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| hunger | I had expected that the big breakages are over now with the next version of (k)ubuntu drawing nearer. | 09:12 |
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| hunger | Hmmm... looks like mephis is considering ubuntu as its base distribution. Maybe that will give some more weight to kubuntu as well. | 09:28 |
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| Tm_T | :) | 10:02 |
| hunger | Any idea which package might have changed the sans-serif font in kde for one that is basically unreadable? | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | no idea | 10:04 |
| hunger | Or what else might have effected the font negatively since wednesday? | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | I have some font issues myself too | 10:05 |
| === hunger has no idea what to file a bugreport on. | ||
| === hunger thinks dapper is going downhill for the last two weeks. | ||
| hunger | I just hope the devs can fix all the issues they have broken till they release. | 10:06 |
| jsgotangco | :/ | 10:06 |
| freeflying | hunger: just wait , it's due to ttf-arphic-uming | 10:06 |
| hunger | freeflying: uming? | 10:06 |
| freeflying | hunger: after today's upgrade ,it will affcet some other fonts | 10:08 |
| freeflying | hunger: we are working on it now | 10:08 |
| freeflying | jsgotangco: hi | 10:08 |
| jsgotangco | freeflying, hi! | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: also may fix xosd problem? | 10:08 |
| hunger | freeflying: What is uming? Or is that part of the fontname? | 10:08 |
| freeflying | jsgotangco: how about korea fonts display | 10:09 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: no | 10:09 |
| jsgotangco | i still haven't updated today | 10:09 |
| freeflying | hunger: is't a chinese font | 10:09 |
| hunger | Tm_T: xosd problem? The one with two windows popping up whenever an osd appears? | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | no, xosd as Xorg osd tools | 10:09 |
| hunger | freeflying: Oh. Why does that break my latin one? | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | osd_cat mainly | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | -f, --font=FONT Use font (default: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--*-*-*-*-c-*-*-* | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | travolta@HeviPoksi:~/temp$ echo laa | osd_cat | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | Error initializing osd: Default font not found | 10:10 |
| hunger | Tm_T: Damn:-( That is another problem that I have no idea of how to report that:-( | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | look, default font of Xorg tool is missing ;( | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | I consider this as major flaw | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | was just ok in breezy | 10:11 |
| hunger | Tm_T: Well, currently I would be happy if I could do basic stuff like startup and shutdown in dapper:-( | 10:11 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 10:11 |
| freeflying | this change just make some latin fonts fuzzy | 10:11 |
| Riddell | hunger: breakages? | 10:11 |
| freeflying | plz have a look ar this post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128080 | 10:12 |
| Riddell | hunger: mepis URL? | 10:12 |
| Tm_T | whops, you woke sleeping bear! | 10:12 |
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| hunger | Riddell: no more sleep, no more shutdown, that kind of stuff. | 10:12 |
| hunger | Riddell: I read about mephis here: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2584380705.html | 10:13 |
| hunger | Riddell: apparently mephis is a debian based kde distro. | 10:14 |
| Riddell | it is indeed | 10:14 |
| Riddell | freeflying: any idea what the fonts problem is, or should I just revert for now? | 10:14 |
| freeflying | Riddell: got it , and working on it now , new patch will soon out | 10:15 |
| Riddell | freeflying: great | 10:16 |
| freeflying | jsgotangco: hi | 10:19 |
| freeflying | jsgotangco: would u mind upgrade your system ,and have a test | 10:19 |
| jsgotangco | mepis is really nice | 10:19 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 10:19 |
| jsgotangco | i'll have to reboot though | 10:19 |
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| hunger | freeflying: I can test. | 10:20 |
| freeflying | jsgotangco: thx ,if you have time :0 | 10:21 |
| hunger | freeflying: If I manage to decypher the hyroglyphs I have on my screen at the moment that is;-) | 10:21 |
| freeflying | hunger: decypher the hyroglyphs ? | 10:22 |
| hunger | freeflying: My fonts are really borked. | 10:22 |
| hunger | freeflying: Actually I switch to console since it is really hard to read stuff in X. | 10:23 |
| freeflying | hunger: it will not broked, just made bold fuzzy . | 10:23 |
| hunger | freeflying: Yeap. I use bold almost everywhere and I looks like i which in turn looks like l now, etc. | 10:24 |
| freeflying | hunger: we will solve that as quickly as we can , and sorry for that | 10:25 |
| hunger | freeflying: Thanks! | 10:25 |
| hunger | freeflying: And please do not get discouraged by my whining. All of you devs are doing great work! | 10:26 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: wanna test one thing? | 10:26 |
| freeflying | hunger: :) | 10:26 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: test for what ? | 10:26 |
