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thewama | do we have a flight 4 date? | 12:36 |
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ogra | nope ... but likely next week some time ... | 12:37 |
thewama | yeah I figured | 12:37 |
thewama | any suggestions on how I can pitch in? | 12:38 |
thewama | I know my code but need some direction | 12:39 |
ogra | try #ubuntu-motu :) | 12:39 |
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thewama | alrighty thanks! | 12:41 |
ogra | :) | 12:41 |
thewama | what about getting into gnome or xorg devel? | 12:42 |
thewama | package-work sounds like a good place to start, but how would I get into the core stuff? | 12:42 |
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HiddenWolf | thewama: for ubuntu the starting point is motu. there is a gnome-hackers on gimpnet. xorg I don't know. | 12:43 |
ogra | thats rather something you should ask upstream (gnome.org or x.org) we mostly do packaging | 12:43 |
thewama | makes sense, I'll look into MOTU for now | 12:43 |
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MisterN | n8 | 01:24 |
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hunger | What's up with launchpad? | 02:04 |
HiddenWolf | hunger: hardware migration, all ubuntu sites are down | 02:05 |
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dabaR | Does anyone know how to program a valid http cookie? | 02:39 |
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jdong | Firefox had another speed regression... | 03:11 |
jdong | from 1.5.dfsg-4ubuntu6 -> 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu3, the rendering speed was cut in half | 03:12 |
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Chipzz | jdong: rtf changelog :) | 03:50 |
Chipzz | pango is enabled by default since 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1 | 03:51 |
Chipzz | zless /usr/share/doc/firefox/changelog.Debian.gz | 03:51 |
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jdong | so pango slows down Firefox? is that something that's going to be resolved before Dapper's release? | 04:52 |
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Amaranth | jdong: it's something that will be solved Q2 2007 | 05:21 |
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Amaranth | jdong: when gecko 1.9 + firefox 3.0 is out | 05:21 |
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crimsun | elmo: please sync easychem and plotdrop from Sid, overriding Ubuntu changes, thanks | 06:07 |
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cfk | file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html says "or chat with the community on Freenode IRC Channel: #ubuntu" - i think that should be a link that fires up the default chat cilent - where do I post sugestions like this? | 07:17 |
crimsun | cfk: for that issue, #ubuntu-doc | 07:21 |
LaserJock | cfk: I think the doc team | 07:21 |
LaserJock | crimsun: darn it, you beat me too it ;-) | 07:21 |
cfk | okee dokee - thanks | 07:22 |
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sivang | morning all | 09:06 |
nictuku | hi | 09:06 |
crimsun | elmo: also, please sync advi and autoclass from Sid, thanks. | 09:08 |
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Coyctecm | morning | 09:46 |
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drfalkor | anyone knows about a mirror I can upload my gimp-2.3.7 .deb file ? | 10:51 |
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mdke | anyone else seeing bad signatures on breezy-security? | 11:10 |
mdke | W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 11:10 |
mdke | i see it on both my breezy systems | 11:10 |
jsgotangco | yep | 11:15 |
jsgotangco | confirmed | 11:15 |
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jsgotangco | i thought they were moving to a new datacenter | 11:15 |
mdke | yes, maybe that was the cause | 11:16 |
jsgotangco | planet used to 404 a few hours ago | 11:16 |
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mdke | mpt, any movement on AboutUbuntu? will it be ready for dapper you think? | 12:49 |
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sivang | mdke: it probably would, it's a very simple application that I think all the pieces are already there. | 12:55 |
sivang | mdke: (I set with mpt and saw this POC app on his lappie at UBZ) | 12:55 |
mdke | sivang, i'm not sure any progress has been made since UBZ though, I hope so | 12:56 |
