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hopeJar: Thank you12:01
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jarlathhope: no problem.12:02
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UFOcan i upgrade to dapper with apt-get??12:03
httpdssDjDarkPingvin: your kget package is inside a server which is currently down ..12:03
Florian-TUFO: yes12:03
UFOEasy way12:03
BorutWhere I will find newest packages and K3b? Walks it about for me repsitory Kubuntu?12:03
DjDarkPingvinuff this is my luck....12:04
Florian-TUFO: open adept package manager, open menu an manage repositories12:04
UFOFlorian-T: can i upgrade to 32bit from 64bit12:04
Florian-TUFO: uhh, dunno12:05
httpdssDjDarkPingvin: oh and btw .. get jriddell's signature :P12:05
sorush20I can't access my floppy from kubuntu why ? mounted and eveything just access via the terminal?12:05
DjDarkPingvini already got that12:05
UFOhave to wait 3 for the dvd12:05
keithHi, I'm new to Linux (just installed) and am wondering how to change my screen resolution to 1600x1200 (I can only select up to 1280x800). Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.12:06
UFOsuse got some configuration where in 64bit install could run direct skype 32bit... and in every distros they are saying it should use chroot to 32bi12:07
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crimsunthat's called multiarch12:08
UFOSuSe is quite good distro but i don like the rpm... and now ubuntu is doing same to debian12:08
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jarlathUFO, I agree. There doesnt seem to be a real difference between the rpm and deb systems.12:09
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iustindoes any of you tried to install easy ubuntu... i`m not really new to ubuntu but it seems i have some problems12:10
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iustinit says: kdeinit could not launch gksu12:12
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iustinand i also tryed from command line ... other errors :(12:12
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dcwckdis kubuntu.org down for anyone else?12:13
keithIt is for me12:14
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dcwckdI just used a mirror to update to kde 3.5.112:14
dcwckdand it upgraded to kde 3.5.012:14
dcwckdsooo weird12:14
BigBadBendcwckd: yes.12:14
dcwckd?12:14
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dcwckdBigBadBen: thanks12:15
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dcwckdben?12:16
dcwckdwhat was fixed from kde 3.5.0 to 5.112:16
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Fox_Offciao a tutti12:23
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Fox_Offc' qualcuno12:24
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Fox_Off?12:24
trappistFox_Off: try #kubuntu-it12:25
Fox_Offthank you trappist12:25
Fox_Off:)12:25
BigBadBen:)12:26
Fox_Offthis channel si very very BIG12:27
Fox_Offgood!!12:27
Tm_Ttutti...12:28
Fox_Offparli italiano Tm_T12:28
keithCan someone tell me how to change my resolution to 1600x1200?12:28
Tm_TFox_Off: no, please use english if you're not italian channel12:28
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Fox_Offexcuse me, I believed that you spoke Italian12:30
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Fox_Offgood night all (in italian :"buona notte a tutti")12:34
Fox_Off:)12:34
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slewthe people.ubuntu.com is down, for the jriddell key. is there another source for it?12:41
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crimsunany key server will suffice12:42
Riddelljriddell.org12:42
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slewlike this: wget http://jriddell.org/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg12:43
slew?12:43
Riddellhttp://jriddell.org/PUBLIC-KEY12:44
crypt++12:48
slewgpg: can't open `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg': No such file or directory12:49
slewshould that happen?12:49
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Hobbseeyou shouldnt need to open it - you need to add it12:51
slewi did this: sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg12:51
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kkathmanslew did you put that in your sources.list?12:52
kkathmansometimes people do that ...it doesnt go there12:52
slewno i havent messed with sources.list12:53
slewi did this before but im having to start over and i keep getting 404 at the people.ubunutu.com site12:53
GeniusDexyou entered the wrong filename12:53
Riddellslew: the file you downloaded is called PUBLIC-KEY12:53
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GeniusDexthe sites being down is annoying yes :/12:54
slewthanks i got it with sudo apt-key add PUBLIC-KEY12:54
kkathmanhmm yah  weird.. no kubuntu.org :(12:54
stefanohey is someone here who speaks japanese?12:55
kkathmanoh well12:55
burnninatorquestion, trying to install hamachi and am getting "sudo: make: command not found" after typing sudo make install12:55
burnninatorAm i missing something?12:55
stefanoinstall the package make-essentials12:55
burnninatorthx12:55
burnninatorcouldn't find package make-essentials12:56
stefanoah12:56
stefanothe package is called build-essentials12:56
stefanowell hey, i need someone who speaks japanese12:56
burnninatorwrong again12:56
stefanomh12:57
stefanoill have a look12:57
slewbuild-essential12:58
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slew[i KNOW that one. =]  ] 12:58
stefanoyeah sorry, right12:58
burnninatorthats it12:58
burnninatorthanks12:58
doctormoI'm trying to get an epson printer to work (usb)12:58
Red_Herringhallo everybody!01:01
Red_Herringhallo doctor nick!01:02
Red_Herringsorry, watching simpsons01:02
stefanolol01:02
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burnninatorwhere is the resolution set in kubuntu?01:07
Red_Herringuhh01:08
Red_Herringsystemsettings01:08
Red_Herring--> display01:08
burnninatoryeah, it won't let me choose 1280*102401:08
slewhow do i mount hdb1 and have it an icon on the desktop?01:08
burnninatornot an option01:08
Red_Herringok01:08
Red_Herring"sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:09
Red_Herringjust default through it until you get to the resolution part01:09
Grim76Anyone know how to get fluxbox to remember your wallpaper from session to session.01:09
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doctormoI have when hardware dosn't work in linux... good job it's not my printer or machine. but I can't help feeling i've left the door open to someone comming in and installing windows on it01:16
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jasonhi, i'm trying to install the atheros madwifi modules and i'm having problems.  can someone help me with them? thanks01:20
jasoni've retrieved the sources, removed teh old modules and now i'm trying to complile the new driver01:22
jasonthe errors i received are here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55042301:22
jasonRed_Herring:  u there?01:22
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jasonis anyone else able to help me out?01:23
jasoni'm trying to follow the instructions listed on the madwifi site: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo01:24
jasoneveryone gone for dinner?01:25
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Red_Herringwhoops01:27
Red_Herringsorry01:27
Red_Herringi was for a bit01:27
Red_Herring!madwifi01:27
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring01:27
jasonRed_Herring:  hey, how's it goin?01:27
Red_Herringnot too bad01:28
Red_Herringyou?01:28
jasonRed_Herring: not bad, plugin away at trying to get my wifi up01:28
Red_Herringmadwifi huh...01:28
Red_Herringi could have SWORN i saw madwifi stuff in the seveas repo01:28
Red_Herringlemme check now01:28
jasonRed_Herring: i googled it and found a posting on the ubuntu forums, which redirected me to madwifi side01:28
Red_Herringwhat card?01:28
jasonRed_Herring: 1 sec, i'll find out01:29
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jasonRed_Herring: where can i find that out...01:29
Red_Herringtry01:30
Red_Herring"lspci"01:30
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Red_Herringand look at the last entry or so01:30
jasonEthernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)01:30
Red_Herringooooo01:30
Red_Herringan atheros01:30
jasonEthernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)01:30
Red_Herringthats a good sign01:31
Red_Herring!atheros01:31
ubotuRed_Herring: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:31
jasonEthernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)01:31
jasonRed_Herring: sorry, thought i had your nick copied01:31
Red_Herringis this a built in wifi card?01:31
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jasonRed_Herring: ya01:31
Red_Herringhuh01:31
Red_Herringso ya dont know what model the card is?01:31
jasonRed_Herring: nope... probably could tell you from windows device manager...01:32
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Red_Herringwell01:32
jasonRed_Herring: unless there01:32
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jasons something within kubuntu that could tell me01:32
Red_Herringdid you try to get it working?01:32
Red_Herringthere is01:32
Red_Herringdid you try kubuntu's wifi manager?01:33
jasonwell loading up the kwifimanager has a big question mark on the card01:33
Red_Herringok01:33
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Red_Herringwe gotta do some konsole work01:33
jasonk01:33
Red_Herringtype in iwconfig01:33
Red_Herringsee if any cards show up01:33
NetGeekhello all01:33
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Red_Herringhi01:33
jasonjason@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig01:34
jasonlo        no wireless extensions.01:34
jasoneth0      no wireless extensions.01:34
jasonsit0      no wireless extensions.01:34
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Red_Herringwhat i thought01:34
Red_Herringok01:34
jason:S01:34
Red_Herringhmmmm01:34
Red_Herringso when you do "lspci"01:34
jasoni thought it would have to do wtih removing the restricted modules to install the ati drivers?01:34
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Red_Herringit gives you an unknown devicd?01:34
jasonyup01:35
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Red_Herringjason: no, that doesnt have to do with it01:35
jasonok, good to know...01:35
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Red_Herring0000:07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)01:35
Red_Herringthats what i get01:35
jasonwell i also have 0000:04:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)01:35
Red_Herringya01:35
jasonbut i figured that was my wired ethernet01:35
Red_Herringthats teh ethernet port01:35
Red_Herringya01:35
jasonya01:36
Red_Herringi have their wireless card01:36
Red_Herringi used ndiswrapper to get it working01:36
Red_Herringwhich ya may hafta01:36
Red_Herringbut before that01:36
Red_Herringdid you try a google-linux search of your laptop?01:36
jasonno01:36
Red_Herringhttp://www.google.com/linux01:36
jasoni'll try now01:36
Red_Herringsome nerd out there with your laptop has most likely written a howto on it01:37
brydennhmm01:37
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brydennok why am i having trouble installing Crystal Clear Icon theme01:38
Red_Herringbecause god hates you01:38
Red_Herringjk jk01:38
brydennkeeps saying its not a valid archive01:38
brydennlol thanks Red_Herring  ;)01:38
Red_Herringsorry01:38
Red_Herringi had ta say that01:38
brydennlol its co ;)01:38
Red_Herring;-)01:38
brydennok01:38
jasonno luck01:38
brydennso...... the error i get says its not a valid icon theme archive01:38
brydennor what not01:38
Red_Herringcrystal clear?01:38
brydennyes01:38
Red_Herringdoesnt it come by default?01:39
brydennno01:39
brydennthats crystal SVG01:39
Red_Herringjason: you need to find out what the model is of the wireless card, then do a google-linux search of it01:39
Red_Herringfrom there, someone has written how to get it working01:39
brydennRed_Herring:  both are made by the same guy though01:39
Red_Herringhuh01:39
Red_Herringwhat kde?01:39
jasonRed_Herring: ok, i'll do some hunting01:39
Red_Herring3.5.1?01:40
brydennnot sure01:40
brydennheh01:40
brydenni dont know what version of KDE i have, where do i find out?01:40
Red_Herringwell01:41
Red_Herringif you dont know01:41
Red_Herringits 3.4.301:41
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Red_Herringit only changes if you go out of the way to01:41
BigBadBenhelp->about kde :)01:41
Red_Herring!kde3.501:41
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".01:41
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brydenndo i really want 3.5 though?01:42
Red_Herringno01:42
brydennisnt it still buggy?01:42
Red_Herringno01:42
Red_Herringits nice01:42
Red_Herringbut that could have been the problem01:42
Red_Herringor maybe it *is* an invalid icon archive01:42
slewkubuntu.org is still down01:43
slewso it might not install..01:43
jasonRed_Herring: brb01:43
brydennbut Red_Herring it's a index.theme and index.desktop file01:44
Tallia1Kubuntuuhee. the last day the convert of imagemagik worked perfectly to convert image size01:44
Tallia1Kubuntuand obtain images with an acceptable size for a 56k01:44
richardhi guys - has anyone in her played with puppy linux?01:44
Tallia1Kubuntutoday.. if i launch the application on 15 images contemporary with the * it crashes01:45
Tallia1Kubuntusomeone can tell me if this syntax is correct?01:45
Tallia1Kubuntuconvert * -size 640x480 picture.jpg01:45
Red_Herringrichard: ya01:45
Red_Herringits nice01:45
Red_Herringbut dsl is wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better01:45
Red_Herring!dsl01:45
ubotuit has been said that pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE01:45
Red_Herring!damnsmalllinux01:46
ubotuRed_Herring: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:46
richardpuppy is soooo fast!01:46
Red_Herringyou havent tried dsl, have you?01:46
Red_Herringdamn small linux is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo freaking fast01:46
Red_Herringim running it on a 400mhz 64mb ram laptop01:46
richardyes - but the gui on puupy is excellent - I carry one in my wallet!01:47
Red_Herringit runs faster than my amd3500+ with decked out kde01:47
Red_Herringrichard: dsl is just as nice01:47
Red_Herringwell01:47
Red_Herringalmost01:47
Red_Herringbut dsl is still faster01:47
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richardsorry red - this is going to be a stupid question - but how are you meaning dsl?01:48
BigBadBendamn small linux I guess.01:49
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jasonRed_Herring: the card is an Atheros AR5005G01:50
richardah - ok -can I just walk up to any computer and boot dsl off my own cd?01:50
Red_Herringok01:50
Red_Herringrichard: yup01:50
Red_Herringbesides01:50
Red_Herringdsl has the same base as ubungu01:50
Red_Herring*ubuntu01:50
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Red_Herringjason: ok, did you search for it with google-linux?01:51
richard= did not know that - what apps is dsl running in RAM at the moment and how bigs the ISO?01:51
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jasontring now01:51
Red_Herringthe isos are 50mbs01:51
Tallia1Kubuntuisn't there an extension for kde01:51
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Tallia1Kubuntuto manage resizing for images?01:51
Red_Herringand its about 12 mb of RAM01:52
Red_Herringwith GUI and all01:52
Tallia1Kubuntulike you select a set of files.. and with right click you change the size of all of them?01:52
Grim76What gui is it using?01:52
Red_HerringTallia1Kubuntu: i remember something like that01:52
Red_Herringfluxbox01:52
Red_Herringor jwm01:52
Red_Herringyou choose01:52
Grim76Cool....Do you know by chance how to get flux to remember your wallpaper from session to session01:53
Tallia1Kubuntui think convert from imagemagik is broken.... while mogrify can do it01:53
Red_Herringi gotta walk my dog.... be back in like 5-10 or so01:53
jasonRed_Herring: this guy runing SuSe used "pci=noacpi" in his boot options to make his work.  would that apply to me?01:53
Red_Herringjason: nah01:54
Red_Herringthe problem is that either a) ubuntu doesnt know which driver to use01:54
Red_Herringwhich judging from that lspci thing is probobly true01:54
Red_Herringor b) there IS no driver for linux01:54
richardthanks red - last time I looked DSL was aiming for two floppies :-)01:54
Red_Herringin case b, you need to use ndiswrapper01:54
jasonok thanks01:55
Red_Herring!ndiswrapper01:55
ubotuI heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:55
richardyes- ndis should interface at the right levels for win3201:56
Tallia1KubuntuRed_Herring: can you?01:56
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Red_Herringndiswrapper is sooooooooooo much better than it was a year ago01:56
jasonok, i'll ask the guys in the madwifi chan01:56
richardif all else fails try the novel anthem 10 interface01:57
jasonok thanks richard01:57
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/Kim-2263.shtml01:57
Tallia1Kubuntuhere it is01:57
Tallia1Kubuntui think this program is VERY useful :)01:58
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Red_Herringjason: i dont think you need madwifi for your card02:06
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jasonRed_Herring: the guys in the madwifi channel think it's some problem with the kubuntu kernel, they're telling me to compile it from scratch02:07
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Red_Herringwhats the wireless card?02:07
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jasonAR5005G02:07
jasonAtheros02:07
tafsenWhen I try to chose ESD from the KDE CP i get an error that says couldn't connect to server. Im using kubuntu02:08
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Red_Herringdont use esd02:08
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keqiuguanghaiz02:08
tafsenwhy? when I use ALSA the sound skips02:09
keqiuguangi dunno02:09
keqiuguangdon't ask mi02:09
Red_Herringi stand corrected, it does use madwifi02:09
Red_Herringdid you install madwifi drivers?02:09
keqiuguangme 2 have a problem02:10
Red_Herringtafsen: use oss02:10
Red_Herringi tried alsa with doom3 and quake402:10
Red_Herringthey suck02:10
Red_Herringbut with OSS02:11
Red_Herringthey are amazing02:11
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agoe_ I have gnome (installed ubuntu) but then i wanted kde instead and now i have installed kde, but how do i change the desktop enviroment?02:13
tafsenBut I need to be able to have difrent soudn sources at once02:13
Red_Herringagoe_: did you install kubuntu-desktop?02:13
ilba7rany one can help me with a xorg.conf file for configuring dual head using ati open source drivers. I have it nearly working02:13
Red_Herringheh02:13
Red_Herringati02:14
Red_Herringsorry, i had the same problem02:14
Red_Herringbut then i got nvidia02:14
ilba7rlol02:14
ilba7ri have done everything i could still not working mmm02:14
agoe_Red_Herring: yes, i have installed it02:14
burneragoe_: choose it at the login screen02:15
Red_Herringagoe_: it should ask at the login screen02:15
burneragoe_: click session02:15
slow-motionn802:16
agoe_ok, can i only reboot x or the whole system02:17
Red_Herringx02:17
Red_Herringjust hit ctrl-alt-backspace02:17
agoe_ok, thax02:18
agoe_thanx02:18
burneror "logout"02:18
Red_Herringtrue true02:18
Red_Herringstill02:18
Red_Herringkilling it is more fun02:18
Red_Herring:-D02:18
agoe_can i only erease the gnome package and all gnome files will be gone?02:18
agoe_i want only kde02:18
Red_Herringno02:18
Red_Herringthe gnome package is a metapackage02:19
Red_Herringit is strongly discouraged to remove gnome completely02:19
agoe_why?02:19
Red_Herringbecause then you cant run gnome apps under kde02:19
Red_Herringand its a nice backup if/when kde dies02:19
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agoe_does gnome come with kubuntu ?02:19
Red_Herringno02:19
Red_Herringjust ubuntu02:19
Red_Herringwell02:20
Red_Herringactually02:20
dereksagoe_: you can install it though02:20
ilba7rRed_Herring, so does dual head work well with nividia02:20
Red_Herringi kinda lied, you still can run gnome apps02:20
dereksagoe_: just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:20
Red_Herringas long as you dont remove the core libs02:20
dereksilba7r: i am using dual heads now with ubuntu02:20
dereksblah02:20
derekswith nvidia02:20
Red_HerringNVIDIA!02:20
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Red_Herring:-D02:20
ilba7rdereks unfour i have ati02:20
Red_Herringi have a 6600gt, and couldnt be happier with it02:20
dereksilba7r: unfour?02:21
ilba7rand can not drag appl from one screen to the other02:21
agoe_dereks; no, i dont want gnome02:21
agoe_i want to erease it02:21
dereksilba7r: its how you have it setup02:21
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dereksilba7r: i have mine setup like that and like it02:21
ilba7rdereks the prop drivers does not support it02:21
Red_Herringagoe_: how big is your hard drive?02:21
ilba7rand i have been trying to set it with the open source for ages now02:21
dereksilba7r: xinerama is what you need02:21
Red_Herringi had a 3.5 gb hard drive02:21
Red_Herringand i didnt bother removing gnome02:22
Red_Herringthere is no point02:22
ilba7rdereks there is a bug with xinerama and the prop driver02:22
agoe_i have 4 drives totalt amount of 400gb02:22
Red_Herring!xinerama02:22
ubotuRed_Herring: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:22
dereksilba7r: if you say so02:22
Red_Herringagoe_: well, im sure you can afford the extra 50mb gnome has02:22
Red_Herring;-)02:22
dereksi like 2 seperate desktops02:22
ilba7rdereks would you help and and take a look at my xorg.config maybe i am missing something02:22
dereksilba7r: i don't have mine setup to use xinerama02:22
dereksand if i wanted to use xinerama i would be using twinview02:22
dereksso i don't know how much help i would be02:23
ilba7rok no problem then02:23
derekssorry02:23
ilba7rtwinview? you mean extended desktop02:23
dereksilba7r: no, nvidia has something galled twinview02:23
ilba7ror clone02:23
dereksgoogle it02:23
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ilba7rok02:24
dereksit won't work with non-nvidia cards thoguh02:24
ilba7ri think it is like clone where you have two identical desktops02:24
dereksilba7r: no it isn't02:24
ilba7rok googling it now02:24
dereksit is like xinerama02:24
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jasonRed_Herring: the madwifi ppl figured out the problem02:26
Red_Herringgood for them02:27
Red_Herringwhat was it?02:27
Red_Herringfor future reference02:27
jasonRed_Herring: you have to remove the -Werror from the COPTS+= line in the Makefile.inc02:27
Red_Herringoh wow02:27
Red_Herringi would have NEVER guessed that one02:27
jasonstupid me02:27
jasonit was in the instructions02:27
Red_Herringheh02:28
jasonthe instructions on the ubuntu wiki02:28
Red_Herringit happens02:28
jasoni just wasn't sure it was as up to date as the madwifi instructions, which didn't have that02:28
jasonanywyas02:28
dereksanyone here use rss2email02:28
jasonso now when i run the kwifimanager02:28
jasonit isn't detecting my network...02:28
jasonhow do i use kwifimanager?02:28
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Red_Herringcli all the way!02:29
jason...02:29
jasonbabysteps...02:30
Red_Herringtry iwconfig02:30
jasonunless this is easy...02:30
Red_Herringtell me what happens02:30
Red_Herringtype in iwconfig02:30
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Red_Herringcli = command line interface02:30
jasonunder ath0 there's a lot of stuff...02:30
Red_Herringok good02:30
Red_Herringtype in "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid <name of network>"02:30
jasonit didn't do anything...02:31
Red_Herringwell02:31
Red_Herringtype in iwconfig again02:31
Red_Herringand under essid:02:31
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Red_Herringit should say what network you typed in02:31
jasonyup it does02:31
NetGeekjust switch from Gnome to KDE, should I upgrade to 3.5 or 3.5.102:31
Red_Herringis this encrypted?02:31
Red_HerringNetGeek: dont matter02:32
Red_Herringjason: is the network encrypted?02:32
jasonyes it has a key02:32
Red_Herringok02:32
Red_Herringthen type in:02:32
Red_Herringsudo iwconfig ath0 key <key>02:32
jasonok02:33
Red_Herringok02:33
Red_Herringthen type in:02:33
Red_Herringsudo dhclient ath002:33
Red_Herringif everything worked02:33
Red_Herringit will babbel a bit02:33
Red_Herringbut it *should* work02:34
NetGeekkubuntu.org is down, does anyone have the lines for source.list for the lastest kde and aramok02:34
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Red_Herringthats odd02:34
Red_Herringkubuntu.org down?02:34
Hobbseeall of ubuntu is, i think - those servers02:35
Grim76deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main02:35
jasonit worked!02:35
Red_Herringnice :-D02:35
LjLGrim76: except that, guess what, that repository is, like, down :)02:36
Red_Herringgood point02:36
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Grim76Doh....That is the only one that I know if02:36
Grim76errr of02:36
jasonRed_Herring:  do i have to go through this process everytime i start up?02:37
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LjLStay the patient course \ Of little worth is your ire \ The network is down.02:37
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Grim76LjL: Try a local mirror maybe they are up and running.02:38
LjLhm not sure there *are* local mirros for kubuntu.org02:38
LjLanyway, as for me, i'll stay clear of kde 3.5.1 for the time being =)02:38
Grim76I have use the us. before and had them work while the other was down02:38
Hobbseetgoogle cache...02:39
Hobbsee -t02:39
LjLyeah but perhaps you're thinking about the ubuntu.com reps?02:39
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Grim76possibly02:39
LjLHobbsee: not very useful for downloading from repositories i guess ;)02:39
Hobbseeno, but that'll find you the mirror lines02:39
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LjLHobbsee: it *is* very useful indeed for reaching the wiki (actually, for making it reach to people Ubotu tells stuff to)02:39
Hobbseetrue02:39
jasonRed_Herring: still there?02:39
Red_Herringhuh? wha?02:40
Red_Herringya02:40
Red_Herringsorry02:40
nexushey. im  trying to compile netcat in kubuntu and i keep getting this error come up when executing the command "make linux" undefined reference to 'res_init',02:40
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jasonRed_Herring: do i need to go through this process everytime i start up?02:41
LjLRed_Herring: is that the effect downtime has on you?02:41
Red_Herringlistening to dragula waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too loud ;-)02:41
fictionhallo leuteeee02:41
Red_Herringjason: usually no02:41
Red_Herringbut if you need to do this every time02:41
jasonRed_Herring: i ask b/c i have to do everytime for my ethernet02:41
Red_Herringyou can make a script to do it automatically02:41
Red_Herringi dont know how to do it02:41
Red_Herringi dont mind typing it all in02:42
Red_Herringbut there *is* a way to make all of this happen at startup02:42
jasonRed_Herring: what about Kwifimanager?02:42
Red_Herringtry it02:42
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Red_Herringit cant hurt ;-)02:42
LjLnexus: why compile it?02:42
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jasonRed_Herring: do i need to keep the madwifi-ng folder?02:42
Red_HerringLjL: listening to music waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too loud02:43
Red_Herringjason: it couldnt hurt02:43
Red_Herringbut no02:43
Red_Herringyou dont need it02:43
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Red_Herringif you are a neat freak, delete it02:43
Red_Herringif not, just leave it02:43
jasonok thanks02:43
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fictionhallo meine amerikanischen freunde!!!02:45
fictionich bin ein berliner!!02:45
Red_Herring?02:45
Red_Herringcrap02:45
fictionsup hering?02:45
