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nexustar.bz212:02
NeoChaosXokay, you have to extract the file's contents12:02
UFOTar is packed to smaller size and deb package managing system so you know what you have on your system12:02
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NeoChaosXthen open up a terminal and go to the directory that gets created when you extracted the files12:03
nexusyup12:05
UFOType:  Theme-Manager Theme12:05
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NeoChaosXnexus: now in ther terminal, enter "./configure --prefix=/usr" (without the quotes, of course)12:06
UFOprobably you need to install theme-manager, dont know?12:06
ubuntuhi all12:06
NeoChaosXUFO: he already has it installed, he needs to compile the theme12:06
jeroenvrphi folks12:06
ubuntukubuntu is pretty cool12:06
jeroenvrpdoes anyone anything about dapper's new adept-notifier?12:06
NeoChaosXnexus: when ./configure is done, then type "make". when that is done, type "sudo make install"12:06
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nexushold on im confuzed, ok i am in the directory with the .kth theme file12:08
NeoChaosXokay12:09
NeoChaosXyou have a terminal opened in that directory, right?12:09
Sh4d0xis it true that kubuntu crash chances are higher then ubuntu ones?12:09
nexusyup12:09
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NeoChaosXyou did "./configure --prefix=/usr", correct?12:10
NeoChaosXwas there an error?12:10
nexusno just ./configure12:10
Sh4d0xthen i guess i stay with breezy12:10
NeoChaosXnexus: you want the "--prefix=/usr" after configure, otherwise it won't install properly12:11
Sh4d0xuntill dapper is released =D12:11
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nexusstill get the same error, Bash: ./configure: no such file or directory12:11
as_284does anyone know a GUI software like FDISK?12:11
NeoChaosXSh4d0x: chances of crashing in Kubuntu and Ubuntu are about the same, there's really no difference12:11
NeoChaosXnexus: what theme did you download?12:12
Hobbseeas_284: gparted12:12
nexusbeauty of darkness12:12
NeoChaosXokay, lemme see12:12
UFOHobbsee, it can do serius damage for system12:12
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Sh4d0xNeoChaosX: no difference?? oh yes my dear, kubuntu is kde ;) (not that it makes that much difference) and kubuntu is muuuuch more graphicly than ubuntu12:13
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UFOIf you dont know what you are doing12:13
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nexushttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3224112:13
as_284Hobbsee: thanks12:13
NeoChaosXthanks, nexus, lemme look at it12:13
HobbseeUFO: indeed, so can fdisk12:13
as_284another Q, do you know where is the folder of the mailbox files?12:13
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NeoChaosXmailbox? you mean the Unix mailbox?12:14
UFOnexus, do you have installed KDE 3.5.x12:14
nexusi think so, i downloaded the latest ISO for Kubuntu12:14
Red_Herringno12:14
Red_Herringthat doesnt have kde3.512:14
nexusbut im pretty sure its KDE 3.5.x12:14
Red_Herringthat still has kde3.4.312:14
Red_Herringwell12:14
Red_Herringlets check12:14
Red_Herringalt-space12:15
NeoChaosXoh, then i got it wrong12:15
Red_Herringhit alt-space12:15
NeoChaosXnexus: forget what I've been saying12:15
nexusok12:15
Red_Herringwhat happens?12:15
NeoChaosXjust run the command kcontrol12:15
Red_Herringif ya get a nice black box in teh middle of the screen with a kde logo12:15
Red_Herringits kde3.4.312:16
Red_Herringif it has a nice slingshot12:16
Red_Herringits 3.512:16
nexusyup, now what?12:16
NeoChaosXnexus: the control center should pop up. in the left panel, click on Appearance & Themes and then Theme Manager12:16
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Sh4d0xcan someone tell me if there exists a shipit for kubuntu?12:16
NeoChaosXthen just click "Install New Theme" and browse to the tar.bz2 file12:16
nexusahhh, found it, cheers again12:16
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Red_HerringSh4d0x: ya12:16
nexuslol all that n it was that simple :P12:16
Red_Herring!shipit12:16
ubotuwell, shipit is For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/12:16
NeoChaosXSh4d0x: there will be one for Kubuntu Dapper12:17
Red_Herringnice12:17
UFOhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php12:17
Sh4d0xthnx12:17
NeoChaosXsince there's going to be a LiveCD installer for Kubuntu12:17
Red_Herring!kde3.5.112:17
ubotuRed_Herring: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:17
Red_Herring!kde35112:17
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring12:17
Red_Herring!kde3.512:17
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".12:17
Sh4d0xi just orderd 15 ubuntu cd's, received them yesterday, but yet i saw kubuntu looks better =D it's time to order again12:17
Red_HerringSh4d0x: noooooooo12:17
Red_Herringthats wasteful12:18
NeoChaosXSh4d0x: they don't ship Kubuntu CDs, yet12:18
Red_Herringyou realize that you can install kubuntu from ubuntu?12:18
Sh4d0x:o12:18
Red_Herringit is 100% kubuntu12:18
NeoChaosXsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:18
Red_Herringjust by installing "kubuntu-desktop"12:18
Red_Herringya12:18
Red_Herringthats what i do12:18
jayhi12:18
NeoChaosXinstalls all the necessary kubuntu files12:18
Red_Herringi never have installed kubuntu by itself12:18
Sh4d0xnice to know =D12:18
jaycan someone help me with a fresh kubuntu install on a laptop?12:18
Sh4d0xi'm now on live cd12:18
Red_Herringthat'll save ya some time12:18
Red_Herringjay: what about it?12:19
Sh4d0xgot breezy installed (dual boot)12:19
Red_Herringi have kubuntu on my desktop12:19
Red_Herringand laptop12:19
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NeoChaosXSh4d0x: then boot into breezy and install kubuntu-desktop12:19
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Red_Herringcan anyone help me with CVS?12:19
Red_Herring!e1712:19
jayRed_Herring: i installed breezy on this laptop, went fine.  but when it boots up, it never loads any gui12:19
Red_Herringah yes12:19
reagleBRKLNanyone get sound working with vmware? (playing around)12:19
Red_Herringcan you get the command line?12:19
reagleBRKLNurd:/e> artsdsp -v vmware12:20
reagleBRKLNartsdsp works only for binaries12:20
jayRed_Herring: it stops at the checking battery line...12:20
Sh4d0xNeoChaosX, i'll keep that in mind12:20
Red_Herringjay: type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:20
jayRed_Herring: i'm a newbie so i don't know how to do that.  coudl you walk me through it?12:20
Red_Herringthats not really stalling12:20
Red_Herringok12:20
Red_Herringwhen it stalls12:20
Red_Herringhit ctrl-alt-f112:20
Red_Herringlog in12:20
Red_Herringthen type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:21
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jayRed_Herring: k, let me try.  i'll keep you updated.  thanks for all your help12:21
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Red_Herringwell12:22
Red_Herringlemme know how it goes12:22
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NRG88uups12:22
Red_Herringanyone know CVS?12:22
Red_Herringi wanna install e17 using cvs12:22
jayRed_Herring: i did a bit of research on this.  does this have to do with the new ATi driver, or the fact that my laptop is a widescreen?12:22
UFOI do12:23
Red_Herringbut it complains "disk full"12:23
Red_Herringwhich it isnt AT ALL12:23
Red_Herringjay: ati12:23
Red_Herringthey suck12:23
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Red_Herringyou are gonna hafta do a bit of extra work12:23
Red_Herringbut its not too bad12:23
Red_Herring!ati12:23
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:23
Red_Herringdont do that yet12:23
UFONo they dont i got my ati x700 mobile working great on 64bit12:23
Red_Herringbut thats what you are gonna need ta do when you get it working12:23
Red_HerringUFO: try getting video overlay with a tv tuner12:24
Red_Herringand then try playing opengl games12:24
jayRed_Herring: ok, so i'm at the "Configuring xserver-xorg" screen12:24
Red_Herringlike doom 3 and quake 412:24
Red_Herringthen you will realize nvidia is god12:24
Red_Herringok good12:24
jayRed_Herring: shold i let it auto detect the video hardware?12:24
Red_Herringya12:24
UFOOn laptop?12:24
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Red_Herringyou can always do it again if it doesnt work12:25
Red_HerringUFO: on anything12:25
Red_Herringlike AMD ;-)12:25
jayRed_Herring: should i "use kernel framebuffer device interface?"  i used the default for everything else12:25
Red_Herringno12:26
Red_Herringhtats what is bad about ati12:26
Red_Herringit sucks at that12:26
jayRed_Herring: which X.org server modules should be loaded by default?12:27
Red_Herringwell12:27
Red_Herringi would do all that are already selected12:28
Red_Herringnot mess with that12:28
jayRed_Herring: so go with the default?12:28
Red_Herringya12:28
Red_Herringif that doesnt work12:28
Red_Herringyou can change it12:28
Red_Herringas many times as you like12:28
jayRed_Herring: "Write default Files section to configuration file?"12:28
Red_Herringya12:29
UFOhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423584#post42358412:29
jayRed_Herring: "Write default DRI section to config file"?12:29
UFOthis works great with ati12:29
Red_Herringhmmm12:29
Red_Herringi would try "no"12:29
Red_Herringbecause that may be the problem12:29
UFOyes write it12:30
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Red_HerringUFO: well...12:30
Red_Herringthat was the problem when i tried it on a MAC12:30
Red_Herringand IT had an ATI card12:30
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jayRed_Herring: ok, done.  do i just reboot now?12:31
Red_Herringwell12:31
Red_Herringsure12:31
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Red_Herringif ya dont mind waiting12:31
Red_Herringif you are impatient12:31
Red_Herringjust type in startx12:31
nexuscheers all, bye12:31
UFOjay do you have 64bit prosessor?12:32
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jayRed_Herring: ok i got an error saying "XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining."12:33
Red_Herringok12:33
jayUFO: no, it's a celeron M laptop12:33
Red_Herringcan you copy and paste any of this?12:33
UFOand if you are using widescreen on laptop you should get the package from ati and do the deb packages with the binary12:33
Red_Herringcan you type in anything that looks important12:33
jaywhat am i looking for?12:34
Red_Herringsomething mentioning drivers, ati, dri?12:34
UFOwhich ati gpu its in it12:34
Red_Herringbecause that error says that something didnt work right12:34
jayit's Xpress 200m IGP12:34
Red_Herring:-(12:35
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Red_Herringwell12:35
Red_Herringi had an x200se12:35
Red_Herringand it was ok12:35
UFOok, do you have widescreen on the laptop12:35
jaySkipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.0": No symbols found (EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI"12:36
jayUFO: yes, widescreen12:36
jayit has other "No symbols found" do you need those too?12:36
benkong2how can I get my sound to not be muted each time I login to ubuntu? It works I just have to reset the slider each time after boot to get sound.12:36
Red_Herringwell12:36
UFOOk... the ati package whic is on repsitorys does not support widescreen resolution... and you should look the link12:37
Red_Herringif there are no symbols, no12:37
Red_Herringi think it is DRI12:37
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Red_Herringtry running that dpkg-reconfigure12:37
Red_Herringusing all of the same things as before12:37
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Red_Herringcept now DONT write DRI config stuff12:37
EightiesKhey all12:37
EightiesK!deb12:37
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb12:38
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UFOi had 5 hours fight today with ati and this was only solution to my problem12:38
UFOhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423584#post42358412:39
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Red_HerringATI == bad12:39
jayRed_Herring: i tried it 2x. one with DRI enabled and one disabled. same result12:41
UFO3050 frames in 5.0 seconds = 610.000 FPS12:41
EightiesKI hate the new kde12:41
EightiesK:-(12:41
Red_HerringJay:hmm12:41
UFOWhy12:41
heanolUFO: how do you get that benchmark12:41
heanol?12:41
heanoli tried running glxgears but it doesnt print anything anymore12:42
Red_Herringi would suggest pastebin12:42
brexelglxgears12:42
Red_Herringbut since its on a laptop w/o internet or a gui12:42
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UFOfgl_glxgears12:42
Red_Herringthat would be a huge oain in the ass12:42
Red_Herring*pain12:42
jayso....12:42
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Red_Herringwell12:42
UFOlook with fglrxinfo if you do have the 3d acceleration on12:43
Red_Herringwhen i have had this problem before12:43
Red_Herringand usually i just look at that output after xserver dies12:43
Red_Herringand the answer is pretty clear12:43
jayare there any other critical settings?12:43
Red_Herringbut with this...12:43
UFOif you have mesa or something... you dont12:43
Red_Herringya12:43
Red_Herringthose drivers12:44
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Red_Herringdisable...12:44
Red_Herringthe one with "gl" in it12:44
jayRed_Herring: GLcore and glx?12:45
Red_Herringya12:45
jayRed_Herring:12:45
Red_Herringthose will crash it12:45
jayk12:45
jayRed_Herring:  still write DRI or not?12:45
Red_Herringno12:45
Red_Herringthat last output said clearly that it hates DRI12:45
UFOjay, have you installed the package from ati?12:46
Red_Herringand its not to worry if you get the official ATI Drivers12:46
jayno, i haven't, this is a fresh install12:46
Red_HerringJay:do you mind getting the official ati drivers?12:46
UFOTrust me you dont get working until you got your monitor rigt12:46
Red_Herringits kinda tough from the CLI12:46
UFOright12:46
jayno, i don't mind...12:46
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Red_Herringbut it might be the only way12:46
jayumm, can't do it right now though...12:46
Red_Herring!ati12:46
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358912:46
Red_Herring!seveas12:46
jayi gotta run actually12:46
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:46
Red_HerringJay: the ati drivers are in the seveas packages12:47
jayi'll come back in here another time and hopefully someone can help me with it12:47
Red_Herringcheck it out when you can12:47
jayget them from the link UFO sent me?12:47
Red_HerringJay:you choose12:48
jayok thanks12:48
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__mikemWhere do I get an mp3 decoder12:49
UFOlame12:49
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jayactually, nvm, change of plans12:49
lampshadeHow stable is kubuntu?  Very stable or is it still kinda the new kid on the block compared to Ubuntu?12:50
jayRed_Herring: where should i download them to if i'm going to be doing it through windows on the same laptop?12:50
brexellampshade: it is the same distro12:50
lampshadebrexel:  Yeah but that really means nothing to me12:50
crimsun!tell __mikem about mp312:50
lampshadebrexel:  I mean I know what a distro is, but I have no idea considering Ubuntu is technically at some point based on debian, but I don't think that automatically means it is good.12:51
brexellaszlok: you compared ubuntu to kubuntu12:51
brexellampshade: you compared ubuntu to kubuntu12:51
brexelsry laszlok12:51
brexellampshade: but ubuntu = kubuntu12:51
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Flosofthey12:53
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Flosofthow do I setup a Server where I can load up a Kubuntu Image (ISO) and a remote pc (LAN) fires up the image?12:54
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UFOflosoft, i hadn tried it but i think you find more of it on debian site12:57
UFOOr, actually what do you mean fires up the image?12:58
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UFOjay: select vesa with dpkg-reconfigure and you get the x-server running it more fun to get ati card working after that01:00
jayRed_Herring: which driver do i want?  the installer or the X-windows versions?  and if the x-windows versions, which one of those?01:00
jayor UFO01:00
Red_Herring?01:00
jaythanks for all your help, both ofyou01:00
Red_Herringdriver?01:00
Red_Herringati01:00
Red_Herringor fglrx?01:00
jayya, didn't you say get the ati driver?01:01
Red_Herring!fglrx01:01
ubotuI heard fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:01
Red_Herringthat right?01:01
__mikemI installed those packages and still have the same problem01:01
jayi don't know?...01:01
jayyou tell me, haha, i know nothing01:01
Red_Herringwell01:01
Red_Herringdid you insatll anything?01:01
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UFOfglrx01:01
jayno01:01
systany one know of an IM client that can log you in as invisable (like msn)?01:02
brexelany?01:03
UFOcan paste my xorg.conf here?01:03
Red_Herring!pastebin01:03
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)01:03
Red_HerringUSE THAT!01:03
jayRed_Herring/UFO:  so what do i need to install?01:04
Red_Herring!ati01:04
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358901:04
Red_Herringthose drivers01:04
__mikemo now it works01:04
Red_Herringati calls them fglrz01:04
Red_Herring*fglrx01:04
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UFOdo exatly what says on the link i send to you01:04
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as_284hello, does anyone know where are the mbox files of the kmail? y need to backup them01:05
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jayRed_Herring/UFO: or just do the VESA drivers first?01:05
UFOhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/846101:05
UFOthe vesa works at least01:05
UFOthen you can work with ati01:05
brexelas_284: either in Mail or in .kde/share/apps/kmail01:06
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UFOthere is my xorg.conf... i have the 64bit prosessor01:06
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UFOi had to uncomment the int10 line before everything worked fine01:08
jayUFO: are you talking to me?01:08
UFOYes01:09
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jayUFO: i don't really understand what you're talking about...01:09
UFOTry the way on the link, i really did alot of research around the net to find solution to exatly same problem you have...01:10
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as_284brexel: i will chek it out, thanks01:10
brexelyw01:10
fetishhello01:10
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jayUFO: BinaryDriverHowto?01:11
NRG88hm01:11
fetishcan somebody help me ?01:11
UFOhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423584#post42358401:11
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NRG88grr01:12
fetishi use kmail01:12
fetishand i want to download all messages from gmail01:12
NRG88how can i make ame to work only on specific networks?01:12
NRG88i'm on undernet to, and i wan't to use it only there01:12
NRG88but it looks like, the ame-s go here to :)01:13
fetishbut i get just inbox01:13
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brexelfetish try to use imap if gmail supports it01:13
as_284brexel: thanks01:13
brexel:)01:13
UFOjay: let me know if helped in your situation01:14
jayUFO: ok thanks01:14
UFOon the morning i was thinking to throw out all kubuntu/ubuntu shit and know i actually like most the people on channels ;)01:16
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Ivegotaquestioncould somone kindly point me to a KDE 3.5.1 howto?01:17
UFOits on kubuntu website01:17
apokryphosubotu: kde 3.5.1 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php01:17
ubotuokay, apokryphos01:17
apokryphosIvegotaquestion: there :)01:17
Ivegotaquestionthanks apokryphos01:18
jayUFO: i had to do the remove the madwifi package b/c i have that wifi01:19
IvegotaquestionI only need 1 of thoes mirrors right?01:19
UFOok. that i didnt have to do but there are ndiswrapper for wifi cards01:20
apokryphosIvegotaquestion: yes01:21
Ivegotaquestionok ^^01:21
jayUFO: now i'm rremoving the included drivers01:21
Ivegotaquestionapokryphos, is there some way to remove KDE items from gnome's menu and gnome items from KDE's menu?01:21
apokryphosno idea01:21
jayand it outputted "E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-flgrx"01:21
UFOjust follow step by step01:21
apokryphosIvegotaquestion: with regard to removing gnome items from  KDE menu: not sure of any way but manually01:21
jayUFO: do i need to do anything b/c of it?01:22
Ivegotaquestionalright thanks brb01:22
UFOb/c?01:22
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jayUFO: b/c of "E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-flgrx"01:23