mdke | damn, i don't get mounted volumes on my desktop with dapper anymore. is that a conscious decision? it means that I can't unmount anything anymore | 12:56 |
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jdong | mdke: you can still use the Computer browser | 01:36 |
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\sh | elmo / Znarl: any ETA for accessing u.u.c again? | 01:40 |
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Lathiat | the email said iirc? | 01:41 |
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\sh | Lathiat: saturday 22 UTC + 6h == overdue :) | 01:41 |
Lathiat | heh | 01:42 |
Lathiat | right | 01:42 |
ogra | i guess its only a DNS delay, noit all nameservers have catched up the change yet | 01:46 |
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mdke | jdong, oh thanks | 01:58 |
mdke | jdong, its still not discoverable enough tho | 01:59 |
mdke | :) | 02:00 |
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MisterN | hi | 02:14 |
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zakame | hello devs :) | 02:53 |
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Coyctecm | anyone have pci-e radeon x600 ? | 02:56 |
Coyctecm | how much you get fps with glxgears ? | 02:57 |
Mithrandir | Coyctecm: glxgears is not a benchmark. | 02:57 |
Coyctecm | no not, but just thinking I only get ~1400 | 02:58 |
Mithrandir | it's not a benchmark, the number is meaningless | 02:58 |
Coyctecm | with nvidia 6600gt agp I get about 3500 | 02:58 |
Mithrandir | you can check whether you have accellerated 3d by looking at the output of glxinfo | 02:58 |
Coyctecm | yes, not that | 02:59 |
Coyctecm | doom 3 runs fine with 1280x1024 :) | 02:59 |
Mithrandir | or test something which tests your 3d performance, like doom | 02:59 |
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mdke | jdub, whiprush, the tabs on the fridge are appearing at the bottom of the window, rather than on the top bar. can you ping me when it's fixed, I wanna take a screenshot of the fridge for the flash intro | 03:07 |
zakame | is there any work done for NetworkAuthentication? I notice it is approved, but deferred for Dapper :/ | 03:11 |
carl | dapper installer partitioner - tryed to span 2 drives with one LV volume - I had problems getting it setup, and watever I did setup isn't booting - "couldn't find all volumes" | 03:13 |
carl | I'll do the install again, wondering how I can document what the resulting partition config looks like | 03:13 |
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carl | once I am done wiht that step, is there a deb-conf like file that has my partitioning choices? | 03:24 |
mdke | jdub, whiprush, interestingly, the tabs work in dapper epiphany, but not dapper firefox *shrugs* | 03:25 |
Kinnison | mako: ping? | 03:25 |
carl | duh - should I even be able to setup / on a LV? | 03:27 |
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MisterN | cu | 03:42 |
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mdke | ugh, something is spamming -devel mailing list | 03:46 |
xhaker | it's getting tagged atleast | 03:50 |
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sistpoty | elmo: please sync gnustep-make (1.11.2-2) from unstable, no ubuntu specific version present. | 04:28 |
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mantas_ | doko, are you online ? | 05:03 |
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ogra | hrm ... upload.ubuntu.com still refuses connections | 05:23 |
pietrus | hi, is it ok to ask that a package be synched from debian if it is not in ubuntu yet? | 05:24 |
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sistpoty | pietrus: until FeatureFreeze it is ok.. what package are you talking about? | 05:29 |
pietrus | tomcat5 | 05:29 |
sistpoty | pietrus: tomcat5 is in universe | 05:30 |
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pietrus | sorry | 05:31 |
pietrus | i was using packages.ubuntu.com and it defaults to breezy | 05:31 |
raphink | pietrus: if you're on breezy, you have to know that breezy is frozen | 05:34 |
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ogra | elmo, Znarl, thanks (to whoever switched ftp back on) | 05:35 |
sistpoty | thanks from me as well ;) | 05:36 |
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xhaker | hehe.. ogra is fast..ubuntu-meta there already | 05:41 |
