[12:00] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: For a binary-oriented distribution, Kubuntu is pretty nice. It's not without it's serious flaws, however. MD5Sums on a CD is /bad/. And this has happened in 4.10 and 5.10 now.
[12:00] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: ok will do
[12:00] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone here ever played m4p's in ubuntu?
[12:00] <Ng> nowotny: fair enough :) also, it would be best to do it while the partition isn't mounted ;)
[12:00] <Robocision> For example, which driver do I want from nvidia to use with the newest ubuntu?
[12:00] <fangorious> oKtosiTe, in the single port forwarding, set up a rule to forward port 16022 to port 22 on 193.168.1.64
[12:00] <gnomefreak> breezy: lilo can be installed and used as a bootloader but may i ask what is wrong with grub?
[12:00] <nowotny> Ng: I guess... ;)
[12:00] <hatake_kakashi> !m4p
[12:00] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[12:00] <Ng> Mordof: if you want to stop it completely, drop down to the console, log in and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[12:00] <Mordof> Ng, ctrl + alt + f1 doesn't exit X
[12:00] <Mordof> ok
[12:00] <avinoam> jon_k, i'm running it off of the desktop link, so i don't know, and it's in crossover, so i don't know how to command line it
[12:01] <breezy> to boring thats all
[12:01] <Ng> Moder: does it not take you to a text console?
[12:01] <fangorious> Psi-Jack, did you use the same mirror for each? I've never had bad checksums for Ubuntu images
[12:01] <Ng> err
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> Does K/ubuntu have a manual install method, so you can choose which kernel to install BEFORE it fails? ;}
[12:01] <gnomefreak> breezy: you want color you want picture grub can do most of what lilo can do
[12:01] <Ng> damn I hate it when that happens
[12:01] <bliss> who are you talking to fangorious please
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: Yes. The MD5 of the disc checked out.
[12:01] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: not really
[12:01] <Artan1s> _jason: Yeah, that hard drive is garbage
[12:01] <fangorious> bliss:  in the single port forwarding, set up a rule to forward port 16022 to port 22 on 193.168.1.64
[12:01] <hatake_kakashi> Ng: lol been there done that
[12:01] <breezy> ok tell moi how please
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: i think breezy has an expert install mode
[12:01] <bimberi> Psi-Jack: 'expert' (at the boot prompt) perhaps
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: Why, after I told it to install, again, it offered me a kernel image to install, then? There /is/ a menu.
[12:02] <Ng> hatake_kakashi: I don't display joins/parts in here to cut out the noise, so it happens quite easily to me ;)
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> bimberi: Aha! Poifect.
[12:02] <breezy> how do i change it then
[12:02] <fangorious> breezy, google grub splash
[12:02] <gnomefreak> breezy: tell you how to do what? i sugest you read about grub
[12:02] <breezy> kk
[12:02] <breezy> cheers
[12:03] <E> hatake_kakashi: thnx,
[12:03] <E> I just want to recover some boss' files, and then I can install ubuntu again from zero because the rest of the files I have them in backup, what do you think about it?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell breezy about grub
[12:03] <fangorious> E: i think i hope you can get those files back
[12:03] <gnomefreak> that might help also breezy
[12:03] <tatters> is it normal for packages to dissapear?
[12:04] <fangorious> tatters, define disappear?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> tatters: not really
[12:04] <tatters> not there, no longer exists
[12:04] <fangorious> tatters, no longer installed on your machine? no longer in the repositories? ...
[12:04] <E> thanks gangorious, but I need some orientation
[12:04] <E> some body speaks spanish?
[12:04] <bimberi> !es
[12:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:05] <ompaul> !es
[12:05] <gnomefreak> tatters: that doesnt happen unless you delete it or it was never installed or something needed to uninstall it to be installed
[12:05] <E> Gracias
[12:05] <navarone> ompaul you have to be faster than that...<s>
[12:05] <bliss> fangorious---how do I set up a rule---I have heasdings appplication ---external port ---internal port-----protocol----ip adddrss--enable
[12:05] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: ok this look good? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8670
[12:05] <tatters> well its not in repos nor is there a download for it , but lots of web pages mention it
[12:05] <tatters> its a element in webmin security sentrys
[12:06] <tatters> portsentry and hostsentry but hostsentry is nowhere to be found in any repos
[12:06] <klippo> ive followed guide on ubuntuforums how to create .deb out of the ati installer
[12:06] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: ok save that than sudo apt-get update
[12:06] <klippo> Hi. i need help: http://pastebin.com/554750
[12:06] <larsemil> where to start to get sound working?
[12:06] <klippo> I followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[12:06] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: done
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 :)
[12:07] <fangorious> bliss: i don't know how to use your routers interface. you already set up forwarding for port 22, can't you just repeat the process and use 16022 instead?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: if you were needing that
[12:08] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: that did it - the kernel module compiled. Thank you!
[12:08] <gnomefreak> tatters: http://www.google.com/search?q=hostsentry&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[12:09] <ghoulee> hello! I have a UK keyboard on my IBM T43p thinkpad and I don't see a layout for it
[12:09] <rewt_> question
[12:09] <fangorious> klippo, i don't recall that howto saying to do a modprobe
[12:09] <judgen> hi
[12:09] <tatters> ive read every link
[12:09] <ghoulee> it's the one with the # key just next to the return key on the right
[12:09] <judgen> What is the default root passwd in ubuntu?
[12:09] <ghoulee> judgen: there isn't one.  use sudo
[12:09] <gnomefreak> the first link in the search that i gave you is to download it
[12:10] <judgen> ghoulee, ok..
[12:10] <gnomefreak> tatters: you would have it if you read it :(
[12:10] <rewt_> Any one use gDesklets with AideCandy Boxmail 0.50.0.......it says what is path to inbox....how the hell do i get a path to gmail?
[12:10] <tatters> but thats 1999?
[12:10] <fangorious> klippo, have you posted on the discussion thread for that howto?
[12:11] <tatters> where the support site wikki or anything
[12:11] <rewt_> anyone have a mailbox path setup for gmail?
[12:12] <rewt_> im so confused >.<
[12:12] <bliss> fangorous ---so in port range forwarding application ssh---start 16022 end 16022 --protocol tcp---ip adress 192.168.1.64---
[12:12] <fangorious> bliss, sure
[12:12] <mark__> anyone have any idea how I could get Wolfenstein Enemy Territory to produce sound :\
[12:12] <bliss> and hope for the bestt
[12:12] <mark__> something to do with my sound card being stubborn or something?
[12:12] <fangorious> mark__, have you poked it with a spoon?
[12:12] <amphi> ghoulee: I have mine mapped to us layout, much more sane IMHO
[12:12] <mark__> fangorious, yes
[12:13] <mark__> it still didn't make ANY sound :(
[12:13] <fangorious> mark__: hm, stubborn bastard
[12:13] <klippo> fangorious: since it doesnt load the module i had to check
[12:13] <mark__> when I buy my new system, I'll make sure EACH component is compatible driver wise with linux
[12:14] <fangorious> klippo: so i take it X wouldn't launch after running through the HOWTO, and something in the xorg log indicated the module had not loaded?
[12:14] <judgen> It the palm pilot syncer included in ubuntu only supporting old palm devices?
[12:14] <jon_k> mark__, just buy a soundblaster and be done with it
[12:14] <jon_k> heh
[12:14] <mark__> not a bad idea jon
[12:14] <mark__> how much do you reckon I could get one for without blowing my pockets open
[12:14] <bliss> fangrious---use -p 16022 on which computer I will acess from a windows computer at work
[12:14] <Robocision> hi.  I'm using the newest version of ubuntu.  The wiki tells me to go to Applications, system tools, then terminal.  but there is no terminal option.  What should I do?
[12:15] <Seveas> Robocision, applications -> accessories
[12:15] <klippo> fangorious: yep
[12:15] <Seveas> Robocision, which wikipage?
[12:15] <klippo> tried xorg-driver-fglrx to
[12:15] <Robocision> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28driver%29
[12:15] <ghoulee> amphi: I'd prefer to have the keys print as labled, is this possible?
[12:15] <fangorious> bliss: on the computer you are trying to connect from (Assuming you are using openssh at the command line, I'm not sure how to specify port with other clients)
[12:15] <ompaul> Seveas, I'll do it
[12:16] <Seveas> ompaul, too late, I have the lock :)
[12:16] <ompaul> I see that
[12:16] <ompaul> hehe
[12:16] <bliss> fangorious--I will connect to my home  linux box from a windows box at work
[12:17] <klippo> fangorious: im thinking it have something to do with the latest kernel
[12:17] <bliss> fangrious i will use putty
[12:17] <tatters> is it ok to use a package that 7 yrs old?
[12:17] <tatters> does it matter ?
[12:17] <fangorious> bliss: ok, there's a field to specify port right in the main window of putty
[12:18] <amphi> ghoulee: sure - if you can't find an exact keymap for console, you can edit your keymap to taste
[12:18] <amphi> ghoulee: eg. I have the thinkpad 'pg left' and 'pg right' keys switch VTs
[12:19] <Seveas> tatters, which package?
[12:19] <tatters> hostsentry
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> amphi: How do you do that?  I have mine set up to switch desktop, how VT?
[12:19] <Seveas> W: Unable to locate package hostsentry
[12:19] <gnomefreak> Seveas: its not in any of the official or unofficial repos
[12:20] <bliss> fangrious so I specify -p 16022 in port right box
[12:20] <fangorious> bliss: no, just 16022
[12:20] <Seveas> gnomefreak, which is exactly what that line of mine is saying :)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:20] <amphi> tonyyarusso: echo 'keycode 158 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys && echo 'keycode 159 = Incr_Console' | loadkeys
[12:20] <gnomefreak> i meant to get it out before that
[12:20] <fangorious> bliss: the -p was for using the openssh client in a command shell
[12:21] <tatters> I use webmin and it is  the security sentry  section, it uses portsentry lockchecg and hostsentry
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Thanks.  (Got a good howto link for this sort of thing in general?)
[12:21] <Seveas> yegh, webmin....
[12:21] <amphi> tonyyarusso: makes them act as alt <- and alt ->
[12:21] <Seveas> (sorry)
[12:21] <tatters> but hostsentry seems to have dissapeard after 1999
[12:23] <subdiv> trying to install Kubuntu on an iMac and getting strange errors.
[12:23] <navarone> tatters have you looked at this site http://sourceforge.net/projects/sentrytools/
[12:23] <amphi> tonyyarusso: I don't recall; there are bits and pieces on linux-laptop.net; some useful bits at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[12:23] <bliss> fangorious ---now just another point to finish I have the same problem  with webmin  can connect on my home computer at https://mydomain.com:10000/ but not from outside but port 10000 is enabled for webmin in port range forwarding
[12:23] <IdleOne> subdiv:  #kubuntu
[12:23] <subdiv> sorry
[12:24] <IdleOne> np :)
[12:24] <IdleOne> well
[12:24] <IdleOne> didnt need to quit
[12:24] <IdleOne> lol
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> amphi: 'k.
[12:24] <tatters> bliss do u use the security sentry of webmin?
[12:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: the latter is where I found the 'undervolt' patch
[12:24] <bliss> tatters no
[12:24] <tatters> sry nav just saw your post chking now
[12:24] <amphi> cpu runs a lot cooler now
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Slower or just cooler?
[12:25] <amphi> just cooler
[12:25] <amphi> tonyyarusso: lower voltages for each freq
[12:25] <fangorious> bliss: you may want to try disabling the 'block WAN request' option on the router.
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Does that help battery life?
[12:26] <fangorious> bliss: i have to go now, good luck. i'm on here pretty regularly though
[12:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: yeah, somewhat
[12:26] <sobersabre> hi.
[12:26] <bliss> fangorious --you mean what I mentioned before as being checked
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> amphi: That would be nice.
[12:26] <sobersabre> any aussies  ?
[12:27] <Loevborg> w00t is news.gmane.org down?
[12:27] <navarone> tatters in the forum on sourceforge someone has posted a link to a download on tucows. It is Hostsentry 0.02  ...looks like it is source in tar.gz so you may have to compile
[12:27] <omerix> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:27] <omerix> how can i solve this problem: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:27] <bimberi> omerix: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:27] <filted> who Xappe
[12:27] <sobersabre> omerix , I have an idea what's the problem!
[12:28] <omerix> sobersabre: what
[12:28] <guerby> hi again, I have an edubuntu spash screen at boot, how do I go back to a regular ubuntu one?
[12:28] <sobersabre> you don't have a compiler! :) :) :)
[12:28] <IdleOne> where can I check hardware compatibilty in ubuntu?
[12:28] <bliss> how do I save this chat session please
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to check for nicks of a location by somehow getting /names | /whois - | grep .uk (obviously not actually that sytanx probably, but now you know what I'm getting at.)
[12:29] <sobersabre> IdleOne: goto System->Settings->Hardware Compatibility
[12:29] <sobersabre> :)
[12:29] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, offtopic
[12:29] <IdleOne> ty sobersabre
[12:29] <monteiro> i've a webcam logitech express, and when i trie to acess the device with xawtv , computer freezes and i've' to reboot the pc, any ideas ?
[12:29] <amphi> tonyyarusso: my T42 used to go to over 70C under load; undervolted it barely reaches 50C
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Point.  Sorry.
[12:29] <sobersabre> IdleOne I am kidding.
[12:29] <sobersabre> this is a joke.
[12:29] <IdleOne> lol
[12:29] <IdleOne> freak
[12:29] <IdleOne> !
[12:29] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[12:29] <sobersabre> IdleOne  Ubuntu supports all the hardware linux supports.
[12:29] <Robocision> Hi.  Last question.  What's the best way to get my SoundBlaster Audigy gamer working?
[12:29] <IdleOne> sorry about the enter punctuation
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Eigh.  Mine's more like 45.
[12:29] <bimberi> uboto tell IdleOne about hardware
[12:30] <sobersabre> IdleOne for specific release you need to check "release notes" or install notes.
[12:30] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, I was answering you in offtopic I meant :-)
[12:30] <IdleOne> !hardware
[12:30] <ubotu> I guess hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Ah, understood now.  Although I should have been asking it there anyway.
[12:31] <ompaul> heheh
[12:31] <Robocision> anyone?  SoundBlaster audigy help.  What's the best way to get it functioning?  (I'm a linux newbie.)
[12:31] <tatters> Naverone I did chk that link before but there is no download for hostsentry on there
[12:31] <bimberi> IdleOne: sorry, i didn't notice my typo (uboto)
[12:31] <breezy> whats happenin with soundblaster no sound out of it??
[12:32] <nowotny> Ng: hey... thanks... :) it worked...
[12:32] <breezy> what version of linux u using
[12:32] <IdleOne> bimberi:  np
[12:32] <Robocision> I'm using Ubuntu.
[12:32] <sobersabre> IdleOne do you worry about any special piece of hardware ?
[12:32] <breezy> kk
[12:32] <nick01> is there a firewalla enabled by default ? cause azureus is not working ?
[12:32] <breezy> should be already drivers installed with ubuntu
[12:32] <sobersabre> nick01 are you directly connected to the internet ?
[12:32] <nick01> yes
[12:33] <breezy> coz i got drivers with mine
[12:33] <Robocision> I just freshly installed Ubuntu and I got my Nvidia card drivers installed.  Just wondering the best way to get new drivers.
[12:33] <sobersabre> no routers in the middle ?
[12:33] <nick01> no
[12:33] <bimberi> nick01: no firewalling by default, you might get some tips here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:33] <navarone> Robocision are you able to get sound at all?
[12:33] <rewt_> anyone have a mailbox path setup for gmail?
[12:33] <bimberi> ubotu tell Robocision about nvidia
[12:33] <nick01> tks bimberi
[12:33] <breezy> i got soundblaster audigy 2 zs
[12:33] <sobersabre> rewt_ which mua ?
[12:33] <rewt_> BoxMAil
[12:33] <bimberi> nick01: np :)
[12:33] <rewt_> I dunno its through gDesklets
[12:34] <nyc-h0st> hey guys i want to switch off dhcp and go static, instructions?
[12:34] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  my burner isnt working and cant figure out why
[12:34] <nick01> bimberi, that only tells me how to install it  :(
[12:34] <sobersabre> rewt_ WTF is this mailer ?!?!
[12:34] <sobersabre>  :)
[12:34] <sobersabre> IdleOne what do you mean it doesn't work ?
[12:34] <IdleOne> I mean it isnt being recognised
[12:34] <nyc-h0st> hey guys i want to switch off dhcp and go static, instructions?
[12:34] <sobersabre> is it external/internal ? DVD ? which model ? what age ?
[12:34] <bimberi> nick01: darn :/ - hoped it might mention any networking issues - sorry
[12:35] <sobersabre> IdleOne which ubuntu release do you use ?
[12:35] <tatters> hmm what should I do with regards to this old package should i use it will i get problems
[12:35] <IdleOne> breezy
[12:35] <nick01> bimberi, azureus now sais I'm firewalled
[12:35] <tatters> 1999 seems a bit old to me
[12:35] <sobersabre> IdleOne when have bought it ? have you already burned any CDs with it ?
[12:35] <bimberi> nyc-h0st: System -> Administration -> Networking
[12:35] <sobersabre> IdleOne what's the model ?
[12:35] <nyc-h0st> bimberi sorry no graphical interface
[12:36] <breezy> wot u want idle one
[12:36] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  its a couple years old and burned cd's on a windows machine model : lite-ON ltn486 48x max
[12:36] <bimberi> nyc-h0st: ok, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:36] <breezy> ok
[12:36] <sobersabre> IdleOne when was the last time it burned CDs ?
[12:36] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  about six months ago
[12:36] <sobersabre> ( couple of years old is O L D )
[12:36] <tatters> is webmin an outdated package,,,, is there a ubuntu supported one that similer?
[12:36] <sobersabre> IdleOne do you know to which block device is it attached ?
[12:37] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  no
[12:37] <amphi> !webmin
[12:37] <ubotu> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount for webmin instructions for Ubuntu. Webmin runs on https://localhost:10000
[12:37] <breezy> have you tried device manager
[12:37] <navarone> IdleOne, have you doen any rummaging inside...poking at cables that may have loosened connections...?
[12:37] <sobersabre> can you open a terminal and type "ls -l /dev/cdrom" ?
[12:37] <amphi> oh, not like the dpkg factoid ;)
[12:37] <IdleOne> navarone:  yup
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Think the ThinkWiki keeps up to date pretty well?  (As in, will it have things relevant to the new kernel and stuff so it's still a reliable resource when Dapper releases?)
[12:37] <IdleOne> navarone:  all is nice and tight
[12:37] <sobersabre> navarone the drive is 2 years old.
[12:37] <navarone> IdleOne, I would check connections and see if they are solid
[12:37] <navarone> Ok
[12:37] <sobersabre> 2 YEARS OLD!!!!
[12:38] <navarone> sobersabre, ? so?
[12:38] <amphi> tonyyarusso: dunno, to be honest
[12:38] <amphi> tonyyarusso: what stinkpad do you have?
[12:38] <sobersabre> navarone if you do regular backup, the drive's laser gets dirty in 1.x years only from opening and closing the tray.
[12:38] <breezy> idle one try system/synaptic package manager
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> amphi: All right.  Worth a shot.
[12:38] <nick01> bimberi, but the included bittorrent client has no problems at all :/
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> amphi: T43 2668-49U
[12:38] <sobersabre> IdleOne so ... have you ran the ls -l commadn ?
[12:39] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2006-02-14 17:58 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
[12:39] <sobersabre> OK.
[12:39] <sobersabre> now run this command:
[12:39] <breezy> and search to see if there is an alsa-base package installed
[12:39] <navarone> sobersabre,  be that as it may...who knows how often it has been used...although IdleOne  said it was last used 6 months ago...so...I doubt thta is relevant
[12:39] <breezy> and install it if it isnt
[12:39] <amphi> tonyyarusso: I doubt the centrino cpufreq code is going to change much, if you're talking about the 'undervolt' patch applying cleanly to later kernels
[12:39] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep hdc | less
[12:40] <sobersabre> IdleOne got the command ?
[12:40] <sobersabre> just copy paste it, but don't paste the output here.
[12:40] <JloR> what ubuntu could really need, that most other distros have, is a progress bar on the apt-get process..
[12:40] <JloR> I've missed that feature a few times while doing apt-get distupdate or whatever the command was.
[12:40] <sobersabre> IdleOne have you found any output of that command on the screen ?
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Eh, nothing specifically in mind at the moment, but that's good to know at least.
[12:40] <Kindred> it has percentage doesnt it
[12:40] <sobersabre> JloR apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:40] <JloR> Kindred: not that I can see.
[12:41] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  cant scroll up to paste all the output
[12:41] <JloR> sobersabre: that's the one :)
[12:41] <amphi> JloR: what for? you've got the package and total percentage displayed
[12:41] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep hdc | less
[12:41] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep hdc | less
[12:41] <sobersabre> got it ?
[12:41] <IdleOne> yup
[12:41] <JloR> amphi: no.. I dont.. I have "setting up <package name>..." and.. so on..
[12:41] <sobersabre> if that is nothing, try
[12:41] <JloR> I'd like to know which package out of how many that actually is. And also, when downloading those, I'd like to know how many it actually wants to download..
[12:41] <amphi> JloR: oh, you mean that stage
[12:42] <JloR> that's not information that is displayed.
[12:42] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep -i "seek" | less
[12:42] <amphi> JloR: how many bytes in how many packages are to be downloaded is displayed
[12:42] <avinoam> Hey where is XF86Config-4 at in ubuntu?
[12:42] <JloR> the dist-upgrade takes ages and ages again - so I'd like to just have a rought estimate.. So I could see if I should take a nap, or a cup of coffee :)
[12:42] <bimberi> !xorg
[12:42] <ubotu> I heard xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:42] <sobersabre> avinoam wake up, it's corg time!
[12:42] <Kindred> JloR,  that should all be displayed..
[12:42] <amphi> avinoam: nowhere; xorg.conf
[12:42] <sobersabre> s/corg/xorg
[12:42] <JloR> amphi: are to be downloaded yes... but.. what happens when the first 3000 lines have been shown then? Then that info is lost.
[12:43] <sobersabre> seek thee for /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <avinoam> ok, where is that at?
[12:43] <JloR> and.. it doesn't really show which package it's at.
[12:43] <naetrick> Where is the modprobe configuration file, to load modules at boot?
[12:43] <JloR> Kindred: how - where - how?
[12:43] <sobersabre> IdleOne what's up.... ?
[12:43] <avinoam> sobersabre, i have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <sobersabre> avinoam ... do you have ubuntu ?
[12:43] <amphi> JloR: but you only need it at the 'continue y/n?' stage, right?
[12:43] <avinoam> sobersabre, yup
[12:43] <rewt_> sigh ill never figure out this crap
[12:43] <JloR> But anyway, this is turning into a flame - that was really not the intention.
[12:43] <avinoam> wait one sec
[12:44] <amphi> rewt_: heh
[12:44] <sobersabre> avinoam ...then you need to install x-windows packages.
[12:44] <JloR> amphi: I didn't even see that I think.. But no, I'd really like it after that stage.
[12:44] <riddlebox> does anyone else have problems connecting to vnc servers?
[12:44] <avinoam> sobersabre, that is odd, isn't it?
[12:44] <avinoam> sobersabre, i'm using gnome and it's just not there
[12:44] <JloR> to see the progress - not to see what needs to be done.
[12:44] <amphi> JloR: I'm not flaming, I just don't see any necessity for it
[12:44] <avinoam> sobersabre, so what configurations is it using?
[12:44] <IdleOne> sobersabre: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8671
[12:44] <JloR> amphi: imagine sitting at a slow internet connection, at a 700mhz machine with 128mb ram..
[12:44] <amphi> JloR: more than the updated percentage complete?
[12:45] <JloR> imagine upgrading from 5.10 to dapper..
[12:45] <sobersabre> IdleOne did you find messages like "{DriveSeek REady " or not ?
[12:45] <JloR> Then you would love to see which package it was downloading out of how many.. continously.
[12:45] <IdleOne> lemme look
[12:45] <JloR> And you'd love even more to see which package it was setting up - out of how many.
[12:45] <JloR> also.. continously.
[12:45] <amphi> JloR: I don't have to imagine, I ran debian on a 266MHz with 64MB ram on dialup for a long time ;)
[12:45] <JloR> :)
[12:45] <sobersabre> avinoam, have you installed the system or upgraded from sarge ?
[12:46] <JloR> Sure it's nice to  see ahead of download how much it expects to download and install - but it's also nice to see how far it has progressed.
[12:46] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  nope nothing like that
[12:46] <avinoam> sobersabre, installed
[12:46] <amphi> JloR: but it shows that, as a percentage, for the total & for each package
[12:46] <JloR> amphi: I don't see that.
[12:46] <avinoam> sobersabre, hmm i see it now in nautilus
[12:46] <navarone> avinoam did you do a server installation?
[12:47] <navarone> ok nvm
[12:47] <JloR> it shows the wget info .. but that's not really enough. That just shows for that package..
[12:47] <Delvien> sweet did they break X on dapper yet?
[12:47] <christopher> hey anyone use Enlightenment for linux?
[12:47] <JloR> I can't see any info about how many more packages are to gol.
[12:47] <sobersabre> IdleOne I can see your drive is recognized.
[12:47] <JloR> go*
[12:47] <Delvien> reading some disturbing things with the new Dapper update
[12:47] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  but it wont burn cd's
[12:48] <amphi> JloR: true; it numbers the packages, but doesn't show foo/bar
[12:48] <christopher> anyone use Enlightenment Desktop?
[12:48] <amphi> JloR: but the number is not that meaningful given the varying package sizes
[12:48] <Nameeater> why would I be getting almost like ping traffic across the network? does samba ping stuff? :/
[12:48] <JloR> exactly.. that's not really useful (unless you have a normal - subnormal memory and can remember that huge number it displayed in the beginning of the apt-get -- I dont).
[12:48] <JloR> amphi: it's still somewhat nice to know.
[12:48] <larsemil> i get no sound. 1. ubuntu does not find my soundcard. 2. the module for my soundcard is loaded. 3 esd was not loaded - loading it made a sound in my speakers.. but i still dont get ubuntu to find my soundcard...
[12:49] <amphi> JloR: sure, it would do no harm
[12:49] <JloR> and I'd really love it during the "setting up" phase :)
[12:49] <judgen> How do i change from gnome to kde?
[12:49] <christopher> excuse
[12:49] <JloR> anyway, I have no business complaining really.. a) I wont have a say in things as a single person b) I never use ubuntu.
[12:49] <sobersabre> judgen do you have both installed or not ?
[12:49] <christopher> do any of you ppl talking use Enlightenment?
[12:49] <navarone> IdleOne, how many cd-drives are in your machine?
[12:50] <Chris_Tucker> judgen, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then choose it at login
[12:50] <judgen> sobersabre, i have both
[12:50] <amphi> JloR: of course you have a say as an individual
[12:50] <IdleOne> navarone:  1
[12:50] <JloR> christopher: I have tried it - but I didn't like it (I tried it at my laptop, so several features didn't work.. Mostly mouse related)
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> A progress bar during install would be good.  Don't much care about apt-get having it myself.
[12:50] <sobersabre> then logout the session, and upon new logon choose KDE.
[12:50] <judgen> ill try that then
[12:50] <christopher> hmm thats probably my problem then
[12:50] <JloR> a lot of weird mouse click combos for menus and so on :)
[12:50] <JloR> but looks pretty
[12:50] <christopher> im using it on a laptop and i get get the Applications menu to stop from scrolling off the screen
[12:51] <christopher> cant*
[12:51] <JloR> hmm, okay..
[12:51] <JloR> well, I'm a fluxbox person.
[12:51] <amphi> JloR: what do you run on your laptop?
[12:51] <christopher> so i take it i should stick with GNOME?
[12:51] <JloR> amphi: gentoo linux
[12:51] <christopher> I tried installing fluxbox of its site
[12:51] <amphi> JloR: uhuh - debian here, and openbox
[12:51] <JloR> hehe :)
[12:51] <christopher> and i couldnt get it to install but then again im a newbie
[12:51] <Delvien> Well rebooting, see if everything dies on me
[12:51] <christopher> i use Ubuntu 5.10
[12:52] <JloR> christopher: did you use the .deb (from the package manager in ubuntu) ?
[12:52] <navarone> Idleone how come it lists two...maybe three as hdc? Lite-on , Atapi (which maybe generic name for Lite-on) and a Matshita CR-583...<shrug> ?
[12:52] <amphi> christopher: fluxbox should be packaged
[12:52] <Robocision> How do I install a downloaded application for Ubuntu from a website?
[12:52] <Robocision> I downloaded the Second Life linux client.
[12:52] <christopher> it doesnt appear
[12:52] <JloR> oh my god!.. OH MY GOD.... it froze.. it froze up on me.. "Starting PCMCIA Services..." .. my dist-upgrade froze.
[12:52] <JloR> I sure as **** hope this saved some info!
[12:52] <amphi> JloR: ctrl-c ;)
[12:52] <ompaul> JloR, were you moving from breezy to daooer
[12:52] <christopher> nope not on mine
[12:53] <christopher> just black box
[12:53] <JloR> no.. seriously.. entire box froze up
[12:53] <ompaul> JloR, were you moving from breezy to dapper
[12:53] <JloR> ompaul: yea
[12:53] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:53] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[12:53] <JloR> yea?
[12:53] <nick01> bimberi, any idea what's wrong |?
[12:53] <vadersolo> Hi there
[12:53] <JloR> ompaul: and?
[12:53] <bimberi> nick01: no idea sorry :/
[12:54] <Robocision> So yeah, I downloaded the Second Life linux client.  Now I need to install it.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
[12:54] <vadersolo> I installed ubuntu in english, and I now i want to switch the language to spanish, how can I do that??
[12:54] <amphi> christopher: you have the universe and multiverse repos in your sources.list ?
[12:54] <christopher> yep
[12:54] <nick01> can anybody help me with a firewall error in azureus ?
[12:54] <JloR> Gah.. when you have to hard reboot a linux machine, then you know something bad happened to it :\
[12:54] <christopher> even added more custom ones from the forums that i learned about
[12:54] <navarone> JloR, I think ompaul was trying to let you know that upgrading to dapper had inherent risks
[12:54] <JloR> at least numlock still works
[12:54] <amphi> christopher: well, fluxbox is easy enough to build from source ASIR
[12:54] <JloR> navarone: yea.. and that I know.. Mainly because dapper is still not final :p
[12:55] <Robocision> Anyone?  How do you install a downloaded application from a website?
[12:55] <amphi> christopher: what gave you a problem?
[12:55] <JloR> not a very nice way to tell me though :\
[12:55] <christopher> yeah i read about that building stuff haha i heard it can be a pain in the butt
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> Robocision: What type of file did you get?
[12:55] <christopher> well in ubuntu's gnome....
[12:55] <Loevborg> Robocision, follow their instructions
[12:55] <amphi> christopher: usually not
[12:55] <christopher> the desktop shortcut didnt work
[12:55] <Robocision> A bz2
[12:55] <christopher> it had the exclamation point icon
[12:55] <christopher> and it said desktop not found
[12:55] <ompaul> JloR, well if you knew why the gasp ? ;-)
[12:55] <amphi> christopher: it's rarely you have to mess with the code to get stuff to build on linux
[12:56] <JloR> I never expect something to freeze up on me - especially not freeze up on me so much I have to hard reboot in linux...
[12:56] <JloR> And if I did - I wouldn't do it in the first place.
[12:56] <amphi> christopher: old things written on solaris or something can need a bit of tweaking here and there sometimes
[12:56] <christopher> amphi thanks for helping me.. you have no idea how long i been trying to find someone who knows about this stuff
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> Robocision: Check for instructions on the site, a README or INSTALL file in what you downloaded, or see !compile and !checkinstall.
[12:56] <amphi> christopher: how far did you get?
[12:56] <JloR> BUT - since someone made it work, I figured it might be possible.. so I gave it a shot.
[12:56] <christopher> like i just installed my first linux distro last week
[12:56] <Robocision> thanks
[12:56] <christopher> so i dont really know what im doing
[12:57] <avinoam> stupid WINE won't let me input in hebrew
[12:57] <amphi> christopher: some bewilderment is to be expected ;)
[12:57] <christopher> im copying and pasting forum threads
[12:57] <navarone> JloR, at least you backed up your data first right?
[12:57] <JloR> Okay. .that was a short lifespan for my ubuntu :p
[12:57] <bimberi> nick01: http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/lugischia/2006-January/000501.html
[12:57] <amphi> christopher: you downloaded a fluxbox source tarball?
[12:57] <christopher> i had to reinstall ubuntu because i copied and pasted a source.list file in order to add repositories
[12:57] <christopher> turns out it was for the wrong version of ubuntu haha screwed me up
[12:57] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Nice.
[12:58] <JloR> navarone: I installed 6 hours ago - I started upgrading 5 hours ago.. it finished 10 minutes ago - no, I did not backup. Don't see the point when it's not a machine I've been using for long time.
[12:58] <amphi> christopher: heh, 'measure twice, cut once'
[12:58] <christopher> yeah but its on my gnome environment not this one (enlightenment)
[12:58] <christopher> lol
[12:58] <christopher> wise words
[12:58] <JloR> Aaand.. Now it can't start up - it did manage to mess with my LVM groups :)
[12:58] <navarone> JloR, you installed breezy then upgraded to dapper immediately?
[12:58] <christopher> well the reason why i am here is... i just installed enlightenment 16
[12:58] <amphi> christopher: anyway, do you have the source tarball for fluxbox?
[12:58] <JloR> navarone: pretty much, yea.
[12:58] <christopher> and this is the only thing i could view and use
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> 'measure twice, cut somebody else's board first and see how it goes'
[12:58] <christopher> yes i dled the latest one
[12:58] <JloR> installed some drivers for my matrox card - and an SMP kernel.. then did the upgrade.
[12:59] <navarone> JloR, first time linux user?
[12:59] <JloR> navarone: far from
[12:59] <cortana> what is the deal with /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile -- why do the modules in linux-restricted-modules get regenerated at every boot?
[12:59] <navarone> ok
[12:59] <amphi> christopher: did you untar it?
[12:59] <christopher> i think it was a .deb file
[12:59] <christopher> so then i tried chmod
[12:59] <navarone> JloR, why not just download the dapper iso and install that fresh?
[12:59] <christopher> to convert it to bin
[12:59] <recon00> Does anybody know what LaTeX is? i have a book in that format.
[12:59] <amphi> christopher: oh, you have a deb? for what?
[12:59] <christopher> well no
[12:59] <JloR> because I had the breezy, and had no idea that I couldn't use xorg 7.0 on that.
[12:59] <amphi> christopher: no, no, that way madness lies ;)
[12:59] <JloR> and I'm just playing around on this machine :)
[12:59] <christopher> i went to fluxbox' site  and i didnt know which one to dl
[01:00] <amphi> christopher: hang on
[01:00] <navarone> JloR, nothing ventured nothing gained...<s>
[01:00] <JloR> hehe
[01:00] <christopher> def will do
[01:00] <JloR> navarone: I had fun seeing the speed enhancement when changing from standard ubuntu kernel to SMP ubuntu kernel.
[01:00] <ompaul> JloR, it is unstable - that means it is not ready, it scares me when I see people typing dapper in the channel, so I hit that thing, I do a lot of hours on irc and I wish dist upgrade came with a big warning for unstable, that is one of two good ideas I have had today, must register them on the wiki or launchpad or somewhere
[01:00] <Delvien> is XGL worth it?
[01:00] <amphi> christopher: ok, you got the 'debian package'?
[01:00] <recon00> How do I view a book in .tex format?
[01:00] <christopher> umm
[01:01] <christopher> i dont remember now
[01:01] <christopher> i might have deleted it in frustration
[01:01] <christopher> amphi:  quick question
[01:01] <JloR> ompaul: still not a very polite way of letting someone know something they might know already. Just because you hear a gasp or a sigh or something , doesn't mean that people start whining and blaming everyone but themselves.
[01:01] <amphi> christopher: ok, there is a breezy package
[01:01] <christopher> amphi: is xchat avail on GNOME ?
[01:01] <Hysty> recon00: have a look in the repositories for a tex viewer
[01:01] <amphi> christopher: do this is a terminal: wget http://people.debian.org/~dopey/fluxbox/ubuntu-breezy/fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[01:01] <Mordof> ok! problem with installing nvidia drivers, apparently the package was compiled on an earlier kernal, with an older version of the gcc compiler.. what do i do!!?!?!
[01:01] <christopher> should i switch on to GNOME because i cant do anything in enlightenment.. frankly i dont know how to
[01:01] <amphi> christopher: yes
[01:02] <navarone> recon00, doa s earch in synaptic for latex and install package. It is a serious program for preparing docs,books etc...and viewing them obviously
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> christopher: It comes in the default install of Ubuntu.
[01:02] <Hysty> recon00: latex is a type of document format that uses special instructions to display formulas or graphics etc
[01:02] <amphi> christopher: that was, "yes, xchat is available in gnome"
[01:02] <christopher> ok now i have to get this addy copied right
[01:02] <christopher> my first time in xchat...
[01:02] <JloR> ompaul: I've been using some form of linux for roughly 7 years now - I'm currently in the middle of a computer science education, I know a fair bit about linux and I am perfectly aware of what "beta" or "unstable" implies in connection to software.. Yet, I gasp when something freezes up my linux box so bad that I have to hard-reboot it... That doesn't make me a linux newbie or a pain in the butt to you and the others in here..
[01:02] <amphi> christopher: can you not copy and paste that whole command into a terminal?
[01:02] <christopher> yeah i can
[01:02] <JloR> and thus doesn't give you (or anyone) the right to patronize me..
[01:03] <christopher> but im in enlightenment right now
[01:03] <christopher> not in gnome
[01:03] <amphi> christopher: doesn't matter
[01:03] <christopher> i dont want to leave this chat yet to switch untill i know i can get back into this room
[01:03] <christopher> oh
[01:03] <clever> i tryed both totem movie player and vlc on my laptop and both of them say encrypted dvd support isnt availble
[01:03] <Mordof> anyone have any experience installing nvidia drivers?
[01:03] <amphi> christopher: don't switch now
[01:03] <recon00> I can't find a latex viewer in synaptic.
[01:03] <christopher> i just installed it.. so i dont know how to access anything
[01:03] <amphi> clever: you need libdvdcss probably
[01:04] <clever> how do i install it?
[01:04] <christopher> my application menu choice wont stay for me to scroll thru to pick an app to run
[01:04] <amphi> recon00: there's a GUI for latex called LyX, FWIW
[01:04] <christopher> its opens up really quickly and scrolls off the screen in a way
[01:04] <clever> apt-get libdvdcss?
[01:04] <amphi> !dvd
[01:04] <ubotu> dvd is probably DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> christopher: I had that problem too.  Mucked around in settings and eventually fixed it, but I'm not sure exactly what.
[01:04] <clever> k:)
[01:04] <Mordof> i need help with nvidia drivers!!! my kernal is newer and the gcc compiler is newer than the drivers were made with! WHAT DO I DO?!?!
[01:04] <christopher> yeah i did too
[01:04] <Mordof> agh! so confused
[01:04] <christopher> i found the animation menu choice and i turned it off and it still does it
[01:04] <amphi> christopher: you have a terminal yet?
[01:05] <Hysty> recon00: Lyx is based on Latex, but it can also view latex documents
[01:05] <christopher> no
[01:05] <christopher> dont know how to get it
[01:05] <christopher> oh wait
[01:05] <christopher> nmd
[01:05] <amphi> got one?
[01:05] <christopher> yep
[01:05] <X-GueSt> ppl someone running Xgl succefully on dapper? :o
[01:05] <amphi> cool; paste that command I gave you
[01:05] <X-GueSt> I hav a problem
[01:05] <christopher> alright let me scrollll up
[01:05] <X-GueSt> An alternative to this, is just to run:
[01:05] <X-GueSt> Code:
[01:05] <X-GueSt> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mesalibs /opt/fdo/bin/glxcompmgr shadow wobbly
[01:05] <Mordof> (repost.. i really need help..) i need help with nvidia drivers!!! my kernal is newer and the gcc compiler is newer than the drivers were made with! WHAT DO I DO?!?!
[01:05] <amphi> christopher: do this is a terminal: wget http://people.debian.org/~dopey/fluxbox/ubuntu-breezy/fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[01:05] <elkbuntu> eep 66mb updates
[01:06] <X-GueSt> # LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mesalibs /opt/fdo/bin/glxcompmgr shadow wobbly
[01:06] <X-GueSt> /opt/fdo/bin/glxcompmgr: Couldn't open display :0.0
[01:06] <X-GueSt> why does this happen ?
[01:06] <X-GueSt> :|
[01:06] <amphi> christopher: *in a terminal
[01:06] <JloR> Thanks for the nice help people :-) I'll look into this dapper business tomorrow again, hopefully. Today has been a fun learning experience.
[01:06] <jhons2> (help) I am unable to install grub
[01:06] <amphi> hard lockup as learning experience? hehe
[01:06] <Delvien> Anyone here with experience with XGL ?
[01:06] <bj_> X-GueSt: type /join Xgl-ubuntu smart people in there
[01:06] <JloR> amphi: well, for a playing machine - yea.. :) nice
[01:06] <bj_> #Xgl-ubuntu
[01:06] <X-GueSt> Delvien, I want someone on that 2 :p
[01:07] <amphi> JloR: I used to lock mine up a lot mucking about with c and svgalib ;)
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> jhons2: It might help if you explain the problem you're having doing so.
[01:07] <christopher> ok 100 percent
[01:07] <JloR> amphi: so far I've only done it with X on my laptop (bad kernel module for Xfree86.. hehe) and this one time with ubuntu while upgrading to dapper :)
[01:07] <amphi> christopher: ok; now do sudo dpkg -i fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[01:08] <christopher> how do i copy and paste on this window?
[01:08] <christopher> only thing i can do is copy link
[01:08] <amphi> JloR: svgalib is good fun
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Ctrl-Shift-{C,V}
[01:08] <navarone> christopher, highlight text and pres ctrl-c
[01:08] <amphi> christopher: you should be able to select the text and then focus the terminal and do shift-insert
[01:08] <jhons2> tonyyarusso: i went through the installation proceess with Kubuntu then when it came to installing grub, i couldnt because it said it couldnt install it onto my MBR (i am installing Kubuntu on my slave HD)
[01:09] <amphi> christopher: highlight should be enough IMHO
[01:09] <JloR> amphi: thanks for the tip... I might look into that when I get time (that is, when I'm done playing with this dual-cpu thing and a few other servers running non-ubuntu). I'm off.
[01:09] <christopher> ahh cool
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Thought you meant a terminal window.
[01:09] <christopher> i like the insert option
[01:09] <navarone> jhons you can install grub on floppy  /dev/fd0
[01:09] <christopher> k its reading databases
[01:09] <jhons2> ya but i cant get into linux
[01:09] <ilmio> hello
[01:10] <christopher> uhoh
[01:10] <christopher> got an error
[01:10] <navarone> jhons did install finish okay?
[01:10] <jhons2> yes
[01:10] <christopher> well it got thru some of the process
[01:10] <amphi> christopher: "O Liability! I do disclaim thee!" ;)
[01:10] <christopher> lol
[01:10] <ilmio> excuseme i must edit the initialization string for thr modem device but i dont now where is located the fle that contain this string can somebody help me please?
[01:11] <navarone> jhons2 did you install on same drive as windows?
[01:11] <amphi> christopher: what was the error? please only paste the relevant line
[01:11] <christopher> it says... flubox depends on menu (>=2.1.19) ; however:
[01:11] <jhons2> navarone: no
[01:11] <christopher> package menu is not installed
[01:11] <christopher> dpkg: error processing fluxbox (--install):
[01:11] <amphi> christopher: ok, no worries; try sudo apt-get install menu
[01:11] <jhons2> navarone: but i restarted and it went into windows and now i dont even see my slave drive
[01:12] <amphi> christopher: apt-get deals with dependencies, but dpkg doesn't
[01:12] <christopher> oh that sudo command..
[01:12] <christopher> does that mean switch user do or super user do
[01:12] <christopher> its like a root bypass right?
[01:12] <Seveas> christopher, silly user do
[01:12] <amphi> christopher: in this case, super user do
[01:12] <navarone> jhons2, you can no longer see the slave drive cos it is formatted in linux file system and windows does not recognize it
[01:12] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[01:13] <jhons2> navarone: ok how do i get back into linux?
[01:13] <christopher> ok i typed sudo apt-get install menu
[01:13] <christopher> still going
[01:14] <christopher> ok its setting up i think
[01:14] <christopher> or already did im back at my command prompt
[01:14] <navarone> jhons2, you should be able to boot with the ubuntu cd and I think type rescue at prompt. That will get a "live" linux going and you can then install grub to floppy...are you using windows now I take it?
[01:14] <amphi> christopher: ok, up arrow until you get the sudo dpkg command back, and hit enter
[01:15] <jhons2> navarone: i am using windows xp now
[01:15] <judgen> Hi again
[01:15] <christopher> oh the first one
[01:15] <batman> can someone help me i'm trying to get the graphic libraries installed for php and i tried imagick php5-gd and neither have worked
[01:15] <amphi> christopher: yeah
[01:15] <jhons2> navarone:  when i get back into linux what do i do to install grub on a floppy
[01:15] <christopher> sudo dpkg -i fluxbox.etc...
[01:16] <amphi> christopher: yup
[01:16] <christopher> so scroll up that and just hit enter?
[01:16] <christopher> oh wow
[01:16] <amphi> christopher: up arrow back throuh the command history to it, and hit enter
[01:16] <christopher> i didnt know it saved all the commands
[01:16] <amphi> christopher: the shell is a garden of delights ;)
[01:17] <christopher> yes it is
[01:17] <amphi> Seveas: are you a ubuntu dev?
[01:17] <christopher> im 25 and i always wanted to learn what linux was about
[01:17] <Dasnipa`> its about being free as in beer
[01:17] <christopher> took me 7 years to get and start to put time into it
[01:17] <amphi> Dasnipa`: as in "information wants to be beer" ? ;)
[01:17] <Seveas> amphi, so far I've successfully avoided becoming one - this will not last forever I'm afraid
[01:17] <Dasnipa`> yeah
[01:17] <christopher> amphi so i take its installed now
[01:18] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[01:18] <Chris_Tucker> christopher, only took me 1 year :P
 took me 7 years to get and start to put time into it <-- cool!
[01:18] <amphi> christopher: if dpkg completed without error, yeah
[01:18] <christopher> lol
[01:18] <Seveas> hrm, wrong line...
 Dasnipa`: as in "information wants to be beer" ? ;) <-- THAT is cool :)
[01:18] <christopher> hey college got in the way people
[01:18] <christopher> i didnt have time to mess around with the computer like that
[01:18] <amphi> christopher: I find it better to put off the procrastination until nearer the time
[01:18] <phiber_optic> I have one problem...when I log into my universities ssh server and I run matlab when I click enter nothing happens.. It seems like enter, backspace is disabled...
[01:18] <phiber_optic> but when I log in from windows it works...
[01:18] <christopher> i even took a c++ programming class to help me get into it
[01:19] <amphi> Seveas: someone's .sig on k5 IIRC, not my own sadly
[01:19] <batman> does anyone know where i can get the graphic libraries for php? i tried imagick and php5-gd
[01:19] <Seveas> php5-gd should work
[01:19] <christopher> ok so now i fluxbox.. i take it. that its better than enlightenment
[01:19] <elkbuntu> providing you have php5 installed, not php4
[01:19] <Seveas> depends on what you mean by better
[01:19] <batman> Seveas, well my script says call to undefined for imagecreate
[01:19] <navarone> jhons2, boot from install cd and you can get a functioning live linux going. However I am fuzzy on what you really have to do then. I am not sure if you must mount the ubuntu partition after making a directory to mount it in or simply go to a terminla and type "grub install fd0". Perhaps someone else could provide further info there...?
[01:20] <batman> elkbuntu, yes i have php 5 installed
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: fluxbox is quite minimalist
[01:20] <ilmio> nobody can help me ?
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: I use openbox
[01:20] <christopher> better than gnome that is seveas
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: which is similar
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: 'better' is in the eye of the beholder
[01:21] <christopher> ok another prob
[01:21] <Seveas> amphi, and beauty is in the eye of the beerholder
[01:21] <motionblur> hi I've finally installed ubuntu on my pc, but I'm sadly back on xp because I can't get my network connection to work (I'm on a nat, my card is a rtl8139). can you help me please?
[01:21] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[01:21] <christopher> i went thru ubuntu documentation and wiki
[01:21] <christopher> and i still cant get realplayer10GOLD.bin to install
[01:21] <jhons2> navarone: thanks alot for your help! i found further info on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622
[01:21] <ipr> hi people , could any body please direct me to a web page that would help me install my lexmark Z611 in ubuntu ..thanks
[01:21] <_jason> christopher: I'd suggest not even bothering with it and just using mplayer with w32codecs
[01:22] <navarone> jhons2, good going...lol
[01:22] <navarone> jhons2, maybe easier to have something like a how to printed off since you will be net less for the duration
[01:22] <christopher> you guys dont mind the stupid questions do you?
[01:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell ipr about print
[01:22] <phiber_optic> ??
[01:22] <jhons2> navarone: thanks again- you got me pointed there!
[01:22] <_jason> christopher: that's why we come here
[01:22] <Mordof> question: i wanna upgrade to dapper or w/e it is, i have my /home dir on a seperate harddrive, can i get rid of ubuntu and install that without effecting my /home, but have dapper use it?
[01:22] <ipr> thanks jason
[01:22] <christopher> im  excited to just be using this and learning all this stuff hah
[01:23] <christopher> ok this is really really basic
[01:23] <navarone> jhons2, just take your time...it isn't a big deal really...just a simple operation
[01:23] <phbc50> motionblur > NAT meaning behing a Router ?
[01:23] <Seveas> christopher, we live for stupid questions :)
[01:23] <christopher> directories... how do they go?
[01:23] <Seveas> christopher, by foot
[01:23] <christopher> lol
[01:23] <_jason> I don't get the question or the answer...
[01:23] <christopher> i mean. im used to windows.. my documents. my shared files, my downloads, my pictures etc
[01:24] <amphi> christopher: you might find the 'intro to linux' book at tldp.org useful
[01:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about dirs
[01:24] <christopher> and of course the oh so famous program files directory which is where i dled everything to in windows
[01:24] <Seveas> christopher, ah :) google for FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard)
[01:24] <amphi> christopher: /usr/bin
[01:24] <christopher> well
[01:24] <christopher> heres what i do know
[01:24] <navarone> christopher everything's me me me with you...;)
[01:24] <christopher> home directory is the main directory and that i should just stick with that
[01:24] <Seveas> yes
[01:24] <nick01> can somebody tell me why do I get a firewall error in azureus if now firewall is enabled by default ?
[01:24] <christopher> but then the /etc /usr and /var are jus sitting there looking at me
[01:24] <phiber_optic> what is the command to simulate enter?
[01:25] <phiber_optic> like backspace is ctrl h
[01:25] <flummoxed> i just used wine to install Steam, but I can't figure out how to run Steam. it says use .wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/, but apparently that doesn't exist
[01:25] <Seveas> christopher, all programs are installed there :)
[01:25] <amphi> christopher: you're using stuff in them all the time, unbeknownst to yourself
[01:25] <christopher> navarone... and im not an only child heh
[01:25] <navarone> nick01, I think iptables is enabled by default...isn't it? anyone?
[01:25] <flummoxed> anyone know where wine installs stuff to?
[01:25] <nick01> navarone, how do I get rid of it ?
[01:25] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, c:\Program Files (or even having c:\ and d:\) is an utterly broken concept
[01:25] <Delvien> ah crap my udev is updateing...
[01:26] <christopher> ok so when i dl a program ... i should get used to installing them to /usr/bin?
[01:26] <Delvien> why the heck am i upgrading to xorg7?
[01:26] <nick01> nick01@T72:~$ ps aux |grep iptables
[01:26] <nick01> nick01    7817  0.0  0.3   3796   756 pts/0    S+   02:26   0:00 grep iptables
[01:26] <Seveas> christopher, no
[01:26] <motionblur> phbc50: yes
[01:26] <_jason> christopher: you should let the package manager do all that for you, all you do is ask it to install X
[01:26] <Seveas> christopher, you should get used to not manually downloading :)
[01:26] <amphi> Seveas: as is having file extensions determine executability, and ... and ...
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> christopher: No, you should use apt-get instead and never do anything yourself, 'cause that would take effort and would be silly.
[01:26] <christopher> oh
[01:26] <nick01> navarone, ps aux doesn't report iptables
[01:26] <flummoxed> does anyone know where wine installs stuff to?
[01:26] <Seveas> amphi, oh, we could go on for hours but that is just as pointless as all the things we'll say :)
[01:27] <christopher> lol so used to going to sites clicking the link and unraring something
[01:27] <Seveas> flummoxed, ~/.wine/fake_c_drive/ oslt
[01:27] <motionblur> phbc50: behind a router, but I'm in a nat network
[01:27] <navarone> nick01, you should keep iptables...I doubt you can even uninstall it...but you can use a prog like firestarter to configure it so that programs can get access to certain ports and such
[01:27] <amphi> christopher: apt-get should have pretty much everything you need
[01:27] <christopher> now apt-get is an alternative to synpatic package manager
[01:27] <flummoxed> is that the actual directory?
[01:27] <Seveas> christopher, think out of the box - think of everything that sucks about that and consider it not to be there in Ubuntu
[01:27] <tatters> who actually reads to make sure its fine?
[01:27] <christopher> and it will always have what i need?
[01:27] <amphi> christopher: yes, synaptic is a later incarnation
[01:27] <tatters> lol sry
[01:27] <Seveas> christopher, 95% of the time
[01:27] <nick01> navarone, u mean there's a firewall enabled ? I wanna get ridof it ! now !
[01:27] <_jason> christopher: that would be pretty difficult, for example beer is not in there afaik, maybe in a secret repo somewhere
[01:28] <Seveas> with a few very annoying but well-documented exceptions
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Synaptic is a frontend to apt.
[01:28] <amphi> christopher: time will tell, but you should rarely need anything else
[01:28] <Seveas> !find beer
[01:28] <tatters> who actually reads source to make sure its fine
[01:28] <batman> so can someone help me with my issue on getting the graphics libraries for php 5 and php5-gd doesn't work
[01:28] <navarone> !iptables
[01:28] <christopher> so if i wanted to get a program like glets...
[01:28] <christopher> whoops
[01:28] <christopher> desklets
[01:28] <elkbuntu> batman you -could- try the php channel here on freenode
[01:28] <Seveas> !+find beer
[01:28] <christopher> how would i search apt-get to get it for me
[01:28] <Seveas> elkbuntu, it's clearly an Ubuntu problem....
[01:28] <_jason> christopher: apt-cache search gdesklets
[01:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'beer' (5 shown; 30 total): (/usr/share/calc/beer.cal) in universe/math/apcalc-common ;; (/usr/share/emoticons/Default/beer.png) in libs/kdelibs-data ;; (/usr/share/overkill/grx/beer.avi) in universe/games/overkill ;; (/usr/share/apps/kmess/emoticons/beer.png) in universe/kde/kmess ;; (/usr/share/gajim/data/emoticons/beer.png) in universe/net/gajim.
[01:28] <Seveas> christopher, apt-cache search
[01:29] <amphi> christopher: apt-cache search gdesklets
[01:29] <motionblur> I've finally installed ubuntu on my pc, but I can't get my network connection to work (I'm on a nat, my card is a rtl8139). can you help me?
[01:29] <christopher> brilliant
[01:29] <flummoxed> i just used wine to install Steam, but I can't figure out how to run Steam. it says use .wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/, but apparently that doesn't exist. how can i start Steam?
[01:29] <_jason> ok, proven wrong...
[01:29] <christopher> love this chat room
[01:29] <Seveas> batman, did you restart apache after installing php5-gd?
[01:29] <phiber_optic> does anyone know the carriage return command for unix instead of just pressing enter?
[01:29] <christopher> do you know it would take a day to get that answer on a forum
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> christopher: And when you find the package, it's as easy as sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[01:29] <hyperactivecrond> flummoxed: you should've used Cedega
[01:29] <hyperactivecrond> !tell flummoxed about cedega
[01:29] <nick01> !firewall
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[01:29] <flummoxed> cedega = costs money
[01:29] <amphi> christopher: that should give you the package name; apt-cache show <package_name> will give more info about the package, and apt-get install <package_name> will do what you expect
[01:30] <elkbuntu> hmm that is strange then.. however, php5 did have some gd problems a few months back, i know because i ran into them when trying to use a photo blog package... i believe pixelpost
[01:30] <amphi> christopher: s/chat\ room/channel ;)
[01:30] <Mordof> how do i get out of X again?
[01:30] <navarone> nick01, are you using Blackdown java?
[01:30] <amphi> Mordof: alt-ctrl=backspace to exit violently
[01:30] <Mordof> amphi, that reloads
[01:30] <nick01> navarone, whatever java came with 5.10
[01:31] <bimberi> Mordof: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:31] <christopher> whats the s/chat\ room channel?
[01:31] <Mordof> bimberi, thx
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> nick01: Java doesn't come with Ubuntu.
[01:31] <Goldfisch> Mordof: Are you using Gnome? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:31] <_jason> christopher: huh?
[01:31] <nick01> gcj or whatever
[01:31] <ClayG> anyone here use mambo or joomla?
[01:31] <Seveas> christopher, it's a very geeky way to say that this is not a chat room but a channel
[01:31] <navarone> nick01, I think you need the Sun java version to use azureus
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> christopher: It means you should call it a channel, not a chat room.
[01:31] <bimberi> Mordof: np :)
[01:31] <nick01> anyway ubuntu works
[01:31] <amphi> christopher: means the term is 'channel' not 'chat room', which is some aol abomination
[01:31] <christopher> lol
[01:31] <christopher> ok ok ok
[01:31] <nick01> navarone, but azureus starts fine
[01:31] <spinelli> lkj
[01:31] <Seveas> amphi, keep the foul language to yourself please :)
[01:31] <christopher> all i see is red font
[01:31] <christopher> lol
[01:31] <tatters> if I created my own repos and in a room told someone to add it their source list could I in theory alter some packages for my own gains which they would be unaware of?
[01:31] <eugman> Hey there is a descrepancy between my shared folders and what shows up on the network.
[01:32] <christopher> i need to get used to the new terms
[01:32] <Seveas> tatters, yes
[01:32] <amphi> Seveas: sorry, some $ISP abomination ;)
[01:32] <navarone> nick01, then you simply cannot connect to anyone?
[01:32] <christopher> packages instead of zip files
[01:32] <Delvien> Anyone know what package i need for this error while compiling? checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:32] <hyperactivecrond> export $ISP=aol
[01:32] <christopher> apps instead of programs
[01:32] <amphi> christopher: zip files are archives compress with zip ;)
[01:32] <Seveas> Delvien, apt-get install intltool libxml-parser-perl
[01:32] <nick01> navarone, yup ;(
[01:32] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, ditch the $ there or it won't work
[01:33] <christopher> ok now heres another common question
[01:33] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, and given that it's aol it won't work anyway :)
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: realized right after i typed it :)
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> lol
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> s/lol/heh
[01:33] <christopher> KDE is the fluxbox?
[01:33] <elkbuntu> seveas you beat me to it
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> that's another aol ism
[01:33] <hd420> I installed socat, tor, and privoxy... then removed them because they messed up ssh, now apt-get isn't updating itself
[01:33] <Seveas> christopher, no
[01:33] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, no the aolism is LOLOLOL!!!11!!!@!
[01:33] <amphi> hyperactivecrond: shell variables are preceded by $ except for assignment, in keeping with unix's consistency ;(
[01:33] <Delvien> seveas thanks, will be coming with more :P
[01:33] <navarone> nick01, do all your torrents stay yellow?
[01:33] <herni> hello
[01:33] <christopher> because i know theres GNOME and KDE and ppl prefer certain ones. but KDE is the Linus Torvals fav
[01:33] <nick01> navarone, they stay red
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> !tell christopher about fluxbox
[01:34] <Seveas> christopher, torvalds should stick to kernel hacking
[01:34] <hyperactivecrond> !tell christopher about kde
[01:34] <Mordof> ok, so I installed gcc 3.4, but the nvidia drivers still say its using 4.0 by default, how do i tell it to use 3.4?
[01:34] <amphi> christopher: linux doesn't like framebuffer console, which shows how much he knows ;)
[01:34] <Seveas> Mordof, export CC=gcc-3.4
[01:34] <eugman> Hey what can do I need to delete so when I reinstall samba the settings will be blank?
[01:34] <elkbuntu> seveas, zomfg ur so rite LOLOLOLOOLL!!!!!!111one
[01:34] <christopher> i wish i knew what that was lol
[01:34] <Seveas> that was one too much
[01:34] <Mordof> Seveas, where do i type that.. in the installation or terminal or what
[01:35] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me please? When i ssh to my university server I cant use enter key or backsapce on matlab any ideas?
[01:35] <elkbuntu> :P
[01:35] <amphi> christopher: hi res text console by putting the video card into a graphics mode
[01:35] <hyperactivecrond> Mordof: in a shell
[01:35] <christopher> well i was just in this hub on DC++ and this guyy totally flamed me for using ubuntu
[01:35] <Mordof> in a shell?
[01:35] <Seveas> Mordof, just before you eecute the installer
[01:35] <Mordof> Seveas, ok
[01:35] <christopher> actually for using linux
[01:35] <christopher> and that he used openbsd
[01:35] <Seveas> hehe
[01:35] <amphi> christopher: *shrug*
[01:35] <Delvien> Seveas either im confused or just plain dumb .....Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[01:35] <Delvien> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[01:35] <navarone> nick01, try this entry http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4089.html  <-- look for entry that starts "after head scratching..."
[01:35] <Delvien> woops..
[01:35] <Seveas> bsd just smells funny :)
[01:35] <amphi> christopher: the response to such is "bsd is dying" ;)
[01:36] <Eleaf> hi
[01:36] <judgen> How do i mount a ntfs partition? and how do i add it to automount? mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1   ?
[01:36] <christopher> so i figure i have alot of learning to do if im struggling with a user friendly distro with a userfriendly desktop
[01:36] <Seveas> !tell judgen about ntfs
[01:36] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: maybe we should put the consequences for excessive bot crap in teh ubotu usage wikipage?
[01:36] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, feel free to do so
[01:36] <judgen> nice
[01:36] <christopher> oh well i told him to eat a certain body part
[01:36] <Seveas> rofl
[01:36] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: wiki account's disabled... ++ me
[01:36] <Goldfisch> eugman: dpkg -P <thepackage> <---- it will remove the packages, and also any config files
[01:36] <_jason> christopher: ah I have the perfect thing for you to read.  Someone told me about it the other day and I wish I had seen it when I started.  i'll have the bot send you a link
[01:36] <yodebian> l
[01:36] <amphi> christopher: the learning curve can be steep at first; there are a lot of useful docs at tldp.org amongst many places
[01:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about rute
[01:37] <christopher> i had the linux for dummies boox
[01:37] <Seveas> the rute book is gread
[01:37] <Seveas> great even
[01:37] <christopher> and the desktop manual that goes with it
[01:37] <christopher> but i cant find them.. packed away
[01:37] <nick01> navarone, THANK YOU !
[01:37] <navarone> nick01, hope it works
[01:37] <christopher> so i just been reading ubuntu forums, linux distro, linux forums. linuxquestions.org
[01:38] <Mordof> ok, i tried that.. now it says it cannot find the kernal source files
[01:38] <Seveas> christopher, books are usually written with red hat or one of its clones in mind
[01:38] <christopher> yeah thats what i heard
[01:38] <elkbuntu> do you have the kernel headers installed?
[01:38] <christopher> so they dont help much
[01:38] <Mordof> elkbuntu, no idea, how do i check :p
[01:38] <Seveas> christopher, add to that list: help.ubuntu.com / wiki.ubuntu.com and you'll be fine :)
[01:38] <amphi> christopher: there is also the debian reference at debian.org, much of which applies to ubuntu
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> Oh, btw, my O'Reilly books actually cater to Ubuntu.
[01:38] <_jason> tonyyarusso: really, which ones>
[01:39] <navarone> christopher, google is your friend and never complains that you ask the same questions over and over. I should know
[01:39] <christopher> ok if i switch to fluxbox right now will i be able to get back into this room umm i mean channel
[01:39] <Delvien> Anyone know what i should do with this ?  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[01:39] <Delvien> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[01:39] <_jason> christopher: what irc client are you using now?
[01:39] <christopher> yeah i know.. i did that alot but kept getting bad search results that didnt help me or were slightly different
[01:39] <tatters> 49 % of zombie pc are linux machines Y is that?
[01:39] <madgik85> im looking to install Compiz on my Ubuntu 5.10, so i believe I have to install X.org 7.0 ... is this stable to use?
[01:39] <hd420> why would apt-get update be failing to fetch packages?
[01:39] <amphi> christopher: should be able; right click on the root window for applications menu
[01:39] <christopher> xchat i guess?
[01:39] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me please? When i ssh to my university server I cant use enter key or backsapce on matlab any ideas?
[01:39] <Goldfisch> My FUD sensor is going off.....
[01:39] <christopher> im still in englightenment
[01:40] <amphi> christopher: if you can't find xchat, try typing xchat in a terminal window
[01:40] <elkbuntu> check in synaptic and see if linux-headers 2.6.12-10-386 (presuming you're using the 2.6.12-10-386 kernel) is installed
[01:40] <christopher> and i cant do anything here it sucks
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Linux Desktop Pocket Guide, and my other, Linux Desktop Hacks, seems good for everything.
[01:40] <hd420> phiber_optic: man stty
[01:40] <christopher> ok then what
[01:40] <carpediem> christopher: yeah, it'll be there.  Right click on the fluxbox desktop
[01:40] <madgik85> i mean if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:40] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ah did you mean they mention ubuntu, or they were just very helpful to you?
[01:40] <navarone> christopher I think you'd like xfce if fluxbox doesn't float your boat
[01:40] <christopher> ok there are four tabs under this text box right now
[01:41] <amphi> christopher: what are you using for irc right now?
[01:41] <christopher> EFnet Ubuntu Servers #ubuntu and Ubotu
[01:41] <_jason> christopher: one is probably from 'ubotu' with some links people told him to send you
[01:41] <christopher> ok
[01:41] <christopher> so this is the #ubuntu channel
[01:41] <amphi> christopher: it is
[01:41] <elkbuntu> mmmm tasty.. dapper updates ordering me to reboot...see youse in a bit... hopefully
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> _jason: The Desktop Pocket Guide mentions a bunch, and then says that Ubuntu is really good and become quite popular, so it will be especially applicable to that for the remainder of the book.
[01:41] <_jason> tonyyarusso: that's cool
[01:41] <herni> i managed to do something to my gnome panel.. now firestarter and rhythmbox no longer minimize, if i click the close button they just..close. any ideas?
[01:42] <christopher> ok ill brb hopefully haha
[01:42] <yanimax> is it normal that mysql doesn't work with Ubuntu Dapper ? => ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[01:42] <SeyToN> can someone help me please?
[01:42] <Goldfisch> SeyToN: We need a little more than that. What do you need?
[01:43] <SeyToN> dpkg --install and deb file
[01:43] <SeyToN> it seems allready install but i dont know what to do next
[01:43] <Engla> anyone here got skippy-xd to work?
[01:43] <phiber_optic> hd420, so how will I use it.. Im new to linuix
[01:43] <phiber_optic> well fairly new
[01:43] <madgik85> i too would like some help, ... just to know if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10 ? help would be appriciated
[01:43] <Goldfisch> SeyToN: Installed what?
[01:43] <Seveas> herni, re-add the notification area to your panel
[01:43] <Engla> I'd love to get it to work, but after I built it, it just says "Can't connect to display" when I try it
[01:43] <SeyToN> frostlime
[01:44] <SeyToN> frostwire*
[01:44] <Mr_Smiley> hi
[01:44] <christopher> hello?
[01:44] <hd420> phiber_optic: put the stty incantation into your shell's startup file, no, I don't know what the correct options are and I have some trouble of my own to sort out, else  I'd love to figure it out
[01:45] <SeyToN> root@linux:/home/kevin/Desktop# dpkg --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[01:45] <SeyToN> Selecting previously deselected package frostwire.
[01:45] <SeyToN> (Reading database ... 61372 files and directories currently installed.)
[01:45] <SeyToN> Unpacking frostwire (from FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb) ...
[01:45] <SeyToN> Setting up frostwire (4.10.5-1) ...
[01:45] <SeyToN> whats next?
[01:45] <Goldfisch> SeyToN: I have never heard of that package. Don't what is supposed to be available after install.
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> SeyToN: Don't paste here.  Use !pastebin
[01:45] <hd420> grrr
[01:45] <Engla> SeyToN: it's installed
[01:46] <fooo> hi what is a good fgl_glxgears value on a ati mobility radeon?
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> seth|away: Running it unless there were errors setting up.
[01:46] <SeyToN> how do i run it?
[01:46] <SeyToN> ./frostwire?
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: the dependencies are not automatically installed, but try to run it
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: try 'frostwire'
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: but you can use synaptic to check the package's contents and what it installed
[01:46] <Goldfisch> Synaptic can give a readout on what files are installed. I don't know how to do it from command-line. Maybe SeyToN can get a readout telling him what is in /usr/bin.
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: optimally you should know from the source of the package what it contains and how you use it
[01:47] <SeyToN> nah i gotta install the java crap now :(\
[01:47] <recon00> How can I convert LaTeX files to another format?
[01:47] <amphi> christopher: no, you're not here
[01:47] <flummoxed> hey, how do i make it so that i have permission to write to a folder like TrueType? could i use a console command to be sudo and copy something to it?
[01:47] <christopher> hello
[01:47] <christopher> thank god
[01:47] <christopher> there you are
[01:47] <phiber_optic> hd420, dont you know the command for enter? like backspace is ctrl h
[01:47] <Goldfisch> Okay, time to cruise off the MLUG. Later.
[01:47] <amphi> christopher: where?
[01:47] <Engla> recon00: what do you want to do with them??
[01:47] <christopher> here
[01:47] <christopher> is this the room i was just in?
[01:47] <amphi> christopher: it is
[01:47] <hd420> phiber_optic: I don't have time to help you, I have problems of my own, mate, sorrry
[01:48] <Engla> recon00: normally you 'typeset' latex files into dvi or pdf format (this is the product you normally want to read)
[01:48] <Engla> recon00: then you can take that pdf/dvi and convert it with tools I don't know about
[01:48] <christopher> ok good
[01:48] <elkbuntu> well good news, dapper didnt break me :D
[01:48] <madgik85> any help would be appriciated, ... just to know if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10 ? thank you
[01:48] <christopher> alright im in flux so far i like it
[01:48] <christopher> its really really minimal
[01:48] <recon00> Engla: ?? I just downloaded .tex files to read, but i can't read them. simply put, i don't know how to read them, so i'm trying to convert them to a different format.
[01:48] <christopher> seems like it has the bes tof the best already picked out for you
[01:49] <fooo> hey 1551 frames in 5.0 seconds = 310.200 FPS in  fgl_glxgears would that be the wrong driver?
[01:49] <_jason> recon00: install tetex and run latex on them
[01:49] <ubuntu> hello all
[01:49] <carpediem> christopher: I like flux's tabbed features for the window manager
[01:50] <christopher> you mean how you right click on the desktop and everything is right there
[01:50] <hyperactivecrond> elkbuntu: which version?
[01:50] <carpediem> christopher: no.  Middle-click drag a window handle onto another window handle
[01:50] <Engla> recon00: Aha. You need to typeset them, to make pdfs. You need a very big package to do that though (tetex or an alternative), so the best thing would be to get your source to typeset it for you
[01:50] <Engla> recon00: or you could IM me the file, I could typeset it and then send you the pdf
[01:51] <Klohunt> Im confused on whether to learn java or C++ :|
[01:51] <xored> somone who can help me with hda_intel on a ubuntu brezzey with 15er kernel and newwest, modalr alsa drivers, which are all install all unmuteded but still no sound
[01:51] <elkbuntu> hyperactivecrond, dapper drake 6.04 the latest updates
[01:51] <hyperactivecrond> cool
[01:51] <carpediem> Klohunt: depends on what you want to do.
[01:51] <christopher> oh i know what you mean
[01:51] <hd420> anyone know why apt-get update would fail to fetch packages?
[01:51] <christopher> like mozillas tabbed feature
[01:51] <carpediem> christopher: yeah, sort of
[01:51] <christopher> i only have one window opened up right now
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Repos down?
[01:51] <Klohunt> general stuff: networking, some operating system related stuff
[01:51] <elkbuntu> hyperactivecrond, dapper is quite comfortably stable now, since it's nearing the end of the alpha cycle
[01:52] <hd420> tonyyarusso: doesn't seem to be, from another machine, the files retrieve fine
[01:52] <Klohunt> for example, what did Google use in making Google Desktop? C++?
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Updated?
[01:52] <carpediem> Klohunt: java is excellent for networking, c++ is better for "operating system stuff"
[01:52] <hd420> tonyyarusso: updated?
[01:52] <hd420> what do you mean updated?
[01:52] <christopher> for the windows manager tab...
[01:52] <hyperactivecrond> Klohunt: c++ - .net if you want to be rather portable
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> hd420: apt-get update recently?
[01:53] <christopher> one of the option is enlightenment, the next flux box and the third is metacity...
[01:53] <Klohunt> ok I see
[01:53] <hd420> tonyyarusso: that's what's failing
[01:53] <madgik85> any help would be appriciated, ... just to know if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10 ? thank you
[01:53] <carpediem> hyperactivecrond: um...your definition of portable is questionable to say the least
[01:53] <Engla> madgik85: v7 is not in Ubuntu 5.10
[01:53] <Klohunt> and as of today, which langauge is more popular? (as in more programmers)
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Ah, 'k.
[01:53] <christopher> this isnt to switch to the different desktops is it?
[01:53] <christopher> i thought cntrl alt backspace did that
[01:53] <Engla> Klohunt: hard to say, both java and c++ have lots and lots and lots of developers
[01:53] <hyperactivecrond> carpediem: carpediem: s/reasonably/remotely
[01:53] <Klohunt> My ubuntu disks may have been lost in the mail :O
[01:53] <christopher> oh wow it does
[01:53] <hd420> tonyyarusso: any suggestions?
[01:53] <ubuntu> is there something wrong with installing windows after ubuntu?
[01:54] <madgik85> Engla ... i dont mean if its in Ubuntu 5.10, i mean if i upgrade to it, would it be stable and run properly?
[01:54] <Klohunt> I see
[01:54] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu: ntldr will overwrite grub
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> hd420: But the rest of internet things works I take it.  Have you had success on this machine recently or is it a new install?
[01:54] <ubuntu> hyperactivecrond, thanks
[01:54] <ubuntu> exit
[01:54] <christopher> crap
[01:54] <ubuntu> oops
[01:54] <christopher> got stuck in enlightenment again
[01:54] <Klohunt> did anyone else wait 9 weeks for their disks to arrive?
[01:54] <coz> hello anyone here using dapper?
[01:55] <Klohunt> I hope they come soon :D
[01:55] <hd420> tonyyarusso: I installed tor, privoxy, and socat, which broke ssh, so I removed them and apt stopped updating
[01:55] <christopher> anyone know a command to put in terminal to switch back to fluxbox without closing my irc session
[01:55] <ggoodman> I can't seem to get fglrx to work (radeon mobility 9200).. when i start x using the fglrx driver, the screen gets massively corrupted and mostly freezes
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> coz: why did you install dapper X\
[01:55] <elkbuntu> coz yes
[01:55] <carpediem> Klohunt: I'd say for getting a job, java/.net.  For hacking, c/c++
[01:55] <coz> yes i have it installed
[01:55] <hd420> before installing those 3, things were working fine
[01:55] <Engla> madgik85: aha. I don't know, perhaps. I use a CVS build but it reports as "X Window System Version 6.9.0 (Minimal DRI build from X.org tree)"
[01:55] <coz> well I have one complaint
[01:55] <coz> I am not sure who is responsible
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> hd420: I've got nothing.
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> coz: why? it's not stable yet
[01:55] <thetruth> !sudo
[01:55] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> coz: ask away though
[01:55] <Klohunt> thanks carpediem.. I asked because on Google's Jobs page it has openings for C++ and Java programmers
[01:55] <flummoxed> hey, whats the syntax for the cp command? cp <file you want to copy> SPACE <destination folder> ?
[01:55] <Klohunt> I only know Delphi :P
[01:55] <coz> well it's ok it is getting cloe to release time
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> !tell thetruth about msgthebot
[01:56] <Seveas> flummoxed, yup
[01:56] <_jason> flummoxed: yes, try man cp too
[01:56] <hd420> tonyyarusso: that's hardly helpful, mate :)
[01:56] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[01:56] <hyperactivecrond> coz: if it crashes, don't blame us. it's not stable yet
[01:56] <coz> no my complaint is that when you boot into dapper it has that old mac "busy" curosr that damn clock
[01:56] <flummoxed> man cp?
[01:56] <carpediem> Klohunt: well, Google is a pretty hard place to get a job
[01:56] <elkbuntu> lol
[01:56] <madgik85> Engla ... ok, well ill have a go, if it works it works, otherwise :(  ... :) thanks for help
[01:56] <_jason> flummoxed: put 'man cp' in your terminal and it will give you the manual
[01:56] <hd420> carpediem: they wanted to hire me, I told them to piss off
[01:56] <elkbuntu> that's your complaint?
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Yeah, I know.  Was hoping for something else for your problem.
[01:56] <Engla> madgik85: good luck
[01:56] <Klohunt> Yeah :( Thankfully I have enough time to practice before  I apply (Senior in high school)
[01:57] <carpediem> hd420: I didn't say impossible....hard
[01:57] <coz> If anyone here is responsibel for that dam mac clock busy cursor PLEASE get rid of it
[01:57] <Klohunt> hd420, I heard it was a nice place to work?
[01:57] <hd420> carpediem: it's not that hard to get into google, mate
[01:57] <hyperactivecrond> coz: blame the artwork team
[01:57] <hd420> Klohunt: I never started working there
[01:57] <elkbuntu> coz and grow up
[01:57] <coz> I would if i could contact them
[01:57] <navarone> carpediem, yeah you'd think some of the millionaires still in their cubilcles would quit and live a little and give someone else a job...lol
[01:57] <_jason> coz: what would you rather have?
[01:57] <coz> elkbuntu what?????
[01:57] <elkbuntu> coz, ubuntuforums.org
[01:57] <Robocision> Hello again
[01:57] <Klohunt> I hear people ride around on mopeds in the Googleplex
[01:57] <coz> I liked the breezy busy circle
[01:57] <hyperactivecrond> seveas: nice add to ubotu :)
[01:58] <carpediem> hd420: yeah, but he's not going to learn Java today, and get a job at Google tomorrow.....
[01:58] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, ?
[01:58] <Robocision> Okay, it seems when i installed Ubuntu, it already installed the correct alsa for my Audigy Gamer.  I still have no sound.  What can I do?  It all shows up in my device manager.
[01:58] <hd420> coz: send them your resume, I got a phone interview an hour after I sent it in to the jobs email.
[01:58] <coz> elkbuntu I hope I grow up just like you
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> !goirish
[01:58] <ubotu> Go Irish! Beat Orangemen!
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> it says you added that seveas
[01:58] <coz> hd420 really great
[01:58] <hd420> carpediem: you don't need Java to get hired
[01:58] <Seveas> hehe, it's an old one, i just corrected it :)
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> :)
[01:58] <Klohunt> hd420: what do you need, C++?
[01:58] <Seveas> one of the few tolerated crap entries :)
[01:58] <carpediem> ugh, forget it.
[01:59] <hd420> Klohunt: you need a brain to know that languages are irrelevant to work
[01:59] <hd420> :)
[01:59] <hyperactivecrond> no, people, don't bloat ubotu... we don't want to call him ubloatu
[01:59] <Klohunt> oh, and , I have a descent amount of years before even applying :(
[01:59] <eugman> Hey any idea why when I try to get to my computer website from ym ip I get asked for a password for wrt54g or something but when I use 127.0.0.1 it's fine?] 
[01:59] <Robocision> Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get sound?
[01:59] <coz> Just tried to install houdini on my breezy machine with an amd k7 processor
[01:59] <coz>  no go
[01:59] <eugman> I'me bhind a router if that might be the cause
[01:59] <coz> no sse
[01:59] <hyperactivecrond> hd420: #include <iostream>; using namespace std; int work (void)
[01:59] <Klohunt> Yes hd420, but I am pretty proficient in Delphi, but when I look at C++ code I get confused
[01:59] <hd420> I applied 6 months before graduating from college
[01:59] <Klohunt> so if a group was doing a C++ project, I would have to kno wmy way around the languge
[01:59] <hyperactivecrond> klohunt: take a class on it
[01:59] <Robocision> Okay, it seems when i installed Ubuntu, it already installed the correct alsa for my Audigy Gamer.  I still have no sound.  What can I do?
[02:00] <hd420> Klohunt: then you need to learn programming theory, not C++
[02:00] <Robocision> :(  Linux is hard for coddled windows boys like myself.
[02:00] <Klohunt> I see
[02:00] <tatters> hmm Y does ubotu support terroism?
[02:00] <flummoxed> whats the folder name for the File System? like ~/<File System>
[02:00] <hd420> languages are a fad
[02:00] <hyperactivecrond> flummoxed: ?
[02:00] <wvelez> hi...is there a rar password cracker for ubuntu? thanks
[02:00] <carpediem> Klohunt: my advice is try to get a job doing C++ or Java, and after you do that for a while, consider Google.  They won't hire you to do Java with no Java experience.
[02:00] <coz> Robosicsion do you have ll the libs etc installed?
[02:00] <Klohunt> and aren't Java and C++ similar anyway?
[02:00] <kwewu14> i have a barton cpu, should i use k7 or 686 kernel?
[02:00] <flummoxed> like... im trying to copy a font to the true type folder
[02:00] <_jason> flummoxed: it's just /
[02:00] <hyperactivecrond> wvelez: no h4ck1ng jere [;ease
[02:00] <flummoxed> but its telling me the folder doesnt exist
[02:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell flummoxed about fonts
[02:01] <spinelli>              /msg nickserv set hide email on
[02:01] <spinelli> opps
[02:01] <coz> Robosicsion type alsamixer in terminal
[02:01] <Robocision> coz I just installed Ubuntu and the card and alsa appears under my device manager.  I don't know what ll is. :(
[02:01] <flummoxed> ~/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
[02:01] <flummoxed>  is the directory im trying to get it to
[02:01] <tatters> ubtou! terrorism
[02:01] <kwewu14> -=-=-=[ i have a barton cpu, should i use k7 or 686 kernel? ] =-=-=-
[02:01] <_jason> flummoxed: ~ is the same as /home/username
[02:01] <tatters> eh
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> eh.
[02:02] <elkbuntu> ooh yay my partitions are back on the desktop
[02:02] <coz> robocision fo to terminal type alsamixer and see if anything is muted or volume is down
[02:02] <_jason> flummoxed: see the link the bot sent you on installing fonts
[02:02] <eipipuz> hi, does anyone knows about webcams? I'm trying to install a genius gf112...
[02:02] <Seveas> kwewu14, whatever you do, don't do such annoying things again
[02:02] <yanimax> on Dapper, mysql 5.0 works when I install it, but not after a reboot, i have to reinstall to make it work again, does someone have the solution ?
[02:02] <cdubya> anyone using a gmail account and able to check it using a regular mail client?
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> !wiki webcams
[02:02] <yanimax> I get this => ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[02:02] <elkbuntu> eipipuz do a google search for spca5xx and see if it's listed as supported
[02:02] <tatters> ubotu! terrorism
[02:02] <Seveas> cdubya, you need to activate that in the gmail settings
[02:02] <_jason> cdubya: I have in the past, why?
[02:02] <coz> eipipuz I have a logitech orbit what is the problem
[02:02] <judgen> How do i remove that annoying bar on ot of the screen that looks like osx crap. (kubuntu)
[02:02] <kwewu14> Seveas: you are useless.
[02:02] <meshe> yanimax: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> tatters: ?!?
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> kwewu14: bad move
[02:02] <christopher> hey guys can you send me those links again?
[02:03] <Robocision> coz, turned everything up in alsamixer and still nothing. :(
[02:03] <jhons2> Cam i get some help from someone on how to use GRUB with a floppy?
[02:03] <flummoxed> what do i do if the fonts folder tells me i dont have permission to write to it?
[02:03] <flummoxed> i cant change that with the properties
[02:03] <coz> robocision NOT everything
[02:03] <hd420> looks like I broke apt
[02:03] <cdubya> Seveas, k. kewl. thanks, jason_, cause my ISP seems to be experiencing technical difficulties that they weren't adept to at this point....
[02:03] <cappiz> someone here good with unionfs?
[02:03] <eipipuz> I got the spca5xx driver, made it, however it fails to modprobe.
[02:03] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: can i /msg you?
[02:03] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, always :)
[02:03] <Robocision> what should I have?  Thanks for helpin, btw
[02:03] <eipipuz> does ubuntu comes with video4linux support?
[02:03] <_jason> flummoxed: do you bother to read the links people send you? you can just put it in ~/.fonts
[02:03] <tatters> ubotu just encouraged terroism by telling to go beat orangemen
[02:03] <ubotu> tatters: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:03] <Seveas> eipipuz, yes
[02:03] <cdubya> Seveas, don't suppose that will be straightforward from what I saw when I tried to sign up...........?
 it doesn't work better
[02:04] <cdubya> :)
[02:04] <flummoxed> i did, but it wont let me write to it
[02:04] <Seveas> cdubya, you don't sign up, you need an invitation :)
[02:04] <meshe> yanimax: what did it say when you entered that comand?
[02:04] <_jason> flummoxed: you can't write to ~/.fonts??
[02:04] <tatters> obviously a refrence to northern ireland conflict
[02:04] <cdubya> Seveas, umm, ok.
[02:04] <hyperactivecrond> sudo chmod +x ~/.fonts
 Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...already running.
[02:04] <cdubya> great, now I just gotta find someone to invite me.
[02:04] <tatters> or is there some other kinda orangemen I am unaware of of?
[02:04] <cdubya> :)
[02:05] <flummoxed> ah, was trying to write to the usr/share/fonts
[02:05] <Seveas> cdubya, if you want one pm me your current address ;)
 nor special error msg, even with 'restart'
[02:05] <Robocision> coz, NOT everything?
[02:05] <navarone> tatters more likely a football reference
[02:05] <hyperactivecrond> !tell kwewu14 about coc
[02:05] <coz> Robocision No sending you the pics would be alot of upload/download
[02:05] <flummoxed> im trying to install a microsoft font that will be used with Steam though... will this work right?
[02:05] <_jason> flummoxed: when you can, it's always better not to mess with stuff outside your $HOME
[02:05] <elkbuntu> eipipuz, ge122 or gf122?
[02:05] <coz> let me check hold on
[02:06] <meshe> yanimax: is it checked in rcconf?
[02:06] <Robocision> I got the little infinity sign under some too.
[02:06] <xored> somone who can help me with hda_intel on a ubuntu brezzey with 15er kernel and newwest, modalr alsa drivers, which are all install all unmuteded but still no sound
[02:06] <_jason> flummoxed: I would try it first and see, I don't know how nice steam plays with linux
[02:06] <elkbuntu> eipipuz, err ge112 or gf112?
[02:06] <xored> somone who can help me with hda_intel on a ubuntu brezzey with 15er kernel and newwest, modalr alsa drivers, which are all install all unmuteded but still no sound
[02:06] <purpleheart_USMC> Is there a GUI program that rips CD's and puts them in mp3 fomat?
[02:06] <tatters> thnk god there not a team called niggers then
 what do you mean ?
[02:06] <eipipuz> gf
[02:06] <purpleheart_USMC> I want mp3's to use on my ipod
[02:06] <meshe> run rcconf
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> tatters: follow coc please
 i don't know what is rcconf
[02:06] <navarone> purpleheart_USMC, soundjuicer
[02:06] <coz> Robocision, have you checked all the forum information about sound problems?
[02:06] <Robocision> not sure how to turn stuff off and on in alsa mixer.
[02:06] <christopher> can whoever it was send me those links via the bot
[02:06] <christopher> i need good learning material
[02:06] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, he was discussing the !goirish remark :)
[02:06] <Robocision> most.  and all of the wiki
[02:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about rute
 i don't have such command
[02:07] <nick01> I forgot if my partition is ext3 or reiserfs - how do I check ?
[02:07] <christopher> thanks jason
[02:07] <elkbuntu> eipipuz, because the spca5xx doesnt list gf112 as supported
[02:07] <coz> Robocision if you hit the letter "m" on the keyboard it will mute or unmute
[02:07] <tatters> my comment was in context
[02:07] <meshe> yanimax: hmmm, that must've been one i installed after: sudo apt-get install rcconf
[02:07] <eipipuz> strange 20060202 says so
[02:07] <coz> Robocision whichever bar you have higlighted
[02:07] <navarone> Robocision, in alsamixer you use the arrow keys near keypad to move left and right thru the sources and up and down to lower or raise volume
[02:07] <Seveas> tatters, that goirish thing originated from #ubuntu-offtopic and was entered by one of the most peace loving people from the channel - I'm sure it's no terrorism reference
[02:07] <christopher> ubotu: tell _jason he can have sex with my gf for his and his colleagues generosity
[02:07] <glauc> hey, whats a good ghost like open source utility?
[02:08] <ubuntu> yop
[02:08] <tatters> I am just saying maybe that phrase form the bot does not travel welll
[02:08] <eipipuz> weird, now it doesn't say anything bad, maybe I just needed to reboot
[02:08] <ubuntu> i have a problem
[02:08] <coz> glauc Ghost
[02:08] <yanimax> Can't create lock(/var/lock/rcconf). at /usr/bin/rcconf line 1004.
[02:08] <_jason> christopher: umm thanks I guess
[02:08] <purpleheart_USMC> navarone: how do you make the mp3's though?  only ogg and wavs are in soundjuicer
[02:08] <glauc> coz, right, but I was thinking more for linux
[02:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ cd rofl
[02:08] <ubuntu> bash: cd: rofl: Permission non accorde
[02:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo cd rofl
[02:08] <ubuntu> sudo: cd: command not found
[02:08] <ortner> anyone knows what the problem is if youre font in wine is exchanged by music notes?
 Can't create lock(/var/lock/rcconf). at /usr/bin/rcconf line 1004.
[02:08] <navarone> tatters I think most people in the area affected would recognize the inference
[02:08] <Seveas> ubuntu, never paste in here
[02:08] <ubuntu> ok
[02:08] <meshe> yanimax: sudo rcconf
[02:08] <coz> glauc ghost can ghost any os
[02:08] <coz> including ext3
[02:08] <UFO> so, ubuntu is using debian mirrors but when do they mirror them for new distribution... did take a copy of unstable and use it?
[02:08] <nick01> how do I check if a partition is ext3 or reiserfs ?
[02:08] <glauc> coz: well, I want a free ghost like utility :)
[02:08] <navarone> !mp3
[02:08] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:09] <Seveas> nick01, sudo fdisk -l
[02:09] <navarone> purpleheart_USMC, ^^^
[02:09] <coz> glauc i understand I don't really know of any that si out there
[02:09] <nick01> tks
[02:09] <scam> alright is there any way to make a mouse load the same buttons each time you reboot?
[02:09] <coz>  youcan back up your system without a utility
 ok, and then, once i get the list, what to do ?
[02:09] <UFO> or once or twice per year?
[02:09] <navarone> nick01, is azureus working now?
[02:09] <scam> last reboot my back button was 6 and this time its 2
[02:09] <glauc> coz: alright, thanks, i'll have a look around
[02:09] <meshe> yanimax: is mysql checked?
[02:09] <ortner> anyone heard of anything like my problem?
 yes
[02:09] <coz> I think someone here may have a godd solution for back up is you ask again
[02:09] <Seveas> UFO, they do a lot more than that but they basically sync as much as possible every 6 months
[02:09] <nick01> navarone, no-I'm compiling a new kernel
[02:10] <tatters> k my understandidng but just saying hoew it might appear to a european who has no clue about american football which I assume it was refrence to know I have been informed
[02:10] <navarone> nick01, are you compiling a kernel sans iptables? lol
[02:10] <UFO> Seveas: thx...
 everything is checked but 'alsasound' and 'bootlogd'
[02:10] <Robocision> wait, in alsa mixer it says a different card than my SB
[02:10] <cappiz> Seveas have you used unionfs?
