=== dsaa [n=dsaa@210.213.91.187] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur is now known as K-Komiendo-K === K-Komiendo-K is now known as Lord_Athur === bob [n=bob@host-87-75-129-152.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:56] hmm, i just tried to update to dapper to sort evreything out... and it's got worse. :( [12:57] and the ltsp clients still display 'breezy badger'.. hmm. [01:00] any ideas on what i could be missing? someone said something about installing _heldback_, but it doesnt seem to be there... === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.34] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkanox__ [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkanox [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa [n=dsaa@210.213.91.187] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === Lord_Athur [n=Alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-177-130-35.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-177-130-35.houston.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === pitux [n=pitux@225-240-90.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie is away: I love being Pinoy ... ayoko kasing maging mabahong isda === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@59.92.142.94] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_10minutes === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [05:40] jsgotangco: ping === TOZTWO [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.253.31.167.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp134-160.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:11] mhz, hi === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp134-160.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:14] jsgotangco: are we having today's meeting? [06:14] i guess so, its already automatic right? [06:14] its not an issue for me because the meeting times here is only 8pm on my side [06:15] jsgotangco: well, yeah, every week [06:15] but I heard JaneW was sick yesterday [06:16] at least that's what ogra told me [06:16] we'll just see [06:16] for me it is important because that means I have to set the alamr clock :D === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-136-159.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_download === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.60.217.187] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-136-159.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-137-182.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [07:53] hi all === zakame [n=zak@210.213.82.25] has joined #edubuntu [07:53] we will have the meeting today [07:53] at 12:00 UTC as usual === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp134-160.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:48] =) [08:51] ok i'll try to think of an excuse === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-152-47.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-152-47.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has left #edubuntu [] === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.43] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-137-140.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === alejandro [n=alejandr@137.Red-80-25-49.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:31] ogra, have you tested LTSP in environments with a Solaris dhcp server? [10:32] alejandro, nope [10:32] i dont have any solaris machines around to test it ... [10:32] whats wrong ? === TOZII [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.253.8.134.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:33] it loads the kernel image but it doesnt mount the NFS partition (saying not root path specified, and the root path is configured as /opt/ltsp/i386 in the solaris dhcp server) === signifer123 [n=michael@pool-141-157-88-80.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:53] alejandro, which version of dhcpd does solaris use ? [10:54] and is this dapper or breezy ? [11:09] ogra, they use their own dhcp server [11:09] ogra, and I'm testing with breezy [11:10] it's not a problem in the distribution because working with a dhcp server in linux, works fine. [11:10] i cant help you much if i dont know to which version their dhcpd is compatible ... [11:11] do you get an ip for rootserver in the bootprocess ? [11:11] or is this field zeroed out ? [11:12] no, it doesnt get an ip === downclimb^ [n=johnson@host-69-146-166-123.