Red_Herringif only i had taken german in high school02:45
Red_Herringoh right02:45
jasonRed_Herring: k, i'm off for now, at least until my next problem!  you guys are the best!02:45
fictionyeah.. german rocks02:45
Red_Herringthey cancelled it the year i got in02:45
Red_Herringthose bastards02:46
Red_Herringjason: no problem02:46
fictionwell ive got it since 6th grade02:46
Red_Herringwe all know spanish round here02:46
fictionfirst it really got on my nerves02:46
Red_Herringthats what they teach since 2nd grade02:46
Red_Herringand there isnt really even any spanish people around here02:46
Red_Herringits like 10% latino02:46
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nexusi downloaded the unix source and it says on the site to compile it02:47
nexusplus when i run the console i want to just be able to type nc to run it, insted of having to nav to the nc dir02:47
Red_Herringwow02:47
Red_Herringktorrent rocks!02:48
Red_Herringa search engine IN the client?!?!?!??!?!?02:48
Red_Herringwell02:48
Red_Herringnot a search engine02:48
OddieI have an Nforce sound card and I cant get multiple programs to play sound....only one at a time02:48
ccc_yup, it's great02:48
Red_Herringplus its soooooooooo much faster than azureus02:48
Red_HerringOddie: nice02:48
Red_Herringsame here02:48
Oddieanyone know how to set that up02:48
Red_Herringbut i can listen to mp3s and watch tv at the same time02:49
Red_Herringno problem there02:49
UFORed_Herring: yep i tested yesterday and was quite nice to see the search02:49
Oddiesame02:49
Red_Herringnot that i use the search for anythign illegal...02:49
UFOofcource02:49
Red_Herringbut then again02:49
Red_Herringto bush and gates02:49
Oddiethats one think i would like fixed.....but thats a driver issue02:50
Red_Herringelive *should* be illegal, at least to them02:50
jasonktorrents eh?02:50
jasonfaster in terms of dl's or faster in terms of resources?02:50
Red_Herringboth02:50
Red_Herringit seems02:50
Red_Herringspeed is kinda pointless to measure02:50
Red_Herringthey ALL have about the same speed02:50
jasoni just started using utorrent in windows, they're coming out wiht a linux port eventually02:51
Red_Herringbut resources wise, ktorrent doesnt use java- enough said02:51
fictiontsch02:51
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Red_Herringjason: doubt it02:51
jasonnah, not true, back in the day i used abc and azureus consistently had higher speeds02:51
jasonthat's what it says on their site...02:51
jason"it's in the plans"02:51
Red_Herringwell02:52
Red_Herringi know one client offered a pro version02:52
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Red_Herringthat bypassed bittorrent dl:ul rations02:52
Red_Herringbut then all of the trackers banned it02:52
Red_Herringso its not that good to "go pro"02:53
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nexusok i got it compiled, after you run the make install command when you compile anything in linux, when you want to run it, regardless of the directory you are in, you justt type in the applications name, i now have the nc executabe file, ut make install doesnt do anything, so what do i do now?03:02
Red_Herringwhat do you want to install?03:02
nexusnetcat03:03
Red_Herring!netcat03:03
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring03:03
Red_Herringdid you try to apt-get install netcat?03:03
UFOwhy cant i write to debian channel?03:03
Red_Herringuhh03:03
Red_Herringyou need voice privleges?03:03
Red_Herringthey hate you?03:04
Red_Herringno03:04
nexus....... damn, all that effort, i should have thought of that03:04
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Red_Herringnexus: thats why i <3 ubuntu03:04
Red_Herringapt-get is sooooooooo nice03:04
nexuslol i know03:04
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UFORed_Herring: voice privleges?03:05
Red_Herringwell03:05
Red_Herringon my channel03:05
Red_Herringif the guy is mad03:05
Red_Herringhe de-voices everyone03:05
Red_Herringso if #debian has problems with spammers03:06
Red_Herringthey may de-voice everyone by default03:06
UFORed_Herring: and how to get not de-voiced?03:07
Red_Herringbeats me03:07
Red_Herringhold on03:07
Red_Herringlemme check03:07
UFOSame was on SuSE channel03:07
Red_Herringthats odd03:07
UFOim not so familiar with this irc?03:07
Red_Herringi was on some of those a few days ago03:07
Red_Herringit seemed fine03:07
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claydohdoes anyone know how to get kate to open all files in the same session? I am stumped03:09
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Red_Herringwhoa im lagging03:14
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Red_Herring64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=809 ms03:14
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davedormhowdy03:15
davedormI wanna build a module but get errors when I do make oldconfig03:15
davedormis there a standard "shopping list" of packages I should have to compile stuff03:16
davedormit acts like I am missing stuff03:16
Red_Herringtry installing build-essentials03:16
Red_Herringthat always helps03:16
davedormcan't find package03:17
Red_Herringdid i spell it right?03:17
Red_Herring!build-essential03:17
ubotuhmm... build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info03:17
Red_Herringoh03:17
UFOand module-assistant03:17
Red_Herringno s03:17
davedormcoming now03:18
davedormthanks...03:18
davedormI am trying to build qemu and kqemu03:18
UFO!qemu03:18
ubotuqemu is, like, totally, an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=103:18
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davedormI have a good howto03:19
Red_Herringeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew03:19
Red_Herringxp on ubuntu totally defeats the purpose of it03:19
davedormhttp://www.klykken.com/node/1103:19
davedormI am putting W2K under kubuntu03:19
davedormno xp...03:19
NeoChaosX...does anyone have an recommendations for a good wifi manager for KDE? Right now I'm using a script to connect to wireless networks, but I'd love a few GUI suggestions.03:20
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Red_Herringhttp://rj.selfip.com/RJsPics/whywin.jpg03:20
UFOdavedorm: was you in kernel source dir when tryed the make oldconfig03:20
Red_Herringthats my ubuntu setup right there03:20
davedormyes03:20
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Red_Herringits amazing how well wine has gotten03:24
UFOdavedorm: Yes but its about two years late with programs what you could use...03:25
Red_Herringbut then again03:25
Red_Herringyou look at what you can run under wine03:25
Red_Herringand realize half the programs for it suck03:25
UFOdavedorm: oops...03:26
davedormI am just doing it for fun, I don't need windows03:26
Red_Herringi mean, IE sucks no matter what OS its for03:26
UFORed_Herring: lol03:26
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NetGeekwhich irc do people prefer in kde? konversation of ksirc?03:55
Red_Herringkonverstaion is nice03:55
Ethosgaim03:55
Red_Herringno!03:55
Ethosoh irc03:55
Red_Herringuse kopete03:55
Red_Herring!kopete03:56
ubotuKopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org03:56
Red_Herring!gaim03:56
ubotufrom memory, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/03:56
Red_Herring!kde03:56
ubotukde is, like, totally, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:56
NetGeekthanks03:56
Red_Herring!nerds03:56
ubotuRed_Herring: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:57
Red_Herring!life03:57
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring03:57
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Red_Herringmy channel's bot answers "42"03:57
Drakeson_are we going to have xgl anytime soon?03:58
Red_Herring!xgl03:58
ubotuRed_Herring: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:58
Red_HerringDrakeson_: dapper probobly03:58
NetGeekDrakeson_: probably  not till after Dapper03:58
Red_Herringafter dapper?03:58
Red_Herringnah03:58
Red_Herringdapper is not due out until april03:58
Red_Herringxgl was released a few weeks ago03:59
Drakeson_I am starving to try it! do I have to compile it from source?03:59
Red_HerringDrakeson_: most likely04:00
Drakeson_or perhaps we would have an ultra ultra experimental anytime soon?04:00
Red_Herringnah04:00
Red_Herringi dont think we will for a month or so04:00
LjLis xgl of any use without any "special" window manager?04:04
Red_HerringLjL: well, you can use it for nice KDE effects04:05
Red_Herringor any effects with any manager04:05
Drakeson_well, I was thinking of trying compiz as well04:05
LjLi see04:05
LjLwell i've always been all against eye candy but compiz does look like something worth trying04:06
LjLi just hope i won't get addicted to eye candy with such temptations around04:06
Drakeson_zoom is not eye candy04:06
LjLno, but it's something can can be obtained by other means as well04:06
Drakeson_I am also against eye-candy, and would remain so04:06
LjLnot all eye candy is useless, mind you04:07
LjLfor example, in the video, the... uh how's it called04:08
Drakeson_I don't mind about many other stuff, like morphing,...  , but zoom and transparency are not eye candy. shadow is something in between04:08
LjLerr, when you move or resize windows and they stick to borders of other windows, how's that called =)04:08
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Drakeson_snap?04:09
Drakeson_snap to border?04:09
LjLyeah snap to edges04:09
LjLsay, that thing that makes windows actually look like they're sticking to the edges... you'd probably say it's pure eye candy at first glance04:09
Red_Herringits handy04:10
Drakeson_yes, that's functionality04:10
LjLbut, honestly, i've always felt the snapping feature of most window manager sort of unintuitive... no, unintuitive's not the right word -- i know how it works, i know it's there, but i just can't co-ordinate my muscles with it04:10
Red_Herringwidgets are kinda handy sometimes04:10
Red_Herring!superkaramba04:11
ubotuSuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org04:11
LjLand judging from the video i feel that it would get much better with that visual feedback04:11
LjLsuperkaramba like stuff never really appealed to me04:11
LjLreally, i'm not sure what it would have to offer me04:11
Red_Herringits very nice04:11
Red_Herringbut waaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooo slow04:11
Drakeson_LjL: I aslo have assigned shortcuts to Window Pack Left, Window Pack Right, ... that's also very handy. even when I get to gnome, I kill metacity and start kwin solely because of these features04:12
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Red_Herringnice04:12
Red_Herringkde is so much more functional than gnome04:12
Red_Herringit has keybindings for everything04:12
Drakeson_I am a little worring about the superkaramba getting seriously included in kde404:13
Red_HerringDrakeson_: no04:13
Red_Herringsuperkaramba is gonna be replaced by plasma04:13
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Red_Herringwhich will heavily use xgl04:13
Red_Herring!plasma04:13
ubotuRed_Herring: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:13
Drakeson_yes I know, but I fear my desktop get cluttered04:13
Red_Herringya04:14
Drakeson_I don't see much use for superkaramba/plasmoids yet04:14
Red_Herringwell04:15
LjLi'm happy with my panel clock and weather watcher honestly ;)04:15
Red_Herringits just like osx's widgets04:15
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LjLwell i'm not sure what os x's widgets are all about, either, not that i've ever tried them/it04:15
Red_Herringwell04:16
LjLi mean, if i need a calculator, i start a calculator, what am i missing here?04:16
Red_Herringthey are handy04:16
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Red_HerringLjL: you can use widgets to control your mediaplayer04:16
Drakeson_superkaramba=apple.widgets=vista.gadgets. it would gather more people for sure but in terms of functionality I am not very amazed04:16
Red_Herringor rss feeds04:16
Red_Herringstraight to your desktop04:16
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LjLi don't even ever *see* my desktop, who doesn't have a window maximized (or otherwise covering the desktop) anyway?04:17
LeeJunFansuperkaramba==cpu eater.04:17
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Red_Herringkeybindings bring them up04:17
Red_HerringLeeJunFan: ya04:17
Drakeson_if I need a calculator I run a terminal and run octave there. this way I would have a Matlab instead of a silly calc04:17
LjLok, but then keybinding can directory control my media player -- without any intermediate window -- or bring up my RSS reader, etc04:17
Red_Herringtrue04:17
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LeeJunFanI don't like when a cpu useage app uses more cpu than any other app.04:17
LjLLeeJunFan: :)04:18
Red_Herringheh04:18
LjLtop looks like it uses a lot of cpu as well, though i "suspect" that's just an artifact ;)04:18
Drakeson_I am sure many people would be amazed playing with plasmoids/widgets/microsoft gadgets, but the excitement would soon dampen for real users04:20
LjLanyway, all i can say is that since the advent of graphical interfaces, they've been struggling with two contrasting needs: 1) having as much real screen estate as possible for applications  2) having common things like clocks, calculators, monitors, etc visible and easily reachable04:20
Red_Herringi dont know04:20
Red_Herringmostly yes04:20
Red_Herringbut rss feeds are nice04:20
Red_Herringas are battery monitors04:20
LjLinfinite different and "innovative" compromises have been invented during all these years, to mix these two04:21
Red_Herringand clocks04:21
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LjLRed_Herring: yeah but can't you have those in your KDE tray as everybody's always done since Microsoft invented trays? ;)04:21
Red_HerringLjL: true04:21
Drakeson_the tray would rock in kde404:21
Red_Herringbut e17 is faster than any other wm i have ever used04:21
Red_Herringand it doesn use a system tray04:22
Red_Herringit is all widgets04:22
LjLDrakeson_: hope so, 'cause it kinda disappoints in 3 ;)04:22
Red_Herringwell04:22
Red_Herringif only programs just met tehstandards of system trays04:23
Drakeson_its the design is very promising now04:23
Red_Herringit wouldnt be a problem04:23
LjLthat's a factor yeah04:23
LjLbut really, the tray's functions should probably be better separated. trays are used by programs for a number of *different* things, ending up in horrible clutter04:23
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LeeJunFanwow, ati has an actual installer for linux now, too bad it doesn't work.04:24
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Drakeson_yes, that was the point, and it lead to decide not to allow the app show whatever they desire04:24
davedormthis is pretty sick right here04:24
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UFOLeeJunFan: which ati card do you have04:25
LeeJunFan9800, problem is it didn't create libfglrx_pp.so.1 link to libfglrx_pp.so.1.004:25
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LjLcurrently, i think the tray's functions can be broken down in  1) communication - background apps need to tell things to the user  2) access to "big" apps - one click, and the app comes into foreground  3) access to "applets" - one click, and the mixer comes into foreground  4) tray-only applications04:26
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UFOLeeJunFan: ok.04:26
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LjLand point 1) is a whole story by itself --- the are apps that need to show one-time messages, others need to show a continuous "status", others want to tell you when something turns on or off...04:26
LeeJunFanUFO: well, that and I didn't have an ld.so.conf file so it didn't know to look in /usr/X11R6/lib04:26
Knowerrors!trash04:26
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Knowerrors04:26
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Knowerrorsanybody know how to display trash can on desktop?04:27
Red_Herringdrag and drop?04:27
UFOLeeJunFan: the drivers are weakest link of linux :(04:27
LeeJunFanUFO: perhaps next to commercial software availability. ie - can't go get what you need from N-mart.04:29
LeeJunFanbrb, maybe. See how bad this hosed my xorg.conf :)04:29
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Distro^Junkiedon't have any cd-r's left but have dvd-r... any difference in burning kubuntu to it ?04:38
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hatake_kakashiDistro^Junkie: doubt it, but you may waste those extra spaces04:39
KnowerrorsAnybody use Epsonutil or mtink?04:39
Knowerrorsescputil04:39
LeeJunFanwell, as usual ATI's crap doesn't compile against a new kernel, if 2.6.15.1 is really that new.04:39
Distro^Junkielol not worried bout that as got over 200 blank dvd's04:39
UFODistro^Junkie: i could not write cd imgage to dvd-rw04:40
Distro^Junkiehmm will have to hunt around or download the dvd version04:42
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jasonhi all04:47
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Knowerrorsarrgh, why does trash.desktop show when I browse /home/user/Desktop in konq, but doesn't appear on my desktop?05:09
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freeflyingMay anyone have a look on this screenshot http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/200602121215.png05:19
freeflyingand tell me how about the display of the fonts05:19
SebastianIs linux easy?05:20
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KnowerrorsSebastian: to install yes, to use for general things, yea, to customize and configure, no05:21
hatake_kakashiSebastian: linux is easy enough compared to what it was.. and for how much you pay, its obviously worth it :P05:22
ragnahatake_kakashi: DUDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!05:22
hatake_kakashifreeflying: I don't see anything wrong with it05:22
hatake_kakashiragna: what?05:22
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ragnahatake_kakashi: just saying hi it is me bushito =P05:22
hatake_kakashi_root: you should _not_ be surfing as root :P05:23
hatake_kakashiragna: ahh you changed your nick again heh05:23
freeflyinghatake_kakashi: thx05:23
ragnahatake_kakashi: well just wanted to make my nick equal to the one i use in games =) so i changed to ragna05:23
hatake_kakashiragna: ah ok05:24
ragnahatake_kakashi: so how is the kernel doing??05:24
hatake_kakashiragna: still on my same old one, I think I have configured it but I have not compiled it yet :)05:25
hatake_kakashi 14:27:35 up 7 days, 20:47,  1 user,  load average: 0.45, 0.82, 0.7205:25
Sebastianwhat is X windows ?05:25
luisitohey, I have ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop. Now I just want kubuntu-desktop and not the ubuntu desktop. Can I uninstall Ubuntu-desktop without problem and just keep the kde enviroment?05:25
hatake_kakashiSebastian: GUI windows.. the world of 'point-and-click'05:26
ragnahatake_kakashi: omg 7 days up xD hahahaha05:26
Sebastianis it an OS?05:26
hatake_kakashiSebastian: no its Xorg server.. its GUI interface05:27
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hatake_kakashiGUI frontend for linux :P05:27
hatake_kakashiragna: :)05:27
hatake_kakashiragna: its still alive and kicking05:27
ragnaSebastian: in a transaltion =P it is what makes you have a desktop =P05:27
ragnahatake_kakashi: hehehe i wonder how hot is the procesor =P must be burning a hell there05:28
hatake_kakashiSebastian: fyi, linux is NOT an OS, its only kernel. Others based various bits a piece of things added to it to make it a distribution (aka distro)05:28
nothanksso this is a dumb question.. and I've tried reading readmes and forums and gotten nowhere.. but every time I ./configure anything it always says glib is missing, so.. how do I install/get glib? :(05:28
hatake_kakashiragna: 42.1 degrees celsius :) if you want I can post a screenie05:29
hatake_kakashinothanks: apt-cache search glib05:29
ragnahatake_kakashi: omg!! hahah do it!105:29
hatake_kakashi!glib05:29
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi05:29
hatake_kakashiffs you are dumb ubotu ;P05:29
hatake_kakashi!info glib-dev05:29
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hatake_kakashiragna: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/852205:31
ragnahatake_kakashi: he he he he he xD hahahaha05:33
hatake_kakashiragna: the power of RASIS compliance OS :)05:33
ragnahatake_kakashi: your laptie is gonna run away from you =D while you asleep05:34
robotgeekubotu: tell nothanks about compile05:34
hatake_kakashiragna: laptie?05:34
ragnahatake_kakashi: notebook pc05:34
hatake_kakashiragna: lol its a desktop pc05:34
ragnahatake_kakashi: laptopm laptok how ever you call it05:34
hatake_kakashilaptop05:34
ragnahatake_kakashi: just wonder why has it been up 7 days without a rest what were you doing?? = P05:35
hatake_kakashiragna: its a machine ;)05:35
ragnahatake_kakashi: machines needs rest 2 ya know ;D05:35
hatake_kakashiit doesn't realise its been up for that long05:35
hatake_kakashinah05:35
hatake_kakashiits like telling a rock how to fly :)05:36
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ragnahahahahahahhahaa05:36
ragna;D theyll fly someday youll see05:36
ragnaheheh you love your old style bitchx uuhh =P05:37
robotgeekirssi > bitchx, lol05:37
ragnarobotgeek: hehehe05:38
hatake_kakashiragna: lol05:38
hatake_kakashiragna: irssi :D05:38
Sebastianis it linux or GNU/Linux?05:39
hatake_kakashinever underestimate the power of CLI applications.. like windows05:39
hatake_kakashiSebastian: GNU/Linux05:39
ragnahatake_kakashi: ammm the same they are ugly those 2 =)05:39
hatake_kakashiragna: no way :P05:39
ragnahatake_kakashi: yes way05:40
hatake_kakashiragna: what do you use then? emacs irc client? :p05:40
ragnahatake_kakashi: hahah "konversation"05:40
ragnai am a KDe fan =P05:40
hatake_kakashiragna: ewww GUI = bulky :P05:40
hatake_kakashi;)05:41
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ragnahatake_kakashi: just dont move05:41
hatake_kakashilmao05:41
Sebastianhow do i get kubuntu ot klook as good as windows xp?is it something with my computer specs?05:41
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ragnaxD ahhg i hate you =P05:41
ragnaheheheheheh05:41
hatake_kakashiSebastian: you can but not supported/guarenteed :P get xpde05:41
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Sebastianxpde? is that a joke?05:42
ragna!ati05:42
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358905:42
hatake_kakashiSebastian: no.. its xp desktop environment, like gnome, and kde05:42
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AZ_AShi all...just wondering howto get adept working...says I need to do it in root to install packages so how could I log in as root under live cd?05:43
Sebastianwhat do you mean by not supported/guaranteed05:44
hatake_kakashiSebastian: I don't understand why do you want to make linux look like windows -_- seriously05:44
Distro^Junkiemost ppl come to linux to get away from xp05:44
hatake_kakashiSebastian: because I don't think that sort of thing is in the repository, so you have to get it and compile it yourself.. if it breaks anywhere, you don't get support here :P05:44
UFOSebastian: do you have resolution right in our linux install05:44
Distro^Junkielinux is all bout freedom and choices05:45
hatake_kakashiDistro^Junkie: I can understand that but I cannot understand whats the purpose of making linux look like windows.. if you want to try linux as it is you should touch it as it is05:45
Sebastiani meant kubuntu05:45
Distro^JunkieI agree hatake_kakashi05:45
Sebastianand i meant it in that for example...the graphics can be inconsistent05:45
UFOhatake_kakashi: have you ever used osx it looks great those icons :)05:46
hatake_kakashiSebastian: btw, fyi xpde does *not* look exactly like windows xp.. blame ms for being propriatory and making their icons patented and trademarked :P05:46
AZ_ASos x is nice indeed05:47
hatake_kakashiUFO: yeah I've used it when I went to uni, OSX 10.3 (Panther?)05:47
Distro^Junkiemicrosloth05:47
AZ_ASgot kubuntu and os x (tiger) on at same time05:47
hatake_kakashiwindows = bloatware05:47
Distro^Junkiewindows = virii and spyware05:47
hatake_kakashihe05:47
hatake_kakashiheh05:47
AZ_ASis it possible to run root or su on the live cd at all?05:48
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hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: sudo <app>05:48
gokulhas anybody recently been able to install mplayer on kubuntu from nerim.net ?05:49
UFOhatake_kakashi: we spent over 100 000 euros to licenses for sql server and servers with windows... and it got lot of lisenses until you could use in internet an so on...05:49
hatake_kakashiUFO: heh05:49
UFOand the actual cd was 10 euros for every software05:49
hatake_kakashi!mplayer05:50
ubotumethinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106105:50
hatake_kakashiUFO: I'm sure they made you listen to the nice classic musak whilst they solve your BSOD? ;)05:50
UFOhatake_kakashi: and you have buy 10 000 euros license if you put an extra prosessor in server....05:51
hatake_kakashiUFO: yeah I heard about that05:51
AZ_ASty hatake_kakashi05:51
Sebastianwhats a simputer?05:51
hatake_kakashiSebastian: are you trolling? google is your friend :P05:51
hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: np05:51
Sebastianwhat do you mean trolling?05:52
hatake_kakashiSebastian: search that up on wikipedia05:52
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Sebastianok05:52
Sebastianno05:53
Distro^Junkie??05:53
Sebastiani am not "trolling"05:53
hatake_kakashiSebastian: why ask questions when answers can be mostly found via googling?05:54
vijayhi everybody, can any one tell me how to modify fstab, in ordermount my windows partitions in write mode for a user???05:54
Distro^JunkieSebastian what are you looking to use linux for ?05:54
vijayhi everybody, can any one tell me how to modify fstab, in ordermount my windows partitions in write mode for a user???05:54
hatake_kakashivijay: you can't do write for NTFS unless if you are asking for trouble05:54
hatake_kakashivijay: and don't repeat :P05:54
Distro^Junkievijay is windows in ntfs format ?05:55
UFODistro^Junkie: probably learning05:55
hatake_kakashiDistro^Junkie: by default, windows likes to make it ntfs05:55
vijayhatake_kakashi:sorry i didn't done intentionally, it was a mistake05:55
vijayno it is in vfat05:55
UFOyou could use ext3 in windows05:55
hatake_kakashivijay: /dev/foo /mnt/foo vfat rw,defaults 0 005:55
hatake_kakashiUFO: yes but you need to download the driver to make it work05:56
UFOhatake_kakashi: yep05:56
vijayhatake_kakashi:ok05:56
hatake_kakashiUFO: that's what I'm planning to do when I get a computer that can support SATA and when I get my big hard drives from my brother :D05:57
SebastianDistro^Junkie: a free alternative to windows05:57
UFOits better because you can use eny user rights on fat05:57
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ragnahatake_kakashi: do you know how to fix the "alsa is already in use cannot use sound device" =)05:57
hatake_kakashiragna: you probably have something hooked to that module05:58
hatake_kakashiragna: close any sound based apps and if that still does not help, you might want to temporarily close KMix05:58
ragnahatake_kakashi: hhmm...05:58
hatake_kakashivijay: replace foo with your hardware05:59
UFOhatake_kakashi: those ethernet hard-drive cases arent so expencive enymore... oh... sata donno?05:59
hatake_kakashiUFO: yeah, I have 2x400GB SATA hard drives that are plugged into my brother's computer, my computer cannot handle SATA drives because its at least 5 years old06:00
gokulThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:00
gokul  mplayer-k6: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.5.0-1) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:00
gokul              Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.10) but 1.0.9-2 is to be installed06:00
gokul              Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2-2) but 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:00
