[12:00] <j2daosh> christopher_, sudo apt-get install samba (if it isn't installed already
[12:00] <j2daosh> )
[12:00] <christopher_> j2daosh, its installed already
[12:00] <AntMaz> simba's a lion
[12:00] <christopher_> just dont know how to access it
[12:00] <bjornkri> I'm following some instructions from ubuntuguide.org, and it's asking me to run sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame ... only that gives me a 'Couldn't find package' message
[12:00] <spuds> why cannot I run tethereal from a cronjob ?
[12:00] <bjornkri> How screwed am I?
[12:00] <j2daosh> then go into your gdm... go to the folder you want to share... right click and hit the share... it will ask what type of share you want to make it... choose smb (windows) and thats it
[12:00] <j2daosh> the xp comp maps to the folder and you are all good
[12:01] <AntMaz> bj i think you have set the repositories
[12:01] <rewt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8720  <---copy of my initab....where would i put it?
[12:01] <j2daosh> bjornkri, pretty screwed
[12:01] <thekurst> j2daosh i didn't even know you could do that i did everything cli editing my config file manually
[12:01] <bjornkri> I've done that, I think. Both gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg work fine
[12:01] <j2daosh> lol thekurst u serious?!
[12:01] <j2daosh> thats that hard way
[12:01] <j2daosh> im lazy
[12:02] <JockeTF> me too
[12:02] <thekurst> j2daosh i'm so serious man
[12:02] <evan_> hey, im just curious.. who has opinions on Gentoo linux? (That's what Distro I am switching from)
[12:02] <AntMaz> your lazy what you doing with linux then
[12:02] <thekurst> @ AntMaz LOL
[12:02] <JockeTF> synaptic is for the lazy AntMaz!!
[12:02] <enyc> evan_: I deal with both
[12:02] <christopher_> j2daosh,  im using flux
[12:02] <j2daosh> lol because i can be more effiencently lazy
[12:02] <rewt_> evan...takes too long to instal :-P
[12:02] <thekurst> we know evan_ isn't lazy
[12:02] <rewt_> *install
[12:02] <AntMaz> true dat
[12:02] <enyc> evan_: both have advantages for sowe sconarois....
[12:03] <thekurst> i did a gentoo install once: two days
[12:03] <AntMaz> dat file
[12:03] <evan_> hehe yeah. its not too bad if you follow their manual.
[12:03] <christopher_> j2daosh,  so i dont have a gdm i dont think
[12:03] <aio> Hey, very good night. A surprise for me, WINE!!
[12:03] <j2daosh> can u see folders? well icons of them?
[12:03] <evan_> 2 days? wow i did mine in like.. 4 hours and it was my first time using linux
[12:03] <j2daosh> do you have a desktop?
[12:03] <xtao> where am I now?
[12:03] <rewt_> AntMaz......How would I put it in initab? I've opened it up, but I don't see any options like "bootup" or "startup" Nor do I see any other apps placed in this file.
[12:03] <christopher_> ummm
[12:03] <xtao> quit
[12:03] <christopher_> i dont know im new to FLUX haha
[12:03] <j2daosh> lol
[12:04] <christopher_> this is my second day really using it
[12:04] <thekurst> naw man i was using an old dell inspiron 500Mhz 128mb
[12:04] <rewt_> I love flux.
[12:04] <LinuxJones> Where can I set file associations again anybody ?
[12:04] <j2daosh> christopher_, ok... can you see a desktop...
[12:04] <j2daosh> like in windows
[12:04] <thekurst> compile the kernel took about a day
[12:04] <AntMaz> this is my 5th day using linux dont ask me
[12:04] <j2daosh> u can put folders on it and files and everything
[12:04] <j2daosh> ?
[12:04] <christopher_> j2daosh,  lets just say.. it tooks me and others in here hours to get a wallpaper up on my background
[12:04] <rewt_> midwinter....do you know?
[12:04] <thekurst> compile x took another 6houts
[12:04] <j2daosh> christopher... if you have wallpaper in the background you have a gdm
[12:05] <AntMaz> hey anyne else you jedit
[12:05] <aio> I use gThumb for viewing graphic data but i could not copy and paste in Kolourpaint to work. Now I installed WINE and well, well, well, I made a shortcut in Ubuntu tool bar and it works as in Windows. I copy and paste onto Kolourpaint. Incredible!! Now I try to open winword but an error ocurrs.
[12:05] <AntMaz> use'
[12:05] <christopher_> all i see is my background and a little bar on the bottom.. no task bars like in ubuntu's gnome default desktop
[12:05] <j2daosh> and for future reference chris... bring up a terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install gnome-art"
[12:05] <bjornkri> grrreat. Couldn't find package w32codecs either
[12:05] <j2daosh> it is the easiest way to get the gdm customized
[12:05] <AntMaz> bj you have to download those
[12:05] <MisterN> n8
[12:05] <j2daosh> so you dont have anything about applications....system.... nothing?
[12:06] <aio> I am working with ACDSee inlinux!!
[12:06] <christopher_> j2daosh, what does that exactly do? one wallpaper or more than one?
[12:06] <bjornkri> Yeah, just following the ubuntuguide.org instructions. Seems so easy there
[12:06] <AntMaz> nice that my old looking at porn pictures program
[12:06] <nailbiter> bjornkri: That package is in the Marillat archive. http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[12:06] <christopher_> j2daosh,  yeah when i right click....
[12:06] <j2daosh> christopher... it is a program for viewing a bunch of different wallpapers/themes/icons... picking what you want and then installing it easily
[12:06] <aio> I open mspaint from the instalation in Windows 98 I have but not in the XP one. Why?
[12:06] <bjornkri> thanks nailbiter
[12:06] <bjornkri> I'll check it out
[12:07] <aio> Does wine has no support for XP?
[12:07] <christopher_> oh i will get that now then so i dont have to edit my flux startup file next time
[12:07] <AntMaz> aio forget about xp
[12:07] <j2daosh> yes it does... u have to type in a terminal... winecfg
[12:07] <j2daosh> then change it there aio
[12:07] <AntMaz> it sucks and its the worst os ive ever used
[12:07] <aio> I am forgetting Xp.
[12:07] <aio> :)
[12:07] <teoti> I need to know how to change my initab >.< or how to put a startup program in it
[12:07] <AntMaz> there is a paint program on african word for humans
[12:08] <SirKillalot> how can I lock up my PC immediately using xscreensaver?
[12:08] <nailbiter> aio: If you ran winesetup to configure wine, you would have been asked for the path to your Windows folder; just run winesetup again to pick your Windows XP installation instead
[12:08] <aio> but I discovered I could not copy and paste with gthumb to kolourpaint. Just said Copy... So i do it now with ACDSee and ThumbPlus
[12:09] <aio> Is there a possibility to copy and paste from gthumb?
[12:09] <nailbiter> SirKillalot: GNOME and KDE have a global keyboard shortcut for locking the screen
[12:09] <AntMaz> thats how i code with php copy and paste
[12:09] <j2daosh> aio... u change wine to xp and install paintshoppro 9
[12:09] <SirKillalot> nailbiter, yeah, whats it?
[12:09] <teoti> AntMaz......How would I put it in initab? I've opened it up, but I don't see any options like "bootup" or "startup" Nor do I see any other apps placed in this file.
[12:10] <aio> i dont know how to do it, The gimp is good to me
[12:10] <AntMaz> this is my 5th day using linux dont ask me
[12:10] <teoti> Why suggest it if you dont know? Do you even know if this will work?
[12:10] <aio> from console i write winesetup and nothing happens
[12:10] <lothwen> what are the latest mesa package in dapper ?
[12:10] <nailbiter> SirKillalot: Check System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts; I can't remember it off the top of my head
[12:10] <lothwen> xlibmesa or libgl1-mesa ?
[12:10] <AntMaz> aio get apt wine
[12:10] <nailbiter> SirKillalot: 'xscreensaver-command -lock' also works
[12:10] <AntMaz> i think thats the one
[12:10] <lothwen> whay are their diferences ?
[12:10] <SirKillalot> thanks!
[12:10] <Drac[Server] > Where is the image seen when Ubuntu is loading up located?
[12:10] <nailbiter> aio: 'Nothing happens?' You mean there's no such program installed on your system?
[12:10] <christopher_> hey who used FLUX in here?
[12:11] <aio> get apt wine = command not found
[12:11] <christopher_> whats the root pw to set up the GDM?
[12:11] <AntMaz> drac you gonna edit it like in 98 when you could edit the boot screen
[12:11] <teoti> Drac...to customize that image easily, I suggest you get gTweakUI
[12:11] <aio> I click in a shortcut of ACDSee on Ubuntu desktop and it runs like in win
[12:11] <thekurst> can anyone in here  help me with this? : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126908
[12:11] <nailbiter> christopher_: On Ubuntu, the root account is locked by default. So when prompted for a password, use your regular user password
[12:11] <bjornkri> ok, I've been wondering why the image files on my shared windows drive haven't been opening...
[12:11] <AntMaz> aio wget apt wine
[12:11] <nailbiter> evan_: That usually means it's stuck loading a device driver
[12:12] <christopher_> nailbiter, im using FLUX
[12:12] <Hysty> evan_: that hotplug system is causing lots of issues for people
[12:12] <teoti> Its what I used. You store an image where you want then open gTweakUI and locate the image. Bam you're done.
[12:12] <christopher_> nailbiter, i tried my regular pw and it didnt work
[12:12] <aio> wget apt wine = error no service
[12:12] <bjornkri> It's been trying to open /home/ubuntu/smb://192.168.0.3/......
[12:12] <evan_> yeah, google and the forums told me that.. but it didn't give me much of a solution
[12:12] <AntMaz> hmm
[12:12] <Hysty> aio: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:12] <bjornkri> Guess I have to mount first or what?
[12:12] <teoti> Evan...what's the problem?
[12:12] <j2daosh> aio
[12:12] <aio> ?
[12:12] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:12] <JockeTF> aio: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:12] <AntMaz> ?
[12:13] <JockeTF> j2daosh: :)
[12:13] <AntMaz> yea thats the one
[12:13] <evan_> teoti: i have a fresh ubuntu install and when booting it stalls at "Starting hotplug subsystem..."
[12:13] <bjornkri> Maybe that's why Totem's been unable to play a single file yet, too
[12:13] <aio> ok ok wine is installed
[12:13] <nailbiter> christopher_: Yes, but gdm starts _before_ your desktop environment does. So it doesn't matter what DE you're using--just run 'gksudo gdmsetup' from the command line or choose System -> Administration -> Login
[12:14] <nailbiter> bjornkri: Totem requires w32codecs installed before it can play RealMedia, (most) QuickTime and WMV video
[12:14] <aio> but it only works with acdsee, thumbplus and all the applications from win i am trying, but no with mspaintXP nor officeXp nor office98. It does not matter cause i am working now with openoffice and goes fine
[12:14] <bjornkri> yeah, but I've been trying .mpgs as well
[12:14] <AntMaz> so im gonna try this once more . anyone got an idea on how i can add my name to admin
[12:14] <bjornkri> and .avis
[12:14] <nailbiter> aio: winesetup is packaged separately in the 'winesetup' package, incidentally
[12:14] <JockeTF> bjornkri: i recomend xine :)
[12:14] <AntMaz> or make another name from shell
[12:15] <evan_> :-( i dont wanna have to go with Mandrivia or something
[12:15] <teoti> Evan
[12:15] <evan_> teoti
[12:15] <nailbiter> aio: Copy-and-paste between KDE and GNOME applications is really flaky; between Windows and X11 apps, it's even worse
[12:15] <teoti> Look around /boot/grub
[12:15] <teoti> :)
[12:15] <bjornkri> What would be the best way to access network files from a windows computer? I've been able to browse there by doing File / Connect to server...
[12:15] <evan_> how can i do that if i cant get to a shell?
[12:15] <bjornkri> but double-clicking on anything seems to fail
[12:15] <AntMaz> aio if you use goldwave it doesnt run that great
[12:15] <bjornkri> So I thought I might have to mount?
[12:15] <teoti> evan
[12:16] <evan_> teoti
[12:16] <aio> nailbiter, i copy and paste from acdsee and kolourpaint and it went ok ok ok I think i wont see WinXP for a long time :)
[12:16] <Hysty> bjornkri: use winSCP
[12:16] <bjornkri> but I'm not entirely sure how that's done :P
[12:16] <aio> goldwave?
[12:16] <bjornkri> Ahhahh...
[12:16] <bjornkri> I mean the network files are on a windows computer
[12:16] <bjornkri> I'm on Ubuntu ;)
[12:16] <nailbiter> bjornkri: You need to install Samba on the Linux host to be able to share files natively with Windows systems
[12:17] <piotr_> no to jestem :-)
[12:17] <Hysty> ah rightio
[12:17] <bjornkri> sudo apt-wossname samba, right?
[12:17] <piotr_> that is my first time hehe
[12:17] <nailbiter> evan_: As a last resort, you can use 'init=/bin/bash' to get a shell just after the kernel finishes booting
[12:17] <aio> winesetuptk? is taht in synaptic?
[12:17] <bjornkri> I'm getting the hang of this... I hope
[12:17] <j2daosh> yes
[12:17] <tombs> hi all
[12:17] <j2daosh> but you dont want it
[12:17] <AntMaz> gota go move shit yay
[12:17] <aio> Il tel how i did it to run acdsee with wine
[12:17] <nailbiter> evan_: I believe there's a way to get hotplug to print debugging output (like what driver it's currently loading); I'm not sure how to do it, thoughs
[12:17] <piotr_> czesc
[12:18] <nailbiter> bjornkri: That's correct
[12:18] <bjornkri> Thanks :)
[12:18] <teoti> Evan still with me?
[12:18] <thekurst> no one?
[12:18] <evan_> teoti: yeah im here.
[12:18] <teoti> type  cd /boot
[12:18] <IdleOne> !ppc
[12:18] <ubotu> I guess ppc is PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer than Intel.
[12:19] <IdleOne> !ubuntuppc
[12:19] <ubotu> IdleOne: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:19] <teoti> then cd grub
[12:19] <teoti> no / before grub
[12:19] <aio> i went to where acdsee is in win dir and right click on it, then open with another application, down in that window i wrote the command wine, and it opened. Then i drag and drop th eexe to the desktop, i click with left botton of the mouse and opens like in win :)
[12:19] <b1ind> Anyone had any success w/ gaim 2.0b2 in dapper?
[12:19] <teoti> then type ls
[12:19] <evan_> teoti: i dont have a shell yet
[12:19] <teoti> that will list all the files in that folder
[12:19] <aio> mspaint 98 runs too
[12:20] <nailbiter> evan_: Pass 'init=/bin/bash' as a boot option to the kernel to get a shell immediately after the kernel starts
[12:20] <christopher_> j2daosh,  so how do i get access to Samba if i installed it
[12:20] <aio> it is incredible
[12:20] <nailbiter> christopher_: System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[12:20] <christopher_> also i did this for the gnome art stuff sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[12:20] <christopher_>  but how do i acces that
[12:20] <teoti> so what do u have?
[12:20] <teoti> a consule?
[12:20] <j2daosh> he has flux... not the norm gdm
[12:20] <nailbiter> christopher_: It's in your GNOME menu (if you're using GNOME)
[12:20] <XentoniX> does any one know how to add option "hide version" in server tree in xchat 2.6?
[12:21] <evan_> nailbiter: ok. im going that. also I am 90% sure it is the audi drivers failing. the speakers click right before it stalls
[12:21] <evan_> teoti: hold on, let me get to a shell
[12:21] <teoti> ok
[12:21] <nailbiter> christopher_: If you're _not_ using, GNOME, you can still invoke it from the command line with 'gksudo shares-admin'
[12:21] <christopher_> in my Sytem-> Admin -> alsaconf and pppconfig
[12:22] <aio> oooohhh, now i just click on any exe and it runs!!! :)
[12:22] <nailbiter> christopher_: Oh hang on--you're using Fluxbox?
[12:22] <christopher_> nailbiter, yeah
[12:22] <christopher_> btw is fluxbox worth usingm?
[12:22] <nailbiter> christopher_: Meeh. Run 'gksudo shares-admin' from a terminal then
[12:22] <teoti> christopher_, yes
[12:22] <aio> winxp bye bye bye :)
[12:22] <amphi> christopher_: openbox is more stable IME
[12:22] <teoti> aio, good :)
[12:23] <nailbiter> christopher_: Depends on your GUI philosophy, really.  ;-)  If you're a bells-and-whistles kind of guy, you're better off with KDE.  If you just want to get common and simple stuff done, GNOME
[12:23] <aio> it is the best thing i have never seen :) Ubuntu was great, but now it is a miracle
[12:23] <teoti> i till cant figure out this start up issue
[12:23] <nailbiter> aio: There's a drawback to that--it means you can get infected by virii, too
[12:23] <teoti> someone want to give it a go?
[12:24] <aio> ???? vir??
[12:24] <teoti> hey im trying to connect a server on amule but it keeps saying  i have a low-id which says im probably behind a firewall or router , im behind a router, im wondering if theres a way around this
[12:24] <aio> Ubuntu will be infected or just the exe in win?
[12:24] <nailbiter> aio: No, it'll just stuff up your WINE installation at worst.  But it's still annoying
[12:24] <christopher_> ok it opened up a share folders setting window
[12:25] <teoti> anyone know?
[12:25] <christopher_> amphi, openbox is more stable than flux?
[12:25] <aio> ok, then i tell you i wont see WinXp anymore sure :) Ubuntu runs great, it is wow, more quick, more all :) :)
[12:25] <Chousuke> aio: viruses aren't that much a problem with wine
[12:26] <aio> let try just one thing more...
[12:26] <christopher_> nailbiter, im a newbie but my goal is to do everything i did in windows with more stability and to learn
[12:26] <evan_> ok people -- I have a Shell up now thanks to nailbiter!.. anyone have advice now?
[12:26] <tatters_> anyone use xammp now any similer package to phpgroupware that gunna work with it?
[12:26] <XentoniX> this is inposible
[12:26] <XentoniX> (Possible litmus trojan))
[12:26] <XentoniX> wtf is this?
[12:26] <nailbiter> evan_: If you know the name of the kernel modules you suspect are hanging your system, try loading them one by one
[12:27] <beruic> Where do I get the original breezy splash screen?
[12:27] <evan_> nailbiter: i don't know specifically.. i just think it might be something to do with the sound
[12:27] <amphi> christopher_: that's my experience, but fluxbox may have improved
[12:27] <XentoniX> any one ? can you help me? i have virus on ubuntu
[12:27] <nailbiter> evan_: Use 'pcimodules' to list the modules which match your hardware
[12:27] <XentoniX> imposible
[12:27] <aio> yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:27] <nailbiter> evan_: You can load those by hand on by one with 'modprobe'
[12:27] <mzelem> anyone have any idea why kdm would restart everytime you try to log in?
[12:27] <aio> oh, sorry, it wokssss!
[12:28] <KoruptidPryde> why the heck does the atheros driver create two interfaces??
[12:28] <Witigonen> Hey all.  I'm trying to downgrade from Dapper to Breezy.  I've pinned all the packages to the Breezy build, but I'm getting an error that libc is trying to overwrite something that is also in the locales packages.  Can anyone help?
[12:28] <aio> serial key works register full ))))
[12:28] <amphi> XentoniX: what do you mean 'virus'? elf infector?
[12:28] <evan_> nailbiter: i think it might be hw_random... how would i blacklist it?
[12:28] <nailbiter> evan_: Edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:28] <amphi> Witigonen: you can use dpkg-divert to resolve that I believe
[12:28] <XentoniX> amphi i dont know .. i try to connect to some irc servers and i get mesage (Possible litmus trojan))
[12:29] <evan_> nailbiter: with.. nano?
[12:29] <christopher_> nailbiter, what about flux comparing to GNOME? which one is more for newbies and which one more for ppl wanting to learn to do more?
[12:29] <amphi> XentoniX: what is 'litmus trojan' ?
[12:29] <nailbiter> Witigonen: You can use '--force-overwrite' (and '--force-depends' perhaps) to work around that. But be careful ...
[12:29] <aio> well well well, it accepts registration :) all ok, the programs run like in win but in a better SO :) I love it all !! ;) and no need for antivirus to hang my pc down :)
[12:29] <beruic>  Where do I find the original breezy splash screen?
[12:29] <manty> noob question: How do I set e.g. firestarter to start on boot?
[12:29] <XentoniX> i think some virus :)
[12:29] <b1ind> are there any alternative servers to the ones from sources.list?
[12:29] <XentoniX> it is trojan .. ? :)
[12:29] <b1ind> I get <10kb/s :(
[12:29] <nailbiter> christopher_: GNOME is definitely oriented towards novices and newbies who just want to get stuff done. I'd say environments like Fluxbox and Openbox are for more advanced users who want the GUI to stay out of the way
[12:29] <IdleOne> XentoniX:  its not a virus it's a trojan
[12:30] <Witigonen> amphi, can you please elaborate?
[12:30] <amphi> XentoniX: never 'eard of it - ask google
[12:30] <nailbiter> evan_: Yes, you can use 'nano'
[12:30] <IdleOne> not sure what trojan though I never heard of it
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> After the release of Dapper, I'm thinking about becoming a stable one most of the disk, but a partition just for a development release installation person.  How large of a partition would I need for that?
[12:30] <evan_> nailbiter: blacklist doesn't exists.. make it?
[12:30] <Witigonen> nailbiter, in apt-get, or would this be a reconfiger sort of thing? (--force-overwrite isn't understood by apt-get)
[12:30] <beruic>  Where do I find the original breezy splash screen?
[12:30] <evan_> er.. nano doesnt exist
[12:30] <nailbiter> evan_: Yes. Add a line like 'blacklist hw_random'.
[12:30] <amphi> Witigonen: see man dpkg-divert - I've never had to use it, so I have nothing to add to the manpage
[12:31] <nailbiter> evan_: Basically, modprobe will slurp in all files in /etc/modprobe.d--so you can name it whatever you want
[12:31] <evan_> what editor is on ubuntu by default
[12:31] <nailbiter> evan_: 'vim' is in the standard Ubuntu installation
[12:32] <evan_> nailbiter: thanks
[12:32] <nailbiter> beruic: Which splash screen?  The GNOME splash you see when logging in?  That might be in 'ubuntu-artwork'
[12:32] <christopher_> nailbiter, my intentions is to be able to not need a GUI and to use the best, quickest, most stable way of using a computer system
[12:33] <beruic> nailbiter: I mean the original, default one...
[12:33] <amphi> christopher_: fluxbos is very light - if you don't want gui, alt-ctrl-f1 to switch to a VT ;)
[12:33] <aio> then, it works ok, the applications for win run in ubuntu. And they maintain their copy and paste capabilities. It is great. Do it, cause it works fine, fine, fine :)
[12:33] <b1ind> my ALT-CTL-F1 doesn't switch me to a vt.. any ideas?
[12:33] <christopher_> amphi, what does IME mean when you use it to refer to openbox?
[12:33] <nailbiter> beruic: There are several splashes--the boot splash, the GNOME splash and some other wallpaper bits
[12:33] <amphi> christopher_: 'in my experience'
[12:34] <eternaljoy> how come i never get any more messages about new upgrades?  yet I know there is a kernel upgrade etc, How can I upograde my system to latest ?
[12:34] <christopher_> amphi, VT?
[12:34] <christopher_> terminal?
[12:34] <eternaljoy> anyone know please?
[12:34] <amphi> christopher_: virtual terminal, text console
[12:34] <beruic> nailbiter: the Gnome-one is in my expierience the only one which is changeable...
[12:34] <christopher_> hehe dont want to do that
[12:34] <aio> system-administrator.upgrade?
[12:34] <christopher_> i wouldnt know hwo to get back to this 'light GUI'
[12:34] <IdleOne> eternaljoy:  sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:34] <nailbiter> eternaljoy: System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[12:34] <IdleOne> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:34] <amphi> christopher_: alt-f7 unless you've messed with /etc/inittab
[12:35] <christopher_> i can do that right now?
[12:35] <nailbiter> eternaljoy: You may have turned off the weekly/nightly update fetches
[12:35] <amphi> christopher_: X runs on the first unallocated VT
[12:35] <eternaljoy> yes but it says 0 upgrades  needed
[12:35] <christopher_> so control alt f1 for VT and then alt f7 to get back to here
[12:35] <eternaljoy> but it says 0 upgrades  needed!  Yet I know theres a new kenrel update
[12:35] <IdleOne> eternaljoy:  then o upgrades are needed :)
[12:35] <amphi> christopher_: yup
[12:35] <b1ind> amphi, I can't use my CTL-ALT-F1 to switch between vt's for some reason, any idea why not?
[12:35] <evan_> nailbiter: sorry.. how do you save a file with vim?
[12:35] <christopher_> ok lets see what its like
[12:35] <eternaljoy> IdleOne:  Yet I know theres a new kenrel update
[12:35] <IdleOne> eternaljoy:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:35] <nailbiter> beruic: I'm still not sure which splash you want to change. Did you mean the GDM theme instead?  The one which appears with the login/password field?
[12:36] <eternaljoy> IdleOne:  I am on the ubuntu email list and today it said new kernel upgrade needed
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> eternaljoy: As in an upgrade for your current kernel version or a newer kernel?
[12:36] <nailbiter> evan_: :wq
[12:36] <bimberi> eternaljoy: do you have the breezy-security repositories enabled?  They're the main source of updates
[12:36] <amphi> b1ind: that switches to VT1 - alt-ctrl-f2 for VT2, and so on - alt-ctrl-f7 will switch to VT7, where X is most likely lurking
[12:36] <eternaljoy> IdleOne: it says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:36] <christopher_> it brought me to the ubuntu prompt line to login?
[12:36] <beruic> nailbiter: No, not the GDM. The splash which comes after you login...
[12:36] <eternaljoy> bimberi: yes
[12:36] <amphi> christopher_: yeah, that's it
[12:36] <IdleOne> eternaljoy:  did you enable universe multiverse?
[12:36] <evan_> nailbiter: yeah but how do i get back to the little : prompt that use to be there?
[12:36] <b1ind> amphi, yeah i know.. but for a bit now, those kb combos do nothing
[12:36] <christopher_> do i log in?
[12:36] <nailbiter> beruic: Ah. That's /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-smooth.png
[12:36] <christopher_> or just type commands from there?
[12:36] <bimberi> eternaljoy: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[12:37] <nailbiter> evan_: Hit ESC to go back to command mode. Then you can use those ':' commands
[12:37] <b1ind> if i'm in a vt, it works fine, but from x, I cannot get back to the console short of killing x
[12:37] <b1ind> ...or stopping gdm
[12:37] <amphi> b1ind: how strange - your xorg.conf doesn't have the DontSwitchVT option on?
[12:37] <christopher_> amphi, also do i have to type  'gksudo shares-admin' everytime i want to share a folder/file?
[12:37] <b1ind> amphi, will check
[12:37] <amphi> christopher_: I have no idea
[12:37] <miles> Is there a quick way to fix sound problems in ubuntu?  I'm having problems on my IBM ThinkCentre
[12:37] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> b1ind: I've had issues with that because of video drivers.  You got fglrx?
[12:37] <nailbiter> christopher_: If you're running GNOME, you'd go to System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[12:38] <christopher_> nailbiter, FLUX user here
[12:38] <b1ind> tonyyarusso, I wish, can't get em to work
[12:38] <nailbiter> christopher_: But since you're the enterprising Fluxbox user, we assume you want to do things the expert way
[12:38] <bimberi> ubotu tell miles about sound
[12:38] <beruic> nailbiter: In my language: RIGTIGT MANGE TAK. I can't find any good ones anywhere...
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> b1ind: Heh, right.
[12:38] <christopher_> nailbiter, yes sir want to learn the whole programming world
[12:39] <aio> what does "IOPL not enabled" when trying to run excel from wine?
[12:39] <christopher_> learn how to build... which i dont totally understand the term yet.. learn to compile and maybe someday hopefully be able to contribute to the linux OS
[12:39] <nailbiter> christopher_: Then drop into #fluxbox. ;-)
[12:39] <christopher_> didnt know about that
[12:39] <eyedol59> i get an error message when i try to open the cfdisk, it says: "Bad logical partition 5: PArtition ends after end-of-disk"
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> aio: I don't know, but I am curious, why are you trying to run Excel?
[12:39] <b1ind> amphi, i do not have that line :(
[12:40] <eyedol59> how can i correct this?
[12:40] <b1ind> could very well be an issue w/ my video drivers
[12:40] <b1ind> they are an issue all unto themselves
[12:40] <amphi> b1ind: maybe
[12:40] <amphi> b1ind: ati?
[12:40] <aio> cause i have an mda archive and want to run it from ubuntu rather than to go to win to open it :)
[12:40] <b1ind> yes
[12:40] <JockeTF> aio: try openoffice.org2 calc ? :)
[12:40] <aio> mdb archive, i mean
[12:40] <nailbiter> aio: It means Wine is not allowing Excel to look directly at your hardware (it actually picks up the MAC address from your Ethernet card and embeds it in worksheets you create)
[12:40] <b1ind> worked fine in xorg 6.8 but now 7.0 gives me no love
[12:41] <b1ind> yeah i have an old one too! 9200
[12:41] <amphi> nailbiter: excel embeds your mac addr in spreadsheets? wtf?
[12:41] <b1ind> i havn't gotten around to trying the newest ati drivers though
[12:41] <christopher_> nailbiter, how do i connect to that?
[12:41] <nailbiter> amphi: Yup, it does
[12:41] <teoti> none of my programs under preferences>sessions>startup are starting on boot up
[12:41] <nailbiter> christopher_: Type '/j #fluxbox' into your IRC client
[12:42] <teoti> why not?
[12:42] <amphi> nailbiter: goddam, whoda thunk it? wtf for?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> teoti: What sort of programs?
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> teoti: You can also try having them running, log out, and specify to save the session, and then log in again using the last session option.
[12:43] <aio> oppenofice calc cant open it (mdb archive)
[12:43] <nailbiter> amphi: Given that most office computers have just one or two regular users, it's a pretty effective and cheap way of watermarking documents
[12:43] <b1ind> i can't even get to the ATI driver page :p
[12:43] <teoti> tonyyarusso, gmail notify and gDesklets and I leave them on and restart and hit save session they still dont boot up
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> aio: Maybe OOBase?  Don't know what mdb is.
[12:43] <rage__> Hey guys :)
[12:44] <IdleOne> hey rage__
[12:44] <manty> noob question: How do I set e.g. firestarter to start on boot?
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> teoti: gDesklets take a while to start for me, but they do.  I'll look around and see if I changed anything for that...
[12:44] <christopher_> where do you type that at?
[12:44] <rage__> Has anyone had a problem with pour performance using madwifi (pcmcia)
[12:44] <christopher_> into the text box for chatting?
[12:44] <aio> don know. they told it was an acces archive
[12:45] <IdleOne> christopher_:  yes
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> teoti: What's the line you have in there to start them?
[12:46] <aio> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. virtualdub runs :)))
[12:46] <jvai> hey every1, does hoary comes w/ disk imaging sw?, if i wanted to move this install to anothr hd, when i upgrade my box, instead of redoing everything over
[12:46] <christopher_> doesnt work
[12:46] <rage__> jvai, man dd
[12:46] <christopher_> but i think i need to know the server?
[12:46] <aio> ohhh, but no video compressors :(
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> aio: Isn't Access the database program, so you should be trying with Base rather than Calc?
[12:46] <aio> let see
[12:46] <jvai> man dd.. in the terminal?
[12:46] <IdleOne> wow ooo2 calc is Excel!
[12:46] <rage__> jvai, yup.
[12:47] <jvai> ty rage.. then i can burn that to cd/dvd
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> teoti: I used /usr/bin/gdesklets start , yours similar?
[12:47] <beerockxs> except for some features.
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: Well, minus being from Microsoft.  Same purpose.
[12:47] <amphi> and except for macro viruses (so far)
[12:48] <christopher_> nmd im there now
[12:48] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso:  minus it being from microsoft makes it even better :)
[12:48] <aio> in Base says... ASCII filter option... before opening
[12:48] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: As usual.
[12:48] <IdleOne> hehe
[12:48] <christopher_> how do you add it to your server list?
[12:48] <christopher_> i need to know a server name...
[12:48] <IdleOne> christopher_:  server name for what?
[12:49] <rage__> christopher_, what are you trying to do?
[12:49] <aio> it looks quite impossible in base the mdb
[12:49] <tonyyarusso> I think he might be trying to join #fluxbox, but I'm not sure...
[12:50] <VR_> how do i take a screenshot of only the active window?
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> VR_: Alt-PrntScrn does it for me.
[12:50] <VR_> tonyyarusso: thanks much
[12:50] <IdleOne> christopher_:  go to Xchat > Server List   Ubuntu Servers should be highlighted the click edit and add the #fluxbox to channels to join i.e. #ubuntu,#fluxbox
[12:50] <b1ind> anyone know why I wouldn't be getting direct rendering with the radeon driver and an ati 9200
[12:51] <b1ind> xorg's log says its getting enabled but glxinfo disagrees
[12:53] <rage__> sheesh, 15mb of compressed sources for xmame :o
[12:54] <christopher_> IdleOne, thanks
[12:54] <Witigonen> I'm getting this error when trying to downgrade: http://pastebin.com/556867   Can comebody please help me out?
[12:54] <bjornkri> re
[12:55] <peter__> where in ubuntu do i type commands?
[12:55] <rage__> peter__, the terminal
[12:55] <bjornkri> ok, before this happens again.. :P Is there a sort of task manager I can bring up if the computer seems to be hanging?
[12:55] <peter__> and where is that?
[12:55] <rage__> applications/accessories
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> After the release of Dapper, I'm thinking about becoming a stable on most of the disk, but a partition just for a development release installation person.  How large of a partition would I need for that?
[12:56] <mzuverink> i did a server install due to a problem with a video card, now i need to install x.org, what is the command to do so?
[12:56] <peter__> cant find it :-( im such a noob!
[12:56] <rage__> mzuverink, sudo apt-get install gnome
[12:56] <Eleaf> yay
[12:56] <Eleaf> lol
[12:56] <MacModder> anyone know how to boot ubuntu of the pcc iMac with isight???????
[12:57] <evan_> does ubuntu have any other CLI editor than vim as a default install?
[12:57] <mzuverink> rage__and what is the command to reconfigure the vdeo card?
[12:57] <rage__> peter__,
[12:57] <anna__> is there some trick to get printing to actually use just the black ink cartridge?
[12:57] <b1ind> evan_, nano i think comes default
[12:57] <rage__> type this in xchat /exec terminal
[12:57] <teoti> tonyyarusso, what do you mean? i went to /bin/gdesklets
[12:57] <rage__> err
[12:57] <rage__> type this in xchat /exec xterm
[12:57] <evan_> b1ind: i dont think it does.. command not found
[12:57] <rage__> sorry
[12:57] <anna__> everything I try to print is also trying to use my colour which is just about done and everything printed looks horrible
[12:57] <b1ind> evan_, :o
[12:58] <aio> and winzip32 runs too, just the exe and drag and drop archives into its window :)
[12:58] <anna__> i've selected b & w in the printer admin options
[12:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i have a question, i can't seem to get on-line with a router and ubuntu
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Uh, what do you mean "went to"?  And I think it's in /usr/bin, isn't it?
[12:58] <b1ind> evan_, what is wrong w/ vi?
[12:58] <teoti> tonyyarusso, yes its in usr/bin, so i used nautilus andfound the file?
[12:58] <mzuverink> rage__:what is the command to reconfigue x, i know its dpgk-reconfigure... do you know the rest?
[12:58] <rage__> mzuverink, read the xord docs
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> teoti: For...?
[12:58] <rage__> xorg
[12:59] <evan_> b1ind: i cant get it to save a file or exit at all
[12:59] <rage__> X -Configure
[12:59] <bjornkri> how do I mount a network drive?
[12:59] <b1ind> press ESC, then :wq
[12:59] <evan_> b1ind: hitting esc isnt bringing up the : prompot
[12:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i have a question, i can't seem to get on-line with a router and ubuntu
[12:59] <teoti> tonyyarusso, idunno i thought thats what u were telling me i had to do
[12:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell mzuverink about xorg
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> teoti: I mean in the Preferences > Sessions dialogue.
[12:59] <b1ind> evan_,  oh, then i'm outta my league :p
[12:59] <bjornkri> evan: you have to type : (I hope I'm not being obvious here)
[01:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !router
[01:00] <ubotu> router is probably a device used to connect multiple computers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[01:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i have a question, i can't seem to get on-line with a router and ubuntu
[01:00] <evan_> bjornkri: haha really? :-) nice thanks
[01:00] <rage__> evan_, is this with nano?
[01:00] <evan_> bjornkri answered my stupid question, lol
[01:00] <peter__> how do i install applications..like VLC?
[01:00] <b1ind> ahh, guess i didn't explain properly ;)
[01:00] <evan_> i wasnt typing :
[01:00] <teoti> tonyyarusso, my command that is under sessions is /usr/share/applications/gdesklets.desktop
[01:00] <rage__> lol
[01:00] <bjornkri> ;)
[01:01] <Hysty> CanYouHelpMePlz: can you ping your router?
[01:01] <rage__> peter__, check to see if there is a package for it is the first step
[01:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Hysty: im back on the switch now but 192.168.1.1 doesn't work
[01:01] <bjornkri> CanYouHelpMePlz, did you try going through System / Administration / Network?
[01:01] <scam> has anyone got counter strike source to work with 64 bit ubuntu
[01:01] <aio> and winamp runs too in wine, ok ok ok
[01:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> bjornkri: yea
[01:01] <rage__> sudo apt-cache search VLC
[01:01] <rage__> sudo apt-cache search vlc
[01:01] <bjornkri> And enabled the adapter?
[01:01] <rage__> something like that
[01:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> bjornkri: yea
[01:01] <b1ind> holy cow, the mirrors or whatever are soooo slow for me atm!
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Try changing it to '/usr/bin/gdesklets start'
[01:02] <Hysty> CanYouHelpMePlz: can you check if your network card is working another way?
[01:02] <rage__> blind, use a mirror in your country
[01:02] <aio> and winamp ecqualizer works in ubuntu like in win. it is impoooosible :) but is reeeeal
[01:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Hysty: i'm online now, with my switch instead of the router
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Or just throw start after that.  I don't have the file you said, so I'm not sure.
[01:03] <anna__> is there any way to force black and white printing with a colour printer?
[01:03] <teoti> tonyyarusso, so take start after that?
[01:03] <teoti> tonyyarusso, start off*
[01:03] <scam> has anyone got counter strike source to work with 64 bit ubuntu
[01:03] <Hysty> CanYouHelpMePlz: ah rightio
[01:03] <aio> bye win, byyyyeeeeee :)
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Put the start in.
[01:03] <rage__> dam, im going backwards. I came in here to get help with something
[01:03] <b1ind> is there a utility to disable/enable runlevel scripts?
[01:03] <teoti> tonyyarusso, okay ill be right back
[01:03] <b1ind> ...in ubuntu
[01:03] <bjornkri> Ok, I have a windows computer running with all my music and videos and such on it, but I want to be able to play them from Ubuntu (laptop). What should be my first steps? :\
[01:04] <Hysty> CanYouHelpMePlz: and you are in Ubuntu now?
[01:04] <evan_> in vim, im trying to do :wq /path/to/new/file
[01:04] <evan_> but it says it cant open file for writing
[01:04] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Hysty: yea
[01:04] <rage__> blind i think its rcconf
[01:04] <rage__> im new to ubuntu so i may be wrong
[01:04] <b1ind> evan_, did you run vi through sudo?
[01:04] <sorush20>  Pbb2
[01:04] <evan_> oh.. no :-)
[01:04] <evan_> heh
[01:04] <b1ind> rage__, me 2, i'll check it out
[01:05] <bjornkri> sudo vi, the cheap version of sudoku
[01:05] <bjornkri> *sigh*... that was bad
[01:05] <bdawg54345> helllo
[01:05] <bdawg54345> i need help :p
[01:05] <IdleOne> !help
[01:05] <bdawg54345> !help
[01:06] <evan_> sudo wont work... "unable to lookup (none) vias gethostbyname()
[01:06] <IdleOne> bdawg54345:  ask your question :)
[01:06] <mzuverink> The server install says the there is no candidate for install of gnome when i sudo apt-get install gnome, am i missing something somewhere, any help would be appreciated
[01:06] <bdawg54345> i would like to know if it is possible to install ubuntu on my external hd and boot from the external hd but i dont want to lose my stuff on the external hd
[01:07] <rewt_> tonyyarusso, it worked.
[01:07] <JockeTF> mzuverink: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:07] <Hysty> CanYouHelpMePlz: how is your switch connection onto the net?
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: Always good.
[01:07] <IdleOne> !dualboot
[01:07] <fangorious> where are there any dapper ISO images?
[01:07] <Hysty> CanYouHelpMePlz: connected
[01:07] <ubotu> hmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:07] <rewt_> tonyyarusso, thanks....so how exactly would i do my gmail notify?
[01:07] <b1ind> bdawg54345, there is a howto on the wiki i think to do that
[01:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Hysty: surboard modem >switch>pc's
[01:07] <bdawg54345> i dont wanna erase all my shit
[01:07] <bdawg54345>  beacause the external is fat 32
[01:07] <rage__> hehe, i managed to get my NintendoDS to access the internet thru linux! :)
[01:07] <b1ind> bdawg54345, you'll have to resize the partition
[01:08] <rage__> I can play mario kart now
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: I'm not sure, since I haven't used that.
[01:08] <rewt_> tonyyarusso, well damn
[01:08] <pm_> when i run a vpn client in a machine, i can't access the internet from it?
[01:08] <dockane> bdawg54345, imho thats a bad idea in general, since you always should make backups before messing with hard disks
[01:08] <aio> sos sos sos, does anybody know how to put a directory in the panel, click on it and not open a new window, but only appearing the archives in it like in win toolbar?
[01:09] <GnoNayme> what was the other command to use to install opera under ubuntu?>
[01:09] <IdleOne>  aio  sooner you stop trying to get linux to do things like windows the sooner you will be able to use linux to do what you want :)
[01:09] <evan_> i am root, and vim still wont write a new file
[01:09] <nickrud> aio, no, gnome doesn't but kde does (or did)
[01:09] <bdawg54345> resize it with what
[01:09] <rage__> evan use nano ;)
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> How large of a partition would I need to make a second installation to check out development releases?  (Not for general use though.)
[01:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> does anyone know why my (wired) router doesn't seem to work with ubuntu?
[01:10] <aio> may be true idleone :)
[01:10] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, I use 4gb partitions when I do that
[01:10] <dockane> has anybody got experience with printing from chm files (compiled html) ?
[01:10] <rewt_> i <3 techno
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Okay.  I could do it with a bit less though, right?
[01:10] <rage__> CanYouHelpMePlz, your ethernet interface doesnt have an IP
[01:10] <manty> GnoNayme: can opera be installed on 64-bit ubuntu?
[01:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> rage__: how do i fix that?
[01:11] <rewt_> some reason it says there are 3 people logged into my computer?
[01:11] <evan_> rage__: i would but it's not there.. i am in like some bare basic mode because ubuntu wont boot on my laptop so i am trying to blacklist hw_random
[01:11] <b1ind> CanYouHelpMePlz, do you know if your router is configured for DHCP?
[01:11] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, sure, 2gb should get you an install, I just like some elbow room
[01:11] <Hysty> tonyyarusso: 2-3Gb would prob be ok
[01:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> b1ind: it should be at factory defaults, 192.168.1.1 does nothing
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Okay.
[01:11] <aio> well, clicking on a win shorcut does not staart the application, just clicking on the exe, but it works fine, fine, fine i Ubuntu
[01:11] <rewt_> one in terminals  tty2, :0 and pts/0
[01:11] <rewt_> what's that mean?
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> Hysty: Thanks.
[01:11] <dockane> i am looking for  a way to print more than _one_ page ... xhcm always stops after the current page
[01:11] <b1ind> CanYouHelpMePlz, is it wireless or wired?
[01:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> b1ind: wired
[01:11] <saad3000> hello,is there a new kernel for Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:12] <newbuntie> rewt: that would be you, me, but who's the third guy???
[01:12] <newbuntie> rewt: jk
[01:12] <instabin> how do i get file-roller to open rar files
[01:12] <rewt_> heh
[01:12] <b1ind> CanYouHelpMePlz, maybe a dumb question, but have you tried .0.1?
[01:12] <IdleOne> newbuntie:  lmao
[01:12] <rewt_> well how do i kill them?
[01:12] <rewt_> like their connection
[01:12] <rewt_> not them literally :-P
[01:12] <CanYouHelpMePlz> b1ind: no i havent, this router is 192.168.1.1
[01:12] <b1ind> ok, have you tried running dhclient manually?
[01:12] <CanYouHelpMePlz> no
[01:13] <rage__> rewt_,  what are you trying to do?
[01:13] <b1ind> sudo dhclient eth0
[01:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> im gonna hook router up again...
[01:13] <rage__> disconnect thos terminals?
[01:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> brb
[01:13] <GnoNayme> dpkg, find dependencies?
[01:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> b1ind: should my network card be enabled or disabled when i do that
[01:13] <rewt_> rage__, my computer says there are 3 users logged in. one at tty2 one at :0 and another at pts/0. how do i make it just me logged in....
[01:13] <b1ind> well enabled, i would hope.. im not sure exactly what your problem is
[01:14] <instabin> anyone help with rar files?
[01:14] <Hysty> CanYouHelpMePlz: shouldnt really matter
[01:14] <evan_> hey. can someone help me blacklist hw_random?
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> !rar
[01:14] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:14] <rage__> tty2 will be alt-ctrl-f2
[01:14] <saad3000> hello,is there a new kernel for Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:14] <instabin> I tryed that it didnt work
[01:14] <Engla> rewt_: the "who" command should give you a list. Make sure it's only your username in that list
[01:14] <rage__> :0 will be X
[01:15] <rage__> pts/0 will be xterm
[01:15] <Hysty> saad3000: what kernel are you using now?
[01:15] <IdleOne> saad3000:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is there is one it will install
[01:15] <TomaszD> what is the difference between ubuntu cd and ubuntu dvd?
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> saad3000: 2.6.12-10, newer than -9 from the install.
[01:15] <TomaszD> what is on ubuntu dvd?
[01:15] <myk> hi all. i have a stupid HDD question... lets say i put 2 HDDs on 1 cable, and each HDD has a Cable Select jumper, which one is the primary? the one on the end of the cable, or the one in the middle? i ask because i have a slave HD that i'd like to use with ubuntu, and the ubuntu HD is currently at the end of the cable (although i have no jumpers) and im having trouble when booting up with both HDDs right now...
[01:15] <saad3000> IdleOne, If i could use internet on ubuntu
[01:15] <rewt_> rage__, what is tty2?
[01:16] <ccc_> myk: the one at the end is master iirc
[01:16] <bimberi> rewt_: pts/0 will be an X based terminal session, (see what happens to 'who' if you open more terminals)
[01:16] <IdleOne> saad3000:  then your primary concern is to get it online
[01:16] <rewt_> rage__, i ran who and it is my user name in all 3
[01:16] <saad3000> guys am trying to see if there is upgrade of the kernel that would fix the network problems that didn't allow me to use Internet on ubuntu
[01:16] <WezlFawlty> myk jumpers supercede cable position also
[01:16] <rage__> ty2 is a virtual terminal
[01:16] <rage__> (looks like dos)
[01:16] <rewt_> rage__,  im not in that though
[01:17] <rage__> alt-ctrl-f2
[01:17] <rage__> You must be :P
[01:17] <myk> meh. well, with no jumpers, i get errors on booting up. brb, gonna try with jumpers
[01:17] <oklinux> is sis ac 97 sound card compatible with ubuntu ?
[01:17] <rage__> alt-f7 will get you back to X
[01:17] <nickrud> instabin, you might want to look at unrar-nonfree in multivers
[01:17] <rewt_> rage__, i dont see it anywhere
[01:17] <b1ind> anyone know what that crazy ajax msn/yahoo/aim website is?
[01:18] <b1ind> nm, found it
[01:18] <rage__> get its pid and kill it then ;)
[01:18] <rewt_> blind what is it i need it too
[01:18] <b1ind> www.meebo.com
[01:18] <crab> Is it ok to ask for newbie help in this channel?
[01:18] <IdleOne> crab YES :)
[01:18] <nickrud> crab, that's why this channel exists
[01:19] <crab> groovy.  I just installed Ubuntu on a compaq presario 1800T.  It works beautifully, but for one thing: my PS/2 mouse doesn't work, but the touchpad works fine.
[01:19] <rewt_> crab...no we are 1337 only ;)
[01:19] <rewt_> crab u install the drivers for it?
[01:19] <rage__> lol
[01:19] <nickrud> rewt_, #debian :)
[01:20] <rewt_> nick lmao
[01:20] <crab> The mouse was working fine when I had Win2K installed on this machine about four hours ago :)
[01:20] <IdleOne> !mice
[01:20] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[01:20] <crab> it's just a 2 button no-name mouse... it didn't come with drivers
[01:20] <rage__> crab, You will have to confugre Xorg to work with that mouse.
[01:20] <rewt_> ah yea
[01:20] <rage__> configure!
[01:20] <crab> ok, how do I do that rage?
[01:20] <n4cht> ok, on a fresh hoary install, how does one enable mp3 handling for rhythmbox?
[01:21] <rage__> X -Configure may work
[01:21] <bimberi> ubotu tell n4cht about mp3
[01:21] <nickrud> n4cht, sudo apt-get install libgstreamer0.8-mad
[01:21] <n4cht> thanks.
[01:21] <crab> ok, so I click on system... ?
[01:21] <crab> lol... I've never used Linux before, pardon my ignorance
[01:21] <rewt_> crab no lol
[01:21] <rewt_> you must do it in a terminal
[01:21] <n4cht> E: Couldn't find package libgstreamer0.8-mad
[01:21] <n4cht> dangit.
[01:22] <Artan1s> Got a new hard drive and now im re-installing ubuntu... W00t
[01:22] <crab> ok, I have a terminal open
[01:22] <b1ind> can anyone recommend a decent download manager (not wget) to replace firefox's?
[01:22] <rewt_> okay
[01:22] <rewt_> now
[01:22] <bimberi> n4cht: you will need to add the universe repository ...
[01:22] <nickrud> n4cht, you need to go through the page http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it'll walk you through that
[01:22] <bimberi> ubotu tell n4cht about universe
[01:22] <Unity> what should i install to be able to run kde? not kubuntu-desktop it brings too much extra crap with it
[01:22] <dekela> what is the best window manager? xfce, kde or gnome
[01:23] <rewt_> type in
[01:23] <rewt_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:23] <adub> everytime i plug in my usb flash drive it changes names like hda1 hdb1 hdc1  etc    i want  to have it be hda1 everytime i plug it in and out
[01:23] <rewt_> leave everything how it is until you get to configre 2 button mouse
[01:23] <nickrud> Unity, you can get the official kde as distributed by debian with sudo apt-get install kde
[01:23] <amphi> b1ind: prozilla perhaps?
[01:23] <anna__> when one modifies a setting in system>admin>printing, where does this actually get stored?
[01:23] <b1ind> amphi, thanks, i'll check it out
[01:23] <nickrud> dekela, yes
[01:24] <anna__> or is there another front end to modify these values?
[01:24] <SkyLynx> ** is anyone having a problem with the universe repo?
[01:24] <anna__> for ink type it will not let me select black with my printer
[01:24] <crab> rage I tried the command "X -Configure" but it says I'm not authorized.  I tried to su root, but I don't have my root password
[01:24] <bimberi> Unity: 'kdebase' is another possibility
[01:24] <rewt_> crab
[01:24] <rewt_> do what i said
[01:24] <rewt_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <amphi> anna__: just go with magenta ;)
[01:24] <bjornkri> ack, could someone remind me where to find w32codecs?
[01:24] <IdleOne> crab:  your root password is the password you use
[01:24] <crab> ok rewt will do
[01:24] <midwinter> !w32codecs
[01:24] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:24] <Xenguy> Hi - have there been any reports of Firefox problems after following the 'FirefoxNewVersion' HOWTO on the Ubu wiki ?
[01:24] <Unity> nickrud: haha...kde package brings even more crap in
[01:25] <Artan1s> _jason: hey man
[01:25] <bjornkri> aah, thanks
[01:25] <rewt_> in that it will have an option to configure a 2 button mouse
[01:25] <anna__> amphi, do you know whats proggie kde uses to muck with cups?
[01:25] <Artan1s> _jason: How are you?
[01:25] <SkyLynx> ** is anyone having a problem with the universe repo?
[01:25] <anna__> i want to see if kde offers me the full options
[01:25] <oklinux>  any one having problem with sis ac97 sound card ?
[01:25] <nickrud> Unity, well, it's kde. It's a load
[01:25] <amphi> anna__: no, 'fraid not
[01:25] <nickrud> Unity, try just installing the applications you want. You can fill in the blanks as you need them
[01:26] <bimberi> Unity: kdebase does look good - have a look at its description (apt-cache show kdebase)
[01:26] <amphi> anna__: I thouht you could configure cups via a browser (I've not used it)
[01:26] <anna__> maybe i shouldn't say cups, i mean gimpprint
[01:26] <rewt_> crab, find it?
[01:26] <bimberi> Unity: "the minimal package
[01:26] <bimberi>  set necessary to run KDE as a desktop environment"
[01:26] <bimberi> blah that newline
[01:27] <Artan1s> When I connect my cable internet for the first time, is there any commands I have to type in or should it connect right away if the drivers are there?
[01:27] <RouterTroubles> hmm, i still can't get my router to work
[01:27] <nickrud> anna__, kde's print manager is a lot better than gnome's. (disclaimer: I use gnome exclusively)
[01:27] <RouterTroubles> can having networking equipment close to an subwoofer be a problem?
[01:27] <b1ind> hello again adub. you said you had an idea for me earlier regarding getting DRI working
[01:27] <crab> yes rewt, thank you.  I'm going through the configuration now
[01:27] <anna__> nickrud, do you it's name so i can run it from the cli without switching to kde
[01:27] <rewt_> :) glad i could "help"
[01:27] <SkyLynx> Could someone try "sudo apt-get update" and tell me if it works?
[01:27] <nickrud> kdeprint?
[01:28] <anna__> nope
[01:28] <anna__> there's kdeprintfax
[01:28] <RouterTroubles> can having networking equipment close to an subwoofer be a problem?
[01:28] <abac> apt-get install kde-desktop error:kubuntu-desktop: Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[01:28] <adub> b1ind sorry i was away
[01:28] <anna__> ah i guess i have to log out to muck with kde
[01:28] <nickrud> anna__, it's been a while since I used kde, and even back then it was better. I can't remember the name
[01:28] <adub> b1ind
[01:28] <b1ind> adub, np, i had class ;p
[01:28] <anna__> i wonder if i set it right in kde will those values carry over when printing in gnome
[01:29] <dijungal> hello folks
[01:29] <adub> b1ind here i will help again
[01:29] <crab> ok rewt I finished the configuration, but it's still not working.  Do I need to reboot?
[01:29] <IdleOne> SkyLynx:  works fine
[01:29] <dijungal> i just install ubuntu 5.10
[01:29] <b1ind> adub, cool
[01:29] <JockeTF> good to hear that dijungal!!
[01:29] <adub> i will tell you step by step what i didi
[01:29] <JockeTF> :D
[01:29] <rewt_> dijungal, how do you like it?
[01:29] <b1ind> swell
[01:29] <Artan1s> connect irc.blitzed.org
[01:29] <SkyLynx> Idle: Why would it get stuck for me as soon as it hits the archive.ubuntu... repo?
[01:29] <nickrud> anna__, the files that hold the printer defs are /etc/lpoptions, and ~/.lpoptions. The manual at localhost:631 can explain how to set those up
[01:30] <dijungal> how do i remote desktop into a windows machine..?
[01:30] <dijungal> i cannot find gnome-rdp
[01:30] <adub> are you using fglrx
[01:30] <IdleOne> SkyLynx:  I have no clue :/
[01:30] <RouterTroubles> can having networking equipment close to an subwoofer be a problem?
[01:30] <b1ind> adub, no.. it corrupts my screen
[01:30] <abac> hi, aptget install kubuntu.desktop err:kubuntu-desktop: Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[01:30] <bimberi> dijungal: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[01:30] <rewt_> system preferences
[01:30] <dijungal> ok got it thanks
[01:30] <IdleOne> RouterTroubles:  all the vibrating might not me too good
[01:31] <b1ind> adub, I'm working on downloading the newest ati driver, but my connection is quite slow atm
[01:31] <dijungal> thanks bimberi
[01:31] <HystGone> RouterTroubles: possibly
[01:31] <bimberi> dijungal: yw :)
[01:31] <RouterTroubles> IdleOne: i can't seem to get my routeer to work no matter what
[01:31] <Artan1s> When I connect my cable internet for the first time, is there any commands I have to type in or should it connect right away if the drivers are there?
[01:31] <nickrud> RouterTroubles, rfi is rfi. Try moving something, that'll either confirm or eliminate, or be inconclusive :)
[01:31] <b1ind> normally the radeon driver gave me direct rendering w/o any problems though
[01:31] <SkyLynx> Idle: Thanks
[01:31] <dijungal> bemberi: is there a way to run it from the run command like in kde "rdp:/<servername>" ?
[01:31] <RouterTroubles> shouldn't internet with ubuntu and router be plug and play?
[01:32] <IdleOne> dijungal:  Places > Connect to server
[01:32] <adub> b1ind i wrote out a small how to on this
[01:33] <b1ind> :o
[01:33] <bimberi> dijungal: 'tsclient'
[01:33] <adub> accept the dcc transfer
[01:33] <rage__> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[01:33] <b1ind> hmm, i might be unable to do dcc transfers here
[01:33] <bjornkri> I've got a REALLY avanced question. ;)
[01:34] <adub> send me a query msg
[01:34] <bjornkri> Is it possible to program the windows key to do something? :P
[01:34] <RouterTroubles> bjornkri: yes
[01:34] <dijungal> bimberi: thanks
[01:34] <amphi> bjornkri: yes
[01:34] <rage__> bjornkri, yes
[01:34] <Hysty> bjornkri: wheres the 'any' key?
[01:34] <rage__> lol
[01:34] <RouterTroubles> bjornkri: mine opens firefox
[01:34] <bjornkri> hehe
[01:34] <amphi> bjornkri: use xev to find the keysym
[01:34] <rage__> RouterTroubles, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07.html
[01:34] <rage__> have a read thru there
[01:34] <RouterTroubles> ty
[01:35] <nickrud> my windows key is <super>, works very well with metacity
[01:35] <adub> b1ind you there man
[01:35] <bimberi> !winkey
[01:35] <b1ind> yes
[01:35] <bimberi> !+winkey
[01:35] <ubotu> To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[01:35] <bjornkri> My keyboard's kinda crappy, it's incomplete. Should be icelandic, but a key that should be to the left of z is missing. And it's quite important, has pipe more-than and less-than on it
[01:35] <b1ind> sent you a pm (i think)
[01:35] <Hysty> should setup the 'Windows' key to umm delete Windows
[01:35] <bimberi> dijungal: yw :)
[01:35] <nickrud> oh my god, that is an ugly factoid
[01:36] <bimberi> nickrud: agreed!
[01:36] <b1ind> though i'm not registered on freenode and i think i saw something about needing to be registered to send private messages
[01:36] <bjornkri> I'll try xev, thanks :)
[01:36] <b1ind> adub, perhaps you could paste it to www.pastebin.com?
[01:36] <adub> ahh that makes sense
[01:36] <adub> lol
[01:36] <xcel> anyone wanna help a noob? :P
[01:36] <xcel> im trying to install bmp
[01:36] <cannibal> newb
[01:36] <cannibal> lol
[01:37] <xcel> used apt-get but i says it cant find it
[01:37] <Hysty> boob
[01:37] <xcel> please? :)
[01:37] <ubuntu> Hey I have a setup where I have two ubuntu computers. The main one with all the progrmas and this one whihc is basically a diskless terminal running off a livecd. Is there a way to make use of the other computer without disturbing whoever is on it?
[01:37] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8721        <--- b1ind
[01:38] <Hysty> xcel: have you the relevant repository enabled
[01:38] <failure> someone who is in charge of security.ubuntu.com?
[01:38] <adub> that should do it  download the    ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run    from ati's site i think they even have a newer version now
[01:38] <b1ind> adub, thanks i'll check it out
[01:38] <Unity> ubotu tell xcel about easysource
[01:38] <b1ind> yeah, i'm getting the newer atm
[01:39] <failure> or someone of the ubuntu security team?
[01:39] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu, yes, this is common to concieve that two users using the same computer is problematic because with windows it is... if they are networked you can setup a user account for the second computer and then ssh -X into the main computer thrut he livecd
[01:39] <dijungal> em.... i cannot change the root password
[01:39] <dijungal> and i just realise i can't remember setting the root password during install
[01:39] <Dasnipa`> tell dijungal about root
[01:39] <Unity> dijungal: do you know about sudo ?
[01:39] <rage__> see ya guys. Good luck and all of that. ;D
[01:39] <dijungal> ues
[01:39] <bimberi> xcel: note that the package is called beep-media-player
[01:40] <Dasnipa`> !tell dijungal about root
[01:40] <ubuntu> Ok Dasnipa can you elaborate on the ssh -x part?
[01:40] <xcel> bimberi, im too nobb :8
[01:40] <nickrud> failure, ask on #ubuntu-devel
[01:40] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu, all you need is the main computer's ip and then its ssh -X (capital to forward the x server) username@ip
[01:41] <evan_> for some reason my file system is totally readonly
[01:41] <Unity> what command can i issue to startx with kde in it, if my default desktop in gnome?
[01:41] <failure> nickrud: ok, thanks :)
[01:41] <ubuntu> ssh -X someguy@234.23.54.12 for random example would be hoiw I do it?
[01:41] <failure> nickrud: i didn't know it
[01:41] <nickrud> Unity, you can change that under sessions in the login screen; or,
[01:42] <nickrud> failure, I figured :)
[01:42] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu, yes, that looks right
[01:42] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[01:42] <bobopopomo> anyone can help me with slowdowns when my sata-harddisc is accessed?
[01:42] <Psi-Jack> I'm pondering the idea of not re-install Kubuntu, but .. Literally just copying the current install to my other, primary, HDD instead. Anyone have any ideas on how to do that correctly? There's no specific ACLs or xattr's involved on the filesystems, as of yet.
[01:42] <Artan1s> When I connect my cable internet for the first time, is there any commands I have to type in or should it connect right away if the drivers are there?
[01:42] <amphi> Unity: you can try doing xinit and then typing start-kde in the xterm
[01:42] <nickrud> Unity, edit ~/.xsession add the correct command to start kde there, and use Xsession from the login screen
[01:42] <failure> bye
[01:43] <bobopopomo> didn't see it until i installed Xgl and compiz, and it now seems to be an obvious problem
[01:43] <xcel> hey when i use; sudo apt-get install bmp i says that i cant find it :S pls help :)
[01:43] <choke> where does udev stand in the ubuntu distro tree
[01:43] <nickrud> bobopopomo, I can't help with your problem, but, did you use debs for Xgl & compiz?
[01:43] <OgMaciel> anybody from NJ/NY/MA going to Linux World Expo in Boston this year?
[01:43] <choke> like which version have it running by default
[01:43] <bobopopomo> nickrud, yes
[01:43] <dijungal> the sudo thing SUCKS!!
[01:44] <rewt_> why does my volume icon in my panel keep dissappearing???
[01:44] <choke> OgMaciel: when is it
[01:44] <rewt_> dijungal, you can turn on root
[01:44] <evan_> can someone help me get ubuntu working on my laptop? it wont boot untill i add something to the hotplug blacklist, so i added "init=/bin/bash" to the boot thing... and it booted to the command prompt but the whole system is just readonly
[01:44] <dijungal> u can..
[01:44] <Dasnipa`> dijungal, you can set a root password thru sudo then you never have to care about it again
[01:44] <dijungal> nice..
[01:44] <bobopopomo> nickrud, you know a place where i could get help for it?
[01:44] <nickrud> bobopopomo, who's? (I like trying that stuff out know and then)
[01:44] <rewt_> dijungal, yes
[01:44] <dijungal> ok
[01:44] <dijungal> thanx
[01:44] <OgMaciel> choke, April 3 - 6
[01:44] <rewt_> dijungal, do you know how?
[01:44] <rewt_> lol
[01:44] <bobopopomo> nickrud, ubuntu dapper universe repository
[01:44] <amphi> evan_: mount / -o remount,rw to make it rw
[01:44] <Artan1s> When I connect my cable internet for the first time, is there any commands I have to type in or should it connect right away if the drivers are there?
[01:45] <rewt_> should connect?
[01:45] <evan_> amphi: thanks very much, i'll try that
[01:45] <amphi> Artan1s: for me, I just ran dhclient eth0
[01:45] <nickrud> bobopopomo, I'd ask, um, well, I'm not about to point you at a debian list, but maybe looking at the bug reports in debian?
[01:45] <Unity> amphi: thx a lot man, this is exactly what i was looking for
[01:45] <Unity> amphi: for over a month now
[01:45] <rewt_> check system>administation>networking
[01:45] <Artan1s> amphi: Just type dhclient eth0?
[01:45] <amphi> Unity: what?
[01:45] <rewt_> and make sure you have ethernate enabled
[01:45] <amphi> Artan1s: yup, well sudo dhclient eth0
[01:45] <Unity> amphi: started kde in a new X server
[01:45] <Artan1s> amphi: Thanks
[01:46] <rewt_> why does my volume icon in my panel keep dissappearing???
[01:46] <nickrud> bobopopomo, oh, that sucks. I've gotta try for a decent dapper install ;(
[01:46] <amphi> Unity: oh, the xinit thing, yeah, it's handy
[01:46] <OgMaciel> Seveas, ping
[01:46] <dijungal> now i need to get my wireless working
[01:46] <Unity> amphi: now, do you know if it's safe to run gnome and kde simultaneously?
[01:46] <Artan1s> rewt_: Thanks
[01:46] <rewt_> Artan1s, no problem :)
[01:46] <Artan1s> rewt_: almost done installing it for the first time
[01:46] <adub> is there a way i can mount my usb flash drive as sda1 everytime
[01:46] <Smeggy> Anyone running Ubuntu on a Powermac g5?
[01:47] <amphi> Unity: no reason why not that I can think of (I run neither ;)
[01:47] <rewt_> Artan1s, it's fun...i just installed mine like 3 weeks ago
[01:47] <bobopopomo> nickrud, dapper is pretty stable at the moment, to be precise i'm using it for months now, without having really big problems
[01:47] <nickrud> Unity, the only issue I ever had was sound, and with gstreamer, that one should be gone in most cases
[01:47] <Artan1s> rewt_: nice
[01:47] <newbuntie> bobopopmo: what's different about dapper?
[01:48] <nickrud> bobopopomo, I'd run it now and then, and then it blew up :) A month more I think for me.
[01:48] <nickrud> newbuntie, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/255
[01:48] <IdleOne> !ping
[01:48] <ubotu> pong
[01:49] <IdleOne> thought so
[01:49] <rewt_> why does my volume icon in my panel keep dissappearing??? >.<
[01:49] <X-GueSt> Any one running ubuntu on a laptop with Intel GM910 with 128mb's shared graphic card?
[01:50] <X-GueSt> can it be installed some drivers to it?
[01:50] <dirty> hey hey
[01:50] <dijungal> anyone tried seting up wireless on ubuntu
[01:50] <dijungal> built in wireless
[01:50] <dijungal> emachines 5312
[01:50] <rewt_> amarok is good for one thing...techno stations :-D
[01:51] <rewt_> dijungle you need drivers
[01:51] <MachineScrew> rewt_, streamtuner has more
[01:51] <b1ind> does amarok need qt?
[01:51] <rewt_> MachineScrew, i like these ones
[01:51] <dijungal> hmmm...
[01:51] <rewt_> blind i donthave it
[01:51] <MachineScrew> rewt_, it has those to
[01:51] <ryman> ahh I found the tutorial video for Dual booting Ubuntu and XP http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[01:51] <nickrud> dijungal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/EmachinesM5312 , no promises
[01:52] <Shish> I've just booted recently updated dapper to find /dev/null and friends marked root:root 660, 'sup?
[01:52] <MachineScrew> rewt_, they are just shoutcast streams
[01:52] <rewt_> MachineScrew, oh well lol im tired of installing stuff :-P im trying to get my colume icon fixed now in my panel...it keeps dissapearing
[01:52] <abac> hi, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop err:kubuntu-desktop: Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[01:52] <MachineScrew> rewt_, try rantradio industrial
[01:52] <rewt_> MachineScrew, where is that
[01:53] <adub> does anyone know how have usb drives mount as the same sda1 everytime is it plugged in and out of the computer and when it is removed it is auto unmount
[01:53] <nickrud> abac, you have something wrong in your /etc/sources.list most likely. Post it to a pastebin, please
[01:53] <nickrud> abac, /etc/apt/sources.list I mean
[01:53] <b1ind> adub, that would be in the udev config
[01:53] <MachineScrew> rewt_, www.rantradio.com
[01:53] <b1ind> adub, don't remember how to do any of that stuff anymore
[01:53] <abac> what is pastebin?
[01:54] <nickrud> abac, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:54] <abac> thanks
[01:54] <nomopofomo> guys -_- ubuntu is driving me crazy... my previous install of linux was a debian net install and i'm having lots of problems figuring out how to do stuff as root... can't i just BECOME root? or is there no such account?
[01:54] <nomopofomo> i can't even get apache 2 running -_-
[01:55] <MarcN> nomopofomo: you don't need to run as root.  See sudo
[01:55] <nickrud> nomopofomo, the account exists, but sudo is the default admin technique; http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:55] <nomopofomo> :(
[01:55] <rewt_> arg
[01:55] <nickrud> nomopofomo, sudo -i
[01:55] <nomopofomo> i guess the installer generates a random PW?
[01:55] <rewt_> damn volume icon is going to pi55 meh off
[01:55] <nickrud> nomasteryoda, use your user password
[01:56] <MarcN> nomopofomo: I was doubtful myself, but after a few months I don't miss it.  sudo somecommand or sudo -i for those rare cases
[01:56] <nickrud> nomopofomo, user your user password
[01:56] <nomopofomo> nomasteryoda eh? ;)
[01:56] <nickrud> nomopofomo, heh
[01:57] <nickrud> nomopofomo, I do resemble that remark, thoughy
[01:57] <dtanker> I have aquestion
[01:57] <nomopofomo> how do i check processes running in gnome environment?
[01:57] <nickrud> nomopofomo, either top, or gnome-system-monitor in a terminal
[01:58] <nickrud> nomopofomo, also, gnome-session-properties
[01:58] <evan_> is snd-hda-intel important? because i had to blacklist it to get my laptop to boot
[01:58] <hypnox> when someone sudo's to the root user, where does the bash_history end up?
[01:59] <nomopofomo> cool... when i mounted my ntfs drive, why couldn't my music player open the file?
[01:59] <nickrud> evan_, yes, it's a not completely supported sound chip. There's a bug listed for it under alsa
[01:59] <fangorious> are there any mirrors of the dapper flight3 iso?
[01:59] <nickrud> nomopofomo, because ntfs drives are, by default, only readable by root
[01:59] <evan_> nickrud: aw, so that probably means my sound isn't going to work. :-(
[01:59] <nickrud> fangorious, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/
[01:59] <nomopofomo> apache isn't showing up as a running process but when i try to start it, it SAYS it's already running?
[02:00] <nomopofomo> nickrud thanks i'll go research
[02:00] <damnhi1> Do I overwrite my old kernel image if I do cd /usr/src/linux && make bzImage install modules modules_install ?
[02:00] <nickrud> evan_, I'd search for that bug, there are some workarounds that have worked for some people
[02:00] <evan_> nickrud: ok thank you
[02:00] <nickrud> evan_, I'm not familiar with malone, or I'd suggest a search term
[02:01] <nickrud> nomopofomo, a sec, there's a link somewhere for that
[02:01] <WezlFawlty> nickrud alsa? malone? eh, can you give me a link?
[02:01] <WezlFawlty> thanks
[02:01] <luisito> hello
[02:01] <fangorious> nickrud: right, i meant is there anything mirroring that, i'm only getting 130 KB/sec off that
[02:02] <nickrud> !tell nomopofomo about ntfs
[02:02] <nomopofomo> k
[02:02] <b1ind> lol i'm getting 3KB/s atm :)
[02:02] <nomopofomo> :O
[02:02] <b1ind> i mean :(
[02:02] <nickrud> fangorious, ah, no, no idea
[02:02] <nomopofomo> i was hoping you were talking about my apache problem :)
[02:03] <nickrud> WezlFawlty, alsa is the software that enables your sound hardware; and malone is the bug tracker for ubuntu
[02:03] <luisito> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:03] <luisito> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:04] <nickrud> WezlFawlty, evan_, https://launchpad.net/malone
[02:04] <luisito> I'm getting this error when compiling:
[02:04] <luisito> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:04] <luisito> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:04] <luisito> sorry for the paste
[02:04] <luisito> anyone knows what's wrong?
[02:05] <nomopofomo> why does apache say it's running but i can't see it in PS?
[02:06] <nomopofomo> oh never mind -_-
[02:06] <nomopofomo> there are like 10 instances running
[02:06] <nickrud> luisito, you need to install the development headers for kde; kdebase-dev , or maybe kde-dev
[02:06] <scam> nomopofomo, ps -aux
[02:06] <nickrud> nomopofomo, those are most likely threads, not instances
[02:07] <luisito> thank you nickrud
[02:07] <nomopofomo> :O
[02:07] <nomopofomo> ok
[02:14] <nomopofomo> would it be smart to put apachectl into path?
[02:14] <nomopofomo> or could that be dangerous?
[02:14] <nomopofomo> i'm the only one using computer
[02:15] <MarcN> nomopofomo: sudo apachectl works fine
[02:15] <MarcN> nomopofomo: no need to mess with $PATH
[02:16] <mrg_z> someone know if a XEN 3.0.1 package exists for ubuntu?
[02:16] <mrg_z> breezy.
[02:16] <selinium> nomopofomo, ps -C apache2 maybe?
[02:16] <nomopofomo> hold on... let me see what that does :O
[02:17] <nomopofomo> apache binaries are not in path :O
[02:17] <MarcN> mrg_z: dapper has xen-tools (but I've not tried it.)
[02:17] <nomopofomo> that means i need to navigate to that folder ;O
[02:17] <MarcN> nomopofomo: start a console window and type:   sudo apachectl (or apache2ctl if you are using that)
[02:17] <nomopofomo> neither command found
[02:18] <nomopofomo> marcn i just built apache 2.2 so maybe that's why?
[02:18] <nomopofomo> it's not a package
[02:19] <selinium> nomopofomo, What are you trying to do?
[02:19] <nomopofomo> alot of stuff ^^
[02:19] <MarcN> nomopofomo: why compiling it? Use the package.
[02:19] <nomopofomo> only 2.0.54 is out :O
[02:19] <nomopofomo> i want to play with newest version
[02:19] <mordof> hey bur[n] er, guess what!
[02:19] <nomopofomo> ...
[02:20] <nomopofomo> 2.2 is stable :O
[02:20] <MarcN> nomopofomo: if you build from sources, you need to pay attention to where the binaries are laid down.  Some source kits use /opt, some /usr/local/, etc
[02:20] <dijungal> hey guys
[02:20] <nomopofomo> is there a way to find out where the binaries are put?
[02:20] <dijungal> i cannot play .wma or .avi in ubuntu..
[02:20] <nomopofomo> besides locate?
[02:20] <MarcN> nomopofomo: do you have a burning need for apache 2.2?
[02:20] <dijungal> what's wrong..?
[02:20] <selinium> nomopofomo,    sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop     (or start or restart)
[02:20] <mordof> bur[n] er: my vid card drivers are screwed again even after a re-format! i tried to reinstall and bam, im screwed
[02:20] <dijungal> totem does not play them
[02:20] <nomopofomo> no... not really ^^ i just wanted to play with new features... that's all
[02:20] <nomopofomo> i normally develop on windows but i wanted to learn linux... i started off with a net install of debian but it's very frustrating
[02:20] <MarcN> nomopofomo: watch what happens when you do 'make install'     locate won't show you files newer than last night.  Use find
[02:21] <nomopofomo> updatedb?
[02:21] <MarcN> nomopofomo: it would be better if you learn on a stable platform until you are comfortable under linux, then venture out to building from source.  Lot less headaches
[02:21] <bieberbruder> german???
[02:21] <nickrud> dijungal, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , and install totem-xine
[02:21] <selinium> nomopofomo, yes sudo updatadb
[02:22] <nickrud> dijungal, if they won't play after that, well, they are non-free after all
[02:22] <IdleOne> !ge
[02:22] <ubotu> IdleOne: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:22] <MarcN> nomopofomo: if you mention my name, I see it better.
[02:22] <IdleOne> whats the abrev for german?
[02:22] <EricNeon> morning all
[02:22] <selinium> nomopofomo, I would, as MarcN said, run a standard LAMP to see where it puts everything first.
[02:22] <nickrud> IdleOne, de
[02:22] <IdleOne> ahh
[02:22] <selinium> ubotu tell nomopofomo about lamp
[02:22] <MarcN> IdleOne: de?
[02:23] <nomopofomo> MarcN, i see that now ^^
[02:23] <Mordof> yay! im entirely screwed and have to re-format for the 4th time!!!
[02:23] <IdleOne> de is abreviation for german
[02:23] <Toma-> nomopofomo, to find out where binarys are, run "echo $PATH"
[02:23] <IdleOne> !de
[02:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:23] <MarcN> nomopofomo:    which somecommand    is also a useful tool
[02:23] <bieberbruder> what is the adress of the german-ubuntu irc ??
[02:23] <Toma-> Mordof, what on earth are you doing to have to install4 times? :(
[02:23] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-de
[02:24] <Mordof> can anyone here confidently say they can get my nvidia graphics card working for me??? im having droubles with drivers!!