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UFOok... you had the laptop connected with wifi?01:23
jaynot connected, no01:24
jayUFO: i thought i needed to remove those packages if i had that wifi card at all01:24
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UFODid you download from ati the package for linux?01:25
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Ivegotaquestionapokryphos, I'm getting a gpg error :-\01:26
jayUFO: which package?01:26
IvegotaquestionI'ts saying the public GPG key is not avalible01:26
IvegotaquestionW: you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems01:26
Ivegotaquestionbut I've apt-get update'd 3 times :S01:27
UFOati******.run or something01:27
HobbseeIvegotaquestion: you can ignore it if you like01:27
Ivegotaquestionit says the following packages have been kept back: and it lists 71 of them =\01:28
IvegotaquestionI've found the key and imported it but I'm still getting the 71 kept back packages01:29
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Hobbseetry sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:29
Ivegotaquestionthats not going to break gnome is it?01:29
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Hobbseeit shouldnt do - you're on breezy?01:32
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Ivegotaquestionyeah01:33
Ivegotaquestionbreezy01:33
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Ivegotaquestionafter its done just logout and in?01:33
jayUFO: i rebooted when it said, but it's still stuck at "Checking battery state...."01:34
UFOok... change the driver dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to vesa01:34
Ivegotaquestionbrb01:36
jayUFO: how do i open a usb key?01:38
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UFONo idea.01:38
UFOwhy?01:39
jayUFO: i had to download the drivers to my usb key since i don't have an internet connection for the laptop01:39
UFOok. now i have to think for a while :)01:40
UFOdo you own a cdwriter01:40
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en0xhi someone using katapult?01:41
jayya01:41
en0xI have problem with it my images are so ugly01:41
en0xand I dont know why01:42
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jayugh01:44
UFOjay do you have the laptop networked with the windows01:44
jayi think i know why i got those error msgs01:44
jayUFO: ? what do you mean?01:44
jayUFO: those instructions assume you're networked...01:44
UFOyep01:45
jayUFO: the laptop only has wireless...01:45
UFOok, do you have wireless router?01:45
jayUFO: yes01:45
jayUFO: but didn't i just remove the wifi drivers?01:46
UFOso the laptop does not have ethernet?01:47
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jayya it does... i gotta find an extra cable, bbiab01:48
jayUFO: i plugged in a cable, but in the network settings, it says my eth0 interface is disabled.  how do i reenable it01:58
Red_Herringifup01:59
Red_Herringor dhclient eth001:59
UFOifup eth001:59
Red_Herringya01:59
jayi enter this into Konsole?01:59
UFOdhclient eth002:00
Red_Herringya02:00
UFOyes02:00
UFOso you got xserver running with vesa?02:01
jayyes02:01
UFOgreat02:01
jayi got an "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"02:01
jayerror...02:01
Red_Herringoh02:02
Red_Herringjust do "dhclient eth0"02:02
Red_Herringsudo02:02
jay"sit0: unknown hardware address type 776"02:02
jay"can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Persion denied"02:03
UFOhmm..02:03
jay"Can't create /var/run/dhclient.pid: Permision denied"02:03
jay"drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted"02:03
Red_Herringya gotta run it as sudo02:03
Red_Herring"sudo dhclient eth0"02:04
jayNICE! thanks02:04
jayok now i'll try those commands all over again02:04
UFOtry ping www.google.com02:04
jayyup works!02:04
UFO:)02:05
UFOtry first atp-get update02:05
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UFOand then apt-get upgrade02:05
IvegotaquestionHow can I easily remove "kubuntu-desktop" and _every_ thing it installs?02:05
UFOprobably you need to reconfigure the apt sources02:06
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brexelIvegotaquestion: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop02:06
Ivegotaquestionthanks ^^02:06
brexelIvegotaquestion: see what it depends on and remove all of that :)02:06
jaynothing needed to be updated02:06
Ivegotaquestionwow02:06
Ivegotaquestiontons of stuff02:06
UFOyes i think you got only cdrom used at the moment02:07
UFOnano -w /etc/apt/sources.list02:07
Ivegotaquestionbrexel uhh is there some way to remove kde & all of its programs leaving python and all the other stuff that gnome would use?02:07
brexelhmm02:07
brexelapt-get remove kde\*02:07
brexeltry02:08
Red_Herringwhy?02:08
brexeli don't know ^^02:08
Ivegotaquestion-s = simulate?02:08
brexelyea02:08
Ivegotaquestionok02:08
Ivegotaquestionhey that works ^^ thanks02:08
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brexelmanpage says :)02:08
brexelyw :)02:09
Ivegotaquestiontheres a few things I have to dig through synaptic to remove but it worked ^^02:09
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Red_Herringya02:10
Ivegotaquestionbrb switching back to gnome ^^02:10
Red_Herringbut they *do* run ubder gnome02:10
jayRed_Herring/UFO: what do i do in the sources list?02:10
UFOthere was an article where you could install both gnome and kde without they could see other ones software02:10
Red_Herring!repos02:10
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UFOdo not enable multiverse02:11
Red_Herringwhy?02:11
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jayRed_Herring/UFO: what do i do in the sources list to enable more sources?02:11
brydennbeefsprocket:  you there?02:11
Red_Herringthere?02:12
UFOtake # marks away from deb lines02:12
Red_Herringlook there:02:12
Red_Herring!repos02:12
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Red_Herring^ there02:12
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beefsprocketbrydenn: sure, what's up?02:12
Ivegotaquestionis there a GTK web browser with KHTML's rendering engine? :O02:12
Red_Herringno02:13
Red_Herringits konqueror, and safari02:13
Ivegotaquestionaw thats not cool :-\02:13
Red_Herringthats all02:13
IvegotaquestionWhat about GTK-Webcore?02:13
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jaywhat program can i use in kubuntu to connect to mIRC?02:14
Red_Herringthats ff core02:14
jayeasier than going back and forth from desktop to laptop02:14
Red_Herringjay: connect to mirc?02:14
Red_Herringya cant02:14
Red_Herringbut you CAN get to the channel here02:14
jayya, i'm talking to you from my windows desktop02:14
Red_Herringirssi02:14
Red_Herringis xserver running?02:15
IvegotaquestionRed_Herring, its nokia's port of KHTML to GTK02:15
UFOi use konversation02:15
jayya running xserver with VESA drivers02:15
Red_Herringwierd02:15
UFOthe VESA is safe bet if got any problem with video02:16
Red_Herringjay: xchat is free under linux02:16
Red_Herringuse it to connect to here02:16
jaywhere can i find xchat in the kmenu?02:16
beefsprocketi hear good things aoubt bitchx02:16
Red_Herringjay, under internet02:16
brexelbitchx rox02:16
brexelbut is a pain in the ass to cfg :D02:16
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UFOapt-get install xchat02:17
beefsprocketah02:17
jasonjay = jason02:17
jason!repos02:17
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beefsprocketbrexel: didn't bitchx have some major backdoors at one point?02:17
UFOThink what a work to use mouse ;)02:18
brexelbeefsprocket: dunno about that sry, i use it only on my private irc server :D02:18
beefsprocketah02:18
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UFOYep, this actually works for me... kubuntu :)02:21
Ivegotaquestionahh! I cant type on my desktop =[02:21
UFOi wonder why it does not have eny default firewalling02:22
Ivegotaquestionthanks for the help guys :)02:23
hatake_kakashiUFO: in case if you want to configure it yourself later, its not that hard :P02:23
jasonUFO/Red_Herring: should i enable security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe repositories?02:23
hatake_kakashiUFO: there's scripts that you can google for it02:23
UFOiptables this iptables that :)02:24
UFOyes i probably put the shorewall02:24
Red_Herringjason: ya02:24
jasonUFO/Red_Herring: so just not the "main restricted" ones?02:25
UFOyes, and uncomment the cdrom02:25
UFOsorry comment out the cdrom02:26
jasonok02:26
UFOnow you can get the cdrom out of it02:26
UFOand then apt-get update && upgrade02:27
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eternaljoyhello02:28
eternaljoyin Konqueror, how can you set it up to display 2 windows so you can drag and drop files?02:28
jasonE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:28
jasonE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?02:28
eternaljoyjason: any ideas please?02:28
UFOclose the synaptic02:28
brexeleternaljoy: right click at the bottom -> split view02:28
UFOor other package software02:28
brexelhttp://www.qwuh.com/xx.jpg02:29
brexel^^02:29
UFOit can only used by on at time02:29
eternaljoybrexel: LOL!  thanks :)  that was easy ;)02:29
brexelyw :)02:29
brexeli had that prepared for some funny reason ^^02:29
eternaljoybrexel: one last question :)  how can I add support for compressing into single files?02:29
jasonok it's going!!!!02:29
jasoneternaljoy: i'm a newb, the guys in here are helping me with stuff too...02:30
brexeleternaljoy: dunno what u mean exactly02:30
eternaljoybrexel: how can I add archive support?02:30
eternaljoybrexel: so I can highlight many files and compress them all into a single file02:30
eternaljoybrexel: like a zip file02:30
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brexelhmm02:30
brexeljust select the files02:30
brexelright click02:30
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hatake_kakashieternaljoy: tar gzip/bzip202:30
brexelcompress->gzipped tar archve02:31
nrdbwhere do I set the name for DHCP on kunbuntu02:31
hatake_kakashitar supports minimal compression, gzipping can compress it better unless if tar has some of it compressed, then your mileage may vary02:31
eternaljoybrexel: I dont have that02:32
brexelnrdb: what do you mean?02:32
eternaljoybrexel: do I need to install that support for Konq?02:32
brexeleternaljoy: hmm maybe some extension for konqueror02:32
brexelnot sure sry02:32
nrdbbrexel: I have a DHCP/DDNS server the kunbuntu install isn't sending a name DDNS, do you know where to set this up.02:32
brexeli have had my kde cfg for YEARS so i don't know what is default ad what i enabled :)02:33
hatake_kakashieternaljoy: I don't know if konqueror has built-in support for it, but you can try Ark02:33
brexelnrdb: you want the dhcp server to assign a hostname to the client or what? :)02:33
UFOJason: it takes a min i have to reboot for kernel change...02:33
eternaljoyhatake_kakashi: how can I add Ark support in Konq?02:33
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jasonok02:34
hatake_kakashieternaljoy: I do not know if it can set to be integrated, but you can apt-get it and then use that02:34
eternaljoyok its working now02:34
brexel:)02:34
eternaljoyi needed to install konq-plugins02:34
brexelhow did u enable it?02:35
brexelok :) thanx :)02:35
eternaljoybrexel: i needed to install konq-plugins02:35
brexelgood to know next time someone asks02:35
hatake_kakashieternaljoy: I've learned to avoid using many things through GUI, therefore I prefer the CLI method..02:35
eternaljoywhats best? Gzip or Bzip2?02:35
brexelyou figured that out pretty fast02:35
brexelbzip202:35
hatake_kakashieternaljoy: there's no better, they compress differently02:35
eternaljoyhatake_kakashi: yeah, but im lazy ;)02:35
eternaljoyok thanks02:35
brexelthough the best compressor ever is rar02:35
eternaljoy:)02:35
eternaljoybrexel: define "best" :)02:36
hatake_kakashibrexel: the best compressor is uharc02:36
hatake_kakashi:p02:36
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brexelnot on text ^^02:36
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nrdbbrexel: it is, a long string of number, I what the kubuntu to send a name instead.  with FC4 the file "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1" has a "DHCP_HOSTNAME", where do I do this for kunbuntu?02:36
brexelbut uharc is great yes02:36
brexelhmmmmm02:36
hatake_kakashiwhen I was on windows, it compressed CS1.5 (~1.4 GB) to a mere ~500MB02:36
hatake_kakashis/it/I02:37
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eternaljoylets have a "best" compressor debate ;)02:37
eternaljoyjk :)02:37
brexelnrdb: my guess would be /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf02:37
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ubuntuhi02:37
hatake_kakashieternaljoy: to be frank, its like buying a car, not all cars are all round/perfect, each has their strengths and weaknesses02:37
brexeleternaljoy: no :) but i feel rar is pretty good and a lot better than bzip202:37
ubuntu#nick02:37
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hatake_kakashibrexel: you can get rar for linux if need be02:38
brexelonce a friend sent me an email with  a 600 kB attachment02:38
brexeli know thx :)02:38
brexeland it turend out to be a 2.5 GB text file :D02:38
SylvianI vote 7z ftw in "best compressor"-category. 7zipped 6.7 gigs of old console roms inte about 680mb02:38
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nrdbbrexel: that looks like it.02:38
eternaljoyhatake_kakashi: that sounds like women you just described ;)02:38
Janexhohi friends02:38
hatake_kakashieternaljoy: well, either way :p02:38
eternaljoyhatake_kakashi: ;)02:39
brexelbut i admit, there was the same text over and over in it :) but still a good laugh02:39
nrdbbrexel: is there any way to reconfigure the DHCP without resetting the computer?02:39
Janexhois possible mount a hard disk from a live cd ??02:39
eternaljoyhatake_kakashi eternaljoy: to be frank, its like buying a car, not all cars are all round/perfect, each has their strengths and weaknesses <-- replace car with women and it still makes sense :)02:39
brexelnrdb: yes: dhclient eth002:39
hatake_kakashiin most cases I do my usual compression for linux with bzip2.. tar -cvf foo.tar * && bzip2 -9vv foo.tar02:39
eternaljoy:)02:39
hatake_kakashieternaljoy: some don't like to compare it like that.. if you were a female, you'd be saying about males too :02:40
hatake_kakashi:P02:40
Janexhois possible mount a hard disk from a live cd ??02:40
brexelnrdb: or /etc/init.d/networking restart02:40
hatake_kakashiJanexho: yes02:40
eternaljoyhatake_kakashi: :)02:40
Janexhohow ??02:40
eternaljoybye everyone02:40
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hatake_kakashiJanexho: man mount02:40
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nrdbbrexel: that worked a charm, thanks.02:40
jasonPackage gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:40
jasonThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:40
jasonis only available from another source02:40
jasonE: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate02:40
jasonPackage gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:41
jasonThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:41
jasonis only available from another source02:41
brexelnrdb: yw :)02:41
jasonE: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate02:41
jasonRed_Herring/UFO: following the ati driver install instructions i got an error saying above02:41
Hobbsee!pastebin02:41
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)02:41
Hobbseeuse apt-cache search02:41
UFOapt-get update02:41
UFOapt-get upgrade02:41
jasonUFO: i did, it finished with no errors02:42
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UFOapt-get install build-essential02:42
brexelUFO: do you have any good string to give apt-get to find that packeage?02:43
brexeli keep forgetting that ^^02:43
jasonPackage build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:43
jasonThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:43
jasonis only available from another source02:43
jasonE: Package build-essential has no installation candidate02:43
hatake_kakashijason: use pastebin ffs02:44
brexelbuild-essential02:44
brexelright here02:44
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eternaljoyhi again :)02:44
brexelhi ^^02:44
eternaljoyhow can I add kgpg support to Konqueror so I cam decrypt etc?02:44
UFOjason: you got something wrong in sources.list02:45
brexeloh man i love this channel02:45
brexelpeople actually are willing to learn :)02:45
UFO:)02:45
brexeland to listen and also give their knowledge :)02:45
jason!repos02:45
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eternaljoybrexel: how can I add kgpg support to Konqueror so I cam decrypt etc?  atm it keeps saying 0 keys imported!02:46
UFOdon not enable the multiverse02:46
brexeleternaljoy: sry no experience with that ^^02:46
_saramy cpu frequency is all messesd up02:46
jasonUFO: ok02:46
nrdbbrexel: I think there needs to be a refinment done to the 'Network Settings' config system.  If an interface is set to DHCP the 'Domain Name Sytem->Host name' should be put in the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file.  Don't you?02:47
jason!pastebin02:47
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)02:47
brexelno, DNS is something different02:47
_saraanyone knows how to fix my CPU frequency?02:47
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brexelit's the ip address of your DNS server (that translates IPs into hostnames and vice versa02:48
UFOjason: probably you didnt have the main restricted02:49
UFO_sara: do you have a laptop?02:49
_sarano its a desktop02:49
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nrdbbrexel: where you talking to me then.02:49
jasonUFO: i'm gonna pastebin my screenshot of adept and let you have a look, one sec02:49
UFOjason: ok02:50
brexelnrdb: i think so :D sorry i'm wasted :D02:50
UFO_sara: it probably in bios02:50
_sarabios?02:50
_saraI dualboot windows at its fine there02:50
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brexelnrdb: i must admit i do not think the graphical config utils are perfect yet...it is always good if you know where to look in the cfg files :)02:50
UFOok.. then i think its acpi02:51
_saraacpi02:51
nrdbbrexel: for a LAN which is where this gets used mostly the name is important.  yes I agree with that but the better they are the easier the whole thing is to setup.02:51
jasonUFO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i846402:52
brexelnrdb: the name is only important if you have a DNS server or use wins or netbios02:52
jasonUFO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i846502:52
UFOjason: uncomment everything else but not the backport section02:53
UFOjason: and the cdrom02:53
nrdbbrexel: if you supply a name it can hurt to put in the DHCP file if there isn't a DDNS it wont get used anyway.02:53
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UFOjason: then it should work02:53
brexelnrdb: still, for TCP/IP a name is worth nothing02:54
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UFOmac addres02:54
UFO;)02:54
jasonUFO: it's working!02:55
UFOjason: great02:55
UFOjason: do the update and upgrade02:55
nrdbbrexel: the first place I tried to set this up is with the GUI.  I agree with TCP/IP names aren't anything but all I am saying is that the 'Network Settings' should set it up if it can, It would have made my life a lot easier, and as said before it can't hurt.02:56
UFOtcp/ip its working on mac addres see arp02:56
UFOnrdb: to what do you need dhcp name?02:56
brexelnrdb: you're right about that. probably you should file a bug report so that the kde team know about that ^^02:57
nrdbUFO: I sometimes connect in other computers.02:57
nrdbbrexel: I thought that app was done by ubuntu/kunbutu team.02:57
UFOnrdb: you meen you are usin another dhcp server?02:57
_saraso no one knows?02:58
nrdbUFO: I have setup one of my computers to be a DHCP/DDNS server (as well as other things)02:58
brexelsorry i really don't kow abou that :) as i said befor i am used to doing system stuff in text files ^^ i thin i've never used that utility ^^02:59
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UFOnrdb: yes but dhcp discovery goes with broadcast addresses03:00
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UFOnrdb: every machine on same fysical network gets those 255.255.255.25503:01
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XyFeXoy03:02
nrdbUFO: I know it uses broadcast, my firewall stops the broadcasts.03:02
jasonUFO: one of the commands to install the ati driver is ati-driver-installer-8.22.5-i386.run03:02
nrdbUFO: i don't think my ISP passes them on ether.03:02
jasonUFO: sorry03:02
XyFeXgot kubuntu on ppc (teal imac, G3), trying to use extrernal mic but cant seem to be able to03:03
