[12:08] bah what a sucky day [12:08] --> sleep === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee curses the network manager for not properly saving her settings === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying__ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheK [n=KaiL@p548F5F20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] no OSD for fn+Fx [04:36] no OSD for fn+Fx in dapper on ppc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.154] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] Riddell : PING !!!!!!!!! [07:46] hehe, that's an eager ping viviersf === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:56] oh yeas [07:56] i need docs\ [07:56] los of docs [07:56] lol [07:56] and mr kde must help me here [07:56] i see... [07:56] "why is kde superioir to gnome" === mornfall bounces [08:20] where's everyone [08:20] asleep? [08:20] bah [08:20] pathetic, i know [08:20] what were you after? [08:21] nothing in particular... possibly status on adept upload [08:22] but considering Riddell got around 2am to d/l it it's not very far === mornfall <-- tired and not particularly motivated today [08:23] ah great [08:24] i got a new version of adept today in the repos, if that helps [08:24] hmm, which one would that be? [08:24] if it's what i gave him last night he's quick === mornfall visits the dapper chroot [08:25] weee [08:26] oooh, i'm probably not on the kati^Wsoyuz whitelist so i don't get mail [08:26] hmm, no it's not it [08:27] or is it [08:27] no it's not [08:27] feb 8 === mornfall sighs at launchpad [08:29] it's in, it's just my mirror lagging [08:29] \o/ === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] hmm, still everyone in limbo? [10:49] mornfall: how do you mean? [10:50] just wondering if anyone woke up in the meantime :-) [10:52] well /me is trying to get X working again on his main machine after upgrading to dapper :( [10:52] does launchpad support escalating bugs to say bugs.kde.org? [10:52] and, what one needs to do to be able to close the bugs === Huahua [n=hua@221.172.50.197] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:16] mornfall: you can't automatically send them to bugs.kde.org unfortunatly, but you can mark them to watch an entry on bugs.kde.org [11:16] mornfall: click on the ubuntu notice, can you close the bug there? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:33] Riddell, is dekorator in your kde ? === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-13.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:42] gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, *kills launchpad* [12:42] Sorry, Launchpad took too long to process your request. [12:52] =) [01:07] viviersf: I've never heard of it [01:08] Riddell: it's a kwin extension iirc [01:09] dekorator is kwin style hack iirc === ubijtsa2 is using it [01:10] allow youcreate kwin styles easily, but it's uff so ugly code === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:33] :( [01:33] means there is no such package === theball [n=nobody@perseus.mpcu.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === theball [n=nobody@perseus.mpcu.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["I] [01:35] viviersf: building it yourself is doable.. [01:35] i know that [01:35] wouldve been easier [01:35] thats all [01:35] da, I know :) === TheK is now known as KaiL === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] more work for cmj === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:28] hi everyone. [02:28] Riddell: I don't have the rights to post on the kubuntu-devel ML.... [02:28] Hi there. [02:32] Riddell: works, sorry, Sender address problem..... [02:35] that list was getting so much spam I had to set it to just reject anyone not on it === jpatrick [n=patrick@125.Red-81-38-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] moins [02:43] Riddell: isn't the ML server using sbl filtering ? it is so light and efficient ! [02:46] no idea. I really really wish mailman would obfuscate the addresses on its listinfo pages though [02:47] according to my tests, sbl filtering gives about 99% of spam rejected... and it doesn't use any resources, cause it is based on dns ;) [02:47] Tonio_: who do I ask for my @ubuntu.com address? [02:48] lol Tonio_ [02:49] Tonio_: does it cost money? [02:49] Riddell: nope, it is a free service ;) [02:51] Riddell, superkaramba package on dapper is broken [02:51] :( [02:54] viviersf: works for me, what's wrong with