[02:24] <nickrud> Mordof, my 5200 worked just fine
[02:24] <Mordof> Toma-: video card drivers keep screwing me over
[02:24] <Toma-> Mordof, what card?
[02:24] <Mordof> nvidia 6800 xt
[02:24] !lilo:*! Woohoo, he shoots, he scores! (the game spammer again)
[02:24] <Mordof> i installed the drivers, it installed perfectly, and now my X fails when i reboot
[02:24] <Mordof> happens EVERY time
[02:24] <Mordof> ive tried to format and re-do it twice now
[02:25] <Toma-> Mordof, brb. just getting my toast then ill give you a hand
[02:25] <frogzo1> !xorg
[02:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:25] !lilo:*! I wish someone could tell this person to please not spam random channels 8)
[02:25] <nickrud> Mordof, that's not a reinstall offence
[02:25] <Mordof> frogzo1: does not work
[02:25] <Mordof> nickrud: nobody could help me to get it working
[02:25] <MarcN> Mordof: you can always enter into grub on boot and add a S to the end of the boot parameters.  Starts in single user mode with no X11 started
[02:25] <selinium> Mordof, Firstly don't re-install! there are plenty of people who can help when you dont have X up.
[02:25] <nickrud> Mordof, if you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log top a pastebin maybe ...
[02:25] <nickrud> *to a
[02:25] <selinium> Mordof: Open a terminal and type irssi
[02:26] <Mordof> selinium: im in terminal currently
[02:26] <Mordof> having trouble seeing though cause of color schemes, heh
[02:26] <myk> i hate hard drives
[02:26] <MarcN> myk: okay.  send them to me.  I like them. ;-)
[02:26] <selinium> Ok cool. I thought you were reinstalling because you lost X
[02:26] <Mordof> selinium: k, gonna pastebin those
[02:26] <Toma-> Mordof, can you paste into pastebin?
[02:26] <Mordof> Toma-: working on it
[02:27] <amonkey> is there a way to get audio and video to stay in sync in the flash firefox plugin?
[02:27] <nickrud> MarcN, I have som 10,000 rpm 9.1 ibm scuzzies, if you want some
[02:27] <Toma-> Mordof, ok. if you need a hand doing it in terminal, theres an easy solution
[02:27] <Mordof> selinium: i know how to get into X after i lose it, i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.. and i can get into X, though if i reboot, i have to do it again
[02:27] <myk> MarcN: suuuUUUuuure... cost me $135 and it's a bully in my pc. neither windows nor ubuntu will boot with it as a slave...
[02:27] <Mordof> selinium: but i have absolutely no video card functions, no 3d, no video or anything
[02:27] <Mordof> Toma-: im currently in X (limited)
[02:27] <MarcN> nickrud: nah, moving away from scsi.
[02:27] <Earthen> can someone tell me how to edit the startup ip for eth0 from command line
[02:27] <Toma-> Mordof, ok good
[02:27] <Andy5201987> hi
[02:27] <chris_> i am having some trouble with getting dhcp offers from my router using wpa_supplicant (Thinkpad T43) -- anyone mind helping?
[02:27] <Andy5201987> my name is andy
[02:28] <nickrud> MarcN, well, I was told to throw them around :)
[02:28] <pld_> any ideas on why my date & time is not getting updated automatically?
[02:28] <zebraFusion> how can I extract rars with Ubuntu
[02:28] <Mordof> Toma-: it just sucks, i just bought my vid card ($210, and i cant even run screensavers with it
[02:28] <selinium> Mordof, I am going to have to dash, 01:30 in Engalnd. Paste the files for Toma- to see :) Good luck
[02:28] <pld_> or any thoughts on where to make that happen?
[02:28] <MarcN> myk: do you have grub in the primary's MBR point to the 2nd disk?
[02:28] <Mordof> selinium: k cya
[02:28] <Andy5201987> I'd like to have the latest version of kopete messenger.
[02:28] <nickrud> zebraFusion, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[02:28] <zebraFusion> nickrud: Is it nonfree
[02:29] <WezlFawlty> earthen iirc ipconfig   try man ipconfig
[02:29] <nickrud> zebraFusion, yes, it's in multiverse
[02:29] <selinium> zebraFusion, You are supposed to pay for it after 30 days.
[02:29] <frogzo1> zebraFusion: it's proprietary - the code isn't open source
[02:29] <myk> MarcN: no clue. i have a switch that powers either my win HDD or my ubuntu HDD and the other drive should be the slave. i have to disconnect the other HDD to get either OS to work. tho... it may be a jumper issue. i hate jumpers. hoppers are way better
[02:30] <chris_> could someone help me with my wpasupplicant
[02:30] <Earthen> WezlFawlty I tried with Ipconfig but the ip I put there changes everytime i reboot, in fact the eth0 doesn't even startup at boot time
[02:30] <myk> bleh. it'll wait til later. wife says "time to go"
[02:30] <MarcN> myk: sounds like hw config issue.  do you have enough power?
[02:30] <myk> enough power, it's just jumpers ;) i'll figure it out later. thx tho
[02:30] <WezlFawlty> myk jumpers are dependant on hard drive mgfr
[02:30] <nickrud> zebraFusion, but, it costs nothing to use, if that's what you mean
[02:31] <Mordof> http://pastebin.com/556995 (xorg.conf), http://pastebin.com/556996 Xorg.conf   (for Toma-)
[02:31] <Earthen> is there a way you rerun the network setup wizard that you get during install
[02:31] <Toma-> thanks
[02:31] <Mordof> er, first is xorg.conf, next is xorg.log
[02:31] <Mordof> or w/e
[02:32] <rage__> Does ubuntu come with any ethernet bridging software
[02:32] <rage__> ?
[02:32] <chris_> =\
[02:32] <Angel_Dex> Hello all
[02:32] <rage__> Yes it does. thanks ;)
[02:32] <rage__> Hi Angel_Dex
[02:32] <Toma-> ummm Mordof this is kinda useless :D sorry, but you need to load the nvidia driver, THEN start X and copy the log to say /home... like this...
[02:32] <Angel_Dex> I switched my HD Up and put it into another computer And now it says X will not start how do i reconfigure it?
[02:33] <Mordof> Toma-: i cant get into x with the nvidia driver
[02:33] <Mordof> Toma-: dpkg-reconfigure changes the driver used, thats the only way i get into X
[02:33] <nickrud> Mordof, but, the errors from the nvidia driver failure is what matters
[02:33] <Mordof> nickrud: i dont know how to pastebin in cli
[02:34] <frogzo1> rage__: -> bridge-utils
[02:34] <nickrud> Mordof, after X fails, cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/xorg.nvidia.log, and post that from nv
[02:34] <Toma-> after editing xorg.conf and swapping nv for nvidia, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (let it crash) then run "sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /home/WHATEVERYOURUSERNAMEIS/Xorg.log"
[02:34] <tatters_> Y is it I get a feeling running a stable working distro of linux is a matter of juggling packages
[02:34] <WiFiTux> anyone can help me install mplayer or so?
[02:34] <nickrud> WiFiTux, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallationHowto
[02:34] <tatters_> didnt win 98 call that dll hell?
[02:35] <Mordof> Toma-: ok.. ill just run nvidia-xconfig i think is the file
[02:35] <Brunellus> does anyone use a palm zire 21 on ubuntu?
[02:35] <Toma-> Mordof, ok...
[02:35] <Mordof> Toma-: nvidia automatically sets it up the way it should be.. hmm
[02:36] <Mordof> Toma-: brb while i attempt to restart X
[02:36] <WiFiTux> nickrud: one thing I can't do Is to open Synaptic. Can I enable muti universe fro the command line?
[02:36] <X-GueSt> Any one with a laptop with Intel GM910 128mb's shared graphic card or something realy alike here?
[02:36] <X-GueSt> can I get some drivers to play some games with my graphica card on ubuntu ? :x
[02:36] <WiFiTux> nickrud: I do have deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[02:36] <nickrud> WiFiTux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto
[02:36] <Angel_Dex> buck
[02:37] <Toma-> X-GueSt, can you find out what type of chip it uses?
[02:37] <Jason_> i am trying to install ubuntu on an iBook 300Mhz
[02:37] <Angel_Dex> roar
[02:37] <Jason_> it is able to boot the 5.10 install cd
[02:37] <X-GueSt> Toma-, how can I find that?
[02:37] <nickrud> WiFiTux, but, making sure multiverse exists on any line that has universe in it works
[02:37] <tatters_> when is linux gunna migrate from DP hell
[02:37] <Toma-> X-GueSt, google perhaps?
[02:37] <X-GueSt> hmm
[02:37] <X-GueSt> ok
[02:37] <nickrud> tatters_, dp hell?
[02:37] <Toma-> tatters_, DP?
[02:37] <Jason_> it recognizes all of the hardware on my iBook
[02:38] <Jason_> next...it says something about a file system
[02:38] <tatters_> ok sry PD hell
[02:38] <nomopofomo> what's all this about "this file is not an audio stream" when i try to play my mp3 files?
[02:38] <Jason_> and then i see MANY errors
[02:38] <tatters_> package dependencies
[02:38] <frogzo1> !jdoom
[02:38] <Jason_> and it says there was a kernel panic
[02:38] <Jason_> does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[02:39] <nickrud> tatters_, apt-get, or aptitude, or synaptic, and no user brain-farts on unofficial repos equals no pd hell
[02:39] <tatters_> I install one thing then another wants to remove it therfore breaking the original
[02:39] <binarykungfu> does anyone know what [g,d,rlh]   is?
[02:39] <Toma-> tatters_, itll migrate once people decide that downloading a 50mb package for an mp3 player comes into fashion...
[02:39] <X-GueSt> Toma-, SONY Vaio VGN-FS215E, Celeron-M 370 (1.5GHz), 512MB
[02:39] <X-GueSt> 60GB, DVDRW/Dual Layer, WLAN, Intel 915GM, WXGA (1280x800), X-Black LCD, Windows XP Home
[02:39] <X-GueSt> dunno if it is possiible to find it
[02:39] <X-GueSt> at least easly
[02:39] <X-GueSt> :x
[02:40] <tatters_> well a default install of ubuntu only give 1 repos not even security update is included
[02:40] <Frogzo1> !tell X-GueSt about enter
[02:40] <nickrud> tatters_, it's designed for people without internet access as the default
[02:40] <tatters_> am i to assume there is no reason to update my security
[02:40] <WiFiTux> nickrud: I should emove universe and let universe multiverse?
[02:40] <adub> how can i tell the firmware version of my orinoco gold card
[02:40] <Mordof> k 1 sec while i paste the new logs and conf files i copied
[02:41] <Toma-> Mordof, super! :D~
[02:41] <nickrud> WiFiTux, append multiverse to any line that has universe, and be sure the # is missing from the beginning of the line
[02:41] <nomopofomo> i am getting a "This file is not an audiostream" error in music player
[02:41] <phreak97> can anyone help me out with downloadin debian?
[02:41] <tatters_> but yet the VM ware image of ubuntu gives 5 sources of updates
[02:41] <wastrel> hello
[02:41] <WiFiTux> nickrud: ok, cooll/ thanks
[02:41] <phreak97> there are 14 torrents labeled 1-14 and i dont know which to get
[02:41] <Mordof> Toma-, http://pastebin.com/557004 (xorg.conf), http://pastebin.com/557002 (xorg.0.log)  both running on the nvidia driver
[02:41] <Toma-> tatters_, well, thats horrible.
[02:41] <phreak97> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/bt-cd/
[02:41] <Toma-> good stuff Mordof :)
[02:42] <Mordof> the xorg.log shows that it finds the nvidia vid card, but then for some reason loses it, and then unloads the drivers
[02:42] <tatters_> major diff between the vmware distro and actuall install is a horrible i agree
[02:42] <MarcN> Brunellus: I have a zire 22 that syncs with evolution/jpilot/etc
[02:43] <Toma-> tatters_, someone should do something about it.
[02:43] <Toma-> tatters_, since its open source.... file a bug! :D~
[02:43] <tatters_> yah but who pray tell
[02:43] <Mordof> Toma-, the Xorg driver version also says 0.7, i have no idea why, i installed the linux header files for my kernel, and have the right gcc version... and yet its still screwing up
[02:43] <Brunellus> MarcN:  did it require any special configuration?
[02:43] <Toma-> you have the powah.
[02:43] <nomopofomo> do i need to install some sort of mp3 library to allow music player to play my mp3 files off of my ntfs partition?
[02:43] <wastrel> MarcN:  you use gnome-pilot?  it's been horrible for me.  i use jpilot exclusively
[02:43] <tatters_> file a bug that mean a life of RTFM
[02:43] <Toma-> Mordof, 1 moment plz
[02:44] <Brunellus> nomopofomo, you need to mount your ntfs partition and install the audio codecs
[02:44] <Toma-> tatters_, well, looks like it will go un-noticed forever :( you've let down the open source community :*(
[02:44] <MarcN> Brunellus: my is a USB connection.   I need to restart gnome-pilot a few seconds after I connect the device.
[02:44] <nomopofomo> wow -_- ok
[02:44] <Brunellus> nomopofomo, consult the RestrictedFormats wikipage
[02:44] <nomopofomo> libmpeg i bet
[02:44] <tatters_> what if the distro is a bug?
[02:44] <wastrel> what bug?
[02:44] <tatters_> how do I address that?
[02:44] <Mordof> Toma-, k
[02:44] <Mordof> ill brb for a sec while you look it over
[02:44] <nickrud> tatters_, with your feet
[02:44] <MarcN> wastrel: it isn't too bad these days.  still messes up contacts from time to time.  Embedded commas in names get it confused.
[02:44] <dan_> hey how do i get rid of ubuntu
[02:45] <Brunellus> MarcN:  I'm curious--can you write text files on the palm and then transfer them to the ubuntu box when it syncs?  and what format are they in, and where are they stored?
[02:45] <dan_> like delete its partitions
[02:45] <tatters_> lol no I got a large plank in case of emergencies
[02:45] <WezlFawlty> fdisk, zerofill, install windows
[02:45] <MarcN> Brunellus: I purchased iSilo for the palm to read text.  There is a linux tool that converts txt/html to a pdb which i then sync to the palm.
[02:45] <nickrud> tatters_ file a bug that mean a life of RTFM lmao
[02:45] <Madraykin> I have a game I want to play (GTA 3) how woudl I install it in ubuntu?
[02:46] <dan_> zerofill?
[02:46] <MarcN> Brunellus: there are a couple opensource text readers for the palm, but I've used isilo for years.
[02:46] <Adri2000> Madraykin: look on cedega database to see if it's compatible
[02:46] <WezlFawlty> dan_ fills the harddrive with 1 and 0
[02:46] <Brunellus> MarcN: I'm interested in generating text files on the palm for later use on the ubuntu machine--is this feasible?
[02:46] <zebraFusion> is there a program to zip files?
[02:46] <zebraFusion> or a terminal command?
[02:46] <tatters_> seriously running ubuntu and packages is like juggling
[02:46] <WezlFawlty> dan_ harddrive mgfr has it on their support site
[02:46] <Toma-> Mordof, what did you say your card was?
[02:46] <wastrel> Brunellus:  the pilot-link tools can be used to shuttle memos around pretty easily.
[02:46] <dan_> i'm trying to install dsl in place of this
[02:46] <Brunellus> zebraFusion, yes, use tar, or use the Archive-roller
[02:46] <nickrud> dan_, just reformat the ubuntu partitions
[02:46] <wastrel> Brunellus:  install-memo for example installs a text file as a memo
[02:47] <MarcN> Brunellus: for short text, use the memo.  those can be pulled from the pilot simply.
[02:47] <nickrud> dan_, then install over the ubuntu partitions
[02:47] <dan_> it says access denied
[02:47] <Madraykin> !cedega
[02:47] <ubotu> I guess cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[02:47] <Brunellus> MarcN, do you sync with evolution?  and where do memos/textfiles end up when I sync them from the palm?
[02:47] <Adri2000> Madraykin: good news for you http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=2762
[02:47] <Madraykin> w00t
[02:47] <wastrel> i don't think evo handles memo files
[02:48] <cablop> hello anybody
[02:48] <Madraykin> Adri2000, thanks =)
[02:48] <nickrud> dan_, I think finding a dsl channel would probably help with dsl
[02:48] <cablop> somebody knows how to scandisk in ubuntu?
[02:48] <dijungal> where can i get some good backgrounds
[02:48] <MarcN> Brunellus: yes I do.  The memos end up in evolution's Memo.  I'm using ubuntu/dapper with evo 2.5.91, so you may not have it yet.
[02:48] <hybrid> nyone here tried LFS?
[02:48] <cablop> i need to check a ext3 partition
[02:48] <Adri2000> cablop: maybe you mlean fsck?
[02:48] <dijungal> i'm feddup with the default ubuntu background
[02:48] <hybrid> worng room
[02:48] <nickrud> dijungal, art.gnome.org
[02:48] <hybrid> soory
[02:48] <dijungal> thanx
[02:48] <MarcN> dijungal: google
[02:48] <Madraykin> OK, so if the game is compatiably, with software I install in order for it to play?
[02:48] <nickrud> dijungal, or any decent picture
[02:48] <Mordof> Toma-, oh, sorry. nvidia 6800 xt
[02:48] <zebraFusion> what's the syntax using tar to zip a folder?
[02:48] <Ainvar> Madraykin make sure you are not running the 2.6.15-15 kernel
[02:48] <cablop> try deviantart
[02:48] <MarcN> dijungal: or flickr's various background groups.
[02:48] <HystStudy> dijungal: install a windows one
[02:49] <Ainvar> use the 2.6.14
[02:49] <Adri2000> Madraykin: you just need cedega
[02:49] <Toma-> Mordof, an XT?
[02:49] <Madraykin> Hmm I see
[02:49] <cablop> fsck
[02:49] <Toma-> you sure?
[02:49] <cablop> maybe
[02:49] <tatters_> ok I want to install xammp AKA lamp / phpgroupware  / acidlab and webmin on same box  what do I get load of errors
[02:49] <Mordof> Toma-, yes
[02:49] <Madraykin> !cedega
[02:49] <ubotu> cedega is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[02:49] <Brunellus> MarcN:  I'm running breezy with evolution 2.4.1.  I'm guessing memo isn't there.  where else would palm-made text files be placed after a sync?
[02:49] <zebraFusion> what's the syntax using tar to zip a folder?
[02:49] <cablop> can i check the / partition with fsck
[02:49] <Mordof> Toma-, is that a problem?
[02:49] <Ainvar> cedega also has a time demo version to make sure it runs decent on your system
[02:49] <Adri2000> cablop: fsck.ext3
[02:49] <WezlFawlty> zebraFusion man tar
[02:49] <Toma-> Mordof, well, look at this list of supported cards.... http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
[02:50] <Toma-> Mordof, now that makes me a little confused.
[02:50] <MarcN> Brunellus: if evo doesn't support it yet, it won't be synced.  Look at man pilot-install (or such) and it's install-memo.
[02:50] <Madraykin> so is cegeda free?
[02:50] <WiFiTux> no
[02:50] <zebraFusion> WezlFawlty... You could have just told me the syntax with the same time it took to write that. But whatever.
[02:50] <Ainvar> no
[02:50] <wastrel> MarcN:  gnome-pilot must syn memo.pdb
[02:50] <Adri2000> Madraykin: it's open source but not gratis if you want a precompiled package
[02:50] <ryman> I have windows xp right now and I want to dual booting with ubuntu. I've been trying to resize my HD by Partition Magic but it said "Cannot lock drive"
[02:50] <wastrel> sync, even
[02:50] <Adri2000> so you must compile the cvs
[02:50] <Brunellus> MarcN, so it is not possible to sync pilot text files to ubuntu breezy?
[02:50] <Aartanis> Ubuntu was the easiest internet setup ive ever done
[02:50] <Ainvar> unless you compile it from cvs
[02:50] <nickrud> Mordof, a stupid question maybe, but do you have the restricted modules for your kernel installed?
[02:50] <Mordof> Toma-, if i dont update my kernel it works fine, the xt is a newer series release..
[02:50] <WezlFawlty> zebraFusion, no i couldnt have
[02:50] <ryman> Is there any other way for me to resize my partition?
[02:50] <Mordof> nickrud, what do you mean
[02:51] <MarcN> Brunellus: it is possible.  Just not pretty gui to edit memos.
[02:51] <wastrel> Brunellus:  i'm guessing gnome-pilot must at least backup MemoDB.pdb
[02:51] <Toma-> Mordof, oic. so youre using the nvidia drivers? not the ubuntu-nvidia drivers?
[02:51] <nickrud> Mordof, for example, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on 386
[02:51] <tatters_> webmin refers to invisable/ not used since 1999 packages  (Hostsentry)  phpgroupware wont run on apache2 conflict and webmin does regognise xampp mysql server
[02:51] <cablop> Adri2000, thanks, you know if i can run it over my current system partition? how can ai run it at bootup time?
[02:51] <dan_> how do i just delete all of ubuntu
[02:51] <wastrel> Brunellus:  you can use the command line pilot-link tools to manage memos
[02:52] <tatters_> all in all its more than a dll a dll hell
[02:52] <nickrud> Mordof, line 309 of your Xorg.0.log: #
[02:52] <nickrud> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure
[02:52] <Adri2000> cablop: take a live cd
[02:52] <tatters_> its pdh
[02:52] <Madraykin> So do I need to install cegada in order to play or can I just install wine?
[02:52] <MarcN> Brunellus: see http://www.pilot-link.org
[02:52] <tatters_> package dependency hell
[02:52] <Mordof> Toma-, no im using nvidia drivers specifically
[02:52] <Mordof> nickrud, no im not
[02:52] <Adri2000> Madraykin: if gta3 is supported by wine it's ok, look on google
[02:52] <Toma-> Mordof, ahh ha. we have clashing drivers.
[02:53] <IdleOne>  !wine
[02:53] <Mordof> nickrud, the nvidia drivers are fine, the stupid thing!!! GRRRRRRRRR. if i install my nvidia drivers BEFORE my kernel is updated, everything works fine and continues to work fine in the updated kernel
[02:53] <Mordof> Toma-, you found the problem!?!?
[02:53] <nickrud> Mordof, you need that. the nvidia-glx-config script does not check that the kernel modules are installed, and will change your xorg.conf willy nilly
[02:53] <Madraykin> !wine
[02:53] <tatters_> I try installl mysql-server oh no theres another mysql server running
[02:53] <Toma-> Mordof, yes
[02:53] <Madraykin> !wine
[02:53] <MarcN> Brunellus: the linux to pilot connection via command line has been around for years and years.  the evolution connection is newer.  Also check out jpilot which is pretty nice standalone.  be sure gnome-pilot is not running or paused before running jpilot.
[02:53] <nickrud> two drivers!
[02:53] <Mordof> Toma-, YES! you're amazing
[02:53] <Mordof> nickrud, i dont get what you mean
[02:53] <BigDaddy> I think I have had an epiphany today
[02:54] <BigDaddy> Ubuntu hates me
[02:54] <rage__> ubuntu loves me!
[02:54] <tatters_> xammp is runnig mysql but nothing else recognises this fact
[02:54] <Aartanis> Ubuntu loves me
[02:54] <Brunellus> MarcN:  so I guess it's possible to sync, say, contacts to the palm with evo, shut down gnome-pilot, and pilot-link for the textfiles?
[02:54] <Psi-Jack> Does Ubuntu have support for Reiser4 built-in, but just not available during installation?
[02:54] <Toma-> Mordof, can you plz run "ls /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.12-10-386/nvidia/" for me?
[02:54] <Mordof> Toma-, in a msg to you?
[02:54] <BigDaddy> So far, I have only got one thing to work that I wanted. and it doesn't work right
[02:54] <Aartanis> what is the command to get the updates for ubuntu?
[02:54] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  i have reiser modules on my system... so i assume it's in the default kernel
[02:54] <Unity> how can i see what is the dpi on the current display?
[02:54] <tatters_> So my Q is when is linux gunna grow up and move away from DPH
[02:54] <Toma-> Mordof, well, is there anything?
[02:54] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  ah reiser4 - not sure
[02:54] <Kyral> Aartanis: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:55] <Adri2000> Aartanis: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:55] <Adri2000> lol
[02:55] <Aartanis> ty
[02:55] <Ainvar> DPH?
[02:55] <Mordof> Toma-, yeah, a bunch of files
[02:55] <Toma-> tatters_, are you by chance, a troll?
[02:55] <rage__> setting up ubuntu as an AP is pretty easy ;)
[02:55] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Wow. Heh. I'm about to copy my Kubuntu installation from my testing HDD to my primary, instead of re-installing,, and noticed mkfs.reiser4.
[02:55] <Toma-> Mordof, ok, we have clashing files :)
[02:55] <BigDaddy> AP?
[02:55] <Mordof> Toma-, i dont remember downloading those... maybe they got downloaded in my initial apt updates
[02:55] <cablop> i have a question
[02:55] <CryoTox> brb
[02:55] <rage__> I've noticed using madwifi in ad-hoc mode is really unstable
[02:55] <rage__> BigDaddy, accesspoint
[02:55] <tatters_> no toma someone who just is frustrated by this
[02:55] <cablop> i have installed my system today
[02:55] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone here had any luck getting m4p's to play in ubuntu, those are music files bought from the iTunes store. Does SharpMusique play them?
[02:55] <rage__> for wireless networking
[02:55] <BigDaddy> oh
[02:56] <chris_> rage__: have you been able to get wpa supplicant to work with your madwifi?
[02:56] <Mordof> Toma-, ok, so how do we solve the clashing of files? (im sorta new to linux if you cant tell)
[02:56] <chris_> mine looks like it completes and authenticates but i get no IP from DHCP
[02:56] <Toma-> Mordof, 1 moment plz
[02:56] <wastrel> Unity:  run xwininfo and click on your desktop background
[02:56] <Mordof> k
[02:56] <Psi-Jack> Okay, seems to only have the mkfs for reiser4, but not the kernel support.
[02:56] <wastrel> Unity:  that will give you the dimensions of the root window
[02:56] <rage__> chris_, I havnt tried.
[02:56] <Mordof> brb, washroom
[02:56] <tatters_> I went through this in 2000 I assumed linux would be more advaced in this regard I was mistaken
[02:56] <nickrud> Unity, xdpyinfo | grep resolution
[02:56] <chris_> =[, anyone else have any luck with madwifi and wpasupplicant
[02:57] <rage__> I would just flag wpa and use secure tunneling
[02:57] <BigDaddy> The things that I want, nay-need is an internet connection that starts at boot. It will not do that no matter how many times I tell it to. Windows partitions. Why is it so dang hard to have a distro that just automatically does it without me having to? I can't even find them in Ubuntu
[02:57] <rage__> wee, i can play mariokartDS online now ;)
[02:57] <Unity> nickrud, wastrel: thx
[02:57] <CryoTox> What are those things that start with R and you need them for programs?
[02:57] <navarone> wastrel where do results of xwininfo show up?
[02:57] <BigDaddy> And video drivers. WTF! I can't even boot into GNOME after following the guide online
[02:57] <nickrud> CryoTox, Reasons?
[02:57] <wastrel> navarone:  on stdout i believe
[02:58] <seq> does anybody know what package contains dbus-send on breezy?
[02:58] <Mordof> Toma-, back. still waiting (not rushing you just letting you know)
[02:58] <BigDaddy> so back I come crawling into XP
[02:58] <CryoTox> nickrud: Nah, it's something else
[02:58] <nickrud> seq, dpkg -S `which dbus-send`
[02:58] <crimsun> !info dbus
[02:58] <cablop> I have a question: I just reinstalled my system today, it was working but now it begun working bad. Fisrst i use to write sudo gedit and sudo nautilus from console and they works so good, sometimes i launch a new session using Applications->System Tools->New logon screen, but now, i can't launch any gtk+gnome application using sudo, and i cannot launch a new logon screen, and i cannot switch to another user session when system is blocked... what's the pro
[02:58] <cablop> blem in my ubuntu?
[02:58] <ubotu> dbus: (simple interprocess messaging system), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.36.2-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 275 kB, Installed size: 600 kB
[02:58] <tatters_> I can only equate my experiance to that of muslims and christians regarding OS and closed source
[02:58] <nickrud> bye, tatters
[02:59] <seq> nickrud, that would help if I had dbus-send installed. I just wanted to confirm it was dbus-1-utils, before I install it
[02:59] <Toma-> Mordof, ok, everytime you update the kernel, youll have to re-build your drivers, if youre going to use the nvidia ones...
[02:59] <BigDaddy> I want to like Linux sooo bad. I thought Ubuntu would finally be the answer to it too after all I have heard about it
[02:59] <nickrud> seq, you can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <tatters_> closed source has a god whereas open source has many daeties
[02:59] <cablop> yuhu? could any body help me?
[02:59] <tatters_> or however u spell it
[03:00] <seq> nickrud, thanks
[03:00] <tatters_> therefore there is no single voice in open source
[03:00] <chris_> bigdaddy: you want an auto internet connection with ethernet or wireless?
[03:00] <Unity> tatters_: dieties
[03:00] <Toma-> Mordof, follow this guide EXACTLY. Skip down to Method 2 and follow = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia
[03:00] <tatters_> which leads to much confusion and DPH
[03:00] <BigDaddy> chris - right now I would be happy to even boot into GNOME
[03:00] <Unity> tatters_: actually deities
[03:01] <wastrel> BigDaddy:  networking should be pretty easy - unless wifi :] 
[03:01] <tatters_> lol one looks like diet
[03:01] <Unity> tatters_: that spelling is very counter-intuitive
[03:01] <tatters_> its not dieters I am against
[03:01] <BigDaddy> my x server is f@#ked and I get a DOS type prompt filling up the whole screen
[03:01] <wastrel> BigDaddy:  that is your console :]   learn to respect it, if not love it
[03:01] <Unity> BigDaddy: startx
[03:01] <Mordof> Toma-, thats fine as long as rebuilding my drivers worked, i followed exactly what the nvidia installation told me to do for re-building them
[03:01] <Toma-> tatters_, are you even here for help?
[03:01] <BigDaddy> I can connect to the internet, I just have to do the pppoeconf
[03:01] <tatters_> wel u get my drift
[03:01] <BigDaddy> ever single time
[03:01] <wastrel> BigDaddy:  ahh dialup
[03:01] <Toma-> Mordof, with the gcc=3.4 and so on?
[03:01] <cablop> I cant start any graphical application using another user, could you help me?
[03:01] <tatters_> yah I am always up for help
[03:01] <chris_> ewww dialup
[03:02] <chris_> sry no help from me :P
[03:02] <BigDaddy> no, ADSL with username and password
[03:02] <Mordof> Toma-, i typed "export CC=gcc-3.4"
[03:02] <mshade> that's not dial up, that's DSL
[03:02] <wastrel> right right pppoe
[03:02] <wastrel> i had that once
[03:02] <mshade> ppp over E
[03:02] <wastrel> heh forgot :] 
[03:02] <Toma-> Mordof, ok good.
[03:02] <wastrel> roaring penguin
[03:02] <wastrel> that was my deal
[03:02] <Mordof> Toma-, the installation wont continue otherwise
[03:02] <Mordof> it tells you if it needs something
[03:02] <BigDaddy> I cannot "startx" because some file is corrupt and it tells me to fix it
[03:02] <marcose> question.. how does one install Umbrello on ubuntu ?
[03:03] <cmatheson> it seems the initrd image is broken in dapper.. i'm surprised that no fix has been uploaded the past few days though... is it just me?
[03:03] <cablop> MAYBE AMSN IS A BACKDOOR TO LINUX VIRUS?
[03:03] <Artan1s> What is the command to get updates again?
[03:03] <a2xm> hi all... I've a question: when I run this: smbclient -L servername, I got: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE. what's wrong with this? thanks
[03:03] <Toma-> Mordof, i know. the steps that really apply to you are 7 thru to 9
[03:03] <Artan1s> now that Im actually on my liinux machine
[03:03] <BigDaddy> but I'll be damned if I know how to do anything in the console
[03:03] <cmatheson> Artan1s: aptitude update
[03:03] <Toma-> cablop, lol.
[03:03] <Artan1s> cmatheson: I thought it was like sudo get update && get upgrade
[03:03] <cablop> I INSTALLED AMSN ALL THE TIMES MY SYSTEM CRASHES
[03:04] <snelkat> where do i go for dapper help/bugposts ?
[03:04] <cmatheson> Artan1s: you can also do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (aptitude is a better choice though)
[03:04] <emma34> Help, how can I install a Canon i470D printer in Ubuntu , printer is connected to print server in my network
[03:04] <IdleOne> what is the path to sources.list?
[03:04] <cablop> I BEGUN THINKING THE PROBLEM WAS CAUSED FOR AMSN DAMAGING MY XORG CONFIGURATION
[03:04] <crimsun> snelkat: (here)
[03:04] <Toma-> cablop, amsn is crashing your system?
[03:04] <BigDaddy> I could just wipe out my ubuntu and reinstall. It's not like I have any thing working on it now
[03:04] <crimsun> cablop: your capslock is stuck.
[03:04] <cmatheson> Artan1s: you will need sudo in front of all those commands
[03:04] <nickrud> IdleOne, /etc/apt
[03:04] <cablop> I DONT KNOW IF AMSN CRASHED MY SYSTEM
[03:04] <snelkat> crimsun: o i thought this was just for the stable release..
[03:04] <bubbleentity{L}> um, came in last night re: linmodem setup ( lucent)  -  modem now setup - able to dial and connect - no data transfering though link -
[03:04] <IdleOne> nickrud:  ty
[03:04] <Toma-> cablop, amsn doesnt alter anything. dont use caps either or you WILL be kicked.
[03:04] <BigDaddy> cablop - capslock is on
[03:04] <nickrud> BigDaddy, start with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <Artan1s> cmatheson: Thanks for the help man
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone here had any luck getting m4p's to play in ubuntu, those are music files bought from the iTunes store. Does SharpMusique play them?
[03:05] <Mordof> Toma-, ermm, it says to check the NOTES SECTION to see if i need the older driver, i cant find that list
[03:05] <cablop> BUT I INSTALLED AMS A FEW HOURS BEFORE MY SYSTEM DIE... THE THREEE TIMES MY UBUTU CRASHED I INSTALLED THE CURRENT AMSN VERSION
[03:05] <cmatheson> Artan1s: no problem
[03:05] <cablop> excuse me
[03:05] <Toma-> Mordof, dont worry, you need the new one :)
[03:05] <nickrud> cablop, so, don't do that
[03:05] <cablop> ok ok excuse me
[03:05] <Toma-> someone call the ops?
[03:05] <Artan1s> cmatheson: does it not take long? I think it may be done
[03:05] <wastrel> BigDaddy:  for your pppoe i found a post in the forums that may fix it
[03:05] <crimsun> Toma-: ops are present.
[03:05] <Toma-> rad.
[03:05] <BigDaddy> nickrud - what does that do? Go back a default setting?
[03:06] <cmatheson> Artan1s: if there were no updates it shouldn't take long at all... were there any errors printed?
[03:06] <Artan1s> no
[03:06] <cmatheson> Artan1s: ok, sounds like you're up to date then
[03:06] <cablop> ok, then, there's an explanations about why i cannot start a new session from ubuntu gnome?
[03:06] <Artan1s> cmatheson: ok cool, thanks alot
[03:06] <Toma-> people just dont understand. CAPS = No help for you.
[03:06] <Toma-> at least from me anyway.
[03:06] <Artan1s> cmatheson: have any links for some cool things a linux nooby can do to learn some of the basics?
[03:06] <BigDaddy> If it is in the forums, I am sure I have read it and tried it
[03:06] <tatters_> at least with windows they treat me a monkey and not a guinnea pig
[03:06] <wastrel> BigDaddy:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  will redo the installer configuration utility for the x server ackage
[03:06] <a2xm> pianoboy3333, did you try using bmpx?
[03:06] <nickrud> BigDaddy, essentially, yes. If answering those questions to the best of your ability doesn't help, come on back :)
[03:07] <bubbleentity{L}> is there a defult firewall in system?  no packet transfer from dailup
[03:07] <Madraykin> how come when I type in "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" it says E: couldn't find package ?
[03:07] <nickrud> BigDaddy, what kind of video card?
[03:07] <cmatheson> Artan1s: hmm, i mostly learned stuff from linuxdoc.org... lots of good howto's there for beginner's
[03:07] <pianoboy3333> a2xm: is it in the repositories?\
[03:07] <BigDaddy> nvidia Geforce GT 6600 PCI-E SLI
[03:07] <Artan1s> cmatheson: thanks
[03:07] <mwillis> Hi everyone!
[03:07] <dijungal> how do an icon theme..?
[03:07] <Toma-> Madraykin, because you dont have a repo with java 1.5 in it?
[03:07] <BigDaddy> oh, 128
[03:07] <mwillis> Does anyone know what option I should use to mount a quota?
[03:07] <cablop> I tried " dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" yesterday, no work
[03:07] <dijungal> how do i activate an icon theme?
[03:07] <Angel_Dex> OMG
[03:07] <Madraykin> Toma-: I'm not sure, how do I check?
[03:08] <Angel_Dex> KICK ASS
[03:08] <pianoboy3333> ubotu: tell dijungal about theme
[03:08] <cablop> my video card a sis 630/730
[03:08] <jaro> Hi there. Does anyone know about some editor which works well on really large files without loss of speed?
[03:08] <mwillis> What option to mount a partition that I want to support quota?
[03:08] <snelkat> i have a problem with connecting to a windows vpn (using pppd/pptp with mppe), i've tried the ubuntu-guide att pptp-linux's homepage, and i've tried with pptpconfig. the connection is made, but i can't send/recieve any packages, i get this when i run "pon" in debug mode: "pppd[5631] : Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol ******" in which the *** differs on whether what kind of packet im trying to send. what could possible be wrong?
[03:08] <mwillis> I tried tagxid and tagctx and neither seem to work
[03:08] <Toma-> Madraykin, "apt-cache search jre1.5"
[03:08] <jaro> (for example 42MB of plain text)
[03:08] <Madraykin> aye
[03:08] <a2xm> pianoboy3333, I forgot about that, but I successfully install on my home
[03:08] <cmatheson> Madraykin: just apt-get install java-package, and then download the jre from sun's website... run 'make-jpkg <jre-file> && dpkg -i <new-jre.deb>
[03:08] <BigDaddy> OK, I am going to try that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:08] <navarone> Angel_Dex, firs time online in ubuntu?
[03:08] <nickrud> BigDaddy, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) , then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> djungal: to install one, just drag and drop over the system->preferences->theme program
[03:09] <cablop> Madraykin there's no jre 1.5 file in repositories
[03:09] <Madraykin> Toma-: nothing happened even ought the code executed
[03:09] <nickrud> BigDaddy, after the dpkg-rconfigure
[03:09] <Madraykin> cablop: ah
[03:09] <cablop> only a script package
[03:09] <a2xm> hi all... I've a question: when I run this: smbclient -L servername, I got: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE. what's wrong with this? thanks
[03:09] <Toma-> Madraykin, or get this package... http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/breezy/java/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[03:09] <Toma-> and dpkg -i it
[03:09] <BigDaddy> nickrud - OK
[03:09] <cablop> you must go to sun directly and read how to create a .deb from the .bin
[03:09] <Angel_Dex> navarone XD no i put my ubuntu HD into another computer and X didnt start cuz the hardware change so i booted the live CD and replaced the Xconfig on the HD with the one i booted and it worked im so hapeh
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> a2xm: is it in the repositories?
[03:09] <rewt_> my volume icons keep dissappearing >.<
[03:10] <nickrud> rewt_, does your sound go away at the same time?
[03:10] <Toma-> Mordof, any luck?
[03:10] <wastrel> jaro:  i've edited files that large in vim
[03:10] <reiki> I freaking LOVE Ubuntu. I had just 2 apps for which there is no linux port and one is a critical medical equipment data reporting tool. I have VMware Workstation 5.5.1 running in Ubuntu with a fresh WinXP installation inside a virtual machine. It's kinda like cheating but ... it WORKS
[03:10] <rewt_> nickrud...nope
[03:10] <a2xm> pianoboy3333, I forgot about that, but I successfully install in my home
[03:10] <bubbleentity{L}> um, came in last night re: linmodem setup ( lucent)  -  modem now setup - able to dial and connect - no data transfering though link - average 4-5 packets total transfered
[03:10] <Madraykin> Hmm
[03:10] <cablop> mmm good solutions
[03:10] <nickrud> rewt_, then, I'd delete the panel and rebuild it. No promises, but it worked once for me :)
[03:10] <tatters_> rewt maybe someones rooted ya:
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> a2xm: forgot about what? where do u get bpmx?
[03:10] <dijungal> ok i am liking ubuntu now
[03:10] <rewt_> nickrud....okay -.-
[03:10] <cablop> Madraykin, remember there's no deb available because its illegal to distribute java .deb files
[03:11] <cablop> only java can distribute them
[03:11] <a2xm> pianoboy3333, I forgot where I got the bmpx
[03:11] <nickrud> rewt_, I am not sure why, but it worked
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> ok
[03:11] <cablop> so download the file prior sun notice  http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ is distributing the package XDDD
[03:11] <a2xm> pianoboy3333, but for sure I can play the mp4 from iTunes
[03:11] <Madraykin> cablop: uh, how come?
[03:11] <mebaran151> I'm having a bit of a problem
[03:11] <jaro> wastrel: I do. But loading time is quite long.
[03:12] <mebaran151> my nforce network card won't dhcp
[03:12] <pianoboy3333> a2xm: but aren't mp4's movies?
[03:12] <mebaran151> eth0 is created and the module is loaded
[03:12] <bubbleentity{L}> came in last night re: linmodem setup ( lucent)  -  modem now setup - able to dial and connect - no data transfering though link - average 4-5 packets total transfered
[03:12] <mebaran151> but it doesn't seem like it recieves or gets packets for dhcp
[03:12] <cablop> i's a matter of licences, jave is "open" source
[03:12] <a2xm> pianoboy3333, nope... just the music files
[03:12] <cablop> but'0s not gnu
[03:12] <mebaran151> pianoboy3333, the mpeg4 standard has two parts
[03:12] <mebaran151> one is mpeg4 movies
[03:12] <farmer> Is it okay to install http://packages.debian.org/stable/sound/vsound for our ubuntu computer?
[03:12] <mebaran151> and the other is aac audio
[03:12] <rewt_> nickrud, okay just did it.
[03:12] <mebaran151> which is mpeg4 audio
[03:12] <pianoboy3333> !bpmx
[03:12] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:12] <rewt_> They usually dissappear at start up so im going to reboot...brb
[03:12] <mebaran151> so what can I do
[03:13] <mebaran151> how can I diagnose my dhcp problem
[03:13] <emma34> please help me install a network printer in ubuntu , it connected to printserver
[03:13] <adub> make[2] : *** [/orinoco/orinoco-0.15rc4/orinoco.o]  Error 1        im trying to patch my orinoco drivers and i get that make error
[03:13] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know where I can get bpmx?
[03:13] <sopionblax> !cupsweb
[03:13] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[03:13] <Mordof> Toma-, ok, ive copied out the instructions i need in cli... brb
[03:13] <Toma-> ok
[03:13] <Madraykin> bah, gnome is freezing on me ... lagging
[03:13] <pianoboy3333> a2xm: but how does it play it if it's encrypted
[03:13] <pianoboy3333> ?
[03:13] <mebaran151> it doesn't...
[03:13] <mebaran151> unless you kill the drm
[03:14] <mebaran151> it ain't real encryption per se
[03:14] <bubbleentity{L}> came in last night re: linmodem setup ( lucent)  -  modem now setup - able to dial and connect - no data transfering though link - average 4-5 packets total transfered
[03:14] <mordof_> Toma-: currently in cli..
[03:15] <Artan1s> Is there a p2p program for linux?
[03:15] <Toma-> ok brb phone
[03:15] <Artan1s> I need some music
[03:15] <crimsun> mebaran151: need more detail.
[03:15] <tatters_> yah knickmycontentdotcom
[03:15] <adub> artan1s amule, gtk gnutella limewire
[03:16] <Artan1s> adub: thanks
[03:16] <adub> make[2] : *** [/orinoco/orinoco-0.15rc4/orinoco.o]  Error 1     <-------   im trying to patch my orinoco drivers and i get that make error
[03:16] <cablop> does amsn damage ubuntu?
[03:16] <zebraFusion> How can I remove evolution
[03:16] <rewt_> Well so far so good. Much thanks.
[03:16] <rewt_> Now for my next problem.
[03:16] <crimsun> cablop: no
[03:16] <adub> dpkg -r evolution   apt-get remove evolution zebrafusion
[03:16] <crimsun> adub: the real error is several lines above that
[03:17] <navarone> Artanis also phex which is a java client for gnutella network
[03:17] <rewt_> When I login...right when my login screen appears, I hear a beep. Then the drum plays. After i input my pw, i har a beep again. what could that be?
[03:17] <adub> crimsun possibly and id love you if you could help me
[03:17] <adub> lol i have been working on this orinoco card to work properly in monitor mode for some time now
[03:17] <cablop> does OpenOffice 2.0.0.2 damage ubuntu?
[03:17] <Madraykin> whats the bash command line to reboot the system?
[03:17] <rewt_> <--has orinoco classic gold with monitor mode enabled :-D
[03:17] <cablop> something has damaged my ubuntu gnome, and i don't know what is
[03:18] <crimsun> Madraykin: sudo shutdown -r now
[03:18] <cablop> i want to fix the problem
[03:18] <tatters_> drummer is possibly on no repeat fee
[03:18] <navarone> madraykin "sudo shutdown -r now"  < - - r is for reboot now mean immediately
[03:18] <cablop> i installed my system two times in two days, by the same error
[03:18] <adub> rewt_   c00L can you help me bro
[03:18] <Madraykin> w00t.
[03:18] <cablop> the problem is
[03:18] <nickrud> rewt_, the ubuntu drum roll, and the beep, I'm not sure
[03:18] <Artan1s> .rpm extension not supported by ubuntu?
[03:18] <bubbleentity{L}> is someone able to help with networking problems, please?
[03:18] <nickrud> Artan1s, no
[03:18] <rewt_> When I login...right when my login screen appears, I hear a beep. Then the drum plays. After i input my pw, i har a beep again. what could that be?  grr its annoying
[03:18] <rewt_> adub possibly?
[03:18] <cablop> i cant start any gtk+gnome application launched as a different user
[03:18] <rewt_> u got the classic gold?
[03:19] <navarone> Madraykin you can shutdown (ie power off) by changing r to h for halt
[03:19] <adub> rewt_ im getting an error on make         yes i have classic gold lucent
[03:19] <nickrud> Artan1s, well, not supported for installation, you can look inside one with archive-manager I think
[03:19] <cablop> and i CANNOT switch between users
[03:19] <cablop> i must close my session befor opening a new one
[03:19] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know where I can get bpmx?
[03:19] <rewt_> adub......what are you using to monitor?
[03:19] <cablop> could YOU hlep me?
[03:19] <Artan1s> nickrud, I downloaded limewire and its rpm so I cant install it
[03:19] <wastrel> cablop:  why can't you switch between users?
[03:19] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: from bmpx's wiki
[03:19] <nickrud> Artan1s, true.
[03:19] <Toma-> mordof_, ok... hows it going?
[03:19] <Frogzo1> rewt_: -> sys -> prefs -> sound -> sound events
[03:19] <nickrud> !tell Artan1s about limewire
[03:19] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: otherwise, wait til it passes Debian NEW
[03:20] <Frogzo1> !frostwire
[03:20] <ubotu> somebody said frostwire was a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[03:20] <Artan1s> nickrud, what can I use to download instead of limewire?
[03:20] <cablop> mmm, when i try to launch a new logon screen ubuntu says "There are error trying to start X Server"
[03:20] <adub> kismet
[03:20] <navarone> wastrel took me a while to opena  terminla to find message from xwininfo...I was using alt-f2 to start prog not from terminal...<s>
[03:20] <Madraykin> Now do I make the ubuntu screen text login before it goes to gnome?
[03:20] <nickrud> Artan1s, frostwire is recommended I guess :)
[03:20] <Toma-> Artan1s, gtk-gnutella works good...
[03:20] <nickrud> !limewire
[03:20] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[03:20] <adub> kwifimanager i can see my connection strength and that works fine
[03:20] <cablop> or ubuntu says "I cant start X server. maybe it's not configured"
[03:20] <rewt_> Frogzo1, what am i looking for?
[03:20] <wastrel> navarone:  ahh sry  i didn't realize, heh i always use terminal - usually forget about the run dialog
[03:20] <tatters_> how can I steal
[03:20] <rewt_> Frogzo1, there are alot of sounds
[03:20] <crimsun> Madraykin: echo something into /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[03:21] <rewt_> * a lot
[03:21] <nickrud> Artan1s, yes, gnutella, or the info to use limewire was just posted
[03:21] <Artan1s> thanks
[03:21] <navarone> wastrel no prob...was a learning experience...and no one got hurt...lol
[03:21] <cablop> this is the problem
[03:21] <adub> rewt_   what do i do about the make error  ??   cant figure out why its erroring
[03:21] <cablop> ok, a sencond face of the same problem
[03:21] <Madraykin> crimsun: Hmmm what you mean, can you give me the exact bash line?
[03:21] <rewt_> adub,  what are you using to monitor with?
[03:21] <cablop> i try to launch applications of different users from my account
[03:22] <zebraFusion> Is ln the Linux version of a shortcut?
[03:22] <crimsun> Madraykin: echo false |sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[03:22] <cablop> then i write "$ su anotheruser theirapplication"
[03:22] <farmer> Is it okay to install http://packages.debian.org/stable/sound/vsound for our ubuntu computer?
[03:22] <rewt_> Frogzo1, there are alot of sounds...what am i looking for in here?
[03:22] <cablop> zebraFusion, nope, is something better
[03:22] <crimsun> cablop: you should be using gksudo -u
[03:22] <cablop> zebraFusion - it's like an alias for folders
[03:22] <adub> rewt_ kismet
[03:23] <jetscreamer> bubbleentity{L}: just state wtf is wrong and what you've tried
[03:23] <zebraFusion> cablop: I don't get it :[
[03:23] <jetscreamer> !ask
[03:23] <MarcN> zebraFusion: a windows shortcut is similar to 'ln -s'.  which is very different from simply ln (softlink vs hardlink).  Usually you want a softlink.
[03:23] <tatters_> where can I download open source music and films I want to go straight :/
[03:23] <crimsun> adub: did you ever pastebin your compilation errors?
[03:23] <rewt_> did you configure the card in kismet.conf?
[03:23] <jetscreamer> ya'll have a not so factoid stuffed bot btw
[03:23] <navreet> can mplayer play .mov files under 64bit?
[03:23] <adub> crimsun i will do that now
[03:23] <jetscreamer> ahh
[03:23] <Artan1s> once I download Gnutella, how do I install it
[03:23] <tristan_> can someone help me install 'make'
[03:23] <jetscreamer> !tell bubbleentity{L} -about ask
[03:23] <Artan1s> its .deb
[03:23] <bubbleentity{L}> jetscreamer, no packets are being transfered by dailup connection ,
[03:23] <cablop> No works
[03:23] <jetscreamer> dpkg -i blah.deb
[03:24] <Artan1s> ty
[03:24] <zebraFusion> is there a command that restarts all current aplications?
[03:24] <tatters_> reboot
[03:24] <cablop> gksudo -u root gedit gives me sollowing warning "(gedit:9707): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:24] <cablop> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."
[03:24] <RedRose> what's the name of the C man pages
[03:24] <nickrud> Artan1s, no, just sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:24] <lulu> wow
[03:24] <tristan_> is the GNU "make" program in the package manager somewhere?
[03:24] <pablo> Hello dear friends I am new user of Ubuntu
[03:24] <jetscreamer> apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev and some gcc stuff which should already be there tristan_
[03:24] <lulu> so many users
[03:24] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8724       <-----  rewt_  crimsun
[03:24] <rewt_> adum, hold on
[03:24] <crimsun> cablop: gksudo gedit $foo
[03:24] <rewt_> :)
[03:24] <nickrud> Artan1s, if you have to 'download' a program, you're probably going at it in the wrong direction
[03:24] <pablo> I am with issues for config my palm os
[03:25] <crimsun> cablop: better yet: gksudo 'gedit $foo'
[03:25] <bubbleentity{L}> is there a way around this,   modem is now configured correctly, isp adv connection is fine , no data thoughput
[03:25] <pablo> Someone able to help me about this ?
[03:25] <cablop> same warning
[03:25] <jetscreamer> RedRose: apt-get install manpages-dev maybe not sure
[03:25] <Artan1s> nickrud, I used the open with and it said it was unsuported
[03:25] <MarcN> pablo: just ask your question/state your problem.
[03:25] <cablop> and gedit doesn't work
[03:25] <bubbleentity{L}> no known firewall
[03:25] <teoti> adub, p/m with me
[03:25] <bimberi> tristan_: yes, the package is "make", although you might want "build-essential"
[03:25] <Artan1s> nickrud, when I did it your wa i got  the error 'E: Couldn't find package gtk-gnutella
[03:25] <Artan1s> '
[03:25] <navarone> Artanis gtk-gnutella is available thru apt-get or synaptic
[03:25] <lulu> can anyone tell me what i use to compile make programs pls?
[03:26] <cablop> zebraFusion, when you use ln, you can access a directory using their original name or the new one
[03:26] <tatters_> make
[03:26] <navarone> Artanis you need to enable a repo probably
[03:26] <nickrud> Artan1s, you need to enable the repository that has gtk-gnutella, namely universe
[03:26] <nickrud> !univers
[03:26] <tristan_> ok thanks you jetscreamer and bimberi I will try
[03:26] <ubotu> nickrud: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:26] <teoti> adub.....u here?
[03:26] <nickrud> !universr
[03:26] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[03:26] <crimsun> adub: dpkg -l gcc-3.4|grep ^ii
[03:26] <IdleOne> !es
[03:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:26] <Artan1s> nickrud, sorry, but how
[03:26] <nickrud> !universe
[03:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:26] <nickrud> Artan1s, I finally typed it right, just above
[03:26] <adub> teoti yeah
[03:26] <teoti> p/m with me
[03:27] <cablop> zebraFusion, imagine you set some xmmms skins and you want to share the same folder with many users, then you use ln, to create those folders but using really only one
[03:27] <Artan1s> nickrud: !universe
[03:27] <Artan1s> whoops
[03:27] <tristan_> "Couldn't find package build-essential"
[03:27] <adub> gcc-3.4        3.4.4-6ubuntu8 The GNU C compiler        <--- crimsun
[03:27] <nickrud> lol
[03:27] <Artan1s> nickrud: bash: !universe: event not found
[03:27] <b1ind> anyone else notice that the package servers are mighty slow? or is it just me?
[03:27] <crimsun> adub: export CC=gcc-3.4
[03:27] <tatters_> just u
[03:27] <crimsun> adub: then try 'make' again
[03:27] <lulu> can anyone tell what build-essential package is for?
[03:27] <nickrud> Artan1s,  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:27] <teoti> adub join me on #orinocoConf
[03:27] <cablop> crimsun gedit opened at last, but i need to use it with root privileges
[03:27] <Artan1s> ty
[03:27] <nickrud> lulu, gcc, make, dpkg-dev, and a bit extra
[03:28] <adub> crimsun ahhh that makes sense
[03:28] <zebraFusion> How can I add an application to system startup?
[03:28] <bimberi> tristan_: hm, that's strange,  put your sources.list on the pastebin
[03:28] <jetscreamer> bubbleentity{L}: sorry that i personally am unable to help you with dialup, never done it with linux... you can try http://tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html  which has  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Diald-HOWTO.html and http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/index.html , or just ask again in a few
[03:28] <MarcN> lulu: gives you all the stuff you typically need to compile/link
[03:28] <tristan_> ok
[03:28] <tristan_> plz hold
[03:28] <adub> crimsun still errors
[03:28] <teoti> adub, /join #orinocoConf
[03:28] <nickrud> zebraFusion, system-pref-sessions startup programs tab
[03:28] <lulu> nicdrud, thank you i will try it now
[03:28] <pablo> Someone able to help me about wine ?
[03:28] <tatters_> nvr add a source willy nilly u dont know what lurks there
[03:28] <navarone> Artanis your repo servers may be down as well...mine seem to be after trying apt-cache search
[03:29] <bimberi> sheesh, although not as bad as 'mudpilot' yesterday
[03:29] <lulu> has anyone here install 'nachos' on linux before?
[03:29] <zebraFusion> nickrud: If I wanted to start Azureus on startup, I would just enter Azureus?
[03:29] <cablop> zebraFusion if you want to restar all graphics applications press ctrl+alt+BKSPACE
[03:30] <zebraFusion> cablop: Thanks for the help, but I want to do this all through the command line (ssh)
[03:30] <nickrud> zebraFusion, yes
[03:30] <tatters_> shh u dont know whose listning
[03:30] <navarone> ok I am off for the night...take care folks
[03:30] <pablo> If someone will want to add me on ORKUT for helpme about UBUNTU feel free Pablo Frota, I am brazilian
[03:30] <humboldt> is there a logging facility that lets me log everything (apache, postfix, syslog) to a db, so I can more easily search for entries?
[03:30] <jetscreamer> !br
[03:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:30] <cablop> there's no solution to my trouble
[03:30] <jetscreamer> hth
[03:31] <cablop> i think i got a virus for linux
[03:31] <wastrel> i always liked wvdial for dialup
[03:31] <dijungal> quick question: how do i enable hybernate/suspend in ubuntu..?
[03:31] <zebraFusion> nickrud: do you know the syntax to connect to a remote machien using vncviewer?
[03:31] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: will bmpx play m4p's?
[03:31] <crimsun> cablop: is your current user in the admin group?
[03:31] <nickrud> zebraFusion, no idea, sorry
[03:31] <lulu> hi has anyone ran nachos on linux before?
[03:31] <cablop> yes, admin, adm and root
[03:31] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: not if its backend doesn't
[03:31] <cablop> ah, sudo too
[03:31] <nickrud> pppconfig stomps wvdial
[03:31] <crimsun> cablop: it shouldn't be in group root
[03:31] <tristan_> I've pasted my sources.list at http://pastebin.com/557059
[03:32] <crimsun> cablop: nor sudo
[03:32] <adub> crimsun you still here that didnt work i still get error
[03:32] <Toma-> cablop, did you install the amsn package for ubuntu from the website?
[03:32] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: backend meaning encoded?
[03:32] <cablop> i'm on sudo group, it let me use sudo withouth entering my password
[03:32] <dijungal> how do i enable hybernate/suspend in ubuntu..?
[03:32] <crimsun> adub: I can't help you if you don't keep your error posting updated
[03:32] <cablop> Toma, yes i installed this
[03:32] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: no, I mean if xine or gst packages supporting faad
[03:33] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: are{n't} installed
[03:33] <bimberi> zebraFusion: xvncviewer address:n  (eg. 192.168.1.10:1)
[03:33] <pianoboy3333> oh
[03:33] <zebraFusion> Ahhhh, I was forgetting the x.
[03:33] <tatters_> 49% of zombie PC are linux
[03:33] <Toma-> cablop, i can verify there is nothing wrong and there is definitly no virus in it.
[03:33] <zebraFusion> bimberi, Thanks a bunch. Can n = 0, as to run in the same instance as the machine's monitor is showing?
[03:33] <crimsun> cablop: ll .X*
[03:34] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8725       <---  crimsun and thanks btw
[03:34] <cablop> Toma, this one amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[03:34] <Toma-> cablop, yep.
[03:34] <cablop> crimsun, what's ll .X* ?
[03:34] <bimberi> zebraFusion: i don't know sorry
[03:34] <dijungal> how do i enable hybernate/suspend in ubuntu..?
[03:34] <crimsun> cablop: it's a command from which I need output
[03:34] <bimberi> tristan_: those sources look ok, have you run "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[03:34] <Toma-> isnt it ls?
[03:34] <cablop> but three times ubuntu filed i instaled this program
[03:35] <crimsun> cablop: more precisely, ll ~/.X*
[03:35] <tristan_> no, not in like 2 months
[03:35] <tristan_> I will - thanks
[03:35] <cablop> how to run it?
[03:35] <crimsun> cablop: do you have a Terminal open?
[03:35] <Toma-> crimsun, no ll command here...
[03:35] <crimsun> Toma-: ls -l, then
[03:35] <cablop> there's no ll
[03:35] <crimsun> Toma-: (it's an alias you need to uncomment in ~/.bashrc)
[03:36] <Toma-> i c.
[03:36] <cablop> this is the output -rw-------  1 cablop cablop 167 2006-02-15 20:16 /home/cablop/.Xauthority
[03:36] <tatters_> 49% of linux are zombie PC,thats some percentage compared to its userbase,,,,,,,,,,,,,makes u think dunnit
[03:36] <adub> crimsun you have any other suggestion on the #make
[03:36] <nickrud> ll was one of the first things I ever learned about unix
[03:36] <crimsun> adub: did you update your error pastebin?
[03:36] <cablop> crimsun, the output is -rw-------  1 cablop cablop 167 2006-02-15 20:16 /home/cablop/.Xauthority
[03:36] <nickrud> tatters_, sources, please
[03:36] <teoti> Frogzo1, still here?
[03:36] <crimsun> cablop: good
[03:36] <djzn> how do I install the X-Window System without KDE or GNOME together in the server system
[03:36] <tatters_> the interweb
[03:36] <cablop> what does it mean?
[03:36] <fliptod> can someone answer a network question
[03:37] <nickrud> tatters_, nm, maybe on #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <Toma-> djzn, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[03:37] <lulu> tatters_, what do u mean 'zombie' pc?
[03:37] <crimsun> (x-window-system-core)
[03:37] <fliptod> how can i find broadcast address
[03:37] <crimsun> fliptod: look at your ifconfig output
[03:37] <teoti> Frogzo
[03:37] <teoti> ?
[03:37] <cablop> command not found
[03:37] <Frogzo1> fliptod: ifconfig
[03:38] <djzn> TOma: will it install the whole thing?
[03:38] <fliptod> i'm on c class network but if config tells me 255.255.255.255
[03:38] <nickrud> djzn, you'll also need a window manager, like twm
[03:38] <crimsun> cablop: which command?
[03:38] <tatters_> one that has been taken over in some way,like email spammer
[03:38] <a2xm> Nameeater, are u there?
[03:38] <cablop> (x-window-system-core)
[03:38] <Artan1s> nickrud: w00t thanks alot man
[03:38] <cablop> hehe
[03:38] <fliptod> is that right?
[03:38] <tatters_> or used for a DDOS
[03:38] <nickrud> Artan1s, yw
[03:38] <crimsun> cablop: that wasn't directed to you
[03:38] <cablop> maybe i commited a mistake
[03:38] <Frogzo1> teoti: I'm just lurking really
[03:38] <teoti> you said to go into my sound preferences
[03:39] <Frogzo1> teoti: rewt?
[03:39] <Toma-> djzn, that'll install a whole lot of Xorg stuff. run "apt-cache show xserver-xorg"
[03:39] <fliptod> should'nt it be 192.168.1.255?
[03:39] <teoti> yes
[03:39] <adub> crimsun you there
[03:39] <Mordof> Toma-, man, you rock!!!
[03:39] <crimsun> fliptod: depends on your netmask
[03:39] <navreet> anyone know why my fonts are still a little bit fuzzy under ubuntu? they're not SUPER CRISP [I am using an LCD btw] 
[03:39] <Frogzo1> fliptod: well it depends, but probably yes
[03:39] <navreet> at native res
[03:39] <fliptod> netmask is 255.255.255.0
[03:39] <crimsun> adub: I'm waiting for an answer to my last two questions
[03:39] <Frogzo1> fliptod: check your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:40] <Toma-> Mordof, its working?!
[03:40] <cablop> crimsun, what i must do with this result? i don't know what's that
[03:40] <fliptod> for what exactly
[03:40] <Mordof> Toma-, yeah!!! perfectly :D:D:D
[03:40] <crimsun> cablop: wait a sec, I'm busy
[03:40] <Toma-> Mordof, have you given it a reboot test?
[03:40] <cablop> mmm ok, sorry
[03:40] <Mordof> Toma-, erm, i forget.. ill do that now
[03:40] <nickrud> navreet, try experimenting with System-Preferences-Font, specifically subpixel smoothing and rgb order in details
[03:40] <Toma-> Mordof, good luck :D
[03:40] <adub> crimsun sorry what were they
[03:40] <adub> i posted an error message
[03:41] <adub> a new one
[03:41] <Frogzo1> teoti: I'm not going to hold your hand, you now have enough to fix the problem
[03:41] <crimsun> adub: url?
[03:41] <Madraykin> in the unoffical ubuntu guide, it says "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" to add more stuff in the repostories ... what does the that URL I wrote do?
[03:41] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8725       <---  crimsun and thanks btw
[03:41] <fliptod> ok i see. thanks a bunch
[03:41] <nickrud> Madraykin, just ignore that guide
[03:41] <Toma-> Madraykin, thats a hoary repo.
[03:41] <nickrud> !ubuntuguide
[03:41] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[03:41] <Mordof> Toma-, sufficive to say, my screensavers run at like 210fps instead of 9fps now though :P
[03:41] <Mordof> so i think its working normal
[03:42] <Toma-> sooper
[03:42] <teoti> Frogzo1, the sound im hearing isnt in here
[03:42] <Toma-> Mordof, reboot will be the all important decider tho...
[03:42] <navreet> nickrud, already did, it's easily seen by typing =, the space between the two bars of the = is gray... is it same for you?
[03:42] <Madraykin> Hmm alrightly
[03:42] <elkbuntu> Toma-, he's just gone to do that now ;)
[03:42] <cablop> Madraykin, go to System->Administration->Sysnaptic Package Manager
[03:42] <Frogzo1> teoti: then I don't know where it is
[03:42] <Madraykin> aye
[03:43] <crimsun> adub: why are you using a patch? Your chipset should be patched already.
[03:43] <teoti> arg anyway to look it up in cnsole?
[03:43] <cablop> Madraykin - then in options look for repositories and edit it
[03:43] <nickrud> navreet, I'm not on a laptop right now but I was able to get a crisp image on one doing what I suggested above
[03:43] <cablop> add or remove or uncheck
[03:43] <Madraykin> cablop: Hmm yeah, I alrightly edit the repositories
[03:43] <adub> crimsun really????  i dont understand?????
[03:43] <cablop> Madraykin ok
[03:43] <crimsun> cablop: do you get the same error with gksudo and gksu (presuming you've configured a root passwd)?
[03:43] <adub> kismet doesnt run
[03:43] <cablop> crimsum, yes
[03:44] <teoti> what is this "system bell" in sound preferences?
[03:44] <crimsun> adub: you should have been able to just configure kismet's /etc/kismet/kismet.conf, then start it. It won't run if you don't edit the conffile first.
[03:44] <nickrud> teoti, it's a beep from the pc speaker
[03:44] <Mordof> OMG! TOMA
[03:44] <axiom> hi, i've run into a problem with GCC. any configure script returns "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" any ideas?
[03:44] <crimsun> adub: there are instructions in /usr/share/doc/kismet/
[03:44] <Mordof> i get 540 fps instead of 15 in antispect screensaver! lmfao
[03:44] <cablop> crimsun, and i cant open a new logon screen, my systme it's only working with one-unique-user gtk+gnome applications at the same time
[03:44] <crimsun> axiom: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[03:44] <Mordof> you are the best!
[03:44] <zebraFusion> how can I restart all current running programs
[03:44] <axiom> crimsun: thank you
[03:44] <zebraFusion> or even a single one?
[03:44] <cablop> crimsun, but i can open gedit or nautilus directly
[03:45] <zebraFusion> from command line
[03:45] <Mordof> Toma-, no glitches, works perfect :D
[03:45] <Madraykin> After  I installed a program in synamtic, how do I access the program?
[03:45] <Toma-> awesome :)
[03:45] <cablop> crimsun, and i can type sudo konquest or sudo gimp, and they work
[03:45] <Mordof> lol.. 540 fps
[03:45] <Mordof> hey! i wonder if warcraft 3 will wine no!
[03:45] <Mordof> now
[03:45] <crimsun> cablop: but gksudo gimp doesn't?
[03:45] <teoti> yea take off the comment on the lucent orinoco in the conf
[03:45] <Mordof> last time i got it to start up but it just stayed black
[03:45] <cablop> mmm let me try
[03:45] <Mordof> maybe it was my vid card drivers
[03:46] <Toma-> Mordof, i can run warcraft 3 thru wine on a tnt2 :D
[03:46] <crimsun> cablop: (why do you need root privileges for gimp anyway)?
[03:46] <teoti> if that's enabled will i hear a beep on bootup?
[03:46] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  you can restart currently running services with their init script.
[03:46] <Mordof> Toma-, sweet! wc3 is my fave game.. any suggestions as to getting it working perfect? (and on bnet)
[03:46] <cablop> crimsun, gksudo gimp works
[03:46] <Mordof> possibly
[03:46] <nickrud> teoti, the gnome bell is way later that the boot beep, and has no control over it
[03:46] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  for example  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[03:46] <Toma-> Mordof, bnet... no idea. only played locally :(
[03:46] <crimsun> cablop: so gksudo and sudo both work fine
[03:46] <w32> hey everybody-whats new
[03:46] <zebraFusion> wastrel: would Azureus be in that same location?
[03:47] <crimsun> cablop: now what commands are giving you errors (not warnings)?
[03:47] <Mordof> Toma-, k... lmao.. they should put a cap on the fps of the screensavers, in AntSpotLight i get 890 fps
[03:47] <Toma-> Mordof, just run it with "wine War3.exe -opengl"
[03:47] <Syco54645> can anyone help me with my flash problem?  i have firefox 1.5 installed along with the newest flash player (i did it via apt-get and when that didnt work i did it manually) and sites are still saying that i either have javascript turned off or an old version of flash player.  can anyone give me a hand with fixing this?
[03:47] <teoti> so why would my system beep on login? then play the login sound then beep when i input pw
[03:47] <Mordof> Toma-, k :)
[03:47] <tristan_> what was the name of the package "make" is in again?
[03:48] <crimsun> tristan_: 'make'
[03:48] <nickrud> Syco54645, take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for help with ff 1.5 & plugins
[03:48] <crimsun> tristan_: the metapackage is 'build-essential'
[03:48] <Hobbsee> tristan_: build-essential?
[03:48] <tristan_> yes thank you all
[03:48] <Toma-> Mordof, actually, i use cedega for that...
[03:48] <l_r> hello
[03:48] <Syco54645> nickrud: thanks, ill look there now
[03:48] <mwillis>  Can anyone help me find the latest kernel to support quotas for ext3?
[03:48] <Mordof> Toma-, i dont have cedega :S
[03:48] <cablop> crimsun, mmmmmmmmmmmm let me think
[03:48] <Toma-> !cvscedega
[03:48] <ubotu> Toma-: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:49] <l_r> is it possible to install a copy of the running ubuntu system on the hardisk from within the live-cd?
[03:49] <nickrud> l_r, no
[03:49] <cablop> crimsun,  i tryied gksudo konquest, it works witjh a lot of warnings and finnally they crashes
[03:49] <l_r> do you know which distros allow this actually?
[03:49] <ravv> Um a site for pasting images online? (quick non secure, just post for forumusage)
[03:49] <nickrud> l_r, or, for all practical purposes, no
[03:49] <cablop> crimsun, excuseme
[03:50] <teoti> nickrud,  so why would my system beep on login? then play the login sound then beep when i input pw?
[03:50] <nickrud> l_r, I've heard that the ubuntu dapper release will be able to
[03:50] <cablop> crimsun, i tryied gksudo konquest, a lot of warnings but it works
[03:50] <cablop> crimsun, i tryied gksudo gimp
[03:50] <cablop> crimsun, no errors no warnings
[03:50] <l_r> nickrud, when will that be out?
[03:50] <crimsun> cablop: have you updated to the fixed KDE packages? See http://kubuntu.org
[03:50] <nickrud> l_r, late april I hear
[03:50] <Syco54645> nickrud: um i already did this stuff and it still doesnt work for me
[03:50] <cablop> crimsun, now trying gksudo gedit
[03:51] <cablop> mmm, yes, by a mistake, i don't want to update now
[03:51] <Mordof> Toma-, ive heard it working in wine though, should i just use that?
[03:51] <nickrud> Syco54645, wherever your firefox is at, there should be a directory plugins under it: that needs to be populated with links to java & firefox.
[03:51] <Toma-> Mordof, yeh...
[03:51] <bdawg543456> !help
[03:51] <cablop> crimsun, i closed konquest but commandline remains waiting, i must press ctrl+c
[03:51] <teoti> nickrud,  so why would my system beep on login? then play the login sound then beep when i input pw? :(
[03:51] <Syco54645> ok
[03:51] <nickrud> Syco54645, I'm currently using the breezy firefox, but that page worked for me
[03:51] <Syco54645> ill check then
[03:51] <bdawg543456> anyone help me?
[03:52] <Syco54645> nickrud: thanks anyways
[03:52] <catskul> How rough is dapper right now ? (usable ? )
[03:52] <nickrud> teoti, because it should? ;)
[03:52] <crimsun> cablop: I'd check for KDE updates first. See http://kubuntu.org
[03:52] <cablop> still wainting for gedit to open
[03:52] <Toma-> Mordof, http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=warcraft3
[03:52] <adub> crimsun:     FATAL: Failed to set monitor mode: Invalid argument.  This usually means your drivers either do not support monitor mode, or use a different mechanism for
[03:52] <Mordof> Toma-, tyvm
[03:52] <teoti> nickrud, it never used to do it....
[03:52] <adub> got kismet to work but yeah i still need monitor mode
[03:52] <crimsun> adub: is this with kismet correctly configured?
[03:52] <nickrud> Syco54645, sorry, but I'm using & helping standard installs: simpler
[03:52] <adub> yes hostap,eth1,orinoco
[03:52] <cablop> crimsun, but there's no problem with kde programs, i have problems with gnome
[03:53] <adub> it tries to run but can't go into monitor mode
[03:53] <cablop> crimsun  maybe the session manager
[03:53] <taylor_> i need an answer fast how do i turn on SCSI emulation im tired of rippingcds at 0.6x how do i enable it
[03:53] <Toma-> Mordof, np
[03:53] <nickrud> teoti, I have no clue, really. I use visual bell, and no system sounds, personally
[03:53] <axiom> i'm receiving this error when running a configure: "checking for openssl... configure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library" i have openssl installed, any ideas?
[03:53] <bdawg543456> help?
[03:53] <taylor_> i need an answer fast how do i turn on SCSI emulation im tired of rippingcds at 0.6x how do i enable it
[03:53] <Mordof> Toma-, how do i tell my version of wine?
[03:54] <cablop> crimsun, gedit opened
[03:54] <nickrud> taylor_, first try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc (assuming hdc is your cdrom)
[03:54] <wastrel> taylor_:  you need kernel support for scsi emulation, when i did it i needed to compile a new kernel
[03:54] <cablop> crimsun, only one warning related to session manager
[03:54] <tristan_> does anyone know what directory contains the kernel source code?
[03:54] <bdawg543456> anyone?
[03:54] <cablop> crimsun, authentication refused
[03:54] <nickrud> TrickyPhillips, /usr/src/
[03:54] <bdawg543456> when i try to install ubuntu i get boot load failure
[03:54] <crimsun> adub: / cablop: I'm heading out, back in two hours
[03:54] <taylor_> that terminal command will enable it?
[03:54] <nickrud> tristan_, /usr/src
[03:54] <adub> crimsun k
[03:55] <cablop> oh
[03:55] <dle> Has anyone successfully upgraded today's USN stuff?
[03:55] <cablop> thankls a lot
[03:55] <DCCOLE> i have a hp 3200c scanner i want to use it in llinux
[03:55] <Toma-> Mordof, just run "wine"
[03:55] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8725       <---  crimsun and thanks btw
[03:55] <cablop> i think i'll reinstall the system and never install amsn again
[03:55] <DCCOLE> how do i set the scanner up
[03:55] <bdawg543456> when i try to install ubuntu i get boot load failure
[03:55] <wastrel> taylor_:  that command enables dma to the cd drive
[03:55] <tristan_> my /usr/src is empty
[03:55] <Toma-> Mordof, if you need the newest one, add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list
[03:55] <tristan_> can I install the kernel source there?
[03:56] <Frogzo1> tristan_: install the source pkg
[03:56] <tristan_> ok
[03:56] <Madraykin> I love the matrix screen saver ... looks so cool =)
[03:56] <DCCOLE> how do i set up a scanner
[03:56] <Frogzo1> !rss-glx
[03:56] <ubotu> rss-glx is, like, a package containing some fairly bling screensavers. Install the package, then run /usr/bin/rss-glx_install.pl
[03:56] <tristan_> sorry - I've been off linux for a couple month, I'm mad rusty :-P
[03:56] <wastrel> Madraykin:  i like the bouncing cows one
[03:56] <bdawg543456> What other linux is good for beginners?
[03:56] <nickrud> tristan_, then sudo-apt-get install linux-source-2.6
[03:56] <axiom> i'm receiving this error when running a configure: "checking for openssl... configure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library" i have openssl as well as libssl installed, any ideas?
[03:56] <Madraykin> bdawg543456: ubuntu! ... seriously.
[03:56] <nickrud> tristan_, 2.6.12 sorry
[03:56] <bdawg543456> when i try to install it
[03:56] <Syco54645> nickrud: that is fine, ill figure it out eventually
[03:56] <Madraykin> bdawg543456: I tried redhat, it was confusing then ubuntu
[03:57] <amphi> axiom: you have the libssl -dev package installed?
[03:57] <bdawg543456>  it says boot load failure
[03:57] <cablop> there's a differenced between "amsn_0.95-3.deb" and  "amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb"
[03:57] <axiom> amphi: nope....i'll give that a shot, thanks
[03:57] <cablop> ??
[03:57] <cablop> is there a differenced between "amsn_0.95-3.deb" and  "amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb"???
