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[04:49] (perry_rhodan/#ubuntu) Julfish: It's 1280x1024. if You find the subsection for 1024X768 and overwrite the values it should work. But I can't guarantee it <g>
[04:49] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) NoStress: the end of the mp3 file seems to be, um, "chopped" or jerky?
[04:49] (siesel/#ubuntu) wildcard: I did some thousand lines of php code with xemacs. You just need to get used to is :)
[04:50] (Julfisk/#ubuntu) perry_rhodan: Should I just overwrite the value that's already there?
[04:50] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) wildcard: how did you do that special action "Wilcard will give it a try ..."?
[04:50] (perry_rhodan/#ubuntu) Julfish: No, copy the whole subsection and then replay 1024x768 with 1280x1024
[04:50] (wildcard/#ubuntu) bigfoot1, you type /me <something>
[04:50] (amphi/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: mplayer -ao sdl
[04:50] (Julfisk/#ubuntu) Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" = "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480" ?
[04:51] (NoStress/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: try with sdl output so edit ~/mplayer/config and replace ao=oss with ao=sdl
[04:51] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) amphi: just that?
[04:51] <bigfoot1> amphi: then after that, i do regulal mplay er command again, yes?
[04:51] <perry_rhodan> Farther below those modes are defined, that's what I mean with subsection
[04:51] <wildcard> lol
[04:52] <amphi> bigfoot1: I think an excursion into man mplayer might be in order ;)
[04:52] <perry_rhodan> Julfish: Sorry, I have to leave. Please ask the others
[04:52] <Julfisk> So everwhere that I find 1024x768 I shall replace it?
[04:52] <NoStress> bigfoot1: 2 way, you can specify -ao sdl each time you run mplayer, or put ao=sdl in mplayer config file
[04:52] <perry_rhodan> exit
[04:52] <bigfoot1> amphi: no. please don't lead me there. No. no. 8-)
[04:52] <amphi> bigfoot1: /server joke for the joke of the day
[04:52] <cappiz> is it possible to extend a sw raid5 device? :)
[04:52] <bigfoot1> amphi:  SERVER Unknown command
[04:52] <Profichilla> When starting wine, it just returns "Gettet"(=killed), the same for winecfg. What's wrong with my wine?
[04:53] <amphi> bigfoot1: oh, well
[04:53] <amphi> bigfoot1: yeah, man mplayer is a bit daunting
[04:53] <MisterN> hi
[04:53] <beniamino> is there an IRC channel for the -extras people?
[04:53] <amphi> bigfoot1: the docs in /usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc are a bit less intimidating
[04:53] <bigfoot1> amphi: no easy way to save my streaming real audio files?
[04:54] <amphi> bigfoot1: -dumpstream doesn't work with either rtsp:// or http:// ?
[04:55] <slept> can someone tell me why ubuntu ignores my hdparm settings (-k1 -K1) and after reboot I have to enable dma again ?
[04:55] <bigfoot1> amphi: no. can you please save a few files for me, before it disappears of the web, please?
[04:55] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[04:55] <bigfoot1> amphi: i could give you my email address
[04:55] <fr500> hello
[04:55] <amphi> bigfoot1: give me the urls again
[04:55] <fr500> is there an equivalent to hyperterminal for linux?
[04:55] <amphi> fr500: minicom perhaps
[04:55] <NoStress> fr500: minicom ?
[04:56] <NoStress> erf..
[04:56] <fr500> ok, gonna try
[04:56] <bigfoot1> amphi: ok. the basic webpage is at http://www.meettheferrells.com/ron-and/index.html. I'd like to get 2 files from that page: first, http://66.89.75.168:8080/ramgen/zoe/How_Deep_The_Father's_Love_For_Us.rm. Second, http://66.89.75.168:8080/ramgen/zoe/Wonderful,_Merciful_Savior.rm
[04:57] <stu> FREEEEE - is a magic number
[04:57] <NoStress> "minicom" vs "hyperterminal", which one has a marketing staff behind to find names ? :)
[04:57] <beniamino> slept: those parms are always volatile iirc, you need to put the hdparm in a startup script
[04:58] <Kindred> use hdparm.conf
[04:58] <GTX> lordpau, so I should install it on windows?
[04:58] <GTX> Then install ubuntu?
[04:59] <slept> beniamino,   Kindred : thats strange when I was using debian and even with hoary it worked without , what changed since then ?
[04:59] <lordpau> GTX..which one?
[04:59] <GTX> lordpau, vmware 5
[04:59] <amphi> bigfoot1: heh, mplayer dumped core
[04:59] <GTX> I should install it on windows first then install ubuntu?
[05:00] <GTX> or?
[05:00] <bigfoot1> amphi: whatdoes that mean?
[05:00] <Kindred> slept, no idea sorry, that's how it works now though
[05:00] <amphi> bigfoot1: segfaulted, crashed
[05:00] <beniamino> slept: every distro i've ever used, they were volatile
[05:00] <lordpau> i was talkin bout OS
[05:00] <bigfoot1> amphi: you having problems with mplayre too?
[05:00] <bigfoot1> NoStress: can you help me get some rm files to your computer, please?
[05:00] <amphi> bigfoot1: rdt chunk not recognized: got 0x98, rdt chunk not recognized: got 0x20, Core dumped ;)
[05:01] <amphi> bigfoot1: quoth mplayer
[05:01] <NoStress> bigfoot1: no the "core dumped" is a joke
[05:01] <bigfoot1> quoted?
[05:01] <beniamino> can i change architectures with 'apt-get distupgrade'. anyone know?
[05:01] <amphi> bigfoot1: it's what mplayer said
[05:01] <Ng> beniamino: no
[05:01] <amphi> er, NoStress
[05:01] <bigfoot1> NoStress: oh, it's a joke? i don't get it.
[05:01] <NoStress> bigfoot1: geek joke
[05:01] <bigfoot1> amphi: so, we don't have success?
[05:02] <bigfoot1> NoStress: can you help me get some rm files to your computer, please?
[05:02] <hype1> hi
[05:02] <trappist> bigfoot1: usually if an app "core dumps" you should have a new file named core.pid, where pid is the app's pid, unless your limits.conf prevents core dumps
[05:02] <bigfoot1> trappist: oh, yes. i see those in my home directory time to time.
[05:02] <bigfoot1> i just throw them to the bin
[05:02] <bigfoot1> bin, as in trash can.
[05:02] <Donvinzk> hi, if I install a release candidate of dapper drake, will I be able to switch to the stable version, or will I have to reinstall it ?
[05:02] <bigfoot1> not /bin folder
[05:02] <amphi> NoStress: but you're right, gdb shows it exits normally
[05:03] <s25> i am trying to install a vserver and it says i need libbeecrytp6 but ubuntu has discontied it ,it seems what should i do?
[05:03] <hype1> i wanna start ubuntu with a live cd, i used the commands pci=noapci and noapci to boot, but i only get a brown screen, after booting everything.....
[05:03] <NoStress> amphi: yes... i was surprise the first time it "core dumped ;"
[05:03] <Ng> Donvinzk: you'd be able to upgrade it to the latest packages and it'd be the same as release. probably. bear in mind that it's unstable until release and so nothing is guaranteed
[05:03] <hype1> who can help me!?
[05:03] <amphi> NoStress: heh
[05:03] <s25> im gonna add the universal library now mayvbe that will work
[05:03] <Donvinzk> Ng, ok, thanks. I will wait then.
[05:03] <beniamino> anyone know what the total size of archive.ubuntu.com is?
[05:04] <hype1> i wanna start ubuntu with a live cd, i used the commands pci=noapci and noapci to boot, but i only get a brown screen, after booting everything.....
[05:04] <lordpau> GTX.. oh tahts for servers
[05:04] <POLISH> polish
[05:05] <POLISH> to nie pol
[05:05] <amphi> !pl
[05:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[05:05] <hype1> who can help me!?
[05:05] <lordpau> GTX..im running a standalone unit
[05:05] <reon> Anyone here had any luck getting Intel Pro 1000 on new PC's to work with 5.10 ???
[05:05] <POLISH> amphi mwisz po polsku?
[05:05] <amphi> POLISH: no
[05:05] <POLISH> szkoda
[05:06] <amphi> reon: the e1000 module works well here (on debian)
[05:06] <reon> amphi, this is not for me but lots of people complaining the card does not even get recognised under ubuntu
[05:07] <amphi> reon: modpobe e1000 should work; if it does, echo e1000 >> /etc/modules will have the module load at boot time
[05:07] <POLISH> HWDP
[05:08] <POLISH> HUJ W DUPE POLICJI
[05:08] <reon> amphi, thx
[05:08] <POLISH> NIE MWIE WAS
[05:08] <POLISH> I LIKE UBUNTU
[05:08] <POLISH> 5.04
[05:09] <POLISH> i not like ubunt9/8ucg
[05:09] <POLISH> artowaem
[05:09] <POLISH> joke
[05:09] <elbazz> salut
[05:09] <tristan> Is there someone familiar with VNC?
[05:10] <bob832> if i added the following to /etc/sudoers:  robert ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter, would that only give root permission everything or just firestarter?
[05:11] <trappist> bob832: I think it's robert ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter
[05:12] <trappist> that is, that would give you sudo access to everything, but nopasswd sudo access to firestarter
[05:12] <slept> beniamino, Kindred , thanks
[05:13] <birlik> how can we confgure tr   turksh character
[05:13] <bob832> what if i just wanted to give sudo access to firestarter?  just take out the ALL=(ALL) ?
[05:13] <Kindred> slept,  no problem..
[05:14] <trappist> bob832: I think so, yeah.  man sudoers will know for sure
[05:14] <tristan> IS there anyone who can help me with VNC?
[05:15] <trappist> tristan: not until you ask a question
[05:15] <cyphase> is it possible to have an account with no password?
[05:16] <trappist> cyphase: yes, but don't do it
[05:16] <SR_Bronze> cyphase: , As a Linux user account? yes.
[05:16] <ttyS0> hello, is it possible to override loading of hotplug?:)
[05:17] <cyphase> how?
[05:17] <amphi> birlik: dpkg-reconfigure console-data perhaps, for console
[05:17] <bob832> alright, thanks trappist, i'll check out the man sudoers
[05:17] <tristan> OK. I have VNC set up on my desktop running under windows and I want to connect to it with my laptop running under linux. When I type xvncviewer name_of_the_computer or xvncviewer myIPadress, I cannot connect.It says Connection timed out
[05:17] <amphi> ttyS0: you can 'blacklist' modules, so hotplug won't load them
[05:17] <trappist> cyphase: I won't be a party to helping you do something like that.
[05:18] <ttyS0> amphi,  the problem is that I can't simply start ubuntu, because after loading hotplug it crashes :)
[05:18] <trappist> tristan: try vncviewer ipaddress:0 and make sure windows isn't firewalling port 5901
[05:18] <slavik-lt> when totem plays a DVD it plays it too fast (faster than realtime)
[05:18] <cyphase> trappist, i'm not going to make all my accounts with no password. just one :P
[05:18] <trappist> cyphase: it's a terrible idea
[05:18] <slavik-lt> ttyS0: does it crash or "stop"
[05:18] <birlik> how can we open a program as root in ubuntu
[05:18] <birlik> ?
[05:18] <gnomefreak> cyphase: its unsafe and not recommened so for someone to help you do that would be bad advice i suggest trying man sudoers
[05:18] <NoStress> sudo program
[05:18] <cyphase> and not for long, considering i don't want people to ssh into my computer
[05:18] <bomin> cyphase: whats the point, what are you actually trying to accomplish
[05:18] <slavik-lt> or gksudo
[05:18] <slavik-lt> when totem plays a DVD it plays it too fast (faster than realtime)
[05:18] <cyphase> nothing at all
[05:19] <ttyS0> slavik-lt,  system crashes :)
[05:19] <slavik-lt> mplayer plays only one part of the dvd and stops
[05:19] <cyphase> i just wanted to try it, seeing as it isn't allowd by passwd
[05:19] <slavik-lt> ttyS0: oh ...
[05:19] <tristan> trappist : thanks I forgot to open the right to connect from VNC...
[05:19] <ttyS0> slavik-lt,  i can't even get ccess to console :)
[05:19] <ttyS0> *access
[05:20] <slavik-lt> ttyS0: mine would "stop" because it was trying to load the hda-intel module
[05:20] <trappist> cyphase: so you're saying if I answer your academic question, you won't actually run around with a passwordless user on your system?
[05:20] <slavik-lt> I have no intel chips here :)
[05:20] <cyphase> trappist, i'll create one, but it won't exist for long
[05:20] <cyphase> i'm not an idiot :)
[05:20] <ingo_> hihi
[05:20] <slavik-lt> trappist: passwordless user? is that like a naked man?
[05:20] <trappist> cyphase: if you promise to destroy the account immediately: sudo passwd username
[05:21] <slavik-lt> cyphase: that still has to be proven :P
[05:21] <ttyS0> slavik-lt,  at home it works okay, but at work.....
[05:21] <fromvega> Which is the right way to pronounce "Ubuntu"? Which is the strong silable? Should I say "uBUNtu" or "ubunTU" ?
[05:21] <trappist> slavik-lt: like a naked man in the middle of the battle of troy
[05:21] <trappist> fromvega: the first one
[05:21] <slavik-lt> trappist: stop, I'm blushing :P
[05:21] <fromvega> trappist: thanks
[05:21] <slavik-lt> ttyS0: teh sux, have you tried recovery console?
[05:22] <NoStress> fromvega: one or the other, the person will look at you stange
[05:22] <ttyS0> slavik-lt,  same thing with recovery console, same thing with live-cd
[05:22] <slavik-lt> ttyS0: any error messages?
[05:22] <fromvega> NoStress: hehehe
[05:22] <birlik> slavik-lt: gksudo wants password, i forget password. i think there is a command like sudo -s how can i use this?
[05:22] <ttyS0> slavik-lt,  am, yeah, but it says something strange and dies :)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> birlik: sudo -i :)
[05:23] <gnomefreak> birlik: wait a min
[05:23] <slavik-lt> birlik: the password is your main user's password the one you created in set up
[05:23] <gnomefreak> birlik: you forgot the user password?
[05:23] <fromvega> I have another question, I have installed Ubuntu 5.10, but I think it do not have with Server tools installed, like Apache, MySQL, PHP. Am I right? If so, is there a package to install everything needed for a webserver?
[05:23] <bomin> cyphase: setting the password blank is easy, there's lots of available information on the net.  Just look up "linux password recovery"
[05:23] <slavik-lt> birlik: gksudo is like sudo but for gui things
[05:23] <lumy_> ola a todos
[05:23] <slavik-lt> fromvega: they are installed
[05:24] <slavik-lt> !es
[05:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:24] <fromvega> lumy_: so ingles aqui mano (only english here dude)
[05:24] <lumy_> sorry
[05:24] <bigfoot1> how can i play one real audio file after another using RealPlayer? I've already loaded up my "Favorites" but they stop after each file.
[05:24] <lumy_> I'm new here
[05:24] <wastrel> so what is wrong with firefox on breezy that's making it so slow?
[05:24] <slavik-lt> fromvega: is mano = hand?
[05:24] <trappist> aadil: please don't do that
[05:25] <janno> Why the firefox crash all the fucking time :@
[05:25] <amphi> !tell wastrel about fasterfirefox
[05:25] <fromvega> slavik-lt: no, it's something like "bro"
[05:25] <trappist> bigfoot1: for i in *.rm; do realplay "$i";done
[05:25] <slavik-lt> what's hand then?
[05:25] <fromvega> slavik-lt: mo = hand
[05:25] <NoStress> janno: try remove flash
[05:25] <aadil> trappist, i will just go for dinner - u can have a picture of me while am away
[05:25] <slavik-lt> in spanish?
[05:25] <fromvega> slavik-lt: Portuguese
[05:25] <bigfoot1> trappist: please speak english.
[05:25] <slavik-lt> oh, figures
[05:25] <trappist> aadil: I mean please don't use public away messages
[05:25] <janno> ehh how? :P
[05:25] <bigfoot1> trappist: i'm not a geek yet
[05:25] <slavik-lt> mano is spanish for hand :P
[05:25] <aadil> oops
[05:26] <aadil> ok trappist
[05:26] <slavik-lt> anywho ...totemplays DVDs too fast ... how can I slow it down?
[05:26] <fromvega> slavik-lt: yes, I know, Spanish is a kind like Portuguese
[05:26] <slavik-lt> and mplayer plays only  piece of dvd (doesn't even open the menu) and then stops
[05:27] <slavik-lt> please help?
[05:27] <slavik-lt> yo tengo un pene muy grade. :)
[05:27] <NoStress> slavik-lt: run emacs while playing dvd with totem, it should slow down :)
[05:27] <fromvega> slavik-lt: so, how do I access MySQL or PHP? I typed PHP at terminal and nothing...
[05:27] <slavik-lt> NoStress: rofl.
[05:27] <slavik-lt> fromvega: did you try "which php" ?
[05:28] <NoStress> slavik-lt: there is no option in totem to choose framerate ?
[05:28] <fromvega> slavik-lt: it returns nothing
[05:28] <slavik-lt> hmm, I was wrong, t isn't installed by default
[05:28] <Kindred> !lamp
[05:28] <ubotu> from memory, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:28] <slavik-lt> NoStress: no idea
[05:29] <fromvega> Kindred: thanks
[05:29] <Kindred> no worries.
[05:30] <slavik-lt> I know what the problem is ... my clock is too fast ...
[05:30] <slavik-lt> faster than realtime
[05:31] <dereks> when is beagle going to make it back into dapper?
[05:31] <slavik-lt> ok, my time is too fast
[05:32] <slavik-lt> how do I correct this?
[05:32] <NoStress> imho, a deamon in mono is a bad idea
[05:32] <dereks> NoStress: why
[05:32] <slavik-lt> my clock is going too fast ... how do I fix it?
[05:32] <slavik-lt> !clock
[05:32] <ubotu> slavik-lt: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:32] <wastrel> slavik-lt, are you using ntp?
[05:33] <slavik-lt> umm, how do I check?
[05:34] <slavik-lt> !ntp
[05:34] <ubotu> ntp is, like, Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.
[05:34] <cyanid3> How do I restart inetd in ubuntu breezy
[05:35] <w32> is there are grub.conf like lilo.conf -if there is where is it ?
[05:35] <NoStress> dereks: it was just a troll tentative... .net vm is slow... etc..
[05:35] <wastrel> cyanid3, prolly  sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[05:35] <slavik-lt> my clock is going too fast ... how do I fix it?
[05:35] <cyanid3> that was my first guess, but inetd isn't there
[05:35] <w32> I don't have lilo installed
[05:35] <wastrel> slavik-lt, ntp will sync your system clock with network time servers.
[05:36] <wastrel> w32, /boot/grub/ should be where your grub config files are
[05:36] <slavik-lt> wastrel: but it keeps going fast ...
[05:36] <cyanid3> i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure initd as well, with no luck
[05:36] <fromvega> I have installed gdesklets but I can not put them where I want, when I double-click the feature it adds to my desktop and I can not move them. Could you help-me?
[05:36] <steve60> can anyone help me i am trying to get a microtek slimscan c3 scanner to work Xsane supports it but can not find it it's not USB either
[05:36] <dereks> NoStress: yeah, but the stuff that needs to be fast is done in C
[05:36] <cyanid3> I just downloaded swat for samba,, and I want to start it
[05:36] <slavik-lt> it runs twice as fast
[05:36] <Ng> cyanid3: inetd isn't installed by default. you need the netkit-inetd package, or xinetd (which is different, but possibly more useful)
[05:37] <wastrel> slavik-lt, heh that's a hardware issue with your system clock i'd guess... i have no idea what to do about it.  are you overclocking it?
[05:37] <trappist> slavik-lt: that sounds like a kernel clock issue.  if it was me, I'd ask on #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net
[05:37] <wastrel> cyanid3, are you sure it's installed correctly?
[05:37] <w32> I found it...what there is similar to the lilo.conf
[05:37] <wastrel> w32, menu.cfg i think
[05:37] <w32> Ahhh
[05:37] <w32> thanks
[05:37] <wastrel> menu.lst
[05:37] <cyanid3> well, I have the inetd.conf file
[05:37] <trappist> wastrel: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:38] <w32> just compilied my on kernel gonna test it W00t!!!
[05:38] <trappist> err
[05:38] <cyanid3> I just want to apply the changes that i made to that
[05:38] <steve60> anyone know how to update Xsane
[05:38] <wastrel> w32, don't forget to back up your existing menu.lst before modifying :] 
[05:38] <GdCondor> hi
[05:38] <w32> yes
[05:38] <GdCondor> is it planned to support pocket pc through synce in dapper ?
[05:38] <wastrel> cyanid3, but there's no inetd script in /etc/init.d ?
[05:39] <cyanid3> no
[05:40] <wastrel> how about /usr/sbin/inetd
[05:40] <ruspu> amule or xmule? Which one is better.
[05:40] <steve60> can anyone help me i am trying to get a microtek slimscan c3 scanner to work Xsane supports it but can not find it it's not USB either
[05:40] <wastrel> i don't even know why i have inetd running on this system - is it on by default?
[05:40] <cyanid3> that's a negative
[05:40] <wastrel> cyanid3, you don't have it installed.  the config file is left over
[05:40] <cyanid3> apparently not, for me at least
[05:40] <wastrel> cyanid3, apt-cache policy inetd
[05:41] <smartbart> hi there
[05:41] <paolob> Hi guys! I changed the network IPs (in /etc/network/interfaces and in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and in /etc/hosts), and now the clients boot but doesn't permit login in gnome. Any hint?
[05:41] <wastrel> cyanid3, actually xinetd seems to be the default
[05:41] <wastrel> cyanid3, apt-cache policy xinetd
[05:41] <smartbart> i have a problem installing ubuntu ... when trying to configure the time-zone the installation hangs up ..
[05:41] <steve60> can anyone tell me is there a xsane.deb file out there cause i cant find it anywhere
[05:42] <smartbart> ithas anyone got a idea on that
[05:42] <smartbart> ?
[05:42] <cyanid3> alright
[05:42] <Al-Daja> is anyway to select all libraries from synaptic pack manager without be one by one?
[05:42] <Ng> Al-Daja: all libraries?
[05:42] <wastrel> smartbart, sudo apt-get install xsane
[05:43] <smartbart> in the rescue shell ?
[05:43] <Al-Daja> Ng, lol is an example, but select the ones that i want
[05:43] <smartbart> im talking about the installation process
[05:43] <smartbart> ?
[05:43] <Ng> Al-Daja: you can hold ctrl and select individual packages, or hold shift to select a range
[05:43] <Blaatje> Hi, I Have A Problem While Installing: He Says; An Error Was Returned While Trying To Install The Kernel Into The Target System. Kernel Package: 'linux-386'. Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log For The Details.. Can Somone Help Me?
[05:43] <Ng> Al-Daja: that what you mean?
[05:43] <wastrel> smartbart, that command will install xsane
[05:43] <Blaatje> Hi, i have a problem while installing: He says; An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system. Kernel package: 'linux-386'. Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.. Can somone help me?
[05:43] <Blaatje> sorry for talker
[05:43] <smartbart> what is xsane and what is it good for ?
[05:44] <trappist> smartbart: apt-cache show xsane
[05:44] <wastrel> smartbart, lol sry i'm replyign to the wrong person
[05:44] <Al-Daja> ng and then a simple enter?
[05:44] <wastrel> steve60 was asking about it
[05:44] <aridese> hi guys, what does the "ttable" struct in ALSA mean?
[05:44] <smartbart> yes i thought so
[05:44] <Ng> Al-Daja: then right click and choose mark for install
[05:44] <smartbart> do you have a suggestion what i could do
[05:44] <Nivko> can somone help me?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> xubuntu-desktop is same as ubuntu-desktop right as in safe to remove and keep everything good?
[05:44] <smartbart> the installation hangs whenn i try to configure the time zone .
[05:44] <Al-Daja> Ng, thx
[05:45] <wastrel> smartbart, not sure about that... how about just hitting the default for that and moving on & fixing it postinstall
[05:45] <holobyted> I'm having some problems installing the official nVidia drivers... seems the driver isn't being loaded. anyone able to help?
[05:45] <smartbart> i cannot avoid that point of the installation
[05:46] <beniamino_> is  there an 'official home' for *-extras? a mailing list? an irc channel?
[05:46] <Nivko> Hi, i have a problem while installing: He says; An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system. Kernel package: 'linux-386'. Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.. Can somone help me?
[05:46] <smartbart> when i try the next step it jumps back
[05:46] <smartbart> an hangs again
[05:46] <smartbart> and whenn i try to handle it postinstall the system is completely crap
[05:46] <mark_> is there any way for me to activate my second hard drive, it has a windows NTFS filesystem
[05:46] <decaf123> smartbart, bad install disk?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> Nivko: make sure the md5 matches and the iso is burnt at the slowest speed
[05:46] <jan_> hi
[05:46] <Nivko> gnomefreak: I have the orginal cd..
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mark_ about ntfs
[05:47] <thaytan> anyone here know of problems loading firmware with ipw2200 on breezy?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> Nivko: try a different one
[05:47] <smartbart> is that possible ?
[05:47] <smartbart> that the disk is the reason
[05:47] <Nivko> ok
[05:47] <thaytan> I'm sick of chasing closed bug reports on launchpad that tell me it shouldn't be happening
[05:47] <NoStress> beniamino_: what is extra , something else than multi, universe or restricted  ?
[05:47] <smartbart> i wasnt able to install the base system from the disk too
[05:47] <jan_> can someone tell me pls how to install a new gdm theme? i can drag a normal theme to the theme-manager but that doesnt work for gdm. thx for ur help
[05:47] <gnomefreak> jan_: on breezy or dapper?
[05:47] <smartbart> but i did unmount it via the shell and installed the system via internet
[05:47] <smartbart> that worked
[05:47] <smartbart> well
[05:48] <jan_> gnomefreak: breezy
[05:48] <gnomefreak> jan_: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[05:48] <smartbart> till the timezone thing
[05:48] <decaf123> smartbart, did you check md5 when u burnt iso?
[05:48] <kameron> should e2fsck -fy take a considerable amount of time to run, on a 200gb drive?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> jan_: it will do it for you for most part :)
[05:48] <smartbart> no
[05:48] <thaytan> kameron: I'd expect it to
[05:48] <jan_> and how is the app then called where i can chaange the theme?
[05:49] <kameron> alright, bbl thaytan
[05:49] <smartbart> but is it possible that the installer works that far
[05:49] <holobyted> if it helps, I followed the guide on ubuntuforums to install the drivers
[05:49] <smartbart> when the cd is broken ?
[05:49] <smartbart> for a ibm z60m notebook, what kernel should i select ?
[05:49] <smartbart> linux-686 ?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> jan_: when you open gnome-art after installing it you choose what kind of theme you want it will load them choose from them and install them
[05:50] <smartbart> or linux-image-2.6 ... somewhat
[05:50] <amphi> smartbart: 686 should be ok - what processor is it, pentium m?
[05:50] <smartbart> yes
[05:50] <Ng> smartbart: yeah linux-686 should be fine
[05:50] <jan_> i c. thx for your help gnomefreak
[05:50] <smartbart> but .. that shouldnt affect the time-zone problem ?
[05:50] <smartbart> or does it ?
[05:51] <smartbart> is there any possibility to finish the installation after the base-system installation with the shell
[05:51] <smartbart> ?
[05:51] <smartbart> to work around that hang up
[05:52] <gnomefreak> jan_: yw
[05:52] <smartbart> btw. sorry for that freaky bad english
[05:52] <smartbart> :-(
[05:52] <mark_> how do I install glib, I can't find anything on google etc
[05:52] <mark_> :\
[05:52] <mark_> I'm really stick
[05:53] <smartbart> any fresh ideas
[05:53] <gnomefreak> mark_: apt-cache search glib   find the one you want than sudo apt-get install glib....
[05:53] <blueblood> Hello, I got a big trouble, my disk has gone down and I want to save it whit a ubuntu live CD, but I want to mount my NTFS partitions, but how can I see what there name is? So I can mount them
[05:53] <SR_Bronze> fdisk /dev/hda
[05:53] <gnomefreak> mark_: or use synaptic to find glib
[05:53] <SR_Bronze> then use the "p" command
[05:54] <wastrel> smartbart, i'm reading the forums, one guy with this problem seems to have reinstalled from the beginning & it worked the 2nd time...