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jasonUFO: it's sudo sh ./ati-driver-----------.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy03:03
XyFeXby default the system uses the little mic on top of the comp...03:03
jasonUFO: does it matter that i'm running kubuntu? should i still enter Ubuntu/breezy as the command?03:03
UFOjason: yes03:04
jasonUFO: thx03:04
UFOnrdb: you would like to get ip from your own dhcp server?03:04
nrdbUFO: for just the computer on my local LAN, every thing is going fine, with one minor problem that I am not worrying about for now, the remotes can use things like '$> ping compaq' where the server needs to use '$> ping compaq.localdomain'.03:07
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UFOuse your own dns server and create in there own domains for difrent ip adresses03:08
jasonbrb, gotta reboot03:09
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jasonUFO: is there a command to reboot?03:09
UFOreboot03:09
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swimhey, what do you guys preffer for a file-sharing app?03:10
UFOnrdb: it nice becouse it does leave dnsquerys most on your own computer, it just updates its database from root servers03:10
UFOssh03:10
UFOswim: ssh03:10
swimUFO: I meant something that uses p2p like kmldonkey03:11
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nrdbUFO: the DNS querys are working, my problem was finding out how to setup kubuntu to give the DDNS a name, that has been fixed.03:11
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flyinghearthi everyone  :)03:12
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jasonUFO: IT WORKED!!!!03:14
m_tadeuhi...how do i format a partition as an ext3?03:15
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jasonUFO: confirming the install isn't working though...03:15
jasonjason@ubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo03:16
jasonlibGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted03:16
jasonlibGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering03:16
jasondisplay: :0.0  screen: 003:16
jasonOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org03:16
jasonOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect03:16
jasonOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)03:16
jasonis that an ok error?03:16
jasonUFO: is that an ok error?03:17
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jasonRed_Herring?03:19
jasonhello?03:21
jasonanyone there?03:22
_Johnnyso yea... G3 mac, default mic is /dev/dsp... what would be the soundcard port? (coz it doesent seem like theres any autoswitching going on)03:23
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jasonhas anyone installed the ati drivers?03:27
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jasonUFO: hi03:28
UFOjason: hi did it work?03:29
jasonUFO: yes it did, but when i did the confirmation part of the install, it gave an error03:29
jasonjason@ubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo03:29
jasonlibGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted03:29
jasonlibGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering03:29
jasondisplay: :0.0  screen: 003:29
jasonOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org03:29
jasonOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect03:29
jasonOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)03:29
hatake_kakashi!tell jason about pastebin03:30
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UFOjason: try modprobe fglrx03:31
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jasonUFO: that didn't return anything03:32
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analisahello guys, I just installed kubuntu... can someone tell me the root password??? the instalation never ask for one... and know I only have one user account03:32
UFOjason: try now the fglrxinfo03:32
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UFOanalisa: it does use the sudo03:33
jason!pastebin03:33
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)03:33
UFOanalisa: it does not have the root password03:33
analisaUFO: so there's no root password? sudo?03:33
_Johnnyhehe03:33
analisagod this is too user friendly for me...03:33
jasonUFO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/846603:34
UFOanalisa: sudo whatyouwant03:34
_JohnnyAnyone knows how to change from intergrated mic to sound card port with an old G3 ppc?03:35
jasonUFO: so there's a libGL error....03:35
UFOjason: try to change the monitor settings... is the size of your screen 15.4 inch03:35
analisaUFO: how can I add a new account?03:35
jasonya i think so03:36
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jasonwhat settings am i changing?03:36
analisaUFO: there's a user account system settings but there's no new user option...03:36
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UFOanalisa: sudo adduser03:37
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UFOjason: try to change the monitor settings more near your screen use 60hz if possible03:37
jasonUFO: the resolution and refresh rate are right03:38
jason1280x800 @ 60Hz03:38
analisaUFO: god who was the genius that come with that idea!?? User and groups in system administration is asking me for root password!!! what's the point in not setting a password for root, if all the graphical stuff need password... so I need to go to one terminal and type sudo adduser!??? this really sucks... I want my root password set up!!!!!!!03:38
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UFOanalisa: sudo password and put first your password and then two times your root password03:39
_Johnnyin kcontrol and various apps u will be simply prompted for it03:39
analisaUFO, thanks03:39
UFOjason: i have to think for a second03:39
jasonUFO: does that error even matter? i mean, i'm running kubuntu now, it seems to work as far as i can see...03:40
jasonUFO: thanks03:40
UFOjason: its not using the 3d acceleration03:40
UFOtry the fgl_glxgears03:41
jasonjason@ubuntu:~$ fgl_glxgears03:41
jasonUsing GLX_SGIX_pbuffer03:41
jasonlibGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted03:42
jasonlibGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering03:42
jasonX Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)03:42
jason  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)03:42
jason  Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)03:42
jason  Serial number of failed request:  3603:42
jason  Current serial number in output stream:  3603:42
UFOjason: if you are not planning for games so it does not matter so much, but it would be nice to get working03:42
jasonnot really planning on gaming, i guess i can stop now, if i have time, i'll pop back in here and ask you guys...03:42
UFOjason: ok...03:43
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jasonUFO: are there anymore websites/wiki's that have ways to fix this problem?03:43
UFOjason: google ati x300 ubuntu03:43
jasonUFO: it's not an x300...03:43
UFOjason: what was it?03:44
jasonUFO: Xpress 200M03:44
UFOjason: ok x200 ... pci express 200 mobile igp03:45
jasonUFO: so just google it... ok03:45
jasonUFO: thanks for all your help!!!!03:45
ilba7rany one running fglrx 8.22.5 having prob with occasional x crash?03:45
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jasonUFO: this channel and the whole ubuntu community is great!03:46
UFOjason: No problem :)03:46
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jasonUFO: Ohh!!!03:47
jasonUFO: to install these drivers i had to disable my wireless03:47
jasonUFO: how do i renenable them?03:47
robotgeekjason: you are not _jason, are you?03:47
UFOjason: try to install linux-restricted-modules03:48
jasoncd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile03:48
jasonsudo cp ath_hal.ko ../madwifi03:48
jasonUFO: i did this:03:48
UFOjason: try with windows drivers with ndiswrapper03:49
jasonUFO: is that what it's called?  cause i did "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules03:49
jasonUFO: google that?03:49
UFOjason: yes google is the solution for most of the problems... put your laptop type wireless and ubuntu it should give something03:50
UFOjason: wlan or sometihing03:50
jasonUFO: ok thanks03:51
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UFOjason: or just try to enable it in network conf in system-settings03:51
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jasonUFO: i only see eth0 under Network interfaces03:54
ilba7r!ndiswrapper03:55
UFOjason: what is your laptop model?03:55
ubotundiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper03:55
UFOjason: the ndiswrapper was only way i got my broadcom wlan card working... but it seems to work fine03:55
jasonUFO: toshiba M7003:56
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ilba7rjason in a terminal type lspci |grep Wireless03:58
ilba7rwill tell you what card you have03:59
jasoni have an atheros card03:59
ilba7r!atheros03:59
ubotuilba7r: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:59
ilba7ryou have to consult the wiki on that but i think you need madwifi for it04:00
UFOjason: or try copy the .inf and the .sys files from windows drivers and getit work with ndiswrapper04:01
Knowerrorsanybody know how to test computer battery?04:01
UFOKnowerrors: what would you like to test04:02
UFOjason: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu04:04
KnowerrorsUFO: the motherboard battery, clock seems to be loosing time, but not sure04:05
KnowerrorsUFO: want to see if I should replace it04:05
ilba7rjason there is a wiki on compiling ati prop drivers on ubuntu forums and have a sect on how to reset the madwifi package04:05
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UFOjason: try modprobe ath_pci04:06
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Hostileanyone here on dapper?04:07
ilba7rjason look at the last section on madwifi http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358404:08
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UFOHostile: i did give a try for it but got network troubles04:09
HostileYeah its breaking my Crossover and I read thats a common issue and I was wondering if there was a fix, I mean I'm not complaining, I know running unstable will have problems like this04:10
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UFOHostile: try ifup eth004:13
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HostileUFO: I'm talking about CrossOver Office, You know codeweavers wine04:14
UFOHostile: heh... ok04:15
UFOHostile: did you ever got working04:16
HostileI didn't try using it until I upgraded to dapper, Ive read on the Ubuntu forums that people didn't get this error before dapper, It's interesting to say the least, No one seems to know the cause exactly04:16
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UFO!crossover04:17
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, UFO04:17
Hostile?04:18
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ilba7rHostile: i am running crossover here on breezy no probl. Have you tried reinstalling it?04:19
ilba7rand exct what probl you have with it?04:20
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HostileI get this error message:04:21
HostileUnable to convert 'c:/" to a Unix path:04:21
HostileThats what other dapper people are getting also04:21
ilba7rHostile04:22
ilba7rok try this work around might help04:22
Hostilek04:22
ilba7rcd .crossover04:22
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HostileYou mean .cxoffice?04:22
ilba7ryap sorry04:22
Hostilek04:22
ilba7rdid you try to change the symbolic link in the dos devices04:23
HostileYeah I played around with that04:23
ilba7reh i used to configure it the old way from the configuration file but they changed all that now04:24
HostileYeah its alot different than it used to be04:25
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ilba7rhostile and i assume you tried re install too04:25
HostileYep.04:25
HostileSome people are pointing the finger at the 2.6.15-15 kernel04:25
ilba7rthanx Hostile you just give me a reason not to upgrade not yet anyway04:26
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bert_I had a lot of signal 11 messages in KDE, couldn't find which program or lib fos the problem.04:28
Hostileilba7r: yep, at least I can warn other people thinking about upgrading04:28
HostileI just realized im running the i386 kernel...Im switching to i686 smp, That may fix it04:28
Hostiledoubtful though.04:28
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ilba7rHostile if you use it for personal use and need it you can use deebootstrap and reinstall a minimal breezy04:29
bert_But I installed Knome and now I don't have signal 11 meesages04:29
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Hostileilba7r: I can downgrade your saying?04:30
monteirohow do i install window decorations in kde ?04:30
ilba7rHostile: nope running both breezy and ubuntu side by side04:30
bert_Might have been KDE looking for libs in gnome04:30
Hostileilba7r: breezy and dapper at the same time, how does that work?04:31
ilba7r!dapper drake04:31
ubotuI heard dapper drake is the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper04:31
UFOHostile: do you have two prosessors for i686 smp04:31
ilba7rlook at the link with Debootstrapchroot04:31
HostileUFO: I have Hyperthreading, which uses SMP04:31
UFOOk...04:32
ilba7rggod luck my friend got to go04:32
HostileUFO: and with smp installed I can do large compiles with make -j3 which can compile 2 files at the same time, I get compile a kernel in 4 minutes04:32
UFOHostile: is it intel?04:33
UFOyes04:34
HostileUFO: yeah a 2.8ghz P IV04:34
Hostilebrb I'm going to reboot the new kernel04:35
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monteirowhat do i need to compile kde decorations ?04:40
monteirowhen i compile it , it says xorg-dev is missing, but i don't have a package with that name04:40
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hatake_kakashimonteiro: apt-cache search xorg| grep dev04:41
httpdsswhere do i get the fixed version of kword ?04:42
monteirohatake_kakashi: its xlibs-static-dev ?04:43
hatake_kakashimonteiro: nfi, try it04:43
monteirook04:43
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QueenSaradamnit04:54
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jmarreroNaruto rocks :D05:26
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Unoany link to upgrade my firefox to 1.5.01 from 1.0.705:35
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KnowerrorsAnybody use Simple Backup program in ubuntu?05:38
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Unoany link to upgrade my firefox to 1.5.01 from 1.0.705:40
Knowerrors!firefox05:42
Uno!firefox05:42
Uno! firefox05:42
Unohmm?05:42
Knowerrorsfollow the links ubotu sent you05:42
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Unoi mean any website that teaches me how to upgrade?05:43
arrinmurr!firefox1.505:44
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:44
Unothanks05:44
Uno1.5.0.1? or 1.5?05:44
arrinmurrUno: it doesn't really matter what version of firefox it is. the way to install it is the same05:45
Knowerrorsyeah, Id go with 0.1, bugs fixed and such05:45
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arrinmurrah, yes, the latest should be used of course :)05:46
Snake__Can someone help me with kcron05:46
KnowerrorsSo how do people around here backup there root and home to dvd?  I was looking at either using Simple Backup, K3B, or partimage05:47
Unothanks05:47
Snake__anyone05:48
manveruhey guys, i've got a odd problem... there are no keyboard-layouts for me to switch anymore05:50
Unoi got access denied when downloading file from konqueror, what should id o?05:50
manveruUno: well, maybe you don't have access :)05:50
Unoproblem with konqueror it can't use sudo05:50
manveruit can05:51
manverukdesu konqueror05:51
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Unokdesu?05:51
Unoin console?05:51
manveru[alt] +[f2] 05:51
manveruor in the console - what you prefer05:51
Unokdesu is sorta like sudo?05:52
manveruyeah, it's sudo for graphical apps05:52
Snake__Uno: kdesu is sudo for GUI applications05:52
Unok05:53
Snake__manveru: beat me to it :)05:53
manveru^^05:53
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LeeJunFansomething just occured to me I haven't run into with ubuntu's no root password policy. What happens when reboot fsck finds errors and it wants root password so you can run fsck manually?05:54
Snake__manveru: Id help if I knew :(05:54
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manveruhmm05:56
manverulooks like kde 3.5.1 expects to be running on xfree86 :|05:56
manveruk... let's restart x05:57
manveruit has a sweet uptime of 16 days already :)05:58
manverubrb...05:58
Uno"To ensure that other programs use version 1.5 of firefox and not the old 1.07 version, go to Preferences -> Preferred Applications in the System menu. For the "Web Browser" tab, choose "Custom" and then enter the command", I can't find the preferred application menu06:02
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CellarDoorhey folks06:16
CellarDoorStill couldnt get kubuntu onto the amd64 system but we think we know what the problem is - His BenQ drive06:17
Uno"To ensure that other programs use version 1.5 of firefox and not the old 1.07 version, go to Preferences -> Preferred Applications in the System menu. For the "Web Browser" tab, choose "Custom" and then enter the command", I can't find the preferred application menu06:17
CellarDoorWe're gonna put my drive in his system and install it that way06:18
CellarDoorI'm not going to bother with Firefox 1.5 till its on the repositories06:19
KnowerrorsUno: its different in KDE06:20
Unonvm06:20
Unofound it06:20
CellarDoor:)06:20
Unois there anything to make the font look smooth06:20
CellarDoorUno are you using kubuntu ?06:21
CellarDoorbreezy ?06:21
Unoyeah06:22
CellarDoorok, first port of call is System Settings06:22
Unohmm, not sure if it's breezy06:22
Unohow can i check?06:22
CellarDoordo you have System Settings in the K menu ?06:22
Unoyeah06:23
CellarDoorif you click on it do you get a panel thats a bit like what you get on an apple mac ?06:23
Unoyes06:23
CellarDooryour using breezy :)06:24
Unook06:24
Unonow how do i make my font look smooth06:24
Uno:)06:24
CellarDoorclick on 'appearance'06:24
CellarDoorfirst icon06:24
Unoyeah06:24
CellarDoorchoose fonts06:24
Unoyup06:24
CellarDoormake sure anti-aliasing is on06:25
Unoyeah, it's already on06:25
CellarDooryou could click on the configure button and have a fiddle06:25
CellarDoorsee if that helps06:25
Unok06:26
Unothanks06:26
CellarDoorThere are 'more technical' things you can do but I've never had any luck with that sort of thing06:26
Unooh i see06:26
Unowell i'm happy i got firefox 1.5.0.1 working06:26
CellarDoor:)06:27
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CellarDoorI had crappy looking fonts for a while, but since I upgraded to kubuntu 5.10 (breezy) on my new monitor it looks good now... I think there's other things you can do but I'm not the person to ask :P06:28
UnoCellarDoor: tried this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976&highlight=smooth+font06:28
CellarDoorThats for 5.04 (hoary) but It might work06:29
Unooh06:29
CellarDoorHave a go with it, if it works, add a post to that forum thread telling people how you went with the same thing on Breezy (if someone else hasn't already done so). :)06:31
Unok06:32
Unobut it's for Ubuntu06:32
Unognome06:32
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CellarDooryeah06:33
CellarDoorAnd those two screenshots look the same to me :P06:33
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Unoyeah..haha06:35
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CellarDoorEither he can see better than us all or he's had too much coffee and needs to go outside :P06:35
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theballhi06:42
CellarDoorhi theball :)06:43
theballwhats goin on tonight?06:43
CellarDoornot much :P06:43
theballwhy come?06:43
Uno<<<< linux noob06:43
Unohow do i restart X06:43
theballctrl alt bckspace06:44
CellarDoorUno: ctrl+alt+backspace06:44
theballsorry forgot my manners06:44
CellarDoorAnd you'll be plonked back at your login screen06:44
Unothanks06:44
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CellarDoortheball: just came to see whats going on and tell people how things went with a kubuntu install on an AMD64 that was going pear shaped last night06:45
theballso whats goin on in your part of the world CellarDoor06:45
CellarDoorIts Saturday, day off, I'm vegin out06:45
theballi enjoy loading systems and getting hardware to work06:45
theballwierd huh?06:46
CellarDoorWe learned how to partition Windows and Kubuntu06:46
CellarDoorWhich was good06:46
theballi quit love how  my laptop works now that I have a few glitches worked out06:46