[03:57] <navreet> is mythtv busted in breezy?
[03:57] <bdawg543456> ubuntu
[03:57] <navreet> mythtv-backend:
[03:57] <navreet>   Depends: mythtv-common (=0.17-3) but 0.18.1-5 is to be installed
[03:57] <navreet>  Depends: libmyth-0.17  but it is not installable
[03:57] <navreet>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3) but it is not installable
[03:57] <navreet> oops
[03:57] <navreet> sorry
[03:57] <amphi> axiom: autoconf's messages leave a bit to be desired - if it can't find the headers, it says the lib is missing
[03:57] <mebaran151> what's a good router that does static ip and spi?
[03:57] <nickrud> cablop, are the sizes different? (obvious check)
[03:57] <mebaran151> just out of curiousity
[03:58] <DCCOLE> how do i set up a scanner
[03:58] <wastrel> what's spi?
[03:58] <DCCOLE> ?????????????/
[03:58] <bdawg543456> when i try to install ubuntu i get boot load failure
[03:58] <cablop> i mean can i use  	amsn_0.95-3.deb instead in ubuntu?
[03:58] <wastrel> DCCOLE:  usb scanner?  try sane
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> cablop: Probably ones's for Ubuntu and one for Debian.
[03:58] <DCCOLE> nope par
[03:58] <DCCOLE> perralel
[03:58] <Toma-> cablop, that package is fine...
[03:58] <cablop> yes, but ubuntu one is working bad
[03:58] <nickrud> cablop, you've run across a useful difference: if an ubuntu version is available, it is probably preferred
[03:58] <axiom> amphi: yea, i'm still somewhat new at the whole "compile package from source thing" in addition to being new to a debian based system, so i'm still learning all the ropes. thanks for the help
[03:58] <Toma-> cablop, it was built specifically for ubuntu, on a fresh ubuntu install.
[03:58] <teoti> arg there has to be a reason why its beeping like this
[03:59] <wastrel> DCCOLE:  maybe still sane but i dunno from parallel :] 
[03:59] <Toma-> cablop, its also been tested on numerous other ubuntu machines
[03:59] <DCCOLE> ok
[03:59] <wastrel> DCCOLE:  sane detects my usb scanner automatically
[03:59] <cablop> but my system crashed three times until using this ubuntu.deb
[03:59] <teoti> When is Hoary coming out?
[03:59] <cablop> change until word eith after
[03:59] <wastrel> teoti:  hoary is old, breezy is current
[03:59] <teoti> Dapper**
[03:59] <cablop> *with
[03:59] <teoti> lmao
[03:59] <wastrel> teoti:  4/20/06
[03:59] <teoti> ROFLCOPTER
[03:59] <DCCOLE> it says cant find devices
[04:00] <tristan_> what is a .bz2 file?  I know tar, gzip, zip, etc
[04:00] <mclamb> is it possible to set nautilus background transparent?
[04:00] <nickrud> oh, my birthday
[04:00] <teoti> 4/20 lol
[04:00] <nickrud> mclamb, no, unfortunately
[04:00] <nickrud> teoti, :)
[04:00] <teoti> so we can all get high and look at some crazy background they are going to apply
[04:00] <_jason> tristan_: it's like gzip, man bzip2
[04:00] <teoti> make us fall inlove with it
[04:00] <teoti> :-P
[04:00] <tristan_> thank you
[04:00] <cablop> ok, forgeting the amsn-damager theory
[04:00] <bdawg543456> can anyone in this room help me
[04:01] <cablop> may the updates has damaged my system?
[04:01] <nickrud> mclamb, the best you can do is not have nautilus draw the background (and then you loose the icons)
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Me neither.
[04:01] <cyphase> anyone have any suggestions?
[04:01] <teoti> I cannot figure out this beeeeeeep!!!! tonyyarusso any ideas?
[04:01] <DCCOLE> what if i need to install the device??For the scanner
[04:01] <Toma-> cablop, possibly. have you changed anything you shouldnt have?
[04:01] <mclamb> nickrud, ok thanks
[04:02] <cablop> mmm
[04:02] <Toma-> teoti, what beep?
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> teoti: What's it coming from?
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Well, wait, I mean what do you know anyway?
[04:02] <cablop> i had a stable installation before
[04:02] <cablop> three months
[04:02] <russell__> hi
[04:02] <teoti> why would my system beep on login? then play the login sound then beep when i input pw?
[04:02] <fangorious> man, waiting for paritions to resize and copy is boring
[04:02] <cablop> partition was reiserfs, and instaled using the original CD
[04:02] <teoti> It beeps right before I input user name
[04:03] <axiom> amphi: that worked, thanks a bunch
[04:03] <cablop> ok, i installed amsn, i installed amule
[04:03] <nickrud> fangorious, a little war & peace makes the time fly
[04:03] <Toma-> teoti, possibly a system error... check thru system.log for errors? or Xorg.0.log
[04:03] <fangorious> teoti: accessibility, to let blind users know it's ready
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Mine beeps when GDM loads too, not on pw though.
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Check in your GDM settings.
[04:03] <cablop> graphics damaged, but i know i installed firefox from dapper, and i damaged a lot of package dependencies
[04:03] <teoti> where are they?
[04:03] <cablop> then i decided to reinstall
[04:03] <nickrud> ah! accessiblity sounds like a good thing to look at teoti
[04:03] <fangorious> teoti; System->Administration->Login Screen Setup
[04:04] <bdawg543456> when i burn the install on the cd what options should i set in Nero?
[04:04] <nickrud> teoti, also, system->pref->accessibilty
[04:04] <Toma-> cablop, so, basically, you've screwed your system, now youre saying amsn breaks it? maybe... just maybe, youre the one that screwed it? :)
[04:04] <cablop> i used a DVD ubuntu instead, i downloaded it a moth ago
[04:04] <bdawg543456> when im in the cd iso
[04:04] <fangorious> when that beep first went into fedora you'd have though the users were getting cockpunched by their reactions to it
[04:04] <nickrud> teoti, arg, assistive
[04:04] <b1ind> do the ubuntu repositories have ftp equivalents?
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> bdawg543456: Just burn from ISO probably.  Haven't used Nero, but that's basically all there is to it.
[04:04] <b1ind> or are there any ftp mirrors?
[04:05] <bdawg543456> k finalize disc?
[04:05] <teoti> assitive is disabled
[04:05] <Toma-> b1ind, yeh, i get my stuff from an ftp mirror
[04:05] <phiber_optic> does anybody know when I ssh to a unix machine, how do i stay with my keyboard configuartions? Sicne when I ssh, some program on the remote host I am not able to press enter, backspace arrows
[04:05] <fangorious> b1ind: you can point your browser to the URL for any of the specified mirrors
[04:05] <cablop> let me continue explaining, i installed it from that dvd, i deleted open office and installed openoffice oppenoffice 2.0.0.2 from OpenOffice.org
[04:05] <teoti> i checked that lol
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> b1ind: I think all of the official mirrors have an ftp one.
[04:05] <teoti> im in login screen setup
[04:05] <teoti> what should i be looking for in here?
[04:05] <cablop> then i installed amsn 0.95-3.ubuntu
[04:05] <wastrel> teoti:  accessibility
[04:05] <b1ind> thanks guys, will experiment
[04:05] <teoti> uh huh
[04:06] <fangorious> b1ind: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:06] <fangorious> b1ind: lists a bunch of mirrors
[04:06] <cablop> then i can't run any grpahic aplication as diferent user in my session
[04:06] <teoti> Now what
[04:06] <b1ind> do they work as sources for apt?
[04:06] <teoti> Everything seems fine in there?
[04:06] <cablop> and cannot switch between oppened sessions, then i cant start a new one if one is already working
[04:06] <cablop> tha occurred at sundays night
[04:06] <Toma-> cablop, could you do that before updating oo?
[04:06] <fangorious> teoti: gdmconfig isn't coming up for me (probably because i'm running kdm) so i can't identify it right now
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> teoti: Login Screen Setup > Accessibility tab, uncheck some boxes.
[04:07] <teoti> why uncheck the boxes?
[04:07] <cablop> install amsn before OOo?
[04:07] <teoti> everything that needs to be check is checked?
[04:07] <cablop> mmm
[04:07] <Toma-> cablop, no, did the error happen after you installed OOo?
[04:07] <cablop> let me remember
[04:07] <teoti> and the sounds are fine
[04:08] <cablop> mmmmmmmm
[04:08] <cablop> maybe no
[04:08] <BigDaddy> ok, back in ubuntu
[04:08] <BigDaddy> the OS not the channel
[04:09] <cablop> then debian OOo files are not good for ubuntu?
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> teoti: I thought you didn't want to sounds?
[04:09] <Toma-> cablop, probably not.
[04:09] <cablop> mmm, but they work fine
[04:09] <cablop> the OOo
[04:09] <teoti> i dont want that beep that just recently started happening
[04:09] <cablop> mmm
[04:09] <teoti> where is system.log?
[04:09] <teoti> mabe i can find errors
[04:09] <Psi-Jack> How do I umount /dev, so I can copy the original underlying files before the tmpfs /dev mount?
[04:09] <BigDaddy> who was I talking to an hour ago?
[04:09] <fangorious> teoti: /var/log
[04:10] <BigDaddy> chris maybe?
[04:10] <teoti> how do i open log in terminal
[04:10] <teoti> im in /var
[04:10] <cablop> do you think if i uninstall OOo and recover last one, and reinstall something system must work again?
[04:10] <n000b> hi
[04:11] <tristan_> so in /usr/src I started to decompress the linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bzip2 file - but it's hung on the tar -x, and I don't think it's getting anywhere
[04:11] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. Okay.. Kubuntu has a rescue mode on the disc, correct?
[04:11] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: add -v, so it becomes -xv
[04:11] <teoti> i did ls i see log is in here
[04:11] <tristan_> ok, thanks
[04:11] <teoti> its blue
[04:11] <Toma-> cablop, who knows. when you start putting weird things in it, it behaves quite odd.
[04:11] <teoti> but i dont know how to open it
[04:11] <brian_> im new to installing c programs, how do i install rovclock?
[04:11] <wastrel> teoti:  it started recently?  maybe kernel beep if you upgraded kernel
[04:11] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: if that still hangs, its because you didn't specify it correctly, look at man tar to see the correct usages
[04:12] <nickrud> teoti, cd /var/log && less syslog
[04:12] <teoti> i havent upgraded kernel that i know of
[04:12] <Psi-Jack> Not to be rude or anything, but is this channel 90% brainless newbies? :)
[04:12] <n000b> how do you set an ntp server of choice to sync the clock on boot? i get failed on every boot trying with the default one :(
[04:12] <cablop> Toma, you say it's safe to install the ubuntu amsn
[04:12] <nickrud> Psi-Jack, I hope so, they need somewhere
[04:13] <Toma-> cablop, totally
[04:13] <Psi-Jack> nickrud: Eh?
[04:13] <cablop> mmm, the ubuntu amsn uses ubuntu human skin
[04:13] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: if maybe brainless, I hope they don't come with ignorance/etc
[04:13] <teoti> okay so what exactly in this log should i be looking for
[04:13] <BxL> could someone give me an unmodified source.list
[04:14] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: Heh. I occasionally ask even simple questions, and never get a single responce. It's sad.
[04:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell BxL about sources
[04:14] <xerophyte> i have inet --> [router 192.168.0.1]  --> [ 192.168.0.102 eth0 linux server  eth 1 192.168.1.1]  --> [192.168.1.2 labtop ]  from the laptop  i can connect to the linux server 192.168.1.1 and i can ping 192.168.0.102, but i could not ping 192.168.0.1 .. does anybody know why   iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE and echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:14] <catskul> any particular problems with upgrading to dapper ? can I mostly just replace "breezy" with "dapper" in my apt sources ?
[04:14] <wastrel> brian_:  it really depends on what revclock - do you have a url?
[04:14] <BxL> thanks _jason
[04:14] <teoti> Feb 15 13:29:29 localhost kernel: [ 6429.583988]  APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[04:14] <DeluxXx__> could someone take a look at that ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=706131#post706131
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: well not everyone is around, and not everyone can always help
[04:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell catskul about dapper
[04:14] <teoti> could that make it beep?
[04:14] <fangorious> Psi-Jack: it's not just you, happens to all of us. (still haven't figured out why I don't have shutdown/restart in my logout dialog)
[04:14] <kyo> I don't really like x-chat ... is bitchx more minimumistic?
[04:14] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: All times of the day, all times of the weak? :)
[04:14] <cablop> is it true that some ubuntu updates damage the system?
[04:15] <Toma-> cablop, nope
[04:15] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: Well, are you using kdm or gdm?
[04:15] <wastrel> kyo:  bitchx is console not gui
[04:15] <_jason> kyo: try irssi too
[04:15] <farous> kyo try irssi
[04:15] <n000b> never mind found it (/etc/default/ntpdate) guess need some sleep
[04:15] <kyo> wastrel, yes I want console
[04:15] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: bitchx-gtk. :)
[04:15] <kyo> w00t ...
[04:15] <fangorious> Psi-Jack: kdm
[04:15] <catskul> _jason, ubotu doesnt seem to be responding
[04:15] <kyo> !bitchx
[04:15] <ubotu> kyo: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:15] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: And you don't get the option to shutdown/restart?
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: thinking on the other side of the equation, its not always fun to be flooded with questions, and if you made a mistake, etc you have to cope with any loss that comes along with it
[04:15] <_jason> catskul: someone made ubotu forget about dapper :/, one sec
[04:15] <kyo> Hmm
[04:15] <catskul> !dapper
[04:15] <ubotu> catskul: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: imo, linux is *not* for the faint-hearted
[04:16] <teoti> Feb 15 16:16:16 localhost gconfd (rewt-9873): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" t
[04:16] <teoti> could that cause the beep
[04:16] <_jason> catskul: The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release,
[04:16] <_jason> due April 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are
[04:16] <kyo> So can I find bitchx in synaptic?
[04:16] <_jason> encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[04:16] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: Anytime I provide help, I provide GOOD help. I do not worry, that whatever I do provide, will be used in vein, and if it does, it's not my problem from there. :)
[04:16] <_jason> bah, sorry for that
[04:16] <fangorious> Psi-Jack: I can shutdown/restart from kdm. But once logged in (to gnome), after selecting System->Log out, there's no option to shutdown or restart
[04:16] <nickrud> teoti, no, those are syslog spam
[04:16] <b1ind> hey adub, you around?
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: heh
[04:16] <wastrel> kyo:  bitchx is in universe
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: that's what happens, when you choose one to become your main desktop manager, the other one loses functionality
[04:16] <teoti> nick what along the lines should i be looking for?
[04:16] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Scarey!
[04:16] <b1ind> irssi all the way! :p
[04:16] <Mordof>  /me loves fileshack dling
[04:17] <Mordof> grr, stupid spaces
[04:17] <nickrud> teoti, no freaking clue, honestly.
[04:17] <BigDaddy> nickrud - were you the one that told me me to use dpkg-reconfigure blah blah blah?
[04:17] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: I have gdm as default, I wanted to get KDE but synaptic asked which one do I prefer GDM or KDM, I chose GDM, and I inherently lost extra functions for KDE that used to be there
[04:17] <nickrud> BigDaddy, yeah
[04:17] <teoti> shit
[04:17] <fangorious> hatake_kakashi: hm, i'll have to try reverting back to gdm to see if that brings it back. sounds like a prime candidate for freedesktop.org standardisation
[04:17] <teoti> sh1t*
[04:17] <Psi-Jack> Welp. I guess I gotta finish the final steps of my HDD->HDD cp of Kubuntu, on the rescue mode of the install disc, since I can't umount /dev :)
[04:17] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: I doubt if it will help, but then again it doesn't hurt to tryt
[04:17] <BigDaddy> OK, well that didn't work, so I got p!ssed and killed Ubuntu. Now I have a have fresh installation.
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> s/tryt/try
[04:18] <tristan_> so I'm attempting to see the files in the .tar archive - by using tar -t lin...tar and it doesn't list anything
[04:18] <BigDaddy> I have only configured my internet connection to get on here
[04:18] <Bung> friend of mine is having trouble with write permissions on his external usb drive ... ive searched wiki/help dont see anything ... is there some kind of thing he has to do? sudo to write files?
[04:18] <BigDaddy> What would be the first thing you recommend I do? Video driver or mount HD's
[04:18] <catskul> _jason, the wiki suggests installing via CD... is it possible to do it via apt.sources change.... and in either case is it an upgrade... or overwrite ?
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> Bung: check mount permissions, check owner:group for those files, etc
[04:18] <fangorious> hatake_kakashi: well my wife uses kde, and she has shutdown/restart in her logout dialog, and my laptop uses gdm and i log into gnome, and i have it there (and kubuntu-desktop is also installed on the laptop)
[04:18] <nickrud> BigDaddy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:19] <nickrud> BigDaddy, do that next
[04:19] <gurlpleez> what's up
[04:19] <_jason> catskul: yes, but do you understand that dapper is a development version and will probably still break.  Are you comfortable having an unusable system for some days and fixing problems yourself?
[04:19] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: you have shutdown and restart on KDE whilst using GDM? I assume you are probably on breezy
[04:19] <Bung> hatake, ok ill give those a search, thanks
[04:19] <BigDaddy> no, is it true that I should log out of GNOME before restarting X?
[04:19] <BigDaddy> no=now
[04:19] <b1ind> If I started my install from server, is it possible that I'm missing some kernel options to allow me to get dri working?
[04:19] <gurlpleez> what are you talking about
[04:20] <nickrud> BigDaddy, yes, unless you're sure you won't kill a program with unsaved dta
[04:20] <nickrud> *data
[04:20] <fangorious> hatake_kakashi: no, using kdm, logging into kde, i have shutdown/restart. using kdm/gnome I don't. using gdm/gnome i do, haven't tried gdm/gnome
[04:20] <catskul> _jason yeah im aware and comfortable
[04:20] <BigDaddy> OK, I am doing that now. Forgive me if I do not respond quickly. at 800x600 not too much fits up here on the screen
[04:20] <fangorious> anyone know how to use parted to copy a partition? partition magic is crapping out on me
[04:21] <_jason> catskul: then yes you can just change breezy to dapper and upgrade is the same as to breezy from hoary
[04:21] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: yeah imo, those dm, have different hooks for each other, in terms of the way things are dealt, so you choose one and lose the functionality for the other imo
[04:21] <fangorious> hatake_kakashi: that makes sense. annoying, but it makes sense.
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: you probably didn't specify the the file, if that still hangs, add -v to it, so it becomes -tv foo.tar.. I assume its only a tarred archive?
[04:22] <tristan_> no, I tried that
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: yeah, well you're not the only one who have to deal with it :)
[04:22] <tristan_> it's a .tar.bz2 archive
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: try -jtv foo.tar.bz2
[04:23] <tristan_> am I not bunzip2'ing correctly?
[04:23] <tristan_> ok
[04:23] <tristan_> I will, thanks
[04:23] <catskul> _jason, can I trouble you for your sources.list... my current is full of extra crap
[04:23] <cablop> About OpenOfice.org, we know ubuntu breezy have a beta of OpenOffice.org 2, not the final, i want to update ti finall, how can we do it? there's a place with OpenOffice.org final for ubuntu???
[04:23] <Bung> i installed ubuntu on my friends laptop, and i didnt see a terminal shortcut in gnome... am i just blind?
[04:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell catskul about sources
[04:23] <bimberi> !ooo2
[04:23] <ubotu> To upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> tar probably can't list files if its not a tar archive. That is, having extra extension at the end of tar will probably make tar not understand the compressed files
[04:24] <nickrud> Bung, apps-accessories-terminal from the top menu
[04:24] <Bung> ah ok
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> I tried installing OpenBox from the repos, but it only loads a blue screen.  Eerily reminiscent of Windows if it weren't for Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
[04:24] <BigDaddy> nickrud - OT question. In Synaptic, the packages have 3 icons. A green square for installed and a white square and then a square with a star. What do those white squares mean?
[04:24] <nickrud> mc is pretty nice for looking inside various tar files
[04:24] <hatake_kakashi> Green for installed, white is not installed
[04:25] <_jason> catskul: make sure you have the 'ubuntu-desktop' and 'ubuntu-base' package installed
[04:25] <lightstar> tonyyarusso, have u tried fluxbox?
[04:25] <bimberi> BigDaddy: Help -> Icon Legend
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> lightstar: Yes.  I'm trying to check out a bunch, and I'm just wondering why this one doesn't work.
[04:25] <nickrud> BigDaddy, had to look: not installed :)
[04:25] <BigDaddy> aahh. Thank you bimberi
[04:25] <cablop> ubotu, do you know if i can download all the Ubuntu OpenOffice files? i need to install them to a lot of machines and we cannot use internet to do it
[04:25] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, cablop
[04:25] <bimberi> BigDaddy: yw :)
[04:25] <tristan_> no, the tar -jtv foo.tar.bz2 is not working
[04:25] <lightstar> tonyyarusso, openbox in my opinion is simplistic..i had 2 use fbpanel just 2 get a panel 2monitor my things ezily
[04:25] <catskul> _jason, thanks
[04:26] <fangorious> cablop: ubotu is a bot
[04:26] <cablop> fangorious, what's a bot? what's a bot?
[04:26] <_jason> catskul: a machine, 'robot'
[04:26] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8725       <--------  im getting that make error trying to patch the orinoco classic gold drivers
[04:26] <nickrud> !me
[04:27] <ubotu> nickrud: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:27] <BigDaddy> OK - Question on step 11. "#
[04:27] <BigDaddy> Once the search is complete find linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-686 if you are running the 686 kernel) in the list and mark it for installation the same way as before.
[04:27] <BigDaddy> "
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> cablop: A perl script sitting in the room to respond in certain ways.
[04:27] <BigDaddy> how do I know which kernel I have?
[04:27] <b1ind> uname -a
[04:27] <nickrud> BigDaddy, uname -r
[04:27] <BigDaddy> I have an AMD Athlon64 3500
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell cablop about yourself
[04:27] <nickrud> BigDaddy, in a terminal, type uname -r
[04:27] <catskul> Here Goes !
[04:28] <cablop> ubotu it's not human!
[04:28] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cablop
[04:28] <tristan_> ls
[04:28] <BigDaddy> can I have a terminal open with Synaptic open?
[04:28] <tristan_> lol, sorry
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> cablop: Correct.
[04:28] <nickrud> BigDaddy, yes, you just can't use apt-get while synaptic is open
[04:28] <cablop> ubotu: who are you?
[04:28] <bimberi> ubotu tell cablop about yourself
[04:28] <ubotu> cablop: what are you talking about?
[04:29] <cablop> ubotu: upgrade OpenOffice 2 to final version
[04:29] <ubotu> cablop: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <hatake_kakashi> ubotu is a bot :P
[04:29] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <BigDaddy> nickrud - this is what I got - 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> cablop: It's not that smart.  Perl script, not R2D2.
[04:29] <farous> tonyyarusso: :)
[04:29] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: better than nothing
[04:29] <teoti> Alright just tried something need to reboot to see if it wrked :-D brb with confirmations.
[04:30] <cablop> :( but i remeber another robot three years ago able to talk about itself and a lot of things
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi: For sure.  But doesn't respond well to complete sentences.
[04:30] <nickrud> BigDaddy, so try linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic (I'm not on a 64bit, so that's a guess for the exact name)
[04:30] <cablop> ubotu: how to update OpenOffice?
[04:30] <spazzz> Question... Is there any huge difference between MySQL 4.0 and MySQL 4.1?
[04:30] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cablop
[04:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell cablop about ooo2
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> !tell cablop about ooo2
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> heh nice
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: ah well, better than copying and pasting from sites for simple little queries :)
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi: Yep.
[04:32] <cablop> ubotu was nice but not smart
[04:32] <ubotu> cablop: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:32] <cablop> nice
[04:32] <nickrud> !botsnack
[04:32] <ubotu> thanks nickrud :)
[04:32] <nickrud> he deserves it
[04:32] <cablop> but ubotu gave me the right url
[04:33] <tristan_> is there any other program that will decompress a .tar file?  (aside from tar)
[04:33] <spazzz> Does anyone know anything about MySQL?
[04:33] <_jason> tristan_: why...
[04:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell spazzz about anyone
[04:33] <rewt_> WoooorkEDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:33] <tristan_> no matter what I do, I get no response from tar when decompressing this
[04:33] <phiber_optic> does any know how to ssh to a remote desktop an keep my keyboard configurations, since when I remote desktop to a place my enter and backspace keys are disabled...
[04:33] <rewt_> No more beepy beepy.
[04:33] <rewt_> ^_^
[04:33] <_jason> tristan_: what command are you using
[04:34] <tristan_> I'm trying tar -tv foo.tar just to see if it's corrupted
[04:34] <tristan_> that hangs
[04:34] <tristan_> tar -x hangs
[04:34] <tristan_> tar -xv hangs
[04:34] <spazzz> _Jason.. if you noticed.. I did and no one answered
[04:34] <dle> tristan - try adding an f
[04:34] <tristan_> I've tried tar -xf
[04:34] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: the file is actually .tar? not .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 or .tar.bzip2 or you didn't rename the extension?
[04:34] <_jason> spazzz: then either no one knows or you got lost in the scroll, just wait a bit and repeat or try the forums and wiki while you wait
[04:34] <tristan_> no, the original file was a foo.tar.bz2
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> tristan_: How'd you take off the bz2?
[04:35] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: then its supposed to be -jxf or -jxvf
[04:35] <tristan_> so I used bunzip2 -t foo.tar.bz2 to test its integrity
[04:35] <_jason> tristan_: then you would do tar jxvf file.tar.bz2
[04:35] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: mv foo.tar.bz2 foo.tar
[04:35] <tristan_> I'll try it, but I think that hung last time I gave it a whirl
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi: That would be an issue then, yep.
[04:36] <bdawg543456> Someone help me
[04:36] <bdawg543456> please
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> !helpme
[04:36] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:36] <bdawg543456> k
[04:36] <bdawg543456> im at the splsh screen
[04:36] <rewt_> Well if anyone has a beep on startup, the fix isto edit your pcmcia config and turn quiet mode on. :)
[04:36] <bdawg543456> trying to install
[04:36] <hatake_kakashi> renaming it doesn't help tristan_, if its .tar.bz2 and you renamed it to .tar it would fail to work because it a compressed with another program and not by tar
[04:36] <rewt_> it ws just a notification beep saying it found a pcmcia card
[04:36] <bdawg543456> and i press enter for default installation and i get a boot error
[04:36] <hatake_kakashi> s/it/its
[04:36] <tristan_> I didn't remane it
[04:37] <yoink23> hi, ive followed the wiki regarding getting AAC audio support, but I'm still not getting it (dapper/rythmbox/gstreamer)
[04:37] <Mordof> booo! warcraft 3 isnt working right :S
[04:37] <BigDaddy> OK, I did everything to the letter. I am going to log off, then press ctrl+alt+backspace.
[04:37] <tristan_> I used bunzip2 to decompress it once, then tried tar to do the second decompress, is that not a valid option?
[04:37] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: then simply put, -xf or -xvf would not work because tar assumes that file is .tar not .tar.bz2, etc
[04:37] <tristan_> I've done that with foo.tar.gz files
[04:37] <bdawg543456> any ideas?
[04:37] <nickrud> BigDaddy, luck
[04:37] <BigDaddy> That should do it right? I should be able to change my resolution to what I have under windows?
[04:37] <spz> blah
[04:37] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: well, you can do that, but tar also allows you to decompress and extract on the fly
[04:37] <tristan_> but gunzip2 renames the new decompressed file
[04:38] <spz> anybody: am I visible?
[04:38] <tristan_> yeah, I'm gonna give that a shot
[04:38] <nickrud> BigDaddy, that will get you one step further, you may need to do another
[04:38] <nickrud> !tell BigDaddy about fixres
[04:38] <BigDaddy> lol, in that case, I'll see you in a minute
[04:38] <taylor_> if i just enabled scsi emulation through a terminal do i have to restart my computer for it to take effect
[04:38] <nickrud> BigDaddy, nearly everyone gets in one, some have to go one more stemp
[04:38] <nickrud> *step
[04:38] <hatake_kakashi> for gzip, its tar -zxvf foo.tar.gz.. for bzip2, its tar -jxvf foo.tar.bz2
[04:38] <bdawg543456> When i try to install ubuntu  with default installation i get a boot error any ideas?
[04:38] <tristan_> ok, so I tried tar -jxvf foo.tar.bz2 and I get the following: linux-source-2.6.12/Documentation/vm/balance
[04:38] <tristan_> tar: linux-source-2.6.12/Documentation/vm/balance: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:39] <taylor_> if i just enabled scsi emulation through a terminal do i have to restart my computer for it to take effect
[04:39] <BigDaddy> I bookmarked it. BBL
[04:39] <wastrel> it's chilly in my apartment
[04:39] <tristan_> I get that error for every file in the archive
[04:39] <taylor_> if i just enabled scsi emulation through a terminal do i have to restart my computer for it to take effect
[04:40] <snoozix> hi. is there a of installing the high performance liquid style (kde) on breezy badger?
[04:40] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: are you trying to extract a certain file/directory out of tar.bzip2 file or are you trying to extract the tar.bzip2 file within another archive that is also compressed/tarred?
[04:40] <tristan_> I got it
[04:40] <tristan_> I needed sudo :-P
[04:40] <tristan_> hot damn
[04:40] <taylor_> if i just enabled scsi emulation through a terminal do i have to restart my computer for it to take effect
[04:40] <tristan_> anwyay - thanks for your patience, and all the help
[04:40] <spz2> hi
[04:40] <nickrud> taylor_, that would probably be a good check for further functionality, yes :)
[04:40] <zebraFusion> I need some help
[04:40] <taylor_> o ok...im kinda slow now it seems to obvious...
[04:40] <ilya> hi
[04:41] <zebraFusion> when I access my VNC server through the network (xvncviewer 192.168.2.2 for my desktop) it prompts me for the password and works perfectly
[04:41] <spz2> I'm having a problem:  I installed XP after Ubuntu on a different partition, and now I cant boot linux... no choices at the bootloader
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> bdawg543456: set verbose settings at boot, via F6 I think when you boot the disc up, afterwards check via Alt+F3 and Alt+F4
[04:41] <zebraFusion> however, when i try to connect from another network
[04:41] <zebraFusion> it fails to connect
[04:41] <_jason> !enter
[04:41] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:41] <bdawg543456> what
[04:41] <brandon_> spz2: install grub
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> !tell spz2 about grub
[04:41] <zebraFusion> does anyone know what ports I'd have to open up to allow the vnc connection
[04:41] <_jason> zebraFusion: 5900
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> spz2: It's a Live CD / chroot situation.
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> zebraFusion: cat /proc/services| grep vnc
[04:41] <Eleaf> hmm
[04:41] <yoink23> hi, ive followed the wiki regarding getting AAC audio support, but I'm still not getting it (dapper/rythmbox/gstreamer)
[04:41] <lightstar> zebraFusion, 5900
[04:41] <rewt_> how do i find out what kind of integrated wireless card I have?
[04:42] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: lspci
[04:42] <spz2> install grub how
[04:42] <spz2> I cant boot linux
[04:42] <nickrud> spz2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:42] <spz2> hah
[04:42] <spz2> ok
[04:42] <bdawg543456> hatake_kakashi waht do u mean?
[04:42] <carpediem> yoink23: are these DRM encoded AAC?   Because I don't think you can get them to work on Linux.
[04:43] <zebraFusion> hatake_kakashi, no sound directory
[04:43] <hatake_kakashi> spz2: you probably have multiple drives and the grub installed on another hard disk instead of the one you thought of, maybe unplug those other hard disks temporarily and reinstall again. I had that problem before where I have 3 hard disks
[04:43] <nickrud> carpediem, you're right about drm, no way
[04:43] <zebraFusion> hatake_kakashi, it works on my local connection but I think my firewall is blocking it
[04:43] <rewt_> 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[04:43] <zebraFusion> even though I have port 5900 unblocked
[04:43] <rewt_> That what im supposed to be looking for?
[04:43] <cablop> thanks a lot people, i must go now
[04:44] <cablop> have a nice time :)
[04:44] <nickrud> hatake_kakashi, windows overwrote the hda mbr for him, the wiki will walk him through a fix
[04:44] <cablop> ciao
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi: I think spz2 just overwrote the MBR b/c of the Windows install, so needs to write grub back to it.
[04:44] <rewt_> :-P jk
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> bdawg543456: when you boot the cdrom, you get the boot menu. press F5 or F6 until you can see how to set verbose settings. type those in along with the words linux at the start. It should show more verbose information
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> zebraFusion: well, edit your firewall settings
[04:44] <carpediem> yoink23: if so, your best option is to install SharpMusique, and redownload everything from ITMS as non-DRM AAC
[04:44] <spz2> yeah thats all it is
[04:44] <romeojj> I have a general question about dependencies. I mean say I have the base system installed and all up-to-date and I download a package that requires a version of a library that is different than the one I have installed. How do I install another version while keeping the original version so all of my other apps can use it and run happily?
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> nickrud: probably
[04:44] <spz2> ill reinstall grub with the install CD
[04:44] <yoink23> carpediem: no, they arent drm'd...i just played them in breezy, then i did a fresh install of dapper and dont know how to get support back
[04:44] <wastrel> hi
[04:44] <rewt_> hatake_kakashi, 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[04:44] <rewt_>  this what im looking for ?
[04:45] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: hmm well I was assuming totally full on linux install with no dualboot, etc
[04:45] <FliesLikeALap> heh nickrud  the damned windows boot disk overwrote my MBR without prompting me, i had to fix it the other day
[04:45] <spz2> im having another serious prob with breezy: cant get X to run
[04:45] <spz2> think its due to my graphics card unsupported
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi: Nah, broke it after putting XP on afterwards.
[04:45] <spz2> ATI Radeon X1300
[04:45] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: seems like it, is there any other network, ethernet controller you have?
[04:45] <brandon_> x1300 wouldn't affect x
[04:45] <nickrud> romeojj, not easily, if you mean a library from an outside repository
[04:45] <rewt_> im using my orinoco classic gold bc i only run wirelss
[04:45] <spz2> i should at least get 2d right?
[04:45] <yoink23> carpediem: i assume they are aac...they have .m4a extensions
[04:45] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: heh, its supposed to be the other way round, seems like spz2 needs to get livecd to fix that up again
[04:45] <carpediem> yoink23: do you have faad and libfaad installed
[04:45] <rewt_> but i want to try to get my internal working bc of its better range
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> hatake_kakashi: Could be, yeah.
[04:46] <brandon_> ITS NOT THE GFX CARD SPZ, it might be a faulty install of x
[04:46] <spz2> its the default install.... are there any scripts to config X?
[04:46] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: look for broadcom driver for linux, that may help
[04:46] <zebraFusion> Port 5900 is unblocked on my router but it still is not connecting
[04:46] <brandon_> hmm...
[04:46] <bdawg543456> Ok when i try to install ubuntu i get a error i dont know whats wrong?
[04:46] <carpediem> yoink23: and libmp4v2-0
[04:47] <brandon_> have you installed any packages lately...??
[04:47] <brandon_> what error bdawg?
[04:47] <heliotrope> is there a good c++ compiler for ubuntu?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> spz2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does a lot of that, otherwise manually editing your xorg.conf.
[04:47] <rage`> Hey guys, has anyone had trouble with madwifi drivers?
[04:47] <yoink23> carpediem: libfaad2-0 and faad, yes
[04:47] <bdawg543456> lemme see hold on ill run it
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: if there is none, you may have to use ndiswrapper, kinda like running windows drivers through wine to get it translated onto linux. To go about on that, I'm not too sure exactly
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: sudo apt-get install build-essential  (gcc)
[04:47] <tristan_> so when a program asks for the linux source directory - should I give it /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12?
[04:47] <lightstar> heliotrope, are you asking bout a editor or just the compiler?
[04:47] <bdawg543456> brandon_  iget isolinux disk error 80
[04:47] <X-GueSt> is there anyway to change keyboard layout on xorg ?
[04:47] <BigDaddy> nickrud - OK, I am on that link you just gave me. I now have a xserver configuration window up
[04:47] <X-GueSt> to gnome or terminal .. everything
[04:47] <X-GueSt> 1layout 4 everthing
[04:48] <heliotrope> lightstar, im not sure, something like netbeans or .net for windows
[04:48] <brandon_> hmm...what part of the install gives you this error bdawg?
[04:48] <spz2> tony: ok. I'll try that
[04:48] <yoink23> carpediem: yeah and the other one
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: if you put it there, yes
[04:48] <bdawg543456> the beginning
[04:48] <cablop> hello again
[04:48] <X-GueSt> I change my keyboard layout on gnome but it doesnt seem to work
[04:48] <bdawg543456>  default install
[04:48] <X-GueSt> :|
[04:48] <romeojj> well, just another version of a library, say a newer version that isn't in the repositories
[04:48] <spz2> does anybody recommend metacity or fluxbox?  all I've tried are GDM and KDE
[04:48] <willmore> does a default install just install ubuntu-base? or more?
[04:48] <carpediem> yoink23: and gstreamer-0.8-faad?
[04:48] <romeojj> s it possible to have two or more different versions of the same libraries running at the same time
[04:48] <tristan_> I did, but I'm not sure if it's looking for specific source files
[04:48] <brandon_> maybe reburning the iso may help
[04:48] <yoink23> carpediem: yes
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> bdawg543456: you may need to upgrade your bios, your bios cannot read certain bootable cds
[04:48] <lightstar> heliotrope, gcc comes with a g++compiler for c++, if you're looking for a editor you can use SciTe or anjuta
[04:48] <nickrud> BigDaddy, the key is setting the HorizSync and VertRefresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to match your monitor
[04:48] <tristan_> are source files just the .C files
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> spz2: Fluxbox is great as a light one.
[04:48] <tristan_> ?
[04:48] <carpediem> yoink23: which media player were you using again?
[04:48] <bdawg543456> really?
[04:48] <lightstar> heliotrope, there is oso kdevelop but i havent used it extensively
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> tristan_: no, there is .h and various other bits and pieces
[04:49] <nickrud> BigDaddy, that fixres link walks you through that
[04:49] <cablop> i have error in my ubuntu, but i don't want to have them again, and i don't want to try fixing them, so i'll make some questions in order to avoid vcommiting mistakes again
[04:49] <amphi> tristan_: source files of what?
[04:49] <brandon_> try flashing the bios, yeah.
[04:49] <yoink23> carpediem: rhthmbox...it says the are not audio streams...and yet ive played them before
[04:49] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso i got an error
[04:49] <bdawg543456> to waht
[04:49] <tristan_> the linux kernel
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: What was it?
[04:49] <bdawg543456>  i dont knowwaht one to get
[04:49] <FlannelKing> heliotrope, you can also look into eclipse (with cdt package) for an IDE
[04:49] <joeee> bdawg543456 is using the install cd from the ubuntu site, he gets to the splash screen then he chooses the default install options, then he gets an error
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> bdawg543456: I had that case happening with my old mobo, around 8 years old, and it cannot boot most recently created cds
[04:49] <carpediem> yoink23: sec, let me see if rhythmbox will play my m4a files.  I usually use other stuff.
[04:49] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso, could not open lock file
[04:49] <tristan_> "directory containing the linux source code"
[04:49] <amphi> tristan_: c and c header (.h) files mostly, with a small bit of architecture specific assembler
[04:49] <bdawg543456> so where can i get a bios upgrade
[04:49] <rewt_> i found this.......
[04:49] <rewt_> Network Card
[04:49] <rewt_> Integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
[04:49] <rewt_> Wireless Connectivity
[04:49] <rewt_> 54g 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM* / SpeedBooster and BroadRange support
[04:49] <tristan_> ok
[04:49] <yoink23> carpediem: oh, perhaps its the player that is the limitation
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> joeee: if that's true, then I wouldn't have a clue.. maybe you have a buggy mobo?
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: Close Synaptic first.
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> bdawg543456: from your motherboard's website of course
[04:50] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso, how do i do that? i don't think it's open
[04:50] <brandon_> What is your pc manufacturer bdawg?
[04:50] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso, sorry i just installed ubunto last night
[04:50] <carpediem> yoink23: probably not, if gstreamer can support it, rhythmbox should...but I want to be sure.
[04:50] <BigDaddy> nickrud - the thing that has me confused is that I can choose nv or nvidia. this isn't addressed in the guide
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> joeee: err s/you/he
[04:50] <snoozix> did anyone install ubuntu as a "server"? (choosing boot argument server at install startup)?
[04:50] <cablop> some of you said installing OpenOffice.org 2.0.0.2 from OpenOffice.org was a bad idea, is it true?
[04:50] <brandon_> Nope.
[04:50] <brandon_> Installed fine for me.
[04:50] <bdawg543456> i think i have a asus
[04:50] <nickrud> BigDaddy, I'm not sure where you're at, but nvidia is the 3d capable driver
[04:50] <brandon_> Oooh...asus....
[04:50] <spz2> does anybody have to unplug their computer to get it to restart?  my emachine d6417 wont reboot with alt+ctrl+del under linux.  it'll terminate all procs but then the fans speed up and the bios doesnt boot up.. just blank....
[04:51] <spz2> havent tried to reboot with a fully-functional install yet though
[04:51] <Eleaf> hm
[04:51] <joeee> bdawg543456: You could try SuSE, it's supposed to be a good beginners distro also
[04:51] <brandon_> http://www.asus.com/
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: Ah, 'k.  Was assuming it was.  Do you have package updates in process in the background perhaps?
[04:51] <hatake_kakashi> brandon_: Asus isn't that great, I had two of their mobos (and currently I'm on the second one). The Asus mobo PS/2 ports break very easily
[04:51] <rewt_> So what would i look up to find a driver?
[04:51] <amphi> spz2: hard to say - could be broken acpi
[04:51] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso, i shouldn't i dont know how to use anything yet
[04:51] <bdawg543456> thank you
[04:51] <bdawg543456> all
[04:51] <nickrud> spz2, I've had my emachine lock up like that, yeah. Got a different one
[04:51] <cablop> wich is better file system for ubuntu? ext3 or reiserfs? any other?
[04:52] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: you can surf the net with wired right?
[04:52] <cablop> will ext2 works well?
[04:52] <spz2> nick: hw problem?  only does it under linux
[04:52] <rewt_> yea i think i found something :)
[04:52] <brandon_> ext3 works pretty well.
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: True, but if you had the little red circle with the arrow show up, it could be going on.  I'm thinking it's likely you're still upgrading because it's new off the disk.
[04:52] <amphi> carpediem: reiser is very fast, but many people consider it unreliable - ext3 is pretty tried and true (not that I use either ;)
[04:52] <hatake_kakashi> cablop: ext3 is ext2 with journalling, ext2 has single filesize limitations, similar to that of fat32
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: Check your running processes for either synaptic or apt.
[04:52] <brandon_> Go with ext3 if your pc is somewhat newer, ext2 works better for older pc's.
[04:52] <spz2> amphi:  what does acpi do?  is it optional?
[04:52] <nickrud> spz2, kernel/hardware issues, I figured
[04:53] <amphi> cablop: reiser is very fast, but many people consider it unreliable - ext3 is pretty tried and true (not that I use either ;)
[04:53] <cablop> so ext3 is the best option?
[04:53] <amphi> sorry, carpediem - tab completion
[04:53] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso, nope :\
[04:53] <brandon_> I believe so cablop.
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> reiserfs is fast for small single files, but bad for big chunks like iso images for example
[04:53] <amphi> cablop: if you have to ask, I'd say yes
[04:53] <brandon_> I use it on all my *nix machines.
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: Ookay..
[04:53] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso, i have an update notifier but it's sleeping
[04:53] <adub> can someone help me get orinoco patch drivers to build properly i keep getting an  error on the make command
[04:53] <carpediem> amphi: I figured, np
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> I use different ones, I have reiserfs for /tmp, jfs for /home, xfs for / and ext3 for /boot
[04:54] <spz2> one more thing i was thinking about trying... anybody use VMWare for Ubuntu under windows?
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> adub: as in what sort of error?
[04:54] <kyo> does ubuntu comes with KDE in the respitory?
[04:54] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: heh - how does jfs seem? I have xfs here ATM
[04:54] <nmstryoda> spz2, yes
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> kyo: both KDE and Gnome are in the repos
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: As it should be....
[04:54] <brandon_> spz2, its a pain in the ass to set up, just use grub.....
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: dunno, I think its ok, to be frank, I never really tried to do much nor did I fully understand jfs
[04:55] <nmstryoda> spz2, you can download the VMware player for Windows or Linux and the "BrowserAppliance" whcih is just ubuntu scaled down
[04:55] <BigDaddy> OK, how do I find out the bus identifier of my video card?
[04:55] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso: like i said, i've never seen any of this before, its my first day without windows
[04:55] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8725       <--------  im getting that make error trying to patch the orinoco classic gold drivers
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know what could prevent apt-get acquiring a lock if synaptic nor another apt are running??
[04:55] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso, sorry
[04:55] <spz2> is it buggy?
[04:55] <adub> hatake_kakashi there is the link to the error
[04:55] <kyo> hatake_kakashi, so how would I switch to KDE? I'm using gnome right now
[04:55] <cablop> somebody knows any issue related to install debian openoffice into ubuntu?
[04:55] <_jason> tonyyarusso: update-manager
[04:55] <hatake_kakashi> tonyyarusso: lsof| grep apt
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> _jason: That's sleeping.
[04:55] <brandon_> cablop: use automatix
[04:55] <hatake_kakashi> kyo: there is guide on the kubuntu.org website
[04:55] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: xfs seems nice, I run it on my laptop; I can get the hd to spin down for 10 minutes at a time with some /proc tweaking
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[04:55] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:55] <brandon_> it automatically install openoffice and many other programs
[04:55] <Hysty> tonyyarusso: maybe they havent quite unlocked from previous use?
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> heliotrope: See hatake_kakashi's.
[04:56] <amphi> cablop: I would not do that
[04:56] <kyo> ok gret
[04:56] <kyo> *great
[04:56] <brandon_> make sure you root "sudo"
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> Hysty: Can you check/force tht?
[04:56] <snoozix> did anyone here just figure out how to get the old gtk2 file selection dialogs?
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> *that
[04:56] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:56] <heliotrope> tonyyarusso ok
[04:56] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: yeah but the great pitfall afaik with xfs is that it extensively uses RAM, so if you copy something big and half way through, the power cuts out, I think you lose your data
[04:56] <yoink23> carpediem: is rhythmbox playing .m4a's for you?
[04:56] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS W00T
[04:56] <heliotrope> hatake_kakashi, hi can you help me install gpp
[04:56] <spz2> im gonna give grub-install a go, maybe try the x-config scripts while I'm at it....
[04:56] <spz2> thanks for the help.
[04:56] <cablop> what's automatix?
[04:56] <hatake_kakashi> adub: you're probably missing build-essential
[04:57] <hatake_kakashi> !tell cablop about automatix
[04:57] <carpediem> yoink23: hmm, I can't get rhythmbox to even import the file.  But Totem(xine here) and Amarok(using GStreamer) play it fine.
[04:57] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: it's not as ram-heavy as it was, and I think the power loss disaster bug was fixed a while ago
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS WOOT
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <Psi-Jack> I'm very displeased with Ubuntu! There's NOT even a rescue mode option on the install disc. Quite upsetting!
[04:57] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: cool that sounds nice
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> !tell cablop about automatix
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <Psi-Jack> brandon_: Get lost.
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> !ops
[04:57] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:57] <Hysty> cablop: a automatic installation script that installs common things
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <hatake_kakashi> !op
[04:57] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:57] <adub> no its not build-essential
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <_jason> brandon_: stop now
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <fabbione> brandon_: stop it
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <carpediem> why do we not have any admins here?
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <_jason> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack: There is too a rescue option on the install disk
[04:57] <hatake_kakashi> carpediem: we do
[04:57] <amphi> !ops brandon_ flooding
[04:57] <heliotrope> brandon_: cmon man not cool
[04:57] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, amphi
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:57] <cablop> mmm
[04:57] <brandon_> BUTTSECKS
[04:58] <yoink23> carpediem: hmm...yeah, it wouldnt import for me either...
[04:58] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Where? F1-F10 showed nothing.
[04:58] <cablop> is there an issue related tto installing amsn from amsn website?
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack: Type rescue at the prompt
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> !amsn
[04:58] <ubotu> methinks amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[04:58] <vars> :q
[04:58] <yoink23> carpediem: maybe ill try out some other players now anyway
[04:58] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: I did. It went through the normal installation startup.
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Guess not.
[04:58] <amphi> vars: you irc in vim?
[04:58] <keherman_> hey how is everyone?!
[04:58] <carpediem> yoink23: let me try banshee...its very similar to rhythbox if that's the kind of player you like
[04:58] <cablop> !OO.o
[04:58] <ubotu> cablop: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:58] <cablop> !OOo
[04:58] <ubotu> cablop: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack: I'm not sure exactly how it work, but it's there..should get you to a root prompt I think.
[04:59] <cablop> !amsn
[04:59] <ubotu> amsn is, like, at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[04:59] <Psi-Jack> fabbione: brandon_ n=brandon ip68-102-110-241.ks.ok.cox.net * brandon
[04:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell cablop about msg the bot
[04:59] <knowledge_> guys, I'm trying to do a chmod -x <file> but when I try to run it it says permission denied...anyone know why?
[04:59] <carpediem> yoink23: yeah, Banshee plays it fine.  Banshee is very similar to Rhythmbox.
[04:59] <fabbione> Psi-Jack: i was only waiting for him to rejoin
[04:59] <hatake_kakashi> knowledge_: maybe you are not the owner or under the same group for that file
[05:00] <meekrok> hey, is this a help channel, or could someone point me to one?
[05:00] <carpediem> yoink23: in my opinion, Amarok is the best player, but it depends on KDElibs, which you may not like.
[05:00] <knowledge_> hatake_kakashi, how would I check that?
[05:00] <Xenguy> knowledge_: you don't have permission :-)  So use 'sudo'
[05:00] <_jason> meekrok: yep, this is it.  Just ask a question
[05:00] <hatake_kakashi> knowledge_: ls -l <filname>
[05:00] <amphi> knowledge_: what is the first line of the file?
[05:00] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Their really is no special "rescue" mode. It starts up, does it's whole detecting hardware thing, laods up the network via dhcp, and asks what hostname to use. From there, you can use the tty2, but, still.
[05:00] <knowledge_> Xenguy, I did
[05:00] <Psi-Jack> fabbione: I see. I did a /whowas on him. :)
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack: What are you hoping to see?
[05:00] <yoink23> carpediem: yeah ive tried amarok, not sure why i stopped using it, but anyway...thanks SO MUCH for the help
[05:00] <Xenguy> knowledge_: root should be able to change any file permission; now you need to be more specific
[05:00] <carpediem> yoink23: np
[05:00] <meekrok> hey, where could i go to get help?
[05:00] <cablop> It's safe to install ams 0.95-3.ubuntu.deb instead the breezy one?
[05:00] <hatake_kakashi> knowledge_: sudo should be able to change it, if sudo can't, either you didn't execute it properly or you have SELinux, etc on
[05:01] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Something a LITTLE more useful than busybox's minimal utility set, for one.
[05:01] <Xenguy> knowledge_: if necessary use a pastebin
[05:01] <_jason> meekrok: here, just ask your question
[05:01] <instabin> hello
[05:01] <knowledge_> does that make a difference?
[05:01] <instabin> can i get some help trying to open rar files
[05:01] <Xenguy> knowledge_: doubtless it does
[05:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell instabin about rar
[05:01] <meekrok> what would be a common reason why a recently installed ubuntu woulndt be able to hear sound from google video?
[05:01] <amphi> knowledge_: quite possible, it might be a ro filesystem
[05:01] <hatake_kakashi> knowledge_: on the third and forth column of ls -l you will see the username:group that the file belongs to
[05:02] <_jason> meekrok: flash is dumb and doesn't know how to use the sound server properly, most likely
[05:02] <cablop> instabin, just instal rar $ apt-get install rar and ubuntu archiver do the rest
[05:02] <instabin> I have all ready been there the muliuniv does not have the unarar-nonfree
[05:02] <_jason> instabin: it does, check that you have multiverse
[05:03] <knowledge_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls -l flasher
[05:03] <knowledge_> -rw-------  1 ubuntu ubuntu 645032 2006-02-16 21:20 flasher
[05:03] <cablop> instabin, the command is: $ sudo apt-get install rar
[05:03] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[05:03] <instabin> cablop, Package rar has no installation candidate
[05:03] <knowledge_> ohhhhh.....maybe I need to do chown?
[05:03] <cablop> then you can unrar and modify rar files
[05:03] <_jason> meekrok: are you using esd?  (check by going to system > preferences > multimedia systems selector
[05:03] <DCCOLE> how do i use a .tar.bz2
[05:03] <hatake_kakashi> knowledge_: no
[05:03] <knowledge_> aha
[05:03] <cablop> but i installed it from multiverse repository
[05:03] <meekrok> no, ALSA
[05:03] <_jason> DCCOLE: what are you tring to install?
[05:04] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: I was trying to copy my hde# to hdg#, making a partition-modified copy of my Kubuntu installation, so I could prevent having to re-install from scratch.
[05:04] <hatake_kakashi> you are logged in under ubuntu yourself anyway
[05:04] <instabin> cablope wich one
[05:04] <cablop> open Synaptic, go to options then repositoryes edit breeze binay and add multiverse to available  sections
[05:04] <_jason> meekrok: then install the package 'asla-oss' and run firefox as 'aoss firefox'
[05:04] <George_Harrison> I have a quick question. I'm trying to compile some source code, the ./configure goes fine but the make falls short because this line shows up and errors out, "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpq" and I cannot find a .deb package. what should I do? thanks
[05:04] <cablop> then go back to synaptic, and install rar
[05:04] <instabin> i did dos that
[05:04] <DCCOLE> Linux Games
[05:04] <cablop> i like rara and i'm using ir in that way
[05:04] <George_Harrison> I am having troubles looking for the libraries (are they libs?)
[05:05] <_jason> instabin: press 'reload' then.  if you are still having problems, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:05] <hatake_kakashi> DCCOLE: tar -jxvf foo.tar.bz2
[05:05] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: but /dev on a currently running K/Ubuntu system is tmpfs mounted, so I had to use, ironically, Gentoo's boot disc to properly do the cp -a from hde to hdg's stuff.
[05:05] <cablop> *I like rar, and I'm using it in that way
[05:05] <DCCOLE> thanks
[05:05] <DCCOLE> do i have to use make or anything??
[05:05] <zulfiqar_> has anyone installed ubuntu on IBM T40?
[05:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell DCCOLE about compile
[05:06] <cablop> or just go to rarlab.com and download rar for linux, but the first optin is the best one, ubuntu includes a GUI that uses all compressed formats available
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack: I see.
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> zulfiqar_: T43 here.
[05:06] <cablop> does anybody knows if AMSN could damage xorg or ubuntu or gnome?
[05:06] <zulfiqar_> tonyyarusso : so you use a port replicator?
[05:07] <hatake_kakashi> btw, 7zip can handle rar files, as long as they are not password protected iirc
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> zulfiqar_: No...  Why?
[05:07] <instabin> here is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/557156
[05:07] <George_Harrison> so.. does anyone know where I would find -lpq in the program ld..?
[05:08] <zulfiqar_> tonyyarusso : i'm having problems with external monitor configuration, ubuntu takes the monitor specs of the laptop, not the external monitor
[05:08] <_jason> instabin: you don't have multiverse for breezy enabled, only for backports
[05:08] <hatake_kakashi> George_Harrison: man ld
[05:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell instabin about multiverse
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> zulfiqar_: Ah, not using an external.
[05:09] <sdghsgh> anyone using dapper? for some odd reason anything other than the breezy kernels cause gnome to crash upon logic
[05:09] <George_Harrison> I've already read the man page for ld
[05:09] <sdghsgh> logib
[05:09] <sdghsgh> login
[05:09] <zulfiqar_> anyone using an external monitor with a laptop?
[05:09] <George_Harrison> although I kinda skimmed it, lemme go back to it
[05:09] <sdghsgh> Ive used one before zulfiqar
[05:09] <sdghsgh> why?
[05:09] <zulfiqar_> tonyyarusso : were you able to get the wifi running?
[05:10] <instabin> _jason multivers is checked in the package manager
[05:10] <cablop> !multiverse
[05:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:10] <_jason> instabin: for backports, not for main breezy
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> zulfiqar_: Yep, out of the box.
[05:10] <_jason> instabin: ``To enable the Multiverse repository, for each of the Community Maintained (Universe) entries click on the entry, click Edit, then change the entry for Sections from 'universe' to 'universe multiverse'.''  Did you do that?
[05:11] <akant> what is the purpose of procmail?
[05:11] <cablop> sdghsgh what did you say about kernel crashing gnome?
[05:11] <zulfiqar_> tonyyarusso : well first i need to get over with the extranl monitor problem then look into others
[05:11] <sdghsgh> well, the 2.6.15 kernels seems to stop gnome working
[05:11] <newbuntie> _jason: they should make it a checkbox
[05:11] <George_Harrison> erm.. it says nothing about "lpq" in the man page
[05:11] <sdghsgh> I log in using 2.6.10 from breezy
[05:11] <instabin> _jason, no sory
[05:11] <sdghsgh> and it works
[05:11] <akant> if one is just setting up a standard mail server .. postfix and imap is it needed?
[05:11] <_jason> newbuntie: it's because multiverse isn't free, but yes I agree with you.  That is a common problem here
[05:12] <_jason> instabin: even
[05:12] <DCCOLE> okay i got an error
[05:12] <DCCOLE> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:12] <DCCOLE> whats does that meen???
[05:12] <zulfiqar_> anyone using a port replicator with a laptop here?
[05:12] <_jason> DCCOLE: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:12] <dle> akant - procmail processes incomin mail.
[05:12] <rewt_> is ndiswrapper good?
[05:12] <rewt_> i cant find a drive for my integ. wireless
[05:12] <rewt_> >.<
[05:12] <Xenguy> George_Harrison: dpkg -S lpq  <-- ?
[05:12] <hatake_kakashi> !tell rewt_ about ndiswrapper
[05:12] <cablop> sdghsgh i have a lot of troubles in my gnome, i have kernel...
[05:13] <cablop> sdghsgh - 2.6.12-10-k7
[05:13] <AntMaz> so im gonna try this once more . anyone got an idea on how i can add my name to admin or add another user through shell
[05:13] <cablop> maybe this is the reason?
[05:13] <George_Harrison> I guess I'm just confusing myself, I thought lpq was just a lib of ld. hmm..
[05:13] <sdghsgh> I see, but 2.6.12 I mean not 2.6.10 that works
[05:13] <sdghsgh> thats all fine
[05:13] <_jason> AntMaz: adduser user_name admin
[05:13] <dle> akant - 'apt-cache show procmail' shows more.
[05:13] <vars> please help me.... i am a loyal ubuntu user, i just need to know how to apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:13] <sdghsgh> its the new ones 2.6.15
[05:13] <vars> on a debian system
[05:13] <George_Harrison> hmm dpkg did it
[05:13] <rewt_> hatake_kakashi, says the page does not exist yet
[05:13] <Xenguy> George_Harrison: it's also an old printing command
[05:14] <cablop> i cant start some graphic applications as a difernet user from my session nor start a new session
[05:14] <George_Harrison> oh
[05:14] <George_Harrison> I feel stupid now.. heh
[05:14] <George_Harrison> thanks
[05:14] <amphi> vars: backports.org
[05:14] <Xenguy> George_Harrison: (views the print queue)
[05:14] <_jason> AntMaz: adduser will let you add a user to (strangely enough :P), read the man page for details
[05:14] <AntMaz> adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[05:14] <snoozyx> !mp3
[05:14] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:14] <George_Harrison> *thanks for helping me, not sarcasm
[05:14] <_jason> AntMaz: right, use sudo
[05:14] <Xenguy> George_Harrison: np
[05:14] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: meh, well I suppose searching around on the site may help
[05:14] <AntMaz> k
[05:14] <vars> amphi, i am using debian 3.1
[05:14] <amphi> vars: same here ;)
[05:15] <vars> what would my sources need to look like?
[05:15] <vars> sources.list
[05:15] <cablop> how can i go back to old kernel?
[05:15] <vars> can you just send me your sources?
[05:15] <amphi> vars: backports.org explains everything
[05:15] <vars> ok
[05:15] <hatake_kakashi> amphi and vars: maybe either one of you can help me with auto-resuming failed downloads in infinite loop until the file is successfully downloaded via apt-get? :)
[05:15] <AntMaz> worked in shell but i cant load it up gnome to edit the groups and users
[05:15] <amphi> vars: it's not only sources.list, there's pinning too
[05:16] <cablop> could i uninstall and old kernel and use a new one? how to do it?
[05:16] <cablop> excuse me
[05:16] <instabin> is there going to be a new package for azureus 2.4
[05:17] <rewt_> can linux handle .zip files?
[05:17] <cablop> copuld i uninstall a new kernel and go back no an older one? how?
[05:17] <dli> kernel panic: VFS:Unable to mount root fs ,  I have root=/dev/sda2 on USB-hdd
[05:17] <cablop> rewt_ yes
[05:17] <AntMaz> how do i type to read the man in shell
[05:17] <CrEeP> COuld any one give me a hand with an external usb drive?
[05:17] <George_Harrison> hmm the program lpq is a printing service (as indicated with it saying my HP printer was ready) but the -lpq switch for ld is still nowhere to be found
[05:17] <AntMaz> got it
[05:17] <rewt_> so how do i install a drive that was in a .zip folder?
[05:17] <cablop> !kernel uninstall
[05:17] <ubotu> cablop: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:17] <CrEeP> Here is the info I know so far http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8726
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: unzip
[05:18] <vars> hatake_kakashi, the only thing i've ever had a problem with is my server bing down and when it gets back up it automatically resumes.
[05:18] <vars> amphi, what does pinning do ?
[05:18] <adub> what version of orinoco drivers are used in the install of ubuntu 5.10/breezy
[05:18] <cablop> sdghsgh how can i install a kernel?
[05:18] <dle> CrEeP - What is the device?
[05:19] <rewt_> k i extracted it to my desktop
[05:19] <sdghsgh> well do an apt-cache to search for kernels available
[05:19] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: just loop forever I guess, checking $? after each run of apt-get, and bail if $? is 0
[05:19] <cablop> the kernel is the package named linux-image-xxxxxxx????
[05:19] <sdghsgh> or you could download the source and use onf of those
[05:19] <sdghsgh> cablop yes
[05:19] <CrEeP> Its an ide hdd in a enclouser
[05:19] <rewt_> it has a .exe file?
[05:19] <rewt_> can i run those?
[05:19] <Xenguy> !tell vars about pinning
[05:19] <cablop> in synaptic there are some packages with the ubuntu logo as a left sided icon
[05:19] <hatake_kakashi> vars: hmm what I mean is with apt-get, whenever I download updates, etc it gets the file, but some files you get connection timed out, I was looking for a way to make apt-get reget that file constantly even after several connection timed out attempts until the file has finnished downloading before progressing on
[05:20] <CrEeP> dle: it usto work but I went to look at some files on the drive and noticed it was not auto mounting any longer... /dev/sda is no longer there either
[05:20] <vars> oh... i don't know then
[05:20] <cablop> in synaptic there are some packages with the ubuntu logo as a left sided icon, what are them?
[05:20] <Xenguy> hatake_kakashi: apt-get does that by default
[05:20] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: apt-get should return non-zero if it doesn't d/l and install all the packages it intended to
[05:20] <rewt_> i found a ndiswrapper driver i guess for my card, but the file inside the folder is a .exe
[05:20] <rewt_> isnt that fr windows?
[05:21] <hatake_kakashi> Xenguy: for mine when I deal with dist-upgrade it doesn't it goes on with the next file, which is giving me a bit of a concern
[05:21] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: yes you can run that through wine
[05:21] <carpediem> rewt_: ndiswrapper wraps windows drivers, but the driver should be a .inf
[05:21] <amphi> rewt_: it might be a self-extracting zip archive, which I think is unpackable manually in linux
[05:22] <Xenguy> hatake_kakashi: hrm, I was thinking 'apt-get install'; not sure about dist-upgrade
[05:22] <rewt_> i dunno i got it from this site....http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:22] <amphi> rewt_: you may need to find the offset of the zip header in the file or something, I've never had to do it
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: odd
[05:22] <rewt_> and I looked for Presario (V2000Z)
[05:22] <AntMaz> system use the same as admin?
[05:23] <rewt_> if anyone wouldnt mind looking at the link and file i downloaded
[05:23] <hatake_kakashi> Xenguy: on big apt-get install such as apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for example, it still continues even though if it fails to download
[05:23] <Nunquam_Fidelis> How do you run the X server from the terminal?
[05:23] <_parte> if i do "make" i get this errors -> http://pastebin.com/557159  what they could mean? Thank You!
[05:23] <rewt_> Nunquam_Fidelis, start x
[05:23] <kyo> what the heck is the difference between horray and breezy? (LOL)
[05:23] <Xenguy> hatake_kakashi: hrm, maybe I'm generalizing from single-file data :-)
[05:24] <Nunquam_Fidelis> rewt_: ty
[05:24] <rewt_> Nunquam_Fidelis, no problem.
[05:24] <FlannelKing> kyo, versions.  Hoary is the older version, Breezy is the newest release.  It's six months younger.
[05:24] <vars> hey i get malformed line blah bla (dist parse)
[05:24] <vars> amphi,
[05:24] <rewt_> Can someone please take a look at that file and help me?
[05:24] <Xenguy> Nunquam_Fidelis: startx  ?
[05:24] <wastrel> kyo:  hoary and breezy are names for different versions of ubuntu
[05:24] <kyo> I see
[05:24] <hatake_kakashi> Xenguy: probably
[05:24] <carpediem> rewt_: for which card?
[05:25] <heliotrope> i installed the essential-build, (i think), how do i access it?
[05:25] <kyo> how do I check whats my version?
[05:25] <Xenguy> kyo: breezy = current
[05:25] <_6ix_> Hi, I was wondering if someone could me getting on the internet with Ubuntu.  I have Samba installed, but it fails to find an address name every time
[05:25] <hatake_kakashi> vars: you didn't have complete info under sources.list I presume?
[05:25] <carpediem> rewt_: the 3c410.exe file?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> kyo: cat /etc/issue
[05:25] <wastrel> kyo:  lsb_release -a
[05:25] <kyo> 5.04 horay hedgehog
[05:25] <rewt_> Broadcom BCM94318
[05:25] <kyo> so ... but I updated
[05:25] <kyo> how come it isn't breezy
[05:26] <rewt_> carp no
[05:26] <dle> _parte - It looks like it's expecting a header file mysql.h that it can't find.
[05:26] <pschulz01> Can anyone point me to a packaging tutorial for ubuntu?
[05:26] <Xenguy> kyo: how did you upgrade then?
[05:26] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8725       <--------  im getting that make error trying to patch the orinoco classic gold drivers
[05:26] <_6ix_> I'm using a netgear router, and windoze picks up the network connection fine automatically.  I have the eth0 connection set for DHCP, but to no avail
[05:26] <_parte> ho and where i have to put it dle?
[05:26] <kyo> Xenguy, synaptic
[05:26] <vars> nm
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> kyo: Did you change your sources first?
[05:27] <Mabus06> Is it possible for attackers to view the external IP of my router with a wifi card if they're within difference? How, and how can I prevent it?
[05:27] <dle> _parte - You probaly need the mysql-dev package of someting like that.
[05:27] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: something like: while true; do apt-get upgrade; if [ $? = 0 ] ; then break; done
[05:27] <kyo> tonyyarusso, not sure ... I don't think so
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: thanks, going to note that down and try that next time
[05:27] <kyo> so how would I go about updating ubuntu to the lastest ver
[05:27] <rewt_> carpediem, it is the Broadcom BCM94318 Card. Came with my Presario V2000
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> kyo: That would be why.
[05:27] <DCCOLE> SDL version 1.2.3 not found
[05:27] <DCCOLE> how do i fix this???
[05:27] <rewt_> carpediem, I'm trying to get it working.
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> kyo: you need to change those words 'hoary' to 'breezy'
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> kyo: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace all instances of hoary to breezy.
[05:27] <_parte> dle
[05:28] <kyo> I see
[05:28] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: er, while true; do apt-get upgrade; if [ $? = 0 ] ; then break; fi; done
[05:28] <carpediem> rewt_: which file though, you gave a page with many
[05:28] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: I think
[05:28] <_parte> i dont have mysql on my server i have on another
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> kyo: And then you'll have to make sure to do "Smart Upgrade"
[05:28] <rewt_> carpediem, hit ctrl+f and look for Broadcom BCM94318
[05:28] <Xenguy> !tell kyo about breezy
[05:28] <kyo> hmm
[05:28] <dle> _parte : if it's not on the machine on which you're building this thing, you won't succeed.
[05:28] <DCCOLE> SDL version 1.2.3 not found
[05:28] <kyo> ok I'm editing the sources.list now
[05:28] <carpediem> rewt_: how about pasting in a link to the ACTUAL file
[05:29] <DCCOLE> help me with this error SDL version 1.2.3 not found
[05:29] <rewt_> carpediem, ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/ferrari_4000/driver/winxp64bit/80211g.zip
[05:29] <Xenguy> kyo: you may wish to back it up too
[05:29] <CrEeP> dle: dmesg is not showing any thing out of the ordanery in any thing relaited to usb or scsi its all loaded fine
[05:29] <_parte> so i have do had mysql on my server?
[05:29] <_parte> is it hard to set up ?
[05:29] <rewt_> _parte,  no
[05:29] <kyo> ok I'm following the ubuntu faq for the source.list edit
[05:30] <kyo> I can't seem to bring up sources.list
[05:30] <kyo> hmm
[05:30] <_parte> ok ./configure , make, make install ? :p
[05:30] <_6ix_> Synaptic seems to be working...it looks like its downloaded and installed a couple of files, but I can't resolve any servers to get online
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> kyo: Needs sudo.
[05:30] <carpediem> rewt_: that's the zip.  Inside is an .inf.  That's the file you need.
[05:30] <dle> _parte: you're probably best off just using packages for the mysql stuff.
[05:30] <kyo> tonyyarusso, , it is sudo. I had it opened but it lagg so I had to force quit it
[05:30] <DCCOLE> sudo Gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:30] <kyo> gnome semi-lags for me
[05:30] <Xenguy> _parte: use packages :-)
[05:30] <rewt_> carpediem, okay so how do i do it? ive never manually installed something on linux
[05:31] <kyo> ack, looks like a reboot time
[05:31] <_6ix_> I just need to use DHCP to access the internet through my router, right?
[05:31] <dle> what Xenguy said.
[05:31] <DCCOLE> haha
[05:31] <carpediem> rewt_: you installed ndiswrapper?
[05:31] <DCCOLE> i need help
[05:31] <_parte> ye but i dont find apt-get install mysql
[05:31] <DCCOLE> SDL version 1.2.3 not found
[05:31] <Xenguy> what dle said :-)
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> kyncani: Uh oh.
[05:31] <rewt_> carpediem,  not yet lemme grab it really fast
[05:31] <carpediem> rewt_: the one you need is "ndiswrapper-utils"
[05:32] <Mordof> anyone here ever played warcraft 3 in wine? i need som help with some minor config issues.. (cursor icon, slow gameplay on a 6800xt video card)
[05:33] <rewt_> carpediem,  thanks
[05:33] <rewt_> carpediem, for the -utils part
[05:33] <_6ix_> Anyone feel like helping a complete noob?
[05:33] <rewt_> carpediem, okay i got it
[05:33] <rewt_> carpediem, now what
[05:33] <Mordof> _6ix_, with?
[05:33] <dle> _6ix_ : Xenguy does.
[05:33] <carpediem> rewt_: okay, have you extracted the .inf file?
[05:33] <rewt_> yes
[05:33] <zebraFusion> is there a way to launch an application from terminal
[05:33] <DCCOLE> SDL version 1.2.3
[05:33] <DCCOLE> SDL version 1.2.3
[05:33] <zebraFusion> and have it close the terminal after it launches
[05:34] <carpediem> rewt_: do you know how to use the command line?
[05:34] <rewt_> somewhat
[05:34] <rewt_> i know how to get to it
[05:34] <zebraFusion> like... running Azureus from terminal, and have the terminal close without the program closing first
[05:34] <Kyo> I just restarted now my computer boots up in bash
[05:34] <Kyo> how do i start gnome from bash?
[05:34] <carpediem> rewt_: can you change (in the command line) to the directory that you placed the .inf in?
[05:34] <Kyo> er, bash shell?
[05:34] <Mordof> Kyo, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:34] <dle> Kyo: gdm
[05:34] <rewt_> yes
[05:34] <carpediem> rewt_: okay, let me know when you have
[05:35] <Xenguy> Kyo: or failing that, 'startx'  ?
[05:35] <Kyo> heh
[05:35] <_neo_> how do i check for installed modules or applications?
[05:35] <Kyo> I had to do 'sudo gdm'
[05:35] <_6ix_> Sorry, I need help getting onto the internet
[05:35] <Xenguy> _neo_: lsmod for modules
[05:35] <Mordof> lol, Xenguy yeah... maybe i shouldnt be helping out
[05:35] <_6ix_> I just installed 5.10 last night, and I can't get it configured right
[05:35] <Mordof> im still kinda new myself
[05:35] <_neo_> how about applications?
[05:35] <rewt_> carpediem, it's not working
[05:35] <_neo_> thanks.
[05:36] <Mordof> _6ix_, what kind of internet do you have?
[05:36] <carpediem> rewt_: what isnt?
[05:36] <_6ix_> DSL, run through a netgear router
[05:36] <bimberi> _neo_: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[05:36] <zebraFusion> when I run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:36] <rewt_> carpediem, says syntax error near unexpectedtoken `('
[05:36] <zebraFusion> I get a fail on starting Gnome Display manager
[05:36] <rewt_> when I try to open the folder that is on my desktop
[05:36] <_6ix_> I have eth0 set for DHCP, and Samba is installed
[05:36] <carpediem> rewt_: where did you put the inf?
[05:36] <zebraFusion> this RANDOMLY happened to where when I booted, I'd get the login screen
[05:36] <Xenguy> Mordof: if you can help, help :-)
[05:36] <zebraFusion> then just a blank brown background
[05:36] <rewt_> its on my desktop in the folder it came with
[05:36] <Mordof> _6ix_, ahh, mine config'd automatically, sorry
[05:36] <carpediem> rewt_: okay, type cd ~/Desktop
[05:37] <DCCOLE> :-9
[05:37] <_neo_> xenguy & bimberi, thanks
[05:37] <DCCOLE> okay i need help with SDL
[05:37] <bimberi> _neo_: np :)
[05:37] <Mordof> Xenguy, heh, k. ill try, since ive gotten so much help lately its not even funny. on the good side of things i managed to get warcraft 3 running on battle.net in wine!
[05:37] <_6ix_> I have two NICs in my computer.  Should I take one out to make sure it uses the one the ethernet is plugged into?
[05:37] <rewt_> k
[05:37] <DCCOLE> what is it and how do i get it
[05:37] <Xenguy> Mordof: enjoy
[05:37] <carpediem> rewt_: then type "cd W" then hit the TAB key, and it will autocomplete
[05:37] <Mordof> _6ix_, er... ifconfig should show some info about your ethernet devices
[05:37] <dle> zebraFusion - no Gnome?
[05:37] <rewt_> carpediem, Okay I typed it and  it opened the dir
[05:38] <Mordof> _6ix_, though i dont know what you would be looking for...
[05:38] <BigDaddy> nickrud - where are you?
[05:38] <Xenguy> _6ix_: you want 'pppoe' I expect
[05:38] <carpediem> rewt_: now type "sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf"   When it asks for a password, put YOUR password in.
[05:38] <_6ix_> ifconfig?
[05:38] <Mordof> Xenguy, hes running through a router
[05:39] <Xenguy> Mordof: but he needs pppoe, yes?
[05:39] <_6ix_> Not PPPOE, because it's run through the router, so I don't need to put in the login/pass for my internet
[05:39] <Mordof> Xenguy, oh nm, lol. ive never had to do this, i forgot what pppoe was there for a second, yeah
[05:39] <rewt_> carpediem, Installing bcmwl5
[05:39] <rewt_> Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|2
[05:39] <rewt_> done
[05:39] <DCCOLE> how do i install a deb file
[05:39] <_6ix_> let me go run ifconfig
[05:39] <_6ix_> brb
[05:39] <Xenguy> _6ix_: /me shrugs
[05:39] <DCCOLE> or use a .deb file
[05:40] <GigaClon> DCCOLE, dpkg
[05:40] <Mordof> gah.. me and my misleading attempts at help :S
[05:40] <Xenguy> DCCOLE: dpkg -i (or else use apt-get install)
[05:40] <snoozyx> how can i make the fonts in firefox smaller (that one from gtk2)?
[05:40] <Mordof> i can tell you right now hes gonna be running in circles for a bit, lol
[05:40] <mebaran151_> my nforce ethernet will not dhcp
[05:40] <mebaran151_> what might I do
[05:40] <BigDaddy> Damn - does anyone here talk to nickrud frequently?
[05:40] <carpediem> rewt_: okay....now you have it installed.  type "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[05:40] <adub> how hard is it to get ndiswrapper to work with orinoco gold card and will the card have monitor mode
[05:40] <mebaran151_> I just installed it
[05:40] <Mordof> Xenguy, do you know how to disable one of the ethernet cards he has plugged in?
[05:41] <Kyo> in souce.list, should I update to breezy  or dapper?
[05:41] <mebaran151_> and eht0 is created with module forced eth
[05:41] <_6ix_> Hmm....ifconfig doesn't tell me all that much
[05:41] <GigaClon> breezy, dapper is unstable
[05:41] <mebaran151_> forcedeth
[05:41] <Xenguy> Mordof: ifdown and ifup ?
