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| bob | hmm, i just tried to update to dapper to sort evreything out... and it's got worse. :( | 12:56 |
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| bob | and the ltsp clients still display 'breezy badger'.. hmm. | 12:57 |
| bob | any ideas on what i could be missing? someone said something about installing _heldback_, but it doesnt seem to be there... | 01:00 |
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| mhz | jsgotangco: ping | 05:40 |
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| jsgotangco | mhz, hi | 06:11 |
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| mhz | jsgotangco: are we having today's meeting? | 06:14 |
| jsgotangco | i guess so, its already automatic right? | 06:14 |
| jsgotangco | its not an issue for me because the meeting times here is only 8pm on my side | 06:14 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: well, yeah, every week | 06:15 |
| mhz | but I heard JaneW was sick yesterday | 06:15 |
| mhz | at least that's what ogra told me | 06:16 |
| jsgotangco | we'll just see | 06:16 |
| mhz | for me it is important because that means I have to set the alamr clock :D | 06:16 |
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| JaneW | hi all | 07:53 |
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| JaneW | we will have the meeting today | 07:53 |
| JaneW | at 12:00 UTC as usual | 07:53 |
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| TOZTWO | =) | 08:48 |
| jsgotangco | ok i'll try to think of an excuse | 08:51 |
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| alejandro | ogra, have you tested LTSP in environments with a Solaris dhcp server? | 10:31 |
| ogra | alejandro, nope | 10:32 |
| ogra | i dont have any solaris machines around to test it ... | 10:32 |
| ogra | whats wrong ? | 10:32 |
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| alejandro | it loads the kernel image but it doesnt mount the NFS partition (saying not root path specified, and the root path is configured as /opt/ltsp/i386 in the solaris dhcp server) | 10:33 |
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| ogra | alejandro, which version of dhcpd does solaris use ? | 10:53 |
| ogra | and is this dapper or breezy ? | 10:54 |
| alejandro | ogra, they use their own dhcp server | 11:09 |
| alejandro | ogra, and I'm testing with breezy | 11:09 |
| alejandro | it's not a problem in the distribution because working with a dhcp server in linux, works fine. | 11:10 |
| ogra | i cant help you much if i dont know to which version their dhcpd is compatible ... | 11:10 |
| ogra | do you get an ip for rootserver in the bootprocess ? | 11:11 |
| ogra | or is this field zeroed out ? | 11:11 |
| alejandro | no, it doesnt get an ip | 11:12 |
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| alejandro | when it asks dhcp again and mount NFS with the rootpath | 11:12 |
| alejandro | just says, no root-path | 11:13 |
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| alejandro | in Solaris dhcp server you have to use SrootPTH, so I dont understand why its not working | 11:13 |
| ogra | above that message there is a list of data ... one says "rootserver: " | 11:14 |
| ogra | its either 0.0.0.0 or a correct ip | 11:14 |
| alejandro | yes, rootserver: server address, but it doesnt take the root path from dhcp server, so i dont see such message using the solaris dhcp server | 11:15 |
| alejandro | with Ubuntu works fine | 11:16 |
| ogra | ok, probably the root-path directive is named differently in solaris ... | 11:18 |
| ogra | another option would be to set it like: ip-address:/path/... | 11:18 |
| mhz | ogra: morning | 11:19 |
| ogra | hi | 11:19 |
| mhz | ogra: are we having meeting today? | 11:19 |
| ogra | i guess so ... | 11:19 |
| === mhz yaaaawwns | ||
| mhz | cool | 11:19 |
| ogra | JaneW, ?? ^^^^ | 11:19 |
| JaneW | yes we are | 11:20 |
| mhz | JaneW: !! feeling better??? | 11:20 |
| JaneW | **Reminder** Edubuntu Dev Update meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in +- 1h40mins | 11:20 |
| JaneW | mhz: yes getting there thanks | 11:20 |
| mhz | NOTICE: Nor ogra NOR JaneW can get sick | 11:20 |
| mhz | :D | 11:20 |
| JaneW | mhz: you got a response from mark yet? | 11:21 |
| mhz | none | 11:21 |
| JaneW | hmmm | 11:21 |
| mhz | I dont even know if he reads my emails | 11:21 |
| JaneW | he is still travelling | 11:21 |
| mhz | It's a real torture every time I read "From" column.. Mark Shuttleworth, "Subject" ...(oh not for me) | 11:22 |
| mhz | :D | 11:22 |
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| JaneW | the thing is though the number of 'please come to our event - we'll pay your expenses' he gets are quite high... | 11:24 |
| jsgotangco | see you guys later | 11:24 |
| JaneW | but the amount of 'please come to and/or pay for xyz' it truly astounding... | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | pay for xyz | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | dear mark | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | please pay for the completion of edubuntu cookbook | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | joke | 11:25 |
| JaneW | LOL | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | i gotta go get dinner | 11:25 |
| JaneW | good one | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | see you later | 11:25 |
| JaneW | k, enjoy | 11:26 |
| mhz | JaneW: yeah, I understand, I hope he sees how serious we are on this project and that we dont want to keep his money in our pockets. | 11:28 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, seriously though, i think i can pull off a 5 page quickguide for edubuntu before april | 11:28 |
| jsgotangco | if the cookbook doesn't happen | 11:28 |
| ogra | that'd be really cool ... | 11:28 |
| jsgotangco | just a small guide to make it work | 11:29 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: and I can help you | 11:29 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: \0/ | 11:29 |
| === ogra also planned some docs for the weird cornercases like powerpc clients on amd64 servers for the wiki :) | ||
| JaneW | mhz: |o| | 11:29 |
| jsgotangco | mhz, let's create a simple TOC in the wiki later | 11:29 |
| mhz | ;) | 11:29 |
| JaneW | ogra: \o| | 11:29 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: but wouln't be stepping on others work | 11:30 |
| mhz | +we | 11:30 |
| ogra | heh, seems we have windows support in ltsp now http://www.suares.an/Kubuntu_LTSP_Win4Lin | 11:31 |
| mhz | .oO(edubuntu quickie?) | 11:31 |
| === ogra *giggles* | ||
| === mhz tabbing | ||
| jsgotangco | mhz, sure but i want something in the distro after dapper 4 | 11:33 |
| jsgotangco | i mean flight 4 | 11:33 |
| jsgotangco | we just finished the makefile for the edubuntu doc in svn | 11:33 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: ok, I see your point | 11:33 |
| jsgotangco | doc.ubuntu.com will have edubuntu previews in a few hours | 11:33 |
| jsgotangco | which will then be transferred to help.ubuntu.com | 11:34 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: ok, go have dinner and ping me once you get back so we can chat a few minutes b4 meeting, please | 11:34 |
| jsgotangco | ok | 11:34 |
| jsgotangco | cheers | 11:34 |
| jsgotangco | later | 11:34 |
| mhz | c u | 11:34 |
| mhz | ogra: and what Win4Lin is for? I mean I read the whole procedure but did not get how it is useful. | 11:38 |
| ogra | its like vmware ... you can install windows in an emulator | 11:38 |
| mhz | ooooooh | 11:38 |
| mhz | JaneW: oh, just in case it is useful info, we'll pay for hotel ;) | 11:41 |
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| mhz | ogra: just sharing this anecdote of my current fetish, a bot called 'diabetik' insulting me upon my own request: "You are nothing but a dizzy-eyed pile of left-over vomit" | 12:00 |
| ogra | shudder | 12:01 |
| mhz | I admit I have fallen in love with such bot and I just hope it is a 'she' | 12:01 |
| mhz | I need at least one insult from her a day | 12:01 |
| mhz | to make my day | 12:01 |
| mhz | :D | 12:02 |
| pips1 | hi | 12:02 |
| pips1 | mhz, r u a masochist, or what ;-) | 12:03 |
| signifer123 | hey pips | 12:03 |
| pips1 | hi signifer123 | 12:03 |
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| mhz | yup, I have found -to my total surprise- I may have developed a kind of geek-masochism I never knew I had. Having a bot insulting me when I ask for it, it is very cool | 12:05 |
| mhz | pips1, it is a whole new dimention of geeknes | 12:05 |
| pips1 | I can see there is a lot of progress in the EDubuntu world .. I'm now running edubuntu dapper on my test machine .. and I can see all those package updates rattling through :-) | 12:06 |
| mhz | but hey! it sounds logical after so many hours at the computer, giving love to your OS settings and so. | 12:06 |
| pips1 | mhz, I thought you had a tour of some sorts, so you must be getting out, rather than just sitting in front of your pc, no? | 12:07 |
| pips1 | plus, it's summer in Chile! | 12:08 |
| mhz | pips1: yes, but it is scheduled for april and preparations ahve just started this week. The rest was meetings only, so this fetish was the result of many hours ago :) | 12:09 |
| pips1 | right, :-) | 12:09 |
| mhz | pips1: well, with an avarage of 30 C every day, we get nuts | 12:09 |
| pips1 | phew! | 12:09 |
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| mhz | and my home office is just 120m p/ side only :( | 12:10 |
| pips1 | I prefer cold weather when I need to be productive | 12:10 |
| mhz | pips1: i | 12:10 |
| mhz | Meant 1.20 m | 12:10 |
| mhz | pips1: me too! | 12:11 |
| pips1 | your office is 1 meter 20 cm away ?! huh? | 12:11 |
| mhz | but I can't afford to live following the winter or autumn (my favorite season) | 12:11 |
| mhz | pips1: nope, 1 m 20 cm each wall (a square this small) | 12:12 |
| pips1 | oh | 12:12 |
| pips1 | office box | 12:12 |
| pips1 | ! | 12:12 |
| mhz | and I have to put table, chair, books, aetc | 12:12 |
| mhz | and leave room for a door opening | 12:13 |
| mhz | it is really madness | 12:13 |
| mhz | anyways, yes, edubuntu is getting real cool | 12:14 |
| pips1 | mhz = geek in a cupboard ;-) | 12:14 |
| mhz | pips1: sado-geek in a cupboard! | 12:14 |
| mhz | :D | 12:14 |
| pips1 | haha | 12:14 |
| pips1 | what were you saying about live following winter ...? | 12:15 |
| pips1 | do you mean you'll switch northern and southern hemispheres, in order to stay in winter all year? shudder! | 12:16 |
| mhz | oh, and I forgot the torturing noise. The homeserver box has a constant annoying sound made by the power fan, a tk-tik-tak-tk | 12:16 |
| pips1 | yes, those power fans can be nerve wrecking... when I got my hardware, I got some "silent running" fans, but at the moment my test machine sits on my table and it's rather noisy still | 12:18 |
| pips1 | :-/ | 12:18 |
| mhz | yup, you know what i mean | 12:18 |
| pips1 | there is a meeting scheduled in 40 mins, right? | 12:19 |
| mhz | pips1: if if were for me, I'd live in a place where I get no higher than 20 C every day | 12:19 |
| mhz | -f +t | 12:19 |
| mhz | yup, meeting | 12:19 |
| pips1 | here in Switzerland, it's been very cold, so cold that several of our (smaller) lakes froze solid... I would have liked to go scating and walking on them, but it seems I missed the chance... they are "closing" the lakes already again since the ice isn't thick enough anymore | 12:21 |
| mhz | JaneW: oooh, I forgot to give the good news. I got a Lab to test edubuntu env. (5 modern and 3 old pc's + a nice desktopserver) and invite teachers to know edubuntu in action, with cookies and coffee :D | 12:22 |
| pips1 | well, froze over, of course, not solid | 12:22 |
| JaneW | yay | 12:22 |
| mhz | ohh | 12:22 |
| pips1 | mhz, very nice | 12:23 |
| mhz | + they will print another article about edubuntu for april's issue (delivered for free to many schools) | 12:23 |
| mhz | so I am still making some notes to make that article | 12:24 |
| pips1 | what's that magazine? a Chilean one? | 12:25 |
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| mhz | yup, Colegio Interactivo. I wikied the article | 12:27 |
| pips1 | ah | 12:27 |
| JaneW | **Reminder** Edubuntu Dev Update meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in +- 15 mins <- time to get coffee etc | 12:43 |
| JaneW | also I have added https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuFlight4Announcement for those that would like to add something before the announcement goes out when flight 4 is ready | 12:44 |
| JaneW | if anyone is up to it an Edubuntu equiv of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4 would be fabulous. | 12:44 |
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| mhz | oops, 31 tabs open :) | 12:45 |
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| jsgotangco | are we guys having a meeting or i completely missed something in less than an hour that i was away? | 01:01 |
| pips1 | jsgotangco, the meeting is starting now, me thinks | 01:02 |
| JaneW | mhz_back10min -> meeting time, when you get back | 01:03 |
| JaneW | MEETING TIME #ubuntu-meeting | 01:03 |
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| JaneW | flint: quack | 02:15 |
| pips1 | that was a duck of a fun | 02:15 |
| JaneW | oh he is not even here | 02:15 |
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| mhz | flint: poor duck | 02:16 |
| flint | mhz, sometimes you just have to put your best duck forward and hope for the best...sigh... | 02:17 |
| flint | gonna go get a cupa coffee. | 02:17 |
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| pips1 | mhz, you said that both highvoltage and hno73 did lots of work for the edubuntu site already? | 02:28 |
| mhz | pips1: yes. Highvoltage was preparing a drupal demo (I never saw it so no idea what it was like, and I was willing to test it) and hno73 has been working very hard on a Moin new version for the site. AFAIK, he's even working on a theme for Accessibility issues (I wanted to do it when he told me, he was almost there) | 02:30 |
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| pips1 | oh | 02:34 |
| pips1 | mhz_cookin, good cooking, I'll talk to you later | 02:34 |
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| spacey | ogra: there is a new feature in firefox | 03:23 |
| ogra | is there ? | 03:23 |
| spacey | which might nog be so convienant for terminal servers | 03:23 |
| spacey | http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/009749.html | 03:23 |
| spacey | i hope we can disable that feature by default | 03:24 |
