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Tonio_Riddell: just emailed to you the fixed bluez-pin package, works nice here01:21
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freeflyinghi all05:17
freeflyinganyone can have a look at this http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/200602121215.png05:17
freeflyingand tell how about the display05:17
=== robotgeek sees nothing wrong except the lack of usage of a kubuntu skin :)
robotgeekfreeflying: if you increase the font size, do the fonts go out of sync (especially the "i's" )05:20
freeflyingrobotgeek: dose this be acceptable to you 05:21
freeflyingrobotgeek: http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/200602121223.png05:24
robotgeekfreeflying: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i848205:24
robotgeekfreeflying: yours looks fine, i don't remember changing anything with regard to the fonts in konqueoro05:25
freeflyingrobotgeek: I just use the default setting of kongqueror 05:26
robotgeekfreeflying: same here too, i think i set everything to be 2 points smaller in kde system settings05:27
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mornfallyada10:13
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mornfallRiddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-manager-i18n.png <-- translated visible libapt-front strings in there :-)10:27
mornfall--> food10:27
Lathiatis i tjus tme10:42
Lathiator has the default font changes10:42
Lathiatfrom sans serif to serif?10:42
Lathiat(style as opposed to exact font name)10:42
Hobbseei think the default font changed10:45
Hobbseeand now i cant figure out what the original was!10:45
Lathiatdejavu sans mono10:48
Lathiati think10:48
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hungerkmail won't let me sign my mails anymore.11:22
Hobbsee_awayLathiat: ah, i'll check that11:24
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Tonio_hi 01:38
Tonio_Riddell: I just send you a patch for systemsettings, adding french to all .Desktop and .menu files01:38
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=== Hobbsee discovers splashy, and is tempted to try it out - it looks much prettier than usplash!
Hobbseehttp://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/doku.php - wish we could have it in dapper02:15
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freeflying_Hobbsee: u like splashy?02:21
Hobbseeyeah, it looks nice02:21
Hobbseefreeflying_: why do you ask?02:21
Hobbseenight all02:23
freeflying_Hobbsee: I'd prefer to usplash now   :)02:24
robotgeeknight Hobbsee 02:24
Hobbseecan it get changed?02:24
Hobbseeor is it too late?02:24
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mornfalli thereby declare adept-notifier autostart working reasonably and go to get some lunch03:04
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mornfallTonio_: ping? :-)04:07
Tonio_mornfall: pong04:08
Tonio_mornfall: how are you ? I was just testing adept on dapper, nice improvements ;)04:08
mornfallTonio_: there is a new app in the adept suite (well, 2 of them, if we count notifier) -- and it has no icon :)04:08
mornfalli'm fine :)04:08
mornfalldapper version of adept is outdated04:08
Tonio_mornfall: 04:09
Tonio_okay the icon will be done toonight04:09
mornfallwow :-)04:09
Tonio_I can start now04:09
mornfallit's the installer thing04:09
Tonio_the manual installer ?04:09
mornfallhave you seen screenshots?04:09
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Tonio_nope, I would like to get an idea of what to do ;)04:10
Tonio_okay gimme the url and I'll start the icons right now :)04:10
mornfallTonio_: http://people.freedesktop.org/~mornfall/adept-2006-02-12/04:12
Tonio_k04:12
Tonio_ok, what is the main difference between this and the standard adept ?04:13
Tonio_that doesn't allow uninstallations etc ?04:13
Tonio_just a little frontend for installations ?04:14
mornfallthat it has fairly different interface04:14
mornfalland that it doesn't list packages but .desktop files04:14
Tonio_yep I can see that, and the interface is really nice :)04:14
Tonio_how do you build the desktop database ?04:14
