[12:21] <Jackel003> Kubuntu isnt recognizing my card, how can i fix it
[12:22] <Jackel003> one error is Fatal: Error insterting fglrx (/lib/modules/12.6.10-6.17/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No Such Device
[12:22] <Jackel003> the other is <Jackel003> "[
[12:22] <Jackel003> [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* device not found!
[12:22] <trispace> hello, i have a strange problem with konqueror, although the rss button shows up in konqueror, when clicking on it nothing happens. Any suggestions?
[12:23] <deuce868> can someone point me toward what I need to do to get thunderbird to open urls in firefox. I went through the kde components dialog, but clicking links still does nothing.
[12:24] <orion_fr_24> !wine
[12:24] <Jackel003> can anyhelp me out?
[12:27] <mzelem> anyone know how to re-install grub w/o reinstalling kubuntu?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !grub
[12:27] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:27] <Vge> man grub can also be very usefull
[12:28] <mzelem> thanks
[12:28] <lgsobalvarro> hi aseigo
[12:29] <Vge> deuce868: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90475 <-- does this help?
[12:31] <aseigo> lgsobalvarro: hey =)
[12:32] <angasule> dammit, how do I get konqueror to load fonts? I've restarted Xwith no luck, mozilla shows them, though
[12:33] <sas171> hi, is there a tool for loading files from free filehosting like rapidshare or megaupload?
[12:35] <EightiesK> !bot
[12:35] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:36] <jarlath> In case nobody know about it, I'm after coming across the coolest terminal in the repositories. Its called YaKuake. Its the most convenient and stylish terminal you could have. Pressing F12 makes it drop down and take focus. Check it out!
[12:36] <Hobbsee> jarlath: it's in REVU, may well end up being in dapper
[12:37] <jarlath> Hobbsee: One of those things you wonder how you ever did without!
[12:37] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:38] <sas171> the kde theme for it looks good to
[12:38] <jarlath> sas171, how did you get away with that?!
[12:38] <Hobbsee> ah, there are problems with the packaging of it
[12:38] <EightiesK> !theme
[12:39] <sas171> jarlath: what do you mean?
[12:39] <deuce868> Vge: that was it. Thanks
[12:39] <Hostile> Is there anyway to have apt-get scan my system for installed packages that arent required by anything?
[12:39] <jarlath> sas171: I mean, how did you get away with not using a terminal? I would love a distro that was so smooth that I didnt have to use it.
[12:39] <crimsun> Hobbsee: pong
[12:39] <jarlath> Hobbsee: It installed fine for me.
[12:40] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hehe a little late - there was a sound issue from last night that i thought you might like to solve
[12:40] <EightiesK> !kdethemes
[12:40] <crimsun> Hobbsee: ok (have been away most of the day)
[12:40] <Hobbsee> jarlath: yeah, but there's a big difference between installing for your own machine, and making a package for it that goes into main ubuntu
[12:40] <Hobbsee> crimsun: no problems
[12:40] <sas171> Hobbsee: look 4 ubuntu packages at kde-look.org there are some
[12:40] <jarlath> Hobbsee: oh yes. I see what you mean.
[12:40] <Hobbsee> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1398
[12:41] <Hobbsee> is the page about it
[12:41] <slow-motion> n8
[12:42] <angasule> konqueror won't load new fonts, I've rebooted, mozilla shows them
[12:43] <JasonR> Is there a way to make the border disappear when maximizing windows in KDE? It used to work on KDE 3.4.1 on Debian Sarge. Since I installed Kubuntu it doesn't work right anymore.
[12:44] <jarlath> .
[12:44] <Hobbsee> JasonR: right click on window, advanced, no border?
[12:45] <sybesis> robotgeek are you there?
[12:45] <sybesis> hobbsee?
[12:45] <Hobbsee> sybesis: heya
[12:45] <sybesis> hey
[12:46] <sybesis> i finnaly got kubuntu working with internet
[12:46] <sybesis> :P
[12:46] <JasonR> Hobbsee: No that's different. That makes the title bar disappear as well. On 3.4.1 (using Plastik theme) when I clicked the maximize button, the window borders disappeared and the button at the top right of the window were right on the edge fo the screen. I could zip my pointer to the top right and click to close a window.
[12:47] <sybesis> i had just to configure the good information for dhcp
[12:47] <JasonR> Now the buttons are several pixels away requiring a lot of fine motor control of the mouse to click on those buttons
[12:47] <Hobbsee> ah ok...
[12:48] <snikker> i've got aa problem with wine on amd64, i'm unable to got graphic interface
[12:48] <sybesis> thx for the help same if the problem was just in the front of my eyes :O
[12:50] <cinder> anybody knows a repository to dwl E17
[12:50] <cinder> ?
[12:50] <angasule> bug report: font packages don't install fonts
[12:51] <Vge> JasonR: use Plastic theme on the buttons, you can change "tiny" mode on with the borders, and get desired effect
[12:51] <bimberi> !e17breezy
[12:51] <ubotu> methinks e17breezy is E17 on breezy: : http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%29
[12:56] <angasule> hello? I know why so many african languages use the latin alphabet, because nothing else is supported! :P
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> snikker: don't know if it's related but I have crossover office here and I often get a window open w/o any contents and I have to ctrl/c it from the shell I run it from, then run it again immediately and it runs okay.
[12:57] <JasonR> Vge: Ok, I tried that.  Doesn't work. When I put my mouse pointer in the top right corner it changes to the window resize shape. The expected behavior was that it should highlight the close button and make it turn red.
[12:58] <LeeJunFan> snikker: that's only with one app I run.
[12:58] <JasonR> Is this defined in the theme?  If so, can I install the plastik theme from debian's 3.4.1 build into Kubuntu?
[12:59] <Vge> well you need to change the "border style" to tiny, and as i see it, its only available in plastic
[12:59] <Vge> in KDE by default
[01:00] <JasonR_> Got disconnected, sorry
[01:01] <Vge> well you need to change the "border style" to tiny, and as i see it, its only available in plastic
 in KDE by default
[01:01] <JasonR_> Vge: I have it set to tiny
[01:02] <Vge> hmm, works for me in 3.5 :/
[01:02] <supertijano> What are you guys trying to accomplish?
[01:02] <JasonR_> You can put your pointer all the way to the top right corner and it's highlighting the close button?
[01:02] <Vge> yes
[01:02] <snikker> LeeJunFan: did you have installed crrossover office in amd64?
[01:02] <JasonR_> Hmm
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> snikker: yeah.
[01:03] <angasule> help! konqueror won't load new fonts I installed from the universe repository using Adept, I've rebooted, mozilla shows them, but KDE apps don't
[01:03] <JasonR_> supertijano: you mean me?
[01:03] <supertijano> Yeah
[01:03] <Grim76> Anyone use fluxbox and know how to get the transparency to work?
[01:04] <snikker> LeeJunFan: good... i've used wine, but i've got a problem with graphic interface: i've got some errors...
[01:04] <Hobbsee> sas171: yakuake's already in breezy and dapper
[01:04] <snikker> LeeJunFan: i prefer use wine because it is free...
[01:05] <JasonR_> I want my windows to function exactly how they function in MS Windows.  I run all windows maximized. In MS Windows when windows are maximized the title bar remains but the window borders disappear. The window is locked into place and can't be moved until unmaximized. The window widgets (close, minimize, restore) are right against the edge of the screen instead of one or two pixes away from...
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> snikker: yeah, I would too but in my case it was either use crossover or windows.
[01:05] <JasonR_> ...the edge.
[01:06] <JasonR_> I had the second part working right out of the box in Debian Sarge with the KDE 3.4.1 packages (Plastik theme).  I'm trying to figure out why it's not working in Kubuntu.
[01:06] <snikker> LeeJunFan: i understand...
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> JasonR_: mine seems to be working like that - ie. my borders disappear.
[01:06] <_john> Any got any suggestions for locating a usb driver for a sony cyber-shot dsc p73 camera
[01:07] <_john> Could this work with generic driver?
[01:07] <JasonR_> LeeJunFan: I'm wondering if I hosed my settings somehow then. Is there a way to return my KDE settings to the Kubutu defaults without reinstalling?
[01:08] <_john> I'd like to set it upon my kubuntu but don't know where to start.
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> JasonR_: well, I'm not entirely sure mine are kubuntu defaults either. But if you log out of KDE, log in via a console by ctrl-alt-f1 and rm -rf .kde, then log back in you'll have default settings.
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> you'll lose all your kde settings though.
[01:09] <LeeJunFan> JasonR_: maybe mv .kde .kde-bak instead of rm -rf it.
[01:09] <Vge> JasonR: you have "Window behavior>moving>"Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows" deselected?
[01:09] <_john> I've taken some pic on the camera and want to load them onto my computer.
[01:10] <angasule> !fonts
[01:10] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[01:10] <Hobbsee> JasonR_: um, my settings are just like that
[01:10] <JasonR_> Vge: I'm not sure. Where do I find that setting?
[01:11] <Hobbsee> JasonR_: use kpersonalizer, and set it to windows settings - you might find that helps
[01:11] <Vge> KDE Control Center>Window Behavior>Moving tab>Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows
[01:12] <JasonR_> Ok, hang on.  I moved .kde out of the way so I can start with the defaults.
[01:14] <JasonR_> Vge: Still go the problem with default settings. I can't find the KDE Control Center. All I have is System Settings from the K menu. From there I was going to the Appearance panel to view my theme and window settings.
[01:18] <JasonR_> Vge: I found the config panel.  Checking settings.
[01:19] <Vge> JasonR_:kcontrol from the konsole
[01:19] <JasonR_> Vge: Many thanks! Turning off "Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows" gave me the functionality that I was looking for.  Everything is working exactly as I expected now.  :-D
[01:20] <Vge> np
[01:21] <_john> how can i copy the images from this sony cyber shot usb camera onto my harddrive?
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> _john: most external storage devices are supported by generic usb-storage driver (module). After you plug your camera in click on system icon on taskbar and go to removable media.
[01:25] <snikker> i'm unable to get again a cdrom repository in synaptic (or apt)
[01:26] <snikker> "adp-cdrom add" don't work...
[01:29] <bimberi> 'sudo apt-cdrom add' ?
[01:30] <bimberi> snikker: ^^^
[01:30] <Parkotron> john: make sure your camera is in USB mode, not PTP. Sony Cameras don't work well as cameras in Linux. Treat it like a USB memory key.
[01:30] <snikker> binberi: yes i've used sudo... but nothing to do...
[01:30] <`Nomad411> Card readers are always easier
[01:30] <snikker> bimberi: yes i've used sudo... but nothing to do...
[01:31] <kameron> i'm using qtparted, and i want to resize a partition. can i do that do the partition i'm running kubuntu from? when i right click to re-size, the option is shaded out.
[01:31] <`Nomad411> !ole
[01:31] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, `Nomad411
[01:31] <snikker> E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc
[01:31] <bimberi> snikker: ah, well maybe the packages you're installing have later versions that are only in the internet repos
[01:31] <`Nomad411> !wine
[01:32] <snikker> bimberi: yes, but i want use the cdrom because i don't have a fast internet connection
[01:33] <_john> LeeJunFan: when I click on system icon it shows storage media but no removable media when I lick on storage media it also does not show any media there nor could I find removable media under system, utilities or control centre.
[01:33] <LeeJunFan> _john: sry, storage media is what I meant.
[01:34] <_john> What do I do when I get to the storage media. Should there be a listing for my camera?
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> _john: open a shell (konsole) and type dmesg directly after inserting your camera (with power on). At the bottom of dmesg it should say something about perhaps sda or sdb, etc.
[01:35] <kameron> _john, 'ls /media' there should be a 'usbdisk' folder, or 'sda1', 'sda2' etc
[01:35] <bimberi> snikker: you could try installing the .deb file directly from the cd - 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'
[01:37] <bimberi> snikker: it might ask for dependencies, for which you can do the same thing
[01:37] <_john> LeeJunFan: many thanks for your assistance i figured it out. Camera  had powere off but when I put it back on I found the removable storage entry and went from there. Thanks again
[01:38] <snikker> bimberi: it's not very usefull... but maybe could be a way...
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> _john: cool. you're welcome!
[01:38] <bimberi> snikker: another way would be to edit your sources.list, comment out all but the CD, then 'sudo aptitude update' and retry the install
[01:41] <snikker> bimberi: i've already do it, but when i try to add the cdrom it say that this is not a debian disk...
[01:42] <bimberi> snikker: yes they have a special file/directory structure.  Unless it is supposed to have that, in which case it might be a bad CD.
[01:45] <snikker> bimberi: it's a kubuntu install dvd, it work right but when i've commented and recommented the cdrom line in source.list, i've got errors...
[01:46] <angasule> !fonts
[01:46] <ubotu> somebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[01:46] <anatole> i need some help; i need a source list with the newest package releases i tried on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic but after getting krusader 1.70.0 package i get lost of messages about other packages missing (new versions)
[01:46] <anatole> the krusader package i got from krusader homepage
[01:51] <bimberi> snikker: i'm not sure what's wrong sorry.  It might be that the apt database thinks the CD is already present, in which case it will error if you try to (re-)add it
[01:52] <snikker> bimberi: ok, don't worry :-)  thanks for your time... :-)
[01:53] <bimberi> snikker: np :)
[01:58] <angasule> kubuntu font management sucks
[02:09] <djzn> is ther anything I need to do to install KDE 3.5.1 packages on my system (alter sources.list, etc)?
[02:11] <bimberi> djzn: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[02:12] <orangey> hey all!
[02:13] <Delphinus> hello
[02:16] <burnninator> what package would i need to use svn?
[02:17] <djzn> i have added the lines in sources list.. when I apt-get update i get this error: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: As seguintes assinaturas so invlidas: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:17] <djzn> W: Voc ter que executar apt-get update para corrigir esses arquivos faltosos
[02:21] <orion_fr_24> hello all
[02:21] <thompa> hi
[02:21] <orion_fr_24> I ve got this message
[02:21] <orion_fr_24>  KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalogue. Fix the program
[02:22] <orion_fr_24> most of the time i try to launch a software from commanline
[02:22] <orion_fr_24> this message appeared when i ve update my KDE to 3.5.1
[02:22] <orion_fr_24> any idea how to fix that ?
[02:23] <raphink> orion_fr_24: I fixed this bug yesterday
[02:23] <orion_fr_24> raphink: cool
[02:23] <raphink> Riddell has the fix and will hopefully release the new package soon
[02:23] <raphink> in the meanwhile, you can fix it dirtily
[02:23] <orion_fr_24> raphink: ok
[02:24] <djzn> i have added a key to apt and now it tells me it's a bad signature everytime I run apt-get update
[02:24] <djzn> how do I remove that key
[02:24] <raphink> by linking /etc/X11/xkb/ to /usr/share/X11/xkb/
[02:24] <raphink> sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb/ /usr/share/X11/xkb/
[02:24] <raphink> should do
[02:24] <raphink> then relaunch kxkb
[02:24] <orion_fr_24> raphink: is it a KDE related bug ?
[02:24] <orion_fr_24> could you explain me briefly what is all about
[02:24] <bimberi> djzn: that error is on a different key ...
[02:24] <bimberi> !gpgerr
[02:24] <ubotu> I guess gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[02:25] <raphink> orion_fr_24: it's a KDE / Xorg >= 6.9 related bug
[02:25] <raphink> orion_fr_24: xkb/ has gone from /usr/share to /etc/X11 in xorg 6.9
[02:25] <raphink> and it kxkb has not taken this into consideration
[02:25] <raphink> iirc
[02:26] <orion_fr_24> raphink: ok could you tell me more about Klocale and what it is made for ?
[02:26] <raphink> no, because I don't know more ;)
[02:26] <orion_fr_24> raphink: ok thx
[02:26] <djzn> bimberi: how is that
[02:26] <raphink> although it's easy to guess that it's what deals with locales in KDE
[02:26] <raphink> ;)
[02:26] <djzn> bimberi: i would have to remove some entry? it says that in the security directory...
[02:27] <orion_fr_24> raphink: i guess so ;)
[02:27] <bimberi> djzn: i don't know how/why it occurs sorry, just know about that "fix"
[02:27] <bimberi> djzn: (the fix in the ubotu post above)
[02:28] <orion_fr_24> raphink: so according to u it s just a question of packaging bug ?
[02:28] <djzn> bimberi: how to fix it?
[02:28] <raphink> orion_fr_24: it's a variable missing in a source file for kxkb, in an array that defines where to find X11 includes for xkb
[02:29] <bimberi> djzn: the ubotu factoid says to "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*"
[02:29] <orion_fr_24> raphink: ok thx dude
[02:31] <djzn> bimberi: did that.. now I try to install that kde351 pgn key again?
[02:32] <bimberi> djzn: i think so yes (no harm in it being done twice anyway)
[02:33] <thompa> i just wanted to ask, does a new download of kubuntu iso contain kde 3.5 or is an upgrade required?
[02:34] <burnninator> anyone here use easyubuntu?
[02:35] <burnninator> how do i get past the "No module named gtk" when runnint 'kdesu ./easyubuntu.py'
[02:35] <Hobbsee> burnninator: see #easyubuntu
[02:35] <burnninator> im in there, they use ubuntu, so they don't know
[02:35] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure, i didnt write it
[02:36] <thompa> seems easyubuntu site is down
[02:36] <burnninator> good times
[02:36] <djzn> bimberi: will the system get the right kde?
[02:37] <bimberi> djzn: yes, if you're repositories are set up correctly
[02:37] <thompa> does a new download of kubuntu iso contain kde 3.5?
[02:37] <djzn> bimberi: i mean.. i have added more repositories to the list... that means apt won't get the old kde.. i'm in ubuntu
[02:38] <bimberi> burnninator: looks like easyubuntu needs python gtk libraries, which wouldn't come with kubuntu by default
[02:38] <djzn> bimberi: or do i have to specify which kde i want?
[02:38] <bimberi> djzn: no, you just update and dist-upgrade and kde will be updated to the latest
[02:39] <bimberi> thompa: not the current stable release (breezy) no, but you can install it ...
[02:39] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[02:39] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:39] <thompa> ok thanks
[02:40] <bimberi> thompa: or you can run (and hence test) dapper...
[02:40] <bimberi> !dapper
[02:40] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable so please help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[02:40] <bimberi> !flight3
[02:40] <ubotu> Dapper Flight CD 3 is ready - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-January/000048.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3
[02:40] <thompa> i noticed there are daily dapper builds of kubuntu available also
[02:41] <djzn> bimberi: that's my fear... the dist-upgrade.. i'm in ubuntu .... i dont want to have the distribution upgraded
[02:41] <orangey> anybody here use beagle with kde?
[02:41] <thompa> would it maybe make sense to try the daily build if i wanted dapper?
[02:41] <thompa> i suppose upgrading flight 3 gives same
[02:42] <bimberi> thompa: yes (to your last question) not sure (to the one before that) :)
[02:42] <thompa> good enoguh thanks
[02:43] <burnninator> trying to follow the guide on how to install the nvidia drivers and am stuck on step four, any suggestions?
[02:43] <burnninator> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:44] <_michael> oKle DVD Player crashes every time it tries to read the dvd menu
[02:45] <troy> hey, does anyone know of any official (or otherwise) amarok 1.4b1 packages?
[02:45] <bimberi> djzn: why not? what do you think it will be upgraded to?
[02:45] <burnninator> i don't see an option for "restricted copyright" at all
[02:45] <_michael> can someone help, when I try to play a dvd, oKle just quits when it tries to read the dvd menu
[02:45] <djzn> bimberi: when I issue dist-upgrade, it's not kde packages that get listed.. but some of my own system...
[02:46] <_michael> can someone help, when I try to play a dvd, oKle just quits when it tries to read the dvd menu
[02:46] <djzn> bimberi: coz I dont have kde, understand?
[02:46] <_michael> can someone help, when I try to play a dvd, oKle just quits when it tries to read the dvd menu
[02:46] <djzn> bimberi: i would be installing from scratch
[02:47] <_michael> great I get ignored here to
[02:47] <bimberi> djzn: yes, i'm with you now (finally) :)
[02:48] <thompa> !dvd
[02:48] <ubotu> dvd is probably DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:48] <bimberi> djzn: with that repository setup, if you install kubuntu-desktop, you will get kde3.5.1
[02:48] <djzn> bimberi: oh yeah?
[02:48] <thompa> _michael: do you have codecs?
[02:48] <djzn> bimberi: no fear then to get the previous kde installed
[02:50] <burnninator> anyone have any ideas on adding the restricted section to the package manager?
[02:50] <thompa> _michael: you need libdvdcss2 firstly
[02:50] <ClayG> whats a good newsreader...something easy to use and GUI
[02:50] <ClayG> I need to find something and stick with it
[02:50] <bimberi> djzn: you can check what version will be installed with 'apt-cache policy kdebase'
[02:51] <picoss> !KLocale
[02:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, picoss
[02:51] <thompa> ClayG: knode or krn maybe
[02:52] <ClayG> thank you
[02:52] <bimberi> djzn: look at the "Candidate:" line, mine says "4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6" (ie. 3.4.3) but i don't have that extra repository.  If you're repos are set up correctly you'll see 3.5 in there
[02:53] <thompa> ClayG: knode is prbably what you want
[02:53] <ClayG> knode better than using thunderbird
[02:53] <ClayG> in your op?
[02:54] <bimberi> *your  (now that was a shocker)
[02:54] <djzn> bimberi:  it looks it is downloading kde 3.5.1
[02:54] <djzn> bimberi: kde packages are all 3.5.1
[02:54] <bimberi> djzn: phew :P
[02:55] <djzn> bimberi: thanks!