UnoCellarDoor: i think http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116482&highlight=font works06:46
Unoyeah it works06:46
Unomake font smooth06:46
Unoeven thought i don't use nvidia06:47
theballis that a   commin type of thing learned and tried here?06:47
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CellarDoorUno: Might do06:47
moonadecrimsun: moved06:47
moonadecrimsun: (i am a kubuntu user)06:48
crimsunok, sure06:48
crimsundoes iptables -vnL confirm that everything is ACCEPTed?06:48
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CellarDoortheball: I have a friend who wants to use Windows and Kubuntu on his AMD64 and we weren't having any luck getting Kubuntu to install, but we figure its his BenQ drive.06:49
Unowould be nice to hv a 12 hr clock06:49
moonadeyes, pretty much so06:49
moonadecrimsun: yes, pretty much so06:49
moonadecrimsun: but i can stop the firewall06:49
crimsunmoonade: yes, stop it completely, and flush all the rules06:49
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theballCellarDoor: some drives are a real pain06:50
CellarDoorUno: Right click on your clock and choose 'Date and time format' In the menu06:51
CellarDoorI think that is where you go06:51
Unothanks06:51
CellarDoortheball: yeah, I'm gonna download the DVD version and see if that works, if not we'll put my Pioneer drive in his computer and install it that way06:51
CellarDoorUno: np06:51
theballCellarDoor: i had alot of problems with the drive in my snell laptop but a new cd fixed the issue for me06:52
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CellarDoortheball: yeah, we tried two different downloads and two different brands of CD... no luck. I think we'll probably have to put my drive in his computer to get Kubuntu installed.06:53
theballah ha06:53
theballis anyone familliar with getting a command line run app to load pre xwindows on boot up?06:54
CellarDoorNot me :P06:54
crimsunyou need to place it in a script and use update-rc.d to configure it06:55
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theballcrimsun i understand the concept but do not know how to go about doing it06:55
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_felipedoes anyone here know how to modify a deb package?06:56
crimsun_felipe: anything more specific than that?06:56
crimsuntheball: start by reading the man page for update-rc.d06:57
theballthanks ill do that06:57
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crimsuntheball: the basic idea: put your command in a script, place the script in /etc/init.d/something, then use update-rc.d something defaults06:57
_felipei have the qemu 0.8.0 package which i downloaded form the kubuntu repository. I want to put the kqemu module inside so it compiles everything at once06:58
theballcrimsun i get that, i want to start lineak for my keyboard buttons.06:58
_felipei dont if the module can be added after the installation as all manuals say to compile from tar06:59
_felipeor maybe do you know if there is a program to make a deb package from a tar. in that way i can join 2 tars and make a new deb07:00
crimsun_felipe: how is kqemu related to qemu? I presume it's a frontend?07:03
_felipeit is an accelerator module07:03
_felipein the tar installation it says i only have to put the kqemu tared folder inside the qemu tared folder before the ./configure make ...07:04
crimsunI presume you pulled deb-src?07:05
crimsunif so, just dump it in there and modify debian/* as appropriate07:06
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_felipeplease specify, what should i do with deb-src?07:07
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crimsun_felipe: deb-src is what I called Debianised source07:07
_felipeoh07:09
_felipewhat i pulled was qemu_0.8.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb07:09
crimsunthat's the binary deb that's generated07:09
crimsunyou want the Debianised source07:09
_felipeis it the dsc?07:09
_felipewith the tar and the diff?07:10
crimsunit's the orig.tar.gz + diff.gz07:10
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_felipeand how do i modify that to add the kqemu  module?07:11
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crimsun_felipe: extract the orig.tar.gz, apply the diff.gz to it, and add the kqemu files07:12
_felipeok ill try that07:12
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_felipethanks07:12
CellarDoorhey folks, I'm new to burning DVD iso's of Kubuntu... Can I use K3B for that ?07:13
moonadecrimsun: sorry, i was afk. yes, i flushed all rules. no firewall.07:13
crimsunmoonade: and now?07:13
moonadecrimsun: (and still same results)07:13
moonadecrimsun: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer07:13
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moonadecrimsun: (when running ssh)07:13
crimsunmoonade: telnet localhost 2207:13
crimsun...07:13
CellarDoorah, nevermind, I see the "New data DVD project" thingy :P07:15
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mistworksHi to all07:27
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EightiesK!tar07:34
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MungalloXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:37
Mungalloany ideas?07:37
MungalloAti driver install off of http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 gives me this error07:37
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ice_1963bur07:43
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Mungalloso heres a novel question, is it possible to switch from an amd64 kernel to an x86 kernel?08:06
Mungalloobviously without reinstalling the entire os.08:07
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CellarDoorhmm doesnt sound promising08:07
CellarDoorI don't think I'd wanna try it08:08
MungalloI would figure it's possible with the x86_64, but I'm not really sure.08:08
Mungallolol08:08
CellarDoorBut then, if youre using an AMD64, why would you want to ?08:08
Mungallosupport isn't currently where I want it to be. granted its far better on kubuntu than elsewhere, but i find myself doing too many workarounds.08:09
CellarDoorsupport for amd64 ?08:10
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Mungalloyeah.08:10
keqiuguanghi08:11
Mungallolo08:11
keqiuguangevryone08:11
CellarDoorhi keqiuguang :)08:11
keqiuguangty08:11
keqiuguangi am new here08:12
CellarDoorwelcome :)08:12
keqiuguangfirst time using tis08:12
CellarDooroh...08:12
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robotgeekMungallo: i don't think that's possible08:14
Mungallodunno.08:15
robotgeekall the apps are compiled against 64 bit08:15
Mungalloyeah I was thiking about that.08:15
Mungallomakes sense that they would be.08:15
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_rob!w32codecs08:16
ubotu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:16
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cold_mdo you have anybody09:09
cold_m?09:09
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cold_mRemoving vpopmail-bin ...09:10
cold_m/etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)09:10
cold_minvoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "stop" failed.09:10
cold_mdpkg: error processing vpopmail-bin (--remove):09:10
cold_m subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 209:10
cold_m/etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)09:10
cold_minvoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "start" failed.09:10
cold_mdpkg: error while cleaning up:09:10
cold_m subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 209:10
cold_mErrors were encountered while processing:09:10
cold_m vpopmail-bin09:10
cold_mE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:10
cold_mwhy i cant remove09:10
cold_m?!!?!??!09:10
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cold_mlarsivi, are you here?09:15
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cold_meiiii09:16
cold_mwhere are you09:17
cold_m?!09:17
larsivicold_m: yes?09:18
cold_mcold_m Removing vpopmail-bin ...09:18
cold_mcold_m /etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)09:18
cold_mcold_m invoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "stop" failed.09:18
cold_mcold_m dpkg: error processing vpopmail-bin (--remove):09:18
cold_mcold_m  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 209:18
cold_mcold_m /etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)09:18
cold_mcold_m invoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "start" failed.09:18
cold_mcold_m dpkg: error while cleaning up:09:18
cold_mcold_m  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 209:18
cold_mcold_m Errors were encountered while processing:09:18
cold_mcold_m  vpopmail-bin09:18
cold_mcold_m E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:18
cold_mwhy i cant remove09:18
cold_m???09:18
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larsivicold_m: hmm, I don't really know, but are you using dpkg directly or apt-get?09:19
cold_mi use apt-get09:20
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cold_mbut this is the error09:20
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skypagreetings09:22
larsivicold_m: then I don't know. sorry09:28
cold_mok :(09:28
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skypaany of you guys know, if xchat can in any way support composite (real transparency) or know a irc client that does/can?09:29
skypaand excuse my grammar, I didn't sleep for 48 hours ;)09:31
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Mungallocold: have you tried a ps -ef | grep vpop? and then kill any procs running?09:41
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cold_mno09:47
hatake_kakashi!info vpopmail09:49
hatake_kakashi!info vpop09:49
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hatake_kakashiheh that's what you get for installing it, its under multiverse.. probably there is something wrong with the uninstall script, or you ran out of mem, or you tried to manually delete it, etc09:50
MungalloThe other thing you can do is  a find / -name vpopmail  and then manually delete it.09:55
Mungallothat might get kinda dirty though09:55
hatake_kakashilsof comes in handy if there is something using it, etc09:55
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cold_mif i reboot the computer ?09:56
Mungalloo_O?09:56
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luisitohello10:41
Blippelo10:42
luisitoif you use openoffice and have the application menu in the mac os style, the openoffice menu is in kde or in its own window?10:42
Blippeit's in the office menu, right beside lyx, gnumeric and scribus if you install 'em too :D10:44
MeTahi all10:46
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Blippehi ther morpheus, meta10:46
MetaMorfoziS:)10:47
MetaMorfoziShow can i modify the PATH?10:47
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MetaMorfoziSor add sg ?10:47
MetaMorfoziS!path10:47
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS10:47
MetaMorfoziSargh10:47
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Blippepath?10:48
MetaMorfoziSyes10:48
MetaMorfoziSfor ex, i type firefox in terminal10:48
Blippelike the $path$ in windows?10:48
MetaMorfoziSit starts firefox from /a/b/c10:48
Blippeoh.. i c10:48
MetaMorfoziSyes10:48
MetaMorfoziSthis is the symlink?10:49
MetaMorfoziSi don't know, but i found this10:49
MetaMorfoziS!symlink10:49
ubotusymlink is, like, ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link10:49
Blippelets see... I just remember how i do that at campus... they had a shortcut...10:49
luisitoBlippe: thanks10:49
MetaMorfoziSit's not the symlink10:50
MetaMorfoziS!firefox10:50
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luisitomy god! this KDE is far, far, far beyond gnome. now I feel I was using windows 95 with gnome. (i'm surprised!!)10:51
Blippeeasy way out might be to put a shortcut in /usr/sbin/ to the prog10:51
MetaMorfoziSok...10:51
MetaMorfoziS:)10:51
BlippeMetaMorfoziS, and that is NOT by far a good way to do it10:52
MetaMorfoziS!firefox1.510:52
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:52
MetaMorfoziSwhy?10:52
MetaMorfoziSTo ensure it is used as the default version, modify the symbolic link in /usr/bin:10:53
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fatejudger!fglrx10:54
ubotuwell, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:54
MetaMorfoziSok i'm soluted10:55
MetaMorfoziS:)10:55
MetaMorfoziSthx.)10:56
fatejudger!sources.list10:56
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:56
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keqiuguanghi10:56
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mo0osahi'm dualbooting with windows xp, is there a way to boot windows while in linux11:03
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Blippemo0osah, you're able to start windows programs with wine, if that is what you want!11:05
Blippemo0osah, the results aren't always the greatest11:05
_mindspinhi, after a dist-upgarde to breezy, kaffeine plays some videos (mpg) extremely slow, any suggestions?11:05
Zeuszmo0osah: Win4Lin11:09
cold_mZeusz, do you know how work with Win4Lin11:12
cold_m?11:12
ZeuszNo ideea11:12
Zeuszjust heard of it11:13
cold_m:)11:13
ZeuszFrom Romania cold_m11:13
Zeuszjust i'm not registered11:14
cold_mmo0osah, also you may use cedega11:14
Zeuszhow can I register11:14
Zeuszyes Cedega is good for the games11:14
cold_m./msg nickserv register pass11:14
cold_mcedega is good also for programs11:14
cold_mCrossOver is very good for programs11:14
cold_m:)11:14
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mo0osahcold_m: i have vmware istalled11:24
mo0osahdo you know how to use it to boot my windows parittion11:24
cold_mwhat is vmware11:24
cold_mno11:24
mo0osahk11:24
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shenchienhow to install baghira?11:41
Tm_Tshenchien: apt-cache search baghira11:41
Tm_Tyou get package name11:41
Tm_Tthen sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <package>11:41
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mo0osahanyone experienced with vmware11:44
carlosbuenos dias como puedo  poner el canal de kubuntu espaol11:45
bimberi!es11:45
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:45
carlosgracias11:45
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bimberiyw :)11:46
mo0osahI am dual booting currently but am tired of rebooting again and again to switch between windows and linux, so i installed vmware.  Now is there a way to boot my windows partition using vmware?11:46
Tm_Tbimberi: yay!11:47
Tm_Tshenchien: got it?11:47
Tm_T...looks like it11:48
bimberiTm_T: :)11:48
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syahira1fiE_deE11:54
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tchizeHello12:26
robotgeekhi tchize12:26
tchizei have a desktop station to reinstall, it was previously a now deeply broken debian distro12:27
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tchizeam used to debian but not to ubuntu, is there some place i can find minimal iso install (and download all package at installation time) or is it mandatory to downlaod a 600M iso?12:28
robotgeektchize: there is no minimal iso install, but since it's already broken, you might want to experiment with upgrading directly?12:28
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tchizerobotgeek: no i want a fresh install :)12:28
tchizeit's broken at kernel level :)12:29
tchizebe back12:29
robotgeektchize: ah okay12:29
Tonio_hi12:30
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robotgeekhey Tonio_12:30
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robotgeekTonio_: did the desktop wallpaper guy mail back?12:31
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Tonio_robotgeek: nope.......12:31
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Tonio_I need to find a good one under a free licence, can be gpl, lgpl, bsd or even CC12:31
robotgeeki'll look and see if i can find something12:32
Tonio_if some of you have something clean, not agressive (consider it has to be the default for dapper), and eventually NOT blue, should be nice12:32
Tonio_I would appreciate a green one12:32
robotgeekTonio_: heh, okay. green it will be12:32
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Tonio_robotgeek: mail me the ones you may find ;) to busy today for irc ;)12:33
Tonio_robotgeek: tonio (at) ubuntu.com12:33
Tonio_thanks by advance, hehehe12:33
robotgeekTonio_: okay, i'll mail you some stuff. or i'll ask around.12:33
robotgeeki meant if someone knew offhand12:34
Tonio_no pb, I'm leaving you, few bugs to work on today....12:34
robotgeekTonio_: heh, i am working on the Desktop Guide12:34
Tonio_hum, that's important12:34
Tonio_although, you may need my package when accepted to notice on it the configuration...12:35
Tonio_the desktop config is way different with that package.....12:35
robotgeekTonio_: which one?12:35
Tonio_robotgeek: in fact I'm actually working on kubuntu-desktop-settings package....12:35
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robotgeekTonio_: ah, nice12:36
Tonio_we will discuss it during the kubuntu meeting on 02/1612:36
robotgeekcool, i think i'll be there to atleast understand what it does12:36
Tonio_many little improvements on the default desktop configuration, like fonts (which were ungly till now), kopete default config, usage of a moodin kdm theme, konquerors config improvements and many more things12:36
robotgeeki just love moodin :)12:37
Tonio_robotgeek: I'll write a guide in pdf with screenshots to explain why I did this and that and the purpose.... then the differents points will have to be accepted, modifed or rejected12:37
robotgeeki dunno how it works, but I installed it, and my login manager looked very sleek12:37
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robotgeekTonio_: sounds cool, hopefully i will be done with the first draft of Desktop Guide next week12:38
Tonio_yep moodin is fine, but it has to be in main to become the kubuntu defaults12:38
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robotgeekyeah, i caught that bit in the meetings page12:38
Tonio_robotgeek: don't mind everything is still kde ;)12:38
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robotgeekTonio_: heh12:39
Tonio_you can start without my specific settings for sure12:39
robotgeekTonio_: most of it is done, I'm not touching stuff with KDE documentation12:40
jarlathJust installed kubuntu.  A clean install and my wireless network card and everything works perfect! :)12:40
Tonio_robotgeek: what formats are you working on ? could be interesting to let the documentation easy to translate12:40
robotgeekTonio_: i'm with the documentation team, and we are using docbook12:40
Tonio_jarlath: even wifi ? wow........ lucky guy ;)12:40
robotgeekjarlath: great!12:40
Tonio_robotgeek: perfect ;)12:40
robotgeekTonio_: i got my airport extreme to work in dapper12:40
jarlathThanks, I'm extatic!12:40
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Tonio_robotgeek: did you notice klamav is packaged for dapper ?12:41
robotgeekTonio_: hmm, actually i don't use a windows machine, so i havent installed a antivirus ever!12:42
Tonio_could be interesting put a notice on it, because ms windows users coming onto linux are searching for an antivirus software, before understanding that's not usefull :)12:42
robotgeekTonio_: funniest are when you get popups to check for spyware!12:43
Tonio_robotgeek: hehe12:43
jarlathhehe, yes with ms style gui.12:43
Tonio_anyway, I think the antivirus is important for the dualbooting people :)12:43
Tonio_should be interesting to put a note on the documentation on that point12:44
Tonio_agree ?12:44
robotgeekTonio_: yes, good idea12:44
heanolis amarok supposed to use 20-60% cpu while playing?12:44
Tonio_the package is klamav, and is maintained by your servant12:44
Tonio_;)12:44
robotgeekheanol: nope12:44
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Tonio_heanol: nope, absolutly not, but that happens with buggy version sometime....12:45
Tonio_heanol: what version do you use ?12:45
robotgeekTonio_: as long as it installs, and appears in the menu, it will document it12:45
heanol3.5.112:45
robotgeekheanol: and what engine?12:45
Tonio_robotgeek: it is in universe, so has to be installed manually........12:45
Tonio_cause it is not installed by default........12:45
heanoli was using xine-engine but now i tried switching to gstreamer12:45
heanolnow it seems to be stable at 15%12:45
robotgeekTonio_: sure, i'll find it and document it12:46
Tonio_and not usefull anyway for regular full linux users12:46
robotgeekheanol: initially it might be high as it scans for files and stuff. also turning of the last.fm stuff helps12:46
Tonio_heanol: gstreamer is a pain at the moment, you really should use xine, or even arts engine12:46
heanol15% still sounds much12:46
heanolTonio_: yeah i've noticed. kaffeine is unusable :/12:46
isodudeargh12:46
