[12:01] <hope> Jar: Thank you
[12:02] <jarlath> hope: no problem.
[12:03] <UFO> can i upgrade to dapper with apt-get??
[12:03] <httpdss> DjDarkPingvin: your kget package is inside a server which is currently down ..
[12:03] <Florian-T> UFO: yes
[12:03] <UFO> Easy way
[12:03] <Borut> Where I will find newest packages and K3b? Walks it about for me repsitory Kubuntu?
[12:04] <DjDarkPingvin> uff this is my luck....
[12:04] <Florian-T> UFO: open adept package manager, open menu an manage repositories
[12:04] <UFO> Florian-T: can i upgrade to 32bit from 64bit
[12:05] <Florian-T> UFO: uhh, dunno
[12:05] <httpdss> DjDarkPingvin: oh and btw .. get jriddell's signature :P
[12:05] <sorush20> I can't access my floppy from kubuntu why ? mounted and eveything just access via the terminal?
[12:05] <DjDarkPingvin> i already got that
[12:05] <UFO> have to wait 3 for the dvd
[12:06] <keith> Hi, I'm new to Linux (just installed) and am wondering how to change my screen resolution to 1600x1200 (I can only select up to 1280x800). Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
[12:07] <UFO> suse got some configuration where in 64bit install could run direct skype 32bit... and in every distros they are saying it should use chroot to 32bi
[12:08] <crimsun> that's called multiarch
[12:08] <UFO> SuSe is quite good distro but i don like the rpm... and now ubuntu is doing same to debian
[12:09] <jarlath> UFO, I agree. There doesnt seem to be a real difference between the rpm and deb systems.
[12:10] <iustin> does any of you tried to install easy ubuntu... i`m not really new to ubuntu but it seems i have some problems
[12:12] <iustin> it says: kdeinit could not launch gksu
[12:12] <iustin> and i also tryed from command line ... other errors :(
[12:13] <dcwckd> is kubuntu.org down for anyone else?
[12:14] <keith> It is for me
[12:14] <dcwckd> I just used a mirror to update to kde 3.5.1
[12:14] <dcwckd> and it upgraded to kde 3.5.0
[12:14] <dcwckd> sooo weird
[12:14] <BigBadBen> dcwckd: yes.
[12:14] <dcwckd> ?
[12:15] <dcwckd> BigBadBen: thanks
[12:16] <dcwckd> ben?
[12:16] <dcwckd> what was fixed from kde 3.5.0 to 5.1
[12:23] <Fox_Off> ciao a tutti
[12:24] <Fox_Off> c' qualcuno
[12:24] <Fox_Off> ?
[12:25] <trappist> Fox_Off: try #kubuntu-it
[12:25] <Fox_Off> thank you trappist
[12:25] <Fox_Off> :)
[12:26] <BigBadBen> :)
[12:27] <Fox_Off> this channel si very very BIG
[12:27] <Fox_Off> good!!
[12:28] <Tm_T> tutti...
[12:28] <Fox_Off> parli italiano Tm_T
[12:28] <keith> Can someone tell me how to change my resolution to 1600x1200?
[12:28] <Tm_T> Fox_Off: no, please use english if you're not italian channel
[12:30] <Fox_Off> excuse me, I believed that you spoke Italian
[12:34] <Fox_Off> good night all (in italian :"buona notte a tutti")
[12:34] <Fox_Off> :)
[12:41] <slew> the people.ubuntu.com is down, for the jriddell key. is there another source for it?
[12:42] <crimsun> any key server will suffice
[12:42] <Riddell> jriddell.org
[12:43] <slew> like this: wget http://jriddell.org/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[12:43] <slew> ?
[12:44] <Riddell> http://jriddell.org/PUBLIC-KEY
[12:48] <crypt> ++
[12:49] <slew> gpg: can't open `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg': No such file or directory
[12:49] <slew> should that happen?
[12:51] <Hobbsee> you shouldnt need to open it - you need to add it
[12:51] <slew> i did this: sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[12:52] <kkathman> slew did you put that in your sources.list?
[12:52] <kkathman> sometimes people do that ...it doesnt go there
[12:53] <slew> no i havent messed with sources.list
[12:53] <slew> i did this before but im having to start over and i keep getting 404 at the people.ubunutu.com site
[12:53] <GeniusDex> you entered the wrong filename
[12:53] <Riddell> slew: the file you downloaded is called PUBLIC-KEY
[12:54] <GeniusDex> the sites being down is annoying yes :/
[12:54] <slew> thanks i got it with sudo apt-key add PUBLIC-KEY
[12:54] <kkathman> hmm yah  weird.. no kubuntu.org :(
[12:55] <stefano> hey is someone here who speaks japanese?
[12:55] <kkathman> oh well
[12:55] <burnninator> question, trying to install hamachi and am getting "sudo: make: command not found" after typing sudo make install
[12:55] <burnninator> Am i missing something?
[12:55] <stefano> install the package make-essentials
[12:55] <burnninator> thx
[12:56] <burnninator> couldn't find package make-essentials
[12:56] <stefano> ah
[12:56] <stefano> the package is called build-essentials
[12:56] <stefano> well hey, i need someone who speaks japanese
[12:56] <burnninator> wrong again
[12:57] <stefano> mh
[12:57] <stefano> ill have a look
[12:58] <slew> build-essential
[12:58] <slew> [i KNOW that one. =]  ] 
[12:58] <stefano> yeah sorry, right
[12:58] <burnninator> thats it
[12:58] <burnninator> thanks
[12:58] <doctormo> I'm trying to get an epson printer to work (usb)
[01:01] <Red_Herring> hallo everybody!
[01:02] <Red_Herring> hallo doctor nick!
[01:02] <Red_Herring> sorry, watching simpsons
[01:02] <stefano> lol
[01:07] <burnninator> where is the resolution set in kubuntu?
[01:08] <Red_Herring> uhh
[01:08] <Red_Herring> systemsettings
[01:08] <Red_Herring> --> display
[01:08] <burnninator> yeah, it won't let me choose 1280*1024
[01:08] <slew> how do i mount hdb1 and have it an icon on the desktop?
[01:08] <burnninator> not an option
[01:08] <Red_Herring> ok
[01:09] <Red_Herring> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:09] <Red_Herring> just default through it until you get to the resolution part
[01:09] <Grim76> Anyone know how to get fluxbox to remember your wallpaper from session to session.
[01:16] <doctormo> I have when hardware dosn't work in linux... good job it's not my printer or machine. but I can't help feeling i've left the door open to someone comming in and installing windows on it
[01:20] <jason> hi, i'm trying to install the atheros madwifi modules and i'm having problems.  can someone help me with them? thanks
[01:22] <jason> i've retrieved the sources, removed teh old modules and now i'm trying to complile the new driver
[01:22] <jason> the errors i received are here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/550423
[01:22] <jason> Red_Herring:  u there?
[01:23] <jason> is anyone else able to help me out?
[01:24] <jason> i'm trying to follow the instructions listed on the madwifi site: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[01:25] <jason> everyone gone for dinner?
[01:27] <Red_Herring> whoops
[01:27] <Red_Herring> sorry
[01:27] <Red_Herring> i was for a bit
[01:27] <Red_Herring> !madwifi
[01:27] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[01:27] <jason> Red_Herring:  hey, how's it goin?
[01:28] <Red_Herring> not too bad
[01:28] <Red_Herring> you?
[01:28] <jason> Red_Herring: not bad, plugin away at trying to get my wifi up
[01:28] <Red_Herring> madwifi huh...
[01:28] <Red_Herring> i could have SWORN i saw madwifi stuff in the seveas repo
[01:28] <Red_Herring> lemme check now
[01:28] <jason> Red_Herring: i googled it and found a posting on the ubuntu forums, which redirected me to madwifi side
[01:28] <Red_Herring> what card?
[01:29] <jason> Red_Herring: 1 sec, i'll find out
[01:29] <jason> Red_Herring: where can i find that out...
[01:30] <Red_Herring> try
[01:30] <Red_Herring> "lspci"
[01:30] <Red_Herring> and look at the last entry or so
[01:30] <jason> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)
[01:30] <Red_Herring> ooooo
[01:30] <Red_Herring> an atheros
[01:30] <jason> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)
[01:31] <Red_Herring> thats a good sign
[01:31] <Red_Herring> !atheros
[01:31] <ubotu> Red_Herring: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:31] <jason> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)
[01:31] <jason> Red_Herring: sorry, thought i had your nick copied
[01:31] <Red_Herring> is this a built in wifi card?
[01:31] <jason> Red_Herring: ya
[01:31] <Red_Herring> huh
[01:31] <Red_Herring> so ya dont know what model the card is?
[01:32] <jason> Red_Herring: nope... probably could tell you from windows device manager...
[01:32] <Red_Herring> well
[01:32] <jason> Red_Herring: unless there
[01:32] <jason> s something within kubuntu that could tell me
[01:32] <Red_Herring> did you try to get it working?
[01:32] <Red_Herring> there is
[01:33] <Red_Herring> did you try kubuntu's wifi manager?
[01:33] <jason> well loading up the kwifimanager has a big question mark on the card
[01:33] <Red_Herring> ok
[01:33] <Red_Herring> we gotta do some konsole work
[01:33] <jason> k
[01:33] <Red_Herring> type in iwconfig
[01:33] <Red_Herring> see if any cards show up
[01:33] <NetGeek> hello all
[01:33] <Red_Herring> hi
[01:34] <jason> jason@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig
[01:34] <jason> lo        no wireless extensions.
[01:34] <jason> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:34] <jason> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[01:34] <Red_Herring> what i thought
[01:34] <Red_Herring> ok
[01:34] <jason> :S
[01:34] <Red_Herring> hmmmm
[01:34] <Red_Herring> so when you do "lspci"
[01:34] <jason> i thought it would have to do wtih removing the restricted modules to install the ati drivers?
[01:34] <Red_Herring> it gives you an unknown devicd?
[01:35] <jason> yup
[01:35] <Red_Herring> jason: no, that doesnt have to do with it
[01:35] <jason> ok, good to know...
[01:35] <Red_Herring> 0000:07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)
[01:35] <Red_Herring> thats what i get
[01:35] <jason> well i also have 0000:04:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[01:35] <Red_Herring> ya
[01:35] <jason> but i figured that was my wired ethernet
[01:35] <Red_Herring> thats teh ethernet port
[01:35] <Red_Herring> ya
[01:36] <jason> ya
[01:36] <Red_Herring> i have their wireless card
[01:36] <Red_Herring> i used ndiswrapper to get it working
[01:36] <Red_Herring> which ya may hafta
[01:36] <Red_Herring> but before that
[01:36] <Red_Herring> did you try a google-linux search of your laptop?
[01:36] <jason> no
[01:36] <Red_Herring> http://www.google.com/linux
[01:36] <jason> i'll try now
[01:37] <Red_Herring> some nerd out there with your laptop has most likely written a howto on it
[01:37] <brydenn> hmm
[01:38] <brydenn> ok why am i having trouble installing Crystal Clear Icon theme
[01:38] <Red_Herring> because god hates you
[01:38] <Red_Herring> jk jk
[01:38] <brydenn> keeps saying its not a valid archive
[01:38] <brydenn> lol thanks Red_Herring  ;)
[01:38] <Red_Herring> sorry
[01:38] <Red_Herring> i had ta say that
[01:38] <brydenn> lol its co ;)
[01:38] <Red_Herring> ;-)
[01:38] <brydenn> ok
[01:38] <jason> no luck
[01:38] <brydenn> so...... the error i get says its not a valid icon theme archive
[01:38] <brydenn> or what not
[01:38] <Red_Herring> crystal clear?
[01:38] <brydenn> yes
[01:39] <Red_Herring> doesnt it come by default?
[01:39] <brydenn> no
[01:39] <brydenn> thats crystal SVG
[01:39] <Red_Herring> jason: you need to find out what the model is of the wireless card, then do a google-linux search of it
[01:39] <Red_Herring> from there, someone has written how to get it working
[01:39] <brydenn> Red_Herring:  both are made by the same guy though
[01:39] <Red_Herring> huh
[01:39] <Red_Herring> what kde?
[01:39] <jason> Red_Herring: ok, i'll do some hunting
[01:40] <Red_Herring> 3.5.1?
[01:40] <brydenn> not sure
[01:40] <brydenn> heh
[01:40] <brydenn> i dont know what version of KDE i have, where do i find out?
[01:41] <Red_Herring> well
[01:41] <Red_Herring> if you dont know
[01:41] <Red_Herring> its 3.4.3
[01:41] <Red_Herring> it only changes if you go out of the way to
[01:41] <BigBadBen> help->about kde :)
[01:41] <Red_Herring> !kde3.5
[01:41] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:42] <brydenn> do i really want 3.5 though?
[01:42] <Red_Herring> no
[01:42] <brydenn> isnt it still buggy?
[01:42] <Red_Herring> no
[01:42] <Red_Herring> its nice
[01:42] <Red_Herring> but that could have been the problem
[01:42] <Red_Herring> or maybe it *is* an invalid icon archive
[01:43] <slew> kubuntu.org is still down
[01:43] <slew> so it might not install..
[01:43] <jason> Red_Herring: brb
[01:44] <brydenn> but Red_Herring it's a index.theme and index.desktop file
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> uhee. the last day the convert of imagemagik worked perfectly to convert image size
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and obtain images with an acceptable size for a 56k
[01:44] <richard> hi guys - has anyone in her played with puppy linux?
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> today.. if i launch the application on 15 images contemporary with the * it crashes
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can tell me if this syntax is correct?
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> convert * -size 640x480 picture.jpg
[01:45] <Red_Herring> richard: ya
[01:45] <Red_Herring> its nice
[01:45] <Red_Herring> but dsl is wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better
[01:45] <Red_Herring> !dsl
[01:45] <ubotu> it has been said that pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[01:46] <Red_Herring> !damnsmalllinux
[01:46] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:46] <richard> puppy is soooo fast!
[01:46] <Red_Herring> you havent tried dsl, have you?
[01:46] <Red_Herring> damn small linux is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo freaking fast
[01:46] <Red_Herring> im running it on a 400mhz 64mb ram laptop
[01:47] <richard> yes - but the gui on puupy is excellent - I carry one in my wallet!
[01:47] <Red_Herring> it runs faster than my amd3500+ with decked out kde
[01:47] <Red_Herring> richard: dsl is just as nice
[01:47] <Red_Herring> well
[01:47] <Red_Herring> almost
[01:47] <Red_Herring> but dsl is still faster
[01:48] <richard> sorry red - this is going to be a stupid question - but how are you meaning dsl?
[01:49] <BigBadBen> damn small linux I guess.
[01:50] <jason> Red_Herring: the card is an Atheros AR5005G
[01:50] <richard> ah - ok -can I just walk up to any computer and boot dsl off my own cd?
[01:50] <Red_Herring> ok
[01:50] <Red_Herring> richard: yup
[01:50] <Red_Herring> besides
[01:50] <Red_Herring> dsl has the same base as ubungu
[01:50] <Red_Herring> *ubuntu
[01:51] <Red_Herring> jason: ok, did you search for it with google-linux?
[01:51] <richard> = did not know that - what apps is dsl running in RAM at the moment and how bigs the ISO?
[01:51] <jason> tring now
[01:51] <Red_Herring> the isos are 50mbs
[01:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't there an extension for kde
[01:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to manage resizing for images?
[01:52] <Red_Herring> and its about 12 mb of RAM
[01:52] <Red_Herring> with GUI and all
[01:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like you select a set of files.. and with right click you change the size of all of them?
[01:52] <Grim76> What gui is it using?
[01:52] <Red_Herring> Tallia1Kubuntu: i remember something like that
[01:52] <Red_Herring> fluxbox
[01:52] <Red_Herring> or jwm
[01:52] <Red_Herring> you choose
[01:53] <Grim76> Cool....Do you know by chance how to get flux to remember your wallpaper from session to session
[01:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think convert from imagemagik is broken.... while mogrify can do it
[01:53] <Red_Herring> i gotta walk my dog.... be back in like 5-10 or so
[01:53] <jason> Red_Herring: this guy runing SuSe used "pci=noacpi" in his boot options to make his work.  would that apply to me?
[01:54] <Red_Herring> jason: nah
[01:54] <Red_Herring> the problem is that either a) ubuntu doesnt know which driver to use
[01:54] <Red_Herring> which judging from that lspci thing is probobly true
[01:54] <Red_Herring> or b) there IS no driver for linux
[01:54] <richard> thanks red - last time I looked DSL was aiming for two floppies :-)
[01:54] <Red_Herring> in case b, you need to use ndiswrapper
[01:55] <jason> ok thanks
[01:55] <Red_Herring> !ndiswrapper
[01:55] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:56] <richard> yes- ndis should interface at the right levels for win32
[01:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Red_Herring: can you?
[01:56] <Red_Herring> ndiswrapper is sooooooooooo much better than it was a year ago
[01:56] <jason> ok, i'll ask the guys in the madwifi chan
[01:57] <richard> if all else fails try the novel anthem 10 interface
[01:57] <jason> ok thanks richard
[01:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/Kim-2263.shtml
[01:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> here it is
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think this program is VERY useful :)
[02:06] <Red_Herring> jason: i dont think you need madwifi for your card
[02:07] <jason> Red_Herring: the guys in the madwifi channel think it's some problem with the kubuntu kernel, they're telling me to compile it from scratch
[02:07] <Red_Herring> whats the wireless card?
[02:07] <jason> AR5005G
[02:07] <jason> Atheros
[02:08] <tafsen> When I try to chose ESD from the KDE CP i get an error that says couldn't connect to server. Im using kubuntu
[02:08] <Red_Herring> dont use esd
[02:08] <keqiuguang> haiz
[02:09] <tafsen> why? when I use ALSA the sound skips
[02:09] <keqiuguang> i dunno
[02:09] <keqiuguang> don't ask mi
[02:09] <Red_Herring> i stand corrected, it does use madwifi
[02:09] <Red_Herring> did you install madwifi drivers?
[02:10] <keqiuguang> me 2 have a problem
[02:10] <Red_Herring> tafsen: use oss
[02:10] <Red_Herring> i tried alsa with doom3 and quake4
[02:10] <Red_Herring> they suck
[02:11] <Red_Herring> but with OSS
[02:11] <Red_Herring> they are amazing
[02:13] <agoe_>  I have gnome (installed ubuntu) but then i wanted kde instead and now i have installed kde, but how do i change the desktop enviroment?
[02:13] <tafsen> But I need to be able to have difrent soudn sources at once
[02:13] <Red_Herring> agoe_: did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:13] <ilba7r> any one can help me with a xorg.conf file for configuring dual head using ati open source drivers. I have it nearly working
[02:13] <Red_Herring> heh
[02:14] <Red_Herring> ati
[02:14] <Red_Herring> sorry, i had the same problem
[02:14] <Red_Herring> but then i got nvidia
[02:14] <ilba7r> lol
[02:14] <ilba7r> i have done everything i could still not working mmm
[02:14] <agoe_> Red_Herring: yes, i have installed it
[02:15] <burner> agoe_: choose it at the login screen
[02:15] <Red_Herring> agoe_: it should ask at the login screen
[02:15] <burner> agoe_: click session
[02:16] <slow-motion> n8
[02:17] <agoe_> ok, can i only reboot x or the whole system
[02:17] <Red_Herring> x
[02:17] <Red_Herring> just hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:18] <agoe_> ok, thax
[02:18] <agoe_> thanx
[02:18] <burner> or "logout"
[02:18] <Red_Herring> true true
[02:18] <Red_Herring> still
[02:18] <Red_Herring> killing it is more fun
[02:18] <Red_Herring> :-D
[02:18] <agoe_> can i only erease the gnome package and all gnome files will be gone?
[02:18] <agoe_> i want only kde
[02:18] <Red_Herring> no
[02:19] <Red_Herring> the gnome package is a metapackage
[02:19] <Red_Herring> it is strongly discouraged to remove gnome completely
[02:19] <agoe_> why?
[02:19] <Red_Herring> because then you cant run gnome apps under kde
[02:19] <Red_Herring> and its a nice backup if/when kde dies
[02:19] <agoe_> does gnome come with kubuntu ?
[02:19] <Red_Herring> no
[02:19] <Red_Herring> just ubuntu
[02:20] <Red_Herring> well
[02:20] <Red_Herring> actually
[02:20] <dereks> agoe_: you can install it though
[02:20] <ilba7r> Red_Herring, so does dual head work well with nividia
[02:20] <Red_Herring> i kinda lied, you still can run gnome apps
[02:20] <dereks> agoe_: just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <Red_Herring> as long as you dont remove the core libs
[02:20] <dereks> ilba7r: i am using dual heads now with ubuntu
[02:20] <dereks> blah
[02:20] <dereks> with nvidia
[02:20] <Red_Herring> NVIDIA!
[02:20] <Red_Herring> :-D
[02:20] <ilba7r> dereks unfour i have ati
[02:20] <Red_Herring> i have a 6600gt, and couldnt be happier with it
[02:21] <dereks> ilba7r: unfour?
[02:21] <ilba7r> and can not drag appl from one screen to the other
[02:21] <agoe_> dereks; no, i dont want gnome
[02:21] <agoe_> i want to erease it
[02:21] <dereks> ilba7r: its how you have it setup
[02:21] <dereks> ilba7r: i have mine setup like that and like it
[02:21] <ilba7r> dereks the prop drivers does not support it
[02:21] <Red_Herring> agoe_: how big is your hard drive?
[02:21] <ilba7r> and i have been trying to set it with the open source for ages now
[02:21] <dereks> ilba7r: xinerama is what you need
[02:21] <Red_Herring> i had a 3.5 gb hard drive
[02:22] <Red_Herring> and i didnt bother removing gnome
[02:22] <Red_Herring> there is no point
[02:22] <ilba7r> dereks there is a bug with xinerama and the prop driver
[02:22] <agoe_> i have 4 drives totalt amount of 400gb
[02:22] <Red_Herring> !xinerama
[02:22] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:22] <dereks> ilba7r: if you say so
[02:22] <Red_Herring> agoe_: well, im sure you can afford the extra 50mb gnome has
[02:22] <Red_Herring> ;-)
[02:22] <dereks> i like 2 seperate desktops
[02:22] <ilba7r> dereks would you help and and take a look at my xorg.config maybe i am missing something
[02:22] <dereks> ilba7r: i don't have mine setup to use xinerama
[02:22] <dereks> and if i wanted to use xinerama i would be using twinview
[02:23] <dereks> so i don't know how much help i would be
[02:23] <ilba7r> ok no problem then
[02:23] <dereks> sorry
[02:23] <ilba7r> twinview? you mean extended desktop
[02:23] <dereks> ilba7r: no, nvidia has something galled twinview
[02:23] <ilba7r> or clone
[02:23] <dereks> google it
[02:24] <ilba7r> ok
[02:24] <dereks> it won't work with non-nvidia cards thoguh
[02:24] <ilba7r> i think it is like clone where you have two identical desktops
[02:24] <dereks> ilba7r: no it isn't
[02:24] <ilba7r> ok googling it now
[02:24] <dereks> it is like xinerama
[02:26] <jason> Red_Herring: the madwifi ppl figured out the problem
[02:27] <Red_Herring> good for them
[02:27] <Red_Herring> what was it?
[02:27] <Red_Herring> for future reference
[02:27] <jason> Red_Herring: you have to remove the -Werror from the COPTS+= line in the Makefile.inc
[02:27] <Red_Herring> oh wow
[02:27] <Red_Herring> i would have NEVER guessed that one
[02:27] <jason> stupid me
[02:27] <jason> it was in the instructions
[02:28] <Red_Herring> heh
[02:28] <jason> the instructions on the ubuntu wiki
[02:28] <Red_Herring> it happens
[02:28] <jason> i just wasn't sure it was as up to date as the madwifi instructions, which didn't have that
[02:28] <jason> anywyas
[02:28] <dereks> anyone here use rss2email
[02:28] <jason> so now when i run the kwifimanager
[02:28] <jason> it isn't detecting my network...
[02:28] <jason> how do i use kwifimanager?
[02:29] <Red_Herring> cli all the way!
[02:29] <jason> ...
[02:30] <jason> babysteps...
[02:30] <Red_Herring> try iwconfig
[02:30] <jason> unless this is easy...
[02:30] <Red_Herring> tell me what happens
[02:30] <Red_Herring> type in iwconfig
[02:30] <Red_Herring> cli = command line interface
[02:30] <jason> under ath0 there's a lot of stuff...
[02:30] <Red_Herring> ok good
[02:30] <Red_Herring> type in "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid <name of network>"
[02:31] <jason> it didn't do anything...
[02:31] <Red_Herring> well
[02:31] <Red_Herring> type in iwconfig again
[02:31] <Red_Herring> and under essid:
[02:31] <Red_Herring> it should say what network you typed in
[02:31] <jason> yup it does
[02:31] <NetGeek> just switch from Gnome to KDE, should I upgrade to 3.5 or 3.5.1
[02:31] <Red_Herring> is this encrypted?
[02:32] <Red_Herring> NetGeek: dont matter
[02:32] <Red_Herring> jason: is the network encrypted?
[02:32] <jason> yes it has a key
[02:32] <Red_Herring> ok
[02:32] <Red_Herring> then type in:
[02:32] <Red_Herring> sudo iwconfig ath0 key <key>
[02:33] <jason> ok
[02:33] <Red_Herring> ok
[02:33] <Red_Herring> then type in:
[02:33] <Red_Herring> sudo dhclient ath0
[02:33] <Red_Herring> if everything worked
[02:33] <Red_Herring> it will babbel a bit
[02:34] <Red_Herring> but it *should* work
[02:34] <NetGeek> kubuntu.org is down, does anyone have the lines for source.list for the lastest kde and aramok
[02:34] <Red_Herring> thats odd
[02:34] <Red_Herring> kubuntu.org down?
[02:35] <Hobbsee> all of ubuntu is, i think - those servers
[02:35] <Grim76> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[02:35] <jason> it worked!
[02:35] <Red_Herring> nice :-D
[02:36] <LjL> Grim76: except that, guess what, that repository is, like, down :)
[02:36] <Red_Herring> good point
[02:36] <Grim76> Doh....That is the only one that I know if
[02:36] <Grim76> errr of
[02:37] <jason> Red_Herring:  do i have to go through this process everytime i start up?
[02:37] <LjL> Stay the patient course \ Of little worth is your ire \ The network is down.
[02:38] <Grim76> LjL: Try a local mirror maybe they are up and running.
[02:38] <LjL> hm not sure there *are* local mirros for kubuntu.org
[02:38] <LjL> anyway, as for me, i'll stay clear of kde 3.5.1 for the time being =)
[02:38] <Grim76> I have use the us. before and had them work while the other was down
[02:39] <Hobbsee> tgoogle cache...
[02:39] <Hobbsee>  -t
[02:39] <LjL> yeah but perhaps you're thinking about the ubuntu.com reps?
[02:39] <Grim76> possibly
[02:39] <LjL> Hobbsee: not very useful for downloading from repositories i guess ;)
[02:39] <Hobbsee> no, but that'll find you the mirror lines
[02:39] <LjL> Hobbsee: it *is* very useful indeed for reaching the wiki (actually, for making it reach to people Ubotu tells stuff to)
[02:39] <Hobbsee> true
[02:39] <jason> Red_Herring: still there?