gokul              Depends: libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.7-1) but 0.10.5-2 is to be installed06:01
gokul              Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed06:01
gokul              Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.5) but 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:01
gokul              Depends: libjack0.100.0-0 (>= 0.100.0) but it is not installable06:01
gokul              Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.10.2) but 1.10.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed06:01
gokul              Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed06:01
hatake_kakashi!tell gokul about pastebin06:01
ragnano flooding! =O!!!!06:01
gokul              Depends: libxrender1 (>= 1:0.9.0.2) but 1:0.9.0-1 is to be installed06:01
gokulE: Broken packages06:01
gokulthis is what happens when i try to install mplayer06:01
gokuleven after universe and multiverse are enabled06:01
UFOgokul: using dapper?06:01
P3L|C4N0gokul, no flood please!06:01
ragnagokul: no flooding!!06:01
gokulbreezy06:01
gokuloh sorry,06:01
hatake_kakashithere's too many people who just don't read the topic at all -_-06:02
hatake_kakashiPlease don't paste into the channel:  use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com06:02
UFOgokul: 64bit?06:02
gokulnopes, regular old athlon06:02
UFOyou could use seveas06:02
UFO!seveas06:02
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:02
hatake_kakashigokul: you are not going to tell me that you use dpkg06:03
hatake_kakashis/use/used06:03
gokulchanging the topic text slighly might help - "Please don't paste large amounts of text into the channel. This may lead to your connection being terminated." for e.g.06:03
gokulapt-get06:03
UFONeed some free air, and my balls are in fire because of the laptop :)06:04
UFObrb06:04
hatake_kakashiUFO, you are not going to tell me you have lappy on your legs06:04
hatake_kakashigokul: odd06:04
gokulwait, i will try using pastebin to show my sources.list06:04
vijayhatake_kakashi:i am setting the option as "user,rw" in fstab, and i think this will mount that partition as write for user???06:05
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gokulhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55068906:05
gokulvijar, user means that ordinary users can mount it06:06
gokulyou have to use uid=xxxx,gid=xxxx if you want that user to have ownership of the partition06:06
hatake_kakashivijay: check manpages for more info on mount.. 'man mount'06:06
vijaygokul:yes, iwant that one only06:06
AZ_AShmm, ok...tried installing a package through adept...no luckyet and I did start it as sudo adept06:08
gokuli am going to try and disable marillat's repository06:08
hatake_kakashigokul: your sources.list looks a little odd, I'm not sure if I can help, why do you have backports though?06:09
gokulok, that did it06:09
gokulmarillat's and multiverse both contain mplayer-k6 packages06:09
gokulthe multiverse one works.06:09
hatake_kakashihmm ok06:10
gokulyeah, i am not sure why backports are enabled. i think it was there by default06:10
gokulbackports would be more useful for hoary i guess06:10
gokuli guess someone can put that info about mplayer on the ubuntu/kubuntu pages06:10
gokulbecause a lot of wikis suggest adding marillat's packages in sources.list06:11
hatake_kakashiwell I didn't see that part though, I followed the guide from ubotu06:12
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hatake_kakashimore or less, but I added extra packages from universe/multiverse06:12
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gokulthanks for the help06:14
gokulmplayer works now06:14
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SigmaXYo; I'm trying a multi-head display setup... but keep getting "Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section."06:16
SigmaXMy xorg.conf is posted at sigmax.no-ip.org/~eric/xorg.conf if anybody can help06:16
AZ_ASis it possible to get software installed on a live cd eval?would like to try out some software but can't seem to get adept working06:17
hatake_kakashigokul: did you compile it yourself or did you get it from the repos?06:17
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hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: it should be technically possible if there is a rw partition that you can do your work on, I'm not too sure about breezy's live-cd06:18
gokulrepos06:18
gokulmultiverse06:18
hatake_kakashigokul: ahh ok, I've compiled mine from sources heh06:18
gokuli have never heard kakahashi as a name. is you actual name takahashi ?06:19
hatake_kakashigokul: no. it came from anime06:19
gokulok06:19
AZ_AShatake_kakashi: no, there's no partition since I still have 98 on here...only reason it's on here is since this was loaned to me by my father :p06:20
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gokulthough i have never watched it, people tell me that they think i am a big fan of dragonball Z06:20
hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: well, I don't know then.. I haven't seen how those livecds are configured for ubuntu/kubuntu06:20
hatake_kakashigokul: heh, because they recognise your nick as one :)06:20
_kvarroHello all, does anybody know how to get a wireless ethernet interface running in kubuntu?06:21
gokulyeah, but gokul is my actual name. ( and not very uncommon in India)06:21
AZ_ASthanks...maybe I'll wait until i can actually put linux on a computer ;)06:21
robotgeek_kvarro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:21
hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: it would probably be easily said that you can try this.. cat /etc/fstab| grep rw06:21
_kvarroI'll give that a try thanks06:22
gokulAZ_AS : livecds probably mount /usr as read only06:22
UFOSigmaX: you could try look here http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#TwinView06:22
hatake_kakashiany partitions/disks listed from that command is basically read/write06:22
AZ_ASwhat does that command do?06:22
gokulsince they don't expect you to install software06:22
hatake_kakashigokul: not for knoppix :)06:22
UFOSigmaX: it should work for ubuntu too06:22
AZ_ASi always did like doing the unexpected ;)06:22
ragna!ati men!06:22
uboturagna: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:22
ragna!ati06:22
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358906:22
hatake_kakashigokul: odd06:23
SigmaXUFO:  Thanx... I'll keep tinkering then.06:23
hatake_kakashigoku in Japanese means monkey god or something, like there was anime/cartoon based off that and I think in DBZ, it was known for a character06:24
AZ_ASyep...tried that cat command,nothing06:24
gokulyeah, son goku06:24
hatake_kakashigokul: yeah that06:24
hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: well, basically you don't have any partition/disks that has read/write capability, thought that does not prevent you from forcing it as rw, but I wouldn't recommend it06:25
gokulAZ_AS : can you put the contents of your /etc/fstab into pastebin and show us ?06:25
AZ_ASgokul: don't know how, bit rusty since I've not had a chance to fool around with linux in ages06:26
hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: cat /etc/fstab06:26
hatake_kakashicopy and paste that whilst in konsole and paste it into the konqueror06:26
gokuland copy paste what you see into http://kubuntu.pastebin.com06:27
AZ_ASsent06:28
UFOAZ_AS: give us the link06:28
ragnahatake_kakashi: you use Kubuntu or another distro?' =P06:29
AZ_AShttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55070306:29
hatake_kakashiragna: kubuntu06:29
ragnahatake_kakashi: why do you use kubuntu?06:30
gokulAZ_AS everything is read only06:30
hatake_kakashiragna: why not06:30
gokulyou wont be able to install software06:30
ragnahatake_kakashi: dont answer me with another question =P06:30
hatake_kakashiragna: :p06:30
ragnahatake_kakashi: just wanna know why you use kubuntu instead of debian..06:31
ragnahatake_kakashi: or another distro =O06:31
gokulok. thanks guys. i gotta leave06:31
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UFOragna: the stable are coming out more than once in 3 yers06:31
AZ_ASbye gokul_06:31
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ragnaUFO: stable on name cause i use unstable and it is pretty stable to me =P06:32
hatake_kakashiragna: lol, ubuntu got high recommendations for basic OS plus it uses deb packages. I prefer KDE so I chose kubuntu as a result. I will try debian later on when I feel confident with debian type feel06:32
AZ_ASso best bet for me would be to just wait until installation's possible?06:32
hatake_kakashiAZ_AS: 'df -h' and paste the output onto pastebin06:32
SmrtJustinI just rebooted after upgrading to dapper, and my resolution is now at 640x480, and KDE won't let me change it to anything decent.06:32
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UFOragna: how is your security updates?06:33
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SmrtJustinhow do I get my resolutions and refresh rates back?06:33
ragnahatake_kakashi: well to in my opinion all are the same i just wanna know why you use kubuntu thats all06:33
ragnaUFO: i think i dont got any... ;) but it got plenty06:33
manveruSmrtJustin: try 'sudo dexconf'06:33
hatake_kakashiragna: not exactly the same, they have different ideals, different package managers, etc06:33
AZ_AShttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55070706:34
ragnahatake_kakashi: like apt in kubuntu or apt in debian as the same apt in elive?? =P06:34
jeffreygoodharthello, im a newb and i cant figure out how to install kxdocker, can anyone please help?06:34
hatake_kakashiragna: yeah but there is also rpm and emerge, as well as ports06:34
ragnahatake_kakashi: well those are another families =) i am talking about .deb family06:34
SmrtJustinmanveru: sudo: unable to lookup HPLinux via gethostbyname()06:35
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SmrtJustinmanveru: I changed my hostname before rebooting to HPLinux by editng /etc/hostname06:35
manveruSmrtJustin: well, then you've b0rken something06:35
SmrtJustinmanveru: great06:35
manverucould you change it back again?06:36
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SmrtJustindo you think the hostname thats causing the problem?06:36
UFOragna: there are plenty of software in unstable you can uninstall...06:36
UFOragna: there are plenty of software in unstable you CANT uninstall...06:36
ragnaUFO: like???06:37
hatake_kakashiragna: ahh yes, but like I said, it was highly commended for newcomers, so I assume its fairly developed and that it is ongoing thing.. and another reason is that its a step before I goto debian06:37
SmrtJustinI'll try it06:37
manveruhave to pop out for a second... trying japanese input...06:38
ragnahatake_kakashi: well i am not rushing you cause i am in kubuntu 2 i was just askignwhy you were here thats all06:38
jgood2709hey can anyone help me install kxdocker real quick?06:38
jgood2709ill be ur best friend06:39
jgood2709i have a basic idea of how to do it, just need to fill in a couple gaps06:39
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manverud06:41
jgood2709yo dude06:41
jgood2709u know how to install kxdocker?06:41
AZ_ASbrb06:41
manveruapt-get install kxdocker06:42
jgood2709yeah, but it cant find the package06:42
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manveruuh06:42
manveruwhat repos do you havE?06:42
hatake_kakashiragna: wb, well, I like to get more info and help, and sometimes helping people06:42
jgood2709sorry, i duno what repos is/are06:42
jgood2709just got linux today06:43
ragnahatake_kakashi: thx, oh i see, you got any info about activating real transparency?? =)06:43
manveruok, then you don't have enough :)06:43
manveru!repositories06:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:43
ragnahatake_kakashi: at last i installed my ati card propertly n.n and now it is working iwth 3d support06:44
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jgood2709ok you've lost me06:44
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manverujgood2709: just use the first link06:44
manveruit explains what repositories are, and how to get more of them06:44
hatake_kakashiragna: heh, well I have no idea how to enable real transparency, there's fake/hacked transparencies available.. but I doubt if you can get real transparency for the time being06:45
c13what is with edubuntu?06:45
hatake_kakashi!edubuntu06:45
ubotuit has been said that edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu06:45
UFOc13: lot kiddy stuff06:45
c13ahh06:45
manveruhatake_kakashi: it is usable... but crashes for me all the time...06:45
ragnahatake_kakashi: i love your =P optimist06:45
hatake_kakashimanveru: edubuntu?06:46
manveruhatake_kakashi: no... transparency06:46
hatake_kakashiragna: lol, well I think fake/hacked transparency is good enough for a system spec of mine06:46
Sebastianragna: rokr?06:46
hatake_kakashimanveru: ahh ok, well I haven't enabled full transparency anyway, only hacked transparency06:46
ragnahatake_kakashi: tsk dont be a loser be a winner and get transparency ;)06:46
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ragnaSebastian: Ragna- roK06:47
hatake_kakashiragna: blah06:47
hatake_kakashi:p06:47
ragnahatake_kakashi: bleh =D06:47
hatake_kakashiragna: my pc is at least 5 years old considering the specs :p06:47
UFOwhy transparency?06:47
ragnahatake_kakashi: hehe mine 2;D06:48
manverubecause it's looking sweet :)06:48
ragnaUFO: give a nice candy eye to your desktop06:48
c13any kdesklets icon stuff... panel eye candy thingy06:48
manveruhttp://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php06:49
manveruthat features a nice way to get transparency running06:49
manverutowards the end of the tutorial06:49
manveruhttp://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step706:50
manveruto be exact06:50
manveruyou don't need to install that baghira-stuff for that06:51
manveru(tho it looks really nice)06:51
jgood2709looks like that howto is for a different package manager06:53
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UFOhmm... it does look nice...06:53
manverujgood2709: it is, but you don't need to do anything but editing your xorg.conf and kde-settings06:54
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manverui've done that tutorial with kubuntu already, but didn't write down how to do it... :|06:54
jgood2709heh06:54
jgood2709should i use adept as a similar program, or is it different06:55
manveruyou can install baghira from the repos06:56
manveruit's called kwin-baghira06:57
DaSkreechYay baghira06:57
manveruand lies in the universe-repos06:57
DaSkreechThough it would be nice if someone put together a complete macOSX theme06:57
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manverui only use the order of the window-decoration-buttons with plastik06:58
manverualso it's making my old laptop even more slow06:58
jgood2709i love it, but i maybe because right now im really on osx06:58
jgood2709im trying to get my pc out of windows control06:59
manveruyeah...06:59
c13and one last kestion how can i set the "kdm" resolution .. hertz.?06:59
manveruc13: it's the resolution of xorg.conf06:59
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c13any gui for that manveru ?07:00
UFOc13: system-settings---->display07:00
c13UFO: dont have that07:01
c13oh07:01
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c13UFO: i mean for the KDM too.07:01
c13stay's 75 hertz and need 6007:02
c13like kde07:02
arthur!w32codecs07:03
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:03
jgood2709ok so are repositories like auto-updaters/installers that connect to the internet07:06
UFOc13: dont you have system settings menu in your kmenu?07:06
c13yes yes07:08
c13and it's already at 60 hertz. i just set it07:08
c13but the kdm when you log on is still att 75 hertz and wanna change that07:09
UFOc13: have you restarted the xserver?07:10
c13nope but it restarts when you log out no07:11
c13but i did not retarst yet07:11
UFOc13: ctrl+alt+bacspace07:12
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c13still pops back to 75 hertz07:16
UFOlook into xorg.conf07:17
UFOthere it should be resoulution@hz07:18
UFOc13: are you trying to get picture on tv or in tft07:18
c13tft. monitor... hansol07:19
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MrDarkUserI just installed kubuntu.. and it didn't ask me for a root password?!?!07:20
c13my screen flickers when it's at 75 hertz i need to set my kdm and kde to 60hertz07:20
MrDarkUserI was able to sudo passwd root and get it07:20
MrDarkUserand set it...07:20
MrDarkUserbut adept and the su program freak out07:20
hatake_kakashiMrDarkUser: root account is disabled by default, you are mainly to use sudo if you want su to do certain things07:21
UFOMrDarkUser: or you should edit kdmrc file for allowrootlogin=true and login as root07:21
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sebastianneed help07:22
MrDarkUserhatake_kakashi: but after I set the root password to something different than my user's password, it still says it's logging on in read only mode07:22
sebastianjust installed kubuntu07:22
sebastianhow do i mount my partition07:22
sebastianso i can read the files that are stored in windows07:22
sebastianfrom here07:22
hatake_kakashisebastian: NTFS?07:22
hatake_kakashiMrDarkUser: for adpet? odd07:22
sebastianwindows xp07:22
sebastianyes07:23
UFOsebastian: arent they in /media/hda*07:23
MrDarkUsersebastian: this might work, right click on desktop -->configure desktop-->behavior -->device icons --> select unmounted HD) .. ? I had fun with that07:23
sebastianUFO: what is that?07:23
sebastiani will not lose any files by doing any of this right_07:23
UFOgo to directory /media/hda something07:24
sebastiando i go to konsole_07:24
sebastian?07:24
hatake_kakashi!ntfs07:24
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:24
UFOsebastian: or with konqueror07:24
hatake_kakashisebastian: as long as you don't set it to rw, you won't lose data07:24
sebastianhatake_kakashi: what do i do first?07:25
sebastianopen konsole?07:25
hatake_kakashiwhat ubotu just said07:25
sebastiango to that page?07:25
hatake_kakashisebastian: yes07:25
sebastianwhich is easier, with the script or manually?07:26
hatake_kakashisebastian: depends.. probably script is easy for beginners, I'm used to doing it manually since I started out that way07:27
sebastianThe script must be downloaded before it can be used. Type the following lines.07:28
sebastiancd07:28
sebastianwget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter07:28
sebastianwhere do i "type" that?07:28
UFOarent the windows partitons automatic in media directory?07:28
hatake_kakashisebastian: in konsole, Alt+F2 and type konsole07:29
sebastiancd and enter or start typing from the wget ?07:29
sebastianok07:30
sebastianit sys07:30
sebastiansays07:30
sebastiandiskmounter saved07:30
hatake_kakashisebastian: continue following the steps07:30
sebastiansudo bash diskmounter ?07:30
hatake_kakashiyes07:31
sebastiani type bash?07:31
UFOsebastian: have you looked into /media directory ????07:31
sebastiany default the disks will be writable only by root and07:31
sebastiansebastian (sebastian)07:31
sebastianDo you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)07:31
sebastiando i?07:31
sebastianwritable only by root?07:32
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hatake_kakashionly by root for ntfs.. in fact it should really be read only07:32
sebastianthen type n07:32
sebastianright?07:32
sebastianwhere it asks y n07:33
hatake_kakashiyeah07:33
c13UFO: you saying nfts is already supposed to be mounted from install?07:33
sebastianUFO: HOW do i go to the media directory?07:33
UFOcd /media07:33
sebastiansystem>storage media?07:33
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sebastianAdded /dev/hda1 as '/media/hda1'07:34
sebastianNTFS drives will be mounted read-only!07:34
sebastianAll windows and mac partitions will now be mounted every time you boot07:34
sebastianYou do not need to reboot, the partitions are mounted now too07:34
sebastianhatake_kakashi:07:34
UFO:)07:34
UFOas '/media/hda1'07:34
hatake_kakashiok07:34
sebastiansystem>storage media?07:34
sebastianclose konsole?07:35
UFOsebastian: open konqueror07:35
hatake_kakashisebastian: only when the script has finnished.. do check mount before you close it07:35
sebastianit finished07:35
sebastiani closed07:35
sebastianUFO07:35
sebastiani opened it07:35
sebastianoh i see it07:36
sebastianhard disk07:36
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sebastianhda107:36
sebastianok07:36
sebastianso07:36
sebastiana question here is07:36
sebastianwill i be able to transfer07:36
sebastianfiles from windows to kubuntu07:36
sebastianand vice versa07:36
httpdssanyone using kexi >= 1:1.4.90-0ubuntu0breezy2 ???07:36
sebastianand delete files i ahve on windows07:36
sebastianfrom here07:37
hatake_kakashisebastian: ONLY to kubuntu, not kubuntu to windows07:37
UFOno you sholdnt write to windows partition but you can copy them to kubuntu07:37
sebastianwhy not?07:37
hatake_kakashisebastian: I assume it is not mounted as rw07:37
sebastianand is tht changeable?07:37
sebastiansafely changeable07:37
sebastianno it isnt07:37
c13proprieter read write...07:38
UFOmicrosoft doesnt give ntfs specs07:38
hatake_kakashisebastian: write support is NOT supported for NTFS linux.. unless if you have nothing to lose.. or if you dare to try catpive-ntfs07:38
sebastianok, never mind,07:38
sebastiani can still have access to my windows files from here07:39
sebastianso thts fair enough07:39
sebastiani can-t delete anyhting from that partiton though?07:39
hatake_kakashis/catpive-ntfs/captive-ntfs07:39
hatake_kakashisebastian: not even create or edit new files07:39
c13sebastian: try right clicking on the drive to change the permission's07:40
sebastiani dont want to: fuck up windows, lose any important/crucial windows info, lose any of my files07:40
hatake_kakashic13: I hope you are not trying to make sebastian corrupt his ntfs if you are talking about that07:40
UFOif you need to transfer from linux to win you should create a fat32 partition for that07:40
hatake_kakashiUFO: or ext307:40
UFOYep and the driver for win07:41
sebastianwait, i have about six rewriteable cds and windows is a boot away so i wont have to delete/cahnge any data, if i want to move anythign from kubuntu to windows i will burn a cd and reboot07:41
hatake_kakashisebastian: wait.. isn't your linux on ext3?07:42
sebastianyes07:42
UFOsebastian: the reason why used sometime the fat32 partion was becouse i downloaded with p2p software from both systems07:42
sebastianet3 and ntfs07:43
hatake_kakashiUFO: the only problem with fat32 is that it does not support filesizes over 4GB for a single file07:43
sebastianext307:43
UFOand had amule and emule and they used same files07:43
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hatake_kakashisebastian: you can read/write data with windows (extra driver needed)07:43
sebastiani CAN safely open the mp3 files etc from the new partition though?07:43
UFOhatake_kakashi: yes thats true07:43
UFOsebastian: yes07:44
sebastianhow do you mena07:44
sebastianhatake07:44
sebastianthat i can open my kubuntu files from windows?07:44
c13now me for my resolution and hertz, ... why is kdm set to 60 hertz07:44
c13i mean 7507:44
hatake_kakashisebastian: you can read/write your ext3 drive/partition under windows. but you need extra drivers07:44
sebastianextra drivers?07:45
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hatake_kakashi!ext307:45
ubotu[ext3]  a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/wrote from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org07:45
c13hatake_kakashi: how could i corrupt?07:46
c13if he tchek's write write write on propreties of the drive07:46
hatake_kakashic13: there is very minimal ntfs support under linux for write, if one is not careful enough, you can corrupt data fairly easily07:46
hatake_kakashic13: I thought you mean the data on that partition07:47
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sniffhey07:48
c13that's what i mean't, anyway i'm feeling lucky07:48
UFOc13: pastebin your xorg.conf07:48
sebastianhatake_kakashi: by driver you dont mean hardware07:48
c13UFO: what ya mean07:48
c13pastebin.07:49
hatake_kakashisebastian: no, driver usually means a software that talks to the hardware07:49
hatake_kakashiusually going through the kernel07:49
c13iv'e ben with kubuntu for 1hrs now :P07:49
UFO!pastebin07:49
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)07:49
sebastianhatake_kakashi: do i have to reboot and go to that site to install the software?07:49
c13UFO: where is my xorg already07:50
hatake_kakashisebastian: for windows, generally speaking, yes.. but you may as well do that when you get back on windows anyway07:50
sebastianhatake_kakashi: is it free?07:50
hatake_kakashisebastian: yes07:50
sebastianoh great07:50
c13./etc/ or /usr/07:50
sebastianwhat a pain in the arse07:50
sebastianbut ah well07:50
UFOc13: or wait.... it could be done so change the resolution and in that should change the hrz and then select back to your regular resolution... go thru every resolution07:50
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sebastianthankyou07:51
UFONo problem07:51
hatake_kakashisebastian: well thank Microsoft for being generous to FLOSS07:51
hatake_kakashino problem07:51
sebastianhave you listened to belle and sebastian from scotland?07:51
hatake_kakashinope07:51
UFOno07:51
sebastiantheyre very groovy, i recomend "fox in the snow" by them, i am listening to it right now07:51
sebastianfrom my windows drive07:51
sebastian:)07:51
hatake_kakashimm k07:51
UFO:)07:52
crimsuntheir new album is great07:52
sebastianyes07:52
sebastianand its completely different07:52
crimsunyep, which is cool, too07:52
sebastianmost people i know love it in spite of sounding07:52
sebastiancompletely unthem07:52
hatake_kakashiI'm listening to a stream music via foobar2k and wine07:52
hatake_kakashis/stream/streamed07:52
sebastianhatake/UFO if interested send me an email to solo1mas@hotmail.com and ill reply with an mp3 of the song07:53
sebastiannow im going toi reboot07:53
sebastianbbs07:53
sniffcan someone offer me any advice for a sound problem that i have please?07:53
sniffthe problem is i have no sound and it's not because the speakers are unplugged07:54
hatake_kakashisniff: check if the card is listed under lspci and that there is a module for it and its loaded.. is it PCI or ISA?07:54
sniffno idea, it is built into my laptop and under windows it uses realtek drivers, so i guess it's a realtek07:55
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sniffthe only linux distro it seems to even half work with is suse 10, but then the software volume controls don't work but atleast i get sound07:56
sniffi really don't know enough about linux to fix it myself07:56
hatake_kakashisniff: well, output your lspci to pastebin07:56
snifflspci07:56
sniffright ho07:56
sniffwould you be able to help me if you login to my computer via ssh?07:57
hatake_kakashisniff: and also output your lsmod into pastebin as well07:57
hatake_kakashisniff: err.. it would be much better if you learned it yourself..07:57
sniffok i will try my best07:58
sniffjust how do i get an output of lspci etc?07:58
hatake_kakashiopen up konsole and type 'lspci' without quotes07:58
hatake_kakashicopy those detail outputted, and open up the browser, goto http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ and paste it in, add your nick, etc, and hit send07:59
sniffhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org?07:59
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sniffah07:59
hatake_kakashisame08:00
c13UFO: the is no hertz in xorg.conf08:00
hatake_kakashieither way, when you hit send, the url will change, copy and paste the url in here08:00
manveruc13: you have the specs of your monitor?08:01
manveruc13: like horizontal-rate, vertical-rate, maximum-resolution...08:02
c13i think so08:02
c13i got the book somewhere here...08:02
manveruand you ran dexconf ?08:02
hatake_kakashiHorizSync and VertRefresh08:02
manveruah, just look it up in the internet - every monitor-spec is out there08:03