mornfalli steal it from gnome-app-install :-)04:15
mornfalli'd say the main difference is target audience though04:15
Tonio_haha04:15
Tonio_okay, I can see what to do, whould youi like to keep the same "dtyle" for the icon ? or something completly different ?04:15
Tonio_s/dtyle/style04:16
mornfallprobably same style, since they are all related04:16
Tonio_absolutly, and it is way easier for me than restart from scratch ;)04:16
Tonio_and about the notifier, will it take place in the systray ?04:17
mornfallyes, it will04:17
Tonio_do you need an icon for this too ?04:17
mornfalli have borrowed nuvola icons for warning and green_led04:17
mornfallfor now04:17
Tonio_or will the standard adept one feet into ?04:17
Tonio_okay cool04:18
mornfalli will think about hiding the icon instead of showing the ok symbol04:18
Tonio_I'll email you the icons toonight, no pb ;)04:18
mornfallcool, thanks :)04:18
Tonio_have clothes to wash :((((((((( have to leave you mornfall ;) have a good day04:19
mornfalllaters, enjoy ;-)04:19
Tonio_;)04:20
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Tonio_mornfall: ping ?05:00
mornfallTonio_: pong05:01
robotgeekmornfall: ooh, nice05:01
Tonio_mornfall: I was thinking of a must have functionnality of synaptic that still miss to adept...05:02
mornfalleh, must-have :-)05:02
Tonio_synaptic can save and import the system state, including the full installed package list05:02
mornfallagain? :)05:02
Tonio_that VERY unefull when I want to clone a machine for another personn05:02
robotgeekbasically dpkg --get-selections ?05:02
mornfallTonio_: i can make a cli app for that using libapt-front... don't expect it in the gui in near future though (clutter, clutter)05:03
Tonio_well, I asked once on the bts but didn't get any response, so I suimply would appreciate your viusion of this mornfall :)05:03
mornfallTonio_: oh, that was you :-) i still have it on my list every time i look at b.k.o05:04
Tonio_okay, that's my response ;)05:04
Tonio_yep, that was me ;)05:04
Tonio_thanks for the answer :)05:04
mornfalllistening to Arriving Somewhere But Not Here on Deadwing by Porcupine Tree (2:02/12:02)05:06
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Tm_Twanna see beautiful sources.list?05:39
Tm_Thttp://pastebin.com/55130405:40
Tm_TI wonder why my friend had some trouble upgrading to KDE 3.5.1 =)05:40
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Tonio_Tm_T: I migrated to dapper, and I can confirm the bug on bold fonts05:48
Tonio_Tm_T: although there is another on certain fonts that simply don't work, like verdana on websites, even though I have msttcorefonts installed05:48
Tm_Thm? bug on bold fonts?05:51
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mornfallhttp://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-2006-02-12/manager7.png :-)06:07
sealneinteresting that was a week before kicker crashed without xmmskde06:08
sealneXlib: resource ID allocation space exhausted!06:08
sealnemornfall: what does the logical button do?06:13
mornfallno no not again :'(06:13
mornfall[18:08:29]  < BCoppens> and what does logical mean :P06:13
mornfall[18:08:32]  < mornfall> argh06:13
mornfall[18:08:35]  < mornfall> i forgot again :-)06:13
mornfall[18:08:41]  < BCoppens> but looks cool06:13
mornfall[18:08:44]  < mornfall> BCoppens: because it'll be auto-relabeled depending on package06:13
mornfall[18:08:57]  < BCoppens> ah =)06:13
mornfall[18:09:07]  < mornfall> i shouldn't put these buttons in screenshots, i always get the same questions :o06:13
mornfall[18:09:12]  < BCoppens> lol :P06:13
sealnesorry but i honestly can't even guess that one :)06:14
mornfalli know, my fault :)06:14
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mornfallhttp://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-2006-02-12/manager8.png -- no more (logical)06:25
mornfall(and no more slovak strings)06:25
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mornfallRiddell: ping?06:42
mornfallhmm, or actually anyone06:42
mornfallis there a place where one can get changelog.Debian (.Ubuntu?) for kubuntu packages online?06:42
jpatrickpackages.ubuntu.com06:43
mornfallit doesn't seem to give me the changelog06:44