[02:40] <Red_Herring> huh? wha?
[02:40] <Red_Herring> ya
[02:40] <Red_Herring> sorry
[02:40] <nexus> hey. im  trying to compile netcat in kubuntu and i keep getting this error come up when executing the command "make linux" undefined reference to 'res_init',
[02:41] <jason> Red_Herring: do i need to go through this process everytime i start up?
[02:41] <LjL> Red_Herring: is that the effect downtime has on you?
[02:41] <Red_Herring> listening to dragula waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too loud ;-)
[02:41] <fiction> hallo leuteeee
[02:41] <Red_Herring> jason: usually no
[02:41] <Red_Herring> but if you need to do this every time
[02:41] <jason> Red_Herring: i ask b/c i have to do everytime for my ethernet
[02:41] <Red_Herring> you can make a script to do it automatically
[02:41] <Red_Herring> i dont know how to do it
[02:42] <Red_Herring> i dont mind typing it all in
[02:42] <Red_Herring> but there *is* a way to make all of this happen at startup
[02:42] <jason> Red_Herring: what about Kwifimanager?
[02:42] <Red_Herring> try it
[02:42] <Red_Herring> it cant hurt ;-)
[02:42] <LjL> nexus: why compile it?
[02:42] <jason> Red_Herring: do i need to keep the madwifi-ng folder?
[02:43] <Red_Herring> LjL: listening to music waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too loud
[02:43] <Red_Herring> jason: it couldnt hurt
[02:43] <Red_Herring> but no
[02:43] <Red_Herring> you dont need it
[02:43] <Red_Herring> if you are a neat freak, delete it
[02:43] <Red_Herring> if not, just leave it
[02:43] <jason> ok thanks
[02:45] <fiction> hallo meine amerikanischen freunde!!!
[02:45] <fiction> ich bin ein berliner!!
[02:45] <Red_Herring> ?
[02:45] <Red_Herring> crap
[02:45] <fiction> sup hering?
[02:45] <Red_Herring> if only i had taken german in high school
[02:45] <Red_Herring> oh right
[02:45] <jason> Red_Herring: k, i'm off for now, at least until my next problem!  you guys are the best!
[02:45] <fiction> yeah.. german rocks
[02:45] <Red_Herring> they cancelled it the year i got in
[02:46] <Red_Herring> those bastards
[02:46] <Red_Herring> jason: no problem
[02:46] <fiction> well ive got it since 6th grade
[02:46] <Red_Herring> we all know spanish round here
[02:46] <fiction> first it really got on my nerves
[02:46] <Red_Herring> thats what they teach since 2nd grade
[02:46] <Red_Herring> and there isnt really even any spanish people around here
[02:46] <Red_Herring> its like 10% latino
[02:47] <nexus> i downloaded the unix source and it says on the site to compile it
[02:47] <nexus> plus when i run the console i want to just be able to type nc to run it, insted of having to nav to the nc dir
[02:47] <Red_Herring> wow
[02:48] <Red_Herring> ktorrent rocks!
[02:48] <Red_Herring> a search engine IN the client?!?!?!??!?!?
[02:48] <Red_Herring> well
[02:48] <Red_Herring> not a search engine
[02:48] <Oddie> I have an Nforce sound card and I cant get multiple programs to play sound....only one at a time
[02:48] <ccc_> yup, it's great
[02:48] <Red_Herring> plus its soooooooooo much faster than azureus
[02:48] <Red_Herring> Oddie: nice
[02:48] <Red_Herring> same here
[02:48] <Oddie> anyone know how to set that up
[02:49] <Red_Herring> but i can listen to mp3s and watch tv at the same time
[02:49] <Red_Herring> no problem there
[02:49] <UFO> Red_Herring: yep i tested yesterday and was quite nice to see the search
[02:49] <Oddie> same
[02:49] <Red_Herring> not that i use the search for anythign illegal...
[02:49] <UFO> ofcource
[02:49] <Red_Herring> but then again
[02:49] <Red_Herring> to bush and gates
[02:50] <Oddie> thats one think i would like fixed.....but thats a driver issue
[02:50] <Red_Herring> elive *should* be illegal, at least to them
[02:50] <jason> ktorrents eh?
[02:50] <jason> faster in terms of dl's or faster in terms of resources?
[02:50] <Red_Herring> both
[02:50] <Red_Herring> it seems
[02:50] <Red_Herring> speed is kinda pointless to measure
[02:50] <Red_Herring> they ALL have about the same speed
[02:51] <jason> i just started using utorrent in windows, they're coming out wiht a linux port eventually
[02:51] <Red_Herring> but resources wise, ktorrent doesnt use java- enough said
[02:51] <fiction> tsch
[02:51] <Red_Herring> jason: doubt it
[02:51] <jason> nah, not true, back in the day i used abc and azureus consistently had higher speeds
[02:51] <jason> that's what it says on their site...
[02:51] <jason> "it's in the plans"
[02:52] <Red_Herring> well
[02:52] <Red_Herring> i know one client offered a pro version
[02:52] <Red_Herring> that bypassed bittorrent dl:ul rations
[02:52] <Red_Herring> but then all of the trackers banned it
[02:53] <Red_Herring> so its not that good to "go pro"
[03:02] <nexus> ok i got it compiled, after you run the make install command when you compile anything in linux, when you want to run it, regardless of the directory you are in, you justt type in the applications name, i now have the nc executabe file, ut make install doesnt do anything, so what do i do now?
[03:02] <Red_Herring> what do you want to install?
[03:03] <nexus> netcat
[03:03] <Red_Herring> !netcat
[03:03] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[03:03] <Red_Herring> did you try to apt-get install netcat?
[03:03] <UFO> why cant i write to debian channel?
[03:03] <Red_Herring> uhh
[03:03] <Red_Herring> you need voice privleges?
[03:04] <Red_Herring> they hate you?
[03:04] <Red_Herring> no
[03:04] <nexus> ....... damn, all that effort, i should have thought of that
[03:04] <Red_Herring> nexus: thats why i <3 ubuntu
[03:04] <Red_Herring> apt-get is sooooooooo nice
[03:04] <nexus> lol i know
[03:05] <UFO> Red_Herring: voice privleges?
[03:05] <Red_Herring> well
[03:05] <Red_Herring> on my channel
[03:05] <Red_Herring> if the guy is mad
[03:05] <Red_Herring> he de-voices everyone
[03:06] <Red_Herring> so if #debian has problems with spammers
[03:06] <Red_Herring> they may de-voice everyone by default
[03:07] <UFO> Red_Herring: and how to get not de-voiced?
[03:07] <Red_Herring> beats me
[03:07] <Red_Herring> hold on
[03:07] <Red_Herring> lemme check
[03:07] <UFO> Same was on SuSE channel
[03:07] <Red_Herring> thats odd
[03:07] <UFO> im not so familiar with this irc?
[03:07] <Red_Herring> i was on some of those a few days ago
[03:07] <Red_Herring> it seemed fine
[03:09] <claydoh> does anyone know how to get kate to open all files in the same session? I am stumped
[03:14] <Red_Herring> whoa im lagging
[03:14] <Red_Herring> 64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=809 ms
[03:15] <davedorm> howdy
[03:15] <davedorm> I wanna build a module but get errors when I do make oldconfig
[03:16] <davedorm> is there a standard "shopping list" of packages I should have to compile stuff
[03:16] <davedorm> it acts like I am missing stuff
[03:16] <Red_Herring> try installing build-essentials
[03:16] <Red_Herring> that always helps
[03:17] <davedorm> can't find package
[03:17] <Red_Herring> did i spell it right?
[03:17] <Red_Herring> !build-essential
[03:17] <ubotu> hmm... build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[03:17] <Red_Herring> oh
[03:17] <UFO> and module-assistant
[03:17] <Red_Herring> no s
[03:18] <davedorm> coming now
[03:18] <davedorm> thanks...
[03:18] <davedorm> I am trying to build qemu and kqemu
[03:18] <UFO> !qemu
[03:18] <ubotu> qemu is, like, totally, an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[03:19] <davedorm> I have a good howto
[03:19] <Red_Herring> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[03:19] <Red_Herring> xp on ubuntu totally defeats the purpose of it
[03:19] <davedorm> http://www.klykken.com/node/11
[03:19] <davedorm> I am putting W2K under kubuntu
[03:19] <davedorm> no xp...
[03:20] <NeoChaosX> ...does anyone have an recommendations for a good wifi manager for KDE? Right now I'm using a script to connect to wireless networks, but I'd love a few GUI suggestions.
[03:20] <Red_Herring> http://rj.selfip.com/RJsPics/whywin.jpg
[03:20] <UFO> davedorm: was you in kernel source dir when tryed the make oldconfig
[03:20] <Red_Herring> thats my ubuntu setup right there
[03:20] <davedorm> yes
[03:24] <Red_Herring> its amazing how well wine has gotten
[03:25] <UFO> davedorm: Yes but its about two years late with programs what you could use...
[03:25] <Red_Herring> but then again
[03:25] <Red_Herring> you look at what you can run under wine
[03:25] <Red_Herring> and realize half the programs for it suck
[03:26] <UFO> davedorm: oops...
[03:26] <davedorm> I am just doing it for fun, I don't need windows
[03:26] <Red_Herring> i mean, IE sucks no matter what OS its for
[03:26] <UFO> Red_Herring: lol
[03:55] <NetGeek> which irc do people prefer in kde? konversation of ksirc?
[03:55] <Red_Herring> konverstaion is nice
[03:55] <Ethos> gaim
[03:55] <Red_Herring> no!
[03:55] <Ethos> oh irc
[03:55] <Red_Herring> use kopete
[03:56] <Red_Herring> !kopete
[03:56] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[03:56] <Red_Herring> !gaim
[03:56] <ubotu> from memory, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[03:56] <Red_Herring> !kde
[03:56] <ubotu> kde is, like, totally, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:56] <NetGeek> thanks
[03:56] <Red_Herring> !nerds
[03:57] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:57] <Red_Herring> !life
[03:57] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[03:57] <Red_Herring> my channel's bot answers "42"
[03:58] <Drakeson_> are we going to have xgl anytime soon?
[03:58] <Red_Herring> !xgl
[03:58] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:58] <Red_Herring> Drakeson_: dapper probobly
[03:58] <NetGeek> Drakeson_: probably  not till after Dapper
[03:58] <Red_Herring> after dapper?
[03:58] <Red_Herring> nah
[03:58] <Red_Herring> dapper is not due out until april
[03:59] <Red_Herring> xgl was released a few weeks ago
[03:59] <Drakeson_> I am starving to try it! do I have to compile it from source?
[04:00] <Red_Herring> Drakeson_: most likely
[04:00] <Drakeson_> or perhaps we would have an ultra ultra experimental anytime soon?
[04:00] <Red_Herring> nah
[04:00] <Red_Herring> i dont think we will for a month or so
[04:04] <LjL> is xgl of any use without any "special" window manager?
[04:05] <Red_Herring> LjL: well, you can use it for nice KDE effects
[04:05] <Red_Herring> or any effects with any manager
[04:05] <Drakeson_> well, I was thinking of trying compiz as well
[04:05] <LjL> i see
[04:06] <LjL> well i've always been all against eye candy but compiz does look like something worth trying
[04:06] <LjL> i just hope i won't get addicted to eye candy with such temptations around
[04:06] <Drakeson_> zoom is not eye candy
[04:06] <LjL> no, but it's something can can be obtained by other means as well
[04:06] <Drakeson_> I am also against eye-candy, and would remain so
[04:07] <LjL> not all eye candy is useless, mind you
[04:08] <LjL> for example, in the video, the... uh how's it called
[04:08] <Drakeson_> I don't mind about many other stuff, like morphing,...  , but zoom and transparency are not eye candy. shadow is something in between
[04:08] <LjL> err, when you move or resize windows and they stick to borders of other windows, how's that called =)
[04:09] <Drakeson_> snap?
[04:09] <Drakeson_> snap to border?
[04:09] <LjL> yeah snap to edges
[04:09] <LjL> say, that thing that makes windows actually look like they're sticking to the edges... you'd probably say it's pure eye candy at first glance
[04:10] <Red_Herring> its handy
[04:10] <Drakeson_> yes, that's functionality
[04:10] <LjL> but, honestly, i've always felt the snapping feature of most window manager sort of unintuitive... no, unintuitive's not the right word -- i know how it works, i know it's there, but i just can't co-ordinate my muscles with it
[04:10] <Red_Herring> widgets are kinda handy sometimes
[04:11] <Red_Herring> !superkaramba
[04:11] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[04:11] <LjL> and judging from the video i feel that it would get much better with that visual feedback
[04:11] <LjL> superkaramba like stuff never really appealed to me
[04:11] <LjL> really, i'm not sure what it would have to offer me
[04:11] <Red_Herring> its very nice
[04:11] <Red_Herring> but waaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooo slow
[04:12] <Drakeson_> LjL: I aslo have assigned shortcuts to Window Pack Left, Window Pack Right, ... that's also very handy. even when I get to gnome, I kill metacity and start kwin solely because of these features
[04:12] <Red_Herring> nice
[04:12] <Red_Herring> kde is so much more functional than gnome
[04:12] <Red_Herring> it has keybindings for everything
[04:13] <Drakeson_> I am a little worring about the superkaramba getting seriously included in kde4
[04:13] <Red_Herring> Drakeson_: no
[04:13] <Red_Herring> superkaramba is gonna be replaced by plasma
[04:13] <Red_Herring> which will heavily use xgl
[04:13] <Red_Herring> !plasma
[04:13] <ubotu> Red_Herring: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:13] <Drakeson_> yes I know, but I fear my desktop get cluttered
[04:14] <Red_Herring> ya
[04:14] <Drakeson_> I don't see much use for superkaramba/plasmoids yet
[04:15] <Red_Herring> well
[04:15] <LjL> i'm happy with my panel clock and weather watcher honestly ;)
[04:15] <Red_Herring> its just like osx's widgets
[04:15] <LjL> well i'm not sure what os x's widgets are all about, either, not that i've ever tried them/it
[04:16] <Red_Herring> well
[04:16] <LjL> i mean, if i need a calculator, i start a calculator, what am i missing here?
[04:16] <Red_Herring> they are handy
[04:16] <Red_Herring> LjL: you can use widgets to control your mediaplayer
[04:16] <Drakeson_> superkaramba=apple.widgets=vista.gadgets. it would gather more people for sure but in terms of functionality I am not very amazed
[04:16] <Red_Herring> or rss feeds
[04:16] <Red_Herring> straight to your desktop
[04:17] <LjL> i don't even ever *see* my desktop, who doesn't have a window maximized (or otherwise covering the desktop) anyway?
[04:17] <LeeJunFan> superkaramba==cpu eater.
[04:17] <Red_Herring> keybindings bring them up
[04:17] <Red_Herring> LeeJunFan: ya
[04:17] <Drakeson_> if I need a calculator I run a terminal and run octave there. this way I would have a Matlab instead of a silly calc
[04:17] <LjL> ok, but then keybinding can directory control my media player -- without any intermediate window -- or bring up my RSS reader, etc
[04:17] <Red_Herring> true
[04:17] <LeeJunFan> I don't like when a cpu useage app uses more cpu than any other app.
[04:18] <LjL> LeeJunFan: :)
[04:18] <Red_Herring> heh
[04:18] <LjL> top looks like it uses a lot of cpu as well, though i "suspect" that's just an artifact ;)
[04:20] <Drakeson_> I am sure many people would be amazed playing with plasmoids/widgets/microsoft gadgets, but the excitement would soon dampen for real users
[04:20] <LjL> anyway, all i can say is that since the advent of graphical interfaces, they've been struggling with two contrasting needs: 1) having as much real screen estate as possible for applications  2) having common things like clocks, calculators, monitors, etc visible and easily reachable
[04:20] <Red_Herring> i dont know
[04:20] <Red_Herring> mostly yes
[04:20] <Red_Herring> but rss feeds are nice
[04:20] <Red_Herring> as are battery monitors
[04:21] <LjL> infinite different and "innovative" compromises have been invented during all these years, to mix these two
[04:21] <Red_Herring> and clocks
[04:21] <LjL> Red_Herring: yeah but can't you have those in your KDE tray as everybody's always done since Microsoft invented trays? ;)
[04:21] <Red_Herring> LjL: true
[04:21] <Drakeson_> the tray would rock in kde4
[04:21] <Red_Herring> but e17 is faster than any other wm i have ever used
[04:22] <Red_Herring> and it doesn use a system tray
[04:22] <Red_Herring> it is all widgets
[04:22] <LjL> Drakeson_: hope so, 'cause it kinda disappoints in 3 ;)
[04:22] <Red_Herring> well
[04:23] <Red_Herring> if only programs just met tehstandards of system trays
[04:23] <Drakeson_> its the design is very promising now
[04:23] <Red_Herring> it wouldnt be a problem
[04:23] <LjL> that's a factor yeah
[04:23] <LjL> but really, the tray's functions should probably be better separated. trays are used by programs for a number of *different* things, ending up in horrible clutter
[04:24] <LeeJunFan> wow, ati has an actual installer for linux now, too bad it doesn't work.
[04:24] <Drakeson_> yes, that was the point, and it lead to decide not to allow the app show whatever they desire
[04:24] <davedorm> this is pretty sick right here
[04:25] <UFO> LeeJunFan: which ati card do you have
[04:25] <LeeJunFan> 9800, problem is it didn't create libfglrx_pp.so.1 link to libfglrx_pp.so.1.0
[04:26] <LjL> currently, i think the tray's functions can be broken down in  1) communication - background apps need to tell things to the user  2) access to "big" apps - one click, and the app comes into foreground  3) access to "applets" - one click, and the mixer comes into foreground  4) tray-only applications
[04:26] <UFO> LeeJunFan: ok.
[04:26] <LjL> and point 1) is a whole story by itself --- the are apps that need to show one-time messages, others need to show a continuous "status", others want to tell you when something turns on or off...
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> UFO: well, that and I didn't have an ld.so.conf file so it didn't know to look in /usr/X11R6/lib
[04:26] <Knowerrors> !trash
[04:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Knowerrors
[04:27] <Knowerrors> anybody know how to display trash can on desktop?
[04:27] <Red_Herring> drag and drop?
[04:27] <UFO> LeeJunFan: the drivers are weakest link of linux :(
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> UFO: perhaps next to commercial software availability. ie - can't go get what you need from N-mart.
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> brb, maybe. See how bad this hosed my xorg.conf :)
[04:38] <Distro^Junkie> don't have any cd-r's left but have dvd-r... any difference in burning kubuntu to it ?
[04:39] <hatake_kakashi> Distro^Junkie: doubt it, but you may waste those extra spaces
[04:39] <Knowerrors> Anybody use Epsonutil or mtink?
[04:39] <Knowerrors> escputil
[04:39] <LeeJunFan> well, as usual ATI's crap doesn't compile against a new kernel, if 2.6.15.1 is really that new.
[04:39] <Distro^Junkie> lol not worried bout that as got over 200 blank dvd's
[04:40] <UFO> Distro^Junkie: i could not write cd imgage to dvd-rw
[04:42] <Distro^Junkie> hmm will have to hunt around or download the dvd version
[04:47] <jason> hi all
[04:51] <UFO> hi
[05:09] <Knowerrors> arrgh, why does trash.desktop show when I browse /home/user/Desktop in konq, but doesn't appear on my desktop?
[05:19] <freeflying> May anyone have a look on this screenshot http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/200602121215.png
[05:19] <freeflying> and tell me how about the display of the fonts
[05:20] <Sebastian> Is linux easy?
[05:21] <Knowerrors> Sebastian: to install yes, to use for general things, yea, to customize and configure, no
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: linux is easy enough compared to what it was.. and for how much you pay, its obviously worth it :P
[05:22] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: DUDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> freeflying: I don't see anything wrong with it
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: what?
[05:22] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: just saying hi it is me bushito =P
[05:23] <hatake_kakashi> _root: you should _not_ be surfing as root :P
[05:23] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: ahh you changed your nick again heh
[05:23] <freeflying> hatake_kakashi: thx
[05:23] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: well just wanted to make my nick equal to the one i use in games =) so i changed to ragna
[05:24] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: ah ok
[05:24] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: so how is the kernel doing??
[05:25] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: still on my same old one, I think I have configured it but I have not compiled it yet :)
[05:25] <hatake_kakashi>  14:27:35 up 7 days, 20:47,  1 user,  load average: 0.45, 0.82, 0.72
[05:25] <Sebastian> what is X windows ?
[05:25] <luisito> hey, I have ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop. Now I just want kubuntu-desktop and not the ubuntu desktop. Can I uninstall Ubuntu-desktop without problem and just keep the kde enviroment?
[05:26] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: GUI windows.. the world of 'point-and-click'
[05:26] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: omg 7 days up xD hahahaha
[05:26] <Sebastian> is it an OS?
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: no its Xorg server.. its GUI interface
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> GUI frontend for linux :P
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: :)
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: its still alive and kicking
[05:27] <ragna> Sebastian: in a transaltion =P it is what makes you have a desktop =P
[05:28] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: hehehe i wonder how hot is the procesor =P must be burning a hell there
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: fyi, linux is NOT an OS, its only kernel. Others based various bits a piece of things added to it to make it a distribution (aka distro)
[05:28] <nothanks> so this is a dumb question.. and I've tried reading readmes and forums and gotten nowhere.. but every time I ./configure anything it always says glib is missing, so.. how do I install/get glib? :(
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: 42.1 degrees celsius :) if you want I can post a screenie
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> nothanks: apt-cache search glib
[05:29] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: omg!! hahah do it!1
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> !glib
[05:29] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> ffs you are dumb ubotu ;P
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> !info glib-dev
[05:31] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8522
[05:33] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: he he he he he xD hahahaha
[05:33] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: the power of RASIS compliance OS :)
[05:34] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: your laptie is gonna run away from you =D while you asleep
[05:34] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell nothanks about compile
[05:34] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: laptie?
[05:34] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: notebook pc
[05:34] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: lol its a desktop pc
[05:34] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: laptopm laptok how ever you call it
[05:34] <hatake_kakashi> laptop
[05:35] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: just wonder why has it been up 7 days without a rest what were you doing?? = P
[05:35] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: its a machine ;)
[05:35] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: machines needs rest 2 ya know ;D
[05:35] <hatake_kakashi> it doesn't realise its been up for that long
[05:35] <hatake_kakashi> nah
[05:36] <hatake_kakashi> its like telling a rock how to fly :)
[05:36] <ragna> hahahahahahhahaa
[05:36] <ragna> ;D theyll fly someday youll see
[05:37] <ragna> heheh you love your old style bitchx uuhh =P
[05:37] <robotgeek> irssi > bitchx, lol
[05:38] <ragna> robotgeek: hehehe
[05:38] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: lol
[05:38] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: irssi :D
[05:39] <Sebastian> is it linux or GNU/Linux?
[05:39] <hatake_kakashi> never underestimate the power of CLI applications.. like windows
[05:39] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: GNU/Linux
[05:39] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: ammm the same they are ugly those 2 =)
[05:39] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: no way :P
[05:40] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: yes way
[05:40] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: what do you use then? emacs irc client? :p
[05:40] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: hahah "konversation"
[05:40] <ragna> i am a KDe fan =P
[05:40] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: ewww GUI = bulky :P
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> ;)
[05:41] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: just dont move
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> lmao
[05:41] <Sebastian> how do i get kubuntu ot klook as good as windows xp?is it something with my computer specs?
[05:41] <ragna> xD ahhg i hate you =P
[05:41] <ragna> heheheheheh
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: you can but not supported/guarenteed :P get xpde
[05:42] <Sebastian> xpde? is that a joke?
[05:42] <ragna> !ati
[05:42] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:42] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: no.. its xp desktop environment, like gnome, and kde
[05:43] <AZ_AS> hi all...just wondering howto get adept working...says I need to do it in root to install packages so how could I log in as root under live cd?
[05:44] <Sebastian> what do you mean by not supported/guaranteed
[05:44] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: I don't understand why do you want to make linux look like windows -_- seriously
[05:44] <Distro^Junkie> most ppl come to linux to get away from xp
[05:44] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: because I don't think that sort of thing is in the repository, so you have to get it and compile it yourself.. if it breaks anywhere, you don't get support here :P
[05:44] <UFO> Sebastian: do you have resolution right in our linux install
[05:45] <Distro^Junkie> linux is all bout freedom and choices
[05:45] <hatake_kakashi> Distro^Junkie: I can understand that but I cannot understand whats the purpose of making linux look like windows.. if you want to try linux as it is you should touch it as it is
[05:45] <Sebastian> i meant kubuntu
[05:45] <Distro^Junkie> I agree hatake_kakashi
[05:45] <Sebastian> and i meant it in that for example...the graphics can be inconsistent
[05:46] <UFO> hatake_kakashi: have you ever used osx it looks great those icons :)
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: btw, fyi xpde does *not* look exactly like windows xp.. blame ms for being propriatory and making their icons patented and trademarked :P
[05:47] <AZ_AS> os x is nice indeed
[05:47] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: yeah I've used it when I went to uni, OSX 10.3 (Panther?)
[05:47] <Distro^Junkie> microsloth
[05:47] <AZ_AS> got kubuntu and os x (tiger) on at same time
[05:47] <hatake_kakashi> windows = bloatware
[05:47] <Distro^Junkie> windows = virii and spyware
[05:47] <hatake_kakashi> he
[05:47] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[05:48] <AZ_AS> is it possible to run root or su on the live cd at all?
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: sudo <app>
[05:49] <gokul> has anybody recently been able to install mplayer on kubuntu from nerim.net ?
[05:49] <UFO> hatake_kakashi: we spent over 100 000 euros to licenses for sql server and servers with windows... and it got lot of lisenses until you could use in internet an so on...
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: heh
[05:49] <UFO> and the actual cd was 10 euros for every software
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> !mplayer
[05:50] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: I'm sure they made you listen to the nice classic musak whilst they solve your BSOD? ;)
[05:51] <UFO> hatake_kakashi: and you have buy 10 000 euros license if you put an extra prosessor in server....
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: yeah I heard about that
[05:51] <AZ_AS> ty hatake_kakashi
[05:51] <Sebastian> whats a simputer?
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: are you trolling? google is your friend :P
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: np
[05:52] <Sebastian> what do you mean trolling?
[05:52] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: search that up on wikipedia
[05:52] <Sebastian> ok
[05:53] <Sebastian> no
[05:53] <Distro^Junkie> ??
[05:53] <Sebastian> i am not "trolling"
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> Sebastian: why ask questions when answers can be mostly found via googling?
[05:54] <vijay> hi everybody, can any one tell me how to modify fstab, in ordermount my windows partitions in write mode for a user???
[05:54] <Distro^Junkie> Sebastian what are you looking to use linux for ?
[05:54] <vijay> hi everybody, can any one tell me how to modify fstab, in ordermount my windows partitions in write mode for a user???
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> vijay: you can't do write for NTFS unless if you are asking for trouble
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> vijay: and don't repeat :P
[05:55] <Distro^Junkie> vijay is windows in ntfs format ?