Tonio_heanol: yep12:46
robotgeekkmplayer is very nice :)12:46
Tonio_kubuntu had lots of bugs be default12:46
Tonio_heanol: actuvate the backports repos12:47
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isodudewht about this that vlc quits whenever one tries to play .img / .iso12:47
Tonio_update, and you'll get a perfect kaffeine :)12:47
robotgeekisodude: vlc shouldn't be opening those files12:47
Tonio_heanol: the stable dapper version has been backported to breezy cause kaffeine is horrible in it....12:47
isodudedoes in windows =)12:47
robotgeekisodude: hmm, interesting12:48
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isodudeanyhow, tried to mount those files via losetup , but vlc wouldn't take that as a device eiter12:48
isodudeeither12:48
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isodudeended up with mounting it and playing the .vob files12:49
isodudethe files are dvd images12:49
robotgeekk12:49
isodudebut if one mounts it via losetup.. that must work must not it?12:49
Tonio_robotgeek: kmplayer is very nice, but when stable, kaffeine is really fantastic too12:49
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robotgeekTonio_: i just compiled kmplayer in breezy, otherwise used to use kaffeine12:50
heanolTonio_: yeah kaffeine works much better :) thanks12:51
heanol*better now12:51
jeroenvrphow to get apt's default settings back (sources.list, apt.conf, etc) ? dpkg-reconfigure apt doesnt work12:51
Tonio_jeroenvrp: dunno an automatic process.....12:54
Tonio_anyway, you can get the deb, rename it to tgz, then take the files manually in it....12:54
jeroenvrpTonio_: there must be a better way, I did it once, but somehow I dont know anymore12:54
robotgeekjeroenvrp: apt-get source apt12:55
robotgeekthat might work12:55
jeroenvrpE: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list12:56
jeroenvrpI dont have those off course12:56
Tonio_robotgeek: ho, I didn't thought about that.......12:56
robotgeekjeroenvrp: you need deb-src in your sources.list12:56
jeroenvrprobotgeek: yeah I knw :-)12:57
robotgeekheh12:57
robotgeekTonio_: i just added to your idea12:57
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jeroenvrprobotgeek: Tonio_01:00
jeroenvrpno config files in there01:01
_tijnhi all01:01
_tijnis there something like a "packages.kubuntu.org" ?01:03
robotgeek_tijn: no it's just packages.ubuntu.com01:03
_tijnah :D ok thnx01:04
_tijngonna find me some w32codecs :D01:04
robotgeekTonio_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8482 is a nasty bug in konqueror, not a screenshot01:04
robotgeeki meant the link is a screenshot01:04
robotgeekubotu: tell _tijn about w32codecs01:05
_tijnheej thnx :D01:05
Tonio_robotgeek: argh.........01:06
robotgeekthat is after i say increase text size01:06
Tonio_okay let me check01:07
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Tonio_robotgeek: no bugs for me01:08
jarlathAmarok cant play mp3s by default?01:08
Tonio_jarlath: ubuntu can't...01:08
robotgeekTonio_: dapper?01:09
Tonio_robotgeek: same, ubuntu never will01:09
Tonio_robotgeek: ho excuse me, no breezy :)01:09
Tonio_and no bugs for me01:09
jarlathIs there a workaround?01:09
robotgeekTonio_: i am on dapper, i presumed you were on dapper01:09
robotgeekjeroenvrp, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:09
robotgeekjarlath, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:09
Tonio_jarlath: it is explained about 10 000 times on the ubuntuforums, and there is a wiki page that explains this...01:10
Tonio_robotgeek: nope, I use breezy only01:10
robotgeekTonio_: hmm, okay. my bad01:10
jarlathokay, thanks. Im looking at the unoficcial faq and dont see it, thats why I asked.01:10
Tonio_raphink: you are on dapper, can you confirm robotgeek's bug ???01:10
raphinkI'm not on dapper :p01:11
Tonio_hu ? you changed ?01:11
robotgeekheh, i'll put it up on launchpad , i guess01:11
raphinkben non je suis  paris01:11
Tonio_robotgeek: maybe needs one confirmation before..... can be a local problem only01:11
robotgeekTonio_: true01:11
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Tonio_robotgeek: you'll get confirmation today :)01:12
robotgeekTonio_: ah, thanks!01:12
jeroenvrpthe problem is that i dont ahve an apt.conf01:13
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robotgeeki need to provide confirmation  a few other bugs as closed01:13
Tonio_jeroenvrp: wait01:13
Tonio_jeroenvrp: no apt.conf.d directory ?01:14
jeroenvrpTonio_: yes I have, but there should also be a apt.conf file01:14
robotgeekjeroenvrp: there's an example one in /usr/share/doc/apt01:14
_tijngonna restart x, cya all! :D01:14
Tonio_jeroenvrp: nope, I don't have too personnaly ;)01:14
jeroenvrpI don't the example one :-) , I want the defasult one01:15
jeroenvrpdefault one01:15
jeroenvrpTonio_: and if you do locate apt.conf01:15
robotgeekjeroenvrp: i think it's blank, i'll check up01:15
Tonio_jeroenvrp: I don't have an apt.conf file either, juste apt.conf.d folder01:15
jeroenvrpTonio_: and are there two files in apt.conf.d folder01:15
Tonio_jeroenvrp: yep01:15
jeroenvrpok strange01:16
Tonio_nope, normal I think ;)01:16
robotgeekjeroenvrp: i don't have one, lol01:16
jeroenvrpTonio_: robotgeek : and if you do apt-config dump | grep Period | grep Lists01:16
jeroenvrpgives it output?01:17
robotgeekjeroenvrp: no01:17
jeroenvrpaha01:17
Tonio_no01:17
jeroenvrpso it's not me , pffff01:17
jeroenvrpare you two one dapper?01:18
robotgeeki am on dapper, and on breezy too (another machine)01:18
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jeroenvrpI ask01:19
jeroenvrpthere is a default config option: APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1" , that makes sure apt-get update is done every night01:19
jeroenvrptehre should be01:20
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landerrocan I use my 5.1-surround system on kubuntu?01:31
heanoljeroenvrp: there's a cron-apt package01:31
jeroenvrpheanol: yes I know, but it nees that default01:32
heanolthat feels a little out of place for apt, imo.01:32
heanolapt is a util, not a daemon :)01:32
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_guiguihow can i find the french irc?01:38
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guigui_how can i join the french irc?01:40
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guigui_who can hsay me ?01:40
raphinkguigui_: /join #kubuntu-fr01:42
guigui_thanks how can i01:43
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`Nomad_Awayguigui_:  Es-tu toujours l?02:08
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jkelly2005i need some help with setting up eth0. i done sudo route add default gw 192.168.100.1 and the connection now works but if i restart the computer, it doesnt. how do i make kubuntu remember my changes for sudo route add default gw 192.168.100.1?02:27
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PupenoI can't get linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-[36] 86, any ideas why ? It is not in any repository I checked.02:34
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bert_Anyone got Klik working in KDE 3.5.1?02:37
Pupenoit is wierd because it is listed on packages.ubuntu.com. Is it possible that it didn't reach the mirrors ? any particulary up-to-date mirror that I could try ?02:38
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visik7what's klik '02:46
visik7?02:46
bert_I can't see Klik in packages.ubuntu.com02:47
visik7me too02:47
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bert_Try http://klik.atekon.de/02:48
raphinkthere's no reason why klik would be in packages.ubuntu.com02:50
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raphinksince it's made to be apart from installable packages02:50
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Togehello02:52
bert_hello02:52
Togedo you know ide-cd ASPI error?02:52
Togecan I repair it?02:52
TogeI tried to install kubuntu in portable pc02:53
visik7anyone got a gpg storing key server ?02:53
visik7lik gpg.mit.edu ?02:53
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tchizeyou mean the url of a gpg jey server or the package to create you own private enterprise server?02:54
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visik7tchize: a url of a gpg key server03:03
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srdjantHi. Is there any place I can get X.org 6.9/7.0 pre-compiled for Kubuntu?03:07
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tchizevisik7 keyserver.kjsl.com03:07
visik7I try03:08
tchizehttp://www.ch.pgp.net/pgpnet/wwwkeys.html#ch03:08
tchizeit's just a personal site referencing some public key servers :)03:08
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paineshi03:09
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painesi just installed dapper flight 3, upgraded everything. amarok-xine doesn't play mp3's. in the past i just needed to install libmad0, but this isn't doing the trick anymore. any ideas for this ?03:10
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visik7check the engine03:18
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visik7libmad0 is for xine backend03:18
visik7are u using xine backend03:18
visik7?03:18
painesi just foundit. i needed to install libxine1c203:18
painesthanks man03:18
visik7:)03:18
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DevGetis*03:21
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UFO!skype 64bit03:22
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, UFO03:22
UFO!skype03:22
ubotusomebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/03:22
UFOenyone got skypw03:23
UFOskype 64bit howto?03:23
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UFOi cant get the skype working?03:23
UFOdoes enyone know howto get working at 64bit?03:24
skypagreetings03:24
TogeGentoo 2005.1 Universal install CD or Gentoo 2005.1 Package CD? what should I download to install gentoo? package requires universal version first, isnt it?03:24
UFOThe universal03:25
hatake_kakashiToge: why ask gentoo question in kubuntu? :P03:26
Togeups, confusion03:26
Togethanks ufo03:27
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visik7this is #kubuntu or #gentoo ?03:27
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UFOI have to say the gentoo USE flags are real pain in the ass...03:28
Togesorry, I typed in wrong channel03:28
UFOBut the source based installation is intresting.03:28
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srdjantHi. Is there any place I can get X.org 6.9/7.0 pre-compiled for Kubuntu?03:34
ubijtsaUFO: nothing stops you recompiling kubuntu from source ;)03:34
ubijtsasrdjant: in dapper perhaps?03:34
ubijtsasrdjant: if you want it in Breezy, you are most likely out of luck.. IIRC, it will not be back-ported.03:35
srdjantWhat is dapper?03:35
vega-srdjant: the next release of ubuntu03:35
ubijtsasrdjant: next version of Kubuntu, 6.0403:35
srdjantoh03:35
srdjanti have 5.1003:36
ubijtsaBreezy is 5.1003:36
ubijtsa:)03:36
srdjantBadger :)03:36
srdjantdarn, ok. thanks. I'll go back to slackware and try X 6.9 then.03:36
ubijtsasrdjant: you can add the dapper repos and install it that way03:37
srdjantI'm trying to get this Xgl stuff working. I was impressed by the video demos.03:37
ubijtsasomeone on the mailing list did that03:37
srdjantWould it be 'safe'?03:37
ubijtsaIMHO - no03:37
srdjanthah, ok.03:37
ubijtsabut he managed to get it working03:37
hatake_kakashisrdjant: may as well compile it yourself03:37
visik7xgl isn't safe itself03:37
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srdjantI compiled it last night for slackware, not just installed it. Need to do it carefully so that I backup the current X install.03:38
srdjantbut xgl looks nice :)03:38
ubijtsalots of stuff looks nice03:39
ubijtsaI'd like Composite, DRI, GL and Xinerama all together, but that ain't happening yet03:39
srdjanthow come?03:39
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ubijtsathe closed nVidia drivers can do Composite and GL at the same time, but that is experimental03:40
skypait works quite nicely for me actually03:40
skypaalthough I used to use the proprietary xinerama-ripoff twinview03:40
ubijtsaDRI and Xinerama is mutually exclusive..03:40
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tchizelol, is there a way to prevent ubuntu from copying all install cd package from cd to hdd during install process?03:41
srdjantyou can't get DRI on nvidia closed drivers anyway03:41
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visik7tchize: install in server mode03:41
vega-Al-Daja: nobody cares03:41
tchizewell it's a desktop computer not a server03:41
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tchizeif it is installing packages it's ok03:41
Al-Dajalololol vega- ok03:42
srdjantWhen you talk about Composite, is that the composite video output on the card, or some X extension name a bit like Damage?03:42
tchizebut it is just copying to have them at end, it's a problem, cause the partition is only 4g :)03:42
ubijtsasrdjant: Composite is the stuff for the alpha channel03:42
srdjantah ok03:42
vega-Al-Daja: if everyone used public away etc. this channel wouldn't have room for real messages03:43
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hatake_kakashiand it would be annoying too03:43
Al-Dajavega oukidouki sorry it's normal standard to me, i promise you next time i don't put away in here, can be?03:44
ubijtsaComposite is a bit slow still, I have tried it now and then, but usually switch it off soon after03:44
srdjantWell I hope I won't need composite for xgl then.03:44
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ubijtsadon't thinx you will03:45
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ubijtsas/x/k/03:45
srdjantgreat :)03:45
visik7btw to get the desktop demo of novell u need xgl and compiz03:45
visik7not just xgl03:45
srdjantcompiz?03:45
srdjantstrange, the 'o', 'm' and 'p' get mashed together in my irc client :(03:46
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visik7uh ?03:47
srdjantmust be some weird thing with the fonts03:47
UFOdo i really have to install 32bit version for skype?03:47
visik7there is only a 32bit version of skype03:48
monteiroi cant find xorg-dev to compile themes for kde, anyone knows which is the exact package to install ?03:49
visik7monteiro: probably libx11-dev03:49
srdjantright, i'm off to slackware to try to install x.org03:50
srdjantbye03:50
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monteirovisik7: tks03:51
monteirovisik7: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! -> this is the error03:53
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visik7xlibs-dev03:53
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robotgeek!xincludes03:54
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev03:55
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Unoubuntu = gedit... kbunutu=?04:00
visik7kate04:00
visik7?04:00
hatake_kakashiUno: there's kedit04:01
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monteiro!qt04:02
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package04:02
tchizeIs there a graphical tool to manage installation in kubuntu?04:03
visik7is there for ubuntu ?04:03
hatake_kakashitchize: yes, you can see it when you load the cd and press enter when cd is booted04:03
visik7adept ?04:04
visik7or the sys installation ?04:04
hatake_kakashiI think tchize means sys installation04:04
tchizeneed to add aditional packages :)04:04
tchizeok so i put cd and that all?04:04
hatake_kakashiwell what visik7 said above.. adept04:05
hatake_kakashithere's also aptitude04:05
visik7aptitude is for console04:05
UFOor synaptic04:05
tchizewell all i see i cd content04:05
tchizeno manager app04:06
tchizemm adept is probably what i was looking for :)04:06
hatake_kakashi!adpet04:07
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi04:07
hatake_kakashi!adept04:07
ubotuit has been said that adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:07
Unohow do i restart a daemon04:09
hatake_kakashivisik7: its easy to use though, its not like you need to do alot of typing04:09
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hatake_kakashiUno: /etc/init.d/<name of daemon> restart04:09
antlarrhi04:09
visik7hatake_kakashi: i like typing04:09
Unohow do i use konqueror make use of samba also04:09
visik7uno: smb://ip/share04:09
hatake_kakashivisik7: so do I, hence I use apt-get most of the time rather than adept/synaptic/aptitude04:09
visik7there's a wiki for this kind of thinks04:09
hatake_kakashi!samba04:09
ubotuit has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently04:09
visik7hatake_kakashi: i don't use adept/synaptic04:10
visik7hatake_kakashi: I'm not the one who ask for these tools04:10
antlarrI'm installing kubuntu for the first time (expert mode). When asking the kernel I want to use, I have three options: linux-386, linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-38604:10
antlarrwhat's the difference?04:10
hatake_kakashivisik7: so you either use apt-get or aptitude? :)04:10
visik7why u select expert if u are not an expert ?04:10
Unovisik7: what if i want to look at computers in workgroup04:10
visik7hatake_kakashi: apt-get most the time04:10
hatake_kakashiantlarr: linux-386, it includes all04:10
visik7aptitude sometime but from cli not using ncurses iface04:11
hatake_kakashivisik7: heh, ncruses seems to run abit slower when on konsole though04:11
tchizewow adept seems very nice :)04:11
visik7hatake_kakashi: I really don't undestand the behaviour of ncurses iface04:11
antlarrhatake_kakashi: thanks, I'll do that, but still, I wonder what's the difference :)04:12
visik7of aptitude04:12
monteiro!headers04:12
ubotumonteiro: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:12
Unogot it04:13
Unosmb:\\\04:13
hatake_kakashiantlarr: linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-386 are pointing to specific ones, you only have one choice anyway, choosing any of those are pretty much the same04:13
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hatake_kakashivisik7: heh, compiling kernels requires ncurses, lynx (I think) as well as elinks requires ncurses04:14
hatake_kakashiUno: you may need smbclient04:14
antlarrhatake_kakashi: ok, thanks04:15
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visik7hatake_kakashi: what we are talkin' about ?04:15
hatake_kakashivisik7: ahh, we are talking about ncurses now, but nm :)04:16
visik7:)04:16
dutchhow come I keep getting a cookie request from fridge.ubuntu.com ?  what program is running that does that ??04:16
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DaillewHi Everyone04:17
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dutchI'll try later..gotta go04:20
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monteirowhich package is the kde headers ?04:21
visik7kdelibs4-dev04:23
monteirotks :)04:23
visik7install apt-file04:23
visik7and use it04:23
monteirook04:23
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_slashhi guys04:31
_slashhow do I disable time synchronize on bootup?04:31
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m_tadeuhi everyone...when I use unrar it just deletes me the file. whats wrong?04:33
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bohaanyone here?04:52
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luisitohello04:59
_juliangrub?04:59
luisitoanybody can tell wich one is better: openoffice or koffice?05:00
luisitoanybody can tell me which one is better: openoffice or koffice?05:00
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claydohwell, Openoffice has more widespread use, but my wife prefers Koffice as it is a little simpler05:03
claydohtry both and see what you think05:04
Daillewi use open office on both kubuntu and windows, i have office xp but prefer open office, its very good05:05
luisitooks05:06
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lkmhi05:18
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cristianhola05:18
cristianalgun chileno XD05:18
lkm is there anyone knows why did my GL Screensaver just shows half of my05:18
lkm screen05:18
m_tadeuis there a way to recover a file deleted with unlink?05:19
jarlathI followed the wiki for adding sources, and I see that some of them have 'hoary-extras'. Since I'm using Breezy, am I right in thinking that they shouldnt be there?05:19
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UFOUuuhhh... this kubuntu/ubuntu life....05:21
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UFOwhy cant they get simple things to work properly05:22
CheeseBurgerManSuch as...05:22
UFOwlan... display....05:23
CheeseBurgerManMy display and wlan work fine.05:23
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: have tryed SuSE. Ubuntu is far away...05:23
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: Yes it works but its really buggy... if i shut down the wlan from the switch on my laptop, its difficult to get work again.05:25