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c13i just need the kdm to be like kde at 60hertz08:03
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hatake_kakashiits probably VertRefresh08:03
c13how can yah change or save a hertz for a kdm08:04
c13xdm08:04
nlindhi. i installed kubuntu. then did apt-get install gcc   but now when i try to compile 855resolution i get errors?08:04
nlindany c or c++ libs i need to install?08:04
hatake_kakashic13: nfi, I usually change the settings for Xorg which also changes kdm as well08:04
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sebastianusback08:04
hatake_kakashinlind: what sort of errors? if its more than 2 lines for errors, paste it into pastebin08:04
hatake_kakashisebastianus: wb08:05
sebastianusok i downloaded the file and now iaam going to install it08:05
c13hatake_kakashi: in the xorg.conf or from a gui?08:05
sniffi must confess, right now kubuntu is not installed, after fiddling around with it for 5 days trying to get the sound to work i gave up. I will reinstall it again right now08:05
hatake_kakashic13: the xorg.conf file and then I reset X via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace  (Do not do that, you will lose data if you have kept any open)08:06
hatake_kakashisniff: wait..08:06
sebastianushatake_kakashi: do i enable large file feature_08:06
sniffmm?08:06
hatake_kakashisniff: you still haven't pasted the url for pastebin for those two output08:06
hatake_kakashisebastianus: what do you mean?08:06
sebastianusit says the following08:06
nlindhatake_kakashi, i pasted in #pastebin08:07
sebastianusif you disable the large file feature you wn't be able to store files larger than 4GB08:07
hatake_kakashinlind: lol, I'm not there08:07
sniffyes,.... i don't have kubuntu installed at the moment, so i will reinstall then paste the output of those commands, I hope you will still be around a bit later08:07
hatake_kakashinlind: you are supposed to paste the output onto the site :)08:07
nlindlol08:07
hatake_kakashisniff: I might be, but I might have dinner later08:07
hatake_kakashisebastianus: wait.. this is for?08:08
sebastianusif you enable the large file feature the very first storing of a file larger than 4GB will cause old linux kernels to go read mode08:08
sniffmmmm i can hurry.... should be less than an hour to get it installed.... do you think you maybe around then?08:08
sebastianusread only*08:08
hatake_kakashisniff: maybe08:08
sniffalright08:08
sebastianusif such a volume is the root volume of linux it will become unoperable08:08
hatake_kakashisebastianus: I'm still confused, is this for a certain type of fs?08:08
sniffi'll take my chances ;)08:08
sebastianushttp://www.fs-driver.org/download.html08:09
sebastianusfor that08:09
nlindk its there08:09
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hatake_kakashisniff: I'm sure if I'm not around, there will be someone that can help08:09
sniffalright, well atleast i can post the outputs of these two files in the meantime08:09
hatake_kakashisebastianus: ahh that umm, hang on..08:09
sebastianusCoffee is a drink, usually hot, prepared from the roasted seeds of the coffee plant08:09
c13the problem is that i need to change the kdm's log on manager hertz.08:10
sniffi gotta wait 5 mins for edubuntu to finish d/loading then I'll be right on the case08:10
sebastianushere in costa rica coffee is the main product08:10
hatake_kakashisebastianus: that's only if you want to put dvd sized images onto your linux partition08:10
hatake_kakashisniff: heh08:10
sebastianuswhy would i want that_08:10
sebastianusi dont' have a dvd player08:11
sebastianusand i have a 10 GB drive08:11
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sebastianusi wont be getting any files larger than 2gb anyway08:11
sebastianusdisable then08:11
sebastianusjust a question though08:11
sebastianusit says08:11
sebastianusext208:11
sebastianusnot ext308:11
sebastianusthis is normal right_08:11
sebastianus?08:12
hatake_kakashiyes08:13
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sebastianusgre08:13
hatake_kakashiext3 is just ext2 with journaling08:13
c13so anyway to change the hertz, .... of a login screen?08:14
sebastianusok i just reached an important point08:15
hatake_kakashic13: nfi08:15
sniffoh one other thing... is it just me or is firefox slow in ubuntu/kubuntu? I'm sure it's more prompt in windows08:16
c13stands for no fudged idea08:16
c13right08:16
brydennok i need some help with kbfx08:16
brydenn./configure --prefix=/usr isnt working for me for some crazy reason08:16
hatake_kakashisniff: its a bit slow on mine but *shrug* because its using gtk libs08:16
hatake_kakashic13: yeah08:16
brydennbash: ./configure: No such file or directory08:16
brydennkeeps saying that08:16
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sebastianus"Now you have to the drive letters of your volumes with the ext2 file system, note you may resize the whole dialogue for better working" " a new IFS drive has been installed in the control panel which allows mainting drive letters similar to this dialogue box" and then theres a list with08:16
hatake_kakashibrydenn: sh ./configure08:16
sebastianusC08:16
brydenni have to type sh first before .configure08:17
sebastianusand theres a thing where several letters are set for me to pick one08:17
hatake_kakashibrydenn: basically08:17
sebastianuslike H:// etc08:17
brydennstill gave me the same sorta error08:18
hatake_kakashisebastianus: I assume that is to make ext2/3 mount to specific window's drive letter08:18
sebastianusok08:18
sebastianusW then08:18
hatake_kakashibrydenn: could it be just a config file instead of configure?08:18
sniffhow do i make usb drives auto mount, i always get access errors?08:18
hatake_kakashi!usb08:19
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi08:19
hatake_kakashi!mount08:19
ubotumount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f08:19
hatake_kakashiblah08:19
brydennmaybe hatake_kakashi  i dont know08:19
sebastianusok i just finished08:19
brydenni'm new to this08:19
sebastianuslet me go check in my computer08:19
hatake_kakashisniff: what errors?08:19
hatake_kakashibrydenn: ok what files are in that directory? paste it onto pastebin if you still do not understand08:20
sniffbut... can kubuntu do it autmatically? Like in suse you plug in flashdrive it appears. You unplug it it disappears. Dead easy. Do i really need to mess around with fstab?08:20
sebastianushatake_kakashi: so i can read and write on the linux partition from windows now that ive installed this?08:20
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sebastianusis it safe to read and write on it_08:20
hatake_kakashisniff: generally no, I don't see why you got an error, unless if its unsupported or something08:20
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snifferror: """An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1:"""08:20
hatake_kakashisebastianus: basically from the last time I checked, read the manual if you have any concerns08:20
sniff"The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist."08:21
hatake_kakashisniff: dmesg| tail08:21
hatake_kakashisniff: ahh I know08:21
sniffalways in kubuntu08:21
sebastianusis that a yes?08:21
brydennhatake_kakashi: there is a configure.in, configure.in.in and a config.h.in in the kbfx-0.4.8.2 directory08:21
sebastianusi CAn certainly read and write onto the W/ext3 from windows?08:21
hatake_kakashisniff: type in the url /media/sdb108:21
sniffi can fix it if I change the fstab but that seems really gay for something that should be hot pluggable08:21
hatake_kakashisebastianus: I think so, but read the manual just to be sure08:21
sniff"The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist."08:22
sebastianusok08:22
hatake_kakashisniff: you don't need to add it into fstab, I think its probably a minor thing, just change it so that its /media/sdb1 from konqueror's url bar08:22
hatake_kakashibrydenn: hmm08:22
sniffyeah i did08:22
sniffa friend told me to install "usbmount"08:22
hatake_kakashibrydenn: ok, try chmodding to 700 for those configure files08:22
hatake_kakashibrydenn: before you do that, you need to check to see if you have execute permission bits set on for those files08:23
hatake_kakashisniff: hmm08:23
hatake_kakashisniff: I don't have that and my iPod works when I plug it into my computer.. unless you are using dapper I presume?08:24
sniffso what happens with you on a fresh install of kubuntu and you plug in a usb flash device?08:24
sniffno breezy 5.108:24
hatake_kakashisniff: you should get a similar sort of dialogue box from windows, about new media detected, and asks you what you want to do08:24
sniffi got enough problems with this "stable" release let alone try any cowboy stuff with unstable branches08:24
hatake_kakashisniff: odd08:25
sniffyeah so i tell windows to open it, no problem. Just gives me an error08:25
sniffthat is if I am running kubuntu as a VM or as a proper install so it just can't be my hardware08:25
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hatake_kakashi!info usbmount08:26
ubotuusbmount: (automatically mount and unmount USB mass storage devices), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.0.12 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 116 kB08:26
hatake_kakashihmm08:26
sniffyeah i said i already have it installed and it made no difference08:26
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hatake_kakashi sniff ok do dmesg| tail and paste that onto pastebin08:27
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nlindhatake_kakashi, check out #pastebin08:27
bert_Is there any need to defrag the hard drive in Linux, and if so what Linux defragers are available?08:27
hatake_kakashi!info libglib2.0-dev08:28
ubotulibglib2.0-dev: (Development files for the GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 482 kB, Installed size: 1908 kB08:28
hatake_kakashinlind: I noticed08:28
sniffi pasted08:29
sniffbut how do i get the url for it?08:29
hatake_kakashisniff: the url on the address bar should be changed, copy and paste that onto here08:30
sniffhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55078308:30
sniffstupid me!08:30
hatake_kakashisniff: you're only human08:30
hatake_kakashi!apt-key08:30
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi08:30
sniff:D sometimes i fall a little below par though, i'm willing to admit08:31
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hatake_kakashisniff: to err is human :)08:31
sniffi don't see any probs with my pastebin??08:31
hatake_kakashisniff: hang on08:33
hara__hello. any crossover experts available here?08:34
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hatake_kakashisniff: doesn't seem like there is an error.. but what happens if you type /media/sdb1 into konqueror?08:34
sniff"The file or folder file:///media/sdb1 does not exist."08:35
hatake_kakashisniff: ok check under the mount08:35
sniffdo what?08:35
sebastianushatake_kakashi: while on kubuntu can i copy and paste from the ntfs partition to burn with kb3?08:36
hatake_kakashisniff: check to see if the device is mounted.. I assume not.. if not, then you may need to paste more information from dmesg onto pastebin.. probably dmesg| tail -1008:36
hatake_kakashisebastianus: I assume so, yes, but I never burned on linux yet08:36
sniffnot mounted08:36
sebastianusi have08:37
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hatake_kakashisniff: ok well, dmesg| tail -10 and paste it onto the pastebin08:37
sniffok this is it http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55079208:38
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hatake_kakashisniff: blah.. not enough.. ok do dmesg| tail -2008:39
snifflol08:39
hatake_kakashisniff: the output was not much different from the previous one08:40
sniffhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55079308:41
sniffthis one is differenet and shorter, i don't understand why08:41
hatake_kakashino, its longer08:42
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sniffmmok08:43
c13where can i change the kdm gdm and all that stuff like in ubuntu08:43
hatake_kakashiI can see a bit of a problem with it.. wait.. when did you exactly install that usbmount? after you inserted that usb mass storage device or before?08:43
sniffwell i had this problem all the time. Then i installed usbmount and tried plugging my device in several times and got the same error messages08:44
hatake_kakashihmm08:44
hatake_kakashisniff: ok.. try this.. mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb108:44
snifflike i said before if I manually create mount points and edit fstab I can get it working, just seems annoying when eveyone else doesn't have to08:45
c13hatake_kakashi: any idea from where i can change boot loader... gdm images.... chnage for gdm xdm... or what ever like in ubuntu08:45
sniffsniff@kubuntu:~$ mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb108:46
sniffmount: only root can do that08:46
sniffsudo?08:46
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hatake_kakashisniff: well I'm not too sure exactly how to solve it.. probably because there was an initial error to start off which kinda affected the outcome I assume08:46
hatake_kakashisniff: yes08:46
hatake_kakashic13: change bootloader?08:47
sebastianusim off for now08:47
c13abd all the reste08:47
sniffi need a filesystem type??08:47
hatake_kakashisniff: no, the fs should already be defined as auto08:47
hatake_kakashiunless if that fails to work08:47
c13change xdm ... for gdm example... for kdm etc...08:48
sniffsniff@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb108:48
sniffPassword:08:48
sniffmount: you must specify the filesystem t08:48
hatake_kakashic13: not quite sure08:48
hatake_kakashisniff: hmm.. try -t vfat instead of -t auto08:48
sniffsniff@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb108:49
sniffmount: mount point /mnt/sdb1 does not exist08:49
hatake_kakashisniff: sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb108:50
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hatake_kakashiand then try that other command again08:50
sniffok how do i find it?08:50
hatake_kakashisniff: find what?08:51
sniffok if i navigate to /mnt/sdb1 i can see the contents, but it doesn't appear under STORAGE MEDIA on konqueror08:52
c13hatake_kakashi: i mean all the splash theme stuff and kdm stuff , and this and that have any idea?08:52
sniffor give me an icon on the desktop08:52
hatake_kakashisniff: yes because that leads to /media.. you can if you want, mount it to /media/sdb1 if need be08:52
hatake_kakashic13: kcontrol?08:53
sniffso how do i do this eveytime my somputer restarts?08:53
c13hatake_kakashi:  where is08:53
sniffchange my fstab right08:53
sniffi got it08:53
hatake_kakashisniff: I'm sure there has to be an automount program that can help you with that08:54
sniffbut don't you already have that?08:54
hatake_kakashic13: Alt+F2 and then type 'kcontrol' without the quotes08:54
hatake_kakashisniff: I do, but I don't see why you don't08:54
sniffi mean did you edit your fstab to get you ipod accessible?08:54
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hatake_kakashisniff: actually no.. I don't have automount. but I'm sure you are missing something08:55
sniffwell i have installed in vm and in real machine using the dvd setup08:55
hatake_kakashisniff: no, all I had to do was plug my iPod in and it works.. mind you, I did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy08:55
sniffmmm08:56
sniffhow well did the upgrade go... any probs?08:56
sniffi'm not looking forward to the upgrade in april08:56
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hatake_kakashinot that great.. had a few minor problems.. one was that I cannot go into failsafe mode anymore, so if I were to do another dist-upgrade I have to do it from tty console08:57
sniffwhy so many probs, i don't even know what tty console or failsafe is08:57
sniffi hope my system doesn't get screwed then08:57
sniffif i still run breezy but let it do all it#s auto updates will i need to do an upgrade?08:58
hatake_kakashisniff: failsafe is a mode within Xorg that gives you console whilst in GUI mode, it allows you to safetly do things like major upgrades without having to do it into one of those Ctrl+Alt+Fx button for a tty08:58
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sniffhow do i access failsafe? and then what do i do to upgrade the system?08:59
hatake_kakashisniff: I wouldn't recommend auto-upgrade of its own, not when theres an app floating around08:59
sniffan app floating around?08:59
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sniffso what;s the best thing for me to do come april and dapper drake?08:59
hatake_kakashisniff: you have to logout of kde but not restart computer, etc, and when you get into login screen there is a button called session, click on it and you get a choice. Choose failsafe and you basically get a tty like window on X09:00
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B1zzwhat can I do to get wma support in k3b?09:00
sniffah i understand09:00
hatake_kakashisniff: there is this autoupdate program or something which forces update even though if things don't work, etc.. thus causing havoc, I would recommend using adept, to update09:01
hatake_kakashi!wma09:01
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats09:01
sniffso what do i do in adept?09:02
sniffclick on FULL UPGRADE?09:02
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hatake_kakashisniff: if its available, yes09:02
sniffand this will take me to dapper?09:02
sniffcan i get the dapper dvd and upgrade using this and is this a good idea?09:02
hatake_kakashisniff: well, I assume you did not edit sources.list, so you cannot get dapper and dapper is still in building09:03
sniffi mean in april09:03
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hatake_kakashisniff: if you want to yes, but you may not want to if you have the computer configured in your way, eg, you compiled certain programs that are not available, you got packages which are not maintained, and doesn't have much support, etc09:04
sniffi understand so if this is the situation what is the best thing for me to do?09:04
sniffdon't upgrade at all?09:04
hatake_kakashisniff: no no.. what I mean is, if you want specific things or you don't want to download a whole image file just to install it, I would suggest upgrade09:05
hatake_kakashiand plus reinstalling requires reconfiguring, etc09:05
UFOoff the topic but its great to watch my child 2years to watch cartoons :D09:06
UFOboy09:06
sniffi will have my system configured and installed the way i want it, I want to avoid having to reconfigure and reinstall everything. What is the best way for me to update my system?09:06
hatake_kakashisniff: through adept full upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade09:06
sniffalright09:06
hatake_kakashiits better to do that through failsafe and apt-get dist-upgrade09:07
sniffwhat about upgrade with dvd, i think it gives you the option to upgrade09:07
hatake_kakashisniff: you're not going to tell me you are going to upgrade whilst you are on livedvd?09:07
sniffno09:08
sniffbut can't09:08
sniffum09:08
sniffdamn i dunno what i mean09:08
sniffah i can burn the dvd and tell adept to use it as the only source and do the upgrade like this09:08
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hatake_kakashisniff: possibly, but I don't know, I never tried it09:09
sniffhey another question! How can i use chinese characters, english and russian on the same file system?09:09
hatake_kakashiand why would you want to download more data than when you don't need to?09:09
sniffi have many files named using the three languages09:10
hatake_kakashisniff: depends on which fs, on most fs, it can support utf809:10
sniffno you're right09:10
sniffbut utf8 doesn't support chinese09:10
hatake_kakashithey do09:10
hatake_kakashiI think they should anyway09:10
sniffthen chinese gb2132 don't support russian09:10
sniffno utf8 not for chinese09:10
sniffjust european languages09:10
sniffwindows can do it so i assume kubuntu can do it too09:11
hatake_kakashiprobably you need utf-16 or higher09:12
sniffi see09:12
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hatake_kakashiJapanese filenames are viewable via utf8 on linux.. those files are on ntfs09:13
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brydennanyone in here know much about kbfx?09:16
brydenni have it all installed, etc. Having trouble with the buttons though09:17
brydennthe button is only partly shown09:17
brydennkinda cuts it off09:17
brydennwhats up with that?09:17
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icha_imoetj09:18
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metahi all09:18
metai have a problem about adding new users.09:19
icha_imoethii09:19
metai'm added a second user09:19
meta"apu"09:19
metaand the apu account have some errors and can't login to su09:19
meta(for example the arts sund server warns when log in, it said : can't load because perm. denied))09:20
metaso anybody please help me.09:20
icha_imoetsorry i can't help u09:21
meta:((09:21
metai'm trying..09:24
icha_imoethello09:26
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metare09:28
metaits shit.09:28
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metaI'm cant believe it...09:29
metai can't add a simple user who can do anything.09:29
metait's lol.09:30
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weedarI see that scummvm has reached version 0.8.2, but the version available in universe is 0.7.1, how would I help the package maintainer upgrade the package?09:38
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_sebastianhow do i get k3b to burn mp3s into audio files?09:40
_sebastianit keeps saying unsuported format09:41
arrinmurr_sebastian: install k3b-mp309:41
B1zzwhat about wma?09:41
_sebastianarrinmurr: how?09:42
_sebastianadept?09:42
arrinmurr_sebastian: yeah09:42
_sebastiando i open adept?09:42
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_sebastianok im there now what09:42
robotgeek!adept09:43
ubotuit has been said that adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:43
_sebastianno i mean09:43
_sebastianhow do i get k3b mp309:43
B1zztype that in in adept09:43
B1zzit should come up09:43
_sebastianok found it09:44
_sebastianclicked on install package09:44
B1zzyeah09:45
_sebastiannow what?09:46
_sebastiani minmized for a moment and the install option went away and now it only says keep package09:46
B1zzyeah its installed09:46
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B1zznow go to your K menu and multimedia09:46
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B1zzand it should be there09:46
_sebastianit only says k3b09:47
_sebastiannot k3b mp309:47
arrinmurr_sebastian: k3b-mp3 just adds the mp3 functionality to k3b09:47
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_sebastianoh ok let me try it09:48
_sebastianagain09:48
_sebastianit says unsuported format09:48
_sebastianwhat did i do wrong?09:48
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B1zzanyone know how to add wma support for k3b? someone gave me a link but not much info there09:48
arrinmurr_sebastian: did you restart k3b after installing k3b-mp3?09:48
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_sebastianyes09:49
_sebastianit was closed at the time09:49
g4njahi09:49
_sebastiani dragged and dropped09:49
_sebastianand it says09:49
_sebastianunsuported format09:49
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_sebastianwait09:49
_sebastiandid i ahve to save the changes on adept09:49
_sebastianand then restart k3b?09:49
_sebastianagain09:51
_sebastianit says unsuported format09:51
_sebastianwhat did ido wrong09:51
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arrinmurr_sebastian: close adept, press alt+f2, type "konsole", and in there type "sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3"09:52
_sebastianok it worked09:55
_sebastianthanks09:55
_sebastiannow09:55
_sebastianit will burn as audio right?09:56
_sebastiannot as an mp309:56
_sebastiani picked audio project09:56
_sebastiani want it to go from mp3 to audio09:56
arrinmurr_sebastian: if you create and audio cd project and throw mp3 files there, then yes09:56
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_sebastiangre'09:58
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_sebastiani dont have to close any other programs while i burn on k3b right?09:59
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arrinmurr_sebastian: why should you? :)10:00
_sebastianthats the way i am used to on windows with nero10:01
arrinmurrheh, well, it's not maybe wise to do something that eats up all your resources while burning, but other than that there shouldn't be problems10:03
weedarAre there any "howtos" on becoming package maintaner and how to do the stuff that maintaners do?10:03
_sebastianthanks10:03
_sebastiani gotta dahs off10:03
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HawkStreetdoes kubuntu have xen support?10:22
apu!firefox1.510:22
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:22
apu!thunderbird1.510:24
ubotuhmm... thunderbird1.5 is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion10:24
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oddieso this whole miltple sounds at once thing will never be fixed?10:34
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marseillaihelle everybody10:40
marseillaihello everybody10:40
oddiehello10:40
marseillaiit's so early so i think i will not distrub you too much! :)10:41
marseillaii'm french10:41
marseillaisoory for my poor english10:41
Hobbseeearly?10:41
Hobbseenah...10:41
marseillailol10:41
marseillaii got a question :10:42
marseillaiwhere can i find some information about avahi, and how to use it in kubuntu, and what i can do with it ?10:42
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marseillaii'm looking for this since two days and i've don't find anything!10:43
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_tacalguien habla espaol??10:43
arrinmurr!es10:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:43
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_tacgracias!10:44
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HawkStreetdoes kubuntu have xen support?10:45
divansantanaI don't believe it does10:48
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weedarHow can I alter a package depending on libflac6 to also accepting libflac7 (or higher)?10:53
Hobbsee_awayweedar: modify debian/control and rebuild it10:54
Hobbsee_awayie, get the source first10:54
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weedarHobbsee_away, I've unpacked the .deb but I am unsure how to alter the dependency to work the way I want it10:55
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weedarHobbsee_away, for example: If I changed "libflac6" to "libflac6 | libflac7" that would work, but only until libflac8 was released, right?10:55
Hobbsee_awayyou'd need to (=<liblfac6) or something - dont remember how they do the versions of things10:56
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HawkStreetwhat does "four eleven" mean as a police code?11:02
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aeon17xHere what's happening?11:06
bert_nothing11:07
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weedarI'm having trouble installing libsdl1.2-dev, adept says it'll break and apt-get says it needs libartsc0-dev11:25
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weedarand libartsc0-dev complains "libartsc0-dev: Depends: libartsc0 (= 1.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 1.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1 is to be installed"11:27
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Ilokaasuany idea why do i have to reboot my adsl connection in every 10-20minutes...webpages and messenger etc stop working but irc stays online...11:32
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Ilokaasuthis command always works...until next crash    sudo su -c 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0'11:33
weedarIlokaasu, could it be your ISP's DNS-servers not working as they should?11:37
Ilokaasuwell its possible11:38