[02:10] <nick01> Seveas, that didn't work- it only sais linux
[02:10] <ortner> anyone knows what the problem is if youre font in wine is exchanged by music notes?
[02:10] <nick01> navarone, yeah :)
[02:10] <coz> Robocision what does it say?
[02:10] <Seveas> cappiz, not yet
[02:10] <christopher> hey has anyone upgraded their firefox to the latest version?
[02:11] <tatters> but non the less in my example the phrase could be mistaken
[02:11] <amphi> christopher: tldp.org
[02:11] <navarone> nick01, ummm..maybe good idea to install it independent of your present one so you can switch...?
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about ff1.5
[02:11] <cappiz> ok :S
[02:11] <Seveas> nick01, that usually means ext2 or et3, you can use cfdisk to mae sure
[02:11] <Robocision> SIS SI7012 and chip says Realtek
[02:11] <ortner> How do i delete a file?
[02:11] <christopher> is it true that one shouldnt do it because of all the extension and plugin headaches
[02:11] <Seveas> ortner, drag it to the trashbin
[02:11] <meshe> yanimax: does the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist?
[02:11] <Seveas> (or the rm command)
[02:11] <_jason> ortner: right click > move to trash
[02:11] <nick01> Seveas, yeah- it's reiserfs
[02:11] <ortner> Seveas: via console. sorry
[02:12] <nick01> navarone, yup-I'll have 2 kernels
[02:12] <Seveas> ortner, rm
[02:12] <ortner> Seveas: thank you :)
[02:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell ortner about cli
[02:12] <coz> Is there a way to contact the art department for gnome?
[02:12] <Robocision> so I'm wonderin if there's a way to configure alsa to say soundblaster?
[02:12] <yanimax> meshe: no, it doesn't
[02:12] <navarone> nick01, ...okay...was worried you were gonna go off and have no protection whatsoever
[02:12] <UFO> Seveas: but cant really understand why they didnt build the distro to use debian repository and only for ubuntu related packages from their repo... probably security updates
[02:12] <meshe> yanimax: have a look at the file /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[02:12] <coz> Robocision, which sound blaster do you have? some are not compatible with breezy
[02:13] <Seveas> !tell UFO about debian
[02:13] <Robocision> audigy gamer
[02:13] <meshe> yanimax: what does it say for socket in the [server]  section?
[02:13] <Seveas> UFO, impossible, lots of packages differ in versions
[02:13] <coz> Robocision hold on I will look
[02:13] <Robocision> Thanks coz
[02:13] <Seveas> UFO, they're all source-compatible but Ubuntu often makes changes that don't go for debian (like ditchin python2.3 or having a bleeding edge X)
[02:14] <scam> alright is there any way to make a mouse load the same buttons each time you reboot?
[02:14] <scam> last reboot my back button was 6 and this time its 2
[02:14] <scam> and it only works correctly when its 6
[02:14] <Seveas> 'night all
[02:15] <UFO> Seveas: yes, offcourse. thats the main reason for ubuntu/kubuntu for me
[02:15] <Seveas> mv /proc/sef /dev/bed
[02:15] <Seveas> mv /proc/self /dev/bed
[02:15] <hyperactivecrond> gnite seveas
[02:15] <hyperactivecrond> echo seveas > /proc/sleeping
[02:15] <nick01> lol
[02:15] <yanimax> meshe: there's no [server]  section in the file
[02:15] <navarone> I am off too...take care folks
[02:16] <meshe> yanimax: that's a bit odd
[02:16] <meshe> yanimax: want me to pm you what should be there?
[02:16] <coz> Robocsion I am not finding specific referals to this card but if you go online and do a search you may get a few hits that can help
[02:17] <coz> sorry I cannot help more
[02:17] <yanimax> (meshe: you can check the file there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8672)
[02:17] <Robocision> thanks coz
 yes, sure
[02:17] <coz> Robocsision i am sure someon here may have had similar problems with their sound blaster
[02:17] <yanimax> meshe: btw, what does pm mean exactly?
[02:18] <meshe> yanimax: private message, but your file looks fine
[02:18] <Knowerrors> To anybody using FF 1.5, have you updated it, if so how?  (Im reading the wiki now and there are several methods listed.)
[02:18] <meshe> yanimax: ls /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
[02:18] <nick01> how do I install gcc and all the devel stuff ?
[02:18] <amphi> nick01: apt-get install build-essential
[02:18] <nick01> tks
[02:18] <IdleOne> Knowerrors:  foloow the wiki and use the moethod most comfortable for you
[02:19] <yanimax> meshe: the file exists when I do 'ls' on it
[02:19] <yanimax> meshe: yes, i'm ok for private messages
[02:19] <meshe> yanimax: and you still can't connect to the db?
 no, i still can't, always the 2002 error message
[02:20] <Aesop> Hmm, ok, so if I want to use Alien, I first configure and make the package, and then run Alien on the folder?
[02:20] <Aesop> ha D/ced even
[02:20] <rewt_> how do you launch the main menu?
[02:20] <amphi> rewt_: of what?
[02:21] <j2daosh> !mounting ntfs
[02:21] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, j2daosh
[02:21] <amphi> !ntfs
[02:21] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:21] <j2daosh> ahh
[02:21] <j2daosh> knew it was one of those
[02:22] <amphi> what, an evil proprietary filesystem? ;)
[02:22] <j2daosh> now what is the gnome art manager package called?
[02:22] <amphi> art manager?
[02:23] <j2daosh> yeah... where i can dl themes and shit
[02:23] <j2daosh> stuff!!
[02:23] <j2daosh> sorry
[02:23] <rewt_> but that doesnt work
[02:23] <amphi> oh, dunno - ask apt-cache I guess
[02:23] <j2daosh> !easysource
[02:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:23] <Hysty> j2daosh: themes?
[02:23] <rewt_> amphi, were you talking to me about apt-cache?
[02:24] <amphi> rewt_: no
[02:24] <Hysty> oh right I see you mentioned that already
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> !tell j2daosh about msgthebot
[02:24] <amphi> rewt_: what main menu are you talking about?
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> j2daosh: keep it clean.
[02:25] <Aesop> ls
[02:27] <scam> how do i make gdm not start when i reboot?
[02:27] <amphi> scam: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[02:27] <scam> thanks
[02:27] <frogzoo> scam: easiest way - install pkg 'bum' & disable the gdm startup
[02:27] <scam> what is bum?
[02:27] <frogzoo> bum = boot up manager
[02:28] <amphi> frogzoo: install a package to disable gdm? wtf?
[02:28] <scam> i dont want anything
[02:28] <j2daosh> hyper.. u gonna be ok? dont drink so much coffee
[02:28] <frogzoo> amphi: or read the manpage for update-rc.d ...
[02:28] <amphi> scam: you can always use update-rc.d to reinstate gdm if you want it again
[02:28] <j2daosh> Hysty, yeah... themes... for gnome desktop/applications
[02:28] <scam> amphi, thanks
[02:28] <amphi> frogzoo: which is short and simple
[02:28] <scam> i hardly use X11
[02:29] <scam> i network bsd boxes at work.. so gui is weird
[02:29] <malv> how do computer nerds spend valentines day?
[02:29] <scam> and i found a realyl strang thing
[02:29] <scam> when i use gdm to login my back button my mouse is 2 when i dont use gdm its button 6
[02:30] <amphi> scam: yeah, I use console mostly
[02:30] <scam> and it needs to be 6 to work correctly
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> j2daosh: watch it.
[02:30] <yanimax> meshe: are you still there ?
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> malv: alone :\
[02:30] <meshe> yanimax: yeah, didn't you get the pm?
[02:30] <malv> heh
[02:31] <malv> if you have a hand, you're never alone
 i got it, didn't you get my answer ?
[02:31] <scam> amphi, any idea why my mouse button is different only when i log in with gdm ?
[02:31] <meshe> yanimax: no, i didn't, is your nickname registered?
[02:32] <yanimax> meshe: no, it' not...
[02:32] <meshe> yanimax: you can't send private messages with an unregistered/unidentified nick
[02:32] <rewt_> amhi u been getting my messages?
[02:32] <malv> time for a valentines day fragfest: how true nerds spend valentines day
[02:32] <rewt_> *amphi....i dunno if im sending them right
[02:32] <j2daosh> watch what? i said sorry for the cussword and with the ubotu... i didn;t know how to do it in a message so just calm down... everything will be ok
[02:33] <amphi> scam: none at all ;)
[02:33] <scam> i think thats realyl weird
[02:34] <amphi> rewt_: no; a) please don't PM without asking, and b) you will need to register with nickserv to PM
[02:34] <rewt_> i am registered
[02:34] <amphi> rewt_: in general, it's better to talk in the channel
[02:34] <rewt_> does it not log you in automatically?
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> and if you need to pm, ask... iirc it's in the coc
[02:34] <yanimax> what's the command to register one's nickname ?
[02:34] <meshe> rewt_: nope, you need to identify
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> !tell yanimax about register
[02:35] <amphi> rewt_: /whois yourself
[02:35] <eipipuz> does anyone knows why I don't have a /dev/video0?
[02:35] <meshe> yanimax: /msg nickserv register password email
[02:35] <ahlich> anyone can help w nvidia driver...? im sure this must have been asked before, and yes i did try to find out before asking...
[02:35] <amphi> rewt_: you need to see a line "is identified to services"
[02:35] <amphi> !nv
[02:35] <ubotu> amphi: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <eipipuz> I modprobe spca5xx without errors...
[02:35] <amphi> !nvidia
[02:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> !tell ahlich about binarydrivers
[02:35] <amphi> bah
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> !tell amphi about msgthebot
[02:36] <j2daosh> ok... what option do i have to add to my ntfs for my nonroot account to access my newly mounted windows partition through the gdm? i thought it was just user, but that aint working
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> !tell j2daosh about ntfs
[02:36] <rewt_> how do i identify
[02:36] <amphi> j2daosh: no, there's some umask crap probably
[02:36] <ahlich> so the driver that apt get brings is no good?
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond>  rewt: /msg nickserv identify yourpasshere
[02:36] <amphi> rewt_: /msg nickersv help identify
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> ahlich: yes it is
[02:37] <ulrik> I need a tool to make an .iso out of a cd
[02:37] <amphi> ulrik: dd
[02:37] <ahlich> well does not work with my n6200
[02:37] <ulrik> amphi: dd? okay. Is there a Gnome tool for this?
[02:37] <rewt_> identify
[02:37] <rewt_> IDENTIFY
[02:37] <ulrik> rewt_: case doesn't matter
[02:37] <rewt_> nickserv IDENTIFY
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> rewt_: /msg nickserv identify
[02:37] <amphi> ulrik: no idea - dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso is not overly difficult
[02:38] <j2daosh> yeah i already looked at that hyper... didn't help none
[02:38] <ulrik> amphi: but it's still in the shell. I'll write a pygtk wrapper for it
[02:38] <amphi> rewt_: shouting at nickserv is not going to help ;)
[02:38] <amphi> ulrik: what on earth for?
[02:38] <j2daosh> thats where i got the ,user, idea from
[02:39] <ulrik> amphi: I don't feel confortable with the shell. Well, I do, but I liek to have a gui
[02:39] <amphi> ulrik: whatever floats your boat, I guess
[02:39] <rewt_> grr i dont remember my pw
[02:40] <ulrik> thanks
[02:40] <amphi> ulrik: I can't see that a gui could fail to be more clumsy than dd
[02:40] <Chris_Tucker> when using crontab -e how do you have a task run every weekday at 12pm? i know how to make it run every day of the week with 0 12 * * * taskapptorun but not how to restrict to weekdays
[02:41] <amphi> Chris_Tucker: man 5 crontab gives an example of running a command on weekdays
[02:41] <heatxsink> anyone in here know where I can find the divx5 codecs for dapper?
[02:41] <bigmoe> anyone knows how to brows through anonymous proxy
[02:42] <Kr0ntab> heya folks...
[02:43] <bimberi> Chris_Tucker: 0 12 * * 1-5    (man 5 crontab)
[02:44] <chriswilliams> hey
[02:44] <bimberi> ooh amphi was waaaaay quicker :)
[02:44] <chriswilliams> i need help
[02:44] <Chris_Tucker> amphi, bimberi thanks,
[02:44] <heatxsink> it seems that xine is all jacked up
[02:44] <chriswilliams> can some one help me
[02:44] <amphi> chriswilliams: not if your problem is a secret
[02:44] <william> how do i change my default media player to mplayer instead of totem?
[02:45] <Aesop> Hmm, anyone know of a good way to upgrade Firefox to 1.5?
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> !tell Aesop about firefox1.5
[02:45] <Aesop> Thanks
[02:45] <chriswilliams> i am using the live cd for power pc and when it loads and goes pass the logo it comes to a blank screen
[02:46] <rewt_> how do u change ur username?
[02:46] <amphi> chriswilliams: do other ppc live cds work on that box?
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: In what?
[02:46] <rewt_> irc
[02:46] <amphi> rewt_: /nick foo
[02:46] <christopher> anyone know how to get these "edit clock format" windows to dissappear?
[02:46] <amphi> chriswilliams: eg. the sysresccd.org iso
[02:46] <chriswilliams> no it boot and loads everything then a lien in the screen then blank screen
[02:47] <scam> is there a way to make an iso from a cdrom in linux?
[02:47] <ulrik> amphi: oops, guess what. Nautilus lets you make an iso
[02:47] <ulrik> scam: hey I'm just doing that
[02:47] <ulrik> scam: Right click on the cd on the desktop, choose copy cd
[02:47] <ulrik> scam: then choose to save as .ISO, not burn
[02:48] <ulrik> scam: this is in nautilus/GNOME
[02:48] <amphi> ulrik: cool, another wheel saved from reinvention ;)
[02:48] <tEoti> how do i register my name
[02:48] <scam> ulrik, sweet thanks
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> !register
[02:48] <ubotu> register is probably type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[02:48] <scam> any way to do it in console
[02:48] <amphi> tEoti: /msg nickserv help
[02:48] <chriswilliams> so what do i do
[02:48] <amphi> scam: make an iso from a cd? yeah, dd
[02:48] <tyler_> i just created/saved a file that is readabl;e with gv.... how can i save this file in jpg format or any other format thats readle in windows?
[02:49] <ulrik> scam: ask amphi , I didn't like his console solution
[02:49] <ulrik> :-D
[02:49] <ulrik> dd if=/dev/hdc of=copy.iso it was
[02:49] <amphi> scam: dd if=/dev/whatever of=foo.iso [other options to taste] 
[02:49] <scam> amphi, yeah didnt know dd would do it
[02:49] <amphi> scam: bs=$SOME_LARGISH_NUMBER helps for example
[02:49] <ulrik> what is bs?
[02:49] <christopher> does terminal have its own md5 sum checker as well?
[02:49] <amphi> ulrik: man dd
[02:49] <scam> bs = bullshit
[02:50] <scam> hehe
[02:50] <catchphrase> my system froze from something simple (installing Shockwave Flash through FireFox) and have to restart. Is there a way to figure out why?
[02:50] <amphi> scam: er, block size/buffer size I believe ;)
[02:50] <scam> amphi, yeah i know :)
[02:50] <amphi> catchphrase: beyond the fact that flash is evil? ;)
[02:50] <scam> falsh sucks
[02:50] <tEoti> alright i think im registered
[02:51] <scam> im kinda glad it doesnt work on 64 bit
[02:51] <catchphrase> amphi, well yeah besides that. but in order to use a website i had to install flash.
[02:51] <christopher> anyone familiar with the online poker room slike party poker, world poker tour, ultimate poker, pacific poker, etc...
[02:51] <catchphrase> amphi, i didn't expect just installing it and reloading the site would cause the entire machine to freeze solid (no mouse or kb response)
[02:51] <amphi> tEoti: yup, and identified to services
[02:52] <scam> i was reading something out flash player on 64 bit using something to emelate it
[02:52] <scam> or something
[02:52] <scam> anyone read anything about that
[02:52] <amphi> nope
[02:52] <tEoti> how do you launch the main menu?
[02:52] <IdleOne> !twm
[02:53] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[02:53] <scam> libflash-mozplugin
[02:53] <scam>  doesnt work  correctly on apps..
[02:53] <IdleOne> !tmw
[02:53] <ubotu> IdleOne: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:53] <frogzoo> tEoti: click on 'Applications' mebbe?
[02:53] <scam> it only works on pictures
[02:53] <amphi> tEoti: main menu of what?
[02:53] <tEoti> like where everything is... places system accesories
[02:53] <IdleOne> I need a light window manager any suggestions
[02:53] <IdleOne> ?
[02:53] <tEoti> i want to launch a main menu from a custom icon So I need to know the command or path or whatever it is that makes it pop up.
[02:53] <amphi> IdleOne: openbox is good
[02:53] <frogzoo> tEoti: by default, the menus are in the top lh corner
[02:53] <malv> what does iirc mean?
[02:53] <Kyral> If I Recall Correctly
[02:54] <scam> if i recal correctly
[02:54] <IdleOne> amphi:  i have a p2 233mhz
[02:54] <tEoti>  I thgought it was launch('gnome-panel-control --main-menu')
[02:54] <frogzoo> malv: iirc = if i recall correctly, (iirc)
[02:54] <malv> gotcha
[02:54] <amphi> malv: apt-get install bsdgames and use wtf
[02:54] <tEoti> but it wasnt
[02:54] <IdleOne> !openbox
[02:54] <ubotu> methinks openbox is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox
[02:54] <amphi> IdleOne: openbox should run fine on that - it's a better remimplementation of blackbox
[02:55] <malv> they need to have an irc expander for net lingo
[02:55] <IdleOne> amphi:  im checking it out thanks :)
[02:55] <amphi> IdleOne: 200KB binary
[02:55] <malv> everytime i see lol, it should write: "I found that to be very amusing"
[02:55] <amphi> malv: as I said, install wtf
[02:55] <amphi> malv: then, in a shell, you can do 'wtf is iirc' and it'll tell you
[02:55] <malv> nah, but an irc plugin
[02:56] <malv> that uses a database of net lingo
[02:56] <tEoti> anyone understand what im trying to do?
[02:56] <amphi> malv: you should be able to remember TLAs and ETLAs
[02:56] <scam> tuxracer
[02:56] <scam> is an awsome game
[02:56] <phiber_optic> how Do i run a .run file?
[02:56] <malv> yea, but acronyms bother me
[02:56] <malv> heh
[02:56] <amphi> tEoti: yes, but I have no idea how you would do it on gnome (or why you'd want to, but that is irrelevant)
[02:57] <malv> and everytime someone writes lol, i get angry
[02:57] <amphi> malv: lol stands for 'lamer on line' ;(
[02:57] <amphi> er, ;)
[02:57] <tEoti> amphi im using gdesklets and the gnome panel im using from there the lancher isnt launching the menu
[02:57] <mordof> ok, so im trying to install my nvidia drivers, and my kernal is different, so i have to re-compile it.. but it cant find kernel source files, i THINK i downloaded them but am not sure, i need help here
[02:57] <tEoti> so i need to fix it
[02:57] <amphi> tEoti: thankfully, I have never seen a 'desklet'
[02:58] <pinkpanther> what packages am I missing? ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[02:58] <pinkpanther> aborting...
[02:58] <pinkpanther> Aborted
[02:58] <tEoti> can anyne help?
[02:58] <mordof> this is frustrating
[02:59] <amphi> pinkpanther: what gave you that?
[02:59] <Kr0ntab> tEoti, yer trying to launch what...
[02:59] <bimberi> mordof: you might only need kernel headers, install them with 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:59] <pinkpanther> java -jar JAP.jar
[02:59] <bimberi> '
[02:59] <tEoti> the gnome applications menu
[02:59] <mordof> bimberi: aptitude or apt-get?
[03:00] <pinkpanther> something is odd about my java
[03:00] <bimberi> mordof: either (i prefer aptitude)
[03:00] <Kr0ntab> you mena you want it on your panel?
[03:00] <mordof> bimberi: is it possible to do that inside this? im running irc inside terminal
[03:00] <tEoti> kr0n no
[03:00] <Kr0ntab> or an icon on the desktop...
[03:00] <mordof> im not in X currently
[03:00] <tEoti> im using gDesklets
[03:00] <amphi> mordof: you can run apt-get in console - just switch to another VT
[03:01] <mordof> amphi: VT? how do i do that
[03:01] <bimberi> mordof: possibly - or you could opan another virtual tty with ctrl-alt-F2 (c-a-F1 to get back)
[03:01] <tEoti> and im using gnome panel in the gdesklets
[03:01] <mordof> ohhh, ok
[03:01] <tEoti> and the menu launcher command is fscked
[03:01] <bimberi> *open
[03:01] <mordof> bimberi: you said linux-header-$(uname -r)... i type that exactly?
[03:01] <tEoti> so  i needa change it
[03:02] <mordof> bimberi: just making sure so i dont screw anything up..
[03:02] <amphi> mordof: alt-f2 for example
[03:02] <christopher> hey do alot of you use "Desklets" or do you use another kind of similiar software?
[03:02] <bimberi> mordof: yes (it will replace with the output of the command 'uname -r')
[03:02] <mordof> k, brb
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> christopher: I have some gdesklets.
[03:02] <leif\> Can someone help me with some ubuntu on an ibook issues?
[03:02] <christopher> im trying to find some really cool ones
[03:02] <amphi> christopher: I use the venerable gkrellm or the 'moaning goat meter'
[03:02] <mordof> it says it couldnt find package...
[03:02] <christopher> what do they do
[03:02] <tEoti> well this is the command thats in the gnome panel that is not working
[03:03] <tEoti> launch('gnome-panel-control --main-menu')
[03:03] <mordof> gah! now what?
[03:03] <tEoti> launch('nautilus') <--- is working just fine
[03:03] <phiber_optic> In order to uninstall a software I can just delete it righyt?
[03:03] <christopher> and how do you guys get my name typed up that quick when responding to me
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic: apt-get remove packagename
[03:03] <mordof> bimberi: Couldn't find package linux-header-2.6.12-10-386
[03:03] <bimberi> mordof:  headers (plural)
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Hit 'ch' and then TAB.
[03:03] <mordof> ohh, k
[03:03] <_jason> christopher: chr<tab>
[03:04] <phiber_optic> tonyyarusso, the thing is Iam installing americas army and its a .run file.. I dont think apt-get remove would work
[03:04] <amphi> christopher: you can find mgm here: http://linuxmafia.com/mgm/index.html
[03:04] <mordof> bimberi: hurray! that worked, ok now to try the video drivers
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic: Ah, no.  For that probably removing the folder is sufficient, but I'm not entirely familiar with how it installs.
[03:04] <christopher> amphi, thanks
[03:05] <tEoti> i need this command fixed >.<
[03:05] <phiber_optic> tonyyarusso, it has its own installer
[03:05] <christopher> heres one more thing i couldnt get to work in GNOME
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic: I know that part; I meant what happens when you run that.
[03:06] <christopher> setting up my wireless internet adaptar
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> !tell christopher about wifi
[03:06] <phiber_optic> oh sorry tonyyarusso ;)
[03:06] <christopher> woohoo
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> do you have gnome-panel-control ?
[03:06] <mordof> bimberi: YES! tyvm! video card drivers installed as a success :D:D:D
[03:06] <phiber_optic> I hope by just deleting it works ;)
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> tEoti, ?
[03:06] <bimberi> mordof: great! :)
[03:06] <christopher> love this system
[03:06] <tEoti> yes kr0n
[03:06] <tEoti> ?
[03:06] <amphi> phiber_optic: apt-get remove [--purge]  package_name
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> do you have gnome-panel-control ?
[03:06] <mordof> bimberi: i wasn't aware you could do so much without X.. this is amazing
[03:06] <leif\> When I put my ibook into standby, and bring it back up, it goes through this "Waking up AirPort" thing, how do I get back to well.. anything but that?
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> its part of the openbox package
[03:06] <tEoti> i dont know?
[03:07] <Kr0ntab> type "which gnome-panel-control"
[03:07] <tEoti> i got ubuntu 5.10 install amd64
[03:07] <mordof> ok, how do i get out of this now?
[03:07] <bimberi> mordof: haha, well once upon a time there was only cli
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> amphi: p_o's isn't a package; installing from a self-extracting binary.
[03:07] <bimberi> mordof: your irc client?  /quit
[03:07] <patrick__> Guys, I just mounted a 2nd hardrive in my home directory. I now have a "lock" against it - i can't copy to it. Any ideas?
[03:07] <tEoti> kr)n where?
[03:07] <christopher> amphi,  mgm is just like the desklets software right?
[03:07] <mordof> bimberi: yeah.. thanks, ill be back in in a minute with x-chat
[03:07] <Kr0ntab> tEoti, it should return:   /usr/bin/gnome-panel-control
[03:07] <phiber_optic> amphi, but how will apt get know that Im installing armyops if its not in the reposotry
[03:07] <christopher> amphi,  or does it come installed with the features that go on the desktop
[03:07] <amphi> tonyyarusso: ah
[03:07] <tEoti> it ddnt return anything
[03:08] <yanimax> I'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?
[03:08] <Kr0ntab> if not.... install openbox:    sudo apt-get install openbox
[03:08] <snooze> hi people
[03:08] <amphi> christopher: mgm is a perl script
[03:08] <christopher> oh i dont know that programming language
[03:08] <snooze> why do the standard ubuntu packages not support twinview? any suggestions?
[03:08] <amphi> christopher: you don't have to run it
[03:09] <christopher> i know im just looking for some really cool desktop thingy mabobs
[03:09] <snooze> now to my main problem: my twinview is "twisted" somehow, meaning my machine interprets the primary and secondary screen vice-versa. can i just set the RightOf to LeftOf?
[03:09] <amphi> christopher: but it needs various packages installed to run, you might be better off with a packaged system monitor like gkrellm
[03:09] <christopher> i had the glass icons before which i liked and theres that cool starter bar.. but what i really want is a cool side bar with computer info, temp, time, date etc
[03:09] <nmm> how do i install a c compiler
[03:10] <snooze> christopher: what are mamobs?
[03:10] <snooze> or mabobs?
[03:10] <Kyral> nmm: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:10] <_jason> nmm: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:10] <patrick__> I just mounted a 2nd hardrive in my home directory. I now have a "lock" against it - i can't copy to it. Any ideas?
[03:10] <snooze> Kyral: what is build-essential?
[03:10] <_jason> Kyral: you type quite fast :o
[03:10] <nmm> ok
[03:10] <snooze> Kyral: for what do i need it?
[03:10] <pinkpanther> I still can't figure out why my java won't compile
[03:10] <christopher> mabobs
[03:10] <pinkpanther> ge.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[03:10] <christopher> like majigs
[03:10] <elkbuntu> snooze, it will let you compile things
[03:11] <Kyral> snooze: Its the essential things for compiling (sans actual coding know-how)
[03:11] <christopher> i didnt know the exact term to refernce them so i said that so that maybe you will know that lol
[03:11] <snooze> elkbuntu, Kyral: so i should install it as one of the first things?
[03:11] <phiber_optic> amphi, but how will apt get know that Im installing armyops if its not in the reposotry
[03:11] <bigmoe> anyone here knows how fuse works
[03:11] <amphi> pinkpanther: some file creation is failing, looks like; do you have write permission?
[03:11] <Kyral> phiber_optic: it won't
[03:11] <elkbuntu> snooze, it will be useful lots of times, so yes
[03:11] <amphi> phiber_optic: it won't
[03:11] <wenderlan> como fao pra entra em uma lista em portugues?
[03:11] <Kyral> phiber_optic: this is why most things install to /usr/locla
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> !pt
[03:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:11] <Kyral> phiber_optic: Apt won't install there
[03:11] <wenderlan> tem algun brasileiro??
[03:11] <_jason> wenderlan: escreve assim: /join #ubuntu-pt
[03:12] <bigmoe> i donot know which partition i should mount
[03:12] <amphi> !tell wenderlan about br
[03:12] <snooze> elkbuntu, Kyral: i just built some nice bash scripts (2) i execute after installing a fresh ubuntu. they contain things like setting up apt, locales and stuff, i think i will just add it to my apt-get line.
[03:12] <snooze> thanks.
[03:12] <pinkpanther> -rw-r--r--   1 pinkpanther pinkpanther 2451322 2006-02-14 20:11 JAP.jar
[03:12] <phiber_optic> oohh ok so by typing sudo apt-get remove armyops it will go to the /usr/local folder and find this folder and delte it?
[03:12] <elkbuntu> snooze it will be on the cd, so have that handy
[03:12] <Kyral> phiber_optic: nope
[03:12] <nick01> anybody here good at compiling kernels ? I get a kernel panic- unable to mount root fs on unknown block :(
[03:12] <Kyral> phiber_optic: but you can just delete the /usr/local dir ;P
[03:13] <snooze> elkbuntu: i install via net anyways. getting out that cd entry of sources.list is one of the first things i do after a fresh install.
[03:13] <Kyral> nick01: prolly means you forgot to compile in support for the FS
[03:13] <phiber_optic> is it the same as doing sudo apt-get remove [--purge]  armyops?
[03:13] <amphi> nick01: you have support for your ide chipset and / fs built in to the kernel? (not modules)
[03:13] <snooze> elkbuntu: and i think i am right with doint it that way.
[03:13] <snooze> -t
[03:13] <nick01> Kyral, I compiled reiserfs support in the kernel
[03:13] <snooze> mh i don't like xchat :)
[03:13] <christopher> tonyyarusso, what else do you use besides desklets.. or do you use them for the majority?
[03:13] <Kyral> nick01: Dunno then lol
[03:13] <amphi> nick01: and ide support?
[03:13] <nick01> amphi, I'll look
[03:13] <Kyral> Personally I compile in everything, then take away until something breaks :P
[03:14] <amphi> snooze: irssi
[03:14] <Kyral> Irssi ++
[03:14] <elkbuntu> snooze nothing wrong with either way
[03:14] <phiber_optic> amphi, is it the same as doing sudo apt-get remove [--purge]  armyops?
[03:14] <Pablo> I need to run a command before x starts everytime "915resolution 3c 1400 1050" how would I do this?
[03:14] <snooze> amphi: can't install it because my apt package database is locked right now because i install big stuff :)
[03:14] <snooze> but thank you :)
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> christopher: I have 4 of those (ext. IP, POP mailbox watcher, countdown timer, and uptime), and have CPU, mem, and disk writing info from the Gnome panel functionality.
[03:14] <amphi> phiber_optic: you can't do that if it wasn't installed from an ubuntu package
[03:14] <Kyral> Pablo: try adding it to your .xinitrc
[03:14] <airreson> :)
[03:14] <phiber_optic> ohh ok
[03:14] <nick01> amphi, in what section in menuconfig ?
[03:14] <bigmoe> anyone here knows how fuse works
[03:14] <Pablo> ok
[03:14] <airreson> hi can anyone help me with my sound
[03:14] <airreson> it isnt working
[03:14] <frogzoo> !sound
[03:14] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:14] <snooze> airreson: propably, what's the matter?
[03:15] <snooze> oh, nice faq bot :)
[03:15] <amphi> nick01: device drivers somewhere - use / to search
[03:15] <christopher> oh ok i need to look into the GNOME panel stuff then and locate that
[03:15] <snooze> cool that is.
[03:15] <airreson> snooze,  my sound card isnt working, and its worked before i had ubuntu, i know its my thinkpad doing it its just i tried the help for this model and it wont work
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Right-clivk, add to panel.
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> s/v/c
[03:15] <snooze> airreson: maybe a sound daemon is stealing your single plex soundcard. did you try setting up your mp3 player to use ALSA?
[03:16] <nick01> amphi, via82cxxx chipset support ?
[03:16] <frogzoo> airreson: what does /var/log/messages say? does it pick up the card?
[03:16] <airreson> snooze,  mp3 player? i dont got one o_o
[03:16] <Pablo> Kyral, where is this .xinitrc?
[03:16] <sizzam> can anyone who uses 'denyhost' tell me how they got the daemon to run at boot time?
[03:16] <Kyral> Pablo: should be in ~/.xinitrc
[03:16] <airreson> snooze,  how can i set it
[03:16] <snooze> airreson: hm, i guess it's one of the first things you will want to do to test sound
[03:16] <Kyral> God I love Tab-Complete :D
[03:16] <snooze> airreson: sudo apt-get install xmms to be on a good way
[03:17] <snooze> Kyral: don't say that :)
[03:17] <Kyral> snooze: Huh?
[03:17] <Kyral> Tab-Complete owns :D
[03:17] <frogzoo> airreson: amarok is also very nice
[03:17] <snooze> Kyral: it's bad when there is your ex girlfriend in the same channel as the guy you want to tell that sex with her was good :)
[03:17] <nick01> amphi, in ata/atapi/mfm/rll ?
[03:17] <snooze> Kyral: and she is kalled kati and your friend is called kyrai e.g. :)
[03:17] <Pablo> Kyral, that file does nto seem to exist
[03:18] <snooze> Kyral: it can be really dangerous, don't say that :)
[03:18] <barry> Hello. Are there any grub experts here?
[03:18] <sevtastic> hey all. i'm having problems with getting thunderbird 1.5 running. i downloaded 1.5 from their site and installed it, but i'm getting these errors upoon trying to run it: http://pastebin.com/555334
[03:18] <elkbuntu> snooze that would depend how lazy you are :P
[03:18] <snooze> barry: experts propably not 8)
[03:18] <frogzoo> barry: I know a bit, wassup?
[03:18] <andrew_> why cant I get XMMS in ubuntu? ???
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> !tell sevtastic about thunderbird1.5
[03:18] <Pablo> Kyral,  so in /home/mynamehere/.xinitrc ??
[03:18] <snooze> elkbuntu: a lot, i'm using ubuntu! :)
[03:18] <Kyral> Pablo: yah
[03:18] <andrew_> !XMMS
[03:18] <Pablo> ok thanks
[03:18] <ubotu> [xmms]  to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[03:18] <sizzam> i need help getting the 'denyhost' daemon to run at boot-time, can someone help me understand the instructions starting from line 13 to line 15  here:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8678
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> sevtastic: The wiki has pretty explicit directions that might help.
[03:18] <meshe> what's the package you need to install to switch from kubuntu to unbuntu (basically need gnome)
[03:18] <snooze> ESOUND?
[03:18] <elkbuntu> snooze lol
[03:18] <Kyral> ....damn the Entry is OLD
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> meshe: ubuntu-desktop
[03:19] <snooze> that's sortof BAD workaround!
[03:19] <frogzoo> cripes people get choosy - they want free support, but they want experts ;)
[03:19] <airreson> snooze,  go to linux-laptops.com and look up thinkpad 770, i need to do the listed directions to fix sound, but it doesnt work xD
[03:19] <meshe> ahh, thx tonyyarusso
[03:19] <sevtastic> tonyyarusso: i followed that verbatim
[03:19] <snooze> airreson: no i will not :)
[03:19] <andrew_> no, i need it to run in ubuntu breezy
[03:19] <sevtastic> i'm running a 64bit kernel if that makes any difference.
[03:19] <andrew_> uh
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> sevtastic: Ah, 'k.
[03:19] <snooze> airreson: have to carry up my own cross at the moment, sry
[03:19] <snooze> airreson: :)
[03:19] <Pablo> brb
[03:19] <andrew_> does anyone here know anything about getting XMMS for ubuntu???
[03:19] <airreson> snooze,  o ok :)
[03:19] <Kyral> andrew_: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:19] <Kyral> !info xmms breezy
[03:20] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[03:20] <frogzoo> !info amarok
[03:20] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[03:20] <nick01> how do I get rid of that unable to mount root fs on unknown block error ? both ide and fs support is in kernel :(
[03:20] <snooze> ah, irssi is installed by default?
[03:20] <barry> snooze, frogzoo: thanks. I have a box that had XP on it. I chucked a second hard drive in it with linux and a large fat32 partition. The thing is, I never get to play on that box. My wife is always there. And I need the ahrd drive space back.
[03:20] <grim76> Is there a dapper repo for the w32codecs?
[03:20] <Kyral> nick01: yousa on your own
[03:20] <purpleheart_USMC> anyone know how to configure the weather applet in GNOME?
[03:20] <_jason> grim76: use PLF
[03:20] <snooze> barry: so where's the problem?
[03:20] <Kyral> nick01: Which is usually the case with Kernel Compiles ;D
[03:20] <meshe> what
[03:20] <meshe> er what's xubuntu-desktop?
[03:20] <snooze> barry: grub should be set up correctly to multi boot all the os'es after installing ubuntu!
[03:21] <grim76> _jason thanks I appreciate it.
[03:21] <barry> frogzoo: So, I used qtparted from a boot CD and wiped the linux partitions. (D'oh!) Now when I try to boot the box, I get an error 17 from Grub.
[03:21] <Kyral> meshe: XFCE :D
[03:21] <SeyToN> can install quicktime ?
[03:21] <Kyral> !xubuntu
[03:21] <ubotu> hmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:21] <snooze> barry: at least it was the case with THIS system and it rocks!
[03:21] <airreson> xfce is amazing it looks so good too
[03:21] <snooze> SeyToN: yes you can!
[03:21] <barry> (Instead, I have ubuntu on a laptop I have full access to.)
[03:21] <SeyToN> wicked
[03:21] <snooze> SeyToN: you just need to install the necessary codecs
[03:21] <nick01> Kyral, do I laso need stats in /proc/fs or extended attributes ? cause that I leaved out
[03:21] <snooze> SeyToN: but don't ask me what they are called :)
[03:21] <meshe> thx :)
[03:21] <Mordof> how hard would it be for me to install dapper drake currently if i had the space?
[03:21] <Kyral> nick01: Maybe...find out :P
[03:21] <barry> snooze, frogzoo: I'm trying to turn the main box back to just an XP box, but now it won't even boot.
[03:22] <nick01> :(
[03:22] <Mordof> dual boot with ubuntu
[03:22] <snooze> brb, have to start up KDE! :)
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: why would you?
[03:22] <airreson> snooze,  ok its installed
[03:22] <Mordof> breezy
[03:22] <snooze> barry: ughm
[03:22] <SeyToN> that means i got running thro mplayer?
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: are you ready for it?
[03:22] <Mordof> Kyral, to try out xgl
[03:22] <sevtastic> tonyyarusso: any other ideas to get thunderbird running?
[03:22] <Mordof> Kyral, most likely not
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: Xgl is eh
[03:22] <snooze> barry: THEN you got a real goddamn problem! :)
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: wait for it
[03:22] <frogzoo> barry: I'm guessing xp's 'fixmbr'
[03:22] <snooze> barry: you got 2 ways of doint it.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> sevtastic: This is just a guess, but maybe look around the filesystem and see if you can symlink one way or the other between XFree86 and Xorg fonts.
[03:22] <barry> I'm all ears, snooze.
[03:22] <snooze> barry: 1. rewriting the MBR with windows, - 2. kick up XP by grub.
[03:22] <andrew_> oh wow, ty very much Kyral
[03:23] <andrew_> bye!
[03:23] <snooze> barry: if you want a correct entry for grub menu.lst, i can paste you :)
[03:23] <barry> I'd love that, snooze.
[03:23] <yanimax> meshe?
[03:23] <snooze> barry: uhm allright, but it boots up a windows on a completely different disk, keep that in mind 8)
[03:23] <snooze> barry: i'll paste it to your query, ok?
[03:24] <heatxsink> anyone know why divx5 codecs dont' work in Xine in dapper?
[03:24] <barry> Windoze is on the primary drive. Linux was on othe second drive, but has now been wiped.
[03:25] <bigmoe> what is the program that opens rar files
[03:25] <barry> snooze: I'm sure pasting it to my query will be fine, if you can tell me what that means :^)
[03:25] <catchphrase> okay this isn't just a coincidence, loading up a flash website (www.leadtek.com.tw) froze my computer again
[03:25] <grim76> _jason, do I need to use the Hoary repo or is there something I am missing for dapper?
[03:26] <snooze> barry: then you should get absolutely no problem if you set up your primary bios boot device correctly it should just boot.
[03:26] <_jason> grim76: w32codecs are just a bunch of windows dll's.  I believe it makes no difference
[03:26] <snooze> barry: i guess there is no problem and you just try booting the wrond harddisk.
[03:26] <snooze> s/wrond/wrong/
[03:26] <_jason> grim76: you can just download the deb directly and install as well
[03:27] <JDigital_> What lets Windows use ext2?
[03:27] <frogzoo> catchphrase: guessing you need a vid driver update
[03:27] <beniamino> are breezy kernels really compiled using gcc-3.4?
[03:27] <snooze> barry: if you did'nt screw up the MBR of that windows disk while you installed linux on the same disk, it should be still bootable from that disk without changing anything :)
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell JDigital_ about explore2fs
[03:27] <snooze> beniamino: i think so, yes.
[03:27] <barry> snooze: Forcing a setting in the bios should circumvent grub?
[03:27] <JDigital_> thankee
[03:28] <beniamino> snooze: but everything else is gcc-4, right?
[03:28] <frogzoo> !winext2
[03:28] <ubotu> winext2 is, like, http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[03:28] <bigmoe> can anyone tell me what is the program that opens rar file or installing a package
[03:28] <catchphrase> frogzoo- perhaps. it's a geforce2pro and i haven't installed nvidia drivers yet.
[03:28] <snooze> barry: exactly, you got the point :)
[03:28] <frogzoo> catchphrase: that would be the right move
[03:28] <snooze> brb in 3min
[03:28] <bimberi> !rar
[03:28] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[03:28] <JDigital_> _jason++
[03:28] <frogzoo> barry: you can'
[03:29] <barry> frogzoo: I'm listening...
[03:29] <CosmoDad> anyone else noticed that if two users are logged in (using two X servers) and you insert a cdrom, it sometimes gets mounted with the other user's rights? any way to fix that?
[03:29] <frogzoo> barry: you can maybe set the bios to boot of a certain disk - and ignoring the disk with grub - but depends on bios
[03:30] <_jason> CosmoDad: sounds like a bug, file a report
[03:30] <barry> frogzoo: I'm looking at the bios now. The order is the CD, the floppy, and the IDE Hard Drive. The hard drive is pointing to the drive with windoze on it already.
[03:30] <grim76> _jason, thanks for the help I appreciate it.
[03:30] <CosmoDad> _jason: where'd I do that?
[03:30] <_jason> grim76: do you know where to get the deb?
[03:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell CosmoDad about malone
[03:31] <Hysty> CosmoDad: maybe you could remove the second users rights to access the cdrom?
[03:31] <frogzoo> barry: but does that disk have a boot loader? if not, the bios will check the other drive
[03:31] <grim76> _jason, I just did a wget to dl the deb and installed it that way.
[03:31] <snooze> yeah, finally irssi :)
[03:31] <_jason> grim76: ah ok
[03:31] <barry> snooze: Welcome back.
[03:31] <snooze> barry: re :)
[03:31] <CosmoDad> Hysty: no, I need the other user to be able to mount cdroms as well
[03:31] <barry> frogzoo: How do I tell?
[03:31] <snooze> gotta get another beer, then i'm really ready to go! :)
[03:32] <CosmoDad> Hysty: I just need to have the cdrom mounted as the user currently using the PC... don't know if that's easy to handle
[03:32] <barry> snooze: Just told frogzoo that the bios are already set to boot (1) CD (2) floppy (3) the hard drive that holds windoze.
[03:32] <Hysty> CosmoDad: you may have to disable the automounting of the cdrom drive
[03:32] <frogzoo> barry: well you can boot linux & try 'dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 | grep od -c'  & see if it looks like a bootloader
[03:32] <CosmoDad> Hysty: no
[03:32] <airreson> can someone help me? the sollution to this problem is that a module need to be loaded... but every time i use modprobe it has errors
[03:33] <snooze> frogzoo: nice point
[03:33] <barry> frogzoo: At the moment, I can only boot from the CD.
[03:33] <CosmoDad> Hysty: I want it to automount, I just want it to work correctly
[03:33] <tEoti> how do you upgrade to dapper withouth using an install cd? or live cd?
[03:33] <CosmoDad> _jason: what package would you suggest to file the bug in: hal, hotplug?
[03:33] <tEoti> is it possible?
[03:33] <scam> anyone know how to fix the muting problem i got.. when i click mute only my front speakers mute.. my surrounds stay active
[03:33] <_jason> CosmoDad: erm, I don't know.  Just use your best judgement I guess
[03:33] <frogzoo> barry: don't see what the big deal is - just run xp's fixmbr & done
[03:34] <Mordof> scam, alsamixer.. maybe you have to change some settings? i dunno
[03:34] <barry> frogzoo: That's from the XP install disk?
[03:34] <Mordof> scam, any chance you could help me get my surround working though?
[03:34] <CosmoDad> _jason: ok
[03:34] <scam> Mordof, sure what snd card?
[03:34] <frogzoo> barry: yup
[03:34] <Mordof> scam, how do i find that out? i forget off hand
[03:34] <_jason> Dtragcoen: did it stay that way?  mine does that for a few seconds
[03:34] <barry> frogzoo: Groovy. I'll try that.
[03:35] <punkrockguy318> Is there any way to get evolution to sort by thread like in Mozilla Thunderbird? in dapper/breezy?
[03:35] <snooze> qomg, that music is so ill :)
[03:35] <Mordof> scam, its onboard for the MSI KM4M-L motherboard
[03:35] <CosmoDad> how can I change the default editor from nano to vi?
[03:35] <bigmoe> how to install rpm files without alien anyone know
[03:35] <snooze> allright guys, my gnome startup notification window appears on the WRONG display, how can i fix that?
[03:35] <steeltoes12345> can anyone tell me what are the min system requirements for ubuntu?
[03:36] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: export EDITOR=vi
[03:36] <snooze> CosmoDad: sudo apt-get install vim, echo 'export EDITOR=vim' >> ~/.bash_profile
[03:36] <Mordof> VIA 8235 it says in the audio controls
[03:36] <snooze> s/,/;/
[03:36] <_jason> steeltoes12345: 128mb ram, ~2GB hard drive space
[03:36] <CosmoDad> Xenguy: snooze .bash_profile or .bashrc?
[03:36] <steeltoes12345> ok
[03:36] <dontodd> anybody able to get decent ripping speeds in breezy?
[03:36] <snooze> CosmoDad: uhm
[03:36] <snooze> CosmoDad: good point, test it.
[03:36] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: use grip
[03:37] <CosmoDad> snooze: wasn't there a dpkg-reconfigure'd interface to switch the default editor?
[03:37] <Fub> can anyone help me? I'm running ubuntu on my laptop with the external usb hard disks attaced. During install it detected the hard disks and put them in fstab but when I actually boot ubuntu it can't find them. (untill later when hotplug runs)
[03:37] <_jason> CosmoDad: sudo update-alternatives --config editor, should work too
[03:37] <snooze> why are my both twinview monitors twisted goddamnit and why does KDE not impress that at all but gnome? :)
[03:37] <lord_crow> hi all
[03:37] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: .bash_profile for env settings
[03:37] <snooze> CosmoDad: uhm!
[03:37] <steeltoes12345> jason:  i have that.  also running on an older AMD K6 400mhz proccessor.   128mb of ram, 6.4 gig hdd.    and it runs SLOW
[03:37] <lord_crow> are the Xgl packs for dapper flight 3 amd64 ?
[03:37] <snooze> CosmoDad: don't know
[03:37] <CosmoDad> _jason: just found it too, thx
[03:37] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: I've tried grip and sound juicer, disabled extra paranoia + skip detection, and I'm only getting 1x
[03:37] <snooze> Xenguy: thx :)
[03:37] <airreson> can someone help me? the sollution to this problem is that a module need to be loaded... but every time i use modprobe it has errors
[03:38] <Xenguy> snooze: :-)
[03:38] <scam> Mordof, you get my pm?
[03:38] <_jason> steeltoes12345: well that's why they are the min sys requirements probably.  Try running Xubuntu instead
[03:38] <CosmoDad> Xenguy, snooze: I need it globaly set, gonna use update-alternatives
[03:38] <snooze> Xenguy: :-P
[03:38] <steeltoes12345> jason: oviously that is expected with my hardware. but is there anything i can do to "speed it up??"
[03:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell steeltoes12345 about xubuntu
[03:38] <snooze> CosmoDad: i don't think so
[03:38] <Mordof> scam, no
[03:38] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: /etc/profile
[03:38] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: I have dma enabled
[03:38] <snooze> CosmoDad: why don't you just use the responsible file in /etc?
[03:38] <beloy0820> hello fellow ubuntu user
[03:38] <scam> message me Mordof
[03:38] <steeltoes12345> what is xubuntu??
[03:38] <Mordof> scam, last time that happened from my friend, she wasnt registered
[03:38] <_jason> steeltoes12345: it's ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome
[03:38] <Xenguy> steeltoes12345: ubu w/ xfce4
[03:39] <Phuzion> My friend is trying to set up a server, and he can't get pure-ftpd to work
[03:39] <steeltoes12345> what is xfce?
[03:39] <CosmoDad> snooze: because I think global changes is what update-alternatives is good for
[03:39] <JDigital_> ubotu, tell JDigital_ about dualboot
[03:39] <beloy0820> can ask something what application will run my mp3 files for ubuntu
[03:39] <JDigital_> xmms
[03:39] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: /etc/profile
[03:39] <Xenguy> :-)
[03:39] <Phuzion> !pure-ftpd
[03:39] <ubotu> Phuzion: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:39] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: dma?
[03:39] <snooze> CosmoDad: i never used update-alternatives and would do it the same way as Xenguy.
[03:39] <dontodd> steeltoes12345: it's a lightweight desktop environment
[03:39] <_jason> steeltoes12345: http://www.xfce.org
[03:39] <lord_crow> is the Xgl server pack for dapper flight 3 amd64 done?(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129772)
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> beloy0820: Whatever you want.  But see !mp3
[03:40] <snooze> Xenguy: so, be my buddy and tell my why the hell my twinview setup is twisted :)
[03:40] <Xenguy> snooze: never touched TV :-)
[03:40] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: yeah, I hear you're supposed to enable dma (hdparm) on the cd drive
[03:40] <scam> Mordof, can you see it now?
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: all the stuff (panels and so on, kde startup screen) appears on the left exactly as i want it to, but the gnome startup thing is on the right and if i start a terminal in gnome on the LEFT one it appears on the RIGHT and i don't know how to fix it ;)
[03:41] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: oh i thought you were talking about evolution,, yeah enabling dma helps a little.. not a big difference though... but grip is faster than souund juicer, because grip simeltaniously rips and encodes, where sj rips, then encodes... excuse my poor spelling
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: and it must be some stuff i've screwed up by myself :)
[03:41] <Xenguy> snooze: outta my league :-)
[03:41] <nmm> dang, another questions for you guys... i need to install openSSL and openSSL headers, where do i get it?
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: but i can't remember what! :)
[03:41] <snooze> (:
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: it's no prob with kde and currently i'm kde'ing :)
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: so good luck
[03:41] <SupaDupa> hi
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: i can just do it the next days
[03:42] <Xenguy> snooze: cheers
[03:42] <snooze> Xenguy: but it annoys me to be too stupid to find out :/
[03:42] <snooze> hehe
[03:42] <snooze> cheers :)
[03:42] <Xenguy> snooze: sometimes just waiting a few days fixes things ;-)
[03:42] <barry> frogzoo: fixmbr seems to think it worked for me. Thanks!
[03:42] <snooze> oh yeah, drinking way too much this evening *g*
[03:42] <barry> snooze: Thanks for the help, snooze!
[03:42] <SupaDupa> I just installed ubuntu and it rocks
[03:42] <Xenguy> hehe
[03:42] <snooze> Xenguy: LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[03:42] <CanadianSnow> so.... how do I get permissions for the file browser?
[03:43] <Xenguy> SupaDupa: congrats
[03:43] <snooze> Xenguy: may i add that quote on my blog?
[03:43] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: I see, this is a newly built box with a lite-on drive and I can't figure out why it won't rip any faster. LIke I said, 1x!
[03:43] <_jason> SupaDupa: yes it does, welcome
[03:43] <Xenguy> snooze: /me shrugs
[03:43] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: yeah, i had that problem too
[03:43] <SupaDupa> thanks
[03:43] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: try grip and dma
[03:43] <snooze> barry: does it work? :)
[03:43] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: what's wrong?
[03:44] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: did you do anything else? I've used grip and dma--no difference
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> cant move folder from desktop to another folder (Xenguy or anyone)
[03:44] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: the speeds still don't compare with windows, i think it's partially just the audio cd driver...
[03:44] <dontodd> :(
[03:44] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: your sitll getting 1x with grip?
[03:44] <barry> snooze: (Sad to say) I just booted into windoze. Not too sad, I guess, as tha'ts what I was asking to do. Pity I can't talk my wife into turning into a penguinista.
[03:44] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: which folder?
[03:44] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: yes
[03:44] <SupaDupa> I cant believe how much and how easy it is to install software
[03:44] <Phuzion> SupaDupa:  People work hard so you don't have to.
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> plugins for amsn....
[03:45] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: that's strange... try fiddling around with some options in grip
[03:45] <nmm> anyone know how to get openSSL?
[03:45] <SupaDupa> no doubt
[03:45] <snooze> barry: pity that it is your wife and not your shorttimegirlfriend you could replace with a female geek ;)
[03:45] <Phuzion> nmm:  sudo apt-get install openssl
[03:45] <barry> snooze: LOL.
[03:45] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: sounds like a permissions problem of some kind (read the fine print :-)
[03:45] <Phuzion> ubotu, tell nmm about apt-get
[03:45] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: the ripping situation doesn't compare with mac and win unfortunately... that driver definitely needs some work, as audio cds can't even been mounted natively
[03:45] <CanadianSnow> what fine print?!?!? *cries* (Xenguy)
[03:45] <nmm> thank you sir
[03:46] <CosmoDad> _jason: I'm not sure how to use Malone... the bug has already been filed, but its status is "unconfirmed". Should I change it to "confirmed" and add a comment, or is that something people at higher rank should do?
[03:46] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: permissions are usually a needle/haystack type scenario; just check all the permissions to see if you are allowed to move files to the destination you want
[03:46] <snooze> barry: sorry ;)
[03:46] <_jason> CosmoDad: I don't know that myself, I usualyl just post a comment saying I experienced the problem as well
[03:47] <CosmoDad> _jason: you know whether there are guidelines somewhere?
[03:47] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: ls -l to check file/dir permissions
[03:47] <nmm> dang its still saying it cant find it
[03:47] <Madpilot> CosmoDad: there are bug-filing guidelines on the wiki somewhere - just a minute
[03:47] <CosmoDad> Madpilot: ok..
[03:48] <IdleOne> amphi:  openbox runs smooth. thanks! :)
[03:48] <Phuzion> nmm
[03:48] <Phuzion> Type sudo apt-get install openssl
[03:48] <Phuzion> It's there.
[03:48] <Pablo> I need to run this command before x starts up... it has to be run a root or sudo.... any ideas on how to do it? "915resolution 3c 1400 1050"
[03:48] <CanadianSnow> !permissions
[03:48] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[03:48] <CanadianSnow> that works
[03:48] <snooze> Pablo: that's a bad workaround.
[03:49] <beloy0820> xmms work fine tnx guys
[03:49] <Pablo> snooze... what is the good workaround?
[03:49] <_jason> CosmoDad: Madpilot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs
[03:49] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs
[03:49] <Pablo> snooze,  that is the only thing that I have found to work
[03:49] <Madpilot> _jason: heh
[03:49] <CanadianSnow> AHHHHHHHHHHH wtf is this? :p
[03:49] <snooze> Pablo: if you really want to execute this, make a .xinitrc with "sudo 915resolution 3c 1400 1050; yourpenisenlargingwindowmanager" and save it and remove gdm
[03:49] <snooze> Pablo: there is another way that works.
[03:49] <w32> hey has anyone ever setup asterisk on ubuntu ?
[03:49] <snooze> Pablo: i'm sure.
[03:50] <Phuzion> Well, now that I have assisted my friend into the realm of IRC, I will be leaving, Chris, don't be afraid to ask questions, people don't bite in here.
[03:50] <w32> any resources or help on how to
[03:50] <CosmoDad> _jason, Madpilot: thx
[03:50] <houman_zhu> hello everyone, i just installed ubuntu and trying to follow a guide on the forum for installing azurues, but it is hacing problems, it keeps asking to download the same update (some swt-linux file ) it downloads it , restarts it and prompts for downloading it again
[03:50] <Phuzion> Farewell everyone
[03:50] <w32> cya
[03:50] <snooze> C:\DOS> del w32.exe
[03:50] <snooze> :)
[03:50] <Pablo> snooze what goes in the penis...blahblah blah part?
[03:50] <snooze> Pablo: e.g. "fluxbox" or "wmaker"
[03:50] <snooze> Pablo: whatever you find useful
[03:51] <w32> snooze: was that @ me ? :-)
[03:51] <snooze> Pablo: in most cases this will just be "gnome-session" or "startkde"
[03:51] <snooze> w32: yes :)
[03:51] <Pablo> sudo requires a password
[03:51] <snooze> Pablo: that's why it is a bad workaround ;)
[03:51] <w32> hehe-yeah I picked it on a forum w32.n00b.worm
[03:51] <w32> just stuck
[03:52] <Pablo> so x doesnt start snooze if I do it that way
[03:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell houman_zhu about azureus
[03:52] <snooze> find / -name "w32.exe" -exec rm -rf {};\
[03:52] <snooze> whatever
[03:52] <CosmoDad> _jason: just fyi: the interesting part concerning confirmation of a bug is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks
[03:52] <snooze> just talking drunk stuff
[03:52] <_jason> CosmoDad: thanks
[03:52] <w32> sure sure anyway you ever set up asterisk on ubuntu
[03:53] <w32> I'm not liking aah much
[03:53] <Pablo> snooze, so "sudo 915resolution 3c 1400 1050; gnome-session"
[03:53] <houman_zhu> _jason: thank you
[03:53] <snooze> Pablo: if you do this it should rock, yes.
[03:53] <jodanlime> I'm really bored
[03:53] <ubuntu> sss
[03:53] <snooze> Pablo: as just said, you wanted it to be executed BEFORE x starts up and i guess that isn't right at all.
[03:53] <Pablo> snooze,  what about the password entry for sudo command
[03:54] <ubuntu> fuck ubuntu
[03:54] <ubuntu> fuvk ubuntu
[03:54] <snooze> Pablo: what should be about that? i told you it's a bloody damned workaround and you don't want it.
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: Either watch the language or have someone watch it for you.
[03:54] <snooze> could anyone please kick ubuntu? :)
[03:54] <Pablo> mee
[03:54] <ubuntu> fuvck
[03:54] <ubuntu> fuck
[03:54] <_jason> !ops
[03:54] <houman_zhu> _jason: i double checked, its all what i did, except i got java 1.5 instead of 1.4 which is what is in the link you gave me
[03:54] <ubotu> Ops are annoying.
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> !ops
[03:54] <Pablo> snooze, no reason to be a pric about it
[03:54] <jodanlime> anybody gotta good game for me to check out?
[03:54] <_jason> ffs
[03:54] <ubuntu> fuckkk
[03:54] <ubuntu> siktir git lan
[03:54] <snooze> ubuntu: fuck you ;)
[03:55] <ubuntu> kz
[03:55] <snooze> sikerim!
[03:55] <snooze> ollum!
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> seven mississippi....
[03:55] <eidolon> hey folks, anyone had problems with using the arts plugin in amarok?  i'm selecting arts-engine (since i use arts with KDE), but when i hit 'play', nothing happens.  it doesn't even change to the 'pause' button.  just never plays.
[03:55] <w32> websudoku is a cool game
[03:55] <ubuntu> fuck ubuntu
[03:55] <Madpilot> Seveas: ping
[03:55] <ubuntu> nfts read ?
[03:55] <snooze> ubuntu: we know it now ;)
[03:55] <snooze> ubuntu: it's ntfs, not nfts.
[03:55] <snooze> ubuntu: and it's goddamn easy
[03:55] <ubuntu> nfts read my
[03:55] <ubuntu> ?
[03:55] <snooze> nTFs
[03:55] <snooze> learn it.
[03:55] <ubuntu> anayn amina kolumu sokm
[03:55] <ubuntu> itioglu it
[03:55] <ubuntu> fuckk
[03:55] <snooze> ubuntu: merhaba ;(
[03:55] <ubuntu> fuck ubuntu
[03:56] <elkbuntu> seveas?
[03:56] <nmm> Phuzion, thats what i was typing i didnt mean the install was not working
[03:56] <ubuntu> yeah debian
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> C'mon ops, please?
[03:56] <snooze> ubuntu: you annoy my nerves and you are boring ;)
[03:56] <nmm> the program im trying to install is not wanting to install
[03:56] <ubuntu> fuck ubuntu
[03:56] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: someone has wrecked the !ops tell...
[03:56] <ubuntu> teah debian
[03:56] <Ocius> Hello all
[03:56] <snooze> ubuntu: that is you ;)
[03:56] <ubuntu> yeah debian
[03:56] <w32> is ubuntu a bot ?
[03:56] <jodanlime> ubuntu, its getting old
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[03:56] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Uh oh.
[03:56] <snooze> ubuntu: so you want yourself being fucked?
[03:56] <ubuntu> fuck ubuntu
[03:56] <snooze> ubuntu: so you want yourself being fucked?
[03:56] <elkbuntu> !ops
[03:56] <ubotu> Ops are annoying.
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> 'k.
[03:56] <jodanlime> yeah, I think he is a bot
[03:56] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: yeah, I just msg'd cafuego & Seveas...
[03:56] <ubuntu> ubuntu fuckedd
[03:56] <_jason> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[03:56] <snooze> hm
[03:56] <w32> acts like it
[03:56] <ubuntu> snooze fucked
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Ya beat me to it.
[03:56] <Madpilot> _jason: thanks!
[03:57] <ubuntu> fuckk
[03:57] <snooze> <- ! ;)
[03:57] <w32> can't kill him
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[03:57] <w32> ?
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[03:57] <snooze> allright, everyone type "/ignore ubuntu"
[03:57] <ubuntu> w32 fuckk
[03:57] <snooze> ;)
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> !ops
[03:57] <ubuntu> sieee
[03:57] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[03:57] <ubuntu> fuck ubuntu
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Took it back!
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[03:57] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I just restored it
[03:57] <w32> flooder bots go away with nickserv
[03:57] <snooze> uuuuuhm
[03:57] <w32> or not ?
[03:58] <snooze> Pablo: so where did we stop?
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[03:58] <w32> hard to tell with flooders
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[03:58] <tonyyarusso> What's the masters-of-freenode channel?
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[03:58] <snooze> w32: type "/ignore ubuntu"
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[03:58] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: #freenode
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[03:58] <jodanlime> I just freaking tried the "/ignore" thing and it worked like nothing!
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[03:58] <catchphrase> i changed video cards (geforce2pro to trident 8meg, sad ugly story) and it tells me i have to reconfigure X. any help with that?
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[03:59] <w32> "/ignore Ubutnu"
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[03:59] <snooze> jodanlime: take irssi!
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[03:59] <makaveli> who the fuck is that
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[03:59] <snooze> w32: typo
[03:59] <ubuntu> v
[03:59] <jodanlime> snooze, whats irssi?
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[03:59] <Ocius> there isnt flood control on this
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[03:59] <CosmoDad> somebody ban him..
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[03:59] <snooze> jodanlime: it's really cool.
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[04:00] <jodanlime> snooze, I'm using x-chat cuz it came with ubuntu
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[04:00] <snooze> jodanlime: irssi should ship with ubuntu, too!
[04:00] <Ocius> sure could use some assistance with my dvd drive and it not mounting properly
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[04:00] <ubuntu> what ignore ?
[04:00] <ubuntu> what is ignore?
[04:00] <snooze> jodanlime: try typing that in a console window: "irssi"
[04:00] <jodanlime> is it comand line?
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[04:00] <jodanlime> IGNORE ubuntu
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[04:00] <_jason> jodanlime: put a slash before it
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[04:01] <tonyyarusso> Only one Freenode staff on right now!
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[04:01] <snooze> jodanlime: just do "irssi -c irc.freenode.net"
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[04:01] <snooze> jodanlime: and then "/j ubuntu"
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[04:01] <snooze> jodanlime: and you're back here.
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[04:01] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, then get them here
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[04:01] <Ocius> would anyone like to help me set up my dvd drive proplery/
[04:01] <ubuntu> msn       sanaldestek@gmail.com
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[04:01] <snooze> i LOVE my computer.
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[04:01] <Eleaf> hmm
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[04:01] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Trying.
[04:01] <ubuntu> msn       sanaldestek@gmail.com
[04:01] <Eleaf> ubutyour silly
[04:01] <ubuntu> msn       sanaldestek@gmail.com
[04:01] <Ocius> just say  yes or no
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[04:02] <Eleaf> ubuntu,  omg
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[04:02] <Eleaf> ubuntu,  what's up with yoou?
[04:02] <bimberi> !ops
[04:02] <ubotu> ops is probably Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:02] <Eleaf> ubuntu, go away!@!
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[04:02] <Madpilot> Ocius: pastebin the error message, just for starters
[04:02] <scam> is there a way to mute pcm and master at the same time?
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[04:02] <Juhaz> lack of brains, what else?
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[04:02] <snooze> Help!
[04:02] <Eleaf> ubuntu, stop
[04:02] <Eleaf> lol
[04:02] <robotgeek> everyone, just type "/ignore ubuntu"
[04:02] <snooze> :)
[04:02] <Eleaf> snooze, ahhh
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[04:02] <Ocius> ignore isnt doing shit for me
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[04:02] <makaveli> this biatch is out of mind
[04:02] <Eleaf> rob^^^, smart!
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[04:03] <snooze> i got him ignored, so i don't mind! :)
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[04:03] <Ocius> Who here knows anything about ubuntu
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[04:03] <snooze> Ocius: nobody here knows.
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[04:03] <elkbuntu> he's pingable :)
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[04:04] <CuriousCat> what the freaking hell?! Who the hell is this ubuntu idiot?!
[04:04] <snooze> jodanlime: as just said. "irssi -c irc.freenode.net"
[04:04] <elkbuntu> someone pwn him or something
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[04:04] <slide> /ignore ubuntu*!*@* ALL
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> How to I switch to numbers higher than 9 in irrsi?
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[04:04] <jodanlime> I did that
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[04:04] <Ocius> i swear you people ahve never seena  bot or something
[04:04] <Madpilot> Ocius: wait until we get rid of this moron, then ask again...
[04:04] <snooze> jodanlime: then just join here.
[04:04] <_jason> jodanlime: http://irssi.org/documentation/startup
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[04:04] <robotgeek> jodanlime: open up irc, "/connect irc.freenode.net"
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[04:04] <elkbuntu> slide thats fine except then we'll be ignoring all newbies who come in who dont change their name from the default settings
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[04:04] <snooze> _jason: he won't need it
[04:04] <w32> got rid of him
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[04:04] <slide> elkbuntu, and? ;)
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[04:04] <eidolon> wtf?
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[04:04] <tonyyarusso> w32: Wait, what?
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[04:05] <Eleaf> lol
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[04:05] <Eleaf> snooze, ;)
[04:05] <Eleaf> ubuntu, nobody loves you now.
[04:05] <CanadianSnow> /kick ubuntu
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[04:05] <_jason> snooze: oh, thought he was interested in learning about irssi, this is just a temporary thing then I guess
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[04:05] <Eleaf> elkbuntu, lets do a dos attack.
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[04:05] <snooze> Eleaf: hm?
[04:05] <Eleaf> lol
[04:05] <snooze> :)
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[04:05] <Eleaf> asdf
[04:05] <Eleaf> we should email him
[04:05] <Eleaf> lol
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[04:05] <CanadianSnow> why are there no chan ops in here anyways?
[04:05] <Eleaf> snooze, lol
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[04:05] <w32> any way has anyone any experience with setting up asterisk on ubuntu
[04:05] <Eleaf> snooze, yea, everybody should email him
[04:05] <snooze> DDOS ATTAAAAAAAAAAACK! LET'S GO! :) hehe
[04:05] <Xenguy> !ops
[04:05] <ubotu> hmm... ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
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[04:05] <elkbuntu> eleaf if i knew how, i would, actually, wait a second, i know someone who can help...
[04:05] <ubuntu> l.comv
[04:05] <snooze> (:
[04:05] <Madpilot> Eleaf: I doubt that's this morons actual email or msn address....
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[04:05] <w32> got his ip addy ?
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[04:05] <snooze> god i like this fuckin internet :)
[04:05] <Xenguy> kill ubuntu
[04:06] <Eleaf> Madpilot, ah.. oh well lol
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[04:06] <grim76> for some reason ignore in xchat is not working for me.  Time to switch back to irssi
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> ubotu tell ubuntu to shut up
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[04:06] <Ocius> whats the point of ops if you go afk
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[04:06] <elkbuntu> w32 rightclick and look at his hostmask
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[04:06] <snooze> Ocius: penis enlargement.
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[04:06] <Eleaf> I have his ip
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[04:06] <CanadianSnow> someone hack him
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[04:06] <elkbuntu> 85.101.118.54 is his ip people
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[04:06] <Xenguy> !ops
[04:06] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
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[04:06] <scam> does gdm have its own mouse config ?
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[04:06] <CanadianSnow> just kill his connection or something
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[04:07] <snooze> scam: no.
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[04:07] <holobyted> has anyone here succeeded at using VMware w/ sound? it insists on using /dev/dsp and it's not working
[04:07] <CanadianSnow> (s)he totally deserves it
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[04:07] <w32> enumerating now
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[04:07] <Toma-> i love it when gentoo'ers get pissed.
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[04:07] <triceratops> where will I find the kubuntu.py file which is used for wiki.ubunut.org's kubuntu style? I've wget'ing the css and img directory but can't find the *.py files
[04:07] <Eleaf> lol
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[04:07] <snooze> everyone ping -f him and it should work :)
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[04:07] <CanadianSnow> holobyted are you trying to get sound going?
[04:07] <jodanlime> all right, I couldnt get irssi to work, but under xchat if you right click a name you can ignore him
[04:07] <Eleaf> yay johndarkhorse
[04:07] <Eleaf> lol
[04:07] <snooze> johndarkhorse: thx
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> john's back!
[04:07] <CuriousCat> YAY!!!
[04:07] <tzadik> hi
[04:07] <Xenguy> johndarkhorse: tx
[04:07] <holobyted> can-o-worms, yeah
[04:07] <holobyted> err, make that canadian.
[04:07] <Eleaf> lol...
[04:07] <jodanlime> johndarkhorse, is god
[04:07] <Eleaf> hm
[04:07] <_jason> johndarkhorse: to the rescue
[04:08] <eidolon> jayzus that was fun.
[04:08] <Eleaf> that was actually kinda intersting
[04:08] <tzadik> what is the best way to get a windows xp laptop to talk to my ubuntu box using wireless
[04:08] <elkbuntu> you are our hero johndarkhorse
[04:08] <Eleaf> it was like a pattern!
[04:08] <Eleaf> lol
[04:08] <jodanlime> wow, that was really sucky for me
[04:08] <_jason> everyone remember to unignore ubuntu since that's the nick for newcomers
[04:08] <tzadik> the laptop is wireless
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> How can I switch numbers 10 and up in irssi?
[04:08] <robotgeek>  /uignore ubuntu
[04:08] <tzadik> and my ubuntu box is hard-wired to the router
[04:08] <_jason> tonyyarusso: qwertyuiop
[04:08] <Xenguy> _jason: good point
[04:08] <CanadianSnow> ummm what holobyted?
[04:08] <snooze> tonyyarusso: /help bind
[04:08] <holobyted> canadiansnow, yeah.. I'm trying to get sound going under VMware
[04:08] <snooze> tonyyarusso: you can even bind !"$%&/( and so on
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> _jason, snooze: thanks.
[04:08] <snooze> tonyyarusso: and uppercase letters
[04:08] <Juhaz> tonyyarusso, go one row lower, qwerty...
[04:09] <snooze> tonyyarusso: i got binds until 40 or so
[04:09] <CanadianSnow> is it just a music player? (Holobyted)
[04:09] <w32> he's blocking icmp echos
[04:09] <snooze> tonyyarusso: if you want those shortcuts, let me know and i paste them.
[04:09] <holobyted> ...no, VMware is another thing
[04:09] <w32> blocking stealth scans
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> snooze: You can throw 'em in #tonyyarusso if you'd like.
[04:09] <snooze> w32: 1337! :)
[04:09] <w32> pix maybe ?
[04:09] <Xenguy> w32: so he's firewalled
[04:09] <w32> yeah
[04:09] <Eleaf> lol
[04:10] <CanadianSnow> k i dont think I can help... im a beginner with ubuntu...
[04:10] <Toma-> no way... hes using iptables :O
[04:10] <w32> bfd digging still
[04:10] <tzadik> any ideas on the laptop question?
[04:10] <kennethd> tzadik, what kind of talking do you want them to do?  samba?
[04:10] <tzadik> i want to open an x session
[04:10] <Tuxiscool> I just tried installing dapper's initramfs-tools, and now my computer won't boot. It starts with the messages "Segmentation Fault" a few times, then spurts out: "ALERT! Could not find device /dev/sda5! Dropping to a shell" Anyone know what I could do to fix it?
[04:10] <tzadik> login to my ubuntu box
[04:11] <jodanlime> how would I unignore ubuntu?
[04:11] <Tuxiscool> Oops, /dev/hda5, I mean.
[04:11] <Xenguy> !tell Tuxiscool about dapper
[04:11] <holobyted> anyone else?
[04:11] <_jason> jodanlime: /unignore ubuntu, in irssi at least
[04:11] <Ocius> oh hes gone now
[04:11] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, install breezy?
[04:11] <CanadianSnow> oh... I still needa know how to open the file browser with root permissions
[04:11] <Ocius> Ok, can anyone help me fix my dvd drive to work correctly
[04:11] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, file a bug and wait for a patch
[04:11] <jodanlime> _jason, I couldnt get anything to happen on irssi
[04:11] <tzadik> not files
[04:12] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I want to find a temporary solution.
[04:12] <kennethd> tzadik, I've never done that... I think you want a vnc server
[04:12] <tzadik> basically, the problem is
[04:12] <Ocius> it will mount cds fine but not dvds
[04:12] <grim76> Tuxiscool: did you try booting to a previous kernel?
[04:12] <Toma-> Ocius, whats it doing?
[04:12] <tzadik> my ubuntu box is in my home office
[04:12] <tzadik> connected to my router
[04:12] <Ocius> Ok
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> All right, I'm going to temporarily change my nick to ubuntu so everyone can test their unignores, 'k?
[04:12] <tzadik> and i want to sit on my sofa in the living room
[04:12] <Tuxiscool> grim76, I didn't update the kernel, just initramfs-tools.
[04:12] <tzadik> and work on it
[04:12] <tzadik> using the laptop
[04:12] <Ocius> it will load cds fine but not dvds, when i try to open it, it pops the window up and i see the files real fast then it closes
[04:12] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, check your fstab
[04:12] <ubuntu> You should all see this, since it's the default nick that many new users come on as!
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> tony dont uoi have to say something?
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> there ya go :p
[04:12] <tzadik> the laptop has to have windows because it's owned by my work
[04:13] <grim76> Tuxiscool: ahh ok nm.....
[04:13] <ubuntu> There, good 'nough.
[04:13] <tzadik> got it?
[04:13] <Ocius> when i click on cd-rw/dvd+R drive i get this error : Warning: device /dev/hda is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[04:13] <Ocius> mount: mount point /media/cdrom/0 does not exist
[04:13] <Ocius> Error: could not execute pmount
[04:13] <tzadik> i tried netSarang but it could not connect
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> so who knows how to browse files with write permissions?
[04:14] <maxkelley> root? :P
[04:14] <Ocius> canadian, is it ntfs partition?
[04:14] <Toma-> Ocius, have yo editted fstab at all?
[04:14] <Ocius> some
[04:14] <Ocius> lemme copy it into here
[04:14] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[04:14] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:14] <jodanlime> CanadianSnow, try 'sudo nautilus' in the console
[04:14] <kennethd> tzadik, look @ apt-cache show vncserver
[04:14] <Ocius> Pasting
[04:14] <Ocius> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:14] <Ocius> #
[04:14] <Ocius> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:14] <Ocius> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdd1       /media/         vfat    defaults        0       0
[04:14] <Toma-> Ocius, dont paste in here. use pastebin ^^^
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:14] <CanadianSnow> ty
[04:14] <Toma-> !ops
[04:14] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom/0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/sda        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdd5       /media/slave/        vfat    defaults        0       0
[04:15] <Ocius> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[04:15] <Xenguy> !tell Ocius about paste
[04:15] <IdleOne> Ocius: not in here
[04:15] <GnoNayme> any1 install mono under ubuntu and get the nautilus icons to work
[04:15] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, /dev/hda5 (the one it can't find) is my swap partition, my root fs is /dev/hda6.
[04:15] <snooze> re.
[04:15] <Ocius> ok, im back
[04:15] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, intresting. can you run "swapon" ?
[04:16] <Ocius> wish i wasnt kicked for not knowing
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> Ocius: do you read channel /topics when you enter irc channels?
[04:16] <Ocius> even though the flooder was here for like 20 minutes
[04:16] <bimberi> Ocius: /topic
[04:16] <Xenguy> Ocius: /topic
[04:16] <snooze> did anyone of you compile a 2.6.15.4 kernel in ubuntu?
[04:16] <Ocius> Ocius doesnt use IRC
[04:16] <Ocius> plain and simple
[04:16] <Ocius> i know enough to access it
[04:16] <w32> here he is http://pastebin.com/555381
[04:16] <Toma-> did you read the topic when you joined the channel?
[04:16] <w32> couple open ports
[04:16] <Ocius> no
[04:16] <Toma-> the big sentence that gets thrown at you when you join?
[04:16] <Ocius> i didnt
[04:17] <Ocius> I know what you mean
[04:17] <Xenguy> Ocius: now you know
[04:17] <Ocius> yes now i know
[04:17] <nmm> anyone ever install nessus on ubuntu?
[04:17] <robotgeek> Ocius: it's always a good idea to read those :)
[04:17] <Ocius> i find it funny that a flooder can stay in here for so long and i get kicked for not knowing
[04:17] <w32> is he still at it I ignored him
[04:17] <Xenguy> !anyone
[04:17] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:17] <robotgeek> Ocius: such is life
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> w32: No.  You should unignore the nick now.
[04:17] <snooze> Xenguy: :)
[04:17] <Ocius> Toma
[04:18] <Ocius> did you read what i pasted
[04:18] <snooze> did anyone ever use !anyone in here? :)
[04:18] <Toma-> w32, couldnt find your nmap dir i see? :)
[04:18] <Ocius> or must i re paste in this site
[04:18] <snooze> Xenguy: allright.
[04:18] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I ran it ('swapon /dev/hda5) and I get no output.
[04:18] <w32> heheh yeah forgot I don't use this lappy much
[04:18] <snooze> who's using 2.6.15.4 on ubuntu?
[04:18] <w32> did he get kicked/banned or did my metasploit kill him
[04:18] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I'm using the dapper installer rescue system at the moment.
[04:19] <snooze> w32: lol
[04:19] <Ocius> http://pastebin.com/555384
[04:19] <Ocius> Toma -- http://pastebin.com/555384
[04:19] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, you need to chroot
[04:19] <Tuxiscool> Hm? My root fs is mounted.
[04:19] <Toma-> w32, he got kickbanned. also, hes got an ftp server up i telneted it :)
[04:20] <w32> anonymous ?
[04:20] <Toma-> w32, and a dlink router
[04:20] <jodanlime> !anyone
[04:20] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:20] <Ocius> Toma-- any ideas?
[04:20] <Toma-> w32, i logged into his router :D hahahaha.
[04:20] <w32> default pass ?
[04:21] <iRRVi> hey!
[04:21] <w32> what is it ?
[04:21] <Toma-> admin:admin
[04:21] <grim76> Toma-: you have got to be kidding me he did not change the defaults.
[04:21] <iRRVi> you stole my question!
[04:21] <elkbuntu> if anyone is still doing stuff to the flooder, stop so he can be dealt with properly :)
[04:21] <w32> lmao
[04:21] <Toma-> telnet port 23
[04:21] <w32> k
[04:21] <Toma-> hahaha.
[04:21] <Ocius> Toma - http://pastebin.com/555384
[04:21] <Toma-> i got out, feel free to write the firmware of /dev/urandom
[04:21] <Toma-> :D
[04:21] <iRRVi> dont you say 'he didnt change the defualts" to me, i just go tit
[04:22] <iRRVi> *it
[04:22] <bigmoe> anyone knows how to anonymous browsing in ubuntu
[04:22] <snooze> either it's painful slow or it doesn't work at all.
[04:22] <snooze> bigmoe: the question does not make sense.
[04:22] <grim76> lol deny his mac address from his own router
[04:22] <Toma-> so anyone cleaned his firmware? dont just reset it :( thats lame.
[04:22] <snooze> grim76: LOl
[04:22] <bigmoe> to brows the internet anonymously
[04:23] <Mordof> im having troubles playing dvds.. it keeps asking if i have libdvdcss installed, but when i go to apt-get it, i get an error
[04:23] <Mordof> and its not listed in synaptic
[04:23] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, swap partition seems to be working correctly.
[04:23] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, Know why it wouldn't find it on boot?
[04:23] <Toma-> Ocius, cat you run "ls /media" for me and put it in pastebin?
[04:23] <Mordof> do i need to add another repository for libdvdcss?
[04:23] <iRRVi> admin:admin doesnt work :-/
[04:24] <Ocius> sudo ls /media
[04:24] <Ocius> or what
[04:24] <Ocius> it just printed out 4 things in the terminal
[04:24] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, messing with init will kill alot of stuff.
[04:24] <Toma-> Ocius, all i need is the line about cdrom
[04:24] <Toma-> or both
[04:25] <Toma-> iRRVi, only 1 person can login at anytime
[04:25] <iRRVi> is admin the defualt password?
[04:25] <iRRVi> oh
[04:25] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, Should I try a fresh dapper install?
[04:25] <Ocius> toma- http://pastebin.com/555392
[04:25] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, its worth a shot.
[04:25] <bigmoe> another thing after installing fuse i didnt know which partition to mount
[04:25] <iRRVi> ...I'm working with aptitude and it says to enter the root password, doesn't work
[04:25] <Mordof> anyone know why i cant play dvds? Totem Player is saying its encrypted, and asks if im trying to play it without libdvdcss installed
[04:26] <w32> I gotta go to work bbl
[04:26] <Madpilot> iRRVi: by default the pw it wants is your own user pw
[04:26] <bigmoe> anyone got a clue iam using ubuntu and have winxp in the other
[04:26] <iRRVi> oh
[04:26] <iRRVi> lol, im a n00b
[04:26] <Madpilot> !tell iRRVi about sudo
[04:26] <Mordof> anyone?
[04:26] <Protocol1> Mordof: i had the same issue
[04:26] <Mordof> Protocol1, did you ever get it fixed?
[04:27] <Protocol1> have you tried using ogle?
[04:27] <Protocol1> no
[04:27] <Mordof> i dont know what to google for
[04:27] <Protocol1> sudo apt-get install ogle
[04:27] <Mordof> oh OGLE
[04:27] <Mordof> lol
[04:27] <Mordof> 1 sec
[04:27] <Protocol1> k
[04:28] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, edit fstab with "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and change '/media/cdrom/0' to '/media/cdrom'
[04:28] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I'll try ext3 instead of reiserfs, jusy for kicks :)
[04:28] <glick> excuse me anyone here use gschem?
[04:28] <glick> im trying to find a good program for digital circuit layout
[04:28] <Tuxiscool> just*
[04:28] <glick> gschem looks good
[04:28] <Mordof> libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[04:28] <glick> but it segfaults when i try to run it
[04:29] <Ocius> done now what
[04:29] <Toma-> looks like our flooder has fled.
[04:30] <Ocius> toma- still getting the same errors when trying to open it, want me to post the errors ina  pastebin?
[04:30] <Madpilot> Toma-: did you get to mess with his router?
[04:30] <Xenguy> Toma-: passwd?
[04:30] <app3dxf> could anyone help me with installing the ivtv drivers?
[04:30] <snooze> so did anyone change his dlink config?
[04:30] <Toma-> Ocius, yes plz
[04:30] <Toma-> Madpilot, was about to telnet a new firmware to it :(
[04:30] <app3dxf> I am having a problem compiling them, I think I have everything installed that I need, however, I am getting an error on make
[04:30] <X-GueSt> Does anyone has a GeForce FX5200 around here?
[04:30] <Toma-> Xenguy, IP is gone
[04:31] <app3dxf> FX5500, here
[04:31] <Xenguy> Toma-: heh I was just there
[04:31] <snooze> hmm
[04:31] <Madpilot> Toma-: for the wrong type of router, I hope :P
[04:31] <scam> why cant i veiw my hda1 *windows partition*
[04:31] <Toma-> oh yeh
[04:31] <X-GueSt> I only got about 1070fps on glxgears :f
[04:31] <X-GueSt> with mine
[04:31] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me with a wireless problem?
[04:31] <Toma-> Xenguy, looks like hes blocked it now :*(
[04:31] <Madpilot> !anyone
[04:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:31] <glick> any electrical engineers in here?
[04:31] <X-GueSt> I even disable agpgart from loading and Im using NvAGP
[04:31] <X-GueSt> there is no diference in the fps's :\
[04:32] <IXKoDiaKXI> My wireless card installed using ndiswrapper now i can see my router but cant connect to it
[04:32] <IXKoDiaKXI> any ideas?
[04:32] <Toma-> X-GueSt, what kinda card is it?
[04:32] <Ocius> Toma- i only have a dvd rw btw, no cdrom at all
[04:33] <X-GueSt> graphic card
[04:33] <X-GueSt> GF FX5200
[04:33] <X-GueSt> 128mb
[04:33] <Ocius> http://pastebin.com/555405
[04:33] <Madpilot> X-GueSt: glxgears isn't always reliable, I've heard - how does the card do with a real 3d game or app?
[04:33] <Xenguy> Toma-: yep, blocked
[04:34] <glick> is there an engineering channel on freenode?
[04:34] <Toma-> Ocius, and what does 'dmesg | tail' return?
[04:34] <X-GueSt> In unrealtournament its doesnt bad.. but I still got more fps on win..
[04:34] <IXKoDiaKXI> has anyone else had the problem of not being able to connect to any router after installing there wireless card?
[04:34] <X-GueSt> and im not emulating.. its instaled nativly
[04:35] <X-GueSt> I just wanted to see if someone had the same card.. and if he got only the same fps as I do
[04:35] <Toma-> X-GueSt, whats the fps difference between win and ubuntu in UT?
[04:35] <Ocius> Toma- http://pastebin.com/555409
[04:35] <X-GueSt> cause I got a friend with a GeForce MX440 using agpgart and he has 1300fps on glxgears :x
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> X-GueSt, do you use nvidia drivers?
[04:36] <Toma-> Ocius, looks like a bad CD.... ps. ive got ghost in the shell too :)
[04:36] <X-GueSt> Toma-, I got about 200fps in win.. and ubuntu 90/100fps
[04:36] <X-GueSt> 120 when im against a wall
[04:36] <Ocius> lemme try another ok
[04:36] <X-GueSt> (less textures)
[04:36] <Ocius> Btw
[04:36] <Ocius> i its not a bad cd
[04:36] <X-GueSt> nomasteryoda, yeh I do
[04:36] <Ocius> cause i was able to run it in windows fine
[04:36] <Toma-> Ocius, ok.
[04:36] <scam> why cant i veiw my hda1 *windows partition* says "i don't have permissions to view it"
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:36] <Ocius> trying another dvd
[04:36] <Ocius> and Yes GitS is an awesome show
[04:37] <cycom> Ocius: only if watched subbed. so there.
[04:37] <Toma-> :D ive got the first 3 dvds
[04:37] <Ocius> Toma- Same errors, and i only watched subbed anime.. dub = nub
[04:37] <ubuntu514> hi 5.10 live cd usr 33.6 :)
[04:38] <misfit_toy> ubuntu514: modem??
[04:38] <mordof> hurray! now i cant get into X!!
[04:38] <elkbuntu> yay
[04:38] <mordof> grrr.. im starting to regret deleting windows
[04:38] <ubuntu514> misfit_toy 5$
[04:38] <amphi> mordof: console is teh r0x0r ;)
[04:38] <Xenguy> mordof: patience
[04:38] <snooze> mordof: :)
[04:39] <mordof> amphi: not when i wanna watch dvds :(
[04:39] <snooze> mordof: what exactly doesn't work?
[04:39] <mordof> snooze: X failed to load up, apparently the drivers for my nvidia card didnt work right or something
[04:39] <Protocol1> mordof: you could have done a dual boot setup
[04:39] <amphi> mordof: mplayer -vo aa in console
[04:39] <ubuntu514> misfit_toy usr ext 28.8 33.6 for $5cdn
[04:39] <snooze> mordof: i had the same problem here some hours ago
[04:39] <Xenguy> mordof: and what changed?
[04:40] <mordof> Protocol1, i did, but then after i didnt use windows for a while i decided i could get rid of it
[04:40] <misfit_toy> ubuntu514: well that's certainly affordable
[04:40] <mordof> Xenguy: i restarted my computer, first restart after i had installed them
[04:40] <Xenguy> mordof: hrm, nvidia too, yes?
[04:40] <Protocol1> i run both just to get the bes to f both worlds
[04:40] <mordof> Xenguy: nvidia 6800 xt video card
[04:40] <Xenguy> mordof:  there's a HOWTO for that IIRC
[04:41] <Toma-> Ocius, back to your fstab, you have 2 entrys for /media/cdrom0 right?
[04:41] <mordof> Xenguy: didnt apply, it wouldnt work right, i didnt have the same kernel version it was compiled in
[04:41] <Ocius> yes
[04:41] <Ocius> it was two seperate attempts
[04:41] <ubuntu514> misfit_toy cornelious? silver & gold on the island of ..
[04:41] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, thats a no-no.
[04:41] <mordof> Xenguy: i then had to get the linux-headers files and it made its own compile..
[04:41] <stormy|> I'm new to linux and all, but how do I install this program? http://www.tucows.com/preview/39014
[04:41] <Xenguy> mordof: oh
[04:41] <mordof> apparently it didnt do a very good job
[04:41] <Toma-> Ocius, is your dvd drive hda?
[04:42] <Ocius> ill check
[04:42] <Ocius> under disk manager
[04:42] <Toma-> ok
[04:42] <Xenguy> mordof: it worked for me, if it is the same scenario (I'm not sure anymore)
[04:42] <glick> damn there are no good free digital schematic editor for linux
[04:42] <glick> what the hell
[04:42] <steeltoes12345> question.   i want to use ubuntu with xfce.   I have installed "breezy badger" (with gnome) on my system.   to use xfce, do i have to reinstall with another version or can i some how add xfce to my install??
[04:42] <mordof> Xenguy: i updated my kernel, and then tried to install the nvidia drivers...
[04:42] <Ocius> Toma- error on clicking the cd rom, ive seen it before
[04:42] <grim76> steeltoes12345: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <_jason> steeltoes12345: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop I believe, didn't the wiki explain it?
[04:42] <Ocius> Toma- Couldn't find "/tmp/disks-conf-hda"
[04:42] <mordof> Xenguy: i think it said my kernel reports the driver as the version the drivers should be, and the drivers are reporting a different version
[04:42] <Xenguy> mordof: I have done that successfully
[04:43] <Xenguy> mordof: hrm
[04:43] <Ocius> Toma- its dev/hda
[04:43] <mordof> Xenguy: ill just try installing them again.. *shrugs*
[04:43] <Xenguy> mordof: good luck
[04:43] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, get rid of this line - - -/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[04:43] <theblue_> Hi all, I have a webcam that Easycame doesn't detect, can anyone help me otu?
[04:43] <Ocius> Toma- done
[04:43] <theblue_> out, too?
[04:43] <mordof> Xenguy: thanks
[04:44] <Toma-> save, and try remounting
[04:44] <steeltoes12345> jason:  ya kind of.   from what I was reading, it seems that i need to reinstall, to do it
[04:44] <Ocius> whats the terminal line for remounting
[04:44] <steeltoes12345> jason: am i correct??
[04:44] <_jason> steeltoes12345: you should be able to run both
[04:44] <Ocius> sudo mount -a ?
[04:44] <Toma-> yeh
[04:44] <grim76> steeltoes12345: you can run both just have to make the selection before you login to get xfce rather than KDE/Gnome
[04:45] <mordof> Xenguy: there, its reinstalled, now lets see if i can get into X
[04:45] <Ocius> nothign still
[04:45] <Ocius> Same errors
[04:45] <Ocius> in the media folder the cd rom folders are empty
[04:45] <mordof> Xenguy: GAH! starting gnome display manager fails!