[05:41] <mebaran151_> but nothing ... works
[05:41] <Kyo> breezy it is then
[05:41] <Xenguy> Mordof: or ifconfig if need be
[05:41] <Mordof> _6ix_, as i suspected, sorry.. im still kind of new but doing my best to help out, lol
[05:41] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Ok, a friend of mine is having problems running X. When he runs X, he gets an error, "No screens found."
[05:41] <_6ix_> I appreciate it
[05:41] <_6ix_> Don't worry about it
[05:41] <Mordof> Xenguy, _6ix_ has 2 nics...
[05:42] <Mordof> no idea how to disable one of them
[05:42] <_6ix_> I've never used Linux before, WinXP was dying, thought I'd finally get around to trying a flavor of it
[05:42] <_6ix_> Well, there's always the hard disable.
[05:42] <BigDaddy> if anyone sees nickrud, tell him I finally got the damned nvidia driver working. I have my 1280x1024 res back
[05:42] <carpediem> adub: it's not that hard to get ndiswrapper set up (although I have no idea about *That* card)
[05:42] <_6ix_> Pop one out of the PCI slot
[05:42] <Mordof> _6ix_, true... 1 sec though ill check system stuff
[05:42] <rewt_> carpediem, that all i do and it will do rest from there?
[05:42] <mebaran151> so what can I do about my nforce ethernet
[05:42] <DCCOLE> What is SDL
[05:42] <Xenguy> Mordof: I thought I just answered that :-)  Anyway, just unplug 1 if need be
[05:42] <rewt_> carpediem, okay now what
[05:42] <_6ix_> Alright, thanks
[05:42] <adub> carpediem will ndis get monitor mode working
[05:42] <carpediem> rewt_: did you do that last step?
[05:43] <Mordof> Xenguy, yeah but i have no idea how to utilize those, tell _6ix_ how to do it specifically since he has to run to another computer :P
[05:43] <rewt_> carpediem, said     [ok] 
[05:43] <rewt_> ?
[05:43] <mebaran151> DCCOLE, SDL is kind of like DirectX; it provides a platform against which dev's can write games, plattes and so on
[05:43] <Kyo> ok so I'm working on the sources.list right now ... in things like deb http etc ... do I put # in front it or not? Because I want the multiverse stuff.
[05:43] <mebaran151> it gives them an API for sound and video
[05:43] <carpediem> adub: I don't know with that card.  But if you have the .inf its a two minute process.
[05:43] <DCCOLE> Do u know how to set it up????
[05:43] <mebaran151> DCCOLE, why do you want to set it up
[05:43] <DCCOLE> Please i want to run some games but it says i need it
[05:43] <carpediem> rewt_: okay....now you have it installed.  type "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[05:43] <carpediem> rewt_: that part
[05:43] <mebaran151> oh
[05:43] <vars> how do i set up xserver?
[05:43] <adub> carpediem sounds like the ticket then cause i have the infs
[05:43] <vars> reconfigure it?
[05:43] <mebaran151> you apt-get a bit
[05:43] <rewt_> carpediem, already did that
[05:43] <Mordof> nows a time for wiki!
[05:44] <carpediem> adub: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:44] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Ok, a friend of mine is having problems running X. When he runs X, he gets an error, "No screens found."
[05:44] <Xenguy> _6ix_: for example 'ifdown eth1' should disable 1 of the cards (check with 'ifconfig -a')
[05:44] <carpediem> rewt_: are you online?
[05:44] <GigaClon> DCCOLE, SDL is the Open Source answer to DirectX
[05:44] <GullyFoyle> DCCOLE apt-get install libSDL
[05:44] <adub> carpediem now i have the card working fine in linux i just want monitor mode working but
[05:44] <synackuator> how do I set my screen resolution to native when my kernel is loading?
[05:44] <vars> reconfigure it?
[05:44] <vars> how do i set up xserver?
[05:44] <adub> i want to still be able to get online of coarse
[05:44] <GullyFoyle> DCCOLE apt-cache search first
[05:44] <rewt_> carpediem, yes but with my external wireless card
[05:44] <rewt_> i carpediem i want to use my interna;
[05:44] <adub> do i need to remove the linux drivers carpediem
[05:45] <GigaClon> but if you need SDL it will be install when you install something that needs it
[05:45] <carpediem> adub: I have no idea, I've only done ndiswrapper when I had no other choice.
[05:45] <DCCOLE> i need to update from hoary to breezy???
[05:45] <Xenguy> !tell DCCOLE about breezy
[05:45] <carpediem> rewt_: well, type iwconfig and see what you have
[05:45] <adub> carpediem  ok  i have it installed how do i set this up
[05:45] <Kyo> I replace breezy in place of hoary, now I get errors when I try to update in 'apt-get dist-upgrade' :(
[05:45] <Mordof> Xenguy, heh.. figured id give ifconfig -a a try, and i have sit0 (IPv6) that does nothing.. whats that all about
[05:45] <Kyo> !tell kyo about breezy
[05:45] <carpediem> rewt_: don't paste the output here
[05:45] <rewt_> carpediem, i only see my external on iwconfig
[05:45] <Kyo> heh heh
[05:46] <Xenguy> !tell DCCOLE about ALLCAPNICKS
[05:46] <DCCOLE> HAHA already got the updat for breezy thanks
[05:46] <Xenguy> hehe
[05:46] <carpediem> adub: cd to the dir with your inf, and type "sudo iwconfig -i myInf.inf"
[05:46] <Kyo> heh
[05:46] <Mordof> isnt DCCOLE a giant abbreviation?
[05:46] <Mordof> in which case is justified for being in all caps..
[05:46] <DCCOLE> YES
[05:46] <farous>  kyo did you update your source litst after changing your source file
[05:46] <dle> Xenguy - I remember Al Capnick.
[05:46] <carpediem> rewt_: sec....
[05:46] <farous> Kyo: apt-get update
[05:46] <DCCOLE> David Cool Cole
[05:47] <DCCOLE> But there is another trem
[05:47] <Mordof> lol
[05:47] <Xenguy> dle: good ol' Al :-)
[05:47] <adub> carpediem my command to view ip is ifconfig i never use iwocnfig but i would on that command line for this ndiswrapper??
[05:47] <mebaran151> anyone here know alot about dhcp
[05:47] <dle> Xenguy - Actually he was kind of a prick, I thought?
[05:47] <_6ix_> ifdown to disable....got it...cigarette break, then i'll try it
[05:47] <mebaran151> and why its packets might fail on a an nforce4 gigabit ethernet chipset
[05:47] <Xenguy> dle: it stands to reason
[05:48] <Xenguy> _6ix_: man ifdown for details
[05:48] <carpediem> adub: you can...but I was talking to rewt_ about ndiswrapper too
[05:48] <rewt_> carpediem, did you get that last message? Only my external is showing up. >.<
[05:48] <DCCOLE> i have a deb file for SDL
[05:48] <carpediem> rewt_: open System > Administration > Networking
[05:48] <Mordof> yay for wiki ubuntu! found how to monitor ALL internet activity on my network :D
[05:48] <carpediem> adub: did you run the inf install command?
[05:49] <rewt_> carpediem, its open now what
[05:49] <farous> Mordof: netstat in a command line and do a man to see what you need i normall use netstat -tup
[05:49] <carpediem> rewt_: do you see both interfaces?
[05:49] <rewt_> carpediem, Nope only my eth1 which is my orinoco classic gold external
[05:49] <Kyo> ha ha ha ... you guys rock!
[05:49] <Xenguy> Mordof: which tool?
[05:49] <carpediem> rewt_: hmmm
[05:49] <Kyo> ubuntu is updating to breezy =)
[05:50] <rewt_> :-\
[05:50] <carpediem> rewt_:  don't worry, we'll get this figured out
[05:50] <adub> if i chmod 777 how can i make it go down an entire directory tree for each file and folder
[05:50] <carpediem> adub: add -R
[05:50] <wastrel> hi
[05:51] <Mordof> Xenguy, ipac-ng... but it errored on me when installing :S i dunno, somethin with my ip_tables
[05:51] <rewt_> carpediem, cool :)
[05:51] <kostas> hello guys I would like to ask how can I remove a file from my desktop which says me I do not have the permissions to delete it...
[05:51] <instabin> !composite
[05:51] <ubotu> methinks composite is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.
[05:52] <mazatl> does ubuntu have a 1.0.5 package for firefox?
[05:52] <carpediem> rewt_: give me a minute or two to look at my other system that's running ndiswrapper
[05:52] <rewt_> kk
[05:52] <mazatl> I mean 1.5
[05:52] <GigaClon> kostas, open a terminal, get to your desktop and then sudo rm file,
[05:53] <Xenguy> mazatl: there's a HOWTO but I can't vouch for it (didn't work for me)
[05:53] <GigaClon> use your password when promted
[05:53] <djzn> how do configure GTK 1.x apps to look better
[05:53] <rage`> Hey guys :D
[05:53] <dli> how to force kernel to probe USB hdd partitions for root fs
[05:53] <djzn> GTK 1.x apps have their font extremely HUGE
[05:53] <Xenguy> !tell mazatl about ff1.5
[05:53] <GigaClon> !tell me about ff1.5
[05:53] <farous> mazat it will be in the repos when dapper is out but not in breezy repos
[05:53] <sdghsgh> [05:53] <sdghsgh> woops
[05:53] <sdghsgh> sorry
[05:54] <mazatl> dapper is when?
[05:54] <cyphase> how do you make sure a module loads on boot
[05:54] <farous> !dapper
[05:54] <ubotu> farous: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:54] <cyphase> which config file does it fo in?
[05:54] <cyphase> !dapper
[05:54] <quatsch> evening everyone
[05:54] <farous> !dapper drake
[05:54] <ubotu> dapper drake is probably the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper
[05:54] <dle> Xenguy - Have you successfully updated today?
[05:54] <Kyo> whats the command to check my version?
[05:54] <wastrel> cyphase:  /etc/modules
[05:54] <sdghsgh> hmm, this is wierd, it worked gnome did 2.6.15-14 but ... now it says that it failed to load fglrx
[05:54] <cyphase> umm
[05:54] <Xenguy> dle: to what?
[05:55] <farous> april 2006 mazatl
[05:55] <sdghsgh> when clearly fglrx module exists in /lib/modules
[05:55] <dle> Xenguy - security stuff, USN.
[05:55] <instabin> having prob with azureus ... wont download to usb hard drive thinks there is not enough space but there is 40 gig free
[05:55] <cyphase> wastrel, so create the folder?
[05:55] <Xenguy> dle: I stay pretty regular - much easier with Ubu than Sid :-)
[05:56] <dle> Xenguy: And...
[05:56] <mazatl> 2 months is a long time to wait for a firefox 1.5 build
[05:56] <Kyo> I upgraded ... how come it still says horray?
[05:56] <wastrel> cyphase /etc/modules is a file you put the name of modules you want autostarted in it
[05:56] <cyphase> ah, file
[05:56] <cyphase> right :)
[05:56] <farous> mazat you can see ubotu link and you can just download from their site and use it directly
[05:56] <wastrel> cyphase:  the actual module goes with the rest of the modules for that kernel version
[05:56] <carpediem> rewt_: allright, try this.  Type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" in a terminal
[05:57] <cyphase> wastrel, yea
[05:57] <dle> Xenguy - there were several issued today: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn  But the reps don't seem to be updated. ??
[05:57] <cyphase> wastrel, the module in question is ndiswrapper
[05:57] <mzuverink> can anyone tell me what the password is for webmin on a new install, root it says in the install note is the user name, but it did not specify a password?
[05:57] <farous> Kyo: yo need to restart
[05:57] <Kyo> new version 2.10.1-0ubuntu1 <-- is this the lastest version
[05:57] <Kyo> farous: oh really ..
[05:57] <Kyo> OK
[05:57] <farous> kyo but before that sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <Kyo> farous: I did
[05:57] <farous> will take you some time
[05:57] <farous> ok you need to restart to boot to the new kernel
[05:57] <Kyo> heh
[05:57] <rewt_> carpediem, okay i typed it in
[05:57] <wastrel> cyphase:  so yeah just put  ndiswrapper  in /etc/modules
[05:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell mzuverink about webmin
[05:58] <cyphase> wastrel, i know :)
[05:58] <Xenguy> dle: I merely assume that the great ubu gawds are on top of these things; are you suggesting they're not then?
[05:58] <cyphase> wastrel, thanx
[05:58] <Kyo> ok rebooting ..
[05:58] <carpediem> rewt_: anything new in iwconfig?
[05:58] <dle> Xenguy - Well it kinda looks that way.  Why issue notices if the reps stay unchanged?
[05:58] <Xenguy> dle: makes sense...
[05:59] <Xenguy> dle: I haven't seen many security updates recently now that you mention it
[05:59] <rewt_> carpediem, YES!
[05:59] <rewt_> carpediem, wlan0 is there now
[05:59] <Xenguy> dle: unless I'm just doing something wrong
[05:59] <carpediem> rewt_: great
[05:59] <Mordof> hmmm... odd, i go to watch a movie, and the sound is horribly out of sync with the video
[06:00] <Xenguy> heh...
[06:00] <Xenguy> !security
[06:00] <ubotu> Xenguy: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:00] <carpediem> rewt_: Go into Setting > Administration > Networking, set wlan0 as your Default Gateway, and then you can remove your external
[06:00] <peej> Mordof: dubbed movie?
[06:00] <Xenguy> o.0
[06:00] <rewt_> carpediem, will i have to do that everytime i login?
[06:00] <Mordof> peej, they work fine in windows and on tv
[06:00] <Mordof> peej, i have no idea what you mean by "dubbed"
[06:00] <amphi> Mordof: how out of sync? in mplayer you could use +/- to adjust A/V sync
[06:00] <carpediem> rewt_:  you shouldnt, no.  It should set it up automatically, but if not let me know and we'll work on it more.
[06:01] <Mordof> amphi, over 1 second away
[06:01] <Mordof> amphi, like 2 or 3 seconds off
[06:01] <rewt_> carpediem, okay im going to enable this then reboot my computer and see what happens...ill be back in a minute or 5 :-P
[06:02] <carpediem> rewt_: great, I'll keep my fingers crossed
[06:02] <mzuverink> _jason:now it has blocked me for too many auth failures, how long does that last?
[06:02] <rewt_> carpediem, you and I both. :-P
[06:02] <_jason> mzuverink: no idea
[06:02] <Mordof> amphi, im dling mplayer now though
[06:02] <NCLife> i would like to have azureus loading at startup, how could i do that?
[06:03] <farous> NCLife: admin > pref > session > startup progs
[06:03] <adub> my usb drive i can no  longer write to i can only read
[06:04] <carpediem> adub: even as root
[06:04] <carpediem> adub:  ?
[06:04] <Kyo> I updated, but it still says ... horay
[06:04] <Kyo> Hmm
[06:04] <vwguy337> Mordof: did you get everything working last night?
[06:04] <Mordof> vwguy337, not last night, its all working today though :0
[06:04] <Mordof> :D
[06:04] <adub> carpediem i can as root
[06:04] <NCLife> farous, my azureus is just an executable, i must run it at a terminal every time
[06:04] <vwguy337> Mordof: awesome...  =] 
[06:05] <adub> but what would i put in fstab to mount as read/write/execute
[06:05] <extraneus> whats up all
[06:05] <Mordof> vwguy337, when i installed before the update, it then overwrote my nvidia install.. the updates included an nvidia driver update (with the crap version from repos)
[06:05] <vwguy337> hi extraneus
[06:05] <carpediem> adub: I don't have the exact info, but you need to get hotplug to mount it with user rw.  There are ways, but I don't remember how.
[06:05] <Mordof> vwguy337, so when i then proceeded to install my new drivers, there was a driver conflict issue
[06:05] <Xenguy> NCLife: Preferences>Sessions>Startup
[06:05] <NCLife> farous, is there a way to get azureus as a normal programm?
[06:05] <vwguy337> Mordof: nice
[06:06] <farous> Xenguy: that is exact what i said
[06:06] <Mordof> vwguy337, which is why it kept telling me i had the wrong version, som guy, Tomi- i think his name was, discovered that for me and sent me to a guide to fix it
[06:06] <Kyo> when was breezy released?
[06:06] <farous> NCLife: what do you mean i can not quite understand
[06:06] <Mordof> vwguy337, now that thats done, i get anywhere from 500-3000 fps in screensavers, lmao
[06:06] <Xenguy> farous: excellent
[06:06] <btn> I just installed FIrefox 1.5 using the wiki instructions and when opening firefox it goes to mcdonalds homepage...
[06:06] <vwguy337> Mordof: 500-3000???  holy crap!
[06:06] <Mordof> vwguy337, fullscreen 1600x1200, yeah
[06:06] <Mordof> vwguy337, THAT is why i wanted my drivers installed so badly ;)
[06:06] <btn> Is that some kind of trojan ?
[06:07] <vwguy337> Mordof: i repeat myself...HOLY CRAP!  lol
[06:07] <Mordof> lol
[06:07] <Xenguy> btn: very funny
[06:07] <Mordof> now only used for screensavers and warcraft 3
[06:07] <btn> ya
[06:07] <adub> gez it use to work now all of a sudden doesnt work
[06:07] <Xenguy> Mordof: sure you do, it's working now ;-)
[06:07] <Mordof> lol
[06:07] <NCLife> farous, i mean it is just a shell script that i have to load on a terminal to run it.. i dont have it on the programms menu
[06:07] <farous> NCLife: any program that you run is an executable that you can run in a terminal. unluss you need special env. var for azures
[06:07] <Mordof> yeah just wait till its not working
[06:07] <spazzz> I hate my joystick.  jsconfig says it works and is calibrated correctly.  But when I try to use it in Linux it dosen't see any Axis Imputs
[06:07] <Mordof> gonna pount it into the floor
[06:08] <spazzz> jscalibration i mean not config
[06:08] <jodanlime> has anybody gotten mythtv to work?
[06:08] <farous> NCLife: it will work fine Admin>pref>session>startup
[06:08] <vwguy337> now if i could only get my wireless working...i'd have a fully working system!
[06:08] <farous> NCLife: just give it the right path
[06:08] <spazzz> does anyone have any idea's?  I've had this up on the forums for days and no one can seem to help
[06:08] <farous> NCLife: where do you run azurus from which dir
[06:08] <carpediem> vwguy337: what's wrong with your wireless
[06:09] <vwguy337> carpediem: acx111...LOL
[06:09] <spazzz> ok for a day but it feels like days *heh*
[06:09] <NCLife> farous, from ~/programms/azureus$
[06:09] <jodanlime> help me on mythtv anyone?
[06:09] <NCLife> then ./azureus
[06:09] <NCLife> thats what i have to write on the terminal each time
[06:10] <farous> NCLife: you can also execute it as !/programms/azuresus/azureus
[06:10] <adub> rw,nosuid,noexec,nodev,umask=000            <---- i have those options for my usb flash drive when i mount it ......the mount goes fine no errors but normal user can not write to teh drive??????
[06:10] <vwguy337> carpediem: honestly, tho...i  have a Linksys pcmcia card with the acx111 chipset and i just can't get it to work
[06:10] <spazzz> does no one have any idea's?
[06:10] <farous> NCLife: sorry ment you can also execute it as ~/programms/azuresus/azureus
[06:10] <carpediem> vwguy337: ah.
[06:10] <farous> NCLife: just put it this way in your startup programs list and it will work
[06:11] <NCLife> farous, merci :)
[06:11] <farous> uw :)
[06:11] <Mordof> gah! whats with video players and not synching with the audio automatically :S:S
[06:11] <spazzz> :-(
[06:11] <X-GueSt> any one got able to install intel i915 drivers ?
[06:11] <vwguy337> carpediem: yeah...unhappy...  but i installed ndiswrapper tonight...and it's working with wifiradar, but not getting an IP
[06:11] <K-rich> Damn, i spent all night getting php4 working with apache2
[06:11] <Mordof> X-GueSt, good lucjk
[06:11] <sdghsgh> I can modprobe fglrx, yet xserver-xorg complains that fglrx module cannot be found
[06:11] <sdghsgh> this is really od
[06:12] <carpediem> vwguy337: oh, hmm, weird.
[06:12] <carpediem> vwguy337: dhcp?
[06:12] <Mordof> K-rich, did you get it working? i know how if you didnt
[06:12] <vwguy337> carpediem: yep
[06:12] <X-GueSt> Mordof, ?
[06:12] <X-GueSt> lol
[06:12] <X-GueSt> I got it working with i810 drivers
[06:12] <X-GueSt> already installed on dapper
[06:12] <Mordof> X-GueSt, my intel modem wasnt supported by linux drivers Intel 586 or w/e, and some guy had to help me make some
[06:12] <carpediem> vwguy337: have you tried "sudo dhclient wlan0"   replace wlan0 with your interface
[06:12] <X-GueSt> just needed to put on driver on xorg i810
[06:12] <Mordof> X-GueSt, oh ok, yours is supported more than mine is i guess
[06:13] <jodanlime> can somebody help me with mythtv?
[06:13] <vwguy337> carpediem: actually...i hadn't thought of that...i'm kinda burned out on the computer today...
[06:13] <farous> sdghsgh: which kernel you are running
[06:13] <adub> i dont get it my cmoputer has a mind of its own this stuff did work fine no all of a sudden it doesnt
[06:13] <ubuntu> hi
[06:13] <carpediem> vwguy337: okay, try it some other time
[06:13] <sdghsgh> 2.6.15-14
[06:13] <adub> im mounting as rw
[06:13] <NCLife> farous, i closed azureus and tried to opened it with ~/programms/azuresus/azureus in the terminal, but it says "No such file or directory
[06:13] <NCLife> "
[06:13] <heliotrope> if i installed the build-essential package, how do i access the applications (my first day)
[06:13] <farous> sdghsgh: and you compiled from source
[06:13] <sdghsgh> i generated debs from installer
[06:14] <_jason> heliotrope: which applications?
[06:14] <carpediem> heliotrope: uh, "make"
[06:14] <farous> NCLife: check your speilling
[06:14] <heliotrope> _jason, things like gpp
[06:14] <vwguy337> carpediem: just meant that i am not thinking clearly...i just ran it and it's doing a bunch of stuff...
[06:14] <_jason> heliotrope: do you mean g++?
[06:14] <heliotrope> _jason, yeah sorry
[06:14] <_jason> heliotrope: they are command line tools
[06:14] <heliotrope> _jason, how do i use it?
[06:15] <carpediem> vwguy337: oh
[06:15] <Xenguy> !tell heliotrope about cli
[06:15] <_jason> heliotrope: g++ file.cpp
[06:15] <farous> sdghsgh: did you follow the howto on the ubuntu wiki you need to compile kernel modules. Any way might be a kernel problem am not sure
[06:15] <carpediem> vwguy337: any errors?
[06:15] <adub> _jason do you know how to get my usb drive working right it use to work now all of a sudden normal user can not write to drive i dont knwo what happened
[06:15] <farous> sdghsgh: ownerx did set it up though on the new ver of the kernel
[06:15] <sdghsgh> farous, I did, it could be a kernel problem but others have got it working
[06:15] <K-rich> Mordof, yeah but not sure how, want to fill me in?
[06:15] <_jason> adub: is it in fstab?
[06:15] <jodanlime> anybody know anything about mythtv?
[06:15] <adub> i have rebooted shutdown computer remounting 1000 times still nothing regular user can not do anything
[06:15] <heliotrope> _jason, is that what i type?
[06:15] <adub> yes
[06:15] <sdghsgh> yes ... I followed the steps though
[06:15] <vwguy337> carpediem: not that i saw...it ended up getting a "bound to" ip addy, but i don't see anything in it when i run iwconfig
[06:15] <adub> rw,nosuid,noexec,nodev,umask=000
[06:16] <_jason> heliotrope: that will compile file.cpp, read the link ubotu gave you for more info on cli
[06:16] <NCLife> farous, you were right :P
[06:16] <adub> _jason i have that in options i havent raellly changed anything
[06:16] <heliotrope> _jason, ohh, is there a c++ IDE for ubuntu?
[06:16] <farous> NCLife: use tab complettion will me much easier this way
[06:16] <adub> it just all of a sudden stopped working
[06:16] <farous> :)
[06:16] <_jason> heliotrope: anjuta is one
[06:17] <carpediem> vwguy337: could you pm me the output of iwconfig?
[06:17] <adub> i have tried chmod -R  and it stated the drive is read-only
[06:17] <heliotrope> _jason, would you recommend it?
[06:17] <NCLife> yes, ill do
[06:17] <jodanlime> !help with mythtv
[06:17] <_jason> heliotrope: it's the only one I have tried, I prefer to use a text editor and the command line though
[06:17] <vwguy337> carpediem: sure...give me a minute...
[06:17] <jodanlime> !help
[06:17] <heliotrope> _jason, ok, how would i go about installing things like anjuta?
[06:17] <_jason> heliotrope: it is in the repositories, do you know about synaptic?
[06:18] <_jason> adub: what options?
[06:18] <heliotrope> _jason, very little
[06:18] <spazzz> Ok let me ask this then
[06:18] <_jason> !info anjuta
[06:18] <adub> rw,nosuid,noexec,nodev,umask=000
[06:18] <Xenguy> heliotrope: sudo apt-get install anjuta
[06:18] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[06:18] <carpediem> vwguy337: or pastebin if you'd prefer.
[06:18] <_jason> adub: add 'user'
[06:18] <heliotrope> _jason, k
[06:18] <adub> i use to have minus rw and it just always worked
[06:18] <vwguy337> carpediem: different machine...  :-(
[06:18] <_jason> heliotrope: have you enabled universe?
[06:18] <spazzz> On a whim I tried running the programs with root privilieges and the joypad axis controls work then
[06:18] <carpediem> vwguy337: ohh, okay...hmmm
[06:18] <adub> rw,user,noauto,umask=000
[06:18] <jodanlime> help on mythtv?
[06:19] <heliotrope> _jason, i dont think so because i dont know what it is :\
[06:19] <adub> i had even tried that i changed it to that do i need nosuid still
[06:19] <spazzz> Does anyone know why the axis controls on a device would work on a program under root and wouln't work on a standard account?
[06:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell heliotrope about universe
[06:19] <vwguy337> carpediemhang on...is that pastebin.com?
[06:19] <mebaran151> dhcp seems to fail in Ubuntu with my nforce nic
[06:19] <mebaran151> what might be the issue
[06:19] <carpediem> vwguy337: then what did you mean when you said "but i don't see anything in it when i run iwconfig"
[06:19] <_jason> heliotrope: it will give you access to a lot more programs (including anjuta), see the link ubotu sent you
[06:19] <amphi> spazzz: permissions on the device file? perhaps your user needs to be in some group
[06:19] <vwguy337> carpediem: no ip addy
[06:19] <carpediem> vwguy337: you shouldn't in iwconfig.
[06:19] <heliotrope> _jason, thanks, ill read them over and return if i have any questions, thanks again
[06:20] <_jason> heliotrope: sure, np
[06:20] <spazzz> amphi: What file would I need to look at to assess what privliges the device has?
[06:20] <vwguy337> carpediem: oh, really?  hmmm...
[06:20] <carpediem> vwguy337: ifconfig has the ip address
[06:20] <rewt__> carpediem, hey im back
[06:20] <zulfiqar_> can anyone help me out configure external monitor on my IBM T40 laptop?
[06:20] <carpediem> rewt__: did it work?
[06:20] <vwguy337> carpediem: ok...next issue then...ifconfig lists the essid as someone else's...not my accesspoint that's sitting about 3 feet away
[06:21] <rewt__> carpediem, yew, but I had to manually turn on the mod.
[06:21] <farous> zulfiqar_: ok what do you need to do exactly
[06:21] <Mordof> K-rich, oh sorry.. you want me to fill you in on how to set it up?
[06:21] <farous> zulfiqar_: running a t42 here
[06:21] <carpediem> vwguy337: "sudo iwconfig wlan0 myEssid"
[06:21] <Mordof> K-rich, was trying to get my videos working correctly... :S
[06:21] <carpediem> rewt__: hmm, there's a way to fix that.....but I'm not thinking of it off the top of my head, let me think....
[06:21] <vwguy337> carpediem: now it says "off/any"
[06:21] <amphi> spazzz: no idea about joysticks at all
[06:22] <rewt__> you have to add it to a file....
[06:22] <zulfiqar_> farous : i have a port replicator and samsung monitor .. i get the same resolution on my external monitor as my latops screen ... how can i configure it to get higher resolution?
[06:22] <rewt__> I had to do it for my sound too
[06:22] <rewt__> but i dont remember the file
[06:22] <carpediem> vwguy337: when I said myEssid, you need to put your own essid
[06:22] <rewt__> :-\
[06:22] <zulfiqar_> farous, r u using a port replicator as well?
[06:22] <vwguy337> carpediem: i did...i put my essid in there
[06:22] <Mordof> K-rich, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PHP5Installation?highlight=%28PHP%29      that is php5... i dunno about 4. i know 4 has a different directory structure so im not sure, sorry
[06:22] <rewt__> brb
[06:22] <farous> zulfiqar_: what card do you have and what driver
[06:22] <carpediem> vwguy337: and it doesn't say yours, eh?  hmmm
[06:23] <vwguy337> carpediem: exactly
[06:23] <zulfiqar_> farous, its a ATI radeon .. default driver!
[06:23] <farous> zulfiqar_: and nice nick :) where from friend
[06:23] <rewt_> k
[06:23] <Mosi> someone help! i  blew up yaboot! >_<
[06:23] <zulfiqar_> farous, oh I'm from Dubai , thanks!
[06:23] <farous> zulfiqar_: thought you are from the gulf
[06:23] <rewt_> carpediem, Back. :-P
[06:23] <carpediem> vwguy337: no wep/wpa set on the router?
[06:23] <zulfiqar_> farous, u r right!
[06:23] <carpediem> rewt_: but you are now running without the external right?
[06:24] <amphi> Mosi: heh
[06:24] <farous> zulfiqar_: ok wait will give you a howto. am from egypt myself
[06:24] <spazzz> amphi: Alright thanks.  I don't think its permissions though.  I can use the BUTTONS on the controler under a standard account just not any of the AXIS parts.
[06:24] <K-rich> Mordof, yes please i have two more systems to set up and don't want the same issues
[06:24] <rewt_> carpediem, yes i am but i dont want to have to reconfigre it everytime i boot my machine
[06:24] <carpediem> rewt_: I know, but we've made good progress then
[06:24] <Mordof> K-rich, do you need to use php4?
[06:24] <zulfiqar_> farous, thanx .. do you use a port replicator as well?
[06:24] <vwguy337> carpediem: open access point connected to a 4 port router connected to my cable modem
[06:24] <Mordof> K-rich, or can you use 5
[06:24] <rewt_> carpediem, and if I push my wireless button to turn off the wireless and push it again to turn it back on, it doesnt work, I have to manually reactivate and reconfigure it
[06:25] <carpediem> rewt_: sounds like something hotplug is supposed to be managing.  Is hotplug running?
[06:25] <amphi> zulfiqar_: what problem do you have with the port replicator?
[06:25] <rewt_> not sure?
[06:25] <adub> this is commmpletely bonkers
[06:25] <adub> i didnt do anything to this drive and it just quits working
[06:26] <amphi> zulfiqar_: you might find info at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[06:26] <carpediem> rewt_: sec
[06:26] <rewt_> ?
[06:26] <zulfiqar_> amphi, my external monitor is attched to the port replicator and unbutu takes the native 1024X768 resilution and doesnot let me incres it when i use external monitor
[06:26] <farous> zulfiqar_: nope i just attach the external monitor to the monitor plug in my note book, and here is the howto
[06:26] <Mosi> amphi: you know anything about yaboot?
[06:26] <K-rich> I need php4
[06:26] <farous> hmm i can not paset to the Eterm :(
[06:26] <carpediem> vwguy337: hmm, I'm running out of ideas to try.  Its very weird that you can connect to another essid, but not your own
[06:26] <amphi> Mosi: I installed debian on an ibook once, that's about it
[06:26] <heliotrope> _jason, is this not free?
[06:27] <vwguy337> carpediem: im not even sure it's connected to the other one
[06:27] <heliotrope> _jason, when i changed it to multiverse it said 'non-free'
[06:27] <carpediem> rewt_: sec = second, as in "just a sec"
[06:27] <amphi> zulfiqar_: I think you need xorg.conf magic to differentiate the screens
[06:27] <rewt_> carpediem, oh okay
[06:27] <rewt_> carpediem, im trying to find that file to edit >.<
[06:27] <zulfiqar_> amphi, thats the point i donto know how to!
[06:27] <zulfiqar_> farous, thanks lemme see if i can find my solution there
[06:28] <amphi> zulfiqar_: nor I - that url might have info on it, else try tldp.org
[06:28] <farous> zulfiqar_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver
[06:28] <rewt_> anyone know how to add a modto startup...like which file it is to edit?
[06:28] <carpediem> rewt_: got it.  edit /etc/modules
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> farous: Whoa.  I need to spend more time on the ThinkWiki site.  There's all kinds of stuff there!
[06:29] <farous> yap
[06:29] <carpediem> rewt_: but that's not going to fix the button problem
[06:29] <_jason> heliotrope: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html, it's not free as in speech
[06:29] <farous> :)
[06:29] <rewt_> just add ndiswrapper to it?
[06:29] <new_> hello i am new to ubuntu..i am stock in a 640x480 ..  can cange with xorgconfig...?
[06:29] <_jason> heliotrope: more specifically, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[06:29] <carpediem> rewt_: yep, as a separate line
[06:30] <farous> zulfiqar_: gladly this one is for the port replicators too
[06:30] <heliotrope> _jason, oh so it's not talking money
[06:30] <navyn> hey guys i got an ATI Radeon 9250, and this is the output of the glxgears benchmark, 2948 frames in 5.0 seconds = 589.500 FPS
[06:30] <navyn> , is this good or bad?
[06:31] <carpediem> new_: have you tried changing resolutions in gnome? does it allow any others?
[06:31] <_jason> heliotrope: nope, that would be ``free as in beer'' :)
[06:31] <heliotrope> _jason, rofl
[06:31] <rewt_> carpediem, okay that's all saved up and ready to go.
[06:31] <rewt_> carpediem, now for the button problem.
[06:31] <heliotrope> _jason, and i should do this to all updates titled (Universe)?
[06:32] <zulfiqar_> amphi, r u suing an external monitor as well?
[06:32] <Mordof> grrr, i cant get my video working properly :S
[06:32] <_jason> heliotrope: yes, to get multiverse
[06:32] <carpediem> rewt_: no idea about the button.  I have never had a laptop with internal wireless.  Sorry.
[06:32] <heliotrope> _jason, looks like i've got some work to do! haha
[06:32] <Mordof> would i need to reinstall my libdvdcss and all my mpeg and divx codecs n stuff after i install my drivers?
[06:32] <navyn> i have not done any of the ATI instructions from the forums, this is off the standard install
[06:32] <Madpilot> Mordof: I don't think so
[06:32] <_jason> heliotrope: ha, I think it should only be 4
[06:32] <carpediem> rewt_: If you want to send me a laptop with internal wireless, I'd be happy to give it a whirl. ;)
[06:33] <Mordof> Madpilot, k
[06:33] <rewt_> anyone running internal wireless here?
[06:33] <Mordof> K-rich, your solution awaits:   http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_PHP_for_Apache_HTTP_Server
[06:33] <K-rich> Nope
[06:33] <mebaran151> I need to get my nforce nic running
[06:33] <mebaran151> it seems as though it should be supported hardware
[06:33] <zulfiqar_> farous, r u using an external monitor as well?
[06:33] <farous> zulfiqar_: only for presentation purposes
[06:33] <farous> i use it in the dual head mode for that
[06:33] <heliotrope> _jason, dang you're good, it looked like an intimidating list at first
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: Yes, Intel Pro 2915 a/b/g, worked out of the box.
[06:34] <amphi> zulfiqar_: no, never tried it
[06:34] <new_> man i need some help...!!!! how i change my screen rezolution?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> !fixres
[06:34] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:35] <rewt_> tonyyarusso, im using nsidwrapper or whatever it is....but if i push my wireless button when it's going I have to manually turn on the mod again and reactivate the card manually....if I push the button to turn it back on nothing happens?
[06:35] <farous> zulfiqar_: but there are many modes dual head, extended desktop and clone mode
[06:35] <rewt_> any idea?
[06:35] <carpediem> rewt_:  you might find something in the forums.
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: You might be able to find the script being run by the button event and add some modprobe lines, but I don't know the exact details.
[06:35] <navyn> is 2948 frames in 5.0 seconds = 589.500 FPS for my ATI card good do you think, or should I follow the instructions in the forums?
[06:36] <amphi> navyn: that's a bit less than I get here with a Radeon Mobility 7500
[06:36] <amphi> navyn: 3221 frames in 5.0 seconds = 643.983 FPS
[06:36] <DUMAiSO> amphi, how do I use a benchmark in ubuntu?
[06:36] <farous> navyn: what card and how much mem
[06:36] <zulfiqar_> farous, how do u change resolutions then on the external monitor?
[06:36] <amphi> DUMAiSO: a benchmark?
[06:36] <K-rich> -mordof: can you tell of how to fix the php4 issue.?
[06:36] <navyn> ATI Radeon 9250 with 256 MB DDR
[06:37] <DUMAiSO> amphi, to check fps rate
[06:37] <amphi> DUMAiSO: glxgears
[06:37] <farous> zulfiqar_: you do it in the display section
[06:37] <Mordof> K-rich, ive never installed php4 on ubuntu, only in windows...
[06:37] <farous> navyn: ok typg fglrxinfo
[06:37] <zulfiqar_> can i see your xorg.conf?
[06:37] <farous> navyn: and tell me what you see
[06:37] <heliotrope> _jason, it's installing, thanks again
[06:37] <DUMAiSO> amphi, any special arguments?
[06:37] <amphi> navyn: I would have thought that card should be faster, it should be a good bit better than mine
[06:37] <_jason> heliotrope: np
[06:37] <farous> zulfiqar_: i am running the fglrx drivers this will not work with the open source one
[06:38] <farous> zulfiqar_: and for port replicator turned out you need an additional option i just sent you the site
[06:38] <Mordof> question: how do i set an application as the default to open a file?
[06:38] <mebaran151> what's a good pci nic
[06:38] <farous> zulfiqar_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver
[06:38] <mebaran151> that's supported under Linux
[06:38] <mebaran151> my nforce is giving me so many problems
[06:38] <_jason> Mordof: right click > properties > open with
[06:38] <navyn> amphi, so do you think i should follow the ati guide in the forums?
[06:38] <mebaran151> I've decided to simply abandon it
[06:39] <Mordof> _jason, thanks
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> Mordof: Right-click a file of the type, Properties > Opens with, set it there.
[06:39] <DUMAiSO> amphi, it opens a windows with the gears, but gives me no results
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: realtek 8139 is cheap and well supported, intel pro/100 or pro/1000 are well supported and not so cheap; there are many others
[06:39] <farous> navyn: if you type fglrxinfo and see you have the ati card recog than all is well
[06:39] <rewt_> hmm im not finding anything on forums >.<
[06:39] <mebaran151> cheap is good
[06:39] <amphi> DUMAiSO: run it from an xterm
[06:39] <K-rich> Oh nm
[06:39] <Madpilot> mebaran151: there's a (small) wired nic section off here, have a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:39] <navyn> farous, even if my frame rates aren't that great?\
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: 8139 ones cost half-nothing ;)
[06:39] <mebaran151> amphi, but nforce is supposed to be supported
[06:39] <carpediem> rewt_: :(  Well, good luck, I hope you figure it out.  I'm off to bed.
[06:39] <farous> you have direct rendering check it with glxinfo
[06:39] <mebaran151> there's drivers and everything!
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: loads are supported
[06:39] <rewt_> carpediem,  thanks for all your help :)
[06:40] <mebaran151> but it won't dhcp
[06:40] <mebaran151> oh the life a vagabond
[06:40] <farous> if you have direct rendering i do not think anything more can be done
[06:40] <carpediem> rewt_: np.  Keep at it, and you'll figure it all out, I'm sure.
[06:40] <mebaran151> if I have my router running a dhcp server
[06:40] <amphi> mebaran151: I know nothing of nforce
[06:40] <navyn> farous, it says fglrxinfo not found
[06:40] <mebaran151> and I fake a static ip
[06:40] <sdghsgh> sorry, doesnt xorg look for drivers in /lib/modules/kernelver/drivers/video?
[06:40] <mebaran151> like putting this computer at 192.168.1.50
[06:40] <mebaran151> will bad things happen?
[06:40] <amphi> navyn: you're running the xorg driver?
[06:40] <mebaran151> shoudl I put the static ip outside the range of the dhcp server
[06:40] <farous> navyn: did you install the latest xorg driver
[06:41] <farous> form ati
[06:41] <amphi> navyn: what does glxinfo say?
[06:41] <navyn> amphi, i just completed the standard install of the OS, I've done nothing else
[06:41] <farous> navyn: you are running the oss drivers and that is good frame rate for them
[06:41] <amphi> navyn: xorg then, presumably - have a look at glxinfo output
[06:41] <navyn> I ran glxgears and got this:  2948 frames in 5.0 seconds = 589.500 FPS
[06:41] <navyn> 2562 frames in 5.0 seconds = 512.388 FPS
[06:41] <ivaneeo> help me.
[06:41] <ivaneeo> help me.
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> !helpme
[06:41] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:42] <farous> navyn ok type in a terminl glxinfo |grep rendering
[06:42] <ivaneeo> my notebook is sony viao vgn-s46c/b.sata hd.
[06:43] <Mordof> yay! i solved the audio out of synch problem!
[06:43] <navyn> farous, direct rendering: yes
[06:43] <farous> navyn: if it says no you have the opensource drivers if yes you have the property one
[06:43] <amphi> Mordof: what was it?
[06:43] <ivaneeo> and report ata1 bug...
[06:43] <farous> navyn: you have hardware 3d accel enabaled than
[06:44] <Mordof> amphi, it was using straight x11 display to view it, but i set it to x11 opengl display, and i guess that makes it run faster.
[06:44] <ivaneeo> sata hd. report ata1 bug....
[06:44] <navyn> farous, so I'm good then?  I shouldn't mess with the HOW-TO: ATI fglrx driver 8.16.20 instructions?
[06:44] <_jason> Mordof: what did you do?
[06:44] <farous> hmm and you say you did not install the fglrx drivers. Are you running dapper
[06:44] <amphi> Mordof: try -vo xv with mplayer
[06:44] <Mordof> (mplayer)
[06:44] <bm> were keep the unbuntu the file conf for screen rezolution???
[06:44] <amphi> Mordof: if that works, do echo vo=xv >> ~/.mplayer/config
[06:44] <Mordof> k
[06:45] <Mosi> can someone running breezy do a ls /boot for me, and tell me if there's a generic symlink to initrd.img-<version> ?
[06:45] <Mordof> in this or in terminal
[06:45] <amphi> Mordof: xv is the best driver in my experience
[06:45] <amphi> Mordof: huh?
[06:45] <Mordof> x11 opengl works perfect for me..
[06:45] <ivaneeo> report ata1 bug... error.is sata controller's problem?
[06:45] <Mosi> as in the way /boot/vmlinux is linked to your preferred kernel image
[06:45] <Mordof> smooth, no audio lag
[06:45] <amphi> Mordof: try playing a movie with mplayer -vo xv whatever
[06:45] <vwguy337> crap...i have to get to bed...gotta be up in about 5 hours...  Nite all!
[06:46] <bm> Videomodes: "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[06:46] <bm> Videoram: 131072 kByte
[06:46] <Mordof> hmmm. xv does look kinda nice
[06:46] <vwguy337> quit
[06:46] <bm> and i am stock in 640
[06:46] <amphi> Mordof: if it works nicely, do 'echo vo=xv >> ~/.mplayer/config' without quotes in a terminal, and mplayer will always use the xv driver without you needing to specify it
[06:46] <Madpilot> !tell bm about fixres
[06:47] <chantiq> hi pakabar?
[06:47] <Mordof> amphi, x11 opengl multi-texture version works best for me
[06:48] <Mordof> but then that may be due to my vid card
[06:48] <Mosi> can someone running breezy do a very simple, quick check on something for me?
[06:48] <chantiq> hal;o?
[06:48] <amphi> Mordof: uhuh - well, you can put that in .mplayer/config
[06:48] <emma34> can someone help me install a canon printer in ubuntu , priter is connected to my print server ie it is a network printer
[06:48] <farous> Mordof: just curious what vedio card you have
[06:48] <mebaran151> static ip is my best idea yet!
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  thers several kinds of network printers.:P
[06:49] <newbuntie> mosii: why don't you just ask, then maybe someone will
[06:49] <brtjohns> hi just got my ubuntu 5.10 cd's sent install to a 533mhz with 128mb of ram , will that be ok?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> emma34,   some use samba, some use that directjet stuff.
[06:49] <eclair> brtjohns, yup
[06:49] <LangCom> Hello i'm from korea
[06:49] <brtjohns> ok
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  whats serving the printer?
[06:50] <brtjohns> is there naything i have to do, someone said i have to enable root or something on ubuntu
[06:50] <brtjohns> once installed
[06:50] <Mosi> newbuntie: i already did, no one responded. can you do it? i just need you to ls /boot and tell me if there's a symlink to /boot/initrd.img-<version-number> that has a generic name i can point to, so i don't ahve to guess the version number
[06:50] <emma34> it is canon i470d on a netgear print server
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  check the docs for the print server (or the web itnerface) -  the gnome-cups-config tool has a pull down menu for the different 'ways' the printer can be served up.
[06:52] <mebaran151> great
[06:52] <mebaran151> this is ridiculous
[06:52] <mebaran151> just when I was about to final to do a static ip
[06:52] <Mordof> farous, sorry, was watching a movie.. nvidia 6800 xt 128mb
[06:52] <mebaran151> it succeeds in DHCP'ing
[06:53] <mebaran151> one day I swear
[06:53] <timfrost> !enter
[06:53] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[06:53] <Mosi> can someone please quickly do 'ls  /boot' for me, and tell me if there is a symlink that points to your initrd.img?
[06:53] <farous> Mordof: no problem and you are running it on breezy or dapper
[06:53] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:53] <Mordof> farous, breezy
[06:53] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:53] <farous> cool
[06:53] <farous> leave you to your movie now :)
[06:53] <_jason> Mosi: no
[06:53] <newbuntie> mosi: sorry, I'm a newbie, how would I tell which one is a symlink? :)
[06:53] <DUMAiSO> How do I mount an ISO image?
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> newbuntie: probably file
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> DUMAiSO: man mount
[06:54] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:54] <Mordof> farous, it was eurotrip.. ive already seen it a couple times
[06:54] <Mordof> now! to test an actual dvd
[06:54] <emma34> dr willis , thanks I will dig through the docs , by the way how do bring up the gnome cup  config tool
[06:55] <Mosi> is anyone else in here running a PPC?
[06:55] <JustinLei> who can help me~~~....
[06:55] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  its in the settings menus somewhere.
[06:55] <farous> mordof nice enjoy it then :)
[06:56] <hatake_kakashi> Mosi: I know nalioth is but nalioth is afk
[06:56] <cappicard> hmm... this is annoying... I can't use domain\username with lufsmount's ftpfs
[06:57] <JustinLei> who can help me~~~....I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:57] <Mosi> hatake_kak: thanks
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> Mosi: np
[06:58] <wahyu> halo
[06:58] <wahyu> ada orang indonesia enggak ?
[06:58] <Mordof> every time i try to watch my dvd movie, it just freezes black
[06:58] <hyphenated> wahyu: tidak
[06:58] <JustinLei> who can help me~~~....I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help
[06:58] <wahyu> lho situ orang mana ?
[06:59] <amphi> Mordof: try -vo xv ;)
[06:59] <mylo> JustinLei, SATA error, AFAIK you could turn off the SATA feature from the BIOS first and install it
[06:59] <Mordof> amphi, heh
[06:59] <Mordof> grr, mplayer wont close
[07:00] <amphi> Mordof: ctrl-c it in the xterm
[07:00] <_jason> Mordof: have you installed libdvdcss?
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: heh kill -9 `pidof mplayer`
[07:00] <Mordof> _jason, yes, libdvdcss2
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> or killall mplayer
[07:00] <Mordof> ohh, didnt know you could do pidof
[07:00] <JustinLei> sony BOIS can't change SATA feature,have not this item
[07:00] <_jason> you could just do pkill too
[07:01] <hyphenated> bah, all of you should just use fuser :-)
[07:01] <Christopher> how come my stellarium programs is shown in the "science" menu but when i click it, it doesnt load
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: well now you know :)
[07:01] <rewt_> idont think my fan works as much as it should when im in linux?
[07:01] <JustinLei> mylo,sony BOIS can't change SATA feature,have not this item
[07:01] <amphi> Christopher: which program, BTW?
[07:01] <Christopher> Stellarium
[07:01] <JustinLei> mylo:sony BOIS can't change SATA feature,have not this item
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: you're not going to tell me that your fan is electronically controlled via acpi?
[07:02] <rewt_> what's acpi? :-P
[07:02] <amphi> rewt_: acpi -t should show you temp, if you're worried
[07:02] <Christopher> rewt_, i noticed that too.. but to me that is a good thing.. my laptop doesnt overheat as bad using linux as it did in windows
[07:02] <Mordof> JustinLei, what are you saying!?!?!?
[07:02] <Mordof> you what are saying! i dont understand
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: Advanced Configuratable(?) Power Interface
[07:03] <amphi> Mordof: he's saying the bios in his vaio has no option to fiddle with sata settings
[07:03] <alex2456> anyone here get xspim on breezy?
[07:03] <rewt_> Thermal l: ok, 55.0 degrees C
[07:03] <Mordof> amphi, ahh
[07:03] <rewt_> That normal?
[07:03] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: designed to prevent excessive power usage
[07:03] <amphi> rewt_: is the box idling?
[07:03] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: for cpu? depends, google around for answers
[07:03] <amphi> rewt_: it's not dangerous, anyway
[07:03] <JustinLei> Mordof:The computer has the following hardware as far as the hard disk is concerned:Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 80GB SATA HTS541080G9SA00   ICH6M (82801FBM) controller (rev.03).
[07:03] <Christopher> rewt_, mines at 48C
[07:03] <qbaler> anyone here who can help me resize my ntfs partition? (im getting a bad sector error)
[07:03] <Mordof> amphi, not very good at reading semi-broken english
[07:04] <amphi> rewt_: mine is 36C idling
[07:04] <rewt_> idling?
[07:04] <rewt_> im using it right now?
[07:04] <amphi> rewt_: doing bugger all
[07:04] <JustinLei> Mordof:ata1: called with no error (01)!
[07:04] <rewt_> im running a stream and gaim and xchat
[07:04] <Mordof> JustinLei, sounds like trouble
[07:04] <amphi> rewt_: that's not much load - what does top show the load being?
[07:04] <JustinLei> sound?why?
[07:05] <Mordof> hmm?
[07:05] <rewt_> amphi, top?
[07:05] <amphi> rewt_: yes, top - type that in an xterm
[07:05] <JustinLei> There are no drivers by intel or Sony for Linux?
[07:05] <rewt_> load average?
[07:05] <rewt_> 0.57
[07:05] <rewt_> 0.69
[07:06] <rewt_> 0.87 and raising
[07:06] <Mordof> JustinLei, no idea.. try wiki.ubuntu.com and search for a related topic, or search google
[07:06] <Mordof> amphi, my idle is 50C :P
[07:06] <JustinLei> Mordof:Thanks
[07:06] <mebaran151> in dapper
[07:06] <mebaran151> why has ifconfig been removed from the base
[07:06] <amphi> Mordof: heh; mine was ~42C but I 'undervolted' the cpu
[07:06] <mebaran151> I mean from the path
[07:07] <mebaran151> of the normal user that is
[07:07] <Mordof> amphi, isnt that a bit dangerous?
[07:07] <amphi> Mordof: if you lower the freq voltages too far, yeah, crash horribly ;)
[07:07] <navyn> hey how many kilobytes is 256 mb?
[07:07] <adriyel> 256,000
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> 1 :)
[07:07] <wastrel> navyn:  ask google
[07:07] <Mordof> adriyel, nope
[07:07] <Mordof> navyn, 256x1024
[07:07] <wastrel> navyn:  google calculator = awesome
[07:08] <adriyel> want the exact number?
[07:08] <adriyel> you didn't specify :|
[07:08] <qbaler> anyone here who can help me resize my ntfs partition? (im getting a bad sector error)
[07:08] <mebaran151> why isn't ifconfig part of the standard path
[07:08] <amphi> Mordof: I tested it for a good while at each freq with mprime's torture option
[07:08] <mebaran151> just curious
[07:08] <Mordof> amphi, ohh i see
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> mebaran151,  where it at? sbin?
[07:08] <amphi> Mordof: until I found a voltage that was ok
[07:08] <Mordof> amphi, cause i dislike my temps...
[07:09] <Mordof> i changed cases, and lost my thermalpaste... the computer shop i went to gave me shitty stuff
[07:09] <amphi> Mordof: there's a kernel patch for centrino cpufreq that provides a sysfs interface to the freq/voltage table
[07:09] <navyn> i'm redoing my xorg file, what should i answer to this?  Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[07:09] <Mordof> amphi, centrino? im on amd..
[07:09] <navyn> wastrel, google rocks
[07:09] <amphi> Mordof: I don't know if there's a similar patch
[07:10] <Mordof> amphi, dont worry about it then. idc too much
[07:10] <Mordof> navyn, afaik i selected no, im not sure though, lol
[07:10] <navyn> Mordof, sounds good 2 me
[07:11] <rewt_> why would you boycott google?
[07:13] <wastrel> because of their china ting
[07:13] <wastrel> thing
[07:13] <qbaler> anyone here who can help me resize my ntfs partition? (im getting a bad sector error) (can anyone hear this?)
[07:13] <Madpilot> there's a great "Goolag" graphic out on the web somewhere :P
[07:13] <rewt_> what china thing
[07:14] <qbaler> can anyone hear me?
[07:14] <rewt_> qbaler i cant i can read you though ;)
[07:14] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: the great firewall of china
[07:14] <rewt_> hatake_kakashi,  huh?
[07:14] <qbaler> ok just making sure
[07:14] <Christopher> is it a lengthy process to get a usb hd recognized so i can access the media on it?
[07:14] <qbaler> how long it usualy take to get responses on the forums for help?
[07:15] <elkbuntu> qbaler question dependant, not long usually
[07:15] <qbaler> give it like a day or two?
[07:15] <farous> !tell qbaler about ntfs
[07:15] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: China has blocked many external sites and tries to promote 'healthy' internet lifestyle. Google had to make their own specific google.cn which also enforces the Chinese govt.'s idea
[07:15] <b1ind> Christopher, it got autodetected for me
[07:16] <rewt_> hmph..why did they HAVE to make it?
[07:16] <qbaler> guess i am jumping it .. only been 4 hours
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: because google want's to be known no matter where I suppose.. even MS too wants to be known eveywhere
[07:16] <elkbuntu> qbaler overnight if you want a variety of answers, but usually you'll get an answer in an hour or two
[07:16] <Christopher> b1ind, did something show you it was autodetected as soon as you plugged it in
[07:16] <rewt_> hmph
[07:17] <rewt_> so china has blocked google.com?
[07:17] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: probably, but not google.cn
[07:17] <b1ind> don't remember, but if you're using gnome, check in the places menu for a XXgb volume
[07:17] <mzuverink> I am running fetchmail as a cron job and it sends me an email every time it executes, how can i get it to stop doing this?
[07:17] <Christopher> b1ind, nope using FLUX
[07:17] <qbaler> elkbuntu i sure hope someone can help me with something other then "ur screwed"
[07:18] <b1ind> check /media
[07:18] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: it seemed they made it quite easy to bypass
[07:18] <rewt_> So does china enforce googlemail? so they wouldhave www.gmail.cn?
[07:18] <b1ind> Christopher, for me, its /media/usbdisk/
[07:18] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: I believe they made a deal with the Chinese govt. if that's what you meant
[07:18] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: dunno, I don't live there
[07:18] <wastrel> mzuverink:  cron mails any stdout output from the jobs it runs
[07:18] <elkbuntu> guys this google topic should probably go to the offtopic channel
[07:19] <wastrel> mzuverink:  standard method is to pipe the command to /dev/null  in the cron entry
[07:19] <rewt_> AH HAHAHAH they do have a gmail.cn
[07:19] <Christopher> b1ind, i dont know how to check /media
[07:19] <b1ind> ahh, hmm
[07:20] <Christopher> wait
[07:20] <Christopher> b1ind, nmd i do
[07:20] <b1ind> is it there?
[07:20] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: no, I meant ISTR that it was not difficult to get out of the google.cn jail
[07:20] <mzuverink> wastrel: how do you do that? I am new to linux and it took me forever to figure out how to make it run as a cron job
[07:20] <Christopher> b1ind, but it doesnt list a usbdisk
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: ISTR?
[07:20] <b1ind> hmm, then i'm outta my league :(
[07:20] <Christopher> just cdrom and floppy
[07:20] <b1ind> sorry Christopher
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> in standard terms r(?) ?
[07:21] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: 'I seem to recall'
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> ahh
[07:21] <Kyo> so the bash shell is the most common?
[07:21] <b1ind> iirc's lesser known sibling
[07:21] <Kyo> as oppose to the c and korn shell
[07:21] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: I'm not sure why google is getting all this flak, yahoo did much worse, actually shopping a journalist to the .cn authorities
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: like I said, if you are surfing using non cn related IP, netblock, maybe its not filtered for you, but maybe when you are in there. Maybe the rules are different
[07:22] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: hence they did get a bit of a flame for the Chinese govt.
[07:22] <hatake_kakashi> anyway its OT as said before
[07:22] <heliotrope> after i've compiled and tried to run a .cc file in anjuta it didnt do anything, does anyone know how to run anjuta?
[07:22] <Christopher> b1ind, i know it shows up in GNOME no problem.. pops right up on the desktop
[07:22] <rewt_> i just made a rewt.axs@gmail.cn account............current usage 0.0% of 20.0M   they getting gipped ah haha
[07:23] <wastrel> mzuverink:  /etc/crontab   is the file
[07:23] <b1ind> Christopher, might have to do w/ dbus and hal... maybe somewhere to look
[07:23] <wastrel> mzuverink:  unless it's in your user crontab, in which case  crontab -e
[07:23] <rewt_> iknow what cron does, but why does ubuntu use it daily?
[07:23] <rewt_> what taks is itperforming?
[07:23] <wastrel> mzuverink:  i don't know if ubuntu has a GUI tool for cron management
[07:24] <mzuverink> wastrel: what would I enter in the command, I am using webmin to add the cron job
[07:24] <Christopher> b1ind, what are those?
[07:24] <wastrel> mzuverink:  oh.  well just add  | /dev/null  to the end of your fetchmail command
[07:24] <b1ind> they are some things for hardware abstraction and 'i think' hardware autodetection
[07:24] <bk> does anyone program gtk+ apps in ubuntu?
[07:24] <b1ind> like i said, im probably not the best person to help you
[07:25] <wastrel> mzuverink:  fetchmail -some -options  | /dev/null      the | sends the output to the next program or file, and /dev/null is the bitbucket
[07:25] <llama32> hi. im getting really angry that apt keeps forgetting everything or something. it seems to automatically update at times im not on the net, then give up and i have to run apt-get update before i install anything. it seems to happen possibly more than daily. how do i disable this? im on dialup so apt-get update is a serious pain (extra slow dialup too).
[07:25] <amphi> bk: I have done a little gtk programming, on debian
[07:26] <bk> amphi: have u setup gtk in ubuntu?  i'm about to, but i've never done it before.
[07:26] <[bosco] > allright does anyone in here use suspend 2
[07:26] <wastrel> mzuverink:  it's traditional to pipe commands in the cron files to /dev/null for just this reason :] 
[07:27] <Christopher> b1ind,  thanks anyways
[07:27] <Christopher> its not a problem... i have others i need to figure out heh
[07:27] <amphi> bk: what do you mean, 'set up' ? for programming to gtk, you need many -dev packages - glib, gtk, pango, blah blah
[07:27] <Christopher> like why my Stellarium program is shown in apps menu but wont run like its not even there
[07:27] <amphi> Christopher: try running it from a terminal
[07:27] <mzuverink> wastrel: it says permission denied
[07:28] <wastrel> mzuverink:  hmm i'm using the wrong operator
[07:28] <wastrel> mzuverink:  >  instead of |
[07:28] <mzuverink> wastrel: /bin/sh: /dev/null: Permission denied
[07:28] <mzuverink> fetchmail: socket error while fetching from pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com
[07:28] <b1ind> some stupid usb network driver is preventing my kernel from compiling, but i'm sure i eliminated it from my .config
[07:29] <bk> amphi: i don't know how to locate those packages in ubuntu, so i'm going to install them individually by downloading and installing their tarballs.  do you think that's a bad idea?
[07:29] <Christopher> amphi, i did.. got some errors
[07:29] <[bosco] > allright does anyone in here use suspend 2
[07:29] <wastrel> mzuverink:  heh sry it's past my bedtime
[07:29] <amphi> bk: use apt-cache to search for them, eg. apt-cache search  glib dev
[07:29] <amphi> [bosco] : I use suspend 1 (or is it 0) ?
[07:29] <timfrost> llama32, there is a script in /etc/cron.daily called apt, which runs the command 'apt-get update'.  You may wantto disable that script.  But you will then need to manually run 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade'
[07:30] <Christopher> amphi, im missing a GLX extension for display in xlib or something
[07:30] <mzuverink> wastrel: past my bedtime too
[07:30] <amphi> Christopher: pastebin?
[07:30] <mzuverink> wastrel: that seems to be working, thanks
[07:30] <Christopher> sure hold on
[07:31] <amphi> Christopher: BTW, you might also like celestia, if you don't know it
[07:31] <b1ind> Anyone familiar with this module ?drivers/usb/net/zd1211
[07:31] <[bosco] > amphi, i use suspend 2 if you use it  i need some help getting it running
[07:32] <Christopher> amphi, no i dont know it...
[07:32] <ImsDLE> how do i fix this?
[07:32] <ImsDLE> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:32] <bk> amphi: yeah, and then what?  how come glib didn't show up in the synaptic package manager?
[07:32] <Christopher> amphi, is it better than stellarium?
[07:32] <amphi> [bosco] : I don't know how different it is, but I do 'echo disk > /sys/power/state' to suspend to disk
[07:32] <llama32> timfrost: thanks. yes im aware i must update regularly, but on dialup it is incredibly stupid to do it every time i use apt (about daily)
[07:32] <Christopher> amphi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8727
[07:32] <Mez> !tell ImsDLE about backports
[07:33] <wastrel> ok g'night
[07:33] <amphi> Christopher: it's different, it's primarily a solar system simulator (orrery)
[07:33] <[bosco] > amphi, thank you for the info but it is not what i am lookiing for
[07:33] <Christopher> well having both of them will be better then :)
[07:33] <[bosco] > srry
[07:34] <amphi> Christopher: sdl parachute, heh
[07:34] <nomin> [bosco] , what is suspend 2?
[07:34] <amphi> Christopher: you don't seem to have 3d accel working there - what does glxinfo | grep rendering show?
[07:34] <Christopher> amphi, haha yeah what was that about
[07:35] <rewt_> I configured my integrated wireless today. When I manually activate it, it runs fine. While running, if I push my wireless button to turn it off, then push it again to turn it on, it doesn't come back on. I have to manually activate the card again. Is there any way to configure this button to automatically active and set up the card by pushing the wireless button??
[07:35] <amphi> Christopher: the death-cry of the 'simple direct-media layer' library
[07:35] <Christopher> amphi, not good then
[07:35] <Christopher> amphi, "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:35] <Christopher> "
[07:36] <amphi> Christopher: yeah, that means no 3d accel support
[07:36] <Christopher> amphi, the stellarium program worked the other night in GNOME for me... then the next morning it didnt
[07:36] <ImsDLE> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
[07:36] <ImsDLE> you guys rock
[07:36] <ImsDLE> bless you all!@
[07:38] <wahyu> hello, pls help me,  how to connect ubuntu to Netware ???
[07:39] <ACU> hi guys --  I have trouble connecting from Ubuntu 5.10 to windows shares - I can see some of them (including the folders) but I cannot do anything - not open or whatever ------ some of the shares I cannot see the content at all ---- obviously I can access them from Windows Machine ---   once again from Ubuntu I go smb://servername ----- any help ?
[07:39] <amphi> Christopher: did you run that command I gave you?
[07:40] <TheWinner> hallo all
[07:40] <TheWinner> what the name of nmap in ubuntu
[07:40] <amphi> Christopher: FWIW, celestia also needs 3d accel
[07:40] <Christopher> oh nice
[07:40] <neu> TheWinner: 'nmap'..heh
[07:41] <Christopher> the glxinfo | grep
[07:41] <Christopher>  command
[07:41] <Christopher> ?
[07:41] <TheWinner> neu yah nmap
[07:41] <Christopher> i got the results - amphi, "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:41] <b1ind> if i use make-kpkg, is it normal that it compiles EVERYTHING regardless of whether or not its in the .config?
[07:41] <Christopher> ignore your name of course
[07:41] <amphi> Christopher: oh, ok
[07:41] <rewt_> I configured my integrated wireless today. When I manually activate it, it runs fine. While running, if I push my wireless button to turn it off, then push it again to turn it on, it doesn't come back on. I have to manually activate the card again. Is there any way to configure this button to automatically active and set up the card by pushing the wireless button??
[07:42] <TheWinner> are ubuntu having nmap ??
[07:42] <neu> the name of nmap in ubuntu is nmap
[07:42] <rewt_> What is nmap? :-
[07:42] <Christopher> amphi, how come it worked the other night now.. did i do something to my graphics card?
[07:42] <rewt_> :-P
[07:42] <Madpilot> !info nmap
[07:42] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[07:42] <neu> port scanner and stuff
[07:42] <amphi> Christopher: I don't know, did you?
[07:42] <Christopher> haha have no idea
[07:43] <neu> its in main on dapper :o
[07:43] <amphi> Christopher: what video card is it?
[07:43] <ACU> Another question ---- I run Ubuntu in a PowerPC and I cannot make RealPlayer work at all - is very frustrating - I want to access some broadcasts and I do not know what to do
[07:43] <Christopher> ATI
[07:43] <Christopher> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1
[07:43] <damo21> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+10_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[07:43] <amphi> Christopher: is it supported by the xorg driver? man radeon will tell you if you're not sure
[07:43] <GigaClon> !tell ACU about RestrictedFormats
[07:44] <Christopher> yep
[07:44] <Christopher> first thing in the description says its a Xorg driver
[07:44] <damo21> have the ati drivers improved since last year?
[07:44] <Skif> Hrm... I have libdvdread3 installed, but I can't seem to play any DVDs under dapper; has this been discussed somewhere?  (I checked the wiki and didn't see anything immediately obvious, but may well have missed it)
[07:45] <wahyu> hello all, I want to connect my ubuntu to novel netware, any idea ???
[07:45] <Christopher> amphi,  hardware 2D acceleration, hardware 3D acceleration (except
[07:45] <Christopher>  R300 and IGP series cards),
[07:45] <Christopher> so it shoudl be good then
[07:45] <amphi> cool
[07:45] <Skif> This may well be one of those "duh, it's unstable" moments, which is fine, too, as long as that's all it is.
[07:46] <amphi> Christopher: did you reboot since it was working?
[07:46] <Christopher> yes many times
[07:46] <Christopher> i think i reinstalled ubuntu since then though
[07:47] <amphi> Christopher: ah
[07:47] <Mabus06> Skif: are you sure it's not a North American /PAL issue?
[07:47] <amphi> Christopher: does lsmod show the drm and radeon kernel modules loaded?
[07:47] <Skif> Mabus06: quite sure
[07:48] <Mabus06> Skif: have you tried more than one program to run the dvd?
[07:48] <Skif> Mabus06: yes-- totem, xine, mplayer, dvdrip
[07:48] <albacker> what's the problem here : checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:48] <albacker>  ?!
[07:48] <_jason> albacker: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:48] <rewt_> whats the command to start nmap?
[07:48] <Skif> I get this message from xine on the command line: libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB (0x00028d0e)!!
[07:48] <_jason> rewt_: nmap
[07:49] <rewt_> i tried it
[07:49] <rewt_> does ubuntu come with it?
[07:49] <amphi> albacker: apt-get install build-essential
[07:49] <rewt_> or must u install it
[07:49] <Mabus06> Skif: err, didn't mean to pm you.
[07:49] <_jason> rewt_: did you install it?, no sudo apt-get install nmap
[07:49] <albacker> _jason, amphi, thanks !
[07:49] <rewt_> so how do I use this "nmap" what is it good for?
[07:50] <Skif> Mabus06: no problem.
[07:50] <_jason> rewt_: http://www.insecure.org/nmap/
[07:50] <Christopher> amphi, i dont see a "drm" or anything listed as "radeon or radeon kernel" in the list
[07:50] <Skif> I just wish I could tell if it's a bad disc (netflix discs often come somewhat scratched), or if there's some problem with libdvdread3 :-\
[07:50] <amphi> Christopher: try modprobe drm
[07:51] <Skif> But I have tried multiple discs, and they all fail similarly.
[07:51] <amphi> Skif: that's not caused by a scratch, I wouldn't say
[07:51] <amphi> Christopher: pm?
[07:51] <Skif> amphi: I wouldn't think so either, though dvdrip complaints read as if it might be.
[07:51] <Christopher> amphi, got a fatal: error
[07:51] <amphi> Christopher: no such module?
[07:52] <Christopher> FATAL: Error inserting drm (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Operation not permitted
[07:52] <amphi> Christopher: sudo modprobe drm
[07:52] <Christopher> i was about to say shoudl i put sudo in front of it
[07:53] <albacker> _jason, : http://rafb.net/paste/results/g1CKFy15.html
[07:53] <Christopher> amphi, i did that and nothing happens just gives me another prompt
[07:53] <amphi> Christopher: you are not 'identified to services' so I cannot receive your PMs, if any
[07:54] <rewt_> anyone want to take the time to teach me a few things on nmap?
[07:54] <rewt_> :)
[07:54] <amphi> Christopher: that's good; try modprobe radeon
[07:54] <Madpilot> rewt_: "man nmap" in a terminal
[07:54] <hatake_kakashi> man nmap
[07:54] <quicksilver3> Does anyone know how I could get a eg1032v3 linksys adapter working under ubuntu?
[07:54] <_jason> albacker: ubuntu seperates packages that are needed for compiling with a -dev suffix.  For instance, you probably need libxml2-dev
[07:54] <Christopher> amphi,  get my pms?
[07:54] <albacker> aha k,
[07:55] <albacker> thnx
[07:55] <amphi> Christopher: no; you need to /msg nickserv ident <your_passwd>
[07:55] <amphi> Christopher: assuming your nick is registered
[07:55] <Christopher> i dont know if it is or not
[07:56] <Madpilot> Christopher: /msg nickserv help
[07:56] <quicksilver3> Does anyone know how I could get that adapter working under ubuntu?
[07:56] <Christopher> amphi, i got the same response with the fatal:error message with modprobe radeon
[07:56] <amphi> Christopher: it won't be unless you registerd it
[07:56] <amphi> Christopher: sorry, there's an implicit 'sudo' prepended ;)
[07:58] <ACU> at the begining I felt very frustrated with Debian ---- and switch to ubuntu -- now I think that there is almos no difference between them ---- they are both very difficult ------- every step is challenging  and time consuming --- now I want to conect to VPN ------ also I want to be able to log in a windows domain ----- is just painfull---- it may take few months to solve something which is suposed to be natural ---- any sugestions
[07:59] <amphi> logging on to a windows domain is _natural_? wtf?
[08:00] <Christopher> amphi, k i did the sudo modprobe radeon.. brought another prompt up
[08:00] <albacker> _jason,  i got libxml2-dev and i still get the same error.
[08:00] <quicksilver3> As I stated above I am trying to get a eg1032v3 linksys adapter working under ubuntu...Im sorry if im sounding annoying but i would appreciate some guidance.
[08:00] <albacker> _jason, should i get libxml-dev ?
[08:00] <_jason> albacker: what are you compiling?
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, glade
[08:01] <albacker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/FPrFFr90.html << the error.
[08:01] <_jason> albacker: do you know glade is in the repos?
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, there's and old version of glade there.
[08:01] <amphi> Christopher: you'll almost certainly need to restart X, but you could try glxinfo | grep rendering before, just in case
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, Version: 0.6.4-13.1
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, im compiling 2.0
[08:02] <_jason> albacker: install whatever you need for gtk+-2.0, that's what the error says
[08:02] <rewt_> nmap is very confusing
[08:02] <albacker> rewt_, no its not, just read man.
[08:02] <albacker> _jason, ?
[08:02] <rewt_> i am all these packet types are confusing me.
[08:02] <albacker> _jason, man i don't know what i do actually need ?
[08:03] <_jason> albacker: actually, easiest is to do 'sudo apt-get build-dep glade'
[08:03] <Christopher> k ill do that now
[08:03] <cafuego> ACU: Either look for documentation on google (easy) or use Windows, if you want windows functionality.  the windows domain logons would require pam_ldap and kerberos at a minimum (it would be easier if microsoft published specifications) - the vpn can be done with pptp. Google for 'ppptconfig ubuntu'.
[08:03] <Sonobana> i have problem in dapper. I cant set default locale
[08:03] <akant> Can anyone here suggest a good provider for strictly email access?  I would like something smaller with IMAP, Web access to mail, 1 gig limit .. maybe a shell account?  Any email providers run ubuntu ? I would support them :p
[08:04] <Christopher> amphi, restart computer or just the desktop with the restart in the menu in FLUX
[08:04] <rewt_> IMAP
[08:04] <rewt_> ?
[08:04] <albacker> _jason, never used build-dep ! what does it do ?
[08:04] <cafuego> imap!
[08:04] <amphi> Christopher: just restart X
[08:04] <akant> ?
[08:04] <_jason> albacker: installs the build dependencies for the package
[08:04] <cafuego> the *only* way to store your mail.
[08:04] <rewt_> cafuego, explain a little more?
[08:04] <akant> much nicer than POP
[08:05] <rewt_> sigh i need an nmap teacher to explain things a little easier than the manual has it
[08:05] <cafuego> rewt_: imap is a mail access protocol. As opposed to pop, you leave all mails on the server. SO you xcna access them from ANYWHERE with an imap client (virtually all webmail packages use imap too).
[08:06] <rewt_> why not use gmail?
[08:06] <akant> You can also create a folder structure with imap
[08:06] <akant> and leave it on the server
[08:06] <albacker> /join #vim
[08:06] <albacker> Oops :S
[08:07] <Christopher> k restarted
[08:07] <akant> what is the best imap server? wsimap? (washington's ??)
[08:07] <cafuego> rewt_: gmail is slow, only has oen address, and is limited to 1GB
[08:07] <akant> courier?
[08:07] <cafuego> akant: I prefer courier; dovecot is nice too.
[08:07] <Sonobana> cafuego: gmails limit is  2695.226785
[08:07] <Sonobana> MB
[08:07] <amphi> Christopher: glxinfo | grep rendering
[08:07] <rewt_> cafuego.....u can have multiple addresses? andits almost 3 gig limit?
[08:08] <akant> I remember dovecot Ill have to try that one again.
[08:08] <ACU> cafuego ---- Thanks ---- I am going to do both ----- pam_ldap  use windows --- I read that Xandros solve the problem - I wonder how  for pptp I did not know can do VPN ---thank again
[08:08] <n4cht> k.  quickest way to enable nvidia drivers in hoary?  (i remember this being painfully simple, but since i don't remember, i'd rather ask than risk breaking something.)
[08:08] <cafuego> Sonobana: My imap is currently limited to 160GB and unlimited emails.
[08:08] <Christopher> amphi, same response
[08:08] <akant> courier is one complete package correct? which has built in web mail and black boxing?
[08:08] <amphi> Christopher: bugger
[08:08] <rewt_> cafuego...u can have multiple emails in gmail
[08:08] <Christopher> amphi,  should i restart my computer maybe?
[08:08] <cafuego> akant: Yes-ss..
[08:08] <cafuego> akant: it's split up for purposes of ubuntu installation, though.
[08:09] <frogzoo> archiving question - how can I cut up a tar file into decent sized chunks - say 1gig - for ferrying via usb key?
[08:09] <akant> very cool
[08:09] <amphi> Christopher: did you do alt-ctrl-backspace?
[08:09] <akant> so many packages
[08:09] <akant> I get them confused :)
[08:09] <amphi> frogzoo: split
[08:09] <frogzoo> amphi: much obliged - thx!
[08:09] <akant> I still want to find an isp somewhere that runs ubuntu for mailservers :)
[08:10] <cafuego> rewt_: 3 is still nowhere near enough. Plus gmail won't host my own domains.
[08:10] <frogzoo> akant: plenty of virtual server isps out there... run your own maybe?
[08:10] <akant> not someone in their basement, but a real legite isp
[08:10] <amphi> akant: you would be more likely to find one running debian
[08:10] <cafuego> akant: I doubt there are any, Ubuntu is far too new.
[08:10] <akant> amphi: either or I would subscribe
[08:10] <[bosco] > how do i enable the universal repository
[08:10] <frogzoo> !repos
[08:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:11] <akant> ???
[08:11] <cafuego> No, thankyou.
[08:11] <Christopher> amphi, yeah still gets me the same response
[08:11] <akant> lol
[08:11] <cafuego> We pick our own customers.
[08:12] <akant> consulting firm?
[08:12] <cafuego> akant: Why not set up a decent mail service on your own linux box?
[08:12] <cafuego> akant: Pretty much
[08:12] <amphi> Christopher: register your nick so I can PM you, and vice versa
[08:12] <Christopher> i tried
[08:12] <Christopher> i keep getting some syntax message about my pw when i do what it says it doesnt confirm that i did it right
[08:13] <Madpilot> Christopher: "some syntax message"?