[05:54] <SR_Bronze> blueblood:  then exit out of fdisk
[05:54] <blueblood> ah, thanks SR_Bronze
[05:54] <blueblood> see them now
[05:54] <smartbart> well... im at the moment installing it for the 5th time
[05:54] <fromvega> What is the mysql-client package}
[05:54] <fromvega> ?
[05:54] <amphi> smartbart: dunno - you can with debian
[05:54] <beniamino_> NoStress: it was where a whole load of restricted stuff lived for hoary.  much of that stuff seems to be in breezy-multiverse.  i think it was an ubuntu-backports project
[05:55] <amphi> fromvega: apt-cache search mysql client
[05:55] <NoStress> beniamino_: ok, thanks
[05:55] <smartbart> so ... now im at the point to select time zone thing
[05:55] <instabin> how do i seutp vnc server
[05:55] <instabin> !vnc
[05:55] <ubotu> well, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[05:55] <fromvega> amphi: I just want to know, what is it? is it a client for mysql?
[05:56] <NoStress> fromvega: yes
[05:56] <cavediver> Hi guys. I'm having resoulution-problems in xorg after upgrading my graphic-card and monitor. Switched from nvidia 5200 to 6200.
[05:56] <Seveas> !fixres
[05:56] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:56] <smartbart> well , i have to leave
[05:56] <SR_Bronze> blueblood: NP :)
[05:58] <gnomefreak> this is gonna work on my nerves :(
[05:58] <holobyted> anyone here ever had problems installing NVidia official drivers?
[05:58] <yiannis> where is ubuntu's power managment my laptop switches off if i leave it
[06:00] <instabin> does any one have vnc server seutp
[06:00] <Effi> instabin, what do you mean with seutp?
[06:01] <trappist> probably setup
[06:01] <takedown> !hotplug
[06:01] <instabin> yes
[06:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, takedown
[06:01] <instabin> setup
[06:01] <instabin> having problem setting mine up
[06:01] <Effi> instabin, do you use tightvnc?
[06:01] <instabin> vnc4
[06:01] <instabin> should i use tight vnc
[06:01] <gnomefreak> build-dep doesnt really change for breezy to dapper for the same version app right?
[06:02] <trappist> gnomefreak: sometimes
[06:03] <instabin> Effi, just installed tightvncserver
[06:03] <gnomefreak> that cant be good :(
[06:03] <trappist> gnomefreak: for example sometimes a build-dep gets missed and is added for dapper
[06:03] <instabin> Effi, what do i do to configure it
[06:03] <wildcard> gnomefreak, have u tried FreeNX?
[06:03] <gnomefreak> trappist: im assuming its build-dep doesnt have a lib or 2 i may need but we will find out in a bit i guess
[06:04] <gnomefreak> wildcard: no i dont know what that is
[06:04] <wildcard> ubotu tell gnomefreak about FreeNX
[06:05] <gnomefreak> wildcard: how is that gonna help me compile this program?
[06:05] <mark_> http://mindtzar.pastebin.com/552826
[06:05] <wildcard> err no i was just wondering if you had used an alternative to tightvnc
[06:05] <mark_> even though glib says it's installed
[06:05] <mark_> I get that error
[06:05] <instabin> !ports
[06:05] <ubotu> instabin: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:06] <mark_> can someone tell me what I need to do to make it work
[06:06] <gnomefreak> wildcard: i never used vnc either
[06:06] <thinklinux> use ssh u can do anything you want from command line
[06:06] <gnomefreak> mark_: what is the error?
[06:06] <mark_> http://mindtzar.pastebin.com/552826
[06:06] <aarkerio> Hi! how can I configure my sound card?
[06:06] <mark_> ^ error is there
[06:06] <tiredbones> has anyone installed Zope 3.2 on Breezy? If so what kind of problem did you erxpience?
[06:06] <amphi> mark_: install the glib dev package
[06:07] <blueblood> SR_Bronze, I can't find the one I'm looking for :/
[06:07] <holobyted> anyone here manage to install KFTPGrabber on normal Ubuntu?
[06:07] <instabin> hey it works
[06:07] <instabin> do you know the port numbers so that i can forward them through my router
[06:08] <blueblood> ohh, different because its sata
[06:08] <amphi> gnomefreak: do you happen to know why ubuntu lacks alsaconf?
[06:09] <tiredbones> apt-cache showpkg zope*
[06:09] <gnomefreak> lacks? it is in synaptic no?
[06:09] <tiredbones> sorry about that.
[06:09] <blueblood> How do I mount a SMB share?
[06:09] <w32> hey when you logout of gnome in ubuntu what does save current setup checkbox do ?
[06:09] <SR_Bronze> smbmount used to work
[06:09] <amphi> gnomefreak: it is? it's not in the alsa-utils package
[06:10] <instabin> what are the port number for tight vnc
[06:10] <thinklinux> 0
[06:11] <Ng> w32: when you next log in the same applications will be running (ish)
[06:11] <mskehin> instabin: 5900 for screen 0, iirc
[06:11] <gnomefreak> amphi: no im not sure i thought it was
[06:11] <ubuntu> exit
[06:11] <instabin> mskehin thanks
[06:11] <amphi> gnomefreak: so did I :(
[06:11] <w32> ng: but if you reboot they are lost right ?
[06:11] <mskehin> =)
[06:12] <instabin> what is iirc
[06:12] <amphi> instabin: 'if I recall correctly'
[06:12] <Ng> w32: if you tick the save session option it will start them up again next time you log in, even if you reboot. except not all applications (e.g. firefox) support it
[06:13] <lollies> how do i get to a terminal window for a modem?
[06:13] <amphi> instabin: install bsdgames pckage and use wtf(6) ;)
[06:13] <mark_> amphi, even after installing the glib-dev it's still returning that error
[06:13] <w32> wow...lets see windows do that
[06:13] <amphi> lollies: minicom
[06:13] <instabin> just trying to figure out the vnc thing i want to be able to remotely connect to the computer at my house
[06:13] <lollies> does that come standard with ubuntu?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> mark_: make sure the path is set right (iirc it tells you to do that in the error)
[06:13] <instabin> with windows i just used the rdp
[06:13] <drummer> Help!  I can no longer get clean su access and several devices are suddenly saying permission denied!!!!!
[06:13] <amphi> mark_: you want libglib2.0-dev
[06:13] <gnomefreak> drummer: sudo not su
[06:14] <mark_> that's what I installed amphi
[06:14] <mark_> gnomefreak, , how would I set the path right?
[06:14] <instabin> Sorry im a mcp brain washed my microsoft
[06:14] <amphi> mark_: you're getting glib errors, or gtk errors now?
[06:14] <lollies> minicom unrecognised by bash
[06:14] <drummer> gnomefreak:  the message for several things is: "conversation with su failed."
[06:14] <instabin> just now getting my linux fix
[06:14] <mark_> amphi, still glib
[06:14] <Ng> lollies: install it :)
[06:14] <Ng> lollies: it'll be in apt/synaptics
[06:14] <amphi> lollies: apt-get install minicom
[06:14] <gnomefreak> drummer: did you enable su?
[06:14] <lollies> ta
[06:15] <amphi> mark_: paste the current error messages
[06:15] <mark_> they are still the same as they were before
[06:15] <drummer> gnomefreak:  yes  but makes no difference whether I try the root password for the sudo password.
[06:15] <gnomefreak> drummer: it does in a way there is a reason why su is not enabled
[06:15] <amphi> mark_: bollocks, I didn't read carefully - you need the libglib1.2-dev package, sorry
[06:16] <instabin> will i be able to play quake4 over vnc?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> and its not because ubuntu thought hey lets do things differetn :(
[06:16] <drummer> gnomefreak:  ???  I do not understand.
[06:16] <steve60> hi im trying to get xsane installed can anyone help me please
[06:16] <amphi> gnomefreak: heh
[06:16] <Ng> instabin: haha
[06:16] <Ng> instabin: no
[06:17] <Ng> instabin: almost no games are playable over any kind of remote desktop, let alone vnc and definitely not something intense like quake
[06:17] <v3> where does apt-get source place the downloaded files ?
[06:17] <Ng> v3: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:17] <instabin> o well stil will work for email. and showing off my new desktop
[06:17] <v3> Ng: hmmz the source files ? k tnx
[06:17] <Ng> v3: source files?
[06:17] <gnomefreak> drummer: hold on a min
[06:17] <Ng> oh sorry
[06:17] <Ng> v3: I misread your question
[06:17] <v3> Ng: apt-get source ...
[06:17] <instabin> well thanks
[06:17] <instabin> for the help
[06:17] <bluefoxicy> wow
[06:18] <bluefoxicy> there's like 5 icons in my notification area
[06:18] <gnomefreak> grrrrr still getting vrap :(
[06:18] <bluefoxicy> "Rebot" "New Updates" "Rhythmbox" "Gaim" "Running on AC Power" (on a desktop?!)
[06:18] <Ng> v3: that will write them to the current directory
[06:18] <amphi> v3: in the current working directory
[06:18] <v3> ah tnx
[06:18] <Ng> bluefoxicy: and?
[06:18] <bluefoxicy> plus the sound mixer applet (which I put next to the notification area for cosmetic purposes) and the network monitor
[06:19] <drummer> gnomefreak:  Will do.  First discovered the problem when i logged in this morn & the system said it could not initialize sound /dev/dsp because permission denied.  Then I discovered I couldn't get sudo access nor su acces to all kinds of things.
[06:19] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  there's lots of little icons in the system tray, like on windows :o
[06:19] <MisterN> bluefoxicy: if you reboot and then install your updates and stop using useless instant messaging its only one elft
[06:19] <v3> and is there a special way to build the files ? incase i decide to modify them and place them back in ?
[06:19] <Ng> bluefoxicy: that sounds like dapper and things will probably change in the next couple of months
[06:20] <amphi> v3: have a look at the debian reference on debian.org
[06:20] <v3> amphi: tnx i will have a look at it
[06:20] <Ng> v3: it creates a directory, go into that and run "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot" and it'll build the .deb's. Do also look for the New Maintainer's Guide from debian as amphi suggests
[06:21] <Ng> v3: (you may need to install the fakeroot pacakge)
[06:22] <cavediver> Sorry, but the howto didn't work. Still have resolutionproblems in xorg.
[06:22] <cavediver> However, after setting the h/v sync ranges I can now choose between 800x600 and 1280x102, but no higher.
[06:23] <amphi> cavediver: try xrandr in a terminal
[06:23] <Alexi5> hello
[06:23] <zAo^> what resolution is it that uou want cavediver ?
[06:23] <cavediver> 1680x1050
[06:23] <GPLGeek> Are there really people here sending people to #debian for help? Ubuntu is not debian. I'm sure we can find places for you guys to get help but it's hard to give help to somone when you're not in the right channel.
[06:23] <zAo^> cavediver: dell 2005FPW?
[06:23] <cavediver> amphi: will try that
[06:23] <Alexi5> i am sick of fedora. yum screwed up my system
[06:23] <Ng> GPLGeek: who said #debian?
[06:23] <cavediver> zAo^: yes..
[06:23] <GPLGeek> a LOT of people lately
[06:23] <zAo^> cavediver: 2005FPW here; VGA?
[06:23] <amphi> GPLGeek: ?
[06:23] <cavediver> zAo^: vga?
[06:23] <GPLGeek> I'm just wondering, im not mad at anyone
[06:24] <Ng> GPLGeek: I haven't seen anyone do it, but it does sound a little unhelpful
[06:24] <zAo^> cavediver: card brand? type?
[06:24] <Slack> helo
[06:24] <Slack> hello
[06:24] <Alexi5> i am thinking of downloading ubuntu
[06:24] <Ng> GPLGeek: part of the problem here is that you get people who think they can help, but actually can't ;)
[06:24] <amphi> GPLGeek: no sense sending them off to be ubuntusmitten ;)
[06:24] <cavediver> zAo^: Changed from geforce 5200 to a 6200 today. The dell is also new for today :)
[06:24] <Ng> Alexi5: a good move :)
[06:24] <GPLGeek> I respect Ubuntu and all, and want to help, but it's kinda strange how many people say that people been just pushing them off on other channels
[06:25] <zAo^> cavediver: nice, PM
[06:25] <cavediver> ok
[06:25] <Alexi5> i hope the ubuntu package management is not like yum
[06:25] <Ng> GPLGeek: everyone helping here is a volunteer. if the quality of their help is poor, correct them :)
[06:25] <amphi> GPLGeek: where do you see this? only #debian?
[06:25] <amphi> Alexi5: it isn't
[06:25] <gnomefreak> drummer: drummer whos is named in the /etc/sudoers file?
[06:25] <GPLGeek> I'm mostly in #debian and a few other channels.
[06:26] <Alexi5> i feel really mad
[06:26] <zAo^> cavediver: dude? look at the PM :)
[06:26] <NoStress> GPLGeek: i've never seen someone here redirecting people to #debian
[06:26] <GPLGeek> It was not all just today, I just wanted to figure out how we can best help people without them getting wrong distro smites
[06:26] <Alexi5> i stayed a whole day updating the syetm and now some of the updated apps don't work
[06:26] <amphi> !comfort Alexi5
[06:26] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, amphi
[06:27] <GPLGeek> ok, well I was not accusing anyone. I was just trying to figure out if it was going on and trying to figure out a way we can help.
[06:27] <Ng> GPLGeek: pass. I would hope that people are only suggesting it as a very last resort though
[06:27] <Alexi5> i am a kde fan
[06:27] <Ng> ubuntu forums/lists would be highly preferable
[06:28] <Ng> Alexi5: you'll be wanting kUbuntu then :)
[06:28] <Alexi5> ok
[06:28] <GPLGeek> The problem is most of the issues that come into the channel are not anything we can help
[06:28] <nickrud> GPLGeek, I've been hanging around here a long time (and all too often fall into the category that Ng mentioned). The really good helpers haven't been seen much the last couple of months
[06:28] <Alexi5> do they have the same packages
[06:28] <Ng> nickrud: it's a surprisingly hard thing to do consistently for a long time
[06:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell drummer about rootsudo
[06:28] <Ng> nickrud: mostly people help really hard for a while and then burn out and get a bit annoyed and leave
[06:29] <GPLGeek> I think one of the problems is people trying to use apt-sources from ubuntu to debian and reverse
[06:29] <nickrud> Ng, yeah, I've seen that
[06:29] <GPLGeek> and then complaining when a package breaks
[06:29] <nickrud> GPLGeek, oh, you don't realize :)
[06:29] <trev7389> Hey... I've got a quick question
[06:29] <Ng> GPLGeek: entirely possibly. Some of us do strenuously advise against using extra repositories, especially debian ones ;)
[06:29] <Ng> but others are a lot less strict about that :/
[06:29] <Pablo> gah
[06:29] <gnomefreak> everyone thinks cause its debian based they can use debian sources :(
[06:30] <drummer> gnomefreak: I'll take a quick look there.
[06:30] <GPLGeek> Custom repos are good for some apps, but distro repos are dangerous. you can break a system easy.
[06:30] <gnomefreak> drummer: i really think the su is conflicting with sudo and now neither work but im not 100% on that
[06:30] <Ng> GPLGeek: I take a pretty hard line and say that even custom repos are a bad idea, and I'm usually right because they're usually just some dude who builds a package for himself and slaps it on the web with no commitment to keep it updated ;)
[06:30] <mark_> http://mindtzar.pastebin.com/552860
[06:31] <mark_> what is the name of the GTK+ package
[06:31] <mark_> i did the apt-get search
[06:31] <mark_> but it listed thousands of things
[06:31] <zAo^> cavediver: saw my PM?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> gtk2?
[06:31] <trev7389> Ubuntu thinks that my speakers are headphones... I have some rather expensive speakers and they work fine on Windows (I have a dual-boot system). However, the sound quality on Linux is horrible.
[06:31] <amphi> gnomefreak: nah, 1.2 it seems
[06:31] <nickrud> mark_, libgtk2.0-0
[06:31] <Ng> mark_: I think you want libgtk1.2-dev
[06:31] <gnomefreak> ah
[06:31] <mark_> thanking you all very much :)
[06:32] <nickrud> androxxl, I really oughta not do this at work :)
[06:32] <GPLGeek> Ng, I have had many cases where custom distros have been awsome. I have had a few cases where they were not, but when dealing with newbies it is probably better to either stick with your distro's sources or compile your own stuff
[06:32] <GPLGeek> So yes I agree
[06:32] <amphi> mark_: libgtk1.2-dev
[06:32] <Ng> GPLGeek: yep
[06:32] <trev7389> Does anyone have any idea what's wrong?
[06:33] <amphi> trev7389: look in /usr/share/doc/alsa* ISTR something about that (swapping speaker/headphones)
[06:34] <drummer> gnomefreak: Ok I read the page.  How does that impact my situation?  I cannot run Synaptic nor several other packages - When I type in my sudo password - the package does not run.  I have NO sound, on boot it says permission denied for /dev/dsp  I can go on - but....
[06:34] <amphi> drummer: are you a member of the audio group?
[06:35] <instabin> !ipod
[06:35] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:36] <gnomefreak> drummer: if enabling su screwed up your sudoers than i would suggest getting rid of su (people come in here all the time with su issues affecting sudo)
[06:36] <drummer> amphi: I used to be!  I've been using the PC for quite some time and running Breezy for several months - these problems JUST occurred.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> there is a reason why on that page says not recommended
[06:36] <amphi> drummer: ok
[06:37] <drummer> gnomefreak: I can disable su access easily enough - but will that ficx the problem - (and if so How?)
[06:37] <drummer> gnomefreak: ficx = fix
[06:38] <gnomefreak> drummer: if the 2 are conflicting it might but from what ive seen people having to add themselves again
[06:38] <trev7389> @ amphi  Nothing there...
[06:38] <holobyted> anyone here manage to install KFTPGrabber on normal Ubuntu?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> i read typo well :)
[06:38] <mark_> how would I correct this error?
[06:38] <mark_> http://mindtzar.pastebin.com/552876
[06:38] <gnomefreak> mark_: what are you compiling?
[06:38] <instabin> is the multiuniversal repository down?
[06:38] <amphi> trev7389: oh, well, you must google then
[06:38] <mark_> xmms
[06:39] <gnomefreak> mark_: is there a problem with the one in synaptic?
[06:39] <drummer> gnomefreak: Uh, if i do not have access to root and my current login sudo has screwed the pooch, how do I "add myself" again?
[06:39] <Alexi5> which desktop do you guys find to be more responsive:kde or gnome
[06:39] <GPLGeek> drummer, I think you need to fix your sudoers file by adding your user: usernamehere   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:39] <mark_> a problem with xmms in synaptic? :\
[06:39] <gnomefreak> mark_: also have you run sudo apt-get build-dep xmms
[06:39] <feistel> hi
[06:39] <gnomefreak> mark_: xmms is in synaptic
[06:39] <gnomefreak> !info xmms
[06:39] <feistel> exist a way of make more verbose the logs of installer?
[06:39] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[06:40] <gnomefreak> ^^^^
[06:40] <drummer> GPLGeek: hmm - let me try that.
[06:40] <mark_> rofl, thanks gnomefreak
[06:40] <gnomefreak> mark_: your welcome
[06:40] <amphi> trev7389: it appears in the doc WRT snd-intel8x0 - is that what you have?
[06:40] <blueblood_> If I connect a network drive via the menu in Ubuntu, where in the filesystem is that created?
[06:40] <wuming> how can I retrive or reset my password, I forgot it
[06:40] <GPLGeek> Alexi5, gnome is slightly more lightweight, both are great, there are also other wms like fluxbox that are great.
[06:41] <Alexi5> ok
[06:41] <gnomefreak> xfce :)
[06:41] <Alexi5> so i guess kubuntu is as good as ubuntu
[06:41] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: same different wm
[06:41] <trev7389> amphi: Nope
[06:41] <wuming> how can I reset root password, I forgot it and could not login my system
[06:42] <amphi> gnomefreak: it's certainly more desktoppy
[06:42] <Alexi5> ok
[06:42] <raingrove> twm rocks
[06:43] <drummer> GPLGeek: I cannot seem to run visudoers.
[06:43] <Alexi5> fedora really disappointed me
[06:43] <raingrove> Alexi5, try gentoo
[06:43] <gnomefreak> lol raingrove
[06:43] <Alexi5> gentoo is too time consuming
[06:43] <GPLGeek> drummer, try sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[06:43] <gnomefreak> yeah he thought fedora dissappointed him :(
[06:43] <Alexi5> i have to build all those packages
[06:44] <amphi> drummer: or sudo visudo even
[06:44] <GPLGeek> ya
[06:44] <cavediver> Anyone having a Dell 2005FPW and Nvidia card? I can't run at the correct resolution.
[06:44] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: emerge isnt too bad its getting past the install people have issues with
[06:45] <Alexi5> oh ok
[06:45] <raingrove> i do emerging every nite before i go to sleep so it doesnt really matter to me
[06:45] <raingrove> i mean the time it takes
[06:45] <Alexi5> well all i want is a stable development workstation where i can have !!working!! development apps
[06:46] <danl> is there any tutorials for getting multimedia keyboard working fully in linux?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: ubuntu breezy badger 5.10
[06:46] <GPLGeek> cavediver, why so many dell problems today? Your'e like the 8th person to ask that lol!!!
[06:46] <amphi> Alexi5: vim gcc gdb ;)
[06:46] <cavediver> GPLGeek: really ? Strange :)
[06:46] <Alexi5> i want eclipse
[06:46] <GPLGeek> some people got (1680 x 1050) to work, cavediver
[06:46] <chris12349> does anyone no a fix for nvidia no letting me ctrl-alt-f1?
[06:46] <Alexi5> anjuta and the others
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: sudo apt-get eclipse-sdk
[06:46] <raingrove> i am using eclipse 3.1.1 on gentoo
[06:46] <GPLGeek> cavediver, some people had problems with dri
[06:46] <cavediver> GPLGeek: I know.. I'm trying to find their magical trick :)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> install*
[06:46] <amphi> cavediver: nothing useful on linux-laptop.net ?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install anjuta
[06:47] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:47] <janno> How i can connect with computer wich isent in my network in windos it was easy but here :S In windows i go to the \\XX.XX.XX.XX ( i know my english is very bad)
[06:47] <gnomefreak> there are tons of them :) but can i recommend vim-gtk ;)
[06:47] <drummer> gnomefreak:  you are correct - I cannot run jack - my sudo access seems to be totally screwed.
[06:47] <Alexi5> yum was that simple too untill it f#@k up my system
[06:47] <GPLGeek> cavediver, have you tried manually editing the x's config or using the setup tool?
[06:47] <cavediver> GPLGeek: DRI is disbled here...'
[06:47] <amphi> cavediver: you might need a modeline
[06:47] <GPLGeek> cavediver, as it should be
[06:47] <gnomefreak> yum is slow and unstable for me atleast it doesnt like grabbing depends
[06:48] <cavediver> GPLGeek: yes tried a bunch of different stuff. Adding modelines, changing h/v syncs....
[06:48] <blueblood_> How do I mount an SMB network share? I just want to mount it so I can backup :( Please, don't want to loose all my stuff
[06:48] <GPLGeek> cavediver, can you go into 16 at 1600x1050? some people had problems once going to 24
[06:48] <janno> The server runs ubuntu
[06:48] <dbernar1> GPLGeek: why use sudo nano vs. visudo?
[06:48] <cavediver> GPLGeek: How can I force x into 16 bit ?
[06:48] <GPLGeek> dbernar1, he said visudo didnt work
[06:48] <cavediver> Ah.. default depth or something ?
[06:49] <gnomefreak> cavediver: why force just use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:49] <Alexi5> is qt designer available for ubuntu
[06:49] <GPLGeek> change the number from 24 in default depth to 16
[06:49] <GPLGeek> if there is a 16 section
[06:49] <dbernar1> GPLGeek: sudo EDITOR=nano&&sudo visudo
[06:49] <GPLGeek> if not then make one
[06:49] <drummer> dbernar1: doesn't matter. visudo, vi, nano, gedit - need sudo access to modify the file and I do not have it anymore!
[06:50] <raingrove> Alexi5, if u want qt, why not just install kubuntu & kdevelop
[06:50] <amphi> drummer: maybe you need to reboot with init=/bin/bash and fix it
[06:51] <janno> How i can connect with server wich isent on my network but it uses ubuntu linux. We are using same ruuter but 2 different networks. I'd like to wach the shared files
[06:51] <AMCDeathKnight> I want to install AVG and since it is not in apt-get
[06:51] <AMCDeathKnight> Which one do I download
[06:51] <AMCDeathKnight> http://free.grisoft.com/doc/20/lng/us/tpl/v5
[06:51] <cavediver> No luck.... urk.
[06:51] <dbernar1> drummer: ya, it does not matter, the people that made visudo just had to much time on their hands. reboot in recovery mode, and add yiourself to that file(you will be root in recovery)
[06:51] <gnomefreak> avg the antivirus?
[06:51] <AMCDeathKnight> Yeh
[06:51] <GPLGeek> AMCDeathKnight, AVG is a commercial product that people have had some problems with in other channels, they found that ClamAV was a better choice.
[06:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell AMCDeathKnight about clamav
[06:51] <dbernar1> yup. that's grisoft all rightl.
[06:52] <AMCDeathKnight> hmm
[06:52] <raingrove> u know i love ubuntu alot, but i love my gentoo too... but polygamy isn't allowed
[06:52] <raingrove> what should i do
[06:52] <AMCDeathKnight> Thanks
[06:52] <janno> any1 please :S
[06:52] <drummer> dbernar1: recoovery mode = failsafe?
[06:52] <mark_> ubotu, tell mark_ about dual monitors
[06:52] <amphi> drummer: single user, presumably
[06:52] <gnomefreak> AMCDeathKnight: read the pm ubotu sent you for a great antivirus (that for the most part you dont really need)
[06:52] <dbernar1> I believe it is in fact called recovery mode. reboot, hit escape for the grub menu.
[06:52] <mark_> how would I sestup Dual monitors?
[06:53] <dbernar1> drummer: I would not however know for sure, cause I never reboot:P
[06:53] <Alexi5> ok
[06:53] <AMCDeathKnight> I know I just want to make sure my files are clean before I put them on a windows machine
[06:53] <ninnghizidha> what does the bus-ID means at lsusb?
[06:53] <raingrove> drummer: do you play drums
[06:53] <amphi> drummer: single user, from /boot/grub/menu.lst, ie. runlevel 1
[06:53] <drummer> raingrove: Yes - Irish bodhran
[06:53] <looksaus> I'm experiencing a bug in dapper that has not been reported yet, at least that's what I think
[06:54] <no0tic> I'm having problems with ndiswrapper and change of channel in dapper
[06:54] <raingrove> cool stuff
[06:54] <raingrove> i love irish instruments
[06:54] <dbernar1> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-386 (recovery mode) is my entry in grub.
[06:55] <janno> How i can connect with server wich isent on my network but it uses ubuntu linux. We are using same ruuter but 2 different networks. I'd like to wach the shared files
[06:55] <looksaus> my ibook g4 refuses to make any sound in recent kernels
[06:55] <drummer> Ok - I'm going to logg off  and see if I can repair sodoers file in failsafe mode.
[06:55] <dbernar1> looksaus: what have you tried
[06:55] <looksaus> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/29750 suggests this should have been fixed
[06:55] <looksaus> but it doesn't seem to be
[06:56] <dbernar1> drummer: it is called recovery mode. reboot, hit escape when booting, choose recovery mode
[06:56] <looksaus> dbernar1, cat wav file > /dev/dsp doesn't seem to give warning messages
[06:56] <looksaus> but I hear nothing either
[06:56] <dbernar1> looksaus: you checked sound levels?
[06:56] <looksaus> I think they are allright
[06:56] <looksaus> (yes, I checked them of course)
[06:57] <janno> !networking
[06:57] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, janno
[06:57] <holobyted> I'm recompiling my kernel. I'm using AMD64, but on Ubuntu 64. should I select 686 or AMD64/Opteron arch?