[04:45] <Ocius> and there is no mount on the desktop of the dvd drive
[04:45] <mordof> it just said it installed successfully, what the hell :'(
[04:45] <mordof> im dooomed!
[04:45] <snooze> mordof: then, most probably, your x config is fucked up.
[04:45] <steeltoes12345> right now that selection is not there.    so it seems that i will probably have to reinstall
[04:45] <Nightshade> do any of you know if there's a way to trick firefox or any browser on linux into thinking it's internet explorer so i can get on sites like music.yahoo.com and whatnot?  i have w32codecs installed and stuff.
[04:45] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, run this for me... "dmesg | grep DVD"
[04:46] <mordof> snooze: the nvidia install should take care of that though
[04:46] <snooze> mordof: try disabling gdm first.
[04:46] <wastrel> hi.  my wifi card likes to disconnect when i pulling a lot of network traffic, but only when i'm in a certain room in my house.. i think it's trying to connect to a neighbor's network...  any way to fix this?  i'm using associate=0 when loading the ipw2200 driver
[04:46] <snooze> mordof: ?
[04:46] <mordof> snooze: im not in X.. im trying to start GDm
[04:46] <snooze> mordof: take care of what?
[04:46] <Ocius> Is it cool to paste it here?
[04:46] <grim76> steeltoes12345: you do not need to reinstall...just need to do an sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <Ocius> damnit
[04:46] <mordof> snooze: er, how would i start X?
[04:46] <Toma-> woops :D
[04:46] <Ocius> Toma- can i paste it here, its only 2 lines
[04:47] <wastrel> mordof:  startx may work
[04:47] <mordof> i was told /etc/init.d/gdm start, but that fails
[04:47] <Toma-> paste it to me in priovate
[04:47] <snooze> mordof: guess how - "startx
[04:47] <mordof> k
[04:47] <snooze> "
[04:47] <Ocius> Toma- can i paste it here, its only 2 lines
[04:47] <snooze> Ocius: yes :)
[04:47] <Toma-> paste it to me in private
[04:47] <kwewu14> i installed the k7 kernel-image and now nvidia-glx driver won't work with X
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> Nightshade: I don't know what the site actually requires and whether this will work, but Opera can identify as IE>
[04:47] <wastrel> mordof:  you may need to use sudo to start gdm like that
[04:47] <Toma-> kwewu14, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx"
[04:47] <snooze> kwewu14: apt-get remove nvidia-glx; apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:48] <kwewu14> i tried both of those things
[04:48] <kwewu14> it didn't work.
[04:48] <Ocius> Toma- sent
[04:48] <snooze> kwewu14: why not?
[04:48] <Toma-> Ocius, no :D have you registered your nick? just paste it in here
[04:48] <kwewu14> because it didn't. i still get the same nvidia driver not found error
[04:48] <Ocius> Toma - [4294673.146000]  hda: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[04:48] <Ocius> [4294676.384000]  hda: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[04:49] <Mordof> odd.. im in X now
[04:49] <Toma-> i c
[04:49] <wastrel> Mordof:  what's odd?  startx worked :] 
[04:49] <snooze> odd is dope :)
[04:49] <Rory|FireShaper> When someone has a second, I'm having problems with my webcam
[04:49] <snooze> like smoking stuff
[04:49] <snooze> :)
[04:49] <Mordof> wastrel, yeah, except X showed errors and then after 5 seconds decided to work
[04:49] <Mordof> wastrel, im afraid to restart my computer again
[04:49] <wastrel> some errors aren't fatal
[04:50] <wastrel> fontpath stuff for example
[04:50] <Mordof> wastrel, it said X failed to start... maybe that was just from before
[04:50] <bob> How do you get rid of a pkg that's on an "inconsistent" state?
[04:50] <wastrel> Mordof:  you could kill X & try again :] 
[04:50] <Toma-> Ocius, ok your dvd/cdrom line in fstab should be "/dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto  0  0" and just that. no other mentioning of it in fstab.
[04:51] <maxbern> guys how can i read my floopy drive tell me pls
[04:51] <Rory|FireShaper> I'm getting this error when I try to start camorama: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[04:51] <Toma-> !floppy
[04:51] <ubotu> Toma-: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:51] <wastrel> anybody on why my wifi card likes to disconnect but only in one room of my apartment?
[04:51] <Toma-> actually they do...
[04:52] <maxbern> !floppy
[04:52] <snooze> maxbern: wastrel because you have bad connect there
[04:52] <snooze> aehm
[04:52] <Ocius> Toma- ok nothing changed yet
[04:52] <snooze> wastrel:
[04:52] <maxbern> omg
[04:52] <Mordof> hmm.. it works now, but the splash screen loading up, that Ubuntu thing.. its all grey and blurry
[04:52] <Toma-> Ocius, it may also be a dbus problem... tried rebooting?
[04:52] <wastrel> snooze:  it's about 20 feet away from the AP in direct LoS...
[04:52] <Ocius> i can
[04:52] <Ocius> ill brb
[04:52] <Toma-> ok
[04:52] <maxbern> try again snooze
[04:53] <snooze> wastrel: wifi goes strange ways
[04:53] <wastrel> snooze:  the connection works anywhere else in the apt (thru walls, farther away)
[04:53] <leveny> hi all! i messed up my sudoer account. i rebooted in single user mode and added my account in sudoers. i can no use my account with sudo but i can no longer play music. it says, "no permission". any idea will be appreciated. :)
[04:53] <Rory|FireShaper> I'm getting this error when I try to start camorama: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[04:53] <snooze> wastrel: that has nothing to say
[04:53] <wastrel> snooze:  i think it's trying to associate with a neighbor's AP
[04:53] <snooze> wastrel: possible too
[04:53] <maxbern> Toma-, i need your expertise on floppy
[04:53] <maxbern> tell me how
[04:53] <wastrel> snooze:  but i start the module with associate=0
[04:54] <snooze> wastrel: hm
[04:54] <Toma-> maxbern, i have no expertise :D
[04:54] <snooze> wastrel: then it should just work :)
[04:54] <wastrel> snooze:  also it only happens when there's a load on the network
[04:54] <wastrel> snooze:  as in, i'm downloading
[04:54] <maxbern> anybody can help me how to read my floopy drive
[04:54] <maxbern> whats the command
[04:54] <snooze> wastrel: i only use normal LAN, sorry :)
[04:54] <wastrel> sigh :] 
[04:55] <nick01> where was that page where u configure the repositories ?
[04:55] <wastrel> maxbern:  mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[04:55] <maxbern> wastrel,  in terminal root?
[04:55] <snooze> damn it's 5 o clock
[04:55] <tzadik> i'm having trouble with vnc
[04:55] <snooze> don't wanna get to sleep
[04:55] <JoeyDay> I'm having trouble mounting my windows ntfs drive.
[04:55] <tzadik> 11 p.m. here
[04:55] <tzadik> haha
[04:55] <wastrel> maxbern:  you may have to create /mnt/floppy, and as root may be necessary
[04:55] <tzadik> (sorry)
[04:55] <JoeyDay> (I guess I should specify "ntfs partition")
[04:55] <nick01> !easysource
[04:55] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:55] <maxbern> tell me how wastrel
[04:55] <tzadik> where are you snooze?
[04:56] <wastrel> maxbern:  sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[04:56] <snooze> JoeyDay: /dev/sda1       /mnt/windows_c  ntfs    user,uid=1000,gid=1000
[04:56] <snooze> JoeyDay: works for me
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: germany
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Yeah, that's what I've tried.
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: you?
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Says I don't have permission to get at the files.
[04:56] <tzadik> baltimore, maryland, usa
[04:56] <LinuxJones> I'm trying to install Dapper from DVD and it complains about /dev/ram not being created then kicks into a shell. Anybody have a solution ?
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Well, I've tried something similar anyway...
[04:56] <maxbern> next wastrel
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: oh fine, planet earth gets small :)
[04:56] <maxbern> i make sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Let me compare what I have to what you just said...
[04:56] <tzadik> do u know that the us is so stupid you can't see the olympics live?
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: i love internet :)
[04:56] <wastrel> maxbern:  actually just   mount /dev/fd0  should work
[04:57] <tzadik> they start showing them at 8 p.m. here
[04:57] <tzadik> recorded
[04:57] <Ocius> Toma- nope
[04:57] <Toma-> damn.
[04:57] <wastrel> maxbern:  if your /etc/fstab is set up like mine
[04:57] <kwewu14> when i try and startx i'm getting a failed to load nvidia kernel error.
[04:57] <snooze> anyways, gotta get to the goddamn hospital tomorrow noon, i'll try to sleep.
[04:57] <Ocius> Toma- this error seems like it might be the main issue: Couldn't find "/tmp/disks-conf-hda"
[04:57] <maxbern> wastrel,  mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[04:57] <snooze> thanks to all that helped me out!
[04:57] <tzadik> what city
[04:57] <snooze> night! :)
[04:57] <tzadik> in germany
[04:57] <tzadik> ?
[04:57] <snooze> tzadik: duisburg!
[04:57] <snooze> (:
[04:57] <JoeyDay> snooze: You've got that line in your /etc/fstab ?
[04:57] <Toma-> Ocius, dont worry about that.
[04:57] <snooze> JoeyDay: i do.
[04:57] <tzadik> hmmm never heard of that
[04:58] <snooze> JoeyDay: and it works :)
[04:58] <Toma-> yet.
[04:58] <Ocius> i just want it fixed :(
[04:58] <LinuxJones> kwewu14: can you manually add teh module by typing sudo modprobe nvidia   ?
[04:58] <wastrel> maxbern:  what command did you use?
[04:58] <JoeyDay> snooze: Okay, I had ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 for my options. What's the difference between the fmask/dmask stuff and the uid/gid stuff?
[04:58] <Ocius> Toma- this is its access path : /media/cdrom0
[04:58] <Toma-> yep.
[04:58] <tzadik> i have vnc server set up on my ubuntu box
[04:58] <tzadik> and it is running
[04:58] <andre> if the synaptics is downloading some packages.. and i interrupt it... that half-packages will stay on cache ??
[04:59] <oklinux> can I install kde and xfce in ubuntu ?
[04:59] <wastrel> i should setup vnc
[04:59] <maxbern> wastrel,  im just pasting in the terminal mount /dev/fd0
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: the first is about the rights itself, the second about the owner.
[04:59] <kwewu14> anyone know how to fix a failed to load nvidia kernel module when i startx?
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: *guess*
[04:59] <Spudchat> hey guys, whats the link on upgrading warty to breezy?
[04:59] <tzadik> but my vnc viewer on my windows laptop
[04:59] <tzadik> can't connect
[04:59] <tzadik> i don't know what is wrong
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: with my one, you can map the owner of it :)
[04:59] <wastrel> maxbern:  try  sudo mount /dev/fd0
[04:59] <Ocius> it reads what i have in there
[04:59] <tzadik> mabye the router?
[04:59] <Ocius> i just cant get to it
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: just take your user id
[04:59] <tzadik> needs some kind of setup?
[04:59] <snooze> damn i'm SLEEPY
[04:59] <wastrel> maxbern:  you have a disk in the drive?
[04:59] <snooze> :)
[04:59] <Toma-> Ocius, run this "lshal | grep storage.cdrom.dvd"
[04:59] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: what vnc server?  using gnome?
[04:59] <Toma-> ubotu, tell Spudchat about breezy
[04:59] <JoeyDay> snooze: How do I find my own uid?
[05:00] <Spudchat> thanks
[05:00] <tzadik> i installed the vncserver package
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: you wanna display the same remotely as locally?
[05:00] <Toma-> np
[05:00] <Ocius> Toma- done
[05:00] <tzadik> yes
[05:00] <Ocius> hmm
[05:00] <Toma-> Ocius, anything return?
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: apt-get remove vncserver
[05:00] <maxbern> nope
[05:00] <Ocius> there are two falses
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: using gnome?
[05:00] <tzadik> remove it?
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> yeah, it's not what you want
[05:00] <tzadik> i have gnome yes
[05:00] <Psi-Jack> For some reason, my new Kubuntu installation's startup, does /not/ bring up eth0. How do I fix that?
[05:00] <tzadik> ok
[05:00] <Ocius> Toma-   storage.cdrom.dvdram = false  (bool)
[05:00] <Ocius>   storage.cdrom.dvdrw = false  (bool)
[05:00] <tzadik> i will remove
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: system->preferences->remote desktop
[05:01] <tzadik> first how do i stop the vncserver
[05:01] <Toma-> Ocius, thats ok. as long as storage.cdrom.dvd = true is returned
[05:01] <tzadik> before i remove it?
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: gnome uses a thing called "vino" to display the current screen... vncserver is for fake displays
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: sudo invoke.rc-d vncserver stop
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> ?
[05:01] <Ocius> it is true
[05:01] <maxbern> wastrel,
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: sudo invoke.rc-d Xvnc stop
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> maybe that too, i forget
[05:01] <mordof> ..... im gonna break something, honestly
[05:01] <mordof> i am so close right now to going back to windows and dropping this altogether
[05:01] <tzadik> sudo invoke.rc-d vncserver stop
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> lol @ mordof
[05:02] <tzadik> sudo: invoke.rc-d: command not found
[05:02] <wastrel> maxbern:  try it with a disk in the drive
[05:02] <mordof> i cant get into X at all, last reboot all i could see was fuzz and blocks, i had to restart my computer by holding the power button
[05:02] <mordof> and now X has fucked up on me AGAIN! after twice reinstalling the drivers!
[05:02] <maxbern> thanks it works
[05:02] <_jason> tzadik: it's invoke-rc.d
[05:02] <bur[n] er_> mordof: what kind of video card?  did you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick the right setup?
[05:02] <Toma-> mordof, stop doing silly things :D
[05:02] <wastrel> maxbern:  try it without the sudo, it should work with a disk in the drive
[05:03] <mordof> bur[n] er_: 6800xt, no i didnt know i had to
[05:03] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: listen to _jason, my bad ;)
[05:03] <Ocius> so far i love linux over windows
[05:03] <Ocius> and im a gamer
[05:03] <mordof> Toma-: silly things? like what
[05:03] <Ocius> but the learning curve is rediculous
[05:03] <Ralith> I have a fresh install, and nothing can play MP3s.
[05:03] <Toma-> mordof, i dunno.
[05:03] <bur[n] er_> mordof: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if that fixes things
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ralith about mp3
[05:03] <Ralith> Everything claims they're not valid files
[05:03] <wastrel> Ocius:  it takes a while to get comfortable :] 
[05:03] <Ocius> im way better then i was yesterday
[05:03] <Ocius> im remembering comands for terminal
[05:03] <Ralith> _jason: thanks
[05:03] <Ocius> so its getting less painful
[05:03] <Fub> is there someway to change the order in which programs start at boot?
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ocius about rute
[05:04] <tzadik> removed it
[05:04] <mordof> bur[n] er_: xserver-org is not installed
[05:04] <_jason> Ocius: if you read that, you will be more than comfortable
[05:04] <bur[n] er_> mordof: xserver-xorg :P
[05:04] <wastrel> ubotu: tell me about rute
[05:04] <mordof> oh
[05:04] <wastrel> ooh i got reprimanded by ubotu
[05:04] <Ocius> i just want my dvd drive to work right
[05:04] <Ocius> after that ill write research papers on this stuff
[05:05] <holobyted> has anyone here compiled KFTPGrabber?
[05:05] <wastrel> hmm dvd eh
[05:05] <wastrel> my drive works but there's no good players
[05:05] <Toma-> Ocius, have you googled the error? im out of ideas :|
[05:05] <wastrel> i usuallly reboot for dvd's
[05:05] <bur[n] er_> wastrel: totem doesn't do it for you?
[05:05] <Ocius> lol toma
[05:05] <Ocius> ive looked everywhere
[05:05] <Ocius> Dvd problems are huge on Ubuntu
[05:05] <bur[n] er_> wastrel: u have totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[05:05] <Ocius> but none of them are like mine
[05:06] <tzadik> now the vncviewer on the windows laptop should work?
[05:06] <wastrel> bur[n] er_:  totem doesn't work for hardly anything on my system, i use mplayer mostly
[05:06] <Ocius> it has to be something with it reading the drive from a certain location or something
[05:06] <seishi> if the synaptics is downloading some packages.. and i interrupt it... that half-packages will stay on cache ??
[05:06] <tzadik> without doing anything on the router?
[05:06] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: did you configure the gnome vnc server?
[05:06] <Ocius> i was able to trick it into showing me the files for like 2 seconds earlier by making a dubmie folder
[05:06] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: if they're both behind the router, no other config is necessary in the router
[05:06] <Ocius> which it then overwrote and gave me an error
[05:06] <wastrel> bur[n] er_:  but yes, totem kindof works for dvd's but the menus don't work
[05:06] <Ocius> but i saw the files
[05:06] <Ocius> so far i know the drive is fine and the dvd is fine
[05:06] <Ocius> its just ubuntu not liking it
[05:07] <kwewu14> why would nvidia-glx not work?
[05:07] <bur[n] er_> Ocius: u have libdvdread ?
[05:07] <kwewu14> i have an nvidia card.
[05:07] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, try "mount -t udf /dev/hda /mnt"
[05:07] <tzadik> wow
[05:07] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: it workin for ya now?
[05:07] <Ocius> lol
[05:07] <Ocius> only root can do that
[05:07] <tzadik> i am now connected from the laptop!!!
[05:07] <tzadik> that is so cool
[05:08] <tzadik> thanks so much for helping!!
[05:08] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, same thing with sudo infront
[05:08] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: you're welcome :)
[05:08] <snooze_> hrmpf
[05:08] <tzadik> now i can work on my ubuntu box from my sofa
[05:08] <seishi> tzadik,  if the synaptics is downloading some packages.. and i interrupt it... that half-packages will stay on cache ??
[05:08] <snooze_> tzadik: :)
[05:08] <Ocius> Holy crap
[05:08] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: forward port 5900 in your router to your ubuntu box if you want external vnc to work
[05:08] <Ocius> it opened the fucking dvd
[05:08] <tzadik> instead of hanging out in the basemen
[05:08] <snooze_> i like "Helicopter" by "Bloc Party" somehow.
[05:08] <Ocius> thast a step forward my friend
[05:08] <tzadik> basement
[05:08] <Toma-> Ocius, like, ejected it?
[05:08] <Ocius> no
[05:08] <tzadik> cool!
[05:08] <Ocius> pulled open the files
[05:08] <Ocius> block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:08] <Toma-> mounted it?
[05:08] <Toma-> hehehe :D
[05:08] <Ocius> thats what it sent back
[05:09] <tzadik> i wonder if it would work from my work
[05:09] <snooze_> bur[n] er_: not just only you :)
[05:09] <wastrel> vnc is an interesting idea
[05:09] <oklinux>  can you have gnome and kde at the same box ?
[05:09] <wastrel> i have a lot of chores to do on my desktop besides vnc tho
[05:09] <snooze_> oklinux: i do
[05:09] <wastrel> oklinux:  yes
[05:09] <Toma-> ok Ocius.... looks suspiciously like you need a new fstab.
[05:09] <Ocius> ok
[05:09] <Goldfisch> vnc and putty are independent tools. I use both to get the desired effect.
[05:09] <tzadik> can i unplug my monitor?
[05:09] <Ocius> walk me through it dude
[05:09] <Psi-Jack> I just got a Kubuntu system installed, /barely/ due to a flakey CD-ROM drive. But some things aren't working. When I boot up, eth0 is not being brought up automatically, however, lo is, and ifup eth0 brings it up. How can I fix this so that it's started at boot-time?
[05:09] <anto9us> tzadik, better to forward port 22 and route vnc over a secure ssh connection, command is 'ssh -C <ip address> -L 5900:localhost:5900
[05:09] <snooze_> oklinux: just install ubuntu and do "apt-get install kde"
[05:10] <Toma-> Ocius, no idea :D ill work it out.
[05:10] <snooze_> oklinux: should do so far
[05:10] <Psi-Jack> Mind you, this is a server install, /not/ a desktop install.
[05:10] <johnnybezak> anyone here have any experince with Gnu Mailman?
[05:10] <Ocius> i really dont wanna reinstall
[05:10] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  put auto eth0  in your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:10] <snooze_> oklinux: after that, you can easily start kde with "startkde" from .xinitrc
[05:10] <Ocius> ive done that 3 times in 2 days
[05:10] <Ocius> getting sick of it :(
[05:10] <anto9us> tzadik, then you would connect vnc client to localhost
[05:10] <Toma-> Ocius, pfft reinstall for fstab? no way.
[05:10] <Ocius> starting to feel like windows with the reinstalling when things go wrong
[05:10] <snooze_> reinstalling makes you free.
[05:10] <Ocius> heh
[05:10] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Hmm. Why? Neither of my two other computers have that. Why does that ONE need it? :)
[05:10] <Ocius> when i dont know what im doing
[05:10] <Ocius> i reinstall
[05:11] <Ocius> linux nub, windows pro
[05:11] <Ocius> also
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: tipp: make yourself some nice shell scripts that do all the manual parts after installing a system.
[05:11] <Ocius> yeah
[05:11] <Ocius> now i gotta learn how to do shell scripts
[05:11] <Ocius> hooray :(
[05:11] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  your other 2 are magic?  i dunno. that's what works forme :] 
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: #!/bin/bash
[05:11] <wastrel> s/forme/for me/
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: and after that the commands
[05:11] <Ocius> someone tell me a quick way to get windows codecs
[05:11] <holobyted> anyone ever compile KFTPGrabber? I keep getting compile errors
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: just save that shit to a file and chmod +x it
[05:11] <tzadik> can vnc also send the sound?
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: works :)
[05:11] <snooze_> (:
[05:12] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Well.... I'll /try/ it, but I don't like inconsistancies. heh
[05:12] <cdehaan> Is there a way to change the ubuntu logo in gnome to blue?
[05:12] <snooze_> and i HATE those new gtk2 file selection dialogs.
[05:12] <Ocius> snooze
[05:12] <Ocius> what is that for?
[05:12] <snooze_> they suck galaxies through beer bottles.
[05:12] <mordof> hey look at that my X still doesn't work
[05:12] <wastrel> snooze_:  omg yes they are the worst!
[05:12] <snooze_> Ocius: a sha-bang?
[05:12] <snooze_> Ocius: that #!/bin/bash stuff?
[05:12] <Ocius>  dont torture me
[05:12] <SeyToN> i got a problem with .bin file
[05:12] <Ocius> Toma is working hard to help here
[05:12] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: yes, it can send sound
[05:12] <snooze_> Ocius: it just indicates that the file starting with it is being executed by /bin/bash
[05:12] <wastrel> snooze_:  they're almost a dealbreaker for me but i just can't get comfortable in kde
[05:12] <_jason> SeyToN: what's the problem and what is the file
[05:12] <mordof> bur[n] er_: didnt do any good
[05:13] <Goldfisch> vnc does NOT forward sound.
[05:13] <snooze_> wastrel: kde is cool.
[05:13] <SeyToN> can i type the problem here?
[05:13] <SeyToN> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[05:13] <SeyToN> root@linux:/home/kevin/programs/java# chmod a+x jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin
[05:13] <SeyToN> chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[05:13] <spazzz> Anyone know how to configure a joystick?
[05:13] <Ocius> damn windows registry
[05:13] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: scratch that... rdesktop can do sound, not vnc afaik
[05:13] <eno> ubotu send me the link about the apt get servers
[05:13] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eno
[05:13] <Ocius> and all your spyware signatures
[05:13] <snooze_> wastrel: it's shit and crap, but it's MUCH better than this new gnome shit.
[05:13] <_jason> SeyToN: why do you ask and just do it?, in the future please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:13] <snooze_> wastrel: use it.
[05:13] <bur[n] er_> shitty mordof, using breezy?  did it ever work?
[05:13] <mordof> bur[n] er_: yeah, it worked before i updated my kernal and then tried to install nvidia drivers.
[05:13] <spazzz> Or rather does anyone know why even though it works fine in calibration a bunch of buttons won't work in any game?
[05:13] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i was fine before i tried to install any drivers
[05:13] <tzadik> yeah... it seems like it's not sending the sound
[05:13] <Ocius> Toma- any ideas
[05:13] <snooze_> mordof: same problem here.
[05:13] <_jason> SeyToN: that usually means the file isn't in that directory.  Can you do 'ls' and check if it is there?
[05:14] <tzadik> is it ok to unplug the monitor?
[05:14] <tzadik> or will that mess up my vnc
[05:14] <tzadik> ?
[05:14] <snooze_> mordof: may i have your email address regarding this problem?
[05:14] <anto9us> tzadik, rdesktop can be ssh'd in the same way, I think the port is 3389
[05:14] <snooze_> mordof: via /msg or so?
[05:14] <mordof> bur[n] er_: whats the difference between installing them BEFORE a kernel update, and after
[05:14] <wastrel> snooze_:  nah i'm just holding out the hope that someone will write a drop-in replacement that's not so awful... i'm too used to gnome to switch, i got all what windowmanager shopping out of my system years ago
[05:14] <snooze_> mordof: i would like to ask you tomorrow when i tried solving that problem.
[05:14] <tzadik> how do i get ssh running?
[05:14] <bur[n] er_> mordof: if you update a kernel, you need kernel modules compield against that kernel
[05:14] <tzadik> rdesktop
[05:14] <mordof> snooze_: dunno if you got that, im in terminal
[05:14] <Mogus> Evening all
[05:15] <Mogus> I have a quick ubuntu question regarding the live CD.
[05:15] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i compiled them against my current kernel, doesn't work
[05:15] <wastrel> tzadik:  should be ok to unplug the monitor
[05:15] <snooze_> mine  Palmstrm reist, mit einem Herrn v. Korf,
[05:15] <snooze_> in ein sogenanntes Bhmisches Dorf.
[05:15] <snooze_> Unverstndlich bleibt ihm alles dort,
[05:15] <snooze_> von dem ersten bis zum letzten Wort.
[05:15] <snooze_> Auch v. Korf (der nur des Reimes wegen
[05:15] <snooze_> ihn begleitet) ist um Rat verlegen.
[05:15] <_jason> tzadik: sudo apt-get install opennssh-server
[05:15] <spazzz> anyone?
[05:15] <snooze_> Doch just dieses macht ihn bla vor Glck.
[05:15] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: apt-get install openssh-server
[05:15] <eno> can someone please type the thing that makes ubotu send me the link to make a new synaptic list
[05:15] <snooze_> Tiefentzckt kehrt unser Freund zurck.
[05:15] <snooze_> Und er schreibt in seine Wochenchronik:
[05:15] <overflow-1> does 5.10 come with support for reiserfs 4.0?
[05:15] <anto9us> tzadik, 'sudo apt-get install ssh' will install it as a service
[05:15] <snooze_> ooooooooooops
[05:15] <mordof> omg SNOOZE!
[05:15] <_jason> snooze_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[05:15] <snooze_> sry
[05:15] <Razor-X> What could cause this error: http://pastebin.com/555444 .
[05:15] <overflow-1> cat /proc/filesystems says no
[05:15] <Ocius> Toma- done left me alone i see :(
[05:15] <Razor-X> And yes, I have my kernel headers.
[05:15] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Well.... It worked..
[05:15] <nmm> im going to be needing to create an iso cd, whats a name of a program that will create an iso that i can dl?
[05:15] <snooze_> sorry everyone
[05:15] <Toma-> Ocius, no, looking for ways to re-gen fstab
[05:15] <mordof> thats so hard on the amount of space i have to watch for people talking, lol
[05:15] <Ocius> Toma- phew ok
[05:15] <Mogus> I'm trying to change permissions on a USB disk that I have, but I don't know the root password.
[05:15] <_jason> SeyToN: are you following the wiki for installing java?
[05:15] <tzadik> monitor is unplugged
[05:15] <mordof> im on like 640x480 in a cli irc... soo bad
[05:15] <spazzz> .....
[05:15] <Ocius> snooze
[05:15] <Mogus> is there a default password for root for thelive cd?
[05:15] <tzadik> working
[05:15] <tzadik> !
[05:16] <ubotu> tzadik: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:16] <Ocius> be useful and help me find windows codecs
[05:16] <_jason> Mogus: nope, use sudo
[05:16] <MacSlow> ehm... is http://www.xfree86.org really offline?!
[05:16] <mordof> bur[n] er_: if i install the driver before the kernel update, do i have to do anything after the update though?
[05:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell Mogus about sudo
[05:16] <tzadik> so i can install ssh
[05:16] <Ralith> _jason: followed that guide and I still get the same errors.
[05:16] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  that's the standard way to start an interface on boot AFAIK... if there's another method i'd be interested to hear about it :] 
[05:16] <Mogus> _jason: thank uyou
[05:16] <Mogus> er, you
[05:16] <snooze_> Ocius: :)
[05:16] <bur[n] er_> mordof: why not go back to the "nv" driver without 3d accel just to have a working X?
[05:16] <tzadik> then what do i run on the windows laptop?
[05:16] <Razor-X> Wow, not being in X makes terminal emulators so much more... attractive.
[05:16] <_jason> Ralith: what errors
[05:16] <SeyToN> im following the java instructions from the java website : \
[05:16] <bur[n] er_> or "nvidia" driver, I forget in Nvidia world
[05:16] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: The way Kubuntu /appears/ to do it, is through using hotplug, but it's not working on that particular system for some reason.
[05:16] <snooze_> mordof: check your email.
[05:17] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i JUST bought a 6800xt... its a waste of money if i cant even use it :(
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: mp3s are unplayable.
[05:17] <mordof> snooze_: how do i do tht in cli
[05:17] <pestilence> does anybody use gtkpod with their ipod?  i added some videos to my ipod using it, and when i synced in windows itunes it deleted the videos.  is this to be expected?
[05:17] <amphi> Razor-X: you don't have framebuffer console?
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: installed all the varieties of gstreamer I could find.
[05:17] <snooze_> mordof: cli?
[05:17] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: But then again, Kubuntu and Ubuntu use the exact same installer, so they're pretty much identical in most regards.
[05:17] <_jason> Ralith: gstreamer0.8-mad installed without errors?
[05:17] <eno> ubotu tell me about sources.list
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: including gstreamer0.9-mad
[05:17] <bur[n] er_> mordof: i'm sure it'll work, i just don't have any experience with nvidia :\ sorry
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: yep
[05:17] <mordof> snooze_: no X access
[05:17] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  yeah i'm not too familiar with kde...
[05:17] <snooze_> mordof: no clue :)
[05:17] <mordof> gah! now i cant even access my email!
[05:17] <amphi> mordof: what do you normally use for mail?
[05:17] <nmm> burning iso image, good program? anyone know?
[05:17] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: That system doesn't even have KDE. :)
[05:17] <mordof> amphi: gmail
[05:17] <Razor-X> amphi: Nope. Even still, this doesen't seem to work with my Meta key.
[05:18] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: how are you trying to play the mp3s?
[05:18] <_jason> Ralith: gst-register-0.8
[05:18] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Nor X. It's a bare minimum server install.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> nmm,  under linux - k3b, under windows = "burn at once" :P
[05:18] <Mogus> Jason: you the man. THanks. :)
[05:18] <anto9us> tzadik, putty is a good ssh client for windows it does port forwarding too
[05:18] <nmm> ok
[05:18] <amphi> mordof: links _might_ be able to access it
[05:18] <Ralith> _jason: trying it
[05:18] <_jason> Ralith: sorry, enter 'gst-register-0.8' in a terminal, accessories > terminal
[05:18] <wastrel> putty is my favorite windows app
[05:18] <mordof> amphi: it has SSL and all that that MUST be configured to get at it
[05:18] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: and winscp is a nice ssh file transfer app :)
[05:18] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: totem, rhytmbox.
[05:18] <wastrel> that and world of warcraft :] 
[05:18] <spazzz> Does anyone have any idea why the Directional pad buttons on my controller work when i'm calibrating the joystick but won't work when I try to use it in any kind of game or emulator?
[05:18] <mordof> amphi: besides, my gmail account is set to have pop access off
[05:18] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: do that gst-register thing ;)
[05:18] <Ralith> heh
[05:18] <Ralith> ok
[05:19] <amphi> mordof: gmail needs javascript support, unless they did the non-javascript interface they talked about long agp
[05:19] <tzadik> pretty cool that i am running vnc viewer full screen on my windows laptop
[05:19] <amphi> *ago
[05:19] <mordof> amphi: they made a non-js
[05:19] <tzadik> it looks exactly like a local ubuntu
[05:19] <amphi> mordof: cool
[05:19] <mordof> amphi: all i need is a browser for cli
[05:19] <tzadik> no delay or anything
[05:19] <Razor-X> mordof: w3m
[05:19] <tzadik> over wireless
[05:19] <mordof> Razor-X: thanks
[05:19] <Ralith> _jason: didn't work
[05:19] <Razor-X> So, uh, can anyone help me with my X troubles?
[05:19] <tzadik> all that is missing is sound
[05:19] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: no luck
[05:19] <_jason> Ralith: close the apps and open them again
[05:19] <mordof> Razor-X: k i typed that in and i have no idea how to use it
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> gee i use vnc all the time with no hassles.
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: breezy?
[05:20] <tzadik> so what is better than vnc?
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: nothing
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> i dont use that "share desktop' - i run seperate vnc 'desktops'
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: maybe NX
[05:20] <wastrel> mmm w3m is cute
[05:20] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: no, the latest that I can never remember the name of
[05:20] <Goldfisch> tzadik: Having the console right in front of you? Heheh :)
[05:20] <spazzz> Alright I guess i'll just have to try the forums
[05:20] <tzadik> but there is no way to get sound
[05:20] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, i gotta go. work time :( but look for help with your fstab. it seems to be the key.... good luck
[05:20] <pestilence> so nobody here uses itunes and gtkpod with their ipod?
[05:20] <tzadik> right?
[05:20] <Ralith> _jason: I tried that, of course :P
[05:20] <mordof> .....
[05:20] <Razor-X> mordof: `U' (remember, case sensitive) to go to a URL, C-n to go down a line, `w' to go to the next word, yeah.
[05:20] <mordof> my computer is as good as dead
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: dapper... you need gstreamer0.10-mad then :)
[05:20] <_jason> Ralith: they should work :/
[05:20] <_jason> oh
[05:20] <Razor-X> mordof: I use the CLI even with X :D.
[05:20] <Razor-X> mordof: By the way, hit `H' for help.
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: in dapper, rhythmbox and totem use the new gstreamer
[05:21] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: :P
[05:21] <Goldfisch> Shared desktops (vino) is nice, because then I run evolution on the my desktop, and can later see it remotely, without stopping it on one desktop and restarting on another.
[05:21] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: alright
[05:21] <graft> erm... so I've got this xserver error, where it dies with: Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:21] <amphi> mordof: then apt-get install w3m and use that to read your gmail mail
[05:21] <Razor-X> Stupid glx >_<
[05:21] <graft> anyone seen any such?
[05:21] <Razor-X> .
[05:21] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: no such package
[05:21] <Ralith> er, wait
[05:21] <Ralith> typo
[05:21] <Ralith> heh
[05:21] <Ralith> still no such package.
[05:21] <pestilence> graft, what if you comment that module out of your xorg.conf
[05:21] <mordof> amphi: i already have it, but it wont load gmail
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> graft,  i saw that  - when using a 'mepis xorg.conf' file today. instead of the ubuntu one.
[05:22] <graft> well what's the offending line?
[05:22] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: try this... sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10*
[05:22] <amphi> mordof: does here, I just tried
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> graft,  but i dont think thats a 'failing' kind of error.. sure theres not some other error/message?
[05:22] <mordof> amphi: what did you type to get to it?
[05:22] <graft> bitmap is a required module
[05:22] <graft> X won't start without it
[05:22] <amphi> mordof: w3m gmail.com
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> graft,  i never found what line/module was wanting it.
[05:22] <mordof> amphi: k
[05:22] <kryptoz> gud morning !
[05:22] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: whee, that's a lot of packages. Installing.
[05:22] <Nightshade> is it common for the hard drive light to stay on solid from the point where the system boots into X?
[05:23] <tzadik> how do i troubleshoot a video problem
[05:23] <amphi> mordof: I had to follow one redirect manually, as I have w3m set not to follow them automatically, which is not the default IIRC
[05:23] <mordof> amphi: i do that and nothing shows up, i get a blank screen
[05:23] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: you could always try to use beep-media-player or totem-xine if this doesn't work
[05:23] <misfit_toy> Nightshade: shouldn't be
[05:23] <tzadik> i am trying to watch a video on mlb.com
[05:23] <xX_Digz_Xx> Hello is there a way to get the side buttons on a mouse working on ubuntu 5.10?
[05:23] <tzadik> and it crashes firefox
[05:23] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: yeah, and vlc and mplayer seem to work now that I've tried them. However, I'd like to fix this anyway.
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell xX_Digz_Xx about mouse
[05:23] <anto9us> tzadik, freenx is like vnc, it supports sound
[05:23] <tzadik> cool
[05:23] <bur[n] er_> talisein: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer ?
[05:24] <tzadik> freenx has a windows viewer?
[05:24] <misfit_toy> freenx is da schnizitz! very cool
[05:24] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, i have a 250gb sata drive, and from the time X loads till now, the hard drive light has been on.
[05:24] <mordof> ok! big question... i installed ubuntu everything on my 250gb hd, but i installed /home dirs on my 80gb hd, if i reinstall ubuntu can i do it with it using my current /hom directory?
[05:24] <misfit_toy> tzadik: yes it will do windows
[05:24] <Nightshade> and for some reason it seems that system performance is degraded because of it
[05:24] <bur[n] er_> mordof: yes
[05:25] <misfit_toy> Nightshade: doesn't sound right to me at all, but I don't have any SATA drives here, have you looked at ubuntuforums.org?
[05:25] <tzadik> misfit: and i don't have to install or change anything on the ubuntu side?
[05:25] <amphi> mordof: also works in lynx
[05:25] <tzadik> to frun freenx?
[05:25] <tzadik> to run
[05:25] <anto9us> mordof, just tell the partitioner to use that partition as /home but don't format it
[05:25] <misfit_toy> tzadik: you need the freenx client is all
[05:25] <mordof> anto9us: k
[05:25] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, i have, but it looks like i might have to post something finally.  :)
[05:25] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: there's a bit to do to set up freenx server
[05:25] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: stilldoesn't work
[05:25] <mordof> bur[n] er_: im gonna reinstall but this time im gonna install the nvidia drivers before i update my kernel... see if that works
[05:25] <johnnybezak> anybody know how to restrict who can send mail to a Gnu Mailman list?
[05:25] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: libmad0 ?
[05:25] <misfit_toy> Nightshade: grrr
[05:25] <mordof> anyone know of a terminal audio player?
[05:26] <bur[n] er_> mordof: i'd go the other way around
[05:26] <mordof> cli audio
[05:26] <mordof> bur[n] er_: what do you mean?
[05:26] <amphi> mordof: mpg123, ogg123
[05:26] <tzadik> is there a good website for freenx?
[05:26] <wastrel> mordof:  there's a ton...  i don't know them offhand
[05:26] <tzadik> on the ubuntu site maybe?
[05:26] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: google.com/
[05:26] <anto9us> mordof, alsaplayer
[05:26] <wastrel> mordof:  mpg123 mpg321
[05:26] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: trying
[05:26] <tzadik> ok
[05:26] <amphi> mordof: mplayer will also play audio files
[05:26] <mordof> any that ubuntu comes with? :P
[05:26] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, unless i can fake debian into booting a kernel from ubuntu so it has sata drivers
[05:26] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: already installed
[05:26] <amphi> mordof: you can apt-get whatever you want from console
[05:26] <tzadik> how do i go about troubleshooting a video problem?
[05:26] <tzadik> some videos work
[05:27] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: u can apt-get install totem-xine and that may work for totem at least, though I'm not sure about rb... rb uses gstreamer
[05:27] <mordof> bur[n] er_: what did you mean by i should do it the other way around?
[05:27] <tzadik> but there are some on mlb.com
[05:27] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, seems like ubuntu is the only distro i've seen so far that supports my sata chipset from the installer
[05:27] <tzadik> that crash firefox
[05:27] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: I installed totem-xine a while back, totem still won't play it
[05:27] <Razor-X> Hmmm, so can someone help me get GLX working?
[05:27] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: here's the exact error
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> tzadik,  codec issues sounds like.. could download them - then try to play them seperatly from firefix
[05:27] <Rakko> Using a liveCD/DVD, can I remove the disc at some point and keep using the system?
[05:27] <tzadik> i can't download them
[05:27] <SeyToN> how do i test java its working fine?
[05:27] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: paste page if it's large ;)
[05:27] <tzadik> i can't even figure out what the file is
[05:27] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is no thandled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies.
[05:27] <vladuz976> can someone tell me the diff between automatix and easyubuntu?
[05:28] <amphi> Rakko: if it's one of the ones that copies itself entirely to ram
[05:28] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: not handled*
[05:28] <Rakko> amphi: what are those ones called?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  it will proberly be said to not use either one. :P
[05:28] <tzadik> there is just a link that uses javascript to play it
[05:28] <ownerx> easyubuntu is better
[05:28] <anto9us> !tell tzadik about restrictedformats
[05:28] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: i honestly don't know :\
[05:28] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis: how come?
[05:28] <Ralith> :/
[05:28] <mordof> bur[n] er_: hello?
[05:28] <Rakko> eh, actually, I don't think I'd have the RAM for that
[05:28] <Ralith> _jason: you?
[05:28] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis: on the forum they praise it
[05:28] <mordof> bur[n] er_: need to know before i reinstall..
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  they can do a lot of things - and can break things
[05:28] <amphi> Rakko: ISTR that knoppix could do it; the sysresccd.org iso can, which is more of a recovery and tools iso
[05:28] <tzadik> i think i installed all the restricted formats
[05:28] <Rakko> ok. I will check that out
[05:29] <tzadik> i found an ubunto page that gave instructions
[05:29] <tzadik> maybe i missed something
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  its 'best' to learn what they are doing and do the steps yourself. noting they do is that fancy.
[05:29] <graft> anyone fiddle with NVIDIA drivers for xorg 7.0.0?
[05:29] <ownerx> the creator of automatix is a script kiddy
[05:29] <anto9us> tzadik, some sites just don't work, they wish to narrow down their market to windows only customers for some reason
[05:29] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: u have universe & multiverse repos?
[05:29] <mordof> bur[n] er_: what did you mean when you said i should try them in another order?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> and ownerx  is being 'nice' :P
[05:30] <ownerx> lol
[05:30] <bur[n] er_> mordof: kernel, then video driver
[05:30] <mordof> bur[n] er_: thats what i did this time, and it didnt work
[05:30] <nicholasw> Can someone help me setting up WPA?
[05:30] <tzadik> sigh....
[05:30] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: to the extent of my knowledge, yes
[05:30] <snooze_> here's a little sooong i wrooote, you might want to sing it nooote for noooote, don't worryyyy, beeeeeeeeee happy *jump*
[05:30] <bur[n] er_> mordof: i wouldn't give up on it
[05:30] <tzadik> i need my mlb.com
[05:30] <Ralith> _jason: you there?
[05:30] <snooze_> tzadik: man whois :)
[05:30] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: open your /etc/apt/sources.list and find out :)
[05:31] <nicholasw> I'm looking at the wiki and am confused
[05:31] <mordof> snooze_: before i format im gonna go check my email on the lappy
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: lol
[05:31] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[05:31] <wastrel> the totem plugin for mozilla/firefox sucks.  mplayer works much much better
[05:31] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: I added 'multiverse' to the end of several of the lines tehre
[05:31] <wastrel> (in breezy at least)
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: i just told you MY addr.
[05:31] <bur[n] er_> speaking of totem plugin... anyone try the dapper one yet?
[05:31] <wastrel> also the mplayer plugin doesn't crash the browser when you use the back button
[05:31] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: yep
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: i will discover my problem with the nvidia driver tomorrow
[05:31] <anto9us> tzadik, it works for me
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: in particular
[05:31] <mordof> snooze_: oh ok
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: not now
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: too drunk now
[05:31] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: close and re-open rhythmbox?
[05:31] <mordof> snooze_: lmao
[05:32] <snooze_> :)
[05:32] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: did that ages ago, and I've been testing with totem anyway.
[05:32] <anto9us> tzadik, you need to install flash
[05:32] <ownerx> totem is good if you install totem-xine
[05:32] <wastrel> i don't know why people like totem :]   mplayer seems so much better
[05:32] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: try the totem-xine thing ;)
[05:32] <bur[n] er_> totem is a prettier interface imo
[05:32] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: wow, it spontaneously started working
[05:32] <bur[n] er_> lol
[05:32] <mordof> bur[n] er_: while im at it.. is there a different distro you recommend?
[05:32] <Protocol1> cool I got gmail to work off my thunderbird
[05:32] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: it must've needed to propogate or something
[05:33] <bur[n] er_> mordof: ubuntu or kubuntu :)
[05:33] <wastrel> i don't use gmplayer... prefer keyboard commands anyway
[05:33] <tzadik> the first page is ok
[05:33] <tzadik> i think that is flash
[05:33] <snooze_> apropos gmail
[05:33] <mordof> bur[n] er_: well im already on ubuntu so ill just stick with that
[05:33] <snooze_> can i let gmail fetch some pop3 accounts?
[05:33] <tzadik> hold on i will get the page
[05:33] <anto9us> tzadik, what doesn't work?
[05:33] <tzadik> that doesn't work
[05:33] <graft> damnit
[05:33] <H> hi everyone
[05:33] <snooze_> i just have some pop3 accounts that don't support forwarding that stuff to another account
[05:33] <Protocol1> snooze_ , yup
[05:34] <graft> does anyone know if you can use nvidia drivers with xorg 7.0.0?
[05:34] <snooze_> and i would like to fetch them via gmail
[05:34] <Protocol1> i just set mine up a few minutes ago
[05:34] <snooze_> Protocol1: ?
[05:34] <snooze_> Protocol1: why am i too stupid too find it in preferences?
[05:34] <vwguy337> anyone using breezy on a mac?
[05:34] <Protocol1> snooze_, did you need help
[05:35] <snooze_> mordof: i can't answer you via query cause i did not register yet. :(
[05:35] <mordof> bur[n] er_: ok... off to format, for the third time this week :S
[05:35] <snooze_> Protocol1: maybe? :)
[05:35] <mordof> snooze_: oh ok
[05:35] <mordof> bur[n] er_: ubuntu is seeming less reliable than windows at this point
[05:35] <nicholasw> Does anyone know hoto setup WPA?
[05:35] <ownerx> mordof blasphemy
[05:35] <tzadik> ok... go to mlb.com, then look for the Video section, and click on the first link, labeled "350K"
[05:35] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis: the codecs easyubuntu installs. where else can i get those from?
[05:36] <wastrel> what's wpa?
[05:36] <Protocol1> snooze_: check this out   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_Gmail_with_Thunderbird_and_Mozilla_Suite
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: then how come i cant get into X and i have to format? i just installed ubuntu this afternoon
[05:36] <tzadik> that crashes firefox
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: if i can bother you via icq,mail,aim let me know, would be fantastic, but i just want to go to sleep, have to go to the hospital tomorrow and the will put a needle in my veighn to let half a liter flow inside me :)
[05:36] <snooze_> ah
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  could check the Mplayer homepage - they have several collections
[05:36] <ownerx> mordof you shouldnt have to format
[05:36] <snooze_> a LINK!
[05:36] <snooze_> see!
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: thanks a lot! :)
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: then help me fix it :P i cant
[05:36] <ownerx> did you try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: but uhm
[05:36] <Protocol1> bookmark it
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: yes, didnt work
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: i want to continue using the web interface only
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: ive also tried reinstalling my drivers
[05:36] <bur[n] er_> mordof: it's just an nvidia driver issue, i'm sure it can be fixed, try the forums or wiki?
[05:36] <Protocol1> ok...fine
[05:36] <ownerx> try selecting vesa
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: i do NOT want to use thunderbird.
[05:37] <Protocol1> whatever works for you
[05:37] <wastrel> i really like thunderbird
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: just the webinterface and gmail should just fetch some pop3 accounts.
[05:37] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i cant get on the forums or wiki.. besides using the computer on the other side of the house, but people want to go to bed
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: is it discovered there, too?
[05:37] <mordof> ownerx: how do i do that
[05:37] <snooze_> wastrel: i want it the webmail way cause i'm constantly somewhere else.
[05:37] <Protocol1> yeah in the preferences
[05:37] <wastrel> balsa and sylpheed are other options... haven't used them in a while tho
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: oh!
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: thanks a lot! :)
[05:37] <ownerx> mordof when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select vesa as the driver
[05:37] <Protocol1> ok
[05:37] <Protocol1> ttyl
[05:37] <wastrel> snooze_:  oic.  try mail2web.com
[05:37] <ownerx> it should work 90% of the time
[05:38] <snooze_> wastrel: perfect, thanks a lot, too!
[05:38] <mordof> ownerx: i have nv drivers and vid card....
[05:38] <mordof> ill try it though i guess
[05:38] <wastrel> np
[05:38] <anto9us> tzadik, try setting it to use realplayer if you've installed it
[05:38] <tzadik> i can't even click "preferences"
[05:38] <tzadik> to change my player
[05:38] <amonkey> what's a good way to find video dimensions on the command line? file only works on some types
[05:38] <tzadik> that will crash it
[05:39] <tzadik> s
[05:39] <anto9us> tzadik, I'd look into it but it's asking for my money and I'm not a baseball fan
[05:39] <nicholasw> Guys help!
[05:40] <SCI4All> I just shot myself in the foot, and deleted my site-packages directory. I tried reinstalling python but that didn't help. Any ideas?
[05:40] <mordof> ownerx: there, dpkg-reconfigure has been run, now should i try to start x?
[05:41] <ulrik> MAC?
[05:41] <vwguy337> ulrik: mac hardware
[05:42] <anto9us> SCI4All, site-packages are where all the python extras are stored, try re-installing the other packages with python in the name
[05:42] <ulrik> well it's spelt as Mac or mac, not MAC
[05:42] <mebaran151> my forcedeth client refuses to dhcp
[05:42] <ulrik> but anyway, this is ubuntu on an ibook
[05:42] <mebaran151> what can I do
[05:42] <mebaran151> this is in the bios
[05:42] <ulrik> and I have another old mac with dapper
[05:42] <mebaran151> I think I have an nforce4 chipset
[05:42] <vwguy337> ulrik: ok...do you know if breezy will work on the new MacBook with the Intel chipsets?
[05:42] <kryptoz> hey guys ...
[05:43] <tzadik> if anyone wants to help with the mlb problem, give me a private chat
[05:43] <bcherian> Hey guys I'm trying to build a specific application from source, it's called brl-cad. But I get a weird error on make.
[05:43] <tzadik> i will give the password
[05:43] <SCI4All> anto9us, it's a new install so not much was there. I tried to reinstall python-apt with apt-get --reinstall install python-apt.  Nothing
[05:43] <ulrik> vwguy337: no linux will work on them so far, they use EFI, not Open Firmware or BIOS
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> tzadik,  try them under the Opera browser?
[05:44] <tzadik> good point
[05:44] <Mordof> ok... im in X until next restart then it wont work again
[05:44] <vwguy337> ulrik: damn...guess i'm not buying a macbook then
[05:44] <ulrik> vwguy337: in short, the firmware is a new kind that neither linux nor windows is adapted to yet
[05:44] <ulrik> vwguy337: Red Hat is working on it though
[05:44] <ownerx> mordof did startx work
[05:44] <anto9us> SCI4All, use synaptic and get it to list broken packages, that may help
[05:44] <vwguy337> ulrik: i've not been able to get a redhat disty to work on anything so far...LOL
[05:44] <Mordof> ownerx, yeah.. but its glitchy, and next time i restart it wont work again
[05:44] <ulrik> hehe
[05:45] <ownerx> it should do mordof
[05:45] <Mordof> ownerx, but i cant restart my computer!
[05:45] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: mozilla-mplayer was of no use?
[05:45] <La_PaRCa> Is it normal that two different hard disks in the same IDE cable show in fdisk both as hddX
[05:45] <ownerx> because the changes are made to the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:45] <vwguy337> ulrik: now...if i could only get my damn wireless working on this laptop, i could blow away winblows...lol
[05:45] <anto9us> tzadik, you way forward is with realplayer
[05:45] <wastrel> Mordof:  i'm thinking you need to get some video driver modules starting on boot maybe?
[05:45] <ownerx> !nvidia
[05:45] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:45] <Mordof> wastrel, NO! thats the problem!!!
[05:45] <ulrik> vwguy337: yep, that's the case for many of us. I still don't have wireless working on mine.. though I need to try even harder
[05:46] <tzadik> so install realplayer?
[05:46] <wastrel> Mordof:  ?
[05:46] <SCI4All> It's a server only install, plus I don't think apt thinks any thing is broken. Maybe I'll install on my laptop and copy it over.
[05:46] <bcherian> any help guys on my problem regarding building brl-cad from source
[05:46] <mebaran151> any ideas why my nforce controller can't dhcp
[05:46] <Mordof> wastrel, installing drivers is why im having these problems
[05:46] <vwguy337> ulrik: it's a matter of time for me...i have the files downloaded from the acx111.sf.net page...just don't have time to hack them into the system...lol
[05:46] <mebaran151> I get a mac address and everything
[05:46] <wastrel> my wireless is working.
[05:46] <mebaran151> it dhcp'ed fine when it ran windows
[05:47] <mebaran151> nforce4 chipset
[05:47] <wastrel> mac address is hard-coded into the NIC i believe
[05:47] <anto9us> tzadik, yes, realplayer 10 and set mlb to use it
[05:47] <SCI4All> thanks for the ideas, bye
[05:47] <anto9us> tzadik, works for me on bbc's website
[05:47] <vwguy337> ulrik: thanks for the info!  =] 
[05:48] <LaptopZZ> how do you change the gnome icon sizes?
[05:48] <ulrik> vwguy337: no problem
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: you can zoom in with ctrl+ and ctrl -
[05:49] <ownerx> wastel, mac address can be changed
[05:49] <ownerx> easily in windows at least
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: and you can 'stretch icon' via some menu command
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> ulrik: I mean on the desktop
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> ulrik: my font size is sane
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> ulrik: but the icons are always huge
[05:49] <wastrel> ownerx:  yes but there is a mac address associated with the hardware
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: Stretch the icons is what you have to do
[05:49] <mebaran151> wastrel, you can tell it to fudge the mac address tough
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: I don't know if you can change the default size
[05:49] <wastrel> i know :] 
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> man
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> that's nuts
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> I don't want to resize them all
[05:49] <ulrik> yep
[05:49] <Mordof> ok, i went through that driverhowto thing, im gonna test it now
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: I want mine bigger
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> I just want it smaller by default, thanks tho
[05:50] <ulrik> :-)
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> my screen is 1280x768 10.6"
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> I don't need icons the size of my thumb
[05:50] <Eleaf> does anybody want to help me get video out working on my iBook?
[05:50] <Eleaf> I have a huge presentation tomorrow
[05:50] <Eleaf> I need to present it on a projector
[05:50] <Eleaf> This is worth 50% of my final term grade.
[05:50] <Eleaf> mmm
[05:51] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, are you talking about the desktop or in folders?
[05:51] <ulrik> Eleaf: it could be hard. I have an ibook, but I've never tried, so I'm not much help :(
[05:51] <wastrel> Eleaf:  what videocard?
[05:51] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: desktop
[05:51] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:51] <tzadik> what's the best way to install realplayer
[05:51] <Eleaf> wastrel, the default ati one...
[05:51] <Eleaf> ulrik, mmmm
[05:51] <tzadik> add applications doesn't work
[05:52] <ulrik> Eleaf: it could be the ati radeon Mobility M9/9200 something
[05:52] <tzadik> for that
[05:52] <Protocol1> tzadik: from the website
[05:52] <ulrik> or r250 or whatever
[05:52] <wastrel> eleaf i'd imagine hat changes depending on what ibook you have :] 
[05:52] <tzadik> it says it can't find
[05:52] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: the folder view is bearable, though I still miss windows style list view
[05:52] <tzadik> which website
[05:52] <ulrik> lots of different names
[05:52] <tzadik> real.com?
[05:52] <Eleaf> ulrik, it's older than that
[05:52] <ulrik> aha
[05:52] <wastrel> Eleaf:  try lspci | grep ATI
[05:52] <ulrik> okay
[05:52] <Eleaf> wastrel, the origional iBook g3
[05:52] <Protocol1> follow the instructions and then get the dependancies
[05:52] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, I'm looking into desktop icons, you have a list view in folders
[05:52] <Eleaf> wastrel, the first white one they ever made
[05:52] <ulrik> hot damn, an old ibook
[05:52] <wastrel> not super familiar with apple hardware ;] 
[05:53] <Eleaf> wastrel, it is a rage mobility m3
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: I would like multiple columns, not just one
[05:53] <Eleaf> This is huge, if I can't get this to present, I'm screwed.
[05:53] <Protocol1> i really thought about getting an ibook...but a compaq looked more promising
[05:53] <ownerx> doesnt the 'ati' driver work for rage mobility
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: my movies folder has 600 movies, it takes a long time to view with one column
[05:53] <Mordof> YES!!! IT WORKS!
[05:53] <wastrel> Eleaf:  you're on breezy/xorg ?
[05:53] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, try zooming out
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> that dodesn't work
[05:53] <Eleaf> wastrel, yes
[05:53] <ulrik> Eleaf: Hate to say it, but to make oneself depend on that you get this to work the night before is quite bad planning
[05:54] <sizzam> when i open animated gifs in 'Eye of Gnome' or 'gqview', the animation doesn't play.  am i missing a library or something that could fix this?
[05:54] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, in icon view
[05:54] <LaptopZZ> but my bigger issue is the desktop
[05:54] <Eleaf> ulrik, I've been trying to get it to work for months actually.
[05:54] <nicholasw> Can someone help me with WPA on a linksys WMP54g
[05:54] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, looking into that
[05:54] <Mordof> ownerx, i did that binaryinstall thing for nvidia... i forgot to do that this time, last time i did that as well but had forgotten, now it works perfectly :D
[05:54] <ulrik> Eleaf: but look on the forums... it should be able to get it to work so that _only_ the external monitor works and not the internal one
[05:54] <ownerx> good to hear mordof
[05:54] <ulrik> Eleaf: try that if everything else fails
[05:54] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: the icon view zoom out works somewhat, but it still gives a huge icon separation
[05:54] <tzadik> ok, i will try that.... thanks all
[05:54] <bcherian> Can someone please help me with building brl-cad from source?
[05:54] <Eleaf> ulrik, I looked there.  It's only for the newer iBooks.  All the posts are years old too.
[05:54] <Eleaf> lol
[05:55] <tzadik> everyone go to sleep
[05:55] <tzadik> lol
[05:55] <Mordof> ownerx, and i can actually reboot my computer from the logout menu option again! before it was disabled.... all is well
[05:55] <Eleaf> ulrik, I would be soo happy if only the external one worked...
[05:55] <Eleaf> that would be great..
[05:55] <Mordof> ownerx, you're my new hero!
[05:55] <ownerx> lol
[05:55] <ulrik> Eleaf: then try (something I read about, never tried).. start it plugged-in and close the lid soon after
[05:55] <ulrik> Eleaf: that could enable just the external monitor
[05:55] <ulrik> Eleaf: but it could also just not work
[05:55] <Mordof> ownerx, how do i check to see if my drivers are the right ones i wanted installed?
[05:55] <Eleaf> ulrik, hmm...  that enables sleep, which makes the computer unusable
[05:56] <Eleaf> lol
[05:56] <Eleaf> aw
[05:56] <ulrik> Eleaf: sure? Not with external things
[05:56] <spazzz> *Grumbles* Why can't people use standard stupid archives.  Does anyone know how I can open a .bin file in Linux?  Stupid thing is a stuffit archive
[05:56] <Eleaf> ulrik, I don't think it detects the external monitor
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> ulrik: Starting from where?  Long trip or no?
[05:56] <ulrik> k. It's just some solution I read about
[05:56] <ownerx> try glxinfo mordof
[05:56] <ulrik> tonyyarusso: from Skne, southern tip of sweden. So it's about 4 hours on a slow boat
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> ulrik: Ah, 'k.
[05:57] <ulrik> tonyyarusso: I'd say 200-400 ksm
[05:57] <ulrik> *kms
[05:57] <Eleaf> mmmmmmmmm
[05:57] <spazzz> I'm starting to think i'm on an ignore list *heh*
[05:57] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, "Applications | System Tools | Configuration Editor, Apps | Nautilus | Icon View" has a few settings to tweak
[05:57] <Mordof> ownerx, lol, glxinfo fails HORRIBLY, cant find anything
[05:57] <ulrik> tonyyarusso: it's for buying cheap beer & booze XD
[05:57] <nicholasw> so am i, spazzz
[05:58] <ownerx> mordof it should work if you are in X......
[05:58] <Mordof> ownerx, nope, i am in X but it fails miserably, i must still have errors with somthing
[05:58] <spazzz> nicholasw: JOY someone can see me *heh*
[05:58] <ownerx> see if glxgears -printfps
[05:58] <ownerx> works
[05:58] <Mordof> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:58] <Mordof> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[05:59] <ownerx> yes
[05:59] <ownerx> no 3d
[05:59] <Mordof> :|
[05:59] <Mordof> but i want 3d
[05:59] <intelikey> i would like someont that knows a little about apt to look at "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8688 "   and tell me why apt always seems to do that on a clean install ?
[05:59] <intelikey> someone   even
[05:59] <ownerx> which is strange because glxgears works in the vesa drivers
[05:59] <nicholasw> Lets just CTCP them all until they yell at us.
[05:59] <Mordof> ownerx, i think i should just format anyway...
[05:59] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: I'll look into that thanks
[05:59] <ownerx> mordof, its up to you, but i think its extreme
[06:00] <spazzz> nicholasw: I've been trying to fix a bunch of problums tonight and either no one knows how to help me or they just are ignoring me.  Drives me nuts *heh*
[06:00] <Mordof> ownerx, i want my stuff to work...
[06:00] <amphi> heh, the gentoo guy has quit ms: http://news.com.com/Gentoo+Linux+founder+quits+Microsoft/2100-7344_3-6039101.html
[06:00] <Eleaf> lol
[06:00] <Mordof> ownerx, none of the screensavers will work anymore
[06:00] <Mordof> im suprised X is running
[06:00] <wastrel> hi
[06:00] <ownerx> yes
[06:00] <ownerx> something is wrong in xorg.conf
[06:00] <vwguy337> ulrik: quick question...you mentioned redhat on the new macbook...is that actually redhat or fedora?
[06:00] <nicholasw> spazzz: exactly, I'm just trying to get  WPA to work. I've had really good luck with ubuntu until rightn now
[06:01] <Mordof> ownerx, yeah.. but i dont know what to do to fix it
[06:01] <ownerx> mordof can you post your xorf.conf to pastebin
[06:01] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8688
[06:01] <ulrik> vwguy337: I have no Idea... it should go into both.. and then into every distro around
[06:01] <Mordof> ownerx, where is it?
[06:01] <ownerx> xorg.conf
[06:01] <ownerx> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:01] <ownerx> its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:01] <Mordof> ownerx, not pastebin, my xorg.conf
[06:01] <Mordof> k
[06:01] <ulrik> vwguy337: I have no Idea... it should go into both.. and then into every distro around
[06:01] <spazzz> nicholasw: WPA?
[06:01] <ulrik> [sorry] 
[06:02] <nicholasw> Yeah, it's for securing wireless networks
[06:02] <vwguy337> ulrik: k...thanks...i'm still seeing PPC only on the fedora site...  =[
[06:02] <amphi> nicholasw: you need wpa_supplicant for a start, I believe
[06:02] <Psi-Jack> using find . -group mysql... How would I get it to chgrp all matched files to a different GID?
[06:02] <nicholasw> Yeah i got that far, amphi, i read the wiki but it's not helping
[06:02] <Mordof> ownerx, http://pastebin.com/555485
[06:02] <ulrik> vwguy337: absolutely, it will take quite long time... my guess is a year... I mean there aren't many of these machines to work on yet
[06:02] <intelikey> see my nice pretty error  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8689  ????
[06:03] <wastrel> nicholasw:  is that that cisco thing?
[06:03] <vwguy337> ulrik: tja...verdammt...lol
[06:03] <nicholasw> uhhh, i don't know
[06:03] <elkbuntu> amphi re: gentoo dude, somehow i doubt he emerged clean ;)
[06:03] <nicholasw> It's like WEP except more secure, i've heard
[06:03] <nicholasw> but i Don't have a choice whether to use it not, i'm forced to
[06:03] <ownerx> mordof uncomment 2 lines
[06:03] <ownerx> #Load "dri"
[06:04] <ownerx> #Load GLcore
[06:04] <ownerx> and save
[06:04] <Mordof> ownerx, they arent commented...
[06:04] <Tuxiscool> Yay! Fresh install of dapper seems to boot properly.
[06:04] <mebaran151> my nforce card won't dhcp
[06:04] <ownerx> oops
[06:04] <ownerx> i mean comment them
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: I saw it, but have no idea what it means!
[06:04] <mebaran151> I don't think it is routing the packets properly
[06:04] <Mordof> ok
[06:05] <mebaran151> or assigning eth0 correctly
[06:05] <Mordof> ownerx, now restart x?
[06:05] <ownerx> yes
[06:05] <slavik-lt> anyone having trouble downloading wine from the wine repo?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to detach a GUI program (ie Gaim) so that it can stay running while I log out of Gnome and switch into another window manager?
[06:06] <slavik-lt> I get a "remote end closed connection" error
[06:06] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: I Found it
[06:06] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: nautilus --> pref change 'default icon zoom'
[06:06] <slavik-lt> tonyyarusso: no
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> slavik-lt: Nuts.
[06:06] <intelikey> well tonyyarusso i thank you for looking and responding..... that is the first respondance ive gotten for the last fourteen questions i've asked in here.
[06:06] <frogzoo> tonyyarusso: mebbe run irssi on a vty ?
[06:06] <intelikey> not counding repetes
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Must be some toughies I guess.
[06:06] <intelikey> counting
[06:07] <SeyToN> dammit!!!
[06:07] <intelikey> yeah i guess.
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> frogzoo: I have irssi on a vty...
[06:07] <SeyToN> how do i check the java version i got install?
[06:08] <_jason> SeyToN: java -version
[06:08] <demetri> java -version
[06:08] <_jason> SeyToN: if you have more than one, you can set it with 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
[06:08] <Mordof> ownerx, ok, im back
[06:08] <ownerx> yess
[06:08] <Mordof> i totally restarted my computer
[06:09] <mebaran151> the installer won't work with my forcedeth built ehternet card
[06:09] <ownerx> did you uncomment those lines
[06:09] <Mordof> no
[06:09] <amphi> tonyyarusso: run irssi in screen
[06:09] <Mordof> not yet
[06:09] <vijay> hi everybody, i am unable to login into ubuntu  the error is about .ICEauthority
[06:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell vijay about xhangs
[06:09] <Mordof> ownerx, should i?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I am running irssi in screen.  I was wondering about GUI apps.
[06:09] <ownerx> yes
[06:10] <spazzz> Ok let me try this then
[06:10] <ownerx> #Load "dri"
[06:10] <ownerx> #Load GLcore
[06:10] <spazzz> Does anyone know how to convert .ico files to .png files?
[06:10] <ownerx> oops
[06:10] <ownerx> wait mordof
[06:10] <ownerx> leave them commented
[06:10] <amphi> tonyyarusso: oh, sorry - not really, unless you tried xmove, ran a second X server while you restarted the first perhaps
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  thers some 'icon tools' package.. or use gimp. or 'imagemagic'
[06:10] <vwguy337> ownerx: too late
[06:10] <wastrel> Eleaf:  you still there?
[06:10] <amphi> tonyyarusso: OTOH, merely switch wms shouldn't kill running X progs
[06:10] <frogzoo> spazzz: gimp I'm guessing
[06:11] <Mordof> pfft, im still getting glitches
[06:11] <amphi> spazzz: perhaps imagemagick (convert)
[06:11] <Mordof> i think im just going to format... honestly, i want everything to work
[06:11] <vwguy337> Mordof: that's a bit extreme, methinks...
[06:11] <Mordof> im not going to just let it go that i spent $210 on a video card, and now even my screensavers dont work
[06:11] <ownerx> mordof you should leave the lines Load GLcore and Load "dri" commented
[06:11] <spazzz> alright thanks
[06:11] <vijay> can anyone helpme out, iam unable to login,  it is displaying an error about .ICEautority
[06:11] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[06:11] <Mordof> ownerx, it makes no difference
[06:11] <ownerx> ok
[06:12] <ownerx> thats what the ati guide says
[06:12] <Mordof> ownerx, everything runs the same with them commented or not
[06:12] <frogzoo> !rss-glx
[06:12] <ubotu> somebody said rss-glx was a package containing some fairly bling screensavers. Install the package, then run /usr/bin/rss-glx_install.pl
[06:12] <Psi-Jack> Well, that's annoying as heck. Why doesn't the mysql-server ask for what to set the root password to for it?
[06:12] <amphi> spazzz: if you have many files to convert, imagemagick is your friend; you can do 'em all in one command line
[06:12] <Mordof> ownerx, im running an nvidia card....
[06:12] <bimberi> vijay: did you get a /msg from ubotu?
[06:12] <ownerx> i mean nvidia guide
[06:12] <ownerx> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=latest+nvidia+drivers
[06:12] <Eleaf> wastrel, yea
[06:12] <Eleaf> wastrel, trying to get this to work... ; /
[06:12] <vijay> bimberi:no
[06:12] <bimberi> vijay: ok, it was this ...
[06:12] <bimberi> !xhangs
[06:12] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[06:13] <wastrel> Eleaf:  do you have m3mirror?   http://penguinppc.org/historical/benh/
[06:13] <Christopher> hello channel
[06:13] <Eleaf> wastrel, no..
[06:13] <vwguy337> hi christopher
[06:13] <Mordof> vwguy337, why is re-formating a bit extreme? if i cant get my video to work.. whats the alternative?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Okay, this has happened enough time that it can't just be a fluke.  Description to follow:
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> *times
[06:14] <vijay> bimberi: means, i didn't get you? and how to solve it??
[06:14] <vwguy337> Mordof: how are you chatting with us now?  CLI?
[06:14] <amphi> Mordof: it's character-building to spend a few months in console ;)
[06:14] <Eleaf> I'm not sure what I'm looking for wastrel
[06:14] <Mordof> vwguy337, no, im in X, but i have little functionality
[06:14] <vijay> ubotu: ok
[06:14] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vijay
[06:14] <wastrel> Eleaf:  download m3mirror from that page
[06:14] <Mordof> amphi, no, i just spent $210 on a video card so i could use it, not to use console...
[06:14] <bimberi> vijay: (the post from ubotu above) "If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority"
[06:14] <amphi> Mordof: it was a joke
[06:14] <Razor-X> Mordof: *glare* I use the console in X.
[06:14] <Mordof> amphi, sorry.. im rather frustrated right now
[06:14] <Christopher> wguy by any chance are you familiar with ndiswrapper and the wifi stuff
[06:15] <Razor-X> Is there some reason why Ubuntu can't *detect* my nVidia card?
[06:15] <Eleaf> will that work on a powerbook wastrel ?
[06:15] <vwguy337> Mordof: your problem is video only...so why blow away the rest of the working system??
[06:15] <vijay> bimberi: ok thanks
[06:15] <vwguy337> Mordof: my 2 cents
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> I log into Gnome normally on start.  If System>New Login I can start that, but on Ctrl-Alt-F7 the screen goes black, console switching breaks, and the only fix is to hit the power button and do a force kill.  What gives?
[06:15] <bimberi> vijay: yw :)
[06:15] <vwguy337> Christopher: a little...what's up?
[06:15] <amphi> Razor-X: what do you mean, 'detect'? I'm sure lspci will show it
[06:15] <Razor-X> Because, after leafing through my nVidia installer logs, and trying to insmod the module that comes with nvidia-glx-legacy, it says ``hardware not found''.
[06:15] <Mordof> vwguy337, if i cant watch videos, do anything 3d, or even 2d gfx.. or even use screensavers... thats half the working system to me
[06:15] <Razor-X> On the other hand, an ``lspci -v'' shows it.
[06:16] <wastrel> Eleaf:  i have no idea...
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Should I try reconfiguring gdm?  xorg?  Something else?
[06:16] <amphi> tonyyarusso: what video card?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> amphi: ATI X300
[06:16] <Razor-X> Which is confusing the hell out of me, because the same problem is what the nVidia installer is complaining about -- it can't insmod the newly compiled module.
[06:16] <Mordof> vwguy337, X glitches and goes fuzzy when i log in
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> amphi: fglrx from Seveas repo
[06:17] <vwguy337> Mordof: well...i'm not sure then...unfortunately, I'm not as well versed as many of the others here...sorry
[06:17] <Christopher> wguy, i have been on the ubuntu wiki reading about setting up my wireless net connection and i believe my ndiswrapper is installed thru synaptic along with the required utilities
[06:17] <amphi> tonyyarusso: proprietary driver... if you don't need 3d accel, you'd be better off with the xorg driver
[06:17] <Christopher> but i cant access them
[06:17] <ownerx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[06:17] <Mordof> im also sure you guys are tired of listening to me complaining about this, lol
[06:17] <ownerx> fglrx guide
[06:18] <Razor-X> Mordof: You'll get kicked if you complain *too* much, meh.
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Think that might be the issue?
[06:18] <Razor-X> Mordof: What have you tried insofar?
[06:18] <vwguy337> Christopher: is your wireless card recognized?  i tried to use the ndiswrapper, but it doesn't seem to work with my Linksys card...yet
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> amphi: And what's the best way to go back?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:18] <Christopher> also my chipset is compatible with ndiswrapper
[06:18] <amphi> tonyyarusso: it might be worth giving the xorg radeon driver a go; dunno how deep fglrx has sunk its claws into your system ;)
[06:18] <ownerx> which device is it christopher
[06:18] <Christopher> ahh
[06:19] <Christopher> same thing
[06:19] <vwguy337> Christopher: which specific linksys card do you have?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> amphi: That sounds worrisome..
[06:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you might want to back up your current xorg.conf file, but yeah
[06:19] <ownerx> i managed to get my linksys wusb working with the new opensource drivers
[06:19] <Christopher> linksys wrt54g speedbooster..
[06:19] <ownerx> not ndiswrapper
[06:19] <ownerx> chris yours might work
[06:19] <Mordof> Razor-X, ive tried reinstalling drivers 4 times, ive tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, ive tried to edit my xorg.conf manually... ummmm, ive downlaoded some other packages for it (nvidia-glx) and did a sudo apt-get install, not sure for what atm
[06:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: did you have to install a special kernel for it?
[06:19] <mishari> hello, i need to enable xdmcp on an ubuntu diskless image as per the instructions in http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2005/12/08/xdmcp-for-mac but since i can't access the GUI just yet, is there any way to enable it in a config file?
[06:19] <ownerx> not sure which chipset it uses
[06:20] <ownerx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846
[06:20] <Razor-X> Mordof: What would a dpkg-reconfigure or xorg.conf hacking do? Meh. Shouldn't.
[06:20] <vwguy337> ownerx: what'd you do to get it working?  i can't get the damn acx111 drivers to install right...  :-(
[06:20] <amphi> tonyyarusso: I'm lucky, my radeon is old enough that the xorg driver supports 3d accel
[06:20] <Razor-X> Mordof: Have you tried installing the official files?
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> amphi: No, modules restricted-modules though I think.
[06:20] <Mordof> Razor-X, yes, thats what i mean by the drivers
[06:20] <Razor-X> Errr, using the official installer, I mean.
[06:20] <ownerx> vwguy337, this ones compiled from source
[06:20] <Mordof> Razor-X, the official installer wont work
[06:20] <Razor-X> Mordof: What's the error?
[06:20] <Christopher> i had it recognized on gnome after installing wifi on there... but it didnt work but it was shown in the menu,, tried to activate but it didnt work
[06:20] <Mordof> Razor-X, its installed on the old kernel, needs to be recompiled
[06:20] <vwguy337> ownerx: crap...lol
[06:21] <ownerx> vwguy its pretty easy
[06:21] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you could try backing up xorg.conf, doing drxx and choosing radeon, and see how you go
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I seem to have fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-10-686 installed actually.
[06:21] <ownerx> look at the link i posted
[06:21] <Mordof> Razor-X, so i got the correct gcc version, and the kernel header files for this kernel, and the installer worked perfectly
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> amphi: 'k.
[06:21] <amphi> tonyyarusso: that may be for the modules
[06:21] <Razor-X> Mordof: Then what?
[06:21] <vwguy337> ownerx: going there now...brb
[06:21] <Razor-X> Mordof: By the way, did you have to pass anything special to the installer to get it to build?
[06:21] <Mordof> Razor-X, then X wont start, and i have to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to even get into X
[06:21] <Mordof> Razor-X, no
[06:21] <ownerx> those drivers are for wireless cards using the rt2400, rt2500, rt2570 chipsets
[06:22] <Razor-X> Mordof: After that, what?
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Yeah, looks like it.
[06:22] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you might want to ask seveas though; I know nothing about fglrx except that it seems to give people much grief (like nvidia *cough* Mordof *cough* ;)
[06:22] <Mordof> Razor-X, X starts, with many login glitches, and i have no video support... no screensavers working, nothing 3d at all or anything
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: ping
[06:22] <wastrel> i'm using fglrx
[06:22] <Razor-X> Mordof: Hmmm...., what card are you using?
[06:23] <amphi> wastrel: no problems with console switching?
[06:23] <Mordof> Razor-X, just bough t a new 6800xt
[06:23] <wastrel> amphi:  console switching eh.. sec
[06:23] <wastrel> don't seem to have
[06:23] <bimberi> mishari: (guessing to some extent) edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, find [xdmcp]  and change 'Enable=false' to 'Enable=true' - then restart gdm
[06:24] <amphi> wastrel: what card?
[06:24] <Mordof> Razor-X, last install i did, it worked perfect when i installed the driver before i updated the kernel.... the updated kernel didnt complain
[06:24] <Mordof> and everything worked perfect
[06:24] <wastrel> amphi:  mobility radeion 9600
[06:24] <Mordof> but i got told not to do it that way
[06:24] <wastrel> radeon
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Mine was specifically if I tried to start two X sessions with System>New Login, and then get back to the first display.
[06:24] <sherwin> hello
[06:24] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  heh ok i'll try that
[06:25] <Razor-X> Mordof: Uhhhh... not sure, sorry :\.
[06:25] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  er, i don't have a System>New Login ....  :]   pardon my ignorance
[06:26] <Mordof> reinstalling ubuntu... ttyl everyone
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Applications > System > New Login, actually.
[06:26] <amphi> wastrel: you can get the same effect I think by switching to a VT and doing startx -- :1
[06:26] <ownerx> tonyyarusso thats a known issue with ati drivers
[06:26] <ownerx> fglrx
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: Ya?  Good to know.
[06:27] <ownerx> they even said in their readme file
[06:27] <ownerx> locks up computer
[06:27] <amphi> ownerx: pfft
[06:27] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  mmm yes that is indeed not working
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: Heh, should go find that readme it sounds like.
[06:27] <wastrel> very ugly :] 
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: But yet you have not had to reboot yet.
[06:27] <amphi> tonyyarusso: go with the xorg driver IMHO, if youcan live without 3d accel
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I can.  Until it's fixed anyway.
[06:28] <ownerx> tony http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33844819
[06:28] <hunterp> i used an actual debian server in my sources.list now i've upgraded to 5.10 and some of my packages are newer than they should be and i can't install anything, any smart ideas on how to fix this
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> amphi: And the drxx is the way to switch it, right?
[06:28] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  no i did ctrl-alt-f1, dropped to console & then ctrl-alt-f7, brought me back to this session
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Any way to copy an entire file to the clipboard in terminal?
[06:28] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  figured i'd try that before killing X
[06:28] <vwguy337> ownerx: that particular thread didn't help (i'm pcmcia, rather than usb) but i'm now looking through the forums...thanks for the pointer!
[06:28] <ownerx> np
[06:29] <amphi> tonyyarusso: yeah, that'll change the driver to radeon - dunno how much other fglrx crap will be in xorg.conf, or what effect it'll have...
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Heh.  I could go from F8 to F1, but as soon as I touch F7 again it's all over.
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Okay.
[06:29] <ownerx> 'radeon' works too
[06:29] <mebaran151> tony__, f7 is x's special console
[06:29] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  what about ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X?
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: I'm not sure.  I think that might cause problems sometimes.
[06:30] <amphi> mebaran151: well, X uses the first unused VT, so which one depends on /etc/inittab
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: If you mean when it's locked up, it does nothing.
[06:30] <mebaran151> oh
[06:30] <amphi> mebaran151: here, X is on VT23 ;)
[06:30] <mebaran151> I did not know that
[06:30] <mebaran151> haha
[06:30] <mebaran151> amphi, how can use that many virtual consoles?
[06:30] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  i was lucky i guess, didn't lock up just scrambled the display...
[06:30] <amphi> mebaran151: I spend most of my time in consoles
[06:31] <mebaran151> amphi, I do too
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Okay.
[06:31] <mebaran151> but even in a window manager
[06:31] <Stranger_AR> ] [] [] [-hi!!-] [] [] [
[06:31] <mebaran151> I never had more than 12 xterms open
[06:31] <mebaran151> and that always confused me
[06:31] <amphi> mebaran151: I'm not using them all ATM ;)
[06:31] <Fub> How do I get hotplug to run before fstab?
[06:31] <mebaran151> haha
[06:31] <mebaran151> just run it twice
[06:32] <mebaran151> add mount -a to rc.local
[06:32] <Fub> ok
[06:32] <Fub> thanks
[06:32] <mebaran151> and it will reprocess the fstab
[06:32] <Fub> actually no wait
[06:32] <mebaran151> and remount whatever couldn't be mounted first
[06:32] <wastrel> Eleaf:  did m3mirror work?
[06:32] <Fub> what happens is that it pops up doing bootup and complains it can't find my usb harddisks
[06:33] <mebaran151> so any ideas on dhclient?
[06:33] <kentling> help with spyware?
[06:33] <amphi> mebaran151: what about it?
[06:33] <mebaran151> it won't dhcp my forcedeth device
[06:33] <mebaran151> it's an nforce4 embedded gigabit ethernet controller
[06:33] <mebaran151> works fine on my other pc
[06:34] <zoinks> are the xgl and compiz debs in universe usable?
[06:34] <wastrel> mebaran151:  it works if you configure it manually?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> kentling: How'd you manage to find spyware?
[06:34] <amphi> mebaran151: and you can configure it manually?
[06:34] <mebaran151> wastrel, no
[06:34] <mebaran151> that's why I don't think it's routing correctly
[06:35] <mebaran151> when I set up static ip's
[06:35] <mebaran151> and just leave it at that
[06:35] <kentling> I'm not sure, but downloader is listed as spyware on ww3.ca.com, and I'm wondering if it's causing me problems.
[06:35] <mebaran151> the packets don't go anywhere
[06:35] <ownerx> kentling, in ubuntu? i doubt it
[06:35] <kentling> My IP address has been asking for .ru sites  that I've not visited...
[06:35] <wastrel> mebaran151:  you can't ping another node on the LAN?
[06:35] <mebaran151> let me set it up now and recheck
[06:35] <kentling> I know we're not supposed to have adware/spyware, but any other ideas?
[06:36] <Eleaf> wastrel, awesome!!
[06:36] <mebaran151> how do I set ifconfig to use a static ip without rerunning the installer
[06:36] <amphi> kentling: 'asking for'?
[06:36] <ownerx> kentlingg, which downloader are you talking about
[06:36] <amphi> mebaran151: man 5 interfaces ;)
[06:36] <Eleaf> wastrel, I got it to show the image.  It worked fine, but the image was really blurry...  any ideas?  and it was kinda shaking around really fast..
[06:36] <mebaran151> amphi
[06:36] <mebaran151> yes man
[06:36] <mebaran151> garg
[06:36] <Eleaf> wastrel, definetely a good start though
[06:36] <wastrel> Eleaf:  there's reports that the external display is fuzzy with your video card yes... apparently a kernel patch is the solution
[06:36] <kentling> We have IPCop running on our corporate server, which blocks and logs requests for certain websites.
[06:37] <Razor-X> Are there any good terminal emulators for SVGALib?
[06:37] <wastrel> Eleaf:  search m3mirror on www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:37] <kentling> My IP address keeps coming up, and the admin wants to know what's going on...
[06:37] <amphi> mebaran151: ?
[06:37] <ownerx> kentling, dont some other computers share your ip address
[06:37] <ownerx> locally
[06:37] <kentling> I don't think so... This is corporate internal, and we have 8 day leases, I think...
[06:38] <onicrom> hey guys, was wondering if there is a newer version than breezy i could update to? anything bleeding edge ?
[06:38] <kentling> Internal IP addresses, I mean.
[06:38] <mebaran151> I don't like man, because whenever I need it, something terrible has happened
[06:38] <ownerx> do you have any severs installed on that computer
[06:38] <wastrel> onicrom:  bleeding edge is dapper atm
[06:38] <kentling> My computer, or the one running IP cop?
[06:38] <wastrel> onicrom:  it's recommended if you like to break your system i guess :] 
[06:38] <ownerx> your computer kent
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: heh; it just describes the syntax of /etc/network/interfaces
[06:39] <onicrom> sed 's/breeze/dapper' sources.lst?
[06:39] <mebaran151> amphi, yeah
[06:39] <mebaran151> just reading it
[06:39] <kentling> smb, I'm not sure what else -- nothing I've installed.
[06:39] <Eleaf> I'm not sure what to do wastrel
[06:39] <wastrel> onicrom:  not sure... you should probably read up on upgrading to dapper somewhere....
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: basically, you need to change inet dhcp to inet static and fill in the fields
[06:39] <kentling> I'm relating to an active directory domain in the office, which is proxied through an ubuntu server to the internet
[06:40] <amphi> mebaran151: then ifup/down ethX
[06:40] <onicrom> thanks
[06:40] <mebaran151> cool
[06:40] <ownerx> kentling, imho if there is spyware it is on the windows macines
[06:40] <wastrel> Eleaf:  it looks like you'll have to install a custom kernel with this kernel patch that fixes the m3 external video...
[06:40] <mebaran151> right now I'm restling with my router
[06:41] <ownerx> its possible you got hacked but also unlikely
[06:41] <wastrel> Eleaf:  i'm not the one to walk you through it though...
[06:41] <Eleaf> wastrel, yea, but this guy says the patch is attached.. .But there is nothing attached in his post...
[06:41] <mebaran151> turns out static ip isn't really static at all
[06:41] <mebaran151> but dhcp done the same order each time
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> I've got problems.  Pastebin to follow.  Can't start X; configuration bad.
[06:41] <mebaran151> so that might be weird
[06:41] <kentling> ownerx: then, is there a program faking my internal IP address?
[06:41] <Stranger_AR> ] [] [] [-hi!, Who can help me with network profiles in ubuntu breezy?!???-] [] [] [
[06:41] <wastrel> mebaran151:  with your ISP you mean?
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> Or not, can't paste.  Shoot.
[06:42] <kentling> ownerx:How would I know if I got hacked?
[06:42] <ownerx> try installing clamav
[06:42] <Stranger_AR> ] [] [] [-hi!, Who can help me with network profiles in ubuntu breezy?!???-] [] [] [
[06:42] <ownerx> sudo apt-get install clamav
[06:42] <ownerx> and rkhunter
[06:42] <ownerx> sudo apt-get install rkhunter
[06:42] <Eleaf> wastrel, ahhhhhh
[06:42] <CaptainMorgan> is there a cursive font availalbe? such as Bookman ?
[06:42] <kentling> ownerx: what do they do?
[06:43] <mcdenyer> is there any fast way to set up ubuntu to print of a printer thats hooked up to a windows comp on the netwrok?
[06:43] <onicrom> wastrel, im going to cowboy it with changing sources.list and dist-upgrade :)
[06:43] <wastrel> onicrom:  gl
[06:43] <onicrom> thanks for the info though
[06:43] <ownerx> one is a virus scanner one is a rootkit hunter
[06:43] <wastrel> onicrom:  have fun reinstalling from scratch ;] 
[06:43] <Stranger_AR> ] [] [] [-hi!, Iam from argentina an I need HELP!!, who can helps me with network profiles in ubuntu breezy?!???-] [] [] [
[06:43] <onicrom> all the important stuff is on my /home so i can reinstall breezy in 30mins :)
[06:44] <wastrel> Stranger_AR:  only if you stop doing ] [] [] [
[06:44] <kentling> I see clamav in synaptic, but not rkhunter... does it have another name?
[06:44] <Eleaf> wastrel, oh well...
[06:44] <Stranger_AR> ] [] [] [-sorry wastrel-] [] [] [
[06:44] <mcdenyer> how do i print on ubuntu to a printer that is hooked up to a windows computer?
[06:44] <Eleaf> wastrel, thanks for finding m3mirror.  I just don't see a link to that patched kernel anywhere..
[06:44] <ownerx> it might not be in the standard repos
[06:44] <wastrel> Eleaf:  there are links to a patch but it's for an oldish kernel...
[06:44] <phrizer> mcdenyer, system/administration/printing ?
[06:44] <ownerx> install chkrootkit instead
[06:44] <wastrel> Eleaf:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12515&highlight=m3mirror
[06:44] <Eleaf> wastrel, yea, that would really screw stuff up...
[06:44] <mebaran151> wastrel
[06:45] <mebaran151> I connect through a wireless router
[06:45] <kentling> ownerx: then where else would I find it?
[06:45] <wastrel> Eleaf:  you could boot to the patched kernel for the presentation & boot back to good kernel after ;] 
[06:45] <mcdenyer> phrizer, i need to add a netwrok printer and i dont know the url of the printer
[06:45] <Eleaf> ;)
[06:45] <ownerx> !find rkhunter
[06:45] <mcdenyer> phrizer, and the printer is on a windows machine
[06:45] <wastrel> mebaran151:  ah i didn't realize we were talking wifi sry
[06:45] <wastrel> mebaran151:  i don't know much about wifi setup... voodoo
[06:45] <mebaran151> not wifi
[06:45] <mebaran151> regular router
[06:45] <wastrel> i just use the gnome network applet for that
[06:45] <phrizer> mcdenyer, you dont know the address of the printer?
[06:45] <mebaran151> ethernet router actually
[06:45] <wastrel> ok
[06:46] <mebaran151> if it were wifi voodoo
[06:46] <kentling> is that a terminal command?
[06:46] <mebaran151> I wouldn't be so sure what was going on...
[06:46] <mcdenyer> phrizer, nwcwmiend i change it form cups to windows printer
[06:46] <mcdenyer> phrizer, ty
[06:46] <phrizer> mcdenyer, ;D
[06:46] <ownerx> kent its supposed to do a package search in chat
[06:46] <wastrel> so you can configure a static ip on your nic and it should work whether or not the router assigned it... that's what arp is for
[06:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'rkhunter' returned no results.
[06:46] <wastrel> unless things have changed :] 
[06:46] <kentling> !find rkhunter
[06:47] <kentling> ownerx: Sorry, I'm not sure I understand...
[06:47] <Eleaf> wastrel, should I download the rpm..?
[06:47] <Eleaf> wastrel, I don't want to have to compile this...
[06:47] <kentling> Or is that what 'utou' just told us?
[06:47] <Eleaf> wastrel, too much work, and I need to go to sleep.
[06:47] <wastrel> Eleaf:  you could alien it i guess...
[06:47] <Eleaf> wastrel, that's what I was thinking
[06:48] <wastrel> Eleaf:  yeah should work i guess...
[06:48] <Eleaf> ok....
[06:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'rkhunter' returned no results.
[06:48] <wastrel> Eleaf:  you'll have to manually update your grub config
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> Not good.....  GDM is way messed.
[06:49] <Eleaf> wastrel, alright.  On ppc it is yaboot
[06:49] <Eleaf> wastrel, hopefully this doesn't delete my old kernel?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> X in general rather.
[06:49] <Eleaf> man...