it? [02:55] it doesnt want to install [02:55] :) [02:57] is there an error message? [03:05] ok what happened to the topic at #kubuntu ? [03:06] good question, any idea what it was before? [03:06] I'm trying to get that from my logs [03:08] got it [03:08] [07:14:22] *** Red_Herring sets the channel topic to "!". === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:09] he's not there anymore [03:09] but there was loads of experimenting with !blahblah stuff around that time [03:09] Riddell: er === Mez whistles [03:10] apparently the topic was not protected.. [03:10] KDE 3.5.1 looking good for backport [03:10] Mez: hmm? [03:10] Mez: oh, rocking! [03:10] ubijtsa2: they are for most of the channels... :/ [03:10] Mez: now, are backports actually happening with soyuz? [03:11] Riddell, no [03:11] lol [03:11] ah, foo [03:11] jpatrick: I gather that goes for #kubuntu as well now? :) [03:11] yes :) [03:11] I don't like protected topics [03:12] Riddell: have a bot that allows it to be changed [03:12] arcnet's #linux has that iirc [03:12] how would that stop abuse? [03:13] 1 abuse in almost a year is not a bad rate really :) [03:13] they mostly abuse ubotu [03:13] Riddell: 'cause the bot can have an ACL for who can change it :) [03:14] that ACL can be much more liberal than who gets chanop for example [03:14] is there any repository with the test version of Kopete ? [03:23] JRe: http://andre.duffeck.de/kopete/ [03:23] use at own risk, not my packages [03:23] blame problems on Tm_T :) [03:23] haha [03:27] Riddell: who do I ask for my member thingys? (can't find anything on it anywhere (except the cloak)) [03:28] what thingys? [03:28] email, etc [03:29] you're already in https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers [03:29] yes [03:29] e-mail is probably handled by elmo or znarl, probably an e-mail to rt is the correct thing to do [03:29] rt? [03:30] rt@admin.canonical.com [03:30] automated support ticket thingy [03:30] but check with other motu first if that is the right thing [03:32] ok [03:37] bah todays live cd dosen't even get X working on my machine [03:38] Riddell: which backend you plan to use by default with dapper's Amarok ? [03:39] Riddell: GStreamer ? [03:39] xine [03:39] Riddell: did you notice that xine does not support kio-slaves ? [03:39] yeah [03:40] Riddell: arg it's a nightmare [03:40] Riddell: every time you'll use media:/ or system:/ it's impossible to read [03:41] Riddell: will see with ervin if I can do something about that [03:41] but it does work with gstreamer? [03:41] yes [03:41] Riddell: on #amarok they say that yes [03:42] Riddell: but I don't like gstreamer so much [03:42] gstreamer isn't an option alas, no 0.10 plugin yet [03:42] k [03:43] Riddell: ok I will see if I can work with ervin and Amarok's developper to fix this before release of 1.4 [03:43] that would be really good if you did [03:43] kaffeine needs it too :( === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:43] Riddell: yes right [03:46] woo [03:46] Riddell at lugradio live!!! === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:50] again [03:51] Riddell: the amaroK 1.4beta1 announcement mentions a breezy repo but there is none [03:52] plus it say "See the Amarok 1.3.8 release page" [03:52] doh [03:52] you could never tell I just copied that page from the last amarok release :) [03:52] fixed [03:53] Riddell: do you know if http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ is obsolete now? [03:53] no breezy pkgs.... [03:53] raphink: for new build logs yes [03:54] jpatrick: sadly not === enfact [n=enfact@host-64-65-204-175.alb.choiceone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:02] Riddell: thanks =) [04:05] hello enfact [04:06] hey riddel [04:06] and everybody [04:06] l [04:06] o [04:09] Riddell: what do you think of klik? [04:14] been working on a lot of gui designs [04:14] http://www.kde-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=enfact [04:16] enfact: nice [04:16] raphink: nice idea, not convinced the security precautions are good enough yet [04:16] Riddell: ok [04:17] Riddell: do you think it interesting to package it ? [04:17] ;) [04:17] Riddell: so that the protocol can be installed through a package [04:19] hmm [04:20] raphink: I suppose that would be ok [04:20] ok [04:20] I'm not sure there's a debian package yet [04:20] raphink: could you check with mvo first to ask if it's sane to do such a thing [04:20] I think it could be interesting [04:20] for all these people