| hunger | freeflying: It is just that I do not know what to bugreport on here, so I can not whine in the bugtracker;-) | 10:26 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: osd_cat, if it returns same error there | 10:27 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: to make sure it's not only here | 10:27 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: xosd-bin <- package containing osd_cat | 10:27 |
| Tm_T | and use it: echo foo | osd_cat | 10:28 |
| hunger | osd_cat works for me by the way. | 10:29 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: no error given for me | 10:31 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: ok, utf-8? | 10:35 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: y | 10:35 |
| Tm_T | ok, can you test with other locale? | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | like, LANG=en_GB echo foo | osd_cat | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | (dunno if that changes anything) | 10:36 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: what locale you want test | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | any iso-8859- | 10:37 |
| Tm_T | 1 or 15 mainly | 10:37 |
| Tm_T | don't say I just happen to have missing font | 10:37 |
| Tm_T | that means reinstalling all font packages ;( | 10:38 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: it can display english here , but chinese can't be displayed | 10:40 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: does osd_cat work? | 10:41 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: it works | 10:41 |
| Tm_T | damn! | 10:41 |
| Tm_T | thanks, now I have to find out in what package that font is | 10:41 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: u r welcome :) | 10:42 |
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| MrFaber | hi all | 10:48 |
| MrFaber | I have a question according to the standard kubuntu kde theme. | 10:48 |
| MrFaber | If I install a new theme or change settings and want to set them back to standard everything looks different to the kubuntu standard skin and I have no clue how to set it back without resetting some configuraton files. Isn't it possible to ship kubuntu with a kde theme which can be easyly choosen under system settings? | 10:49 |
| MrFaber | Maybe I miss something which can reset it but I think it would be a good idea too. | 10:49 |
| Riddell | MrFaber: yes, we should ship a .theme file | 10:50 |
| MrFaber | thanks | 10:50 |
| Riddell | although we don't make the theme module easily choosable at the moment | 10:50 |
| Riddell | I'll try and remember to poke tonio about that, he's doing the default settings stuff at the moment | 10:50 |
| MrFaber | many thanks | 10:50 |
| Riddell | of course you can always just rm -r ~/.kde, but that's not always a good idea :) | 10:51 |
| MrFaber | yes, than all my settings are lost :-D | 10:51 |
| MrFaber | I have tried to set all settings back in menu but it looks completly different | 10:51 |
| MrFaber | than changed configuraition files and killed some kde parts | 10:52 |
| MrFaber | So I have to remove it and only recover important parts of my settings | 10:52 |
| MrFaber | like logs and so on | 10:52 |
| MrFaber | but for beginners it isn't that easy :-D | 10:52 |
| MrFaber | BTW does anyone knows why KDE sepparates a app config file from his app directory? | 10:54 |
| MrFaber | .kde/share/apps and .kde/share/config I think it would be easier if everything is in one directory | 10:54 |
| MrFaber | for recovery | 10:54 |
| Riddell | MrFaber: no paticular reason that I know of but I think it makes things easier for us to customise, e.g. we only need one /etc/kde3 directory and one directory for /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/ | 10:55 |
| MrFaber | ok, that makes sense and if you know it it is no big deal | 10:56 |
| MrFaber | ok, thanks and cu all | 10:57 |
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| Tm_T | freeflying: oh joy, 95 packages reinstalling, and I'm almost sure that doesn't fix my problem | 11:03 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: hmm :0 | 11:05 |
| Tm_T | yup, but have to test | 11:07 |
| jeroenvrp | hi folks | 11:12 |
| jeroenvrp | Is it not a good idea to make update-apt a dependency of Adept? | 11:13 |
| jeroenvrp | without that adept-notifier has no function, because it doesnt know about new packages | 11:13 |
| Riddell | adept-notifier does know that there are new packages | 11:14 |
| Riddell | and lets you open adept-updater to download | 11:14 |
| Riddell | although downloading the .debs nightly as an option might not be a bad idea, ready to install when the user wants | 11:15 |
| mornfall | Riddell: currently that's an option with the cronjob, i think | 11:17 |
| mornfall | Riddell: should work transparently with adept-* | 11:17 |
| mornfall | maybe it should be configurable in the GUI though | 11:17 |
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| jeroenvrp | Riddell: thansk for your answer, but when and how does adept-notifier check if there are new packages? | 11:39 |
| jeroenvrp | cause it always stays green at my place | 11:39 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: mornfall will know the details | 11:40 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: ping | 11:40 |
| Riddell | I imagine it's whenever apt-get update is run, which includes the nightly cron run | 11:40 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: let me see | 11:41 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: is that /etc/cron.daily/apt ? | 11:42 |
| Riddell | looks about it | 11:43 |
| jeroenvrp | mmm when I run it standalone it doesn't do anything | 11:43 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: you may have it disabled | 11:47 |