[06:50] <Eleaf> wastrel, the link is dead for that rpm.... = (
[06:50] <wastrel> Eleaf: i have no idea... to be safe i'd alien it to a tarball and manually place the bits where they need to go
[06:50] <vanzway> Hey, Whats up? How do I login as root in Ubuntu Linux 5.10
[06:50] <wastrel> Eleaf:  google the filename maybe
[06:50] <Christopher> ownerx, i went to that site and did what it said with that driver.. but im confused about the second to last step to complete it
[06:50] <wastrel> ubotu tell vanzway about root
[06:50] <kentling> ownerX: so what does this mean: http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=453075748
[06:50] <Eleaf> didn't find anything wastrel
[06:50] <wastrel> dunno what to say... sry :] 
[06:51] <wastrel> as far as i could find you need that patch :[
[06:51] <kentling> Would it be possible for a firefox plugin/extension to seek spyware sites?
[06:51] <Christopher> "Configure your wireless device through /etc/network/interfaces. Here is a sample file.  iface rausb0 inet dhcp
[06:51] <Christopher> wireless-essid apname
[06:51] <Christopher> wireless-key xxxxxxxxx
[06:51] <Christopher> wireless-mode Managed
[06:51] <Christopher> auto rausb0"
[06:51] <vanzway> That is the coolest thing I have ever seen!
[06:51] <ownerx> kentling the only way that could run in linux was if you had wine installed
[06:51] <ownerx> even then im not sure if it would work
[06:52] <vanzway> How does that bot work?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> I just broke X/gdm, need help figure out what to do!
[06:52] <kentling> OwnerX: I have wine installed, thoug I'm not running downloader for X with it, as far as I know...
[06:52] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  what did you do?
[06:52] <ownerx> kentling if wine isnt running in your process list
[06:53] <ownerx> i dont see how win32 exe files could infect ubuntu
[06:53] <ownerx> its just not possible
[06:53] <Eleaf> wastrel, if it really doesn't work, I could ask my friend if I can use her computer.  The last time I asked she said "no" though... ;/...
[06:53] <wastrel> vanzway:  /msg ubotu  about a topic you're interested in...  like  /msg ubotu dapper
[06:53] <bintut> hello all...
[06:53] <kentling> I'll have to check next time it comes up.  It ran for a couple hours yesterday, and stopped before I realized it.
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> Ahhh!!!
[06:53] <Christopher> ownerx: do you remember that site to the thread about wireless internet driver.. r u familiar with the procedure i need help with the last step
[06:54] <b-rad> tonyyarusso: what seems to be the trouble?
[06:54] <kentling> OK, but what about a .xpi? something that isn't win32 specific?
[06:54] <bintut> i just installed ubuntu-5.10 64bit pc on my HP Compaq nx6125 laptop that uses an AMD Turion64 processor
[06:54] <ownerx> christopher ok
[06:54] <wastrel> Eleaf:  what video resolution do you run at?
[06:54] <bintut> i installed ubuntu as "server" which i believe to install the base system
[06:54] <Christopher> thanks
[06:55] <Eleaf> wastrel, on my iBook? 1024x768
[06:55] <bintut> now, how can i be root?
[06:55] <wastrel> Eleaf:  might try stepping down to 800x600 maybe?
[06:55] <Christopher> heres what it said after i inserted the module into the kernel
[06:55] <wastrel> i'd try that maybe magic will happen
[06:55] <Christopher> Configure your wireless device through /etc/network/interfaces. Here is a sample file.
[06:55] <Christopher> iface rausb0 inet dhcp
[06:55] <Christopher> wireless-essid apname
[06:55] <Christopher> wireless-key xxxxxxxxx
[06:55] <Christopher> wireless-mode Managed
[06:55] <Christopher> auto rausb0
[06:55] <Eleaf> wastrel, hmm alright.
[06:55] <Christopher> restart the networking service
[06:55] <ownerx> chris pastebin
[06:55] <ownerx> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:55] <Christopher> and then
[06:55] <Christopher> Code:
[06:55] <Christopher> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:55] <Eleaf> ahh
[06:56] <Eleaf> oh wastrel resolution scaling never worked on my iBook.
[06:56] <nicholaspaul> bintut - type sudo before each command. Or type 'sudo -s' to login as root.
[06:56] <Eleaf> wastrel, every time I do anything besides 1024x768, it just scales the screen to the upper left corner, and just leaves black everywhere else
[06:56] <Christopher> how do i configure it.. do i have to do something before i finish the last code
[06:56] <wastrel> Eleaf:  how about hand-editing the xorg.conf and restarting X?
[06:56] <ownerx> chris before you enter the wireless key info
[06:56] <bintut> nicholaspaul: how can i change the root's password?
[06:56] <Christopher> whoosp sorry for the large paste  text
[06:56] <ownerx> did it bring up your devices
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Okay.....
[06:56] <ownerx> does iwconfig list your wireless device now
[06:57] <wastrel> Eleaf:  http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/02/msg00364.html    seems to have a patch for the 2.6 kernels
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> by default, bintut, its the same as your own. type 'sudo ......' then when it asks for password, enter yours
[06:57] <Christopher> well i just did what it said step by step from step 1 and everythign worked but now i got to that step and dont understand what they want me to do
[06:57] <bintut> nicholaspaul: ok
[06:58] <Eleaf> ooh
[06:58] <nicholaspaul> aaah
[06:58] <ownerx> chris, does iwconfig show any wireless extensions
[06:58] <Christopher> do i ignore that lil sample file stuff and jsut execute the next line of code in the procedure
[06:58] <Eleaf> wastrel, well 800 x 600 didn't change anything still trippy...
[06:58] <Eleaf> wastrel, I tried editing the xorg file..
[06:58] <Christopher> nope still like before showing no wireless extensions
[06:58] <wastrel> Eleaf:  looks like it's patch the kernel or borrow a computer :] 
[06:58] <Christopher> eth0 lo sit0
[06:59] <Christopher> and thats it
[06:59] <Eleaf> yea
[06:59] <ownerx> you ignore the /etc/network/interfaces step
[06:59] <Eleaf> wastrel, I'm downloading the 2.4 kernel and patch...
[06:59] <ownerx> but the rest has to be followed
[06:59] <Christopher> ok
[06:59] <Eleaf> I guess I'll have to compile
[06:59] <Eleaf> wastrel, I shouldn't have dependency trouble compiling a kernel... right?
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I *think* I have ati drivers back, now testing what gave me trouble before.
[06:59] <kentling> Ownerx: I don't know enough about Ubuntu/win32 interoperability, nor do I really understand spyware...
[07:00] <wastrel> Eleaf:  ugh it's been a while...  i dunno
[07:00] <kentling> But how is my IP address requesting the extreme-dm tracking site?
[07:00] <ownerx> kent, generally no executables are compatible between win and linux
[07:00] <wastrel> Eleaf:  i recommend a ubuntu-specific howto :] 
[07:00] <frogzoo> ownerx: what about wine?
[07:00] <Eleaf> lol
[07:00] <X-GueSt> how can I find a word in my system with the command "find " ?
[07:00] <ownerx> yes frogzoo, thats why i mentioned wine
[07:01] <frogzoo> ah
[07:01] <oklinux> is ubuntu better then debian ?
[07:01] <wastrel> X-GueSt:  find  / -name "*foo*"
[07:01] <frogzoo> qemu also can be very useful
[07:01] <wastrel> X-GueSt:  locate foo  might be better
[07:01] <X-GueSt> locate doesnt do the trick quite well
[07:01] <X-GueSt> :p
[07:02] <wastrel> X-GueSt:  sudo updatedb  ?
[07:02] <apt514> Synaptic - wine?
[07:02] <kentling> So are there linux executables that request spyware sites?
[07:02] <ownerx> no
[07:03] <kentling> Not possible, or not done?
[07:03] <wastrel> what about something like limewire?
[07:03] <ownerx> or maybe google toolbar
[07:03] <ownerx> or something
[07:03] <Madpilot> not done - hard to hide that when any one can review the source code :P
[07:03] <kentling> Sorry, I'm just trying to understand what's going on in my computer...
[07:03] <apt514> I'm using 5.10 live how do i d/l wine?
[07:03] <kentling> Not wanting my corporate environment to kick me off ubuntu....
[07:03] <X-GueSt> ahh
[07:04] <X-GueSt> damm
[07:04] <X-GueSt> this is so weird
[07:05] <Prophet> Can anyone help me with setting up XMMS, everytime I ./configure I get the error "configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[07:05] <Prophet> "
[07:05] <wastrel> kentling:  maybe something in /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[07:05] <wastrel> kentling:  the update applet dealy polls that...  or a ntp server?
[07:06] <wastrel> Prophet:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:06] <Akshay> hi all..
[07:06] <Akshay> I'm trying to run ltsp on a ubuntu breezy install - post installation and a number of glitches in tftp and dhcp i've finally been able to boot the client via the network interface
[07:06] <Akshay> however during boot at a late stage it gives me the error: dhcpcd failed...google hasn't helped..
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> Okay guys, I just did my fourth button-forced reboot.  I need some help getting my X/gdm happy again.
[07:07] <kentling> wastrel: nothing but wine and ubuntu in /etc/apt/sources.list... what's an ntp server?
[07:07] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  did you backup your xorg.cong ?  :] 
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: I did.  Restoring it doesn't seem to help.
[07:07] <wastrel> kentling:  network time protocol
[07:07] <Madpilot> kentling: Network Time Protocol -
[07:08] <thor> how do you delete fiels in a directory with console?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: I have a couple of different backups that I can try and see what happens, but it's a bit annoying to reboot between each so better wisdom would be appreciated.
[07:08] <dark`zzz> kentling, its a clock sync server, good when your bios battery goes down
[07:08] <Madpilot> thor: with "rm"
[07:08] <kentling> Why would I be checking the time in russia?
[07:08] <thor> so, sudo rm /directory/file.whatever?
[07:08] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  hmmm using fglrx?
[07:08] <kentling> Sorry, I don't see the point.  would I see ntp in my processes, with perhaps an extra malicious one?  I don't.
[07:09] <ownerx> ntp is not malicious
[07:09] <ownerx> it just sets the time
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: I'm actually not even sure at the moment.  I'm attempting to get rid of it and go back, and that's where my problem comes in.
[07:09] <Prophet> wastrel: Thanks Man I owe you, one more thing where do I find GLIB >= 1.2.2?
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Looks like xorg.conf still has fglrx in it.
[07:10] <thor> sweet thanks
[07:10] <wastrel> Prophet:  dunno that...
[07:10] <Prophet> okay
[07:10] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  try changing that to radeon or ati ?  which one are you using?
[07:10] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  also /etc/modules
[07:10] <ownerx> ati does not work on my card
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Which should I be using?  At this point I don't even know.
[07:10] <ownerx> x700
[07:10] <ownerx> 'radeon' works
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: What about /etc/modules?
[07:10] <ownerx> as does fglrx
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: Will keep in mind.
[07:11] <wastrel> kentling:  maybe you're using a service that does round-robin dns?  (hmm like freenode irc)
[07:11] <dark`zzz> kentling, you are thinking you are with a spyware? like.. a rootkit?
[07:11] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  loads your kernel modules... make sure your video module is in there...
[07:11] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  try modprobe radeon   or modprobe ati
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Okay.
[07:12] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  if they both work, pick one and change fglrx in your xorg.conf to it... :] 
[07:12] <kentling> darkzzz: that's the best theory I have to date, but everyone says its not possible...
[07:12] <ownerx> i say pick radeon tony
[07:12] <kentling> wastrel: what
[07:12] <kentling> 's round robin dns?
[07:12] <wastrel> kentling:  do you have the ip's ?  are they the same every time?  is the hostname familiar?
[07:12] <Madpilot> kentling: from what I've read, a lot of ntp servers redirect to other servers for load-balancing - so you might wind up talkign to a Russian ntp server
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, ownerx: modprobe radeon: FATAL: Error inserting radeon (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: With the other option, FATAL: Module ati not found.
[07:13] <ownerx> i get the same message tony
[07:13] <Eleaf> wastrel, how do I apply this patch?  it keeps getting kinda an error
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: But it's okay?
[07:14] <wastrel> kentling:  when you connect to irc.freenode.net it redirects you to a different server
[07:14] <ownerx> tony, i dont know, but radeon worked before
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: All right.
[07:14] <wastrel> kentling:  for example i connected to irc.freenode.net but the server i'm on is brown.freenode.net
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Nope, that xorg.conf's no good.
[07:14] <wastrel> kentling:  just brainstorming....
[07:15] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  are you in X when you try to load the radeon module?
[07:15] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  is the fglrx module running when you try to load radeon?
[07:15] <ownerx> wastrel good point
[07:15] <wastrel> Eleaf:  no idea...
[07:15] <Eleaf> hmm
[07:15] <Eleaf> k
[07:15] <Eleaf> goodnight!
[07:15] <dark`zzz> kentling, well, when a rootkit is installed on your pc, it gains total control and can even modify the ps command, the logs, etc, like a windows virus. i don't know much about them, but i am sure that it's *possible*.. per example, if you has installed an package from a non-official source
[07:15] <wastrel> gl :] 
[07:16] <Eleaf> lol
[07:16] <Eleaf> ;p
[07:16] <Eleaf> I have finals tomorrow..
[07:16] <Eleaf> lol
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: No to the first, not sure to the second; probably.
[07:16] <wastrel> borrow ;] 
[07:16] <Eleaf> lol
[07:16] <Eleaf> I'll try.
[07:17] <xerophyte> i wanna change the password when i boot with single usermode its keep asking for ctrl+d and password .. how can i change the root password
[07:17] <christopher_> ok whatever code i entered knocked my connection out
[07:17] <wastrel> ubotu tell xenophyte about root
[07:17] <christopher_> sorry about that owner
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Okay, removed the fglrx module, trying some more.
[07:17] <kentling> darkzzz: so how do I know if I have a rootkit?
[07:18] <ownerx> chkrootkit
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, ownerx: No errors with the modprobe step now.
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, ownerx: sigh, still weird X display.
[07:19] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  what's weird about it?
[07:19] <heliotrope> hey, does anyone have the time to help me with installing ubuntu? i've got a problem
[07:19] <kentling> ownerX: is that a terminal command?
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Bizarre hashed line look.  I can sort of see where things would be, but not really.  Vertical lines.
[07:19] <ownerx> sudo apt-get install chkrootkit
[07:19] <ownerx> and then sudo chkrootkit
[07:20] <christopher_> what does this message mean -
[07:20] <heliotrope> when i try to install when i boot the screen is all messed up
[07:20] <christopher_> rausb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:20] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  hmmm...  what about a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[07:20] <kentling> ownerx: thanks.
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: That's what broke it in the first place.
[07:20] <wastrel> heh
[07:20] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  are you rebooting in between tries?
[07:20] <heliotrope> no
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Sometimes.  When I'm forced to.
[07:21] <heliotrope> oh whoops
[07:21] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  have you rebooted with this radeon change?
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: No.
[07:21] <wastrel> i'd give it a shot... annoying eh? :] 
[07:21] <wastrel> heliotrope:  what seems to be the trouble?
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Okay, and yes.
[07:22] <heliotrope> wastrel: when i boot the screen is all stretched and distorted
[07:22] <heliotrope> wastrel: i cant make anything out
[07:22] -IMRMooW:#ubuntu- New game started, http://sre.servegame.com  : This is a webgame based on SOLAR REALMS ELITE, a famous BBS game back in 1992 (Earth2025/BRE fans are welcome)
[07:23] <wastrel> heliotrope:  ctrl-alt-f1 will take you to a console
[07:23] <wastrel> heliotrope:  try sudo dpkt-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:23] <wastrel> er
[07:23] <wastrel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:23] <xerophyte> could somebody tell me why does the recovery mode ask me for the root password with control-d to restart .. iw anna change the root password
[07:24] <heliotrope> wastrel: and this will fix the screen when im tring to install?
[07:24] <ownerx> xerophyte did you enable the root pass word and then disable it
[07:24] <wastrel> xerophyte:  can you boot in normal mode?
[07:24] <wastrel> heliotrope:  when you boot with the installer?
[07:24] <Madpilot> xerophyte: have you activated the root pw? it's not activated by default in Ubuntu - use sudo instead...
[07:24] <xerophyte> wastrel, yes i can boot in normal mode but i dont have the root password
[07:25] <heliotrope> wastrel: yeah, this is my first time installing
[07:25] <heliotrope> wastrel: im a complete noob
[07:25] <ownerx> if you enabled the root account and disabled it that breaks recovery console
[07:25] <xerophyte> ownerx, i changed before but i forgot
[07:25] <wastrel> heliotrope:  hmm i don't know about that sry.. i thought you finished the install...
[07:25] <ownerx> its in the sudo wiki somewhere
[07:25] <xerophyte> Madpilot, i could not login as root ???
[07:25] <frogzoo> !root
[07:25] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:26] <ownerx> sudo -i gives you a rootshell
[07:26] <heliotrope> wastrel: nah, my screen for the install part is just crazy :\, do you think it could be because i burned the cd myself?
[07:26] <wastrel> heliotrope:  i don't know much about the installers, i used it once and was done with it...
[07:26] <xerophyte> i don't even have normal user login to do sudo
[07:26] <xerophyte> ???
[07:26] <heliotrope> wastrel: oh ok, thanks for trying to help
[07:26] <wastrel> heliotrope:  i doubt it...
[07:26] <ownerx> if you changed your root password and forget it
[07:26] <wastrel> let me see if there's documentation about screen settings for the installer
[07:26] <ownerx> then you probably need to boot from a live cd or something
[07:27] <xerophyte> hmmmm
[07:27] <heliotrope> wastrel: thanks, id really appreciate that
[07:27] <JoeBlow> anyone know a good gui ftp program with implicit ssl, passive mode ect...
[07:27] <kentling> What does eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[7183] ) mean (from chrootkit)?
[07:27] <ownerx> i think thats harmless kent
[07:27] <ownerx> dhcp
[07:27] <JoeBlow> ok guys i need a ftp program
[07:28] <bicintator> HELP!! www.pastebin.com/555538
[07:28] <Prophet> Anyone here know where to find Glib 1.2.2
[07:28] <wastrel> JoeBlow:  i like gftp  for gui  or sftp for cli
[07:28] <ownerx> bicinator are you using dapper?
[07:28] <ownerx> or trying to upgrade to it
[07:28] <Madpilot> JoeBlow: Nautilus will do a lot of basic FTP stuff
[07:28] <christopher_> anyone not busy
[07:29] <kentling> I've got clamav from synaptic, but how do I run it? 'clamav' doesn't do anything...
[07:29] <bicintator> ownerx, yes
[07:29] <ownerx> that sources list is bad
[07:29] <JoeBlow> Madpilot, i need passive mode on, and implicit ssl on
[07:29] <ownerx> there is no backports for dapper
[07:29] <Mordof> wow! i never realized how much info was held in the /home directory
[07:29] <Prophet> lol
[07:29] <bicintator> damn
[07:29] <Mordof> all of my panel additions, all of my theme changes... wallpapers n such, all held in there
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: I think I might be in business...
[07:29] <Madpilot> Mordof: in dot-files and such?
[07:29] <Mordof> i formatted, and logged in, and its all the exact same!
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> I thought you weren't supposed to have to reboot Linux?
[07:30] <Mordof> Madpilot, yeah!
[07:30] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  ideally...
[07:30] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, my nvidia drivers royally screwed things, though im pretty sure that was my fault
[07:30] <christopher_> owner: you busy?
[07:30] <ownerx> tony you could have just restarted X
[07:30] <Madpilot> Mordof: yeah, I had to do a complete reinstall months ago - bad hardware - and setting stuff back up again was incredibly easy
[07:30] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  it's getting more complicated - i bet you could have avoided it, but you start getting into dimishing returns
[07:31] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  it's just easier to reboot unless you really really can't ;] 
[07:31] <Mordof> Madpilot, half of my stuff is already setup :D
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: I did.
[07:31] <JoeBlow> wastrel, gftp worked great, thanks
[07:31] <kentling> bye.
[07:31] <wastrel> np
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: I suppose.
[07:32] <heliotrope> if anyone knows anything about installation problems id like some help, my screen messes up when i boot the installer
[07:32] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  i bet there were other video modules that needed unloading/reloading... just didn't know which ones to mess with
[07:32] <Madpilot> Mordof: one thing - if you've done a complete reinstall, any applications you've added will need to be reinstalled - but their settings will be OK
[07:33] <Mordof> Madpilot, settings will be ok? ah damn! does that mean my vid card settings will still be there?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Okay, I'll remember that sort of thing then.
[07:33] <slavik> anybody have a problem with the wine repo server?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> By the way, have I mentioned lately how much I'm looking forward to Dapper?
[07:34] <Mordof> when will dapper be finished and stable?
[07:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[07:34] <Madpilot> Mordof: not sure about system stuff like that, TBH...
[07:34] <Prophet> oh wait, I might have it
[07:34] <Mordof> Madpilot, i see
[07:35] <EnsignRedshirt> Do ogle, vlc, totem, etc. all use libdvdcss in basically the same way? I'm wondering why totem sometimes gives me an error about being able to decrypt a DVD, but then ogle or vlc works.
[07:36] <EnsignRedshirt> s/being able/not being able/
[07:36] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, because of a bug in totem or gstreamer :)
[07:36] <Mordof> ok, how do i tell what the status of my video card is?
[07:36] <wastrel> Mordof:  what type of status?
[07:36] <Mordof> wastrel, what drivers are installed
[07:36] <Mordof> what ubuntu thinks it is
[07:36] <ownerx> ensign there is a libdvdcss2
[07:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas: Ah, that could be it.  For the movie I just tried, totem gave me an error window, and ogle crashed, but vlc played it.
[07:38] <Mordof> hmmm... i should make a script that i could run directly out of installing ubuntu to get all my apps that i want and to install all the stuff i need....
[07:38] <ghoulee> ahoy, I need some help getting my keyboard layout fixed.  I have an IBM thinkpad with the UK keyboard but it doesn't match the layout in the gnome-keyboard-properties
[07:38] <ghoulee> mine has the # key next to the Enter key
[07:38] <Mordof> elkbuntu, hey
[07:38] <wastrel> Mordof:  hmm...  probably best to have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:39] <crimsun> ghoulee: in System> Preferences> Keyboard> Layouts, is "United Kingdom" at the top and checked for default?
[07:39] <wastrel> Mordof:  maybe  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:39] <EnsignRedshirt> ownerx: Just checked... that's what I have installed, libdvdcss2.
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> Mordof: 20 April for Dapper release, btw.
[07:39] <Mordof> wastrel, k
[07:40] <Mordof> tonyyarusso, ooo, nice
[07:40] <shekhar> help! my sound has died in breezy!
[07:40] <crimsun> shekhar: please provide [much]  more info
[07:40] <crimsun> shekhar: e.g., lspci -nv ; lspci -v ; cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[07:40] <christopher_> anyone know how i can make sure that i installed wifi and ndiswrapper installed correctly
[07:40] <shekhar> crimsun:  well i cannot hear anything except the system beep, no audible sound in any application
[07:41] <crimsun> shekhar: pastebin those
[07:41] <ghoulee> crimsun: yep, but I get \ instead of # when I hit the key next to the Enter key (which is labled # and not \ )
[07:41] <Mordof> how would i go about making a script file that will apt-get install things that i want them to and just do it all automatically?
[07:41] <Mordof> like a batch file in windows
[07:42] <crimsun> ghoulee: did you select the correct Keyboard model?
[07:42] <winarto> hi all..
[07:42] <Madpilot> Mordof: you could just figure everything out, and issue one massive apt-get command
[07:42] <crimsun> ghoulee: mine's set to "IBM ThinkPad 560Z/600/600E/A22E"
[07:42] <ghoulee> there are only two, the int'l and the dvorak.  and mine is neither of those
[07:42] <Mordof> Madpilot, hehe
[07:42] <wastrel> Mordof:  you can just put the commands in a file and run the file
[07:42] <crimsun> ghoulee: no, look above the Layout box
[07:42] <winarto> i need your help.. my office want to make ubuntu mirror, howto use rsync for this?
[07:43] <Mordof> wastrel, yeah but it sometimes asks if i want to continue [y|n] , how do i hook that?
[07:43] <ghoulee> crimsun: setting that also gives \ instead of #
[07:43] <wastrel> Mordof:  ah good point, i imagine there's a command line switch for apt that avoids that
[07:43] <winarto> we want to build our own repository of Ubuntu, how to do that?
[07:43] <ghoulee> I have a T43p, not an A22 or any of those older models
[07:44] <crimsun> ghoulee: start xev in a Terminal, and tell me the keycode you get when depressing #
[07:44] <wastrel> winarto:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/mirror?highlight=%28mirror%29
[07:44] <crimsun> shekhar: under no circumstances should you flood me in privmsg; my client auto-ignores that.
[07:44] <crimsun> !tell shekhar about pastebin
[07:45] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Does anyone know of a retailer who sells OS-free PCs for cheap
[07:45] <shekhar> crimsun:  sorry
[07:45] <thor> anyone have ideas for getting java working in firefox?
[07:45] <Mordof> Nunquam_Fidelis, custom build your computer
[07:45] <Mordof> Nunquam_Fidelis, becom a reseller :P
[07:45] <ghoulee> keycode 51 (backslash)
[07:45] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Mordof: Some times it's actually cheaper to buy a PC than build from scratch :-P
[07:46] <Mordof> Nunquam_Fidelis, alot of the times it is, yes i agree with that. but you dont always get the quality parts in it that you would custom building either
[07:46] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis> Mordof: Some times it's actually cheaper to buy a PC than build from scratch :-P <-- true but when it goes wrong it ain't so cheap to repair
[07:46] <Mordof> virogenesis, when you buy PC's like that, they have warrenty
[07:47] <virogenesis> yeah true Mordof  but try dealing with them when they have your money
[07:47] <crimsun> ghoulee: and XLookupString and XmbLookupString return values?
[07:47] <thor> i need help with installing java plugin in firefox
[07:47] <wastrel> thor:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[07:47] <Mordof> virogenesis, thats why you dont deal with some companies even if they have good prices, you have to find places that will help you out
[07:47] <thor> i tried the guides
[07:48] <virogenesis> thats why i say build your own or get a local computer shop to
[07:48] <Madpilot> !java
[07:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:48] <Mordof> virogenesis, which is exactly why i pay a guy more money to get PC's and parts from him then i would even at some stores that sell for higher prices.. but the difference is he will go out of his way to help me when i have a problem
[07:48] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Oh, also, does anyone know if Linux can boot from the Intel Macs?
[07:48] <Mordof> ew.. intel macs
[07:48] <thor> i have java installed, the symlink isnt working
[07:48] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Oh, come on :-P
[07:49] <wastrel> thor:  what's the symlink ?
[07:49] <Mordof> macs were good before intel got involved, at least they were faster
[07:49] <ghoulee> crimsun:
[07:49] <ghoulee> XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5c) "\"
[07:49] <ghoulee> XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5c) "\"
[07:49] <Nunquam_Fidelis> The notebooks weren't.
[07:49] <Mordof> intel is just trying to save its ass from going under
[07:49] <nemik> hello. i'm having problems sharing files between 2 ubuntu boxes. both have samba, my windows box sees the files fine, but the other ubuntu one tells me it can't display the contents in 'mshome' what is the problem?
[07:49] <virogenesis> intel macs aren't bad not as good as ppc but they have quality
[07:49] <thor> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[07:49] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Intel really does seem to have the best chips in the notebook marke, Mordof.
[07:49] <Mordof> all the stores in my area no longer support intel, not even the big ones, its alll AMD
[07:49] <Sonobana> thor: where did you symlink it and with what command?
[07:49] <wastrel> are intel macs commercially available?
[07:50] <Mordof> Nunquam_Fidelis, true, but i dont buy notebooks so im not concerned with that
[07:50] <Seveas> Mordof, actually, the intel mac is faster than the IBM one, but this is horribly offtopic so please take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this a support channel
[07:50] <Mordof> Nunquam_Fidelis, however i dont dismiss that fact, i realize they have good notebooks. however, i will still buy an amd even in a notebook
[07:50] <Prophet> when I make install at the end I get make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[07:50] <Prophet>  how do I fix this?
[07:50] <Seveas> Prophet, with a hammer
[07:50] <Mordof> Seveas, k
[07:50] <Seveas> Prophet, put the complete output on the pastebin
[07:51] <thor> i did this, ln -s /usr/lib/jre1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[07:51] <Prophet> Seveas: How?
[07:51] <thor> i did that in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:51] <Nunquam_Fidelis> So, it's unknown if any Linux distro boots on Intel macs?
[07:51] <Seveas> !tell Prophet about pastebin
[07:51] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis, intel macs are being worked on
[07:51] <Seveas> Nunquam_Fidelis, search slashdot, someon over there must have tried it already...
[07:52] <nemik> hello. i'm having problems sharing files between 2 ubuntu boxes. both have samba, my windows box sees the files fine, but the other ubuntu one tells me it can't display the contents in 'mshome' what is the problem?
[07:52] <Prophet> Seveas: so copy everything terminal was outputting?
[07:52] <thor> Sonobana: i did this, ln -s /usr/lib/jre1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so and i put it in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:52] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  http://news.com.com/2061-10791_3-6030005.html
[07:52] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Ty.
[07:52] <acehunky> hello, can any one point me to relevant url for the Ubuntu Server Edition development ??
[07:52] <Seveas> Prophet, yep
[07:52] <wastrel> thor:  try renaming the link without the _oji
[07:53] <acehunky> ~ubuntu server edition
[07:53] <Seveas> Prophet, and hope that someone else can help you - I have to run
[07:53] <Sonobana> thor: try this:  ln -s /usr/lib/jre1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:53] <thor> what's command for rename?
[07:53] <shekhar> crimsun:  i did pastebin
[07:53] <Sonobana> mv
[07:53] <crimsun> shekhar: sec, I'm busy
[07:53] <Seveas> thor, mv or rename (mv is probaby what you're looking for)
[07:53] <joseph> hello
[07:53] <thor> ok
[07:53] <Prophet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8692
[07:53] <wastrel> thor:  the one i've got is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[07:53] <Sonobana> thor: and remember to restart firefox after symlinking
[07:54] <thor> yea i do
[07:54] <Prophet> the output
[07:54] <ghoulee> it's jolly good of the Brits to keep a stiff upper lip and not complain about the incorrect keyboard layouts they have to deal with when using Ubuntu
[07:54] <Nunquam_Fidelis> I haven't built a PC since 2002. I'm not even sure which processor to get o_o
[07:54] <ghoulee> or maybe they just all use Windows...
[07:54] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Would getting a 64 bit be a huge advantage over 32?
[07:54] <wastrel> heh the brits should submit a bug report maybe ;] 
[07:54] <wastrel> not that i know how to do that...
[07:54] <elkbuntu> Nunquam_Fidelis, probably not just yet
[07:54] <acehunky> haloooo im just a nut but the one who'd help me with this one will get all the good luck in the world!!!!
[07:54] <Prophet> wastrel: Can you help?
[07:54] <thor> Sonobana: that's the command i used
[07:55] <Mordof> Nunquam_Fidelis, not a whole lot supports 64 bit
[07:55] <Madpilot> ghoulee: the main Ubuntu team is actually based in London :P
[07:55] <acehunky> anyone knows about ubuntu server edition? i need to get it
[07:55] <crimsun> ghoulee: that's odd, mine works
[07:55] <wastrel> Prophet:  with compiling xmms?  i just used the one in apt
[07:55] <Nunquam_Fidelis> There's a 64 bit version of Ubuntu though, aye?
[07:55] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  socket 939 motherboard.... AMD 64 venice core
[07:55] <thor> Sonobana: ill try taking the _oji out
[07:55] <crimsun> ghoulee: have you checked for a bug report on a broken UK keymap in Breezy?
[07:55] <joseph> I'm trying to donate cpu time to Stanford, How do I run .exe file?
[07:55] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  not all things work on it yet Nunquam_Fidelis
[07:55] <elkbuntu> Nunquam_Fidelis, yes there is, but i havent personally heard good reports of it. 64 bit is still in infancy
[07:56] <acehunky> com'on guys! ubuntu server edition anyone?
[07:56] <Nunquam_Fidelis> hmph
[07:56] <Prophet> wastrel: apt?
[07:56] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Does there _need_ to be a "server" edition? o_o
[07:56] <Sp4rKy> hi
[07:56] <wastrel> Prophet:  apt-get install xmms  ?
[07:56] <nemik> what would you guys use for 2 ubuntu machines to share files/folders over a local network?
[07:56] <Prophet> kk
[07:56] <Sonobana> joseph: exes are windows binaries
[07:56] <Sp4rKy> i've just reinstall usplash but it doesn't work :/
[07:56] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Isn't that an option during the install?
[07:56] <EnsignRedshirt> acehunky: Do you have a questions about it?  Or are you just trying to find it?
[07:56] <Sonobana> you can try dosbox or wine
[07:56] <acehunky> i heard that there's development going on for a sercer edition :)
[07:56] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis, ubuntu 64 doesn't have java or flash
[07:57] <Madpilot> nemik: sftp thru Nautilus works nicely
[07:57] <virogenesis> well it does but not in 64 bit mode
[07:57] <wastrel> nemik:  i usually scp them :] 
[07:57] <Sp4rKy> what must i do ?
[07:57] <thor> wastrel: hwo would i rename the file with mv?
[07:57] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Eck. Well, I will not be using it as my primary machine...
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Hm, the XFCE default web browser shortcut icon thinger is to 'mozilla' instead of 'firefox' and doesn't work.
[07:57] <wastrel> thor:  mv source dest    for example  mv foo bar  changes foo to bar
[07:57] <elkbuntu> Nunquam_Fidelis, it's up to you, but dont say you havent been warned
[07:57] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  you can run a 32bit os on a 64bit machine
[07:57] <Prophet> wastrel: when I try that all I get is, E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:57] <Prophet> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:57] <Sonobana> thor: change it?
[07:57] <Nunquam_Fidelis> I knew that.
[07:58] <thor> ok lemme try
[07:58] <thor> not yet
[07:58] <wastrel> Prophet:  sudo apt-get etc etc...
[07:58] <Prophet> kk
[07:58] <crimsun> shekhar: url, please?
[07:58] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  best off getting a 64bit as they support 4GB of ram
[07:58] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Isn't that sort of... unnecessary?
[07:58] <Prophet> wastrel: your a savoir
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> Who has 4GB of RAM?
[07:58] <shekhar> crimsun:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8691
[07:58] <nemik> Madpilot and wastrel: i have samba on both, i would like that to work but the boxes say they can't display folder contents. but windows sees them fine...
[07:59] <crimsun> shekhar: ok, looking
[07:59] <virogenesis> no one yet but for the future its ok
[07:59] <Nunquam_Fidelis> I really don't need 4 GB of RAM.
[07:59] <Prophet> tonyyarusso: Video editors?
[07:59] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, Longhorn is going to need it, apparantly ;)
[07:59] <shekhar> crimsun:  thanks :)
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> Prophet: Ah, perhaps.
[07:59] <wastrel> Prophet:  apt has a lot of software :]   don't compile until you check apt first
[07:59] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, so you'll be hearing more about 4gb ram ;)
[07:59] <wastrel> Prophet:  also look at synaptic  - GUI for apt
[07:59] <acehunky> Nunquam_Fidelis: well, I had a one on one meeting with Mark on the Ubuntu Plans for Server edition release .. which is why i am hunting for the development edition of the same..
[07:59] <virogenesis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  its called looking ahead no need to use old hardware to build a new machine
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: You mean that-which-is-totally-unnecessary-for-me-to-blow-good-money-on-now-that-I've-seen-the-light-of-Linux of course, right? ;)
[08:00] <thor> Sonobana: yeah it didnt work
[08:00] <Prophet> yah wastrel: when I sudo ect.. all I get is Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:00] <Prophet> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:00] <Prophet> is only available from another source
[08:00] <virogenesis> acehunky, the guys in ubuntu-server might know
[08:00] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Imagine in twenty years, a terabyte of RAM being standard setup. v_v
[08:00] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, no. you asked who needs 4gb ram... longhorn users will ;) and of course imagine the speeeeeed
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: However, I have seen the sysreqs of Longhorn/Vista/whatever we'll call it, and frankly I think it's f*&%ing ridiculous.
[08:01] <nemik> Madpilot and wastrel: so to sftp with nautilus, what would i use as an ftp on the machine whose files i want? how can i let them be shared over sftp?
[08:01] <wastrel> Prophet:  hmm...  you may need to enable universe....  look at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Yes, the speed, of my wallet emptying to buy that much RAM.
[08:01] <acehunky> Nunquam_Fidelis: thanks, I was hunting for the right channel..
[08:01] <Madpilot> !tell wastrel about ubuntuguide
[08:01] <virogenesis> 4gb of ram would get rid of the need for a swap
[08:01] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, i know. when's it supposely due out? 3rd quarter? i'm yet to see a 4ghz processor on the market
[08:01] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Everything I've heard for Windows, there'a  trehshold. After 1 GB, Windows fails to utilize it.
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> virogenesis: I don't use my swap as it is, although I do have it.
[08:01] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, well, local market
[08:02] <Madpilot> nemik: when you set up sftp in Nautilus, the remote files are mounted in Naut. just like your local partitions
[08:02] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, it's going to flop unless they reassess reality
[08:02] <ownerx> linux kernel can be compiled to support more than 4gb
[08:02] <thor> Sonobana: when iclick properties on the symlink it says link broken
[08:02] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Linux likes to use all the RAM it can, so may be a dif. story.
[08:02] <thor> so there's a deeper problem
[08:02] <wastrel> nemik:  i don't know samba.  with sftp you need to log in to the account, it's not really for sharing files like windows sharing, afaik
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Whenever the heck they feel like it.  Last I heard was only "expected before the end of the year", but see IE7 for M$ timetables.
[08:02] <nemik> Madpilot: ok, but how do i get those remote files to be shared? on the 'remote' machine what should i do?
[08:03] <virogenesis> good thing about vista is it will push hardware into another level
[08:03] <wastrel> sigh.  Prophet it looks like ubuntuguide is deprecated.  try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XMMS?highlight=%28xmms%29
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Especially if we can do something about it it will!  (I blog about Ubuntu occasionally, who else does?  Planning to chronicle an entire Dapper install to use experience.)
[08:03] <ownerx> dapper is the vista killer
[08:03] <Madpilot> nemik: you don't have to do anything - get the remote's IP and it's entire file tree will be available
[08:03] <ownerx> j/k
[08:03] <virogenesis> i disagree ownerx  the version after dapper will rock
[08:04] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, i dont see them making the best of the opportunity, they're getting way ahead of themselves if they expect people to be able to afford both a new OS and whizz bang hardware to run it on
[08:04] <ownerx> thats what they always say viro :)
[08:04] <virogenesis> they have made some mistakes with dapper
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> virogenesis: Regular version or the second long-term you mean?
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> virogenesis: Such as?
[08:04] <nemik> Madpilot: so why sftp then? i'll have to log in as a user on that machine?
[08:04] <virogenesis> dapper +1... the next release after dapper will be the one to look out for
[08:04] <Sonobana> n -s /usr/lib/<javaversio>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: That's what I said.  Upgrading OS: $2000 vs. 'apt-get dist-upgrade'  A toughie!
[08:05] <virogenesis> the update thingy for dapper is horrid
[08:05] <Madpilot> nemik: the sftp logs you in, you do need an account on the remote machine
[08:05] <Nunquam_Fidelis> update thingy?
[08:05] <wastrel> nemik:  sorry was just explaining what i do- it is a different thing than sharing... sry i don't know samba at all
[08:05] <nemik> wastrel, no problem thanks anyway though
[08:05] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, hehe. i wasnt arguing with that, but simply stating that i dont think we're going to need to worry much about LH because of it
[08:05] <virogenesis> you know the thing that tells you to update your system
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> virogenesis: How is it awful?
[08:05] <Madpilot> virogenesis: you mean the box with the ugly diagonal bit? They're dropping the ugly box...
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: I agree.
[08:05] <virogenesis> its nasty looking
[08:06] <virogenesis> yes Madpilot
[08:06] <virogenesis> ahh ok
[08:06] <Sonobana> damn paste! anyway ln -s /usr/lib/<javaversionn>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so <- that did the trick for me
[08:06] <nemik> Madpilot: so for the account on the remote box, i don't need an FTP account, can i log in as the same user that is already logged into it? this is between 2 ubuntu boxes
[08:07] <wastrel> nemik:  yes
[08:07] <Prophet> wastrel: do you know of any programs (besides xmms) that will listen to internet audio streams?
[08:08] <ownerx> amarok
[08:08] <Madpilot> Prophet: Rythymbox
[08:08] <ownerx> have you looked at streamtuner prophet
[08:08] <joseph> Sonobana, http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html gave me .exe for linux
[08:08] <ownerx> not an actual player
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> Ohp, idea: I would like to collect data in the realm of "What Windows users want / Objections to switching to Linux that need to be addressed".  I have seen one person with wiki pages on this.  Is there some centralized group I should collaborate with, or just go off and do some stuff?
[08:08] <crimsun> shekhar: your pastebin post is incomplete (lists only lspci -nv output, and I need all of lspci -nv; lspci -v; cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer)
 wastrel: do you know of any programs (besides xmms) that will listen to internet audio streams? <--- BMPx but its being written as we speak
[08:08] <ownerx> joseph even though its named an exe
[08:08] <ownerx> its run like this ./file.exe
[08:08] <wastrel> joseph:  it may be a zip file
[08:09] <joseph> i see,
[08:09] <ownerx> the folding linux is named exe but its really a linux binary
[08:09] <nemik> Madpilot and wastrel: thanks for both your help. i just enabled ssh on the other one and ssh'd into it with nautilus. says sftp. works great! thank you guys!
[08:09] <wastrel> some self-extracting zips have .exe...
[08:09] <wastrel> ah it's a shell script or something
[08:09] <wastrel> ah nvm linux binary :] 
[08:09] <joseph> how do I unzip this?
[08:09] <ownerx> they are silly to name it an exe file
[08:09] <Prophet> ownerx: rythmbox won't work and I just did an apt-get on streamtuner and it says something about dependacies and how it isn't going to install
[08:10] <wastrel> nemik:  heh np :]   <3 ssh
[08:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Prophet: realplayer
[08:10] <joseph> by the way, happy valentines day every one!
[08:11] <shekhar> crimsun:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8693
[08:11] <nemik> wastrel: hmmm doesn't wanna play mp3's though, i need to transfer them over first....oh well
[08:11] <Madpilot> nemik: you've got mp3 support enabled?
[08:11] <nemik> Madpilot: yes i do
[08:12] <Madpilot> just checking
[08:12] <UFO> wow... the xgl system looks great
[08:12] <wastrel> hmm.... for that i'd setup shoutcast on the remote system :] 
[08:12] <ownerx> everyones talking about xgl
[08:12] <lora_> hello, why is it that I need to be a root user in order to run wine?
[08:12] <wastrel> but i don't listen to music much
[08:13] <virogenesis> UFO,  what guide did you use?
[08:13] <UFO> ownerx, have you tryed the xgl server?
[08:13] <lora_> when i try to run wine as a normal user, i always got this error message: Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[08:13] <lora_> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[08:13] <ownerx> no ufo, im not using dapper
[08:13] <nemik> Madpilot and wastrel: thank you both immensly for the help. good night guys!
[08:13] <crimsun> shekhar: unmute PCM, and turn up its level
[08:14] <UFO> it needs only the xserver7 and proper dirivers
[08:14] <xerophyte> How can i find what version if Ubuntu i am running
[08:15] <wastrel> i know there's a command for that
[08:15] <wastrel> some lsb thing i think...
[08:15] <ghoulee> crimsun: so, I have to run setxkbmap for my keyboard layout to work.  even after restarting my system.  that seems funky
[08:15] <shekhar> crimsun:  how do i do that?
[08:15] <shekhar> alsamixeR?
[08:15] <wastrel> alsamixer
[08:16] <xerophyte> ???
[08:16] <lora_> hello
[08:16] <lora_> how to run wine as a normal user?
[08:17] <crimsun> ghoulee: have you filed a bug?
[08:17] <shekhar> crimsun:  alsamixer says Item: PCM [off]  -- how do i turn it on?
[08:17] <crimsun> shekhar: amixer or alsamixer will suffice, but there are other mixers
[08:17] <lora_> I need always to be a root user in order to execute a windows program under wine, why ?
[08:17] <crimsun> shekhar: press 'm'
[08:17] <shekhar> crimsun:  thanks
[08:17] <shekhar> crimsun:  how did this go off?
[08:17] <EnsignRedshirt> xerophyte: lsb_release -a
[08:18] <crimsun> shekhar: either you muted it accidentally, or some program you used muted it
[08:18] <wastrel> thx EnsignRedshirt :]   i've only seen that once & couldn't remember the command
[08:18] <shekhar> crimsun:  is there any way to get skype to peacefully coexist with other audio devices?
[08:19] <wastrel> lora_:  i'm guessing your wine C drive is owned by root
[08:19] <crimsun> shekhar: if you have multiple sound cards, sure
[08:19] <shekhar> crimsun:  :(
[08:19] <furntree> i have a question
[08:19] <EnsignRedshirt> wastrel: I'd never seen it :)  But lsb<tab> showed lsb_release, and man lsb_release shows the options.
[08:20] <wastrel> EnsignRedshirt:  here i was scrolling thru apropos version  :] 
[08:20] <ghoulee> crimsun: Im sleepy, Ill file one tomorrow I promise ;-)
[08:20] <xerophyte> EnsignRedshirt, is it Ubuntu specific command ???
[08:20] <furntree> i was installing VLC and i got an error...about compiling or somthing o i was in #Linux and they said to come here
[08:21] <lora_> wastre: what is the workaround for it?
[08:21] <EnsignRedshirt> xerophyte: I don't know, but I would guess not.
[08:21] <Sonobana> isnt there deb-package for vlc?
[08:21] <xerophyte> EnsignRedshirt, i have centos i could not find it and yum also could not find it
[08:21] <wastrel> lora_:  change the permissions on the C drive directory, or add yourself to the wine group if that is setup
[08:21] <furntree> it cant downloadit
[08:21] <Madpilot> !info vlc
[08:21] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[08:21] <lora_> ok
[08:21] <lora_> thanks so much
[08:21] <wastrel> hope it works
[08:22] <heliotrope> can anyone help me, whenever i boot with the ubuntu installation cd the screen gets so distorted i cant make out what it's saying
[08:22] <wastrel> i don't use wine :] 
[08:22] <Madpilot> furntree: there's a Ubuntu repo version of vlc - were you installing that?
[08:22] <lora_> i installed wine in ubuntu out of RPM using alien
[08:22] <EnsignRedshirt> xerophyte: I just tried it on a debian machince, and it didn't work there, either, so I guess it isn't standard.
[08:22] <wastrel> heliotrope:  sry i couldn't find info on that for you
[08:22] <heliotrope> wastre: thanks for trying
[08:22] <heliotrope> watrel*
[08:22] <heliotrope> i just cant spell tonight
[08:22] <wastrel> xerophyte:  lsb = linux standard base , so i'm guessing LSB compliant distros would have it...
[08:23] <Madpilot> furntree: enable the Universe repo, and then isntall vlc thru Synaptic
[08:23] <EnsignRedshirt> wastrel: I was thinking the same thing... :)
[08:23] <furntree> Madpilot can i pm you about it?
[08:23] <joseph> how do I run *-linux-gnu.sh?
[08:23] <Madpilot> furntree: if you want - but does the repository version work?
[08:23] <n00b> how do i format a floppy disk in linux?
[08:24] <heliotrope> can anyone help me, whenever i boot with the ubuntu installation cd the screen gets so distorted i cant make out what it's saying
[08:24] <Sp4rKy> why usplash doesn't run when i start my computer ?
[08:26] <Sp4rKy> heliotrope, what's your screen and resolution ?
[08:26] <sander> hmm guys... looking for some help.. me totally new to linux...
[08:26] <Madpilot> !ask
[08:27] <sander> well... first things i need ...
[08:27] <sander> macromedia and java players...
[08:27] <sander> i dont know even which one to download
[08:27] <frogzoo> !restricted
[08:27] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:27] <Madpilot> sander: this page has info on both flash & java: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:28] <Sp4rKy> sander, i think easy ubuntu help you to install it easily
[08:28] <sander> il try that site out... brb
[08:29] <junes> does anyone know of a free 3d cad program?
[08:29] <varsendagger> hey i am trying to install varicad, has anyone been sucessful?
[08:29] <theball> sander: this helps alot---- http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[08:30] <sander> il try that out too... thanks
[08:32] <theball> hsa anyone been succesful in setting up nvidia drivers for dapper?
[08:32] <w32> hi
[08:32] <Sonobana> theball: yeah
[08:32] <theball> w32: hi
[08:33] <w32> hey
[08:33] <w32> long night tonite
[08:33] <w32> just quit working
[08:33] <theball> Sonobana, can you tell me how you made it work
[08:33] <w32> always holidays something friggin crashes
[08:33] <theball> i canot get gl working
[08:34] <theball> w32: man do i know
[08:34] <w32> i rang in the new year recovering a dead dec as/200
[08:34] <Sonobana> theball: what glxinfo|grep direct says?
[08:35] <w32> christmas same shit
[08:35] <theball> Sonobana: working on it
[08:35] <w32> not really complaining but wife hates it
[08:36] <sander> hmm... ok i donwloaded java... Make the downloaded file executable. At the command line, change to the directory where you downloaded the file, and type i got to change the file name_
[08:36] <w32> wife hates it= life will be miserable when she chooses
[08:36] <sander> how do i make the file executable?
[08:36] <w32> anyway.....
[08:36] <defrysk> chmod +x
[08:36] <theball> Sonobana: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:36] <Sonobana> sander: chmod +x file
[08:36] <DUMAiSO> theball, are you trying to install ati drivers?
[08:36] <sander> oh... ok...
[08:37] <w32> has anyone got any resources/tutorials for setting up asterisk on ubuntu
[08:37] <heliotrope> can anyone help me, whenever i boot with the ubuntu installation cd the screen gets so distorted i cant make out what it's saying
[08:37] <mItNitOx> j #debian-es
[08:37] <junes> if u right click then properties that has a GUI for making it executable
[08:37] <w32> I don't like AAH cause i can't software raid the drives easily
[08:37] <theball> Sonobana: nope i tried the nvidia drivers for my fx5600 but no go. it was fine in breezy
[08:38] <w32> heliotrope: try a diffeent video card perhaps
[08:38] <w32> I doubt its the monitor
[08:39] <heliotrope> w32: im using windows on it right now and everything is fine
[08:39] <heliotrope> w32: as soon as the cd boots it goes bad
[08:39] <junes> is it a laptop?
[08:39] <w32> well that's because its windows not linux
[08:39] <heliotrope> yeah it is
[08:39] <theball> heliotrope: when boot appears on screen after start up choose options and set resolution to 800x600
[08:39] <w32> I don't mean the video card is bad
[08:39] <heliotrope> ohh
[08:40] <w32> and yeah what the ball said
[08:40] <heliotrope> thanks ball
[08:40] <joseph> Hi anybody know where console is?
[08:40] <w32> *theball
[08:40] <heliotrope> and everyone for helping
[08:40] <theball> by default often it pushed monitor past its limit
[08:40] <w32> sure np
[08:40] <theball> w32: yeah?
[08:40] <w32> the ball: i was correcting a typo
[08:40] <varsendagger> hey i have a paste comming
[08:41] <theball> oh
[08:41] <furntree> Madpilot
[08:41] <furntree> thanks for that
[08:41] <furntree> its working now
[08:41] <w32> theball: have any experience w/ asterisk ?
[08:41] <theball> nope
[08:41] <w32> damn
[08:42] <Sonobana> joseph: using gnome?
[08:42] <w32> the asterisk channel varies in quality and chatter
[08:42] <Sonobana> gnome-terminal for example is terminal
[08:42] <theball> Sonobana: any ideas how to get gl support with nvidia cards in dapper?
[08:42] <w32> I can install it with synaptic but config is a differnt game
[08:42] <Sonobana> theball: did it work in breezy?
[08:43] <theball> Sonobana: perfectly
[08:43] <theball> upgraded to dapper and just basic video for the card. i cant seem to get nvidia drivers to load and work
[08:43] <Sonobana> is nvidia-glx installed
[08:43] <w32> what is dapper ?
[08:44] <theball> w32:  astrek as in alternate channels?
[08:44] <w32> yeah
[08:44] <Sp4rKy> please does anyone know how to make usplash works ?
[08:44] <defrysk> Sonobana, nvidia-xconfig enalble
[08:44] <w32> #asterisk
[08:44] <defrysk> enable*
[08:44] <theball> w32: been on a few channels why?
[08:44] <theball> Sonobana: yes
[08:44] <wastrel> la la
[08:44] <theball> installed
[08:45] <defrysk> theball, sundo nvidia-xconfig enable
[08:45] <w32> theball: what do you mean ?
[08:45] <defrysk> sudo*
[08:45] <defrysk> geez darn typo's
[08:45] <wastrel> dapper is the next release of ubuntu
[08:45] <w32> not stable yet ?
[08:46] <Sonobana> w32: kind of
[08:46] <w32> dapper i mean
[08:46] <theball> defrysk i get an error, checking
[08:46] <defrysk> theball, nvidia-config enable has changed to nvidia-xconfig enable in dapper
[08:46] <junes> dapper is coming out on 4/20 right?
[08:46] <w32> I'm still using breezy & hoary
[08:46] <Sonobana> dapper is development branch
[08:46] <w32> you can d/l dapper now ?
[08:47] <theball> defrysk when i type in what you gave me it pukes wrong syntax
[08:47] <Sonobana> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93157
[08:47] <wastrel> dapper will be released in april
[08:47] <theball> defrysk if i leave out enable it backs up things and makes new config
[08:47] <w32> hey wastrel
[08:47] <Sonobana> w32: change words breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <junes> is there a changelog anywhere yet?
[08:48] <wastrel> hi
[08:48] <Sp4rKy> pleaseee
[08:48] <Sonobana> w32: and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <theball> w32: i am on a few #channels now and then to answer a previous ?
[08:48] <Sonobana> *sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <defrysk> theball, see if it works now
[08:48] <defrysk> time to go
[08:48] <eflickne> anyone help me?
[08:49] <defrysk> later folks
[08:49] <theball> do i need to restart x
[08:49] <Sonobana> theball: yeah
[08:49] <defrysk> theball, yup
[08:49] <Sonobana> defrysk: just ask the question ;)
[08:49] <theball> thanks defrysk
[08:49] <w32> sonobana i will try it out no worries about compatibilty my stuff is LEGACY
[08:49] <theball> Sonobana: trying, its on my other pc
[08:49] <eflickne> i just installed ubuntu and I have no video after the initial install
[08:49] <Sonobana> ok
[08:50] <Sonobana> what command startx returns
[08:50] <Sonobana> try find errors
[08:51] <eflickne> should i reboot or what?
[08:51] <Sonobana> no reboot
[08:51] <theball> Sonobana: now when i pipe glxinfo i get direct render =yes
[08:51] <w32> theball: what i was infering 'bout #asterisk while its nice that there are no flooderbots depeding on when you go you'll get nothing but useless chatter bout nuthin related to asterisk
[08:51] <Sonobana> theball: its working now
[08:52] <w32> asking about how to install asterisk on ubuntu didn't get any responses
[08:52] <beniamino_> if i have multiple archives in my sources.list that contain the same packages, which one is used?
[08:52] <eflickne> Is there anyone available to help me out?
[08:52] <crimsun> !info asterisk
[08:52] <ubotu> asterisk: (open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX)), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.0.9.dfsg-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1061 kB, Installed size: 2992 kB
[08:52] <theball> w32: i am learning some of the foriegn to me topics so i just did not understand
[08:52] <myk> i have a hard drive question that i hope ubuntu can help/fix... i have a hard drive that is not formatted/partitioned or anything, and windows sees it, but wont let me do anything with it or pick up a drive letter. can ubuntu/linux help initialize the drive, and if so, what do i do?
[08:52] <crimsun> w32: I presume you've enabled universe and chosen to install asterisk via Synaptic, Add Applications, or aptitude/apt-get
[08:53] <w32> yes i did
[08:53] <crimsun> w32: so is it installed?
[08:53] <theball> myk hang on a sec
[08:53] <firestorm> Hi. Just swapped my PS/2 keyboard for a USB but it doesn't get picked up on Breezy. Any hints?
[08:53] !lilo:*! A small regional server has split and rejoined...we're waiting to see if there's significant packet loss. Affected users: about 310. Thanks.
[08:53] <w32>  yes but i haven't a clue how to configure it
[08:53] <w32> I'm used to aah
[08:53] <Sp4rKy> myk , if you want to format it, you could do a sudo mkfs /dev/hdX
[08:53] <wastrel> myk:  you can format it... mkfs  but you can't format in windows?
[08:53] <theball> Sonobana, thank you so much
[08:53] <eflickne> I have absolutely no video upon first boot, how can I re-enable vidoe.
[08:53] <Sonobana> no problem
[08:53] <crimsun> w32: there's good documentation on their Web site
[08:54] <theball> been killing many walls with forehead to get that working
[08:54] <Sp4rKy> really nobody to help me about usplash?
[08:54] <theball> myk can you boot into windows?
[08:54] <theball> with your system
[08:54] <intelikey> why is dpkg so buggy ?
[08:55] <theball> and what ver of windows
[08:55] <Jivenix> mornin
[08:55] <w32> crimsum: I didn't mean how to install either- i knew that i'm fuckin tired...it's there installed but i follow the docs and it don't work
[08:55] <myk> I'm in windows now ;)  and windows sees it in the Device Manager, but wont let me do anything with it in Disk Management (listed in one place but not another). last time this happened (different drive) i used the Maxtor disc and it worked. it wont with this one...
[08:55] <myk> XP
[08:55] <myk> Pro
[08:55] <theball> ok right click on my puter and click manage
[08:56] <w32> aah (centos based ) don't work either even though I get a dialtone-
[08:56] <myk> im there
[08:56] <eflickne> When X starts up I get no video....any hints?
[08:56] <w32> the server just ain't registering
[08:56] <crimsun> w32: I think you'll be better off checking #asterisk
[08:56] <theball> do you see the drive in the lower screen?
[08:56] <crimsun> w32: can't give you any pointers aside from that
[08:56] <w32> crimsum: I agree with you there I just was hoping someone here had done it in ubuntu
[08:56] <cyphase> "Five reasons NOT to use Linux" - http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8124627492.html
[08:56] <myk> theball: it's not listed there, even tho XP picked it up as "recognized hardware" upon booting up (i've rebooted several times since then)
[08:56] <theball> eflickne: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from a command line
[08:56] <cyphase> it's satire :)
[08:57] <crimsun> intelikey: care to elaborate?
[08:57] <eflickne> i have no video whatsoever....windows boots fine.
[08:57] <theball> myk: sound like a jumper config issue
[08:57] <intelikey> well i don't know what kind of a "hack" the install cd is, but it seems that if you use the install cd and do a server install it is afterwards impossable to install x without enabling the netowrd repos.   xlibs has deps that can't be met.
[08:57] <joseph> sonobana using ubuntu gnome
[08:57] <myk> cyphase: it's reason #5 that lead me here. i like expensive ;)
[08:57] <eflickne> i can see the ubuntu screen where it says loading this and that...
[08:58] <Sonobana> joseph: gnome-terminal is console
[08:58] <theball> myk do you have a win98 boot disk or a ubuntu cd?
[08:58] <myk> theball: jumper eh? hmm... i took it off...
[08:58] <cyphase> myk, me too
[08:58] <cyphase> :)
[08:58] <theball> is the drive master slave or cable select?
[08:58] <eflickne> just when X starts up then i hear the drum roll and the screen turns off
[08:58] <myk> no 98, but i have an ubuntu cd, i have ubuntu on a diff HD in this PC, just use windows more
[08:58] <crimsun> intelikey: presuming only the cdrom apt line is active, what're the unmetdeps packages?
[08:58] <w32> Well when I figure it out with ubuntu I'll post a tutorial somewhere
[08:58] <joseph> sonobana: thanks
[08:59] <w32> thanks guys bbl
[08:59] <theball> eflkne: hit ctrl-alt-bkspace
[08:59] <eflickne> i saw something for a second then it went back to blank screen...should i hold it down?
[09:00] <Shollow> Hi, i have a problem with ubuntu root user, When i was installing ubuntu don't give me root password and I can't log on root. can you help my?
[09:00] <intelikey> there are 6 libs  i would have to go back to that box for the names and i already pulled the plug on it....... litterally pulled the ac plug.
[09:00] <wastrel> eflickne:  that was gdm restarting the x server
[09:00] <theball> eflkne: hit ctrl-alt and minus key
[09:00] <eflickne> nothing...
[09:01] <eflickne> i see the login text screen for a brief second after CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[09:01] <eflickne> i have dual monitors....
[09:01] <theball> that spose to drop your resolution try to or 3 taps on the - key whilest holding the other 2
[09:01] <intelikey> if i deside to try it again crimsun i'll msg you.   i put a pastebin up on it eariler if you happen to log irc you can find it pdq
[09:01] <eflickne> should i unplug one and reboot?
[09:01] <theball> did ou get it working with just one?
[09:01] <wastrel> eflickne:  ctrl-alt-backspace  shuts down X.   so then gdm ( you display manager) restarts it
[09:01] <theball> heck yes
[09:02] <eflickne> still nothing
[09:02] <wastrel> eflickne:  what video card?
[09:02] <theball> get one working and then worry bout the other
[09:02] <wastrel> eflickne:  ctrl-alt-1
[09:02] <xerophyte> does anybody know any wireless hotspot authendication system ???
[09:02] <eflickne> Geforce 6600 OTC
[09:02] <wastrel> should get you to console
[09:02] <eflickne> i just did the initial install
[09:02] <Jivenix> highvoltage, i'm using ubuntu, but my gcc compiler cant find stdio.h file
[09:02] <Jivenix> where is it usually located?
[09:02] <wastrel> then sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop
[09:02] <eflickne> wastrel:  talking to me?
[09:03] <wastrel> er yeah sry :
[09:03] <wastrel> :]  , eeven
[09:03] <eflickne> wastrel:  i have no video at all on the other computer
[09:03] <wastrel> Jivenix:  did you install build-essential ?
[09:03] <myk> theball: sorry, took a bit to peek inside... "No Jumper = DS Slave". i have a custom switch that powers either my win or ubuntu HD which will be the master in either situation, this disk is to port stuff back and forth and as a storage place for the other 2. if i can just get windows to recognize it, i'd be set...
[09:03] <lockhead> how do i change between windows in vim?
[09:03] <wastrel> Jivenix:  if not, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:04] <johan> hello
[09:04] <wastrel> eflickne:  after ctrl-alt-1 ?
[09:04] <johan> anyone can help me?
[09:04] <highvoltage> Jivenix: seems like it's in /usr/include
[09:04] <defrysk> !anyone
[09:04] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[09:04] <Jivenix> i dont see it in mine highvoltage
[09:04] <eflickne> ctrl+alt+backspace does give me a brief login prompt
[09:04] <Jivenix> is there a package i need to get?
[09:04] <highvoltage> Jivenix: providede by package libc6-dev
[09:04] <Shollow> Help: How can I log on root i ubuntu??
[09:05] <Jivenix> thanks voltage
[09:05] <highvoltage> someone mentioned "build-essential", install that
[09:05] <wastrel> ubotu tell shollow about root
[09:05] <defrysk> !root
[09:05] <eflickne> how do i boot into terminal?
[09:05] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:05] <theball> johsn: go ahead
[09:05] <highvoltage> eflickne: what do you mean?
[09:06] <wastrel> eflickne:  what does ctrl-alt-1 do?
[09:06] <eflickne> wastrel:  it does nothing
[09:06] <crimsun> intelikey: it'd be more helpful to file a bug on Malone
[09:06] <theball> eflickne: have you booted the system with one monitor yet?
[09:06] <highvoltage> ectrl+alt+F1 would give you a virtual terminal
[09:06] <highvoltage> s/ectrl/ctrl
[09:06] <wastrel> doh yeah f1 not one, my bad
[09:06] <wastrel> ctrl-alt-f1
[09:06] <highvoltage> F7 is back
[09:06] <eflickne> ok that got me somewhere
[09:06] <wastrel> sry it's getting late here ;] 
[09:06] <eflickne> highvoltage:  thanks
[09:07] <theball> wastrel: where are you from?
[09:07] <wastrel> nyc
[09:07] <intelikey> crimsun yeah but i'd have to regester to do that.   i'm too lazy to regester.
[09:07] <Jivenix> ah, build-essential, nice!
[09:07] <athlon> whats the best player to watch rmvb files ? when I try Realplay's own player, it stutters every 5 seconds
[09:07] <theball> got me by 3 hours
[09:08] <johan> any indonesian here?
[09:08] <defrysk> !indonesia
[09:08] <ubotu> defrysk: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:08] <defrysk> too bad
[09:08] <Jivenix> in windows, when i compiled with gcc, i did something like, gcc myfile.c -o myfile.exe
[09:08] <myk> theball: will ubuntu pick up the disk, or are you thinking that i should try to install ubuntu onto it? ooh... durr... it should pick it up huh?
[09:08] <Jivenix> how do i compile to something that will run
[09:08] <Jivenix> :p
[09:09] <Jivenix> in linux
[09:09] <eflickne> what was that apt-get thing for reconfiguring display for X
[09:09] <SeyToN> i cant find in the ubuntu forum about installing deb files :(
[09:09] <wastrel> Jivenix:  that should work... you don't need the .exe of course
[09:09] <theball> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <theball> eflickne
[09:09] <Jivenix> oh
[09:10] <theball> SeyTon: you want to install dloaded deb files?
[09:10] <athlon> try dpkg -i <debfiles>
[09:10] <SeyToN> i download nero and its .deb file
[09:10] <theball> sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[09:10] <SeyToN> and i have no idea how to install it
[09:10] <intelikey> Jivenix  files are executable in linus because of the "permissions" bit  not the file name extention.
[09:10] <SeyToN> cheers
[09:10] <myk> bbl
[09:10] <wastrel> Jivenix:  make myfile  should work too
[09:11] <Jivenix> i got it working!
[09:11] <Jivenix> thanks
[09:11] <theball> sudo dpkg -i  nero****
[09:11] <eflickne> its configuring X-server now
[09:11] <theball> eflickne: great
[09:11] <eflickne> its asking amt of memory in kB to be used by video card....what should i put
[09:11] <eflickne> its 128 MB video card
[09:12] <eflickne> 128 * 1024?
[09:12] <theball> just hit enter
[09:12] <theball> dont specify
[09:12] <intelikey> echo "$(( 128 * 1024))"
[09:12] <theball> most entries are default hit enter
[09:12] <SeyToN> athlon try dpkg -i <debfiles><-------------------- THANKS YOU SAVE ME ALOT OF TIME :D
[09:13] <intelikey> bash knows math   echo "$(( 128 * 1024 ))"
[09:13] <Jivenix> whats "C99 mode"
[09:13] <theball> myk: did i miss you
[09:13] <pepeluchollanos> hola
[09:13] <pepeluchollanos> como estan
[09:14] <pepeluchollanos> alguien habla espaol?
[09:14] <theball> night all
[09:14] <intelikey> Jivenix me thinks it is code type like g77 c++ ....
[09:14] <eflickne> everyone:  i got graphical login on one screen
[09:14] <eflickne> everyone:  thanks
[09:14] <szymon> In documentation is been written " Enabling the root account ", I want old way but i don't know password. how can i find it ?
[09:15] <wastrel> eflickne:  gl getting xinerama working ;] 
[09:15] <theball> eflickne: have a rgeat time!! night
[09:15] <eflickne> i only need gcc for a networking class :)
[09:15] <wastrel> Jivenix:  i'm guessing it's using the C99 language standard
[09:15] <eflickne> i know how to install that ;)
[09:15] <intelikey> szymon there is no root password unless you set one.   use   sudo   and your user password
[09:16] <eflickne> another question:  can I install the nvidia driver and have dual monitors for gnome?
[09:17] <Jivenix> is there a quick hotkey to move between desktops?
[09:17] <athlon> ctrl-f1 - ctrl-f4
[09:17] <eflickne> Jivenix:  good question :)
[09:17] <intelikey> eflickne you do know about build-essential ?
[09:18] <Jivenix> hmm, it appears my function keys dont work in ubuntu
[09:18] <wastrel> Jivenix:  in gnome it's ctrl-alt-<left arrow>
[09:18] <wastrel> or right arrow
[09:18] <wastrel> depending which direction you're going
[09:18] <Jivenix> yeah that works
[09:18] <Jivenix> sweet
[09:18] <Jivenix> thanks
[09:18] <Jivenix> how about to conjure up a console?
[09:18] <athlon> whoops, I am using kubuntu :-)
[09:18] <Jivenix> err, terminal
[09:18] <bk> does anyone know how to join a gnome server and channel?
[09:18] <MabusXP> How do you shink the icon sizes on the desktop?
[09:19] <mAIJK> Can someone explain why my internet browsning runs slower on my ubuntu setup then on my windows setup? I takes several sec to browse a new page. In windows it runs much faster.......
[09:19] <wastrel> hm there's a run dialog box... don't remember the key for it
[09:19] <intelikey> [ctrl] +[alt] +[f#] 
[09:19] <eflickne> yes
[09:19] <wastrel> dunno if there's a terminal hotkey
[09:19] <eflickne> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:19] <eflickne> apache2
[09:19] <wastrel> Jivenix:  system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts   btw :] 
[09:19] <Jivenix> oh nice
[09:19] <eflickne> sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-worker
 hm there's a run dialog box... [alt] +[f2] 
[09:19] <UFO> if i install an 32bit ubuntu on 64bit turion wich kernel should i choose
[09:20] <Jivenix> sweet!
[09:20] <Jivenix> i set up control space to conjure up a terminal
[09:20] <MabusXP> How do you shink the icon sizes on the desktop? I know you can resize one, but how do you change the default size?
[09:21] <Jivenix> hey you guys see that crazy desktop from novel
[09:21] <wastrel> Jivenix:  not a bad idea :] 
[09:21] <Jivenix> can you run that with ubuntu?
[09:21] <Jivenix> where the desktop turns into a 3d cube you can spin around
[09:21] <Jivenix> and with transparencies and etc
[09:21] <wastrel> MabusXP:  i'm not sure... you could check settings in nautilus or it may be a gnome registry thing...
[09:21] <eflickne> one of my classmates has that on his laptop....its the stupidest thing i've seen
[09:21] <UFO> Jivenix, yes xgl package
[09:21] <Jivenix> lol
[09:21] <virogenesis> only with dapper Jivenix  which isn't suggested actually you can with breezy but pain in the ass
[09:22] <Jivenix> oklinux_, i wont mess with it
[09:22] <Jivenix> oops
[09:22] <Jivenix> that should have read, ok - i wont mess with it
[09:22] <Jivenix> its useless i'm sure, but its pretty neat looking eye candy
[09:22] <virogenesis> UFO,  doesn't it require you to update xorg to xorg 7?
[09:23] <UFO> xgl package needs the xorg7, you can compile the thing to breezy or use dapper
[09:23] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  have you gotten the Xgl server running on Dapper?
[09:23] <Jivenix> what's dapper?
[09:23] <UFO> ProfessorChaos, not yet but it should not be a problem, tested with suse
[09:23] <dooglus> !dapper
[09:23] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due April 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[09:23] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  NICE
[09:24] <Jivenix> nice
[09:24] <Jivenix> ufo, is it too complicated for a mere mortal like me
[09:24] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  i've been trying to get Xgl running on my desktop with a nvidia card and those debs at this website .... http://battlehorse.homelinux.net/w/Wiki.jsp?page=Xgl
[09:24] <myk> eep. so, i had the unusable, but detectable, HD flying solo when i tried to install ubuntu. it balked at the partitioning stage with the error (3 times, 1 read and 2 write) "Input/output error during (insert read or write) on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc"
[09:25] <virogenesis> Jivenix, what gfxs card do you have?
[09:25] <UFO> ProfessorChaos, you should look the driver issues from suse page
[09:25] <Jivenix> radeon 9k
[09:25] <Jivenix> on my desktop, some crappy intel thing on this laptop
[09:25] <eflickne> IA-32 = x86?
[09:25] <Prophet> wastrel: man do I feel n00bie right now... Forgot that I didn't have any updates/repisitories...... Now xmms works
[09:25] <Jivenix> how do i find out what graphics card i have on the laptop, any command?
[09:26] <meepy> I need some help, when I try open the application menu editor, it shows as open, but never do, just exits...
[09:26] <wastrel> MabusXP:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75044.html
[09:26] <eflickne> i have athlonx2 3800+
[09:26] <p0windah> Jivenix: dmesg | more
[09:26] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  you mean from the wiki page?
[09:26] <virogenesis> ati don't exactly have the best drivers
[09:26] <ProfessorChaos> it doesn't say anything about segmentation faults
[09:26] <intelikey> just a note to whom it may concern; if you setup a duel boot and one system is m$ something, and it isn't on the first hd  then grub will automatically set it up to boot; but it can't boot.    it seems that grub doesn't know to remap the drives like lilo does.    i also know that it can be fixed manually, but the automatic setup either should do it right or not at all.
[09:26] <UFO> ProfessorChaos, http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl
[09:26] <wastrel> Prophet:  cool :] 
[09:27] <meepy> Please, anyone?
[09:27] <intelikey> Jivenix lshw ~ lspci
[09:27] <UFO> ProfessorChaos, you need the 3d acceleration to work first, try with glxgears
[09:28] <Jivenix> yeah, just some crappy intel controller
[09:28] <intelikey> meepy try opening it in a terminal with   gksudo <blah>
[09:28] <Prophet> wastrel: after the 30 min of d/l I edited a file to update everything, d/l that than i did the sudo apt-get install crap and it worked, no toying with glib or anything..... It was at this point I grabbed a cup of coffee and swore to only use linux as my OS, with MS it would have been too much effort...
[09:29] <xerophyte> could somebody compare the nocatauth vs wifidog ?
[09:29] <Prophet> and that was what I did in my abscence...
[09:29] <UFO> ok... my download for ubuntu32bit is ready, need to install it, i can give some vnc connection of xgl if got it to work
[09:29] <szymon> I try to change root password using " sudo passwd root " but it ask me for a password.
[09:29] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  right on..
[09:29] <Prophet> lol
[09:29] <frogzoo> !root
[09:29] <meepy> /home/meep/.themes/Black/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:878: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "Menu-Menubar/menu-overlay.png"
[09:29] <meepy> sudo: dsf: command not found
[09:29] <meepy> (gksudo:8062): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for gperfection2 has no name
[09:29] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:29] <meepy> sorry
[09:29] <meepy> spam
[09:29] <wastrel> szymon:  yes, when you use sudo it asks you for your password.  type in the password for your user account
[09:30] <Prophet> szymon: use sudo -s -H
[09:30] <Jivenix> ufo, yay!
[09:30] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  it works
[09:30] <Prophet> szymon: than cd is it applies
[09:30] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  hello ya
[09:30] <ProfessorChaos> UFO:  let me see that if you get it running
[09:31] <Prophet> *if it applies
[09:31] <UFO> ProfessorChaos, ok
[09:31] <eflickne> i can't get this damn video driver to install...tried the alt-ctrl-f1 thing and it still says i'm running x server
[09:31] <eflickne> any tips?
[09:31] <bicinator> HELP!!!! http://pastebin.com/555610
[09:31] <wastrel> eflickne:  alt-ctrl-f1 leaves X running
[09:31] <wastrel> eflickne:  it just gets you out of it
[09:32] <eflickne> how to kill it and just get to login shell
[09:32] <eflickne> completely out of x
[09:32] <wastrel> eflickne:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:32] <intelikey> eflickne you will have to kill x ?
[09:32] <wastrel> eflickne:  should work i think
[09:32] <Jivenix> has someone posted this already?
[09:32] <Jivenix> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[09:32] <eflickne> nvidia driver says i'm still running x server
[09:32] <Jivenix> how to put xgl on ubuntu
[09:32] <wastrel> eflickne:  after you do that you may need to go back to X (ctrl-alt-F7) then shut it down
[09:33] <ProfessorChaos> bicinator:  ha
[09:33] <bicinator> HELP!!!! http://pastebin.com/555610
[09:33] <MabusXP> wastrel: thanks for the valiant effort, but with those options you can only increase it from stanard to large or larger.. I wanted to shrink
[09:33] <intelikey> eflickne did you    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    ?
[09:33] <UFO> by,
[09:33] <Prophet> szymon: Did it work?
[09:33] <eflickne> no
[09:33] <intelikey> then you are still running x
[09:35] <wastrel> MabusXP:  small & smaller, it works i just tried
[09:36] <Jivenix> how do i get the version of my ubuntu
[09:37] <intelikey> uname -r
[09:37] <Jivenix> is the codename in there somewhere?
[09:37] <wastrel> Jivenix:  lsb_release -a
[09:37] <Jivenix> nice
[09:37] <Jivenix> crap, i have breezey
[09:37] <Jivenix> i cant use xgl :\\
[09:38] <Jivenix> is upgrading painless?
[09:38] <Jivenix> can i make synaptic do it
[09:38] <wastrel> breezy is the current stable version
[09:38] <myk> how well will ubuntu pick up and initialize (partition/etc) a new hard drive that may or may not have been in my xbox previously but windows sees and wont let me use? o.O
[09:38] <Seveas> Jivenix, no it's not painless right now - dapper is unstable
[09:38] <Alinux> hello, I've installed mozilla-imagezoom but can't remove a package... I get some strange error messages, please someone help me :/
[09:39] <Seveas> Alinux, errors at the pastebin please
[09:39] <intelikey> myk linux does not use the bios to find and access hdd's so probably "very well"
[09:39] <Alinux> Seveas, aha I know
[09:40] <Alinux> http://pastebin.com/555619 Seveas
[09:40] <Alinux> :)
[09:40] <myk> will using/being in ubuntu on a primary HD (already installed) work better than when i tried to install ubuntu on the HD in question? (it wouldnt partition during the install)
[09:41] <bicinator> x server help http://pastebin.com/555610
[09:41] <Alinux> I can't really understand where the problem is :(((((
[09:41] <bicinator> pleaaaaaase
[09:41] <Alinux> I can't even update my system...
[09:41] <Alinux> this problem has blocked my updates...
[09:42] <Seveas> Alinux, hmm... try dpkg -i'ing the original deb again
[09:42] <intelikey> myk if you can not partition the drive from the installer you probably cant use it.    and if m$ can see the drive but cant access it     that means that it is probably a hardware issue.  i.e.  remove it, you cant use it.
[09:43] <Alinux> Seveas, I've installed this mozillazoom from apt repository
[09:43] <Alinux> no manual installtion
[09:43] <Alinux> but can't remove it.
[09:43] <Seveas> Alinux, you can manually download it from the repository too :)
[09:43] <szymon>  when I use that i saw " szymon@Shollow:~$ sudo -s -H " szymon is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."  what is going on??
[09:43] <myk> bleh. okay, thanks ;) i guess i'll head to bed and cry myself to sleep
[09:43] <intelikey> myk  hehhe or unplug the ide cable and flip it over the right way......  :?
[09:43] <Seveas> Alinux, you can also edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-imagezoom.postrm and remove the error-giving lines
[09:44] <cyphase> :O
[09:44] <cyphase> http://www.ctatattler.com/2006/02/cta_info_screen.html
[09:44] <Alinux> Seveas, ah
[09:44] <liable> eww
[09:45] <intelikey> i did a  rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postrm   one time.... makes removing things a breeze  :)
[09:45] <tortho> when i start gnome i'll get an error window, but the info in it says delete or keep the panel.... It doesn't say anything more.... also my wallpaper is gone, and i can't rightclick the desktop.. to get a menu.. Any solutions?
[09:45] <myk> LOL! well, it ~was~ in my xbox (chipped) and i want to use it in my pc again. i've followed all instructions to bring it back into the pc world, but no go. was helping ubuntu would ubunt-it... thanks for the help tho :D
[09:45] <liable> good way to break dpkg too..
[09:46] <intelikey> pn myk
[09:46] <Seveas> intelikey, omg.. :)
[09:46] <Alinux> Sebastian_G, with normal dpkg -i I can't install it
[09:46] <intelikey> liable dpkg was already borked there.
[09:46] <tyndz> how about xgl?
[09:47] <Alinux> Seveas, is there way to remove it forever ? :)
[09:47] <Seveas> Alinux, sudo rm -rf /
[09:47] <Seveas> ;)
 Sebastian_G, with normal dpkg -i I can't install it          sudo ?
[09:47] <Alinux> Sebastian_G, :D
[09:47] <Alinux> Seveas, :)
[09:47] <Alinux> ok
[09:47] <Alinux> I'll do it
[09:48] <Seveas> Alinux, but commenting out bad parts of the postrm should do the trick
[09:48] <Alinux> mmmm sudo rm -rf / works... but HD is very busy
[09:49] <intelikey> yeah it will slow down i a while.
[09:49] <szymon> How can I become a sudo user ??
[09:49] <intelikey> but you won't have many files left
[09:49] <Seveas> szymon, by using sudo :)
[09:49] <bicinator> Anyone who knows anything about x server = http://pastebin.com/555610
[09:49] <Madpilot> szymon: read the URL you were given - sudo just goes in front of the command you need to use
[09:49] <intelikey> get in the admin group szymon
[09:50] <SeyToN> anyone can recomend me a good program to copy dvd movies... Like (Shrink on w32) for linux?
[09:50] <wastrel> bicinator:  are you in the video group?
[09:50] <Matyasza> hi there :)
[09:50] <szymon> but when i use sudo  console shows that i'm no sudo user
[09:51] <liable> SeyToN: k9copy, no idea if ubuntu has it.
[09:51] <Madpilot> szymon: there is no "sudo user"
[09:51] <szymon> i want to change root password
[09:51] <Matyasza> I just installed Ubuntu and have another server on the network but for some reason my ubuntu linux doesnt get a ip address from my DHCP server
[09:51] <SeyToN> i'll if it works
[09:51] <SeyToN> cheers by the way
[09:51] <szymon> " sudo passwd root
[09:52] <szymon> and nothing happens
[09:52] <Madpilot> szymon: you don't need a root pw...
[09:52] <intelikey> szymon how did you install ubuntu?   default   or expert/server-expert ?
[09:52] <szymon> default
[09:53] <wastrel> Matyasza:  are you using gnome?   system->administration->networking
[09:53] <intelikey> the user you made durring install should be able to use    sudo
[09:53] <NoStress> hi people and bots
[09:53] <intelikey> any users added after that probably wont be able too
[09:54] <heliotrope> success!
[09:54] <wastrel> rawk
[09:54] <Matyasza> !network
[09:54] <heliotrope> oooh! one more question though
[09:54] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[09:54] <Matyasza> !dhcp-setup
[09:54] <ubotu> Matyasza: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:54] <heliotrope> wastrel: i have a wireless card for my laptop, it's not showing up or working on ubuntu
[09:54] <heliotrope> wastrel: i dont know how to install drivers on linux :\
[09:55] <liable> heliotrope: sorry you have exceeded your daily quota! :)
[09:55] <intelikey> !wifi
[09:55] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:55] <wastrel> wifi config is voodoo
[09:55] <heliotrope> where is that at
[09:55] <szymon> intelikey : i try to do system update and i give my passwd  and it show my that i don't have root  acces
[09:55] <liable> meh
[09:55] <wastrel> i won't touch it, likely to get hexed
[09:56] <wastrel> Matyasza:  did you try system->administration->networking ?
[09:56] <eflickne> everyone:  anyone recommend a good C++ IDE for developing console apps?
[09:56] <Matyasza> I cant get into KDE yet
[09:56] <eflickne> i have SciTE installed and am quite familiar with makefiles....
[09:56] <eflickne> just curious
[09:56] <Matyasza> because i need to use my network to copy the grapics cards
[09:56] <Matyasza> drivers
[09:56] <Madpilot> szymon: using your own user pw when it asks for one?
[09:56] <wastrel> Matyasza:  ok how about ifconfig eth0
[09:57] <intelikey> szymon if you are locked out of root,  you will have to boot to single  or possable "failsafe mode"  (is failsafe = root?)   and fix it.
[09:57] <Matyasza> for some reason the ubuntu doesnt pick up the ipaddress
[09:57] <meepy> How do I remove hplip?
[09:58] <Matyasza> ok thanks
[09:58] <Matyasza> i managed to give myself a ip address
[09:58] <wastrel> yay
[09:58] <intelikey> meepy you mean    apt-get remove --purge hplip   ?
[09:58] <wastrel> Matyasza:  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:58] <wastrel> 
[09:58] <Matyasza> wastrel: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.198 --------> thank you
[09:58] <wastrel> adding that to /etc/network/interfaces  might work..
[09:59] <wastrel> for dhcp
[09:59] <fek> moin
[09:59] <wastrel> but manual is good :] 
[09:59] <Matyasza> yeah i will try that
[09:59] <Matyasza> all i wanted to do is actually just copy a file of my other pc for now
[09:59] <heliotrope> this looks like a lot of work for a wireless card
[09:59] <Alinux> Seveas, done. removed config and all relative files.
[10:00] <meepy> intelikey: it says its not installed
[10:00] <heliotrope> a lot of work is still better than paying for windows though, so.. here i go (crying)
[10:00] <liable> heliotrope: dpends how much you like checking emails from the garden/cafe/shitter..
[10:01] <heliotrope> haha, my house is set up as a wireless network
[10:01] <wastrel> heliotrope:  it is a royal pita
[10:01] <Seveas> wireless is qctually quite easy
[10:01] <SeyToN> i really like this tool of debian "apt-get" :P
[10:01] <wastrel> heliotrope:  is your card supported?
[10:01] <Seveas> if ou don't use wpa/802.1x
[10:01] <liable> meh, get the driver, the rest is easy..
[10:01] <Seveas> or a broadcrap card
[10:01] <heliotrope> i have a linksys 802.11g
[10:01] <heliotrope> :\
[10:01] <liable> even wpa is easy if the driver and wpasupp play.
[10:01] <heliotrope> i just switched from windows
[10:01] <intelikey> meepy oh you mean    sudo apt-get install hplip && sudo apt-get remove --purge hplip   then ?
[10:01] <faiper> Someone in DapperFlight3 ?
[10:02] <intelikey> :)
[10:02] <Seveas> liable, yeah, NOW it is, in the early days of ubuntu I struggled a lot with it :)
[10:02] <heliotrope> so, i have the cd that came with it
[10:02] <meepy> ....
[10:02] <meepy> I want to close port 1025,1026
[10:02] <liable> Seveas: wpa supp will always keep you on your toes with new versions :)
[10:02] <heliotrope> what should i do?
[10:02] <meepy> I thought hplip was running on that
[10:02] <Alinux> Seveas, faiper me to Dapper F 3
[10:02] <Seveas> liable, with network manager at least some clue is going into it
[10:03] <Seveas> (wpasupplicant really is on crack)
[10:03] <intelikey> meepy if it aint installed it must not be running on them
[10:03] <elkbuntu> !e17
[10:03] <heliotrope> seveas, what should i do to set this up?
[10:03] <meepy> Any way to locate what process is running on it?
[10:03] <elkbuntu> does e17 go ok on dapper, does anyone know?
[10:04] <Seveas> heliotrope, didn't see your question at all, just dropped in. But it being a linksys suggests a broadcom chip. Does your lspci agree with that?
[10:04] <intelikey> lsof | grep 102
[10:04] <faiper> Already of the one to install the Dapper as main system?
[10:04] <heliotrope> seveas, i dont eve know what that means, im sorry i just installed ubuntu, im a total n00b
[10:04] <tortho> anyone who knows exactly wich gnome package wich controls the desktop window (the wallpapered "window")?
[10:04] <elkbuntu> faiper just apt-get dist-upgrade, not via cd, no
[10:04] <tortho> if there is only one :-)
[10:04] <Seveas> heliotrope, open a terminal (apps -> accessories -> terminal) and type "lspci"
[10:05] <Seveas> heliotrope, in the crap it spits out, search for "Ethernet Controller"
[10:05] <Seveas> What brand does it say after "Ethernet Controller"?
[10:05] <intelikey> tortho gnome ?
[10:05] <elkbuntu> faiper and no, not as main system, but i think it's at least a week since i windozed
[10:06] <malv> whats the standard gnome newsgroup reader?
[10:06] <Seveas> pan
[10:06] <heliotrope> Via Technologies, [Rhine-II] 
[10:06] <malv> thanks
[10:06] <heliotrope> (this baby is ooooollldddd)
[10:06] <Seveas> heliotrope, ok, that's the cable network, there should be another one :)
[10:06] <heliotrope> haha, ok lemme check
[10:07] <tortho> intelikey: I've lost the wallpaper & the "right-click menu" on my desktop.. because i was running out of disk space.. i tryed to reinstall a couple of packages, but it still gives me an error at startup..
[10:07] <heliotrope> i found a network controller which im assuming you mean because its called
[10:07] <heliotrope> Broadcom Corporation BCM4306
[10:07] <Seveas> yep, broadcrap alright
[10:07] <heliotrope> lol nice
[10:07] <Seveas> that means ndiswrapper "fun"
[10:07] <Matyasza> wastrel: do you know how i set my gateway inside eth0?
[10:07] <intelikey> tortho oooh yuch.
[10:07] <Seveas> do you have the windows 2000 driver for the card? You need the .sys and.inf file from that driver
[10:08] <szymon> can I logon root account in gnome?
[10:08] <heliotrope> yeah, the disc is in now
[10:08] <tortho> intelikey: And dapper is no good at handeling this. it freezes, even if you free up some space.
[10:08] <newbiee> hello...
[10:08] <wastrel> Matyasza:  route add default gw <foo>
[10:08] <Seveas> hi newbiee
[10:09] <intelikey> that's major borkage tortho,  make larger partitions and start over.
[10:09] <heliotrope> what do i do with those files?
[10:09] <Matyasza> thank you
[10:09] <Seveas> heliotrope, put the .inf and .sys file somewhere where you can find it easily (your homedir should work)
[10:09] <newbiee> hi Seveas
[10:09] <heliotrope> ok
[10:09] <tortho> intelikey: I was waiting for that one :-)
[10:09] <heliotrope> ill just throw it on the desktop haha
[10:09] <newbiee> whats the command for unblock port.. i mean after drop some port
[10:09] <Seveas> heliotrope, that should work :)
[10:09] <heliotrope> what do the little locks mean?
[10:10] <heliotrope> (i stress the n00bness)
[10:10] <Seveas> heliotrope, after that: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/bla.inf (replace bla.inf with the real name of course)
[10:10] <Seveas> heliotrope, that the files are not writable
[10:10] <Hysty> can someone who has Kubuntu 5.10 installed please tell me what their menu.lst grub boot entry is?
[10:10] <Seveas> which is completely unimportant for now :)
[10:10] <heliotrope> haha ok
[10:11] <intelikey> Hysty kubuntu/ubuntu  the menu.lst should be the same
[10:11] <Seveas> raphink, poke, what are you dong to your connection? :)
[10:12] <Hysty> intelikey: thats what i thought, but i am getting a file not found error message
[10:12] <heliotrope> it said command not found :\
[10:12] <wastrel> Hysty:  #flood
[10:12] <heliotrope> i must have done something wrong
[10:12] <Seveas> heliotrope, ah right: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[10:12] <Seveas> heliotrope, no, the 'ndiswrapper' command is not installed by default
[10:13] <heliotrope> ohh
[10:13] <Hysty> ah kubuntu is 686 not 386
[10:13] <heliotrope> ok, it's doing its thing
[10:13] <ownerx> it installs the 386 kernel by default
[10:13] <heliotrope> ok installed the inf
[10:13] <Seveas> heliotrope, if it's done that try the command again
[10:13] <newbiee> hay... after drop some port... how up it and make it work again?
[10:13] <wastrel> Hysty:  depends on your processor :] 
[10:13] <intelikey> Hysty check absolute paths  i.e.   ls    /initrd      /boot/initrd-<release>.img    and so forth.
[10:14] <Seveas> ok, try: sudo ndiswrapper -l
[10:14] <intelikey> err ls -l
[10:14] <Seveas> that should say "driver present, hardware present"
[10:14] <heliotrope> wait what, i did the .inf file
[10:14] <NoStress> newbiee: you should read some documentation about iptables, or install a gui like firestarter
[10:14] <intelikey> and compare them with the entry in your menu.lst
[10:15] <heliotrope> now do sudo ndiswrapper -l ?
[10:15] <newbiee> NoStress: i never use linux before.. so..im blid about it
[10:15] <NoStress> newbiee: install firestarter with synaptic
[10:15] <Seveas> heliotrope, correct
[10:15] <NoStress> !firestarter
[10:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[10:16] <heliotrope> :), ok
[10:16] <heliotrope> now what do i do?
[10:17] <Seveas> heliotrope, did it say "driver present, hardware present"?
[10:17] <heliotrope> yeah it did
[10:17] <Seveas> cool
[10:17] <Seveas> then do this:
[10:17] <Seveas> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:17] <Seveas> echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[10:17] <Seveas> that loads the driver
[10:17] <wastrel> aww
[10:18] <wastrel> you should get him using vi
[10:18] <intelikey> tee is good
[10:18] <Seveas> wastrel, I'm not that evil
[10:18] <wastrel> :p
[10:18] <heliotrope> ok
[10:18] <Seveas> no errors?
[10:18] <heliotrope> dont see any, it just echoed ndiswrapper and thats it
[10:18] <Seveas> this is going really smooth then :)
[10:19] <Seveas> try: ifconfig -a
[10:19] <heliotrope> almost.. too smooth lol
[10:19] <Seveas> it should show a 'wlan0'
[10:19] <heliotrope> it does
[10:19] <Seveas> do you use dhcp on your network or fixed addresses?
[10:20] <heliotrope> umm
[10:20] <heliotrope> dhcp im guessing :\
[10:20] <wastrel> ooh i want a fixed addy for my wiffy
[10:20] <Seveas> if you don't specify addresses manually anywhere you use dhcp :)
[10:20] <heliotrope> haha, then that's what i use
[10:20] <Seveas> ok, then you're almost there
[10:20] <heliotrope> yayyy
[10:20] <Seveas> 3 more commands to get it working:
[10:20] <heliotrope> sounds good to me
[10:20] <meepy> I do a portscan on myself and find that port 631, 1025, 1026 is open. I tried lsof -i :port - but it comes with an error
[10:21] <Seveas> echo "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" | sudo tee -a /etc/network interfaces
[10:21] <Seveas> echo "auto wlan0" | sudo tee -a /etc/network interfaces
[10:21] <Seveas> ah feck
[10:21] <Seveas> those are wrong :)
[10:21] <wastrel> meepy:  grep 631 /etc/services
[10:21] <Seveas> echo "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces
[10:21] <heliotrope> haha
[10:21] <Seveas> echo "auto wlan0" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces
[10:21] <Seveas> those are right :)
[10:22] <Seveas> and as last command: sudo ifup wlan0
[10:22] <Seveas> and it should then work :)
[10:22] <wastrel> meepy:  631 is CUPS i'm guessing
[10:23] <heliotrope> its doing something haha
[10:23] <meepy> I already did remove gnome-cups-manager
[10:23] <heliotrope> not sure what
[10:23] <meepy> But its still listining
[10:23] <Seveas> at the end it should say "Bound to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[10:23] <catfox> hi all. would any mail server savvy people be able to take a look at this thread if they have time? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129953
[10:23] <catfox> i can't figure out what's wrong
[10:24] <heliotrope> it said
[10:24] <heliotrope> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[10:24] <heliotrope> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[10:24] <Seveas> ah wait
[10:24] <heliotrope> k
[10:24] <Seveas> I forgot something quite important
[10:24] <heliotrope> uh ohh
[10:24] <Seveas> do you use wep or wpa?
[10:24] <heliotrope> wep
[10:24] <wastrel> meepy:  dunno...
[10:25] <Seveas> yeah, than it can't work yet :)
[10:25] <Seveas> we didn't add the network details
[10:25] <heliotrope> :O
[10:25] <Seveas> but you can do that via the gui, which is easier -> system -> admin -> networking
[10:26] <heliotrope> where did you learn to do all of that
[10:26] <Seveas> actually, I never used that gui thing
[10:27] <Seveas> I'm a command line addict :)
[10:27] <heliotrope> i can tell! lol
[10:27] <Madpilot> you can get treatment for that, you know :P
[10:27] <wastrel> night night
[10:27] <Seveas> Madpilot, I don't want to :)
[10:27] <heliotrope> it says it's active but i cant access any pages
[10:28] <kryptoz> if i had a Gig switch and Gig ethernet cards in my computers i can attain maximum 1 Gbps speed rite ? is there a way where i can attain more traffic than tis ?
[10:28] <Seveas> heliotrope, try 'iwconfig wlan0' does it report to be connected to your essid with the correct WEP key?
[10:28] <_mindspin> you know that all machines share the bandwidth?
[10:28] <intelikey> Madpilot tretment for cli users is   apt-get remove xserver-xorg   isn't it ?
[10:29] <Madpilot> intelikey: no, that creates cli addicts
[10:29] <intelikey> so that's why i'm getting worse.....
[10:29] <heliotrope> essid:off/any
[10:30] <stevr1it> i need your help once again. I need to instal the laser shot printer canon LBP 2900
[10:31] <stevr1it> i was able to find a way a week ago, now i have lost the website
[10:31] <Madpilot> !printers
[10:31] <ubotu> I heard printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:31] <stevr1it> i will check soon
[10:31] <Seveas> heliotrope, hmm, try this to get it working for now: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your ssid here"
[10:31] <stevr1it> linux printing, laredy seen, nothing in it
[10:32] <Seveas> heliotrope, and for now, turn off wep on the router
[10:32] <Seveas> just to see whether it works without wep
[10:32] <elkbuntu> !wine
[10:33] <xvium> Hello
[10:33] <stevr1it> nothing it botht he links
[10:33] <stevr1it> the links
[10:33] <stevr1it> it does nto exist as model inthem
[10:33] <xvium> how come when i use su to get into root it says authentication failure
[10:33] <xvium> ?
[10:34] <Madpilot> xvium: use sudo
[10:34] <hatake_kakashi> xvium: maybe incorrect password?
[10:34] <Madpilot> !tell xvium about root
[10:35] <hatake_kakashi> is there a possibility to install kubuntu-desktop from the cd without downloading and then installing it from the repos?
[10:35] <intelikey> xvium  i would guess because you have no root password set..........
[10:35] <heliotrope> just one sec
[10:35] <xvium> Thx mad pilot
[10:35] <hatake_kakashi> xvium: btw, by default root'
[10:35] <nowotny> hello... does anyone know if there is a way to check what so intensively writes to my HDD...?
[10:35] <GigaClon> hatake_kakashi, only if you have the kubuntu install CD
[10:35] <intelikey> hatake_kakashi if you have the kubuntu cd
[10:35] <stevr1it> so, any further suggestion for this canon LBP laser 2900 printer?
[10:35] <hatake_kakashi> root's account has no password and you cannot login via su
[10:36] <hatake_kakashi> GigaClon and intelikey: I have installed ubuntu Hoary, I also have kubuntu hoary. I have done apt-cdrom but it still fails to install from the cd first prior to downloading from the web
[10:36] <ProfessorChaos> okay, so my i'm trying to get dapper running on my box, X doesn't seem to be working now!  yay!  here's a pastebin of my attempt to reinstall the xserver-xorg package http://pastebin.com/555656
[10:36] <ProfessorChaos> HELP!
[10:36] <heliotrope> you're going to kill me
[10:36] <heliotrope> it's wpa
[10:37] <intelikey> hatake_kakashi yes i know your pain there.  comment out the repos and install it then undo that
[10:37] <hatake_kakashi> GigaClon and intelikey: I have tried apt-get update and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but it fails..
[10:37] <heliotrope> sorry, its my friends router, im not even at home, its WPA
[10:37] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: hmm ok going to give that a try after I finnish getting the updates through my shaped connection :S
[10:38] <intelikey> hatake_kakashi it seem that apt is hard coded to use network over cds....   seems backwards to me, but so it is.
[10:38] <snowblink> are the security patches available yet?
[10:38] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: that would be a one big against the idea of apt-get :/ oh well
[10:39] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: oh btw, what happens if even after I tried uncommenting those extra lines out and it still fails?
[10:39] <dark`zzz> mplayer don't wanna use opengl, when i choose gl or gl2 driver it crashes, how can i install opengl libs?
[10:40] <dark`zzz> and, how can i set subtitles to do not be transparent on mplayer? u_u
[10:40] <intelikey> hatake_kakashi let's not get me started,  i'm not too pleased with apt/dpkg today anyway.....
[10:40] <tortho> Anyone using a CNet CWP-854 wireless network card?
[10:40] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: blah, well I'd ask just in case :) I have had to reinstall at least twice due to adventerous apt-get everything out of both stable and universe/multiverse repos
[10:41] <Upayavir1> I am planning to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper, to try and fix an ACPI problem. Is there anything I should know about upgrading (I know about /etc/apt/sources.list etc) Is there a specific version I should upgrade to? Just to the latest? Is it stable enough for "intelligent" daily usage?
[10:41] <intelikey> hatake_kakashi what happens is lots of special words with little compassion for the packagers....    ;/
[10:42] <helio> seveas?
[10:42] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: though I do thank those who dedicate their time to make it work, and if possible I try to help out where possible. However, my previous configuration got messed up heavily somewhere
[10:42] <helio> sorry, router went down, im still under heliotrope in here at the same time i guess
[10:42] <Ng> Upayavir1: it may or may not explode on you any time between now and april
[10:42] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: but I'd like to try a bit of new stuff here and there, afterall, I spend time tweaking things
[10:43] <intelikey> hatake_kakashi hey, you know what linux users do ?
[10:43] <Upayavir1> Ng: "Explode". Interesting word. Presumably recoverable explosions. e.g. have to report a bug, wait for fix, manage without some feature until it works again, etc? Or HDD crashes? :-P
[10:43] <tortho> Upayavirl: If you plan to upgrade, help the developer with using the new upgrade tool: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[10:43] <kieran> hello every1
[10:43] <vincenz> Anyone use "dia"
[10:44] <bigfoot1> i have a url that i want to find more info about. it's in numbers and decimal points. Eg. 384.38.38.288. How do i find out more info about such a website?
[10:44] <j2daosh> !w32codecs
[10:44] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:44] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: I know they usually have the approach of, 'If its not fscked, don't fsck with it'. Is that what you were referring to?
[10:44] <NoStress> bigfoot1: this IP is not valid
[10:44] <dark`zzz> nothing about opengl?;;
[10:44] <intelikey> hatake_kakashi   they install software........     ;p
[10:44] <xvium> i just finished installing kubuntu, and my mouse is screwing up my mouse pointer seems to be about an inch away from where its accually selecting
[10:44] <bigfoot1> NoStress: 66.89.75.168
[10:44] <bigfoot1> NoStress: 66.89.75.168 is the real one.
[10:45] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: what do you mean more information?
[10:45] <xvium> what do i do :P
[10:45] <snowblink> Can anyone get the new security updates via apt?
[10:45] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: coz that's the base URL of a streaming audio file (rm/ram) file that I'm listening to.
[10:45] <Upayavir1> tortho: Noted, thanks. I'll try it.
[10:45] <hatake_kakashi> intelikey: heh, but I do more than just install :) hence that's one of the main reasons why I moved off since win2k. Moved to RH8, then SuSE Pro 8 and now this
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: I mean what sort of information? who owns that IP, etc?
[10:46] <bigfoot1> hatake_kakashi: yes. who owns that ip, and etc.
[10:46] <Enchanter_tim> hello.
[10:46] <Enchanter_tim> to report a bug in dapper, i would go to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs, right ?
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> bigfoot1: there is a tool called whois, I think it may come with ubuntu as standard, if not then you can apt-get it or get a tool from googling
[10:47] <NoStress> bigfoot1: whois IP
[10:47] <helio> SEVEAS - all i had to do is retstart THANKYOU FOR HELPING
[10:48] <xvium> can someone help me , my mouse is messed
[10:48] <Madpilot> Enchanter_tim: yes - you'll need a launchpad account
[10:48] <tortho> bigfoot1: http://www.dnsstuff.com/
[10:48] <bigfoot1> NoStress: hatake_kakashi. thanks
[10:48] <hatake_kakashi> NoStress: heh I personally prefer zoneedit's whois, its a global whois type of searcher :) you don't need to add another one etc, you just run that program and you are set
[10:48] <Enchanter_tim> Madpilot: is that hard to come by? ;)
[10:49] <Enchanter_tim> the new kernel released a couple of days ago breaks cx-office
[10:49] <Madpilot> Enchanter_tim: not at all - there should be a log in/create account link in the top right corner of the site
[10:49] <morphix> blorgh.
[10:49] <kane__> hi everybody... how do I change my MAC adress...??? Somebody told me I don't need special program but instead use ifconfig... but I haven't figured out yet... anybody knows????
[10:49] <nn_ttii> soreee semuu
[10:49] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-nettool, which depends on whois
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> kane__: maybe ifconfig howto?
[10:50] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: ahh ok, well my bad
[10:50] <nn_ttii> hiiiiii
[10:50] <dooglus> kane__: ifconfig eth0 hw ether <mac address>
[10:50] <nn_ttii> r u there
[10:50] <kane__> hatake_kakashi, i get error...
[10:50] <kane__> dooglus, thx I'll try that
[10:51] <nn_ttii> ada orang indonesia gak
[10:51] <ProfessorChaos> how do I kickstart a dapper installation from apt-get?
[10:51] <dooglus> kane__: I use a "pre-up" line in /etc/network/interfaces to do it each time the interface comes up
[10:51] <nn_ttii> loooooooooo
[10:52] <kane__> dooglus, wait a sec...
[10:52] <dooglus> ProfessorChaos: update your sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:52] <ProfessorChaos> dooglus:  I did that, but now my Xserver is all whacked out
[10:52] <dooglus> ProfessorChaos: dapper isn't ready yet
[10:52] <ProfessorChaos> dooglus:  baah, I got dapper running just fine on my other box
[10:53] <dooglus> ProfessorChaos: well done :)
[10:53] <ProfessorChaos> dooglus:  you from france?
[10:53] <kane__> dooglus, I reckon I have to disconnect... cause I get device busy error
[10:53] <dooglus> ProfessorChaos: no.  do you have any more questions at all?
[10:54] <ProfessorChaos> dooglus:  ya, any idea what I can do to make this piece of crap work?
[10:54] <dooglus> kane__: yes.  use a "pre-up" line to do it before the interface comes up
[10:54] <dooglus> ProfessorChaos: you're not giving us much to go on
[10:54] <ProfessorChaos> http://pastebin.com/555656
[10:54] <ProfessorChaos> dooglus:  http://pastebin.com/555656
[10:54] <dooglus> "whacked out" and "piece of crap" are hardly information-rich
[10:54] <JANJAN> HI HELLO
[10:54] <ProfessorChaos> dooglus:  I know
[10:54] <kane__> dooglus, ok...
[10:54] <kane__> dooglus, and thx a lot...
[10:55] <Seveas> JANJAN, please drop the caps...
[10:55] <JANJAN> ASL
[10:55] <jenda> JANJAN: And please drop the asl
[10:55] <Seveas> JANJAN, this is a support channel, no general chat place...
[10:55] <Matyasza> what is the latest gcc?
[10:55] <Seveas> 4.0.1 (or maybe even .2 now)
[10:55] <SeyToN> who can recomend me a good program for sensors?
[10:56] <Seveas> !info gcc dapper
[10:56] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.0.2-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[10:56] <JANJAN> I DONT KNOW
[10:56] <Matyasza> do you think its a good idea for me to get the latest gcc before i install the latest nvidia drivers?
[10:56] <Seveas> JANJAN, if you're not here for Ubuntu support, other channels are more suitable for you
[10:56] <JANJAN> HI HELLO
[10:56] <xerophyte> is there any documentation to setup gateway server with Ubuntu
[10:57] <kane__> dooglus, do I write it at the beginning?
[10:57] <snooze_> xerophyte: should be quite easy
[10:57] <BadBrad> Can anyone here point me in the right direction to get to use my 3G phone to dialup via usb??? please
[10:57] <AlinuxOS> Janet :) no capitals please :)
[10:57] <xerophyte> snooze_, true i need to setup this dhcpd server so others can get ips from the gateway
[10:57] <kane__> dooglus, or after iterface activation?
[10:58] <Christopher> hellochannel
[10:58] <Christopher> anyone using fluxbox desktop?
[10:58] <snooze_> xerophyte: oh yeah, that would be the only thing about this i've not made before
[10:58] <snooze_> Christopher: yes.
[10:58] <snooze_> Christopher: it's one of my absolutley favourites.
[10:58] <Christopher> good then you know alot about it then
[10:58] <snooze_> l <-> e
[10:59] <snooze_> Christopher: maybe
[10:59] <Christopher> i cant change the volume
[10:59] <dooglus> ProfessorChaos: did you try sudo bash -c "echo '83ab85c01fb6849bc0c0827fab4ca91f  -' > /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum" ?
[10:59] <snooze_> Christopher: volume of what?
[10:59] <SeyToN> anyone who use sensors here?
[10:59] <snooze_> SeyToN: lmsensors?
[10:59] <Christopher> isntthere an overalll volume of the desktop
[10:59] <Ivaldi> Christopher, the sound volume? you could try changing it in alsamixer
[10:59] <SeyToN> yeah
[11:00] <BadBrad> 3g phone users anyone, please
[11:00] <dooglus> Christopher: if you double-click the volume control you'll see more sliders
[11:00] <SeyToN> do i have downloaded?
[11:00] <snooze_> Christopher: the desktop does not produce sound at all, so why should there be a volume slider?
[11:00] <snooze_> Christopher: fluxbox has nothing to do with sound at all
[11:00] <Christopher> i mean if i play a card game
[11:00] <Christopher> its really loud
[11:00] <Christopher> and i couldnt turn it down
[11:00] <snooze_> Christopher: try using gkrellm-volume
[11:00] <xerophyte> apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq  thats says could not able to find .. am i missing some repos if so what are those ???
[11:00] <Christopher> that desklet thing
[11:01] <snooze_> Christopher: what you are looking for, is a _tool_ that _integrates_ into your fluxbox desktops.
[11:01] <Madpilot> xerophyte: do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos working?
[11:01] <Christopher> is there a file browser or explore for the directories of the such in GUI
[11:01] <snooze_> Christopher: it's not fluxbox purpose to think about how users change their soundcard volume and it's okay that way.
[11:01] <SeyToN> lmsensors its part of kernel or you gotta install it?
[11:01] <Madpilot> !sensors
[11:01] <ubotu> sensors is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[11:02] <Christopher> yeah good point
[11:02] <Madpilot> SeyToN: see the bot's URL above ^^^
[11:02] <snooze_> Christopher: as just said, if you want a windowmanager, you will get a windowmanager. go use a desktop environment instead if it doesn't satisfy you.
[11:02] <xerophyte> Madpilot, its default isntall do i have to modify something in the /etc/apt/source.list to enable them just wondering
[11:02] <snooze_> Christopher: you may want to use gkrellm-volume or a mixer dockapp from windowmaker instead.
[11:02] <Arafangion> Alright! Who used my nick this week? I demand my royalty for use!
[11:02] <Christopher> im just new to it
[11:02] <Madpilot> !tell xerophyte about repos
[11:02] <snooze_> Christopher: i recognized that :)
[11:03] <Christopher> so i was just curious if somethign was wrong or not
[11:03] <xerophyte> Madpilot,  Get:13 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages [26.1kB] 
[11:03] <xerophyte> Get:14 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages [1353B] 
[11:03] <snooze_> Christopher: there's nothing wrong with it. you just need additional software, that does the little things your window manager doesn't do.
[11:04] <Enchanter_tim> Madpilot: thanks, bug is registered :)
[11:04] <snooze_> Christopher: as just said, a windowmanager's purpose is moving windows across your desktop area and handling them in a userfriendly way.
[11:04] <Christopher> ahh i got it
[11:04] <xerophyte> Madpilot, does that means i have Universe and Multiverse are configured
[11:04] <dooglus> snooze_: you haven't tried ratpoison?
[11:04] <Madpilot> xerox: the backports aren't really needed, you just need the regular Universe/Multi
[11:04] <Madpilot> xerophyte: no
[11:04] <Christopher> so flux is more of type it up in the terminal
[11:04] <snooze_> Christopher: if you want to play mp3's you shouldn't bother fluxbox developers that there is no player integrated :)
[11:04] <snooze_> dooglus: of course.
[11:04] <hatake_kakashi> anyone tried installing kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu? (Hoary)
[11:04] <eric> seveas, are you in here?
[11:05] <Madpilot> xerophyte: copy this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[11:05] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: kubuntu and ubuntu co-exist.  you don't install one on top of the other.
[11:05] <snooze_> Christopher: i'm making customized fluxbox builds and own themes/styles for myself, especially using artwiz fonts.
[11:05] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: I'm trying to install KDE for ubuntu (which only has Gnome)
[11:05] <Christopher> wish i knew how to do that
[11:05] <Seveas> eric had patience...
[11:05] <snooze_> SeyToN: linux is _not_ easy :)
[11:06] <ProfessorChaos> how do I add gdm to my rc2.d ?
[11:06] <Christopher> ive seen some really cool themes of users sets up in the threads
[11:06] <Seveas> ProfessorChaos, the gdm package should do that for you...
[11:06] <Christopher> just cant find them
[11:06] <Christopher> is it hard to make your own themes?
[11:06] <snooze_> Christopher: http://arje.de/screenshot.jpg
[11:06] <snooze_> Christopher: that's one of mine
[11:06] <SeyToN> i used to had suse before wasnt too bad but this distro i really like it
[11:07] <snooze_> Christopher: just go ahead :)
[11:07] <Christopher> ill check it out right now
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: any clue?
[11:07] <SeyToN> the tool apt-get its awesome :
[11:07] <snooze_> SeyToN: ubuntu is just based on debian, so of course it rocks, yes :=)
[11:08] <Christopher> how do you get the windows to be transparent?
[11:08] <Prophet> heh, I thought to myself, 5 am and I'm bored where to go.... So I come here, ugh, I have like 6 hours of updates to download.... and now I'm on my 8th cup of coffee.. so I'm doing good
[11:08] <snooze_> Christopher: uhm
[11:08] <snooze_> Christopher: aterm -fg white -bg black +sb -tr -sh 30
[11:08] <snooze_> e.g.
[11:09] <Madpilot> Prophet: life is good, eh? :P
[11:09] <snooze_> Christopher: you can also made the borders transparent in fluxbox's configuration menu
[11:09] <Christopher> yeah i tried messing with that
[11:09] <snooze_> Christopher: just use a terminal emulator that supports pseudo transparency.
[11:09] <Christopher> do you set the numbers up high or really low
[11:09] <Prophet> Madpilot: Ohyah, best part is in 3 hours I have to goto school
[11:09] <snooze_> Christopher: depends on if the setting is transparency or opacity.
[11:10] <Christopher> mine says transparency but no opacity
[11:10] <snooze_> Christopher: just play around with it before you ask such questions :)
[11:11] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> heh
[11:11] <Christopher> hah
[11:11] <Christopher> yeah i tired the thing is.. nothing changes
[11:11] <Christopher> tried*
[11:11] <snooze_> Christopher: what did you try?
[11:11] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> wow, this coffee is really thick
[11:12] <hatake_kakashi> anyone tried installing kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu? (Hoary)
[11:12] <snooze_> "tory amos - smells like teen spirit" is awesome
[11:12] <Christopher> changing the alphas for the transparency setting in configurations
[11:12] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: i got it here right now.
[11:12] <Christopher> 0 to 255... for focused window, unfocused window etc
[11:12] <snooze_> Christopher: you would have to restart fluxbox
[11:12] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> snooze_: Wasn't Smells like teen spirit by Nirvana
[11:13] <snooze_> Christopher: just select restart from the menu
[11:13] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: i think it's a covered version, yes.
[11:13] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> heh
[11:13] <hatake_kakashi> snooze_: how did you get it to install? I tried installing it and it said that I have unmet dependencies, one followed by the other saying its not going to be installed, do I force the install or?
[11:13] <Christopher> hmm
[11:13] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: what's the question?  have I tried it?  yes, I have.  did it work?  yes, it did.
[11:13] <Christopher> still nothing different
[11:13] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> oh hatake_kakashi: one sec
[11:13] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install kde
[11:13] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: maybe "how?" : "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:13] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> i know whats wrong
[11:14] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> yah, snooze_ beat me too it
[11:14] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: that's all i did
[11:14] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: and it just works, i'm using kde right now.
[11:14] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> hatake_kakashi, I did that as well and almost all my dependacie crap went away
[11:14] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: I have both ubuntu and kubuntu (Hoary) on cd. I have installed ubuntu via the hoary cd, but I want apt-get to install kubuntu-desktop via kubuntu cdrom that I have. So far I have got apt-get to read the cd but it said there are unmet dependencies. Each of the packages claim that they are not to be installed
[11:15] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: the only issue was getting those 200mb's and installing them, but my connection and my pc are pretty fast.
[11:15] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> would you have to partition to install 2 versions of linux?
[11:15] <hatake_kakashi> snooze_: that's exactly my problem, hence I want to install them off the cd
[11:16] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: if you got 2 disks not.
[11:16] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> ahh
[11:16] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: cd?
[11:16] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: I guess you've updated your ubuntu installation so that it now depends on newer packages than you have on CD?
[11:16] <hatake_kakashi> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: my plan is to not to do that, I want both KDE and Gnome on one install
[11:16] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> how do you get ubuntu to reconize your secound hd
[11:16] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: uhm
[11:16] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: you don't need to.
[11:16] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: yeah, would it cause an impact?
[11:16] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: add the net sources as well as the CD sources.  it will use the CD where it can, and download what it needs to
[11:17] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: you just need a way to boot from the second hd
[11:17] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: you can investigate further - try installing one of the packages it says won't be installed.  it'll tell you why it won't be installed
[11:17] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> snooze_, okay it's that i have installed a new hd but I can't find it in ubuntu
[11:17] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: let's say by specifying which hdd is the primary boot device for your bios or by adding it to grub's menu.lst
[11:18] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: a new install to the second hd should detect the first and add those entries to the boot loader's menu.
[11:18] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: currently I have the cd as the first ones on the list, and its followed by the net ones. The last thing I want is apt-get asking to download 200MB worth of KDE files like it did last time, if that's the case, I'll probably have to wipe the hd clean and start fresh again
[11:18] <zzaza> hi all
[11:18] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: kubuntu sucks in Hoary anyway...
[11:18] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: if you want to do all that manually you have to fuck around with grub's menu.lst
[11:19] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: go get some nice breezy badger cd's for free 8)
[11:19] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: well, as of that time, I had both those cd
[11:19] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: they ship directly to your postbox for free.
[11:19] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> snooze_, I don't want to install a new linux it's that I've installed a new hd but I didn't reformat it and Bios won't reconize it... bleh I might get around to fucking with grub's menu later
[11:19] <hatake_kakashi> snooze_: o.O hmm
[11:19] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: hoary is almost a year old now - it's worth updating to breezy anyway.
[11:19] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: shipit.ubuntu.com
[11:19] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> I use breezy
[11:19] <goki-> Is "Hatake" Kakashi's first name in Naruto?
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus: I did dist-upgrade to breezy awhile ago on Kubuntu, and that caused failsafe to not work on x
[11:20] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: don't exactly know what's wrong there... sorry.
[11:20] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> meh
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> goki-: huh?
[11:20] <snooze_> bleh
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> goki-: doubt it
[11:21] <Truth> bleh all my nicks are taken
[11:22] <Al-Daja> what is happening wrong when i do cd /home/user/z and press tab and the fold don't appears in the terminal?
[11:22] <TylerDurden> omfg
[11:22] <Seveas> Al-Daja, it's /home/z
[11:22] <NoStress> Al-Daja: because there is more than one file/folder that start with z ?
[11:22] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> I'll just stick with this for now
[11:23] <hatake_kakashi> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: you'd be surprised names can be taken very easily :)
[11:23] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> apperently
[11:23] <ewz> hi
[11:23] <hatake_kakashi> Google for your name :) you'd be surprised for sure, like I did
[11:24] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> wow
[11:24] <goki-> hatake_kakashi, ah ok sorry, I thought you were named after the Naruto character
[11:24] <Al-Daja> Seveas:  NoStress  the fold is inside of user
[11:24] <goki-> hatake_kakashi, I was gonna ash you about the secret of the Sharingan Mirror Wheel Eye, but now I see that would be pointless
[11:24] <farous> welcomed
[11:24] <Alpha> hello all
[11:24] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> is there a way to log into the root account from the startup login meun?
[11:24] <NoStress> Al-Daja: what happen if you hit tab twice (quickly) 6c?
[11:24] <hatake_kakashi> goki-: apparently, that is where I got the nick from, but no, its not the first neither is it the main character. It was the teacher/lecturer for Naruto
[11:24] <hatake_kakashi> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: you mean the GUI interface?
[11:24] <Alpha> what the command can i use to "raceroute" in Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[11:25] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> yep
[11:25] <Al-Daja> nothing happens NoStress
[11:25] <Alpha> "traceroute" i mean
[11:25] <hatake_kakashi> snooze_: btw, thanks for that heads up, I need to look around more next time :)
[11:25] <bimberi> Alpha: tracepath
[11:25] <snooze_> Al-Daja: sudo apt-cache search traceroute
[11:25] <snooze_> hatake_kakashi: np :)
[11:25] <hatake_kakashi> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: its not possible, they did that is to prevent you from running everything as root
[11:25] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> damn
[11:25] <hatake_kakashi> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: correction, you can but I wouldn't do it
[11:26] <ph1qt10n> is there anything better than gdesklets? i want to launch programs 'a la macosx
[11:26] <SeyToN> how to make a file executable? chmod?
[11:26] <hatake_kakashi> and thanks to dooglus as well :)
[11:26] <Madpilot> Alpha: install the traceroute package - I don't think it's installed by default
[11:26] <Seveas> chmod +x file
[11:26] <hatake_kakashi> Seveas: yes
[11:26] <snooze_> traceroute - traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network
[11:26] <hatake_kakashi> blah
[11:26] <Madpilot> !info traceroute
[11:26] <hatake_kakashi> oh well
[11:26] <ubotu> traceroute: (traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network), section net, is optional. Version: 1.4a12-18 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 104 kB
[11:26] <SeyToN> cheers
[11:26] <hatake_kakashi> SeyToN: what Seveas said
[11:26] <zzaza> need a program to make a vcd using my pics with music in the background i.e a slideshow
[11:27] <ph1qt10n> is there anything better than gdesklets? i want to launch programs 'a la macosx
[11:28] <steve60> hi there
[11:29] <steve60> anyone know how to log in as root in the gui so i can delete locked folders
[11:29] <Madpilot> !tell ph1qt10n about patience
[11:29] <Madpilot> steve60: use sudo, either on the command line or lauch Nautilus w/ gksudo
[11:29] <Al-Daja> thx Seveas  NoStress  and snooze_  the only problem is the ubuntu have to know that is in Z not z lolol
[11:29] <NoStress> Al-Daja: :)
[11:29] <steve60> cheers mad
[11:30] <snooze_> Al-Daja: unix case sensitivy
[11:30] <Al-Daja> NoStress: didn't expect that one
[11:30] <snooze_> +it
[11:30] <Al-Daja> snooze_: know now
[11:30] <steve60> w/ gksudo
[11:30] <steve60> not working
[11:31] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> with traceroute can you use that to trace a remote ip?
[11:31] <Madpilot> steve60: open a terminal, type "gksudo nautilus" - when it asks for a pw, use your regular user pw
[11:32] <leveny> hi. my sound stopped working after i messed up my sudoer. i fixed the sudoer but not the sound. any help would be appreciated.
[11:32] <lixus> hello, i get cdrom errors during install using the powerpc image at http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/
[11:33] <Madpilot> steve60: safer by far is to use "rm" in the terminal...
[11:33] <lixus> does this http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/dapper-install-powerpc.OVERSIZED mean it does not find on a normal disk ?
[11:33] <lixus> s/find/fit/
[11:33] <Alpha> how to play mp3 in ubuntu music player if my mp3 in windows harddisk ?
[11:33] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> I wonder what would happen if I put coffee in my coffee machine instead of water?
[11:33] <ita> hi all .. i have problems configuring evolution with exchange connector .. i am only asked for username .. i cant enter owa and exchange server ip .. im running kubuntu 5.1 / evo 2.4 - all installed today so im up2date i hope - anyone can help me a sec ?
[11:34] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: you just would geht highly conenctrated caffeine
[11:34] <snooze_> [] 2[[] ] [[] ] T: i did it some times :)
[11:34] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> well I have had the coffee put sitting for like 10 hours so that the water boils out
[11:34] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> brb
[11:34] <Angel_Dex> hum
[11:36] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> i hope my coffee machine won't fuck up
[11:36] <Alpha> how to play mp3 in ubuntu music player if my mp3 in windows folder ??
[11:36] <GigaClon> mount the windows drive
[11:36] <GigaClon> !mount
[11:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:36] <GigaClon> !windows
[11:36] <ubotu> [windows]  unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[11:36] <farous> !+find skim
[11:36] <[] 2[[] ] [[] ] T> lol
[11:37] <steve60> how do i remove a Dir from the home when it's locked
[11:37] <ProfessorChaos> hey I was trying to edit my /etc/sudoers file and now it won't let me edit it because I changed the permissions from 0440 to 0777
[11:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'skim' (4 shown; 6 total): (/usr/share/apache2/icons/{diskimg.gif|diskimg.png}) in net/apache2-common ;; (/usr/share/enlightenment/E-docs/E_deskimg.png) in universe/x11/enlightenment-data ;; (/usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/icons/{diskimg.gif|diskimg.png}) in doc/apache2-doc ;; (/usr/share/apache/icons/{diskimg.gif|diskimg.png}) in universe/web/apache-common.
[11:37] <ProfessorChaos> i'm an idiot please help me!
[11:37] <snooze_> i won't help idiots :)
[11:37] <GigaClon> sudo gedit?
[11:37] <Ng> ProfessorChaos: so chmod it back
[11:37] <Ng> ProfessorChaos: and generally don't edit the sudoers file
[11:37] <CryoTox> Oh yah
[11:38] <NoStress> ProfessorChaos: you'd better use visudo to edit sudo
[11:38] <ProfessorChaos> sudo chmod 777 /etc/sudoers
[11:38] <ProfessorChaos> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[11:39] <steve60> mudpilot how do i remove a Dir from the home dir
[11:39] <bimberi> goodness me
[11:39] <kevin> how to create a su password? sudo passwd and something else....?
[11:39] <Ng> ProfessorChaos: I mean sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[11:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell steve60 about tab
[11:39] <Ng> ProfessorChaos: you really don't want the file to be 777
[11:40] <ProfessorChaos> $ sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[11:40] <ProfessorChaos> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[11:40] <Ng> ProfessorChaos: but of course you've broken sudo now, so you'll have to reboot into recovery mode to do it
[11:40] <Madpilot> steve60: was that for me? in any case, read "man rm"
[11:40] <Alpha> why ubuntu cant reject ICMP packet ?
[11:40] <steve60> OK THANX
[11:40] <kevin> its a short command word but i cant remember its like sudo passwd and something else :\
[11:40] <Ng> Alpha: err, it can
[11:40] <ProfessorChaos> Ng:  gotcha
[11:40] <snooze_> i recommend everyone to use a real root account additionally because of things like this :)
[11:40] <Ng> Alpha: are yo usure you want to though?
[11:41] <Madpilot> snooze_: recommeding not editing your sudoers file would be even better :P
[11:41] <CryoTox> one thing that turned me onto Ubuntu; when I was using Windows my audio card wouldn't work... I switched it's perfect now
[11:41] <Alpha> if i type always get error Bad argument `icmp'
[11:41] <Alpha> yapz
[11:41] <snooze_> Madpilot: yeah, you're goddamn right :)
[11:41] <Ng> Alpha: what are you typing?
[11:42] <snooze_> CryoTox: what kind of audio card is that?
[11:42] <ita> my evolution keeps saying it cant connect to exchange connector .. a ps aux | grep evo shows it is not running though i installed it and its in /usr/lib/evolution/2.4/evolution-exchange-connector .. how do i activate/start the connector ?!
[11:42] <CryoTox> hehe my super coffee is brewing
[11:42] <snooze_> CryoTox: lol
[11:43] <CryoTox> damn school
[11:43] <snooze_> CryoTox: just don't forget to clean your coffee machine later.
[11:43] <snooze_> CryoTox: i have to go to the hospital in an hour
[11:43] <CryoTox> damn
[11:43] <snooze_> CryoTox: that even sucks more
[11:43] <snooze_> :)
[11:43] <CryoTox> snooze_: but in the hospital you get medi-masks
[11:44] <CryoTox> snooze_: omg I got past my schools barriers yesterday
[11:44] <steve60> Madpilot, i tried rm -d but it keeps telling me that its a Dir and cannot be removed
[11:44] <CryoTox> stupid Microsoft
[11:44] <steve60> Madpilot, and im logged in under root aswell
[11:45] <CryoTox> snooze_: All I had to do was unplug the network cable before it loaded the barriers
[11:45] <CryoTox> lmfao
[11:45] <farous> steve60: rm -rf to remove dir
[11:45] <steve60> Madpilot, i know this is a just a simple task but im learning bit by bit ehehe
[11:45] <steve60> oh
[11:45] <steve60> cheers
[11:45] <CryoTox> my friend beside me was like, "wtf, that makes no sense, wheres you logic???"
[11:45] <CryoTox> it was great
[11:45] <Ng> but offtopic here :)
[11:46] <paquin> Does any1 know about issues with wireless networks??
[11:46] <CryoTox> sorry
[11:46] <steve60> cheers
[11:46] <Ng> CryoTox: please feel free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic though :)
[11:46] <n4cht> i know that wireless + linux = the devil.
[11:46] <Madpilot> steve60: if you're really running root (why?) be careful with rm -rf, it'll erase anything you tell it too...
[11:46] <Ng> CryoTox: this place is just too busy for help and chatting ;)
[11:46] <CryoTox> heh
[11:46] <CryoTox> I'm there
[11:46] <steve60> farous, in the Manual in the terminal under "man rm" it says use -d to remove dirs
[11:46] <Alpha> thanks, ng
[11:46] <paquin> really??
[11:46] <Alpha> i was success about that
[11:47] <kentling> I have an installation on laptops question...
[11:47] <Alpha> i just type wrong command
[11:47] <paquin> ubuntu does not activate automatically my wireless connection
[11:47] <farous> steve60: that is right if the dir is not empty
[11:47] <Alpha> :D
[11:47] <paquin> i mean
[11:47] <farous> steve60: sorry ment if empty
[11:47] <paquin> i have to deactivate/reactivate everytime i start ubuntu
[11:47] <steve60> now i done the rm -rf how'd i log back out of root
[11:48] <Christopher> paquin, look into ndiswrapper i think its called
[11:48] <farous> hmm steve60 how did you login to root
[11:48] <CryoTox> sudo +s +H ???
[11:48] <steve60> su
[11:48] <CryoTox> lol
[11:48] <Seveas> sudo -i
[11:48] <kentling> Is it possible to install all ubuntu with desktop packages without downloading them? (I.e., are they all on the CD?)
[11:48] <paquin> where's ndiswrapper???
[11:48] <Christopher> paquin, im having the same prob trying to get my working too.. im still trying to learn
[11:48] <paquin> ok
[11:49] <steve60> thankx guys
[11:49] <ita> uh .. i "adept"ed evolution-exchange - should i rather use ximian ? or they identical ?
[11:49] <Christopher> search for it in yoru synaptic package manager and mark for install then apply
[11:49] <paquin> i guess we'll have to wait til the new release
[11:49] <steve60> Thanks ppl
[11:49] <steve60> seeya
[11:49] <GigaClon> kentling, you should be able to, thats what happends when you install the first time
[11:50] <Madpilot> ita: evolution-exchange is in the Ubuntu repos - why didn't you just apt-get it?
[11:50] <ita> i apt-get it
[11:50] <kentling> gigaclon: Yes, but It hangs on 5% of packages installed, and it looks like it is looking for an internet connection.
[11:51] <kentling> gigaclon: this is on a laptop.
[11:51] <Madpilot> ita: yeah, sorry, I mis-read your original sentence...
[11:51] <paquin> see ya
[11:51] <Christopher> im trying to change my wall paper and done it unsuccessfully
[11:51] <paquin> thanks
[11:51] <paquin> going to bed
[11:51] <ita> i even created account and chose "microsoft exchange" as type .. but i still get "cannot connect to exchange server" a ps aux tells me there is noch "*exchange*" named process running .. im quite lost at the moment
[11:51] <Christopher> anyone know how to do that
[11:51] <Sonobana> i have a major problem with x
[11:51] <kentling> And now it is giving me KBC error on powerup...
[11:52] <ita> i also have NO idea what to enter at username with the exchange config .. really just username ? no need for exchange server ip and so on ?!
[11:52] <paquin> ooohhh
[11:52] <bimberi> Christopher: right-click on the desktop, select 'Change Desktop Background'
[11:53] <paquin> i forgot
[11:53] <Christopher> i opened the start up script for fluxbox in gedit and found the line of code to put my wallpaper location at and saved it
[11:53] <paquin> is there a way to write into ntfs partitions???
[11:53] <ita> i have installed evolution / evolution-exchange and libexchange-storage1.2
[11:53] <paquin> or allow other users to do it??
[11:53] <bimberi> Christopher: ignore that if you're using flux
[11:53] <Christopher> bimberi, im using fluxbox
[11:53] <Alpha> can we as a root deactive console to user ?
[11:53] <bimberi> Christopher: beatya :)
[11:53] <Christopher> hehe yes you did by a millisecond
[11:53] <utku> hi. aptitude search mysql-admin gives me nothing. where can i find this package for ubuntu?
[11:54] <Christopher> do you know how to with flux
[11:54] <Christopher> i know how to.. but its not working
[11:54] <bimberi> Christopher: no sorry :/
[11:54] <paquin> is there a way to write into ntfs partitions???
[11:54] <Christopher> its ok noones perfect ;)
[11:54] <paquin> via ubuntu??
[11:54] <Christopher> paquin,  nope
[11:54] <jebus_> hey who can give me a plugin for my browser to play mp3
[11:55] <farous> what do you wana do with fluxbox
[11:55] <GigaClon> paquin, yes but its very dangeous
[11:55] <kevin> how come i cant do graphical login as a root i wont be using the net i know its unsecure but i really need to
[11:55] <paquin> ok Christopher thanks
[11:55] <Ng> !root
[11:55] <paquin> why is it dangerous giga??
[11:55] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:55] <Ng> kevin: ^^
[11:55] <kevin> hi ng
[11:55] <GigaClon> paquin, NTFS is scrwy
[11:55] <Alpha> hmm,.
[11:55] <kevin> anyone can help me with the graphical login as a root?
[11:55] <paquin> i know
[11:55] <grayman> you dont use root
[11:56] <Christopher> wouldnt that be hard to do. i though linux only reads NTFS file structures
[11:56] <grayman> you use sudo instead
[11:56] <jebus_> does anyone have myspace
[11:56] <kevin> i wont be using the net
[11:56] <Madpilot> kevin: Ng just gave you a URL...
[11:56] <Christopher> but notwrite to them
[11:56] <Ng> kevin: my ^^ was pointing you upwards to a url
[11:56] <paquin> but
[11:56] <GigaClon> !tell kevin about root
[11:56] <bimberi> kevin: System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup, Security tab 'Allow root to login with GDM'
[11:56] <utku> anyone know why i cannot see the mysql-admin package in my packages?
[11:56] <Christopher> what are you trying to do
[11:56] <paquin> i want to set emule to my common media file on xp
[11:56] <utku> i have universe and multiverse open as wlel.
[11:56] <jebus_> I need to know a plugin to make the media play
[11:57] <GigaClon> paquin for all intents and purposes you can't write to NTFS
[11:57] <Christopher> would FAT32 work with doing that?
[11:57] <rics> Hey all
[11:57] <farous> sniff would you prefer to use the pastebin and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to have a look at it
[11:57] <paquin> ok
[11:57] <paquin> well
[11:57] <paquin> thanks again
[11:57] <rics> Anyone here know the URL of that site that have a linux/tux logo like the OSCAR logo?
[11:57] <paquin> see ya
[11:57] <snooze_> ok - master question, level hard: i want to combine 2 sound card channel sliders so that moving one of the sliders would affect 2 channels (left and right are seperated with my soundcard), any suggestion?
[11:58] <GigaClon> paquin what I do is have 5 GB NTFS partition, 10 GB Linux and 15GB FAT32
[11:58] <kevin> bimberi kevin: System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup, Security tab 'Allow root to login with GDM<---- -cheers
[11:58] <Christopher> rics, www.oscarmayer.com
[11:58] <paquin> ok
[11:58] <Christopher> heh
[11:58] <paquin> and writing into fat32 right??
[11:58] <GigaClon> yeah
[11:58] <Christopher> well what i did
[11:58] <rics> Christopher, nope... :(((
[11:59] <Christopher> i have my linux and windows on the same drive so i made a fat32 partition to share my media between the two OSs
[11:59] <paquin> well that's a good idea
[11:59] <GigaClon> one thing that bit me in the rear is that Azureus doesn't like to write to a drive other than the one its installed on
[11:59] <paquin> i'll try that
[11:59] <paquin> thanks again
[11:59] <Christopher> anytime
[12:00] <paquin> good night to all
[12:00] <bimberi> utku: it's in universe, did you apt-get update after enabling those repositories
[12:00] <bimberi> ?
[12:01] <JoeBlow> i burnt a bootable cd using gnome baker, and it doesnt seem to boot into it, and ive checked and the burn was successfull, any ideas?
[12:01] <utku> bimberi: it should be updated.... lemme check once again just in case
[12:01] <GigaClon> is the Boot Order correct
[12:01] <Christopher> JoeBlow, what did you burn
[12:01] <GigaClon> can you boot into other CD's?
[12:02] <JoeBlow> Christopher, its windows xp 32 bit, no im not pirating, its for work,  we have one of those network liscenses, boss asked me to burn a copy
[12:02] <Christopher> whatspeed did you burn it?
[12:02] <JoeBlow> Christopher, 10x
[12:02] <Alpha> how to edit other user access if we are run as a root ?
[12:02] <JoeBlow> Christopher, on a 16x burner
[12:02] <Christopher> might be too fast for an iso
[12:02] <Christopher> i burn my cd images at 4x to make sure there are no errors
[12:02] <mammadori> hi all, there is a channel for livecd development, I would like to help
[12:03] <mammadori> ?
[12:03] <JoeBlow> Christopher, ok ill try a different speed, but are their any settings i need to do , i have it set to burnfree off, dummy write off, mode disabled
[12:03] <Christopher> and i also do a md5sum check after i burn it onto cd by making an iso off the burnt cd then comparing
[12:03] <JoeBlow> Christopher, ooops mode default
[12:03] <Madpilot> mammadori: try #ubuntu-devel
[12:03] <JoeBlow> Christopher, how do i do that`
[12:03] <utku> bimberi: duh. i thought it was updated....... turns out it isnt.
[12:03] <utku> bimberi: should have never asked that question.... thanks anyways.
[12:04] <bimberi> utku: no problem whatsoever :) - glad it worked out
[12:05] <CryTox> my hand is sooo twitchy
[12:05] <mammadori> Madpilot: trying, tnx
[12:05] <CryTox> oh, and also how do you use traceroute?
[12:05] <JoeBlow> Christopher, how do i compare it to the iso?
[12:05] <Christopher> JoeBlow, not totally sure on the exact software in linux to use to make the iso i know there are some
[12:06] <Christopher> you can try reading http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BurningIsoHowto.
[12:06] <JoeBlow> Christopher, ok, thnx
[12:06] <Christopher> JoeBlow, right now i do most of my multimedia tasks on windows
[12:07] <Christopher> i use Ultra iso to burn my  isos.. and to extract the isos from the burned disk
[12:07] <CryoTox> Does anyone know how too?
[12:07] <JoeBlow> Christopher, ok
[12:07] <Christopher> i also use a program called MD5SUM.exe that shows you the MD5SUM value of the isos
[12:08] <Christopher> if they are different then it didnt burn right... usually again because of speed
[12:08] <Madpilot> CryoTox: it's a terminal app - open a terminal and type "man traceroute" for the manual
[12:08] <bimberi> CryoTox: 'traceroute <ip address or domain name>' - eg. traceroute google.com    (in a terminal)
[12:08] <CryoTox> okay
[12:09] <JoeBlow> does anyone here know how to extract a iso from a disk?
[12:09] <bimberi> CryoTox: BTW, Traceroute is available in Applications -> System Tools -> Network Tools
[12:10] <NoStress> JoeBlow: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[12:10] <Sonobana> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/samuli/.serverauth.5572
[12:10] <Sonobana> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/samuli/.Xauthority
[12:10] <Sonobana> X: unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[12:10] <Sonobana> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[12:10] <Sonobana> xinit:  Server error.
[12:10] <Sonobana> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/samuli/.Xauthority
[12:10] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: there was a big security problem with KDE recently wasn't there - could it just be that your CD has vulnerable packages on it, and that's why the install is wanting to download new, fixed packages instead?
[12:10] <Sonobana> sori paste mut turhan hankala kytt pastebinia consolemodissa
[12:10] <Madpilot> !paste
[12:10] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:11] <bimberi> !xhangs
[12:11] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[12:11] <dooglus> JoeBlow: dd if=/dev/hdc of=file.iso
[12:12] <Christopher> dd yeah thats it!
[12:12] <JoeBlow> dooglus, ok thanks
[12:13] <Christopher> anyone use flux?
[12:13] <farous> Christopher: fluxbox
[12:13] <farous> yap
[12:13] <JoeBlow> dooglus, are their any settings i need to make to make the disk bootable
[12:14] <GigaClon> JoeBlow, make sure your BIOS Boot Order Setting are in the right order
[12:14] <Christopher> farous, yeah
[12:14] <GigaClon> CD before HDD
[12:14] <dooglus> JoeBlow: that will be in the .iso I guess
[12:15] <farous> so what do you want to do with fluxbox Christopher
[12:15] <Christopher> farous, im trying to set a wallpaper.. i opened up flux start up script found the path where i put the destination of my wallpaper
[12:15] <Christopher> saved it.. and nothing happens
[12:15] <farous> Christopher: ok in ubuntu we have the fbsetroot not the bsetroot command
[12:15] <farous> so just change that in the startup
[12:16] <farous> yw:)
[12:16] <JoeBlow> dooglus, should the check take a long time?
[12:16] <Alpha> !doc-user
[12:16] <ubotu> Alpha: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:16] <Madpilot> Alpha: what are you looking for?
[12:17] <Christopher> actually its bsetbg
[12:17] <Christopher> so its actually fbsetbg -f?
[12:17] <farous> Christopher: change it to fbsetbg
[12:17] <Christopher> bsetbg -f /Desktop/globe02.jpg
[12:17] <Alpha> i want to know how to edit access to my user
[12:17] <Christopher> thats the line
[12:17] <GigaClon> lol @ ubotu
[12:17] <farous> Christopher: ok let me check it agin i might have added an alias for it
[12:18] <Christopher> ill change it to see though
[12:18] <Alpha> can you tell me ?
[12:18] <farous> Christopher: change the bsetvg command to fbsetbg
[12:18] <Alpha> i want all of user cant use 'crontab'
[12:21] <Christopher> well i changed the bsetbg -f to fbsetbg and i restarted and the screen flashed wierd
[12:21] <Christopher> and didnt do anythign else haha
[12:21] <dorel> with all the problem revolving around laptops with acpi, dsdt and all that, cant we come up with a custom kernel for laptops?
[12:21] <farous> Christopher: can you use the pastebin to paste your start up script
[12:22] <farous> ok :)
[12:22] <dorel> i want to get a laptop and im seeing that for almost every laptop brand there are problems that require kernel re-compiliation, configs, etc to make everything work
[12:22] <dooglus> JoeBlow: check?  we were talking about making an .iso, not checking something
[12:22] <a2xm> hi all... i'm trying to setup SWAT here.. how to restart the xinetd? ubuntu using xinetd right?
[12:22] <dooglus> JoeBlow: I think you've got me mixed up with someone else
[12:23] <farous> dorel: that is not true i have two laptops here never needed to compile kernel
[12:23] <dorel> farous: what brands and model?
[12:23] <farous> dorel: and check the hardware support you will find custom ubuntu for some HP laptop models
[12:23] <JoeBlow> dooglus, dd if=/dev/hdc of=file.iso compares the files right?
[12:23] <Nameeater> does gtksu not like dvorak keyboard layout setting?
[12:24] <dorel> farous: ive been looking on dell inspiron 6000, latitude d610, acer aspire 1692 and 1695, lg ls55 - all of those require some kernel struggling like booting with acpi=off and stuff like that
[12:24] <Nameeater> a2xm: ubuntu doesn't come with xinetd by default, you have to install it
[12:24] <dooglus> JoeBlow: no, dd copies an input file (if=) to an output file (of=).  in this case it copies the CD to a .iso file
[12:24] <dorel> farous: im not ruling out of everything. ofcourse some laptops work out-of-the-box (still not everything but most of it) i agree. but for most laptops some more struggling is required.
[12:24] <JoeBlow> dooglus, ahh shit, i bet i fucke dup the iso
[12:24] <Christopher> got some kind of error
[12:25] <xerophyte> could somebody help me with my interenet share?? inet ==>[public ip]  Router[192.168.0.1]  ==>[192.168.0.102] linux Server [what ip should i configure this ]  ==>router ==> [what ip should be this ] labtop  , i have all stuff instaled iptables, dhcpserver, forward enabled, linux 2.6.12
[12:25] <farous> dorel: go with hp / compaq <first notebook i have is compaq needed ndiswrappwe thought> second is ibm but let me fetch the hardware custom ubuntu built for you
[12:25] <Christopher> ok who was just helping me with the background code
[12:25] <farous> Christopher: can you use the pastebin to paste your start up script
[12:26] <Christopher> never used pastebin before
[12:26] <farous> !paste
[12:26] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:27] <Christopher> farous, i think i found the prob
[12:27] <a2xm> Nameeater, so I just apt-get xinetd?
[12:27] <Christopher> /usr/bin/fbsetroot -solid black
[12:27] <dorel> farous: i mostly want to go for dell or acer cause i get very good stuff with those brands.
[12:27] <dooglus> JoeBlow: sorry if I told you the wrong thing.  I was answering this: "12:09 < JoeBlow> does anyone here know how to extract a iso from a disk?"
[12:28] <dorel> farous: whats your hp model?
[12:28] <Nameeater> a2xm: sudo apt-get imstall xinetd
[12:28] <farous> Christopher: that is not a background lol
[12:28] <JoeBlow> dooglus, yea no problem
[12:28] <JoeBlow> dooglus, just gotta call my boss and get him to bring that disk back over
[12:28] <farous> dorel: check this link then
[12:28] <Christopher> yeah but that usr/bin/fbsetroot didnt have the # in front of it
[12:28] <farous> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:29] <Christopher> and the bsetfg -f had the # in front of it
[12:29] <a2xm> Nameeater, wait... i'll try
[12:29] <farous> Christopher: i do not think i can help unless i see th startup file
[12:29] <Christopher> so should i put a # in front of the usr/bin/fbsetroot code
[12:29] <Christopher> alright let me get that pastbin thing...
[12:30] <Nameeater> install*
[12:30] <Christopher> what do i do.. download something?
[12:30] <CryoTox> shiiit, Abuse is a crazy game
[12:30] <Christopher> from that paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:30] <GigaClon> Abuse?
[12:31] <CryoTox> Game you can download
[12:31] <a2xm> Nameeater, and then after I install it?
[12:31] <GigaClon> from repos?
[12:31] <farous> Christopher: go to the website and just past it there
[12:31] <CryoTox> You can get it from Add apps
[12:31] <farous> dorel: sorry could not find the link for hp laptops
[12:32] <Christopher> im there i pasted it now what
[12:32] <poningru> what?
[12:32] <Christopher> do i submit it or something
[12:32] <poningru> someone called?
[12:32] <poningru> guess not
[12:32] <CryoTox> Who you gonna call>
[12:32] <poningru> me?
[12:32] <Nameeater> a2xm: add the stuff to the /etc/xinet.conf file
[12:32] <CryoTox> GHOST BUSTERS!!!
[12:32] <poningru> anyone need any help?
[12:33] <Christopher> it just has a send button
[12:33] <CryoTox> not at the moment
[12:33] <Christopher> and a name box
[12:33] <poningru> cool
[12:33] <Matyasza> ola
[12:33] <Nameeater> I have to go to bed now sorry
[12:33] <poningru> hola mattbaron
[12:33] <poningru> err
[12:33] <poningru> Matyasza:
[12:33] <CryoTox> okay I have a problem.... FireFox won't open any pages
[12:33] <Matyasza> hi poningru
[12:34] <Christopher> farous,  now what.. are you going to search for it?
[12:34] <poningru> CryoTox: really?
[12:34] <CryoTox> yah
[12:34] <ablyss> use opera
[12:35] <poningru> CryoTox: quick test
[12:35] <Matyasza> is your gateway set?
[12:35] <poningru> CryoTox: go to your home folder
[12:35] <poningru> first close firefox and everything
[12:35] <CryoTox> yah
[12:35] <poningru> associated with it
[12:35] <poningru> like chatzilla etc.
[12:35] <farous> dorel here is the link http://www.ubuntu.com/download/derivatives/hp
[12:36] <CryoTox> and then?
[12:36] <farous> Christopher: just give me the link
[12:36] <poningru> CryoTox: now go to home folder and rename .mozilla to something like real mozilla
[12:36] <poningru> err realmozilla
[12:36] <poningru> or something
[12:36] <CryoTox> okay
[12:36] <poningru> start up firefox
[12:36] <ProfessorChaos> any idea why I can't play divx5 xine
[12:36] <ProfessorChaos> in xine*
[12:36] <poningru> can you visit anything?
[12:36] <Christopher> farous, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8696
[12:36] <Christopher> i have my pic saved to my desktop
[12:37] <CryoTox> no
[12:37] <farous> ok will check it Christopher
[12:37] <SeyToN> anyone from australia? i need urgent the source.list please
[12:37] <poningru> CryoTox: it didnt work?
[12:38] <poningru> CryoTox: go and install epiphany from synaptic or apt-get
[12:38] <CryoTox> nope
[12:38] <poningru> apt-get install ephiphany
[12:38] <poningru> iirc
[12:39] <farous> Christopher: ok i modified it and here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8697
[12:39] <CryoTox> omg I was putting sudo apt-get
[12:39] <CryoTox> E: Couldn't find package ephiphany
[12:40] <farous> you needed to uncomment the fbsetbg command
[12:40] <scu> how in ubuntu I modify my env variable ?
[12:40] <mwOnLinux> SeyToN, try this: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:40] <Christopher> thank ya kindly sir
[12:41] <farous> more then welcomed my friend :)
[12:41] <farous> christopher it would be better to download a whole theme
[12:41] <farous> let me give you a link
[12:41] <CryoTox> I'm going to re-boot
[12:42] <SeyToN> cheers
[12:43] <Christopher> it didnt work
[12:43] <farous> Christopher: check this web site http://www.juanha.com/flux.htm
[12:44] <farous> Christopher: ok in a terminal type which fbsetbg
[12:45] <GigaClon> I find that fluxbox is a bit too minimal for my tastes
[12:46] <farous> GigaClon: it is perfect here check the themes here and tell me how you can say this is minimal ;) http://www.juanha.com/flux.htm
[12:46] <Appelflap> so, erm, im cloning a hd with dd
[12:46] <Appelflap> do i need to see anything?
[12:46] <Appelflap> or do i just see an finished msg after a few hours?
[12:46] <GigaClon> well, out of the box
[12:47] <GigaClon> I start it up and its just the task bar no menus or anything
[12:47] <GigaClon> and I have yet to find a guide that explains it well enough
[12:47] <farous> GigaClon: the menus are activated by right clicking the mouse
[12:47] <farous> which i think more convinient
[12:48] <a2xm> Nameeater, you mean /etc/inetd.conf ?
[12:48] <Christopher> ok i did that
[12:48] <GigaClon> i'll stick with GNOME for the time being
[12:48] <CryoTox> meh, works now
[12:48] <CryoTox> I'm off to d/l updates
[12:48] <farous> Christopher: you do not need to logout and in just from the menu select restart fluxbox
[12:49] <Christopher> i know
[12:49] <Christopher> i got an error
[12:49] <Christopher> i had to shut everythign down
[12:49] <Christopher> the screens went black
[12:49] <farous> Christopher: ok so is it working now
[12:49] <Christopher> no
[12:49] <Christopher> i think i might of messed something up in the file
[12:49] <a2xm> hi, anybody knows how to setting up SWAT?
[12:50] <Christopher> is it called source
[12:50] <Christopher> or source file
[12:50] <Christopher> when i save it
[12:50] <farous> did you compile fluxbox
[12:50] <j2daosh> i need help
[12:50] <j2daosh> lol
[12:50] <Scarborough> Im using ubuntu. if I want to change to kubuntu, how do I do that?
[12:50] <j2daosh> i cant get my gdm to port to my remote computer...
[12:50] <Christopher> !paste
[12:50] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:50] <farous> Christopher: all we did is change the background command in the startup file that hardly would cause a reason to shutdown
[12:51] <Christopher> it didnt shut down
[12:51] <Christopher> but my opened windows all dissappeared except for the top bars
[12:51] <dooglus> Scarborough: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[12:52] <Christopher> and the only way to see the windows again was to hit restart but it would show them for about a second and then disappear again
[12:52] <farous> ok Christopher you could have just logged out and in again
[12:52] <Scarborough> dooglus, do I change from ubuntu to kubuntu then?
[12:52] <dooglus> Scarborough: that installs all the packages you need for kubuntu
[12:52] <j2daosh> anyone familiar enough with freenx to tell me why i cant port the gdm?
[12:52] <farous> Christopher: did you put the & at the end of the fbestbg command ?
[12:52] <dooglus> Scarborough: you will see 'KDE' in the session menu when you log in.  GNOME will still be there too.
[12:53] <Scarborough> dooglus, if I do that, do I keep everything on my computer that I have now?
[12:54] <dooglus> Scarborough: yes
[12:54] <Scarborough> dooglus, its just like any other application?
[12:54] <Christopher> yeah
[12:54] <dooglus> Scarborough: you'll have ubuntu and kubuntu, and you choose between them when you log in.
[12:54] <dooglus> Scarborough: it's not an application, it's more like a desktop environment
[12:54] <Christopher> i saved it to my home directory also so i tried /home/globe.jpg and nothing
[12:54] <dooglus> Scarborough: it will be several hundred megabytes of packages to download
[12:55] <Scarborough> dooglus, ok, but it doesn change anyting besides the desktop?
[12:55] <dooglus> Christopher: your home directory is /home/christopher, not just /home
[12:55] <Christopher> this what i have /usr/bin/fbsetroot -f /home/globe.jpg &
[12:55] <elkbuntu> Scarborough, it's like having vi and gedit for text editing, and telling the file which program to open up in... your session is the text file and gnome and kde are vi and gedit
[12:55] <dooglus> Scarborough: it gives you a whole new set of applications - konqueror instead of nautilus, kmail instead of evolution, etc.
[12:56] <farous> Christopher: look at dooglus comment
[12:56] <dooglus> Christopher: open a terminal and type   echo $HOME
[12:56] <alfredo> como va haser
[12:56] <dooglus> Christopher: that will tell you the path to your home directory.  add /globe.jpg to the end of that
[12:56] <farous> Christopher: you can also type ~/globe.jpg &
[12:56] <sumedha_> Hi, I'm trying to access X programs from a remote server. I have set my display appropriately. "xhost +" is done. But inspite of that, I am unable to get the display on my screen. What else must I do ?
[12:57] <Christopher> i changed it to /home/christopher/globe.jpg and still nothing
[12:57] <dooglus> probably just globe.jpg & is enough - since the script is probably already 'cd'ed' to your home
[12:57] <Christopher> i think i changed the sources files name
[12:57] <dooglus> Christopher: I was guessing at the 'christopher' bit - it should be your username
[12:57] <Christopher> the start up files name i mean
[12:57] <lockhead> is there a program to write man pages?
[12:57] <Christopher> dooglus,  you got it right
[12:57] <Christopher> but i changed that and still doesnt work
[12:58] <mirak> is there a tool to resynch audio and video as well as adjust frame rate on linux ? Something like virtualdub I am looking for
[12:58] <dooglus> Christopher: try typing just that line in a terminal.  does it set your wallpaper?  or what happens?
[12:58] <farous> sumedha_: did you enable xcmb ah i forgot its name i normally use ssh -X username@hostname
[12:58] <sumedha_> I'm on a telnet session.
[12:59] <Christopher> is the startup file called "startup" "startup file" or "startup~" or "startup file~"
[12:59] <farous> sorry sumedha_ do not use telnet anymore. ssh is encryp telnet though
[12:59] <farous> Christopher: startup
[01:00] <dooglus> sumedha_: you need to tell the X server to listen to TCP connections.  the ubuntu X server has that disabled by default.
[01:00] <dooglus> sumedha_: that's for a good reason - having people connect to your X server is a security risk - they can watch your keystrokes
[01:01] <Christopher> i typed the line echo $HOME its home./christopher
[01:01] <dooglus> sumedha_: ssh -X is the way forward
[01:01] <farous> dooglus: is that true also using ssh -X
[01:01] <dooglus> farous: NO, IT'S NOT.  FOR SSH -x YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE THE SERVER LISTENING.
[01:01] <dooglus> oops.
[01:01] <farous> no problems cool my friend thanx ;)
[01:01] <Appelflap> so, how do  know if dd is working if i dont get messages?
[01:01] <sumedha_> Okay.  How o I enable X listening to TCP connections ?
[01:02] <farous> sumedha_: ssh is installed by default on your sys
[01:02] <dooglus> sumedha_: you edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf - but really, it's better to use "ssh -X" instead of telnet - then DISPLAY is set automatically for you and X just works...
[01:02] <heatxsink> anyone in here know how I can get videos using the divx codec working proper in xine?
[01:02] <sumedha_> Yeah. But unfortunately, ssh connections are not  allowed on that remote server
[01:02] <dooglus> !restrictedformats
[01:02] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:03] <sumedha_> Strange ... but true
[01:03] <dooglus> heatxsink: look at that link from ubotu
[01:03] <farous> sumedha_: if you run gnome run the gdm display manager you can configure it there
[01:03] <heatxsink> dooglus:  thanks
[01:03] <heatxsink> dooglus:  I installed that
[01:03] <heatxsink> weird...
[01:04] <Christopher> ahh why isnt this working
[01:04] <Christopher> wierd isnt it
[01:04] <sumedha_>  gdm.conf right ?
[01:04] <farous> Christopher: in a terminal type which fbsetbg
[01:04] <farous> sumedha_: right
[01:04] <Christopher> farous,  when i type gedit /.fluxbox/startup
[01:04] <sumedha_> farous: Thanks. I'll try that
[01:04] <dooglus> 12:58 < dooglus> Christopher: try typing just that line in a terminal.  does it set your wallpaper?  or what happens?
[01:04] <Christopher> it now brings up an empty file
[01:04] <farous> Christopher: one step at a type
[01:05] <dooglus> Christopher: that's the wrong path.  you want   "gedit ~/.fluxbox/startup"
[01:05] <farous> see if you have the command first
[01:06] <farous> Christopher: do you have nautilus file manager?
[01:07] <heatxsink> dooglus:  is there something I gotta do such that Xine sees the codecs I have installed?
[01:07] <dooglus> heatxsink: I don't think so.
[01:07] <Christopher> i believe so
[01:07] <farous> Christopher: open it
[01:08] <farous> sniff do you have the liqt-dev installed
[01:08] <Christopher> clicked it and nothing happened
[01:09] <Christopher> maybe im using an unstable flux?
[01:09] <heatxsink> dooglus:  really odd...
[01:09] <farous> Christopher: you have the file browser opened
[01:09] <Christopher> because my Stellarium program on here doesnt work either when i click it
[01:09] <Christopher> farous,  no it wontopen
[01:09] <Christopher> i click and nothing happens
[01:09] <farous> Christopher: in a terminal type nautilus --no-desktop
[01:10] <farous> and tell me what is the feedback
[01:11] <Christopher> k the cursor went down a line and its just blinking and nothing happened
[01:12] <Christopher> and theres not another prompt
[01:12] <Christopher> just goes underneath the prompt i just typed at
[01:12] <farous> what did you install exactly Christopher what type of installation ubuntu, kubuntu or server install
[01:12] <Christopher> Ubuntu 5.10
[01:13] <Christopher> with GNOME
[01:13] <farous> ok in a terminal type which nautilus
[01:13] <farous> see if it is there
[01:13] <Christopher> then i tried out Enlightenment.. which wasnt working right with the menus.. then i switched right to flux
[01:13] <dooglus> heatxsink: I just played a .divx in xine.  it used /usr/lib/win32/drv3.so.6.0
[01:13] <dooglus> heatxsink: do you have a /usr/lib/win32 directory?
[01:13] <Christopher> does the same thing as the last command
[01:14] <Christopher> cursor moves to the next line under the previous prompt
[01:14] <farous> Christopher: you do not have nautilus installed then
[01:14] <ita> im still trying to connect my evolution to our exchange server - i configured the connector correctly i think, my account is found and entry created in evolution - but i still cant auth . he tries to "fetch drawers from ip.ip.ip.ip" asks AGAIN for auth .. and i get Could not authenticate to server. (Password incorrect?) - even though data is ok to get onto webaccess .. ANY ideas appreciated this istaking me far too long now
[01:14] <farous> type in a terminal this command exactly <$PATH> without the < >
[01:14] <dooglus> farous: that's not a good deduction
[01:15] <dooglus> farous: he's not typing at a shell prompt, he told you
[01:15] <farous> dooglus i think he messed his path command
[01:15] <Christopher> bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[01:15] <farous> sorry env var
[01:15] <dooglus> farous: he said @the cursor went down, and there's not another shell prompt@
[01:15] <dooglus> farous: so anything he types from now on won't be seen by the shell until he gets the shell prompt back
[01:16] <farous> dooglus: i missunderstood then
[01:16] <Christopher> well i been starting up a new shell for those times
[01:16] <farous> dooglus: seems to work though the path env var is correct
[01:16] <heatxsink> dooglus:  I think this is a known problem with dapper drake?
[01:16] <Christopher> so that the commands would enter
[01:16] <dooglus> farous: either way, it's easier to use the command line when we're using a text-based medium like this...
[01:16] <dooglus> heatxsink: I'm using dapper
[01:17] <heatxsink> yup that path is there
[01:17] <heatxsink> for me it's there
[01:17] <heatxsink> what is going on weird...
[01:17] <dooglus> heatxsink: and that file, too?
[01:17] <heatxsink> dooglus:  nods
[01:17] <a2xm> hi, anybody knows how to setting up SWAT?
[01:18] <dooglus> heatxsink: and /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_decode_ff.so ?
[01:18] <Christopher> dooglus, synpatic package manager shows that my nautilus is installed
[01:19] <heatxsink> dooglus:  ahh that isn't in there..
[01:19] <farous> Christopher: hmm ok can you open your startup script again
[01:19] <Christopher> should i try getting rid of enlightenment off my session list along with flux.. reinstalling gnome?
[01:19] <farous> i think you are missing an & somewhere
[01:19] <dooglus> heatxsink: I got that from package 'libxine1c2'
[01:19] <sumedha> My gdm.conf has "DisallowTCP=false". I have done "xhost +". Also, my DISPLAY on the remote session is set correctly to my IP. BUt I am unable to get the display of the X programs on my screen. What else coulf I do ? (Ubuntu 5.10 )
[01:19] <farous> gedit ~/.fluxbox/startup
[01:20] <Christopher> k opened
[01:20] <dooglus> sumedha: do you have :0 on the end of your DISPLAY?
[01:20] <sumedha> Yes. :0.0
[01:20] <dooglus> sumedha: did you export it?
[01:20] <sumedha> Yeah. The remote machine is on csh.
[01:20] <dooglus> ugh
[01:21] <heatxsink> dooglus:  says broken packages
[01:21] <Christopher> farous, im there now
[01:21] <dooglus> heatxsink: details?
[01:21] <farous> ok each command should end with <&> sign without the < > except the exec fluxbox which is the last one
[01:21] <sumedha> The error is "Error: Can't open display: <my IP>"
[01:21] <farous> Christopher: and when you see a # sign before a line it means it is commented will not be executed
[01:21] <dooglus> sumedha: I would expect to see a : and a 0 in that error message
[01:22] <heatxsink> dooglus:  http://pastebin.com/555789
[01:22] <sumedha> Yes. :0.0 is there
[01:22] <farous> do that then paste your file on the pastebin
[01:22] <Christopher> yeah i remember that from c++ program class
[01:22] <Christopher> so every command should have the & after it
[01:23] <farous> except the last one that exe the fluxbox
[01:23] <dooglus> heatxsink: enable multiverse and try again
[01:23] <farous> you can comment it if you want but not necessary
[01:23] <dooglus> !universe
[01:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:24] <Christopher> k i put a couple more & after some commands
[01:24] <Christopher> should i save and close it now and restart?
[01:24] <heatxsink> dooglus:  thanks I think that's working :-)
[01:24] <farous> Christopher: ok can you paste your file on the pastebin so i can check it
[01:25] <farous> and tell me exactly where is your background file
[01:25] <heatxsink> dooglus:  you wouldn't happen to have a Sound Blaster Audigy ZS card would you?
[01:25] <dooglus> heatxsink: looks like there *is* some other stuff you need to install to get xine playing divx then, eh?
[01:25] <heatxsink> nods
[01:26] <dooglus> heatxsink: no, I've got a laptop with a crappy SiS on-board sound chip
[01:26] <heatxsink> dooglus:  i've been trying to get my firewire port on my audigy sound card to work for ages now, it worked back in warty, but since then hasn't worked
[01:26] <Christopher> farous,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8700
[01:27] <dooglus> heatxsink: I've given up on firewire in linux.  I use Windows for that.
[01:27] <heatxsink> baah
[01:27] <heatxsink> lame
[01:27] <heatxsink> dooglus:  this used to work perfectly in slackware
[01:28] <dooglus> heatxsink: I've never had my firewire port working reliably in any Linux distro, and I've tried a few.
[01:29] <heatxsink> weird...
[01:29] <heatxsink> very weird..
[01:29] <pappan> i am having problems with playing mp3 as well as video files using rhythmbox and totem :(
[01:29] <dooglus> it works for a few minutes, or hours, but I've never seen it not crash eventually.
[01:29] <heatxsink> pappan:  you running breezy?
[01:29] <pappan> heatxsink: yes
[01:29] <heatxsink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[01:29] <heatxsink> read
[01:30] <heatxsink> pappan:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[01:30] <Half-Left> pappan, apt-get totem-xine
[01:30] <pappan> my ubuntu is not connected to net
[01:30] <heatxsink> pappan:  that howto will tell you everything you need to oknw
[01:30] <heatxsink> pappan:  know*
[01:30] <pappan> heatxsink: thanks
[01:30] <pappan> let me read it
[01:31] <heatxsink> pappan:  np
[01:31] <farous> Christopher: why did you use the fbsetroot command
[01:31] <heatxsink> pappan:  hope that helps
[01:31] <Christopher> farous, huh?
[01:31] <Matyasza> Hi guys I would like to set up Network Traffic Accounting on my Ubuntu any suggestion which package is the best to install?
[01:31] <heatxsink> dooglus:  yo, got my video working again thanks :-)
[01:32] <renatofilho> hi all
[01:32] <Christopher>  "/usr/bin/fbsetroot -f /home/christopher/globe.jpg &" that was the change you made right in the pastebin?
[01:32] <heatxsink> dooglus:  now if I can figure out what is seg faulting my Xgl server I'd be in business
[01:32] <farous> Christopher: fbsetroot is for simple background play like black white and so on. fbsetbg is for wallpapers
[01:33] <farous> at least that is wat i understand from the man
[01:33] <renatofilho> i had problems with XGl
[01:33] <heatxsink> renatofilho:  you too?
[01:33] <Half-Left> dont we all
[01:33] <renatofilho> this error "dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libxglx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:33] <heatxsink> renatofilho:  you eventually get it working?
[01:33] <farous> Christopher: ok sorry than i made a mistake
[01:33] <heatxsink> renatofilho:  did you complie from source?
[01:33] <Christopher> farous, ill put a comment in front of it so it gets ignored and uncommment the fbsetbg command
[01:34] <renatofilho> no i get the package from daaper repository
[01:34] <heatxsink> there's a dapper repo package?
[01:34] <heatxsink> now ay
[01:34] <farous> Christopher: set the right path to your file
[01:34] <Christopher> becauseon wiki it says just to change the path of the fbsetbg to that of the file i want to use
[01:34] <albacker> guys i reinstalled ubuntu, and now it doesnt play my .mp3's. i dont remember installing any plugin when i got ubuntu the first time. should i install any ?
[01:35] <sumedha> OKay! If you guys remember my problem of not being able to get the XDisplay from the remote server .... The problem was that I had to kill gdm and then start it again. That solved the problem
[01:35] <albacker> ?
[01:35] <heatxsink> awesome I gotta try this
[01:35] <heatxsink> brb
[01:35] <renatofilho> albacker, what version of your UBUNTU?
[01:35] <Ramunas> where trash is located?
[01:35] <farous> fbsetbg /home/christopher/globe.jpg&
[01:35] <sumedha> The changes done were : In /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf:  DisallowTCP=false    and also in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc I removed the -nolisten tcp option
[01:36] <Half-Left> Ramunas, ~/.trash
[01:36] <Christopher> still doesnt work
[01:36] <Christopher> this is such a wierd problem
[01:36] <farous> Christopher: try it in a terminal first
[01:36] <albacker> renatofilho, 5.10
[01:36] <Christopher> the same code
[01:36] <Ramunas> Half-Left there`s no such dir
[01:36] <Bone_Down> need help with server install and e16 enlightenment... how do I get back to a termenal prompt and does anyone know of some good links on how to set up e16 with menus and icons? I have been searching the net now since last Sat.
[01:36] <farous> fbsetbg /home/christopher/globe.jpg&
[01:36] <renatofilho> albacker, find the "mad"  plugin
[01:37] <Half-Left> Ramunas, it's hidden
[01:37] <Ramunas> Half-Left even bash: cd: /home/admin/.trash: No such file or directory
[01:37] <albacker> renatofilho, what does it do ?
[01:37] <Ramunas> so how else it may be hidden?
[01:37] <renatofilho> albacker a gstreamer plugin
[01:37] <Half-Left> just by the .
[01:38] <Christopher> farous,  i get in terminal the response " [1]  10900 " and then it goes back to prompt BUT
[01:38] <Ramunas> bash: cd: .trash: No such file or directory
[01:38] <Ramunas> this is in my home dir
[01:38] <albacker> renatofilho, aha, k thanks !
[01:38] <Ramunas> oh
[01:38] <Ramunas> its Trash
[01:38] <Ramunas> not trash
[01:38] <Ramunas> :D
[01:39] <Christopher> i get a special message window pop up saying it cant find an app to set wallpaper with
[01:39] <albacker> Ramunas, its with big T
[01:39] <Christopher> then it says to install Eterm
[01:39] <Ramunas> em how do i remove all files in current folder?
[01:39] <Half-Left> didn't notice the T :-)
[01:40] <albacker> Ramunas, rm -rf *
[01:40] <farous> Christopher: hmm that is strange seems fbsetbg is just a front end for other program
[01:40] <Christopher> and that Eterm provides Esetroot in the package
[01:40] <farous> ok then install Eterm Christopher i have it installed here a very nice package
[01:40] <Bone_Down> need help with server install and e16 enlightenment... how do I get back to a termenal prompt and does anyone know of some good links on how to set up e16 with menus and icons? I have been searching the net now since last Sat.
[01:40] <Ramunas> albacker thanks :)
[01:40] <Christopher> ok does synaptic have it?
[01:40] <albacker> Ramunas, rm -rf *          the * stands for 'all' it means, delete everything in this dir ! if you want to delete a specific file, do ls         << this gives file in a directoru, and choose the file you want to remove and do rm -rf file.
[01:40] <farous> yap
[01:41] <faiper> how to install mplayer-k7 in ubuntu dapper
[01:42] <Sp4rKy> hi
[01:42] <heatxsink> doh that didn't work, still seg faulting!!!!
[01:42] <heatxsink> GRRRR!!!
[01:42] <rem_> Hey all. What can I do if epiphany freezes, had to kill it with xkill cze i didnt see anything in ps, I then try to restart it and it wont start. I had this before but then I would just kill the remaining process with ps -eaf and kill , but this time i dont see any process and epiphany wnot restart ... ?!
[01:42] <heatxsink> and I'm running nvidia drivers!
[01:42] <Christopher> farous, whenever you use synaptic to install something you have to restart the desktop everytime?
[01:42] <farous> try this command to in a terminal till you install Christopher <display -dispose background -window root  /home/christopher/globe.jpg &>
[01:42] <albacker> e16 is englightenment right ? : Bone_Down  ?!
[01:42] <Sp4rKy> anyone has compil a 2.6.15.4 kernel correctly ?
[01:42] <heatxsink> Christopher:  only with a kernel
[01:42] <heatxsink> Christopher:  even then you really don't have to
[01:43] <Bone_Down> need help with server install and e16 enlightenment... how do I get back to a termenal prompt?
[01:43] <rem_> I would like to avoid rebooting this machine if possible ..
[01:43] <heatxsink> renatofilho:  damn...so it doesn't work for you either?
[01:43] <Christopher> im still trying to figure out the whole kernel stuff
[01:43] <Bone_Down> :albacker correct... problem I have is reboot sends pc to e16 desktop, but no icons.. so I need to install at the least xterm now I believe
[01:43] <heatxsink> Christopher:  what do you mean?
[01:44] <albacker> renatofilho, does the mad plugin work only with xmms or with beep-media-player / rhythmbox too ?
[01:44] <Quinch> Could anyone recommend me a good CD/DVD burning app?
[01:44] <wassha> hi guys
[01:44] <Bone_Down> albacker: now I don't now how to get back to a terminal prompt or window
[01:44] <renatofilho> this plugin work with rhythmbox and gstreamer players
[01:44] <Christopher> farous,  got a another wierd response from that code as well
[01:45] <wassha> ive got one noob question
[01:45] <albacker> Bone_Down, does enlightenkment have icons ? why do you want to use enlightenmen ? are you sure you want to use enlightenment? have you tried to join the englightenment channel.
[01:45] <porti> k pasa
[01:45] <farous> Christopher: it uses imagemagick whcih should be installed by default
[01:45] <rem_> Hey all. What can I do if epiphany freezes, had to kill it with xkill cze i didnt see anything in ps, I then try to restart it and it wont start. I had this before but then I would just kill the remaining process with ps -eaf and kill , but this time i dont see any process and epiphany wnot restart ... ?!
[01:45] <rem_> I would like to avoid rebooting this machine if possible ..
[01:45] <Half-Left> Quinch, nautilus burner, gnomebaker, graveman
[01:45] <Christopher> heatxsink, i was just saying how i dont know much about kernels in general i dont really know what they are except minor basic definitions from wiki
[01:46] <Quinch> Half-Left, which one would you recommend?
[01:46] <Bone_Down> I had ubuntu-lite with icewm before... it is an older pc and I was looking for a light but flashy wm and icewm was pretty basic
[01:46] <Half-Left> Quinch, nautilus one works fine
[01:46] <Quinch> Half-Left, thanks.
[01:46] <farous> Christopher: so what is the message now
[01:46] <heatxsink> Christopher:  cool, depending on the type of person you are, you might learn alot by compling your own kernel :-)
[01:46] <Half-Left> cd creator
[01:47] <Bone_Down> so I thought what the heck let's try something new and now I need to get to prompt and not sure how to do so.
[01:47] <albacker> Bone_Down, have you tried fluxbox/fvwm/pekwm ?
[01:47] <Bone_Down> nope not yet
[01:47] <Bone_Down> still need to get to a prompt to even install anything esle
[01:47] <Christopher> heatxsink, im that type of person thats why im here i hope i learn how to do all that stuff along with the whole building process
[01:47] <farous> Bone_Down: ctl alt F1
[01:47] <heatxsink> Christopher:  sweet
[01:47] <Christopher> farous,[2]  10991
[01:47] <Christopher> [1]    Exit 1                  fbsetbg /home/christopher/globe.jpg
[01:47] <Bone_Down> :farous ty ty ty
[01:48] <wassha> ive found account user nobody with directory /nonexistent ..what is that used for?
[01:48] <farous> Bone_Down: also try ion is great for someone who like the command line
[01:48] <Christopher> and then
[01:48] <albacker> Christopher, have you tried Esetroot ?
[01:48] <heatxsink> anyone know what to do when apt won't upgrade packages?
[01:48] <Christopher> christopher@ubuntu:~$ bash: display: command not found
[01:48] <farous> Christopher: you need imagemagick
[01:48] <albacker> farous, ion, is only command line :) i used to like wm's but gnome is more than perfect :)
[01:49] <Christopher> i just installed Eterm a second ago
[01:49] <Christopher> farous,  i just installed that too
[01:49] <farous> albacker: i said for someone who likes the commandline not only command line ;)
[01:49] <Christopher> i didnt have it installed by default
[01:49] <Quinch> Can anyone tell me how to turn off window minimisation/maximisation animations?
[01:49] <albacker> farous, :)
[01:49] <Bone_Down> farous: will do... i have seen many mentioned, and chose enlightenment to try and get to work.. lol got it to boot to desktop, and suprise... no icons  :-)  so I wanted to at least get back to prompt and trouble shoot
[01:49] <Half-Left> Quinch, try the gconf-editor
[01:50] <wassha> nobody knows?
[01:50] <selinium_> Morning all, How do you comment oiut a line in fstab?
[01:50] <farous> Christopher: i would suggest to logout of the windowmanager and login again now
[01:50] <Christopher> farous, i installed imagemagick and Eterm via Synaptic pack. man. and they arent showing up in the menu options anywhere
[01:50] <NoStressAway> selinium_: a # before
[01:50] <farous> just to have a fresh start
[01:50] <Quinch> Half-Left, that's the "configuration editor", right? What am I looking for?
[01:51] <Half-Left> Quinch, yes
[01:51] <Christopher> ok ill try that now
[01:51] <Bone_Down> thanks Farous and albacker... I am off to the basement now to play with this some more.
[01:52] <farous> cheers Bone_Down
[01:52] <albacker> see ya Bone_Down;
[01:52] <heatxsink> found another how to for Xgl http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL
[01:53] <farous> heatxsink: there is a howto on ubuntufourms for it
[01:53] <Goshawk> (j #xgl
[01:53] <Goshawk> ops sorry
[01:53] <heatxsink> farous:  saw that
[01:53] <Seveas>  /kick Goshawk spammer :p
[01:53] <Half-Left> Quinch,  gnome/desktop/interface
[01:53] <Christopher> k back
[01:53] <Goshawk> sorry Seveas -__-
[01:53] <farous> goodluck then heatxsink
[01:53] <Christopher> guess what
[01:54] <Christopher> farous,  it works now
[01:54] <farous> Christopher: what ? it works ;)
[01:54] <Christopher> thank you!
[01:54] <NoStressAway> for xgl, a friend juste install compiz et xserver-xgl, stop gdm and lunch this script, and it seems to work for him http://pastebin.com/555795
[01:54] <Christopher> yeah and even the transparency settings kicked in that i set like hours ago
[01:54] <NoStressAway> launch
[01:54] <heatxsink> farous:  thanks !
[01:54] <farous> Christopher: you can also look at this how to if you wana http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_update_fluxbox#Using_Ubutnu
[01:54] <farous> and you are welcomed Christopher
[01:54] <Quinch> Half-Left, thanks.
[01:54] <Christopher> farous, yep my wallpaper is up
[01:55] <xerox_> Howdy.
[01:55] <p0windah> NoStress: screenshots ?
[01:55] <selinium_> NoStress,  Cheers, I was just checking... :)
[01:55] <xerox_> Running Xgl, people?  :-)
[01:55] <Christopher> farous,  cool i will thanks next thing i need to work on now is figuring out why my "constellarium" wont load. and how to make windows transparent
[01:56] <NoStress> xerox_: for xgl, a friend juste install compiz et xserver-xgl, stop gdm and lunch this script, and it seems to work for him http://pastebin.com/555795
[01:56] <cas> there is also a #xgl-ubuntu for the ones interested
[01:56] <cas> xerox_: running it smooth and enjoying it very much :)
[01:56] <NoStress> p0windah: i'm at work, i'll try that this evening
[01:56] <p0windah> if ati/multi-head wasnt so broken, I'd check it out
[01:56] <xerox_> Cool!
[01:56] <farous> Christopher: windows transprent never played with that check the themes i sent you. also type in google fluxbox themes and cruse and enjoy :)
[01:56] <xerox_> I'd love to have the expos-like feature, in fact.
[01:57] <p0windah> NoStress: I'd be interested in seeing how well it works, if it works well I might consider unplugging my second mon. to use it
[01:57] <Christopher> thanks again now i can get some sleep
[01:57] <wassha> guys i just wanna know what is account nobody with /nonexistent directory used for in ubunutu..noob question maybe, but i only want to know its a part of system or it could be "someone"
[01:57] <Christopher> night everyone
[01:57] <farous> night :)
[01:58] <heatxsink> how do I figure out a package name from the deb?
[01:59] <upayavir1> Hi, I've just upgraded to Dapper, and I've lost all network connections. Presumably ipw2200 should be working in Dapper?
[02:00] <renatofilho> upayavir1, you are using the kernel 2.6.15??
[02:00] <poningru> heatxsink: just go to synaptic and search for it
[02:00] <heatxsink> poningru:  for the deb?
[02:00] <poningru> or you can go to terminal and type apt-cache search blah
[02:00] <poningru> heatxsink: yeah dude
[02:01] <poningru> the package deb will be listed under info
[02:01] <upayavir1> renatofilho: don't know. Hang on..
[02:02] <M_A_K> I just wiped out windows and installed ubuntu on my Winbook laptop and everything seems to have installed just fine.
[02:02] <hendry> Does the ubuntu installer have a feature to shrink a windows partition?
[02:02] <M_A_K> I am a linux newbie and so far so good.
[02:02] <setuid> I'm trying to install the xfonts-artwiz package, but once I do, none of the fonts are accessible. I've tried modifying /etc/fonts/local.conf, fontconfig, mkfontdir, added the path to xorg.conf, etc. What am I missing?
[02:02] <upayavir1> renatofilho: seems like I'm still using Breezy's kernel. That'd screw things up.
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hendry: yeh it does
[02:03] <renatofilho> upayavir1, i had the same problem, and i update to new kernel and working fine now
[02:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all...
[02:04] <setuid> Anyone know?
[02:04] <upayavir1> renatofilho: I've got no reference to new kernel in grub menu.lst. Can you send me yours?
[02:04] <renatofilho> upayavir1, wait a second
[02:04] <hendry> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[02:04] <M_A_K> Is there a package that will allow me to use my laptop's power management like suspend or hibernate mode rather than having to shut down?
[02:05] <heatxsink> poningru:  thanks, used synaptic
[02:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> what command synaptic uses when is verifying what packages must be updated...i said...in command-line...
[02:05] <poningru> yep
[02:05] <setuid> M_A_K: suspend2.net
[02:05] <setuid> M_A_K: and laptop_mode
[02:06] <NoStress> Aragorn_Guardian: sudo apt-get update ?
[02:06] <setuid> There must be a way to do this
[02:06] <albacker> is there any search funcion like the rhythmbox one in beepmediaplayer ? [or plugin]  ?
[02:06] <M_A_K> setuid : is the first a url and the second a synaptic package?
[02:06] <setuid> albacker: Try amaroK
[02:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> NoStress:  nice..but this dont make nothing, right...only list packages...
[02:07] <albacker> setuid, amaroK is for Kde :S ! i use gnome,..
[02:07] <albacker> and it's not suggested to use kde apps in gnome and vice versa.
[02:07] <setuid> albacker: No, amarok uses kdelibs, you don't need KDE, and it absolutely blows away *ANYTHING* out there I've seen
[02:08] <setuid> I don't run GNOME or KDE, and it works great here.
[02:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> NoStress:  update syncronizes packages.bz2...
[02:08] <setuid> I use a mix of whatever apps I like, whatever does the job I need them to do
[02:08] <sander__> I\ve got a question... when i put my mp3 player into usb port.. how do i get my musics from there? or which directory it appears...
[02:08] <NoStress> Aragorn_Guardian: apt-get update to update database, apt-get upgrade to do the upgrade, it will show the  modification and will prompt you if you want to continue or not
[02:08] <xerox_> cas: could you sum up the required step in order to run Xgl?
[02:08] <poningru> albacker: there is a good one hold on
[02:08] <albacker> setuid, yeah, it made my PC freeze last time i used it in gnome !
[02:08] <setuid> albacker: Then I'd fix that problem first
[02:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need know, in terminal, the same info that are in synaptic...