[02:55] <bimberi> _michael: not ignored here, just no idea :/
[02:55] <bimberi> djzn: yw :)
[02:57] <_michael> sorry for the attitude, the libdvd thing worked
[03:00] <toyo|lappy> hello all
[03:00] <toyo|lappy> I just installed kubuntu on a friends computer and I was wondering why the latest version of firefox is not in the updates?
[03:01] <toyo|lappy> its got like 1.0.7
[03:01] <toyo|lappy> or somthing
[03:01] <toyo|lappy> is there an update that I need to do to the package database or what?
[03:02] <crimsun> firefox 1.5 was released after breezy was released. It's that simple.
[03:02] <toyo|lappy> oh so once the distro is out there is no effort to keep up on program updates?
[03:03] <toyo|lappy> I have no idea how it works...I dont use ubuntu myself
[03:03] <t3nd0> whats a good mp3 player?
[03:03] <crimsun> no major updates are made to a _frozen_ distro.
[03:03] <toyo|lappy> oh...
[03:03] <toyo|lappy> umm ok
[03:03] <crimsun> security fixes are backported.
[03:04] <toyo|lappy> ah
[03:04] <toyo|lappy> I am used to the gentoo way
[03:04] <toyo|lappy> :P
[03:04] <toyo|lappy> hehe
[03:04] <Vge> I compiled my firt program with configure/make/make install, im floating atm :)
[03:04] <toyo|lappy> lol vge
[03:05] <Vge> "ill be back"
[03:05] <t3nd0> how do i mount my ntfs drives?
[03:07] <Hobbsee> !ntfs
[03:07] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:07] <Hobbsee> !mount
[03:07] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:08] <t3nd0> thank you very much
[03:08] <t3nd0> this is my first time successfully getting through a linux installation, gentoo was far too difficult for my feeble brain
[03:09] <t3nd0> also how do i get my back button on my mouse working i use that one constantly
[03:13] <toyo|lappy> so crimsun is there a "clean" way to install FF 1.5.0.1?
[03:13] <crimsun> !firefox1.5
[03:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:13] <toyo|lappy> awesome thanks
[03:14] <t3nd0> yay i needed that too <3
[03:15] <bimberi> t3nd0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[03:15] <bimberi> t3nd0: (might help, not sure)
[03:16] <t3nd0> thank you very much i will read that
[03:16] <t3nd0> i guess i need to search that wiki before asking questions :)
[03:16] <t3nd0> ubotu,  yay i have my NTFS drives now thank you so much !!!!
[03:16] <ubotu> t3nd0: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:17] <bimberi> t3nd0: no problem :) - the wiki is a teriffic resource
[03:17] <t3nd0> yess time for some music finally
[03:17] <bimberi> !mp3
[03:17] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[03:17] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:20] <t3nd0> how come i can log into the administration panels using the only password i gave setup, but i can't "su - " and login as root with that password
[03:20] <t3nd0> what is the default root password?
[03:21] <crimsun> !tell t3nd0 about root
[03:21] <t3nd0> thank you
[03:25] <toyo|lappy> ok here is another question...is there a wiki on how to install ATI proprietary drivers?
[03:25] <Vge> !ati
[03:25] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:26] <toyo|lappy> you rock
[03:26] <toyo|lappy> :P
[03:26] <Vge> ati is still hard in linux
[03:34] <Hobbsee> !blah
[03:34] <ubotu> Hobbsee: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:35] <bimberi> !blah
[03:35] <ubotu> Same to you bimberi
[03:35] <bimberi> Hobbsee: !unforget blah
[03:36] <toyo|lappy> vge why do you say that?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> lol
[03:36] <bimberi> !forget blah
[03:36] <ubotu> bimberi: i forgot blah
[03:36] <bimberi> Hobbsee: ah, good thing i've re-forgotten it then :P
[03:37] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:47] <Nirvana> *cough*
[03:47] <ownerx> *cough*
[03:47] <Knowerrors> What program in kde can be used to mount harddrives that are connected but don't show?  3.4 used to have a section with all drives, 3.5 doesn't
[03:48] <Knowerrors> where can I browse all drives
[03:48] <Nirvana> knowerrors: media:/ or /media/ maybe?
[03:48] <ownerx> konquerer
[03:48] <ownerx> i guess
[03:48] <rich0rd> media:/
[03:48] <Nirvana> ^^ I think that's implied ownerx :P
[03:49] <Nirvana> knowerrors: If you want something that looks cool, you can use filelight, people say that rocks
[03:49] <Knowerrors> media:/ just shows me floppy drive, and other removeable drives
[03:49] <Knowerrors> Id prefer something in konq... integrated
[03:49] <Nirvana> knowerrors: you can make a directory, and sym link everything and anything you'd like in it
[03:50] <Nirvana> knowerrors: as in, sym link all hdd's and floppy/disk drives
[03:50] <Knowerrors> '/media/ just shows me floppy and cd drives
[03:50] <Knowerrors> Nirvana: Im amazed new kde doesn't have a place for that by default...
[03:50] <Nirvana> knowerrors: I think the hard drive showing thingy was taken out because it is implied that they are there
[03:51] <Nirvana> knowerrors: and therefore useless ^
[03:51] <Knowerrors> arrrgh, thats the whole point of a gui, to have object oriented stuff so you deal less with file structure and save time
[03:52] <Nirvana> knowerrors: lol, you can always make one yourself though
[03:52] <Nirvana> knowerrors: it's real easy, takes maybe 10 minutes to set up, and is a good learning experience
[03:52] <Nirvana> ^^ lol what is dodo in french?
[03:52] <Knowerrors> yeah, Im just really tired right now, and wanted a non thinking/learning solution
[03:53] <ownerx> in gnome computer:/// shows everything
[03:53] <ownerx> even unmounted things
[03:54] <Knowerrors> I tried showing mounted/unmounted hardrives on desktop, nothing
[03:55] <ownerx> know time to switch to gnome
[03:55] <ownerx> j/k
[03:55] <Knowerrors> hehe, thats a deal with the devil
[03:55] <ownerx> i have both installed
[03:55] <ownerx> lol
[03:55] <Knowerrors> give me simplicity, take away my power
[03:56] <Nirvana> knowerrors: just "  mkdir '~/My Computer'; ln -s /media/floppy0 '~/My Computer/Floppy'  " and repeat the ln -s line with other /media/ things and anything else you'd like to show
[03:57] <Knowerrors> will those stay after I reboot?
[03:57] <Knowerrors> I think "kdf" will give me what I want...
[03:57] <ownerx> i think this is a known bug with kde
[03:57] <ownerx> at least in ubuntu
[03:57] <Nirvana> knowerrors: yes (if your talking to me), their symbolic links
[03:58] <Knowerrors> yeah, theres also a bug where trash doesn't show on the kde desktop
[03:58] <Knowerrors> even though the icon is there in the desktop dir
[03:58] <Nirvana> knowerrors: btw, you can then just "  ln -s '~/My Computer' '~/Desktop/My Computer'  " and you will have a desktop icon for it :D called My Computer, just like in the Redmon OS
[03:59] <Nirvana> Redmond^
[03:59] <shawn__> why do people refer to MS as redmond? what's that all anout?
[03:59] <shawn__> *about
[04:00] <Knowerrors> Redmond, Washington
[04:00] <Nirvana> shawn__: they are from Redmond
[04:00] <shawn__> I know
[04:00] <shawn__> but why
[04:00] <Knowerrors> HQ of gates and co
[04:00] <shawn__> ....
[04:00] <Knowerrors> nickname for it
[04:00] <Knowerrors> without copyright infringement
[04:00] <Nirvana> cuz  we're  kool  and  kuick  and  love  KDE
[04:00] <Knowerrors> you know, in KDE there is a Redmond style
[04:00] <shawn__> oh okay
[04:00] <shawn__> lol
[04:00] <Nirvana> and K's ^
[04:01] <fastduke> I think their address is "1 Redmond Way"
[04:01] <shawn__> I thought maybew it was like not saying the devils name lol
[04:01] <shawn__> yep
[04:02] <Knowerrors> Nirvana: how will what you're saying work for unmounted HD volumes/partitions  that don't have a mnt or media entry?
[04:02] <Nirvana> knowerrors: hmm, maybe it just will if it mounts to a static point?
[04:03] <Nirvana> knowerrors: it will work, just have an ugly padlock until the device is mounted (I think)
[04:04] <Knowerrors> cause right now, I have cdrom in mnt, and floppy in media, none of my HD volumes, even the one Im using right now are shown
[04:04] <ownerx> thats just not right..
[04:05] <Nirvana> knowerrors: then do ln -s /path/to/volume '~/My Computer' and it will show, but will have a padlock on it
[04:06] <Nirvana> .. /path/to/volume as in where you usually mount this volume
[04:06] <Knowerrors> how do I update /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab? I just plugged in a new drive, rebooted, and I can't mount it
[04:07] <shawn__> hey I'm trying to access my ntfs partition in user I have this /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs   user      0       0   and it's still giving me issues what else do I have to do?
[04:07] <Nirvana> kdesu kate /etc/fstab > add the mount point of the drive + options
[04:08] <ownerx> shawn like this /dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0 0       0
[04:08] <shawn__> should work?
[04:08] <ownerx> yes
[04:08] <ownerx> read only
[04:08] <shawn__> what's that umask mean?
[04:08] <ownerx> file access rights
[04:09] <Knowerrors> Nirvana: what do I put for bump and pass?
[04:09] <shawn__> oh okay, thankyou
[04:09] <ownerx> np
[04:09] <Knowerrors> err, dump and pass
[04:12] <Nirvana> knowerrors: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs << try that maybe?
[04:13] <Nirvana> knowerrors: replace gedit with kwrite
[04:15] <Knowerrors> Nirvana: thx, brb, gotta disconnect, will read
[04:17] <shawn__> humm I changed it to that it doesn't give me any errors now but it doesn't show the files
[04:17] <Vge> hmm, how do i make a program that i compiled to run systemvide from any folder i want to run it?
[04:18] <Hobbsee> copy it to /usr/bin?
[04:18] <ownerx> or adjust your path=/ settings
[04:18] <ownerx> in /etc/environment
[04:23] <prospero2006> I wrote a mozilla extension that decrypts your root password and uploads it to a public web site for viewing. Anyone care to try it?
[04:25] <mr-russ> prospero2006: sure.
[04:25] <mr-russ> what does it do when I don't have a root password?
[04:26] <prospero2006> I'm just bs'ing. I did however write an extension that opens a new blank window
[04:26] <prospero2006> Kind of a big step to learn how they are put together
[04:26] <prospero2006> You just have to be good with java script basically
[04:33] <prospero2006> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu, but an experienced linux user. I've always used Slackware, but I think Ubuntu is freakin' great. Anyone here tried other distros that compare?
[04:34] <Nirvana> does anyone know why this img: http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kmenu8fm.png is not the default kubuntu logo? it should be in everyones ~/.kde/share/icons/crystalsvg/64x64/apps/kmenu.png directory
[04:34] <nikita> i'm trying to install Brahms, music editor program. when i launch ./configure i get "error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found." what am i supposed to do? i think that i have Qt 3.x
[04:35] <Nirvana> prospero2006: you must be looking for something that doesn't exist.. nothing beats kubuntu.. I've seen MEPIS, mandrake (pre-mandriva-10.1 edition), debian, and Xebian (on my xbox), nothing as cool
[04:36] <prospero2006> I really do feel like I struck gold with this distro. I haven't opened up, or even thought about opening up, my windows partition for about 4 days
[04:37] <Nirvana> lol... why is the canadian ubuntu repo mirror always down :(
[04:37] <prospero2006> Did you insatll brahms from adept?
[04:37] <prospero2006> There is a package there
[04:38] <Nirvana> if anythings, USA's should be down... there's ten times more americans than Canadians.... :P
[04:39] <prospero2006> All of that canadian cash that could be supporting ubuntu servers is going toward national health care
[04:39] <Nirvana> prospero2006: your just jealous :P we get it free :D
[04:39] <prospero2006> I think its great
[04:39] <Nirvana> ohh yeah
[04:39] <SteveMyers> hey everyone, can someone please tell me how to install a KDE theme from a tar.gz?
[04:39] <nikita> prospero2006: no, i got source. i did that on purpose because if i install it from adept it has problems with arts and installation directory, so i made up my mind to start with source, though now it doesn't seem to be a nice idea
[04:40] <prospero2006> If we had national health care in the US, I wouldn't worry so much about my job.
[04:40] <Nirvana> SteveMyers: did you read the install instructions from kde-look.org? post this link to the theme in question
[04:40] <SteveMyers> eh?
[04:40] <Nirvana> you did download the theme from kde-look right?
[04:41] <Nirvana> actually wait
[04:41] <SteveMyers> yes I did
[04:41] <SteveMyers> it's a Window Decoration
[04:41] <Nirvana> you could just open settings:/LookNFeel/ and click Theme manager, then just add that
[04:42] <Nirvana> unless it's an icon theme, or requires dragging to the ~/.kde directory
[04:42] <SteveMyers> I am there now, but when i go to install theme, it doesnt show the tar.gz in the desktop
[04:42] <Nirvana> drag it there?
[04:42] <SteveMyers> I tried :-/
[04:42] <Nirvana> post the link to the theme
[04:42] <SteveMyers> k
[04:42] <SteveMyers> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31816
[04:43] <nikita> !qt
[04:43] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[04:43] <Nirvana> ohh pretty SteveMyers
[04:44] <SteveMyers> Yeah it's a nice theme
[04:44] <SteveMyers> Just need to install it :-/
[04:44] <SteveMyers> not sure why the theme manager doesn't open tar.gz files
[04:45] <SteveMyers> the Filter is Theme Files
[04:45] <SteveMyers> wait
[04:45] <SteveMyers> n/m I got it
[04:45] <FunnyLookinHat> sorry, n00b question.  what repository to get w32 codec and all that jazz for media?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> !w32codecs
[04:45] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:45] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[04:45] <ubotu> from memory, multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[04:45] <crimsun> w32codecs is not in an official {K}ubuntu repo
[04:46] <prospero2006> Here's how I do the w32codecs: I install automatix
[04:46] <prospero2006> Then it just shows up on the list
[04:46] <crimsun> I strongly recommend against automatix
[04:46] <SteveMyers> hehe
[04:46] <prospero2006> That's all I know
[04:46] <prospero2006> What's up with that
[04:46] <FunnyLookinHat> thanks!
[04:46] <crimsun> its development process is closed, and its author is not receptive to constructive criticism
[04:46] <prospero2006> My linux machine is firewalled nicely. I'm not worried about a hacker
[04:47] <prospero2006> I read that automatix creates a scret superuser or something
[04:47] <Nirvana> !automatix
[04:47] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:47] <prospero2006> It really doesn't seem to even function
[04:47] <Nirvana> ubotu knows that autmatix is evil
[04:47] <ubotu> Nirvana: okay
[04:48] <prospero2006> I tried to install a few things, but it complains about dpkg and all kinds of other stuff
[04:48] <Nirvana> !easykubuntu
[04:48] <ubotu> Nirvana: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:48] <Nirvana> !easyubuntu
[04:48] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:49] <prospero2006> I went ahead and removed the automatix package then.
[04:49] <prospero2006> I'll take your advice
[04:49] <prospero2006> You know what did screw my machine up --VMware workstation
[04:49] <SteveMyers> it also overwrites your sources.list
[04:50] <SteveMyers> which is not safe
[04:50] <prospero2006> One of the repositories listed by automatix has the w32codecs though
[04:50] <prospero2006> Anyway, VMworkstation brutally pillaged my Ubuntu install
[04:50] <Nirvana> Hey everyone! GOOD NEWS!
[04:50] <Hobbsee> Nirvana: what news?
[04:50] <gamma> saved a bunch of money by switching to gecko?
[04:51] <SteveMyers> lol
[04:51] <prospero2006> Hairy, unshaven barbarians broke into my computer room and began lighting things on fire when I typed 'sh install.sh'
[04:51] <Nirvana> no!!
[04:51] <prospero2006> Be careful
[04:51] <SteveMyers> now - that's just weird lol
[04:52] <Nirvana> one sec, gotta paste:
[04:52] <Nirvana> [22:49]  <Kmirno> Nirvana: use easukubuntu for now, come back to easyubuntu in 2 weeks for fresh news
[04:52] <Nirvana> ^^^^ when I asked if I could use easyubuntu in kubuntu
[04:53] <Nirvana> yay! XD
[04:53] <SteveMyers> Quick question, and Nirvana, I though I got it, but it didn't work. But How do I install a KDE theme using Theme Manager?
[04:53] <gamma> ubuntu isn't easy enough as it is? 0.o
[04:53] <Nirvana> gamma: I know, but this makes it even _easier_
[04:54] <Nirvana> SteveMyers: it is a deKorator theme, you need dekorator
[04:54] <prospero2006> I'm playing with themes now. How do I install them?
[04:55] <gamma> i don't see how one could make ubuntu any easier :P
[04:55] <SteveMyers> Nirvana, where do I get this dekorator at?
[04:55] <metalhedd> how do I upgrade to dapper? is it possible?
[04:55] <prospero2006> THat's a good question
[04:56] <prospero2006> When the dapper release comes out, will we be able to upgrade---
[04:56] <gamma> yes
[04:56] <SteveMyers> I wouldn't
[04:56] <Hobbsee> metalhedd: it's possible now, but there's breakage
[04:56] <SteveMyers> Dapper is safe on Ubuntu, but probably not stable enough on Kybuntu
[04:56] <prospero2006> Will a dapper upgrade just be a matter of using adept?
[04:56] <Hobbsee> SteveMyers: rubbish
[04:56] <gamma> to upgrade to dapper now.. change all the things that say breezy in /etc/apt/source.lst
[04:56] <Nirvana> SteveMyers: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31447
[04:56] <Hobbsee> SteveMyers: it's just as unsafe on either ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:57] <gamma> i wouldn't recommend it though :P
[04:57] <SteveMyers> I helped dev the the kernels on Dapper
[04:57] <SteveMyers> I would know, believe me
[04:57] <Nirvana> gamma: don't forget you have to dist-upgrade after changing breezy to dapper
[04:57] <prospero2006> I'll wait for the stable release then
[04:57] <gamma> Nirvana: i'm assuming people know that
[04:58] <crimsun> SteveMyers: how is it unstable?
[04:58] <Nirvana> gamma: in a world where common sense isn't so common, you can't assume anything.... you can't even assume that I am _not_ watching you type right now, over your shoulder :P
[04:58] <Nirvana> crimsun: Dapper is unstable because it is in development
[04:59] <vijay> hi all, when try to install it is displaying errors plz see http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/552174
[04:59] <crimsun> Nirvana: (yes, I know that, I'm part of ubuntu-dev)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Nirvana: FYI, crimsun is a core dev
[04:59] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:59] <SteveMyers> It's stable crimsun if you know dev
[04:59] <SteveMyers> if not then you're waisting your time
[04:59] <prospero2006> How do I import a new theme to kde 3.5
[04:59] <crimsun> Hobbsee: not core, but thanks for the vote of confidence :)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> oh, well that's what i was told lol
[05:00] <crimsun> SteveMyers: (I thought you had specific reports from experience)
[05:01] <Nirvana> SteveMyers: I sent you the link to dekorator right?
[05:01] <Nirvana> vijay: that means that server is down... try  again later
[05:02] <Nirvana> Nirvana: you talk to much
[05:02] <vijay> Nirvana:ok
[05:03] <Nirvana> lol.. Dapper Drake = Lively Male Duck :P
[05:04] <SteveMyers> crimsun, one sec
[05:04] <SteveMyers> Nirvana, those steps are invalid to deKorator, the folder does not exist
[05:04] <SteveMyers> even if created, the install method doesn't work
[05:04] <thompa> is there something to  fix fonts in kubuntu?
[05:05] <Nirvana> or a well dressed duck... hey! well dressed duck == TUX THE LINUX PENGUIN!
[05:05] <thompa> !fonts
[05:05] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[05:05] <Nirvana> thompa: if by fix you mean change appearence
[05:05] <vijay> hi, any one from hyderabad, India?? i have some problems in firefox with telugu font???
[05:06] <thompa> yes, i know about control center
[05:06] <thompa> it seems like it takes ages to get them right
[05:06] <thompa> if even
[05:06] <Nirvana> ahh, he's quick.. or kuick as it were
[05:06] <Nirvana> damn... Canadian ubuntu repo is STILL down...
[05:06] <angasule> does anyone know how to get fonts to work? I installed some fonts through adept but they don't show up in KDE, only in mozilla
[05:07] <Nirvana> anagsule: how do you know they don't show up in KDE?
[05:07] <Nirvana> tom is a twin :D
[05:08] <_tom> Greetings, looking for some assistance in getting my Alienware Sentia laptop to recognize my dvdrw drive?  Right now, it doesn't "see" the drive at all... any tips/suggestions would be appreciated...
[05:08] <thompa> what is a good font for an lcd, default gives me sans serif, looks ok now i guess?
[05:09] <FunnyLookinHat> if kubuntu doesn't see a drive, nothing can.  ;)
[05:09] <thompa> but the text in this konversation window is making me blind
[05:10] <_tom> Well, I know my /etc/fstab is screwed, b/c its not showing any cdrom/dvd drive at all.. just the normal partitions... I know the drive works, b/c I just tried it out a few days back under suse10 and it works.. should have wrote the settings down but was stupid...
[05:10] <angasule> Nirvana: konqueror and kate don't seem to use it, at least
[05:10] <angasule> Nirvana: it's an unicode IPA font
[05:11] <thompa> i see dist-upgrade has some newer font packages, I will try that first.
[05:11] <_tom> Is there a way to force kubuntu to rescan all hardware?
[05:11] <Nirvana> anyways, I got school tomorrow, tux is the dapper drake, _tom: it will only see the drive if mounted...try puttinga CD into it to check if it automounts... thompa: try Bitstream Vera Sans, or Nimbus... angasule, maybe you have to set konqy and kate to use it? ---------- bye all!
[05:11] <thompa> !hal
[05:11] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.
[05:11] <_tom> Nirvana, no auto mount, dried music cd (commercial), dvd (commercial), data disc nothing...
[05:12] <_tom> the drive sounds like its loading, the lights blink and then silence
[05:12] <thompa> _tom: try adding it to fstab
[05:12] <Nirvana> _tom: weird, try posting in ubuntuforums.org
[05:12] <Nirvana> bye ... again
[05:12] <thompa> i did that and it poped right up
[05:12] <_tom> r u suggesting to uninstall HAL and then reinstall it?
[05:13] <thompa> i remember i had to reinstall hal for some reason once rebooted
[05:13] <thompa> in another distro that worked for me
[05:13] <_tom> ok, I'll give that a shot.. thanks for the tip... be back in a while...
[05:15] <brydenn> can someone help me with installing a KDM theme correctly?
[05:15] <brydenn> trying to do this one: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26718
[05:26] <claw> any one have much experience using wireless with Kubuntu at hotspot cafes?
[05:26] <prospero2006> I have experience with linux and cafe hotspots. What's the questions?
[05:27] <claw> if I change the settings in the system settings I have to reinstall to get the network working again.  What am I doing wrong?
[05:28] <prospero2006> please be more specific
[05:28] <claw> well I have a wrt54g linksys router
[05:29] <claw> works fine after install wep and all
[05:29] <claw> go to friends or a cafe and change the settings in the system settings --> network settings
[05:29] <claw> and it stops working all togather
[05:30] <prospero2006> will it work again at your house?
[05:30] <claw> we all use wep and have no broadcast ssid so you have to set it up manually to make it work
[05:30] <claw> it worked at my house again after reinstall
[05:30] <claw> on it now trying to see what I did wrong
[05:30] <prospero2006> at the command line, what to get when you type ifconfig or iwconfig
[05:31] <claw> lemme see brb
[05:31] <prospero2006> generall you can set your card using the shell if all else fails
[05:32] <claw> what do you want to know from those commands
[05:33] <Vge> !firefox
[05:34] <orangey> hey all. anybody know how I search with beagle?
[05:34] <orangey> Where do I find beagle-search?
[05:34] <Resition> Hello everyone
[05:34] <prospero2006> If you do some reading, you can set everything manually using them
[05:34] <Resition> I just installed kubuntu on my second drive but when I try and boot it, I get grub showing up in command line
[05:35] <Resition> it doesn't boot the OS, am I supposed to type something or?
[05:35] <claw> cool thanks
[05:35] <prospero2006> I have a laptop with slackware. I have bash scripts set up to fire the card
[05:36] <claw> I tryed slackware but had a hellof a time getting the wireless card to even turn on and then couldn't do anything with it
[05:36] <prospero2006> I run slack on 2 machines
[05:36] <prospero2006> My primary server is slack because it is dependable
[05:36] <prospero2006> I'm also used to it
[05:36] <_tom> ok, stupid ? time - my /etc/fstab doesn't list my dvdrw drive, how do I determine what "it" is to place in the /etc/fstab file?
[05:36] <claw> gave up and switched to Kubuntu under a recemendation
[05:37] <prospero2006> I've figured out that ubuntu is awesome for a workstation
[05:37] <Resition> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:37] <prospero2006> I wouldn't run ubuntu as a server though.
[05:37] <claw> I would run slackware if my wireless worked right
[05:37] <prospero2006> What's the wireless card?
[05:38] <claw> TEW-421PC Trendnet with the ACX-111 TI chipset
[05:38] <_tom> I tried to play a music cd (comercian, not a burned/ripped one) and the error msg I got stated that dev/cdrom isn't a valid cd deivce...
[05:38] <Resition> Anyone
[05:38] <Resition> ?
[05:38] <claw> I also have the same problem trying the enter a static IP
[05:39] <prospero2006> http://www.webloguniverse.com/webloguniverse/wardrivinghome.html
[05:39] <prospero2006> good slack wireless tutorial there
[05:39] <Vge> !firefox1.5
[05:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:39] <Resition> Hellooooo.
[05:49] <ubuntu> Need some help getting an x800 pro working in kubuntu 5.10
[05:50] <prospero2006> test
[05:50] <Resition> soo
[05:50] <tester> yes
[05:50] <Resition> still trying to figure this out
[05:50] <_tom> any ideas on how to get a dvd drive to be recognized by Kubuntu?
[05:50] <tester> ati card are bad for linux
[05:52] <_tom> I've removed HAL, reinstalled hal, tried each of my locations under /media (cdrom, cdrom0 and sda1) for hdc and mount -a each time, open drive, closed drive and nothing.. sigh
[05:53] <tester> anyone in here get an ati card working with 3d in here
[05:58] <thompa> i cant seem to paste into konsole?
[05:59] <kkathman> thompa you need to go to the menu, edit, paste
[05:59] <kkathman> not ctrl-v
[06:00] <thompa> ivr tried that
[06:01] <thompa> hmm seems to work now
[06:01] <thompa> i dont think it was copying from konqueror
[06:01] <t3nd0> it seems like the video drivers are incorrect for my 6800gt, are there multiple drivers available for nvidia?
[06:02] <thompa> i have a 6800
[06:02] <t3nd0> what driver do you use?
[06:02] <thompa> i just searched nvidia in adept and installed glx
[06:02] <t3nd0> awesome thank you
[06:03] <thompa> are you in vesa now
[06:03] <t3nd0> i dont know, im a noobie slut this is my first day using kubuntu or kde
[06:03] <t3nd0> i'd really like to know how to get some better themes for the display too :)
[06:03] <thompa> well do you have a kde desktop
[06:03] <t3nd0> isn't enlightenment supposed to be good?
[06:04] <t3nd0> i guess so ?  i have whatever the default is for kubuntu
[06:05] <thompa> i could not get one, and had to first edit xorg.conf change "nv" to "vesa, then I installed nvidia and corrected xorg.conf to "nvidia
[06:06] <kkathman> enlightenment I believe is for gnome, but not sure
[06:06] <thompa> t3nd0: just look for nvidia-glx in adept, install it
[06:07] <t3nd0> yeah i already did that
[06:07] <t3nd0> do i have to edit xorg.conf ?
[06:07] <thompa> To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:07] <boz> thompa, i had good luck installing the nvidia drivers from automatix and had real good luck
[06:07] <_tom> crap crap crap, any ideas on how to get a dvd drive to be recognized by Kubuntu?
[06:07] <t3nd0> awesome i think that worked
[06:08] <thompa> t3nd0: you need to ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:09] <thompa> to restart x, then right click on desktop , configure desktop, try some open gl screensaver
[06:10] <thompa> if it looks cool it works, if not open xorg.conf find line with "nv" change to "nvidia"
[06:10] <thompa> boz: what is automatix?
[06:10] <t3nd0> if i cntrl-alt-backspace will i lose my xchat session??
[06:11] <boz> !automatix
[06:11] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:11] <thompa> t3nd0: yes
[06:11] <boz> al i used were the vidia driver install though
[06:11] <thompa> _tom: is your dvd in /etc/fstab?
[06:11] <boz> <<< rage xl
[06:12] <_tom> I believe it is, I've added the line "/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0"
[06:12] <_tom> then did a "mount -a"
[06:13] <boz> easy ubuntu might also have the nvidia drivers, i can't remember
[06:13] <thompa> _tom: what happens when you put a dvd in?
[06:14] <_tom> I open/close the drive, the lights come on, it whirls for a minute then spins down, no apps start up...its a commercial cd also (to ensure it works)...
[06:14] <thompa> what about a cd?
[06:14] <_tom> its a music-cd.. haven't tried a DVD...
[06:14] <thompa> ok
[06:17] <thompa> _tom: i have  /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:17] <thompa> if that helps any, sorry
[06:18] <_tom> I copied ur settings, mount -a, opened drive, closed drive nothing happened...
[06:19] <thompa> cds are automounted
[06:19] <bzbb> when I tried to setup amaroK with mysql, I messed up the passwords, what's the easiest way to reset mysql?
[06:19] <thompa> i just stick one in and a new window pops up, or it changes to dvd if thats in
[06:19] <_tom> nothing on the desktop...using Kubuntu
[06:19] <bzbb> I don't have any data in it
[06:20] <t3nd0> yay opengl works now thanks guys :)
[06:20] <thompa> great
[06:20] <_tom> just tried a dvd and nothing, same as before...
[06:21] <_tom> I know the dr works b/c it worked fine under windoze and suse 10
[06:21] <_tom> I'm just missing something silly...I know it...
[06:22] <Boohbah_> jshahhahahah
[06:23] <_tom> I just feel so stupid, b/c everything else works, hell even my wifi works and I hera more problems w/ that then w/ a simple silly cd not playing... arg.... :(
[06:23] <_tom> I'm going to shut-down reboot and check out my BIOS, maybe something is turned off/screwy in there...
[06:23] <t3nd0> the ubuntu wiki says to run 'sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad' to enable mp3 but i get this weird error
[06:24] <_tom> so brb in a few...see if I can spout anything new...
[06:27] <thompa> sounds like hal is not working
[06:27] <Boohbah_> t3nd0: what is the weird error
[06:27] <thompa> !ipod
[06:27] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:29] <t3nd0> hold on i think i figured it out
[06:29] <t3nd0> :)
[06:32] <brydenn> i need a laptop. anyone wanna give me one? lol
[06:32] <brydenn> i want a kubuntu notebook ;)
[06:32] <brydenn> this OS rocks
[06:34] <t3nd0> yes this OS rocks bigups to everyone
[06:35] <Hobbsee> hi t3nd0 were you on maybe 8 hours ago?
[06:35] <Hobbsee> or have i mistaken you?
[06:35] <t3nd0> i might have been whats up
[06:35] <t3nd0> im the noobie slut so i probably can't help you with much
[06:35] <brydenn> lol you're female t3nd0
[06:36] <Hobbsee> yeah, and any more bad language, and i'll give you a kickban
[06:36] <Hobbsee> !coc
[06:36] <ubotu> it has been said that coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:36] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: ping
[06:36] <brydenn> lmfao @ Hobbsee
[06:36] <t3nd0> yes im so hawt right now omg
[06:37] <brydenn> the term t3nd0  used isnt really all that bad of a word
[06:37] <brydenn> even the FCC allows it on the air
[06:37] <t3nd0> i didnt think so but i apologize :P
[06:37] <brydenn> bu twhatever
[06:37] <Hobbsee> its' still offensive
[06:37] <brydenn> yah well what's offensive is relative
[06:37] <kkathman> no offensive is what the op says it is, actually :)
[06:38] <kkathman> so it isnt relative
[06:38] <brydenn> hehe @ kkathman
[06:38] <t3nd0> ok
[06:38] <t3nd0> sda2 means sata drive correct?
[06:41] <Hobbsee> i think so, yeah
[06:42] <t3nd0> thats weird it thinks that my secondary ide drive is sata
[06:42] <t3nd0> and only sees a folder called "system volume information" which i seem to remember from windows
[06:42] <kkathman> usually s indicates scsi drives
[06:43] <Hobbsee> ah, is that what it is
[06:43] <kkathman> yah.. I thought so
[06:43] <t3nd0> its not a scsi drive its on the secondary slot of the ide chain
[06:43] <kkathman> hmm
[06:44] <kkathman> i have that same situation, but mine is hdb1
[06:44] <kkathman> my primary HDD is hda
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> pong
[06:45] <t3nd0> this is all so foreign still it takes so long to navigate :)
[06:45] <Hobbsee> heya - ping me if i'm needed
[06:45] <t3nd0> i really like most of the graphics though very top notch design
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> t3nd0: sda2 doesnt mean sata - it means anything on the scsi bus
[06:45] <kkathman> yay I got one right
[06:45] <t3nd0> well if its on an ide cable it cant be on the scsi bus right?
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> scsi is usb, sata, scsi and most removealbe media
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> t3nd0: i would think not
[06:46] <t3nd0> so i wonder why its giving that drive an /dev/sda1
[06:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> t3nd0: sure it's that drive?
[06:48] <t3nd0> yeah i can get to the NTFS drive on the SATA cord just fine, i can't get to the drive on the IDE channel.  there are three drives total the third is running kubuntu on the other IDE slot
[06:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> t3nd0: can you pastebin the output of `cat /proc/partitions`
[06:51] <kkathman> Kamping_Kaiser:  or a sudo fdisk -l will do also
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> kkathman: fine. use sudo then
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> *rants*
[06:51] <sniff> hey peeps!
[06:51] <oddie> hey
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi sniff :)
[06:51] <sniff> i just setup an edubuntu server!
[06:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> wdbtw
[06:52] <kkathman> nah either one works...sorry Kamping_Kaiser
[06:52] <kkathman> didnt mean to interrupt
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> kkathman: i just think using sudo when you don't have to is sill ;)
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> y
[06:52] <oddie> heya anyone know of a thumbnail creater ? for webpages? i just need a prgram that creates a duplicate of the image and resizes it.....
[06:53] <sniff> kamping!
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> sniff: !
[06:53] <sniff> there is a problem, a client can start to load up from the server but then stops :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[06:53] <sniff> please do you have a suggestion?
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> sniff: what do you mean stops? at what point?
[06:56] <sniff> it says "Begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount.....
[06:56] <sniff> then it says "done"
[06:58] <sniff> and that's it, it doens't go anywhere
[07:02] <sniff> what can i do please?
[07:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, sorry
[07:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm trying to multitask, I'm doing badly ;)
[07:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> sniff: are you sure your server has nfs installed properly?
[07:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> and configgered corectly?
[07:02] <sniff> no idea
[07:03] <sniff> i installed the server and that was it
[07:03] <sniff> i followed the wiki guide, but according to this it says everything should be cool. Especially since i set the ip as 192.168.0.x
[07:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. imo ask in #edubuntu, as i have no experiance with edubuntu perse
[07:03] <sniff> yeah there's no one in edubuntu
[07:04] <sniff> but there is you!
[07:05] <t3nd0> Kamping_kaiser: cat /proc/partitions doesnt do anything
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> whta do you mean, doesnt do anything?
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't you have hard drives...
[07:06] <t3nd0> oh whoops sorry my bad
[07:06] <kkathman> lol
[07:06] <kkathman> yah that not doing anything, is like saying Im alive but have no heart
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[07:07] <t3nd0> http://pastebin.com/552245
[07:07] <EightiesK> !qt
[07:07] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[07:08] <t3nd0> if you compare that to http://www.deftek.net/gallery/albums/userpics/drives.jpg its different
[07:08] <t3nd0> im just not sure what to do
[07:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> t3nd0: so you have 2 things on ide, and on scsi
[07:09] <t3nd0> yep
[07:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> 3 hard drives, no cd drive?
[07:10] <t3nd0> two cd drives on a seperate ide channel
[07:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. that looks ok.
[07:12] <t3nd0> but when i click on "sda2" in media there is nothing there
[07:12] <Hobbsee> try /media/sda2 then
[07:12] <t3nd0> and that drive shouldnt be labeled as sda2 in media anyway its not SCSI
[07:12] <ownerx> whats the name for the kde charmap
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> I HATE SYSTEMS THAT MOUNT PARTITIONS IN MEDIA
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, had to get th t off my chest again
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> *that
[07:16] <t3nd0> well like i said the SATA drive works fine
[07:16] <t3nd0> for some reason the other ide drive shows up in media as sda2
[07:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> you mean the 150 gig one?
[07:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> * 115 gig
[07:17] <t3nd0> 115 yeah
[07:17] <t3nd0> its because it doesnt have a mount point right
[07:18] <t3nd0> and the sda2 im seeing in media is actually the other partition on sda1
[07:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> it doesnt have a mount point
[07:18] <t3nd0> hrm i guess i mounted incorrectly somehow
[07:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, sda2 means partition 2 on disc sda
[07:18] <t3nd0> ok how do i control what shows up in media and what is mounted?
[07:19] <t3nd0> fstab?
[07:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> controlling medai a i cant help. mounting stuff is fstab
[07:19] <Boohbah> t3nd0:
[07:20] <Boohbah> i would try fdisk -l to see what ya got
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> why?
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[07:20] <Boohbah> fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> and don't flood :/
[07:20] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[07:20] <Boohbah> he can't find his drives!
[07:20] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:20] <Boohbah> !ubuntu
[07:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't be stupid. he hasnt *mounted * * a * *drive**
[07:20] <Boohbah> !help
[07:21] <Boohbah> oooh Kaiser called me stupid
[07:22] <[Vampis] > morning :)
[07:22] <[Vampis] > kkathman: wee
[07:22] <kkathman> howdy  [Vampis]  :)
[07:22] <kkathman> [Vampis] :  how long you been on kubuntu now?
[07:23] <[Vampis] > The channel? Or the OS ? ;)
[07:23] <kkathman> the OS
[07:23] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: please dont call people stupid.  It only causes problems
[07:23] <[Vampis] > hm *thinking* I installed Kubuntu 2 weeks ago, but I've used ubuntu since warty
[07:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[07:23] <Boohbah> t3nd0: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[07:23] <kkathman> [Vampis] :  ahh kewl...did you use any thing else before then?
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> and i wasnt calling him stupid, i was saying don't be stupid *shrug*
[07:24] <Hobbsee> fair enough, my error
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> np. your bos ;)
[07:24] <[Vampis] > Redhat, along time ago, around redhat 5 (or seven, dont remeber)... also tried gentoo, but that wasnt for me
[07:25] <kkathman> [Vampis] :  so you've been around Linux a while then!!!
[07:25] <[Vampis] > :)
[07:26] <[Vampis] > Well, havent migrated from windows totaly yet... I've got GF, and she wants windows :P
[07:26] <[Vampis] > But on the server and on the laptop its linux only :)
[07:26] <kkathman> [Vampis] :  what do you do for a living?
[07:27] <kkathman> if thats not too personal :)
[07:28] <[Vampis] > I'm studying
[07:28] <[Vampis] > :)
[07:28] <[Vampis] > Software Engineering and Management
[07:28] <kkathman> [Vampis] :  college? or what?
[07:29] <[Vampis] > Yep
[07:29] <[Vampis] > :)
[07:29] <[Vampis] > and u ?
[07:29] <kkathman> [Vampis] :  much success to you!!
[07:29] <kkathman> [Vampis] :  im a technical sales consultant for a software company :)
[07:30] <[Vampis] > aha
[07:30] <[Vampis] > =)
[07:30] <[Vampis] > I've got 1 year left.. :/
[07:32] <t3nd0> i think i've got it figured out
[07:32] <t3nd0> can anyone point me to a useful doc about dual display that would be very nice
[07:33] <ownerx> do any of you guys think kde in ubuntu is buggy
[07:33] <ownerx> compared to kde in other distros
[07:34] <Livewire311> Nobody can have everything they want out of linux.  Or is there somthing out there which is easy and powerfull? Is ubuntu what I should be using?
[07:35] <ownerx> livewire try all the distros
[07:35] <ownerx> and make your own choice
[07:36] <Livewire311> I haven't made any choice yet as none of them I tried yet (Redhat and Debian) have been what I wanted, or I couldn't figure out.
[07:36] <ownerx> ubuntu is easier
[07:36] <ownerx> thats one thing
[07:36] <ownerx> suse is pretty good too
[07:37] <Livewire311> Thats what I am looking for.  I use Win98 mostly because it works 99% of the time, and I can fix whatever goes wrong.  My experience with WinXP over the last year has been a dissapointment.  I am giving up and going linux.
[07:38] <kkathman> win98 is about to be dropped from, microsoft support here shortly
[07:38] <ownerx> win98 lol
[07:38] <t3nd0> i will never completely leave windows, i think that *nix is much better for day-to-day use though
[07:38] <ownerx> at least it was better than winme
[07:38] <Livewire311> I just need some sense that my hardware (Raid and Video Card) and networking (Samba), and applications have some type of similarity to what I am used too.
[07:39] <Livewire311> or compatibility.
[07:39] <Livewire311> to lessen the strain on the transition.
[07:39] <ownerx> have you installed ubuntu yet
[07:40] <Livewire311> no.  I have yet to burn the CD and install it on a machine.
[07:40] <ownerx> oh
[07:40] <ownerx> should try it first
[07:40] <ownerx> there are lots of guides around
[07:40] <Livewire311> then I will poke around with adding and removing programs and then adding and removing hardware.  If I am unable to do those two things, I will abandon it.
[07:41] <Livewire311> Redhat was impossible at both.   Was too complicated, and too much readup.
[07:42] <Livewire311> too many pieces which had to be certain versions for certain software to work or be installed.
[07:42] <ownerx> yeah
[07:42] <ownerx> the repos in ubuntu are pretty good at handling dependencies
[07:42] <Livewire311> thats the word I hear
[07:42] <t3nd0> what player for kde is more like winamp than amarok?
[07:42] <Hobbsee> t3nd0: xmms
[07:43] <ownerx> there is a winamp 5 skin for xmms
[07:43] <ownerx> its great
[07:43] <Hobbsee> well, i think that's a gnome one, but it works fine under kde
[07:43] <ownerx> yes
[07:43] <Livewire311> there are better ways than Winamp.  After using a PDA, I have seen better.
[07:44] <ownerx> amarok is better than winamp
[07:44] <ownerx> but there is a winamp for linux coming out
[07:44] <Livewire311> I will abandon Win98 when I no longer get PIII or lesser PC's on my doorstep for giveaways.
[07:44] <ownerx> currently pre release
[07:45] <Livewire311> My stash of warez for win98 will last for at least 2 more years.
[07:45] <t3nd0> Hobbsee, thanks :)
[07:45] <Hobbsee> t3nd0: no problems
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: xmms isnt Gnome, it's gtk1
[07:46] <Hobbsee> ah, well there you go
[07:46] <t3nd0> i can't find anything about dual display on the wikis
[07:48] <Livewire311> Cheerz all.  I'll be back after installing ubuntu
[07:51] <t3nd0> is there a sound testing app, im not using my motherboard sound i've got an maudio delta 1010LT
[07:51] <t3nd0> i have configured xmms for the ASLA driver and configured it to use that card
[07:53] <ownerx> download some free mp3
[07:53] <ownerx> from download.com
[07:53] <t3nd0> i have mp3s they won't play.  it shows visualization but no sound is coming out
[07:54] <t3nd0> weird in adept i dont even see asla
[07:55] <[Vampis] > alsa
[07:55] <[Vampis] > ?
[07:56] <t3nd0> its an audio driver for linux im guessing :S
[07:57] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[07:57] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[07:57] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:57] <Hobbsee> t3nd0: aplay /path/to/wav/blah.wav
[07:57] <[Vampis] > t3nd0: I know, but you sad asla :P
[08:09] <Hobbsee> !tell brydenn about wireless
[08:13] <rance> Are there any developers in the crowd interested in helping with a Open Source python program Ive decided to create.  Im trying to create a simple invoice generator Im modeling its functionality after I windows program I used to use and it happens to be the only reason I regret getting rid of my windows partition
[08:13] <jarlath> rance, it wouldnt be quickbooks by any chance?
[08:13] <rance> NO
[08:13] <rance> lol
[08:14] <jarlath> hehe
[08:14] <rance> I said simple
[08:15] <jarlath> unfortunately I havent written any code in three years. And I did c++ and java as opposed to python.
[08:16] <jarlath> Time to go to work. See y'all later.
[08:16] <rance> this thing gave you very professional looking invoices, let you create a lists of products, then a list of customers, and then I list of invoices.  You could do aging reports, and customer history type stuff, gonna get rid of all the accounting, and just do the minimum to make the invoices, would like to add the ability to email the invoice (as pdf) to the customer
[08:17] <jarlath> rance: why python?
[08:17] <KaoticEvil> hey... anyone care to offer a little assistance to help me get my kubuntu system back online?
[08:18] <rance> well, it was either python, or php, since I cant contribute as much to my own project if isnt a scripting type language, and I liked the python module setup better than I liked all the seperate php feature packages, that may or may not exist for a given distro,
[08:19] <rance> Kaotic, what seems to be the trouble? and what have you tried so far
[08:20] <rance> so to me, it made some sense that python was a "better" backbone for a project like this
[08:20] <KaoticEvil> rance> well, ive got an Airlink AWD154 wireless pci ethernet card (uses the Marvell 8335 chipset) and im having extreme difficulty in locating a driver for it
[08:20] <KaoticEvil> its not supported natively (obviously, or i wouldnt be asking lol)
[08:21] <rance> although, I could do it faster in php, but faster isnt always better
[08:23] <gleesond> how do I go about adding things to my path.... the .bashrc seems as though its bypassed
[08:23] <KaoticEvil> the only solution ive found thus far involves compiling the kernel... something ive never done, and am extremely nervous about doing... not to mention it would be painfully slow on my 400MHz celeron system...
[08:24] <rance> Not as slow as you think, and that probably is going to be your only option, but compiling a new kernel isnt so bad
[08:24] <KaoticEvil> well, add to that the fact that i cant find the module required... its not listed at the marvell site, and the airnet site is a joke
[08:27] <rance> marvell probably wont be able to help you much since they could have done a "custom" chipset for airnet, and are under contract to keep their mouths shut about it.
[08:27] <rance> (its happened before
[08:27] <KaoticEvil> yeah, i know.. ran into this issue with my ols radeon based sapphire card...
[08:28] <KaoticEvil> i do see something about ndiswrapper and using the WinXP driver... but its all over my head... im a bit of a newb when it comes to linux, im afraid
[08:29] <rance> airnet might just be your only hope if you need the documentation, as too compiling your own kernel, the process itself is pretty easy, get the kernel source code, answer the conguration questions correclty, and make it
[08:29] <rance> its the "answer the questions correctly" part that tends to catch people
[08:29] <KaoticEvil> hmmm... the only docs/drivers/info they have are for windows o_o
[08:32] <rance> sorry I wasnt more help, but I figure your going to have to find somebody whos got that model already and got it working to tell you what they did.  I googled for it and didnt get much (I was surprised about how little I got)
[08:32] <KaoticEvil> thats the same thing i ran into ;)
[08:33] <KaoticEvil> rance> do you have any experience with ndiswrapper?
[08:34] <KaoticEvil> i saw a couple of links that reported it working with ndiswrapper and the WinXP driver... i may have to get vmware working and try it :)
[08:34] <rance> sorry, no, none of my linux boxes are wireless, YET
[08:35] <KaoticEvil> doh
[08:35] <KaoticEvil> ok
[08:35] <KaoticEvil> well, thanks for the help all the same :)
[08:36] <rance> I just bought a new house, and I bet the odds of my wife letting me run cable are somewhere between slim and none, so I might be moving some of my linux stuff to wireless
[08:36] <KaoticEvil> lol
[08:36] <KaoticEvil> well, i recently moved in with my g/f, and of course my computer came with me...
[08:37] <rance> she didnt know what she was getting did she?
[08:37] <KaoticEvil> her computer is in the living room, where the DSL modem is... running CAT5 was out of the question
[08:37] <KaoticEvil> oh, its her DSL modem... she didnt know we were going wireless until i suggested it... as the resident geek in the house, twas my job to find the router/nic's for it :)
[08:38] <rance> I set up my home network, so I set the dsl modem up under my desk, my NAT server is under my desk, and the network switch is under my desk, and the wireless antenna is in this room also
[08:39] <nothanx> resident geek yay
[08:39] <KaoticEvil> lol
[08:39] <KaoticEvil> i have 4 computers to take care of... and soon a couple of laptops as well
[08:39] <KaoticEvil> mine, hers, and the 2 for the kids
[08:40] <rance> my wife nags me because she doesnt understand what all ive done, but I figure shes got no reason to keep dsl if Im not around
[08:40] <KaoticEvil> lol
[08:40] <rance> Im the one downloading all the linux cd iso image files
[08:40] <KaoticEvil> hehehe
[08:40] <KaoticEvil> been there, done that...
[08:41] <KaoticEvil> she wants to try linux, and ive recommended kubuntu, as it is a good one for beginners... but shes afraid of it
[08:41] <KaoticEvil> which is why i *really* want to get mine working fully, so she can play with it, and get used to it
[08:42] <rance> yea, I like kubuntu, only because its tied to the debian software repositiory, way more packages available than with any other binary package based distro, but I still have a warm fuzzy place in my heard for gentoo
[08:42] <rance> heart, sorry, its getting late and my fat fingers are slowing down
[08:42] <stuart> Can anyone help with taskbar?
[08:44] <rance> well guys, its getting late, and I think im going to try sleeping again
[09:07] <juif> hello.. uuhm, i have a windows network, and a linux box in the living room that wants to play mp3s from the network. its all ready with network card and all, but the only cable i have around is twisted pair. any way to make linux compensate so i can use that cable ?
[09:10] <[Vampis] > juif: do you use a switch ?
[09:12] <sniff>  i got the edubuntu ltsp server running and it looks fab. But when the clients load up their fonts and icons are different, doesn't really look any good, does anyone know why this may be?
[09:30] <sniff> hello peeps? can anyone help please?
[09:30] <kkathman> sup sniff
[09:46] <farous> any one using flpsed?
[10:04] <stuart> can someone help with configuring JDE taskbar
[10:04] <stuart> KDE or Gnome
[10:05] <stuart> anyone?
[11:00] <twinoatl> hi
[11:01] <twinoatl> When I launch k3b, I get a warning message that tells me cdrdao will not use root privelegies. I can't see any option to change this
[11:02] <visik7> chmod +s /usr/bin/cdrdao <<UNSAFE>>
[11:03] <twinoatl> visik7: k3b tells me it is unsafe for the burning to let as it is now
[11:04] <visik7> it's unsafe for security reason
[11:04] <visik7> but it's better for burning
[11:05] <twinoatl> ok thanks
[11:06] <twinoatl> ll /usr/bin/cdrdao
[11:06] <twinoatl> -rws--x--x  1 root root 530K 2005-09-28 15:42 /usr/bin/cdrdao
[11:06] <twinoatl> we can see that there is already the 's' bit set
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Hobbsee
[11:07] <Hobbsee> ty Kamping_Kaiser
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> didnt know you were an #ubuntuite now ;)
[11:07] <Hobbsee> what?
[11:10] <twinoatl> visik7: is my cdrdao already configured ?
[11:12] <visik7> twinoatl: configured ?
[11:13] <twinoatl> visik7: is my cdrdao ready to use with maximum burning security ?
[11:13] <twinoatl> -rws--x--x  1 root root 530K 2005-09-28 15:42 /usr/bin/cdrdao
[11:16] <visik7> maybe u don't understand the difference between safe burning and security issues when u suid a bin
[11:52] <Hobbsee> kkathman-zzzz: ping?
[12:22] <tijn> anyone knows the superkaramba theme GlassBarMini?
[12:26] <Melsen> !ubotu quicktime
[12:26] <ubotu> quicktime is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[12:28] <Melsen> Hrmm
[12:29] <Melsen> Anyone here who can tell me how I get quicktime to work through mozilla?
[12:34] <vge> Melsen: personally i use vlc+"mozilla-plugin-vlc"
[12:34] <Melsen> vlc?
[12:35] <vge> well its a movieplayer
[12:35] <Melsen> Im running mplayer currently.....
[12:35] <Melsen> know if that works?
[12:35] <vge> yes
[12:35] <Melsen> know how to _make_ it work then? Because it doesn't for me
[12:36] <vge> your mplayer plays quictime movies?
[12:36] <vge> if so
[12:36] <vge> mozilla-mplayer install this package
[12:36] <Melsen> already done that
[12:36] <vge> ic
[12:36] <Melsen> but when i go to a page with a quicktime movie... fx. www.apple.com/trailers/
[12:37] <Melsen> it just says Im missing a plugin
[12:37] <Melsen> ... Hrmm.. man.. annoying this doesn't work
[12:39] <VincentMX> how do i connect from a windows PC to my Kubuntu Linux box?
[12:39] <VincentMX> for remote acces and stuff
[12:39] <Hobbsee> !ssh
[12:39] <ubotu> I heard ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[12:39] <VincentMX> thnx
[12:39] <Melsen> !quicktime
[12:39] <ubotu> I guess quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[12:40] <Melsen> bah... no good
[12:43] <VincentMX> Hobbsee, can i use X over SSH?
[12:43] <Hobbsee> got no idea sorry
[12:43] <VincentMX> ok
[12:43] <vge> VincentMX: no
[12:44] <VincentMX> ok
[12:44] <vge> Melsen: i just noticed my own videos are not working too in Firefox, gotta fix em soon i think
[12:45] <Melsen> Ahh
[12:45] <Melsen> I see
[12:45] <Melsen> Well, if you figure out how to make it work, please let me know
[12:45] <VincentMX> is there any other way i can remotely use X?
[12:45] <vge> your using Mozilla or FF?
[12:45] <Melsen> firefox
[12:46] <Melsen> Version 1.5.0.1
[12:46] <vge> Viwell you can try https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=446&application=firefox then
[12:46] <vge> VincentMX: from windows to linux or linux to linux?
[12:47] <VincentMX> linux to windows
[12:48] <Melsen> Hey vge : What do I do with this mediaplayerconnectivity-0.5.3.1-fx+fl+ns.xpi I just downloaded from that link you provided?
[12:48] <Melsen> .xpi file?
[12:49] <VincentMX> still there, vge?
[12:49] <vge> yes yes
[12:49] <vge> VincentMX: use xvncviewer
[12:49] <VincentMX> ok
[12:50] <vge> Melsen: when its installed you can change what programs externally opens the videofiles
[12:50] <Melsen> How do I install it?
[12:50] <Melsen> I just download this .xpi file.. no idea what to do with it
[12:50] <vge> its a firefox plugin?
[12:50] <Melsen> So I need to copy it into the plugins dir then?
[12:51] <vge> no, pressing the "install" button in the webpage shoud be enought to open the FF own pluginmanager
[12:52] <Melsen> it doesnt
[12:52] <Melsen> just says 'save as, open with, or cancel'
[12:53] <Melsen> Oh wait
[12:53] <Melsen> works now
[12:53] <Melsen> just opened it with firefox =)
[12:53] <Melsen> hehe
[12:53] <vge> you should also install some other plugins, there are meny really nice ones
[12:53] <Melsen> Any references?
[12:54] <vge> try "Fasterfox"
[12:54] <vge> Addblock
[12:54] <vge> with one d :)
[12:57] <Melsen> AdBlock, or AdBlock Plus?
[12:58] <vge> plus is extencion of adBlock, if im not mistaken
[12:58] <Melsen> k
[01:02] <rosemary> I have two pcs on networked.  For some reason if I shut down kubuntu I have to reset the network - how can i make it stick please?
[01:20] <rosemary> Can anyone tell me how to make the network settings stick after shutting down?
[01:22] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:24] <TuZaR> ko staa mutri
[01:24] <ubijtsa2> kosta boda
[01:24] <TuZaR> AHehA e hAEh Aeha he hAeAe
[01:25] <TuZaR> shte pliokam li neska
[01:25] <ubijtsa2> !kops ?
[01:25] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fooishbar, haggai, amu, uniq, Mez, seth_k, nikkia, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek
[01:25] <Hobbsee> TuZaR: in english?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:26] <rosemary> ubijtsa: what should it read - I set the network using "sudo ifconfig ..."
[01:26] <TuZaR> shh
[01:26] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: one sec
[01:27] <TuZaR> :)
[01:27] <robotgeek> TuZaR: behave :)
[01:28] <TuZaR> how
[01:28] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: did you get the private paste? apologies for the many lines if you did
[01:29] <ubijtsa2> !pastebin
[01:29] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:29] <rosemary> ubijtsa: no - no private paste
[01:30] <rosemary> maybe email me at r.mcgillicuddyatgmail.com
[01:30] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d8592
[01:30] <TuZaR> Fuck me
[01:30] <ubijtsa2> kick time?
[01:30] <TuZaR> ops
[01:30] <Hobbsee> !coc
[01:30] <ubotu> somebody said coc was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:31] <ubijtsa2> robotgeek: ta mucho
[01:31] <Hobbsee> haha robotgeek
[01:31] <Hobbsee> you have one very fast script for that robotgeek!
[01:32] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: did that help - that URL ? :)
[01:32] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:33] <rosemary> ubijtsa: just received it - I am still on dial up!
[01:33] <robotgeek> you can add them together with a ;
[01:33] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: ah, my condoleances
[01:33] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: even in konversation?
[01:33] <farous> aptitude wants to del a package that i need. everythime i reinstall next time i run aptitude it want to delete it. anyone know how to set it not to do so
[01:34] <rosemary> ubijtsa: hopefully only another few days of it!
[01:34] <robotgeek> "/msg chanserv op $0 robotgeek; /kickban $1 ;/msg chanserv op $0 -robotgeek;"
[01:34] <Hobbsee> mmm...kickban - wonder if konv has that
[01:34] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: :)
[01:35] <ubijtsa2> farous: in aptitude, press '=' on the package, and it should get pinned
[01:35] <rosemary> ubijtsa: looks familiar - I use mandriva 2005 on main box and just learning kubuntu.  I will need to insert my own pc numbers though?
[01:35] <farous> ubijtsa2: so i need to use the user interface right. is there a command line for it
[01:35] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: indeed you do
[01:36] <farous> ubijtsa2: i tried lock ver with synaptic. yet next time i ran aptit it still wana remove it
[01:36] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: it screws up when chanserv is slow to respond
[01:36] <ubijtsa2> farous: err, you can probably pin it in /etc/apt/preferences
[01:36] <Hobbsee> ah right
[01:36] <rosemary> ubijtsa: okay thanks - next time I boot it I'll do that.
[01:36] <ubijtsa2> farous: synaptic keeps track of packages independent of aptitude
[01:37] <farous> ok thanx ubijtsa2 will try the aptit way. thanx
[01:37] <ubijtsa2> farous: well, the pinning of them anyway
[01:37] <ubijtsa2> if you want it systemwide, you have to edit /etc/apt/preferences
[01:38] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: hope it helped
[01:38] <keqiuguang> hi
[01:38] <farous> ubijtsa2: ok. aptitude also do not honor packages installed by dpkg. alwasy tell me they are broken. ok off to pin the package then
[01:38] <rosemary> ubijtsa: I'll fire up kubuntu and see
[01:39] <ubijtsa2> farous: that could be the case if you have configured aptitude to automatically mark packages to be upgraded if they can be
[01:39] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: if you get stuck, just ask again :)
[01:41] <rosemary> ubijtsa: thanks I will :-)
[01:42] <rosemary> other question - sony camera is recognised as another model (as it is in mandriva) but what/how do I upload the photos?
[01:43] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: if the camera can be mounted as a mass storage device, you can just copy them off
[01:45] <rosemary> ubijtsa: hmm - maybe I need to do some new learning then.  Does mount as mass storage device I believe
[01:45] <farous> ok done it had to login from my admin account to set it thanx ubijtsa2 also marked automatic removal of unused packages off
[01:45] <farous> i had linux-386 package as broken eh :)
[01:45] <farous> linux-image-386
[01:46] <ubijtsa2> farous: good stuff :)
[01:47] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: you might be able to find it in /media already mounted
[01:48] <rosemary> ubijtsa: I am just trying the network stuff - takes a while as dial-up combined with old P2 that kubuntu is on at present
[01:48] <Ureno> May I know how I can grep for "-s"?
[01:49] <ubijtsa2> Ureno: grep '\-s' ?
[01:49] <ubijtsa2> maybe grep '[-] s' works as well, it does in perl
[01:49] <Ureno> Okay, thanks.
[01:51] <rosemary> ubijtsa: network up again so just need to do the alterations, will check camera
[01:52] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: kewl - let me know how you get on
[01:55] <djib> how do I change the language of kde ?
[01:56] <ubijtsa2> djib: through the "System Settings"
[01:56] <ubijtsa2> in the KDE menu
[01:57] <djib> ok... can't we change it doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[01:57] <ubijtsa2> if you want to change the language of KDE?
[01:57] <djib> well, of all programs in fact
[01:58] <djib> even in konsole
[01:58] <ubuntu> on the new kde live cd it gives me dutch options :::S
[01:58] <ubuntu> is there some boot options to avoid this?
[01:58] <ubijtsa2> pass...
[01:58] <ubuntu> speak=en
[01:58] <ubuntu> or somthing
[01:59] <djib> ubijtsa2 it worked for KDE
[01:59] <djib> but how can I change the whole distro's language ?
[02:00] <ubijtsa2> djib: running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" - or using System Settings ?
[02:00] <djib> I did a dpkg-reconfigure and put the default locale to en_GB
[02:00] <djib> but it did not seem to change it
[02:00] <ubijtsa2> djib: you'd have to change what the console-data stuff is set to, that takes care of the console
[02:01] <ubijtsa2> then you'd have to tell X about your new language if it requires tweaking the xkb layout
[02:02] <djib> oki
[02:02] <ubuntu> is there not a cheat code to do at the start of the live cd
[02:02] <ubijtsa2> then you have to tell KDE, Gnome etc what language they should use, and have the correct language packs installed
[02:02] <ubuntu> kanotix has some code
[02:02] <ubuntu> forget what
[02:03] <ubijtsa2> there are d-i args you can pass on the kernel cmdline for the installer..
[02:04] <ubijtsa2> not sure they will carry through into the live system tho
[02:04] <djib> ubijtsa2 ok, everything seems to work
[02:04] <djib> thanks
[02:04] <ubijtsa2> djib: np
[02:08] <_root> hello
[02:11] <ubijtsa2> mmm, running irc as root
[02:11] <ubijtsa2> someone likes living on the edge
[02:11] <arafat> :-)
[02:11] <LC> When I tried to install a icon theme, the whole X system crashed
[02:24] <sas171> did you allready compile Kopete 0.12?
[02:26] <manas> added the line 'deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu breezy main' as the only line in sources.list. Cannot install kontact now !
[02:26] <manas> is this rep still being updated ?
[02:28] <ahitaa> hola
[02:28] <andred> sas171: do you mean as a kubuntu package?
[02:28] <ahitaa> como puedo acceder los canales?
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ahitaa: English only here please
[02:29] <manas> is kontact present over there ? Is anybody using that rep ?
[02:32] <ahitaa> i'm sorry
[02:35] <rosemary> ubijtsa: copied details from main pc (mandriva) to /etc/network/interfaces and so far rebooting had kept network - thanks
[02:36] <rosemary_> and here I am in second pc - great!
[02:37] <rosemary_> ubijtsa, thanks - yur fix worked for the network not keeping settings
[02:41] <kameron> i'm on a live cd, i want to resize my main partition with qtparted. if i run the program, it doesn't find /dev/hda, and if i chroot to where /dev/hda is mounted, then run qtparted, it doesn't want to resize the drive.. how do i do this?
[02:41] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: good stuff :)
[02:42] <ubijtsa2> kameron: if the disk is mounted, you should not be able to resize it
[02:42] <ubijtsa2> for safety sake
[02:42] <rosemary> ubijtsa: you and some people in #mandriva helped - needed the file contents and for some reason mandriva and debian based distros name things differently
[02:43] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: aye, that is frequently the case..
[02:43] <rosemary> ubijtsa: I remembered that from when I had debain 3.1 installed - a lot of confusion
[02:44] <rosemary> ubijtsa: so are you a "died in the wool" kubuntu user or play with lots of distros?
[02:44] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: I have a mottled background.. :)
[02:45] <rosemary> ubijtsa: something of a chameleon maybe?
[02:45] <ubijtsa2> I am an ubuntero since feature freeze in Hoary
[02:45] <rosemary> I don't know what feature freeze is :-0?
[02:45] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: I have used RedHat, SuSE, TurboLinux, Slackware, Gentoo, ROCK and Debian before
[02:46] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: feature freeze is when the developers stop adding stuff and concentrate on making it work ;)
[02:46] <rosemary> ubijtsa: so far I haven't met many linuxers who haven't experimented :-)
[02:46] <rosemary> aah
[02:47] <rosemary> ubijtsa: if that's the case then I can see why the distro has the reputation it has
[02:47] <ubijtsa2> rosemary: most of us do experiment, to learn. that is probably what pulled us in in the first place
[02:48] <maverick> hi aLL
[02:48] <rosemary> so far I am mainly a mandriva user - it was an easier option for me
[02:48] <rosemary> hi maverick
[02:48] <maverick> hi rose
[02:48] <ubijtsa2> mandriva == Mandrake ?
[02:48] <maverick> anyone here help ,me? ive boot mounted my ntfs partitons but i can only view files..
[02:49] <maverick> i want to d/l movie to the partitons/delete things/and open the files in unrar etc... is this possible?
[02:49] <ubijtsa2> maverick: only if you don't care about the data
[02:49] <rosemary> ubijtsa: yes - the idea of learning and trying something new and different pulls us in - me anyway.  Yes mandriva = mandrake (sort of) connectiva and lycoris have been bought since
[02:49] <maverick> wat ya mean?
[02:49] <maverick> format?
[02:49] <ubijtsa2> maverick: write support for NTFS exists - but will probably eat the data, sooner than later
[02:50] <maverick> oh
[02:50] <maverick> damn
[02:50] <maverick> well whe i installed kubunt it damaged my windows...
[02:50] <ubijtsa2> what can I say, NTFS sucks... only marginally less than fat..
[02:50] <maverick> adn it onyl gave like 1gb in space in the partiton
[02:50] <maverick> soo i cant d/l anything
[02:50] <maverick> and windoes dndt workj :(
[02:51] <ubijtsa2> maverick: what happened in the install?
[02:51] <maverick> well
[02:51] <maverick> i installed kubuntu resized partiton
[02:51] <maverick> then when i went inro windows boot screen it said file was missing
[02:51] <maverick> i tred repairing with disk but no lcuk m:(
[02:52] <ubijtsa2> ah. there are some things Windows store right at the end of the disk
[02:52] <maverick> ?
[02:53] <ubijtsa2> might be the file that is missing was one of them
[02:53] <maverick> oh
[02:53] <maverick> well i like linux
[02:53] <maverick> jsut that
[02:53] <maverick> cant play counterstrike
[02:54] <ubijtsa2> I am not that familiar with all the quirks of Windows - so don't take what I say about it as gospel
[02:54] <maverick> everyhting else i can do
[02:54] <maverick> oky
[02:56] <rosemary> maverick: maybe dual boot with windows to play your game?
[02:56] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, KDE 3.5.1 already in breezy?
[02:56] <rosemary> maverick: I dual boot for scanner and a Family Tree programme
[02:58] <manas> ok. just need to keep the other ubuntu sources. that solved it.
[02:58] <manas> thanks anyways.
[03:01] <ubijtsa2> Psi-Jack: if you use the kubuntu.org repository -yes
[03:08] <Psi-Jack> Heh. nice.
[03:08] <_ideafix_> yes
[03:08] <_ideafix_> very
[03:08] <_ideafix_> much
[03:08] <_ideafix_> so
[03:08] <Psi-Jack> I hear Kubuntu is going feature freeze soon?
[03:09] <_ideafix_> ofcourese
[03:09] <_ideafix_> arafat: are you waiting for sharon ?
[03:10] <_ideafix_> is it true dick as had an hunting acident ?
[03:10] <Psi-Jack> Heh. I'm considering going back to Kubuntu, simply because I'm frustrated, tired, and annoyed trying to use my old methods, and I just plain want a working workstation computer. heh
[03:11] <Psi-Jack> Does Kubuntu dapper run pretty good, any real serious problems or even annoyances with it?
[03:11] <kkathman> Dapper is still development...it will be out in April
[03:11] <kkathman> I'd suggest Psi-Jack you get breezy
[03:11] <Psi-Jack> Yes. I know this. :)
[03:11] <_ideafix_> aprils fouls weeeeee
[03:11] <Psi-Jack> LOL
[03:12] <Psi-Jack> But, still, you can run dapper, if you dist-upgrade to it, I'm sure.
[03:12] <kkathman> if you like the bleeding (and I mean that) then you can get Dapper if you want...but lots of stuff going on
[03:12] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. Just plain safer keeping stable, eh?
[03:12] <kkathman> Psi-Jack:  sure..you can install breezy and go to Dapper later
[03:12] <kkathman> Psi-Jack:  they arent at a freeze yet
[03:13] <digitaldeath> when's the official release of Dapper?
[03:13] <kkathman> April
[03:13] <kkathman> no specific date I dont think yet
[03:13] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Only other thing I can think yet, is what's the most /sane/ sources to use, that still allows for things like decss, win32codecs, etc.. ?
[03:13] <kkathman> it will be version 6.04 (ie 2006, April )
[03:13] <kkathman> !sources
[03:13] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:15] <digitaldeath> kkathman, Cheers - look forward to it!
[03:15] <kkathman> :)
[03:16] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, adding just universe and multiverse will work? for all that I asked?
[03:16] <kkathman> Psi-Jack:  that paste there for breezy, shows ALL of the repos
[03:17] <kkathman> thats why it says "Official sources.list"
[03:17] <Psi-Jack> Heh. Yeah.
[03:17] <kkathman> if you want the kde 3.5 and/or 3.5.1 repositories, you'll need to check at kubuntu.org
[03:18] <Psi-Jack> Right. Okay.
[03:19] <tijn> joen?
[03:19] <DrJoene> tijn!
[03:20] <tijn> :)
[03:23] <Psi-Jack> One more question: Do K/ubuntu packages ever use /opt?
[03:23] <ubijtsa2> Psi-Jack: not normally no
[03:24] <Psi-Jack> Okay, do any of the official packages use /opt? :)
[03:24] <ubijtsa2> not to my knowledge
[03:24] <Psi-Jack> Just making sure. I've gotta plan out a new paritioning plan.
[03:25] <ubijtsa2> thing even
[03:25] <kkathman> Psi-Jack:  the only time /opt is used that I can tell was when I used Xampp to install PHP./MySQL
[03:25] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[03:26] <Psi-Jack> Well, this system I'm considering migrating from Gentoo to Kubuntu is, mostly going to be a workstation, with an OpenLDAP NIS/PAM link to the main server.
[03:26] <kkathman> other distros use /opt for various things tho
[03:26] <Psi-Jack> kkathman: Right. That's why I asked.
[03:26] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I have only a 2gb /opt planned out, which may actually still be quite sufficient.
[03:27] <kkathman> Psi-Jack: I dunno whats "standard" but (k)ubuntu doesnt use it
[03:27] <NRG88> hi, where are those sysmlink, what are used to start programs when i only write their names in Alt+F2 or terminal?
[03:27] <NRG88> in what folder?
[03:27] <kkathman> SUSE for instance puts some system files there...I think RedHat does too...
[03:27] <Psi-Jack> Is 9gb for /usr quite sufficient?
[03:28] <kkathman> NRG88: what symlinks are you talking about...when you create them you tell them where to go
[03:28] <NRG88> i mean that i can start a program form terminal for example, by only typing it's name
[03:29] <NRG88> for example rhide
[03:29] <NRG88> it starts a program
[03:29] <ubijtsa2> Psi-Jack: yeah
[03:29] <NRG88> and i want to delete that
[03:29] <Psi-Jack> Heh, my current partitioning plan I'm using now, basically is 150mb /boot, 2gb /, 9gb /usr, 7gb /var, 2gb /opt, 20gb for my vmware use for windows, and the rest of my 120gb hdd for /home
[03:29] <ubijtsa2> Psi-Jack: I have 6GB for /usr, and I take up 41%
[03:29] <Psi-Jack> Hehe. Yeah.
[03:30] <Psi-Jack> I'm thinking of shaving down the 7gb /var, since I'm pretty sure Kubuntu won't really even come close to filling that.
[03:30] <ubijtsa2> although I have a separate /usr/src of 3G
[03:30] <ubijtsa2> Psi-Jack: depends what you do
[03:31] <Psi-Jack> Like I said, this'll literally be primarily a workstation.
[03:31] <ubijtsa2> squid and apache all stick their stuff in /var
[03:31] <Psi-Jack> No servers.
[03:31] <ubijtsa2> then 3G is adequate for /var
[03:31] <ubijtsa2> more than adequate really
[03:31] <Psi-Jack> Heh. Alright.
[03:32] <kameron> ubijtsa, i don't think the drive is mounted, but i still can't resize it.
[03:32] <ubijtsa2> you could merge / and /boot
[03:32] <Psi-Jack> Nah.. I like having my /boot :)
[03:32] <ubijtsa2> kameron: you won't be able to resize /dev/hda as that is the physical disk, /dev/hda1 on the other hand...
[03:33] <kameron> ubijtsa, /dev/hda1 is what i meant.
[03:33] <ubijtsa2> and you are trying to shrink it yes?
[03:33] <kameron> yeah.
[03:34] <kameron> it's ext3.
[03:34] <ubijtsa2> hmm.. that *should* work if qparted knows about the FS on it
[03:34] <kameron> it does. it's status is showing up as "active".. like it's busy, or mounted or something. but it's not.
[03:34] <ubijtsa2> kameron: then it should work.. what error does it give you?
[03:34] <Psi-Jack> ubijtsa: Thanks for your time and working with me on that. :)  Now I gotta hook up the spare HDD which still has Kubuntu on it, and get some files off it, so I can backup my current gentoo installation off to it, and re-do THIS system. :)
[03:34] <NRG88> kkathman, any suggestions where are those symlinks?
[03:34] <ubijtsa2> Psi-Jack: good luck :)
[03:35] <ubijtsa2> kameron: you are running of a liveCD right?
[03:36] <kkathman> NRG88: what symlinks are you referring to?
[03:36] <kameron> ubijtsa, it's not giving me an error, just when i right click /dev/hda1 to resize, the 'resize' option is shaded out. and it's reported as 'active' -- yes, i'm on knoppix
[03:36] <ubijtsa2> hmm.. do you have lsof available?
[03:37] <kameron> yes.
[03:37] <NRG88> kkathman, i can start a program from terminal, or alt+f2, right? it's because there are symlinks in some folder
[03:37] <NRG88> (by typing only the programs name)
[03:37] <ubijtsa2> kameron: run 'lsof | grep -i hda'
[03:37] <kkathman> NRG88:  no, its because they are installed in directories in your path...most likely in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[03:38] <kkathman> NRG88: there might be symlinks there, but not necessarily
[03:38] <ubijtsa2> kameron: that will tell you if anything has hda open
[03:38] <kameron> nothing ubijtsa
[03:39] <NRG88> kkathman, the if i install something in /usr/bin or /urs/local/bin then i can start it from alt+f2?
[03:39] <kkathman> NRG88: yes
[03:39] <ubijtsa2> kameron: you may require someone more knowlegable than me now..
[03:41] <NRG88> kkathman, :D krusader crashes when i try to access /usr/bin ;)
[03:41] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[03:41] <kkathman> NRG88: are you running krusader at root?
[03:41] <NRG88> yep
[03:42] <NRG88> root mode
[03:42] <MetaMorfoziS> NRG88: krusader is shit... i think, good idea but not the best program:(
[03:42] <NRG88> it crashes at /dev/ to :
[03:42] <NRG88> D
[03:42] <MetaMorfoziS> slowly loads and crashes often
[03:42] <kkathman> NRG88: krusader is fine
[03:42] <NRG88> i think it's a bug
[03:42] <kkathman> its never crashed on me in either ubuntu or SUSE so thats crap
[03:42] <kkathman> not a bug
[03:42] <NRG88> MetaMorfoziS, krusader's search is slow like hell :)
[03:42] <MetaMorfoziS> krusader is slow like hell:)
[03:42] <kkathman> no
[03:42] <MetaMorfoziS> at boot
[03:43] <kkathman> its not, you have to configure it correctly if you just read
[03:43] <kkathman> and there is a one time start
[03:43] <kkathman> geez
[03:43] <maverick> guys is there anyway i can
[03:43] <maverick> resize my kubutu partion?
[03:43] <maverick> and make it bigger from my ntfs partitons?
[03:43] <kkathman> plus, be sure you are running the most recent version of krusader, the one in the repos is not
[03:44] <NRG88> :)
[03:44] <NRG88> kkathman, can i check in a debian package, where does it install things?
[03:44] <kkathman> by standard, in /usr/bin
[03:45] <kkathman> if its packaged properly
[03:45] <NRG88> it install's in some doc folder to i think
[03:48] <kameron> hmm, i think i'll reboot and try again.
[03:48] <ubijtsa2> NRG88: if already installed, dpkg -L <packagename>, will tell you
[03:49] <NRG88> thanks
[03:49] <NRG88> forgot this :)
[03:49] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm..
[03:49] <Psi-Jack> ReiserFS doesn't seem to handle writing large files very well. Heh. Bogs my entire system down.
[03:50] <Psi-Jack> Does XFS do a better job writing, than reiserfs does? Especially large files, like DVD images?
[03:50] <NRG88> how can i unzip with tar, to create a new folder, and place the contents of the archive in it?
[03:50] <Psi-Jack> tar doesn't unzip.
[03:50] <Psi-Jack> use unzip to unzip .zip files.
[03:51] <NRG88> i mean unpack :D
[03:51] <NRG88> sorry, i'm bit exhausted
[03:51] <Psi-Jack> As for that.. tar won't create the dir for you, mkdir it, then tar xvfz file.tar -C /path/to/directory
[03:51] <kkathman> if its a gz file...use tar xvzf filename    if its a bz2   tar xvjf filename
[03:52] <NRG88> ok, thanks
[03:52] <Psi-Jack> -C tells it where to unpack TO.
[03:52] <Psi-Jack> man tar is very useful. :)
[03:52] <freeflying-ibook> robotgeek_zzz: hi
[03:52] <Psi-Jack> Anyway. Anyone for my question? :)
[03:53] <freeflying-ibook> robotgeek_zzz:would you give some advice for sound on ibook
[03:54] <feistel> hi
[03:54] <feistel> I need build my own Kubuntu based distribution
[03:54] <feistel> but I have problems with ubuntu-keyring package
[03:54] <feistel> anyone here can help me, pleasE?
[03:54] <feistel> thanks
[04:03] <eder> hello
[04:03] <eder> i'm brazilian
[04:03] <eder> i'm not understand english very well
[04:04] <eder> hello?
[04:04] <wincide> hi eder
[04:04] <eder> are you brazilian?
[04:04] <wincide> come to #kubuntu-es and eu tratarei de ajudar a vc :)
[04:04] <eder> okkk
[04:04] <eder> tanks
[04:04] <wincide> son espanhol, mais falo um pouco de portugues
[04:05] <wincide> e aca  melhor falar ingles
[04:05] <wincide> :P
[04:05] <eder> join #kubuntu-es
[04:05] <eder> opa
[04:05] <eder> q viajem
[04:05] <eder> auahauah
[04:06] <freeflying-ibook> how to play mp3 file on kubntu ppc
[04:06] <thompa> !automount
[04:06] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thompa
[04:06] <thompa> !hal
[04:06] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.
[04:07] <Howitzer> grep: /lib/libacl.la: No such file or directory
[04:07] <Howitzer> /bin/sed: can't read /lib/libacl.la: No such file or directory
[04:07] <Howitzer> libtool: link: `/lib/libacl.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[04:07] <Howitzer> where do i get libal.la?
[04:07] <thompa> !udev
[04:07] <ubotu> methinks udev is a server used in Ubuntu (and other distros) that manages device nodes
[04:07] <Howitzer> libacl isn't in the ubuntu repo's
[04:07] <kameron> has anyone used qtparted to resize their main partition from a live cd?
[04:07] <thompa> i dont understand why there is no automounting for a distro considered easy
[04:08] <Howitzer> !libacl
[04:08] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Howitzer
[04:16] <lazybug> how do i control udp in firestarter?
[04:18] <Armagguedes> yo
[04:18] <Armagguedes> how can i read ISO9660:1999 dvds on ubuntu? i have a bunch of discs recorded on that filesystem and i cant read them
[04:20] <orion_fr_24> !rar
[04:20] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:24] <trappist> I'm sure I used to be able to hit ctrl-alt-escape for xkill.  where'd that go, or how could I restore it?
[04:25] <Armagguedes> isn't it ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:27] <trappist> no, that's to kill X - xkill kills whatever window you click on with its skull-and-crossbones cursor
[04:31] <vge> trappist: Kill window is a KDE shortcut, you can find it in kcontrol
[04:31] <trappist> cool, thanks
[04:31] <eder> ola
[04:32] <eder> in kcmshell lanbrowser, i insert name and pass to windows shares
[04:32] <eder> but
[04:33] <eder> i need insert the "dominio"
[04:36] <Armagguedes> the "domain"
[04:37] <betty> salve:)
[04:40] <Sh4d0x> hi
[04:40] <Sh4d0x> i'm new on kubuntu
[04:40] <Sh4d0x> where can i change the theme's?
[04:41] <VincentMX> hi Sh4D0x
[04:41] <Sh4d0x> hi VincenMX
[04:41] <VincentMX> click on the K menu, and then click System Settings
[04:42] <Sh4d0x> thnQ, nxt menu is appearance :D i got it
[04:42] <Sh4d0x> thnQ once again :)
[04:42] <VincentMX> np
[04:42] <VincentMX> np
[04:42] <VincentMX> :D
[04:43] <Sh4d0x> i'm used to ubuntu, i'm on kubuntu cuz it's more graphically, but there are a few differences :)
[04:44] <VincentMX> ok
[04:45] <VincentMX> Sh4d0x, do you speak dutch or french?
[04:45] <Sh4d0x> VincentMX, both, i'm from belgium :) we are suppose to speak many languages =D
[04:46] <VincentMX> ok
[04:46] <VincentMX> there are channels such as #kubuntu-fr and #kubuntu-nl for support in your own language
[04:47] <VincentMX> :D
[04:47] <Tm_T> how I can disable kdm theme
[04:47] <Sh4d0x> VincentMX, i know :D but i prefere the general channels, cuz in the dutch one, people are "lazy" they don't answer that fast :D
[04:48] (VincentMX/#kubuntu) it's a dutch/flemish channel
[04:49] (VincentMX/#kubuntu) and #kubuntu-fr is french
[04:50] <VincentMX> still there, Sh4d0x?
[04:50] <Sh4d0x> VincentMX, yap
[04:50] <Sh4d0x> VincentMX, but in #ubuntu-nl it's different :)
[04:50] <VincentMX> ok
[04:50] <VincentMX> yes, #ubuntu-nl...
[04:51] <VincentMX> been there, but i'm banned
[04:51] <VincentMX> becouse i said i like kde better as gnome
[04:51] <Sh4d0x> VincentMX, last time  I asked about irda (wanted it to use for synchronisation for my sek700i) not a single answer :(((((
[04:51] <VincentMX> :/
[04:51] <Sh4d0x> lol, r u serious?
[04:51] <VincentMX> maybe they were busy
[04:51] <VincentMX> yeah
[04:51] <Sh4d0x> strange boys
[04:52] <VincentMX> indeed
[04:52] <VincentMX> if they'd be girls... that would be nice...
[04:52] <VincentMX> but i do have a lot of fantasy
[04:52] <VincentMX> :D
[04:52] <Sh4d0x> =D
[04:52] <Sh4d0x> me 2
[04:53] <Sh4d0x> that's why i'm a designer :D being creative with my fantasie
[04:53] <VincentMX> :D
[04:53] <Sh4d0x> (to get back on topic) using some id's from os's like kubuntu :D
[04:53] <VincentMX> don't designers use Macintosh?
[04:53] <VincentMX> Mac rules
[04:53] <Sh4d0x> idd
[04:53] <tijn> meh
[04:53] <VincentMX> yo tijn
[04:54] <tijn> hey
[04:54] <Sh4d0x> i'm on dualboot, mac/ubuntu (/kubuntu)
[04:54] <VincentMX> ok
[04:54] <digitaldeath> Macs are good - but they are over-priced!
[04:54] <Sh4d0x> not true!!
[04:54] <sharket> lo
[04:54] <Sh4d0x> i payed my powerbook 1600 1 gb ram
[04:54] <VincentMX> wish i could have dual boot Kubuntu/BeOS on my PC. but i only have a 6 gig hard drive
[04:55] <VincentMX> :D
[04:55] <Sh4d0x> mine is 80 ^^
[04:55] <VincentMX> :D
[04:55] <digitaldeath> Sh4d0x, That's still expensive!
[04:55] <VincentMX> i'm going to buy a secondhand powerbook
[04:55] <Sh4d0x> digitaldeath, are you kidding??
[04:56] <Sh4d0x> digitaldeath, what do you think is the price for a normal notebook? :)
[04:56] <VincentMX> a Lamborghini Diablo is expensive
[04:56] <VincentMX> but it's a great car
[04:57] <Sh4d0x> naah, love my a3 :D
[04:57] <VincentMX> audi rules 2
[04:57] <digitaldeath> Sh4d0x, Well I picked one up for 1000 Euro with 1Gb of RAM!
[04:57] <VincentMX> yes, but that's not PPC. that's x86. x86 is way slower
[04:58] <VincentMX> PPC = RISC
[04:58] <VincentMX> x86 = CISC
[04:58] <digitaldeath> VincentMX, I know the differences! I don't like proprietory Operating systems and hardware which is what PPC is!
[04:59] <VincentMX> ok
[05:00] <digitaldeath> It's cheaper to buy a great second-hand laptop and throw Kubuntu on it!
[05:00] <VincentMX> ok
[05:01] <Sh4d0x> digitaldeath, that's true
[05:01] <Sh4d0x> digitaldeath, but you should know from who you buy one
[05:01] <digitaldeath> Sh4d0x, That's true too!
[05:02] <Sh4d0x> brb
[05:10] <ubijtsa2> PowerPC is proprietory and ia32 isn't? c'mon...
[05:12] <catalin> hello everyone....
[05:13] <catalin> i will like to install azureus in kubuntu....can anyone to help me/
[05:14] <khs> hi
[05:14] <catalin> hello
[05:14] <khs> i have hp pavilion zv6000-series laptop and i just installed kubuntu to it
[05:14] <catalin> k
[05:15] <khs> i have two problems: 1. x is not starting
[05:15] <catalin> k
[05:15] <catalin> go on
[05:15] <khs> blah
[05:15] <dell500> OH YA!! Slam into a slim jim!
[05:16] <khs> umm. what do i have to install to get mouse work in terminal?
[05:16] <catalin> i really don,t know
[05:16] <khs> ah. gpm
[05:17] <catalin> normaly shut work
[05:17] <khs> catalin: dont be a troll ;P
[05:17] <catalin> k
[05:21] <brrr> hi
[05:23] <VincentMX> yo brrr
[05:26] <khs> does anyone have sb audigy2 zs notebook-sound card?
[05:54] <kavit> Can one use e17 as a window manager with kde 3.5 instead of kwin??
[05:55] <Riddell> ** please test amarok beta on dapper   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta1/ dapper main
[05:57] <trappist> Riddell: cool
[05:58] <jarlath> Riddell: wow, those things get packaged fast! It was only released yesterday.
[05:59] <trappist> jarlath: they had the whole kde5 out about that fast
[05:59] <trappist> err 3.5
[05:59] <jarlath> hehe, that would have been faster than the kde team :)
[05:59] <jarlath> Thats amazing though. Im not used to that.
[06:03] <trollig> amarok-gstreamer depends on amarok (= 2:1.3.8-0ubuntu1)
[06:03] <trollig> Suggest 3 keeps
[06:04] <dipnlik> i want to mount a shared drive as rw for all users, my fstab line is: //192.168.0.1/d /media/server/d smbfs rw       0 0 , what should I change?
[06:05] <dipnlik> this way it is being mounted as ro for user, rw only for root
[06:05] <Riddell> trappist: well I need people to test them before I can announce them
[06:06] <maverick> is everyone on dapper des days?
[06:06] <trollig> many?
[06:08] <trollig> oh, that was 1.3.8 and such :-)
[06:09] <trollig> I tried a dist-upgrade on a laptop yesterday and didn't stumble over too many errors :-)
[06:10] <trollig> but it was a 842mb download
[06:10] <ubijtsa2> yeah, problem is I can't deal with errors unless they are fixable in a minute or two
[06:10] <ubijtsa2> I have to much else I have to do :(
[06:11] <trollig> oh, they where fixable. Just deselect the revolting packages and install them again afterwards
[06:11] <ubijtsa2> hmm.. might give it a shot towards the end of the week, if all pans out
[06:12] <trollig> kword, openoffice.org2-kde,network-manager,... the rest I don't remember
[06:13] <ubijtsa2> hmm.. will have to look at how big the DL will be
[06:15] <Riddell> trollig: what sort of errors?
[06:15] <trollig> dependency errors. Just was trying to install it in the wrong order I suppose
[06:16] <Riddell> apt should sort those out for you
[06:16] <Riddell> if you get such errors please copy them and send them my way
[06:16] <trollig> aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:17] <Armagguedes> how can i read ISO9660:1999 dvds on ubuntu? i have a bunch of discs recorded on that filesystem and i cant read them
[06:17] <trollig> amarok 1.4beta running and working on amd64 so far
[06:17] <tchize> what is iso9660:1999?
[06:18] <Riddell> trollig: excellent, thanks
[06:18] <Armagguedes> there's ISO9660, but in Nero you can use ISO9660:1999 (probably a revision done in '99) that boots filename lenght to 207 chars
[06:19] <Armagguedes> and i cant read those discs in Kubuntu
[06:19] <trollig> Riddell: When I get to that notebook again I mail you that aptitude.log
[06:19] <tchize> isn't it the joliet extension?
[06:19] <Armagguedes> So i was wondering if there was any way i could add that filesystem to ubuntu
[06:19] <Armagguedes> no. its a different one
[06:20] <david> hello, I understand kubuntu releases every 6 months, do you know when the next release will be? and is that togethor with ubuntu?
[06:20] <ubijtsa2> david: April
[06:20] <Armagguedes> (and the new nero7 uses by default yet another CDFS that even XP cant read, because i burned 2 discs without looking and now i cant read them anywhere but the pc they were burned on)
[06:20] <ubijtsa2> and yes
[06:20] <david> ubijtsa2: thanks
[06:21] <ubijtsa2> david: np
[06:22] <marseillai> Riddell: i've got this bug-report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/30579 and someone just told me that hibernation work well with a default installation of ubuntu (gnome) so the bug must be a kubuntu-bug! where ou what bug-report i must do ?
[06:22] <tchize> Armagguedes: iso9660 is assumed to be usi9660 version 4 , i think kernel is supposed to handle it :/
[06:23] <tchize> sorry i mean level 4 no version 4, in fact it's version 2 but mkisofs assume level 4 :)
[06:23] <Riddell> marseillai: does using pmi by itself work?  (pmi action hibernate)
[06:23] <marseillai> nop
[06:23] <marseillai> does the same thing
[06:24] <Riddell> then it shouldn't work in gnome either
[06:24] <Armagguedes> it should but it doesnt
[06:24] <marseillai> Riddell: a man told me it works out of the box with ubuntu
[06:25] <marseillai> i'm asking him some details but there nothing different in our two installation!
[06:25] <tchize> Armagguedes: did you try a manual mount (maybe as it's a DVD automount is trying to mount a udf)
[06:25] <marseillai> i'll try reinstall kubuntu
[06:25] <Armagguedes> no
[06:25] <Armagguedes> how is that done
[06:26] <Armagguedes>                                                                                                                                                       .
[06:26] <Armagguedes> ~
[06:26] <Armagguedes> ups
[06:26] <tchize> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/<dvd device>  /mount/point
[06:26] <Armagguedes> y   sru
[06:27] <tchize> bbl
[06:27] <Armagguedes> one should not simply alcohol-clean his keyboard while it is plugged on into mordor
[06:27] <Armagguedes> =)
[06:27] <drummer> Help!!!  Logged on this morning and my system said no sound  /dev/dsp permission denied!  I cannot run Synaptic.  Other things requiring root access respond with "Conversation with su failed." when i type in my sudo password.
[06:28] <trollig> drummer: you sound panic stricken
[06:28] <drummer> trollig: Feel like too!
[06:28] <Armagguedes> one does not simply sudo into mordor
[06:29] <Riddell> marseillai: these things are effected by 100 different things, it's quite possible the other person has a different firmware version or something which does let it work.  if you install ubuntu-desktop you can test to see if it's a kubuntu only issue
[06:30] <marseillai> oki 'ill try as soon as possible Riddell and i tell you ....
[06:35] <drummer> trollig:  Any words of wisdom?
[06:36] <trollig> drummer: well, with the information provided I suggest some more precise investigation
[06:36] <jeroenvrp> hi folks
[06:37] <jeroenvrp> what is gam-server?
[06:37] <trollig> drummer: you don't even tell us what changed from yesterday to today on what system for example
[06:39] <trollig> I don't know how to scry
[06:39] <trollig> sorry
[06:40] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[06:40] <LinuxJones> mmm, None of the kde system settings will give me administrative control, what's up with that ?
[06:40] <Psi-Jack> !sources
[06:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:41] <trollig> !easysource
[06:41] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:42] <Psi-Jack> Sometimes, I hate the source-o-matic.
[06:42] <trollig> never tried it
[06:42] <Psi-Jack> It tends to introduce conflicting incompatible packages. That's bad.
[06:43] <Psi-Jack> But, DANG. Kubuntu is broken as heck on initial install. :/
[06:44] <drummer> trollig:  I ran the standard updates/upgrades in synaptic about 3 days ago.
[06:45] <Riddell> Psi-Jack: what's broken?
[06:45] <Psi-Jack> Riddell: KDE, mostly.
[06:45] <Riddell> Psi-Jack: in which way?
[06:45] <Psi-Jack> I tried to change the network settings so it didn't use DHCP, and it would never save the default route.
[06:46] <Riddell> known problem, fixed in dapper and 3.5 packages
[06:46] <Psi-Jack> Heh, well, yeah, I know that.
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> I just can't believe a release like this is out, and no corrective cd images for it.
[06:47] <_anilk> when can kubuntu users move to dapper
[06:47] <Riddell> Psi-Jack: for 1 bug?
[06:47] <Riddell> _anilk: whenever you like
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> For a major one, yes.
[06:47] <_anilk> tried moving to dapper but upgrade tried to remove kde
[06:47] <LinuxJones> Can someone tell me why I can't get administrative control to any of the kde modules, via the System Settings config utilities ?
[06:47] <trollig> but in dapper it's not very much _just works_ to find out how to change the dns server settings despite having them in interfaces
[06:48] <jeroenvrp> what happens when I kill the gam-server?
[06:48] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Doing an upgrade do official sources. heh
[06:49] <_anilk> i didnot get it
[06:49] <Howitzer> How do i re-add the KMenu to ksmoothdocker?
[06:50] <Howitzer> no wait
[06:50] <Howitzer> let me rephrase
[06:50] <Howitzer> where can ik find the KMenu executable?
[06:50] <_anilk> tried moving to dapper but upgrade tried to REMOVE kde
[06:51] <trollig> _anilk: with me it didn't try that yesterday. I used aptitude
[06:51] <Psi-Jack> Riddell: I call it major, because trying to re-load the network settings in administrator mode, AFTER changing it to manual set, instead of dhcp, will not work. Had I not been linux savy, I'd not known that I could sudo systemsettings, to load that up as root to correct it.
[06:51] <_anilk> ok, i will give another try. thanks.
[06:59] <Howitzer> where can ik find the KMenu executable?
[06:59] <Psi-Jack> kmenu executable?
[06:59] <Psi-Jack> Do you mean kmenuedit, the KMenu Editor?
[07:03] <Armagguedes>    (does he mean the file itself, if there is such a thing?)
[07:03] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, exactly.
[07:04] <bam_> is there a keymapper for kde? like assigning keys to custom thhingies?
[07:04] <Armagguedes> does anyone know if the wireless network bug is fixed in dapper?
[07:05] <Psi-Jack> bam_: Like what? You can do most global shortcuts in KMenuEditor itself.
[07:05] <Armagguedes> sudo kcntrol into it, "enable debice" but it desables itself automagically immediatly after.
[07:05] <bam_> hmm, lemme check there then..
[07:05] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[07:06] <Psi-Jack> I need to figure out how to properly get ALSA to load my sound drivers in the right order... Again. :/
[07:07] <bam_> actually not there, looks like,\
[07:07] <Psi-Jack> bam_: What exactly are you trying to do?
[07:07] <bam_> I would like to assign the windoz key the the kde menu button
[07:07] <Psi-Jack> bam_: That'll be in kcontrol. One sec.
[07:07] <tchize> Armagguedes: does it work now?
[07:08] <Howitzer> Armagguedes: , i accidently removed it from ksmoothdocker
[07:08] <Howitzer> and i want to get it back :(
[07:08] <Psi-Jack> bam_: kcontrol, Regional->Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:08] <bam_> thanks
[07:09] <Armagguedes> tchize i dont know, ive uninstalled kubuntu because i *NEED* working wifi support
[07:09] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I now realize, why I like kde 3.5.
[07:10] <Armagguedes> and since in kub. the wifi card doesnt stay enabled, i had to scrap it
[07:10] <Howitzer> is it worth to update KDE?
[07:10] <Psi-Jack> kmix can actually bind global hotkeys to my volume control on my keyboard. ;)
[07:10] <Psi-Jack> Howitzer: Most definately.
[07:10] <Howitzer> i have KDE3.5.0
[07:11] <Howitzer> .on a 2.6.12-9-386 kernel
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> I'll still say yet, especially since 3.5.1 is officially from Kubuntu for Breezy
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> s/yet/yes
[07:14] <tecs> hi, is it a must to have a firewall installed when using lkinux?
[07:15] <Psi-Jack> tecs: You already have a firewall, built right into the linux kernel. All that's left is to configure it. ;)
[07:15] <tecs> i see, so i really dont have to isntall after market firewalls like in windows. because im new and the reason i switched to linux is to be spyware and virus free
[07:16] <Armagguedes> Psi-Jack thats the hard part
[07:16] <Psi-Jack> Heh. Linux has it's own firewall built-in.
[07:16] <Armagguedes> where can we find a nice noob-friendly tutorial/howto/faq to do it
[07:16] <Psi-Jack> Armagguedes: Well, yeah. I didn't say it was /easy/.
[07:16] <Psi-Jack> There are, I've heard, fairly decent front-end GUI's for managing iptables/netfilter.
[07:16] <Armagguedes> for instances how does firestarter relate to that firewall
[07:17] <Psi-Jack> Well, firestarter manages iptables rulesets.
[07:18] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. The deb sources on Kubuntu's site, regarding 3.5.1, are /all/ of those required, or are they just package mirrors?
[07:19] <Psi-Jack> Welcome back, kkathman.
[07:20] <uniq> tecs: i recommend using 'guarddog'. it's a nice and easy understandable gui to configure iptables firewalls.
[07:20] <nat> hi is someone is using vmplayer with qemu image ?
[07:20] <bam_> has anyone done a right mouse button click to launch the kde menu?
[07:21] <Psi-Jack> bam_: Eh?
[07:23] <bam_> like fluxbox, right mouse on desktop pops up the menu..
[07:23] <Psi-Jack> That would defeat the purpose of the desktop konqueror.
[07:23] <tchize> right mouse on my desktop pops up desktop menu :)
[07:23] <bam_> kde?
[07:23] <tchize> kdesktop
[07:23] <bam_> how?
[07:24] <tchize> well i has lock station, disconnect, setup desktop and so on
[07:24] <tchize> i think it's the default behaviour :/
[07:24] <Psi-Jack> It is.
[07:25] <Psi-Jack> Like I said. What bam_'s asking for defeats the purpose of kdesktop.
[07:25] <bam_> nah its just a roaming menu is all...:)
[07:25] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. Those suck, IMHO.
[07:25] <tchize> bam_ : system settings -> desktop ->  behaviour , there is the action configuration area for all 3 mouse buttons
[07:26] <vge> how do i create a resque cd for my kubuntu? i need to remove a windows partition, but that partition has the MBR, so i need to rewrite grup afterwards?
[07:26] <bam_> hmmm, cool lemme se
[07:26] <Psi-Jack> Cool, first upgrade nearly complete.
[07:27] <tchize> vge: use the install disk, at startup instead of pressing 'enter' type 'rescue enter'
[07:28] <tchize> it will allows you to recreate your grub mbr
[07:28] <jbaloul> is keyboard layout brocken in dapper?
[07:28] <vge> tchize: ty
[07:28] <tchize> vge there is an official doc but can't remember :)
[07:28] <tchize> !grub
[07:28] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:29] <tchize> here it is, second link ;)
[07:30] <tchize> my kde is beeping thru the pc speaker, how can i set it to go to sound card?
[07:33] <Psi-Jack> Next update, KDE 3.5.1. mmmm
[07:34] <monteiro> which is the best webcam to work with kubuntu ?
[07:34] <Armagguedes> webcams are a really *really* bad idea
[07:35] <Psi-Jack> Armagguedes: LOL. Now that's one I haven't heard of.
[07:35] <Psi-Jack> Armagguedes: Explain yourself.
[07:35] <Armagguedes> they have "leaked girlfriend porn" written all over them
[07:35] <Psi-Jack> Ummm. Yeah. Armagguedes.
[07:36] <Armagguedes> anyway laters
[07:37] <Gavrila> hi there is there any kde 3.5 backport for breezy?
[07:37] <tchize> webcams are funny to play with movement detection algorithms :)
[07:37] <Psi-Jack> Gavrila: Have you even read the channel topic, or been to kubuntu.org?
[07:38] <Gavrila> yes I read the cannel topic and been to kubuntu.org too but I even updating thhe source list as suggested I still see 3.4.3
[07:38] <Gavrila> (btw in the channel topic I can't see a word about kde 3.5)
[07:38] <Psi-Jack> Then you're doing something wrong. :p
[07:38] <Psi-Jack> KDE 3.5.1 and KOffice 1.5 beta out (kword now fixed)
[07:38] <Psi-Jack> First part of the topic.
[07:39] <Gavrila> Sorry t didn't seem to me like "3.5 beta ready for breezy backports"
[07:40] <Gavrila> anyway I'm just updating from backports and I'm downloading 3.4.3
[07:40] <Psi-Jack> I'm getting 3.5.1 right now.
[07:40] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[07:40] <Gavrila> I'm using archives.ubuntu.com breezy-backports isn't it right?
[07:41] <MetaMorfoziS> i have a (i think driver)problem  about the main command line
[07:41] <MetaMorfoziS> if i press ctrl alt f1 or sg
[07:41] <MetaMorfoziS> it is a brutal screen with lines
[07:41] <MetaMorfoziS> and black r pink background
[07:41] <MetaMorfoziS> so i'm isn't see the console
[07:41] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody any idea?
[07:42] <MetaMorfoziS> @ home it1s work, but at this notebook it isn't.
[07:46] <peratu> Hi.
[07:48] <peratu> I can't install kubuntu-ppc. I have the dvd of kubuntu dapper. I select 'install' or 'expert' , but always crashes.
[07:48] <peratu> cannot allocate PCI device.
[07:49] <iceman> hi
[07:50] <_asd> how can i burn an iso to a cd??
[07:51] <Psi-Jack> peratu: Dapper is not considered stable.
[07:52] <Psi-Jack> _asd: k3b can do that.
[07:52] <peratu> Psi-Jack , ok. I will try a stable.
[07:52] <_asd> oh right thx
[07:52] <m_tadeu> hi....i'm unable to mount an ext3 partition...can anyone help?
[07:53] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: More details?
[07:54] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: The system reported: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, missing codepage or other error
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Is this a filesystem that is in fstab, or are you using strictly command-line to mount it?
[07:55] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: in fstab...want the line?
[07:55] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Yes
[07:55] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: /dev/hda2 /media/shared1 ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0 1
[07:56] <Psi-Jack> My god.
[07:56] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Why do you have all those options?
[07:57] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: just copied from the / partion, made by kubuntu
[07:57] <Phazeman> hi. i've upgraded to dapper and since then i can't start X as my own user. i used to get X started after boot but no more :( can someone please help ?
[07:57] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, Kubuntu, for me, just uses "defaults"
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: I recommend using defaults, as well.
[07:58] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: let me try...you mean defaults, only, right?
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: correct.
[07:59] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: same thing :(
[08:00] <Phazeman> trappist: here ?
[08:00] <trappist> hey
[08:00] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Okay.. Have you formatted /dev/hda2 before?
[08:02] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: yes..the weird thing is that i formated it yesterday. and i managed to mount it right after...after a reboot, i'm getting this error
[08:02] <Psi-Jack> Sounds like it got corrupted, somehow.
[08:02] <Phazeman> trappist: hey there
[08:02] <Phazeman> trappist: troubles here...
[08:02] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: is there a way to recover it? without data loss?
[08:02] <trappist> Phazeman: what's up
[08:03] <Phazeman> trappist: after the upgrade to dapper (yes .. i know.. stupid idea...) there is no more X started for my user
[08:03] <Phazeman> trappist: any idea how to fix it ?
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: fsck.ext3 -n /dev/hda2
[08:03] <trappist> Phazeman: what video card?
[08:03] <Phazeman> trappist: NVIDIA
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: That is a read-only quick test.
[08:03] <trappist> Phazeman: did you rebuild your drivers?
[08:03] <Phazeman> trappist: NVIDIA drivers reinstalled OK
[08:04] <Phazeman> yes just reinstalled it
[08:04] <trappist> anything in the X log?
[08:04] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I need to install the nvidia drivers..
[08:04] <Psi-Jack> But I'm waiting till after all the base packages are up-to-date.
[08:04] <Phazeman> trappist: looks like the log is clean. going to see in it again just for the case
[08:04] <trappist> Phazeman: I upgraded to dapper too and I had to make symlinks to where the nvidia drivers got installed to
[08:04] <Psi-Jack> I'm curious though.
[08:04] <trappist> the libGL.so and libGLcore.so I think
[08:04] <Psi-Jack> Why in the fsck does modprobe.d/alsa-base have all those install lines?
[08:05] <Phazeman> trappist: look like you are right ! the glcore module is not loaded !!!
[08:06] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: because it needs to.
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> Needs? No, no, it doesn't NEED to. :)
[08:06] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: otherwise we hear "but [..]  doesn't work!" *whine*
[08:06] <Phazeman> trappist: dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: __glXLastContext  <- this is the error
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> crimsun: Heh. Why not make use of alsa-conf, or whatever that tool is, to configure sound specifically? ;)
[08:07] <trappist> Phazeman: try to find where the new libGLcore.so is and make a symlink
[08:07] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: because we don't ship alsaconf, it being a bug-ridden security errata-filled pos.
[08:07] <Phazeman> trappist: oki
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[08:08] <Psi-Jack> Well, I have two sound cards. How do I get emu10k1 loaded into slot-0, and via82xx loaded into slot-1?
[08:08] <trappist> crimsun: so how do you feel about alsaconf
[08:08] <crimsun> trappist: I love it.
[08:08] <Psi-Jack> lol
[08:08] <trappist> Phazeman: it took me hours to get X running again (with glx) after I upgraded
[08:08] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: echo "options snd-via82xx index=-2" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe/alsa-base
[08:09] <trappist> Phazeman: but that's because I forgot I had added composite to my xorg.conf
[08:09] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: modprobe.d^
[08:09] <Psi-Jack> crimsun: Hmmm.. Interesting. Basically shoving via82xx back.. That's one way to do it, I suppose. :)
[08:10] <Phazeman> trappist: ahhhh :(
[08:10] <Phazeman> trappist: i'll try to start it now
[08:10] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: finished running that...fixed the errors but...still can't mount
[08:10] <Phazeman> trappist: btw... how do you start the DM in kubuntu
[08:10] <Phazeman> ?
[08:10] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Dunno then, dude.
[08:10] <Phazeman> trappist: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start doesn't do it
[08:11] <trappist> Phazeman: I learned it's easier if you wipe out your X log between attempts so it's easier to find those 'ee' entries in it if it doesn't work out
[08:11] <Phazeman> trappist: cool
[08:11] <Psi-Jack> ext3, once it gets corrupted, it can easily become dust, unfortunately.
[08:11] <trappist> Phazeman: kdm restart - it's probably already running
[08:11] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: pitty....thanx anyway :)
[08:11] <Phazeman> trappist: nop.. doesn't do it...
[08:12] <ilba7r> hi running an .rm file with totem-xine the pc hangs and i get kernel panic message when i look at dmesg? any ideas?
[08:12] <trappist> Phazeman: if you have a valid .xinitrc try just startx - might have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common for permissions first
[08:12] <Psi-Jack> Ewww, totem? That gnome crap?
[08:13] <nat> is it possible to user `nice` with a process number ?
[08:13] <ilba7r> lol nice comment
[08:13] <nat> to change the priority of a task ?
[08:13] <Psi-Jack> Kaffeine, man, Kaffeine, with xine. :)
[08:13] <Phazeman> trappist: dang.. now this is VERY odd.. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-common is broken or not fully installed
[08:13] <trappist> nat: you mean renice a running app?
[08:13] <nat> yes
[08:13] <trappist> Phazeman: doh!
[08:13] <trappist> nat: yes
[08:13] <Phazeman> trappist: but sudo startx works just fine !!!
[08:14] <nat> with renice ok :)
[08:14] <nat> thks
[08:14] <Psi-Jack> Anyone here run servers? :)
[08:14] <Phazeman> trappist: any ideas ?
[08:14] <trappist> Phazeman: put allowed_users=anybody in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[08:14] <Phazeman> sec
[08:14] <Psi-Jack> Specifically, anyone here run OpenLDAP with LDAPv3 bind support? :)
[08:15] <trappist> Phazeman: what does /etc/init.d/kdm restart say?
[08:15] <Phazeman> trappist: doesn't say anything at all
[08:16] <Phazeman> trappist: just brings an empty line
[08:16] <trappist> lame
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> Man, I'm glad I'm not compiling KDE, this time, but it still feels like it takes forever just to download. LOL
[08:16] <trappist> what about stop then start?
[08:16] <Phazeman> Psi-Jack: i know what you are speaking about... doing it right now
[08:16] <Phazeman> trappist: dang it......
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> Phazeman: Heh
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> Then I gotta reboot, once I get the latest kernel updated in properly, instead of the i386 image.
[08:17] <Psi-Jack> Oh, speaking of the kernel. What are the "restricted modules?"
[08:17] <trappist> Psi-Jack: non-open-source modules, like nvidia drivers and such
[08:17] <Psi-Jack> Oh.. I see.
[08:18] <Psi-Jack> So, I probably already have the nvidia glx drivers, huh?
[08:18] <divansantana> hi!Im having that printing problem,as you click on printers, it says initialisin g print manager and hangs! Any ideas?I'v reinstalled all cups related packages with no luck
[08:18] <Phazeman> trappist: i think i will wait until the whole update thingy finish and restart the beast
[08:18] <trappist> Phazeman: stuff is still installing?!
[08:19] <Phazeman> doing an upgrade right now
[08:19] <Phazeman> KDE packages
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> That would be WHY kdm may not be working. :p
[08:19] <Phazeman> Psi-Jack: it didn't work yesterday and 2 days ago to
[08:19] <Phazeman> too*
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[08:19] <Phazeman> same reactions
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> And the punt is goood! Good recovery. :)
[08:20] <trappist> Phazeman: yeah, let that finish first :)
[08:20] <Phazeman> the surgery finished successefuly, the patient is dead
[08:20] <Phazeman> :)
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> heh
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, kde 3.5.1 now installing.
[08:20] <Phazeman> yah yah :)
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> Has the tmpfs bug been fixed? I noticed on shutdown, it wouldn't umount  tmpfs.
[08:21] <divansantana> hi!Im having that printing problem,as you click on printers, it says initialisin g print manager and hangs! Any ideas?I'v reinstalled all cups related packages with no luck
[08:24] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: i used tune2fs....it worked...i haven't lost anything :) thanx
[08:25] <bouncing> How do I get konq and kscd to stop hassling me with popup windows when I insert an audio CD or USB drive?
[08:25] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody heard about libvgahw?
[08:25] <bouncing> The "Do Nothing" thing is a dirty lie
[08:25] <tchize> hello, is there airport support for kubuntu on mac os x
[08:25] <tchize> s/os x :)
[08:25] <tchize> i meant mac g4 :)
[08:26] <bouncing> is airport different than normal wifi?
[08:26] <tchize> i mean driver support for hardware
[08:26] <tchize> airport card
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> hi tchzie
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> you heard about libvgahw?
[08:27] <tchize> dunno
[08:27] <divansantana> fixed the problem, lo interface was down...
[08:29] <bouncing> tchize: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11b.html#Airport
[08:30] <bouncing> tchize: If you're new to Linuxland/compiling drivers/whatnot, you might go out and buy a fully supported card.
[08:30] <knoppix> how large is kubuntu on the disk, usualy, after install
[08:30] <bouncing> Anyone? Tell konq and kscd to shut-up upon automount?
[08:31] <m_tadeu> how do i set write permissions for any user in an ext3 partition?
[08:32] <tchize> bouncing do you think it is *possible* to add hardware to a ibook?
[08:32] <tchize> a usb wifi card perhaps or a frewire one :)
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> knoppix: 1.5gb
[08:33] <bouncing> tchize: I thought iBooks had PC Card?
[08:33] <bouncing> tchize: If not, go with USB
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: chmod ugo+rw file
[08:33] <tchize> nope :)
[08:33] <bouncing> Or, try getting the airport working
[08:33] <tchize> that's the idea :)
[08:33] <tchize> anyway
[08:33] <tchize> this is not my ibook
[08:34] <tchize> am forwarding the link to my friend
[08:34] <tchize> :p
[08:34] <bouncing> airport's probably preferable because they would put the antenna in the monitor
[08:36] <Psi-Jack> Man, how fracking big is that linux-image? Heh
[08:36] <UFO> does enyone have the link for config kde and gnome at same time without seeing each others software
[08:37] <Vge> darn im good messing up installations
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> Geez. ~18mb for a linux-image?
[08:38] <trappist> Psi-Jack: it contains the kernel and all the modules
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> trappist: Well, most of the main modules. ;)
[08:39] <Psi-Jack> The ones that are actually natively part of linux.
[08:39] <trappist> well, yeah
[08:40] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: mmm....what about to all partition? is there a way to do that?
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Ummm. You want a regular user to have full read/write access to every file on the system?
[08:41] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: its not the system partition....its a shared partition
[08:41] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: So you mean, ALL the directories/files of the partition, not ALL partitions?
[08:42] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: nop...only one of my ext3 partitions....that one will contain shared data
[08:42] <Psi-Jack> chmod -R ugo+rw /path/to/mountpoint/*
[08:42] <Psi-Jack> -R makes it recursive.
[08:42] <jay0> hi all
[08:43] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: You should really man chmod someday.
[08:43] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: i'll give it a good look right now ;)
[08:43] <jay0> i need to install a program for school, and i have instructions on how to do it on debian.  Since kubuntu is based on debian, i assumed i can use teh same instructions.  am i correct?  the instructions are listed here: http://wiki.splitbrain.org/ns2
[08:44] <jay0> kde!
[08:44] <jay0> kde351!
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> Heh. I can't browse to the site you pointed out, jay0, at the moment.
[08:45] <trappist> it will probably work
[08:45] <jay0> no need to change commands or directories or anything?
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> Heh, my kde is updated, and I haven't restarted yet.
[08:46] <jay0> oh btw, where can i find instructions on how to update kde?
[08:46] <Psi-Jack> kubuntu.org
[08:47] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, just about time for me to reboot now.
[08:47] <_tijn> hi all
[08:47] <jay0> trappist: would you mind taking a quick look at the site to check the commands?  i'm a total n00b so i'll be entering the commands word for word.
[08:47] <Psi-Jack> BRB
[08:48] <_tijn> i cant get my battery status to work
[08:48] <trappist> jay0: enter the commands one at a time.  if one of them fails, take a closer look at it and see if you can figure out why.  if not, maybe ask google why, and ask here if you have to.
[08:49] <Vge> hmm, is it bad if installation fails to "Unable to install initrd-tools"? :)
[08:49] <_tijn> ive got apmd, de module is there, but i cant load it, it say, no such device
[08:49] <jay0> ok thanks
[08:49] <Drakeson> seems like something about xserver has been b0rked! the bold fonts are extremely bold now!
[08:49] <Drakeson> (dapper)
[08:52] <_tijn> ow wait, found it
[08:52] <Vge> hmm, what can i do when my "Install the base system" fails?
[08:53] <_tijn> linux-apic isnt supported (by bios)
[08:53] <_tijn> Vge: do you get any output other than that?
[08:54] <_tijn> if you switch consoles, during install, you can see the complete output
[08:54] <_tijn> i think it was under alt-F3
[08:54] <_tijn> not sure though
[08:56] <bimberi> Vge: could it it be a bad CD ...
[08:56] <bimberi> !verify
[08:56] <ubotu> I guess verify is to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[08:58] <Psi-Jack> Sweeet
[08:58] <Psi-Jack> Okay. What's the option in xorg.conf to stop the nvidia logo?
[08:59] <jay0> ok, i have another question
[08:59] <jay0> when a program is made to run under unix, and then i try to install it, i found out it'
[08:59] <jay0> s not going to work
[08:59] <jay0> but do i have to do anything to "uninstall" what it's one up until the errors?
[09:00] <Vge> wohoo, now i lost my /home drive, gg nr
[09:01] <Psi-Jack> What the heck?
[09:01] <Psi-Jack> The KDE Regional Keyboard Layouts list is empty now...
[09:03] <Vge> ubotu: after googleing it appeared broken partition tables, and i lost some data, grrr
[09:03] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Vge
[09:03] <Psi-Jack> Something in kde 3.5.1 removed all the keyboard layouts.. :/
[09:04] <Vge> Psi-Jack: i needed to reboot the KDE when i updated
[09:04] <Psi-Jack> Vge: I just rebooted my system, and came back up with KDE. :p
[09:04] <Vge> k
[09:05] <luka74> Psi-Jack: know issue - you can workaround by doing ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb
[09:05] <luka74> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2006-02-10 22:46 /usr/share/X11/xkb -> /etc/X11/xkb
[09:07] <Psi-Jack> Alright.
[09:08] <Psi-Jack> That's much better. Thanks luka74
[09:10] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I love it. KDE's got everything, including the kitchensync. :)
[09:11] <Blissex> Psi-Jack: thats not a bad pun. But don't tell the KDE developers, or they will really create an app with that name.
[09:12] <Psi-Jack> Ummm.
[09:12] <Psi-Jack> Should I say, they already do?
[09:13] <Blissex> Psi-Jack: I was afriad you would say that :-)
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[09:13] <kkathman> Psi-Jack:  good luck :)
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> kkathman: Hmm?
[09:13] <kkathman> glad you got things up and running :)
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> Well, just testing things out. ;)
[09:14] <Psi-Jack> I'm about to put kubuntu server on one of my other systems, and try to get LDAPv3 binding working correctly.
[09:15] <kkathman> Psi-Jack:  I have 3 boxes on my network...some using Breezy and others still using Hoary...they just rock along nicely
[09:15] <_tijn> i mostly have debian
[09:15] <Psi-Jack> Well, once getting past the initial bugs of Kubunty, it might actually be worth using. :)
[09:15] <_tijn> but i must say iam quite impressed
[09:15] <_tijn> yep
[09:15] <_tijn> if only my laptop batt had some visuals :/
[09:16] <kkathman> Psi-Jack:  if you do find bugs, please check at launchpad and be sure they have been reported
[09:16] <kkathman> some bugs are KDE based, others Kubuntu-based
[09:16] <Psi-Jack> There's secret kubuntu developers, in here, aren't there? :)
[09:16] <_tijn> hehe
[09:17] <trappist> tijn: I have an applet in my systray that shows how my battery's doing
[09:17] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, what exactly is kubuntu-desktop, and why does it keep removing akode?
[09:17] <_tijn> trappist: yes, but the applet is an frontend
[09:18] <trappist> yep
[09:18] <_tijn> it uses acpi
[09:18] <_tijn> or apm
[09:18] <_tijn> that doesnt work
[09:18] <trappist> ah.
[09:18] <trappist> it does for me, but definitely not for everybody.
[09:18] <_tijn> meh, my laptop is know not to have acpi support
[09:19] <Psi-Jack> Oh, a meta-package. heh
[09:20] <_tijn> hey, acpid seems to be running
[09:20] <Psi-Jack> Aha..
[09:20] <Psi-Jack> Found another flaw.
[09:21] <Psi-Jack> akode and libakode are the same thing, but one's for 3.4.x, and the other for 3.5.1
[09:22] <_tijn> q: does this should fix my batt prob? http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=568
[09:22] <Psi-Jack> Heh, my next feat, will be to install the ncessary multimedia packages. For DVD, win32codecs, and all.
[09:24] <as_284> hello
[09:24] <as_284> do you know how to import from KMAIL in Evolution?
[09:25] <Psi-Jack> Kmail uses standard Maildir or mbox mailboxes.
[09:25] <as_284> yes
[09:25] <Psi-Jack> Try #gnome for gnome-based crap.
[09:25] <as_284> ok
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> Ask not how to import from kmail, but whatever format your mailboxes are in.
[09:27] <as_284> Psi-jack: thanks
[09:28] <jason_> hi, i tried to input "sudo echo "/usr/local/lib" >> /etc/ld.so.conf" and i got a Permission denied error
[09:28] <jason_> can someone tell me how to resolve this?
[09:29] <_tijn> what does an asl file do? better Q what do i do with it :D
[09:30] <trappist> jason_: you can't really do redirects with sudo like that.  you have to use tee.
[09:30] <Psi-Jack> You ask it it's Age, Sex, and Location? :)
[09:30] <jason_> trappist: how do you use tee?
[09:30] <_tijn> hehe
[09:30] <trappist> jason_: or just sudoedit /etc/ld.so.conf and add it manually
[09:30] <_tijn> o wait found an howto
[09:30] <_tijn> afk
[09:30] <trappist> jason_: why, man tee, of course :)
[09:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi...
[09:31] <jason_> trappist: am i appending?
[09:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need format 1722 floppies...anyone can help me?
[09:31] <trappist> jason_: yes
[09:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> in ubuntu has no /dev/fd01722...:/
[09:32] <jason_> trappist: how do you get out of a "man"?
[09:32] <satempler> Aragorn_Guardian: use a 1GB usb stick lol
[09:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> ehehehehehe
[09:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice idea...hehehe
[09:32] <trappist> jason_: q
[09:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need the floppy...hehehe
[09:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> ok...how can i made the dev by mysqlf...
[09:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> :/
[09:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> makedev
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> jason_ ctrl c?
[09:33] <jason_> thanks all
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[09:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> :(
[09:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> no makedev????
[09:35] <jason_> ok, i tried "sudo tee -a "/usr/local/lib" /etc/ld.so.conf" and i got "tee: /usr/local/lib: Is a directory" what am i doing wrong?
[09:35] <satempler> Aragorn_Guardian: you basicly just neet to tell the mkfs utill to do it 1722 times
[09:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> ???
[09:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> and mknod????
[09:36] <satempler> Aragorn_Guardian: you don't need a dev file for that many floppys unless you have 1722 floppy drives
[09:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> noooo..
[09:36] <jason_> trappist?
[09:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[09:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> i said...capacity of it...
[09:37] <satempler> oh ok well thats easy enough
[09:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> floppies are 1440....you can format them in 1680, or 1722
[09:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[09:38] <satempler> oh ok don't wory there is a way to do it without the dev one sec
[09:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice... 8)
[09:38] <satempler> what format do you need fat ?
[09:39] <jason_> anyone: how do you edit "/etc/ld.so.conf"?
[09:39] <trappist> jason_: sudo vi /etc/ld.so.conf
[09:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes
[09:40] <t3nd0> whats the package called that enables dual display?
[09:40] <satempler> Aragorn_Guardian: mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0 shoud work fine
[09:41] <m_tadeu> how can i use the webcam?
[09:41] <satempler> Aragorn_Guardian: still looking to be shure
[09:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...thanks...
[09:42] <satempler> Aragorn_Guardian: well just try it and see
[09:43] <jason_> trappist:  all i get is a blank screen... (ie i dont' know how to use vi)... i know, i'm a hopeless n00b....
[09:43] <satempler> jason_: use nano
[09:44] <jason_> satempler: how do you use nano?
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[09:44] <satempler> jason_: nano sometextfile.conf
[09:44] <t3nd0> sudo nano -w
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> nano is like one of the easiest editors in the world.
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> nano fore2a
[09:45] <t3nd0> hrm my opengl isnt working
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> :DD
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> 4ewa:D
[09:45] <jason_> should my /etc/ld.so.conf be blank?
[09:45] <Psi-Jack> Why doesn't glxgears show the fps?
[09:46] <trappist> !glxgears
[09:46] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[09:46] <t3nd0> what program gives me the cool osx style app bar at the bottom?
[09:46] <satempler> Psi-Jack: look at the console
[09:46] <trappist> satempler: glxgears has changed.  it doesn't give you fps anymore by default.
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> t3nd0: it's intresting me
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> My gods. :)
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> That's a long command-line for what purpose did they bother? LOL
[09:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> satempler:  tomsrtbt has a script to make the devices...it uses mknod...
[09:46] <NRG88> hi, linux does not recognize my hp printer, and while booting, OK doesn't appear at the checklist for HP Linux Prining Service
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm saw a screenshot with it @ kde-look.org, but i don't know what is it..
[09:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> i am looking...
[09:47] <orion_fr_24> !kbfx
[09:47] <ubotu> orion_fr_24: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <Psi-Jack> Getting 2000+ FPS, though.
[09:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks by help... 8)
[09:47] <trappist> Psi-Jack: they probably got sick to death of people using glxgears as a benchmarking tool
[09:47] <Psi-Jack> trappist: That's not a good reason. They could always just state that in the loading. :p
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> what program gives me the cool osx style app bar at the bottom?
[09:47] <trappist> Psi-Jack: they can pretty much do whatever they want :)  I don't see a problem with it
[09:48] <satempler> shouldn't be nessicary
[09:48] <jason_> satempler: in nano, what does "M-A" to append mean?
[09:48] <Psi-Jack> Okay.. Hmm.
[09:48] <orion_fr_24> !automatix
[09:48] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:49] <Psi-Jack> win32codecs isn't in the universe or multiverse?
[09:49] <satempler> jason_: I am not shure
[09:49] <jason_> satempler: how do i append then?
[09:49] <satempler> Psi-Jack: get those from plf
[09:49] <trappist> Psi-Jack: it's w32codecs
[09:49] <t3nd0> how come superkarumbu isnt in the adept package manager?
[09:50] <trappist> t3nd0: because it's superkaramba?
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> satempler: I /really/ don't trust 3rd party packagers right now.
[09:50] <jason_> satempler: ohhhhh!!! it means "alt"!!
[09:50] <t3nd0> err thats what i meant
[09:50] <t3nd0> superkaramba isnt in the adept package manager
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, but still, nothing in official package repos for w32codecs
[09:50] <satempler> Psi-Jack: then you are stuck
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> !easysources
[09:50] <ubotu> Psi-Jack: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> !sources
[09:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> !easysource
[09:50] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:51] <satempler> Psi-Jack: they are in the plf repos
[09:51] <Psi-Jack> Right
[09:52] <trappist> Psi-Jack: just grab the tarball from mplayer.hu and extract it into /usr/lib/win32 if you like
[09:52] <satempler> ya true
[09:55] <LeeJunFan> Psi-Jack: better to put in /usr/local/lib/codecs
[09:58] <Psi-Jack> I think I know what I'll do.
[09:59] <Psi-Jack> Sometimes, use plf, or what-not, but keep them disabled in normal circumstances. :)
[10:00] <jason_> how do you uninstall something?  i accidentally installed something in my home directory...
[10:00] <jason_> can i just delete the folder?
[10:00] <_anilk> anyone can help me upgrade to dapper
[10:01] <_anilk> it says it wants to remove KDE packages
[10:02] <_anilk> Once we update sources.list, why not run "apt-get upgrade" instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[10:03] <Psi-Jack> dist-upgrade handles distribution upgrades.
[10:04] <_anilk> what difference does it make
[10:04] <jason_> anyone?  uninstalling help?
[10:04] <Psi-Jack> A /lot/
[10:04] <_anilk> since i updated sources.list to make system understant that its dapper, why not just use apt-get upgrade
[10:06] <_anilk> For me apt-get dist-upgrade is trying to remove most kde packages
[10:08] <_anilk> looks like i wont get answers :-(
[10:10] <trappist> _anilk: some packages have changed names, things move around, etc.  upgrade will just upgrade existing packages, and dist-upgrade will do the rest, like removing packages whose names have changed and replacing them, etc.