| jeroenvrp | ah wait it must be configured in the apt-config | 11:47 |
| mornfall | i'm almost sure it's on by default though | 11:47 |
| jeroenvrp | hi mornfall | 11:47 |
| mornfall | hi :) | 11:47 |
| jeroenvrp | APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists=1 | 11:48 |
| jeroenvrp | so 1 should be every day | 11:48 |
| JRe | Riddell: there is still the bug in k3bsetup2 | 11:48 |
| Riddell | JRe: yep | 11:48 |
| Riddell | JRe: it's not high priority for me, since k3b works out the box | 11:48 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: did you saw my wishlist item about a quick filte ron package name only? | 11:49 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok :) | 11:49 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: seen, haven't decided what to do about it yet | 11:50 |
| JRe | Riddell: but every user will experience the bug since there is a dialog box showed if cdrdao is not executed as root | 11:50 |
| Tm_T | aye | 11:51 |
| Riddell | JRe: then we'll remove that dialogue box :) | 11:51 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: ok, its the only option keeping me from switching to adept | 11:51 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah but it's very bad to use cdrdao without root privileges ;) | 11:51 |
| jeroenvrp | one other thing Riddell | 11:52 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: if you find a nice non-intrusive way to make it accessible, let me know :) | 11:52 |
| Riddell | JRe: why? it's managed fine so far | 11:52 |
| Riddell | actually it's managed without cdrdao at all | 11:52 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: a checkbox | 11:52 |
| jeroenvrp | with search in packagename only | 11:52 |
| JRe | Riddell: having cdrdao launched as root increase a lot the stability of the burning process because it became top priority over the other processes you have launched | 11:53 |
| jeroenvrp | or something like "package:" before the searcht term | 11:53 |
| jeroenvrp | or onlu p: | 11:53 |
| Riddell | JRe: talk to pitti about it, he's the one who can decide if something is setuid | 11:53 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok | 11:53 |
| jeroenvrp | anyhow in breezy I had a checkbox when running kdesu, for remembering my password for a while - it's not in dapper | 11:54 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: the "APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists=1" - should that be listed when I do a "apt-config dump" ? | 12:06 |
| mornfall | apparently, yes | 12:06 |
| jeroenvrp | it does not | 12:06 |
| Riddell | listed for me | 12:06 |
| jeroenvrp | no entries for APT::Periodic: at al | 12:06 |
| jeroenvrp | let me do a dpkg-reconfigure | 12:07 |
| mornfall | [NOTRASH] morn@lor-k-dapper/k3:~ -> apt-config dump | grep Period | grep Lists | 12:07 |
| mornfall | APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; | 12:07 |
| jeroenvrp | i've updated dapper directly from breezy | 12:08 |
| mornfall | so have i | 12:08 |
| jeroenvrp | no results for dpkg-reconfigure apt | 12:08 |
| mornfall | it was default with breezy too | 12:09 |
| mornfall | and i think i updated that from hoary | 12:09 |
| jeroenvrp | my fist kubuntu install was breezy RC | 12:09 |
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| mornfall | owns, tests summary: exceptions:1 failures:9 warnings:0 ok:136 | 12:15 |
| robotgeek | finally, got airport extreme working on my laptop with dhcp | 12:16 |
| Tm_T | 13:12 < andred> for dapper: deb http://andre.duffeck.de/kopete/dapper / | 12:18 |
| Tm_T | 13:12 < andred> for breezy: deb http://andre.duffeck.de/kopete/breezy / | 12:18 |
| Tm_T | breezy package(s) of Kopete 0.12 alpha available | 12:19 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: no, reinstalling fonts doesn't help ;( | 12:22 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: still on working , you may configure it manually | 12:23 |
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| Tm_T | freeflying: configure what? | 12:24 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: use conf here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8478 replace the content in /etc/fonts/conf.d/ttf-arphic-uming | 12:24 |
| Tm_T | :o | 12:24 |
| andred | hello | 12:25 |
| Riddell | hello andred | 12:25 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: there wasn't that name of file yet | 12:26 |
| Tm_T | travolta@HeviPoksi:~/temp$ echo "laa foo fii foo" | ~/xosd-blue | 12:26 |
| Tm_T | Error initializing osd: Default font not found | 12:26 |
| Tm_T | ;( | 12:26 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: then you have not installed ttf-arphic-uming | 12:26 |
| Tm_T | true, installing | 12:27 |
| Tm_T | you think that might help? | 12:27 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: that's not my fault then :) | 12:27 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 12:27 |
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| Tonio_ | ji all | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | s/ji/hi | 12:29 |
| Tm_T | :) | 12:30 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: ji to you too | 12:30 |
| Tm_T | jow are you? | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | haha | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | fine ;) I have lots of kubuntu stuff today........ let's go ! | 12:30 |
| freeflying | hi Tonio_ | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | hello freeflying | 12:31 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: still same errors ;( | 12:39 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: it can works here with en_US en_GB locale | 12:39 |
