[12:00] <pinita>  i instaled NVU on ubuntu, I just have it over here =http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8613 , I want to put it in the menu, what ca I do?
[12:00] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, so you have a problem with your windows media then
[12:00] <ompaul> jenda, i have just discovered this gimme a break
[12:00] <joao> i'm looking for a module for pinnacle 100i. wherre i can get it?
[12:01] <colm> pinita, right click on the "Applications" Menu, choose Edit Menus
[12:01] <Tsukoharu> ompaul well the windows disc... i dont know how i can get it installed if the pc dont recognize it
[12:01] <IdleOne> jenda:  did that and but it comes up with a window saying it wont be a bootable cd
[12:01] <sky_> Tsukoharu a: have u download/ installed all linux software b: y cant u boot from installation disk?
[12:01] <jenda> ompaul: :) I meant the fact that you're following me :)
[12:01] <IdleOne> -and
[12:01] <smiley7> how do you make a shortcut for an executable text file ?
[12:01] <jenda> IdleOne: I think that means the iso is non bootable.
[12:01] <amphi> smiley7: man ln
[12:02] <pinita> colm but where do i look the program
[12:02] <Tsukoharu> sky_ i dont know my genius bro installed ubuntu for me, and i dont know, when i put in the disc and turn off the computer to boot it, when it starts up it goes to a flashing underscore
[12:02] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, that would be an issue for ##windows, as for your statement that linux is not flexable you are wrong, as for it not detecting your audio I would have to know what audio card you have
[12:02] <IdleOne> jenda: how can that be its Suse linux iso
[12:02] <colm> pinita, try pressing Alt+F2 and just typing nvu
[12:02] <Tsukoharu> ompaul trust me... its a linux problem and crimsun couldnt even find out whats wrong; its a thinkpad model problem with linux
[12:03] <sky_> Tsukoharu  lemme get this strait u cant access boot menue during startup and it just goes onto cmd
[12:03] <ompaul> thinkpad which one?
[12:03] <Tsukoharu> thinkpad 770
[12:03] <cdubya> can someone help me figger out if I've got something messed up running that would block outgoing mail?
[12:04] <Tsukoharu> and i tried that modprobe i get 2 errors when i try that, crimsun says its my bios but my BIOS ISNT customizable enough to change those options
[12:04] <jenda> IdleOne: sorry, no idea.
[12:04] <sky_> cdubya a firewall? :P
[12:04] <IdleOne> jenda:  thanks for trying :)
[12:04] <redxx> Is there anyway to get fluxbox repositories from shell?
[12:04] <jenda> np
[12:04] <cdubya> sky_, well, that could certainly be it.....but I don't know how in the world to disable on this system
[12:04] <smiley7> i made a link to my desktop but i alway have to choose either to display or run. How do i set it up to run on a default click ?
[12:04] <Tsukoharu> sky_ pretty much... and its a frozen cmd, cant enter any commands or nothing. just a blinking underscore cursor
[12:04] <cdubya> I removed firestarter, but I don't know what else I need to do
[12:04] <pinita> colm; but I alkways have to do so, every time i want to use NVU?
[12:04] <william> can someone help me get embedded video working in firefox, i apt-get mozilla-mplayer but the video downloads to 99% and doesnt play
[12:05] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hosted/tp770-mdk100.html it seems to work okay - this may give you some ideas
[12:05] <smiley7> i made a link to my desktop but i alway have to choose either to display or run. How do i set it up to run on a default click ?
[12:05] <pinita> william: you have to download the pluggins
[12:05] <william> what plug in is that?
[12:06] <pinita> ummmmmmm           try to enter a site where it have a video
[12:06] <colm> pinita, open a terminal and type 'locate nvu'
[12:06] <pinita> colm: oka
[12:06] <Tsukoharu> ompaul it doesnt work i tried that
[12:06] <Tsukoharu> ompaul lol
[12:07] <nickrud> Tsukoharu, correct me if I'm wrong, but you can boot the ubuntu install disk, but you can't boot the windows install disk
[12:07] <froookyo> now i am in "system-settings" "network properties" both network interfaces are disabled, when i try to enable them, they strictly go back to disabled
[12:07] <william> yah i went to ebaumsworld.com and the mplayer little built in window shows it downloading but it stops at 99% on everything
[12:07] <cdubya> gah, isn't there an easy way to tell if there's a firewall running?
[12:07] <Tsukoharu> nickrud i dont think the ubuntu disc works now either
[12:07] <Tsukoharu> and shit
[12:07] <Tsukoharu> now my cd rom drive wont open
[12:07] <Tsukoharu> lol
[12:08] <nickrud> william, you might also need to get the codecs
[12:08] <sky_> Tsukoharu delet partitions
[12:08] <nickrud> !tell william about codecs
[12:08] <Zibby> Anyone know how to install on a RAID array on Power PC?
[12:08] <pinita> colm :  look at this   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8614
[12:08] <ompaul> Tsukoharu, find your brother give him the laptop tell him to give you a fresh install and only that - then come in  here ... why cos I don't know what has been changed and at this stage nor does anyone else
[12:09] <Tsukoharu> ompaul he lives 3000 miles away
[12:09] <nickrud> Tsukoharu, if there's a jumper you can pull or button you can push to reset your machines bios, do that
[12:09] <sky_> lmao
[12:09] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone had trouble copying a Thunderbird profile directory from Windows to Linux?  Mine makes TB freeze with nothing of significance in the window when I try to load it.
[12:09] <william> im sorry can you resend that codec thing, i accidentally closed it
[12:10] <DUMAiSO> nickrud, It is the jumper near the battery
[12:10] <nickrud> william sorry :)
[12:11] <nickrud> DUMAiSO, there's always one somewhere
[12:11] <sky_> */such as windows xp
[12:11] <naetrick> Ok, has anyone here ever successfully built a custom kernel for Ubuntu?
[12:11] <pinita> colm
[12:13] <joao> module for pinnacle 100i
[12:13] <DUMAiSO> nickrud, yes, but in all mobos I had, there is always a jumper near the battery
[12:13] <cdubya> can someone PLEASE help me figure out how to disable the firewall on Breezy?
[12:13] <sky_> Tsukoharu u understand?
[12:13] <ompaul> cdubya, it is not installed by default - did you install one?
[12:13] <nickrud> DUMAiSO, ok. I usually find the jumper locator, I'm chicken :)
[12:13] <Tsukoharu> sky_ understand what?
[12:14] <colm> pinita, try /usr/bin/nvu
[12:14] <DUMAiSO> nickrud, I can also try removing the battery =)
[12:14] <nickrud> lol
[12:14] <cdubya> ompaul, I installed firestarter, but I don't know much about configuring the firewalls and I haven't messed with it alot. I've got an issue with sending mail via my new ISP and I can get mail fine, but from whatever client I use, I can NEVER send anything.
[12:15] <cdubya> ompaul, my ISP says I must have a firewall running and wants me to hook up my machine directly to the modem, which I can't do at this point because I don't have time....but I'm needing to get this going ASAP.
[12:15] <sky_> Tsukoharu  scroll up to what i sed b4
[12:16] <sky_> doh!
[12:16] <sky_> :)
[12:16] <brooker> Hi ! I need some help in Unix programming
[12:16] <brooker> can so help me ?
[12:16] <Tsukoharu> sky_ but if i delete the partitions,what if my cd drive still dont work... im screwed
[12:16] <sky_> ur cd drive does work
[12:16] <Tsukoharu> ok
[12:16] <colm> brooker, this isn't really the place to ask dev question
[12:16] <Tsukoharu> so how do i delete the partitions
[12:16] <ompaul> cdubya, you know if you did that he could prove it, however if you installed firestarted you can remove it with >>sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter<<
[12:17] <brooker> ok... where can I ask it ?
[12:17] <dyrne> cdubya: and maybe sudo iptables -L you should see 3 things input forward and output should all be accept
[12:17] <ramblingturtle> hello quick question where do i go to tell ubuntu that I am using 5.1 surround sound speaker because I am only getting sound out of part of them
[12:17] <Bsd-Freak> any one know why ubuntu keeps losing my wireless drivers
[12:17] <colm> type '/list' and look for unix programming
[12:17] <cdubya> dyrne, Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[12:17] <ompaul> cdubya, after that to clear the current firewall do this >> sudo iptables -F <<
[12:17] <cdubya> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:17] <cdubya> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[12:17] <cdubya> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:17] <cdubya> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[12:17] <cdubya> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:17] <ompaul> cdubya, DO NOT PASTE IN HERE
[12:17] <redxx> Can someone help me with a fluxbox install, PM Please :D
[12:17] <cdubya> my bad
[12:18] <nickrud> ramblingturtle, I don't have 5.1, but if I installed it I'd try running alsamixer from the command line
[12:18] <sky_> Tsukoharu fuck i cant rember the name of the programm but u can find it on isohunt.com
[12:18] <ompaul> cdubya, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:18] <Tsukoharu> brb sky_ switchin to laptop
[12:18] <ompaul> cdubya, you do not have a firewall installed
[12:18] <dyrne> cdubya: remove firestarter other than that I dont think its a firewall on your system maybe a router?
[12:18] <ompaul> cdubya, or at least active
[12:18] <lmanul> brooker: you can still try and ask your question if you have a precise one
[12:18] <cdubya> It's never been an issue at all with this router.
[12:18] <UFO> colm: why shouldnt peoplo ask about dev  things here?
[12:19] <sky_> yeh
[12:19] <colm> UFO, "Official Ubuntu support channel "
[12:19] <sky_> dev
[12:19] <sky_> c++
[12:19] <tombs> hi all
[12:19] <cdubya> What in the world would be set to disallow smtp in the router, I mean, other than some iptables setting to block a particular IP?
[12:19] <sky_> lmao
[12:19] <nickrud> UFO, mainly cuz the signal to noise ratio for that stuff on this channel is pretty bad
[12:19] <Bsd-Freak> any one know why ubuntu keeps losing my wireless drivers
[12:19] <ompaul> cdubya, okay lets do this the easy way what you showed was no firewall - therefore it is something else - up to and including an error in the email client setup
[12:20] <UFO> colm: ok... i see ubuntu is not for programming... and it have nothing to do with unix
[12:20] <ompaul> cdubya, sorry if I am a bit short with you, I am not enjoying this week :-)
[12:20] <cdubya> ompaul, the error is the same in nearly every client I've used....in TB it's an "Address rejected" error, but the number seems to be the same consistently 5.1.0
[12:20] <colm> brooker, try '/join #unix-programming'
[12:20] <cdubya> ompaul, no worries, appreciate the help
[12:20] <disastorm> hey
[12:20] <william> the week has just begun :)
[12:20] <disastorm> hey
[12:20] <disastorm>  does anyone know how to get ragnarok to work ?!?!
[12:20] <colm> UFO, well it doesn't come with dev libraries so yeah!  it's linux for humans...
[12:20] <wastrel> hello m'dears.  every time i try to download a certain file my wireless connection drops
[12:21] <wastrel> any ideas what to look at for this?
[12:21] <UFO> colm: ;)
[12:21] <sky_> network configuration
[12:21] <sky_> ?
[12:21] <karim> Hello
[12:21] <colm> UFO, disclaimer...  _I_ use ubuntu for dev... ;)
[12:22] <sky_> lol colm
[12:22] <ompaul> cdubya, that looks interesting, let me look at the settings in thunderbird I think I know what you need to set
[12:22] <wastrel> sky_:  the network config is fine normally, it's just when i try to transfer this one file that my connection drops...  not sure what is dying, the driver, the connection, the interface... never had a problem like this before.
[12:22] <myki> How do I run fsck?
[12:22] <geneo93> anyone have deb for seamonkey
[12:23] <sky_> what happens when u initially try to connect?
[12:23] <cdubya> ompaul, check this out...... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15326932~start=40
[12:23] <wastrel> sky_:  to download the file?  it starts the download but partway through it dies.
[12:23] <colm> pinita, any joy?
[12:24] <nickrud> myki, fsck /dev/hd?? , but be sure that partition is unmounted first
[12:24] <jalvarezrom> hello all
[12:24] <sky_> strange if it didnt connect atall that woud be a different story
[12:24] <mcrawfor> hello, what's the ubuntu equivalent of redhat's chkconfig?
[12:24] <nickrud> mcrawfor, update-rc.d
[12:24] <suspended> how do i mount a cue file?
[12:24] <mcrawfor> nickrud: thanky
[12:24] <nickrud> mcrawfor, loose equivalent
[12:24] <myki> nickrud: fsck: command not found
[12:25] <sky_> hmm
[12:25] <jalvarezrom> anyone know how to uninstall Xen???
[12:25] <dyrne> suspended: take a look at cdemu youll have to download from web other than that you need to convert to iso
[12:25] <IdleOne> jenda you still here?
[12:25] <suspended> thanks, dyrne
[12:25] <jenda> IdleOne: aye
[12:25] <nickrud> myki, sudo fsck
[12:25] <wastrel> i just downloaded it to my other computer, i'm going to try to scp it.
[12:25] <joao> anyone know how to install pinnacle 100i in ubuntu?
[12:25] <nickrud> jalvarezrom, sudo apt-get remove xen ?
[12:25] <myki> nickrud: correct, T U
[12:25] <IdleOne> jenda: gnomebaker keeps poping out the cd asking me to insert a cd
[12:25] <IdleOne> its a cd-rw
[12:26] <jenda> give it a couple... :)
[12:26] <IdleOne> lol
[12:26] <IdleOne> I have
[12:26] <dsas> could someone tell me the difference between the eric3 and eric IDEs in universe?
[12:26] <IdleOne> but ok
[12:26] <wastrel> i don't know my neighbors
[12:26] <jenda> Seriously, no idea. Maybe you need to blank it first?
[12:26] <jalvarezrom> nickrud, isn't a debian package...
[12:26] <IdleOne> tried blanking it and it poped it out
[12:26] <sky_> lol westrel perhapps u shud scan ur drives for viruses
[12:27] <nickrud> jalvarezrom, then you should be able to do make uninstall from inside the build dir
[12:27] <cdubya> ompaul, so the 550 error I'm getting is basically my ISP telling me I'm relaying?
[12:27] <sky_> or use network to scan for other users
[12:27] <nickrud> jalvarezrom, I have no idea if uninstall is properly made for xen, but I would assume so.
[12:27] <jalvarezrom> nickrud, how I know what's the buid directory?
[12:27] <tsukoharu> sky_,  back
[12:28] <sky_> wb
[12:28] <nickrud> jalvarezrom, the same dir you built it in
[12:28] <sky_> where been?
[12:28] <tsukoharu> sky_ How can i delete the partitions
[12:28] <technomancy_> anybody use a mac USB keyboard with regular PC ubuntu?
[12:28] <jalvarezrom> i installed it with a script called install.sh but i don see the make program
[12:28] <sky_> u need to use a programm to do it whereas u wud normally do it from boot
[12:29] <tsukoharu> sky_ whats the program name?
[12:29] <sky_> try look in isohunt.com
[12:29] <sky_> cant remember try looking there
[12:29] <sky_> it is there somewhere
[12:29] <tsukoharu> isohunt has thousand upon thousands of things
[12:29] <tsukoharu> i dont have enough time to look
[12:30] <sky_> yes but specify ur search lol
[12:30] <nickrud> jalvarezrom, ah, well, you'd probably need to get the uninstall instructions from the same place you got the install from.
[12:30] <tsukoharu> to what exactly
[12:30] <wastrel> delete partitions?
[12:30] <wastrel> you'd use fdisk or a variant
[12:30] <sky_> he cant
[12:30] <jalvarezrom> ok, nickrud thanks
[12:30] <scam> is there a way to make ubuntu play more then one audio file at once?
[12:30] <scam> like gaim and xmms?
[12:31] <henk2> I just debboostrapped a new ubuntu to run inside colinux. I tried base-config to configure the system but it does not do much. Has this functionality been moved to somewhere else in ubuntu ? I'm now using dselect to install some more packages. What will be my next step to get this bare system to install to a full ubuntu ?
[12:31] <ompaul> cdubya, okay my suspicion is that you have to authenticate before you sent mail, I can't find such a setting however I am looking in the space on thunderbird on the menu edit preferences choosing an account and server settings and something in there - but what exactly - you could also do this start thunderbird in a terminal and see if you get any specific failure message that might give more of a clue
[12:31] <sizzam> i found a post that says 'xdvdshrink' is available in a repo somewhere, anyone know where?
[12:31] <nickrud> jalvarezrom, possibly it installed to /usr/local
[12:31] <nickrud> henk2, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to go all the way
[12:31] <cdubya> ompaul, k, I'll poke around a bit.....I know that it's an auth issue at least at this point, but I can't seem to get Evolution to auth either......
[12:32] <cdubya> ompaul, thanks
[12:32] <DUMAiSO> scam, your soundcard should be able to do this
[12:33] <scam> DUMAiSO, i though so.. but i get audio device is in use all ready
[12:33] <technomancy_> scam: what program? programs using esd should not have that problem
[12:33] <william> hey i need help editing my GRUB. im trying to change my default boot to windows after 10 seconds or whatever, but i have to enter a number, the default is 0 so i dont know what number windows would be
[12:34] <sky_> lalalalala
[12:34] <sky_> need a decent trojan
[12:34] <sky_> no wait
[12:34] <nickrud> william, count the lines on the boot selection screen, starting at 0, till you get to you windows
[12:34] <sky_> need a decompiler
[12:34] <william> ok thanks :)
[12:34] <dsas> nickrud: that solution will only last as long as the auto magic kernel thingy doesn't include any new kernels.
[12:34] <scam> tearfate, just my basic gnome sounds effect all other programes
[12:35] <scam> and when i play xmms i dont get any gaim or gnome sounds
[12:35] <sky_> laterz all
[12:35] <technomancy_> so my apple usb keyboard seems to not respond to alt, ctrl, or super keys
[12:35] <nickrud> dsas, true: I don't know a permanent fix though
[12:35] <trinitrogen> Whenever I boot up my laptop, it takes forever to "Configure Network Interfaces". Is it trying to get a IP from DHCP?
[12:35] <dsas> nickrud, william, you probably want to move the windows lines to the top of the automagic kernel bit
[12:35] <henk2> hmm anyone know a *fast* mirror (i'm in europe) i've tried a few and they all reach about 100KB/sec
[12:35] <nickrud> dsas, what windows line :)
[12:36] <william> yah i could but then i would probably screw up the formatting lol
[12:36] <dyrne> trinitrogen: my /etc/network/interfaces file reads iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:36] <william> nick, do i count the line "Others operating systems"
[12:37] <nickrud> william, yes
[12:37] <trinitrogen> dyrne: I don't know what that means :)
[12:37] <LadyNikon> william: dual booting?
[12:37] <kbrooks> DSC: "We will not object to non-free works that are intended to be used on Debian systems, or attempt to charge a fee to people who create or use such works."
[12:37] <trinitrogen> dyrne: I'd like it to not try and lease an IP, the wireless on my campus uses WPA and I have to run a script and use WPA supplicant to get it to work
[12:37] <kbrooks> Why object? And a fee would be reasonable. Why isnt it?
[12:37] <dsas> nickrud, williams: From "# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS" to the bottom of the file needs to be moved to be above the "### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST" line
[12:37] <nickrud> dsas, that'll work (changing the automagic stuff) until grub gets ?
[12:38] <kbrooks> er
[12:38] <william> yes
[12:38] <nickrud> * updated
[12:38] <kbrooks> Why not object
[12:38] <riciqwe> how come I can't run synaptic package manager ? I get "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Wrong password"
[12:38] <Court> hey guys could somone help me? How do i start a terminal? I am new to ubuntu!
[12:38] <LadyNikon> riciqwe: yikes
[12:38] <trinitrogen> Court, should be on the top of yoru screen, black box
[12:38] <dsas> nickrud: yeah, So if you move the windows bit to be above the automagic kernel bit then windows will always be entry 0
[12:38] <riciqwe> LadyNikon, ??
[12:38] <nickrud> riciqwe, use your user password
[12:38] <william> applications, accessories, terminal
[12:38] <LadyNikon> Court: look for it under aplls i think
[12:38] <nickrud> dsas, ok
[12:38] <LadyNikon> yeah what william said
[12:39] <dyrne> trinitrogen: not sure about wireless at bootup sorry
[12:39] <dsas> nickrud: Have i explained that right?
[12:39] <trinitrogen> dyrne: its cool
[12:39] <riciqwe> nickrud, nothing happens
[12:39] <Court> thank you very much
[12:39] <Court> thanks William!
[12:40] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!!
[12:40] <nickrud> dsas, I see your point; but does grub have a way around an altered menu.lst during an upgrade?
[12:41] <nickrud> riciqwe, open from the top menu bar, system->admin->synaptic, and enter your normal user password: does that work?
[12:41] <eyedol59> can anybody tell me where does ubuntu keep the moudules?.I am looking the forcedeth module
[12:41] <riciqwe> nickrud, it doen't ask for a password
[12:41] <riciqwe> nickrud, and nothing happens
[12:41] <william> is there anyway to get my wireless working at start up so i dont have to run iwconfig + dhclient?
[12:41] <UFO> eyedol59: try in console locate modules
[12:42] <dsas> nickrud: Uhm, you mean when you install a new version of grub? You get the same two choices you get with every other config file I guess, keep yours or roll with the new ones.
[12:42] <nickrud> riciqwe, in a terminal, type sudo synaptic and enter your password: what happens?
[12:42] <riciqwe> nickrud, nothing
[12:42] <matt24> is there anyone in here that can help me setup ati drivers for 3d
[12:42] <UFO> william: do you use ndiswrapper
[12:42] <nickrud> dsas, yeah. And which is easier for a new user, answering that, or changing menu.lst? (a rhetorical question)
[12:42] <Razor-X> Hmmm... can someone help me getting GLX working?
[12:43] <william> no, some people run a sourceforge for my network card so i used there drivers
[12:43] <scam> Razor-X, what video card do you have?
[12:43] <nickrud> riciqwe, did it ask for your password at all?
[12:43] <Razor-X> I have a copy of nvidia.ko on the HDD, but when I try to modprobe it, it tells me there's no device.
[12:43] <dsas> nickrud: But if you're going to change menu.lst to start windows by default then you're going to get prompted anyway.
[12:43] <Razor-X> But, ``lspci -v'' shows it u.
[12:43] <Razor-X> *up.
[12:43] <eyedol59> anybody knows if an ubuntu module will work on a debian system?
[12:43] <riciqwe> nickrud, yes, but after that it did nothing
[12:43] <Razor-X> scam: nVidia TNT2 with nvidia-glx-legacy.
[12:43] <dyrne> ubotu: tell matt24 about ati
[12:43] <nickrud> dsas, point to you :)
[12:43] <matt24> I have just used the ati installer
[12:44] <matt24> but have no idea what it installed
[12:44] <nickrud> riciqwe, then I'm not sure. try sudo ls, do you get a directory listing?
[12:44] <matt24> need some help please
[12:44] <riciqwe> nickrud, nope
[12:44] <nickrud> riciqwe, sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[12:44] <UFO> dosnt gnome have an network conf tool... donno because kde
[12:45] <nightwatch> hi, how can I bring up nfs server in ubuntu? maybe it is not installed for default and I didnt find the right packet into apt list
[12:45] <nickrud> UFO, system->admin->networking
[12:45] <riciqwe> nickrud, nothing
[12:46] <dyrne> UFO: or sudo network-admin
[12:46] <nightwatch> ops, I found it
[12:47] <navarone> matt what vidcard?
[12:47] <matt24> ati x800 pro
[12:48] <nickrud> riciqwe, it sounds like you have something wrong in your account setups, or permissions. Type groups ; is admin in that line, along with cdrom and the like?
[12:48] <naetrick_> How do I fix this?
[12:48] <naetrick_> arch/i386/kernel/built-in.o: In function `sys_call_table':
[12:48] <naetrick_> : undefined reference to `sys_ioprio_get'
[12:48] <Court> Does anyone know where i can change my screesaver?
[12:48] <naetrick_> When compiling 2.6.11 source, which I got from apt-get
[12:48] <popey> Court: system --> preferences --> screensaver
[12:48] <Razor-X> I tried compiling the nVidia drivers via the included setup.
[12:48] <Razor-X> But, it fails.
[12:49] <Court> Thank you popey!!
[12:49] <popey> Razor-X: have you tried getting the nvidia-glx package?
[12:49] <nickrud> naetrick, the 2.6.11 source is bad, from what I hear.
[12:49] <riciqwe> nickrud, I've logged in as root, and edited that sudoers file and now it seems ok
[12:49] <Court> Popey: I dont have that option
[12:49] <nickrud> riciqwe, good
[12:49] <naetrick_> nickrud: Really? hmm
[12:49] <dyrne> matt24: can you take back for a 9200 or newer nvidia? :)
[12:49] <popey> court, ubuntu breezy?
[12:49] <amphi> naetrick_: you'd be better of with kernel.org src IMHO
[12:49] <Court> only screen resolution
[12:49] <amphi> naetrick_: *better off
[12:49] <naetrick_> amphi: 'Tis not working, unfortunately
[12:49] <Court> dapper
[12:50] <amphi> naetrick_: are you using kernel-package?
[12:50] <naetrick_> Whatever I try
[12:50] <naetrick_> amphi: Yes
[12:50] <naetrick_> make-kpkg
[12:50] <matt24> I wish I had gotten a 6800gt now
[12:50] <popey> Court: i have dapper and I have *two* screensaver entries
[12:50] <naetrick_> It builds, but I have boot problems
[12:50] <amphi> naetrick_: it won't build?
[12:50] <naetrick_> as you read earlier
[12:50] <geneo93> naetrick the nvidia installer needs patch
[12:50] <amphi> uhuh
[12:50] <nickrud> naetrick, you mean the source in hoary, right? that's bad, it should never have been released
[12:50] <Court> Very odd I know, it has the option for screen resolution but not screen saver
[12:51] <dyrne> matt24: its a fine card but not sure about driver support in linux..
[12:51] <naetrick_> now it gives "Unable to mount VFS on root drive" or something to that effect...
[12:51] <matt24> I know
[12:51] <nads> can anyone tell me why "rm -rf *.class" doesn't erase all the class files including the ones in the subsdirectories please?
[12:51] <matt24> thats what I have been hearing
[12:51] <popey> Court: open a terminal, then type gnome-screensaver-preferences
[12:51] <garface> !easyubuntu
[12:51] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:51] <rewt_> whats the command to kill the gdm?
[12:51] <naetrick_> rewt_: ps -ef | grep gdm
[12:51] <Razor-X> nads: Because, by definition, `*' in a Bourne-compatible shell only matches all the files in a directory.
[12:51] <Court> oh thank you so much!:-P
[12:51] <naetrick_> look for the PID; kill PID
[12:51] <nickrud> Court, apt-cache policy gnome-screensaver should say installed
[12:52] <popey> rewt_: killall gdm
[12:52] <rewt_> maetrick will that restart it aytomatically?
[12:52] <Razor-X> naetrick_: What do you want to do with GDM?
[12:52] <nads> Razor-X, then how would i perform what i wanted to do?
[12:52] <Razor-X> nads: Hmmm....
[12:52] <Court> popey, do i put the - in there?
[12:53] <Razor-X> You may want to get an ls done, sed/grep/awk out the etries you need, then chug rm at them.
[12:53] <scam> alright in alsamixer.. i cant unmute both sides of my surround
[12:53] <Razor-X> *entries
[12:53] <scam> is there something special i got to do
[12:53] <Razor-X> By the way.
[12:53] <scam> then just hitting the m key
[12:53] <nads> Razor-X,  can you show me an example? i'm kind of new at scripting / bashing... :)
[12:53] <Razor-X> You restart gdm, the correct way, using ``sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart''.
[12:53] <popey> Court: I don't understand the question.
[12:53] <matt24> I need flash for firefox
[12:53] <matt24> can someone help
[12:54] <scam> matt24 apt-cache search flash
[12:54] <popey> matt24: sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[12:54] <Court> I got it, sorry! Thank you again I really appreciate it, my b/f put this on my laptop and i cannot figure anything out!
[12:54] <nickrud> !tell matt24 about flash
[12:54] <Razor-X> nads: Actually, easier still.
[12:54] <popey> Court: it's no problem
[12:54] <matt24> thanks guys
[12:55] <matt24> sorry about being a noob
[12:55] <popey> Court: I "ubuntu"'ed my wifes computer, I'm sure she curses me sometimes
[12:55] <Stormx2> Im trying to play a video stream. Totem crashes, and VLC doesn't even try. XMMS can get the audio fine. Suggestions?
[12:55] <nickrud> matt24, that's a correctable condition, nothing to be sorry for ;)
[12:55] <Razor-X> nads: You want to write a simple ``for'' loop.
[12:55] <Court> i used to have susey and it was sooo much easier!
[12:56] <ba> hehe if only i could convince my gf to use ubuntu
[12:56] <matt24> I had to get about from winblows xp. too much spyware and viruses
[12:56] <popey> Court: to be fair I wouldn't give my wife dapper, she uses breezy.. dapper is too new (and broken) for her
[12:56] <Razor-X> nads: And you can use multiple for loops for multiple subdirectories, unless you don't want to specify each subdirectory.
[12:56] <cyphase> http://www.sgs-international.com/http2.0/index.html
[12:56] <popey> ba: mine had no choice :)
[12:56] <Court> popey: he told me i would like it more, it seems real nice so far, i just have to find things!!
[12:56] <popey> she deals with children, I deal with things that have plugs on
[12:56] <navarone> popey...thats a nice valentine card there...lol
[12:56] <popey> :D
[12:56] <Razor-X> nads: It gets complicated then, and you may want to do some research into BASH globbing (since ZSH is much better about these things.).
[12:56] <ba> popey, my gf still lives with her dad, who wont even give her admin in windows so she can install software
[12:56] <ba> hes a nazi i swear
[12:56] <popey> :)
[12:57] <Razor-X> ba: My dad did that ;).
[12:57] <navarone> ba...maybe he is trying to keep his pron stash secret...;)
[12:57] <ba> popey, so i enter as admin using F8 and install stuff anyway
[12:57] <ba> it pisses him off so much
[12:57] <Court> ok well i might have to ask you a few more questions if you dont mind popey
[12:57] <Razor-X> ba: Got a Linux disc, installed, made GRUB have a small timeout to start, et voila. C'est le transparent programme en informatique.
[12:57] <nads> Razor-X,  sounds weird that you have to do such a simple task with scripting....
[12:57] <popey> Court: while I'm here, ask away
[12:58] <Razor-X> nads: It's not simple if you're dynamically giving subdirectories.
[12:58] <sizzam> whats the best command to use to mount a file.img' file?
[12:58] <popey> (others can answer too)
[12:58] <ba> did you know you can enter as admin in windows using F8 and usually its not password protected
[12:58] <ba> you just have to enter as safemode
[12:58] <popey> sizzam: is it an ISO file?
[12:58] <popey> sizzam: what does "file file.img" say?
[12:58] <Razor-X> I've forgotten most of my Windows knowledge, sorry.
[12:58] <Nwallins|home> anyone using dvd::rip?  i have ripped the dvd and am attempting to transcode (~2 hrs).  i had started last night, but it's trying to do multiple passes, and the 2nd pass overwrote the 1st before i stopped it, leaving me with 19MB file instead of a 1.4 GB file.  any idea how to turn off multiple passes, or at least configure it not to overwrite?
[12:58] <Court> popey thank you!
[12:58] <Razor-X> I'ld probably rated as a Windows n00b.
[12:59] <popey> Nwallins|home: isn't there a way to tell transcode to do "lumps" of files, 900MB in size or something?
[12:59] <sizzam> popey, yes, its an iso, i know how to mount that.   thanks for the tip
[12:59] <popey> Nwallins|home: I thought it was the default actually
[12:59] <nickrud> I'm not a windows n00b, it just that windows has passed me by
[12:59] <Nwallins|home> popey: yes, according to CD size.
[12:59] <Nwallins|home> popey: the problem is, if i leave it unattended, it will try a 2nd pass and overwrite the previous efforts
[12:59] <popey> sizzam: use "loopback" it's in the man page for the mount command, type "man mount" and look down the bottom for "loop"
[12:59] <nads> Razor-X, ok i'll look into it. thanks
[12:59] <navarone> nickrud...it's like you are looking out the window on a train and nothing changes...lol
[01:00] <Court> would you help me with Realplayer, i cant find it!
[01:00] <sizzam> popey, is that what this step does:   sudo modprobe loop
[01:00] <scam> Court, try locate realplayer
[01:00] <nickrud> navarone, with a deep grey mist obscuring the distance :)
[01:00] <popey> sizzam: no, you want a mount command
[01:00] <popey> Court: www.real.com/linux
[01:00] <Nwallins|home> popey: if multiple passes means a better transcode, then I might elect for that for my most important backups (~6 hrs for 3 passes), but right now I just want to come back after 2 hrs and have the movie ready
[01:00] <navarone> nickrud sometimes interrupted by a blue screen
[01:00] <Court> all i have is movie player
[01:00] <popey> Nwallins|home: I am no transcode expert I'm afraid
[01:00] <sizzam> popey, hows this look:   sudo mount file.img /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[01:00] <Court> ok, i will try it thank you
[01:01] <nickrud> Court, you do not want the realplayer from the repos
[01:01] <popey> Court: you can download and install real
[01:01] <Nwallins|home> popey: thanks anyway
[01:01] <nickrud> !tell court about realplayer
[01:01] <popey> sizzam: that looks about right
[01:01] <sizzam> thanx
[01:02] <nickrud> navarone, I haven't seen one of those in years, except for screensavers
[01:02] <garface> !easyubuntu
[01:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:02] <Court> after i downloaded it to my desktop what do i do?
[01:03] <garface> i tried getting easyubuntu from the link above and i think the file is corrupted does anyone know where i can get a good one
[01:03] <popey> court, can't remember, what type of file is it? a .sh file?
[01:03] <Court> there were two, will the rpm self extracting wor?k
[01:03] <Court> bin
[01:04] <popey> Court: I *think* you just run it
[01:04] <popey> Court: if you run it as you it will install in your home directory in a place of your choosing
[01:04] <popey> Court: if you run it as root using "sudo realplayer....bin" then you can install it somewhere for everyone to use
[01:04] <ratschnowski> hello, once i made changes to /etc/crontab , do i have to "activate" those changes somehow?
[01:05] <popey> Court: hwoever.. now I think about it there may be a packaged version
[01:05] <ratschnowski> i mean, is there a process that has to be reloaded before those changes are enabled?
[01:05] <popey> Court: yeah.. sudo apt-get install realplayer :)
[01:05] <popey> sorry
[01:05] <theboywhogotlost> Is there a log of all the commands entered in the shell?
[01:05] <popey> theboywhogotlost: history
[01:05] <popey> theboywhogotlost: type "history" or cat ~/.bash_history
[01:05] <popey> to get a biiiig list
[01:06] <scam> why cant i unmute both channels in alsamixer for my surround
[01:07] <theboywhogotlost> how about replys from the commands?
[01:07] <nm> anyone here using freenx?
[01:07] <nm> or nx at all, for that matter
[01:07] <popey> theboywhogotlost: type !nnn where nnn is the number you see in "history"
[01:07] <Court>  ok here is what i got:Couldn't display "/home/ubuntu/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin"
[01:07] <tatters> what is a tty?
[01:08] <popey> Court: open a terminal from Applications --> accessories --> terminal and do "sudo apt-get install realplayer" (this wont use what you just downloaded, but may work better anyway)
[01:08] <scam> Court, put ./ in front of it
[01:08] <bimberi> theboywhogotlost: "replies" aren't logged - there's only in the scroll buffer of your terminal
[01:08] <popey> theboywhogotlost: sorry, misunderstood
[01:08] <starscalling> if i disconnect brb sowwie
[01:09] <popey> theboywhogotlost: thought you meant replays
[01:09] <theboywhogotlost> !nnn does not do anything
[01:09] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, theboywhogotlost
[01:09] <tatters> A TTY is also known as a TDD (Telecommunications Device for the Deaf) ?
[01:09] <popey> tatters: is it?
[01:09] <tatters> I dunno
[01:09] <theboywhogotlost> Well thank you all for your help
[01:09] <navarone> Itatters tty is short for teletypewriter
[01:09] <navarone> or teletype
[01:09] <tatters> oh tight I used one of them yrs ago
[01:10] <popey> ahh happy days printing out program listings on a teletype connected to a Pr1meOS computer
[01:10] <tatters> with 8 bit paper tape
[01:10] <tatters> lol they still around
[01:10] <popey> haven't seen one for years
[01:11] <nads> what's the command to search for specific text in files within a directory?
[01:11] <navarone> tatters...if you ahve dictionary installed...which you probably do...you can open it go to preferences and choose free online computing dictionary and learn all kinds of jargon there...<s>
[01:11] <popey> nads: grep
[01:11] <geneo93> tatters:  just type man tty in terminal
[01:11] <amphi> navarone: yeah, local dictd is a Good Thing(TM)
[01:11] <tatters> so its just an old world name for the terminal?
[01:12] <amphi> tatters: if you do that, also install dict-devil
[01:12] <bimberi> ye olde terminal :)
[01:12] <Court> popey: sorry i keep bothering you here is what it said ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install realplayer
[01:12] <Court> Reading package lists... Done
[01:12] <Court> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:12] <Court> E: Couldn't find package realplayer
[01:12] <tatters> k gunna look it up just took top google result
[01:12] <popey> court: hmm, looks like some of the repositories have not been enabled
[01:12] <nads> popey,  wouldn't i have to do something like cat filename | grep <whatever expression> ?
[01:12] <navarone> amphi...it's pretty cool to have...I tried looking up some arabic words and they even print them on right side of display just as it is written...nicely thought out
[01:13] <Court> ok, i do that in the package manager correct?
[01:13] <popey> nads: grep <expression> <file>
[01:13] <nm> i've just seen about 5 questions i already answered myself by using google
[01:13] <nm> come on guys
[01:13] <nads> popey,  oh :)
[01:13] <Court> can i do the same for java too?
[01:13] <popey> court: you could
[01:13] <popey> Court: yes
[01:13] <popey> Court: there is a guide on the ubuntu website that tells you this :)
[01:13] <scam> na then justfuckinggoogleit.com
[01:13] <popey> Court: let me find it for you
[01:14] <Court> thank you!
[01:14] <popey> Court: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java
[01:14] <navarone> nm...google is like a old uncle who isn't gonna leave you anything in his will but tells you everything you could ever want to know about something like wasps...except why...<s>
[01:14] <popey> Court: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html too
[01:14] <sizzam> if i am playing an mp3, and then i go to a webpage that has flash with audio, i cant hear the audio.  in order to hear the flash audio, i have to close down the mp3 player and then close firefox and reopen it
[01:14] <tatters> so would it be a good idea to dissallow all root logins via tty or does ubuntu do that by default anyways?
[01:14] <amphi> nm: a plea for sanity? ;)
[01:14] <Court> i appreciate it once i get java, realplayer, i should be ok
[01:14] <Court> thanks!!!!
[01:15] <amphi> tatters: ubuntu disables root
[01:15] <popey> Court: nah, you'll want flash after that :)
[01:15] <nm> i'm just frustrated because i suspect nobody will be able to help me with my freenx problem
[01:15] <nm> :/
[01:15] <popey> Court: then something else :)
[01:15] <Court> lol, is it the same way?
[01:15] <Razor-X> nm: Shoot, some of use are bound to help.
[01:15] <amphi> nm: I've never used it I'm afraid
[01:15] <nm> which i've spent quite a bit more time researching than some of the folk with problems that are presenting them here
[01:15] <popey> Court: it's all on that page :)
[01:15] <Razor-X> Or, look at me, my GLX doesen't seem to work.
[01:15] <nm> i have freenx installed, and configured
[01:15] <nm> it accepts the client connection no problem
[01:15] <popey> nm, I have never used it either, sorry
[01:15] <tatters> so its set up like that by default amphi?
[01:15] <nm> everything looks good in the log file
[01:15] <c0sm0> i have a newbie question if anyone would like to help....
[01:15] <nm> but it just dies,
[01:15] <popey> c0sm0: go
[01:16] <nm> citing 'remote proxy requests end session'
[01:16] <nm> from client side
[01:16] <nm> and unlike the usual culprit i've seen on several forums
[01:16] <nm> there is no cookie/auth mismatch
[01:16] <rewt_> i tried installing gdesklets...after completion the transparency was messed up. i found a forum in ubuntu that was suposed to fix this by right clicking the gdesklets icon and hitting configuration.....when i do that its like im only right clicking the menu...is something wrong with my gdm?
[01:16] <c0sm0> thanks popey - i would like to update firefox to 1.5 but i don't know what to do with the archive i've downloaded
[01:16] <amphi> nm: google knows nothing? what about /usr/share/doc/freenx or whatever?
[01:16] <nm> google knows nothing relevant
[01:16] <Razor-X> Oh by the way, is there an NX server for Windows?
[01:16] <nm> people with similiar problems were just doing something wrong with their authentication keys
[01:16] <nm> razor: a commercial version, yes
[01:17] <popey> c0sm0: ubuntu breezy?
[01:17] <Razor-X> nm: Gratis, though?
[01:17] <c0sm0> yes ;)
[01:17] <colm> nm, i was afk - i'm using freenx right now...
[01:17] <nm> freenx is a free implementation built using the libraries that nomachine.com released under GPL
[01:17] <nm> colm: have you ever had the clients just not finish the connection
[01:17] <nm> and have a working X screen?
[01:17] <popey> c0sm0: dunno, I use 1.0.7
[01:17] <nm> it says everything is good
[01:17] <Court> Thanks guys, bye for now!
[01:17] <nm> but when i click 'details' in the windows client
[01:17] <colm> nm, stable as you like for me
[01:17] <nm> the last line simply says "remote proxy requested end session"
[01:17] <c0sm0> heheh ok thanks
[01:17] <matt24> can someone help me.  I have my ati drivers installed. need to find out why in my ati control planel the drivers are showing mesa3d
[01:18] <rewt_> so is my gdm messed up?
[01:18] <nm> NX Client 1.5 for windows
[01:18] <nm> freenx 1.4
[01:18] <taylor_> is wine and xine the same thing?
[01:18] <nm> or nxserver 1.4
[01:18] <nm> even
[01:18] <colm> working x screen with higher res than the server plus audio!  (no soundcard in server).
[01:18] <nm> taylor: wine allows you to run programs that use windows api
[01:18] <nm> xine is a media player
[01:18] <Razor-X> nm: I couldn't find the server for Windows, heh.
[01:18] <nm> razor: www.nomachine.com
[01:18] <nm> there isn't a free one
[01:18] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[01:18] <nm> unless freenx has been ported to windows
[01:18] <nm> ;)
[01:18] <taylor_> why is the one in the repos so old?
[01:19] <amphi> so old?
[01:19] <Zoohouse> What app do folks on Linux use to make Flash movies??
[01:19] <Psi-Jack> Zoohouse: Macromedia Flash, in Windows 2000, under VMWare.
[01:19] <LadyNikon> hey did vpnc get taken out?
[01:19] <amphi> Zoohouse: emacs ;)
[01:19] <taylor_> why is the wine in the repos so old?
[01:19] <LadyNikon> out of the apt-get tree?
[01:19] <Zoohouse> not good ... :(
[01:20] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone here use OpenLDAP?
[01:20] <Zoohouse> ok thanks
[01:20] <bolthman> hello everyone i just finished installing my ubuntu but i dont know how connect to internet, i have a modem and dns numbers (now im in other PC) someone can help me?? really i dont understand a lot of programing but im traying to learn
[01:20] <bimberi> nm: i use FreeNX but can't really help sorry.  I used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX to set mine up, maybe something there might help
[01:20] <nm> maybe, thanks, i'll check it out
[01:20] <bolthman> thanks bimberi
[01:20] <LadyNikon> bolthman: do you have a ethernet cable plugged in?
[01:20] <colm> nm, second that on the wiki front.  got me going too
[01:21] <navarone> is there anything worse than password protected .rar's <sigh>
[01:21] <rewt_> bolthm...system>administration>networking
[01:21] <Psi-Jack> navarone: Password protected ACE archives.
[01:21] <tatters> no password protected rar?
[01:21] <mArtin_M> hi
[01:21] <bimberi> yw :)
[01:21] <popey> Nakkel: password protected .lzh files
[01:21] <popey> oops
[01:22] <bolthman> mmm my modem is conected
[01:22] <popey> navarone: password protected .pak files :)
[01:22] <navarone> Psi-Jack, I am assuming it is password prob...I just installed rar package and it works with Archive Manager...but won't extract
[01:22] <rewt_> anyone in here have any luck with gDesklets?
[01:22] <LadyNikon> bolthman: configure it.
[01:22] <nm> needless proprietary compression formats
[01:22] <mArtin_M> a question... what`s the next version of ubuntu... before Breezzy? if there`s one... does exist any repositories for testing? thanks
[01:22] <nm> blarg
[01:22] <bolthman> but how??
[01:22] <rewt_> dapper drake
[01:22] <LadyNikon> bolthman: in the networking section
[01:22] <nm> .bz2 > .lameerr i mean .rar/.ace/etc...
[01:22] <LadyNikon> click on networking
[01:23] <bur[n] er> before breezy?
[01:23] <colm> rewt_, i've got a rather pretty old fashioned wristwatch on my desktop, so yeah
[01:23] <rewt_> hoay
[01:23] <bolthman> ok, i will try, thanks!!!
[01:23] <scam> while using toten playing an avi movie i get this .. "an error occurred, the audio device is busy. is another program using it?"
[01:23] <taylor_> is there anything that can scan ubuntu for viruses, spyware,  and anything else that can slow it down because yesterday ubnuntu was goin twice as fast
[01:23] <bimberi> ubotu tell mArtin_M about dapper
[01:23] <scam> i though linux can play multiple things at a time
[01:23] <mArtin_M> bolthman, thanks, do u know about repositories?
[01:23] <rewt_> colm.... how do you get into the configure to set up the transparency? mine is just a black background?
[01:23] <fangorious> anyone able to use gnome's "Create PDF" print driver in epiphany?
[01:23] <LadyNikon> bolthman: under system.. admin.. network setting
[01:23] <bur[n] er> scam: maybe with XGL :)
[01:23] <mArtin_M> thanks bimberi
[01:24] <bur[n] er> scam: or at least a nice sound card
[01:24] <LadyNikon> you should see your cards
[01:24] <taylor_> is there anything that can scan ubuntu for viruses, spyware,  and anything else that can slow it down because yesterday ubnuntu was goin twice as fast
[01:24] <LadyNikon> ethernet.. modem and in my case wifi
[01:24] <bolthman> i dont know anything heheh
[01:24] <BigDaddy> Hey guys! I made it
[01:24] <scam> bur[n] er, i got a nice nvidia snd card
[01:24] <popey> taylor_: clamav
[01:24] <scam> digital
[01:24] <sandro> Hi there
[01:24] <colm> rewt_, alpha blending... - probably down to your graphics driver?  dunno just worked for me
[01:24] <fangorious> actually i guess it's a cups driver, not gnome
[01:24] <BigDaddy> I'm in Ubuntu and finally have an internet connection
[01:24] <bur[n] er> scam: oh oh oh, audio!!!
[01:24] <bimberi> mArtin_M: yw :)
[01:24] <scam> bur[n] er, what you think i said?
[01:25] <LadyNikon> bolthman: you can click on "configure"
[01:25] <bur[n] er> scam: videos
[01:25] <henk> hi, i'm installing ubuntu-desktop to a system without a physical monitor (colinux) I'd like to export the desktop to xwin running on the windows host. How can i do that best ?
[01:25] <colm> rewt_, scratch that - not alpha, thinking about drop shadows... sorry
[01:25] <rewt_> cccolm chat?
[01:25] <Smeggy> hi, I just comiled 2.6.16-rc3 on my iBook g4 in breezy without problem -- everything works perfectly -- however the sleep light on the ibook now appears to flash and function as a harddrive activity light? any suggestions as to why?
[01:25] <rewt_> *colm
[01:25] <colm> rewt_, not registred nick, meet you on #gDesklets
[01:25] <sandro> I've got a newbie question. Today i've moved my sound card to another pci slot, since my geforce needed a new cooling system (a big one), and now i've got no sound....
[01:25] <bolthman> ok! im going to leave this and i will try, im going back later ok?? thank Ladynikon!!!
[01:25] <bur[n] er> henk: cygwin... get the X server for cygwin and look for startx.bat in your windows install
[01:26] <LadyNikon> bolthman: good luck ;)
[01:26] <sandro> ....how can i manage to solve this problem?
[01:26] <BigDaddy> scam - did you install the nvidia driver yet?
[01:26] <BigDaddy> oh, you said sound card
[01:27] <BigDaddy> nm
[01:27] <scam> BigDaddy, yes
[01:27] <BigDaddy> I am getting ready to do my graphics driver
[01:27] <nm> ?
[01:27] <scam> but it doesnt let me change any settings
[01:27] <navarone> nm, nm=no matter
[01:27] <henk> bur[n] er, i think i got the windows part down (using xwin32 instead of cygwin). I was wondering about how to configure linux to get it to not use a monitor but to use an external x-server
[01:27] <bur[n] er> henk: then use putty with the "x forwarding" checkbox set and run gui apps
[01:27] <nm> hehe
[01:27] <BigDaddy> I was curious if it is any easier to do the nvidia graphics driver than it was under mandrake
[01:27] <BigDaddy> nm=nevermind
[01:27] <bur[n] er> henk: no config there... just ssh with the -X command from windows (or with teh checkbox in putty)
[01:27] <nm> no, nm = my initials, and part of the bin-utils distribution
[01:27] <nm> ;D
[01:27] <lora_> hello everyone i am new here..
[01:28] <Razor-X> nm: :D.
[01:28] <BigDaddy> hola lora_
[01:28] <lora_> hello there bigdaddy
[01:28] <Razor-X> lora_: Don't be afraid to ask a question.
[01:28] <BigDaddy> lol, sorry nm
[01:28] <dyrne> BigDaddy: nvidia is pretty painless
[01:28] <Razor-X> The only question you shouldn't ask is whether to ask a question.
[01:28] <BigDaddy> I am on the unofficail faq now
[01:28] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me with a wireless card problem?
[01:28] <henk> burner so i start the x-server on windows... run putty with -X and log in to the linux and type  startx ?
[01:29] <bur[n] er> henk: no...
[01:29] <dyrne> BigDaddy: ubuntuguide? try wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:29] <bur[n] er> you run your apps that way... login via putty and run "gaim" or "gedit" or etc.
[01:29] <henk> bur[n] er, no i want to have a full desktop running
[01:29] <lora_> I have installed ubuntu, fyi, but I have a lot of errors when trying to install wine as instructed in this site: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:29] <bur[n] er> henk: use vnc!
[01:29] <BigDaddy> is it just more up to date?
[01:29] <henk> seperate apps already work
[01:30] <LadyNikon> hey how do i set up NAT using ubuntu
[01:30] <LadyNikon> is there something i should install specifically?
[01:30] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me?
[01:30] <BigDaddy> lora_ - oh god, wine? I have never got that to work
[01:30] <dyrne> lora_: wine has a pretty good walkthrough for ubuntu on their site
[01:30] <Razor-X> Has anyone here toyed with the idea of starting X with a *very* minimalistic WM, and then starting a VNC session in it with your WM of choice?
[01:31] <Razor-X> That way, you can detach/attach your X session as you do a screen session.
[01:31] <BigDaddy> IXKoDiaKXI - I am new too, I have been all over the forums looking for help with pppoe, I kept finding wireless entries there
[01:31] <henk> bur[n] er, but how do i start ths kdm/gdm in the linux without a physical montor ? To use vnc this needs to be running i guess
[01:31] <BigDaddy> have you looked there already?
[01:31] <suzy_> Have a beautiful day , everyone........Peace
[01:31] <nm> ladynikon: you mean use your ubuntu box as a NAT router?
[01:31] <nm> or access a network through one
[01:31] <RickKnight> IXKoDiakXI:What sort of problem?
[01:32] <bur[n] er> henk: you can install tightvnc server... it doesn't depend on a local X
[01:32] <scam> whats a good program to watch movies with?
[01:32] <scam> other then toten
[01:32] <nm> brb
[01:32] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone here use OpenLDAP?
[01:32] <amphi> scam: mplayer
[01:32] <arrinmurr> Razor-X: i wonder if vnc is fast enough for normal use
[01:32] <LadyNikon> nm: yes
[01:32] <Razor-X> arrinmurr: Yeah, that's where I was wondering too. On a completely local connection, I wonder how it works.
[01:32] <Razor-X> Or maybe even a FreeNX server.
[01:32] <IXKoDiaKXI> i got my card installed using ndswrapper and everthing went fine... except when i try to specify the essid
[01:33] <IXKoDiaKXI> nothing happens it just wont connect to my router or any router for that matter
[01:33] <cappiz> is it possible to have any kind of installation of lvm with a kind of a raid support... so if one disk fails only data at that current device is lost?
[01:33] <henk> bur[n] er, that sounds alright.. so I get my ubuntu-desktop install finished. install tightvns-server, run that, install a vnc client on windows and connect to tightvnc... so how do i tell kde/gnome to run in the tightvnc ?
[01:34] <lora_> lbye everyone
[01:34] <Clint-> hi all, any good advice how I can add the kubuntu flight for testing on my ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger.. kde for some reason, doesn'  auto mount my lacie 80 gb usb/firewire  external hard drive... or should i just wait til official
[01:35] <RickKnight> IXKoDiakXI: Are you using wpa_supplicant? WHat version?
[01:35] <IXKoDiaKXI> no
[01:35] <Clint-> okay I think I know
[01:35] <IXKoDiaKXI> i tried with and with out WEP and thats it
[01:35] <Clint-> have to add repositories for the dapper..
[01:36] <Clint-> for flight :)
[01:36] <arrinmurr> Razor-X: well, it's quite easy to find out ;)
[01:36] <tatters> Ubuntu does not support clamAV but the version I am stuck with has a major vuneralabilty
[01:36] <RickKnight> IXKoDiakXI: Are you getting an IP? Assuming dhcp.
[01:36] <BigDaddy> OK, maybe I am missing something here. I opened up Synaptic. When I click the add button to add a repository, the edit window comes up. Is that normal?
[01:36] <Clint-> oh and, I been really working with building source packages, and doing quite well, just didnt' get why when I was running mplayer, it was in different languages. but played avi's and mpegs fine
[01:36] <Razor-X> arrinmurr: Meh, true that.
[01:37] <Clint-> whats that BigDaddy ?
[01:37] <tatters> unless I compile the latest version wich is beyond my scope
[01:37] <Clint-> btw.. Hi all, alias Zoo,,
[01:37] <tatters> so I install security only to be left with insecurity
[01:37] <nm> ok
[01:37] <nm> thanks for the url
[01:37] <nm> it now works
[01:37] <sorush20> can I have more than one /dev/dvd ?
[01:37] <baalthazar> wasaaaa ppl
[01:37] <nm> i added the repository to my sources list
[01:37] <nm> and updated everything
[01:38] <nm> now it works correctly
[01:38] <IXKoDiaKXI> yes im using DHCP but im not getting an IP like i said when i do iwlist wlan0 scan it shows all the router in my area but when i specify which one i want to connect to using System->Administration->Networking or iwconfig it doesnt do anything
[01:38] <nm> i had hacked together an install with a bunch of .debs
[01:38] <amphi> heh
[01:38] <BigDaddy> I am going to install my nvidia driver, so I went here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[01:38] <Clint-> anyone know best way , I can change my color of mouse.. pointer. to black :)
[01:38] <BigDaddy> When I do what it says, I do not get the add window, I get the edit window
[01:38] <BigDaddy> is it the same thing?
[01:38] <Clint-> oh btw
[01:38] <frogzoo> !acrobat
[01:38] <ubotu> frogzoo: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:38] <tatters> my wifi card has always been recognised as ra0
[01:39] <Clint-> I totaly redid my partition for open source, and gave ubuntu ReiserFS :)
[01:39] <jchillerup> Hey. I just changed reps to dapper, and now Linux fails loading with the error "ALERT! /dev/hda3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell".
[01:39] <Clint-> runs awesome. better than ext 3 :-)
[01:39] <jchillerup> Is that a known problem?
[01:39] <amphi> tatters: it's a ralink?
[01:39] <Clint-> guess I am not going mess with test flight at all :D
[01:39] <tatters> installing a beta in experienced hands has always been a know problem :P
[01:39] <Razor-X> IXKoDiaKXI: Assign it a static IP.
[01:39] <jchillerup> Hah, tatters
[01:39] <Razor-X> I do, and it works fine.
[01:40] <jchillerup> I'm not as dumb as I sound
[01:40] <RickKnight> IXKoDiakXI:Are you seeing any errors at dmesg?
[01:40] <tatters> I know jack so dont let me fool ya
[01:40] <Clint-> hey Razor-X
[01:40] <IXKoDiaKXI> when i installed it?
[01:40] <Razor-X> Clint-: Hey.
[01:40] <jchillerup> I've been running linux for like 2 years, but i'm kindda new to ubuntu
[01:40] <Clint-> I am doing so much better with ubuntu and debian :D
[01:40] <Razor-X> Mmmm, yes, 'tis the way to go.
[01:40] <Clint-> its amazed. when you actually study, and put yourself to the challenge, how much you can get done..
[01:40] <Clint-> hee
[01:41] <scam> i keep reading on the forums that the window switching button on logitech usb mouses doesnt work as a back button in linux
[01:41] <Razor-X> Clint-: Yeah, definitely.
[01:41] <scam> is that true
[01:41] <RickKnight> IXKoDiakXI:No, when you try to connect or when the appropriate module loads.
[01:41] <Razor-X> Which leads me to my quest for the 22 hour day.
[01:41] <BigDaddy> ah...my mistake people. the "edit" window is the edit repository, not edit the repository entry
[01:41] <Clint-> not using ext 3 journaling file system for ubuntu.. I chose.. ReiserfS :)
[01:41] <BigDaddy> brb
[01:41] <Clint-> running fast :D
[01:41] <IXKoDiaKXI> i dont think so ... but how could i check.. im pretty new to ubuntu
[01:41] <Razor-X> Mmmm, yeah, ReiserFS is nice.
[01:41] <Clint-> my fav :D
[01:42] <scam> ReiserFS is fast on the 64 bit :)
[01:42] <Clint-> other than blazin ole fast ufs :P
[01:42] <Clint-> reiserfs is fast in gen :D
[01:42] <Razor-X> Clint-: ufs? Isn't that like... dead? :P.
[01:42] <amphi> reiser is fast and dangerous ;)
[01:42] <Clint-> thank you Acronis Disk Director Suite :)
[01:42] <Clint-> no
[01:42] <RickKnight> IXKoDiakXI:After a connect attempt open a konsole and type dmesg.
[01:42] <BigDaddy> crap, baby is awake
[01:42] <Razor-X> ReiserFS is great for many small files, but a pain to clean up after a mess.
[01:42] <BigDaddy> bye
[01:42] <Clint-> unix file system m8, I use DesktopBSD as well, and Windows XP Pro, and I test Windows Vista for microsoft gold partners
[01:43] <amphi> 'gold partners' *snort*
[01:43] <tatters> vista looks good my only concern is tha anti poiracy mlarky I can trun my cracked xp stuff any more
[01:44] <Clint-> tatters
[01:44] <IXKoDiaKXI> RickKnight: should i use iwconfig to connect or use the networking tool?
[01:44] <tatters> well no way can I mod my hardware to run vista
[01:44] <Clint-> the services they make run by default.. should be an option to the people, and not just that, but it takes too much of a page file, and I would rather work and develop with open source
[01:44] <ubuntu> Hello.
[01:44] <Razor-X> Xfs is best for multipurpose, I've been told.
[01:45] <RickKnight> IXKoDIakXI: I would/do use iwconfig or wpa_supplicant.
[01:45] <Clint-> I tested it on my Acer Aspire 3613 WLCi , nothing but a waste of time
[01:45] <nick01> is dapper drake usable at this point |?
[01:45] <tatters> open source = poor man windows
[01:45] <ubuntu> I just loaded the Ubuntu Live, how do I partition my harddrive
[01:45] <makaveli> windoze n00b
[01:45] <tatters> lol sry not my view just sprang up in my mind
[01:46] <jchillerup> lol
[01:46] <Toma-> nick01, you can use it, just dont use it as a primary OS, AND PLZ report all bugs you find. otherwise it will be pointless
[01:46] <UFO> tatters: in windows they says... you should not use this in critical places like nuclear stations
[01:46] <ubuntu> I'm not going to, it''s my secondary
[01:46] <ubuntu> i'll report bugs
[01:46] <Toma-> lol@vista webpage not rendering correctly in firefox
[01:46] <nick01> Toma-, why not as primary OS ? :/
[01:46] <IXKoDiaKXI> RickKnight: it says "wlan0: no IPv6 routers present"
[01:46] <ubuntu> we actually are going to use ubuntu as a server
[01:46] <Clint-> k all. have to run to college fast.. drop off a dvd
[01:47] <ubuntu> to see how well ti does
[01:47] <dyrne> ubuntu: sudo cfdisk might be easiest or gparted which has a nice gui
[01:47] <Toma-> nick01, because it WILL break. maybe not now, but soon.
[01:47] <nick01> lol
[01:47] <tatters> yah nor life support machine
[01:47] <klaxian> has anyone had trouble with gtk-gnutella not finding any hosts?
[01:47] <ubuntu> i figured this
[01:47] <carpediem> what is that URL for setting up sources.list automatically?
[01:47] <RickKnight> IXKoDIakXI: I think that's just informational. Any other messages?
[01:48] <ilmio> excuseme there is a Hex editr in ubuntu? and whatt is the name?
[01:48] <ubuntu> to set it as able to map drives do i have to unlock form the roots?
[01:48] <ilmio> thanks
[01:48] <IXKoDiaKXI> the two lines before it say
[01:48] <ubuntu> i think there's a second security thing going on there. i dont want anyone to be able to change my fues, just access it
[01:48] <ubuntu> is that possible/
[01:49] <nick01> ubuntu, what's a fue ?
[01:49] <carpediem> ilmio: type "apt-cache search hex"
[01:49] <SAAD3000> hello,I just installed Ubuntu and my network card seems to be detected but I dont have connection any ideas?
[01:49] <Xenguy> klaxian: yes, the breezy gnutella didn't work for me at all
[01:49] <ubuntu> you're connected now...
[01:49] <scam> SAAD3000, dhcp?
[01:49] <IXKoDiaKXI> the line before it says IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling drive... if thats even relavent ... nothing else looks like it has anything to do with whats going on
[01:49] <SAAD3000> scam no, static.
[01:49] <IXKoDiaKXI> driver* not drive
[01:49] <Xenguy> klaxian: I had to download another deb actually
[01:50] <RickKnight> IXKoDiaKXI:What does ifconfig say about wlan0?
[01:50] <klaxian> Xenguy: do your recommendation is to get the .deb from debian testing or something?
[01:51] <SAAD3000> so?
[01:52] <jchillerup> Hey. Can I downgrade from dapper to breezy again?
[01:52] <Xenguy> klaxian: I searched the Ubu forums/wiki and found it was a known issue.  Somewhere I found a link of the sourceforge site of gnutella IIRC...
[01:52] <Xenguy> klaxian: I wouldn't use debian debs as your 1st option
[01:52] <SAAD3000> hello,I just installed Ubuntu and my network card seems to be detected but I dont have connection any ideas?
[01:52] <dyrne> jchillerup: the good news is yes you can. the bad news is it requires a reformat
[01:52] <IXKoDiaKXI> wlan0     Link encamp:Ethernet  Hwaddr 00:12:17:7E:CB:11
[01:52] <IXKoDiaKXI>               inet6 addr: fe80::212:17ff:fe7e:cb11/64 SScope:Link
[01:52] <IXKoDiaKXI> 
[01:52] <klaxian> Xenguy: perhaps i should upgrade it to the dapper version?
[01:53] <Thunderguy> Did anyone ever try to install Lincity-NG in breezy? I notice the New Ubuntu will run it fine but I don't wanna get something just for one thing
[01:53] <Toma-> SAAD3000, have you looked in System>Admin>Networking for your device/connection?
[01:53] <mk500> hi all, I'm installing ubuntu for the first time on my PC equipped with SATA boot drive...after install I get "error loading operating system"
[01:54] <Toma-> mk500, have you got windows on it too?
[01:54] <Xenguy> klaxian: I don't know if dapper is safe yet or not; might be simpler to search sourceforge etc. a bit for that deb that worked for me?  It's up to you :-)
[01:54] <mk500> yea, the first partition is xpsp2
[01:54] <darthbutcher> Hey.
[01:54] <SAAD3000> Toma- yes it seems detected and everything is right but no connection.
[01:54] <Toma-> mk500, only windows produces that error
[01:54] <SAAD3000> Toma- is there some kind of icon that displays my connection?
[01:55] <Toma-> SAAD3000, is it activated?
[01:55] <IXKoDiaKXI> RickKnight: ubuntu is on my desktop .. so i dont really have the luxory of copy and past.. so i wrote what I could
[01:55] <SAAD3000> Toma- yes it is.
[01:55] <mk500> shouldn't grub load at boot though? so I get a choice of windows and ubuntu
[01:55] <Toma-> SAAD3000, not really...
[01:55] <mk500> I never get to the choice
[01:55] <Toma-> mk500, did you choose to install grub?
[01:55] <mk500> yes
[01:55] <pepsi> IXKoDiaKXI, use synergy ;)
[01:55] <scam> SAAD3000, what does ifconfig say?
[01:55] <darthbutcher> mk500: Odd, it works for me.
[01:55] <mk500> during install, to saw that I had XP, and said it would install grub and that should be "fine"
[01:55] <SAAD3000> scam am on win now
[01:55] <Toma-> mk500, do you see "Grub loading Press "ESC" to select" or anything like that?
[01:56] <Xenguy> klaxian: actually I've got the deb here, you want it?
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Hey, anybody heard of XPDE?  Anyone use it?
[01:56] <mk500> no, I don't.....right after bios stuff, I get the "error loading operating system" message
[01:56] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, i used it once. it was buggy, ugly and crap. :) also, hasnt been updated in 3 yrs
[01:56] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: sure - install xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <darthbutcher> tonyyarusso: Hey, buddy.
[01:56] <mk500> I installed off ubuntu 5.1 DVD
[01:56] <klaxian> Xenguy: i'm gonna try adding some hosts manually first
[01:56] <SAAD3000> scam I will go back there and see but by the way during the installation it asked me to set a userpassword but didn't asked me for a root password should i always use the same?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> Toma-: erm, xfce4
[01:56] <Toma-> mk500, looks like grub didnt load right.... did you install grub to MBR or the drive you installed on?
[01:57] <Xenguy> klaxian: k
[01:57] <mk500> MBR
[01:57] <Toma-> thoreauputic, he said xpde... the bastard child of windows xp :D
[01:57] <scam> SAAD3000, ubuntu uses sudo
[01:57] <IXKoDiaKXI> pepsi: what will synergy do?
[01:57] <mk500> hmmm....I have a second drive in the machine......a normal IDE; I wonder if it could have put grub on there instead
[01:57] <Toma-> mk500, ok... thats odd :|
[01:57] <mk500> maybe I should try booting off that drive in bios, huh?
[01:57] <pepsi> IXKoDiaKXI, let you copy and paste between computers
[01:57] <Toma-> mk500, could have...
[01:58] <__mikem> Hey
[01:58] <Toma-> mk500, its worth a shot! :)
[01:58] <thoreauputic> Toma-: ah so he did - my apologies, I misread :)
[01:58] <xored> hello guys. I used the 12er kerne ( breezy, selfebacked) to run wirelesslan with WPA on my intel pro wifi chipset ( ipw2200). Therfore i compiled ipw2200 and iee myself on installed the firmware and it works and working. Now iam switching to 15-4 to have suspend2, but i cannot get the ip2200 to connect to my WPA. Any tips ?
[01:58] <Toma-> thoreauputic, no prob :D
[01:58] <__mikem> Need no help tonight, just hanging out.
[01:58] <darthbutcher> Does anyone here use KX Docker
[01:58] <mk500> thanks, I'm trying that now
[01:58] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: sorry I thought you wrote xfce ;-)
[01:58] <canofcoke> ok i screwed up my xorg.conf, what can i do to get back into ubuntu :(
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Understandable.  Just stumbled across this thing.
[01:59] <pepsi> canofcoke, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Interesting.
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> darthbutcher: Hey.
[01:59] <Toma-> canofcoke, are you at a terminal?
[01:59] <SAAD3000> scam alright thanks, I also have xp installed and it didn't automount the fat32 partitions is there a tool for that?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: the concept of XPDE is abhorent to me frankly :)
[01:59] <darthbutcher> tony: Sup?
[01:59] <Phelan> Hey, anyone on here that was helping me with Cedega before?
[01:59] <canofcoke> well i try to boot, i see the login everything goes through and then this error box comes up and says xorg is corrupt
[01:59] <canofcoke> then i log in, but not with a gui, and i can do commands there
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: My too for actual use, although it has some value in terms of running it in the presence of Windows users to see their reaction.
[02:00] <tonyyarusso> darthbutcher: Eh, not too much.
[02:00] <brenner> any laptop users?  what takes care of the close lid event?  i'd like it to just blank instead of prompting to unlock everytime i re-open.
[02:00] <pepsi> what the heck is XPDE?
[02:00] <Toma-> canofcoke, ok, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:00] <__mikem> brenner, it never does that on my laptop
[02:00] <__mikem> are you uding ubuntu, or kubuntu
[02:00] <brenner> ubuntu
[02:00] <tonyyarusso> pepsi: Apparently it's a window manager that tries to look like Windows XP.
[02:00] <__mikem> yeh, like I said
[02:00] <bina> hi, how do I go down to signle user mode in ubuntu? is it sudo init 1 ?
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> pepsi: xpde.com
[02:01] <__mikem> tony what are you talking about
[02:01] <RickKnight> IXKoDiaKXI:I have to go now. Perhaps someone here with more knowledge than I will step in to help you.
[02:01] <__mikem> what is a window manager that tries to look like winxp
[02:01] <IXKoDiaKXI> thanks anyways
[02:01] <canofcoke> thank you toma!
[02:01] <canofcoke> i will be back i hope :)
[02:01] <Toma-> canofcoke, np!
[02:01] <mk500> yeah :-) I got grub.....and ubuntu works....now to see if XP will still boot
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Download page since it only hasn't been updated for one year.
[02:01] <xored> __mikem: try microsoft.com
[02:01] <xored> __mikem: and buy it there
[02:01] <canofcoke> ubuntu effed up mine haha, windows said it was missing  hal.org
[02:02] <SAAD3000> I have xp installed and it didn't automount the fat32 partitions, is there a tool for that?
[02:02] <Toma-> mk500, winxp may not boot... but we can fix that easy
[02:02] <canofcoke> lmao .dll**
[02:02] <darthbutcher> What is the command to delete a file?
[02:02] <pepsi> heh, thats not a bad idea really.. would probably make it really easy for windows people to get used to things
[02:02] <eduardo> ola
[02:02] <Toma-> SAAD3000, you sure its fat32 and not ntfs?
[02:02] <darthbutcher> sudo apt-remove ?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[02:02] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: A window manager I stumbled across.  Not for real Linux users, but good for countering one of the arguments Windows users have against switching.
[02:02] <darthbutcher> sudo apt-rmv
[02:02] <SAAD3000> Toma- my C is NTFS and the others are Fat32
[02:02] <darthbutcher> ?
[02:02] <xored> SAAD3000: man fstab
[02:02] <Toma-> pepsi, its horrible. just use KDE and get an xp theme
[02:02] <eduardo> hello
[02:02] <__mikem> wow, tony xpde looks like sh*t
[02:02] <pepsi> im at the point where i think id rather not have a fancy window manager though... im under the impression that xfce is like that, is that true or no?
[02:03] <darthbutcher> nevermind
[02:03] <darthbutcher> I got it.
[02:03] <allan__> can anyone know why i've got this error message everytime i launch the synaptic package manager?  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:03] <navarone> allan__, means repos server is down for some reason
[02:03] <thoreauputic> pepsi: xfce4 is a desktop - but leaner and quicker than gnome
[02:03] <brenner> allan__: means your apt cache has been deleted, update
[02:03] <__mikem> I like to use KDE however, the way the kubuntu package is set up, its next to imposible to customize it, not to mention, if you install it on a system that is also running gnome, half the programs don't work for some reason
[02:03] <bimberi> allan__: hit the reload button (in synaptic) and see if that fixes it
[02:04] <SAAD3000> Toma- why it doesn't read NTFS partitions?
[02:04] <thoreauputic> pepsi: have a look at http://xwinman.org
[02:04] <Toma-> SAAD3000, because ntfs is evil >:)
[02:04] <SAAD3000> cool :>
[02:04] <xored> SAAD3000: it can read, but writing is not supported
[02:04] <xored> hello guys. I used the 12er kerne ( breezy, selfebacked) to run wirelesslan with WPA on my intel pro wifi chipset ( ipw2200). Therfore i compiled ipw2200 and iee myself on installed the firmware and it works and working. Now iam switching to 15-4 to have suspend2, but i cannot get the ip2200 to connect to my WPA. Any tips ?
[02:04] <__mikem> wel we are on the topic of kde and other desktops, did you hear that the next version of mepis is going to be ubuntu based, now ubuntu can truely say it has its own dirivitives
[02:04] <SAAD3000> xored If i want to emulate a game in the NTFS partition would it do that?
[02:05] <__mikem> (actually it could for a while but MEPIS is a big name)
[02:05] <Toma-> SAAD3000, ntfs is a dangerous filesystem that isnt fully supported yet in ubuntu
[02:05] <xored> SAAD3000: do you want to run a w32 game ? no you cannot run games on a read only partition
[02:05] <Phelan> Tonyyarusso: Hey, I was on here Saturday and Sunday askin for help installin Cedega. Just thought I'd let ya know, I've got it figured out, but I also found an unofficial Ubuntu guide site that has a cedega installer tutorial. Don't know how effective it is, since I haven't read it. :S
[02:05] <thoreauputic> __mikem: is that confirmed? I thought it was just a rumour...
[02:05] <__mikem> YEs it is
[02:05] <SAAD3000> xored oke thanx
[02:05] <__mikem> It will happen
[02:05] <thoreauputic> ah interesting
[02:05] <darthbutcher> Hey, __mikem.
[02:05] <xored> Toma-: its not dangerous, its just not free..
[02:05] <__mikem> HEllo, took you long enough to notice me
[02:06] <SAAD3000> Toma- thanx gtg check the ifconfig
[02:06] <Clint-> oops okay yeah lol
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> Phelan: Good to know.
[02:06] <Clint-> me doing that custom file system for ubuntu, changed some things.. took out the Graphical System Start up Services
[02:06] <Breeze> attempting to write to it however is dangerous and not something you should try, SAAD3000 ;)
[02:06] <Toma-> xored, yeh, and hence dangerous, because its not fully implimented :D meaning bugs will make filesystem go kaboom!
[02:07] <jchillerup> "ALERT! /dev/hda3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[02:07] <jchillerup> :(
[02:07] <Phelan> Tony: I know there were a couple other people askin about it. I might start frequenting here more to learn stuff, so maybe I can offer help on the subject of cedega if it comes up again. ^^
[02:07] <jchillerup> Is that a udev or a kernel problem?
[02:07] <carpediem> jchillerup: did you switch kernels recently? happened to me too
[02:07] <vladuz976> what is the executable for openoffice 2 ?
[02:07] <jchillerup> carpediem, yeah, I updated to dapper yesterday
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Do you have a recommendation for an XP theme for KDE to fool my friends with?
[02:08] <carpediem> jchillerup: If I pick a previous kernel from the boot menu, the problem goes away
[02:08] <navarone> jchillerup, try "fdisk -l" in terminal and paste output to pastebin
[02:08] <jchillerup> I tried that
[02:08] <Clint-> questino
[02:08] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, theres a bunch of full packages at kde-look.org
[02:08] <Clint-> you don't need the OSD plugin for xmms do ya
[02:08] <Clint-> An XMMS plugin which displays volume and track information like
[02:08] <Clint-> on-screen displays on TVs and monitors.
[02:08] <jchillerup> But that kernel won't load X
[02:08] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: try oo <tab> <tab>  ;)
[02:08] <jchillerup> And navarone, moment
[02:08] <allan__> thank you
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Any one better than the others?
[02:08] <jchillerup> navarone, is it all right to say that my partition tables look all right?
[02:09] <jchillerup> Cause I can't really copy-paste
[02:09] <navarone> jchillerup, if it makes you fell okay sure...<s>
[02:09] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, dunno. try em out :)
[02:09] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, my perception of XP is long gone.
[02:09] <navarone> jchillerup, so hda3 shows in output?
[02:09] <jchillerup> navarone, I am not as dumb as I sound. Yes, the partition tables are all right.
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Fair enough!  (Used the Classic look when I was on XP anyway, but hey!)
[02:10] <navarone> jchillerup, I accuse no one of being dumb...except trolls and spammers...and spamming trolls...well don't get me started
[02:11] <mrproper> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXRes
[02:11] <mrproper> How can I fix thsat?
[02:11] <jchillerup> Heh, navarone
[02:11] <jchillerup> but I do have linux experience
[02:11] <carpediem> I just think there's a dapper kernel problem with LVM or reiserfs, but that's just a guess.
[02:11] <jchillerup> Oooooh
[02:11] <jchillerup> Cause my hda3 happens to be a reiserfs partition
[02:12] <carpediem> yep, wouldn't mount mine either. I had to go back to breezy with a rescue CD
[02:12] <mk500> Toma-: Wow, xp booted fine. This is great! Thanks to all for the help!
[02:12] <carpediem> maybe they didn't compile reiser support into the kernel at all...and you'll never get it working if so
[02:12] <jchillerup> No, I know
[02:13] <jchillerup> But then it should hang later in the boot process
[02:13] <Clint-> you can if you know how
[02:13] <Clint-> who says noone can do anything :-)
[02:13] <bllx> can someone tell me please, is it normal to have a folder called 'bootstrap' with yaboot inside, in your /media dir?
[02:13] <darthbutcher> !amarok
[02:13] <ubotu> it has been said that amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[02:13] <Phuzion> So, I assume the Ubuntu sites went back to 100% online?
[02:13] <carpediem> jchillerup: what if grub can't read reiserfs, then
[02:13] <darthbutcher> !updateamarok
[02:13] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <Jolly> i got popups when i use epiphany web browser now does anyone know how i can get rid of them
[02:14] <BigDaddy> back again
[02:14] <Clint-> hee
[02:14] <Toma-> mk500, np!
[02:14] <Clint-> mp3 back in.. dvd to go
[02:14] <jchillerup> carpediem, then it should hang earlier
[02:14] <adriyel> sudo apt-get upgrade amarok
[02:14] <jchillerup> I think
[02:14] <jchillerup> busybox isn't grub, is it
[02:14] <Phuzion> Alright, so I want to install Unreal IRCD to my server, how would I go about building it?
[02:14] <Clint-> and then. mplayer.. for mov.. quicktime. but erm.. I am going strip a unix version, and build quicktime from source :-)
[02:14] <BigDaddy> can I get some help from someone who has done the nvidia driver?
[02:14] <brenner> bllx: dunno if it's normal, but i certainly don't have it
[02:14] <Clint-> they be like... Clint built and compiled Quicktim for ubuntu breezy :D
[02:15] <Clint-> heck. for debian world wide :)
[02:15] <bllx> i think its a bootstrap partition left over from a previous Ubuntu install on that disk. Erased the disk in OS X and that partition's still there
[02:15] <BigDaddy> the nvidia driver does control screen res, right?
[02:15] <carpediem> jchillerup: don't know.  Grub is on the boot sector, then tries to mount the partition with the kernel, and pass control to the kernel, right?  So if it can't mount the partition with the kernel, it dies right there.
[02:15] <Clint-> yes
[02:15] <Phuzion> BigDaddy:  Yes
[02:15] <Clint-> for you vendor
[02:15] <Clint-> :)
[02:15] <Clint-> I know how ya feel.. had to compile driver for nvidia for my DesktopBSd
[02:16] <Phuzion> BigDaddy:  Anything that has to do with the video output of your PC is controlled by the graphics card and drivers.
[02:16] <BigDaddy> I swear I did everything to the letter, & I can do no better than
[02:16] <Clint-> yep
[02:16] <BigDaddy> 1024x768
[02:16] <BigDaddy> damn numlock
[02:16] <Clint-> it tell it.. what to do. and what the hardware should be able to display.. refresh rates and al :-)
[02:16] <BigDaddy> thought so
[02:16] <Clint-> you lucky you ain't have ot configure debian :-)
[02:16] <Clint-> then ya really be pissed.. ;)
[02:17] <Clint-> but.. reading is so powerful.. :-)
[02:17] <brenner> bllx: maybe check mount to see what device it links to
[02:17] <bllx> yes its what i thought it was
[02:17] <jchillerup> carpediem, I don't think it is.. Especially not when it's writing something like "Loading Linux"
[02:18] <jchillerup> It does load Linux, but something goes wrong in init
[02:18] <BigDaddy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[02:18] <bllx> i wonder why os X disk util didnt erase the bootstrap partition when it partiitioned the disk
[02:18] <Clint-> you all hear that about.. Linus not realeasing GPL 2 or was it 3
[02:18] <BigDaddy> that is what i did
[02:18] <brenner> BigDaddy: well, what res. do you want?
[02:18] <amphi> Clint-: linus and rms disagree, news at 11
[02:18] <BigDaddy> 1280x1024
[02:19] <brenner> BigDaddy: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[02:19] <BigDaddy> I know my card will do it too
[02:19] <amphi> BigDaddy: should be 1280x960 (unless you object to square pixels ;)
[02:19] <bllx> whats the best linux tool for thoroughly formatting a disk, zapping all partitions
[02:19] <BigDaddy> ...ok...what is pastebin?
[02:19] <carpediem> BigDaddy: see the topic
[02:19] <brenner> !pastebin
[02:19] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:19] <Clint-> ah
[02:20] <Clint-> hi amphi
[02:20] <Clint-> he don't have nothing to do with me and unix though :D
[02:20] <amphi> hi Clint-
[02:20] <__mikem> Those chatroom bots are such a blast
[02:20] <amphi> Clint-: who?
[02:21] <darthbutcher> I need some help.
[02:21] <amphi> darthbutcher: not again ;)
[02:21] <darthbutcher> login@UbuntuGamma:~$ echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy main" \
[02:21] <darthbutcher> >   >> /etc/apt/sources.li
[02:21] <darthbutcher> bash: /etc/apt/sources.li: Permission denied
[02:21] <darthbutcher> How can I fix that?
[02:22] <amphi> you can't echo with sudo, you must use an editor
[02:22] <Clint-> ubuntu breezy though. has some bugs with.. mp3
[02:22] <Clint-> failed to open oss driver and crap >_<
[02:22] <sidd> What is an I/O error?
[02:22] <Digit9> Hey I need help mounting a harddrive, and someone help me out?
[02:22] <sizzam> if i am playing an mp3, i can't get audio out of flash in firefox, but I can get audio out of other apps.  anyone have a fix for this?
[02:22] <Digit9> can*
[02:22] <brenner> Clint-: what player?
[02:22] <Clint-> xmms
[02:22] <darthbutcher> login@UbuntuGamma:~$ echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy main" \
[02:22] <darthbutcher> >   >> /etc/apt/sources.li
[02:22] <darthbutcher> bash: /etc/apt/sources.li: Permission denied
[02:22] <darthbutcher> Please help.
[02:23] <sidd> I am trying to open a ".ext" rile with text editor, and it says that there is an I/O error that prevents me from opening it
[02:23] <BigDaddy> OK, where is xorg.conf?
[02:23] <amphi> darthbutcher: use an editor to add the line
[02:23] <insidious> hey, anyone have the netbeans 5.0 installer?  their download link is down
[02:23] <ownerx> sidd is that from a cd
[02:23] <Clint-> hi brenner.. and thats why I used Xandros for while.. but not enough power :)
[02:23] <brenner> Clint-: switch to the esound output plugin
[02:23] <darthbutcher> What?
[02:23] <amphi> BigDaddy: /etc/X11
[02:23] <Clint-> k
[02:23] <amphi> BigDaddy: locate is your friend
[02:23] <sidd> ownerx, no it's a database on my ipod
[02:23] <insidious> or have a link to it
[02:23] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: or  echo <stuff> | dudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <darthbutcher> What goes in stuff?
[02:23] <sidd> ownerx mounted ipod
[02:23] <thoreauputic> duh s/ddudo/sudo
[02:23] <vladuz976> i installed with "server" how can i add the boot splash now?
[02:23] <BigDaddy> lol, what is locate?
[02:24] <Clint-> hahahaha
[02:24] <BigDaddy> I have been in ubuntu forabout 2 hours now
[02:24] <amphi> BigDaddy: man locate
[02:24] <Digit9> Can someone help me find & mount a harddrive?
[02:24] <Clint-> thanks :) :) :)
[02:24] <Clint-> :D :D :D
[02:24] <Toma-> vladuz976, get the usplash package
[02:24] <Clint-> ^_^
[02:24] <rewt_> download gTweakUI to add a splash screen easily.
[02:24] <navarone> BigDaddy go to Applications/acess/terminal and type "locate xorg.conf"
[02:24] <darthbutcher> echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy" | dudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <darthbutcher> Would that be it?
[02:24] <BigDaddy> is man locate a terminal command?
[02:24] <Clint-> brenner. want to team up with a reverse engineer.. of Robert morris college ;)
[02:24] <Clint-> ty m8 for that ;)
[02:24] <amphi> BigDaddy: it uses a database to quickly find files on your system
[02:24] <Clint-> played like snap ;)
[02:24] <thoreauputic> BigDaddy: yes
[02:24] <brenner> Clint-: if you asked in here, you wouldn't have had to use xandros :P
[02:24] <amphi> BigDaddy: locate xorg.conf for example
[02:25] <darthbutcher> Dudo not found.
[02:25] <Clint-> muahah
[02:25] <rewt_> sudo not dudo
[02:25] <Clint-> working great :)
[02:25] <catchphrase> mouse and keyboard freezes when i open up Software Updates...
[02:25] <BigDaddy> kinda like grep then?
[02:25] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher:  typo - should have been sudo
[02:25] <amphi> darthbutcher: sudo
[02:25] <Clint-> oss was being a biatch :)
[02:25] <brenner> Clint-: doing what exactly?
[02:25] <darthbutcher> Oh!
[02:25] <Clint-> Computer Science, Network Specialist.. Systems Engineering
[02:25] <Clint-> man I owe you 1 for that
[02:25] <phreak97> soooo good to be back in linux
[02:26] <brenner> Clint-: np, common problem
[02:26] <Clint-> hey.. I gave ubuntu the ReiserFS Jourlanling File System, but erm, it didnt' detect my windows xp pro, erm. maybe boot up my acronis :D
[02:26] <rewt_> Anyone else want to help? My sound crashed....DRivers and HW are fine. I hear login sounds when I'm logging in. Afterwards, they cease to exist.
[02:26] <BigDaddy> brenner - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8617
[02:26] <Clint-> made ubuntu faster than ext3.. but I wonder if its worth it, I been trying study how file systems work. some great for performance, some for mass storage handling, and stable. o_O
[02:26] <BigDaddy> there is my xorg.conf
[02:26] <BigDaddy> brb, need water
[02:26] <rewt_> we are in #gDesklets trying to fix it
[02:27] <darthbutcher> So: sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:27] <Clint-> bi
[02:27] <Clint-> big
[02:27] <Clint-> problems with agp
[02:27] <Clint-> ?
[02:27] <Clint-> see nvidia site :)
[02:27] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: that's the bit after the pipe :)  (  | )
[02:27] <darthbutcher> I know.
[02:27] <thoreauputic> ok
[02:27] <darthbutcher> So, I put them in as seperate lines?
[02:27] <Clint-> I have an Nvidia on my workstation, but I messin with DesktopBSD, and I run Xandros on it, and .. ubuntu, and.. things :)
[02:28] <Clint-> and Windows XP Pro, for my CAD engineering.. Rhino3d and maxon :-)
[02:28] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: no, you put the echo before the pipe on one line
[02:28] <nandro> trying to install real player 10, when I do the ./ before the bin like ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: command not found
[02:28] <sidd> Is there a way to change ownership/permissions on my mounted drive so that I can delete files?
[02:28] <setuid> Question: I've just broken my system by trying to upgrade to dapper. What meta-package do Ineed to install a full Xorg?
[02:28] <Clint-> that osd plugin.. a piece of crap. ;)
[02:28] <brenner> nandro: is it executable?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: just open the file with an editor as amphi  suggests
[02:29] <nandro> just thought of that
[02:29] <darthbutcher> What file?
[02:29] <brenner> nandro: chmod +x RealPlayrblah
[02:29] <nandro> trying it now
[02:29] <darthbutcher> I am so effing confused!
[02:29] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: less risky :)
[02:29] <nandro> thanks
[02:29] <Clint-> brenner
[02:29] <darthbutcher> I am trying to update Amarok.
[02:29] <adriyel> sudo apt-get upgrade amarok
[02:29] <jchillerup> setuid, I have the same problem
[02:29] <psusi> setuid, how about ubuntu-desktop?
[02:29] <william> how can i get the scroll thing on my touchpad working?
[02:29] <setuid> psusi: broken package
[02:29] <Clint-> you good with dvd modification.. because I compiled mplayer, and did all the program language it needed and auto make and stuff, but not as good graphics like my windows xp
[02:30] <Clint-> and quicktime. :(
[02:30] <darthbutcher> sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list makes it go to the side.
[02:30] <BigDaddy> clint - AGP? Are you talking to me?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: you misunderstod the command
[02:30] <Clint-> and couldn't get dam vlc to play dvd :( and when played mov* files... was not good like my windows xp pro
[02:30] <Clint-> if I can fix all that, be glad to have a smile :)
[02:30] <adriyel> darthbutcher: sudo apt-get upgrade amarok
[02:30] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: just do  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:31] <setuid> psusi: any other ideas?
[02:31] <Clint-> you all should get paid some $$ :D
[02:31] <BigDaddy> I have a GT-6600 PCI-express SLI 128mb card
[02:31] <Clint-> nice
[02:31] <Clint-> hey BigDaddy
[02:31] <darthbutcher> Ok.
[02:31] <darthbutcher> I am in the file.
[02:31] <darthbutcher> Now what?
[02:31] <Clint-> ***
[02:31] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: putting random repos in your sources list is probably not A Good THing (tm)
[02:31] <Clint-> my Acer Aspire 3613 WLCi has PCI express lol
[02:31] <BigDaddy> yeah clint?
[02:31] <Clint-> ^_^
[02:31] <darthbutcher> I AM SO CONFUSED!
[02:32] <darthbutcher> This is the first thing to confuse me in Linux
[02:32] <dondong> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <Clint-> whats that darthbutcher
[02:32] <ChrisD89> hey all, i'm having some trouble installing (k)ubuntu on to a new, clean system
[02:32] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: amarok is available in universe I think
[02:32] <thoreauputic> !info amarok
[02:32] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[02:32] <brenner> BigDaddy: you didn't have the 1280x960 res in your modelines
[02:32] <Clint-> yeah for kde :D
[02:32] <adriyel> ,      ... ?
[02:32] <brenner> BigDaddy: i've added them: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8618
[02:32] <darthbutcher> FREAT!
[02:32] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: actually its in main...
[02:32] <darthbutcher> GREAT!*
[02:32] <BigDaddy> brenner - do I need to edit that file for every resolution that I want?
[02:32] <Clint-> ;)
[02:32] <darthbutcher> Now, I can't remove Amarok.
[02:33] <Knowerrors> after installing new drives or partitions, is there a way to get fstab auto populated?  My second harddrive and my windows partition on first drive aren't recognized
[02:33] <BigDaddy> I thought that is what the driver did
[02:33] <Clint-> I have to say.. gxine is awesome :)
[02:33] <adriyel> darthbutcher: sudo apt-get upgrade amarok
[02:33] <thoreauputic> darthbutcher: why do you want to remove it ?
[02:33] <ChrisD89> sorry to be a total noob but can anyone see what i'm writing? irc scares me
[02:33] <tanubis> anyone know how to get .wmv files playing properly?
[02:33] <frogzoo> Clint-: odd that it's not the default really, isn't it?
[02:33] <thoreauputic> ChrisD89: yep we see :)
[02:33] <BigDaddy> you are fine ChrisD89
[02:33] <brenner> BigDaddy: what probably happened is that xorg didn't detect your settings properly
[02:33] <ChrisD89> cheers
[02:33] <navarone> ChrisD89, you're here...easy as she goes bud
[02:33] <frogzoo> ChrisD89: see what?
[02:33] <carpediem> ubuntu assumes if you want to uninstall amarok, you must be insane.
[02:34] <darthbutcher> darthbutcher@UbuntuGamma:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade amarok
[02:34] <darthbutcher> E: Type 'apt-get' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <darthbutcher> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:34] <Clint-> yeah lmao
[02:34] <setuid> jchillerup: Did you figure it out?
[02:34] <Clint-> hey.. I go by Zoo as well.. >_<
[02:34] <Clint-> :P
[02:34] <Zoo> :-)
[02:34] <BigDaddy> brenner - so I didn't do anything wrong?
[02:34] <Zoo> thats a gag.. been my nick for some gtime.. lool
[02:34] <ChrisD89> can anyone help me install linux?  I've read the documentation fully and i've re-dowloaded and re-burned the image and tried various different hdds and cd-drives to install to
[02:34] <Zoo> think I'm going to....
[02:34] <thoreauputic> !tell darthbutcher about sources
[02:34] <gZoo> :P
[02:34] <carpediem> darthbutcher: you messed up your sources.list, or something did
[02:34] <brenner> BigDaddy: no
[02:35] <BigDaddy> so all I need to do is overwrite my whole xorg.conf file with your corection and save the file. then press ctrl+alt+backspace?
[02:35] <darthbutcher> Think Synaptic will help?
[02:35] <corvax> darth put your sources in pastebin
[02:35] <brenner> ChrisD89: what's happening
[02:35] <adriyel> how did you mangle your sources?
[02:35] <adriyel> gah.
[02:35] <brenner> BigDaddy: yes, but hang on.  i want to check something else before you do
[02:35] <darthbutcher> adriyel: Yes.
[02:35] <navarone> adriyel what was with the cyrillic a while ago...?
[02:36] <BigDaddy> brenner - waiting on you then
[02:36] <zubuntu> :-)
[02:36] <brenner> BigDaddy: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[02:36] <nandro> installing RP10 worked perfect after making it executable.  Will it play content from within FF?
[02:36] <BigDaddy> all one line?
[02:36] <brenner> BigDaddy: run that please
[02:36] <brenner> BigDaddy: yes
[02:36] <Psi-Jack> Well, I'm fricken impressed. Kubuntu's LDAP server handles full proper LDAPv3 binding.
[02:36] <ChrisD89> brenner: i stick the cd in the drive, reboot, set up partitioning, it starts installing and then it comes up with an error.  If it doesn't come up with an error there, it comes up with one when it's copying the files over.  It's said it's missing the kernel amongst other things
[02:36] <Clint|> :)
[02:37] <carpediem> anyone know a repo that has monodevelop-java?
[02:37] <navarone> Clint|, very impressive...<s>
[02:37] <BigDaddy> brenner - VESA BIOS Extensions not detected.
[02:37] <BigDaddy> what does that mean?
[02:37] <Psi-Jack> I have literally spent DAYS, compiling, re-compiling, and re-compiling OpenLDAP & Cyrus-SASL, just trying to get SASL binding to work. :/
[02:37] <ba> i left 10 ubuntu cd's in the office at my community collage and they were gone in a week
[02:37] <Clint|> me and gxine, wen ew mates :-)
[02:37] <nandro> ChrisD89, I have had that happen when I had a bad copy
[02:37] <ba> im so proud :D
[02:37] <Clint|> hi navarone
[02:37] <Clint|> good to see you again hee
[02:37] <darthbutcher> login@UbuntuGamma:~$ sudo apt-get remove amarok
[02:37] <darthbutcher> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:37] <darthbutcher> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:38] <ChrisD89> nandro: i've tried Ubuntu breezy, warty and kubuntu breezy
[02:38] <carpediem> darthbutcher: then you have synaptic package manager open, or the update tool.
[02:38] <darthbutcher> login@UbuntuGamma:~$ sudo apt-get remove amarok
[02:38] <darthbutcher> E: Type 'apt-get' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:38] <darthbutcher> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:38] <brenner> BigDaddy: i was trying to autodetect your monitor rates to double check the ones you have in xorg.conf....but nnevermind.  you can overwrite and try and restart X like you said now.
[02:38] <corvax> resource unavailable
[02:38] <nandro> ChrisD89, are you using the same disk ie. rewriteable?
[02:38] <darthbutcher> My sources are fuxx0red.
[02:38] <carpediem> darthbutcher: you messed up your sources.list, just like I said five minutes ago
[02:38] <corvax> means somthing else is using it
[02:38] <darthbutcher> How do I fix it?
[02:38] <corvax> like you have another terminal running
[02:38] <corvax> it
[02:38] <corvax> ir
[02:38] <corvax> or
[02:38] <ChrisD89> nandro: no, about 10 different CDRs
[02:39] <corvax> synaptic
[02:39] <carpediem> darthbutcher: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:39] <Knowerrors> Can someone help with installing a new harddrive (2nd) ubuntu won't mount it no matter what I do to fstab
[02:39] <carpediem> darthbutcher: and find line 36
[02:39] <nandro> ChrisD89, thats weird, I had that problem with a few dvd-rw's and finally got one to work
[02:39] <carpediem> darthbutcher: and notice it doesn't look anything like the rest of the lines.
[02:39] <darthbutcher> apt-get update
[02:39] <nandro> ChrisD89, was very frustrating, especialy since straight debian worked fine
[02:39] <BigDaddy> brenner - I will have to close all open windows, so I will be back in a min
[02:40] <darthbutcher> Line 36: apt-get update
[02:40] <brenner> BigDaddy: ok
[02:40] <ChrisD89> nandro: i can't get mandrake 10 to install either :S
[02:40] <carpediem> darthbutcher: delete it
[02:40] <carpediem> darthbutcher: not sure how you got that in there
[02:40] <Clint|> be back.. going to do just a default installation
[02:40] <carpediem> darthbutcher: did you echo it into the file, or use >> ?  looks like it.
[02:40] <navarone> Knowerrors, could you paste your current fstab in pastebin
[02:40] <Ralith> I'm on a newly installed system, nothing odd that I'm aware of in the install/config other than that it's a laptop (Acer Aspire 9500) and X won't start. My config is at http://nonexiste.net/~ralith/xorg.conf and my log is at http://nonexiste.net/~ralith/Xorg.0.log . The error, found in that log, that I think is at the heart of it is (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth.
[02:40] <nandro> ChrisD89, have you tried a minimal install and grab most of the stuff from the web?  BTW, mandrake sucks in comparison as I tried it and suse also
[02:41] <Clint|> hey all
[02:41] <darthbutcher> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[02:41] <corvax> darth copy and paste your sources.list here   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:41] <darthbutcher> Now that is the last line.
[02:41] <nandro> ChrisD89, have you tried regular debian net install?
[02:41] <ChrisD89> nandro: i've tried 'server' install
[02:41] <ChrisD89> nandro: i've not had the time, patience or bandwidth
[02:41] <Clint|> when I get back, can anyone in here. that has optimize there ubuntu system.. for high performance, partner up with me. and give me good advice of a list of all services that I can stop that I don't use or need.. plz
[02:41] <navarone> ChrisD89, nandro is correct...mandrake can't compare to ubuntu
[02:41] <ChrisD89> lol
[02:41] <corvax> someone post their list
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> dumb question: Where are the settings for themes in KDE?
[02:41] <Clint|> nah
[02:42] <corvax> so the dude can copy it
[02:42] <darthbutcher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8619
[02:42] <ChrisD89> navarone: that's my point really, i suspect that there's a hardware problem but one i don't know how to diagnose
[02:42] <carpediem> tonyyarusso: KControlCenter, I think
[02:42] <Clint|> I was mad at mandrake so many times, and it was the first distribution I ever tried
[02:42] <nandro> navarone, seems like manflakes wants you to pay for access to the servers for updates and such
[02:42] <Ralith> agreed; mandrake's no fun.
[02:42] <Clint|> dam slow rpm
[02:42] <eidolon> hi folks, i'm at my wits end trying to get amarok to play mp3's.  every wiki, every page says 'just install libmad0 and gstreamer, then run gst-register-0.8, and it'll work
[02:42] <Clint|> base system :D
[02:42] <Clint|> hey Ralith
[02:42] <nandro> mandrake used to be descent
[02:42] <eidolon> well, i've done that, and amaroq refuses to play mp3's.  help?
[02:42] <Clint|> its commercial
[02:42] <eidolon> amarok, rather.
[02:42] <Clint|> just like red hat
[02:42] <carpediem> eidolon: no, that's not right.
[02:42] <Clint|> pffft.. ;)
[02:42] <eidolon> carpediem: oooo.  do tell, please.
[02:43] <carpediem> eidolon: you need gstreamer-0.8-lame, or something like that
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> carpediem: All right, looking...
[02:43] <navarone> nandro...I gave up at 9.2 when i hosed the partition table trying to update after getting my ehternet to work...lol
[02:43] <Ralith> anyone here have much X configuration experience?
[02:43] <darthbutcher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8619
[02:43] <Clint|> somewhat
[02:43] <Psi-Jack> saslpasswd2: generic failure <-- Why do I get this error, trying to create a password for a new user, using saslpasswd2 -c -a slapd <username> ?
[02:43] <Ralith> Clint|: mind if I msg you the relevant info?
[02:43] <Knowerrors> navarone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8620
[02:43] <eidolon> i don't see gstreamer-anything-lame in apt-cache search
[02:44] <nandro> navarone, ever notice mandrake really embeds itself in there, cant even get it off by formatting with a floppy
[02:44] <SAAD3000> hello,Iam behind a proxy and i configured the proxy and everything is fine and I also can ping myself but I can't access the internet,am on win now.
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> carpediem: You are correct, and I found it.
[02:44] <carpediem> eidolon: ah, yes, gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:44] <eidolon> *sigh* i have that.
[02:44] <eidolon> i think
[02:44] <Clint|> well.. I'm not an expert with linux and unix hardware configuration yet
[02:44] <BigDaddy> brenner - really dumb question. it won't let me change the read only properties of xorg.conf
[02:44] <Clint|> but thats what I aim at.. and security.. and development
[02:44] <Ralith> as far as I can tell it's not a hardware problem
[02:44] <Ralith> msg'ing
[02:44] <brenner> Ralith: what's the problem?
[02:44] <tanubis> does anyone know how I'd go about getting my firefox 1.0.7 to play windows media player embedded junk?
[02:44] <Clint|> ah
[02:44] <BigDaddy> I can't overwrite
[02:44] <navarone> Knowerrors, is this a dapper or breezy install?
[02:44] <Ralith> or I can use brenner :)
[02:44] <brenner> BigDaddy: use sudo
[02:44] <darthbutcher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8605
[02:44] <eidolon> dpkg -l shows I have it already:
[02:44] <eidolon> ii  gstreamer0.8-mad          0.8.11-6ubuntu1           MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer
[02:44] <Clint|> yeah.. he knows more with open source m8
[02:44] <darthbutcher> Is that source list ok?
[02:44] <Psi-Jack> Hmm..
[02:45] <Clint|> I'm still studying all my books
[02:45] <BigDaddy> sudo then what? sudo file manager?
[02:45] <carpediem> eidolon: okay....first, can you play mp3s in totem and rhythmbox?
[02:45] <eidolon> i can play them in xmms....
[02:45] <navarone> nandro...I think I used diskwipe to wipe the drive
[02:45] <Knowerrors> navarone: its breezy, and that fstab is original, not edited by me
[02:45] <Clint|> got so many books on linux, and unix, and even Debian 3.1 Bible. I so busy ;)
[02:45] <eidolon> i haven't tried anything else, does that help?
[02:45] <Ralith> hehe
[02:45] <carpediem> eidolon: no
[02:45] <SAAD3000> Why I can't access the internet from Ubuntu?
[02:45] <eidolon> okay, one moment.
[02:45] <brenner> BigDaddy: sudo <editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <Clint|> ep hee
[02:45] <ghoulee> SAAD3000:  ubuntu is the internet
[02:45] <carpediem> eidolon: xmms doesn't use gstreamer, totem and rhythmbox do (and so does amarok by default on ubuntu)
[02:45] <Ralith> brenner: check your msg's
[02:45] <Clint|> seems like.. dhcp didn't go well?
[02:45] <eidolon> (i'm using KDE, btw, so rhythmbox is a gnome app, yah?)
[02:45] <darthbutcher> Anybody?
[02:45] <SAAD3000> ghoulee right.
[02:46] <nandro> navarone, you have to, I dont know what it does, but its not like debian in the way it embeds itself in the drive
[02:46] <brenner> Ralith: i'm not getting anything. are you registered?
[02:46] <carpediem> eidolon: yeah...if you don't have it installed, see if you have totem
[02:46] <Ralith> eck.
[02:46] <Clint|> debian is a deloper system
[02:46] <navarone> Knowerrors, is the new drive in the machine and did you run the drives setup cd to partiton and format?
[02:46] <eidolon> i'd rather not install all of gnome (this is kubuntu dapper)
[02:46] <Ralith> I'm registered, but not auth'd
[02:46] <nandro> eidolon, shouldnt matter really
[02:46] <yanimax> hi
[02:46] <SAAD3000> Iam behind a proxy and i configured the proxy and everything is fine and I also can ping myself but I can't access the internet,am on win now.
[02:46] <eidolon> totem is not installed either. :(
[02:46] <carpediem> eidolon: okay, then why not switch to using Arts
[02:46] <Clint|> I would think, anyone in here, that thinks like me as an open minded, vision.. uses that.. to build off. and make better distributions
[02:46] <darthbutcher> Oh.
[02:46] <darthbutcher> Nevermind.
[02:46] <Ralith> brenner: there, that should do it
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> carpediem: On the other hand, that doesn't let me choose the them I downloaded...
[02:46] <darthbutcher> It is working now(sudo apt-get remove).
[02:47] <BigDaddy> brenner - nothing is happening
[02:47] <Nightshade> How can I setup a caching nameserver for my LAN using Breezy?
[02:47] <yanimax> what do i need to open (take some of the content of) .noarch.rpm files on ubuntu ?
[02:47] <eidolon> carpediem: i dunno.  why not?  :)  i thought kde was moving away from arts, and i've had problem with arts delaying and/or grabbing my audio device and not letting other apps talk to it (non-kde apps)
[02:47] <Clint|> hey all.. see you soon
[02:47] <BigDaddy> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:47] <brenner> BigDaddy: gedit's not opening up?
[02:47] <carpediem> eidolon: there's an engine setting in the prefs for amarok
[02:47] <eidolon> yup, it's set to gstreamer.
[02:47] <eidolon> there's no other engines.
[02:47] <SAAD3000> how come that  i can access the internet from xp and not from Ubuntu???
[02:48] <BigDaddy> brenner - no, the cursor went to the line right under the prompt. it's not blinking or anything
[02:48] <eidolon> ah.  /me apt-get installs amarok-arts
[02:48] <Ralith> SAAD3000: there could be a number of causes.
[02:48] <pianoboy3333> Is there a codec for m4p's that you download off of iTunes?
[02:48] <Knowerrors> navarone: the drive has a suse install on it, 3 partitions, root(reiserfs)swap, home(reiserfs), and yes its installed and plugged in, I even can see the block devices in /dev
[02:48] <jblack_> I am having a serious problem. I tried changing my theme in dapper. the theme changer broker. Now, most of the software machine is breaking.
[02:48] <Ralith> SAAD3000: can you ping other machines on your LAN?
[02:48] <corvax>  darthbutcher try this list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8621
[02:48] <SAAD3000> Ralith I dont know how to find machines on my lan,but i can ping myself
[02:48] <corvax> its a little neater
[02:48] <corvax> heh
[02:48] <Ralith> SAAD3000: you can always ping yourself :P
[02:48] <Knowerrors> navarone: also, on my hda1, I have a windows2000 install, that I can't mount
[02:48] <eidolon> "there was an error loading libamarokarts..."
[02:48] <Ralith> SAAD3000: try pinging your router
[02:48] <darthbutcher> Mine works now.
[02:48] <darthbutcher> :-P
[02:49] <jblack_> the themer segfaults, the file browser segfaults. mozilla segfaults too
[02:49] <Ralith> SAAD3000: that should be 192.168.0.1 or 2
[02:49] <SAAD3000> Ralith I can't ping it from window either.
[02:49] <corvax> yeah i noticed
[02:49] <SAAD3000> Ralith yah it doesn't replies
[02:49] <darthbutcher> corvax: after taking out the problem line, it works again.
[02:49] <eidolon> the segfault hits! [more]  You die. [more] 
[02:49] <eidolon> amarok just crashed violently.  that was fun :)
[02:49] <navarone> Knowerrors, okay let me see now...do you have two drives or ...okay one drive with windows...and that's the one that you can't mount? And do you have ubuntu and suse installed...? <confused>
[02:49] <hyperactivecrond> eidolon: congratz
[02:49] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Knowerrors about ntfs
[02:49] <Ralith> SAAD3000: is dhcp enabled on your router?
[02:50] <bllx> what's the most powerful  disk formating command ubuntu linux?
[02:50] <SAAD3000> Ralith No we use static here
[02:50] <bllx> -in ubuntu linux
[02:50] <brenner> BigDaddy: weird.
[02:50] <BigDaddy> brenner - woah, I gotta pastebin this
[02:50] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: btw... when i was telling ubotu to forget illicit stuff and waste stuff i looked them up @ the factoid browser
[02:50] <SAAD3000> weird eh
[02:50] <corvax> yeah just mine has marillat
[02:50] <Ralith> SAAD3000: well, then it's because you haven't configured your connection on ubuntu
[02:50] <hyperactivecrond> Knowerrors: follow instructions in link
[02:51] <SAAD3000> Ralith I did.
[02:51] <corvax> for win32codecs mplayer stuff etc
[02:51] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: figured out how to mount the ntfs part
[02:51] <Ralith> SAAD3000: alright; msg me the output from ifconfig eth0
[02:51] <SAAD3000> Ralith I double checked them. everything is right like xp
[02:51] <Knowerrors> navarone: on hda(ubuntu install, on hdb(suse install)
[02:51] <BigDaddy> brenner - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8622
[02:51] <SAAD3000> Ralith its eth1
[02:51] <navarone> Knowerrors, try this then...type !diskmounter
[02:51] <SAAD3000> i cann't am on windows now.
[02:51] <Knowerrors> !diskmounter
[02:51] <ubotu> from memory, diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:52] <SAAD3000> but i think i read interrupt 10 in the last line of the ifconfig
[02:52] <odla> ah...what's the panel at the top of the xfce4 screen called?
[02:52] <hyperactivecrond> it's called /etc/fstab 8:-\
[02:52] <hyperactivecrond> odla: lilstar?
[02:52] <brenner> BigDaddy: wow.  hope i didn't do that... -_-;
[02:52] <hyperactivecrond> lilstar icon box
[02:52] <hyperactivecrond> or window list
[02:52] <hyperactivecrond> i cant remember ::
[02:52] <BigDaddy> brenner - wth is all of that
[02:52] <BigDaddy> ?
[02:52] <Ralith> SAAD3000: well, if you're sure it's all correct, I don't know where to go :P
[02:52] <darthbutcher> Is gtkpod any good?
[02:53] <SAAD3000> Ralith really weird.
[02:53] <brenner> BigDaddy: i don't know.  can you start gedit from the accessories menu?
[02:53] <Knowerrors> navarone: I tried diskomounter, it mounted the hda1(windows2k), but didn't touch the hdb
[02:53] <hyperactivecrond> !gtkpod
[02:53] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond
[02:53] <SAAD3000> Ralith when am back to ubuntu could u tell me what errors should i see if i did the ifconfig?
[02:53] <hyperactivecrond> lovely
[02:53] <Ralith> SAAD3000: errors?
[02:53] <SAAD3000> Ralith where to look i mean in the ifconfig
[02:53] <odla> he he...xfce4 on dapper is a mess right now :)
[02:53] <Ralith> SAAD3000: the first line should hold the relevant information
[02:54] <BigDaddy> brenner - yeah, but I don't think I can get root rights that way can I?
[02:54] <Ralith> SAAD3000: here's mine for refrence:
[02:54] <navarone> Knowerrors, what is on hdb?
[02:54] <Ralith> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:B0:94:4F:1E
[02:54] <Ralith> er
[02:54] <mc|amb> hi, is there a way to make gnome windows drop shadows????
[02:54] <brenner> BigDaddy: no.  you're right
[02:54] <Ralith> make that the second line
[02:54] <Ralith> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:B0:94:4F:1E
[02:54] <Ralith>           inet addr:192.168.0.198  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:54] <brenner> BigDaddy: maybe try another editor?
[02:54] <Ralith> yep
[02:54] <brenner> BigDaddy: i don't know what's going on with that
[02:54] <SAAD3000> Ralith right thats what i've got.
[02:55] <Knowerrors> navarone: suse10 install, 3 partitions, rootswaphome
[02:55] <pianoboy3333> Is there a codec for m4p's that you download off of iTunes?
[02:55] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Ralith about pastebin
[02:55] <Knowerrors> navarone: reiserfs format for root and home on hdb
[02:55] <hyperactivecrond> !tell pianoboy3333 about restrictedformats
[02:55] <SAAD3000> Ralith the firefox tells me to check the proxy config settings..
[02:55] <BigDaddy> brenner - OK, what editor do you recommend? I don't suppose there is a metapad for Linux?
[02:55] <sidd> Is there a way to change ownership/permissions on my mounted drive so that I can delete files?
[02:55] <carpediem> eidolon: well, I use gstreamer, with amarok (the ONLY media player, in my book) and it works with mp3s for sure.
[02:55] <Ralith> hyperactivecrond: sorry :P
[02:55] <Ralith> SAAD3000: o.O that's downright odd.
[02:55] <xored> hello guys. I used the 12er kerne ( breezy, selfebacked) to run wirelesslan with WPA on my intel pro wifi chipset ( ipw2200). Therfore i compiled ipw2200 and iee myself on installed the firmware and it works and working. Now iam switching to 15-4 to have suspend2, but i cannot get the ip2200 to connect to my WPA. Any tips ?
[02:55] <SAAD3000> Ralith and the thing is that they are exactly the same as in here.
[02:56] <carpediem> eidolon: so I know it *can* work.....not sure what to do to figure out why its not working for you
[02:56] <navarone> Knowerrors, could be a prob with the reiserfs not being supported in diskmounter
[02:56] <Ralith> well, sorry, I don't know where to go :P
[02:56] <brenner> BigDaddy: i use vi myself....but it's tricky if youre a newbie iwth it.  maybe try nano
[02:56] <SAAD3000> Ralith do you know any developer here or any guy who really can Help?
[02:56] <navarone> Knowerrors, so fdisk -l does not show hdb at all?
[02:56] <hyperactivecrond> Knowerrors: what are you trying to do?
[02:56] <Ralith> SAAD3000: nope, I'm new 'round here myself.
[02:56] <william> embedded videos are playing choppy in firefox, how can i fix this?
[02:56] <SAAD3000> Ralith kthanx
[02:57] <mc|amb> hi, is there a way to make gnome windows drop shadows????
[02:57] <Ralith> xcompmgr?
[02:57] <xored> SAAD3000: whats the problem
[02:57] <corvax> your lucky they are playing at all
[02:57] <navarone> Knowerrors diskmounter wouldn't work with reiserfs anyway...doh...my bad
[02:57] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: Ive got a second harddrive attached, it shows as hdb, hdb1,2,3, in /dev, but it has no fstab enty and won't mount
[02:57] <xored> SAAD3000: discribe it in one opst, not several
[02:57] <hyperactivecrond> ok.
[02:57] <hyperactivecrond> Knowerrors try this from a terminal
[02:57] <Knowerrors> navarone: thx, at least I got the ntfs part up :)
[02:57] <hyperactivecrond> dmesg | grep hdb
[02:57] <SAAD3000> xored I can't access the Internet from Ubuntu and i can access it from xp knowing that the configs are exactly the same.
[02:57] <hyperactivecrond> pastebin the output
[02:58] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Knowerrors about pastebin
[02:58] <xored> SAAD3000:
[02:58] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: no output from that
[02:58] <SAAD3000> am listening.
[02:58] <xored> SAAD3000: setted up the route ?
[02:58] <navarone> Knowerrors, no prob I think hyperactivecrond  has you covered now...lol
[02:58] <xored> SAAD3000: paste me your ifconfig -a output in a pastebin
[02:58] <SAAD3000> xored yes the ip,mask,gw,dns all exact as in the xp
[02:58] <hyperactivecrond> Knowerrors: then i'm afraid linux can't see your hdb.
[02:58] <SAAD3000> xored I have to jump back to ubuntu.
[02:58] <hyperactivecrond> what kind of hd is it?
[02:58] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: maybe my pins on the drive are set wrong?
[02:58] <sidd> How can I change ownership/permissions on my mounted drive so that I can delete files?
[02:58] <xored> ok
[02:59] <xored> SAAD3000: secnod
[02:59] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: weird that fstab shows it though
[02:59] <xored> SAAD3000: get the output of /etc/resolf.conf
[02:59] <hyperactivecrond> Knowerrors: /dev or fstab?
[02:59] <xored> SAAD3000: and "route"
[02:59] <navarone> Knowerrors, are the jumpers set correctly for the drives?
[02:59] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: /dev
[02:59] <william> how can i get Pan (the newsreader)?
[02:59] <SAAD3000> xored how do i get the output of route?
[02:59] <xored> SAAD3000:  AND ping you DNS plse
[02:59] <hyperactivecrond> Knowerrors: doesn't matter that it's in there
[02:59] <corvax> apt-get install pan
[02:59] <Nightshade> is there anything special i have to do to setup a caching dns server for this machine and have it work for all the machines on my lan?
[02:59] <corvax> or use synaptic
[03:00] <xored> SAAD3000: sure i get, i must get it as iam going in through a router
[03:00] <Knowerrors> navarone: maybe 2nd drive is set to master also... been a while since I used it
[03:00] <william> tried that, didnt work
[03:00] <matt24> can someone help me with a program not running
[03:00] <KoruptidPryde> is there a way to hide the network servers from the places list?  I have a ton of them and it gets really annoying having them all there
[03:00] <Xenguy> !info pan
[03:00] <ubotu> pan: (A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent), section news, is optional. Version: 0.14.2.91-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 451 kB, Installed size: 3608 kB
[03:00] <SAAD3000> xored my DNS is exactly the same as my Gateway and it can't be pinged on ubuntu or xp
[03:00] <matt24> it locked up and I shut it down. now it doesn't start
[03:00] <eidolon> carpediem: *nod* i'm trying with the arts plugin now, but it seems to keep locking up amarok.  and ia gree with you, it's the only media player for me :)
[03:00] <colm> matt24, which?
[03:00] <hyperactivecrond> the /dev dir. has a lotta stuff that's not needed
[03:00] <william> !info pan
[03:00] <hyperactivecrond> check your master/slave settings
[03:00] <matt24> firefox and bittorando
[03:00] <corvax> dont forget the sudo*
[03:00] <xored> SAAD3000: do it like i said, pastbin ifconfig -a, route, resolf.conf and come back
[03:00] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: would having jumper set wrong cause the drive to not moung?  Even though I can see it with a live cd?
[03:00] <william> !info pan
[03:00] <Knowerrors> mount
[03:00] <ubotu> pan: (A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent), section news, is optional. Version: 0.14.2.91-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 451 kB, Installed size: 3608 kB
[03:00] <hyperactivecrond> you can see it w/ a live cd
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Am having some issues figuring out how to install themes in KDE if you can offer any assistance.
[03:01] <hyperactivecrond> odd.
[03:01] <colm> matt24, have they ever worked?
[03:01] <SAAD3000> xored allright, pastebin is the website?
[03:01] <matt24> oh ya
[03:01] <xored> type !paste
[03:01] <brenner> er, vlc isn't gtk, is it?
[03:01] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: yeah, I just ran Kanotix live cd and I could read hdb fine, and hda
[03:01] <matt24> when I shut a program down when it locks up
[03:01] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, im not running kde atm, but i might be able to help... what part of the theme you trying to install?
[03:01] <matt24> it doesn't run until I restart x
[03:02] <SAAD3000> xored one more thing before i jump to ubuntu how do i check the router?
[03:02] <navarone> Knowerrors, are you able to mkdir and mount partition?
[03:02] <hyperactivecrond> run lspci in Kanotix, cp downn what the output is
[03:02] <hyperactivecrond> not lspci
[03:02] <hyperactivecrond> lsmod
[03:02] <corvax> not sure what the package is called
[03:02] <SAAD3000> is it in /etc/route?
[03:02] <Knowerrors> navarone: nope
[03:02] <michaelfavia> i just installed dapper drake flight 3 and i wanted to know if i continue to track a development repository somehow...?
[03:02] <xored> guys, i can connect through my wpa_supplicant on kernel ..12 with my current ipw2200 drivers, but i cannot do it under 15er.. i updated wpa to 0.5 right now, didnt helped. It seems in the logs, he cannot encrpyt the key, some help ?
[03:02] <Xenguy> matt24: instead of restarting X, try 'pkill programname'
[03:02] <xored> SAAD3000: type : route
[03:02] <xored> and get me the output
[03:03] <matt24> how do I run it
[03:03] <SAAD3000> alright
[03:03] <SAAD3000> brb
[03:03] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: what do I do with the output?
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> navarone: it's not showing up in dmesg...
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> Knowerrors: pastebin it
[03:03] <navarone> weird
[03:04] <pianoboy3333> hyperactivecrond: but will rhythembox be able to play the files now?
[03:04] <pianoboy3333> hyperactivecrond: with the w32......deb file?
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: All of it presumably.  In Gnome I just throw a tarball into the theme manager, so...
[03:04] <jack|ass> has anyone gotten an Dlink 520 (Atheros chipset) set up under Ubuntu?
[03:04] <hyperactivecrond> pianoboy3333: try it
[03:05] <matt24> how do I get my start bar running again
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> hyperactivecrond: no, it can't
[03:05] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: will do, thx big time, hope youre still here when I return
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> ........
[03:05] <matt24> just killed it
[03:05] <matt24> lol
[03:05] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: gonna check jumpers also...
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> hmm...
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> do that knowerrors
[03:05] <cycom> arg. why won't my wireless card talk to the kernel?!
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> cycom: google is your friend
[03:05] <william> ok i still cant install Pan using apt-get
[03:06] <hyperactivecrond> william: apt-cache search pan
[03:06] <cycom> hyperactivecrond: yes it is. but I haven't found the answer to my question yet, so I'm going to ask on IRC, if that's ok with you.
[03:06] <william> a lot of no such file or directories came up
[03:06] <cycom> cardinfo sees the wireless card fine, but the modules don't load for it, and nothing shows up for the connect/disconnect in dmsg.
[03:07] <hyperactivecrond> cycom: are you _sure_ it's configed right?
[03:07] <cycom> hyperactivecrond: works in gentoo. are you _SURE_ you're not just trying to be obnoxious?
[03:07] <hyperactivecrond> cycon: *checks* yes
[03:07] <xored> hwo to update iwconfig ?
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> please don't whine about it working in x
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> instead of y
[03:08] <corvax> pan is in the repos
[03:08] <corvax> i see it
[03:09] <cycom> hyperactivecrond: OBVIOUSLY there is a problem, and asking me if I'm SURE it's configured correctly is just silly.
[03:09] <bllx> I formatted my other disk with Ubuntu on, but the bootstrap partition was left untouched. Anyone know a powerful format command?
[03:09] <naetrick> What are some requirements after installing a custom kernel on Ubuntu
[03:09] <hyperactivecrond> although granted i shouldn't have said google is your friend...
[03:09] <william> where can i get an updated list of sources
[03:09] <naetrick> Something, _something_ really odd goes on
[03:09] <hyperactivecrond> naetrick: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:09] <corvax> 0.14..2.91
[03:09] <naetrick> besides that
[03:09] <hyperactivecrond> cycom: please don't yell.
[03:09] <hatake_kakashi> anyone here know what else do you need to backup (apart from downloaded packages and maybe the index file) for another clean install of the OS without having to redownload those packages again?
[03:09] <naetrick> It can't find something on boot
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here play m4p's in ubuntu and they work well? How?
[03:09] <shortjollio> what app can open .rar archives?
[03:09] <brenner> william: breezy or dapper?
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> !rar
[03:09] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[03:10] <william> breezy, the new one :)
[03:10] <cycom> hyperactivecrond: please don't be rude to me and I won't yell.  End of discussion.
[03:10] <naetrick> It tries to mount XFS, I believe it does, but then it can't mount /dev/root on /root
[03:10] <brenner> !repos
[03:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:10] <naetrick> I'm using the exact config as the stock kernel installed in ubuntu
[03:10] <corvax> i dont think he has all repos
[03:10] <brenner> william: use the corresponding pastebin link
[03:11] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: wait.. XFS that's supposed to be either Xorg font server or the SGI XFS filesystem, which one are you referring to?
[03:11] <naetrick> XFS filesystem
[03:11] <corvax> pan is in  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Didcha catch that?
[03:12] <Smeggy> Could someone tell me what the difference between SoftMAC and Devicescape are?
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: you are supposed to point mount the hdd/device/partition .. eg /dev/hda3 not /dev/root
[03:12] <william> grr still cant find pan
[03:12] <naetrick> hatake_kakashi: That I do
[03:12] <brenner> corvax: proabbly...either that or he hasn't updated.  main should be in his sources by default
[03:12] <naetrick> in lilo.conf
[03:13] <corvax> guess soo
[03:13] <corvax> will do this
[03:13] <corvax> sudo apt-get update
[03:13] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: wait.. /dev/root is XFS for yours?
[03:13] <corvax> sudo apt-get install pan
[03:14] <naetrick> no, I point it to /dev/hda3, which is my root filesystem, which is XFS formatted
[03:14] <piggah> 'lo everyone
[03:14] <hyperactivecrond> cycom: if i was rude, /msg me about it.  i apologize if you thought i was rude.
[03:15] <navarone> cycom some particulars about card would help too
[03:15] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, sorry, checking out new pcs. open the Kcontrol centre thing and look for themes, theres an installer in that.. aka. Add new theme..
[03:15] <darthbutcher> I am back.
[03:16] <naetrick> hatake_kakashi: Here are the errors I get: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: That seems to have only changed the background pic and not much else.
[03:16] <darthbutcher> I am back.
[03:16] <darthbutcher> What is a good music program that is compatible with the iPod?
[03:16] <darthbutcher> BESIDES amarok
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> darthbutcher: I heard gtkpod
[03:17] <darthbutcher> Cool, I just installed it.
[03:17] <pianoboy3333> kk
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> darthbutcher: SharpMusique works with the iTunes library, dunno what it does with the iPod itself.
[03:17] <navarone> hi ITSa341
[03:17] <naetrick> what do you make of it?
[03:17] <Steve_p> Oh my, lots of dapper updates
[03:17] <michaelfavia> is there a rawhide like repository for ubuntu? i installed flight 3 and i dont have any updates when i run the updat emanager.
[03:17] <pianoboy3333> tonyyarusso: can u play music u already have on ur drive with it?
[03:18] <ITSa341> navarone  Hi
[03:18] <pianoboy3333> tonyyarusso: i mean SharpMusique
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> pianoboy3333: Don't know, didn't try to.  (Very briefly checked it out.)
[03:18] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: try mounting it as 'sudo mkdir /mnt/root && mount -t xfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/root'
[03:18] <corvax> mich maybe because
[03:18] <michaelfavia> Steve_p: where can i get the repo address for dapper updates?
[03:18] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here us SharpMusique?
[03:18] <corvax> you have the NEWEST release
[03:18] <darthbutcher> gtk looks like it is good.
[03:18] <naetrick> hatake_kakashi: Manually?
[03:18] <ITSa341> navarone Got win4lin working getting ready to start comparing it to vmware
[03:18] <corvax> so no updates are available
[03:18] <corvax> YET
[03:18] <naetrick> It loads correctly... I'm running on the default kernel currently
[03:18] <naetrick> but it's just the custom I cannot boot from
[03:19] <darthbutcher> !ipod
[03:19] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[03:19] <hyperactivecrond> naetrick what errors?
[03:19] <hyperactivecrond> corvax: why did you instlal dapper?
[03:19] <xored> ok i found the problem. While compiling the new kernel 2.6.15-4 on breezy he fails to compliel ieee wich is needed for the encryption of wpa. How to fix it up ?
[03:19] <navarone> ITSa341, okie dokie
[03:19] <corvax> i played with  it the other day
[03:20] <naetrick> hyperactivecrond: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[03:20] <hyperactivecrond> make menuconfig, allow iee, do a make modules_install
[03:20] <kfrek88> so far, a very good ubuntu experience
[03:20] <navarone> kfrek88, the night is young...;)
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: yeah give it a try
[03:20] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here us SharpMusique?
[03:21] <kfrek88> point taken nav
[03:21] <kfrek88> i usually hit roadblocks with every new dist i try
[03:21] <kfrek88> none so far
[03:21] <navarone> kfrek88, are you new to linux totally or just new to debian/ubuntu?
[03:21] <naetrick> hatake_kakashi: Mounting it right now? It's already mounted
[03:21] <kfrek88> new to deb and ubuntu
[03:21] <kfrek88> use fedora on another machine
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: ok, you want that partition to be mounted on /root right? as /root directory?
[03:22] <cycom> navarone: WPC11v3 Linksys PCMCIA wireless B adapter.
[03:22] <ITSa341> kfrek88   Hope you enjoy ubuntu as much as I have so far. I'm just learning the ropes myself
[03:22] <navarone> kfrek88, I have tried Caldera and three different Mandrakes and ubuntu takes the cake for relative ease and polish
[03:22] <cycom> navarone: again, card known working.
[03:22] <michaelfavia> kfrek88: did you install flight 3 ?
[03:22] <SAAD3000> !paste
[03:22] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:22] <kfrek88> what's flight 3?
[03:22] <michaelfavia> nm.
[03:22] <hyperactivecrond> kfrek88: 3rd test of dapper
[03:23] <naetrick> hatake_kakashi: I want the partition to be mounted as my main, root partition ('/'), yes
[03:23] <SAAD3000> xored want me to paste on #flood?
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> ...and why did you install it in teh first place?
[03:23] <kfrek88> no, using breezy
[03:23] <xored> nope
[03:23] <SAAD3000> alright
[03:23] <xored> type !paste and take the html
[03:23] <cycom> navarone: the unusual problem is that the card is detected by cardmgr and identified, but does not show insertion in dmesg
[03:23] <SAAD3000> weird why saving them on .txt format looks different under windows
[03:24] <kfrek88> gotta go tuck the kids in
[03:24] <kfrek88> bye
[03:24] <_jason> SAAD3000: there's a tool to convert it although I can't remember what it's called :)
[03:24] <darthbutcher> tony; I got amarok working.
[03:24] <darthbutcher> :-D
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: ack, you need to specify that in lilo.conf at boot.. I'm not too sure how lilo.conf went. However you need to specify that initally,
[03:24] <michaelfavia> what repo should apt point to if i installed flight 3?
[03:25] <odla> michaelfavia, ah...if you have to ask should you be using it?
[03:26] <Pablo> m00
[03:26] <michaelfavia> odla: im an experienced linux user but a new ubuntite ;)
[03:26] <holobyted> I'm confused about installing official nVidia drivers.. some pages say I need to blacklist agpgart and its derivatives, some others say I need it for nvagp. Can anyone point me to a trustworthy source?
[03:26] <xored> SAAD3000: it because the diffrent linespace
[03:26] <vladuz976> how can i make my bash prompt display the current directory?
[03:26] <michaelfavia> just dont know how the project is organized.
[03:26] <odla> michaelfavia, dapper is what it should point to not breezy
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: there's another way, but I never tried it.. its going through the method of mounting it similar to what I said, using chroot and then unmounting the previous / drive (becareful though)
[03:26] <xored> yes, got it !
[03:26] <shortjollio> how do i know if im 386 or 586?
[03:26] <yanis> oof, there is a very critical bug in ubuntu that it's still unsolvable
[03:27] <navarone> cycom have you read this page yet...?  http://osunix.com/?m=200504    about 3/4 down page ...title is WPC3<yada> <yada>
[03:27] <SAAD3000> xored alright done
[03:27] <TXmaw> hey, does anybody know a good program for running rmvb files?
[03:27] <yanis> this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[03:27] <xored> where ?
[03:27] <brenner> shortjollio: what cpu?
[03:27] <naetrick> hatake_kakashi: I think it is configured correctly in my lilo.conf
[03:27] <xored> link, i need one :)
[03:27] <SAAD3000> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8624
[03:27] <naetrick> I added "root=/dev/hda3", which is my root partition
[03:27] <naetrick> or should I be doing something else? I don't think so, because the same lilo.conf works for the other kernel
[03:27] <shortjollio> brenner, i forgot, is there a way to check without opening up my case
[03:28] <naetrick> how would I automate that at boot
[03:28] <xored> SAAD3000: what kind of router are you using ?
[03:28] <brenner> shortjollio: try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:28] <michaelfavia> odla: just deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[03:29] <odla> michaelfavia, well that one and just 'dapper'
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> naetrick: imo.. that should be set, you need to reload lilo to update its specific settings that you specified in lilo.conf. When you reboot next time, lilo should mount /dev/hda3 as /
[03:29] <SAAD3000> xored I really don't know its up the roof not mine.
[03:29] <xored> SAAD3000: everything looks fine for me here, expect try please to deactvate eth0
[03:29] <odla> michaelfavia, you should have several entries in /etc/apt/sources.list just change the word 'breezy' to 'dappery
[03:29] <shortjollio> brenner, now what am i looking for in this info
[03:29] <odla> dapper'
[03:29] <xored> SAAD3000: ifconfig eth0 down
[03:29] <SAAD3000> xored eth0 for the wireless and its already deactivated
[03:30] <SAAD3000> i guess so.
[03:30] <xored> SAAD3000: ok fine, a yes, i plaesed you to make it with -a, ok
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> Sweet, my grub to gdm time is 35 seconds.
[03:30] <xored> SAAD3000: ok, routing table seems to be okey, so the last step will be the DNS
[03:30] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso    Nice
[03:30] <SAAD3000> ya
[03:30] <SAAD3000> xored dns in xp here is the same as the gw
[03:30] <xored> SAAD3000: coudl you ping the router ?
[03:30] <michaelfavia> odla: ok so i enabled each of those repos... thanks...
[03:30] <brenner> shortjollio: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name
[03:31] <BigDaddy> OK, I can still not get gedit open from the terminal, therefore I cannot overwrite xorg.conf. Plus I cannot find another text editor. the "root" command doesn't seem to work on this, nor do "su". how else can I get root priveldeges on this file?
[03:31] <SAAD3000> nope i can't. on both i can't
[03:31] <odla> michaelfavia, ok...then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:31] <odla> and you're running dapper
[03:31] <ITSa341> wow, installing WinXP takes a while under win4lin
[03:31] <pepsi> BigDaddy, sudo
[03:32] <IdleOne> BigDaddy:  sudo
[03:32] <shortjollio> brenner, amd duron(tm)
[03:32] <BigDaddy> pepse - sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf is wat started this whole thing
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341: It takes a while normally!
[03:32] <Knowerrors> hyperactivecrond: here is pastebin of lsmod http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8625
[03:32] <Aaron_Mason> !shaper
[03:32] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aaron_Mason
[03:32] <MeshGearFox> Uh, hi~. I had this question about installing -- namely, the "FATs do not match!" error message that the partioner spits out. If anyone knows anything about fixing this or workarounds..
[03:32] <michaelfavia> odla: does synaptic not use the same sources file as apt?
[03:32] <xored> SAAD3000: ok you CANNOT pig your router frm XP ?
[03:32] <SAAD3000> xored I can't ping the router.
[03:32] <pepsi> BigDaddy, why cant you run gedit? use nano then
[03:32] <xored> SAAD3000: ok its firwalled
[03:32] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here us SharpMusique?
[03:32] <brenner> shortjollio: linux-k7
[03:32] <odla> michaelfavia, it does
[03:33] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know how to get shapecfg working?
[03:33] <SAAD3000> xored yes I can't ping the router from xp too.
[03:33] <odla> i don't use synaptic though...i just use the terminal
[03:33] <michaelfavia> dist-upgrade is a new one to me.. what does it do?
[03:33] <xored> SAAD3000: ok the last step is too try to ping a ip directyl without dns
[03:33] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso  I'm used to Linspire and their 8 minute install on my other machine. I guess I'm spoiled that way.
[03:33] <shortjollio> brenner, so which version of mplayer should i get
[03:33] <IdleOne> michaelfavia:  it upgrades kernel
[03:33] <shortjollio> ?
[03:33] <BigDaddy> I ran nano, but it changed my terminal window. is that supposed to be my text editor?
[03:33] <SAAD3000> xored how can I do thaT?
[03:33] <darthbutcher> !opera
[03:33] <ubotu> it has been said that opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:33] <xored> SAAD3000: 213.165.64.215
[03:33] <darthbutcher> !opera 9.1
[03:33] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:33] <xored> SAAD3000: ping 213.165.64.215
[03:33] <SAAD3000> xored Should i remove the dns in xp?
[03:33] <pepsi> BigDaddy, yeah its a text editor
[03:33] <xored> no
[03:33] <michaelfavia> IdleOne: ahh... thanks i think that used to just be and excludes lasti used apt.
[03:34] <shortjollio> brenner, nm i got it thx so much man
[03:34] <brenner> shortjollio: mplayer-k6 probably
[03:34] <Eleaf> hi
[03:34] <BigDaddy> pepsi - here is what happens when I try the sudo gedit... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8622
[03:34] <brenner> shortjollio: read the package descr.
[03:34] <xored> SAAD3000: please go down to youbuntu and try to do that ping
[03:34] <odla> IdleOne, it also adds new packages...it doesn't just upgrade the kernel
[03:34] <SAAD3000> xored request timed out
[03:34] <kbrooks> my disabilities pressentation: http://kbrooks.ath.cx/disabilities.pdf
[03:34] <fangorious> I seem to have lost the use of the multimedia keys to control rhythmbox
[03:34] <xored> SAAD3000: under xp or ubuntu ?
[03:34] <SAAD3000> xp
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341: Ah, I see.  (Had to redo Windows installations a number of times.  Completely ate my spring break once.  Disgusting.)
[03:34] <IdleOne> odla:  yeah that too
[03:34] <shortjollio> bremnner, so how did u know i needed k7?
[03:34] <odla> you can upgrade the kernel with just a plain old upgrade
[03:34] <xored> SAAD3000: this is impossible ?
[03:34] <SAAD3000> yep
[03:34] <SAAD3000> i can't ping it on xp
[03:35] <brenner> shortjollio: k7 is for duron/athlon cpus
[03:35] <SAAD3000> it times out.
[03:35] <Aaron_Mason> where do I go to add a kernel module?
[03:35] <michaelfavia> odla: is it possible that my flight3 base install is up to date or am i miconfigured?
[03:35] <xored> SAAD3000:  ping 83.97.42.2
[03:35] <odla> michaelfavia, do you have a flight3 cd?
[03:35] <Zen> fglrx isn't working since I upgraded--I followed the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466 to the letter
[03:35] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso Even the factory restore disks on this comp only take about 20 minutes to image winXP and all the extras. It's been years since I actually did a manual install of WinXP
[03:35] <odla> michaelfavia, oh no...you would definitely need to upgrade
[03:36] <odla> michaelfavia, paste your sources.list and link it here
[03:36] <SAAD3000> xored timed out also, I dont think the admin allows pinging ips outside the lan
[03:36] <Nightshade> is it common for ext3 parts to make the hard drive grind for hours on end when the system isn't doing anything?
[03:36] <michaelfavia> odla: in process.
[03:36] <pepsi> BigDaddy, well i dunno what to tell you buddy, i never edit xorg.conf with gedit, always used nano
[03:36] <xored> SAAD3000: "ok"
[03:37] <pepsi> BigDaddy, although i am able to edit it with gedit, so i dunno why you cant
[03:37] <xored> SAAD3000: this is for me, absolutely "unclear" why oyu are nt able to ping out but "ok"
[03:37] <michaelfavia> odla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8626 merci
[03:37] <SAAD3000> xored am really surprised really,the net worked on suse. why not ubuntu?
[03:37] <brenner> Nightshade: no
[03:37] <MeshGearFox> Night, I wouldn't imagine so.
[03:37] <dirtbiker> whats a good guide to installing linux  app?
[03:37] <Nightshade> hmm
[03:37] <Aaron_Mason> how do  I make modules load in the kernel at boot time?
[03:38] <BigDaddy> Aha! got it open with nano
[03:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell dirtbiker about synaptic
[03:38] <xored> SAAD3000: to be honest, i do not knwo. U have some really strange network configuration arround
[03:38] <Nightshade> somefin weird is got to be going on then
[03:38] <BigDaddy> hopefully it will let me overwrite it
[03:38] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: dual boot or just linux?
[03:38] <darthbutcher> I just installed the latest Opera beta.
[03:38] <darthbutcher> :-D
[03:38] <odla> michaelfavia, remove the hash marks before the work 'deb' except for the backports stuff
[03:38] <Aaron_Mason> more to the point, what file do I use to load the shaper module?
[03:38] <brenner> Nightshade: try running top, to see what's using resources
[03:38] <dirtbiker> just linux
[03:38] <SAAD3000> xored on SuSE and on Xp works but on ubuntu doesn't.
[03:38] <xored> SAAD3000: maybe your admin is doing some MAC filtering and your mac of mabye the onboard card has been changed under ubuntu
[03:38] <darthbutcher> It is pretty damn sweet!
[03:38] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: just linux
[03:38] <xored> SAAD3000: compare both macs
[03:38] <SAAD3000> wait let me compare
[03:38] <Nightshade> Xorg is at the top, no surprise there followed by top.
[03:39] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: any special equipment like wifi and gfx cards?
[03:39] <shortjollio> brenner, when i go to play a video online it gets to 99% buffering and then stops
[03:39] <Nightshade> nothing out of the ordinary
[03:39] <michaelfavia> odla: all of them?
[03:39] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: well just an nvidia
[03:39] <brenner> shortjollio: i don't use mplayer.  try hitting the forum
[03:39] <BigDaddy> pepsi - um, how do I select all the text in nano? I can't shift+arrows
[03:39] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: wired internet?
[03:39] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: gfx cars
[03:39] <SAAD3000> xored exactly the same
[03:39] <shortjollio> brenner, huh?
[03:40] <shortjollio> brenner, what do u use then instead of mplayer?
[03:40] <darthbutcher> !aim
[03:40] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[03:40] <pepsi> BigDaddy, you cant
[03:40] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: yeah ethernet
[03:40] <MeshGearFox> BTW, I think the partition in question is the XP restore partition. It's the only FAT32 one. I tried to hide it, but after aborting the Kubuntu install (it wasn't taking my chanes to the partitions), the system refused to boot and went into, like, something involving my network card (Yukon Marvell of some sort). The drive was hidden, still showed upin the partitioner ,though, so I set it to NOT mount. Anyway, erm... I don't know wh
[03:40] <brenner> shortjollio: totem
[03:40] <IdleOne> darthbutcher:  gaim
[03:40] <pepsi> BigDaddy, the best you can do is cut a line and paste it somewhere else
[03:40] <darthbutcher> IdleOne: I use GAIM
[03:40] <pepsi> ^K and ^U
[03:40] <darthbutcher> I was seeing if I could get any better things.
[03:40] <xored> SAAD3000: no idea really. Try to get a other DNS server, not the local one of the router
[03:40] <darthbutcher> Actually, I use Kopete now.
[03:40] <michaelfavia> dirtbiker: then the process is prettyy simple... downlaod an iso either from the mirror or via a bittorrent... burn it to a disk... put disk in drive and restart...
[03:40] <Mordof> yay! i found a solution for playing midis in ubuntu! :D
[03:41] <xored> SAAD3000: put it in the /etc/resolf.conf and try again
[03:41] <Aaron_Mason> How do you set up modules to load when you boot?
[03:41] <SAAD3000> xored how ?
[03:41] <MeshGearFox> And the first hit for googling "fats don'
[03:41] <odla> michaelfavia, like this...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8627
[03:41] <odla> you can copy and paste that if you want
[03:41] <michaelfavia> make sure you boot to cds in your bios..
[03:41] <Hysty> Mordof, cool
[03:41] <darthbutcher> !kxdocker
[03:41] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <shortjollio> brenner, totem says it could not play because np decoders found to handle the stream
[03:41] <odla> then at a terminal...sudo apt-get update
[03:41] <darthbutcher> Does anyone here use KX Docker?
[03:41] <Mordof> Hysty: i converted them all over into mp3 in windows
[03:41] <MeshGearFox> t match" is sort of distrubing XD. anyway, I guess I was more wondering if anyone knew if it'd be damaging or something to just ignore the FATs... not matching. As I said, recovery partition, so I'm not going to USe it.
[03:41] <odla> then sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <darthbutcher> http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php
[03:41] <xored> SAAD3000: 132.230.200.200 take this one and replace the one in your resolf.conf
[03:41] <mk501> hi all, I'm trying to set up backports so I can install newest Firefox, but synaptic is giving me errors; has the path to backports changed?
[03:41] <Hysty> Mordof, lol
[03:41] <brenner> shortjollio: if you're using totem, use totem-xine w/ w32codecs
[03:42] <IdleOne> tell mk501  about firefox1.5
[03:42] <SAAD3000> xored oke one last chance if it didn't work i'll uninstall ubuntu.
[03:42] <SAAD3000> :(
[03:42] <IdleOne> !tell mk501  about firefox1.5
[03:42] <bob832> there is a wiki article about installing firefox 1.5
[03:42] <IdleOne> yup
[03:42] <bob832> that works too
[03:42] <michaelfavia> SAAD3000: what net card?
[03:43] <SAAD3000> broadcom michaelfavia
[03:43] <michaelfavia> which one?
[03:43] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia i can ping myself
[03:43] <_jason> mk501: it used to be mirrormax, it no longer is.  I'll have the bot send you a link.  But as was mentioned, ff1.5 has not been backported
[03:43] <Aaron_Mason> w00t, it works now
[03:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell mk501 about easysource
[03:43] <michaelfavia> so can anyone without a network card ;)
[03:43] <michaelfavia> lo :)
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller thats what under xp device manager
[03:44] <mk501> great! thanks _jason & IdleOne....I really appreciate it
[03:44] <michaelfavia> what ablout lspci output
[03:44] <michaelfavia> about
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia No i meant the 192.x.x.x ip
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia I have to restart .
[03:44] <BigDaddy> OK, how about Nautilus? if I sudo Nautilus, will that give me root rights in Nautilus and in anything I open from with in it?
[03:44] <michaelfavia> ahh dual boot?
[03:44] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia ya
[03:45] <dirtbiker> michaelfavia: oh, I installed linux. I'm looking for guide to installing those tar.gz archives. Maybe an explaination of which folder in the root are for.
[03:45] <IdleOne> BigDaddy:  sudo gives you root rights
[03:45] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia the net works on xp but not on ubuntu
[03:45] <BigDaddy> nevermind, sudo Nautilus does nothing
[03:45] <Syco54645> can anyone suggest a program that i can limit the total speeding going in and out of my box for the net?  i am on a shared network and would like to be fair since everyone else is using netlimiter
[03:45] <Phelan> BigDaddy: Are you getting a poweruser error?
[03:45] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia I also saw the networkcard the exact name during the installation.
[03:45] <michaelfavia> SAAD3000: well that is because you have windows drivers installed... you need drivers in linux.. either opensoure ones or an adapter for your proprietary ones...
[03:46] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  you have no internet connection with ubuntu?
[03:46] <BigDaddy> IdleOne - Phelan - here is my error
[03:46] <BigDaddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8622
[03:46] <BigDaddy> I get that when I sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:46] <SAAD3000> IdleOne Yes its WEIRD man am telling you, I got xp with internet and ubuntu without!! on the same machine
[03:46] <michaelfavia> SAAD3000: that isnt wierd it is normal.
[03:47] <Ralith> right
[03:47] <Hysty> grr to non-resuming file servers
[03:47] <Ralith> I was talking to somone
[03:47] <SAAD3000> michaelfavia if there is something wrong with the name of the nic on ubuntu how did i pinged my lan ip.?
[03:47] <Ralith> then X locked up my box.
[03:47] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  this might sound stupid but is eth0 enabled ?
[03:47] <odla> michaelfavia, are you upgrading now...did it work fro you?
[03:47] <Ralith> brenner: it was you, right?
[03:47] <SAAD3000> IdleOne yes its enabled i have eth0 for wirless and eth1 for nic
[03:47] <michaelfavia> odla: actually i was side tracked. ;) getting back to it now
[03:47] <brenner> Ralith: yes
[03:47] <BigDaddy> SAAD3000 - are you having internet connectivity problems?
[03:48] <shortjollio> brenner, what do i need to play wmv?
[03:48] <SAAD3000> BigDaddy ya
[03:48] <brenner> shortjollio: w32codecs
[03:48] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  ok...wires all plugged in properly...because from what i can see its not a software issue so maybe hardware ??
[03:48] <BigDaddy> shortjollo - an old preist and a young preist
[03:48] <BigDaddy> the power of christ compells you
[03:48] <BigDaddy> SAAD3000 - are you on DSL? PPPoE?
[03:48] <SAAD3000> IdleOne if its a hardware issue how am online now chatting with you fine guys ;>
[03:49] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  maybe having wireless and nic enabled at same time is confusing ubuntu?
[03:49] <SAAD3000> BigDaddy neither of those. I just add my static ip,mask,gw,dns and proxy settings.
[03:49] <Phelan> BigDaddy: I'm not very experienced with Linux, but I thought you were having a similar error I had, which I used a sudo command to gain root access. What it almost looks like to me though, is the file is corrupt or something. I say that, because it's outright failing, and not giving an access violation error or saying it isn't there...
[03:49] <SAAD3000> IdleOne no i have the wireless disabled
[03:49] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  just trying to deduce :)
[03:49] <SAAD3000> IdleOne its ok.
[03:50] <dirtbiker> I'm looking for guide to installing those tar.gz archives. Maybe an explaination of which folder in the root are for.
[03:50] <BigDaddy> I just did a bunch of updates. Is it like windows where I need to reboot?
[03:50] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  take a boot to it maybe that will fix it...lol
[03:50] <SAAD3000> IdleOne can't boot the laptop can i ;>
[03:50] <BigDaddy> SAAD3000 - sorry man, I just know how to do the PPPoE
[03:50] <shortjollio> brenner, i cant find w32codecs, is that in synaptic under just that name?
[03:50] <IdleOne> BigDaddy:  not usauly
[03:50] <brenner> ubotu: tell shortjollio about w32codecs
[03:50] <SAAD3000> I never had this problem before.
[03:51] <IdleOne> SAAD3000:  nope I wouldnt
[03:51] <Xenguy> BigDaddy: you reboot for kernel upgrades; that's it
[03:51] <BigDaddy> is there a better terminal than GNOME terminal?
[03:51] <SAAD3000> BigDaddy ETERM ;>
[03:51] <Xenguy> BigDaddy: define better
[03:51] <BigDaddy> Xenguy - I thought that was about the onlything I ever heard about rebooting in linux
[03:52] <Phelan> Dirtbiker: Try this site: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[03:52] <BigDaddy> Xenguy - good point. More popular amongst the computer knowledgable, but ubuntu newbie?
[03:52] <BigDaddy> Dirstbiker, welcome to the club. That is how my evening started out!
[03:52] <Phelan> DirtBiker The string after the .org/ isn't important in your matter. I needed it for something. But tha tsite might help
[03:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell dirtbiker about nvidia
[03:52] <linkd> i like gnome-terminal :/
[03:53] <SAAD3000> so I guess i get back to suse.
[03:53] <SAAD3000> ;<
[03:53] <_jason> Phelan: please don't recommend ubuntuguide, it is outdated
[03:53] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[03:53] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[03:53] <linkd> in fact its my favorite. the only other one which comes near is eterm, if you want to spend long configuring it
[03:53] <BigDaddy> no i don't. at least not ATM
[03:53] <Phelan> _jason: Sorry. It simply helped me, so I figured he might find some use out of it.
[03:54] <_jason> Phelan: understandable, just letting you know there are better docs like help.ubuntu.com and the wiki.  Those are preferred here
[03:54] <Xenguy> BigDaddy: gnome-terminal and konsole are the 'heavy-weights'; light terminals are xterm, rxvt, aterm etc.
[03:55] <Phelan> _jason: NP.
[03:55] <whiter> whats a good gui ftp client
[03:55] <sopionblax> the xfce terminal is nice
[03:55] <whiter> for ubuntu
[03:55] <eodchop> I am trying to install the w32 codecs and I get :dpkg: status database area is locked by another process Can anyone help?
[03:55] <IdleOne> anybody know why gnomebaker keeps spitting out cd's and asking for a cd?
[03:56] <_jason> eodchop: close synaptic
[03:56] <brenner> whiter: gftp works fine for me
[03:56] <eodchop> it is closed
[03:56] <brenner> whiter: you can also just use nautilus
[03:56] <Xenguy> whiter: gftp seems to be mentioned often (and can do scp/sftp)
[03:56] <_jason> eodchop: do you have update manager or any other apt process running?
[03:57] <Madpilot> whiter: Nautilus (the file manager) can do most FTP stuff
[03:57] <eodchop> just a terminal, gaim and firefox
[03:57] <eodchop> is there an task manager where i could check process?
[03:57] <eodchop> processes*?
[03:58] <_jason> eodchop: system tools > system monitor, top, ps
[03:58] <Xenguy> eodchop: top
[03:58] <whiter> gftp keeps closing when i try to transfer
[03:58] <Steve_p> Does anyone know if gcc-4.1 is going to be in dapper?
[03:58] <Madpilot> eobanb: or Applications --> System Tools --> System Monitor - Processes tab there
[03:58] <eodchop> ok...I got it would update notifier cuase it to do that? that is all i can see on there.
[03:59] <Madpilot> whiter: gFTP bites - use Nautilus's FTP functions if you can
[03:59] <whiter> how can i do it with nautilus?
[03:59] <whiter> cause its using bread crumb navigation, no where to put the ftp address
[03:59] <IdleOne> eodchop: I think it might
[03:59] <Madpilot> whiter: File --> Connect to Server
[03:59] <_jason> eodchop: yeah, let it do its thing is probably the best course of action
[03:59] <eodchop> can i safely kill it with system monitor?
[04:00] <IdleOne> eodchop:  finish update first
[04:00] <eodchop> ok i have to restart then
[04:00] <eodchop> thank you
[04:01] <IdleOne> shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:01] <whiter> okay well
[04:01] <whiter> natilus isnt working
[04:01] <shortjollio> brenner, dude ur my biggest hero thx so much
[04:02] <brenner> np
[04:02] <IdleOne> whiter: http://www.thefreecountry.com/webmaster/freeftpclients.shtml
[04:03] <Aaron_Mason> anybody know where I can find a good tute for shapecfg?
[04:03] <Madpilot> FileZilla has a Linux port, but it's still in beta - I'll be a very happy Ubuntunian when I can install that...
[04:03] <Nightshade> ok, i'm pulling my hair out here (i'm bald).  is there a way to setup bind to act as a caching name server on my network so i can setup all of my machines on the lan to query this one before using the isp provided servers?
[04:03] <elky> gftp is nice, whiter and in repos
[04:04] <whiter> gftp wont work
[04:04] <Madpilot> elky: it's already crashed on him too...
[04:04] <whiter> when i try to transfer it closes
[04:04] <elky> o.O
[04:04] <corvax> ug songbird has no binary for linux
[04:04] <Nightshade> ncftp is where it'
[04:04] <elky> weirdness
[04:04] <Nightshade> it's at
[04:04] <linkd> whiter: does it give any errors?
[04:04] <Nightshade> :)
[04:04] <whiter> no
[04:04] <whiter> it just closes itself
[04:04] <Hysty> anyone know of a server that dapperflight3 is on that supports resume?
[04:04] <Madpilot> whiter: and Naut. does the same thing, crash on transfer?
[04:04] <Sionide> corvax, i *know* :| GRR
[04:04] <_jason> whiter: run it in a terminal
[04:04] <linkd> hm
[04:04] <whiter> naut says invalid password
[04:04] <whiter> terminal wont list
[04:04] <corvax> i dont feel like building from source
[04:04] <Sionide> corvax, i really can't be arsed to reboot JUST to try it out
[04:05] <Sionide> heh neither do i...
[04:05] <corvax> color me lazy
[04:05] <Sionide> but damn, it's gonna be *so* good when it's done..
[04:05] <Sionide> it just looks aaaaamazing
[04:05] <cafuego> Nightshade: Yes, just use the ISP servers as forwarders in bind, make all lan boxes use YOUR dns.
[04:05] <Xenguy> whiter: if you want a good command-line ftp client, try lftp
[04:05] <proxosi> what a good c++ compiler?
[04:05] <Aaron_Mason> proxosi: g++
[04:05] <cafuego> Nightshade: Just for the record, lftp is far nicer
[04:05] <proxosi> for windows and/or ubuntu
[04:06] <_jason> proxosi: g++
[04:06] <cafuego> proxosi: gcc
[04:06] <_jason> proxosi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:06] <corvax> ill wait till its more stable before going through all the work
[04:06] <linkd> whiter: thats puzzling. are you saying the transfer connection closes, or the software?
[04:06] <cafuego> proxosi: it's in cygwin (free) for Windows, on MacOS X and on virtually ALL Linux distros
[04:06] <Nightshade> oh my, i haven't seen lftp in ages.  :)  hell, i rarely use ftp anymore except for package upgrades and stuff and that's all scripted
[04:07] <whiter> the software
[04:07] <linkd> hm.
[04:07] <Xenguy> Nightshade: me too (ssh all the way); lftp is the best of the cli lot IMHO tho
[04:07] <linkd> sounds like there is an error somewhere!
[04:07] <Steve_p> proxosi, if you are experimenting, there are three main Linux compilers.  g++, which you can easily apt-get.  Intel and Sun also have compilers available.
[04:07] <whiter> i want a gui client.
[04:07] <linkd> whiter: for just kicks, try "rm -rf ~/.gftp
[04:08] <linkd> whiter: thatll delete your gftp settings, then try again
[04:08] <proxosi> steve_p: ok... wat about for windows
[04:08] <whiter> k
[04:08] <linkd> whiter: if it still doesnt work, try removing gftp, and reinstalling it. if it still doesnt work after that im baffled.
[04:09] <whiter> ive dont that twice already
[04:09] <whiter> but ok
[04:09] <bluefoxicy> why does ubuntu now have a package called klineconfig?
[04:09] <linkd> Xenguy: whats ur idea. please share!
[04:09] <Steve_p> proxosi, Intel is available.  g++ is available through mingw.  g++ is also in Cygwin if you're interested in that route.
[04:09] <whiter> yep
[04:09] <whiter> closes
[04:09] <corvax> whiter try apt-get --purge remove gftp
[04:09] <CodyDH> What kernel patch does Ubuntu use to allow suspending to disk?
[04:09] <whiter> :|
[04:09] <whiter> i just want to download one file
[04:09] <whiter> wtf
[04:09] <Steve_p> proxosi, Borland and Open Watcom are also available
[04:09] <brenner> whiter: try running it from a terminal, it might spit out errors when it closes
[04:10] <Xenguy> linkd: I think it is some other problem besides a software issue, that's all
[04:10] <whiter> it dosent
[04:10] <whiter> it wont list
[04:10] <IdleOne> whiter what file?
[04:10] <whiter> and
[04:10] <linkd> whiter: could just use wget.. or just quickly use ftp - the CLI program.
[04:10] <cafuego> !info klineconfig
[04:10] <Emerson> ok, I have a really odd question and I just want a second opinion if this sounds like hardware or software:  Ubuntu 5.10 , system locks up randomly, 99% inside of Gnome when running mozilla-firefox + Evolution + Epiphany Browser.  no output to the logs to make me think its software related
[04:10] <whiter> OMG
[04:10] <whiter> enracer.serveftp.net
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !drivers
[04:10] <ubotu> hmm... drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[04:10] <whiter> whoops
[04:10] <eodchop> Hey it worked thanks for the help!
[04:10] <Xenguy> whiter: yeh, wget if you are just d/l'ing
[04:10] <whiter> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !windowsdrivers
[04:10] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !windows
[04:10] <ubotu> windows is, like, unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[04:10] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: does it?
[04:10] <darthbutcher> !alternative
[04:10] <ubotu> alternative is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:10] <brenner> darthbutcher: ease up.  /msg ubotu please
[04:10] <_jason> darthbutcher: what drivers are you seeking?
[04:11] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  something about keyboards
[04:11] <whiter> it dosnet even recognize gftp as installed
[04:11] <brenner> you're flooding
[04:11] <darthbutcher> _jason: V-Stream Xpert DVD Maker
[04:11] <ilba7r> hi i want to use gs-afpl instead of gs how can i use that. is there is a howto on how to divert the usage of a corepackage like ghostview
[04:11] <eodchop> Can anyone help me with realplayer 10.0? I keep getting the following error message......ryan@ubuntu:~/Desktop$   sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[04:11] <eodchop> dpkg: error processing realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[04:11] <eodchop>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:11] <eodchop> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:11] <eodchop>  realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[04:11] <_jason> darthbutcher: ok, carry on then... I don't think ubotu will know about it though
[04:11] <Xenguy> !tell eodchop about paste
[04:12] <_jason> eodchop: is the file on your desktop?
[04:12] <CodyDH> What kernel patch does Ubuntu use to allow suspending to disk?
[04:12] <eodchop> jason:i used apt get to attempt to install it.
[04:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell eodchop about realplayer
[04:12] <whiter> and wget isnt working
[04:12] <whiter> says bash
[04:13] <ilba7r> again anyone know about how to use update-alternatives
[04:13] <whiter> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:13] <ilba7r> !alternatives
[04:13] <ubotu> alternatives is probably should you require to change the default applications system wide, use "sudo update-alternatives --all" it provides choice where available to the machine. example: kde/gnome or nano/vi/emacs
[04:13] <_jason> eodchop: did you know that mplayer plays all of the realplayer files if you have w32codecs
[04:13] <IdleOne> eodchop:  cd Desktop then do dpkg
[04:13] <whiter> gftp isnt removing
[04:13] <whiter> ...
[04:13] <whiter> i do apt-get remove gftp
[04:13] <IdleOne> but _jason  is right
[04:13] <whiter> but its still here
[04:14] <eodchop> I did not know that, will it play embedded in a webrowswer?
[04:14] <IdleOne> whiter sudo
[04:14] <corvax> it as the libata_passthru patch ?
[04:14] <whiter> i used sudo
[04:14] <whiter> ...
[04:14] <_jason> !enter
[04:14] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:14] <whiter> it says it removes it but its still here
[04:14] <brenner> ilba7r: are gs-afpl and gs seperate executables?
[04:14] <Xenguy> whiter: re wget: what is the actual command-line you're trying?
[04:14] <whiter> lets go on with uninstlaling gftp
[04:15] <ilba7r> brenner i want ps2pdf to use the gs-afpl
[04:15] <eodchop> idle one: do i need to download it to the desktop?
[04:15] <whiter> cause it isnt uninstalling
[04:15] <IdleOne> eodchop:  if you used firefox thats where it is
[04:15] <darthbutcher> Anyone know how to get Windows drivers working in Linux?
[04:15] <ilba7r> brenner gs uses the gs-esp package
[04:15] <corvax> its not installed
[04:15] <ilba7r> causing some problems here
[04:15] <eodchop> oh ok...
[04:15] <IdleOne> eodchop:  so you need to cd Desktop
[04:15] <corvax> its still there in your sources
[04:15] <Ralith> well
[04:15] <corvax> though
[04:15] <whiter> ARGH
[04:16] <IdleOne> eodchop:  the dpkg
[04:16] <Ralith> the person who was helping me just dissapeared.
[04:16] <IdleOne> eodchop:  then dpkg
[04:16] <whiter> someone help me, gftp wont uninstall using apt-get
[04:16] <eodchop> Thank you very much for your help...Sorry about the multi-line paste.
[04:16] <ilba7r> brenner and gs is just a symbolic link to whichever gs engine you used the default is gs-eps
[04:16] <_jason> whiter: pastebin errors
[04:16] <IdleOne> Ralith:  they will probably be right back
[04:16] <whiter> theres no errors
[04:16] <whiter> it claims to have uninstalled it
[04:16] <whiter> but its still here
[04:17] <IdleOne> whiter locate gftp
[04:17] <_jason> whiter: where is here
[04:17] <Ralith> IdleOne: I would hope so. He didn't say anything :P
[04:17] <whiter> its on my computer
[04:17] <whiter> im running it
[04:17] <whiter> its in applications > Internet
[04:17] <IdleOne> you cant remove if program is running
[04:17] <whiter> omg
[04:17] <Xenguy> whiter: provide examples, and be specific (you are just making it hard to help you)
[04:17] <whiter> it wasnt running when i uninstalled it obviously
[04:17] <whiter> okay
[04:18] <_jason> whiter: install it and remove it again
[04:18] <whiter> heres my example: i UNINSTALLED GFTP using apt-get remove gftp
[04:18] <whiter> right?
[04:18] <IdleOne> ok
[04:18] <whiter> but it didnt uninstall, its still fine and well right here
[04:18] <whiter> and _jason, ive tried that like 3 times
[04:18] <marburg> help! i need to configure my network, but i can't get xorg to start :'(
[04:18] <marburg> can anyone point me to some config files?
[04:18] <_jason> whiter: and make sure you remove gftp-gtkgftp-text
[04:18] <IdleOne> whats was that --purge command ?
[04:18] <_jason> whiter: and make sure you remove gftp-gtk gftp-text
[04:19] <whiter> ok jason
[04:19] <whiter> that worked, thank you
[04:19] <whiter> im over here getting very frustrated :\
[04:19] <IdleOne> Confucious say if it aint broke and wont work FDISK
[04:20] <IdleOne> heh
[04:20] <Ralith> anyone here good with X?
[04:20] <IdleOne> !anyone
[04:20] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:20] <_jason> whiter: if you read the package description it will tell you: This is an upgrade convenience package, it's only useful for depending on. and apt-cache depends gftp can get you its dependencies
[04:20] <Ralith> because last time I did that the paragraph-long thing got ignored :P
[04:21] <Ralith> and when I proceeded to ask if anyone was good with X, I got someone helping.
[04:21] <Ralith> and made progress.
[04:21] <IdleOne> Ralith:  ok then :)
[04:21] <IdleOne> Ralith:  sorry Im not
[04:21] <whiter> blah
[04:21] <whiter> gftp still closes itself
[04:22] <cafuego> gftp is known to be crap.
[04:22] <whiter> is there any good gui ftp client for linux
[04:22] <dirtbiker> anyone know how to install tar.bz2 files?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, What do you recommend instead?
[04:22] <cafuego> (sorry if there's any autheors here, but there you go)
[04:22] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: ssh
[04:22] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: ;-)
[04:22] <_jason> dirtbiker: what are you trying to install?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Ah!  Okay.
[04:22] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: I'd recommend using a cli ftp client, to be honest.
[04:23] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Even the Places -> Connect to server -> FTP is nicer.
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Hm.  gftp has been fine for me so far, but we'll see.
[04:23] <whiter> cafuego i cant get that to work, it tells me im using the wrong password
[04:23] <corvax> kbear lol
[04:24] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: A lot of people complain about instability. that said, ebcuase of those people doing that, I've never even bothered trying it.
[04:24] <shortjollio> how can i get the music on myspace to run?i have flashplayer but it still wont
[04:24] <cafuego> whiter: What tells you that?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> !flashesd
[04:24] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonyyarusso
[04:24] <whiter> naut
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Eh?
[04:24] <stbrenner> hi, i'm trying to play a .mpg movie file in totem and all i get is sound...is there a codec i'm missing or what?
[04:24] <jordan> hey guys, I cant seem to get gmail to work with ubuntu, wondering if anything is wrong, all other sites seem to work, including www.google.com, are the gmail servers down?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> !esdflash
[04:24] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:24] <beniamino> does a default ubuntu install require a network connection?
[04:24] <cafuego> beniamino: No.
[04:24] <_jason> jordan: what ahppens when you go to the site?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Thought I had something for you, guess not.
[04:25] <cafuego> beniamino: It will try to detect network, but works fine without.
[04:25] <marburg> jordan: gmail works fine on this machine
[04:25] <_jason> !flashesd
[04:25] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason
[04:25] <corvax> java
[04:25] <cafuego> !listkeys flash
[04:25] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'flash' by key (5 shown): flashfonts #DEL# ;; flashfont #DEL# ;; flashesd #DEL# ;; flashfonts ;; flash.
[04:25] <corvax> ya need java for gmail
[04:25] <jordan> well, I can log on, but it never reaches the actual inbox, I've waited an hour before, sometimes it works but other times it doesnt
[04:25] <beniamino> cafuego: so, if the network is there, it downloads a load of packages automatically?
[04:25] <cafuego> !undelete flashesd
[04:25] <ubotu> cafuego: Successfully recovered 'flashesd'.  Have fun now.
[04:25] <corvax> lmao
[04:25] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, what do u mean?
[04:26] <cafuego> _jason: there ya go.
[04:26] <Syco54645> how can i make links to my sda and hde drive on my desktop?
[04:26] <_jason> cafuego: ah thankyou
[04:26] <_jason> who wanted it again?
[04:26] <Syco54645> i never can figure that out in gnome
[04:26] <whiter> _jason would you happen to know of a good gui ftp client
[04:26] <jordan> does java get installed in ubuntu on default?
[04:26] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, oh i c. have u gotten it to work?
[04:26] <_jason> whiter: no, I just use ssh
[04:26] <xored> i just deleted a file, how can i reconstruct it ( its a small file )
[04:26] <whiter> ftp the terminal program dosent work cause this ftp sever dosent have pasv
[04:26] <stbrenner> hi, i'm trying to play a .mpg movie file in totem and all i get is sound...is there a codec i'm missing or what?
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, For your flash issue, if that was it.  And yes.
[04:26] <Syco54645> whiter: there is gftp, but it is really crappy
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Sure it's flash?
[04:26] <cafuego> whiter: Are you connecting to anonftp via naut or an actual account? The latter requires you to tell it that.
[04:27] <whiter> an actual account
[04:27] <zcat[1] > try mplayer; I'm not sure totem uses all the available codecs. vlc doesn't
[04:27] <whiter> and i know that
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> _jason, was for shortjollio.
[04:27] <whiter> i choose the option that says requires login
[04:27] <stbrenner> how can i get mplayer?
[04:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell stbrenner about mplayer
[04:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell shortjollio about flashesd
[04:27] <cafuego> whiter: Yep. Server/User Name/name to use... is all it should need.
[04:27] <stbrenner> sudo apt-get mplayer?
[04:27] <Syco54645> stbrenner: use synaptic and install mplayer
[04:27] <whiter> well it doesnt work
[04:27] <zcat[1] > and w32codecs ..
[04:27] <cafuego> whiter: Any chance you can check the logs on the ftp server?
[04:28] <whiter> name to use, what is that?
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> !tell stbrenner about mplayer
[04:28] <Syco54645> stbrenner: also you may want to run it with the command gmplayer
[04:28] <stbrenner> i did the w32codecs
[04:28] <whiter> no, theres no chance i can
[04:28] <cafuego> whiter: name to use is the name the icon would get on the desktop
[04:29] <zcat[1] > I've been downloading lots of clips that just seem 'broken' - I get blocky shapes moving around but no real picture in mplayer, and nothing at all in vlc.
[04:30] <zcat[1] > I suspect they're 'protected media' or some crap
[04:30] <nbjayme> hello ubuntu people.
[04:30] <zcat[1] > the dangers of p2p pr0n :-)
[04:30] <BigDaddy> brenner - you still here?
[04:31] <nbjayme> do you know of a script that will transform  svg files to png files?
[04:31] <Aaron_Mason> how do you erase a cd-rw?
[04:31] <Aaron_Mason> in nautilus
[04:31] <Syco54645> can anyone please tell me where i can find the icons for the disk drives in gnome (the ones that you see when you go to computer under places)
[04:32] <_jason> Syco54645: is it a custom theme?
[04:32] <BigDaddy> I think I scared gedit into working. I stared looking for leafpad after closing everything except this window and swearing I was going to do something drastic (like download KDE). All of a sudden gedit opens. with root rights. wth?
[04:32] <Syco54645> _jason: no it is the default ubuntu theme, i just cant find it in the icons that come up
[04:32] <_jason> Syco54645: /usr/share/icon/something or ~/.icons
[04:32] <Syco54645> _jason: thanks
[04:33] <Aaron_Mason> got it...
[04:33] <_jason> Syco54645: should have been icons not icon and I think default is either Gnome or human
[04:33] <jordan> can anybody help me with my gmail problem?
[04:33] <Syco54645> _jason: would you happen to know how to get nautilus to default to letting me type the path rather than hitting ctrl-l?
[04:34] <_jason> Syco54645: not offhand, but I believe it is a perference in system tools > config editor: /apps/nautilus
[04:34] <brenner> anyone running ff1.5?
[04:35] <_jason> Syco54645: yep,
[04:35] <zcat[1] > where's a repo for 1.5?
[04:35] <_jason> Syco54645: erm.. /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
[04:35] <zcat[1] > I found a repo for OOo2.0 at last
[04:35] <nbjayme> i am running ff1.5 in ubuntu breezy.
[04:35] <_jason> zcat[1] : it hasn't and won't be packaged
[04:35] <brenner> zcat[1] : there isn't any afaik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:35] <ITSa341> brenner  I ran it for a while but some of the extensions I like wouldn't work so I'm back to 1.0.7
[04:36] <zcat[1] > umm OOo wasn't officially packaged either.. 3rd party repo. There must be one for FF1.5 somewhere
[04:36] <brenner> yeah, i heard it was kind of patchy.  i'm wondering whether i should try it or not
[04:36] <Syco54645> _jason: thanks so much... you would think that it would be easier to find, like in the settings pane for nautilus, not in the config editor
[04:36] <brenner> ITSa341: what extesions specifically?
[04:36] <zcat[1] > guess I'll just wait for dapper
[04:36] <_jason> Syco54645: yeah, the gnome way I guess
[04:37] <Syco54645> _jason: well this used to be default, kinda silly that they changed it imho
[04:37] <brenner> nbjayme: any problems with it?
[04:37] <ITSa341> brenner Some of the people in our office still use it and they are steadily getting updates for the extensions. When an update becomes available and installed, the extension is automatically re-enabled
[04:37] <nbjayme> brenner:none so far, it's fast. but those in forums say other extensions are broken.
[04:37] <_jason> Syco54645: I've gotten used to, I have my hand on the mouse when I use nautilus anyway.  But I do press ctrl+l a lot too :P
[04:38] <ITSa341> Brenner  I don't remember which ones but like I said, they are steadily becoming patched for 1.5 so I might try it again soon
[04:38] <Syco54645> _jason: i mostly use the shell, so the mouse isnt even really there... at least not in my mind
[04:38] <KoruptidPryde> is MrProject in the repos?
[04:38] <brenner> ITSa341, nbjayme:  right. thanks.
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, Yes.
[04:38] <nbjayme> brenner: simply download and extract to your folder. remember to backup your .mozilla folder
[04:39] <KoruptidPryde> tonyyarusso, which one... I couldn't find it
[04:40] <ITSa341> brenner When I installed it the first time I tried automatix ( which hosed my system ) the second time I installed it right from getfirefox.com
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, Universe.
[04:41] <KoruptidPryde> tonyyarusso, it isn't in the dapper repos
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, Well that might be different.
[04:42] <LiteHedded> no traceroute on ubuntu?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> LiteHedded, Not by default, but it's there.
[04:42] <LiteHedded> how do i gets it?
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> LiteHedded, sudo apt-get install traceroute
[04:43] <purplefeltangel> firefox keeps wanting to save PHTML files instead of loading them
[04:43] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:43] <LiteHedded> oh ok :D
[04:43] <ssstormy> I'm installing (compiling) a base linux system
[04:43] <ssstormy>  on my xbox, but
[04:43] <ssstormy> but at some point the xbox'es clock got reset
[04:43] <ssstormy> * ChanServ sets channel limit to 39
[04:43] <ssstormy>  so some files have messy dates, and the check for system sanity fails because the output files are older than the dist files
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> KoruptidPryde, You're right, it hasn't gotten into Dapper yet.  If you're going to use Dapper I guess you'll have to wait for it.
[04:43] <dirtbiker> _jason: I'm installing EasyUbuntu and Blitz Max.
[04:43] <ssstormy> are there any tools for changing the dates on files?
[04:43] <Mordof> question: can i set a folder inside my home directory for apache to use and not have any problems with permissions? or would i be better off to have it somewhere in an area where both users can use easily
[04:44] <codo> can someone tell me how to download the source code
[04:44] <ITSa341> ssstormy  which distro   xebian??
[04:44] <codo> I want to see this /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
[04:44] <Syco54645> how can i make a link on my desktop to a different drive that i have, like hde1
[04:44] <codo> what to apt-get for the source ?
[04:44] <ITSa341> ssstormy or Gentoox?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, linux-source-$(uname -r)
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, Wait, no.
[04:45] <amphi> ssstormy: touch
[04:45] <nbjayme> hello folks. i need to convert a bunch of svg files to png. can somebody point me to a command line? i am under ubuntu breezy.
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, Source is architecture-independent, so just the part of that that's the version number.
[04:45] <dirtbiker> anyone know how to install tar.bz2 files?
[04:45] <ssstormy> ITSa341, Gentoo for Xbox
[04:45] <ssstormy> amphi, so I just say touch * -R?
[04:45] <codo> tonyyarusso hmm
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> dirtbiker, What are you trying to install?
[04:45] <amphi> dirtbiker: tar jxvf whatever.tar.bz2
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> codo, Did you follow that?
[04:46] <ITSa341> ssstormy    I mod xboxes
[04:46] <codo> no
[04:46] <amphi> ssstormy: man touch ;)
[04:46] <nbjayme> dirtbiker:nautilus right click.
[04:46] <ITSa341> Gentoox is nice
[04:46] <nbjayme> dirtbiker:nautilus extract here.
[04:46] <ssstormy> ITSa341, coincidentally I'm dling an iso for xubuntu :) I'm hoping it's good too
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> codo, Okay.  Type 'uname -r' in a terminal and tell me the output.
[04:46] <ssstormy> I love the xbox modding stuff
[04:46] <ITSa341> ssstormy xubuntu   as in for xbox??
[04:46] <ssstormy> amphi, thanks.  I'm good friends with "man xxxx" :)
[04:46] <ssstormy> ITSa341, yeah I was pretty psyched
[04:47] <ssstormy> it's on the xbox-linux page
[04:47] <zcat[1] > x as in xfce
[04:47] <dirtbiker> tonyyarusso: I'm installing EasyUbuntu and Blitz Max and some games
[04:47] <ITSa341> ssstormy  try Win on xbox yet?
[04:47] <ssstormy> ITSa341, Win?  what, they have win2000 on it?
[04:47] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , I wouldn't wanna be running gnome on an xbox... not usually
[04:47] <ITSa341> ssstormy  WinCE 5
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> dirtbiker, Okay.  Just checking that they weren't things in the repos.
[04:47] <zcat[1] > ummmm.. is there an xbox distro called xubuntu?
[04:47] <ssstormy> ITSa341, is that a hacker dash?
[04:48] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , I might have the caps wrong, but yea
[04:48] <zcat[1] > 'cos the xfce one is called xubuntu..
[04:48] <zcat[1] > bugger..
[04:48] <ITSa341> ssstormy   Windows CE   ( Windows embedded ) and we're working on WinXPE right now
[04:48] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , I read something about how it was diff from the xfce version
[04:48] <zcat[1] > that's gonna cause confusion..
[04:48] <ssstormy> you mean like emulated?
[04:48] <ssstormy> zcat[1] , yeah especially for those of us like me who can't keep caps straight :)
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> dirtbiker, You probably want to see !compile and !checkinstall.
[04:49] <zcat[1] > xUbUntU
[04:49] <ITSa341> ssstormy   WinCE is a small Windows for like palms and others like phones etc
[04:49] <ssstormy> ITSa341, and it runs on xbox?
[04:50] <dirtbiker> Ubotu tell dirtbiker about compile
[04:50] <dtk> hi, can any body tell me how can I change the layout of my keboard?
[04:50] <ITSa341> ssstormy  WinCE works now and we're working on WinXPE trying to get it ready for this summer
[04:50] <ssstormy> ITSa341, wow... that's impressive
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> dtk, System > Preferences > Keyboard
[04:50] <ITSa341> ssstormy  WinCE can be found in the usual xbox places in a ready to run version for xbox.
[04:50] <dtk> well yes... but ive already done that
[04:51] <dtk> and it didnt actually changed
[04:51] <ITSa341> ssstormy   what dashboard you use?
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> dtk, Okay, how 'bout dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:51] <ssstormy> ITSa341, Ava and XBMC
[04:51] <ssstormy> ITSa341, except I'm heavily linux on that xbox now
[04:51] <dirtbiker> !compile
[04:51] <dtk> ill try that
[04:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[04:51] <dtk> thank you
[04:51] <Ralith> I get this error when trying to start X: "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'"
[04:51] <ITSa341> ssstormy  XBMC for me since I have 3 300gb drives, I run movies off my windows network and I use kai a lot
[04:51] <ssstormy> ITSa341, I'm making it into a diskless box for running frontends and remote login into my PC
[04:52] <nny> so i if i am compiling, and It can't locate a lib i have installed, what do i do?
[04:52] <Ralith> What do I need to do to fix?
[04:52] <dirtbiker> how do i get info from IRC?
[04:52] <ITSa341> ssstormy  cool
[04:52] <zcat[1] > take your font to a vet?
[04:52] <Mordof> Ralith, how do you talk on irc without X?
[04:52] <CompBrain> Mordof: irssi
[04:52] <nny> Mordof: BitchX
[04:52] <CompBrain> or bitchx
[04:52] <Mordof> ohhh
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, irssi's amazing.
[04:52] <Mordof> cool :)
[04:52] <purplefeltangel> firefox keeps wanting to save PHTML files instead of loading them. does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:52] <Ralith> Mordof: irssi.
[04:52] <ITSa341> ssstormy  I heard from one of our suppliers they are expecting the first set of 360 chips in April or possibly even march shipments
[04:52] <Mordof> so i should get one of those just incase i end up not being able to get into X
[04:52] <Ralith> I think it's a good idea.
[04:53] <Ralith> because X is one of the nastiest things to config correctly
[04:53] <Mordof> :)
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Yeah.  I got command line IRC and IM programs just in case.
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> Ralith: or you mean ntpd ? :)
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> s/mean/meant
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, And then found that I ended up using irssi a lot when X was working.
[04:53] <ssstormy> amphi, dude, all I ever used touch for was to make empty files.  I had no idea it was actually for timestamps!
[04:53] <Ralith> hatake_kakashi: what?
[04:53] <Ralith> hatake_kakashi: I've found ntpd easy to configure :P
[04:53] <Ralith> if a bit unintuitive.
[04:53] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, heh, so irssi is alot better than x-chat?
[04:53] <jordan> so, I just tried to access gmail on elinks (cli web browser) and it worked really fast and easy, I think that there must be a problem with firefoxe, should I try to reinstall it or something else?
[04:53] <Ralith> X, on the other hand, is being a big problem.
[04:54] <Ralith> I can't get it to even /start/ :P
[04:54] <bimberi> Mordof: you probably already have one, try "irc" in a terminal (usually runs irssi)
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> Ralith: the last I recall, getting ntpd to work well was a royal pain in terms of documentation standards
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Depends what you want to do with it.  It fit for me.  I'm actually in XChat for the moment, but have been using irssi more.  Aren't options great?
[04:54] <Ralith> the default config set up by the install didn't work
[04:54] <Ralith> so I grabbed someone else's made for this laptop
[04:54] <Ralith> it doesn't work, either
[04:54] <lobo> oi
[04:55] <Ralith> well, it does work
[04:55] <Ralith> but not when GDM uses it
[04:55] <alec_guiness> hi!  am in a good channel for asking newb questions or should i be somewhere else?
[04:55] <Ralith> I can start it by itself by running "X"
[04:55] <Ralith> brenner!
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> alec_guiness, Perfect.
[04:55] <bimberi> alec_guiness: this is the place :)
[04:55] <lobo> como eu instalo o AMsn!
[04:55] <La_PaRCa> !br
[04:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:56] <Eleaf> lhm
[04:56] <alec_guiness> great.  i wanted to wait and have some specific questions before i hit irc and bugged the support p33ps
[04:56] <jordan> hi, can anybody help me with my gmail problems, firefox wont get pass the login in screen but links, a text mode browser, it works perfectly
[04:56] <brenner> i'm using the k7 kernel.  how would i go about removing the old 386 one.  do i just remove all 386 related packages and update grub?
[04:56] <Mordof|Testing> hey cool :) irc from the terminal
[04:56] <purplefeltangel> firefox keeps wanting to save PHTML files instead of loading them. does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:56] <amphi> jordan: perhaps you need to enable javascript?
[04:57] <jordan> I think that I did, can you tell me how please?
[04:57] <Mordof|Testing> bleh, copying files from dvd, while installing updates is making my system laggy :S
[04:57] <alec_guiness> how exactly do i restrict a person to ssh (or more importantly sftp) access and keep them in their home directory with read only access to certain folders?
[04:57] <trumeptboy8282> purple, gmail seems to dislike some fx extensions (i had the same problem until i disabled Gmail Manager)
[04:57] <MrProper_> i installed jabberd2 then removed and installed jabber (when i install jabber it complains about a missing config file)
[04:58] <TiG4> What is some good software if I have an AVI file that I want to burn to a DVD so I can use it in my DVD Playerthat will also allow DVD Menu Creation?
[04:58] <jordan> I dont think I have any extensions, I can check
[04:59] <purplefeltangel> trumeptboy8282: i'm not having problems with Gmail . . . it's Neopets ;P
[04:59] <trumeptboy8282> sorry
[04:59] <purplefeltangel> thats okay . . . do you know how to get it to stop trying to save PHTML files? :S
[04:59] <TiG4> What is some good software if I have an AVI file that I want to burn to a DVD so I can use it in my DVD Playerthat will also allow DVD Menu Creation?
[04:59] <jordan> i'm having problems with gmail!
[05:00] <jordan> TiG4-i think that xine will play avi, but I'm not really sure
[05:00] <Mordof> jordan, what problems?
[05:00] <TiG4> No i dont want to play AVI, I want to burn AVI to DVD
[05:00] <_jason> jordan: close all isntances of firefox, run firefox in a terminal with 'firefox -safe-mode' and see if gmail works
[05:00] <ITSa341> what backup solution would be easiest to use for disaster recovery in Ubuntu? I mean easiest when it is time for recovery not necessarily easiest to set up or use.
[05:00] <jordan> jason-thanks, I'll try that
[05:01] <Aaron_Mason> How can I write a .bin/.cue image under ubuntu?
[05:02] <ITSa341> I'm looking for something that a user could easily recover from a major league screwed up system with little or no help from a tech or help line. Something similar to ghost.
[05:02] <jordan> jason-on my maching firefox -safe-mode isnt there, and when I typed in firefox -h it didnt have anything about a safe mode
[05:02] <_jason> jordan: really, what version?
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, Do they have another drive/partition/network server?
[05:03] <jordan> jason-the one that comes standard with 5.10
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> jordan, --safe-mode, with two hyphens at the beginning.
[05:03] <ITSa341> tonyarusso  I could supply either a second drive or network storage area.
[05:03] <jordan> thoyyarusso-thanks, I'll try that
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, I backup up mine with rsync.  dd works too.  Don't know what's best.
[05:03] <Mordof> jordan, in irc you can type the first couple letters of a persons name and hit tab (afaik)
[05:04] <Mordof> you seem to be getting names wrong.. just thought id point that out
[05:04] <jordan> Mordof, thanks
[05:04] <_jason> jordan: I'm pretty sure it
[05:04] <_jason> i hate '
[05:04] <Mordof> in most clients, when you say a persons name it highlights it for them, making it easier for them to help you
[05:04] <jordan> Mordof, first time ever
[05:04] <Mordof> jordan, in that case, welcome to the wonderful world of irc :)
[05:04] <zcat[1] > ITSa341: I used 'tar' to back up the home directory of the oneandonly user on my kids machine back when they were smaller. Pressing alt-uparrow automatically restored it.
[05:04] <jordan> _jason, it booted into safe mode, I'm logging in right now
[05:04] <_jason> jordan: I'm pretty sure it's been -safe-mode for a while, what does it say when you try?  invalid option?
[05:04] <jordan> Mordof, thanks
[05:05] <zcat[1] > not a bad kiosk setup really
[05:05] <jordan> _jason, I did --safe-mode and it worked
[05:05] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso  Would it take forever to backup a large partition with rsync?
[05:05] <jordan> _jason, I'm trying to log into gmail right now
[05:06] <amphi> ITSa341: finite time ;)
[05:06] <ITSa341> zcat  I really need to find something that does complete recovery from a non bootable system or at best a live cd. Can you tar a complete partition?
[05:06] <jordan> my problem wouldnt have anything to do with being on dial-up, would it?
[05:06] <zcat[1] > yes.
[05:07] <Mordof> jordan, what is your problem exactly?
[05:07] <_jason> jordan: probably not, I have used it fine with dial-up
[05:07] <Mordof> jordan, gmail works perfect on dialup, just loads slower..
[05:07] <zcat[1] > well, you can hack a script for a live CD that recreates the filesystem, untars over the network, and restores the MBR.
[05:08] <jordan> Mordof, it used to work, like last week, just this weekend and today it wont, but it did in links, a text mode browser, just not in firefox, should I reinstall firefox?
[05:08] <ITSa341> hmm, just answered my own question I think.  Could I boot a live cd, backup the partitions to a second disk and then if they have trouble they just switch boot disks in bios? Can ya think of an easier way for people who know how to point and click and not much more? I am very open to ideas here!! :-)
[05:08] <Mordof> jordan, worth a shot
[05:08] <alec_guiness> im assuming you guys are pretty busy usually.  im still here just doing homework.
[05:08] <jordan> Mordof, ok, I'll try
[05:08] <amphi> ITSa341: the sysresccd.org iso is very useful for such tasks - no X, just zsh and many handy tools
[05:09] <Mordof> jordan, if it works for everything but firefox, it would seem to be that firefox isnt working properly.. but i dunno it could be something else. ruling out possibilites is the only way to solving a problem though ;)
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, Depends how large.
[05:09] <_jason> jordan: does google's html mode work?
[05:09] <jordan> Mordof, yeah, I will reinstall with synaptic now
[05:09] <ITSa341> amphi   this needs to be usable by secretaries and reservationists who know nothing of linux or commands of any type.
[05:10] <Mordof> _jason, hmm, forgot about that mode :P heh, sorry
[05:10] <jordan> _jason,  I dont know how to access that without getting onto the inbox
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, I did maybe 30G in maybe 45 minutes?  Not exactly sure of that number.
[05:10] <zcat[1] > just make them a live CD to use, they can't screw it up in the first place.
[05:10] <amphi> ITSa341: I meant for you
[05:10] <_jason> jordan: the link for me is: http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=f
[05:11] <soberon> join /#ubuntu-es
[05:11] <ITSa341> tonyyarusso   that I could live with. This is for an office 2 1/2 hours from here. and they need to be able to get back up and running with no help or very little.
[05:11] <_jason> soberon: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:11] <soberon> thanks
[05:11] <zcat[1] > I think secretaries whouldn't need root, so there's little they can screw up and backing up home directories should be enough.. plus a magic key to restore everything
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> ITSa341, Ah.
[05:11] <amphi> ITSa341: if the two disks are identical, you could just dd one to the other
[05:12] <ITSa341> ahhh my win4lin windowsXP installation says 4 minutes to completion!!!
[05:12] <zcat[1] > BAH to dd mirrors. Use tar or cp -a and just dd the boot record..
[05:12] <jordan> _jason, I'm trying that link right now
[05:12] <ITSa341> amphi   sounds good   time to read about dd   ( I'm very much a newbie to linux desktops)
[05:12] <jordan> _jason, its doing the same thing as the other link
[05:13] <amphi> zcat[1] : you have to make the partitions too then, but yeah, dd is wasteful
[05:13] <zcat[1] > :-) dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda :-)
[05:13] <reqage> finally got around to installing ubuntu, what video player do you all recommend?
[05:13] <jordan> _jason, it worked it worked!
[05:14] <zcat[1] > It'd work, but you'd spend a while copying all the blank space on the drive too..
[05:14] <jordan> reqage,  xine is pretty good
[05:14] <amphi> ITSa341: good to have a big value for bs=
[05:14] <reqage> I'll check it out, thx
[05:14] <ITSa341> uh oh, temp is climbing on this laptop. I'm thinking win4lin might just load it up more than vmware did. This is an emachines m5305  they are known for overheating.
[05:14] <phiber_optic> which is better win4lin or vmware?
[05:14] <amphi> ITSa341: 'undervolt' the processor ;)
[05:15] <_jason> jordan: now only if you could figure out why standard doesn't work... seems like it's javascript related.  But since it didn't work in safe mode it means it probably isn't a setting or extension issue
[05:15] <ITSa341> amphi   wish I could, these m5305's don't get much time on batteries anyway.
[05:15] <zcat[1] > I dropped my media machine from 1.7 to 1.45v -- it was a bit unstable.. It's been running 1.55v all week though and it's great. Quite a bit cooler
[05:15] <ITSa341> phiber_optic   I'm comparing win4lin to vmware now.  Ask me in a couple weeks. :-)
[05:16] <ssstormy> phiber_optic, I'm using crossover office
[05:16] <ITSa341> ssstormy  I use crossover office also
[05:16] <zcat[1] > ..afk
[05:16] <lazyM0m3nt> Could you help me plz?
[05:16] <phiber_optic> are anya of these software free?
[05:16] <jordan> _jason, I dont know, it didnt have the link to go to normal mode on the top like it usually does when you are in html, I just reinstalled firefox so I had to close it down but I am opening it back up now
[05:16] <amphi> zcat[1] : made a big difference to my stinkpad - 70+C to ~ 50C under heavy load
[05:16] <ssstormy> lazyM0m3nt, specify the problem first, or no one can help
[05:16] <ssstormy> amphi, lol.  I'm oc'ing right now
[05:17] <ITSa341> phiber_optic   Wine is free and I think you can still get an open source version of crossover office
[05:17] <soberon> Excuse me... somebody can tell me what's the name of an applicaon for managing the Grub? I had he chance to see some with an icon of a red switch
[05:17] <lazyM0m3nt> why when my XMMS play music that oi cant hear sound from any program
[05:17] <_jason> jordan: maybe it's the chat feature, that happens to coincide with the timing
[05:17] <ssstormy> wish I could overclcok my xbox too, cause compiling kernels is something that I want speed for
[05:17] <ssstormy> lazyM0m3nt, try saying that again- I'm confused...
[05:17] <amphi> soberon: grub config is normally 'managed' with a text editor
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> !tell lazyM0m3nt about esd
[05:17] <jordan> _jason,  it works really fast now, I dont know what gives, maybe it happened when I reinstalled java and didnt restart firefox
[05:18] <_jason> jordan: oh, maybe
[05:18] <lazyM0m3nt> ESD ?
[05:18] <lazyM0m3nt> WHAT ?
[05:18] <ITSa341> phiber_optic    company bought me crossover office, vmware and win4lin to evaluate and compare them from a beginners point of view ( can a beginner install, setup and use it easily and dependable )  I'm trying them all
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> lazyM0m3nt, read the stuff from ubotu and the page linked to and it should start to make more sense.
[05:18] <_jason> lazyM0m3nt: go to preferences in xmms and choose ESD as the output
[05:18] <jordan> _jason, I've been using ubuntu full time for 3 months now, it was difficult to get dial-up to work for me
[05:18] <amphi> ITSa341: and the conclusion is ? ;)
[05:19] <redwolf> hey, need help getting a soundcard working
[05:19] <phiber_optic> ITSa341, I guess Ill wait for your conlcusion
[05:19] <lazyM0m3nt> NO ESD
[05:19] <ITSa341> amphi   just finishing up the win4lin setup now
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> jordan, Yeah, dialup was the interesting point for me just getting started too.
[05:19] <_jason> jordan: yeah, when I'm home I have to use windows.  My modem driver costs like 15 bucks a year which I am not going to pay
[05:19] <Mordof> jordan, i know what you mean... i stopped using linux while i was on dialup
[05:19] <ITSa341> says 2 minutes now.
[05:19] <lazyM0m3nt> It has ALSA , eSound and OSS
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> _jason, a year?  Which driver?
[05:19] <_jason> lazyM0m3nt: choose alsa
[05:19] <Mordof> _jason, you have to pay money per year for modem DRIVERS???
[05:20] <ITSa341> brb
[05:20] <jordan> I found an old real modem in my basement from my windows 3.1 days and used it perfectly with linux, you guys should try it with one of those babies, worked like a charm
[05:20] <Protocol1> _jason: get broadband
[05:21] <lazyM0m3nt> Thanks a Lot!
[05:21] <frogzoo> jordan: older modems won't support the later faster protocols v52 etc
[05:21] <_jason> tonyyarusso, Mordof: conexant, and I was wrong it's 19.99
[05:21] <lazyM0m3nt> It's Work
[05:21] <amphi> _jason: the linuxant driver?
[05:21] <Mordof> _jason, ohhh, my tv tuner is conexant
[05:21] <_jason> Protocol1: heh I have broadband, I just use dialup when I go home for vacations and such, although dsl is getting cheap
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> _jason, You don't have to pay each year though, only if it stops working after a kernel upgrade.
[05:22] <Mordof> _jason, speaking of which, i need to get my tv tuner working in ubuntu
[05:22] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ah, right that was it
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> _jason, (Same driver)
[05:22] <Protocol1> i see
[05:22] <jordan> but then my isp (peoplepc) scrambles my password into a 27 digit password that I had to use dialguard 1.1 to find it out
[05:22] <Mordof> _jason, i just dropped windows ENTIRELY and i have no idea how im gonna do a bunch of stuff on linux :S im hoping i can get it all working decent
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> _jason, At which point you can always boot the older kernel while at the location which requires dialup.
[05:22] <jordan> I read an acticle on mythtv, it looks really cool for tvtuners
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Nice!  Cold turkey OS switching...
[05:23] <_jason> tonyyarusso: that's true.  Don't know if it's worth 20 bucks to me though
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> _jason, For me it was either that or have no internet over Christmas break.
[05:23] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, heh, yeah... well it wasnt QUITE cold turkey, i mean.. i installed dual boot for a couple days, but then decided i wanted to go all out linux
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Mordof, Ah, okay.
[05:23] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, im still kinda new to linux, so ill probably be asking alot of questions soon :P
[05:23] <jordan> I went cold turkey too, but I still have M$ on my box for my dad to play hearts, havnt been able to find a hearts clone for linux
[05:24] <elky> mordof lol @ the switch. i'm jealous actually. i sorta need to keep that other os around for things cos im a web developer
[05:24] <nemik> so when i get new docs from the synaptic, how do i read them?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> jordan, "Floater is a free program for duplicate bridge play on the Internet.  It also supports non-duplicate bridge and 3-player hearts."  <-- Might be a start
[05:25] <Mordof> elky, so am i, why do you need another OS for web development, what kinda stuff do you do
[05:25] <jordan> tonyyarusso, can you play it without internet?
[05:25] <elky> mordof uh, asp.net :)
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> jordan, Don't know.  Just got that from apt-cache.
[05:25] <lazyM0m3nt> Sorry, I'm newbie in IRC Chat.
[05:25] <ITSa341> win4lin machine is rebooting now
[05:26] <lazyM0m3nt> I can't use this well. How can i send PM to anyone in Channel
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> elky, Silly you.
[05:26] <Mordof> elky, er, apache has asp.net module support.. and linux has .net support, does it not?
[05:26] <jordan> tonyyarusso, kay, I'll try it
[05:26] <elky> mordof well, learned at school, cant just throw away money opportunities
[05:26] <Mordof> elky, you dont need another os to do asp.net
[05:26] <elky> mordof im better at php though
[05:26] <jordan> mono=.net
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> lazyM0m3nt, Generally, ask first, the /msg nick blah blah, and you both have to be registered.
[05:26] <Mordof> elky, i know both.. i use php more though
[05:26] <elky> mordof same. php = awesomeness
[05:27] <Mordof> elky, yeah :)
[05:27] <elky> mordof i feel so constricted in asp and asp.net is just a pain in the rear
[05:27] <Mordof> lol
[05:27] <nemik> so where are the docs for various bindings and such stored when i download them with apt-get?
[05:28] <Mordof> elky, hey man can i add you to msn? ive got a few cool projects id like to discuss, looking to get some help with them
[05:28] <jordan> nemik, maybe in /tmp?
[05:28] <knopf> hi. I have a gpg key, which will soon expire. I know how to extend it, but when I do so, will my public key change? The documentation explains, how to extend the time, but now what it affects. thanks.
[05:28] <elky> mordof firstly, female and australian, if that makes things difficult ;)
[05:29] <Mordof> elky, heh, nah doesnt bother me
[05:29] <nemik> jordan why there? shoudn't it be more permanent?
[05:29] <ITSa341> ok  so far win4lin seems very slow.
[05:29] <elky> mordof well, pm me if you can then so i know who to add.
[05:29] <Mordof> elky, its not for pay or anything if thats what your thinking, just thinking about projects for fun.. *shrugs*
[05:29] <makaveli> elky u blond?
[05:29] <jordan> nemik, I dont know, some things that I download from apt are in tmp, so it was just a shot in the dark
[05:29] <elky> makaveli o.O
[05:30] <nemik> jordan, cool; i'll look there. thanks!
[05:31] <dbernar1_> nemik: are you asking where apt downloads packages?
[05:31] <knopf> shit. it differs.
[05:32] <ITSa341> sure takes a lot longer to set up win4lin and setup a guest os in it.
[05:33] <jordan> ITSa341, lol, why are you doing that?
[05:33] <nemik> dbernar1_: not really, for example; i got py-gtk docs, where can i read them though? where are they?
[05:33] <ITSa341> jordan   there are a few windows apps we cannot be without here.
[05:33] <dbernar1_> nemik: sudo dpkg -L py-pgtk-doc, or whatever the package name is.
[05:34] <jordan> ITSa341, like what?
[05:34] <jerrod> yo
[05:34] <nemik> ok, i'll try that. thank you
[05:34] <ITSa341> a very modified version of FlexRent for property management for starters as well as Guestall
[05:34] <dbernar1_> nemik: lists all files that came with the package, and where they are
[05:35] <jerrod> im having some issues extracting data from a .iso disk (windows xp pro). any suggestions?
[05:35] <jerrod> ??^^
[05:35] <jordan> ITSa341, have you tried running it with wine?
[05:35] <ITSa341> jordan   MS streets and trips also unless you can point me to a comparable program with usb gps support
[05:36] <ITSa341> jordan  winde, crossover office etc
[05:36] <dbernar1_> jerrod: what troubles?
[05:36] <TiG4> Whats a good program to create DVD Menus?
[05:36] <jordan> ITSa341, I will search for one of those, but that would also be nice for me and I havent heard of one:)
[05:36] <ITSa341> wine**
[05:36] <jerrod> its stopped at the extracting progress bar bouncing back and forth
[05:37] <jordan> it doesnt work in wine or crossover?
[05:37] <dbernar1_> jerrod: have you tried mounting the ISO?
[05:37] <jerrod> greek >> english  (lol)
[05:37] <ITSa341> jordan I tried "gps drive" but it loads to the splash screen and stops there. on top in the way.
[05:38] <jordan> ITSa341, well, thats not fun. heh
[05:38] <samantha> asl?
[05:38] <elkbuntu> wrong place for that, dear
[05:38] <Ralith> Simple question for y'all: how do I add an initscript to the default runlevel?
[05:38] <jerrod> dbernar1_: shouldnt it automount?
[05:39] <jordan> 19/m/usa(mi0
[05:39] <ITSa341> jordan if it was up to me we'd just switch systems completely except for the laptops which need gps mapping software.
[05:39] <dbernar1_> jerrod: an iso?
[05:39] <jordan> ITSa341, yeah, linux is pretty much god of pc
[05:39] <dr_willis> Ralith,  ya may want to read up on the 'sysv' init system.  I forget what the default runlevel even is..
[05:39] <jerrod> dbernar1_: im new to ubuntu so, how would i go about doing that?
[05:39] <dbernar1_> Ralith: maybe add it to the /etc/init.d directory, not sure
[05:40] <cristina> hello
[05:40] <dr_willis> Hmm. i havent noticed ubuntu having a rc.local or whatever type 'service' that gets ran at the different runlevels
[05:40] <ITSa341> jordan  my smoothwall linux machine was last rebooted almost 5 yrs ago
[05:40] <dbernar1_> jerrod: "man mount" in a terminal
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Welcome.
[05:40] <jerrod> thanx
[05:40] <cristina> asl?
[05:40] <dr_willis> init.d holds the scriopts that are linked to the specific run level dirs.
[05:40] <jordan> ITSa341, lol, awesome
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> Heh.  Bad tab complete.
[05:40] <dbernar1_> cristina: wrong channel.
[05:40] <brenner> heh
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> cristina, Welcome.
[05:40] <tanubis> man iwlist
[05:40] <tanubis> .......
[05:40] <tanubis> oops.
[05:40] <cristina> its my first time to use ubuntu
[05:41] <ITSa341> jordan   and it's never been hacked to my knowledge
[05:41] <cristina> asl
[05:41] <jordan> cristina, good, hope you love it, 19/m/usa
[05:41] <cristina> hi
[05:41] <brenner> cristina: #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to socialise
[05:41] <cristina> jordan how are you
[05:41] <foampeace> anyone try the northland demo? http://www.rune-soft.com/englisch/Projektseiten/northland/northland.html
[05:41] <dbernar1_> cristina: we do not chat much here, per se. we fix each other's computer problems. this is a support channel. try "/topic" for more details. you can use #ubuntu-offtopic for random conversations.
[05:41] <Ralith> dbernar1_: sorry, was somewhere else
[05:41] <cristina> im 20f  philippines
[05:42] <\DCCOLE> how do i update hoary to breezy
[05:42] <Ralith> dbernar1_: that's where initscripts are stored; will they run automatically?
[05:42] <jordan> ITSa341, hey, can you boot an OS from a server to a regular pc over ethernet?
[05:42] <\DCCOLE> and how do i get anjuta
[05:42] <dbernar1_> Ralith: when you boot, afaik yes. Again, I am not very knowledgeable about that, I never yet had to add something there.
[05:42] <ITSa341> jordan  it can be done but I'm not the one to ask for help with it   LOL
[05:42] <simosx> do ppl get that desperate for tech support?
[05:42] <dbernar1_> simosx: ?
[05:42] <Ralith> dbernar1_: well, it's a start.
[05:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell \DCCOLE about breezy
[05:43] <jordan> ITSa341, all right, thanks anyways
[05:43] <\DCCOLE> thanks Jason
[05:43] <thor> is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[05:43] <dbernar1_> thor: in gnome?
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> thor, You can set one.
[05:43] <thor> yeah
[05:43] <dr_willis> thor,  check the preferances - you can make one
[05:43] <_jason> thor: you can set one up with system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[05:43] <dbernar1_> thor: system>prefs>kbd shortcuts
[05:43] <thor> ok lemme see
[05:43] <\DCCOLE> ubotu tell DCCOLE about Respitories
[05:43] <dbernar1_> no.
[05:43] <ITSa341> jordan  you'de be better off reading about it. I would have to.
[05:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell \DCCOLE about repositories
[05:44] <\DCCOLE> Thanks
[05:44] <\DCCOLE> i have trouble memorizing
[05:44] <jordan> ITSa341, kay, I've been asking the guys at work, I work at staples but they really dont know
[05:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell \DCCOLE about msg the bot
[05:44] <cristina> jordan hello
[05:44] <amphi> cristina: ok, I believe you about the philippines ;)
[05:44] <dbernar1_> amphi: is that a diss?
[05:44] <jordan> cristina, hi
[05:45] <amphi> dbernar1_: a what?
[05:45] <foampeace> whats morphos?
[05:45] <tanubis> people in the philippines can afford computers?  I thought that was a very poor country...
[05:45] <brenner> amphi: smart man
[05:45] <cristina> jordan?are you a filipino?
[05:45] <amphi> age/sex/location/uptime ;)
[05:45] <jordan> cristina, no
[05:45] <hatake_kakashi> I wonder if it is possible to first install Kubuntu Hoary CD and then install Ubuntu Hoary CD, so that I get both KDE/Gnome?
[05:46] <dbernar1_> tanubis: ph is/was a US colony
[05:46] <cristina> amphi 20f philippines
[05:46] <brenner> tanubis: poor people need porn too
[05:46] <dbernar1_> amphi: :)
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, Sure.
[05:46] <jordan> hatake_kakashi, you can install kde on ubuntu and gnome on kubuntu
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> jordan: tried that before, but it seems to have messed things up
[05:46] <tanubis> brenner: Then why chat here instead of something like #hackedpornpasswords? :P
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: hmm
[05:46] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: not in the same system. You would have 2 separate installations. You can look into the kubuntu-desktop, and ubuntu-desktop packages.
[05:46] <amphi> cristina: yeah, I saw above, thanks
[05:47] <cristina> your asl pls.amphi
[05:47] <Madpilot> tanubis: there are actually a bunch of Ubuntu contributors from .ph
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, You'd probably want to just apt-get ubuntu-desktop from the disk before adding online sources, not try to do separate installs or something.
[05:47] <amphi> asl temporarily unavailable
[05:47] <jordan> hatake_kakashi, I dont think you can install both GDE and KDE on the same thing though, just try installing kde and Gnome
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: ok will try that
[05:48] <danl> is there a program to do checksums on all the files in a folder, if any fail, replace it with a backup stored somewhere else?
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> dbernar1_: ahh kinda thought so
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> jordan: well I think tonyyarusso's idea might work
[05:48] <ITSa341> bbiab
[05:48] <tanubis> Madpilot: yea...  I guess I was just misinformed.  I have one friend from the ph, and he says that he makes more at wallmart here doing parttime than five average people over there do in a month.
[05:48] <dbernar1_> jordan: you can. ubuntu-desktop package installs everything desktop related that a Ubuntu install installs, and the kubuntu-desktop installs everything desktop related that the kubuntu install installs. Such redundancy in that sentence.
[05:49] <dr_willis> I always seem to install gnome-desktop and kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop :P with no hassles...
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> jordan, What do you mean by on the same thing?  I have Gnome, KDE, IceWM, Enlightenment, Afterstep, Fluxbox, XFCE all on the same installation/partition/disk.
[05:49] <dr_willis> are there any other -desktops? :P
[05:49] <amphi> heh
[05:49] <dbernar1_> tanubis: you should learn the basics of economies
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> though it would be nice if there was one installation for both KDE and Gnome
[05:49] <dr_willis> fluxubuntu-desktop? :P
[05:49] <dr_willis> hatake_kakashi,  i think the installer should just ask. :P  and download the right one.
[05:49] <dr_willis> or both
[05:49] <dbernar1_> dr_willis: sudo aptitude search desktop
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> dr_willis, I don't think so...not yet anyway.
[05:50] <jordan> tonyyarusso, yeah, I've had it before also, I just heard not to have GDE and the k package equivilant on the same box before, maybe I'm wrong
[05:50] <jordan> tonyyarusso, I love xfce
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> dr_willis: nah, I was thinking of installing it from the net, it should be compined on the disk
[05:50] <dr_willis> dbernar1,  right now :P installing/downloading 134 packages... in a few min perhaps. :P
[05:50] <amphi> jordan: no, they can coexist
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> dr_willis: what if some user is on dialup connection but wants both gnome and kde? :D
[05:50] <dbernar1_> dr_willis: /msg ubotu find desktop
[05:50] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: they must suffer greatly ;)
[05:51] <dr_willis> hatake_kakashi,  Bah! dialup is for old ladies to check their email and play Puzzle Pirates! :p
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> jordan, Don't know who told you that nonsense.
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: well.. unfortunately, that may also mean I will have to suffer because of stupid capitalism it works around here
[05:51] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: well, you could just getr the packages off the CD, and install them manually.
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> dr_willis: ditto to what I said to amphi just then
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, They run it overnight.  Or go to the library.
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> dbernar1_: yeah.. that could be an idea
[05:52] <dbernar1_> Yes, it appears to be an idea
[05:52] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: library here does not have a place where you can just hook your computer up.. maybe through wifi but I bet you that they will make you pay for it
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, dbernar1: Why install manually?  The CD works as an apt source.
[05:52] <dbernar1_> tonyyarusso: very good.
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, I have free high-speed wifi at my library, dunno about you.
[05:52] <Engla> My install hangs at "Mounting root file system .... ok" and then nothing more shows in usplash. After 5 mins it reboots and comes back to the same place. This is a recent dapper install
[05:52] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: or use a lightweight wm
[05:52] <Engla> What happens after "mounting root file system"?
[05:53] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: I used linux for years on dialup
[05:53] <dbernar1_> the leaves start growing
[05:53] <Engla> and is there any mode I can drop into to fix it?
[05:53] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: so if I install kubuntu, I change the disk to ubuntu (both Hoary), I can then simply mount the cd, change the sources.list to point to Ubuntu cd as well and then apt-get install gnome-desktop?
[05:53] <dbernar1_> ubuntu-desktop is the package name.
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi, ubuntu-desktop, but yes.
[05:54] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: you could probably just edit one letter in that sources.list file, and get it done. it installs a CD repo on install.
[05:54] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me out for a minute
[05:54] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: Remember to reload your package list after that.
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> !helpme
[05:54] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: same but I would much prefer to get it done a little quickly because I have many packages to get and I have to do updates too lol.. fortunately I hope that my previous downloads for kubuntu updates will work.. if it does, that may only mean I need to update my Ubuntu part to 5.10 as well
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> dbernar1_: yeah, will do, thanks
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: thanks
[05:56] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: uhuh - I fear there will be much to d/l
[05:56] <IXKoDiaKXI> haha alright well im just installed my wireless card wmp54gs using ndiswrapper.. when i boot up my computer with the /etc/network/interface file the way it is it will connect to my router but i cannot access the internet or even ping my router .. if i make any changes i lose the connection to my router and have to restart the computer .. anyone help?
[05:57] <dbernar1_> no rush...never underestimate the bandwidth of a station vagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway
[05:57] <amphi> dbernar1_: heh
[05:57] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: are you booted in ubuntu now? is this the same computer?
[05:57] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: the thing is I have previously upgraded my Kubuntu from 5.04 to 5.10 whilst it was on a higher speed connection. Now the internet seems to be shaped at my end. I'm hoping that with the cache that I still have can be used on reinstalling Kubuntu 5.04 again
[05:58] <typing05> ubuntu rules
[05:58] <dbernar1_> hatake_kakashi: should be possible.
[05:58] <hatake_kakashi> err updating Kubuntu 5.04 again
[05:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> im using my laptop but my desktop is using ubuntu and its right beside me
[05:58] <jordan> well, thanks for the help and stuff, time for bed
[05:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> ive been working on this for days now
[05:58] <reqage> is root login different in ubuntu compared to other distros?
[05:58] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: and you can not get online on the desktop, or you can?
[05:58] <typing05> ksljfga
[05:58] <dr_willis> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <amphi> IXKoDiaKXI: what happens if you run dhclient on the wifi iface?
[05:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> no not on my desktop
[05:58] <typing05> mga putang ina nyo
[05:58] <reqage> thx
[05:58] <hatake_kakashi> dbernar1_: that's the problem that I will have to somewhat encounter..
[05:59] <hatake_kakashi> anyone done offline apt-get installations?
[06:00] <morphix> does ubuntu have issues with multiple devices on Promise IDE/SATA/RAID Controller cards??
[06:00] <morphix> i cant seem to install with all devices turned on nor even run live cd
[06:00] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: a good start would be to post the output of "ifconfig" and "cat /etc/network/interfaces" to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:00] <dr_willis> morphix,  mine dident.
[06:01] <morphix> dr_willis: mines built onto my motherboard tho
[06:01] <hatake_kakashi> hmm.. blah.. oh well.. guess I'm on my own, then. Thanks again for the input people
[06:01] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: and answer amphi's question when you get a chance.
[06:01] <IXKoDiaKXI> it ges throught the DHCPREQUEST twice and th DHCPDISCOVER a bunch then says "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[06:01] <dbernar1_> heh
[06:01] <morphix> i should have set chipset rather than card
[06:02] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: you tried power cycling the router? and is there any security on the router?
[06:02] <lamp420> hi, I need help getting a configure script to run before compiling liveICE... can anyone help me? =)
[06:02] <dr_willis> morphix,  mine are also.
[06:03] <dr_willis> morphix,  proberly a specific mb/bios/chipset issue
[06:03] <IXKoDiaKXI> yeah i have 64 bit WEP encryption... but ive tried it without WEP and it does the same thing
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> lamp420, It might help you get help to give more detail.
[06:03] <IXKoDiaKXI> yeah ive power cycled the router once before and nothing
[06:03] <lamp420> it says I don't have gtk+ installed but I do... it can't find a gtk-config script... I'm not sure about the best way to get it to recognize it
[06:03] <rewt__> i need help
[06:03] <dbernar1_> suop rewt__
[06:03] <rewt__> accidently took off my su privelages
[06:04] <rewt__> hey db
[06:04] <Mordof> is there any way to say "make all files inside and including this folder to 775"?
[06:04] <dr_willis> Mordof,  chmod -R
[06:04] <dbernar1_> rewt__: reboot, go into recovery mode by hitting escape during boot, then "adduser rewt admin" or replace rewt with your user name, and that should work. You use breezy?
[06:04] <Mordof> dr_willis, thanks
[06:04] <xored> i just deleted a file, how can i reconstruct it ( its a small file )what modprobe to load for hda intel soudn chipsets ?
[06:05] <rewt__> yes
[06:05] <xored> what modprobe to load for hda intel soudn chipsets ?
[06:05] <dr_willis> Mordof,  throw off the GUI shackles! :p
[06:05] <dbernar1_> lamp420: sudo aptitude search gtk look for -dev packages
[06:05] <Mordof> dr_willis, heh
[06:05] <rewt__> no way to do it out of recovery mode
[06:05] <rewt__> ?
[06:05] <dbernar1_> rewt__: not afaik.
[06:05] <lamp420> dbernarl_, thanks
[06:06] <dbernar1_> dber<tab>
[06:06] <dbernar1_> !nicktab
[06:06] <ubuntu> hi
[06:06] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: post those two to pastebin that I told you if you can.
[06:07] <lamp420> 101
[06:07] <dbernar1_> lamp420: 1230
[06:07] <IXKoDiaKXI> im about to move my router and cable modem to my room so that i can ethernet cable so it will be a minute
[06:07] <lamp420> dbernar1, you're 1337
[06:08] <kwhatcher> hey does anyone know how to setup a belkin usb wifi adapter?
[06:08] <dbernar1_> lamp420: of course.
[06:08] <kwhatcher> could you help?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> kwhatcher, First check out !wifi to see if that helps.
[06:09] <kwhatcher> what is that?
[06:09] <morphix> dr_willis my issue is.. if i have sata and 3rd devices on at the same time.. ubuntu kernel panics.. and if i am trying to install ubuntu..the cd drom drive wont mount
[06:09] <danielgravenor> how do I delete /media/hdb1?
[06:09] <morphix> but if i disable sata or 3rd ide
[06:09] <morphix> it works
[06:09] <app3dxf> is there anyone in here who would be able to help me with an ivtv (WinPVR) driver issue?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> kwhatcher, See the message from ubotu.
[06:10] <morphix> it seems it wont work with sata and 3rd IDE at the same time with goin nuts
[06:10] <morphix> without*
[06:10] <foampeace> we need to stop buying windows crap hardware
[06:10] <foampeace> i have a printer sitting here from canon and theyre against linux
[06:10] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: you may be better unmounting it. what is on it?
[06:10] <danielgravenor> i need to unmount 2 drives, hdb1 and hdb5... how can I remove them from the /media folder?
[06:11] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: just use umount, is that what you are asking?
[06:11] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, its just a second harddrive
[06:11] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, yep basically :p
[06:11] <JimmyPToz> how do you set the default mta, or check what is the default mta
[06:11] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: "sudo umount /dev/hdbX" X is the number.
[06:12] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, what happens if I have already deleted the entries from the fstab? (loL)
[06:12] <foampeace> is there some way i can use a windows printer driver so i can use my printer?
[06:12] <darthbutcher> !dvd
[06:12] <ubotu> dvd is probably DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:12] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: you mean, that is the error you get?
[06:13] <dbernar1_> foampeace: have you looked at linuxprinting.org?
[06:13] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, yeah, cause i have deleted it from the fstab (lol)
[06:14] <danielgravenor> my installation is going soooooooo wrong.  i have already lost my second hard drive with all my backups of stuff :/
[06:14] <darthbutcher> What is the best program for watching DVDs?
[06:14] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: show the error message. add them to fstab. Those would be valid options.
[06:14] <overflow-1> I have a USB HDD that appears as /dev/sda1, now through fdisk i created 4 partitions inside it. But then I am unable to create a filesystem on it, that is mkefs -f /dev/sda1p1 etc
[06:14] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: aww.
[06:15] <zcat[1] > suggestion if you're not 100% sure what you're doing during an install (I do it too).. unplug any drives you can't afford to get wiped.
[06:16] <IXKoDiaKX1> dbernar1 : alright im back and going to paste that on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <danielgravenor> dbernar1, it says that it isn't mounted
[06:17] <darthbutcher> !dvdplayer
[06:17] <ubotu> darthbutcher: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:17] <dbernar1_> overflow-1: are you sure that exists? /dev/sda1p1? usually it is /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2...look in your /dev directory for more info
[06:17] <darthbutcher> What is the best Ubuntu DVD player?
[06:17] <zcat[1] > sda1 is sda, partition 1
[06:17] <dbernar1_> danielgravenor: then it is not, it seems. do "sudo mount"
[06:17] <zcat[1] > sda1p1 makes no sense
[06:17] <dbernar1_> agreed
[06:18] <zcat[1] > fdisk -l /dev/sda might help..
[06:18] <zcat[1] > (lists partitions on /dev/sda)
[06:19] <overflow-1> dbernar1_, zcat[1]  : I'll check it out and get back. Tnx.
[06:19] <IXKoDiaKX1> dbernar1_: ok its up there
[06:19] <dbernar1_> brb
[06:19] <taylor_> how would i compile "incompetence.tar.gz"
[06:19] <amphi> darthbutcher: I liek mplayer
[06:20] <amphi> er, like
[06:20] <lamp420> dbernar1, ok, it worked.. I feel dumb.
[06:20] <dbernar1_> darthbutcher: any is fine.try xine.
[06:20] <dbernar1_> the feeling is mutual
[06:20] <dbernar1_> haha
[06:20] <amphi> taylor_: tar zxvf incompetence.tar.gz
[06:20] <dbernar1_> no, just joking, but I thought it would be funny to sayu
[06:20] <zcat[1] > taylor_: tar xzf incompetence.tar.gz ; cd incompetence/ ; ./configure ; make
[06:20] <amphi> taylor_: and read README and/or INSTALL
[06:20] <dbernar1_> lamp420: no offense. Common thing to ask here.
[06:20] <taylor_> so that will compile it for me if i copy and paste that?
[06:20] <zcat[1] > compile as in build source code from incompetence.tar.gz ?
[06:21] <zcat[1] > of compile as in make an archive called incompetence.tar.gz?
[06:21] <zcat[1] > s/of/or/
[06:21] <taylor_> build source
[06:21] <zcat[1] > yeah, ok.. what I said :)
[06:21] <Ralith> well, X is working now :)
[06:21] <darthbutcher> !xine
[06:21] <Ralith> but I can't seem to modify my pointer settings.
[06:21] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[06:21] <darthbutcher> How do I install sine?
[06:21] <Ralith> Specifically, speed.
[06:21] <darthbutcher> xine*
[06:22] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKX1: you did not get an IP address from the router.
[06:22] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get install build-essentials  might also be a good idea..
[06:22] <IXKoDiaKX1> yeah i do but only when i restart the computer
[06:22] <dbernar1_> turn off the security, and try again. that is what I would do.
[06:22] <darthbutcher> I have little time
[06:22] <zcat[1] > so you have a compiler and stuff.
[06:22] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKX1: go get an IP address.
[06:22] <IXKoDiaKX1> once i did dhclient it messed it up
[06:22] <IXKoDiaKX1> alright well ill be right back
[06:22] <rehpotsirhc> anybody know where i can get a ubuntu package for gaim 2?
[06:24] <elkbuntu> it's fairly stable atm
[06:24] <Ralith> I'm unable to modify my cursor acceleration for some reason.
[06:24] <Ralith> I've found the proper dialog and slider, but it doesn't /do/ anything
[06:24] <zcat[1] > Is there an iso for it yet?
[06:24] <lamp420> exit
[06:24] <Ralith> even after logging in/out
[06:24] <lamp420> gah
[06:24] <Ralith> heh
[06:24] <Ralith> 'lo again brenner
[06:24] <morphix> :(
[06:25] <brenner> Ralith: heh, hello. :)
[06:25] <\DCCOLE> i need a respitory for packages
[06:25] <zcat[1] > I'm gonna dist-upgrade my other box and see what breaks.
[06:25] <danl> how does my harddrive become read only on it's own? specifically the partition my home directory is on?
[06:25] <\DCCOLE> like amule
[06:25] <zcat[1] > danl: it failed an fsck?
[06:25] <taylor_> i hate compiling! is there a program that will do it? like a GUI
[06:25] <dbernar1_> danl: it does not. post your /etc/fstab file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:26] <dbernar1_> taylor_: see checkinstall
[06:26] <danl> seems to be an error in fstab
[06:27] <taylor_> where is checkinstall
[06:27] <taylor_> ?
[06:27] <zcat[1] > /dev/foo /home auto ro 0 0
[06:27] <danl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8631
[06:28] <brenner> taylor_: compiling what? use checkinstall
[06:28] <MemeticVirus> How long does it usually take for the ubuntu staff to ship a set of CD's?
[06:28] <zcat[1] > MemeticVirus: up to 6 weeks.
[06:28] <MemeticVirus> o
[06:28] <dbernar1_> danl: looks fine here. send this as a message to the channel: "exec -o ls -ld /home"
[06:29] <MemeticVirus> get what you pay for. :P
[06:29] <taylor_> i have a source file "incompetence.tar.gz" on my desktop that i want to be able to run...but i dont understand anything about compiling so i was hoping that there was a GUI to do it for me?
[06:29] <overflow-1> dbernar1_, zcat[1]  : worked! tnx guys
[06:29] <zcat[1] > this creates an opportunity; you can sell them on ebay for $5 overnight and make some profit :)
[06:29] <danl> exec -o ls -ld /home
[06:29] <danl> hrm?
[06:29] <zcat[1] > from ppl that don't want to wait 6 weeks
[06:29] <dbernar1_> sorry
[06:29] <dbernar1_> heh
[06:29] <dbernar1_> danl: looks fine here. send this as a message to the channel: "/exec -o ls -ld /home"
[06:29] <MemeticVirus> zcat is that legal?
[06:29] <danl> drwxr-xr-x  4 danl root 4096 2006-02-09 14:41 /home
[06:29] <taylor_> i have a source file "incompetence.tar.gz" on my desktop that i want to be able to run...but i dont understand anything about compiling so i was hoping that there was a GUI to do it for me
[06:30] <zcat[1] > legal, absoltely. ethical? who knows..
[06:30] <Madpilot> MemeticVirus: it is - the GPL doesn't forbid selling - far from it
[06:30] <dr_willis> the idea of 'running' a tar.gz is incorrect.
[06:30] <MemeticVirus> yeah but that's really not selling it's "re-selling."
[06:30] <taylor_> i know so i neeed to compile it
[06:30] <dr_willis> taylor_,  what is it supposed tobe exactly?
[06:30] <zcat[1] > some ppl think it's kinda sleezy.. I sell them with a quickstart guide and an hour tech support..
[06:30] <taylor_> a halo 2 modding program
[06:30] <beastboy21> what package do i need to open a terminal on "right click"
[06:31] <MemeticVirus> zcat well i suppose that's alright.
[06:31] <taylor_> if i sent the file to someone could they maybe compile it for me?
[06:31] <danl> drwxr-xr-x  69 danl danl 4096 2006-02-14 00:08 /home/danl
[06:31] <dbernar1_> danl: "sudo chown -R danl:danl /home/danl&&sudo chmod -R 711 /home/danl"
[06:31] <MemeticVirus> do you burn your own?
[06:31] <dr_willis> taylor_,  you will have to install  the C compiler and other tools.  'apt-get install build-essential'
[06:31] <beastboy21> what package do i need to open a terminal on "right click"
[06:31] <zcat[1] > nah, get them from shipit.
[06:31] <dbernar1_> beastboy21: nautilus-open-terminal
[06:31] <bimberi> beastboy21: nautilus-open-terminal
[06:31] <nimper> i have a problem installing ubuntu
[06:31] <MemeticVirus> hmm
[06:32] <fangorious> nimper: the first step is admitting it
[06:32] <nimper> yeah
[06:32] <elkbuntu> nimper, specifically?
[06:32] <nimper> lol
[06:32] <nimper> specifically there's something in my bios settings that it doesn't like
[06:32] <beastboy21> thks
[06:32] <nimper> so it takes forever to install and configure.
[06:32] <dbernar1_> danl: that actually looked fine.
[06:32] <nimper> we're talking hours.
[06:32] <danl> hmm
[06:32] <danl> now it's not
[06:32] <elkbuntu> nimper does it say what the prob is?
[06:32] <nimper> no
[06:32] <nimper> it just says check my bios
[06:32] <danl> after running what you sent it looks like this:
[06:32] <danl> drwxr-xr-x  69 danl danl 4096 2006-02-14 00:08 /home/danl
[06:32] <danl> n/m
[06:33] <danl> when i run that form console its different
[06:33] <danl> n/m
[06:33] <danl> when i ran what you sent i got a buch of read only file system errors
[06:33] <zcat[1] > "something in BIOS" == CPU speed 133MHz, RAM 64MB ?
[06:33] <nimper> zcat, no
[06:34] <fangorious> nimper: what part of the install says to check the bios?
[06:34] <nimper> configuring packages
[06:34] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:34] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:34] <dbernar1_> danl: show them on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:34] <zcat[1] > set bios back to defaults or fastest, then change boot order and nothing else.. that usually works for me.
[06:34] <fangorious> nimper: is that package selection, or when it's running dpkg-configure on all the installed apps?
[06:35] <lazyM0m3nt> I cant Use NAT for My bittorrent! What should i do with Azereus?
[06:35] <nimper> fangorious, when it's running the config.
[06:35] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you mean you can't configure your nat device to forward the port?
[06:35] <MemeticVirus> zcat can i see your ebay ad?
[06:35] <lazyM0m3nt> yeh
[06:36] <fangorious> nimper: does it run slow for all of them, or does it happen to slow down on a particular one?
[06:36] <zcat[1] > not actually ebay, and I don't have any listed atm..
[06:36] <nimper> all of them
[06:36] <MemeticVirus> ah ok
[06:36] <JimmyPToz> what is the signifigance of the /var/run directory
[06:36] <zcat[1] > trademe.. a local site like ebay :)
[06:36] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: unless there's some port that you can point back to your machine through the nat, i don't think there is anything you can do
[06:37] <nimper> fwiw i've run memtest86 with no errors
[06:37] <danl> dbernarl_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8632
[06:37] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: it still downloads, right? just not very fast
[06:37] <danl> i only copied some of them
[06:37] <danl> cause it does it for everyfile
[06:37] <anto9us> JimmyPToz, type man hier
[06:37] <zcat[1] > ..afk .. brb
[06:37] <fangorious> nimper: what chipset is your motherboard using?
[06:37] <nimper> nforce4
[06:37] <alex2456> im having trouble running the configure script for this program i want to install because it says im missing libs, so i was wondering if there is some kind of way to use apt-get to install all the required libs for a program in one shot
[06:37] <taylor_> can someone compile a package for me please??....im desperate
[06:37] <nimper> well nforce4 ultra
[06:38] <danl> i am going ot try rebooting
[06:38] <taylor_> http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=42925 someone please ompile it for me?
[06:38] <danl> brb
[06:38] <fangorious> nimper: have you searched ubuntuforums.org or bugzilla.ubuntu.com? (i know they moved from bugzilla to malone, but i can never remember the url for that, and bugzilla redirects i think)
[06:38] <dbernar1_> alex2456: yes, if the program is in a known repository
[06:38] <IXKoDiaKXI> dbernar1_: im back and now i cant get it to give me an IP
[06:38] <nimper> not yet
[06:39] <fangorious> alex2456: if your apt repos have the package you want to install, then apt will resolve all it's dependencies. if you're installing from source, it's possible but it won't be as simple
[06:39] <alex2456> yea im installing it from source
[06:39] <taylor_> http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=42925 someone please compile it for me?
[06:39] <alex2456> becuase i install a lib, and then im missing another
[06:39] <fangorious> alex2456, you could run 'apt-cache search libname' to try and find the dev packages you need for compiling
[06:40] <piggah> 'lo everyone
[06:40] <wumon> Hi, when KDE sound server is enabled, i can't play sound on xmms or other player, how to fix it please? thanks
[06:40] <alex2456> ok il give that a try
[06:40] <alex2456> thanks alot
[06:40] <dbernar1_> 'lo piggah. I love your nick.
[06:40] <piggah> haha, thanks :P
[06:40] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: well, tried removing that security WEP crappy crap?
[06:41] <IXKoDiaKXI> yeah ill do that real quick
[06:41] <alex2456> fangorious: how do you use that
[06:41] <alex2456> do you need to do anything with the libtool
[06:41] <dbernar1_> wumon: you use the artsd?
[06:42] <fangorious> alex2456: nope, if configure says you need libfoo, then run 'apt-cache search libfoo' at a command line to see all packages relevant to libfoo
[06:42] <alex2456> ohhh ok
[06:43] <fangorious> alex2456: for compiling, you'll need the -dev package for each lib
[06:43] <wumon> dbernar1 yes
[06:43] <TiG4> Is there a way to enter the sudo command along with the password all in one line,so that it doesn't ask for "Password:"
[06:43] <TiG4> example:
[06:43] <TiG4> sudo ls -a "password"
[06:43] <TiG4> or something like that
[06:44] <CompBrain> TiG4: you can specify commands that can run with no password in /etc/sudoers
[06:44] <dbernar1_> wumon: in gnome, selecting the output plugin to be esound would fix that. but not sure for kde
[06:44] <alex2456> yea i figured that part out, but what i was wondering is if you can use apt-get to read all the required libs from the libtool
[06:44] <dbernar1_> !xmms
[06:44] <ubotu> methinks xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[06:44] <CompBrain> TiG4: do a man sudo or man sudoers for more
[06:44] <TiG4> CompBrain, but I need it for an application I'm writing so that is erronious
[06:44] <fangorious> alex2456: i'm not aware of such an awesome feature for any dependency resolver
[06:44] <Engla_> TiG4: no, it's not possible
[06:44] <TiG4> CompBrain, I need to do it without user interaction (basically user enters passwd)
[06:45] <taylor_> when the icon of a program looks like diamond it is compiled right?
[06:45] <TiG4> CompBrain, so what would this do: passwd sudo -S XXX
[06:45] <TiG4> ?
[06:45] <Engla_> TiG4: You can't use gksudo in this case either?
[06:45] <TiG4> gksudo?
[06:45] <TiG4> unfamiliar with that
[06:45] <Engla_> it's the box that pops up when you open synaptic
[06:45] <dbernar1_> TiG4: how about kdesu?
[06:45] <fangorious> TiG4: i think that would try to set the password for the user sudo
[06:45] <Engla_> gksudo/kdesu are "sudo in a windwo"
[06:46] <TiG4> fangorious, yeah thats what i thought
[06:46] <Engla_> for gnome/kde
[06:46] <taylor_> when the icon of a program looks like diamond it is compiled right?
[06:46] <dr_willis> taylor_,   you may want to use the 'shell'  and  see whats there.
[06:46] <taylor_> whats a shell
[06:46] <dbernar1_> taylor_: executables have the diamond.
[06:46] <dr_willis> taylor_,  the terminal/command line.
[06:46] <Engla_> taylor_: it is "executable" at least
[06:46] <TiG4> Engla_, what exactly is gksudo?
[06:46] <fangorious> taylor_: Applications->Accessories->Terminal (assuming gnome)
[06:46] <taylor_> in the read me it came with it said dont forget to make it executable
[06:46] <Engla_> TiG4: try "gksudo echo hey". That will run "echo hey" with admin privilegs
[06:47] <taylor_> yea im using gnome
[06:47] <Engla_> TiG4: It will pop up a window asking for password
[06:47] <dr_willis> chmode +x whatevrfile
[06:47] <dr_willis> makes a file executable.
[06:47] <fangorious> chmod
[06:47] <TiG4> lol im somehow already given access, is there a way to "un-sudo" mysef
[06:47] <dr_willis> oops ' chmod' :P
[06:47] <TiG4> myself
[06:47] <dr_willis> lol
[06:47] <dr_willis> darn old-skool naming!
[06:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wu tang clan
[06:47] <CompBrain> TiG4: its bad practice to try and pass a password on the command line, as it can be seen looking at ps -ef
[06:47] <Engla_> TiG4: there is, but it's in the man page. I don't remember :-)
[06:48] <dbernar1_> CanYouHelpMePlz: agreed.
[06:48] <fangorious> ain't nuthin to chmod with
[06:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dbernar1: ;-)
[06:48] <TiG4> CompBrain, do you recommend GKSUDO?
[06:48] <dbernar1_> fangorious: heh
[06:48] <lazyM0m3nt> Emm, What's better -- Reiser Vs EXT3
[06:48] <IXKoDiaKXI> dbernar1_: i took my WEP key off and still nothing now
[06:48] <dr_willis> lazyM0m3nt,  from what i 'hear' in chat rooms - stick with ext3
[06:48] <Engla_> TiG4: what problem do you want to solve. Your solution seems inconventient
[06:48] <Engla_> TiG4: sorry to say it, but why not solve it together
[06:48] <dbernar1_> IXKoDiaKXI: show ifconfig, and /etc/network/interfaces on paste.ubun.....
[06:48] <CompBrain> TiG4: gksudo is graphical sudo essentially, so, its just a gui password prompt instead of a text based one
[06:49] <TiG4> Engla_, I'm writing an application that allows users to change they're splash screen, boot gui, etc.
[06:49] <fangorious> i think reiser is faster in some cases, but ext3 is more stable and has a better journal (as in you will recover better from a crash)
[06:49] <TiG4> Engla_, I didn't find any that I thought were really nice
[06:49] <Engla_> TiG4: You should ask for permissing in a window. Use gksudo. (or kdesu if you're on kde)
[06:49] <Engla_> TiG4: but it sounds nice
[06:49] <TiG4> CompBrain, yes, but it really solves my problem as far as bypassing the shell interface
[06:49] <Engla_> *permission
[06:50] <macsat111> hey installed linux on my mac... but now i want os 9 back... but it wont work. anyone ever done this?
[06:50] <TiG4> Engla_, so gksudo is null in KDE?
[06:50] <Engla_> TiG4: I don't know
[06:50] <lazyM0m3nt> thx
[06:50] <TiG4> Engla_, ok
[06:50] <fangorious> TiG4: no, it's just not installed as part of kde, it is installed as part of gnome
[06:50] <TiG4> Engla_, well esentially I could replace gksudo with kdesu and the same outcome would happen
[06:50] <dbernar1_> macsat111: I am sure someone has done it. try googling.
[06:50] <TiG4> fangorious, same thing
[06:50] <fangorious> TiG4: if you have both installed, you can use either one in either DE
[06:50] <IXKoDiaKXI> dbernar1_: ok its up there again
[06:50] <TiG4> fangorious, well esentially I could replace gksudo with kdesu and the same outcome would happen
[06:51] <fangorious> TiG4: i think so
[06:51] <TiG4> fangorious, I know this may sound wierd, but is there some sort of shell command to determine the current DesktopEnvironment
[06:51] <fangorious> macsat111: did you format the drive, deleting the os 9 partition?
[06:51] <TiG4> KDE/Gnome
[06:51] <taylor_> what do i put after "chmod a+x halo2"?
[06:52] <ubuntu> can somebody help me ? I just installed that alpha 3 and X doesn't start- I get a text login :(
[06:52] <Engla_> taylor_: put after what? how? What do you want to do
[06:52] <fangorious> TiG4: i suppose you could check for a PID for gnome-session to see if gnome is running
[06:52] <taylor_> i mmaking a file an executablew
[06:52] <dr_willis> taylor_,  try running it. ./halo2
[06:52] <taylor_> *executable
[06:52] <TiG4> hmm..
[06:52] <lazyM0m3nt> Why icant see any computer in my network with smb://? But other Windows see my Ubuntu & download files
[06:53] <Engla_> fangorious: or perhaps just check for the gksudo file
[06:53] <TiG4> nice
[06:53] <fangorious> Engla_: yeah, that's probably a lot simpler
[06:53] <TiG4> "locate gksudo"
[06:53] <taylor_> ./halo2: error while loading shared libraries: libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:53] <CompBrain> lazyM0m3nt: Computer browsing is a bit wierd, try smb://COMPUTERNAME
[06:53] <dr_willis> lazyM0m3nt,  windows box's dont have the SP2 firewall enabled do they?
[06:53] <taylor_> what does that mean
[06:53] <ubuntu> how do I get X to start ?
[06:53] <dr_willis> taylor_,  means you dont have all the libaries installed that program needs.
[06:53] <taylor_> ok
[06:53] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: do you have the smb client stuff installed, or just the server?
[06:53] <CompBrain> or SMB://I.P.Addr.es
[06:53] <TiG4> Engla_, however, if the user has both KDE and Gnome installed, wont gksudo be installed anyways
[06:53] <Engla_> TiG4: `which gksudo` is probably cooler
[06:53] <lazyM0m3nt> i can see anyone in windows but not ubuntu
[06:53] <Engla_> TiG4: right
[06:54] <Ralith> I have a keyboard with volume up/down keys that ubuntu found and configured on install. However, they were connected to the "Headphone" channel instead of the "Front" channel; this was tested using alsamixer. How can I either change channels or get it to use both?
[06:54] <TiG4> Engla_, well darn
[06:54] <dbernar1_> ubuntu: what graphic card do you have?
[06:54] <lazyM0m3nt> yes, i have
[06:54] <ubuntu> tnt2
[06:54] <ubuntu> 5.10 works fine
[06:54] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you have what? (it helps to specify who you're replying to :) )
[06:55] <TiG4> Engla_, thanks
[06:55] <TiG4> fangorious, thanks
[06:55] <TiG4> CompBrain, thanks
[06:55] <lazyM0m3nt> i have client
[06:55] <macsat111> hey installed linux on my mac... but now i want os 9 back... but it wont work. anyone ever done this?
[06:55] <piggah> well i think im back for good this time :P
[06:55] <dbernar1_> ight
[06:55] <dbernar1_> n
[06:56] <ubuntu> macsat111, repartition
[06:56] <zcat[1] > why on EARTH would you want os9 back?!!
[06:56] <dr_willis> macsat111,  i had to boot to linux, and use its fdisk tools and delete all the partitions. (assuming you want to get RID of linux)
[06:56] <ubuntu> macsat111, with disk utility or what's its name
[06:56] <ubuntu> HELP ! X won't start !
[06:56] <macsat111> because linux sucks on a 64mb machine... compared to os9
[06:56] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: if specifying a specific computer name or IP address in the location bar doesn't help, try running 'smbclient -I x.x.x.x -L' in a terminal
[06:57] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me with my wireless problem.. i can find my router using iwlist wlan0 scan but i cant connect to anything
[06:57] <dr_willis> 64mb :P
[06:57] <dr_willis> macsat111,  if you lived  in Indiana  - id give ya a good deal on my imacDV.
[06:57] <zcat[1] > but yeah.. boot from the install CD (hold C while it boots) repartition and run the installer again. Where were you getting stuck?
[06:57] <Engla_> macsat111: do you want to erase everything and install os9, or just reboot to os9?
[06:57] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: idont know anyone's IP
[06:58] <taylor_> anyone know where to get "libpangocairo-1.0.so.0"
[06:58] <zcat[1] > RAM is cheap.. my G3 runs sweet on 192M ..
[06:58] <fangorious> on a command line, what happens if you run 'ping windows_machine_name'?
[06:58] <ubuntu> where's the ubuntu bugzilla ?
[06:58] <Ralith> I have a keyboard with volume up/down keys that ubuntu found and configured on install. However, they were connected to the "Headphone" channel instead of the "Front" channel; this was tested using alsamixer. How can I change the channel it controls?
[06:58] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help?
[06:58] <Witigonen> Hey all.  I'm trying to connect my phone via USB and there are all these references to /dev/ttyACM0, but that's not anywhere on my system.  What steps do I take to figure out what's going on?
[06:59] <trooper00> taylor: when I am searching for a package, i find dpkg -l <search pattern> .. helps me a lot.. try dpkg -l libpa* and see what it lists ;)
[06:59] <zcat[1] > s/"RAM is cheap/you can find 128M chips in dumpsters behind computer shops"/
[06:59] <ubuntu> where's the ubuntu bugzilla ? ...
[06:59] <Ralith> As far as I can tell nothing actually uses the headphone channel
[06:59] <Ralith> ubuntu, try bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[06:59] <ubuntu> k
[06:59] <fangorious> ubuntu: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:59] <Ralith> er
[06:59] <Ralith> right
[06:59] <Ralith> com.
[07:00] <Engla_> taylor_: auto-apt has a search function. It says that usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0  libs/libpango1.0-0
[07:00] <zcat[1] > ppl upgrade to 1024M and throw their old 128M chips away, seriously. That's how I got all my ram for the last 10 years..
[07:00] <fangorious> ubuntu: then click on "Malone"
[07:00] <Engla_> taylor_: so libpango it is
[07:00] <ubuntu> fangorious, what's that ?
[07:00] <Witigonen> When I dmesg | grep acm I see that the acm usb driver is loaded.
[07:00] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: any luck with the ping command?
[07:00] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: no
[07:00] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: ping: unknown host MICROSOF-358740
[07:00] <Witigonen> It says that ttyACM0: USB ACM device is there, but it's not in /dev.
[07:01] <taylor_> so what do i "sudo apt get it"
[07:01] <fangorious> ubuntu: point a browser to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com, on that page is a link titled "Malone" which is the site they moevd to, which i fogert the url of
[07:01] <ubuntu> tks
[07:01] <Engla_> zcat[1] : true about the ram. Recently found 196M in my dorm's storage room
[07:01] <Engla_> taylor_: libpango, it seems
[07:01] <Engla_> taylor_: but that's probably already installed
[07:01] <taylor_> and i need libangocairo
[07:02] <taylor_> *libpangcairo
[07:02] <Engla_> taylor_: but the file libpangocairo is in the package libpango
[07:02] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: windows uses a protocol called netbios to resolve hostnames. but linux doesn't speak it out of the box. you can run 'ipconfig' in a command window on windows to find it's ip address, and add it to /etc/hosts (single line like '1.2.3.4 hostname')
[07:02] <Engla_> taylor_: according to auto-apt, which is a program that does this kind of suff (finds packages for files)
[07:02] <zcat[1] > I can't wait until Vista gets released. I'm gonna score so much free hardware when ppl upgrade to meet the minumum specs fot that!!
[07:03] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: ok it will try
[07:03] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: note that if the windows machine is on dhcp, and it's address changes, you will have to change the line for it in /etc/hosts
[07:04] <Ralith> or madwifi
[07:04] <Ralith> er
[07:04] <Ralith> wrong window.
[07:04] <WhyvasLT> DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN ASSHOLE
[07:04] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: do i change it everytime i start Ubuntu?
[07:04] <Ralith> :P
[07:04] <fangorious> lol
[07:04] <Ralith> on that note...
[07:04] <Ralith> does anyone have any clue how to set up ndiswrapper or madwifi?
[07:05] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you would change it every time the windows machine gets a new ip address (possibly ever time it restarts, but not necessarily)
[07:05] <Protocol1> Ralith: you looking for a wifi monitor?
[07:05] <WhyvasLT> Ralith, wiki does
[07:05] <zcat[1] > do your part for linux hardware support; throw your winshit card away and get something that's supported
[07:05] <heatxsink> where can I find the a sources.list for ubuntu?
[07:05] <Ralith> Protocol1, no, driver :P
[07:05] <Protocol1> oh
[07:05] <Ralith> WhyvasLT, right, sorry, should've looked there first.
[07:05] <Protocol1> i see
[07:05] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: there's a better way that adds netbios name resolution to linux, but i don't know what it is off the top of my head, i'm trying to find the right package name
[07:06] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: thx ^^
[07:06] <zcat[1] > I'm just bitter 'cos I could never get ndiswrapper to work
[07:06] <Ralith> :P
[07:06] <Ralith> it's an onboard.
[07:07] <zcat[1] > but seriously the best thing you can do longterm is boycott windows-only hardware.
[07:07] <Ralith> yeh
[07:07] <Ralith> not that that leaves you with much :P
[07:07] <zcat[1] > I got a nice rt2400 card from SMC
[07:07] <Ralith> agreed.
[07:07] <zcat[1] > then some cunt stole my laptop.
[07:08] <Ralith> :P
[07:08] <trooper00> fangorious: nmblookup .. part of the samba package
[07:08] <heatxsink> where can I find a sources.list for ubuntu?
[07:08] <lazyM0m3nt> trooper00: itry it but it dosent work
[07:09] <Engla_> heatxsink: google it! :-). There are a couple on the wiki, too
[07:09] <heatxsink> i'm on the wiki
[07:09] <heatxsink> and I searched for sources.list
[07:09] <heatxsink> nm
[07:09] <Engla_> hawken: you could also just add some sources with synaptic if you want the basic main restricted universe multiverse repos
[07:09] <killapop> heatxsink, try this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:10] <Engla_> there it is
[07:10] <fangorious> trooper00: no, it's a nss lib, so you can put 'wins' in /etc/nsswitch.conf and globally resolve windows machines by name
[07:10] <wumon> i can;t skin my xmms no skin work this is because i own a powerpc?
[07:10] <heatxsink> killapop:  but does this support dapper?
[07:10] <Engla_> wumon: sounds very improbable
[07:11] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Is that work?
[07:11] <killapop> heatxsink nope.. just breezy and some warty
[07:11] <trooper00> fangorious lazyM0m3nt: its certain that it isn't something stupid, like lack of connectivity.. if the ip isn't even known i don't see how that could be certain
[07:11] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: i used to use it all the time back on red hat and fedora, but i don't think i ever found it on ubuntu
[07:12] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: but trooper00 has a good point about nmblookup, try running 'nmblookup MICROSOF-358740'
[07:13] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: i try it with PIMONNS and this
[07:13] <lazyM0m3nt> querying PIMONNS on 192.168.182.255
[07:13] <lazyM0m3nt> name_query failed to find name PIMONNS
[07:13] <ltf> how do i access a share from one ubuntu box to the other?
[07:13] <ltf> i keep getting "access denied"
[07:13] <ltf> session setup failed
[07:14] <lazyM0m3nt> i sometimes too
[07:14] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt:  pimonns is up and connected to the network?
[07:14] <lazyM0m3nt> yes
[07:14] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: xp, with sp2?
[07:14] <lazyM0m3nt> yes, i see from EtherApe
[07:15] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: ok, the lib I'm thinking of is is part of winbind, but you probably don't want to run winbind, so do this
[07:15] <fangorious> sudo apt-get install winbind
[07:15] <fangorious> sudo /etc/init.d/winbind stop
[07:15] <fangorious> sudo update-rc.d -r winbind remove
[07:16] <lazyM0m3nt> ok, it is installing
[07:16] <fangorious> after that, run 'sudo gedit /etc/nsswitch.conf' and put 'wins' at the end of the hosts line
[07:17] <geoffj_> Hi, I'm trying to get an ndiswrapper driver but ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net is returning "403 Forbidden" :( Does everyone else get this problem and know if it is just temporary?
[07:17] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: actually, put it between files and dns, so the line reads "hosts:          files wins dns"
[07:18] <dr_willis> !w32codec
[07:18] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:18] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: assuming no firewall problems blocking netbios packets on either end, you should then be able to do ping a windows machine by hostname, and the address will be resolved automatically
[07:18] <ifwntrends> geoffj_: site loads for me
[07:18] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: update-rc.d: error: unknown option
[07:19] <zcat[1] > why not apt-get ndiswrapper ?
[07:19] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: 'sudo update-rc.d'
[07:19] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, Hmm can you give me the url you are using
[07:19] <lazyM0m3nt> it show mw USAGE
[07:19] <ltf> mount //hostname/share /mnt/something -t smbfs
[07:19] <fangorious>  sudo update-rc.d -r winbind remove
[07:20] <ifwntrends> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/  ...ubuntu comes with ndiswrapper, not the newest version though
[07:20] <ltf> that seems to be right, but the password i put on the server isn't working on the client
[07:20] <geoffj_> zcat[1] , it's the windoze drive I need
[07:20] <ltf> and i have NO idea why
[07:20] <fangorious> ltf: it could be an issue with the windows machine expecting an encrypted password, and samba sending it plaintext.
[07:20] <zcat[1] > you need to get the windows driver from your windows partiton, usually.. I wouldn't have expected sf.net to host binary-only drivers for windows.
[07:21] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: update-rc.d: error: unknown option again
[07:21] <ltf> fangorious, there's not windows machine, just two ubuntu machines
[07:21] <fangorious> sorry, -f
[07:21] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, that is the url I'm using any clues why I would get forbidden?
[07:21] <fangorious> ltf, then why are you using smb? why not nfs?
[07:21] <geoffj_> zcat[1] , Not according to the ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:21] <ltf> i don't know how to use nfs
[07:22] <fangorious> ltf: 'man /etc/exports' to see how to configure a share
[07:22] <zcat[1] > btw; why does wiki.ubuntu.com have an invalid SSL cert?
[07:22] <ltf> ok
[07:22] <fangorious> ltf: then 'sudo /etc/init.d/nfs restart to have nfsd read it and share them
[07:23] <fangorious> ltf: then on the client, 'mount host:/path/to/share /mnt/point -t nfs' should mount it
[07:23] <ifwntrends> geoffj_: the link you posted is what i used to get mine working just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils, and get the ndiswrapper gtk package they list and your driver from the list
[07:23] <ltf> cool
[07:24] <fangorious> ltf: people smarter than me can point you to amd or autofs so you can run 'ls /net/server' to see all nfs shares on 'server'
[07:24] <trooper00> zcat[1] : it does inspire confidence, doesn't it
[07:24] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, It is the windoze driver I need for the chipset id: 14e4:4320
[07:24] <shekhar> help! i have no sound!
[07:24] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : because the ubuntu web admins are too busy :P
[07:25] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, oh I'll try that
[07:25] <zcat[1] > yeah, I would have expected better considering the sabdfl made most of his money from issuing SLL certs..
[07:25] <zcat[1] > SSL rather
[07:25] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: ping: unknown host PIMONNS
[07:25] <ifwntrends> geoffj_: try this ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_1500/drivers/80211g.zip
[07:25] <ifwntrends> same drivers as me
[07:26] <geoffj_> ifwntrends, thanks
[07:26] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: well, at this point i'll have to guess there's a firewall in your way
[07:27] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Ok, i can ping PIMONNS
[07:27] <yiannis> exit
[07:27] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: now try pointing nautilus to smb://pimonns/
[07:28] <zcat[1] > SMB is horrible.. after getting everything sorted out, it can still refuse to work for ages until the master-browser gets around to updating things.. and then it suddently works.
[07:28] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Ok, i can use that! thx
[07:28] <zcat[1] > windows in general is horrible, actually.. SP2 makes life intersting.
[07:28] <fangorious> ltf: actually, you can find a gui to configure shares at System->Administration->Shared Folders
[07:29] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: np, glad i finally tracked down the libnss-wins package on ubuntu
[07:29] <ltf> i saw the gui
[07:29] <ltf> but on the client side i was having the problems
[07:29] <ltf> it was prompting me for a password
[07:29] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: But in ubuntu ... Places->Network Server -> Windows Network =  items
[07:29] <zcat[1] > spent most of friday trying to sort out some braindamaged XP firewall. In the end I gave up on the paid-for product and just went with SP2's firewall and AVG!
[07:29] <ltf> which i set using smbpassword
[07:29] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: But in ubuntu ... Places->Network Server -> Windows Network =  0 items
[07:30] <zcat[1] > but enough ranting :)
[07:30] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: it ask my password..
[07:30] <ltf> but it didn't matter
[07:30] <zcat[1] > lazyM0m3nt: press enter ?
[07:30] <fangorious> ltf: yeah, nfs uses hostnames to authenticate the share, the file ownership and permissions (so you may want to double check that UIDs are the same on each machine)
[07:30] <lazyM0m3nt> i show me 0 items
[07:30] <zcat[1] > by default windows uses RMS's old password..
[07:31] <lazyM0m3nt> zcat[1] : it ask me to enter password for my machine!!!
[07:33] <Engla_> lazyM0m3nt: that's the practice, to let you know when you are changing vital system settings
[07:33] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: does the same username exist on both the client and the server?
[07:33] <Engla_> (and files)
[07:33] <Protocol1> this is fun....restoring a friends laptop
[07:33] <lazyM0m3nt> yes
[07:34] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you can browse windows -> linux, but not linux -> windows?
[07:35] <lazyM0m3nt> i can browse by use smb://computer_name but i dont see anyone in Windows Network (ubuntu)
[07:35] <elkbuntu> if you have a firewall, make sure you open the port to 192.168
[07:35] <elkbuntu> ports*
[07:35] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: you don't get any workgroup/domain names listed in the network browser?
[07:35] <lazyM0m3nt> yes!
[07:36] <elkbuntu> you will see the workgroups, without opening the ports, but not the machines within it
[07:36] <fangorious> yes you don't?
[07:37] <lazyM0m3nt> i dont see any workgroup ... i have 3 workgrup on my network (i know)
[07:37] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: the most likely culprit is firewalls on the windows machines
[07:37] <lazyM0m3nt> But i see in my windowsXP
[07:38] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: are they XP with SP2?
[07:38] <lazyM0m3nt> yes, with SP2
[07:38] <ltf> blah
[07:38] <ltf> now im getting portmapper errors
[07:38] <fangorious> fangorious: can you try disabling the firewall on one of them and see if that makes it browseable to linux?
[07:38] <ltf> i think smb would have worked just as well
[07:38] <ltf> ....if i could have figured out what that passwd problem was
[07:39] <ltf> this is just a one time thing
[07:39] <fangorious> ltf: did you check the log file?
[07:39] <ltf> AHHHH
[07:39] <ltf> IT WAS NO PASSWORD
[07:39] <ltf> lol
[07:39] <ltf> im ok now
[07:39] <ltf> :p
[07:39] <ltf> ;)
[07:39] <fangorious> heh
[07:39] <lazyM0m3nt> Emm
[07:40] <Engla_> hey. Someone say that above
[07:40] <Engla_> *said
[07:40] <lazyM0m3nt> PIMONNS has no firewall
[07:40] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: hm, run 'sudo iptables -L' on the linux box
[07:41] <elkbuntu> lazyM0m3nt, install firestarter if you need a gui firewall thing
[07:41] <lazyM0m3nt> i stop firewall with firestarter already
[07:41] <elkbuntu> why?
[07:41] <zcat[1] > anyone played with guarddog? I couldn't follow it..
[07:41] <lazyM0m3nt> to ping
[07:42] <elkbuntu> restart firestarter, and allow the smb ports through it
[07:42] <lazyM0m3nt> when 'sudo iptables -L'
[07:42] <lazyM0m3nt> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[07:42] <lazyM0m3nt> target     prot opt source               destination
[07:42] <lazyM0m3nt> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[07:42] <lazyM0m3nt> target     prot opt source               destination
[07:42] <lazyM0m3nt> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[07:42] <lazyM0m3nt> target     prot opt source               destination
[07:42] <fangorious> lazyM0m3nt: ok, that means no firewall
[07:43] <elkbuntu> zcat[1] , nope but firestarter is good
[07:45] <elkbuntu> zcat[1] ,  nice gtk interface, behaves and does what you tell it, and a nice little icon in the taskbar that goes red when there's an event :)
[07:45] <zcat[1] > behind cisco anyhow.. don't really need a host firewall :)
[07:45] <zcat[1] > but I'll have a play with it sometime.
[07:45] <elkbuntu> zcat[1] , i get events even though i have a router firewall
[07:46] <zcat[1] > I want to use my other DSL router in bridge mode and have the linux box do firewall and NAT ..
[07:46] <fangorious> well, it's past my bedtime. good luck lazyM0m3nt
[07:46] <elkbuntu> zcat[1] , make sure you get one that doesnt block itself when you try view localhost *mutter*
[07:46] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Thanks alot
[07:46] <elkbuntu> well localhost via external dns
[07:46] <lazyM0m3nt> fangorious: Good Night
[07:47] <zcat[1] > I have a static DNS so I can alias eth0:1 to it..
[07:47] <zcat[1] > err static IP rather
[07:47] <allan__> hello,
[07:47] <bwlang> anybody know if there is a free software version of something like gotomeeting, or webex - sort of like a 1-to-many vnc
[07:47] <lazyM0m3nt> how can i list any computer on my network?
[07:47] <elkbuntu> i think it's called gnome meeting ?
[07:47] <elkbuntu> bwlang
[07:47] <allan__> when I try to run winetools in a terminal window I have this error : Drive C: is /home/allan/.wine/drive_c
[07:47] <allan__> Wine 20040813
[07:47] <allan__> wine is executed as wine
[07:47] <allan__> Parameters are --noexit
[07:47] <allan__> Browser is /usr/bin/firefox.
[07:47] <allan__> WINEVER is "20040813".
[07:47] <allan__> /usr/local/bin/wt: line 3291: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file or directory
[07:48] <lazyM0m3nt> i dont see anyone on my network
[07:48] <allan__> can anybody know what's the problem?
[07:48] <elkbuntu> lazyM0m3nt, open synaptic, and type in samba, then list off which packages you have installed
[07:48] <Ralith> I'm trying to get ndiswrapper to work with an Atheros AR5BMB5 chipset. I've found something in the list with the same pci id, downloaded the windows drivers, extracted them, and pointed ndiswrapper at them. I quote ndiswrapper: net5211 driver present, hardware present
[07:48] <Ralith> . However, no new interfaces are apparent.
[07:48] <bwlang> elkbuntu: i'll look into it - thanks
[07:48] <lazyM0m3nt> ok
[07:49] <Ralith> checkd with iwconfig and ifconfig
[07:49] <Ralith> checked*
[07:49] <Ralith> and the kernel module /is/ loaded
[07:49] <Ralith> suggestions?
[07:51] <elkbuntu> lazyM0m3nt, you should at least have: samba, samba-common, smbclient and smbfs
[07:51] <lazyM0m3nt> elkbuntu: yes, i have
[07:51] <rewt_> omg....my sound ceased to exist! what do i do???????
[07:52] <rewt_> ive rebooted plenty of times
[07:52] <rewt_> still nothing
[07:52] <elkbuntu> lazyM0m3nt, libsmbclient too i hope
[07:52] <_root_> can anybody give me some information about udev .. please come in private chat
[07:53] <lazyM0m3nt> elkbuntu: and yes, i have
[07:53] <rewt_> can anyone help me with my sound?
[07:53] <Ralith> rewt_, check that none of your channels are muted or turned down.
[07:54] <rewt_> in volume monitor?
[07:54] <rewt_> i did
[07:54] <elkbuntu> lazyM0m3nt,  and you have firestarter going with allow service to Samba(SMB) 137-139 445 to 192.168
[07:54] <_suma> hey guys... when i double click on a torret file, ubuntu tries to open it with gedit... does anyone know how i can re-associate torrent files with bittorrent application?
[07:55] <rewt_> i get the error Cannot Connect to sound daemon. Please run 'esd' at a command prompt.
[07:55] <lazyM0m3nt> elkbuntu: how to set?
[07:56] <elkbuntu> go to the tab called 'policies'
[07:56] <elkbuntu> or policy
[07:56] <lazyM0m3nt> elkbuntu: but i stop my firewall already
[07:56] <elkbuntu> unstop it
[07:56] <elkbuntu> restart it whatever
[07:56] <lazyM0m3nt> ok
[07:56] <Ralith> I've also got a problem with sound. Ubuntu has bound my volume keys correctly for the most part, but they're mapped to the headphone channel instead of PCM. How can I fix this?
[07:57] <elkbuntu> then click on the policy tab, click in the bottom white box click the big plus sign that has 'add rule' under it and tlel me when you get that far
[07:57] <rewt_> cananyone help?
[07:57] <Lemontree> hey all
[07:58] <Lemontree> is anyone here, which use ubuntu on ppc ?
[07:58] <elkbuntu> rewt_ did you open terminal, type esd and then hit enter?
[07:58] <rewt_> yes
[07:58] <elkbuntu> and whathappened?
[07:58] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:~$ esd
[07:58] <rewt_> ALSA lib confmisc.c:560:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
[07:58] <rewt_> ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
[07:58] <rewt_> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
[07:58] <rewt_> ALSA lib confmisc.c:955:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
[07:58] <rewt_> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
[07:58] <rewt_> ALSA lib conf.c:3948:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
[07:58] <rewt_> ALSA lib pcm.c:2090:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[07:58] <Madpilot> rewt_: do NOT paste here. thanks.
[07:59] <rewt_> sry
[07:59] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:59] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:59] <frogzoo> rewt_: nice spam, yum yum
[07:59] <rewt_> lol wasnt on purpose
[07:59] <Lemontree> hmm , so i guess no one use ubuntu on ppc ?
[08:00] <elkbuntu> now more info so people can help: which ubuntu are you running?
[08:00] <Ralith> not here and paying attention, apparently
[08:00] <rewt_> breezy
[08:00] <lazyM0m3nt> firestarter say it cant start firewall network
[08:00] <cswbww> i'm newbie in ubuntu, anyone can suggest a good system monitoring method? as in the system tray.
[08:00] <rewt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8639
[08:00] <frogzoo> rewt_: have you checked lspci    or /var/log/messages to check the kernel finds your sound card ?
[08:00] <elkbuntu> lazyM0m3nt, o.O did it ask you for the password
[08:00] <Madpilot> cswbww: Applications menu --> System Tools --> System Monitor
[08:01] <rewt_> how do i get to /var/log/messages? i just typed it in but it said not found
[08:01] <rewt_> wait found it lol
[08:01] <rewt_> id10t
[08:02] <frogzoo> rewt_: it's there 4 shur
[08:02] <lazyM0m3nt> elkbuntu: it say fail to start firewall
[08:02] <cswbww> thanks Madpilot, but i want a way permanently standing in the system tray:)
[08:02] <rewt_> i dunno where to look in there for anything
[08:02] <elkbuntu> why on earth would it.. does it not even ask you for the password?
[08:02] <elkbuntu> before telling you it cannot start?
[08:02] <lazyM0m3nt> no
[08:02] <frogzoo> rewt_: grep -i   for your sound card brand eg intel
[08:03] <Madpilot> cswbww: there's a little system monitor applet - just a second, I'll try and remember how I installed it
[08:03] <rewt_> frog what?
[08:04] <Madpilot> cswbww: right-click on one of your task bars - top or bottom of the desktop - select "Add To Panel"
[08:04] <frogzoo> rewt_: 'grep -i {sound card brand} /var/log/messages'
[08:04] <lazyM0m3nt> so what next
[08:04] <Madpilot> cswbww: then scroll down to the 'System & hardware' area and choose "System Monitor"
[08:05] <frogzoo> rewt_: also try
[08:05] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:~$ grep -i {intel} /var/log/messages  i just did that and nothing appeared?
[08:05] <rewt_> just went to the next line
[08:05] <elkbuntu> madpilot you gotta do the add application thing first
[08:05] <frogzoo> rewt_: 'lspci | grep -i {sound card brand}'
[08:05] <elkbuntu> lazyM0m3nt, try restarting the computer? if not, reinstall firestarter
[08:05] <Madpilot> elkbuntu: don't think so - this is just a Gnome panel applet
[08:05] <lazyM0m3nt> EMm
[08:05] <elkbuntu> madpilot oh, not a desklet?
[08:05] <cswbww> thank you so much:) Madpilot, well, i think you may misunderstand my meaning. I just want a way running always behind the scene. I just remember the name for GKrellM, anyone tried it under breezy?
[08:06] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep -i {intel}
[08:06] <rewt_>  and nothing happened there either
[08:06] <lazyM0m3nt> can i dont use firewall
[08:06] <Madpilot> elkbuntu: not one of the gdesklet things, nope
[08:06] <elkbuntu> cswbww, you can open a terminal in a vacant desktop and just run 'top'
[08:06] <frogzoo> rewt_: try without the {}
[08:06] <Madpilot> cswbww: click on the applet, it'll pop up the full System Monitor
[08:06] <rewt_> nothing
[08:06] <rewt_> i think it's intel
[08:06] <rewt_> >.<
[08:06] <frogzoo> rewt_: ie 'grep -i intel /var/log/messages'   && sudo lspci | grep -i intel
[08:07] <cswbww> thanks all you guys, elkbuntu and Madpilot! I got it
[08:07] <lazyM0m3nt> Can i use Ubuntu w/o starting Firewall
[08:07] <Madpilot> cswbww: and right-click on it, select "Preferences" and you can choose which graphics you want running on it - I have CPU, RAM, & network activity on mine
[08:07] <frogzoo> lazyM0m3nt: unquestionably
[08:07] <elkbuntu> you should never have a non-firewalled machine on the internet, lazyM0m3nt
[08:08] <frogzoo> lazyM0m3nt: best way is to install 'bum'  & disable the firestarter boot script
[08:08] <kryptoz> hey
[08:08] <lazyM0m3nt> What's bum?
[08:08] <kryptoz> is there a way to partition my hdb1 into two without loosing data ?
[08:08] <frogzoo> lazyM0m3nt: bum = boot up manager
[08:08] <kryptoz> does parted does the job ?
[08:09] <cswbww> :) it works:)
[08:09] <lazyM0m3nt> ^^ i disable firestarter script already
[08:09] <frogzoo> kryptoz: gparted is reputed to do the job - but me personally, I never trust my data to repartitioners 'cos I'm paranoid
[08:09] <kryptoz> :)
[08:09] <kryptoz> my data= lots of songs and a few documents
[08:09] <kryptoz> i will take backup of documents then
[08:09] <kryptoz> thanx :)
[08:10] <frogzoo> lazyM0m3nt: 'sudo iptables -L'       if there's no rules shown, you have no firewall
[08:10] <Madpilot> kryptoz: burn lots of cds or dvds for backup first :P
[08:10] <rewt_> how do i find out my sound card
[08:10] <kryptoz> yup
[08:10] <rewt_> every site i go to doesnt list it
[08:10] <kryptoz> :)
[08:10] <amphi> rewt_: lspci might show it to you
[08:10] <rewt_> i tried looking i get confused
[08:10] <rewt_> ill post it h/o
[08:11] <amphi> rewt_: try lspci | grep -i audio
[08:11] <frogzoo> rewt_: (me's checking google...)
[08:11] <rewt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8640
[08:12] <amphi> rewt_: if you'd done what I said, you would have seen "011  0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4370 (rev 02)"
[08:12] <rewt_> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4370 (rev 02)
[08:12] <rewt_> found it
[08:12] <rewt_> but a little too late -.-
[08:12] <lazyM0m3nt> frogzoo,elkbuntu : Everything go well but i DONt see any Workgroup on my network
[08:13] <amphi> rewt_: not that I have any idea what that is ;)
[08:13] <elkbuntu> well i dont know lazyM0m3nt, maybe try a forum post?
[08:13] <lazyM0m3nt> ^^
[08:13] <amphi> rewt_: if ubuntu had alsaconf, you could try that
[08:13] <rewt_> -.-
[08:13] <frogzoo> can someone with apt-files installed please tell rewt_which pkg he needs for alsaconf   ?
[08:13] <elkbuntu> i've had no trouble with network with either breezy or dapper
[08:13] <amphi> rewt_: but it doesn't, for some reason I am yet to discover
[08:13] <lazyM0m3nt> ^_^ i cant use ENG well
[08:14] <amphi> frogzoo: normally (well, in debian ;) it's in alsa-utils
[08:15] <frogzoo> amphi: I think not - I have that pkg, but no alsaconf :-(
[08:15] <nick01> anybody else getting a gksudo (No such file or directory) error ?
[08:15] <nick01> in alpha 3
[08:16] <amphi> frogzoo: I searched for aslaconf on packages.ubuntu.com to no avail
[08:16] <rewt_> yea so where do i go from here?
[08:16] <amphi> frogzoo: it's in the debian stable alsa-utils package
[08:17] <frogzoo> rewt_: best bet is that someone has already solved the problem - google for those strings from /var/log/messages & you'll probly get a pointer in the right direction
[08:17] <rewt_> i did for 2 hours
[08:17] <rewt_> thats hwy i came here
[08:17] <frogzoo> rewt_: however if we can find how to get alsaconf installed, that's probly easiest
[08:17] <rewt_> i even had a friend helping
[08:17] <amphi> alsaconf is a script apparently written by a suse dev
[08:18] <frogzoo> rewt_: I'm running apt-file update - but it takes a little while
[08:19] <hd420> this is very odd
[08:19] <rewt_> if i go in terminal
[08:19] <hd420>  2005-06-29 someone's complaining about my problem
[08:19] <rewt_> and keep pushin left my speakers beep
[08:20] <rewt_> but they play no other sound than that
[08:20] <rewt_> :(
[08:20] <amphi> rewt_: do lsmod | grep '^snd' | wc -l
[08:20] <Madpilot> rewt_: you sure that's your actual speakers? it's more likely the little system speaker inside your computer's tower
[08:21] <amphi> rewt_: that command should give you a number
[08:21] <frogzoo> rewt_: 'sudo apt-get install libasound2' 4 starters - see if that helps...
[08:22] <amphi> rewt_: is the number > 0 ? ;)
[08:22] <rewt_> it gave me the number 0
[08:22] <amphi> ah
[08:23] <frogzoo> rewt_: ok, you don't need that library - you need a driver
[08:23] <rewt_> ok
[08:24] <hd420> mod_jk2 appears to be deprecated and apt seems to want to force me to install mod_jk2 with apache2, the jakarta website seems to suggest that mod_jk works with apache2. How do I tell apt-get that apache2 provides apache?
[08:24] <rewt_> frogzoo what driver and where abouts will i find this driver? there are so many -.-
[08:25] <frogzoo> rewt_:  is this 386 or a64?
[08:25] <michaelfavia> ati driver support in dapper flight 3? mine bugging out
[08:25] <rewt_> 64
[08:26] <michaelfavia> or is this modular x fallout still?
[08:27] <jtc126> hi
[08:28] <redblade> Hi.
[08:28] <redblade> I'm looking for a BASIC compiler
[08:29] <hd420> I'm looking to get this bloody thing working and it's not doing so :(
[08:30] <rewt_> so ur sure i just need a driver?
[08:30] <rewt_> my soundwas working fine earlier today
[08:30] <frogzoo> rewt_: ok, it looks like it's definately doable, though perhaps messier than you were expecting: peeps have managed to get it working though: http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/msi_s270_linux.html
[08:30] <rewt_> dunno why it would have crashed
[08:30] <redblade> BASIC compiler?
[08:31] <Ralith> Can someone give me a hand finding windows Atheros drivers for us with ndiswrapper?
[08:31] <redblade> or if possible, something that works in a similar way to Visual basic?
[08:31] <batman> Ralith: google the manufacturer :P
[08:32] <lazyM0m3nt> fragzoo: when i open places->network server
[08:32] <lazyM0m3nt> frogzoo: why it say 'You must login to access noom@192.168.182.79 DOMAIN ROBOT'
[08:32] <Ralith> batman, no luck
[08:32] <Ralith> batman, Atheros lacks a download section and Acer, the makers of this laptop, lacks driver downloads.
[08:33] <batman> Ralith: what model number of acer? i have the same brand
[08:33] <Ralith> AR5BMB5
[08:33] <rewt_> im confused by this?
[08:33] <lazyM0m3nt> what should i do
[08:33] <rewt_> my sound was working perfectly fine earlier today
[08:33] <rewt_> i was playing music etc
[08:34] <rewt_> then it just stopped
[08:34] <frogzoo> rewt_: try 'sudo modprobe snd_atiixp'
[08:34] <Nightshade> is there a plugin for xmms that will let it play mms:// wma streams?
[08:34] <hd420> How do I get mod_jk2 working on breezy?
[08:34] <ph1qt10n> How do i mount a .iso or .bin file in ubuntu and browse the contents? is there a program or can i do it via the terminal?
[08:34] <rewt_> :-D
[08:35] <rewt_> it found as new audio device!
[08:35] <Ralith> batman, nevermind, found my driver CD :D
[08:35] <rewt_> now to see if it works
[08:35] <rewt_> ur a damn genious!
[08:35] <Nightshade> ph1qt10n: mount -v myfile.iso /mnt/myiso
[08:36] <rewt_> than k the lord!
[08:36] <frogzoo> rewt_: if you're trying to play from multiple sources, you might like to try esd instead of alsa
[08:36] <frogzoo> !esd
[08:36] <Nightshade> or some sheit like that
[08:36] <rikai> !iso
[08:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[08:36] <rikai> beh
[08:36] <rikai> !mountiso
[08:36] <ubotu> To mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[08:36] <Ralith> frogzoo, you're experienced with the sound systems?
[08:36] <rewt_> thanks a bunch for your help amhi
[08:36] <rikai> ph1qt10n, see above.
[08:36] <frogzoo> Ralith: nope - just know how to probe a driver's'all
[08:36] <Ralith> :P
[08:37] <ph1qt10n> Nightshade: thanks
[08:37] <frogzoo> !esd
[08:37] <rewt_> okay
[08:37] <rewt_> so now
[08:37] <frogzoo> !tell rewt_about esd
[08:37] <ph1qt10n> Nightshade: do i need to create the folder, or does the command create it itself?
[08:37] <rewt_> in my Volume control
[08:37] <rewt_> I get ...The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[08:37] <rewt_> You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu.
[08:37] <batman> hey does anyone know about file permissions copying windows files to linux partition i tried chown but didn't work o.O
[08:37] <rikai> ph1qt10n, Nightshade's command is incorrect.
[08:37] <frogzoo> rewt_: the problem is that alsa only plays from one source at a time, and conflicts can mess things up
[08:37] <Ralith> batman, sure
[08:37] <rikai> ph1qt10n, its this: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[08:38] <rewt_> okay
[08:38] <rikai> ph1qt10n, and you have oro make the dir.
[08:38] <Ralith> batman, first ls -l the file and look at the first column
[08:38] <rikai> ph1qt10n, i suggest /mnt/iso ;)
[08:38] <damnhil> skype is bad in linux with sound
[08:38] <rewt_> so like my volume buttons used to work on my computer and they dont turn up volume at all
[08:38] <frogzoo> batman: new files will have modes set to whatever your umask is
[08:38] <rikai> damnhil, thats skype's fault, not ubuntu's.
[08:38] <Ralith> should be a bunch of ----s with r, w, and/or x interspersed
[08:38] <ph1qt10n> rikai: thanks alot bro
[08:38] <Mr_Smiley> hi
[08:38] <frogzoo> batman: however chmod will always work, provided you have write perm to the dir
[08:39] <damnhil> rikai: I know . that's so annoying. I hope google voice talk can exist in Linux. I heard that the voice talk uses open standards.
[08:39] <rikai> ph1qt10n, no ptoblem.
[08:39] <batman> at the moment i have my user group set to root
[08:39] <rikai> damnhil, it's being worked on being added to gaim.
[08:39] <frogzoo> batman: nooooo...... :p
[08:39] <rewt_> So how exactly would I get my buttons working again?
[08:39] <damnhil> rikai: how did you know that?
[08:40] <Ralith> damnhil, news posts.
[08:40] <rikai> damnhil, because the gaim folks have announced that?
[08:40] <rikai> damnhil, and i hang out in the gaim irc channel
[08:40] <Ralith> anyone here know anything about ndiswrapper?
[08:40] <rikai> !ndiswrapper
[08:40] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:40] <Ralith> been there.
[08:40] <frogzoo> batman: giving users root group access is a plain bad idea
[08:41] <Ralith> I've loaded the driver fine
[08:41] <frogzoo> batman: it will burn you sooner or later
[08:41] <Ralith> but no new interfaces show up
[08:41] <michaelfavia> Ralith, WHAT CARD?
[08:41] <Ralith> AR5BMB5
[08:41] <Ralith> and you needn't shout
[08:41] <batman> frogzoo: only certian priveledges etc.. :P
[08:41] <frogzoo> Ralith: sudo ifup INTX
[08:41] <michaelfavia> accidental caps
[08:41] <Ivaldi> Could somebody help me with getting my soundcard to work?
[08:42] <ph1qt10n> rikai: what do you mean with oro make the dir?
[08:42] <Ralith> frogzoo, iwconfig lists no interfaces other than loopback, ethernet, and ipv6-over-ipv4
[08:42] <batman> frogzoo: i have another hdd i gave a linux partition and i want it to be set to a certain folder at all times so i don't have to manually do it how coudl i do that?
[08:42] <tiede> what is your soundcard type, Ivaldi
[08:42] <Ralith> michaelfavia, I'm working off drivers from my CD.
[08:42] <lazyM0m3nt> What kind of ur sound card?
[08:42] <frogzoo> Ralith: perhaps you need to add the interfaces to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[08:42] <Ivaldi> tiede, I have a Soundblaster Audigy Platinum card
[08:42] <Ralith> frogzoo, perhaps.
[08:42] <rikai> ph1qt10n, typo i neant to say 'you do have to make the dir' and suggested /mnt/iso
[08:42] <rikai> *meant
[08:43] <Ivaldi> I also have an onboard sound card, which is disabled
[08:43] <Ralith> :(
[08:43] <Ralith> I have no idea what to do there
[08:43] <ph1qt10n> rikai: ok thx
[08:43] <frogzoo> Ralith: just create a carbon copy of eth0 for the new interface, & google's ur friend
[08:44] <michaelfavia> is there a repo for j2re on dapper?
[08:44] <Ralith> so how do I link it to the hardware?
[08:44] <Ralith> it seems making a carbon copy of eth0 would make a carbon copy of eth0, not a wireless iface.
[08:44] <rikai> Ralith, you have the restricted modules installed?
[08:45] <Ralith> rikai, yep.
[08:45] <Ralith> rikai, and the module's loaded.
[08:45] <frogzoo> Ralith: the new interface name will be maybe eth1 or wlan0, driver depending - best google for a interfaces setup for your nic
[08:45] <rewt_> frogzoo will i haveto use that command everytime now that i reboot?
[08:45] <Ralith> frogzoo, there are about three google results for my NIC.
[08:45] <Ralith> and two of them are people complaining that madwifi doesn't support it
[08:45] <tiede> Ivaldi, do you have the emu1ok1 driver loaded?
[08:45] <rikai> Ralith, madwifi?
[08:46] <frogzoo> rewt_: no - just if it screws up, but see ubutu's pm about installing esd - makes life SO much easier
[08:46] <Ivaldi> tiede, the thing is, it doesn't even show up in the multimedia systems selector. Although it does show up in the device manager and in lspci.
[08:46] <frogzoo> now really have to go, later folks
[08:46] <Ralith> rikai, as that comes with ubuntu, presumably if it were working I wouldn't be here.
[08:46] <rewt_> installing esd?
[08:46] <rewt_> thatsa command?
[08:46] <tiede> take a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards . Maybe it can help you, Ivaldi.
[08:46] <rewt_> there anyway to use something other than alsa?
[08:47] <Ivaldi> Thanks tiede, I'll check it out
[08:48] <Ralith> rikai, any ideas?
[08:48] <Ralith> rikai, ndiswrapper shows the driver as loaded and hardware present
[08:48] <Ralith> rikai, and lsmod shows the kernel module
[08:48] <Ralith> rikai, I just can't find the interface :P
[08:49] <michaelfavia> anyone have ati drivers working under dapper flight3?
[08:49] <tiede> Now, onto me!!! My wireless card is not working. Anyone got a Broadcom Wireless card working on Dapper. It was working fine on breezy through ndiswrapper, but the bcm43xx driver which is supposed to make it work on Dapper cannot seem to turn it on.
[08:50] <rikai> Ralith, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide?highlight=%28wireless%29
[08:50] <michaelfavia> Ralith, tiede did you configure your cards through network-admin
[08:50] <rikai> err
[08:50] <Ralith> whoops.
[08:50] <rikai> Ralith, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[08:50] <Ralith> michaelfavia, there is no interface to configure!
[08:50] <Ralith> rikai, thanks, looking
[08:50] <michaelfavia> did alias it then?
[08:51] <rikai> Ralith, also: <michaelfavia> Ralith, tiede did you configure your cards through network-admin
[08:51] <tiede> yup. I activated it, but when the activation pop-up appears, it just stays there and nothing happens. (The light switch on the front of my laptop does not blink)
[08:51] <batman> is there a way to chown the files in dirs?
[08:51] <Ralith> michaelfavia, what?
[08:51] <batman> all at once
[08:51] <Ralith> batman, chown -R user dir
[08:51] <nny> hrmmph totem is telling me it can't handle avis
[08:51] <nny> is that normal for a fresh ubuntu install?
[08:52] <tiede> It shows up under the name eth1, but Breezy had it as wlan0 (I guess ndiswrapper put wlan0...)
[08:52] <anto9us> !tell nny about restrictedformats
[08:52] <Ralith> michaelfavia, what do you mean by "did alias it then?"?
[08:53] <tiede> click on the lifesaver Icon on your desktop anto9us, and you will find more on it there.
[08:53] <batman> Ralith: thanks, now... i want to have my hdd mounted to a certain folder...
[08:53] <dolmans> do you guys recommend some mysql client GUI on ubuntu?
[08:53] <Ralith> batman, er, what do you mean?
[08:53] <nny> thanks anto9us
[08:53] <michaelfavia> Ralith, does iwconfig/ifconfig show it?
[08:53] <nny> btw, i am using XGL and compiz right now.. so wicked awesome it hurts
[08:54] <Ralith> michaelfavia, no, as I keep saying, there is no new visible interface.
[08:54] <Ralith> just loopback, eth0, and ipv6-over-v4
[08:54] <damnhil> what's the best webcam to buy?
[08:54] <batman> Ralith, ok i have a hdd partitioned etc.. and i have to go to the disk utility every time i reboot to remount to the folder is there a way i can have it do it and stay?
[08:54] <michaelfavia> Ralith,  make one: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[08:54] <michaelfavia> in your interfaces file
[08:55] <anto9us> tiede, you mistyped me then?
[08:55] <rapha> Hi all!
[08:55] <Ralith> michaelfavia, bash: iface: command not found
[08:55] <michaelfavia> if you know the kernel module is loaded.  (lsmod)
[08:55] <Ralith> :P
[08:55] <Ralith> and I do.
[08:55] <Ralith> oh
[08:55] <Ralith> I see
[08:55] <Ralith> missed the second bit.
[08:55] <Ralith> interfaces file?
[08:55] <michaelfavia> there you go.
[08:55] <rapha> Do you know if there's a tool for Windows that'll burn an Audio CD from .ogg files (the ones you create in Ubuntu)?
[08:55] <tiede> yeah, sorry, I read you wrong anto9us
[08:56] <michaelfavia> /etc/networking/interfaces...
[08:56] <Ralith> batman, add a line to fstab
[08:56] <Ralith> michaelfavia, thanks, I'm a bit unfamilliar with ubuntu
[08:56] <anto9us> tiede, np :)
[08:56] <lora_> hello can you help me how to uninstall wine in my system, what commands?
[08:56] <Angel_Dex> hello all
[08:56] <lora_> hello angel_dex
[08:56] <tiede> sudo apt-get remove --purge wine, lora_
[08:56] <batman> Ralith, fstab???
[08:56] <Ralith> michaelfavia, right, added, now what do I have to restart to get it to see it.
[08:56] <lora_> thanks...
[08:56] <Ralith> batman, /etc/fstab
[08:56] <michaelfavia> Ralith, me too just installed flight 3 today.. but it is pretty vanilla linux module loading.
[08:57] <Angel_Dex> would i need to do anything if i change my vidcard such as configuring somthing ?
[08:57] <rikai> !fstab
[08:57] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[08:57] <michaelfavia> anyone have ati driver support in dapper?
[08:58] <rikai> !tell batman about fstab
[08:58] <Ralith> michaelfavia, so what do I have to do to get the changes made to that file applied to the system?
[08:58] <rikai> michaelfavia, uhh, just install fglrx in the same way you did for breezy?
[08:58] <squeaka2> qui est la
[08:59] <rikai> !tell michaelfavia about fglrx
[08:59] <odat> anyone know how to setup firestarter to allow vnc connections?
[08:59] <squeaka2> on comprends pas votre langue
[08:59] <squeaka2> !!!!!
[08:59] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, squeaka2
[08:59] <rikai> odat, alllow port 5800 and port 5900
[08:59] <anto9us> !fr
[08:59] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:59] <odat> rikai, k thanx
[08:59] <squeaka2> slt tes qui
[08:59] <rikai> !fr
[08:59] <rikai> lol
[08:59] <Ralith> !es
[08:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:59] <Angel_Dex> anyone?
[09:00] <squeaka2> vous etes de cette ecole
[09:00] <tiede> I blacklisted the bcm43xx module in modprobe.d/blacklist and loaded my windows drivers through ndiswrapper 1.8, strangely it is not working. Is there a difference from 1.7 to 1.8 relevant to Broadcom cards in ndiswrapper that makes it not work properly?
[09:00] <Ralith> michaelfavia, you there?
[09:00] <squeaka2> vous etes de quelle ecole
[09:00] <batman> Ralith, thanks && do you know of the gl library file for php the name of the file?
[09:00] <odat> rikai, 5800  to 5900  or seperate?
[09:00] <Ralith> I hate it when people dissapear right before my problem's fixed.
[09:00] <Ivaldi> tiede, it didn't help me too much unfortunately, since ubuntu won't even detect the card.
[09:01] <Ralith> batman, php has a gl library? heh.
[09:01] <squeaka2> name
[09:01] <batman> Ralith, for graphics yes :P
[09:01] <tiede> squeaka2, arrete de parler francais, veux-tu, ce channel est en anglais.
[09:01] <squeaka2> a dsl
[09:01] <Ralith> batman, thought that was a purely CGI language.
[09:01] <rikai> somehow i'm tinking squeaka2 is trolling in a forgein language. ;P
[09:01] <Ralith> heh
[09:01] <rikai> odat, eh?
[09:01] <Ralith> ok
[09:01] <Ralith> so does /anyone
[09:01] <Ralith> er
[09:01] <Ralith> hit return too fast
[09:02] <squeaka2> je sais pas parler fort anglais
[09:02] <squeaka2> !!!!
[09:02] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, squeaka2
[09:02] <rikai> odat, oh, right, sepeate.
[09:02] <tiede> doesn't it show up in lspci, Ivaldi ?
[09:02] <Ralith> does /anyone/ know how to get changes made to /etc/network/interfaces reinitialized?
[09:02] <Ralith> er
[09:02] <Ralith> applied.
[09:02] <rikai> squeaka2, #ubuntu-fr
[09:02] <Ralith> not reinitialized
[09:02] <Ivaldi> tiede, yes it does, but I can't see it in the multimedia systems selector
[09:02] <dark_light> squeaka2, /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:02] <anto9us> Angel_Dex, you might need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:02] <rikai> Ralith, sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[09:02] <rikai> Ralith, sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:03] <Ralith> alright.
[09:03] <squeaka2> tiede tu peux seulement me dire dans quel ecole est tu
[09:03] <Ivaldi> 0000:02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[09:03] <Ivaldi> 0000:02:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game port (rev 03)
[09:03] <Ivaldi> 0000:02:0a.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port
[09:03] <tiede> does it show up in alsamixer.
[09:03] <rikai> Ralith, that'll cut off net access btw.
[09:03] <tiede> Ivaldi,
[09:03] <Ivaldi> alsamixer won't even start
[09:03] <dark_light> squeaka2, you are on international ubuntu channel, here we speak only english because there are too many different languages on world
[09:03] <Ralith> rikai, thought so
[09:03] <Angel_Dex> anto9us i wouldnt get any preformance boost tho no? (not a gamer)
[09:03] <squeaka2> tiede stp
[09:03] <Ivaldi> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[09:03] <squeaka2> plase tiede
[09:04] <Ralith> rikai, funny, it didn't :P
[09:04] <squeaka2> first name
[09:04] <Ralith> rikai, but my interface is still missing :P
[09:04] <rikai> Ralith, lol, sometimes ubuntu recovers.
[09:04] <rikai> Ralith, ouch.
[09:04] <squeaka2> lol
[09:04] <squeaka2> tiede plase firt name
[09:04] <Ralith> quoth ifconfig: wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[09:05] <Ralith> since everyone else has gone to bed...
[09:05] <tiede> je suis pas en europe, squeaka2. Tape "/join #ubuntu-fr" (sans les guillemets pour aller sur le chat en francais.
[09:05] <dark_light> squeaka2, i am brazillian, so when i want to speak portuguese i go to #ubuntu-br , that is a portuguese-only channel. :P can't you go to #ubuntu-fr to speak french?
[09:05] <anto9us> Angel_Dex, you might be able to install accelerated drivers for your card but there's not much point for 2d use
[09:05] <Angel_Dex> anto9us ah ok thank you
[09:05] <rikai> Ralith, gone though that wiki page i gave you?
[09:05] <odat> rikai, that didn't work
[09:05] <squeaka2> hello
[09:05] <Ralith> rikai, it's not looking very helpful.
[09:06] <Ralith> I can't find anything relevant
[09:06] <dark_light> o.o
[09:06] <rikai> odat, dunno what to tell you then, those are the ports i forwarded.
[09:06] <Ralith> it seems to assume that you don't have a problem like mine.
[09:06] <rikai> Ralith, err, its ALL relevant.
[09:06] <Ralith> well, ok.
[09:06] <Ralith> but none of it seems /useful/
[09:06] <rikai> Ralith, it's trubleshooting to find the root of the problem.
[09:06] <rikai> Ralith, as in, the point where it breaks?
[09:07] <Ralith> rikai, I know where it breaks. 4.2.5.2
[09:07] <rikai> eh?
[09:07] <squeaka2> hello
[09:07] <Ralith> but it doesn't give any hint as to what to do then.
[09:07] <Ralith> rikai, in that wiki.
[09:07] <Ralith> that's the bit where things stop matching up
[09:07] <squeaka2> firt name
[09:08] <Ralith> it says to run iwconfig and check if the output matches the example
[09:08] <Ralith> it doesn't say what to do if it doesn't :P
[09:08] <Ralith> iwconfig, as always, shows no interfaces other than eth0, lo, and sit0
[09:08] <rikai> Ralith, that means that the kernel isnt recognizing it as a wireless device.
[09:08] <Ralith> rikai, ifconfig doesn't show it either.
[09:08] <Ralith> rikai, as far as I can tell the interface doesn't exist
[09:09] <rikai> Ralith, it's not being detected by your kernel.
[09:09] <Ralith> rikai, ok, you seem pretty certain. So what do I do about it?
[09:09] <Ralith> I've got ndiswrapper happily sitting on a windows driver
[09:09] <ark3qqq> On Kubuntu, I'm trying to compile some software. I'm getting errors like "stdlib.h: No such file or directory." What package(s) do I need to install?
[09:09] <Ralith> no apparent errors theere
[09:09] <Ralith> there*
[09:09] <Ralith> and the module loads fine
[09:09] <Ralith> it's just that no interface shows up
[09:10] <ark3qqq> Or more generally, how do I get a sane environment for building stuff written in C?
[09:10] <Ralith> ark3qqq, libstdc++?
[09:10] <rikai> Ralith, no idea. ;)
[09:10] <Ralith> rikai, bah.
[09:10] <Ralith> that got me absolutely nowhere.
[09:10] <ark3qqq> Ralith: Which one(s)?
[09:10] <ifwntrends> ralith: i had this same problem, did a dist-upgrade and then reinstalled ndiswrapper-utils and it worked fine
[09:10] <rikai> Ralith, i'm not very expericend with networking. :P
[09:10] <debian_rulz>  i wouldnt mind seeing voice and cam support in linux for yahoo
[09:10] <Ralith> ifwntrends, trying it.
[09:10] <ifwntrends> ok
[09:11] <Ralith> ifwntrends, err, no such command.
[09:11] <rikai> ark3qqq, 5 and 6...? :P
[09:11] <Ralith> ifwntrends, am I missing something?
[09:11] <ifwntrends> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:11] <ifwntrends> sorry
[09:11] <Ralith> debian_rulz, iirc gaim is working on it
[09:11] <Ralith> ifwntrends, ah
[09:11] <rikai> !dist-upgrade
[09:11] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rikai
[09:11] <rikai> feh
[09:11] <Ralith> ifwntrends, no changes :P
[09:11] <tiede> ths should help you Ivaldi : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7134
[09:12] <ifwntrends> hmm
[09:12] <rewt_> Are Belkin wireless cards supported by ubuntu?
[09:12] <weedar> Some are rewt_  :)
[09:12] <rewt_> Belkin Wireless g
[09:12] <nny> should i have multiverse enabled in dapper?
[09:12] <Ralith> ifwntrends, what's the apt-get command to reinstall?
[09:12] <rikai> Ralith, do you have universe, mulitverse and backports enabled? :P
[09:12] <Ralith> rikai, yep
[09:12] <Ralith> rikai, this is a fresh install freshly updated.
[09:12] <tiede> so you guys gave up on my broadcom wireless soundcard?
[09:12] <ifwntrends> relith: reinstall which?
[09:12] <rewt_> F5D7010
[09:13] <weedar> rewt_, I believe so. Check out ndsiwrapper and the compatibility list :)
[09:13] <ompaul> nny, you should not irc as root - :-) and you can if you want to, be aware that dapper will most likely be broken between now and 20 april when it will be released
[09:13] <weedar> rewt_, sorry, that should be ndiswrapper
[09:13] <tiede> and,  BTW, do I need to ifdown eth0 (my wired lan) in order to ifup eth1?
[09:13] <Ralith> ifwntrends, it's ralith, and I mean ndiswrapper-utils
[09:13] <rikai> debian_rulz, it's being worked on by the gaim folks, it wont be read for 2.0 final, but it's a high priority, until then, use kopete. ;)
[09:13] <rewt_> ndsiwrapper in terminal
[09:13] <rewt_> ?
[09:13] <rewt_> ndis*
[09:13] <nny> ompaul: hehe oh i know
[09:13] <weedar> rewt_, www.ndsiwrapper.sf.net
[09:13] <nny> ompaul: i am using XGL/Compiz right now
[09:13] <nny> ompaul: and the part without root is next
[09:14] <rikai> !tell rewt_ about ndiswrapper
[09:14] <tiede> And I meant broadcom wireless *lan* card BTW
[09:14] <ifwntrends> ralith: sorry...uh, 'sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils' then 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils'
[09:14] <Ralith> ah
[09:14] <Ralith> simple enough :P
[09:14] <ifwntrends> ralith: yup ;)
[09:15] <Ralith> ifwntrends, not a single change :P
[09:15] <rikai> rewt_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards for supported cards
[09:15] <rikai> Ralith, you might try instaling ndiswrapper from source instead... :o
[09:15] <weedar> Just FYI, I use a belkin card with a broadcom chip and it works perfectly. The only issue was that I had to download ndiswrappe (and also wpa_supplicant for wpa-support) and compile from source
[09:15] <Ralith> rikai, the latest version, you mean?
[09:15] <nny> ompaul: can i just get mplayer packages and whatnot otherwise then?  I am not trying to break stuff, just get mplayer
[09:15] <rikai> Ralith, indeed.
[09:16] <Ralith> right, doing so
[09:16] <rikai> nny, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:16] <nny> rikai: in dapper?
[09:16] <ompaul> nny, you can get anything you want from multiverse - will it work - it is a dev paltform
[09:16] <ark3qqq> Ralith: That worked great. Thanks for your help.
[09:16] <nny> rikai: Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:17] <rikai> nny, ah, right, sudo apt-get install gmplayer
[09:17] <nny> rikai: now that works :)
[09:17] <rikai> nny, what ompaul is trying to say is, multiverse is just as safe as any of the other repos.
[09:17] <nny> rikai: ompaul, i am not new too linux, but not old school.. i just started using ubuntu to get XGL, (BTW, you will find ALOT of people jumping on ubuntu with it's prelim allowance for XGL)
[09:17] <rikai> *other official repos
[09:18] <AMDXP> is there any info about ubuntu and myth tv
[09:18] <nny> rikai: and i am really liking it
[09:18] <AMDXP> !mythTV
[09:18] <ubotu> somebody said mythtv was for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[09:18] <squeaka2> re hello
[09:18] <squeaka2> firt name
[09:18] <rikai> nny, lol, i'd setup xgl if i knew which packages to install. ;)
[09:18] <nny> rikai: i can show you very easily
[09:19] <nny> rikai: if your on dapper flight 3
[09:19] <rewt_> what's the location of the main menu in the tool bar? /usr/??
[09:19] <ompaul> nny, apt-cache search mplayer<< and see what comes back
[09:19] <nny> rikai: just walked my girl through it in like 1/2 an hour
[09:19] <rewt_> I'm setting up a custom button
[09:19] <rewt_> but I dunno the location
[09:19] <nny> ompaul: ksubtile - subtitle editor for KDE
[09:19] <nny> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[09:19] <nny> tea - small text editor with syntax highlighting & UTF support
[09:19] <nny> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[09:19] <rikai> nny, i'm just waiting for dapper's xgl pacages to appear. ;)
[09:20] <nny> ompaul: thats it *without* multiverse
[09:20] <tiede> Anyone not too busy, in lshw, my card is listed, but it is disabled. What does that mean?
[09:20] <CarinArr> hey, does anyone have experience in setting up an ubuntu machine as an ldap client?
[09:20] <vladuz976> how come breezy still doesn't have firefox 1.5 in the repos?
[09:20] <ompaul> nny, add multiverse ... then sudo apt-get update then search
[09:20] <nny> rikai: http://battlehorse.homelinux.net/w/Wiki.jsp?page=Xgl
[09:20] <tiede>  product: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller #under *network:1 DISABLED
[09:21] <nny> rikai: 4 packages you need there, i am using nosvg_compiz, xserver, firxgl-glitx, and mesa
[09:21] <nny> rikai: only hack i have is starting xgl via script after killing gdm and then running script to start compiz (the window manager)
[09:21] <rikai> nny, and for nvidia cards?
[09:21] <nny> rikai: the reg glitz pack
[09:21] <vladuz976> is there a firefox 1.5 package around?
[09:22] <Ralith> rikai, newb question: what's the packagename for the kernel sources?
[09:22] <nny> rikai: two good resoucres (3 actually) #xgl-ubuntu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090 http://www-personal.engin.umd.umich.edu/~npodges/compiz_tweaking.txt
[09:22] <rikai> Ralith, linux-headers
[09:23] <nny> rikai: i can do it now on a frsh install in 30 minutes to an hour tops
[09:23] <kryptoz> hey all
[09:23] <tiede> also, it won't show up in lspci -v | grep Ethernet
[09:23] <kryptoz> i am running parted to resize my hda1 to hda1 and hda2
[09:23] <kryptoz> its a 80gb hd
[09:23] <kryptoz> how do i go with the resize command ?
[09:23] <nny> rikai: i may go to bed soon, but i'll back on wednesday (gotta stop geekin for one night) i'd be more than happy to help if i can
[09:24] <kryptoz> do i give "resize 2 startblock endblock" ?
[09:24] <kryptoz> or "resize 2 sizeinMB" ?
[09:24] <kryptoz> ?
[09:24] <rewt_> how do i get like a wireless connecter?
[09:24] <rewt_> like windows had
[09:24] <rewt_> when it found new networks
[09:24] <rewt_> i just click the ap and hit connect
[09:25] <rewt_> ?
[09:26] <Ralith> rikai, lots of build errors, probably because it wants gcc 3.4 and I have a system set up for 4.something
[09:27] <elkbuntu> rewt_, wifi-radar maybe?
[09:27] <Ralith> rikai, first error is loadndisdriver.c:16:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[09:27] <nny> elkbuntu: hmm interresant, wifiradar eh?
[09:27] <Ralith> I suspect I need another copy of libstdc++
[09:27] <Ralith> but which?
[09:27] <elkbuntu> nny huh?
[09:28] <infestdead> hi, i'm using xfce4 and are not beeing able to change the background! i also no longer have the right-button menu on the desktop. The only way to change the background is bay running nautilus.. but its lame way...:) I installed it sudo apt-get install xfce4, and at firts all was ok, but later, those problems appeared. May be it's a plugin for xfce4 that malfunctions? ..
[09:28] <nny> (08:31:49) elkbuntu: rewt_, wifi-radar maybe?
[09:28] <Ralith> does anyone /else/ have an idea about how to fix 'loadndisdriver.c:16:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[09:28] <Ralith> '?
[09:28] <nny> elkbuntu: need to look at that
[09:29] <elkbuntu> nny ah
[09:29] <Ralith> I have the gcc 4.0 stuff on my system, and this is using 3.4
[09:29] <Ralith> I installed gcc 3.4 but apparently I need to also install some std libs for it.
[09:29] <glyph> Is it generally known that the latest kernel in dapper breaks certain vendor-supplied binaries?  I can't get it to run Cedega or Skype.
[09:29] <Ralith> which ones?
[09:29] <rewt_> yep thanks
[09:29] <glyph> I can never tell from looking at Malone whether I should be reporting the bug or not.
[09:31] <rikai> Ralith, err, install both? ;)
[09:31] <rikai> libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 o/
[09:31] <Ralith> ah.
[09:32] <Ralith> gcc -g -Wall -DUTILS_VERSION=\"1.7\"  -o loadndisdriver loadndisdriver.c
[09:32] <Ralith> loadndisdriver.c:15:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[09:32] <Ralith> :P
[09:32] <crus> Is there an ubuntu deb package for the new firefox 1.5
[09:33] <Ralith> rikai, any idea what lib that's from if not stdc++?
[09:33] <rikai> !find loadndisdriver.c
[09:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'loadndisdriver.c' returned no results.
[09:35] <Ralith> :P
[09:35] <Ralith> I thought it was stdlib.h I needed
[09:35] <Ralith> !find stdlib.h
[09:36] <vladuz976> can someone help me? i am trying to install firefox 1.5 but i get segmentaion faults when trying to start it
[09:36] <rewt_> ?
[09:36] <rewt_> Why ? did it not come standard?
[09:38] <k4ncil73> #yogya_carding
[09:38] <Ralith> rikai, still can't find that header
[09:38] <ProfessorChaos> how do I fix network-manager "failed to open connection to system message bus"
[09:38] <ProfessorChaos> I can't apt-get -f install it
[09:39] <rikai> !find stdlib
[09:39] <ubotu> mozart-stdlib: (The Mozart Programming System (Standard Library)), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 20040616-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1024 kB, Installed size: 2808 kB
[09:39] <ProfessorChaos> it says dpkg error processing network-manager (--configure)
[09:39] <hatake_kakashi> anyone have encountered an odd error with ubuntu (Hoary) not being able to bootup after installation? I have kept the /home drive unformatted, however GRUB sees almost all partitions as FAT when they are as what I have configured?
[09:39] <Ralith> :P
[09:40] <Ralith> binutils-dev is no help
[09:40] <Ralith> got it!
[09:41] <rikai> Ralith, oh you mght need libstdc++5-devl and ibstdc++6-dev
[09:41] <rikai> err
[09:41] <rikai> Ralith, oh you mght need libstdc++5-dev and libstdc++6-dev
[09:41] <Ralith> rikai, it built fine now
[09:42] <ProfessorChaos> I just removed it
[09:42] <fek> moin
[09:42] <rikai> Ralith, what was missing?
[09:42] <rewt_> anyone here use gdesklets?
[09:42] <rikai> rewt_, ask away.
[09:42] <Ralith> rikai, libc-dev
[09:42] <rewt_> i was told if i use them not to install the gdesklets-data
[09:42] <rewt_> ?
[09:42] <rewt_> something about them being corrupted?
[09:43] <Ralith> :D
[09:43] <Ralith> iwconfig shows it!
[09:43] <hatake_kakashi> I assume no-one has had troubles with Hoary installation of ubuntu?
[09:43] <rikai> Ralith, doh *smacks forehead*
[09:43] <rewt_> hatake, what roblems?
[09:43] <rewt_> *problems
[09:43] <rikai> Ralith, awesome!
[09:43] <rikai> Ralith, you're using breezy correct?
[09:43] <Ralith> yep
[09:43] <hatake_kakashi> anyone have encountered an odd error with ubuntu (Hoary) not being able to bootup after installation? I have kept the /home drive unformatted, however GRUB sees almost all partitions as FAT when they are as what I have configured?
[09:43] <rewt_> rikai, think they are bad to install? the -data?
[09:44] <Ralith> rikai, quoth iwconfig: Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[09:44] <Ralith> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[09:44] <Ralith> may not be available...
[09:44] <rikai> rewt_, err -data works fine
[09:44] <Ralith> any ideas?
[09:44] <rewt_> hmm
[09:44] <rewt_> alright
[09:44] <rikai> Ralith, it should work with dapper's default stuff if you're so inclined to install it.
[09:45] <Ralith> rikai, do I have to do a complete reinstall?
[09:45] <ProfessorChaos> anyone in here running dapper, and has a Audgy 2ZS?
[09:45] <rikai> Ralith, well, that'd be optimal, yes.
[09:45] <Ralith> :P
[09:45] <Ralith> no, then.
[09:45] <Ralith> rikai, ok, next problem
[09:45] <rikai> lol.
[09:45] <ifwntrends> rikai: any idea how to not include dappers default broadcom modules, i want to update but it broke my wireless last time
[09:46] <Ralith> rikai, iwconfig isn't listening to me :P
[09:46] <Ralith> rikai, I do 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid> key <key>' and nothing changes
[09:46] <dooglus> ifwntrends: you can use /etc/apt/preferences to 'pin' the version of a package
[09:46] <ifwntrends> dooglus: ok, i'll look into that, thanks
[09:46] <ProfessorChaos> anyone in here know how I can reconfigure alsa to auto detect my sound card again?
[09:47] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: so..
[09:47] <dooglus> ifwntrends: "man apt_preferences"
[09:47] <ifwntrends> thanks
[09:48] <JoeBlow> whats a really great ftp program for linux?
[09:49] <pilu> I use gftp as ftp client
[09:49] <rikai> Ralith, any dmesg output?
[09:50] <rikai> ifwntrends, nope, sorry.
[09:50] <ifwntrends> rikai: ok, no worries...i think i'm on the right track
[09:52] <dooglus> JoeBlow: GNU Emacs has a great transparent FTP built right in, so you can edit files via FTP as if they were local.
[09:52] <JoeBlow> dooglus, i need to conenct to an ftp that has al kidna of rules and shit that have to be set, i need somethign like flashfxp
[09:53] <dooglus> JoeBlow: I don't think the FTP protocol supports rules and shit does it?
[09:53] <pbaldanta> Hi all. 1 question. I'd like to create a printer that generate pdf, as pdfwriter in windows world.
[09:53] <dooglus> JoeBlow: it's pretty simple, from what I remember of it.
[09:54] <dooglus> JoeBlow: can you give an example of a rule that needs to be set?
[09:54] <JoeBlow> yea on second
[09:55] <JoeBlow> i need to use implicit ssl dooglus
[09:55] <dooglus> JoeBlow: what's that?
[09:55] <JoeBlow> dooglus, its a form of ssl
[09:55] <CarinArr> how would i go about changing the default home directory in ubuntu?
[09:55] <JoeBlow> dooglus, I dunno what it really is, im not networker, im just trying to get on my friends ftp
[09:55] <CarinArr> i.e. if i don't want it to be at /home/
[09:56] <epod> I'm having a weird issue.  When I install Ubuntu, my only availble resolution is 640x480, and I can't change it with any of the tools in the menus.  Can anyone direct me to where I can recify that?
[09:56] <dark_light> someone tell me some repositories that contains w32codecs and libdivx4linux packages
[09:56] <dgold> epod: that isn't wierd -  its xorg!
[09:57] <dooglus> JoeBlow: this http://www.smartftp.com/support/kb/index.php/189 talks about implicit and explicit SSL
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: nm, I think I have found the solution
[09:57] <epod> dgold, errr ok, how do I make my res a happy 1280x1024 then? :)
[09:57] <dooglus> JoeBlow: I've never heard of FTP servers using SSL before.  Maybe I'm not 1337 enough?
[09:57] <JoeBlow> dooglus i dunno what it even is
[09:58] <tyler_> how can i get brother mfc's to work in linux?
[09:59] <dgold> epod: you will need to cruft up a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You will need to do some backgrounding also. take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127425&highlight=xorg+resolution
[09:59] <epod> dgold, thanks :)
[10:00] <dgold> epod: do you have the id of your graphics card?
[10:00] <epod> dgold, it's a built-in nvidia GPU... nforce2 board.
[10:00] <dooglus> JoeBlow: try installing "ftp-ssl"
[10:00] <epod> MX-440
[10:00] <JoeBlow> dooglus, yea jsut give me one second
[10:00] <JoeBlow> dooglus, someone told me i could wine this really great windows program
[10:01] <dooglus> JoeBlow: have 2
[10:01] <JoeBlow> dooglus, k thats isntalled
[10:01] <epod> dgold, I did edit my xorg.conf and set the resolution in the Screen section to what I wanted, but no dice.
[10:01] <dgold> epod: then look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:01] <epod> kk.
[10:02] <dooglus> JoeBlow: it doesn't have a GUI, but it should get you onto your friend's FTP
[10:03] <JoeBlow> dooglus, k sweet, omne second
[10:04] <ubuntu> helo
[10:04] <JoeBlow> hi
[10:04] <JoeBlow> dooglus, do u know the connect command?
[10:05] <ubuntu> i bad speek english ;)
[10:05] <JoeBlow> lol
[10:06] <ubuntu> sam takoi
[10:07] <dooglus> JoeBlow: "ftp-ssl <host or ip address> <port>"
[10:07] <dooglus> JoeBlow: "man ftp-ssl" will tell you
[10:07] <JoeBlow> dooglus, did that, tells me im not connect tho, even tho it shows i am
[10:07] <dooglus> JoeBlow: what's the host and port?
[10:08] <JoeBlow> dooglus, ok got it
[10:08] <JoeBlow> lol
[10:08] <dooglus> ok
[10:08] <JoeBlow> dooglus he gave it to me in a strange formant
[10:08] <lora_> hello people...
[10:08] <dooglus> JoeBlow: then use "cd", "dir", "get" and "put"
[10:08] <JoeBlow> dooglus, yea, thanks
[10:08] <dark_light> i wanna sources for w32codecs and libdivx4linux packages :~~
[10:08] <lora_> i have install XMMS, how can i run it?
[10:08] <lora_> i have install XMMS, how can i run it?
[10:09] <Madpilot> !restricted
[10:09] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:09] <Madpilot> dark_light: see the URL above ^^^
[10:09] <dooglus> JoeBlow: you might need to "bin" before transferring, or it might use ASCII mode, and corrupt your binary downloads
[10:09] <dark_light> Madpilot, aaah ok!
[10:09] <dark_light> Madpilot, thanks=)
[10:09] <Madpilot> np
[10:10] <JoeBlow> dooglus, alright
[10:10] <manicka> are there any vmware player virtual machines for dapper available?
[10:11] <lora_> hello, can anybody help? i have install XMMS, from an RPM package converted by alien to work with ubuntu, how can i run it?
[10:12] <dgold> lora_ : why? XMMS is in the repositories?
[10:13] <lora_> nop, i installed it using the RPM package
[10:13] <Madpilot> !info xmms
[10:13] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[10:13] <Madpilot> lora_: it's in the repos...
[10:13] <martii> !info kinodv
[10:13] <dark_light> Madpilot, it refers to ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb , but i am using amd64
[10:13] <lora_> ok thanks
[10:13] <martii> !info kino
[10:13] <lora_> yes i see it in the repos
[10:13] <ubotu> kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-7ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 725 kB, Installed size: 2676 kB
[10:14] <SeyToN> can someone help me please with apt-get ?
[10:14] <Madpilot> dark_light: I think the w32 stuff doesn't work in 64bit...
[10:14] <SeyToN> please
[10:14] <dgold> !ask
[10:14] <martii> !help
[10:14] <lora_> i see it in the repos as installed (local obselete)
[10:14] <SeyToN> i have this error
[10:14] <dark_light> Madpilot, how these w32 codecs works? it uses w32 libs? i wanna hear .wma files
[10:14] <dooglus> lora_: you can "dpkg -L xmms" to see which files it installed.  look for one with "/bin/" in it:  "dpkg -L xmms | grep /bin/"
[10:15] <SeyToN> root@kevin:/home/kevin# apt-get install xmms
[10:15] <SeyToN> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:15] <SeyToN> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:15] <SeyToN> it says im using  another process but i dont what kind of process im using....
[10:15] <dooglus> SeyToN: is another process using it?  do you have synaptic running or some such?
[10:15] <dgold> SeyToN: do you have syanptic/aptitude &c running?
[10:15] <dark_light> SeyToN, tente ps -A | grep apt
[10:15] <dark_light> ops
[10:15] <SeyToN> how do i know that?
[10:15] <kwewu14> is ubuntu built on gcc4 yet?
[10:15] <dark_light> SeyToN, try ps -A | grep apt
[10:15] <SeyToN> ok
[10:16] <Madpilot> dark_light: AFAIK the w32codecs are actual win32 files, so you're out of luck w/ 64bit
[10:16] <SeyToN> command not found.... :S
[10:16] <dark_light> Madpilot, but.. there are no linux codecs for .wma ?
[10:17] <dark_light> SeyToN, hey, you have no ps ? o.o try running with sudo
[10:17] <lora_> i have also installed w32codecs, how does it work with the availble multimedia players>
[10:17] <SeyToN> im on root
[10:17] <dark_light> SeyToN, you have no ps or no grep
[10:17] <dark_light> ?
[10:17] <SeyToN> let me check
[10:17] <NoStress> hi
[10:17] <Madpilot> dark_light: I can't keep the various codecs straight, tbh - read that URL I posted carefully...
[10:18] <dark_light> Madpilot, ok..
[10:18] <tiede> does anyone here know how I can get the ndiswrapper 1.10 package to work in ubuntu (1.8 won't work with my soundcard)
[10:18] <kwewu14> how do i see what versions of packages ubuntu is using?
[10:19] <dark_light> root@neo:~# ps -A | grep apt
[10:19] <dark_light>  , 17978 pts/2    00:00:00 synaptic , SeyToN , here it works
[10:19] <NoStress> i've a pb: i cant't install initramfs-tool because "kernel is too old", and i can't install linux-2.6.15 because initramfs-tools is not installed, what can i do ?
[10:19] <tiede> kwewu14, if you go oppen synaptic, it tells you the versoin of each installed package
[10:20] <SeyToN> i dont get it :(
[10:20] <JoeBlow> dooglus, found this program flash fxp, runs perfect under wine
[10:20] <dark_light> if you have no grep, you can do ps -A and search thought it
[10:21] <SeyToN> i type ps -A but nothing happen in the shell
[10:21] <dgold> SeyTon: what do you get if you type ps -A
[10:21] <dark_light> SeyToN, so you are not logged as root
[10:21] <SeyToN> actually it did show me something
[10:21] <dark_light> ... i think
[10:22] <tiede> does anyone here know how I can get the ndiswrapper 1.10 package to work in ubuntu (1.8 won't work with my soundcard) and when I make install in the directory I untarred ndiswrapper, it complains about kernel sources !?!
[10:22] <dgold> SeyTon: What did it show?
[10:22] <SeyToN> a huge list with 3 pts/0
[10:23] <epod> tiede, did you install the kernel sources?
[10:23] <dgold> seyton; thats hardly 'nothing'
[10:23] <SeyToN>  8925 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[10:23] <SeyToN>  8943 pts/0    00:00:00 su
[10:23] <SeyToN>  8944 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[10:24] <SeyToN> what do you recomend to do?
[10:24] <Nameeater> tiede: do you have the kernel-source-`uname -r` (ithink) package?
[10:25] <Nameeater> actually thats not that source file
[10:25] <Nameeater> hmm
[10:25] <tiede> I don't think so. Let me check
[10:26] <tiede> does make need the kernel-sources package to work?
[10:26] <SeyToN> what if i try ps -aux?
[10:26] <Nameeater> if ndiswrapper needs em you will
[10:26] <dgold> tiede: ndiswrapper needs the kernel sources to establish the module
[10:26] <kp_> Anyone seen anything of sladen lately?
[10:26] <Nameeater> ok do uname -r
[10:27] <Nameeater> then apt-cache search <first 3 parts of that, i.e. 2.6.12 | grep kernel | grep source
[10:27] <NoStress> i've a pb: error while installing initramfs-tool because "kernel is too old", and i can't install linux-2.6.15 because "initramfs-tools is not configured yet", what can i do ?
[10:27] <Nameeater> and thats the package you might need if ndiswrapper is complaining about needing kernel source
[10:27] <Madpilot> !seen sladen
[10:27] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'sladen', Madpilot
[10:30] <tiede> the only kernel-source package I have in synaptic is for K7 architecture. I am on a i386. Am I supposed to install linux-source or kernel-source?
[10:30] <tiede> I did not see your post Nameeater, thanks
[10:32] <Nameeater> tiede: good luck :)
[10:33] <damo21> hi which cd should i use to install ubuntu?
[10:33] <damo21> is the live just for a demo?
[10:33] <tiede> thanks Nameeater. (Downloading, 11 mins remaining...)
[10:33] <Nameeater> must have nice fast internet heh
[10:33] <Madpilot> damo21: the live is just for demo - you need an install ISO or CD to actually install it
[10:34] <damo21> cool ok,  i have both now thx
[10:34] <SeyToN> i cant find any syanptic/aptitude &c in the PID
[10:34] <tiede> 100 Mbps, Nameeater! :D
[10:35] <SeyToN> its not in ps -A and ps -aux
[10:35] <Nameeater> holy....cripes ;)
[10:35] <Nameeater> is that your home connection?
[10:35] <tiede> Of course not. It's at work :D
[10:35] <epod> only if hes' in Sweden :P
[10:35] <Nameeater> ahhh right :)
[10:37] <rend> i am unable to get my dual display working with nvidia.. most i can get both displays running at is 1280x1024 @ 75hz
[10:37] <rapha> I've searched Google, then waited for over an hour now here. Can nobody at least TALK to me, please
[10:37] <rapha> `?
[10:37] <rend> but the display should be 1680x1050 @ 60hz
[10:37] <SeyToN> how do i know if my ubuntu is breezy dapper?
[10:37] <SeyToN> or*
[10:37] <SeyToN> uname -a?
[10:38] <rend> SeyToN, ctrl-alt f2
[10:38] <rend> then see what the login says
[10:39] <rend> why does the screen resolution prefernces app only list 1 resolution and one refresh rate?
[10:39] <ph1qt10n> rapha: what you need bro?
[10:40] <SeyToN> cool cheers man
[10:40] <rend> rapha, unfortunately support here sometimes seems lackin ;(
[10:40] <Madpilot> !fixres
[10:40] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:40] <Madpilot> rend: see above URL ^^^
[10:41] <SeyToN> yeah i got the same problem
[10:41] <ph1qt10n> rend: this is a community based help channel. Please have patience, after all we are all learning:)
[10:41] <SeyToN> the video resolution
[10:42] <SeyToN> it seems im running at 16 high color
[10:43] <Madpilot> SeyToN: have you looked thru that FixVideo URL?
[10:43] <yanimax> how to make sound effects with linux ?
[10:43] <Michi> hello
[10:43] <SeyToN> i am looking the link
[10:44] <rend> ph1qt10n, of course dude.
[10:44] <Michi> when i start the x server i get this error! "XIO fatal IO error 104 (Connecion reset by peer) oXserver ":0.0" after 0 request (Oknown processed) with 0 events remaining"
[10:44] <Michi> whats happen with my xserver?
[10:45] <peej> Michi: this is during install?
[10:45] <Frogzoo> Michi: check the log /var/logs...
[10:46] <realflapjack> hello @ all
[10:46] <realflapjack> and greetings from germany
[10:47] <SeyToN> how do i know if im running with 24 display color?
[10:47] <SeyToN> 24-bit true color*
[10:48] <SeyToN> anyone?
[10:48] <realflapjack> can anybody help me with a litte, but important, ubuntuproblem?
[10:48] <tiede> I installed the linux-source package, and still have the same problem. For the output of make install and checkinstall, go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=731341#post731341
[10:49] <Frogzoo> SeyToN: -> images.google.com ;)
[10:49] <Madpilot> realflapjack: if you just ask your question, someone might be able to help...
[10:49] <dgold>                       checkinstall, go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=731341#post731341
[10:50] <dgold> sorry
[10:50] <realflapjack> ok
[10:50] <realflapjack> here we go:
[10:50] <kwewu14> why is my distro borked? it was supposed to be good.
[10:51] <kwewu14> hmm, does ubuntu use gcc4?
[10:51] <kwewu14> or should i wait for the april release to switch over?
[10:51] <Frogzoo> kwewu14: 4.0.2
[10:51] <realflapjack> i try for several days to watch a dvd with my ubuntu. all necessary codecs are already installed. i think, the problem is, that ubuntu can't find my dvd device. for example, lsdvds output: egionset version 0.1 -- reads/sets region code on DVD drives
[10:51] <realflapjack> ERROR: Could not open disc "(null)"!
[10:51] <realflapjack> Ensure that there is any readable CD or DVD in the drive.
[10:51] <realflapjack> root@ubuntu:/home/flapjack# gedit /etc/fstab
[10:51] <kwewu14> Frogzoo: wow, really?
[10:52] <kwewu14> screw this crap then, i'm changing now.
[10:52] <rapha> ph1qt10n: I need a program to burn an audio CD from the ogg files you create under Ubuntu
[10:53] <dgold> kwewu14: why do you say that it is borked?
[10:53] <SeyToN> its any comand word that tells me what display colors im running e.g 16,24.32 bit?
[10:53] <kwewu14> dgold: the knights package requires kdearts...
[10:53] <kwewu14> i didn't install arts support.
[10:53] <Madpilot> rapha: Serpentine or k3b will work
[10:53] <kwewu14> (i'm not talking about ubuntu)
[10:54] <kwewu14> i don't like arts, from what i gather, kubuntu uses akode
[10:54] <tiede> rapha, you can use gnomebaker, or even nautilus cd-burner!
[10:54] <crus> Is there an ubuntu package to upgrade Firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5?
[10:54] <Madpilot> tiede: Nautilus doesn't do audioCD
[10:55] <tiede> You're right. I forgot i use Serpentine for that. Thanks Madpilot
[10:55] <kwewu14> ubuntu doesn't use firefox 1.5 yet? :/
[10:55] <Madpilot> crus: there will be in April when Dapper comes out
[10:55] <crus> :(
[10:55] <Alexandre> Hey guys i try a dist-upgrade(breezy to drapper) and receive this message: Please enter the name of one of these cities or zones
[10:55] <Alexandre> You just need to type enough letters to resolve ambiguities
[10:55] <Alexandre> Press Enter to view all of them again
[10:55] <dgold> kwewu14: isn't the arts dependency an upstream problem, not ubuntu-specific
[10:56] <Alexandre> What i do?
[10:56] <Frogzoo> !ff
[10:56] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo
[10:56] <Frogzoo> !ff1.5
[10:56] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:56] <kwewu14> dgold: for me its a gentoo problem, all other apps i've built don't need arts, and then a chess program (knights) won't compile without it.
[10:57] <kwewu14> how is ubuntu for detecting the horiz and verti sync of a monitor?
[10:57] <dgold> kwewu14: use a different chess program?
[10:57] <Frogzoo> kwewu14: works well on recent monitors...
[10:58] <kwewu14> dgold: i wanted to use knights.
[11:00] <Madpilot> kwewu14: knights is in Ubuntu's repos... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=knights&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[11:05] <Protocol1> one nice thing I like about this channel...no one ever sleeps
[11:06] <Contamination> Well who wouldn't it's 44 degrees outside.
[11:07] <rapha> Madpilot: tiede: But I only have a Windows box with a burner avaiable here at work :-( ... under Ubuntu I'd know how to do it
[11:09] <Frogzoo> can anyone suggest an optimal install for jdoom resource packs? would just installing everything be the way to go?
[11:11] <tiede> go there, rapha http://sailormusic.net/software.html
[11:11] <Matyasza> !kernel update
[11:11] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Matyasza
[11:12] <Matyasza> !kernel
[11:12] <Frogzoo> !info linux-image
[11:13] <Frogzoo> !info kernel-image
[11:13] <Matyasza> !info kernel-image
[11:13] <Protocol1> Frogzoo: whoa how is jdoom?
[11:13] <Matyasza> thanks
[11:13] <rend> i can get my monitor to run in 1680x1050, but i am having trouble getting both monitors to work in full resolution.. but i can get them both in 1280x1024 each.
[11:13] <Nameeater> !fixres
[11:13] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:13] <Frogzoo> !info linux-image-686
[11:13] <Nameeater> tried that rend?
[11:13] <ubotu> linux-image-686: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[11:13] <rend> Nameeater i already read that
[11:14] <Frogzoo> Protocol1: I'll let you know in a couple of mins :)
[11:14] <Nameeater> o :(
[11:14] <Nameeater> you using twinview?
[11:14] <rend> yes
[11:14] <Protocol1> ok
[11:14] <Nameeater> sec
[11:14] <tiede> it's 38 degrees here, Contamination
[11:14] <rend> Nameeater i added a meta modes #Option          "MetaModes" "1680x1050, 1680x1050"
[11:14] <Matyasza> Im trying to update my ubuntu kernel from 5.04 version to 5.10 is it a risky business?
[11:14] <Frogzoo> !jdoom
[11:14] <rend> i commented it out because x wasnt starting
[11:14] <ubotu> jdoom is probably a port of ID's Doom to Linux. The jDoom engine supports Doom, Doom II, Hexen and Heretic. Instructions for installation on Breezy can be found at http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi/community-projects/yagisan-s-doomsday-for-debian-ubuntu
[11:14] <Nameeater> you have a # in front?
[11:15] <Nameeater> hmm
[11:15] <Nameeater> rend: have you tried messing with the refresh rates you've set?
[11:15] <Nameeater> or does X crash
[11:15] <Madpilot> Matyasza: upgrading is fairly straightforward - have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:16] <tiede> depends Matyasza. I did and my wireless is currently out of service! It is not recommended to do it without knowing what you're doing (but, who cares)
[11:16] <possie> is there a "user switch" in ubuntu desktop as well? i don't want to logout atm, just switch a user (via Desktop i mean)
[11:16] <rend> Nameeater it doesnt start...
[11:16] <Gourami> has anyone experienced this error in evolution ? Error while Storing folder 'Sent'.
[11:16] <Nameeater> applications/system tools/new login
[11:16] <rend> Nameeater i have tried messing around with the refresh rates.
[11:17] <mahangu> where would my xchat logs be?
[11:17] <tiede> If you want to help the devels with testing, you can install Dapper on a separate partition, that's what the devs recommend, Matyasza
[11:17] <rend> mahangu .xchat2
[11:17] <Nameeater> ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs
[11:17] <mahangu> thanks
[11:17] <Matyasza> Thank you
[11:17] <Nameeater> rend: what does it say in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[11:18] <Matyasza> I'm following BreezyUpgrade
[11:18] <Nameeater> what errors
[11:18] <Matyasza> at the moment
[11:18] <dark_light> how can i configure x.org so i can use a better monitor frequency? i am using 60hz and i want to use 100hz, but there are no 100hz on the gnome "screen resolution"
[11:18] <Frogzoo> Gourami: full disk?
[11:18] <Gourami> Frogzoo6gb fee
[11:19] <Frogzoo> !tell dark_light about xorg
[11:19] <rewt_> i used keyboard shortcute to configure my buttons for the volume up down and mute.......after configurning they still don't work.
[11:19] <rewt_> >.<
[11:19] <p0windah> tried to use my USB cam, accessing = instant freeze :(
[11:19] <Frogzoo> rewt_: use amarok ;)
[11:19] <rend> Nameeater gimme a sec
[11:19] <dark_light> Frogzoo, i tried it, and i put a new resolution, 1280x1024
[11:20] <dark_light> but the maximum freq. is still 60h
[11:20] <dark_light> 60hz
[11:20] <rewt_> where is that located?
[11:20] <NoStress> i've a pb: i cat't install initramfs-tool because "kernel is too old", and i can't install linux-2.6.15 because "initramfs-tools is not configured yet", what can i do ?
[11:20] <Frogzoo> dark_light: you want to choose expert mode so you can pick freq
[11:20] <morphix> can your monitor go any higher than 60hz at that res??
[11:20] <dark_light> Frogzoo, oh, thanks
[11:20] <Gourami> anyone know the url for Evolution, google brings up tons of results
[11:20] <ProfessorChaos> anyone in here able to run Xgl on Nvidia hardware?
[11:20] <rend> Nameeater: (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1680x1050" (bad mode               clock/interlace/doublescan)
[11:21] <Frogzoo> NoStress: would 2.6.12 be workable?
[11:21] <dark_light> Frogzoo, i was looking on /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[11:21] <Nameeater> wierd, any (EE) 's?
[11:21] <rend> Nameeater    (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1680x10501680x1050" (no mode of this        name)
[11:21] <rewt_> is amarok compatible with ubuntu?
[11:21] <jimcooncat> how do I find what process is listening to a port? I want to know why I can't forward port 5900 because something else is listening to it.
[11:21] <rend> maybe i shoulrd try adding the comma again
[11:21] <Nameeater> yea you definately need the comma
[11:21] <Nameeater> let me show you my line
[11:22] <Ng> jimcooncat: "netstat --tcp -lp" or "lsof | grep LISTEN"
[11:22] <NoStress> Frogzoo: i'll try that this evening, thanks
[11:22] <jimcooncat> Ng: Thanks!
[11:22] <Madpilot> rewt_: yes, it is
[11:22] <Madpilot> !info amarok
[11:22] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[11:23] <rewt_> what all do i need?
[11:23] <rewt_> xine, engines gstreamer
[11:23] <rewt_> ?
[11:23] <Nameeater> rend: http://pastebin.com/554068   theres the whole damned xorg.conf file, have a look :)
[11:23] <rewt_> this will make my buttons work?
[11:23] <rend> Nameeater i have a working XF86Config-4 from my debian install
[11:24] <Nameeater> that should really be an nvidia card, I have no idea how the hell that ended up ATI :o
[11:24] <jimcooncat> Ng: turns out I was already connected! joke's on me.
[11:24] <Gourami> Is there a better option that Evolution because the support really seems to be weak !
[11:24] <Nameeater> oh wait
[11:24] <Nameeater> wrong box, lol
[11:25] <rend> Nameeater that looks like a single display setup
[11:25] <Ng> Gourami: some people prefer thunderbird
[11:25] <Nameeater> it was sorry, I was ssh'd into my server and forgot ;)
[11:25] <purplefeltangel> can someone tell me why Firefox keeps trying to save PHTML files instead of loading them?
[11:25] <Nameeater> http://pastebin.com/554071
[11:25] <Gourami> Ng is it in synaptic ? and can I install it without removing evolution ?
[11:26] <Ng> Gourami: yes and yes
[11:26] <Gourami> Ng thanks will look it up
[11:26] <dooglus> I found that when I close my laptop's lid, it goes to sleep properly now.
[11:26] <rewt_> what do i need for amarok? artf, engines, gstreamer and xne?
[11:26] <rewt_> do i need em all
[11:26] <dooglus> However, when it wakes up again in the morning, all the network services (vnc server, knockd, etc) have died.
[11:26] <rend> (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1680x1050" (no mode of this name)
[11:27] <dooglus> should I file bugs against each network service that dies?  or is this expected behaviour?
[11:27] <xerophyte> does the ubuntu forum has rss feed ?
[11:28] <rend> Nameeater: http://pastebin.com/554072
[11:28] <Madpilot> rewt_: just try isntalling amarok thru Synaptic, it should install whatever else it needs...
[11:29] <realflapjack> hello, i've the following problem: i can't play video dvds anymore. all codecs are installed.
[11:29] <Nameeater> rend: paste your whole xorg.conf for me
[11:29] <Frogzoo> dooglus: the time warp can sometimes cause problems - & yes it's a bug
[11:29] <rewt_> ok
[11:30] <Nameeater> realflapjack: you have libdvdcss2 ?
[11:30] <rewt_> damn 14 files
[11:30] <realflapjack> yes
[11:30] <rewt_> -.-
[11:30] <onkarshinde> How can I move my existing /home to a separate partition?
[11:30] <realflapjack> and libdvdread
[11:30] <Nameeater> odd
[11:30] <JoeBlow> should be little window
[11:30] <rewt_> whee's this install to
[11:30] <Nameeater> tried a different player?
[11:30] <rewt_> ?
[11:30] <rend> Nameeater: that maybe a little hard for me from the terminal
[11:30] <realflapjack> http://paste.husk.org/5181 (this is the fstab)
[11:30] <Nameeater> rend: ah.. hmm
[11:31] <Nameeater> have apache installed on that box? :|
[11:31] <rend> Nameeater you think i should have all the options in the device section?
[11:31] <rend> Nameeater behind a firewall
[11:31] <Nameeater> bugger
[11:31] <Nameeater> some of it depends on your card
[11:32] <rend> on debian i had it all in device
[11:32] <realflapjack> how can i change the regioncode for my dvd device
[11:32] <rend> but i just moved from screen back to device
[11:32] <Nameeater> you most definately need:  Option "ConnectedMonitor" "crt, crt" Option "TwinView" "1" Option "Metamodes" "1152x864,1152x864; 1024x,768,1024x768; 1152x864,NULL; 1024x768,NULL" and the two refresh rates
[11:32] <onkarshinde> realflapjack: 'regionset' (put a DVD in drive first)
[11:33] <onkarshinde> How can I move my existing /home to a separate partition?
[11:33] <rend> Nameeater my preferred res is 1680x1050 60 hz... on each monitor
[11:33] <Nameeater> well
[11:33] <Nameeater> change those lines as you see fit :P
[11:34] <Nameeater> but those are what you need
[11:34] <Nameeater> do you have  Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "31-80" and Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "56-80" there with that other stuff?
[11:35] <kwewu14> what's the best type of filesystem to store a large amount of mp3s on?
[11:35] <realflapjack> onkarshinde: when i put in a video dvd, i can change the region set, in case of a movie dvd it says: regionset version 0.1 -- reads/sets region code on DVD drives
[11:35] <realflapjack> ERROR: Could not open disc "(null)"!
[11:35] <realflapjack> Ensure that there is any readable CD or DVD in the drive.
[11:35] <rend> Nameeater i did have that before
[11:37] <Nameeater> I'm running out of ideas sorry rend
[11:37] <rend> Nameeater: weird..
[11:37] <rend> Nameeater: i got x to start now..
[11:37] <rend> both monitors go into powersave mode
[11:38] <Nameeater> with 1680 ?
[11:38] <Nameeater> :/
[11:38] <rend> not sure what res
[11:38] <Nameeater> refresh rate problem
[11:38] <Nameeater> out of range heh :/
[11:38] <rend> Nameeater but i heard the startup of x11 sound
[11:38] <Nameeater> sounds good
[11:38] <Nameeater> heh, what a pun ;)
[11:39] <Nameeater> have you tried looking for the manufacturers recomendations for the refresh rates? or are they annoying noname brands? or maybe you have the manuals! :o
[11:40] <jon_k> wow resumelabb.com will ehnance your resume for around 1200 US
[11:40] <rend> umm
[11:40] <rend> Nameeater this is dell..
[11:40] <rend> Nameeater recommended is 1680x1050 @60 hz
[11:40] <Nameeater> yea but thats not what you will put in the xorg.conf
[11:40] <Nameeater> :|
[11:40] <rend> dell 2005fpw
[11:41] <Nameeater> do you have 60 there atm?
[11:41] <kwewu14> so is kubuntu just ubuntu, but with a default of kde desktop instead of gnome?
[11:42] <rend> Nameeater in the terminal i do
[11:42] <Nameeater> i mean in your xorg.conf
[11:42] <Nameeater> Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "31-80"  is that 80 60 in your conf?
[11:43] <bnzbrll> hello
[11:43] <bnzbrll> anyone can help ? I need to get a wap key = wireless key
[11:44] <rend>         Option          "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-83"
[11:44] <Yokalosh> my drive sdb3 wont unmount, how can i force it to unmount?
[11:45] <Ng> Yokalosh: the easiest way is to kill whatever is using it, which you can find with "fuser -m /path/to/where/sdb3/is/mounted"
[11:45] <rend> Nameeater i just changed it to 60 and it wouldnt start
[11:45] <Frogzoo> Protocol1: hot damn - Doom2 is just like the real thing :D
[11:45] <Nameeater> did it also not start when it was something like 80?
[11:46] <bimberi> kwewu14: yes, essentially, they also have different application sets (which is probably obvious) :)
[11:46] <rewt_> grr how do i fix my volume buttons???
[11:46] <rewt_> aramark where?
[11:46] <steve60> hi there i would like to know has anyone got any information on Xsane / how to install it / are there any .deb files out there for it etc. etc..
[11:46] <Ng> steve60: it ought to be in the ubuntu repositories, so you can install it with synaptic or apt-get
[11:47] <Nameeater> steve60: apt-cache show xsane
[11:47] <steve60> the xsane i have installed is 0.97 but the newer version is 0.99
[11:47] <steve60> Syniptic shows Xsane as 0.97 and wont update iyt
[11:47] <steve60> it**
[11:48] <hatake_kakashi> anyone installed kubuntu 5.04? I just need the first line under /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <Nameeater> you will haev to either look in the backports/or ask if they can backport it (if there is a newer version being worked on for dapper) or probably compile it other wise
[11:48] <Nameeater> unless you can find some ubuntu packages made somewhere
[11:48] <Yokalosh> Ng: apparently it is not even mounted but according to my desktop and qtparted it is...
[11:48] <Yokalosh> Ng: this is confusing
[11:48] <rend> Nameeater want me to try pasting the x11 config in pastebin?
[11:49] <Nameeater> rend: ok
[11:49] <hatake_kakashi> noone running on Hoary Hedgehog?
[11:49] <Nameeater> !sourceomatic
[11:49] <ubotu> Nameeater: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:49] <Nameeater> hmm
[11:49] <steve60> i have tried sudo apt-get xsane
[11:50] <steve60> it comes up with invaild operation
[11:50] <Nameeater> you need install
[11:50] <Nameeater> sudo apt-get install xsane
[11:50] <renedox> what codec do I need to play .wmv files on vlc?
[11:51] <bimberi> steve60: sudo apt-get install xsane   (although it's usually installed by default)
[11:51] <hatake_kakashi> !wmv
[11:51] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:51] <Nameeater> !repos
[11:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:51] <Nameeater> hmm
[11:51] <renedox> anyone know?
[11:52] <rend> Nameeater:         #Option         "ConnectedMonitor" "crt, crt"
[11:52] <rend> that was causing my invisible display
[11:52] <rend> should it be lcd?
[11:52] <dark_light> does anyone know an app that converts wma on better formats like mp3 or ogg?
[11:52] <Nameeater> do you have an lcd screen? :/
[11:52] <bimberi> renedox: probably something in w32codecs ...
[11:52] <bimberi> !w32codecs
[11:52] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:52] <steve60> i have xsane installed the verion i want to get is 0.99 the one i have installed is 0.97
[11:52] <mwillis> Hello everyone!
[11:53] <mwillis> I want to try out dapper drake, is there a way to get a new root fs but share the /home partition?
[11:53] <steve60> is there any codec out there that will let me view WMV and WMA files on Ubuntu
[11:53] <Nameeater> rend: if you have an LC screen it will be DFP
[11:53] <mwillis> What is a good way to have two systems share the same information so that only the system changes?
[11:53] <dark_light> bimberi, i am using amd64 and i dont wanna install ugly 32-bits codecs
[11:53] <Nameeater> rend: Valid values for this option are "CRT" (cathode ray tube), "DFP" (digital
[11:53] <Nameeater>     flat panel), or "TV" (television); if using TwinView, this option may be a
[11:53] <Nameeater>     comma-separated list of display devices; e.g.: "CRT, CRT" or "CRT, DFP"
[11:53] <dark_light> bimberi, i wanna just a wma2mp3 program
[11:54] <gilles> xubuntu isn't in the reposit on breezy... ubuntu is really too slow on old iMacs
[11:54] <Contamination> Specs on iMac?
[11:54] <rend> Nameeater back to where i started now..
[11:55] <rend> both monitors working but the wrong resolution
[11:55] <Nameeater> heh
[11:55] <Nameeater> while your in the wrong resolution
[11:55] <Nameeater> paste the xorg.conf file for me :P
[11:55] <rend> ok. lemme get into x and then paste the config?
[11:55] <bimberi> dark_light: i don't know sorry
[11:55] <Nameeater> please :)
[11:55] <steve60> dark_light i think i saw something on the sinaptic package manager about wma2mp3 last night
 what do you mean ? it's an old iMac, orange
[11:55] <dark_light> bimberi, ok:)
[11:55] <bimberi> dark_light: btw my earlier posting was for renedox
[11:55] <trustychords> anyone have any tips for a nooob about setting up wpa_supplicant?
[11:56] <liquidindian> !wine
[11:56] <steve60> !codecs
[11:56] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:56] <dark_light> steve60, ahn..... tell me your sources
[11:56] <mwillis> Hey what's the problem gilles?
[11:56] <steve60> !easysource
[11:56] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:56] <Contamination> gilles: I have an old iMac that ran Ubuntu just fine. Which is why I was asking for the specs on your iMac.
[11:56] <mwillis> I just got done with many hardships on a tray-loading imac
 I don't know the specs...
[11:56] <dark_light> bimberi, heh
[11:56] <steve60> dark_light sources???
[11:57] <steve60> mate im new to all this
[11:57] <dark_light> steve60, repositories
[11:57] <bimberi> dark_light: :)
[11:57] <mwillis> Is it the old colorful one?
[11:57] <rend_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/oltcfe56.html
[11:57] <dark_light> you know, your sources.list..
[11:57] <mwillis> gilles: is it tray-loading?
[11:57] <rend> Nameeater: you see that?
[11:57] <steve60> wheres that then
[11:57] <steve60> lol
[11:57] <dark_light> steve60, huh?
[11:57] <dark_light> er.. /etc/apt/sources.list
 tray-loading?
[11:57] <mwillis> yeah
[11:58] <dark_light> paste on rafb.net/paste u_u
[11:58] <mwillis> gilles the cd rom
[11:58] <mwillis> gilles, does a tray come out?
 ubuntu breezy was installed on it
[11:58] <steve60> im just using the basic source list i presume i have not updated it at all im completely new to this mate i just know i glanced over it last night looking for something else
[11:58] <mwillis> gilles like this? http://www.cupertino.de/data/models/imac.gif
 i'm sorry, i don't understand your question... it boots fine, it's just very very slow
[11:59] <Contamination> You are aware that something is wrong in X.org that makes all iMac's operate incorrectly right?
[11:59] <dark_light> steve60, but.. there are no wma2mp3 here
[11:59] <Nameeater> rend: can you get one monitor working with 1680?
[11:59] <dark_light> :~~~~~~~~
[11:59] <mwillis> gilles and contamination: I have a xorg.conf that will work on my old imac
 yes, but orange (newer than this color)
[11:59] <steve60> i read over something that said that
[11:59] <steve60> one i'll look
[11:59] <mwillis> gilles, what happens when you start up?
[11:59] <rend_> Nameeater, yes, but only in single config
[12:00] <Nameeater> so it does work when theres just one screen?
[12:00] <Contamination> mwillis: Yes I know that there is a fix but I have a dead HD so it's no use to me right now.
[12:00] <rend_> Nameeater, once i add the meta modes it breaks
[12:00] <rend_> Nameeater, and reverts to something lower
[12:00] <mwillis> ahhh I see
[12:00] <Nameeater> hmm maybe your card can't deal with 2 similtaniously, does it work in windows?
 everything works fine at startup
[12:00] <rend_> Nameeater, it worked in debian!
[12:00] <Nameeater> or did it work before with the old xfree?
[12:00] <Nameeater> ah
 but slowly fine
[12:00] <Nameeater> hmm
[12:00] <sarra> yo. is there a n00bier channel than just #ubuntu? :)
[12:00] <Contamination> gilles: Have you tried ctrl C the "X Window System" during startup?
[12:01] <liquidindian> Is there a problem installing wine via automatix?
[12:01] <tiede> guys, I am out. I'll keep you posted on my ventures in gettign my Broadcom wireless card to work. Thanks everyone who helped me get this far.
[12:01] <rend_> Nameeater, my working config from debian http://rafb.net/paste/results/Vdprwx52.html
[12:01] <tiede> bye
[12:01] <Nameeater> rend_: unless your monitors can't handle it I would up the HorizSync       30-65 under monitor to 75
[12:01] <Contamination> gilles: If it flies to the login panel and upon logging in slows to almost a halt again your experiencing the same problems with X
[12:02] <Nameeater> hmm but it worked in xfree grr
[12:02] <Nameeater> :|
[12:02] <Nameeater> rend_: have you tried adding that mode line?
[12:02] <rend_> Nameeater, whicd mode line?
[12:03] <Nameeater> Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087
[12:03] <Nameeater> from your xfree config
[12:03] <rend_> already did
[12:03] <rend_> thats what i started it with now, i think
[12:03] <Nameeater> oh sorry, missed that
[12:03] <rend_> whats the name of the x11 log?
[12:03] <rend_> ill look for the ee that causes it to go down some resolution..
[12:03] <steve60> !codecs
[12:03] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:04] <Nameeater> /var/log/X.0.log or something of the like
[12:04] <steve60> !easysource
[12:04] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:04] <p0windah> whats the deal with Skype being so painfuly slow when its resized, etc ?
[12:05] <p0windah> is that something intrinsic to Qt apps under ubuntu or just skype ?
[12:05] <Nameeater> opera resizes fine, i'd say its skype
[12:06] <p0windah> ah ok
[12:06] <p0windah> sorta annoying, since its not really a complex app
[12:06] <p0windah> a list of contact names and a handful of icons..
[12:06] <rend_> Nameeater, a few sections from the log.. http://rafb.net/paste/results/5zoNSr58.html
 i'm sorry, i don't understand...
[12:06] <Nameeater> rend_ you have the lines Load"GLcore" and Load"dri" they really shouldn't be there
 i'm installing xubuntu to try
[12:07] <rend_> Nameeater, i also just found http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-03/5058.html
[12:07] <Contamination> gilles: In version 5.10 of Ubuntu there is an updated version of the X window System which does not configurate properly. Which causes the iMac to seem very sluggish.
[12:08] <Contamination> If you came from 5.0.4 you will understand what I mean.
[12:08] <Nameeater> rend_ interesting
[12:08] <tombs> hi all
 how to solve the problem ?
[12:09] <Nameeater> rend_: is that the problem or is it really running at a lower res?
[12:09] <Contamination> gilles: mwillis has the fix, he should tell you as I am also interested.
[12:09] <rend_> Nameeater, really running at the lower res
[12:09] <Nameeater> rend_: and don't forget to comment out those 2 lines :P
[12:09] <rend_> which 2 lines?
[12:09] <rend_> oh
[12:09] <rend_> already did
 will mwillis tell us now ?
[12:10] <Nameeater> kk, dunno if they would effect your problem
[12:10] <Contamination> gilles: I sure hope so he was just here a few minutes ago.
[12:10] <rend_> Nameeater, what did you think of those lines from the x log?
[12:10] <Nameeater> rend_: were there any (EE)'s in that x log at all?
[12:10] <rend_> Nameeater, dont think so
[12:10] <Nameeater> hmm
[12:15] <rend_> Nameeater, i made some more changes.. will be restarting x
[12:15] <Nameeater> rend_: unfortunately I can't help ya, have to go to bed now :( sorry
[12:15] <Nameeater> ok gl!
[12:15] <ferdl> greetings. I just installed ubuntu but it couldnt start the x window system (gdm)
[12:15] <ferdl> what can I do
[12:15] <rend> Nameeater this is such a freaking pita!
[12:15] <Nameeater> :(
[12:15] <Nameeater> are you using the latest drivers?
[12:16] <rend> Nameeater maybe not
[12:16] <ferdl> I dowloaded ubuntu yesterday
[12:16] <ferdl> >I assume yes
[12:16] <rend> Nameeater i didnt install from nvidia
[12:16] <Nameeater> rend: you should try those just incase
[12:16] <rend> i found a debian package
[12:16] <rend> it told me something about the kernel...
[12:16] <Nameeater> you shouldn't use debian packages heh
[12:16] <rend> and i didnt have it
[12:16] <Nameeater> debian packages can break things :P
[12:17] <rend> i mean ubuntu or whatever
[12:17] <YogSothoth> Hi!
[12:17] <YogSothoth> My user account (john) is part of the same group (www-data) that own the directory I want to write to. The directory has drwxrwxr-x permission, so any member of the www-data group should be able to write to, no? Well my user account john can't. Why?
[12:17] <Nameeater> !nvidia
[12:17] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:17] <ferdl> can anyone help me with my problem
[12:18] <gilles> mwillis? we need you...
[12:18] <rend> Nameeater i have nvidia-glx
[12:18] <ferdl> just installed ubuntu but it couldnt start x
[12:18] <MrFreeBird> hi guys. I have ubuntu installed in many machines on my office. I have Windows machines too. Unfortunately, I cant see windows machines via ubuntu.  Curiously, I have installed ubuntu in another office (a friend of mine), and there, I can see windows machines. Whats wrong?
[12:18] <Nameeater> follow that forums tutorial
[12:18] <Nameeater> its what i used
[12:18] <Nameeater> get the latest drivers from nvidia
[12:18] <Nameeater> and gl!
[12:18] <Nameeater> ;)
[12:19] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: probably at your workplace your windows machines are on different subnet/workgroup and/or have firewall on, check router and firewall settings
[12:19] <steve60> 1exit
[12:19] <steve60> !exit
[12:19] <ubotu> steve60: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:20] <rend> Nameeater thanks
[12:20] <MrFreeBird> sorry, the subnet, and workgroup is the same in all machines (I revised). And sorry again, there is no firewall installed on windows machines.
[12:20] <Contamination> gilles: "Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to NOT load the dri module--just put a hash mark (#) at the start of the line reading load dri. That may help. You lose acceleration but you probably aren't going to run anything that needs speed on a G3."
[12:21] <rend_> !nvidia
[12:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:21] <elkbuntu> mrfreebird, if they're xp sp2, then they do
[12:21] <hatake_kakashi> i.e ICF
[12:23] <MrFreeBird> one machine is winxp
 actually, it's for caro__, i'm gonna tell her...
[12:24] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: that's the only winxp machine at your workplace
[12:24] <hatake_kakashi> ?
[12:24] <MrFreeBird> yes
[12:24] <gilles> caro__: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:24] <MrFreeBird> 3 machines=ubuntu  1 machine=xp
[12:26] <anap> highvoltage, i'm trying to follow the instructions from this page, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=557274
[12:26] <anap> download a macro and put it in a folder in usr/share,
[12:26] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: first of all, does winxp have a share up? second, can winxp see all 3 ubuntu's shares?
[12:26] <liquidindian> Does anyone know how to burn mds files to CD?
[12:26] <anap> but i can't, it tells me i don't have permission, even though i have gone to a shell as root
[12:27] <anap> how do you change this so i can put files in /usr ?
[12:29] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, well. I forgot a detail : there is another linux machine with samba installed. It has many shares. Winxp can see it.
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> anap: unless that path is set as ro, you can write stuff as such
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: and what about that linux machine with samba installed, can it see winxp's shares?
[12:29] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, ubuntu machines cant see this samba shares
[12:30] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, this server machine does not have a monitor on it. Is a dedicated server
[12:30] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: maybe you need smbclient
[12:30] <hatake_kakashi> !info smbclient
[12:30] <ubotu> smbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2347 kB, Installed size: 5948 kB
[12:31] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, I have smbclient installed on my ubuntu machine
 she's rebooting the computer, i hope it will work better...
[12:31] <Contamination> good luck with that gilles
[12:31] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: so winxp can see that linux's box shares but not the ubuntu boxes?
[12:31] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, My ubuntu machine should see the other linux machine with samba shares
[12:32] <rewt_> sigh my buttons still dont work
[12:32] <rend> when i run the nvidia program i get No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel;
[12:32] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: and I assume those other linux machines with samba shares are actually sharing data with smbd as well nmbd installed?
[12:32] <Nameeater> rend: you need the kernel-header files ;)
[12:33] <rend> Nameeater whats the package name?
[12:33] <rend> 2.6.12-10-386
[12:33] <anap> hatake_kakashi, it is set up as read only for ;group', i.e. any one who is not owner, no?
[12:33] <Nameeater> linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:33] <anap> and i can;t change the permissions because 'you are not the owner'
[12:34] <rend> linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 ?
[12:34] <anap> but 'i' installed ubuntu on this computer and am the only user...
[12:34] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, nmbd is intalled and running
[12:34] <rend> ok
[12:34] <tristan> I have compiled a program with g77, anyone know how I can launch it?
[12:34] <ferdl> Greetings just installed ubuntu and it couldnt start x. I looked in the forum but couldnt find anything.
[12:34] <hatake_kakashi> anap: if you can't do it even with root, then imo, there is something wrong
[12:34] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: what about smbd for those machines?
[12:34] <tristan> my program is called NR, what should I type?
[12:35] <rend> weird. only downloading at 50kb
[12:35] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: you need both smbd and nmbd installed and running to be able to share the shares
[12:35] <anap> hatake_kakashi, thanks...
[12:36] <hatake_kakashi> anap: imo, root has control over any sort of restrictions imposed, by general means that is. If root cannot do it, then there is something not set up correctly.. maybe you have /usr as a different hdd/partition and that it is mounted as ro?
[12:36] <rend>   Could not compile gcc-version-check.c.  Please be sure you have your
[12:37] <anap> hatake_kakashi,  i do not have partitions or differeng hard drives
[12:37] <hatake_kakashi> anap: ok I presume / has mount settings as rw?
[12:37] <anap> i only have one hard drive ... i have no problems in directories like /home
[12:37] <captainredbeard> how to I get VLC to remember /dev/dvd for the open disc menu?
[12:38] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, lets simplify our lives. First of all. I wanna see linux machine with samba installed.
[12:38] <anap> hatake_kakashi, sorry for being to beginner here... you refer mount as the directory, mnt?
[12:39] <rend> Nameeater: The compiler used to compile the kernel was gcc 3.4; the current
[12:39] <rend>   compiler is gcc 4.0.
[12:39] <Nameeater> get gcc-3.4
[12:39] <Nameeater> and then do CC=gcc-3.4
[12:39] <Nameeater> then export CC
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: if you want to share your stuff on the network, you need to have both smbd and nmbd installed
[12:39] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, on linux server, nmbd and smbd are installed and running.  xp machine can see sahres
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> anap: no mount as in the program 'mount'
[12:40] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, now, back to my machine : smbd and nmbd are installed and running too
[12:40] <rend> lol. this system didnt even have make
[12:40] <malv> would it be wise to use inheritence to add functionality to a vector3 class?
[12:41] <rend> Nameeater finally installed the nvid driver from soure
[12:41] <ferdl> anyone willing to help me. I new to linux. just installed ubuntu and it could start x window system.
[12:41] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: and you cannot see the that server's shares?
[12:41] <rend> Nameeater guess what
[12:42] <Nameeater> rend: whee :) I really have to go to bed now, so gl!
[12:42] <Nameeater> wot?
[12:42] <MrFreeBird> yes
[12:42] <rend> 1680x1050 + 1680x1050
[12:42] <Nameeater> working?
[12:42] <rend> yep :)
[12:42] <Nameeater> w00h00
[12:42] <rend> i owe you 2 beers
[12:42] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: check that you have smbclient, check your firewall configuration
[12:42] <Nameeater> if only i could drink em ;)
[12:42] <Nameeater> gnight
[12:42] <rend> Nameeater so now i just know a ton more about x11 options
[12:42] <rend> thanks
[12:43] <_axel> is there any howto on installing Xgl without upgrading to dapper?
[12:43] <MrFreeBird> firewall on my ubuntu machine? how can I see that?
[12:43] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: iptables -L
[12:43] <anap> hatake_kakashi, if it is the mount executable file in bin, it is read and executable for group and others, but only write by owner
[12:44] <hatake_kakashi> anap: what I mean is type 'mount| grep /'
[12:44] <hatake_kakashi> anap: and tell me the output of that
[12:44] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, where can I post the output?
[12:45] <anap> ah sorry hatake_kakashi
[12:45] <hatake_kakashi> !tell MrFreeBird about pastebin
[12:45] <hatake_kakashi> anap: np
[12:46] <anap> hatake_kakashi, i have put it in a private window
[12:47] <liquidindian> I have a CDR showing on my desktop.  Where can I find it in the filesystem?
[12:48] <foxpaul> does anyone have an idea what might be going wrong here? i'm trying to setup a mail server, but when ever i try to send mail to anywhere, the recipients server refuses the connection
[12:50] <liquidindian> If it's showing on my desktop, does that mean it must be mounted somewhere?
[12:50] <_mindspin> foxpaul: that's a little too unspecific
[12:50] <hatake_kakashi> liquidindian: no
[12:51] <hatake_kakashi> liquidindian: you have to double click on it which opens up browser and then mounts it
[12:51] <liquidindian> Ah.  So how do I tell which dev it is?
[12:51] <Madeye> guys, what should I install -> configure: error: No C# compiler found
[12:51] <_mindspin> mono?
[12:52] <farous> Madeye: install build-essential
[12:52] <Madeye> farous, all installed and newest version
[12:52] <farous> Madeye: check also which gcc the package needs
[12:52] <instabin> Dapper is the new ubuntu right?
[12:52] <_mindspin> c# is .net isnt it?
[12:52] <Ng> !dapper
[12:52] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable so if you must use it please help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[12:53] <Ng> _mindspin: .net can run multiple languages, of which C# is one
[12:53] <instabin> thank you
[12:53] <hatake_kakashi> liquidindian: by default it is /media/cdrom0 but I do not know where you have plugged your cdrom into, so you need to do cat /etc/fstab| grep cdrom
[12:53] <liquidindian> I've found it.
[12:53] <_mindspin> what else can run c#?
[12:54] <ptlo> _mindspin: mono
[12:54] <_mindspin> ;-)
[12:54] <ptlo> ah!
[12:54] <ptlo> Madeye: mono
[12:54] <ptlo> :-)
[12:55] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, I installed webboard on ubuntu. When I execute it, nothing happens. Strange
[12:55] <Madeye> ptlo,  already have mono
[12:55] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, should I restart ubuntu?
[12:55] <NoStress> my guitar can do some c# too :)
[12:56] <elkbuntu> lol@NoStress
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: wth?
[12:56] <interface> fuck yo all motherfuckers
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: aren't you trying to get samba working, what's this to do with webboard?
[12:56] <ptlo> Madeye: maybe the configure can't find it? what does configure.log say? is the compiler 'try: mcs' in your path?
[12:56] <elkbuntu> o.O interface
[12:56] <_mindspin> thought it goes like #c
[12:56] <interface> your mother's cock is very long and you all suckat it!!!
[12:56] <Ng> !ops
[12:56] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[12:56] <elkbuntu> seveas
[12:57] <hatake_kakashi> !ops interface is abusive
[12:57] <ubotu> okay, hatake_kakashi
[12:57] <Ng> interface: you have surprisingly good grammar for a 12 year old
[12:57] <interface> fuck you and shutup cocksuckers
[12:57] <elkbuntu> ffs, someone pwn his little pre-pubescent ass
[12:58] <interface> eat your mothers cock
[12:58] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, sorry. I just wanted to send you my output from iptables
[12:58] <beanmix> :>
[12:58] <Ng> elkbuntu: I asked for ops, if there aren't any about we have to go find a freenode oper or /ignore his feebleness
[12:58] <interface> bitches
[12:58] <MrFreeBird> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[12:58] <MrFreeBird> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: you output that in terminal, copy and paste that onto pastebin's website
[12:58] <interface> assholes
[12:58] <interface> niggas
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> err.. hopefully not here MrFreeBird
[12:58] <MrFreeBird> sorry
[12:59] <interface> i will kill your mothers and dads!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <interface> gsiichters
[12:59] <liable> interface: fuck off.
[12:59] <beanmix> gr8... i've joined a new server and have some1 on ignore already...
[12:59] <interface> ihr apes
[12:59] <beanmix> afternoon to the rest of the peeps
[12:59] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, have you seen the output?
[12:59] <farous> liable just use /ignore interface thank god for that command
[12:59] <Dead_Hamster_Soc> urg @ nick length limit
[01:00] <interface> liable your mother stinks like the shit froma cow
[01:00] <liable> farous: no, thats what ops are supposed to be for.
[01:00] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: I cannot see it if you did not paste it onto pastebin and copy and paste back the url to me
[01:00] <_mindspin> ignore is cool
[01:00] <farous> liable seems noe is here now so easier to ignore
[01:00] <interface> Mr_Freebird you are gay
[01:00] <liable> lilo?
[01:00] <foxpaul> _mindspin, i'm not very useful at this level of linux admin :) which specifics do you think would help debug the problem?
[01:00] <Juhaz> liable, sure, but in the meanwhile, encouraging him and adding to the trash with replies doesn't help
[01:01] <interface> farous you bitchmanfuckerindahouse
[01:01] <hatake_kakashi> Juhaz: hence the 'do not feed the troll' ;)
[01:01] <MrFreeBird> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8642
[01:01] <interface> juhaz isadead person
[01:01] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8642
[01:01] <_mindspin> foxpaul:  "/var/mail.info" would be a start if you are using postfix
[01:01] <interface> you shitty guy are gay!!!! fuck your dad
[01:02] <_mindspin> what do want to with the mailserver
[01:02] <interface> Hold the fress indsapess
[01:02] <interface> you child of an ape!!!!"!!"!!
[01:02] <_mindspin> oops "/var/log/mail.info
[01:02] <_mindspin> oops "/var/log/mail.info"
[01:02] <interface> kind your aSS
[01:03] <interface> ASSHOLES NIIIGGGGGGAAAASSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:03] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, Hera my smb.conf on my ubuntu machine   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8643
[01:04] <kbrooks> !ops
[01:04] <ubotu> I heard ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[01:04] <beanmix> interesting nicks
[01:04] <Minos> oh damn
[01:04] <mwillis> gilles, you still there?
[01:04] <Charon> damn
[01:05] <kbrooks> has interface been banned yet? doesnt look like it
[01:05] <kbrooks> !ops troll
[01:05] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[01:05] <mwillis> gilles, sorry I was working on my install
[01:05] <_mindspin> who's interface?
[01:05] <_mindspin> :-)
[01:05] <liable> kbrooks: more than one ops wont help
[01:05] <Ng> _mindspin: some little german kid it would seem
[01:05] <farous> :)
[01:05] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: for some reason the internet at my end is not loading sites up
[01:05] <liable> kbrooks: they are highlighted if they are up or care to look.
[01:05] <foxpaul> _mindspin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8645
[01:06] <_mindspin> interface is german?
[01:06] <Ng> _mindspin: it's on a german host afaics
[01:06] <Ng> _mindspin: and I'm assuming from the attitude that it's about 12 ;)
[01:06] <kbrooks> ng: do i look like 14
[01:06] <_mindspin> no his level in english says 14
[01:07] <hatake_kakashi> _mindspin: that user could also be running through proxy
[01:08] <vladuz976> what's the executable for easyubuntu
[01:08] <_mindspin> foxpaul: I have no glue on sendmail, I would switch to postfix...
[01:08] <Charon> oi vey
[01:09] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, this my linux server config http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8646
[01:09] <_mindspin> how can I remove someone from the ignore list ? ;-)
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> _mindspin: depending on irc client
[01:09] <kbrooks> interface, go away.
[01:09] <_mindspin> haha konversation
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> _mindspin: hmm not sure about that one I'm afraid.. I'm using irssi now
[01:10] <_mindspin> interface, geh mal jetzt Hausaufgaben machen .....
[01:10] <Arhceron> grrrr
[01:10] <elkbuntu> lol what did you say _mindspin?
[01:11] <_mindspin> I said he should leave and start doing his homework
[01:11] <bigfoot1> amphi. hi. it's mr 'i have a prob with mplayer guy'. i have some news
[01:11] <yanimax> with totem on dapper, i get the following error msg: Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 VBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[01:11] <elkbuntu> lol
[01:11] <yanimax> what package do i need to install ?
[01:11] <bigfoot1> guys, what's the diff between mplayer-386 and mplayer-586? which of the 2 do you guys have?
[01:11] <miL> Hi
[01:11] <miL> Whichever time takes in making all the Ubuntu Linux installation? 2 hours around?
[01:12] <hatake_kakashi> !tell yanimax about mp3
[01:12] <kbrooks> interface, go away now.
[01:12] <kbrooks> sociopath, no really.
[01:12] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: 586 is more optimised for faster computers, but you need P Pro or better
[01:12] <Ng> miL: on a decent computer with a decent internet connection it can be as little as 30 minutes
[01:12] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi:how do i now what i have?
[01:12] <elkbuntu> yay thanks seveas
[01:12] <Cerberus> oh ffs
[01:13] <kbrooks> Seveas, thank you
[01:13] <bigfoot1> how do i know what pentium i have? (newbie alert)
[01:13] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: dpkg --list| grep mplayer
[01:13] <miL> Ng intel centrino 2ghz & Internet connection 2 mbps
[01:13] <Seveas> kbrooks, were ther more?
[01:13] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:13] <Ng> miL: I'd hope that'd be less than an hour
[01:13] <kbrooks> Seveas, just interface
[01:13] <Seveas> k
[01:13] <Ng> ta Seveas :)
[01:13] <miL> Ng .. no
[01:13] <hatake_kakashi> Seveas: thanks
[01:13] <SAAD3000> does Ubuntu supports firewalled routers?
[01:13] <miL> :/
[01:13] <miL> Im installing CD
[01:13] <Seveas> SAAD3000, yes
[01:13] <hatake_kakashi> SAAD3000: I don't see why not
[01:13] <miL> iso install
[01:14] <miL> and yet 1 hour..
[01:14] <Ng> miL: where abouts in the install is it?
[01:14] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi I have pentium(R) III CPU  1200MHz. is this good enough to use mplayer-586?
[01:14] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: hell yes
[01:14] <_mindspin> sounds like a corrupted cd
[01:15] <Seveas> bigfoot1, more than enough :)
[01:15] <Seveas> bigfoot1, -586 starts from the pentiun 1 :)
[01:15] <SAAD3000> I can connect thru XP but I can't connect thru Ubuntu!
[01:15] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: oh. thanks. So, i'll remove mplayer 386, and install 586. will there be a difference? You see, I'm having problems with mplayer386.
[01:15] <bigfoot1> Seveas: oh, i see
[01:16] <liquidindian> miL:  to get the basics up and running, it took me less than an hour, and I know nothing.  Be prepared to lose lots of time to fiddling with things, though.
[01:16] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: well, you may have it somewhat faster imo
[01:16] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: wakarimashita
[01:17] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: sorry. i thought you were japanese
[01:17] <miL> liquidindian "Instalando paquetes de instalacin" 5% and... dont move
[01:17] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: wakarimasu.. iie.. chotto nihongo wakarimasu
[01:17] <SAAD3000> any developer here?
[01:17] <bigfoot1> cool
[01:17] <hatake_kakashi> ahh fsck I made a mistake, but oh well, bigfoot1 :)
[01:17] <SAAD3000> I really like ubuntu I don't want to remove it..
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have an "intersting " (IE irritatting) problem - Gnome has a virtual proxy set at 192.168.0.30, which suffs up my apt-get commands. i just turned off network proxy - do i have to restart Gnome? or will it kick in later?
[01:18] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: i don't see any problems
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: I'm not sure your question about routers
[01:18] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: wakarimasu means understand, you said you understood, I should say ok or something :)
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> and try not to emoti8onaly blackmail people :|
[01:18] <liquidindian> Argh.  Please don't speak Japanese.  I have enough of Japanese all day.  ;)
[01:18] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: you said you understood, I said understand
[01:19] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser I have set the settings exactly as in XP on ubuntu and yet i can't connect.
[01:19] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser sooo weird..
[01:19] <miL> hg do you speak in spanish?
[01:19] <_mindspin> miL: I guess your cd is corrupted, I had that before.. try burning it with lower speed
[01:19] <liquidindian> hatake:  daijobu desu means okay.
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: i don't understand your setup - could you give us a bit more info?
[01:19] <hatake_kakashi> liquidindian: yeah, I should have said that :)
[01:19] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: actually, i can't tell the diff in usage between the 2. I usually hear wakarimashita. but i think wakarimasu is fine, too. I'll ask tomorrow at work.
[01:19] <yanimax> hatake_kakashi: it doesn't work for dapper, nothing is in the universe/multiverse repositories
[01:19] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: aahh, the joys of being in Japan.
[01:19] <liquidindian> bigfoot1  One is past tense.
[01:20] <birlik> how can we open .eml files in linux(eml is a aadress format for outlook)
[01:20] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser sure am behind a proxy and my gateway is as the same as the dns and i can't ping it on ubuntu and on xp.
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: heh, d*mn you will learn faster then
[01:20] <liquidindian> bigfoot1 where are you?
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> but liquidindian is right on that bigfoot1
[01:20] <bigfoot1> Seveas: so do you recommend i just get mplayer-586? Coz when i do search in synaptic for "mplayer" i see so many options
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> yanimax: you may need to compile that from source, or use mplayer, etc
[01:20] <miL> I believe that I am in completes phrase where it puts Installing packages.  The computer already has reinitiated to me and it has said to me that it retires the CD
[01:20] <bigfoot1> liquidindian: kyushu.
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: so you have {internet}-{modem}-{proxy}-{client}?
[01:20] <bigfoot1> liquidindian: i know that
[01:21] <bigfoot1> liquidindian: i know that one is past, the other is present, but usage-wise, it seems one can be replaced with the other.
[01:21] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser no (internet)-{nic}-proxy- client
[01:21] <bigfoot1> liquidindian: i'll ask a Nihonjin tomorrow
[01:21] <Ng> guys if you want to talk about japanese, please use #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[01:21] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: well I thought you asked understood, and I typed understand
[01:21] <Heretic> i got nforce4 ultra motherboard chipset do i have install the chipset drivers for linux?
[01:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: and the client cant ping out past the proxy? have you tried system -> network proxy settings?
[01:22] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: no, i didn't ask. i declared my understanding.
[01:22] <miL> _mindspin yesterday I burned Kubuntu (not Ubuntu) whit other computer and it happened the same
[01:22] <liquidindian> bigfoot1 Sorry, you probably know much more than me about nihongo.  I can't figure it out either with Arigatou Gozaimasu and Gozaimashita.  Nice and warm down there?  I'm up north in Iwate.
[01:22] <hatake_kakashi> Heretic: if you want various functions, imo yes
[01:22] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: yeah which was why I later wrote my mistake but oh well
[01:22] <bigfoot1> guys, what mplayer file do you recommend i get? SHould i just get mplayer-586? Coz when i do search in synaptic for "mplayer" i see so many options.
[01:22] <Heretic> ahhh ok thanks :)
[01:22] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: just get mplayer-586
[01:22] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser sure i tried that still nothing.
[01:22] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: Ima wakarimasita.
[01:23] <Ng> liquidindian: bigfoot1: hatake_kakashi: I mean yous :p
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: strange. i havent tried to set that up yet, so I'm not sure where to look.
[01:23] <hatake_kakashi> Ng: I'm already there, but they aren't there :)
[01:23] <bigfoot1> Ng: yeah we'll stop.
[01:23] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser am telling u exactly the same settings configured under xp but no internet :(
[01:23] <liquidindian> Ng Gomen Nasai.
[01:23] <bigfoot1> liquidindian:  ha ha. stop
[01:23] <Ng> bigfoot1: I don't mean stop, by all means chat away, but -offtopic is for chatting :)
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: :( can you ping by ip past the proxy?
[01:23] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser I thought from the linux, i installed SuSE and it worked fine.
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> or can you not connect places at all
[01:23] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser No i can;t
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, so it's ubuntu only?
[01:24] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser yah!
[01:24] <SAAD3000> seems so.
[01:24] <erick> #surabaya
[01:24] <bigfoot1> guys, i just installed mplayer-586. how come i don't see it in my menu/Sound&Video ?
[01:24] <miL> anap hola
[01:24] <bigfoot1> doesn't mplayer-586 come with GUI? I want to avoid terminal/cli
[01:25] <anap> ah hola
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. SAAD3000 so your dns is ok? (sorry, but i have no idea what could cause your isues)
[01:25] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: more or less
[01:25] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser yah!
[01:25] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: it should be ran in terminal, whenever you want to see movies, etc, that's where the GUI part kicks in imo
[01:25] <Ng> bigfoot1: gmplayer does :)
[01:25] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser man I really liked ubuntu :( too bad to remove it.
[01:26] <bigfoot1> Ng:  what's the diff between gmplayer and mplayer-586?
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: yeh :( fraid i cant help. if you try <insert other time> you might get more luck
[01:26] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser might it be from the kernel?
[01:26] <bigfoot1> Ng:  i did a synaptic search for gmplayer. nothing
[01:26] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: maybe gmplayer is mplayer front end?
[01:27] <Ng> bigfoot1: it should be included in the mplayer package - it's just a graphical front end :)
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: maybe, but i would be very supprised. i'm more inclidned to suspect a Gnome/nnetworking issue
[01:27] <bigfoot1> Ng: what do youmean included?
[01:27] <bigfoot1> Ng:  i just instnalled from synaptic.
[01:28] <SAAD3000> Kamping_Kaiser do you know any developer here who could offer his help, i got resolve.cong/ifconfig/route pasted on the bin http and everything seems fine.
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> what the? this thinks i have a modem connection o_0
[01:28] <Ng> bigfoot1: as in, it's in the mplayer-586 package
[01:28] <bigfoot1> Ng: so how does a newbie get to work with gui?
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> SAAD3000: try in -devel, but they might bite your head if they are in  abad mood ;)
[01:28] <SAAD3000> lol
[01:28] <Ng> bigfoot1: Applications->Sound & Video->Mplayer :)
[01:29] <bigfoot1> Ng: It's not there!
[01:29] <bigfoot1> Ng: that's what i was trying to tell you.
[01:29] <Ng> bigfoot1: you might need to log out, the menus don't always update immediately. you could run gmplayer from a terminal though
[01:30] <IdleOne> is there any other program i can use for burning besides k3b ( wich doesnt see my burner ) and gnomebaker ( wich keeps ejecting the cd asking for a cd ) ?
[01:31] <bigfoot1> Ng: ok. um, i get an error: "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)" WHat do i do? WHat's wrong?
[01:32] <Ng> bigfoot1: that's mplayer being stupid, just copy a ttf font to that filename and it'll shut up
[01:32] <Seveas> :)
[01:32] <bigfoot1> Ng: i hate stupid programs.
[01:32] <bigfoot1> Ng: let's smarten it up
[01:33] <Ng> bigfoot1: then prepare to hate mplayer a lot ;)
[01:33] <bigfoot1> Ng: what exactly do i do.
[01:33] <bigfoot1> Ng: you mean the stupidity doesn't stop with this problem?
[01:33] <Ng> bigfoot1: cp /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/Vera.ttf ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf
[01:33] <Ng> I think that should work on a standard install
[01:34] <bigfoot1> maybe mplayer will be smarter in 2 months!!! (in dapper days). What do you guys think?
[01:34] <Ng> bigfoot1: mplayer concentrates on supporting lots of video formats more than it concentrates on being well written ;)
[01:34] <bigfoot1> Ng: i wish they kept one eye on each.
[01:34] <bigfoot1> Ng: does the font file change how my font in mplayer or gmplayer willl look? Coz if it will, i should pick a very readable font.
[01:35] <kwewu14> how do i use cdrecord to burn the ubuntu iso?
[01:35] <Ng> bigfoot1: its the font mplayer will use for subtitles
[01:35] <bigfoot1> Ng: is vera a nice font?
[01:35] <Ng> bigfoot1: I think so
[01:35] <bigfoot1> ng. ok. i did the command.
[01:36] <bigfoot1> now. i shoudl tell you what i want to do with mplayer. I have a small list of .ram and .rm files. They are streaming files. I heard that mplayer can save the audio onto my harddrive
[01:36] <Storkme> hi, i just installed the AMD64 K8 SMP kernel, but it's not showing up on my grub list :|
[01:36] <irvin> Storkme: how did you install it?
[01:37] <bigfoot1> guys, i'm in "man". how do i do a search inside the "man"?
[01:37] <bllx> anyone know how to remove the bootstrap partition from a disk that had Ubuntu installed? I formated it but the bootstrat part is still there
[01:38] <Storkme> irvin, through synaptic
[01:38] <kwewu14> what advantages if any does jfs have over reiserfs?
[01:39] <bigfoot1> Ng: what do you suggest i do to get mplayer to save a streaming audio file onto my hard drive?
[01:39] <bigfoot1> the above question is for anyone in the know, by the way.
[01:39] <irvin> Storkme: have you rebooted already?
[01:39] <bllx> I formated it using os X disk util, and then also with Ubuntu install CD
[01:40] <Storkme> yes irvin
[01:40] <bllx> bootstrap part remains
[01:40] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: I think its -savedump afterwards, you will get a file that is either save.dump or dump.save.. rename that to the correct extension and you are set
[01:40] <Tr0glodyt> bllx fdisk /mbr
[01:41] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: please teach me (aka ignoramus) the exact command.
[01:41] <bllx> whats that do Trog?
[01:41] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: mplayer -savedump <url>
[01:41] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: fyi, google is your friend in times of when there's no answer :)
[01:42] <Tr0glodyt> bllx that formats your mbr
[01:42] <bllx> mbr?
[01:42] <Tr0glodyt> master boot record
[01:42] <bllx> ah k thanks
[01:42] <Tr0glodyt> i think that's what you're trying to do
[01:42] <bllx> i want to zap the whole thing reel good
[01:43] <bllx> better than other format tools ive tried can
[01:43] <IdleOne> is there any other program i can use for burning besides k3b ( wich doesnt see my burner ) and gnomebaker ( wich keeps ejecting the cd asking for a cd ) ?
[01:43] <Tr0glodyt> like you want to just erase your drive?
[01:43] <ChibiFirli> yay for live cd :D
[01:43] <IdleOne> want to burn an iso
[01:43] <bllx> yes
[01:43] <bllx> completely
[01:43] <ChibiFirli> I crashed my OS :p
[01:44] <Tr0glodyt> go to your drive manufacturer's website and download a drive zero utility
[01:44] <Tr0glodyt> that'll get rid of everything
[01:44] <hatake_kakashi> bllx: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<hard disk here>
[01:44] <bllx> hatake what that do?
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> bllx: sends garbled stuff to the device that you want.. rendering it literally unreadable, unless you install, etc
[01:45] <Heretic> how to upgrade kernel from 2.6.12 to 2.6.15?
[01:45] <bllx> ah k
[01:45] <Heretic> do i have to compile ?
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> Heretic: if its not in the repos, yes you may have to either enable dapper (becareful) just for the kernel or download/configure/compile/install
[01:46] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: i'm looking at "man mplayer". do you think you mean -dumpstream or -dumpaudio?
[01:47] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: -dumpstream usually dumps the video and the audio into one file. I did it before for a ram file, which came out as rm file instead
[01:47] <bllx> Trog: its an external firewire Im trying to erase...so fdisk /dev/sda /mbr  ?
[01:47] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: you're saying that your experience with -dumpstream didn't work?
[01:47] <Tr0glodyt> bllx, try it and see
[01:48] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: no I'm saying that for my instance, where I wanted to get the video and audio of it saved onto my hard disk did work
[01:48] <Heretic> too bloody risky to compile the kernel?
[01:48] <Ng> Heretic: do you need to upgrade the kernel?
[01:48] <darnellkeith_> anyone have a creative live webcam?
[01:48] <Ng> Heretic: because yes it will involve compiling your own
[01:48] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: so you used -dumpstream. but you recommended -savedump
[01:48] <Tr0glodyt> bllx, fdisk is a dos util
[01:48] <bllx> well im reading man fdisk first
[01:48] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: were you just guessing on -savedump?
[01:49] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: i've tried -dumpstream but i get error
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: actually, correction, you got me round there.. its -savedump
[01:50] <elkbuntu> darnellkeith_ InnerF|RE no, but why do you ask?
[01:50] <InnerF|RE> having a little trouble with getting it to work
[01:50] <InnerF|RE> just installed ubuntu..
[01:51] <elkbuntu> InnerF|RE, if you're looking for the driver, spca5xx driver should play nice
[01:51] <InnerF|RE> thats what i downloaded..
[01:51] <bigfoot1> hey guys, how do i do a text search inside a "man" file. I'm running man mplayer.
[01:51] <Ng> bigfoot1: /
[01:51] <InnerF|RE> i get an error that says glibc detected double free or corrupt
[01:51] <elkbuntu> InnerF|RE, via apt/synaptic?
[01:51] <bigfoot1> Ng:  thanks
[01:51] <InnerF|RE> no..
[01:51] <InnerF|RE> from some website
[01:52] <bigfoot1> Ng: it does'nt work
[01:52] <snorkel> D
[01:52] <bnzbrll> anyone can help ? I need to get a wap key = wireless key
[01:52] <snorkel> Does anyone know a trick to restore a default desktop?
[01:52] <bnzbrll> tried that distro
[01:52] <Ng> bigfoot1: it really does, you hit / and then type what you want to search for and hit enter
[01:52] <snorkel> I have messed up my desktop. I cant move or drag windows etc.
[01:53] <elkbuntu> InnerF|RE, do it from synaptic
[01:53] <bigfoot1> Ng: ok. it worked. i guess it doesn't do a backwards search?
[01:53] <Ng> bigfoot1: correct. ? does backwards search
[01:53] <Al-Daja> i don't have libdl-dev in my ubuntu what i should do?
[01:53] <bllx> Tr0g: man fdisk doesnt mention /mbr
[01:54] <Tr0glodyt> hte mbr option is undocumented
[01:55] <curuptura> hi channel
[01:55] <Tr0glodyt> but trust me it cleans ot your mbr just nicely
[01:55] <curuptura> iam seeking help with the turboprint driver
[01:55] <bigfoot1> Ng:  i'm having so much trouble trying to save a streaming RealAudio flie with mplayer. can you please guide me with one file? then i can do it by myself with the rest
[01:55] <InnerF|RE> k
[01:55] <InnerF|RE> am i searching for that file?
[01:55] <InnerF|RE> or...?
[01:56] <elkbuntu> go to synaptic and search for spca5xx
[01:56] <InnerF|RE> k
[01:56] <elkbuntu> oh drat... wait a sec..
[01:56] <elkbuntu> what distro?
[01:57] <hatake_kakashi> is there a possibility to make apt-get download one file at a time and to resume download even if there is an error with the connection for a short time?
[01:57] <elkbuntu> i mean, which version?
[01:57] <Ng> bigfoot1: 'fraid not, never done it. have you asked google?
[01:57] <bigfoot1> ng. nope
[01:57] <Ng> bigfoot1: asking google should be the first resort, not the last :)
[01:58] <InnerF|RE> hrm..
[01:58] <InnerF|RE> i dont think its finding anything
[01:58] <nlx> hellllo
[01:58] <bigfoot1> ng. okay. i thought you had experience
[01:58] <elkbuntu> yeah seems to not be in non-dapper repos
[01:58] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: did my suggestion not help at all?
[01:58] <Al-Daja> i don't have libdl-dev in my ubuntu what i should do?
[01:58] <bigfoot1> does anybody here have experience with saving (RealAudio) streaming audio in ubuntu?
[01:59] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: what was your suggestion?
[01:59] <bigfoot1> Ng: i'm looking at google now
[01:59] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: mplayer -savedump <url>
[01:59] <InnerF|RE> any ideas?
[01:59] <elkbuntu> InnerF|RE, try this: http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/124-Webcam-installation-scripts.html
[01:59] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: oh wait.. I recalled you need to get another player such as vlc to give you that rtsp location
[01:59] <nlx> did you know where i can fing drivers for nvidia vga dx9 ?
[01:59] <hatake_kakashi> is there a possibility to make apt-get download one file at a time and to resume download even if there is an error with the connection for a short time?
[02:00] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: Unknown option on the command line: -savedump
[02:00] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: you recalled from yesterday/night's chat?
[02:01] <InnerF|RE> k thanx man
[02:01] <InnerF|RE> ill see how it goes
[02:01] <snorkel> is there a possibility to restore to a default X session? I was stupid to messed up my desktop
[02:01] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: odd, maybe you have an older version of mplayer, I tried the latest one, but I compiled it myself along with getting all those other bits and pieces of extension myself from the universe/multiverse places
[02:01] <curuptura> anyone know or used the turboprint printer driver ?
[02:01] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: I didn't see that error there
[02:02] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: you mean -savedump works with you?
[02:02] <pjpeter2005> hi can anyone help me i can't login to my ubuntu computer error is GDM could not write to your authoristion file
[02:02] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: how could that be?
[02:02] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: i'm using mplayer-586 (from synaptic).
[02:02] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: can you try one file for me, please?
[02:02] <nlx> did you know where i can fing drivers for nvidia vga dx9 ?
[02:02] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: like I said, read above, I was using the latest source at that time
[02:03] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: well, not really, I did yet another reinstall and I cannot use apt-get because its already being used
[02:03] <feistel> hi
[02:03] <elkbuntu> InnerF|RE, you might need to install the headers for your kernel, not sure with that script, never used it
[02:03] <feistel> I need help
[02:03] <feistel> please!
[02:04] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: please tell me what "bits and pieces" from universe/mulitverse i should get.
[02:04] <feistel> I need a guide or how-to, to make a ubuntu based distribution (like Kubuntu)
[02:04] <feistel> anyone can help me?
[02:04] <IdleOne> how do i get the ip for my pc from command line?
[02:04] <goki-> ipconfig
[02:04] <IdleOne> command not found
[02:04] <snorkel> ifconfig eth0
[02:04] <feistel> IdleOne: ifconfig
[02:04] <feistel> IdleOne: ifconfig -a
[02:05] <snorkel> better
[02:05] <IdleOne> ty feistel
[02:06] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: when I compiled it, I saw the output of what was config spat out to get support on, it also shows ones that it cannot support, from there, I got the necessary files which was painstaking, looking for each and individual one.. after certain amount is done, I go back to config to see what else is missing and keep going on until I got as much packages as I need to get almost all of the functionality
[02:06] <hatake_kakashi> its not easy, it takes lots of time to do so
[02:06] <miL> Whatever takes in settling the Linux Ubuntu absolutely?  I have been more than one hour already hoping
[02:07] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: do i need to compile?
[02:07] <InnerF|RE> elkbuntu..
[02:07] <InnerF|RE> no go
[02:07] <bigfoot1> bigfoot1: no, i'm not asking your help with apt-get. What i'm asking you is to get one streaming audio file for me.
[02:07] <_jason> hatake_kakashi: apt-get build-dep mplayer-386, should get you most of them
[02:07] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: well if results for google does not show up you can savedump with mplayer (version) then yes
[02:07] <_jason> bigfoot1: what are you tring to play?
[02:08] <hatake_kakashi> _jason: well, bigfoot1 is having a trouble with saving of rm streamed files
[02:08] <bigfoot1> _jason: hi. a realuaudio streaming fgile
[02:08] <hamai> php
[02:08] <feistel> is a way of make more verbose the logs of Ubuntu installer?
[02:08] <_jason> bigfoot1: does it play? (ie not trying to streamdump)
[02:08] <IdleOne> does anybody know why gnomebaker ejects cd and asks me to enter cd in drive..over and over and over?
[02:08] <bigfoot1> _jason yes. i can play it nicely in realPLayer. but i can't seem to save
[02:08] <pjpeter2005> guess nobody gets this error in ubuntu
[02:08] <_mindspin> bigfoot1: what about downloading the file with wget and playing it from local?
[02:08] <_jason> bigfoot1: -dumpstream, i think
[02:09] <pjpeter2005> guess i have totally install again\
[02:09] <IdleOne> pjpeter2005:  ask again
[02:10] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: i tried w-get. it doesn't seem to work
[02:10] <bigfoot1> maybe this particular RealAudio file is "cloaked"
[02:10] <kafeine> does anyone have an idea where can i get a ccd2iso .deb from?
[02:10] <_jason> bigfoot1: can you paste a link, or is it not public?
[02:10] <bigfoot1> _jason: it's public.
[02:11] <bigfoot1> _jason: http://66.89.75.168:8080/ramgen/zoe/Wonderful,_Merciful_Savior.rm
[02:11] <bigfoot1> if you open that small text file up, it gives two other URLs. First is rtsp://66.89.75.168:554/zoe/How_Deep_The_Father's_Love_For_Us.rm?cloakport=8080,554,7070
[02:11] <pjpeter2005> hi can anyone help i can't  login to my ubunto pc error GDM could not write to your authorisation file
[02:11] <bigfoot1> the other is exactly the same as the first, except it's not rtsp but rather pnm.
[02:11] <ubuntu> hello
[02:12] <miL> Whatever takes in settling the Linux Ubuntu absolutely?  I have been more than one hour already hoping
[02:12] <IdleOne> kafeine: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ccd2iso/
[02:12] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: welcome to YOUR chatroom.
[02:12] <bigfoot1> ubuntu: make yourself at home, because, it is your home.
[02:12] <ubuntu> im sori guys
[02:12] <_jason> bigfoot1: doesn't even play for me here
[02:12] <kafeine> IdleOne, i tried compiling it, however it continues to spit stuff about the lack of aclocal-1.6
[02:12] <ubuntu> but im just trying the ubuntu live cd
[02:12] <bigfoot1> _jason: but it plays nicely in RealPlayer.
[02:13] <bigfoot1> _jason: do you think it's cloaked or encrypted?
[02:13] <Al-Daja> i don't have libdl-dev in my ubuntu what i should do? _jason
[02:13] <_jason> bigfoot1: oh..., well it seems to take it to pnm://, have you looked up what that is?
[02:13] <bigfoot1> _jason: yes, i know the exact address of the pnm
[02:14] <bigfoot1> _jason: it's pnm://66.89.75.168:7070/zoe/How_Deep_The_Father's_Love_For_Us.rm?cloakport=8080,554,7070
[02:14] <bigfoot1> _jason: notice the word "cloak"
[02:14] <_jason> bigfoot1: I mean, the use of pnm://
[02:14] <bigfoot1> _jason: what do you mean?
[02:15] <_mindspin> pnm is'nt that a real.com specific protocol ?
[02:15] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: that's my uneducated guess
[02:16] <IdleOne> does anybody know why gnomebaker ejects cd and asks me to enter cd in drive..over and over and over?
[02:16] <_jason> Al-Daja: search for lib dl dev, what is dl?
[02:18] <NoStress> IdleOne: because he thinks that you didn't enter a blank cd, lot of reason (your cd is not blank or is altered, your drive don't work with this kind of cd, your drive is old ) ...
[02:18] <bigfoot1> _jason: don't forget about me. I did research on pnm. "PNA and PNM are RealNetworks' legacy streaming protocols "
[02:18] <bigfoot1> _jason: "RTSP (Real Time Streaming Protocol) is an Open Standard protocol for streaming media, used by the majority of streaming vendors, including RealNetworks and Apple. "
[02:18] <_jason> bigfoot1: gentoo wiki claims pnm is not well-supported in mplayer, maybe try to find a different program to use
[02:18] <IdleOne> NoStress:  cd is blank cd-rw  drive is a couple years old but is recognised
[02:18] <bigfoot1> _jason: if you take a look at that ram file, it also has an RTSP url
[02:19] <_jason> bigfoot1: where is the ram file, I think I only got an rm
[02:20] <bigfoot1> _jason: when i put in that rm file in my opera browser, it asks if i want to save a .ram file
[02:20] <bigfoot1> _jason: to be clear: when i put that .rm URL in my browser...
[02:20] <aaronshaf> I just downloaded MySQLManager from mysql.com
[02:21] <aaronshaf> how do I unpack the tar.gz?
[02:21] <NoStress> IdleOne: sorry, can't help you, try with another cd
[02:22] <aaronshaf> ?
[02:22] <_mindspin> aaronshaf: are you an experienced linux user?
[02:22] <bigfoot1> _jason: i pasted the contents of the ram file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8651
[02:22] <bigfoot1> _jason: please take a look.
[02:22] <aaronshaf> no, just getting started. I know I can dbl click it but
[02:22] <Heretic> i found the chipset drivers for linux but during the instalation theres an error saying  ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[02:22] <Heretic>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[02:22] <Heretic>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[02:22] <_mindspin> otherwise keep with the ubuntu packages
[02:22] <aaronshaf> I'd like it to automatically be put in the top-left gnome menu
[02:22] <Heretic> should i install binultils?
[02:22] <bigfoot1> or if you wont't take a look, let me bring it before your eyes. the rtsp url is rtsp://66.89.75.168:554/zoe/How_Deep_The_Father's_Love_For_Us.rm?cloakport=8080,554,7070
[02:22] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[02:22] <NoStress> Heretic: yes
[02:22] <kwewu14> the screen resolution dialog is only giving me the option to set 800x600 or 640x480.
[02:23] <kwewu14> i know this monitor can do 1280x1024 though
[02:23] <St_Iron> hi!
[02:23] <NoStress> !wiki fixres
[02:23] <aaronshaf> isn't there a simple command to unpack a package?
[02:23] <_mindspin> aaronshaf: install it with synaptic  not from source (what is your .tar file)
[02:23] <aaronshaf> a tar.gz?
[02:23] <St_Iron> aaronshaf: what kind of package?
[02:23] <St_Iron> tar
[02:23] <St_Iron> tar -xvzf package_name
[02:23] <aaronshaf> mysql-query-browser-1.1.18.tar.gz
[02:23] <_mindspin> no package, its a source file from mysql.org
[02:23] <St_Iron> isn't it?
[02:24] <aaronshaf> ah
[02:24] <_mindspin> ok its a package
[02:24] <sergio> I have a problem with wireless transfers using samba in my local network. I try to transfer files between my linux computer (connected by RJ-45) and my windows computer (connected by Wireless). The transfer starts, but with a very small speed (30 Kb/s more or less), and a few seconds later, it crashes. Any idea of the cause?
[02:24] <St_Iron> you can extract it
[02:24] <_mindspin> i meant those coming with ubuntu
[02:24] <aaronshaf> ah
[02:24] <St_Iron> with the following command
[02:24] <maxxl> hi
[02:24] <NoStress> kwewu14: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (screen section)
[02:24] <St_Iron> tar -xvzf mysql-query....tar.gz
[02:24] <aaronshaf> thanks guys.
[02:24] <_mindspin> aaronshaf: you are warned
[02:25] <aaronshaf> ?
[02:25] <IdleOne> 0
[02:25] <St_Iron> no problem aaronshaf ;)
[02:25] <_mindspin> keep with the ubunu package system
[02:25] <sergio> i've installed yesterday the mysql-query-browser with apt
[02:25] <_mindspin> he will be back soon
[02:26] <elkbuntu> _mindspin, they always return
[02:27] <St_Iron> but why can't hi use the tar command?
[02:27] <bigfoot1> _jason: how's it going? If you take a look at http://66.89.75.168:8080/viewsource/template.html?nuyhtgirjAz6c683z6rv53me5jw60hpddl8bCs9waf2DxDwdq3wEaf5zlfng610xsf3pvmbgjBijz8bfl0E68r9vm7ms4rE7, Which is View Source of the rm file). it says "Allow Downloading: Off", "Allow Recording: Off"
[02:27] <St_Iron> or the file roller...?
[02:28] <St_Iron> it is LOL
[02:28] <_jason> bigfoot1: I can't get mplayer to play it, look for something else
[02:28] <_jason> bigfoot1: look for a different stream maybe
[02:28] <Heretic> !google download+binutils
[02:28] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Heretic
[02:28] <maxxl> wehere can i get the w32codecs?
[02:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell maxxl about w32codecs
[02:29] <St_Iron> !w32codecs
[02:29] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:29] <St_Iron> here you are...
[02:29] <_jason> Heretic: the build-essential package will give you binutils
[02:29] <maxxl> thx
[02:29] <St_Iron> np
[02:30] <sergio> do you know any samba channel where I can explain my problem?
[02:30] <aaronshaf> Do you guys know a good ubuntu package for mysql management?
[02:30] <sergio> mysql-admin
[02:30] <St_Iron> phpmyadmin
[02:30] <bigfoot1> _jason: thanks. can you also try this :mplayer -dumpfile out.rm -dumpstream rtsp://66.89.75.168:554/zoe/How_Deep_The_Father's_Love_For_Us.rm?cloakport=8080,554,7070
[02:30] <Heretic> yeah but i need to install bunitils :(
[02:30] <bigfoot1> _jason: i saw that command on some webpage. please try it.
[02:30] <Heretic> so i can install the Chipset drivers
[02:31] <IdleOne> whats this mean : cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-10-386
[02:31] <IdleOne> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[02:31] <IdleOne> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
[02:31] <adem> hi i just installed ubuntu and i wanna upgrade it and also get updates
[02:31] <_jason> bigfoot1: it won't work, i tried playing that... but I'll paste that and see what happens
[02:31] <ompaul> IdleOne, are you using ubuntu or kunbuntu?
[02:31] <IdleOne> adeen:  sudo apt-get updates
[02:31] <_jason> adem: what version are you using now?
[02:31] <IdleOne> ompaul:  ubuntu
[02:31] <_jason> bigfoot1: nope
[02:31] <Heretic> adem hi i just installed ubuntu and i wanna upgrade it and also get updates<---- apt-get update
[02:32] <ompaul> IdleOne, use nautilus for recording CDs
[02:32] <adem> root@hsikrut:/home/adem# apt-get update
[02:32] <adem> Reading package lists... Done
[02:32] <adem> root@hsikrut:/home/adem#
[02:32] <adem> no updates ?
[02:32] <ompaul> IdleOne, use nautilus for burning that is
[02:32] <elkbuntu> heretic as in to dapper?
[02:32] <IdleOne> ompaul:  how?
[02:32] <Heretic> no
[02:32] <Heretic> breeze
[02:32] <Snorkel> apt-get upgrade
[02:32] <NoStress> adem: sudo apt-get upgrade now
[02:32] <ompaul> adem, please use paste.ubutu-nl.org for pasting data and don't paste in the channel
[02:32] <bigfoot1> _jason: i guess there's only one way. play it in realaudio (which works) and thes use a recording program to capture the PCM. what do you think of this idea?
[02:33] <adem> nostess 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:33] <adem> *nostress
[02:33] <_jason> bigfoot1: should work, what program do you use to record pcm
[02:33] <NoStress> adem: is your sources.list is correct, then your system is up to date
[02:33] <bigfoot1> _jason: ha ha. i don't know
[02:33] <bigfoot1> yet
[02:33] <adem> NoStress well i just installed ubuntu so i dont think it is correct ?
[02:34] <adem> !pasite
[02:34] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adem
[02:34] <adem> !paste
[02:34] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:34] <NoStress> adem: past your source.list on pastebin.com
[02:34] <adem> k
[02:34] <ompaul> IdleOne, if you an iso image you want to burn right click on it in nautilus (it can be found at -Places -Home folder on the menu) and it will give you an option to write to CD it is that simple / hard if it is on the desktop just right click on it
[02:34] <aaronshaf> what's a good place to see all the ubuntu packages availble for d/l?
[02:34] <NoStress> aaronshaf: synaptic
[02:34] <kwewu14> how do i probe for my monitors vertical and horizontal sync?
[02:34] <sergio> i have an url with a sources.list generator
[02:35] <sergio> if you want to try
[02:35] <_jason> aaronshaf: synaptic on your computer or packages.ubuntu.com online
[02:35] <Heretic> !google binutils
[02:35] <ubotu> Heretic: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <ompaul> Heretic, what do you want to know about binutils
[02:35] <bigfoot1> what program do you guys recommend to capture/record PCM?
[02:35] <Heretic> downlaod
[02:35] <Snorkel> How do i add an user to sudoers
[02:35] <aaronshaf> thanks
[02:35] <kestas> is there any way to change that black guy cartoon I have as an icon in my unlock screen dialogue?
[02:35] <_jason> Snorkel: add him to the admin group
[02:35] <kestas> Snorkel, I think it's the admin user group
[02:35] <kestas> yeah
[02:35] <Heretic> the binutils ld
[02:35] <adem> nostress >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8652
[02:36] <Snorkel> Hmm. I thought i did that
[02:36] <NoStress> adem: ok, you only have CD source
[02:36] <adem> nostress so what do i do now?
[02:36] <_jason> Heretic: build-essential will give it to you, just use synaptic or apt-get
[02:37] <NoStress> adem: ask sergio his source.list generator :)
[02:37] <adem> nostress sorry?
[02:37] <_jason> Snorkel: you probably need to log in, log out with him
[02:37] <St_Iron> :)
[02:37] <Heretic> thanks _jason
[02:37] <_jason> Snorkel: erm log out log in would be the correct order :)
[02:37] <sergio> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic <= sources.list generator :P
[02:37] <Snorkel> Ok. that must be problem. Thnx
[02:38] <ompaul> Heretic, it is as jason says - I was playing on the command line to get this -  http://??.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages in some cases the ?? does not exist but in most cases it is a two letter country code
[02:38] <adem> hello?
[02:38] <NoStress> adem: see sergio post, 4 lines above
[02:38] <Snorkel> Does anybody know a method to restore a users default desktop settings?
[02:38] <ompaul> Heretic, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:39] <Heretic> it says this
[02:40] <sergio> I have a problem with wireless transfers using samba in my local network. I try to transfer files between my linux computer (connected by RJ-45) and my windows computer (connected by Wireless). The transfer starts, but with a very small speed (30 Kb/s more or less), and a few seconds later, it crashes. Any idea of the cause?
[02:40] <sergio> do you know any samba channel where I can explain my problem?
[02:40] <Heretic> root@linux:/# sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:40] <Heretic> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:40] <Heretic> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:40] <_jason> Heretic: is another process using it? (synaptic maybe?)
[02:40] <ompaul> Heretic, you got synaptic open ?
[02:40] <St_Iron> how can i check my aliases?
[02:40] <_jason> St_Iron: type 'alias'
[02:40] <NoStress> sergio: are you sure it's a samba pb ? transfert via ftp/scp/other works fine ?
[02:41] <Heretic> how can i end process the synaptic?
[02:41] <St_Iron> thanks
[02:41] <_jason> Heretic: press the X in the corner
[02:41] <khiang> hi
[02:41] <adem> how can i edit the file ?
[02:41] <khiang> vi file
[02:41] <Heretic> press X in the corner of where?
[02:41] <NoStress> adem: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:42] <_jason> Heretic: of synaptic
[02:42] <ompaul> Heretic, in the corner of synaptic
[02:42] <farous> Heretic: close synaptic it is a graphical program
[02:42] <sergio> I don't know if it's samba problem, that's what i'm trying to know :)
[02:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell Heretic about synaptic
[02:42] <sergio> i don't know how to transfer by ftp
[02:42] <_jason> Heretic: see if you have a program that looks like that opena dn close it
[02:42] <Heretic> :S
[02:43] <sergio> do i need a ftp client in my windows computer?
[02:43] <Heretic> im in the system monitor but i can find any synaptic open...
[02:43] <j2daosh> ok damnit... how do i unmount an iso if the path i mapped to get to it is gone?
[02:43] <NoStress> sergio: install a ftp server on your linuxbox, and in a windows terminal, type ftp ip_linux_box
[02:43] <farous> Heretic: did you open the update notifier
[02:43] <Heretic> yeah
[02:43] <farous> close it
[02:44] <Heretic> im updating ubuntu
[02:44] <NoStress> sergio: there is a ftp commandline client on win
[02:44] <sergio> ok, i'll try it
[02:44] <farous> so wait till the update finish Heretic
[02:44] <Heretic> ok
[02:44] <Heretic> thanks :D
[02:44] <Stork> when i use "atop", and look at the cpu monitor section, what's the difference between 'sys' and 'usr' ?
[02:44] <farous> np :)
[02:44] <ompaul> Heretic, so wait until that is finished before you do the next action - they all use the same database in the background
[02:45] <ompaul> Heretic, apt aptitude dpkg and synaptic
[02:46] <NoStress> sergio: i think it's more a wifi pb than a samba pb
[02:46] <ompaul> Heretic, ohh yeah and dselect, but we don't talk about dselect too much :)
[02:46] <farous> ompaul: seems you come from a debian background :)
[02:46] <Heretic> let me finish the updates first and then i'll install binutils
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> umm how do you apt-get from a cd for installing kubuntu ontop of ubuntu?
[02:47] <St_Iron> just a minute...
[02:47] <Psi-Jack> What repo has that Skype package that has the DSP wrapper on it?
[02:48] <hernan> Hello
[02:48] <ubuntu> hello
[02:49] <Guillaume> Bon matin
[02:49] <Grifken> i have a problem installing ubuntu on my desktop
[02:49] <NoStress> Guillaume: 'lut
[02:49] <Grifken> when it finishes asking for language and keyboard settings
[02:49] <Guillaume> sa va ?
[02:49] <kafeine> ccd2iso.deb, anyone?
[02:49] <sergio> NoStress: It's strange. Transfers between windows computers works fine.
[02:49] <Grifken> it hangs and says "the CD in the drive is not an Ubuntu CD"
[02:49] <St_Iron> re
[02:50] <NoStress> sergio: you've transfered a **big** file ?
[02:50] <ompaul> farous, I have many things I don't want to talk about :-) (open death trap server etc, chuck or the BSD daemon [that is just to prove age :)] , or even the r/h or turbolinux or the wizard with a star and a green lizard but hey the swirl is cool :)
[02:50] <Grifken> anyone any idea? I have two CD devices (one writer one normal)
[02:51] <sergio> NoStress: yep
[02:51] <ompaul> Grifken, move it to the other drive and boot again
[02:51] <sergio> NoStress: sorry, but i must go know. Thanks for your help ;)
[02:51] <NoStress> sergio: no pb, bye
[02:51] <Grifken> it won't start in the other drive
[02:51] <Grifken> should i disconnect the writer?
[02:51] <ompaul> Grifken, play with your bios so it does not see the other drive
[02:52] <ompaul> disconnection is after that :)
[02:52] <farous> ompaul:i too have aged. not a long linux experience though. ;)
[02:52] <m1miro> #
[02:54] <Grifken> okay i'll try to figure that one out :)
[02:54] <Heretic> ohhh now i get it so synaptic its like Yast like package manager?
[02:54] <kryptoz> Happy Valentines day //
[02:54] <ompaul> Heretic, it would share certain similarities
[02:54] <Grifken> seems pretty nice linux distro :)
[02:54] <ompaul> Grifken, it is nice
[02:55] <_mindspin> more than that
[02:55] <Heretic> fair nuff : \
[02:55] <kwewu14> when i'm try to update my package list, it keeps hanging on security.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <Grifken> cya and have fun ;)
[02:57] <ompaul> kwewu14, put a # in front of that in  your sources.list and if you want further help with that paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:58] <Angel_Dex> Hello all
[02:59] <kwewu14> where can i find a list of mirrors for sources.list?
[03:00] <efrain> hola
[03:00] <farous> !es
[03:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:00] <boz> lol
[03:02] <murai> how do i install *.tar.gz file?????
[03:02] <janno> Is there any firewall for ubuntu linux?
[03:02] <St_Iron> is it a question murai?
[03:02] <Yokalosh> hey, is it possible to rename a removable usb device( e.g from '74.5gb Volume ' to 'Storage'
[03:02] <murai> yes
[03:03] <Yokalosh> Janno: firestarter
[03:03] <Yokalosh> you can apt-get it
[03:03] <St_Iron> do you know what is the tar murai?
[03:03] <janno> is it in reporsities?
[03:03] <Yokalosh> yes
[03:03] <murai> dont know
[03:03] <viviersf> Janno , you can put one on if you want to
[03:03] <viviersf> ues janno
[03:03] <viviersf> *yes
[03:03] <janno> ok
[03:03] <Yokalosh> :)
[03:03] <viviersf> firestarter, shortwall, ipkungfu
[03:03] <St_Iron> murai: extract the file - tar -xvzf *.tar.gz
[03:03] <viviersf> take your pic
[03:04] <St_Iron> after it, you can install the file
[03:04] <murai> then?
[03:04] <bigfoot1> guys, using "sound recorder" how come i can't save as mp3?
[03:04] <prem> hi all
[03:04] <St_Iron> murai: what kind of file?
[03:04] <bigfoot1> i mean, the option's there, but it says I can't do that.
[03:04] <St_Iron> executable?
[03:05] <_mindspin> encoder installed?
[03:05] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: it says it's not
[03:05] <St_Iron> you can see it after the extract
[03:05] <prem> great problem suddenly gdm stopped working gdmlogin says daemon version not correct but 2.13.0.7 is same for both. any help
[03:05] <_mindspin> look for lame glame or so...
[03:05] <instabin> !java
[03:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:06] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: my bad. WHat error exactly said was "Failed to create GStreamer encoder element - check your encoding setup."
[03:06] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: does that mean i don't have the encoding?
[03:06] <Yokalosh> any way to give devices new labels?
[03:07] <_mindspin> bigfoot1: open synaptic and search for lame glame or so and you'll see
[03:07] <_mindspin> or do a locate glame on console
[03:07] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: i currently have lame. but i don't currently have glame
[03:08] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: so i'm installing glame now
[03:08] <_mindspin> i would try installing glame
[03:09] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: shoudl i get gstreamer0.8-lame?
[03:09] <prem> can anybody help me with gdm problem
[03:09] <farous> cast your quest prem
[03:09] <_mindspin> I would...
[03:09] <murai> hey, how do i install wine in ubuntu????
[03:09] <prem> farous: gdm stopped working gdmlogin says daemon version not correct but 2.13.0.7 is same for both. any help
[03:09] <Yokalosh> apt-get install wine
[03:09] <Yokalosh> i think
[03:10] <Yokalosh> can't remember if its in the repos though
[03:10] <farous> prem when did you notice this problem did you upgrade your dist
[03:11] <setuid> Anyone know how to get udev to auto-create device nodes in /dev when devices are plugged in?
[03:11] <prem> farous: no i didn't from yesterday suddenly it stopped and i did some workarround to notice the problem
[03:11] <echylo> hello, can someone tell me why Firestarter blocks my whole internet? I try to share an internet connection with a XP machine.
[03:11] <elkbuntu> what's the command to initiliase a driver?
[03:11] <bigfoot1> _mindspin: installing that last file makes it work
[03:12] <Guillaume> Anyone knows about Synaptic problems when you try to download package imformation
[03:12] <Guillaume> ?
[03:12] <Yokalosh> problems like?
[03:12] <Guillaume> im givin you the log in pv
[03:12] <adem> when i  type "su" and enter password it sayz its wrong but when i use "sudu su" and enter password it log's me into root  why?
[03:13] <farous> prem i have no idea try the forums but that is really strange if you did not upgrade or reinstall
[03:13] <farous> gdm
[03:13] <Psi-Jack> Okay, can someone help me out with a little apt/dpkg divert trick I want to make? I want my skype package to rename skype to skype.bin, and the skype-dsp-hijacker to symlink it's script to skype.
[03:13] <setuid> Anyone?
[03:13] <setuid> 0.79 of udev doesn't create devices in /dev
[03:13] <Yokalosh> adem: did you set up a root password?
[03:13] <prem> farous: trying now, thanks
[03:14] <_jason> adem: use 'sudo -s' if you need a root prompt
[03:14] <adem> well
[03:14] <adem> when i intsalled it it didnt ask for a root password ?
[03:14] <AnsiC> hello
[03:14] <Yokalosh> yeh, you have to set one
[03:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell adem about root
[03:14] <Yokalosh> :)
[03:15] <_jason> adem: root is disabled for security reasons, read the link ubotu sent you ina  private message for more info
[03:15] <adem> ?
[03:15] <emily> Anybody ever install Asterisk Open source Telephony PBX on Ubuntu?
[03:15] <_jason> adem: check your private messages
[03:15] <adem> yeh what about it
[03:15] <adem> is it a good thing its locked?
[03:16] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone here know how to use dpkg-divert?
[03:16] <emily> if any how did you go about it?
[03:16] <_jason> adem: read the link that is there, so you can learn all about root and sudo in ubuntu
[03:16] <St_Iron> what is the best text-editor on ubuntu for php, mysql, css ?
[03:16] <_mindspin> vi
[03:16] <emily> and ur experince
[03:16] <_mindspin> ;-)
[03:16] <Psi-Jack> St_Iron: There is no best, but your own personal opinion of what you consider best.
[03:16] <St_Iron> vi in php programming? :D
[03:17] <killapop> St_Iron, i use bluefish for html css etc
[03:17] <gaara_> hi at all
[03:17] <elkbuntu> St_Iron, i'm quite fond of quanta+
[03:17] <adem> i dont get it ?
[03:17] <ompaul> adem, I think it is a great thing
[03:17] <gaara_> i can't connect to my cups server. Why? I have Ubuntu 5.10
[03:17] <instabin> any one have java 1.5 update 6 working
[03:17] <Psi-Jack> St_Iron: Instead of asking useless "best" questions, you should ask, what editors would be good with such and such.
[03:17] <tatters> I got apache an apache2 both running in processes which version am I runnning or does apache 2 require apache?
[03:17] <gaara_> i started Cups server
[03:17] <setuid> sigh
[03:17] <elkbuntu> quanta+ doesnt have the code color glitching bluefish does
[03:17] <emily> Anybody there to help
[03:17] <gaara_> but can't connect to this
[03:18] <Yokalosh> i cant find anywhere how to give drives new labels :(
[03:18] <St_Iron> ok, i ask that: which text-editor do you prefer for programming?
[03:18] <_jason> adem: if you read your private messages, there will be this link there for you to read: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:18] <emily> Jason any word
[03:18] <gaara_> anyone can help me?
[03:18] <amphi> St_Iron: vim for me
[03:18] <_jason> emily: don't know anything about asterisk, sorry
[03:18] <echylo> sigh
[03:18] <emily> Anyone tried Asterisk PBX  on ubuntu?
[03:19] <emily> ok
[03:19] <emily> Jason
[03:19] <adem> _jason why cant i upgrade ubutnu ?
[03:19] <Yokalosh> ?
[03:19] <_jason> adem: what version are you using now?
[03:19] <echylo> Can someone help me with this firestarter / internetsharing problem? every time I enable firestarter, I lose internet connection on the server...
[03:19] <FaBZ`Laptop> wen the next ubuntu comes out im just gunna format :P
[03:19] <adem> breezy i think
[03:19] <adem> Linux hsikrut 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:19] <FaBZ`Laptop> by the way wen is it comin out?
[03:20] <_jason> adem: lsb_release -c
[03:20] <FaBZ`Laptop> drapper that is
[03:20] <_jason> !dapper
[03:20] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable so if you must use it please help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[03:20] <emily> Its a complete linux iPBX box performing wonders taunted as the future apache of the telephony world
[03:20] <adem> _jason what?>
[03:20] <_jason> adem: try the command 'lsb_release -c'
[03:20] <Angel_Dex> should i switch to a lighter WM?
[03:20] <suseforge> Hello all
[03:20] <tatters> does anyone run an apache server?
[03:20] <adem> Codename:       breezy
[03:21] <adem> _jason Codename:       breezy
[03:21] <amphi> emily: 'taunted' eh? heh
[03:21] <_jason> adem: then you have the latest stable release
[03:21] <adem> Ok
[03:21] <emily> tatters
[03:22] <tatters> ?
[03:23] <instabin> Is there a package for sun java 1.5 update 6
[03:23] <farous_away> !javadebs
[03:24] <_jason> !+javadebs
[03:24] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:24] <Psi-Jack> instabin: Seveas's repository does.
[03:24] <Psi-Jack> instabin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:24] <instabin> Thank you
[03:25] <Psi-Jack> Anyone here know how to use dpkg-divert?
[03:25] <kevin> hello
[03:27] <meenfreem> rikai, heya
[03:27] <elkbuntu> can i ask why some places are calling dapper 6.10 and others 6.04?
[03:27] <meenfreem> rikai, good news.... i got ubuntu to install
[03:28] <ubuntu_> HOLA
[03:28] <echylo> Can someone help me with this firestarter / internetsharing problem? every time I enable firestarter, I lose internet connection on the server...
[03:28] <ubuntu_> ANIBODY SPEAK SPANISH?
[03:28] <elkbuntu> anybody forget to turn their caps lock off?
[03:28] <meenfreem> echylo, i have the same... i need to turn off firestarter in order to print :S
[03:29] <echylo> yes, but how do I share my connection to another machine then? :(
[03:29] <Psi-Jack> ubuntu: #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <janno> But is there any anti-virus to for ubuntu?
[03:29] <Psi-Jack> ubuntu_: #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <echylo> lol
[03:30] <elkbuntu> janno avscan
[03:30] <Psi-Jack> janno: There are /several/ anti-virus programs for Linux. (not limited to just ubuntu, a DISTRIBUTION of Linux)
[03:30] <foxpaul> are there any utilities to let me browse ldap servers for linux/
[03:30] <foxpaul> ?
[03:30] <Psi-Jack> foxpaul: luma, ldap-common, etc.
[03:30] <Psi-Jack> foxpaul: apt-cache search ldap
[03:31] <foxpaul> cheers
[03:32] <Angel_Dex> should i switch to a lighter WM? what would i loose if i do so?
[03:32] <Psi-Jack> Angel_Dex: LOL. You're asking us? Why don't you try it, and see for yourself.! It's not our computer. :p
[03:32] <Angel_Dex> Psi-Jack TT_TT
[03:34] <St_Iron> bye all
[03:34] <`underOATH> hey is there a way to just boot ubuntu up as a terminal window ?
[03:35] <Cylindric> Can anyone recommend any good software that will keep a local folder synchronised with a remote folder by FTP?  I know of wget that downloads changes, and sitecopy that can upload changes, but I want one that does both.  Changes are sometimes made to a remote file, sometimes to a local file.
[03:35] <Psi-Jack> Anyone here know how to use dpkg-divert well?
[03:36] <farous_away> Cylindric: unison and rsync
[03:36] <Cylindric> Thanks, farous_away, I'll have a look at those
[03:36] <j2daosh> how do i do a massive file copy from one directory to another but only copying specific files in the parent directory and all subfolders of the parent directory?
[03:36] <farous_away> Cylindric: unision if you want to sync both simulatan. rsync most of one way
[03:36] <Zeep> Hi all
[03:37] <Buxexa> Can anyone helpme please? I installed the EasyUbuntu and all are working I think, but the firefox plugins aren't working...
[03:38] <j2daosh> does anyone know?
[03:39] <j2daosh> is it even possible?
[03:39] <Steve_p> ??
[03:39] <Steve_p> j2daosh, have you thought about rsync?
[03:40] <j2daosh> ....uh wrong person
[03:40] <j2daosh> i just need to copy a grip of files from one location to another
[03:40] <Psi-Jack> Is it possible, with dpkg-divert, to make a double-redundant diversion from two packages? For example, diverting package "skype" and it's /usr/bin/skype to /usr/bin/skype.bin using rename, and package skype-dsp-hijacker's /usr/bin/skype_dsp_hijacker to link /usr/bin/skype to it?
[03:40] <Steve_p> cp from_dir/* to_dir ?
[03:40] <j2daosh> the only problem is i cant figure out how to specify the exact type of file i want moved, where to get them from and where to move them too
[03:40] <Angel_Dex> what can i change to other then metacity?
[03:40] <j2daosh> ud think
[03:41] <j2daosh> but there is about 400 .dll files i need to move from a parent folder on my desktop to the fake windows system 32 folder
[03:42] <rod> hi
[03:43] <rod> i have a big usb disc here with ubuntu installed on it... bios doesnt boot from usb ... made a floppy with grub.... editing in grub.lst
[03:43] <rod> usb disc is recognised as sda1
[03:43] <rod> in grub.lst i need something like hd0,1
[03:43] <rod> how to discover what sda1 should translated into xx0.0?
[03:45] <GiGaHuRtZ> Anyone have any luck with Xgl yet under Dapper?
[03:45] <danielgravenor> using growisofs, is speed= the variable for what speed to write at?
[03:45] <mindamp> whats the easiest way to install pine?
[03:46] <danielgravenor> cause in the wiki it says speed=2 but my dvd burner and disks can go up to 8 / 12 .. so can I usethose?
[03:46] <amphi> danielgravenor: I would expect so; you can probably not specify speed at all, and it will do whatever the hw can
[03:47] <danielgravenor> amphi: thanks :) i'll try it out
[03:47] <GiGaHuRtZ> hey amphi :)
[03:48] <Seveas> GiGaHuRtZ, probably not - the developers are struggling to get it in...
[03:48] <amphi> ah, GiGaHuRtZ ... ;)
[03:48] <GiGaHuRtZ> Didn't know you dabbled with ubuntu :)
[03:48] <GiGaHuRtZ> I'm about to try and see if I can get Xgl going under Dapper
[03:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Should be a project....
[03:49] <danielgravenor> amphi: should i use /dev/whatever or atapi:/dev/whatever ?
[03:49] <meenfreem> errr... help
[03:49] <Seveas> GiGaHuRtZ, you'd better wait a few days for an official upload :)
[03:49] <amphi> I don't really, just installed it for a friend who's trying/hoping to defenestrate herself, in the non-medieval sense of the word
[03:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Nah :)
[03:49] <meenfreem> I forgot my password already
[03:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> I like experiments
[03:49] <meenfreem> how do i retrieve it?
[03:49] <Grifken> I guess i'll have to fysically disconnect the writer :p
[03:49] <Grifken> can't find it in the bios
[03:49] <Seveas> meenfreem, boot into rescue mode, reset it with: passwd username_of_normal_user_here
[03:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> Seveas, If I can do a complete working LFS install, I think I can get Xgl working :)
[03:50] <amphi> danielgravenor: I only use cdrecord; I use -scanbus to find the device, and then put it /etc/default/cdrecord so I never need to worry about it again
[03:50] <Seveas> GiGaHuRtZ, :)
[03:50] <meenfreem> thanks seveas
[03:51] <amphi> GiGaHuRtZ: bah, too easy - get xgl working on the hurd, at least ;)
[03:51] <Grifken> ompaul: I only find one "CD-ROM" in the bios :s
[03:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> hurd? cmon now...
[03:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> heh
[03:51] <Psi-Jack> Seveas !
[03:51] <ompaul> Grifken, don't know what to say
[03:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> It just stinks that all the progress for Xgl is coming from the "Bloated" distros IMO
[03:51] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: Maybe you could help me. Do you know dpkg-divert at all well? :)
[03:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> Psi-Jack, still on Gentoo?
[03:52] <Ng> GiGaHuRtZ: they are the ones with the money to piss away on such pointless ventures
[03:52] <Seveas> Psi-Jack, not as well as I'd want to
[03:52] <elkbuntu> personally, that whole 3d cube desktopping looks cool and all, but i just know it'll make me dizzy :P
[03:52] <Psi-Jack> GiGaHuRtZ: It's on my other HDD, but I may be getting away from it.
[03:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ng, yup exactly
[03:52] <`underOATH> how can i configure my internet to work from a terminal window of ubuntu ?
[03:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> I hope to learn from how they are doing it and be able to apply it to other distros
[03:53] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: Heh. I'm trying to do some nice trickery with the skype packages and dsp hijacker and rename skype to skype.bin and symlink the hijacker to skype.
[03:53] <dark`zzz> the cedega is avaliable for amd64 systems?
[03:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> Psi-Jack, didn't you try to get Xgl going?
[03:53] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: I just don't know how to do a double-redundant divert like that, IF it can even be done.
[03:53] <meenfreem> seems that i forgot my username LOL
[03:53] <Ng> there's a forum post about getting Xgl if you really care that much
[03:53] <Seveas> Psi-Jack, alias skype=hijacker, in the hijcaker use the complete path :)
[03:53] <adem> where can i get the win32 codecs ?
[03:53] <meenfreem> any tricks to see which users there are?
[03:53] <Grifken> :)
[03:53] <adem> i need the deocders to play a movie
[03:53] <adem> why
[03:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ng, nah I'm good working on it by myself
[03:53] <adem> and where can i get thekm
[03:53] <amphi> meenfreem: cat /etc/passwd
[03:53] <adem> *them
[03:54] <suseforge> adam: refer to the wiki on ubuntus home page...look for restricted formats
[03:54] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: Hmm,. That's one way... But that's not the greatest way. It would be much better to use divert methods, as that would work at the package-level.
[03:54] <adem> what?
[03:54] <Psi-Jack> GiGaHuRtZ: No, I don't.
[03:54] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[03:54] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:54] <amphi> meenfreem: or even cat /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1
[03:55] <`underOATH> how can i configure my internet to work from a terminal window of ubuntu ?
[03:55] <`underOATH> how can i configure my internet to work from a terminal window of ubuntu ?
[03:55] <`underOATH> how can i configure my internet to work from a terminal window of ubuntu ?
[03:55] <GiGaHuRtZ> Psi-Jack, oh I thought thats what you were messing with Xorg7 for on Gentoo :)
[03:55] <Psi-Jack> `underOATH: Great way to get help., Flood. GET LOST.
[03:55] <cas> Is it possible to use networkmanager without a dhcp server. It won't remember my dns :(
[03:55] <`underOATH> lol when i ask no one helps me
[03:55] <suseforge> adem, go to the wiki on ubuntu.com and refer to restricted formats
[03:55] <Psi-Jack> `underOATH: So you become rude, obnoxious, and make people angry with you? Great idea! GET LOST!
[03:55] <adem> english?
[03:56] <amphi> `underOATH: your question is too vague
[03:56] <`underOATH> ....
[03:56] <amphi> `underOATH: your question is too vague
[03:56] <suseforge> Adem:just go to ubuntu.com and click on the wiki tab
[03:56] <meenfreem> thanks amphi :D
[03:56] <Seveas> adem, look at the w32codecs thing ubotu just gave :)
[03:56] <farous_away> !tell `underOATH about wifi
[03:56] <suseforge> w32codecs allow you to listen to proprietary formats...
[03:56] <_mindspin> which connection `underOATH
[03:57] <`underOATH> wifi..?
[03:57] <amphi> meenfreem: the second reduces the clutter somewhat
[03:57] <meenfreem> seems like i can fix X server but i can forget my new log in :D
[03:57] <_mindspin> modem, isdn, dsl?
[03:57] <_mindspin> or via a router
[03:57] <`underOATH> it's an ethernet conection to cable internet
[03:57] <elkbuntu> meenfreem, man of many talents, arent you ;)
[03:57] <farous_away> `underOATH: ifconfig
[03:57] <meenfreem> elkbuntu, man with short term memory more likely
[03:57] <_mindspin> what dou you get if you type ifconfig ?
[03:57] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: The only problem I'm having, is I can get one divert working. like renaming skype to skype.bin, but then when I try to divert the hijacker, it says it clashes with skype.
[03:58] <amphi> `underOATH: sudo dhclient eth0 or whatever the interface is should do
[03:58] <`underOATH> lemme try that amphi
[03:58] <elkbuntu> meenfreem, ;) i'd trust valuable databases with you anyday, i know you'd never get into them :P
[03:58] <Seveas> Psi-Jack, that's already way over my head, sorry
[03:58] <amphi> `underOATH: that's all I have to do with the revolting motorola cable modem here
[03:58] <farous_away> `underOATH: you should look at the wiki netowrk config is the first on the list ;)
[03:58] <`underOATH> alright lemme plug it in and try it :P
[03:58] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: Hehehe. Alright. Maybe if I just made a manual symlink for skype to the hijacker, and kept the local divert going for skype to skype.bin, it'd work.. Hmmmmmmm..
[03:59] <amphi> `underOATH: how many ethernet interfaces do you have?
[03:59] <`underOATH> i donno ?
[03:59] <_mindspin> ifconfig would show
[03:59] <elkbuntu> bedtime... have fun folks
[03:59] <farous_away> `underOATH: by the way eth0 should work out of the box
[03:59] <meenfreem> elkbuntu,  and now for the wireless network :D
[03:59] <`underOATH> well it doesn't work farous_away :/
[03:59] <adem> now i get this error
[03:59] <adem> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:59] <adem> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:00] <elkbuntu> meenfreem, do you remember who your provider is ;)
[04:00] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: That skype package on your repo, did you bundle it, or is it Skype's own bundle?
[04:00] <farous_away> `underOATH: do you have gnome you can use the gnome applet network to config it
[04:00] <amphi> `underOATH: sudo ifconfig -a would show all interfaces
[04:00] <`underOATH> alright
[04:00] <adem> now i get this error
[04:00] <FliesLikeALap> i've never been able to get the skype package from apt or the debian download on their site to work, i have to resort to their compiled statick binary from the skype site Seveas  Psi-Jack
[04:00] <jamestek> #ubuntu-es
[04:00] <adem> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:00] <farous_away> other than tha in a window type man ifconfig to see how it work
[04:00] <jamestek> #ubuntu-es
[04:00] <jamestek> #ubuntu-es
[04:01] <amphi> jamestek: WAYTTD?
[04:01] <jamestek> is sorry
[04:01] <_jason> jamestek: try /join #ubuntu-es
[04:01] <suseforge> adem:You need to enable multiverse and universal repositories. use synaptic under system->admin---> synaptic package manager is the easiets
[04:01] <Psi-Jack> FliesLikeALap: Heh. Yes. I know. Seveas's has the hijacker DSP wrapper, as well, which fixes Skype's own bugs. :p
[04:01] <`underOATH> IT WORKED !! THANKS !!!
[04:01] <Psi-Jack> Seveas: I have an idea, if you're interested in hearing it. ;)
[04:01] <amphi> `underOATH: dhclient eth0, huh?
[04:01] <`underOATH> yea amphi
[04:01] <`underOATH> <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
[04:01] <FliesLikeALap> alright Psi-Jack  i just saw someone talking about skype and shared my experience ;)
[04:02] <suseforge> ***make sure you hit refresh before you attempt to install the codecs****
[04:02] <tristan_ph> is there any ubuntu channel that speaks a tagalog language?
[04:02] <meenfreem> elkbuntu, hmz... difficult questions
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> FliesLikeALap: Ironically, I was talking to Seveas about his Skype packaging. ;)
[04:02] <tristan_ph> something  like #ubuntu-tg?
[04:02] <amphi> `underOATH: you can edit /etc/network interfaces do bring it up automatically at boot - man 5 interfaces
[04:02] <FliesLikeALap> ah
[04:02] <elkbuntu> meenfreem, lol.. nighto
[04:02] <tristan_ph> or #ubuntu-tagalog?
[04:02] <amphi> `underOATH: er, /etc/network/interfaces
[04:03] <dark`zzz> tristan_ph, where tagalog is speaked?
[04:03] <jamestek> thaks
[04:03] <dark`zzz> tristan_ph, you can do /list #ubuntu*
[04:03] <dark`zzz> to list all ubuntu channels
[04:03] <tristan_ph> from philippines
[04:03] <tristan_ph> tagalog is from philippines
[04:03] <dark`zzz> tristan_ph, nice:)
[04:03] <dark`zzz> (ps: errr, /list #ubuntu* don't worked here)
[04:03] <tristan_ph> a good new for everyone that ubuntu is everywhere
[04:04] <tristan_ph> a good news for everyone that ubuntu is everywhere
[04:04] <tristan_ph> here and there hahaha
[04:04] <Buxexa> How I change my screen resolution to 1280x1024?!
[04:04] <Psi-Jack> Buxexa: In X or console framebuffer?
[04:04] <tristan_ph> Buxexa: i have that problem too
[04:04] <tristan_ph> Buxexa: but i already fix it and i forgot the solution
[04:05] <dark`zzz> Psi-Jack, the problem of Buxexa is on X
[04:05] <farous_away> Buxexa: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:05] <suseforge> Buxexa:system---->preferences---->screen resolution..
[04:05] <Psi-Jack> Buxexa: X -configure
[04:05] <tristan_ph> yahh let me see it
[04:05] <tvon> heh, Evolution in Dapper just got a mega huge view icon
[04:05] <zyth> I had that problem, I had to re-run the xorg config and manually put in my settings
[04:06] <tvon> maybe it twas the theme... gone now
[04:06] <Buxexa> Fatal server error:
[04:06] <Buxexa> Server is already active for display 0
[04:06] <Buxexa> Psi-Jack,
[04:06] <amphi> Buxexa: you can do startx -- :1 to run a second X server
[04:06] <farous_away> Buxexa: again can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:06] <C-O-L-T> in which directory is the trash?
[04:07] <Psi-Jack> Buxexa: So get out of X before you do that! :p
[04:07] <Psi-Jack> LOL
[04:07] <adem> ok i try to play a movie it kaffeine and it sayz i dont have the decoders to the steam!!!!!!!!!!?
[04:07] <Buxexa> farous_away,  ok
[04:07] <Buxexa> farous_away,  w8
[04:07] <maksiczek> hej
[04:07] <s0696> how are u
[04:07] <s0696> dam
[04:07] <s0696> kfokf
[04:07] <s0696> fpef
[04:07] <adem> ........
[04:07] <suseforge> Adem: Look a little farther down the restricted formats page and there are several paragraphs on playing dvds
[04:08] <amphi> !tell s0696 about enter
[04:08] <maksiczek> wczoraj zainstalowaem ubuntu, pierwszy raz i nie mog utworzy katalogu, linux nie widzi pozostaych partycji
[04:08] <amphi> !pl
[04:08] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[04:08] <tristan_ph> !pl
[04:08] <rod> !pl
[04:08] <tristan_ph> !pl
[04:09] <_jason> umm we got it guys
[04:09] <tristan_ph> !pl <-- what is the meaning of this?
[04:09] <ubotu> tristan_ph: okay
[04:09] <Seveas> arhgh
[04:09] <_jason> tristan_ph: poland 2 letter abbreviation i believe
[04:09] <Buxexa> farous_away,  http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/17
[04:09] <Seveas> !forget pl <-- what
[04:09] <ubotu> i forgot pl <-- what, Seveas
[04:09] <C-O-L-T> where is the trash directory in the filesystem
[04:09] <rod> i got ubuntu installed on a usb drive   Grub is configured right. But the usb device isn't recognised yet after grub (grub is on a floppy)
[04:09] <rod> How to make the device with ubuntu recognised via grub?
[04:09] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, ~/.Trash
[04:10] <Seveas> !forget ops interface
[04:10] <ubotu> i forgot ops interface, Seveas
[04:10] <Seveas> !forget asl
[04:10] <ubotu> i forgot asl, Seveas
[04:10] <_jason> tristan_ph: oh does it not translate appropriately?
[04:10] <tristan_ph> !forget ops
[04:10] <ubotu> i forgot ops, tristan_ph
[04:10] <Seveas> !unforget ops
[04:10] <ubotu> Seveas: Successfully recovered 'ops'.  Have fun now.
[04:10] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: thanks I got it
[04:10] <amphi> tristan_ph: "I can call spirts from the vasty deep." "hy so can I, or so can any man; but will they come when you do call for them?" ;)
[04:10] <tristan_ph> !unforget ops
[04:10] <farous_away> Buxexa: ok which resol you need
[04:10] <Seveas> tristan_ph, mess with the bot one more time and you'll be banned permanently
[04:11] <tristan_ph> sorry] 
[04:11] <instabin> could someone help me add seveas repository
[04:11] <Buxexa> 1280x1024, 1280x960, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480
[04:11] <Seveas> !tell instabin about Seveas
[04:11] <farous_away> Buxexa: they are already set for you to use them
[04:11] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[04:11] <farous_away> system > pref > screen resol should work
[04:11] <Buxexa> and how I change to use the 1280x1024?
[04:12] <Buxexa> no, it doesnt work...
[04:12] <Buxexa> I must restart the computer to fix it?!
[04:12] <farous_away> ok your xorg.conf is properly set
[04:12] <adem> ok i try to play a movie it kaffeine and it sayz i dont have the decoders to the steam!!!!!!!!!!?
[04:12] <farous_away> if you changed it recently just restartx log out and in again
[04:13] <Buxexa> how I restart the x?
[04:13] <farous_away> !tell adem about restricted formats
[04:13] <farous_away> Buxexa: just logout and login again
[04:13] <Seveas> Buxexa, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[04:14] <instabin> thank you
[04:14] <adem> why do u have to be na ididot
[04:14] <adem> *ididot
[04:14] <adem> i done all that on the site.
[04:14] <dotChad> earn money by just inviting ppl: http://resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?dotchad - subscribe and pass to others (not spam or malware)
[04:14] <Seveas> !tell adem about attityde
[04:14] <Seveas> !tell adem about attitude
[04:15] <dark`zzz> there are any .deb package with the "cube" game? (that first person shooter game)
[04:15] <instabin> !azureus
[04:15] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:15] <adem> if ur gonna show me websiite that can help me whats the use of you being here?
[04:15] <farous_away> adem that was for me
[04:15] <Blackhold> when be released the next version of ubuntu?
[04:15] <Blackhold> the last is novembers version?
[04:15] <dark`zzz> !tell dark`zzz  about attitude
[04:15] <Ramunas> how do i remove some packet with its all config files ?
[04:15] <phos-phoros> requested by Seveas: "f*er", bwahahahahaaha
[04:16] <amphi> Ramunas: apt-get remove --purge
[04:16] <rod> Does someone know a good howto for this:  I have a ubuntu install on USB Drive. BIOS doesn't support USB-booting.   How to boot from the USB drive via a Floppy then?
[04:16] <Seveas> Blackhold, Ubuntu versions come in april and october
[04:16] <amphi> rod: perhaps 'smart boot manager'
[04:16] <amphi> rod: assuming your bios doesn't support booting from usb devices
[04:17] <rod> amphi: yeah that's correct... Ill check smart boot manager out, i think i heard about it somewhere before... Thanks
[04:17] <adem> !source
[04:17] <ubotu> adem: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:17] <phos-phoros> congrats Seveas , for keeping the peace (or even, the channel free from spammers/etc)
[04:18] <adem> where can i get a decent source.list file from ?
[04:18] <Seveas> !tell adem about sources
[04:18] <Seveas> !source is <reply> see sources
[04:18] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[04:20] <janno> If i run windows key logger with wine. Then is key logger going to work and save my clicks or it just doesnt work?
[04:20] <Ng> janno: it's blatantly not going to work
[04:21] <janno> Ehh good then :D
[04:21] <dan_t> hello
[04:21] <Ng> janno: of course the best way not to get a key logger is to not run one
[04:22] <dan_t> i tryed to upgrade to dapper on my ibook. i have some problems with xorg. the rendering is quite broken. it's a known problem? someone has a solution/workaround?
[04:22] <dark`zzz> there are http://yeknan.free.fr/blog/fichiers/deb.breezy/cube_20040522-4_i386.deb , but i wanna cube_20040522-4_amd64.deb , there are some src package?
[04:22] <amphi> rod: does sbm work for a usb device? if not, perhaps http://www.osloader.com/
[04:22] <adem> !tell Seveas about cocksmokers.
[04:23] <Ng> some people just don't want to be helped i guess
[04:23] <Seveas> that ban was a tiny little bit too wide... :)
[04:23] <rod> amphi: im checking the website, will let you know asap if you're interested? :)
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> wow. all of optus net
[04:23] <amphi> rod: I am, somewhat
[04:23] <amphi> rod: I didn't read anything about sbm WRT usb when I glanced at it just now
 lucky greg isnt here
[04:24] <farous_away> Ng: less work is better some people need to read before they ask ;)
[04:24] <janno> !comilers
[04:24] <ubotu> janno: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:24] <janno> oops
[04:24] <janno> :S
[04:24] <janno> !compilers
[04:24] <ubotu> janno: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:24] <Seveas> !tell janno about ompiing
[04:24] <Seveas> !tell janno about compiling
[04:24] <janno> ty
[04:25] <_jason> tell Seveas about spelling
[04:25] <Seveas> !lart _jason
[04:25] <virogenesis> haha
[04:25] <rod> amphi: i installed sbm on a floppy... I dont think the program has any usb drivers whatsoever, still im going to reboot and give it a shot... Will be back here after the try.. Se ya :)
[04:25] <amphi> rod: good luck
[04:25] <rod> thnx
[04:27] <kevin__> i got a question with apt-get install
[04:27] <_jason> kevin__: just ask
[04:27] <kevin__> i want install mplayer and it say this
[04:27] <_jason> kevin__: don't paste here
[04:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell kevin__ about mplayer
[04:27] <kevin__> root@linux:/# apt-get install mplayer
[04:27] <amphi> kevin__: or paste the one relevant line ;)
[04:27] <kevin__> Reading package lists... Done
[04:27] <kevin__> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:27] <kevin__> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[04:27] <kevin__> root@linux:/#
[04:27] <amphi> !tell kevin__ about mplayer
[04:27] <Dasnipa`> !beerpong
[04:27] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dasnipa`
[04:28] <Ng> kevin__: try mplayer-586
[04:28] <kevin__> ok
[04:28] <_jason> kevin__: read the page ubotu sent you, you may need other things
[04:28] <Ng> kevin__: you need to have the universe and multiverse repositories set up too
[04:28] <ltatkinson> Afternoon all.
[04:28] <kevin__> same question
[04:28] <Psi-Jack> Is there a font package that has the core Microsoft fonts, such as Arial, Courier, etc?
[04:28] <farous_away> Psi-Jack: msttcorefonts
[04:28] <kevin__> i meant same thing*
[04:29] <amphi> Psi-Jack: and beloved MS Comic Sans ;)
[04:29] <Psi-Jack> farous_away: Heh, thanks. :)
[04:29] <_jason> kevin__: have you read the page linked to you?
[04:29] <kevin__> i am now...
[04:29] <Blackhold> seveas do you know if ubuntu versions will have airport support?
[04:29] <farous_away> yw :)
[04:29] <_jason> kevin__: it will tell you how to enable multiverse
[04:29] <Psi-Jack> farous_away: Hmm, is that not in an official repository?
[04:30] <farous_away> !find msttcorefonts
[04:30] <kameron> anyone successful in playing mkv (matroska) files in mplayer?
[04:30] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[04:30] <amphi> Blackhold: that's a kernel issue - I've not heard of such support
[04:30] <farous_away> ^   ^
[04:30] <Seveas> Blackhold, airport cards are already supported, airport extreme is not completely supportable but dapper will probably have preliminary support for it
[04:30] <rod> amphi: too bad, sbm only displayed supported and detected installs (like my other linux installs) but nothing on the USB drive
[04:30] <rod> amphi: no options to search or manually add it neither
[04:31] <rod> amphi: what was that 2nd program you mentioned?
[04:31] <janno> Is gnu make default installed in ubuntu?
[04:31] <amphi> rod: http://www.osloader.com/
[04:32] <Blackhold> Seveas: okay
[04:32] <Blackhold> the april's october's version will be called dapper?
[04:32] <kevin__> thank you _jason for the links...
[04:32] <_jason> kameron: yes, but I compiled my own
[04:33] <Blackhold> will be the now unstable dapper?
[04:33] <kameron> _jason, compiled your own mplayer?
[04:33] <_jason> kameron: yeah
[04:33] <kameron> alright _jason
[04:33] <_jason> kameron: I don't think default has mkv support, but I'm not sure
[04:34] <ltatkinson> Anyone tried the SPARC port of Ubuntu ???
[04:34] <Seveas> !tell Blackhold about dapper
[04:34] <rod> amphi: i quote: OSL2000 can boot most bootable devices provided it is recognized by your system BIOS at boot time.
[04:34] <amphi> rod: ah :(
[04:34] <Seveas> ltatkinson, for the sparc port: poke fabbione :)
[04:34] <rod> too bad, I'd think a k8n-e would be able to support USB
[04:35] <bhearsum> i'm running breezy right now, and every 3-4 days i have to restart sysklogd, or else i cannot su up to root. does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[04:35] <Blackhold> Seveas: ok
[04:35] <Blackhold> Then I think that I'll download the unstable version
[04:35] <Blackhold> and install it into my powerbook g4
[04:36] <ltatkinson> Seveas: I've already sent him a mail, but thanks.  ;-)
[04:36] <janno> Is gnu make default installed in ubuntu?
[04:36] <pirast> janno: no.
[04:36] <_jason> janno: yes, once you install it
[04:37] <janno> But where i can get it?
[04:37] <_jason> janno: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:37] <tatters> anyone use snor-mysql and acidlab?
[04:37] <tatters> snort-mysql
[04:37] <Blackhold> thnks bye
[04:37] <janno> ok
[04:38] <ion> hi guys...
[04:41] <janno> Ok its installed i have file wich is for gnu make how i can runit in gnu make or something :S
[04:42] <janno> just make doesnt find 1 file callled makefile.shared
[04:42] <ion> well see you later .....
[04:42] <_jason> janno: did you read the link from ubotu about compiling?
[04:42] <DUMAiSO> I have just installed mysql in ubuntu, what shoud I do know to setup login/password and start the connections?
[04:43] <DUMAiSO> !mysql
[04:43] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:43] <janno> little :D OK its open i will read it again :D
[04:44] <Linux_whore> how do i update my locate database in ubuntu?
[04:45] <nuxil> uptadedb
[04:45] <nuxil> * updatedb
[04:46] <nuxil> Linux_whore thats not ubuntu spesific.
[04:46] <janno> ./configure --PREFIX=/opt :S
[04:46] <janno> oops
[04:46] <janno> :S
[04:46] <janno> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:46] <janno> 
[04:46] <bronze> Linux_whore: slocate -u
[04:46] <_jason> janno: you have to be in the directory with 'configure' in it, the one you untarred
[04:47] <_jason> janno: what are you compiling anyway>
[04:47] <bronze> nuxil, urm - sorry, didn't want to step on your answer.
[04:47] <Linux_whore> which one do i use? updatedb or slocate -u?
[04:48] <Seveas> Linux_whore, makes no difference iirc
[04:48] <janno> ehh 1 game :P
[04:48] <bronze> Linux_whore: Either one
[04:48] <nuxil> bronze np
[04:48] <djisola> hi
[04:49] <damnhil>  what software do you use for webcam recording?
[04:49] <djisola> i ve found these pics today.. http://iamerasmus.eltridente.org/juanje/ue/img003.jpeg.html  is this the final design for dappers ubuntu-install?
[04:49] <Linux_whore> i am using the driver pcl3 for a xerox printer. i tryed to locate the drivers config file and didnt find any. where could it be?
[04:50] <munzir> hi, I don't have any clue whether this is related here or offtopic. I just want to know when I copy files using cp or scp which order is followed? It's not alphabetically, so what?
[04:50] <nuxil> damnhil maybe zappit
[04:50] <janno> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/eduke32/eduke32_src_20051117.zip?download <-- i'm tryng too compile this game
[04:51] <nuxil> janno what game is that
[04:51] <janno> About EDuke32
[04:51] <janno> 
[04:51] <janno> A modified version of JFDuke3D (a modern port of 3D Realms's Duke Nukem 3D) aimed at furthering mod development capabilities.
[04:52] <_jason> janno: I search for duke nukem in the repositories and get overkill - bloody 2D action deathmatch-like game in ascii-art, that sounds amusing
[04:52] <deefzi> http://hae.monster.fi/getjob.asp?JobID=39620011&AVSDM=2006%2D02%2D13+06%3A17%3A00&Logo=0&cy=FI&brd=1&ss=0&lid=2516&sort=rv&vw=b
[04:52] <Seveas> munzir, quite random
[04:53] <Linux_whore> do all printer drivers have a .conf file? i am looking for the .conf file to the pcl3 driver because that is what Ubuntu 5.10 uses for the Xerox DocuPrint M750 printer. the printer is not working. it worked in fedora.
[04:53] <deefzi> would be a dream job for someone perhaps :p
[04:53] <jsgotangco> _jason, lol that's a good find
[04:53] <Seveas> deefzi, hehe cool :)
[04:53] <janno> But i'd liked too learnig compiling my self :S
[04:54] <munzir> Seveas: Really? I thought these kind of things could never be random!
[04:54] <freshmint> has anyone experiences with webcams here? how can i acces my philips to u cam 2 ?
[04:54] <Seveas> munzir, it's not really random :)
[04:55] <Guillaume> is there a way to enable mp3 playing in rhythm box after I had installed specified codecs on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:55] <janno> I installed that game but command overkill is not found
[04:56] <_jason> janno: I just installed it and it loaded
[04:56] <janno> with command overkill? :S
[04:56] <_jason> janno: yeah
[04:56] <janno> :S
[04:56] <janno> soo strange
[04:57] <munzir> Seveas: so could it be explainable in a way that a poor guy like me can understand? ;) (READ: don't tell me to check the source)
[04:58] <Seveas> munzir, that what I'm going to tell you since I never actually bothered enough to find it out myself :)
[04:58] <janno> oo it loaded
[04:58] <Toothpick> Will ubuntu detect my other running linux installation if I try to install it to hd so grub can choose?  Or will I have to make those changes manually?
[04:58] <Seveas> munzir, I assume it's ordered by directory entry, which iirc is a hash table and has no constant or strict ordering
[04:58] <janno> But where i can find servers? :S
[04:59] <Seveas> But I may very well be talking rubbish now :)
[04:59] <_jason> janno: no idea, you probably need to start one.  I doubt there are many around.  Search the web
[04:59] <Creeture> munzir: There's nothing really random about it. cp will act on the list of files you give it. If you're doing a *, it depends on how your shell sorts it. If you're using the bash shell, doing echo * will tell you the order the same as cp * /other/place would.
[05:00] <munzir> Seveas: even rubbish is better than sheer ignorance ;) if it's by directory entry then I should expect ls to make the same order, no?
[05:01] <Seveas> munzir, ls does its own ordering iirc
[05:02] <kevin__> can i install konqueror in gnome?
[05:02] <StrayLlama> Hi there, could anybody help me with a pci network card problem on Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[05:02] <Seveas> yes
[05:02] <Seveas> ^- kevin__
[05:02] <kevin__> ok
[05:02] <gnomefreak> kevin__: i would say yes but you will end up getting libs from kde
[05:02] <kevin__> thanks
[05:03] <kevin__> the thing is
[05:03] <Seveas> !tell StrayLlama about anybody
[05:03] <guillem101> We have recently purchased a pair of Dell Dimension 3100. I've checked that breezy livecd fails because USB incompatibility (the thing only has usb inputs for keyboard and mouse). I've just seen that dapper livecd works. Is is safe to install dapper there? or is it better to try with opensuse (which seems to be working as people states for that machine).
[05:03] <kevin__> i cant play the mp3s files from my network....
[05:03] <kevin__> unless i transfer the mp3s files to this machine...
[05:03] <StrayLlama> The specific problem is I get an error -16 when the card is probed, I've no idea what that is or what to do about it?
[05:03] <rapha> Hi all!
[05:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kevin__ about mp3
[05:04] <slavik-lt> I am trying to install xsupplicant, but it need iwlist.h, where do I get it?
[05:04] <rapha> What does "Warning: Illegal offset type" mean exactly?
[05:04] <xerophyte> what is the good site for linux news ?? most update sites, other than www.slashdot.org, linux.com, or ww.lwn.net
[05:04] <StrayLlama> It's an ne2k clone
[05:04] <slavik-lt> xerophyte: slashdot.com :P
[05:04] <munzir> Creeture: I tried echo * but it sorts them alphabetically but cp is not!
[05:05] <Creeture> munzir: What is your cp command?
[05:05] <slavik-lt> looks like libiw-dev is the correct package
[05:05] <_jason> munzir: you could always download the source for cp
[05:08] <slavik-lt> I like that you can mouse over an mp3 and it gets played back, does osx do that?
[05:08] <Creeture> munzir: If you want to see what it's doing, do this: ( set -x ; your_cp_here ; set +x )
[05:09] <ideafix> i wanna join debian
[05:09] <slavik-lt> ideafix: install ubuntu :)
[05:09] <_jason> Creeture: what does set -x do?
[05:09] <ideafix> DEBIAN
[05:09] <Creeture> _jason: man bash -- it's in there
[05:09] <slavik-lt> ideafix: #debian ???
[05:10] <ideafix> 474
[05:10] <Creeture> _jason: In particular, do a search on abefhkmnp in the man page to get you to the "set" command
[05:11] <gnomefreak> ideafix: type /join #debian
[05:11] <_jason> Creeture: ah got it, thanks
[05:11] <farous_away> Toothpick: you can do that when during the installation using custom partition
[05:11] <ideafix> [474]  #debian You're banned from that channel
[05:11] <slavik-lt> ideafix: you weren't elitist enough for them :P
[05:11] <rapha> Can somebody help me, please?
[05:11] <captain_legless> anyone know how to get a marvell yukon 88E8036 pci-e fast ethernet controller to work in ubuntu 5.10 linux?
[05:11] <rapha> Oh
[05:11] <rapha> wait
[05:12] <rapha> This is the wrong channe
[05:12] <rapha> This is the wrong channel
[05:12] <ideafix> im too 1337 4 them
[05:12] <slavik-lt> rapha: stop spamming
[05:12] <AndyR> rapha, what right channel?
[05:12] <rapha> slavik-lt: Stop being an asshole. 2 similar lines are hardly spamming.
[05:12] <rapha> AndyR: ##php :-)
[05:13] <gnomefreak> it looks like i can pick make up where i left off  :)
[05:13] <slavik-lt> rapha: you send 5 lines of text in a rather short period of time.
[05:13] <Bergamini> how can I submit material to wiki? I made an icon, up to 128x128, simple ubuntu logo
[05:13] <AndyR> rapha, you get kline'd here for 4 lines :)
[05:13] <slavik-lt> btw, is there a way to automatically do 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' ?
[05:14] <captain_legless> also i partitioned a seperate fat 32 drive that ubuntu doesn't seem to see at all
[05:14] <Creeture> captain_legless: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=220663
[05:16] <rapha> AndyR: I see... well, it's a rather big channel
[05:17] <Creeture> captain_legless: But, in short, you should just have to modprobe sk98lin and ifconfig your interface.
[05:17] <rapha> slavik-lt: Sorry then. Thought you meant the 2 similar lines.
[05:18] <naetrick> How can I fix these errors at boot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[05:18] <munzir> Creeture: I can't understand what set -x did but using it made the copy alphabetically!! I get lost now!
[05:19] <avinoam> I'm trying to compile qemu, anyone know how to tell it to use gcc3x instead of 4?
[05:19] <guillem101> Is dapper stable enough to be worthy to install?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> :( gaim2.0 wont alloow you to use checkinstall anymore :(
[05:19] <sidd> What does an I/O error mean?
[05:20] <kane__> hi everybody... is there anybody that can help me... every time I try to install something using package manager it installs and then I get this error message: E: lilypond-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1...  I believe this is due to unsuccesfull instalation. I tried to uninstall lilypond-data package but when I try to uninstall I get the same message.... How do I get rid of it???
[05:20] <guillem101> sidd, Input/Output error
[05:20] <gnomefreak> sidd: input output is I/O
[05:20] <Creeture> munzir: The set -x tells the shell to show you what it's going to do. If you're using wildcards (*) it'll expand it.
[05:20] <avinoam> anyone? how to chose with gcc version make will use?
[05:20] <selinium> how can you tell what is using /dev/dsp ?
[05:20] <shedi> kane__, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:20] <munzir> Creeture: ok but it expanded it properly (alphabetically)!
[05:21] <guillem101> avinoam, check /etc/alternatives
[05:21] <sidd> guillem101 it says that when I try to open an ".ext" file on a read-only disk.  Is there any way that I can edit the file?
[05:21] <kane__> shedi, what does it do?
[05:21] <avinoam> guillem101, what am i adding there?
[05:21] <shedi> kane__, it is supposed to be a genaral package fix, voodoo style
[05:21] <sidd> gnomefreak how do I fix an I/O error?
[05:21] <guillem101> avinoam, placing the right link for cc so uses the desired version of gcc
[05:22] <avinoam> guillem101, how do i do that?
[05:22] <guillem101> sidd, make sure the disk is not damaged.
[05:22] <_jason> avinoam: export CC=gcc-3.4, will tell it to use gcc-3.4
[05:22] <guillem101> avinoam, __jason is probably more right than me.
[05:23] <soundray> kane__, your problem is probably due to the script /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilypond-data.postinst throwing an error.
[05:23] <avinoam> _jason, i run that command in /etc/alternatives or as a flag in configure?
[05:23] <kane__> shedi, I get the same message... stg like this... Removing lilypond-data ...
[05:23] <kane__> /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilypond-data.postrm: line 23: /usr/bin/kpsewhich: No such file or directory
[05:23] <kane__> dpkg: error processing lilypond-data (--remove):
[05:23] <kane__>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[05:23] <kane__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:23] <kane__>  lilypond-data
[05:23] <kane__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:23] <_jason> guillem101: you can probably set it up your way, but at least for me the install of 3.4 didn't set up alternatives
[05:23] <sidd> guillem, I don't think the disk is damaged because it's an Ipod, and Ipod mounts OK when I plug it into the port
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ok after runnning make install why wont the app launch am i missing a step that the readme left out?
[05:23] <kane__> soundray, how do I fix it?
[05:24] <soundray> kane__, install package tetex-bin to fix this. And please don't paste errors here.
[05:24] <_jason> avinoam: in the terminal before running everything, just do 'export CC=gcc-3.4', then ./configure, make, checkinstall as usual
[05:24] <guillem101> avinoam, I guess that you export CC previous to make. Setting up alternatives is to leave that behaviour as a default forever...
[05:24] <avinoam> _jason, after i compile, do i need to put anything back?
[05:24] <guillem101> avinoam, in other words, do "export CC=gcc-3.4" for instance previous to make
[05:24] <sidd> guillem101,  I don't think the disk is damaged because it's an Ipod, and Ipod mounts OK when I plug it into the port
[05:24] <soundray> kane__, it's probably a package management bug. lilypond-data should depend on tetex-bin
[05:24] <avinoam> ah gotcha
[05:24] <_jason> avinoam: nope
[05:25] <kane__> soundray, sorry... I got carried away... I'll try what you suggested...
[05:25] <avinoam> _jason it didn't work, i got an error that gcc looks like gcc 4.x
[05:25] <_jason> avinoam: did you install 3.4?
[05:25] <selinium> gnomefreak, I would install checkinstall and run that instead of make install. Make install creates the deb, i am not sure if it installs it for you?
[05:25] <soundray> kane__, oops, it *does* depend on tetex-bin...
[05:25] <avinoam> _jason, i installed 3.3 and ran your command with 3.3
[05:25] <steve60> Hi there
[05:25] <gnomefreak> selinium: cant use checkinstall on gaim2.0 anymore
[05:25] <selinium> ok
[05:25] <guillem101> sidd, I don't know Ipod very much... but it looks like the thing does not allow you access such files....
[05:25] <rod> hi
[05:26] <steve60> can anyone tell me is there another program out there that i can use other then xsane cause its not working for me
[05:26] <rod> i thought gnome had an option to modify Grub... ?
[05:26] <soundray> kane__, a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin' may fix it.
[05:26] <_jason> avinoam: try giving it the full path, export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4, probably
[05:26] <selinium> gnomefreak, so is the app installed?  sudo dpkg -l <app>
[05:26] <steve60> !downloads
[05:26] <ubotu> steve60: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <avinoam> _jason, still no good
[05:26] <gnomefreak> no make install did not install it
[05:27] <ltatkinson> Gotta shoot, cya.
[05:27] <gnomefreak> should i try dpkg -i?
[05:27] <xerophyte> well said : Use your brain for what you are working on right now, and use external storage for everything else
[05:27] <selinium> gnomefreak, see if it is installed first! If it responds with 'ii' at the beginning it is installed, if not install the deb
[05:27] <_jason> avinoam: well you can change the gcc link temporarily I suppose, just remember to put it back
[05:28] <avinoam> _jason, how do i do that?
[05:28] <soundray> steve60, kooka
[05:28] <_jason> avinoam: what are you compiling anyway?
[05:28] <soundray> steve60, but if xsane doesn't work, it may be a driver or firmware issue.
[05:28] <avinoam> _jason, qemu
[05:28] <captain_legless> i'm really new to linux in general, whats this statement mean? modprobe sk98lin and ifconfig your interface, and how to i go about doing that? is there a command prompt in ubuntu like MSdos?
[05:28] <steve60> Soundray i have kooka installed it dont work
[05:28] <avinoam> _jason, maybe there is a flag for configure?
[05:28] <soundray> steve60, is your imaging device supposed to be supported?
[05:28] <steve60> i am using a Microtek Slimscan C3 Par
[05:28] <sidd> guillem101, it's also says that there is an I/O error with a database file when I use gtkpod (Itunes).
[05:28] <kane__> How do I make that after I reinstall ubuntu I will have the packages I had installed before???
[05:29] <_jason> avinoam: check with --help, but it usually mentions CC
[05:29] <instabin> how do i update azureus to the newest version
[05:29] <xerophyte> caplink811_log, become root or use sudo .. modprobe sk98lin
[05:29] <steve60> yeah Xsane says it supports this device but it wont work
[05:29] <instabin> 2.4.0.0
[05:29] <xerophyte> caplink811_log, type ifconfig
[05:29] <gnomefreak> nm i found the issue same as before ./config failed for some reason it doesnt want to install on dapper
[05:29] <instabin> should it auto update like windows version?
[05:29] <avinoam> _jason how do i set it in alternatives?
[05:30] <naetrick> How can I fix these errors at boot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[05:30] <_jason> avinoam: you can try sudo update-alternatives --config cc
[05:30] <soundray> steve60, there seem to be two drivers out there. Which one do you use?
[05:30] <captain_legless> how do i become root?
[05:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell captain_legless about root
[05:30] <gnomefreak> captain_legless: sudo -i
[05:30] <steve60> Dont know mate
[05:30] <steve60> im a bit new to this
[05:30] <kane__> soundray, what if I deleted the lilypond-data.postinst???
[05:30] <captain_legless> where do i put that information in tho
[05:30] <naetrick> captain_legless: Sudo, however, there is a way to create your own root password so you don't need sudo
[05:30] <captain_legless> i've only used linux twice in my life
[05:30] <avinoam> _jason, it says that there is only 1 program which provides cc
[05:31] <soundray> kane__, not a good idea.
[05:31] <naetrick> Then I recommend you use sudo :)
[05:31] <_jason> avinoam: one sec, let me try to ./configure qemu
[05:31] <steve60> i downloaded the latest Xsane but i cant install it, Says something about CC Complier ???
[05:31] <soundray> kane__, what do you get when you 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin'
[05:32] <soundray> steve60, are you on breezy?
[05:32] <steve60> yeah
[05:32] <gnomefreak> steve60: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:32] <kane__> soundray, i'm just installing tetex-bin right now... but I think I deleted the lilypond-data.postinst file...
[05:32] <steve60> whats that do Gnomefreak
[05:33] <gnomefreak> it is a meta package that includes gcc compiler
[05:33] <steve60> oh right
[05:33] <kameron> _jason, do you know a cvs build of mplayer that works? cvs is broken right now.
[05:33] <_jason> avinoam: ok do this: .configure --cc=gcc-3.4
[05:33] <gnomefreak> steve60: that will give you want you need to finish what your doing
[05:33] <soundray> steve60, I recommend that you stick with Ubuntu's version of xsane until you've run a few checks: 'sudo sane-find-scanner' first. Paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please.
[05:33] <_jason> kameron: I don't, I just used the 1.0pre7try2
[05:34] <kameron> oh, okay _jason maybe i'll try that one
[05:34] <avinoam> _jason, i think that worked
[05:34] <soundray> steve60, compiling your own sane package is a last resort.
[05:34] <avinoam> _jason, you use qemu?
[05:35] <_jason> avinoam: nope
[05:35] <avinoam> _jason, ah ok
[05:35] <steve60> Soundray the version Xsane i have is 0.97 the newest version is 0.99 and i think that 0.99 is the version that supports my scanner
[05:35] <steve60> i have tried updating it with sudo apt-get install xsane
[05:35] <soundray> steve60, are you positive that 0.97 doesn't?
[05:35] <steve60> but it just installs the 0.97 version
[05:36] <steve60> well thats how i read it on the website
[05:36] <steve60> every time i run xsane it just tells me "devices not found"
[05:36] <soundray> kane__, deleting files in /var/lib/dpkg will only get you deeper into trouble. See if you can reinstall lilypond-data when tetex-bin is fixed. If not, I'll send you the postinst script so you can replace it.
[05:37] <werneck> I'm used with other linux distributions but new to ubuntu... where is the better place to setup a script to run on booting ? /etc/init.b/bootmisc.sh ?
[05:37] <soundray> steve60, 'sudo sane-find-scanner'. Paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please.
[05:37] <rev0> hi
[05:38] <Psi-Jack> What is a very lightweight httpd that I could install to temporarily direct /every/ hit to one single .html file, regardless of the URI?
[05:38] <gnomefreak> steve60: im gonna agree with soundray compiling an app is last resort if the app is in the repos than everything is set up for it the libs are gonna be the right version and so on
[05:39] <rev0> problem: mplayer sayz that xv video drivers are not avaible
[05:39] <JloR> How is the standard x86 of ubuntu regarding dual CPUs ? Does that work out of the box - or does it take some extra to make it work?
[05:39] <rev0> anyone knows a solution?
[05:39] <cdubya> could someone help me out figuring out why I can't seem to send mail from this machine (running Breezy)?
[05:39] <_jason> rev0: did you install your video drivers?
[05:39] <kane__> soundray, should finish in a moment
[05:39] <gnomefreak> cdubya: what mail client are you using?
[05:40] <jarei> I have a question: I'm trying to run "apt-get install nfs-kernel-server" and get "Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[05:40] <jarei>  'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)'" but I don't have the CDROMs anymore. I tried using a 'Install CD' I burned from the ubuntu download site today, but that didn't work. Is there any workaround for me? Thanks.
[05:40] <noke> hi
[05:40] <beaz> i have a problem
[05:40] <rev0> _jason well yes...it works on x11 drivers but it's SLOOOOW...
[05:40] <ares> hi
[05:40] <steve60> well i ran sudo sane-find-scanner it said not check parrallel ports
[05:40] <beaz> can anyone see it? http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/104/
[05:40] <cdubya> gnomefreak, thunderbird, tried evolution, sylpheed, and pretty much the kitchen sink.........
[05:40] <tristan_> cdubya, what is your mail client?
[05:40] <avinoam> another question. I tried installing a two-disc program with wine, but it wouldn't let me switch disks in between
[05:40] <_jason> rev0: I think that happens if you don;t install nvidia or ati drivers, but you've done this?
[05:40] <steve60> is there a way i can enable it to find the scanner
[05:40] <tristan_> cdubya, did you correcty configure it?
[05:40] <soundray> steve60, two questions: How is your scanner connected? And what webpage were you referring to wrt. 0.97 vs 0.99?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> cdubya: what email servers are you using?
[05:40] <steve60> by par
[05:41] <noke> i've ran out of batery, and when i rebooted the laptop grub didnt start no more...i'm with a live CD, can anyone help me ?
[05:41] <rev0> _jason i made server install on notebook and then add xorg.I dont have ati or nvidia graphic card
[05:41] <gnomefreak> cdubya: gmail,hotmail,blah blah blah
[05:41] <cdubya> I don't understand what happened.....I installed VoIP (consequently, outgoing mail worked FINE before that.....), but I didn't change anything as far as machine settings on this machine and/or my router.....
[05:41] <cdubya> gnomefreak, charter
[05:41] <steve60> the version i have installed is 0.97 the version i presume i need is 0.99 i think
[05:41] <cdubya> .net
[05:41] <_jason> rev0: oh, then I don't know
[05:41] <soundray> steve60, what website?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> cdubya: i would make sure everything is right the server settings and the ports they use
[05:42] <steve60> one sec
[05:42] <rev0> _jason is there any DEB package that gives xv drivers?
[05:42] <steve60> i'll get it
[05:42] <kane__> soundray, finished installing but what now?
[05:42] <tntc> This is a very very basic question i bet! How do I make a shortcut to my homedrive on the panels? I keep getting an error saying the place I'm trying to go is invalid!
[05:42] <cdubya> gnomefreak, port 25, using user and passwd
[05:42] <cdubya> gnomefreak, pointed at smtp.charter.net
[05:42] <steve60> Soundray http://www.xsane.org/
[05:42] <JloR> Anyone know if the standard Ubuntu install (x86) detects and sets up dual CPUs?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> cdubya: port 25????? are you sure thats the port charter uses?
[05:42] <_jason> rev0: not that I know of... but maybe
[05:43] <avinoam> anyone here use wine?
[05:43] <soundray> kane__, 'sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get --reinstall install lilypond-data'.
[05:44] <cdubya> gnomefreak, AFAIK......I looked at their docs.....and got no help from their techs....saying it's all me.....
[05:44] <soundray> steve60, that page does not mention microtek.
[05:44] <soundray> steve60, the reason I doubt your interpretation is that the microtek driver has been around for a long time.
[05:45] <tntc> anyone?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> cdubya: give me a few im looking at thier site now
[05:45] <soundray> steve60, I suspect your problem is in the parallel port device support.
[05:45] <neoginn> yee haw
[05:45] <steve60> well how do i enable this Port then
[05:46] <steve60> if its not seeking this port ??
[05:46] <neoginn> dude i have no idea i dont even know this ubuntuu
[05:46] <neoginn> i just installed it yesterday
[05:46] <cdubya> gnomefreak, I just don't understand what happened between setting up the VoIP and now.....I haven't changed a setting that I can think of.....and it worked before.
[05:46] <soundray> tntc, just take the Home Folder icon in "Places" and drag it to the panel.
[05:46] <noke> i've ran out of batery, and when i rebooted the laptop grub didnt start no more...i'm with a live CD, can anyone help me ? how can I get grub to work again?
[05:47] <soundray> steve60, look on the web while I'm doing the same.
[05:47] <tntc> soundray, man I told you it was easy thanks a bunch Soundray
[05:47] <naetrick> How can I fix these errors at boot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[05:48] <kane__> soundray, I got lilypond configuration completed... hope it means something good...
[05:48] <soundray> kane__, I take you've install lilypond too (to actually make it useful).
[05:48] <soundray> *installed
[05:49] <gnomefreak> cdubya: i cant find anything on setting up mail clients for charter but if you changed the VoIP than im gonna assume theres where the issue lays
[05:49] <steve60> Soundray http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html ok this is the website i was refering to
[05:49] <kane__> soundray, yep
[05:49] <soundray> kane__, happy composing then :)
[05:49] <willy_> naetrick: did you compile your own kernel or upgrade to Dapper ?
[05:49] <beaz> ich knnt echt kotzn
[05:50] <naetrick> willy: Yes, compiled my own kernel
[05:50] <kane__> soundray, thanx a lot man... it's been driving me crazy... those error messages...
[05:50] <willy_> naetrick: ok it looks like you didn't include support for your filesystem type built directly into your kernel.
[05:50] <naetrick> willy: I didn't
[05:51] <cdubya> gnomefreak, I didn't change anything other than to change the placement of the gizmo they sent......at first the guy told me to put in front of the router and it crippled my net connection, so I called again and they told me to set it behind my router, which I did.....and from the time I had it in front of my router to the time I put it behind the router.
[05:51] <naetrick> but when I do, I get a bunch of other errors
[05:51] <naetrick> And I'm using an initrd image
[05:51] <willy_> naetrick: you have an rd
[05:51] <willy_> naetrick: ok
[05:51] <naetrick> It's _really_ weird. I've never had this problem, except right now with Ubuntu... :|
[05:52] <willy_> naetrick: you sure the image was generated ok ?
[05:52] <soundray> steve60, you told me that, and I'm pretty sure that you misinterpreted something there. Now upgrading to 0.99 is a *lot* of trouble, ie. you shouldn't do it unless absolutely necessary.
[05:52] <naetrick> willy: Yes. And I've recompiled it about 15 times, differently each time
[05:52] <soundray> steve60, oops, sorry, old post.
[05:52] <gnomefreak> cdubya: im not real sure. i would call them and ask them how come you gave me this and now my mail doesnt work   worked before you gave me this   btw what is THIS????
[05:52] <willy_> naetrick: you added the image in menu.lst as well so it get's loaded properly ?
[05:53] <naetrick> also tried just with the .config from the kernel that comes with ubuntu, no good
[05:53] <naetrick> willy_: I'm using LILO, as I have XFS
[05:53] <steve60> hey your the one with the more knowhow then me if you say dont i wont
[05:53] <gnomefreak> looks like i just got flight 4 updates :)
[05:53] <naetrick> But yes, and I use the same options for my old kernel, and it boots fine
[05:53] <naetrick> willy_: Here is my lilo.conf: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QmujfE54.html
[05:53] <soundray> steve60, still reading, give me a couple of minutes.
[05:53] <steve60> kk
[05:54] <willy_> naetrick: I haven't used lilo for about 4 years :)
[05:54] <gnomefreak> cdubya: it sounds like something they gave you messed it up but why only mail? why not anything else?
[05:54] <soundray> steve60, can you give me that model name again, it scrolled off
[05:54] <steve60> Microtek Slimscan C3
[05:54] <naetrick> willy_: Yeah, I'd prefer GRUB, it's much better, but it's XFS support is really, really bad
[05:54] <steve60> Parallel Port only
[05:54] <soundray> steve60, tx
[05:55] <steve60> np
[05:55] <SeyToN> hello
[05:55] <gnomefreak> cdubya:  did you have to mess with settings when they gave you this "gizmo"?
[05:55] <kane__> does anyone know of some MAC adress changer for ubuntu... I need it...
[05:55] <willy_> naetrick: That seems ok, are there any other errors on bootup like kernel panic ?
[05:55] <SeyToN> can i ask a question about p2p?
[05:56] <SeyToN> or i have to wait till someone finish...?
[05:56] <Gimpd> !unrar
[05:56] <ubotu> Gimpd: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:56] <steve60> ask away
[05:56] <gnomefreak> SeyToN: ask if someone knows they will be glad to answer
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Gimpd about rar
[05:56] <Mussorgsky> how do I set my keyboard layout? I set the correct layout in gnome (english with dead keys) but it's not working, it's working as us english without dead keys
[05:57] <Gimpd> !rar
[05:57] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:57] <SeyToN> whats a good p2p for gnome breeze
[05:57] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[05:57] <steve60> howdy
[05:57] <cdubya> gnomefreak, sorry, got called out on the phone.....
[05:57] <cdubya> gnomefreak, yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at....why just outgoing.....?
[05:57] <cdubya> gnomefreak, I can get mail fine.
[05:58] <SeyToN> anyone recomend me a good p2p for gnome breeze?
[05:58] <naetrick> willy_: No, but before, when I built XFS into my kernel, I'd get them
[05:58] <steve60> im using Frostwire
[05:58] <naetrick> Again, everything is fine with the other kernel
[05:58] <steve60> its like Limewire
[05:58] <gnomefreak> cdubya: i wish i knew its kind of odd. you didnt change anysettings when they gave you whatever they gave you?
[05:58] <SeyToN> cheers man
[05:58] <SeyToN> thank you
[05:59] <steve60> np
[05:59] <SeyToN> any others you remcomed me?
[05:59] <cdubya> gnomefreak, nope......my machine was still sitting behind the router, which was sitting behind the gizmo at first......then I moved the gizmo behind the router and got my net connection back, thankfully, but now I can't send mail
[06:00] <gnomefreak> cdubya: what is this gizmo?
[06:00] <steve60> Hey gnomefreak how'd you highlight the text so it stands out
[06:00] <steve60> on here
[06:00] <cdubya> gnomefreak, my router is getting a valid IP from the modem and this machine is getting the right DNS for sure (I verified the numbers in the network setup), and this machine is setup on DHCP
[06:00] <cdubya> gnomefreak, it's the device to handle the VoIP calls
[06:00] <gnomefreak> steve60: huh? i didnt highlight text
[06:01] <gnomefreak> did i?
[06:01] <[FR33_B33R] > hey all!
[06:01] <[FR33_B33R] > !beer
[06:01] <naetrick> steve60: It happens when someone says your nick
[06:01] <steve60> when you speak to me it's red text
[06:01] <steve60> oh right
[06:01] <steve60> i got ya
[06:01] <steve60> cheers
[06:01] <gnomefreak> steve60: when i say your name it should be red
[06:02] <steve60> i getcha
[06:02] <naetrick> willy_: Any other suggestions?
[06:02] <steve60> is soundray still about
[06:02] <soundray> steve60, yes
[06:02] <gnomefreak> cdubya: than i would tell them whats going on. VoIP maybe using the port that smtp is using
[06:02] <[FR33_B33R] > hey
[06:02] <[FR33_B33R] > anyone using DC++ here?
[06:02] <steve60> did ya find it on that website ??
[06:03] <soundray> steve60, found the scanner, and indeed it's been supported for a *long* time.
[06:03] <steve60> how come it does not detect it then
[06:03] <GNOME_dude> How do I remove a dpkg I installed?
[06:03] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : I'm using it now and then...
[06:04] <steve60> i'll paste that outcome on that website the paste bin shall i
[06:04] <soundray> steve60, it won't autodetect it. You have to tell sane which backend to use.
[06:04] <engla> GNOME_dude: you should be able to find it in synaptic
[06:04] <engla> GNOME_dude: and remove it there
[06:04] <gnomefreak> lol cute i get a lil purple icon when i need to reboot :)
[06:04] <GNOME_dude> engla: ahh damn thanks :-)
[06:04] <cdubya> gnomefreak, OK, I can call them, but I guess I'm not seeing how it could be hijacking smtp when it's sitting behind the router.....
[06:04] <steve60> soundray how ???
[06:04] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, i tried a couple of other proggies but they were all sad... i cant apt-get dc++ right???
[06:05] <kane__> hi
[06:05] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : no you can't, you've to compile the linux port from the CVS. But it's too unstable to be usable, atleast for me when running it under dapper
[06:05] <dr-slizer> So i'm stuck with valknut :/
[06:06] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, i hate the motif like interface valknut has :)
[06:06] <soundray> steve60, try xsane microtek2:/dev/lp0 (if lp0 is where your scanner is connected)
[06:07] <heeeelp> when I boot instead of grub, my screen goes blank....I with a live CD now! plz help me
[06:07] <soundray> steve60, oh, and make sure it is connected and switched on ;)
[06:07] <steve60> har har
[06:07] <redisdead> hi
[06:07] <soundray> heeeelp, do you know the name of your root partition?
[06:08] <heeeelp> yes
[06:08] <Gimpd> would i be able to apt-get azureus?
[06:08] <redisdead> does somebody use dapper here ?
[06:08] <soundray> heeeelp, what is it?
[06:08] <[FR33_B33R] > !rar
[06:08] <ubotu> I heard rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:08] <heeeelp> hda6
[06:08] <foxpaul> how are all the exim experts doing today? willing to offer some help to someone confused? :)
[06:08] <steve60> not knowing how many LP ports there are i tried LP0 -1 2 3 and 4
[06:08] <Gimpd> apt-get install azureus ?
[06:08] <[FR33_B33R] > anyone know of a solution for unraring rars ?!?!?
[06:08] <steve60> neither work
[06:08] <Gimpd> i've added almost all the repos- no result.
[06:08] <steve60> oh and 0 did not work either
[06:08] <Gimpd> [FR33_B33R] , - having the same prob :(
[06:09] <soundray> heeeelp, open a terminal and enter 'sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt ; grub-install --root-directory /dev/hda6 /dev/hda'
[06:09] <BlueEagle> Why on earth do you want to use DC+ in the first place?
[06:09] <soundray> heeeelp, correction: open a terminal and enter 'sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --root-directory /dev/hda6 /dev/hda'
[06:09] <kane__> hey how do I make my computer dual boot... coz every time I choose windows I get some sort of error concerning chainloader.... how do I fix it...??
[06:09] <steve60> soundray it tells me invaild argument on LP0 1 2 3 4
[06:09] <redisdead> Gimpd: you can download azureus on its website, if you've got a jvm it'll run.
[06:09] <anto9us> does dovecot dictate whether to use maildir/mbox formats or should it be set to match the configuration as dictated elsewhere?
[06:09] <redisdead> somebody use dapper here ?
[06:09] <Mussorgsky> how do I set my keyboard layout? I set the correct layout in gnome (english with dead keys) but it's not working, it's working as us english without dead keys
[06:10] <heeeelp> Unrecognized option `--root-directory'
[06:10] <[FR33_B33R] > Gimpd, 7zip unrars under windows but not in linux... wtf mate
[06:10] <Gimpd> redisdead, about to do tht....if you ask me, apt-get is a bit lousy handling packages. I like gentoo-portage better :)
[06:10] <SeyToN> who can recomed a client of soulseek please?
[06:10] <Gimpd> [FR33_B33R] , noted.
[06:10] <maestro> how to install GDM themes on ubuntu?
[06:11] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : install the "rar" package from multiverse
[06:11] <BlueEagle> !gdm
[06:11] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[06:11] <BlueEagle> !info gdm
[06:11] <ubotu> gdm: (GNOME Display Manager), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.0.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1523 kB, Installed size: 10680 kB
[06:11] <mskogly> I downloaded the latest firefox for linux, but how do I install it over the existing copy, without breaking it etc.
[06:11] <kane__> anyone know any mac adress changing program... I have something like that in windows but I need it in ubuntu too...
[06:11] <soundray> heeeelp, use my nick so I know you're talking to me. Correction: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory /mnt /dev/hda'
[06:12] <heeeelp> soundray, Unrecognized option `--root-directory'
[06:12] <SeyToN> !soulseek client
[06:12] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SeyToN
[06:12] <soundray> steve60, do you have the parport module loaded?
[06:12] <steve60> soundray??
[06:12] <soundray> heeeelp, what kind of live CD do you have?
[06:12] <j2daosh> how do i mount an .iso file?
[06:12] <heeeelp> --root-directory=/mnt ?
[06:12] <soundray> steve60, do you have the parport module loaded?
[06:13] <mskogly> i had hoped that i would be able to update firefox through synaptic but doesnt seem like it
[06:13] <JloR> It seems my ubuntu install is stuck at "Testing network archive" (translated from my native language)... 50%... How long does it take to time out (I assume it does at some point?) ...?
[06:13] <heeeelp> soundray, the one that comes with breezy badger
[06:13] <soundray> heeeelp, that's right, sorry.
[06:13] <heeeelp> ok
[06:13] <j2daosh> and not in a bunch of folders... i wanna mount it as an .iso not a -o loop
[06:13] <BlueEagle> maestro: does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/GdmRoadmap?highlight=%28gdm%29 help?
[06:13] <LinuxJones> I can't re-install ubuntu-desktop WTF ?
[06:13] <Mussorgsky> can someone help me with keyboard layout issues?
[06:14] <kane__> anyone know any mac adress changing program... I have something like that in windows but I need it in ubuntu too...
[06:14] <daved> if i roll my own .deb using checkinstall, is there any way i can add some r-deps to the resulting package?
[06:14] <heeeelp> soundray, thx
[06:14] <daved> i'd like to roll my own package but still have the dependencies auto-installed
[06:14] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, how do i unrar? what do i get by apt-getr?
[06:14] <LinuxJones> kane__: you can do that from within Linux already
[06:14] <steve60> Soundray how'd you load the Parport module
[06:14] <aridese> hi, what's the script that launches GDM and X on system boot?
[06:14] <kane__> LinuxJones, I didn't know that... How?
[06:15] <soundray> steve60, 'sudo modprobe parport'
[06:15] <LinuxJones> kane__: I am not 100 % sure how, best to hit google
[06:15] <soundray> steve60, you didn't change the case on the xsane command, did you?
[06:16] <steve60> soundray case????
[06:16] <qmanman> kane__:Ifconfig wont do it?
[06:16] <soundray> steve60, capital/lowercase letters
[06:16] <deblianoid> hello
[06:17] <deblianoid> need help configuring dri on my ubuntu
[06:17] <kane__> qmanman, I didn't try it. In fact I dont know what it is...
[06:17] <qmanman> kane__: gimme a sec
[06:17] <deblianoid> is xorg 7.0 from drake usable?
[06:17] <steve60> soundray you mean Xsane microtek2:/dev/lp0
[06:17] <naetrick> How can I fix these errors at boot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AE1c5i99.html
[06:17] <JloR> So, how long should it take - approximately - to test ones network archives (I think it means repositories) during install? Because, I've spent some 10 minutes staring at it saying 50% done now..
[06:17] <aridese> what's the startup script that launches X called?
[06:17] <mod^> umm..
[06:17] <soundray> steve60, no, I mean xsane microtek2:/dev/lp0
[06:17] <mod^> My MySQL does not work
[06:18] <steve60> i tried that the first time
[06:18] <qmanman> kane__: type "ifconfig" in a terminal window to check it out
[06:18] <mod^> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 <- I installed it with that guide
[06:18] <mod^> now I get "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'"
[06:18] <mod^> blabla
[06:18] <JloR> oops, nevermind... now it did something
[06:18] <steve60> soundray ok i got another query come up now saying access denied
[06:18] <mod^> so I added skip-networking to my.cnf, but it didn't help
[06:18] <LinuxJones> kane__: here's a link >> http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
[06:18] <mskogly> synaptic says i have the most up to date version of firefox, 1.0.7, is there no newer build for ubuntu?
[06:19] <soundray> steve60, excellent. Try 'gksudo xsane  microtek2:/dev/lp0' now.
[06:19] <piggah> 'lo everyone
[06:19] <deblianoid> is there someone that has an ati radeon mobile 9200 with 3d working?
[06:20] <qmanman> I have an X700 with 3d working.....
[06:20] <SeyToN> to install a file .deb do i have to extract it?
[06:20] <qmanman> kane__: I got a ton of hits on google with "ifconfig change mac"
[06:20] <deblianoid> qmanman you use the gpl drivers?
[06:20] <steve60> soundray warning box popped up telling me about running xsane in Root
[06:20] <[FR33_B33R] > SeyToN, type !deb
[06:20] <qmanman> deblian: no, ATI
[06:21] <SeyToN> cheers
[06:21] <deblianoid> is it possible tu use the gpl drivers and have 3d accell. working?
[06:21] <qmanman> is ANYONE here running Xubuntu?
[06:21] <qmanman> deblianiod: I've heard it might be possible with the gatos drivers
[06:22] <steve60> soundray i tried gksudo xsane  microtek2:/dev/lp0 it warns me about running in root i continued and then it tells me invalid argument
[06:22] <qmanman> the gatos folks are the ones that had 3d working with ATI cards before the radeon series.....
[06:22] <deblianoid> I think that with dri is possible, I read so... but still can't make it work
[06:22] <soundray> steve60, you need to be in the lp group. Do a 'sudo adduser steve lp'. You're going to have to login again. Then try scanimage -d microtek2:/dev/lp0 -n
[06:23] <SeyToN> root@linux:/home/kevin/Desktop# ./FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[06:23] <SeyToN> bash: ./FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb: Permission denied
[06:23] <steve60> sudo adduser steve lp
[06:23] <soundray> steve60, and if you get any errors, paste them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you can't make sense of them.
[06:23] <qmanman> deblianoid: well I can say that I've spent way too much time with ATI cards and 3D under linux only to use it once in a while
[06:23] <qmanman> dont waste your time unless you really need to
[06:23] <qmanman> otherwise buy and nvidia card =p
[06:24] <qmanman> err an
[06:24] <steve60> soundray brb
[06:24] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, how do i get the userlist in valknut?
[06:24] <deblianoid> I have a laptop :(
[06:24] <qmanman> mmmmm that sucks
[06:24] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : You can use file-roller for unraring if you want to. If you want to use the command line, rar -e <archive> should work
[06:24] <deblianoid> but I just want to use the gpl drivers+drm and have 3d working
[06:24] <naetrick> Geeze, I think I might just go Gentoo
[06:24] <qmanman> why the hell do the menus in XFCE4 have to be so screwed damn it
[06:25] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : isn't the userlist displayed? It has always been displayed by default for me
[06:25] <user__> hey guys
[06:25] <Gimpd> !java
[06:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:25] <qmanman> naetrick: is that a threat? :-)
[06:25] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, yes i see the userlist
[06:25] <aridese> how can i speed up linux boot up time?
[06:25] <Gimpd> !javadebs
[06:25] <qmanman> aridese: why?
[06:25] <soundray> aridese, check out bum (no offence)
[06:26] <soundray> !info bum
[06:26] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[06:26] <naetrick> aridese: Configure a custom kernel
[06:26] <njs12345> deblianoid: which card do you have?
[06:26] <aridese> qmanman: it's slow, it takes like three minutes
[06:26] <soundray> naetrick, always try something simple first :)
[06:26] <deblianoid> njs12345, ati radeon 9200 mobile
[06:26] <yuyudhana> How do I set the icons for all pcap files the same as the icon for ethereal ?
[06:26] <aa_> can I make apt remove libraries that the requiring application has been removed? I have a load of orphaned libs.
[06:26] <aridese> naetrick: there's no script file that i can edit to delete un-needed programs being loaded?
[06:26] <user__> i run it under vmware and it takes about the same. 3 mins
[06:26] <aridese> soundray: ok
[06:26] <njs12345> deblianoid: consider yourself lucky :P
[06:26] <naetrick> aridese: Ubuntu enabled just about everything in the kernel, even stuff you don't need. Also, it doesn't configure everything for speed... for example, if you have an HT/Dual Core CPU, it won't enable it... among other things :)
[06:26] <deblianoid> njs12345, why?
[06:27] <Balduran> hello
[06:27] <naetrick> However, I've tried using a custom kernel in Ubuntu, and for some reason, it's not working
[06:27] <njs12345> because the 9200s are supported well
[06:27] <naetrick> God knows why; I've done it a million times with Gentoo
[06:27] <Balduran> how can i make screenshots on kubuntu??
[06:27] <njs12345> ati released the specs a while back
[06:27] <aridese> naetrick:  i see, how would i build myself a custom kernel? any tutorials?
[06:27] <deblianoid> njs12345, yes i know, but can't get 3d accel. to work
[06:27] <soundray> naetrick, because ht/dual core needs smp, and smp kernels tend to have more issues.
[06:27] <maestro> how to install GDM themes on ubuntu?
[06:27] <soundray> !kernelcompile
[06:27] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[06:27] <naetrick> soundray: I've never had those issues.
[06:27] <aridese> thanks
[06:28] <aridese> also, what's the difference between the "recovery" and "normal" start up modes?
[06:28] <aridese> different kernels that dont start X?
[06:28] <aa_> anyone on how to make apt remove libs that aren't needed any more?
[06:28] <deblianoid> does anyone use xorg 7.0?
[06:28] <soundray> naetrick, anyway, Ubuntu provides pre-compiled smp kernels.
[06:28] <Mordof> What other things are there besides gnome?
[06:29] <DreamHacker> KDE maybe
[06:29] <farous_away> !wm
[06:29] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous_away
[06:29] <qmanman> XFCE
[06:29] <Profichilla> aridese the recovery thing starts the system in single-user mode
[06:29] <soundray> naetrick, given the goals of Ubuntu, it makes good sense to install a safe, if somewhat less optimized configuration by default.
[06:29] <farous_away> mordof there are a lot try searching for window managers in google
[06:29] <naetrick> soundray: Hmm, I might just use that, with my issues. Where can I find them?
[06:29] <Mordof> farous_away, k
[06:29] <farous_away> desktop env though are kde and gnome
[06:29] <miL> Installing Ubuntu, at 97% "registering documentation:  please, it hopes...
[06:29] <soundray> naetrick, apt-cache search linux-image | grep smp
[06:29] <farous_away> mordof i like ion3, fluxbox and openbox
[06:30] <yuyudhana> [REPEAT]  How do I set the icons for all pcap files the same as the icon for ethereal ? Dabbling with gnome-mime needed?
[06:30] <aridese> Profichilla, i see, the problem is with my X crashing at normal mode, but when i run recovery and just run gdm, it works fine
[06:30] <LinuxJones> The ubuntu-desktop has a broken package that prevents gnome from being runnable.
[06:30] <naetrick> soundray: Darn, no sources?
[06:30] <Mordof> farous_away, ahh ok
[06:30] <Mordof> farous_away, cool, thanks
[06:30] <miL> Installing Ubuntu, at 97% "registering documentation:  please, please wait..." and after 10 mins, the same
[06:30] <naetrick> I need sources to compile drivers into them
[06:30] <njs12345> maestro: untar
[06:30] <njs12345> and then run in terminal
[06:30] <soundray> naetrick, sources are the same for smp as for non-smp ;)
[06:30] <njs12345> sudo cp /path/to/theme /usr/share/gdm/themes
[06:30] <njs12345> oops
[06:30] <deblianoid> shutdown now -r
[06:30] <njs12345> make that
[06:31] <naetrick> soundray: That's true... but I'd like a pre-configured kernel to just compile it with no problems, /hopefully/
[06:31] <njs12345> sudo cp /path/to/theme /usr/share/gdm/themes -R
[06:31] <maestro> njs12345,  and next?
[06:31] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, how do i knbow if the user is active or passive
[06:31] <[FR33_B33R] > ???
[06:31] <steve60> soundray ok restarted trying XSane again still now luck
[06:31] <miL> Helme please Installing Ubuntu, at 97% "registering documentation: please wait..." and after 10 mins, the same
[06:31] <SeyToN> i dont get i have i file called FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb and when i put in the shell doesnt want to recognize it
[06:31] <qmanman> can someone do a search for me on their desktop for *.desktop and tell me where they find them in their home dir?
[06:31] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : there's a little brick wall on the passive users icons
[06:31] <soundray> steve60, 'scanimage -d microtek2:/dev/lp0 -n' -- paste errors to pastebin if not making sense.
[06:31] <njs12345> and then run gdmsetup
[06:31] <heitor> Hello people
[06:31] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, isnt that dc++?? am talking about walknut
[06:31] <aridese> Hello Person
[06:32] <SeyToN> can someone tell how to install a .deb file please?
[06:32] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : same thing in valknut ;)
[06:32] <aridese> SeyToN, dpkg
[06:32] <naetrick> SeyToN: man dpkg
[06:32] <daved> if i roll my own .deb using checkinstall, is there any way i can add some r-deps to the resulting package?
[06:32] <steve60> soundray scanimage: open of device microtek2:/dev/lp0 failed: Invalid argument
[06:32] <blekos> has been any new release of D.Drake apart from flight3?
[06:32] <[FR33_B33R] > dr-slizer, everyone show as active here :)
[06:32] <njs12345> also
[06:33] <njs12345> has anyone tried the DAAP rhythmbox sharing yet?
[06:33] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : you've to try to connect to a user before the client knows it's active or passive, works the same in DC++
[06:33] <[FR33_B33R] > damn
[06:33] <[FR33_B33R] > ill use search :)
[06:33] <heitor> I have a problem about printing 80 characters in a laser printer
[06:33] <njs12345> I tried sharing my music with another PC running Rhythmbox over a wlan
[06:34] <cion> hey all i Have a kde question: if I install Kubuntu with kde 3.4 can i update it to kde 3.5 later?
[06:34] <soundray> steve60, not having a scanner, I get the same error here. Do you have a parallel printer, so we could verify your parallel port working?
[06:34] <SeyToN> so eg "dpkg -i|--install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb"
[06:34] <dr-slizer> [FR33_B33R] : Search should also work for valknut to decide if a user is passive or active, depending on how the search result is delivered =)
[06:34] <steve60> soundray the printer here is a parallel but its running on USB and is working via USB at the moment aswell
[06:35] <njs12345> SetTon: the | means or
[06:35] <Mordof> i wanna try kde but am not sure how to install it
[06:35] <njs12345> *SeyTon
[06:35] <dr-slizer> seyton: dpkg -i package.deb, or dpkg --install package.deb, not both :)
[06:35] <SeyToN> ohhhhh
[06:35] <[FR33_B33R] > !deb
[06:35] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:35] <cion> Mordof: install kubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <soundray> steve60, it would take a while to test your parallel port using the printer. Let's think of something else first.
[06:36] <[FR33_B33R] > ^^^ READ DUDE !!!
[06:36] <SeyToN> but in the shell i can select the .deb file
[06:36] <cion> hey all i Have a kde question: if I install Kubuntu with kde 3.4 can i update it to kde 3.5 later?
[06:36] <soundray> steve60, do you have more than one parallel port?
[06:36] <steve60> soundray on the back of the PC or the Scanner
[06:36] <gamma> cion: yea of course you can
[06:36] <soundray> steve60, PC.
[06:36] <heitor> who could helpme about my problem printer?
[06:37] <steve60> Soundray i have one Parallel on the pc and 2 on the scanner
[06:37] <steve60> soundray and it is plugged into the right port on the scanner
[06:37] <soundray> steve60, one of the two connections on your scanner is for passthrough (connecting a printer).
[06:37] <ulirudde> Hi, how do I update my AVG anti-virus. It's asking for root permission.
[06:37] <cion> gamma: that would get trouble of some kind?
[06:37] <soundray> steve60, does your scanner work under another operating system?
[06:38] <SeyToN> if i have i .deb in the folder do i have to go the directory of the .deb file?
[06:38] <SeyToN> in the shell?
[06:38] <steve60> soundray it worked fine under windows XP Pro
[06:38] <heitor> I tray choose the location using dpkg-reconfigure locales, localeconf etc, but I can't print right
[06:38] <steve60> soundray that was using the Twain in Adobe
[06:38] <steve60> soundray or something like that i think
[06:39] <Mordof> cion, im just gonna try to install it from synatpic
[06:39] <gamma> cion: nope, you should be fine, if you use the package manager there won't be any issues and i think your config files will be ported over
[06:39] <soundray> steve60, how old is your scanner?
[06:39] <Mordof> cion, i didnt think it would be in there but it is
[06:39] <miL> Helme please Installing Ubuntu, at 97% "registering documentation: please wait..." and after 10 mins, the same
[06:39] <cion> Mordof if you really want kde then switch to Kubuntu distro
[06:40] <steve60> soundray i dont know it's my dads im trying to set this up for him if i cant get this working he will want me to reinstall Windows and i have spent all day yesterday setting up most of the stuff on here from help from guys like yourself and the forum aswell
[06:41] <captain_legless> how do you get to the command line in ubuntu 5.10
[06:41] <soundray> steve60, roughly, is the scanner's age better expressed in weeks or in years?
[06:41] <ulirudde> Hey ladies and gents, does anyone know how to update AVG anti-virus? It's asking for root permission
[06:42] <bigmoe> sorry but im using ubuntu and i do not have the build for modifying the modules can someone tell me what is the package for it
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> bigmoe:  'build-essential' is one for the basic gcc stuff.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> or is it build-essentials
[06:42] <Ng> build-essential
[06:42] <steve60> soundray " did not know scanner came with a sell by date" its about 1999 i think
[06:42] <Ng> if it's kernel modules you want to build you'll also need gcc-3.4
[06:43] <soundray> steve60, I'm asking because the model has changed apparently, and that could have affected its compatibility with sane.
[06:43] <engla> SeyToN: you can just type the path to it in the shell
[06:43] <steve60> soundray that what it says on the warrenty sticker on the side
[06:43] <njs12345> captain_legless: ctrl+alt+f(1-6)
[06:43] <soundray> steve60, but if it's that old, the driver should be okay.
[06:43] <ulirudde> Does anyone know the answer to my question?
[06:43] <soundray> !patience
[06:43] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[06:43] <soundray> ulirudde, use sudo
[06:43] <steve60> soundray yeah it would be my luck just to get screwed up scanner
[06:43] <gnomefreak> debian site is down :(
[06:44] <ulirudde> ok ill try that.
[06:44] <soundray> ubuntu site is up :)
[06:44] <echylo> can someone tell me why 51% of my memory is cached?
[06:44] <njs12345> echlyo: cached?
[06:44] <njs12345> do you mean in use?
[06:44] <echylo> well, look
[06:44] <soundray> echylo, because that's better than letting it lie around unused. Linux is smart that way.
[06:44] <sean> i have troubles with make xconfig  something about qt
[06:45] <njs12345> yeah
[06:45] <gnomefreak> im looking for latest enlighenment and i cant find a deb for it the site refers you to debian :(
[06:45] <steve60> soundray remember you told me that "sudo modprobe parport" am i suppose to get any feedback of that command at all
[06:45] <bigmoe> one more thing where iam new to ubuntu so where is the file for modifying the startup modules
[06:45] <soundray> steve60, no.
[06:45] <steve60> soundray oh right
[06:45] <njs12345> the kernel does stuff like read files into memory proactively
[06:45] <soundray> steve60, but I would expect it to be loaded by default.
[06:45] <sean> my QT Installation... how to fix that
[06:45] <njs12345> steve60: if you run `dmesg | grep parport' you might get some things though
[06:45] <mod^> When I'm installing ISPconfig, it seems to crash my MySQL
[06:46] <mod^> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p6  <- In that ./Setup phase
[06:46] <soundray> steve60, that's a good suggestion (njs12345). Also try 'dmesg | grep lp'
[06:46] <echylo> njs12345, look http://aequitas.homelinux.org
[06:46] <echylo> 54% Cached
[06:47] <echylo> it's says only 38mb free
[06:47] <captain_legless> how do you get to the command line in ubuntu 5.10
[06:47] <steve60> ok want me to paste the outcome in that pastebin thing site
[06:47] <bigmoe> iam new to ubuntu so where is the file for modifying the startup modules
[06:47] <njs12345> yup
[06:47] <gnomefreak> captain_legless: applications>accesories>terminal
[06:47] <njs12345> most of that is probably files and things
[06:47] <captain_legless> THANK YOIU
[06:47] <soundray> steve60, yes, why not, we'll have a look at it.
[06:47] <gnomefreak> captain_legless: yw
[06:47] <AnsiC> http://wbn.ath.cx/problem.txt
[06:48] <AnsiC> :(
[06:48] <steve60> !pastebin
[06:48] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:48] <njs12345> I only have 8mb free, out of my 512
[06:48] <heitor> Are there anybode to speak in protuguese?
[06:48] <kane__> qmanman, sorry I had to ran out... could you copy what you wrote about ifconfig...
[06:48] <echylo> ah ok
[06:48] <njs12345> you'll notice that like none of your swap is being used though
[06:48] <echylo> then it looks like he keeps the memory safe
[06:48] <njs12345> if you run `free' in a terminal
[06:48] <gnomefreak> webboard is cool too :)
[06:48] <Mordof> cion, why do i have to switch distros if i want to try kde?
[06:48] <Mordof> cion, i already have everything setup with this installation, i dont want to re-do everything just to try something out
[06:48] <njs12345> which means that you're not running low or anything.. it's when you swap that you have problems :)
[06:48] <echylo> ok
[06:49] <gnomefreak> Mordof: all you have to do is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <echylo> well this is a mini server, but I prefer xfce as wm
[06:49] <steve60> soundray done
[06:49] <sean> anyone know kernel rebuilding ?
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody use kooldock with kde?
[06:49] <Mordof> gnomefreak, ahh i see.. and that will override ubuntu or something?
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me about the installing
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Mordof: no it will install kde +apps
[06:50] <soundray> steve60, that's all looking good.
[06:50] <njs12345> you can run both at the same time if you want :P
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Mordof: you choose the one you want to boot into on the log-in page
[06:50] <Mordof> gnomefreak, ok, installing kde from synaptic would do the same thing though wouldnt it?
[06:50] <soundray> steve60, could you run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' in a separate terminal while you enter the scanimage command from above, and see whether any errors are logged?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Mordof: yes but kde will give you minimal apps with it
[06:51] <gnomefreak> for a full working kde desktop go with kubuntu-desktop it will give you pretty much everything you will need like ubuntu install did
[06:52] <Mordof> gnomefreak, k, i stopped the synaptic
[06:52] <heitor> Anybody has had problem printing somithing with 80 coluns in textmode?
[06:53] <soundray> heitor, does it print with a staircase effect?
[06:53] <steve60> soundray ok done that pasted it in the paste bin
[06:54] <cion> Mordof
[06:54] <Mordof> cion?
[06:54] <heitor> Soundray, could you explain-me, I don't understand
[06:54] <cion> Mordof yes it's more stable since u use not only desktop but programs and native environment
[06:55] <soundray> steve60, interesting... I'm going to have to educate myself on what hpiod is. Give me a few minutes.
[06:55] <Mordof> cion, you mean switching distros entirely?
[06:55] <cion> Mordof yes
[06:55] <Mordof> cion, i see
[06:55] <cion> Mordof u can try other desktops too (xfce= xubuntu-desktop)
[06:55] <soundray> heitor, this is an ancient problem with text mode on HP (and other) printers. Search for "staircase effect printer linux" or similar.
[06:56] <cion> Mordof but there are only 2 native projects Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[06:57] <freddie> need help in the termnail itwont let me type my root password
[06:57] <cion> freddie it does type it doesnt show u anything thow
[06:57] <ribaldjester> whats the best way to install nmap 4.01?
[06:57] <freddie> ribaldjester o ok
[06:58] <heitor> Soundray, thanks.
[06:58] <ribaldjester> apt-get doesn't work....do I neeed to compile from source?
[06:58] <linkd> ribaldjester: quiet possibly. at least thats what i'd do
[06:59] <engla> ribaldjester: yes, or  find a .deb from someone else
[06:59] <freddie> ribaldjester it say Authentication failure
[06:59] <ribaldjester> ok..
[06:59] <ribaldjester> think this will work...http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81580&highlight=installing+nmap
[07:00] <ribaldjester> looks like he has .deb packages for 4.01
[07:00] <engla> ribaldjester: doesn't sound like a good idea
[07:00] <engla> or wait
[07:00] <ribaldjester> better to just compile?
[07:01] <engla> are the packages made for your version of ubuntu?
[07:01] <steve60> soundray i'll have to give up for now
[07:01] <soundray> steve60, it seems that hpiod is trying to manage all printing aspects. Since sane is trying to access a printer port, it interferes. You could try '/etc/init.d/hplip stop' and try scanimage again to verify.
[07:01] <engla> then it could work
[07:01] <daniel073> hallo zusammen
[07:01] <soundray> steve60, can you run this one test? I think we're close.
[07:01] <steve60> ok
[07:01] <soundray> Hi daniel073, vielleicht willst du zu #ubuntu-de
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody use kooldock with kde?
[07:01] <daniel073> sorry :)
[07:02] <daniel073> da wollte ich tatschlich hin
[07:02] <freddie> cion it says authentication failure
[07:02] <steve60> soundray failed on the first  ok on the second
[07:02] <soundray> steve60, eh?
[07:03] <heitor> Soundray: My problem is I tray to print in textmode a basic text by vi with some characteres 1234567890 repeat for 8x as equal in 80 characters, but the last characterer is impressed on the next line, do you understand me?
[07:03] <steve60> soundray have a look on that pastebin
[07:03] <steve60> soundray i gotta go
[07:03] <daved> i'd like to roll my own package but still have the dependencies auto-installed
[07:04] <daved> if i roll my own .deb using checkinstall, is there any way i can add some r-deps to the resulting package?
[07:04] <soundray> steve60, okay.
[07:04] <steve60> soundray i appreciate all the help you have give me thank you
[07:04] <steve60> soundray seeya
[07:04] <steve60> soundray thanks again
[07:05] <soundray> heitor, understood.
[07:06] <soundray> heitor, what printer is this?
[07:07] <thegladiator> is it the problem with the architecture  of linux that cd's cant be ejected simply ?
[07:07] <heitor> soundray, ah, I'm traing to printing using lpr -Pps1 teste (In this case my printer called ps1)
[07:07] <soundray> thegladiator, no, it is a feature.
[07:07] <soundray> heitor, are you on Ubuntu breezy?
[07:08] <heitor> soundry, Yes, ubuntu 5.10
[07:08] <thegladiator> even when the terminal is opened with the cdrom directory you cant eject the cd
[07:09] <thegladiator> perhaps linux shud try to handle this automatically by allowing automounting and unmounting
[07:09] <thegladiator> just an opinion
[07:09] <engla> thegladiator: there was a recent howto on the forums
[07:09] <thegladiator> acout ?
[07:09] <thegladiator> about* ?
[07:09] <engla> thegladiator: a thing to change to make it just let you press the cd-drive's button to eject it
[07:10] <soundray> thegladiator, the design is in line with Ubuntu's priorities.
[07:10] <naetrick> Ok, now when I boot I get "VFS: Please append a correct root= option" and "unknown block (hd0,0)". My root="/dev/hda3" in my lilo.conf, but why does it give hd(0,0)? Shouldn't that be hd(0,2)?
[07:10] <engla> thegladiator: and this change is going into dapper
[07:10] <heitor> soundray, I've loocked in other pcs using debian, in especific /etv/enviroment and others files like locales etc and nothing at the moment
[07:10] <thegladiator> ah thank you
[07:10] <soundray> heitor, if I remember correctly, ubuntu does not come with lpr enabled by default. Do you know what you installed to get lpr working at all?
[07:10] <echylo> anyone can advise me a p2p program which you can control through SSH or web interface?
[07:11] <affettuoso> is there a good menu app i can install for fluxbox?
[07:11] <Earthen> could someone help me with a SSH error
[07:11] <soundray> echylo, any program can have a web interface if you use vncserver :)
[07:11] <thegladiator> lets wait for dapper then....
[07:11] <naetrick> ahh, a fluxbox man :D
[07:12] <thegladiator> hope it comes pre release date
[07:12] <echylo> soundray, what do you mean?
[07:12] <irvined> Hello, I'm having some sound problems on an IBM T42 with Breezy, its a fresh install, the system been is audible but no other sound is heard.  I've checked that it is not muted, it also worked in windows so I know the card is working. According to the guides it should just work, however i noticed on a suse install the hardware mute had been set, i've checked in windows that this is not the case and install tpb where i can mute and unmute the c
[07:12] <irvined> ard. Any ideas?
[07:12] <echylo> soundray, better, I'll look it up
[07:12] <carpediem> Hmm.  I can push the CD-eject on my system.
[07:12] <affettuoso> naetrick: im going to be if i ever find out how to change res in it
[07:12] <Earthen> I was connected to my server it was working fine then got dissconnected  and now all it get is "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[07:12] <Earthen> "
[07:12] <thegladiator> that happens when the cd is unmonted
[07:12] <thegladiator> in that case you can do that
[07:12] <soundray> !info vnc-common
[07:12] <naetrick> affettuoso: Edit your xorg configuration file
[07:13] <thegladiator> anways dappr is gonna have so no probs...this one is just diff ...but not a big prob
[07:13] <naetrick> There's no "built-in", like in GNOME.
[07:13] <carpediem> affettuoso: depends on what you want.  You can always run gnome-panel (suggest also running gnome-settings-daemon if you do)
[07:13] <affettuoso> naetrick: if i change the file than it will change gnomes res too wont it?
[07:13] <janno> !deb
[07:13] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:13] <dreamer_> !tar.gz
[07:13] <heitor> soundray, I configured my printers using cups
[07:13] <ubotu> I heard tar.gz is a compressed archive similar to a zip file.  tar zxvf filename.tar.gz to extract.
[07:14] <cfk> does the LiveCD have a virus scanner for windows?
[07:14] <naetrick> affettuoso: Yes
[07:14] <dreamer_> grr, can;t find the tar.gz :/
[07:14] <bigmoe> someone know how to change to startup modules
[07:14] <cfk> or, if I put the HD into a Ubuntu box, is there a scanner I can apt-get?
[07:14] <affettuoso> ok brb let me boot to flux and try this
[07:14] <engla> bigmoe: which startup modules? Services?
[07:15] <soundray> heitor, okay, you probably installed cupsys-bsd as well. Could you just check with 'dpkg -l cupsys-bsd' (look for ii at the beginning of the line)
[07:15] <engla> cfk: you probably won'
[07:15] <engla> cfk: won't find a good scanner for windows that runs on linux
[07:15] <bigmoe> like most of them and where do i see them all of them
[07:16] <soundray> engla, what's wrong with clamav?
[07:16] <engla> bigmoe: you can install an app called 'sysv-rc-conf' that lets you edit the services that startup at boot
[07:16] <engla> soundray: i never tried it
[07:16] <engla> bigmoe: check with the 'make boot faster' howto on the forums
[07:16] <bigmoe> where do i find it on the ubuntu cd or on the web
[07:16] <heitor> soundray: Yes, I have cupsys-bsd package ubuntu
[07:16] <soundray> engla, well, how about retracting that statement then :)
[07:17] <engla> well allright
[07:17] <Gimpd> !apache
[07:17] <ubotu> somebody said apache was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[07:17] <engla> just sounded improbable to mee. But I never used windows
[07:17] <bigmoe> thanks
[07:18] <soundray> heitor, what printer do you have and which driver did you configure for it?
[07:18] <engla> bigmoe: you install that application with synaptic or apt-get. The howto is at ubuntuforums.org (search for it)
[07:18] <oonoon> hi, i run a sh script with sudo, and during the install, it says 'you're local user not superuser so you can do nothing. Bye' ; what can i do?
[07:19] <heitor> soundray: I have hp 4300dtn and I using hp drivers and all printer instalation  I done using cups
[07:20] <blekos> run as su
[07:20] <soundray> oonoon, try 'sudo -i' and then call your script
[07:20] <Gimpd> can anyone tell me how to edit my apache2 conf file?
[07:21] <oonoon> soundray, sudo -i sh script_name ?
[07:21] <reiki_work> guys I am at work and not on my Ubuntu machine at home. Can someone tell me if VMWare 5 is available as a package?
[07:21] <irvined> For reference all: I had to uncheck Line Jack sense from the volume control switch
[07:21] <mikel> hola
[07:21] <soundray> oonoon, no, 'sudo -i' <enter>, then call the script as root.
[07:22] <mikel> miL
[07:22] <mikel> soy miL
[07:22] <mikel> desde ubuntu
[07:22] <mikel> xD
[07:22] <oonoon> soundray, ok thanks
[07:22] <wrtpeeps> what is the package for nvidia drivers called
[07:22] <naetrick> Has anyone here built a custom kernel for Ubuntu
[07:22] <soundray> heitor, you could try HPLIP drivers instead of the regular HP ones.
[07:22] <wrtpeeps> please :)
[07:23] <oonoon> soundray, how do i exit the 'root login' on the console?
[07:23] <soundray> oonoon, exit
[07:23] <soundray> wrtpeeps, nvidia-glx
[07:23] <wrtpeeps> hmm
[07:23] <nny> hrmm.. ok before someone posts !ndiswrapper (i have it.. buggy sometimes, doesn't allow easy use of interface for my girl) i see that a 43XX broadcom module is loading at start-up
[07:23] <wrtpeeps> i installed that
[07:23] <heitor> Soundray: I'm not sure, but I think I'm using these drive
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> but i get the error that i dont support 16bit colour
[07:24] <i3dmaster> how to reconfigure network interface?
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> when i try to startx
[07:24] <nny> but i am trying to discern how this laptop activates the radio
[07:24] <oonoon> soundray, it doesnt work ; when i execute a bin, i still get 'permission denied'...
[07:24] <soundray> wrtpeeps, you also need to have the restricted modules package that fits your system. Run 'apt-cache search restricted modules'
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> ah
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> well, i am trying to install on vmware
[07:25] <affettuoso> oonOON USE SUDO
[07:25] <affettuoso> oops
[07:25] <soundray> oonoon, replace 'sudo -i' with 'sudo -sH' for a try.
[07:25] <affettuoso> sorry for caps
[07:25] <heitor> Soundray: But when I print something by openoffice for example, I don't have problem, just in textmode
[07:25] <oonoon> affettuoso, doesnt work, i said it above
[07:25] <soundray> affettuoso, shooting from the hip, aye?
[07:25] <blekos> run su
[07:25] <oonoon> soundray, "sudo: please use single character options
[07:26] <oonoon> "
[07:26] <blekos> then run the program
[07:26] <affettuoso> had to try :)
[07:26] <heitor> Soundray: Here in my job I have some users that need printing many things in textmode, especially latex code
[07:26] <soundray> heitor, if that setup works well with openoffice, don't touch it. Set up a new printer and try out different drivers for vi printing with that one.
[07:27] <i3dmaster> my network device uses to be eth0, but now it is eth0_clas... and can't bring it up. What's the problem?
[07:27] <affettuoso> sorry im not really here im looking for a desktop background changer thingy
[07:27] <nny> is there a dapper channel?
[07:27] <soundray> oonoon, sudo -s
[07:27] <lucasvo> affettuoso: just overwrite the image in a cronjob
[07:28] <affettuoso> lucasvo: you mean there isnt an easier way to change the background on flux?
[07:28] <lucasvo> affettuoso: I don't know
[07:28] <oonoon> soundray, tsss, neither
[07:29] <soundray> oonoon, you could enable root temporarily with 'sudo passwd', then 'su -'.
[07:29] <Seveas> OK EVERYONE (sorry for caps) if you are using Ubuntu right now: /msg ompaul *hug* I use Ubuntu
[07:29] <Seveas> He needs it :)
[07:29] <oonoon> soundray, i ll try this one
[07:30] <soundray> oonoon, recommend disabling root afterwards with 'sudo passwd -l'
[07:30] <ompaul> Seveas, no one did :-(
[07:30] <Seveas> ompaul, dang
[07:30] <wrtpeeps> soundray: i installed restricted modules, but i still get that i cannot support 16bit depth
[07:30] <affettuoso> lol
[07:30] <oonoon> soundray, ok ok thanks
[07:30] <Seveas> help the poor ompaul please
[07:30] <ompaul> its u and me kiddo against the world
[07:30] <wrtpeeps> i noticed that when i installed nvidia drivers, it aint listed in xorg.conf. should it be?
[07:30] <ompaul> 1 other one thanks there
[07:30] <heitor> soundray: Ok, I'll do the test and after I'll looking for you here, thanks
[07:31] <Seveas> teehee :)
[07:31] <soundray> wrtpeeps, use ubotu's instructions
[07:31] <soundray> !nvidia
[07:31] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:32] <kyo> how do I reset the default colors in x-irc?
[07:32] <bur[n] er_> x-chat?
[07:32] <affettuoso> what is x-irc?
[07:32] <wrtpeeps> !nvidia
[07:32] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:33] <kyo> I have the text so set so messed up I can't even see your replies
[07:33] <affettuoso> oh good i thought it was just me :)
[07:33] <kyo> brb
[07:33] <AndyR> does anyone know if the ati / new login problem is ati or gnomes problem?
[07:33] <dr-slizer> Too bad there's many IRC clients with X in their name :P
[07:33] <Roan> Kyo here. How do I reset the colors in x-chat?
[07:34] <petef> settings, preferences
[07:34] <affettuoso> in x-chat go into the settings and change it back :)
[07:34] <mark__> !tell mark__ about NTFS
[07:34] <meepy> I need some help, i cant seem to change the keyboard layout to danish, i tried EVERYTHING. Please help! I want me system in english, but keyboard in danish
[07:34] <affettuoso> ok there has to be a way to change background in fluxbox :(
[07:35] <calamari> hi
[07:35] <affettuoso> mark__: try /msg ubotu ntfs :))
[07:35] <_jason> affettuoso:fbsetbg -f file_of_background
[07:35] <calamari> whenever I insert a blank cd or dvd, a window pops up asking what I want to do.. can I disable this from coming up?
[07:35] <AndyR> meepy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <i3dmaster> does anyone know how to fix the network interface?
[07:36] <kyo> heh
[07:36] <affettuoso> _jason: thanks ill try it now
[07:36] <Adelmo> Hi
[07:36] <kyo> much better
[07:37] <kyo> heh
[07:38] <petef> hi jordan hows it goin dude
[07:38] <affettuoso> _jason: worked like a charm thank you so much :)
[07:38] <_jason> affettuoso: you'll need to put a command in your init file to keep it there when you login again
[07:38] <affettuoso> :(
[07:39] <_jason> affettuoso: I use: session.screen0.rootCommand:    fbsetbg -l, which will set it to whatever was used last
[07:39] <oonoon> how do i log on root when i enabled it ? i cant do it graphically
[07:39] <jordan> petef, pretty good
[07:39] <jordan> petef, just got outta class and ate a corndog
[07:40] <petef> cool man :)
[07:40] <affettuoso> _jason: whats the patha nd can i put it anywhere in the file?
[07:40] <_jason> oonoon: do you understand why root is disabled in the first place?  logging in as root graphically is a bad idea
[07:40] <soundray> oonoon, 'su -'
[07:40] <jordan> anyone know of a way to play divx files with ubuntu?
[07:40] <_jason> affettuoso: ~/.fluxbox/init, and yes I think anywhere is ok
[07:40] <soundray> jordan, mplayer
[07:40] <calamari> jordan: I use mplayer
[07:40] <petef> can's you play divx with mplayer
[07:41] <jordan> soundray, ok, I'll try it but I've never been a fan
[07:41] <petef> oh to late
[07:41] <affettuoso> ty _jason  brb
[07:41] <oonoon> soundray, damn, it still sees me as local user
[07:41] <calamari> jordan: do a custom build.. best speed and features
[07:41] <kyo> whats the best mp3 player for ubuntu?
[07:41] <jordan> calamari, how would I go about doing this
[07:41] <jordan> kyo, I like amaroK
[07:42] <soundray> oonoon, what is this script?
[07:42] <petef> i like xmms
[07:42] <oonoon> soundray, matlab install
[07:42] <jordan> xmms is awesome too
[07:42] <kyo> jordan, is that the default or do I have to install it
[07:42] <i3dmaster>  when I do ifconfig eth0_clas, it returns eth0_clas: error interface information: Device not found. The interface was named eth0. how to fix it?
[07:42] <soundray> oonoon, is this graphical?
[07:42] <jordan> kyo, you have to install it
[07:42] <calamari> jordan: download sources, ./configure --help   (choose what you want), ./configure (with those options), make, make install
[07:42] <kyo> !amarok
[07:42] <ubotu> well, amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[07:42] <_jason> oonoon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MATLAB
[07:43] <oonoon> soundray, no graphical
[07:43] <oonoon> _jason, nice
[07:43] <jordan> calamari, I've never had good luck installing from tarballs
[07:43] <eliyahu> help! my totem movie player is only showing a blue screen
[07:43] <mark__> what's the sudo apt-get command for building essential things to ubuntu
[07:43] <_jason> eliyahu: eek, have you rebooted?
[07:43] <_jason> or restarted X at least
[07:43] <petef> try removing it and re-installing
[07:43] <_jason> mark__: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:44] <eliyahu> thats so 'windows' but i'll try
[07:44] <_jason> eliyahu: hehe yeah, but that happneed to me once and it went away on reboot
[07:44] <kyo> !amarok
[07:44] <ubotu> I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[07:44] <jordan> anyone a fan of xfce?
[07:44] <soundray> oonoon, see if the wiki instructions work.
[07:44] <kyo> is amarok compact like winamp?
[07:44] <jordan> kyo, no its kinda like iTunes
[07:44] <_jason> kyo: no, but it is nice.  install it and try it
[07:45] <jordan> kyo, xmms is exactly like winamp
[07:45] <_jason> kyo: try beep-media-player, which is basically a better xmms :)
[07:45] <kyo> yeah I would want something like xmms then
[07:45] <Protocol1> !jdoom
[07:45] <kyo> !xmms
[07:45] <ubotu> I guess jdoom is a port of ID's Doom to Linux. The jDoom engine supports Doom, Doom II, Hexen and Heretic. Instructions for installation on Breezy can be found at http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi/community-projects/yagisan-s-doomsday-for-debian-ubuntu
[07:45] <ubotu> xmms is, like, totally, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:46] <petef> apt-get install xmms :)
[07:46] <L33TrDaNu> howdy, all the default fonts in ubuntu blow. Anyone know any good font packages/
[07:46] <anap> hi
[07:46] <L33TrDaNu> I would like fonts like Arial, Times New Romans, and the like
[07:46] <calamari> beep-media-player is better than xmms these days...
[07:46] <_jason> L33TrDaNu: msttcorefonts
[07:46] <anap> i have a problem that might be an openoffice only problem but i'll tell you anyway...
[07:46] <petef> never tried beep whats the advantages ?
[07:46] <calamari> whenever I insert a blank cd or dvd, a window pops up asking what I want to do.. can I disable this from coming up?
[07:46] <jordan> calamari, is it? last time Itried it wasnt that great
[07:46] <anap> the key that usually does the same as a right click,
[07:47] <L33TrDaNu> _jason, thank you so much!
[07:47] <anap> only offers me the same function as the alt key,
[07:47] <calamari> petef: more modern gtk
[07:47] <anap> not right click
[07:47] <kyo> calamari, , does bee media player take up much resource?
[07:47] <_jason> anap: please don't use the enter key as punctuation, it makes it hard to follow your question
[07:47] <calamari> kyo: nah
[07:47] <kyo> I'm justl ooking for a program to play music in the backgroun
[07:47] <kyo> nothing fanacy
[07:47] <anap> ok sorry
[07:48] <Creeture> kyo: mpg123 or mpg321 both fit that description. That's nothing fancy.
[07:48] <jordan> anyone an xfce fan?
[07:49] <petef> Id still go xmms
[07:49] <kyo> !xmms
[07:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:49] <petef> does just what you asked
[07:49] <anap> the key that usually does the same as a right click, only offers me the same function as the alt key,not right click; is there a "natural shortcut" for the same function as a right click in ubuntu?
[07:49] <kyo> Is xmms for x-windows or gnome?
[07:49] <L33TrDaNu> xmms blowz, go download amarok and use it with kde =)
[07:49] <kyo> haha
[07:49] <kyo> I'm running gnome right now ...
[07:49] <L33TrDaNu> xmms2 would be sweet if it'd hurry up and get developed
[07:49] <_jason> kyo: just try beep and xmms and mpg* and choose the one you like
[07:49] <jordan> kyo, if your worried about resources gnome usually takes a little less
[07:50] <anap> (not sure if that was any clearer though:) I am just after a way of getting the dialog that i get with a right click, but using the keyboard
[07:50] <petef> laters guys
[07:50] <kyo> aye
[07:50] <rindolf> Hi all!
[07:50] <affettuoso> brb gonna try this out
[07:50] <ownerx> anyone else experience .XAuthority corruption when running kde apps in gnome
[07:50] <kyo> !xmms
[07:50] <ubotu> xmms is, like, totally, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:50] <kyo> Hmm what is the xmms window? -_-'
[07:50] <L33TrDaNu> leonel: you're scaring people by doing that
[07:51] <_jason> ownerx: do you run them with sudo privileges?
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> kyo: it is black by default. Looks sort of like winamp classsic
[07:51] <jordan> kyo, its just like winamp for windows
[07:51] <leonel> jeje just a joke on  #gluch
[07:51] <mazatl> on gnome, what can I use to burn an .iso?
[07:51] <eliyahu> petef the uninstall / reinstall worked. thanks man
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> kyo, it doesn't have a media library though
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> kyo that is why it bothers me
[07:51] <rindolf> I upgraded kubuntu to 5.10. Now I can't use Ctrl+Alt+F1/F2/F3 to go to the virtual consoles from within X. How can I enable it?
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> mazatl: Gnomebaker
[07:51] <ownerx> jason, it doesnt happen in kde
[07:51] <ownerx> only kde apps run in gnome
[07:51] <jordan> mazatl, you can do it by right clicking the iso
[07:51] <_jason> anap: my laptop keyboard has a key that does that.  I don't know exactly what it gets mapped to.  But you could use xbindkeys to do what you want
[07:52] <_jason> ownerx: do you run them with root?  and do you know how to fix it?
[07:52] <ownerx> probably have run some as root
[07:52] <ownerx> yes i know how to fix
[07:52] <_jason> ownerx: that's why
[07:52] <ownerx> delete .xauthority
[07:53] <calamari> whenever I insert a blank cd or dvd, a window pops up asking what I want to do.. can I disable this from coming up?
[07:53] <jordan> what are some of your favorite apps?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> calamari,  yes. :P
[07:53] <soundray> jordan, tetex
[07:53] <calamari> Dr_Willis: yay
[07:53] <anap> _jason, my keyboard does hava a key like that, it does that with other programs, like xChat, gedit or firebird, but with openoffice, i press it and it only offers me to go to File, in menu
[07:53] <jordan> soundray, whats tetex?
[07:53] <calamari> Dr_Willis: how do I do it? :)
[07:53] <soundray> jordan, a TeX/LaTeX distribution
[07:54] <soundray> !info tetex-bin
[07:54] <ubotu> tetex-bin: (The teTeX binary files), section tex, is optional. Version: 2.0.2-30ubuntu3.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 3792 kB, Installed size: 8724 kB
[07:54] <jordan> soundray, huh, I'll check it out
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> calamari,  you dident ask that. :P  - its in the perferances/control panel somewhere - i forget..  media, or external media, or somthing like that.
[07:54] <_jason> anap: oh I see, let me try to make sure it is the same here.  Using xbindkeys you could set one up though
[07:54] <jordan> any good games you guys know that I dont?
[07:54] <anap> what is xbindkey? looking in the programs list and i can't find it...
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> calamari,  theres entries for what programs ya want to run for such tasks. or just uncheck them to make it do nothing
[07:54] <soundray> jordan, I'm planning to give an IRC tutorial on basic LaTeX use soon.
[07:55] <kyo> Ok, I'm a noob here ... how do I access xmms?
[07:55] <calamari> jordan: I like KStars.. fun planetarium program
[07:55] <_jason> anap: you have to install it
[07:55] <ownerx> calamari yes nice app
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> kyo,  run xmms from the shell - is one way. if its installed
[07:55] <jordan> calamari, yeah, its pretty good, it came with suse when I used that for a month
[07:55] <anap> _jason: ah. with apt get?
[07:55] <_jason> anap: yeah
[07:55] <anap> need to be root?
[07:55] <_jason> anap: then you might need xmacro as well
[07:55] <jordan> soundray, when?
[07:55] <soundray> jordan, if you're interested in LaTeX pm me your email address and I'll tell you when the tutorial is on.
[07:55] <kyo> Dr_Willis, doesn't look like it ... i typed it in and its not installed
[07:56] <_jason> anap: to install, you need to use sudo
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> kyo,  then install it. :P
[07:56] <jordan> soundray, how do I pm?
[07:56] <_jason> gnomefreak: ? what did i do
[07:56] <soundray>  /msg soundray email@address
[07:56] <anap> ok... will try to start installing in next online session, i have to go now. thank you so much, _jason
[07:57] <_jason> anap: you will probably need to do some reading to figure it out
[07:57] <gnomefreak> someone was trying to pm me on that name
[07:57] <anap> thanks _jason
[07:57] <soundray> jordan, you have to be registered for pm, though.
[07:57] <anap> bye now!
[07:57] <kyo> Dr_Willis, sure thing boss!
[07:57] <kyo> !xmms
[07:57] <ubotu> from memory, xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:57] <jordan> soundray, how do I register, heh
[07:57] <kyo> !amorak
[07:57] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kyo
[07:57] <ownerx> ive noticed the kde 3.51 in ubuntu works so much faster than the old ubuntu kde
[07:58] <kyo> !amarok
[07:58] <ubotu> [amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[07:58] <kyo> amarok is for KDE -- can I still use it in gnome?
[07:58] <soundray> jordan, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[07:58] <calamari> kyo: yeah
[07:58] <gnomefreak> kyo: yes
[07:59] <jordan> soundray, kay, will do that now
[08:00] <jordan> has anyone ever used xfce?
[08:00] <mazatl> yes why
[08:01] <jordan> have you ever got xfmedia to work?
[08:01] <mazatl> never used it
[08:01] <jordan> oh, ok
[08:04] <mark__> how do I access the fglrx-control panel
[08:04] <mark__> what is the command to use in shell
[08:04] <jordan> how do I change my nick name on this?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> jordan: /nick newname
[08:04] <jordan> gnomefreak, thanks
[08:04] <kane__> how do I change MAC adress???
[08:04] <gnomefreak> jordo23: yw
[08:05] <mark__> hey? :\
[08:05] <mark__> what is the command to use in shell?
[08:05] <mark__> fglrx-control panel
[08:05] <kane__> how do I change MAC adress??? anybody can help???
[08:06] <soundray> mark__, fireglcontrol. And, remember, nobody *owes* you support.
[08:06] <damnhil> What's the best web camera to buy for v4l?
[08:06] <ownerx> /usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel
[08:06] <mark__> lol, thanks soundray
[08:06] <GiGaHuRtZ> Hello, anyone tried Xgl yet with Dapper?  I'm having some trouble...
[08:06] <JloR> Anyone in here have experience with Matrox video cards on ubuntu linux? Is it easy to setup and use?
[08:07] <soundray> damnhil, a TV card and an analog camera :)
[08:07] <sid> Hello
[08:07] <sid> Can someone help me out, for some reason I have no sound
[08:07] <damnhil> soundray: what's analog camera?
[08:07] <damnhil> sid: alsaconfig
[08:07] <calamari> jordan: perhaps try #xfce
[08:07] <sid> Command not found
[08:07] <soundray> damnhil, one that has analog output, I mean. RGB or S-Video.
[08:07] <jodanlime> calamari, thanks, I will
[08:08] <damnhil> sid: what's your lspci output for sound?
[08:08] <soundray> damnhil, any old Sony Handycam or similar will do. Much better image quality than current cheap USB cams.
[08:08] <sid> Sorry, im a newb, whats lspci?
[08:08] <barleyman> Hi tried to google this but no luck....   I am running Breezy on a brand new Dell P4 with 1gig of memory.  I do not use evolution at all (Tbird) but I still see evolution-alarm-notify, evolution-data-server-1.4 and ...-exchange-storage using 55.8, 48.0, and 25.2 MiB of memory respectively.  Is this normal?
[08:08] <damnhil> soundray: are you saying usb cam or digital cam?
[08:08] <damnhil> sid: in the command line, type lspci and enter
[08:08] !lilo:*! PDPC research assistance requested: is there an online database of for-profit and not-for-profit entities in India? *Not* a domain registration index.  Please message me if you can help. Thanks!
[08:09] <sid> Done
[08:09] <soundray> sid, best way to find out more about a command is using man: man lspci
[08:09] <caro> hi
[08:09] <damnhil> sid: what's the output?
[08:09] <sid> It doesnt say anything about sound
[08:09] <caro> my imac is extremely slow on breezy, how to solve this problem ?
[08:10] <blekos> any idea if there is a beta version of dapper drake?
[08:10] <sid> Want me to post what it said? All the lines?
[08:10] !lilo:*! (for the freenode group registration project)
[08:10] <KoruptidPryde> I'm looking at buing a new minipci wifi card for my laptop to replace my broadcom.... any suggestions?  I'd like to be fully linux compatible
[08:10] <soundray> damnhil, I'm saying a video camera with analog PAL or NTSC connectors will give you better quality than the current breed of USB webcams.
[08:10] <damnhil> sid: you should have something like "00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)"
[08:10] <nny> heres a good one, where does ubuntu keep kernel sources (if any)
[08:11] <sid> Nope
[08:11] <gnomefreak> blekos: beta for dapper will me next month its still in alpha form
[08:11] <damnhil> soundray: I have a Kodak digicam which supports NTSC but I don't know how to use it
[08:11] <soundray> blekos, I don't think there will be an official beta. There are so-called Flight CD's for testing.
[08:11] <nny> i am trying to compile a package.. i think it wants the header files
[08:11] <damnhil> sid : that means there is no sound card on your PCI
[08:11] <sid> Its integrated intel sound, but I dont seem to see it. My SB Audigy card wouldn't come up either
[08:11] <kyo> which uses less resource? KDE or Gnome?
[08:11] <blekos> i know but it is advisable not to install f3 :(
[08:11] <barleyman> bump
[08:11] <blekos> but I cant wait...
[08:11] <_jason> kyo: gnome probably
[08:11] <soundray> damnhil, to connect NTSC output to your PC, you'd have to have a TV card, e.g. one with a Brooktree chipset
[08:11] <jodanlime> kyo, gnome by just a little bit
[08:11] <blekos> there a lot of new inovations in the new edition
[08:12] <blekos> :)
[08:12] <jodanlime> anyone know if I can boot a computer from a server?
[08:12] <damnhil> soundray: Can I use a real TV to test it? What would I see?
[08:12] <nny> ... mayeb since ubuntu uses packages for kernel, the source is not in my filesystem
[08:12] <soundray> damnhil, a) yes. b) depends on the camera
[08:12] <blekos> if the computer is connected  2 the server and hava a remote access yes
[08:13] <sid> It should show my integrated card, windows saw it, the live cd saw it, I dont see why its not there now.
[08:13] <jodanlime> blekos, is that hard to do?
[08:13] <nny> i think i answered my own question, anyone wanna confirm it?
[08:13] <damnhil> sid got no sound cardt
[08:13] <soundray> jodanlime, do you mean boot from switched-off state?
[08:13] <blekos> not really, i only have done it through win server
[08:13] <jodanlime> soundray, no, I want to make a completely silent pc, and boot it from ethernet
[08:13] <soundray> nny, kernel source is in separate packages.
[08:14] <blekos> i think it is somewhere in the administrative tools
[08:14] <sid> Its integrated, I know its there. I tried my SB card too and ti doesnt come up
[08:14] <sid> I know its there
[08:14] <soundray> jodanlime, the keyword is wake on lan
[08:14] <twb> Debian asks for a domain name (which defaults to .lan), but Ubuntu doesn't.  Where do I set that by hand?
[08:14] <damnhil> sid: what's the model of your sound card? USB?
[08:14] <nny> soundray, hrmm.. thought so.. heh silly me.. ok wait till ihave ethernet connection (working on broadcom stuff)
[08:14] <soundray> !info wakeonlan
[08:14] <sid> No PCI
[08:14] <ubotu> wakeonlan: (Sends 'magic packets' to wake-on-LAN enabled ethernet adapters), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.41-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[08:14] <janno> !rpm
[08:14] <ubotu> rpm is, like, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[08:14] <damnhil> sid: what's the model name
[08:14] <jodanlime> soundray, could I just turn on the pc, and have the os on a hard drive in the server in my downstairs/closet etc?
[08:14] <sid> I had a PCI SB card, its not plugged in right now because it wouldnt work
[08:14] <sid> SB Audigy 2
[08:15] <nny> !ndiswrapper
[08:15] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:15] <nny> hrmm
[08:15] <nny> wonder what ubotu means by buggy
[08:15] <nny> i have 2.6.15
[08:15] <nny> with modules
[08:15] <nny> anyone know of a better way?
[08:15] <nny> !broadcom
[08:15] <ubotu> broadcom is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[08:15] <soundray> jodanlime, yes, that kind of config is called a thin-client/terminal server setup. Search the web for LTSP.
[08:16] <kane__> how do I change MAC adress??? anybody can help???
[08:16] <kyo> hmm weird. Permission is denied when I apt-get update
[08:16] <jodanlime> soundray, ok, but does it use the computers prossecing power or the servers?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> nny: buggy meaning you may find bugs with it
[08:16] <_jason> kyo: sudo apt-get update
[08:16] <twb> jodanlime: apt-cache search mac change
[08:16] <nny> gnomefreak, heeh.. yeah isn't there module (nondsiwrapper) support in ubuntu dapper 2.6.15(what i am using)
[08:17] <twb> jodanlime: apt-cache show macchanger
[08:17] <sid> In my device manager, it says "On Board Device", and when I go to advanced, it says its Crystal 4236B Audio
[08:17] <soundray> jodanlime, with LTSP, you're using the  local machine for graphics only. Everything else happens on the server.
[08:17] <sid> Status is enabled
[08:17] <sid> Type, is sound
[08:17] <soundray> jodanlime, if you want it differently, look into root on NFS or similar.
[08:17] <jodanlime> soundray, well, I was thinking like having my hard-drives in a seperate room for a silent pc
[08:17] <damnhil> sid: it should appear in your lspci command output
[08:17] <sid> I dont see why it doesnt though
[08:17] <damnhil> sid: are you using ALSA?
[08:17] <sid> I dont know
[08:17] <Takagami> How do I install a .deb from command line?
[08:17] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know if there's /any/ mysql 5.0.x packages for k/ubuntu?
[08:18] <nny> !dapper broadcom
[08:18] <ubotu> nny: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:18] <twb> Takagami: Ubuntu is not Debian.
[08:18] <Psi-Jack> Takagami: dpkg --help
[08:18] <gnomefreak> sid: did you diable onboard sound card?
[08:18] <sid> No
[08:18] <Takagami> dpkg
[08:18] <Takagami> yea
[08:18] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell Takagami about deb
[08:18] <janno> !deb
[08:18] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:18] <sid> In the device manager, it says its there
[08:18] <sid> lspci says otherwise
[08:18] <Psi-Jack> twb: Correct, it's not, but Ubuntu uses Debian's package management, hence, .deb
[08:18] <gnomefreak> sid: you might want to do that in bios if you have another sound card you are trying to get to work
[08:18] <Takagami> yeah I was trying deb instead of dpkg
[08:18] <nny> ubotu, tell nny how to make a perpetual motion device
[08:18] <jodanlime> isnt ubuntu built on debian?
[08:18] <soundray> jodanlime, both thin-client and root-on-nfs setups can be silent. Another keyword to search for is diskless.
[08:19] <nny> hehe don't abuse the bot :)
[08:19] <sid> My bios says its there, my device manager says its there
[08:19] <gnomefreak> jodanlime: yes but it is not debian
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> jodanlime: Built using Debian's tools.
[08:19] <thegladiator> ubotu deb are  not exactly compatible with debian deb , or so I read somewhere
[08:19] <ubotu> ...but deb is already something else...
[08:19] <Takagami> I meant the .deb package system... not debian really
[08:19] <twb> jodanlime: "built on" is perhaps stretching the definition.
[08:19] <sid> its enabled in my bios and in the device manager
[08:19] <jodanlime> gnomefreak, yeah, but its alot like it
[08:19] <damnhil> sid: can you run the alsa auto detection program?
[08:19] <bigmoe> anyone know how to make anonymous proxy
[08:19] <nny> if anyone knows of a ubuntu forum related specifically to broadcom adapters with the latest kernel, hook a brother up
[08:19] <sid> Which is
[08:19] <gnomefreak> jordo23: not really
[08:19] <thegladiator> Takagami, got the tell from ubotu ?
[08:19] <sid> alsaconfig?
[08:19] <gnomefreak> same package manager same installer
[08:19] <Takagami> thegladiator: Yeah... thanks
[08:20] <jodanlime> soundray, thanks alot, youve helped alot
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[08:20] <twb> Where is the domain name configured in Ubuntu?
[08:20] <jodanlime> see you guys later
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> Is there any mysql5 packages for Ubuntu anywhere?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> twb: under networking
[08:20] <damnhil> sid: I forgot the command. can you find it>?
[08:20] <twb> gnomefreak: Uh, could you be more specific?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> twb: system>admin>network
[08:20] <twb> gnomefreak: is this some GUI thing?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> gui thing yes its on gnomedesktop
[08:21] <sid> I cant find it, one second
[08:21] <soundray> Psi-Jack, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/ (for dapper, I think)
[08:21] <twb> gnomefreak: do you know where it is in /etc?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> twb: not off hand
[08:21] <Psi-Jack> soundray: Hmm, I need it for breezy.
[08:21] <sid> I cant find it
[08:22] <i3dmaster> my ethernet card was named eth0 but now it is changed to eth0_clashed. Anyone has this issue before?
[08:22] <_jason> i3dmaster: you are using dapper?
[08:22] <twb> My actual problem is that the Debian NFS server won't allow me to mount exported directories.
[08:22] <twb> And I suspect it's because my domain name isn't foo.lan
[08:22] <i3dmaster> _jason, yes
[08:23] <soundray> Psi-Jack, breezy is stable, mysql5 can't be considered that, so the two don't go together.
[08:23] <_jason> i3dmaster: then yes, I have seen a few people have that issue here
[08:23] <Psi-Jack> soundray: MySQL 5.0 is quite stable, actually.
[08:23] <soundray> Psi-Jack, you can try to backport, but I would install dapper if I needed mysql5.
[08:23] <i3dmaster> _jason, oh ok.. hmm.. what's up with that? don't see any benefits to rename the interface
[08:23] <damnhil> sid: come on
[08:23] <sid> I couldnt find it
[08:23] <_jason> i3dmaster: no idea
[08:24] <Psi-Jack> soundray: I'll go with the whole backporting idea, using the deb-src and just adjusting.
[08:24] <KoruptidPryde> does orinoco make a mini-pci card?
[08:24] <twb> The /etc/exports file reads "/alt    *.lan(rw,sync,root_squash)"
[08:24] <i3dmaster> _jason, ya the interface is still working but you know, its a ugly change
[08:24] <damnhil> sid: do you have ALSA?
[08:24] <bigmoe> what is the package name for mysql in ubuntu
[08:24] <sid> yes
[08:24] <i3dmaster> anyway, thanks
[08:24] <_jason> i3dmaster: check malone on the possibility of it being a bug
[08:24] <soundray> Psi-Jack, okay, good luck :)
[08:25] <i3dmaster> _jason, ya I am going to do that and see if anyone filed a bug for that
[08:25] <ubuntu> uiu
[08:25] <soundray> KoruptidPryde, afaik, orinoco never made anything. It's just a brand name.
[08:25] <LadyNikon> ok..
[08:25] <rod> hi
[08:25] <rod> me again :)
[08:25] <rod> How to format a big disc as vfat?
[08:25] <LadyNikon> how do i install a package that isnt in the apt-get tree?
[08:25] <soundray> rod, how big?
[08:25] <Ng> soundray: correct, made by lucent/avaya or whatever they are called this week ;)
[08:25] <_jason> LadyNikon: what package?
[08:26] <rod> 200gig soundray
[08:26] <damnhil> sid : go to the doc page of ALSA
[08:26] <LadyNikon> its a vpn client
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> Holy cow.
[08:26] <KoruptidPryde> soundray, well... in general I'm trying to find an orinoco chipset minipci to replace my crappy broadcom on my compaq laptop
[08:26] <LadyNikon> ubotu: LadyNikon !install
[08:26] <ubotu> LadyNikon: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:26] <_jason> LadyNikon: you've checked universe/multiverse I assume?
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> There's Unofficial MySQL 5.0 stuff for Hoary, just not Breezy. LOL
[08:26] <LadyNikon> _jason: yep
[08:27] <damnhil> sid : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml do # lspci -v | grep -i audio
[08:27] <_jason> LadyNikon: then I would do this 1) check wiki/forums for what others have done 2) look for an ubuntu deb 3) compile from source
[08:27] <damnhil> sid: here : # alsaconf
[08:27] <rod> soundray: can you help me to make a vfat partition?
[08:27] <sid> Command "alsaconf" not found
[08:27] <soundray> rod, mkdosfs
[08:28] <rod> soundray: thnx
[08:28] <soundray> rod, read the manpage and decide accordingly.
[08:28] <sid> I just put in "grep -i audio" and its hanging there
[08:28] <soundray> rod, have you considered this well? vfat is a pain.
[08:29] <twb> gnomefreak: ok, i managed to login to gnome and find the networking control panel, but putting "lan" in the "domain name" text field and hitting OK has no effect.  When I reopen that dialog the field is blank again.
[08:29] <m_tadeu> what are the recomended webcams for ubuntu?
[08:29] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!
[08:30] <eyedol59> can anybody help me with grub?
[08:30] <soundray> !anyone
[08:30] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:30] <twb> Hear hear.
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: As said already, one that is supported by Linux directly is suggested. Namely webcams that use the OV511 chip.
[08:30] <sid> damnhil im going to plug my SB back in, and run some tests, ill be back
[08:30] <soundray> m_tadeu, had this discussion earlier... In my opinion, webcams aren't worth the bother. Use an old video cam with analog out and connect it to a TV card.
[08:31] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: nice :) thanx
[08:31] <gnomefreak> twb: im not sure i leave mine blank since i dont need one
[08:31] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Pay attention next time. It'll save you the trouble of repeat questions.
[08:31] <twb> Grr.
[08:31] <m_tadeu> soundray: mmm...aren't those quite more expensive?
[08:31] <twb> I do not like changing things on the server simply because the clients are being uppity.
[08:32] <rod> soundray: i know vfat is a pain... ext2 is the other option but im planning to use this extensively and installing a ext2 driver on every machine isnt handy
[08:32] <soundray> m_tadeu, not if you pick up a used one.
[08:32] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: i don't think i ever asked this
[08:32] <Bergcube> ubotu~  I have had a little experience with that.  When asking a very detailed and specific question I've been ignored more than 50% of the times.  Beginning with something like "I have a problem with FOO" has shown actually to work better.  Strange as it might seem to a strictly logical entity like yourself.....
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: You did. Yesterday.
[08:33] <soundray> rod, so this is for exchanging data on a portable disk?
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> I explicitely remember you. ;)
[08:33] <LadyNikon> forums.ubuntu.com?
[08:33] <LadyNikon> is that it?
[08:33] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: i'll pay more attention next time ;)
[08:33] <_jason> LadyNikon: ubuntuforums.org
[08:33] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: thnx again
[08:33] <rod> soundray: yes, its a usb disc
[08:33] <twb> Argh!  Stupid bloody NFS!
[08:33] <twb> mount: RPC: program not registered
[08:34] <twb> I have this bloody problem every time I configure a host.
[08:34] <Richard> how can i see computers in a lan corporate?
[08:35] <twb> Richard: define "lan corporate".
[08:35] <Richard> it's a intranet.. excuse my bad english
[08:35] <twb> Richard: ah.  "corporate lan".  The adjective precedes the noun.
[08:36] <sid> Ok, damnhil
[08:36] <sid> 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[08:36] <soundray> rod, for Windows clients as well?
[08:36] <twb> Richard: is this a predominantly Windows network?
[08:36] <sid> So far no sound though
[08:36] <Richard> yes twb
[08:36] <XX> ion:.
[08:37] <twb> Richard: you need an SMB client.  Look for documentation for samba.
[08:37] <twb> There are also some nice front-end GUIs, but I forget the names.
[08:37] <twb> lias is one.
[08:37] <twb> *lisa
[08:37] <sid> Did damnhil leave?
[08:38] <rod> soundray: its supposed to contain some movies and music ... Im going to add and copy over some while im at some friends ... they all use windows
[08:38] <sid> Hey gnomefreak, can you help me out
[08:39] <Richard> twb: is it a program? have i to installed it?
[08:39] <eyedol59> can anybody help me with grub?
[08:39] <twb> Richard: yes.
[08:39] <soundray> rod, I think you can just use the defaults for FAT32 then, ie. 'sudo mkdosfs -F32 /dev/sd??'
[08:39] <twb> eyedol59: not until you are more specific.
[08:40] <rod> soundray: im getting old. I completely forgot about cfdisk
[08:40] <akambi> Hello every body!!
[08:40] <rod> soundray: cfdisk should do it
[08:40] <eyedol59> twb:I have a sata drive that ubuntu sees as sda
[08:40] <soundray> rod, no.
[08:40] <twb> rod: aren't we all supposed to use parted now?
[08:40] <akambi> I need some help upgrading my firefox with Ubuntu
[08:40] <eyedol59> twb:in sda0 i have Winxp
[08:40] <_jason> akambi: what versions
[08:40] <InnerF|RE> anyone familiar with spca5xx?
[08:40] <soundray> rod, you can create a partition with cfdisk, but not a vfat filesystem.
[08:40] <raul> hola
[08:40] <kyo> akambi, me! I just update it yesterday =)
[08:41] <eyedol59> twb:and in other partition i have the ubuntu os
[08:41] <anthraxnet> hola
[08:41] <twb> anthraxnet: sudo aptitude upgrade firefox
[08:41] <linkd> sda0? o0
[08:41] <akambi> to 1.05
[08:41] <anthraxnet> twb is that for me?
[08:41] <twb> anthraxnet: no, sorry.
[08:41] <eyedol59> twb:i have resintall grub with the command $ /bin/grub-install /dev/sda
[08:41] <_jason> akambi: 1.07 is in there repositories
[08:41] <kyo> akambi, just follow this instructions, its very clear
[08:41] <soundray> InnerF|RE, heard of it, used it, had problems.
[08:41] <kyo> !ff.15
[08:41] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kyo
[08:41] <twb> lazy tab completion and busy channels don't mix.
[08:41] <sid> gnomefreak are you there?
[08:41] <kyo> !ff1.5
[08:41] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:41] <eyedol59> twb:are you following me so far?
[08:41] <Richard> twb: how can i use it? I see under synaptic and it say that it is installed
[08:41] <soundray> InnerF|RE, the version in kernel 2.6.15 is better.
[08:41] <anthraxnet> twb i think nice i joint a channel and get informations without asking :-)
[08:42] <twb> eyedol59: I think so.
[08:42] <akambi> Scuz I ve mistaken I want to Upgrade to 1.5.1
[08:42] <akambi> the last version
[08:42] <kwiat> hey there, i need help with installing flash plugin for firefox (or any other browser). im on breezy 64 bit. macromedia installer says he doesnt support 64 bit yet and manually installing the 32 bit flash plugin fails. what could i do?
[08:42] <twb> Richard: Alt+F2, then type the program name.
[08:42] <_jason> akambi: and now you have 1.07?
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> Say, is there a GUI frontend to cron?
[08:42] <InnerF|RE> i have to change my kernel?
[08:42] <akambi> yes jason
[08:42] <twb> kwiat: you need to run 32bit firefox in a chroot jail.
[08:42] <kyo> crap, is this normal? I have a termina, xchat and firefox open. firefox doesn't response so I have to force quit it
[08:43] <twb> tonyyarusso: yes, crontab -e
[08:43] <_jason> akambi: ok, then see the link kyo told ubotu to say above
[08:43] <kyo> I seem to be lagging a bit ...
[08:43] <Richard> twb: is it under console?
[08:43] <akambi> kwiat use eay ubuntu
[08:43] <eyedol59> the problem is that know the grub works ok, but i can not run windows
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> twb: Sweet.
[08:43] <twb> Richard: what program?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> kyo: my firefox is great :)
[08:43] <kwiat> twb what does chroot jail mean?
[08:43] <twb> kwiat: it is something technical.
[08:43] <kwiat> akambi wat is eay ubuntu?
[08:43] <kyo> Hmm
[08:43] <thechemist> c
[08:43] <kyo> maybe its the theme or something
[08:43] <kwiat> twb thanks
[08:43] <twb> kwiat: google knows.
[08:43] <kwiat> twb which means...?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> kyo: what if you run firefox as a different user?
[08:44] <soundray> eyedol59, you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add a menu option to boot Windows.
[08:44] <kwiat> twb thanks anyway
[08:44] <eyedol59> and when i use the tool DISKS from the UBUNTU it says that /dev/sda1 has no format, when is supposed to say that is an ntfs partition
[08:44] <akambi> easyUbuntu, is a lil stuff which add repositories to synaptics.
[08:44] <akambi> In those repos U ll find the Flash plugin
[08:44] <twb> kwiat: basically it means that you run bits of 32bit OSness within your 64bit OS.
[08:44] <bur[n] er> kyo: or mv .mozilla .mozilla-maybebroken
[08:44] <Richard> samba client, twb
[08:44] <twb> kwiat: it is a PITA.
[08:44] <twb> Richard: which samba client?
[08:44] <njs12345> kwiat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot_jail
[08:44] <soundray> eyedol59, don't worry about that for now, do the menu.lst thing.
[08:45] <twb> eyedol59: I second soundray's suggestion.
[08:45] <Richard> the program that you told me before, twb
[08:45] <kwiat> njs12345 thanks a lot
[08:45] <twb> Richard: you mean lisa?
[08:45] <eyedol59> the things that i have already that...
[08:46] <rod> soundray: thanks, the command worked! :D
[08:46] <rod> soundray: see you around :)
[08:46] <njs12345> you're welcome
[08:46] <eyedol59> and when grub tries to load the XP in that partition the only thing that is put in the screen is the word GRUB
[08:46] <Richard> no smb, to conet me a other computers in intranet
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know if there's plans to make the Keyboard Shortcuts GUI allow custom shortcuts in the future?
[08:46] <twb> eyedol59: I don't know enough about how grub talks to windows.
[08:47] <twb> I haven't use windows for many years.
[08:47] <eyedol59> :)
[08:47] <twb> If it's anything like Lilo, you have probably hosed ntldr and need to do nasty things windows-side to get a new one.
[08:47] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I don't think so, but I learned about an interesting program earlier: xbindkeys
[08:47] <mordof> blackbox is definately a really basic window management thing
[08:48] <twb> mordof: rubbish.
[08:48] <eyedol59> but do you know where the grub-install command installs grub? MBR? or the hd first primary partition?
[08:48] <AndyR> tonyyarusso, it is in the repositories i think
[08:48] <twb> mordof: aewm is a basic wm.
[08:48] <mordof> lol, i cant see your name!
[08:48] <twb> eyedol59: wherever you tell it to.
[08:48] <soundray> twb, eyedol59, normally grub chainloads the Windows bootloader, which is in the Windows partition.
[08:48] <twb> eyedol59: grub-install /dev/sda will use MBR.
[08:48] <twb> eyedol59: grub install /dev/sda1 will use the start of the first partition.
[08:48] <soundray> twb, he has grub installed, though!
[08:48] <twb> soundray: using ntldr?
[08:49] <twb> soundray: or does it bypass that altogether?
[08:49] <soundray> twb, if that's what the part is called...
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> soundray, AndyR: Thanks.
[08:49] <mordof>  twb, yeah well... i dont like basic stuff, im used to gui everything. though i will keep this installed because it is rather interesting, and once i get better with stuff i may head back to this
[08:49] <twb> ntldr is the NT bootLoadeR
[08:49] <Fleischlego> Hi there.
[08:50] <mordof> twb: but for now! off i go to kde
[08:50] <AndyR> tonyyarusso, im using it here on my inspiron 9300
[08:50] <eyedol59> ok thank you :)
[08:50] <student> hey
[08:50] <soundray> twb, the way I understand it, the "regular" master boot record boots whatever bootloader resides in the first primary partition that is marked as bootable.
[08:50] <twb> graphical terminals are the devil's toys!
[08:50] <mordof> twb: lmao
[08:50] <mordof> twb: how do i logout with blackbox?
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> AndyR: The thing I would actually want to run is the -config one though right?
[08:50] <twb> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[08:50] <mordof> twb: i thought that got rid of X?
[08:50] <twb> Right.
[08:51] <mordof> twb: i wanna stay in X, just logout
[08:51] <soundray> twb, grub does the same if you give it the chainloader command.
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> AndyR: Whoa, cool.
[08:51] <twb> mordof: if you're running a DM, it will probably restart X.
[08:51] <mordof> twb: whats a dm?
[08:51] <janno> !bin
[08:51] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, janno
[08:51] <twb> display manager.
[08:51] <mordof> lol, im still kinda new to linux
[08:51] <twb> mordof: e.g. gdm, kdm, xdm
[08:51] <mordof> oh ok
[08:52] <mordof> thx
[08:52] <twb> entrance.
[08:52] <soundray> tonyyarusso, what's cool?
[08:52] <Subliminal> lshw labels my network card as disabled, how can i enable it?
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> soundray: The program.  Looks good, will have to play around with it later.
[08:53] <soundray> tonyyarusso, ah, good.
[08:53] <Fleischlego> I got a quite strange problem. I blew up my system today. No kernel is booting, so I booted a live CD and did a chroot into my damaged system. The partition is mounted rw but I always get a 'permission denied' on /dev/null. id says I am full root. Anyone knows this problem? :)
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Anyway, off to class.
[08:54] <twb> Remind me, where do I tell the kernel the modules to load a boot?
[08:54] <twb>  /etc/modules?
[08:55] <soundray> twb, that's the one :)
[08:55] <soundray> Fleischlego, what did you do to blow it up?
[08:56] <mordof> twb, where would i go to find themes for kde?
[08:56] <twb> mordof: kde-look.org, IIRC.
[08:56] <twb> I've never used KDE.
[08:56] <kyo> Hmm how do I kill the firefox process. I force quit it
[08:56] <kyo> but when I try to open it I can't
[08:56] <kyo> so I guess I have to go to system process ... where is that?
[08:56] <twb> Real men use GNU Screen / Ratpoison and *like* it!
[08:56] <twb> kyo: killall firefox
[08:57] <twb> kyo: or maybe killall firefox-bin
[08:57] <klippo> Hi. i need help: http://pastebin.com/554750
[08:57] <Fleischlego> soundray: I installed a dapper kernel. :)
[08:57] <klippo> ive followed guide on ubuntuforums how to create .deb out of the ati installer
[08:57] <twb> kyo: please tell the firefox developers that reimplementing session management at the application level is stupid.
[08:57] <kyo> twb, still doesn't work -_-'
[08:57] <soundray> Fleischlego, oops! InnerF|RE, did you hear that?
[08:58] <twb> kyo: killall -9 firefox-bin?
[08:58] <soundray> Fleischlego, I suggest you come out of the chroot and run fsck on your root partition first.
[08:58] <twb> kyo: when it works, the next time you do the command it will say "nothing to kill"
[08:58] <InnerF|RE> hm
[08:58] <InnerF|RE> dapper kernel
[08:59] <soundray> Fleischlego, can you still boot to the grub menu?
[08:59] <Fleischlego> soundray: Yes.
[08:59] <junix-br> hello all
[08:59] <klippo> anyone
[09:00] <soundray> Fleischlego, and you didn't smell any burning cables? It's not so bad then :)
[09:00] <kyo> twb, yup it works. thanks
[09:00] <junix-br> my gnome-applet mixer now is hide... why?
[09:00] <twb> Is it the case that ubuntu doesn't add services to /etc/rc?.d like Debian does?
[09:00] <twb> Only e.g. bpalogin(1) needs to be enabled manually with e.g. rcconf, whereas IIRC it didn't under Debian.
[09:00] <Sky06> halo
[09:01] <klippo> I followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[09:01] <Sky06> help me to uninstal game in ubuntu 5.10
[09:01] <twb> Sky06: aptitude install packagename_
[09:01] <Sky06> help me to uninstal games in ubuntu 5.10
[09:01] <Sky06> ok
[09:02] <lakai> anyone using an ipod successfully on dapper?
[09:02] <lakai> by successful i mean automount :-/
[09:02] <kyo> I "apt-get install amarok amarok-engines" and it installs. now how do I access amarok?
[09:02] <soundray> Fleischlego, fsck making sense?
[09:03] <kyo> hmm makes sense
[09:03] <Fleischlego> soundray: I'm kinda hugging with /dev and /proc right now. :)
[09:04] <kane__> I'm leaving... (not that anyone cares...)
[09:04] <soundray> Fleischlego, still in chroot?
[09:04] <twb> Fleischlego: /proc won't be mounted by default within the chroot.
[09:04] <Mordof> yeah... i like gnome better
[09:04] <twb> Fleischlego: mount -t proc none /proc
[09:04] <lakai> whats on with automount ? :-/
[09:04] <Fleischlego> twb: I did.
[09:04] <GTX-> lo guys, how can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:04] <Fleischlego> twb: on a 2.6 kernel I do mount -t proc proc /proc I thought? :)
[09:04] <gouchi> Hi
[09:04] <bllx> lo all
[09:04] <bllx> can anyone guess how come after I did fdisk -i on a drive (firewire), a 1MB bootstrap partition that I made on it for an ubuntulinux installation appears to be still there?
[09:04] <twb> Fleischlego: I don't think the device matters.
[09:05] <GTX-> trappist, there?
[09:05] <twb> bllx: in which OS did you run fdisk?
[09:05] <bllx> in ubuntu
[09:05] <gouchi> Dapper will have graphic grub ?
[09:05] <junco> what is the primary difference between ubuntu and debian?  software wise i mean mainly.. do they use different repositories? which would be more "up to date" ?
[09:05] <jatos> hi
[09:05] <bllx> or wait, maybe os x
[09:05] <GTX-> How can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, I've tried to find a reposity for this but cant find anything
[09:05] <twb> bllx: try parted.
[09:05] <bllx> does it matter?
[09:05] <bllx> no ubuntu
[09:06] <delaney> Is someone able to tell me the default install location for gtk engines
[09:06] <lakai> i think i just go on asking :-D
[09:06] <bllx> i tried deleting the bootstrap partition directly in parted first, didnt work
[09:06] <jatos> btw, I know my Ubuntu box got hacked earlier today, how do I go about finding who did and what they did in the meantime
[09:06] <lakai> anyone having automountig WORKING with dapper?
[09:06] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap
[09:06] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap
[09:06] <twb> dapper is a release name?
[09:06] <GTX-> Can someone help me on my question, pretty please :P
[09:06] <bllx> maybe it *has* been deleted, but ubuntu remembers it as being on that disk before so displays it in /media  -is that possible?
[09:07] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap in ubuntu 5.10
[09:07] <twb> bllx: /media depends on what was present when you installed the OS.
[09:07] <arrinmurr> jatos: how do you know it got hacked then?
[09:07] <lakai> Sky06: gparted
[09:07] <twb> bllx: unless you run an automounter like automount or autofs.
[09:07] <bllx> really?! well that might explain it then
[09:07] <rewt_> everytime i reboot my ubuntu, my sound doesnt work. I must run 'sudo modprobe snd_atiixp' then after that I must run 'esd &' can anyone tell me why?
[09:07] <kyo> GTX, just ask, don't ask to ask
[09:08] <twb> rewt_: add 'snd_atiixp' to /etc/modules as root.
[09:08] <bllx> twb, so its just like an invalid short-cut type thing
[09:08] <BootyBabe> hello, how much disk space needs ubuntu?
[09:08] <bllx> an old alias
[09:08] <twb> bllx: uh, kind of.
[09:08] <twb> bllx: check /etc/fstab for cruft, too.
[09:08] <bllx> should I /can I delete it?
[09:08] <rewt_> what about the & esd?
[09:08] <jatos> well the fact all my file seemed to have been access between 12:18-12:20, and a litte message when it shutdown saying "Your system will self-destruct in 5 seconds. Have a nice day"
[09:08] <twb> BootyBabe: about 2Gb for the desktop install.
[09:08] <GTX-> How can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, I've tried to find a reposity for this but cant find anything
[09:08] <twb> rewt_: GNOME should do that automagically, I believe.
[09:08] <Mordof> how hard is it to install a login manager?
[09:08] <bllx> so I can stop formatting that drive though, and assume the bbotstrap part was deleted
[09:09] <rewt_> I have to manually do it lately
[09:09] <twb> Mordof: aptitude install xdm
[09:09] <jatos> I had directly connected to the internet for the day when its normally on a network with a firewall that blocks all incoming connectionsd
[09:09] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap in ubuntu 5.10
[09:09] <bllx> twb
[09:09] <bllx> whats cruft?
[09:09] <twb> bllx: to examine the actual drive, run "parted print /dev/XXX"
[09:09] <soundray> Sky06, aren't you listening?
[09:09] <Sky06> root@mentariNet:~# man gparted
[09:09] <twb> bllx: where XXX is the device name.
[09:09] <Sky06> No manual entry for gparted
[09:09] <bllx> ok
[09:09] <BootyBabe> twb but i'm using 18GB and the installation says: not enough space
[09:09] <soundray> !info gparted
[09:09] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB
[09:10] <twb> Sky06: aptitude install gparted
[09:10] <Mordof> twb, i downloaded one... not sure if that changes anything
[09:10] <GTX-> twb, could you help me with my question please?
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: no.
[09:10] <GTX-> k
[09:10] <Angel_Dex> Hello all!
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: I can only answer questions that I can answer.
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: sorry.
[09:10] <GTX-> fair enough :p
[09:10] <GTX-> np
[09:10] <bllx> twb, so you think i can remove the /media/bootstrap ghost partition by messing with fstab ?
[09:10] <rewt_> like if i run 'sudo modprobe snd_atiixp' then i can start the esd &
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: if it makes you feel any better, no one can answer my question, either :-(
[09:10] <rewt_> if I try esd & before hand I get errors
[09:11] <Angel_Dex> How Do i set up wireless internet?
[09:11] <twb> bllx: yes, and by running "rmdir /media/bootstrap" as root.
[09:11] <bllx> excellent thanks
[09:11] <twb> rewt_: right, because until the modprobe, the system believes you have no sound cards.
[09:11] <soundray> Angel_Dex, still no luck? Shame...
[09:11] <twb> Angel_Dex: with great difficulty.
[09:11] <bllx> but just doing rmdir on it as root wont be enough probably, yeh?
[09:11] <rewt_> ok so how do I go about adding it to whatever to make it automatic/
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> soundray not for me for a friend who im trying to persude into ubuntu
[09:12] <twb> bllx: why not do both?
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> twb damn
[09:12] <bllx> ok
[09:12] <bllx> just gotta work out what cruft is
[09:12] <bllx> i thought it was a dog show
[09:12] <bllx> ;)
[09:12] <naetrick> Holy crap! It works! Thank _God_
[09:12] <soundray> Angel_Dex, don't persuade. Convince!
[09:12] <twb> http://google.com.au/search?q=site:catb.org jargon cruft
[09:12] <bllx> roger ;)
[09:12] <twb> http://google.com.au/search?q=site:catb.org+jargon+cruft
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> soundray if he cant get internet with his wireless lappy he wont be convinced at all
[09:13] <soundray> !info cruft
[09:13] <ubotu> cruft: (Find any cruft built up on your system), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.9.6-0.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 640 kB
[09:13] <rewt_> How do I do this 'add 'snd_atiixp' to /etc/modules as root.'
[09:13] <Mordof> twb, for Angel_Dex, what about KWifiManager?
[09:13] <delaney> I want to install   ** gtk-engines-2.7.3  **  would anyone know where that should be installed to? or is /opt fine?
[09:13] <twb> soundray: not cruft(1), crutft!
[09:13] <twb> MoeZzz: I've had no luck with it.
[09:13] <Angel_Dex> Mordof hes got a IBM lappy
[09:13] <twb> Er, s/MoeZzz/Mordof/
[09:14] <bllx> crutft ?
[09:14] <twb> Angel_Dex: basically it will be a PITA unless you are very lucky.
[09:14] <MoeZzz> i need help installing ubuntu ... can any one help me please ?
[09:14] <twb> bllx: typo.
[09:14] <twb> MoeZzz: never!
[09:14] <bllx> cruft
[09:14] <twb> MoeZzz: we are all windows users!
[09:14] <bllx> k
[09:14] <rewt_> MoeZzz what about install?
[09:14] <bllx> thanks
[09:14] <Mordof> hahaha
[09:14] <Angel_Dex> twb ho hum
[09:14] <GTX-> How can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, I've tried to find a reposity for this but cant find anything
[09:14] <set> !obouto write ntfs
[09:14] <ubotu> set: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:15] <set> !obouto write to ntfs
[09:15] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, set
[09:15] <soundray> Angel_Dex, find out the model name and search the web for installation reports. Recommend tuxmobil.de
[09:15] <set> !obouto writentfs
[09:15] <ubotu> set: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:15] <Mordof> ok, so how do i go about installing a splash screen and a login manager that i downloaded off of Gnome Art?
[09:15] <soundray> !ntfs
[09:15] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:15] <_jason> set: please don't spam the bot and writing to ntfs is not safe
[09:15] <twb> set: you are looking for the ntfs rw patch?
[09:15] <Angel_Dex> soundray thanks
[09:15] <sid> Can somenoe help me enable my sound card?
[09:15] <set> twb, yes
[09:15] <marseillai> anyone could tell where i can find (K)ubuntu for a sun ? i've heard about this but i don't find it!
[09:15] <twb> set: it sucks.
[09:15] <twb> set: it sucks a lot.
[09:15] <sid> !sound
[09:15] <ubotu> sound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:15] <twb> set: come back in 18 months.
[09:16] <set> twb, I need to fix boot.ini
[09:16] <Mordof> set, afaik its a bad idea to try to write to ntfs currently
[09:16] <sid> How do I restart my sound server?
[09:16] <Mordof> set, use the windows cd and do a repair
[09:16] <_jason> twb: you can probably do that somehow with the windows disk, although I don't know how
[09:16] <_jason> set I mean
[09:17] <set> Mordof, tried that
[09:17] <rewt_> Okay I just added rewt_: add 'snd_atiixp' to /etc/modules as root.
[09:17] <sid> Anyone? How do I restart my sound server?
[09:17] <Florob> sid: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[09:17] <set> Mordof, I know exactly what the error is... just need to change what partition it loads and it's fixed
[09:17] <arrinmurr> GTX-: google is your friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-104778.html
[09:17] <set> it's either that, or change the number of the windows partition
[09:17] <rewt_> So if I reboot it should work fine, in theory?
[09:17] <Mordof> set, then make a floppy that will boot up and edit the .ini file
[09:17] <sid> Florab, no file or directory
[09:18] <soundray> set, have a look at http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6659533347.html
[09:18] <soundray> set it may help.
[09:18] <twb> sid: aptitude reinstall alsa-utils
[09:18] <set> reading now
[09:18] <puppet> Hia anyone awake to help me with some charset issue?
[09:18] <GuestUMme> Hi every body!!
[09:18] <Angel_Dex> is setting up wireless difficult on just ubuntu or linux in general?
[09:18] <GuestUMme> somebody here can help me!!??
[09:18] <Florob> sid: might also be /etc/init.d/alsa restart on breezy (I'm on dapper right now)
[09:18] <twb> puppet: only if you stand on your head and drink a bucket of air.
[09:19] <GuestUMme> i got a doubt in ubuntu!
[09:19] <GuestUMme> _:S
[09:19] <soundray> Angel_Dex, on free operating systems in general.
[09:19] <twb> GuestUMme: no, speak up!
[09:19] <Mordof> Angel_Dex, my friend had troubles in fc as well
[09:19] <rewt_> Angel are you potty trained?
[09:19] <sid> I did that, and still none
[09:19] <sid> Im on Hoary
[09:19] <GuestUMme> :(
[09:19] <soundray> Angel_Dex, that's because of legal issues and closed hardware.
[09:19] <twb> Angel_Dex: the difficulty is crackhead hardware manufacturers.
[09:19] <puppet> twb: sure i can do that
[09:19] <Angel_Dex> Ok
[09:19] <puppet> twb: as long i get right on the local in irssi ;P
[09:19] <Angel_Dex> Many thanks my friends
[09:19] <Angel_Dex> I must leave
[09:19] <set> Wouldn't it be possible to change the numbers of the different partitions, then reconfigure grub and everything works, instead of changing the number of the partition within boot.ini ?
[09:20] <Florob> sid: judging from google this should work
[09:20] <GuestUMme> somebody here may tell me what is the name of the aplication the it's in this page   http://guias-ubuntu.ourproject.org/index.php?title=Imagen:Propiedades_del_interfaz.png??
[09:20] <GuestUMme> :S
[09:20] <Mordof> set, changing partition numbers n stuff will screw with windows loading correctly afaik
[09:20] <sid> Ive done a number of things ive found on google, nothing has worked
[09:20] <GuestUMme> please...
[09:20] <Mordof> set, thugh im not sure
[09:20] <set> Mordof, well. Guess what I did earlier? :P
[09:20] <Mordof> doing stuff like that outside of windows tends to make things weird
[09:20] <set> So, I want to change it back
[09:21] <Mordof> lol
[09:21] <Mordof> you were the one to change it?
[09:21] <puppet>  get strange in Irssi
[09:21] <graft> any amarok users here?
[09:21] <twb> Blame irssi.
[09:21] <olicat> anyone have much experience with using xkeycaps or xmodmap ?
[09:21] <puppet> but the problem is really that i cant generate other then UTF-8 locales
[09:21] <_jason> GuestUMme: looks like system > admin > networking > properties
[09:21] <sid> Eh, screw it florad, ill just upgrade to Breezy
[09:21] <sid> :D
[09:21] <puppet> dpkg-reconfigure just generate UTF-8
[09:21] <twb> 
[09:21] <GuestUMme> yes I know nut i wanna install it in debian
[09:21] <twb> !
[09:22] <GuestUMme> but i do not know is name
[09:22] <GuestUMme> :s
[09:22] <GuestUMme> :(
[09:22] <set> Mordof, I installed Linux first, then Windows. Windows is on partition 3. I reinstall Linux, make it only one partition, Windows turns into Partition 2 and won't boot because boot.ini tells Windows bootloader that Windows is located in partition 3. So either I change the numbers of the partitions or boot.ini
[09:22] <marseillai> anyone could tell where i can find (K)ubuntu for a sun ? i've heard about this but i don't find it!
[09:22] <GuestUMme> i've benn looking for it but i did not got it :(
[09:23] <soop> anyone familiar with samba?
[09:23] <Mordof> set, would be better to change boot.ini, do you have or are able to make a win98 bootdisk?
[09:23] <twb> If you don't have enough machines to run windows on a dedicated box, you probably don't have the experience to set up a dual boot system properly.
[09:23] <twb> That's what I say, anyway.
[09:23] <soundray> set, use parted to resize your Linux partition and add a tiny extra partition. Then Windows will be on 3 again.
[09:23] <Mordof> twb,  why not
[09:24] <twb> Mordof: why not what?
[09:24] <set> twb, you are completely right. I am the newbie and you are the master of everything. Yes, twb, you are my king.
[09:24] <Mordof> ive only ever had 1 computer and i did dual boot perfectly
[09:24] <soundray> twb, that's nonsense. Not everybody lives in an affluent country.
[09:24] <twb> Ot
[09:24] <set> soundray, problem is that Windows partition isn't the first one
[09:24] <Mordof> its just a matter of which OS to install first
[09:24] <soundray> set, my suggestion still applies.
[09:24] <Mordof> install windows, install linux. linux does everything, all OS's work fine
[09:24] <kyo> I want to organize my music colleciton. what is the bash line to organize by muscian?
[09:24] <thespore> How can I enable tv out?  I have a nvidia card w/ svideo-out and on Ubuntu 5.10
[09:24] <twb> Mordof: well, in *theory*.
[09:25] <set> soundray, I tried that by installing Ubuntu. But Ubuntu partitioner just made the two linux partitions 1 and 3
[09:25] <Mordof> twb, its always worked for me..
[09:25] <twb> Maybe it's improved lately
[09:25] <LadyNikon> what directory is the kernel located?
[09:25] <soundray> set, use parted to resize your Linux partition and add a tiny extra partition. Then Windows will be on 3 again.
[09:25] <soundray> set, did you read this?
[09:25] <rehpotsirhc> just type "organize t e h musak!@$!@$#!"
[09:25] <set> I'll try it. thanks
[09:25] <twb> My last dual boot system was OS X and Debian.
[09:25] <soop> >
[09:25] <soop> ?
[09:26] <Mordof> twb, in that case.. i wouldnt know which to work with first, and would probably screw things up
[09:26] <Mordof> ah! i wish i could find a guide to installing these stupid splash screens and login managers :S
[09:26] <kyo> Hmm interesting, amoraok organized the music for me. w00t
[09:26] <set> twb, fyi, I've been dual booting since 2001. Made one mistake. Not coming here to ask what mistake I did, coming here for advices on how to a) write to ntfs b) fix the partition table. What's up with the arrogance?
[09:26] <twb> set: because I'm the greatest person in the world.
[09:26] <soundray> set, don't take the bait ;)
[09:27] <kyo> oh crap, my CD drive won't open o_O
[09:27] <kyo> guess I have to manually eject it
[09:27] <mark__> what's the sudo apt-get command thing to build all essentials
[09:27] <twb> Maybe I should have said "experience to fix any cock-ups that arise" rather than simply "set up".
[09:27] <_jason> kyo: right click and go to eject
[09:27] <Mordof> how do i set my splash screen? its just a jpg image
[09:27] <twb> kyo: linux locks drives that are in use.
[09:27] <soundray> kyo, no, just do 'cd' in every open terminal and eject via the desktop icon.
[09:28] <twb> kyo: cat /proc/mounts to see where it is mounted, then use umount to unmount it.
[09:28] <MrFreeBird> hi guys. I have ubuntu installed in 2 machines on my office.  There is another linux server with samba installed, and it has many shared folders. Unfortunately, ubuntu machines does not see it. Whats wrong?
[09:28] <mark__> hey, can someone tell me the 'sudo apt-get' thing to build essentials?
[09:28] <kyo> hmm there, did it
[09:28] <soundray> twb, you are the greates person in the world. No need to correct yourself :)
[09:28] <set> twb, let me guess. unemployed, bitter on the world? guru in linux 'cause you ain't got nothing better to do? Bitter on the people that actually have better things to do than run around playing with their personal serverpark?
[09:29] <soundray> *greatest
[09:29] <twb> soundray: being great doesn't mean being infallible.
[09:29] <soundray> set, please!
[09:29] <olicat> does anyone know how i can make alt+3 produce a hash sign? i'm having some trouble getting it to work
[09:29] <MrFreeBird>  other machines with winXP can see the shared folder in linux server
[09:29] <olicat> xkeycaps says the keycode does produce a hash/pound sign - but it doesn't seem to work
[09:29] <twb> set: actually, I get paid to make Linux distributions.
[09:29] <soundray> set, I want to help you. Once you're kickbanned, that won't be possible.
[09:30] <twb> soundray: he ain't causin' no trouble.
[09:30] <_jason> set, twb: take it somewhere else please
[09:30] <twb> As you wish.
[09:31] <thespore> anyone know how to enable svideo out with ubuntu 5.10?
[09:31] <set> soundray, I shrinked and made a new partition. ntfs partition is still 2 and the new is 4
[09:31] <LadyNikon> what directory is the kernel located?  I need to know to install a program.
[09:31] <thespore> ie. enable 'clone' mode?
[09:31] <MrFreeBird> why cant I see other machines on my network?
[09:31] <soundray> set, did you shrink the first one?
[09:31] <set> yes
[09:31] <soundray> set, okay, sorry, I was wrong.
[09:32] <set> Ah. Now I know what to do. Don't worry. You've been of great help! :)
[09:32] <soundray> set, pity you p*ssed twb off.
[09:32] <set> soundray, I have to leave xchat to reboot into a live cd
[09:32] <soundray> set, okay, hope it works.
[09:32] <learner_learner> how can I optimise 5.10 to make it run as fast as possible... I'm low on resources.
[09:32] <set> soundray, he pissed himself off. Acting like an asshole spawns asshole actions towards yourself.
[09:32] <set> C'ya and thanks
[09:32] <olicat> anyone have any idea how to get my keyboard to produce hash/pound signs??
[09:32] <_jason> learner_learner: try xfce instead of gnome, or maybe even something like fluxbox
[09:33] <learner_learner> okay, _jason
[09:33] <Siempre_Es_De_No> server irc.unionlatina.org
[09:33] <MrFreeBird> help : ubuntu + samba = not working properly
[09:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell learner_learner about xubuntu
[09:33] <soundray> olicat, what layout are you using?
[09:33] <Spec> Where can I get me a guideline for making packages for ubuntu?
[09:34] <olicat> soundray, its uk
[09:34] <MrFreeBird> join #ubuntu-br
[09:34] <raphael> hi
[09:34] <raphael> the ubuntu, can be a server?
[09:34] <soundray> olicat, you don't have a # next to ]  ?
[09:34] <raphael> i newbie on linux lol
[09:34] <olicat> soundray, no, it's a mac keyboard
[09:34] <Spec> ubuntu-br?
[09:35] <hortian> hey folks... I think I might've made a pretty careless error in install ubuntu, and I'm wondering if there is a way to recover
[09:35] <Creeture> raphael: Yes. There is also a ubuntu server project that is more tuned to a server.
[09:35] <Creeture> hortian: Explain said error and we'll fix ya up.
[09:35] <soundray> olicat, Shift-Ctrl-23
[09:35] <_jason> Spec: checkout the topic in #ubuntu-motu
[09:35] <MrFreeBird> sorry, I typed wrong
[09:35] <raphael> is the 5.10?
[09:35] <kyo> what the heck ... my desktop is freezing up. windows won't close
[09:35] <olicat> soundray, no way, that does it
[09:36] <mark__> hey, can someone tell me the 'sudo apt-get' thing to build essentials?
[09:36] <olicat> soundray, can i remap that to just alt+3 ?
[09:36] <rewt_> When I add volume control to my menu, it doesnt show up? i mean its there i can right click for 20 mins and eventually find it, but why can I physically see it?
[09:36] <_jason> mark__: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:36] <raphael> ?
[09:36] <soundray> olicat, anything's possible, but don't ask me how :)
[09:36] <MrFreeBird> My ubuntu machine does not see other machines on network
[09:36] <hortian> basically, I had ubuntu installed on one partition, then installed windows on another partition (and the windows installer set the new partition as the default boot partition) ... I went back to the livecd to manually set the boot partition to the original ubuntu partition, but when I restart, it says that there is an error loading my OS
[09:36] <Creeture> raphael: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/5.10/
[09:36] <Draconicus> X just crashed for no apparent reasoN!
[09:36] <Draconicus> reason*
[09:37] <olicat> soundray, :) thanks for that, at least it's a clue
[09:37] <lakcaj> Draconicus, nothing in /var/log?
[09:37] <Spec> _jason: thanks muchly.
[09:37] <Draconicus> I think mplayer was broken and running in a background process... um.. lemme check that, lakcaj.
[09:37] <hortian> I'm sure that windows rewrote the boot records in a bad way, or something, but is there any way to fix it?
[09:37] <mark__> checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 3246: lex: command not found
[09:37] <mark__> configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up
[09:37] <raphael> Creeture, i have this ubuntu
[09:37] <Creeture> hortian: It is just a Grub setup error.
[09:37] <mark__> what would I have to install to make that work
[09:37] <mark__> some 'lex' library? :\
[09:37] <raphael> but how can i config it
[09:37] <slept> where is libdvdcss2 for breezy ?
[09:38] <rewt_> When I add volume control to my menu, it doesnt show up? i mean its there i can right click for 20 mins and eventually find it, but why can I physically see it? Can anyone help? :-\ Running Breezy
[09:38] <raphael> o sorry, i have read wrong
[09:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell slept about libdvdcss
[09:38] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ok, gave up with /proc at the moment, fsck running.
[09:38] <hortian> Creeture: is there a way to fix that by editing the grub configuration?
[09:38] <Creeture> raphael: That is a much different question.
[09:38] <Creeture> hortian: Absolutely.
[09:38] <raphael> i have the Breezy Badger
[09:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell hortian about grub
[09:39] <soundray> hortian, you can reinstall grub from a live CD.
[09:39] <mark__> is there some lex library I can install?
[09:39] <raphael> is the Breezy Badger, a server?
[09:39] <_jason> raphael: if you want it to be
[09:39] <raphael> _jason.. how?
[09:39] <rehpotsirhc> friends--tell me about this badger. is he cuddly??
[09:39] <amphi> raphael: what do you mean by 'server'?
[09:39] <soop> anyone familiar with SAMBA and ADS integration?
[09:40] <GTX-> Guys on vnc4server, why cant I see my desktop only a console?
[09:40] <Fleischlego> soundray: 2 found corruptions can be fixed when running with --fix-fixable <- BAH
[09:40] <raphael> i want, to do, a dns server, just to me use and a web sever
[09:40] <Draconicus> lakcaj: Fatal server error:
[09:40] <Draconicus>  Caught signal 7.  Server aborting
[09:40] <Draconicus> Whoops..
[09:40] <amphi> mark__: apt-get install flex
[09:40] <Draconicus> Sorry about the double line.
[09:40] <GTX-> Who knows somethng about vnc here?
[09:40] <mark__> thanks very much amphi :)
[09:40] <GTX-> vnc4server
[09:40] <Creeture> raphael: Have you ever configured a DNS server or web server before on any other operating systems?
[09:40] <raphael> no
[09:41] <soundray> Fleischlego, so do it -- is there a problem with that?
[09:41] <Creeture> I'm going to need a flash of lightning for this one.
[09:41] <amphi> raphael: you can do that - apache is one webserver; do you need a full blown dns server? dnsmasq is a handy caching dns forwarder, if not
[09:41] <Spec> I suggest standing on a roof and holding a large metal rod.
[09:41] <GTX-> Guys, what should I use to remotly see my desktop linux  to linux ( I need something like vnc )
[09:41] <Creeture> Spec: Care to join me? Afterward, I plan on walking to Antarctica.
[09:41] <MrFreeBird> alguem do brasil?
[09:42] <raphael> well, i use a internet dsl, but have a IP dinamic
[09:42] <raphael> eu sou do brasil
[09:42] <_jason> GTX-: do you want to connect through windows to the thing you enable in system > prefs > remote desktop?
[09:42] <_jason> !br
[09:42] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:42] <soundray> GTX-, how about vnc? xvncviewer host:0
[09:42] <raphael> and i wanna do a litle webser, justo to do one homepage
[09:42] <MrFreeBird> raphael, tudo bem? pode me ajudar?
[09:42] <amphi> raphael: dyndns perhaps
[09:42] <amphi> raphael: apache is very over-powered for that
[09:42] <Creeture> GTX-: There's an extension to VNC that allows :0 to serve as a VNC server. xfb0server I think it's called.
[09:43] <Spec> Creeture: That seems perfectly reasonable. I've been waiting for my chance to eat a penguin, anyways.
[09:43] <JloR> quad__ - hi :)
[09:43] <raphael> ai kra, falou pra entra no ubuntu-br entra, la q ai a galera num bloqueia, mas se quiser me add no msn raphaelfariasmiranda@gmail.com
[09:43] <amphi> raphael: do apt-cache search httpd for various web servers available
[09:43] <Windkracht8> gok has become the most irritating program in the world(yes worst then Windows), somehow the programmers thought it would be nice if gok would take over the control over the mouse and limit your mouse to the gok-program window, how the hell am I supposed to turn this off?
[09:43] <naetrick> Why is hdparm giving me "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted" when I try to turn on DMA on my drive (hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda)?
[09:43] <naetrick> Do I need some support or something in the kernel?
[09:43] <MrFreeBird> raphael, eu tenho ubuntu instalado numa maquina. Nao consigo encergar as outras que possuem compartilhamento.
[09:43] <amphi> naetrick: quite possibly
[09:43] <Buxexa> Anyone knows if the 'apt-get install j2re1.4' works on AMD64?
[09:44] <raphael> amphi, i have to type this on terminal?
[09:44] <_jason> naetrick: did you use sudo?
[09:44] <amphi> raphael: yes
[09:44] <naetrick> _jason: I was root :)
[09:44] <_jason> naetrick: hrmm, don't know then
[09:44] <MrFreeBird> raphael, mas as maquinas com windows conseguem
[09:44] <amphi> raphael: then you can do apt-cache show package_name for more info
[09:44] <soundray> Windkracht8, don't know gok, but usually it's an F key or something like Alt-Enter that liberates your mouse.
[09:44] <naetrick> probably some option not enabled in the kernel, lemme check
[09:44] <raphael> noh kra eh sou novo no linux tmb, eh melhor se entrar no ubuntu-br
[09:44] <Creeture> GTX-: Don't listen to me. _jason was correct. Just System / Preferences / Remote Desktop and turn it on.
[09:44] <quad__> :D JloR
[09:44] <Windkracht8> ok, going to try everything
[09:44] <amphi> naetrick: ide chipset support? dma support?
[09:44] <rewt_> When I add volume control to my menu, it doesnt show up? i mean its there i can right click for 20 mins and eventually find it, but why can I physically see it? Does no one know? :-\ Running Breezy
[09:45] <naetrick> amphi: That's it, just found it :)
[09:45] <Draconicus> In addition to X suddenly crashing as it did, xscreensaver has been acting odd. The daemon for xscreensaver has been stopping at random. Any ideas as to what my problem might be?
[09:45] <naetrick> I was _wondering_ why my drive was going so dang slow
[09:45] <meuserj> Any brave soul here get Dapper working with a Dual Monitor setup?
[09:45] <Creeture> naetrick: Could be your chipset support.
[09:45] <_jason> GTX-: vncviewer works to view your desktop, xvncviewer that soundray I haven't used but that's probably similar
[09:45] <Creeture> meuserj: It's no different than any other dual monitor setup in Linux.
[09:45] <amphi> naetrick: build ide chipset support monolithically ;)
[09:45] <hortian> Creeture: sorry, I'm still not seeing how to do this
[09:45] <raphael> amphi, what package name i shou type?
[09:46] <Creeture> hortian: What were we talking about again?
[09:46] <hortian> the partition with ubuntu did not change, it's still the first partition
[09:46] <Fleischlego> soundray: Okay, fsck done, what should I do now_
[09:46] <Engla> Hello. Is there any way to make transset "permanent". So that certain apps always have their opacity set to != 1 ?
[09:46] <Creeture> Ah.  You're grub guy.
[09:46] <hortian> how do I need to change the grub configuration?
[09:46] <meuserj> Creeture: I beg to differ... had it working perfectly under warty, hoary, and breezy, but Dapper freezes my machine solid when I try to start X with a second screen setup.
[09:46] <raphael> [b] amphi[/b] 
[09:46] <soundray> Fleischlego, burn some incense, slaughter a lamb, pray and reboot.
[09:47] <jatos> anyone know where ssh logs are stored?
[09:47] <Creeture> meuserj: Sounds like a bug then. If you know how to do it in 1 version, stands to reason that you're intelligent enough to make it work again in a newer one.
[09:47] <amphi> raphael: one that looks interesting in the output of apt-cache search httpd
[09:47] <Buxexa> Anyone knows if the 'apt-get install j2re1.4' works on AMD64?
[09:47] <soundray> _jason, it's the same.
[09:47] <_jason> jatos: auth logs show up in /var/logs/auth.log*
[09:47] <_jason> soundray: ah
[09:47] <jatos> ah
[09:48] <amphi> raphael: BTW, my nick is not '[b] amphi[/b] '
[09:48] <jatos> is that the log for just ssh, or for logins with everything?
[09:48] <jatos> I am trying to track down a hacking attempt
[09:48] <_jason> jatos: everything
[09:48] <Set> I fixed it
[09:48] <Draconicus> Wow. My very DEFAULT X just crashed on me, standard from the properly burned, perfectly installed Ubuntu Breezy Badger, and nobody is freaking out?!
[09:48] <_jason> jatos: but the lines relevant to ssh will mention ssh
[09:48] <Set> and only one nerd had a nervous breakdown. new record
[09:48] <amphi> Draconicus: not in the least
[09:48] <Creeture> hortian: It's for a different distro, but Gentoo's documentation on grub is pretty good. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
[09:48] <jatos>  thanks
[09:48] <Ng> Draconicus: I'll set my hair on ofire and run around if you like? ;)
[09:48] <raphael__> i use [b]  to do letter on bold, sorry
[09:49] <Draconicus> Well, crashing X is a big issue...
[09:49] <amphi> raphael__: I suspected as much
[09:49] <Ng> Draconicus: does the Xorg log in /var/log/ show anything? (it might have been renamed if X has started up again since)
[09:49] <Ng> Draconicus: indeed, so if you have any information I would strongly urge you to file a bug report
[09:49] <Ng> X should never crash
[09:49] <amphi> hahahaha
[09:49] <Ng> the issue is complicated a lot by binary drivers though
[09:49] <Draconicus> Ng: "Fatal server error: Caught signal 7.  Server aborting
[09:49] <Draconicus> " That's all I've got.
[09:49] <Creeture> Ng: hahahahahahahahahahahah One of the funniest things I've ever heard.
[09:49] <Buxexa> Anyone knows if the 'apt-get install j2re1.4' works on AMD64? PLEASE!!!
[09:49] <Jason> hey guys...im having trouble installing Ubuntu 5.10 on an iBook G3 300MHz...anyone think they can help?
[09:50] <Ng> Creeture: maybe you misinterpreted it then
[09:50] <raphael__> i don't know how to type bol here, on mirc was in this way, sorry so much
[09:50] <kyo> Jason,  be more specific
[09:50] <_jason> raphael__: you just do _bold_
[09:50] <Jason> i am able to boot from the install/live cds
[09:50] <Draconicus> Jason: Did you download the PPC version?
[09:50] <Ng> Draconicus: were you doing anything in particular at the time? if you can reproduce the crash it would be much easier to hunt
[09:50] <soundray> Buxexa, why shouldn't it, and why don't you just try?
[09:50] <Jason> yes
[09:50] <Jason> ppc version
[09:50] <Draconicus> Hmm..
[09:50] <_jason> raphael__: lol except thats underline, I mean *bold*
[09:50] <amphi> Ng: although, to be fair, xorg has _never_ crashed for me (unlike xfree86) - wm's are another story of course
[09:50] <raphael__> ok
[09:50] <Creeture> Ng: All I heard was "should never crash". That was enough to be funny.
[09:51] <raphael__> but, come back on webserver lol, how can i config?
[09:51] <Buxexa> soundray,  because it's 22mb and Im downloading for 5kb/s
[09:51] <MisterN> brb
[09:51] <amphi> raphael__: by reading the copious documentation provided ;)
[09:51] <Buxexa> soundray,  and I only saw one instalation method for java on the Ubuntu Wiki site...
[09:51] <raphael__> where?
[09:51] <Jason> when i type install as the first command...it looks ok until it says "setting up filesystem" and then it shows all these different errors
[09:51] <Draconicus> Ng: I suspect that it had something to do with mplayer. Things were bogging down, and I recalled that, in other Linux distros, I've experienced mplayer deciding to stay open even when it's closed and finished. I went into gnome-system-monitor, and X crashed a second after it opened, which was preceded by a great deal of lag and memory consumption.
[09:52] <Jason> and it finally says "Kernal panic- not syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[09:52] <Jason> "rebooting in 180 seconds"
[09:52] <Jason> anyone know what that means?
[09:52] <amphi> Draconicus: what mplayer driver were you using?
[09:52] <Ng> Draconicus: hmm (and yes, mplayer does love to hang around)
[09:53] <instabin> !azureus
[09:53] <ubotu> hmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:53] <Ng> Draconicus: try playing the same movie and see if you can provoke it again maybe?
[09:53] <soundray> Buxexa, if you give me a few minutes, I will try installing it here (on amd64).
[09:53] <Draconicus> amphi: "mplayer driver"? o_O
[09:53] <Jason> sorry...idk what mplayer is
[09:53] <amphi> Draconicus: -vo foo
[09:53] <Draconicus> Ng: I can't be certain which movie it was playing. I hadn't played anything in mplayer for a day or so. It must have been running, though, in the background.
[09:53] <Fleischlego> soundray: No change, smame problem exists.
[09:53] <Buxexa> soundray,  do u have java plugin for FireFox ?!
[09:53] <soundray> Buxexa, no.
[09:53] <Ng> Draconicus: ah, doh
[09:53] <amphi> Draconicus: or vo=foo in ~/.mplayer/conifg
[09:54] <raphael__> amphi? where can i see the documentation?
[09:54] <amphi> *config
[09:54] <Buxexa> then try it for me please...
[09:54] <MoeZzz> anyone can help me installing ubuntu ?
[09:54] <soundray> Buxexa, I have an old laptop with 32bit for when I really need flash or java.
[09:54] <amphi> raphael__: /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE_NAME, man whatever_it_is, man whatever_it_is.conf, google, ...
[09:54] <Set> soundray, I fixed it :) Just booted into Windows recovery, ran a command I don't remember in the speed, used SimplyMepis to reinstall Grub and all was good. Thanks for the tip!
[09:54] <kyo> MoeZzz, whats the question
[09:54] <TLE> Hi, I'm lookign for a program for cutting mpeg streams (recorded with my TV card). In Windoze I found one with a quick jump function, so that if you pressed wuickjump it showed you 16 pictures with say 15 seconds interval, which ypu could then choose to jump to. Does anyone know if there exist a soultion like that for Ubuntu (Has to be without audio sync problems, I've had to many of those ;) )
[09:55] <soundray> Set, well done, glad it worked.
[09:55] <soundray> Fleischlego, are you back on the live CD?
[09:55] <Fleischlego> soundray: Booting.
[09:55] <raphael__> ok thanks
[09:55] <Set> soundray, Yeah. Now I can go bother some other developers. :)
[09:55] <MoeZzz> kyo: i have installed ubuntu and when it finished it asked me to take the CD and the to Continue.. then the system rebooted while turning on my system didnt find any bootable devive, i set it to boot from HDD and still have the same problem
[09:55] <Draconicus> amphi: Again, I can't be sure what I was playing at the time. Some files were actually deleted or moved when I had finished watching them.
[09:55] <Set> thx and bye
[09:56] <phbc50> hello
[09:56] <zubuntu> hi all
[09:57] <oonoon> did someone install matlab on ubuntu x86_64 ?
[09:57] <oonoon> it seems to be impossible; damn ubuntu
[09:57] <soundray> Buxexa, installed, now testing...
[09:57] <Fleischlego> soundray: Back on line. :)
[09:58] <tomek_> Hi
[09:58] <tomek_> my name is tom
[09:58] <Buxexa> soundray,  Are u talking about the apt-get install j2re1.4 ?!
[09:58] <quad__> My soundcard isnt making any sound, how do I check the drivers/settings?
[09:58] <tomek_> I from Poland
[09:58] <_jason> !pl
[09:58] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[09:58] <soundray> Buxexa, yes. I've got ImageJ running with it now.
[09:58] <tomek_> aha ok
[09:58] <quad__> And i am not sure what brand the card is, its onboard and _old_
[09:58] <Buxexa> soundray,  then, its working?
[09:59] <alec_guiness> hi!
[09:59] <hortian> Creeture: looks like I got it working, thanks!
[09:59] <Jason> so does anyone have an ideas to fix my problem?
[09:59] <bobopopomo> hi
[09:59] <bobopopomo> anyone can help me with pinnacle tv-card?
[09:59] <bobopopomo> i have no sound
[09:59] <alec_guiness> im looking for a way to restrict access of users to their home directory and any links inside that directory
[09:59] <jenda> !dvd
[09:59] <ubotu> dvd is probably DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:59] <rend> how can i see whan process is using /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[09:59] <Psi-Jack> Unable to install the selectect kernel. An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system.  Kernel Package: 'linux-386'   <-- I get this error when I setup an installation to multiple partitions, /boot, /, /usr, /var, /home, etc.. When I setup just a /boot and / it's worked. This has happened on TWO machines now, and I need to know what's wrong, and why it keeps doing this.
[10:00] <soundray> Buxexa, there is a libjavaplugin... I can test that, too, if that would help.
[10:00] <soundray> Fleischlego, does grub give you any errors?
[10:00] <alec_guiness> basically an encrypted file server that gives upload rights in the home directory and read only access to directories that i specify
[10:00] <raphael_> i'm here again
[10:00] <raphael_> amphi here one more time lol
[10:00] <Fleischlego> soundray: It's initrd giving errors.
[10:01] <Draconicus> A link from GAIM just tried to launch an older version of Firefox. o..O
[10:01] <Buxexa> soundray,  but it works as firefox plugin?
[10:01] <rend> what should i do about skype telling me /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[10:01] <amphi> raphael_: you rang? ;)
[10:01] <soundray> Buxexa, testing now.
[10:01] <Fleischlego> soundray: My devices are not created by udev but I don't know why.
[10:01] <_jason> Draconicus: change the settings in system > prefs > preferrred apps
[10:01] <Psi-Jack> rend: Get the seveas skype package with skype-dsp-hijacker which I helped fix up even better. :)
[10:01] <Psi-Jack> !skype
[10:01] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:01] <soundray> Fleischlego, what errors? Paste on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if there's a lot.
[10:01] <Psi-Jack> rend: Second link
[10:01] <jatos> is their any software I can use to try and get the original version of an edited file?
[10:02] <Fleischlego> soundray: Just ALERT! /dev/sda3 does not exist. Dropping into a shell, blah.
[10:02] <jatos> my auth.log appears destinctly edited!
[10:02] <soundray> Fleischlego, is that the breezy or dapper kernel, or both?
[10:02] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ah, and some framebuffer modules with version conflict stuff.
[10:02] <_jason> jatos: how so?
[10:02] <Fleischlego> Both kernels.
[10:02] <Psi-Jack> Can anyone help me with my installation problem?
[10:02] <raphael_> i using the netstat to find one ip
[10:02] <jatos> records removed
[10:02] <GTX> Guy's If Ive got vmware running in gui, is there anyway to switch the gui server off
[10:02] <GTX> when its not needed to reduce load
[10:02] <GTX> and then switch it back on
[10:02] <GTX> or not
[10:02] <raphael_> but the ip on my pc is just 192.0.0.98
[10:03] <Fleischlego> the system is not booting at all. And I get always the same errors.
[10:03] <jatos> there are a lot of missing records from when I know someone went into my system
[10:03] <raphael_> i don't see incoming connections
[10:03] <JloR> Is it possible for me to get xserver-xorg 7.0 (xorg / X11R6 / whatever) on Ubuntu 5.10 ? I wanted to try out xgl..
[10:03] <Fleischlego> But me=idiot. I have no kernel booting without initrd at the moment. :/
[10:03] <rewt_> hey i figured out my volume icon problem :-D
[10:03] <_jason> jatos: well they get backed up, look at auth.log.0 and then the .gz ones that are in there too
[10:03] <FarrisG> Any dhcpd experts in here? I've had dhcpd v3 running on a debian box for over two years now. Without any configuration changes, suddenly this week it's taking 10 to 15 minutes for windows clients to properly get a lease/address. Linux clients are fine. I've tried rebooting the server, flushing the leases, changing the range, nothing helps. As far as the syslog shows, the leases are being assigned instantaneously, but the clients are hang
[10:03] <MoeZzz> kyo: any answer ?
[10:03] <_jason> jatos: I shouldn't say backed up, it's more like rotated
[10:03] <raphael_> amphi?
[10:04] <soundray> Fleischlego, give me a minute to test that plugin for Buxexa. In the meantime, see if you can unpack a kernel package from /var/cache/apt/archives and copy the initrd to /boot/ in case it's corrupted.
[10:04] <jatos> I looked in auth.log.o
[10:04] <MoeZzz> anyone can help me installing ubuntu ?
[10:04] <Fleischlego> soundray: Okay.
[10:04] <raphael_> MoeZzz what problem do you have?
[10:05] <naetrick> Why might I be getting "FATAL: error inserting module ....: Invalid module format"?
[10:05] <Jason> how can i format a drive in linux command line?
[10:05] <naetrick> When trying to modprobe a drive, of course
[10:05] <kyo> MoeZzz, sorry whats your question again?
[10:05] <naetrick> module*
[10:05] <Jason> ?
[10:06] <raphael_> MoeZzz?
[10:06] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone tell me how to remove a hardware device in ubuntu???
[10:06] <jatos> bits missing between 21:15 and 12:17 by the looks
[10:06] <Psi-Jack> Unable to install the selectect kernel. An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system.  Kernel Package: 'linux-386'   <-- I get this error when I setup an installation to multiple partitions, /boot, /, /usr, /var, /home, etc.. When I setup just a /boot and / it's worked. This has happened on TWO machines now, and I need to know what's wrong, and why it keeps doing this.
[10:06] <soundray> Buxexa, the plugin loaded okay. Do you have a site with a java applet that I can load for testing?
[10:06] <keherman> what is the APT wild card character to match multiple packages?
[10:07] <Psi-Jack> Ergh. s/selectect/selected/
[10:07] <rewt_> MoeZza, join me on #ubuninst
[10:07] <Buxexa> soundray, http://caixa.gov.br
[10:07] <Fleischlego> soundray: It seems I did a apt clean. :)
[10:07] <raphael_> Buxexa, what did you do on this website?
[10:07] <Fleischlego> it's kinda empty.
[10:08] <MoeZzz> kyo: i have installed ubuntu and when it finished it asked me to take the CD and the to Continue.. then the system rebooted while turning on my system didnt find any bootable devive, i set it to boot from HDD and still have the same problem
[10:08] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone tell me how to remove a hardware device?
[10:08] <Buxexa> raphael_, none, but I saved this for test java applet.
[10:08] <soundray> Fleischlego, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/ ?
[10:08] <MoeZzz> raphael : i have installed ubuntu and when it finished it asked me to take the CD and the to Continue.. then the system rebooted while turning on my system didnt find any bootable devive, i set it to boot from HDD and still have the same problem
[10:08] <raphael_> ok
[10:08] <raphael_> Buxexa, do you know how to find incoming ip?
[10:08] <Buxexa> raphael_, no..
[10:09] <graft> incoming ip?
[10:09] <bllx> twb you still here?
[10:09] <fletch33> afternoon all1 i was just tryingto get an apt-get update and i received a message that " could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied) unable to lock the directory " anyone know what i might have done to casue this. i need this to work. thanks
[10:09] <Buxexa> soundray,  did you test?!
[10:09] <soundray> Buxexa, doesn't work: displays puzzle pieces. Are these definitely java plugins (not flash)?
[10:09] <JloR> How can I easily upgrade from breezy (5.10) to dapper?
[10:09] <kyo> MoeZzz, : weird ... did you manually or automatically partition the drive during the installation?
[10:09] <hamdinp> merhaba iinizde trke bilen varm
[10:09] <graft> JloR: just change 'breezy' to 'dapper' in your sources.list, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:09] <JloR> thank you
[10:09] <Buxexa> soundray,  dunno...
[10:09] <_jason> !dapper
[10:09] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[10:09] <naetrick> Why am I getting "FATAL: Error inserting <module>: Invalid module format"?
[10:10] <Buxexa> soundray,  did you know any site with java?
[10:10] <JloR> you know - I've been in here for a while, and asked a few questions.. you're the first to answer :) If you ever get near Denmark, I'll buy you a beer.
[10:10] <MoeZzz> kyo: yes i did
[10:10] <graft> I highly doubt that...
[10:10] <graft> how could i find you in denmark?
[10:10] <MoeZzz> manualy i set the primary partition and the swap one
[10:10] <JloR> hehe, you could ask - and it's not that big.
[10:10] <kyo> MoeZzz, : auto or manual?
[10:10] <graft> it's also cold
[10:10] <fletch33> anyone get a look at my last post here i am really confused as to why this would happen
[10:10] <keherman> how do i install all packages LIKE "foo-1 foo-2 foo-3" in one "foo-*" ???
[10:10] <JloR> THATs true.. :\
[10:11] <MoeZzz> manual
[10:11] <Buxexa> soundray,  I think I know one.. let-me try
[10:11] <_jason> keherman: yeah, I think that works
[10:11] <fletch33> my apt-get update is not working
[10:11] <soundray> Buxexa, I found an old plugin that I wrote myself. It crashes the browser :)
[10:11] <keherman> _jason, it does not
[10:12] <bllx> anyone know how to remove a ghost partition from /media ? it still shows on a disk I formatted. I sudo rm -rf it but it returns. Can't see it mentioned in /etc/fstab...
[10:12] <Creeture> fletch33: looks like permissions. You doing it as root?
[10:12] <_jason> keherman: I just tried it
[10:12] <fletch33> nope
[10:12] <fletch33> Creeture, sorrry no
[10:12] <Creeture> fletch33: do it as root. You have no choice in the matter.
[10:12] <soundray> bllx, just ignore it.
[10:12] <_jason> keherman: 'sudo apt-get -s install gtk*' gave me a long list of selections
[10:12] <bllx> bah
[10:12] <bllx> is that really the answer?
[10:13] <keherman> _jason, but it does not install them!
[10:13] <bllx> i managed to 'delete 'the yaboot stuff that was in it
[10:13] <keherman> _jason, it gives you suggestions
[10:13] <soundray> Fleischlego, which dapper kernel did you install?
[10:13] <_jason> keherman: I don't think so, let me find something i can try without messing up my box
[10:13] <keherman> r-cran-*
[10:13] <Buxexa> soundray,  http://webchat.brasnet.org/frame.php?nick=Zanza&canal=ajuda
[10:14] <Buxexa> try it..
[10:14] <fletch33> Creeture, ok i did it as sudo and check this out http://pastebin.com/554892
[10:14] <_jason> keherman: that's a lot of stuff
[10:14] <soundray> Buxexa, any java plugin crashes firefox.
[10:14] <captain_legless> okay creeture i tried to install the sk98lin driver you told me about, but the install.sh comes back with errors like Check compiler not found, Check make not found, and Check kernel gcc version (3.4.5) (Kernel:3.4.5 != gcc:729:)
[10:14] <_jason> keherman: 0 upgraded, 76 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:14] <Buxexa> soundray,  omg, then this plugin isnt working?
[10:15] <soundray> Buxexa, your best bet is to set up a 32-bit chroot.
[10:15] <keherman> _jason, how did you do it?
[10:15] <_jason> keherman: how did you write the command?
[10:15] <chx> anyone have some ideas where a python something called xmltramp could be found?
[10:15] <_jason> keherman: sudo apt-get -s install r-cran-*, you take off the '-s' since that means simulate
[10:15] <keherman> _jason, aptitude install r-cran-* dfoes not work
[10:15] <Creeture> captain_legless: Which version of Ubuntu are you running? Breezy with the 2.6.12-10-686 kernel has it already.
[10:15] <_jason> keherman: use apt-get, seems to work there
[10:16] <Buxexa> Anyone knows how to install java plugin and flash plugin for AMD64?
[10:16] <soundray> Buxexa, in a 32-bit chroot.
[10:16] <Creeture> fletch33: the first line means that the download failed. everything after that is caused by the first.
[10:16] <keherman> _jason, i want to use aptitude!
[10:16] <tatters> I have 2 network devices listed ra0 and lo  when I want to setup iptables which device do I use ,,,?
[10:16] <fletch33> Creeture,  yeah it made it thru 99% of it and then i got that
[10:16] <Buxexa> soundray,  it's my first time in Linux, then I dont know what is it...
[10:16] <captain_legless> i'm running 5.10, that has the kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[10:16] <soundray> !tell Buxexa about chroot
[10:17] <_jason> keherman: what's the difference!, you probably need to read man aptitude to see how it handles it then
[10:17] <Creeture> fletch33: Maybe see if you can wget it. Try the apt-get update again.
[10:17] <fletch33> Creeture, i am trying to install a tar for the first time not from synaptic and i was told to update my apt-get but it is not working
[10:17] <fletch33> Creeture, k
[10:17] <ulirudde> Hello all, Does anyone know what a .dsk file is?
[10:18] <Psi-Jack> Unable to install the selected kernel. An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system.  Kernel Package: 'linux-386'   <-- I get this error when I setup an installation to multiple partitions, /boot, /, /usr, /var, /home, etc.. When I setup just a /boot and / it's worked. This has happened on TWO machines now, and I need to know what's wrong, and why it keeps doing this. I would really like some help
[10:18] <soundray> Fleischlego, I'm off, hope you can fix it. Viel Glueck...
[10:18] <Fleischlego> soundray: 2.6.15-15-k7
[10:18] <Fleischlego> Uh.
[10:18] <soundray> Fleischlego, okay...
[10:18] <Fleischlego> laters.
[10:18] <fletch33> Creeture, same prob
[10:18] <Creeture> ulirudde: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=dsk
[10:18] <Creeture> fletch33: can you wget the file?
[10:18] <Fleischlego> soundray: if I could fix it I would not sit in this chan. :)
[10:19] <mkyb14> i'm trying to install the updated gdesklets and it says in the directions that after you do ./configure to run make install... but this does nothing?
[10:19] <fletch33> Creeture, not sure what that is sorry
[10:19] <naetrick> I get this error in dmesg when trying to modprobe a module in my kernel, which is unsuccessful: "go7007_usb: version magic '2.6.15-ck4 SMP preempt 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-ck4 SMP 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4'
[10:19] <Creeture> fletch33: you type wget http://.... (the filename in line 1 of your pastebin)
[10:19] <XXX> Sorry is a bit silly my question but why I can't use my nick...anymore
[10:19] <naetrick> Does that mean the drive doesn't support kernels with preempt?
[10:19] <mike-e> hi what is the gnome application that lets you bind keys to certain commands?
[10:19] <Creeture> mike-e: it's part of metacity, the window manager.
[10:19] <twb> ...and another thing...
[10:20] <tatters> I have 2 network devices listed ra0 and lo  when I want to setup firewall which device do I use ,,,?  ra0
[10:20] <Creeture> mike-e: System / Preferences / Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:20] <twb> rhythmbox claims "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins" for an mp3.  That seems wrong for a fresh ubuntu install.
[10:20] <soundray> Fleischlego, there are probably more competent people around then me. But I'll give it another go...
[10:20] <mike-e> Creeture the last time i got to the place i hat to run somthing that started with a g
[10:21] <soundray> Fleischlego, were you able to replace your initrd?
[10:21] <twb> tatters: lo is the loopback device, which only you can see.
[10:21] <mkyb14> how do you install files that you are told to with make install?  .. i tried make install-sh / sudo make install / sudo make install-sh    etc
[10:21] <Buxexa> soundray,  the chroot is only for install or I need it open to run any i386 file?
[10:21] <twb> tatters: therefore ra0 is a better guess.
[10:21] <mark__> hey, could someone give me some advice? everytime I open fireglcontrol panel and set up two monitors, it says you need to restart X. and when I do. the two monitors aren't being used. how can I fix this?
[10:21] <Creeture> mike-e: it's in the gnome-conf stuff somewhere too. Hang on...
[10:21] <instabin> how do i update azureus to version 2.4.0.0
[10:21] <mike-e> i just had to reinstall so i need to set these keys back
[10:21] <mike-e> =/
[10:21] <asdfdf> Hi. I've got a simple question. I just bought a HD based digital audio player (like an iPod, but to be specific, an iAudio X5). Transfering music to it is no problem. However, is unmounting the drive enough to safely disconnect the device? Or is there something else I must do, similar to when I disconnect a USB device in Windows via that tray icon, to safely disconnect it?
[10:21] <twb> mark__: can't you just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:21] <anto9us> is there a gnome applet that shows keyboard led status?
[10:22] <tatters> k twb thnx
[10:22] <soundray> Buxexa, it's for running specific applications that you can't get to work in amd64, ie. flash, firefox-java and Adobe Reader.
[10:22] <captain_legless> creeture how can i get my hands on ttp://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=dsk
 fletch33: can you wget the file?
[10:22] <captain_legless> * XXX has joined #ubuntu
 soundray: if I could fix it I would not sit in this chan. :)
 i'm trying to install the updated gdesklets and it says in the directions that after you do ./configure to run make install... but this does nothing?
 Creeture, not sure what that is sorry
[10:22] <naetrick> anto9us: That's a good idea for an app... I should make one :)
[10:22] <captain_legless> * thomas has joined #ubuntu
[10:22] <captain_legless> *
[10:22] <Xappe> mark__: I used fglrxconfig for my dual head setup without any problems...
[10:22] <captain_legless> oops
[10:22] <fletch33> Creeture,  ok i did the wget and got this http://pastebin.com/554909 and then tried again and it still didnt work
[10:22] <twb> asdfdf: make sure it's unmounted, then "eject /dev/sda" if it still complains.
[10:22] <mike-e> asdfdf : just pull it off the cable
[10:22] <soundray> Buxexa, all other programs you run as usual.
[10:22] <anto9us> naetrick, can you have it ready in the next hour or so?
[10:22] <mark__> Xappe, it just wont work in dual monitors after i set it to
[10:22] <anto9us> :)
[10:22] <mark__> even after restarting Xserver
[10:22] <asdfdf> thanks. just wanted to make sure that unmounting it was enough.
[10:22] <Creeture> fletch33: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[10:23] <twb> asdfdf: usually it will not care even if it's still mounted.
[10:23] <naetrick> anto9us: I doubt it... I'm working on something else right now. Can't you just look at your keyboard for now?
[10:23] <Xappe> mark__: have you tried fglrxconfig (not the firegl gui)?
[10:23] <mark__> not sure
[10:23] <mark__> hold on
[10:23] <rewt_> Is there any way to make all windows in Breezy semi transparent?
[10:23] <Buxexa> soundray,  but I need to open this program all time that I want to use flash, firefox java, etc? or only to install these programs?
[10:23] <soundray> Buxexa, but setting up a chroot is not a good beginner's exercise. You could install i386 instead, it runs just as well on Athlon 64's
[10:23] <mike-e> Creeture : find it?
[10:23] <keherman> # aptitude install 'r-cran-~n' <-- '~n' is the wildcard for aptitude
[10:23] <fletch33> captain_legless, Creeture , i did the wget and it didnt help
[10:23] <Buxexa> mmmm
[10:23] <anto9us> naetrick, yes, but the trouble is, it's a wireless one without any leds on it
[10:23] <mkyb14> captain_legless, why did you repaste my question?
[10:23] <mike-e> Creeture : it's something like gconf or something
[10:23] <Xappe> mark__: and make a backup of your original /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <mark__> okay Xappe
[10:23] <mark__> thanks
[10:24] <_jason> keherman: ah I see, seems dumb to me to introduce new schemes, but ok
[10:24] <Xappe> mark__: /etc/X11/xorg.conf that is
[10:24] <keherman> _jason, yeah * would be nicer
[10:24] <Creeture> mike-e: gconf-editor
[10:24] <speen> Hi there! I was wondering how one can disable devices in Ubuntu?
[10:24] <soundray> Fleischlego, still there?
[10:24] <Fleischlego> Zeah.
[10:24] <Fleischlego> Yeah.
[10:24] <twb> Can I pin Debian/experimental packages in a Ubuntu install?
[10:24] <speen> 22:24 [ graft           ]  [ nullman        ]  [ zubuntu        ] 
[10:24] <soundray> Fleischlego, no progress?
[10:25] <Creeture> mike-e: Look under the apps/metacity/global_keybindings tree
[10:25] <Fleischlego> i just found out that initrd are created local
[10:25] <naetrick> anto9us: Ahh, ok. Tell ya what. PM naetrick_ with your email, and when I get it done, I'll send you a copy :)
[10:25] <fletch33> Creeture,  i think there is aproblem in /var/lib/apt/lists/archive
[10:25] <Fleischlego> Or more, I remembered it.
[10:25] <soundray> Fleischlego, I see, that wasn't a good hint then.
[10:25] <Creeture> fletch33: did the wget succeed?
[10:26] <fletch33> yes i posted it for ya here http://pastebin.com/554909
[10:26] <mkyb14> how do you install files that are install-sh
[10:26] <anto9us> naetrick, thanks, I think I'm going to install gkrellm though :)
[10:26] <soundray> Fleischlego, did you put that dapper kernel into a running breezy system?
[10:26] <twb> What's that GNOME browser that isn't galeon?
[10:26] <twb> epiphany?
[10:26] <fletch33> Creeture,  sorry i forgot to ad ur name did u see my last post
[10:26] <naetrick> anto9us: Ahh, ok, didn't know that had a plugin for that. Glad you found what you needed
[10:26] <Fleischlego> soundray: Yes, call me a dork. :/
[10:27] <speen> Does anyone know how I can disable my usb mouse in ubuntu?
[10:27] <soundray> Fleischlego, I'm fully focussed on solving your problem, not assigning blame :)
[10:27] <twb> speen: yes, rmmod usb-uhci or something like that.
[10:27] <Creeture> fletch33: I had to scroll back, but I see it now.
[10:27] <Fleischlego> soundray: Well, someone told me that he did and it worked.
[10:27] <soundray> Fleischlego, have you got a single-partition setup, or is your /home separate?
[10:28] <bobbyd> hi
[10:28] <speen> twb: ok thank you.
[10:28] <Fleischlego> soundray: System is on one partition, other stuff is data-store.
[10:28] <soundray> Fleischlego, I am guilty of dishing out that kind of advice... It worked for me once.
[10:28] <bobbyd> my spell checkere is broken in tunderbird and OO.o, what should I do? can I just reinstall the spell checker?
[10:28] <Fleischlego> soundray: LOL! :)
[10:28] <soundray> Fleischlego, I was going to suggest you go all the way to dapper and upgrade the whole system.
[10:28] <twb> speen: or you could just unplug it.
[10:28] <Tetrasoft> Hi everyone!!! :-)
[10:28] <Fleischlego> soundray: Tried that.
[10:28] <malcore> ciao
[10:29] <soundray> Fleischlego, still no go?
[10:29] <Fleischlego> soundray: Downloads succeded. But I have still the /dev/null problem.
[10:29] <Fleischlego> soundray: /dev/null is not writable, that kills the package installing.
[10:29] <twb> bobbyd: please describe clearly the undesireable symptoms you are experiencing.
[10:29] <soundray> Fleischlego, flatten the root partition and do a fresh install then :(
[10:30] <soundray> Fleischlego, you could just as well reinstall breezy in that case.
[10:30] <Fleischlego> soundray: huah
[10:30] <bobbyd> twb, the spell checked doesn't find and misspelled words even when I intentioally misspell them to test it
[10:30] <Jerk> Xappe, what was that command again?
[10:30] <Fleischlego> soundray: No good news.
[10:30] <bobbyd> twb, it just says there are no misspelled words
[10:30] <soundray> Fleischlego, have you got a reasonably fast way of backing up?
[10:30] <twb> bobbyd: that sounds to me like spell checking is not enabled.
[10:30] <twb> bobbyd: do you know what spell checker you are using?
[10:30] <Fleischlego> well...
[10:30] <Fleischlego> Yeah, the other partitions.
[10:30] <rewt_> Any way to make all windows semi-transparent in breezy?
[10:31] <twb> rewt_: yes, see freedesktop.org's stuff about xcomposite and xdamage.
[10:31] <twb> rewt_: you may have to recompile X.
[10:31] <Fleischlego> I will copy the root partition to a data partition then. :/
[10:31] <soundray> Fleischlego, you don't seem inclined...
[10:31] <bobbyd> twb, ispell aspell and gtkspell are installed
[10:32] <twb> bobbyd: OK, good.  What applications are you trying to spellcheck in?
[10:32] <Mark____> whats the name of the xorg config file?
[10:32] <twb> Mark____: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <Mark____> thanks
[10:32] <Mark____> :)
[10:32] <bobbyd> twb, tunderbird and openoofice.org , like I said :)
[10:32] <twb> Mark____: That is one of many, but I suspect it is the one you want :-)
[10:32] <twb> bobbyd: sorry, I'm lazy.
[10:33] <rewt_> i dont see anything about xcomposite or xdamage in freedesktop.org
[10:33] <twb> bobbyd: do you know what dictionaries are installed?
[10:33] <soundray> Fleischlego, if you think that something is wrong with your devices...
[10:33] <bobbyd> twb, no, how do I find out
[10:33] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here use SharpMusique?
[10:33] <soundray> Fleischlego, have you tried to remake them?
[10:33] <rewt_> i found xcomposite
[10:33] <Fleischlego> well, I thought it's just a ... kernel or initrd problem.
[10:33] <rewt_> now looking for damage
[10:33] <twb> bobbyd: um...
[10:34] <twb> bobbyd: I think it's called something like ienglish.
[10:34] <Mordof> question: has anyone here successfully gotten xgl working?
[10:34] <soundray> Fleischlego, do you know about mknod?
[10:34] <Fleischlego> soundray: How remaking?
[10:34] <twb> Yeah, ienglish and ibritish.
[10:34] <tatters> does anyone know what I need to add to repos to get hostsenty?
[10:34] <Fleischlego> soundray: Oh, well... No. :/
[10:35] <tatters> I got portsentry but hostsentry doesnt show up in repos
[10:35] <mike-e> Creeture : gconf-editor
[10:35] <soundray> Fleischlego, 'sudo mknod /mnt/dev/null c 1 3' from the live CD for example.
[10:35] <twb> Heh, I thought Ubuntu was packaged with XP fonts for a moment, until I realized OO.org had got them from my ~/.fonts on the fileserver :-)
[10:35] <Cylindric> Can someone help with an ATI 9800 driver install?  I've followed various instructions I've found, but still seem to be stuck in MESA mode :(  I'm not sure what info to give, I've not seen any error.  (xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8662,  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8663, messages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8664)
[10:35] <speen> twb: sorry to bother you again. You see my problem is that my recid: sorry, I'm lazy.
[10:35] <speen> 22:32 -!- FL [n=Francis@org51-1-82-226-143-237.fbx.proxad.net]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
[10:35] <speen> 22:33 < rewt_> i dont see anything about xcomposite or xdamage in freedesktop.org
[10:35] <speen> bbah
[10:36] <twb> Cylindric: what does "lspci | grep VGA" return?
[10:36] <soundray> Fleischlego, or look at /sbin/MAKEDEV -- perhaps you can remake all devices with a customized version of that script.
[10:36] <rewt_> speen?
[10:36] <Cylindric> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a4e
[10:36] <Fleischlego> soundray: Well, "/dev: file exists" :)
[10:37] <speen> I'll try again, My problem is that an other wireless device has installed itself on my system, Its the device of someone living in the apartmant next to me
[10:37] <twb> Cylindric: ew.
[10:37] <rewt_> Cylindric..what happened?
[10:37] <speen> While I use a cord mouse
[10:37] <twb> Cylindric: I was hoping for something like "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]  (rev 01)"
[10:37] <speen> So now his signal is beeing picked up by my reciver that I use for my wireless keyboard
[10:37] <Fleischlego>  /dev => /dev/null
[10:38] <speen> and My mouse is going awall
[10:38] <Cylindric> Me too :D  Not sure what happened tbh.  I've tried SUSE and Fedora recently, and they both reported it correctly
[10:38] <twb> speen: I think that is a pre-linux problem.
[10:38] <tatters> sleen u ever considered lead lining apartment?
[10:38] <twb> Cylindric: Oh!
[10:38] <Psi-Jack> linux-restricted-modules has an MD5Sum mismatch, ON THE CD. How the heck do I get around such an error? ;/
[10:38] <speen> tatters:  =P
[10:38] <Cylindric> I managed to get SUSE to work with 3D too, although not FC4
[10:38] <twb> Cylindric: lemme get you to try something...
[10:38] <soundray> Fleischlego, make sure you make the device on the mounted root of your wrecked installation. If it's mounted on /mnt, that's /mnt/dev/null . Delete it first if necessary.
[10:39] <twb> Cylindric: as root, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in your favourite editor (e.g. nano)
[10:39] <naetrick> Hey guys, when trying to modprobe something, I get an "Invalid module format"
[10:39] <naetrick> And dmesg gives me: "go7007_usb: version magic '2.6.15-ck4 SMP preempt 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-ck4 SMP 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4'
[10:39] <speen> I can see the device I want to disable in hal-device-manager, but it dosnt allow me to disable it
[10:39] <naetrick> Notice no "preempt" in the "should be" string. What does this mean... how should I fix it?
[10:39] <Cylindric> I'm in, twb
[10:39] <twb> Cylindric: look for 'Device "ati"'
[10:39] <Psi-Jack> Can /anyone/ please help?
[10:39] <twb> Cylindric: or 'Device "vesa"'
[10:40] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ok, tried now. Same problem. It's not writeable.
[10:40] <twb> Cylindric: and change it to 'Device "radeon"'
[10:40] <soundray> Fleischlego, sudo ?
[10:40] <Fleischlego> Well, rootshell.
[10:40] <twb> Fleischlego: what are the permissions from within and without the chroot?
[10:40] <anto9us> naetrick, before you start that project you should know there was a gnome2 applet in the repos all the time, it's called lock-keys-applet :)
[10:40] <Cylindric> twb, I have 'Section "Device"' with a line 'Driver "fglrx"',
[10:40] <twb> Fleischlego: ...of that device file.
[10:41] <twb> Cylindric: Oh, you are trying to use the non-free drivers.
[10:41] <twb> Cylindric: is it working?
[10:41] <kyo> ok I downloaded some theme package for gnome ... how do I install it?
[10:41] <Fleischlego> twb: crw-r--r--
[10:41] <Cylindric> twb I tried the ATI ones first, and they're not .  Should I be using others?
[10:41] <naetrick> anto9us: Thanks :). I'll probably code one for myself anyway, because that's what I like to do :)
[10:41] <_jason> kyo: system > prefs > themes, drag and drop the file into the window
[10:41] <twb> Cylindric: the free driver "radeon" should give you 2d and probably 3d acceleration.
[10:42] <twb> Cylindric: the free driver "ati" is much older than "radeon".
[10:42] <Cylindric> twb. do I need to download anything extra, or just change Driver to "radeon"?
[10:42] <twb> Cylindric: change it, save file, restart X server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[10:43] <twb> Cylindric: you can test for 3d accel by running glxinfo|head and looking for "direct rendering: yes"
[10:43] <Cylindric> I'll give it a go.  brb
[10:43] <percent20> hat is the program that is installed that allows you to righclick on an ISO image and do write to disk? in gnome.
[10:43] <bobbyd> twb, how can i reinstall the default dictionary for the spell checker?
[10:43] <Fleischlego> soundray: You really think the /dev/null thing is such a big problem that it is easier to complete reinstall?
[10:43] <guerby> hi, I'm looking for a page explaining how to upgrade from breezy to dapper (experimental machine), any URL?
[10:44] <shinydan> evening all
[10:44] <twb> guerby: just change the sources.list
[10:44] <shinydan> um, help?
[10:44] <kyo> I have pics in my home folder. How would I mass move the jpgs into say hoome/pictures in bash?
[10:44] <twb> shinydan: not until you tell us what to help with!
[10:44] <shinydan> that's fair enough...8)
[10:44] <twb> kyo: mv *.jpg somewhere/else/
[10:44] <soundray> Fleischlego, no. I think that it's a symptom of more serious trouble that will be difficult to fix, especially if you don't know why it happened.
[10:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell kyo about cli
[10:44] <shinydan> installed Breezey recently.  Just tried to use my CD-Rom, and it won't mount.
[10:44] <shinydan> -e
[10:45] <rewt_> think that radeon thing will work for mine?
[10:45] <shinydan> getting "Warning: device /dev/hdc is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[10:45] <shinydan> mount: mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist
[10:45] <shinydan> Error: could not execute pmount
[10:45] <shinydan> "
[10:45] <shinydan> apologies for spam
[10:45] <guerby> twb, you mean replacing all "breezy" by "dapper"?
[10:45] <soundray> Fleischlego, are you on a reasonably fast connection?
[10:45] <_jason> shinydan: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org next time please
[10:45] <rewt_> RADEON XPRESS 200M
[10:45] <twb> guerby: pretty much.
[10:45] <shinydan> ok, will do.
[10:45] <rewt_> AMDTurion 64
[10:45] <Fleischlego> soundray: 130kb/s downstream.
[10:45] <kyo> heh
[10:45] <Artan1s> I isntalled ubuntu, and logged in.  What do I type to gert the GUI to load?
[10:45] <guerby> twd, ok let's go...
[10:46] <_jason> Artan1s: did you do a server install?
[10:46] <Artan1s> _jason I dont think so
[10:46] <twb> guerby: it might be safer to *copy* the entries in sources.list and replace breezy with dapper in the copies, so you still have the old entries.
[10:46] <_jason> Artan1s: what does apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep Installed, return?
[10:46] <twb> Artan1s: did you type "server" at the "boot:" prompt?
[10:46] <soundray> Fleischlego, if you leave it overnight to download packages, the net time investment of reinstalling is probably an hour or so.
[10:46] <guerby> twb, I copied sources.list to sources.list.breezy
[10:46] <Psi-Jack> linux-restricted-modules has an MD5Sum mismatch, ON THE CD. How the heck do I get around such an error? ;/
[10:46] <Artan1s> _jason:let me run up and see real fast
[10:47] <Artan1s> twb: no
[10:47] <EmPiReBiT> algun latino
[10:47] <soundray> Fleischlego, I could be wrong, of course.
[10:47] <twb> Psi-Jack: the CD is scratched.
[10:47] <twb> Psi-Jack: or the CD drive is damaged.
[10:47] <Psi-Jack> twb: It works to install, when I don't have a complex partition arrangement.
[10:47] <twb> Psi-Jack: or the CPU is damaged.
[10:47] <Fleischlego> soundray: Hell, yeah, propably you are right.
[10:48] <shinydan> there, posted to paste now.
[10:48] <kyo> Where do I go to unable unnecessary services?
[10:48] <soundray> Fleischlego, but I really want to go now. If you still want to fix it, I think twb might be your man.
[10:48] <twb> Why can't my oo.org find any fonts?
[10:48] <Psi-Jack> twb: I used that same CD to install on this system I'm using now. But, I had the same error, until I reparitioned to only use /boot and /
[10:48] <twb> I should point out that it is now 9am here.
[10:48] <graft> why would you want to enable unnecessary services?
[10:48] <Fleischlego> soundray: Just one more question... Theoretically I could backup dirs like /etc, /usr, /home etc. and copy them back later, right?
[10:48] <graft> they're unnecessary!
[10:48] <soundray> Fleischlego, you could, but it only makes sense if you stick with breezy.
[10:49] <Fleischlego> soundray: there's quite a lot of configuration work on this system. This is why I ask. :)
[10:49] <tatters> does anyone know what I need to add to repos to get hostsentry?
[10:49] <twb> Fleischlego: it's better to just backup /etc, /var and /home.
[10:49] <Fleischlego> soundray: Well, copy it back, then upgrade to dapper, if you want it that way. :)
[10:49] <graft> Fleischlego: backing up /usr is almost certainly unnecessary
[10:49] <twb> Fleischlego: correctly designed ubuntu/debian packages will not put config data anywhere else.
[10:49] <whiter> how do i remove the ftp's i visited with nautilis
[10:49] <whiter> from the side bar
[10:49] <whiter> erm the left of the screen it shows up under the folders
[10:49] <twb> whiter: drag them away?
[10:50] <`_Zielony> I have a question, how can I check what version of KDe is installed ?
[10:50] <graft> `_Zielony: dpkg -l | grep kdebase
[10:50] <`_Zielony> thx
[10:50] <twb> `_Zielony: dpkg -l kde...
[10:50] <whiter> twb, cant
[10:50] <twb> Fred: beat me.
[10:50] <twb> Uh, graft: beat me.
[10:50] <soundray> Fleischlego, saving etc is a good idea if you put a lot of work into it.  Even if you end up using it as a reference.
[10:50] <IdleOne> how do I use nautilus to burn iso's and what is nautilus? :)
[10:50] <soundray> Fleischlego, I did that when I upgraded from Debian to Warty.
[10:51] <twb> IdleOne: Ctrl+L, burn:/// RET
[10:51] <Mordof> bleh, nvidia's website is down
[10:51] <whiter> its like explorer idleone
[10:51] <shinydan> It looks as though I've managed to confuse my system into ignoring my CD-Rom, as on the pastebin site. Any ideas?
[10:51] <Mordof> is there anotehr way to get the current nvidia drivers?
[10:51] <KatteKra1> Can someone here tell me how to tell ubuntu to open downloaded MSword files with OOo ?
[10:51] <anto9us> IdleOne, right click the iso and select burn
[10:51] <whiter> shinydan can you pastebin "mount"
[10:51] <twb> KatteKra1: right-click on a .doc file, choose properties, third tab is an associate with program dialog.
[10:51] <jebuscian> hey
[10:51] <adam__> holy cow...newb here. Didnt relaize there was a whole IRZC channel for ubuntu users
[10:52] <Mordof> adam__, yup ;)
[10:52] <KatteKra1> twb: thanks - I'll give that a go :)
[10:52] <ompaul> IdleOne, right click on an iso image and select write to disk, it is a program similar in some ways to a file manager but just an order or 20 more powerful :-)-
[10:52] <soundray> Fleischlego, okay?
[10:52] <_jason> adam__: there are several actually
[10:52] <Artan1s> _jason: Installed: 0.80
[10:52] <adam__> question...how many of you have both kde and gnome on your computer and which do you prefer?
[10:52] <Artan1s> twb: was I supposed to?
[10:52] <_jason> Artan1s: hrmm indeed, what does 'startx' do
[10:52] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ok. /var /etc /home then. :)
[10:52] <GigaClon> it starts X
[10:52] <IdleOne> ompaul:  anto9us   and everybody else thanks
[10:52] <Artan1s> _jason: one second
[10:52] <shinydan> whiter: done
[10:53] <tatters> is there a way to find what package is in which repos?
[10:53] <Fleischlego> soundray: reinstall. copy it back, dist-upgrade
[10:53] <GigaClon> adam__, I have both and I prefer GNOME
[10:53] <Mordof> adam__, i have both, i prefer gnome (im running ubuntu distro.. well kde crashed on me so i figured id leave it alone)
[10:53] <jebuscian> !seen ompaul
[10:53] <ubotu> ompaul is currently on #ubuntu-offtopic (5h 33m 5s) #ubuntu-ie (5h 33m 5s) #ubuntu (5h 33m 5s)
[10:53] <soundray> Fleischlego, what were you trying to fix by upgrading the kernel?
[10:53] <anto9us> hi adam__, yes, there are several channels full of ubuntu users, type /msg chanserv list *ubuntu*
[10:53] <Chrisx1> !update
[10:53] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Chrisx1
[10:53] <Chrisx1> !breezy
[10:53] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:54] <Artan1s> _jason: it said it couldnt compile keymap  and gave me a list of warnings and gave me the command prompt again
[10:54] <Fleischlego> soundray: Some weird version conflict module problem
[10:54] <adam__> cool thanks
[10:54] <runaros> I need install help for Ubuntu Linux 5.10, and hope this is the right forum to ask in. My problem is a bit weird: During installation, the computer just freeze when trying to install the Grub boot loader. Has anyone experienced such problems before?
[10:54] <IdleOne> ompaul:  save in folder?
[10:54] <_jason> Artan1s: you are using breezy badger?
[10:54] <KatteKra1> twb: hmmm it seems that it was already set to use OOo - I think my problem might be with Firefox.
[10:54] <ompaul> IdleOne, why - you want to burn it do you not?
[10:55] <Artan1s> _jason: yes
[10:55] <Fleischlego> soundray: My soundcards were not detected anymore and the snd-* modules were not loadable.
[10:55] <IdleOne> ompaul:  yes but it defaults to Home
[10:55] <naetrick> Hey guys, when trying to modprobe something, I get an "Invalid module format"
[10:55] <naetrick> And dmesg gives me: "go7007_usb: version magic '2.6.15-ck4 SMP preempt 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-ck4 SMP 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4'
[10:55] <naetrick> Notice no "preempt" in the "should be" string. What does this mean... how should I fix it?
[10:55] <graft> runaros: odds are your CD download was corrupted
[10:55] <ompaul> IdleOne, in that right click on an *.iso image  then choose "write to disk"
[10:55] <Fleischlego> soundray: A reset of the kernel to it original state via apt did not work
[10:55] <IdleOne> ompaul:  I did
[10:56] <twb> Who invokes me?!
[10:56] <_jason> Artan1s: one second, read some threads on the forums about your problem
[10:56] <soundray> Fleischlego, by then, your system was messed up...
[10:56] <_jason> reading*
[10:56] <Artan1s> _jason: ok, do you have a link to the forums?
[10:56] <ompaul> IdleOne, so your machine does not see the burner, is that what your trying to tell me?
[10:56] <ompaul> IdleOne, at a guess :-0-
[10:56] <Artan1s> _jason: if not im sure i can find it
[10:56] <twb> Anybody know what part of the GNOME session is responsible for making OO.o see fonts and use an industrial-esque theme?
[10:56] <soundray> twb, I did, but that was 15 minutes ago.
[10:56] <_jason> Artan1s: ubuntuforums.org, I searched for 'compile keymap'
[10:56] <Mordof> twb, KatteKra1 did
[10:56] <IdleOne> ompaul:  I guess so
[10:56] <ompaul> IdleOne, at a guess :-) the 0 was a mistake
[10:57] <twb> When I start it from xinit, I get nothing.  Nothing!
[10:57] <Mordof> oh i guess _jason did too
[10:57] <Chrisx1> !univers
[10:57] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Chrisx1
[10:57] <Chrisx1> !universe
[10:57] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:57] <Artan1s> _jason: there were a list of other warnings as well, but they filled the screen
[10:57] <[D-Tail] > good evening all! :-)
[10:57] <Chrisx1> is dapper released yet?
[10:57] <soundray> !dapper
[10:57] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[10:57] <ompaul> IdleOne, >>cat /etc/fstab<< paste the output into paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give me the url
[10:57] <[D-Tail] > I got a little question about the new fglrx-drivers -- I can't get them installed somehow
[10:57] <runaros> graft: I figured so at first. But I had two different Cd's at hand. The first was a cd I'd burned myself (downloading the ISO and burned it), the other was an "official" cd that my girlfriend brought home from the university. Both containing version 5.10, and both presenting me with the exact same problem
[10:57] <IdleOne> ompaul:  ok gimme a sec
[10:58] <[D-Tail] > can anyone help me with that fglrx problem?
[10:58] <zeusmati> need help with the Ubuntu installation
[10:58] <anto9us> !ask
[10:58] <Artan1s> _jason: I appreciate your help, by the way.
[10:58] <zeusmati> !ask
[10:58] <fangorious> how do I get vim to enable syntax highlighting by default for files it knows how to syntax highlight? (rather than ':syntax on' every time I start it)
[10:58] <soundray> Fleischlego, good luck, and get yourself a less disgusting nick :)
[10:58] <[D-Tail] > has anyone already got fglrx 8.22.5 installed?
[10:59] <Fleischlego> soundray: LOL.
[10:59] <Artan1s> _jason: is your ubuntu forums name _jason as well? Im going to put you as my refererr
[10:59] <Fleischlego> soundray: Thanks much for help. :)
[10:59] <djm62> can anyone recommend an accelerated/speed reading package for ubuntu?
[10:59] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , yes
[10:59] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: how did you get it to work?
[10:59] <amphi> fangorious: echo 'syn on' >> ~/.vimrc
[10:59] <fangorious> amphi, thanks
[10:59] <djm62> (read and speed are bad apt-cache searches)
[10:59] <_jason> Artan1s: okay, seems like it was a bug so we are going to try to update the packages on your system first.  Are you a new linux user?
[10:59] <[D-Tail] > I just upgraded my xorg-driver-fglrx package, fglrx-control and fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r)
[10:59] <rewt_> why wont my gdesklets load on startup? i put them in the session and startup tab?
[10:59] <whiter> how do i instlal w32 codecs?
[11:00] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[11:00] <[D-Tail] > and now DRI doesn't work anymore
[11:00] <alec_guiness> what would the command be to mount an ntfs windows share?
[11:00] <zeusmati> !ask
[11:00] <ompaul> !ntfs
[11:00] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:00] <amphi> !w32codecs
[11:00] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:00] <Artan1s> _jason: I had slackware on this same computer all of about a day, there were some errors on the install, so I asked around and was referred to ubuntu and here I am.  So to answer your question, yes I am new.
[11:00] <Operator23> Hello; I've got ubuntu set up on a load of old, crappy compuers in the local boys & girls club. I only had time to install last time I was there, and the net settings aren't up yet
[11:00] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: the apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx command results in an error here...
[11:00] <sskk> I have a 5.04 version of ubuntu running on my disc-less laptop. Is it worth upgrading to 5.10? (By the way: is there a shortcut for upgrading, or do I have to reformat and reinstall?)
[11:00] <[D-Tail] > the rest can be deleted though
[11:00] <IdleOne> ompaul:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8667
[11:00] <Operator23> Anyone have expereience with a zoomx5 modem/router?
[11:00] <Operator23> Things seem OK, but net connections aren't going through
[11:00] <trevorv> Hi, does anyone know where I can lay my hand on a Dapper flight-4 .iso? the links on the wiki dont seem to work
[11:00] <zeusmati> need help with the Ubuntu installation, i had an error during the base system installation
[11:01] <Operator23> I'm helping over the phone
[11:01] <Ng> !upgrade
[11:01] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:01] <Cylindric> well, that didn't work.  I think I'm not going to get it working any time soon :(
[11:01] <Ng> sskk: ^^
[11:01] <Ng> sskk: as to whether or not it's worth it, only you can decide that
[11:01] <GigaClon> sskk, i like breezy
[11:01] <Ng> sskk: nothing huge changes really, it's just all a little better
[11:01] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , what error?
[11:01] <_jason> Artan1s: okay, do the following: 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and then uncomment all of the online repositories, anything that starts with 'deb'.  If cdrom is listed at the top, comment that. (comments jsut start with a #)
[11:02] <GigaClon> except they took the terminal out of the desktop context menu
[11:02] <tatters> is there a way to find what sourcelist hostsentry might be on?
[11:02] <fangorious> is there a way to specify network proxy settings in xchat-gnome? (or konversation)
[11:02] <djm62> Operator23: can you localise the problem? can you ping the router? can you ping google by IP address?
[11:02] <Operator23> Actually, simple question number 1: if eth0 is active and modem/router combo is correctly configured and seen from the computer, why might the internet be inaccessible?
[11:02] <fangorious> GigaClon, install 'nautilus-open-terminal'
[11:02] <Operator23> Router= pinged
[11:02] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: 'found error during processing of 'xorg-driver-fglrx'. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)'
[11:02] <Operator23> can access web configuration macguffin
[11:02] <Artan1s> _jason ok, 1 minute
[11:02] <Operator23> Cannot load webpages
[11:02] <djm62> Operator23: can you ping outside the network?
[11:02] <Operator23> keep in mind, on site there is just a poor college girl who hardly know what linux is, and I'm phoning her.
[11:03] <rewt_> why wont my gdesklets load on startup? i put them in the session and startup tab?
[11:03] <mevjen> i am really new, how do i know if i am running on x386 or 686?
[11:03] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: do you have any clue yet?  ;-)
[11:03] <fangorious> hrm, have you tried posting in the discussion thread for the howto I linked? mlonker (the author of the HOWTO) keeps current in that thread, so he's likely to see it and respond
[11:03] <Operator23> Saints my grammar's gone to hell. Anyway, no idea, doesn't seem that way - let me get back in phone contact
[11:03] <[D-Tail] > ah
[11:03] <rewt_> mev...what processor u got?
[11:03] <ompaul> IdleOne, have you got a blank CD in that drive?
[11:03] <[D-Tail] > thanks, I'll try that...
[11:03] <IdleOne> ompaul:  yes
[11:03] <djm62> Operator23: ping 66.249.93.99 should work
[11:03] <mevjen> amd athlon xp
[11:04] <Operator23> dandy
[11:04] <djm62> Operator23: or the modem part of modem/router's not working
[11:04] <tatters> id check the box has an ip allocated first maybe first?
[11:04] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , are you tring to install an old copy of the Ati binary, or the one packaged by ubuntu?
[11:04] <mevjen> rewt_: amd athlon xp
[11:04] <rewt_> xp what?
[11:04] <mevjen> 2700
[11:04] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: what do you mean with 'old copy'?
[11:05] <[D-Tail] > I simply downloaded the newest packages and thought of installing them over the old ones...
[11:05] <[D-Tail] > which apparently didn't work
[11:05] <GigaClon> mevjen, what does uname -r say when you type it into a terminal
[11:05] <ompaul> IdleOne, do this On the menu there is an option Computer - choose this, there will be a dialog box what does it say about the CD rom below it
[11:05] <zeusmati> can anybody help me?
[11:05] <Artan1s> _jason I commented the CDROM and uncommented all the deb, when I tried to Write out it said access denied
[11:05] <mevjen> ok its 386
[11:05] <rewt_> yes 386
[11:05] <tatters> is there a way to find what sourcelist /repos a package might be on?
[11:05] <ompaul> IdleOne, places / computer that is
[11:05] <_jason> Artan1s: heh sorry, I should have asked you to do 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:06] <djm62> Operator23: if that works, try ping www.google.com, if that fails, try to reconfigure the modem bit
[11:06] <mevjen> i am confused though my nvidia graphics drivers arent giving me very high screen res
[11:06] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , you said you're trying to remove xorg-driver-fglrx, so I was wondering if it's the ubuntu one, or one created from installing an older revision of the Ati binary driver
[11:06] <Artan1s> _jason no problem. Be right back
[11:06] <GigaClon> is there a quick and easy guide to setting up fluxbox from ubuntu
[11:06] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: I don't know for sure - how do I check?
[11:07] <rewt_> in x.conf there should be something about resolutions
[11:07] <IdleOne> ompaul:  icon for is CD-ROM Drive
[11:07] <albacker> hey guys how should i edit /etc/fstab lines so the user can acces /media/hda1 [windows partition]   without getting permision denied ?
[11:07] <Operator23> Woop
[11:07] <rewt_> GigaClon if you find one, let me know ;)
[11:07] <ompaul> IdleOne, exactly what is written below it
[11:07] <ompaul> IdleOne, the precise text
[11:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell albacker about mountwindows
[11:07] <Chris_Tucker> i just added an ISA nic to my system, but its not showing up, only my PCI one... whats wrong?
[11:07] <IdleOne> ompaul:  CD-ROM DRive
[11:07] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , is this your first attempt at installing the binary driver from Ati? (what version are you uninstalling 'dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx')
[11:07] <Operator23> Sory I poped offfff
[11:07] <sorush20> hi guys play back is bad and slow I have enabled dma for all my device.. hardware is fast.. but I think my video overlay is not working well any on think they could help out.. ?
[11:07] <sorush20> (22:05:00) sorush20: The problem is because I have a graphics chip that apparently dosen't have full dri supported..
[11:07] <sorush20> (22:05:18) sorush20: I have looked at the xorg config and logs but no sue really ..
[11:07] <sorush20> (22:05:28) sorush20: anyone want to trouble shoot with me?
[11:07] <_jason> albacker: see the table towards the middle of that link
[11:07] <IdleOne> ompaul:  CD-ROM Drive
[11:07] <ompaul> IdleOne, it does not support that drive burning
[11:08] <GigaClon> if you google for "fluxbox guide" you get a gentoo guide
[11:08] <Operator23> Anyway, disaster delayed - they're shutting things down until Thrusday, when i can go on-site to set things up.
[11:08] <vanguardist> hello. I just upgraded to dapper
[11:08] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: [ri  xorg-driver-fg 8.22.5-1] 
[11:08] <Operator23> So, thankfully, nothing to worry about.
[11:08] <vanguardist> what's the package I need for mp3 gstreamer playback?
[11:08] <albacker> _jason, ok, the do already outomount, only that i have to su first.
[11:08] <[D-Tail] > 'ri' as in, badly installed, I figure ;-)
[11:08] <Artan1s> _jason: done
[11:08] <IdleOne> ompaul:  so I cant burn cd's then is what your telling me
[11:08] <vanguardist> totem/rythmbox are not working
[11:08] <Operator23> I'd worry about the lab being closed if the computers had worked previous to this.
[11:08] <_jason> albacker: right, see the table in the link.  it explains permissions
[11:08] <rewt_> totem = the suck
[11:08] <rewt_> always crashes me
[11:08] <ompaul> IdleOne, mine says CD-RW Drive, and yes that is what I am telling you about that drive, which I find strange
[11:08] <vanguardist> rewt_: yeah true, but I would like it to work
[11:08] <_jason> Artan1s: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:08] <vanguardist> for consistency's sake
[11:09] <albacker> _jason, k, thanks.
[11:09] <Operator23> Anyway, I'm pretty sure my setup instructions got garbled over the phone, so I'll fix things up quick in person.
[11:09] <vanguardist> gstreamer-mad is not working it seems
[11:09] <IdleOne> ompaul: is it possible i need cetain drivers for it?
[11:09] <ompaul> IdleOne, does the drive have any numbers printed on the outside
[11:09] <Chris_Tucker> i just added an ISA nic to my system, but its not showing up, only my PCI one... whats wrong?
[11:09] <mevjen> anyone know how i can get my full screen res?
[11:09] <Operator23> I'm just glad this place exists so I can burst in here with everything in flames and cry for help.
[11:09] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone here figured out a way to play m4p's the file u get from the itunes store?
[11:09] <Operator23> Thanks.
[11:09] <IdleOne> ompaul:  nope
[11:09] <Operator23> Out.
[11:09] <sorush20> her ei sthe best info I have been able to get ... http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart3.shtml, for the chips
[11:09] <djm62> pianoboy3333: you need to crack the DRM, I think
[11:10] <ompaul> IdleOne, does it say Compact Disk Rewritable
[11:10] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , if you're logged into that machine and X is running, maybe that's preventing you from uninstalling it
[11:10] <ompaul> IdleOne, or writeable
[11:10] <pianoboy3333> djm62, and how?
[11:10] <[D-Tail] > ok - so I should shut down X first?
[11:10] <IdleOne> ompaul:  on the CD?
[11:10] <[D-Tail] > what 'driver' should I specify in my xorg.conf afterwards?
[11:10] <ompaul> IdleOne, on the drive
[11:10] <[D-Tail] > 'ati' or so?
[11:10] <djm62> pianoboy3333: after which, gstreamer-faad (or something faad) is the right widget
[11:10] <IdleOne> ompaul:  no it doesnt
[11:10] <fangorious> pianoboy3333, check out jHymn to remove the encryption, or use PyMusique to buy (doesn't encrypt the file)
[11:10] <Chris_Tucker> i just added an ISA nic to my system, but its not showing up, only my PCI one... whats wrong?
[11:11] <rewt_> why wont my gdesklets load on startup? i put them in the session and startup tab?
[11:11] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: and in a terminal, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' is just enough to stop X?
[11:11] <djm62> fangorious: that was what I was trying to dredge from me neurons :)
[11:11] <[D-Tail] > or does  a command 'stopx' exists (much like startx)?
[11:11] <rewt_> ctrl alt backspace
[11:11] <rewt_> will kill x
[11:11] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , the gdm stop should do it
[11:11] <mevjen> how do i get back into gnome after pressing ctrl+alt+bckspc
[11:11] <djm62> [D-Tail] : /etc/init.d/gdm stop (or even restart) is the way to do it
[11:11] <rewt_> start x
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, pianoboy3333: PyMusique has been replaced by SharpMusique (according to their web site).
[11:12] <mevjen> ok thx
[11:12] <ompaul> IdleOne, then I suggest it is not a *normal* drive, most of them tell you speed or something on the outside
[11:12] <rewt_> yep
[11:12] <[D-Tail] > ok... rewt_: I dislike to explicitly kill programs ;-)
[11:12] <ompaul> IdleOne, just one point this is a PC
[11:12] <pianoboy3333> tonyyarusso: but what will get the encryption off?
[11:12] <rewt_> hehe
[11:12] <fangorious> tonyyarusso, cool
[11:12] <[D-Tail] > fangorious: then I should apt-get remove the remaining packages... and then what?
[11:12] <Artan1s> _jason: damn, I need to be connected to the internet dont I?
[11:12] <pianoboy3333> how do u start xubuntu-desktop?
[11:12] <IdleOne> ompaul: this drive came from a Dell PC and I have used on the Dell to burn iso's
[11:12] <sskk> what is a command to identify what version of ubuntu I'm currently on?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> pianoboy3333: Well maybe SM doesn't encrypt either, I'm not sure.
[11:12] <fangorious> pianoboy3333, i don't think it decrypts, but you can check. I think it just allows you to buy them without encryption
[11:13] <hatake_kakashi> sskk: cat /proc/version
[11:13] <_jason> Artan1s: hrmm yeah, is that not possible?
[11:13] <sskk> thanks
[11:13] <IdleOne> ompaul:  yes this is a pc Im on
[11:13] <Artan1s> _jason: I cant connect to the internet with that computer but...
[11:13] <hatake_kakashi> sskk: np
[11:13] <fangorious> [D-Tail] , after you've removed them, you can try rebuilding and reinstalling them
[11:13] <learner_learner> !mountwindows
[11:13] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:13] <[D-Tail] > well... gonna try reinstalling them now
[11:13] <jhons2> Hi all- can anyone take a installation question>
[11:13] <ompaul> IdleOne, okay do me a favour - check that it is not set cable select, it should be set master or slave to make sure there are no issues in that space
[11:13] <[D-Tail] > thanks in advance and you'll see me here back again ;-)
[11:13] <Artan1s> _jason: an error did occur during install at about 75% of putting the packages in and im thinking there was a problem with the partition because it said it was only 2.1 gb when my HDD is 20gb
[11:13] <Fleischlego> Ok, guys. I'm out again. Thanks for help, I'm off crashing my head into a wall or something. :)
[11:13] <pianoboy3333> What do you do to use xubuntu?
[11:14] <pianoboy3333> !xfce
[11:14] <ubotu> xfce is, like, totally, a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[11:14] <IdleOne> ompaul:  I believe it set cable select
[11:14] <rewt_> how exactly do you type directly to someone?
[11:14] <ompaul> IdleOne, I accuse that setting of causing you pain
[11:14] <_jason> Artan1s: that's probably why, I think you should format and try again
[11:14] <IdleOne> ompaul:  Ill change it to master and be back to let you know how it turns out :)
[11:14] <fangorious> rewt_, you can use '/msg nickname' if you don't want it displayed in the channel
[11:15] <ompaul> IdleOne, well to test you just right click on the iso and away you go
[11:15] <Artan1s> _jason: ok. Im going to do it manually this time.  Thanks for the help, Ill let you know how it went
[11:15] <IdleOne> ompaul:  yup :)
[11:15] <_jason> Artan1s: good luck
[11:15] <Artan1s> _jason: thanks
[11:15] <jhons2> Can you choose which harddrive you want to install to in the installer?
[11:15] <ompaul> IdleOne, enjoy c u soon
[11:15] <rewt_> Anyone got any idea about my application start up?
[11:15] <fangorious> jhons2, yes
[11:16] <pianoboy3333> How do u use xfce in ubuntu? I have xubuntu-desktop
[11:16] <Mauricio> (nick
[11:16] <ompaul> you know when you figure out the stuff that gets fixed over IRC sometimes you just gotta be amazed
[11:16] <fangorious> pianoboy3333, from the login screen, try the sessions button
[11:16] <jhons2> ok because I was installing Kubuntu and I dont think it ever did
[11:16] <rewt_>  my gdesklets wont load on startup? i put them in session and startup tab? marked # 50?
[11:16] <amonkey> where can i get advice about ffmpeg? it won't accept a ogm as input, although mplayer uses ffmpeg to play ogms.
[11:16] <rewt_> arg its making meh mad
[11:16] <pianoboy3333> ok
[11:17] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, in a terminal do "sudo update alternatives all"
[11:17] <ompaul> !heh
[11:17] <ubotu> Many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work.  "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such.  Or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: Just have them running when you log out next time.
[11:17] <rewt_> i do
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: Save session?
[11:17] <jhons2> Can you choose which harddrive you want to install to in the installer fo Kubuntu? ( I forgot to say i was installing Kubuntu)
[11:18] <thomas> When I press reply in evolution my signature is the the very buttom, under the mail I'm replying. How do I get it to be above the mail I'm replying?
[11:18] <bliss> helloall
[11:18] <_jason> ompaul: aww 404
[11:18] <ompaul> _jason, I meant to do heh!
[11:18] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: yes, but imo 5.04 (Hoary) seems a little buggy, so physically unplug either the power cable or the data cable off the other hard drives before approaching installation and you should be set
[11:18] <_jason> ompaul: heh
[11:18] <ompaul> so we start with one error the factiod has been fixed
[11:19] <bliss> i have ssh conection on port 22 localhost if I try on my machine at home no problem but from outside cannot connect  please help
[11:19] <jhons2> hatake_kakashi do i need to worry about that with 5.10?
[11:19] <Rawplayer> FA
[11:20] <anTiX> why don't I have java-package? I have multiverse..
[11:20] <rehpotsirhc> bliss, are you behind a router?
[11:20] <ompaul> Rawplayer, ahh come on, how do we manage to maintain a G rating
[11:20] <fangorious> what rehpotsirhc said
[11:20] <Rawplayer> ;p
[11:20] <bliss> yes but I have opened port 22 ssh on router
[11:21] <rehpotsirhc> did you try opening another port and seeing if you could connect?
[11:21] <thomas> anyone proficient in evolution?
[11:21] <fangorious> bliss, do you have more than one machine behind the router?
[11:21] <ompaul> thomas, ask a specific question
[11:21] <thomas> When I press reply in evolution my signature is the very buttom, under the mail I'm replying. How do I get it to be above the mail I'm replying?
[11:21] <bliss> no only one
[11:21] <djm62> thomas: in evolution, aye, but not with that question
[11:21] <fangorious> thomas, well I haven't quite developed my third eye yet, but it's coming along nicely
[11:22] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: not sure, give it a try, if at boot it does not seem to work, then you can try my method
[11:22] <sizzam> anyone know of a good guide for a new linux user to learn about different system logs to keep an eye on, to watch for intrusion attempts, app errors, etc?
[11:22] <fangorious> bliss, try it on some random port, like 16022
[11:22] <ompaul> thomas, (A) your defying convention (B) recompile the software to do what you want - don't call it evoltuion though :)  and I am not an expert
[11:22] <fangorious> bliss, maybe your ISP blocks incoming traffic on port 22
[11:22] <larsemil> i have a really weird problem. just recently installed ubuntu and was really happy with the look. so i restarted my computer and now i have the ugly edubuntu... how change back?
[11:23] <djm62> sizzam: have a look through the log files... if you do it read-only you can't do any harm
[11:23] <thomas> ompaul, ok I'm new to this...
[11:23] <sizzam> djm62, where do i find the log files
[11:23] <hatake_kakashi> larsemil: its probably just the themes, etc
[11:23] <djm62> sizzam: /var/log/ is a good start
[11:24] <bliss> I thibk its a difference between localhost and my ip address which is a reverese dns to my domain name
[11:24] <whiter> hm
[11:24] <ompaul> thomas, - the thing is that in email we all put sigs at the bottom of the mail then they get removed if the client is clever at the far end which is good and so the world rotates
[11:24] <whiter> i downloaded the w32 codecs
[11:24] <whiter> but i still cant play this movie
[11:24] <whiter> through firefox, im trying to play an <embed src> thing
[11:24] <pianoboy3333> xfce is weird........'
[11:24] <sizzam> djm62, thanks, are you familiar with the dmesg command? if so, what logs does that check
[11:24] <bliss> localhost and ip address are different when trying to connect from outside?
[11:24] <jhons2> hatake_kakashi: would there be any risk in formatting my windows drive?
[11:24] <larsemil> hatake_kakashi, well my loginscreen is also edubuntu..
[11:25] <ogra> larsemil, uninstall edubuntu-artwork ... why did you install it if you dont like it ?
[11:25] <larsemil> ogra,  i did not...
[11:25] <djm62> sizzam: always a good reference, man dmesg ;)
[11:25] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: are you planning to make it a linux only install or dualboot?
[11:25] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, no it is closer to classic X
[11:26] <ogra> larsemil, packages dont install themselves out of the blue ...
[11:26] <jhons2> hatake_kakashi: dual boo, but i have two hard drives
[11:26] <thomas> ompaul, Ok I'm not sure if I get the arguement. Why dont you want the signature right after what you have written in a mail?
[11:26] <djm62> sizzam: not meant as a rebuff.  I don't remember offhand, and there's no more point in me looking it up than you doing it
[11:26] <pianoboy3333> ompaul: what is? xubuntu-desktop?
[11:26] <ogra> larsemil, you either installed edubuntu-desktop or edubuntu-artwork ... (the first depends on the latter)
[11:26] <larsemil> ogra well i do know that. i installed ubuntu, installed atidrivers, rebooted, and baaam! there was edubuntu
[11:26] <ompaul> thomas, when you send me a reply I know my address / phone number / slogan / web site
[11:26] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, yeap
[11:27] <bliss> ok thanks for feedback I will have to think about it  maybe when not so hectic
[11:27] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: it shouldn't really affect it imo, but there might be a chance that it will.. I mean ubuntu/kubuntu not booting up. With dualboot it should not affect it
[11:27] <ompaul> thomas, does that make sense
[11:27] <ogra> larsemil, the edubuntu-artwork package containsd the tehems, just uninstall it ...
[11:27] <ogra> *themes
[11:27] <fangorious> localhost is different from your public (and even your private) IP address
[11:27] <fangorious> bliss
[11:28] <kbrooks> fangorious, localhost resolves to 127.0.0.1
[11:28] <bliss> yep fangorious
[11:28] <thomas> ompaul, Yes but you don't know mine! I mean I want to write the mail finish it off with my signature, and underneath I want the mail history
[11:28] <kbrooks> which, well, should be dself explanatory
[11:28] <pianoboy3333> fangorious: isn't localhost your computer only?
[11:28] <fangorious> kbrooks, yes, it sounded like bliss was asking if that was the case, and i forgot to preced the comment with his nick
[11:28] <ompaul> thomas, when you send your first I see it do I not - when I hit reply it cuts it off
[11:28] <jhons2> hatake_kakashi: so i just need to unplug my primary(windows) drive?
[11:29] <bliss> i am lost who is talking to who
[11:29] <fangorious> bliss, does your routing have a log for incoming requests?
[11:29] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: that's only if it does not work
[11:29] <bliss> I am not sure I will look
[11:29] <ompaul> thomas, also check out how your mail client follows a thread, and now your talking about something called top posting which is flame war material - go to #ubuntu-offtopic for a discussion on that
[11:29] <fangorious> bliss, I was responding to you, but forgot to but your name at the front of my comment, so a couple people responded to me as if i was asking a question
[11:29] <thomas> ompaul, but the sign is under what you have written.
[11:30] <bliss> its a ag241 linksys 4 port switch
[11:30] <ompaul> thomas, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:30] <thomas> ompaul, ok thanks
[11:31] <jhons2> hatake_kakashi: ok as long as i will have a HD choice during the installation of Kubuntu 5.10  I tried installing it but it went into installation, and i rebooted and windows had an error and i had to rollback
[11:31] <IdleOne> ompaul:  changing drive from cable select to master didnt work :|
[11:31] <fangorious> bliss, that doesn't mean anything to me. you'll have to either read the product documentation or the admin tool (web page?)
[11:31] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: hopefully your bootloader is grub, and I don't see how that would have a major affect on dualbooting part
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> Would it be possible to install something and run processes from an ftp server I have access too?  I have some webspace through my ISP, and I was pondering if it's possible to say have Gaim running on it to do buddy pounces even if my computer's off.  Any idea?
[11:32] <jhons2> hatake_kakashi: i thought that grub was included in the kubuntu install
[11:33] <fangorious> tonyyarusso, if their ftp server has a remote code execution exploit (like a buffer overflow or something). but that could result in criminal charges
[11:33] <ompaul> IdleOne, I have nothing further for you on that - pity really, I wonder if the burning was done by a software drive and the drive is not atapi
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: That would not be good.  Need a clean criminal record to cross the border and stuff!
[11:33] <IdleOne> ompaul:  thanks for trying :)
[11:34] <sizzam> is there a log i can check for failed attempts to ssh into my box?
[11:34] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: it is, but it also has lilo bootloader as a fallback installation for bootloader. Some people can get lilo bootloader to work with windows, other's can't, your mileage may vary
[11:34] <amphi> sorush20: what card is it?
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: You can have things that are executable for web sites though, like cgi scripts, so what's different about this?
[11:34] <fangorious> sizzam, /var/log/daemon.log comes to mind
[11:34] <IdleOne> ompaul:  I guess Ill just have to install drive onto my windows pc and burn from there ...pity really I was hoping to make a full jump to linux
[11:35] <amphi> sorush20: n/m, I looked at scrollback
[11:35] <fangorious> sizzam, also /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[11:35] <fangorious> tonyyarusso, I'm assuming your ISP doesn't offer an FTP server for you to run arbitraty programs on their server through
[11:35] <jhons2> hatake_kakashi: thanks for your help
[11:35] <sizzam> thanx
[11:35] <hatake_kakashi> jhons2: np
[11:36] <fangorious> tonyyarusso, if your ISP doesn't mind you running gaim on their servers, you can just ask them. If they do mind, subversive attempts to do saw would be trespassing on their network
[11:36] <bliss> no logs found only thing being blocked is under heading block WAN requests and a box is checked  which says block anonymous internet requests
[11:37] <ompaul> IdleOne, you can - but not with that drive - be aware when you go to buy new hardware for your linux box that it should be supported - check on mailing lists and google first
[11:37] <fangorious> bliss, did you try forwarding a different port on your router to port 22 on the private machine?
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: Okay, that stuff all makes sense.  What I don't know at this point though is how something like that would be different from scripts for a web site.  Just in purpose, or is there something different about how they need to be run?
[11:37] <IdleOne> ompaul:  will do
[11:37] <aleitner> can dapper (based on dapper flight 3) be installed and then run from a usb hdd/memstick?
[11:38] <mark__> hey, I'm having some major problems with my other monitor :\. I've managed to get both of them to work in dual mode (xinema or something), but the second one is all screwd up etc
[11:38] <mark__> and I have no idea how to fix it
[11:38] <mark__> i can paste my xorg.conf somehwere if you want
[11:38] <ompaul> IdleOne, to be honest most out of the box burners work - something very strange there
[11:38] <fangorious> tonyyarusso, tehnically it's all just code. but you have to adhere to the terms of service
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: Ah.  So it's an agreement matter, rather than a technical one?
[11:38] <IdleOne> ompaul:  can the fact that its from Dell have something to do with it?
[11:39] <IdleOne> ompaul:  drive is only 2 years old
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> aleitner: Don't know why not, as long as you can boot to that through the bios and/or bootloader.
[11:39] <richie_> hi
[11:39] <ompaul> IdleOne, the other drive on that cable was not set to CS or master was it?
[11:40] <aleitner> tonyyarusso: great. then i will give it a try...
[11:40] <IdleOne> ompaul:  there is no other drive
[11:40] <ompaul> IdleOne, is the hard drive on CS?
[11:40] <IdleOne> hmmm
[11:40] <bliss> fangorious what do you mean by a different port
[11:40] <ompaul> stanger things have happened
[11:40] <IdleOne> ompaul:  guess Ill have to look to make sure
[11:40] <leE_> don't suppose there's anyone around that's feeling charitable with help for package management traumas? :)
[11:40] <richie_> hi
[11:41] <ompaul> !ask
[11:41] <richie_> dfsadfsafsdfsadfsadfsdsdfdfasf
[11:41] <hatake_kakashi> if both hard disks are on CS and are on the same cable, it should not matter
[11:41] <IdleOne> !anyone
[11:41] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:41] <ompaul> !+ask
[11:41] <ubotu> ask is, like, totally, just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[11:41] <E> I love ubuntu, and I would want to install it in my office, but use the full disc, not a partition, and now I need to recover some office files not the xp. What can I do?
[11:41] <ompaul> richie_, no don't go there
[11:41] <X-GueSt> ppl
[11:41] <Foodcoman> Google fatique, has anyone worked with Hardware RAID 0 SCSI and got grub to work and load the kernel?  Compaq Proliant DL380 in this case?
[11:41] <X-GueSt> can someone get me any help with Xgl ?
[11:41] <fangorious> bliss, on your router you have port 22 on the WAN side forwarding to port 22 on some private IP address (the IP of your machine running sshd)
[11:41] <X-GueSt> plz? :)
[11:41] <fangorious> X-GueSt, there's a howto in the dapper forum on ubuntuforums.org
[11:41] <mark__> can someone tell me the non-GUI command to configure xfgl
[11:42] <richie_> dont go where
[11:42] <fangorious> X-GueSt, I don't think it is supported in breezy
[11:42] <X-GueSt> fangorious, but it seems that the file of Xgl to download
[11:42] <X-GueSt> the link is broken
[11:42] <X-GueSt> im using dapper
[11:42] <X-GueSt> :p
[11:42] <richie_> im trying to change the colour of me fonts and name
[11:43] <X-GueSt> fangorious, btw do I realy hav to do so many sh*t to get it working ? :|
[11:43] <fangorious> bliss, try forwarding port 16022 on the router's WAN interface to your machine (in case your ISP blocks incoming traffic on port 22)
[11:43] <fangorious> X-GueSt, no idea, I'm running breezy so haven't looked at the howto beyond that it's linked from the dapper forum
[11:43] <amphi> X-GueSt: the price of the bleeding edge
[11:44] <E> Some body can help????
[11:44] <E> I installed ubuntu  in my pc office, but use the full disc partition, not a portion, and now I need to recover some office files not the xp. What can I do?
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> E: You saying you overwrote the entire disk and now you want something that was on it?
[11:45] <fangorious> E: if you deleted your windows partition i don't think it's recoverble without paying a data recovery service
[11:45] <Xenguy> E: run for you backups =)
[11:45] <mindamp> no matter which ftp server i install... it always hangs on the directory listing...
[11:45] <mindamp> anyone seen this before?
[11:45] <Xenguy> *your
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> E: Hopefully you thought to make them.
[11:45] <ribaldjester> I am having trouble compiling a kernel module - I keep getting GCC errors
[11:45] <ribaldjester> like thus: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:45] <bliss> i have two sections on my router one is called single port forwarding the other option is called port range forwarding this is where sssh is plaved from 22 to 22
[11:45] <Xenguy> mindamp: vsftpd ?
[11:45] <Ng> ribaldjester: install the gcc-3.4 package
[11:45] <mindamp> Xenguy... i have it installed now...
[11:46] <mindamp> it hangs on directory listing as well
[11:46] <mindamp> and proftpd
[11:46] <E> I have a backup but with not all files
[11:46] <fangorious> E: and just to get it out of the way, just in case, it's not a fault of the Ubuntu installer. that's just what happens when a partition is deleted and overwritten
[11:46] <mindamp> ribaldjester... you need to install gcc
[11:46] <Xenguy> mindamp: keep checking your configuration I guess <shrug>
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: Thanks for making that point.
[11:46] <ribaldjester> Ng - how exactly? I though it was already installed?
[11:47] <mindamp> whos Ng...
[11:47] <amphi> E: you might be able to find bits and pieces with something like biew /dev/hda
[11:47] <Ng> ribaldjester: it's not installed by default. you can use synaptic (in the System->Administration menu) or apt-get in a terminal
[11:47] <mindamp> apt-get install gcc
[11:47] <ribaldjester> ok - I'll try that again..thanks
[11:47] <Ng> mindamp: that will install gcc 4
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> E: Yeah, either you need to shell out some dough or learn to live without, and learn from the experience to make more complete backups or not overwrite entire disks.
[11:47] <mindamp> no one has had this ftp daemon issue?
[11:47] <mindamp> cuase its happend on EVERY server i have setup with Ubuntu..
[11:47] <Xenguy> ribaldjester: you may need to install gcc-3.4
[11:47] <mindamp> 20+
[11:47] <mindamp> and its a major issue for me...
[11:47] <Stormx2> !dkpg
[11:47] <ubotu> Stormx2: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:47] <Stormx2> !xorg
[11:47] <ubotu> hmm... xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:48] <ribaldjester> hrmmm apt-get install sez - gcc is already the newest version.
[11:48] <Ng> ribaldjester: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[11:48] <ribaldjester> lemme try synaptic
[11:48] <sorush20> amphi: sorry I'm back...
[11:48] <fangorious> mindamp, i haven't managed an ftp server in about 4 years, and it was pretty much a default rollout on a single machine
[11:48] <Ng> the gcc package is 4.0, but you need 3.4 to compile kernel modules
[11:48] <sorush20> here is my log look at line 160, don't I need this module for 3d?
[11:48] <Ng> everything else in ubuntu afaik is compiled with 4.0, but the kernel always needs older versions
[11:48] <Xenguy> ribaldjester: you may need to install gcc-3.4
[11:48] <ribaldjester> ah now I get Package gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:48] <ribaldjester> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:48] <ribaldjester> is only available from another source
[11:48] <ribaldjester> E: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate
[11:48] <ribaldjester> do I need to update my apt-get repositories?
[11:48] <Ng> quite possibly
[11:49] <fangorious> ribaldjester, couldn't hurt
[11:49] <E> I know that, now
[11:49] <Xenguy> !tell ribaldjester about repos
[11:49] <Ng> although that suggests your apt sources might be broken
[11:49] <Stormx2> ribaldjester: what do you mean, update?
[11:49] <E> I put the disc as slave and I could check it with easy recovery and see some files but it will delay 89 hours and incressing to check all the disc, exist other software to do that?
[11:49] <IdleOne> !tell ribaldjester  about pastebin
[11:49] <ribaldjester> thanks...reading
[11:50] <mindamp> any REAL ubuntu folk in here?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please so we can figure out what is wrong '
[11:50] <mindamp> cause this is a serious issue...
[11:50] <_jason> mindamp: what is that supposed to mean
[11:50] <delaney> mindamp, define real?
[11:50] <bliss> fangorious did you see my reply
[11:50] <richie_> dfasd
[11:50] <fangorious> bliss, missed it, let me check
[11:50] <mindamp> uhmm... REAL = someone who knows what im talking about when it comes to the FTP daemon listing lag..
[11:50] <delaney> whats up with richie
[11:51] <gnomefreak> mindamp: ask your question if someone knows they will answer you
[11:51] <Ng> mindamp: if you have found a bug, please report it to the ubuntu bug tracker at launchpad.net/malone/
[11:51] <tatters> oh the old ftp listing thing
[11:51] <E> ribaldjester:	what is gcc package?
[11:51] <Psi-Jack> mindamp: Ego is not useful here. Ask your question and see if you get help.
[11:51] <Ng> mindamp: mostly people in here are not ubuntu developers
[11:51] <mindamp> so... flaming?
[11:51] <mindamp> hrm
[11:51] <Psi-Jack> mindamp: YOu started the flame, yourself, like a jerk. :p
[11:51] <mindamp> oh right
[11:51] <vanguardist> gah, the gst plugin for mp3 is not working. any ideas?
[11:51] <fangorious> bliss, so you have the port range 22-22 forwarded to the private ip of your server
[11:51] <Ng> we're, by and large, just volunteers here to help our fellow ubuntu users :)
[11:52] <mindamp> so no one here has setup an FTP server on a ubuntu box yet?
[11:52] <delaney> mindamp,  i have.
[11:52] <hatake_kakashi> mindamp: not I
[11:52] <Psi-Jack> mindamp: Ask a specific question related to the problem you are having.
[11:52] <mindamp> delaney... what daemon?
[11:52] <mindamp> any problems?
[11:52] <breezy> cool
[11:52] <tatters> is there a way to find what sourcelist hostsentry might be on?
[11:52] <delaney> proftpd
[11:52] <bliss> yes its 193.168.1.64
[11:52] <delaney> mindamp,  it was easy as pie i followed the instructions i got from google
[11:52] <mindamp> delaney.. and you didn't have ANY issues with listings?
[11:52] <delaney> mindamp,  none not a one
[11:53] <gnomefreak> tatters: apt-cache policy hostsentry
[11:53] <delaney> mindamp,  only problem i had was my dynamic ip
[11:53] <mindamp> what FTP client do you use?
[11:53] <ribaldjester> ok my sources.list is up at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8669
[11:53] <Ng> delaney: packages.ubuntu.com will let you search all of the official repositories
[11:53] <delaney> mindamp,  ive had people use filezilla firefox explorer etc
[11:53] <Ng> I don't see hostsentry though
[11:53] <catchphrase> whats the difference between qparted and gparted?
[11:53] <Ng> portsentry, but no hostsentry
[11:53] <delaney> Ng,  no no friend. thank you but i was responding to mindamps question
[11:53] <Psi-Jack> mindamp: What exactly IS your problem?
[11:53] <mike-e> how do i reconfigure the way ubuntu reads time from my machine
[11:53] <Ng> catchphrase: one is for KDE, the other for Gnome
[11:53] <nowotny> hello... I merged the free space(~5 Gb) I had on my disk with the main linux partition(~3 Gb) but df doesn't show that the partition got bigger... it's like it was before but gparted shows that the partition has 8 Gb... anyone knows what's going on...? :/
[11:53] <catchphrase> Ng, ah thanks.
[11:53] <Ng> delaney: oh sorry ;)
[11:53] <InnerF|RE> ...
[11:53] <delaney> Ng,  no worries mate. i appreciate that you took the time to help regardless thank you :)
[11:54] <tombs> hi all
[11:54] <tatters> I using webmin and portsentry and hostsentry and logcheck are all in there but I cannot find hostsentry anywhere
[11:54] <Ng> nowotny: you probably need to resize the ext filesystem on the partition too
[11:54] <bliss> fangrious yes its 193.168.1.64
[11:55] <nowotny> Ng: how would I do that...? :/
[11:55] <mike-e> how do i reconfigure the way ubuntu reads time from my machine
[11:55] <Ng> nowotny: check "man resize2fs"
[11:55] <Ng> nowotny: please read that carefully, but I'm pretty sure you can just run it on the partition in question and it will resize it to fit the new partition size
[11:55] <Ng> nowotny: it's the kind of operation that will eat all your data if it fails ;)
[11:55] <avinoam> Anyone have some experience with wine?
[11:55] <fangorious> bliss, ok, try setting up a single port forward from por 16022 on the router's WAN interface to port 22 on 193.168.1.64
[11:55] <jhons2> Is it ok if I swap my slave with my primary and install linux to the slave? Could i just change the boot order of the hard drives in the bios to select which OS i want?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[11:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:55] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[11:55] <Xenguy> avinoam: there's also #winehq
[11:56] <nowotny> Ng: thanks... that's really reaffirming... :)
[11:56] <Psi-Jack> delaney: *shrugs* He wouldn't ever specify his problem. Oh well. :)
[11:56] <mark__> gnomefreak, are you any good when it comes to configuring your xorg.conf for two monitors?
[11:56] <E> Norton have unformat or something like it, has ubuntu some utility in that way?
[11:56] <breezy> how do i get rid of the grub loader??
[11:56] <fangorious> bliss, then when you try to ssh to your server, use '-p 16022'
[11:56] <Ng> nowotny: anything that fundementally rewrites a large section of a filesystem is seriously prone to not being able to recover gracefully from a failure, unfortunately ;)
[11:56] <sorush20> guys Line 330 in the log how can I change it to enabled. ?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> mark__: i only use one moniter (cant think of a reason for a second)
[11:56] <delaney> Psi-Jack,  its ok. at least i tried.  i figure if i help people when i can maybe ill earn some help from others when i need it ;)
[11:57] <hatake_kakashi> E: for ext3 there is lost+found folder.. and depending on your fs, there are various ways, some works, others don't
[11:57] <fangorious> breezy, you mean to replace with lilo, or just flat out get rid of it (like to go back to windows)?
[11:57] <Mordof> whats the package called for the C compiles n stuf
[11:57] <nowotny> Ng: yea... too bad my whole system is on that partition... :/
[11:57] <Mordof> compilers*
[11:57] <Ng> nowotny: on the plus side, extending a filesystem doesn't involve a huge amount of rewriting, so the window for damage is quite small and resize2fs was written by a very smart guy :)
[11:57] <Ng> nowotny: can you burn off important things to CD or so?
[11:57] <bliss> not sure where WAN iterface is only two options like I said before
[11:57] <mike-e> how do i reconfigure the way ubuntu reads time from my machine
[11:57] <fangorious> Mordof, gcc
[11:57] <mark__> oh snap, well gnomefreak . could you reccomend me some place for help. because my second monitor is has rectangles of the background all over it that are distrorted
[11:57] <Xenguy> Mordof: build-essential
[11:57] <breezy> with lilo the graphical loader
[11:57] <Mordof> Xenguy, thanks
[11:57] <mark__> http://mindtzar.pastebin.com/555091
[11:57] <gnomefreak> Mordof: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:57] <mark__> my xorg conf
[11:57] <Xenguy> Mordof: yw
[11:57] <mark__> see anything criminal there
[11:57] <mark__> :D
[11:57] <Psi-Jack> delaney: Well. He really gave nothing to actually give him help for. His problem could've been a number of things. Had he actually supplied some background, I could have easily helped out. But with "any REAL ubuntu people here?" just doesn't float. :)
[11:57] <mike-e> how do i reconfigure the way ubuntu reads time from my machine, ntp fails on boot
[11:57] <tatters> I dont understand hostsenrty is out there but cannot find a link to download it
[11:57] <avinoam> Anyone know what to do if you are successful installing a program in wine, but aren't able to run it?
[11:57] <nowotny> Ng: yep... I made a copy with some windows tools...
[11:57] <tatters> does anyone use webmin?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> mark__: a few people that come in here have done it
[11:58] <rewt_> What is launcher command to launch main menu?
[11:58] <Psi-Jack> rewt_: Hey! I finally got the frackin thing to install.
[11:58] <E> hatake_kakashi: could you please can be more especific ;-)
[11:58] <fangorious> Psi-Jack, he actually asked his question 2 or 3 times that I saw before he said that, and nobody volunteered a response
[11:58] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: I've posted my sources - see anything missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8669
[11:58] <delaney> Psi-Jack,  agreed it was arrogant on his part.  i got the impression perhaps he was having connection issues with active/passive perhaps.. who knows really.  im only pulling answers outta the air.
[11:58] <delaney> naptime. bbl
[11:58] <Ng> nowotny: well I fully expect the resize will work if you tell it the right things, I'm just making sure you're aware that this is more than just, say, moving a file :)
[11:59] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: yep
[11:59] <imc_> hi, I have an urgent need to install a WPA supplicant in breezy; any good howtos out there?
[11:59] <fangorious> Psi-Jack, granted I agree that he should have just assumed that meant nobody could help. but it wasn't his opening statement
[11:59] <avinoam> Anyone know what to do if you are successful installing a program in wine, but aren't able to run it?
[11:59] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: I wasn't here to actually see it. I just FINALLY got Kubuntu to install on one of my server boxes after a failed MD5Sum check on a package.
[11:59] <jon_k> avinoam Anyone know what to do if you are successful installing a program in wine, but aren't able to run it?
[11:59] <Mordof> how do ig et out of X?
[11:59] <hatake_kakashi> E: its more of question that it depends, for certain filesystems, you can get recovery applications, not all the time will it work. The thing is, I don't really think there is an actual 'undeleter' for linux. Google around, you may find one, but it is obvious that you should be very careful when you are root
[11:59] <fangorious> Psi-Jack, how you like it so far?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: put a # infront of the very first line the cdrom repo  than take the # away from the onther lines that start with deb
[11:59] <bliss> fangrious   -----not surewhere WAN interface is as I said before only have two options single port forwarding and range port forwarding
[11:59] <avinoam> jon_k, i can do setup, but then i can't start the program
[11:59] <Robocision> Hiya.  What's the best way to obtain nvidia video and creative sound drivers?
[11:59] <nowotny> Ng: I'm aware... I have just done some major partition resizing/moving/deleting/recreating...
[11:59] <Ng> Mordof: you can get a console with ctrl-alt-f1, or slay X immediately with ctrl-alt-backspace (although it will probably restart immediately)
[11:59] <breezy> well is lilo on ubuntu bootloader???
[12:00] <jon_k> avinoam, any errors?
[12:00] <Mordof> Ng, yeah it restarts