[08:13] <w32> hey is there a way to allow root logins in ubuntu w/ gnome
[08:14] <w32> other than sudo
[08:14] <w32> from the terminal
[08:14] <Christopher> yeah the syntax for the password
[08:14] <ifwntrends> w32: it's in your logon screen setup under security
[08:14] <Christopher> i type "/msg nickserve register <myusername>" click enter
[08:14] <Madpilot> w32: not recommended
[08:15] <Madpilot> Christopher: "nickserv", not serve - no final E
[08:15] <ifwntrends> w32: but not a good idea
[08:15] <w32> i know i just wonder if its possible
[08:15] <Christopher> and then it says >nickerseve< "register <myusername>"
[08:15] <w32> friend says it aint
[08:15] <Madpilot> !root
[08:15] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:15] <Madpilot> w32: the URL above will tell you how, but it isn't recommended
[08:15] <Angel_Dex> Hello all
[08:16] <w32> thx madpilot
[08:16] <Christopher> ahh i dont know how to do it
[08:16] <Christopher> its saying christopher is already registered but i typed in "/msg nickserv register Embryo
[08:17] <nicholasw> Can someone help me with WPA?
[08:17] <Madpilot> Christopher: /msg nickserv help
[08:18] <Christopher> Madpilot, "-NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>"
[08:18] <Christopher> thats the syntax message i get
[08:19] <w32> then type /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>
[08:19] <bk> l
[08:19] <bk> l
[08:19] <w32> w/ the <>
[08:19] <Christopher> i dont know how to do it
[08:19] <Christopher> im at the help too
[08:19] <Angel_Dex> How do i play a .swf game?
[08:20] <amphi> Christopher: you are trying to register 'Christopher' ?
[08:20] <ice_1963> what is swf game?
[08:20] <bk> testing
[08:20] <Christopher> how exactly do i register my name because /msg nickserv register <mynewname> doesnt work
[08:21] <Christopher> heres what im typing "/msg nickserv register Embryo
[08:21] <amphi> Christopher: /nick newname then /msg nickserv register your_password
[08:21] <bk> how do i change my text color in here?
[08:22] <amphi> heh
[08:23] <rewt_> how do i bridge my eth andwireless?
[08:24] <Christoffer> damn seems like every nick name is owned
[08:24] <Christoffer> lets see
[08:24] <Christoffer> 
[08:24] <rewt_> How do I bridge my wireless and ethernet connections in breezy?
[08:24] <amphi> !tell rewt_ about repeat
[08:25] <OmegaAlpha> ok
[08:26] <henk> rewt_, i'm guessing you use brctl (bridge utils) just like any other set of nics..
[08:26] <Madpilot> OmegaAlpha: finally found a non-reg'd nick? :P
[08:26] <DrDT> henk: he asked in #wireless, he doesn't ahve brctl, so I told him to ask here.
[08:26] <w32> i have decided that people that kill frogs should be shot
[08:26] <rewt_> i typed brctl into my terminal and it said command not found
[08:26] <w32> twice @ least
[08:26] <rewt_> w32 i frog gig all the time ;)
[08:26] <ice_1963> ok
[08:27] <ice_1963> :0)
[08:27] <Imsdle> i can't install skype :(
[08:27] <DrDT> ubuntu doesn't ahve w/ brctl by deafult?
[08:27] <Imsdle> i try and do a apt-get update and i get Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main /binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[08:27] <DrDT> *come
[08:28] <henk> rewt_, for that kind of thing use something like this: " apt-cache search bridge " that will give you all kinds of packages that have something to do with bridges. one of them is bridge-utils you want that one
[08:28] <ice_1963> why can't you install skype
[08:29] <OmegaAlpha> Madpilot, yep
[08:29] <rewt_> k i got bridge utils
[08:29] <rewt_> now what
[08:29] <OmegaAlpha> i didnt realize my Embryo one worked.. but it said it was owned already
[08:29] <Imsdle> anyone?
[08:30] <rewt_> brctl works now
[08:30] <rewt_> but if gave me like 50 options?
[08:30] <ifwntrends> anyone know of a good dvd ripper/decrypter?
[08:30] <bk> testing
[08:30] <bk> testing
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: acidrip.
[08:30] <DrDT> rewt_: try
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl addbr bridge1
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl addif bridge1 eth0
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl addif bridge1 eth1
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl show
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: that btw effectively relies on mplayer and mencoder
[08:30] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: thanks
[08:30] <DrDT> substituting those interfaces with yours, of course
[08:31] <henk> rewt_, now you go to google and ask " Setting up a bridge with brctl" and start reading
[08:31] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: i've got mplayer, is mencoder in the repos by any chance?
[08:31] <bk> testing
[08:31] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: nfi, I compiled mine from source with as much variety in extension support as possible from the universe/multiverse repos.
[08:31] <w32> furthemore, those that are not friends of frogs are enemies and should also be shot
[08:32] <w32> @ least twice
[08:32] <DrDT> w32: frogs' legs are delicious
[08:32] <ice_1963> etch
[08:32] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: ok, thanks
[08:32] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: and that then messed up my installation more or less as a result
[08:32] <ifwntrends> haha
[08:33] <henk> bk, what are you testing? How many times you can say testing before someone gets annoyed ;) ??
[08:33] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: well maybe i'll give it a shot anyhow
[08:33] <bk> i'm trying to change the color of my text.  how do i do it?
[08:34] <hatake_kakashi> bk: depends on your irc client.. and btw this chan _strips_ colours afaik
[08:34] <ice_1963> are you running kde or gnome?
[08:34] <DrDT> bk: red filter plastic for your monitor
[08:34] <w32> DrDT: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGHHHH
[08:34] <DrDT> w32: KHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
[08:34] <ice_1963> bk kde or gnome
[08:35] <bk> i see the text people write to me is red, but the text i type out is light grey (which is hard to read)
[08:35] <bk> gnome
[08:35] <ice_1963> xchat
[08:35] <bk> yes
[08:35] <ice_1963> in settings
[08:36] <henk> that depends where you want to change it? You may need to buy a different pencil filling.. or pick up the other crayon or do <font color=#ff00ff>text</font>.... Or you may be trying to influence the color your text has in this chat in which case you should probably read the docs of you chatclient
[08:36] <Ryubuntu> I'm running Ubuntu on my fujitsu lifebook S6210 laptop and the resolution is 1024 x768. I want to go higher but I can't. Is there any other option to go to higher resolution?
[08:36] <Madpilot> !tell Ryubuntu about fixres
[08:36] <bk> ice_1963, yeah, and then preferences... but which one of these options controls the color of text i type out?
[08:37] <Ryubuntu> Madpilot, thanks
[08:38] <Madpilot> np
[08:38] <ice_1963> i'm running kde with konversation
[08:39] <ice_1963> kde3.5.1 Debian etch :0)
[08:40] <rewt_> DrDT, i did all that and i see bridge name     bridge id               STP enabled     interfaces
[08:40] <rewt_> bridge1         8000.00904befbb5f       yes             eth0
[08:40] <rewt_>                                                         wlan0
[08:41] <nanotube> heya all. so ive tried quite a few games, both from the repos and in the default install, and they all kinda suck... anyone can recommend any decent games for ubuntu?
[08:41] <nanotube> nothing "serious" just something to play once in a while?
[08:42] <Madpilot> nanotube: Enemy Territory, if you're into FPS
[08:42] <foolswisdom> "Show Changes", how do I get it to show more than just the most recent revision?
[08:42] <DrDT> rewt_: looks good, see if your desktop can get an IP from your router/etc. via DHCP
[08:42] <ubuntu_user`> how can I make "apt-get dist-upgrade" automatically remove the old versions of the packages?
[08:42] <nanotube> Madpilot, is that in the repos?
[08:42] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: man apt-get
[08:42] <Madpilot> foolswisdom: in the Ubuntu wiki? "Get Info"
[08:42] <ice_1963> bzflag that's a good game
[08:42] <Madpilot> nanotube: no, but there's a good Ubuntu wiki page about it
[08:42] <ubuntu_user`> hatake - couldn't find it there
[08:43] <hunterp> how can  i turn off password in screensaver. NO,System->preferences-> screensaver does not control this
[08:43] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: couldn't find it in man apt-get, apt_preferences and apt.conf
[08:43] <Madpilot> nanotube: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[08:43] <nanotube> Madpilot, ah, so its like a giant 500mib install, then?
[08:43] <foolswisdom> Madpilot: o, thank you, sorry for asking, "Show Changes" is confusing ;-)
[08:43] <Madpilot> nanotube: yeah, it's a massive download
[08:43] <nanotube> ice_1963, hmm, i might try that...
[08:44] <nanotube> Madpilot, heh, well, i did do quite a bit of fps back in the day, but these days i am trying to avoid anything addictive, and anything massive. ;) so would you happen to know of anything small and "casual" like? :)
[08:44] <rewt__> DrDT, wow that bridge killed my wireless connection aswell.
[08:44] <Madpilot> foolswisdom: some of the wiki options are a bit odd
[08:44] <ice_1963> you better have a good video card that game lol
[08:45] <Madpilot> nanotube: planetpenguin-racer - in the repos, fast & goofy
[08:45] <ice_1963> i run nvidia
[08:45] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: or I suppose you could have a crond doing the cleaning up for you
[08:46] <nanotube> Madpilot, hmm, i will give it a shot. :)
[08:46] <ifwntrends> would i use ifconfig to get the info to set up a static ip?
[08:46] <ajay> hi everybody.....
[08:46] <nanotube> ifwntrends, yes, you can use ifconfig to set up a static ip
[08:47] <nanotube> ifwntrends, "ifconfig eth0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" sets the ip of interface eth0 to the specified ip
[08:47] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi:
[08:47] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: how can i make crond do it for me?
[08:47] <marre> Anyone here that feels urged to help a total linux newbie with some cedega problems please?
[08:47] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi:  I read what you said but I don't understand what I read.
[08:47] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: hmm.. ok what part? maybe I might be able to help
[08:48] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: there is no man crond
[08:48] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, there is "man crontab"
[08:48] <DrDT> rewt_: nice to know it's ahvign an effect
[08:48] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: well not sure exactly how, but you want it to purge all unnecessary files right? you can do a simple script that deletes unnecessary files, and then attach that to the cron daemon
[08:48] <ubuntu_user`> 10x nanotube
[08:48] <DrDT> this place is too busy, I'm going back to #wireless
[08:48] <cafuego> ubuntu_user`: man 5 crontab, in fact
[08:49] <ifwntrends> nanotube: ok then mask is the subnet mask, and i assume i'd use bcast for the gateway address?
[08:49] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: though I thought synaptic can do it as well, albeit being a frontend
[08:49] <nanotube> ifwntrends, if you set inet, the bcast and subnetmask are set automatically, based on your ip
[08:49] <nanotube> ifwntrends, but you can change them if you really want to, i suppose :)
[08:50] <ifwntrends> nanotube: oh, i think i'll just stick with the defaults haha
[08:50] <nanotube> ifwntrends, i have found that to be a good choice, myself. :)
[08:50] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: cron seems to be rather hard - it takes too much time to get all the names; i will try synaptic
[08:50] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: let's see, I really do not understand any of it, but  I ran the printer configuration, and it cannot find the printer on the network,sven though smbtree sees it
[08:51] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: although it seems strange how synaptic can do something that apt-get cannot
[08:51] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, to clean up useless stuff from aptget, you can just issue command "apt-get clean"
[08:51] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: assuming you are using kubuntu, under KDE and konqueror, type in the address bar smb:/
[08:51] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: well there you go, what nanotube said
[08:52] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, crontab is a bit of a pain, but its nice if you want to set something up to run automatically. but there is really no need to put "apt-get clean" into crontab, because its not something you have to do very frequently anyway.
[08:52] <ubuntu_user`> nanotube: apt-get clean does old dependancies
[08:52] <ice_1963> what kernel is ubuntu running with?
[08:52] <Imsdle> can someone give me an example of the sources.list that works?
[08:52] <papiluski> Anybody install Asterisk iPBX on Ubuntu
[08:52] <cafuego> !easysource
[08:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:52] <papiluski> to help
[08:53] <Madpilot> ice_1963: easy way to find out - "uname -r" in a terminal
[08:53] <hatake_kakashi> ice_1963: uname -r
[08:53] <hatake_kakashi> blah
[08:54] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, if you check "man apt-get", and scroll down (or search) to the "clean" and "autoclean" option descriptions, you will see what it does. according to the manpage, "clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file"
[08:54] <ice_1963> i'm running etch
[08:54] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: i did that , and it came up with a window that shows me iowa
[08:54] <ice_1963> kde3.5
[08:54] <nanotube> Imsdle, yes i can, hold on...
[08:54] <Madpilot> ice_1963: ah - 2.6.12-10-k7 is what I'm running, that's current for Breezy (with a K7 CPU, obviously...)
[08:54] <nanotube> Imsdle, http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles#Ubuntu_Repositories_and_sources.list (this is mine)
[08:55] <ice_1963> ok
[08:55] <nomad111> hi every1 where can i find tutorials on using the ubuntu terminal
[08:55] <ubuntu_user`> nanotube: apt-get clean does not seem to recongnize old version of installed packages as obsolete for me
[08:55] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: that's the computer name right? click on it and you can see the shares, I believe you can also see the printer shared if smbtree can see it.. hopefully under smbtree the printer is not shared with $ sign behind it, or else that's a hidden share
[08:55] <Madpilot> !tell nomad111 about cli
[08:55] <kc> anyone got a link to a good hardware compatibility list for unbuntu?
[08:55] <[bosco] > use --targets to display help on valid targets.
[08:55] <Madpilot> kc: basic stuff here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:56] <hatake_kakashi> nomad111: google for 'bash HOWTO'
[08:56] <liable> kc: its the kernel more than the distro for hardware stuff
[08:56] <Ryubuntu> !tell Ryubuntu  about cli
[08:56] <nomad111> thx ppl
[08:56] <rewt__> How do I set my integrated wireless button to work right?
[08:56] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, hmm... how about "autoclean"...
[08:56] <ice_1963> i'm running kernel 2.6.15.1
[08:56] <kc> thanks
[08:56] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: my husband says no that, that is the workgroup
[08:56] <liable> no!
[08:56] <ubuntu_user`> nanotube: i guess it would be better to remove old versions manually - it is boring, but works all the time
[08:57] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: ahh ok, when you double click on it, you should see the computers that are under those workgroups, click on the appropriate one to see the shares
[08:57] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, well, ok... sorry if i couldnt be of much help. :|
[08:57] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi:  ok, i will do that
[08:58] <mebaran151> I have two displays, a DVI LCD panel and a analog CRT
[08:58] <mebaran151> I want to default to the DVI LCD, but X chooses the Analog CRT, even though during boot, it displays on the DVI
[08:58] <mebaran151> how do I make X choose the DVI displa
[08:59] <rewt__> How do I setup my integrated wireless button?
[08:59] <nomad111> does any1 use kde on ubuntu or do u just use kubuntu
[08:59] <rewt__> IF I manually activate my integrated wireless card, my light on my button turns on like it should when the card is in use.
[08:59] <Madpilot> nomad111: Kubuntu *is* Ubuntu+KDE
[08:59] <rewt__> If I push the button to turn off the card then push it again to turn it back on, it doesnt turn back on. I have to manually reactivate the card
[08:59] <nomad111> ah k
[08:59] <Imsdle> THANK YOU nanotube
[08:59] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: I do
[09:00] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: i see the the shares, but i do not see the printer being shared
[09:00] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: err nm
[09:00] <hatake_kakashi> nomad111: I do
[09:00] <nomad111> neways im just trying to figure out how to update firefox through the console
[09:00] <nanotube> nomad111, if you want to try kde on ubuntu, you can install the "kubuntu-desktop" package (that is, if you are already running on ubuntu). otherwise, if you have not installed yet and want to use kde, like Madpilot says, get kubuntu, which is the same thing.
[09:00] <mebaran151> could anyone point me to an xinerama howto then
[09:00] <nanotube> Imsdle, no prob. have fun. :)
[09:00] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: what about under smbtree? did it show the printer but behind that shared name it has $ sign appended to the back of it?
[09:00] <papiluski> Anybody with good experience on ubuntu VOIP Solutions
[09:00] <nomad111> thx for the tip
[09:00] <papiluski> Like Asterisk
[09:00] <marre> Need some help with ubuntu and cedega please, anyone?
[09:01] <nanotube> papiluski, well, i dont have any good experience... but i hear skype is good. :)
[09:01] <wahyu> hi all, how to change root pwd, in ubuntu 5.10 ??
[09:01] <nanotube> nomad111, , have you seen the ff1.5 installation guide?
[09:01] <nanotube> !tell wahyu about rootsudo
[09:02] <papiluski> nanotube: skype is just for basic p2p
[09:02] <papiluski> voice
[09:02] <nanotube> papiluski, yes... you are looking for something else?
[09:02] <hatake_kakashi> wahyu: why would you want to do that?
[09:02] <nanotube> hatake_kakashi, hehe yea, good question. :)
[09:03] <papiluski> but Astersik seems to be the upcoming opensource revolution that will shake the entire telephony world like linux is doing
[09:03] <nanotube> papiluski, hm, that's what ive heard. ive also heard that its a big pain to set up. (well, and i know that you need special hardware to use it - just a regular modem doesnt do it)...
[09:03] <papiluski> With your Linux box in ur bedroom and an internet access
[09:03] <papiluski> you can setup a telephone exchange
[09:04] <mebaran151> anybody know how to specify which adapter for X to use
[09:04] <[bosco] > so what is module image and the kernal heders in ubuntu
[09:04] <pvh> Is Dapper 'apt-get dist-upgrade'able right now?
[09:04] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: here is what i saw,Adam\epsonr200 does not have the $, but adam\ptint does have the $ behind it
[09:04] <papiluski> for ur entire community
[09:04] <papiluski> cheaply
[09:04] <mebaran151> not adapter but head
[09:04] <mebaran151> as my card has two heads
[09:04] <hatake_kakashi> wahyu: the root account is not accessible for security purposes, they promote the idea of using sudo, and if you change the root password, etc you have opened up to a flaw which can be problematic.. adding to that even if you enabled root, you cannot use X with root
[09:04] <papiluski> BUt digium.com will be having a boot camp
[09:04] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: you mean adam\print$ ?
[09:04] <papiluski> march ending and i plan to be there
[09:05] <nanotube> papiluski, heh
[09:05] <papiluski> Y
[09:05] <nanotube> mebaran151, two heads are better than one, eh? :)
[09:05] <papiluski> It comes with what the telco buy with fat dollars for almost nothing
[09:05] <Madpilot> !tell wahyu about root
[09:06] <mebaran151> nanotube
[09:06] <papiluski> They say you could cluster your machines to serve more people
[09:06] <mebaran151> in this case
[09:06] <mebaran151> yes
[09:06] <mebaran151> well it will be
[09:06] <mebaran151> he first head is my normal DVI monitor
[09:06] <mebaran151> the second is my new projector
[09:06] <mebaran151> running vim on a projector is just silly
[09:06] <mebaran151> I'd like to be able to switch between the two
[09:06] <papiluski> A calling card business is just easy to handle by Asterisk
[09:07] <mebaran151> like have vt7 be my normal monitor
[09:07] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:07] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:07] <mebaran151> and vt8 be the projector
[09:07] <sumedha> Is xorg in ubunto 5.10 compiled with support for bitmap fonts ?
[09:07] <papiluski> so i want to get enough info be4 going for the bootcamp
[09:07] <nanotube> mebaran151, sorry, i dont really have any idea how to do that...
[09:07] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: my husband just showed me how to do a pastebin, and does this help?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8728
[09:08] <mebaran151> any place I could look
[09:08] <marre> So, noone ever have got any problems with cedega/wine in here?
[09:08] <mebaran151> it feels so passe to unplug then replug
[09:08] <nanotube> mebaran151, try searching the ubuntu forums? ubuntuforums.org ?
[09:08] <nanotube> marre, i never used cedega or wine... so far i am happy with what ubuntu has for me. :)
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: hmm, crap.. can you pm me with the details, rather than the url because I'm still updating and did not access console browser
[09:09] <nanotube> marre, though i have been giving some thought to trying to get IE running under wine, for that occasional site that just doest like firefox...
[09:09] <mebaran151> tried, they don't help so much
[09:09] <rewt__> hatake_kakashi, you said you do?
[09:09] <marre> Ok, thanks for replying tho Nanotube
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: err about?
[09:09] <nanotube> mebaran151, hrm... well, then there is google... or you can just wait around until someone who knows comes along. :)
[09:10] <Ribs> nanotube: And when you get that working, you need to e-mail webmaster@site.com and tell him to learn how to code properly
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: wifi? no it was my mistake
[09:10] <nanotube> marre, no prob. i was feeling very conversational :)
[09:10] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: how do i pm?
[09:10] <marre> Hehe
[09:11] <nanotube> Ribs, the site i am thinking of is my bank. i emailed them and was like, dudes, whats up with no firefox support? and they were like, sorry, at this time we only support ie. them's the apples.
[09:11] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: do you see a new window popup?
[09:11] <nanotube> Ribs, so unfortunately... i am kinda stuck. ;)
[09:11] <Ribs> nanotube: ah yes, I get the same with one of my credit card sites... They say it's due to IE 'security features' LOL
[09:11] <nanotube> Ribs, haha yea nice one there
[09:11] <bur[n] er> is anyone using xserver-xgl?
[09:12] <Ribs> However, my actual bank supports firefox
[09:12] <nanotube> cool. which bank is that?
[09:12] <Ribs> if my bank was IE only, I was switch bank
[09:12] <Ribs> nanotube: I dunno where in the world you are, but it's Natwest if you live in the UK
[09:12] <bur[n] er> wellsfargo and chase support firefox :)
[09:12] <Ribs> http://www.natwest.com/global_options.asp?id=GLOBAL/ACCESSIBILITY
[09:12] <nanotube> Ribs, well, my bank provides some nice goodies, so i dont think i would switch just cuz of ie. they reimburse my atm fees, and pay nice interest on my checking account...
[09:13] <nanotube> Ribs, iam in the usa, so unfortunately no natwest for me. :(
[09:13] <Ribs> atm fees?
[09:13] <Ribs> Man, you people are getting screwed over
[09:13] <nanotube> Ribs, you do not have atm fees in uk?
[09:13] <Ribs> not from the banks, no
[09:13] <Ribs> There was this whole thing about 6 years back, when banks were chargeing
[09:13] <nanotube> Ribs, so you can just go to any atm, and withdraw money, and no fees?
[09:13] <Madpilot> odd question, but - is it possible to have multiple instances of Totem running?
[09:13] <Ribs> nanotube: Not *any* cash machine
[09:14] <Ribs> nanotube: All the bank cash machines, yes (even if they are not natwest machines)
[09:14] <nanotube> bur[n] er, my bank reimburses me fees that OTHER banks atms charge me.
[09:14] <bur[n] er> nanotube: that's neat
[09:14] <Ribs> but some people run a business just on ATM machines... They tend to be in clubs etc.
[09:14] <nanotube> Ribs, wow, thats kickass! i am moving to the uk tomorrow. :)
[09:14] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: don't think so
[09:14] <rewt__> what is iamp?
[09:14] <Ribs> nanotube: Oh, it doesn't stop there :>
[09:14] <rewt__> imap*?
[09:14] <rewt__> !imap
[09:14] <ubotu> rewt__: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:14] <Ribs> nanotube: I have a saving account, with no tax at all
[09:15] <nanotube> rewt__, imap is an email transfer protocol.
[09:15] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: was afraid so - that's a bit irritating
[09:15] <rewt__> how do you use it?
[09:15] <Ribs> nanotube: Do you guys get charged to recieve calls on mobile phones?
[09:15] <kc> ::sigh:: despite all info about how it should just work, i seem to be having issues with my ati radeon 8500
[09:15] <nanotube> Ribs, cool!
[09:15] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: maybe there's a gconf option?
[09:15] <nanotube> Ribs, yea, we do get charged. you dont?
[09:15] <Ribs> nope :)
[09:15] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: there's a gconf option for everything, it seems - I'll have a look
[09:15] <nanotube> rewt__, well, you need an email client that supports it (like thunderbird, for example)
[09:15] <Ribs> nanotube: IN FACT... one network has just starting PAYING YOU to recieve calls :D
[09:16] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: i don't see one in obvious places :\
[09:16] <Madpilot> Ribs & nanotube: could you take the offtopic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[09:16] <nanotube> rewt__, and then you just connect to the imap mail server, and download your messages from it. and unlike pop, imap will keep mail syncronized between server and your hd.
[09:16] <rewt__> hmm
[09:16] <nanotube> Ribs, dude, wtf is wrong with the us, then? :)
[09:16] <nanotube> Madpilot, sorry, it just kinda grew out of a browser discussion...
[09:16] <Ribs> ohhh, didn't know offtopic existed
[09:17] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: I might just file a bug against Totem, and see what happens...
[09:17] <bur[n] er> so I'm assuming no one uses xserver-xgl
[09:17] <rewt__> say i ran an imap off a mates mail server
[09:17] <nanotube> bur[n] er, i value hard cash over firefox support... i guess i am just easy that way. :)
[09:17] <rewt__> could he check my mail ad see my password?
[09:17] <bur[n] er> nanotube: i've got no IE to use ;)  choice is made for me
[09:17] <Ribs> rewt__: probably
[09:17] <Madpilot> rewt__: if he had root/sudo/superuser access to that machine, yes he could see everything
[09:18] <nanotube> rewt__, if your mate owns the box, and has root access on it - he can read ANYTHING on that box, including your mail.
[09:18] <SAAD3000> hello, where do i find the new kernel for 5.10?
[09:18] <rewt__> including my password?
[09:18] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: probably not - Opera's IE-faking isn't all that convincing
[09:18] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: not from a Linux box, anyway
[09:18] <nanotube> rewt__, only way to prevent that is to encrypt your mail, with gpg, for example. but that is not very practical for "regular" mail because for encryption the other party has to have gpg too...
[09:19] <Madpilot> rewt__: maybe
[09:19] <SAAD3000> hello, where do i find the new kernel for 5.10?
[09:19] <nanotube> rewt__, he cannot see your password per se, because it is hashed, but he can just sudo to your user, or sudo to root, and he does not need your password at all.
[09:19] <rewt__> hmph ok
[09:19] <nanotube> Ribs, got your pm, but cant reply cuz have to "register"...
[09:19] <rewt__> what is gpg by the way
[09:19] <rewt__> ?
[09:19] <Madpilot> !gpg
[09:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[09:19] <Ribs> that's okay, thought it would be a good one off anyway :>
[09:19] <bur[n] er> gpg == gnu pgp
[09:20] <Ribs> unless you wanna chat or whatever, I can let you through
[09:20] <nanotube> rewt__, but notice, that this is the same whether your mail is on your mate's server, or on the isp's server, or anything - the isp's sysadmins can theoretically read all your mail too. :)
[09:20] <SAAD3000> hello, where do i find an upgrade of the default kernel of 5.10??
[09:20] <rewt__> yea he owns a site and uses his box as his server
[09:21] <nanotube> SAAD3000, what cpu do you have?
[09:21] <a2xm> hi all.. I think I've seting up the samba correctly... I try print from the client and it did send the job to the samba server.. but it didn't print anything.. any helps.. thanks
[09:21] <SAAD3000> nanotube Pentium M processor
[09:21] <nanotube> rewt__, well, if you trust him, you could have your mail on his server. but do recognize the fact that he CAN, if he wants to, read your mail...
[09:21] <jin> whats the command to update things
[09:21] <jin> ???
[09:21] <rewt__> ok, thanks
[09:22] <defrysk> jin, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:22] <jin> thank u
[09:22] <nanotube> SAAD3000, ok, in that case you want to install package "linux-686". that will install the latest kernel for you.
[09:23] <nanotube> jin, or you can use the synaptic package manager, which is a very nice gui interface to apt-get
[09:23] <SAAD3000> nanotube oke where do I find it to download it? Because I can't access the internet from Ubuntu
[09:23] <nanotube> SAAD3000, oh... hmm... let me see now...
[09:23] <jin> ooo
[09:23] <jin> thanks
[09:24] <jin> nah i wanna practice more the the comand line
[09:24] <defrysk> jin, wise choice :)
[09:25] <fek> moin
[09:26] <nanotube> SAAD3000, ok, to download, you will need to get these to .deb packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 and http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-restricted-modules-686
[09:27] <Ribs> nanotube: whoa, bad advice
[09:27] <nanotube> SAAD3000, and then after you transfer them over to your ubuntu box, run "dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[09:27] <Ribs> nanotube: He should install the meta-packages.
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, but you cannot download meta packages
[09:27] <SAAD3000> nanotube only those 2 right.
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, he said he has no net access from ubuntu
[09:27] <Ribs> oh
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, so he has to download debs, and then install
[09:27] <Ribs> sorry, wasn't paying attention :>
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, i would have recommended "linux-686" otherwise :)
[09:27] <nanotube> SAAD3000, yes, i think just those two would do it.
[09:28] <OmegaAlpha> Ribs.. its whats for dinner
[09:28] <SAAD3000> nanotube do you rememver whats the default kernel version of 5.10?
[09:28] <pvh> Oooooh! Compiz!
[09:28] <nanotube> SAAD3000, hrm, hold on, i will check my grub menu :)
[09:28] <Ribs> OmegaAlpha: I'm all bone and no meat
[09:29] <nanotube> SAAD3000, default is "2.6.12-9-386"
[09:31] <SAAD3000> nanotube I hope it recogize my wireless and my get me online.
[09:31] <XFreeMan> SPS, i've isstalled ubuntu but the eth0 is not functioning although i have configured it
[09:31] <nanotube> SAAD3000, what is your wifi card?
[09:32] <nanotube> SAAD3000, i am not sure that the new kernel has any extra wifi support... its just security updates and things like that... afaik.
[09:32] <SAAD3000> nanotube Intel wireless pro 2200 BG
[09:32] <nanotube> SAAD3000, w00t!!!! me too!!!
[09:32] <nanotube> SAAD3000, but my 2200bg worked well right out of the box, with no problems...
[09:32] <SAAD3000> nanotube Under suse didn't detect it.
[09:32] <heliotrope> Seveas, whats up
[09:33] <SAAD3000> nanotube then I have to check my network card because it didn't get me online
[09:33] <SAAD3000> nanotube oke i gtg I'll catch u later on here thanx .
[09:33] <nanotube> SAAD3000, i have never run suse... so dont know what's up with that. but when i unstalled ubuntu on my laptop, with 2200bg wifi, it just worked
[09:33] <nanotube> SAAD3000, ok, good luck :)
[09:33] <heliotrope> can anyone help me with g++
[09:33] <lqtruong> hi
[09:33] <SAAD3000> nanotube whats ur laptop?
[09:33] <jin> i got a couple of questions....
[09:33] <SAAD3000> am on laptop now
[09:33] <nanotube> dell inspiron 5150
[09:33] <lqtruong> hi
[09:33] <SAAD3000> ohh oke
[09:33] <jin> whats wget?
[09:33] <nanotube> here is my website on how i got it all set up and custom
[09:33] <lqtruong> i dont know
[09:33] <lqtruong> nos
[09:33] <SAAD3000> catch u later thanx
[09:34] <nanotube> pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles
[09:34] <lqtruong> i really dont know
[09:34] <nanotube> laterz, SAAD3000
[09:34] <lqtruong> uzysz
[09:34] <lqtruong> gkfjgifg
[09:34] <lqtruong> nhung
[09:34] <nanotube> jin, its a program to download files off the web
[09:34] <lqtruong> co
[09:34] <jin> ooo
[09:34] <XFreeMan> Help, i just installed ubuntu, the eth0 is not working
[09:35] <jin> what about "sudo dpkg -i"
[09:35] <w32> XFreeman is it active
[09:35] <pithe^afk> hello, you are gonna hate me... i'm a complete newbie. i just want to know if i should let ubuntu do the partitioning for installation or if i should partition in windows then install
[09:35] <Madpilot> jin: dpkg is how you install .deb files
[09:35] <w32> Xfreeman is it configured
[09:35] <nanotube> jin yea, its pretty neat. instead of firing up your browser and stuff to get things, can just say "wget blabla.com/file.mp3" and it will download it. there is also a nice gui frontend to wget called "gwget"
[09:35] <nanotube> jin, sudo dpkg -i is the command to install software packages
[09:35] <jin> ooo thanks
[09:36] <w32> Xfreeman is the ethernet cable terminated properly and plugged in?
[09:36] <XFreeMan> w32 yes it is
[09:36] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: that works in Dapper?
[09:36] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: sure
[09:36] <nanotube> jin, but in ubuntu, the best way to get packages is through the synaptic package manager. it downloads and installs things automatically.
[09:36] <defrysk> jin, make sure to install ubuntu debs only
[09:36] <jin> k
[09:36] <XFreeMan> when i booted the LiveCD, it was fine and OK
[09:36] <bur[n] er> what i'm not sure about working in dapper is xserver-xgl.. i'm hesitant to try it out
[09:36] <nanotube> XFreeMan, when you run "ifconfig" from commandline, is eth0 listed?
[09:36] <amphi> nanotube: nice page - you should submit it to linux-laptop.net
[09:36] <w32> ifconfig eth0 ?
[09:37] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: cool - more Dapper coolness to look forward to
[09:37] <defrysk> jin, read http://help.ubuntu.com/
[09:37] <nanotube> amphi, thanks :) whats linux-laptop.net?
[09:37] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, i think my messages got blocked
[09:37] <XFreeMan> yes and gives the ip i specified too put it doesn't ping
[09:37] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: soooooo much cool stuff in dapper :)
[09:37] <amphi> nanotube: point your browser to http://linux-laptop.net/ ...
[09:37] <w32> maybe your gateway or dns settings are wrong ?
[09:38] <jin> thanks
[09:38] <XFreeMan> i got ADSL router, the gw + dns are te router, they are configured
[09:38] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: /msg nickserv ident <passwd>
[09:38] <yuri_> hi, can someone tell me how to forward a port?
[09:38] <w32> no I mean on eth0 is it pointing to the right gateway and dns
[09:39] <w32> is it static or dynamic
[09:39] <amphi> yuri_: I think you will find docs on that at http://netfilter.org/
[09:39] <OmegaAlpha> ok
[09:39] <XFreeMan> static
[09:39] <OmegaAlpha> well i got no new memos
[09:39] <w32> change the ip to dynamic and try that
[09:39] <yuri_> thanks!
[09:39] <w32> if it gets and address and you can get "OUT"
[09:39] <a2xm> hi all.. I think I've set up the samba correctly... I try print from the client and it did send the job to the samba server.. but it didn't print anything.. any helps.. thanks
[09:39] <nanotube> amphi, ooo, its nice. :) i am submitting now. tx for the headsup.
[09:39] <defrysk> yuri_, in case you use a router : http://www.portforward.com/
[09:40] <w32> then you static config'd it wrong
[09:40] <pvh> bur[n] er: i'm just updating to dapper to try xgl
[09:40] <pvh> bur[n] er: and compiz
[09:40] <w32> or there is a conflict with another ip addr on the same subnet
[09:40] <rewt__> Anyone here good at writing scripts or knows how to write scripts at all?
[09:40] <pvh> bur[n] er: life without window tiling is hard after you get used to having it. it really replaces the task-switching bar very well
[09:40] <XFreeMan> no conflict, i'm trying DHCP
[09:41] <pvh> bur[n] er: human eyes are faster at recognizing colour/shape than reading text
[09:41] <w32> ie comp1=192.168.1.1 & comp2=192.168.1.1 would cause a problem
[09:41] <nanotube> rewt__, what kinda script do you wanna write?
[09:41] <amphi> nanotube: pleasure - it's better to have this stuff in one place than scattered all over teh intarweb
[09:41] <rewt__> a script where i push my radio button to turn on my wireless and it turns it on for me since it doesnt do it now
[09:41] <nanotube> amphi, yea, true. :) but its also nice to have my own site to do with as i please. ;)
[09:42] <amphi> nanotube: indeed - a link from linux-laptop.net is all
[09:42] <XFreeMan> i'm new to ubuntu, is it true that root is desables, i have to sudo everything
[09:42] <nanotube> amphi, yea, i saw. i already submitted. it has a LOT of info on there. that's cool. i wonder if we should link to it from the laptoptestingteam page on ubuntu wiki.
[09:43] <rewt__> my mate just got me an account using his imap stuff.....how do i ssh to him and change my pw?
[09:43] <w32> xfreeman yes
[09:43] <nanotube> XFreeMan, yes, that's true. you CAN enable root pretty easily, but that is discouraged
[09:43] <nanotube> XFreeMan, read this:
[09:43] <nanotube> !rootsudo
[09:43] <w32> sudo or enable root desktoplogind
[09:43] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:43] <rewt__> how do you ssh in ubuntu?
[09:43] <nanotube> !tell XFreeMan about rootsudo
[09:43] <w32> rewt_
[09:44] <rewt__> w32, yes?
[09:44] <nanotube> rewt__, just open up a terminal, and type "ssh servername -l yourremoteusername"
[09:44] <w32> apt-get install ssh openssh -server
[09:44] <rewt__> nanotube, do i need that ssh openssh -server?
[09:44] <w32> did you mean ssh in or out rewt_
[09:44] <nanotube> w32, ssh is installed by default. he does not need to install the ssh server
[09:44] <rewt__> oh ok
[09:45] <rewt__> So now about that script
[09:45] <nanotube> rewt__, open up a terminal, and type "whereis ssh". if stuff comes up, then ssh is already installed, and you dont need to install any packages
[09:45] <w32> oh it is I just do base installs
[09:45] <w32> never gui
[09:45] <w32> LEGACY HARDWARE
[09:45] <nanotube> w32, heh ic. gui is nice for desktop use, though. :)
[09:45] <nanotube> rewt__, so whats the script?
[09:46] <rewt__> IF I manually activate my integrated wireless card, my light on my button turns on like it should when the card is in use.
[09:46] <rewt__> If I push the button to turn off the card then push it again to turn it back on, it doesnt turn back on. I have to manually reactivate the card
[09:47] <rewt__> so I need a script that when I push that button, it turns on the card for me.
[09:47] <nanotube> rewt__, so what do you do to "manually activate the card" ?
[09:47] <rewt__> I go to sys>admin>networking    click on the card and hit activate
[09:48] <jin> well nighty night people
[09:48] <XFreeMan> it's not working
[09:48] <jin> and thankx again for the help
[09:49] <yuri_> hi, I need help forwarding a port to use with bittorent. It was suggested to me that i use netfilter but I have no idea how to use it. can someone give me a quick solution?
[09:49] <nanotube> rewt__, well, to start it from commandline, you would type "ifup eth1" (but replace eth1 with whatever name your wifi interface has)
[09:49] <w32> xfreeman your router or otherwise is issuing dhcp addrs right?
[09:49] <rewt__> \so
[09:50] <nanotube> rewt__, so you dont really even need much of a script to do it from commandline :)
[09:50] <rewt__> ifup wlan0
[09:50] <Madpilot> yuri_: that's probably going to depend on your router
[09:50] <XFreeMan> ofcourse
[09:50] <rewt__> I'd like to have the convenience of that radio button though :-P
[09:50] <nanotube> rewt__, if wlan0 is the name of your wifi, then yes. :) check what it is by running "iwconfig" from terminal
[09:50] <yuri_> i get no router probs in windows, only in linux
[09:50] <w32> i don't know then sorry
[09:50] <defrysk> yuri_, http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[09:50] <w32> I'm better w/ it in front of me
[09:50] <rewt__> it is wlan0
[09:50] <nanotube> rewt__, ok, then it is "ifup wlan0"
[09:50] <yuri_> been there... already... many times
[09:51] <rewt__> But what about convenience
[09:51] <rewt__> lol
[09:51] <defrysk> yuri_, thats as explicit as you can get it
[09:51] <rewt__> im a lazy geek
[09:51] <XFreeMan> i don't know what's wrong, as if it's seeing the network
[09:51] <nanotube> yuri_, in general, to forward a port, you just go to your router's config page, and set it up there.
[09:51] <nanotube> rewt__, so at which times would you like to bring up your wireless?
[09:51] <yuri_> like i said, the ports are forwarded and work in windows, but not in linux
[09:51] <nanotube> every time you boot up?
[09:52] <nanotube> yuri_, ah sorry, i missed that
[09:52] <w32> when you do and ifconfig eth0 do you actually see any IP address under the ineterface
[09:52] <XFreeMan> it work on windows, so i'll try it on GNU/Linux thought it shouldn't, i'll reboot
[09:52] <nanotube> yuri_, do you have your firewall turned off in linux?
[09:52] <yuri_> umm... 1 sec
[09:52] <Madpilot> yuri_: if you've got Firestarter running, make sure it's opened the BitTorrent ports
[09:52] <w32> or just the ipv6 addr
[09:53] <XFreeMan> btw, it's haging from time to time
[09:53] <yuri_> i cant see firestarteer in sys monitor...
[09:53] <nanotube> yuri_, from commandline, type "sudo iptables --list"
[09:53] <nanotube> yuri_, and see what comes up. if all the chains are are blank and accepting stuff, then your firewall is down. :)
[09:54] <XFreeMan> when i tried static, i saw the ip, but now dynamic only the ipv6
[09:54] <rewt__> nanotube, everytime i push that button
[09:54] <rewt__> lol
[09:54] <w32> ok then type ifconfig eth0 192.168. whatever and hit enter
[09:55] <yuri_> says it accepts it inbound.. so its off
[09:55] <w32> you know what i mean ?
[09:55] <nanotube> rewt__, hehe i see. well, i do not know where the script that is attached to your button is... but it must be there somewhere
[09:55] <rewt__> Canwe look for it??
[09:55] <rewt__> ^_^
[09:55] <XFreeMan> it geve, permission denied, do i sodu it, right?
[09:55] <nanotube> well, i am not at your computer, so you will have to do all the looking. :)
[09:56] <nanotube> rewt__,
[09:56] <rewt__> XFreeMan, yes
[09:56] <rewt__> nanotube,
[09:56] <nanotube> rewt__, but when you find it, just add "ifup wlan0" to it ;)
[09:56] <rewt__> nanotube, where should I start looking?
[09:56] <w32> xfreeman nano /etc/network/interfaces
[09:56] <nanotube> XFreeMan, its "sudo" not "sodu", just to make sure you know
[09:56] <rewt__> nanotube, and if I add that will it also add it in windows too?
[09:57] <nbound> !multimedia
[09:57] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[09:57] <nanotube> rewt__, try looking in /etc/acpi
[09:57] <amphi> nanotube: there is also tuxmobil.org, BTW
[09:57] <w32> i'm  about to pass out its 4am
[09:57] <nanotube> amphi, hmm, i will check it out...
[09:57] <yuri_> hey it worked.. looks like i did have my firewall up. hmm. im an idiot. thanks.
[09:57] <w32> need a cigarette
[09:57] <nanotube> w32,dude, its 4 am here too, and i be needing some sleep as well. :)
[09:57] <nanotube> yuri_, hehe well, glad you figured it out. :)
[09:58] <BlazedForever> hay can someone help me register?
[09:58] <XFreeMan> thantks w32, it's 11 am here, and i havn't slept yet
[09:58] <rewt__> nanotube, would it be ibm-wireless.sh?
[09:58] <w32> yep cya guys
[09:58] <nanotube> rewt__, that sounds plausible
[09:58] <rewt__> nanotube, asus-wireless.sh
[09:58] <nanotube> rewt__, hm, that sounds plausible too
[09:58] <nanotube> :)
[09:58] <nanotube> w32, cya
[09:59] <rewt__> nanotube, tosh-wirelss.sh
[09:59] <XFreeMan> w32 cya
[09:59] <Madpilot> BlazedForever: /msg nickserv help
[09:59] <w32> mhm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[09:59] <rewt__> nanotube, wireless.sh
[09:59] <rewt__> thats all i see plausable
[09:59] <nanotube> well, read the scripts and see what they say
[09:59] <nanotube> eg, tosh-wireless seems to be about bluetooth - so thats out
[10:00] <rewt__> nano
[10:00] <rewt__> i think i found something
[10:00] <rewt__> # /etc/acpi/events/asus-wireless
[10:00] <rewt__> # This is called when the user presses the wireless button and calls
[10:00] <rewt__> # /etc/acpi/wireless.sh for further processing.
[10:00] <rewt__> event=hotkey ATKD 0000005d
[10:00] <rewt__> action=/etc/acpi/asus-wireless.sh
[10:00] <Madpilot> !paste
[10:00] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:00] <rewt__> nano....pm?
[10:00] <shad0w1e> how do I change my hostname?
[10:00] <nanotube> rewt__, sorry, i am not registered, so i cannot pm...
[10:01] <nanotube> but hold on let me see there
[10:01] <BlazedForever> REGISTER
[10:02] <mod^> how do I let users change passwords with phpmyadmin?
[10:02] <nanotube> rewt__, see if you have the file /proc/acpi/asus/wled
[10:02] <nanotube> rewt__, if you do not, then that script does not do anything for you, because it works only on that device
[10:03] <XFreeMan> yo people, my eth0 is not working, i've tried everything
[10:03] <nanotube> BlazedForever, how to register?
[10:03] <nanotube> XFreeMan, firewall is off?
[10:03] <rewt__> nanotube, nope
[10:04] <rewt__> i have proc/acpi but no asus
[10:04] <XFreeMan> how can check the firewall
[10:04] <nitishp> How would I make an Ubuntu package that can be viewed in synaptic or some program like synaptic?
[10:04] <XFreeMan> iptables ?
[10:04] <nanotube> rewt__, then that's not it
[10:04] <rewt__> nano join me in /radioB
[10:05] <nanotube> rewt__, whats the brand of your laptop?
[10:05] <rewt__> Compaq Presario V2000
[10:05] <nanotube> nitishp, so you want to make a .deb package?
[10:05] <BlazedForever> cool i figured it out
[10:05] <rewt__> AMD Turion 64
[10:05] <nanotube> nitishp, from a tar.gz source package?
[10:06] <XFreeMan> nanotube, how do i check the Firewall
[10:06] <BlazedForever> can someone tell me if ubuntu comes with the opengl libraries pre-installed
[10:06] <nanotube> XFreeMan, run "sudo iptables --list" and see what it displays
[10:06] <XFreeMan> i got Compaq Evo N1020v
[10:06] <nitishp> nanotube: I have to make a Debian package?
[10:07] <nitishp> Alright, so I'll dpkg then correct?
[10:07] <nanotube> rewt__, well, i do not see anything about compaq wireless scripts. probably, you would have to search google to find your laptop make, and see how that works...
[10:07] <nanotube> nitishp, ubuntu uses the same package format as debian, yes.
[10:07] <nanotube> nitishp, and once you have a .deb, can install with dpkg -i
[10:08] <nitishp> Alright, sweet, thanks nanotube.
[10:08] <selinium> Hi all, my server chowns files as www-data:www-data  it is possible to and my user to the www-data pool?
[10:08] <rewt__> hmmm
[10:08] <XFreeMan> input/output/forward policy = accept  + no rule, i guess this is an empty config
[10:08] <nanotube> nitishp, the easiest way to make a .deb from a source is to use "checkinstall" package
[10:08] <ltibor65> Seveas, how can I make a boot floppy for Ubuntu?
[10:08] <nanotube> XFreeMan, yes, thats an empty config, so yoru firewall is down...
[10:08] <nanotube> XFreeMan, well, there goes my idea :)
[10:09] <rewt__> nanotube, will this work? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/018180.html
[10:10] <selinium> Hi all, my server chowns files as www-data:www-data  it is possible to ADD my user to the www-data pool?  (spelling mistake)
[10:10] <nanotube> selinium, to add users to the group www-data, open up your users and groups panel, (system>administration>users and groups) and you can edit groups and add users to them.
[10:10] <BlazedForever> can someone tell me if ubuntu comes with the opengl libraries pre-installed??
[10:11] <XFreeMan> i t seems i'll go back to slackware
[10:11] <selinium> nanotube, Cheers
[10:11] <nanotube> rewt__, or this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/019782.html
[10:11] <BlazedForever> im trying to config and it says im missing opengl "configure: WARNING: *** No OpenGL found."
[10:13] <nanotube> BlazedForever, try "glxinfo" from terminal
[10:14] <ltibor65> Hi guys! How can I make a boot floppy for Ubuntu? Can somebody help me?
[10:14] <zulfiqar_> ffis anyone using gperfection theme by lokheed?
[10:15] <nanotube> BlazedForever, got your pm. hmm... well i suppose that means that opengl is not on on your comp. it was installed by default on mine...
[10:16] <nanotube> ltibor65, not sure, but i think searching google for "ubuntu boot floppy" will yield some good results.
[10:16] <Mabus06> where does x chat log to by default when it's enabled
[10:16] <crimsun> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:17] <crimsun> err, sorry, misread
[10:17] <rewt__> nanotube, i tried that the ipw2200 thing said there was no /module
[10:18] <nanotube> BlazedForever, sorry, i do not. i looked around in synaptic but could not find it. i think it comes with x.org somewhere. it may already be on your comp, just not enabled, because your gfx card is somehow claiming it doesnt support it?... but i am not great with graphics cards.
[10:19] <nanotube> rewt__, hmm... well i guess you have reached the end of my knowledge. best i could suggest is to put an executable script on your desktop, with "ifup wlan0" in it, so that you can just double click and run it whenever you need to
[10:19] <rewt__> I don't know how to write one?
[10:19] <nanotube> Mabus06, probably ~/.xchat2/ somewhere?
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt: create a simple text file, with two lines in it
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, line 1 is "#!/bin/bash"
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, line 2 is "ifup wlan0"
[10:20] <rewt__> what do I create it in? openoffice?
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, then change permissions to executable for you
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, then you can run it
[10:21] <nanotube> rewt__, no, just use gedit
[10:21] <heliotrope> what is a good ftp for ubuntu?
[10:21] <nanotube> rewt__, or even pico
[10:21] <nanotube> heliotrope, "gftp" is real good
[10:21] <heliotrope> nanotube, thanks
[10:21] <heliotrope> nanotube, can i install it with symantec?
[10:21] <nanotube> BlazedForever, hmm, generally those -dev packages are just for development (ie, making your own software)... so i doubt it.
[10:22] <heliotrope> nanotube, synaptic*
[10:22] <nanotube> heliotrope, you mean synaptic?
[10:22] <heliotrope> nanotube, yeah lol
[10:22] <nanotube> heliotrope, hehe yes, you can. just search for gftp, it will be there
[10:22] <rewt__> nano...how do I make it executable for me?
[10:22] <nanotube> BlazedForever, well, doesnt hurt to give it a shot, right? :)
[10:23] <rewt__> mark execute?
[10:23] <nanotube> rewt__, right click file, select properties, go to permissions, and check the "execute" checkbox for owner
[10:23] <rewt__> under properties
[10:23] <rewt__> k
[10:23] <rewt__> Got it :)
[10:23] <nanotube> rewt__, see, you figured it out without me :)
[10:23] <rewt__> hehe
[10:23] <rewt__> now to try it
[10:23] <rewt__> brb
[10:24] <Scarborough> my firefox window closes from time to time by itself
[10:24] <Scarborough> why is that?
[10:24] <nanotube> BlazedForever, sorry... i am out of my depth here. do not know what to suggest.
[10:24] <zulfiqar_> is anyone using gperfection2 theme by lokheed?
[10:24] <nanotube> Scarborough, hmm, maybe its an extension or plugin problem?
[10:25] <nanotube> what extensions/plugins do you have?
[10:25] <nanotube> Scarborough, and what version of firefox?
[10:25] <heliotrope> how come i can compile and build a single file with g++ with no problem but when i do a project it wont work?
[10:25] <Scarborough> nanotube, its the latest one, but I dont have any plugins or extensions, exept fasterfox
[10:25] <nanotube> heliotrope, whats the error message?
[10:25] <nanotube> Scarborough, hmm, well, it may be fasterfox. cuz ive never heard of that extension, and do not have it. :)
[10:26] <heliotrope> nanotube, it just says build unsucessful
[10:26] <nanotube> Scarborough, try disabling fasterfox, and see if the random crashes go away, thats all i can suggest
[10:26] <BlazedForever> Can someone please help me with getting openGl working
[10:26] <nanotube> Scarborough, but its just a guess :)
[10:26] <nanotube> BlazedForever, good luck dude.
[10:26] <Scarborough> nanotube, its supposed to speed up ff, but i doubt that it works
[10:27] <nanotube> Scarborough, hehe yea, try disabling, see what happens.
[10:27] <nanotube> heliotrope, hm, sorry dont know...
[10:27] <Scarborough> nanotube, done, now lets see what happens
[10:27] <nanotube> Scarborough, yep... how frequently does it usually restart?
[10:27] <heliotrope> nanotube, its ok ill look through the help
[10:27] <nanotube> heliotrope, have fun. ;)
[10:28] <heliotrope> nanotube, lol, thanks
[10:28] <Scarborough> nanotube, like two-three times an hour
[10:30] <BlazedForever> does anyone here have any idea on how to get opengl to work?
[10:30] <nanotube> Scarborough, then you dont have long to wait :)
[10:30] <ideafix> i hate ubuntu
[10:30] <heliotrope> ubuntu rocks
[10:30] <nanotube> ideafix, then maybe you are in the wrong forum :)
[10:31] <Scarborough> not really :P
[10:31] <nanotube> ideafix, isnt there an #ubuntusucks channel somewhere? :)
[10:31] <heliotrope> my cat loves ubuntu so much he sleeps on only my computers with it installed
[10:31] <nanotube> heliotrope, lol
[10:31] <Scarborough> nanotube, what do you think about antivirus/spywere in ubuntu, do I need it?
[10:31] <ideafix> should i got to windows and say i hate ubuntu ?
[10:31] <neosc> Lo guys... finally got ubuntu to connect to the internet.. now how do i setup sound.. I dont hear a thing
[10:31] <nanotube> Scarborough, well, ive given that some research and thought myself... and come to the conclusion that it is not needed.
[10:32] <nanotube> Scarborough, antivir, for sure, because there are no viruses for linux in the wild, so it would just be sitting there eating resources and not doing anything
[10:32] <ideafix> nanotube: its not needed because ubuntu is in it self spyware
[10:32] <nanotube> Scarborough, spyware might not be completely useless, cuz them spyware people can come up with some pretty mean things... but if you just install stuff from repos or other reputable sources, dont really need it either.
[10:33] <nanotube> ideafix, how so? has it been sending info about you to some outside server?
[10:33] <ideafix> yes
[10:33] <neosc> Guys.. how do i setup sound.? i have simple 2 piece speakers
[10:33] <nanotube> ideafix, which server?
[10:33] <nomad111> wats the current linux kernel version
[10:33] <nanotube> nomad111, which cpu do youhave?
[10:33] <ideafix> i dont know im not an hacker
[10:33] <nomad111> nanotube, im using the ubuntu amd64 version
[10:34] <nanotube> ideafix, then how do you know it has been sending it in the first place??
[10:34] <nomad111> athlon 64 3800+
[10:34] <nanotube> well, my kernel is 2.6.12-10-686
[10:34] <nomad111> k
[10:34] <neosc> cud u help me? how do i setup sound.? i have simple 2 piece speakers
[10:34] <nanotube> nomad111, there is probably the equivalent for amd there too
[10:34] <dooglus> how can I blank my swap partition?
[10:34] <nomad111> one more thing wats the command to update stuff from the terminal
[10:35] <ideafix> but people because people come in irc using my passwords as nick names
[10:35] <amphi> nomad111: apt-get update/upgrade
[10:35] <nomad111> k cool thx
[10:35] <foxpaul> anyone know how to check which ports are being uised on my local machine, by which process?
[10:35] <amphi> !pal ideafix
[10:35] <ubotu> amphi: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:35] <amphi> bah
[10:35] <ideafix> whats that !
[10:35] <ideafix> ?
[10:35] <dooglus> nomad111: I use this alias in my .bashrc - then all I need to type is 'update' in a shell
[10:35] <dooglus> nomad111: alias update='sudo apt-file update && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:36] <amphi> ideafix: an instruction to the bot, but it doesn't understand that one
[10:36] <nomad111> lol too much technical language lol
[10:36] <nomad111> i just need to update and its asking are you root?
[10:36] <nomad111> do i hac to do sudo i
[10:36] <eneska18> hi
[10:36] <ideafix> is that german ?
[10:36] <amphi> nomad111: do sudo apt-get update to update the package database
[10:36] <dooglus> nomad111: run "gedit ~/.bashrc", then add in that line I wrote, starting at 'alias', save the file, start a new terminal and run 'update'
[10:36] <eneska18> jest tu jakis polak ????
[10:36] <nanotube> nomad111, its easiest to just run synaptic
[10:37] <nanotube> nomad111, synaptic is a gui based package manager
[10:37] <amphi> !tell eneska18 about pl
[10:37] <nomad111> k
[10:37] <dooglus> how can I blank my swap partition?
[10:37] <nanotube> dooglus, why do you need to do that?
[10:37] <eneska18> co pl
[10:37] <nomad111> dooglus, where do i add the line u told me to add
[10:37] <dooglus> nanotube: it's full of sensitive data that I would like to clean out when I shut down
[10:37] <BlazedForever> configure: WARNING: *** No OpenGL found.
[10:37] <BlazedForever>                 projectm plugin will not be built.
[10:37] <BlazedForever>       what the heck now :(
[10:37] <heliotrope> this is now officially my 2nd day with Ubuntu
[10:37] <dooglus> nomad111: right at the end is fine
[10:37] <nomad111> dooglus, thx
[10:38] <nanotube> heliotrope, nice. :) its just about the start of my 2nd month
[10:38] <BlazedForever> doesent ubuntu come with OpenGL?
[10:38] <eneska18> jest moze ktos z polski ???????
[10:38] <heliotrope> nanotube, haha awesome, i've been in shock and awe over the multiple workspaces lol
[10:38] <monzie> can someone please help me with subversion..
[10:38] <monzie> i am required to check out a module
[10:38] <monzie> i have the url , but dont know how to do it
[10:38] <heliotrope> nanotube, im running different things just to put in the other spaces
[10:39] <monzie> please help somebody
[10:39] <nomad111> dooglus, sudo: apt-file: command not found
[10:39] <nanotube> dooglus, you would probably want to boot from a cd, and then use the "shred" command
[10:39] <nanotube> (man shred for more details)
[10:39] <monzie> can someone please tell me how to retrieve a module from subversion
[10:39] <ompaul> dooglus, get more ram emm you need to write an ap that turns swap off and and then does the formatting thing would most likely be the most effective, then incorporate it in the shutdown squence
[10:39] <monzie> svn://launchpad:lasquecomlimao@laa2.unifacs.br/repositorio/preview/distro/build/sources/ubuntuexpress-preview
[10:40] <dooglus> nomad111: if you don't use apt-file, you can remove the first part
[10:40] <nanotube> monzie, probably if you install the subversion package from the repositories, you can then check out stuff
[10:40] <dooglus> nomad111: or just install apt-file
[10:40] <nanotube> dooglus, oo, whats apt-file?
[10:40] <nomad111> dooglus, apt-get install apt-file right?
[10:40] <monzie> i have installed subversion nanotube , how do i get stuff?
[10:40] <dooglus> nanotube: it's a way of finding which package provides a given file
[10:40] <amphi> dooglus: you want to zero out your swap partition?
[10:40] <dooglus> nanotube: right.
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: I do.  on shutdown.
[10:41] <monzie> man svn does not help
[10:41] <amphi> dooglus: _every_ shutdown ?
[10:41] <nanotube> monzie, i am not sure about subversion, i just use cvs... but svn is supposedly pretty similar to cvs. if you go to google and search for 'subversion tutorial' probably you can find good stuff
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: otherwise my passphrase and such like is stored in it while the PC is off.
[10:41] <xerophyte> does anybody know any free cisco iso simulation??
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: sure.
[10:41] <amphi> dooglus: passphrase from what? gpg?
[10:41] <ompaul> dooglus, apt-cache search X or show X
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: what's the point of using encrypted filesystems if the passphrase is saved in clear text in the swap partition?
[10:42] <dooglus> amphi: all passphrases, passwords, etc.
[10:42] <dooglus> amphi: anything that gets into RAM can potentially end up in the swap partition in clear text.
[10:42] <nanotube> dooglus, arey ou sure those things are saved in the swap? afaik, gpg and pals usually take pains toavoid that
[10:42] <amphi> dooglus: no, not anything
[10:42] <dooglus> ompaul: what are you telling me?
[10:42] <monzie> is there any way to install the Ubuntu Live CD to hard disk?
[10:43] <amphi> dooglus: memory can be allocated that's flagged not to be paged out
[10:43] <ompaul> dooglus, apt-cache search X or show X - to find where a package came from
[10:43] <amphi> dooglus: a better solution would be encrypted swap IMHO
[10:43] <nanotube> monzie, hmm, not sure... i think its best to just get the ubuntu install cd for installation, instead.
[10:43] <monzie> is there any way to install the Ubuntu Live CD to hard disk?
[10:43] <dooglus> nanotube: ok, gpg may well make sure it doesn't swap out my pass phrase.  but is open office going to make sure it doesn't swap out the document it's editing, which was encrypted with gpg?
[10:43] <dooglus> amphi: encrypted swap sounds slow...
[10:43] <ompaul> monzie, don't do that with 5.10, you will be able to with 6.04 when it is released (afik)
[10:43] <nanotube> dooglus, probably not. :)
[10:44] <heliotrope> whats the install command again?
[10:44] <amphi> dooglus: dd-ing /dev/zero over yr swap partition is going to make shutdown very time consuming
[10:44] <nomad111> U kno wat would really help the world, if someone could tell us how to auto-enable num-lock when ubuntu to starts
[10:44] <heliotrope> apt-get install?
[10:44] <amphi> dooglus: I doubt it makes that much odds
[10:44] <dooglus> ompaul: apt-file is for findinf out which package provides a given file.  even for packages you didn't install yet.  apt-cache can't do that.
[10:44] <Ng> nomad111: there's a package called numlockx that should do that
[10:44] <monzie> nanotube, https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntuliveinstaller-shellhack/+ticket/21
[10:44] <nomad111> thank you
[10:44] <monzie> and https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntuliveinstaller-shellhack/+series/1.2
[10:45] <amphi> dooglus: of course there's a performance hit, as for encrypted filesystems, but swap is so much slower than ram I doubt you'd notice
[10:45] <dooglus> amphi: I don't mind how long shutdown takes - 'cos I'll be out of the house at the time.  I tend to sit at the computer when I'm working, then initiate shutdown and leave.
[10:45] <nomad111> Ng, E: Couldn't find package numlockx
[10:45] <amphi> dooglus: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever
[10:45] <Snorkel> I have a dual boot (XP Ubuntu) machine. Is it possible to erase the XP partition and later add to the existing Ubuntu / partition.
[10:45] <dooglus> amphi: how would I go about encrypting swap on the fly then, so I can check out if it's slow?
[10:46] <amphi> dooglus: but if you do that, you'll need to mkswap each time you boot
[10:46] <rage__> Hey guys, anyone having trouble with the madwifi kernel modules surplied in the restricted modules package?
[10:46] <amphi> dooglus: google knows about encrypted swap
[10:46] <monzie> ok ompaul , and 6.04 releases in March?
[10:46] <nanotube> dooglus, see this thread http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0108.0/index.html#1394
[10:46] <nanotube> dooglus, might find it helpful
[10:46] <Ng> nomad111: ah, you'll need to enable the universe repository
[10:46] <Ng> !repositories
[10:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:46] <monzie> !livecd
[10:47] <nomad111> ye i just did thx
[10:47] <Ng> monzie: april
[10:47] <amphi> dooglus: I suppose you could dd from an offset into the swap device, so as not to destroy the swap signature or whatever it is that mkswap puts in there
[10:47] <monzie> hmm okay..
[10:47] <ompaul> monzie, 04 april
[10:47] <monzie> okay ompaul , is that like a confirmed date?
[10:48] <nomad111> i need to change the permission on my mounted ntfs folder how do i do that
[10:48] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:48] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <nomad111> coz i cant access it
[10:48] <ompaul> !dapper drake
[10:48] <ubotu> well, dapper drake is the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper
[10:48] <monzie> Ng, ompaul , i am working on an E17 based distro , tentatively to be called ENubuntu, focussing on pure eye candy
[10:49] <ompaul> monzie, 20th april
[10:49] <monzie> now there's two ways to do it 1) 2 cd
[10:49] <monzie> one install and one live
[10:49] <hangfire> will ubuntu install ATI drivers or only nVidea drivers?
[10:49] <Seveas> monzie, Ebuntu?  
[10:49] <nanotube> Snorkel, yes it is possible. try using "gparted" to do that (install the package from synaptic)
[10:49] <nanotube> nomad111, its dangerous to play with ntfs filesystem from linux
[10:49] <monzie> and the other one is to have a combined live/install cd aka Knoppix
[10:49] <rowanjl> Hello, can anyone direct me to some info on getting my Soundblaster Live working with 5.1 sound?
[10:49] <monzie> yup, Seveas
[10:49] <nomad111> nanotube, i just want to access it
[10:49] <monzie> is that a project too Seveas , Ebuntu?
[10:50] <hangfire> anyone know if its easy to install ATI drivers on ubuntu?
[10:50] <Seveas> monzie, no, just a name for ENubuntu I would like more ;)
[10:50] <dooglus> amphi: thanks
[10:50] <monzie> i thought ENubuntu as it rhymed with Ubuntu, Kubuntu Edubuntu and Xubuntu...
[10:50] <dooglus> nomad111: are you OK with that alias now?
[10:51] <Snorkel> Ok thanx. I shall try so i get rid of windows and have a lot of disk space free
[10:51] <bart___> can anyone advice me on installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu ?
[10:51] <nomad111> dooglus, yes i removed apt-file from it
[10:51] <nomad111> dooglus, its fine
[10:51] <dooglus> nomad111: good
[10:51] <nomad111> dooglus, how do i ask ubotu questions
[10:52] <monzie> okay Seveas , i am about to post the name to the ubuntu-users and ubuntu-devel lists!
[10:53] <monzie> just type a "!" followed by a key word dooglus
[10:53] <nomad111> !mp3
[10:53] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <bart___> !nvidia
[10:53] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:53] <heliotrope> does ubuntu have a built in antivirus
[10:54] <rowanjl> !sblive
[10:54] <ubotu> rowanjl: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:54] <hangfire> you dont need antivirus with Linux
[10:54] <rage__> anyone familia with festival here?
[10:54] <heliotrope> oh sweet
[10:54] <Angel_Dex> hello
[10:54] <heliotrope>  = noob
[10:54] <heliotrope> how come you dont?
[10:55] <Hysty> heliotrope, pretty sure there aint viruses for linux
[10:55] <hangfire> go to the nastiest porn sites on Linux and you wont pick up one piece of spyware
[10:55] <bart___> there are virusses for linux, but very few
[10:55] <heliotrope> are they just harder to make?
[10:55] <Angel_Dex> why is there few tho>?
[10:55] <Hysty> there you go
[10:55] <hangfire> because all the viruses are written for windows
[10:55] <Hysty> bart___, wasnt sure on that one
[10:55] <Sp4rKy> can i start my computer over qemu ?
[10:55] <bart___> heliotrope: no because most virus makers focus on the masses
[10:56] <Hysty> and the open and vunerable windows
[10:56] <bart___> heliotrope, as soon as ubuntu becomes main stream that most likely will change
[10:56] <Angel_Dex> bart___ sad to think aboutno?
[10:56] <Ribs> *if* Ubuntu becomes mainstream
[10:56] <heliotrope> bart___, am i safe from what viruses there are for linux atm?
[10:56] <amphi> Sp4rKy: what do you mean?
[10:57] <nomad111> !ntfs
[10:57] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:57] <bart___> heliotrope, as far as I know you are
[10:57] <nomad111> !permissions
[10:57] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[10:57] <heliotrope> bart___, ok thanks
[10:57] <Angel_Dex> why cant i find a good icon for Xwine
[10:57] <Angel_Dex> @.@
[10:57] <hangfire> does Linux have a defragment feature like windows?'
[10:57] <Angel_Dex> no need
[10:57] <nacho_> ubunti espaol
[10:57] <nacho_> espaol ??
[10:57] <rowanjl> does linux have a crap filesystem like windows?
[10:57] <rowanjl> ...
[10:57] <BlazedForever> Hey can someone reccomend a good hard drive repair and/or diagnostic tool , one that will fix bad sectors,corrupted partitions etc.
[10:58] <Ng> hangfire: no, the filesystem takes steps to minimise the effects of fragmentation
[10:58] <Seveas> !es
[10:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:58] <Ribs> rowanjl: define "crap filesystem"
[10:58] <Hysty> hangfire, linux doesnt fragment
[10:58] <hangfire> no, Linux doesnt even have a registry like windows
[10:58] <bart___> hangfire, defrag is not needed anymore on nfts as such, its an old thing from the old windows days far gone
[10:58] <rowanjl> Ribs, Fat.
[10:58] <Ng> Hysty: yes it does, but not as much
[10:58] <manty> So is a firewall really necessary on linux?
[10:58] <Seveas> hangfire, well actually it has 
[10:58] <Ribs> rowanjl: It can read/write fat32 partitions, but doesn't use them nativley
[10:58] <rowanjl> Ribs, thats not a real question btw
[10:58] <Seveas> hangfire, /etc could count as a registry and gconf definitely is one
[10:58] <Ribs> erm, okay
[10:58] <Hysty> Ng, well yes but compared to the old windows I would reckon it was neglible
[10:58] <hangfire> bart, didnt know that, I thought defragement was still important on winXP
[10:59] <rage__> hangfire, There might be less of a virus threat with linux. But its pretty important to keep everything upto date
[10:59] <heliotrope> hangfire, defrag is important on winxp
[10:59] <rowanjl> Ribs, it was in relation to hangfires question about defragmenting
[10:59] <Angel_Dex> yeah it is
[10:59] <rowanjl> Can anyone help me with my soundcard?
[10:59] <hangfire> well /etc is like where they store .dlls
[10:59] <bart___> hangfire, you can defrag on XP, but MS advocates NTFS does not need it to stay well performing, sure it cleans things up but old systems needed defrag to keep performing since its non journaled
[10:59] <hangfire> then why do you say defrag is not important on ntfs?
[11:00] <Angel_Dex> bart___ Actually Not defraging a system is a VERY bad idea even on XP
[11:00] <bart___> Angel_Dex, not really :)
[11:00] <heliotrope> what time is it for all of you, its like 4am here haha
[11:00] <hangfire> so then does Linux have any kind of defrag feature?
[11:00] <Hysty> 9pm here
[11:01] <Ribs> hangfire: no, it doesn't need one
[11:01] <Angel_Dex> i ran windows enough to know if you dont defrag a computer when it need be you can get unstability
[11:01] <hangfire> 4am here to
[11:01] <Ng> hangfire: there are tools that can do it, but you generally don't need it
[11:01] <G0SUB> hangfire: it doesn't need one
[11:01] <Angel_Dex> and slugishness
[11:01] <Hysty> fschk
[11:01] <G0SUB> fsck
[11:01] <hangfire> ok, thx, thats good to know
[11:01] <Ribs> I thought fsck just checked the filesystem?
[11:01] <amphi> Seveas: well, dunno about /etc - one of the worst things about the windows registry is that it's opaque binary data mostly
[11:01] <Ribs> didn't think it defragged it
[11:01] <bart___> Ribs, correct
[11:01] <Ng> Ribs: correct
[11:01] <Hysty> no it doesnt
[11:01] <Ng> "defrag" defrags ext filesystems
[11:02] <Hysty> its about all you need to do really tho
[11:02] <hatake_kakashi> worst thing about windows? non-RASIS/POSIX compliant
[11:02] <bart___> agreed on POSIX :)
[11:02] <Angel_Dex> worst thing about windows um *cough* is that its windows
[11:02] <ccooke> Ribs: fsck will report on fragmentation.
[11:02] <rage__> Cygwin ;)
[11:02] <andyjstormont> How do I stop getting permison denied?
[11:02] <rage__> linux-kernel.exe
[11:02] <rage__> sudo
[11:03] <hangfire> enter root access
[11:03] <heliotrope> the worst thing about windows is they make you pay for that crap
[11:03] <rage__> SuperUser
[11:03] <Hysty> heliotrope, indeed
[11:03] <BlazedForever> Hey can someone reccomend a good hard drive repair and/or diagnostic tool , one that will fix bad sectors,corrupted partitions etc.
[11:03] <monzie> Ebuntu should be online in 24 hrs!
[11:03] <andyjstormont> I still get it as su.  I have been having this problem ever since I added an acount for my brother.
[11:03] <Hysty> heliotrope, i want a refund on my win95 floppy disk installation set
[11:03] <monzie> e2fsck BlazedForever
[11:04] <monzie> and parted
[11:04] <ctd> ebuntu?
[11:04] <OmegaAlpha> hey
[11:04] <OmegaAlpha> got a big prob
[11:04] <amphi> BlazedForever: if you see bad sectors on a modern hd, it's dying
[11:04] <heliotrope> hysty, just set it on fire on bill gates door step
[11:04] <rewt_> finally
[11:04] <rewt_> lol
[11:04] <rewt_> well that didnt work
[11:04] <rewt_> :-P
[11:04] <Hysty> heliotrope, heh
[11:05] <manty> So is a firewall really necessary on linux?
[11:05] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, got a problem
[11:05] <Angel_Dex> manty yeah? a firewalls needed nomatter what OS
[11:05] <OmegaAlpha> cant get on linux...
[11:05] <Ng> manty: if you have any network servers listening, yes, otherwise no
[11:05] <heliotrope> how do i interact with my windows network with ubuntu?
[11:05] <manty> ok thanks
[11:05] <Sp4rKy> how could i start my pc over qemu ?
[11:05] <Hysty> manty, i would say yes
[11:05] <bart___> manty, yes but not as urgently as on windows I think
[11:05] <Angel_Dex> who would run without a firewall @.@
[11:06] <manty> so how do i set firestarter to load at bot automatically?
[11:06] <manty> boot
[11:06] <bimberi> BlazedForever: HDD manufacturers usually distribute one of their own (eg. Seagate Seatools) - check your HDD manufacturers website
[11:06] <rewt_> nano is gone?
[11:07] <heliotrope> I have a windows wireless network and was wondering if i could browse shared files on my windows computer with ubuntu?
[11:07] <Angel_Dex> How do i persue a friend into using Ubuntu? hes leaning towards debian unstable/fedora
[11:07] <bart___> rewt_, nano works fine here for me
[11:07] <rage__> mant, sudo apt-get install rcconf && man rcconf
[11:07] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Get him/her the free CDs.
[11:07] <rewt_> if im writing a command to start my card how would i write a command to conect to a certain essid?
[11:07] <manty> rage__: was that for me?
[11:07] <Angel_Dex> nitishp he downloaded it all
[11:08] <rewt_> im writing a script to start my wireless card
[11:08] <rage__> rcconf - Debian Runlevel configuration tool
[11:08] <rewt_> #!/bin/bash
[11:08] <rewt_> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:08] <rewt_> that's the script so far
[11:08] <liable> rewt_: thats what interfaces file is for..
[11:08] <Angel_Dex> nitishp if he can make it less restricted and noob friendly i think hed use it
[11:08] <rewt_> liable....i cant figure it out on here
[11:08] <rewt_> see im using my integrated wirelss
[11:08] <Hysty> Angel_Dex, tell them to check out the Live CD first
[11:08] <rewt_> and my wireless button doesnt work right
[11:08] <rewt_> well not in linux that is
[11:09] <heliotrope> i had to go through a ton of stuff to get wireless working :
[11:09] <Angel_Dex> Hysty did
[11:09] <rage__> iwconfig channel 4 essid blah frag 512 mode foo
[11:09] <heliotrope> i dont even know how i did it anymore
[11:09] <rewt_> if I manually turn on the card and push the buttn to turn it off then push it again to turn it back on, it wont come on by button
[11:09] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to edit xorg.conf from root terminal?
[11:09] <Angel_Dex> Hysty Hes trying to learn linux and wants a good stable OS thats not made for noobs
[11:09] <liable> rewt_: /etc/network/interfaces, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[11:09] <glick> excuse me how do you rotate a figure in dia?
[11:09] <rage__> The version of madwifi ubuntu came with doesnt seem to like my wifi card:(
[11:09] <bart___> !chm
[11:09] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bart___
[11:10] <rage__> I might have to remove the restricted modules and compile it up from scratch
[11:10] <heliotrope> anyone know how i can browse my windows computer on my network with ubuntu?
[11:10] <Hysty> Angel_Dex, thats not made for noobs?
[11:10] <Hysty> heliotrope, samba
[11:11] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: If he wants total control over every little thing, go for Gentoo.
[11:11] <heliotrope> hysty, do i just type sudo apt-get install samba?
[11:11] <Angel_Dex> Hysty yep i told him Ubuntus just really restricted cuz theeres no root when he wants to run as root
[11:11] <rage__> just a guess, places/connect to server
[11:11] <Snorkel> smbclient -L
[11:11] <rage__> ;)
[11:11] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: What the heck? How said that?
[11:11] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: You lied to him then.
[11:11] <rage__> Do you have gnome installed?
[11:11] <Hysty> Angel_Dex, create a root account
[11:11] <rewt_> liable, how would i make my wireless button work?
[11:11] <monzie> thats "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" OmegaAlpha
[11:12] <Angel_Dex> I was told theres no root TT_TT
[11:12] <monzie> but that's not recommended if you dont know how to edit it
[11:12] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Then you were lied to.
[11:12] <Angel_Dex> bastards
[11:12] <liable> rewt_: no idea, but try from cli first, generally easier to see where shit fails..
[11:12] <Angel_Dex> Ho Hum i should tell him that then
[11:12] <nitishp> You do that.
[11:12] <rewt_> cli/?
[11:12] <bart___> anyone know if there is a chm reader available on ubuntu ?
[11:12] <tony__> Hi guys...
[11:12] <nitishp> rewt_: Command Line Interface.
[11:12] <rage__> Command Line Interface
[11:13] <rage__> :o
[11:13] <monzie> yum there is bart___ ,
[11:13] <liable> rewt_: terminal, youknow, text commands..
[11:13] <OmegaAlpha> monzie, ok..what about if you edited it already.. made a mistake and cant get on linux.. butonly a terminal when you boot?
[11:13] <Ng> bart___: xchm
[11:13] <heliotrope> how do i use samba
[11:13] <rewt_> i know
[11:13] <rewt_> where would i check for errors im new to this stuff
[11:13] <bart___> Ng: do I need to apt-get it or is it in Additional Applications ?
[11:13] <monzie> you have a backup OmegaAlpha of your old xorg.conf?
[11:13] <Ng> bart___: probably apt-get, or synaptic of course :)
[11:13] <nitishp> heliotrope: You read the manuals and make your configuration files that best suit your needs.
[11:13] <rage__> I think linux seems to mange cpu throttling on my laptop better than windows. My battery lasts longer :D
[11:13] <monzie> if not do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:14] <heliotrope> nitishp, i dont even know where to open it at
[11:14] <heliotrope> nitishp, i think i installed it :\
[11:14] <amphi> is nano installed by default?
[11:14] <nitishp> heliotrope: Well, verify it first.
[11:14] <bart___> Ng: new to ubuntu.. would almost do emerge :)
[11:14] <Angel_Dex> why no auto mount for floppys?
[11:14] <Ng> amphi: yes
[11:14] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Dude, who is telling you all these fallacies?
[11:14] <Hysty> rage__, damn right it does, I cant get Linux to overheat my cpu, windows does before it even gets to login
[11:14] <heliotrope> nitishp, how do i do that, in complete and utter noob talk, (2nd day with linux)
[11:14] <rage__> I found a ncurses based smb client awhile back.
[11:14] <Angel_Dex> nitishp >.> idk?
[11:15] <rage__> Hysty, P4?
[11:15] <nitishp> heliotrope: http://www.linux.ie/articles/tutorials/samba.php -> That's a quick little primer.
[11:15] <heliotrope> nitishp, thankyou
[11:15] <Hysty> rage__, Athlon XP 2000+
[11:15] <nitishp> heliotrope: http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/ -> There's the beast.
[11:15] <Hysty> rage__, plus its 35 degree plus weather here
[11:15] <amphi> Ng: thanks
[11:16] <quad__> My soundcard isnt making any sound, how do I check the drivers/settings?
[11:16] <rewt_> if a mod needs sudo and u write a script for it, where do you put he pw for sudo in the script
[11:16] <rewt_> ?
[11:16] <bart___> Ng, not seeing xchm in Synaptec ?
[11:16] <rowanjl> does anyone know how to get 5.1 surround sound working on a soundblaster live?
[11:16] <nitishp> rewt_: You don't.
[11:17] <rewt_> what do u do?
[11:17] <nitishp> rewt_: If you need to run something with sudo do it like login_prompt $ sudo <script>
[11:17] <Snorkel> Heliotrope als this link will help you http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07.html#sect-samba-server
[11:17] <Angel_Dex> Ok heres a que i really got no clue about I really love using hte hosts file Buton Windows the bigger the hosts file the worse off is there anything like that in ubuntu>? i wanna make me host file major big but im scared of repocutions
[11:17] <heliotrope> snorkel, thanks
[11:17] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: /etc/hosts
[11:18] <rewt_> so like this
[11:18] <Ng> bart___: you probably need to enable the universe reponsitories then
[11:18] <rewt_> #!/bin/bash
[11:18] <rewt_> login_prompt $ sudo
[11:18] <rewt_> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:18] <rewt_> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:18] <Ng> -n
[11:18] <nitishp> >_<
[11:18] <nitishp> rewt_: I mean at the command line.. you'd sudo <script>
[11:18] <Angel_Dex> nitishp i know of this im asking is there any problems that may occur if i make it say 51k lines long a few MB big?
[11:18] <liable> rewt_: ffs, /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <bart___> Ng, thanks, will keep looking :)
[11:18] <rewt_> But im not using command line
[11:18] <OmegaAlpha> monzie, no back up
[11:18] <nitishp> How are you running the script?
[11:18] <rewt_> liable, wy do you keep posting that
[11:18] <liable> its a file!
[11:18] <rewt_> ?
[11:18] <rewt_> i made a text file and made it executable
[11:19] <OmegaAlpha> going to try to edit it with nano now to change the simple edit i made back to normal
[11:19] <rewt_> so when I double click n it it runs
[11:19] <liable> rewt_: because it is *the* file that configures interfaces?
[11:19] <nitishp> rewt_: Right... so then sudo <script_you_made_executable>
[11:19] <Ng> rewt_: I think it's trying to tell you that you can do all of your network stuff in that file
[11:19] <rewt_> It's not hwat I need though >.<
[11:19] <liable> rewt_: instead of making half baked scripts?
[11:19] <rewt_> My wireless button doesnt work right in linux.
[11:20] <rewt_> I can turn on my wireless card manually and the button ligths up.
[11:20] <rewt_> If I push the button to trn it off, the light goes off
[11:20] <rewt_> If I push the button again, nothing happens
[11:20] <Sp4rKy> nobody could help me with qemu ?
[11:20] <rewt_> So Im writng a script to make it work.
[11:20] <bart___> Ng, its installing thanks :)
[11:20] <rage__> Do you want it to execute a script when the button is pushed?
[11:20] <nitishp> rewt_: If you want to make this script, then you could either run this as root or have ifup wlan0 && modprobe ndiswrapper which you would name "script" and then at the command line -> sudo script
[11:20] <rewt_> That way I just double click a link to do all the work
[11:21] <Snorkel> Is the sticky bit perhaps a solution?
[11:21] <Ng> Snorkel: solution to what?
[11:21] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Why do you have 51K lines in /etc/hosts?
[11:21] <rewt_> rage__, Id like it to
[11:21] <Snorkel> For running a script as root
[11:21] <rewt_> but I cant figure out how to
[11:21] <Ng> Snorkel: nope
[11:21] <Ng> Snorkel: the sticky bit has no effect on files
[11:22] <Ng> (on linux)
[11:22] <Snorkel> Ok. I didnt know that. Thanx
[11:22] <Angel_Dex> nitishp like i said i like using hte hosts file i combined about 7 hosts files from the net into one
[11:22] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: What is this for?
[11:22] <rage__> Does hotplug not pickup the card when you switch it on and off?
[11:22] <rewt_> rage, no
[11:22] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Sounds to me like it's either a makeshift nameserver or a makeshift firewall.
[11:23] <rage__> have you added the module into /etc/modules?
[11:23] <rewt_> well i dont know...seems to work fine when booting up until it gets to configuring networks
[11:23] <Angel_Dex> nitishp As i know Linux is safe from viruses and malware tho i still use a hosts file to protect meself nomatter what and mostly to just keep the net looking clean and feeling safe Ease on the mind more then enything
[11:23] <rewt_> once it gets to configuring network it hang for about 2 mins then load
[11:23] <rage__> that just executes at boot tho
[11:23] <rewt_> and the button no longer works
[11:23] <rowanjl> Does anyone here have a sound blaster live?
[11:23] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Use a firewall program of some sort then, like iptables.
[11:23] <liable> looking for dhcp..
[11:23] <rewt_> before I get to configuring networks i can push it on and off non stop
[11:23] <zebraFusion> when I "ssh my.remote.ip" and it says it isn't connectable, what am I doing wrong?
[11:23] <rewt_> i added the mod yes
[11:24] <zebraFusion> Do you need to unblock ports or something for ssh?
[11:24] <rewt_> the butto lights up on boot up and when it gets to configuing network the light goes off and the button no longer works?
[11:24] <Angel_Dex> nitishp Hum I feel better using the hosts FIle is there any site you may know of about Hosts files on linux? i have only found them on windows
[11:24] <rage__> have you read up about hotplug?
[11:24] <nbound> !nvidia
[11:24] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:24] <liable> zebraFusion: no, you need to run the service, but if you have a router...
[11:25] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Okay, the hosts file you'd edit is /etc/hosts. No, I don't know of any such site. Furthermore, I urge you to get a software firewall instaed of wasting your time on /etc/hosts
[11:25] <rewt_> rage__, I'm new to this stuff....so no I havent
[11:25] <rewt_> sorry
[11:25] <zebraFusion> liable: is the service running by default for Ubuntu?
[11:25] <Angel_Dex> nitishp what time will be wasted? I find it fun
[11:25] <liable> zebraFusion: no
[11:25] <bimberi> zebraFusion: no, install the ssh package
[11:25] <liable> zebraFusion: ubuntu doesnt run any net services by default
[11:25] <zebraFusion> bimberi, sudo apt-get install ssh?
[11:25] <bimberi> zebraFusion: yep
[11:26] <rage__> rewt_, have a google. You might find what you need.
[11:26] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Clearly our definitions of "fun" vary. Have fun spending countless hours on /etc/hosts editing.
[11:26] <bimberi> zebraFusion: openssh-client is installed by default but installing ssh will bring in openssh-server
[11:26] <Angel_Dex> nitishp Um 10 minutes max man Download the hosts files combind um with me program and replace the hosts file Simple
[11:26] <rewt_> rage__, I tried that earlier with someone in here
[11:26] <rewt_> they couldnt even figure it out
[11:26] <rowanjl> ffs, why does everything have to be an epic struggle..?
[11:27] <rewt_> rowanjl, i hear ya
[11:27] <Ng> rowanjl: what is?
[11:28] <nitishp> Coming from other distributions, I have to say that Ubuntu is easily the most noob friendly distribution out there, so if you think Ubuntu is hard.... good luck with other distributions.
[11:28] <rowanjl> First I couldn't get video playback that wasn't choppy, then I spent three hours making interlacing work, and now I can't get my soundcard to work :(
[11:28] <rewt_> row didu have sound b4?
[11:28] <rowanjl> I have sound, but only 2 channels...
[11:29] <zebraFusion> bimberi, thanks again. You've been very helpful with every question I've had. :] 
[11:29] <rewt_> rowanjl, how do you know you have 2 channels?
[11:29] <rowanjl> because they are the only two wich any sound comes out of
[11:29] <rewt_> rowanjl, how do I check?
[11:29] <rowanjl> I have six channels, but only the front two are working
[11:29] <bimberi> zebraFusion: np, coincidence surely :)
[11:29] <rage__> rewt_, I've never had to add anything to hotplug but i'll look into it
[11:30] <rewt_> rage__, thanks
[11:30] <rewt_> rage__, how do I check my channels?
[11:30] <rowanjl> rewt_, use the mixer, select Edit > Preferences and then look for "surround" and "center"
[11:30] <liable> man iwconfig
[11:30] <liable> oh, sound..
[11:30] <rowanjl> I've been searching on google for two hours now, and I've not found anything usefull
[11:31] <Pablo_C> anyone run 915resoulution?
[11:31] <rewt_> rowanjl, where is the mixer?
[11:31] <rowanjl> double click on the speaker icon in the tray
[11:31] <rewt_> okay
[11:31] <rewt_> now what
[11:32] <rowanjl> Edit > Preferences
[11:32] <rewt_> k
[11:32] <rowanjl> and look for surround and center
[11:32] <Ng> rowanjl: it may be that it's not supported by the linux driver. I don't have enough speakers to have needed to find out though
[11:32] <rewt_> i dont see any of those
[11:33] <rage__> rewt_, usb/pcmia or pci?
[11:33] <rewt_> what?
[11:33] <rewt_> the wireless card?
[11:33] <rowanjl> Ng, right, I'll just use Windows then :/
[11:33] <Pablo_C> o.O
[11:33] <rewt_> rowanjl, surround and center isnt in the list
[11:33] <rewt_> rage__, the card is integrated
[11:33] <rowanjl> rewt_, do you know what card you have?
[11:33] <zebraFusion> woot.
[11:34] <rowanjl> probably just a two channel card then
[11:34] <zebraFusion> ssh is working :] 
[11:34] <rewt_> yea lemme look t it again
[11:34] <rowanjl> Right, I'm going back into windows to watch some movies
[11:34] <Angel_Dex> anyone have a good Xwine icon?
[11:35] <rage__> There is alot of infomation on hotplug
[11:35] <rewt_> says
[11:35] <rewt_> 54g 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM* / SpeedBooster and BroadRange support
[11:35] <rewt_> and
[11:35] <bart___> rewt_, try a sudo lspci, it should show
[11:36] <gnomefreak> you shouldnt need sudo to run lspci
[11:36] <rewt_>  Card: Broadcom BCM94318
[11:36] <bart___> gnomefreak, either way :) lspci is what could help
[11:36] <rewt_> it doesnt say in lspci
[11:36] <rewt_> jsut has 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[11:37] <rewt_> :-P
[11:37] <rewt_> but it is Card: Broadcom BCM94318
[11:37] <Angel_Dex> anyone have a good Xwine icon?
[11:37] <liable> if lspci shows unkown haedware.. update-pciids
[11:38] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:/$ update pciids
[11:38] <rewt_> bash: update: command not found
[11:38] <liable> yes, thats not what i wrote..
[11:38] <gnomefreak> you missed the -
[11:38] <rage__> rewt_, http://www.bangmoney.org/presentations/hotplug/
[11:39] <rewt_> 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:39] <rage__> woops, im not spose to do that am i? :o
[11:39] <Mabus06> okay, this is really starting to get to me... how come there are all kinds of popups with checkboxes that say "alert me whenever I submit information that isn't encrypted" or going from encrypted to unencrypted, etc. They're unchecked. I've tried checking them, and then unchecking them the next time they pop up.
[11:40] <Mabus06> But still, they keep popping up. What is the point of the checkbox if they're going to alert me every time anyway?
[11:40] <rogk> Which tool I could use in Ubuntu for managing services?
[11:40] <rewt_> rage__, did you get that
[11:40] <rewt_> ?
[11:40] <rewt_> 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> Mabus06: its for mozilla and its because you shouldnt check it and it will go away for each site not all sites at once
[11:41] <DuXia> hi
[11:41] <slide> Can I log in to an X session from another computer (2 linux boxes) ?
[11:41] <DuXia> got a qns here
[11:41] <DuXia> my server keeps having this 15mins downtime intervals intermittently
[11:41] <Mabus06> gnomefreak: for EACH site? How do I disable that?
[11:41] <zebraFusion> Once a development stage of Linux starts "I.e. Dapper"
[11:41] <DuXia> anyone knows why?
[11:41] <zebraFusion> do all updated packages for Breezy cease to be updated
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Mabus06: last time i checked you cant
[11:42] <zebraFusion> slide, yes, with VNC?
[11:42] <bigfoot1> how come when i do some commands in Terminal, I don't get anything but a ">" character?
[11:42] <slide> zebraFusion, any way to do it with just X?
[11:42] <zebraFusion> slide, none that I've ever heard of or am aware of.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: you get a $ or # in linux not a >>
[11:43] <zebraFusion> VNC works well for me, I use it to manage GUI's remotely.
[11:43] <slide> hrm, what about X11Forwarding?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> > = dos
[11:43] <gnomefreak> or python but you get the picture
[11:43] <DuXia> anybody encounters 15mins downtime problems?
[11:44] <nitishp> gnomefreak: It could have been that his/her PS1 variable was set to ">"
[11:44] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: yes, usually i get $ when i run a command, but sometimes i get a >
[11:44] <rewt_> I've gottan a >
[11:44] <zebraFusion> How can I change my hostname?
[11:44] <bigfoot1> and when i get a >, nothing happens.
[11:44] <zebraFusion> ie... veritas@hostname
[11:44] <rewt_> keep pushing enter it will go away :-P
[11:44] <rewt_> Thats what I do
[11:44] <rewt_> lol
[11:44] <rewt_> About 25 enters later it's gone
[11:44] <bigfoot1> for example I tried realplay http://somewebsite.com/music.rm, and realplayer program doesn't open up. I get only > in termnial
[11:45] <rage__> someone should make a wargames speaker box with festival ;)
[11:45] <bigfoot1> rewt_: my purpose is not to get rid of >. My purpose is to make the command work
[11:45] <rewt_> is there anyway to turn on  a module automatically after bootup
[11:45] <rage__> ubotu, tell rage about festival
[11:45] <rewt_> like the last thing it does before xserv
[11:46] <zebraFusion> How can I change my hostname?
[11:46] <zebraFusion> ie... veritas@hostname
[11:46] <liable> bigfoot1: well, its waiting for more input.
[11:46] <rage__> sudo hostname
[11:46] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: you can do that in system>admin>networking
[11:46] <liable> bigfoot1: so, check out the man page cause you musnt have supplied enough parameters
[11:47] <rewt_> uhhh
[11:47] <rewt_> i just typed in sudo hostname
[11:47] <zebraFusion> gnomefreak, will that save permanetly?
[11:48] <rewt_> and then i put a different name after it
[11:48] <Ng> bigfoot1: > means you haven't finished typing the line you started
[11:48] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: should
[11:48] <rewt_> closed the terminal and now another one wont open
[11:48] <rewt_> >.<
[11:48] <zebraFusion> rewt_, yeah, you must relog in
[11:48] <rewt_> sigh
[11:48] <Ng> bigfoot1: e.g. chances are there was a \ on your previous line, or a '
[11:48] <rewt_> rage__, still here
[11:48] <liable> rewt_: dont just type random shit in terminals, try and understand what you are actually doing.
[11:49] <bigfoot1> liable, do you want to try one specific command i entered?
[11:49] <rewt_> i wanted to change my host name
[11:49] <rewt_> and someone else did too
[11:49] <rewt_> so i followed the instructions
[11:49] <rewt_> sudo hostname
[11:49] <liable> bigfoot1: i dont have realplayer
[11:50] <Ng> rewt_: if you want to change your hostname permanently you probably want to use the network admin tool
[11:50] <gnomefreak> rewt_: use the graphical way. its more user friendly
[11:50] <liable> rewt_: no, edit /etc/hostname, then run hostname
[11:50] <rewt_> ill brb gotta restart now :(
[11:50] <amphi> rewt_: echo your_hostname | sudo tee /etc/hostname
[11:50] <Ng> rewt_: if you just restart after running sudo hostname your hostname will go back to what it was
[11:50] <Ng> amphi: isn't that a little bit convoluted? ;)
[11:50] <liable> rewt_: why reboot?
[11:50] <Ng> amphi: especially when three solutions were just presented
[11:50] <amphi> Ng: is it?
[11:50] <rewt_> because i cannot get into terminal
[11:51] <zebraFusion> I just logged out and logged back in
[11:51] <zebraFusion> and my hostname is what I changed it to
[11:51] <bigfoot1> Ng: on the dvorak keyboard layout, where is the  \ character?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: good :)
[11:51] <amphi> Ng: lot quicker than opening /etc/hostname in an editor or blundering about in dialog boxes and menus </curmudgeon>
[11:51] <rewt_> how do i open terminal now>.<
[11:51] <rewt_> its like my permission is denied
[11:51] <zebraFusion> rewt_, just log out and log back in. Easy.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> rewt_: have you logged out yet?
[11:52] <rewt_> not yet
[11:52] <rewt_> h/o
[11:52] <gnomefreak> rewt_: well than try it
[11:52] <cimek> hello all
[11:52] <zebraFusion> is there a terminal cmd to restart a certain Aplication?
[11:52] <bigfoot1> Ng, no, in my command, i didn't have a \, nor a '. But i have / (as in URLs)
[11:53] <rewt_> uh oh
[11:53] <rewt_> it said add something to /etc/hosts
[11:53] <cimek> how do i change my desktop color on UBUNTU?
[11:53] <rewt_> and now my resolution is all messed up :(
[11:53] <liable> zebraFusion: kill it, then retart it, unless its a daemon, you cant restart with a single command
[11:53] <rewt_> what do i do???
[11:53] <rewt_> :'(
[11:55] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:~$ sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:55] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[11:55] <happie> hallo
[11:55] <liable> err, just hostname..
[11:56] <rewt_> i changed my hostname on aacident
[11:56] <rewt_> my hostname used to be ubuntu
[11:56] <rewt_> i changed it in terminal by typing   sudo hostname tEoti
[11:56] <rewt_> how do I get it back to normal?
[11:57] <Aegir> rewt_, sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:57] <manty> Aegir: it doesn't change it, reboot?
[11:57] <rewt_> Aegir, i did that
[11:57] <liable> rewt_: it will not have changed. you need to edit the hots file. sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:57] <liable> back to naormal..
[11:57] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:~$ sudo hostname ubuntu
[11:57] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[11:58] <liable> cat /etc/hosts
[11:58] <liable> err.. hostname..
[11:59] <rewt_> my /etc/hostname says my hostname is ubuntu
[11:59] <rewt_> but when I go to terminal and type in hostname
[11:59] <rewt_> it says tEoti
[12:00] <gnomefreak> rewt_: whats after the @ sign in the prompt?
[12:00] <rewt_> tEoti
[12:00] <bigfoot1> i have a japanese keyboard, but am using English Dvorak keyboard layout. ANybody else with a similar situation?
[12:00] <rewt_> i logged out hten back in
[12:00] <rewt_> and it still has tEoti
[12:00] <gnomefreak> rewt_: sudo hostname ubuntu  than log out and back in
[12:00] <cimek> how do i change my desktop backround?.....i can't even browse my floppy
[12:00] <rewt_> gnomefreak, should it say this
[12:00] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:~$ sudo hostname ubuntu
[12:00] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:00] <gnomefreak> rewt_: than go to system>admin>networking and change it there
[12:01] <rewt_> i want it to be ubuntu again
[12:01] <bart___> anyone know a good equalizer sound app ?
[12:01] <rewt_> gnomefreak, help me :(
[12:01] <gnomefreak> rewt_: try it with the networking tool in gnome that should change it to ubuntu
[12:02] <rewt_> i cant get to it it's like im denied access
[12:02] <gnomefreak> see above to find it
[12:03] <rewt_> gnome ??
[12:03] <rewt_> i cant get into networking
[12:03] <liable> rewt_: sudo hostname -F /etc/hostname
[12:03] <gnomefreak> rewt_: give me a sec im thinking
[12:03] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ sudo hostname -F /etc/hostname
[12:03] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:04] <gnomefreak> rewt_: you wont beable to use sudo thats why im thinking :(
[12:04] <bigfoot1> how do i convert a wav file to mp3, keeping the bitrate the same (so that the file is not any bigger than it should be, nor is it smaller that the audio quality is compromised).
[12:04] <bigfoot1> keeping the audio quality the same.
[12:04] <rewt_> :(
[12:04] <bigfoot1> hey guys
[12:05] <manty> bigfoot1: flac?
[12:05] <bart___> bigfoot1, cant be done, wav is a non bitrate format, mp3 is bitrate based, so there is always a loss unless you go for insane bitrate
[12:05] <liable> rewt_: cat /etc/hosts
[12:05] <gnomefreak> rewt_: what happens when you type sudo hostname tEoti than log out nad back in
[12:05] <bigfoot1> manty: if flac, how?
[12:06] <rewt_> liable, cat?
[12:06] <GURT> how do i get my usbdrive to not be read only?
[12:06] <bigfoot1> bart___: oh. but can we keep the drop in audio quality negligibe (not heard in human ears)?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> rewt_: yes cat
[12:06] <rewt_> what is cat?
[12:07] <bart___> bigfoot1, yeah, probably best done on varbitrate or 192 oe 256
[12:07] <gnomefreak> a command :) read man cat
[12:07] <rewt_> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[12:07] <rewt_> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[12:07] <rewt_> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[12:07] <rewt_> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[12:07] <rewt_> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[12:07] <rewt_> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[12:07] <rewt_> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[12:07] <rewt_> ?
[12:08] <bart___> rewt you miss something like: 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       sion
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rewt_: if you change the host so all match than change it from the netwok tool it should fix everything
[12:08] <rewt_> so what do i do
[12:08] <bigfoot1> bart___: ok. so how do you suggest converting wav to mp3, and to do it in various bitrates, so i can test what bitrate is optimal for my ears?
[12:08] <bart___> rewt_, try what gnome says
[12:08] <rewt_> i dont understand what he is saying
[12:08] <rewt_> im new to this stuff
[12:09] <gnomefreak> rewt_: sudo hostname tE whatever it is
[12:09] <bart___> bigfoot1, beauty of var is it adjusts bitrate where needed and has an overall better quality
[12:09] <rewt_> yeA
[12:09] <gnomefreak> than logout and back in
[12:09] <rewt_> so instead of doing sudo hostname ubuntu
[12:09] <rewt_> do sudo hostname tEoti
[12:09] <rewt_> ?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> go to system>admin>networking and change it to ubuntu there log out and back in :)
[12:09] <bigfoot1> bart___: that sounds nice. so Var it will be for me.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> rewt_: yes they need to match
[12:09] <bigfoot1> bart___: what program should we use for wav to mp3 conversion?
[12:09] <bart___> bigfoot1, do one on var, and same song on 256, and compare :)
[12:10] <arno_> !easysource
[12:10] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:10] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ sudo hostname tEoti
[12:10] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:10] <gnomefreak> rewt_: what does sudo -i output?
[12:10] <bart___> bigfoot1, I have not made mp3's on ubuntu/linux yet :) but someone suggested one earlier
[12:10] <bigfoot1> when, bart___?
[12:10] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ sudo -i
[12:10] <rewt_> sudo: unable to lookup tEoti via gethostbyname()
[12:10] <bigfoot1> before i stepped into the room?
[12:10] <bigfoot1> this hour?
[12:11] <bart___> bigfoot1, flac ? I dont know it
[12:11] <Hoxzer> is there any program that can automaticaly remove not connectable repos from sources.list?
[12:11] <bart___> bigfoot1, check your application list
[12:12] <bart___> bigfoot1, there is one called SOund Converter there
[12:12] <bart___> bigfoot1, A simple sound converter application for the GNOME environment. It reads anything the GStreamer library can read, and writes WAV, FLAC, MP3, and Ogg Vorbis files.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Hoxzer: not that i ever seen
[12:12] <Hoxzer> :(
[12:12] <gnomefreak> rewt_: this is bad
[12:12] <rewt_> :(
[12:13] <rewt_> what do i do :'(
[12:13] <bart___> rewt_, what says: cat /etc/hostname
[12:13] <gnomefreak> it is a good way to teach how sudo is safer than su :( if used right
[12:13] <rewt_> rewt@tEoti:/$ cat /etc/hostname
[12:13] <rewt_> ubuntu
[12:13] <bart___> thats good
[12:14] <monzie> I have gotten a pgp problem, can someone please help?
[12:14] <bigfoot1> is there a way to get an ipod to play Flac format files?
[12:14] <bart___> your hosts file is still bad
[12:14] <liable> gnomefreak: you ban ruin your system just as good with sudo..
[12:14] <bart___> bigfoot1, you on fixed ip ? or dhcp ?
[12:14] <monzie> i lost my pgp key, how to recover it?
[12:14] <bigfoot1> bart___: i'm not sure. why?
[12:14] <bart___> bigfoot1, woops soz
[12:14] <gnomefreak> liable: yes but as long as you use sudo before each command (and have a clue what you are typing) it can cut down on it
[12:15] <bart___> rewt_, you on fixed IP or dhcp ?
[12:15] <bigfoot1> bart___: i thought you were adressing someone else.
[12:15] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[12:15] <rewt_> should i restart the whole compter?
[12:15] <bart___> bigfoot1, I was :) lazy me
[12:15] <rewt_> dhcp
[12:15] <rewt_> wireless
[12:15] <bart___> rewt_, try add a line manually to your hosts file
[12:15] <rewt_> i cannot get into a root mode to edit anything
[12:15] <rewt_> it's all read only
[12:16] <bimberi> rewt_: you can in 'recovery mode'
[12:16] <liable> rewt_: paste the whole /etc/hosts file in #flood
[12:16] <rewt_> the one in right now?
[12:16] <bart___> rewt_, cant do: sudo nano -w /etc/hosts
[12:16] <liable> sudo can edit anything..
[12:17] <liable> i want to see that file.\
[12:17] <bimberi> rewt_: no, it's an option in the grub menu at boot time
[12:17] <bart___> liable, sure it can
[12:17] <a2xm> hi, I need help here.. my samba server has 2 printer. HP deskjet 420 & HP deskjet 3550. client can print to the deskjet 420, but for the 3550 it seems the driver is not correct.. anybody knows? thanks
[12:17] <bart___> liable, try a sudo nano -w /etc/hosts and see
[12:17] <sorush20> !azureus
[12:17] <rewt_> whenever i do recovery mode i never have internet?
[12:17] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:17] <bart___> rewt_, can you do: sudo nano -w /etc/hosts
[12:17] <rewt_> so how would i get on irc
[12:17] <gnomefreak> he cant get sudo because the hostname ubuntu has access not tEl...
[12:17] <MatyasZA> Hello
[12:17] <liable> bart___: erm, it isnt me that was wondering about it..
[12:17] <gnomefreak> rewt_: to fix this you dont need internet
[12:17] <liable> bart___: i have root.. :)
[12:17] <bart___> gnomefreak, yes on a networked command, nano may be clean
[12:17] <rewt_> bart___, no
[12:18] <ProfessorChaos> anyone in here running Xgl on nvidia hardware?
[12:18] <rewt_> gnomefreak, i f im pasting something into irc i will
[12:18] <bart___> rewt_, same error or did not try ?
[12:18] <rewt_> same error
[12:18] <sorush20> why isnt' azureus in the repositories? and Ihave to download form a debian repository?
[12:18] <bart___> rewt_, did you google on the error ?
[12:18] <bart___> rewt_, or search the ubuntu forums on it ?
[12:18] <liable> rewt_: the top line of /etc/hosts
[12:18] <gnomefreak> sorush20: its non free
[12:19] <bart___> liable, yes his local host line is missiong
[12:19] <rewt_> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[12:19] <rewt_> is my top line
[12:19] <sorush20> how comes its in the debian repositories then if it is non-free?
[12:19] <bart___> rewt_, thats a fine line and needed badly
[12:19] <bigfoot1> alp
[12:19] <rewt_> so what do i do
[12:19] <liable> rewt_: just reboot
[12:19] <rewt_> okay
[12:19] <rewt_> brb
[12:20] <gnomefreak> sorush20: i have a feeling its not a debian stable repo than
[12:20] <liable> save us all the headache
[12:20] <MatyasZA> Has anyone played around with Network Traffic Accounting Soloutions on Ubuntu before? ANY idea if netacct any good?
[12:20] <GURT> how do i get my usbdrive to not be read only when it automounts?
[12:20] <a2xm> anyone can help me with printer on samba?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> sorush20: i wouldnt use the debian repo to get it anyway
[12:21] <bart___> GURT, mine automounts and is R/W so no idea
[12:22] <GURT> mine was. it decided to stop working.
[12:22] <GURT> thanks for the help!
[12:23] <bart___> GURT, what does your drive properties say ?
[12:23] <bart___> GURT, permissions tab
[12:23] <GURT> drwx------
[12:24] <bart___> GURT, I mean, right click on icon, select properties, select permissions tab
[12:24] <GURT> ok
[12:24] <bart___> GURT, File owner and group
[12:24] <GURT> both my name
[12:25] <bart___> GURT, that should work then but it has me puzzled too since it claims I cant change group cause I am not owner in the bottom remark, wierd
[12:25] <GURT> yeah
[12:25] <GURT> says im the owner and then says im not.
[12:26] <nomad111> !boot
[12:26] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nomad111
[12:26] <bart___> GURT, sure its not R/W ? folders I copy from it come accross RO but I can add files and folders to my external hd
[12:26] <nomad111> !grub
[12:26] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:26] <Arafangion> For some reason I can't resume from standby if I am not running X - any suggestions?
[12:26] <rewt_> -.- no luck
[12:27] <GURT> positive
[12:27] <GURT> i can't add anything
[12:27] <bart___> rewt_, paste the error again and I check the ubuntu forums ?
[12:27] <rewt_> :-P jk worked. sorry for the head aches fells :) i appreciate the help.
[12:27] <GURT> i can't even create a new folder on it
[12:27] <rewt_> *fellas
[12:27] <bart___> rewt_, omg bastard :)
[12:27] <rewt_> hehe thats no language to speak to a lady with
[12:27] <rewt_> I just wish I could get muh button to work now.
[12:27] <Arafangion> rewt_: Unless bart___'s a lady.
[12:28] <amphi> "irc, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents"
[12:28] <bigfoot1> if i have a low qualtiy (64Kbs) mp3 file and i try, using soundconverter, to convert it to highquality 256 kbs, what would happen?Would I just be wasting hard drive space? The sound quality can't go rrom bad to good, right?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> lol amphi
[12:28] <rewt_> amphi, lol
[12:28] <rewt_> okay so now to work on my button.
[12:28] <GURT> bigfoot1: right.
[12:28] <bart___> bigfoot1, yup
[12:28] <Ng> bigfoot1: correct
[12:28] <GURT> bigfoot1: you can't make diamonds by polishing a turd
[12:28] <bart___> bigfoot1, better find a better mp3 of that same thing :)
[12:29] <amphi> bart___: completely useless - the quality would get worse, if anything
[12:29] <cafuego> GURT: You can if you compress the turd first.
[12:29] <bart___> amphi, que ?
[12:29] <GURT> cafuego: it'd still be a pretty shitty diamond
[12:29] <amphi> bart___: sorry, tab-tarding, that was for bigfoot1
[12:29] <cafuego> GURT: I hear brows ones are extra special
[12:29] <Arafangion> cafuego: Trust you to come into this :)
[12:29] <cafuego> Arafangion: What are you implying?
[12:30] <Arafangion> cafuego: Long time no see :)
[12:30] <bart___> any way to make amarok play gapless ?
[12:31] <nomad111> how do u delete kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[12:31] <nomad111> coz i dun need it anymore
[12:31] <nomad111> and the other 2
[12:31] <nomad111> modes
[12:31] <Arafangion> cafuego: Anyway, I must be tired.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> nomad111: find it in synaptic and choose completely remove
[12:31] <amphi> nomad111: apt-get remove
[12:31] <rewt_> brb
[12:32] <Arafangion> cafuego: I also thought I recognised you from #math on efnet.
[12:32] <Arafangion> cafuego: That does suck.
[12:32] <bigfoot1> using soundconverter, i chose, in preferences, to have Variable Bit Rate, but in nautilus, when i rightclick on the mp3  and choose Properties/Audio Tab, it says CBR, or Constant Bit rate. What's going on?
[12:33] <cafuego> Arafangion: I can say with 100% certainty I haven't been on efnet in well over 5 years (certainly not on #math)
[12:33] <liable> amphi: hahaha, thats one of the better explanations of irc i,ve seen.
[12:34] <Arafangion> cafuego: Well I was on there about 4 years ago, so it must not have been you.  With respect to outlook - that's why I like to use eudora, or thunderbird, and have the emails hosted on a samba share.
[12:34] <a2xm> anyone can help me with printer on samba? ;-)
[12:34] <brenner> bigfoot1: er, aren't all mp3s constant?
[12:34] <Arafangion> (Though I'm considering migrating to imap)
[12:34] <bart___> brenner, no :)
[12:35] <cafuego> It's not quick on a K6/350 with 32Mb ram, though.
[12:35] <brenner> rightio then
[12:35] <cafuego> ... when you need to move ~ 600Mb of mail per machine.
[12:35] <bigfoot1> brenner: according to Soundconverter/Preferences, we can choose from Constant, Variable, or Average
[12:35] <Arafangion> cafuego: The only thing stopping me is that I can't be bothered to move to imap :)  Starting uni and all that.
[12:35] <sorush20> anyone here changed to modular xorg?
[12:35] <Arafangion> cafuego: Plus, pop3 is working fine.
[12:35] <kwewu14> is there anything like gentoo's genkernel to automate compiling a kernel and all modules for ubuntu? i want a kernel with PREEMPT
[12:35] <cafuego> sorush20: Probably everyone on breezy.
[12:36] <brenner> like i said, rightio then.  i've only seen flac and ogg files that vary.
[12:36] <sorush20> cafuego: what xorg version 6.8?
[12:36] <cafuego> kwewu14: The default kernels have preempt.
[12:36] <cafuego> sorush20: I thought so...
[12:36] <Arafangion> cafuego: G'night.
[12:36] <cafuego> sorush20: it installs *all* modules by default, but afaik it's still modular ;-)
[12:36] <kwewu14> cafuego: why doesn't it say that in uname -a then?
[12:36] <cafuego> Arafangion: ditto :-)
[12:37] <sorush20> cafuego: take a look at x.org and your see that 6.8 is not modular...
[12:37] <cafuego> kwewu14: Why should it? Check in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[12:37] <DuXia> hi.. can i ask a qns regarding courier pop?
[12:37] <DuXia> anyone?
[12:37] <sorush20> cafuego: join #xrog its in the channel
[12:37] <cafuego> sorush20: Well, there ya go (I'm on 7.0)
[12:37] <kwewu14> cafuego: oh, if i set it there and reboot it'll reboot with preempt?
[12:37] <sorush20> cafuego: do you have ati or radeon ?
[12:38] <kwewu14> i just noticing alot of performance decrease from my gentoo install
[12:38] <liable> ati == radeon??
[12:38] <nomad111> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:38] <sorush20> cafuego: how did you change over any easy way?
[12:38] <kwewu14> i thought preempt might be why.
[12:38] <cafuego> sorush20: Yes, it comes with dapper.
[12:38] <cafuego> kwewu14: Doubtful
[12:38] <kwewu14> cafuego: any idea why then?
[12:39] <kwewu14> can i set preempt on in /boot config?
[12:39] <Heia> hi
[12:39] <snoozix> good morning everyone :)
[12:39] <cafuego> kwewu14: No, you check in the config file if the kernel is compiled with it. 'man grep'.
[12:39] <Heia> hi
[12:40] <kwewu14> cafuego: the kernel is not compiled with it.
[12:40] <nomad111> !permission
[12:40] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nomad111
[12:40] <nomad111> !ntfs
[12:40] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:40] <rewt_> k
[12:40] <bigfoot1> is breezy ubuntu on x11 or x10 or what?
[12:40] <kwewu14> cafuego: and i know what grep is
[12:41] <rewt_> It is supposed to get in the 70's here today ^_^
[12:43] <nitishp> Has anyone worked with krb5 and kdm logins on Ubuntu?
[12:43] <nitishp> If so, how did you implement it?
[12:43] <AM3X> how can i make my dialup modem get detected?
[12:44] <rewt_> AM3X, Preferences Administration>Networking
[12:44] <rewt_> Click on dialup moden or whatever and hit activate
[12:44] <AM3X> its not working..
[12:44] <AM3X> i already tried the auto detect
[12:44] <liable> try pppconfig or wvdial
[12:44] <AM3X> yes i know that
[12:45] <AM3X> where can i download that?
[12:45] <rewt_> I dunno then....I don't use dialup? :-\
[12:45] <rewt_> Sorry
[12:45] <brenner> AM3X: what modem?  you might have a winmodem. *shudder*
[12:45] <nitishp> Hrm, not sure if that message got through for some weird reason.
[12:45] <snoozix> is there an additional software equalizer that i can use with alsa applications (xmms)? the builtin eq in xmms does not satisfy my needs at all and it sounds crappy.
[12:45] <AM3X> errrrrrr
[12:45] <AM3X> whats a win modem?
[12:45] <liable> !winmodem
[12:45] <ubotu> winmodem is, like, totally, To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[12:45] <xerophyte> does anybody know any hotspot captive software ?
[12:46] <nomad111> !wma
[12:46] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:46] <nitishp> Has anyone worked with krb5 + smb + kdm logins on Ubuntu? If so, was there any way around actually editing the kdm source?
[12:46] <balor> AM3X, A modem that soes most of the work in software.  i.e. not a hardware modem
[12:46] <AM3X> ic
[12:46] <brenner> that's if he has one.  he might have just selected the wrong device
[12:46] <AM3X> is there a list of win modems?
[12:46] <snoozix> just rm all wma's and everything works.
[12:46] <rewt_> How do I get my sounds to work even while im listening to music?
[12:46] <brenner> AM3X: read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[12:47] <rewt_> IF I listen to music all other sounds go away
[12:47] <AM3X> ok thanks to you all
[12:47] <rewt_> I want them to all play at once.
[12:48] <rewt_> AM3X, sorry I wasn't much help.
[12:48] <rewt_> hmmmm
[12:49] <brenner> ubotu: tell rewt_ about sound
[12:51] <nomad111> !kubuntu
[12:51] <ubotu> kubuntu is probably Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:51] <brenner> rewt_: right at the bottom of the 1st link, the "Revised by DanielTChen" section
[12:52] <bigfoot1> i installed soundconverter (0.8.0) from ubuntu repositiory. I'd like to install the latest version (0.8.3) from the projects page at sourceforge. is it safe?
[12:52] <brenner> nomad111: use /msg ubotu please
[12:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !botsnack
[12:53] <ubotu> thanks canyouhelpmeplz :)
[12:54] <brenner> bigfoot1: unless it has a big fat warning, why wouldn't it be?
[12:54] <rewt_> brenner, that link u had ubotu send me isn't shyt. My sound works.
[12:54] <rewt_> I just need all sound to playat one time.
[12:55] <Mabus06> A quick off topic question... what is a surge proof powerbar? I use them, but every now and then my monitors go fuzzy, my computer makes weird sounds, my clock resets, modem gets an error light, and my computer turns off.
[12:55] <bigfoot1> brenner: i just thought the repositories was where we should go for all/most of our computing needs.
[12:55] <bigfoot1> brenner: *were*
[12:55] <brenner> bigfoot1: they are.
[12:57] <bigfoot1> Brenner, but it's not synched with the real world.
[12:57] <bigfoot1> brenner: some stuff in the repos are needing updates
[12:58] <nomad111> is there an easy way to switch between gnome and kde
[12:58] <brenner> bigfoot1: well, it's up to you.  either wait for dapper where i assume the updated app will be included, or use the external source ... or maybe use backports
[12:59] <brenner> bigfoot1: sconverter looks like a stand-alone app anyway.  there's little risk of damage by compiling the src, imho
[12:59] <bigfoot1> brenner: i wish the repos tried to get everything in there updated
[01:00] <monzie> slightly off topic question
[01:00] <monzie> launchpad.net not accepting keys
[01:00] <nomad111> how can i switch between gnome and kde any1
[01:01] <Chousuke> install KDE, log out, select KDE session, log in
[01:01] <bigfoot1> is using mp3s illegal?
[01:02] <bigfoot1> or: what does it  mean when they say that mp3 is "non-free"
[01:02] <brenner> rewt_: in that case, hit the forum.  i'm sure that's a common question
[01:02] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: mp3 is burdened by patents.
[01:02] <bigfoot1> Chousuke: so who should pay for these? if i make an mp3 file, should i pay?
[01:02] <andriijas> where can i search the ubuntu backports online?
[01:03] <Mabus06> I installed kismet via 'sudo apt-get install kismet', but I can't find the configuration file (readme on site says it's supposed to be in /usr/local/etc/kismet.conf, but that doesn't exist. A search for kismet.conf yields nothing. Any ideas?
[01:03] <allan_> hi, when I try to run winetools, I see these errors: /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3211: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file or directory
[01:03] <allan_> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3242: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file or directory
[01:03] <allan_> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3026: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file or directory
[01:03] <allan_> why?
[01:03] <andriijas> allan_: pastebin.com
[01:03] <Mabus06> allan_: use pastebin
[01:03] <allan_> i will type that in the terminal window?
[01:03] <bigfoot1> how can i easily  find out the audio bitrate, and whether it's VBR (variable bit rate) or constant,  of an mp3 file?
[01:03] <rewt_> fixed itteded!
[01:03] <rewt_> :-D
[01:03] <Mabus06> No, it means just don't post errors in here. Go to pastebin.com and post them there, link to it here.
[01:04] <allan_> ok...
[01:04] <rewt_> had to load a module
[01:04] <rewt_> :)
[01:05] <Kyo> I updated my ubunut ... is it normal for it to update libc6 ... it been stuck there for like 4 hours
[01:05] <Kyo> it wouldn't ocmtniie updating
[01:05] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: nah
[01:06] <Kyo> Chousuke any idea?
[01:06] <Chousuke> bigfoot1:  I think it's up to the creator of the player to pay the licence fee.
[01:06] <Kyo> it been stuck at libc6 for like, 4 hours now
[01:06] <Chousuke> Kyo: that's not normal :P
[01:06] <rewt_> anyway to make all windows in ubuntu semi-transparent
[01:06] <rewt_> ?
[01:06] <andriijas> theres no backports.org like site for ubuntu ?
[01:07] <andriijas> and what do you people say about debian vs ubuntu for server usage?
[01:07] <Kyo> heh nvm
[01:07] <brenner> bigfoot1: any good audio player should show you a fluctuating bitrate while the file is playing if it is variable
[01:08] <bimberi> !backports
[01:08] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:09] <brenner> andriijas: you want to search bp right? http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:09] <andriijas> bimberi: i was asking about a searchable website, not apt  :P that i already googled
[01:09] <bigfoot1> brenner: can you give an examlpe on ubuntu?
[01:09] <andriijas> brenner: thx
[01:09] <brenner> bigfoot1: beep-media-player
[01:09] <bimberi> andriijas: there's a link at the end of that factoid
[01:10] <rewt_> Anyway to make all windows in ubuntu semi-transparent?
[01:10] <bigfoot1> brenner:  any others? i have rythymbox, realplayer, totem installed. do they show the vbr?
[01:10] <brenner> bigfoot1: i just tried rbox and totem.  they don't.  afaik
[01:11] <bart___> bigfoot1, I use xmms here
[01:11] <rewt_> bart___, you should try beep
[01:12] <liquidindian> Hello, can anyone tell me how I know what to input to set up GRUB?
[01:12] <bart___> rewt_, no way, xmms is so good on gapless
[01:12] <rewt_> so is beep
[01:12] <bimberi> !grub
[01:12] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:12] <monzie> anyone fluent with pgp here?
[01:12] <rewt_> hehe
[01:12] <liquidindian> Thanks, that second one should be just what I'm after :)
[01:13] <rewt_> I need to figure out how to make all my windows semi-transparent
[01:13] <rewt_> im doing some searching now, but not finding anything
[01:13] <bart___> liquidindian, GRUB can mess you up quite badly if you dont know what you are doing
[01:13] <Ng> rewt_: that's an odd use of the word "need" ;)
[01:13] <rewt_> ?
[01:13] <liquidindian> Oh blimey.
[01:13] <rewt_> Ng, what
[01:13] <bigfoot1> brenner: yes! beep shows a VBR file's changing kbs. nice
[01:13] <brenner> liquidindian: you'll be fine
[01:14] <Ng> rewt_: nobody could "need" semi-transparent windows, you just "want" them. You'll need to enable compositing in your X server and install a compositing manager, neither of which is particularly supported in breezy
[01:14] <Ng> xcompmgr should be available though I think
[01:14] <Ng> the rest is down to your graphics card drivers
[01:14] <rewt_> damn well nevermind then if its not supported
[01:15] <rewt_> Wel i'm off for shower then class then work
[01:15] <monzie> is there anyway to recover a lost key if i know my key id and fingerprint?
[01:16] <Ng> monzie: the only way to recover the private key is to have a copy of it
[01:16] <monzie> on the hard disk?
[01:16] <Ng> or on some kind of backup
[01:16] <monzie> if i uploaded it to the mit server?
[01:16] <mjr> you didn't
[01:16] <Ng> you probably didn't upload the private key
[01:16] <mjr> you uploaded the public key
[01:16] <Ng> just the public one
[01:16] <monzie> i have it on the mit pgp server
[01:16] <mjr> (I hope)
[01:17] <monzie> the ascii armoured thing
[01:17] <Raimundo> exit
[01:17] <mjr> pretty much the point of public key crypto is that you can't deduce the private key from the public key
[01:17] <monzie> so that's lost i guess
[01:17] <mjr> so no go with that
[01:17] <silvermane> Hey, did someone here had lucky installing the Java Media Framework? I can't make it work...
[01:17] <xerophyte> is there any doc like this for Ubuntu http://www.linuxforum.com/debian/ch-gateway.en.html
[01:18] <monzie> i can import it in seahorse, my old key ,  i mean
[01:20] <a2xm> anyone knows why the print job was already send to the queue but the printer didn't print?
[01:21] <bart___> does anyone know a good news reader supporting yENC ?
[01:21] <liquidindian> Is there anyway to tell from the live CD the numbers of my partitions?
[01:21] <aIk0n> whats are the diverens between k8-default kernel and k8 kernel (sry for bad english iam german ^^)
[01:22] <monzie> help: i want to change my key in launchpad and
[01:22] <monzie> it wont accept my new key
[01:22] <brenner> aIk0n: what are you doing?
[01:23] <bigfoot1> is there any reason to make an mp3 file in Constant BitRate when Variable Bit rate will utilize high bit rate in places the song needs it and low bit rate in places the song doesn't need high bits?
[01:24] <bigfoot1> i can see VBR being efficient with filesize and audio quality
[01:24] <bimberi> liquidindian: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:25] <aIk0n> brenner:  i have installed ubuntu_64
[01:26] <andriijas> gha there are a lot of nice packages in dapper that should be in breezy backports
[01:26] <tatters> im looknig for a package wich is same as phpgroupware but will work with xammp
[01:26] <bimberi> andriijas: get to work then :P
[01:26] <brenner> aIk0n: have you finished the install, or are you getting this choice at install?
[01:26] <andriijas> bimberi: i have no clue how to do it :P
[01:27] <bimberi> andriijas: hehe, there might be something from that (previously useless) factoid i dug up for you :)
[01:27] <tatters> is there any other packages like phpgroupware ?
[01:27] <aIk0n> finish the install
[01:28] <brenner> bigfoot1: quick google came up with "two downsides are: slower encoding and unpredictable file sizes"
[01:28] <xerophyte> how can i stop some service not to start on the boot for example on fedora i had chkconfig .. is there any commands for ubuntu
[01:29] <aIk0n> brenner: now i want to install nvidia glx like in this tutorial http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=1611&hilight=nvidia but after boot the linux-amd64-k8 the system freezes
[01:30] <brenner> aIk0n: have you already installed the nvidia driver?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> xerophyte: your gonna find that most commands are the same from linux-linux
[01:30] <gnomefreak> outside of root and packagemanager
[01:30] <xerophyte> gnomefreak, is there any script to manage the boot start services ???
[01:30] <aIk0n> no
[01:31] <aIk0n> brenner:  no
[01:31] <xerophyte> how can i manage the boot start up services ??
[01:31] <brenner> xerophyte: sysv-rc-conf maybe?
[01:31] <brenner> aIk0n: so this is your first boot?
[01:32] <guerra> hail all
[01:32] <xerophyte> brenner, do you use it
[01:32] <sismis> good evenin
[01:32] <brenner> xerophyte: i have used it, yes
[01:32] <xerophyte> brenner, if you dont use that how can you manage it .. why does the standard install does not have it
[01:32] <sismis> hello
[01:32] <sismis> is anybody there
[01:32] <kryptoz> i went back from ubuntu to slackware . :) and i feel happy cuz there are hell lot of problems in slackware which will keep me busy for days :)
[01:32] <sismis> my name is Jo
[01:32] <brenner> xerophyte: maybe b/c most people don't need to tweak their start-up services
[01:33] <brenner> aIk0n: and is this dapper? because afaik, breezy doesn't a k8 kernel
[01:33] <andriijas> hmm what do you guys think of debian sarge with backports vs ubuntu dapper for development server using?
[01:33] <brenner> *doesn't have a
[01:33] <Angel_Dex> SO would anyone have any idea why i have no sound with Zsnes?
[01:33] <aIk0n> brenner:  ist breezy
[01:33] <sismis> HELLO
[01:34] <aIk0n> brenner: after installing nvidia it is work
[01:34] <brenner> Angel_Dex: try 'killall esd' before running it
[01:34] <aIk0n> brenner: but whats the diverens between k8 default and k8
[01:34] <sismis> can you tell me how to make partitions on a hard drive where win exists
[01:34] <takedown> brenner: linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8, breezy have a k8 kernel
[01:34] <sismis> HELLO
[01:34] <xerophyte> brenner, if you want to do manually how can i do i t
[01:34] <poningru> sismis: dude calm down
[01:34] <brenner> aIk0n: my guess is nothing.  they're the same
[01:34] <bimberi> locate zimbra
[01:35] <bimberi> D'Oh
[01:35] <sismis> poningru: did I say something wrong
[01:35] <brenner> !info linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[01:35] <poningru> sismis: the many hellos
[01:35] <Angel_Dex> brenner that worked but no system nor gaim soundsnow?
[01:35] <sismis> oh sorry
[01:35] <poningru> sismis: are you trying to dualboot?
[01:35] <sismis> but no one relpied
[01:35] <sismis> replied
[01:35] <poningru> sismis: take a look at the topic
[01:35] <sismis> no one even said hello to me :-(
[01:35] <IdleOne> lol
[01:36] <poningru> sismis: dont worry about it
[01:36] <sismis> yes, dualboot
[01:36] <poningru> !dualboot
[01:36] <ubotu> it has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:36] <nikon-ubuntu> dualboot = fun :D
[01:36] <Mabus06> I'm trying to set up kismet on ubuntu but I don't know what to set for the capture source... here () is a link to the part where it says what to use for the capture source, I use a Dlink DWL-G520 rev b, and this card works in the required mode (capture) and has been used successfully for airsnort. I just never had to install a driver (it worked out of the box on ubuntu), so I don't know what to pick.
[01:36] <andriijas> dualboot sucks
[01:36] <brenner> takedown: <ubotu> " Package 'linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8' does not exist" ... are you sure?
[01:36] <nikon-ubuntu> andriijas, its great when you have a company that still uses windows ;)
[01:37] <brenner> Angel_Dex: try restarting esd again.
[01:37] <takedown> brenner: sure, i used breezy x86_64 and have this kernel
[01:37] <Mabus06> http://pastebin.ca/41828
[01:37] <gnomefreak> brenner: ubotu doesnt know that command is what it means by does not exsist
[01:37] <Mabus06> Sorry ^^ there is the link
[01:37] <andriijas> the fact that you playaround and dualbooting at a company tells us how serious that company is
[01:37] <Angel_Dex> brenner how?
[01:38] <brenner> Angel_Dex: alt+f2. then type in esd
[01:38] <Angel_Dex> ok
[01:38] <brenner> Angel_Dex: i'm not sure really, i just recall having the same problem, and kiling esd fixed it.  i didn't check other sounds
[01:38] <poningru> sismis: did you get that?
[01:38] <guerra> hail all, i face a weird problem and id like to see if anyoen can help me. When i try to change terminas ( like pressin shit+alt+f1 ) i always get my screen screwed, liek some weird colors and the whole pc get stuck so i have to restart. I have ati Radeon and use those fglrx drivers.
[01:38] <sismis> is there a big chance of losing all my old files I had usind WIN
[01:38] <brenner> gnomefreak: ?
[01:38] <poningru> sismis: there is a very big chance
[01:38] <sismis> did I get what? I got the link, if that's what you mean
[01:39] <tahorg> hi
[01:39] <aIk0n> works acx100/111 with x86_64 ?????????????????
[01:39] <Angel_Dex> brenner it kills all the system sounds
[01:39] <tahorg> I've just upgraded to dapper
[01:39] <Angel_Dex> and gaim sounds
[01:39] <brenner> gnomefreak: i used !info
[01:39] <poningru> sismis: yeah
[01:39] <tahorg> but it seems my devices are not created at boot
[01:39] <brenner> Angel_Dex: then i suggest hitting the forum. :-/
[01:39] <tahorg> some of them
[01:39] <gnomefreak> brenner: the bot doesnt know that command its not programmed into the bot
[01:39] <tahorg> ppp, tun, input/mice
[01:39] <tahorg> what is the package responsible for that ?
[01:40] <tahorg> udev ?
[01:40] <poningru> guerra: yeah dude that config is not so stable
[01:40] <gnomefreak> !info kernel
[01:40] <sismis> so do you recommend format and putting up only ubuntu?
[01:40] <guerra> so no fixes for it yet?
[01:40] <brenner> gnomefreak: i seem to recall it being implemented...people were using it all the time.  it''s supposed to show a short package descr.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> brenner: ubotu seems not to have really anything programmed in about kernels
[01:40] <brenner> gnomefreak: the syntax was !info <package>
[01:41] <tatters> im looknig for a package wich is same as phpgroupware anyone know of any?
[01:41] <poningru> sismis: no just backup your data and do it, many steps can be taken to prevent data loss, such as defragment your windows as much as possible
[01:41] <gnomefreak> brenner: people change what the bot knows daily :(
[01:41] <poningru> sismis: I did it and it was no big deal for me
[01:41] <brenner> gnomefreak: apparently so. :-/
[01:41] <poningru> err it worked for me
[01:41] <poningru> guerra: do you do any graphics intensive stuff?
[01:42] <sismis> which application do you suggest for defragmenting, or should I just use the rudimentary one that comes with WIN?
[01:42] <guerra> i play linux-based nwn, only that though
[01:42] <gnomefreak> sismis: the one that comes with win should be fine
[01:42] <poningru> sismis: yeah the one included should be enough
[01:42] <IdleOne> sismis perfect disk has a good defragmenter also. there is a free trial
[01:42] <retebug> salve ubutoniani
[01:43] <retebug> i'm bill gates
[01:43] <retebug> lol
[01:43] <brenner> billy lives in italy now?
[01:43] <IdleOne> lol
[01:43] <sismis> so can I do more with trial version of Perfect DIsk, or with WIN defragmenter?
[01:43] <IdleOne> he speaks latin
[01:43] <gnomefreak> brenner: it makes using a computer so much more fun when you dont sit defragging for hours on end :)
[01:43] <poningru> guerra: so pressing ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 what happens?
[01:43] <brenner> gnomefreak: agreed!
[01:44] <poningru> sismis: do those give better defragmentation results?
[01:44] <IdleOne> sismis:  use either
[01:44] <poningru> sismis: I dont have much experience with win
[01:44] <sismis> yes, which one gives better results_
[01:44] <gnomefreak> sismis: the win one will more than likely
[01:44] <IdleOne> Pefect Disk doesnt need as much memory to run
[01:45] <IdleOne> but the win version is fine
[01:45] <guerra> screen gets weird when i press control alt f1 and when i go back to f7 it gets stuck, mostly like that
[01:45] <brenner> he's defragging once before setting up a dualboot.  i'd just use the win one and get it over with
[01:45] <sismis> so, you recommend backup and defrgament?
[01:45] <sismis> defragment
[01:45] <AnsiC> hello
[01:45] <sismis> hello ansiC
[01:45] <poningru> sismis: most definately backup and defrag
[01:45] <manty> hello
[01:45] <gnomefreak> sismis: yes always
[01:46] <IdleOne> sismis:  never mind perfect disk just use win version
[01:46] <sismis> anything else?????
[01:46] <AnsiC> someone have the printer EPSON Stylus DX4200 ???
[01:46] <poningru> guerra: hmm hold on
[01:46] <guerra> k, thanks
[01:46] <AnsiC> in the printer list of ubuntu there is not my printer
[01:46] <BeNjI> hi all
[01:47] <gnomefreak> AnsiC: than it means its not supported
[01:47] <sismis> just tell me, anything else I have to do before installing linux
[01:47] <poningru> guerra: what you can do is try the ati's proprietry licensed driver
[01:47] <brenner> sismis: no, you'll be fine.
[01:47] <gnomefreak> sismis: no that should be fine (unless we can talk you into getting rid of win) ;)
[01:47] <guerra> is that hard to install?
[01:48] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  :)
[01:48] <poningru> guerra: not really
[01:48] <poningru> guerra: you can use easyubuntu
[01:48] <poningru> guerra: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
[01:48] <sismis> thanks!!!!!! i can't wait to start using linux. bye
[01:49] <BeNjI> =)
[01:49] <bart_away> does anyone know a good news reader supporting yENC ?
[01:49] <BeNjI> i am just starting on Ubuntu it's look quite good for the moment
[01:49] <brenner> gnomefreak: for the games right? :)
[01:49] <arnix> !sound
[01:49] <ubotu> from memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:50] <gnomefreak> brenner: nope i dont play games im here for java class for the most part that is pretty much only reason its installed :(
[01:50] <andriijas> to install dapper you install breezy and then edit sources.list and apt upgrade?
[01:50] <zulfiqar_> what should i do to get my xVid videos running on my T40 laptop?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> andriijas: or you can download and burn dapper iso
[01:51] <andriijas> gnomefreak: didnt find any at the swedish mirror
[01:51] <andriijas> :S
[01:51] <brenner> gnomefreak: i thought java was platform-independent?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> brenner: it is but class isnt
[01:51] <xerophyte> in the /etc/network/interface file i have iface eth0 inet dhcp .. but it does not bring up the interface but i have another eth1 configured statically thats comes up .. how can i get the eth0 with dhcp on boot ..when i do dhcliet it works
[01:51] <njs12345> zulfiqar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:51] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[01:51] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[01:51] <bimberi> huh?
[01:52] <brenner> heh, something isn't right
[01:52] <gnomefreak> nm someone pulled that from ubotu
[01:52] <bimberi> !factinfo dapper
[01:52] <ubotu> dapper -- created by _jason <n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu> 9h 29m 26s ago; it has been requested 10 times, last by bimberi, 9s ago.
[01:52] <bimberi> !undelete dapper
[01:52] <ubotu> bimberi: cannot undeleted 'dapper' because it already exists!
[01:52] <bimberi> but it doesn't - huh?
[01:52] <arnix> Where tf is alsaconf? I'm just doing a breezy install at a friend, but the Soundblaster 128 wasn't detected by the installer ???
[01:52] <zulfiqar_> njs12345, if i install Automatix .. will that install all codes for me?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[01:53] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[01:53] <IdleOne> !info dapper
[01:53] <gnomefreak> zulfiqar_: dont install automatix
[01:53] <njs12345> zulfiqar_: I don't know, I don't use it..
[01:53] <zulfiqar_> gone
[01:53] <zulfiqar_> gnome
[01:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zulfiqar_ about automatix
[01:53] <IdleOne> ubotu Package 'dapper' does not exist.
[01:53] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[01:53] <nuxil> hello people
[01:54] <nuxil> How do i get rid of that automounter ??
[01:54] <zulfiqar_> gnomefreak, is there an alternate application?
[01:54] <nuxil> i hate it
[01:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zulfiqar_ about easyubuntu
[01:54] <gnomefreak> zulfiqar_: read the pm :)
[01:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell andriijas about flight3
[01:54] <nuxil> ubotu tell me about automounter
[01:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell andriijas about dailybuild
[01:55] <nuxil> blah,,, ubotu doent know what automounter is :(
[01:55] <nuxil> ubotu tell me about automount
[01:55] <andriijas> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[01:55] <brenner> arnix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118445&highlight=alsaconf
[01:55] <nuxil> err
[01:55] <nuxil> gnomefreak how can i get rif of automounter.. i like to mount my disk manualy
[01:55] <zulfiqar_> gnomefreak, thanks
[01:55] <lucasvo> what's the user password in the vmware virtual machine of ubuntu(cdimages.ubuntu.com/vmware)
[01:55] <nuxil> *rif/rid
[01:57] <nuxil> hmm..
[01:57] <meenfreem> hi guys and gals
[01:57] <nuxil> isnt automounter a module for the kernel.. or is it buildt into it
[01:58] <arnix> thx, brenner... But I'm not going to compile anything. either it works without headaches, or rm -rf / and install Kanotix
[01:58] <gnomefreak> nuxil: ive never used automounter but what was the .extention
[01:58] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[01:58] <kyo> How do I install KDE?
[01:58] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ^^^thought that was automounter
[01:58] <nuxil> gnomefreak .extention??
[01:58] <Adri2000> kyo: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <IdleOne> kyo:  sudo apt-get install kde
[01:59] <gnomefreak> exetention
[01:59] <Adri2000> !kde
[01:59] <Adri2000> ?
[01:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[01:59] <nuxil> what you mean..
[01:59] <gnomefreak> nuxil: .deb .tar.gz .run?????
[01:59] <nuxil> gnomefreak, doenst mattre
[01:59] <Adri2000> ubotu: tell me about kde
[01:59] <kyo> Adri2000, IdleOne  thats two different lines .. which one
[01:59] <kyo> oh I see
[01:59] <gnomefreak> nuxil: why doesnt it?
[01:59] <nuxil> gnomefreak, everytime i put a disk in my cdrom it automounts
[02:00] <gnomefreak> nuxil: ohhhhh that
[02:00] <IdleOne> kyo:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop sorry
[02:00] <nuxil> gnomefreak i hate that
[02:00] <gnomefreak> nuxil: no im not sure how to disable that (i dont think uninstalling it would be healthy) i would look for disabling it
[02:01] <nuxil> gnomefreak but if its included in the kernel.. hehe nogood i think,, i need a new kernel then
[02:01] <kyo> it says 'depends on libg11-messa' then it goes on saying broken package o_O
[02:01] <kein>  ubuntu, 
[02:01] <brenner> nuxil: sys>prefs>removable
[02:01] <kyo> when I try to install kunutu-desktop ... weird
[02:01] <zulfiqar_> is xvid installed by default when installing ubuntu?
[02:01] <brenner> nuxil: *shrug* i found it useful
[02:01] <brenner> s/found/find
[02:01] <AnsiC> hello
[02:01] <gnomefreak> kyo: kunutu??????
[02:01] <nuxil> brenner i dont
[02:02] <gnomefreak> kyo: did you try kubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <brenner> nuxil: well untoggle away then
[02:02] <kyo> yes
[02:02] <nuxil> brenner what you mean sys>prefs>removable ? your in gnome.. right?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> kyo: dapper?
[02:02] <kyo> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <nuxil> brenner, im in kde
[02:02] <brenner> nuxil: yes
[02:02] <kyo> no, breezer
[02:02] <kyo> er, breezy
[02:02] <Adri2000> kyo: what is the error?
[02:03] <kyo> the error is 'the following packages have unmet depedencies
[02:03] <gnomefreak> try to install the lib  sudo apt-get install lib....
[02:03] <brenner> nuxil: dunno then.  i'm not a kde user.  tried #kubuntu?
[02:03] <kyo> 'kubuntu-desktop depends on  libg11-messa
[02:03] <gnomefreak> kyo: also you can try sudo apt-get -f install
[02:03] <kyo> ok
[02:03] <Adri2000> kyo: maybe you need universe/multiverse repos
[02:03] <nuxil> brenner,  gnome-control-center
[02:03] <nuxil>  ??
[02:03] <kyo> Hmm I think I alrightly did that
[02:03] <kyo> let me double check
[02:03] <nuxil> yea i'll try kubuntu
[02:04] <brenner> nuxil: you running ubuntu with kde?  or straight kubuntu?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> kyo: make sure its not the backports repo
[02:04] <nuxil> brenner ubuntu with kde
[02:04] <brenner> nuxil: the binary is 'gnome-volume-properties'
[02:04] <nuxil> i didnt know about kubuntu when i installed it
[02:04] <brenner> nuxil: but that might not disable it in kde.
[02:05] <brenner> nuxil: yeah. #kubuntu's your best bet
[02:05] <gnomefreak> nuxil: you should beable to see either disks in menu or kde control panel or whatever its called see if its in one of those
[02:06] <gnomefreak> nuxil: iirc you have both kde and gnome settings in ubuntu+kde
[02:06] <gnomefreak> i havent used kde in a while
[02:06] <kyo> in my synaptic repositiory, it says 'boary' when I updated to breezy ... is that normal? And no, it appear I didn't enable the universe and multiverse yet...
[02:06] <nuxil> gnomefreak :P
[02:07] <gnomefreak> kyo: you need to change all to breezy than sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:07] <brenner> gnomefreak: it might be a gconf setting though, and that is probably irrelevant in kde
[02:07] <gnomefreak> brenner: it should still be in menu
[02:08] <kyo> gnomefreak, I did change all to breezy in the sources.list ...
[02:08] <gnomefreak> just like my flux and xfce menu items are in gnome
[02:08] <gnomefreak> kyo: did you run sudo apt-get update?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> kyo: than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:08] <kyo> as for the list in synaptic -> add it still says horay
[02:08] <kyo> er, no I didn't
[02:09] <tm-30740> Hello, I have an issue modifying a diff.gz for a package, what patch options should I use when generating the diff file. I currently use patch -urP but it cause dpkg-source to complain.
[02:12] <sorush20> shouldn't the repositories be in bittorent? therefore reducing costs?
[02:13] <sorush20> at least the option for them to be in bittorent should be available ?
[02:13] <meenfreem> could someone give me an insight?.... I'm trying to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=hp+wireless+broadcom but when I try to change RadioState in terminal, permission is denied? not sure why... since I give the correct sudo pwd
[02:13] <elkbuntu> sorush20, why dont you post something on the forums about it? that way if people agree the devs can refer to the thread
[02:14] <sorush20> elkbuntu: will do if I have time..
[02:14] <Juhaz> sorush20, probably not, the way repositories work doesn't fit bittorrent very well, lot of small files and nobody is going to be seeding with "apt-get" after they're done installing the package
[02:16] <sorush20> Juhaz, how about the option of creating and apt partition where your linux root partition can find packages there .. this means that on a fresh install not much downloading is done right?
[02:17] <stjepan> hello
[02:17] <h08817> hi
[02:17] <stjepan> why is ubuntu so popular (distrowatch.com). Are people just pressing refresh button to improve ubuntu's "popularity"? :)
[02:17] <h08817> no
[02:17] <elkbuntu> sorush20, that can be done already sort of... just burn your var/cache/apt/archives directory
[02:17] <northie> I can't get vlc, or any other programme for that matter, to stay always-on-top. How would I do this?
[02:18] <stjepan> h08817: why is it so popular then?
[02:18] <elkbuntu> stjepan, because it rocks ;)
[02:18] <h08817> its because it is a good and an easier version of linux for beginners
[02:18] <_jason> northie: right click on the title bar > ``on top''
[02:18] <kent> stjepan: becaus peope like it?
[02:18] <instabin> !composite
[02:18] <ubotu> [composite]  at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.
[02:18] <sdghsgh> northie, did you right click on top bar?
[02:18] <northie> Aah.
[02:18] <northie> Har. I used the programmes own feature.
[02:19] <northie> Thanks.
[02:19] <h08817> stjepan: its a guide to learning linux in a way
[02:19] <kirkt> does ubuntu live cd have the ntpassword reset utility ?
[02:21] <stjepan> I have got ati radeon 9600. is it possible to get fast xcomposite with it?
[02:22] <farous> stjepan: just curious what is xcomposite?
[02:22] <stjepan> farous: cool xorg feature
[02:22] <stjepan> :)
[02:22] <stjepan> transparent windows and cool shadows... very fancy
[02:22] <farous> oh would love to get that :) have same card here
[02:23] <stjepan> heh
[02:23] <stjepan> farous: do you use the fglrx driver?
[02:23] <farous> yap
[02:23] <meenfreem> think i solved that.... no worrie
[02:23] <stjepan> It IS possible to get xcomposite working with fglrx driver, but you will get just a mess on the screen :)
[02:23] <stjepan> you can use new testing xorg radeon driver
[02:24] <farous> stjepan: is it like xgl
[02:24] <elvirolo> hi all
[02:24] <stjepan> from xorg-x11-7
[02:24] <stjepan> farous: whats xgl? :)
[02:24] <apokryphos> farous: not really, but it has many similar affects.
[02:24] <farous> thanx apokryphos
[02:24] <stjepan> farous: it is possible to get xcomposite working with xorg driver, but it will be still quite slow
[02:25] <stjepan> farous: the best option is to use an older radeon card, or just buy nvidia :(
[02:25] <stjepan> !help
[02:25] <farous> too hard to do that now i run it on my notebook stjepan
[02:25] <apokryphos> stjepan: http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:26] <farous> thanx apokryphos was looking hi and low for the link but could not find it
[02:26] <stjepan> farous: then it is hard to get xcomposite working for you (and me) :(
[02:27] <meenfreem> Q: I have a HP laptop dv5000 and got ubuntu installed, but am now struggling with the wlan. On the desktop you see which network is selected... now it only give me the lo option and not the wlan0 option.... I can only get the wlan0 by typing it manually. After typing it manually it does say it has signal, but nothing happens when trying to connect to the internet
[02:27] <farous> stjepan: wait and it will be available. Be patient
[02:27] <kanatohodez>  ?  ...........
[02:27] <stjepan> farous: :D maybe I will be dead before they release a new driver with xcomposite support
[02:28] <ubuntu> isn't he already connected?
[02:28] <ubuntu> maybe its the https
[02:28] <kirkt> does ubuntu live cd have the ntpassword reset utility ?
[02:28] <nomad111> how do u remove kde from ubuntu and all its associated programs
[02:28] <YogSothoth> Hi
[02:28] <YogSothoth> If I'm typing something lile cp dir1/dir2/file1 dir1/dir2/file2 is there a maneer to type where I don't have to repeat dir1/dir2/, or at least a hot key like tab that auto copy the precedent path?
[02:28] <apokryphos> nomad111: remove some vital Qt package or something
[02:28] <farous> stjepan: wait for xgl on dapper
[02:29] <farous> nomad111: did you install it through aptitude
[02:29] <stjepan> I will, tnx for xgl information
[02:29] <h08817> meenfreem: what do u have for your connection? wireless usb or what do u have u have to install the drivers first if you haven't done so already
[02:29] <kanatohodez>  ((  (((
[02:29] <apokryphos> YogSothoth: not really. You could use things like Ctrl+R, or make symlinks etc
[02:29] <apokryphos> kanatohodez: utf8 only please
[02:29] <kanatohodez> sorry
[02:29] <kirkt> can anyone check for a moment ? does ubuntu live cd have the ntpasswd reset utility ?
[02:29] <meenfreem> h08817, I've installed the drivers for the broadcom wlan card.... it's all set up as far as i can see to the linksys router
[02:29] <nomad111> farous, yes i did
[02:30] <farous> nomad111: than aptitude will take care of that for you
[02:30] <h08817> meenfreem: how did u do it did u use ndiswrapper?
[02:30] <nomad111> wat do u mean wat do i do
[02:30] <ompaul> kirkt, if the live CD does not have it it is trivial if you have a network connection to install it on the live system as long as you have ... enough ram
[02:30] <farous> nomad111: just sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop or whaterver meta package you used
[02:30] <meenfreem> h08817, yes, i followed this howto from the forums...
[02:31] <kirkt> i see ompaul
[02:31] <h08817> from forums well maybe you should get the actual article
[02:31] <guerra> I cant remember the nick of whoever helped me, thanks a lot!
[02:31] <guerra> it worked
[02:31] <h08817> maybe u forgot to make it startup when your machine starts
[02:31] <meenfreem> h08817, I'm not sure if it renamed the radiostate stuff
[02:31] <h08817> well undo it redo it and reboot
[02:31] <farous> nomad111: aptitude have a record of the packages that are automatically installed so when you remove a package it removes the packages that were automtically installed with it
[02:31] <kirkt> ompaul how do i search and install it on ubuntu ? does it have a program that manages installations ?
[02:31] <h08817> !ndiswrapper
[02:31] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:32] <meenfreem> h08817, make it startup? I had to run the modprobe command in order to 'see' the wlan
[02:32] <h08817> yes well just try it i have had that problem before
[02:32] <Snorkel> i have also a wireless broadcom in my HP Pavilion laptop and works great with ndiswrapper and Ubuntu
[02:32] <ompaul> kirkt, it does do you know the actual application name? the  synaptic package manager is the tool but it more than likely would be better if you gave me such a tools real name - I know they exist
[02:33] <bungle> !dapper
[02:33] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bungle
[02:33] <nomad111> farous, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:33] <nomad111> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:33] <meenfreem> Snorkel, how did you manage to get it to run? h08817 I'll undo the whole thing and redo it... undoing it? is uninstalling ndiswrapper enough for that?
[02:33] <Kalidarn> hmm im having trouble with "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts" because theyre apparently timing out.
[02:33] <farous> nomad111: close synaptic
[02:33] <Kalidarn> anyone else able to install this package?
[02:33] <farous> nomad111: or the update manager if it is opened
[02:34] <nomad111> ah k
[02:34] <elvirolo> i installed breezy on my mother laptop, and got gnomad2 in order for her to transfer files from/to her creative zen mp3 player but there seems to be a problem with the user rights (for accessing usb devices) ... is there are usb group or something ?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> its a weird package actually
[02:34] <ompaul> kirkt, I have found it
[02:34] <h08817> Kalidarn: did u check to see if it is in synaptic?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> it is.
[02:34] <Kalidarn> ;) im doing it through apt-get.
[02:34] <_jason> Kalidarn: timing out how? contacting the server?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> and it is there.
[02:34] <Kalidarn> its complicated ill paste u the segment
[02:34] <nomad111> farous, that only removed the file kubuntu-desktop not all the other associated software with it
[02:34] <elvirolo> ideas anyone?
[02:34] <Kalidarn> because it goes to sourceforge
[02:34] <Kalidarn> it seems
[02:34] <h08817> Kalidarn: well than just do it in synaptic
[02:35] <elvirolo> it work under the root account
[02:35] <Kalidarn> and its from the official ubuntu repo
[02:35] <Kalidarn> it is somehow redirected to some files on sourceforge.
[02:35] <ompaul> kirkt, it is called chntpw -- you should download this do the desktop from some repository http://archives.ubuntu.com/ and search for multiverse and the package
[02:35] <farous> nomad111: did you play with aptitude defaults? do you remember exactly how you installed kubuntu
[02:35] <elvirolo> please?
[02:36] <nomad111> yep
[02:36] <nomad111> one sec
[02:36] <h08817> meenfreem: don't uninstall ndiswrapper itself
[02:36] <nomad111> farous, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <ompaul> kirkt, it may damage data read this ->>  http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm <-- your mileage may vary
[02:36] <farous> ompaul why not just use the find command with ubotu
[02:36] <Snorkel> I have installed ndiswrapper-utils from Synaptic. sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf  / sudo ndiswrapper -k wlan0 and afterwards setting up the wireless settings via the network icon (upper taskbar at the right). I thought i also did sudo ndiswrapper -m\
[02:36] <ompaul> farous, because it is not installed by default
[02:36] <farous> nomad111: you did not use aptitude you used apt-get
[02:36] <ompaul> farous, its in multiverse
[02:37] <monzie> aptitude sucks
[02:37] <_jason> I don't see any heart, I just see parentheses and a line.  guess I'm used to <3 like elkbuntu
[02:37] <nomad111> hmm so wat to do now
[02:37] <ompaul> monzie, your just misunderstanding it :)
[02:37] <meenfreem> h08817, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=broadcom+chipset+ndiswrapper+howto could i use that 'removal bit' on top of the page?
[02:37] <farous> ompaul hmm ok though i wounder if he can find it
[02:37] <farous> monzie it is just a tool you need to use it wisely :)
[02:38] <nomad111> farous, is there any solution
[02:38] <meenfreem> h08817, cos i just tried the first line... and i got this: Fatal: module bcmwl5 not found
[02:38] <ompaul> farous, its a live cd if he has issues he can come here and someone will point to a url and how to dpkg -i it etc
[02:38] <farous> nomad111: you need to remove them one by one. or search for the most comman package and remove it
[02:38] <farous> libqt3 for example
[02:38] <h08817> meenfreem: once in the terminal give the command ndiswrapper and let it tell u its commands
[02:38] <Toma-> anyone know how to make custom usplash images?
[02:38] <kyo> " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" <-- what is the bash line to kill that process? my synaptic is closed.
[02:38] <h08817> meenfreem: it will tell you what command to use to remove it
[02:38] <farous> ok ompaul :)
[02:39] <kent> kyo run "ps aux|grep synaptic"  s see if its still running.
[02:39] <kyo> kent, I think so
[02:39] <kyo> but I closed it ...
[02:39] <meenfreem> h08817, thanks... no more driers installed for it
[02:39] <kyo> I was apt-get but I forced quit
[02:40] <h08817> ok
[02:40] <kyo> so I think that is the problem, not synpatic itself
[02:40] <meenfreem> h08817, i'll reboot it now and run that howto again
[02:40] <h08817> now get that tutorial off the site and follow it step by step
[02:40] <h08817> ok
[02:40] <YogSothoth> apokryphos, CTRL+R ?
[02:40] <meenfreem> h08817, thanks a bunch :D
[02:41] <h08817> sure
[02:41] <kyo> well kent any idea?
[02:42] <JLB> I'm new on irc and on installing Ubuntu (>10 years Linux console experience).
[02:42] <brenner> wow
[02:42] <kyo> ;-)
[02:43] <kent> kyo: you ran apt-get before?  Have you checked for any running apt, dpkg or synaptic process?  Really you *must* check that first.  If you dont see anything, perhaps a reboot might help. (if you dont mind rebooting)
[02:43] <JLB> Has anybody a clue why the install processof Ubuntu Breeze does not continue after starting - as required - the user?
[02:43] <kyo> kent, yeah I ran the apt-get before then I force quit (ctrl x)
[02:43] <klippo> question. i did apt-get upgrade. and my window-border changed color
[02:43] <klippo> ??
[02:44] <JLB> I did restart several times. I seems it doesn't mount the CD when it restarts. However manually mounting does not help.
[02:44] <brenner> JLB: er, you boot off the install cd, you don't mount it
[02:44] <kyo> bah, I'll do a reboot
[02:45] <noaXess> anybody here uses exim mta? i know there is a exim channel.. but it's really silent there
[02:45] <JLB> What? It explicitly says to remove the boorCD before restarting!
[02:45] <kent> kyo but have you made sure its not running in the background?  either running "ps aux| grep apt"  "ps aux | grep dpkg"  in a terminal (or by running the tool for it in gnome (the program that lists running programs etc..).  Becaus the message you get is often there when you have a program running using the files.  If no program is running, then a reboot will probably fix it (deleting the lock-file).
[02:46] <brenner> JLB: ohhhh, so the install went cleanly, you removed cd, restarted and it fails ... where exactly?
[02:46] <kirkt> thanks ompaul
[02:47] <ompaul> kirkt, did it work?
[02:47] <h08817> !fonts
[02:47] <ubotu> [fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[02:47] <JLB> I looked and apt-get is running trying to install xresprobe but it is trying for several hours(it's just a test machine)
[02:49] <MatyasZA> I got network traffic accounting to work let me know if you need help
[02:49] <meenfreem> h08817, after doing that RadioState bit.... i got a bash: permission denied message... is that somethign to worry about :S
[02:50] <cybergypsy> is anyone else having trouble with security.ubuntu.com ?
[02:50] <guerra> How do i start the x on 2 terminals at the same time,? is that possible?
[02:50] <pitti> cybergypsy: yes, it's out of date, we are working on it
[02:50] <h08817> meenfreem: use sudo and u won't have to worry about it
[02:50] <cybergypsy> *phew*
[02:50] <pitti> cybergypsy: archive.ubuntu.com has all updates
[02:50] <cybergypsy> thanks pitti
[02:50] <h08817> meenfreem: yes because it might be stopping u from doing something
[02:50] <meenfreem> h08817, i did... still got that message. we'll see if it worked in a sec
[02:51] <h08817> meenfreem: what command are you giving that gives you that message?
[02:52] <meenfreem> h08817, you've seen the install instructions right? after i type done and hit enter, it does tons of renaming, than in the end (i think) it gives me a bash: blahblah permission denied message.... but upon rebooting it did think a while about the network config
[02:53] <h08817> i don't recall the renaming
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/bcmwl5.inf
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[02:53] <meenfreem> for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[02:53] <meenfreem> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[02:53] <meenfreem> done
[02:53] <meenfreem> hat bit :D
[02:53] <meenfreem> but upon reboot it did see the wlan... am now setting up the key etc for the linksys router
[02:54] <stjepan> when will be ubuntu dapper released? what month?
[02:54] <meenfreem> april 20th?
[02:54] <Kalidarn> when it is
[02:54] <Kalidarn> and next month isnt april
[02:54] <Kalidarn> is it
[02:55] <Kalidarn> oh my mistake
[02:55] <Kalidarn> i thought you said 'next month'
[02:55] <Kalidarn> rather than what month lol
[02:55] <Kalidarn> im tired.
[02:55] <JLB> brenner: do you have a clue how to proced?
[02:55] <cablop> hello anybody
[02:55] <h08817> meenfreem: i never used the cat command to do that before
[02:55] <stjepan> meenfreem: it will be released on april 20th?
[02:55] <nathanj> http://www.deviantart.com/view/28325729/
[02:56] <cablop> i need some help, do you know how to configure the x-session-mannager?
[02:56] <nathanj> any idea what font is in the menu in that pic
[02:56] <meenfreem> h08817, how would you do it then? there was talk in the thread about doing it manually
[02:56] <manty> Toma-: of what exactly?
[02:57] <Toma-> beer+vodka
[02:57] <Toma-> :D
[02:57] <manty> ahh...boring!
[02:57] <manty> :)
[02:57] <bungle> !sources list
[02:57] <ubotu> bungle: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:57] <cablop> hello Toma, do you remember me? now i discovered the error, i reinstalled ubuntu, just installed amsn and my system was damaged again
[02:57] <brenner> JLB: to be honest, no, not really.  is it still running, or have you rebooted yet?
[02:57] <Toma-> cablop, wow.. yeh..
[02:57] <h08817> meenfreem: thats why i told u to forget about the thread and get the article itself
[02:58] <brenner> ubotu: tell bungle about repos
[02:58] <Toma-> cablop, thats weird.
[02:58] <nathanj> http://www.deviantart.com/view/28325729/ - anyone got any idea what font is being used in the menu etc?
[02:58] <cablop> really wird
[02:58] <cablop> *weird
[02:58] <h08817> meenfreem: the thread is just a recap from someone having issues with it
[02:58] <meenfreem> h08817, the ndiswrapper article... I'll read it through right now.
[02:58] <JLB> No it is still running. Of course I can kill it but I don't know the consequences for the install process.
[02:58] <cablop> and i don't want to udse the amsn included in ubuntu repositories, becuse its really ugly
[02:59] <Toma-> cablop, but, does the one in the repos work?
[02:59] <cablop> I only do two changes, instlling the AMSN and select ALSA in my multimedia systems
[03:00] <h08817> meenfreem: read this part 2.2.2. Command line instructions
[03:00] <cablop> I don't know
[03:00] <h08817> meenfreem: and so on
[03:00] <cablop> i't worked before
[03:00] <cablop> amsn works
[03:00] <cablop> but last edition damaged my system
[03:00] <meenfreem> h08817, thanks again...
[03:00] <brenner> JLB: breakage probably....but i don't see the benefit of leaving it ... being stuck at one point for several hours is not a good sign
[03:00] <stjepan> when was nathanj: I think it is bitstream vera sans
[03:00] <Toma-> cablop, how are you installing it?
[03:00] <h08817> meenfreem: well were not done yet
[03:01] <cablop> mmm
[03:01] <tatters> when I setup my wpa on Ubuntu all I had to do was add my pre shared to network/interfaces and that was it
[03:01] <meenfreem> h08817, true... :D
[03:02] <cablop> I downloaded amsn-0.95-3.ubuntu.deb from amsn website, then installed it using "dpkg -i amsn..."  and then system said me there's a broken package, then I opened the synaptic package and clicked fix broken packages
[03:02] <JLB> brenner: what do you think? I removed the damn thng and it begins to install!!
[03:02] <cablop> so synaptic installed tcltls and configure it, and after cinfigure amsn
[03:02] <brenner> JLB: it's working?  what did you remove?
[03:03] <tatters> yah remove cd halfway thorugh then reboot
[03:03] <Toma-> cablop, was that the only broken package?
[03:04] <cablop> yes the only one
[03:04] <stjepan> will ubuntu dapper come with stable xorg 7?
[03:04] <cablop> then i opened amsn
[03:04] <JLB> tatters; that's what I did and thn the damn thing wouldn't install the rest. Now it's downloading 948 files and I hoep it will install them.
[03:04] <guerra> guys, if im running gnome on terminal 7, is there a way to run another graphical interface on another terminal at the same time?
[03:04] <JLB> How will newbies react??
[03:04] <Toma-> stjepan, no idea. i would say so tho. its got xorg 7.0 in it already, but its still fragile.
[03:04] <cablop> i go to system, preferences, and selected multimedia system selector, and selected
[03:04] <tatters> well speaking as a noob badly :)
[03:04] <cablop> alsa in both boxes
[03:05] <Toma-> guerra, yep
[03:05] <meenfreem> h08817, okay... went through the steps, but no network yet...
[03:05] <cablop> then go back to amsn clic on preferences and changed "play $sound" option to "aplay $sound"
[03:05] <mjr> guerra, sure; just Applications/System tools/New login (or something like that)
[03:05] <meenfreem> h08817, maybe remove the driver again and redo it?
[03:05] <brenner> JLB: to be fair, it's the first time i've heard of that problem
[03:05] <cablop> nothing more, just created a new user account and restarted system
[03:05] <h08817> doing it a million times shouldn't fix it
[03:05] <tatters> out of 20 installation in past 2 weeks only 3 have completay suceeded without errors
[03:05] <cablop> my system was reinstalled this night
[03:06] <h08817> but u did get weird errors and stuff
[03:06] <farous> cablop: does amsn now support voice chat ?
[03:06] <Toma-> cablop, and what is the exact error that happens?
[03:06] <h08817> so maybe you should do it directly from teh top from the article
[03:06] <Toma-> farous, not yet. its got webcam support tho
[03:06] <cablop> no, just pulum sound when somebody talk to us
[03:06] <guerra> oh awesome guys, it was so obvious lol
[03:06] <guerra> thanks
[03:06] <cablop> the error?
[03:06] <Toma-> cablop, well what the problem?
[03:07] <farous> Toma-: thanx i know that but am waiting for the voice
[03:07] <JLB> guys I have to go. Thanks for the info. I hope the system wil install automagically the rest.
[03:07] <Toma-> farous, ok :) try skype
[03:07] <farous> Toma-: using it now :)
[03:07] <Toma-> hehe :D
[03:07] <cablop> after restarting the system, i started my session, and go to menus: applications->system tools->new logon screen (i don't know the true name in english) looking for a new session
[03:07] <brenner> JLB: good luck
[03:07] <h08817> meenfreem: i had a lot of trouble installing mine as well
[03:07] <Toma-> cablop, so?
[03:08] <h08817> of course you have to make sure you have the same workgroup and all setup that you have on the pc with the router
[03:08] <cablop> but, it did'nt work and said me "there were errors, maybe X server is not configured"
[03:08] <meenfreem> h08817, start from scratch. maybe uninstall the ndiswrapper utils and get the latest one from the repository
[03:08] <cablop> but x server is configured
[03:08] <h08817> that would be a good idea
[03:08] <cablop> i'm using gnome now, and i can start gedit, nautilus, anything
[03:09] <Toma-> cablop, so you cant run 2 X servers?
[03:09] <cablop> ok, then i try to fix the problem and i think i need to read the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to fix it, i typed "$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:09] <cablop> but it doesn't work, because gedit is a graphical application and i'm trying to start it as a differtent user
[03:09] <cablop> no i can't
[03:10] <cablop> and all the warnings a nd errors related was shown as session manager errors or warnings
[03:11] <cablop> but the other weird issue is... if i type "sudo konquest" a qt based game, it opens
[03:11] <cablop> if i type "sudo gimp" it opens!!!
[03:11] <Toma-> cablop, thats because konquest is a qt-based game.
[03:11] <cablop> but "sudo nautilus" or "sudo gedit" don't
[03:11] <cablop> yes
[03:11] <cablop> wait me a minutte
[03:11] <Toma-> cablop, dont run apps with sudo :( it can break stuff
[03:12] <damo21> i just installed fresh ubuntu 5.10.... my usb flash wont automount why?
[03:13] <damo21> why does gnome-volume-manager try to mount /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1
[03:13] <Toma-> damo21, checked your fstab?
[03:14] <damo21> yeah there were no entries for usb flash
[03:14] <cablop> i'm back
[03:14] <brenner> checked dmesg | tail?
[03:14] <damo21> it works manually, but i thought ubuntu does it nicely auto
[03:14] <Toma-> damo21, it should do
[03:14] <cablop> ok, but before restartiong my system sudo gedit worked and sudo nautilus worked
[03:15] <cablop> ok i know that i need to use gksudo instead
[03:15] <Toma-> cablop, yep.
[03:15] <damo21> i know the problem but i dont know how to fix it
[03:15] <cablop> but, i was running my system time before, and i was running it by about three months using sudo gedit and sudo nautilus and nothing wrong ocurred
[03:16] <cablop> then i installed amsn, and my system become damaged
[03:16] <damo21> its trying to mount /dev/sda which is the whole device, not the start of the partition at /dev/sda1
[03:16] <brenner> what's the difference?  isn't gksudo just a frontend?
[03:16] <rockbar> hey
[03:16] <rockbar> can anyone help me?
[03:16] <cablop> i think gksudo provides more x graphic securuty
[03:16] <damo21> theres a bug with gnome-volume-manager
[03:16] <brenner> !helpme
[03:16] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:17] <cablop> so, this is the 4th time i instlla my linux, and cheking amsn this is the responsible of the damage
[03:17] <Toma-> cablop, well, dont install it.
[03:18] <brenner> how *are* you installing it?  through the official repo?
[03:18] <cablop> why, i think it changed something in my x session manager, where the x session manager files are placed? i can edit them to rescue my system
[03:18] <damo21> how can i reset the removable media settings?
[03:18] <cablop> i uninstalled it now
[03:18] <cablop> but system rmeain damaged
[03:18] <Toma-> cablop, once you re-install, get the tarball version of it make it yourself.
[03:18] <cablop> *remain
[03:18] <Toma-> cablop, youre doing something weird. that package is fine.
[03:18] <rockbar> have a problem when i am install ubuntu :Unable to install selected kernel: An error was returned trying to install the kernen into the target system // Kernelpackage: 'linux-386' //check /target/va/log/bootstrap.log for the details
[03:19] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[03:19] <damo21> after i edited fstab, my usb wouldnt automount, how do i reset it?
[03:19] <cablop> mmm, the tarball version, ok, but if the amsn or tclstls configures x session management again?
[03:19] <farous> cablop: it is good practice not to use sudo nautilus so often
[03:19] <rockbar> so can help me? ;=
[03:19] <rockbar> ;)
[03:19] <cablop> i'm seriously thinking in use kames instead
[03:19] <cablop> yes, i know
[03:19] <farous> just change whatever dir owner ship or mode
[03:19] <cablop> , but i can use gksudo nautilus instead?
[03:19] <Toma-> cablop, nothing in the amsn package touches X management. I know. i made the package.
[03:20] <rockbar> hm,..
[03:20] <tatters> Y is it bad practice to use suo nautilus?
[03:20] <cablop> then, who touched my x session manager?
[03:20] <tatters> whats the problem with doing tha?
[03:20] <Toma-> cablop, you probably did with all your sudo action
[03:20] <farous> nothing if you are running as regular user
[03:20] <damo21> because nautilus controls the desktop, it mucks up default settings
[03:20] <rockbar> read my prob pls :( the ppl in ubuntu de cant help me
[03:20] <farous> cablop: do you have a program that control your vedio card
[03:20] <Toma-> sudo can add config files with root ownership
[03:21] <cablop> except console commands
[03:21] <cablop> like sudo bash
[03:21] <Kalidarn> hehe thats why i switched to kubuntu, so i could make use of konquror best FM ever,
[03:21] <cablop> video card? the ubuntu default driver
[03:21] <tatters> oh you mean in case some else gains physical access not remote access
[03:21] <brenner> rockbar: bad cd maybe?
[03:21] <Toma-> Kalidarn, amen.
[03:21] <Kalidarn> atleast for a out-of-the-box person like me
[03:21] <cablop> does sound system touches session manager?
[03:21] <rockbar> brenner i dont think so..
[03:21] <Kalidarn> nautillus didn't work in alot of places, whereas konquror works everywhere, in everyway.
[03:21] <rockbar> the problem was at the kubuntu installation too..
[03:22] <brenner> rockbar: have you hit the forum yet?
[03:22] <damo21> sudo nautilus gave me a lot of trouble because it changed ownership of important setting files to root
[03:22] <Kalidarn> kind of like the theorized internet explorer
[03:22] <rockbar> brenner no..
[03:22] <rockbar> first time linux
[03:22] <farous> cablop: make a new user and login through his account might be you have a local prob in your dir
[03:22] <Kalidarn> rockbar: not talking about you
[03:22] <Kalidarn> im talking about cablop
[03:22] <cablop> i only use sudo nautilus or gksudo nautilus, when i need to control reoot files, not for common tasks
[03:22] <farous> as Toma- this might be due to using sudo too often you might have created a file that you do not have permission to use
[03:23] <rockbar> hm?
[03:23] <cablop> i have a new account, but i cant start a new session
[03:24] <damo21> i wish someone can help, automounting is broken
[03:24] <cablop> i must close current one, and start with the other user, now, my gnome doesn't support two users in graphic mode at the same time
[03:24] <Toma-> !automount
[03:24] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Toma-
[03:24] <Kalidarn> damo21: should have made a backup
[03:24] <Kalidarn> damo21: that's why it says to ;P
[03:24] <rockbar> brenner can help me :P
[03:24] <farous> cablop: you can just use the gdmflexiserver
[03:24] <cablop> faorus, please explain me more about  "login through his account might be you have a local prob in your dir"
[03:24] <brenner> rockbar: try searching ubuntuforums.org
[03:24] <farous> in a terminal typ gdmflexiserver -nl
[03:24] <damo21> the original fstab had nothing... just hdd and fdd
[03:25] <cablop> yes, i cant use the gdmflexiserver!!!
[03:25] <damo21> plus a proc
[03:25] <Kalidarn> damo21: readd them then
[03:25] <cablop> this is the problem, i'm looking at system monitor, but gdmflexiserver is sleeping
[03:25] <Kalidarn> if u changed your fstab back to its original it should work.
[03:25] <Kalidarn> using KDE/Gnome?
[03:25] <damo21> Gnome
[03:25] <cablop> when it wakes up, it commit error
[03:25] <Kalidarn> hmm
[03:25] <Kalidarn> i always had problems with my USB floppy drive in gnome
[03:25] <cablop> i cant use gdmflexiserver
[03:26] <Kalidarn> samsung one
[03:26] <farous> cablop: just make a new account and login through it and try running things around
[03:26] <Kalidarn> used to create 32 floppy drives on the desktop
[03:26] <Kalidarn> and keep mounting them lol
[03:26] <Kalidarn> over and over and over again
[03:26] <cablop> i tryied it yesterday, no work
[03:26] <damo21> it creates the correct udev nodes and everything, but it tries to mount /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1
[03:26] <Kalidarn> was quite funny to watch my desktop with floppy drives lol
[03:26] <cablop> i have two accounts here
[03:26] <cablop> mine, cablop, and sister, sakura
[03:26] <farous> cablop: ok just make a new account and loging through it
[03:27] <cablop> i clic on new logon screen, but new logon screen reportme an error
[03:27] <farous> jsut see if your probs are sys wide or not
[03:27] <brenner> Kalidarn: you bothered to buy a usb floppy drive?
[03:27] <cablop> "There were errors, maybe x server it's not well configured"
[03:27] <macozz> Hi!
[03:27] <cablop> (i'm translating from spanish)
[03:27] <Kalidarn> brenner: it has memory stick imputs
[03:27] <Kalidarn> ie MMC/SD/etc
[03:27] <Kalidarn> as well.
[03:27] <damo21> mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /media/flash works fine
[03:27] <brenner> ah
[03:27] <Kalidarn> plus it was for a laptop that didn't have one
[03:28] <cablop> farous, how can i see my probs?
[03:28] <Kalidarn> useful for boot floppies
[03:28] <damo21> but i want to know where are the config files for gnome-volume-manager
[03:28] <macozz> I need help with keybord variants in Kubuntu... KDE3.5.1 Any one can help?
[03:28] <cablop> farous, do you mean, close this session, after creating a new one, start with the new one, and check if it works?
[03:28] <farous> cablop: you have to trace it down
[03:29] <cablop> well, how can i trace them? first, i don't now what probs are
[03:29] <farous> cablop: use admin>syst>users> and create a new user
[03:29] <cablop> yes, i created one
[03:29] <farous> ok log out from gnome and login with the new user name
[03:30] <fulldisclosure> hi
[03:30] <fulldisclosure> I installed xserver-xgl and I can enter X
[03:30] <cablop> farous i created one
[03:30] <fulldisclosure> indeed I have installed xserver-xorg but dpkg-reconfigure tell me that is not installed
[03:31] <brenner> damo21: don't know if this would work, but maybe reconfigure the package?
[03:31] <farous> cablop: ok logout and login from the new user account
[03:31] <cablop> ok, i'll be back
[03:31] <Goshawk> what about compiz on amd64?
[03:31] <fulldisclosure> someone installed xserver-xgl in dapper?
[03:31] <Goshawk> fulldisclosure: me
[03:31] <Toma-> fulldisclosure, no dapper support here sorry
[03:32] <mzuverink> Why does Open Office 2 not sorrect spelling, do I need to install dictionaries myself?
[03:32] <farous> mzuverink: look at writing aids and select your lang then make sure autocorrect is on
[03:33] <rockbar> so i post at the forum..
[03:33] <macozz> I cannot swith from different keybord layouts in KDE because no layout are loaded... how can I get them?
[03:33] <farous> there is a macro file for installing dic if you need them DicOOo-1.5.5.sxw
[03:34] <naor> Can anyone please help me with wireless internet?
[03:34] <tatters> does kubuntu work in the basically same way as ubuntu apart from it graphics
[03:34] <andreas_1> hi
[03:34] <andreas_1> I downloaded the proprietary ATI driver installer from ati.com
[03:34] <naor> I can't make it work with WPA - but it's working perfectly without a password
[03:34] <mzuverink> farous: that did not work
[03:34] <andreas_1> but when it pops up the dialog to choose distro, it's too large for my screen!
[03:34] <farous> mzuverink: which language you need
[03:35] <andreas_1> I seriously can't reach the bottom of it, where the ubuntu options are
[03:35] <mzuverink> US English
[03:35] <andreas_1> how retarded is that
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: hold alt
[03:35] <farous> installed by default
[03:35] <mzuverink> farous:us english
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: and drag
[03:35] <brenner> are you following the wiki link?
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: seveas has a repo available witht the xorg driver
[03:35] <farous> tools>options>writing aids> then set your language and dict there
[03:35] <brenner> andreas_1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:35] <Kalidarn> how do some people have these problems lol, im reasonably new and i never had any troubles lol not like redhat eeeep!
[03:36] <tatters> its a pain andreas I sometimes have same problem option at bottom and form to large to grab to move or reize
[03:36] <rockbar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131353
[03:36] <Kalidarn> tatters: what size screen do you have?
[03:37] <tatters> 800x600
[03:37] <brenner> tatters: hold alt
[03:37] <Kalidarn> so its on a portege i take it? or somethijnng like that
[03:37] <brenner> and you can drag the window from anywhere you click
[03:37] <naor> has anyone used wpa_supplicant?
[03:37] <Kalidarn> yeh try that
[03:37] <Kalidarn> ;P
[03:38] <brenner> Kalidarn: portege?
[03:38] <Kalidarn> toshiba portege
[03:38] <Kalidarn> theyre the tiny ones
[03:38] <MatyasZA> Hi i would like to low level format my usb stick, how can i do it?
[03:38] <tatters> hey thnx for that tp  brenner
[03:38] <Kalidarn> lol low level format a usb stick why?
[03:38] <sdghsgh> anyone got Xgl with fglrx working here?
[03:39] <brenner> what FS do the sticks use anyway?
[03:39] <mzuverink> Farous: thats what I figured, but it is not working either in autocorrecct or when I manually run spell check, I installed everything properly
[03:39] <Kalidarn> FAT or FAT32
[03:39] <brenner> or ist that a stupid question?
[03:39] <trappist> Kalidarn: protege?
[03:39] <MatyasZA> I just wanna write Fat32
[03:39] <Kalidarn> trappist: read with your eyes
[03:39] <MatyasZA> basically its write protected
[03:39] <farous> mzuverink: hmm do you have myspell installed that is what openoffice uses for spellcheck
[03:39] <brenner> trappist: toshiba portege.  they're the tiny ones
[03:39] <brenner> :P
[03:39] <Kalidarn> seriously.
[03:39] <Kalidarn> he must be blind
[03:39] <MatyasZA> so i figure if i low level format it will work again
[03:39] <farous> and i think it is not installed by default on ubuntu
[03:40] <andreas_1> well brenner that's the one I'm following, and as I said, the ati install dialog is too big for my display :)
[03:40] <andreas_1> which is 1280x800
[03:40] <andreas_1> it's too tall
[03:40] <mzuverink> farous: I will check
[03:40] <andreas_1> so I can't reach the bottom of it, where the ubuntu options are
[03:40] <Kalidarn> lol write protected.
[03:40] <Kalidarn> well un write protected.
[03:40] <brenner> andreas_1: like i said, hold alt!
[03:40] <MatyasZA> there is no buttom on it
[03:40] <tatters> andread did u see breener tip for moving the form?
[03:40] <andreas_1> hold alt?
[03:40] <brenner> andreas_1:  and you can then drag the window from anywhere you click
[03:40] <mod^> how do I resize swap partition? I have a webserver, without X.org or others.
[03:40] <MatyasZA> the customer just brought it to me and now she wants me to format it
[03:40] <Kalidarn> MatyasZA: no button?
[03:41] <MatyasZA> Kalidarn: none
[03:41] <andreas_1> aha!!
[03:41] <andreas_1> thanks :)
[03:41] <andreas_1> I didn't know that was possible :)
[03:41] <brenner> heh
[03:41] <Kalidarn> lol MatyasZA is it a MP3 one?
[03:41] <mzuverink> farous: that was not installed, installing it now, hopefully that will solve the problem
[03:41] <tatters> lol nor did I
[03:41] <brenner> andreas_1: i agree though.  stupid interface
[03:41] <MatyasZA> Kalidarn: its a LG 256MB usb 2.0 flash drive
[03:41] <brenner> i wonder how many people give up at that step
[03:41] <andreas_1> yes
[03:41] <Kalidarn> ill take this to private ;)
[03:41] <farous> mzuverink: i will be here for couple of min so keep me posted
[03:41] <brenner> someone should amend the wiki
[03:41] <farous> mzuverink: check if you have the thesuars too
[03:42] <mzuverink> farous: that worked, you would think that that would be a dependency
[03:42] <farous> ya starange heh. I tried running it with aspell but did not work
[03:43] <farous> run-with-aspell oowriter2 but i had to install myspell at the end
[03:43] <mzuverink> farous: whats the thesuars package named?
[03:43] <Goshawk> is there somebody with Xgl + compiz on amd64?
[03:44] <TotalNewb> Has anyone ever run into a problem where the Sudo root user won't work? I try and open any application where I should be running as Root and it fails to log in root? I only have one user so the password can't be wrong..??
[03:44] <farous> mzuverink: go to open office websit and download this file a macro file for installing dic if you need them DicOOo-1.5.5.sxw. It is not installed by default either and will take care of all dic and thesua for you
[03:44] <brenner> mod^: maybe use a partition mgr.  i don't know how safe that would be though
[03:44] <mzuverink> farous:thanks for the help and info
[03:45] <farous> yw :)
[03:45] <farous> am thinking of going to site now to download some presentation templetes my self ;)
[03:45] <kwewu14> how do i get vim to do highlighting for ruby files?
[03:47] <TotalNewb> Am I at the "You reinstall Hoary" stage of disrepair?
[03:48] <brenner> kwewu14: http://rubyforge.org/projects/vim-ruby/
[03:49] <brenner> TotalNewb: sudo prompts for *your* password
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[03:50] <instabin> how do i restart x server
[03:51] <_jason> instabin: ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i can'T mount my cdrom in fstab correctly, for all users. If i've on the second account it said "Only -thefirstacc- can mount /dev/cdrom" or -if i try heck it- "Only root can mount..."
[03:51] <TotalNewb> I was originally given the password password by the guy who tried to set up the laptop. Last night I changed the username and password to 'solo' and 30+coyote. I can log in fine to the system. Firefox and all the normal user level applications work great but when I use any application that asks for a password like synaptic or update it fails to recognize either the new or old password.
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me about the correct config
[03:52] <_jason> TotalNewb: will a command like 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal accept your password?
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i have this @ this time: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   iso9660 utf8,noauto    0       0
[03:52] <TotalNewb> sudo echo hi
[03:52] <TotalNewb> Let me check.
[03:52] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: well mine has usr as an option as well (it's how it got setup, I don't know that much about it)
[03:53] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: s/usr/user
[03:53] <MetaMorfoziS> s?
[03:54] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: substitute 'usr' with 'user', I made a typo
[03:54] <sakura> hello again
[03:54] <sakura> i was cablop, but now im using another account
[03:55] <TotalNewb> Now its not even asking for a password when I use Sudo. I'm so confused.
[03:55] <sakura> oh no, my helper it's not here
[03:55] <sakura> TotalNewb how you used sudo?
[03:56] <wassha> hello fellas
[03:56] <brenner> TotalNewb: there's a time period b/n de-activation of rights
[03:56] <sakura> sudo ask for a password first time, from that time and on it doen't need to ask again
[03:56] <sakura> farous
[03:56] <sakura> :()
[03:56] <TotalNewb> How long is that time period?
[03:57] <trappist> 15 minutes
[03:57] <brenner> not sure :)
[03:57] <trappist> by default
[03:57] <wassha> how can i add exterial source to synaptic gui for apt ?
[03:57] <brenner> there you go :)
[03:57] <sakura> while you have the command line window openned
[03:57] <_jason> TotalNewb: is this the account you created during install?  If so, paste the output of the command 'groups'
[03:58] <sakura> But if you don't want to be asked for a password when using sudo, just add your user to sudo group
[03:58] <brenner> ubotu: tell wassha about repos
[03:58] <MetaMorfoziS> "mount: Only root can mount /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom"
[03:58] <TotalNewb> There is a sudo group? Cool.
[03:58] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need in fstab to disable this?
[03:58] <avalost> anyone know when the new release will be out?
[03:59] <avalost> roughly
[03:59] <_jason> MetaMorfoziS: I believe it's the 'user' option
[03:59] <trappist> sakura: I don't remember there being a NOPASSWD option in the default sudoers file for a sudo group
[03:59] <sakura> yes
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> i have use
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> user
[03:59] <trappist> avalost: april 16 I believe is the date
[03:59] <TotalNewb> Oh, and last night I did uninstall ubuntu-desktop. Do you think that could have done it?
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> if i delete it it said only meta can mount...
[03:59] <sakura> but just add the user to this group and check
[03:59] <MetaMorfoziS> meta is the firsth account
[03:59] <avalost> thanks trappist
[03:59] <avalost> trappist, no more mandrake/mandriva for you?
[03:59] <sakura> i need a help
[03:59] <trappist> TotalNewb: ubuntu-desktop does nothing but depend on a slew of other packages.  uninstalling it doesn't really do anything.
[04:00] <MetaMorfoziS> oh sorry, at this time i'm havent user and get ^^ error
[04:00] <trappist> avalost: I still have a server running it, but I'm looking to replace that too
[04:00] <brenner> TotalNewb: it's just a meta package, only important for upgrade transitions iirc
[04:00] <wassha> i need to add there source of debian packages ( w32codecs)
[04:00] <avalost> trappist, I don't blame you
[04:00] <brenner> wassha: just get the deb file and dpkg -i
[04:00] <brenner> if it's only the one
[04:00] <avalost> I had been running mdk since 8.0.. they really ticked me off and I haven't looked back
[04:01] <TotalNewb> I'll have groups for you in just a moment. Had baby issues.
[04:01] <TotalNewb> groups
[04:01] <trappist> avalost: they're ok, but I decided I like debian, and now I've fallen in love with ubuntu, and I'll probably stay here a while.
[04:01] <avalost> 10.* and LE really turned me off
[04:01] <TotalNewb> also usin the right keyboar helps.
[04:01] <sakura> somebody help me, i'm trying to configure x session manager
[04:01] <sakura> how to do it?
[04:01] <avalost> yeah, ubuntu is pretty slick albeit completely different..
[04:02] <TotalNewb> It replied monti, which is the user name first set up by the guy who did the install.
[04:02] <Scarborough> how can I get mozilla-composer?
[04:03] <brenner> avalost: completely different to debian?  i'm contemplating trying it out (ub was my 1st deb-based distro.
[04:03] <p0windah> Scarborough: no idea, but you might want to try Nvu
[04:03] <Scarborough> p0windah: whats Nvu?
[04:03] <avalost> brenner, no to mandrake..
[04:03] <sakura> i have a problem in session manager, how to fix it?
[04:03] <jhaig> I cannot print from Firefox - it complains that the paper size (iso-a4) is not supported by the printer (but it is).  The printer is on another machine running Debian Sarge, and other machines on the network with Debian don't have this problem, only this one with Ubuntu.  Any idea what may be wrong?
[04:03] <NabZ> hey, whats the diff between ubuntu and Kubuntu
[04:03] <monzie> mozilla-composer  comes with mozilla Scarborough
[04:04] <jhaig> NabZ: The default desktop for Kubuntu is KDE.
[04:04] <sakura> NabZ kubuntu have KDE instead of gnome
[04:04] <Scarborough> monzie what do you mean?
[04:04] <p0windah> Scarborough: html/css editor
[04:04] <avalost> brenner, debian is similar, just not as easy to set up and packages seemed less up to date for stable releases
[04:04] <TotalNewb> NabZ, Kubuntu was designed to run well with KDE I think.
[04:04] <ppo2> hi, rkhunter is complaining about /dev/.initramfs-tools /dev/.udevdb and  /dev/.static is it normal ?
[04:04] <ifxx> hat einer von euch ubuntu mit dem x-win32 zum laufen bekommen?
[04:04] <Scarborough> p0windah: is it n00b-friendly?
[04:04] <sakura> but i preffer gnome, so i use ubuntu
[04:04] <Seveas> ppo2, rkhunter?
[04:04] <NabZ> on ubuntu can i change it to kde?
[04:04] <brenner> avalost: *nod* do you happen to know the default kernel image?
[04:04] <avalost> my frist debian install was a net install, a heap of work to get everything running as I like it
[04:04] <Seveas> ifxx  #ubuntu-de
[04:04] <ppo2> Seveas: rootkit hunter
[04:05] <Seveas> ppo2, it's terribly overzealous
[04:05] <sakura> just instll kde from main section on your ubuntu distro repository
[04:05] <monzie> sudo apt-get install mozilla gives you mozilla composer
[04:05] <avalost> for debian?
[04:05] <Seveas> ppo2, those folders are completely normal
[04:05] <NabZ> ty sakura
[04:05] <bil> salut
[04:05] <monzie> NabZ, the command is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[04:05] <brenner> yep
[04:05] <NabZ> ty monzie :)
[04:05] <TotalNewb> So any one have any ideas what my 'group' thing means?
[04:05] <bil> salut
[04:05] <avalost> brenner, unsure: prolly linux-*-386, i'm guessing
[04:05] <monzie> you are welcom NabZ
[04:05] <sakura> Nabz, monzie, yes, because kubuntu-desktop is the wrapper packge of Kubuntu packages
[04:06] <ppo2> Seveas: ok, thanks, btw security patches will be installed after apt-get upgrade or do i need to put something else?
[04:06] <brenner> avalost: heh, i'm after the * bit in particular, but nvm.  i'll look it up
[04:06] <Seveas> ppo2, if you have the security repos enabled: yes
[04:06] <monzie> ppo2, you have to enable the security repos
[04:06] <NabZ> on kbuntu downloads, whats breezy and whats  dapper? lol
[04:06] <sakura> but if you don't want all the things on kubuntu-desktop, just uninstall them and don't worry about uninstalling kubuntu-desktop
[04:06] <Bader> hi
[04:06] <avalost> yeah, that's prolly best
[04:06] <Drac[Server] > Where is the Ubuntu logo image that is seen during the load before X starts located?
[04:06] <Bader> !wiki bcm43xx
[04:06] <ppo2> Seveas: how to check if i have ? :)
[04:06] <sakura> breeze is the name of current distro
[04:07] <Bader> !wiki broadcom
[04:07] <NabZ> ah and dapper is the old one?
[04:07] <sakura> dapper is the name of future distro planned to be released on april
[04:07] <NabZ> ah
[04:07] <NabZ> cool
[04:07] <monzie> !usplash
[04:07] <ubotu> hmm... usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:07] <Bader> !wiki dapper wiki
[04:07] <wassha> brenner: thanks
[04:07] <Bader> !wiki dapper wifi
[04:07] <NabZ> i tihnk ill get ubuntu and install kde onto it. :)
[04:07] <Seveas> ppo2, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 is the complete set
[04:07] <Seveas> Bader, stop.
[04:07] <zwu> since last dist-upgrade (dapper), my radeon 9600 card fglrx driver does not work now ~~~ anybody meet this problem?
[04:07] <sakura> hoary is the old onebut don't use dapper until become stable,
[04:07] <Bader> Seveas: I stopped.
[04:07] <sakura> dapper now is for testing purpose
[04:07] <Drac[Server] > NabZ, at this point, it is a bad, bad idea to try to run Dapper as a fully functional OS.
[04:07] <Bader> now I can ask my question :)
[04:08] <Bader> How can I enable bcm43xx on dapper ? (because ndiswrapper no longer works) (modprobe bcm43xx does nothing)
[04:08] <NabZ> its fine to install kde onto ubuntu 5.1 yeh?
[04:08] <TotalNewb> I try running users-admin and none of my passwords for root access work. Anyone know how to find out what the root password is?
[04:08] <ppo2> Seveas:ok, thanks
[04:08] <Seveas> !tell TotalNewb about root
[04:08] <Drac[Server] > TotalNewb, by default, it's random. To set one type sudo passwd.
[04:08] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , don't lie
[04:08] <dbernar1_> How come I have no space on my /home partition? I am looking at all the files, including the hidden ones, and there is nothing that could be holding up space.
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, I'm not...
[04:09] <Seveas> yes you are
[04:09] <Seveas> the root password is not random
[04:09] <Seveas> it's locked
[04:09] <dbernar1_> random:)
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > It's locked by way of randomization.
[04:09] <MatyasZA> bye all
[04:09] <Seveas> no
[04:09] <Seveas> it's locked by way of locking
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Well, how else could they "lock" it?
[04:09] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , man passwd
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > I don't know about locking root.
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Oh.
[04:09] <Drac[Server] > Well... regardles, sudo passwd will do the trick
[04:10] <Seveas> no
[04:10] <Drac[Server] > Yes.
[04:10] <Seveas> just sudo
[04:10] <dbernar1_> So what's up with my disk space?
[04:10] <sakura> could anybody help me?
[04:10] <Drac[Server] > I do it all the time.
[04:10] <dbernar1_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:10] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda5             9,7G  8,4G  824M  92% /
[04:10] <dbernar1_> tmpfs                 237M  4,0K  237M   1% /dev/shm
[04:10] <dbernar1_> tmpfs                 237M   13M  225M   6% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile
[04:10] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda6             9,8G  9,7G   96M 100% /home
[04:10] <sakura> i need to reconfigure my x session manager settings
[04:10] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda9              93G   29G   61G  32% /mnt/l
[04:10] <Seveas> why? You don't need a root password on ubuntu
[04:10] <dbernar1_> sorry
[04:10] <TotalNewb> It asks me for a password, which I don't have, before it will let me use any sudo command including sudo passwd.
[04:10] <Drac[Server] > I like having full root functionality, rather than having to type sudo all the time. Leaving a terminal open that has had sudo validated once is just as bad as leaving a root terminal open.
[04:11] <Seveas> TotalNewb, sudo uses YOUR password, read the wikipage ubotu sent you
[04:11] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , set the sudo timeout to 0 
[04:11] <TotalNewb> I only have two passwords ever used on the system and both fail.
[04:11] <sakura> because i want to be again able to run a new user logon screen, to swith between users, and able to run gtk+gnome graphic applications as a different user
[04:11] <TotalNewb> I am putting in my pass, it fails.
[04:11] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, sure, that's one option, but it's not the default. Also, if somebody gets your user password but not your root, root functions are still compromised.
[04:12] <sakura> TotelNewb, if sudo asked you for a password is asking for your users password
[04:12] <TotalNewb> I know, and I put it in, the one I log into my user with, it fails.
[04:12] <sakura> TotalNewb you must have administration privilegies
[04:13] <Seveas> TotalNewb, is the word admin in the output of the command id?
[04:13] <TotalNewb> id
[04:13] <sakura> go to system->Management (Administration)-> and users and groups
[04:13] <monzie> POLL: How many users would like an ubuntu - sister distro (aka Kubuntu) with E17 was default wm and aim = ultmate eye candy?
[04:13] <dbernar1_> In any case, Would you have some advice as to why my HD is full when there is nothing on it?
[04:13] <Seveas> monzie, don't...
[04:13] <sakura> somebody help me!!!
[04:13] <dbernar1_> not nopthing...
[04:13] <dbernar1_> Ah...
[04:13] <sakura> !gdmflexiserver
[04:13] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sakura
[04:13] <dbernar1_> stupid .Trash.
[04:13] <Seveas> sakura, applications  system tools  new login
[04:13] <sakura> !x-session-manager
[04:13] <ubotu> sakura: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:13] <TotalNewb> Nope, uid=1000 gid=1000  groups=1000 (monti)
[04:14] <Seveas> dbernar1_, lol :D
[04:14] <raid> anyone know hot to enable wlan0 device manualy on Kubuntu?
[04:14] <Seveas> raid, ifup wlan0
[04:14] <dbernar1_> Seveas: cause I don't use gnome...
[04:14] <trappist> assuming wlan0 exists
[04:14] <sakura> Seveas i have and error in my gnome configuration, so this program send me errors
[04:14] <monzie> What Seveas ?
[04:14] <Seveas> TotalNewb, then you messed up yourself previously in the users and groups thing...
[04:14] <mikex> how do import email from evolution to thunderbird in ubuntu?
[04:14] <bliss> hello all
[04:14] <dbernar1_> Seveas: funny part is...I've been woprking on this for a while now kinda off-hand...
[04:14] <Seveas> hi bliss
[04:15] <sapo> hi all, anyone have a quick link to some howto or something about installing a serial mouse?
[04:15] <TotalNewb> So reinstall? My friend who owned the laptop tried to install it. Not I.
[04:15] <Seveas> !serial mouse
[04:15] <ubotu> methinks serial mouse is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto
[04:15] <sakura> his program uses some session management donfiguration
[04:15] <sakura> how to fix it?
[04:15] <Seveas> TotalNewb, reboot into recovery mode, and reset either the root password or the user password
[04:15] <dbernar1_> /dev/hda6             9,8G  788M  9,0G   8% /home
[04:15] <dbernar1_> Yay.
[04:15] <Seveas> and ask that friend of yours not te mess up again
[04:16] <raid> Seveas: I get Ignoring unknow interface wlan0=wlan0
[04:16] <TotalNewb> Never played with recovery mode. Then again I never broke my system :P
[04:16] <raid> Seveas: what does it mean?
[04:16] <Seveas> raid, man ifconfig, man iwnconfig, man 5 interfaces
[04:16] <dbernar1_> Im so happy, I just got rid of 9G of files.
[04:16] <trappist> raid: it means wlan0 doesn't exist yet
[04:16] <Seveas> that should get you started 
[04:16] <dbernar1_> trash in fact. No wonder it was reaking here.
[04:16] <trappist> dbernar1_: that always feels good
[04:16] <sapo> thanx Seveas i m good at talking with bots you know :)
[04:17] <raid> trappist: the device is decteted thow
[04:17] <Seveas> raid, it means that even though wlan0 may exist; it is not yet in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:17] <Seveas> so ifup can't work with it
[04:17] <Seveas> raw ifconfig/iwconfig can 
[04:17] <raid> ok :( i'll try that
[04:17] <trappist> one of these days I'm gonna identify some of the places files like to accumulate and fill up my hard drive and write a nice script to keep it to a manageable level.  browser cache, thumbnails, trash, tmp files, apt cache, etc.
[04:17] <wassha> hmm im slowly fallin in love with ubuntu :D
[04:18] <Drac[Server] > Anyway, where is the Ubuntu logo image that is seen during the load before X starts located?
[04:18] <TotalNewb> Okay, I'm in the command line. passwd solo <newpassword>?
[04:18] <dabaR> Drac[Server] : you mean the gdm login image?
[04:18] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , inside the binary code that makes up the login process...
[04:18] <Seveas> TotalNewb, just passwd solo
[04:18] <Drac[Server] > dabaR, No. The one that shows before... oh.... damn. :(
[04:18] <Seveas> !usplash
[04:18] <ubotu> I guess usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:19] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , --^
[04:19] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, I've heard from a few sources that it's an actual file somewhere...
[04:19] <bliss> hello all
[04:19] <dabaR> Drac[Server] : that one?
[04:19] <TotalNewb> Can you use + in a unix password?
[04:19] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , it's not a graphic, it's a .png converted to C code
[04:19] <Seveas> TotalNewb, yes
[04:19] <Drac[Server] > dabaR, No.
[04:19] <bliss>  looking for java  appletplugin for mozilla for chat to linksys.com the name OF the package I think is something like x-java-vm
[04:19] <monzie> yes Toadstool
[04:19] <Drac[Server] > Seveas, that's disappointing.
[04:19] <dabaR> Drac[Server] : not even the usplash? what then?
[04:19] <Seveas> !tell bliss about java
[04:20] <TotalNewb> Okay, done. Now how do I add myself to the sudo group?
[04:20] <Seveas> TotalNewb, adduser solo admin
[04:20] <dabaR> You people use usplash? hehe, I am soo warty
[04:20] <jetscreamer> those live chat thingys are like doubleplusungood in linux i've noticed... ymmv
[04:20] <Seveas> uid=1000(dennis) gid=1000(dennis) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),103(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),117(admin),118(fuse),1000(dennis)
[04:20] <Scarborough> is there a n00b-friendly homepage maker in ubuntu?
[04:20] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , add yourself to those groups too
[04:20] <Seveas> Scarborough, nvu
[04:21] <TotalNewb> Admin doesn't exist...??? What has he done to this poor box?
[04:21] <Seveas> admin, not Admin
[04:21] <dabaR> admin
[04:21] <Seveas> linux is case sensitive
[04:21] <jetscreamer> adduser user sudo
[04:21] <dabaR> Seveas: ya, and bash feeds ext3 the same case it gets
[04:21] <jetscreamer> edit /etc/sudoers
[04:21] <TotalNewb> I know, I just can't help capitalizeing when speaking to people. I used admin. It's gone.. o.o?
[04:22] <dabaR> Seveas: or whatever else fs you use with your kernel...
[04:22] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey, what can i use for a FTP site.. Mozilla is not working for me and i use ftp under terminal but i cant recieve any files..
[04:22] <bliss> yess tell me about java
[04:22] <jetscreamer> gftp-text
[04:22] <dabaR> ubuntulog: places>connect to server
[04:22] <Seveas> bliss, ubotu sent you a message...
[04:22] <TotalNewb> user, also gone...?
[04:22] <trappist> TotalNewb: fellow word nazi?
[04:22] <jetscreamer> substitute your_user_name
[04:22] <bliss> where
[04:22] <dabaR> [Ubuntu] Bug: places> connect to server
[04:22] <Seveas> trappist, ?
[04:22] <[Ubuntu] Bug> i tried gftp but it wont work or is not installed
[04:22] <dabaR> ubuntulog: sorry
[04:22] <dabaR> pah
[04:23] <jetscreamer> apt-get install gftp gftp-text
[04:23] <Seveas> dabaR, ubuntulog is the log bot 
[04:23] <jetscreamer> might be in universe i dunno
[04:23] <dabaR> ya:) probab;y
[04:23] <trappist> Seveas: as in grammar stickler
[04:23] <bliss> ok thanks uboto
[04:23] <Bader> I'm looking for the firmware for bcm43xx, anyone has it ?
[04:23] <bliss> thanks ubotu
[04:23] <TotalNewb> I have a root group. I'll ad myself to that. It seems to be the only group left. Monti and Root.
[04:23] <Seveas> Bader, you need your windows driver and a program called firmwarecutter
[04:23] <Bader> Seveas: I'm looking for firmwarecutter
[04:24] <Bader> Seveas: I have the .sys file
[04:24] <jetscreamer> i never noticed being in the root group actually doing me any good, ymmv
[04:24] <Seveas> TotalNewb, ok, that 'friend' of yours completely screwed up
[04:24] <Seveas> TotalNewb, I recommend reinstalling - no one knows what else he did
[04:24] <dabaR> TotalNewb: ya, you could fix it, but better to reinstall if the system is faulty
[04:24] <Seveas> Bader, that's on the bcm43xx sourceforge site 
[04:24] <dabaR> TotalNewb: make separate partitions for / and /home while you are at it.
[04:25] <TotalNewb> I don't have a hoary CD with me. I'll have to get one at work. At least I know what's wrong now. Thanks :)
[04:25] <Seveas> TotalNewb, while you're at it: go for breezy 
[04:25] <dabaR> TotalNewb: breezy is the new version
[04:25] <TotalNewb> It's a solo 2500 can't run breezy.
[04:25] <guerra> can anyone help me with the Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". error?
[04:26] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Tired installing gftp-text but cant find the file
[04:26] <jetscreamer> !info gftp-text
[04:26] <ubotu> gftp-text: (colored FTP client using GLib), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 115 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[04:26] <oklinux> can some one help me on my printer is dont print when I hit print is show the job in the spool but not printing
[04:26] <reza> hey
[04:26] <arnix> !dma
[04:26] <jetscreamer> uni-ver-se
[04:26] <Seveas> !tell [Ubuntu] Bug about universe
[04:26] <Seveas> [Ubuntu] Bug, enable universe 
[04:26] <reza> guys i want to do they lince cd at school but i dont have internet then
[04:26] <wassha> "GPG error: http://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" eh?
[04:26] <reza> live
[04:27] <TotalNewb> I'm making a portable linux box for "recreational network exploration" it's only a 450mghz. ;) So to reinstall I go. Thanks for the help.
[04:27] <Seveas> wassha, don't use marilat on ubuntu
[04:27] <dabaR> wassha: nerim etch?
[04:27] <jetscreamer> oklinux: i had that with cups once... hp printer. i found that using the mc:par:something:something designator worked. hth.
[04:27] <Seveas> wassha, mixing debian and ubuntu repos is a recipe for disaster
[04:27] <jetscreamer> yeah there's an ubuntu version of marillat
[04:27] <jetscreamer> use it
[04:27] <Seveas> it's called cipherfunk 
[04:27] <Seveas> plf is also good
[04:27] <jetscreamer> i forget the place, use the sources generator on ubuntu site
[04:28] <jetscreamer> ah
[04:28] <jetscreamer>  that
[04:28] <SaLoMoN> re
[04:28] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Seveas: How i install universe
[04:28] <dabaR> jetscreamer: there is no sources generator on the ubuntu site, that source generator is on Seveas' ubuntu-nl site, really.
[04:28] <jetscreamer> by reading the thing the bot told you in the /msg
[04:28] <oklinux> is a laserjet 6p hp jetscreamer
[04:29] <Seveas> [Ubuntu] Bug, read what ubotu sent you
[04:29] <jetscreamer> dabaR: ok ... i found it through that site then :/
[04:29] <reza> lol
[04:29] <Rabobie> what is the equivalent debian command for "rpm -qa | grep <package_name>"
[04:29] <jetscreamer> oklinux: yeah use the mc:par thingy when telling it what printer to use, 'should' work
[04:29] <trappist> Rabobie: dpkg -l | grep ...
[04:29] <Seveas> Rabobie, apt-cache search <package>
[04:29] <Rabobie> thanks
[04:29] <jetscreamer> when you set up cups
[04:30] <trappist> Seveas: rpm -qa lists installed packages
[04:30] <ccooke> Seveas: that'll show ones that aren't installed, too
[04:30] <oklinux> what is the mc:par thingy ?
[04:30] <jetscreamer> oklinux: i forget it exactly, but you 'should' have seen it once... got hpoj or hplij ?
[04:30] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Seveas: thanks alot
[04:31] <jetscreamer> my officejet hasn't been hooked up in a while
[04:31] <jetscreamer> !info hpoj
[04:31] <dabaR> you can then use aptitude. aptitude search <package> and then if you have an i on the left, it is installed. or... "aptitude search blah|grep ^i
[04:31] <ubotu> hpoj: (HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.91-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1336 kB
[04:31] <jetscreamer> there are others
[04:31] <jetscreamer> oklinux: linux.hp.com
[04:31] <bliss> hello all
[04:31] <bliss> Has anyone got a link to sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[04:32] <klippo> create it
[04:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell bliss about javadebs
[04:32] <klippo> bliss: fakeroot make-jpkg  jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[04:32] <bliss> thanks ubotu
[04:33] <eriond> hi there
[04:33] <Kez> afternoon all.
[04:33] <eriond> anyone know how to locate a grub file that is an abortive linux install ?
[04:33] <usuario> illooooo
[04:34] <dabaR> eriond: what?
[04:34] <Kez> Anybody able to tell me how to configure a proxy server during Breezy installation?
[04:34] <eriond> i tried to install linux and it created a partiton too small for itself and also created a grub bot file i need to delete it so i can install ubuntu
[04:35] <eriond> bootsile
[04:35] <dabaR> Kez: is it installed?
[04:35] <dabaR> Kez: the breezy
[04:35] <eriond> no just the grub file
[04:35] <eriond> ohhh
[04:35] <dabaR> eriond: the boot files are in /boot
[04:36] <dabaR> eriond: I do not understand what you are asking though
[04:36] <Kez> Erm, yes, but I'm flattening it and putting it on a different drive. I can do it after install, but it hangs for ages during install when it's looking for repositories, if memory serves
[04:36] <madgik85> hellowi need some help, I just installed Dapper, and i am tring to enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories in Synaptics, but when I go to Settings>Repositories in Synaptics, it seems like a new page is loading but then nothing happens... how could I fix thix plz
[04:36] <eriond> daBar i have windows xp installed on my computer
[04:36] <el> any ideas why i dont have access to this file? root@linux:/dev# ./dsp
[04:36] <el> bash: ./dsp: Permission denied
[04:36] <eriond> i want to install ubuntu
[04:36] <avar> el: it's not executable
[04:36] <dabaR> eriond: oh no, better erase that quick(XP)
[04:37] <reiki_work> I have to say I am absolutely astounded. I have VMware Workstation 5.5.1 running on Breezy with WinXP installed as the VM guest OS. No more shutting down and swapping drives for the one and only program for which there is no linux port (medical equipment data recording)
[04:37] <eriond> i tried b4 but it creeated a bbootfile which i want to delete so ubuntu has a clean board to work on
[04:37] <reiki_work> I'm a happy camper
[04:37] <el> but i need to open the file
[04:37] <Kez> sorry dabaR: Erm, yes, but I'm flattening it and putting it on a different drive. I can do it after install, but it hangs for ages during install when it's looking for repositories, if memory serves
[04:37] <damned|office> hi all. does anybody uses netbeans 5.0 on dapper?
[04:38] <el> i cant even open it with text file
[04:38] <dabaR> eriond: reinstall removes all files
[04:38] <madgik85> hello, does anyone know how to enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories for Synaptics Package Manager in Dapper?
[04:38] <el> i dont have access at all
[04:39] <el> can someone help me please?
[04:39] <eriond> ok thanks dabar
[04:39] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Seveas: do i need the internet to install gftp
[04:40] <dabaR> madgik85: ? is it different than anywhere else?
[04:40] <madgik85> dabaR ... what do you mean is it different than anywhere else?
[04:41] <dabaR> el: sudo cat ./dsp
[04:41] <el> ok
[04:41] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Seveas: because i did all that stuff and it still cannot find it also when i did update a whole bunch of errors poped up relating to my internetless box!
[04:41] <dabaR> madgik85: I know how to do it in warty, hoary, and breezy
[04:41] <el> lol i think i fucked it up de dsp
[04:41] <el> the*
[04:42] <madgik85> dabaR  : its just when i go into Synaptics and go to Settings>Repositories, nothing happens, no window pops up with the list of repositories
[04:42] <dabaR> el: if you do not have access, it means you should likely not access.
[04:42] <el> the reason i opened it
[04:42] <dabaR> madgik85: use your terminal. "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:43] <el> it was because i have an error with the terminal server client
[04:43] <el> it says
[04:43] <madgik85> dabaR : ok thank you
[04:43] <dabaR> madgik85: dapper is the development version. use breezy
[04:43] <Kez> ah, found my answer (pass http_proxy= at the boot prompt) cyer folks
[04:43] <el> warning colout depth changed from 24 to 16 /dev/dsp:device or resource busy
[04:43] <madgik85> dabaR: yes i know, I have breezy already set up nicely, i want to try out Dapper for a while :D
[04:44] <oklinux> jetscreamer I cant find anything that related to the printer
[04:44] <dabaR> el: "lsof /dev/dsp"
[04:44] <snikker> i've got this error in nmap:  Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device
[04:44] <EricNeon> go to bed now~
[04:44] <el> ok
[04:44] <EricNeon> 
[04:45] <dabaR> EricNeon: you are magic
[04:45] <EricNeon> hoho
[04:45] <el> it show this thing root@linux:/dev# lsof /dev/dsp
[04:45] <el> COMMAND   PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[04:45] <el> xmms     8056 kevin    9w   CHR   14,3      7008 /dev/dsp
[04:45] <el> cat     11328  root    3r   CHR   14,3      7008 /dev/dsp
[04:46] <EricNeon> dabaR->: goog night~
[04:46] <el> i need to change de depth colour
[04:46] <EricNeon> bye all ~
[04:46] <el> to 24 im runing on 16
[04:46] <EricNeon> sleep
[04:46] <fangorious> anyone know how to get stuff mounted in /media to show up on the desktop?
[04:47] <fangorious> using dapper
[04:47] <MetaMorfoziS> when i open a .doc or .sxw from the cd, openoffice will loads, and quits. Why? If i copy it to my desktop and open or open from console: oowriter2 /media/cdrom/foo.doc it works, if i open it from konqueror its not.
[04:49] <dabaR> el: kill xmms
[04:49] <dabaR> then try the server thing again/
[04:50] <dabaR> fangorious: see, it could be a bug. I do not feel like working on something like that, when it could be a bug. things in /media are supposed to show up there.
[04:51] <dabaR> fangorious: but then again, it could be just a gconf setting. Apps>Sys Tools>COnfig Ed.
[04:51] <el> ok
[04:51] <MonsieurBon> hello
[04:51] <el> cheers dabar
[04:51] <dabaR> el: tell me whether it works...
[04:51] <MonsieurBon> is there anything like remote control for ubuntu?
[04:51] <Fitzsimmons> remote control?
[04:51] <dabaR> MonsieurBon: you mean like a remote for a tv?
[04:52] <Andre4s> when I install the kernel-headers. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:52] <Andre4s> kernel?
[04:52] <MonsieurBon> dabaR, no, like the thing with wich you can control another pc in windows
[04:52] <trappist> Andre4s: if you install linux-headers-$(uname -r) they should be found automatically
[04:52] <dabaR> MonsieurBon: google on vnc, and if you like trerminals, ssh
[04:52] <el> it doesnt
[04:52] <MonsieurBon> dabaR, thx
[04:53] <trappist> MonsieurBon: you can use rdesktop to remote control a windows box, or vnc or nx or just remote X for another linux box
[04:53] <cdr1000> hello
[04:53] <dabaR> el: same error?
[04:53] <Andre4s> trappist, where are they installed?
[04:53] <el> yup
[04:53] <netsurf3> hey guys anyone know how to get a trident cyber (vga ADAPTOR) running decent ? i just put kubuntu on there and it takes ages to process any graphics so i am guessing a misconfiguration
[04:53] <cdr1000> when i type sudo and use my password in the Desktop directory, it gives me an authorization error
[04:53] <MonsieurBon> trappist, remote X sounds promising
[04:53] <cdr1000> how can i reset my sudo password?
[04:53] <wassha> Seveas: ive just want it as repository for mplayer, w32codecall
[04:53] <nappunk> hi there mates
[04:54] <trappist> Andre4s: in /usr/src and /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include
[04:54] <faiper> Someone in Dapper ?
[04:54] <trappist> cdr1000: boot into recovery mode and run 'passwd username'
[04:54] <nappunk> is it possible to "dock" the gaim-window near the edge of the screen?
[04:54] <fangorious> dabaR: apps->nautilus->desktop->volumes_visible was unset, setting it works for cd, but not a partition I keep mounted under /media
[04:54] <Profichilla> faiper quite a while now
[04:55] <fangorious> faiper: since last night
[04:55] <Andre4s> thnks
[04:56] <dabaR> profi chilla
[04:56] <Profichilla> ?
[04:56] <nappunk> is there a german support-channel on this network?
[04:56] <trappist> nappunk: #ubuntu-de
[04:57] <nappunk> thx
[04:57] <trappist> np
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> when i open a .doc or .sxw from the cd, openoffice will loads, and quits. Why? If i copy it to my desktop and open or open from console: oowriter2 /media/cdrom/foo.doc it works, if i open it from konqueror its not.
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[04:57] <sakura> helo
[04:57] <selinium> HI all, I was trying to delete a custom keyboard setting, when I used the delete key. Now the delete key doesn't work. How do I get it back?
[04:57] <selinium> Hi Seveas :)
[04:58] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: my guess is it's a problem with the fact that it's read-only on the cd.  that's not what should happen, but I think that's what *is* happening.
[04:58] <sakura> hello, i have  problem, but i think now i know what is
[04:59] <sakura> i need to fix a problem related to "authentication protocols" "while "
[04:59] <sakura> "While connecting to session manager"
[04:59] <sakura> how can i enable my authentication protocols again?
[05:00] <faiper> I want install ktorrent in dapper ... but this ins't in aptitude
[05:00] <MetaMorfoziS> trappist: if i copy it to the desktop
[05:00] <selinium> HI all, I was trying to delete a keyboard shortcut, when I used the delete key. Now the delete key doesn't work. How do I get it back?
[05:00] <dabaR> sakura: is that when you log in?
[05:00] <MetaMorfoziS> oo will opens readonly
[05:00] <MetaMorfoziS> but opens!
[05:00] <MetaMorfoziS> the problem is when i open it from konqueror
[05:00] <sakura> It's reportefd in my ".xsession-errors" file
[05:01] <dabaR> sakura: are you unable to log in?
[05:01] <sakura> aldo when i start an application as a differnet user like "gksudo gedit" and "su anotheruser gedit"
[05:01] <bur[n] er> selinium: use "backspace" to delete a hotkey
[05:01] <sakura> i can log in, but i cant switch to another user session
[05:02] <dabaR> sakura: ya, in gnome, use only gksudo, not sudo to open graphical apps.
[05:02] <sakura> and i cant open graphics applications using different users
[05:02] <sakura> ok, i use gksudo
[05:02] <sakura> but it doesn't work
[05:02] <selinium> bur[n] er, I know that now! But it 'took' the delete key. So now it doesn't work. Do you know how to reset it?
[05:02] <dabaR> sakura: and if you are logged in to the xserver, you can not su to another user and open an app.
[05:02] <bur[n] er> selinium: go to the one where you set the delete key, click it, click backspace
[05:02] <selinium> :)
[05:03] <selinium> bur[n] er, Have done that, but it hasn't reassigned the delete key.
[05:03] <bur[n] er> selinium: what did you do?
[05:03] <mecha9> howdy
[05:04] <Rodietze> hey my diskette driver isnt working :\  but in windows it is, how to configure it?
[05:04] <ardchoille> is there a problem with the repos? sudo apt-get update is erroring out saying that the repos can't be contacted.
[05:04] <fangorious> dabaR: actually that one gconf option was it, I just had to restart dbus for it to catch the partition
[05:04] <Rodietze> ubuntu always automatically configured it now it isn't when I most needed it
[05:05] <fangorious> anyone know how to configure locales in dapper ('dpkg-reconfigure locales' doesn't let me select the ones to generate or set a default, it just regenerates what's already configured)
[05:05] <sakura> dabR yes, this is the problem
[05:05] <sakura> i cant open any graphic application of any other user, even root
[05:05] <selinium> bur[n] er, I assigned a keybord shortcut to 'PAUSE', then I went to remove it. I selected PAUSE then clicked delete before I read the backspace thing. I clicked the backspace thing to delete the assignment of Delete to PAUSE but it hasn't reassigned it to delete.
[05:05] <Rodietze> how to mount  a FLOppy drive? isn't mount -t auto /dev/floppy /media/floppy0 ?
[05:05] <selinium> :)
[05:05] <selinium> bur[n] er, If that makes any sense
[05:05] <bur[n] er> nope
[05:05] <bur[n] er> hehe
[05:06] <mikul> how do i create an alias. for example if i want a = apt-get install, because whwn i put in alias a = "apt-get install " it dosent save it for the next session.
[05:06] <bur[n] er> it still says "delete" by pause or it says "disabled" ?
[05:06] <fangorious> Rodietze: you might try /dev/fd0 too
[05:06] <fangorious> mikul: put it in ~/.bashrc
[05:06] <Profichilla> mikul put it in your ~/.bashrc
[05:06] <selinium> bur[n] er, It says disabled now. But the delete key doesn't delete anymore!
[05:06] <sakura> dabaR?
[05:06] <bur[n] er> selinium: restart gnome? :)
[05:07] <mikul> ok, will try that ;)
[05:07] <dabaR> fangorious: well, good
[05:08] <dabaR> sakura: it just does not work. the user that is logged in is the owner of the screen, so to say./
[05:08] <g-thunder> huhu hab grad linux drauf gemacht
[05:08] <dabaR> #ubuntu-de
[05:09] <g-thunder> ja genau ubuntu
[05:09] <sakura> but it worked before, because we used to write sudo gedit anyconfiguration file before
[05:09] <dabaR> g-thunder: /j #ubuntu-de
[05:09] <bur[n] er> sakura: gksudo gedit is better :)
[05:09] <g-thunder> wei jemand wie der channel von apple heit?
[05:09] <selinium> bur[n] er, That cured it!  Cheers for the help!
[05:09] <bur[n] er> selinium: is that dapper by chance?
[05:09] <selinium> !de
[05:09] <dabaR> g-thunder: #apple
[05:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:10] <selinium> bur[n] er, nope, breezy.. I am waiting for the RC
[05:10] <sakura> thanks now i know gksudo is better
[05:10] <sakura> but i need to launch gksugo gedit o gksudo nautilus again, but simply IT DOESNT WORK
[05:10] <bur[n] er> sakura: errors?
[05:11] <sakura> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:11] <sakura> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[05:11] <sakura> same error in my .xsession-errors file
[05:12] <sakura> i installed amsn 0.95-3.ubuntu from amsn website and system crashes in that way
[05:12] <sakura> i cant start any other user session if mine is open
[05:12] <Gy|suli> remove it with synaptic, install the linux binary instaler
[05:12] <Gy|suli> and have fun
[05:12] <Gy|suli> it installs to your home
[05:12] <el> ubuntu sucks
[05:12] <BigDaddy> hey guys, I found the Disk Manager and mounted 2 partitions. However I cannot access them because I am not root. How can I change the permissions so that I can access them?
[05:12] <el> debian rlz
[05:13] <Gy|suli> el, ubuntu is a SID snapshot ;)
[05:13] <selinium> el Go to #ubuntu-way-offtopic
[05:13] <ardchoille> lol
[05:13] <glacious> any word if more SATA support will be included in the next release?
[05:13] <sakura> bur[n] er?
[05:13] <glacious> coming in april
[05:13] <bur[n] er> !fstab
[05:13] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[05:13] <sakura> any idea?
[05:13] <thehil> how do I create /dev/fb0 and use it?
[05:13] <bur[n] er> that fstab is for your BigDaddy
[05:14] <bur[n] er> thehil: you don't create /dev/fb0
[05:14] <bur[n] er> sakura: rm .ICEAuthority?
[05:14] <sakura> ok i unisntalled amsn but error remains
[05:14] <sakura> what's rm?
[05:15] <bur[n] er> remove
[05:15] <sakura> bur[n] er, this file is placed in wich directory?
[05:15] <ardchoille> sakura, rm is an app that removes files
[05:15] <bur[n] er> ~/.ICEAuthority
[05:15] <BigDaddy> bur[n] er - I don't understand. Do I open mine and copy that over and save, or do I need to edit this to my setup?
[05:15] <thehil> bur[n] er: how do I acquire /dev/fb0?
[05:15] <sakura> There's no such file or directory
[05:15] <bur[n] er> BigDaddy: edit it to fit your setup
[05:15] <bur[n] er> thehil: you don't... /dev files are automatically createid
[05:16] <bur[n] er> thehil: you can mount /dev/fb0 to a mount point such as /media/floppy or somethin
[05:16] <bur[n] er> thehil: doesn't "floppy" just show up under "Places -> floppy"
[05:16] <thehil> bur[n] er: Do you have /dev/fb0? fb probably means framebuffer
[05:16] <foxpaul> does anybody know how i add a subdomain to a system with named?
[05:16] <bur[n] er> thehil: sorry... i was thinking floppy drive... my bad
[05:16] <sakura> reading my .xsession-errors file seems xsessionmanager is trying to use tcp, it's that correct?
[05:17] <thehil> foxpaul: try webmin interface, should be easier
[05:17] <BigDaddy> bur[n] er - I think this is a little over my head. Isn't there a GUI that I can use?
[05:17] <foxpaul> thehil, the machine i'm running it on doesn't have webmin
[05:17] <bur[n] er> BigDaddy: not sure in all honesty, i'm an old user ;)
[05:17] <foxpaul> thehil, i've addded the zone to the named config and restarted, but cant reach it
[05:19] <Storkme> hi, i've just installed nvclock-gtk through synaptic but i don't know how to launch the program. any ideas?
[05:19] <sakura> bur[n] er, i cant rm this file because it does not exist
[05:19] <dabaR> BigDaddy: no, can you open a terminal?
[05:19] <sakura> can i paste some of my .xsession-errors erros here?
[05:19] <bur[n] er> sakura: my bad again... ~/.ICEauthority is the file... no cap A
[05:19] <bur[n] er> sakura: pastebin
[05:20] <sakura> what's pastebin?
[05:20] <dabaR> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:21] <sakura> !pastebin
[05:21] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:21] <glacious> whats a good program to run to limit SSH logins?
[05:21] <glacious> my server is getting hammered with SSH logins from everywhere.
[05:22] <Storkme> hi, i've just installed nvclock-gtk through synaptic but i don't know how to launch the program. any ideas?
[05:22] <CentHOGG> hi, could someone help me config my module loader (take out ACPI)
[05:22] <fangorious> anyone have dapper with nautilus-open-terminal installed (and working)?
[05:22] <sakura> so cute, jeje
[05:22] <sakura> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8739
[05:22] <bur[n] er> fangorious: yes
[05:22] <prada> fangorious: yeah
[05:23] <fangorious> hm, maybe I'll reinstall it
[05:23] <bur[n] er> fangorious: restart nautilus?
[05:23] <glacious> so no way to limit SSH login attempts?
[05:23] <el> anyone use the terminal server client here?
[05:23] <prada> CentHOGG: you could pass the noacpi option to the kernel command line in grub
[05:23] <fangorious> bur[n] er: i've rebooted several times for other issues
[05:23] <sakura> bur[n] er, i rm the file you said, and now what i must do?
[05:24] <Storkme> hi, i've just installed nvclock-gtk through synaptic but i don't know how to launch the program. any ideas?
[05:24] <CentHOGG> prada: cool, could you tell me the menu.lst command
[05:24] <fangorious> no, reinstall didn't help
[05:24] <el> anyone?
[05:24] <prada> CentHOGG: yeah ... just append noacpi to the line there
[05:24] <CentHOGG> ok
[05:24] <glacious> how would one defend against a bruge force SSH login attempt?
[05:25] <prada> glacious: http://www.jihe.net/technical/my_linux_whitebox/stop_ssh_brute_force_attack.php
[05:25] <bur[n] er> sakura: gksudo blah
[05:25] <fangorious> glacious: with chuck norris
[05:25] <sakura> i hate amsn 0.95-3 for ubuntu, it damages my system :(
[05:25] <tatters> portsentry maybe thatll stop them
[05:25] <prada> sakura: use gaim
[05:25] <sakura> there's no blah
[05:25] <sakura> gaim?
[05:25] <sakura> gksudo gaim?
[05:25] <glacious> fangorious: ahh, the infinite solution.
[05:25] <glacious> prada: thank you =)
[05:25] <Storkme> hi, i've just installed nvclock-gtk through synaptic but i don't know how to launch the program. any ideas?
[05:25] <sakura> gksudo gaim works
[05:26] <sakura> gksudo gedit still wrong
[05:26] <sakura> prada?
[05:26] <dabaR> no need to run gaim in root
[05:26] <prada> why are you trying to gksudo all this ?
[05:26] <sakura> excuseme prada, i think you're talking about the things i must check
[05:27] <prada> sakura: I think I'm kinda lost :)
[05:27] <pm_> which is the default root passwd of ubuntu?
[05:27] <prada> pm_: there isn;t any
[05:27] <doofy> ""
[05:27] <tatters> portsntry can block the iP from brute forcing ya
[05:27] <sakura> mmm, the problem i have is, i cant start graphic progrms as differnet user froma running session
[05:27] <glacious> why would netstat show like 20 TIME_WAIT connections to the same address into my SSH port?
[05:27] <pm_> prada be it asks for it...
[05:27] <glacious> and /var/log/messages isn't showing any failed login attempts.
[05:27] <pm_> prada be it asks for it...
[05:27] <pm_> s/be/but
[05:27] <prada> sakura: you need to to do an export DISPLAY=:0
[05:27] <bur[n] er> sakura: maybe your gedit root config is all f'd up... i'm really not sure
[05:27] <bur[n] er> prada: he shouldn't have to
[05:28] <Storkme> hi, i've just installed nvclock-gtk through synaptic but i don't know how to launch the program. any ideas?
[05:28] <bur[n] er> prada: not with "sudo"
[05:28] <prada> bur[n] er: I'm way lost ... I'm stepping out of this one :) .. I have call to attend anyway
[05:28] <sakura> nope, if i write gksu otheruser gedit or gksu otheruser nautilus or anything like that this programs dont work
[05:28] <Zazzie> hi, im having problems with a server running ubuntu. on almost all commands i give, i get an input/output error. i figured out this is due to the fact that my filesystem is mounted read-only which is caused by badblocks on my hd. now im trying to reboot the machine but i dont have fysical access and shutdown/reboot give i/oo errors aswell
[05:28] <Zazzie> does anyone know how i can reboot the machine?
[05:29] <sakura> the problem is in the gnome
[05:29] <fangorious> Zazzie: sudo reboot
[05:29] <sakura> in the session manager that cant verify my accounts
[05:29] <ardchoille> is there a problem with the repos? sudo apt-get update is erroring out saying that some repos can't be contacted (404).
[05:29] <Zazzie> fangorious, like i said... that gives an i/o error
[05:29] <BigDaddy> dabaR - sorry, I was trying to figure it out and was in another window. Yes I can open a terminal
[05:29] <fangorious> Zazzie: sorry, missed that
[05:29] <Storkme> hi, i've just installed nvclock-gtk through synaptic but i don't know how to launch the program. any ideas?
[05:29] <Zazzie> fangorious, np :)
[05:29] <fangorious> Zazzie: maybe sudo telinit 6
[05:29] <Zazzie> ill try.. runlevel 6 is reboot?