| Tm_T | hmh | 12:41 |
| Tm_T | and I don't get osd_cat working in any way | 12:41 |
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| jeroenvrp | mornfall: I've asked two other users and they also have not : APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; in the config | 01:18 |
| mornfall | interesting | 01:19 |
| robotgeek | hah jeroenvrp | 01:19 |
| robotgeek | i can try it on a breezy box too? | 01:20 |
| jeroenvrp | yes please robotgeek | 01:20 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: we also have no apt.conf file | 01:20 |
| jeroenvrp | only the apt.conf.d folder | 01:20 |
| robotgeek | yeah, it it present in breezy | 01:21 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: i'd say that's ok | 01:21 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: so where does it oput its defaults | 01:22 |
| jeroenvrp | robotgeek: in breezy, thats what I thought | 01:22 |
| jeroenvrp | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-01-25 06:25 update-stamp | 01:23 |
| jeroenvrp | jeroen@k-uptown:/var/lib/apt/periodic$ | 01:23 |
| jeroenvrp | the 25th | 01:23 |
| jeroenvrp | ans I've updated to dapper this monday | 01:24 |
| jeroenvrp | or tuesday | 01:24 |
| robotgeek | i have a fresh installl | 01:24 |
| jeroenvrp | robotgeek: I've updated from breezy | 01:24 |
| robotgeek | jeroenvrp: hmm, maybe i should run apt-config again | 01:25 |
| jeroenvrp | robotgeek: what you mean | 01:25 |
| jeroenvrp | apt-config shell ? | 01:25 |
| robotgeek | jeroenvrp: i got confused, with apt-setup | 01:26 |
| jeroenvrp | robotgeek: apt-setup is not on my system | 01:26 |
| robotgeek | jeroenvrp: it's on breezy, not on dapper :) | 01:27 |
| jeroenvrp | aha | 01:27 |
| jeroenvrp | normally it should be in base-config, i've read | 01:27 |
| jeroenvrp | but that is not installed and if I try it want to uninstall a lot of things, incl language packs | 01:28 |
| robotgeek | i think it will install it back, i can try it for you | 01:29 |
| robotgeek | apparently not | 01:29 |
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| jeroenvrp | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 01:30 |
| jeroenvrp | belocs-locales-bin j2re1.4 j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin kde-i18n-nl language-pack-en | 01:30 |
| jeroenvrp | language-pack-en-base language-pack-gnome-nl language-pack-gnome-nl-base language-pack-kde-en | 01:30 |
| jeroenvrp | language-pack-kde-en-base language-pack-kde-nl language-pack-kde-nl-base language-pack-nl | 01:30 |
| jeroenvrp | language-pack-nl-base locales ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal | 01:30 |
| jeroenvrp | oeps | 01:30 |
| jeroenvrp | sorry | 01:30 |
| jeroenvrp | and java | 01:31 |
| robotgeek | jeroenvrp: yes, i found that out :). i don't have the rest of the stuff installed | 01:31 |
| jeroenvrp | this is a ubunti thing , lets ask there | 01:32 |
| robotgeek | jeroenvrp: i'm going to bed, later :) | 01:34 |
| jeroenvrp | good night or whatever time of the day | 01:35 |
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| jeroenvrp | mornfall: I've put the Update-Package-Lists "1"; in a new /etc/apt/apt.conf and now /wtc/cron.daily/apt works great | 02:22 |
| jeroenvrp | just to let you know | 02:22 |
| mornfall | :-) | 02:22 |
| jeroenvrp | so still strange that the apt defaults are not generated | 02:22 |
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| bert_ | anyone got KLik to work in KDE 3.5.1? | 03:15 |
| hunger | bert_ Whatfor? We got apt. | 03:16 |
| bert_ | Klik runs a program without installing it, doesn't put any thing on the hard drive, good for checking out programs before they are installed. | 03:18 |
| hunger | bert_: Yes, I know. | 03:18 |
| hunger | bert_: I just do not like the idea of my users installing stuff. | 03:19 |
| hunger | yes, they aren ot really installing anything, but they mess up the loop devices and run software of dubious origins. | 03:20 |
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| bert_ | The programs are maintained on the Klik site | 03:21 |
| hunger | bert_: Sorry, I just do not like the idea of users running apps downloaded from somewhere. And I do not like the hack klick uses to bring about the easy of use it has. | 03:22 |
| hunger | bert_: But that is just by personal oppinion.... I have not heared of anybody using this in kubuntu. | 03:23 |
| hunger | Did you try running it? | 03:24 |
| hunger | What was the error you had? Maybe I can help getting it set up? | 03:24 |
| bert_ | Yes, but it doesn't run the program I tries to load | 03:25 |
| hunger | bert_: Did you try running it in a terminal? Maybe you get more informatinons about what goes wrong there. | 03:25 |
| hunger | bert_: Are there other users on your system? | 03:27 |
| bert_ | No only me | 03:27 |
| bert_ | Its a home computer | 03:28 |
| hunger | bert_: Good, then nobody else is using your loopback devices:-) | 03:28 |
| bert_ | On the Klik site they mention 'is your kernel cramfs enabled? | 03:29 |
| hunger | bert_: You are not using all loopdevs yourself, are you? (i.e. by running other klick apps). | 03:29 |
| bert_ | No | 03:30 |
| bert_ | They say to use to check zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CRAM | 03:30 |
| bert_ | Should return: CONFIG_CRAMFS=m | 03:31 |
| bert_ | or CONFIG_CRAMFS=y | 03:31 |
| bert_ | mine doesn't | 03:32 |
| hunger | bert_: Then you do not have the filesystem used in the klik image:-( | 03:33 |
| hunger | bert_: You are not using a ubuntu-kernel/ | 03:34 |