[05:55] <UFO> Distro^Junkie: probably learning
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> Distro^Junkie: by default, windows likes to make it ntfs
[05:55] <vijay> hatake_kakashi:sorry i didn't done intentionally, it was a mistake
[05:55] <vijay> no it is in vfat
[05:55] <UFO> you could use ext3 in windows
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> vijay: /dev/foo /mnt/foo vfat rw,defaults 0 0
[05:56] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: yes but you need to download the driver to make it work
[05:56] <UFO> hatake_kakashi: yep
[05:56] <vijay> hatake_kakashi:ok
[05:57] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: that's what I'm planning to do when I get a computer that can support SATA and when I get my big hard drives from my brother :D
[05:57] <Sebastian> Distro^Junkie: a free alternative to windows
[05:57] <UFO> its better because you can use eny user rights on fat
[05:57] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: do you know how to fix the "alsa is already in use cannot use sound device" =)
[05:58] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: you probably have something hooked to that module
[05:58] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: close any sound based apps and if that still does not help, you might want to temporarily close KMix
[05:58] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: hhmm...
[05:59] <hatake_kakashi> vijay: replace foo with your hardware
[05:59] <UFO> hatake_kakashi: those ethernet hard-drive cases arent so expencive enymore... oh... sata donno?
[06:00] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: yeah, I have 2x400GB SATA hard drives that are plugged into my brother's computer, my computer cannot handle SATA drives because its at least 5 years old
[06:00] <gokul> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:00] <gokul>   mplayer-k6: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.5.0-1) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:00] <gokul>               Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.10) but 1.0.9-2 is to be installed
[06:00] <gokul>               Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2-2) but 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:01] <gokul>               Depends: libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.7-1) but 0.10.5-2 is to be installed
[06:01] <gokul>               Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[06:01] <gokul>               Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.5) but 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:01] <gokul>               Depends: libjack0.100.0-0 (>= 0.100.0) but it is not installable
[06:01] <gokul>               Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.10.2) but 1.10.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:01] <gokul>               Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[06:01] <hatake_kakashi> !tell gokul about pastebin
[06:01] <ragna> no flooding! =O!!!!
[06:01] <gokul>               Depends: libxrender1 (>= 1:0.9.0.2) but 1:0.9.0-1 is to be installed
[06:01] <gokul> E: Broken packages
[06:01] <gokul> this is what happens when i try to install mplayer
[06:01] <gokul> even after universe and multiverse are enabled
[06:01] <UFO> gokul: using dapper?
[06:01] <P3L|C4N0> gokul, no flood please!
[06:01] <ragna> gokul: no flooding!!
[06:01] <gokul> breezy
[06:01] <gokul> oh sorry,
[06:02] <hatake_kakashi> there's too many people who just don't read the topic at all -_-
[06:02] <hatake_kakashi> Please don't paste into the channel:  use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:02] <UFO> gokul: 64bit?
[06:02] <gokul> nopes, regular old athlon
[06:02] <UFO> you could use seveas
[06:02] <UFO> !seveas
[06:02] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:03] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: you are not going to tell me that you use dpkg
[06:03] <hatake_kakashi> s/use/used
[06:03] <gokul> changing the topic text slighly might help - "Please don't paste large amounts of text into the channel. This may lead to your connection being terminated." for e.g.
[06:03] <gokul> apt-get
[06:04] <UFO> Need some free air, and my balls are in fire because of the laptop :)
[06:04] <UFO> brb
[06:04] <hatake_kakashi> UFO, you are not going to tell me you have lappy on your legs
[06:04] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: odd
[06:04] <gokul> wait, i will try using pastebin to show my sources.list
[06:05] <vijay> hatake_kakashi:i am setting the option as "user,rw" in fstab, and i think this will mount that partition as write for user???
[06:05] <gokul> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/550689
[06:06] <gokul> vijar, user means that ordinary users can mount it
[06:06] <gokul> you have to use uid=xxxx,gid=xxxx if you want that user to have ownership of the partition
[06:06] <hatake_kakashi> vijay: check manpages for more info on mount.. 'man mount'
[06:06] <vijay> gokul:yes, iwant that one only
[06:08] <AZ_AS> hmm, ok...tried installing a package through adept...no luckyet and I did start it as sudo adept
[06:08] <gokul> i am going to try and disable marillat's repository
[06:09] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: your sources.list looks a little odd, I'm not sure if I can help, why do you have backports though?
[06:09] <gokul> ok, that did it
[06:09] <gokul> marillat's and multiverse both contain mplayer-k6 packages
[06:09] <gokul> the multiverse one works.
[06:10] <hatake_kakashi> hmm ok
[06:10] <gokul> yeah, i am not sure why backports are enabled. i think it was there by default
[06:10] <gokul> backports would be more useful for hoary i guess
[06:10] <gokul> i guess someone can put that info about mplayer on the ubuntu/kubuntu pages
[06:11] <gokul> because a lot of wikis suggest adding marillat's packages in sources.list
[06:12] <hatake_kakashi> well I didn't see that part though, I followed the guide from ubotu
[06:12] <hatake_kakashi> more or less, but I added extra packages from universe/multiverse
[06:14] <gokul> thanks for the help
[06:14] <gokul> mplayer works now
[06:16] <SigmaX> Yo; I'm trying a multi-head display setup... but keep getting "Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section."
[06:16] <SigmaX> My xorg.conf is posted at sigmax.no-ip.org/~eric/xorg.conf if anybody can help
[06:17] <AZ_AS> is it possible to get software installed on a live cd eval?would like to try out some software but can't seem to get adept working
[06:17] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: did you compile it yourself or did you get it from the repos?
[06:18] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: it should be technically possible if there is a rw partition that you can do your work on, I'm not too sure about breezy's live-cd
[06:18] <gokul> repos
[06:18] <gokul> multiverse
[06:18] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: ahh ok, I've compiled mine from sources heh
[06:19] <gokul> i have never heard kakahashi as a name. is you actual name takahashi ?
[06:19] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: no. it came from anime
[06:19] <gokul> ok
[06:20] <AZ_AS> hatake_kakashi: no, there's no partition since I still have 98 on here...only reason it's on here is since this was loaned to me by my father :p
[06:20] <gokul> though i have never watched it, people tell me that they think i am a big fan of dragonball Z
[06:20] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: well, I don't know then.. I haven't seen how those livecds are configured for ubuntu/kubuntu
[06:20] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: heh, because they recognise your nick as one :)
[06:21] <_kvarro> Hello all, does anybody know how to get a wireless ethernet interface running in kubuntu?
[06:21] <gokul> yeah, but gokul is my actual name. ( and not very uncommon in India)
[06:21] <AZ_AS> thanks...maybe I'll wait until i can actually put linux on a computer ;)
[06:21] <robotgeek> _kvarro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:21] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: it would probably be easily said that you can try this.. cat /etc/fstab| grep rw
[06:22] <_kvarro> I'll give that a try thanks
[06:22] <gokul> AZ_AS : livecds probably mount /usr as read only
[06:22] <UFO> SigmaX: you could try look here http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#TwinView
[06:22] <hatake_kakashi> any partitions/disks listed from that command is basically read/write
[06:22] <AZ_AS> what does that command do?
[06:22] <gokul> since they don't expect you to install software
[06:22] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: not for knoppix :)
[06:22] <UFO> SigmaX: it should work for ubuntu too
[06:22] <AZ_AS> i always did like doing the unexpected ;)
[06:22] <ragna> !ati men!
[06:22] <ubotu> ragna: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:22] <ragna> !ati
[06:22] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:23] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: odd
[06:23] <SigmaX> UFO:  Thanx... I'll keep tinkering then.
[06:24] <hatake_kakashi> goku in Japanese means monkey god or something, like there was anime/cartoon based off that and I think in DBZ, it was known for a character
[06:24] <AZ_AS> yep...tried that cat command,nothing
[06:24] <gokul> yeah, son goku
[06:24] <hatake_kakashi> gokul: yeah that
[06:25] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: well, basically you don't have any partition/disks that has read/write capability, thought that does not prevent you from forcing it as rw, but I wouldn't recommend it
[06:25] <gokul> AZ_AS : can you put the contents of your /etc/fstab into pastebin and show us ?
[06:26] <AZ_AS> gokul: don't know how, bit rusty since I've not had a chance to fool around with linux in ages
[06:26] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: cat /etc/fstab
[06:26] <hatake_kakashi> copy and paste that whilst in konsole and paste it into the konqueror
[06:27] <gokul> and copy paste what you see into http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:28] <AZ_AS> sent
[06:28] <UFO> AZ_AS: give us the link
[06:29] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: you use Kubuntu or another distro?' =P
[06:29] <AZ_AS> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/550703
[06:29] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: kubuntu
[06:30] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: why do you use kubuntu?
[06:30] <gokul> AZ_AS everything is read only
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: why not
[06:30] <gokul> you wont be able to install software
[06:30] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: dont answer me with another question =P
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: :p
[06:31] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: just wanna know why you use kubuntu instead of debian..
[06:31] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: or another distro =O
[06:31] <gokul> ok. thanks guys. i gotta leave
[06:31] <UFO> ragna: the stable are coming out more than once in 3 yers
[06:31] <AZ_AS> bye gokul_
[06:32] <ragna> UFO: stable on name cause i use unstable and it is pretty stable to me =P
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: lol, ubuntu got high recommendations for basic OS plus it uses deb packages. I prefer KDE so I chose kubuntu as a result. I will try debian later on when I feel confident with debian type feel
[06:32] <AZ_AS> so best bet for me would be to just wait until installation's possible?
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> AZ_AS: 'df -h' and paste the output onto pastebin
[06:32] <SmrtJustin> I just rebooted after upgrading to dapper, and my resolution is now at 640x480, and KDE won't let me change it to anything decent.
[06:33] <UFO> ragna: how is your security updates?
[06:33] <SmrtJustin> how do I get my resolutions and refresh rates back?
[06:33] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: well to in my opinion all are the same i just wanna know why you use kubuntu thats all
[06:33] <ragna> UFO: i think i dont got any... ;) but it got plenty
[06:33] <manveru> SmrtJustin: try 'sudo dexconf'
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: not exactly the same, they have different ideals, different package managers, etc
[06:34] <AZ_AS> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/550707
[06:34] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: like apt in kubuntu or apt in debian as the same apt in elive?? =P
[06:34] <jeffreygoodhart> hello, im a newb and i cant figure out how to install kxdocker, can anyone please help?
[06:34] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: yeah but there is also rpm and emerge, as well as ports
[06:34] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: well those are another families =) i am talking about .deb family
[06:35] <SmrtJustin> manveru: sudo: unable to lookup HPLinux via gethostbyname()
[06:35] <SmrtJustin> manveru: I changed my hostname before rebooting to HPLinux by editng /etc/hostname
[06:35] <manveru> SmrtJustin: well, then you've b0rken something
[06:35] <SmrtJustin> manveru: great
[06:36] <manveru> could you change it back again?
[06:36] <SmrtJustin> do you think the hostname thats causing the problem?
[06:36] <UFO> ragna: there are plenty of software in unstable you can uninstall...
[06:36] <UFO> ragna: there are plenty of software in unstable you CANT uninstall...
[06:37] <ragna> UFO: like???
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: ahh yes, but like I said, it was highly commended for newcomers, so I assume its fairly developed and that it is ongoing thing.. and another reason is that its a step before I goto debian
[06:37] <SmrtJustin> I'll try it
[06:38] <manveru> have to pop out for a second... trying japanese input...
[06:38] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: well i am not rushing you cause i am in kubuntu 2 i was just askignwhy you were here thats all
[06:38] <jgood2709> hey can anyone help me install kxdocker real quick?
[06:39] <jgood2709> ill be ur best friend
[06:39] <jgood2709> i have a basic idea of how to do it, just need to fill in a couple gaps
[06:41] <manveru> d
[06:41] <jgood2709> yo dude
[06:41] <jgood2709> u know how to install kxdocker?
[06:41] <AZ_AS> brb
[06:42] <manveru> apt-get install kxdocker
[06:42] <jgood2709> yeah, but it cant find the package
[06:42] <manveru> uh
[06:42] <manveru> what repos do you havE?
[06:42] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: wb, well, I like to get more info and help, and sometimes helping people
[06:42] <jgood2709> sorry, i duno what repos is/are
[06:43] <jgood2709> just got linux today
[06:43] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: thx, oh i see, you got any info about activating real transparency?? =)
[06:43] <manveru> ok, then you don't have enough :)
[06:43] <manveru> !repositories
[06:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:44] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: at last i installed my ati card propertly n.n and now it is working iwth 3d support
[06:44] <jgood2709> ok you've lost me
[06:44] <manveru> jgood2709: just use the first link
[06:44] <manveru> it explains what repositories are, and how to get more of them
[06:45] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: heh, well I have no idea how to enable real transparency, there's fake/hacked transparencies available.. but I doubt if you can get real transparency for the time being
[06:45] <c13> what is with edubuntu?
[06:45] <hatake_kakashi> !edubuntu
[06:45] <ubotu> it has been said that edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[06:45] <UFO> c13: lot kiddy stuff
[06:45] <c13> ahh
[06:45] <manveru> hatake_kakashi: it is usable... but crashes for me all the time...
[06:45] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: i love your =P optimist
[06:46] <hatake_kakashi> manveru: edubuntu?
[06:46] <manveru> hatake_kakashi: no... transparency
[06:46] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: lol, well I think fake/hacked transparency is good enough for a system spec of mine
[06:46] <Sebastian> ragna: rokr?
[06:46] <hatake_kakashi> manveru: ahh ok, well I haven't enabled full transparency anyway, only hacked transparency
[06:46] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: tsk dont be a loser be a winner and get transparency ;)
[06:47] <ragna> Sebastian: Ragna- roK
[06:47] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: blah
[06:47] <hatake_kakashi> :p
[06:47] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: bleh =D
[06:47] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: my pc is at least 5 years old considering the specs :p
[06:47] <UFO> why transparency?
[06:48] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: hehe mine 2;D
[06:48] <manveru> because it's looking sweet :)
[06:48] <ragna> UFO: give a nice candy eye to your desktop
[06:48] <c13> any kdesklets icon stuff... panel eye candy thingy
[06:49] <manveru> http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[06:49] <manveru> that features a nice way to get transparency running
[06:49] <manveru> towards the end of the tutorial
[06:50] <manveru> http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step7
[06:50] <manveru> to be exact
[06:51] <manveru> you don't need to install that baghira-stuff for that
[06:51] <manveru> (tho it looks really nice)
[06:53] <jgood2709> looks like that howto is for a different package manager
[06:53] <UFO> hmm... it does look nice...
[06:54] <manveru> jgood2709: it is, but you don't need to do anything but editing your xorg.conf and kde-settings
[06:54] <manveru> i've done that tutorial with kubuntu already, but didn't write down how to do it... :|
[06:54] <jgood2709> heh
[06:55] <jgood2709> should i use adept as a similar program, or is it different
[06:56] <manveru> you can install baghira from the repos
[06:57] <manveru> it's called kwin-baghira
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Yay baghira
[06:57] <manveru> and lies in the universe-repos
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Though it would be nice if someone put together a complete macOSX theme
[06:58] <manveru> i only use the order of the window-decoration-buttons with plastik
[06:58] <manveru> also it's making my old laptop even more slow
[06:58] <jgood2709> i love it, but i maybe because right now im really on osx
[06:59] <jgood2709> im trying to get my pc out of windows control
[06:59] <manveru> yeah...
[06:59] <c13> and one last kestion how can i set the "kdm" resolution .. hertz.?
[06:59] <manveru> c13: it's the resolution of xorg.conf
[07:00] <c13> any gui for that manveru ?
[07:00] <UFO> c13: system-settings---->display
[07:01] <c13> UFO: dont have that
[07:01] <c13> oh
[07:01] <c13> UFO: i mean for the KDM too.
[07:02] <c13> stay's 75 hertz and need 60
[07:02] <c13> like kde
[07:03] <arthur> !w32codecs
[07:03] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:06] <jgood2709> ok so are repositories like auto-updaters/installers that connect to the internet
[07:06] <UFO> c13: dont you have system settings menu in your kmenu?
[07:08] <c13> yes yes
[07:08] <c13> and it's already at 60 hertz. i just set it
[07:09] <c13> but the kdm when you log on is still att 75 hertz and wanna change that
[07:10] <UFO> c13: have you restarted the xserver?
[07:11] <c13> nope but it restarts when you log out no
[07:11] <c13> but i did not retarst yet
[07:12] <UFO> c13: ctrl+alt+bacspace
[07:16] <c13> still pops back to 75 hertz
[07:17] <UFO> look into xorg.conf
[07:18] <UFO> there it should be resoulution@hz
[07:18] <UFO> c13: are you trying to get picture on tv or in tft
[07:19] <c13> tft. monitor... hansol
[07:20] <MrDarkUser> I just installed kubuntu.. and it didn't ask me for a root password?!?!
[07:20] <c13> my screen flickers when it's at 75 hertz i need to set my kdm and kde to 60hertz
[07:20] <MrDarkUser> I was able to sudo passwd root and get it
[07:20] <MrDarkUser> and set it...
[07:20] <MrDarkUser> but adept and the su program freak out
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> MrDarkUser: root account is disabled by default, you are mainly to use sudo if you want su to do certain things
[07:21] <UFO> MrDarkUser: or you should edit kdmrc file for allowrootlogin=true and login as root
[07:22] <sebastian> need help
[07:22] <MrDarkUser> hatake_kakashi: but after I set the root password to something different than my user's password, it still says it's logging on in read only mode
[07:22] <sebastian> just installed kubuntu
[07:22] <sebastian> how do i mount my partition
[07:22] <sebastian> so i can read the files that are stored in windows
[07:22] <sebastian> from here
[07:22] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: NTFS?
[07:22] <hatake_kakashi> MrDarkUser: for adpet? odd
[07:22] <sebastian> windows xp
[07:23] <sebastian> yes
[07:23] <UFO> sebastian: arent they in /media/hda*
[07:23] <MrDarkUser> sebastian: this might work, right click on desktop -->configure desktop-->behavior -->device icons --> select unmounted HD) .. ? I had fun with that
[07:23] <sebastian> UFO: what is that?
[07:23] <sebastian> i will not lose any files by doing any of this right_
[07:24] <UFO> go to directory /media/hda something
[07:24] <sebastian> do i go to konsole_
[07:24] <sebastian> ?
[07:24] <hatake_kakashi> !ntfs
[07:24] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:24] <UFO> sebastian: or with konqueror
[07:24] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: as long as you don't set it to rw, you won't lose data
[07:25] <sebastian> hatake_kakashi: what do i do first?
[07:25] <sebastian> open konsole?
[07:25] <hatake_kakashi> what ubotu just said
[07:25] <sebastian> go to that page?
[07:25] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: yes
[07:26] <sebastian> which is easier, with the script or manually?
[07:27] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: depends.. probably script is easy for beginners, I'm used to doing it manually since I started out that way
[07:28] <sebastian> The script must be downloaded before it can be used. Type the following lines.
[07:28] <sebastian> cd
[07:28] <sebastian> wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[07:28] <sebastian> where do i "type" that?
[07:28] <UFO> arent the windows partitons automatic in media directory?
[07:29] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: in konsole, Alt+F2 and type konsole
[07:29] <sebastian> cd and enter or start typing from the wget ?
[07:30] <sebastian> ok
[07:30] <sebastian> it sys
[07:30] <sebastian> says
[07:30] <sebastian> diskmounter saved
[07:30] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: continue following the steps
[07:30] <sebastian> sudo bash diskmounter ?
[07:31] <hatake_kakashi> yes
[07:31] <sebastian> i type bash?
[07:31] <UFO> sebastian: have you looked into /media directory ????
[07:31] <sebastian> y default the disks will be writable only by root and
[07:31] <sebastian> sebastian (sebastian)
[07:31] <sebastian> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)
[07:31] <sebastian> do i?
[07:32] <sebastian> writable only by root?
[07:32] <hatake_kakashi> only by root for ntfs.. in fact it should really be read only
[07:32] <sebastian> then type n
[07:32] <sebastian> right?
[07:33] <sebastian> where it asks y n
[07:33] <hatake_kakashi> yeah
[07:33] <c13> UFO: you saying nfts is already supposed to be mounted from install?
[07:33] <sebastian> UFO: HOW do i go to the media directory?
[07:33] <UFO> cd /media
[07:33] <sebastian> system>storage media?
[07:34] <sebastian> Added /dev/hda1 as '/media/hda1'
[07:34] <sebastian> NTFS drives will be mounted read-only!
[07:34] <sebastian> All windows and mac partitions will now be mounted every time you boot
[07:34] <sebastian> You do not need to reboot, the partitions are mounted now too
[07:34] <sebastian> hatake_kakashi:
[07:34] <UFO> :)
[07:34] <UFO> as '/media/hda1'
[07:34] <hatake_kakashi> ok
[07:34] <sebastian> system>storage media?
[07:35] <sebastian> close konsole?
[07:35] <UFO> sebastian: open konqueror
[07:35] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: only when the script has finnished.. do check mount before you close it
[07:35] <sebastian> it finished
[07:35] <sebastian> i closed
[07:35] <sebastian> UFO
[07:35] <sebastian> i opened it
[07:36] <sebastian> oh i see it
[07:36] <sebastian> hard disk
[07:36] <sebastian> hda1
[07:36] <sebastian> ok
[07:36] <sebastian> so
[07:36] <sebastian> a question here is
[07:36] <sebastian> will i be able to transfer
[07:36] <sebastian> files from windows to kubuntu
[07:36] <sebastian> and vice versa
[07:36] <httpdss> anyone using kexi >= 1:1.4.90-0ubuntu0breezy2 ???
[07:36] <sebastian> and delete files i ahve on windows
[07:37] <sebastian> from here
[07:37] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: ONLY to kubuntu, not kubuntu to windows
[07:37] <UFO> no you sholdnt write to windows partition but you can copy them to kubuntu
[07:37] <sebastian> why not?
[07:37] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: I assume it is not mounted as rw
[07:37] <sebastian> and is tht changeable?
[07:37] <sebastian> safely changeable
[07:37] <sebastian> no it isnt
[07:38] <c13> proprieter read write...
[07:38] <UFO> microsoft doesnt give ntfs specs
[07:38] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: write support is NOT supported for NTFS linux.. unless if you have nothing to lose.. or if you dare to try catpive-ntfs
[07:38] <sebastian> ok, never mind,
[07:39] <sebastian> i can still have access to my windows files from here
[07:39] <sebastian> so thts fair enough
[07:39] <sebastian> i can-t delete anyhting from that partiton though?
[07:39] <hatake_kakashi> s/catpive-ntfs/captive-ntfs
[07:39] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: not even create or edit new files
[07:40] <c13> sebastian: try right clicking on the drive to change the permission's
[07:40] <sebastian> i dont want to: fuck up windows, lose any important/crucial windows info, lose any of my files
[07:40] <hatake_kakashi> c13: I hope you are not trying to make sebastian corrupt his ntfs if you are talking about that
[07:40] <UFO> if you need to transfer from linux to win you should create a fat32 partition for that
[07:40] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: or ext3
[07:41] <UFO> Yep and the driver for win
[07:41] <sebastian> wait, i have about six rewriteable cds and windows is a boot away so i wont have to delete/cahnge any data, if i want to move anythign from kubuntu to windows i will burn a cd and reboot
[07:42] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: wait.. isn't your linux on ext3?
[07:42] <sebastian> yes
[07:42] <UFO> sebastian: the reason why used sometime the fat32 partion was becouse i downloaded with p2p software from both systems
[07:43] <sebastian> et3 and ntfs
[07:43] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: the only problem with fat32 is that it does not support filesizes over 4GB for a single file
[07:43] <sebastian> ext3
[07:43] <UFO> and had amule and emule and they used same files
[07:43] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: you can read/write data with windows (extra driver needed)
[07:43] <sebastian> i CAN safely open the mp3 files etc from the new partition though?
[07:43] <UFO> hatake_kakashi: yes thats true
[07:44] <UFO> sebastian: yes
[07:44] <sebastian> how do you mena
[07:44] <sebastian> hatake
[07:44] <sebastian> that i can open my kubuntu files from windows?
[07:44] <c13> now me for my resolution and hertz, ... why is kdm set to 60 hertz
[07:44] <c13> i mean 75
[07:44] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: you can read/write your ext3 drive/partition under windows. but you need extra drivers
[07:45] <sebastian> extra drivers?
[07:45] <hatake_kakashi> !ext3
[07:45] <ubotu> [ext3]  a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/wrote from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:46] <c13> hatake_kakashi: how could i corrupt?
[07:46] <c13> if he tchek's write write write on propreties of the drive
[07:46] <hatake_kakashi> c13: there is very minimal ntfs support under linux for write, if one is not careful enough, you can corrupt data fairly easily
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> c13: I thought you mean the data on that partition
[07:48] <sniff> hey
[07:48] <c13> that's what i mean't, anyway i'm feeling lucky
[07:48] <UFO> c13: pastebin your xorg.conf
[07:48] <sebastian> hatake_kakashi: by driver you dont mean hardware
[07:48] <c13> UFO: what ya mean
[07:49] <c13> pastebin.
[07:49] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: no, driver usually means a software that talks to the hardware
[07:49] <hatake_kakashi> usually going through the kernel
[07:49] <c13> iv'e ben with kubuntu for 1hrs now :P
[07:49] <UFO> !pastebin
[07:49] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:49] <sebastian> hatake_kakashi: do i have to reboot and go to that site to install the software?
[07:50] <c13> UFO: where is my xorg already
[07:50] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: for windows, generally speaking, yes.. but you may as well do that when you get back on windows anyway
[07:50] <sebastian> hatake_kakashi: is it free?
[07:50] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: yes
[07:50] <sebastian> oh great
[07:50] <c13> ./etc/ or /usr/
[07:50] <sebastian> what a pain in the arse
[07:50] <sebastian> but ah well
[07:50] <UFO> c13: or wait.... it could be done so change the resolution and in that should change the hrz and then select back to your regular resolution... go thru every resolution
[07:51] <sebastian> thankyou
[07:51] <UFO> No problem
[07:51] <hatake_kakashi> sebastian: well thank Microsoft for being generous to FLOSS
[07:51] <hatake_kakashi> no problem
[07:51] <sebastian> have you listened to belle and sebastian from scotland?
[07:51] <hatake_kakashi> nope
[07:51] <UFO> no
[07:51] <sebastian> theyre very groovy, i recomend "fox in the snow" by them, i am listening to it right now
[07:51] <sebastian> from my windows drive
[07:51] <sebastian> :)
[07:51] <hatake_kakashi> mm k
[07:52] <UFO> :)
[07:52] <crimsun> their new album is great
[07:52] <sebastian> yes
[07:52] <sebastian> and its completely different
[07:52] <crimsun> yep, which is cool, too
[07:52] <sebastian> most people i know love it in spite of sounding
[07:52] <sebastian> completely unthem
[07:52] <hatake_kakashi> I'm listening to a stream music via foobar2k and wine
[07:52] <hatake_kakashi> s/stream/streamed
[07:53] <sebastian> hatake/UFO if interested send me an email to solo1mas@hotmail.com and ill reply with an mp3 of the song
[07:53] <sebastian> now im going toi reboot
[07:53] <sebastian> bbs
[07:53] <sniff> can someone offer me any advice for a sound problem that i have please?
