=== apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N756P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62CD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@144.136.113.76] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:21] Riddell: just emailed to you the fixed bluez-pin package, works nice here === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N828P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.187.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-11.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe_ [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jmarrero [n=jmarrero@66.231.167.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe_ [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe_ [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@69.210.207.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:17] hi all [05:17] anyone can have a look at this http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/200602121215.png [05:17] and tell how about the display === robotgeek sees nothing wrong except the lack of usage of a kubuntu skin :) [05:20] freeflying: if you increase the font size, do the fonts go out of sync (especially the "i's" ) [05:21] robotgeek: dose this be acceptable to you [05:24] robotgeek: http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/200602121223.png [05:24] freeflying: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8482 [05:25] freeflying: yours looks fine, i don't remember changing anything with regard to the fonts in konqueoro [05:26] robotgeek: I just use the default setting of kongqueror [05:27] freeflying: same here too, i think i set everything to be 2 points smaller in kde system settings === Huahua [n=hua@222.50.183.217] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:13] yada === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] Riddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-manager-i18n.png <-- translated visible libapt-front strings in there :-) [10:27] --> food [10:42] is i tjus tme [10:42] or has the default font changes [10:42] from sans serif to serif? [10:42] (style as opposed to exact font name) [10:45] i think the default font changed [10:45] and now i cant figure out what the original was! [10:48] dejavu sans mono [10:48] i think === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.125.197] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:22] kmail won't let me sign my mails anymore. [11:24] Lathiat: ah, i'll check that === tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:38] hi [01:38] Riddell: I just send you a patch for systemsettings, adding french to all .Desktop and .menu files === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bert_ [n=bert@c529def15.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee discovers splashy, and is tempted to try it out - it looks much prettier than usplash! [02:15] http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/doku.php - wish we could have it in dapper === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7C19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] Hobbsee: u like splashy? [02:21] yeah, it looks nice [02:21] freeflying_: why do you ask? [02:23] night all [02:24] Hobbsee: I'd prefer to usplash now :) [02:24] night Hobbsee [02:24] can it get changed? [02:24] or is it too late? === luka74 [n=luka74@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:04] i thereby declare adept-notifier autostart working reasonably and go to get some lunch === \sh is now known as \sh_away === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] Tonio_: ping? :-) [04:08] mornfall: pong [04:08] mornfall: how are you ? I was just testing adept on dapper, nice improvements ;) [04:08] Tonio_: there is a new app in the adept suite (well, 2 of them, if we count notifier) -- and it has no icon :) [04:08] i'm fine :) [04:08] dapper version of adept is outdated [04:09] mornfall: [04:09] okay the icon will be done toonight [04:09] wow :-) [04:09] I can start now [04:09] it's the installer thing [04:09] the manual installer ? [04:09] have you seen screenshots? === mornfall decides to make new screenies and add them to the wiki page [04:10] nope, I would like to get an idea of what to do ;) [04:10] okay gimme the url and I'll start the icons right now :) [04:12] Tonio_: http://people.freedesktop.org/~mornfall/adept-2006-02-12/ [04:12] k [04:13] ok, what is the main difference between this and the standard adept ? [04:13] that doesn't allow uninstallations etc ? [04:14] just a little frontend for installations ? [04:14] that it has fairly different interface [04:14] and that it doesn't list packages but .desktop files [04:14] yep I can see that, and the interface is really nice :) [04:14] how do you build the desktop database ? [04:15] i steal it from gnome-app-install :-) [04:15] i'd say the main difference is target audience though [04:15] haha [04:15] okay, I can see what to do, whould youi like to keep the same "dtyle" for the icon ? or something completly different ? [04:16] s/dtyle/style [04:16] probably same style, since they are all related [04:16] absolutly, and it is way easier for me than restart from scratch ;) [04:17] and about the notifier, will it take place in the systray ? [04:17] yes, it will [04:17] do you need an icon for this too ? [04:17] i have borrowed nuvola icons for warning and green_led [04:17] for now [04:17] or will the standard adept one feet into ? [04:18] okay cool [04:18] i will think about hiding the icon instead of showing the ok symbol [04:18] I'll email you the icons toonight, no pb ;) [04:18] cool, thanks :) [04:19] have clothes to wash :((((((((( have to leave you mornfall ;) have a good day [04:19] laters, enjoy ;-) [04:20] ;) === mornfall augumented https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperPackageManager with screenies :) === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:00] mornfall: ping ? [05:01] Tonio_: pong [05:01] mornfall: ooh, nice [05:02] mornfall: I was thinking of a must have functionnality of synaptic that still miss to adept... [05:02] eh, must-have :-) [05:02] synaptic can save and import the system state, including the full installed package list [05:02] again? :) [05:02] that VERY unefull when I want to clone a machine for another personn [05:02] basically dpkg --get-selections ? [05:03] Tonio_: i can make a cli app for that using libapt-front... don't expect it in the gui in near future though (clutter, clutter) [05:03] well, I asked once on the bts but didn't get any response, so I suimply would appreciate your viusion of this mornfall :) [05:04] Tonio_: oh, that was you :-) i still have it on my list every time i look at b.k.o [05:04] okay, that's my response ;) [05:04] yep, that