[06:57] <dbernar1> janno: yes, we have the ultimate ersource on all networking saved in Ubuntu
[06:57] <holobyted> err, Ubuntu 32*
[06:57] <looksaus> AMD64/Opteron, obviously
[06:58] <janno> krrr
[06:58] <looksaus> dbernar1, any suggestions for my additions to the 29750 bug report?
[06:58] <dbernar1> Jaymac: what's up?
[06:59] <dbernar1> looksaus: no, I do not know much about sound.
[06:59] <dbernar1> Jaymac: sorry.
[07:00] <looksaus> dbernar1, know of anyone else who can help me create a more precise bug report?
[07:00] <abre> how would i go about setting up mysql to listen on an external port. i.e. other than localhost
[07:00] <Jaymac> no prob..
[07:00] <dbernar1> localhost is not a port
[07:01] <HappyFool> abre: perhaps #mysql can help
[07:01] <dbernar1> abre: what version of mysql do you have?
[07:01] <malt> hello i installed proftpd and i was wondering i tryed to add a user by typeing this sudo useradd userftp -p mypassword -d /var/www/ -s /bin/false and it didnt not work how would i add a ftp user for directory /var/www/
[07:01] <abre> dbernar1, 4.1
[07:02] <abre> Happuf, i asked here because i thought it might be set up to do that automatically on other distros
[07:02] <dbernar1> malt: /var/www is readable by any user
[07:02] <malt> its for a site i got on it
[07:02] <malt> just to upload files and delte
[07:02] <albacker> guys i got ubuntu Cds from a friend [he downloaded/burned the isos for me]  before 3 months, and now i got eh ubuntu cds from ubuntu web page that gives free CDs. they both are ubuntu 5.10 i just wanted to know is there any difference between them ? [like a newer kernel version ??] 
[07:02] <malt> delete
[07:03] <mixandgo> hi,what's that wiki link for breezy repositories
[07:03] <HappyFool> !breezy
[07:03] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:03] <cavediver> How is Dapper. Is the majority of the breaking done yet ?
[07:03] <looksaus> albacker, they're exactly the same
[07:03] <malt> dbernar1 was that command right i used?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> albacker: not really it depends where your friend got htem from but either way updates will have newest kernel for that version
[07:03] <looksaus> cavediver, looks quite stable to me for the moment
[07:04] <dbernar1>  If you have a MySQL server listening on a given port number, you can use the following command to find out what operating parameters it is using for several important configurable variables, including the base directory and Unix socket filename:
[07:04] <dbernar1> shell> mysqladmin --host=host_name --port=port_number variables
[07:04] <cavediver> looksaus: Nice, any noticable differences ?=
[07:04] <dbernar1> abre: start at #mysql, and here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/multiple-unix-servers.html
[07:04] <abre> cheers
[07:04] <albacker> gnomefreak, you mean that the Cds i got now will have e newer kernel than my friend's cds ?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> albacker: either cd will be updated to the newest kernel
[07:04] <looksaus> cavediver, bits of polish here and there are probably the most important part
[07:05] <albacker> gnomefreak, this is my kernel version : 2.6.12-8-386
[07:05] <cavediver> Anyone have the link to the latest dapper-build ?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> no matter where you get it from
[07:05] <naetrick> Can someone inform me how to fix the following problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jTgcS173.html
[07:05] <looksaus> and better hardware support of course
[07:05] <gnomefreak> albacker: type in terminal sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:05] <naetrick> I have XFS built in to my kernel
[07:05] <dbernar1> you want a ftpuser to be able to delete and write to the folder?
[07:05] <dbernar1> directory.
[07:05] <dbernar1> malt: ^ sorry
[07:05] <cavediver> looksaus: maybe the xorg in dapper will work better with my  monitor's resolutions
[07:05] <albacker> gnomefreak, i have dial up..
[07:05] <gnomefreak> and that will give you the 2.6.12-10 (is the newest kernel for breezy still i think)
[07:06] <looksaus> naetrick, but do you have it built into your initrd?
[07:06] <sabdfl> Hello all. I have a small presentation to make about sabdfl's childhood. Do you know web pages about him ?
[07:06] <malt> dbernar1 well they will not be able to do it without a password
[07:06] <sabdfl> Oups
[07:06] <gnomefreak> albacker: than it will be a while :( thats the only way to update kernel is over net
[07:06] <sabdfl> About Mark shuttleworth
[07:06] <Scarborough> how do I register my name here?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Scarborough about register
[07:06] <dbernar1> malt: good, well, you have privileges for that user to write to the directory? did the command error out? did you read man useradd?
[07:06] <naetrick> looksaus: I'm not sure... how would I know if it was? And how do I? :)
[07:07] <albacker> gnomefreak, that's why i wanted to know if the CDs i got had a newer kernel than the ubuntu i have.
[07:07] <malt> no i got no error
[07:07] <sorush20> how do I find out what version of xorg I have?
[07:07] <malt> it just dont work when i try to go in ftp server it prompts for username/pw and it just dont work
[07:07] <gnomefreak> albacker: more than likely not they should all have pretty much same kernel
[07:07] <sabdfl> Never mind.
[07:08] <dbernar1> malt: ftp localhost?
[07:08] <gnomefreak> confused now i thought that was mark :(
[07:08] <looksaus> naetrick, think about it:
[07:08] <tomppa> hmm it seems that mplayer randomly takes audio/subtitles/videos from dvd, right?
[07:08] <malt> dbernar1 well all this is hosted from my old pc
[07:09] <dbernar1> malt: can you ping the computer? do you get asked for a user name and password?
[07:09] <looksaus> how can you mount root from a filesystem your machine doesn't know about yet...
[07:09] <malt> I can ping it the lanip 192.168.0.4
[07:10] <naetrick> that's true... how would I build it into my initrd?
[07:10] <dbernar1> malt: and? when you ftp to it, do you get asked for user name and password?
[07:10] <wolfMANIAC> how to downld AUTOMATIX
[07:10] <thomerz> hi, is there a programm to remove unneeded packages, like no more needed libs, and so on?
[07:10] <malt> dbernar1 yes
[07:10] <gnomefreak> wolfMANIAC: dont
[07:10] <wolfMANIAC> WHY??
[07:10] <gnomefreak> use easyubuntu
[07:10] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[07:10] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:10] <dbernar1> malt: can you log in with any other user?
[07:10] <malt> nope
[07:10] <malt> I even did the alias name and pw in config
[07:10] <dbernar1> malt: sudo invoke-rc.d proftps restart
[07:10] <malt> that didnt even work
[07:11] <wolfMANIAC> OK HOW TO DOWNLOAD easyubuntu
[07:11] <HappyFool> please don't use all caps
[07:11] <gnomefreak> wolfMANIAC: go to #easyubuntu   they will have a download link iirc
[07:11] <malt> dbernar1 i tryed restarting it many times
[07:11] <HappyFool> !easyubuntu
[07:11] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:11] <jeroenvrp> what happens when I kill the gam_server?
[07:12] <dbernar1> malt: try ftping from the machine itself, to itself. do you have a router?
[07:12] <HappyFool> no more gammon *sniffle*
[07:12] <naetrick> looksaus: How would I build it into my initrd?
[07:12] <holobyted> does Ubuntu come w/ graphical grub patch?
[07:12] <dbernar1> thomerz: soemthing like debfoster
[07:12] <malt> dbernar1 yeah i got a router
[07:12] <dbernar1> or deborphan
[07:12] <mark_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[07:12] <mark_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the ATI driver
[07:12] <mark_> see where it says that
[07:12] <mark_> what would i replace the #select ati driver part with
[07:12] <malt> dbernar1 i also tryed this cant even access ftp from the machine
[07:12] <dbernar1> malt: I did not catch, do you get asked for a user name and password?
[07:12] <malt> its on
[07:13] <malt> dbernar1 yes
[07:13] <tecs> is it a must to have a firewall installed in ubuntu?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> mark_: what driver did you install?
[07:13] <mark_> none yet ;\
[07:13] <gnomefreak> fglx?
[07:13] <dbernar1> malt: try vsftpd.
[07:13] <mark_> well
[07:13] <mark_> I ahve that one installed
[07:13] <gnomefreak> than why would you change it?
[07:13] <mark_> for better dual screen support
[07:13] <malt> dbernar1 ok is there a guide to set that up ?
[07:13] <mark_> because I don't know how to setup dual screens otherwise
[07:13] <dbernar1> malt: ya: "sudo aptitude install vsftpd"
[07:14] <malt> ok thanks
[07:14] <gnomefreak> mark_: im not sure about dual screens ones normally enough for me
[07:14] <mark_> lol
[07:14] <existance> I need to download some openGL libraries for a game I just got, but my repos are fubared.  Where can I download them?
[07:14] <looksaus> naetrick, you should read on debian kernel packaging
[07:15] <dbernar1> existance: fix your repos
[07:15] <gnomefreak> existance: fix your sources.list and you can apt-get install them :)
[07:15] <mark_> so gnomefreak, what would I replace the '#Select the ATI driver' part with
[07:15] <mark_> the name of an ATi driver?
[07:15] <mark_> :\
[07:15] <looksaus> naetrick, http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[07:15] <gnomefreak> mark_: i dont know for that
[07:15] <looksaus> I hope you'll be able to find something useful there
[07:15] <existance> gnomefreak, the problem is i'm at school, and I think the proxy is messing with the connection.
[07:15] <dbernar1> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:16] <gnomefreak> existance: the schools repos are messed up?
[07:16] <wolfMANIAC> im not able to get easyubuntu!!
[07:16] <gnomefreak> wolfMANIAC: why not
[07:16] <dbernar1> wolfMANIAC: why?
[07:16] <wolfMANIAC> juz cant find it
[07:16] <dbernar1> !easyubuntu
[07:16] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:16] <existance> gnomefreak, no...
[07:16] <gnomefreak> its right there
[07:17] <wolfMANIAC> the tar.gz at site is corrupt
[07:17] <existance> gnomefreak, I have to use a proxy to get an internet connection, and i'm not sure if that is messing it up.  The repos have never worked on this comp.
[07:17] <gnomefreak> wolfMANIAC: why would you say that?
[07:17] <_jason> existance: you need to setup apt to use the proxy
[07:17] <dbernar1> apt-proxy
[07:18] <wolfMANIAC> it is not gettin downloaded
[07:18] <wolfMANIAC> let me try again
[07:18] <existance> _jason, by using export http_proxy=proxyaddhere, or something else?
[07:18] <gnomefreak> wolfMANIAC: than try another mirror
[07:19] <_jason> existance: don't know about that way, only read about a proxy config file somewhere
[07:19] <existance> _jason, er.. where?
[07:20] <existance> _jason, the file, not where you read about it :-)
[07:20] <_jason> existance: http://www.buoy.com/(SessionID=079e4f432ac29b272dd7312908529234)/pipermail/lilug/2003-July/021667.html
[07:20] <existance> meh, thatll do
[07:20] <_jason> existance: I don;t remember either, I just regoogled :)
[07:20] <mark_> how do I open the fglrx control panel?
[07:20] <mark_> I just installed the package for it
[07:20] <dbernar1> existance: I think even synaptic has a gui for proxies. also, packages are at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:21] <Guillaume> Salut
[07:21] <dbernar1> salut
[07:21] <mark_> how do I open the fglrx control panel?
[07:22] <dbernar1> try fgl<tab><tab>
[07:22] <Guillaume> quel pour rouller un celeron2 499 en ubuntu, suije mieu avec i386 ou 686?
[07:22] <dbernar1> !fr
[07:22] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:23] <dbernar1> Guillaume: i386, je panse
[07:23] <percent20> is there software somewhere than can help teach someone the piano?
[07:23] <_jason> existance: you probably need to reboot for the settings to take place
[07:23] <dbernar1> Heh, I do not eevn know whether I said something in french now.
[07:23] <Guillaume> sorry :P
[07:24] <dbernar1> percent20: if there was, dr. google would know
[07:27] <percent20> dbernar1: been searching for while haven't found anything, but I am not to sure I am typing in the right things to search for that is why i asked
[07:28] <dbernar1> http://www.educational-software-directory.net/music/piano.html
[07:28] <dbernar1> "piano software" first hit
[07:28] <dbernar1> But, ya, like  you said, it is a subtle art alnmost.
[07:29] <percent20> none of that works in linux though that is what i am looking for.
[07:29] <naetrick> Ok... but since I built it _into_ the kernel (XFS support), and not as a module, I shouldn't need an initrd image, should I?
[07:29] <percent20> that is the main reason i am having problems
[07:29] <jbaloul> is keyboard layout brocken in kde dapper?
[07:30] <dbernar1> http://www.solfege.org/Solfege/WhoUsesSolfege?from=Solfege.WhoUseSolfege
[07:30] <dbernar1> percent20: you know why you can not find it? Cause you used linux instead of gnu, maybe.
[07:31] <trappist> percent20: I search freshmeat.net for things like that
[07:32] <albacker> for all ubuntu users : http://www.frsirt.com/english/advisories/2006/0519
[07:33] <trappist> percent20: http://freshmeat.net/projects/scret/
[07:33] <percent20> dbernar1: that is kinda cool
[07:34] <dbernar1> percent20: I sdearched for "piano software gnu"
[07:34] <s25> is there a way of getting a file from the internet and then saving it in a specific directory using the CLI?
[07:34] <percent20> dbernar1: ah cool thank you i will remember the gnu part.  I usually don't like results that i have gotten in th past with searching with gnu so i stopped.
[07:34] <dbernar1> heh
[07:34] <percent20> trappist: thanks man i am going to look at that one to it looks promising too.
[07:35] <dbernar1> s25: cd /path/to/dir; wget http://path/to/file. man wget
[07:35] <s25> thanks
[07:36] <trappist> s25: or wget -O /where/you/want/the/file.name http://server.com/file.name
[07:36] <dbernar1> nice
[07:37] <myki> Many files in my directory begins with 00. I want to change 00 to 24. Could you help me?
[07:38] <jbaloul> HELP!
[07:38] <jbaloul> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[07:38] <jbaloul> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:38] <existance> what does it mean if only the restricted repositories fail with apt-get update?
[07:38] <MarcN> myki: read about the command 'rename'.  From a console,    man rename
[07:39] <amphi> myki: for i in 00*; do mv $i ${i/00/24}; done should do it
[07:39] <myki> thx
[07:39] <Bergcube> Hmmm...  For the life of me I cannot remember that CLI command that displays distro version, kernel version, etc.  Can someone please remind me?
[07:39] <amphi> Bergcube: uname -r for kernel ver.
[07:40] <ibob63> Can anyone tell me a quick command to tell me my computers ip address?
[07:40] <amphi> ifconfig
[07:40] <ibob63> thanks
[07:40] <Bergcube> amphi~  Ah.  There it was.  Thanks a bunch!
[07:40] <_jason> Bergcube: lsb_release -a, uname -a
[07:40] <amphi> Bergcube: or were you thinking of procinfo?
[07:40] <suseforge> www.myispaddress.com works great
[07:41] <suseforge> myipaddress.com
[07:41] <dbernar1> myki: or use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8603, but you have to make it executable.
[07:41] <Bergcube> _jason~  Thanks to you too.  :-)
[07:41] <dbernar1> myki: you are probably best to learn how to ue rename
[07:41] <chris12349> what video card runs compiz the best so far? ati or nvidia?
[07:41] <Bergcube> amphi~  Nah, it was the uname command.  My brain seems to have gotten a non-stick coating....
[07:42] <myki> dbernar1: I'm thinking of learning bash-scripting, but i'm so lazy because of irc ;] 
[07:42] <Dasnipa`> bash scripting is very useful
[07:42] <wildcard> does anyone know how i can reset my mysql passwords?
[07:43] <amphi> Bergcube: heh
[07:43] <wildcard> i did something stupid and cant log in
[07:43] <amphi> compiz?
[07:43] <kyo> I followed the instrutions but I can't seem to set the last Firefox to the last ver as a default in the bin
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[07:43] <SAAD3OOO> Hello,does Gnome comes with Ubuntu iso image?
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm on notebook, and if i press the ctrl alt f1...6 i'm isn't get the console, i'm only get lines with pink or black background
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> i think it's a driver problem
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> any idea?
[07:44] <M_A_K> Is there a significant difference between kubuntu and ubuntu with kde installed along with gnome?
[07:44] <kyo> how old is the notebook
[07:45] <Poseidon_> by  #ubuntu
[07:45] <kyo> M_A_K, : no
[07:45] <Poseidon_> good luck !
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> 1
[07:45] <Poseidon_> to everyone !
[07:45] <SAAD3OOO> hello?
[07:45] <Poseidon_>  * bye !
[07:45] <_jason> SAAD3OOO: yes
[07:45] <nickrud> M_A_K, as long as you install kunbuntu-desktop, not kde
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> it's an one years old, amd 2000+ mobile with 256ram, (96 is the videocard)
[07:45] <SAAD3OOO> Hello,does Gnome comes with Ubuntu iso image?
[07:45] <M_A_K> So if I am new to linux and wish to try *ubuntu, would you suggest ubuntu and install kde as well or kubuntu?
[07:45] <amphi> MetaMorfoziS: did you look at linux-laptop.net ?
[07:45] <nickrud> kubuntu
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> and it's haev s3 integrated graphics
[07:45] <Bergcube> SAAD3OOO~  Yes indeed. Gnome is the default Ubuntu GUI.
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm didn't checked it
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> momend
[07:45] <amphi> MetaMorfoziS: savage?
[07:46] <SAAD3OOO> Bergcube thank you.
[07:46] <_jason> M_A_K: you just install the kubuntu-desktop package and you get both gnome and kde
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> dunno
[07:46] <M_A_K> nickrud : just out of curiosity, why?
[07:46] <SAAD3OOO> Bergcube Iam new to Ubuntu do you know a site for newbies?
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> wher can i check it?
[07:46] <amphi> MetaMorfoziS: what does lspci say about it?
[07:46] <_jason> SAAD3OOO: help.ubuntu.com, wiki.ubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[07:46] <nickrud> M_A_K, the kde metapackage is from debian, the kubuntu-desktop is from ubuntu
[07:46] <SAAD3OOO> _jason thanx
[07:46] <amphi> MetaMorfoziS: I had an s3 in my T22 and it gave some grief - IIRC using the vesafb console driver worked ok
[07:46] <Blaatje> Hi, i have used 3 different cd's and i reinstalled ubuntu and every time i got; Kernel linux386 cant be installed... Can somone help me? Thanks.
[07:47] <M_A_K> _jason : so I should download the kubuntu ios and go from there?
[07:47] <Nivko> Hi, i have used 3 different cd's and i reinstalled ubuntu and every time i got; Kernel linux386 cant be installed... Can somone help me? Thanks.
[07:47] <Bergcube> SAAD3OOO~  Newbie is a (very) relative term, but I recommend you start at http://help.ubuntu.com/
[07:47] <onkarshinde> Anyone Indian here?
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> moment i paste it
[07:47] <amphi> Nivko: please don't repeat
[07:47] <SAAD3OOO> And if I want to see if Ubuntu is compatible with my Laptop where do I go?
[07:47] <nickrud> M_A_K, apt-cache show kde , then kubuntu-desktop shows the difference
[07:47] <amphi> !tell onkarshinde about it
[07:47] <m_tadeu> hi...i'm unable to mount an ext3 partition
[07:47] <_jason> M_A_K: if you download the kubuntu iso, you will only get kde.  If you want to get gnome after that you just install 'ubuntu-desktop' package.  Then you will have both
[07:48] <M_A_K> Via synaptic?
[07:48] <Nivko> Hi, i have used 3 different cd's and i reinstalled ubuntu and every time i got; Kernel linux386 cant be installed... Can somone help me? Thanks.
[07:48] <_jason> M_A_K: yeah
[07:48] <Nivko> sorry crashed
[07:48] <amphi> SAAD3OOO: linux-laptop.net is a good place to start
[07:48] <onkarshinde> amphi: I asked Indian, not italian
[07:48] <amphi> onkarshinde: oops ;)
[07:48] <MetaMorfoziS> amphi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8604
[07:48] <SAAD3OOO> amblin it works fine when i installed SuSE. Does this means it will also work fine for Ubuntu?
[07:48] <Nivko> Hi, i have used 3 different cd's and i reinstalled ubuntu and every time i got; Kernel linux386 cant be installed... Can somone help me? Thanks. Plz help..
[07:49] <onkarshinde> I have tried to make a plugin using which I can send messages in Indina languages. But the letters look very small.
[07:49] <onkarshinde> Plugin for Gaim
[07:49] <thomerz> hi, what means xy % non-contigous memory at harddisk check at bootup?
[07:49] <amphi> MetaMorfoziS: 'UniChrome'? never 'eard of it ;) was linux-laptop.net any use?
[07:49] <onkarshinde> Starnge thing is that the letters look okay in Yahoo/GTalk clients
[07:50] <myki> I have files in format xxx.zzz.yyy.www I want to change names to yyy.zzz.xxx.www, how to do it?
[07:50] <Seveas> myki, man rename
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm dont know it's provider
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> only the albacomp
[07:50] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: do the indian fonts look normal-sized in other apps ?
[07:50] <amphi> onkarshinde: I presume you are familar with the indix project>
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> stick next of the touchpad
[07:50] <Nivko> Hi, i have used 3 different cd's and i reinstalled ubuntu and every time i got; Kernel linux386 cant be installed... Can somone help me? Thanks. Plz help..
[07:50] <iceman> anyone have the url to the nvidia driver howto
[07:51] <HappyFool> Nivko: if someone knows, they'll help; please stop repeating yourself
[07:51] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: Which other apps?
[07:51] <HappyFool> !nvidia
[07:51] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:51] <Nivko> ..
[07:51] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: i dunno, openoffice
[07:51] <setuid> Anyone know why Breezy is so far behind in packages?
[07:51] <Nivko> WTF
[07:51] <Nivko> FUCK UBUNTU
[07:51] <Nivko> now i got this:
[07:51] <onkarshinde> amphi: I installed ttf-indic-fonts package
[07:51] <kyo> ....
[07:51] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: my point is, sounds like a font problem
[07:51] <iceman> thanks
[07:51] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: OpenOffice is okay. Gedit is not.
[07:51] <amphi> onkarshinde: you might find useful info at http://cdacmumbai.in/projects/indix/ perhaps
[07:52] <ibob63> Is there a quick way I can switch off any firewalls that are running?
[07:52] <setuid> Anyone know?
[07:52] <setuid> I haven't seen updates to Breezy in months now
[07:52] <Seveas> setuid, breezy is stable
[07:52] <Seveas> no new versions
[07:52] <amphi> onkarshinde: is that the same for all gtk programs?
[07:52] <setuid> Seveas: What's "Unstable"?
[07:52] <HappyFool> setuid: no security holes, i'd guess
[07:52] <trappist> ubotu: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/flush
[07:52] <ubotu> trappist: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:52] <trappist> err
[07:52] <Seveas> setuid, dapper
[07:52] <trappist> ibob63: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/flush
[07:52] <_jason> setuid: that's good, that means there are no security problems that need patches
[07:52] <setuid> HappyFool: But its months behind current packages (udev for example)
[07:52] <onkarshinde> Seems so. In Character map also it is very small.
[07:53] <spiderworm_work> anyone here running mythtv on ubuntu?
[07:53] <setuid> dapper?
[07:53] <SAAD3OOO> I installed SuSE works fine on the laptop. Does this means it will also work fine for Ubuntu on the laptop?
[07:53] <amphi> onkarshinde: you could adjust the gtk/gnome theme font size perhaps
[07:53] <HappyFool> setuid: within particular releases, packages are not upgraded, only security-patched
[07:53] <onkarshinde> amphi: How?
[07:53] <setuid> Seveas: Doesn't appear to be a dapper-specific repo for my sources.list
[07:54] <Seveas> setuid, be glad - new udev needs new kernel :)
[07:54] <amphi> onkarshinde: gtk-theme-switch package
[07:54] <setuid> Seveas: I don't run distro kernels, I roll my own... have for years now.
[07:54] <Seveas> setuid, %s/breezy/dapper/ in your sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:54] <setuid> distro kernels are far too unstable and problematic
[07:54] <setuid> Seveas: I did that, I guess Kubuntu is behind a bit
[07:54] <trappist> setuid: they have their pros and cons
[07:54] <setuid> trappist: In some case
[07:54] <setuid> er, cases
[07:54] <trappist> yeah.  mostly cons, anyway :)
[07:55] <setuid> But as a developer debugging user problems, in 99% of the cases, distro kernels are the cause of many reported issues
[07:55] <lollies> when i run minicom on my modem and issue a atdt command
[07:55] <iceman> shoot that howto lacks ... anyone have the full nvidia install link ... url
[07:55] <lollies> the driver seems to crash with a segmentation fault
[07:55] <MetaMorfoziS> no there an easy way to test my drivers?
[07:56] <MetaMorfoziS> or not drivers the problem ?
[07:56] <piggah> 'lo everyone
[07:56] <lollies> i'm not sure
[07:56] <MetaMorfoziS> or any hardware analizer?
[07:56] <lollies> well i used scanmodem to try and detect the modem
[07:56] <nuxil> man i need man guys... from my synaptic it says that its installed but then i do man $anyCommand i get bash: man: command not found
[07:56] <lollies> it told me that i had a smartlink modem
[07:56] <setuid> 740 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 591 not upgraded.
[07:56] <setuid> Need to get 282MB of archives.
[07:56] <setuid> whee
[07:56] <lollies> got the drivers
[07:57] <setuid> Time to break my system, I see
[07:57] <Seveas> setuid, sounds bad
[07:57] <Seveas> did you try dist-upgrade and not upgrade?
[07:57] <lollies> but still doesn't seem to work
[07:57] <onkarshinde> amphi: How wil theme switch help?
[07:57] <setuid> Seveas: apt-get -fdu upgrade, then dist-upgrade if all goes well
[07:57] <nuxil> help me guys..
[07:58] <nuxil> manpages is green in synaptic
[07:58] <nuxil> that means its installed right?
[07:58] <Seveas> nuxil, yes
[07:58] <nuxil> so why do i get bash: man: command not found
[07:59] <boazy> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) were not met.
[07:59] <gnomefreak> can i stop make while its running and just do make again when i start it back up?
[07:59] <boazy> what does it mean?
[07:59] <boazy> like i eh?
[07:59] <nuxil> boazy your missing something
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> amphi if i search an s3 graphics driver
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> its solute?
[08:00] <nuxil> or got a to old version
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> IA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video
[08:00] <nuxil> Can someone help me
[08:00] <boazy> yeah but it's not possible
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> VIA
[08:00] <boazy> like where i can update to gtk+-2.0?
[08:00] <Seveas> !tell boazy about compiling
[08:01] <nuxil> !tell me about installing manpages
[08:01] <nuxil> !tell me about manpages
[08:01] <nuxil> blah
[08:01] <boazy> seveas - i know what compiling is. the problem is that i don't know what packages i should choose to have gtk+-2.0
[08:01] <Seveas> because the man command is not in the manpages package
[08:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nuxil about manpages
[08:01] <bimberi> nuxil: the man executable is in the man-db package
[08:01] <HappyFool> !info manpages
[08:01] <gnomefreak> oops :(
[08:01] <ubotu> manpages: (Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux system), section doc, is standard. Version: 2.02-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 382 kB, Installed size: 712 kB
[08:02] <Seveas> nuxil, install ubuntu-standard and perhaps ubuntu-desktop
[08:02] <gnomefreak> ok im gonna try to kill make see what happens night all
[08:02] <trappist> nuxil: sudo apt-get install --reinstall man-db
[08:02] <iceman> where can a get a complete working source.list
[08:03] <nuxil> ok..
[08:03] <Nogimics> <- linux n00b but im going thru a tutorial that says /mnt normally has your CD-ROM/Floppy Drive settings etc in it or other mountable devices. Why would mine be empty? So for stupid question just testing stuff out
[08:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell iceman about sources
[08:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell iceman about easysource
[08:04] <HappyFool> Nogimics: in ubuntu it's usually /media
[08:04] <Nogimics> Right, thanks for that
[08:04] <nuxil> gnomefreak & trappist thxz
[08:04] <Nogimics> HappyFool: that's also empty lol
[08:05] <mack_> Can anyone help me out a bit with automatically mounting Windows partitions to be accessable through a non-root user?  My fstab currently reads '/dev/hda5 /mnt/stuff ntfs rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,user,async 00'
[08:05] <HappyFool> Nogimics: hmm, odd. mine has cdrom, floppy and usbdisk
[08:05] <Nogimics> I have floppy and CD-Rom installed
[08:05] <nuxil> mack_ dude never RW a ntfs partition
[08:05] <Nogimics> so it shouldn't be
[08:05] <HappyFool> Nogimics: are you running normal ubuntu gnome ?