Ilokaasutbh knowing my isp, that is not a miracle :P11:38
weedarI just seem to recall a similar problem myself happening periodcally, in which case I just had to specify to use the secondary DNS and everything worked11:39
weedarMind you the problem only existed for a few days or so11:39
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stratovariushi all11:57
stratovariusdoes someboy know how to save and play flash animations fromn the web?11:57
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nol13penis12:00
stratovariusnobody can help me?12:00
nol13do you want to help your penis?12:00
ubijtsastratovarius: check the html for a link to the swf12:00
ubijtsastratovarius: then wget it12:00
ubijtsanol13: don't be offensive12:01
nol13my bad12:01
Hobbsee!coc12:01
ubotusomebody said coc was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/12:01
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stratovariusubijtsa, its a particular flash animation. see it at this link (wait its end) http://www.fmboschetto.it/didattica/buchi_neri/flash/bucner85.htm12:02
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ubijtsayou probably want to wget http://www.fmboschetto.it/didattica/buchi_neri/flash/blackho_wo.swf12:03
ubijtsaat a guess, have not tried it myself12:03
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nol13so anyway, i'm having problems writing cd's all of a sudden, im pretty sure neither cdrecord nor cdrdao is working, was getting some dcopserver error, and a bunch of other wierd errors, so can anyone help find my puppy, ive looked all over and i cant find the bastard?12:05
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Hobbseethat dcopserver isnt running?12:07
nol13ya12:07
Hobbseerm *.DCOP, .ICE*, .Xauthority, and some other file12:08
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sniffhey hatake12:09
nol13then it wouldnt even load the desktop, i reinstalled through the terminal mad stuff, (some IO error with ICE or something, reinstalled anything that i thought might be related, then my desktop loads again but cd still wont burn, erassed all the .ice .xauthority .dcop, and changed the permissions of some directory, that fixed somr stuff i think but now im getting some other errors12:11
nol13exit code one in k3b12:11
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sniffhey peeps12:13
nol13log doesnt say much else, arson says either cd isnt blank or power callibration failed use --force to solve this, but --force doesnt help12:14
sniffi was on here looking for some help with my sound system not working, I was asked to post the output of lsmod and lspci to pastebin. Which I've now done, is there anyone who would be able to have a look at them to see what the problem is please?12:15
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nol13sniff, have you tried kicking your speakers?12:16
sniffyeah and you know what I even plugged them in12:17
nol13kick them harder12:17
sniffno, my foot hurts12:17
Hobbseecrimsun: ping for the sound issue?12:17
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Hobbseesniff: see crimsun for help with sound, if he's around12:17
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sniffok thankyou12:18
sniffno he's not at the mo though12:18
nol13oh, try installing a real os then12:18
sniffkubuntu is not real?12:18
sniffwhat is it?? toilet paper?12:18
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nol13more like a paper towel12:19
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sniffand what would you consider to be a "real os"?12:19
nol13edubuntu12:20
sniffmmm it's lovely12:20
sniffi have that too12:20
Hobbseenol13: the other folder you want to remove is /tmp/.ICE-unix12:21
Hobbseethen it should work12:21
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nol13thx, ill give  it a try12:23
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nol13ok comps bbeing stupid, ill be back12:26
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DjDarkPingvinhy ,how can i add a run command button to the panel ,like the one in the k menu?12:28
_sniffcan you use alacarte to do that?12:32
HobbseeDjDarkPingvin: add applet, run command12:33
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DjDarkPingvinno Hobbsee i dont want the applet ,it ocupys too much space ,i want the run command button from the k menu12:33
Hobbseeum12:34
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nol13nope cd burn still dont work, im12:34
DjDarkPingvinHobbsee: try adding the applet and you`ll se what i mean12:35
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Hobbseeah, i see12:35
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nol13i been trying ro save a reinstall as up to this point i was extreemly happy with breezy, and had it all setup and stuff12:35
nol13oh well though12:35
_sniffget a real os12:35
nol13good idea12:36
_sniffi recommend wubuntu12:36
_sniffsorry, i mean Rubuntu12:37
nol13fuckit, back to debian and their 58 install cd,s12:37
_sniffit's the real ubuntu12:37
_sniffis that cos of all the sarge crap?12:37
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Hobbseenol13: language12:38
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nol13i was running sarge unstable, then all of a sudden my internet weent out and i couldnt get it back up no matter what i did, now im pretty sure i could have got it working by turning my roputer off and on and then doing an ifdown, ifup, as that seems to work in ubuntu12:39
Distro^Junkieanyone no why I keep getting a non ubuntu cd error ?12:40
Distro^Junkieburned the iso twice12:40
Kamping_KaiserDistro^Junkie: where do you get the error?12:41
nol13but i did really really like breezy, more than any other distro, it seems like all the bugs i had with hoary were fixed, until now when it all went pooers12:41
apuhow can i install the original windows fonts?12:41
apuis there a package or sg anywhere?12:42
apu!fonts12:42
ubotufonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto12:42
apuhmm12:42
ubijtsaapu: msttcorefonts iirc12:42
apuiirc?12:42
nol13double click on fonts.exe12:42
apuwha tis irrc?12:42
ubijtsaIf I Remember Correctly12:42
Kamping_Kaisernol13: what sort of problems?12:42
Distro^JunkieKamping_Kaiser whe it tries to find cdrom12:42
Distro^Junkiewhen*12:43
apuoh yes12:43
apusorry i'm hugnarian12:43
apubut thank you12:43
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ubijtsaapu: no worries, I am swedish :)12:43
apuyou remember correctly:) i'm during the download12:43
apu:DD12:43
Distro^Junkieinstalling it from a usb dvd drive12:43
Kamping_KaiserDistro^Junkie: booting? installing packages? what?12:44
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visik7artsd crash after some hours of unused pc12:44
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visik7kde35112:44
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Distro^Junkieinstalling packages12:45
nol13well first cd's wouldnt burn, then i reebooted and the desktop wouldnt load, then i fixed some stuff and the desktop loads but cds wont burn, maybe i had a bad apt source that meesed me up or something i dunno12:45
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Kamping_KaiserDistro^Junkie: are you trying to use an ubuntu cd on Kubuntu?12:46
Distro^Junkienope its the dvd iso12:46
apuql, it's wrk12:46
Kamping_Kaiserhm. did you instlal off it?12:46
Distro^Junkiethat's what I'm trying to do12:47
Kamping_Kaiserah12:47
Distro^Junkieright after selecting off language it gives me the error12:47
Kamping_Kaiserso you put it in, start the install, then it says no cd/dvd found?12:47
Distro^Junkieoff = of12:47
Distro^Junkieyep12:47
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. i hate that error.12:48
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Kamping_Kaiserdon't know how to fix it (i always just throw the drive across the room12:48
nol13errors suck12:48
Kamping_Kaiser)12:48
Distro^Junkielol12:48
Kamping_Kaiser;)12:49
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nol13boys have penises and girls have buginas12:50
ubijtsawhere's an op when you need'em...12:51
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nol13noooooooooooooooooooooo12:51
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ubijtsanol13: then shape up and drop the foul language..12:51
nol13so ubijsa; whats your sign baby12:52
ubijtsasign... in what sense12:52
nol13you know, like zodiac and stuff12:52
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ubijtsacapricorn - but that hardly matters relating to #kubuntu12:53
nol13i wouldnt be so sure12:53
nol13thats a nice sign12:53
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Hobbseenol13: do you need a kickban?12:54
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. please12:54
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nol13no, ill bbe good12:54
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robotgeeki can't sleep, dammit12:54
nol13im bored of you ppl anyway12:54
Hobbseeban him so he doesnt come back?12:54
Kamping_Kaiserno12:55
Hobbseei would have earlier, except that i wasnt watching sorry..12:55
ubijtsaHobbsee: I was thinking 30 mins12:55
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ubijtsaenough to make him/her cool down12:55
Hobbseei dont think it's possible to only set a ban for a certain time12:56
ubijtsashame.. we'd have to set an eggtimer then12:56
robotgeekHobbsee: if you use irssi, the kickban times out12:56
Hobbseeah12:56
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hatake_kakashiheh12:57
hatake_kakashiirssi > * imo :)12:57
Hobbseeubijtsa: the command you want, to alert ops, is !kops12:57
robotgeekHobbsee: it's "knockout" in irssi12:57
Hobbseeah right12:57
ubijtsaHobbsee: I'll remember that12:57
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Hobbseehehe12:57
robotgeekKamping_Kaiser: you cant forget kops, cmon!12:58
Kamping_Kaiserrobotgeek: try me ;012:58
Hobbsee!tell Kamping_Kaiser about kops12:58
Hobbseerobotgeek: you have ops here too?12:58
Hobbseeoh, you were asleep12:59
robotgeekyeah, i was trying to fall asleep12:59
Kamping_Kaiserlol12:59
Hobbseelol...trying12:59
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Hobbseehehe @ distro^junkie's part message01:00
Kamping_Kaiserhehe01:00
robotgeekmaybe that's a irssi signature pulled from @bash quote :)01:01
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robotgeekubijtsa: unfortunately, i have to have them on01:01
ubijtsarobotgeek: 'have to' - why?01:02
Hobbseeubijtsa: [23:00]  <-- Distro^Junkie has left this server ("When I Find Peer, Im Gonna Reset HIS Connection :P~").01:02
robotgeekubijtsa: heh, that's a good reason. plus i like to keep track of botnets01:02
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ubijtsaHobbsee: *lol*01:03
_adriani have a problem01:03
VincentMXhi01:03
Kamping_Kaiserhi you 201:03
Kamping_Kaiserplays: The Offspring - Come Out And Play, track length 3:1701:03
ubijtsarobotgeek: good reason - I think.. :)01:03
_adriani was screwing around with KDE options on windows01:03
Hobbseehi _adrian - what's your problem?01:03
_adrianHi :-)01:03
_adrianand i chose the option that a window IS the desktop when opened01:03
robotgeekKamping_Kaiser: is that some kind of script?01:03
_adriani chose the konsole01:03
_adriannow, i can't reset it01:04
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_adriani can't rightclick the titlebar because there isn't one :s01:04
Kamping_Kaiserrobotgeek: the include? yeh. gaim plugin01:04
Kamping_Kaiseri was wondering if it would crash me like last time01:04
_adriananyone know a trick for that?01:05
Hobbseealt+c to get to the menu?01:05
Hobbseemaybe nto01:05
_adrianit's a konsole :(01:05
Kamping_Kaiser*waggles finger at you* whatever you did01:05
_adrianit just terminates the current app01:05
_adriani can't close it either01:06
_adriandaamn01:06
_adrianneed to go01:06
Hobbseeoh crud01:06
_adriani'll be back later01:06
ubijtsa_adrian: ^D don't work?01:06
Kamping_Kaiserlater mate01:06
Hobbseeoh crud...01:08
Hobbseei tried it...wonder how to get it back01:08
Kamping_Kaiserrofl01:08
robotgeekHobbsee: good job :)01:08
Hobbseevery!01:08
Kamping_Kaisermv ~/.KDE ~/.KDE.bac01:08
robotgeekalt + f2 open another konsole?01:08
Hobbseeah01:09
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xoredhow can i "burn" the playlist of amarok ( possible imported in k3b ) to an usb stick easily ?01:09
Hobbseewell, i wont do that again!01:09
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: fixed?01:09
robotgeekheh01:09
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: yeah, reopening konsole fixed it01:10
Tm_Txored: drag'n'drop ?01:10
Tm_Tin Konqueror01:10
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: cool01:10
xoredTm_T: but i need to do this with the files of the playlist easyl ?01:11
xoredi mean iam not going to pick every file out in the konqueror and then d`n`d it on the usb stick ?01:11
Tm_Txored: afaik you can drag'n'drop in amaroK or from amaroK01:11
xoredTm_T: ah, ok01:11
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kannixhi01:15
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kannixkann mir jemand sagen wie das packet in adept fr die qt devs heit?01:31
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Kamping_Kaiser!de01:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de01:31
kannixoh sry01:32
Kamping_Kaisernp01:32
Kamping_Kaiserqt dev libs?01:33
kannixi'am searching the name of the qt dev package because i cant find it in adept...01:33
Kamping_Kaisernot sure.qt3-apps-dev - Qt3 Developer applications development files?01:33
Kamping_Kaiserkgoetz@Rommel:~$ apt-cache search qt |grep dev01:33
robotgeekkde-devel maybe?01:33
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Kamping_Kaiser( i think that's a hint)01:34
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kannixok teh qt package was the qt3-apps-dev :-)01:35
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Hobbseeyeah, you want all of kde-devel01:35
Hobbseeit's a metapackage of all of it01:35
vijayhi, by changing "/etc/X11/default-display-manger" file to gdm, will gdm become my default??01:36
Kamping_Kaiserdpkg01:36
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robotgeekmorning Tonio_01:37
kannixHobbsee; thx ill install the kde-devel package too...01:38
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Tonio_hi robotgeek01:40
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`Nomad_Away!azureus01:42
ubotuazureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo01:42
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dutchI got a question...how come I keep getting a cookie request from fridge.ubuntu.com ??01:49
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dutchevery 15 minutes while on-line, I get a cookie01:50
dutchbeginning to piss me off :(01:50
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_adriandamn01:53
_adrianHobbsee: , how did you do it?01:53
Hobbsee_adrian: open another instance of konsole, menu is there again01:53
_adrianehm01:53
_adriandoesn't work for me01:54
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Hobbseeotherwise, edit the config file, i guess - using nano :P01:54
Hobbseeor try restarting x01:54
_adrianalso01:54
_adriani can only close it with xkill01:54
_adrianand when i try ALT-F2 'konsole' it reopens like a desktop01:55
_adrianaargh01:55
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adrianrestarting X didn't help :(01:59
Hobbseehmm02:00
adrianwait02:01
adriani think i got it!02:01
Kamping_Kaiser:O02:01
adrianWOOHOO02:01
adriansolved!!02:01
adriani just did the same thing on another window02:01
Kamping_Kaiser*passes around drdinks*02:01
adrianand you  can see a list of all special 'behaviours' for certain apps02:01
adrianjust delete the Konsole entry and you're good :D02:01
adriani'm so happy!02:02
adrianokay02:02
adriannow my original goal:02:02
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:02
adrianHow do i make the konsole a widgetlike thingy?02:02
adrianseetrough, stuck on desktop and  no borders02:03
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Parkotronadrian: Try YaKuake. http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153 I've never used it, but I see a lot of people do.02:04
adrianthanks02:04
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adrianooooh02:04
adriansexy02:04
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adrianoh :(02:05
adrianit ain't in the kubuntu repo's02:06
adrian*isn't02:06
ParkotronWhile we're on the topic, can you make Konsole remember the tab bar position? If I hide it or move it to the bottom it reappears at the top when I restart Konsole.02:06
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adrianyes02:06
adrianselect the option 'Save Sessionprofile as standard'02:07
adrianno wait02:07
adrianjust 'Save as standard'02:07
adrianor something like that, i'm translating from dutch :D02:07
tsdgeossave as default i'd say02:07
ParkotronOh. I'll try that. Thanks.02:07
ParkotronI found an Ubuntu Yakuake deb here: http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu/pool/universe/y/yakuake/02:08
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ParkotronNo idea whether it safe, though.02:08
jarlathAre there any caveats to upgrading the kernel? I went from 386 to 686 and now kaffeine cant read DVD's.02:09
ccc_yakuake 2.6 is in universe02:09
VincentMXwhy doesn't Kubuntu use Splashy by default instead of  USplash? Splashy looks much better and has more colors02:09
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adrianccc_: , sudo apt-cache search yakuke didn't give anytthing02:10
adrianoooh02:10
adrianyakuake02:10
adriandamn :D02:10
ccc_;)02:10
ParkotronI from what I've read I think USplash was whipped up in like 10 hours to make the Breezy deadline.02:10
HobbseeVincentMX: can i have a link to splashy please?02:11
VincentMXok02:11
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ParkotronThe author admits it's limited, but since it only has 16 colours it will run on ANY hardware.02:11
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VincentMXHobbsee: http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/doku.php02:12
HobbseeVincentMX: thanks02:12
adrianhm02:12
adriannoob question02:13
ParkotronI think they're looking to replace it with something better, but that something would have to be able to fall back on 16 colours if hardware was ancient.02:13
adrianhow do i start yakuake? :/02:13
VincentMXtype yakuake in Konsole02:13
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adriandoesnt exist02:13
VincentMXman yakuake02:13
Hobbseethat's nice!02:13
FHXHello02:13
VincentMXin konsole02:13
VincentMXyo FHX02:13
FHXDoes anybody know how I can change my keyboard layout so that when I type ' + e I get an accented e?02:14
FHXI'm having a lot of trouble with that. Before upgrading it worked fine and i could change my keyboard layout, but now I can't anymore.02:14
tsdgeosFHX: wait a mo02:14
FHXok02:14
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Ryugihello02:16
Parkotronadrian: I had to install version 2.6. 2.7.3 had crazyy dependencies.02:16
ccc_Parkotron: same here02:17
Ryugii am a kde user.i want to know what good stuff does kubuntu have ove fedora .02:17
tsdgeosFHX: you say that the kcontrol part that lets you choose the layout is empty righyt?02:17
ParkotronCrazy, that is. The weren't crazy enough to deserve two 'y's.02:17
ccc_:D02:17
adrianMe too Parkotron02:17
adrian2.6 works like a charm!02:17
ParkotronTo fix the keyboard layout bug in 3.5.1 do the following:02:18
Parkotronsudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb02:18
tsdgeosahh thanks Parkotron02:18
tsdgeosFHX: ^^^^^^^^^02:19
adriani like the way it's exactly like the Konsole02:19
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adriana silly question: how do i get applications to start on bootup02:19
adriangnome had an option for this02:19
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wrtpeepshi02:19
Ryugican some one help me out02:19
Hobbsee!+someone02:20
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>02:20
tsdgeoslol02:20
adrianyeah02:20
tsdgeosubotu: totally agree02:20
wrtpeepsI have a slight problem. When my kubuntu boots, it gets to 'checking battery state' and then stops02:20
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tsdgeos02:20
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wrtpeepsbut it says [OK]  beside battery state02:20
adriando you have a desktop?02:20
hxkohtsdgeos: right02:20
hxkohit's empty02:20
wrtpeepsand this computer isn;t a laptop, so what battery is it checking02:20
tsdgeoslol ubotu is a bot :D02:20
wrtpeepsadrian: are you talking to me there?02:21
kalinga#kbuntu-hardware02:21
adrianyes02:21
wrtpeepsadrian: yea02:21
wrtpeepsadrian: not a laptop :)02:21
adrianit checks the battery state at my box too02:21
adrianbut that's all02:21
wrtpeepsdoes it freeze?02:22
adrianjust an immediate OK and it goes on02:22
adrian no freeze02:22
wrtpeepsit has an immediate [ok] . but it does not continue02:22
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FHX1Bleh02:22
FHX1tsdgeos: can you help me with the keyboard thing?02:23
wrtpeepsi have installed on vmware, by the way02:23
wrtpeepsif that makes a difference02:23
Hobbseenight all02:23
Parkotronadrian: To make a program launch at startup, create a .desktop file for it in ~/.kde/Autostart02:23
adrianlike a shortcut?02:24
Ryugii am currently using fedora 4.what good stuff does kubuntu have02:24
tsdgeosFHX: Parkotron already answered you02:24
tsdgeos[14:18]  <Parkotron> sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb02:24
ParkotronYeah. Like a shortcut. I could paste an example if you need one.02:25
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FHX1I dont' really understand how that works02:25
adriani made a yakuake.desktop file02:25
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adrianRyugi: !!APT!!02:26
adrianso great02:26
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Ryugiok02:26
adrianyou browse around for files, see a  name, just type in sudo apt-cache search 'file' and you're bound to find something02:26
Ryugidoes APT have more packages than fedora02:26
adrianRyugi: , some Debian packages work for me02:27
adrianso i would say yes02:27
Ryugiok02:27
FHX1Parkotron: could you give me an example? i'm lost02:27
Parkotronadrian: Have you figured out if it has any settings? I'd like to resize it, but it won't let me.02:27
nimatarhi folks, if i want to add a command on boot, more specifically "$ sudo dhclient" how can i do that?02:27
adrianehh02:27
Ryugibut i see fedora has yum.don't both of them do the same thing02:27
adrianyou had some options for that02:27
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ParkotronFHX1: Could you state exactly what you're problem is?02:28
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adrianclick on the little arrow next to the cross Parkotron02:28
adrianthere you see some resizing options02:28
nimataranybody??02:28
claireb98bonjour02:28
FHX1Parkotron: Before upgrading, my keyboard layout was such that when I ty ped ' + e it would give me an accented e, same for the other alphabets. After upgrading I'm no longer able to do that, nor can I find a way to change my keyboard layout to allow me to do that.02:28
claireb98i'm looking for a chat for kunbuntu in french plse02:29
FHX1claireb98: tu parles francais?02:29
claireb98oui02:29
FHX1wow awesome02:29
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FHX1chouette XD02:29
adrianpfeh02:29
claireb98pourquoi pas de franais ici ?02:29
adrianFrancais est trop difficile pour moi :(02:29
marseillaisi si yen a02:30
FHX1je ne sais pas..02:30
claireb98salut les frenchies02:30
ParkotronIs kcontrol | Regional & Accessibility | Keyboard Layouts empty?02:30
marseillaiclaireb98: #kubuntu-fr02:30
FHX1XD je suis singaporean, pas de france02:30
claireb98merci02:30
claireb98sur freenode aussi ?02:30
marseillaivi vi02:30
claireb98bonjour  Singapour02:31
FHX1XD salut02:31
FHX1Bleh. Je besoin les accents sur mon keyboard pour taper mes devoirs T_T02:31
nimatarright now i have to do $ sudo dhclient every time i boot, is there a way to let kubuntu run dhclient automatically on boot?02:32
claireb98faut acheter un clavier franais sur internet02:32
FHX1mais non, avant de "upgrade" je pourrais.02:32
tchizehttp://tinypic.com/?pic=nn8ria  <-- openoffice 2 got crazy in my kubuntu :D02:32
FHX1mais maintenant je ne peux pas.02:33
tchizehttp://tinypic.com/view/?pic=nn8ria  <-- sorry above link wrong02:33
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Parkotronnimitar: Go to ~/.kde/Autostart and create a .desktop file for "kdesu dhclient" and let me know if it works.02:33
ParkotronThat will run it every time you start KDE, not Kubuntu.02:34
FHX1aargh.02:34
FHX1Parkotron: can you help me with my keyboard problem?02:34
nimatarParkotron, uhm... but dont' that need my password?02:34
marseillaiParkotron: it can be done in a cron or using "at"02:35
marseillainimatar: using kdesu yes you will have to type your password not using cron or at02:35
claireb98fhx1 pour remplacer tes accents qui ne figurent pas sur ton clavier utilise le code ascii02:35
claireb9802:36
claireb98alt 020102:36
FHX1Hm..02:36
ParkotronFHX1: Keyboard layouts shouldn't require your password.02:36
claireb98tu peux les trouver sur internet02:36
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FHX1mais avant j'ai tape : ' + e et j'ai un e avec l'accent02:36
marseillaiFHX1: c quoi ton clavier? cherche sur le net la config Xorg qui va bien!02:36
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claireb98essaie ce que je viens de te donner alt 020102:36
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nimatarmarseillai, thx02:37
FHX1claireb98: ca ne marche pas02:37
FHX1x.x02:37
_alexsalut a tous :D02:37
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FHX1_alex: salut02:38
FHX1Bleh02:38
marseillaieuh02:38
FHX1J'ai des devoirs pour faire T_T02:38
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nimatarmarseillai, what is at, dunno how to search it with google?02:38
FHX1mon prof. francais vas etre fache. x.x02:38
claireb98on dit " j'ai des devoirs  faire"02:38
FHX1ah, merci. ^^02:38
marseillaiFHX1: _alex claireb98 jvoudrais pas dire mais ici c un chan anglais! s'ils ralent parce que vous parlez francais ici ca serait comprehensible d'autant plus qu'un chan fr existe!!!02:38
FHX1x.x ok ok02:39
_alexau fait quelqu un peu maider sur kubuntu je vien a pein de listaller02:39
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marseillainimatar: at is a system like cron but it's able to do something "at boot" or "at stop" or "at 8pm"02:39
claireb98you must be really be cool all englisher02:39
FHX1?02:39
marseillai_alex: va sur #kubuntu-fr02:39
FHX1Say02:39
FHX1do you guys have msn or aim?02:40
gerdgruhnHi, all02:40
ninnghizidhaHello I got problems with dcopserver - if i open kate/kwrite, kde will inform me about a already running dcop-server, and that i shall delete a the .DCOPserver_File.02:40
FHX1XD then i can practice speaking french with you02:40
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ninnghizidhait just happens when i use sudo.02:40
claireb98i speak english as you speak french don't you02:40
_alexmerci02:40
gerdgruhnCan my anybody say, how I install a HP PSC2355 (Printer, Scanner)? Thanks02:40
FHX1claireb98: Do you have msn?02:40
FHX1XD02:40
claireb98yes02:40
FHX1claireb98: Can I add you?02:40
nimatarmarseillai, ok, fund it, just did $ man at :)02:41
claireb98gaim02:41
marseillaikopete powaaaaa02:41
FHX1kopete lags for me02:41
FHX1T_T02:41
claireb98as you like02:41
marseillaiclaireb98: t'es d'ou ?02:41
claireb98France02:41
marseillainon!02:41
marseillaisans rire! :)02:42
FHX1je crois que France et hypercool XD02:42
claireb98suburd of Paris02:42
FHX1claireb98: ton msn est..?02:42
claireb98is not really paradise02:42
claireb98i am connected on gaim02:42
FHX1Hm..02:43
FHX1what's your aim/msn? i will add you to my gaim02:43
claireb98claireb98@hotmail.fr02:43
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FHX1claireb98: Okay I added you02:47
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claireb98'im going on kubuntu-fr02:47
claireb98bye02:47