CheeseBurgerManYes, I've noticed that.05:25
CheeseBurgerManAlthough I very rarely shut down my wlan.05:25
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CheeseBurgerManPresario V2000?05:26
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: Yes same here, but i noticed this when my son got hand on the switch :)05:26
CheeseBurgerManlol05:26
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: No i got fujitsu 1667g05:27
CheeseBurgerManWell, Windows won't detect my wireless network at all, so I consider Kubuntu doing pretty well.05:27
CheeseBurgerManoh05:27
CheeseBurgerManI do remember the display problems, but I didn't mind it 'cause it helped me get comfortable in the shell. ;)05:28
jarlathIs adept now preferred over synaptic? I see synaptic mentioned in the FAQ, but I dont have it.05:29
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: But i really hate the rpm system, and the closed source idea on linux, Probably Xandros could be quite usefull05:29
UFOjarlath: adept is quite close synaptic05:29
jarlaththanks UFO.05:30
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: And why wont they do ubuntu or kubuntu to use debian repository an only kubuntu related files on their own repos...05:31
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: or ubuntu offcource05:31
CheeseBurgerManI use Kubuntu05:31
CheeseBurgerManBut...I haven't a clue.05:32
UFOCheeseBurgerMan: after few years they got with deb packages same problem wich is for rpm... suse package wont work on redhat05:33
UFOand now debian package or ubuntu packages are doing allmost same05:34
jarlathapt-get update fails on me. I get this error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/549906 Can anyone help?05:34
jarlathI'm running kubuntu breezy by the way.05:35
jarlathI dont understand why all these servers are being used in the fisrt place. I only have about 8 uncommented in my sources.list. The FAQ doesnt go into any detail either.05:37
UFOyou should get the cdrom away from /etc/apt/sources.list05:38
jarlaththanks UFO, just did that05:38
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jarlathIt still hangs at the same point though.. (well, not hanging, but stalls and gives an error)05:38
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UFOand are you using the kde update repository for kubuntu?05:38
jarlatherm...Ill post my sources05:38
UFOyou need to get the key with wget...05:39
Elsan_YAY! Google maps now works with Konqueror!!!!05:39
jarlathI did that actually. Its in the FAQ.05:39
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Elsan_Thanks then :)05:40
ubijtsaElsan_: when did it not work?\05:40
UFOjarlath: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php05:41
jarlathElsan, sorry, crossed wires - I was speaking to UFO05:41
Elsan_Oh lol :p05:41
Elsan_ubijitsa: Always, Flickr did not work at all before, had to load firefox05:41
jarlathUFO, I followed that too. I put in the source, but I commented it out until I sort out this problem. As it stands, adept wont install any software whatsoever.05:41
ubijtsaElsan_: hmm, worked for me in KDE 3.4.305:42
ubijtsaalso worked in 3.5 and now it 3.5.105:42
Elsan_Never worked for me05:42
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Elsan_Frappr does't work still :(05:43
ubijtsaokidoki..05:43
UFO!pastebin05:43
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)05:43
UFOjarlath: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/849605:45
UFOjarlath: there is my sources.list05:45
UFObut offcource it got few finnish sources...05:46
jarlathThanks UFO. I dont mind going the extra few miles if it works :)05:47
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tchizeI need some information on ubuntu install on raid system05:49
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tchizei have 3 raids on my computer . One is made for boot, one is made for / and the other very big one is not supposed to be mounted by ubuntu for now. (in fact it contains a big lvm)05:50
tchizei try to have kubuntu install install on the 2 first raid partitions05:50
tchizehowever, despite the fact i don't touch the third raid05:51
tchizeit says it will change partition table on raid device 3 :s05:51
UFOAre they software raid or hardware raid05:52
tchizesofware raid05:52
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UFOif software are they on same fysical disk?05:52
tchizethey spread05:52
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tchize2 disks05:53
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UFOyes but the 3rd partition is on same disks as 2 first ones...05:53
tchizefirst raid is for /boot, it's a raid1 spread across those hdd partitions. second raid is a raid0 spread accros 2 partition. third raid is a raid0 spread accros 2 partition. All thos on 2 hdd which are symmetrical in configuration05:54
tchizethat is each read device uses a bit of both disks05:54
UFOyes you have alter partition table for all partition becouse they alla are on same fysicaldisks05:54
UFOpartition tables are written on both disks05:55
tchizeit says i will alter partition inside my third raid (that is where my lvm is stored) it mention nothing about the 2 other raids :s05:55
tchizei fear it detroy my lvm05:55
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tchizeto be clear, i don't want ubuntu to alter any partition table, the dissks and raids are already partitionned05:56
tchizei just want to tell ubuntu install yourself on raid device 1 and raid device 205:57
tchizebut it says he will alter raid device 3 :s05:57
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UFOhmm.. be carefull i cant really say but it can be it changes the partition number only and not data.....05:57
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tchizeno it really states 'the partition table on following device will be modified' and mantion RAID0 N3. If it puts a partition table there, my lvm is dead05:59
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tchizehuhoo06:00
tchizethis is worse then i thought06:00
tchizeit detected a raid device too much :s06:01
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Snake__Can someone here tell me why IRC Freezes my net?06:07
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abutany kommander freak here ?06:08
tchizeYeahhh06:08
tchize'Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/md/3p1 - Invalid argument.06:09
abutcould you have a look at : http://rafb.net/paste/results/PJ3Iis66.html and tell me what the problem is please ?06:09
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brexelabut: i have no idea which language this is but could it be that in line 2 you should use == instead of = ?06:13
mortenhey, i have a problem with azureus, i can only start it as root. does anyone know what i can do so that i can start it without goin in konsole and write sudo /path/to/azureus ?06:13
gammain kde.. i know it's possible to hold a file over a directory to change to that directory, but is it possible to go up a directory while holding a file?06:13
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tchizemorten: install it as a user :)06:14
abutbrexel, line 2 is bash script so that can't be06:14
abutbrexel, this is kommander: weird thing .... powerful but not documented :( thanks for your help06:14
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mortentchize: i only extracted a tar.bz2 archive with azureus, i havent installed it as root.06:16
tchizemorten: strange. Why does it requires root?06:17
tchizedid you get any message in console when running as user?06:17
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tchizealso what does echo $JAVA_HOME says when in user mode? and what does it says when in root ?06:18
mortentchize: yes, i get an error message, but i dont know what it means06:18
tchizemorten send the message :)06:18
mortensend the error i get when i try to start azureus as user?06:19
tchizeyes06:19
brexel:)06:19
mortenStarting Azureus...06:19
mortenJava exec found in PATH. Verifying...06:19
mortenSuitable java version found [java = 1.5.0_06] 06:19
mortenConfiguring environment...06:19
mortenLoading Azureus:06:19
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mortenjava -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp "/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/Azureus2.jar:/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/swt.jar:/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/swt-mozilla.jar:/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/swt-pi.jar" -Djava.library.path="/home/morten/Desktop/azureus" -Dazureus.install.path="/home/morten/Desktop/azureus" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main ''06:19
mortenException in thread "main" java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "1,2"06:19
meta!firefox1.506:19
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:19
morten        at sun.misc.FloatingDecimal.readJavaFormatString(Unknown Source)06:19
morten        at java.lang.Double.parseDouble(Unknown Source)06:20
morten        at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationChecker.checkConfiguration(ConfigurationChecker.java:328)06:20
tchizeok stop06:20
morten        at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.initialise(ConfigurationManager.java:88)06:20
morten        at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.getInstance(ConfigurationManager.java:46)06:20
morten        at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.initialise(COConfigurationManager.java:41)06:20
morten        at com.aelitis.azureus.core.impl.AzureusCoreImpl.<init>(AzureusCoreImpl.java:102)06:20
morten        at com.aelitis.azureus.core.impl.AzureusCoreImpl.create(AzureusCoreImpl.java:67)06:20
morten        at com.aelitis.azureus.core.AzureusCoreFactory.create(AzureusCoreFactory.java:46)06:20
morten        at org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.<init>(Main.java:35)06:20
morten        at org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main(Main.java:100)06:20
mortenAzureus TERMINATED.06:20
tchizeremove ~/.azureus of the user account06:20
brexelyep06:20
brexelyour cfg is broken06:20
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tchizeprobably an azureus crash when saving config :)06:21
tchizejust remove the config and azureus will think it is the first time it starts :)06:21
tchizehohooo06:22
tchizeanother thing you might try instead of removing06:22
tchizechange your locale :)06:22
mortenthanks, it works fine now:D06:22
tchizeseems your azureus config was writtent with a french locale (1,2) while you probably are in an english locale now (should be 1.2)06:22
hatake_kakashimorten: ffs use pastebin06:23
mortenhatake_kakashi, pastebin?06:23
hatake_kakashi!pastebin06:23
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)06:23
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mortenhatake_kakashi, okey, i will remember that next time:)06:25
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antlarrwhat firewall do you recommend for kubuntu?06:29
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antlarrI'm used to SuSEfirewall, which works quite well and most important, it's _easy_ to configure06:30
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visik7antlarr: why do u abandon it ?06:38
UFOantlarr: have you tryed webmin packages there is allmost everything you need to conf your system.06:40
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meta!s306:43
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, meta06:43
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metaanybody have notebook with integrated s3 graphics system?06:43
metaplease help me about drivers..06:43
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asranielhi there, is it normal that i dont have /etc/ld.so.conf ?? if yes,where is that file=06:44
UFOmeta: try using vesa drivers, you dont problably need 3d06:44
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metavesa?06:44
metawhat is vesa?06:45
UFOmeta: like vga or svga06:45
ehjayAny idea why /dev/cdrom has root user and group ownership and how I can fix that? k3b can't access my writer (using kubuntu breezy)06:45
UFOmeta: standard06:45
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Flosofthey06:45
Flosoftwhy isn't java working anymore?06:45
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meta!java06:46
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:46
meta:)06:46
metahmm i found in adept06:46
metaxserver-xorg-driver-vesa06:46
Flosoftwell me 206:46
meta(installed) sorry for flooding06:46
Flosoftand it worked b406:46
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Flosoftbut then there was an update of it ... and now I can't get it back to work06:46
metai dunno...06:47
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Flosofthow can I check if it is installed?06:48
tchizewhy same kubuntun install on 2 different computer brings, just after first startup , big visual differences? Font are big and bold on one computer and at a regular size on the other :/06:48
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ehjaytchize: are your displays different resolution?06:49
Flosofthttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54999306:49
FlosoftI installed 1.5 following Synaptic06:49
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boha--> help -->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i844306:50
bohai get this on screen when i boot live cd06:50
ehjaytchize: grep DPI /var/log/Xorg.0.log - make sure the DPI (dots per inch) matches the size and res of your monitor)06:50
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tchizeok06:51
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tchize*outch*06:51
tchizeDPI set to 104,113 that's curious value06:51
ehjaytchize: I had a similar issue.  My laptop display is 15.4 in 1900x1200 and my desktop is 19 in 1280x1024.  I had to manually set the DPI to get things reasonable06:52
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tchizewhe do you set dpi? in kdm?06:52
ehjaytchize: I editied /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:53
ehjaytchize: I don't know if there is a gui for setting it06:53
tchizeam pretty sure06:53
tchizethere is none :)06:53
ehjaytchize: under Section Monitor you need to add a line like "DisplaySize  number number"  where the numbers are the width and height of you monitor in mm.06:54
BlueDevilhow do i turn the caps lock off?06:54
BlueDevillogged in via VNC06:54
bohaehjay?06:54
ehjayboha: yes?06:55
bohacheck this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i844306:55
bohai get this on screen when i boot live cd06:55
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ehjayboha: what am I looking at?06:56
bohamy screen :D06:56
tchizeehjay: a big crach of livecd? :)06:56
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bohai get this on screen when i boot live cd06:56
ehjayboha: uhhh, it looks nice?06:56
bohaand then nothing happen06:56
ehjayboha: got me there...06:57
boha?06:57
tchizedo you have an usb ide device?06:57
aladdshey, i just installed kubuntu on my pc, and i enabled the universe repositories and did 'apt-get update' but it's updating very slowly and the mouse moves very sluggishly06:57
bohai pulled out al usb things06:57
tchizeboha: could you go in bios and deactivate usb?06:58
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bohahmm i will try06:58
bohaso, do yo thing usb is the problem?06:58
tchizeanyway this is worth a bug report :)06:58
ehjaytchize: what's that?06:59
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tchizeusb_hcd_irq  : something is wrond handling you usb by the kernel, probably a kernel bug06:59
aladdswhen i go to the console i get some kind of error relating to irq 1106:59
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aladdstchize: i believe i am having that exact problem07:00
tchizeehjay: is it a recent motherboard?07:00
aladdsusb_hcd_irq07:00
aladdsusbcore07:00
ehjaytchize: are you asking someone else that question?07:01
aladds"irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)"07:01
aladdsthat message is being repeated over and over again07:01
tchizenope, only talking to you ehjay. But when a stack trace gets out of kernel it's nothing good :)07:01
ehjaytchize: I don't have any problems besides wondering how /dev/cdrom gets assigned root ownership on boot07:02
UFOhave anyone tryed to install kubuntu over network07:02
tchizealadds: that mean somehardware is sending 'answers' to irq11, but kernel don't know what to do with it because no driver did claim this irq07:02
aladdsah07:03
aladdsso, what can i do?07:03
tchizediscover what is the faulty hardware :)07:03
aladdshow can i work out what irq 11 is?07:03
aladdsi have a PnP BIOS07:03
aladds:/07:03
tchizealadds: that's the problem, even the kernel was unable to work it out :)07:04
ehjayaladds: lspci is a good start07:04
aladdshmm07:04
aladdsok07:04
ehjayaladds: looks like lscpi doesn't give interrupt info07:04
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aladds:/07:05
ehjayaladds: cat /proc/itnerrupts07:05
ehjayexcept spell it right :)07:05
aladdslol07:05
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aladdsaaaah!!!07:06
aladdsi cannot get to a shell, they all have the error over and over07:06
tchizetextmode shelles?07:06
aladdsyeah07:06
tchizeuse a graphical one07:06
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aladdsi would07:07
ehjayaladds: is that aaaah!! as in surprise and alarm?07:07
aladdsyes07:07
aladds:p07:07
tchizeso it's not aaaaaaah as 'gotcha'07:07
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tchizealadds:   alt-f2 in graphical mode and type xterm07:08
antlarrvisik7: I abandones SuSEfirewall because I installed kubuntu :) and the other one is specific for SuSE (although it's based on iptables, so it should work too if it's installed correctly)07:11
antlarrUFO: I don't want a complete webmin installation to configure iptables correctly on my laptop...07:11
visik7antlarr: I mean why do u have abandoned suse ?07:12
antlarrah07:12
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UFOantlarr: you could install shorewall and use that from webmin07:13
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antlarrI'm still using suse in my normal computer, but I had to reinstall it on my notebook and since I have a bunch of kubuntu CDs to give away at a conference next week, I thought it would be more correct if I had kubuntu on my notebook to show it07:13
abda101hi all07:14
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antlarrI've been using suse since 1997, so I thought it was time to try something debian-based07:14
visik7antlarr: btw there is kmyfirewall (not provided by default anyway)07:14
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DevGetsince I  updated the flight3 cd install, the ndiswrapper module won't load, anyone with the same problem?07:15
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UFODevGet: ndiswrapper -m07:16
antlarrvisik7: ok, I'll try that07:16
DevGetUFO: I have tried that, and rebooted after, but it still doesn't load the module...07:16
visik7antlarr: www.kde-apps.org reported a breezy package07:16
antlarrbtw, do you usually add other sources to the apt source list after installing a new kubuntu system?07:17
antlarrvisik7: thanks07:17
m0ns00nAnyone know if AMD 64 smp is stable now?07:17
visik7antlarr: editing /etc/apt/sources.list07:17
visik7ah07:17
visik7yes I do07:17
antlarrvisik7: :)07:17
visik7kde35107:17
visik7wine07:17
visik7plf07:18
antlarrcan you tell me the complete line in sources.list ?07:18
visik7of what ?07:18
antlarrto add wine, plf, etc.07:18
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visik7and obviously universe and multiverse07:18
antlarr(I already added kde351)07:18
UFODevGet: or add the ndiswrapper in /etc/modules file07:18
antlarruniverse was added by the installation application07:18
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visik7and amarok07:19
DevGetUFO: I have tried that too07:19
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UFOhmm... actually i had the same problem but cant remember what i did...07:19
DevGetUFO: are you also runing the unstable?07:20
UFODevGet: No i had it but it has the network bug so had to get rid of it07:20
UFODevGet: why unstable? test reason?07:20
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DevGetUFO: just for fun, I had som free space on the hard drive, so I run dualboot stable/unstable07:21
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visik7antlarr: http://pastebin.com/55002607:21
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visik7antlarr: this is my sources.list striped from useless stuff07:22
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visik7opera repo is useless since it provided by plf07:22