[10:10] <trappist> _anilk: you want to do upgrade THEN dist-upgrade.
[10:10] <Psi-Jack> _anilk: Likely, because you don't have the Dapper sources.
[10:10] <Psi-Jack> dist-upgrade handles distribution-specific package changes.
[10:10] <_anilk> this is what i did
[10:10] <_anilk> update sources.list to say dapper
[10:11] <Psi-Jack> Packages that were made for breezy, will be removed if there is no dapper package for it, for example.
[10:11] <_anilk> said dist-upgrade
[10:11] <Psi-Jack> Why doesn't ALSA's Master channel not work for the REAR surround channel? :)
[10:12] <_anilk> it wants to remove kdebase kdenetwork ...
[10:12] <Psi-Jack> _anilk: You do realize, Dapper is not "stable", correct?
[10:12] <_anilk> yes
[10:12] <_anilk> but atlease kde3.5.1 packages are available right ?
[10:13] <trappist> yep
[10:13] <antlarr> hi
[10:13] <_anilk> i am running breezy + kde351
[10:13] <trappist> _anilk: don't cry if you can't get X to start after you upgrade
[10:13] <Psi-Jack> trappist: What kernal version does dapper come with?
[10:14] <trappist> Psi-Jack: 2.6.15-15 is the current build
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Err. Have currently, sorry. ;)
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> 15? That could be why nvidia's kernel module wouldn't work.
[10:14] <antlarr> I have breezy running on a laptop and acpi is writing on /var/log/acpid.log a few lines each 20 seconds or less (not a constant frequency, but always less than 30 seconds)
[10:14] <^rob^> hello
[10:14] <antlarr> any idea on how to turn it off without turning acpi off ?
[10:14] <trappist> Psi-Jack: it works, it just has to be rebuilt - and then you have to put some extra work into it
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> linux .14 and up need pretty much the bleeding latest version of the kernel driver module.
[10:15] <^rob^> how do i get rid of "Last chance to quit..." message from cdrecord ?
[10:15] <_anilk> trappist: At current state will dist-upgrade(breezy + kde351) == dapper + kde351 ???
[10:15] <Psi-Jack> ^rob^: Change the source code to omit it out? :)
[10:15] <^rob^> no other option?
[10:16] <Psi-Jack> man cdrecord for alternatives. ;)
[10:16] <trappist> _anilk: I can't parse your question
[10:16] <jason_> trappist: when you do "make" does it "install" the app to the folder that the source is in?
[10:16] <_anilk> trappist: why should dist-upgrade try to remove kde packages on a kubuntu system ?
[10:16] <^rob^> Psi-Jack: ty - i did that - and have not seen anything about that in man page
[10:17] <trappist> jason_: erm, sort of.  not really.  it just builds the source.
[10:18] <jason_> trappist: so is there any harm in moving the folder to somewhere else?
[10:18] <trappist> _anilk: it shouldn't try to remove all of them, but quite a few have been replaced or split up into separate packages and things like that
[10:18] <jason_> trappist: can i go so far as to delete the folder?
[10:18] <_anilk> it is removing complete kde stuff
[10:18] <trappist> jason_: what are we talking about?
[10:18] <_anilk> trappist: it is removing complete kde stuff
[10:19] <jason_> trappist: i had a tar.gz that i untared and "make"d but i did that all in the wrong directory, i think...
[10:19] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[10:19] <Psi-Jack> Kubuntu has something for "options" for init.d scripts, correct?
[10:20] <trappist> _anilk: for each package it's removing, have a look in the packages being installed for a possible replacement
[10:20] <trappist> jason_: doesn't matter where you do that
[10:20] <jason_> trappist: ok thanks.  so where does it "install" to?
[10:21] <_anilk> trappist: it is remove things like kdebase kdenetwork kdemultimedia kicker ... Definitely something else is wrong
[10:22] <Psi-Jack> Trying to figure out how to get hdparm to enable DMA on all drives, not just HDD's, but DVD drives too.
[10:23] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, /etc/default is the init.d script options dir, eh?
[10:23] <trappist> _anilk: those are all metapackages
[10:23] <luka74> Psi-Jack: you need to add "dma=on" to /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:24] <_anilk> trappist: check this link - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89903.html
[10:24] <_anilk> trappist: it is exactly the same problem i am facing
[10:25] <troy> Psi-Jack: I put the following in my hdparm.conf: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/553289
[10:25] <trappist> _anilk: it's not a problem.  those are just metapackages and they don't matter.
[10:25] <troy> Psi-Jack: it'll also improve burning speeds substantially
[10:25] <marseillai> http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta1/ ------>> only for dapper!!! :( :(
[10:26] <trappist> _anilk: packages like that don't even contain files - their whole purpose is to depend on other packages so you can get a whole suite of stuff just by installing one package, like kubuntu-desktop.
[10:26] <trappist> _anilk: uninstalling those doesn't take the dependecies with it.
[10:26] <_anilk> trappist: thats good. But it also wants to remove adept akode akregator amarok amarok-arts amarok-engines amarok-gstreamer amarok-xine amor ark artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner ...
[10:27] <_anilk> trappist: is that OK ?
[10:27] <trappist> like I said, a lot of packages have been renamed, moved around, split up etc.  I did this, went through that, and I still have all my kde goodness.
[10:28] <_anilk> hmm
[10:28] <trappist> _anilk: but I'm not recommending you do it.  things will break.  dapper is not stable.
[10:28] <trappist> there's a good chance X won't even start.
[10:28] <_anilk> trappist: If kde runs with kate konsole konqueror thats good enough for me
[10:29] <trappist> _anilk: X has to run first :)
[10:29] <trappist> after you manage to boot, of course
[10:29] <_anilk> trappist: if it works for you, why not me :D
[10:29] <_martin> WHAT is up with Multiverse repo????? It has been down for several days now!
[10:29] <trappist> _anilk: I spent hours fixing things and submitting bug reports after I did it.  I did it because I'm confident I can fix whatever breaks.
[10:30] <trappist> _anilk: for example, there's a fatal typo in the starx script in the xinit package.  that took a while to track down.
[10:30] <trappist> *startx
[10:31] <_anilk> trappist: hmm, i could tried things like that if it was not my office laptop. This will be a thing to try for weekend
[10:31] <trappist> _anilk: good idea.  give yourself time to fix breakage on your own time :)
[10:31] <_anilk> trappist: When do you suggest me to move to dapper test :D ?
[10:32] <trappist> _anilk: when it's released in april
[10:32] <_anilk> trappist: not before that ?
[10:33] <trappist> _anilk: dapper is for people who can fix it when it breaks.  not for people who think they want the newest, shiniest packages, because it's not stable.
[10:34] <_anilk> trappist: thanks. will go and give a try on weekend.
[10:34] <trappist> cool
[10:34] <_anilk> trappist: can i know who you are ;-)
[10:34] <gilrim> anyone familiar witxawtv?
[10:35] <gilrim> anyone familiar with xawtv?
[10:36] <Knowerrors> Can someone help with this, new drive I just insalled, has a fstab entry, sudo mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/
[10:36] <Knowerrors> mount: /dev/hdb3 already mounted or /mnt/ busy
[10:37] <tripplethrendo> would anyone mind telling me the name of that app that gives you an osx style toolbar?
[10:37] <_anilk> trappist: thanks
[10:38] <troy> tripplethrendo: you want the file menus, etc. on the top?
[10:38] <arrinmurr> Knowerrors: err.. are you sure you want to mount it straight to /mnt? and anyway, if you have it in fstab, you should just say "sudo mount /mnt"
[10:38] <tripplethrendo> no i want the bigger logos that scroll when you move over them
[10:38] <tripplethrendo> on the bottom, like in osx
[10:38] <troy> tripplethrendo: try out superkaramba
[10:39] <tripplethrendo> oh yeah thats the one i couldnt remember the name thank you
[10:39] <tripplethrendo> is it difficult to install on kubuntu?
[10:39] <troy> tripplethrendo: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[10:40] <troy> personally, I hate that way of doing things
[10:40] <antlarr> noone knows about acpid ?
[10:40] <Knowerrors> arrinmurr: I tried just typing sudo mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt , same message
[10:40] <tripplethrendo> that seems easy enough
[10:40] <Knowerrors> my fstab enty - /dev/hdb3       /mnt/hdb3       reiserfs    defaults        0       0
[10:41] <troy> antlarr: seems like there should be something useful in /etc/acpi
[10:41] <troy> antlarr: but I don't actually know what you're looking for specifically ...
[10:41] <arrinmurr> Knowerrors: so the mountpoint is /mnt/hdb3, but you try to mount it to /mnt? what if you try "sudo mount /mnt/hdb3" ?
[10:42] <Knowerrors> same thing
[10:42] <Knowerrors> do I need to reboot for new fstab enties to be enabled?
[10:43] <tripplethrendo> i've got another question.... how do i setup permissions so that i can set backgrounds and such in display settings that are on OTHER DRIVES (ntfs), it says something about only being able to use stuff in home folder or local folder something like that
[10:43] <arrinmurr> Knowerrors: hmm.. not sure. are you sure it's not already mounted somewhere?
[10:44] <Knowerrors> I can't find it... tried cat /etc/mtab
[10:45] <arrinmurr> ok. well, i'm afraid i don't know what's wrong then
[10:46] <arrinmurr> Knowerrors: maybe you should just try rebooting then. that could be the easy way to fix it
[10:48] <Knowerrors> yeah, will try that now...
[10:48] <Knowerrors> brb :)
[10:49] <antlarr> troy: I want to stop acpid writing to the /var/log/acpid.log file a lot of lines each few seconds
[10:50] <antlarr> [Mon Feb 13 22:49:53 2006]  received event "battery C13B 00000081 00000001"
[10:50] <antlarr> [Mon Feb 13 22:49:53 2006]  notifying client 6885[110:110] 
[10:50] <antlarr> [Mon Feb 13 22:49:53 2006]  executing action "/etc/acpi/power.sh"
[10:50] <antlarr> etc
[10:56] <matt24> How do I install firefox in breezy 5.10
[10:56] <arafat> !rpcgen
[10:56] <ubotu> arafat: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:56] <tijn_> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:57] <tijn_> as root
[10:57] <tijn_> with sudo that is
[10:57] <tijn_> well iam off to bed, Cya all
[10:58] <matt24> I haven't setup a administrator account yet
[10:59] <visik7> it's useless
[10:59] <visik7> does anyone use remote desktop integrated in kde351 ?
[10:59] <matt24> under Adept it says that firefox is installed. but its not in the menu of internet prorgrams
[10:59] <visik7> I mean the server not the client
[10:59] <angasule> I can't get some unicode fonts to work :(
[10:59] <visik7> matt24: alt+f2 -> firefox
[10:59] <arafat> !joram
[10:59] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arafat
[11:00] <matt24> can't open
[11:02] <matt24> can someone tell me how to pull packages from the web instead of the dvd
[11:03] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.. This is annoying.
[11:03] <Psi-Jack> Everytime I close Kaffeine, I get a drkonq about it. :/
[11:03] <tanubis> matt24: you have apt running, right?
[11:04] <matt24> not sure
[11:04] <matt24> just installed
[11:04] <matt24> first time using
[11:04] <Psi-Jack> Anyone else, running kde 3.5.1, get that when closing kaffeine, drkonq coming up saying it crashed?
[11:04] <tanubis> matt24: did you install firefox already?
[11:05] <matt24> getting away from windows xp and the spyware and viruses
[11:05] <matt24> yup\
[11:05] <arrinmurr> Psi-Jack: what version of kaffeine?
[11:05] <matt24> but it was from the dvd
[11:05] <tanubis> matt24: ah... first time defenestrating?
[11:05] <tanubis> matt24: ok, well, the way to install stuff on kubuntu is generally going to be through apt
[11:05] <Psi-Jack> arrinmurr: 0.7
[11:06] <arrinmurr> Psi-Jack: there's 0.7.1 in the backports. the crashing problem is fixed in it.
[11:06] <tanubis> matt24: type alt-f2 to bring up a run dialogue, and then type konsole and enter
[11:06] <tanubis> that brings up your command shell
[11:06] <matt24> k
[11:06] <tanubis> if you want to install firefox from there, type sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:06] <tanubis> actually
[11:06] <Psi-Jack> arrinmurr: Backports? Okie dokie. :)
[11:06] <tanubis> first thing you want to do is type sudo apt-get update
[11:06] <matt24> need some help installing ATI drivers for a x800 pro video card to please if someone can.
[11:07] <tanubis> and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:07] <Psi-Jack> !easysource
[11:07] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:07] <matt24> I don't have an administrator account setup yet
[11:08] <tanubis> matt24: you don't get one on kubuntu unless you manually go through it, and it's not recommended
[11:08] <tanubis> matt24: just use sudo
[11:08] <matt24> I do
[11:08] <matt24> and it asks for a passwork
[11:08] <matt24> password
[11:08] <tanubis> that's the password you have for YOUR login
[11:09] <tanubis> it gives the default user admin powers with sudo by default
[11:09] <matt24> k
[11:09] <matt24> firefox is installed
[11:10] <matt24> now for ATI drivers
[11:11] <zblach> matt24,firefox 1.5?
[11:11] <tanubis> zblach: more than likely 1.0.7
[11:11] <zblach> tanubis, that's what i'm thinking
[11:11] <matt24> yup
[11:11] <Flexo> its godamn impossible to compile that irssi in that shitty kubuntu ;)
[11:11] <matt24> 1.0.7
[11:11] <zblach> spent a while trying to install 1.5. no success.
[11:12] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[11:12] <tanubis> zblach: what's in 1.5 that you really want?
[11:12] <Psi-Jack> There's an easy way to install Mozilla 1.5
[11:12] <Flexo> can anyone help me?
[11:12] <zblach> tanubis, had a bit of weirdness with 1.0.7
[11:12] <tanubis> ah
[11:12] <matt24> how do I install
[11:12] <zblach> i.e files would be saved with double extensions
[11:13] <tripplethrendo> what version of kde is used in the current kubuntu installation?
[11:13] <matt24> Can someone in here who has an ati card. help me installl the drivers and get it working
[11:13] <tanubis> matt24: not sure, but try enabling the universe/multiverse repositories in apt and then trying apt-cache search ait
[11:13] <zblach> matt24, sudo apt-get install fglrx-xorg-drivers
[11:13] <tanubis> *ati
[11:13] <Psi-Jack> tripplethrendo: 3.4.something?
[11:13] <zblach> Psi-Jack, 3.4.2, neh?
[11:14] <Psi-Jack> Yeah.
[11:14] <luka74> matt24: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:14] <zblach> tanubis, you running firefox?
[11:15] <tanubis> zblach: yes, but it's 1.0.7
[11:15] <zblach> k
[11:15] <tanubis> haven't seen any reason to upgrade to 1.5
[11:15] <zblach|away|> files would be saved as 'something.tar.gz.tar'
[11:15] <gilrim> what program is suggested for recording video of a pinncle card? I'm using  aquite old p3 here, and I been trying xawtv, but somehow I only get video and no audio - even tho the computer relays audio to the stereo at playback...
[11:15] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I betcha I know why 1.5 isn't in repos yet. ;)
[11:15] <zblach|away|> Psi-Jack, why?
[11:16] <matt24> need the install instructions for breezy 5.10 ATI drivers
[11:16] <Psi-Jack> Because when it's actually compiled, it shows as Deer Park, instead of Mozilla Firefox.
[11:16] <hollywoodb> gilrim: if you're using alsa make sure capture and input channels are unmuted & turned up
[11:16] <Flexo> my irssi refuses to ./configure completely, can anyone help meg.
[11:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's the embedded audio player of kde in konqueror?
[11:16] <Psi-Jack> But, Anyway.
[11:17] <arrinmurr> Tallia1Kubuntu: kaffeine ?
[11:17] <Psi-Jack> To install Mozilla Firefox 1.5, for now, you can just get the offical binaries from Mozilla's site, untar it to /opt/mozilla, or /usr/local/mozilla, and just edit your kmenus to load it directly.
[11:18] <gilrim> hollywoodb: record is the red 'led' below the slider in kmix?
[11:18] <gilrim> that's supposed to be lit?
[11:18] <Psi-Jack> To set it as a recording source, yes./
[11:19] <hollywoodb> Tallia1Kubuntu: noatun, you can set it in kcontrol, KDE Components -> File Associations
[11:19] <hollywoodb> gilrim: yes, should be lit under the input you're using and the capture channel, and both need to be turned up
[11:21] <matt24> what player can play mpg
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> Lots.
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> Kaffeine is one, though.
[11:24] <tripplethrendo> so i can only download 3.2-3.5 themes on kde-look.org  with the current release of kubuntu?
[11:25] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[11:25] <Psi-Jack> How do I get konq/kaffeine, whichever is doing it, to not copy the file from the dvd just to play it, when using media: or system:
[11:26] <tripplethrendo> I can't even open files that are on NTFS drives.  Like for desktop configure, I can't open .jpgs on hdb1 or sda1
[11:27] <tripplethrendo> Something wrong with permissions maybe?
[11:31] <hollywoodb> tripplethrendo: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[11:31] <gilrim> anyone had any luck with fuse btw?
[11:32] <Psi-Jack> Better yet.
[11:32] <gilrim> I've *almost* got i running, I tink, but it keeps complaining about missing libaries at run, that's already preesent :(
[11:32] <tripplethrendo> hollywooddb thanks i will try that :)
[11:33] <Psi-Jack> How do I make is so that system: and media: sources are treated as local, rather than as if it were over a network? (hence the copying factor I'm getting)
[11:34] <dsclee1> hi
[11:35] <matt24> how do I test 3d in kubuntu
[11:35] <MetaMorfoziS> glxgears
[11:35] <matt24> thanks
[11:35] <MetaMorfoziS> nm
[11:35] <MetaMorfoziS> if it's work slow, you have only software rendering
[11:35] <dsclee1> kubuntu is real cool
[11:35] <MetaMorfoziS> yes:)
[11:35] <visik7> glxgears of ubuntu doesn't report fps why ?
[11:35] <dsclee1> but im still having problems with wifi
[11:35] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know
[11:35] <MetaMorfoziS> but i'm interested, if anybody knows:D
[11:36] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: no it work slow also on hw render
[11:36] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ ok..
[11:36] <visik7> tested on nvidia driver enabled
[11:36] <visik7> (nvidia logo)
[11:36] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[11:36] <visik7> glxgears of ubuntu still slow and no fps
[11:36] <visik7> but tuxracers perform well
[11:36] <matt24> what another way to test 3d in kubuntu
[11:36] <visik7> apt-get install tuxracer
[11:36] <matt24> need to know if I installed the ati drivers right'
[11:36] <visik7> lsmod |grep fglrx
[11:37] <visik7> if the 3rd field isn't 0 u are using 3d accell
[11:37] <dsclee1> how do i do a search for all channels in konversation irc
[11:37] <bimberi> !glxgears
[11:37] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[11:37] <jerware> does kubuntu have workspaces ?
[11:37] <dsclee1> yeah theres 4 squares at the bottom
[11:37] <jerware> with ctr-alt arrow keys to navigate ?
[11:38] <matt24> how do I upgrade to firefox 1.5
[11:38] <dsclee1> ctrl tab works
[11:38] <visik7> jerware: ctrl+Fn
[11:38] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[11:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:39] <dsclee1> u know u can do a full channel search in mirc how do u do it in konversation?
[11:39] <tripplethrendo> Can anyone point me to something that will explain how to get DUAL DISPLAY working?  I have two identical 19" LCDs
[11:40] <matt24> 7200 fps
[11:40] <matt24> is that good
[11:41] <ccc_> dsclee1: /list ?
[11:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi
[11:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8608
[11:43] <tripplethrendo> so the current kubuntu release is also known as "breezy badger" is that correct?
[11:43] <ccc_> tripplethrendo: yes
[11:45] <dsclee1> lol wish i hadnt run that !lsit command
[11:46] <dcwckd> hey guys
[11:46] <dcwckd> can anyone tell me how to edit my kde kicker menu? I thought the GUI was kmenu, but it doesnt appear to be installed on my system
[11:48] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, is there any tool to tell me what audio/video codec a file is using?
[11:49] <ccc_> dcwckd: right click > menu editor
[11:50] <dcwckd> when I right click on something inside kmenu
[11:50] <dcwckd> it opens it
[11:50] <dcwckd> so weird
[11:51] <dcwckd> ccc_: can you help?
[11:51] <dcwckd> nvm
[11:51] <dcwckd> found it
[11:51] <ccc_> great :)
[11:54] <Donvinzk> Hie, how can I install extra language in my kubuntu ?
[11:57] <visik7> Donvinzk: for kde or for the system ?
[11:58] <Donvinzk> visik7: for the maximum of apps... but right now I have firefox in french openoffice... all the gnome app... and I would like to have it for kde
[11:58] <visik7> u need to create locale for other lang
[11:58] <visik7> dpkg-reconfigure locale
[11:58] <Donvinzk> initially I installed ubuntu as a server (problem of installation) and I am trying to have kde in french
[11:58] <visik7> and for kde apt-get install kde-i18n-<the_lang>
[11:59] <Donvinzk> visik7: do you mean localeconf ?
[12:00] <matt24> anyone in here use cedega 5.0
[12:00] <visik7> I mean locale
[12:00] <ragna> !ati
[12:00] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:00] <Donvinzk> apt-cache search locale brings nothing, visik7
[12:00] <visik7> locales
[12:00] <Donvinzk> well, no locale package
[12:00] <visik7> locales
[12:01] <Donvinzk> right, in the middle of the hundreds results, sorry