[07:54] <sniff> the problem is i have no sound and it's not because the speakers are unplugged
[07:54] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: check if the card is listed under lspci and that there is a module for it and its loaded.. is it PCI or ISA?
[07:55] <sniff> no idea, it is built into my laptop and under windows it uses realtek drivers, so i guess it's a realtek
[07:56] <sniff> the only linux distro it seems to even half work with is suse 10, but then the software volume controls don't work but atleast i get sound
[07:56] <sniff> i really don't know enough about linux to fix it myself
[07:56] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: well, output your lspci to pastebin
[07:56] <sniff> lspci
[07:56] <sniff> right ho
[07:57] <sniff> would you be able to help me if you login to my computer via ssh?
[07:57] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: and also output your lsmod into pastebin as well
[07:57] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: err.. it would be much better if you learned it yourself..
[07:58] <sniff> ok i will try my best
[07:58] <sniff> just how do i get an output of lspci etc?
[07:58] <hatake_kakashi> open up konsole and type 'lspci' without quotes
[07:59] <hatake_kakashi> copy those detail outputted, and open up the browser, goto http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ and paste it in, add your nick, etc, and hit send
[07:59] <sniff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[07:59] <sniff> ah
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> same
[08:00] <c13> UFO: the is no hertz in xorg.conf
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> either way, when you hit send, the url will change, copy and paste the url in here
[08:01] <manveru> c13: you have the specs of your monitor?
[08:02] <manveru> c13: like horizontal-rate, vertical-rate, maximum-resolution...
[08:02] <c13> i think so
[08:02] <c13> i got the book somewhere here...
[08:02] <manveru> and you ran dexconf ?
[08:02] <hatake_kakashi> HorizSync and VertRefresh
[08:03] <manveru> ah, just look it up in the internet - every monitor-spec is out there
[08:03] <c13> i just need the kdm to be like kde at 60hertz
[08:03] <hatake_kakashi> its probably VertRefresh
[08:04] <c13> how can yah change or save a hertz for a kdm
[08:04] <c13> xdm
[08:04] <nlind> hi. i installed kubuntu. then did apt-get install gcc   but now when i try to compile 855resolution i get errors?
[08:04] <nlind> any c or c++ libs i need to install?
[08:04] <hatake_kakashi> c13: nfi, I usually change the settings for Xorg which also changes kdm as well
[08:04] <sebastianus> back
[08:04] <hatake_kakashi> nlind: what sort of errors? if its more than 2 lines for errors, paste it into pastebin
[08:05] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: wb
[08:05] <sebastianus> ok i downloaded the file and now iaam going to install it
[08:05] <c13> hatake_kakashi: in the xorg.conf or from a gui?
[08:05] <sniff> i must confess, right now kubuntu is not installed, after fiddling around with it for 5 days trying to get the sound to work i gave up. I will reinstall it again right now
[08:06] <hatake_kakashi> c13: the xorg.conf file and then I reset X via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace  (Do not do that, you will lose data if you have kept any open)
[08:06] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: wait..
[08:06] <sebastianus> hatake_kakashi: do i enable large file feature_
[08:06] <sniff> mm?
[08:06] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: you still haven't pasted the url for pastebin for those two output
[08:06] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: what do you mean?
[08:06] <sebastianus> it says the following
[08:07] <nlind> hatake_kakashi, i pasted in #pastebin
[08:07] <sebastianus> if you disable the large file feature you wn't be able to store files larger than 4GB
[08:07] <hatake_kakashi> nlind: lol, I'm not there
[08:07] <sniff> yes,.... i don't have kubuntu installed at the moment, so i will reinstall then paste the output of those commands, I hope you will still be around a bit later
[08:07] <hatake_kakashi> nlind: you are supposed to paste the output onto the site :)
[08:07] <nlind> lol
[08:07] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I might be, but I might have dinner later
[08:08] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: wait.. this is for?
[08:08] <sebastianus> if you enable the large file feature the very first storing of a file larger than 4GB will cause old linux kernels to go read mode
[08:08] <sniff> mmmm i can hurry.... should be less than an hour to get it installed.... do you think you maybe around then?
[08:08] <sebastianus> read only*
[08:08] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: maybe
[08:08] <sniff> alright
[08:08] <sebastianus> if such a volume is the root volume of linux it will become unoperable
[08:08] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: I'm still confused, is this for a certain type of fs?
[08:08] <sniff> i'll take my chances ;)
[08:09] <sebastianus> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[08:09] <sebastianus> for that
[08:09] <nlind> k its there
[08:09] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I'm sure if I'm not around, there will be someone that can help
[08:09] <sniff> alright, well atleast i can post the outputs of these two files in the meantime
[08:09] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: ahh that umm, hang on..
[08:09] <sebastianus> Coffee is a drink, usually hot, prepared from the roasted seeds of the coffee plant
[08:10] <c13> the problem is that i need to change the kdm's log on manager hertz.
[08:10] <sniff> i gotta wait 5 mins for edubuntu to finish d/loading then I'll be right on the case
[08:10] <sebastianus> here in costa rica coffee is the main product
[08:10] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: that's only if you want to put dvd sized images onto your linux partition
[08:10] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: heh
[08:10] <sebastianus> why would i want that_
[08:11] <sebastianus> i dont' have a dvd player
[08:11] <sebastianus> and i have a 10 GB drive
[08:11] <sebastianus> i wont be getting any files larger than 2gb anyway
[08:11] <sebastianus> disable then
[08:11] <sebastianus> just a question though
[08:11] <sebastianus> it says
[08:11] <sebastianus> ext2
[08:11] <sebastianus> not ext3
[08:11] <sebastianus> this is normal right_
[08:12] <sebastianus> ?
[08:13] <hatake_kakashi> yes
[08:13] <sebastianus> gre
[08:13] <hatake_kakashi> ext3 is just ext2 with journaling
[08:14] <c13> so anyway to change the hertz, .... of a login screen?
[08:15] <sebastianus> ok i just reached an important point
[08:15] <hatake_kakashi> c13: nfi
[08:16] <sniff> oh one other thing... is it just me or is firefox slow in ubuntu/kubuntu? I'm sure it's more prompt in windows
[08:16] <c13> stands for no fudged idea
[08:16] <c13> right
[08:16] <brydenn> ok i need some help with kbfx
[08:16] <brydenn> ./configure --prefix=/usr isnt working for me for some crazy reason
[08:16] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: its a bit slow on mine but *shrug* because its using gtk libs
[08:16] <hatake_kakashi> c13: yeah
[08:16] <brydenn> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:16] <brydenn> keeps saying that
[08:16] <sebastianus> "Now you have to the drive letters of your volumes with the ext2 file system, note you may resize the whole dialogue for better working" " a new IFS drive has been installed in the control panel which allows mainting drive letters similar to this dialogue box" and then theres a list with
[08:16] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: sh ./configure
[08:16] <sebastianus> C
[08:17] <brydenn> i have to type sh first before .configure
[08:17] <sebastianus> and theres a thing where several letters are set for me to pick one
[08:17] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: basically
[08:17] <sebastianus> like H:// etc
[08:18] <brydenn> still gave me the same sorta error
[08:18] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: I assume that is to make ext2/3 mount to specific window's drive letter
[08:18] <sebastianus> ok
[08:18] <sebastianus> W then
[08:18] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: could it be just a config file instead of configure?
[08:18] <sniff> how do i make usb drives auto mount, i always get access errors?
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> !usb
[08:19] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> !mount
[08:19] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> blah
[08:19] <brydenn> maybe hatake_kakashi  i dont know
[08:19] <sebastianus> ok i just finished
[08:19] <brydenn> i'm new to this
[08:19] <sebastianus> let me go check in my computer
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: what errors?
[08:20] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: ok what files are in that directory? paste it onto pastebin if you still do not understand
[08:20] <sniff> but... can kubuntu do it autmatically? Like in suse you plug in flashdrive it appears. You unplug it it disappears. Dead easy. Do i really need to mess around with fstab?
[08:20] <sebastianus> hatake_kakashi: so i can read and write on the linux partition from windows now that ive installed this?
[08:20] <sebastianus> is it safe to read and write on it_
[08:20] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: generally no, I don't see why you got an error, unless if its unsupported or something
[08:20] <sniff> error: """An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1:"""
[08:20] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: basically from the last time I checked, read the manual if you have any concerns
[08:21] <sniff> "The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist."
[08:21] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: dmesg| tail
[08:21] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: ahh I know
[08:21] <sniff> always in kubuntu
[08:21] <sebastianus> is that a yes?
[08:21] <brydenn> hatake_kakashi: there is a configure.in, configure.in.in and a config.h.in in the kbfx-0.4.8.2 directory
[08:21] <sebastianus> i CAn certainly read and write onto the W/ext3 from windows?
[08:21] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: type in the url /media/sdb1
[08:21] <sniff> i can fix it if I change the fstab but that seems really gay for something that should be hot pluggable
[08:21] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: I think so, but read the manual just to be sure
[08:22] <sniff> "The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist."
[08:22] <sebastianus> ok
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: you don't need to add it into fstab, I think its probably a minor thing, just change it so that its /media/sdb1 from konqueror's url bar
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: hmm
[08:22] <sniff> yeah i did
[08:22] <sniff> a friend told me to install "usbmount"
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: ok, try chmodding to 700 for those configure files
[08:23] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: before you do that, you need to check to see if you have execute permission bits set on for those files
[08:23] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: hmm
[08:24] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I don't have that and my iPod works when I plug it into my computer.. unless you are using dapper I presume?
[08:24] <sniff> so what happens with you on a fresh install of kubuntu and you plug in a usb flash device?
[08:24] <sniff> no breezy 5.1
[08:24] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: you should get a similar sort of dialogue box from windows, about new media detected, and asks you what you want to do
[08:24] <sniff> i got enough problems with this "stable" release let alone try any cowboy stuff with unstable branches
[08:25] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: odd
[08:25] <sniff> yeah so i tell windows to open it, no problem. Just gives me an error
[08:25] <sniff> that is if I am running kubuntu as a VM or as a proper install so it just can't be my hardware
[08:26] <hatake_kakashi> !info usbmount
[08:26] <ubotu> usbmount: (automatically mount and unmount USB mass storage devices), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.0.12 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 116 kB
[08:26] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[08:26] <sniff> yeah i said i already have it installed and it made no difference
[08:27] <hatake_kakashi>  sniff ok do dmesg| tail and paste that onto pastebin
[08:27] <nlind> hatake_kakashi, check out #pastebin
[08:27] <bert_> Is there any need to defrag the hard drive in Linux, and if so what Linux defragers are available?
[08:28] <hatake_kakashi> !info libglib2.0-dev
[08:28] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: (Development files for the GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 482 kB, Installed size: 1908 kB
[08:28] <hatake_kakashi> nlind: I noticed
[08:29] <sniff> i pasted
[08:29] <sniff> but how do i get the url for it?
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: the url on the address bar should be changed, copy and paste that onto here
[08:30] <sniff> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/550783
[08:30] <sniff> stupid me!
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: you're only human
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> !apt-key
[08:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[08:31] <sniff> :D sometimes i fall a little below par though, i'm willing to admit
[08:31] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: to err is human :)
[08:31] <sniff> i don't see any probs with my pastebin??
[08:33] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: hang on
[08:34] <hara__> hello. any crossover experts available here?
[08:34] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: doesn't seem like there is an error.. but what happens if you type /media/sdb1 into konqueror?
[08:35] <sniff> "The file or folder file:///media/sdb1 does not exist."
[08:35] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: ok check under the mount
[08:35] <sniff> do what?
[08:36] <sebastianus> hatake_kakashi: while on kubuntu can i copy and paste from the ntfs partition to burn with kb3?
[08:36] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: check to see if the device is mounted.. I assume not.. if not, then you may need to paste more information from dmesg onto pastebin.. probably dmesg| tail -10
[08:36] <hatake_kakashi> sebastianus: I assume so, yes, but I never burned on linux yet
[08:36] <sniff> not mounted
[08:37] <sebastianus> i have
[08:37] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: ok well, dmesg| tail -10 and paste it onto the pastebin
[08:38] <sniff> ok this is it http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/550792
[08:39] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: blah.. not enough.. ok do dmesg| tail -20
[08:39] <sniff> lol
[08:40] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: the output was not much different from the previous one
[08:41] <sniff> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/550793
[08:41] <sniff> this one is differenet and shorter, i don't understand why
[08:42] <hatake_kakashi> no, its longer
[08:43] <sniff> mmok
[08:43] <c13> where can i change the kdm gdm and all that stuff like in ubuntu
[08:43] <hatake_kakashi> I can see a bit of a problem with it.. wait.. when did you exactly install that usbmount? after you inserted that usb mass storage device or before?
[08:44] <sniff> well i had this problem all the time. Then i installed usbmount and tried plugging my device in several times and got the same error messages
[08:44] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[08:44] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: ok.. try this.. mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[08:45] <sniff> like i said before if I manually create mount points and edit fstab I can get it working, just seems annoying when eveyone else doesn't have to
[08:45] <c13> hatake_kakashi: any idea from where i can change boot loader... gdm images.... chnage for gdm xdm... or what ever like in ubuntu
[08:46] <sniff> sniff@kubuntu:~$ mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[08:46] <sniff> mount: only root can do that
[08:46] <sniff> sudo?
[08:46] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: well I'm not too sure exactly how to solve it.. probably because there was an initial error to start off which kinda affected the outcome I assume
[08:46] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: yes
[08:47] <hatake_kakashi> c13: change bootloader?
[08:47] <sebastianus> im off for now
[08:47] <c13> abd all the reste
[08:47] <sniff> i need a filesystem type??
[08:47] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: no, the fs should already be defined as auto
[08:47] <hatake_kakashi> unless if that fails to work
[08:48] <c13> change xdm ... for gdm example... for kdm etc...
[08:48] <sniff> sniff@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[08:48] <sniff> Password:
[08:48] <sniff> mount: you must specify the filesystem t
[08:48] <hatake_kakashi> c13: not quite sure
[08:48] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: hmm.. try -t vfat instead of -t auto
[08:49] <sniff> sniff@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[08:49] <sniff> mount: mount point /mnt/sdb1 does not exist
[08:50] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb1
[08:50] <hatake_kakashi> and then try that other command again
[08:50] <sniff> ok how do i find it?
[08:51] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: find what?
[08:52] <sniff> ok if i navigate to /mnt/sdb1 i can see the contents, but it doesn't appear under STORAGE MEDIA on konqueror
[08:52] <c13> hatake_kakashi: i mean all the splash theme stuff and kdm stuff , and this and that have any idea?
[08:52] <sniff> or give me an icon on the desktop
[08:52] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: yes because that leads to /media.. you can if you want, mount it to /media/sdb1 if need be
[08:53] <hatake_kakashi> c13: kcontrol?
[08:53] <sniff> so how do i do this eveytime my somputer restarts?
[08:53] <c13> hatake_kakashi:  where is
[08:53] <sniff> change my fstab right
[08:53] <sniff> i got it
[08:54] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I'm sure there has to be an automount program that can help you with that
[08:54] <sniff> but don't you already have that?
[08:54] <hatake_kakashi> c13: Alt+F2 and then type 'kcontrol' without the quotes
[08:54] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I do, but I don't see why you don't
[08:54] <sniff> i mean did you edit your fstab to get you ipod accessible?
[08:55] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: actually no.. I don't have automount. but I'm sure you are missing something
[08:55] <sniff> well i have installed in vm and in real machine using the dvd setup
[08:55] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: no, all I had to do was plug my iPod in and it works.. mind you, I did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy
[08:56] <sniff> mmm
[08:56] <sniff> how well did the upgrade go... any probs?
[08:56] <sniff> i'm not looking forward to the upgrade in april
[08:57] <hatake_kakashi> not that great.. had a few minor problems.. one was that I cannot go into failsafe mode anymore, so if I were to do another dist-upgrade I have to do it from tty console
[08:57] <sniff> why so many probs, i don't even know what tty console or failsafe is
[08:57] <sniff> i hope my system doesn't get screwed then
[08:58] <sniff> if i still run breezy but let it do all it#s auto updates will i need to do an upgrade?
[08:58] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: failsafe is a mode within Xorg that gives you console whilst in GUI mode, it allows you to safetly do things like major upgrades without having to do it into one of those Ctrl+Alt+Fx button for a tty
[08:59] <sniff> how do i access failsafe? and then what do i do to upgrade the system?
[08:59] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I wouldn't recommend auto-upgrade of its own, not when theres an app floating around
[08:59] <sniff> an app floating around?
[08:59] <sniff> so what;s the best thing for me to do come april and dapper drake?
[09:00] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: you have to logout of kde but not restart computer, etc, and when you get into login screen there is a button called session, click on it and you get a choice. Choose failsafe and you basically get a tty like window on X
[09:00] <B1zz> what can I do to get wma support in k3b?
[09:00] <sniff> ah i understand
[09:01] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: there is this autoupdate program or something which forces update even though if things don't work, etc.. thus causing havoc, I would recommend using adept, to update
[09:01] <hatake_kakashi> !wma
[09:01] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:02] <sniff> so what do i do in adept?
[09:02] <sniff> click on FULL UPGRADE?
[09:02] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: if its available, yes
[09:02] <sniff> and this will take me to dapper?
[09:02] <sniff> can i get the dapper dvd and upgrade using this and is this a good idea?
[09:03] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: well, I assume you did not edit sources.list, so you cannot get dapper and dapper is still in building
[09:03] <sniff> i mean in april
[09:04] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: if you want to yes, but you may not want to if you have the computer configured in your way, eg, you compiled certain programs that are not available, you got packages which are not maintained, and doesn't have much support, etc
[09:04] <sniff> i understand so if this is the situation what is the best thing for me to do?
[09:04] <sniff> don't upgrade at all?
[09:05] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: no no.. what I mean is, if you want specific things or you don't want to download a whole image file just to install it, I would suggest upgrade
[09:05] <hatake_kakashi> and plus reinstalling requires reconfiguring, etc
[09:06] <UFO> off the topic but its great to watch my child 2years to watch cartoons :D
[09:06] <UFO> boy
[09:06] <sniff> i will have my system configured and installed the way i want it, I want to avoid having to reconfigure and reinstall everything. What is the best way for me to update my system?
[09:06] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: through adept full upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:06] <sniff> alright
[09:07] <hatake_kakashi> its better to do that through failsafe and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <sniff> what about upgrade with dvd, i think it gives you the option to upgrade
[09:07] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: you're not going to tell me you are going to upgrade whilst you are on livedvd?
[09:08] <sniff> no
[09:08] <sniff> but can't
[09:08] <sniff> um
[09:08] <sniff> damn i dunno what i mean
[09:08] <sniff> ah i can burn the dvd and tell adept to use it as the only source and do the upgrade like this
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: possibly, but I don't know, I never tried it
[09:09] <sniff> hey another question! How can i use chinese characters, english and russian on the same file system?
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> and why would you want to download more data than when you don't need to?
[09:10] <sniff> i have many files named using the three languages
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: depends on which fs, on most fs, it can support utf8
[09:10] <sniff> no you're right
[09:10] <sniff> but utf8 doesn't support chinese
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> they do
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> I think they should anyway
[09:10] <sniff> then chinese gb2132 don't support russian
[09:10] <sniff> no utf8 not for chinese
[09:10] <sniff> just european languages
[09:11] <sniff> windows can do it so i assume kubuntu can do it too
[09:12] <hatake_kakashi> probably you need utf-16 or higher
[09:12] <sniff> i see
[09:13] <hatake_kakashi> Japanese filenames are viewable via utf8 on linux.. those files are on ntfs
[09:16] <brydenn> anyone in here know much about kbfx?
[09:17] <brydenn> i have it all installed, etc. Having trouble with the buttons though
[09:17] <brydenn> the button is only partly shown
[09:17] <brydenn> kinda cuts it off
[09:17] <brydenn> whats up with that?
[09:18] <icha_imoet> j
[09:18] <meta> hi all
[09:19] <meta> i have a problem about adding new users.
[09:19] <icha_imoet> hii
[09:19] <meta> i'm added a second user
[09:19] <meta> "apu"
[09:19] <meta> and the apu account have some errors and can't login to su
[09:20] <meta> (for example the arts sund server warns when log in, it said : can't load because perm. denied))
[09:20] <meta> so anybody please help me.
[09:21] <icha_imoet> sorry i can't help u
[09:21] <meta> :((
[09:24] <meta> i'm trying..
[09:26] <icha_imoet> hello
[09:28] <meta> re
[09:28] <meta> its shit.
[09:29] <meta> I'm cant believe it...
[09:29] <meta> i can't add a simple user who can do anything.
[09:30] <meta> it's lol.
[09:33] <icha_imoet> ujghih
[09:35] <icha_imoet> ytutiyuo
[09:35] <icha_imoet> 57u568976
[09:38] <weedar> I see that scummvm has reached version 0.8.2, but the version available in universe is 0.7.1, how would I help the package maintainer upgrade the package?
[09:40] <_sebastian> how do i get k3b to burn mp3s into audio files?
[09:41] <_sebastian> it keeps saying unsuported format
[09:41] <arrinmurr> _sebastian: install k3b-mp3
[09:41] <B1zz> what about wma?
[09:42] <_sebastian> arrinmurr: how?
[09:42] <_sebastian> adept?
[09:42] <arrinmurr> _sebastian: yeah
[09:42] <_sebastian> do i open adept?
[09:42] <_sebastian> ok im there now what
[09:43] <robotgeek> !adept
[09:43] <ubotu> it has been said that adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:43] <_sebastian> no i mean
[09:43] <_sebastian> how do i get k3b mp3
[09:43] <B1zz> type that in in adept
[09:43] <B1zz> it should come up
[09:44] <_sebastian> ok found it
[09:44] <_sebastian> clicked on install package
[09:45] <B1zz> yeah
[09:46] <_sebastian> now what?
[09:46] <_sebastian> i minmized for a moment and the install option went away and now it only says keep package
[09:46] <B1zz> yeah its installed
[09:46] <B1zz> now go to your K menu and multimedia
[09:46] <B1zz> and it should be there
[09:47] <_sebastian> it only says k3b
[09:47] <_sebastian> not k3b mp3
[09:47] <arrinmurr> _sebastian: k3b-mp3 just adds the mp3 functionality to k3b
[09:48] <_sebastian> oh ok let me try it
[09:48] <_sebastian> again
[09:48] <_sebastian> it says unsuported format
[09:48] <_sebastian> what did i do wrong?
[09:48] <B1zz> anyone know how to add wma support for k3b? someone gave me a link but not much info there
[09:48] <arrinmurr> _sebastian: did you restart k3b after installing k3b-mp3?
[09:49] <_sebastian> yes
[09:49] <_sebastian> it was closed at the time
[09:49] <g4nja> hi
[09:49] <_sebastian> i dragged and dropped
[09:49] <_sebastian> and it says
[09:49] <_sebastian> unsuported format
[09:49] <_sebastian> wait
[09:49] <_sebastian> did i ahve to save the changes on adept
[09:49] <_sebastian> and then restart k3b?
[09:51] <_sebastian> again
[09:51] <_sebastian> it says unsuported format
[09:51] <_sebastian> what did ido wrong
[09:52] <arrinmurr> _sebastian: close adept, press alt+f2, type "konsole", and in there type "sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3"
[09:55] <_sebastian> ok it worked
[09:55] <_sebastian> thanks
[09:55] <_sebastian> now
[09:56] <_sebastian> it will burn as audio right?
[09:56] <_sebastian> not as an mp3
[09:56] <_sebastian> i picked audio project
[09:56] <_sebastian> i want it to go from mp3 to audio
[09:56] <arrinmurr> _sebastian: if you create and audio cd project and throw mp3 files there, then yes
[09:58] <_sebastian> gre'
[09:59] <_sebastian> i dont have to close any other programs while i burn on k3b right?
[10:00] <arrinmurr> _sebastian: why should you? :)
[10:01] <_sebastian> thats the way i am used to on windows with nero
[10:03] <arrinmurr> heh, well, it's not maybe wise to do something that eats up all your resources while burning, but other than that there shouldn't be problems
[10:03] <weedar> Are there any "howtos" on becoming package maintaner and how to do the stuff that maintaners do?
[10:03] <_sebastian> thanks
[10:03] <_sebastian> i gotta dahs off
[10:22] <HawkStreet> does kubuntu have xen support?
[10:22] <apu> !firefox1.5
[10:22] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:24] <apu> !thunderbird1.5
[10:24] <ubotu> hmm... thunderbird1.5 is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[10:34] <oddie> so this whole miltple sounds at once thing will never be fixed?
[10:40] <marseillai> helle everybody
[10:40] <marseillai> hello everybody
[10:40] <oddie> hello
[10:41] <marseillai> it's so early so i think i will not distrub you too much! :)
[10:41] <marseillai> i'm french
[10:41] <marseillai> soory for my poor english
[10:41] <Hobbsee> early?
[10:41] <Hobbsee> nah...
[10:41] <marseillai> lol
[10:42] <marseillai> i got a question :
[10:42] <marseillai> where can i find some information about avahi, and how to use it in kubuntu, and what i can do with it ?
[10:43] <marseillai> i'm looking for this since two days and i've don't find anything!
[10:43] <_tac> alguien habla espaol??
[10:43] <arrinmurr> !es
[10:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:44] <_tac> gracias!
[10:45] <HawkStreet> does kubuntu have xen support?
[10:48] <divansantana> I don't believe it does
[10:53] <weedar> How can I alter a package depending on libflac6 to also accepting libflac7 (or higher)?
[10:54] <Hobbsee_away> weedar: modify debian/control and rebuild it
[10:54] <Hobbsee_away> ie, get the source first
[10:55] <weedar> Hobbsee_away, I've unpacked the .deb but I am unsure how to alter the dependency to work the way I want it
[10:55] <weedar> Hobbsee_away, for example: If I changed "libflac6" to "libflac6 | libflac7" that would work, but only until libflac8 was released, right?
[10:56] <Hobbsee_away> you'd need to (=<liblfac6) or something - dont remember how they do the versions of things
[11:02] <HawkStreet> what does "four eleven" mean as a police code?
[11:06] <aeon17x> Here what's happening?
[11:07] <bert_> nothing
[11:25] <weedar> I'm having trouble installing libsdl1.2-dev, adept says it'll break and apt-get says it needs libartsc0-dev
[11:27] <weedar> and libartsc0-dev complains "libartsc0-dev: Depends: libartsc0 (= 1.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 1.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1 is to be installed"
[11:32] <Ilokaasu> any idea why do i have to reboot my adsl connection in every 10-20minutes...webpages and messenger etc stop working but irc stays online...
[11:33] <Ilokaasu> this command always works...until next crash    sudo su -c 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0'
[11:37] <weedar> Ilokaasu, could it be your ISP's DNS-servers not working as they should?