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:12] when it asks dhcp again and mount NFS with the rootpath [11:13] just says, no root-path === mhz_download is now known as mhz [11:13] in Solaris dhcp server you have to use SrootPTH, so I dont understand why its not working [11:14] above that message there is a list of data ... one says "rootserver: " [11:14] its either 0.0.0.0 or a correct ip [11:15] yes, rootserver: server address, but it doesnt take the root path from dhcp server, so i dont see such message using the solaris dhcp server [11:16] with Ubuntu works fine [11:18] ok, probably the root-path directive is named differently in solaris ... [11:18] another option would be to set it like: ip-address:/path/... [11:19] ogra: morning [11:19] hi [11:19] ogra: are we having meeting today? [11:19] i guess so ... === mhz yaaaawwns [11:19] cool [11:19] JaneW, ?? ^^^^ [11:20] yes we are [11:20] JaneW: !! feeling better??? [11:20] **Reminder** Edubuntu Dev Update meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in +- 1h40mins [11:20] mhz: yes getting there thanks [11:20] NOTICE: Nor ogra NOR JaneW can get sick [11:20] :D [11:21] mhz: you got a response from mark yet? [11:21] none [11:21] hmmm [11:21] I dont even know if he reads my emails [11:21] he is still travelling [11:22] It's a real torture every time I read "From" column.. Mark Shuttleworth, "Subject" ...(oh not for me) [11:22] :D === signifer123 [n=michael@pool-141-157-88-80.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:24] the thing is though the number of 'please come to our event - we'll pay your expenses' he gets are quite high... [11:24] see you guys later [11:25] but the amount of 'please come to and/or pay for xyz' it truly astounding... [11:25] wow [11:25] pay for xyz [11:25] dear mark [11:25] please pay for the completion of edubuntu cookbook [11:25] lol [11:25] joke [11:25] LOL [11:25] i gotta go get dinner [11:25] good one [11:25] see you later [11:26] k, enjoy [11:28] JaneW: yeah, I understand, I hope he sees how serious we are on this project and that we dont want to keep his money in our pockets. [11:28] JaneW, seriously though, i think i can pull off a 5 page quickguide for edubuntu before april [11:28] if the cookbook doesn't happen [11:28] that'd be really cool ... [11:29] just a small guide to make it work [11:29] jsgotangco: and I can help you [11:29] jsgotangco: \0/ === ogra also planned some docs for the weird cornercases like powerpc clients on amd64 servers for the wiki :) [11:29] mhz: |o| [11:29] mhz, let's create a simple TOC in the wiki later [11:29] ;) [11:29] ogra: \o| [11:30] jsgotangco: but wouln't be stepping on others work [11:30] +we [11:31] heh, seems we have windows support in ltsp now http://www.suares.an/Kubuntu_LTSP_Win4Lin [11:31] .oO(edubuntu quickie?) === ogra *giggles* === mhz tabbing [11:33] mhz, sure but i want something in the distro after dapper 4 [11:33] i mean flight 4 [11:33] we just finished the makefile for the edubuntu doc in svn [11:33] jsgotangco: ok, I see your point [11:33] doc.ubuntu.com will have edubuntu previews in a few hours [11:34] which will then be transferred to help.ubuntu.com [11:34] jsgotangco: ok, go have dinner and ping me once you get back so we can chat a few minutes b4 meeting, please [11:34] ok [11:34] cheers [11:34] later [11:34] c u [11:38] ogra: and what Win4Lin is for? I mean I read the whole procedure but did not get how it is useful. [11:38] its like vmware ... you can install windows in an emulator [11:38] ooooooh [11:41] JaneW: oh, just in case it is useful info, we'll pay for hotel ;) === sankar [n=sankarsh@59.92.128.95] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@49.7.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [12:00] ogra: just sharing this anecdote of my current fetish, a bot called 'diabetik' insulting me upon my own request: "You are nothing but a dizzy-eyed pile of left-over vomit" [12:01] shudder [12:01] I admit I have fallen in love with such bot and I just hope it is a 'she' [12:01] I need at least one insult from her a day [12:01] to make my day [12:02] :D [12:02] hi [12:03] mhz, r u a masochist, or what ;-) [12:03] hey pips [12:03] hi signifer123 === sankar is now known as sankarshan [12:05] yup, I have found -to my total surprise- I may have developed a kind of geek-masochism I never knew I had. Having a bot insulting me when I ask for it, it is very cool [12:05] pips1, it is a whole new dimention of geeknes [12:06] I can see there is a lot of progress in the EDubuntu world .. I'm now running edubuntu dapper on my test machine .. and I can see all those package updates rattling through :-) [12:06] but hey! it sounds logical after so many hours at the computer, giving love to your OS settings and so. [12:07] mhz, I thought you had a tour of some sorts, so you must be getting out, rather than just sitting in front of your pc, no? [12:08] plus, it's summer in Chile! [12:09] pips1: yes, but it is scheduled for april and preparations ahve just started this week. The rest was meetings only, so this fetish was the result of many hours ago :) [12:09] right, :-) [12:09] pips1: well, with an avarage of 30 C every day, we get nuts [12:09] phew! === dsaa [n=dsaa@210.1.82.9] has joined #edubuntu [12:10] and my home