was me ;) [05:04] thanks for the answer :) [05:06] listening to Arriving Somewhere But Not Here on Deadwing by Porcupine Tree (2:02/12:02) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-017-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:39] wanna see beautiful sources.list? [05:40] http://pastebin.com/551304 [05:40] I wonder why my friend had some trouble upgrading to KDE 3.5.1 =) === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@80.229.160.88] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:48] Tm_T: I migrated to dapper, and I can confirm the bug on bold fonts [05:48] Tm_T: although there is another on certain fonts that simply don't work, like verdana on websites, even though I have msttcorefonts installed [05:51] hm? bug on bold fonts? === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N713P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:07] http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-2006-02-12/manager7.png :-) [06:08] interesting that was a week before kicker crashed without xmmskde [06:08] Xlib: resource ID allocation space exhausted! [06:13] mornfall: what does the logical button do? [06:13] no no not again :'( [06:13] [18:08:29] < BCoppens> and what does logical mean :P [06:13] [18:08:32] < mornfall> argh [06:13] [18:08:35] < mornfall> i forgot again :-) [06:13] [18:08:41] < BCoppens> but looks cool [06:13] [18:08:44] < mornfall> BCoppens: because it'll be auto-relabeled depending on package [06:13] [18:08:57] < BCoppens> ah =) [06:13] [18:09:07] < mornfall> i shouldn't put these buttons in screenshots, i always get the same questions :o [06:13] [18:09:12] < BCoppens> lol :P [06:14] sorry but i honestly can't even guess that one :) [06:14] i know, my fault :) === jpatrick [n=patrick@234.Red-81-38-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N713P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:25] http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-2006-02-12/manager8.png -- no more (logical) [06:25] (and no more slovak strings) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-017-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [06:42] Riddell: ping? [06:42] hmm, or actually anyone [06:42] is there a place where one can get changelog.Debian (.Ubuntu?) for kubuntu packages online? [06:43] packages.ubuntu.com [06:44] it doesn't seem to give me the changelog [06:44] more like a 404 [06:45] which package? [06:45] libapt-front-dev -- but the idea is to have this changelog available in adept [06:45] (dapper) [06:46] it's all borky borky :'| [06:46] so probably no changelogs [06:48] /usr/share/doc/libapt-front-dev ? [06:54] jpatrick: it's more useful to have the changelog before you install or upgrade though :-) [06:54] yes. :) [06:54] dapper-changes? [06:55] you mean ml-archive? [06:55] yes [06:58] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-January/005373.html === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-017-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D267A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] ownz http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-2006-02-12/manager9.png [07:44] wow [07:54] mornfall: rocking !!! [07:59] looks real good :) [07:59] when i have time to kill i'll add file properties dialog and open-with menu :) [08:00] mornfall: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/ [08:00] in the meantime, i make filelist loading asynchronous and release :) [08:00] Riddell: not bad [08:00] Riddell: is it me - or does amaroK have no debian/control file? [08:00] jpatrick: it might use debian/control.in [08:01] mornfall: not bad yourself. presumably it only knows the file list for installed packages? === bestadvocate [n=bestadvo@71.31.152.247] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bestadvocate [n=bestadvo@71.31.152.247] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [08:02] oh wait it has one but it's an application/octet-stream [08:03] mornfall: that changelogs.u.c is used by synaptic's update tool I believe [08:03] debian synaptic fetches changelogs from p.d.o [08:04] makes sense [08:06] just so I remember for the future "2:1.3.8-0ubuntu1" <- what's the 2: for? [08:06] (i somehow like the p.u.c and p.d.c changelogs more, since i could just load them into khtml :-) [08:07] jpatrick: epoch [08:07] jpatrick: makes a lower version a higher version :) [08:07] ok, got it [08:08] hi Riddell [08:08] hi jpatrick [08:09] hi Tonio_ [08:09] Riddell: btw mako accepted me [08:11] jpatrick: rocking [08:12] jpatrick: have you been accepted into the ubuntu-members group? if not you probably need to e-mail kamion [08:12] he said he's waiting for LP to come back :/ [08:12] fair enough :) [08:12] maybe I should ping kamion [08:14] I'd just be patient [08:14] yep [08:15] should I forward mako's message to him? [08:19] I was just guesing kamion controlled ubuntu-members, it might well be mako === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-017-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [08:32] aye, so async loading of file list works fine now [08:32] \o/ === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@M3074P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:41] Riddell: did you receive the bluez-utils package ? [09:19] Riddell: how is the gnome-app-install .desktop thingy looking? [09:20] Riddell: do we have a separate package? [09:20] i am wondering if i should drop installer from packaging for now [09:20] or ship some kde desktop files with it [09:23] Tonio_: are you gonna update ktranslator? (or should I?) [09:26] ah it's a release candidate... [09:30] good night [09:30] night mornfall [09:32] jpatrick: yep it's on my plans [09:32] nite mornfall === jpatrick looks for something to package [09:33] jpatrick: the problem is that it need an uvf exception [09:33] I need to have a look at the changelog to see if really an update is needed [09:33] hum, yep, rc only.... will probably not update it for the moment [09:34] uvf exception? [09:34] yes [09:34] what's the problem ? [09:34] hmm [09:34] ah right [09:39] bye everyone === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N832P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] mornfall: mvo said he'd do it, I don't think he has yet, although I don't imagine it would be difficult for me to just do it [10:21] Tonio_: yes, may look at it tonight, else tomorrow, depends if I can get these accounts done === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@69.210.207.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@83.84.234.155] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] Riddell: thanks for the info === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62D0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel