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| Hobbsee | morning all | 12:25 |
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| Riddell | morning Hobbsee | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | :D hi Riddell | 12:27 |
| Hobbsee | there are other people in the land of awake! | 12:27 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...there are lots of people asking for yakuake in #kubuntu | 12:51 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yakuake is in breezy | 01:01 |
| Hobbsee | i think you might mean in dapper | 01:01 |
| Riddell | nope, it definatly got into breezy | 01:02 |
| Hobbsee | it's not on p.u.o | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | *p.u.c | 01:03 |
| crimsun | 2.6-0ubuntu1 0 | 01:03 |
| crimsun | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | okay then... | 01:04 |
| Riddell | http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/yakuake | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | ah, you're right | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | didnt realise that searching ubuntu packages from the top corner of firefox only searches for the current distrobution's packages | 01:05 |
| === Hobbsee suspects she should go retreat to her corner until she wakes up a little more, and stops looking like an idiot | ||
| crimsun | just blame it on ENOCOFFEE | 01:06 |
| Hobbsee | havent heard of that one | 01:06 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: ping | 03:35 |
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| jsgotangco | Riddell, can't we release a VMWare image of Kubuntu 5.10? | 09:40 |
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| freeflying | jsgotangco: I think u can do it if u'd like | 09:43 |
| jsgotangco | freeflying, sure but it should be in the archives... | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | hello | 09:44 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: hey | 09:45 |
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| allee | hmm, not one of dapper good days (I did a reboot after dist-upgrade): 2 kontact crashes: can't connect kdewallet (normally does not happen), pw prompt, okay -> crash, RMB on E-mail address -> open in addressbook -> crash (worked after restart) | 12:07 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 12:07 |
| allee | kontact, kmail: bold fold is much bolder thatn it used to be | 12:07 |
| allee | konversation nick list now uses a font with serif (was without before) | 12:07 |
| allee | Tm_T: no hehe, better oh oh ;) | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | allee: well, no problems at all here =) | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | I'm glad I compile kdepim myslef ;) | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | myself even | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | hmm, 3ddesktop seems to work surprisingly well in dapper | 12:09 |
| Tm_T | it used to eat 15% cpu in idle back in hoary-days | 12:10 |
| allee | Tm_T: I'm more interested in the kubuntu defaults because that what (my) users (will) use. | 12:11 |
| === allee would also be happy with 15% for CPU time available | ||
| freeflying | allee: plz unlink the file : /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-ttf-arphic-uming | 12:12 |
| freeflying | allee: it will make youf old font as it used be | 12:12 |
| Tm_T | allee: aye, I find my place as beta tester ;) | 12:13 |
| Tm_T | or alpha, or mostly pre-alpha | 12:13 |
| Tm_T | svn is my friend, bugs.kde.org is my wife ;-P | 12:15 |
| allee | freeflying: thx. Are only the files that start with 2 digets + '-' executed? Looks strange to link to a file in same directory | 12:15 |
| freeflying | allee: just 30-ttf-arphic-uming , unlink it | 12:16 |
| allee | freeflying: 'k. Unlink. I'll logout, stop/start kdm and tell you the result (kde login window had same 'new' font | 12:17 |
| freeflying | allee: it will work | 12:18 |
| allee | freeflying: I'll trust you, oh, call for lunch. bbl | 12:18 |
| freeflying | allee: bye | 12:18 |
| Riddell | freeflying: pong | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just migrated to dapper, and I saw that many modifications on kubuntu-default-settings are completly obsolete, so I will redo the job directly on dapper now... | 12:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ok | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddelln mornfall : http://planetemu.net/temp/adept-installer.svgz | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | for the adept installer. any opinion ? | 12:30 |
| mornfall | Tonio_: png pretty please? :) | 12:31 |
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| Tonio_ | mornfall: of course :) | 12:31 |
| mornfall | oh i'm not | 12:32 |
| mornfall | somebody installed ksvg here :p | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | arf | 12:32 |
| hunger | Tonio_: Why the debian logo? Won't that confuse users? | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | so how do you find ? nothing magic of course, it is the same base | 12:33 |
| hunger | Tonio_: I do like your icon by the way;-) | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | why ? because .deb files have debian logo on kubuntu :) | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | browser /var/cache/apt/archives with konqueror and you'll see :) | 12:33 |
| hunger | Tonio_: They do... Never looked at one;-) | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | so that's the reason | 12:34 |
| hunger | Tonio_: So why do ubuntu-files have a debian logo in ubuntu;-) | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: I assume this is because of the icon theme used ;) | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | but ubuntu files are mostly debian ones.... | 12:35 |
| hunger | So I'll "unpack a deb" and get a CD? ;-) | 12:35 |
| hunger | Tonio_: I know. | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | they have .deb extensions, so why don't they have .ubu extension therefore ? ;) | 12:36 |
| hunger | Tonio_: But I guess it might confuse newbies ("What is this debian stuff doing on my shiny new ubuntu system?") | 12:36 |
| hunger | Tonio_: You are probably right. | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: newbies will not even know what debian is :) | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | because then they'd want .kub ones too, and then wouldnt understand that you can install the same deb on kubuntu/ubuntu without a problem | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | if they were .ubu only, people with kubuntu would think they couldnt install them at all. | 12:37 |
| hunger | Tonio_: Well, debian does get some PR... so if somebody looked around for a distribution he might have stumbled over that name. | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | most people seem to realise what a .deb does, even if they dont understand what it stands for | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: my question whas a "joke", to make a comparison with the fact that we have a debian icon ;) | 12:38 |
| hunger | But then he probably will know that ubuntu is based on debian anyway. | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | theat was not a "real" question | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | hehe - my error - i'm slowly falling asleep here :P | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ;) | 12:38 |
| hunger | You are probably right. | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | mornfall: http://planetemu.net/temp/adept-installer.png in case ksvg is or not installed ;) | 12:39 |
| hunger | Tonio_ : anyway, the icon looks really good and should fit well with the other kubuntu icons. I like it a lot. | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: and although, adept will certainly be packaged or debian too.... | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | an ubuntu application is a debian one, de facto | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | hunger: thanks :) | 12:40 |
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| tpr | hmm, kpdf doesn't seem to work on dapper atm? | 12:48 |
| tpr | printing from it.. or maybe it's common problem in kde? | 12:48 |
| tpr | printing pdf via evince works fine | 12:49 |
| Riddell | tpr: printing from KDE is broken generally | 12:49 |
| hunger | Riddell: Since when? | 12:50 |
| tpr | oh, known problem? | 12:50 |
| hunger | Riddell: It used to work for me... | 12:50 |
| tpr | okay.. nm then :) | 12:50 |
| Riddell | hunger: since cups 1.2 was in | 12:50 |
| Riddell | hunger: it works if you already have printers set up | 12:50 |
| Riddell | but if you don't and you're setting them up for the first time it complains | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I installed dapper and I still have the cursor bug on the desktop.... not while clicking the file, but while moving it on the desktop | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | I need to see with other dapper users | 12:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hmm, I have it too now | 12:51 |
| tpr | well, I have set my printer in those days I were using debian but it used to work on kubuntu too | 12:51 |
| hunger | Riddell: I have them on a printserver. Works fine. | 12:52 |
| Riddell | that never happened yesterday | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah ! | 12:52 |
| hunger | Riddell: They keep changing names though... | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | strange.... | 12:52 |
| Riddell | mouse cursors are so random | 12:52 |
| tpr | generates some odd stuff which isn't recognized by the cups | 12:52 |
| hunger | Riddell: Sometimes they are "printername", sometimes "printername@server"... | 12:52 |
| freeflying | Riddell: | 01:05 |
| freeflying | Riddell: hi | 01:06 |
| Riddell | yo | 01:07 |
| allee | hunger: saw this too, printer versus printer@hosts. removing /var/cache/cups/remote.cache resets to printer. They reappear again, not checked why | 01:08 |
| freeflying | Riddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-February/015252.html | 01:08 |
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| Hobbsee | ouch! | 01:10 |
| === Hobbsee just fell off her chair accidently! | ||
| Riddell | freeflying: can't CJK and european fonts live happily together? | 01:11 |
| freeflying | Riddell: the list of CJK will afftect each other | 01:12 |
| freeflying | Riddell: if we use the default configure of fontconfig now , it will use korea font to display chinese | 01:13 |
| freeflying | anyone use dapper on ppc now ? how about the sound's problem ? | 01:15 |
| Riddell | freeflying: ppc sound wasn't working last I tried | 01:19 |
| freeflying | Riddell: dose the wireless network card work ? thx! | 01:23 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: i think it has been fixed, in the -15 release | 01:24 |
| Riddell | I heard someone say they got their airport extreme working, not sure how | 01:25 |
| Riddell | robotgeek: ah, maybe I should give it another go | 01:25 |
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| robotgeek | Riddell: i got it working | 01:25 |
| freeflying | robotgeek: sound or wireless / | 01:25 |
| robotgeek | both | 01:26 |
| robotgeek | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for the airport extreme | 01:26 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: let me know if you have difficult finding the firmware for it | 01:28 |
| Riddell | I don't have wireless on my mini mac | 01:28 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: hmm, i tht you wanted to get it working, my bad | 01:29 |
| Riddell | freeflying does :) | 01:29 |
| robotgeek | freeflying: okay, i have gotten both to work. which type of apple? | 01:30 |
| freeflying | robotgeek: ibook G4 | 01:30 |
| robotgeek | freeflying: same as mine, so it should work . mine is a 1.26 ghz | 01:30 |
| freeflying | Riddell: should the configure of fontconfig for CJK be brought to the coming Technical Board Meeting | 01:32 |
| freeflying | robotgeek: mine is 1.33G | 01:32 |
| robotgeek | freeflying: should'nt be very different | 01:32 |
| Riddell | freeflying: that sounds like a good idea, if you can make the meeting and know what to say | 01:32 |
| freeflying | robotgeek: y | 01:32 |
| robotgeek | freeflying: uname -a | 01:33 |
| freeflying | Riddell: when the coming meeting take , I will be on train still , so I could not take part the meeting | 01:33 |
| robotgeek | freeflying: has it worked in breezy? | 01:34 |
| freeflying | robotgeek: I'm not using ibook now , I just want to have a kubuntu installed comp for the CanonicalAsiaTour/ShangHai's meetings | 01:34 |
| robotgeek | freeflying: ah okay, if you upgrade to the latest kernel, sound should work i am gusesing | 01:35 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: shall I add this point to the agenda | 01:48 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: it needs someone who knows the issues to be able to talk about it though | 01:49 |
| hunger | Riddell: You are supposed to fix suspend in kde? | 01:49 |
| hunger | Riddell: Any estimation no when it will work again? | 01:49 |
| freeflying | Riddell: y, huahua will attend the meeting | 01:50 |
| Riddell | freeflying: oh cool | 01:50 |
| Riddell | hunger: no idea just now I'm afraid | 01:50 |
| Riddell | pmi should work though? | 01:50 |
| freeflying | Huahua: ping | 01:50 |
| hunger | Riddell: pmi? | 01:50 |
| Riddell | pmi action suspend | 01:51 |
| hunger | Riddell: No idea what needs doing or no idea when it will be done? | 01:51 |
| Huahua | freeflying: pong | 01:51 |
| Huahua | Riddell: I will attend the meeting | 01:51 |
| hunger | Riddell: pmi action suspend does nothing. Just like pressing the suspend button. | 01:51 |
| freeflying | Riddell: Huahua know this issue more than me , and he have contribued too much for BetterCJKSupport | 01:52 |
| Riddell | Huahua: great, put it on the technical board agenda then | 01:52 |
| Huahua | thanks | 01:53 |
| Riddell | hunger: in your case I'm not too sure what the problem is then | 01:54 |
| freeflying | Riddell: also huahua has remastered kubuntu's install CD for chinese users | 01:54 |
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| Riddell | ooh, well done Huahua | 01:58 |
| Riddell | we should announce that on kubuntu.org | 01:58 |
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| Tm_T | o'ou | 04:39 |
| Tm_T | how I disabled kdm theme | 04:39 |
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| Tm_T | raphink: moin | 04:39 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Flight 3 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Thu, Feb 16th 2006 - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- be there! | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by raphink at Tue Feb 7 02:52:11 2006 | ||
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| Riddell | ** test amarok beta on dapper deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta1/ dapper main | 05:55 |
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| sealne | is dapper ok to use on your main desktop yet? | 05:58 |
| Tm_T | sealne: I've been using it since... hum, before KDE 3.5 I think | 06:04 |
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| Tm_T | I find it very stable these days | 06:04 |
| sealne | yeah thought so | 06:05 |
| sealne | dist-upgrade time :) | 06:06 |
| Tm_T | yay! | 06:11 |
| Tm_T | sealne: when you find these borkages... | 06:12 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| sealne | hmm lots of locale complaints from debconf during the dist-upgrade | 06:13 |
| Tm_T | haha | 06:13 |
| Riddell | that always happens | 06:14 |
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| ubijtsa2 | hmm.. I raised a defect earlier today, 31309, is there anyone I should mail about it, or is there some official bod classifying and assigning them? | 06:19 |
| Riddell | canonical hasn't hired the QA person yet | 06:22 |
| Tm_T | someone should hire me to Q person ;) | 06:39 |
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| sealne | bah X dosen't work | 06:43 |
| Riddell | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? | 06:43 |
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| sealne | that would probably just splat dual head stuff | 06:45 |
| sealne | the screens are completly blank and not responding to anything | 06:46 |
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| sealne | ohwell worry about that tommorow | 06:50 |
| mornfall | Riddell: can you sync libapt-front from unstable? | 06:57 |
| mornfall | Riddell: adept will go in soonish i guess (currently in isaac's hands) | 06:58 |
| Riddell | mornfall: sure | 06:59 |
| mornfall | 0.3.6 | 07:00 |
| mornfall | thanks | 07:03 |
| Riddell | mornfall: not in the archive http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/liba/libapt-front/ | 07:04 |
| mornfall | Riddell: it was only ACCEPTed few hours back | 07:04 |
| mornfall | hmm | 07:05 |
| Riddell | found it at http://incoming.debian.org/ | 07:05 |
| mornfall | interesting... but okey | 07:05 |
| Riddell | is that unexpected? | 07:06 |
| mornfall | possibly not synced from master :-) | 07:06 |
| mornfall | i have no idea when/how often it is synced | 07:06 |
| mornfall | i could write a blog | 07:08 |
| mornfall | i'll when it reaches archives | 07:08 |
| mornfall | i will* | 07:08 |
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| seth|lappy | Riddell, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/30271 << is the system:/ preview set up by default? | 07:50 |
| === hunger wonders why redhat thinks that Mesa-GL needs to be part of a minimal install! | ||
| seth|lappy | Riddell, also any guesses on if we will get Amarok 1.4 exempted to be in Dapper? Or will it just appear too late | 08:13 |
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| Riddell | sealne: I doubt amarok 1.4 will go in, please test the archive for the beta though | 08:33 |
| Riddell | oh, seth went, sorry sealne :) | 08:33 |
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| Drakeson | seems like something about xserver has been b0rked! the bold fonts are extremely bold now! | 08:48 |
| mornfall | hmm | 08:50 |
| luka74 | Drakeson: see this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128080 | 08:57 |
| Drakeson | luka74: thanks. has anybody considered filling a bug report against ttf-arphic-uming ? | 09:02 |
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| Tonio__ | mornfall: ping ? | 09:06 |
| mornfall | Tonio__: pong | 09:06 |
| luka74 | Drakeson: I have problems with Malone - hard to find if something is already submitted (it seems that I am used to Bugzilla) | 09:06 |
| Tonio__ | mornfall: are you fine with that icon or would you like something else ? | 09:07 |
| mornfall | Tonio__: i don't particularly care | 09:07 |
| mornfall | i wish my fonts were normal | 09:07 |
| mornfall | why oh why has fontconfig to be so fucked | 09:07 |
| Tonio__ | I can understand you on that point..... | 09:08 |
| Drakeson | mornfall: now after 'apt-get remove ttf-arphic-uming' my desktop has become a better place ;) | 09:09 |
| luka74 | Drakeson: font issue is already in Malone: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ttf-arphic-uming/+bug/31149 | 09:10 |
| Drakeson | luka74: Thanks :) | 09:16 |
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| mornfall | --> break | 09:25 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: if you have time, could you please look into getting this into archive? http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.89.tar.gz | 09:28 |
| mornfall | it won't get into unstable today it seems, isaac is busy with other things | 09:29 |
| Riddell | mornfall: great, will do | 09:29 |
| mornfall | thanks a lot | 09:30 |
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| mornfall | :'( | 11:06 |
| Riddell | ? | 11:08 |
| mornfall | generally unhappy | 11:10 |
| allee | Riddell: Update channel topic? KubuntuDapperGoals 'points' to https://launchpad.net/sprints/ubz or better https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-roadmap-dapper | 11:25 |
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