| hunger | bert_: those have no /proc/config.gz:-) | 03:34 |
| hunger | bert_: Get a ubuntu kernel. That has cramfs built in. (see /boot/config-kernelversion) | 03:35 |
| bert_ | Installed Kubuntu 5.10 fron CD I downloaded, then updated KDE to 3.5, then to 3.5.1 over the internet | 03:36 |
| hunger | bert_: I am running dapper. That kenel definitly has cramfs. (cat boot/config-YOURKERNEL | grep CRAM ) | 03:37 |
| hunger | Make that /boot/config-YOURKERNEL | 03:38 |
| bert_ | Thanks, Hunger for your help, I will leave Klik for the time being, thought it might be interesting, got to go to bed now, bye. | 03:45 |
| hunger | bert_: You are welcome. | 03:46 |
| raphink | yop Tonio_ | 04:35 |
| raphink | Riddell: kde 3.5.1 is supposed to be a bug fix right? | 04:53 |
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| raphink | Riddell: honnestly, we don't want to release such a horrible version of KDE in Dapper | 05:05 |
| raphink | Riddell: there are more bugs in 3.5.1 than in 3.5 | 05:05 |
| sebas | raphink: Which? | 05:06 |
| sebas | And it's not only about numbers, but also about severity. | 05:06 |
| raphink | sebas: severe bugs, or quite | 05:06 |
| raphink | sebas: kmail is not integrated in kdepim | 05:06 |
| sebas | 3.5.1 runs fine here, actually. | 05:06 |
| raphink | kxkb doesn't let select layouts anymore | 05:07 |
| sebas | Less crashes than 3.5.0 anyway. | 05:07 |
| raphink | ok a few tests sebas | 05:07 |
| raphink | sebas: drag a file on your desktop and look at the mouse | 05:07 |
| raphink | this is not a severe bug, yet I don't think it was in 3.5 | 05:07 |
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| raphink | sebas: the mouse becomes black | 05:08 |
| sebas | Nothing strange, what do you get? | 05:08 |
| raphink | a black cursor instead of the hand | 05:08 |
| sebas | No, hand, from the theme I chose. | 05:08 |
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| raphink | ok | 05:08 |
| raphink | sebas: 3.5.1 on dapper or breezy? | 05:08 |
| sebas | Which theme do you use? | 05:08 |
| sebas | Dapper here. | 05:08 |
| raphink | ok good | 05:08 |
| raphink | i'll check with dapper then | 05:09 |
| raphink | ;) | 05:09 |
| raphink | in breezy it's all buggy | 05:09 |
| raphink | terrible | 05:09 |
| sebas | I've breezy here aswell, but didn't notice such thing. | 05:09 |
| sebas | I'd need to reboot, though I'd rather not :> | 05:09 |
| raphink | ok let's try something else | 05:09 |
| freeflying | raphink: kde3.5.1 works better than 3.5.0 in dapper | 05:09 |
| raphink | sebas: open the keyboard selector in kcontrol | 05:09 |
| raphink | do you hve the list of available layouts? | 05:10 |
| sebas | Nope. empty. | 05:10 |
| sebas | That | 05:10 |
| raphink | yep, I consider that a major bug | 05:10 |
| sebas | 's quite serious, though. | 05:10 |
| raphink | then | 05:11 |
| raphink | another one | 05:11 |
| raphink | open kontact | 05:11 |
| raphink | create a new email | 05:11 |
| sebas | It's open :) | 05:11 |
| raphink | enter an adress in the recipient field | 05:11 |
| raphink | then, without closing the message, go to the kaddressbook section in kontact | 05:11 |
| raphink | then quit | 05:11 |
| raphink | and you'll lose all your contacts | 05:11 |
| raphink | you just lose your contact list in .kde | 05:11 |
| raphink | major, too | 05:12 |
| sebas | Eeh, you don't want to screw me, right? :P | 05:12 |
| sebas | Don't make me loose data while testing, at least *warn* me before... | 05:12 |
| raphink | another funny one: kmail doen't work with kdepim anymore | 05:12 |
| sebas | How do you mean? | 05:13 |
| raphink | you can't use filters to select contacts in an email | 05:13 |
| raphink | and stuff like that | 05:13 |
| raphink | you can only choose from the contacts kmail remember | 05:13 |
| raphink | but have no access to your kaddressbook ones | 05:13 |
| sebas | Are those reported upstream, btw? | 05:13 |
| raphink | this one is | 05:13 |
| raphink | I did report it | 05:13 |
| raphink | the one that deletes the address book I reported in 3.5 | 05:13 |
| raphink | quite a long time ago | 05:13 |
| raphink | it's not fixed,although it's major | 05:14 |
| raphink | the kxkb one was added in 3.5.1 | 05:14 |
| raphink | for such a small app as kxkb, there is a 34kb diff in the source | 05:14 |
| raphink | between 3.5 and 3.5.1 | 05:14 |
| raphink | I don't call that a bug fixing release | 05:14 |
| raphink | there are whole new functions added | 05:14 |
| raphink | things recoded | 05:15 |
| raphink | I've got a hard time thinking kde 3.5.1 could be the default one in dapper | 05:15 |
| raphink | with such big issues around | 05:15 |
| sebas | Well, there's always local patches. ... | 05:15 |
| sebas | KDE 3.5.0 has serious issues aswell. | 05:16 |
| raphink | yes sebas | 05:16 |
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| raphink | but I think I don't understand what the KDE team means by bug fixing | 05:16 |
| raphink | also, I report quite a lot to the KDE bts but it's such a mess that I get tired of it | 05:16 |
| sebas | You should raise that on kde-core-devel then. | 05:16 |
| raphink | does the KDE team really want to do a bug fixing release some time? | 05:17 |
| raphink | it doesn't seem so | 05:17 |
| raphink | I don't like gnome much, but at least when they say they fix things, they do | 05:17 |
| sebas | Eeh, really, I'm not the one who can help you there. | 05:17 |
| raphink | yes I know sebas | 05:17 |
| raphink | just expressing my deception | 05:17 |
| sebas | Nah, GNOME has *nothing* to do with it, and with that kind of argumentation, you'll get nowhere. | 05:18 |