office is just 120m p/ side only :( [12:10] I prefer cold weather when I need to be productive [12:10] pips1: i [12:10] Meant 1.20 m [12:11] pips1: me too! [12:11] your office is 1 meter 20 cm away ?! huh? [12:11] but I can't afford to live following the winter or autumn (my favorite season) [12:12] pips1: nope, 1 m 20 cm each wall (a square this small) [12:12] oh [12:12] office box [12:12] ! [12:12] and I have to put table, chair, books, aetc [12:13] and leave room for a door opening [12:13] it is really madness [12:14] anyways, yes, edubuntu is getting real cool [12:14] mhz = geek in a cupboard ;-) [12:14] pips1: sado-geek in a cupboard! [12:14] :D [12:14] haha [12:15] what were you saying about live following winter ...? [12:16] do you mean you'll switch northern and southern hemispheres, in order to stay in winter all year? shudder! [12:16] oh, and I forgot the torturing noise. The homeserver box has a constant annoying sound made by the power fan, a tk-tik-tak-tk [12:18] yes, those power fans can be nerve wrecking... when I got my hardware, I got some "silent running" fans, but at the moment my test machine sits on my table and it's rather noisy still [12:18] :-/ [12:18] yup, you know what i mean [12:19] there is a meeting scheduled in 40 mins, right? [12:19] pips1: if if were for me, I'd live in a place where I get no higher than 20 C every day [12:19] -f +t [12:19] yup, meeting [12:21] here in Switzerland, it's been very cold, so cold that several of our (smaller) lakes froze solid... I would have liked to go scating and walking on them, but it seems I missed the chance... they are "closing" the lakes already again since the ice isn't thick enough anymore [12:22] JaneW: oooh, I forgot to give the good news. I got a Lab to test edubuntu env. (5 modern and 3 old pc's + a nice desktopserver) and invite teachers to know edubuntu in action, with cookies and coffee :D [12:22] well, froze over, of course, not solid [12:22] yay [12:22] ohh [12:23] mhz, very nice [12:23] + they will print another article about edubuntu for april's issue (delivered for free to many schools) [12:24] so I am still making some notes to make that article [12:25] what's that magazine? a Chilean one? === pips1 is going to grab some lunch before the meeting [12:27] yup, Colegio Interactivo. I wikied the article [12:27] ah [12:43] **Reminder** Edubuntu Dev Update meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in +- 15 mins <- time to get coffee etc [12:44] also I have added https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuFlight4Announcement for those that would like to add something before the announcement goes out when flight 4 is ready [12:44] if anyone is up to it an Edubuntu equiv of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4 would be fabulous. === mhz obediently tabbing [12:45] oops, 31 tabs open :) === mhz is now known as mhz_back10min === JaneW goes to get cofffee === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco waves [01:01] are we guys having a meeting or i completely missed something in less than an hour that i was away? [01:02] jsgotangco, the meeting is starting now, me thinks [01:03] mhz_back10min -> meeting time, when you get back [01:03] MEETING TIME #ubuntu-meeting === dsaa [n=dsaa@210.1.93.220] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu === sniff is now known as snif === Lord_Athur [n=Alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:15] flint: quack [02:15] that was a duck of a fun [02:15] oh he is not even here === flint [n=flint@69-173-179-231.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:16] flint: poor duck [02:17] mhz, sometimes you just have to put your best duck forward and hope for the best...sigh... [02:17] gonna go get a cupa coffee. === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@59.92.128.95] has joined #edubuntu [02:28] mhz, you said that both highvoltage and hno73 did lots of work for the edubuntu site already? [02:30] pips1: yes. Highvoltage was preparing a drupal demo (I never saw it so no idea what it was like, and I was willing to test it) and hno73 has been working very hard on a Moin new version for the site. AFAIK, he's even working on a theme for Accessibility issues (I wanted to do it when he told me, he was almost there) === mhz is now known as mhz_cookin [02:34] oh [02:34] mhz_cookin, good cooking, I'll talk to you later === pitux [n=pitux@98-240-90.