[02:08] <albacker> poningru, k, thanks
[02:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> NoStress:  nice....
[02:08] <poningru> albacker: I meant another music using thing
[02:08] <poningru> called banshee
[02:09] <setuid> ugh, this sucks
[02:09] <poningru> it has the search functionality etc
[02:09] <kryptoz> hey how do i install a .deb file ?
[02:09] <kryptoz> urgent .. a quick answer required ..
[02:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> NoStress:  this is the safe way? i said...i need a list for a while....
[02:09] <wassha> nobody talks with me :(
[02:09] <kryptoz> i am using ubuntu
[02:09] <poningru> kryptoz: dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:09] <kryptoz> thanx :)
[02:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> wassha:  hi wassha ..hehehe
[02:09] <poningru> kryptoz: dont I know you from somewhere? you look familiar
[02:10] <poningru> wassha: whats wrong?
[02:10] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  sudo apt-get install file.deb
[02:10] <kryptoz> well
[02:10] <kryptoz> i wanted to install nerolinux
[02:10] <NoStress> Aragorn_Guardian: sorry, i don't understand what you mean (my english is bad)
[02:10] <kryptoz> the damn k3b is not detecting my dvd writer
[02:10] <kryptoz> till yesterday it was fine
[02:11] <kryptoz> i removed and installed k3b again but same thing still
[02:11] <kryptoz> so i wanted to try nero
[02:11] <IdleOne> try sudo apt-get install nerolinux
[02:11] <kryptoz> i did that
[02:11] <kryptoz> but repo doesn'thave nero
[02:11] <kryptoz> but i got the .deb
[02:11] <kryptoz> and it got installed correct ..
[02:11] <faiper> HI ... how to install mplayer-k7 in dapper ?
[02:11] <M_A_K> setuid : I seem to have laptop_mode installed, but where do I find it so I can configure?
[02:11] <kryptoz> poningru, thankx
[02:12] <wassha> poingru: it seems that i ve had noob question about user account nobody in ubnutu distro, so nobody answers me
[02:12] <kryptoz> IdleOne, what other dvd burners are there for ubuntu ?
[02:12] <upayavir1> once I've made a change to /boot/grub/menu.lst, do I need to do something before rebooting?
[02:12] <Aragorn_Guardian> NoStress:  ok..(the mine is bad too...hehehe)..i am reading manual...there is an option, -u --show-upgraded...seems what i need...didi you used this option in apt-get before?
[02:12] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  gnomen=baker is mentioned alot
[02:12] <NoStress> Aragorn_Guardian: i don't
[02:12] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  gnomebaker sorry
[02:13] <kryptoz> okay
[02:13] <kryptoz> let me try that
[02:13] <IdleOne> repo has it
[02:13] <kryptoz> cuz nero is a commercial one and i had to use a serial from serials.ws which is bad
[02:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> NoStress:  ok...thanks...gonna read man... 8)
[02:14] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  try gnomebaker should work ok for you
[02:14] <kryptoz> yeah its in the repo .. let me get it installed
[02:14] <kryptoz> its done .. let me try that
[02:14] <kryptoz> :)
[02:14] <wassha> and google keeps sielence
[02:15] <klippo> anyone got gnome-launch-box and transparency to work?
[02:15] <M_A_K> Does anybody know how to configure the power management on a laptop?  Running breezy on my winbook.  I just installed yesterday so I am new to linux.
[02:18] <jmarc> hi everyone
[02:18] <xerox_> Oi.
[02:18] <kryptoz> IdleOne, my god .. its asking for a cd
[02:19] <wassha> except silent users, ubuntu is nice linux disto :D
[02:19] <kryptoz> i have a brand new cd just i opened from the packet and poped in
[02:19] <kryptoz> and still its asking for the cd :((
[02:19] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  yeah I had the same problem
[02:20] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  I dont know how to fix it though
[02:20] <kryptoz> so what u did ?
[02:20] <ubuntu> hi all
[02:20] <kryptoz> not burning the cd now a days
[02:20] <kryptoz> :p
[02:20] <IdleOne> you can try using nautilus
[02:20] <kryptoz> that also i tried
[02:20] <kryptoz> same thing
[02:20] <ubuntu> help me
[02:20] <kryptoz> its asking for the cd
[02:20] <kryptoz> ubuntu needs help ?
[02:20] <kryptoz> cool
[02:20] <kryptoz> :d
[02:20] <ubuntu> no
[02:20] <kryptoz> :)
[02:20] <IdleOne> !enter
[02:20] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:20] <kryptoz> !enter
[02:21] <ubuntu> stop here and listen to me
[02:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> wassha:  ubuntu is a nice distro...based in a solid distro - debian...
[02:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu is a revolution in the way linux distros are maded... 8)
[02:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> is amazing!!!!
[02:21] <Appelflap> fanboy
[02:22] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  if you dont mind waiting for a little there are a few guys in this room who can help you to get your dvd working
[02:22] <kryptoz> come on guys .. i can't burn a cd
[02:22] <kryptoz> here
[02:22] <kryptoz> cool  IdleOne waiting is the one choice i have
[02:22] <Appelflap> ubuntuguide has burning instructions
[02:22] <kryptoz> or second is run around and burn the cd in some other machine
[02:22] <moreece> erm question
[02:22] <kryptoz> :(
[02:22] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  you can..just need to get ubuntu configured properly
[02:22] <kryptoz> lol
[02:22] <kryptoz> i know
[02:22] <kryptoz> thanx IdleOne
[02:22] <wassha> yep i know its based on debian, thats why noob like me choose it :D
[02:23] <Davihigh> hello everyone!
[02:23] <Aragorn_Guardian> hehehe
[02:23] <moreece> registering my nick ... /msg nickserv password e-mail@address?
[02:23] <IdleOne> kryptoz:  I think _jason  might be able to help you but not sure if he is awake
[02:23] <IdleOne> moreece:  /msg nickserv help
[02:23] <kryptoz> _jason, hoooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[02:23] <DrTripleEx> Goodmorning everyone
[02:23] <moreece> ah
[02:23] <jmarc> guys am a complete newbie at linux n wld like to know where I can get some info... specially regarding networking n simple things like command to get my ip
[02:23] <matteo> hi
[02:23] <kryptoz> lol i be here around for another 2/3 hours
[02:23] <Aragorn_Guardian> debian is easy for newbies and perfect for the experts too... 8)
[02:23] <adub> ok im trying to print a pdf document and it is coming out all garble blocks letters and numbers now i can print anything else fine but i have never printed PDF can someone help?
[02:24] <IdleOne> matteo:  ifconfig
[02:24] <DrTripleEx> Can some one help me?
[02:24] <matteo> ifconfig?
[02:24] <IdleOne> yes
[02:24] <IdleOne> in terminal
[02:24] <matteo> why?
[02:25] <IdleOne> that will give you your ip
[02:25] <DrTripleEx> Ok, here the situation: Ive downloaded the two .zip files from Ubuntu site. What do I do next.
[02:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> wassha:  all time you spend in it today, willl be usefull to you become an expert... 8)
[02:25] <jmarc> thanx
[02:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu willl conquer the world...hehehehe
[02:25] <adub> dirtripleex use ark to unarchive
[02:25] <adub> right click extract here
[02:26] <sander__> does ubuntu support mp3-s?
[02:26] <IdleOne> sander_:  of course
[02:26] <sander__> like... wtf
[02:26] <IdleOne> !tell sander_  about mplayer
[02:26] <DrTripleEx> i did ...
[02:26] <Davihigh> I am saying hello from Shanghai, China!
[02:26] <DrTripleEx> Now I have two folders.
[02:26] <Davihigh> Mark Shuttleworth just come here and have a meeting with LUG , today.
[02:26] <sander__> i cannot play any of my mp3-s
[02:27] <adub> sander__ yes
[02:27] <DrTripleEx> On the side they mention burning them as Image File
[02:27] <adub> mp3s
[02:27] <IdleOne> sander_:  read the msg ubotu sent you
[02:27] <adub> apt-get install xmms
[02:27] <adub> apt-get update first sander__
[02:27] <DrTripleEx> ???
[02:27] <adub> browse through your menu select xmms
[02:27] <jmarc> any1 from Mauritius around here... wld like to meet others n maybe have a Ubuntu LUG created
[02:27] <sander__> whoooa... chill guys... i dont know how to install java... and such... too new for me
[02:28] <adub> DrTripleEx why the ??? whats your prob sir
[02:28] <[D-Tail] > Hey all :-)
[02:28] <IdleOne> DrTripleEx:  right click on the file.iso and click write disc
[02:28] <adub> oh he is trying to burn iso images i thought it was something to do with zip files
[02:28] <[D-Tail] > Can anyone help me with my fglrx 8.22.5 on ubuntu breezy 5.10 (again)? :-)
[02:28] <IdleOne> adub:  me too
[02:28] <adub> d-tail sure
[02:29] <adub> i will get you working you trying to configure an ati graphics card
[02:29] <[D-Tail] > adub: ok... my situation is as follows: Xorg.0.conf says that DRIScreenInit has failed and I can't uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx...
[02:29] <DrTripleEx> adub: In the folder I cant find the image files to burn them.
[02:30] <[D-Tail] > I recently upgraded the package cause of the 8.22.5 drivers but x crashed and after a reboot I got the MESA drivers :-\
[02:30] <adub> drtripleex  if your on windows find files or folder *.iso
[02:31] <upayavir1> I've now got Dapper working :-) Except that the mouse movement is _very_ slow. Takes six or more swipes of the touchpad to get from one side of screen to other. Using the system/preferences/mouse applet makes no difference.
[02:31] <adub> d-tail  you downloaded this from the ati website right?
[02:31] <[D-Tail] > not directly...
[02:31] <[D-Tail] > just did an apt-get install ubuntu-fglrx-686 and fglrx-control and some more
[02:31] <adub> d-tail oh, that may not be the problem though dont try to uninstall
[02:31] <albacker> what should the runlevel in inittab be so i dont have gdm opened ?
[02:31] <Ivaldi> m.au]  has joined #ubuntu Image File
[02:31] <adub> d-tail are you 32 bit or 64 bit
[02:31] <[D-Tail] > 32
[02:31] <Ivaldi> sorry
[02:32] <[D-Tail] > P4 2.40, Radeon 9550/256MB
[02:32] <adub> ok, and the driver installed fine??  go to a command prompt  as normal  user type  fglrxinfo
[02:33] <adub> is the driver showing output but your just getting a dri error
[02:33] <Appelflap> so, does dd have a progress bar?
[02:33] <sander__> can anybody give me full introductions for installing java and macromedia players... those help files dont help a lot
[02:33] <IdleOne> !java
[02:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:33] <[D-Tail] > well, it says that my openGL vendor is Mesa GLX indirect and all
[02:33] <adub> sure sander__
[02:33] <adub> download java
[02:33] <IdleOne> !tell sander_  about java
[02:34] <IdleOne> sander_:  follow those intructions
[02:34] <sander__> i got java
[02:34] <sander__> downloaded
[02:34] <sander__> i renamed that too
[02:34] <[D-Tail] > adub: any clue?
[02:34] <sander__> x+ at the beggining
[02:34] <sander__> so like what next?
[02:35] <IdleOne> sander_:  if you follow the instuctions on th e wiki you should not have any problems
[02:35] <avinoam> Can someone help me with this:
[02:35] <avinoam> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[02:35] <avinoam> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[02:35] <avinoam> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[02:35] <avinoam> LC_CTYPE="he_IL"
[02:35] <adub> you will have a .bin file for the java from www.java.com     2) apt-get install java-package    3)  fakeroot make-jpkg <java-binary-package-name>.bin         <--- must be done as normal user   4)  dpkg -i <created-package-name>.deb   5)  java -version to verify
[02:35] <adub> sander__ read above
[02:35] <sander__> whats apt-get omstall
[02:35] <sander__> install
[02:36] <adub> now if your installing flash in mozilla-firefox it should prompt and autoinstall for you
[02:36] <[D-Tail] > sander__: thats the way to install a software package ;-)
[02:36] <[D-Tail] > pretty useful in ubuntu, so to say ^_^
[02:36] <IdleOne> sander_:  I dont mean to sound like a parrot but trust me if you follow the instructions on the wiki it will go very smoothly
[02:36] <sander__> hmm ook... il try...
[02:36] <adub> i dont know how to have ubotu tell you think sander__ sorry
[02:37] <sander__> even if im a moron windows user
[02:37] <IdleOne> sander_:  first step out of moronness is you installed ubuntu :)
[02:37] <adub> sander__ noooooo dont say that   ditch windows man come join us!
[02:37] <upayavir1> anyone know how to change mouse speed/accelleration? System/preferences/mouse doesn't do it.
[02:37] <adub> sander__   your the most important person in here right now if your doing a switch
[02:37] <[D-Tail] > adub: can you in the meantime still help me? I'm kinda clueless
[02:37] <sander__> hmm il read a bit... try to understand
[02:37] <IdleOne> sander_:
[02:38] <adub> upayavir1 i will get to you man promise  just stick around i gotta help d-tail first
[02:38] <adub> d-tail yeah i can help bro
[02:38] <IdleOne> !tell sander_  about java
[02:38] <[D-Tail] > :-)
[02:38] <[D-Tail] > !tell sander__ about java
[02:38] <[D-Tail] > two underscores ;-)
[02:38] <IdleOne> go to that webpage
[02:38] <upayavir1> adub: thanks!
[02:38] <adub> im sorry what did the fglrxinfo output??   some dri error
[02:38] <[D-Tail] > adub: not some dri error, just that my display driver is MESA
[02:38] <sander__> ill try
[02:38] <heatxsink> Seveas:  what would be the LD_LIBRARY_PATH place in ubuntu for line that starts compiz?
[02:39] <adub> d-tail run this  cat /etc/modules
[02:39] <adub> do you see dri listed
[02:39] <[D-Tail] > fglrx is listed... dri isn't
[02:39] <adub> ok d-tail try this  edit /etc/modules and add dri
[02:40] <adub> save then restart X
[02:40] <[D-Tail] > where should I add it? before or after fglrx or doesn't it matter?
[02:40] <adub> ctrl alt backspace  ----   are you on the machine that yoru trying to set this up now
[02:40] <[D-Tail] > yes...
[02:40] <[D-Tail] > so I'll be off for a short while I guess ;-)
[02:40] <puterTard> Out of curiosity, how many 5.10 64 bit users are here?
[02:40] <adub> just enter and put it at the top but i dont think it matters
[02:41] <[D-Tail] > ok.. refiring X now - I'll be back!
[02:41] <Ribs> puterTard: Me :>
[02:41] <Ribs> 5.10 is breezy, right? :)
[02:41] <adub> right d-tail  if you have problems then i guess youll have to set your settings back to vesa could take a while
[02:41] <adub> d-tail k
[02:41] <IdleOne> Ribs:  yes :)
[02:41] <Ribs> right, I'm on 5.10 then
[02:41] <Ribs> amd64
[02:41] <adub> upayavir1 you still around??
[02:41] <upayavir1> yep
[02:42] <adub> c00L
[02:42] <adub> what kind of mouse are you wanting to speed up
[02:42] <puterTard> I finally found a fix to use Firefox 1.5, I love how smart some of the users are and the work arounds they find
[02:42] <upayavir1> Dell M60 touchpad
[02:42] <adub> upayavir1 is it synaptics??
[02:43] <upayavir1> expect so
[02:43] <[D-Tail] > adub:  still got the MESA thing...
[02:43] <adub> d-tail so X wouldnt load
[02:43] <upayavir1> took 23 swipes to get mouse from middle of screen to side
[02:43] <selinium_> how can i find out which folders have the most data in them?
[02:43] <[D-Tail] > adub - it did!
[02:43] <dooglus> selinium_: du -k ~ | sort -n
[02:44] <adub> d-tail it worked??
[02:44] <selinium_> dooglus, Cheers!
[02:44] <[D-Tail] > adding dri to /etc/modules, yes
[02:44] <[D-Tail] > but fglrxinfo still gives me MESA
[02:44] <[D-Tail] > while it should be ATI or FGLRX orso
[02:44] <adub> not exactly is your graphics card working fine
[02:45] <[D-Tail] > it worked well with the previous drivers, so I guess my card's OK
[02:45] <adub> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:45] <adub> see i get the same exact output
[02:45] <[D-Tail] > that's weird
[02:45] <[D-Tail] > can you for example enable openGL acceleration in supertux?
[02:45] <[D-Tail] > or does it all hang up then?
[02:46] <adub> upayavir1 here i wrote a howto on this a while back in ubuntu-forums  im going to send you the link all i ask is you register and respond to my post giving me props =)
[02:46] <upayavir1> adub: there's mention of synaptics in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if that's anything
[02:46] <[D-Tail] > adub: or try fgl_glxgears from a terminal... I bet you'll get a nice error ;-)
[02:46] <upayavir1> adub: okay, thanks
[02:46] <adub> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125816
[02:47] <[D-Tail] > adub: adding 'dri' to /etc/modules wasn't useful anyhow, as it was also listed in the modules section of my xorg.conf...
[02:47] <adub> d-tail yeah i got an error, but my 3d acceleration works perfectly fine everything on this works fine....so i agree it is odd but if its working its working
[02:48] <[D-Tail] > how can you measure 3D acceleration then?
[02:48] <[D-Tail] > can you give me an example? I can't get openGL to work - at least supertux got a choppy performance...
[02:49] <selinium_> If i have separate partitions on the same drive, Can they be mounted in different states? read only/ r+w ?
[02:49] <adub> d-tail good point, perhaps the drivers will get better but i dont have a definite fix to what your wanting i was thinking you were in vesa  = ) and could not get X to load with the ati card
[02:49] <NoStress> [D-Tail] :with glxinfo and glxgears
[02:50] <chmod775> I installed libtool
[02:50] <chmod775> and I want to remove libtool and also the dependent packages with came along with it
[02:50] <chmod775> How do I do that ?
[02:50] <adub> upayavir1 let me know how my tutorial works out i know there are many settings for synaptics for what your looking for within that program
[02:50] <Ramunas> any router guru here?
[02:50] <Ramunas> i need some help with my siemens router
[02:50] <ccooke> chmod775: a good tool for that sort of thing is debfoster
[02:51] <ccooke> chmod775: it'll go through your packages and show you what keeps each thing installed.
[02:51] <ccooke> chmod775: and you can tell it to remove a package and all of its dependencies which are not needed.
[02:51] <adub> d-tail i just remember with 2-d none of teh 3d like screen savers worked that are default in ubuntu then when i got working they worked fine
[02:51] <chmod775> how do U install it
[02:51] <chmod775> ?
[02:51] <ccooke> chmod775: just be careful you don't remove something that's needed, though.
[02:52] <ccooke> chmod775: install 'debfoster' through synaptic or 'sudo apt-get install debfoster'
[02:52] <chmod775> ok
[02:52] <ccooke> chmod775: I use it all the time.
[02:52] <ccooke> chmod775: read the help before you run it.
[02:52] <[D-Tail] > NoStress: glxgears has a choppy performance as well...
[02:52] <[D-Tail] > so it really is a driver issue?
[02:52] <chmod775> hwo do u use it
[02:52] <chmod775> ?
[02:52] <nm> anyone have glx working with their voodoo3
[02:52] <nm> ?
[02:52] <nm> :D
[02:53] <[D-Tail] > adub, NoStress: can't I revert to an older ATI driver then? My previous drivers had perfect openGL support - while it's broken now...
[02:53] <adub> d-tail believe so go to  your screen savers check teh opengl
[02:53] <adub> there are 3d screen savers in there i bet that they work for you  = )
[02:53] <chmod775> debfoster is showing me all the packages
[02:54] <[D-Tail] > adub: I don't have any screensavers, or so it seems...
[02:54] <adub> d-tail i get the same output errors as you on command line but all my 3d stuff works
[02:54] <adub> d-tail really??  odd   yeah all the opengl stuff works on this end
[02:54] <[D-Tail] > I have 'Disabled', 'Blank screen', 'Random', 'Cosmos', 'Pictures folder', and 'Pop art squares'
[02:54] <[D-Tail] > and thats all
[02:55] <[D-Tail] > maybe it's because I threw away my gconf and gconfd dirs recently?
[02:55] <[D-Tail] > oh hey...
[02:55] <adub> yes
[02:55] <[D-Tail] > I've got another thing now - (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[02:56] <[D-Tail] > any idea how to make it compatible? :-P
[02:56] <adub> .log of xorg.conf ??
[02:56] <[D-Tail] > yes
[02:56] <JloR> !dapper
[02:56] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due April 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[02:56] <[D-Tail] > cat /etc/X11/Xorg.0.conf | grep '(EE)'
[02:58] <Zarock> hi tombcore :p
[02:58] <Eleaf> when compiling a kernel.. how can I make it say yes to all options?
[02:58] <adub> d-tail just for the hey of it what does uname -a outpout
[02:59] <[D-Tail] > 'Linux malhavoc 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Mon Jan 16 17:58:04 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux'
[02:59] <adub> 686 are you sure your 32bit
[02:59] <[D-Tail] > yup! :-)
[02:59] <[D-Tail] > Pentium 4 eh
[02:59] <adub> ok
[03:00] <chmod775> ccooke, hi dude I remove the unecessary packages
[03:00] <adub> what version of ubuntu are you running
[03:00] <chmod775> but for libtool I can't remove
[03:00] <[D-Tail] > 5.10 / Breezy
[03:00] <kEEg> guys, did anyone come aross 6.04 kernel boot issue in vmware?
[03:00] <chmod775> sudo debfoster libtool does'nt give me anything
[03:00] <adub> d-tail here im going to send you to an howto
[03:00] <[D-Tail] > sweet ;-)
[03:00] <adub> work through it and then since you already have dri you dont have to mess with it
[03:01] <[D-Tail] > I bet I've seen it already... but just for the fun of it, I don't care ;-)
[03:01] <adub> this time do not download teh drivers from ati's website
[03:01] <[D-Tail] > and thanks already! :-)
[03:01] <adub> np
[03:01] <[D-Tail] > adub - never did that... breezy/saveas drivers
[03:01] <upayavir1> adub: I was able to run qsynaptics, but there's no option to change speed.
[03:01] <[D-Tail] > the 'unofficial' ubuntu drivers, so to say
[03:02] <redblade> Hi, How do I use wine?
[03:02] <Appelflap> so does any one know?
[03:02] <[D-Tail] > adub: are you going to MSG the howto to me - or do you have a link?
[03:02] <adub> d-tail yes i got to find it one moment
[03:02] <redblade> I installed it but I can't see it
[03:02] <[D-Tail] > heh :-)
[03:03] <redblade> so i there a command?
[03:03] <redblade> !WIne
[03:04] <adub> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu   d-tail click installation guide   and just follow it  of coarse get  your driver from ati's website
[03:05] <vincenz> wh is lighttpd not part of ubuntu
[03:05] <adub> redblade apt-get install xwine  it will make life easier for you but yeah there is commands
[03:05] <adub> man wine
[03:05] <[D-Tail] > adub: thanks :-)
[03:05] <adub> d-tail no problem
[03:05] <redblade> !k
[03:05] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redblade
[03:05] <[D-Tail] > I'll work myself through it now...
[03:05] <Eleaf> After make deb for the kernel source.. WHAT DO I DO??
[03:05] <Eleaf> I already did make
[03:05] <redblade> oops that was meant to be k not !k
[03:05] <adub> redblade also apt-get install winecfg and make a link to winecfg on your desktop perhaps i use winecfg over xwine
[03:06] <vincenz> !lighttpd
[03:06] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vincenz
[03:08] <Appelflap> !dd
[03:08] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Appelflap
[03:08] <adub> [d-tail]    im off but i hope you get things working on it i followed that howto and i know my 3d acceleration works fine
[03:11] <adub> ahh, ok time for my question again im going to try this one more time:       Believe it or not I have never printed a pdf in linux i need to print a pdf i have it open in ghostview but it just prints garble numbers and symbols can someone help me with this???
[03:11] <upayavir1> adub: no luck so far. I've found myself a serial mouse, will see if I can get that working. Amazing to see how dependent upon a mouse I am!
[03:12] <adub> upayavir1   seriously that didnt work??    wow
[03:12] <adub> upayavir1   did you edit and save your xorg.conf
[03:12] <upayavir1> Was that supposed to disable it?
[03:12] <DjDarkman> hy ,a friend of mine can`t use his mouse ,and he has a serial port ,what should he do?
[03:12] <adub> upayavir1 there are other options from within that program
[03:13] <upayavir1> adub: it got the qsynaptics working.
[03:13] <tyler> how do i check what type of image file it is if its readable by gv???
[03:13] <Psi-Jack> DjDarkman: A serial, as in COM1 port?
[03:13] <upayavir1> but no option to change accelleration or anything tht will help me.
[03:13] <adub> upayavir1 did you see scrolling
[03:13] <upayavir1> yes.
[03:13] <adub> fast slow  = )   vertical horiztonal
[03:14] <adub> upayavir1 i thought that is what you were trying to do
[03:14] <DjDarkman> Psi-Jack: not ps2 ,the other type of mouse port
[03:14] <Psi-Jack> DjDarkman: Or serial as in PS/2 or USB? heh
[03:14] <upayavir1> no. I'm just trying to move the mouse around the screen!\
[03:14] <Psi-Jack> DjDarkman: Need ot know which one, guy. PS/2, USB, or COM1
[03:14] <upayavir1> Try take mouse from middle of screen to top left, to applications menu, takes 11 swipes of the touchpad.
[03:14] <adub> upayavir1 oh man my bad i got sidetracked helping someone else bro......so your synaptics touchpad just isnt working
[03:15] <Hoxzer> what was that program to control tvout chip in nvidia cards?
[03:15] <upayavir1> well, working, but _verrrryy_ slowly!
[03:15] <DjDarkman> Psi-Jack: COM1 then
[03:15] <adub> try the speed up options in qsynaptics
[03:15] <meng> how i can get xine to run in dapper? i tried some vids even with w32codecs on, but it won't play
[03:15] <rem_> Hey all. What can I do if epiphany freezes, had to kill it with xkill cze i didnt see anything in ps, I then try to restart it and it wont start. I had this before but then I would just kill the remaining process with ps -eaf and kill , but this time i dont see any process and epiphany wnot restart ... ?!
[03:15] <rem_> I would like to avoid rebooting this machine if possible ..
[03:16] <[D-Tail] > adub - I followed the tutorial, but now... it does things which arent mentioned in there!
[03:16] <adub> yeah there in there i just turned my touchpad on and throw the scrolling settings both to the fastest seetings
[03:16] <Ribs> rem_: does epiphany output any errors?
[03:16] <Psi-Jack> DjDarkman: Tell him to get a real mouse. COM port-based mice are obsolete.
[03:16] <rem_> no
[03:16] <dr-slizer> rem_ maybe there is a lockfile for epiphany?
[03:16] <Ribs> rem_: then it probably thinks it's already running and wants to just open another window
[03:16] <[D-Tail] > adub: I did the 'sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.22.5-i386.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy'
[03:16] <DjDarkman> Psi-Jack: but i think he only has COM port ,and it ran nicely under knoppix
[03:17] <Ribs> rem_: check and check again to make certain it's not running
[03:17] <rem_> ok...but why dont i see a process for epiphany ?
[03:17] <[D-Tail] > then it says that the program will make a directory called 'fglrx-install'
[03:17] <[D-Tail] > then it proceeds to extraction - which fails horribly T_T
[03:17] <dr-slizer> rem_: check if there's a .pid file for it in /var/run
[03:17] <adub> [d-tail]    ok
[03:17] <rem_> ps -eaf | grep epiphany
[03:17] <Ribs> some part of epiphany must still be running
[03:17] <rem_> k hold on ..
[03:17] <Ribs> rem_: ps a | less -- check it manually
[03:18] <ideafix> skolinux is out
[03:18] <Psi-Jack> DjDarkman: Wow. I don't even remember what device node is used for serial ports. I'm thinking either /dev/cua1, but I could be wrong.
[03:18] <rem_> no .pid file ..
[03:18] <adub> [d-tail]  i dont know why it would fail honestly what i did was download my driver file from ati.com and follow that tutorial step by step......they left out one part though in adding dri /etc/modules which i figured that on my own ???  honestly im clueless
[03:19] <Ribs> rem_: looks like you have to reboot then
[03:19] <bliss> hello all
[03:19] <Ribs> rem_: could you try dropping to init level 3 then back up to 5?
[03:19] <[D-Tail] > adub: could you please provide me with the generated debs then?
[03:19] <toony> hello world
[03:19] <adub> upayavir1   did you find the settings im talking about to speed up the synaptics
[03:19] <toony> i m beginner
[03:19] <DjDarkman> Psi-Jack: 10x ,is this a kernel or a Xorg issue?
[03:20] <adub> sure
[03:20] <Seveas> hello toony
[03:20] <upayavir1> adub: they seem to be about scrolling speed, i.e. wheely mouse stuff.
[03:20] <upayavir1> And changing them to 'fast' doesn't make a difference.
[03:20] <adub> good idea why didnt i think of that........lol
[03:20] <bliss> anybody running postfix
[03:20] <[D-Tail] > I'd need xorg-driver-fglrx_8.22.5_1-i386.deb, fglrx-control_8.22.5-1_i386.deb and fglrx-kernel-source_8.22.5-1_i386.deb
[03:20] <rem_> ..
[03:20] <toony> how can I read hotmail with thunderbird ?
[03:20] <[D-Tail] > adub: DCC or mail?
[03:20] <upayavir1> adub: I'm going to try reinstalling synaptics.
[03:20] <rem_> \/etc that was
[03:20] <adub> upayavir1   oh, lol, didnt know that ill dcc gimmie a sec
[03:20] <Psi-Jack> DjDarkman: Kernel.
[03:21] <Psi-Jack> DjDarkman: Learn how to spell "thanks"
[03:21] <Psi-Jack> :p
[03:21] <Ribs> rem_: did it work?
[03:21] <adub> upayavir1 good idea there is also a program called ksynaptics dont know if it would be much use to you
[03:21] <upayavir1> adub: m/c is pretty much unusable :-(
[03:21] <rem_> still checkin ps manually ..
[03:21] <upayavir1> okay, will try
[03:21] <Ribs> oh
[03:21] <adub> personally i hate touchpads with a passion i think they are stupid....i swear by my laptop usb mouse
[03:22] <adub> optical heck  yeah!
[03:22] <Smeggy> touchpads are evil
[03:22] <adub> [d-tail]     ok im going to attempt to get you those debs i didnt back em up so ill have to run through the part of extraction
[03:22] <Seveas> touchpads are better that those keyboard clitoris things
[03:23] <adub> smeggy yeah agreed my touchpad on this new laptop is right smack in th way when i type i hit the thing all the time and stuff starts going crazy but i got mine disabled
[03:23] <toony> quelque parle francais ?!
[03:23] <Seveas> !fr
[03:23] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:23] <[D-Tail] > adub: if you would, thanks in advance ^_^
[03:23] <toony> oki
[03:23] <toony> thank you
[03:23] <Seveas> pas de problme 
[03:24] <adub> [d-tail]    what version of that driver are you trying??
[03:24] <[D-Tail] > 8.22.5 still
[03:24] <[D-Tail] > as in - the most recent
[03:24] <adub> = ) actually i know this is a snowballs chance in hell that could be the problem i gues
[03:24] <adub> right i got my driver like a month ago i havent had this laptop that long
[03:25] <adub> ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run
[03:25] <[D-Tail] > ati-driver-installer-8.22.5-i386.run
[03:25] <[D-Tail] > mmm... maybe I shuold try finding that 8.21.7-i386.run then ;-)
[03:25] <adub> that is the version i used +plus tutorial + adding dri                      and i have the same kernel same OS as  you same type card
[03:25] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , or grab ubuntu packages for it from seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas 
[03:26] <adub> well i can dcc that to you and you try it honestly hate creating extra work for you im just curious though
[03:26] <[D-Tail] > Seveas - is that the same as apt-get install ubuntu-fglrx-686 ?
[03:26] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , 100%
[03:26] <[D-Tail] > seveas: then it's no use for me... grabbing that package leaves my system without openGL acceleration
[03:27] <adub> [d-tail]   ill dcc the one i have
[03:27] <[D-Tail] > what should 'dpkg -l | grep fglrx' give me, Seveas?
[03:27] <[D-Tail] > adub: thanks :-)
[03:27] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , those are the ones created by the ati installer
[03:27] <Seveas> so they're as much use as that .run file
[03:28] <Seveas> and opengl works fine here 
[03:28] <upayavir1> adub: I love the freedom a touchpad gives..... when it works. apt-get install ---reinstall didn't have any effect :-(
[03:28] <[D-Tail] > Seveas: that really sounds weird to me as Xorg.0.conf lists me with an (EE) DRI:Screeninit failed
[03:28] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , you need to edit xorg.conf
[03:28] <upayavir1> How do I install the serial mouse I've just dug out?
[03:29] <adub> upayavir1 sorry bro dont know what to tell you other than try ksynaptics but i dont know if that will have any additional settings for you
[03:29] <Ramunas> hey is there any way to set iptables back to default?
[03:29] <Seveas> upayavir1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:29] <[D-Tail] > Seveas: indeed - 'driver "fglrx"'
[03:29] <Ramunas> cause something seems to be blocking some ports
[03:29] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , and more....
[03:29] <Ramunas> so i thought iptables could be doing this
[03:29] <[D-Tail] > Seveas: like what? ;-)
[03:29] <[D-Tail] > I assumed I didn't have to change it after a package upgrade...
[03:30] <[D-Tail] > cause thats what I did
[03:30] <adub> [d-tail]  im sending file now
[03:30] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8701
[03:30] <[D-Tail] > wow - that looks different from what I had before...
[03:30] <bliss> hello all
[03:31] <bliss> need help with emacs
[03:31] <adub> my send timed out  = )
[03:31] <Seveas> bliss, apt-get install vim
[03:31] <bronze> bliss: just ask
[03:31] <Ramunas> anybody knows how to set iptables to default settings?
[03:31] <bronze> Seveas: ;-)
[03:31] <Hoxzer> how do I load nvtv settings at startup?
[03:31] <bliss> thanks bronze but I need emacs please
[03:32] <adub> seveas do you have int10 commented out cause your 64 bit?
[03:32] <Seveas> adub, no, 32
[03:32] <bronze> bliss: thats wasn't me
[03:32] <[D-Tail] > seveas: I have Load "i2c" as well
[03:32] <[D-Tail] > should I remove it?
[03:32] <bliss> sorry bronze
[03:32] <adub> seveas just curious cause i read a lot of places that you had to comment it out if you were 64
[03:32] <bronze> s'allright
[03:32] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , iirc yes
[03:32] <adub> anyhow can someone help me print pdf documents
[03:33] <bliss> here's what I get when I try to install------------Package emacs has no available version, but exists in the database.
[03:33] <bliss> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
[03:33] <bliss> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
[03:33] <bliss> of sources.list
[03:33] <[D-Tail] > Seveas: and then re-installing ubuntu-fglrx-686 should do the trick?
[03:33] <adub> im viewing in ghost view i print and all i get is garble i would try another pdf viewer but i like ghostview
[03:33] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , if you removed it: yes
[03:33] <Seveas> and restart X
[03:33] <Seveas> bliss, emacs21
[03:34] <bronze> adub is your printer a postscript-capable printer?
[03:34] <[D-Tail] > Seveas: btw - my Device section contains that Driver=ati, VideoOverlay=on, OpenGLOverlay=off, UseInternalAGPGART=no
[03:34] <adub> bronze sure is
[03:34] <NotLarry> Looking for an app like putty.  Or a way to set terminals to log directly to a different ssh server when they start up
[03:34] <[D-Tail] > I modify driver to fglrx and then it should work?
[03:34] <bliss> Seveas apt-get install emacs21
[03:34] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , I'll post my complete xorg.conf 
[03:35] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8702
[03:35] <[D-Tail] > Seveas: longing for it ;-)
[03:35] <bronze> adub: bizarre.  well, test from another pdf viewer and if it works then its not your printer set up.  If it doesn't work then you need to revisit how your print spool to that printer is configured
[03:36] <yanimax> hi
[03:36] <yanimax> I'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?
[03:36] <soundray> NotLarry, create a custom launcher in the panel with 'ssh host' as the Command and "Run in terminal" checked.
[03:37] <bliss> what is emacs21
[03:37] <SeyToN> can someone explain this to me please (Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below:)
[03:37] <adub> heh bronze major bizare prints fine in kpdf  = )
[03:37] <soundray> bliss, look at 'apt-cache show emacs21' output.
[03:37] <[D-Tail] > OK - refire X again ;-)
[03:38] <bronze> adub: ghostview problem then
[03:38] <bliss> soundray did you see my previous post above
[03:38] <selinium_> If i have separate partitions on the same drive, Can they be mounted in different states? read only/ r+w ?
[03:38] <soundray> bliss, I saw several. Ask again.
[03:38] <bronze> adub: take the ghostview code out, wash it, dry it and then lean out the carb mix a little and try agin
[03:38] <meenfreem> hi guys (and gals;))
[03:39] <meenfreem> i have messed something up
[03:39] <meenfreem> and need some brilliant ideas :D
[03:39] <bliss> soundray-- tried to in stall emacs via apt get but I get this responce---Package emacs has no available version, but exists in the database.
[03:39] <bliss> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
[03:39] <bliss> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
[03:39] <bliss> of sources.list
[03:39] <adub> bronze, yeah ill just use kpdf for now on i guess no biggie
[03:39] <Seveas> !glx
[03:39] <ubotu> Seveas: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:39] <Seveas> !xgl
[03:39] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[03:39] <bronze> adub: yeah, thgats sort of what I was saying.... very indirectly :)
[03:39] <elkbuntu> SeyToN, iirc go to the lm-sensors directory, type sudo touch mkdev.sh then type sudo chmod 755 mkdev.sh then type sudo mkdev.sh
[03:39] <soundray> bliss, you're not supposed to paste errors here. And the answer is: install emacs21 (not emacs).
[03:40] <Seveas> !xgl is <reply> Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper.
[03:40] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[03:40] <elkbuntu> SeyToN, oh, and add in putting the script stuff into that
[03:40] <adub> well its time to get down with school work everyone take care
[03:40] <johndd> hi guys. how's dapper getting along? stable to use yet?
[03:40] <elkbuntu> SeyToN, into the file of course
[03:40] <bliss> ok soundray thanks for feedback
[03:40] <Ng> johndd: it's unstable until april 20th
[03:40] <bubbleentity{L}> hello, firstly is there a place one can direct me to for help with setting up a lucent winmodem , i have already read and undertaken the suggestion in the wiki wihtough success, and have also tryed to build a module for it, also without success
[03:40] <elkbuntu> johndd, currently nothing majorly wrong yet
[03:40] <johndd> Ng: usable, then?
[03:40] <SeyToN> thank you
[03:40] <selinium_> Hi Seveas
[03:40] <Ng> johndd: that depends. it might work today, it might explode tomorrow. it's unstable and under development
[03:40] <bronze> soundray: well at least he recorded the error message :) and it was only one line.
[03:40] <johndd> elkbuntu: any idea if the nvidia drivers are ok?
[03:41] <meenfreem> I've just installed Breezy, and couldn't get the wlan to work, so i was meesing about with the network settings... now when i login, i get the following message: Could not look up internet address for . This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding  to the file /etc/hosts.
[03:41] <elkbuntu> johndd, i think there might be some issues with those, but i dont have nvidia cards on either of my machines, so i dont know from personal experience
[03:41] <soundray> bronze, four according to my count :(
[03:41] <selinium_> Seveas, what is XGL then?
[03:41] <johndd> anyone else know how the nvidia drivers are in current dapper?
[03:41] <meenfreem> and it won't let me into the network settings anymore, nor can I use sudo commands in the terminal?!?
[03:42] <johndd> no point upgrading if those are busted - i can probly handle anything else
[03:42] <bronze> meenfreem: do you know your root passwd?
[03:42] <bliss> can someone ssh me and seeif its ok please
[03:42] <_jason> meenfreem: boot in recovery mode and add whatever is in /etc/hostname to the first line of /ets/hosts
[03:42] <meenfreem> bronze, yes
[03:42] <bronze> can you  "su -" to root successfully?
[03:42] <meenfreem> but what it wants me to add the " " as in, nothing
[03:42] <meenfreem> just one spacee
[03:42] <_jason> meenfreem: pastebin /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts please
[03:42] <bronze> meenfreem: ?
[03:43] <selinium_> If i have separate partitions on the same drive, Can they be mounted in different states? read only/ r+w ?
[03:43] <johndd> bronze: better use sudo -i
[03:43] <bronze> meenfreem: ja, what jason says
[03:43] <Seveas> selinium_, have ou been living in a cave?
[03:43] <Seveas> xgl is eyecandy!
[03:43] <selinium_> Seveas, probably!
[03:43] <bronze> johndd: he jus said he couldn't sudo, so that wouldn't help much
[03:43] <Ng> +pointless ;)
[03:43] <Seveas> selinium_, http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:43] <selinium_> I get to view the wonders of FireFox and IE all day long!
[03:44] <meenfreem> type that in terminal _jason
[03:44] <selinium_> Seveas, Cheers.
[03:44] <_jason> !pastebin
[03:44] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:44] <bubbleentity{L}> may i pm someone who is able to help,   question gets lost in the noise
[03:44] <selinium_> Seveas, can you answer my partition question? ^^^^
[03:44] <_jason> meenfreem: just do 'gedit /etc/hostname' and copy and paste to the site ubotu just mentioned, do the same for /etc/hosts
[03:44] <Seveas> selinium_, the answer is yes
[03:44] <apokryphos> check the demos of xgl with compiz -- very very sweet
[03:44] <meenfreem> _ja, bronze I tried to sudo some other commands and it spits this at me.... unable to lookup gethostname( )
[03:45] <selinium_> Seveas, Cheers, i thought s, but i didn't want to try, just incase! :)
[03:45] <selinium_> Thanks for your insights! :)
[03:45] <bronze> meenfreem: do as _jason said, so we can see whats up
[03:45] <Seveas> you're very welcome :D
[03:45] <_jason> meenfreem: we'll fix it don't worry, we just need to see what those files look like so we can telll you what to do
[03:45] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, your best bet is to repeat and possibly rephrase your question. Winmodems are an annoying subject though.
[03:45] <elkbuntu> johndd, which nvidia card do you have?
[03:45] <meenfreem> ubotu, _jason the laptop with the problme, has no internet :D
[03:45] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, meenfreem
[03:45] <_jason> meenfreem: just type the first line of each file then
[03:45] <bubbleentity{L}> hello, firstly is there a place one can direct me to for help with setting up a lucent winmodem , i have already read and undertaken the suggestion in the wiki wihtough success, and have also tryed to build a module for it, also without success  (qry rpt1)
[03:46] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, you may just have to live with your builtin modem not working and buy a PCMCIA or USB one.
[03:46] <meenfreem> _jason, okay.... its empty :D
[03:46] <bubbleentity{L}> soundray, linmodem works under other distro
[03:46] <_jason> meenfreem: okay, and the other one?
[03:46] <selinium_> Seveas, Wow! xgl,is it going to be in dapper?
[03:46] <Scarborough> Im lookin for pages about learning about ubuntu, got any good ones?
[03:46] <bronze> meenfreem: well, thats a problem :-)
[03:46] <Seveas> it arady is
[03:46] <Seveas> already*
[03:46] <bubbleentity{L}> unable to build module under breazy
[03:46] <Seveas> bubbleentity{L}, apt-get install gcc-3.4 build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:47] <selinium_> :) I cant wait for the RC :)
[03:47] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, that other distro -- is it using a 2.4 kernel?
[03:47] <Seveas> selinium, I'm going to upgrade today 
[03:47] <bubbleentity{L}> its a 2.6 kernel, i don't remember the minor though
[03:47] <selinium_> Seveas, I'll ask you how you got on later! :) I hope it all goes smooth for you!
[03:47] <meenfreem> _jason, bronze ... 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[03:47] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, how does the compilation fail?
[03:48] <bronze> meenfreem: can you browse to any web pages?
[03:48] <_jason> meenfreem: okay, do you have any preference about a hostname?
[03:48] <bubbleentity{L}> " no rule to build module lt_serial "
[03:48] <meenfreem> bronze, no internet on the laptop...we messed about with network settings and now the eth0 is gone too....only lo left
[03:48] <bubbleentity{L}> this is a pack that is known to work
[03:48] <meenfreem> _jason, something like smartass or something :D
[03:49] <bronze> meenfreem: OK, jason is giving you good advice. follow his lead
[03:49] <port7> anyone know if seveas' repository is down or issues with the GPG keys?
[03:49] <meenfreem> bronson, eyey captain
[03:49] <_jason> meenfreem: put 'smartass' in /etc/hostname and at the end of the first line of /etc/hosts, you'll need to boot in recovery mode
[03:49] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, I don't think this is a Ubuntu problem.
[03:49] <Seveas> port7, neither should be the case
[03:49] <[D-Tail] > Seveas, adub - please pay attention :-)
[03:49] <Scarborough> anybody know any good sites about learning ubuntu?
[03:49] <[D-Tail] > I didn't know *HOW* I did it, fact is, it works!
[03:50] <meenfreem> _jason, the gedit is read only?
[03:50] <Seveas> [D-Tail] , cool 
[03:50] <port7> getting timeouts getting hid key
[03:50] <[D-Tail] > after I edited my xorg.conf, X crashed.
[03:50] <Seveas> port7, which mirror are you trying?
[03:50] <port7> s/hid/his
[03:50] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, are you following any instructions, and can I see them?
[03:50] <bubbleentity{L}> Seveas, that string you suggested fails as well
[03:50] <[D-Tail] > some syntactical error, I figured... I NANO'd it, fixed it and by that time my whole linux locked up on me
[03:50] <_jason> meenfreem: you need to reboot and choose 'recovery mode' from the grub menu.  That will give you root access.  Then use 'nano' instead of gedit
[03:50] <port7> seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:50] <port7> for the repositoey
[03:50] <Seveas> port7, try a mirror
[03:50] <Seveas> !tell port7 about mirrors
[03:51] <meenfreem> okay... I'll reboot in recovery now then
[03:51] <bubbleentity{L}> soundray, yes, and ok, but i will have to copy them over,
[03:51] <[D-Tail] > I rebooted, did ant apt-get clean, and apt-got ubuntu-fglrx-686 again... after that, I saw that xorg-driver-fglrx was still partially installed, so I apt-got that one as well...
[03:51] <Seveas> ahem, bad factoid
[03:51] <Seveas> !tell port7 about seveas
[03:51] <[D-Tail] > I executed a /etc/init.d/gdm restart and X fired up again
[03:51] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, just tell me where you got them.
[03:51] <port7> Seveas: cheers i will give it a whirl
[03:51] <[D-Tail] > now: fglrxinfo says that it uses OpenGL version 2.0.5642 (8.22.5) ! :-D
[03:52] <[D-Tail] > and {fgl_}glxgears is fine again!
[03:52] <[D-Tail] > not to mention supertux ;-)
[03:52] <[D-Tail] > seveas, adub, myself - you three just made me happy today :-D
[03:52] <[D-Tail] > thanks a lot!
[03:52] <bubbleentity{L}> soundray, i am trying to remember where they orignaly came from,   i will re-find - ..
[03:53] <Aladdin> Hi guys.     Got a problem with users-admin.  Can,t get it to work properly (or at all!).  I get this error at launch: Entity: line 352: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding !  Can anyone assist?
[03:53] <meenfreem> _jason, write over the original hosts I suppose
[03:54] <meenfreem> _jason, done
[03:55] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, have you seen this thread (ubotu):
[03:55] <[D-Tail] > dudes, thanks again... I'm off now -see ya next time! (next month, when ATI releases new drivers, perhaps? :-P)
[03:55] <soundray> !forums 93852
[03:55] <_jason> meenfreem: okay, so now does it work?
[03:55] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 93852 is: Lucent Winmodem ltmodem 2.6.12-9-386 solved! - Ubuntu Forums
[03:55] <meenfreem> _jason, let me reboot again
[03:55] <bubbleentity{L}> no i hadn't  ,
[03:55] <tut_> Anyone know how to kill (without rebooting or taking down network interface) an smbmount that's become fubar and refuses to be unmounted?
[03:56] <catfox> does anyone know a good way to stress test a mail account?
[03:56] <NoStress> tut_: with -f ?
[03:56] <meenfreem> _jason, my next quest is to actually install the wlan card :S
[03:56] <catfox> i want to send 1000 mails to an address for example, and nMB of data to another
[03:56] <_jason> meenfreem: I'll have to pass that off to someone else :)
[03:57] <tut_> NoStress: Nope, smbumount doesn't take any flags.
[03:57] <meenfreem> _jason, it doesn't give me that message anymore! Thanks!
[03:57] <_jason> meenfreem: np
[03:57] <chasmarang> is their any commport commands
[03:57] <soundray> bubbleentity{L}, are you okay for now trying the suggestions in there?
[03:58] <Aladdin> Hi guys.     Got a problem with users-admin.  Can,t get it to work properly (or at all!).  I get this error at launch: Entity: line 352: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding !  Can anyone assist?
[03:58] <lennart> can I use  Linux-NTFS(http://www.linux-ntfs.org) for ubuntu?
[03:59] <soundray> lennart, you know that ubuntu can mount ntfs by default?
[04:00] <bubbleentity{L}> soundray, thanks for that pointer -
[04:01] <chasmarang> soundray:  is their any comm port commands in hoary?
[04:02] <soundray> chasmarang, don't know what you mean by 'comm port commands'. Why are you asking me specifically?
[04:02] <jimcooncat> Please help me find a good article like "No, it wasn't me that sent you that email virus!" to explain to a Windows user about spoofed email.
[04:02] <chasmarang> ooops - sorry!
[04:03] <meenfreem> _jason, i got the wlan to be recognized...
[04:03] <meenfreem> but no internet yet....
[04:03] <soundray> chasmarang, what *do* you mean by 'comm port commands'?
[04:03] <meenfreem> _jason, it still picks the lo network connection by default? any ideas on how i can get that to change?
[04:04] <chasmarang> com1 com2 etc...
[04:04] <_Heathen> Any idea why my laptop doesn't recognize my D-Link G122 USB device when plugging it in?  Looking at my device manager nothing new shows up, and lsusb lists only: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:04] <soundray> _Heathen, it could be broken.
[04:04] <chasmarang> can anyone answer my question about there being any com1 port commands in hoary
[04:04] <meenfreem> network device is on local loopback
[04:05] <soundray> _Heathen, or your USB port could be broken.
[04:05] <_Heathen> soundray: yeah I'm afraid of that, windows does notice when I plug it in, but as an unrecognized device
[04:05] <soundray> chasmarang, can you give an example for what you mean by 'com1 port commands'?
[04:06] <meenfreem> gotta run... thanks again _jason
[04:06] <_jason> metzen: see you, good luck with the internet
[04:06] <soundray> _Heathen, do you know what chipset they built into your device?
[04:06] <chasmarang> serial port 9 pin plug on the back of the computer is a com port
[04:06] <_Heathen> rt2500
[04:07] <soundray> _Heathen, that should be detected if you run a stock breezy kernel.
[04:07] <Aladdin> _jason, got a sec?
[04:07] <soundray> _Heathen, I suggest you ask for a replacement.
[04:07] <_jason> Aladdin: sorry, kind of busy right now, try asking the channel
[04:07] <_Heathen> soundray: *nod*, thanks - hope they take the return, I've lost my receipt!
[04:07] <chasmarang> can anyone answer my question about there being any serial or com1-com4 port commands in hoary
[04:08] <Aladdin> _jason, k thx anyway :)
[04:08] <port7> Seveas: is your 135D466 key still active?
[04:08] <Aladdin> Hi guys.     Got a problem with users-admin.  Can,t get it to work properly (or at all!).  I get this error at launch: Entity: line 352: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding !  Can anyone assist?
[04:08] <soundray> chasmarang, I know what a com port is. I want to know what you mean by "command".
[04:08] <gnomefreak> in linux*
[04:08] <GreenCult> hola a todos.
[04:08] <chasmarang> not all ports  gnomefreak
[04:08] <NoStress> chasmarang: don't understand your question, but the answer is maybe minicom :)
[04:08] <chasmarang> on the command line
[04:09] <johndd> anyone else know how the nvidia drivers are in current dapper?
[04:09] <Sonobana> good
[04:09] <xerox_> What does it mean that there are n upgrades, but they've been "kept back" ?
[04:09] <Ng> johndd: they may work
[04:09] <soundray> chasmarang, do you want to know what the devices are called in linux? /dev/ttyS0 - /dev/ttyS3
[04:09] <gnomefreak> chasmarang: yes i know what a comm port is but what im saying is i dont think linux uses those terms
[04:09] <Ng> johndd: if you need to ask about dapper, don't run it, or run it on a system you don't mind breaking
[04:09] <Ng> johndd: it's simply not possible to answer your question because they may be changed tomorrow and break
[04:10] <chasmarang> right thank you people
[04:10] <soundray> chasmarang, did you get the info you needed?
[04:11] <chasmarang> yes soundray thanks
[04:11] <Ng> johndd: I updated my dapper machine a few days ago and they worked then, but your mileage may vary
[04:12] <gnomefreak> i had almost 200 updates yesterday for dapper and it still works :)
[04:12] <soundray> gnomefreak, whoa! That's a sid type of experience :)
[04:12] <gnomefreak> maybe it was monday :(
[04:12] <Ng> gnomefreak: for you, I bet it broke for some people ;)
[04:12] <Ng> which is as it should be
[04:13] <SeyToN> how to open a file mkdev.sh ? (./mkdev.sh or nano mkdev.sh)?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Ng: oh im sure it did with 200 updates something is bound to break on unstablel
[04:13] <gnomefreak> SeyToN: sh file.sh
[04:13] <SeyToN> thanks
[04:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:14] <soundray> SeyToN, by "open", do you mean "edit" or "run"?
[04:14] <SeyToN> run
[04:15] <soundray> SeyToN, okay, just checking. By the sound of the filename, you may need sudo to run it.
[04:15] <SeyToN> yeah im in su
[04:15] <NoStress> SeyToN: be sure it have execution ermission
[04:15] <SeyToN> just i dont know how to run it
[04:15] <NoStress> then ./script.sh
[04:16] <soundray> NoStress, SeyToN, if you do as gnomefreak says, you don't need to change permissions.
[04:16] <gnomefreak> sh file.sh didnt run it and if ./file.sh didnt run it than i would think its not runnable :(
[04:16] <SeyToN> i just need to do this (Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below)
[04:16] <SeyToN> im in the lm-sensors folder
[04:16] <SeyToN> in the shell
[04:17] <soundray> SeyToN, are you sure you need lm-sensors? It's a pain, and mbmon is often easier.
[04:18] <SeyToN> the thing is when the distro loads it says an error with sensors
[04:18] <SeyToN> you rekcon just leave it?
[04:19] <Fub> hey, can someone tell me why I have to reconfigure pppoe everytime I reboot ubuntu?
[04:19] <soundray> SeyToN, unless there's anything that doesn't work because of it, I would ignore it.
[04:19] <SeyToN> ahh ok
[04:19] <SeyToN> i just thought something needs to be fix thats why im doing it
[04:21] <fdr> please, can you tell me the name of some gnome applet that shows the cpu temperature? thanks!
[04:21] <SeyToN> well my next job its install mplayer : \
[04:22] <soundray> !mplayer
[04:22] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:22] <gnomefreak> gdesklets has a cpu temp moniter iirc
[04:22] <folkert> hi
[04:22] <NET||abuse> how do people find the ndisgtk? i'm just about to try it with my laptop
[04:23] <Angel_Dex> Hello all
[04:23] <gnomefreak> fdr: to be sure about gdesklets open synaptic and it gives you a nice discription of what sensors are there (i think)
[04:24] <fdr> thank you
[04:24] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak Hola
[04:24] <gnomefreak> yw fdr
[04:24] <gnomefreak> gm Angel_Dex
[04:24] <Fub> how do I add a command to bootup?
[04:24] <Angel_Dex> gnomefreak sup?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> nothing trying to wake up
[04:24] <Angel_Dex> coolcool
[04:24] <soundray> Fub, it depends on when you need it executed. Often /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is a good place.
[04:25] <Fub> thanks
[04:25] <NET||abuse> wow,,,, that was EASY!
[04:25] <NET||abuse> takes alot of the awkward bloody setup outa things, ndisgtk, simple little tool, but does the trick nicely
[04:26] <Angel_Dex> why do i have acces ?170? comin from my sound
[04:26] <Angel_Dex> <.<
[04:26] <fdr> gnomefreak, thanks, sensors-applet makes it fine for me :-)
[04:26] <lennart> can anyone tell me how to go into my ntfs partition with ubuntu?
[04:27] <soundray> !ntfs
[04:27] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:27] <lennart> k thnx
[04:27] <Fub> eh, soundray how do I add it? What I need is for mount -a to be run sometime after hotplug
[04:27] <fdr> ubotu, please tell me about restricted formats
[04:27] <ubotu> fdr: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <soundray> Fub, just insert it before the exit line at the end. It's run after hotplug then.
[04:29] <Fub> thanks soundray
[04:29] <Appelflap> aarg
[04:29] <soundray> Fub, you could also configure hotplug scripts to mount something for you.
[04:29] <jimcooncat> ubotu, tell fdr about restricted
[04:29] <MetaMorfoziS> !photoshop
[04:29] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <Fub> I'll cross my fingers at next boot
[04:29] <Appelflap> damn you geeks with free tiem and blind trust!
[04:29] <Fub> soundray, I don't think I need to complicate things further
[04:30] <Appelflap> i dont know how far along my hd cloning is
[04:30] <fdr> jimcooncat, thanks, why didn't it work when I asked directly the bot?
[04:30] <upayavir1> adub: I've done it!
[04:30] <Appelflap> and does this work?
[04:30] <soundray> fdr, you were too polite :)
[04:30] <Appelflap> i never see any one answer
[04:31] <jimcooncat> soundray: haha
[04:31] <gnomefreak> the bot doesnt know please lol
[04:31] <Twiggy> Whats teh default mysql admin username/password?  I can't reconfigure this package without them and I have no clue
[04:31] <upayavir1> adub: Looking in the /usr/share/docs/....synaptic..../README.Debian, it showed properties for min/max speed. I multiplied those by ten, and it worked.
[04:31] <upayavir1> adub: Thank you!
[04:32] <SeyToN> whats gcc/g++ its a development package?
[04:32] <gnomefreak> gcc is a C compiler
[04:32] <NoStress> it's a compiler
[04:32] <soundray> !gcc
[04:32] <ubotu> well, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:32] <NoStress> gnomefreak: not only c :)
[04:33] <gnomefreak> SeyToN: sudo apt-get install build-essential should get you both gcc and g++
[04:33] <gnomefreak> NoStress: gcc is only C
[04:33] <Loko_> /list
[04:33] <ubuntu> hello
[04:33] <soundray> gnomefreak, are you sure?
[04:33] <SeyToN> but do i need to install gcc/g++ for mplayer?
[04:33] <soundray> SeyToN, only if you compile from source.
[04:34] <gnomefreak> there are many versions of gcc but gcc is for C g++ is for C++
[04:34] <gnomefreak> there is a version of gcc for most lang.
[04:34] <soundray> gnomefreak, gcc = GNU Compiler Collection (formerly, the "GNU C Compiler")
[04:34] <NoStress> gnomefreak: really ? http://gcc.gnu.org/
[04:35] <gnomefreak> the package that all of the gcc compilers are under is called gcc but they have different ones for langs.
[04:36] <gnomefreak> guys look in synaptic there are 50 or so gcc compiliers :)
[04:36] <soundray> gnomefreak, so why then do you say "gcc is only C"?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ive tried using gcc for c++ and it doesnt work
[04:37] <pdkl> can someone test an FTP connection?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> soundray: gcc file.c -o file   is a C compile command if you use g++ file.c -o file it wont work you need to use g++
[04:37] <Ng> gnomefreak: you may need the g++ packages
[04:37] <gnomefreak> im sorry gcc*
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Ng: thats my point there are different packages for each lang
[04:38] <ita> sorry for crossposting : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20156 <- is this bug still in 5.10 ?
[04:38] <soundray> gnomefreak, all I'm saying is that your unqualified statement "gcc is only C" is patently wrong.
[04:38] <Ng> gnomefreak: .c means C. you probably want to name your files .cpp or something
[04:38] <Ng> gnomefreak: or use -x
[04:39] <gnomefreak> Ng: i know all that to compile a cpp you need g++
[04:39] <lennart> where can I find codecs for playing music and video(mpeg, mp3 etc)?
[04:40] <Ng> gnomefreak: gcc is just a frontend, it's not a compiler, it calls c89 or c99 to compile .c files
[04:40] <m0wax> I have just installed samba on ubuntu and I followed the ubuntu guide to creating a public share that is open to all http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba (ie no u/p).  However I am still being asked for a u/p from my windows machine.  Here is my conf http://pastebin.com/556039 .........any ideas
[04:40] <soundray> !tell lennart about restricted
[04:40] <SaLoMoN> !tell SaLoMoN  about restricted
[04:40] <soundray> !tell lennart about FreeFormats
[04:41] <soundray> SaLoMoN, you can also /msg ubotu restricted
[04:41] <SaLoMoN> !tell SaLoMoN about FreeFormats
[04:42] <Angel_Dex> If i copy a CD image to Disk can i boot off it with grub
[04:43] <Angel_Dex> o.o
[04:43] <lennart> soundray thnx its legal in my country :P
[04:43] <soundray> lennart, it's not just about legality, but about freedom, too.
[04:44] <soundray> Angel_Dex, I've seen this discussed somewhere for Knoppix iso's. Web search?
[04:44] <NoStress> the pb is software patent ?
[04:44] <lennart> soundray huh I dont understand
[04:45] <Angel_Dex> soundray >.> I think that was me
[04:45] <gnomefreak> brb gotta boot to win for a few
[04:45] <soundray> lennart, NoStress, the problem is that some formats are encumbered with restrictions that make it impossible to play/encode them with free (as in speech) software.
[04:46] <Angel_Dex> i wish i had windows 2k TT_TT I need it for webcams wma format and voice chat only
[04:46] <soundray> Angel_Dex, it was howto type information about booting isos.
[04:47] <Angel_Dex> soundray ah ok cuz i was discusing that with some pple befor
[04:47] <soundray> Angel_Dex, I don't mean here.
[04:47] <Angel_Dex> ok
[04:48] <soundray> Angel_Dex, http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Hd_Based_HowTo
[04:50] <Angel_Dex> soundray thankies
[04:51] <brukental> hello, does anyone have a link or the title of a good book on TCP/IP especially at the pack level?
[04:51] <Deepz> hihi
[04:51] <brukental> just need a quick referance, etc.
[04:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !sources
[04:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:52] <Deepz> i updated my kernel to 2.6.12-10-386, and now i cannot reinstall ndiswrapper, make install brings this error: cannot find kernel source in lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build
[04:55] <brukental> deepz
[04:55] <brukental> deepz: did the install or the download of your kernel get interupted?
[04:55] <Deepz> no
[04:56] <Deepz> it was successful
[04:56] <Deepz> but ndiswrapper stopped functioning, so i figured i needed to reinstall it under the new kernel
[04:56] <brukental> deepz: hang on a sec..
[04:56] <Deepz> ok thanks
[04:56] <Angel_Dex> funkyHat hola
[04:57] <funkyHat> hey Angel_Dex
[04:57] <brukental> deepz: looked up that on my system, I dont have /build either... gimme another sec.
[04:57] <Deepz> kk
[04:58] <Angel_Dex> funkyHat i got a newer computer now i bought a compaq 933mhz 128mb of ram built in sound and vid for 75$ added 256mb of ram for 33$ my vidcard and a 120gig spanken new wd HD i had
[04:58] <diesel> Anyone had good luck with apt-pinning breezy sources and using *some* of the packages in dapper?
[04:58] <soundray> Deepz, why do you recompile? ndiswrapper should work just like that if you install ndiswrapper-utils.
[04:58] <m0wax> I have just installed samba on ubuntu and I followed the ubuntu guide to creating a public share that is open to all http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba (ie no u/p).  However I am still being asked for a u/p from my windows machine.  Here is my conf http://pastebin.com/556039 .........any ideas?
[04:59] <Deepz> thats what i thought, but it stopped functioning, the wlan0 interface just got deleted somehow during the upgrade
[04:59] <brukental> deepz: do you have build-essential installed??
[04:59] <Deepz> yes
[04:59] <Deepz> i have all build packages, gcc, cpp, g++ etc
[04:59] <Deepz> plus all kernel headers
[04:59] <soundray> Deepz, did you do modprobe ndiswrapper and then do the configuration?
[05:00] <cappiz> hum... i did a : e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/itcrypt under a screen... now i cant detache it.. how can i see whats going on... and if e2fsck -f actually are doing something...? if a abort e2fsck -f , would my filesystem be broken then?
[05:00] <Deepz> i cant get as far as modprobe because it wont initiate installation
[05:00] <Deepz> but it all worked fine under the other kernel b4 update
[05:01] <soundray> Deepz, I suggest you do this: 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils' (expect this to say "already the newest...". Then just enter 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and see if the interface appears. If not, reinstall your driver.
[05:02] <soundray> Deepz, compiling *should* not be necessary.
[05:02] <soundray> Deepz, view compiling as a last resort.
[05:02] <Deepz> ok
[05:02] <cappiz> c
[05:02] <cappiz> anyone?
[05:02] <brukental> heheheh or do Gentoo!
[05:03] <Deepz> tnx for the info, im pretty new to linux, ill try out your suggesstion
[05:03] <brukental> cap, why did you do fsck in the first place?
[05:03] <soundray> cappiz, are you saying you can't detach or attach?
[05:03] <cappiz> detach
[05:03] <cappiz> screen is open
[05:03] <cappiz> i cant detach
[05:03] <soundray> cappiz, why do you want to detach?
[05:04] <brukental> cap, and no your filesystem will not get corrupted by running a forced fsck.
[05:04] <soundray> cappiz, and what do you get when you do Ctrl-A D ?
[05:04] <cappiz> wel... if i abort the e2fsck
[05:04] <soundray> brukental, it might, if it gets interrupted.
[05:04] <cappiz> would it be broken?
[05:04] <soundray> cappiz, there is that risk.
[05:05] <brukental> why did you run forced?
[05:05] <cappiz> soundray thats why i wanna detache it... and nothing happens if i do Ctrl-A D
[05:05] <cappiz> brukental reseize my lvm
[05:05] <soundray> cappiz, are you running screen in a terminal?
[05:05] <cappiz> yeah
[05:06] <soundray> cappiz, can you open another terminal window and run screen -R -D
[05:06] <brukental> humph....
[05:06] <brukental> heheh
[05:06] <cappiz> soundray i can open a new terminal
[05:07] <cappiz> what happens with screen -R -D ?
[05:07] <soundray> cappiz, you force the other session to detach and to attach to the new screen you're running in the new terminal (man screen)
[05:07] <catfox> how can i do something like: while 1 < 10 - but in a bash script?
[05:07] <cappiz> soundray and what if it fails?
[05:08] <soundray> catfox: for i in $(seq 1 10) ; do echo $i ; done
[05:08] <catfox> soundray, star. thanks
[05:08] <soundray> cappiz, then you're out of luck.
[05:08] <amauryg> saludos
[05:08] <soundray> cappiz, the filesystem you're checking, is it mounted?
[05:08] <amauryg> yes
[05:09] <cappiz> soundray no
[05:09] <cappiz> its not mounted
[05:09] <instabin> how do i open a rar file in linux
[05:09] <instabin> !rar
[05:09] <ubotu> hmm... rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:10] <amauryg> saludos
[05:10] <farous> anyone having trouble with openoffice that it always start in max mode and most of the time out of screen?
[05:10] <cappiz> but is it possible to see if the started e2fsck -f is doing something ?
[05:10] <brukental> sound, do you know of a decent guid to tcp/ip especially at the packe level.. an introduction
[05:10] <brukental> cappiz, do jobs
[05:11] <soundray> cappiz, run top and see if it consumes CPU.
[05:11] <cappiz> it does
[05:11] <cappiz> from 2-7%
[05:11] <soundray> cappiz, can you see/hear hd activity?
[05:11] <cappiz> its not located at my place
[05:11] <soundray> cappiz, give me a sec...
[05:11] <cappiz> k :)
[05:12] <brukental> or just do ps -aux
[05:12] <tomasz> hi - I keep forgetting how to get rid of this GPG error massage (invalid signature) that happens perpeturally with package manager - what should I delete ??? (tanks)
[05:12] <cappiz> brukental it would show it started
[05:12] <cappiz> not if its hanging
[05:13] <soundray> cappiz, what do you actually see in the screen where the fsck is running?
[05:13] <cappiz> e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/itcrypt
[05:13] <cappiz> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[05:13] <cappiz> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[05:13] <cappiz> this
[05:14] <soundray> cappiz, how long has it been like that?
[05:14] <brukental> thats all?
[05:14] <cappiz> yeah
[05:14] <mod^> umm.. I can't get squirrelmail work
[05:14] <brukental> how about in top... is it consuming resources.
[05:14] <brukental> mod, lol
[05:14] <mod^> I followed this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[05:15] <mod^> and now configtest.php says
[05:15] <mod^> Warning: fsockopen(): unable to connect to localhost:25 in /usr/share/squirrelmail/src/configtest.php on line 205
[05:15] <soundray> cappiz, how long has it been like that?
[05:15] <mod^>     ERROR: Error connecting to SMTP server "localhost:25".Server error: (110) Connection timed out
[05:15] <mod^> telnet localhost 25
[05:15] <mod^> doesn't do anything
[05:15] <cappiz> soundray i just started it when i aske in channel
[05:15] <mod^> but telnetting to my domain
[05:15] <mod^> it works
[05:15] <catfox> with the mail command, i can specify the to address and the subject, but still need to put the body in. is there a way of doing that automatically?
[05:15] <cappiz> asked*
[05:15] <Deepz> soundray: i tried what you suggested, but when i do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says no ndiswrapper module present
[05:15] <soundray> cappiz, how big is the fs you are checking?
[05:16] <cappiz> 1.2TB
[05:16] <gaylord> hello world
[05:16] <brukental> mod, is postfix running?
[05:16] <gaylord> g8m: hi
[05:16] <soundray> Deepz, can you paste output of 'uname -a' please
[05:16] <Deepz> yea
[05:17] <cappiz> screen -list
[05:17] <cappiz> There is a screen on:
[05:17] <cappiz> 16772.itcrypt (Attached)
[05:17] <cappiz> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[05:17] <Deepz> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:17] <mod^> brukental: err.. ps aux | grep postfix gives:
[05:17] <soundray> cappiz, what kind and frequency CPU is running the fsck?
[05:17] <mod^> /usr/sbin/saslauthd -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a pam
[05:18] <mod^> ang the grep postfix -proccess
[05:18] <cappiz> P4 2,53
[05:18] <Angel_Dex> How do i get tabs in dillo? TT_TT
[05:18] <Amaranth_> i don't think you do
[05:18] <soundray> cappiz, and the fs is encrypted? I would give it at least 3 or 4 hours.
[05:18] <mod^> "/var/log/mail.log" says..
[05:18] <mod^>  postfix/master[29705] : fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 23: bad transport type: mime_header_checks=
[05:18] <brukental> do nestat -ln and see if anything is listening on port 25
[05:18] <soundray> cappiz, the question remains, though, why it's not detaching.
[05:19] <cappiz> soundray yeah.... np.. but im wondering why i cant detache it
[05:19] <cappiz> :P
[05:19] <brukental> and see if anything is listening on port 110
[05:19] <soundray> cappiz, are you connecting to the remote host via ssh?
[05:19] <cappiz> yeah...
[05:19] <mod^> tcp6       0      0 :::110                  :::*                    LISTEN
[05:19] <brukental> how about on 25
[05:20] <cappiz> thats why i wanna detache it
[05:20] <mod^> nothing for 25
[05:20] <soundray> cappiz, and do you run ssh in screen, or do you run screen on the remote, or both?
[05:20] <Jpan> hi all
[05:20] <Jpan> who can help me
[05:20] <cappiz> so in case my desktop here at hoem fucks up it will not fuck up the fsck
[05:20] <soundray> cappiz, language!
[05:20] <brukental> so then postfix is not running properly... it it starting at all... when you do /etc/init.d/postfix restart does it give you errors? or do you start postfix manually?
[05:20] <cappiz> ?
[05:20] <soundray> cappiz, and do you run ssh in screen, or do you run screen on the remote, or both?
[05:21] <cappiz> im connceted to server via putty... there i run a screen for the fsck
[05:21] <Jpan> i use soundmax
[05:21] <mod^> brukental: /etc/init.d/postfix restart just says "Stopping postfix" and "Starting postfix"
[05:21] <mod^> nothing special
[05:21] <crimsun> Jpan: what's the issue?
[05:21] <Deepz> soundray: uname -a = 2.6.12-10-386
[05:21] <brukental> but it starts postfix without errors?
[05:22] <soundray> cappiz, maybe putty is grabbing that Ctrl-A, so it's never transmitted all the way.
[05:22] <mod^> brukental: yes
[05:22] <brukental> restart postfix and check /var/log/messages, see if anything abnormals pops up..
[05:22] <cappiz> 23 mins
[05:22] <mod^> can I use tail -f /var/log/messages
[05:22] <mod^> :p
[05:23] <mod^> oh
[05:23] <cappiz> ah lets try... screen -R -D
[05:23] <cappiz> correct soundray?
[05:23] <mod^> nothing abnormal there
[05:23] <idefix_> is it oldfashioned to use webmail? do you use the ubuntu mailing system?
[05:23] <soundray> Yes, cappiz
[05:24] <brukental> yeah just tail /var/log/messages, see if anything pops up... I am installing postfix on this machine to check my config also.
[05:24] <mod^> oh
[05:24] <pdoran> ok newb question, how do I confugure apt to install KDE 3.5.1, the
[05:24] <idefix_> why does a "Link To Old Desktop" appear on my Desktop?
[05:25] <tortho> Anyone who knows how to reset the gnome settings/startup for a user? The desktop is fucked for a user, and if i create a new user it works for that one.
[05:25] <brukental> but postfix is not listening to port 25 which is wierd if it started normally and you havent changed what ports it should be listening to.
[05:25] <brukental> what do you have thats listening on 110?
[05:25] <brukental> cyrus or some sort of pop3 server?
[05:25] <soundray> Deepz, that's uname -r. Please post uname -a
[05:26] <soundray> Deepz, actually, never mind.
[05:26] <Died> Hello
[05:26] <cappiz> screen -R -D and nothing shows up there
[05:26] <cappiz> :S
[05:26] <cappiz> omg
[05:26] <mod^> hmm
[05:26] <Appelflap> Is there a linux that runs from fat or ntfs?
[05:26] <Appelflap> i dont wanna format any thing  :(
[05:26] <mod^> I can see :::110 when I write netstat -ln
[05:26] <brukental> eeeeewwwww
[05:27] <mod^> and courier is listening to something
[05:27] <Deepz> cant i just uninstall the updated kernel and revert back to 2.6.12-9-386 then re update
[05:27] <brukental> courier is listening to 110
[05:27] <Died> Does anybody know how I mount my ntfs file-sys? I want to get my data from there...
[05:27] <idefix_> to what e-mail-address do I send a gedit bug report?
[05:27] <soundray> cappiz, do not worry. If putty or the local workstation fails, screen will still protect your fsck session, provided that screen is okay, which it seems to be, considering that it's using CPU.
[05:27] <cappiz> soundray hum
[05:27] <cappiz> it did hang
[05:28] <idefix_> hey soundray
[05:28] <jessy> someone knows where can i find "glibc-headers" package for ubuntu breezy ?
[05:28] <cappiz> and i did a ctrl +c
[05:28] <soundray> Hey idefix_
[05:28] <cappiz> then i got some output
[05:28] <cappiz> :P
[05:28] <idefix_> where do I send my gedit bug report?
[05:28] <cappiz> do you mind me priv msg you that?
[05:28] <soundray> cappiz, go ahead.
[05:28] <mod^> should I remove courier and try dovecot or something?
[05:28] <brukental> this is what it should be tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*
[05:28] <mod^> brukental: don't have that
[05:29] <brukental> humph...
[05:29] <chrissturm> hi! what do i have to do to start xgl after installing the new packages in dapper universe?
[05:29] <soundray> Deepz, can you run 'locate ndiswrapper.ko' please
[05:29] <mlistus> hi all
[05:29] <Deepz> ok
[05:29] <brukental> mod^: if postfix starts normally, it should be listening to port 25.... gah.
[05:30] <mod^> brukental: hmm.. It just says..
[05:30] <brukental> you running iptables or ipchains at all mod^?
[05:30] <mod^> * Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent...                                                                                                            [ ok ] 
[05:30] <mod^>  * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent...                                                                                                            [ ok ] 
[05:30] <mod^> brukental: nope
[05:31] <brukental> mod^: tail /var/log/messages, see if postfix has an entry in there... if it doesnt.. hang on.. looking it up
[05:31] <kwiat> hi there i need help: music (mp3, ogg etc) playback crackles while copying files from cd to harddisk! why? thanks!
[05:32] <mod^> brukental: nothing about postfix in /var/log/messages
[05:32] <brukental> mod^: what does this output? cat /etc/services | grep 25
[05:32] <soundray> Deeps, do you get a line similar to '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'?
[05:32] <mlistus> is there any pointer about how to make a custom ubuntu install cd, with eventually a custom kernel, and custom packages?
[05:32] <mod^> smtp            25/tcp          mail
[05:32] <soundray> !info dfsbuild
[05:32] <ubotu> dfsbuild: (Build Debian From Scratch CD/DVD images), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 1047 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[05:33] <brukental> mod^: bleh... okay sec..
[05:33] <mlistus> does it build ubuntu cds (exact set)
[05:33] <soundray> Deepz, do you get a line similar to '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'? Sorry misspelt nick.
[05:33] <mlistus> >
[05:33] <mlistus> ?
[05:33] <Deepz> sorry, i had to run other comp,
[05:33] <soundray> mlistus, read package description 'apt-cache show dfsbuild'
[05:33] <brukental> mod^: how about iptables -L
[05:34] <Deepz> i get this /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[05:34] <Deepz> its in the old kernel folder
[05:34] <mod^> target     prot opt source               destination
[05:34] <brukental> so no rules.....
[05:34] <mod^> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target     prot opt source               destination
[05:34] <mod^> nothing
[05:34] <Deepz> also /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko
[05:34] <mod^> should I try to reinstall postfix
[05:35] <kwiat> i would be glad if someone would help me with this problem: music (mp3, ogg etc) playback crackles (only) while copying files from cd to harddisk. could you imagine why? i'm using ubuntu breezy on dell inspiron 5150c.
[05:36] <mlistus> soundray: sorry! i thought it did smth like lfs... thanks a lot!
[05:37] <soundray> Deepz, I think you should run 'apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' and reboot.
[05:37] <soundray> mlistus, hope it helps.
[05:38] <mlistus> what about via unichrome status on ubuntu?
[05:38] <Deepz> ok, thanks man ill try it out
[05:39] <soundray> kwiat, this could be an IRQ conflict. Try changing the IRQ settings for the soundcard in the bios.
[05:40] <soundray> kwiat, it could also be HF crosstalk, in which case there's not much you can do, other than get a USB soundcard.
[05:40] <brukental> mod^: sorry had a phone call
[05:40] <mod^> no problem
[05:40] <Stormx2> Can someone tell me what gam_server is?
[05:40] <brukental> mod^: yeah just do it with aptitude
[05:40] <kwiat> soundray, thanks for you help
[05:40] <mod^> did it.. and nothing changed
[05:40] <kwiat> soundray what is hf crosstalk?
[05:40] <soundray> mlistus, so-so. It works, but without acceleration, iirc.
[05:40] <kwiat> (sorry)
[05:41] <mod^> hmm
[05:41] <mod^> telnet localhost 25 -> timeout
[05:41] <soundray> kwiat, hf = high (radio) frequency. Emitted by electronic devices, can interfere with sound transmission.
[05:41] <mod^> telnet mydomain 25 -> it works
[05:41] <mod^> hmm
[05:41] <brukental> huh that could be your problem sec..
[05:41] <soundray> kwiat, crosstalk = interference (roughly)
[05:42] <mod^> I'll re-run squirrelmail-configure
[05:42] <power-puff-boy> hello where am I
[05:42] <Spliffster> yo dudes, can anyone tell me what the ubuntu kernel uses: ipfilter, ipfw, iptables, PF (prolly not this is *bsd) ... ?
[05:42] <ompaul> in #ubuntu
[05:42] <brukental> mod^: what are the first few lines of /etc/hosts?
[05:43] <soundray> Spliffster, iptables
[05:43] <mod^> power-puff-boy: updatedb && locate power-puff-boy
[05:43] <Spliffster> soundray: thanks alot
[05:43] <soundray> mod^, :)
[05:43] <mod^> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost
[05:43] <mod^> my-ip-here       my-domain-here
[05:43] <mod^> the other line
[05:43] <soundray> !info whereami
[05:43] <ubotu> whereami: (Automatically reconfigure your (laptop) system for a new location), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.3.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 57 kB, Installed size: 416 kB
[05:44] <xerox_> What does it mean when packages are 'kept back' from an upgrade?
[05:45] <brukental> mod^: try putting your domain at the end of the first line, after localhost
[05:45] <yanimax> I'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?
[05:45] <mlistus> soundray: yes, that's when using vesa driver, the problem at install is that debconf chooses via driver that doesnt work...
[05:45] <jenda> xerox_: basically, it means they are not upgraded, because something needs the older version
[05:45] <mod^> brukental: ok
[05:45] <soundray> mlistus, is this a very recent card/board?
[05:46] <soundray> mlistus, via driver works reasonably well here.
[05:46] <zulfiqar> i have a usbdrive and delete some file after it was full but still uniunt doesnot reflect the correct free space and shows full, please help!
[05:46] <mod^> doesn't work
[05:46] <xerox_> jenda: is there a way to try to understand what's going on and fix it?
[05:47] <zulfiqar> uniunt=ubuntu
[05:47] <brukental> mod^: cat /etc/services | grep telnet... see if that line, for port 23 is commented out.
[05:48] <jenda> It's not necessarily a mistake, xerox_. It will probabbly fix itself once the depending package is updated
[05:48] <mlistus> soundray: yes, the mobo is a month or 2 old
[05:48] <xerox_> jenda: OK.  Thank you very much for the informations.
[05:48] <fdr> zulfiqar, try emptying the recycle bin
[05:48] <jenda> xerox_: anytime
[05:48] <soundray> zulfiqar, there is some reserved space. df shows 100% usage when there is still 5% space (to which only root can then write).
[05:48] <mod^> brukental: Its not commented
[05:49] <zulfiqar> rdr : i did it .. nothing dpoing .. on windows it shows correct empty space but on ubuntu it doesnot
[05:49] <brukental> mod^: usually if you can telnet to your domain to port 25, and not localhost it means that resolution to localhost is not done correctly.
[05:49] <mod^> hmm
[05:49] <zulfiqar> fdr i mean
[05:49] <brukental> mod^: let me look at my config...
[05:50] <Deepz> soundray: i uninstalled the new kernel and reverted back, now ndiswrapper works and i have net access again, ill try to reinstall the kernel maybe it was faulty
[05:50] <soundray> mlistus, ask Via to release specs to support free driver development. Meantime, best stick with VESA.
[05:50] <Deepz> thanks for your time
[05:50] <Deepz> :)
[05:50] <brukental> mod^: but you can telnet to port 25 by telneting to your domain? and does it give you postfix?
[05:50] <zulfiqar> soundray  : i have 100GB harddisk and 50GB is empty now ... df -h shows 100% used
[05:50] <brukental> mod^: like this... Trying 127.0.0.1...
[05:50] <brukental> Connected to localhost.localdomain.
[05:50] <brukental> Escape character is '^] '.
[05:50] <brukental> 220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[05:50] <zulfiqar> on windows it reflects the correct emapty space
[05:51] <mod^> gah. now it says telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[05:51] <soundray> Deepz, okay. This 'locate' command clearly showed that something hadn't installed properly.
[05:51] <Deepz> yep
[05:51] <soundray> zulfiqar, hmm...
[05:52] <Deepz> when you update to a new kernel, does it automatically copy over your modules to the new kernel directories
[05:52] <soundray> zulfiqar, what if you unmount and remount it. Same problem on df -h?
[05:52] <brukental> mod^: okay try reinstalling postfix using aptitutde.
[05:52] <Deepz> so ndisdwrapper should work by itself without any need for recompilation right?
[05:52] <zulfiqar> I'm trying to defrag the drive on windows and then once done i will check again
[05:52] <soundray> Deepz, yes.
[05:52] <Deepz> ok tnx
[05:52] <brukental> mod^: remove it, do apt-get update, and run aptitude again to reinstall postfix.
[05:52] <zulfiqar> yes tried it on diffent ubuntu PCs
[05:52] <zulfiqar> same result
[05:53] <zulfiqar> checked the forums ... some other poepl have had the same problem but could not find a solution
[05:53] <soundray> zulfiqar, vfat filesystem?
[05:53] <zulfiqar> yes vfat created by Gparted
[05:53] <slashzul> hello
[05:53] <nlindblad> hi
[05:54] <slashzul> is there a way to install ubuntu with just files starting w/ a windows computer?
[05:54] <slashzul> I dont have a cdrom that works
[05:54] <slashzul> nor a floppy
[05:55] <poningru> slashzul: hmm not sure
[05:55] <poningru> hold on
[05:55] <Deepz> hi
[05:55] <slashzul> so Id have to install via files
[05:55] <poningru> !netboot
[05:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, netboot is a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[05:55] <Deepz> yea
[05:55] <slashzul> now that might work, I do have a way to boot from network....
[05:55] <Deepz> sorry that was my little brother
[05:56] <brukental> anybody have a decent book or an online guide or helpbook to TCP/IP at the packet level?
[05:56] <Deepz> how
[05:56] <AntMaz> i have a question how do i log on as the admin i tried admin root and administrators and administration , i cant log on in shell cause i have a virus but i cant get rid of the virus cause i it says permission is denied
[05:56] <Deepz> i will chek
[05:56] <brukental> ant: this is on a winblows box?
[05:57] <poningru> slashzul: you need a boot floppy
[05:57] <slashzul> yep
[05:57] <poningru> unfortunately
[05:57] <AntMaz> negative im on ubuntu
[05:57] <brukental> you cannot log on as rot?
[05:57] <brukental> *root?
[05:57] <m0wax> AntMaz are you sure you have a virus on ubuntu?  I think your lying
[05:57] <AntMaz> nope
[05:57] <slashzul> i should be able to download the boot files and modify XP to start the batch file
[05:57] <poningru> AntMaz: thats not a virus
[05:57] <dle> Does anyone know why USNs are released before the repositories are upgraded?
[05:58] <poningru> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <AntMaz> yea im positive i did a scan its some email virus it probably got in cause i installed wine
[05:58] <m0wax> It will be a windows virus tho
[05:58] <m0wax> doesn't actually affect linux
[05:58] <amphi> brukental: Stevens's TCP/IP Illustrated Vol. 1 is online somewhere, I found it a while back; soryy, no url, but it's the canonical reference
[05:58] <brukental> ant: remove your .wine directory.
[05:58] <mlistus> brb
[05:58] <brukental> amphi: thanks so much, will look for it online!!! =)
[05:59] <poningru> slashzul: hold on
[05:59] <AntMaz> well its effecting mine , i cant gointo shell and type sudo ,well i cant but it doesnt ask me for the pass word
[05:59] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[05:59] <poningru> slashzul: look at that
[05:59] <m0wax> AntMaz I seriously doubt its a virus for linux.  It would be very difficult unless you have been reading your mail as root.....have you?
[06:00] <AntMaz> no
[06:00] <brukental> m0: lol
[06:00] <AntMaz> here
[06:00] <AntMaz> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[06:00] <AntMaz> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[06:00] <AntMaz>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[06:00] <AntMaz> anthony@ubuntu:~$
[06:00] <AntMaz> thats what i get
[06:00] <poningru> AntMaz: you didnt type the command after it did you?
[06:01] <AntMaz> no
[06:01] <poningru> AntMaz: what are you trying to do?
[06:01] <m0wax> what command are you typing to get that?
[06:01] <brukental> ant: sudo nmap -v yahoo.com
[06:01] <brukental> ant: try that.
[06:01] <AntMaz> just sudo and usually its asked for the password but not anymore
[06:01] <poningru> AntMaz: well it shouldnt have been
[06:01] <poningru> AntMaz: you are supposed to do
[06:01] <poningru> sudo somecommand
[06:01] <brukental> ant: root password is remembered for 5 minutes or so after the first time you do sudo with a password
[06:02] <AntMaz> cammand not found
[06:02] <brukental> lol
[06:02] <brukental> ant: what are you trying to do?
[06:02] <hmpedersen> hey
[06:02] <brukental> what command are you trying to run as root?
[06:02] <AntMaz> type the command what poningru told me to
[06:02] <idefix_> what's the alternative for maple in ubuntu?
[06:03] <zulfiqar> any other suggestion for my problem ?
[06:03] <hmpedersen> How do i change the resolution?
[06:03] <brukental> ant: yes, but what is your ultimate goal, what are you trying to accomplish, what are you trying to do?
[06:03] <AntMaz> hmped  system->preferences-> screen resolution
[06:04] <brukental> ant: you do not have a virus... dont worry.
[06:04] <hmpedersen> AntMaz, yeah.. then my monitor starts flickering, and when it stops, it reverts to the current res..
[06:04] <AntMaz> try 1024x768
[06:05] <hmpedersen> thats the current.. I need 800x600
[06:05] <AntMaz> or just lower the frequzy (damn i cant spell)
[06:06] <AntMaz> im trying to get rid of this virus but i cant cause iwhen i sellect quarintine it says i dont have permission
[06:06] <AntMaz> hm lower your freqrecy to 60 or 70 hertz
[06:07] <hmpedersen> difficult.. allready at 60
[06:07] <cannibal> hi
[06:07] <AntMaz> get a new monitor haha
[06:07] <AntMaz> ok try going to 85
[06:08] <cannibal> anybody know of any good guides on installing programs to ubuntu?
[06:08] <hmpedersen> ant, im running ubuntu on vmware, i would like to run it in a window without scrollbars, thats not possible unless i lower the resolution.. I saw others having this problem a while ago..
[06:08] <dle> cannibal - What do you mean?
[06:08] <nowotny> hello... does anyone know if there is a way to check what so intensively writes to my HDD...?
[06:08] <cannibal> X_X im noob---
[06:08] <brukental> now: top
[06:08] <cannibal> barely installed this todayy
[06:08] <AntMaz> i dont know then im into ubuntu about 5 days now
[06:08] <hmpedersen> k
[06:09] <dle> cannibal - System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:09] <AntMaz> so how can i log in as the root or what ever it is on the boot up screen
[06:10] <dle> cannibal - if you want to learn about the command-line, that's another matter. Since you say you're a newbie, I ssume you don't want to.
[06:10] <mnoir> cannibal - you might start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:10] <cannibal> ok
[06:10] <cannibal> thank you
[06:10] <AntMaz> read everything cannibal corpse
[06:10] <Xenguy> dle: an unreasonable assumption IMHO  ;-)
[06:10] <JloR> hmm, I wonder why I can't use SMP kernels 2.6 with dapper..
[06:10] <alamba> hi all...can anyone suggest me a good dvd ripper in ubuntu repositories?
[06:10] <JloR> must be something they haven't looked at yet :)
[06:10] <nowotny> brukental: top doesn't show the amount of data written to the HDD AFAIK... does it...?
[06:10] <cannibal> :P
[06:10] <dle> Xenguy - What do you know, you big berk?!?
[06:10] <amphi> alamba: acidrip is a decent FE to mencoder
[06:11] <Xenguy> dle: heh - good to see you too ;-)
[06:11] <AntMaz> yo bruk you got any segestions
[06:11] <amphi> nowotny: no
[06:11] <dle> Xenguy - ;-P
[06:12] <nowotny> amphi: that's what I thought... any other ideas... :/
[06:12] <alamba> amphi: thanks! out of curiosity..whats fe and mencoder?
[06:12] <mnoir> Ant - one of the good things about ubuntu is that it disables direct root login in favor of sudo
[06:12] <AntMaz> any one now how to log in as the root user beside in shell
[06:12] <amphi> nowotny: procinfo perhaps
[06:12] <brukental> ant: suggestsions on what?
[06:13] <mnoir> there is never a need to login directly as root anyhow
[06:13] <hmpedersen> Ant, you can't login as root
[06:13] <hmpedersen> unless you add a root password, that is..
[06:13] <hmpedersen> just use sudo
[06:13] <AntMaz> sudo dont work
[06:13] <hmpedersen> (superuser do)
[06:13] <mnoir> read in the ubuntu literature for a discussion of this
[06:13] <brukental> ant: if you have not set a root password yet, do sudo passwd
[06:13] <AntMaz> cause i have a virus
[06:13] <hmpedersen> ant, use sudo passwd root
[06:13] <hmpedersen> that'll let you create a password
[06:14] <hmpedersen> dinner's ready
[06:14] <amphi> brukental: did you answer my PM?
[06:14] <brukental> amphi: yes..
[06:14] <amphi> brukental: ah... you are not identified to services, so you can't PM
[06:15] <brukental> amphi: ack, let me do that.
[06:15] <AntMaz> hm then i can log in as root
[06:15] <disastorm> hey
[06:16] <brukental> amphi: forgot how to register so I can do PM...
[06:16] <amphi> brukental: /msg nickserv help
[06:16] <AntMaz> bruk after i update the root password i can log in as root
[06:17] <keherman> i have a remote HP LaserJet 8000dn printer that I want every app to print double-sided on!
[06:17] <keherman> how?
[06:17] <brukental> amphi: done.
[06:17] <KoruptidPryde> does lspci also list pcmcia adapters?
[06:17] <i3dmaster> how to install .udeb package?
[06:17] <brukental> amphi: you getting my PM now?
[06:17] <xxenon> KoruptidPryde - yes.
[06:17] <AntMaz> well ill just try it out later
[06:18] <SeyToN> when i play mpeg files on mplayer i cant put it in full screen any ideas why?
[06:18] <lennart> how can I set the root password in ubuntu?
[06:18] <KoruptidPryde> xxenon: hmmmm... any ideas why what I connected wouldn't be showing up?
[06:18] <xxenon> KoruptidPryde - nope ...
[06:18] <i3dmaster> lennart, sudo su -, and then passwd
[06:18] <lennart> k thnx
[06:18] <Niekie> Why not sudo -i
[06:19] <Niekie> Spawns a root shell ;)
[06:19] <SeyToN> anyone?
[06:19] <i3dmaster> Niekie, pretty much the same
[06:19] <xxenon> SeyToN - edit your mplayer.conf and set vo=xv
[06:19] <Niekie> Indeed.
[06:19] <yaaar> word
[06:20] <i3dmaster> Niekie, hey do you know how to install .udeb package?
[06:20] <yaaar> anybody round here use pppoe? i configured it with pppoeconf, and it works fine, except it doesn't start on boot.....i have to re-run it each time....
[06:20] <Profichilla> Where do applications search for the standard browser? in the settings in the gnome menu, firefox is set. Nevertheless, some links open in that horrible Konqueror browser.
[06:22] <mnoir> Prof - many programs have their own config preference for browser
[06:22] <Niekie> i3dmaster, I'm afraid not.
[06:23] <i3dmaster> Niekie, ok np. Anyone here knows how to install udeb package?
[06:24] <Profichilla> mnoir should a simple link in the quodlibet infobox have a preference of its own? :/
[06:24] <SeyToN> i reckon its my video card :(
[06:25] <mnoir> I don't know quodlibet so I am not sure
[06:25] <keherman> can someone help me to get my printing double-sided?
[06:25] <keherman> im using cups
[06:25] <meisam> hi guys
[06:25] <keherman> and a remote laserjet printer
[06:25] <mnoir> try googling quodlibet browser pref?
[06:26] <SeyToN> weeeeeeehaaaaaaaa i fixed :P
[06:26] <thegladiator> hello folkz
[06:26] <meisam> Hi guys can i install SQLserver 2000 on ubuntu?
[06:26] <SeyToN> cheers xxenon
[06:27] <thegladiator> i installed the gtk theme but I dont get that golden look
[06:27] <thegladiator> it looks as usual actually
[06:27] <LinuxJones> OMG I just installed Dapper on my new laptop it is awesome, everything works :)
[06:27] <thegladiator> i am using the e17 theme sorry didnt mention that
[06:27] <thegladiator> e17 metactiy is working
[06:28] <thegladiator> and it used to work before as well I guess , but ever since i installed application themes from art manager in gnome
[06:28] <meisam> is it possible to use sql on ubuntu?
[06:28] <thegladiator> i feel that the ordinary control themes are not really working
[06:28] <thegladiator> ofcourse meisam why not
[06:28] <thegladiator> ?
[06:29] <LinuxJones> meisam: yes mysql and postgresql and a thousand others are available.
[06:29] <meisam> thegladiator i mean sql server 2000
[06:29] <Sonobana> why do you want use that
[06:29] <meisam> i need to work on microsoft exams
[06:29] <thegladiator> yeah there are open source substistutes
[06:29] <meisam> certifications
[06:30] <amphi> meisam: you mean run ms sql server? you'd need to run windows under qemu I expect
[06:30] <meisam> MCDBA
[06:30] <meisam> but i dun wanna use windows
[06:30] <thegladiator> not sure if that is possible . mayb you shud put a question into the forums actually
[06:30] <mnoir> u prolly do not want to be on a non MS system then
[06:30] <amphi> meisam: well, ask MS to port MS SQL Server to linux
[06:30] <thegladiator> i'd say for the mcse stick to windows and then swthc over when you are done with the exams
[06:31] <mnoir> MCDBA is mostly about adminning MS products
[06:31] <meisam> guyssssss hold on
[06:31] <meisam> i know all these thingssssssss
[06:31] <yaaar> meisam: short answer: NO
[06:31] <meisam> i know
[06:31] <meisam> i just asked if i can
[06:31] <thegladiator> can someone explian how do I know what is the gtk engin that I am using etc ?
[06:32] <Sonobana> why do you need to know
[06:32] <meisam> all right could u tell me how can i install mysql on ubuntu
[06:32] <Sonobana> meisam: apt-get install mysql
[06:32] <thegladiator> i installed the e17 gtk theme and its not looking et all like the screenshot!
[06:32] <meisam> thats all?
[06:32] <Sonobana> yeah
[06:32] <thegladiator> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28051
[06:32] <kemcco> mesiam - use MySql 5
[06:32] <thegladiator> this is not what me dektop looks like when I install tat one!
[06:32] <yaaar> Sonobana: he's trying to study for M$ exams....he definitely doesn't need to get his practice on MySQL
[06:32] <Sonobana> i quess you have to config it before running ;)
[06:33] <amphi> meisam: you might be better off with postgresql unless you have a particular need for mysql
[06:33] <Sonobana>  < meisam> all right could u tell me how can i install mysql on ubuntu
[06:33] <thegladiator> my deskie doesnt seem to bothered about the theme installed !
[06:33] <meisam> kemcco why..is that the latest one..can u give me the command
[06:33] <yaaar> meisam: you can't run MS SQL on Linux
[06:33] <Angel_Dex> hey
[06:33] <meisam> yaaar ok i understood
[06:33] <kemcco> Google the forums, I found it in there.
[06:33] <JloR> !xgl
[06:33] <ubotu> Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper.
[06:34] <meisam> guys u r telling me many things....
[06:34] <meisam> i need to work with the commands of sql
[06:34] <meisam> tell me sth suitable
[06:34] <yaaar> meisam: perhaps it's because you are asking many things that don't correspond to each other
[06:34] <Angel_Dex> any programs that i can use to view somones webcam?
[06:35] <mnoir> meisam - there are a pile of tools and tricks - you may want to study the ubuntu forums - mysql is not hard to setup and is pretty good
[06:35] <meisam> yaaar all right.. i forgot about MS...just tell me the mysql or whatever u think its suitable
[06:36] <meisam> mnoir all right
[06:36] <mnoir> the forums are friendly - not like us  :)
[06:36] <meisam> mnoir u r as well
[06:36] <thegladiator> i installed the e17 gtk theme and its not looking et all like the screenshot!
[06:36] <thegladiator> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28051
[06:36] <thegladiator> can someone help me out there ?
[06:36] <hmpedersen> Anyone know why i can't lower the resolution?
[06:37] <yaaar> meisam: the commands have different syntax, my/postgresql are connection/socket based and MS isn't, they all 3 have different capabilities/features, and there are probably a dozen other inconsistencies that I don't even know about. If you are trying to learn MS SQL for certification purposes, the ONLY thing you want to learn on is MS Windows with MS SQL server!
[06:37] <thegladiator> it used to work before Iinstalled few theme from art-manager
[06:37] <mnoir> yaaar - good point....
[06:38] <meisam> yaaar is it ok with u something off topic...just a little question
[06:38] <yaaar> meisam: on the other hand, if you "don't want to use Windows" then what are you doing studying for their certs?
[06:38] <thegladiator> application theme , now some contrl gtk theme are not workin as it is supoposded to be!
[06:38] <yaaar> meisam: sure
[06:38] <thegladiator> well it seems all the folks are celebrating v day!
[06:39] <foopub> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and it's using 640x480 for some reason. If I go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, it is the only option. However, if I look at xorg.conf, 1024x768 is the only option listed. Anyone know what might be wrong?
[06:39] <meisam> yaaar can i install MS sql 2000 on MS XP
[06:39] <yaaar> meisam: not sure; haven't run windows in several years
[06:39] <KoruptidPryde> anybody know why a PCMCIA wireless card wouldn't be identifying correctly with "cardctl ident"?
[06:39] <mlistus> meisam: yes, you can
[06:39] <foopub> (I tried to force it to 1024x768 by removing 800x600 and 640x480 from the list.)
[06:39] <mlistus> meisam: it works mostly flawlessly
[06:39] <kemcco> mesiam  You might want to find a MS chat room.
[06:39] <meisam> mlistus sure?
[06:40] <eroz> can anyone help me to get a working cedega timedemo key plz?
[06:40] <mlistus> meisam: absolutely! i saw an install on an xp machine that lasted 3years.
[06:40] <yaaar> so, now for a really simple question....i can't remember the command debian/ubuntu uses to manage which /etc/init.d scripts start on boot......anyone? (the equiv. of rc-update on gentoo)
[06:40] <meisam> kemcco im not talking to u
[06:40] <amphi> yaaar: update-rc.d
[06:40] <fsloser> hi guys... i'm on with the live-breezy. yesterday a regula fsck somehow killed my system (or probably the k7 kernel). anyway, i couldn't mount the drive anymore. i ran fsck -y and have all my files in lost+found now. but the dirs are renamed. how should i proceed? move the dirs to root and rename them? or copy them to a new partition and reinstall the system?
[06:41] <yaaar> amphi: awesome. thanks
[06:41] <meisam> mlistus thankssssss so much
[06:41] <amphi> meisam: that may be, but you are very much offtopic
[06:41] <mlistus> meisam: youre welcome.
[06:41] <hmpedersen> foopub, how'd you get it to run at anything lower than 1024x768 in the first place?
[06:41] <foopub> hmpedersen: That is what it defaulted to
[06:41] <mlistus> meisam: btw, if you manage to get mssql2k running on wine, i'd be interested!
[06:41] <KoruptidPryde> fsloser: I'd back up the important files and then reinstall
[06:42] <meisam> amphi i had permission coz i asked the guys gentely
[06:42] <hmpedersen> foopub, i'm attempting to change resolution to 800x600.. But screen just flickers for 30 seconds, then jumps back to 1024x768 :(
[06:42] <foopub> hmpedersen: Nothing else is even only my list
[06:43] <meisam> all right everybody thanks
[06:43] <fsloser> probably the best idea... but would it be possible to boot from that disk again if i'd mv the folders to root and rename them correctly?
[06:43] <foopub> hmpedersen: 640x480 is just 1024x768 except it's all displayed in a box in the middle of the screen
[06:43] <fsloser> only the main folders are renamed to something like #999999, inside they are still the same
[06:43] <mod^> brukental: Are you still here? If it's possible, could you give yours /etc/postfix/master.cf?
[06:43] <KoruptidPryde> any guesses as to why a PCMCIA wireless adapter (WPC54G) would show "no product info availible" on a "cardctl ident"?
[06:46] <mabus06> I insalled a driver for my DWL-G520 rev b on windows in order to get it to work with airopeek, and it made my device not be able to start properly. Is this a hardware problem do you think, or could I use ubuntu to use my card to learn more about my wireless network by snorting traffic?
[06:46] <meisam> mlistus this is the error i got : meisam@ubuntumeisam:~$ apt-get install mysql
[06:46] <meisam> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:46] <meisam> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:46] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: i'd verify that the thing isn't broken first  ;)
[06:47] <Angel_Dex> ugh
[06:47] <hmpedersen> Anyone got any suggestions how to force ubuntu to run 800x600
[06:47] <hmpedersen> +?
[06:47] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: PCMCIA adapter?
[06:47] <keherman> how can i print double-sided?
[06:47] <fsloser> why dont you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:47] <foopub> fsloser: I did
[06:47] <fsloser> or simply run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:47] <LinuxJones> KoruptidPryde: >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645    might be of some help to you.
[06:47] <hmpedersen> fsloser, thanx.. i hadn't thought of that..
[06:47] <foopub> fsloser: Did that too
[06:48] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde : PCI card, DWL-G520 rev b (a dlink)
[06:48] <hmpedersen> Have been preinstalling laptops with windows all day... A lil tired
[06:48] <foopub> Err, sorry... I'm stuck at 640x480 and want to get to 1024x768
[06:48] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: at console use lspci and make sure the device is listing
[06:48] <meisam> mlistus r u there?
[06:48] <fsloser> foopub, do you have a shared mem video chip?
[06:48] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: I'm not on ubuntu right now but I know it works for browsing the web etc, that isn't the problem.
[06:49] <yaaar> anybody know how to make my pppoe connection start on boot? i ran pppoeconf, and when it asked if i wanted it to start on boot i said yes, but it doesn't....i have to re-run pppoeconf each time. i tried 'update-rc.d ppp defaults' but it said the startup scripts were already added to the runlevel....
[06:49] <mlistus> meisam: yes?
[06:49] <mlistus> meisam: you should be root.
[06:49] <meisam>  did u get the previews message i sent u?
[06:49] <mlistus> meisam:  if u're on ubuntu: sudo apt-get install mysql
[06:50] <meisam> mlistus im on ubuntu
[06:50] <foopub> fsloser: Not sure. It's a laptop.
[06:50] <foopub> fsloser: Intel chipset and graphics card I believe, so chances aren't small
[06:50] <bluefoxicy> 8)
[06:51] <AstralJava> Hi all. I wanted to test a newer evolution than what Breezy has. I've installed evolution-data-server-1.5.91, but how can I make it running? Evolution-data-server-1.4 refuses to die, and I wouldn't want to see it pop up again after boot up. How can I configure my system to use the newer data-server?
[06:51] <Angel_Dex> ubuntu seems to be hiding a file from me that i dont need anymore I created it for a Extention its a text doc with .rip for the ext how do i delete it?
[06:51] <fsloser> i had the same problem with an old computer once, and the solution were adding some missing lines in xorg.conf
[06:51] <hmpedersen> right.. I'll try it
[06:52] <fsloser> i think vertical sync and that stuff
[06:52] <fsloser> additionally i'd check the bios if enough mem is set for the vga card in case it's a shared chip
[06:52] <fsloser> and try the vesa driver
[06:53] <meisam> mlistus would u take a look? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8704
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> So
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> I have a question
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> in the face of a system that's now broken
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> would it be useful to be able to go to grub and say
[06:54] <bluefoxicy> "Reset to default install"
[06:54] <bluefoxicy> and in about 10 seconds have your system set back to the day it was installed?
[06:54] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: what is the issue then?
[06:54] <bluefoxicy> all programs and files on / back in place?
[06:54] <meisam> mlistus what should i do?
[06:55] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: I want to be able to snort traffic from my router without connecting to it.
[06:55] <munzir> hi, I installed ubuntu and downloaded a kubuntu iso, can I install kubuntu from the iso without burning it??
[06:55] <kp_> Hi all.
[06:55] <ardinary> hi kp_
[06:56] <kp_> Sladen you in here?
[06:56] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: where does the data that grub would use to repopulate the system come from?
[06:56] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: have you verified that your card is supported to do that?..... (if you are using ndiswrappers than the odds are slim)
[06:56] <cyphase> xserver-xgl got added to Dapper :D
[06:57] <cyphase> one can hope..
[06:57] <MrRio> cyphase: really?
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  the system.
[06:58] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: i'd let this pie-in-the-sky idea go.
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  I made a post on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-users about outmoding CDs, and threw that in there for effect.
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  it also takes up less space, and has effectively been proven.
[06:58] <meisam> mlistus u still there?
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  we already do it in a more limited form.
[06:58] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: Well there was a driver on the site designed exactly for my model card (including the rev B part, which apparently according to google throws people off) but as I said it made my card not work. This was for windows, though. How would I find out if the hardware is capable? It is a DWL-G520 Rev b
[06:59] <pcadmin> munzir: do a  "aptitude search kde "   to see if the kde desktop is in your apt-get mirror
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  You sound like a poor man with no vision :)
[06:59] <KoruptidPryde> maddler: investigate what type of chipset it uses
[06:59] <beerockxs> can anyone help me to get gtk1 apps work with unicode chars?
[06:59] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: look, you're trying to come up with something to restore a hosed system to "normal" but your script won't know how it's screwed up. so it needs to have a pristine copy of the data from *somewhere* ....you can't just have it "fix magically"
[06:59] <beerockxs> i hate it that umlauts don't display correctly in the menus
[06:59] <KoruptidPryde> if it uses atheros then you should be fine
[06:59] <pdoran>  I added the kde 3.5.1 repositiory and did a apt-get upgrade / update
[06:59] <pdoran> when I so a  apt-get upgrade, it lists many kde poackages as being "kept back"
[06:59] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: you sound like a guy with plenty of vision and no clue what he's talking about
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  I have a pristine copy of the data ;)
[07:00] <pdoran> how do I tell apt to not "keep back" these packages?
[07:00] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: that's a different story
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  you probably have the answer sitting right in front of you somewhere :)
[07:00] <sm> good morning! how do I list installed packages at the command line and see the *complete* version, unlike dpkg -l ?
[07:00] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: but when i asked where the data was coming from....you said "the system" .....which is boneheaded
[07:00] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: look on the manufacturers site for detailed specs and checkto see what chipset it uses
[07:00] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: It does use atheros
[07:00] <SeyToN> how come when i took a screenshot watching a video doesnt appear on the photo?
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  No, it works.  Think about it for a second.  you install the system then make changes, those changes break it so you want to go back to the way it was when it was installed, right?
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  What does this sound like?
[07:01] <mabus06> KoruptidPrydethat's the difference between rev a and b, b uses atheros... but the windows driver made my card unusable.. so do you know if I can find a driver for that card that wil llet me snort on ubuntu?
[07:01] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: then you should be able to do just about everything with it under linux
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  no ideas?
[07:01] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: this isn't worth wasting my time over; bug somebody else about it
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  LiveCD.
[07:01] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: i'd try a iwlist scan to verify your card is scanning and such properly
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  We use a compressed root unionfs'd on top of a tmpfs for a livecd.  But what if you use a physical disk partition with a real filesystem, instead of a tmpfs?
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  Break it?  Format that real file system and what happens?
[07:02] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: Hold that thought, must reboot into ubuntu.
[07:02] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: if the only end-result of you "brand new system" is to put a system back to it's originally installed state, what's the point? Use the install disc
[07:02] <lennart> if I want to compile "binutils-2.16.91.0.6" it says this after running configure: configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[07:02] <lennart> Can anyone help me with this problem?
[07:02] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, what advantage does your magical 'restore to back when i installed it' have over simply, reinstalling the system?
[07:03] <farous> lennart: install build-essential package
[07:03] <lennart> farous where can I install that?
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> MrRio, yaaar:  sure, the install disc.  Run back through partitioning, pick out which partitions I was using before, set which to format, wait 45 minutes to an hour to have packages installed. . . . . .
[07:03] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, the solution your looking for is called a backup
[07:03] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get a selection for suspend-to-ram into the gnome shutdown dialog?
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  Or hit "Reset to default install," wait about 10 seconds for mkfs to run, system reboots, back to the first grub I saw.
[07:03] <beerockxs> i only have one for hibernation
[07:03] <farous> lennart: use synaptic
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  a "backup" will require extra space and/or more physical media.
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  it also requires more time, as you have to actually write all of the files to disk again.
[07:04] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, and the performance overhead of having a unionfs with and overlay filesystem is not worth it
[07:04] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: perhaps i can interest you in my new tcp/ip pipe scrubber?
[07:04] <meisam> guys im recieving this messages would u tell me what i sholud do : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8705
[07:05] <Gambit-> hey guys
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  Ah, the old "This isn't worth the time" argument, just like SELinux's 10-15% overhead wasn't worth it, and the mass overhead of PaX wasn't worth it either
[07:05] <Gambit-> I'm trying to burn a dvd, but cdrecord is saying it can't open /dev/pg* or a scsi driver, any suggestions?
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  these days though, someone DID implement SELinux and PaX, and eventually SELinuix has now about a 0.1% overhead and PaX's stuff barely puts 0.2% extra strain on the CPU. . .
[07:05] <beerockxs> anyone?
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  try using arguments that aren't so hollow.
[07:06] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey anyone know what i can use for a FTP Mangager???
[07:06] <MrRio> bluefoxicy: hollow?? im not saying the idea is bad, just the implementation
[07:06] <farous> bluefoxicy: this is a support channel your chat is better in offtopic
[07:06] <decaf> meisam: this means "mysql" provided by another package. for example mysql41. use synaptica or aptitude to install real mysql package
[07:06] <zAo^> [Ubuntu] Bug: try gftp
[07:06] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Cause Mozilla isn't working with my FTP Site
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> farous:  or dev, but i'm banned from there.  heh.
[07:07] <[Ubuntu] Bug> TY
[07:07] <Gambit-> Actually, is there a better dvd burning program then dvdrecord, or do I just need to recompile the kernel or something equivilent to get a scsi device?
[07:07] <munzir> pcadmin: the issue is I don't have internet access from that pc and I need to use the CD
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> farous:  i threw it at the mailing list too though
[07:07] <farous> bluefoxicy: than you have done your share
[07:07] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, if i were to implement a restore-point style system, a method that only allows you to go back to square one seems useless
[07:08] <jetscreamer> use k3b
[07:08] <Gambit-> ah nevermind, needed to specify the right device... hah.
[07:08] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  If you think the implementation is poor, but the idea is good, then don't attack the idea  :)
[07:08] <KoruptidPryde> jetscreamer: gnomebaker
[07:08] <bluefoxicy> MrRio: Yeah, a restore point style system would be neat.  They're more complex, but neat.  Of course, you still have the issue of corrupted restore points (happens in XP all the time. . .)
[07:08] <admin-sij> hellow
[07:09] <admin-sij> hola
[07:09] <jetscreamer> or graveman
[07:09] <UFO> !seveas
[07:09] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:09] <wastrel> hi folks. i'm having wifi trouble - in one room of my apartment i get random disconnects - i think the card is connecting to a neighbor's network.  where do i look to see logs to diagnose this?
[07:09] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  just like the one I described would have an issue if malware or faulty disk trashed the partition with the real root
[07:09] <pcadmin> meisam:  " aptitude search mysql  "    its look like you would need mysql-server ?
[07:10] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, back-to-the-start is hardly a point i would like to quickly restore to, and if i really wanted to do that, id reinstall
[07:10] <jetscreamer> and to get the scsi device id for your atapi cd burner (or dvd) cdrdao --scanbus dev=atapi (or /dev/hdwhatever) or was it cdrecord --scanbus.. i forget, one of the two
[07:10] <kp_> Hey i have a ATI Radeon 9600 whats the best way to install the drivers? use the drivers from ATI's site or use apt to get them?
[07:10] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  it'd be insanely useful if you were developing dapper and found a bug where when you apt-get dist-upgrade from breezy it breaks horribly, and had to reinstall say 20-30 times in a single day.
[07:11] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get a selection for suspend-to-ram into the gnome shutdown dialog?
[07:11] <Angel_Dex> How do i install a .tar
[07:11] <zulfiqar> i have a usbdrive and delete some file after it was full but still ubuntu doesnot reflect the correct free space and shows full, please help!
[07:11] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, if someone found themselves in that position they would use vmware
[07:11] <jetscreamer> try untarring it
[07:11] <prammy> Angel_Dex: a tar is an archive, you can open it using the archive manager or extract it with the tar xvf command
[07:11] <Angel_Dex> i did
[07:11] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: what are you trying to install?
[07:11] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  touche.  I can't afford the $300 but more power to ye.
[07:12] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  also I am amazed that vmware emulates your real hardware well enough to reproduce specific flaws related to hardware
[07:12] <Angel_Dex> MarcN its a Lzh viewer for gnome so i can play pong
[07:13] <scampbell> vmware doesn't really emulate hardware so much as it time slices and does state control.  The flaws are probably real.
[07:13] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  interestingly a lot of people found that one dev branch of ReactOS simply would not even make it into the installer, much less boot; but it would work perfectly on qemu. . .
[07:13] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: isn't lzh a file compression format?
[07:13] <snooze_> Teflon: greetings from drosan and slipknot.
[07:13] <beerockxs> how do i get the suspend option to show up in the logout menu?
[07:13] <bluefoxicy> scampbell:  so it uses your real network card, exporting a driver interface to your real NIC chipset and your real IDE and mobo chipsets?
[07:13] <Angel_Dex> MarcN yeah but theres kiss viewers that use it to run small programs and my friend said i can play old games with it or somthing so im givin it a try
[07:14] <bluefoxicy> scampbell:  and real video card?
[07:14] <amphi> bluefoxicy: I believe so, it 'virtualizes' the real hw, rather than emulating hw like qemu
[07:14] <scampbell> bluefoxicy: nah you got me on network card, I'm sure that's a stacked.  The video card I think is pretty much direct access and state save.  Of course, I'm only guessing, I don't have the source code.
[07:14] <skazi> Hello everyone..I'm using Ubuntu quite awhile now, and I just got a problem I can't resolve with my mouse, when i click on things with the left mouse button, nothing works..like when i press nothing happeneds...like it's stuck from some reason..then I press the right mouse button and then it like releases the left button..then it works for only 1 click...then again..stuck..anyone got any soulution??
[07:14] <UFO> any ides what i need to install to build ati drivers
[07:14] <bluefoxicy> amphi:  so that 'vmware' Xorg driver isn't really for anything, because you'd really use nv or radeon?
[07:14] <Dasnipa`> !ati
[07:14] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:15] <kp_> Hey i have a ATI Radeon 9600 whats the best way to install the drivers? use the drivers from ATI's site or use apt to get them?
[07:15] <Dasnipa`> kp_ ^
[07:15] <trappist> UFO: linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential
[07:15] <Mabus06> How do I check if a wifi card supports scanning? And if it doesn't, (it is a DWL-G520 rev b which uses atheros chipset) is it possible to get drivers for it that will allow it to? I had found one that was supposed to do that for windows, but it rendered my card unworking.
[07:15] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: I don't play games, but is this useful? gnomekiss - A KiSS paper doll viewer for GNOME
[07:15] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, why has this turned into an argument about virtulization? a developer who needs to reinstate an OS more than 20 times a day would probably make an image of their drive and restore it from this, just as i would if installing ubuntu on 20 sets of identical hardware
[07:15] <kp_> Whoops thanks
[07:15] <beerockxs> how do i get the suspend option to show up in the logout menu?
[07:15] <UFO> trappist, thx it was the headers
[07:15] <Angel_Dex> MarcN thats what im trying to install
[07:15] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  True.  More overhead, but true.
[07:16] <amphi> bluefoxicy: dunno, to be honest, I've never used vmware
[07:16] <kp_> thanks Dasnipa`
[07:16] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: try from the command line:          sudo apt-get install gnomekiss      and it will get the .deb and install it.
[07:16] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: or use synaptic
[07:16] <Angel_Dex> MarcN i untarred it and it has a install .sh? text file and i ran it as a .exe but nothing happend
[07:17] <Elreino> why my gnome is working very bad? i have nvidia geforce 6600gt and 8178 drivers
[07:17] <wastrel> what's a KiSS paper doll?
[07:17] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: what I am saying is it may already be packaged up for you and ready to download if you check the ubuntu package repositories.  The way to do that is with the command line apt-cache or the GUI synaptic.
[07:17] <UFO> make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[07:17] <UFO> make: *** [configure]  Error 127
[07:17] <UFO> eny help?
[07:17] <Elreino> even quake 4 isn't work
[07:17] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: that means you won't have to mess with compiling from sources
[07:17] <Angel_Dex> MarcN there is and i just installed it many thanks DO you think that .sh did any harm?
[07:17] <kp_> Elreino, Can you explain yourself a little better please
[07:17] <jetscreamer> anybody who needs to reinstall with ANY kind of frequency should have an image
[07:17] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  Well why not though ;)  If you make an assumption, and I have other information or hypothesis or theory which may be pertainent to said assumption, isn't it worthwhile to convey said information?
[07:18] <SeyToN> anyone knows whats the latest version of mplayer?
[07:18] <jetscreamer> mplayer site might
[07:18] <decaf> UFO: you need one of debian package building scripts. use filesearch at packages.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <Angel_Dex> wastrel i think its a electronic paper doll for kids?
[07:18] <sebastian> why is port 1028 open on ubuntu?
[07:18] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  that's how things get done, by the sharing of knowledge.  If you want to see a backwards civilization, take away the internet and destroy all books, and come back in 40 years.
[07:18] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: I doubt it.  Especially if you didn't to it with privileges (ie: sudo ./whatever.sh)
[07:18] <sebastian> what service is it?
[07:18] <decaf> UFO: I think its debhelper
[07:18] <Angel_Dex> MarcN nope no privleges
[07:18] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: then you are fine.
[07:18] <Angel_Dex> MarcN many thanks
[07:19] <UFO> decaf, ok ill try that. thx
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> anyway
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> i'm bored.
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> later.
[07:19] <MrRio> lol, cya
[07:19] <skazi> Hello everyone..I'm using Ubuntu quite awhile now, and I just got a problem I can't resolve with my mouse, when i click on things with the left mouse button, nothing works..like when i press nothing happeneds...like it's stuck from some reason..then I press the right mouse button and then it like releases the left button..then it works for only 1 click...then again..stuck..anyone got any soulution??
[07:19] <MrRio> skazi: usb mouse?
[07:20] <veriz> How do I create virtual hosts? Do anyone know?
[07:20] <MrRio> veriz: under apache?
[07:20] <veriz> MrRio
[07:20] <veriz> MrRio: yes
[07:20] <skazi> yes
[07:20] <skazi> MrRio: yes
[07:20] <UFO> decaf, yes it was that and fakeroot too :) thx for the help
[07:20] <MrRio> arg, lol
[07:21] <MrRio> veriz, which version of apache are you using?
[07:21] <wastrel> skazi:  did it work OK before?
[07:21] <hmpedersen> Right.. Now finally i have the correct resolution..
[07:21] <hmpedersen> but alien is simply killing me :(
[07:21] <Mabus06> How do I check if a wifi card supports scanning? And if it doesn't, (it is a DWL-G520 rev b which uses atheros chipset) is it possible to get drivers for it that will allow it to? I had found one that was supposed to do that for windows, but it rendered my card unworking.
[07:21] <rel> how can I re-install my dapper installation. things don't work right
[07:21] <hmpedersen> converting rpm to deb fine.. then deletes the deb afterwards!
[07:21] <skazi> wastrel: ufcourse
[07:22] <skazi> wastrel: ufcourse, if not i would try fix it emidiatly
[07:22] <tonk_> moi
[07:22] <skazi> ive never seen nothing like this befor
[07:22] <skazi> it like gets fucked up when i press the buttons
[07:22] <tonk_> hello
[07:22] <K-Mandla> Hello all.
[07:22] <skazi> like something hit it in some way..I don't know how or why...
[07:22] <skazi> but it buggs me :/
[07:22] <MrRio> skazi: have you tried it on another box?
[07:23] <skazi> tryed what?
[07:23] <wastrel> skazi:  it sounds like a hardware problem to me, if you havent' changed your X server config
[07:23] <tonk_> where I can download pal bg tv program for my ubuntu linux
[07:23] <MrRio> skazi, the mouse
[07:23] <veriz> MrRio: apache2
[07:23] <skazi> the mouse is ok...i don't think it is the mouse...never ever had this kind of problem
[07:23] <snooze_> np: turtle bay country club - silicon dub :)
[07:23] <Mabus06> Where do I find sources.list
[07:23] <beerockxs> how do i get the suspend option to show up in the logout menu?
[07:23] <snooze_> Mabus06: /etc/apt/
[07:23] <skazi> where can I check the settings of the mouse or x server config?
[07:24] <tonk_> what is best pal bg tv program !!
[07:24] <thegladiator> no idea!!
[07:24] <snooze_> tonk_: questions usually end with "?", not "!".
[07:24] <thegladiator> :-)
[07:24] <tonk_> :)
[07:24] <thedward> Howdy
[07:25] <tonk_> but none answer
[07:25] <wastrel> skazi:  mouse section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:25] <tonk_> tell me
[07:25] <beerockxs> anyone knowledgable about suspend-to-ram?
[07:25] <wastrel> skazi:  don't change it unless you back up the file first :] 
[07:25] <skazi> heh
[07:25] <skazi> ok
[07:25] <thedward> does anyone have any suggestion for troubleshooting an automounting problem? (it stopped automounting removable media)
[07:25] <skazi> but what is there to change there anyway? :/
[07:26] <thedward> (I've already checked the gnome-volume-properties settings, and it is system wide, not just for one user)
[07:26] <tonk_> where I can download pal BG tv program like smart tv
[07:26] <wastrel> skazi:  not much - that's why i think it's a hardware problem.
[07:26] <keherman> How can I print DOUBLE-SIDED...
[07:26] <wastrel> skazi:  did you check system->preferences->mouse  ?
[07:26] <wastrel> keherman:  do you have a duplex printer?
[07:27] <keherman> wastrel, yes HP LaserJet 8000dn
[07:27] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know if there's like a Resume wizard for OpenOffice.org?
[07:27] <keherman> wastrel, it supports it without need to reinsert the paper
[07:27] <keherman> does that mean duplex?
[07:27] <skazi> nope
[07:27] <skazi> i will check now
[07:27] <skazi> maybe I need the mouse logitech drivers
[07:27] <skazi> ?
[07:28] <cyphase> MrRio, sorry i didn't answer :). yes, really
[07:28] <cyphase> i'm on the dapper changes mailing list
[07:29] <wastrel> keherman:  yeah
[07:29] <cyphase> and it's listed
[07:29] <wastrel> keherman:  i dunno i print odds & evens & flip in between ... you'll want to search for duplex printing in the docs
[07:30] <keherman> wastrel, yeah im looking
[07:30] <keherman> wastrel, for an hour now -- found nothign that works
[07:31] <skazi> maybe I need the mouse logitech drivers??
[07:31] <thedward> if I browse to my dvd rom drive in nautilus, it will mount it, but it stopped automatically mounting it when I put it into the drive
[07:32] <skazi> anyway i think it came back to itself...
[07:32] <ruudb> hi
[07:32] <skazi> very strange
[07:32] <Mabus06> I'm trying to learn how WEP cracking is done to learn more about security. I got airsnort and am running it, and scanning channel 6 (which I think is the default one?), but I am getting two mac addresses.
[07:32] <Mabus06> I don't want to interfere with what is potentially my neighbors router.
[07:32] <Mabus06> So how do I find out which MAC address is mine and which is his?
[07:32] <jos> you dont need logitech mouse drivers unless you have an m-ub48
[07:32] <yodza> hi all
[07:33] <wastrel> Mabus06:  ifconfig should tell you which
[07:33] <ruudb> I have deleted the first system user and added a new user afterwards. i having all minor problems right now. Is there a kind of fallback ????
[07:33] <wastrel> Mabus06:  or traceroute to see which one your machine is routing through
[07:34] <Jether> Ubunutu is having troub;e with IP addresses, it allways thinks an IP is 1.0.0.0, i have to ping the server first to get the ip address and then connect to it. How can this be solved?
[07:34] <yodza> anybody have had hard drive partition detection with partman ?
[07:34] <wastrel> Mabus06:  arp will list your arp cache - which will have your router's mac addy
[07:34] <ruudb> One of the problems is mounting USB devices
[07:36] <yodza> partman does not detect partitions created with fdisk !!
[07:37] <Mabus06> wastrel: for ifconfig, under ath0 the hwadr is different than both mac addresses I'm picking up.
[07:37] <Mabus06> I don't know how to use traceroute. I will do arp -a in a moment.
[07:37] <yodza> any way to mount them manually during installation process ?
[07:38] <wastrel> Mabus06:  for ifconfig that is the mac addy of the nic you're seeing.  i was thinking you could use the ip addy to identify the router - forgot you were looking @ mac addresses
[07:38] <wastrel> Mabus06:  ditto the traceroute thing :] 
[07:38] <Mabus06> wastrel: hmmm, something strange, can I pm you?
[07:38] <tyler_> how can i covert a ghostscirpt file to a jpeg file ?
[07:38] <wastrel> sure
[07:39] <tobbw> hello, i'm trying to get my lcd to run in native resolution in x, but to do this i need to rum a command before x starts. is there a file where i could put this command? really need some help, thank you
[07:39] <wastrel> tyler_:  gimp will do that i think
[07:39] <snooze_> tobbw: you don't need to do this.
[07:39] <yodza> tyler_: convert from image magic .. would do that ..
[07:39] <jpfarias> hey
[07:39] <snooze_> tobbw: /etc/X11/xorg.conf does the trick.
[07:39] <jpfarias> how do I enable xgl on dapper?
[07:39] <jpfarias> i've installed xserver-xgl
[07:39] <jpfarias> but it seems a lib is missing
[07:40] <snooze_> tobbw: please just believe me, xorg.conf works for it.
[07:40] <jpfarias> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libxglx.so
[07:40] <jpfarias> it give me this error:
[07:40] <jpfarias> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libxglx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:40] <snooze_> jpfarias: does all that appear in one single line?
[07:41] <jpfarias> yep
[07:41] <snooze_> jpfarias: and there appears nothing else additionally to it?
[07:41] <tobbw> snooze_: no, you see i need to hack the video bios with 915resolution...
[07:41] <snooze_> tobbw: i can hardly believe this.
[07:41] <Jether> Ubunutu is having troub;e with IP addresses, it allways thinks an IP is 1.0.0.0, i have to ping the server first to get the ip address and then connect to it. How can this be solved?
[07:41] <tyler_> gimp is too heavy for me, and gimp will convert page by page .. too much work, i want immediate conversion for all pages..
[07:41] <jpfarias> $ Xgl :1
[07:41] <jpfarias> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libxglx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:41] <jpfarias> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/share/X11/rgb'
[07:41] <jpfarias> Fatal server error:
[07:41] <jpfarias> No DDX module loaded
[07:41] <Angel_Dex> i need LHA to unpack LZH?
[07:42] <Angel_Dex> what is LHA?
[07:42] <yodza> ** How to force installation, on partman undected partition, but fdisk detection  ? **
[07:42] <tobbw> snooze_: ok but even if i am wrong, do you know of such a file?
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: if there's really no other way, disable gdm and do it manually by adding a line in .xinitrc before the window manager or desktop environment command.
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: yes.
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: ~/.xinitrc.
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: it's the file that's being executed when you start X with the "startx" command
[07:42] <jpfarias> snooze_: saw my messages above?
[07:42] <jos> lha, zip on amiga
[07:42] <snooze_> yes.
[07:42] <snooze_> jpfarias: mom
[07:43] <snooze_> tobbw: i recommend you to disable gdm completely.
[07:43] <judgen> is there anything similar to opentracker on linux?
[07:43] <snooze_> tobbw:  i did it by adding a line "exit 0" to the beginning of the file /etc/init.d/gdm
[07:43] <PsySine> when i choose automatic partitioning in ubuntu, how is the space arranged?
[07:43] <snooze_> tobbw: i guess it's a bloody workaround, but that works perfectly.
[07:43] <peter__> How do i install amsn?
[07:43] <jpfarias> snooze_: so, do u have any clues?
[07:44] <xcc> dpkg -i amsn
[07:44] <snooze_> peter__: i don't know what it is, but if it's in apt, you do so by "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[07:44] <snooze_> jpfarias: ok now to you .
[07:44] <snooze_> jpfarias: *scrolling up*
[07:44] <xcc> apt-get install amsn
[07:44] <jpfarias> ok
[07:44] <Angel_Dex> i need LHA to unpack LZH?
[07:45] <yodza> peter__: sudo apt-cache search amsn; sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:45] <snooze_> jpfarias: hm, no.
[07:45] <snooze_> jpfarias: :(
[07:45] <AstralJava> Silly question if I may, has everyone gotten security updates for Breezy just fine today?
[07:45] <decaf> what means ubuntero? ubuntu developer?
[07:45] <snooze_> jpfarias: sorry, no clue too.
[07:45] <jpfarias> snooze_: :(
[07:45] <peter__> i do not understand this system! :-( but i do not wanna install Windows again..
[07:45] <skazi> wastrel ?
[07:45] <jpfarias> what about that missing file?
[07:45] <jpfarias> libxglx.so
[07:45] <wastrel> skazi:  yes?
[07:46] <dredd> i have a question about firestarter, is it safe with its standard settings? do i need to change anything in it?
[07:46] <yodza> ** How to force installation, on partman undected partition, but fdisk detected  ? **
[07:46] <PsySine> peter__: in ubuntu you don't have to struggle with installation files that much
[07:46] <snooze_> peter__: try having both OS's at the same time on your pc.
[07:46] <Jether> how do you run a .py as root?
[07:46] <K-Mandla> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu and PCMCIA ports on Pentium I/II machines?
[07:46] <ufo> !ati
[07:46] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:46] <no0tic> I can't use my wireless card with the latest dapper kernel 2.6.15-15-k7, iwconfig tells me it can't set frequency, what can I do?
[07:46] <heliotrope> seveas, you there?
[07:46] <snooze_> ati is bad.
[07:46] <yodza> Jether: sudo python *.py, doesn't work ?
[07:47] <Seveas> heliotrope, sort of
[07:47] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[07:47] <snooze_> yodza: *.py may be bad :)
[07:47] <heliotrope> seveas, i just wanted to say thanks
[07:47] <heliotrope> everything is working now
[07:47] <Seveas> cool!
[07:47] <heliotrope> i REALLY appreciate it man
[07:47] <Jether> yodza, thanks ;) i forgot the pyhton bit before
[07:48] <Seveas> you're welcome 
[07:48] <yodza> Jether: Python Power !!
[07:48] <Jether> yodza, ;) yup
[07:48] <heliotrope> seveas, do you know where i can get a good linux C++ compiler?
[07:49] <Seveas> heliotrope, apt-get instal build-essential
[07:49] <yodza> hellotrope: gnu-g++ !
[07:49] <Seveas> and use g++ (THE c++ compiler for linux)
[07:49] <heliotrope> seveas, thanks :)
[07:49] <Angel_Dex> where can i find the package lha from non-free
[07:49] <Seveas> !find lha
[07:49] <ubotu> lha: (lzh archiver), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1.14i-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 168 kB
[07:49] <peter__> can anyone teach me the basics of using ubuntu?
[07:49] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, Ubuntu mutiverse
[07:50] <Seveas> mulitverse even...
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> peter__,  google is your friend. :P
[07:50] <Angel_Dex> Seveas hum
[07:50] <yodza> How to force installation, on partman undected partition, but fdisk detected  ? **
[07:50] <carpediem-sideki> Seveas: are you responsible for the Seveas repos?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> the gnome manuals are decent also. :P
[07:50] <Seveas> peter__, browse through help.ubuntu.com 
[07:50] <no0tic> it's possible to "compile" fglrx drivers with gcc4?
[07:50] <Seveas> carpediem, hence the name of the repo...
[07:50] <tobbw> snooze_: i do not even have 
[07:50] <tobbw> snooze_: i do not even have 
[07:50] <rocio_alcalaina> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:50] <brukental> what is the name of the confole proggie for configuring Xorg? anyone remember?
[07:50] <tobbw> snooze_: i do not even have ~/.xinitrc
[07:51] <heliotrope> seveas, it said could not open lock file?
[07:51] <carpediem-sideki> Seveas: great.  I just wanted to say thanks then.
[07:51] <rocio_alcalaina> alguien de cadiz que avle espaol
[07:51] <Seveas> carpediem, yw 
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Tobbw then make one.
[07:51] <Seveas> !es
[07:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:51] <amphi> tobbw: you should use ~/.xsession I believe
[07:51] <amphi> tobbw: you can create it if it doesn't exist
[07:51] <Seveas> heliotrope, close synaptic/update manager/aptitude and any other apt application
[07:51] <decaf> no0tic: it's not -mostly- possible to compile a module with another version of gcc then used to compile kernel
[07:51] <setuid> Can someone tell me why Midnight Commander in Breezy is all screwed up?
[07:51] <setuid> Look here: http://code.gnu-designs.com/mc_barf.png
[07:51] <tobbw> Dr_Willis: is there no other file beeing executed before x?
[07:51] <carpediem-sideki> Seveas: I mean for supplying them for the rrest of us
[07:51] <setuid> Its kicking out raw ANSI code
[07:51] <Seveas> setuid, mc and utf8 are not friends
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> tobbw,  totaly depends on how you are starting X.
[07:52] <setuid> Seveas: Interestingly, this worked on Debian Unstable
[07:52] <AstralJava> Oookay, I've got a problem. Security announcements today inform of a few security updates, but none of them are coming thru. What should I try to fix this?
[07:52] <no0tic> decaf, dapper's kernel is compiled with gcc4
[07:52] <heliotrope> seveas, ok, i dont have anything running but xchat
[07:52] <setuid> Seveas: what locales should I use?
[07:52] <Seveas> setuid, hmm, that one looks like b0rken terminal settings...
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> tobbw,  if you dont use KDM/GDM or any other X login toom. then .xinitrc is normally read by default. Or the system wide equilivent
[07:52] <snooze_> amphi: i think .Xsession, not .xsession, but not sure :)
[07:52] <snooze_> amphi: maybe that's obsolete
[07:52] <setuid> Seveas: Right... but it fails in every term, every font
[07:52] <decaf> no0tic: so you can use gcc 4.
[07:52] <Seveas> heliotrope, lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:52] <snooze_> amphi: and i damn don't feel like using gdm :)
[07:53] <Jether> Ubunutu is having troub;e with IP addresses, it allways thinks an IP is 1.0.0.0, i have to ping the server first to get the ip address and then connect to it. How can this be solved?
[07:53] <no0tic> decaf, but the driver fails to compile... is there any work around?
[07:53] <snooze_> Jether: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:53] <heliotrope> seveas: warning, cant stat() etc
[07:53] <Seveas> doesn't matter, as long as it says something about the lockfile
[07:54] <setuid> Seveas: I'm rebuilding from the mc snapshot now (2006-02-13)
[07:54] <skazi> wastrel: why didn't you answer me?
[07:54] <skazi> maybe I need the mouse logitech drivers??
[07:54] <wastrel> skazi:  when?
[07:54] <heliotrope> seveas: im not sure that it did, should i try the install again to see if it works?
[07:54] <skazi> up :O
[07:54] <Jether> snooze_, it won't let me edit it
[07:54] <ufo> Cant install module-assistant with apt-get... ??
[07:54] <skazi> don;t matter
[07:54] <Seveas> heliotrope, that won't hurt
[07:54] <yodza> How to force installation, on partman undetected partition, but fdisk detected  ? **
[07:54] <wastrel> skazi:  i don't know about logitech, i just use generic.
[07:54] <amphi> snooze_: debian uses .xsession regardless of whether you use a ?dm or startx
[07:55] <decaf> no0tic: I compiled vanilla 2.15.4 on breezy with gcc 4.0 (make-kpg of kernel-package is great), compiled breezy's nvidia-kernel-source to use with it. I don't know anything about ATI
[07:55] <ufo> where can i find the module-assistant
[07:55] <skazi> wastrel: but it comes and goes..this problem
[07:55] <yodza> Jether: do not froget sudo  !
[07:55] <snooze_> amphi: uhm, interesting :)
[07:55] <snooze_> amphi: i still use the old .xinitrc way
[07:55] <skazi> wastrel: i dunno why all of a sudden.. :/
[07:55] <snooze_> amphi: works for me
[07:55] <no0tic> decaf, ok, thanks, I use make-kpkg too
[07:55] <Jether> yodza, yeah i did that, still didn't let me...
[07:55] <amphi> snooze_: I think .xintrc is 'deprecated' rather than ignored
[07:55] <amphi> *.xinitrc
[07:56] <thegladiator> can I open kde panel in gnome ? :)
[07:56] <thelsdj> i double clicked on an mp3 in the gnome file browser and it started playing it, but doesn't seem to be any controls to pause or stop it?
[07:56] <amphi> snooze_: I am not a fan of the ?dms either
[07:56] <snooze_> amphi: hm, interesting.
[07:56] <trappist> sweet.  cedega 5.1 supports civ4
[07:56] <snooze_> thelsdj: otherwise maybe it gets possible
[07:56] <snooze_> uh
[07:56] <snooze_> thegladiator:
[07:56] <snooze_> damn tab completionm
[07:56] <Jether> snooze_, ok, i got /etc/network/interfaces open, what do i do?
[07:56] <yodza> Jether: what's the error message ?
[07:56] <pdkl> does cedega 5.1 support my intel imac/
[07:56] <ufo> anyone got idea howto install module-assistant?
[07:56] <pdkl> ? :)
[07:56] <heliotrope> seveas: hmmm, it doesnt seem to be working, is there support on the site for installing things like this? i feel bad about bugging you about this so frequently
[07:57] <snooze_> Jether: why do you ask ME? if you want me to help you, paste it to a query to me or so :)
[07:57] <decaf> thegladiator: possible but not a good idea. menu or menu-xdg packages help to reach kde menus fromgnome
[07:57] <skazi> Hrmm...What is this program? "eog" ? eye of gnome
[07:57] <Jether> yodza, dn't worry i got it, instead of edit, i typed gedit and it worked
[07:57] <snooze_> skazi: image viewer
[07:57] <yodza> Jether: :))
[07:57] <Rahzel> hello from germany ;)
[07:57] <Seveas> heliotrope, try this command: ps f -e
[07:57] <snooze_> hallo Rahzel, gru aus duisburg :)
[07:57] <amphi> skazi: an image viewer IIRC
[07:57] <Jether> snooze_, you told me to open that file in responce to my question
[07:57] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[07:57] <thegladiator> decaf, how to execute it ? shud I install the packages called menu and menu-xdg ?
[07:57] <patric> hello from kansas
[07:57] <snooze_> Jether: right, i did :)
[07:57] <setuid> Seveas: Nope, didn't work either. Damn
[07:57] <Rahzel> oh snooze_  ;) darf ich auch deutsch fragen? or just english?! :D
[07:57] <setuid> I thought it was an iconv thing
[07:58] <yodza> hello from France
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: just ask in english :)
[07:58] <Seveas> heliotrope, and the reason I am here is to help people so don't mind bugging me 
[07:58] <mac19857> hi, is there any different between shell-comand "ifup eth0" and the "activation"-button of the "network-admin"
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: maybe some other people got more clue than me, so just ask :)
[07:58] <Angel_Dex> TT_TT somone make ubotu tell me about adding multi verse
[07:58] <Angel_Dex> <.<
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: i'm not sure that i can answer all the stuff the others here can :)
[07:58] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, /msg ubotu multiverse
[07:58] <decaf> thegladiator: install packages. sometimes works :/   the you shuld have a menu entry called debian.
[07:58] <heliotrope> seveas: haha ,cool, the paste bin?
[07:58] <Seveas> !tell heliotrope about pastebin
[07:58] <amphi> skazi: gthumb is another nixe one; some people like pornview
[07:58] <technomancy> anybody having proxy troubles in dapper?
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: and most people here just understand english pretty good.
[07:58] <snooze_> ugm
[07:58] <snooze_> Jether: so, ask me :)
[07:58] <technomancy> it tries to use the proxy even though it is turned off
[07:59] <setuid> sheeeeat
[07:59] <thegladiator> decaf, how to ru it from terminal ?
[07:59] <snooze_> Jether: paste it to a query if you can :)
[07:59] <setuid> When was libiconv removed from Ubuntu?!
[07:59] <Rahzel> If I installed via "apt-get install" an application, how can I remove if I just forgot the filename ?! at the adept package there is the searchfield ! Only thing i remember was "BIN" inside that programm file ..
[07:59] <thegladiator> decaf, kde panel ?
[07:59] <Seveas> !info libiconv
[07:59] <ufo> ok.. i need to have universe enabled...
[07:59] <yodza> snooze: most understand globish !
[07:59] <skazi> amphi: Ok, thanks.
[07:59] <Jether> snooze_, well when i do anyhting like irc, it always thiks the ip is 1.0.0.0
[07:59] <thegladiator> tweak tweak and tweak , thats my hobby
[07:59] <amphi> Rahzel: dpkg -S some_file to get the package name
[07:59] <Angel_Dex> Seveas i did this but multi verse isnt added
[07:59] <Jether>  snooze_ until i ping it to get the ip, then it connects
[07:59] <snooze_> Jether: WHICH ip? that one of the machine you are in front of?
[08:00] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, sources.list on the pastebin please
[08:00] <yodza> Rahzel: sudo apt-cache search seeking_file !
[08:00] <setuid> Seveas: dlocate/apt-file search/etc. aren't finding much either
[08:00] <Seveas> setuid, likewise
[08:00] <Rahzel> amphi and if i write "dpkg -S bin" and "bin" is not the exact filename? could usw something like "*bin*" ?
[08:00] <snooze_> Jether: maybe you don't get your dhcp config from your router?
[08:00] <Seveas> but for me mc works completely normal...
[08:00] <setuid> Seveas: libc6-dev claims to have it, but it doesn't help
[08:00] <setuid> iconv isn't found by the app at confiugre/build time
[08:00] <Jether> snooze_, do, when i open xchat and tried to cnnect to freenode it said Connecting to irc.freenode.net (1.0.0.0) port 6667...
[08:00] <Seveas> setuid, apt-get build-dep mc
[08:00] <setuid> Yep
[08:00] <heliotrope> seveas: ill have to continue this with you later on, im sorry, i have to get ready for class :\
[08:01] <Jether> snooze_, then i pinged irc.freenode.net and then it said Connecting to irc.freenode.net (38.99.64.210) port 6667..
[08:01] <Seveas> heliotrope, ok, see you later
[08:01] <snooze_> Jether: uhm that's really strange.
[08:01] <heliotrope> seveas: thanks a lot for your help again, cya
[08:01] <setuid> Seveas: But I'm building from upstream source, not even a .deb
[08:01] <amphi> Rahzel: dpkg -S takes regexes, yeah
[08:01] <Seveas> setuid, apt-get build-dep should drag in build dependencies
[08:01] <Jether> snooze_, yeah, its means i can't really do much on ubunut cause i can't connect to servers lol
[08:01] <snooze_> Jether: what's in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:01] <setuid>   Support for charset:        no
[08:01] <setuid> bleh
[08:01] <amphi> Rahzel: you will want to single quote them probably to prevent the shell expanding them
[08:01] <Seveas> and unless mc changed massively since breezy (which I could imagine) it should work
[08:02] <snooze_> i hate compile errors.
[08:02] <Jether> snooze_,nameserver 192.168.1.1
[08:02] <setuid> snooze_: Heh, I eat them for breakfast
[08:02] <snooze_> Jether: what is 192.168.1.1? a hardware router?
[08:02] <Angel_Dex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8706 Seveas
[08:02] <Jether> snooze_ yup
[08:02] <setuid> libpam0g-dev... tossed congfigure at the wrong junction
[08:02] <snooze_> setuid: great, is it enlarging your penis or improving sex skills?
[08:03] <setuid> snooze_: It doesn't need to, I'm fine in those areas ;)
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: hmmm
[08:03] <setuid> whoo-ha
[08:03] <snooze_> got you all in check!
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: hmmmhmmm
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: what about choosing static ip addresses? :)
[08:03] <hmpedersen> I've been away from here for too long..
[08:03] <setuid> apt-file roskc
[08:03] <setuid> er, rocks
[08:03] <veriz> WTF IS THAT: postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/112470.9833: Read-only file system
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: i guess there's something strange with your hw router.
[08:03] <Seveas> Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 4.0.0), libglib2.0-dev, libgpmg1-dev |not+linux-gnu, gettext, libslang2-dev
[08:03] <veriz> nothing that i can do
[08:03] <snooze_> setuid: you think so? :)
[08:04] <Seveas> those are the dapper build depends
[08:04] <Jether> snooze_ ok, thanks, ill have a look later
[08:04] <KoruptidPryde> is there any way to verify that my PCMCIA slot is functional short of installing win32 as a test???
[08:04] <hmpedersen> How do i get information about something again?
[08:04] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: KNOPPIX
[08:04] <yodza> all: How to force installation, on partman undetected partition, but fdisk detected  ? ***
[08:04] <Jether> snooze_ thanks for your help
[08:04] <Seveas> hmpedersen, google.com/search?q=something
[08:04] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: any specific commands?
[08:04] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: pop in a pcmcia card
[08:04] <setuid> see if it recognizes it
[08:04] <hmpedersen> Seveas, the command in here might be helpful.. Unless it doesn't exist anymore..
[08:05] <wastrel> hmpedersen:  /msg ubotu blah
[08:05] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: i'm on ubuntu and it doesn't seem to be recognizing
[08:05] <hmpedersen> thanx, wast
[08:05] <snooze_> jarlev: np :)
[08:05] <snooze_> gna
[08:05] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: uhm... what?
[08:05] <Rahzel> how to extract the *.mpg data out of an *.bin file? is there any gui-application for (k)ubuntu?
[08:05] <snooze_> jarlev: sorry for nickcompletion :)
[08:05] <Seveas> veriz, sounds like either your /home or your /var are mounted ro
[08:05] <Angel_Dex> Hm
[08:06] <veriz> Seveas you mean wrong?
[08:06] <Seveas> ro is short for read only
[08:06] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: I'm running ubuntu.... I've put a card into my PCMCIA slot.... dmesg shows that it detects the card being inserted..... but i can't seem to pull up any information about the inserted card
[08:06] <cas> can someone provide me the link to the sources.list generator. Can't seem to find it anymore
[08:06] <ufo> !ati
[08:06] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:07] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: perhaps its not a supported card?
[08:07] <Seveas> !tell cas about easysource
[08:07] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: perhaps you need a module loaded?
[08:07] <cas> tnx Seveas
[08:07] <Rahzel> is there any option in the console to list, which packages have been installed lately ?!
[08:07] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: that's what I'm trying to determine..... i've inserted two different linksys cards, but i currently don't have anything else i could insert in order to test
[08:07] <veriz> Seveas: but how i can remount them or what should I do :S didn't had the problem before
[08:08] <veriz> Seveas: just some mins ago it was fine
[08:08] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Try finding the right module, if it exists
[08:08] <Seveas> Rahzel, not really...
[08:08] <Angel_Dex> meep
[08:08] <snooze_> some things are better left unread :)
[08:08] <Seveas> veriz, things can get remounted read only if disk errors occur
[08:08] <Seveas> check /var/log/messages and dmesg
[08:08] <beerockxs_> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[08:08] <yodza> all: How to force installation, on partman undetected partition, but fdisk detected  ? ****
[08:09] <Rahzel> Seveas damn ;) yesterday installed something via apt-get install and now i would like to remove, but sadly, i don't remember the name of the application. Application was just for console.
[08:09] <setuid> Seveas: Here's something... it works with the 'vga' font, but not with other fonts
[08:09] <veriz> Seveas: even this: Error writing /root/.nano_history: Read-only file system
[08:09] <setuid> (i.e. xterm -fn vga -e mc)
[08:09] <Seveas> Rahzel, ls -alt /var/lib/dpkg/info | less
[08:10] <Seveas> that should give some clue 
[08:10] <setuid> veriz: tune2fs -l /dev/hda
[08:10] <KoruptidPryde> the cardbus is being detected just fine... the issue is how do I pull up info about the inserted card to make sure that the damn bus is at least working?
[08:10] <setuid> veriz: See if its dirty
[08:10] <Seveas> veriz, yep, your / got remounted read only
[08:10] <yodza> Rahzel: dpkg -S pattern, to get package name.
[08:10] <Seveas> veriz, that definitely means disk errors
[08:10] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: If the card isnt' recognized, then you can't pull up info on it
[08:10] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: tried cardinfo?
[08:10] <veriz> Seveas: Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[08:10] <setuid> veriz: boom1
[08:10] <setuid> er, boom!
[08:11] <Seveas> veriz, that sounds really really bad...
[08:11] <Seveas> backup as much as you can right now
[08:11] <veriz> Seveas: whats wrong ?:S
[08:11] <setuid> tune2fs -C400 /dev/hda1 && /sbin/reboot
[08:11] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: what I'm trying to do is verify that the bus is functioning properly before I order a $70 PCMCIA wireless network adapter
[08:11] <Mabus06> Anyone know a good client for playing MUDs with Ubuntu?
[08:11] <Mabus06> Preferably something that is as basic as possible but supports ANSI color.
[08:11] <Seveas> veriz, it may mean that as of next boot the filesystem will be gone (superblock is quite important)
[08:12] <armin> hmm
[08:12] <setuid> Seveas: Not necessarily, backup superblocks every 8k help
[08:12] <armin> :(
[08:12] <veriz> Seveas: but how could that happen? somebody hacked into system?
[08:12] <Seveas> veriz, so back up all you can/want and reboot to do a filesystem check
[08:12] <Seveas> setuid, true
[08:12] <setuid> I'm speaking as someone who has trashed no less than 50 filesystems in the last decade or so
[08:12] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: for the love of all that is right with the world help meeeeeeee
[08:12] <setuid> veriz: No, probably powered off or lockups without a clean fsck
[08:12] <Seveas> veriz, phase of the moon, bit fallen over, solar flares, general randomness....
[08:12] <yodza> all: How to force installation on partman undetected partitions, but fdisk detected  ? *****
[08:12] <setuid> I vote flares
[08:12] <veriz> Seveas: so i just should reboot the computer?
[08:13] <Seveas> yodza: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:13] <setuid> veriz: seriously, force it to fsck by using tune2fs on it
[08:13] <setuid> veriz: tune2fs -C400 /dev/hda1 && /sbin/reboot
[08:13] <Seveas> veriz, yes, but first backup things while you can still read it
[08:13] <veriz> Seveas: last time I had the problem i rebooted and after that everything worked very well but now again this :S
[08:13] <axisys> anyoen know of a good tool to draw/edit/view visio doc?
[08:13] <axisys> !visio
[08:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[08:13] <setuid> axisys: sketch, sodipodi, dia
[08:13] <veriz> Seveas: does it delete everything or something?
[08:13] <trappist> axisys: use dia to make similar documents, but I don't think it supports the visio format
[08:14] <Seveas> veriz, if this happens more often that means your disk is dying and you should replace it
[08:14] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: shouldn't any PCMCIA card at least be recognized by the cardbus adapter enough to get its hardware info and set up ndiswrapper to interface with it?
[08:14] <veriz> Seveas: or what does the command do?
[08:14] <setuid> veriz: It may trash it if its unreparable
[08:14] <axisys> how about view visio?
[08:14] <setuid> badblocks would help
[08:14] <Seveas> veriz, the tune2fs just sets a bit that says "Pleas fsck me during boot"
[08:14] <setuid> back up your data, run the tune2fs command above, reboot, let it try to fix it, then boot into single-user and run badblocks on the drive
[08:14] <mwillis> Hey everyone
[08:14] <axisys> this irc is sooo helpful but scroll too fast.. i wonder if there is a way to log all conversation to and from me using the irc client `irssi'
[08:15] <amphi> veriz: and/or run smartctl on the drive
[08:15] <setuid> Note: badblocks will take a L-O-N-G time, but if your drive is dying, its worth it
[08:15] <mwillis> I'm having a lot of trouble with dpkg set-selections
[08:15] <veriz> Seveas: ok trying to reboot... but i think that with my disk is something wrong
[08:15] <Seveas> KoruptidPryde, lspci should list it even without ndiswrapper installed
[08:15] <veriz> Seveas: Hard disk..
[08:15] <setuid> veriz: Make sure you reboot after running tune2fs
[08:15] <mwillis> it simply doesn't seem to have any effect on dpkg's selected packages list
[08:15] <Seveas> veriz, I think so too, you really should replace it
[08:15] <setuid> Otherwise it will mount it rw, which might trash it worse
[08:15] <psusi> you also might want to use the smarttools package to query the drive and find out if it thinks it is dieing
[08:15] <setuid> Or replay the journal across corrupted inodes, NEVER a good plan
[08:16] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: it doesn't.... which makes me think that my PCMCIA slot is broken.... but dmesg shows that the kernel is recognizing cards being inserted andremoved from it
[08:16] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Then it probably works
[08:16] <mwillis> Does anyone know about dpkg set-selections?
[08:16] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: and the bus IS providing power to the card
[08:16] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: but then why can't I see either of the two different and functional cards in lspci?
[08:17] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: what makes you think the bus is broken?
[08:17] <Rahzel> how to extract the *.mpg data out of an *.bin file? is there any gui-application for (k)ubuntu? <--- found myself a solution maybe .. http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/vcdgrab/vcdgrab-0.1.tar.gz ... If someone were searching for something like this.
[08:17] <thelsdj> axisys: /set autolog on
[08:17] <thelsdj> will log to ~/irclogs/ i believe
[08:17] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: the fact that nothing shows up in lspci after inserting two different cards
[08:17] <fabiob> Rahzel, already tried with mplayer?
[08:17] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: did you install the driver/module for those cards?
[08:18] <Rahzel> fabiob I need to extract the file. Viewing the file is no problem.
[08:18] <axisys> thelsdj: kool .. i just set that
[08:18] <axisys> thelsdj: thnx
[08:18] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas, setuid: they are linksys broadcom cards..... there is no native module, hence the ndiswrappers
[08:18] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Try a card that Linux supports
[08:18] <snoozix> re.
[08:18] <psusi> Rahzel: assuming the bin file is an image of a vcd and has an accompanying cue sheet?
[08:18] <setuid> broadcom cards in Linux suck
[08:18] <snoozix> setuid: right.
[08:18] <fabiob> Rahzel, mplayer has loads of options, I'm sure it's got the ones for dumping a stream as well
[08:19] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: I can't without buying one... and I don't want to buy one if it turns out my bus is bad
[08:19] <Rahzel> psusi it has got *.cue and is a moviefile.
[08:19] <setuid> Support vendors that support Linux, don't rant at Linux for sucking because vendors don't provide docs or code
[08:19] <axisys> thelsdj: it is working.. i guess i can always grep my name from the log to see only to and from my nick
[08:19] <psusi> Rahzel: if there is only one track inside it, then I think you can just rename it
[08:19] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Go to an electronics store (Radio Shack? Apple Store) and bring your laptop, plug in a card, and see if it sees it
[08:19] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: I have the same problem, I think. No life at the PCMCIA ports.
[08:19] <Rahzel> psusi most of the time, there are some dir's in it.
[08:20] <mac19857> hi, is there any different between shell-comand "ifup eth0" and the "activation"-button of the "network-admin"
[08:20] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: what type of laptop and what type of card?
[08:20] <Rahzel> wish the best for me to compile that stuff :D
[08:20] <psusi> Rahzel: if it is a cdi then there aren't... cdi doesn't have a filesystem with a directory tree afaik, it's just an mpeg stream
[08:20] <kp_> Hi all i have followed the ubuntu guide for installing my ati drivers, OpenGL screensavers run perfectly now but i just had a look at glxgears and it is really slow. any ideas?
[08:20] <setuid> Seveas: this is weird, mc -x, mc -b and mc -t all produce the same results
[08:21] <trappist> kp_: you can't tell by looking at glxgears whether it's going slow
[08:21] <fabiob> Has anybody tried xserver-xgl?
[08:21] <veriz> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:21] <kp_> Oh so it doesnt matter if there spinning jerky or anything?
[08:21] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: is there a wayto list pcmcia hardware even if the card has nokernel module support?
[08:21] <jenda> How many Ubunuteros are there?
[08:21] <trappist> fabiob: yeah, I've yet to get compiz working though
[08:21] <K-Mandla> Two different laptops, both pre-Pentium III. A CTX Ezbook 700e and a Compaq Presario 1020. No signs from a Belkin F5d7010, a Linksys WPC54 or a Microsoft MN-520 or SanDisk CF adapter.
[08:21] <no0tic> fabiob, #ubuntu-it
[08:21] <veriz> Seveas: Could you tell me why the the command in /etc/network/interfaces iface eth0 inet dhcp iface eth0 inet dhcp isn't asking for ip from DHCP server?
[08:22] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: won't work on either?
[08:22] <kp_> trappist, Oh so it doesnt matter if there spinning jerky or anything?
[08:22] <setuid> whoa
[08:22] <setuid> this is whacked
[08:22] <Rahzel> aaah, vcdgrab works ;) so, another question. Now I got that "vcdgrab" for terminal use only. Can I make an shortcut on the KDE Desktop for that application??
[08:22] <Wibble-> Can anyone explain why my dialup internet account is activated when I boot up the machine? I would prefer to just activate it from the panel app...
[08:22] <trappist> kp_: nope
[08:22] <Seveas> veriz, could you put the complete file on the pastebin
[08:23] <Seveas> setuid, mc again?
[08:23] <ufo> got only mesa loaded with ati drivers? anyone got an solution?
[08:23] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: Nope. None of those combinations work. Nothing from cardctl, lspci -vvv or lshw. All I get is confirmation from the cardbus hardware. (TI1131 on the EZbook)
[08:23] <Psi-Jack> What groups are used by Ubuntu administration, for allowing particular users access to different things? Such groups like, admin, adm, lpadmin, plugdev, floppy, etc.. Is there a list anywhere documented?
[08:23] <kp_> trappist, Oh, i was under the impression that it did lol. Well im installing Ut2004 at the minute so ill see then.
[08:23] <setuid> Seveas: I have sawfish keyed to open a black-backgrounded xterm with ctrl-alt-b. That sequence runs: 'xterm -name terminal +sb -ls -tn linux -sl 32768 -fn lime -bg black -fg white -geometry 80x20'
[08:23] <setuid> When I run that manually, and launch mc inside the xterm that opens, it works.
[08:23] <snoozix> Wibble-: i think i remember a file /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot or /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot.dsl responsible for it
[08:23] <kp_> ufo,  i have just installed ATI drivers using the guide from ubuntu community and they are working fine
[08:23] <snoozix> Wibble-: have a look what's there.
[08:23] <setuid> When I use ctrl-alt-b, and launch mc in THAT xterm, it fails
[08:23] <trappist> kp_: if glxinfo | grep rendering says Yes I expect it'll run just fine
[08:24] <setuid> weird
[08:24] <xvium> how come it says Make clen is an invalid command?
[08:24] <ufo> kp_, do you have an mobile radeon?
[08:24] <Seveas> setuid, the solar flares are acting up again I guess 
[08:24] <xvium> ahem "clean"
[08:24] <setuid> xvium: Because its 'make clean'
[08:24] <xvium> :P
[08:24] <kp_> ufo, No a Radeon 9600
[08:24] <xvium> thats what i meant hahah
[08:24] <setuid> Seveas: I wonder if its processing something from %ENV differently
[08:24] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: odd.... exact same issue I am having..... except that mine is a fairly recent compaq
[08:25] <ufo> kp_, and you got the fgl_glxgears working
[08:25] <kp_> ufo, but i did have the problem your having in SUSE last night. all i did was installed it all in run level 3 and it worked perfect. But it maybe differant in Ubuntu.
[08:25] <xvium> its says command not found ...
[08:25] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[08:25] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone here know which groups Ubuntu uses for user control?
[08:26] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: I've tried adding "pci=assign-busses" to the kernel boot line. No luck. I've done the whole ndiswrapper thing, and the same.
[08:26] <setuid> weeeeeeirfd
[08:26] <glughf> Good Evening,sven fm Germany, here. Need Help with DWL-650+ Wlan-PCMCIA-Card
[08:26] <xvium> am i missing development  libraries or somthing
[08:27] <kp_> ufo, and fgl_glxgears is working perfectly yes :)
[08:27] <glughf> Dont know where to get a driver ....
[08:27] <Rahzel> anyone knows, how to "join" mpg-videofiles? on windows there are so many tools for something like that, but I didn't found something for kubuntu till now.
[08:27] <pol_> ola ola
[08:27] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125334 ...
[08:27] <varsendagger> hey where can i apt-get the most bleeding edge kdelibs4 and libqt3c102-mt ?
[08:28] <setuid> Seveas: fixed...
[08:28] <setuid> flares must have passed over
[08:28] <SeyToN> ubuntu freeze with mplayer!
[08:28] <beerockxs> Rahzel, can't MPG2 files just be copied into one file?
[08:28] <setuid> varsendagger: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 dapper main
[08:28] <Rahzel> beerockxs maybe, but how?
[08:28] <Rahzel> is there any merge command for the console?
[08:29] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, dangit. Most questions I have, ubuntu-related, I never get answered, even some of the simpler ones. Or so I *thought* they were simple. :p
[08:29] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Ask them differently
[08:29] <ufo> !ati
[08:29] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:29] <varsendagger> setuid, can i do that one with breezy?
[08:29] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: are you using a custom kernel?
[08:29] <snoozix> !nvidia
[08:29] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:29] <mac19857> hi, is there any different between shell-comand "ifup eth0" and the "activation"-button of the "network-admin"
[08:29] <setuid> varsendagger: Sure, but you'll only get breezy libs
[08:29] <Psi-Jack> setuid: How can I reword my question about which Groups ubuntu makes use of for user allowance/restriction? It's very specific.
[08:30] <setuid> Psi-Jack: That's not specific. You mean Ubuntu the community? The forums? The wiki? The Foundation? The Distribution?
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> setuid: No, the distribution!
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> lol
[08:30] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: Nope. This is a straight Ubuntu server install. No updates or modifications.
[08:30] <damian_> lk
[08:30] <xvium> ../src/projectM# make clean
[08:30] <xvium> -bash: make: command not found
[08:30] <xvium> root@Xvium:/home/xvium/Desktop/projectM-0.97.5/projectM-0.97/src/projectM#
[08:30] <setuid> Psi-Jack: You mean /etc/group kind of quotas?
[08:30] <setuid> xvium: apt-get install make
[08:31] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[08:31] <janno> Why other comps cant connect with my comp
[08:31] <xvium> thx
[08:31] <trappist> xvium: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:31] <Psi-Jack> setuid: /etc/group, yes, but those aren't related anything to quotas. ;)
[08:31] <setuid> Psi-Jack: You asked about group allowance/restrictions, THAT means quota
[08:31] <setuid> quota resources, quota disk, quota permissions, etc.
[08:31] <olicat> does anyone have an idea how i can map Alt + 3 to produce a certain character? i can get the button to print the char on its own, but not Alt + button
[08:32] <varsendagger> hey i have these errors:
[08:32] <varsendagger> varicad2005-en depends on kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.4); however:
[08:32] <varsendagger>   Package kdelibs4 is not installed.
[08:32] <varsendagger>  varicad2005-en depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:
[08:32] <varsendagger>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> setuid: Hmm. In a matter of speaking, it's more of an ACL, than a quota. Using the system groups as the ACL list.
[08:32] <varsendagger> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:32] <varsendagger> anyway
[08:32] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Check out the SELinux policies
[08:32] <varsendagger> would i need to upgrade to dapper?
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> Anyway. What does Ubuntu Linux use for /etc/groups for users to allow access to various things? I've noticed a couple. but am unsure what others may be used.
[08:33] <Profichilla> hi ... when starting wine (on ubuntu dapper, that is, I actually have 0.97-winehq-1 installed, though the original verson does the same) ... it justs returns "Gettet"(=killed) whatever I do. What's the reason for this?
[08:34] <Psi-Jack> And, quite possibly, is that list of groups documented anywhere?
[08:34] <veriz> Seveas: now getting this error :( mount hdb2 - failed
[08:34] <veriz> Seveas: the hard disk might be dead?
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> setuid: Purhaps do you know?
[08:35] <w3svc> is there any webbrowser in terminal mode that can show images?
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> w3svc: links2
[08:35] <w3svc> Psi-Jack: thnx
[08:35] <olicat> or even, how can I say Shift + 2 = Euro ?
[08:35] <martin__> Holaaaaaa
[08:36] <martin__> ZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZz
[08:36] <ufo> !ati
[08:36] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:36] <janno> !networking
[08:36] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, janno
[08:36] <janno> !network
[08:36] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[08:36] <olicat> i cant work out how to tell xmodmap that i want Euro to be produced when i press 2, but only if shift is pressed too
[08:36] <janno> lol
[08:37] <olicat> does anyone have an idea on the xmodmap syntax?
[08:37] <martin__> alguien habla espaol?????????
[08:37] <mfuentes> martin__, #ubuntu-es para espaol
[08:37] <cs02rm0> anyone know where my wireless device might have gone to under dapper?
[08:37] <setuid> cs02rm0: iwconfig
[08:37] <martin__> que???
[08:37] <darren_> I was jusy going to ask that.
[08:38] <martin__> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[08:38] <darren_> I was using ndiswrapper
[08:38] <cs02rm0> i can't believe i forgot that. i was using ifconfig :s
[08:38] <cs02rm0> thanks
[08:38] <cs02rm0> darren_: so am i
[08:38] <setuid> # iptables-save | grep "dport 25" | wc -l
[08:38] <setuid> 1125
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> setuid: What does SElinux Policies have to do with Ubuntu's use of /etc/groups?
[08:38] <setuid> I love spammers
[08:39] <Psi-Jack> Err /etc/group
[08:39] <setuid> Psi-Jack: You're asking about ACLs
[08:39] <naetrick> Ok, apt-get is acting really weird
[08:39] <setuid> Psi-Jack: http://acl.bestbits.at/
[08:39] <TiFtOuF> bonjour all
[08:39] <setuid> Psi-Jack: http://www.suse.de/~agruen/acl/linux-acls/online/
[08:39] <naetrick> I installed MythTV... then I updated something, and now mythtv is gone, and when I try to install it again, I get dependency problems that shouldn't be occurring
[08:39] <janno> When the next ubuntu will released?
[08:39] <janno> :P
[08:40] <TiFtOuF> hi
[08:40] <TiFtOuF> is there french ?
[08:40] <Xappe> janno: April 20th iirc
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> setuid: For one, ACL's don't relate JUST to filesystem ACLs. *sighhs*
[08:40] <w3svc> is there any release candidate for links2 to ubuntu?
[08:40] <setuid> Psi-Jack: keep reading
[08:40] <janno> oo and when it happens then i must download it again and format my hdd?
[08:40] <Xappe> w3svc: links2 is in the repos
[08:41] <w3svc> Xappe: hmmmm tried and it says that the package cold not be found
[08:41] <Protocol1> linksys2?
[08:41] <damnhi1> do any of  you have the ubuntu 6.04 development kernel config file?
[08:41] <ufo> !ati
[08:41] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:41] <instant> Is there any way to make my mp3-player which now shows up as a removable volume, to show up as a mp3-player?
[08:41] <jetscreamer> !info links2
[08:41] <Psi-Jack> setuid: I know ACL's. I use them extensively in filesystem use, cyrus-imapd mailboxes, etc. That still does NOT tell me what specific groups Ubuntu uses to allow specific things.
[08:41] <Xappe> w3svc: enable universe and multiverse repos would do the trick I guess
[08:41] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[08:41] <TiFtOuF> bonjour tout le monde
[08:42] <jetscreamer> !fr
[08:42] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:42] <darren_> It seems that Dapper changed wlan0 to eth1 for wireless.  Any ideas
[08:42] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Ignore the 'ubuntu' part of your question. You're asking what, specifically? How to restrict what? Access to what?
[08:42] <SeyToN> Linux x86_64<--- its that for 64 bits distros?
[08:42] <setuid> SeyToN: yes
[08:42] <SeyToN> thanks
[08:42] <xvium> Hello again, ok for some reason now after running "apt-get -f install" it cant download needed packages from ca.archive.ubuntu.com it just sits there at 0% ?
[08:43] <setuid> xvium: ping www.google.com
[08:43] <setuid> xvium: dns broken?
[08:43] <jetscreamer> SeyToN: i think it's for intel itanium
[08:43] <xvium> no i have net
[08:43] <jetscreamer> there is/should be a different version for regular 64bit
[08:43] <jetscreamer> SeyToN: i could be wurng
[08:43] <Psi-Jack> setuid: What groups does Ubuntu use for various restrictions?  I notice the use of "adm" and "lpadmin", which I normally do *not* see used in any other distributions, and I want to know what others are used to allow/deny specifics, and which ones should remain system-only.
[08:43] <setuid> You would be ;)
[08:44] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Why? Are you trying to remove them?
[08:44] <setuid> You're not being specific enough
[08:44] <codo> someone please tell me how to get the source in ubuntu
[08:44] <codo> whats package name ?
[08:44] <jetscreamer> lpadmin is a cups thing
[08:44] <setuid> codo: apt-get source package-name
[08:44] <Mabus06> is there a command to view all wireless networks available?
[08:44] <instant> Is there any way to make my mp3-player show up as a mp3-player instead of a removable volume???
[08:44] <Bean> how do i set ctrl-alt-del to open the Gnome Status Monitor?
[08:44] <Psi-Jack> setuid: I'm trying to make use of the set guidelines Ubuntu provides, mainly. Is that so much? LOL
[08:45] <Mabus06> And their essid, mac address, internal IP, etc
[08:45] <codo> setuid i want kernel src
[08:45] <Bean> or system monitor
[08:45] <setuid> codo: apt-cache search kernel-source
[08:45] <codo> okay
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> setuid: I mean, things like, is the games group used to allow people to play games, or is it even used at all?
[08:45] <jetscreamer> then it would/might be in gconf
[08:46] <Mabus06> is there a command to view all wireless networks available, like in Windows XP? I'd like to be able to view the channel it's on, the mac addresses, etc.
[08:46] <setuid> MacSlow: iwconfig
[08:46] <Spastjeh> anyone got xgl running on an ati (7500 mobile thing) ?
[08:46] <jetscreamer> hah
[08:46] <MacSlow> setuid, ?
[08:47] <MacSlow> setuid, some nick-completion went "wild"?! ;-)
[08:47] <jetscreamer> MacSlow: him mean Mabus06
[08:47] <setuid> MacSlow: it did?
[08:47] <bimberi> Mabus06: iwlist <interface> scanning
[08:47] <foopub> I just intalled Ubuntu again, disabled all display resolutions except 1024x768, and the screen is still 640x480 and that is the only opintion in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[08:47] <setuid> oh, whoops
[08:48] <Mabus06> jetscreamer: iwconfig only shows the one I'm connected to, not the others.. and it doesn't show a lot of info
[08:48] <jetscreamer> Mabus06: /me know nothing (about wireless no gottee)
[08:48] <jetscreamer> Mabus06: try what bimberi said
[08:48] <foopub> Anyone know what might be wrong? It has worked on prior installations.
[08:48] <bluefoxicy> Why can programs not map more than a gig of memory in ubuntu?
[08:49] <Mabus06> okay
[08:49] <trappist> bluefoxicy: you need a kernel that supports more than a gig
[08:49] <Nogimics> How can I find out how much diskspace is left via SSH into ubuntu pls?
[08:49] <jetscreamer> foopub: you sure you're using the correct xorg driver?
[08:49] <Mabus06> bimberi: I'm still having troubles, can I /query you?
[08:49] <jetscreamer> df -h maybe Nogimics
[08:49] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  and the stock vanilla kernel from kernel.org should be doing 3G user and 1G kernel
[08:49] <Psi-Jack> setuid: So, by chance, do you know, or know where it might be documented by some Ubuntu Administration Guide or something?
[08:49] <foopub> jetscreamer: How would I find out? I just installed Ubuntu.
[08:49] <Nogimics> Thank you jetscreamer
[08:49] <Nogimics> that worked
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  so what did ubuntu do to the kernel
[08:50] <trappist> bluefoxicy: it's a compile time option - you can build the kernel with support for < 1gig, 4gig or 16 gig iirc
[08:50] <jetscreamer> you need to enable high/largemem in the kernel iirc
[08:50] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Nope, groups are groups, its not really related to granular ACLs
[08:50] <cs02rm0> iwconfig complains that device wlan0 does not exist and i need to check the system messages... in /var/log/messages it complains that there might be a driver mismatch.
[08:50] <jetscreamer> what trappist said
[08:50] <xvium> xvium no i don't know whats wrong  the net works fine , they should have made the program so it selects a different mirror at timeout or something but ca.archive.ubuntu.com seems unreachable
[08:50] <xvium> xvium apt-get -f install
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Reading package lists... Done
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Building dependency tree... Done
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Correcting dependencies... Done
[08:50] <TiFtOuF> bonjour
[08:50] <xvium> xvium The following extra packages will be installed:
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  there is NO WAY to compile time build for more than 4 gig.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   gcc-3.3-base jackd libjack0.80.0-0 libstdc++5
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Suggested packages:
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   qjackctl jack-tools meterbridge libjackasyn0
[08:50] <trappist> bluefoxicy: and support for lots of ram is costly, so you don't want it if you don't have the ram
[08:50] <xvium> xvium The following packages will be REMOVED:
[08:50] <Rahzel> is there any merge command ?
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   libvisual-plugins
[08:50] <xvium> xvium The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   gcc-3.3-base jackd libjack0.80.0-0 libstdc++5
[08:50] <Nogimics> Dont paste in here
[08:50] <xvium> xvium 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium 1 not fully installed or removed.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Need to get 151kB/597kB of archives.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium After unpacking 1606kB disk space will be freed.
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  32 bit systems only allow the applications to address up to 4 gig, and the top 1 gig is usually kernel mapped.
[08:50] <jetscreamer> bluefoxicy: you sure?
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[08:50] <jetscreamer> xvium: shaddup
[08:50] <xvium> xvium 0% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (206.75.218.52)] 
[08:51] <xvium> then it just sits there .. opps sorry
[08:51] <bluefoxicy> jetscreamer:  you need a 64 bit system, and then it's 256 TiB of VM.
[08:51] <jetscreamer> :)
[08:51] <Nogimics> xvium use: http://pastebin.com/
[08:51] <oklinux> is ubuntu base on debian ?
[08:51] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  so what did they break?
[08:51] <Rahzel> i think so oklinux
[08:51] <w3svc> howto give example_user root priviliges?
[08:51] <jetscreamer> oklinux: don't use the d word
[08:51] <Seveas> !tell oklinux about debian
[08:51] <Seveas> jetscreamer, ?
[08:51] <jetscreamer> sudo
[08:51] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  there's supposed to be a 3G/1G split User/kernel last I looked.
[08:51] <Psi-Jack> setuid: STOP changing my words. :p
[08:51] <trappist> bluefoxicy: they didn't break anything.  they didn't compile the i386 kernel with support for > 1 gig of ram.  you can get the i686 or k7 kernel for that.
[08:51] !lilo:*! Hi all....if you've seen spam recently from someone with the nick SolarMRqI, please paste it to me and let me know what channel it was on....thanks!
[08:51] <bimberi> Mabus06: sorry, i was away, ok to /query but that's really the extent of my knowledge :|
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  no, wrong.
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  I said 3G/1G split, not ram
[08:52] <thegladiator> any good ftp programs ?  thanks
[08:52] <jetscreamer> gftp
[08:52] <Psi-Jack> setuid: It's the most annoying thing in the world, to have someone, not only change someone's words around, but use that to completely run someone around in useless loops, for absolutely no reason.
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  Let me try to explain this to you.
[08:52] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Where did I change your words?
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  when you have a program, it wants ram, right?
[08:52] <oklinux> so what are you saying jetscreamer
[08:52] <trappist> bluefoxicy: the kernel doesn't reserve a gig of memory for itself.  it consumes what it consumes, which generally isn't much and frees the rest.
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  so it gets the kernel to map it some ram.  The kernel goes, "oh, there's physical memory here not in use.  You can access it at 0xdeadbabe"
[08:52] <Psi-Jack> setuid: For one, I said that /etc/groups was MORE ACL-like, than quotas. Not that it was.
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  now the program goes there and there's the memory.
[08:53] <jetscreamer> oklinux: just that #ubuntu doesn't like the d word, and #debian doesn't like the u word
[08:53] <gyuszk> cscs
[08:53] <oklinux> hello trappist how are you doing ?
[08:53] <thegladiator> !ftp
[08:53] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  now, if you have 600000 gigs of memory, there are only 32 bits of addressing in 32 bit code, so a program can at most address 4 gigs of memory
[08:53] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[08:53] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  but the kernel maps ITSELF in the top 1 gig of program application space, so each program can only address at most 3 gigs of virtual memory.
[08:53] <Psi-Jack> Is there an Ubuntu Linux Administration Guide anywhere?
[08:53] <squid0> !dvd rip
[08:53] <ubotu> squid0: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <olicat> is it possible to map a key to produce a certain string?
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  now apparently on ubuntu, this is not happening.  I t appears programs are restricted to 1 gig
[08:54] <jetscreamer> !find dvdrip
[08:54] <w3svc> howto give example_user root priviliges?
[08:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'dvdrip' (3 shown): dvdrip ;; dvdrip-doc ;; video-dvdrip-doc.
[08:54] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search something
[08:54] <Snak1> I need help with the Synaptic Package Manager
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> trappist: do you understand the question now?
[08:54] <oklinux> ok its cool then but I like ubuntu better my hard drive crashed and it had d in it I did not want to spend the whole day putting it back in so ubuntu to the rescue
[08:54] <trappist> bluefoxicy: does 'free' or a similar app show that you even *have* more than a gig?
[08:54] <foopub> jetscreamer: How do I know if the correct xorg drivers are being used?
[08:54] <jetscreamer> apt-get remove --purge synaptic
[08:54] <psusi> bluefoxicy: what makes you say that?
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  *facedesk*
[08:54] <squid0> jetscreamer: thanks
[08:54] <jetscreamer> NOOOO
[08:54] <jetscreamer> i was kidding
[08:54] <pld_> i am looking for help setting up samba to allow a windows machine to print to my cups printer... anyone help?
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  well, I mmap()ed continuously until mmap() failed, and when my VM space grew to 1023.9 megs, it failed.
[08:54] <jetscreamer> oh worng person
[08:55] <jetscreamer> foopub: grep the xorg.conf
[08:55] <psusi> bluefoxicy: how much ram and swap do you have?
[08:55] <hype1> hi
[08:55] <foopub> jetscreamer: For what?
[08:55] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  irrelavent.
[08:55] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  I PROT_NONE protected the pages and didn't touch them.  The zero page was mapped over and over and over again, so no physical ram or swap is used.
[08:55] <psusi> bluefoxicy: no, it is very much relavent... you can't map more memory than is availible
[08:55] <jetscreamer> foopub: or less it... nano... check the .conf and look for the right line.
[08:55] <jetscreamer> lemme see...
[08:56] <bluefoxicy> psusi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8BojsK41.html
[08:56] <psusi> bluefoxicy: ahhh
[08:56] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  my test program.
[08:56] <jetscreamer> in one of the device sections foopub
[08:56] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  something is horribly horribly broken.
[08:56] <jetscreamer> there are > 1 so you gotta look
[08:57] <jetscreamer> or if ytou know what you should be using, grep for that
[08:57] <jetscreamer> and make sure that that device section is the one being used
[08:57] <jetscreamer> (that's at the bottom)
[08:57] <jetscreamer> above dri 0666
[08:57] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  anyway it's irrelavent how much ram I have.
[08:57] <momo> not gottaa schugi3 - need help
[08:57] <bluefoxicy> trappist: i  should be able to map 3 gigs
[08:58] <Psi-Jack> I see the Ubuntu and Kubunti Quick Guide docs, but I don't see anything for actual Administration on either.
[08:58] <oklinux> trappist say something ?
[08:58] <jetscreamer> tldp.org is better
[08:58] <psusi> bluefoxicy: what is the returned error code?
[08:58] <jetscreamer> perhaps
[08:58] <jetscreamer> ciao
[08:58] <bluefoxicy> psusi: MAP_FAILED
[08:58] <trappist> bluefoxicy: since you're not exhausting actual ram, I see your point, and I'm running your test app to see if I get the same results.  but afaik the kernel won't even address more ram than it's compiled to support.