who always want to check the latest version of apps without having to use dev distro [04:21] mvo? [04:22] raphink: mvo looks after the package management stuff in ubuntu [04:22] #ubuntu-devel [04:22] he'd be more likely to know if there's any reason not to package it [04:23] sebas: you have 4 students working on KDE? [04:24] Riddell: Claire has two working on high-tech marketing, and two will visit us on friday to talk about a code verification project that they've got to do. [04:25] We'll recommend them KDE, of course. [04:25] sebas: don't recomend, FORCE! ] ;= [04:27] FORCE? [04:27] --force=all === sebas doesn't get it. [04:28] Oooh..... :) [04:28] Nevermind. [04:28] 'recommend' is with the help of a 'no grade' [04:28] jpatrick: --force=all --kill-resist [04:28] Tm_T: rofl.... [04:30] Tm_T: --force=all --kill-resist --(de)bug=full [04:30] ok, I've finished [04:33] Thx. :) [04:34] muhah [04:34] jpatrick: aye aye sir! === jpatrick considers going to TechBoard tonight === ubijtsa_ [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] JRe: a 'media2path [-d] URL # -d: return path to device instead of path dir/file' would be handy too ;) [05:04] allee: updated kmplayer in REVU [05:08] jpatrick: will have a look later === ubijtsa__ [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:23] Riddell: I talked with mvo and with a klik dev [05:24] Riddell: I'll add klik to the Kubuntu meeting agenda and I'll try to get the dev to the meeting so they can talk about it more :) [05:25] raphink: what did mvo say? [05:25] Riddell: mvo is interested by the concept though, and wants to keep informed :) [05:25] the main point for me will be to try to get upstream release a proper tarball with the scripts [05:25] since dapper uses kernel 2.6.15 that has FUSE activated by default [05:26] there is no trick required in /etc/fstab to get klik work on dapper [05:26] so it's nicer [05:26] hmm, interesting [05:26] so there's just a bunch of scripts and .desktop and .protocol to install in the right places [05:27] upstream say they have to modify the scripts to use FUSE though [05:27] and that was done in KANOTIX [05:27] that uses klik by default [05:27] klik is a great idea, I'm just worried about the security issues [05:28] mhm [05:28] Riddell: well if you think about it, see how breezy users behave right now [05:28] they use backports all the time, or unofficial packages found on KDE-Apps [05:28] or even share tricks on how to install stuff the most horrible way possible [05:29] klik would still be much better than most of these options imo [05:29] furthermore, I think quite a lot of Kubuntu users have begun to use it [05:29] or even Ubuntu users [05:29] since it works on gnome, too [05:30] and have set these dirty /etc/fstab stuff [05:30] to have it work properly [05:30] yep [05:30] I think providing it officially as a system-wide deb install would be cleaner than having people use it unofficially [05:30] at least we'll know how it's installed ;) [05:31] backports are fine since that goes through various sane people, but stuff like easykubuntu could do anything to your system [05:31] yes [05:32] I think it is a fact that users want a stable system while being able to test new features all the time [05:32] and having them use chroots is not the best idea ;) [05:38] Riddell, it goes through various sane people? It goes through me and elmo usually [05:38] you're calling me and elmo sane? [05:39] raphink: FYI: new simias/libflaim/log4net packages uploaded to revu [05:39] soon to be followed by ifolder once I have the B-D's sorted [05:39] Mez: lol [05:39] Mez: well it goes through whoever packaged it in the first place and the MOTU reviewers too [05:39] having an official easyubuntu would be great [05:40] "official" [05:40] Riddell, ah ... [05:40] lol [05:40] I thought you were calling me sane for a moment [05:40] enfact: presumably that would just be a kubuntu-not-really-free meta-package that people could install [05:41] Mez: well you can't tamper with the package so you don't figure in the equation :) [05:41] Riddell, I can :D if it's in universe === jpatrick can't with any [05:42] yep, and first time we spot you doing anything malitious we kick you out === tinin [n=tinin@21.Red-83-41-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:45] hehe [05:45] hello tinin [05:46] hello [05:46] new here [05:46] tinin: going to become an elite kubuntu developer? [05:46] some day [05:46] Riddell: Am I one? :) [05:46] jpatrick: certainly are [05:46] :o [05:46] I'm going to TechBoard [05:47] i only was trying to compile amarok [05:47] and i cant't , so i'll never be developer [05:48] Riddell: is there someone I can find expresso? [05:48] so here will i be able to talk to Mark Shuttelworth? [05:48] if he's around [05:48] XD [05:49] i'll blame on him personally! [05:49] jpatrick: not yet, it doesn't do anything useful yet, I'll let you know as soon as it does :) [05:49] tinin: he's touring asia at the moment and not on IRC much [05:50] okay then [05:50] thanx, i'm going to sleep a spanish siesta! === tinin [n=tinin@21.Red-83-41-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [05:51] Riddell: some people upload packages universe, when they're not MOTU's - why is that so? [05:51] jpatrick: how are you defining MOTU? [05:51] only members of the ubuntu-dev team can upload [05:51] someone that can upload to universe / multiverse [05:52] it's also possible for a MOTU to upload a package with someone else's name in the changelog though [05:52] i've seen freeflying upload by his name [05:52] nah, that'll be me or someone else uploading with his name in the changelog [05:52] and some others (seth, ...) [05:53] ah right [05:53] debuild -kfoo@bar.com where foo@bar.com is the address to sign with [05:53] I tend not to do that though since then the output from uploads often goes to /dev/null [05:58] jpatrick: kmplayer-base better use shlibs:Depends # current [05:58] good point [05:58] anything else? :) [05:58] '|' stuff is Koos hackish way to the install in sid and sarge without source change [05:59] jpatrick: did you search for -i copyright. I doubt Koos is only copyright holder === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-003-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:00] jpatrick: yeah and the gstreamer-0.8 dependency I mention in my e-mail is still there. Hmmm Riddel isn't either gst 0.10 required for dapper or even Xine [06:00] allee: FBFS with gst10 [06:01] it tried pbuilding it with it [06:01] jpatrick: I'm not surpriced otherwise pkg name would not have changed like s/0.8/0.10/ :) [06:04] allee: he's the only one with the copyright [06:04] Depends: kmplayer-app (= ${Source-Version}). Docu should only suggest the app and remove = sourceversion is [06:06] oppss, forgot that [06:07] jpatrick: never trust upstream ;) src/pref.*: * Copyright (C) 2003 Joonas Koivunen [06:08] aha! [06:09] allee: maybe the patch should make it use xine by default? [06:10] jpatrick: maybe if gstreamer 0.8 is a no-no for dapper then yes. Let wait for 'last work' from Riddell :) [06:10] hmm? [06:11] no gstreamer 0.8 in main, universe is fine [06:11] kmplayer => universe [06:12] Riddell: prefered default engine xine or gst 0.8 ? [06:12] + of for kmplayer === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:17] allee: whichever works better :) [06:17] jpatrick: I would like to suggest to add Koos at the top of debian/copyright. [06:18] Riddell: heh, maybe jpatrick know what's 'better' ;) [06:19] allee: "This package was debianized by..." [06:19] jpatrick: Koos and you worked on packaging [06:19] jpatrick: yes. See digikam/copyright for an example ;) [06:20] hmm, any of you know how I get fully functional libtunepimp in dapper ? [06:20] jpatrick: afair Koos changelog entries were very short (understatement). But I usually keep them too. After all the pkging as a history [06:21] allee: yes sir === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:22] jpatrick: I only suggested it! :) [06:24] should I change the maintainer line? [06:24] jpatrick: no .la for debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkdeinit_kmplayer.so in kmplayer.install [06:25] okay.... [06:25] jpatrick: does it work without .la? I'm not sure if this is history now that kde fixed loading [06:27] there is a .la here [06:28] kmplayer.install didn't list it. Which pkg does .la own? [06:28] none, I think I have to add it [06:29] jpatrick: so it works without? then forget it [06:29] ok [06:30] jpatrick: kmplayer-base: fix long description [06:30] done [06:30] jpatrick: in general. For info in Long descriptions would not hurt [06:33] jpatrick: kmplayer meta pkg should not have versioned depends (and remove shlibs:Depends there) [06:34] jpatrick: you like the kmplayer/kmplayer-app split? [06:34] bbl [06:34] I merged the two === luka74 [n=luka74@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:46] jpatrick: ah, kmplayer long description and depends confused