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| sebas | Well, get an svn account, fix things, that's the way to go. | 05:18 |
| raphink | KDE needs to focus on bug fixing in kde 3.5 that's my point | 05:18 |
| raphink | 3.5 is released, and 4 is the new dev version | 05:18 |
| raphink | I'm not a c++ dev | 05:18 |
| raphink | :( | 05:19 |
| sebas | And don't forget ... about half of the problems you have are fixed in dapper, so it's not all that bad. | 05:19 |
| raphink | hmm | 05:19 |
| sebas | I can reproduce one yet, and didn't try one of your issues since I don't want possible dataloss. | 05:20 |
| sebas | Then get someone to fix it for you, that's the way it goes. | 05:20 |
| sebas | Complaining doesn't help as long as people don't have time. | 05:20 |
| sebas | It's not like someone is obliged to fix it for you. | 05:21 |
| raphink | yes I knwo sebas, I'm the first one to say that to people who complain and do nothing | 05:21 |
| sebas | Ok, are those problems still there in current svn then? | 05:21 |
| raphink | I shall install current svn to check I guess | 05:22 |
| sebas | You can hardly complain about a version that is a) not officially supported, b) when you didn't check if it's changed. | 05:22 |
| sebas | code freeze for 3.5.1 was about a month ago... | 05:22 |
| raphink | mhm | 05:22 |
| raphink | yes I know | 05:22 |
| sebas | Maybe stuff is fixed, then you can search the svnlog and propose to include some patch in dapper. | 05:23 |
| raphink | I'll check for diff in the svn | 05:23 |
| sebas | Ok :) | 05:23 |
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| raphink | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 05:25 |
| raphink | sebas: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/ | 05:25 |
| raphink | can you find kxkb there? | 05:25 |
| raphink | I can't :s | 05:25 |
| raphink | but it's there http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/?rev=454225 | 05:25 |
| raphink | :s | 05:25 |
| raphink | I don't get it :s | 05:25 |
| Riddell | the xkb stuff just needs a directory changed | 05:25 |
| Riddell | you can add a symlink | 05:25 |
| sebas | http://www.google.com/search?q=xkb+site%3Awebsvn.kde.org&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 | 05:26 |
| raphink | Riddell: how do you mean? | 05:27 |
| raphink | Riddell: you mean the bug? | 05:27 |
| Riddell | yes | 05:27 |
| raphink | I don't understand | 05:27 |
| raphink | what has to be changed ? | 05:27 |
| Riddell | add a symlink somewhere, search the forums for what it is | 05:28 |
| Riddell | i'll look at a proper fix when I have some time (but espresso is my priority just now) | 05:29 |
| raphink | what forums do you mean? | 05:29 |
| Riddell | kubuntuforums | 05:29 |
| raphink | sorry for the stupid questions Riddell but I'm willing to help and I don't really understnad so | 05:29 |
| Riddell | the xkb directory has moves from somewhere in /usr to somewhere in /etc | 05:29 |
| Riddell | patches welcome of course :) | 05:30 |
| raphink | of course | 05:30 |
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| raphink | which is why i'm trying to understand | 05:30 |
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| raphink | sebas: do you confirm that this kxkb bug is also in dapper? | 05:41 |
| sebas | raphink: Yeah, but as JR said, it's easy to fix. So I don't really see why this should be a reason to not have 3.5.1 in Dapper. | 05:42 |
| sebas | It'll be fixed before release anyway. | 05:42 |
| raphink | sure | 05:43 |
| raphink | if you confirm it in dapper, | 05:43 |
| raphink | then I'll release a bug fix for dapper | 05:43 |
| raphink | taht's why I was asking ;) | 05:43 |
| sebas | You'll release a bug fix for dapper? What does that mean? | 05:47 |
| raphink | well that I'll file the bug on malone, then attach a debdiff to it so Riddell can fix it ;) | 05:47 |
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| raphink | sebas: what did you think it meant? | 05:50 |
| sebas | I didn't get you, that's why I asked. | 05:50 |
| raphink | ok | 05:50 |
| raphink | now you did? | 05:50 |
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| raphink | let's see if it works :) | 06:00 |
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| raphink | Riddell: did you notice the series of | 07:36 |
| raphink | Building kcontrol/kcmfontinst HTML docs... | 07:36 |
| raphink | meinproc: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program | 07:36 |
| raphink | errors | 07:36 |
| raphink | when building kdebase ? | 07:37 |
| raphink | it does it for all HTML docs | 07:37 |
| raphink | my fix doesn't work :- | 07:46 |
| raphink | :( | 07:47 |
| raphink | yeah :) :) :) | 07:52 |
| raphink | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/31165 :) | 07:56 |
| raphink | fixed :) | 07:56 |
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| nlindblad | anyone who has experience of VIA intergrated VGA? | 09:40 |
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| mornfall | \o/ polish for commitprogress ++ | 10:21 |
| mornfall | with http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-manager-2.png and without http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-manager-3.png konsole | 10:24 |
| mornfall | (the % indicator is somewhat borked --> fixing) | 10:24 |
| mornfall | \o/ unfucked | 10:33 |
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| kkathman | Riddell: a suggestion - I wonder if we could include another package in Dapper - taskjuggler. This is a project management application for KDE. We currently seem to have something for ubuntu but not anything worthwhile for Kubuntu? | 10:38 |