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antlarrvisik7: thanks a lot07:23
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NRG88hi, where can i set my default browser in KDE?07:24
NRG88i whould want to set firefox07:24
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=== aladds notices that irq 11 is used by his ethernet card and usb hub
kkathmanNRG88: kdecontrol, KDE components, Web Browser07:25
kkathmanoops sorry kcontrol, not KDE control :)07:25
Tm_Thi kids07:25
NRG88ok, thanks07:25
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kkathmanhi Tm_T :)07:25
NRG88hi Tm_T  :)07:25
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jarlathI (think I) have upgraded to kde3.5.1. Do I need to reboot or just log out for it to take effect?07:26
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visik7jarlath: logout and ctrl+alt+backspace to restart kd,m07:27
visik7jarlath: logout and ctrl+alt+backspace to restart kdm07:27
jarlaththanks visik7 !07:27
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Tm_Tvisik7: first logout...07:27
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Tm_Toh well, hope nothing bad happened ;)07:28
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cjnodellHello07:30
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cjnodellI have a question07:30
UFOcjnodell: tell07:30
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cjnodellI was thinking about using Kubuntu as opposed to ubuntu but have a question about wireless. Assuming i have already set up my wirles card using ndiswrapper, is there a gui in kubuntu like network-admin in ubuntu that i can use to connect my wirless card with?07:32
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UFOcjnodell: kde got everything gnome has and a bit more ;)07:33
Blissexcjnodell: kwifimanager usually07:33
cjnodellI have played around with kwifimanager, but have never gotten it to work07:34
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cjnodellthe wireless dose work when using network-admin in gnome. I could use the commandline, but i am trying to convince my family to switch and they hate the commandline07:36
UFOcjnodell: there is also network conf for network devices... kwifi manager handles the wifi networks if you got ie. home and work07:36
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cjnodellUnfortunatles my wifi card is a bit silly and i have to constantly deactivate the interface, disconect the adapter, reconnect the addapter, then reactivate the interface using network-admin. (it is a problem with the adapter, i have to do this in windows too). doing all this with the commandline is too much for my family07:38
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cjnodellok, where is the network conf utility?07:39
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_michahallo07:39
monteirohow do i now that the pendisk i've connected to the computer is working at usb 2.0 ?07:39
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apuhi all07:39
_michamein kde startet nicht mehr. wo kann ich da die fehlersuche beginnen?07:40
UFOcjnodell: system-settings--->network-settings07:40
apui have a problem with multiple users07:40
cjnodellI saw that when i was playing. I set up my home network on config 1 and made it default, and activated it. Kwifimanager says all is well and connected but no other apps (firefor kontact, so on) can acess the net07:40
apui've been created a second acc (this)07:40
cjnodellk, i iwll check it out07:40
apuand when i'm log in during the loading screen i ahve this error:07:40
aputitle: arts message07:40
UFOset the defaultgateway to wlan07:41
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UFOcjnodell: set the default gateway to wlan device07:41
apusound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver: device/dev/dsp can't be opened (perm. denied) The sound server will continue, using the null output device07:41
apuplease help me07:42
aladdstry setting it to automatic07:42
apuwhere?07:42
aladdscontrol center07:42
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UFOcjnodell: its in routes section of network conf07:43
apuwhere?07:43
aputhe sound, multimedia menu -> sound service and hardvare tab have a select sound device option07:43
apuand it setted to automatic07:43
aladdshmm07:44
cjnodellk. I went to system settings/internet &network/network settings and it says that i need to be root to make changes. i dont see a way to enable root mode... and no password was asked for07:44
apuit's not in english07:44
apualadds: any idea?07:45
aladdsyou installed it in english?07:45
apuno07:45
apu@ hungarian07:45
aladdsah07:45
aladdsok07:45
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UFOcjnodell: yep this is the wonderfull ubuntu option... :)07:45
apui need arts?07:46
aladdsdunno07:47
aladdsi use alsa07:47
aladdswhen it works07:47
aputhis problem is only with the second user07:47
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apuwith the first it works good.07:47
aladdshmm07:47
apuhmm07:48
apuand i can't start adept07:48
apuwith second user07:48
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UFOcjnodell: i use the kubuntu without the stupid sudo... this is the reason for the problem07:48
aladdsis it in group wheel?07:48
apuit asks the root pw07:48
aladdsor staff?07:48
apubut i don't know...07:48
apui don't know what is groups, i saw it07:48
apubut i don't know...07:49
aladdsin order to use sudo to get root, you need to be in group staff or wheel, or in the /etc/sudoers file07:49
aladdsiirc07:49
aladdsbut only edit the file with the visudo command07:49
apuin kcontrol system setting -> users  & groups?07:50
UFOcjnodell: if you want this, type sudo passwd and give first your password then two times new root password... and edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.rc and there allowrootlogin=true07:50
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aladdsyes07:50
aladdsbut you need to do it from the first account07:50
apuok, i'm go to the first07:50
apuyes..07:50
UFOcjnodell: then login to kde with your new root pass...07:50
aputhe first nick is meta or metamorfozis07:50
apui'm be back 1-2 minutes07:50
aputhx.07:50
cjnodellk, will give all that a try07:50
aladds:)07:50
epI run a java based application and I lose sound everwhere but within it.  Any idea, how to fix this?07:51
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MetaMorfoziSre07:51
cjnodellbye for now07:52
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Blissexep: almost surely it uses OSS compatibility mode, which is exclusive-open (that is, only one app at a time can use sound).07:52
MetaMorfoziSaladds: i saw this in my(meta) "secondary groups" list:07:54
MetaMorfoziSadm, admin, apu, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video07:54
epah07:54
MetaMorfoziSi'm add this to the "apu" account07:54
MetaMorfoziSit solute, i hope07:54
epnothing i can do but use another app then?07:54
Blissexep: well, various options: tell Java to use ALSA if possible, or a sound server, or disable exclusive open mode, ...07:56
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Blissexep: look under the sharing and OSS sections of this page: http://tinyurl.com/4ogk207:56
jscatanyone had any luck getting a creative webcam live pro running?07:57
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MetaMorfoziSit's not work07:59
aladdshmm08:00
MetaMorfoziSi'm can login to su with the second account08:00
MetaMorfoziSand the sound server isn't load...08:00
jarlathafter upgrading to kde3.5.1, I cannot install Kontact because it might 'break packages'. Did anyone else have this problem? Ihave added the 4 sources from here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php and I have the gpg keys.08:00
MetaMorfoziSi'm added the secondary groups08:00
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MetaMorfoziSok, i'm deleted the apu user08:02
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MetaMorfoziSexcept the /home/apu08:02
MetaMorfoziSpleasea nybody help me to create a really working second account08:02
MetaMorfoziSin kubuntu08:02
MetaMorfoziSin kcontrol users & groups08:02
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systHi!, Does any one know of any good news readers for Kubuntu?.(Like Grabbit & Newsleecher for Windows)08:03
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MetaMorfoziSakkregator?08:04
UFOMetaMorfoziS: what was your problem with the socond user08:04
MetaMorfoziSthe audio server can't load08:05
thehilhow do you switch to text mode (Ctrl+Alt+F1) by a command instead of keys?08:05
MetaMorfoziSit said permission denied...08:05
MetaMorfoziSand i can'T log in to su08:05
UFOMetaMorfoziS: was your user member of audio group?08:05
MetaMorfoziSi don't know08:05
MetaMorfoziSin this window a hundreds of group tab button and option08:05
MetaMorfoziSi don't know what i really need.08:05
UFOMetaMorfoziS: Ok....  here comes the solution to su problem...08:05
MetaMorfoziSi'm newbie08:06
MetaMorfoziSok08:06
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claudiuhello guys08:06
UFOMetaMorfoziS: Are you familiar with console08:06
MetaMorfoziS(my first is named meta and the second is named apu, for the easy naming)08:06
MetaMorfoziSa little.08:06
UFOMetaMorfoziS: type sudo passwd and give first your password and the two times your new root password...08:07
claudiucan anyone help me with this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7395108:07
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UFOMetaMorfoziS: after that edit in your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.rc allowrootlogin=true08:08
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MetaMorfoziSokay08:08
UFOMetaMorfoziS: after this you should be able to login to kde as root and su should be workin like in other distros08:08
MetaMorfoziSit's not found08:08
MetaMorfoziSthe ^^ configuration file08:09
MetaMorfoziScreate new?08:09
UFOMetaMorfoziS: sorry its kdmrc08:09
MetaMorfoziSyes08:09
MetaMorfoziSready08:10
MetaMorfoziSand then?08:10
MetaMorfoziSunder root acc log in and create the new account?08:10
UFOMetaMorfoziS: yes08:10
MetaMorfoziSthx, i'm back 1-2 minutes08:10
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carloshola08:12
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_rootre08:12
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MetaMorfoziSUFO, i'm deleted the "apu" user and i want to create the second "apu"08:13
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MetaMorfoziSwhat i need to write to the secondary group text field?08:13
Tonio_hi someone here has kde 3.5.0 ? I would like the confirmation of a bug ;)08:14
UFOMetaMorfoziS: set the groups like you have in you usual user account08:14
Unoi hv windows installed on the first partition, and i accidentally deleted the menu to enter windows in GRUB, how do if ix it?08:14
Tonio_I have it on 3.5.1, but I'd like to clearly identify the version of kde when it appeared08:14
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MetaMorfoziSok and then?08:15
carlos#kubuntu-es08:15
MetaMorfoziSin the groups tab?08:15
MetaMorfoziSi need to change anything?08:15
MetaMorfoziSis there 2 groups named on my two user account (meta and apu)08:15
UFOMetaMorfoziS: yes08:16
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Red_Herringwindows or linux?08:16
Red_Herringjk08:16
MetaMorfoziSUFO and what?08:16
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=== aladds is incredably annoyed that the resolution is limited to 1024x768
aladdshow do i change it in xorg?08:17
aladdsi'm used to xf86, but xorg doesnt seem to be the same08:17
MetaMorfoziS./etc/X11/xorg.conf08:17
aladdsright08:17
MetaMorfoziSyou need to set up right the freq-s08:18
Red_Herringi like "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:18
Red_Herringi hate editing xorg.conf, its way to confusing08:18
aladdsok08:18
MetaMorfoziS^^ not asks you about your horiz freq08:18
UFOMetaMorfoziS: set in the apu user everythin same as the meta user, exept the group with the user name08:18
MetaMorfoziS^^ ok08:18
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MetaMorfoziSok i try.08:19
MetaMorfoziSand pray:D08:19
Red_Herringw00t!08:19
MetaMorfoziSplug and pray:)08:19
Red_Herringgmail gave me google talk WITHIN gmail!08:19
Red_Herring:-D08:19
claudiuplssssss can anyone help me with this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7395108:19
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Red_Herringclaudiu: did you try to install it using aptitiude?08:20
Blissexclaudiu: yes, it is a package with incomplete dependencies.08:21
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UFOclaudiu: using dapper?08:21
slewhi, where is the link for the kde 3.5 public key?08:21
UFO!kde3.5.108:21
ubotuUFO: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:21
claudiuUFO: nope08:21
=== Al-Daja cya ppl
claudiuUFO: but i have some extra repositories08:22
jarlathslew: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php08:22
slewthanks.08:22
claudiuRed_Herring: the problem is it installed, but with that error : dbus-send not found08:22
Red_Herringhuh08:23
Red_Herringodd08:23
Red_Herringsorry that one is beyond me08:23
claudiuBlissex: and since then , every time i upgrade, it keeps showing up08:23
Unois there a wizard for setting up GRUB?08:23
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claudiuUFO: I think its going to be solved with the next upgrade08:24
UFOclaudiu: try dpkg-reconfigure avahi-utils08:24
Metait's not work, i'm trying, moment...08:24
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claudiuUFO: okay, ill try that, thanks08:24
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claudiuUFO: Package `avahi-utils' is not installed and no info is available.08:25
Red_Herringwhat is avahi?08:26
Red_Herring!avahi08:26
ubotuRed_Herring: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:26
Blissexclaudiu: it will continue to show up because every time APT will try to complete the install of any ''in-between'' packages.08:26
claudiuBlissex: maybe that avahi its not that necessary, its somehow related to zeroconf08:26
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MetaMorfoziSre08:27
MetaMorfoziSit's not work:(08:27
Pyrobobmy desktop managed to re-set itself to being 640x480 and I can't change it back. its my only option for some reason08:27
Pyrobobdoes anyone know how to fix this? it just kinda happened over a reboot08:28
Red_Herring!xorg.conf08:28
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring08:28
Red_Herringok08:28
Red_Herringeasy08:28
Red_Herring"sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:28
UFOMetaMorfoziS: does the meta user work like it should08:28
Red_Herringin the terminal08:28
Red_Herringkonsole08:28
Red_Herringwhatever08:28
MetaMorfoziSyes08:28
MetaMorfoziSis there any way to copy & rename it?08:29
aladdsFINALLY!!08:29
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BlissexPyrobob: regenerate the X configuration.08:29
PyrobobI saw08:29
Pyrobobsomeone said do that a second ago o.o08:29
BlissexPyrobob: full instructions in the Wiki. It is pretty easy.08:29
Pyrobobk08:29
aladdsit was an old network card, advice: use new network cards!08:29
Pyrobobeverything really big lol08:29
claudiuUFO: i removed avahi-daemon, seems its ok now, no more error08:30
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claudiuthanks08:30
UFOMetaMorfoziS: try using adduser at console?08:31
MetaMorfoziSI'm deleted the adm group08:31
MetaMorfoziSi think.08:31
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MetaMorfoziSin the users & grouups it shows the main screen08:31
MetaMorfoziSi think i'm fuckup the all...08:32
UFOare you using kuser or are you going thru system-settings08:33
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mastergamerhi08:34
mastergameri need help with my wireless lan usb adapter08:34
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weedarmastergamer, it is much better to just ask the question08:36
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MetaMorfoziSre08:36
MetaMorfoziSshit:(08:36
MetaMorfoziSThe module Users & Groups colud not be loaded08:36
mastergamerhow do i get kubuntu to recognise that my adapter is there?08:37
MetaMorfoziSif i upgrade to kde 3.5.1 it's solute it?08:37
mastergamerit just says that i have an eternat interface (which i do), but no usb adapter08:37
weedarIt depends on the usb adapter mastergamer, but often you will have to load the windows driver with the help of ndiswrapper08:38
mastergamerok08:38
UFOMetaMorfoziS: try using the system--->usermanager not the system-settings--->users-groups08:38
UFOMetaMorfoziS: donno but its nice to have the new kde :)08:39
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UFOMetaMorfoziS: the reason why you could not load the module could be becouse you have the root pass now08:40
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UFORed_Herring: last night with the ati problem with jason... we were both right... my solution got driver loaded and resolution right but with the drm problem ;)08:43
Red_Herringnice08:43
Red_Herringglad to hear it08:43
UFORed_Herring: and with no 3d acceleration08:44
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Red_Herringwhen is kde4 set to come otu?08:59
Red_Herring*out08:59
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RickKnightAny postfix gurus here? I have a question about sending mail from my kubuntu to my public address.09:01
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TuxTechJust messing around with Kubuntu for the first time....running it on VMware Player :)09:02
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UFORickKnight: i have used the postfix09:03
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UFORickKnight: whats your problem?09:04
RickKnightUFO: My mail from postfix is bouncing due to MAIL FROM is localhost.localdomain09:04
RickKnightI've modified /etc/mail.rc to show "MyHostName" as my real host name and "MyDomain" to my real domain but the MAIL FROM is still showing localhost.localdomain.09:05
markrianThe latest Kaffeine doesn't seem to close properly for me - after quitting, the process seems to stick around and I have to manually kill it to get rid of it. Anyone else experiencing this?09:07
slow-motionhallo09:08
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UFORickKnight: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#myorigin09:09
RickKnightUFO: Thanks, I'll go there now.09:09
UFORickKnight: its /etc/postfix/main.cf09:10
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_rootre09:10
_rootUFO:(09:10
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MEtahttp://metamorfozis.hu/p/bakker.png09:10
MEtai'm deleted the adm group09:10
MEtai think09:11
Hostilehey guys, I have NFS set up on my linux server, but to mount it on my kubuntu machine my userid has to be the same as my userid on the server, last time I used usermod to change it and my permissions got all screwed up and KDE/gnome wouldnt start even after I reset the permissions, any ideas on the best way to mount this NFS share?09:11
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tchizeHow do i use the kubuntu install disk to just redo the mbr?09:11
Red_HerringHostile: make a new user that can access it?09:12
Red_Herring!grub09:12
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting09:12
MEta!adm09:12
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MEta09:12
tchizehow thanks :)09:12
HostileRed_Herring: but how is that going to help me if I log into my regular user, or are you saying delete my current user and just remake it specifying the uid when I create it?09:13
brodelWhen I go into the file sharing part in system settings it's all greyed out after asking to enter in my password. :( Am I supposed to enable it somewhere else?09:13
Red_HerringHostile: not sure09:13
Red_Herringi dont knwo much about nfs09:13
MEtaUFO please help me:(09:13
UFOMEta: ok... create new group and add user meta in to that group... but use kuser to do it09:13
HostileRed_Herring: it requires my machine to have an identical user as the one with access on the server09:13
Red_Herringcan you change the userid of the server?09:14
_afhi, when i have installed the firefox package, where can i start firefox??09:14
Red_Herringto sync with the ubuntu one?09:14
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karlhi guys09:14
Red_Herring_af: at the ternial, type in firefox09:14
karlcan anyone tell me what the name of the search program in the menu09:14
karl?09:14
karlthe kde menu09:14
UFOMEta: if you dont find it try to type kuser in console09:14
karlcause i seem to have lost it09:14
karland i wanna recreate it09:15
HostileRed_Herring: Yeah I might be able to do that, I should go ask someone in the gentoo channel (thats what my server is) about the consequences of doing that09:15