mornfallmore like a 40406:44
jpatrickwhich package?06:45
mornfalllibapt-front-dev -- but the idea is to have this changelog available in adept06:45
mornfall(dapper)06:45
mornfallit's all borky borky :'|06:46
mornfallso probably no changelogs06:46
jpatrick /usr/share/doc/libapt-front-dev ?06:48
mornfalljpatrick: it's more useful to have the changelog before you install or upgrade though :-)06:54
jpatrickyes. :)06:54
jpatrickdapper-changes?06:54
mornfallyou mean ml-archive?06:55
jpatrickyes06:55
jpatrickhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-January/005373.html06:58
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mornfallownz http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-2006-02-12/manager9.png07:40
Tm_Twow07:44
Tonio_mornfall: rocking !!!07:54
jpatricklooks real good :)07:59
mornfallwhen i have time to kill i'll add file properties dialog and open-with menu :)07:59
Riddellmornfall: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/08:00
mornfallin the meantime, i make filelist loading asynchronous and release :)08:00
mornfallRiddell: not bad08:00
jpatrickRiddell: is it me - or does amaroK have no debian/control file?08:00
Riddelljpatrick: it might use debian/control.in08:00
Riddellmornfall: not bad yourself.  presumably it only knows the file list for installed packages?08:01
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jpatrickoh wait it has one but it's an application/octet-stream08:02
Riddellmornfall: that changelogs.u.c is used by synaptic's update tool I believe08:03
mornfalldebian synaptic fetches changelogs from p.d.o08:03
Riddellmakes sense08:04
jpatrickjust so I remember for the future "2:1.3.8-0ubuntu1" <- what's the 2: for?08:06
mornfall(i somehow like the p.u.c and p.d.c changelogs more, since i could just load them into khtml :-)08:06
mornfalljpatrick: epoch08:07
mornfalljpatrick: makes a lower version a higher version :)08:07
jpatrickok, got it08:07
Tonio_hi Riddell08:08
Tonio_hi jpatrick08:08
jpatrickhi Tonio_ 08:09
jpatrickRiddell: btw mako accepted me08:09
Riddelljpatrick: rocking08:11
Riddelljpatrick: have you been accepted into the ubuntu-members group?  if not you probably need to e-mail kamion08:12
jpatrickhe said he's waiting for LP to come back :/08:12
Riddellfair enough :)08:12
jpatrickmaybe I should ping kamion08:12
RiddellI'd just be patient08:14
jpatrickyep08:14
jpatrickshould I forward mako's message to him?08:15
RiddellI was just guesing kamion controlled ubuntu-members, it might well be mako08:19
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mornfallaye, so async loading of file list works fine now08:32
mornfall\o/08:32
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Tonio_Riddell: did you receive the bluez-utils package ?08:41
mornfallRiddell: how is the gnome-app-install .desktop thingy looking?09:19
mornfallRiddell: do we have a separate package?09:20
mornfalli am wondering if i should drop installer from packaging for now09:20
mornfallor ship some kde desktop files with it09:20
jpatrickTonio_: are you gonna update ktranslator? (or should I?)09:23
jpatrickah it's a release candidate...09:26
mornfallgood night09:30
jpatricknight mornfall 09:30
Tonio_jpatrick: yep it's on my plans09:32
Tonio_nite mornfall09:32
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Tonio_jpatrick: the problem is that it need an uvf exception09:33
Tonio_I need to have a look at the changelog to see if really an update is needed09:33
Tonio_hum, yep, rc only.... will probably not update it for the moment09:33
jpatrickuvf exception?09:34
Tonio_yes09:34
Tonio_what's the problem ?09:34
jpatrickhmm09:34
jpatrickah right09:34
jpatrickbye everyone09:39
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Riddellmornfall: mvo said he'd do it, I don't think he has yet, although I don't imagine it would be difficult for me to just do it10:20
RiddellTonio_: yes, may look at it tonight, else tomorrow, depends if I can get these accounts done10:21
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Tonio_Riddell: thanks for the info11:00
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