| spacey | its in ffox 1.5 | 03:24 |
| ogra | talk to iwj/Diziet in #ubuntu-devel | 03:25 |
| spacey | ok | 03:26 |
| spacey | ogra: know his email? | 03:29 |
| spacey | since i have to leave on shortterm | 03:29 |
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| ogra | file a bug ? | 03:29 |
| spacey | hmm ok | 03:29 |
| spacey | better idea | 03:29 |
| ogra | that will get his attention in any case | 03:29 |
| spacey | package firefox | 03:29 |
| spacey | mozilla-firefox | 03:29 |
| spacey | hmm | 03:29 |
| ogra | <iwj@ubuntu.com> | 03:30 |
| spacey | bug filing is fine | 03:32 |
| spacey | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/31514 | 03:38 |
| spacey | you might want to subscribe | 03:38 |
| spacey | in case | 03:38 |
| spacey | ogra: iwj = ian jackson? | 03:39 |
| ogra | yup | 03:39 |
| spacey | ah | 03:43 |
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| mhz_cookin | re | 04:14 |
| mhz_cookin | jsgotangco: ping | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 04:14 |
| mhz_cookin | still cooking :( | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | i'll do a draft wiki page for now | 04:15 |
| mhz_cookin | jsgotangco: is 24 UTC ok? | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | that'll be around 8am | 04:15 |
| mhz_cookin | (that will give you time to sleep) | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | no sweat | 04:15 |
| mhz_cookin | ooh | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | i'll just finish the wiki page | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | i'm still finishing something for GAI at the moment | 04:16 |
| mhz_cookin | jsgotangco: what about 02 UTC of q6th ? | 04:16 |
| mhz_cookin | jsgotangco: what about 02 UTC of 16th ? | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | i'll be around | 04:16 |
| mhz_cookin | in other words... what is best UTC for you? | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | the worse for me really is 17 to 22 | 04:17 |
| mhz_cookin | and your ideal? | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | as long as you see me online, i'ts ideal | 04:17 |
| mhz_cookin | jsgotangco: hehehe, okis | 04:18 |
| mhz_cookin | so see you in lot more hours | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | mhz_cookin, i'll do it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuQuickguide | 04:22 |
| mhz_cookin | EdubuntuQuickie ? | 04:23 |
| mhz_cookin | lol | 04:23 |
| mhz_cookin | "I need a Lab, i need a lab!" / "ok, get the EdubuntuQuickie" | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | EdubuntuQuickguide dummy | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | :D | 04:24 |
| mhz_cookin | ok, I'll subscribe to it | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | mhz_cookin, i'm just thinking of desktip guide for now | 04:27 |
| jsgotangco | mhz_cookin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuQuickguide | 04:28 |
| mhz_cookin | sure, end-users? | 04:28 |
| mhz_cookin | end-users = students or teachers ? | 04:28 |
| mhz_cookin | jsgotangco: ? | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | i was thinking more of who uses the workstation version or a terminal client | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | not so much on who actually uses it | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | generic as possible | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | we don't have that much time | 04:30 |
| mhz_cookin | okis, agreed | 04:30 |
| mhz_cookin | now, I will get back to cooking | 04:31 |
| jsgotangco | cheers | 04:31 |
| mhz_cookin | or else you wont have mhz to work with :D | 04:31 |
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| gs_scott | Afternoon | 09:40 |
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| signifer123 | hey | 10:17 |
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| paolob | Hi guys! | 10:21 |
| signifer123 | hey | 10:21 |
| paolob | I have the ltsp server which is connected to the internet. I want that the clients can't access the internet. What should I do? | 10:22 |
| Burgwork | paolob, use squid to not let them on | 10:27 |
| paolob | Burgwork, does squid exist in edubuntu? | 10:27 |
| Burgwork | paolob, it exists in teh ubuntu repos | 10:27 |
| paolob | Burgwork, and is it ready for everyday use? | 10:28 |
| Burgwork | paolob, squid? yes | 10:28 |
| paolob | Burgwork, ok, | 10:29 |
| Burgwork | http://www.squid-cache.org/ | 10:29 |
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| signifer123 | hello | 10:53 |
| signifer123 | is there a patch for jsut losing control of your mouse/keyboard and having to reboot? | 10:53 |
| signifer123 | or is it jsut my mouse | 10:54 |
| paolob | Guys, did anyone be able to have internet access on the ltsp server and not on the clients? | 11:14 |
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