me :) [06:51] allee: uploading...... [06:51] jpatrick: wait ... to late ;) [06:51] opps [06:52] jpatrick: copyright should be at least: Copyright (C) 2002,2003,2004,2005.2006 by Koos Vriezen [06:53] and add 'License:' between the copright and the GPL license [06:54] I would also mention in a sentence that it's GPL v2 only (at least in copyright) Maybe source code used v2only and v2+ mix. Please check [06:57] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1784 <- what I've done so far [06:58] brb [06:59] jpatrick: 'k. I'll have a look later. User with wlan problems first ... === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:41] Ahhh.... fonts are nice again. Thanks for fixing this. [07:43] :) I hope the CKJ dudes can find a solution that doesn't break fonts for everyone else [07:43] Huahua: do you have any notes from how you remastered the dapper CD? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:20] afternoon === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-003-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [08:24] evening jjesse [08:25] nothing like a 4 hour meeting to wreck productivity at work :( [08:25] don't worry, tech board meeting in half an hour to keep you going :) [08:25] wahoo :) [08:25] Riddell: do you want a copy of the 2nd draft of the kubuntu when I'm done with it? [08:27] the kubuntu what? [08:27] oh, chapter [08:27] chapter of the book sorry [08:27] sure [08:27] typing problems today i guess [08:28] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1786 ready [08:29] hmm, this can be used as deciding factor of whether or not I give jpatrick my vote at tech board :) [08:29] i vote against him :P [08:29] just kidding of course [08:29] :) === luka74 [n=luka74@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:48] Huahua: about? tech board in 15 mins [08:51] jpatrick: where did you get the description of styleclock from in debian/control? [08:51] from it's kde-apps.org page [08:52] fair enough then [08:54] Good evening, Riddell. The ring waked me. [08:54] Version 0.6.0 of Guidance is now in the website: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ [08:54] Sime: you rock! [08:55] there are already some known bugs. But it is in principle feature complete. [08:55] We (I and sebas) intend to do regular and frequent bug fix releases. [08:56] Huahua: they'll do the new packagers first which often takes a while [08:56] leading up to the dapper release. [08:56] great [08:57] jpatrick: kmplayer-base should only Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}. the toehr depends are a hack [08:57] ok [08:58] jpatrick: kmplayer-doc still has Depends: kmplayer-app (= ${Source-Version}). remove it [08:59] added to todo [09:00] jpatrick: Copyright (C) 2002,2003,2004,2005.2006 by Koos Vriezen [09:00] jpatrick: not only 2005 [09:00] I did 2002 - 2006 [09:01] "The licenses that apply might be from xicons.com or from Apple Computers Inc. [09:01] oh, revu id? Maybe I look at an old one, but copyright and changelog is definitly new. [09:01] " [09:01] that's never going to get past NEW [09:01] oh dear... [09:01] Riddell: (some) screenshots are also updated too on the site. [09:02] allee: copy here [09:02] Sime: I'll package it up after the tech board meeting [09:02] I rever to .diff in http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1784 [09:02] Riddell: will you be doing the packaging? [09:03] Sime: would be nice to get it done sooner rather than later, heard from Fathi lately? [09:03] Riddell: I haven't heard anything from Fathi. [09:04] Riddell: It is important you/Fathi read the README file in 0.6.0. [09:04] ok [09:04] Riddell: concerning displayconfig-hwprobe.py. [09:04] Riddell: our little tool that checks hardware at boot time. [09:05] Riddell: I've been using and testing it here. and it is crude but effective. ;) [09:05] Riddell: and it is *not* installed by the setup.py. [09:05] Riddell: you'll have to do that in the debian/Rules (??) [09:06] ok [09:06] what does it do? [09:07] run dpkg-reconfigure if the gfx hardware has been changed. [09:09] how does it know if the hardware has been changed? [09:13] by scanning the PCI bus. [09:14] where does it store the result? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:15] currently it dumps the result in /var/guidance-gfxhardware-snapshot, but is only becaues I don't know of a better place. [09:15] ideas? [09:15] maybe /var/lib somewhere ? : [09:15] ) [09:15] Tonio_: just in time :) [09:15]