[11:38] <Ilokaasu> well its possible
[11:38] <Ilokaasu> tbh knowing my isp, that is not a miracle :P
[11:39] <weedar> I just seem to recall a similar problem myself happening periodcally, in which case I just had to specify to use the secondary DNS and everything worked
[11:39] <weedar> Mind you the problem only existed for a few days or so
[11:57] <stratovarius> hi all
[11:57] <stratovarius> does someboy know how to save and play flash animations fromn the web?
[12:00] <nol13> penis
[12:00] <stratovarius> nobody can help me?
[12:00] <nol13> do you want to help your penis?
[12:00] <ubijtsa> stratovarius: check the html for a link to the swf
[12:00] <ubijtsa> stratovarius: then wget it
[12:01] <ubijtsa> nol13: don't be offensive
[12:01] <nol13> my bad
[12:01] <Hobbsee> !coc
[12:01] <ubotu> somebody said coc was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:02] <stratovarius> ubijtsa, its a particular flash animation. see it at this link (wait its end) http://www.fmboschetto.it/didattica/buchi_neri/flash/bucner85.htm
[12:03] <ubijtsa> you probably want to wget http://www.fmboschetto.it/didattica/buchi_neri/flash/blackho_wo.swf
[12:03] <ubijtsa> at a guess, have not tried it myself
[12:05] <nol13> so anyway, i'm having problems writing cd's all of a sudden, im pretty sure neither cdrecord nor cdrdao is working, was getting some dcopserver error, and a bunch of other wierd errors, so can anyone help find my puppy, ive looked all over and i cant find the bastard?
[12:07] <Hobbsee> that dcopserver isnt running?
[12:07] <nol13> ya
[12:08] <Hobbsee> rm *.DCOP, .ICE*, .Xauthority, and some other file
[12:09] <sniff> hey hatake
[12:11] <nol13> then it wouldnt even load the desktop, i reinstalled through the terminal mad stuff, (some IO error with ICE or something, reinstalled anything that i thought might be related, then my desktop loads again but cd still wont burn, erassed all the .ice .xauthority .dcop, and changed the permissions of some directory, that fixed somr stuff i think but now im getting some other errors
[12:11] <nol13> exit code one in k3b
[12:13] <sniff> hey peeps
[12:14] <nol13> log doesnt say much else, arson says either cd isnt blank or power callibration failed use --force to solve this, but --force doesnt help
[12:15] <sniff> i was on here looking for some help with my sound system not working, I was asked to post the output of lsmod and lspci to pastebin. Which I've now done, is there anyone who would be able to have a look at them to see what the problem is please?
[12:16] <nol13> sniff, have you tried kicking your speakers?
[12:17] <sniff> yeah and you know what I even plugged them in
[12:17] <nol13> kick them harder
[12:17] <sniff> no, my foot hurts
[12:17] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ping for the sound issue?
[12:17] <Hobbsee> sniff: see crimsun for help with sound, if he's around
[12:18] <sniff> ok thankyou
[12:18] <sniff> no he's not at the mo though
[12:18] <nol13> oh, try installing a real os then
[12:18] <sniff> kubuntu is not real?
[12:18] <sniff> what is it?? toilet paper?
[12:19] <nol13> more like a paper towel
[12:19] <sniff> and what would you consider to be a "real os"?
[12:20] <nol13> edubuntu
[12:20] <sniff> mmm it's lovely
[12:20] <sniff> i have that too
[12:21] <Hobbsee> nol13: the other folder you want to remove is /tmp/.ICE-unix
[12:21] <Hobbsee> then it should work
[12:23] <nol13> thx, ill give  it a try
[12:26] <nol13> ok comps bbeing stupid, ill be back
[12:28] <DjDarkPingvin> hy ,how can i add a run command button to the panel ,like the one in the k menu?
[12:32] <_sniff> can you use alacarte to do that?
[12:33] <Hobbsee> DjDarkPingvin: add applet, run command
[12:33] <DjDarkPingvin> no Hobbsee i dont want the applet ,it ocupys too much space ,i want the run command button from the k menu
[12:34] <Hobbsee> um
[12:34] <nol13> nope cd burn still dont work, im
[12:35] <DjDarkPingvin> Hobbsee: try adding the applet and you`ll se what i mean
[12:35] <Hobbsee> ah, i see
[12:35] <nol13> i been trying ro save a reinstall as up to this point i was extreemly happy with breezy, and had it all setup and stuff
[12:35] <nol13> oh well though
[12:35] <_sniff> get a real os
[12:36] <nol13> good idea
[12:36] <_sniff> i recommend wubuntu
[12:37] <_sniff> sorry, i mean Rubuntu
[12:37] <nol13> fuckit, back to debian and their 58 install cd,s
[12:37] <_sniff> it's the real ubuntu
[12:37] <_sniff> is that cos of all the sarge crap?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> nol13: language
[12:39] <nol13> i was running sarge unstable, then all of a sudden my internet weent out and i couldnt get it back up no matter what i did, now im pretty sure i could have got it working by turning my roputer off and on and then doing an ifdown, ifup, as that seems to work in ubuntu
[12:40] <Distro^Junkie> anyone no why I keep getting a non ubuntu cd error ?
[12:40] <Distro^Junkie> burned the iso twice
[12:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> Distro^Junkie: where do you get the error?
[12:41] <nol13> but i did really really like breezy, more than any other distro, it seems like all the bugs i had with hoary were fixed, until now when it all went pooers
[12:41] <apu> how can i install the original windows fonts?
[12:42] <apu> is there a package or sg anywhere?
[12:42] <apu> !fonts
[12:42] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[12:42] <apu> hmm
[12:42] <ubijtsa> apu: msttcorefonts iirc
[12:42] <apu> iirc?
[12:42] <nol13> double click on fonts.exe
[12:42] <apu> wha tis irrc?
[12:42] <ubijtsa> If I Remember Correctly
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> nol13: what sort of problems?
[12:42] <Distro^Junkie> Kamping_Kaiser whe it tries to find cdrom
[12:43] <Distro^Junkie> when*
[12:43] <apu> oh yes
[12:43] <apu> sorry i'm hugnarian
[12:43] <apu> but thank you
[12:43] <ubijtsa> apu: no worries, I am swedish :)
[12:43] <apu> you remember correctly:) i'm during the download
[12:43] <apu> :DD
[12:43] <Distro^Junkie> installing it from a usb dvd drive
[12:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> Distro^Junkie: booting? installing packages? what?
[12:44] <visik7> artsd crash after some hours of unused pc
[12:44] <visik7> kde351
[12:45] <Distro^Junkie> installing packages
[12:45] <nol13> well first cd's wouldnt burn, then i reebooted and the desktop wouldnt load, then i fixed some stuff and the desktop loads but cds wont burn, maybe i had a bad apt source that meesed me up or something i dunno
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Distro^Junkie: are you trying to use an ubuntu cd on Kubuntu?
[12:46] <Distro^Junkie> nope its the dvd iso
[12:46] <apu> ql, it's wrk
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. did you instlal off it?
[12:47] <Distro^Junkie> that's what I'm trying to do
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah
[12:47] <Distro^Junkie> right after selecting off language it gives me the error
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you put it in, start the install, then it says no cd/dvd found?
[12:47] <Distro^Junkie> off = of
[12:47] <Distro^Junkie> yep
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. i hate that error.
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't know how to fix it (i always just throw the drive across the room
[12:48] <nol13> errors suck
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> )
[12:48] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[12:50] <nol13> boys have penises and girls have buginas
[12:51] <ubijtsa> where's an op when you need'em...
[12:51] <nol13> noooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:51] <ubijtsa> nol13: then shape up and drop the foul language..
[12:52] <nol13> so ubijsa; whats your sign baby
[12:52] <ubijtsa> sign... in what sense
[12:52] <nol13> you know, like zodiac and stuff
[12:53] <ubijtsa> capricorn - but that hardly matters relating to #kubuntu
[12:53] <nol13> i wouldnt be so sure
[12:53] <nol13> thats a nice sign
[12:54] <Hobbsee> nol13: do you need a kickban?
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. please
[12:54] <nol13> no, ill bbe good
[12:54] <robotgeek> i can't sleep, dammit
[12:54] <nol13> im bored of you ppl anyway
[12:54] <Hobbsee> ban him so he doesnt come back?
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[12:55] <Hobbsee> i would have earlier, except that i wasnt watching sorry..
[12:55] <ubijtsa> Hobbsee: I was thinking 30 mins
[12:55] <ubijtsa> enough to make him/her cool down
[12:56] <Hobbsee> i dont think it's possible to only set a ban for a certain time
[12:56] <ubijtsa> shame.. we'd have to set an eggtimer then
[12:56] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: if you use irssi, the kickban times out
[12:56] <Hobbsee> ah
[12:57] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[12:57] <hatake_kakashi> irssi > * imo :)
[12:57] <Hobbsee> ubijtsa: the command you want, to alert ops, is !kops
[12:57] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: it's "knockout" in irssi
[12:57] <Hobbsee> ah right
[12:57] <ubijtsa> Hobbsee: I'll remember that
[12:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:58] <robotgeek> Kamping_Kaiser: you cant forget kops, cmon!
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> robotgeek: try me ;0
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell Kamping_Kaiser about kops
[12:58] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: you have ops here too?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> oh, you were asleep
[12:59] <robotgeek> yeah, i was trying to fall asleep
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[12:59] <Hobbsee> lol...trying
[01:00] <Hobbsee> hehe @ distro^junkie's part message
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[01:01] <robotgeek> maybe that's a irssi signature pulled from @bash quote :)
[01:01] <robotgeek> ubijtsa: unfortunately, i have to have them on
[01:02] <ubijtsa> robotgeek: 'have to' - why?
[01:02] <Hobbsee> ubijtsa: [23:00]  <-- Distro^Junkie has left this server ("When I Find Peer, Im Gonna Reset HIS Connection :P~").
[01:02] <robotgeek> ubijtsa: heh, that's a good reason. plus i like to keep track of botnets
[01:03] <ubijtsa> Hobbsee: *lol*
[01:03] <_adrian> i have a problem
[01:03] <VincentMX> hi
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi you 2
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> plays: The Offspring - Come Out And Play, track length 3:17
[01:03] <ubijtsa> robotgeek: good reason - I think.. :)
[01:03] <_adrian> i was screwing around with KDE options on windows
[01:03] <Hobbsee> hi _adrian - what's your problem?
[01:03] <_adrian> Hi :-)
[01:03] <_adrian> and i chose the option that a window IS the desktop when opened
[01:03] <robotgeek> Kamping_Kaiser: is that some kind of script?
[01:03] <_adrian> i chose the konsole
[01:04] <_adrian> now, i can't reset it
[01:04] <_adrian> i can't rightclick the titlebar because there isn't one :s
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> robotgeek: the include? yeh. gaim plugin
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was wondering if it would crash me like last time
[01:05] <_adrian> anyone know a trick for that?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> alt+c to get to the menu?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> maybe nto
[01:05] <_adrian> it's a konsole :(
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> *waggles finger at you* whatever you did
[01:05] <_adrian> it just terminates the current app
[01:06] <_adrian> i can't close it either
[01:06] <_adrian> daamn
[01:06] <_adrian> need to go
[01:06] <Hobbsee> oh crud
[01:06] <_adrian> i'll be back later
[01:06] <ubijtsa> _adrian: ^D don't work?
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[01:08] <Hobbsee> oh crud...
[01:08] <Hobbsee> i tried it...wonder how to get it back
[01:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[01:08] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: good job :)
[01:08] <Hobbsee> very!
[01:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> mv ~/.KDE ~/.KDE.bac
[01:08] <robotgeek> alt + f2 open another konsole?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> ah
[01:09] <xored> how can i "burn" the playlist of amarok ( possible imported in k3b ) to an usb stick easily ?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> well, i wont do that again!
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: fixed?
[01:09] <robotgeek> heh
[01:10] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, reopening konsole fixed it
[01:10] <Tm_T> xored: drag'n'drop ?
[01:10] <Tm_T> in Konqueror
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: cool
[01:11] <xored> Tm_T: but i need to do this with the files of the playlist easyl ?
[01:11] <xored> i mean iam not going to pick every file out in the konqueror and then d`n`d it on the usb stick ?
[01:11] <Tm_T> xored: afaik you can drag'n'drop in amaroK or from amaroK
[01:11] <xored> Tm_T: ah, ok
[01:15] <kannix> hi
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> h
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> i
[01:31] <kannix> kann mir jemand sagen wie das packet in adept fr die qt devs heit?
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> !de
[01:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:32] <kannix> oh sry
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> qt dev libs?
[01:33] <kannix> i'am searching the name of the qt dev package because i cant find it in adept...
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure.qt3-apps-dev - Qt3 Developer applications development files?
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> kgoetz@Rommel:~$ apt-cache search qt |grep dev
[01:33] <robotgeek> kde-devel maybe?
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ( i think that's a hint)
[01:35] <kannix> ok teh qt package was the qt3-apps-dev :-)
[01:35] <Hobbsee> yeah, you want all of kde-devel
[01:35] <Hobbsee> it's a metapackage of all of it
[01:36] <vijay> hi, by changing "/etc/X11/default-display-manger" file to gdm, will gdm become my default??
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpkg
[01:37] <robotgeek> morning Tonio_
[01:38] <kannix> Hobbsee; thx ill install the kde-devel package too...
[01:40] <Tonio_> hi robotgeek
[01:42] <`Nomad_Away> !azureus
[01:42] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[01:49] <dutch> I got a question...how come I keep getting a cookie request from fridge.ubuntu.com ??
[01:50] <dutch> every 15 minutes while on-line, I get a cookie
[01:50] <dutch> beginning to piss me off :(
[01:53] <_adrian> damn
[01:53] <_adrian> Hobbsee: , how did you do it?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> _adrian: open another instance of konsole, menu is there again
[01:53] <_adrian> ehm
[01:54] <_adrian> doesn't work for me
[01:54] <Hobbsee> otherwise, edit the config file, i guess - using nano :P
[01:54] <Hobbsee> or try restarting x
[01:54] <_adrian> also
[01:54] <_adrian> i can only close it with xkill
[01:55] <_adrian> and when i try ALT-F2 'konsole' it reopens like a desktop
[01:55] <_adrian> aargh
[01:59] <adrian> restarting X didn't help :(
[02:00] <Hobbsee> hmm
[02:01] <adrian> wait
[02:01] <adrian> i think i got it!
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> :O
[02:01] <adrian> WOOHOO
[02:01] <adrian> solved!!
[02:01] <adrian> i just did the same thing on another window
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> *passes around drdinks*
[02:01] <adrian> and you  can see a list of all special 'behaviours' for certain apps
[02:01] <adrian> just delete the Konsole entry and you're good :D
[02:02] <adrian> i'm so happy!
[02:02] <adrian> okay
[02:02] <adrian> now my original goal:
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:02] <adrian> How do i make the konsole a widgetlike thingy?
[02:03] <adrian> seetrough, stuck on desktop and  no borders
[02:04] <Parkotron> adrian: Try YaKuake. http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153 I've never used it, but I see a lot of people do.
[02:04] <adrian> thanks
[02:04] <adrian> ooooh
[02:04] <adrian> sexy
[02:05] <adrian> oh :(
[02:06] <adrian> it ain't in the kubuntu repo's
[02:06] <adrian> *isn't
[02:06] <Parkotron> While we're on the topic, can you make Konsole remember the tab bar position? If I hide it or move it to the bottom it reappears at the top when I restart Konsole.
[02:06] <adrian> yes
[02:07] <adrian> select the option 'Save Sessionprofile as standard'
[02:07] <adrian> no wait
[02:07] <adrian> just 'Save as standard'
[02:07] <adrian> or something like that, i'm translating from dutch :D
[02:07] <tsdgeos> save as default i'd say
[02:07] <Parkotron> Oh. I'll try that. Thanks.
[02:08] <Parkotron> I found an Ubuntu Yakuake deb here: http://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu/pool/universe/y/yakuake/
[02:08] <Parkotron> No idea whether it safe, though.
[02:09] <jarlath> Are there any caveats to upgrading the kernel? I went from 386 to 686 and now kaffeine cant read DVD's.
[02:09] <ccc_> yakuake 2.6 is in universe
[02:09] <VincentMX> why doesn't Kubuntu use Splashy by default instead of  USplash? Splashy looks much better and has more colors
[02:10] <adrian> ccc_: , sudo apt-cache search yakuke didn't give anytthing
[02:10] <adrian> oooh
[02:10] <adrian> yakuake
[02:10] <adrian> damn :D
[02:10] <ccc_> ;)
[02:10] <Parkotron> I from what I've read I think USplash was whipped up in like 10 hours to make the Breezy deadline.
[02:11] <Hobbsee> VincentMX: can i have a link to splashy please?
[02:11] <VincentMX> ok
[02:11] <Parkotron> The author admits it's limited, but since it only has 16 colours it will run on ANY hardware.
[02:12] <VincentMX> Hobbsee: http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/doku.php
[02:12] <Hobbsee> VincentMX: thanks
[02:12] <adrian> hm
[02:13] <adrian> noob question
[02:13] <Parkotron> I think they're looking to replace it with something better, but that something would have to be able to fall back on 16 colours if hardware was ancient.
[02:13] <adrian> how do i start yakuake? :/
[02:13] <VincentMX> type yakuake in Konsole
[02:13] <adrian> doesnt exist
[02:13] <VincentMX> man yakuake
[02:13] <Hobbsee> that's nice!
[02:13] <FHX> Hello
[02:13] <VincentMX> in konsole
[02:13] <VincentMX> yo FHX
[02:14] <FHX> Does anybody know how I can change my keyboard layout so that when I type ' + e I get an accented e?
[02:14] <FHX> I'm having a lot of trouble with that. Before upgrading it worked fine and i could change my keyboard layout, but now I can't anymore.
[02:14] <tsdgeos> FHX: wait a mo
[02:14] <FHX> ok
[02:16] <Ryugi> hello
[02:16] <Parkotron> adrian: I had to install version 2.6. 2.7.3 had crazyy dependencies.
[02:17] <ccc_> Parkotron: same here
[02:17] <Ryugi> i am a kde user.i want to know what good stuff does kubuntu have ove fedora .
[02:17] <tsdgeos> FHX: you say that the kcontrol part that lets you choose the layout is empty righyt?
[02:17] <Parkotron> Crazy, that is. The weren't crazy enough to deserve two 'y's.
[02:17] <ccc_> :D
[02:17] <adrian> Me too Parkotron
[02:17] <adrian> 2.6 works like a charm!
[02:18] <Parkotron> To fix the keyboard layout bug in 3.5.1 do the following:
[02:18] <Parkotron> sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb
[02:18] <tsdgeos> ahh thanks Parkotron
[02:19] <tsdgeos> FHX: ^^^^^^^^^
[02:19] <adrian> i like the way it's exactly like the Konsole
[02:19] <adrian> a silly question: how do i get applications to start on bootup
[02:19] <adrian> gnome had an option for this
[02:19] <wrtpeeps> hi
[02:19] <Ryugi> can some one help me out
[02:20] <Hobbsee> !+someone
[02:20] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:20] <tsdgeos> lol
[02:20] <adrian> yeah
[02:20] <tsdgeos> ubotu: totally agree
[02:20] <wrtpeeps> I have a slight problem. When my kubuntu boots, it gets to 'checking battery state' and then stops
[02:20] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tsdgeos
[02:20] <wrtpeeps> but it says [OK]  beside battery state
[02:20] <adrian> do you have a desktop?
[02:20] <hxkoh> tsdgeos: right
[02:20] <hxkoh> it's empty
[02:20] <wrtpeeps> and this computer isn;t a laptop, so what battery is it checking
[02:20] <tsdgeos> lol ubotu is a bot :D
[02:21] <wrtpeeps> adrian: are you talking to me there?
[02:21] <kalinga> #kbuntu-hardware
[02:21] <adrian> yes
[02:21] <wrtpeeps> adrian: yea
[02:21] <wrtpeeps> adrian: not a laptop :)
[02:21] <adrian> it checks the battery state at my box too
[02:21] <adrian> but that's all
[02:22] <wrtpeeps> does it freeze?
[02:22] <adrian> just an immediate OK and it goes on
[02:22] <adrian>  no freeze
[02:22] <wrtpeeps> it has an immediate [ok] . but it does not continue
[02:22] <FHX1> Bleh
[02:23] <FHX1> tsdgeos: can you help me with the keyboard thing?
[02:23] <wrtpeeps> i have installed on vmware, by the way
[02:23] <wrtpeeps> if that makes a difference
[02:23] <Hobbsee> night all
[02:23] <Parkotron> adrian: To make a program launch at startup, create a .desktop file for it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:24] <adrian> like a shortcut?
[02:24] <Ryugi> i am currently using fedora 4.what good stuff does kubuntu have
[02:24] <tsdgeos> FHX: Parkotron already answered you
[02:24] <tsdgeos> [14:18]  <Parkotron> sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb
[02:25] <Parkotron> Yeah. Like a shortcut. I could paste an example if you need one.
[02:25] <FHX1> I dont' really understand how that works
[02:25] <adrian> i made a yakuake.desktop file
[02:26] <adrian> Ryugi: !!APT!!
[02:26] <adrian> so great
[02:26] <Ryugi> ok
[02:26] <adrian> you browse around for files, see a  name, just type in sudo apt-cache search 'file' and you're bound to find something
[02:26] <Ryugi> does APT have more packages than fedora
[02:27] <adrian> Ryugi: , some Debian packages work for me
[02:27] <adrian> so i would say yes
[02:27] <Ryugi> ok
[02:27] <FHX1> Parkotron: could you give me an example? i'm lost
[02:27] <Parkotron> adrian: Have you figured out if it has any settings? I'd like to resize it, but it won't let me.
[02:27] <nimatar> hi folks, if i want to add a command on boot, more specifically "$ sudo dhclient" how can i do that?
[02:27] <adrian> ehh
[02:27] <Ryugi> but i see fedora has yum.don't both of them do the same thing
[02:27] <adrian> you had some options for that
[02:28] <Parkotron> FHX1: Could you state exactly what you're problem is?
[02:28] <adrian> click on the little arrow next to the cross Parkotron
[02:28] <adrian> there you see some resizing options
[02:28] <nimatar> anybody??
[02:28] <claireb98> bonjour
[02:28] <FHX1> Parkotron: Before upgrading, my keyboard layout was such that when I ty ped ' + e it would give me an accented e, same for the other alphabets. After upgrading I'm no longer able to do that, nor can I find a way to change my keyboard layout to allow me to do that.
[02:29] <claireb98> i'm looking for a chat for kunbuntu in french plse
[02:29] <FHX1> claireb98: tu parles francais?
[02:29] <claireb98> oui
[02:29] <FHX1> wow awesome
[02:29] <FHX1> chouette XD
[02:29] <adrian> pfeh
[02:29] <claireb98> pourquoi pas de franais ici ?
[02:29] <adrian> Francais est trop difficile pour moi :(
[02:30] <marseillai> si si yen a
[02:30] <FHX1> je ne sais pas..
[02:30] <claireb98> salut les frenchies
[02:30] <Parkotron> Is kcontrol | Regional & Accessibility | Keyboard Layouts empty?
[02:30] <marseillai> claireb98: #kubuntu-fr
[02:30] <FHX1> XD je suis singaporean, pas de france
[02:30] <claireb98> merci
[02:30] <claireb98> sur freenode aussi ?
[02:30] <marseillai> vi vi
[02:31] <claireb98> bonjour  Singapour
[02:31] <FHX1> XD salut
[02:31] <FHX1> Bleh. Je besoin les accents sur mon keyboard pour taper mes devoirs T_T
[02:32] <nimatar> right now i have to do $ sudo dhclient every time i boot, is there a way to let kubuntu run dhclient automatically on boot?
[02:32] <claireb98> faut acheter un clavier franais sur internet
[02:32] <FHX1> mais non, avant de "upgrade" je pourrais.
[02:32] <tchize> http://tinypic.com/?pic=nn8ria  <-- openoffice 2 got crazy in my kubuntu :D
[02:33] <FHX1> mais maintenant je ne peux pas.
[02:33] <tchize> http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=nn8ria  <-- sorry above link wrong
[02:33] <Parkotron> nimitar: Go to ~/.kde/Autostart and create a .desktop file for "kdesu dhclient" and let me know if it works.
[02:34] <Parkotron> That will run it every time you start KDE, not Kubuntu.
[02:34] <FHX1> aargh.
[02:34] <FHX1> Parkotron: can you help me with my keyboard problem?
[02:34] <nimatar> Parkotron, uhm... but dont' that need my password?
[02:35] <marseillai> Parkotron: it can be done in a cron or using "at"
[02:35] <marseillai> nimatar: using kdesu yes you will have to type your password not using cron or at
[02:35] <claireb98> fhx1 pour remplacer tes accents qui ne figurent pas sur ton clavier utilise le code ascii
[02:36] <claireb98> 
[02:36] <claireb98> alt 0201
[02:36] <FHX1> Hm..
[02:36] <Parkotron> FHX1: Keyboard layouts shouldn't require your password.
[02:36] <claireb98> tu peux les trouver sur internet
[02:36] <FHX1> mais avant j'ai tape : ' + e et j'ai un e avec l'accent
[02:36] <marseillai> FHX1: c quoi ton clavier? cherche sur le net la config Xorg qui va bien!
[02:36] <claireb98> essaie ce que je viens de te donner alt 0201
[02:37] <nimatar> marseillai, thx
[02:37] <FHX1> claireb98: ca ne marche pas
[02:37] <FHX1> x.x
[02:37] <_alex> salut a tous :D
[02:38] <FHX1> _alex: salut
[02:38] <FHX1> Bleh
[02:38] <marseillai> euh
[02:38] <FHX1> J'ai des devoirs pour faire T_T
[02:38] <nimatar> marseillai, what is at, dunno how to search it with google?
[02:38] <FHX1> mon prof. francais vas etre fache. x.x
[02:38] <claireb98> on dit " j'ai des devoirs  faire"
[02:38] <FHX1> ah, merci. ^^
[02:38] <marseillai> FHX1: _alex claireb98 jvoudrais pas dire mais ici c un chan anglais! s'ils ralent parce que vous parlez francais ici ca serait comprehensible d'autant plus qu'un chan fr existe!!!
[02:39] <FHX1> x.x ok ok
[02:39] <_alex> au fait quelqu un peu maider sur kubuntu je vien a pein de listaller
[02:39] <marseillai> nimatar: at is a system like cron but it's able to do something "at boot" or "at stop" or "at 8pm"
[02:39] <claireb98> you must be really be cool all englisher
[02:39] <FHX1> ?
[02:39] <marseillai> _alex: va sur #kubuntu-fr
[02:39] <FHX1> Say
[02:40] <FHX1> do you guys have msn or aim?
[02:40] <gerdgruhn> Hi, all
[02:40] <ninnghizidha> Hello I got problems with dcopserver - if i open kate/kwrite, kde will inform me about a already running dcop-server, and that i shall delete a the .DCOPserver_File.
[02:40] <FHX1> XD then i can practice speaking french with you
[02:40] <ninnghizidha> it just happens when i use sudo.
[02:40] <claireb98> i speak english as you speak french don't you
[02:40] <_alex> merci
[02:40] <gerdgruhn> Can my anybody say, how I install a HP PSC2355 (Printer, Scanner)? Thanks
[02:40] <FHX1> claireb98: Do you have msn?