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nimatarcan't find a way of using at to execute a cammand at boot :\02:53
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nimatarmaybe i should use the init scripts?02:55
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Pyrobobmy superkarama hates me...03:12
Pyrobobit won't load liquied weather.03:12
Pyrobobliuid*03:12
Pyrobob...03:12
Pyrobobliquid*03:12
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nimatar:P03:12
marseillaiyou have the last liquid weather version ?03:12
Pyroboblol03:12
Pyrobobthink so03:13
Pyrobobit was working last night03:13
Pyrobobthen just.... stopped03:13
marseillaicheck this!03:13
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marseillaii had this problem03:13
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Pyrobobhow do I fix it?03:13
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marseillaiPyrobob: download the last  liquid weather theme and start this one you will loose your configuration but it should work03:14
Pyrobobdo it through superkaramba? or no03:15
Pyrobobbecause I can't isntall themes when I download through superkaramba03:15
Pyrobobsays somthing about permissions03:15
marseillaino03:15
Pyrobobk03:15
marseillaithrough kde-look03:15
ParkotronDoes anyone here use knemo, the network monitor service? I enjoy it quite a bit, but since I upgraded to 3.5.* it keeps disappearing from the systray. I have to stop and restart the service to get it to appear. Any ideas?03:17
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fjellrev1Mplayer doesnt want to play videos in fullscreen allthough I press fullscreen,anyone have any solutions to this?03:18
nomad16fjellrev1: what about starting mplayer with -fs ?03:20
fjellrev1mkay,lets see if my noob ass can handle this :)03:20
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StargazersHi03:20
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StargazersCan anyone help me with my problem. I dont know how, but I lost my KDE and kubuntu-desktop have no installation possibilities? What I can do, now I should use gnome :S03:21
StargazersThe problem is that how I can install KDE back?03:21
StargazersE: Package kubuntu-desktop has no installation candidate03:22
StargazersThis is the error message what it will say...03:22
nomad16Stargazers: try adding the installation CD to your package management system with apt-cdrom, and then give it another go?  Just an idea03:23
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StargazersUh, it is possible to download and use that file on hard disk, I have no cd now :S03:23
nomad16Stargazers: what sort of net connection do you have?03:24
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Stargazers2M / 60003:25
StargazersI can download it of course fully, I put it to download, 206kb/s...03:25
StargazerskB of course03:25
nomad16Stargazers: what do you have listed in your /etc/apt/sources.lst ?03:25
Stargazersdeb ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu breezy main03:26
StargazersOnly that03:26
StargazersI have tried many things, but I have no idea what else should I add03:26
StargazersI removed libavahi packages when I tried to update it and it removed ALL of my KDE files :S03:27
nomad16Stargazers: I would try another repository then, maybe breezy-backports (http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/) instead, and try that?  Not sure what version of KDE you'll get, but a quick serch of the site should let you know...03:27
StargazersUh... so what kind of deb file it should be? deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/ breezy main03:28
StargazersLike that?03:28
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nomad16Stargazers: yeah something like that, but remember to apt-get update before you try to install anything ... But you knew that anyway ;-)03:30
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nomad16Gotta run, thumderstorm a' comin', so it's time to shutdown...  Wish I had a good UPS.03:30
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StargazersUh...03:35
StargazersDid not work :S03:35
StargazersDoes anyone else have any ideas?03:35
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visik7well I've installed dapper flight cd 3 and say to it use the largest contiguous free space and it format my hd03:36
visik7WTF ?03:36
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adrianHiya all03:48
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Howitzerpfoe03:52
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Howitzeri like Konversation more then XChat03:53
Howitzerdon't know why03:53
ccc_of course, it's kde. =)03:53
systIs the folder var/cache/apt/archives needed because it's taking up like 600MB?03:55
visik7I've suid cdrecord and cdrdao enabled dma on cd writer but dev buffer attempt to underrun when using other apps somebody can tell me what to do ?03:55
Howitzerhehe03:56
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Howitzeri wish it had an option for a different color for your own writings though03:56
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ccc_Howitzer: it does, i believe03:57
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ccc_Howitzer: pick a color in notification > highlight > always highlight own lines04:00
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systIs the folder var/cache/apt/archives needed because it's taking up like 600MB? anyone??04:09
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angasule!wine04:11
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bobbyd_hi, how do i enable burning mp3s to an audio cd in k3b?04:11
Tm_Tubotu: tell bobbyd_ about mp304:12
bobbyd_Tm_T, I can *play* mp3s...04:12
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angasule!mp304:13
Glin|JolWinamp not Running04:13
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:13
angasulebobbyd_: what ubotu said04:13
bobbyd_angasule, I don't see anything specifically on that page about burning mp3s with k3b04:14
visik7aptitude install k3b-mp304:15
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visik7not so difficult to find out04:16
bobbyd_visik7, :)04:16
bobbyd_visik7, thanks04:16
visik7np04:16
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Howitzerhow can i get yakuake to be a tiiiiny bit lower?04:19
Howitzerbecause my taskbar is on the upper side and it's covering a bit of yakuake04:19
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praveenhi all04:20
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Pyrobobmy clock keeps managing to re-set itself04:20
_sergiohi, do you know any dvd-ripping tool?04:20
praveenhey guys, any ideas why kubuntu has got many pachages broken for KDE 3.5.1?04:21
ParkotronHowitzer: On the KDE-Apps.org page there's a guy who made a patch to do that, but you'd have to recompile it yourself.04:21
Howitzerrecompile, like in ./configure make and all?04:21
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hatake_kakashi_sergio: acidrip, but you need to get mplayer and mencoder properly configured04:21
_sergiothanks kakashi-sensei ;)04:22
Pyrobobhatake_kakashi... thats the coolest name I've seen on this channel.04:22
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hatake_kakashiPyrobob: huh -_-04:22
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PyrobobxD04:22
hatake_kakashianyway I need to catch some shuteye04:22
Pyrobobseriously though. my clock keeps managing to re-set itself04:23
hatake_kakashi 01:25:22 up 8 days,  7:44,  1 user,  load average: 0.47, 1.34, 1.2404:23
Howitzerlol04:23
ParkotronHowitzer: Not to mention you'd have to know how to apply a patch. It's beyond my skill/effort level.04:23
HowitzerPyrobob: , maybe GMT things?04:23
Pyrobobtried that04:23
Pyrobobscrewed with everything on the clock to try to fix it04:23
Pyrobobit was working right until I tried installing a few screensavers04:24
Howitzerwait04:24
Howitzerunclick 'adjust time x date automaticly'04:24
Howitzer:D04:24
Pyrobob...04:24
Howitzeryou tried that? :s04:24
Pyrobobthink I might have missed that checkbox04:24
Pyrobobcuz I never saw it <_<;04:25
Howitzeri'm going to hit you if you did04:25
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Pyrobobno it was never checked04:25
Howitzeroh04:25
Pyrobobor it would be checked right now04:25
Pyrobobnever saw it until now so I am guessing by default its gotta x in the box04:25
Pyrobobit doesn't04:25
Howitzeris the right timezone in place?04:25
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Pyrobobthink so04:26
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Pyrobobnot a clue04:27
PyrobobxD04:27
Pyrobobthere's like 40 thousand "america" ones and don't know which one I need04:27
Howitzerehh04:27
Howitzerthat's the problem probably -_-04:27
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Howitzerwhat time is it at your place now04:27
Pyrobobprolly04:27
Pyrobob9:31 AM04:27
Pyrobobclock says 15:2704:28
HowitzerSunday?04:28
Pyrobobyeah04:28
Howitzerwell04:28
Howitzeryour clock is set to GMT04:28
Howitzersince i'm at GMT+1 and it's 16:27 here04:28
PyrobobUTC04:28
Howitzerat the installation of Kubuntu, they give you the time and ask you if it is Local or GMT04:29
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Howitzerwhat did you choose.04:29
jarlathCan some04:29
Pyrobobthink I chose local I don't remmeber04:29
Pyrobobremember*04:29
jarlathexcuse me :) Can someone tell me what this means? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55123504:29
Howitzerrun sudo apt-get update and try again04:30
Howitzer'W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems', try to follow the tips when given errors :D04:31
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jarlathHowitzer: I did. Several time.04:31
PyrobobxD04:31
Howitzerweird04:31
Howitzerwhat do you get when you do sudo apt-get update?04:32
LinuxJonesCan someone recommend a bittorrent client for kde ?04:32
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PyrobobKtorrent04:32
Pyrobobworks great for me04:32
LinuxJonesPyrobob: thank you04:32
_gurii'm having some problems playing mp3 with any default players (Kaffeine AmoaK04:33
Howitzer_guri: , you need the codecs04:33
_gurilike "lame"?04:33
_guribecause...basically I am a *nix n00b04:33
jarlathHowitzer: heres the full output http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55123904:33
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Pyrobobn.n04:34
Howitzerhow did you do it?04:34
angasulePyrobob: I name thee The Chronomaster!04:34
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jarlathHowitzer: me?04:34
PyrobobI switched the timezone to chicago04:35
Pyrobobapparently their central...04:35
Pyrobobnever knew that04:35
Howitzer:D04:35
DavidKohuthi, have you some experience with TV-out on IBM laptop? Should I have intel-graphic driver?04:35
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Howitzerjarlath: , i have actually no idea what to do04:35
Howitzerlet me check my own sources file04:35
Pyrobobwould have never thought about switching it to chicago time, for I live in texas... kinda cross country04:35
_guriso, with these codecs? i do what? and where do i get them from?04:35
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jarlathHowitzer: no problem. Thanks.04:36
Howitzer!codecs04:36
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories04:36
Howitzer!easysource04:36
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:36
_gurity ubotu!04:36
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Howitzer:D04:36
Howitzerubotu is one ownage bot04:37
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Howitzer04:37
_guri!codecs04:37
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angasule!restricted_formats04:37
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, angasule04:37
angasule!mp304:37
Glin|JolWinamp not Running04:37
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:37
Howitzerhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:37
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Howitzertry this jarlath04:37
jarlathThanks Howitzer04:38
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Howitzerman04:40
Howitzeri love kde-apps.org04:40
Howitzerjust discovered it04:40
Howitzerlovely site04:40
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Howitzerdo you extract a bz2 package by tar -xjvf ?04:43
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angasuleHowitzer: yes04:48
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=== Cygnus_X1 saluta tutti e stacca
angasulehmm, in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine it says to add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/", it should be "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt breezy binary" for kubuntu, I guess?04:49
angasuleciao, Cygnus_X104:50
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skypagreetings04:51
robotgeekangasule: if you know it to be correct, feel free to correct04:51
Howitzerwoot04:51
angasulerobotgeek: I don't, I'm asking :D04:51
HowitzerKplayer is the FIRST media player that doesn't crash on me04:52
angasulerobotgeek: plus, that's the *ubuntu* wiki, so 'correcting' would be 'wronging'04:52
robotgeekangasule: okay :)04:52
skypaI was wondering.. is there a tool like fraps available to capture videos of what happens at the desktop? (i.e. for training purposes)04:52
Howitzerhmm04:52
robotgeekangasule: what do you mean?04:52
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Howitzermaybe04:52
Howitzeri'll google for it04:52
robotgeekskypa: istanbul, vnc2swf and several others04:52
skypaty sir04:52
robotgeekskypa: let me give you a nice link :)04:53
skypabe my guest ^^04:53
robotgeekskypa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127534 has list of all tools :)04:53
Howitzerooh04:53
Howitzerneed it too04:53
Howitzerty robotgeek04:53
skypabeautiful04:54
skypathanks again robotgeek :>04:54
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FunnyLookinHatI just installed kubuntu, and I'm used to using the Gnome based ubuntu...  what do I find for synaptic in kubuntu??04:55
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MetaMorfoziS!firefox1.504:55
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:55
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robotgeek!adept04:56
ubotuadept is, like, totally, a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:56
MetaMorfoziShi all04:56
MetaMorfoziS:)04:56
FunnyLookinHatThanks!04:56
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FunnyLookinHatman, I'm so glad I switched to kubuntu04:57
angasuleFunnyLookinHat: what did you use before?04:58
_nexushow do you change the bootsplash theme in kubuntu, ive tryed searching google, n the ubuntu forums, but i still cant work it out, i know you have to compile them and as far as i can work out they are stored in /usr/lib/usplash , but how do i change it?04:59
FunnyLookinHatangasule: ubuntu, and before that just basic debian.04:59
FunnyLookinHatangasule: but i've always used gnome for some silly resaon04:59
FunnyLookinHatAnyone know why GAIM isn't available in the repositories??04:59
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robotgeek!info gaim04:59
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB04:59
angasuleFunnyLookinHat: it's available04:59
FunnyLookinHatI just need to add universe dont I05:00
FunnyLookinHatI'm off my game today, sorry05:00
angasuleheh05:00
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juansebastianhola05:01
angasulehola05:01
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Cygnus_X1Grido con tutta la mia forza ma sembra che tutto finisca in /dev/null05:02
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FunnyLookinHatOk wow, yea KDE tools just seem to have a better interface to them than Gnome.  Anyways, thanks for the help everyone!05:02
_nexushow do you change the bootsplash theme05:03
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slow-motionhallo05:03
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angasulehi slow-motion05:05
slow-motionhi angasule05:05
_sebastianhey05:05
_sebastianwas azureus updated just now?05:05
_nexushow do you change the bootsplash theme in kubuntu, ive tryed searching google, n the ubuntu forums, but i still cant work it out, i know you have to compile them and as far as i can work out they are stored in /usr/lib/usplash , but how do i change it?05:06
robotgeeki think so, 2.4 or something, looks nice05:06
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_sebastianrobotgeek: did it update correctly on your side?05:06
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_sebastianmine keeps popping up with a msg05:06
angasule_nexus: don't know05:07
robotgeekyeah, it updated automagically. it had some problem with the swt stuff, i did not bother much05:07
_sebastianyea the SWT stuff doesn't want to update05:07
MetaMorfoziShow can i enable the 3drendering on my laptop?05:07
MetaMorfoziSwith s3 graphics?05:07
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_sebastiani guess shiouldn't be bothered05:07
MetaMorfoziSthe glxgears is very slow05:08
robotgeeknah, who cares about looks when it downloads correctly!05:08
_sebastianyeh, right you are05:08
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luisitowell hello peopleee!!!05:08
beefsprocketindeed it was05:08
luisitois there a p2p software like emule but for kde?05:09
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luisitobut no amule.05:10
luisitosomething better05:10
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_sebastianamule does the trick for me05:13
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_sebastiani just realised i am a p2p "whore", how sad is that:}05:13
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redondosHello. I've got problems issuing DCOP commands. Here's how. Can anyone please tell me why? http://pastebin.com/55129105:14
_sebastiannah...when i think about i don't download that much.05:15
visik7are u running kde ? redondos05:15
visik7is the same user ?05:15
redondosyes, and yes05:15
visik7other dcop commands works ?05:15
redondosnope.05:16
luisitolll05:16
wrtpeepsi was wondering if someone could help me with a problem. When i try to boot my kubuntu install on vmware, it gets to 'checking battery state    [ok] ' and then stops. Anyone else having this problem?05:16
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angasuleredondos: typing 'dcop' in a konsole fails?05:17
redondosYes.05:17
redondosSame error.05:17
redondosIdeas?05:18
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angasuleredondos: is the dcop server running?05:19
angasuletype "ps -A | grep dcop"05:19
redondosredondos  8269  0.0  0.3  24488  1932 ?        S    03:04   0:09 dcopserver [kdeinit]  --nosid05:20
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angasulewell, no idea, it just seems like the clients can't connect to the server05:21
redondosyup, it does05:21
redondosdoes anyone know the dcop internals?05:21
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angasulemaybe you'll have better luck asking elsewhere, I know kde apps use a lot of dcop, so maybe #kde :/05:23
redondosI'm in there.05:24
redondosBut nobody seems to follow. :)05:24
redondosthanks anyway, angasule05:25
angasuleyou're welcome, sorry I was of no use05:25
redondosoh, shut up :)05:25
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Howitzerehh05:27
damnhilI do I restore my synaptics touchpad functionality after I resume from a suspend?05:27
Howitzersudo apt-get install build-essentials doesn't work :/05:28
Howitzernvm05:28
Howitzerit's build-essential :-)05:29
marseillaiRiddell: i've maid this bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/30579 but it seems hibernate work with gnome! so this must be a klaptopdaemon bug!05:29
redondosdamnhil: Are you using software suspend 2?05:30
marseillaino05:30
redondosThen what?05:30
marseillaii don't wank make a kernel compilation05:30
redondosIn-kernel software suspend?05:30
redondosThen I don't know. swsusp2 is what I use.05:30
damnhilredondos: yes05:30
marseillaiyou did a kernel compilation to use it redondos ?05:30
damnhilredondos: Do you have the same problem?05:30
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FunnyLookinHatis Konversation just an implementation of xchat?05:33
marseillainop FunnyLookinHat05:33
FunnyLookinHatoh ok05:34
marseillairedondos: can i have in dapper swsusp2 without make a kernel-compilation ?05:34
redondosmarseillai: yeah, after patching the kernel source tree05:34
redondosmarseillai: I don't think so, no.05:35
marseillaiarf!05:35
marseillai:s05:35
marseillaioki thanks05:35
redondosnp.05:35
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Howitzerjeezes05:37
Howitzeri'm trying to install ksmoothdock05:38
Howitzerand i constantly have to apt-get stuff to make it work05:38
Howitzernew version of automake, new version of autoconf, new version of bla bla bla05:38
marseillairedondos: do you have an idea why one of my friend with the same laptop can use hibernate with ubuntu out of the box and why me i can't with Kubuntu out of the box ?05:39
Howitzeroh great05:39
Howitzerthe repo's don't have the latest automake05:39
redondosHowitzer: Caveats of using a binary distribution. Oh, wait, that is *expected*. :)05:39
Howitzer:(05:39
damnhilmarseillai, redondos: What's the laptop model?05:39
Howitzeroooh05:39
Howitzerthey DO have automake1.605:39
Howitzerit's just not the default automake05:40
marseillaidamnhil: mine is a msi S260 http://forum.hardware.fr/forum2.php?config=hardwarefr.inc&cat=15&post=16435&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=3&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=005:40
redondosmarseillai: Hardware varies. I'd say one (or more) of the modules that you use to make your system tick has issues when returning from a suspension. With swsusp2 you could tweak it a little further. What is exactly the problem on your box?05:40
Howitzerwooohoo05:40
Howitzerit works for now!05:40
redondosdamnhil: HP Pavilion zv5370us05:40
damnhilmarseillai, redondos: My touchpad's srolling function sometimes does not work after resume from suspend2/hibernate.05:41
redondosHowitzer: sweet :)05:41
marseillairedondos: hibernate seems to work fine! but at boot nothing happen only a "normal boot" : my malone-bug-report : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/3057905:42
redondosdamnhil: What happens if you restart the X server? (that will close KDE completely) You can quickly do that by pressing control+alt+backspace.05:42
redondosmarseillai: Well, yeah. It looks like you need swsusp2 :)05:42
marseillailol05:42
marseillaicooooolllllll05:42
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redondosI'm not that experienced with the previous patches.05:42
redondosThey never did any good on my systems.05:43
damnhilredondos: I think it will restore. I did hibernate again and the touchpad's scrolling functionality was restored05:43
marseillaii never succeed to compil a kernel!05:43
redondosdamnhil: Looks like a module loading problem to me.05:43
redondosmarseillai: Don't be a wanker, it's god damn easy. :)05:43
redondosmarseillai: You get to know your hardware a little better.05:43
marseillailol05:43
marseillaithis is the problem! :D05:44
damnhilredondos: how can I reload the synaptics module?05:44
marseillaii'll try05:44
redondosI said you *get* to know it better.05:44
redondosdamnhil: Unfortunately, restarting the X server. Unless... there is some other way that I don't know about, but I don't think so.05:44
damnhilredondos: why did you condemn marseillai wanker?05:45
redondoshehe, I was just kidding.05:45
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Howitzeraargh05:50
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Howitzerit doesn't work05:50
Howitzeri always get the error that my X includes aren't good05:50
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tomplasthi everyone05:56
tomplastcan anyone help me getting cups working in kubuntu 6.04 (dapper drake)05:56
tomplast?05:56
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_davidAnyone else here have the audio/video not sync on video.google.com correctly ever?06:13
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mastrosoftque que isso?06:17
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MetaMorfoziS_david:  for me it's work good06:19
MetaMorfoziShttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-301089185358659660306:19
MetaMorfoziSlol:DD06:19
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_davidstrange06:23
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derekshow do i add unrar-free so that it works with ark?06:27
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EightiesK!tar06:28
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dereksEightiesK: rar not ta06:29
dereksr06:29
EightiesK!rar06:29
ubotufrom memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression06:29
EightiesKtar sends it to me only06:29
dereksthanks06:29
_guiguihow can i join  the french irc06:30
jpatrick_guigui: #kubuntu-fr ?06:30
EightiesKkubuntu-fr06:30
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pmkernel 2.6.15.x and no bootsplash, why????06:33
MetaMorfoziSthe links isn't opens the default browser (firefox) from thunderbird06:34
MetaMorfoziSany idea?06:34
vgesomebody uses tilda in KDE?06:35
MetaMorfoziS~?06:35
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vgeMetaMorfoziS: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90475.html try that one06:37
MetaMorfoziSthx! i work on it06:39
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EightiesKhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55139206:41
EightiesKI was installing kopete06:42
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Tm_Toh my06:48
jpatrick...goodness06:49
Tm_Tthat eightiesk is sort of pain in my ass06:49
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jpatrickeh?06:50
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Tm_Tcome popping to channels asking and waiting answer a whole MINUTE06:50
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MetaMorfoziShmm for me it's not work06:55
MetaMorfoziSthe thunderbird isn't spawns firefox06:55
MetaMorfoziSwhen i click a link at it06:55
visik7me too06:55
MetaMorfoziSand anybody know about the solution?:D06:56
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redondosIs Firefox your default browser?06:57
baverI'm trying to install kubuntu off the dvd image, however, when trying to install the base system, a number of "could not retrieve" errors flash by, then a "Base system installation error" pops up, says to check a log that doesn't exist. Any ideas?06:57
MetaMorfoziSyes06:57
redondos(http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/11680.html)06:57
redondosThunderbird might have an option to override it, look for it.06:57
MetaMorfoziSyes i know, under win i saw it06:58
MetaMorfoziSbut i'm not ofund it under lin.06:58
redondoshttp://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html06:58
redondosThat explains it well.06:59
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MetaMorfoziSit's old07:01
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MetaMorfoziSbut for me work all other apps07:01
MetaMorfoziSopens the firefox07:01
MetaMorfoziSexcept the thudnerbird.07:01
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sneodi have a problem when i type apt-get update07:03
sneodi will paste the output online ......07:04
Tm_Tsneod: paste to pastebin07:04
sneodhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55141807:05
Tm_Tsneod: only warning, ignore ;(07:05
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Enchanter_timhello07:07
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Enchanter_timive run into a slight problem. ive updated hoary to breezy a while ago, but now the automount of usb-sticks doesnt seem to work anymore07:08
codingismy9to5Is it possible to install Kubuntu (5.10) on a slave hard drive?  I forced lilo to install on primary MBR, but the 2nd install phase just dumps to busybox07:08
Enchanter_timis there something that i need to change for this?07:08
sneodi'll paste it in #pastebin07:09
sneodTm_T,  do you mean that is all that showed07:09