| Riddell | kkathman: it's in universe, what's the equivalent in ubuntu? | 10:51 |
| kkathman | Riddell: hmm...I did an !info on it through ubotu and it didnt find it (maybe not in breezy then) | 10:52 |
| Riddell | no, I've a feeling it's only recently been packaged | 10:53 |
| Riddell | there's also kplato now (in koffice archives) | 10:53 |
| kkathman | Riddell: planner is the package in ubuntu | 10:54 |
| Riddell | part of gnome-office, so in main | 10:54 |
| kkathman | Riddell: its mentioned in the ubuntu desktop guide | 10:54 |
| Riddell | kplato will go into main when koffice 1.5 is uploaded (probably after dapper) | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | re | 10:55 |
| kkathman | Riddell: when I was writing the Kubuntu desktop guide - I was looking for an alternative, so I did a search and found only a package called Kfocus, which is a very old package and not what we want | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have a little question concerning koffice.... do you compile it with msoffice compatibility enabled ? | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | s/compile/package | 10:56 |
| kkathman | However, since I also have a SuSE implementation in my network, I found that they had this "taskjuggler" which is a bit more robust | 10:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: the ms filters should all be there yes | 10:56 |
| kkathman | so glad to know it will be in Dapper | 10:56 |
| kkathman | I should amend that in the Kubuntu guide | 10:56 |
| Riddell | ah well taskjuggler is written by the former head of suse's something devision so they will include it :) | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay nice , I may test the latest at work on monday then :) | 10:56 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: you may wait cause there is another fix I try to build | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | there is a little bug on the desktop | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | try to click and move a file on it... | 10:57 |
| Riddell | mornfall: hidden by default looks good | 10:57 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: works forme | 10:58 |
| Riddell | for me | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | the cursor is coming back to the X default one no ? | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | raphink and I have that on breezy + kde 3.5.1 | 10:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: not on dapper I don't | 10:58 |
| Riddell | Human theme hand cursor | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah okay..... | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | I don't have the hand juste while moving the file..... sounds strange ;) | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | but cool, no patch to do then | 10:59 |
| Riddell | raphink: I think adding that directory rather than replacing the existing one would be better, then the change could go upstream | 11:03 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: working on bluez-utils acutally, but I have a doubt on the method you prefer to correct this.... | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | actually there is an hcid.conf file in the sources copied directly in /etc/bluetooth | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | that contains the pin_helper setting | 11:15 |
| Tonio_ | you told me that you were not fan of postinst scripts, so how would you change that knowing that the file is parsed via the hcid daemon directly ? | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | hacking the c source directly via a patch or something ? | 11:16 |
| allee | Tonio_: patch hcid.conf in the source | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | allee: hi ;) | 11:17 |
| allee | Tonio_: hi :) | 11:17 |
| allee | Tonio_: typing bluetooth, rings a bell here ;) | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | allee: but it is a static file..... what can I had inside except a path ? I can't put a variable or something..... | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | allee: lol | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that I don't see another mecanism except a postinst script for that....... | 11:19 |
| allee | Tonio_: oh. Please bring me up to date. You don't plan to set a 'pin_helper = /path/to/wrapper' ? | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | allee: yes | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | it is set to bluez-pin by default, which cannot be installed on kubuntu for gnome depandancies reasons | 11:20 |
| allee | Tonio_: What instead? changing a conffile is a policy violation | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | kdebluetooth adds its own kbluepin | 11:20 |
| allee | I know | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | so the idea is to change the pin_helper value in some way when we are on kubuntu to set it to kbluepin value | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | my idea was to use a postinst script that would check KDE_FULL_SESSION and depending the variable exists or not, making a sed on the config file | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | and I don't see another simple/efficient process except patching the full hcid daemon.... | 11:22 |
| allee | sed a config file -> policy violation | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I know | 11:24 |
| Tonio_ | but I don't find another way.... | 11:24 |