[08:58] <bluefoxicy> psusi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8BojsK41.html line 9
[08:58] <trappist> oklinux: hi
[08:58] <xvium> http://pastebin.com/556438
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  i'm on i686
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/data$ uname -a
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> Linux icebox 2.6.15-15-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 9 20:19:53 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:59] <zoinks> hy, when i run compiz (ubuntu packages from universe) in xgl I get the following error: "find_mesa_visual returned NULL for visualID = 0x002c"  do any of you know what that means?
[08:59] <trappist> bluefoxicy: I'm a little puzzled by "Did 32768 * 98257 = -1075281920"
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/data$ ./memmy
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> Did 32768 * 32716 = 1072037888
[09:00] <trappist> that looks a lot more reasonable
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  i'm a little puzzled, and I should have %u instead of %i
[09:00] <varsendagger> Seveas, are you around?
[09:00] <Gyuszk> re
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  what kernel version
[09:00] <psusi> bluefoxicy: try using larger mappings... you probbaly can't have so many seperate mappings is all
[09:00] <trappist> bluefoxicy: yeah %u works
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  my original mapping size was 4KiB
[09:00] <trappist> bluefoxicy: I'm on 386
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> same results
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> I upped it to 32KiB
[09:01] <nuxil> Hello People... can someone help me.. i made a initscript  ..now i dont quit understand how the init style works on ubuntu.. im used to slackware and archlinux.. can anyone help me out..
[09:01] <psusi> bluefoxicy: according to my /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count, you can only have 65536 mappings... maybe yours is lowered?
[09:01] <psusi> bluefoxicy: and got fewer mappings but same total size before fail?
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/data$ cat /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> 65536
[09:01] <foopub> jetscreamer: Identifier "Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  yes
[09:01] <Nogimics> hmmmm in nano im saving using Write Out is that correct?
[09:02] <Psi-Jack> Nogimics: Yes
[09:02] <psusi> strange....
[09:02] <oklinux> hey JoeBlow
[09:02] <xvium> May i have some help please http://pastebin.com/556438
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/data$ ./memmy
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> Did 32768 * 16356 = 535953408
[09:02] <Nogimics> I keep editing my x-org.conf file but the changes revert back to the original after saving them Pso_Jack
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  now it gave me fewer mappings and less size :)
[09:02] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Does Ubuntu follow the same /etc/groups guidelines as the Debian distribution itself?
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  for 64K mappings
[09:03] <Nogimics> Psi-Jack* Sorry
[09:03] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  are you using dapper?
[09:03] <varsendagger> hey all i need are two libs to make a program work,  kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.4) libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4)  what is the easiest way to get those to work
[09:03] <varsendagger> Seveas, please msg me
[09:03] <Mabus06> can anybody help me with a wireless networking with ubuntu question? It contains some personal info about my network so I don't want to ask it in #ubuntu, but please let me know if I can /query you.
[09:04] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  I think I know why g imp just crashed now when it reached 1 gig memory usage, heh.
[09:04] <oklinux> trappist are you using ubuntu ?
[09:04] <psusi> strange... I wonder why that is happening
[09:04] <trappist> bluefoxicy: not on the box I'm running it on
[09:04] <trappist> oklinux: yes
[09:04] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  can you test on a 2.6.15 dapper?
[09:04] <trappist> yeah
[09:05] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  if mainline dropped app vm to 1G I am going to slap the fuck out of them.
[09:05] <snoozix> oh
[09:05] <oklinux> cool trappist I just installed ubuntu last night I like it
[09:05] <snoozix> i want dapper install cd's :)
[09:05] <bluefoxicy> they kept coming back to me with excuses about lowered VM space when I said certain things about emulating an NX bit on ia-32 via some of PaX's methods
[09:05] <Nogimics> Can anyone tell me why in "nano" when I use WriteOut and Change the filename to another that exsist's and choose to overwite it, why when I re-open the file it has reverted back to what it was before I saved over it please
[09:05] <snoozix> are they already shipping them?
[09:06] <mythtv> Anyone know of a WinDVD-creator alternative for Linux? I was going to use MythTV, but that seems a bit overkill for what I want to do
[09:06] <mythtv> I just want to import videos, edit out commercials, and burn to disk
[09:06] <trappist> bluefoxicy: running on dapper... there's a #ubuntu-kernel channel where the kernel dudes hang out if you want to ask them about it
[09:06] <xvium> help please http://pastebin.com/556458
[09:07] <Mirith> Hey, i have a question... how do I install an obsolete package with apt-get?  or is there a new java sdk out there past 1.5?
[09:07] <momo> I'm working with mepis linux. Possible install dualboot with ubuntu?
[09:07] <Snak1> i need help witht that 2
[09:07] <Guard] [an> hi ppl
[09:07] <snoozix> so where can i download "dapper"?
[09:07] <varsendagger> mythtv, you may try mencoder, on GUI though
[09:08] <Guard] [an> anyone having an inspiron 8600 here ? does wifi and suspend work out of the box ??? I installed ubuntu in server mode then emerged xubuntu-desktop and i miss laptop stuff :(
[09:08] <w3svc> need help changing screen resolution to ubuntu server with out gui
[09:08] <Mirith> wifi generally works out of the box
[09:08] <Mirith> at least it has for me
[09:08] <Mirith> depends
[09:09] <Guard] [an> well for wifi i need ndiswrapper
[09:09] <Guard] [an> because of a sucking broadcom chip
[09:09] <trappist> w3svc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <Mirith> there is a laptop channel is #ubuntu-laptop
[09:09] <Guard] [an> but i'm fed up tweaking script so that suspend works
[09:09] <Mirith> oh suspend never has worked for me
[09:09] <JoeBlow> anyone here know how to use madoka or plum, i need an irc proxy for xchat
[09:09] <Guard] [an> oh right
[09:09] <w3svc> trappist: i'm running in just terminal and dont have that installed
[09:10] <trappist> w3svc: oh I see what you mean.  you'll need something in your grub.conf like vga=<something>
[09:10] <w3svc> Guard] [an: do you have a button to activate your WiFi?
[09:10] <w3svc> trappist: lol ;) hehe np, thnx
[09:10] <Nogimics> Can anyone tell me why in "nano" when I use WriteOut and Change the filename to another that exsist's and choose to overwite it, why when I re-open the file it has reverted back to what it was before I saved over it please
[09:10] <Guard] [an> w3svc: it's enabled, not detected, because of the broadcom chip i guess
[09:11] <ubuntu> server 2peu.ro
[09:11] <JoeBlow> i need an irc proxy, can anyone help me out?
[09:11] <Mirith> Guard] [an: I just switch my laptop to the console mode using ctrl-alt-f1 whenever i close the screen,its the easiest way for it to not screw up... dunno if that helps or is even your problem
[09:11] <rehpotsirhc> JoeBlow: sudo apt-get install tor
[09:11] <w3svc> Guard] [an: cause on my other laptop i have a button to enable the wifi, that was my problem. hmmm i didnt hav any problems installing the broadcom. is it a ia86_64 ????
[09:12] <JoeBlow> rehpotsirhc, so how do i use it?
[09:12] <Guard] [an> don't remember the exact reference chip
[09:12] <Guard] [an> but under gentoo i had no choice but to use ndiswrapper
[09:13] <MisterN> hi
[09:13] <w3svc> Guard] [an: give me your model and laptop name
[09:13] <Guard] [an> dell inspiron 8600, geforce fx5200, dell wireless card
[09:13] <Mirith> you know anything more about the wireless card?
[09:14] <trappist> bluefoxicy: how long you expect this to take on a semimodern box?
[09:14] <Mirith> Guard] [an: if you have an acount you can look up on their website what you have in your system
[09:14] <Guard] [an> actually no, i don't have the laptop at home :/
[09:14] <Guard] [an> anyway i'm was curious about the suspend stuff
[09:14] <Guard] [an> not the wifi
[09:14] <Mirith> Guard] [an: What exactly is the problem?
[09:15] <Guard] [an> well it's just don't suspend when battery has no more power
[09:15] <JoeBlow> rehpotsirhc, how do i activate a proxy with this?
[09:15] <Guard] [an> when i close the lid, it just crashes at reboot
[09:15] <chimera321> trappist: how long do we exoect WHAT to take?
[09:15] <Guard] [an> well not reboot, but powerup
[09:15] <Guard] [an> and well, quite funny, i can't use the keyboard while being in the grub menu :)
[09:15] <Guard] [an> inactive
[09:15] <ufo> how do i use sources from CVS, make is not working in directory?
[09:15] <Mirith> Guard] [an: Try hitting ctrl-alt-f1,  ctrl-alt-f7 when you open up the lid
[09:16] <Gyuszk> cs
[09:16] <Mirith> Guard] [an: I have a similar problem on my latitude, whenever i close the lid
[09:16] <Mirith> Guard] [an: Oh! and hit fn+f8 (crt/lcd) once before hand
[09:17] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  should be instant
[09:17] <w3svc> Guard] [an: wich dist u use?
[09:17] <bluefoxicy> trappist: it's set to hang at the end though, needs a ctrl+c kill
[09:17] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  I wanted a chance to look at it in top.
[09:17] <Nogimics> How can I overwwrite the xorg.conf file please? it say's its write-protected
[09:17] <Guard] [an> xubuntu
[09:17] <trappist> bluefoxicy: Did 32768 * 98259 = 3219750912 if that's what you're looking for
[09:18] <w3svc> Guard] [an: http://koeniglich.de/dell_8600.html
[09:18] <Guard] [an> +nvidia drivers (in case it involves something)
[09:18] <chimera321> Nogimic: cd /etc/X11
[09:18] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  that looks good.  They said it's known in #-kernel
[09:18] <chimera321> Nogimic: sudo gedit xorg.conf
[09:18] <trappist> bluefoxicy: sounds like good news
[09:19] <Guard] [an> w3svc: not the same video adapter nor wlan adapter, intel wifi works out of the box, not broadcom wifi
[09:19] <Nogimics> chimera321 I get: (gedit:6515): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:19] <pld_> can anyone help explain how to setup a printer share for a windows box?
[09:20] <w3svc> Guard] [an: are you shure. do they have different hardware to same model?
[09:20] <pld_> i have followed the tldp.org debian and windows share how-to, but to no avail
[09:20] <Mirith> pld_: all i can say is samba, i dunno more than that
[09:20] <ufo> !cvs
[09:20] <ubotu> [cvs]  the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[09:20] <c0ntrol> !svn
[09:20] <pld_> mirith: thanks, i have followed the how-to's and guides, but still no luck :(
[09:20] <ubotu> it has been said that svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[09:20] <Nogimics> I just wanna overwrite a backup xorg.conf file over the current one
[09:20] <Guard] [an> w3svc: perfectly
[09:20] <Mirith> pld_: yah, i understand
[09:20] <c0ntrol> !ubuntu
[09:20] <ubotu> [ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[09:20] <w3svc> Guard] [an: schise... that are the thinking??
[09:21] <c0ntrol> !cinelerra
[09:21] <ubotu> cinelerra is, like, totally, http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html
[09:21] <Guard] [an> w3svc ?
[09:21] <JoeBlow> wich port is irc run on?
[09:21] <c0ntrol> !cairo
[09:21] <ubotu> c0ntrol: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:21] <w3svc> Guard] [an: dell cant be thinking if they are using diffrent hardware to same model
[09:21] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone know what groups in /etc/group are used for access allowance/restrictions to various things in Ubuntu? I'm trying to migrate most non-system-related gid's to LDAP, and would like to know which can be safely moved over. So far, by default install, the first user it added to these groups: adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, and admin. Are there any others that toggle wether to allow 
[09:22] <Guard] [an> w3svc: model is inspiron 8600, then you can customize
[09:22] <jetscreamer> ubotu: cinelerra is also http://heroinewarrior.com/
[09:22] <ubotu> okay, jetscreamer
[09:22] <c0ntrol> ubotu: cairo -> www.cairographics.org
[09:22] <ubotu> c0ntrol: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:22] <w3svc> Guard] [an: have u been to broadcom's homepage and read there
[09:22] <c0ntrol> huh
[09:23] <Guard] [an> w3svc: well read the forums, solution = ndiswrapper + windows driver
[09:23] <Guard] [an> w3svc: i made it work while being under gentoo
[09:23] <luisito> hello!!
[09:23] <Psi-Jack> Gyuszk: Any point to that?
[09:23] <jos> hi
[09:23] <w3svc> Guard] [an: but it should be no diffrent in ubuntu
[09:23] <jetscreamer> ubotu: cairo is www.cairographics.org
[09:23] <ubotu> okay, jetscreamer
[09:24] <Guard] [an> w3svc: indeed, but i repeat i tried ubuntu to have suspend to disk working out of the box, which is not the case :)
[09:24] <snoozix> i personally more and more think gnome developers are cocaine addicted interface nazis.
[09:24] <w3svc> okey
[09:24] <luisito> anyone have kooldock installed?
[09:24] <w3svc> brb
[09:25] <Nogimics> Can someone pls tell me how I can overwrite the xorg.conf file? I get permission denied each time
[09:25] <c0ntrol> !kooldock
[09:25] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, c0ntrol
[09:25] <c0ntrol> what is kooldock ?
[09:25] <stjepan> is ubuntu daily updated, like gentoo?
[09:25] <jetscreamer> no
[09:25] <snoozix> c0ntrol: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/12097-1.jpg
[09:25] <snoozix> c0ntrol: sort of mac os start bar thingy
[09:25] <jetscreamer> well the stable isn't cept probably security patches
[09:26] <rodell> howdy all
[09:26] <luisito> c0ntrol: is an animated bar like the macintosh one.
[09:27] <c0ntrol> snoozix: got it, looks very sweet
[09:27] <c0ntrol> luisito: thanks
[09:27] <snoozix> c0ntrol: in fact it does, but it would not fit into my oldskool desktops :)
[09:27] <snoozix> c0ntrol: i do make my own fluxbox/wmaker styles and currently i'm just using KDE and am proud to say that i like KDE.
[09:28] <VR_> snoozix :(
[09:28] <c0ntrol> snoozix: i prefer wmaker :=)
[09:28] <luisito> c0ntrol: no, I want to have it but it isn't in the repositories and I don't like to compile things, I always have a lot of errors in that way
[09:28] <stjepan> what to do if I want to install an app, but there are no official ubuntu packages for it?
[09:28] <stjepan> :(
[09:28] <snoozix> wmaker is a superb absolutely great wm!!!
[09:28] <VR_> stjepan you could compile from source i imagine
[09:28] <luisito> snoozix: I'm using KDE too
[09:29] <stjepan> VR_: right, but then dpkg will not recognize that app compiled from source
[09:29] <feza>  irc.cl
[09:29] <snoozix> c0ntrol: i like wmaker, fluxbox and KDE. those three are my absolutely favourite desktops.
[09:29] <snoozix> c0ntrol: i couldn't think of anything else that i would use an a daily basis.
[09:29] <c0ntrol> snoozix: well, there is always the console
[09:29] <meepy> Hello. When I start up my desktop the splash screen loads, and when its done loading it keep staying so i have to manually click it away, how can this be? hehe.. Thanks..
[09:30] <c0ntrol> snoozix: this animated mac os x like bar , did you test it with wmaker ?
[09:30] <snoozix> c0ntrol: well, there is always a terminal shortcut on my desktop or in my wm's menu :)
[09:30] <jodanlime> _jason, man, your always on arent you?
[09:30] <stjepan> is ubuntu for h4(k3r5?
[09:30] <snoozix> c0ntrol: i didn't even test it at all, i just googled for it and what i found was a page containing that screenshot i url'ed you.
[09:30] <snoozix> stjepan: yes.
[09:31] <c0ntrol> snoozix: okidoki
[09:31] <luisito> ksmoothdock seems to be better http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6585
[09:31] <jodanlime> luisito, I tried ksmoothdock and it was kinda buggy
[09:32] <c0ntrol> snoozix: did you check what novell did for the X desktop ?
[09:32] <ufo> can i update the breezy to dapper or do i need an fresh install
[09:32] <snoozix> c0ntrol: no, URL?
[09:32] <neosc> Lo guys... just installed ububtu 5.04
[09:33] <jodanlime> neosc, wow, you should upgrade
[09:33] <neosc> which is th latest?
[09:33] <luisito> jodanlime: are you using kooldock or something like it?
[09:33] <stjepan> snoozix: isnt ubuntu for n00bs which just want polished graphical interface and apps?
[09:33] <stjepan> neosc:get breezy
[09:33] <jodanlime> luisito, no, I'm on gnome right now because I have dialup and it takes 8 years for me to download kde
[09:34] <jodanlime> but I have tried it
[09:34] <Nogimics> Can someone pls tell me how I can overwrite the xorg.conf file? I get permission denied each time
[09:34] <snoozix> stjepan: i don't see a reason why a hacker wouldn't love nice interfaces.
[09:34] <neosc> hmm.. well i cant seem to find any network setings option.. i wnat manually set the ip,sub mask,gateway.. where do i do that??
[09:34] <jodanlime> stjepan, no, its also for people who dont enjoy a stuffed distro or too many default packages
[09:34] <snoozix> Nogimics: try "sudo"
[09:34] <c0ntrol> snoozix: try google again for novell linux desktop, they got inspired by mac os x too (3d accelerated x (org))
[09:35] <snoozix> i personally use a root account on all my ubuntu boxes.
[09:35] <garage> My cdrom doesn't work
[09:35] <stjepan> snoozix: I like to make my system work as I want
[09:35] <Nogimics> snoozix thanks
[09:35] <jodanlime> snoozix, how do I get a root acount on my ubuntu box?
[09:35] <garage> when I try to insert a CD (via gnome
[09:35] <garage> it doesn't mount
[09:35] <garage> it says /dev/hdc doesn't exist
[09:35] <snoozix> jodanlime: "sudo passwd"
[09:35] <garage> but I don't know what other device it would be
[09:36] <neosc>  i want manually set the ip,sub mask,gateway.. where do i do that??
[09:36] <luisito> I personally think Linux should look the best it can be because it is the best OS.
[09:36] <jodanlime> snoozix, thanks
[09:36] <snoozix> jodanlime: just enter your user password and it will ask you for the new root password.
[09:36] <luisito> and it deserves it.!
[09:36] <snoozix> jodanlime: after this you can always just use "su" and work as root.
[09:37] <ufo> does the dapper work well? or has it major issues
[09:37] <snoozix> jodanlime: i like that way because it's more unix'ish
[09:37] <neosc> is there anyway to manually set the iP, sub mask and gateway??
[09:37] <snoozix> ufo: tell me where to grab it and i'll test it :)
[09:37] <jodanlime> snoozix, yeah, me too thats how it is with suse
[09:38] <c0ntrol> snoozix: nope, my bookmarks are 400 km away from me now (and pc is off)
[09:38] <snoozix> jodanlime: uhm, i encourage people to not start with suse when checking out linux.
[09:38] <garage> is there a command that will tell me what device my cdrom REALLY is?
[09:38] <neosc> hello guys..is there anyway to manually set the iP, sub mask and gateway????
[09:38] <snoozix> neosc: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:39] <jodanlime> jodanlime, yeah, but i been using it for about 6 months now, started with hoary
[09:39] <ufo> snoozix, grab what?
[09:39] <trappist> neosc: or use ifconfig and route
[09:39] <neosc> no GUI??there was 'system settings' in kubuntu
[09:39] <snoozix> http://www.hup.hu/old/images/hup/SuSE/NLD9/33.png
[09:39] <neosc> 'network settings rather
[09:39] <snoozix> looks to me like normal gnome
[09:39] <trappist> neosc: you said manually :)
[09:40] <neosc> ah well.. i menat typing the numbers.. GUI would b nice
[09:40] <snoozix> neosc: i'm used to my editor and i love it :)
[09:40] <neosc> I'm new to linux..a nd dont wanna screw up :p
[09:40] <snoozix> :)
[09:41] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: I found the problem
[09:41] <SconsolatoPT> ciao
[09:41] <SconsolatoPT> helllo
[09:41] <stjepan> wtf why are packages splitted into pkg and pkg-devel?? :-o
[09:41] <luisito> neosc: are u using ubuntu?
[09:41] <ufo> Seveas, are you owner of seveas repository?
[09:42] <neosc> yes!
[09:42] <neosc> any GUI!
[09:42] <neosc> ?
[09:42] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: or more accurately... found the solution
[09:42] <psusi> stjepan: because most people don't need the devel parts
[09:42] <ufo> Does someone know howto compile programs?
[09:43] <AnsiC> how can i configure the printer ???
[09:43] <luisito> then go to System Cofiguration > Network
[09:43] <AnsiC> i have a Epson Stylus DX4200
[09:43] <ufo> Can someone help me compile the xgl sources from cvs
[09:44] <luisito> neosc: then go to System Cofiguration > Network and choose ethernet
[09:44] <frectie> Hello anyone ..Does someone why every time when i restart mi comp i have to run alsaconf coz i have just nulloutput ?? pls
[09:45] <cafuego> ufo: Why not wait until it's in dapper and thus not wreck your installation?
[09:45] <llODxCOll> frectie: why not type so we can understand you
[09:45] <ufo> cafuego, because i want it now :)
[09:45] <jodanlime> AnsiC, go into system>adnministration>printing>new printer
[09:46] <neosc> luisito, there was no system configuration in the main menu(or any sub menu)
[09:47] <rod> hi
[09:47] <llODxCOll> hi
[09:47] <AnsiC> ufff there is not my printer in the list
[09:47] <rod> how to check which version my rhythmbox is using of gstreamer?
[09:47] <oklinux> i got real player install but it not shown in the plugin how do I configure real player ?
[09:47] <garage> I dont think ubuntu created a device for my cdrom drive
[09:47] <cafuego> ufo: #gentoo is there -->   ;-P
[09:47] <garage> how can I gix that?
[09:48] <garage> hehe.. fix
[09:48] <blasph> where do I set something to run every so long?
[09:48] <cafuego> blasph: 'crontab -e'
[09:49] <garage> blasph in crontab
[09:49] <neosc> luisito, there was no system configuration in the main menu(or any sub menu)...
[09:49] <wewrrss> how can i chnge default window manager under ubuntu ????
[09:49] <blasph> erm, crontab doesn't have a gui, does it. =\
[09:50] <wewrrss> is there any config file i have to edit ?
[09:50] <jodanlime> wewrrss, when you go to the login page login to the one you want and it will ask you if you want to do this everytime or just this time
[09:50] <cafuego> blasph: No, but it has a very handy manpage.
[09:50] <luisito> neosc: then go to System>Administration>Network and choose ethernet (sorry, I'm using KDE)
[09:50] <wewrrss> im connecting through vnc - i only get default wm, do not have gdm screen
[09:51] <johnpt> !ati
[09:51] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:51] <woodwizzle> I dont think ubuntu created a device for my cdrom drive
[09:51] <wewrrss> is there any console tool i can use for it ??
[09:51] <instant> Is there some easy way to move files to a removable volume? Like right-cklicking and chosing copy to or something?
[09:51] <woodwizzle> gnome tries to mount /dev/hdc but that device doesn't exist
[09:52] <xcap> hae you checked you fstab?
[09:52] <xcap> have, I wrote wrong
[09:52] <llODxCOll> hdc would be a thrid hard drive
[09:52] <KoruptidPryde> what was the file that maps network interfaces based on their MAC address?
[09:52] <woodwizzle> xcap, yeah, in fstab the cdrom is set to /dev/hdc
[09:52] <woodwizzle> xcap, but there is no hdc in my /dev/ directory
[09:53] <xcap> have you checked your hardware, like pluging everything again?
[09:53] <blasph> so how do I use crontab to run a line on the first of every month?
[09:53] <woodwizzle> xcap, yeah just did that. This is the same CDrom I installed ubuntu from as well
[09:54] <xcap> when does the gnome trie to mount it?
[09:54] <xcap> try
[09:54] <xcap> sorry again
[09:54] <vlauzums> greetings, does anyone know how i would install plugins into rhythmbox? i don't know which files to drop this plugin folder into
[09:54] <woodwizzle> xcap, when I right clcik on cdrom from the computer menu and hit mount
[09:54] <woodwizzle> same as mount /dev/hdc I suppose
[09:55] <woodwizzle> I figure my fstab is wrong, but I don't have any other possible devices that could be my cdrom
[09:55] <xcap> could you send to me your fstab?
[09:56] <blasph> so how do I use crontab to run a line on the first of every month?
[09:56] <woodwizzle> /dev/hdc  /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto  0 0
[09:56] <WiFiTux> Hi, I want xscreensaver to run a video while it locks the PC. Is this posible? I can run xine -R and that will use the root Window, but I want it to also block the PC
[09:56] <xcap> udf, has your kernel this support?
[09:57] <xcap> which gnome are you using?
[09:57] <WiFiTux> xcap: ?
[09:57] <woodwizzle> 2.12.1
[09:58] <xcap> your kernel has the support for udf filesystem
[09:59] <woodwizzle> i dunno. I suppose so I have the standard ubuntu kernel
[09:59] <batman> hey has anyone here installed quake 3 team arena from the windows cd on ubuntu?
[10:00] <AnsiC> uff someone know how can i configure my EPSON Stylus DX4200
[10:00] <xcap> is your user the same created during the instalation?
[10:00] <woodwizzle> yup
[10:00] <AnsiC> ther is not that printer in  the list
[10:00] <PoLLiToMX> how can i use a proxy?
[10:01] <xcap> I had some problems with the floppy drive
[10:01] <mindamp> im having problems compiling the new cups-pdf.c ...
[10:01] <neosc> Lo again.. i'm talking from linux!
[10:01] <xcap> then I get the system up to date then the problem ended
[10:01] <mindamp> how do i find out what version of gcc i am running?
[10:01] <fredy> any video joiner with a gui for ubuntu linux?
[10:01] <mindamp> ...
[10:03] <rod> I dont understand... Rhythmbox wont play mp3, although gstreamer0.10-plugins-base is installed? Cant find any bug reports
[10:03] <woodwizzle> I am up to date
[10:03] <rod> running dapp
[10:03] <xcap> would you agree to let me enter in your computer and only watch what are you doing?
[10:03] <xcap> through vino?
[10:03] <woodwizzle> xcap, sure
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> xcap: Can you specify watch-only access?
[10:04] <xcap> yes from the gnome menu you specify it!
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> xcap: Ah, cool.
[10:05] <xcap> do you know how to enable it?
[10:05] <woodwizzle> xcap, nope =)
[10:05] <woodwizzle> actually I think I just did
[10:05] <woodwizzle> you need my IP?
[10:05] <alphy> anyone know how to unlock a cellphone?  I know this isn't a linux question but, you never know...
[10:06] <Gyuszk> re
[10:06] <xcap> System->Preferences->Remote Access
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> alphy: Sure, you enter the code.  Hopefully you know it.
[10:06] <vlauzums> greetings, does anyone know how i would install plugins into rhythmbox? i don't know which files to drop this plugin folder into
[10:06] <xcap> set the first option to true, but not the second which would let me control your desktop!
[10:07] <woodwizzle> done
[10:07] <xcap> yes I need it
[10:07] <cablop> hello
[10:07] <alphy> tonyyarusso, I don't know the code, I'm trying to get it but, all the programs are for windows.  know of any that run on linux?
[10:07] <woodwizzle> xcap, I'm on a lan
[10:07] <cablop> could you help me?
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> alphy: What do programs on your computer have to do with a cell phone, may I ask?
[10:07] <xcap> oh my, though I do not think that it is possible, where are you from?
[10:08] <cablop> i damaged my ubuntu x server, i think
[10:08] <bsr> I've got a problem with installing mysql, well to be more precise..it's postfix that fails..with the following message: postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/postfix-script: No such file or directory
[10:08] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!!
[10:08] <bsr> can anyone help with this ?
[10:08] <bsr> and hi everyone btw
[10:08] <cablop> it do not allow me to switch between users or start another user application
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> cablop: I did that yesterday.  It was a whopping good time, let me tell you.
[10:08] <alphy> tonyyarusso, the only free way to do this (since it's a really old phone I'm trying unlock) is to download a program, put in the model #, etc.... and it'll give you the code.
[10:08] <xcap> it was not possible to conect
[10:09] <jodanlime> has anybody ever compiled matchbox on ubuntu?
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> alphy: Only if it's still at the default code from the factory.
[10:09] <oklinux> how do I set up root password for ubuntu ?
[10:09] <alphy> tonyyarusso, the phone is
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> !tell oklinux about root
[10:09] <jodanlime> oklinux, sudo passwd
[10:09] <jos> #0000
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> alphy: Ah.  Sometimes they're the last four digits of the number, but beyond that I don't know what to tell you.
[10:10] <alphy> tonyyarusso, thanks anyway
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> jodanlime: For future reference, it seems to be the consensus that it's better to refer users asking about root to the full documentation rather than just telling them how, since we doin't know their level of knowledge and experience and don't want people accidently breaking things.  Not a huge worry, but someone's bound to tell you eventually.
[10:12] <jodanlime> tonyyarusso, ok, no problem, thanks for the info
[10:12] <jodanlime> has anybody used matchbox on ubuntu?
[10:13] <cablop> hello people
[10:13] <bsr> can anyone help me with my postfix problem ?
[10:13] <cablop> help me please, i'll explain my problem
[10:13] <cablop> i cant start sudo gedit, i don't know why
[10:14] <brad> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0)
[10:14] <cablop> and i can't start a new logon screen from a running session, ubuntu says "X Server error"
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> cablop: a) Any errors output in the terminal you try to start it from?  b) Try gksudo gedit instead
[10:14] <brad> what is the repo file for that?
[10:14] <Determinist> i have /dev/hdb , it's a 40 GB drive that's seperated into swap and root for ubuntu. i need to resize the root partition and make it 10 gigs smaller so i could install dapper flight and play with it a bit. I cant use gparted because i'm trying to resize the root partition. is there any other way to resize this partition?
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> cablop: That second one starts getting into my errors from yesterday, so I don't think you want me going there.
[10:15] <cablop> talking about "sudo gedit", it occurs to any any graphical application i try to star, sudo nautilus, sudo gedit, sudo gdmsetup...
[10:15] <brad> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0)
[10:15] <Half-Left> oh yes, I got Xgl working :-)
[10:15] <brad> can someone tell me the repo file for that?
[10:16] <jodanlime> lol, nevermind about matchbox, there is a package for it! I didnt think that there would be
[10:16] <cablop> repo file? i don't know where to it
[10:16] <cablop> where to find it
[10:16] <brad> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0)
[10:16] <Mabus06> I have read up on WEP and it's insecurities... if the attacker does not have my WEP yet is there no way for him to stimulate more traffic on my AP?
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> brad: Looking into it.
[10:16] <nickrud> brad, try apt-cache search libgnomeui, and install the right dev package
[10:16] <ploom> Determinist, I think you better resize the partition without booting from it
[10:16] <alphy> is there a way to run windows programs in linux?
[10:16] <ploom> Determinist, I mean using ubuntu live cd for ex
[10:17] <Determinist> ploom, ohh, that could happen.
[10:17] <Half-Left> alphy: wine does
[10:17] <alphy> half-left, how do I get that?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> brad: You'll probably want universe it seems.
[10:17] <brad> ok how do i get that?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> alphy: Depends on the program.
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> !tell alphy about windows
[10:17] <Half-Left> alphy: the same way you get all software in ubuntu
[10:18] <brad> tonyyarusso how do i get that?
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> brad: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:18] <brad> what is the command?
[10:18] <brad> wine?
[10:18] <brad> isnt that for windows?
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> brad: For future reference sudo apt-get install everything-under-the-sun-you-could-possibly-want
[10:19] <brad> ok
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> brad: Sorry, that was supposed to be for alphy.
[10:19] <brad> shit
[10:19] <brad> ok
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> !tell brad about universe
[10:19] <nickrud> brad, sorry I got distracted
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> brad: That one's yours.
[10:19] <brad> no  prob
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> alphy: See above for getting wine.
[10:19] <MrRio-> cool, got those dapper xgl/compiz packages running on my laptop
[10:20] <cablop> some body is helping me?
[10:20] <brad> i have that enabled
[10:20] <Half-Left> alphy: sudo apt-get wine
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> brad: Then just do the search and see what looks likely.
[10:20] <brad> theres like a huge list
[10:20] <Half-Left> MrRio-: great hey!
[10:21] <ploom> anyone knows what to do with tuxpaint crashing right after being loaded itself (the startup sound plays)??
[10:21] <MrRio-> Half-Left, its good stuff, havnt got the cube zoom effects yet tho, but everything else seems alright
[10:21] <nickrud> brad, it's the libgnomeui-dev package: generally, when you compile you want the base name without the version, and followed -dev.
[10:21] <brad> ok
[10:22] <brad> so -dev?
[10:22] <Half-Left> MrRio-: you notice apps launch faster?
[10:22] <nickrud> brad, yes
[10:22] <MrRio-> Half-Left: yeah, i love that progs like vncviewer doesnt have to redraw itself when it gets covered up
[10:22] <MrRio-> Half-Left, that used to be painful
[10:23] <brad> ok thankyou
[10:23] <Half-Left> MrRio-: yer, most launch instantly
[10:23] <echylo> hello, can someone tell me why my internet keeps disconnecting? I use pon dsl-provider to connect, but after a while it just seems to disconnect
[10:23] <nickrud> brad, it's only a rule of thumb, sometimes you need to extrapolate a bit. Practice will make it easier
[10:23] <MrRio-> Half-Left, im pretty impressed, this is a laptop that can barely run quake 2!
[10:24] <echylo> + the weirdest thing is I can still use irc, but firefox can't browse
[10:24] <Half-Left> MrRio-: runs smooth for you?
[10:24] <MrRio-> Half-Left, yeah, its not too bad atall
[10:24] <cafuego> echylo: Is 'persist' missing from the pppd options?
[10:25] <Half-Left> MrRio-: thats the great thing about Xgl, the hardware requirements are low
[10:25] <echylo> cafuego, where do I check that? reconfig?
[10:25] <alphy> half-left, is wine pretty self explainitory?
[10:25] <cafuego> echylo: rgrep persist /etc/ppp
[10:25] <xvium> i cant get synaptic or apt-get to connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com for pacage downloads is there any way i can change it to the us mirrior?
[10:25] <Cass> hi all anyone know how to stop boot from trying to aquire a dhcp address if there is no link on the interface ?
[10:25] <echylo> thanks, will modify it
[10:26] <Half-Left> alphy: yer just open the .exe file with wine
[10:26] <echylo> ah
[10:26] <echylo> it says /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider:persist
[10:26] <alphy> half-left, can't be easier than that
[10:26] <Half-Left> alphy: wine dont run all apps and it's not perfect
[10:26] <Half-Left> alphy: what do you need to run?
[10:26] <cafuego> echylo: Ok. ANy chance you just have a shit quality phone line? (like mine)
[10:26] <jpfarias> hi!
[10:27] <alphy> half-left, well, it's just a little simple program I need to run
[10:27] <jpfarias> how can I change the args passed to X when it starts?
[10:27] <echylo> cafuego, ah but in the option file it was commented
[10:27] <cafuego> ahaaa
[10:27] <echylo> cafuego, normally not, my connection always been stable
[10:27] <cafuego> then it might disconnect when idle, yeh
[10:27] <echylo> do I need to restart a service?
[10:27] <Half-Left> alphy: install wine and use "Open With" on the .exe file
[10:28] <echylo> or just the connection?
[10:28] <cafuego> echylo: poff; pon
[10:28] <echylo> aha ok
[10:28] <echylo> thanks
[10:28] <echylo> goodbye
[10:28] <topyli> alphy: wine can run "simple little programs", or office2000, but it depends on what libraries the programs use, and also on some luck. and don't forget the phase of the moon!
[10:28] <topyli> alphy: for windows programs, i recommend windows
[10:28] <Half-Left> alphy: latest wine is best though
[10:29] <alphy> half-left, if I have any problems I will be back
[10:29] <MrRio-> Half-Left: any clues to getting the cube effect going?
[10:29] <alphy> topyli, that would be great, if I had windows
[10:30] <cafuego> it's cheaper then most windows programs, why not buy it? ;-)
[10:30] <Half-Left> MrRio-: did you add it when you ran Xgl?
[10:30] <[D-Tail] > here's [D-Tail]  again ;-)
[10:30] <[D-Tail] > can someone help me with adding an option to the gnome context menu?
[10:30] <topyli> alphy: sorry i haven't been following the discussion for very long. are you sure there is no equivalent linux native app?
[10:30] <[D-Tail] > that is, when right clicking on a file, I'd like an option like 'send via bluetooth' ;-)
[10:30] <MrRio-> Half-Left, gconf decoration minimize move place resize rotate scale switcher wobbly zoom cube
[10:31] <MrRio-> Half-Left, the first time i ran it, it said something about the order of these
[10:31] <Half-Left> MrRio-: The keys are Ctrl, Alt, left and right arrow keys
[10:31] <MrRio-> Half-Left: its only giving me one workspace, whenever i change it it goes back to one
[10:31] <MrRio-> Half-Left, i dont think the effect loaded properly
[10:31] <xvium> im having problems getting synaptic or apt-get to download from ca.archive.ubuntu.com is there any way i can make it download from  the us mirror?
[10:31] <alphy> topyli, well, here the deal, I am trying to unlock a cellphone (to use it on another carrier) and I found a free program that will give me the code to do that, it's a windows program, as far as I know there is no native linux program for that
[10:31] <mark_> hey, is there any command from shell that tells you the clients IP
[10:32] <mark_> like ipconfig in windows
[10:32] <shrike_00> mark_: ifconfig
[10:32] <Half-Left> MrRio-: add more work spaces
[10:32] <AntMaz> cause AntMaz=n0013
[10:32] <MrRio-> Half-Left: yeah, as i say it wont let me add any
[10:32] <mark_> thanks shrike_00
[10:32] <bintut> hello all.. i just installed the breezy on my HP Compaq nx6125 laptop. but it seems that everytime it boots, it hangs on X. i just get a blank screen.  any idea?
[10:33] <[D-Tail] > can anyone help me with adding an option to the gnome context menu?
[10:33] <topyli> alphy: most likely. well, try your luck with wine. anyway, this is a program that interacts with hardware directly, i wouldn't put much faith in running it with wine. just try it!
[10:33] <jpfarias> how can I change the args passed to X when it starts?
[10:33] <AntMaz> i diable my account to use admin options so is there a way to enable it through shell because you cant log in as root with ubuntu
[10:33] <AntMaz> why i did it cause im a retard
[10:33] <Half-Left> MrRio-:  the switch dont work for me when I try to add it
[10:33] <alphy> topli, it doesn't react with the phone, it just generates a code that I put into the phone
[10:34] <AntMaz> anyone have any ideas
[10:34] <AntMaz> i diable my account to use admin options so is there a way to enable it through shell because you cant log in as root with ubuntu
[10:34] <josef_> hello Ubus
[10:34] <josef_> anyone understanding vlan here ?
[10:34] <shrike_00> bintut: I know when i installed breezy i couldnt get x running until chown'd iceauthority and xauthority in home directory
[10:34] <xvium> please can i have some help on this ..
[10:34] <Half-Left> MrRio-:  you want the starter script?
[10:35] <geneo93> AntMaz:  did you create a root passwd
[10:35] <MrRio-> Half-Left: yeah please
[10:35] <AntMaz> roger
[10:35] <bintut> shrike_00: that's it?
[10:35] <bintut> i'll check..
[10:35] <shrike_00> bintut: for me at least
[10:35] <bintut> shrike_00: ok..
[10:36] <b1ind> I'm having a really tough time getting dri up and running with my radeon 9200
[10:36] <shrike_00> xvium: did you put the mirror you want in sources.list?
[10:36] <adub> b1ind i will help you
[10:36] <bluefoxicy> Hi
[10:36] <bluefoxicy> I just tried to grow an xfs from gparted.
[10:36] <bluefoxicy> it grew the partition but not the FS
[10:36] <b1ind> adub, thanks.. my situation is that if i try w/ fglrx the screen gets corrupted
[10:36] <bluefoxicy> how do I correct this?
[10:37] <b1ind> if i use radeon, direct rendering isn't enabled
[10:37] <adub> did you download the latest drivers from ati's website
[10:37] <AntMaz> geneo93 were did you go
[10:37] <geneo93> right here
[10:37] <bintut> how can i configure X except by manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:37] <b1ind> nope :o
[10:37] <bintut> is there an xorgcfg or something in ubuntu?
[10:38] <b1ind> adub, will they work w/ xorg 7?
[10:38] <adub> yes
[10:38] <AntMaz> so you have any idea how to correct this through shell sense (i have no sense) i cant access anything admin wise
[10:38] <shrike_00> bintut: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:38] <b1ind> oh
[10:38] <adub> thats what you need to get
[10:38] <b1ind> :p
[10:38] <adub> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[10:38] <K-Mandla> bintut ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... ?
[10:38] <adub> go there and download the ati for  your bit processor
[10:38] <adub> i mean follow that site download your drivers from ati
[10:38] <bintut> K-Mandla: thanks..
[10:39] <K-Mandla> bintut ... cheers
[10:39] <geneo93> AntMaz:  try telinit 1 see if you can adduser
[10:39] <adub> also one more thing is check to see if you have dri in /etc/modules     cat /etc/modules
[10:39] <b1ind> the download is intimidating :p
[10:39] <fangorious> anyone using xchat-gnome thru a SOCKs proxy?
[10:39] <judgen> how to mount a ntfs
[10:39] <egkamp> i can't seem to access my floppy since i've installed ubuntu...shouldn't "sudo mount /media/floppy0" work?  /media/floppy0 is in /etc/fstab
[10:39] <AntMaz> try that in shell
[10:39] <geneo93> yes
[10:40] <fangorious> judgen: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hXX /mnt/windows -o iocharset=utf8
[10:40] <Exussum> Hey all - how do i access Cron in ubuntu ?
[10:40] <egkamp> when i try to right click on the floppy icon using nautilus it errors out on me...
[10:40] <adub> b1ind one you can just do the apt-get
[10:40] <fangorious> judgen: substitute your actual drive and partition for hXX,
[10:40] <Seveas> crontab -e
[10:40] <adub> according to that site that is what they do
[10:40] <xvium> its ok shrike i fixed it now
[10:40] <xvium> found out how to change to us mirror
[10:41] <b1ind> adub, ?
[10:41] <b1ind> i have the one currently in dapper universe
[10:41] <AntMaz> ok now what
[10:41] <geneo93> xvium:  uk mirrors are lots better
[10:41] <adub> just when you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org   make sure you select fglrx and also cat /etc/modules to make sure dri is there
[10:41] <geneo93> AntMaz:  now adduser
[10:41] <xvium> but still makes me wonder why ca.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[10:41] <adub> b1ind you still there
[10:41] <b1ind> ahh, strangely enough dri is not in /etc/modules
[10:41] <AntMaz> telinit sounds like telet
[10:41] <AntMaz> telnet
[10:42] <adub> add it and see if it works from there man
[10:42] <zoinks> xgl
[10:42] <adub> ctrl alt backspace to restart X btw
[10:42] <b1ind> don't think i even have a dri module
[10:42] <geneo93> AntMaz:  telinit will take you to level one
[10:42] <adub> should if your using fglrx
[10:43] <fangorious> adub, are you talking about the fglrx drivers packaged in ubuntu? because I installed the binary drivers, and I don't have a dri module
[10:43] <b1ind> I have a feeling that I've missed something obvious somewhere along the way
[10:43] <AntMaz> anthony@ubuntu:~$ sudo adduser
[10:43] <AntMaz> anthony is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[10:43] <xvium> peace all
[10:43] <fangorious> adub: and 3d accel works pretty well for me
[10:43] <adub> fangorious oh  = )   g00d
[10:43] <egkamp> how do i mount a floppy drive under ubuntu?  (and why/what was changed to make it like this?)
[10:43] <b1ind> fangorious, which version of x do you have?
[10:43] <adub> i did not knwo i used ati's website good 3d acceleration works it works for me as well
[10:43] <fangorious> b1ind: i'm using the xorg packages in the breezy/main repo
[10:44] <geneo93> AntMaz:  then you'll have to add it to sudoers list
[10:44] <b1ind> i think i was fine w/ that version.. for some reason 7.0 fubars on me
[10:44] <K-Mandla> egkamp ... did you try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/floppy0 /media/floppy" ?
[10:44] <evan_> hey does anyone have time to help me get ubuntu working on my laptop?
[10:44] <b1ind> my screen goes crazy
[10:44] <Exussum> sevaes - How do i save it :P
[10:44] <fangorious> b1ind: well, i haven't tried that so I can't comment on it
[10:45] <AntMaz> dont mean to pain how do i do that
[10:45] <adub> b1ind here i got something better for you
[10:45] <fangorious> evan_: any particular problem you want to deal with?
[10:45] <b1ind> adub, i'm listening!
[10:45] <AntMaz> im in the 5th day of my windows- linux transformation
[10:45] <Exussum> * 7 * * * sudo shutdown >/dev/null 2>&1
[10:45] <Exussum>   - How do i enter that ?
[10:45] <egkamp> K_Mandla: since it is listed in /etc/fstab, i tried it with just the device, and tried it with just the mount point
[10:45] <MrRio-> hey, sorry, i forgot who just sent me thast great script a moment ago
[10:45] <fangorious> AntMaz: all users in the adm group have sudo privilege
[10:45] <evan_> after installing, it stalls at "Starting hotplug subsystem..." but its not the same as everyone describes it in the message boards like ive seen
[10:46] <fangorious> AntMaz: but the user you created during installation should already have that
[10:46] <fangorious> Exussum: how do you enter that where?
[10:46] <geneo93> AntMaz:  try passwd root
[10:47] <geneo93> if your in telinit 1
[10:47] <Exussum> Fang - in the Crontab ?
[10:47] <AntMaz> it did but im atard and disabled it in the system-> admin-.users and groups
[10:47] <b1ind> adub, still there?
[10:47] <aganda> hello
[10:47] <christopher_> whats up channel
[10:47] <aganda> any budy knows about this
[10:47] <fangorious> AntMaz: boot into single user mode, and run 'gpasswd -a anthony adm' as root
[10:47] <aganda> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[10:48] <egkamp> K-Mandala: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 gives me mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[10:48] <fangorious> Exussum: run 'crontab -e', copy/paste, save and exit
[10:48] <aganda> how to insert plugins and where are they
[10:48] <fangorious> Exussum: 'crontab -l' lists the contents of your crontab
[10:48] <K-Mandla> egkamp: sorry. that's what i usually use. i forget what that error means
[10:48] <fangorious> AntMaz do you know how to boot in single user mode?
[10:48] <AntMaz> no
[10:49] <b1ind> brb
[10:49] <christopher_> Anyone famiiar with this thread on installing a driver to install wireless net
[10:49] <christopher_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846
[10:50] <Exussum> How do you save :P
[10:50] <fangorious> AntzMan: when the boot menu comes up, hit 'e' to go into edit mode. use the up/down arrows to select the kernel line, hit 'e', put an 's' at the end of the line, hit either enter or escape, then hit 'b' to boot
[10:50] <adub> b1ind yes semi here
[10:50] <aganda> i'm using "totem", pls anything
[10:50] <evan_> anyone know about the "Starting hotplug subsystem.." problem I am having?
[10:50] <poingpoing> Good evening
[10:51] <AntMaz> is there a way to login a root when i boot up, i tried root and that didnt work
[10:51] <evan_> or at least willing to spend some time helping me trouble shoot? :-) i'd love to get my laptop working tonight
[10:51] <fangorious> AntMaz: booting in single user mode will give you a root shell
[10:51] <poingpoing> What is a smart shell command if I want to delete all files in the current folder expect the ones which have a certain ending?
[10:51] <Exussum> fangorious - how do i save ?
[10:51] <slam> hi
[10:52] <AntMaz> ok then type run 'gpasswrd -a anthony adm' as root
[10:52] <christopher_> AntMaz, do you need to get into root
[10:52] <fangorious> AntMaz: yep
[10:52] <fangorious> Exussum: depends on the editor, do you know which one you're in?
[10:52] <Exussum> Its still in the Terminal
[10:53] <fangorious> Exussum: for VI hit escape to enter command mode, then hit ":wq" to Write and Quit
[10:53] <AntMaz> got a few more questions before i do this , just a few shell commands , i know instead of dir its ls  but how would you do dir *.exe/s example
[10:53] <slam> why is the kernel parameter "splash" in dapper not creating a framebuffer device file?
[10:53] <xvium> i get this error when running ./configure configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:53] <xvium> , what package do i install to fix this ?
[10:53] <fangorious> Exussum: you can also edit a text file, and then run 'crontab <file>' to set your crontab to the contents of <file>
[10:53] <amphi> AntMaz: man ls, man find
[10:54] <AntMaz> ok
[10:54] <AntMaz> manual , i forgot about that dee dee dee
[10:54] <fangorious> AntMaz: is that to find all .exe files recursively? find . -name "*.exe"
[10:54] <amphi> AntMaz: you might also find the 'intro ti linux' book at tldp.org useful
[10:54] <christopher_> is this a real command?  the "ifcofig" and the "up" "sudo ifconfig rausb0 up"
[10:54] <fangorious> xvium: build-essential
[10:54] <Exussum> Fang - shoud it save the Cron to /tmp - Wont it delete ?
[10:55] <christopher_> should it be "sudo iwconfig rausb0" ?
[10:55] <xvium> thanks
[10:55] <b1ind> btw, is there any ubuntu-specific way of going about compiling new kernels?
[10:55] <amphi> christopher_: yes - that would bring up the interface rausb0
[10:55] <AntMaz> i know that linux doesnt use exe files they are bins right 01010101
[10:55] <christopher_> amphi, hello again
[10:55] <amphi> christopher_: ifconfig to bring the iface up, iwconfig to configure wifi-specific aspects of the iface
[10:55] <fangorious> Exussum: When you make a crontab using the 'crontab' app, it writes the file to /var/spool/cron/crontabs/<username>
[10:56] <amphi> 'nabend, christopher_ ;)
[10:56] <christopher_> "sudo ifconfig rausb0 up" so that is correct then?
[10:56] <jan> hi, how can i make firestarter start at startup? or does it run in the background without being started?
[10:56] <fangorious> Exussum: if you use the 'crontab <file>' method, you are safe to delete <file> and it won't affect your installed crontab
[10:56] <evan_> does someone have a minute to help me
[10:56] <amphi> christopher_: yeah; that only bring it up, not configure it in any way
[10:56] <christopher_> amphi, this is from a thread.  its supposed to be for a wireless setup
[10:56] <sexcopter8000m> i've noticed there are some files left around with ~ on the end, what does the ~ signify and why does it not show up in nautlius?
[10:56] <K-Mandla> egkamp: does this help? ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106544
[10:57] <evan_> im starting to sound like a spammer, sorry
[10:57] <amphi> christopher_: that part is the same for wireless or wirelessless
[10:57] <fangorious> evan_: I'm not familiar enough with the hotplug subsystem, sorry
[10:57] <amphi> sexcopter8000m: temporary files probably
[10:57] <AntMaz> hey fang what do i hit when booting cause if i dont hit anything it just boots up normally (link in horible crashing windows its F8
[10:57] <amphi> christopher_: WAYTTD?
[10:57] <AntMaz> like"
[10:57] <christopher_> amphi, WAYTTD?
[10:57] <snoozix> ah
[10:58] <evan_> oh, ok. is anyone else familiar with the hotplug subsystem or what would cause ubuntu to stall?
[10:58] <snoozix> it hangs when it tries to start gnome-settings-daemon :)
[10:58] <amphi> christopher_: 'what are you trying to do?'
[10:58] <geneo93> AntMaz:  e
[10:58] <snoozix> but WHY? screensaver?
[10:58] <snoozix> .oOo0(*shrug*)
[10:58] <snoozix> interesting...
[10:58] <fangorious> AntMaz: when grub loads, it should give you a menu, and a 10 second countdown (I think 10 seconds is the default), just use the up/down arrow keys to select your ubuntu install and hit 'e'
[10:58] <christopher_> amphi, i think it was you or someone else in here but they gave me this link
[10:58] <christopher_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846
[10:58] <amphi> christopher_: WAYTTD?
[10:58] <christopher_> to set up my wireless internet card
[10:58] <fangorious> evan_: can you boot in single user mode?
[10:58] <amphi> christopher_: connect to a wireless router?
[10:59] <AntMaz> ok thanks now the fun begins
[10:59] <christopher_> i did the whole procedure listed there and then once i got to that command it didnt work
[10:59] <amphi> heh
[10:59] <saara> what .Xsession file should be edited for compiz goodness?
[10:59] <saara> i have two .Xsession files
[10:59] <evan_> it stalls right in the boot sequence when it's doing the "Step.... OK" thing
[11:00] <snoozix> so how can i set a gtk2 theme to be used when i don't use gnome-settings-manager?
[11:00] <snoozix> i use KDE
[11:00] <alphy> half-left, are you still here?
[11:00] <christopher_> amphi, "sudo ifconfig rausb0 up
[11:00] <christopher_> " returns "rausb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:00] <christopher_> "
[11:00] <amphi> ok
[11:00] <fangorious> evan_: right, see if you can boot in single user mode. when the boot menu comes up, hit 'e' to go into edit mode. use the up/down arrows to select the kernel line, hit 'e', put an 's' at the end of the line, hit either enter or escape, then hit 'b' to boot
[11:00] <christopher_> amphi,  yes connect to a wireless router on my laptop using wireless card
[11:00] <amphi> does sudo modprobe ra2570 work?
[11:01] <evan_> ok, one moment
[11:01] <snoozix> amphi: yes, at the end of the line you should try using "enter", in fact :-)
[11:01] <amphi> christopher_: er, sudo modprobe rt2570
[11:01] <christopher_> well i installed it
[11:01] <aganda> oki, i found sollution
[11:01] <aganda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75382
[11:01] <christopher_> so let me run that command
[11:01] <amphi> snoozix: ?
[11:01] <alphy> half-left I can't get it to work?  I don't know how.  wine is not showing up on open with list.
[11:01] <saara> what Xsession file should be edited for compiz goodness?
[11:01] <christopher_> yeah i gues
[11:02] <saara> /etc/X11/Xsession or /etc/gdm/Xsession
[11:02] <saara> ?
[11:02] <amphi> christopher_: lsmod | grep rt2570 gives you at least one line?
[11:02] <evan_> fangorious: pressing E didnt do anything. Am I trying to get into the GRUB menu?
[11:02] <amphi> christopher_: one line of output I mean
[11:02] <snoozix> amphi: just kidding, nevermind :)
[11:02] <christopher_> amphi, yes, two lines
[11:03] <fangorious> when you first power on the computer, and the grub menu displays, that's when you should hit 'e'
[11:03] <christopher_> one is rt2570, the other is usbcore
[11:03] <amphi> christopher_: so try sudo ifconfig rausb0 up again
[11:03] <alphy> anyone help with using Wine?
[11:04] <christopher_> amphi, "rausb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:04] <christopher_> "
[11:04] <snoozix> great, it WORKS! :)
[11:04] <snoozix> i love it when thinks just work! :)
[11:04] <evan_> fangorious: oh ok. im in edit menu. I have Root, Kernel, Initrd, Savedefault, Boot
[11:04] <christopher_> what is that rausb0 code stand for
[11:04] <amphi> christopher_: damn - try plugging the damn thing out and in again; before that, open another term and do tail -f /var/log/syslog
[11:04] <alphy> anyone help me with wine?
[11:04] <fangorious> evan_: select the kernel line, hit 'e', add 's' to the end
[11:04] <mindamp> how do i find out what version of gcc i have installed?
[11:05] <amphi> christopher_: when you plug the thing in, you should see some messages in the term window running that tail command
[11:05] <christopher_> so repeat the whole process on that thread ?
[11:05] <fangorious> mindamp: gcc -v
[11:05] <evan_> done
[11:05] <mindamp> whats the release previously to 4.0.2 for gcc?
[11:05] <amphi> christopher_: no, type tail -f /var/log/syslog in another term, and watch that term as you unplug and plug in again the horrid usb thing
[11:05] <alphy> tonyyarusso, can you help me with wine?
[11:05] <ewwwwww> anyone know if compileing e16 will make it less laggy than apt-geting the binary?
[11:05] <mindamp> whats thats preferrably still in the tree...
[11:06] <mindamp> er one thats...
[11:06] <amphi> ewwwwww: almost certainly not
[11:06] <fangorious> evan_: then hit either enter or escape (can't remember which) to get back to the edit menu, and hit 'b' to boot
[11:06] <christopher_> amphi,  or just  start here ?"sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/drivers/rt2570.ko"
[11:06] <amphi> christopher_: we did that - the module is loaded
[11:06] <snoozix> what is it when tinting in xchat doesn't work but transparency itself does?
[11:06] <amphi> christopher_: except that we did it with modprobe
[11:07] <ewwwwww> amphi: I dont recall it ever being this laggy when moveing windows around \ :
[11:07] <butterfly_> anyone know how I can run my ipod shuffle on ubuntu?
[11:07] <amphi> ewwwwww: I haven't used E for a very long time
[11:07] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get the suspend to ram option to show in the gnome log-off dialog?
[11:07] <evan_> fangorious: it stalled again. I think it has to do with the audio because my speakers click RIGHT when it stalls
[11:07] <fangorious> butterfly_: plug it in and open rhythmbox?
[11:07] <ewwwwww> thanks
[11:08] <luisito> hello
[11:08] <butterfly_> fangorious don't I have to run gnupod
[11:08] <luisito> why I get this error when compiling?: compiler cannot create executables
[11:08] <butterfly_> ?
[11:08] <xvium> Ok this is wierd , i run ./configure works good till the end with one error "checking for libvisual >= 0.2.0... configure: error: *** libvisual not found.
[11:08] <xvium>                         libvisual is needed to build this package.
[11:08] <xvium> " so the i check synaptic an look it up and it says libvisual 0.2 is installed ... wtf?
[11:08] <fangorious> evan_: do you know what module your sound card uses? you could try blacklisting it
[11:08] <christopher_> amphi,  no tail command is shown in the output
[11:08] <evan_> fangorious: and about 10 seconds after stalling, it goes out of framebuffer mode and into normal CLI
[11:08] <fangorious> butterfly_: maybe, i've never tried
[11:08] <christopher_> !paste
[11:08] <mark_> how do I get codecs for RhythmBox
[11:08] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:08] <mark_> with sudo apt-get install?
[11:08] <evan_> fangorious: no idea. is there a way i can just edit the kernel and disable all the audio stuff?
[11:08] <fangorious> mark_: look for the gstreamer plugins packages
[11:09] <butterfly_> hmm anyone know where I can get the latest build of gnupod for ubuntu from?
[11:09] <myk> i have an issue (too common eh?) I get the ubuntu splash screen upon booting up, but then i get slapped into "shell" with the errors "Alert! /dev/hdb1 does not exist" and then "/bin/sh cant access tty; job control turned off". i ~did~ put a jumper on the drive to set it as master, but other than that, no changes have been made... can anyone help?
[11:09] <beerockxs> anyone please?
[11:09] <fangorious> evan_: you'd have to recompile a new kernel, which I've never done successfully on ubuntu (so i won't be much help with that)
[11:09] <luisito> anyone help please...
[11:09] <gilles> How to make totem handle MPEG 1 Layer 3 VBR on Dapper ?
[11:09] <amphi> christopher_: you mean you ran tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugged the thing out and then in, and there were no messages?
[11:09] <christopher_> amphi, this is the response to that code http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8711
[11:10] <evan_> oh. (I only have expierience with Gentoo, by the way. This is my first time trying a new distro)
[11:10] <luisito> why I get this error when compiling?: compiler cannot create executables
[11:10] <fangorious> gilles: install libmad
[11:10] <christopher_> oh wait
[11:10] <enyc> myk: you need to update /etc/fstab to say 'hda' instead of 'hdb' then
[11:10] <myk> enyc: how? is there a command i can run from shell? (the # prompt)
[11:10] <enyc> myk: and change 'root=' entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst etc.
[11:10] <christopher_> i dont know how to plug it out and then in again "sudo lsmod -a"?
[11:10] <amphi> christopher_: here is a relveant line: Feb 15 16:50:36 localhost kernel: [4295078.141000]  usbcore: registered new drive r rtusb
[11:11] <ompaul> myk, >>sudo gedit /etc/fstab<<
 libmad0 is installed already
[11:11] <enyc> myk: see you hdd is now hda (pri master) which it wasnt ;-)
[11:11] <amphi> christopher_: I meant physically unplug it and plug it in
[11:11] <christopher_> yeah i noticed that.. i was just looking for the tail to be shown somewhere
[11:11] <enyc> myk: you booted in recovery mode thing?
[11:11] <fangorious> gilles: oh yeah, also gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:11] <amphi> christopher_: the tail?
[11:12] <christopher_> oh my bad i read it wrong
[11:12] <fangorious> gilles: mark_: I'd look at installing gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse to get the most out of gstreamer for A/V
[11:12] <beerockxs> anyone here familiar with acpi and suspend/hibernate?
[11:12] <fangorious> beerockxs: mostly works for me
[11:12] <myk> enyc: no, no recovery. and it was always the primary HD, im just trying to put a 2nd HD in so i put the jumper on the HDD specifying that it's master. so, at # i type " sudo gedit /etc/fstab " navigate the file to have the hdb say hda and then i should be okay?
[11:13] <beerockxs> fangorious, I just can't get the suspend option to show up in the shut down dialog, the manual command works
[11:13] <christopher_> so i run tail -f /var/log/syslog first and then remove and insert my adapter?
[11:13] <adub> does anyone in here use crossover office
[11:13] <fangorious> look in /etc/default/acpi-support
[11:13] <fangorious> beerockxs: there's a line in there to uncomment
[11:13] <instabin> how do i open a rar file
[11:13] <spuds> hello, how can I make a cronjob (in /etc/crontab) run as root ?
[11:14] <fangorious> beerockxs: you want to have ACPI_SLEEP=true
[11:14] <amphi> christopher_: that was my suggestion, yeah
[11:14] <beerockxs> fabbione, I have.
[11:14] <beerockxs> er, fangorious
[11:15] <christopher_> well i ran that command, unplugged and replugged it in again. went to system-network admin and still not shown
[11:15] <fangorious> beerockxs: hm, that's all I had to do.
[11:15] <beerockxs> fangorious, for me, just the hibernate option shows in the shutdown dialog.
[11:15] <Solo> hi, what kernel ver does Ubuntu have whit all the upgrades?
[11:15] <fangorious> instabin: filer-roller for gui maybe. unrar from the command line
[11:15] <myk> brb gonna try that gedit...
[11:15] <beerockxs> Solo, breezy has 2.6.12
[11:15] <Solo> tnx
[11:17] <Belgain> quick question... i'm trying to change the resync speed of a RAID array my changing the value in /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min
[11:17] <fangorious> anyone know of a gnome/cups pdf driver that creates searchable pdfs? (cups-pdf does not)
[11:17] <christopher_> if something worked for getting it seen in the default gnome desktop instead of flux would it work in flux too?
 it doesn't work, and I get an error message when installing gstreamer0.8-misc
[11:17] <Belgain> the problem is that something seems to be continually writing to that file and updating it, so I can't change the value (even as roo)
[11:18] <Belgain> any idea what might be doing this?
[11:18] <christopher_> its hard finding a thread about someone succesfully installing and setting a wireless network
 the error msg is: "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstgoom.so', which is also in package gstreamer0.8-visuals"
[11:18] <fangorious> gilles: hm, that's all that was needed in hoary and breezy
[11:18] <fangorious> gilles: sounds like the dapper packages are broken then
[11:18] <psusi> Belgain: what makes you think that?
[11:18] <spuds> when I changed something in crontab -e, how do I make the settins initialised ?
[11:18] <ynze> good evening, said someone using ubuntu first time...
[11:19] <gilles> fangorious: ok, so wait and see...
[11:19] <psusi> spuds: save and exit
[11:19] <triablo_> Good evening
[11:19] <ynze> thanks.
[11:19] <spuds> psusi: that doesnt work, it doesnt run
[11:19] <fangorious> gilles: you should file a bug report, and maybe post on ubuntuforums.org too (there's a dapper forum there)
[11:19] <psusi> then you didn't set up the crontab right
[11:20] <fangorious> spuds: can you clarify "it doesn't run"
[11:20] <ynze> Starting years ago at AIX, its time for a linux...
[11:20] <Belgain> is "lsof" supposed to give me a list of what files are open, and what process is using them?  it doesn't seem to list the /proc entry for the raid resync speed - is this because /proc entries are special?
[11:20] <amphi> christopher_: did you see any interesting in messages?
[11:20] <fangorious> spuds: do you mean the cron job didn't run or the editor didn't save/exit?
[11:20] <xvium> what the heck when i configure i get an error because apparently libvisual 0.2 is missing but 0.2 is installed
[11:20] <amphi> christopher_: that tail command is not going to magically make the thing work ;)
[11:20] <fangorious> Belgain: I find fuser a little simpler than lsof, but 'lsof | grep filename' should work
[11:20] <ynze> well, nice to have been here. Have to go to bed: early up in the morning..
[11:21] <ynze> Hope to speak to you again triablo...
[11:21] <fangorious> xvium: you have the -dev package installed for that lib?
[11:21] <triablo_> Does anybody succeded to install the Ati fglrx driver?
[11:21] <spuds> fangorious: I will try to explain. I made a bash script, which needs sudo. When I run "sudo script.sh" it works. Then I edited it so it doesnt needs root, and add it to /etc/crontab, that one works. So the script works and the crontab 'line' works. But now I need to fix it together and run the rootscript as root.
[11:21] <beerockxs> triablo_, followed the instructions at !ati?
[11:21] <beerockxs> !ati
[11:21] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:22] <m0wax> how do I run commands as the last thing after boot up.  Normally I would just use the /etc/rc.local
[11:22] <spuds> when I do crontab -e it shows a line of code located in a file in /tmp/
[11:22] <Belgain> fangorious: neither fuser nor lsof list that file as being open.  however doing an "ls -l" in that directory shows that the file is being updated...
[11:22] <triablo_> Well I installed succesfully, but I have an error in Xorg.0.log and I dont know how to fix it
[11:23] <xvium> lol Im not sure ? can you n00bify ?
[11:23] <fangorious> triablo_: i've used this howto for three versions in breezy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[11:23] <xvium> the only package i can see is the one lib visual in synaptic
[11:23] <fangorious> spuds: so you want the command to run from root's crontab?
[11:23] <spuds> fangorious, yes
[11:23] <beerockxs> fangorious, you don't have any other idea, I suppose?
[11:23] <fangorious> Belgain: well maybe the process updating it is closing the file handle every time
[11:23] <mindamp> can someone help me figure out why this won't compile? ... http://pastebin.com/556711
[11:23] <fangorious> beerockxs: about the suspend on the logout menu? nope
[11:23] <spuds> fangorious, I want this to run as root: 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * root /home/myusername/script.sh
[11:24] <mindamp> ive tried with gcc4.0.2 and gcc3.4
[11:24] <fangorious> spuds: did you run crontab -e as yourself or as root?
[11:24] <Belgain> fangorious: yeah, that's what i thought too... how can i go about figuring what process is doing it?  just "ps -eaf" and then look for something suspicious?
[11:24] <spuds> as root
[11:24] <triablo_> Well,I did exactly after that HowTO but I got the following error: Kernel Module version does *not* match driver
[11:24] <triablo_> incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[11:24] <spuds> when I run the crontab -e command again it still shows the line. Shouldn't it be gone ?
[11:24] <fangorious> spuds: you've confirmed the command is present in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root ?
[11:25] <spuds> it is in there
[11:25] <spuds> fangorious, it is in there
[11:25] <fangorious> spuds: why would it be gone unless you deleted it?
[11:25] <bjornkri> hey hey
[11:25] <thekurst> what version of samba ships with dapper?
[11:26] <spuds> fangorious, I thought crontab -e writes to a tmp file and then gets the content and add them to root's crontab
[11:26] <xvium> fangorious: where can i download the dev package?
[11:26] <fangorious> spuds: have you checked mail as root? if there was any output not caught by the script, cron will mail it to the owner of that crontab
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> Question: I'm trying to migrate users into LDAP, and when I migrate the "admin" group to LDAP, and remove references to LDAP-stored usernames to it, (like my own user), sudo and kdesu both stop working, but re-adding me back to the admin group it works fine again. I have no other group-associated issues that I have found in testing, just sudo.
[11:26] <spuds> fangorious, how can I check the mail ?
[11:26] <fangorious> xvium, apt-get <package>-dev would be my first guess
[11:27] <fangorious> spuds, as root, run 'mail'
[11:27] <evan_> fangorious: how can i blacklist something if I can't boot the system?
[11:27] <fangorious> Belgain: you could try running fuser in a loop
[11:27] <spuds> fangorious, I dont have mail. I run server ubuntu.
[11:27] <bjornkri> Could someone tell me what sort of video support Ubuntu has? I've been trying to play videos of various types and sizes from my network and every single one has left totem stuffed, complaining about a missing plugin.
[11:27] <fangorious> evan_: you got a root shell botting in single user mode, right?
[11:27] <jodanlime> can somebody tell me how to either a) add matchbox to the sessions chooser or B)shutdown gnome but still have x running so that I can start matchbox
[11:27] <bjornkri> This is from the live CD, mind... Trying it out before I dive in
[11:28] <evan_> fangorious: no it freezes on "Starting hotplug system" even in singe user mode
[11:28] <fangorious> spuds: is there anything in /var/spool/mail/root ?
[11:28] <Belgain> fangorious: presmably i'd be pretty lucky to catch it?  it'll take a pretty tiny amount of time to update the file...
[11:28] <FliesLikeALap> does anyone know how to use vbetool to get around the freeze errors on resume from sleep/hibernate when using glx drivers for ati?
[11:28] <bjornkri> Just want to be sure there's an explanation for this (like Totem is crap, get VNC or something) before I go ahead and install
[11:28] <Solo> What is the KERNEL_FLAV?
[11:28] <spuds> how can I make a program to be able to run as root ?
[11:28] <bjornkri> er... VLC
[11:28] <fangorious> Belgain: it's all I can think of
[11:28] <F43RY> Hi all, someone can suggest me a program to edit lyrics in mp3 files?
[11:29] <Belgain> fangorious: i'll give it a go, ta
[11:29] <evan_> fangorious: by the way kudos on helping so many people out. esspecially at the same time
[11:29] <xvium> fangorious: yeah that dosen't work
[11:29] <fangorious> spuds: you can chmod +S it
[11:29] <spuds> fangorious, how can I make tethereal to be able to run without root?
[11:29] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to install nvidia drivers on an offline machine, and it can't find a precompiled kernel module for the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel. It proceeds to try to compile, but my gcc version doesn't match that used to compile the kernel. When I bypass this, the compiled module doesn't load properly. What should I do?
[11:29] <xvium> fangorious: and you'd think it would show in synaptic too
[11:29] <jodanlime> can somebody tell me how to either a) add matchbox to the sessions chooser or B)shutdown gnome but still have x running so that I can start matchbox
[11:29] <CryoTox> okay need some help
[11:29] <fangorious> xvium, is the missing package one provided by the ubuntu repos?
[11:30] <xvium> what missing package ?
[11:30] <Psi-Jack> Why is it when I sudo, auth.log shows /nothing/ about PAM authentication being used?
[11:30] <fangorious> xvium: you said the configure script said you have some missing dependency
[11:30] <Solo> Hm. I am typing "fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version ${KERNEL_FLAV} --revision ${KERNEL_VERS} --config old configure" but get the echo: Fakeroot, no valid command. What can I use instead?
[11:30] <CryoTox> I goto software updates and reload and it says loading 17 of 19 than it freezes and won't load anymore
[11:31] <xvium> as far as i know its not supplyed by ubuntu
[11:31] <jodanlime> Solo, sudo
[11:31] <Solo> tnx
[11:31] <fangorious> evan_: :) gotta have something to pass the time
[11:31] <beerockxs> fangorious, I totally suck, I actually didn't uncomment the ACPI_SLEEP line, i just changed it from false to true and didn't remove the comment. d'oh.
[11:31] <fangorious> lol
[11:31] <JockeTF> Hello! :D
[11:31] <bjornkri> Heja
[11:31] <xvium> im trying to compile project m (milkdrop for linux)
[11:31] <beerockxs> FliesLikeABrick, I had an explanation googled earlier that exlained that, let me look
[11:31] <bjornkri> tja ba?
[11:31] <JockeTF> hejsan :D
[11:31] <xvium> and it requires libvisual 0.2 or greatewr
[11:31] <bjornkri> (sorry, that's about the only swedish I know ;))
[11:31] <Solo> jodanlime: sudo: make-kpkg: command not found
[11:31] <Solo>  <-- what can i use instead of that one then? :)
[11:31] <JockeTF> hehe
[11:32] <xvium> and synaptic says it is installed
[11:32] <spuds> how can I make a program executable by any user ?
[11:32] <xvium> but i config and it says its missing
[11:32] <evan_> would anyone reccoment ReiserFS over Ext3?
[11:32] <bjornkri> and a few bob hund lyrics
[11:32] <jodanlime> Solo, I dont really know, you could try running as root
[11:32] <FliesLikeALap> spuds chmod +x filename
[11:32] <AntMaz> Failed to run users-admin as user root:
[11:32] <AntMaz>  Child terminated with 1 status
[11:32] <AntMaz> what do i do
[11:32] <jodanlime> can somebody tell me how to either a) add matchbox to the sessions chooser or B)shutdown gnome but still have x running so that I can start matchbox
[11:32] <beerockxs> FliesLikeABrick, change POST_VIDEO, USE_DPMS and SAVE_VBE_STATE in /etc/defaults/acpi-support to false
[11:32] <fangorious> xvium: apt-cache search libvisual turn up anything?
[11:32] <F43RY> Just only know a program to edit lyrics in mp3. Someone can help me?
[11:33] <Solo> jodanlime, : i am running as root..
[11:33] <beerockxs> that made it work for someone
[11:33] <spuds> how can I make a program executable by any user ?
[11:33] <fangorious> evan_: not I
[11:33] <jodanlime> Solo, then why do you need to use fakeroot?
[11:33] <vladuz976> anybody know where i can get help with css style sheets?
[11:33] <bjornkri> spuds: chmod I guesS?
[11:33] <midwinter> vladuz976, #css
[11:33] <bronze> spuds: chmod a+x <filename>
[11:33] <vladuz976> midwinter: cool
[11:33] <Solo> jodanlime, : i am installing some drivers, and it says that i shall type that in the terminal.
[11:33] <fangorious> spuds: chmod o+x file
[11:33] <Solo> jodanlime, http://elonen.iki.fi/code/misc-notes/debian-rt61/index.html
[11:33] <xvium> xvium@Xvium:~/Desktop/libvisual-0.2.0$  apt-cache search libvisual
[11:33] <xvium> libvisual0.2 - Audio visualization framework
[11:33] <spuds> ffs I go back to windows asap
[11:34] <evan_> vladuz976: www.w3schools.com
[11:34] <spuds> it's my own computer and I can't do shit with it
[11:34] <jodanlime> Solo, huh, I dont know, kinda new....
[11:34] <AntMaz> Failed to run users-admin as user root  Child terminated with 1 status
[11:34] <Drac[Server] > I should mention that I'm trying to install from the .run file..
[11:34] <bjornkri> hehehe
[11:34] <Solo> jodanlime, hehe:)
[11:34] <jodanlime> can somebody tell me how to either a) add matchbox to the sessions chooser or B)shutdown gnome but still have x running so that I can start matchbox
[11:34] <bjornkri> I know how you feel
[11:35] <jodanlime> Solo, try it without the fakeroot
[11:35] <spuds> this is plain bs, I am trying to run a frigging script for three evenings. Windows would have cost me 2- minutes.
[11:35] <fangorious> AntMaz: booted in single user mode? users-admin needs X, did you try the gpasswd command?
[11:35] <Solo> jodanlime, i have tryed.
[11:35] <Solo> jodanlime, doesnt work:/
[11:35] <AntMaz> yea
[11:35] <MrPockets> does Gnome Baker burn DVD video?
[11:35] <bjornkri> takes time, spuds
[11:35] <fangorious> spuds: was there any mail for root?
[11:35] <jodanlime> Solo, wow, youll have to ask someone who knows more than me :/
[11:35] <spuds> fangorious, I dont have the program mail
[11:36] <spuds> sudo: mail: command not found
[11:36] <fangorious> spuds: that's fine. mail is an MUA, it just reads /var/spool/main/<user>
[11:36] <Solo> jodanlime, yeah.
[11:36] <fangorious> spuds: cron requires an MTA, which puts stuff in /var/spool/mail/<user>
[11:36] <Drac[Server] > I want to install drivers for my Nvidia GeForce 2 card from the restricted repositories. Is this possible?
[11:36] <spuds> -bash: cd: /var/spool/main/: No such file or directory
[11:36] <AntMaz> i hit esc which came to a menu so i hit e then the shell command came up i typed the command then it when back the the menu and t said boot qpasswrd -a anthony adm as root
[11:36] <jodanlime> can someone help me with my problem?
[11:37] <jodanlime> can somebody tell me how to either a) add matchbox to the sessions chooser or B)shutdown gnome but still have x running so that I can start matchbox
[11:37] <fangorious> spuds: sorry, /var/spool/mail
[11:37] <fangorious> AntMaz: run 'id -a' as anthony, do you see adm listed as one of your groups?
[11:37] <spuds> fangorious: it is empty
[11:38] <Belgain> hmm.... running fuser in a loop doesn't seem to have worked... i'll try looking for suspicious processes....
[11:38] <AntMaz> i did that now its gave me a >
[11:38] <AntMaz> in shell
[11:38] <Drac[Server] > jodanlime, add the starter file for matchbox as a line in a .desktop file in the GDM sessions directory. Then restart X to get back to GDM and select matchbox from the list.
[11:38] <fangorious> spuds: so you have a script that needs to run as root, out of cron. you have a crontab entry to call that script in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root
[11:39] <Drac[Server] > jodanlime: The "Session" list, that is.
[11:39] <Cooner750> hello
[11:39] <jodanlime> Drac[Server] , wow, your awesome
[11:39] <Cooner750> I have yet another question
[11:39] <fangorious> spuds: looking at the crontab line you pasted, why do you "root" in there?
[11:39] <bjornkri> I just have to say: I think this live CD thing is amazing... :P
[11:39] <Cooner750> Is there any program to view the video from a USB webcam (specifically a Labtec)?
[11:39] <fangorious> spuds: that line will try to run " root /home/myusername/script.sh" as root
[11:39] <vladuz976> anybody here know about css style sheets and can help real quick?
[11:40] <spuds> because crontab says that I have to: # m h dom mon dow user  command
[11:40] <bjornkri> I suppose everything I do will be removed as soon as I shut down, yeah?
[11:40] <AntMaz> anthony@ubuntu:~$ id -g
[11:40] <Cooner750> I tried Camorama and the whole system just freezes when starting it with the cam connected
[11:40] <AntMaz> 1000
[11:40] <wacek> #ubuntu.pl
[11:40] <mlistus> hi again.
[11:40] <spuds> fangorious: I just removed 'root' from the beginning of the command
[11:40] <bjornkri> Ant: did you do id -a ?
[11:41] <fangorious> spuds: no cron I've ever used puts the username in the line. the user to run as is identified by the name of the crontab file (/var/spool/cron/crontabs/<username>)
[11:41] <Drac[Server] > jodanlime, it's easiest to copy and edit the GNOME .desktop file, rather than trying to make a new one. Copy the GNOME file and edit the copy to your liking.
[11:41] <AntMaz> yea admin is on ther ther verible is 4
[11:41] <fangorious> spuds: maybe that's something for the /etc/crontab stuff
[11:41] <AntMaz> 4(adm)
[11:41] <mlistus> is there any pointer about how to make a custom ubuntu install cd, with eventually a custom kernel, and custom packages?
[11:41] <spuds> fangorious: yeah that is where it came from and why I thought I had to put that in crontab -e aswell. But that is not true ?
[11:41] <fangorious> AntMaz: so you're a member of the adm group now, try 'sudo gedit' (or some other equally inane command)
[11:42] <Drac[Server] > I want to install drivers for my Nvidia GeForce 2 card from the restricted repositories. Is this possible?
[11:42] <spuds> fangorious, now I just have to wait 4 minutes to see if it worked
[11:42] <DJ_tobias> where is the fetchmail.conf file, i thought it would be in /etc ?
[11:42] <fangorious> spuds: you don't need it for a user crontab. running 'crontab -e' edits /var/spool/cron/crontabs/<user>
[11:42] <AntMaz> anthony@ubuntu:~$ sudo gedit
[11:42] <AntMaz> anthony@ubuntu:~$
[11:42] <Cooner750> hello?
[11:43] <AntMaz> yet when i run users and groups it doesnt load
[11:43] <Syco54645> how can i get divx5?
[11:43] <AntMaz> gives me this
[11:43] <AntMaz> Failed to run users-admin as user root:
[11:43] <AntMaz>  Child terminated with 1 status
[11:43] <fangorious> spuds, as root, you can run 'crontab -e <user>' to edit any other user's crontab, or even 'crontab -r <user>' to remove it
[11:43] <jodanlime> Drac[Server] , how do I find these files?
[11:44] <topyli> AntMaz: you may have to log out and log in, or at least run a new login shell
[11:44] <AntMaz> i love it when you click on things and they dont work
[11:45] <Drac[Server] > jodanlime, um... Lemme see if I can recall where the GNOME session files are... as for the starter file, that should be noted in the matchbox README
[11:45] <fangorious> AntMaz: are you runnging 'sudo users-admin' or clicking on System->Administration->Users (should have the same result either way)
[11:45] <maxwell> how do i get my belkin wireless card working in ubuntu?
[11:45] <spuds> fangorious, how can I see on which date/time a file has been created ?
[11:45] <j2daosh> how do i add wine to my open with context menu?
[11:46] <fangorious> maxwell: magic pixie dust
[11:46] <fangorious> spuds: ls -ls file
[11:46] <maxwell> seriously
[11:46] <maxwell> is there a way?
[11:46] <mark_> anyone know how to get Limewire to work on Ubuntu?
[11:46] <zebraFusion> Hi
[11:46] <zebraFusion> I need some help with VNC
[11:46] <AndyFitz> http://www.brisgeek.com/screenshot.jpg   in the words of australias biggest biggot  " please explain "
[11:46] <zebraFusion> I have it set to allow users to view/control the desktop with a password
[11:46] <j2daosh> zebra... get putty
[11:46] <j2daosh> or freenx
[11:46] <spuds> fangorious, well I had two cronjobs, the "this got to be working, touch file.txt" just did it!
[11:47] <fangorious> spuds: well, that will give you the last modified time, you can run 'stat file' to get access, modify, and change times
[11:47] <tobbw> newbie help: how do you make apt-get know what mirrors to look in? (you can use online mirrors, right?)
[11:47] <maxwell> how do i get bittorent to work?
[11:47] <maxwell> can I download stuff with it?
[11:47] <fangorious> maxwell: do you know what chipset the belkin uses?
[11:47] <xvium> hey fangorious , what was that last command you told me to search atp for a package?
[11:47] <DJ_tobias> how would i do a search for fetchmail.conf ?
[11:47] <zebraFusion> j2daosh, no. This is Linux-Linux,
[11:47] <fangorious> xvium: 'apt-cache search leyword'
[11:47] <Cooner750> anyone know why when I tried Camorama and the whole system froze when starting with the cam connected?
[11:47] <fangorious> DJ_tobias: 'locate fetchmail.conf'
[11:48] <j2daosh> zebra... what is linux linux?
[11:48] <topyli> AndyFitz: what would you like us to explain about that?
[11:48] <AntMaz> still yet the same error
[11:48] <fangorious> spuds: good
[11:48] <zebraFusion> j2daosh, my connection
[11:48] <j2daosh> and?
[11:48] <xvium> thanks
[11:48] <zebraFusion> I want to use GUI's remotely.
[11:48] <j2daosh> yeah......
[11:48] <zebraFusion> using a vncserver and a vnc viewer
[11:48] <j2daosh> freenx will do it
[11:48] <zebraFusion> I already have the VNC server running on my home machine
[11:49] <thekurst> does anyone know what version of samba ships with dapper?
[11:49] <zebraFusion> but when I run "vncviewer my.ip.here:1 it fails
[11:49] <zebraFusion> and says it cannot connect
[11:49] <Drac[Server] > jodanlime, hold on. I'm asking ##gnome about where the .desktop files for sessions are kept.
[11:49] <jodanlime> Drac[Server] , thanks alot
[11:49] <AndyFitz> topyli,  how do I  prevent the artifacts .  and once thats fixed.  how to I replace metacity :)
[11:49] <j2daosh> where does it fail?
[11:50] <topyli> AndyFitz: you're running xgl?
[11:50] <hatake_kakashi> is it possible for apt-get to automatically resume failed download packages? and do it in infinite loops until each package is fully downloaded?
[11:50] <spuds> I think the biggest disadvantage from linux over windows is that in linux there seems to be less consistency between programs.
[11:50] <christopher_> samba is a server app right?
[11:50] <AndyFitz> topyli  yeah
[11:50] <zebraFusion> See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC.
[11:50] <zebraFusion> vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[11:50] <zebraFusion> Unable to connect to VNC server
[11:50] <Solo> How do I install tofrodos?
[11:50] <j2daosh> that is probably because of the keys/authentication being wrong
[11:50] <topyli> AndyFitz: nobody here is likely to be able to help you =)
[11:50] <AntMaz> i have aresolution to my problem
[11:50] <AndyFitz> well ...  I ran LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa DISPLAY=:2 compiz gconf decoration ........ ( etc
[11:50] !lilo:*! Got him! Pesky game spammer. :)
[11:51] <fangorious> AntMaz: ?
[11:51] <AntMaz> reinstall ubuntu
[11:51] <fangorious> lol
[11:51] <zebraFusion> I don't even get to the authenticcation, j2daosh
[11:51] <Aegir> AndyFitz, Try it outside a nested window. I have heard that it does weird things in a nested window.
[11:51] <AndyFitz> topyli,  all good .  i'll keep having a play
[11:51] <tobbw> newbie help: how do you make apt-get know what mirrors to look in? (you can use online mirrors, right?)
[11:51] <fangorious> well, that's all for me for now
[11:52] <AndyFitz> aegir,  how do I do that .   since updating I can't grab any other display    ( eg CTRL+ALT +F1  takes me to a black screen and not a console
[11:52] <zebraFusion> Does ubuntu come installed with an ssh app?
[11:52] <j2daosh> zebraFusion, just like with my freenx... when it says that it is because of the authentication
[11:52] <AntMaz> hey can somebody remote connect to me and f(-)x0r my computer
[11:52] <j2daosh> can u ssh to your machine?
[11:52] <zebraFusion> j2daosh, I NEVER had an option to authenticate.
[11:52] <ploom> ehh - I was trying to use some of the gtk input methods (inside xchat even) and surprinsingly found only default one to be working...
[11:52] <phiber_optic> does anybody know when I ssh to a unix machine, how do i stay with my keyboard configuartions?
[11:52] <zebraFusion> j2daosh, if you have no idea what you're talking about please let someone else assist me.
[11:52] <ploom> what to do in order to get for example cyrillic transliterated to work too?
[11:52] <thekurst> yeah samba is for network file sharing with windows/mac/linux
[11:52] <christopher_> AntMaz, and what to your computer?
[11:53] <AntMaz> fuxor
[11:53] <midwinter> tobbw, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:53] <[Yoni] > Hi all I need hep I can't logon to my ubuntu via the gui, only via ssh
[11:53] <christopher_> thekurst, i installed that in my Syn.Pack.Man. and its not displayed in my menu...
[11:53] <[Yoni] > I'm getting an error msg about that I don't have enough space \ or that my home directory profile not avalible for write priv.
[11:54] <AntMaz> is there anyway to login as the root user
[11:54] <Drac[Server] > jodanlime, ##gnome won't tell me, and I'm afraid I have to go. I'm sorry I can't help you further. I'm glad I've helped this much, though.
[11:54] <[Yoni] > how can i check the size of my HD? + directory in my box?
[11:54] <j2daosh> zebraFusion, seriously... just use freenx... it is alot more secure then just the password authenication that it uses... it doesn't encrypt its transmitted data
[11:54] <christopher_> is samba somethign that has an icon to in the menus when installed or is it all terminal?
[11:54] <christopher_> AntMaz, yes but i dont know the exact code to change the root pw
[11:54] <phiber_optic> does anybody know when I ssh to a unix machine, how do i stay with my keyboard configuartions? Sicne when I ssh, some program on the remote host I am not able to press enter, backspace arrows
[11:54] <jodanlime> Drac[Server] , thanks alot, maybe later you can help
[11:55] <j2daosh> using vnc is like using telnet... obsolete and very insecure
[11:55] <christopher_> you change it to your own pw and then login in as root with the new pw
[11:55] <Drac[Server] > jodanlime: /usr/share/xsession
[11:55] <jodanlime> Drac[Server] , awesome
[11:55] <thekurst> christopher_ ubuntu 5.10 has a litttle front end built into it but its most powerful using cli
[11:55] <AntMaz> i know the password i was just an 455hole and decided to diasble my admin funtcions
[11:55] <AntMaz> cause im a n00b
[11:55] <[Yoni] > Does ubuntu have anything like recycle bin of windows?
[11:55] <AntMaz> yes yoni
[11:55] <AndyFitz> yoni,  yep but you have to turn it on if you want it on the desktop
[11:55] <christopher_> VNC Very NseCure
[11:56] <AndyFitz> its currently in the panel
[11:56] <evan_> ahh.. nothing better than eating nutter butters while spending countless hours trying to get Ubuntu to work on a laptop
[11:56] <[Yoni] > How can I empty it from ssh via root?
[11:56] <[Yoni] > *as root
[11:56] <AntMaz> sounds like fun evan
[11:56] <Prophet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8718 <--- when it hit's 99% it stays there
[11:56] <[Yoni] > I think i have there 8 GB of my H.D, I have a drive of 9 GB @ all rofl :)
[11:56] <christopher_> cause im trying to set up a server too so i can share my files with my brothers
[11:56] <rewt_> So I have gDesklets. I put them in my startup in sessions, and I even leave them on when I'm shutting down, and I leave the Save session marked. Though when I restart my computer, they do not start on start up....What do I do?
[11:57] <AntMaz> ROFLCOPTER
[11:57] <rewt_> o.O
[11:57] <j2daosh> rewt... put them in initab
[11:57] <j2daosh> inittab
[11:57] <thekurst> christopher_ what os's are they running?
[11:57] <rewt_> where is initab?
[11:57] <[Yoni] > [01:01]  <AntMaz> yes yoni
[11:57] <[Yoni] > [01:01]  <AndyFitz> yoni,  yep but you have to turn it on if you want it on the desktop
[11:57] <ploom>    - damn - it works inside terminal window, but not inside xchat one :-(
[11:57] <[Yoni] > How can i empty it from the console?:\
[11:57] <AntMaz> hey has anyone ever come in here and ask how to install aol on linux
[11:58] <rewt_> I've never seen it AntMaz
[11:58] <AntMaz> oh god
[11:58] <midwinter> rewt_ /etc/inittab ?
[11:58] <j2daosh> lol
[11:58] <christopher_> WinXP
[11:58] <j2daosh> chris... use samba and share whatever folder you want
[11:58] <AntMaz> whistler
[11:58] <thekurst> christopher_ samba's the way to go
[11:58] <j2daosh> rewt_, .... man inittab
[11:58] <AntMaz> remember when it was a beta crashing system
[11:59] <Prophet> So anyhelp for me, whenever I update it gets to 99% of finding the files than freezes
[11:59] <AndyFitz> never tried to empty trash from console
[11:59] <j2daosh> inittab is like cronttab acccept it starts up when the comp does
[11:59] <rewt_> i know....
[11:59] <eternaljoy> hi
[11:59] <AndyFitz> go to  .trash
[11:59] <evan_> its funny.. AOL blocked www.google.com/aol for Teen level accounts but they didnt block www.google.com
[11:59] <AndyFitz> in your user directory
[11:59] <AntMaz> id rather use windows 3.1 on a 486 with 16 megs of ram then xp
[11:59] <eternaljoy> i never get any more messages about new upgrades
[11:59] <rewt_> where in initab does it go?
[11:59] <christopher_> thekurst, i dont know how to access it though
[11:59] <AntMaz> thats funny
[11:59] <phiber_optic> does anybody know when I ssh to a unix machine, how do i stay with my keyboard configuartions? Sicne when I ssh, some program on the remote host I am not able to press enter, backspace arrows
[11:59] <j2daosh> eternal... thats a good thing....
[11:59] <eternaljoy> how come i never get any more messages about new upgrades?  yet I know there is a kernel upgrade etc, How can I upograde my system to latest ?