Red_Herringit shouldnt matter...09:15
Red_Herringi dont *thin*09:15
karlGUYS!09:15
Red_Herring*think09:15
karl:09:15
karl:09:15
Red_Herring?09:15
karlat the kde menu09:15
karlthere is a search files thing09:15
UFOMEta: i got in adm group only my usual user09:15
karlbut that link is gone09:16
HostileRed_Herring: yeah.09:16
MEtayes09:16
MEtabut when i'm delete apu user09:16
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MEtait' asks me about it deletes the adm user09:16
MEtaand after it, i have the bakker.png09:16
MEtain kuser i'm gunging sg09:17
MEtaso i do logout and try09:17
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MetaMre09:19
MetaMit's not work09:19
UFOMetaM: does it work with root09:20
MetaMwith root and with meta yes.09:20
MetaMwith apu it's crazy.09:20
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jarlathIm having trouble installing codecs and other software (like skype for example). Can someone help make sense of this output? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55015309:21
Red_Herring!seveas09:21
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:21
Red_Herringjust use that!09:21
Red_Herringits AWESOME09:22
NeoChaosXjarlath: that means that the apt repos you have enabled don't have the package libdvdcss209:22
MetaMwhere can i fully reconfgure the users & groups?09:22
Hostilewhat does Seveas have in it that is useful?09:22
Red_Herringskype09:22
pmwhat is so awesome?09:22
jarlathThanks NeoChaosX09:22
Red_Herringjava sdk 1.509:22
Red_Herringwin32codecs09:23
pmsorry, AWESOME? ;P09:23
jarlathand Red_Herring :)09:23
HostileRed_Herring: ooh how about azureus?09:23
Red_Herringit has all the stuff ubuntu can't legally have09:23
Red_HerringHostile: not sure09:23
Red_Herringya09:23
Red_Herringit does09:23
Red_Herringjust checked09:23
MetaMufo any idea?:(09:23
NeoChaosXi've preferred the PLF ubuntu repos for non-free stuff09:24
jarlathWhy isnt that mentioned in the FAQ? I found it totally useless. I followed everything and I ended up with a bad sources.list file.09:24
HostileRed_Herring: sweeet09:24
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Red_Herringya09:24
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Red_Herring!easyubuntu09:24
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu09:24
jarlathAnd none of the files the FAQ mentions can be installed as per the FAQ.09:24
Red_Herringwhen they FINALLY come out with it09:24
Red_Herringit will be much better then seveas09:24
SirKillalothi, when I try to rightlick->share a directory in konqueror it crashes immediately. Here is the backtrace, any idea where the problem is? http://nopaste.php-q.net/19116609:25
pmwill there be skype 2 for linux?09:25
Red_Herringnot sure09:25
Red_Herring!skype209:25
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring09:25
Red_Herring!skype09:25
ubotuhmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/09:25
UFOMetaM: have you tried to add user apu to adm group09:25
MetaMthe adm group is not available09:26
MetaMi'm deleted it09:26
MetaM...:((09:26
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MetaMi'm created it but its not the same with the old adm group09:27
pmi think 1.2.0.18 is gonna be  the last version of skype for linux09:27
pm:(09:27
jarlathThanks Red_Herring, thats not the same page I was reading earlier. Maybe it will help.09:27
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jihino it doesnt work :(09:27
MetaMi'm dont think the only solution is the reinstalling...09:27
jihii have downloaded firefox from mozilla.org, and now?09:28
MetaMand now you cd to your unzipped frefox and type ./firefox .09:28
MetaM!firefox1.509:28
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:28
MetaMbut my problem? any idea?:) :(09:28
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RickKnightUFO: Thanks. That helped me find the problem. /etc/postfix/mail.cf myorigin was set to /etc/mailname which was set to localhost.localdomain. Changing myorigin solved the problem.09:30
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MetaMshit09:33
MetaMis it windows?09:33
antlarrWhen using kdesu or any other application that asks for the root password to get root permissions temporarely, they always say the password is wrong09:33
JSMetaM: still same problem...09:33
MetaMonly the restart solute my problem?09:33
antlarr(on kubuntu 5.10)09:33
antlarrany idea of what's wrong?09:34
MetaMnot restart09:34
MetaMreinstall09:34
MetaMsry09:34
NeoChaosXantlarr: you're supposed to enter your own password09:34
MetaMjs, about the user managing?09:34
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NeoChaosXby default ubuntu doesn't enable the root account or a root password09:34
MetaMand you have crashing users & groups?09:34
MetaMehm09:34
jarlathwhat do I need to replace the list_of_sections with for seveas?09:34
antlarrNeoChaosX: no, I mean, using alt-f2, I try to run kate as root, I enter the root password and it says it's wrong09:34
antlarrNeoChaosX: or with aptitude, I ran it as my user, and when I said "go", it asked for the root password09:35
antlarrand it also said it was wrong09:35
UFOMetaM: ok i tried to create new user and it worked great... but what exatly is your problem09:35
antlarrbut "su"  accepts it09:35
NeoChaosXyou're not supposed to enter the root password, you're supposed to enter your own09:35
NeoChaosXtry that instead09:35
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MetaMi'm created a new user and it's not worked.09:35
UFOMetaM: you could try to upgrade the kde09:36
MetaMnot have the similar permissions (like meta)09:36
MetaMi'm ugraded...09:36
MetaMit's shit.09:36
pmwhich version of kde is gonna be included in dapper?09:36
UFOMetaM: what exatly is not working in new user apu?09:37
antlarrNeoChaosX: I think I'm not explaining it right, If I'm using an unpriviledged user, I press alt-f2 and I try to run kate, then press the Advanced button and I say "run as root", how can it ask me for my own password?09:37
MetaMok09:37
antlarrI don't think it would be right to allow me to run any application as any user just knowing my own password09:37
MetaMso my users & groups in kcontrol09:37
MetaMnot laods09:37
NeoChaosXantlarr: that's how Ubuntu is set up09:37
MetaMbecause some errors, i'm included: http://metamorfozis.hu/p/bazzeg.png09:38
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MetaMhttp://metamorfozis.hu/p/bakker.png09:38
NeoChaosXit may ask for the root password in the dialog, but you're supposed to enter your own password to do any admin taks09:38
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antlarrNeoChaosX: it says password incorrect too09:39
NeoChaosXwell, what the heck09:40
NeoChaosXyou didn't do any advanced customization when you install Kubuntu, did you?09:40
nlindbladanyone using an intergrated VIA graphic card?09:40
MetaMis there a reconfigure all?09:40
UFOMetaM: try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:41
MetaMi'm not want to reinstall this shit09:41
antlarrI upgraded kde to 3.5.1 just after installing it, so I don't know if it ever worked right09:41
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NeoChaosXhuh, that's odd09:41
cmatheson_i don't have a burner in my computer... i'd like to create an iso using k3b and then copy it over the network where i can burn it... can't figure out how to save the disc as an iso though.  how is this done?09:42
MetaMits installed09:42
NeoChaosXantlarr: okay, try again and don't enter a password, then09:42
antlarrI already tried that09:42
NeoChaosXoh09:42
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jihiarr, it doesnt work :'(09:42
UFOtry in system the update wizard09:42
MetaMadept updater?09:43
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UFOMetaM: yes09:43
MetaMit said i have the newer version09:44
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UFOThere was not no need to upgrade anything09:44
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MetaM?09:45
antlarrNeoChaosX: I see that by default there is ALL = (ALL) ALL in sudoers, but still, not even "sudo -u root ls /" is working09:46
MetaMi'm upgraded and updated all09:46
UFOMetaM: ok... its really wierd.... everything works on meta and root user?... but not with the apu...09:46
NeoChaosXHuh, that's weird09:46
MetaMyes09:46
MetaMi'm very fazed09:46
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antlarrNeoChaosX: http://consistencies.net/20051018/fixing-kdesu-problems-in-kubuntu/09:47
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Knowerrorsanybody use mondorescue on ubuntu?09:47
NeoChaosXantlarr: so you tried doing the steps on that page?09:47
antlarrI'm trying now09:48
antlarrlet's see09:48
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MetaMi think i'm reinstall this shit...09:49
MetaMi'm sucking this about 30minutes09:49
MetaMit's a kubuntu full install time...09:49
MetaMshitshit.sthi.09:49
UFOMetaM: ok...09:49
MetaMsdkfkasld09:49
MetaMi'm going to die....09:49
MetaMbye all.09:50
jihik, now fire fox runs ^^09:50
jihibut how do i set it as standard browser?09:50
razI cant boot to kde becasue xorg seems to have a problem with the fact that my computer has two video cards. Its says "(WW) NV: no matching Device section for (BUSID PCI:1:0:0) found"09:50
Knowerrors!mondo09:50
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Knowerrors09:50
Knowerrors!mondorescue09:50
ubotuKnowerrors: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:50
NeoChaosXjihi: go to System Settings, then KDE Components09:51
Knowerrorsgrrreat09:51
NeoChaosXone of the options should be to set the default web browser09:51
raz I cant boot to kde becasue xorg seems to have a problem with the fact that my computer has two video cards. Its says "(WW) NV: no matching Device section for (BUSID PCI:1:0:0) found"09:51
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UFOraz: probably wrong driver... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org09:53
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UFORed_Herring: you talked about extra repsitory... what was it?09:55
pmis there a difference between xorg 6.9 and 7.0 apart from the fact that the latter is modular?09:55
Red_Herring!seveas09:55
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:55
Red_Herringpm: xorg 7 will support composite09:55
UFORed_Herring: thx09:55
Red_Herring!composite09:55
ubotu[composite]  at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.09:55
razUFO: I never messed with the driver in xorg.conf - this is happening from a fresh install and both cards are nvida cards that have worked with the nv driver before09:55
pmi've managed to compile 6.909:57
Red_Herringwhy bother?09:57
pmbut i had no luck with 7.009:57
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pmelisa-laajakaista - nice word;)09:59
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razdpkg-09:59
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raz I cant boot to kde becasue xorg seems to have a problem with the fact that my computer has two video cards. Its says "(WW) NV: no matching Device section for (BUSID PCI:1:0:0) found"09:59
UFORed_Herring: only for 32bit?10:00
Red_Herringwhat10:01
UFORed_Herring: does it contain packages only for 32bit10:02
Red_Herringoh10:02
Red_Herringhmmmmmm10:02
Red_Herringnot sure10:02
Red_Herringsomeone wanna check?10:02
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UFO!pastebin10:03
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)10:03
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UFORed_Herring: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/850610:04
Red_Herringwhats your sources.list?10:05
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Red_HerringUFO?10:07
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UFORed_Herring: Yes10:09
Red_Herringsources.list?10:09
UFORed_Herring:10:09
Red_Herringya10:10
UFORed_Herring: ok... one second10:10
tburdickwhats the package for development10:10
Red_Herringkdevelop10:10
tburdickthat installs all the good stuff like gcc, autoconf10:10
Red_Herringoh10:10
tburdickthats not it10:10
tburdickI always forget what its called...10:10
Red_Herringinstall-tools10:10
Red_Herringi think10:10
Red_Herringwhen is wine gonna be 1.0?10:11
UFORed_Herring: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/850710:11
Red_Herringdeb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas list_of_sections10:12
Red_Herringinstead try:10:12
Red_Herringdeb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all10:12
UFORed_Herring: ok.. thx10:13
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UFORed_Herring: noup.... i read in the forums... it does not support 64bit... but have you ever installed kubuntu over internet?10:14
Red_Herringnah10:14
Red_Herringnever bothered10:14
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Red_Herringi always had the CD handy10:14
tburdickbuild-essentials is what its calle10:16
Red_Herringthats it10:16
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astaroth_how can i add mp3 support? the faq says that i have to install a few packages, but they can't be found via apt10:34
astaroth_apt can't find xine at least..wtf?10:35
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rysiekI don't know where to ask this (besides #cvs, buth them CVS guys are dead or away ;) ), maybe here somebody will have a hint11:12
rysiekI am working on a short python script to send CVS watch notifications through Jabber11:13
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rysiekdoes anyone know, or knows where to ask, what *exactly* does cvs repo's engine output to the mail function? :)11:13
Red_Herring<no answer usually means no one knows>11:16
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Red_Herringno clue there, sorry11:16
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SirKillalothow do I get video preview in konqueror?11:17
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astaroth_how can i activate auto-completion with tab in the konsole?11:17
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rysiekRed_Herring, yeah, I suppose11:20
Red_Herring:-)11:20
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UFOastaroth_: get rid of sudo thing11:23
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DjDarkPingvinhy ,why can`t i install kget via adept?11:24
tburdickis there a set of audio packages for ubuntu?11:24
tburdicklike jamin... ardour11:24
tburdickI saw they have some, but they're old11:24
UFODjDarkPingvin: try to set apt sources to universe11:25
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httpdssis kubuntu repo down 4 everyone ??11:27
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Red_Herringnot me11:27
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astaroth_UFO: how do you mean?11:27
ccc_httpdss: yes, down here11:28
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DjDarkPingvinUFO: its set11:29
DjDarkPingvinalready11:29
DjDarkPingvini  get timeout from the server when i try to install11:29
jarlathWhen a needed package cannot be installed by adept (the word  BREAK comes up in caps), what options do I have? The package in question is kmail.11:30
UFOastaroth_: activate the root password and use su instead of sudo...11:30
httpdssjarlath: kubuntu and ubuntu repos are down (i think) ... not even sudo will help :P11:31
httpdssohh and rss feeds of both ... too ..11:32
httpdss:-S11:32
DjDarkPingvincan someone help me with kget?11:32
tsdgeoshttpdss: yes, down here too11:32
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jarlathhttpdss: Okay. The error is "httpdss: The error is "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Does that sound like the repo is down?11:34
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Florian-THi all11:35
Florian-Tcan someone help me with printing via irda?11:35
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Florian-Tirda works but i have no idea how to connect to the printer11:36
httpdssyup, sound to me ... ("...a problem downloading some packages...") ... do an update and tell me if u get somthing like " failed to fetch .. blah blah blah"11:36
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chrisWhere does apt-get source place the source files?11:37
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jarlathhttpdss: Yes actually, I did. For main Packages. But not for the kde3.5.1 repo, which is where I assume kmail is coming from.11:38
apokryphoschris: current directory11:38
chrislol11:38
chris:)11:38
chrisI didnt look there dooh11:38
httpdssget the kde351beta1 on your source.list and update again11:39
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jarlathhttpdss, kubuntu.org is down and googling for it doesnt show up anything. Do you have it?11:43
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jarlathI used this for the update  http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu breezy main11:43
astaroth_how come my gaim sound isn't synchronized with the activity? Normally the sound appears at the moment when a message is received, but there is a delay of 1 or 2 seconds..11:43
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Red_Herringwhere are the devel files for kde3.5.111:43
Red_Herringi need the dev files badly11:44
jarlathhttpdss: there is a 3.5-beta2. Is that the one?11:44
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Red_Herringwhen is kde4 set to come out?11:44
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apokryphosRiddell: 3.5.1 konqueror (in breezy) seems to identify itself as being on dapper11:45
apokryphosRed_Herring: around late next October11:45
Red_Herringvista time?11:45
Red_Herringnice11:45
Red_Herringkick their ass11:46
Red_Herringi hope e17 comes out by then11:46
Red_Herringthen its gonna get real interesting11:46
httpdssim realizing some of the "easy-ubuntu" or automatix changed my repo GRRRRRRRRRRRR  >:-(11:46
Red_Herring!automatix11:46
Red_Herringdoooooooooonnnnnnnnnnttttttt use automatix11:46
apokryphos!+automatix11:47
ubotufrom memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but trust me: the best thing to do is to read the documentation! (sooner or later you'll have to, anyway)11:47
BorutWhen will be there on new K3b in repsitory breezy badger?11:48
apokryphosBorut: there most probably won't be11:48
apokryphosBreezy is released =)11:49
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epI guess stuff you do in the real world  ain't as simple as the apple is a fruit example. Just use ADT :)11:49
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hopewhats the repository for kde 3.5.111:50
jarlathI can see the kmail .deb file in the repo http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu/pool-breezy/kdepim/. So I presume its accessable.11:51
apokryphos!kde 3.5.111:51
ubotuwell, kde 3.5.1 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php11:51
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hopethx11:51
httpdssbut kubuntu is down :(11:51
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prevellothe main site ?11:51
apokryphoshttpdss: I recommend retrying later then :)11:51
apokryphosprevello: yes11:52
Tm_Tshould be available in few hours11:52
httpdssapokryphos: yes, i know, thx ... its just im really mad at automatix and want to get my repos right !!!11:52
Tm_Thaha11:52
Tm_T!automatix11:53
ubotuautomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications (see !easyubuntu), but it's often best to read the documentation.11:53
Tm_Tso true11:53
DjDarkPingvincan someone help me with kget?i get timeout from the server when i want to download it11:53
apokryphosDjDarkPingvin: when you want to download kget?11:53
httpdss DjDarkPingvin: servers are down ..11:53
apokryphosDjDarkPingvin: sudo apt-get install kget11:54
apokryphoshttpdss: not the main ubuntu archives11:54
DjDarkPingvinyes i did that11:54
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BorutThere will not be update K3b 0.12.11 for Kubuntu??11:54
DjDarkPingvinhmmm i think it has been ubdateed11:55
apokryphosBorut: not in Breezy11:55
Boruttragedy11:55
Borut:)11:55
hopecould someone post the kubuntu kde 3.5.1 adept repo for me the kubuntu site is down11:55
tburdickuh, why would adept uninstall my kernel?11:55
tburdickI didn't tell it to uninstall that...11:56
tburdickI told it to install libcap, and it started doing crazy stuff11:56
apokryphoshope: considering it's down, you won't be able to use it currently...11:57
jarlathhope: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55032411:57
DjDarkPingvinsomeone please help me with this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55032211:57
jarlathhope: I got those from the kubuntu site before it went down so I assume theyre what you need.11:57
httpdssok ... at least automatix made a backup of the source.list ... (madness decreased 1%)12:00

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