ogra | i produced my 3rd coaster iso due to the inputattach shuffling already :( ... this upload should finally solve it | 05:42 |
mako | Kinnison: hey there | 05:43 |
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MisterN | re | 06:06 |
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carl | dapper setup, another attempt at LV, install lilo step fail. what files can I post that will document what happened? | 06:27 |
HiddenWolf | why does lvm use lilo at all? | 06:34 |
HiddenWolf | I've been using grub and lvm since warty | 06:34 |
CarlFK | good q | 06:34 |
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CarlFK | can / be on a LV? | 06:34 |
ogra | sure | 06:34 |
HiddenWolf | since breezy afaik | 06:34 |
CarlFK | this is the first time playing with it - the plan was /boot on sda1, swap on sda2, / on sda3 and sdb1 using LV - after fighting with the partitioner and a few reboots, I finally got it to install, but then it wouldn't boot. so tried the install again, now it won't even install | 06:38 |
HiddenWolf | I have /dev/sda1 /boot - /dev/mapper / root /swap /home | 06:39 |
ogra | ogra@aleph:~$ mount|grep ^\/ | 06:39 |
ogra | /dev/mapper/vg0-lvol0 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) | 06:39 |
ogra | /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) | 06:39 |
ogra | /dev/mapper/vg1-lvol1 on /var type ext3 (rw) | 06:39 |
ogra | works wondeful ... | 06:39 |
HiddenWolf | ogra: is suspend/hibernate supposed to work on a desktop system with swap on lvm? | 06:40 |
ogra | (using grub btw) | 06:40 |
ogra | HiddenWolf, good question ... never tried | 06:40 |
HiddenWolf | since that's the default setup nowadays | 06:40 |
CarlFK | HiddenWolf: I'll let you know if I could get it to boot ;) | 06:40 |
ogra | HiddenWolf, suspend shouldnt be any issue ... | 06:41 |
ogra | since thats to ram anyway | 06:41 |
ogra | i didnt try hibernate with lvm ... | 06:41 |
HiddenWolf | hm, I can't get either to work for me. | 06:41 |
ogra | i doubt thats a lvm issue for suspend | 06:42 |
HiddenWolf | the nvidia driver might be it. | 06:42 |
ogra | oh, indeed | 06:43 |
ogra | nvidia is known to break suspend/hibernate | 06:43 |
HiddenWolf | anything else? | 06:43 |
ogra | its pretty sure the nvidia driver ... | 06:43 |
ogra | try switching to nv ... | 06:43 |
HiddenWolf | Hm. I will in a bit. Watching extreme home makeover now | 06:44 |
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CarlFK | what will it take to get scp available in the installer? | 06:49 |
HiddenWolf | Carlk, you should ask kamion | 06:51 |
CarlFK | I think he's sleeping ;) | 06:54 |
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ogra | CarlFK, its early sunday afternoon ... i rather guess he's in weekend mode :) | 06:56 |
CarlFK | oh yeah... weekend.. | 06:56 |
sivang | ogra: aleph in in hebrew, you know ? :) | 06:57 |
ogra | sivang, yup | 06:57 |
sivang | ogra: so where did you coin its name from? :) | 06:57 |
ogra | its also a wonderful short story by jorge luis borges | 06:57 |
sivang | ogra: it is? then I gotta read it sometime soon :) | 06:58 |
ogra | yup :) | 06:58 |
sivang | ogra: what is it about? | 06:58 |
ogra | the aleph is a point in space that unites all times and spaces in a single point in this story ... | 06:58 |
sivang | I was also surprised George Kantor used the tem "aleph ephes" to describe the first order of infinity magnitue :-) | 06:59 |
ogra | i found that matches a central server of my former comapny quite well ... this machine exists since 8 years ... | 06:59 |
sivang | ogra: ah, figures - | 06:59 |
ogra | and was the center of my world for years | 07:00 |
MisterN | sivang: Georg Cantor is the way wikipedia spells it | 07:01 |
sivang | MisterN: then they are proibably wrong :) | 07:01 |
sivang | sorry, | 07:01 |
sivang | then /me/ is probably wrong | 07:01 |
sivang | ogra: ah, that figures. Aleph is a symbol for beginningness, for genesis, for a common point | 07:01 |
MisterN | sivang: i bothered to search because in my memory this was a german not english / french mathematician ;) | 07:02 |
ogra | yup | 07:02 |
sivang | MisterN: According to my former math professor, he was hungerian , which is proibably more close to germen then english spelling | 07:02 |
MisterN | sivang: well he was born in st. petersburg so your professor's not entirely wrong and the description "deutscher Mathematiker" is not entirely correct :) | 07:03 |
sivang | MisterN: is this the st. petersburg that's currentyl in russia? or are there two of them? | 07:04 |
MisterN | sivang: probably in russia. | 07:04 |
tseng | Hungarian | 07:05 |
sivang | tseng: ? | 07:05 |
MisterN | tseng: ? | 07:06 |
tseng | he was hungerian , | 07:06 |
tseng | which is proibably more close to germen then english spelling | 07:06 |
MisterN | well in words hungarian is different from anything | 07:06 |
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sivang | tseng: ah, thanks :) but weirdly, I am searching google, and there there are a couple of stories that explain he had been living in germeny and was born in russia, any useful pointer to contradict that? | 07:07 |
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tseng | sivang: Hungary is right next to germany and they share the language | 07:08 |
tseng | germany isnt that old as an official nation | 07:08 |
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MisterN | tseng: WHAT? | 07:10 |
MisterN | hungary does NOT share the language | 07:10 |
ogra | hungary and austria were one nation once ... but they dont share a language | 07:11 |
tseng | MisterN: mmm but austria does? | 07:11 |
tseng | right | 07:11 |
tseng | they split in 1919 | 07:11 |
MisterN | germany and france once were a nation. but that's LONG ago | 07:12 |
tseng | after this guy was already dead | 07:12 |
ogra | MisterN, the K&K dynasty isnt *that* long ago | 07:12 |
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MisterN | ogra: reread my sentence | 07:12 |
MisterN | charlemagne is long ago | 07:12 |
ogra | yup | 07:13 |
MisterN | or rather: karl der groe *heh* | 07:13 |
ogra | heh | 07:13 |
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tseng | i dont think that was unicode | 07:13 |
ogra | & might be ... | 07:13 |
ogra | surely are | 07:14 |
tseng | mm ogra's are | 07:14 |
MisterN | http://smartin.bol.ucla.edu/caledonia/images/map-europe.gif <- old card | 07:14 |
MisterN | mine are unicde: | 07:15 |
sivang | ogra: hungerian and germen I thikn have some stuff common, but are mostly different lanugages, right? | 07:15 |
ogra | i think hungarian is nearer to polish, russian or other eastern languages | 07:16 |
ogra | but the north of hungary might well speak an austrian slang ... | 07:17 |
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sivang | ah | 07:18 |
MisterN | hungarian isn't even an indoeuropean language | 07:18 |
MisterN | and it seems it's not like russian but like finnish | 07:18 |
ogra | oh, i'd have thought its slavian based | 07:19 |
sivang | MisterN: the weirdest thing for me in hungerian, is that some of the words sound close to arabic / turkish prnounciation | 07:19 |
sivang | MisterN: (that's what I could spot out when people are talking it) | 07:19 |
sivang | other then that, I don't understand anything although I've heared it a lot as a child :) | 07:19 |
MisterN | sivang: how comes? | 07:20 |
sivang | MisterN: my late grandmother used to speak hungerian. | 07:21 |
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sivang | ogra: do you know your way around threads in python using thread.start_new_thread and locks ? | 07:26 |
ogra | nope | 07:26 |
ogra | i never did thread programming in python | 07:27 |
sivang | ah okay. I have strage prerformance penalty compared to regular non threaded code that does the same on the threaded version, was hoping for an expert advice :) | 07:27 |
ogra | sorry, no threading expert :) | 07:28 |
sivang | ogra: okay, I need mvo to come online and talk to him probably | 07:28 |
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CarlFK | sivang: not that I know squat about anything, but a friend has been looking at the Twisted framework, which sounds like it does threading - maybe? | 07:31 |
sivang | CarlFK: I'd have to first look at it to know, but I thought it had something to do with web applications no? | 07:31 |
CarlFK | apparently you don't understand the depth of my "don't know squat" ;) | 07:32 |
CarlFK | it came up when someone else was looking to "communicate with other processes via TCP/IP" and Twisted came up | 07:33 |
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khermans | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/31242 | 07:34 |
Ubugtu | malone bug 31242 in Ubuntu "network-admin "double-configure" problem when choosing a preset location and then hitting OK" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 07:34 |
khermans | why can't i properly choose a package name in bugzilla? malone has bugs? | 07:35 |
khermans | since i could not, i only filed in the general "UBUNTU" package bug | 07:35 |
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CarlFK | where did /var/log/debian-installer/ go? | 07:47 |
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CarlFK | how can I dump the VT1 screen to a file? | 07:53 |
CarlFK | from the setup's VT2 | 07:54 |
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lemsto | is initNG included in dapper? | 08:10 |
lemsto | or for dapper++? | 08:10 |
siretart | hi! | 08:12 |
siretart | lemsto: not dapper. it might be considered for dapper+1 | 08:13 |
ogra | there is a spec for such an implementation on launchpad ... | 08:13 |
ogra | but it doesnt target initng afaik | 08:13 |
ogra | search for streamlined-boot | 08:14 |
CarlFK | in the setup, cat /dev/vcs4 gives me what is on VT4, but /dev/vcs1 doesn't give me whats on VT1 - any clue how I get what is on VT1? | 08:14 |
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lemsto | siretart, ok, thx | 08:15 |
lemsto | ogra, streamlined-boot is a similar project as initNG? | 08:20 |
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lemsto | s/as/to :D | 08:20 |
ogra | initng is only an attempt to do stuff automated a human will do better ... | 08:20 |
ogra | so the idea is to do the same, but without initng as i understood Keybuk who is responsible for the spec | 08:21 |
ogra | if we choose something automated, its more likely to be adopted from solaris afaik | 08:21 |
ogra | but dont quote me on that, i had only a short talk with Keabuk about it | 08:22 |
ogra | *Keybuk | 08:22 |
lemsto | will it be possible to launch simultenaously 2 services with streamlined-boot? | 08:22 |
ogra | yup | 08:22 |
lemsto | k | 08:22 |
ogra | more than two even ... | 08:23 |
lemsto | hehe | 08:23 |
lemsto | thank you! now ill try to find some info... | 08:23 |
ogra | :) | 08:23 |
lemsto | (and its planed for dapper??) | 08:23 |
sivang | ogra: aren't we already running gdm login while other services are starting? | 08:24 |
ogra | sivang, yup | 08:24 |
ogra | but there is still a lot room for optimization | 08:24 |
sivang | indeed. | 08:24 |
HiddenWolf | ogra: for dapper still? | 08:25 |
ogra | HiddenWolf, ls /etc/rc2.d/ | 08:25 |
ogra | gdm starts at 13 .... very early | 08:26 |
HiddenWolf | ogra: noted, but you said "a lot of room for improvement" | 08:26 |
HiddenWolf | ogra: so I'm wondering "will dapper get faster yet" | 08:26 |
ogra | not for dapper according to the devlopment status streamlined-boot is deferred | 08:26 |
HiddenWolf | Hm, probably a wise choice. :) | 08:27 |
ogra | see the weekly update JaneW sends to the list... | 08:27 |
HiddenWolf | yeah, forgot to read that one this week. | 08:27 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg, you promised | 08:36 |
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Treenaks | HiddenWolf: ??? | 08:37 |
HiddenWolf | Treenaks: he sent an email to -devel earlier that he was uploading xgl packages | 08:37 |
ogra | bah | 08:38 |
HiddenWolf | And I'm out of weed, so I need crack. :P | 08:38 |
ogra | HiddenWolf, arent you in .nl ? | 08:38 |
HiddenWolf | ogra: yeah. :) | 08:38 |
ogra | there should be some open coffes shop ... just go out and find it :P | 08:38 |
Treenaks | HiddenWolf: call the local crack dealer ;) | 08:38 |
HiddenWolf | ogra: it's sucky weather, and a 10 minute walk. :) | 08:39 |
ogra | lol | 08:39 |
HiddenWolf | Treenaks: that'd be my roomie, but he's out for the weekend. | 08:39 |
Treenaks | HiddenWolf: 2 words: supply management | 08:39 |
HiddenWolf | Treenaks: please, that's one of my subjects this term. :) | 08:40 |
HiddenWolf | I'll stick to beer. | 08:40 |
HiddenWolf | tonight, at least | 08:40 |
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siretart | how do I check which conffile from a package got changed? | 09:02 |
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nictuku | hmm I could not search in packages.ubuntu.com, is there a python ssl implementation package in main? | 09:51 |
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thierry | nictuku : for wich distribution, and why can't you search on packages.ubuntu.com | 09:54 |
thierry | ? | 09:54 |
nictuku | i could not search 'python ssl' in the packages description | 09:54 |
nictuku | Error: keyword not valid or missing | 09:54 |
nictuku | only single words | 09:55 |
nictuku | thierry, dapper prefereably | 09:55 |
nictuku | my project: https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/nwu/trac.cgi/wiki | 09:56 |
nictuku | i forgot that it would be better not to depend on universe packages | 09:56 |
thierry | nictuku : don't know... sorry | 09:57 |
nictuku | and m2crypto is on universe in dapper too =/ | 09:57 |
nictuku | thank you | 09:57 |
nictuku | found. python2.4-pyopenssl | 09:58 |
r0bby | I love how people can read | 10:01 |
Coyctecm | damn one finnish irc channel... big flame war that ubuntu doesn't do nothing "own" just a ugly fork of debian... | 10:01 |
Coyctecm | stupid | 10:01 |
Spastjeh | :) | 10:01 |
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Coyctecm | I think ubuntu makes debian usable ;) | 10:03 |
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Coyctecm | damn this make me nervous :D | 10:05 |
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Coyctecm | just curious where are you from? | 10:06 |
Coyctecm | finland | 10:06 |
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lemsto | france | 10:15 |
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CarlFK | if I am having trouble installing on LV, is this the place to report it: https://launchpad.net/products/partconf ? | 10:35 |
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jk- | Riddell: ping ? | 10:55 |
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Riddell | jk-: hi | 10:57 |
jk- | Riddell: hiya. just had someone report a dep problem with the kopete meanwhile package. | 10:58 |
jk- | apparently it's depending on meanwhile 0.4.x ? | 10:58 |
jk- | (i don't have a dapper install handy, sorry :( ) | 10:58 |
Riddell | libmeanwhile1 (>= 1.0.0) | 10:59 |
jk- | oh, cool. | 10:59 |
jk- | maybe his repos aren't set up correctly. | 10:59 |
jk- | cheers! :) | 10:59 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: that mail you sent to -devel about uploading xgl packages, is that still going to happen? | 11:02 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: lots of people begging, moaning and willing to get it from anywhere (and mess up their systems)... | 11:02 |
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Riddell | jk-: yep, installs here fine in dapper | 11:03 |
jk- | Riddell: awesome :) | 11:03 |
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MisterN | n8 | 11:13 |
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siretart | wow. seb128 is rocking malone.. | 11:43 |
lucas | siretart: where ? | 11:43 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Soon | 11:46 |
siretart | lucas: I'm watching the mailinglist for bugs in main | 11:46 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: how will you solve the patches to mesa and such? | 11:46 |
HiddenWolf | just wondering about the ubuntu-situation, after spending a time watching a gentoo-buff trying to get it to work | 11:47 |
HiddenWolf | And telling a half-dozen people to wait a bit before compiling today. :P | 11:47 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: We already have the Mesa patches in slightly older form | 11:49 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: Anyway, very cool that you are taking time to sort it out. I won't bug you further. | 11:49 |
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ogra | CarlFK, rather take it here ... | 11:54 |
CarlFK | so.. how can I grab a screen shot of an installer error message? | 11:54 |
ogra | there is already a screencapture from tty1 recorded in the installer log | 11:54 |
CarlFK | no way... | 11:54 |
ogra | sure | 11:54 |
CarlFK | which log ? | 11:55 |
ogra | i sadly cant remember the right name .. but its in /var/log/installer | 11:55 |
CarlFK | leme lookie | 11:56 |
CarlFK | thre is no var/log/installer | 11:56 |
CarlFK | nor var/log/debian-installer (which was there in breezy) | 11:57 |
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ogra | CarlFK, wait for Kamion, he'll be able to tell you tomorrow ... but in any case there is a complete capture of tty1 that you can replay ... looks quite funny | 11:58 |
ogra | (unless it was dropped recently) | 11:58 |
CarlFK | replay? thats awesome | 11:58 |
ogra | (which i doubt) | 11:58 |
CarlFK | I would hope not | 11:58 |
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