| allee | Tonio_: that a hack. Get a wrapper script in bluez pkg. If hcid.conf is not changed it will be updated, .. | 11:24 |
| Tonio_ | except complex patch on hcid.c | 11:24 |
| allee | if not user will be prompted in a compliant manner | 11:25 |
| allee | Tonio_: before using a complex hcid hack, hack kbluepin to listen for dbus msgs. | 11:26 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I'm not able to do that ;) I'm not a developper, and I don't know C anyway | 11:27 |
| allee | btw. kbluepin relies on :0 | 11:27 |
| allee | so kbluepin is a hack too ;) | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | allee: impossible for me.... | 11:27 |
| allee | Me too :) | 11:28 |
| allee | Well with a bit of time, I get it, but I will not find this time :( | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | but I must say I don't understant the reason a config file doesn't have to be modified by a postinst script......... | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | config files are done to be configured for our needs..... sounds ununderstandable for me | 11:29 |
| allee | Tonio_: E.g. I would be pissed because I have my own setup | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 11:29 |
| allee | Tonio_: what's wrong, or what will go wrong, with the wrapper approach? | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | allee: no I understand | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | I perfectly understand the purpose | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | but well as long as kdebluetooth is installed with kubuntu | 11:30 |
| allee | if [ -x /usr/bin/bluepin ] then; blueping; else kblueping; fi | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | it would be confusing for the user in some way to get prompted to set the value for their pinhelper when only ONE value is possible | 11:31 |
| allee | ^^ this script will call kbluepin on kubuntu and bluepin in ubuntu (defaults assumed) | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I have already that, but where to put it on ? | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is in fact I don't see where can this script be called :) | 11:32 |
| allee | hcid.conf pin_helper '/path/to/wrapper' | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | we have a daemon calling a .conf file....... | 11:32 |
| allee | [23:16] <allee> Tonio_: patch hcid.conf in the source | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | I can't put bash code in .conf (or you have to teach me how lol) | 11:32 |
| allee | echo 'if [ -x /usr/bin/bluepin ] then; blueping; else kblueping; fi' > /etc/bluetooth/pinwrapper; chmod 755 ... | 11:33 |
| allee | add make hcid.conf in bluez pkg accordingly | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | allee: here is the point I don't understand, the package is build on a machine where kde is not installed | 11:35 |
| allee | ah, "$@" needs to be added to pass the in/out and btaddr | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | so kbluepin will not be present, and the package cannot be "ready for kubuntu" | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | or I miss something | 11:35 |
| allee | yes, with pin_helper set to /etc/bluetooth/pinwrapper | 11:35 |
| allee | Tonio_: It's enough that the wrapperscript is in bluez pkg | 11:35 |
| allee | Tonio_: later at runtime this script picks kbluepin in kubuntu and bluepin in ubutntu | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | allee: the problem is that I perfectly understand that :) | 11:37 |
| allee | Tonio_: still confused? | 11:37 |
| Tonio_ | my problem is "how and where to call the wrapper script ???" | 11:37 |
| Tonio_ | I have the xrapper script | 11:38 |
| allee | Tonio_: hcid will call the script when it need a pin | 11:38 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: so I need to hack hcid, that's exactly what I was sayin ;) | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | I can't do that, I don't have the knowledge to..... | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | I understand the mecanism, but I'm unable to do that by myself.... | 11:39 |
| allee | Tonio_: you just need to patch hcid.conf via debian/patches/kubuntu_XY_wrapper>_as_pinhelper.diff, not hcid sources | 11:39 |
| === allee always assumed that patching the bluez sources is okay | ||
| Tonio_ | allee: the wrapper will be applied during the package building right ? | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | hum there is something that I don't understand.... makes me crazzy | 11:41 |
| allee | Tonio_: during build: only the patch of the wrapper is written/patched into hcid.conf, and the script itself is added to the pkg | 11:41 |
| raphink | Riddell: feel free to modify the patch if you think adding the directory is better than changing it ;) hehe | 11:43 |
| allee | Tonio_: a) download bluez-utils sources, b) search & patch hcid.conf to contain the wrapper c) dh_install pinwrapper /etc/bluetooth d) debuild; sudo debi | 11:43 |
| allee | debian/bluez-utils/etc/bluetooth that is | 11:44 |
| raphink | Riddell: I'm not so good with c++ (never learned) and I didn't know whether this array was used with fixed references (element 0 being used to grep the list of layouts) or entirely | 11:44 |
| raphink | Riddell: however I'm happy to learn it would work by adding the /etc/X11/ dir to the arry instead of replacing the /usr/share/X11 one | 11:45 |
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| raphink | oops kubuntu.org doesn't work | 11:55 |
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