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.72.124] has joined #edubuntu === sven-tek [n=sven-tek@p508E685E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:23] ogra: there is a new feature in firefox [03:23] is there ? [03:23] which might nog be so convienant for terminal servers [03:23] http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/009749.html [03:24] i hope we can disable that feature by default [03:24] its in ffox 1.5 [03:25] talk to iwj/Diziet in #ubuntu-devel [03:26] ok [03:29] ogra: know his email? [03:29] since i have to leave on shortterm === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu [03:29] file a bug ? [03:29] hmm ok [03:29] better idea [03:29] that will get his attention in any case [03:29] package firefox [03:29] mozilla-firefox [03:29] hmm [03:30] [03:32] bug filing is fine [03:38] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/31514 [03:38] you might want to subscribe [03:38] in case [03:39] ogra: iwj = ian jackson? [03:39] yup [03:43] ah === vmarks [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:14] re [04:14] jsgotangco: ping [04:14] hi [04:15] still cooking :( [04:15] lol [04:15] i'll do a draft wiki page for now [04:15] jsgotangco: is 24 UTC ok? [04:15] sure [04:15] that'll be around 8am [04:15] (that will give you time to sleep) [04:15] no sweat [04:16] ooh [04:16] i'll just finish the wiki page [04:16] i'm still finishing something for GAI at the moment [04:16] jsgotangco: what about 02 UTC of q6th ? [04:16] jsgotangco: what about 02 UTC of 16th ? [04:16] i'll be around [04:17] in other words... what is best UTC for you? [04:17] the worse for me really is 17 to 22 [04:17] and your ideal? [04:17] as long as you see me online, i'ts ideal [04:18] jsgotangco: hehehe, okis [04:18] so see you in lot more hours [04:19] heh [04:22] mhz_cookin, i'll do it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuQuickguide [04:23] EdubuntuQuickie ? [04:23] lol [04:24] "I need a Lab, i need a lab!" / "ok, get the EdubuntuQuickie" [04:24] EdubuntuQuickguide dummy [04:24] :D [04:24] ok, I'll subscribe to it [04:27] mhz_cookin, i'm just thinking of desktip guide for now [04:28] mhz_cookin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuQuickguide [04:28] sure, end-users? [04:28] end-users = students or teachers ? [04:29] jsgotangco: ? [04:29] i was thinking more of who uses the workstation version or a terminal client [04:30] not so much on who actually uses it [04:30] generic as possible [04:30] we don't have that much time [04:30] okis, agreed [04:31] now, I will get back to cooking [04:31] cheers [04:31] or else you wont have mhz to work with :D === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === TOZTWO [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.227.14.179.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp134-160.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === sniff [n=sniff@218.61.189.245] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.43] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.37.110.17] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-44-55.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_out === dsaa [n=dsaa@210.213.83.178] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-44-55.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b964b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === sithi [n=dhana_1@61.17.182.43] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan is now known as sm|zzz === sniff [n=sniff@218.25.204.11] has joined #edubuntu === signifer123 [n=michael@pool-141-157-88-80.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b964ab.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@99-240-90.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === gs_scott [n=gs_scott@250gis181.gulftel.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:40] Afternoon === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-96.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [10:17] hey === yvesC [n=yves@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-207-189.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === paolob [n=donPaolo@pri-214-b7.codetel.net.do] has joined #edubuntu [10:21] Hi guys! [10:21] hey [10:22] I have the ltsp server which is connected to the internet. I want that the clients can't access the internet. What should I do? [10:27] paolob, use squid to not let them on [10:27] Burgwork, does squid exist in edubuntu? [10:27] paolob, it exists in teh ubuntu repos [10:28] Burgwork, and is it ready for everyday use? [10:28] paolob, squid? yes [10:29] Burgwork, ok, [10:29] http://www.squid-cache.org/ === TOZII [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.226.135.103.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === signifer123 [n=michael@pool-141-157-88-80.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:53] hello [10:53] is there a patch for jsut losing control of your mouse/keyboard and having to reboot? [10:54] or is it jsut my mouse [11:14] Guys, did anyone be able to have internet access on the ltsp server and not on the clients? === MotherLUG [n=karin@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === paolob [n=donPaolo@pri-214-b7.codetel.net.do] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === dsaa [n=dsaa@210.5.92.197] has joined #edubuntu