[02:40] <FHX1> XD
[02:40] <claireb98> yes
[02:40] <FHX1> claireb98: Can I add you?
[02:41] <nimatar> marseillai, ok, fund it, just did $ man at :)
[02:41] <claireb98> gaim
[02:41] <marseillai> kopete powaaaaa
[02:41] <FHX1> kopete lags for me
[02:41] <FHX1> T_T
[02:41] <claireb98> as you like
[02:41] <marseillai> claireb98: t'es d'ou ?
[02:41] <claireb98> France
[02:41] <marseillai> non!
[02:42] <marseillai> sans rire! :)
[02:42] <FHX1> je crois que France et hypercool XD
[02:42] <claireb98> suburd of Paris
[02:42] <FHX1> claireb98: ton msn est..?
[02:42] <claireb98> is not really paradise
[02:42] <claireb98> i am connected on gaim
[02:43] <FHX1> Hm..
[02:43] <FHX1> what's your aim/msn? i will add you to my gaim
[02:43] <claireb98> claireb98@hotmail.fr
[02:47] <FHX1> claireb98: Okay I added you
[02:47] <claireb98> 'im going on kubuntu-fr
[02:47] <claireb98> bye
[02:53] <nimatar> can't find a way of using at to execute a cammand at boot :\
[02:55] <nimatar> maybe i should use the init scripts?
[03:12] <Pyrobob> my superkarama hates me...
[03:12] <Pyrobob> it won't load liquied weather.
[03:12] <Pyrobob> liuid*
[03:12] <Pyrobob> ...
[03:12] <Pyrobob> liquid*
[03:12] <nimatar> :P
[03:12] <marseillai> you have the last liquid weather version ?
[03:12] <Pyrobob> lol
[03:13] <Pyrobob> think so
[03:13] <Pyrobob> it was working last night
[03:13] <Pyrobob> then just.... stopped
[03:13] <marseillai> check this!
[03:13] <marseillai> i had this problem
[03:13] <Pyrobob> how do I fix it?
[03:14] <marseillai> Pyrobob: download the last  liquid weather theme and start this one you will loose your configuration but it should work
[03:15] <Pyrobob> do it through superkaramba? or no
[03:15] <Pyrobob> because I can't isntall themes when I download through superkaramba
[03:15] <Pyrobob> says somthing about permissions
[03:15] <marseillai> no
[03:15] <Pyrobob> k
[03:15] <marseillai> through kde-look
[03:17] <Parkotron> Does anyone here use knemo, the network monitor service? I enjoy it quite a bit, but since I upgraded to 3.5.* it keeps disappearing from the systray. I have to stop and restart the service to get it to appear. Any ideas?
[03:18] <fjellrev1> Mplayer doesnt want to play videos in fullscreen allthough I press fullscreen,anyone have any solutions to this?
[03:20] <nomad16> fjellrev1: what about starting mplayer with -fs ?
[03:20] <fjellrev1> mkay,lets see if my noob ass can handle this :)
[03:20] <Stargazers> Hi
[03:21] <Stargazers> Can anyone help me with my problem. I dont know how, but I lost my KDE and kubuntu-desktop have no installation possibilities? What I can do, now I should use gnome :S
[03:21] <Stargazers> The problem is that how I can install KDE back?
[03:22] <Stargazers> E: Package kubuntu-desktop has no installation candidate
[03:22] <Stargazers> This is the error message what it will say...
[03:23] <nomad16> Stargazers: try adding the installation CD to your package management system with apt-cdrom, and then give it another go?  Just an idea
[03:23] <Stargazers> Uh, it is possible to download and use that file on hard disk, I have no cd now :S
[03:24] <nomad16> Stargazers: what sort of net connection do you have?
[03:25] <Stargazers> 2M / 600
[03:25] <Stargazers> I can download it of course fully, I put it to download, 206kb/s...
[03:25] <Stargazers> kB of course
[03:25] <nomad16> Stargazers: what do you have listed in your /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[03:26] <Stargazers> deb ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu breezy main
[03:26] <Stargazers> Only that
[03:26] <Stargazers> I have tried many things, but I have no idea what else should I add
[03:27] <Stargazers> I removed libavahi packages when I tried to update it and it removed ALL of my KDE files :S
[03:27] <nomad16> Stargazers: I would try another repository then, maybe breezy-backports (http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/) instead, and try that?  Not sure what version of KDE you'll get, but a quick serch of the site should let you know...
[03:28] <Stargazers> Uh... so what kind of deb file it should be? deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/ breezy main
[03:28] <Stargazers> Like that?
[03:30] <nomad16> Stargazers: yeah something like that, but remember to apt-get update before you try to install anything ... But you knew that anyway ;-)
[03:30] <nomad16> Gotta run, thumderstorm a' comin', so it's time to shutdown...  Wish I had a good UPS.
[03:35] <Stargazers> Uh...
[03:35] <Stargazers> Did not work :S
[03:35] <Stargazers> Does anyone else have any ideas?
[03:36] <visik7> well I've installed dapper flight cd 3 and say to it use the largest contiguous free space and it format my hd
[03:36] <visik7> WTF ?
[03:48] <adrian> Hiya all
[03:52] <Howitzer> pfoe
[03:53] <Howitzer> i like Konversation more then XChat
[03:53] <Howitzer> don't know why
[03:53] <ccc_> of course, it's kde. =)
[03:55] <syst> Is the folder var/cache/apt/archives needed because it's taking up like 600MB?
[03:55] <visik7> I've suid cdrecord and cdrdao enabled dma on cd writer but dev buffer attempt to underrun when using other apps somebody can tell me what to do ?
[03:56] <Howitzer> hehe
[03:56] <Howitzer> i wish it had an option for a different color for your own writings though
[03:57] <ccc_> Howitzer: it does, i believe
[04:00] <ccc_> Howitzer: pick a color in notification > highlight > always highlight own lines
[04:09] <syst> Is the folder var/cache/apt/archives needed because it's taking up like 600MB? anyone??
[04:11] <angasule> !wine
[04:11] <bobbyd_> hi, how do i enable burning mp3s to an audio cd in k3b?
[04:12] <Tm_T> ubotu: tell bobbyd_ about mp3
[04:12] <bobbyd_> Tm_T, I can *play* mp3s...
[04:13] <angasule> !mp3
[04:13] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[04:13] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:13] <angasule> bobbyd_: what ubotu said
[04:14] <bobbyd_> angasule, I don't see anything specifically on that page about burning mp3s with k3b
[04:15] <visik7> aptitude install k3b-mp3
[04:16] <visik7> not so difficult to find out
[04:16] <bobbyd_> visik7, :)
[04:16] <bobbyd_> visik7, thanks
[04:16] <visik7> np
[04:19] <Howitzer> how can i get yakuake to be a tiiiiny bit lower?
[04:19] <Howitzer> because my taskbar is on the upper side and it's covering a bit of yakuake
[04:20] <praveen> hi all
[04:20] <Pyrobob> my clock keeps managing to re-set itself
[04:20] <_sergio> hi, do you know any dvd-ripping tool?
[04:21] <praveen> hey guys, any ideas why kubuntu has got many pachages broken for KDE 3.5.1?
[04:21] <Parkotron> Howitzer: On the KDE-Apps.org page there's a guy who made a patch to do that, but you'd have to recompile it yourself.
[04:21] <Howitzer> recompile, like in ./configure make and all?
[04:21] <hatake_kakashi> _sergio: acidrip, but you need to get mplayer and mencoder properly configured
[04:22] <_sergio> thanks kakashi-sensei ;)
[04:22] <Pyrobob> hatake_kakashi... thats the coolest name I've seen on this channel.
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> Pyrobob: huh -_-
[04:22] <Pyrobob> xD
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> anyway I need to catch some shuteye
[04:23] <Pyrobob> seriously though. my clock keeps managing to re-set itself
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi>  01:25:22 up 8 days,  7:44,  1 user,  load average: 0.47, 1.34, 1.24
[04:23] <Howitzer> lol
[04:23] <Parkotron> Howitzer: Not to mention you'd have to know how to apply a patch. It's beyond my skill/effort level.
[04:23] <Howitzer> Pyrobob: , maybe GMT things?
[04:23] <Pyrobob> tried that
[04:23] <Pyrobob> screwed with everything on the clock to try to fix it
[04:24] <Pyrobob> it was working right until I tried installing a few screensavers
[04:24] <Howitzer> wait
[04:24] <Howitzer> unclick 'adjust time x date automaticly'
[04:24] <Howitzer> :D
[04:24] <Pyrobob> ...
[04:24] <Howitzer> you tried that? :s
[04:24] <Pyrobob> think I might have missed that checkbox
[04:25] <Pyrobob> cuz I never saw it <_<;
[04:25] <Howitzer> i'm going to hit you if you did
[04:25] <Pyrobob> no it was never checked
[04:25] <Howitzer> oh
[04:25] <Pyrobob> or it would be checked right now
[04:25] <Pyrobob> never saw it until now so I am guessing by default its gotta x in the box
[04:25] <Pyrobob> it doesn't
[04:25] <Howitzer> is the right timezone in place?
[04:26] <Pyrobob> think so
[04:27] <Pyrobob> not a clue
[04:27] <Pyrobob> xD
[04:27] <Pyrobob> there's like 40 thousand "america" ones and don't know which one I need
[04:27] <Howitzer> ehh
[04:27] <Howitzer> that's the problem probably -_-
[04:27] <Howitzer> what time is it at your place now
[04:27] <Pyrobob> prolly
[04:27] <Pyrobob> 9:31 AM
[04:28] <Pyrobob> clock says 15:27
[04:28] <Howitzer> Sunday?
[04:28] <Pyrobob> yeah
[04:28] <Howitzer> well
[04:28] <Howitzer> your clock is set to GMT
[04:28] <Howitzer> since i'm at GMT+1 and it's 16:27 here
[04:28] <Pyrobob> UTC
[04:29] <Howitzer> at the installation of Kubuntu, they give you the time and ask you if it is Local or GMT
[04:29] <Howitzer> what did you choose.
[04:29] <jarlath> Can some
[04:29] <Pyrobob> think I chose local I don't remmeber
[04:29] <Pyrobob> remember*
[04:29] <jarlath> excuse me :) Can someone tell me what this means? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/551235
[04:30] <Howitzer> run sudo apt-get update and try again
[04:31] <Howitzer> 'W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems', try to follow the tips when given errors :D
[04:31] <jarlath> Howitzer: I did. Several time.
[04:31] <Pyrobob> xD
[04:31] <Howitzer> weird
[04:32] <Howitzer> what do you get when you do sudo apt-get update?
[04:32] <LinuxJones> Can someone recommend a bittorrent client for kde ?
[04:32] <Pyrobob> Ktorrent
[04:32] <Pyrobob> works great for me
[04:32] <LinuxJones> Pyrobob: thank you
[04:33] <_guri> i'm having some problems playing mp3 with any default players (Kaffeine AmoaK
[04:33] <Howitzer> _guri: , you need the codecs
[04:33] <_guri> like "lame"?
[04:33] <_guri> because...basically I am a *nix n00b
[04:33] <jarlath> Howitzer: heres the full output http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/551239
[04:34] <Pyrobob> n.n
[04:34] <Howitzer> how did you do it?
[04:34] <angasule> Pyrobob: I name thee The Chronomaster!
[04:34] <jarlath> Howitzer: me?
[04:35] <Pyrobob> I switched the timezone to chicago
[04:35] <Pyrobob> apparently their central...
[04:35] <Pyrobob> never knew that
[04:35] <Howitzer> :D
[04:35] <DavidKohut> hi, have you some experience with TV-out on IBM laptop? Should I have intel-graphic driver?
[04:35] <Howitzer> jarlath: , i have actually no idea what to do
[04:35] <Howitzer> let me check my own sources file
[04:35] <Pyrobob> would have never thought about switching it to chicago time, for I live in texas... kinda cross country
[04:35] <_guri> so, with these codecs? i do what? and where do i get them from?
[04:36] <jarlath> Howitzer: no problem. Thanks.
[04:36] <Howitzer> !codecs
[04:36] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:36] <Howitzer> !easysource
[04:36] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:36] <_guri> ty ubotu!
[04:36] <Howitzer> :D
[04:37] <Howitzer> ubotu is one ownage bot
[04:37] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Howitzer
[04:37] <_guri> !codecs
[04:37] <angasule> !restricted_formats
[04:37] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, angasule
[04:37] <angasule> !mp3
[04:37] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[04:37] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:37] <Howitzer> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:37] <Howitzer> try this jarlath
[04:38] <jarlath> Thanks Howitzer
[04:40] <Howitzer> man
[04:40] <Howitzer> i love kde-apps.org
[04:40] <Howitzer> just discovered it
[04:40] <Howitzer> lovely site
[04:43] <Howitzer> do you extract a bz2 package by tar -xjvf ?
[04:48] <angasule> Howitzer: yes
[04:49] <angasule> hmm, in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine it says to add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/", it should be "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt breezy binary" for kubuntu, I guess?
[04:50] <angasule> ciao, Cygnus_X1
[04:51] <skypa> greetings
[04:51] <robotgeek> angasule: if you know it to be correct, feel free to correct
[04:51] <Howitzer> woot
[04:51] <angasule> robotgeek: I don't, I'm asking :D
[04:52] <Howitzer> Kplayer is the FIRST media player that doesn't crash on me
[04:52] <angasule> robotgeek: plus, that's the *ubuntu* wiki, so 'correcting' would be 'wronging'
[04:52] <robotgeek> angasule: okay :)
[04:52] <skypa> I was wondering.. is there a tool like fraps available to capture videos of what happens at the desktop? (i.e. for training purposes)
[04:52] <Howitzer> hmm
[04:52] <robotgeek> angasule: what do you mean?
[04:52] <Howitzer> maybe
[04:52] <Howitzer> i'll google for it
[04:52] <robotgeek> skypa: istanbul, vnc2swf and several others
[04:52] <skypa> ty sir
[04:53] <robotgeek> skypa: let me give you a nice link :)
[04:53] <skypa> be my guest ^^
[04:53] <robotgeek> skypa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127534 has list of all tools :)
[04:53] <Howitzer> ooh
[04:53] <Howitzer> need it too
[04:53] <Howitzer> ty robotgeek
[04:54] <skypa> beautiful
[04:54] <skypa> thanks again robotgeek :>
[04:55] <FunnyLookinHat> I just installed kubuntu, and I'm used to using the Gnome based ubuntu...  what do I find for synaptic in kubuntu??
[04:55] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox1.5
[04:55] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:56] <robotgeek> !adept
[04:56] <ubotu> adept is, like, totally, a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[04:56] <FunnyLookinHat> Thanks!
[04:57] <FunnyLookinHat> man, I'm so glad I switched to kubuntu
[04:58] <angasule> FunnyLookinHat: what did you use before?
[04:59] <_nexus> how do you change the bootsplash theme in kubuntu, ive tryed searching google, n the ubuntu forums, but i still cant work it out, i know you have to compile them and as far as i can work out they are stored in /usr/lib/usplash , but how do i change it?
[04:59] <FunnyLookinHat> angasule: ubuntu, and before that just basic debian.
[04:59] <FunnyLookinHat> angasule: but i've always used gnome for some silly resaon
[04:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know why GAIM isn't available in the repositories??
[04:59] <robotgeek> !info gaim
[04:59] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[04:59] <angasule> FunnyLookinHat: it's available
[05:00] <FunnyLookinHat> I just need to add universe dont I
[05:00] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm off my game today, sorry
[05:00] <angasule> heh
[05:01] <juansebastian> hola
[05:01] <angasule> hola
[05:02] <Cygnus_X1> Grido con tutta la mia forza ma sembra che tutto finisca in /dev/null
[05:02] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok wow, yea KDE tools just seem to have a better interface to them than Gnome.  Anyways, thanks for the help everyone!
[05:03] <_nexus> how do you change the bootsplash theme
[05:03] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:05] <angasule> hi slow-motion
[05:05] <slow-motion> hi angasule
[05:05] <_sebastian> hey
[05:05] <_sebastian> was azureus updated just now?
[05:06] <_nexus> how do you change the bootsplash theme in kubuntu, ive tryed searching google, n the ubuntu forums, but i still cant work it out, i know you have to compile them and as far as i can work out they are stored in /usr/lib/usplash , but how do i change it?
[05:06] <robotgeek> i think so, 2.4 or something, looks nice
[05:06] <_sebastian> robotgeek: did it update correctly on your side?
[05:06] <_sebastian> mine keeps popping up with a msg
[05:07] <angasule> _nexus: don't know
[05:07] <robotgeek> yeah, it updated automagically. it had some problem with the swt stuff, i did not bother much
[05:07] <_sebastian> yea the SWT stuff doesn't want to update
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enable the 3drendering on my laptop?
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> with s3 graphics?
[05:07] <_sebastian> i guess shiouldn't be bothered
[05:08] <MetaMorfoziS> the glxgears is very slow
[05:08] <robotgeek> nah, who cares about looks when it downloads correctly!
[05:08] <_sebastian> yeh, right you are
[05:08] <luisito> well hello peopleee!!!
[05:08] <beefsprocket> indeed it was
[05:09] <luisito> is there a p2p software like emule but for kde?
[05:10] <luisito> but no amule.
[05:10] <luisito> something better
[05:13] <_sebastian> amule does the trick for me
[05:13] <_sebastian> i just realised i am a p2p "whore", how sad is that:}
[05:14] <redondos> Hello. I've got problems issuing DCOP commands. Here's how. Can anyone please tell me why? http://pastebin.com/551291
[05:15] <_sebastian> nah...when i think about i don't download that much.
[05:15] <visik7> are u running kde ? redondos
[05:15] <visik7> is the same user ?
[05:15] <redondos> yes, and yes
[05:15] <visik7> other dcop commands works ?
[05:16] <redondos> nope.
[05:16] <luisito> lll
[05:16] <wrtpeeps> i was wondering if someone could help me with a problem. When i try to boot my kubuntu install on vmware, it gets to 'checking battery state    [ok] ' and then stops. Anyone else having this problem?
[05:17] <angasule> redondos: typing 'dcop' in a konsole fails?
[05:17] <redondos> Yes.
[05:17] <redondos> Same error.
[05:18] <redondos> Ideas?
[05:19] <angasule> redondos: is the dcop server running?
[05:19] <angasule> type "ps -A | grep dcop"
[05:20] <redondos> redondos  8269  0.0  0.3  24488  1932 ?        S    03:04   0:09 dcopserver [kdeinit]  --nosid
[05:21] <angasule> well, no idea, it just seems like the clients can't connect to the server
[05:21] <redondos> yup, it does
[05:21] <redondos> does anyone know the dcop internals?
[05:23] <angasule> maybe you'll have better luck asking elsewhere, I know kde apps use a lot of dcop, so maybe #kde :/
[05:24] <redondos> I'm in there.
[05:24] <redondos> But nobody seems to follow. :)
[05:25] <redondos> thanks anyway, angasule
[05:25] <angasule> you're welcome, sorry I was of no use
[05:25] <redondos> oh, shut up :)
[05:27] <Howitzer> ehh
[05:27] <damnhil> I do I restore my synaptics touchpad functionality after I resume from a suspend?
[05:28] <Howitzer> sudo apt-get install build-essentials doesn't work :/
[05:28] <Howitzer> nvm
[05:29] <Howitzer> it's build-essential :-)
[05:29] <marseillai> Riddell: i've maid this bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/30579 but it seems hibernate work with gnome! so this must be a klaptopdaemon bug!
[05:30] <redondos> damnhil: Are you using software suspend 2?
[05:30] <marseillai> no
[05:30] <redondos> Then what?
[05:30] <marseillai> i don't wank make a kernel compilation
[05:30] <redondos> In-kernel software suspend?
[05:30] <redondos> Then I don't know. swsusp2 is what I use.
[05:30] <damnhil> redondos: yes
[05:30] <marseillai> you did a kernel compilation to use it redondos ?
[05:30] <damnhil> redondos: Do you have the same problem?
[05:33] <FunnyLookinHat> is Konversation just an implementation of xchat?
[05:33] <marseillai> nop FunnyLookinHat
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> oh ok
[05:34] <marseillai> redondos: can i have in dapper swsusp2 without make a kernel-compilation ?
[05:34] <redondos> marseillai: yeah, after patching the kernel source tree
[05:35] <redondos> marseillai: I don't think so, no.
[05:35] <marseillai> arf!
[05:35] <marseillai> :s
[05:35] <marseillai> oki thanks
[05:35] <redondos> np.
[05:37] <Howitzer> jeezes
[05:38] <Howitzer> i'm trying to install ksmoothdock
[05:38] <Howitzer> and i constantly have to apt-get stuff to make it work
[05:38] <Howitzer> new version of automake, new version of autoconf, new version of bla bla bla
[05:39] <marseillai> redondos: do you have an idea why one of my friend with the same laptop can use hibernate with ubuntu out of the box and why me i can't with Kubuntu out of the box ?
[05:39] <Howitzer> oh great
[05:39] <Howitzer> the repo's don't have the latest automake
[05:39] <redondos> Howitzer: Caveats of using a binary distribution. Oh, wait, that is *expected*. :)
[05:39] <Howitzer> :(
[05:39] <damnhil> marseillai, redondos: What's the laptop model?
[05:39] <Howitzer> oooh
[05:39] <Howitzer> they DO have automake1.6
[05:40] <Howitzer> it's just not the default automake
[05:40] <marseillai> damnhil: mine is a msi S260 http://forum.hardware.fr/forum2.php?config=hardwarefr.inc&cat=15&post=16435&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=3&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=0
[05:40] <redondos> marseillai: Hardware varies. I'd say one (or more) of the modules that you use to make your system tick has issues when returning from a suspension. With swsusp2 you could tweak it a little further. What is exactly the problem on your box?
[05:40] <Howitzer> wooohoo
[05:40] <Howitzer> it works for now!
[05:40] <redondos> damnhil: HP Pavilion zv5370us
[05:41] <damnhil> marseillai, redondos: My touchpad's srolling function sometimes does not work after resume from suspend2/hibernate.
[05:41] <redondos> Howitzer: sweet :)
[05:42] <marseillai> redondos: hibernate seems to work fine! but at boot nothing happen only a "normal boot" : my malone-bug-report : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/30579
[05:42] <redondos> damnhil: What happens if you restart the X server? (that will close KDE completely) You can quickly do that by pressing control+alt+backspace.
[05:42] <redondos> marseillai: Well, yeah. It looks like you need swsusp2 :)
[05:42] <marseillai> lol
[05:42] <marseillai> cooooolllllll
[05:42] <redondos> I'm not that experienced with the previous patches.
[05:43] <redondos> They never did any good on my systems.
[05:43] <damnhil> redondos: I think it will restore. I did hibernate again and the touchpad's scrolling functionality was restored
[05:43] <marseillai> i never succeed to compil a kernel!
[05:43] <redondos> damnhil: Looks like a module loading problem to me.
[05:43] <redondos> marseillai: Don't be a wanker, it's god damn easy. :)
[05:43] <redondos> marseillai: You get to know your hardware a little better.
[05:43] <marseillai> lol
[05:44] <marseillai> this is the problem! :D
[05:44] <damnhil> redondos: how can I reload the synaptics module?
[05:44] <marseillai> i'll try
[05:44] <redondos> I said you *get* to know it better.
[05:44] <redondos> damnhil: Unfortunately, restarting the X server. Unless... there is some other way that I don't know about, but I don't think so.
[05:45] <damnhil> redondos: why did you condemn marseillai wanker?
[05:45] <redondos> hehe, I was just kidding.
[05:50] <Howitzer> aargh
[05:50] <Howitzer> it doesn't work
[05:50] <Howitzer> i always get the error that my X includes aren't good
[05:56] <tomplast> hi everyone
[05:56] <tomplast> can anyone help me getting cups working in kubuntu 6.04 (dapper drake)
[05:56] <tomplast> ?
[06:13] <_david> Anyone else here have the audio/video not sync on video.google.com correctly ever?
[06:17] <mastrosoft> que que isso?
[06:19] <MetaMorfoziS> _david:  for me it's work good
[06:19] <MetaMorfoziS> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3010891853586596603
[06:19] <MetaMorfoziS> lol:DD
[06:23] <_david> strange
[06:27] <dereks> how do i add unrar-free so that it works with ark?
[06:28] <EightiesK> !tar
[06:29] <dereks> EightiesK: rar not ta
[06:29] <dereks> r
[06:29] <EightiesK> !rar
[06:29] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:29] <EightiesK> tar sends it to me only
[06:29] <dereks> thanks
[06:30] <_guigui> how can i join  the french irc
[06:30] <jpatrick> _guigui: #kubuntu-fr ?
[06:30] <EightiesK> kubuntu-fr
[06:33] <pm> kernel 2.6.15.x and no bootsplash, why????
[06:34] <MetaMorfoziS> the links isn't opens the default browser (firefox) from thunderbird
[06:34] <MetaMorfoziS> any idea?
[06:35] <vge> somebody uses tilda in KDE?
[06:35] <MetaMorfoziS> ~?
[06:37] <vge> MetaMorfoziS: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90475.html try that one
[06:39] <MetaMorfoziS> thx! i work on it
[06:41] <EightiesK> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/551392
[06:42] <EightiesK> I was installing kopete
[06:48] <Tm_T> oh my
[06:49] <jpatrick> ...goodness
[06:49] <Tm_T> that eightiesk is sort of pain in my ass
[06:50] <jpatrick> eh?
[06:50] <Tm_T> come popping to channels asking and waiting answer a whole MINUTE
[06:55] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm for me it's not work
[06:55] <MetaMorfoziS> the thunderbird isn't spawns firefox
[06:55] <MetaMorfoziS> when i click a link at it
[06:55] <visik7> me too
[06:56] <MetaMorfoziS> and anybody know about the solution?:D
[06:57] <redondos> Is Firefox your default browser?
[06:57] <baver> I'm trying to install kubuntu off the dvd image, however, when trying to install the base system, a number of "could not retrieve" errors flash by, then a "Base system installation error" pops up, says to check a log that doesn't exist. Any ideas?
[06:57] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[06:57] <redondos> (http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/11680.html)
[06:57] <redondos> Thunderbird might have an option to override it, look for it.
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> yes i know, under win i saw it
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> but i'm not ofund it under lin.
[06:58] <redondos> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html
[06:59] <redondos> That explains it well.
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> it's old
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> but for me work all other apps
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> opens the firefox
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> except the thudnerbird.
[07:03] <sneod> i have a problem when i type apt-get update
[07:04] <sneod> i will paste the output online ......
[07:04] <Tm_T> sneod: paste to pastebin
[07:05] <sneod> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/551418
[07:05] <Tm_T> sneod: only warning, ignore ;(
[07:07] <Enchanter_tim> hello
[07:08] <Enchanter_tim> ive run into a slight problem. ive updated hoary to breezy a while ago, but now the automount of usb-sticks doesnt seem to work anymore
[07:08] <codingismy9to5> Is it possible to install Kubuntu (5.10) on a slave hard drive?  I forced lilo to install on primary MBR, but the 2nd install phase just dumps to busybox
[07:08] <Enchanter_tim> is there something that i need to change for this?