sneodbrb07:10
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suadeoI just did a fresh install on my mac mini, but when I get to X, my cursor is fine, everything else is all twisted and skewed. I have a 20.1" dell 2005fwp monitor. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?07:13
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nijanhello, I want to connect myself using bluetooth + nokia 664007:21
nijanops, to internet, but I've no idea where to start from07:21
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Enchanter_timok, it seems that the konqueror media:/ kio_slave doesnt pick up the usb disk07:22
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dressed_in_blackhello all07:23
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fyzixWhy is it that kubuntu users doesn't have access to firefox 1.5 through apt-get?07:24
jpatrickfyzix: archives are frozen07:25
jpatrick!firefox1.507:25
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:25
MetaMorfoziSjpatrick: why frozen?07:25
MetaMorfoziSi understand the stable versions only in the package lists07:25
MetaMorfoziSbut why frozen?07:25
jpatrickMetaMorfoziS: because Breezy was released ages ago07:26
jpatrickonly security fixes etc07:26
MetaMorfoziSbut not only the breezy repositories in the world07:26
MetaMorfoziSi've added some other07:26
fyzixwhat does it mean its frozen?07:26
MetaMorfoziSand nowhere ff1.507:26
jpatrickI'm going for supper07:26
MetaMorfoziShow years old the breezy?07:27
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kkathmanMetaMorfoziS: breezy is about 4 months old07:27
fyzixwell. firefox 1.5 is kinda a security fix isn't it? I mean... then it should be available via multiverse/universe07:27
fyzixthats not very old07:28
MetaMorfoziSit's strange...07:28
kkathmanubuntu is about 2 years old or so, breezy is just the latest version.07:28
kkathmanversion are released roughly twice per year.07:28
kkathmanwarty was the first release, then hoary, then breezy, and dapper will be in April.07:29
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fyzixbrrr... I think, it would be a lot easier to just upgrade to firefox 1.5, or at least make it optional through apptitude07:31
kkathmanfirefox is relatively easy to install tho.07:32
kkathmanyou download it from their site, untar it in your home directory, then set a symlink in /usr/bin07:32
fyzixyeah. I know, but I would like that it just upgraded automatically through apt-get, so I didn't have to do anything other than write adept-updater07:33
kkathmanprograms in the repositories are put there, and typically not updated until the next release, unless there is a critical bug, or security issue.07:33
MetaMorfoziSafter i upgraded to 3.5.1 kde in kcontrols isn't lists the keyboardmappings07:33
MetaMorfoziSwhat i need?07:34
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GameOver69hey guys how do i install the new azureus 2.4 in kubuntu07:34
Enchanter_timkkathman: there is a security issue in ff 1.507:35
Enchanter_timremote code execution07:35
kkathmannot that I know of07:35
fyzixMetaMorfoziS do you mean the Keyboard Layout?07:35
Enchanter_tim(i can confirm this on a breezy system)07:35
fyzixEnchanter_tim well ok, 1.5.1 then07:36
Enchanter_timkkathman: the code has been added to metasploit recently07:36
kkathmanif you find something, please report a bug to Firefox07:36
MetaMorfoziSkeyboard mapping sorry07:36
MetaMorfoziSso i have hungarian07:36
Enchanter_timheh, they have been notified :)07:36
kkathmanok07:36
MetaMorfoziSbut the language menu and the keyboard mapping07:37
kkathmanthere is a 1.5.0.1 out there07:37
MetaMorfoziSis there a list07:37
Enchanter_timkkathman: indeed07:37
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MetaMorfoziSwhere i can add a lot of languages07:37
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Enchanter_timbut not in the repositories i think07:37
MetaMorfoziSto the "active mapping"07:37
MetaMorfoziSand the first list is empty07:37
Enchanter_tim(running dapper here, not breezy, so i cant confirm this at the moment)07:37
Enchanter_timand yeah, was running breezy intill a few minutes ago on the other system, but im now upgrading that one as well07:38
bugaMetaMorfoziS: same here07:38
MetaMorfoziSfyzix where can i fill it with languages?07:38
fyzixMetaMorfoziS actually, my keyboard layout list is  pretty blank too07:39
MetaMorfoziSyes, you use 3.5.1 kde?07:39
fyzixyeah07:39
Enchanter_timmy little brother cant seem to access his usbkey, and it seems that the issue is in kde (and itsnt fixed properly)07:39
MetaMorfoziSthe normal, notupgraded kde-s list isn't empty.07:39
bozis there anyway to upgrade from brezzy to dapper from the command line???07:39
bugaMetaMorfoziS: 3.5.1 and dapper07:39
fyzixcountry/region & language, is that what you mean?07:39
MetaMorfoziSyes07:39
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Enchanter_timboz, the easy way is to replace almost everything breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list , eth do an apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade07:40
Enchanter_tims/eth/then/07:40
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Enchanter_timthe upgrade will download almost 700 Mb. so it isnt very quick ;)07:41
bozenchanter, tim  i should of said an easy way lol07:41
MetaMorfoziShttp://metamorfozis.hu/p/lay.png07:42
Enchanter_timboz: that is the easy way i think :D07:42
MetaMorfoziSi think this ^^07:42
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fyzixMetaMorfoziS I think to get more languages, you just do: apt-cache search ubuntu language07:43
bozi finally got all the issues worked out from  the breezy install, i'm kinda still in the Post tramatic stress syndrome! lmao07:43
MetaMorfoziSand how can i install it?07:43
GameOver69hey how do i fix the font to not look like they are interlocking in open office menus07:43
tininanyone knows a program to format usb devices???07:43
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jerwarefellaz07:44
tinina simply mp3 player07:44
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tininfrom the kde menu07:44
fyzixsudo apt-get install language-support-[language code]  (forexample da for danish)07:44
MetaMorfoziSoh yes07:44
MetaMorfoziSit said i have the newer version07:45
Enchanter_timboz: well, it isnt hard.07:45
jerwareim thinking about ditching fedora.  looking for a debian based distro, where multimedia is easy to play and setup/configure, such as music, dvd's, movies.07:45
jerwareand would be nice it it hosted services but i can always have strait debian on my server07:45
Enchanter_timboz: during the upgrade you might get some questions about what you want some packages to do, but those are easy07:45
fyzixthen, I have no Idea07:45
jerwaremostly mulitmedia friendly and the configuration programs would have to be scripts and not gui's07:45
bozi'm finally get the hang of it but its been like learning dutch, lol07:46
jerwareis kubuntu the distro to have?07:46
tininyes07:46
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jerwaretinin: you talkin to me ?07:46
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tininyes07:47
MetaMorfoziSi'm tryed to reinstall07:47
MetaMorfoziSbut it'sn ot soluted yet07:47
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HowitzerHow do i get glxgears to show the FPS?07:47
jerwaretinin: are configureation programs scripts (as bash scripting examples)?  and is kubuntu multimedia friendly?07:48
tininyes07:48
tininyes07:48
tininyes07:48
jerwarenice!! all that stuff in fedora is guis and a bitch to work with07:48
tininonly one fucking problem, midis07:48
jerwarewhat07:48
kkathmantinin: please watch the language07:48
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tininsimply midis, wich can be handled by the simpliest device, but not by my kubuntu07:49
jerwarecan kubuntu host networking services, such as dsn, dhcp, ssh vsftpd, or is it a desktop distro rather than a server distro.  if not i can alway install debian 3.1 on  my server but im just curios.07:49
jerwareprimarily i need this for my laptop07:49
kkathmanjerware:  yes of course07:49
jerwaregreat!!07:50
MetaMorfoziSif i start kcontrol forom terminal07:50
MetaMorfoziSit said when i'm go to the listing07:50
MetaMorfoziSmeta@metagepe:~$ kcontrol: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fi                  x the program07:50
jerwaresorry for the silly questions,  im migrating from fedora and am fed up   >:P07:50
kkathmanjerware:  (k)ubuntu is an off shoot of debian, so typically anything there is available here, with some exceptions07:50
jerwareok07:50
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jerwareif i find a book on ubuntu, can that apply to kubuntu?  or even a book  on Debian?07:51
tininthe ubuntu guide is great07:51
tininon internet07:51
tininit aplies also to kubuntu07:51
kkathmanjerware: There is actually a very good debian on line07:51
kkathmankubuntu is just ubunutu + KDE - Gnome07:52
jerwareoh ok, cause  i cant find kbuntu speciffic books07:52
jerwareahh gotcha07:52
kkathmansorry I mean a good Debian BOOK on line07:52
jerwarereally!!07:52
MetaMorfoziSYEEEAH07:52
jerwarei was looking at this  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593270690/sr=8-3/qid=1139770306/ref=pd_bbs_3/103-7522315-7416611?%5Fencoding=UTF807:53
kkathmanjerware: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/07:53
MetaMorfoziSATTENTION, THE PROBLEM ABOUT THE LOCALES AFTER UPGRADING TO THE 3.5.1 ARE SOLVED07:53
jerwarenice07:53
MetaMorfoziShttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/3029507:53
jerwarecool thanx i love free stuff07:53
kkathmanjerware:  why buy a book when its free :)07:53
jerwareim a poor college kid07:53
kkathmanhehe07:53
MetaMorfoziSyeeeahw07:53
jerwarethanx pal  :P07:53
kkathmannp07:53
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MetaMorfoziSwhere i can add to the bot?07:55
MetaMorfoziS!commands?07:55
ubotucommands is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/07:55
Howitzeradrian@lckwd:~$ glxgears -printfps07:55
HowitzerWarrning: unknown parameter: -printfps07:55
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tininplease, anyone knows a program to format usb devices like kfloppy or similar???07:56
MetaMorfoziScfdisk?07:56
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MetaMorfoziScfdisk /media/usbdisk ?07:57
MetaMorfoziSor /dev/foo?07:57
MetaMorfoziS(sudo)07:57
tininwell...07:57
tinini mean something grafical07:57
tinineasier...07:57
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MetaMorfoziScfdisk i think not too difficult07:57
MetaMorfoziSi think you haven't got any lostable thing, so try it:)07:58
tininlike formatting it from konqueror07:58
MetaMorfoziS...07:58
tininEl disco abierto es de slo lectura; no tiene permiso para escribir en l07:58
MetaMorfoziSitt angolul beszlj bazdmeg07:58
tininthat is what cfdisk says07:58
jerwarehow often does kubuntu update?07:58
tininit means07:59
jerwarea friend told me like every other day07:59
jerwaremabey that was another distro07:59
tininoppened disk is read only,07:59
MetaMorfoziSyou mounted it readonly07:59
MetaMorfoziSnot?07:59
tininsomething like kfloppy?? for usb07:59
MetaMorfoziSor other way you can rw it?07:59
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MetaMorfoziSread & write08:00
tininit's the first time i try08:00
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tinini suppose i'll add a line to fstab08:00
jerwareis debian known to be used in the corporate world?08:00
tininbut i don't know what to do08:00
tininor write there08:01
MetaMorfoziSmy kubuntu is accept it automatically08:01
MetaMorfoziSmount auto...08:01
kkathmanjerware: not as much as say RedHat or SuSE08:01
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tininyes mine too08:01
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MetaMorfoziSso i'm not need to add any lines to fstab08:01
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tininif it is formatted08:01
MetaMorfoziSand you can write?08:01
MetaMorfoziSyou can copy sg to your drive?08:01
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tininyes08:01
tininit writes08:01
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MetaMorfoziSok , a moment please i backup it:)08:02
tinincan someone tell me the line to put in fstab08:02
tininwhat it's like08:02
MetaMorfoziSif you can read & write08:02
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MetaMorfoziSyou not need to add lines..08:02
MetaMorfoziSs-08:02
tininso then i can use from amarok08:02
MetaMorfoziSis your pendrive vfat?08:03
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tininand from amarok to view as if it were a high priced mp3 player (ipod)08:03
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tinini need a mountig point or something08:03
MetaMorfoziSoh ipod...08:04
tininis vfat08:04
MetaMorfoziSi think ipod have the feel itune program08:04
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MetaMorfoziSmy pd is simple08:04
MetaMorfoziSbut vfat...08:05
tinini think amarok can handle this devices, isn't it?08:05
MetaMorfoziSi'm last formatted it under wind08:05
MetaMorfoziSi don't know08:05
tinin???08:05
MetaMorfoziSi'm not using amarok08:05
MetaMorfoziSwindows^^08:05
MetaMorfoziSright click -> format:)08:05
tininyou simply drag and drop?08:05
tininyeah!08:05
tinini wanted that08:06
MetaMorfoziSyeah...08:06
MetaMorfoziSi simply drag & drop08:06
MetaMorfoziSthing under win and under lin..08:06
tininright click would be great08:06
MetaMorfoziSi heard about ipod's itunes08:06
MetaMorfoziSyou under windows?08:06
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tininno i'm under kubuntu08:07
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MetaMorfoziSwhere you found format option @ right click?:)08:08
MetaMorfoziSor i'm don't understand you?08:08
tininand the mp3 is a simply card reader (15 euros!)08:08
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MetaMorfoziSoh i thinked you have ipod...08:08
_martinhhello everybody08:08
MetaMorfoziShy _martin08:08
tinini found kfloppy to format floppy drives this way, i'm searching something similar08:09
_martinhhi meta08:09
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_martinhnow working here with a 5.1 kubuntu08:09
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MetaMorfoziS3.5.1:)08:09
_martinhyeah :D08:09
tininare you a lucky guy with an ipod08:09
tinin??08:09
Tm_T_martin: 5.10 not 5.108:09
MetaMorfoziSno...08:09
_martinhyeeeeess08:10
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_martinhains08:10
suadeoi just installed kubuntu on my mac mini. when x starts up, my cursors is fine but everything else is all skewed. I have the modelines and everything.08:10
_martinhwell, whatever, is a pretty easy installable distro08:10
_martinhbut...08:10
MetaMorfoziSit's too expensive and too posh08:10
_martinhwhen you update....08:10
tinini know08:10
_martinhall media disappear!!!08:10
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_martinhamazing08:11
tininyeah08:11
jpatrick_martinh: ?08:11
_martinhyes08:11
_martinhi cannot access to my disks08:11
tininthat problem under media:08:11
jpatrickmedia:/ ?08:11
_martinhyes08:11
jpatrickfixed in Dapper08:11
_martinhand also al mime is gone with the wind08:11
_martinhdapper??08:11
jpatrick!dapper08:11
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.08:11
tininis there a way to fix it in breezy??08:11
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_martinhyes, please, i don't want to install that drapper unstable thing... yet08:12
MetaMorfoziSi' have avs cube 512mb with gray body08:12
MetaMorfoziSi'm like it08:12
tininhave you got any problem with it, MetaMorfoziS?08:13
MetaMorfoziSno:)08:13
_martinhlook, i was looking for a good stable, easyinstallation distro, for a education project an d08:13
MetaMorfoziSbut i said that because it's very simply and small08:14
tininand how do you format it?08:14
tinincfdisk?08:14
_martinhi thought kubuntu was going ok,but...08:14
MetaMorfoziSipod is small but not for me...08:14
MetaMorfoziSi'm backuped it 2seconds ago08:14
MetaMorfoziSmoment i try08:14
tininipod is expensive, that's all08:14
UFO_martinh: try suse08:14
_martinhall my disks disappear in a second!08:14
_martinhyeah, but suse is too heavy, I think08:14
_martinhwe want to recycle old computers using pxes08:15
MetaMorfoziSyes i have the same08:15
tinin_martinh: go directly to the /media/ folder08:15
UFO_martinh: it runs faster than ubuntu08:15
MetaMorfoziSi'm haven't any permission08:15
MetaMorfoziSmoment08:15
_martinhtinin, i can go using terminal but not using konqueror08:15
tininMetaMorfoziS: where are you from???08:15
MetaMorfoziShungary08:15
MetaMorfoziSmy english is shit:) sry:D08:16
_martinhhere from spain and my english is worse...08:16
MetaMorfoziSFATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition begins after end-of-disk08:16
MetaMorfoziS                          Press any key to exit cfdisk08:16
MetaMorfoziSoh sry08:16
MetaMorfoziSso i'm working:)08:16
tinini'm from spain!!!08:16
MetaMorfoziSi know08:16
MetaMorfoziSi saw ^^ :)08:16
tininfucking inglish08:16
_martinhque pasa tininnnnn08:17
_martinhcomo va eso08:17
tininstop08:17
_martinh:P08:17
tininq se mosquean08:17
_martinhok08:17
tininesperanto only!08:17
maltehm, midi isn't working on my computer, i have an emu10k1 soundblaster card. how can i try to fix this?08:17
_martinhjuas08:17
Enchanter_timwtf?08:17
Enchanter_timkde doesnt even find my usb devices in dapper08:18
MetaMorfoziShey nyugi legyen baszki08:18
Riddell!es08:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:18
tininmartin go to konq and write /media on the direction08:18
tininnothing there??08:18
_martinhi did08:18
_martinhyes08:18
tininubotu08:18
_martinhjust cdrom...08:18
tininhere are more people08:18
tinintry mount -a08:19
tinino sudo mount -a08:19
_martinhhmm08:19
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tininif it does't work you'l have to edit fstab08:19
_martinhatencin: no hay ninguna nueva lnea final al final de /etc/fstab08:19
_martinh:(08:20
_martinhbut i wrote a correct fstab08:20
tininabre stc fstab08:20
_martinhmielda08:20
MetaMorfoziShey thin08:20
MetaMorfoziSi found08:20
MetaMorfoziSa non gui way solution08:20
MetaMorfoziSbut 2lines:)08:20
MetaMorfoziShttp://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:03S6yCDR2v4J:www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-148098.html+%22how+to+format%22+%2Bpendrive+%2Blinux&hl=hu&gl=hu&ct=clnk&cd=508:20
tininit is't correct08:20
MetaMorfoziSuh shit this url:D08:20
_martinhhmmm08:21
_martinh"el gestor de medios no est ejecutndose"08:21
MetaMorfoziSthe 2nd post08:21
MetaMorfoziSkussolsz vagy szjbarujalak?:DDD08:21
_martinhthats using sudo -s with konqueror08:21
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MetaMorfoziStinin: http://www.google.co.hu/search?hl=hu&q=%22how+to+format%22+%2Bpendrive+%2Blinux&btnG=Keres%A9s&meta=08:22
_martinhwhere is the "gestor de medios"???08:22
MetaMorfoziSyou must check it:)08:22
tininMetaMorfoziS:08:22
tinini think i'll try with kde apps08:22
tininthere must be something there08:23
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tinini found kfloppy there08:23
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tinini'm sure there are more people who uses usb devices in an easier way08:23
MetaMorfoziSgoogle is your friend, i'm not need to format08:24
MetaMorfoziSand you?08:24
MetaMorfoziSwhy need?08:24
MetaMorfoziSyou select and delete all of the files...08:24
MetaMorfoziSwhat is the problem?08:25
_martinhtinin, do you mind if we speak in the ubuntu-es channel?08:25
_martinh:P08:25
tinintb estoy viendo ah martin08:25
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tininMetaMorfoziS, i'll continue my searching, i bought my "ipod" yesterday, i wanted an easy way to manage it, i'll try to configure amarok to use it from there08:28
knoppix__hy , i installed kubuntu on this pc ,and the mouse didn`t work ,now i corrected the problem and now it still wont run .,what should i do?08:28
MetaMorfoziS!ipod08:28
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto08:28
MetaMorfoziS:)08:28
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=== sparaflescio re re re re re
_harryHi! I'm having this problem, could someone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=726814#post72681408:30
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Howitzeri need to be able to access a file from root08:33
Howitzerbut it won't let me08:34
Howitzerhow do i chmod it?08:34
HowitzerXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:34
HowitzerXlib: No protocol specified08:34
Howitzerx11drv: Can't open display: :0.008:34
Howitzeradrian@lckwd:/media/hda8/Games/Guild Wars$ sudo cedega Gw.exe08:34
Howitzerwine: '/home/adrian/.transgaming/wineserver-lckwd' is not owned by you08:34
Howitzereek08:34
Howitzersorry08:34
tinin_harry: format it first under windows (easy way) to fat, then try again08:34
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_harryThe drive is fat08:35
_harryMy friend can read and write to it from kubuntu08:35
_harryno drive, no matter what fileformat it is can be mounted08:35
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gurumeditationerI'm getting this error: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries)"08:36
Tm_Tgurumeditationer: compiling what?08:36
gurumeditationerand I've got all the qt dev packages installed, any advice?08:36
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gurumeditationeran old program I wrote on mandrake08:37
Tm_Tok08:37
gurumeditationer#include <private/qucomextra_p.h>08:37
gurumeditationer#if ! (QT_VERSION >= 303)08:37
gurumeditationer#error 108:37
gurumeditationer#endif08:37
gurumeditationerint main() {08:37
gurumeditationer    (void)QStyleFactory::create(QString::null);08:37
gurumeditationer    QCursor c(Qt::WhatsThisCursor);08:37
gurumeditationer    return 0;08:37
gurumeditationer}08:37
tinin_harry: so the problem must be laptop related08:37
_harryyeah, probably.08:38
Tm_Tgurumeditationer: yay, please don't flood in channel, pastebin for more than 2 lines ;)08:38
_harryAre there anything I can check to find out something more?08:38
tininsearch problems about your friends pc under linux08:38
gurumeditationerthis seems to be what it's spewing at, what package sets the variables like QT_VERSION? is there a way to find that out?08:38
Tm_Tgurumeditationer: developer.kde.org for start?08:39
jerwarewhat chxxx command changes my login name?08:39
gurumeditationerisn't this sort of thing more specific to the distro on how it's packaged?08:40
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MetaMorfoziSius xmms supports winamp skins?08:42
MetaMorfoziSu-08:42
MetaMorfoziSis xmms supports winamp skins?08:42
m0ns00nYes08:42
brydennanyone here use KBFX?08:42
m0ns00nBut not the newest ones08:43
MetaMorfoziSso the simple only...08:44
MetaMorfoziS< 2.908:44
MetaMorfoziS:()08:44
brydennanyone know how to use KBFX very well?08:46
brydenni need some help with that program08:46
_martinhmy media disappeared... anyone knows what can happened?08:47
_martinhcould happen... :P08:47
brydennlike your CD rom or what not disappeared?08:47
_martinhI know it is a very open question but...08:47
_martinheverything08:47
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_martinhi mean when konqueror tries to go to media: whatever08:47
brydennhmm08:47
_martinhit isn't there08:47
brydennbut your floppy is right?08:48
_martinhhowever, if I use file:/// it is there.08:48
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kronozhi, i need advice on POSSIBLY installing either kubuntu, kanotix or suse on a computer for a child08:48
_martinhI cannot umount them also I cannot get them by using the root user08:48
_martinhgood question kronoz08:49
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_martinhi am asking myself the same08:49
brydenn_martinh: all i know is that (k)ubuntu auto mounts devices like CD-ROMs etc08:49
_martinhnow, fighting with kubuntu08:49
brydennthen when you take the CD out it unmouts itself08:49
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_martinhhmm, i think it isn't the problem08:50
_martinhi mean, it was ok till i updated the distro08:50
_martinhthe fstab is the same08:50
kronozthings, i need to know are will kubuntu recognise and integrated intel ethernet card (Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller) and Nvidia-geforce-5200MX08:50
_martinhi think kubuntu will08:50
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_martinhbut after installation, weird things happen08:50
Nomad411is it normal that apt-get update gives me this:  GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security08:51
_martinhyes, i read it is a repository problem08:51
Nomad411ok , thanks :)08:51
Nomad411kronoz: what kind of advice are you looking for?08:52
Nomad411kronoz: Are you familiar with edubuntu?08:52
Nomad411!edubuntu08:52
uboturumour has it, edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu08:52
kronoznomad: i think i'm gonna go with suse08:52
kronozbut thank you anyway08:52
_martinhyes, i have edubuntu08:52
_martinhis ok08:52
Nomad411Go with what you feel familiar and comfortable with :)08:52
_martinhnow with kubuntu, things are weird08:52
Nomad411I hav elot sfo weird occurences lately too.08:53
Nomad411lot sof08:53
Nomad411arghhhhhhhh08:53
Nomad411lots of08:53
_martinhhehe08:53
Nomad411kronoz: Why Suse?  And do you mean buying Suse or OpenSuse?08:53
Nomad411if i may ask..08:53
_martinhhey, stop that parkingson! :P08:53
_martinhparkinson08:53
_martinh:D08:53
Nomad411shoot, there's one more worry I need.. LOL08:54
kronoznomad: opensuse08:54
_martinhhmm08:54
kronozbecause I have it burnt to disk, sax will help, and it is n00b friendly08:54
_martinhi didn't know that there was a brunch in suse08:54
_martinhbranch...08:56
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_martinhhmm, lets try opensuse...08:57
Nomad411good community for OpenSuse?08:57
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willvarfarhello folks; I've just used Adept to install g++-4.0, but at my terminal window gcc and g++ are commands not found.  What might be wrong?08:58
Nomad411!gcc08:59
ubotumethinks gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:59
Nomad411is that how you installed it?09:00
Nomad411willvarfar: ?09:00
gurumeditationer!amd6409:00
ubotugurumeditationer: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:00
gurumeditationer!x86-6409:00
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gurumeditationer09:00
gurumeditationer!x86-609:01
ubotugurumeditationer: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:01
gurumeditationer!chroot09:01
ubotuI heard chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457509:01
Nomad411!6409:01
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41109:01
Nomad411lol09:01
gurumeditationerheh that's nuts09:01
Nomad411no, some bots have cats, better bots have grep and egrep.. ;)09:02
vgewhat does this mean? configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!09:02
Nomad411!libqt09:02
ubotuNomad411: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:02
jpatrickvge: install libqt3-mt-dev09:02
Nomad411there09:02
gurumeditationervge, what are you compiling?09:02
vgekuake 0.409:03
gurumeditationertry ./configure -with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt309:03
UFOyes im going to change to debian...09:03
gurumeditationerpardon me, two -'s infront of that with09:03
gurumeditationertook me ages to figure that one out09:03
vgei have libqt3-mt-dev installed09:03
willvarfarNomad411: I used Adept to install gcc and g++; Adept claims they are installed etc09:04
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vgein the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.09:05
vgegurumeditationer: with your parameter09:05
gurumeditationerdo you have the main g++ and gcc installed09:06
vgein a reverced order09:06
vgeshoud be09:06
gurumeditationerlike, if you've justinstalled g++-4.0 it won't be there09:06
gurumeditationeryou need to use the plain g++ package as well, don't ask me why but that happened to me last night09:06