[08:05] <Nogimics> I am SSH in at the moment but year
[08:06] <Nogimics> cd /media and ls -a
[08:06] <trappist> mack_: try adding umask=0 to the options list
[08:06] <Nogimics> Nowt there
[08:06] <HappyFool> Nogimics: what does 'grep cdrom /etc/fstab' say ?
[08:06] <iBalo> mack_: Assumming you are aware thar there is no write support for ntfs in ubuntu, add a umask=000 to your mount-options
[08:06] <Nogimics> no line, brings me back to prompt
[08:07] <HappyFool> Nogimics: looks like ubuntu doesn't know about your cdrom
[08:07] <nuxil> iBalo ther is  NO write support for ntfs.. can only owerwrite exsiting files with same size
[08:07] <iBalo> mack_: and scratch the rw
[08:07] <HappyFool> Nogimics: i have a line like this: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:07] <unf_> gl
[08:08] <Nogimics> HappyFool i'll VNC in and see if it works via the gui the cd-rom and a:/ however im sure they do
[08:08] <nuxil> mack_  take a look in the kernel source and see what it telle you anout ntfs write support
[08:08] <bimberi> mack_: my line (which works for my user as well as root) is "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0"
[08:09] <ortner> Is there any good music mastering program such as adobe audition for linux?
[08:09] <mfuentes> hi
[08:09] <HappyFool> Nogimics: i'd recommend logging in with gnome and putting a CD in to see what happens, though it sounds like that's not an option at the moment. It's quite possible the entries in /media are created on demand (i'm not sure)
[08:10] <trappist> HappyFool: I believe that's the case
[08:11] <HappyFool> trappist: ah-ha, thanks
[08:11] <mack_> iBalo: Was just going with an altered version of 'defaults' and forgot to take out the 'rw'.  Thanks.
[08:11] <startu_net> saluton chiuj!!!!
[08:11] <Nogimics> So is that the case then HappyFool?
[08:11] <Nogimics> I wont see anything unless it's in use?
[08:11] <mfuentes> How I can know the quantity of memory in my video card?
[08:12] <HappyFool> Nogimics: well, only after you use it the first time
[08:12] <HappyFool> Nogimics: e.g., i have neither a floppy disk or memory stick in my pc at the moment, but the entries remain in /media
[08:12] <ilba7r> hi running an .rm file with totem-xine the pc hangs and i get kernel panic message when i look at dmesg? any ideas?
[08:12] <startu_net> I am trying to play a song from a samba share but both XMMS and VLC do not play the file. Only when I first copy it to the desktop. What is the normal way to play a file from a share?
[08:12] <Nogimics> I have not used the drive since I installed ubuntu with it
[08:13] <Darky469> lo all
[08:13] <eXi> i'm looking for xine-1.1.1 - are there any debs? like a -current branch or something like this...
[08:14] <Darky469> anyone  has  expererians with  linux  on  a  toshiba labtop
[08:14] <iBalo> quick poll: what bittorrent-clients are you guys using? I still haven't one i really like...
[08:14] <n0dl> does anyone know the channel for damn small linux?
[08:14] <lucaaas> #dsl ?
[08:14] <lucaaas> no, not that
[08:14] <n0dl> yeh it isnt that
[08:15] <rene_> hello all
[08:15] <eXi> is there any .deb repository newer than breezy?
[08:15] <omerix> if i forgot my root password, how can define a new password?
[08:15] <rene_> french here ?
[08:15] <m_tadeu> i'm getting errors mount an ext3 partition...can anyone help?
[08:15] <lucaaas> anyone got a ubuntu dapperdrake flight-4 mirror that works?
[08:16] <HappyFool> omerix: boot into recovery mode and run 'passwd'
[08:16] <bimberi> omerix: sudo passwd root  ??
[08:16] <omerix> ok
[08:16] <drummer> GPLGeek, gnomefreak, amphi and anyone else I missed - thanks for the help.  Rebooting in recovery mode I was able to edit my sudoers file and re-add me.  That basically solved the problem - So Thanks again for the info and advice.
[08:16] <HappyFool> *oops*
[08:16] <amphi> drummer: cool
[08:16] <Bergcube> rene_~  I think there is an #ubuntu-fr channel...
[08:16] <trappist> there is
[08:16] <GPLGeek> drummer, no problem, its a known issue but can be confusing lol.
[08:17] <ilba7r> hi running an .rm file with totem-xine the pc hangs and i get kernel panic message when i look at dmesg? any ideas?
[08:17] <dudu> hi
[08:17] <drummer> still do not understand how or what removed me from the bloody thing.
[08:17] <trappist> ilba7r: dmesg gives you a kernel panic? or just shows you one?
[08:17] <dudu> Is there anyone?
[08:17] <drummer> GPLGeek: are you saying this has happened to other people too?
[08:18] <ilba7r> trappist the pc hangs and the last thing i see on the screen is the kernel panic message
[08:18] <mixandgo> I am having some problems installing ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop with sata hdd ! is there some special option I need to boot with ?
[08:18] <trappist> ilba7r: any information from the kernel panic?
[08:18] <m_tadeu> i'm getting errors mount an ext3 partition...can anyone help?
[08:18] <technomancy> anybody use a mac keyboard?
[08:18] <technomancy> the alt keys don't work right
[08:18] <ilba7r> trappist let me check it out now. it was just a code with bunch of numbers
[08:19] <GPLGeek> drummer, many people have installed ubuntu to find that sudoers was not working and they could not su because they dont have a root password set
[08:19] <trappist> ilba7r: oh, that won't help
[08:19] <pawel> mfuentes: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep "Total Mem:"
[08:19] <boazy> ok - i have read what is written in the wiki but sorry there isn't anything considering the gtk+-2.0 error i have gotten
[08:19] <trappist> ilba7r: won't help me, anyway
[08:19] <boazy> so does anybody know what is the real problem
[08:19] <boazy> ?
[08:19] <trappist> ilba7r: I get that sometimes playing movies over the network if I try to seek too fast
[08:19] <rene_> re hello all
[08:19] <omong> test
[08:19] <ilba7r> trappist, the file is on my home dir
[08:19] <rene_> is existe canl french ?
[08:19] <Bergcube> mixandgo~  AFAIK 5.10 has no support for sata, be it laptop or desktop. According to the ubuntu-user mailinglist. That fits with my experiences with a desktop machine I have; with dapper the sata works as it should.
[08:20] <mkane12> does anybody know a good burning program to use with linux?
[08:20] <GPLGeek> drummer, also some people use sudo and then for some reason it just stops working, thats why many people say you should sudo su and then passwd, but that is kinda a touchy area.
[08:20] <drummer> GPLGeek: But it's been working for months.  Why, how would it suddenly get modified.  "I" didn't edit the file.
[08:20] <ilba7r> trappist, and it just ran fine now with realplayer. only had this error consist with totem-xine
[08:20] <mixandgo> Bergcube: is dapper stable ?
[08:20] <startu_net> NOBODY here knows how to play a song from a samba share???????
[08:20] <lucaaas> mkane12, k3b is good, qt though
[08:20] <trappist> startu_net: mount the samba share and play it as you would any other song
[08:20] <thingy> Bergcube, I'm using a sata disk with 5.10 at the moment...where did you read that SATA doesn't work in 5.10?
[08:20] <GPLGeek> drummer, many people say it happened after they apt-get something or a system wide upgrade
[08:20] <Bergcube> mixandgo~  Well...  yes and no.  Define "stable" !!!!  :-D  It is good enough for me, but might still go belly-up.
[08:20] <iBalo> startu_net: this looks like permission problems
[08:20] <mkane12> lucaaas, any idea where i could get a copy of it though?
[08:21] <GPLGeek> Others have it happen on the first initial install
[08:21] <startu_net> trappist: how should I mount it?
[08:21] <mixandgo> thingy: did you have any problems installing it ?
[08:21] <lucaaas> mkane12, sudo apt-get install k3b ;)
[08:21] <pawel> mkane12: apt-get install k3b.
[08:21] <pawel> ;>
[08:21] <rene_> does anybody know french canal ubuntu ?
[08:21] <boazy>  Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) were not met.
[08:21] <thingy> Bergcube, no...was as straightforward as an ide disk
[08:21] <iBalo> !fr
[08:21] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:21] <ilba7r> trappist, do you have an ati card and running fglrx?
[08:21] <rene_> ok
[08:21] <rene_> thanks
[08:21] <drummer> GPLGeek: Ah - so one or more of the packages or a "bug" in apt-get itself must be th culprit.
[08:21] <startu_net> trappist: I did places and then  connect to server.
[08:21] <trappist> ilba7r: not on the box that was giving me the trouble, but on the box I'm on now I do
[08:21] <Bergcube> thingy~  I read it as a reply on a question about that on the mailing list.  It said backporting kernel support for 5.10 wasn't a priority, but that they were working on it for dapper.  So I do not KNOW: I relay what others have stated on the list.
[08:22] <startu_net> trappist: then I can browse the files.
[08:22] <mkane12> lucaaas: i'm kinda new to linux and i'm not sure what that means
[08:22] <mkane12> lol
[08:22] <thingy> Bergcube, it just turns up as an sd[a-z] [1-9]  drive...indead of a hd[a-z] [1-9]  one
[08:22] <trappist> startu_net: I don't use gnome, so I don't know how gnome prefers to do it
[08:22] <ilba7r> trappist, i suspect it might be the problem here. Thanx for you help though my firend
[08:22] <trappist> ilba7r: I wouldn't expect so, if realplayer plays it without trouble
[08:22] <GPLGeek> drummer, I use debian myself, I don't really know because we don't really have this problem... I was just here because people were screaming for help.
[08:23] <pedrocr> is there any way to use linux-wlan-ng in the install process? so I can use my USB wi-fi dongle?
[08:23] <trappist> ilba7r: if you have win32codecs totem would just be using realplayer's codecs
[08:23] <aireson> can someone help me im trying to switch from ubuntu back to windows 98
[08:23] <ilba7r> trappist, what might it be then. ps trying dmesg now i have no message regarding the kernel message problem
[08:23] <aireson> how can i format my hard drive through ubuntu
[08:23] <GPLGeek> drummer, I have used ubuntu though. And my friends use it. So I know a bit.
[08:23] <startu_net> Anyone here mounting samba shares on GNOME?
[08:23] <ferdl> hi everyone
[08:23] <trappist> ilba7r: actually... DO you have w32codecs installed?
[08:23] <ilba7r> trappist, yap
[08:23] <trappist> ilba7r: if so, can mplayer play the file?
[08:23] <ferdl> i have question
[08:23] <GPLGeek> aireson, do you have dual boot set up?
[08:24] <iBalo> aireson: depnds on which filesystem you want on the partition
[08:24] <ferdl> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:24] <lucaaas> mkane12, its a terminal/console line, which does.. sudo = get administrative rights, apt-get = ubuntus package system, installs/removes/upgrades programs/the system, install=install, k3b= the app you want to install
[08:24] <Bergcube> aireson~  Not to be uppity ( I still use the Redmond alternative OS myself on one of my computers ) but why do you want to reinstall win98?
[08:24] <ilba7r> trappist, totem start to play the file. then all of a sudden a black screen and the kernel panic message. Then the pc hangs
[08:24] <setuid> Is there a faster mirror than archive.ubuntu.org?
[08:24] <setuid> er, archive.ubuntu.com
[08:24] <startu_net> ferdl: k is kde
[08:24] <aireson> Bergcube because my sound doesnt work with ubuntu
[08:24] <drummer> GPLGeek: Well glad you and the others were around - I use Ubuntu in my office more many things - and also run VMWare with a Win2k guest for all the M$ stuff I also must do.
[08:24] <trappist> ilba7r: right, but if you play it with mplayer...
[08:24] <GPLGeek> aireson, is win98 still on yoru system somewhere? If not you will have to use fdisk and create a new partition and install win98 there.
[08:24] <ilba7r> trappist, let me check
[08:24] <ferdl> and ubuntu is with what
[08:24] <aireson> Bergcube its unfixable crimsun spent like 3 hours trying to fix it
[08:24] <GPLGeek> aireson, we could probably fix your sound...
[08:25] <aireson> nope you cant i tried for a long time we tried modprobe and everything and it just wont work
[08:25] <ilba7r> trappist, plays though little bit crappy but plays
[08:25] <thingy> ilba7r, identify what hardware is causing the panic...your possible causes are memory (but then you would have panics a lot more and not just when playing a vid), graphcis card, sound card, ide controller.
[08:25] <mkane12> thaaaank you very much lucaaas!! I don't mean to be annoying, but is there a way i can find out what else is in this package system?
[08:25] <trappist> GPLGeek: if crimsun tried for 3 hours and failed, it prolly ain't gonna work
[08:25] <lucaaas> mkane12, you could also you synaptic, which you might find eaiser, there you search for the program and double click to select it for installation
[08:25] <GPLGeek> aireson, what audio do you have?
[08:25] <drummer> GPLGeek: Need to get back to work that pays - ciao!
[08:26] <Bergcube> aireson~  I see.  Well, that must be a "valid" reason.  But you DO realise that Win2000 doesn't need much more muscle and is INFINITELY more stable and trustworthy than 98?
[08:26] <GPLGeek> trappist, I can usually fix problems that perplex people for hours in about 5 min
[08:26] <iBalo> aireson: what make is your soundcard?
[08:26] <aireson> Bergcube then il lget win 2000
[08:26] <trappist> GPLGeek: crimsun is THE sound guy for ubuntu, but feel free to give it a shot
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody heard about libvgahw?
[08:26] <ilba7r> thingy how can i identiy that?
[08:26] <thingy> ilba7r, priv msgs ok?
[08:26] <ilba7r> ok
[08:27] <lucaaas> mkane12, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> !libvgahw
[08:27] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <trappist> of course, this WOULD be the first time I ever heard of a sound card not working in linux
[08:27] <mkane12> lucaaas, again thank you very much!
[08:28] <thomerz> hi, if i search something, i get the following message: find: Warning: the number of hard links in /proc is wrong... <- whats wrong here?
[08:28] <lucaaas> mkane12, no problem :)
[08:28] <ilba7r> thingy are you registerd?
[08:28] <takedown> !tell me about ff1.5
[08:28] <iBalo> thomerz: PEBKAC
[08:28] <thomerz> iBalo, what?
[08:29] <takedown> !ff.15
[08:29] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, takedown
[08:29] <takedown> !ff1.5
[08:29] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:29] <Bergcube> aireson~  One last thing you could try if you're interested is to boot your computer with the Knoppix or Linspire live CDs.  They're both incredible at autodetecting hardware.  And if sound works with any of those, it will be possible to get it working with Ubuntu as well.  Just a thought as a last out if you want to go for open software.....
[08:29] <spibants> hi all.configure stops and prompts Couldnt find openssl library installation dir..i have openssl installed..any ideas?
[08:29] <iBalo> Problem exists between keyboard and chair :-)
[08:30] <thomerz> iBalo, and what is the problem?
[08:30] <aireson> Bergcube well see go to linux-laptops.net and look for the thinkpad 770
[08:31] <Bergcube> trappist~  I have a nightmare of a compaq deskpro from the dark ages.  (P3, 800 MHz.) Under Ubuntu sound out works fine, but recording?  Neuuuuu.....  But I am shopping for a new comp, so I'll buy my way out of that problem.
[08:31] <aireson> i tried doing exactly that and i get an error saying that module doesnt exist
[08:31] <aireson> or something
[08:31] <iBalo> U can't use find on virtual filesystems like /proc or /sys (deprecated). use locate instead
[08:32] <trappist> iBalo: where did you get that idea?
[08:32] <thomerz> iBalo, but i hadn't this problem on my old laptop i think, when i tried to search in / with find
[08:32] <jebus01> greetings, i am running into a permissions problem when copying data from a cd everything has root permission only after being copied from a cd onto the harddrive the user has permissions as far as I can tell so is there a way to go about setting up the permissions so that the user has full access after copying the files from a cd?
[08:32] <Bergcube> aireson~  Aha.  My symphaties...  The one computer I'm still running windows on is a Thinkpad.....  Mine is a tad newer than yours but even so I guess I've had some of the same problems as you.
[08:33] <Cornel> hello
[08:33] <setuid> Seveas: Why isn't dapper on any mirrors?
[08:33] <Cornel> i need to install tcl on my ubuntu linux
[08:33] <trappist> aireson: what module doesn't exist?
[08:33] <Seveas> setuid, it is....
[08:34] <omerix> kubuntu or ubuntu-which one is better?
[08:34] <setuid> hrm, not on the 12 I just checked
[08:34] <aireson> Bergcube whats up with thinkpads are they THAT different -_-
[08:34] <bimberi> omerix: try both, and make your own decision :)
[08:35] <trappist> omerix: if there was an answer to that, only one of them would exist.
[08:35] <earthen> anyone know of a good program like paint
[08:35] <trappist> earthen: paint is not a good program
[08:35] <aireson> earthen gimp, photoshop, paintshop, painter
[08:35] <ferdl> i guess gimp
[08:35] <suseforge> Omerix: live cds exist for both distros, they use different gui's
[08:35] <ferdl> its freeware
[08:35] <aireson> earthen gimp is the only one i know for linux
[08:35] <suseforge> I would suggest trying both.
[08:35] <trappist> ferdl: it's NOT freeware
[08:35] <lucaaas> gimp is not very alike paint though
[08:35] <aireson> earthen and its free
[08:35] <earthen> Paint is good for doing simple things
[08:35] <trappist> ferdl: freeware != free software
[08:35] <ferdl> is it nor
[08:35] <amphi> Bergcube: everything works well here on my T42
[08:35] <ferdl> sorry
[08:36] <Bergcube> aireson~  I honestly don't know.  I haven't tried many enough to have any statistically significant experience.  But the ONLY linux that will run on my Thinkpad is DSL.  But THAT runs so smooth and fast it can make you gasp...   Good thing it uses apt, just as Ubuntu.
[08:36] <aireson> ferdl gimp is free....
[08:36] <setuid> Seveas: Any ideas which ones carry it?
[08:36] <earthen> the gimp is freaking hard to do thing and i don't have time to learn it
[08:36] <earthen> I just want something to do cut and paist and add some text
[08:36] <Bergcube> amphi~  Well, then I have a T40r that could need your TLC!
[08:36] <aireson> earthen sorry there is nothing then....
[08:37] <earthen> I tried gnupaint but it's crap
[08:37] <aireson> earthen if it was more simple it woudnt be so powerful
[08:37] <omerix> suseforge: i'm using ubuntu
[08:37] <earthen> and tuxpaint is for kids and doesn't do cut and paist
[08:37] <amphi> Bergcube: what gives you problems on it?
[08:37] <amphi> Bergcube: BTW, I'm running debian on my T42
[08:37] <earthen> I don't need it to be more powerful
[08:38] <amphi> earthen: you want to add text to an image?
[08:38] <omerix> suseforge: is there a sufficient different except kde-gnome
[08:38] <earthen> just simple editing simmilar to what Microsofe paint does
[08:38] <suseforge> Omerix: Kubuntu use KDE desktop which is more like windows that you are probably familiar with. Gnome is know for its ease of use and simplicity...II prefer Gnome.
[08:38] <Bergcube> amphi~  Hm.  Everything?  Either it hangs already during SW install, or it hangs during first boot from HD.  I am not able to run any live CD on it, apart from DAmn Small Linux....  Even Insert Linux makes it freeze.
[08:38] <earthen> I want to add some text and momve some things around and erace some stuff
[08:38] <janno> Is there some freeware macro for linux?
[08:38] <amphi> earthen: you could try imagemagick perhaps, but gimp is simple for simple tasks
[08:39] <aireson> Bergcube can u help me make my laptop like fresh so i can use my windows boot disk on it and install a new os
[08:39] <lucaaas> earthen, you could try gpaint, but its not that good
[08:39] <janno> !macro
[08:39] <ubotu> janno: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:39] <aireson> Bergcube i want it so linux was like never there
[08:39] <amphi> janno: m4 ?
[08:39] <Bergcube> amphi~  But to me it's no big deal.  I am an IT consultant for hire, and because of customers I have to have the REdmond OS on one of my computers.  Might just as well be the Thinkpad.
[08:39] <bimberi> !info gpaint
[08:39] <ubotu> gpaint: (GNU Paint - a small, easy to use paint program for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2.4+0.3.0pre5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 120 kB, Installed size: 636 kB
[08:39] <HappyFool> janno: what do you mean by macro ?
[08:39] <earthen> I was trying gimp I never used it before and i find it quite confusing pretty much like photoshop
[08:39] <suseforge> Omerix: not really, I believe that Kubuntu uses and different Red Hat Package management then synaptic but i cannot confirm that. You can access the Kubuntu page off of Unbutu's homepage
[08:39] <bimberi> earthen: perhaps gpaint
[08:39] <janno> What will click
[08:39] <amphi> Bergcube: uhuh - but that's strange - the two stinkpads I have used with debian have worked perfectly, T22 & T42
[08:40] <Bergcube> aireson~  Then you could simpy wipe the disk.  There are ways to remove the bootloader etc, but I think a wipe will take less time.
[08:40] <amphi> Bergcube: and a three-button pointing device is a shame to waste on a legacy os ;)
[08:40] <mt3> Hi guys
[08:40] <aireson> Bergcube how can i do that with ubuntu still there, isnt dos gone?
[08:40] <earthen> I tried gpaint but it doesn't do cut and past
[08:40] <janno> I'd like to record my moves, click and macro will to it again and again
[08:40] <mt3> My brother's wireess PCI card is busted and I need to buy him a new one. He runs Ubuntu 5.10 what cards are well supported?
[08:41] <ferdl> is it a problem to run both ubuntu and xp on the same system (but different harddrives)
[08:41] <earthen> it doesn't allow me to sellect a section of the picture and move it
[08:41] <amphi> mt3: ralink rt2500 is well supported by a gpl driver, which has rfmon now it seems
[08:41] <suseforge> Ferdl: 99
[08:41] <janno> Moves arent important but clicks are
[08:41] <Bergcube> aireson~  Use the Ultimate Boot CD.  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/   There are several tools you can use to mung your disk on the CD.
[08:41] <suseforge> 99% of the time no, the installer will recognize your windows partition and your bootloader will provide which os you prefer to boot
[08:42] <mt3> What cards have that chipset or is there anywhere I can find out?
[08:42] <ferdl> thanks
[08:42] <earthen> ferdl,  I have that done and no problems at all
[08:42] <Bergcube> amphi~  Anything capable of running a GUI is a waste on a legacy OS!
[08:42] <ferdl> so there is something like lilo
[08:42] <suseforge> Yes...you should back up your windows partition just to be on the safe side as with any duall boot pc
[08:43] <amphi> earthen: it does; mask a rectangle, right-click and choose Select-Float
[08:43] <tanubis> does anyone know how I'd go about using wine to run a game?
[08:43] <mt3> I know the Belkin 54g cards use the Ralink but that's what he has at the moment and we've gone through 3 of thema nd tey've never lasted more than a few months
[08:44] <dyrne> tanubis: wine executablename.exe
[08:44] <dyrne> tanubis: wine installs software to your /home/usrname/.wine/ directory
[08:44] <tanubis> dyrne: I used wine to install the game, but I'm a little unsure about where I can find the simulated directory the game installed to.  It seemed to think it was installing to something like c:/Program Files/....  but obviously it's being simmed somewhere.
[08:45] <djp> how do i get an adsl modem working under ubuntu? i gather i need the ECIADSL package, but without an internet connection, do not know how i would go about getting such a package installed?
[08:45] <setuid> hrm, this is all kinds of broken
[08:45] <tanubis> dyrne: thanks
[08:45] <dyrne> tanubis: np
[08:45] <Bergcube> Hah!  I just updated my combined file-server / guest computer from 5.04 to 5.10.  No snags.  *Dance of victory*
[08:45] <amphi> mt3: intel 2200bg is well supported, if 'well' includes evil proprietary firmware ;)
[08:46] <setuid> Why aren't mirrors consistent?
[08:46] <setuid> Err http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz dapper-updates/restricted Sources
[08:46] <setuid>   404 Not Found
[08:46] <amphi> mt3: ipw2200.sf.net is the driver's page
[08:46] <setuid> But going there in a browser, it *IS* there
[08:46] <aireson> Bergcube does this ubsd work with linux
[08:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell djp about adsl
[08:47] <lucaaas> so, anyone know a mirror for dapper flight-4?
[08:47] <catchphrase> What and where are "Universe and Multiverse repositories" ? How do I check if they are enabled?
[08:47] <Bergcube> aireson~  Unable to parse input.  What are you asking?
[08:47] <aireson> Bergcube ultimate boot cd, does this work for linux ubuntu
[08:47] <Donvinzk> pour resizer une partition ntfs vous me conseillez quoi ?
[08:48] <Donvinzk> sorry !
[08:48] <Bergcube> setuid~  I guess I must have played too much AD&D.  My first reply concerning your mirror question was "Because mirrors are protals to other locations!"
[08:48] <Donvinzk> What should I use to reseize a NTFS partition
[08:48] <Donvinzk> ?
[08:48] <earthen> amphi, in what program you using
[08:48] <amphi> earthen: that was in gimp
[08:48] <bk> does anyone know how to get the "dialog" command to working in bash, while using Ubuntu
[08:48] <Goshawk> Donvinzk, i don't know but see gparted
[08:48] <Bergcube> aireson~  It is OS independant!  It works for all computers as long as it can boot from CD and as an intel (ish) CPU.
[08:48] <earthen> amphi, that explanes why i couls find it in gpaint
[08:49] <suseforge>  Donvinzk: Use Fdisk
[08:49] <earthen> couldn't
[08:49] <scapor> is composite + ATI fglrx driver possible ? I get a fucked up display if I try ...
[08:49] <aireson> Bergcube :D awesome
[08:49] <Dasnipa`> so wheres this updated package fixing the rshd exploit?
[08:49] <amphi> earthen: heh
[08:49] <trappist> scapor: yeah composite truly sucks with fglrx
[08:49] <Donvinzk> qtparted freeze each time I try to access my hda
[08:49] <scapor> trappist: no workarounds known ?
[08:49] <tanubis> dyrne: It's giving me a segmentation fault and aborting the program, after requesting a mozilla activex plugin
[08:49] <Bergcube> aireson~  Correct.  Now, go.  Download.  Burn.  Boot.  Wipe.  Best of luck!
[08:49] <amphi> earthen: I've never heard of gpaint
[08:49] <djp> bimberi, thanks
[08:49] <bimberi> djp: np :)
[08:50] <trappist> scapor: not that it matters - you can't have 3d acceleration and composite at the same time anyway
[08:50] <suseforge>  Donvinzk Try Fdisk
[08:50] <aireson> Bergcube and when its erased... will dos be back?
[08:50] <suseforge> as root run #fdisk
[08:50] <amphi> tanubis: mozilla activx is an oxymoron (or it better still be)
[08:50] <earthen> amphi, GnuPaint
[08:50] <trappist> amphi: it can be done with wine
[08:50] <amphi> earthen: I've always used gimp and imagemagick
[08:50] <scapor> trappist: ah .. I thought it waws possible with nvidia .. well anyway :)
[08:50] <tanubis> amphi: it wont install? There's a plugin for it that seems to download when I execute wine
[08:50] <amphi> trappist: oh, the horror! ;)
[08:50] <The_Login> hi
[08:50] <trappist> scapor: theoretically, but it doesn't actually work, even with nvidia
[08:50] <Al-Daja> you and the wine You must go to AA
[08:51] <amphi> tanubis: it seems my worst fears have been realised
[08:51] <trappist> amphi: yeah
[08:51] <Donvinzk> suseforge, I will not loose information with fdisk ?
[08:51] <Bergcube> aireson~  NOTHING will be there.  The disk will be factory fresk, and totally empty.  Empty as in "unformatted".  Nothing will remain.  NOTHING.  So hint:  Back up your files if you have anything to keep.