[07:09] <sneod> i'll paste it in #pastebin
[07:09] <sneod> Tm_T,  do you mean that is all that showed
[07:10] <sneod> brb
[07:13] <suadeo> I just did a fresh install on my mac mini, but when I get to X, my cursor is fine, everything else is all twisted and skewed. I have a 20.1" dell 2005fwp monitor. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[07:21] <nijan> hello, I want to connect myself using bluetooth + nokia 6640
[07:21] <nijan> ops, to internet, but I've no idea where to start from
[07:22] <Enchanter_tim> ok, it seems that the konqueror media:/ kio_slave doesnt pick up the usb disk
[07:23] <dressed_in_black> hello all
[07:24] <fyzix> Why is it that kubuntu users doesn't have access to firefox 1.5 through apt-get?
[07:25] <jpatrick> fyzix: archives are frozen
[07:25] <jpatrick> !firefox1.5
[07:25] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:25] <MetaMorfoziS> jpatrick: why frozen?
[07:25] <MetaMorfoziS> i understand the stable versions only in the package lists
[07:25] <MetaMorfoziS> but why frozen?
[07:26] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: because Breezy was released ages ago
[07:26] <jpatrick> only security fixes etc
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> but not only the breezy repositories in the world
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i've added some other
[07:26] <fyzix> what does it mean its frozen?
[07:26] <MetaMorfoziS> and nowhere ff1.5
[07:26] <jpatrick> I'm going for supper
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> how years old the breezy?
[07:27] <kkathman> MetaMorfoziS: breezy is about 4 months old
[07:27] <fyzix> well. firefox 1.5 is kinda a security fix isn't it? I mean... then it should be available via multiverse/universe
[07:28] <fyzix> thats not very old
[07:28] <MetaMorfoziS> it's strange...
[07:28] <kkathman> ubuntu is about 2 years old or so, breezy is just the latest version.
[07:28] <kkathman> version are released roughly twice per year.
[07:29] <kkathman> warty was the first release, then hoary, then breezy, and dapper will be in April.
[07:31] <fyzix> brrr... I think, it would be a lot easier to just upgrade to firefox 1.5, or at least make it optional through apptitude
[07:32] <kkathman> firefox is relatively easy to install tho.
[07:32] <kkathman> you download it from their site, untar it in your home directory, then set a symlink in /usr/bin
[07:33] <fyzix> yeah. I know, but I would like that it just upgraded automatically through apt-get, so I didn't have to do anything other than write adept-updater
[07:33] <kkathman> programs in the repositories are put there, and typically not updated until the next release, unless there is a critical bug, or security issue.
[07:33] <MetaMorfoziS> after i upgraded to 3.5.1 kde in kcontrols isn't lists the keyboardmappings
[07:34] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need?
[07:34] <GameOver69> hey guys how do i install the new azureus 2.4 in kubuntu
[07:35] <Enchanter_tim> kkathman: there is a security issue in ff 1.5
[07:35] <Enchanter_tim> remote code execution
[07:35] <kkathman> not that I know of
[07:35] <fyzix> MetaMorfoziS do you mean the Keyboard Layout?
[07:35] <Enchanter_tim> (i can confirm this on a breezy system)
[07:36] <fyzix> Enchanter_tim well ok, 1.5.1 then
[07:36] <Enchanter_tim> kkathman: the code has been added to metasploit recently
[07:36] <kkathman> if you find something, please report a bug to Firefox
[07:36] <MetaMorfoziS> keyboard mapping sorry
[07:36] <MetaMorfoziS> so i have hungarian
[07:36] <Enchanter_tim> heh, they have been notified :)
[07:36] <kkathman> ok
[07:37] <MetaMorfoziS> but the language menu and the keyboard mapping
[07:37] <kkathman> there is a 1.5.0.1 out there
[07:37] <MetaMorfoziS> is there a list
[07:37] <Enchanter_tim> kkathman: indeed
[07:37] <MetaMorfoziS> where i can add a lot of languages
[07:37] <Enchanter_tim> but not in the repositories i think
[07:37] <MetaMorfoziS> to the "active mapping"
[07:37] <MetaMorfoziS> and the first list is empty
[07:37] <Enchanter_tim> (running dapper here, not breezy, so i cant confirm this at the moment)
[07:38] <Enchanter_tim> and yeah, was running breezy intill a few minutes ago on the other system, but im now upgrading that one as well
[07:38] <buga> MetaMorfoziS: same here
[07:38] <MetaMorfoziS> fyzix where can i fill it with languages?
[07:39] <fyzix> MetaMorfoziS actually, my keyboard layout list is  pretty blank too
[07:39] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, you use 3.5.1 kde?
[07:39] <fyzix> yeah
[07:39] <Enchanter_tim> my little brother cant seem to access his usbkey, and it seems that the issue is in kde (and itsnt fixed properly)
[07:39] <MetaMorfoziS> the normal, notupgraded kde-s list isn't empty.
[07:39] <boz> is there anyway to upgrade from brezzy to dapper from the command line???
[07:39] <buga> MetaMorfoziS: 3.5.1 and dapper
[07:39] <fyzix> country/region & language, is that what you mean?
[07:39] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[07:40] <Enchanter_tim> boz, the easy way is to replace almost everything breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list , eth do an apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:40] <Enchanter_tim> s/eth/then/
[07:41] <Enchanter_tim> the upgrade will download almost 700 Mb. so it isnt very quick ;)
[07:41] <boz> enchanter, tim  i should of said an easy way lol
[07:42] <MetaMorfoziS> http://metamorfozis.hu/p/lay.png
[07:42] <Enchanter_tim> boz: that is the easy way i think :D
[07:42] <MetaMorfoziS> i think this ^^
[07:43] <fyzix> MetaMorfoziS I think to get more languages, you just do: apt-cache search ubuntu language
[07:43] <boz> i finally got all the issues worked out from  the breezy install, i'm kinda still in the Post tramatic stress syndrome! lmao
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> and how can i install it?
[07:43] <GameOver69> hey how do i fix the font to not look like they are interlocking in open office menus
[07:43] <tinin> anyone knows a program to format usb devices???
[07:44] <jerware> fellaz
[07:44] <tinin> a simply mp3 player
[07:44] <tinin> from the kde menu
[07:44] <fyzix> sudo apt-get install language-support-[language code]  (forexample da for danish)
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> oh yes
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> it said i have the newer version
[07:45] <Enchanter_tim> boz: well, it isnt hard.
[07:45] <jerware> im thinking about ditching fedora.  looking for a debian based distro, where multimedia is easy to play and setup/configure, such as music, dvd's, movies.
[07:45] <jerware> and would be nice it it hosted services but i can always have strait debian on my server
[07:45] <Enchanter_tim> boz: during the upgrade you might get some questions about what you want some packages to do, but those are easy
[07:45] <fyzix> then, I have no Idea
[07:45] <jerware> mostly mulitmedia friendly and the configuration programs would have to be scripts and not gui's
[07:46] <boz> i'm finally get the hang of it but its been like learning dutch, lol
[07:46] <jerware> is kubuntu the distro to have?
[07:46] <tinin> yes
[07:46] <jerware> tinin: you talkin to me ?
[07:47] <tinin> yes
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm tryed to reinstall
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> but it'sn ot soluted yet
[07:47] <Howitzer> How do i get glxgears to show the FPS?
[07:48] <jerware> tinin: are configureation programs scripts (as bash scripting examples)?  and is kubuntu multimedia friendly?
[07:48] <tinin> yes
[07:48] <tinin> yes
[07:48] <tinin> yes
[07:48] <jerware> nice!! all that stuff in fedora is guis and a bitch to work with
[07:48] <tinin> only one fucking problem, midis
[07:48] <jerware> what
[07:48] <kkathman> tinin: please watch the language
[07:49] <tinin> simply midis, wich can be handled by the simpliest device, but not by my kubuntu
[07:49] <jerware> can kubuntu host networking services, such as dsn, dhcp, ssh vsftpd, or is it a desktop distro rather than a server distro.  if not i can alway install debian 3.1 on  my server but im just curios.
[07:49] <jerware> primarily i need this for my laptop
[07:49] <kkathman> jerware:  yes of course
[07:50] <jerware> great!!
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> if i start kcontrol forom terminal
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> it said when i'm go to the listing
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@metagepe:~$ kcontrol: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fi                  x the program
[07:50] <jerware> sorry for the silly questions,  im migrating from fedora and am fed up   >:P
[07:50] <kkathman> jerware:  (k)ubuntu is an off shoot of debian, so typically anything there is available here, with some exceptions
[07:50] <jerware> ok
[07:51] <jerware> if i find a book on ubuntu, can that apply to kubuntu?  or even a book  on Debian?
[07:51] <tinin> the ubuntu guide is great
[07:51] <tinin> on internet
[07:51] <tinin> it aplies also to kubuntu
[07:51] <kkathman> jerware: There is actually a very good debian on line
[07:52] <kkathman> kubuntu is just ubunutu + KDE - Gnome
[07:52] <jerware> oh ok, cause  i cant find kbuntu speciffic books
[07:52] <jerware> ahh gotcha
[07:52] <kkathman> sorry I mean a good Debian BOOK on line
[07:52] <jerware> really!!
[07:52] <MetaMorfoziS> YEEEAH
[07:53] <jerware> i was looking at this  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593270690/sr=8-3/qid=1139770306/ref=pd_bbs_3/103-7522315-7416611?%5Fencoding=UTF8
[07:53] <kkathman> jerware: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> ATTENTION, THE PROBLEM ABOUT THE LOCALES AFTER UPGRADING TO THE 3.5.1 ARE SOLVED
[07:53] <jerware> nice
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/30295
[07:53] <jerware> cool thanx i love free stuff
[07:53] <kkathman> jerware:  why buy a book when its free :)
[07:53] <jerware> im a poor college kid
[07:53] <kkathman> hehe
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> yeeeahw
[07:53] <jerware> thanx pal  :P
[07:53] <kkathman> np
[07:55] <MetaMorfoziS> where i can add to the bot?
[07:55] <MetaMorfoziS> !commands?
[07:55] <ubotu> commands is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[07:55] <Howitzer> adrian@lckwd:~$ glxgears -printfps
[07:55] <Howitzer> Warrning: unknown parameter: -printfps
[07:56] <tinin> please, anyone knows a program to format usb devices like kfloppy or similar???
[07:56] <MetaMorfoziS> cfdisk?
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> cfdisk /media/usbdisk ?
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> or /dev/foo?
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> (sudo)
[07:57] <tinin> well...
[07:57] <tinin> i mean something grafical
[07:57] <tinin> easier...
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> cfdisk i think not too difficult
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i think you haven't got any lostable thing, so try it:)
[07:58] <tinin> like formatting it from konqueror
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> ...
[07:58] <tinin> El disco abierto es de slo lectura; no tiene permiso para escribir en l
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> itt angolul beszlj bazdmeg
[07:58] <tinin> that is what cfdisk says
[07:58] <jerware> how often does kubuntu update?
[07:59] <tinin> it means
[07:59] <jerware> a friend told me like every other day
[07:59] <jerware> mabey that was another distro
[07:59] <tinin> oppened disk is read only,
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> you mounted it readonly
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> not?
[07:59] <tinin> something like kfloppy?? for usb
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> or other way you can rw it?
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> read & write
[08:00] <tinin> it's the first time i try
[08:00] <tinin> i suppose i'll add a line to fstab
[08:00] <jerware> is debian known to be used in the corporate world?
[08:00] <tinin> but i don't know what to do
[08:01] <tinin> or write there
[08:01] <MetaMorfoziS> my kubuntu is accept it automatically
[08:01] <MetaMorfoziS> mount auto...
[08:01] <kkathman> jerware: not as much as say RedHat or SuSE
[08:01] <tinin> yes mine too
[08:01] <MetaMorfoziS> so i'm not need to add any lines to fstab
[08:01] <tinin> if it is formatted
[08:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and you can write?
[08:01] <MetaMorfoziS> you can copy sg to your drive?
[08:01] <tinin> yes
[08:01] <tinin> it writes
[08:02] <MetaMorfoziS> ok , a moment please i backup it:)
[08:02] <tinin> can someone tell me the line to put in fstab
[08:02] <tinin> what it's like
[08:02] <MetaMorfoziS> if you can read & write
[08:02] <MetaMorfoziS> you not need to add lines..
[08:02] <MetaMorfoziS> s-
[08:02] <tinin> so then i can use from amarok
[08:03] <MetaMorfoziS> is your pendrive vfat?
[08:03] <tinin> and from amarok to view as if it were a high priced mp3 player (ipod)
[08:03] <tinin> i need a mountig point or something
[08:04] <MetaMorfoziS> oh ipod...
[08:04] <tinin> is vfat
[08:04] <MetaMorfoziS> i think ipod have the feel itune program
[08:04] <MetaMorfoziS> my pd is simple
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> but vfat...
[08:05] <tinin> i think amarok can handle this devices, isn't it?
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm last formatted it under wind
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know
[08:05] <tinin> ???
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not using amarok
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> windows^^
[08:05] <MetaMorfoziS> right click -> format:)
[08:05] <tinin> you simply drag and drop?
[08:05] <tinin> yeah!
[08:06] <tinin> i wanted that
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> yeah...
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i simply drag & drop
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> thing under win and under lin..
[08:06] <tinin> right click would be great
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i heard about ipod's itunes
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> you under windows?
[08:07] <tinin> no i'm under kubuntu
[08:08] <MetaMorfoziS> where you found format option @ right click?:)
[08:08] <MetaMorfoziS> or i'm don't understand you?
[08:08] <tinin> and the mp3 is a simply card reader (15 euros!)
[08:08] <MetaMorfoziS> oh i thinked you have ipod...
[08:08] <_martinh> hello everybody
[08:08] <MetaMorfoziS> hy _martin
[08:09] <tinin> i found kfloppy to format floppy drives this way, i'm searching something similar
[08:09] <_martinh> hi meta
[08:09] <_martinh> now working here with a 5.1 kubuntu
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> 3.5.1:)
[08:09] <_martinh> yeah :D
[08:09] <tinin> are you a lucky guy with an ipod
[08:09] <tinin> ??
[08:09] <Tm_T> _martin: 5.10 not 5.1
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> no...
[08:10] <_martinh> yeeeeess
[08:10] <_martinh> ains
[08:10] <suadeo> i just installed kubuntu on my mac mini. when x starts up, my cursors is fine but everything else is all skewed. I have the modelines and everything.
[08:10] <_martinh> well, whatever, is a pretty easy installable distro
[08:10] <_martinh> but...
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> it's too expensive and too posh
[08:10] <_martinh> when you update....
[08:10] <tinin> i know
[08:10] <_martinh> all media disappear!!!
[08:11] <_martinh> amazing
[08:11] <tinin> yeah
[08:11] <jpatrick> _martinh: ?
[08:11] <_martinh> yes
[08:11] <_martinh> i cannot access to my disks
[08:11] <tinin> that problem under media:
[08:11] <jpatrick> media:/ ?
[08:11] <_martinh> yes
[08:11] <jpatrick> fixed in Dapper
[08:11] <_martinh> and also al mime is gone with the wind
[08:11] <_martinh> dapper??
[08:11] <jpatrick> !dapper
[08:11] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.
[08:11] <tinin> is there a way to fix it in breezy??
[08:12] <_martinh> yes, please, i don't want to install that drapper unstable thing... yet
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i' have avs cube 512mb with gray body
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm like it
[08:13] <tinin> have you got any problem with it, MetaMorfoziS?
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> no:)
[08:13] <_martinh> look, i was looking for a good stable, easyinstallation distro, for a education project an d
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> but i said that because it's very simply and small
[08:14] <tinin> and how do you format it?
[08:14] <tinin> cfdisk?
[08:14] <_martinh> i thought kubuntu was going ok,but...
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> ipod is small but not for me...
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm backuped it 2seconds ago
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> moment i try
[08:14] <tinin> ipod is expensive, that's all
[08:14] <UFO> _martinh: try suse
[08:14] <_martinh> all my disks disappear in a second!
[08:14] <_martinh> yeah, but suse is too heavy, I think
[08:15] <_martinh> we want to recycle old computers using pxes
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> yes i have the same
[08:15] <tinin> _martinh: go directly to the /media/ folder
[08:15] <UFO> _martinh: it runs faster than ubuntu
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm haven't any permission
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> moment
[08:15] <_martinh> tinin, i can go using terminal but not using konqueror
[08:15] <tinin> MetaMorfoziS: where are you from???
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> hungary
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> my english is shit:) sry:D
[08:16] <_martinh> here from spain and my english is worse...
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition begins after end-of-disk
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> oh sry
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> so i'm working:)
[08:16] <tinin> i'm from spain!!!
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> i know
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> i saw ^^ :)
[08:16] <tinin> fucking inglish
[08:17] <_martinh> que pasa tininnnnn
[08:17] <_martinh> como va eso
[08:17] <tinin> stop
[08:17] <_martinh> :P
[08:17] <tinin> q se mosquean
[08:17] <_martinh> ok
[08:17] <tinin> esperanto only!
[08:17] <malte> hm, midi isn't working on my computer, i have an emu10k1 soundblaster card. how can i try to fix this?
[08:17] <_martinh> juas
[08:17] <Enchanter_tim> wtf?
[08:18] <Enchanter_tim> kde doesnt even find my usb devices in dapper
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> hey nyugi legyen baszki
[08:18] <Riddell> !es
[08:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:18] <tinin> martin go to konq and write /media on the direction
[08:18] <tinin> nothing there??
[08:18] <_martinh> i did
[08:18] <_martinh> yes
[08:18] <tinin> ubotu
[08:18] <_martinh> just cdrom...
[08:18] <tinin> here are more people
[08:19] <tinin> try mount -a
[08:19] <tinin> o sudo mount -a
[08:19] <_martinh> hmm
[08:19] <tinin> if it does't work you'l have to edit fstab
[08:19] <_martinh> atencin: no hay ninguna nueva lnea final al final de /etc/fstab
[08:20] <_martinh> :(
[08:20] <_martinh> but i wrote a correct fstab
[08:20] <tinin> abre stc fstab
[08:20] <_martinh> mielda
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> hey thin
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> i found
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> a non gui way solution
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> but 2lines:)
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:03S6yCDR2v4J:www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-148098.html+%22how+to+format%22+%2Bpendrive+%2Blinux&hl=hu&gl=hu&ct=clnk&cd=5
[08:20] <tinin> it is't correct
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> uh shit this url:D
[08:21] <_martinh> hmmm
[08:21] <_martinh> "el gestor de medios no est ejecutndose"
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> the 2nd post
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> kussolsz vagy szjbarujalak?:DDD
[08:21] <_martinh> thats using sudo -s with konqueror
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> tinin: http://www.google.co.hu/search?hl=hu&q=%22how+to+format%22+%2Bpendrive+%2Blinux&btnG=Keres%A9s&meta=
[08:22] <_martinh> where is the "gestor de medios"???
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> you must check it:)
[08:22] <tinin> MetaMorfoziS:
[08:22] <tinin> i think i'll try with kde apps
[08:23] <tinin> there must be something there
[08:23] <tinin> i found kfloppy there
[08:23] <tinin> i'm sure there are more people who uses usb devices in an easier way
[08:24] <MetaMorfoziS> google is your friend, i'm not need to format
[08:24] <MetaMorfoziS> and you?
[08:24] <MetaMorfoziS> why need?
[08:24] <MetaMorfoziS> you select and delete all of the files...
[08:25] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the problem?
[08:25] <_martinh> tinin, do you mind if we speak in the ubuntu-es channel?
[08:25] <_martinh> :P
[08:25] <tinin> tb estoy viendo ah martin
[08:28] <tinin> MetaMorfoziS, i'll continue my searching, i bought my "ipod" yesterday, i wanted an easy way to manage it, i'll try to configure amarok to use it from there
[08:28] <knoppix__> hy , i installed kubuntu on this pc ,and the mouse didn`t work ,now i corrected the problem and now it still wont run .,what should i do?
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> !ipod
[08:28] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[08:30] <_harry> Hi! I'm having this problem, could someone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=726814#post726814
[08:33] <Howitzer> i need to be able to access a file from root
[08:34] <Howitzer> but it won't let me
[08:34] <Howitzer> how do i chmod it?
[08:34] <Howitzer> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:34] <Howitzer> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:34] <Howitzer> x11drv: Can't open display: :0.0
[08:34] <Howitzer> adrian@lckwd:/media/hda8/Games/Guild Wars$ sudo cedega Gw.exe
[08:34] <Howitzer> wine: '/home/adrian/.transgaming/wineserver-lckwd' is not owned by you
[08:34] <Howitzer> eek
[08:34] <Howitzer> sorry
[08:34] <tinin> _harry: format it first under windows (easy way) to fat, then try again
[08:35] <_harry> The drive is fat
[08:35] <_harry> My friend can read and write to it from kubuntu
[08:35] <_harry> no drive, no matter what fileformat it is can be mounted
[08:36] <gurumeditationer> I'm getting this error: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries)"
[08:36] <Tm_T> gurumeditationer: compiling what?
[08:36] <gurumeditationer> and I've got all the qt dev packages installed, any advice?
[08:37] <gurumeditationer> an old program I wrote on mandrake
[08:37] <Tm_T> ok
[08:37] <gurumeditationer> #include <private/qucomextra_p.h>
[08:37] <gurumeditationer> #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 303)
[08:37] <gurumeditationer> #error 1
[08:37] <gurumeditationer> #endif
[08:37] <gurumeditationer> int main() {
[08:37] <gurumeditationer>     (void)QStyleFactory::create(QString::null);
[08:37] <gurumeditationer>     QCursor c(Qt::WhatsThisCursor);
[08:37] <gurumeditationer>     return 0;
[08:37] <gurumeditationer> }
[08:37] <tinin> _harry: so the problem must be laptop related
[08:38] <_harry> yeah, probably.
[08:38] <Tm_T> gurumeditationer: yay, please don't flood in channel, pastebin for more than 2 lines ;)
[08:38] <_harry> Are there anything I can check to find out something more?
[08:38] <tinin> search problems about your friends pc under linux
[08:38] <gurumeditationer> this seems to be what it's spewing at, what package sets the variables like QT_VERSION? is there a way to find that out?
[08:39] <Tm_T> gurumeditationer: developer.kde.org for start?
[08:39] <jerware> what chxxx command changes my login name?
[08:40] <gurumeditationer> isn't this sort of thing more specific to the distro on how it's packaged?
[08:42] <MetaMorfoziS> ius xmms supports winamp skins?
[08:42] <MetaMorfoziS> u-
[08:42] <MetaMorfoziS> is xmms supports winamp skins?
[08:42] <m0ns00n> Yes
[08:42] <brydenn> anyone here use KBFX?
[08:43] <m0ns00n> But not the newest ones
[08:44] <MetaMorfoziS> so the simple only...
[08:44] <MetaMorfoziS> < 2.9
[08:44] <MetaMorfoziS> :()
[08:46] <brydenn> anyone know how to use KBFX very well?
[08:46] <brydenn> i need some help with that program
[08:47] <_martinh> my media disappeared... anyone knows what can happened?
[08:47] <_martinh> could happen... :P
[08:47] <brydenn> like your CD rom or what not disappeared?
[08:47] <_martinh> I know it is a very open question but...
[08:47] <_martinh> everything
[08:47] <_martinh> i mean when konqueror tries to go to media: whatever
[08:47] <brydenn> hmm
[08:47] <_martinh> it isn't there
[08:48] <brydenn> but your floppy is right?
[08:48] <_martinh> however, if I use file:/// it is there.
[08:48] <kronoz> hi, i need advice on POSSIBLY installing either kubuntu, kanotix or suse on a computer for a child
[08:48] <_martinh> I cannot umount them also I cannot get them by using the root user
[08:49] <_martinh> good question kronoz
[08:49] <_martinh> i am asking myself the same
[08:49] <brydenn> _martinh: all i know is that (k)ubuntu auto mounts devices like CD-ROMs etc
[08:49] <_martinh> now, fighting with kubuntu
[08:49] <brydenn> then when you take the CD out it unmouts itself
[08:50] <_martinh> hmm, i think it isn't the problem
[08:50] <_martinh> i mean, it was ok till i updated the distro
[08:50] <_martinh> the fstab is the same
[08:50] <kronoz> things, i need to know are will kubuntu recognise and integrated intel ethernet card (Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller) and Nvidia-geforce-5200MX
[08:50] <_martinh> i think kubuntu will
[08:50] <_martinh> but after installation, weird things happen
[08:51] <Nomad411> is it normal that apt-get update gives me this:  GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security
[08:51] <_martinh> yes, i read it is a repository problem
[08:51] <Nomad411> ok , thanks :)
[08:52] <Nomad411> kronoz: what kind of advice are you looking for?
[08:52] <Nomad411> kronoz: Are you familiar with edubuntu?
[08:52] <Nomad411> !edubuntu
[08:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[08:52] <kronoz> nomad: i think i'm gonna go with suse
[08:52] <kronoz> but thank you anyway
[08:52] <_martinh> yes, i have edubuntu
[08:52] <_martinh> is ok
[08:52] <Nomad411> Go with what you feel familiar and comfortable with :)
[08:52] <_martinh> now with kubuntu, things are weird
[08:53] <Nomad411> I hav elot sfo weird occurences lately too.
[08:53] <Nomad411> lot sof
[08:53] <Nomad411> arghhhhhhhh
[08:53] <Nomad411> lots of
[08:53] <_martinh> hehe
[08:53] <Nomad411> kronoz: Why Suse?  And do you mean buying Suse or OpenSuse?
[08:53] <Nomad411> if i may ask..
[08:53] <_martinh> hey, stop that parkingson! :P
[08:53] <_martinh> parkinson
[08:53] <_martinh> :D
[08:54] <Nomad411> shoot, there's one more worry I need.. LOL
[08:54] <kronoz> nomad: opensuse
[08:54] <_martinh> hmm
[08:54] <kronoz> because I have it burnt to disk, sax will help, and it is n00b friendly
[08:54] <_martinh> i didn't know that there was a brunch in suse
[08:56] <_martinh> branch...
[08:57] <_martinh> hmm, lets try opensuse...
[08:57] <Nomad411> good community for OpenSuse?
[08:58] <willvarfar> hello folks; I've just used Adept to install g++-4.0, but at my terminal window gcc and g++ are commands not found.  What might be wrong?
[08:59] <Nomad411> !gcc
[08:59] <ubotu> methinks gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[09:00] <Nomad411> is that how you installed it?
[09:00] <Nomad411> willvarfar: ?
[09:00] <gurumeditationer> !amd64
[09:00] <ubotu> gurumeditationer: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:00] <gurumeditationer> !x86-64
[09:00] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gurumeditationer
[09:01] <gurumeditationer> !x86-6
[09:01] <ubotu> gurumeditationer: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <gurumeditationer> !chroot
[09:01] <ubotu> I heard chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:01] <Nomad411> !64
[09:01] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[09:01] <Nomad411> lol
[09:01] <gurumeditationer> heh that's nuts
[09:02] <Nomad411> no, some bots have cats, better bots have grep and egrep.. ;)
[09:02] <vge> what does this mean? configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[09:02] <Nomad411> !libqt
[09:02] <ubotu> Nomad411: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:02] <jpatrick> vge: install libqt3-mt-dev
[09:02] <Nomad411> there
[09:02] <gurumeditationer> vge, what are you compiling?