_davehow do you load KDE automaticly after installing?09:07
gurumeditationerwillvarfar: you use g++-4.0 on the command line to use g++ v409:07
_davenew to linux/Ubuntu09:08
vgehmm, whats the packetname for gc++?09:08
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gurumeditationerhow do you mean automatically? on boot?09:08
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_daveyes on boot09:08
gurumeditationeron a command line type sudo kcontrol09:09
gurumeditationerthen goto system admin-> login manager09:09
_davecool thx09:09
gurumeditationerclick on the convienance tab09:09
gurumeditationerand enable auto-login09:09
_davethx again!09:09
gurumeditationerno bother09:10
willvarfargurumeditationer:  thanks!09:10
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gurumeditationerno problem dude09:11
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vgehmm, where are the KDE headers installed :/09:11
vge./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 <-- this fails09:12
gurumeditationertry09:12
jpatrickvge: kdelibs4-dev09:12
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gurumeditationer./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde09:13
kkathmanvge do an apt-cache on kdelibs09:13
vgelets try09:13
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vgekdelibs4-dev has "unresolvable debendencies"09:15
gurumeditationerthat doesn't sound healthy09:15
vgeyup09:15
gurumeditationerare you developing for kde4?09:16
visik7when I connect via vnc to kde session the cpu goes to 100%09:16
vge3.509:16
visik7wtf ?09:16
vgehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55162909:18
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gurumeditationerthat's wierd how it's called kdelibs409:19
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c13witch way should i install baghira ? sources or debain way09:19
gurumeditationerthe debian way if you can get away with it I guess09:20
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_kkrizkahas someoen managed to install the koffice 1.5 packages?09:22
_kkrizkakoffice-libs: Depends: libruby1.8 (>= 1.8.2-9ubuntu1) but it is not installable09:23
_kkrizkaI only see libruby1.909:23
jpatrick_kkrizka: probably won't be fixed coz it's beta09:24
_kkrizkaoh well09:25
vge./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde <-- this didnt work neather09:25
vgearrgh09:25
pmdo you know some address of a good proxy server?09:26
jpatrickvge:  ./configure --prefix=/usr09:28
HowitzerHow can i see what nvidia drivers i have installed?09:29
vgei guess the main reason is that i cannot install "kdelibs4-dev"09:29
Howitzeri have the feeling the installation didn't work too well :x09:29
Howitzersince my pc lags when i make a dragbox on the desktop09:29
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pmHowitzer, kinfocenter> OpenGL09:30
jpatrickvge: yep09:30
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Howitzerwhat does there need to be in my xorg.conf?09:32
JJasonJ20Is there a channel for regular Ubuntu, not Kubuntu? Actually, Ubuntu-64 Breezy with Gnome is what I have.09:32
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vgehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/551656 <-- should i try this?09:33
pmHowitzer, if you want to use nvidia proprietary drivers you should change "nv" into "nvidia"09:33
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pmas long as you've got it installed already09:33
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alexpihi everybody09:34
pmhi09:34
JJasonJ20I'm desperate! I just freed up 14 Gb of space and five minutes later the computer can't write to disk because it says it's full. NOT!!!09:34
JJasonJ20Now I can't even log in09:35
JJasonJ20Something is self-replicating and eating up my disk space09:35
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zblachhi09:37
zblachquick question09:37
alexpihi09:37
zblachwhen linux is booting, and you have the blue kubuntu logo and the progress bar beneath, is that modifyable?09:37
zblach(forgive my terminology, i'm noobly)09:38
pmyes, it is09:38
zblachmm, running kde 3.509:38
zblachpm, :) yes, it's modifyable, but how?09:38
pmyou can install upower for instance09:38
zblach?09:38
pmin what way would you like to modify it/09:39
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zblachwell, i got this fairly neat photo i'd like displayed with the loading text overlayed.09:40
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pmi don't know but i think ther shoul be some themes for usplash09:41
gurumeditationerupower? I thiought it was usplash?09:41
zblachusplash, it sounds more familiary09:41
zblach**-y09:41
pmthere's something called upower sas well ;)09:41
pmas well09:41
zblachusing usplash seems to terminate my computer, however09:42
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zblachand my keyboard is sufficiently borked as to have disallowed Ctrl+Alt+F# to go to a terminal09:43
pmdo you know some address of some proxy server?09:43
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zblachnope, sorry09:43
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pmmy www doesn/t work and i need some proxy server09:44
zblachusplash has borked again. :(09:45
gurumeditationerwhere does usplash get it's image from?09:46
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ghbI'm having some really annoying problems using Kubuntu. When I open the control manager and try to press the "Administrator Mode", I sometimes get a prompt to enter the password, and sometimes I don't. And sometimes it works after entering the password, and sometimes it doesn't. What's wrong? Can't it just work every time?09:48
gurumeditationerI don't know why it doesn't work properly, but the easiest thing to do is to just run kcontrol from a konsole with sudo09:48
ghbgurumeditationer: Oki, I'll try that. Thanks.09:49
gurumeditationernp09:49
ghbWell, that fixed some of the problems. Now on to the next one. I can't add a printer using kcontrol.09:50
ghbI go to where you edit your printers, but I can't do anything. I just get a little window saying "Initializing printers"... And I can't do anything.09:51
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ghbOh it's suppose to be "Initializing manager..."09:51
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RanXsera09:52
Vgegotta love deleting important files \()/09:52
RanXhello nessun italiano09:52
ghbAh great. Now the kcontrol hanged itself..09:52
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finalhazardHello again.09:53
ghbEven better -- now I can't open the kcontrol at all!09:54
finalhazardI'm having a problem configuring a windeco so I can make & install it.09:55
ghbUmmm.. How do I add a printer, text-mode style...?09:56
deuce868anyone know if there is a way to either mouse/keyboard shortcut kompose?09:56
ghbI keep getting these errors all the time: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-ghb" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.09:57
ghbLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"09:57
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finalhazardEverytime I try to configure it, it says it can't find ctrl.0 in the config.log file...09:57
finalhazardAnyone know what that means?09:57
SirKillalotif I put a CD in my tray I no longer get a popup in KDE and the CD is not shown in media://, what could be the problem?09:58
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SirKillalotThe cd is mounted.09:58
Vgenote to self: "Dont remove Kubuntu-Desktop when KDE is running, bad things happen"09:59
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kkathmanactually removing kubuntu-desktop wont do a thing really, cuz its a metapackage :)10:00
kkathmanunless you used aptitude to install and remove10:00
Vgeohh yes10:00
Vgelibgamin0 that one i tought10:01
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kkathmanit usually just looks at you and says "ok"...and then comes right back :)10:01
johnfluxHey all!10:01
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JJasonJ20Is there a virus that would self-replicate to fill up a hard drive?10:02
MetaMorfoziShey:)10:02
SirKillalothow's the program called which recognizes new CDs or USBsticks?10:02
finalhazardI see you're all busy, so I won't bother you anymore. I'll figure it out on my own.10:02
m_tadeuhi...i don't seem to be able to mount an ext3 partition...whats wrong?10:02
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Vgehmm, now that im installing kde again, how do i upgrade to 3.5.1?10:05
kkathmanreplace your 3.5 repo with 35110:05
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Vgekk10:05
kkathmansee kubuntu.org for details10:06
Vgejup10:06
pmwill kubuntu always have the newest version of kde/10:07
pm?10:07
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MetaMorfoziSkubuntu always have the newest stable version10:10
MetaMorfoziSat he distribution time10:10
MetaMorfoziSfor example the newest kubuntu is ~4months old10:10
MetaMorfoziSbut the newest kde is 3.5.110:10
MetaMorfoziSso it will coming with the next kubuntu...10:10
MetaMorfoziSbut you can upgrade, check out kubunut.org for more inf.10:11
pmi mean there are always packages for kubuntu on kde servers with every new kde release10:11
pmwilli it always be so?10:11
MetaMorfoziSi don't know10:11
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os2macis there a thumb drive distro of Kubuntu?10:14
tchizelittle question, how do i set up the dpi for my kde?10:14
MetaMorfoziSwhy you want to set the dpi?10:15
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tchizebecause it has a very bad value10:15
MetaMorfoziSi think you have bad resolution10:15
MetaMorfoziSno?10:15
tchizea 10pt police is visually huge :)10:15
MetaMorfoziSwhat is your really and what is your setted resolution?10:16
tchize1280x1024 i think10:16
MetaMorfoziSgo to kcontrol10:16
MetaMorfoziSperipherials10:16
MetaMorfoziSand screen or monitor10:16
MetaMorfoziSyou can check your refresh rate and resolution10:16
tchizeit says 1280x1024 :)10:16
MetaMorfoziSand your monitor?10:17
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tchizewhat?10:17
MetaMorfoziSwhat is your monitor's size?10:17
tchizeho10:17
MetaMorfoziSwhat is your monitor's resolution?10:17
tchize17''10:17
MetaMorfoziSno10:17
MetaMorfoziSin pixels10:17
tchizedunno10:17
tchize:)10:17
MetaMorfoziSlol:)10:17
MetaMorfoziSmoment10:17
MetaMorfoziSis ther an app to ask it to your monittor10:17
MetaMorfoziSt-10:17
MetaMorfoziSyou haven't got the monitor's manual?10:18
MetaMorfoziSor the bakcside of the monitor10:18
MetaMorfoziSnowhere a stick with these details?10:18
tchizewell does it matter? i mean other oses display a 10pt font at a reasonable size :)10:19
Vge little question, how do i set up the dpi for my kde? <-- there is a program to do that, just dont remember the name atm10:19
MetaMorfoziSor go to google... and find out your monitor's type10:19
MetaMorfoziS^^ ok find it...10:19
MetaMorfoziSi don't know10:19
MetaMorfoziSi think your resolution not good...10:19
MetaMorfoziSbut i dunno10:19
tchizewell you mean i should switch to smoething like 800x600? noway :)10:20
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MetaMorfoziSno @ 17" monitors are below 1280*1024 and 1024*76810:21
tchizelol going to philips website crashes konqueror ^^10:21
MetaMorfoziSuse firefox.)10:21
MetaMorfoziS!firefox1.510:22
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:22
tchizeno problem, ff already installed10:22
angasule1280x1024 = baaaad10:23
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MetaMorfoziSwhy?10:23
angasule1280x960 = gooood10:23
=== MetaMorfoziS @1280*1024
MetaMorfoziS:)10:23
angasulewhat's the @?10:23
MetaMorfoziS@ = at10:23
MetaMorfoziSmy maniac10:24
MetaMorfoziS:)10:24
angasuleah, I think you were actually adding something :P10:24
MetaMorfoziSi think i'm understand this room's lines 80%:DD10:24
MetaMorfoziSi'm hungarian10:24
angasule1280 / 320 = 410:24
angasule960 / 320 = 310:24
MetaMorfoziS4 / 2 = 210:24
angasule1024 / 320 = 3.20000000000andsomething10:24
MetaMorfoziSand?10:25
MetaMorfoziS:))10:25
angasule1280x960 is 4:310:25
MetaMorfoziSand?:D10:25
tchizemetaMorfozis: The docs about monitors states 'up to 1280x1024@60Hz10:25
MetaMorfoziSi'm not have any problems with 1280*102410:25
MetaMorfoziStchzie ok10:25
angasule640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1600x1200, all 4:310:25
MetaMorfoziSthe problem isn't about the resolution:)10:25
angasuleit's a magic number! the wizard Shazam told me10:26
tchizeas i said, it's the dpi :)10:26
MetaMorfoziSlol andred :)10:26
MetaMorfoziSyes tchize10:26
MetaMorfoziSi dunno:)10:26
MetaMorfoziS!resolution10:26
ubotuI heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:26
MetaMorfoziS!dpi10:26
ubotuMetaMorfoziS: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:26
MetaMorfoziS^^ and google10:26
angasule4:3 is a good idea if you use games and other junk who may care about making a square with all sides equal10:26
MetaMorfoziS4:3.333333333333333 isn't have any problem with games and shapes:D10:27
angasuleI remember the first time I rendered a square on a 1028x1024 screen, took me like 10 minutes to realize what the problem was :P10:27
angasuleMetaMorfoziS: not if they are done properly, but come on, software, done properly? not even NASA!10:27
MetaMorfoziSi'm not understand you but i think it's not a problem:)10:28
MetaMorfoziSyou can't change my tft's resolution:D10:28
MetaMorfoziSso that's all....10:28
MetaMorfoziSfolks:)10:28
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angasuleMetaMorfoziS: ah, no, if you're in an LCD then just use the natural resolution10:29
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MeTa[BaTh] yes, i have phisically 1280*1024 pixel10:29
MeTa[BaTh] so this is the only one looks good10:29
angasule!fonts10:30
ubotuit has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto10:30
MeTa[BaTh] the bigger occurs error10:30
MeTa[BaTh] the lower is nasty:)10:30
MeTa[BaTh] but i'm not have problem with it... it's nice, for me good.10:30
angasuleyeah, it's a nice resolution, it's 17"?10:30
MeTa[BaTh] yes10:30
angasulehmm, nice :) I have a 17" too, but CRT10:31
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MeTa[BaTh] it's a solarium?10:31
angasulea what?10:31
MeTa[BaTh] do you know what is solarium?10:32
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angasulelike a sunny backyard?10:32
MeTa[BaTh] uh so thisis a machine that makes people-s brown..10:32
MeTa[BaTh] with brutal gamma rays10:33
angasuleoh, I have a very fashionable monitor tan :D10:33
angasuleI'm too pale to be a vampire10:33
MeTa[BaTh] and makes skin crab10:33
MeTa[BaTh] uh i'm translated what is solarium yeah:D10:33
MeTa[BaTh] it's like an english homework:D10:33
angasuleactually, I keep the screen pretty low, and frankly I don't worry much about a few thousand volts near my brain, I live in an industrial city10:34
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MeTa[BaTh] :))10:34
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MeTa[BaTh] nothere a now playing script for konversation?10:35
MeTa[BaTh] i want to annoy thousands of people:)10:35
tchizemm seems my monitor is returning strange values :) a 17'' is supposed to be ~337x270mm while my monitor returns 313x230 :s10:36
MeTa[BaTh] tchzie, the google is your friend?:)10:36
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MeTa[BaTh] i'm can't help you:(10:36
tchizesomehow :/10:36
MeTa[BaTh] i have problems only the resolution at the begining linux10:37
MeTa[BaTh] but i'm don't knows: space is the select key, when x asks me about my res.10:37
MeTa[BaTh] i'm only select the list the 1280*102 with the arrow keys, but not select it with * :) only hit enter...10:38
whitelineBoot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?10:38
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MeTa[BaTh] anybody heard about kos?:D10:38
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Meta[foo] ok i'm go to have a shower:) and re...10:40
angasuletchize: do you have a ruler?10:40
tchizenope, but i got somehow official 17" sizes10:40
tchizei tried to add a DisplaySize to xorg.conf to those values10:41
angasuleheck, a difference of 40mm is easy to tell without a ruler10:41
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tchizeangasule: you have no idea how bad i am with notions of distance :)10:44
whitelineBoot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?10:44
angasuletchize: 40mm ~= three fingers10:45
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tchizehave you seen my fingers?10:45
angasuleyes10:45
=== marseillai vous souhaite une bonne nuit!
tchizemaybe i could use a rambank to measure10:45
angasulebonne nuit, marseillai10:45
angasulehmm10:46
marseillaimerci10:46
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jarlathDoes anyone know offhand if k3b can copy a DVD movie to a blank DVD as opposed to ripping it to an avi and burning that to CD?10:46
tchizeok width of monitor is 2 rambank and 1 finger10:46
tchize:)10:46
angasuledo you have sheets of paper? A4, letter?10:46
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angasulejarlath: it can copy a DVD, yes10:47
tchizeyes , 1 A4 length + 1 finger10:47
angasulejarlath: look in the 'tool' menu, second option10:47
tchizethis mean a A4 is worth 2 rambanks10:47
jarlaththanks angasule.10:47
angasuleA4 paper size, an international standard paper size (210297 mm)10:47
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tchize:)10:48
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angasuleif you have two sheets of A4, you can easily measure 210, 297 and 87mm, and if you can fold paper, the sky is the limit :P10:49
tchize:)10:49
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divansantanaDoes any1 know what does free as in beer means???10:50
angasulethe BBC wants to tax pcs because one may watch tv on them? it's easier to tax eyes10:50
tchizethis mean you can get drank of gpl10:51
angasuleof course, blind people sometimes have eyes, but can't use them, and there's the issue whether one-eyed people should pay the full tax or not10:51
angasuledivansantana: free as in beer = no money required10:51
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jarlathdivansantana: as opposed to freedom (free speech)10:52
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divansantanabut why beer??10:52
angasuledivansantana: because beer is good?10:52
angasuleat least for some people, I don't like it, it's cold pee10:53
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divansantanahaha agree10:53
tchizeangasule: come to belgium, you will discover what real beer is10:53
angasuletchize: *warm* pee?10:53
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whitelineBoot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?10:53
angasuleI don't alcoholic beverages10:53
tchizebeers have lots of different tastes10:53
angasulemy only drug is caffeine10:53
jarlathtchize: I was in belgium at christmas. Cherry beers is the best!10:54
tchize:) kriek10:54
jarlaththats the one :)10:54
jarlathIts a good job you cant get it here :)10:54
aboaprihey has anyone got tuxsaver to install in kubuntu?10:54
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angasuletuxsaver? is that a penguin carrying a minigun or what?10:56
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tchizeangasule: no but i like your way of thinking10:56
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jarlathangasule: It says it cannot burn encrypted dvds, but I do have libdvdcss2 installed. Is it possible to tell k3b to use that?10:56
Jackel003hey can anyone help me out?10:56
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angasulejarlath: I don't even have a DVD drive, so I have no idea10:57
jarlathangasule: hehe, okay.10:57
angasuleJackel003: not unless you tell us your problem10:57
Jackel003lol10:57
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tchizei think it's a legal problem to burn encrypted dvd :)10:58
Jackel003I can;t boot into my desktop, I just get a black console screen that tells me to login10:58
angasuletchize: only in the free world :P10:58
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MetaMorfoziSyour x or your kdm has crashed...10:58
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angasuleJackel003: can you log into the console screen?10:58
Jackel003yes10:58
angasuleJackel003: can you 'startx'?10:59
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Jackel003haven't tried that one :P10:59
tchize(my mother was thinking startx is a movie)10:59
Jackel003brb ill try it10:59
metalheddI can't install the kde-devel package, it says it will "BREAK" something, but doesn't say what11:00
MetaMorfoziSsudo apt-get check11:00
MetaMorfoziSsudo apt-get clean11:00
MetaMorfoziSsudo apt-get autoclean11:00
MetaMorfoziS:D11:00
tchizesudo apt-get remove init ?:p11:00
MetaMorfoziS:))11:00
MetaMorfoziSc-c you're bad:)11:01
tchizejust kiding HEY DON4T DO ... (too late :( )11:01
aboaprituxsaver is supposedly similar to johnny castaway, only, with a penguin.11:01
MetaMorfoziS:DD11:01
metalheddI'm not that dumb :)11:01
tchizewhat is jhony castaway?11:01
whitelineBoot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?11:01
aboapriI miss johnny castaway, I installed bochs just so I could try to run johnny castaway in a window, but it wastes resources too much.11:02
MetaMorfoziS!j2re11:02
ubotuMetaMorfoziS: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:02
MetaMorfoziS!java11:02
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs11:02
aboaprijohnny castaway is the greatest creensaver ever, an old windows ss.11:02
tchizewhiteline: could it be the file don't exist?`11:02
tchizek time to sleep bye alll11:03
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Jackel003ok startx did not work11:04
MetaMorfoziSbye11:04
MetaMorfoziSoh he's quited...11:05
MetaMorfoziSi'm isntall java and go away...11:05
MetaMorfoziS:D11:05
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Jackel003so I still can't boot into the desktop11:06
Jackel003I get "Fatal: No Screens Found"11:08
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angasuleyour graphics card wasn't detected, I guess11:09
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Jackel003Well I detected it when i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:10
Jackel003it*11:10
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angasulewhat font package should I install to get IPA support?11:11
angasuleand do I have to restart anything to see new fonts?11:12
angasule!fonts11:13
ubotuI guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto11:13
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scofmbHi11:14
scofmbi just install kubuntu.. been a long gentoo user...11:14
MetaMorfoziShi11:14
angasulescofmb: been there, quite a change11:14
scofmbi can't ping my other machine.. i tryed ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1; ping 192.168.0.211:14
scofmbbut i can't ping my other machine.. the ip is 192.168.0.211:14
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scofmbwhat i'm doing wrong?11:14
marseillaiRiddell: i've got this bug-report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/30579 and someone just told me that hibernation work well with a default installation of ubuntu (gnome) so the bug must be a kubuntu-bug! where ou what bug-report i must do ?11:16
angasulescofmb: did you try using the GUI for configuring the network?11:16
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scofmbyep..11:17
scofmbit didn't work11:17
Jackel003How can i fix the "no screens" error?11:18
brydennhow do i edit the repository list in Kate?11:18
angasulescofmb: you've done the ifconfig thing on gentoo? read man, etc?11:18
scofmbin the gui its enable.. and the ip its 192.168.0.111:18
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Jackel003I tried confifuring the xserver but that doesnt work :(11:18
MetaMorfoziSbye all11:18
MetaMorfoziSgood nigh11:18
MetaMorfoziSt11:18
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bimberibrydenn: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:18
brydennthanks bimberi11:19
bimberibrydenn: yw :)11:19
scofmbangasule: yep.. i used to have my network working on gentoo.. and all i had to do at first (after i got ping, i do the routing stuff)11:19
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scofmbbut i can't make it work on kubuntu... kubuntu is difficult :(       i don't know where the config files or how the init script works11:20
angasulehmm, I don't know, I don't remember any of the network stuff, it's rare for it to give any trouble11:20
scofmbnever been a debian user myself.. so i'm kind of blind here11:20
angasulescofmb: it doesn't have 'magic' config files like suse, so the usual files are fine11:20
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scofmbi do a its cat /etc/network/interfaces.. and everything seems to be right... but i can't ping my other machine.. :(11:22
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angasulescofmb: do you have any other OS installed? can you reboot and check nothing is broken, just in case?11:23
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scofmbyep, i also have windows 2003... and i check it.. and everything is ok11:24
scofmbin the gui conf i have ip:192.168.0.1 netmask:255.255.255.0 broadcast:192.168.0.25511:26
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scofmband its exacly the same i used to have in my gentoo (i still have my gentoo on another hd.. so i'm watching the config files)11:26
SirKillalotwhere are the KDE icons saved?11:26
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Jackel003Is anyone here experinced with ati cards in linux?11:28
Jackel003I can't get mine working :(11:29
angasule!ati11:29
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358911:29
Jackel003that binarydriver one didn't help11:30
brydennhow do i get root access so i can copy something to the /etc/ directory?11:30
Jackel003I get errors when trying to startx11:30
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brydennthrough Konqueror11:30
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Jackel003even after i have configured xserver11:30
angasulehow do I force konqueror to load the new fonts?11:31
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brydennbimberi do you know how to get root privillages in Konqueror so i can copy something ot the /etc/ directory?11:31
angasulebrydenn: in a konsole you could do 'sudo su' (and use *your* password)11:32
tafsenDo I get mp3 support in Kubuntu in the same way as in Ubuntu?11:32
brydennyah but i really dont want to use the Konsole heh11:32
brydenni'd rather just use Konqueror11:32
angasuleyou could also run 'kdesudo konqueror' to get a konqueror window that's owned by root (any windows 'born' from that one will be owned by root, too)11:32
brydennsweet11:32
brydennthanks11:32
angasulenp, although I'm sure there's a better way11:33
bimberibrydenn: you can run it as root with 'kdesu konqueror' (but it's a great idea), or use the command line itself, getting root privs like angasule said (or with 'sudo -i').11:33
angasulebrb11:33
bimberi*it's not a great idea11:33
bimberilol - that was a bad one11:33
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angasuledammit, how do I get konqueror to load fonts?11:35
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sebastianhey11:49
sebastiantell me11:49
sebastianis there something like a karaoke plugin for any of the linux audio players?11:49
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jarlathHas anyone experienced problems with amaroK audio "skipping" when you do something like launch an app or move a windows?11:52
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jarlathIve tried both the gstreamer and xine engines. Same problem.11:53
jarlathBut kaffeine doesnt suffer from this.11:53
Vgehmm, if HP has made a hoary version of ubuntu where allmost all of the gadgets work on my laptop, should i use it and upgrade it to breezy and KDE, or use Kubuntu breezy existing packet?11:53
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Vgeany ideas?11:55
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