[08:51] <earthen> amphi, thanks I found it
[08:51] <amphi> trappist: oh, well, back to faithful w3m
[08:51] <tanubis> amphi: :P  I just want to be able to play a windows game...
[08:51] <setuid> tanubis: THen run Windows
[08:51] <The_Login> need the name of the package that load the modules automaticly when it detect new hardware
[08:51] <malt> is there a guide for vsftpd most places just show you the install command and how to restart it stop and start it
[08:51] <aireson> Bergcube ok good so i can easily install windows with no problem whatsoever ^.^
[08:51] <trappist> scapor: nvidia has a AllowGLXWithComposite option but that just prevents glx from deciding not to load if you do composite.  it will load the glx code but it doesn't actually work.  I've tried.  hard :)
[08:51] <malt> I need help with finding out how to add a ftp user to a certain directory
[08:51] <suseforge>  Donvinzk: you shouldnt lose it but I would suggest always back up your other partition first.
[08:51] <malt> in vsftpd
[08:52] <earthen> amphi, i am ferful of gimp because it is generally too powerfull for my needs
[08:52] <tanubis> setuid: It's such a pain to reboot, and many things emulate fine.  I have system resources to burn, so I don't mind sacrificing some to emulate if it actually works.
[08:52] <Bergcube> aireson~  But that is just one of many good and useful tools on the UBCD.  I use it all the time for finding faults and fixing problems in customer's computers.
[08:52] <Bergcube> aireson~  Yes, you can.
[08:52] <aireson> Bergcube you use a free software to help customers?
[08:52] <kyo> " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:52] <kyo> " <-- what is the command to exist the process?
[08:52] <djp> sorry bimberi, but is that reference you gave me the same for adsl modems that are not connected via an ethernet card? the modem in question is one of those provided by the isp (british telecom).
[08:53] <amphi> earthen: use whatever you like - I've always used gimp and imagemagick, and they have served me well
[08:53] <suseforge>  Donvinzk: I have never lost any info with it, but it has been years since i have resized a windows partition, if you are insecure with the command like i would suggest proprietary software such as partition magic 8.0 which i believe a trial package can be found for free online.
[08:53] <trappist> <3 imagemagick
[08:53] <amphi> djp: alcatel speedtouch 330 or summat?
[08:53] <GTX> How do I make it use my nvidia drivers in vmware?
[08:53] <bimberi> djp: i don't know sorry
[08:53] <trappist> GTX: you aren't going to get 3d acceleration inside vmware
[08:54] <Bergcube> aireson~  Yeah.  When it's that good I have no qualms whatsoever.  They want their problems solved and do not care what tools I solve it with.
[08:54] <aireson> earthen sometime you should take the time to learn about the more advanced art tools.. pretty soon youll think its as easy as paint
[08:54] <trappist> GTX: inside vmware, your videocard is a vmware video card, not your real one
[08:54] <earthen> amphi, I'd actully would like to know the gimp but it is a big ass program
[08:54] <aireson> amphi didnt gimp come with the ubuntu release?
[08:54] <GTX> trappist, so I wont be able to play games in it etc.. ?
[08:54] <earthen> aireson, I understand but time is the problem
[08:54] <aarkerio> hi!!      there is a tool on Ubuntu to configure the sound card?
[08:54] <trappist> earthen: my girlfriend poked around in the gimp for about an hour and now knows how to do everything she'd ever want to do to an image.
[08:54] <cas> what is the best suited kernel to use on amd64 in 32 bit mode? k7?
[08:54] <amphi> aireson: it does I believe
[08:55] <trappist> GTX: correct, for the most part
[08:55] <djp> amphi, yes i think that is the one
[08:55] <aireson> earthen is an hour-2 hours alot?
[08:55] <GTX> trappist, know anything which will play games well?
[08:55] <GTX> like counter strike source
[08:55] <earthen> trappist, can i have use of your girlfriend for an hour :)
[08:55] <aarkerio> nothing?
[08:55] <St_Iron> hello
[08:55] <vrspace4> halfelife2 runs so slow on ubuntu
[08:55] <earthen> aireson, it is for me
[08:55] <bina> hi, is it just my computer or have there not been many updates recently? I'm not complaining, I'm just wondering if theres something up with my comp
[08:55] <trappist> earthen: I was suggesting that you man up - that if my girlfriend can figure it out, you can too.
[08:56] <setuid> Anyone have a working dapper mirror?
[08:56] <kyo> " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <-- what is the command to kill the process?
[08:56] <amphi> djp: I got one of those working a while back, from a howto I found on the net; you need firmware
[08:56] <aireson> earthen listen, youll spend more time trying to find a decent program then learning how to use gimp
[08:56] <rcaskey_> anyone else here in dapper showing that they are running on battery power on a desktop machine?
[08:56] <earthen> trappist, I know what you were saying, i was making a joke
[08:56] <earthen> aireson, maybe you are right
[08:56] <bimberi> kyo: exit from Synaptic (if you're running it)
[08:56] <GTX> trappist, know anything which will play games well? like counter strike source
[08:57] <trappist> GTX: cedega
[08:57] <aireson> GTX depends on your system...
[08:57] <aireson> gtx oh nvm ._.
[08:57] <dyrne> vrspace4: sounds like you need to install 3d driver
[08:57] <kyo> bimberi, : I'm not running it
[08:58] <kyo> bimberi, :  I was updating something but I aborted ...
[08:58] <kyo> so .
[08:59] <naetrick> When I try to boot, I get: "mount: mounting /dev/root on /root failed: Device or resource busy"; "mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory";"mount /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory"
[08:59] <jbaloul> why doesn't copy/paste work in tsclient
[08:59] <ibob63> the synaptic repository never seems to have the lastest version of software that I want to use and ubuntu doesn't have the make command. Is there a third way?
[08:59] <naetrick> "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init". What does this mean, how can I fix it?
[08:59] <amphi> djp: this may be of use: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[08:59] <dyrne> ibob63: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:00] <Dasnipa`> ibob63, or install a compiler
[09:00] <bimberi> kyo: "sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock" and kill that process
[09:00] <Dasnipa`> ibob63, like g++, then the 'make' command will work
[09:00] <ibob63> Dasnipa: I was just going to ask what command to recommend... g++ it is then
[09:00] <ibob63> thanks
[09:01] <Dasnipa`> ibob63, its not that ubuntu doesnt have a 'make' command its that it doesnt come with a preinstalled compiler g++ is almost assuredly what you want
[09:01] <setuid> archive.ubuntu.com is S-O-O-O-O slow
[09:01] <setuid> 20k/sec.
[09:02] <_jason> setuid: use a mirror
[09:02] <setuid> _jason: there are no mirrors mirroring dapper
[09:02] <setuid> I just tried 20 of them
[09:02] <lucaaas> i dont get this, is there a flight-4 cd yet? :o
[09:02] <Dasnipa`> why are you still running daper?
[09:02] <bimberi> lucaaas: no
[09:02] <earthen> aireson, amphi, thank for the help guys
[09:02] <setuid> Dasnipa`: "still"? Its not even out yet.
[09:02] <setuid> Dasnipa`: Its due in April
[09:02] <amphi> earthen: pleasure
[09:02] <ompaul> !dapper
[09:02] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable so please help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[09:02] <Dasnipa`> well yeah developers release
[09:03] <Dasnipa`> i know
[09:03] <liv> hi
[09:03] <suseforge> Bob: you can run a command line in ubuntu...you must add a root terminal or use "sudo" and then use apt-get for your packages
[09:03] <kyo> !ff1.5
[09:03] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:03] <lucaaas> bimberi, ah, thanks, i have been looking for it lots, that clarifies it
[09:03] <aarkerio> dapper rules!!
[09:03] <ompaul> suseforge, please do not advocate the use of root
[09:03] <setuid> Dasnipa`: because Breezy and Warty and Hoary are about 6 months behind current packages (upstream packages, like udev)
[09:03] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[09:03] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <naetrick> anyone?
[09:03] <liv> hi does any 1 go to Trivillage\
[09:03] <Dasnipa`> setuid, true.
[09:04] <Florob> suseforge: also don't advocate apt-get ;) aptitude is recommend now
[09:04] <bimberi> lucaaas: np :) the wiki page is there, so it might be iminent - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[09:04] <suseforge> Florob: Sorry set in my ways =)
[09:04] <lucaaas> yes, and it features a broken download link
[09:04] <liv> hello
[09:04] <setuid> Dasnipa`: So where are some mirrors?
[09:04] <aarkerio> apt-get is better than aptitude
[09:04] <naetrick> heck yes
[09:05] <comforteagle> I'm trying to build perl from source but it says that I need a working cc compiler... /usr/bin/cc is sitting right there. any suggestions?
[09:05] <Florob> aarkerio: why?
[09:05] <lucaaas> aarkerio, apt-get has super moo powers, apitude hasnt :)
[09:05] <naetrick> Can someone tell me how to fix this problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[09:05] <_jason> comforteagle: install build-essential
[09:05] <liv> Hello
[09:05] <GTX> how do I install a .deb?
[09:05] <comforteagle> _jason I did
[09:05] <_jason> !deb
[09:05] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:05] <skazi> Hello....Is there anyway to add the gDesklets as I login to the system?
[09:05] <trappist> <3 ubotu
[09:05] <aarkerio> Florob: apt-get doesnt install ALL the suggested packages
[09:05] <aarkerio> lucaaas: yea ;-)
[09:06] <aireson> Bergcube problem
[09:06] <Howitzer> silly question here
[09:06] <GTX> trappist, how do I install a .deb?
[09:06] <Howitzer> i have a .py script, how dio execute it
[09:06] <Bergcube> aireson~  ?  Do tell.
[09:06] <aireson> Bergcube like my windows cd, i put it in, and all it does is stay at a flashing cursor
[09:06] <trappist> aarkerio: who exactly recommends aptitude over apt-get?
[09:06] <Howitzer> GTX
[09:06] <aarkerio> dpkg -i package.deb
[09:06] <_jason> GTX: scroll up about 10 lines
[09:06] <Howitzer> dpkg -i
[09:06] <bimberi> Howitzer: python script.py
[09:06] <GTX> k
[09:06] <trappist> GTX: ubotu answered that question
[09:06] <Howitzer> ty bimberi
[09:06] <amphi> naetrick: have you fsckup up your /etc/fstab ?
[09:06] <bimberi> Howitzer: np :)
[09:06] <Howitzer> curious to see if my MP3 script works xD
[09:07] <aarkerio> I, and my nine years  as server administrator
[09:07] <aireson> Bergcube a flashing underscore
[09:07] <skazi> Hello....Is there anyway to add the gDesklets as I login to the system?
[09:07] <naetrick> amphi: Didn't change it...
[09:07] <Bergcube> aireson~  Have you set your BIOS to let the computer boot from CD?  Was there a message like "Press any key now to boot from CD" ?
[09:07] <Howitzer> made this commandline mpg123 script that makes me able to play entire directories
[09:07] <naetrick> skazi: What WM do you use?
[09:07] <_jason> skazi: system > prefs > startup
[09:07] <naetrick> There we have it :)
[09:07] <aireson> Bergcube no
[09:07] <skazi> WM ?
[09:07] <General> Hi All. Just lurking a bit:-)
[09:07] <omerix> is there any barcode program for gnome
[09:07] <omerix> ?
[09:07] <Howitzer> KDE? Gnome?
[09:07] <naetrick> Windown Manager (fluxbox, gnome, kde, blackbox, etc)
[09:07] <Florob> aarkerio: but I think you can configure aptitude to not do this either. And it has enough features that apt-get has not to justify using it.
[09:07] <skazi> Gnome
[09:07] <liv> hey jason wanna chat
[09:08] <skazi> Gnome > *
[09:08] <Bergcube> aireson~  No to both?  Or just the last one?  If so, check the BIOS settings.
[09:08] <dyrne> xfce
[09:08] <LeeJunFan> is anyone going to fix us.archive.ubuntu.com anytime soon? It's way behind on updates. still has 2.6.12-10.26 for breezy, should be .28
[09:08] <aarkerio> Florob: as you wish, is a personal choice
[09:08] <skazi> Hrmm..there is no startup in
[09:08] <skazi> _jason skazi: s
[09:08] <aireson> Bergcube i never set the bios yet
[09:08] <naetrick> amphi: fstab is all good
[09:09] <skazi> system > prefs > s
[09:09] <liv> Hello
[09:09] <_jason> skazi: sorry, i forgot a step, system prefs session startup
[09:09] <amphi> naetrick: some udev madness?
[09:09] <skazi> Oh :O Ok. thanks
[09:09] <naetrick> amphi: Didn't change anything with it...
[09:09] <liv> hey jason wanna chat
[09:09] <omerix> howitzer:gnome
[09:09] <naetrick>  liv: *cough*
[09:09] <omerix> Howitzer:gnome
[09:09] <Bergcube> aireson~  Then I guess that might be it...
[09:09] <_jason> liv: ?
[09:09] <ompaul> amphi, udev with usb reboot (ooch but then sometimes that is the only way)
[09:09] <naetrick> amphi: I'm installing a custom kernel, by the way
[09:09] <aireson> Bergcube ok im in bios, what should i do?
[09:09] <Florob> aarkerio: as is sudo vs. root, but I think one should recommend the distributors recomandation to newbies...
[09:10] <ompaul> Florob, that was me shouting down someone on that subject - and it was not aarkerio
[09:10] <Bergcube> aireson~  That depends on the layout of the BIOS.  Find the entry for "boot order" or similar.  And put your CD drive first in the list.
[09:10] <suseforge> Aireson: Find your boot sequence and set your cd/dvd drive as number 1
[09:10] <amphi> ompaul: I'm still back with static dev
[09:10] <Frederick> hi folks
[09:11] <Frederick> is ubuntu already shippping with gcc 4?
[09:11] <aireson> Bergcube there is none of that.... this is one of the problems i had with crimsun, its called "easy setup"
[09:11] <ompaul> amphi, 2.4 kernel .....
[09:11] <aarkerio> Florob: yes, but the newbies should know what we, the experimented users recommend
[09:11] <ompaul> Frederick, yep but the kernel is 3.4x
[09:12] <amphi> aarkerio: 'experimented'? speak for yourself ;)
[09:12] <|bolera_net|> ola
[09:12] <Bergcube> aireson~  Then I only have two suggestions...  Read up on it.  Or talk with someone face to face that knows about these things...  Sorry.
[09:13] <suseforge> Aireson if you send me a private message over IRC i will help you.
[09:13] <skazi> Ok, I have a problem with adding the DNS ip's in the system-->admin-->networking, there is some problem beause the default on my dsl modem is 10.0.0.138, now where the dns after i change it to the real ISP DNS (2 ip's) after like 5-10 min it changed back automaticly to 10.0.0.138...I don't know what to do next...(I tryed changing /etc/resolv.conf too)?
[09:13] <trappist> skazi: when your dhcp lease renews it clobbers all that stuff
[09:14] <richie_> hi
[09:14] <skazi> hmm...so what do I need to do..couse i can't connect nowhere without the isp's dns's
[09:14] <amphi> skazi: you can fix resolv.conf and make it immutable ;)
[09:14] <fortran01> any suggestions on a bittorrent command line client for ubuntu?
[09:14] <skazi> How..? :/
[09:14] <amphi> skazi: chattr
[09:14] <dell500> fortran01, i think it already comes with it in command line
[09:14] <erice> hello all! Sorry for this simple question. I have a question; i've been looking for an option to desactivate HTMl in evolution  and I couldn't find it; anyone knows how? Thank you
[09:14] <trappist> skazi: dhcp should be giving you the correct dns information - maybe you have a rogue dhcp server on your network screwing you up?
[09:14] <trappist> fortran01: btdownloadcurses
[09:15] <richie_> hear about pele's son
[09:15] <fortran01> trappist: can i get it from ubuntu repo?
[09:15] <skazi> I have no idia..I just know it says there search: lan, and dns ip is 10.0.0.138.
[09:15] <thingy> skazi, "man interfaces", then edit /etc/network/interfaces and change your "iface eth0 inet dhcp" to a "iface eth0 inet static" and fill in the key bits like gateway/broadcast/subnet mask etc.
[09:15] <skazi> never happened on linux..
[09:15] <trappist> fortran01: it's part of the bittorrent package.  you probably already have it.
[09:15] <skazi> allright.
[09:15] <skazi> Thanks
[09:16] <amphi> skazi: or maybe you can edit your dhclient config not to update dns info via dhcp
[09:16] <omerix> is there any barcode program for gnome
[09:16] <richie_> hi
[09:16] <skazi> ok i'll try all this
[09:16] <amphi> skazi: that will let you use dhcp without it clobbering your resolv.conf
[09:17] <richie_> what version of linux has every1 got here??
[09:17] <thingy> richie_, Windows XP.
[09:17] <richie_> lol
[09:17] <skazi> Do i use it threw Chattr?
[09:17] <fortran01> thanks trappist
[09:17] <richie_> i sed linux
[09:17] <aireson> i hate being computer illiterate :( tbis sucks
[09:17] <fortran01> thanks dell500
[09:17] <boazy> richie_ : ubuntu 5.10
[09:17] <richie_> kk
[09:18] <skazi> Where exactly is the dhclient config?
[09:18] <richie_> how do i get rid of evolution email client program
[09:18] <Seveas> skazi, /etc/dhclient3/dhclient.conf iirc
[09:18] <ompaul> aireson, so don't just consider it being the bottom of a hill there is some way to go but hey you will get there (every journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step etc)
[09:18] <Seveas> richie_, apt-get remove --purge evolution
[09:18] <skazi> ok
[09:19] <ibob63> When installing a piece of software with the make and install command. Will it automatically put the software in the right place rather than in the location of the downloaded files?
[09:19] <thingy> ompaul, every journey of a thousand miles begins with a trip to the bathroom.
[09:19] <erice> richie wgy? I have a question about evolution;  I guess you can get rid of it througt apt
[09:19] <kyo> uh, guys
[09:19] <mkrufky> im trying to set up apache2 using php to access a mssql database, and i get this error: Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mssql_connect() --  all resources tell me that i must recompile php with freetds support, but I was under the impresseion that Ubuntu Just Works (tm) ...  I already have dev-freetds and sqlrelay-freetds packages installed
[09:19] <erice> my question is that I don't find where to desactivate html on evolution
[09:19] <amphi> ibob63: by default, make install will usually install under /usr/lcoal
[09:19] <richie_> kk
[09:19] <richie_> cheers
[09:19] <kyo> how do I kill the background procesing ... can't access synaptic because get-apt is still running
[09:19] <mkrufky> what is my next step?
[09:19] <_jason> Ubugtu: tell mkrufky about lamp
[09:20] <_jason> pfft
[09:20] <skazi> skazi@ubuntu:~$ cd /etc/dhclient3/
[09:20] <skazi> bash: cd: /etc/dhclient3/: No such file or directory
[09:20] <skazi> skazi@ubuntu:~$
[09:20] <amphi> ibob63: you can do make -n install to see what it would do
[09:20] <dyrne> kyo: killall whatever
[09:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell mkrufky about lamp
[09:20] <richie_> do i defrag hard drives in windows or linux
[09:20] <ibob63> amphi: thanks . I was worried that I was installing files all over the place :)
[09:20] <richie_> i cant see this partition in windows
[09:20] <amphi> kyo: you don't want to kill apt-get
[09:20] <erice> kyo  ps -le | grep apt
[09:20] <mkrufky> _jason: thanx
[09:20] <janno> Is there some freeware macro for linux? Wich will record click and play them again and again
[09:20] <amphi> ibob63: you can specify --prefix to configure
[09:20] <erice> then kill it
[09:21] <ompaul> erice, edit - preferences - html mail
[09:21] <_jason> janno: try xmacroplay
[09:21] <naetrick> What might cause this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[09:21] <adriyel> crimsun, having surround sound problems, can you help me out?
[09:21] <amphi> ibob63: it may install 'over the place' nonetheless, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/share/foo etc. depending
[09:21] <shrike_00> kyo: whatever you do dont listen to dyrne
[09:21] <erice> freeware macro for linux????
[09:21] <_jason> janno: package name is 'xmacro'
[09:21] <janno> ok i will try
[09:22] <ompaul> erice, what?
[09:22] <richie_> dfd
[09:22] <richie_> asf
[09:22] <naetrick> Anyone?
[09:22] <thingy> naetrick, did you setup grub/lilo yourself?
[09:22] <dyrne> shrike_00: remember i still have ssh access to your computer
[09:22] <naetrick> thingy: Yes I did
[09:22] <erice> don't know what that mean
[09:22] <TecnoVM64> People, I have a big problem, after a fresh install (and installing the nvidia driver) xorg crashes randomly and won't let me do anything :(, any ideas?
[09:22] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi alll
[09:22] <thingy> naetrick, well you made a mistake in the process then!
[09:22] <Rawplayer> TecnoVM64: what does output say
[09:22] <naetrick> thingy: Well, I edited it from the default created
[09:22] <ompaul> erice, erice freeware macro for linux???? <- what was that?
[09:22] <naetrick> would you like me to paste it on rafb?
[09:23] <TecnoVM64> Rawplayer, what output?
[09:23] <thingy> naetrick, paste the conf for it and priv. msg the url
[09:23] <janno> no package like that :S
[09:23] <Exxcaliber> is there an easy way to make a tail on the syslog of tty12?
[09:23] <Aragorn_Guardian> i wanna know how can i make some 1722 floppies, since has no /dev/fd01722...
[09:23] <Exxcaliber> on tty12*
[09:23] <erice> ompaul idon't understand what he refers as freeware macro
[09:23] <Aragorn_Guardian> !floppy
[09:23] <aireson> Bergcube i dont think there is any fix for this
[09:23] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:23] <thingy> naetrick, also, let me know what your partition layout is
[09:23] <shrike_00> dyrne: nope i booted you out like the noob you are
[09:23] <nuxil> is mplayer compiled without v4l2 support
[09:23] <ompaul> Arafangion, they will all be done on /dev/fd0 one at a time
[09:24] <naetrick> thingy: hda3 == root (XFS), hda2 == NTFS, hda1 == FAT32
[09:24] <linkd> anyone know if you can change the default sound device. i have standard speakers and a set of USB speakers and by default it seems that they go for the desktop speakers rather than the USB ones. i want to change that for a time
[09:24] <suseforge> Aireson: older computers bios systems sometimes will not allow you to boot from your cd/dvd drive. Do you know what bios your using i.e. phoenix? etc...
[09:24] <mkrufky> _jason: sorry... LAMP is the wrong answer --- I need to use MSSQL
[09:24] <naetrick> thingy: BTW, LinuxOLD boots fine
[09:24] <mikesh> hi
[09:24] <mkrufky> _jason: FREETDS should do the job, but it isnt working
[09:24] <thingy> naetrick, pls post in the priv msg...allows me to keep track then and refer back to the info
[09:25] <naetrick> thingy: Sure
[09:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> so ubuntu dont has support for different /dev/fd???
[09:25] <suseforge> Aireson: if this is the case you will need to make a boot disk for your floppy drive
[09:25] <naetrick> thingy: But please post messages to me in here
[09:25] <Bergcube> aireson~  There is ALWAYS a fix.  For everything.  If absolutely everything else fails you can always remove the hard-drive, mount it as slave in another computer and format it there.  Then you can copy the entire install CD, onto the drive, put it back into your computer, boot from floppy and install Windows from HD to HD.  But of course, this demands you know what you're doing.
[09:25] <BxL> !source-o-matic
[09:25] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:25] <skazi> thingy, 10.0.0.138 is the dsl modem..i can connect to it threw mozila, and it's in the dns list....
[09:25] <catchphrase> mm, when i try: touch .cshrc ; i get permission denied. anyway to fix this, or a place to dump my alias commands?
[09:25] <mikesh> how can i start a console in ubuntu 5.10?
[09:25] <catchphrase> mikesh- applications, accessories, terminal
[09:26] <mikesh> thx ;)
[09:26] <aireson> Bergcube i live in a town with like 100 people. no "computer smart persons" there is no way for me to get help if i cant get it here
[09:26] <thingy> skazi, can you do a "ps axl | grep dhcp" and tell me of you have dhcpd running
[09:26] <ompaul> mikesh, ctrl+alt+f1-6 will also give you a terminal and if you do ctrl+alt+f7 you will end up back in X
[09:26] <richie_> i think ubuntu is much more noobie friendlier than the rest of the linux distros
[09:26] <k31th> yo ompaul
[09:26] <adriyel> richie_: uhhh, yeah.
[09:26] <ompaul> k31th, hello
[09:27] <catchphrase> ompaul, cool thanks. didn't know that one.
[09:27] <ompaul> catchphrase, np
[09:27] <adriyel>         -    
[09:27] <suseforge> Aireson: I would suggest you start here and read up on boot disks i have had this problem with an older pc, dont get frustrated it wont help, reach out to the community after you read up http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
[09:27] <nuxil> guys is mplayer compiled without v4l2 support
[09:27] <skazi> thingy,
[09:27] <skazi> skazi@ubuntu:~$ ps axl | grep dhcp
[09:27] <skazi> 0  1000 10191     1  15   0  24584 15024 -      S    ?          0:01 gedit file:///etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script
[09:27] <skazi> 0  1000 10221 10210  16   0   3064   756 pipe_w S+   pts/0      0:00 grep dhcp
[09:27] <skazi> skazi@ubuntu:~$
[09:28] <naetrick> thingy: So what do you think?
[09:28] <Bergcube> aireson~  I see.  And I do in fact feel sorry for you.  I suspect I could solve this for you over a cup of tea and an afternoon's effort.  But of course geography keeps that from being an option.  Do you know if your computer can / will boot from a memory stick?
[09:28] <piggah> I'm having trouble getting my ati drivers to work. I'm to the point were i need to run "aticonfig", however I'm unable to run it. The drivers installed, so I don't know why i can't configure them. is there something else i need to do? =\
[09:29] <richie_> does linux acpi=off mean that the power management is turned off during installation??
[09:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i format floppies using /dev/fd01722...
[09:29] <aireson> Bergcube i doubt it will
[09:29] <thingy> skazi, it appears that you aren't running dhcpd...can you check your /etc/network/interfaces  file and tell me if it says "iface eth0 inet dhcp" or static
[09:29] <ompaul> !tell richie_ about BootOptions
[09:29] <ilba7r> piggah, did you compile the drivers yourself
[09:29] <Bergcube> aireson~  I think I'm beginning to hate your computer.  Does it by any chance have a sticker that says "compaq" on it?  :-P
[09:29] <piggah> ilba7r, no i got them off of ati's website
[09:29] <skazi> Yes i saw it..it said dhcp
[09:29] <suseforge> LOL
[09:30] <aireson> Bergcube what i dont get is how i can get to the more advanced bios, the only thing you can change in 'easy setup' is the lights, sounds and thats it
[09:30] <skazi> # The primary network interface
[09:30] <ilba7r> piggah, how did you install the drivers? just ran the config scripts of ati
[09:30] <skazi> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:30] <skazi> auto eth0
[09:30] <naetrick> thingy: By the messages, it seems to me it can't see the XFS partition, even though I get a message acknowledging it
[09:30] <aireson> Bergcube nope its a shitty thinkpad
[09:30] <ilba7r> !tell piggah about ati
[09:30] <ompaul> richie_, read the message from the bot
[09:30] <piggah> ilba7r, yes, i just ran the .run file as their instructions said to
[09:30] <naetrick> I have the "root=/dev/hda3" in there... should I add it in "append=""", also?
[09:30] <Bergcube> aireson~  Have you tried googling for tech.refs on it?
[09:30] <thingy> naetrick, did you recently complie a new kernel?
[09:31] <ilba7r> piggah, the link ubotu sent you has a nice how to
[09:31] <naetrick> thingy: Yes :)
[09:31] <thingy> naetrick, or did you modify the conf file recently?
[09:31] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, evening
[09:31] <naetrick> the old kernel is the default, I'm trying to boot from the custom kernel
[09:31] <thingy> naetrick, uhh did you build XFS into the kernel?
[09:31] <aireson> Bergcube yes and i even tried the official site i couldnt find a thing
[09:31] <naetrick> thingy: Yes
[09:31] <piggah> ilba7r, ah ok, ill check it out. thanks
[09:31] <naetrick> well, as a module, but it loads it fine before this message occurs
[09:31] <ilba7r> piggah, also can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for me to check it. use the pastebin
[09:32] <thingy> naetrick, hmm so you can boot from the default kernel fine...but not your new kernel#
[09:32] <piggah> ilba7r, eh, how do i use pastebin? :p
[09:32] <thingy> naetrick, ?
[09:32] <naetrick> It says "xfs: per=cpu alignment 32 > 16;SGI XFS with ACL's, security aattributes, realtime, no debug";"SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem"
[09:32] <naetrick> And then, after that, those errors
[09:32] <ilba7r> !tell piggah about pastebin
[09:33] <DUMAiSO> how do I mount a reiserfs partition to be able to write on it?
[09:33] <ilba7r> piggah, look at uotu pm
[09:33] <piggah> ok, doing it now
[09:33] <suseforge> Aireson: you may have not burned a clean .iso image. Did you burn it with M$ software?
[09:33] <DUMAiSO> !mount
[09:33] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:33] <naetrick> thingy: Correct
[09:33] <mike-e> what's the correct crontab numbers for running a process every hour?
[09:33] <thingy> skazi, well then you are setup to use dhcp...and i dont know why that process is not up and running...in any case...save yourself the hassle and setup a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, i'll post my conf as an example...and then modify resolv.conf
[09:33] <mike-e> what's the correct crontab numbers for running a process every hour of every day?
[09:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> !makedev
[09:33] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aragorn_Guardian
[09:34] <Bergcube> aireson~  Well.........   I am running out of options.  Thinkpads I've messed with use <F10> to access BIOS.  I have never heard about it, but perhaps there are two "versions" or levels of setup you can get to.
[09:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> !mkdev
[09:34] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aragorn_Guardian
[09:34] <Bergcube> aireson~  I recently stumbled across a thinkpad owner / user web-furom.  Let me see if I can find it again.  You could probably find something unseful there.
[09:34] <Bergcube> BRB!
[09:34] <naetrick> thingy: So what should I do?
[09:34] <cafuego> wat?
[09:34] <skazi> ok..But just for you to know....I connect threw the network automaticly I mean it's connected to the internet..it gets a ip automaticly and all that.
[09:35] <olicat> does anyone here have experience using ubuntu with apple hardware? mainly their keyboard
[09:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i make devices (makedev) ????
[09:35] <slipaway172> this is cool, im using irc through azureus
[09:35] <ompaul> Aragorn_Guardian, what version of Ubuntu are you using? 5.10?
[09:35] <piggah> ilba7r, ok, i've posted it
[09:35] <cafuego> Aragorn_Guardian: mknod
[09:35] <ilba7r> piggah, give me the link
[09:35] <dyrne> slipaway172: 190 mb ram irc client.  heh :)
[09:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> 5.04
[09:35] <piggah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8606
[09:36] <Bergcube> aireson~  http://forum.thinkpads.com/  GOOD LUCK!
[09:36] <ompaul> Arafangion, as per cafuego but I would update to 5.10 if I was in your shoes, the reason is that devfs is dead and udev rocks 99.09997 of the time
[09:36] <rouven> Hi everybody. Why do i get non anti-aliased fonts in Gnome when i switch to a KDE session and then back to Gnome? Am how do i revert that?
[09:36] <as_284> hello
[09:37] <ompaul> Arafangion, udev should create the device automagically when needed - it is rather cool
[09:37] <ilba7r> piggah, look at the section "Device" and change the driver from ati to fglrx
[09:37] <as_284>  does anyone know how to export the mails and contacts from KMAIL to EVOLUTION?
[09:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> cafuego:  the syntax, i dont understand the man... :(
[09:38] <Bergcube> rouven~  I remember that was discussed on the ubuntu-user mailinglist.  But as I don't use KDE I didn't pay attention.  Look in the list archieve, I believe your answer's there.
[09:38] <rouven> Bergcube: thanks, i'll take a look.
[09:39] <piggah> ilbra7r, ok, ive done that, anything else need done?
[09:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> cafuego:  will be mknod b 2 0 ????
[09:39] <ilba7r> piggah, just logout of the session and login again
[09:39] <ilba7r> start your x server
[09:39] <piggah> ok, ill try now
[09:40] <piggah> just restart x then?
[09:40] <ilba7r> piggah, and to check type fglrxinfo
[09:40] <piggah> alright
[09:40] <thingy> naetrick, you didnt respond to the priv msgs
[09:40] <thingy> naetrick, you still there?
[09:41] <mike-e> HI this is a crontab i have set for every day at 1300 but i need the crontab to initiate the command every hour: 0  13  *  1-12  1-7 ./ircstats ~/eggdrop/logs/chicagochat.log ircstats.cfg - how would I go about making it run the command every hour?
[09:41] <jawbrkr> what is the javahome directory with blackdown? that's what ubuntu uses by dafault, right?
[09:41] <amphi> mike-e: man 5 crontab
[09:42] <aireson> -_-
[09:42] <aridese> hey guys, when i try to run quake 4 it crashes when its loading a level: line 6: 10960 Killed                  ./quake4.x86 $*
[09:42] <rouven> Bergcube: Do you remember when this issue was discussed on ubuntu-users?
[09:42] <aridese> what could be the problem?
[09:42] <aireson> Bergcube im tossing the laptop, i cant find anything -_-
[09:42] <breezy_dapper> u mean we can run windows programs on linux??
[09:42] <suseforge> aireson: Make a boot disk, It'll work!
[09:43] <aridese> breezy_dapper, it's a ported  version by iD
[09:43] <breezy_dapper> kk sorry for being so stupid
[09:43] <aridese> heh, just uninformed
[09:43] <aireson> suseforge my cd wont work
[09:43] <breezy_dapper> kk
[09:44] <Bergcube> rouven~  Hmmm...  No.  Well, partly.  It was this year.  Not much of a help I'm afraid.....
[09:44] <Knowerrors> how do I edit fstab to include a new drive I just installed?
[09:44] <Knowerrors> I tried adding this line "/dev/hdb3 /mnt/hdb3 reiserfs noauto,users,exec 0 0"
[09:45] <Knowerrors> then did sudo mount /dev/hdb3
[09:45] <Bergcube> aireson~  That's sad.  I'd recommend you hang on to it.  My guess is there must be SOME Linux user group or similar within reach by car from where you're at.
[09:45] <mike-e> amphi: ok cool, will this work for the first minute of every hour of every day: 1  1-24  *  1-12  1-7
[09:45] <Snak1> why does the package manager not  work?
[09:45] <Knowerrors> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[09:45] <Knowerrors> mount: mount point /mnt/hdb3 does not exist
[09:45] <suseforge> Aireson: Do you have a 3.5 inch floppy dirve?
[09:45] <dyrne> Knowerrors: mkdir /mnt/hdb3 then try sudo mount -a
[09:45] <piggah> ilba7r, well, that just screwed up my screen res. and when i use fglrxinfo i dont receive anything.
[09:45] <amphi> mike-e: you could just have *s for all but the first field
[09:45] <aireson> suseforge yes i do... but once my drive is formatted. how do i install windows
[09:46] <mike-e> oh ok
[09:46] <mike-e> thanks
[09:46] <aireson> suseforge my cds being an ass
[09:46] <Scarborough> how do I register for gmail
[09:46] <suseforge> is windows already on your pc?
[09:46] <amphi> aireson: it doesn't work, or you can't boot from it?
[09:46] <DUMAiSO> I mount a reiserfs partition successfully, but I can't write on it. What should I do?
[09:47] <ilba7r> piggah it is easy to change it back to ati
[09:47] <piggah> ill change it back
[09:47] <ilba7r> piggah follow the howto for proper installation
[09:47] <Knowerrors> dyrne: I still get "[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab"
[09:47] <catchphrase> "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)... any ideas?
[09:48] <suseforge> Aireson if so...there are are several ways you can go about booting from the 3.5 inch. I would also recommend that you verify that the .iso images was burned properly, this can cause this sort of problem quit often
[09:48] <amphi> catchphrase: you compiled your own kernel?
[09:48] <Celina> Hi everyone.. everytime I run apt-get in a terminal I get these errors http://pastebin.com/553217 any ideas on how to fix em?
[09:48] <mkrufky> catchphrase: it means that your kernel is not compiled with in-kernel support for your root filesystem
[09:48] <m_tadeu> how can i connect to my webcam?
[09:48] <dyrne> Knowerrors: /dev/hdb1       /mnt/temp       ext3    defaults        0       0
[09:48] <mkrufky> catchphrase: do not compile filesystem support for your root fs as a module
[09:48] <catchphrase> amphi, i'm not sure. i tried to install nvidia drivers as per these directions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 (Method 1)
[09:48] <dyrne> Knowerrors: thats an example from my fstab only diff should be reiser i would think
[09:49] <Knowerrors> and hdb3
[09:49] <trappist> Celina: the error message ends with instructions on how to correct it.
[09:49] <dyrne> Knowerrors: well yah. so its completely different :)
[09:49] <Celina> .... omg... I didn't even see that ><
[09:49] <Celina> thank you
[09:49] <mike-e> hmm does crontab use the local time as a timer?
[09:49] <mike-e> my crontab  didn't work
[09:50] <amphi> mike-e: yeah, it uses the system clcok
[09:50] <amphi> er, clock
[09:50] <aireson> suseforge then tell me how to burn the iso... i mounted it in fireburner and thats it
[09:50] <Celina> trappist, thank you
[09:50] <suseforge> Aireson are you running windows?
[09:50] <aireson> suseforge linux
[09:50] <skazii> lol
[09:50] <Knowerrors> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab mount: /dev/hdb3 already mounted or /mnt/temp busy
[09:50] <aireson> suseforge i want windows back on my cd
[09:51] <aireson> suseforge er hard drive
[09:51] <skazii> i don't want to hear this word here..."windows"
[09:51] <mike-e> amphi: at 12:46 i implemented this crontab: 48  *  *  *  * ./ircstats ~/eggdrop/logs/chicagochat.log ircstats.cfg and it did not work, the cron file sits in the directory of the executable i need to run hourly, does that look right?
[09:51] <suseforge> Aireson: burn it with nautilus in gnome by right clicking on it...............or K3b the same way in the kde desktop
[09:52] <anavim> is there an ubuntu wiki page yet for macbooks?
[09:52] <Steve_p> mike-e, no, you should use a fully qualified path to ircstats
[09:52] <amphi> mike-e: you edit your crontab with crontab -e
[09:52] <kootaphor> hey, am trying to rip a cd w/sound juicer -- it's returning a "Sound Juicer could not extract this CD, Reason:File not found." Help?
[09:52] <amphi> mike-e: you need to specify full paths to files
[09:52] <suseforge> Aireson: thats a pickle...you can still use a boot disk..
[09:52] <mike-e> what's the syntax to execute a file using the full path? i tried ./home/bsd/public_html/chicagochat/etc
[09:52] <anavim> on any official announcement for when macbooks will be supported?
[09:53] <catchphrase> amphi, mkrufky- do i have to nuke it and reinstall the whole thing?
[09:53] <aireson> suseforge talk to me in private message
[09:53] <suseforge> Aireson: I really cant help you if this is a windows issue. I am not too familiar with anything there after NT or W2k
[09:53] <aireson> no suseforge
[09:53] <Amaranth> mike-e: no .
[09:53] <amphi> catchphrase: do you not have your install kernel anymore?
[09:53] <aireson> im trying to find a way to format linux
[09:53] <Amaranth> anavim: dapper+1 or later
[09:53] <breezy_dapper> does any1 here no of a site for ubuntu theme desktops??
[09:53] <suseforge> i thought the whole time you were running windows wanting to get Ubuntu installed
[09:53] <aireson> i have ubuntu on my laptop right now and its giving me stupid problems
[09:53] <amphi> mike-e: ./ means current working directory
[09:53] <mike-e> Amaranth what would the syntax be?
[09:54] <mike-e> oh
[09:54] <Amaranth> anavim: so 8 to 14 months from now
[09:54] <anavim> Amaranth: ok
[09:54] <Amaranth> mike-e: /path/to/executable
[09:54] <anavim> Amaranth: that's what I thought
[09:54] <Steve_p> mike-e, go to the directory with the file you want and type pwd
[09:54] <catchphrase> amphi, i'm really not sure. all i've done is fresh installed off the CD, done the software updates, enabled universe repositories and downloaded more updates..
[09:54] <amphi> mike-e: a full qualified path starts from / the filesystem root
[09:54] <Steve_p> That will give you the directory
[09:54] <catchphrase> and then attempt to install the nvidia drivers with a lot of commands i'm not familiar with.
[09:54] <thingy> mike-e, is it a script? if so then . /path/to/script else /path/to/bin or if bin in current dir then ./bin
[09:55] <Amaranth> !info xorg-driver-nvidia
[09:55] <Amaranth> hmm
[09:56] <kootaphor> hey, am trying to rip a cd w/sound juicer -- it's returning a "Sound Juicer could not extract this CD, Reason:File not found." Help?
[09:56] <trappist> Amaranth: there probably *should* be such a package
[09:56] <manuelinux> :)
[09:56] <manuelinux> hi
[09:56] <Amaranth> trappist: there is, just without that name
[09:56] <Amaranth> !find nvidia
[09:57] <trappist> kootaphor: 14:52 <amphi> mike-e: you need to specify full paths to files
[09:57] <trappist> Amaranth: I thought it was nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-glx
[09:57] <Amaranth> !info nvidia-glx
[09:57] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10036 kB
[09:57] <ibob63> I am trying to compile asterisk but the debug keeps saying that the gcc compiler doesn't work. It there an easy wasy to check that it does or debug it?
[09:57] <Amaranth> trappist: needs a rename :)
[09:58] <manuelinux> how i can find a 2.6.15 kernel in dapper repository?
[09:58] <trappist> that's what I meant about there should be such a package :)
[09:58] <mkrufky> catchphrase: that's a yes
[09:58] <trappist> manuelinux: that's all there is in dapper
[09:58] <as_284> does anyone know how to go from maildir to mbox files?
[09:58] <Amaranth> manuelinux: if you're using dapper you should be using a 2.6.15 kernel
[09:58] <mkrufky> catchphrase: but I think the Ubuntu guys frown on users compiling their own kernels
[09:58] <manuelinux> no im using a breezy
[09:58] <kootaphor> aha wait..i have an idea--and this brings up another question--is there an easy way to find out the "text" name of an app in ubuntu? like, if i wanted to run it from a console or "run dialog?"
[09:58] <mkrufky> catchphrase: but that never stopped me
[09:58] <Amaranth> mkrufky: You're totally on your own if you compile your own.
[09:58] <catchphrase> mkrufky, heh completely unintended. had no idea i was compiling a kernel to begin with, tbh.
[09:59] <Amaranth> manuelinux: The dapper kernels _will NOT_ work on breezy.
[09:59] <trappist> as_284: compile this: http://www.firstpr.com.au/web-mail/RH71-Postfix-Courier-Maildrop-IMAP/maildir2mbox.c
[09:59] <mkrufky> Amaranth: i'm a kernel developer... i am going to compile my own kernel every day
[09:59] <catchphrase> need to find better instructions on installing legacy-nvidia drivers.
[09:59] <manuelinux> Amaranth, ok thanks
[09:59] <dyrne> kootaphor: i normally use apropos "apropos burn" etc
[09:59] <manuelinux> :)
[09:59] <catchphrase> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 - the main page one, Method 1, screwed me over.
[09:59] <Amaranth> manuelinux: You could always dist-upgrade if you like playing with bleeding-edge stuff. :)
[10:00] <trappist> kootaphor: dpkg -L packagename | grep bin/
[10:00] <mkane12> can anybody help me out, to set up a dual boot system??
[10:00] <breezy_dapper> try me
[10:00] <catchphrase> 4th reinstall by day 2... exciting times.
[10:00] <Amaranth> catchphrase: method 1 wouldn't break your system
[10:00] <breezy_dapper> mkanel
[10:00] <manuelinux> Amaranth,  :) thanks
[10:00] <Amaranth> catchphrase: it might break X, but only temporarily
[10:00] <catchphrase> yeah X broke
[10:00] <breezy_dapper> what you wanna do mkanel
[10:00] <catchphrase> when i tried that log out, ctrl alt F
[10:00] <Amaranth> catchphrase: with what error?
[10:00] <mkrufky> however.... this problem is on a 100% ubuntu box... using breeze stock kernel........ im trying to set up apache2 using php to access a mssql database, and i get this error: Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mssql_connect() --  all resources tell me that i must recompile php with freetds support, but I was under the impresseion that Ubuntu Just Works (tm) ...  I already have dev-freetds and sqlrelay-freetds packages installed ...  _jason pointed me to LA
[10:00] <kootaphor> aha thanks
[10:01] <catchphrase> er ctrl alt backspace
[10:01] <mkane12> breezy...i wanna be able to run linux and Windows
[10:01] <mkane12> but i'm not sure how to set it up
[10:01] <Amaranth> !find php5-mssql
[10:01] <breezy_dapper> yea i got that
[10:01] <catchphrase> can't remember, but i'll give it another go (after reinstalling...)
[10:01] <breezy_dapper> how many partitions u got??
[10:01] <breezy_dapper> or hard drives
[10:01] <mkane12> i have nooo idea
[10:01] <mkane12> just the one hard drive
[10:01] <breezy_dapper> mmm
[10:02] <Amaranth> I broke ubotu.
[10:02] <breezy_dapper> i got a few partitions in my pc
[10:02] <Amaranth> ubotu: already running (debian, dict) => exceeded allowed forked processes count (1?).
[10:02] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Amaranth
[10:02] <mkrufky> Amaranth: apt-get knows no such package "php5-mssql"
[10:02] <naetrick> thingy: I asked you to post here :)
[10:02] <breezy_dapper> and i just used windows partition manager
[10:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'php5-mssql' returned no results.
[10:02] <thingy> naetrick, ah didnt see that
[10:02] <tanubis> anyone know of a way to get vlc to play wma files?
[10:03] <breezy_dapper> but you wont be able to use windows partition manager with one hard drive
[10:03] <thingy> naetrick, so want me to repeat?
[10:03] <naetrick> thingy: no biggy :)
[10:03] <Amaranth> mkrufky: I guess recompile PHP. *shrug*
[10:03] <mkane12> wot about partition magic?
[10:03] <breezy_dapper> u have ot use partition magic
[10:03] <naetrick> Sure, if you don't mind... if it's too much, you can paste it somewhere
[10:03] <mkrufky> Amaranth: and then i lose ubuntu support ?
[10:03] <breezy_dapper> or linux partiton manager
[10:03] <thingy> naetrick,  no its not much.
[10:03] <mkane12> how do u get into the linux partition manager/?
[10:03] <breezy_dapper> i wouldnt use linus under the booting it its kinda dangerous with it
[10:04] <naetrick> mkane12: fdisk/dev/hd*
[10:04] <naetrick> mkane12: fdisk /dev/hd*, rather
[10:04] <mkane12> cool thanx
[10:04] <Amaranth> mkrufky: No one in this channel will be able to help you with PHP configuration problems (unless they were simple, since it's a custom setup we don't know about) and you wouldn't be able to get paid support from canonical.
[10:04] <thingy> naetrick,  I could be wrong...but the msgs in http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html all seem to indicate that it can't read the XFS file system, how do you feel about a kernel recompile?, this time building the xfs file system into the kernel, did you use kernel-package to do the kernel debs?
[10:04] <naetrick> thingy: Yes, and I've tried recompiling it built in, but I get error codes, so I think it should be as a module
[10:05] <Amaranth> mkrufky: No big loss, PHP is dead simple to setup.
[10:05] <naetrick> I think adding "root=/dev/hda3" to the "append" may work
[10:05] <naetrick> I will try it
[10:05] <mkrufky> Amaranth: I apologize if im creating a problem...... but Jbailey convinced me to convert my companies web servers to use Ubuntu because this should already work
[10:05] <mkane12> that didn't work naetrick
[10:05] <breezy_dapper> if u had a different partition as to where all your documents are held,
[10:05] <breezy_dapper> back them up
[10:05] <naetrick> mkane12: You must do it as root, or, as ubuntu prefers, sudo
[10:05] <Amaranth> mkrufky: No problem.
[10:05] <breezy_dapper> and use that partition
[10:05] <mkrufky> Amaranth: sure, i am willing to compile it from source ... it's just that i was told that i wouldnt need to
[10:06] <breezy_dapper> for ur ubuntu
[10:06] <mkane12> oh riite
[10:06] <naetrick> so, "sudo fdisk /dev/hd*" should work
[10:06] <Amaranth> mkrufky: If I was actually using ubuntu right now I might be able to help more.
[10:06] <mkrufky> Amaranth: ah, okay
[10:06] <Amaranth> mkrufky: Ask jbailey about it then. :)
[10:06] <breezy_dapper> it should be straight from there onwards
[10:06] <mkrufky> Amaranth: hehe ok thanks for trying
[10:06] <Amaranth> right now i'm limited to what i know and what the bot can tell me
[10:06] <breezy_dapper> just pop the disc in and reboot
[10:06] <mkrufky> Amaranth: you're only human... i cant blame u
[10:07] <NoairKiller> dyrne: I just got disconnected, this is knowerrors
[10:07] <NoairKiller> did I miss anything?
[10:07] <breezy_dapper> and if it hangs after while reboot and enter linux acpi=off
[10:07] <jawbrkr> is there a repository with sun's java?
[10:07] <breezy_dapper> in the prompt
[10:07] <breezy_dapper> u still with me mkanel??
[10:07] <mkane12> yeah i think so
[10:07] <mkane12> lol
[10:07] <breezy_dapper> lol
[10:08] <breezy_dapper> it should be straight forward more or less after that just make sure you install
[10:08] <breezy_dapper> linux on the correct partition
[10:08] <ralves> hi there
[10:08] <_anilk> breezy_dapper: i have trouble upgrding to kubuntu dapper
[10:08] <dyrne> NoairKiller: nah. if I understand you have make a directory under /mnt and are trying to add hdb3 to fstab mounting on that dir?
[10:08] <breezy_dapper> otherwise windows is permanently gone
[10:08] <Amaranth> mkrufky: btw, how are you using mssql on an ubuntu box?
[10:08] <mkane12> ok then....thank you
[10:08] <suseforge> jawbrkr: not that i am aware of but you can download the self-extracting rpm at java.com
[10:09] <NoairKiller> dyrne: right
[10:09] <Amaranth> !javadeb
[10:09] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:09] <manuelinux> i cant make a custom kernel when i build it have that errors
[10:09] <manuelinux> make[5] : *** [drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zddevlist.h]  Error 1
[10:09] <manuelinux> make[4] : *** [drivers/usb/net/zd1211]  Error 2
[10:09] <manuelinux> make[3] : *** [drivers/usb/net]  Error 2
[10:09] <manuelinux> make[2] : *** [drivers/usb]  Error 2
[10:09] <manuelinux> make[1] : *** [drivers]  Error 2
[10:09] <manuelinux> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15'
[10:09] <ralves> anyone know how to get the totem plugins? I Cant read any file
[10:09] <manuelinux> make: *** [stamp-build]  Error 2
[10:09] <M4id3n> lol
[10:09] <M4id3n> ;)
[10:09] <manuelinux> anyone can help me?
[10:09] <M4id3n> :] 
[10:09] <breezy_dapper> easy peasy for me that was
[10:09] <mkane12> lucky you
[10:09] <Amaranth> stupid ChanServ, listen to me!
[10:09] <Seveas> manuelinux, NEVER paste in here
[10:09] <breezy_dapper> learning how to install programs was the hardest part of linux
[10:09] <Amaranth> manuelinux: Please don't do what again.
[10:10] <mkrufky> Amaranth: mssql running on m$ w2k server
[10:10] <mkane12> yeah i just got told that today
[10:10] <Amaranth> finally, that's some lag
[10:10] <manuelinux> :( sorry
[10:10] <Seveas> Amaranth, no, I made him op you :)
[10:10] <ompaul> !tell manuelinux about paste
[10:10] <breezy_dapper> kool
[10:10] <breezy_dapper> did ya get the cd or dvd version
[10:10] <breezy_dapper> i had to get the dvd version
[10:11] <mkane12> this was the cd version
[10:11] <dyrne> NoairKiller: i would do i believe /dev/hdb3        /mnt/hdb3        reiserfs    defaults     0    0
[10:11] <breezy_dapper> coz it never installed on the cd for me
[10:11] <thingy> naetrick, that was quick!
[10:11] <thingy> naetrick, did it work?
[10:11] <mkane12> ah rite
[10:11] <mkrufky> Amaranth: the point is, Ubuntu box is supposed to be the web server.  we cannot move our database away from m$sql, regardless of how much i hate m$
[10:11] <Amaranth> oh, i'm not identified
[10:11] <Seveas> Amaranth, that explains :)
[10:11] <naetrick> thingy: Now I get: "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000008", then a Seg Fault, and call stack
[10:11] <Amaranth> mkrufky: ah
[10:11] <Amaranth> mkrufky: I'd complain to jbailey. ;)
[10:11] <mkane12> how long u being running linux?
[10:11] <dyrne> NoairKiller: and then sudo mount -a but if that doesnt work type 'mount' and make sure ubuntu didnt automatically mount it to a different directory
[10:12] <Amaranth> mkrufky: btw, you're doing this on a test machine, right?
[10:12] <naetrick> after it mounted the partition. This is from adding "root=/dev/hda3" in append in the LILO.conf
[10:12] <thingy> naetrick, this is with the xfs as module kernel?
[10:12] <mkrufky> Amaranth: i am building a ubuntu web server to replace a w2k web server
[10:12] <breezy_dapper> i was amazed that they had all the drivers for my soundcard unlike mandrake which kept on crashing afta a while
[10:12] <Amaranth> eww, lilo
[10:12] <android> What do I need to set in fstab to mount an ext3 partition with user permissions 777?
[10:12] <naetrick> thingy: Yes
[10:12] <mkrufky> Amaranth: it is a nice dell rack- unused now, but it WILL be a production box
[10:12] <NoairKiller> dyrne: tried that, I still get : [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:13] <naetrick> Amaranth: GRUB is yuck when you try to load XFS with it... otherwise I agree with you
[10:13] <NoairKiller> mount: /dev/hdb3 already mounted or /mnt/hdb3 busy
[10:13] <Amaranth> NoairKiller: edit /etc/fstab, add a blank line on the end
[10:13] <skeff> can I get Ubuntu builds for fresh packages like Psi-0.10 ?
[10:13] <Amaranth> NoairKiller: it'll get rid of that warning :P
[10:14] <breezy_dapper> oooh must dash
[10:14] <naetrick> thingy: So what do you think
[10:14] <NoairKiller> Amaranth: cool, will try
[10:14] <breezy_dapper> ooops i put mkanel not mkane12
[10:14] <naetrick> It sucks that Gentoo's portage doesn't also have binaries for each source package
[10:15] <naetrick> I use it myself, but my family wouldn't like the compile times...
[10:15] <mkrufky> naetrick: that defeats the purpose of gentoo
[10:15] <naetrick> mkrufky: Somewhat... you still get a ton of customizability, and more ease of use IMO
[10:15] <naetrick> but I guess I'm just used to it
[10:15] <Amaranth> mkrufky: Please don't say the purpose of gentoo is increased speed from compiling your own stuff.
[10:15] <NoairKiller> Amaranth: I still get :mount: /dev/hdb3 already mounted or /mnt/hdb3 busy
[10:15] <mkane12> this was the first version of linux i've tried, so i wasn't sure what to expect
[10:15] <Amaranth> NoairKiller: Sure, I was fixing the other problem. :)
[10:16] <Amaranth> NoairKiller: cat /etc/mtab
[10:16] <mkrufky> Amaranth: ok... i wont say it ;-)
[10:16] <Amaranth> NoairKiller: that'll tell you where it's mounted at
[10:16] <kbrooks> Amaranth, is gentoo a distro for distributions
[10:16] <Amaranth> kbrooks: No, that's debian. :)
[10:16] <kbrooks> Amaranth, I thought gentnoo was a meta distro.
[10:16] <mkrufky> there ARE some gentoo-based distros out there, but i dont think any of them caught on at all
[10:17] <janno> I downloaded 1 program source files. There was 2 makefile's makefile.am nad makefile.in <--- i must run one of them in console or something? :S
[10:17] <naetrick> If I could just get these gosh darned errors resolved
[10:17] <mkrufky> he's right though... debian is the distro for distros
[10:17] <amphi> janno: read the README or INSTALL file
[10:17] <Amaranth> mkrufky: Those compiler flags will only get you a minuscule increase in speed and most of them will actually make things slower (by a minuscule amount).
[10:17] <Amaranth> mkrufky: For the things that they do help with ubuntu has CPU-specific packages. :)
[10:17] <mkrufky> Amaranth: machine dual boots from gentoo to ubuntu.... gentoo is much faster, ubuntu is much nicer
[10:18] <_anilk> breezy_dapper: i have trouble upgrding to kubuntu dapper
[10:18] <naetrick> Amaranth: That's true except for CPU intensive apps, then you'll get massive speed increases
[10:18] <mkrufky> sorry... MY machine
[10:18] <naetrick> for but for regular apps, it's a waste of time (optimizations)
[10:18] <Amaranth> naetrick: Sure, but I'm talking about your standard desktop.
[10:18] <Steve_p> Didn't Gentoo come from Stampede?
[10:18] <mkrufky> ah... i am NOT talking about a standard desktop
[10:18] <NoairKiller> Amaranth: it doesn't show hdb3 at all from typing cat /etc/mtab
[10:18] <naetrick> Amaranth: One benefit with using GCC is you can use "-Os", optimizing for size... that can greatly reduce the size of binaries
[10:19] <naetrick> by a lot, and I do mean a lot
[10:19] <Amaranth> Most desktop apps spend all their time waiting for input or reading from the disk.
[10:19] <mkane12> does anybody know a program that's similar to dreamweaver?
[10:19] <amphi> naetrick: stripping them reduces the size a good bit too
[10:19] <majd> hi, is there a way to view a list of the running programs?
[10:19] <Amaranth> NoairKiller: what does it show? pastebin the output
[10:19] <amphi> majd: top or ps aux
[10:19] <Amaranth> mkane12: nvu?
[10:19] <naetrick> amphi: That's true
[10:19] <mkane12> where would i find nvu?
[10:19] <suseforge> Mkane12:Bluefish or OO.o if you dont want to deal with html
[10:20] <naetrick> amphi: I also found that, when writing my own apps in C, that tuning them for my specific processor makes them even slower
[10:20] <mkrufky> majd: "ps aux" ... "top"
[10:20] <naetrick> "-mtune=pentium4" or "-march=pentium4"
[10:20] <majd> is there a way to close one of them?
[10:20] <Amaranth> majd: kill -9 <pid>
[10:20] <Amaranth> majd: you get the PID from top or ps
[10:21] <amphi> naetrick: -ffastmath is good for floating point code speed, I found
[10:21] <Amaranth> majd: actually, there is a UI for all of this
[10:21] <naetrick> I wish Ubuntu was a bit smarter configuring the kernel... it couldn't even detect if this CPU had HT or not, and it's default timer frequency is 250Hz!
[10:21] <thingy> naetrick, can you paste the url for the mount errors please
[10:21] <mkrufky> naetrick: NO kernel build menuconfig system detects that
[10:21] <Amaranth> majd: it should be in Applications->System Tools
[10:21] <naetrick> amphi: Yup, and -funroll-loops, too. That can give a nice gain, but it'll increase binary size
[10:22] <mkrufky> naetrick: also, Lunis decided that 250 Kz is the sane default
[10:22] <mkrufky> s/Lunis/Linus
[10:22] <naetrick> mkrufky: Sure, they should be. I'm not talking about when I type "make menuconfig", but when it configured the kernel during install
[10:22] <mkrufky> s/Kz/Hz
[10:22] <naetrick> Though I'd just do it myself again
[10:22] <NoairKiller> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8609
[10:22] <naetrick> mkrufky: 1MHz will give you much better responsiveness
[10:22] <naetrick> thingy: The one I posted earlier?
[10:22] <thingy> naetrick, yes please
[10:23] <Amaranth> NoairKiller: I don't see the problem, sorry.
[10:23] <cyphase> is anyone using a video card that has dvi and works out of the box, with 3d?
[10:23] <mkrufky> naetrick: sure... but 250Hz is the sane default .... 1MHz sure... better for your desktop maybe, but not for a high-availability server
[10:23] <amphi> mkrufky: heh, 'lunix' recalled this venerable troll: http://adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
[10:23] <amphi> er, lunis
[10:23] <naetrick> mkrufky: That's true, and it can shorten the battery life for laptops by quite a bit
[10:23] <Amaranth> cyphase: The only cards with 3D support that work out of the box are Radeon 7000-9200
[10:23] <cyphase> my mistake
[10:24] <ltibor65> Hi guys! I have two Linux and Windows XP on my computer. I used Grub to load the operating systems. I needed to reinstall Windows, and it overwrote the Grub in Master Boot Record. How can I reinstall Grub to MBR without reinstalling any linux?
[10:24] <Amaranth> cyphase: afaik only the mac versions of those have DRI
[10:24] <suseforge> Mkane12 NVU can be found at http://www.nvu.com/
[10:24] <cyphase> out of the box, and after installing drivers :)
[10:24] <Amaranth> !windows
[10:24] <ubotu> it has been said that windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[10:24] <Amaranth> grr
[10:24] <Amaranth> !grub
[10:24] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:24] <naetrick> thingy: Well, now it mounts it fine, but I get those errors "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference..."
[10:24] <Amaranth> ltibor65: ^
[10:25] <naetrick> And it dumps me to busybox, ash
[10:25] <janno> How i can run rpm files
[10:25] <Amaranth> janno: alien
[10:25] <Amaranth> !rpm
[10:25] <ubotu> I guess rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[10:25] <Amaranth> arg
[10:25] <Amaranth> i give up
[10:25] <janno> !alien
[10:25] <ubotu> it has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[10:25] <amphi> naetrick: that's disappointing ;) what gives you that?
[10:26] <naetrick> amphi: When I boot
[10:26] <naetrick> This is ticking me off, big time. And when I don't use an initrd image, I get a call stack dump also (like I am now)
[10:26] <naetrick> I need this custom kernel, because the default configuration is slow, and takes forever to load
[10:27] <francois222> Hi everyone
[10:28] <francois222> I have a technical problem (I'm no newbie).
[10:28] <ulrik> Hey, I'm a little new to the Linux world, and I have a question... When I install a, say, Debian package, it keeps a log of changes so it's easy to backtrack and uninstall the application, right? But when I configure and make software by the command line, is there an easy way to uninstall the sofware again then?
[10:28] <thingy> naetrick, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-395122-highlight-unable+handle+kernel+null+pointer+dereference.html is this your symptoms?
[10:29] <francois222> I want to remove libmysqlclient12 since I use mysql-server-41 and libmysqlclient14. How can I remove this lib without having to remove ubuntudesktop package?
[10:29] <kbrooks> francois222,
[10:29] <naetrick> thingy: Somewhat... I get the NULL pointer error, and the Call trace gives me some loaded modules
[10:29] <kbrooks> apt does not remove any deps of package which are removed
[10:29] <kbrooks> therefore, removing ubuntudesktop wont have any effect
[10:30] <francois222> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[10:30] <francois222>   libmysqlclient12 python2.4-librdf ubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <francois222> Yes it does
[10:30] <thingy> naetrick, are you loading a kernel specific module such the nvidia/ati one?
[10:30] <kbrooks> francois222, i'm right, you're wrong.
[10:30] <naetrick> thingy: No
[10:30] <DUMAiSO> Any one can help me to mount and be able to write on a new reiserfs partition?
[10:30] <vladuz976> i did a server install, how can i install X ?
[10:31] <kbrooks> francois222, look. apt does not remove gnome. it is in ubuntu-desktop. nor does it remove gaim. it is in ubuntu-desktop.
[10:31] <francois222> kbrooks, Well aptitude tell me that you are wrong :)
[10:31] <francois222> ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[10:31] <kbrooks> francois222, if it did, it would have to EXPLICITLY mention it
[10:31] <kbrooks> read: explicit
[10:31] <kbrooks> implicitly is a bug.
[10:31] <kbrooks> a big bug.
[10:31] <vladuz976> i installed xorg-common but "startx" doesn't work, says command not found
[10:31] <amphi> francois222: use apt-get ;)
[10:32] <francois222> I use apt-get
[10:32] <amphi> vladuz976: apt-get install xserver-xorg
[10:32] <francois222> apt-get remove libmysqlclient12
[10:32] <trappist> vladuz976: startx is in the xinit package
[10:32] <Spudly> vladuz976: you need to install "x-server-common"
[10:32] <vladuz976> amphi: thanks
[10:32] <kbrooks> francois222, say y, and please report this bug if you ever find it, okay/?
[10:32] <ulrik> Noone who could help me with my question? :(
[10:32] <francois222> Removing ubuntu-desktop ...
[10:32] <francois222> Removing python2.4-librdf ...
[10:32] <francois222> Removing libmysqlclient12 ...
[10:32] <vladuz976> Spudly: which one common or xorg?
[10:32] <amphi> vladuz976: and xbase-clients
[10:32] <francois222> you were wrong kbrooks
[10:32] <kbrooks> francois222, see? it didnt remove gnome
[10:32] <kbrooks> i'm sorry
[10:32] <Spudly> vladuz976: i install all the xorg packages, but they don't come with xinit and the support tools that most ppl use.
[10:33] <mkane12> so i'm new to Linux, and i'm kinda tryin to set up a website. Anyone know any tools for web design throug Linux?
[10:33] <amphi> mkane12: vim is good
[10:33] <kbrooks> francois222, ubuntu-desktop was removed and ubuntu works
[10:33] <francois222> I did not said I will remove gnome, only the ubutu desktop meta package, that I'd like to keep installed on my system
[10:33] <fortran01> Does btlaunchmany seed?
[10:33] <amphi> mkane12: gimp for graphics
[10:33] <mkane12> is that with in Linux or do i have to get it from elsewhere?
[10:33] <francois222> I know but I want this package
[10:33] <naetrick> Do you guys recommend I enable CONFIG_EMBEDDED in the kernel
[10:33] <kbrooks> francois222, then reinstall it.
[10:33] <amphi> mkane12: it's a text editor
[10:33] <vladuz976> Spudly: so what should i install then besides the xserver-xorg?
[10:33] <amphi> naetrick: not on a pc
[10:33] <kbrooks> soundray, well, well, well.
[10:34] <mkane12> oh rite
[10:34] <francois222> It will reinstall libmysql12 that I dont want because my prep statement does not work with PHP
[10:34] <soundray> kbrooks, hi. irc-classes?
[10:34] <naetrick> Ok, well it was enabled by default in the kernel :)
[10:34] <vladuz976> isn't there some kind of meta package?
[10:34] <vladuz976> for S
[10:34] <vladuz976> X
[10:34] <amphi> naetrick: heh
[10:34] <Spudly> vladuz976: actually,  it's x-windows-system
[10:35] <Spudly> vladuz976: my apologies - that will install xinit and startx
[10:36] <amphi> Spudly: startx is provided by xbase-clients here
[10:36] <francois222> kbrooks, well nevermind. I'll ask the ubuntu team to allow libmysql14 with ubuntu-desktop meta-package because thisis a lot of trouble when you developt with libmysql14
[10:36] <ulrik> Someone who'll answer a newbie-question?
[10:36] <DUMAiSO> Any one can help me to mount and be able to write on a new reiserfs partition?
[10:36] <kbrooks> francois222, you cant
[10:37] <francois222> why not
[10:37] <kbrooks> francois222, well, you can
[10:37] <kbrooks> francois222, but
[10:37] <kbrooks> francois222, i suspect they will say no
[10:37] <thingy> naetrick, did come across much on forums.gentoo.org you'll need the error message on the screen to go hunting for this...since its a new kernel you are testing in essense, it could be the kernel config...anyway im outta here...good luck!
[10:37] <amphi> ulrik: just ask
[10:37] <kbrooks> francois222, no one wants mysql unless they need it
[10:37] <thingy> swap/did come/didn't come
[10:37] <vladuz976> when you do a standard install what parts of the xorg stuff gets installed?
[10:38] <LinuxElite> kbrooks, no need for mysql-server-41. Im just saying you might want libmysql41 instead of the old libmysql12
[10:38] <Spudly> vladuz976: good question!
[10:38] <naetrick> thingy: Thanks, I think that might be it, too
[10:38] <thingy> vladuz976, you want "apt-get x-window-system-core" stuff unless you are looking to save on disk space and get by on the minimal things needed to run X
[10:38] <naetrick> Anyone wanna take a look at my .config for problems? :0 http://rafb.net/paste/results/ru6zVZ61.html
[10:38] <kbrooks> LinuxElite, still not convinced
[10:39] <vladuz976> thingy: ok, thanks
[10:39] <kbrooks> LinuxElite, #ubuntu-dev
[10:39] <LinuxElite> kbrooks, thanks
[10:39] <ulrik> amphi: Well, I'm just a little confused about the Linux way of installing/uninstalling software
[10:39] <thingy> vladuz976, by the way, x-window-system-core for reason doesnt pull xterm in with it...so do a apt-get xterm as well.
[10:39] <kbrooks> LinuxElite, no,
[10:39] <kbrooks> oh fuck
[10:39] <amphi> ulrik: that's distro-specific
[10:39] <vladuz976> thingy: oh ok, good to know
[10:40] <Evilkiksass> I was wondering if there is a place where i can find the minimum system requirements for ubuntu
[10:40] <amphi> ulrik: on ubuntu you use synaptic or aptititude or apt-get
[10:40] <ulrik> amphi, When you use a package, it's pretty easy to uninstall your software again.. But what about when you do a configure, make, make install? It seems rather messy if you can't remove the software from the system again, taking into account that the installer spreads all the files out
[10:40] <kbrooks> ulrik,
[10:40] <vladuz976> why does breezy take so long to load. i was running archlinux before and it booted super quickly
[10:40] <kbrooks> !checkinstall
[10:40] <ubotu> somebody said checkinstall was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[10:40] <kbrooks> here you go.
[10:41] <ulrik> thanks
[10:41] <amphi> ulrik: indeed - if you're lucky, make uninstall will work; otherwise you can do make -n install | less to see what it did, and undo it manually
[10:41] <amphi> ulrik: there is also some gnu thing (chkinstall ?) that automates this
[10:41] <ulrik> oh, I see why apt makes administrators so happy then :)
[10:41] <kbrooks> amphi, checkinstall is nt part of the gnu project
[10:42] <amphi> kbrooks: I believe there is a gnu thing that does something similar
[10:42] <ulrik> thanks for enlightening me ;)
[10:42] <tr[i] ad> does anyone know how to make a startup program start rolled up?
[10:43] <Spudly> anyone here have an opinion on Gentoo's 'emerge' compared to 'apt-get'?
[10:43] <amphi> ulrik: at least, make install should install under /usr/local so it won't clobber distro stuff under /usr
[10:43] <amphi> apt-get good, emerge bad ;)
[10:43] <Evilkiksass> I was wondering if there is a place where i can find the minimum system requirements for ubuntu? or if someone could tell me what they are?
[10:43] <tatters> when it says I have to run /usr/sbin/aideinit which has a .sh do I just run it in terminal ?
[10:43] <Spudly> amphi: lol :P
[10:43] <amphi> Spudly: note that I speak from pure prejudice
[10:43] <ulrik> I see, I guess I have to learn a little more about the directory structure too
[10:44] <janno> Grr firefox crashed again
[10:44] <trappist> Spudly: apt-get won't waste the next 6 hours of your life if you try to install mozilla-firefox and it's already installed and the newest version
[10:44] <dyrne> Evilkiksass: that depends on whether you want to run gnome/kde or a lighter WM
[10:44] <Evilkiksass> dyrne: whatever is best for people looking to learn linux
[10:44] <tr[i] ad> does anyone know how to make a startup program start rolled up?
[10:45] <mheath> #utah
[10:45] <mheath> erm, sorry.
[10:45] <hmrocha> good evening
[10:45] <Evilkiksass> good *timezone your in*
[10:45] <vladuz976> what's the packge name for nvidia drivers? i only found nvidia-legacy
[10:45] <hmrocha> Evilkiksass: :)
[10:45] <trappist> vladuz976: apt-cache search nvidia
[10:46] <mheath> Evilkiksass, good Mountain Standard Time? ;-)
[10:46] <MetaMorfoziS> vladuz976: nvida-glx
[10:46] <tatters> when it says I have to run script /usr/sbin/aideinit which has a .sh do I just dbl click and open in terminal?
[10:46] <MetaMorfoziS> and nvidia-glx-settings
[10:46] <MetaMorfoziS> but
[10:46] <MetaMorfoziS> !nvidia
[10:46] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:46] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:46] <janno> Fucking firefox crashed again :@ I hate the fucking firefox now :) Ie is tha best(Y) :D
[10:46] <Evilkiksass> janno you speak from your arse
[10:47] <vladuz976> oh by the way, does breezy have a firefox 1.5 version in the repos?
[10:47] <dyrne> Evilkiksass: what are your system specs?
[10:47] <ulrik> What about Opera? That's pretty nice too
[10:47] <ccc__> vladuz976: no
[10:47] <dyrne> Evilkiksass: ive run debian/ubuntu on a p133 16mb ram ok
[10:48] <Evilkiksass> dyrne: um 1ghz pentium 3, on board video, 128mb of ram (soare system i found in the garage)
[10:48] <naetrick> I still get those dang NULL Pointer dereferences when trying to mount the XFS partition
[10:48] <tr[i] ad> does anyone know how to make a startup program start rolled up? or force it to start on the corner (gaim)?
[10:48] <Evilkiksass> gaim will do it automaticaly
[10:48] <dyrne> Evilkiksass: with 128mb ram i would download the xubuntu cd instead of ubuntu. xubuntu comes with a lighter window manager that will take up less ram
[10:48] <Evilkiksass> look inside of its option set
[10:48] <tr[i] ad> it goes randomly
[10:49] <Evilkiksass> dyrne: and assuming i expand memory?
[10:49] <ubuntu> how much ram is needed for ubuntu then?
[10:49] <Evilkiksass> tr[i] ad: you should be able to at the very least start it docked to your right hand side of the monitor
[10:49] <amphi> ubuntu: depends ; if you only use console, 16MB is ok
[10:50] <dyrne> Evilkiksass: above 256mb you should be ok for gnome/kde but I would want 512.
[10:50] <tr[i] ad> Evilkiksass: can u please explain how, or is it automatic?
[10:50] <ubuntu> got 256 in my 256mhz amd. writing file system take ages
[10:50] <tatters> usr/sbin/aideinit
[10:50] <tatters>  how do I run a script?
[10:51] <dyrne> Evilkiksass: xubuntu (xfce) is very nice though
[10:51] <Evilkiksass> tr[i] ad: not sure in linux but in windows just push it against the side, suposedly gaim offers the same capabilities for windows and linux
[10:51] <rublind> Is it possible to install ubuntu via floppies?
[10:51] <vladuz976> can someone help out? i installed xorg and nvidia, also have my .xinitrc set to start enlightenment, but only get a black screen
[10:51] <tr[i] ad> k thanks, ill try it
[10:52] <Hanzo> can ubuntu work in a cluster?
[10:52] <amphi> rublind: ubuntu has no boot floppies
[10:52] <catchphrase> running on a p3-450 with 512megs of pc100.. runs pretty sluggish.
[10:52] <rublind> amphi: is there a way to create one or something?
[10:52] <Steve_p> rublind, I doubt it.  Slakckware may still be able too
[10:52] <nethblano> can i get notepad/word/wordperfect/wordpad for linux?
[10:52] <amphi> rublind: did the debian base system -> ubuntu thing not work?
[10:52] <rublind> amphi: getting debian is proving to be difficult in itself.
[10:53] <amphi> nethblano: openoffice and [g|k] edit perhaps
[10:53] <tatters> does sbin mean script bin?
[10:53] <amphi> rublind: I thought you had debian stable floppy net install going ok for you
[10:53] <amphi> tatters: no
[10:53] <rublind> amphi: yeah, but that's sarge, and I wanted etch, and to get etech is a big problem, and it just led me in circles.
[10:54] <tatters> whats a file with a sh icon it called?
[10:54] <rublind> amphi: what I really want is ubuntu, and I don't know how I'm going to get it.
[10:54] <amphi> tatters: the 's' is for system I believe, the directory contains stuff mostly to be used by the administrator
[10:54] <nethblano> amphi will it be readable by windows OS's?
[10:54] <tatters> I have to run that file but not sure
[10:54] <doofy> hello
[10:55] <amphi> rublind: did you try installing debian base system, change sources.list, and doing apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[10:55] <rublind> No, but it's worth a shot.
[10:55] <amphi> nethblano: will what be?
[10:55] <nethblano> amphi nethblano: openoffice and [g|k] edit perhaps
[10:55] <tatters> if I click it ask if I want to open in terminal but then terminal just quickly opens and closes is that correct?
[10:55] <amphi> rublind: that's what I'd try
[10:55] <amphi> rublind: with sarge
[10:56] <rublind> amphi: okay, I'll give that a shot. I'll need the ubuntu sources, I'll ask for them later. :)
[10:56] <Hanzo> is ubuntu worth installing on my system or is it just dissapointing?
[10:56] <amphi> nethblano: I know what I bloody said, but what do you mean? they are editors and office 'productivity' (hah!) sw
[10:56] <nethblano> dissapointing thats for sure
[10:56] <Evilkiksass> anyone know the install size of a full install?
[10:56] <amphi> Hanzo: depends how divergent your expectations are from reality ;)
[10:56] <startu_net> does anybody know what it can be if my pc sometimes halts before booting the kernel (just showing the text boot)
[10:56] <dyrne> Hanzo: i used to go back and forth between linux and xp for years there is no xp on my system since switching to ubuntu
[10:56] <catchphrase> Evilkiksass - around 2 gigs or so, after the updates.
[10:57] <Evilkiksass> catchphrase: thank you
[10:57] <nethblano> amphi i sent a text editor file to a windows computer and they couldnt read it
[10:57] <Hanzo> dyrne: thats what its been like for me for years.
[10:57] <amphi> nethblano: so get an editor that's not broken, that can understand unix line terminators
[10:58] <nethblano> so youre saying that the stock editor on ubuntu is broken?
[10:58] <amphi> nethblano: notepad and wordpad do not fall into the non-broken caegory
[10:58] <amphi> nethblano: no, windows is broken, has been since dos
[10:58] <nethblano> ubuntu is crap
[10:58] <Hanzo> huh?
[10:58] <nethblano> no compatibility
[10:59] <amphi> nethblano: a decent editor can deal with different line terminators, like vim, which is available on win32 and unices
[10:59] <nethblano> waste of 4 weeks delivery
[10:59] <newbuntie> what's the best way of installing flash? Do I just run sudo firefox?
[10:59] <vladuz976> can anybody help me fix X? it starts only witha black screen
[10:59] <doofy> nethblano: thanks for trying ubuntu out, sorry it didnt fill all of your needs.
[10:59] <Jemt> Greetz. I'm building 40 net-cabels (Cat 5E) from scratch (attaching connectors my self). Is there some way I can test the cables? At the moment I ping Google. But if it takes me more than 4 seconds to change the cable, I'm being disconnected and I haft to reboot in order to get back online.
[10:59] <doofy> No need telling us its crap though
[10:59] <tatters> how do I run .sh file?
[11:00] <colm> actually if you load that file using DOS Edit, it will be fine - load it with DOS edit and then save it again.  Notepad actually went backwards...
[11:00] <nethblano> why, do you already know?
[11:00] <doofy> well, everybody has different opinions
[11:00] <dyrne> tatters: most cases sh filename.sh
[11:00] <newbuntie> tatters: you can just doubleclick it, but the terminal won't be visible on the task bar, anyone know how to run it so that I can *see* the terminal?
[11:00] <colm> vladuz976, have you ever had x working?  or has a recent change broken it?
[11:01] <amphi> nethblano: in almost every case of incmpatibility, you will find that it is windows that deviates from the standard
[11:01] <Evilkiksass> amphi: right on
[11:02] <tatters> yep that happens newbuntie just dont know to start it off from the teminal
[11:02] <vladuz976> colm: yes, but not on this system
[11:02] <bimberi> tatters: sh file.sh
[11:02] <Hanzo__> amphi, in the past my main problem is installing software/drivers on linux platforms, has it been made easier on ubuntu?
[11:02] <Stormx2> What is Debian Sarge?
[11:02] <vladuz976> colm: i just did a server install, then installed xorg and nvidia-glx
[11:03] <amphi> Stormx2: current debian stable
[11:03] <newbuntie> so does anyone know how to run a sh file from nautilius so that the terminal is visible, and..
[11:03] <amphi> Hanzo__: drivers are more of a kernel issue than a distro isuue
[11:03] <newbuntie> question 2, how do you install flash do you just run firefox in sudo?
[11:03] <rublind> Which is better, kubuntu, or ubuntu? KDE or GNOME? I've heard mixed reviews and I am having a hard time decding.
[11:03] <tatters> k thnx bimeri
[11:03] <Hanzo__> amphi ATi drivers.
[11:03] <colm> vladuz976, ok that's a bit advanced...  I performed similar tasks on this machine, but to get X i installed gnome
[11:03] <amphi> Hanzo__: fglrx? I believe that is a bastard generally
[11:04] <bimberi> rublind: try both and decide for yourself
[11:04] <ccc__> rublind: impossible to answer, try both yourself
[11:04] <vladuz976> anybody else here any suggestions on how i could get my X to work?
[11:04] <Hanzo__> yep ive had only bad luck with fglrx
[11:04] <colm> vladuz976, what happens if you try Ctrl+Alt+F2?
[11:04] <rublind> Alright... well, thanks for the input. :)
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Hey, I need some help with Enlightenment menus.
[11:04] <amphi> Hanzo__: my card is old enough to be supported by the xorg driver, so no problem, but new cards are another story
[11:04] <rublind> amphi: when I'm going to be updating from sarge, will I need to have xorg, kde or gnome already installed?
[11:04] <amphi> Hanzo__: what card do you have?
[11:04] <newbuntie> c'mon, you've got to know how to install flash, don't you all use firefox?
[11:04] <dyrne> newbuntie: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla i believe
[11:04] <bimberi> rublind: you're very welcome, such that it was :)
[11:05] <Hanzo__> ati radeon 9200se 128mb.
[11:05] <rublind> :)
[11:05] <skazii> Anyone know after I mound hda0, after i reboot it goes away like I never mounted it...anyone know how i can remain it as mounted period?
[11:05] <amphi> rublind: no, as I said, my feeling is you want as little debian as possible; just base system
[11:05] <rublind> amphi: okay.
[11:05] <Jonny> hey, I have ubuntu on my laptop, and the graphics card is running rather slow (its an ATI Mobility IGP 320M). I've tryed downloading the official drivers, but they haven't seemed to make much of a diffrence. Any advice?
[11:05] <amphi> rublind: then change you sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> When I try to navigate through the menus in E, for ones that have a long list of applications in them, they expand funny, the mouse can't keep up, and then they close.  Essentially, I am unable to access any item in an E menu category that has more items than fit on one screen (and need to scroll over).
[11:06] <amphi> rublind: then try apt-get install [k] ubuntu-desktop or whatever
[11:06] <Tsukoharu> can any1 help me
[11:06] <rublind> Ah, okay.
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> !tell skazii about fstab
[11:06] <Tsukoharu> im having trouble with cds
[11:06] <naetrick> could my problem be that, in the original kernel, pretty much everything was modules, and in my custom, more is built in?
[11:06] <Tsukoharu> and my laptop
[11:06] <rublind> amphi: well, I'm still kind of far from that, so, I'll get back to ya. I'm just trying to stop myself from getting bored.
[11:07] <amphi> Hanzo__: according to radeon(4x), RV280  Radeon 9200PRO/9200/9200SE, M9+ is supported by the xorg driver
[11:07] <william> can anyone help me get WPA working on my network ?
[11:07] <amphi> Hanzo__: 3d accel that is - you'll need support in the kernel too, obviously
[11:07] <amphi> rublind: heh
[11:07] <Hanzo__> but mine is agp 8x
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> If there's anyone here who uses Enlightenment, please let me know.  I'm sure my issue with it is a simple one and you must have figured out how to get around it by now.
[11:08] <amphi> Hanzo__: (4x) is the section of the manual that the radeon manpage is in
[11:08] <rublind> :)
[11:08] <william> i can connect fine when i disable wpa but when i enable it i dont know where to enter wpa, i know there is iwconfig eth1 key but that only works with WEP
[11:08] <tolstoy> folks: i've a package I can't remove because of a remove script error.  how can I remove it anyway?  (yes, I mucked with some files belonging to the package: and reinstall doesn't work either)
[11:09] <Tsukoharu> every time i load a cd into my laptop, a boot cd, all it takes me to is a flashing cursor
[11:09] <Ng> william: there's a package called wpasupplicant that might help, but I've never used it
[11:09] <naetrick> william: Do you use ndiswrapper?
[11:09] <colm> Tsukoharu, have you tried the CD in another machine?  have you ever booted off any other cd in the laptop?
[11:09] <tolstoy> E: xorg-driver-fglrx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[11:10] <dyrne> tolstoy: what package?
[11:10] <naetrick> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net has a great wiki, and has a bunch of HOWTO's on getting your network set up, along with WPA HOWTOs
[11:10] <tolstoy> dyrne, xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:10] <Tsukoharu> colm the cds are burned
[11:10] <froookyo> hi @ all
[11:10] <tolstoy> dyrne, I'm scanning apt-get man pages, and now dpkg for a --force, but no luck so far.
[11:10] <Tsukoharu> colm but idont see what i could do wrong to make them unable to work
[11:10] <colm> Tsukoharu, have you tested them elsewhere?
[11:10] <froookyo> cann comeone help me to set up a wireless connection with kubuntu??
[11:10] <Jonny> hey, if anyone was looking into my question, disregard it
[11:11] <Tsukoharu> i can try on this 1 sec
[11:11] <newbuntie> why does the firefox flash installer fail? because of directory permissions?
[11:11] <william> thanks naetrick, and also, how do i put a group of commands in a script so i can just run the file without typing each command in a terminal
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any c# editor/compiler for ubuntu ?
[11:11] <colm> MetaMorfoziS, monodevelop, but the version in the repositories is very old and buggy
[11:11] <naetrick> william: You mean on boot, or just regularly?
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[11:12] <william> just regularly
[11:12] <dyrne> tolstoy: not the driver you needed?
[11:12] <odla> tolstoy: try aptitude purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:12] <william> similar to a batch file in windows is what i mean
[11:12] <naetrick> I'm not sure... look on Google for bash scripts
[11:12] <odla> tolstoy: sudo before aptitude
[11:13] <naetrick> I'm a C guy, so I'd honestly do system("command1;command2;command3;..."); ;)
[11:13] <taylor_> what is the latest release of Wine?
[11:13] <naetrick> taylor_: 0.9.7
[11:13] <taylor_> do you know where i can get a .deb of it?
[11:13] <tolstoy> odla, I get errors.  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[11:13] <naetrick> taylor_: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[11:14] <taylor_> thanks
[11:14] <tolstoy> dyrne, i had the fglrx drivers installed, but 3d wasn't working, so I'm removing everything and reinstalling, only I messed something up with a symbolic link and ldconfig somewhere in there.
[11:14] <hmrocha> will emacs21 be available as an ubuntu package compiled with gtk2?
[11:15] <odla> tolstoy: sudo aptitude -f purge
[11:15] <hmrocha> in dapper maybe
[11:15] <Evilkiksass> will ubuntu be very slow runing on pc-100 mem?
[11:15] <colm> Evilkiksass, nope, it runs just fine on a P2 300 with PC-100 mem
[11:16] <tolstoy> odla, still doesn't work.  seems that if the postremove script tanks, the whole thing tanks.
[11:16] <Evilkiksass> colm: great then my comp should be good enough
[11:16] <colm> Evilkiksass, how much mem?
[11:16] <Tsukoharu> um
[11:16] <Tsukoharu> question
[11:16] <Evilkiksass> or rather the question should really be do i run 512mbs at pc100 or 389mbs at pc133
[11:16] <Artanis> How are you guys doing
[11:17] <Tsukoharu> colm um it works on my computer at home not on my laptop
[11:17] <colm> Tsukoharu, ok, so it's not the cd...  have you ever booted any other CD on the laptop?
[11:17] <Pablo> I have a pcmcia to compact flash adapter... any advice on how to make that hotpluggable?
[11:17] <Tsukoharu> colm yes before ubuntu, i used the ubuntu cd to install, had a few cd games and such
[11:18] <colm> Evilkiksass, I'd go for 512 slower over 389 slightly faster, but you'd need to benchmark your usual apps to find out the true answer
[11:18] <pedrocr> anyone know what I need to do to get a rt2500 USB wifi card to work?
[11:18] <pedrocr> the module seems to be loaded but I don't get an interface
[11:18] <Pablo> whats the buss speed of the motheboard Evilkiksass
[11:18] <amphi> pedrocr: what does sudo ifconfig -a show? rt2500 driver creates ra0 iface IIRC
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone ever heard of a file extension .p65 ??
[11:19] <Evilkiksass> pablo: i wish i knew :-p its just a junk mobo i found in the garage with a p3 inside and i decided i could use it to start learning linux
[11:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: is that a pagebreaker file?
[11:19] <tolstoy> odla, well, find the deb in /var/cache/apt, dpkg -i'd it, then removed it, so things now are back to some version of normal.
[11:19] <Pablo> what is the buss speed on the processor Evilkiksass ?
[11:19] <janno> Is there anyway how i can connect with comp wich uses ubunt and isn't in my network? We are using router. I'd like o accses shared files
[11:19] <Evilkiksass> pablo: no idea atm, i know its a p3 1ghz
[11:19] <Tsukoharu> colm is there any way to access the cd instead of booting it?
[11:19] <Pablo> Evilkiksass, it will say like PIII 1000/133/256
[11:20] <Pablo> or
[11:20] <pedrocr> amphi: only eth0, sit0 and lo
[11:20] <Pablo> Evilkiksass, it will say like PIII 1000/100/256
[11:20] <colm> Evilkiksass, look for ANY writing on the mobo and try a google (other search engines exist...) you never know what you turn up.  Only once I've not found info this way
[11:20] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, http://filext.com/ is sometimes right :)
[11:20] <Evilkiksass> pablo: im at work, cant check that till i get home
[11:20] <Pablo> ok
[11:20] <colm> Tsukoharu, what is on the machine right now?
[11:20] <amphi> tonyyarusso: or file foo.p65 or whatever it is
[11:20] <Pablo> I have a pcmcia to compact flash adapter... any advice on how to make that hotpluggable?
[11:20] <amphi> pedrocr: lsmod shows the module loaded?
[11:20] <Stormx2> DarkIce: TcpSocket.cpp:283: recv error [104] 
[11:20] <Stormx2>  <-- Any ideas?
[11:20] <pedrocr> amphi: yes
[11:21] <dyrne> janno: i like sshfs but the computer you are connecting to will need to be running openssh-server
[11:21] <amphi> pedrocr: I assume eth0 is a wired nic?
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Says it's a Microsoft Office document...
[11:21] <amphi> tonyyarusso: there ya go, nice and precise ;)
[11:21] <pedrocr> amphi: yep
[11:21] <Hanzo__> im just thinkig wether to keep XP or switch to ubuntu.
[11:21] <bobbyd> hi
[11:21] <Pablo> hi
[11:21] <Tsukoharu> colm ultimate boot disk
[11:21] <amphi> pedrocr: is it a cardbus card (the wifi)?
[11:22] <pedrocr> amphi: no, USB
[11:22] <Evilkiksass> hanzo: have you ever useb any linux distribution before?
[11:22] <Stormx2> Any ideas? :) DarkIce: TcpSocket.cpp:283: recv error [104]  when running "Darkice", a streaming media broadcaster (sends data to a server, server relays)
[11:22] <Hanzo__> Evilkiksass: no
[11:22] <amphi> pedrocr: ah... I have no experience with such a chimaera ;)
[11:22] <Tsukoharu> colm im trying to format my laptop for windows and icant if i cant get cds to work
[11:22] <pedrocr> amphi: me neither
[11:22] <Hanzo__> not for any length of time
[11:22] <colm> Tsukoharu, erm, try a windows installer cd?
[11:23] <Evilkiksass> hanzo: and do you plan to use this computer for gaming or work? or just jerking off
[11:23] <Tsukoharu> colm same thing... flashing cursor
[11:23] <Stormx2> Pretty pretty please!
[11:23] <colm> Tsukoharu, perhaps your CD drive is deas or needs a clean
[11:23] <bobbyd> does anyone know how to allow email links to automatically open up thunderbird from a firefox browser?
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi, nickrud: Well, that still doesn't tell me how to open it.  (btw, Nautilus says "OLE2 compound document storage")
[11:23] <newbuntie> which one should I install flashplayer-mozilla or flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:23] <amphi> pedrocr: if you plug it in with the module loaded, do you see anything useful? tail -f /var/log/syslog is useful for that
[11:23] <Tsukoharu> colm it isnt. it worked right before i installed ubuntu so i know its causing the problem... it doesnt let my sound work, or anything
[11:23] <sky_> perhapps u shud buy a new one
[11:23] <pedrocr> " Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) now supports the RT2500 Out of the box. You should be able to plug in the card, go to menu System->Administration->Networking and see an entry for ra0 wireless card in the list."
[11:23] <amphi> tonyyarusso: try openoffice I guess
[11:24] <Hanzo__> Evilkiksass: going to porn sites/dling data are my uses.
[11:24] <pedrocr> amphi: I'll try again
[11:24] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, if it's a pagemaker file, you're probably out of luck.
[11:24] <sky_> install universal
[11:24] <colm> Tsukoharu, I don't really understand what your problem is...  can you give more info?
[11:24] <Evilkiksass> hanzo: then yeah you should switch to linux
[11:24] <amphi> pedrocr: there is probably an invisible disclaimer WRT to usb ;)
[11:24] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, well, I mean I don't know one, but I've never had to look either
[11:24] <Tsukoharu> amphi is there any way to browse my cd drive through a module
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: That's what filext.com said.
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> amphi: The question being with what filter in the filter selector?
[11:24] <amphi> Tsukoharu: what do you mean?
[11:24] <Hanzo__> does ubuntu have good uptime
[11:24] <Evilkiksass> hanzo: i would sugest having a second pc with xp on it in case something goes wrong
[11:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: I have no idea
[11:24] <Tsukoharu> amphi browse a cd through linux
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> amphi: All right.
[11:25] <amphi> Tsukoharu: just mount it
[11:25] <hollywoodb> bobbyd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22333
[11:25] <Tsukoharu> amphi nothing happens lol
[11:25] <amphi> Tsukoharu: huh?
[11:25] <Evilkiksass> hanzo: what do you mean by uptime?
[11:25] <Tsukoharu> amphi i mount the disc, nothing happens
[11:25] <amphi> Tsukoharu: the cd / should appear in /media/cdrom0 or somewhere like that
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: If it is indeed a pagemaker file as it appears, what should I tell the author to do so that I can open it?  (They are someone I have contact with and some control over for this aspect anyway.)
[11:25] <nickrud> Hanzo__, people have months uptime
[11:26] <naetrick> Ok, I'm going to try just building everything into the kernel... and then piece by piece compiling as modules, to see what the culprit is
[11:26] <pedrocr> amphi: there's some read error or something, got to check on that but tomorrow
[11:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: if you don't need to edit it, perhaps they could export to ps
[11:26] <pedrocr> amphi: thanks for the help
[11:26] <Tsukoharu> amphi how can i get to that directory, like how do i do that lol i know crap about ubuntu commands and dont plan on learnin them
[11:26] <naetrick> Well, not everything, but everything that was a module
[11:26] <Hanzo__> how long it can stay up for without crashing, also is ubuntu quite fast?
[11:26] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, pdf if you need it now. They could tell you some other formats they can use.
[11:26] <pedrocr> amphi: " rt2500 driver is for pci/pcmcia cards. If you have a usb device you will need the rt2570 driver.", stupid me
[11:26] <amphi> Tsukoharu: if you don't plan on learning anything, I can't help you
[11:26] <amphi> pedrocr: ah
[11:27] <rublind> amphi: can I pm you?
[11:27] <colm> Tsukoharu, try typing 'help'
[11:27] <amphi> pedrocr: thanks for the heads up
[11:27] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, editing, I doubt. I used pagemaker a very long time ago, I think it's pretty proprietary
[11:27] <naetrick> Hanzo__: It's not ubuntu that will be fast or slow: It depends on the apps you run, your kernel version/settings, window manager, CPU speed, RAM, etc :)
[11:27] <amphi> rublind: sure
[11:27] <Hanzo__> ok
[11:27] <Tsukoharu> amphi no as in i dont want to spend hours learning commands for something im gettin rid of :(
[11:27] <Hanzo__> g2g now.
[11:27] <Tsukoharu> amphi im very limited to time
[11:28] <pedrocr> amphi: and that one doesn't seem to be in the ubuntu kernel for some reason
[11:28] <Tsukoharu> amphi i typed in help and i got a whole bunch of wierd stuff
[11:28] <paxmaster> is there a opensource version of navicat
[11:28] <colm> Tsukoharu, try 'help cd'
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Wow that's dumb.  Okay, I'll get on their case about it and see what we can come up with.
[11:29] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, crack that whip ;)
[11:29] <as_284> heellosllo
[11:29] <Stormx2> I put my problem on ubuntuforums.org... if somebody could take a look... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=730057 =) Sex comes as standard for all those who help out
[11:29] <as_284> does anyone know how to convert maildir mails to mbox?
[11:30] <amphi> pedrocr: looks like you get to build it from source then ;(
[11:30] <IdleOne> how do i get ubuntu to recognise my cd burner?
[11:30] <as_284> i am migrating from kmail to Evolution
[11:30] <disastorm> hey
[11:30] <adapt> oi oi
[11:30] <Tsukoharu> amphi ok im in the cd rom drive bt when i press dir nothing shows up.
[11:30] <as_284> anyone?
[11:31] <disastorm> has anyone here played Ragnarok on Linux?
[11:31] <Tsukoharu> it just doesnt accept the command
[11:31] <paxmaster> re: is there a opensource version of navicat
[11:32] <disastorm> hey
[11:32] <pedrocr> what do I need to install to get "/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build"?
[11:32] <sky_> Tsukoharu i suggest reinstalling linux
[11:32] <Tsukoharu> sky_ i dont want to! lol i want it gone lol
[11:32] <bobbyd> hollywoodb, thanks thats cool
[11:32] <nickrud> Stormx2, maybe someone who knows darkice might drop through here, but finding a darkice channel could get you quicker help
[11:32] <Tsukoharu> sky_ im trying to get rid of it i cant if the cdrom drive isnt working
[11:32] <dyrne> Tsukoharu: are you trying to list contents in a directory?
[11:32] <Tsukoharu> dyrne yes -_-
[11:33] <adapt> anyone have know where i can snag good wmaker or icewm themes?
[11:33] <dyrne> ls
[11:33] <dyrne> Tsukoharu: dir == ls in linux
[11:33] <sky_> than delete partions first and than reinstall system drivers
[11:33] <Tsukoharu> sky_ cant if i dont know whats wrong with my cd drive
[11:33] <Tsukoharu> sky_ no cd is loading
[11:33] <IdleOne> how do i get ubuntu to recognise my cd burner?
[11:34] <MisterN> n8
[11:34] <Tsukoharu> dyrne still nothing lol
[11:34] <pedrocr> anyone know?
[11:34] <dyrne> Tsukoharu: are you in /media/cdrom0 directory?
[11:34] <Tsukoharu> dyrne positive i am
[11:34] <pedrocr> is "linux-source-2.6.12" enough?
[11:34] <nickrud> adapt, themes.org has some
[11:34] <Tsukoharu> dyrne and in the bios it says my cd rom drive is working fine
[11:35] <IdleOne> pedrocr:  that is latest kernel I believe
[11:35] <sky_> Tsukoharu does ur system detect the cdrom drive?
[11:35] <pedrocr> IdleOne: but will it do as a build/ directory=
[11:35] <pedrocr> IdleOne: ?
[11:35] <Tsukoharu> sky_ how can i check?
[11:35] <dyrne> Tsukoharu: most cases as soon as you insert a cd it will show up on your 'desktop' as an icon
[11:35] <IdleOne> pedrocr:  I dont know :|
[11:35] <disastorm> hey
[11:35] <amphi> pedrocr: you could make the symlink, but it will expect to find configured kernel source
[11:35] <Tsukoharu> dyrne isnt doing it
[11:35] <disastorm> does anyone know how to get RO to work on linux?
[11:36] <pedrocr> amphi: so there's no way to compile a new module against the ubuntu kernel?
[11:36] <sky_> ill check
[11:36] <sagarp> i want to be able to right click the desktop and get an app menu (like xfce) but i want ot keep running gnome, and i like metacity...so is there some alternative wm? i tried using xfwm but the menu on the desktop didnt appear
[11:36] <amphi> pedrocr: you'll need to install the source package for your kernel
[11:37] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, to show where you are on filesystem when you are in a terminal the command is >>pwd <<
[11:37] <nickrud> sagarp, you could try sawfish, that was the gnome wm before metacity.
[11:37] <colm> Tsukoharu, lets go back to the beginning... what is your problem?
[11:38] <sagarp> actually i didnt like sawfish =P
[11:38] <sky_> lmao
[11:38] <pedrocr> amphi: maybe linux-headers-2.6.12-10 will do
[11:38] <amphi> pedrocr: _maybe_, but I doubt it
 I did, but it got old
[11:39] <pedrocr> amphi: I'm saying that because that's what "module-assistant prepare" installs
[11:39] <IdleOne> how do i get ubuntu to recognise my cd rom / burner ?
[11:39] <pedrocr> amphi: that and "linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386"
[11:39] <taylor_> is synaptic donloading slow for anyone else?
[11:40] <nickrud> sagarp, you can run gnome-settings-deamon inside any desktop or wm, and get the important bits of gnome (I'm pretty sure)
[11:40] <zebraFusion> how can I remove the past kernel versions from my system.
[11:40] <gnu2it2> make menuconfig complains wanting gcc-4.3,, i have 4.0.2. do i need a compat or install older version of gcc, or what ?
[11:40] <pedrocr> amphi: yep, seems to work
[11:40] <nickrud> gnu2it2, you mean 3.4, right?
[11:40] <sky_> zebra use a bitorrent to get programms
[11:41] <gnu2it2> sorry,, wanting 3.4
[11:41] <nickrud> gnu2it2, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[11:41] <pedrocr> amphi: it apparently works
[11:41] <zebraFusion> how can I remove the past kernel versions from my system.
[11:41] <nickrud> gnu2it2, menuconfig will be able to find that
[11:41] <pedrocr> I'll have to copy the driver over to try it
[11:41] <shrike_00> anyone here tried running shareaza in wine?
[11:41] <pedrocr> I've compiled it in a different box
[11:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8608
[11:43] <Tsukoharu> anyone know how i can check to see if my cd rom drive is working properly?
[11:43] <Tsukoharu> mabe somethings missing... idk
[11:43] <sky_> use linux command
[11:44] <hmrocha> hello
[11:44] <Tsukoharu> sky_ which?
[11:44] <hmrocha> i try running wine but i only get a "Killed" output
[11:44] <cute_bettong> anyone here play nwn in linux?
[11:44] <pawel> nickrud: have a look in the bin. ;>
[11:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> hmrocha:  see the log...
[11:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> hmrocha:  what app?
[11:44] <IdleOne> I tried burning a iso using k3b it tells me there is no recording device installed. how can I fix it?
[11:44] <pawel> nickrud: or try museum. ;>
[11:44] <william> yay got wpa working
[11:44] <nickrud> pawel :)
[11:45] <hmrocha> Aragorn_Guardian: no app, i just type "wine" and i get the word "Killed"
[11:45] <cute_bettong> does anyone here play neverwinter nights?
[11:45] <nickrud> cute_bettong, yeah, I have
[11:45] <froookyo> wehen i click: SYSTEM SETTING then NETWORK PROPERTIES the is a text : " Click the "Administrator Mode"-button to allow modifications." but hell... there is no ADMINISTRATOR MODE -button? please help
[11:45] <sky_> Tsukoharu use terminal to detect drivers
[11:45] <hmrocha> Aragorn_Guardian: winecfg shows killed too
[11:45] <cute_bettong> ok well for those of you that play your all welcome to join my server ^_^
[11:45] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, do this command and then give a yes or no answer to the question is there output from the command >>cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom <<
[11:45] <cute_bettong> and play if you want to
[11:45] <zebraFusion> how can I remove the past kernel versions from my system.
[11:45] <pawel> Tsukoharu: copy some files over? ;>
[11:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> well...try remove your .wine directory...and install wine again...
[11:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> it will create everything you need...in a directory, .wine, there will be fake_windows,etc
[11:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> wine works fine
 zebra use a bitorrent to get programms
[11:46] <Artanis> do I have to burn the ubuntu iso with anything special?  I burned it with windows burning program and it wont work
[11:46] <bimberi> zebraFusion: uninstall them in synaptic (seach for linux-image)
[11:47] <zebraFusion> What in the world does that mean?
[11:47] <zebraFusion> bimberi, thanks.
[11:47] <disastorm> hey guys
[11:47] <disastorm> have any of u played ragnarok
[11:47] <sky_> yes get a programm there
[11:47] <sky_> isohunt
[11:47] <Artanis> grrrr
[11:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> look inside for the drives, links to c:, etc...
[11:47] <nickrud> Arafangion, are you sure you burned it as an iso
[11:47] <hmrocha> Aragorn_Guardian: i already did that
[11:47] <bimberi> zebraFusion: yw :)
[11:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> bad...:/
[11:47] <zebraFusion> use a bittorrent to get programs? ... Do you even use Linux?
[11:47] <nickrud> Arafangion, sorry, bad completion
[11:47] <hmrocha> Aragorn_Guardian: i'm using dapper, maybe that's the problem
[11:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> so ...see the log...and post in google or in wine maybe...
[11:47] <IdleOne> zebraFusion:  ignore that read what bimberi  said
[11:48] <nickrud> Artanis, are you sure you burned it as an iso, not a data disk?
[11:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> dapper, i dont know...what is?
[11:48] <sky_> well i thought seing as u are asking a simple question it would require a simple answer
[11:48] <IdleOne> I tried burning a iso using k3b it tells me there is no recording device installed. how can I fix it?
[11:48] <Artanis> nickrud I just used the Windows burner thing
[11:48] <hmrocha> Aragorn_Guardian: the next ubuntu version, current is breezy
[11:48] <Tsukoharu> ompaul ok i typed it in, i got some thing saying /dev/hdc          /media/cdrom0    udf,iso9660, ro, user, noauto 0            0
[11:48] <william> what are the plugins needed to play videos inside firefox?
[11:48] <Artanis> nickrud can you suggest a good program?
[11:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...
[11:48] <disastorm> have any of u played ragnarok on linxu
[11:48] <Artanis> nickrud preferrably free
[11:48] <dyrne> Aragorn_Guardian: select burn image not data cd
[11:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> could be...
[11:48] <nickrud> Artanis, try mounting the disk in windows; if all you see is one file, you burned it wrong
[11:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> dyrne:  ?? me???
[11:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> eheheh
[11:49] <Artanis> nickrud all i see is one file  :-P
[11:49] <Donvinzk> how can I have all kde in french, I have made an installation in english
[11:49] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, so your computer sees it, what do you want to do with that CD Rom drive?
[11:49] <Tsukoharu> ompaul make it work lol
[11:49] <Tsukoharu> ompaul no cd is booting
[11:49] <dyrne> Aragorn_Guardian: ach, sorry :)
[11:49] <nickrud> Artanis, then choose iso when you burn; I don't use windows so I have no Idea if windows can do that, or what's free
[11:49] <sky_> lmao
[11:49] <froookyo> PLEASE HELP, i hace thoughts of suicide............wehen i click: SYSTEM SETTING then NETWORK PROPERTIES the is a text : " Click the "Administrator Mode"-button to allow modifications." but hell... there is no ADMINISTRATOR MODE -button? please help
[11:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> hehheheh..ok
[11:49] <Artanis> nickrud ok thanks for your help
[11:50] <nickrud> Artanis, try davecentral.com
[11:50] <Artanis> nickrud thanks
[11:50] <nickrud> Artanis, I used to use that one a lot for free stuff
[11:50] <gtdawg> Hi, I have a question about Aptitude. Is there a way to clear the list of pending items to be added and/or deleted? Thanks.
[11:50] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, are you trying to write a cd on a ubuntu system?
[11:50] <Tsukoharu> ompaul more the total opposite, im trying to make it read the cds
[11:51] <Tsukoharu> ompaul no cd is being read
[11:51] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, so put a CD in and tell me when it is in, also tell me if it is music or data
[11:51] <Tsukoharu> ompaul cd is in, data disc
[11:51] <sky_> okok /media/cdrom0/devcpp-4.9.9.2_setup.exe
[11:51] <sky_>  what is the vcd
[11:51] <sky_> cd*
[11:52] <sky_> Tsukoharu  i maent what is the cd u r inserting?
[11:53] <Tsukoharu> sky_ its data
[11:53] <Tsukoharu> sky_ pure data
[11:53] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, before you go any further, check your desktop and see if there is an icon on the desktop for the CD if so just double click it, if not type this >>mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0<< and tell me did an icon pop up on your desktop
[11:53] <froookyo> <--- DEAD
[11:54] <sky_> u said u dont want linux are u wanting to install windows?
[11:54] <dhalgren> hi! In terms of laptops: does anyone know if booting with the live cd gives an adequate idea of whether Breezy willl install on the machine? Or do I have to actually install for this?
[11:54] <Seveas> froookyo, exxagerating and over-using caps result in people less willing and likely to help...
[11:54] <Tsukoharu> says cd is write protected
[11:54] <sky_>  lol
[11:55] <alex__> hi!
[11:55] <Seveas> dhalgren, the live cd wil give quite a good impression, but the installed system is always faster and sometimes can offer you more
[11:55] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, when does it say this?
[11:55] <dhalgren> Seveas: thanks, I thought that was the case. Just wanted to check first. Have a good day/night :-)  Bye
[11:56] <dhalgren> \leave
[11:56] <Tsukoharu> ompaul after i  type in the mount command it says mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:56] <Seveas> dhalgren, /part :)
[11:56] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, well you really did not want to write to it :)
[11:56] <sky_> lol :P
[11:56] <redxx> what can I use to edit my sources.list file? (via shell)
[11:56] <pinita> hello
[11:57] <nickrud> redxx, nano
[11:57] <redxx> thank you nick :D
[11:57] <Stormx2> I don't want to have to reboot into windows just to stream to shoutcast!!
[11:57] <william> sudu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, do this >>cd /media/cdrom0<< and go for it
[11:57] <pinita> i instaled NVU on ubuntu, I just have it over here =http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8613 , I want to put it in the menu, what ca I do?
[11:58] <william> red :)
[11:58] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, you have access to the drive
[11:58] <pinita> can i do
[11:58] <IdleOne> who use gnomebaker?
[11:58] <sky_> Tsukoharu what the hell r u trying to do anyways?
[11:58] <pinita> i have gnobaker
[11:59] <IdleOne> how do I burn an iso and make disc bootable?
[11:59] <pinita> I try to get on the menu
[11:59] <newbuntie> can someone tell me why the builtin mechanism for installing missing plugins doesn't work in firefox? is it a permissions issue?
[11:59] <william> in ubuntu or windows?
[11:59] <jenda> IdleOne: gimme a sec
[11:59] <IdleOne> ok jenda
[11:59] <Tsukoharu> sky_ heres the story; basically im getting rid of linux because i have no access to sound, unfixable, now i want windows back so i can listen to it, but im having trouble using the discs at startup, all they lead to is a blinking cursor.
[11:59] <william> idle, in windows or ubuntu?
[11:59] <amphi> IdleOne: if the iso is bootable, just do cdrecord -v foo.iso (assuming cdrecord is set up)
[11:59] <jenda> IdleOne: It soys burn CD image at the top of the window :) click that.
[11:59] <amphi> jenda: ;)