[09:03] <vge> kuake 0.4
[09:03] <gurumeditationer> try ./configure -with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3
[09:03] <UFO> yes im going to change to debian...
[09:03] <gurumeditationer> pardon me, two -'s infront of that with
[09:03] <gurumeditationer> took me ages to figure that one out
[09:03] <vge> i have libqt3-mt-dev installed
[09:04] <willvarfar> Nomad411: I used Adept to install gcc and g++; Adept claims they are installed etc
[09:05] <vge> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[09:05] <vge> gurumeditationer: with your parameter
[09:06] <gurumeditationer> do you have the main g++ and gcc installed
[09:06] <vge> in a reverced order
[09:06] <vge> shoud be
[09:06] <gurumeditationer> like, if you've justinstalled g++-4.0 it won't be there
[09:06] <gurumeditationer> you need to use the plain g++ package as well, don't ask me why but that happened to me last night
[09:07] <_dave> how do you load KDE automaticly after installing?
[09:07] <gurumeditationer> willvarfar: you use g++-4.0 on the command line to use g++ v4
[09:08] <_dave> new to linux/Ubuntu
[09:08] <vge> hmm, whats the packetname for gc++?
[09:08] <gurumeditationer> how do you mean automatically? on boot?
[09:08] <_dave> yes on boot
[09:09] <gurumeditationer> on a command line type sudo kcontrol
[09:09] <gurumeditationer> then goto system admin-> login manager
[09:09] <_dave> cool thx
[09:09] <gurumeditationer> click on the convienance tab
[09:09] <gurumeditationer> and enable auto-login
[09:09] <_dave> thx again!
[09:10] <gurumeditationer> no bother
[09:10] <willvarfar> gurumeditationer:  thanks!
[09:11] <gurumeditationer> no problem dude
[09:11] <vge> hmm, where are the KDE headers installed :/
[09:12] <vge> ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 <-- this fails
[09:12] <gurumeditationer> try
[09:12] <jpatrick> vge: kdelibs4-dev
[09:13] <gurumeditationer> ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde
[09:13] <kkathman> vge do an apt-cache on kdelibs
[09:13] <vge> lets try
[09:15] <vge> kdelibs4-dev has "unresolvable debendencies"
[09:15] <gurumeditationer> that doesn't sound healthy
[09:15] <vge> yup
[09:16] <gurumeditationer> are you developing for kde4?
[09:16] <visik7> when I connect via vnc to kde session the cpu goes to 100%
[09:16] <vge> 3.5
[09:16] <visik7> wtf ?
[09:18] <vge> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/551629
[09:19] <gurumeditationer> that's wierd how it's called kdelibs4
[09:19] <c13> witch way should i install baghira ? sources or debain way
[09:20] <gurumeditationer> the debian way if you can get away with it I guess
[09:22] <_kkrizka> has someoen managed to install the koffice 1.5 packages?
[09:23] <_kkrizka> koffice-libs: Depends: libruby1.8 (>= 1.8.2-9ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[09:23] <_kkrizka> I only see libruby1.9
[09:24] <jpatrick> _kkrizka: probably won't be fixed coz it's beta
[09:25] <_kkrizka> oh well
[09:25] <vge> ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde <-- this didnt work neather
[09:25] <vge> arrgh
[09:26] <pm> do you know some address of a good proxy server?
[09:28] <jpatrick> vge:  ./configure --prefix=/usr
[09:29] <Howitzer> How can i see what nvidia drivers i have installed?
[09:29] <vge> i guess the main reason is that i cannot install "kdelibs4-dev"
[09:29] <Howitzer> i have the feeling the installation didn't work too well :x
[09:29] <Howitzer> since my pc lags when i make a dragbox on the desktop
[09:30] <pm> Howitzer, kinfocenter> OpenGL
[09:30] <jpatrick> vge: yep
[09:32] <Howitzer> what does there need to be in my xorg.conf?
[09:32] <JJasonJ20> Is there a channel for regular Ubuntu, not Kubuntu? Actually, Ubuntu-64 Breezy with Gnome is what I have.
[09:33] <vge> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/551656 <-- should i try this?
[09:33] <pm> Howitzer, if you want to use nvidia proprietary drivers you should change "nv" into "nvidia"
[09:33] <pm> as long as you've got it installed already
[09:34] <alexpi> hi everybody
[09:34] <pm> hi
[09:34] <JJasonJ20> I'm desperate! I just freed up 14 Gb of space and five minutes later the computer can't write to disk because it says it's full. NOT!!!
[09:35] <JJasonJ20> Now I can't even log in
[09:35] <JJasonJ20> Something is self-replicating and eating up my disk space
[09:37] <zblach> hi
[09:37] <zblach> quick question
[09:37] <alexpi> hi
[09:37] <zblach> when linux is booting, and you have the blue kubuntu logo and the progress bar beneath, is that modifyable?
[09:38] <zblach> (forgive my terminology, i'm noobly)
[09:38] <pm> yes, it is
[09:38] <zblach> mm, running kde 3.5
[09:38] <zblach> pm, :) yes, it's modifyable, but how?
[09:38] <pm> you can install upower for instance
[09:38] <zblach> ?
[09:39] <pm> in what way would you like to modify it/
[09:40] <zblach> well, i got this fairly neat photo i'd like displayed with the loading text overlayed.
[09:41] <pm> i don't know but i think ther shoul be some themes for usplash
[09:41] <gurumeditationer> upower? I thiought it was usplash?
[09:41] <zblach> usplash, it sounds more familiary
[09:41] <zblach> **-y
[09:41] <pm> there's something called upower sas well ;)
[09:41] <pm> as well
[09:42] <zblach> using usplash seems to terminate my computer, however
[09:43] <zblach> and my keyboard is sufficiently borked as to have disallowed Ctrl+Alt+F# to go to a terminal
[09:43] <pm> do you know some address of some proxy server?
[09:43] <zblach> nope, sorry
[09:44] <pm> my www doesn/t work and i need some proxy server
[09:45] <zblach> usplash has borked again. :(
[09:46] <gurumeditationer> where does usplash get it's image from?
[09:48] <ghb> I'm having some really annoying problems using Kubuntu. When I open the control manager and try to press the "Administrator Mode", I sometimes get a prompt to enter the password, and sometimes I don't. And sometimes it works after entering the password, and sometimes it doesn't. What's wrong? Can't it just work every time?
[09:48] <gurumeditationer> I don't know why it doesn't work properly, but the easiest thing to do is to just run kcontrol from a konsole with sudo
[09:49] <ghb> gurumeditationer: Oki, I'll try that. Thanks.
[09:49] <gurumeditationer> np
[09:50] <ghb> Well, that fixed some of the problems. Now on to the next one. I can't add a printer using kcontrol.
[09:51] <ghb> I go to where you edit your printers, but I can't do anything. I just get a little window saying "Initializing printers"... And I can't do anything.
[09:51] <ghb> Oh it's suppose to be "Initializing manager..."
[09:52] <RanX> sera
[09:52] <Vge> gotta love deleting important files \()/
[09:52] <RanX> hello nessun italiano
[09:52] <ghb> Ah great. Now the kcontrol hanged itself..
[09:53] <finalhazard> Hello again.
[09:54] <ghb> Even better -- now I can't open the kcontrol at all!
[09:55] <finalhazard> I'm having a problem configuring a windeco so I can make & install it.
[09:56] <ghb> Ummm.. How do I add a printer, text-mode style...?
[09:56] <deuce868> anyone know if there is a way to either mouse/keyboard shortcut kompose?
[09:57] <ghb> I keep getting these errors all the time: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-ghb" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[09:57] <ghb> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[09:57] <finalhazard> Everytime I try to configure it, it says it can't find ctrl.0 in the config.log file...
[09:57] <finalhazard> Anyone know what that means?
[09:58] <SirKillalot> if I put a CD in my tray I no longer get a popup in KDE and the CD is not shown in media://, what could be the problem?
[09:58] <SirKillalot> The cd is mounted.
[09:59] <Vge> note to self: "Dont remove Kubuntu-Desktop when KDE is running, bad things happen"
[10:00] <kkathman> actually removing kubuntu-desktop wont do a thing really, cuz its a metapackage :)
[10:00] <kkathman> unless you used aptitude to install and remove
[10:00] <Vge> ohh yes
[10:01] <Vge> libgamin0 that one i tought
[10:01] <kkathman> it usually just looks at you and says "ok"...and then comes right back :)
[10:01] <johnflux> Hey all!
[10:02] <JJasonJ20> Is there a virus that would self-replicate to fill up a hard drive?
[10:02] <MetaMorfoziS> hey:)
[10:02] <SirKillalot> how's the program called which recognizes new CDs or USBsticks?
[10:02] <finalhazard> I see you're all busy, so I won't bother you anymore. I'll figure it out on my own.
[10:02] <m_tadeu> hi...i don't seem to be able to mount an ext3 partition...whats wrong?
[10:05] <Vge> hmm, now that im installing kde again, how do i upgrade to 3.5.1?
[10:05] <kkathman> replace your 3.5 repo with 351
[10:05] <Vge> kk
[10:06] <kkathman> see kubuntu.org for details
[10:06] <Vge> jup
[10:07] <pm> will kubuntu always have the newest version of kde/
[10:07] <pm> ?
[10:10] <MetaMorfoziS> kubuntu always have the newest stable version
[10:10] <MetaMorfoziS> at he distribution time
[10:10] <MetaMorfoziS> for example the newest kubuntu is ~4months old
[10:10] <MetaMorfoziS> but the newest kde is 3.5.1
[10:10] <MetaMorfoziS> so it will coming with the next kubuntu...
[10:11] <MetaMorfoziS> but you can upgrade, check out kubunut.org for more inf.
[10:11] <pm> i mean there are always packages for kubuntu on kde servers with every new kde release
[10:11] <pm> willi it always be so?
[10:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know
[10:14] <os2mac> is there a thumb drive distro of Kubuntu?
[10:14] <tchize> little question, how do i set up the dpi for my kde?
[10:15] <MetaMorfoziS> why you want to set the dpi?
[10:15] <tchize> because it has a very bad value
[10:15] <MetaMorfoziS> i think you have bad resolution
[10:15] <MetaMorfoziS> no?
[10:15] <tchize> a 10pt police is visually huge :)
[10:16] <MetaMorfoziS> what is your really and what is your setted resolution?
[10:16] <tchize> 1280x1024 i think
[10:16] <MetaMorfoziS> go to kcontrol
[10:16] <MetaMorfoziS> peripherials
[10:16] <MetaMorfoziS> and screen or monitor
[10:16] <MetaMorfoziS> you can check your refresh rate and resolution
[10:16] <tchize> it says 1280x1024 :)
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> and your monitor?
[10:17] <tchize> what?
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> what is your monitor's size?
[10:17] <tchize> ho
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> what is your monitor's resolution?
[10:17] <tchize> 17''
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> in pixels
[10:17] <tchize> dunno
[10:17] <tchize> :)
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> lol:)
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> moment
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> is ther an app to ask it to your monittor
[10:17] <MetaMorfoziS> t-
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> you haven't got the monitor's manual?
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> or the bakcside of the monitor
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> nowhere a stick with these details?
[10:19] <tchize> well does it matter? i mean other oses display a 10pt font at a reasonable size :)
[10:19] <Vge>  little question, how do i set up the dpi for my kde? <-- there is a program to do that, just dont remember the name atm
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> or go to google... and find out your monitor's type
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ ok find it...
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> i think your resolution not good...
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> but i dunno
[10:20] <tchize> well you mean i should switch to smoething like 800x600? noway :)
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> no @ 17" monitors are below 1280*1024 and 1024*768
[10:21] <tchize> lol going to philips website crashes konqueror ^^
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> use firefox.)
[10:22] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox1.5
[10:22] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:22] <tchize> no problem, ff already installed
[10:23] <angasule> 1280x1024 = baaaad
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[10:23] <angasule> 1280x960 = gooood
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:23] <angasule> what's the @?
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> @ = at
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> my maniac
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:24] <angasule> ah, I think you were actually adding something :P
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> i think i'm understand this room's lines 80%:DD
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm hungarian
[10:24] <angasule> 1280 / 320 = 4
[10:24] <angasule> 960 / 320 = 3
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> 4 / 2 = 2
[10:24] <angasule> 1024 / 320 = 3.20000000000andsomething
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> and?
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[10:25] <angasule> 1280x960 is 4:3
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> and?:D
[10:25] <tchize> metaMorfozis: The docs about monitors states 'up to 1280x1024@60Hz
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not have any problems with 1280*1024
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> tchzie ok
[10:25] <angasule> 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1600x1200, all 4:3
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> the problem isn't about the resolution:)
[10:26] <angasule> it's a magic number! the wizard Shazam told me
[10:26] <tchize> as i said, it's the dpi :)
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> lol andred :)
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> yes tchize
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno:)
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> !resolution
[10:26] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> !dpi
[10:26] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ and google
[10:26] <angasule> 4:3 is a good idea if you use games and other junk who may care about making a square with all sides equal
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> 4:3.333333333333333 isn't have any problem with games and shapes:D
[10:27] <angasule> I remember the first time I rendered a square on a 1028x1024 screen, took me like 10 minutes to realize what the problem was :P
[10:27] <angasule> MetaMorfoziS: not if they are done properly, but come on, software, done properly? not even NASA!
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not understand you but i think it's not a problem:)
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> you can't change my tft's resolution:D
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> so that's all....
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> folks:)
[10:29] <angasule> MetaMorfoziS: ah, no, if you're in an LCD then just use the natural resolution
[10:29] <MeTa[BaTh] > yes, i have phisically 1280*1024 pixel
[10:29] <MeTa[BaTh] > so this is the only one looks good
[10:30] <angasule> !fonts
[10:30] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[10:30] <MeTa[BaTh] > the bigger occurs error
[10:30] <MeTa[BaTh] > the lower is nasty:)
[10:30] <MeTa[BaTh] > but i'm not have problem with it... it's nice, for me good.
[10:30] <angasule> yeah, it's a nice resolution, it's 17"?
[10:30] <MeTa[BaTh] > yes
[10:31] <angasule> hmm, nice :) I have a 17" too, but CRT
[10:31] <MeTa[BaTh] > it's a solarium?
[10:31] <angasule> a what?
[10:32] <MeTa[BaTh] > do you know what is solarium?
[10:32] <angasule> like a sunny backyard?
[10:32] <MeTa[BaTh] > uh so thisis a machine that makes people-s brown..
[10:33] <MeTa[BaTh] > with brutal gamma rays
[10:33] <angasule> oh, I have a very fashionable monitor tan :D
[10:33] <angasule> I'm too pale to be a vampire
[10:33] <MeTa[BaTh] > and makes skin crab
[10:33] <MeTa[BaTh] > uh i'm translated what is solarium yeah:D
[10:33] <MeTa[BaTh] > it's like an english homework:D
[10:34] <angasule> actually, I keep the screen pretty low, and frankly I don't worry much about a few thousand volts near my brain, I live in an industrial city
[10:34] <MeTa[BaTh] > :))
[10:35] <MeTa[BaTh] > nothere a now playing script for konversation?
[10:35] <MeTa[BaTh] > i want to annoy thousands of people:)
[10:36] <tchize> mm seems my monitor is returning strange values :) a 17'' is supposed to be ~337x270mm while my monitor returns 313x230 :s
[10:36] <MeTa[BaTh] > tchzie, the google is your friend?:)
[10:36] <MeTa[BaTh] > i'm can't help you:(
[10:36] <tchize> somehow :/
[10:37] <MeTa[BaTh] > i have problems only the resolution at the begining linux
[10:37] <MeTa[BaTh] > but i'm don't knows: space is the select key, when x asks me about my res.
[10:38] <MeTa[BaTh] > i'm only select the list the 1280*102 with the arrow keys, but not select it with * :) only hit enter...
[10:38] <whiteline> Boot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?
[10:38] <MeTa[BaTh] > anybody heard about kos?:D
[10:40] <Meta[foo] > ok i'm go to have a shower:) and re...
[10:40] <angasule> tchize: do you have a ruler?
[10:40] <tchize> nope, but i got somehow official 17" sizes
[10:41] <tchize> i tried to add a DisplaySize to xorg.conf to those values
[10:41] <angasule> heck, a difference of 40mm is easy to tell without a ruler
[10:44] <tchize> angasule: you have no idea how bad i am with notions of distance :)
[10:44] <whiteline> Boot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?
[10:45] <angasule> tchize: 40mm ~= three fingers
[10:45] <tchize> have you seen my fingers?
[10:45] <angasule> yes
[10:45] <tchize> maybe i could use a rambank to measure
[10:45] <angasule> bonne nuit, marseillai
[10:46] <angasule> hmm
[10:46] <marseillai> merci
[10:46] <jarlath> Does anyone know offhand if k3b can copy a DVD movie to a blank DVD as opposed to ripping it to an avi and burning that to CD?
[10:46] <tchize> ok width of monitor is 2 rambank and 1 finger
[10:46] <tchize> :)
[10:46] <angasule> do you have sheets of paper? A4, letter?
[10:47] <angasule> jarlath: it can copy a DVD, yes
[10:47] <tchize> yes , 1 A4 length + 1 finger
[10:47] <angasule> jarlath: look in the 'tool' menu, second option
[10:47] <tchize> this mean a A4 is worth 2 rambanks
[10:47] <jarlath> thanks angasule.
[10:47] <angasule> A4 paper size, an international standard paper size (210297 mm)
[10:48] <tchize> :)
[10:49] <angasule> if you have two sheets of A4, you can easily measure 210, 297 and 87mm, and if you can fold paper, the sky is the limit :P
[10:49] <tchize> :)
[10:50] <divansantana> Does any1 know what does free as in beer means???
[10:50] <angasule> the BBC wants to tax pcs because one may watch tv on them? it's easier to tax eyes
[10:51] <tchize> this mean you can get drank of gpl
[10:51] <angasule> of course, blind people sometimes have eyes, but can't use them, and there's the issue whether one-eyed people should pay the full tax or not
[10:51] <angasule> divansantana: free as in beer = no money required
[10:52] <jarlath> divansantana: as opposed to freedom (free speech)
[10:52] <divansantana> but why beer??
[10:52] <angasule> divansantana: because beer is good?
[10:53] <angasule> at least for some people, I don't like it, it's cold pee
[10:53] <divansantana> haha agree
[10:53] <tchize> angasule: come to belgium, you will discover what real beer is
[10:53] <angasule> tchize: *warm* pee?
[10:53] <whiteline> Boot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?
[10:53] <angasule> I don't alcoholic beverages
[10:53] <tchize> beers have lots of different tastes
[10:53] <angasule> my only drug is caffeine
[10:54] <jarlath> tchize: I was in belgium at christmas. Cherry beers is the best!
[10:54] <tchize> :) kriek
[10:54] <jarlath> thats the one :)
[10:54] <jarlath> Its a good job you cant get it here :)
[10:54] <aboapri> hey has anyone got tuxsaver to install in kubuntu?
[10:56] <angasule> tuxsaver? is that a penguin carrying a minigun or what?
[10:56] <tchize> angasule: no but i like your way of thinking
[10:56] <jarlath> angasule: It says it cannot burn encrypted dvds, but I do have libdvdcss2 installed. Is it possible to tell k3b to use that?
[10:56] <Jackel003> hey can anyone help me out?
[10:57] <angasule> jarlath: I don't even have a DVD drive, so I have no idea
[10:57] <jarlath> angasule: hehe, okay.
[10:57] <angasule> Jackel003: not unless you tell us your problem
[10:57] <Jackel003> lol
[10:58] <tchize> i think it's a legal problem to burn encrypted dvd :)
[10:58] <Jackel003> I can;t boot into my desktop, I just get a black console screen that tells me to login
[10:58] <angasule> tchize: only in the free world :P
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> your x or your kdm has crashed...
[10:58] <angasule> Jackel003: can you log into the console screen?
[10:58] <Jackel003> yes
[10:59] <angasule> Jackel003: can you 'startx'?
[10:59] <Jackel003> haven't tried that one :P
[10:59] <tchize> (my mother was thinking startx is a movie)
[10:59] <Jackel003> brb ill try it
[11:00] <metalhedd> I can't install the kde-devel package, it says it will "BREAK" something, but doesn't say what
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo apt-get check
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo apt-get clean
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[11:00] <tchize> sudo apt-get remove init ?:p
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[11:01] <MetaMorfoziS> c-c you're bad:)
[11:01] <tchize> just kiding HEY DON4T DO ... (too late :( )
[11:01] <aboapri> tuxsaver is supposedly similar to johnny castaway, only, with a penguin.
[11:01] <MetaMorfoziS> :DD
[11:01] <metalhedd> I'm not that dumb :)
[11:01] <tchize> what is jhony castaway?
[11:01] <whiteline> Boot: loading /install/vmlinuz loading /install/initrd.gzisolinuxdisk error 01, ax=42a1 drive 9f <- can somebody help me understand what that means?
[11:02] <aboapri> I miss johnny castaway, I installed bochs just so I could try to run johnny castaway in a window, but it wastes resources too much.
[11:02] <MetaMorfoziS> !j2re
[11:02] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:02] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[11:02] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:02] <aboapri> johnny castaway is the greatest creensaver ever, an old windows ss.
[11:02] <tchize> whiteline: could it be the file don't exist?`
[11:03] <tchize> k time to sleep bye alll
[11:04] <Jackel003> ok startx did not work
[11:04] <MetaMorfoziS> bye
[11:05] <MetaMorfoziS> oh he's quited...
[11:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm isntall java and go away...
[11:05] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[11:06] <Jackel003> so I still can't boot into the desktop
[11:08] <Jackel003> I get "Fatal: No Screens Found"
[11:09] <angasule> your graphics card wasn't detected, I guess
[11:10] <Jackel003> Well I detected it when i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:10] <Jackel003> it*
[11:11] <angasule> what font package should I install to get IPA support?
[11:12] <angasule> and do I have to restart anything to see new fonts?
[11:13] <angasule> !fonts
[11:13] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[11:14] <scofmb> Hi
[11:14] <scofmb> i just install kubuntu.. been a long gentoo user...
[11:14] <MetaMorfoziS> hi
[11:14] <angasule> scofmb: been there, quite a change
[11:14] <scofmb> i can't ping my other machine.. i tryed ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1; ping 192.168.0.2
[11:14] <scofmb> but i can't ping my other machine.. the ip is 192.168.0.2
[11:14] <scofmb> what i'm doing wrong?
[11:16] <marseillai> Riddell: i've got this bug-report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/30579 and someone just told me that hibernation work well with a default installation of ubuntu (gnome) so the bug must be a kubuntu-bug! where ou what bug-report i must do ?
[11:16] <angasule> scofmb: did you try using the GUI for configuring the network?
[11:17] <scofmb> yep..
[11:17] <scofmb> it didn't work
[11:18] <Jackel003> How can i fix the "no screens" error?
[11:18] <brydenn> how do i edit the repository list in Kate?
[11:18] <angasule> scofmb: you've done the ifconfig thing on gentoo? read man, etc?
[11:18] <scofmb> in the gui its enable.. and the ip its 192.168.0.1
[11:18] <Jackel003> I tried confifuring the xserver but that doesnt work :(
[11:18] <MetaMorfoziS> bye all
[11:18] <MetaMorfoziS> good nigh
[11:18] <MetaMorfoziS> t
[11:18] <bimberi> brydenn: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:19] <brydenn> thanks bimberi
[11:19] <bimberi> brydenn: yw :)
[11:19] <scofmb> angasule: yep.. i used to have my network working on gentoo.. and all i had to do at first (after i got ping, i do the routing stuff)
[11:20] <scofmb> but i can't make it work on kubuntu... kubuntu is difficult :(       i don't know where the config files or how the init script works
[11:20] <angasule> hmm, I don't know, I don't remember any of the network stuff, it's rare for it to give any trouble
[11:20] <scofmb> never been a debian user myself.. so i'm kind of blind here
[11:20] <angasule> scofmb: it doesn't have 'magic' config files like suse, so the usual files are fine
[11:22] <scofmb> i do a its cat /etc/network/interfaces.. and everything seems to be right... but i can't ping my other machine.. :(
[11:23] <angasule> scofmb: do you have any other OS installed? can you reboot and check nothing is broken, just in case?
[11:24] <scofmb> yep, i also have windows 2003... and i check it.. and everything is ok
[11:26] <scofmb> in the gui conf i have ip:192.168.0.1 netmask:255.255.255.0 broadcast:192.168.0.255
[11:26] <scofmb> and its exacly the same i used to have in my gentoo (i still have my gentoo on another hd.. so i'm watching the config files)
[11:26] <SirKillalot> where are the KDE icons saved?
[11:28] <Jackel003> Is anyone here experinced with ati cards in linux?
[11:29] <Jackel003> I can't get mine working :(
[11:29] <angasule> !ati
[11:29] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:30] <Jackel003> that binarydriver one didn't help
[11:30] <brydenn> how do i get root access so i can copy something to the /etc/ directory?
[11:30] <Jackel003> I get errors when trying to startx
[11:30] <brydenn> through Konqueror
[11:30] <Jackel003> even after i have configured xserver
[11:31] <angasule> how do I force konqueror to load the new fonts?
[11:31] <brydenn> bimberi do you know how to get root privillages in Konqueror so i can copy something ot the /etc/ directory?
[11:32] <angasule> brydenn: in a konsole you could do 'sudo su' (and use *your* password)
[11:32] <tafsen> Do I get mp3 support in Kubuntu in the same way as in Ubuntu?
[11:32] <brydenn> yah but i really dont want to use the Konsole heh
[11:32] <brydenn> i'd rather just use Konqueror
[11:32] <angasule> you could also run 'kdesudo konqueror' to get a konqueror window that's owned by root (any windows 'born' from that one will be owned by root, too)
[11:32] <brydenn> sweet
[11:32] <brydenn> thanks
[11:33] <angasule> np, although I'm sure there's a better way
[11:33] <bimberi> brydenn: you can run it as root with 'kdesu konqueror' (but it's a great idea), or use the command line itself, getting root privs like angasule said (or with 'sudo -i').
[11:33] <angasule> brb
[11:33] <bimberi> *it's not a great idea
[11:33] <bimberi> lol - that was a bad one
[11:35] <angasule> dammit, how do I get konqueror to load fonts?
[11:49] <sebastian> hey
[11:49] <sebastian> tell me
[11:49] <sebastian> is there something like a karaoke plugin for any of the linux audio players?
[11:52] <jarlath> Has anyone experienced problems with amaroK audio "skipping" when you do something like launch an app or move a windows?
[11:53] <jarlath> Ive tried both the gstreamer and xine engines. Same problem.
[11:53] <jarlath> But kaffeine doesnt suffer from this.
[11:53] <Vge> hmm, if HP has made a hoary version of ubuntu where allmost all of the gadgets work on my laptop, should i use it and upgrade it to breezy and KDE, or use Kubuntu breezy existing packet?
[11:55] <Vge> any ideas?