[05:30] <_jason> Storkme: dpkg -L nvclock-gtk | grep bin
[05:30] <sakura> my system become damaged
[05:30] <fangorious> Zazzie: yes
[05:30] <Zazzie> telinit 6 does nothing.. :(
[05:31] <Zazzie> no error and no output :(
[05:31] <Zazzie> and no reboot :(
[05:31] <Storkme> thanks _
[05:31] <Storkme> thanks _jason
[05:32] <damo21> Seveas: hi, i tried installing your latest jre java package and i get 403 permission error
[05:32] <_jason> damo21: use a mirror
[05:32] <damo21> pl
[05:32] <damo21> ok
[05:32] <sakura> xirc was down :(
[05:33] <Zazzie> fangorious, any other idea's ? :)
[05:34] <tatters> is there any switch u can to add to reboot like reboot -f for force?
[05:34] <fangorious> Zazzie: ctl.alt.del maps to '/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now' so maybe that will help
[05:34] <tatters> u need the force ;P
[05:34] <Zazzie> /sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
[05:34] <Zazzie> -bash: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error
[05:35] <glacious> is there a program or daemon that will limit the number of SSH login attempts from an IP?
[05:35] <fangorious> Zazzie: nobody you can contact who has physical access?
[05:35] <Zazzie> well no... its in a datacenter..
[05:35] <sakura> ok, thanks to all
[05:35] <sakura> i only have one thing to say
[05:36] <Zazzie> i think im going to have to jump in a car and go there :(
[05:36] <fangorious> Zazzie: and they don't have 24-7 attendants?
[05:36] <sakura> we never install again the amsn from amsn.sourceforge, it's bad
[05:36] <sakura> brother and me was fighting for days to recover this damage and there's no way :(
[05:36] <Zazzie> fangorious, i think so... gonna try that..
[05:36] <Zazzie> thanks anyway
[05:37] <g-thunder> hallo
[05:37] <g-thunder> ich hab grad linux ubuntu drauf gemacht und ich wei nicht wo ich counterstrike 1.6 finde kann mir jemand helfen?
[05:37] <arrinmurr> !de
[05:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:37] <glacious> so theres no modules that auto-block IP's or anything after x failed SSH attemts?
[05:38] <sakura> prada, why you asked me to start gaim?
[05:38] <Drac[Server] > What's the command to run the automatic updater?
[05:38] <fangorious> glacious: i think portsentry can do that
[05:38] <thegladiator> apt-get update
[05:38] <thegladiator> is that what you are looking for ?
[05:38] <Drac[Server] > No. I mean the one that pops up to tell you when updates are available.
[05:38] <g-thunder> where i can found counterstrike for ubuntu?
[05:38] <tatters> glacious try portsentry it will block the attacking ip by closing ports
[05:38] <glacious> fangorious: is there a way to make sshd log to something other than /var/log/messages?
[05:38] <NRG88> hi, where can i change the login manager? currently i have KDE's manager, and i wan't to have gnome's
[05:38] <glacious> tatters: thank you
[05:39] <fangorious> glacious: probably, i'd have to read the docs though
[05:39] <glacious> tatters: right now i'm using iptables configured by Firehol
[05:39] <damo21> Drac: update-manager
[05:39] <Drac[Server] > damo21, thanks.
[05:41] <damo21> is there any way to remotely login to a freshly installed ubuntu before sshd was installed?
[05:42] <Pavel> hi all
[05:42] <[Ubuntu] Bug> AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[05:42] <firen> hola alguien habla espaol aqui?
[05:43] <damo21> !es
[05:43] <cthompson> anyone have any experience with 5.10 under vmware/windows?
[05:43] <[Ubuntu] Bug> No speake Espanol
[05:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:43] <cthompson> specifically Evolution
[05:43] <Kraynov> 
[05:43] <firen> oks
[05:43] <cthompson> I can't type in my password to the Evo/Exchange "Contact" page
[05:43] <cthompson> it won't focus, like the modality is wrong
[05:43] <Kraynov> i very glad for ubuntu
[05:43] <mp3guy> where is the ubuntu startup sound stored?
[05:44] <BigDaddy> OK, I have the diskmounter script saved to my desktop, but I cannot run it in my terminal. It keeps saying "bash: diskmounter: No such file or directory
[05:44] <BigDaddy> "
[05:44] <fangorious> mp3guy: System->Preferences->Sounds maybe
[05:44] <veritas> wewt, im on breezy :)
[05:45] <veritas> lates
[05:45] <_jason> BigDaddy: cd ~/Desktop, try again
[05:45] <NRG88> is there a restart button, not just a logout button in gnome?
[05:45] <damo21> is hald broken in ubuntu?
[05:45] <CentHOGG> the new kernel download messed up my menu.lst could someone please help me
[05:46] <BigDaddy> _jason - with the ~ in there as well?
[05:46] <prada> CentHOGG: what's wrong ?
[05:46] <Kraynov> there's any files managers in ubuntu except nautilus&
[05:46] <_jason> BigDaddy: sure
[05:46] <Kraynov> there's any files managers in ubuntu except nautilus?
[05:46] <fangorious> NRG88: System->Shut Down... should give you an option to restart
[05:46] <CentHOGG> prada: I set it up for dual-boot xp and I can't seem to get the chainloader working
[05:46] <ablomen> BigDaddy, you should check if the file has the right premissions, try "chmod 755 file"
[05:46] <fangorious> Kraynov: konqueror,
[05:46] <CentHOGG> prada: to boot the xp
[05:47] <BigDaddy> thanks _jason
[05:47] <prada> CentHOGG: you mean chainloader +1 a the grub prompt doesn't work ?
[05:47] <fangorious> Kraynov: probably a gnome version of midnight commander, maybe rox, i think xcfe has it's own
[05:47] <NRG88> hm, don't have shutdown, fangorious  only Logout and Lock screen
[05:47] <prada> CentHOGG: what's the error message like ?
[05:47] <CentHOGG> prada: yeah that or I don't have the entry config right
 try map
[05:47] <CentHOGG> one sec
[05:47] <damo21> CentHOGG you might need to include "map (hd0) (hdx) ; map (hdx) (hd0)
[05:47] <fangorious> NRG88: are you in the adm group?
[05:48] <NRG88> hm, i have to add my self i guess :)
[05:48] <danif_600> holas
 i need somerhing like midnight or total commander
[05:48] <fangorious> Kraynov: i'm sure midnight commander is packaged
[05:48] <damo21> windoze likes to boot from hd0
[05:48] <Ng> mc
[05:48] <trappist> windows 9x does
[05:48] <trappist> and maybe nt4 too, but win2k and winxp etc. don't care
[05:49] <tote> espaoles??
[05:49] <CentHOGG> damo21: ok I'm in grub at the entry
[05:49] <trappist> tote: #ubuntu-es
[05:49] <Kraynov> fangorious> does mc stored on ubuntu installation disk?
[05:49] <damo21> ok well i only have experience with 98se... i needed to map the second hdd to hd0
[05:49] <CentHOGG> damo21: root (hd1,1)
[05:49] <Kraynov> i haven't 'thick' inet?
[05:49] <Kraynov> i haven't 'thick' inet..
[05:49] <CentHOGG> damo21: makeactive
[05:49] <fangorious> Kraynov: sudo apt-get install mc
[05:50] <CentHOGG> damo21: chainloader +1
[05:50] <NRG88> fangorious, admin group, at the group members there i am
[05:50] <prada> CentHOGG: seems right ..
[05:50] <tote> algun espaol?
[05:50] <NRG88> and still no shutdown :?
[05:50] <Kraynov> fangorious: thanks. i'll try
[05:50] <CentHOGG> prada: how do I use map
[05:50] <damo21> Centhogg sounds good... are you sure its hd1,1 ?
[05:50] <fangorious> NRG88: you on breezy? (i keep forgetting i just upgraded to dapper yesterday)
[05:50] <NRG88> yes
[05:50] <NRG88> and i originally had kubuntu
[05:50] <NRG88> just installed ubuntu-desktop on top of it
[05:51] <damo21> CentHOGG: try booting to the command line in grub and using the tab autocompletion
[05:51] <CentHOGG> damo21: it looks like this sda1 is swap and sda2 is XP
[05:51] <CentHOGG> damo21: yeah I forgot how to do that
[05:51] <CentHOGG> damo21: tab auto
[05:51] <damo21> CentHOGG:   grub> root (TAB
[05:51] <prada> CentHOGG: don't remember this map business ...
[05:52] <prada> don't know if it's really necessary though ..
[05:52] <ablomen> btw, is there a xgl .deb package or a repository that has it already? im not the compile from source type
[05:52] <prada> ablomen: I think it made it to dapper
[05:52] <Kraynov> ok bye
[05:52] <fsmw> hi all!, i can't find a package for mod_rewrite (Apache) in breezy, somebody have any clue?
[05:52] <ablomen> prada, dapper?
[05:52] <damo21> well do you know exactly which partition and on which disk your xp partition is?
[05:52] <prada> ablomen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xserver-xgl
[05:53] <ablomen> prada, thanks ill look there
[05:53] <prada> ablomen: you'll probably run into dependancy hell
[05:54] <skeff> to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy, if that's not entirely idiotic, do I just have to replace 'breezy' with 'dapper' in sources and then run 'dist-upgrade' ?
[05:54] <ablomen> prada, yeah i figure, but it looks neat enough to try
[05:55] <damo21> CentHOGG: I used to have a bug where my xp partition would only boot every second time... try rebooting and selecting it again it should boot
[05:55] <Scarborough> how do I install a program thats in rpm format?
[05:55] <prodigy60> got a question for whoever can help, i'm running a dual boot setup on my lappy, specifically xp pro and ubuntu and from grub, whenever i select doze it starts to boot up, bluescreens and reboots back to grub, then if i select windows again it does the safe mode start up prompt and allows for a regular start up, after which it boots just fine... anyone know whats goin on?
[05:55] <prada> ablomen: from what I've seen with NLD 10 it's great ...
[05:56] <prodigy60> Scarborough, try installing the aline package, thats what i use anyway, it converts alien package formats to .deb packages for installation =)
[05:56] <damo21> prodigy60 i had the same problem, i think its just the way xp detects the boot flag
[05:56] <carlos> hi
[05:56] <carlos> is normal that dapper keeps changing the permissions for /var/lock directory?
[05:56] <Scarborough> prodigy60 whats the command for that?
[05:56] <j2daosh> what command will show me only the active connections? i dont care about the listening one... i just wanna know what connections are being made on my computer
[05:57] <carlos> it removes the write access to all users
[05:57] <bj_> ** ntfs
[05:57] <prada> j2daosh: netstat
[05:57] <Morclye> Hi everyone! I'm going to install my first ever Linux next weekend and I've chosen Ubuntu. I'm not sure though which suites me best.
[05:57] <j2daosh> and where is the log file for all internet connections being made to my computer? auth.log?
[05:57] <ablomen> prada, yeah the 3d and transperency stuff looks great, to bad we have to wait till version 6.* before its included in ubuntu
[05:57] <prodigy60> sudo apt-get install alien then from there cd to the dir where the .rpm file is and run alien <package.name> and it'll generate a .deb file for you
[05:57] <j2daosh> netstat gives me the listening ports and all that jive... i just want to know what is connected... without the whole listening port thing
[05:57] <j2daosh> and what program (if any) caused the connection
[05:57] <prada> ablomen: switch to the dapper release and try the devel version ;)
[05:57] <sorcurer> hi
[05:57] <prodigy60> Scarborough, heh, forgot to mention your name in the line, read my last comment, sorry ;D
[05:58] <CentHOGG> damo21: I'm still having no luck. The error is Filesystem type unknown
[05:58] <sorcurer> has anybody install asterisk on ubuntu?
[05:58] <faiper> Someone in Dapper ?
[05:58] <prodigy60> damo21, think it could be something in the boot.ini file in doze? hopefully something i can fix easily enough, its getting really old
[05:58] <Morclye> I seem to like more KDE, but I was wondering if Kubuntu is good to have as first Linux distribution or should I use Ubuntu ?
[05:58] <prada> j2daosh: /var/log/syslog is probab;ly your best bet
[05:58] <Scarborough> prodigy60 didnt work
[05:58] <prada> faiper: yeah
[05:58] <j2daosh> is something going wrong with the wine.sourceforge website? it gives me like a 3k download for wine and constantly resets the connection
[05:58] <damo21> prodigy60:  try using map in grub
[05:59] <prodigy60> damo21, cool, i'll check it out, did you ever get yours fixed?
[05:59] <SAAD3000> hello,how come i can get internet under xp/suse/ and not on Ubuntu the configuration is done right.
[05:59] <prodigy60> Scarborough, did it generate the .deb files for you at least?
[05:59] <ablomen> prada, do i just change breezy into dapper in sources.list at the universe part?
[05:59] <damo21> prodigy60: i use 98se + ubuntu.. 98se on second hdd works fine
[05:59] <Scarborough> prodigy60 no, it says it cant find the file
[06:00] <Scarborough> prodigy60 I have saved it on the desktop
[06:00] <damo21> prodigy60: but i had to map the second hdd to hd0
[06:00] <prada> ablomen: yes it should work more or less , atleast that's what i did. had to work around a few problems with the packages
[06:00] <NRG88> sorush20, anyone know how can i just shutdown the system, instead of clicking on the logout button, and then shutdown?
[06:00] <prodigy60> Scarborough, are you running the alien command from the same directory? might be easier that way, if not put the full path to the file
[06:00] <ablomen> prada, ok thanks ill do that and hope for the best ;)
[06:00] <prada> ablomen: and if you're new to this sort of thing , the kernel doesn't install right, it has a problem with mkinitrd
[06:01] <prada> ablomen: so you can't boot :)
[06:01] <SAAD3000> hello,how come i can get internet under xp/suse/ and not on Ubuntu the configuration is done right.
[06:01] <damo21> CentHOGG: you are trying to boot from the wrong partition... you have the numbers mixed up in the root () command
[06:01] <prodigy60> damo21, unfortunately dont have the option of multiple hdd's on this machine (stupid laptop!) sounds good tho, i'll dig through and check out map and the boot.ini file and see if i can figure out whats goin on, thanks!
[06:01] <ablomen> prada, do i have to update to that new kernel? should be optional isnt it?
[06:01] <g-thunder> ich wil jetzt verdammt noch mal cs16
[06:02] <SAAD3000> hello,how come i can get internet under xp/suse/ and not on Ubuntu the configuration is done right.
[06:02] <NetGeek> morning all, I'm looking for a dapper flight 3 mirror, only getting 38kb/s from ubuntu.com
[06:03] <damo21> CentHOGG: hit escape to get into grub, hit 'c' for command line and try:  root (<TAB>,<TAB>
[06:03] <mirak> is flash working for you on dapper ?
[06:03] <mirak> with firefox
[06:03] <Scarborough> prodigy60 Ive tried but it didnt work
[06:03] <prodigy60> Scarborough, after you nav to your desktop in a terminal type "alien -d <package.name>" and it *should* generate the .deb file you need, and from there its a straight install like normal, if thats not working i dont know what else to say :S i'm far from a nix guru, heh
[06:03] <prada> ablomen: well ... just be careful ..
[06:03] <ablomen> prada, lol ok thanks for the advies :)
[06:04] <faiper> mirak:  is flash working
[06:04] <mirak> faiper: how could I know ?
[06:04] <mirak> faiper: just it fails to install in fact
[06:04] <ubuntu> hi, i'm running a ubuntu live disc, is there anyway to save settings to a usb drive?
[06:05] <Stargazers> Hi. Has anyone else problem with sshfs in Dapper? In Breezy it worked fine, now it says: "fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory"
[06:05] <faiper> mirak: easy ... install dapper and see
[06:05] <SAAD3000> hello,how come i can get internet under xp/suse/ and not on Ubuntu the configuration is done right. (Internet is LAN behind proxy)
[06:05] <xerophyte> I have installed postgresql -8.0 and get this error psql: FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user  how can i fix it ?
[06:05] <Scarborough> prodigy60 this sux, says it cant find the file
[06:05] <NetGeek> does dapper have mirrors for download (bittorrent blocked at work)
[06:05] <mirak> faiper: it didn't came to your mind I am probably using dapper ?
[06:05] <damo21> Does anyone know if dapper has more stable usb automounting than breezy?
[06:05] <athan> slt
[06:06] <athan> slt
[06:06] <damo21> !fr
[06:06] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:06] <prodigy60> Scarborough, odd, are you sure you're navigating to the same dir and everything? try "ls" and see if its listed, and either tab to complete the name or type it EXACTLY as its printed
[06:06] <faiper> mirak: get this packet gsfonts-x11
[06:06] <faiper> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/gsfonts-x11
[06:07] <faiper> install
[06:07] <mirak> faiper: ok
[06:07] <faiper> and aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:07] <Gy|suli> na by allz
[06:07] <bj_> is there a way to search in here like ??
[06:07] <SAAD3000> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-10-686_2.6.12-10.28_i386.deb is this the latest for 5.10?
[06:08] <damo21> when will dapper be released?
[06:09] <trappist> !dapper
[06:09] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, trappist
[06:09] <prada> damo21: 0406
[06:09] <trappist> huh
[06:09] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to find something that's the equivilent of the "run command" window in Windows. You see, I'm trying to make the menus and such in Ubuntu look just like Windows, as an experiment to see which functionality level people prefer. Isn't there a small program like this?
[06:09] <ablomen> and another question, iv got a hp deskjet 6122 printer and it doesnt work until i do "chmod 777 /dev/usb/lp0"
[06:09] <trappist> Drac[Server] : alt-f2
[06:09] <ablomen> i have to do that eacht time i reboot
[06:10] <Drac[Server] > trappist, great! Now, what's the command to run this? :P
[06:10] <prodigy60> Scarborough, check this page out, it might help out a lil with the .rpm file    http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[06:10] <trappist> Drac[Server] : in gnome, I don't know
[06:10] <Scarborough> prodigy60 ok thanks
[06:10] <mirak> faiper: thanks a lot
[06:10] <Drac[Server] > Does anyone else here know the answer?
[06:10] <faiper> =)
[06:10] <ablomen> cups does see the printer but it just jumps to paused when i want to print something, unless i do the chmod thing
[06:10] <prodigy60> Scarborough, np, good luck, you'll get it figured out =)
[06:11] <damo21> Drac, in xfce u can
[06:11] <Drac[Server] > damo21, that's useless to me.
[06:11] <farous> Scarborough: you could not find a deb or a source for the package you wana install ?
[06:11] <G0SUB> Drac[Server] : it's not a separate application / command per se ... it's integrated into the GNOME Panel
[06:11] <trappist> Drac[Server] : try gnome-run
[06:11] <Scarborough> farous: I downloaded limewire and there were just .rpm format
[06:11] <Drac[Server] > G0SUB, awkward.... um... is there some way I could 'make' it run from a command?
[06:12] <farous> Scarborough: i have it here and it has a source bin format
[06:12] <trappist> Drac[Server] : try gnome-run
[06:12] <farous> !limewire
[06:12] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[06:12] <farous> ^   &
[06:12] <prodigy60> Scarborough, theres specific instructions to install limewire in ubuntu, gimme a sec and i'll pull em up for ya
[06:12] <G0SUB> Drac[Server] : gnome-run may be
[06:12] <Drac[Server] > that isn't a command.
[06:12] <Scarborough> prodigy60 thanks that would be great
[06:12] <ablomen> Scarborough, you can use alien for that, it isnt nice but it works
[06:12] <Burgermann> How to install KDE-Desktop using apt-get?
[06:13] <farous> !tell Scarborough about limewire
[06:13] <ablomen> Burgermann, sudo apt-get install kde
[06:13] <farous> Scarborough: check ubotu link
[06:13] <thegladiator> i have this prob
[06:13] <Burgermann> Thanks guys
[06:13] <Burgermann> il try it out now
[06:13] <Scarborough> ok
[06:13] <SAAD3000> hello,how come i can get internet under xp/suse/ and not on Ubuntu the configuration is done right. (Internet is LAN behind proxy)
[06:13] <ablomen> Burgermann, ok good luck
[06:13] <trappist> Drac[Server] : you could switch to kde and use katapult, which is a run dialog on steroids so cool it singlehandedly converted my gf from windows
[06:13] <Burgermann> btw. How do I know that X's installed?
[06:13] <jonatan> hi. has anyone got higher resolutions to work in dapper with i915? the 915resolution program seems to be gone
[06:13] <thegladiator> i am trying to stream online songs using FF , it asks  me for the player , options are real player and windows player and status shown is not installed !
[06:14] <tatters> I jst installed ubuntu created a source list with automaic list creator, 2 problems Y are half the repos not vailable and Y do I get unsafe key wehn I run the commands that are given in advice
[06:14] <trappist> Drac[Server] : or if all else fails ask on #gnome
[06:14] <Drac[Server] > trappist, sounds nice, but I'm trying to make this look like Windows, and it's currently an offline machine. KDE is not an option, even though it looks quite a bit like XP.
[06:14] <ablomen> Burgermann, hehe if youv just installed the normal ubuntu install you dont have to worrie about X
[06:15] <ablomen> Burgermann, thats a thing that gnome uses to, so that shouldnt be a problem
[06:15] <Burgermann> ablomen: I thought I installed the default package of Kubuntu, but only a console appeard on first boot :(
[06:15] <G0SUB> Drac[Server] : gnome-open
[06:15] <dan_t> hello
[06:15] <tatters> unbuntu security updates are not working is that mormal,,will they be backup?
[06:15] <trappist> no, ubuntu has discontinued security updates
[06:15] <prodigy60> Scarborough, i *think* these are the instructions i used, i know i have it running on my system but once i got it installed i deleted the bookmark, this should work for you just fine tho: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_P2P_Gnutella_Client_.28LimeWire.29
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[06:15] <Burgermann> Couldn't find the package: kde with apt-get
[06:15] <tatters> lol
[06:16] <thegladiator> here is a screen shot to make it more clear , i am trying to oplay music from a site , its says no players installed http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7704/screenshot0hg.png
[06:16] <tatters> u got me
[06:16] <tatters> I was wtf
[06:16] <thegladiator> can I rectify this problem ?
[06:16] <ablomen> Burgermann, ok thats wrong you should try to install it again, something whent realy wrong
[06:16] <dan_t> i just upgraded to dapper and i have some problems with the desktop background. looks like nautilus is not refreshing the root window properly. some one has the same problem?
[06:16] <Burgermann> :s
[06:17] <ablomen> Burgermann, takes a lott less time than fixing it, trust me
[06:17] <CrAzYoNi> Hello all
[06:18] <thegladiator> folkz http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7704/screenshot0hg.png , the window is a popup from a online music site
[06:18] <Burgermann> ablomen: I'll reinstall.. thanx for your help :)
[06:18] <thegladiator> how can I allow streaming ?
[06:18] <CrAzYoNi> I forgot.. there is some really good editor software, something that  its name include "fish" or something like that.... maybe anybody here knows it's name?\
[06:18] <Enho> Burgerman it happened to me, too
[06:18] <tatters> So does this happen regulaly have they changed servers Y is there no updates
[06:18] <j2daosh> is firestarter a decent firewall?
[06:18] <ablomen> Burgermann, dont mention it, good luck
[06:18] <thegladiator> j2daosh, its a front end
[06:18] <dabaR> it is indecent
[06:18] <j2daosh> a front end to what?
[06:18] <Ivaldi> Does anyone know what the command is to reinitialize the mouse?
[06:18] <Enho> i had'nt space on hard drive
[06:18] <thegladiator> j2daosh, its based on the inbuilt firewall
[06:18] <CrAzYoNi> j2daosh, firestarter is based on iptables
[06:19] <Enho> so some packets was not installed
[06:19] <CentHOGG> hi, I tried earlier to get ACPI not to load at bootup thru GRUB but that didn't stop it from loading
[06:19] <Enho> ad Xpacckets too
[06:19] <thegladiator> j2daosh, it should not be bad going by its popularity
[06:19] <j2daosh> i dont know about iptables... i made a few lines for my iptables... but i dont know how to import them into it
[06:19] <prodigy60> j2daosh, good luck uninstalling it if you dont like it, i cant get it to uninstall cleanly, it gives an error and i cant fix it :(
[06:19] <CrAzYoNi> firestarter its the gui ( this is how I like to describ it anyway ) for iptables :-)
[06:20] <j2daosh> well i would much rather just learn how to incorperate my chain rules into my ip table but i think i will have to just install a firewall because i cant figure it out
[06:20] <Drac[Server] > trappist, gnome-open appears to be for urls.
[06:20] <thegladiator> _jason, are you here ?
[06:20] <j2daosh> CrAzYoNi, wait... so i can add rules to firestarter?
[06:20] <thegladiator> could someone look at http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7704/screenshot0hg.png ?
[06:20] <CentHOGG> is there a way to remove ACPI altogether from the module loader?
[06:20] <Drac[Server] > Err... that was meant to be directed at somebody else. Sorry.
[06:20] <thegladiator> and tell me how I can I make FF understand that realplayer exists in my system ?
[06:21] <thegladiator> is there a real player plugin for FF  ?
[06:21] <j2daosh> yeah
[06:21] <Drac[Server] > G0SUB,, gnome-open appears to be for urls.
[06:21] <thegladiator> how can I play online music using the browser ?
[06:21] <j2daosh> u have to get the plugin
[06:21] <thegladiator> which plaugin is that ?
[06:21] <thegladiator> and how can I get it ?
[06:21] <j2daosh> flash/realplayer...
[06:21] <tatters> soooo anyone idea Y is there no security  updates available
[06:22] <j2daosh> dont know... i use opera
[06:22] <thegladiator> could you tell about installing plugins ?
[06:22] <thegladiator> to FF ?
[06:22] <snoozix> thegladiator: what about that screenshot?
[06:22] <thegladiator> oh oh
[06:22] <thegladiator> snoozix, can you see a  popup  ?
[06:22] <j2daosh> i know you have to dl them and with the java put a link to it in the /mozilla/firefox/plugins directory or something
[06:22] <snoozix> thegladiator: that musicindiaonline thing?
[06:22] <thegladiator> that is from a music portal
[06:23] <thegladiator> correct
[06:23] <j2daosh> thegladiator, google "adding plugins to firefox"
[06:23] <thegladiator> i can show you a song page if you dont iind :)
[06:23] <thegladiator> mind*
[06:23] <CentHOGG> is there a way to remove ACPI altogether from the module loader?
[06:23] <Ivaldi> Does anyone know what the command is to reinitialize the mouse?
[06:23] <tatters> Fellow ubuntians Y is there no security update server available for Ubuntu
[06:24] <snoozix> tatters: there is.
[06:24] <thegladiator> snoozix, http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/5/m/artist.325/ go there and click on the song you want
[06:24] <thegladiator> and click on "play selected songs"
[06:24] <tatters> well I am getting cannot find use old etc
[06:24] <thegladiator> I need to get that working
[06:24] <tatters> so im stuck with old kernalf
[06:24] <thegladiator> j2daosh, thanks ...lemme ask here first
[06:25] <tatters> does it get overloaded at times should i wait?
[06:25] <snoozix> thegladiator: dunno
[06:25] <CentHOGG> hi, I tried earlier to get ACPI not to load at bootup thru GRUB but that didn't stop it from loading
[06:25] <snoozix> thegladiator: looks bad to me :)
[06:25] <thegladiator> snoozix, like you getting the popup itself ?
[06:26] <thegladiator> or the song ? :)
[06:26] <snoozix> thegladiator: i get it - but i don't get the song.
[06:26] <thegladiator> snoozix, exactly I was wondering how to set it up
[06:26] <thegladiator> snoozix, its easy in windoz
[06:26] <thegladiator> snoozix, i dont how to make FF undertsand there is real player 1
[06:26] <snoozix> thegladiator: this is not windows and i'm proud of that :)
[06:26] <thegladiator> :)
[06:27] <tatters> I got the soucelist from the automatic thing because the efault security update in ubuntu says there was a md5 problem with the files
[06:27] <snoozix> thegladiator: and i think it's quite reasonable that it does _not_ work at all.
[06:27] <ablomen> anyone, im trying to update to dapper but i get an error while configuring the packages: Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:27] <ablomen>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-gnome2_2.12.3-1ubuntu3_all.deb
[06:27] <snoozix> thegladiator: sorry, but i can understand more or less that it will not work.
[06:27] <thegladiator> snoozix, perpahs but I was thinkig that all music players ..online music sites...work like this ?
[06:27] <thegladiator> it must find a player or something ?
[06:27] <ablomen> after that, the configuring stops
[06:28] <skazi_> What does everyone here think of the stability og Ubuntu? 1-10 ? i give it 8
[06:28] <skazi_> What does everyone here think of the stability of Ubuntu? 1-10 ? i give it 8
[06:28] <thegladiator> any one who listens to online music via browser ?
[06:28] <tatters> Is there a server status page for ubuntu update sources?
[06:28] <thegladiator> skazi_, 1-10?
[06:28] <CentHOGG> stability is fine, config is the b#tch
[06:28] <skazi_> ya
[06:28] <thegladiator> there is 1-10 also ?
[06:28] <thegladiator> i never knwe that
[06:28] <damo21> at the moment, im not happy with HAL in breezy, 0.5.3 has bugs
[06:29] <skazi_> 1 - 10
[06:29] <thegladiator> I see
[06:29] <skazi_> i say 8
[06:29] <CentHOGG> is there a way to remove ACPI altogether from the module loader?
[06:29] <skazi_> u?
[06:29] <thegladiator> oh...like that lol ...I say 7.5
[06:29] <skazi_> :>
[06:29] <skazi_> oki
[06:30] <thegladiator> but I have problems like video ploayer not working sometimes...
[06:30] <thegladiator> out of the blues and I have to restart X
[06:30] <damo21> i just installed a fresh breezy, plugged in 2 usb sticks and none of them will automount
[06:30] <thegladiator> yeah on breezy...
[06:30] <thegladiator> and sometimes when I play movie it quits X...
[06:30] <thegladiator> and have to log back in and it works fine...
[06:31] <thegladiator> I dont understand these probs...that where I cut the 2.5 really
[06:31] <ablomen> damo21, you have to install usbfs
[06:31] <tatters> same here ubuntu sometime automouts my usb tick/dive sometimes it wont
[06:31] <damo21> usbfs??
[06:31] <tatters> Kubuntu just syas no folder in /sda
[06:32] <damo21> its a bug, it tries to automount sda instead of sda1
[06:32] <ablomen> something like that
[06:32] <Stork> i keep getting a Segmentation Fault when trying to run nvclock.. any ideas anyone?
[06:32] <farous> Stork: do you have this probl only with nvclock
[06:33] <tatters> I get that bug with kubuntu darno but not ubuntu
[06:33] <Stork> farous, yes i do
[06:33] <damo21> you do not have to install usbfs
[06:33] <damo21> sif
[06:33] <tatters> nay I nvr had to
[06:33] <farous> Stork: than reinstall it if you can or update it it is just bad mem management
[06:34] <ablomen> whell it works for me, otherwise check google ;)
[06:34] <tatters> works out of the box 8/10 times :P
[06:34] <thegladiator> is real player 10 available in synaptic ?
[06:34] <Ng> no
[06:34] <Ng> it's fairly easy to install though
[06:34] <farous> thegladiator: download it from site
[06:34] <damo21> i have a feeling that they fixed the bug already in hal, but its taking a while to get into the breezy packages
[06:34] <tatters> Is there a server status page for ubuntu update sources?
[06:35] <farous> the shell runs non installation required
[06:35] <thegladiator> i have it installed but I dont know...there is some prolem
[06:35] <thegladiator> my browser doesnt detect it
[06:35] <thegladiator> I have installed it
[06:35] <farous> thegladiator: your browser is looking in your path for it and doesnot find it
[06:35] <Stork> farous, how would i do that?
[06:35] <farous> put it in your path
[06:36] <tatters> personally  I think in the installation there is tiny errors that go unoticed causing many problems
[06:36] <thegladiator> farous, let me try that
[06:36] <farous> Stork:  you have to search for it in the repos use synaptic
[06:36] <ablomen> thegladiator, you have to link the plugin to the /usr/share/mozilla-firefox/plugins folder, you should check where the realplayer plugin file is
[06:36] <damo21> for some reason, editing the fstab has bad consequences for automounting
[06:37] <tatters> I can reinstal same ubuntu same machine 3 times and get 3 different results
[06:37] <farous> thegladiator: the esiest way is to have a symbolic link to it in your /usr/bin dir
[06:37] <thegladiator> i cant understand actually
[06:37] <thegladiator> i cant do it prefernece ? FF ?
[06:37] <ablomen> thegladiator, otherwise you should try to install the vlc player with the mozilla vlc plugin
[06:37] <ablomen> that should work
[06:37] <thegladiator> it is installed in ~/programs/realplayer folder
[06:38] <tatters> my usb drive automount from bootup withou making any changes in a default ubuntu install
[06:38] <thegladiator> ablomen, this one requires real actually
[06:38] <idefix_> does flash for linux exist?
[06:38] <ompaul> !flash
[06:38] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:38] <thegladiator> idefix_, yes
[06:38] <thegladiator> ablomen, where can I find the plugin ?
[06:38] <ompaul> idefix_, read that ubotu stuff :)
[06:38] <ablomen> thegladiator, vlc does play real media files
[06:38] <thegladiator> ablomen, just check this site...
[06:38] <farous> ok make this sybmolic link ln -s $HOME/programs/realplayer/realplay /usr/bin/realplay
[06:38] <ablomen> iv seen it
[06:38] <thegladiator> ah
[06:39] <damo21> tatters: yes it worked for me, but then i edited fstab because i thought i needed to create a mount point, and then the automount feature was broken
[06:39] <thegladiator> it asks for real player only!
[06:39] <farous> thegladiator: and when you open the site just select it as the program to use
[06:39] <thegladiator> farous, I just type that in terminal once correct ?
[06:39] <farous> yap use tab completion to avoid spelling mistakes
[06:39] <thegladiator> yep
[06:39] <farous> try this also go to the realplayer folder > mozilla
[06:40] <farous> cp the nphelix plugin to your .mozilla/plugins dir
[06:40] <damo21> i think most of the problems in ubuntu arise from using sudo too much
[06:40] <tatters> but same as you on a clean kubuntu istall it trys to mount sda instead of sda1
[06:40] <damo21> its our own fault
[06:41] <ablomen> damo21, you can activate the root acount without any problems, so i dont see why the sudo thing is bad
[06:43] <tatters> so say I sudo nautalus and made some changes or copy n pasted over a file it could things because the new file will be owned by root?
[06:43] <tatters> is that Y sudo is bad?
[06:43] <damo21> yeah tatters exactly
[06:43] <tritium> tatters: sudo is not bad
[06:43] <tatters> k hmm so what should we do instead?
[06:43] <damo21> it might change permissions of .config files
[06:44] <Mabus06> Okay I'm pretty ticked and confused... I brought my second computer downstairs to use, and plugged in all of the stuff. Booted the comp up, and got to the grub screen to pick my OS. The default choice is windows and I wanted to use ubuntu, so I click up on the keyboard. The keyboard lights were on but it wasn't working. I realised I plugged it into the mouse port instead of the keyboard one. I switched it. Comp turned off. Wouldn'
[06:44] <p0windah> and to think that if you removed made ppl use sudo, and stopped them falling back on "root" this kind of thing would be avoided..
[06:44] <tatters> yep that seems logica damo so whats the correct procedure?
[06:44] <ablomen> Mabus06, are you using a logitech whireless keyboard?
[06:44] <damo21> sudo nautilus is BAD
[06:44] <tritium> tatters: we wouldn't recommend/use sudo if it were bad
[06:45] <p0windah> tatters: only use sudo if you need to perform some kind of system wide task
[06:45] <Mabus06> ablomen: no, that one was a dell keyboard.. the error happened when I plugged the wire into the kb thing instead of mouse.
[06:45] <tatters> ok so theres two opinions on this I take it
[06:45] <ompaul> p0windah, that line that started "and to think" has to be the finest troll I have seen in a long time :)
[06:45] <ablomen> ok
[06:45] <p0windah> I try my best
[06:45] <damo21> if u use xubuntu, sudo nautilus gives u a gnome desktop instead of xfce!
[06:46] <Mabus06> tatters: in the ubuntu community there really is only one view on it, that sudo is good. It's a pretty fundamental thing for ubuntu so if you don't like it you probably use another distro.
[06:46] <thegladiator> farous, the first method didnt work it seems
[06:46] <p0windah> well no, sudo is not entirely good
[06:46] <tatters> no its not a case of liking it , I want to best practice
[06:46] <thegladiator> link was made and I can acess it from terminal by typing realplay farous
[06:46] <farous> thegladiator: no spelling mistakes try typing realplay in a terminal
[06:47] <p0windah> Mabus06: you go around saying that, and whenever he uses "rm" he will predicate it with sudo; because its easier..
[06:47] <ablomen> i dont agree, just log into my root account and dont use sudo but still i like ubuntu verry much
[06:47] <thegladiator> farous, rp can be launched from teminal , symbolic link was made
[06:47] <damo21> sudo isnt good, its essential.... but it should only be used when you need to do admin tasks
[06:47] <thegladiator> farous, i restarted moz
[06:47] <thegladiator> farous, trying second methiod
[06:47] <farous> thegladiator: ok
[06:47] <thegladiator> farous, where do I copy ?
[06:48] <tatters> well I always use sudo nautilus to copy n paste files and edit
[06:48] <farous> to .mozilla/plugins/
[06:48] <thegladiator> farous, .mozilla I dont see plugin folder ...I see FF folder
[06:48] <thegladiator> create it ?
[06:48] <tatters> so am I doing it right?
[06:48] <farous> thegladiator: than make it
[06:48] <farous> .mozilla/plugins
[06:48] <damo21> tatters, it just means that its using the nautilus config from the root account
[06:49] <tank__> how do i create a guest account on ubuntu with no password
[06:49] <thegladiator> farous, yep
[06:49] <jblack> Whats the package cutoff date for Dapper?
[06:49] <joachim-n> can anyone suggest an ftp server? anything. I just need to test accessing one
[06:49] <farous> the plugins in the realplayer folder under mozilla subfolder either copy or make symbolic link
[06:49] <farous> i prefer the latter
[06:49] <thegladiator> firefox searched for plugins in ./mozilla/plugins or ./mozilla/firefox/plugins maybe ?
[06:49] <Ng> jblack: the wiki has the release schedule, but upstream version freeze has happened already
[06:49] <Ox0000> joachim-n, a software? protftpd, a server: ftp://mirror.switch.ch
[06:50] <damo21> tatters: so if u change your default icons/theme, it switches to the root config
[06:50] <tank__> how do i create a guest account on ubuntu with no password
[06:50] <jblack> Ng: I'm not upstream. :)
[06:50] <thegladiator> I copied it actually...to ./mozilla/plugins wondering if it shud be placed to /mozilla/firefox/plugin though
[06:50] <DCCOLE> update to breezy
[06:50] <tatters> yep I think I understand that and its potential consequences as u explained them but Y therefore am I told if ya dont like it go elsewhere
[06:50] <thegladiator> farous, ^
[06:50] <farous> tank__: man sudo adduser
[06:50] <DCCOLE> and change the Sources.list
[06:50] <Mabus06> p0windah: if he was doing rm as root, it would be the same thing no?
[06:50] <farous> do not give him a passward
[06:51] <Ng> jblack: it depends what the package and which repository, but if it's not in already then you'll need an exception to get it in afaik
[06:51] <DCCOLE> update to breezy
[06:51] <tank__> thanks
[06:51] <Ng> jblack: the rules are slacker for universe/multiverse
[06:51] <thegladiator> farous, shud I kill X and get back ? or just FF retsrt wud do ?
[06:51] <damo21> tatters... just ignore that
[06:51] <tatters> what kinda atttitude is that lol im only trying to learn not to break my ubuntu and best practice
[06:51] <farous> nope thegladiator just .mozilla/plugins
[06:51] <joachim-n> Ox0000, thanks :)
[06:51] <farous> thegladiator: just close all firefox
[06:51] <Ox0000> joachim-n, np
[06:51] <jblack> Ng: Thanks for the info
[06:51] <thegladiator> yep
[06:52] <farous> thegladiator: which firefox you are using
[06:52] <thegladiator> farous, 1.5
[06:52] <damo21> i just wish there was a way to reset my settings to factory default
[06:52] <damo21> lol
[06:52] <Gyuszk> re
[06:52] <thegladiator> farous, thats gonna be a prob  now ?
[06:52] <farous> thegladiator: did you grab the java and flash plugins too
[06:52] <farous> thegladiator: nope just wondering
[06:52] <tatters> so if I sudo su psswd I can create a root account?
[06:53] <j2daosh> tatters
[06:53] <j2daosh> no
[06:53] <Ng> !root
[06:53] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:53] <j2daosh> sudo passwd
[06:53] <ownerx> sudo -i
[06:53] <j2daosh> then set the pw and that is your root pass
[06:53] <DCCOLE> i need to upgrad from hoary to breezy
[06:53] <tritium> tatters, please read that wiki page from ubotu
[06:53] <tatters> k thnx
[06:53] <damo21> i just use sudo -i
[06:53] <tritium> !breezyupgrade
[06:53] <ubotu> I guess breezyupgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:53] <j2daosh> i just use sudo -s
[06:53] <j2daosh> :P
[06:54] <bur[n] er> anyone around who is familiar with using xserver-xgl in dapper?
[06:54] <tritium> DCCOLE: see above URL
[06:54] <damo21> what is -s??
[06:54] <thegladiator> farous, java is working , I did it for 1.07 actually and it works here
[06:54] <Ng> -i is better than -s
[06:54] <farous> thegladiator: great
[06:54] <Ng> -s will preserve your environment, which you most likely don't want
[06:54] <thegladiator> farous, thanks
[06:54] <damo21> ohhhh i much prefer -s
[06:54] <farous> is it working now
[06:54] <thegladiator> environment is better with -i
[06:55] <tritium> rightm, Ng
[06:55] <thegladiator> but -s is also close ! :)
[06:55] <ownerx> i just installed dapper
[06:55] <farous> thegladiator: if you still have probs install the mozilla-mplayer package and copy the plugins
[06:55] <damo21> but i like my default aliases... sudo -s is cool
[06:55] <ompaul> damo21, ehh you asked what is -s then say you prefer it - u trolling?
[06:55] <thegladiator> farous, copy to where but ?
[06:55] <farous> ownerx: how is it going so far and how is the fglrx drivers doing
[06:55] <ownerx> i didnt install fglrx yet farous lol
[06:56] <damo21> i guess u learn something every day ompaul
[06:56] <ownerx> im using radeon driver
[06:56] <damo21> :)
[06:56] <DCCOLE> i need to change my sources.list
[06:56] <ownerx> but ppl say it works
[06:56] <ownerx> dapper is nice and fast
[06:56] <bosco> what is the device name for the thumbdrives in ubuntu
[06:56] <ompaul> ownerx, it works on dapper the prerelease in development version of Ubuntu that will be operational in April
[06:56] <tatters> usbdisk I think
[06:56] <|alpha> hi together - need help
[06:56] <thegladiator> farous, that works actually . thanks a lot :-)
[06:57] <|alpha> want to install xmms for my ubuntu
[06:57] <farous> thegladiator: great take care than
[06:57] <ablomen> lol i hope dapper works bether installed than while installing, im getting al sorts of errors about missing icons ;)
[06:57] <|alpha> i'm a newby - installed ubunt yesterday
[06:57] <damo21> does anyone know if the ATI drivers are improved for radeon 9800pro since breezy was released?
[06:57] <|alpha> need libgc
[06:57] <farous> ownerx: i heared there are some probs with the new kernel
[06:57] <cannibal> anybody have any experience installing teamspeak on ubuntu?
[06:57] <|alpha> apt-get does'nt work
[06:57] <Ng> ablomen: dapper is not released yet...
[06:57] <ompaul> |alpha, don't try to build from source on ubuntu :-)
[06:57] <Ng> ablomen: it will work better when it's released, until then you are playing with fire
[06:58] <ownerx> farous, ati released new drivers a week ago that fix 2.6.15 freeze
[06:58] <ompaul> |alpha, it has almost 20k ready to go packages
[06:58] <|alpha> gcc won't work anyway :(
[06:58] <ablomen> Ng, i know that dont worrie, i like to live on the edge ;)
[06:58] <cannibal> lol
[06:58] <farous> great ownerx seems is getting better thanks :)
[06:58] <tritium> |alpha: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:58] <|alpha> tritium thx
[06:58] <ownerx> yes farous, maybe we can multiple gdm logins fixed in next fglrx
[06:58] <ownerx> lol
[06:58] <bosco> I need to know the default device name for a flash drive so i can mount it. i tried sda sdb hda hdb... where is it? any ideas?
[06:58] <tritium> |alpha: sure.  That's a common question :)
[06:58] <cannibal> can somebody help me installing teamspeak X_X
[06:59] <|alpha> where can i get all lists of files which i can get through apt
[06:59] <damo21> are the drivers still crap for ati? should i sell my 9800 and get nvidia 6600LE?
[06:59] <bliss> hello all
[06:59] <ompaul> |alpha, it has to be installed with sudo apt-get install build-essential - however for your xmms >>sudo apt-get install xmms<<
[06:59] <cannibal> I want to run a server on ubantu
[06:59] <axiom> I'm having trouble compiling a package that requires the Qt libraries, what is the name of the package containing the library files i need? i'm having trouble figuring out what to install
[06:59] <tatters> bosco its normally in /media/usbdisk
[06:59] <tatters> well tis mine
[06:59] <|alpha> ompaul, will try it :)
[06:59] <bosco> i am using e17. no automount
[06:59] <farous> thegladiator: for future ref all installed plugins go to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins dir
[06:59] <bosco> i need to manually mount
[07:00] <bliss> how to check if I Acan access ssh my box --cannot do it here from my local host
[07:00] <bosco> which means i need to know the dev name
[07:00] <ompaul> damo21, the ati web page tells you all about that - as to ratings have a look there was a big change in november
[07:00] <|alpha> apt says no installation pakets (it's german)
[07:01] <farous> eh that would be a dream owner x. there is a workaround though multiple logins work in the nested mode so gdmflexiserver -n works perfectly here
[07:01] <|alpha> now i use "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:01] <|alpha> then i will try it again
[07:01] <polochon> hi
[07:01] <bosco> tatter do you know anything
[07:01] <|alpha> it's my first time on linux/ubuntu :)
[07:01] <Baby> hey an alle
[07:01] <polochon> i Search to have "libstdc++.so.5", but i don't understand how it work
[07:01] <g-thunder> ok
[07:02] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Please help me! How can I make a boot floppy and boot cd for Ubuntu with Grub ?
[07:02] <tatters> Welll yes I know many things jsut not a great deal about Ubuntu :P
[07:02] <axiom> anyone know what the package name for qt3 development files are? the configure script i'm running claims it can't find them
[07:02] <tatters> let me check what is says on my box ith my usb drive
[07:02] <dli> ltibor65, you can do, "grub-install /dev/sda"
[07:02] <bosco> tatters thank you
[07:02] <Baby> hab mal eine frage wie betrete ich andere channel
[07:02] <tritium> axiom: try "apt-cache search libqt | grep dev"
[07:03] <polpak> ltibor65, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html#q4
[07:03] <|alpha> still problems -> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[07:03] <ltibor65> dli, what is sda?
[07:03] <polochon> I want to exec a file but there is one error : miss libstdc++.so.5, how have and install it plz? google doesn't help me.. :(
[07:03] <axiom> tritium: that returns four candidates, the only reasonable sounding one was one i've already installed, and it didn't fix it
[07:04] <Baby> wie komm ich in eine anderen channel kann mir einer helfen?
[07:04] <tritium> |alpha: you don't have -dev libraries installed that you need
[07:04] <|alpha> sudo apt-get install xmms won't work either
[07:04] <tritium> !de
[07:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:04] <dli> ltibor65, like boot usb
[07:04] <|alpha> tritium, how can i do?
[07:04] <tritium> |install the packages you need
[07:04] <axiom> tritium: on second inspection, i apparently installed a very similar package =X thnkas
[07:04] <|alpha> i installed make
[07:04] <|alpha> and all other's
[07:05] <tritium> axiom: :)
[07:05] <|alpha> but tritium thx anyway
[07:05] <|alpha> my german is better will try it in #ubuntu-de
[07:05] <tritium> |alpha: you need libglib, from your error
[07:05] <|alpha> tritium, yes i have the source code
[07:05] <|alpha> but gcc won't work
[07:05] <tritium> |alpha: install the libglib2.0-dev package
[07:05] <polpak> polochon, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[07:05] <axiom> tritium: hrmph, still didnt take
[07:05] <|alpha> how?
[07:05] <tritium> |alpha: gcc will work if you installed build-essential
[07:05] <|alpha> ahh
[07:05] <axiom> tritium: "checking for Qt... ls: /lib/libqt*: No such file or directory
[07:05] <|alpha> :)
[07:06] <|alpha> how can i get libglib2.0 through apt?
[07:06] <tritium> |alpha: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[07:06] <tatters> sda
[07:06] <polpak> axiom, most likely those will be in /usr/lib
[07:06] <axiom> polpak: i was just typing that, heh
[07:06] <tritium> axiom: sorry...
[07:06] <|alpha> where can i get a list of all packes available through apt?
[07:07] <ownerx> the xchat-gnome in dapper sucks
[07:07] <axiom> tritium and polpak: hrmph, off to mess with some stuff
[07:07] <ownerx> lol
[07:07] <polpak> |alpha, go into synaptic
[07:07] <axiom> tritium: thanks
[07:07] <axiom> polpak: thanks
[07:07] <ltibor65> dli, to me is sda a winchester, but not the first.
[07:07] <tritium> |alpha: apt-cache search <search_term> can be very useful.  You can also try synaptic
[07:07] <andy_> heya ppl
[07:07] <|alpha> don't want to use a gui :)
[07:07] <tritium> axiom: don't forget to enable universe and multiverse for even more choices
[07:07] <Seveas> !dapper
[07:07] <ubotu> [dapper]  the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[07:07] <|alpha> but libglib is false
[07:08] <|alpha> apt don't find it
[07:08] <andy_> can some help me to install nmap plz
[07:08] <Seveas> |alpha, libglib2.0
[07:08] <tritium> |alpha: it's in the repos
[07:08] <|alpha> ah
[07:08] <Seveas> and for compiling: libglib2.0-dev
[07:08] <tritium> that's what I told him, Seveas
[07:08] <Seveas> tritium, I just dropped in 
[07:08] <|alpha> "E: Konnte Paket libglib2.0 nicht finden"
[07:08] <|alpha> not found it says
[07:09] <tritium> Seveas: :)  (Hello, by the way!)
[07:09] <ownerx> !restricted
[07:09] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:09] <polpak> andy_, sudo apt-get install nmap
[07:09] <tritium> |alpha: don't forget the "-dev" at the end
[07:09] <andy_> can any1 help me install nmap plz
[07:09] <|alpha> ok
[07:09] <tatters> I jst installed ubuntu created a source list with automaic list creator, 2 problems Y are half the repos not vailable and Y do I get unsafe keymessage  when I run the commands that are given in advice
[07:09] <andy_> ive downloaded namp but i need help installing it
[07:09] <polpak> andy_, sudo apt-get install nmap
[07:10] <|alpha> apt-get install libglib2.0-dev still brings an "not found"
[07:10] <polpak> andy_, will download and install it
[07:10] <tritium> !info libglib2.0-dev
[07:10] <bosco> 
[07:10] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: (Development files for the GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 482 kB, Installed size: 1908 kB
[07:10] <tritium> it's there, as you can see, |alpha
[07:10] <Seveas> bosco, words help 
[07:10] <|alpha> yes i see
[07:10] <Baby> och menno wieso geht das nicht :-(
[07:10] <Seveas> Baby, #ubuntu-de fuer deutsch bitte
[07:10] <andy_> i got nmap-4.01-1.i386.rpm
[07:10] <tritium> it's in the main repo, further, |alpha, so you should be able to install it
[07:11] <Baby> sry
[07:11] <|alpha> tritium, thx for ur effort will talk german in #ubuntu-de :)
[07:11] <polpak> andy_, delete it and sudo apt-get install nmap
[07:11] <tritium> andy_: don't use the rpm
[07:11] <ownerx> why does dapper kernel use preempt now?
[07:11] <ownerx> thats interesting
[07:11] <polpak> andy_, as I've said 3 times now
[07:11] <tritium> |alpha: okay :)
[07:11] <bosco> 
[07:11] <andy_> oh i c
[07:11] <topyli> andy_: please don't download software from around the web like windows users have to do
[07:11] <andy_> ty :)
[07:12] <tritium> andy_: follow polpak's advice please
[07:12] <Seveas> poor windows users - so much trouble 
[07:12] <ZePlastic> good after noon
[07:12] <tatters> Is there a server status page for ubuntu update sources?
[07:12] <andy_> kk ty :)
[07:12] <ZePlastic> I think this is the right place to ask for help
[07:13] <topyli> ZePlastic: yes
[07:13] <ZePlastic> I wont to make a NAS from an old PC...
[07:13] <tritium> not sure what your question means, tatters
[07:13] <ZePlastic> do you sugest something
[07:13] <ZePlastic> ?
[07:13] <ltibor65> Seveas, how can I make boot floppy for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <ZePlastic> please?
[07:14] <tatters> Well I just made a clean install of ubuntu used the automatic source list creator and now it will download security updates
[07:14] <tatters> wont download security update^
[07:14] <tatters> I jst installed ubuntu created a source list with automaic list creator, 2 problems Y are half the repos not vailable and Y do I get unsafe keymessage  when I run the commands that are given in advice
[07:14] <tritium> which automatic list creator?
[07:15] <ownerx> !easysource
[07:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:15] <tatters> I dunno one that was posted in room
[07:15] <tatters> yah tha one
[07:15] <Seveas> tatters, apt-get update
[07:15] <tritium> tatters: do you not have the breezy-security repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:16] <axiom> so qt was installed to /usr/lib, but the configure i'm running expects qt to be in /lib, any ideas where to go from here? is there a way to duplicate the install to /lib?
[07:16] <Seveas> tatters, and for the missing keys: did you actually READ the page?
[07:16] <topyli> ZePlastic: a file server? if you have windows clients, just set up a samba server with huge storage space
[07:16] <Seveas> or the sources.list it generates...
[07:16] <tatters> yes I have them all down to where it said warning then stopped
[07:16] <polpak> axiom, I believe you can tell it where to find qt.
[07:16] <polpak> axiom, btw, what program are you trying to compile?
[07:16] <axiom> qcomicbook
[07:17] <tatters> I ran the two commands in the advice and got key unsfe warning  in termial
[07:17] <axiom> i didn't find it in apt, nor a replacement that i knew of
[07:17] <DCCOLE> i need to updat sources.list
[07:17] <damo21> Seveas: is there a backport to upgrade hal? my usb stick is giving me trouble
[07:17] <angelete_> hi
[07:17] <ZePlastic> topyli: it's a mixed envoirement, Win and MAC OS
[07:17] <DCCOLE> but i dont know the website on ubuntu
[07:17] <angelete_> i have a very BIG problem
[07:18] <ZePlastic> and I need a RAID
[07:18] <topyli> axiom: you can usually tell the config scripts where libraries are. try .configure --help
[07:18] <angelete_> i have  a unbuntu host with RAID 1
[07:18] <axiom> topyli: thanks, giving that s hot
[07:18] <angelete_> but now it doesn't boot properly
[07:19] <topyli> ZePlastic: for talking to those machines, samba is the one. i can't really recommend any raid solutions, i don't know much
[07:19] <ompaul> DCCOLE, what do you want to update them with/to?
[07:19] <ZePlastic> topyli do you know PizzaBox?
[07:19] <topyli> axiom: since you're compiling against qt, are you sure you have the -dev packages?
[07:20] <spz2> my computer still isnt working with the ubuntu install
[07:20] <tatters> You can do this with the following commands (replace KEY with the key ID) <----do u mean read that bit seveas?
[07:20] <topyli> ZePlastic: yes, many :)
[07:20] <ZePlastic> LOL
[07:20] <axiom> topyli: i was asking about that earlier, i have libqt3-mt-dev
[07:20] <ZePlastic> not that kind of Pizza...
[07:20] <spz2> and its really frustrating because i cant even boot windows at this point
[07:20] <spz2> and i dont want to wipe my hd AGAIN
[07:21] <topyli> axiom: ok then, maybe the config script is confused
[07:21] <ZePlastic> topyli this one http://www.jrcs.co.uk/
[07:21] <axiom> topyli: among others. i also changed the library setting on the config, and it found it, but now its complaining about other things with qt
[07:21] <ZePlastic> just as an example...
[07:21] <spz2> and I'd like to fix it today
[07:21] <DCCOLE> i want update them so i can use apt-get and install Anjuta
[07:21] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to enable the cool things of compiz after apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz ??
[07:21] <DCCOLE> I had the site for the WIKI but i lost it
[07:21] <h0me5k1n> can someone help with with a query about setting up wireless?
[07:22] <MartinSco> hi, on my breezy-box  fetchmail gets the mails; but in cyrus/imap the are not there? Where puts fetchmail the mails?
[07:22] <h0me5k1n> i'm having a problem with ralink rt61 drivers
[07:22] <topyli> ZePlastic: seems nice. small, unintrusive servers
[07:22] <bur[n] er> MartinSco: man fetchmail? :)
[07:22] <spz2> can somebody help me with the install?
[07:22] <DCCOLE> The site had a demo of a source.list
[07:22] <ompaul> !tell DCCOLE about universe
[07:22] <ompaul> DCCOLE, read the message from ubotu
[07:23] <topyli> axiom: maybe you need to pass --prefix=/usr to the script and it will look for everything in the right place
[07:23] <ZePlastic> topyli, but or any one else have a sugestion for my quest??!!
[07:23] <spz2> is this the best place to get ubuntu help?  the wiki and ubuntuhelp.org dont address my problem
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> spz2,  glad to hear you went there first. :P now ya can try here.
[07:24] <axiom> topyli: yea, the option this script uses is --with-Qt-dir=, however its complaining now about a missing file, bnv_qt_test.c to be exact
[07:24] <SirKillalot> do you know a good screen capture program beside istanbul?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> spz2,  you also checked out the Forums I assume. :P
[07:24] <spz2> yeah
[07:24] <trappist> SirKillalot: I use import from imagemagick
[07:24] <spz2> mainly just questions, without answers
[07:24] <axiom> topyli: so i'm on a google hunt for it currently
[07:24] <mtgh> What is a good package to select a network for wireless network, (show all in range) etc.....
[07:24] <trappist> SirKillalot: as in import -window root shot.png
[07:24] <ablomen> hi, iv just updated my ubuntu box to dapper and it kinda works but my nvidia drivers dont work, is there a way to fix this or work around it (as in do something else to keep 3d support)?
[07:25] <trappist> mtgh: I use kwifimanager, but that's for kde
[07:25] <MartinSco> bur[n] er: there is written : mail will be delivered to local MDA; I find nothing in the log; I have no idea where to search!
[07:25] <polpak> !dapper
[07:25] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[07:25] <tatters> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:25] <ablomen> the nv driver does the job but it would be kinda nice if i could play et etc ;)
[07:25] <bur[n] er> MartinSco: I think it depends on how you run fetchmail where it delivers to... it could be a Maildir
[07:25] <SirKillalot> trappist, i meant a video recording tool
[07:25] <SirKillalot> ;)
[07:25] <tatters> whats thats MDF5sum mismatch mean how can I fix it?
[07:26] <trappist> ablomen: for some reason in dapper the nvidia drivers get installed to the wrong place.  I had to make copies/symlinks.  I probably should have documented where they were, and where I had to put them, but I didn't.
[07:26] <bur[n] er> tatters: redownload or reburn
[07:26] <tatters> what?
[07:26] <spz2> I need to repair my ubuntu install... I am running dual=boot with XP, have ubuntu installed at mount point '/' on primary partition #2 (Ext3) of hda1
[07:26] <spz2> windows on ntfs part #1 of hda1
[07:26] <tatters> its when im trying to get a security update
[07:27] <spz2> grub installed on sector 0 of hd0
[07:27] <ablomen> trappist, lol thanks atleast there's hope
[07:27] <tatters> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:27] <spz2> but now when it boots, i get grub error #15 -- file not found
[07:27] <tatters> cannot update apt-get
[07:27] <trappist> ablomen: I think it's related to the move to X11R7 and the new modularized xorg
[07:27] <polpak> spz2, hda1 is the first primary partition on the first ide disk
[07:28] <axiom> topyli: apparently they made a ubuntu package already >:O curse my inferior google skills
[07:28] <polpak> spz2, so your statement "have ubuntu installed at mount point '/' on primary partition #2 (Ext3) of hda1" seems self contradictory
[07:28] <trappist> ablomen: I *can* tell you that you're looking for libGL.so* and libGLcore.so*
[07:28] <trappist> ablomen: and I *think* I ended up putting mine in /usr/lib
[07:28] <MartinSco> bur[n] er: Found ! The Mialdir is /var/mail/$user! But how to bring mails to cyrus?
[07:29] <topyli> axiom: usually there is an ubuntu package that has what you need. almost all free software is in ubuntu/debian
[07:29] <ablomen> trappist, ok i think i can handle that ;) thanks for the help
[07:29] <tatters> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/tatters/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[07:30] <axiom> topyli: yea, the problem is its not in the main repositories
[07:30] <Mitario> hello everyone, does anyone know of the wine-preloader problem?
[07:30] <topyli> axiom: sometimes
[07:30] <trappist> ah, the old wine-preloader problem.
[07:31] <axiom> topyli: well, by main i mean its not in any of the official repositories, so i have to install an unverifiable package, which i dislike having to do. whatever though, i can read my comics now
[07:31] <spz2> i am going crazy trying to set up this install!  its been nothing but buggy the whole way
[07:31] <axiom> topyli: (second week using ubuntu, things are still rather new to me)
[07:32] <Mitario> trappist, yeah, is there someway to solve it?
[07:32] <tatters> anyone know what going wrong with my updating security packages?
[07:33] <mama> what's up
[07:33] <topyli> axiom: if apt doesn't know about the provider of the package, it will complain. it's just a heads-up
[07:33] <tatters> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:33] <tatters> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/tatters/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[07:35] <tatters> has the well been poisened :P
[07:35] <rickster> samba
[07:35] <mtgh> I need a wireless connection manger for gnome, trappist
[07:36] <tatters> kiwi i think is one of those
[07:36] <jodanlime> does anybody know if you can set mplayer to repeat a movie over and over again?
[07:36] <thegladiator> mozilla-chatzilla:
[07:36] <thegladiator>   Depends: mozilla-browser (=2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:36] <thegladiator> i am trying to install chatzilla
[07:36] <_jason> jodanlime: man mplayer, you can use the '-loop 0' option
[07:36] <bur[n] er> MartinSco: i honestly don't know how to deliver it
[07:36] <thegladiator> it says make sure that you have all repo's added and enabled
[07:37] <jodanlime> _jason, thanks man
[07:37] <xerophyte> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.182)]  hangs any mrror down ???
[07:37] <fit4lfe> I installed dapper and now I can not get xwindows back on
[07:37] <fit4lfe> can someone help me
[07:37] <thegladiator> jodanlime, it open the movie player again actually
[07:37] <kent> xerophyte: the same problem for me in sweden.  Seems the server is down for a while
[07:37] <thegladiator> jodanlime, I guess
[07:37] <fit4lfe> I have a nvidia driver
[07:38] <_jason> fit4lfe: do you understand that dapper is a development version and breaks?
[07:38] <thegladiator> jodanlime, talking about mplayer from terminal though
[07:38] <fit4lfe> the error not reading the mouse
[07:38] <thegladiator> _jason, mozilla-chatzilla:
[07:38] <thegladiator>   Depends: mozilla-browser (=2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:38] <fit4lfe> says its not there at all
[07:38] <mama> anybody knows my pw to hotmail account?
[07:38] <thegladiator> can you explain why I am not getting ?
[07:38] <mama> )
[07:38] <mama> :)
[07:38] <fit4lfe> !dapper
[07:38] <ubotu> dapper is, like, totally, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[07:38] <tatters> I cannot get any security updates
[07:38] <thegladiator> mamaisafool ? :)
[07:38] <mama> uhuh yes
[07:38] <thegladiator> lol
[07:38] <fit4lfe> !dapper drake
[07:38] <ubotu> methinks dapper drake is the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper
[07:39] <tatters> there need to be some sort of web based status page for sources
[07:39] <thegladiator> cab someone explain this error ?
[07:39] <thegladiator> i amtrying to install chatzilla
[07:39] <_jason> thegladiator: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[07:40] <thegladiator> yepp
[07:40] <_jason> tatters: what errors are you getting?
[07:40] <tatters> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:40] <thegladiator> !paste
[07:40] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:41] <fit4lfe> can anyone tell me how to get xwindows to work with dapper
[07:41] <fit4lfe> using a nvidia driver
[07:41] <tatters> I didnt paste that I wrote it out
[07:41] <_jason> tatters: try commenting all of the repositories in your sources.list, apt-get update, uncommenting, apt-get update
[07:41] <jodanlime> thegladiator, yeah, I got that, thanks
[07:41] <CryoTox> How do I get Ubuntu to stop trying to update my clock on boot up?
[07:42] <tatters> k jason
[07:42] <jodanlime> lol, mplayer tells me that my machine is too slow to play this file, but it plays perfectly on it
[07:42] <avalost> Ok say i bork my system up and i've got like 40 GB of music and stuff that's not backed up.. is there an easy way to creat a partition move all my music and files I want to save then wipe free space and do a fresh install?
[07:42] <thegladiator> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8746
[07:42] <_jason> avalost: gparted on a livecd maybe
[07:42] <trappist> Mitario: I don't actually know what you're talking about.  maybe you could describe the specific problem.
[07:42] <tatters> I also get this gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/tatters/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[07:43] <Mitario> trappist, there is some bug in the kernel, i hope to see an upload soon :)
[07:43] <tatters> I used the automatic source list tool
[07:43] <CryoTox> Anyway?
[07:44] <trappist> CryoTox: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[07:45] <_jason> thegladiator: what does apt-cache policy mozilla-browser say
[07:46] <thegladiator> _jason, paste it ?
[07:46] <_jason> thegladiator: on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:46] <thegladiator> _jason, ok
[07:46] <John_M> Hello???
[07:46] <_jason> John_M: hi
[07:46] <oklinux> any one having printer problem with ubuntu I need help with one
[07:46] <_jason> tatters: what does ls -l /home/tatters/.gnupg/gpg.conf, say?
[07:46] <John_M> Hi
[07:47] <oklinux> hp laserjet p 6p it tested fine in xp but not in ubuntu show not connected.
[07:47] <thegladiator> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8748
[07:48] <thegladiator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8747 has the screenshot also for the synaptic error msg
[07:48] <thegladiator> _jason, ^
[07:48] <CryoTox> trappist: Thanks
[07:49] <oklinux> trappist can you help me on my printer problem ?
[07:49] <_jason> thegladiator: add universe and multiverse to lines 11 and 12 in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:49] <trappist> oklinux: no, because I don't know what it is
[07:49] <thegladiator> _jason, to each line ?
[07:49] <petef> hi guys
[07:49] <_jason> thegladiator: yeah just add " universe multiverse" at the end of each
[07:49] <oklinux> is a hp laserjet 6p the printer tested fine in windows not in ubuntu
[07:50] <petef> anyone know much about compact flash cards ?
[07:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell petef about anyone
[07:50] <trappist> oklinux: I'd need more information than that, but I'm not your best bet for printer troubleshooting.  I'm just not very good at it.
[07:50] <oklinux> ok thanks
[07:51] <petef> sorry is that question a problem ?
[07:51] <C-O-L-T> does exist a cool Linux magazine like PcWorld
[07:51] <C-O-L-T> ?
[07:51] <trappist> oklinux: somebody who does know about it would need to know how it's connected, what you've tried, how you're testing, etc.
[07:51] <trappist> C-O-L-T: linux journal
[07:51] <jke> hi... could it be true that X is broken in dapper? just made a dist-upgrade and restarted, and havn't been able to start X since
[07:51] <trappist> jke: nvidia drivers?
[07:51] <C-O-L-T> trappist: thanks
[07:51] <tatters> -rw-------  1 tatters tatters 8084 2006-02-16 17:07 /home/tatters/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[07:51] <jke> trappist no, ATI
[07:52] <_jason> jke: someone was just in here who couldn't start X, he ahd nvidia though
[07:52] <jodanlime> C-O-L-T, linux format is pretty good
[07:52] <petef> the compact flash is a kingston 256mb card but I can't see 256 when I load it ?
[07:52] <trappist> jke: ah, pretty much the same problem.  the GL drivers get installed to the wrong place.
[07:52] <jke> okay :/
[07:52] <tatters> I done the other thing jason it seems stuck at 99% getting headers
[07:52] <oklinux> it connected to parallel
[07:52] <trappist> tatters: that mey be because the security updates mirror is down
[07:53] <FlyingSquirrel32> how do I make a program be run on boot?
[07:53] <jouni__m> petef how much do you see?
[07:53] <trappist> FlyingSquirrel32: mkdir a directory /etc/rc.boot if it doesn't exist and put a script in there
[07:53] <tatters> not it says connection failed
[07:53] <SaLoMoN> re
[07:53] <tatters> now it says connection failed
[07:53] <petef> u can add something to the boot by adding it to sessions
[07:53] <thegladiator> _jason, thanks that works
[07:54] <trappist> tatters: the security mirror is down.  that's probably the failed connection.
[07:54] <Earthen> anyone here ever setup dansguardian
[07:54] <tatters> ha ok thnx
[07:54] <trappist> Earthen: I have.  it's fairly easy.
[07:54] <psycose> hi all, i've made an Ubuntu install for a boss, all works fine except his old printer. Now i must tell him what printer to buy (perfectly supported on Ubuntu) please advise me (i don't what some multimedia printer, just a good one), some tells HP?
[07:54] <trappist> psycose: word on the street is hp is the way to go for linux
[07:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell psycose about print
[07:54] <petef> I use a HP5150 over wireless works great
[07:54] <_jason> psycose: make sure you check out those sites, but yes I ahve heard good things about hp
[07:54] <Earthen> trappist do you where I can edit the access denide page to something costum
[07:54] <tatters> that gpg error is it anything to worry about?
[07:54] <SAAD3000> How come i can connect to the internet thru xp/suse and not thru ubuntu and i configured ubuntu exactly like suse & xp, and it tells me about fixing my proxy?
[07:55] <ompaul> Earthen, long time no see, yes I have done so but only in its default way, what you need to do is hash out the line that says this file has not been edited or something like that near the top of the file
[07:55] <daryl-> security. is down?
[07:55] <_jason> tatters: your permissions seem fine, they are the same as mine
[07:55] <jouni__m> http://www.linuxprinting.org is generally good site for printers.
[07:55] <dle> security.ubuntu.com seems to be down. Any info?
[07:55] <tatters> k
[07:55] <_jason> dle: confirmation
[07:55] <trappist> Earthen: try dpkg -L dansguardian and see where the cgi pages are.  also I think that specific question is addressed on the website.
[07:55] <jke> xorg should work for dapper fligh 3, right?
[07:55] <dle> _jason: tks.
[07:55] <psycose> thanks all !
[07:55] <Earthen> ompaul hey how it going
[07:55] <jimmyx1> can anyone help me to start vmware installing? i've unpacked it, but not sure how to start the installation?
[07:55] <ompaul> Earthen, good
[07:56] <trappist> jke: not out of the box, if you use proprietary gl drivers
[07:56] <jouni__m> dle yes I think so at least for dapper
[07:56] <Earthen> ompaul O i have it all seup and is working fine
[07:56] <jke> Oh
[07:56] <trappist> jke: but you really shouldn't be using dapper if you don't know how to troubleshoot things like this
[07:56] <ompaul> Earthen, wrt dans as topyli said have a look around their web site for good docs
[07:56] <dle> Jimmyx1: are you using the tarball?
[07:56] <Earthen> ompaul what i want is to put the school Logo on the access denide page that comes up
[07:56] <ompaul> !dapper
[07:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[07:56] <SAAD3000> How come i can connect to the internet thru xp/suse and not thru ubuntu and i configured ubuntu exactly like suse & xp, and it tells me about fixing my proxy?
[07:57] <ompaul> Earthen, that is in the ordinary config file iirc
[07:57] <SAAD3000> guys help me out here.
[07:57] <daryl-> i installed acroread earlier and it just shows the splash screen then exits, has anyone experienced this?
[07:57] <feg> hello, i want remove an entry from the Places menu. which is the correct way to do it?
[07:57] <petef> looking for help on compact flash
[07:57] <beniamino> is it just me or is security.ubuntu.com inaccessible?
[07:57] <zyth> petef, what's your problem?
[07:57] <daryl-> beniamino: down
[07:57] <tatters> same here ben
[07:57] <dle> jouni__m: I assume it's one machine.   Anyway, running breezy here.
[07:57] <dle> beniamino - Not just you.
[07:57] <SAAD3000> beniamino irs int ACCESSSIBLE
[07:58] <foxgamer> Hi all. I have decided to return to ubuntu after having problems with the current distro, but I have a quick question. Is there compatibility with an ati radeon x300 card with the 64bit verson yet, does anyone know?
[07:58] <SAAD3000> its in*
[07:58] <SAAD3000> How come i can connect to the internet thru xp/suse and not thru ubuntu and i configured ubuntu exactly like suse & xp, and it tells me about fixing my proxy?
[07:58] <beniamino> zyth, daryl, dle: argh. thanks
[07:58] <zyth> SAAD3000, open a terminal, try and ping www.yahoo.com
[07:58] <Earthen> ompaul ok I'll look and see, I checked there web site and there is no mention on how to modify this page
[07:58] <SAAD3000> zyth nah i can't ping the oustide world
[07:58] <SAAD3000> i even can't ping my dns
[07:58] <SAAD3000> and my gw too.
[07:58] <zyth> SAAD3000, can you ping 127.0.0.1 ?
[07:58] <petef> zyth: got a kingston 256mb flash card we image them and run them on lex PC's but the size Im seeing isn't 256 they are set as ext2
[07:59] <ompaul> Earthen,  /etc/dansguardian/languages/ukenglish/template.html
[07:59] <ompaul> 
[07:59] <zyth> petef, on, you're writing an bootable image to the CF?
[07:59] <dle> maybe someone should put that in the topic, security being down.
[07:59] <SAAD3000> zyth yes i can also ping my ip
[07:59] <xerox_> Howdy!
[07:59] <petef> zyth: yes it's a bootable image
[08:00] <zyth> SAAD3000, put ifconfig's output on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:00] <SAAD3000> zyth i did let me give u the link
[08:00] <xerox_> I have a question: installing 'libnotify-bin' leads apt to REMOVE "evolution evolution-exchange evolution-plugins libnotify0 notify-daemon ubuntu-desktop", does it try to do the same on your dapper installations too?
[08:00] <zyth> SAAD3000, ok
[08:00] <zyth> petef, does it work? :)
[08:00] <xerox_> I do not like this behaviour.
[08:01] <tatters> dle: good idea woulda given me 4 hours of my life back
[08:01] <zyth> xerox, dapper is in development and likely to be broken.
[08:01] <petef> zyth: yes the image works but it uses almost all of the 256mb so I need all the size
[08:01] <ompaul> !dapper
[08:01] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[08:01] <andriijas> how do i change the keyboard layout in the console?
[08:01] <beniamino> is the breezy-security rep on security.ubuntu.com actually different from the one on archive.ubuntu.com?
[08:01] <Kovecses> can somebody point me to the ubuntu release schedule?
[08:01] <xerox_> zyth: I'd better avoid this kind of questions, then.  Thanks for the information.
[08:01] <beniamino> s/rep/repo/
[08:02] <zyth> petef, I am thinking that's a result of ext2.  I had a similar issue a while ago, but I can't tell you exactly what caused it.  Can you try another fs?
[08:02] <SAAD3000> zyth http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8624
[08:02] <petef> zyth: tried fat32 and ext3 but still no good
[08:03] <Kovecses> beniamino, to find out what repo your computer is using look in sources.list
[08:03] <zyth> weird :S
[08:03] <zyth> you partitioned the CF card?
[08:03] <jouni__m> oklinux what driver you are using?
[08:03] <cyphase> hmm, you can't use vino unless that X session is active..
[08:03] <daryl-> SAAD3000 can you ping the ns?
[08:03] <tatters> hmm it seems even some of the updates that are getting through are very slow
[08:03] <ompaul> Kovecses, for the next release it is 20th april after that it is october and the following april
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> Any news as to how long security.ubuntu.com will be down?
[08:03] <Kovecses> ompaul, thanks
[08:03] <SAAD3000> daryl- no also i cant ping it in suse and xp
[08:04] <zyth> SAAD3000, eth1 is pulling a 192.168 ip which ain't gonna go anywhere... is it connected to a DHCP server?
[08:04] <tatters> trust me to pick this time to do a clean install
[08:04] <SAAD3000> zyth no
[08:04] <petef> zyth: we normally have just inserted them and copied the image across, I haven't partitioned
[08:04] <beniamino> Kovecses: i know it's using security.ubuntu.com. i wondered if i could just switch to archive.ubuntu.com since it has a breezy-security section
[08:04] <zyth> SAAD3000, do you have to specify your own IP?
[08:04] <SAAD3000> zyth yes
[08:04] <SAAD3000> zyth my connection is Lan
[08:04] <logan77666> how to get right-click context menu without mouse ?
[08:04] <zyth> petef, you could try that.  No guarantees though, I am taking a shot in the dark here, I haven't had a similar issue since I used NetBSD on an old hpc.
[08:04] <SAAD3000> zyth i put my ip and gateway and dns and  i configure proxy and i get internet
[08:05] <zyth> SAAD3000, you haven't assigned a valid ip to eth1.
[08:05] <petef> zyth: no problem thanks for your suggestions
[08:05] <ompaul> logan77666, what do you actually want to achieve
[08:05] <SAAD3000> zyth I did, 192.168.20.70
[08:05] <Psi-Jack> Anyone? Any ideas how long security.ubuntu.com will be down?
[08:05] <p0windah> Cow_woC: reduce the length of class names for starters
[08:05] <tatters> logan works with windows not sure about ubuntu but it nxt to the ctrl key on right got a little arrow on it
[08:05] <daryl-> zyth: how is 192.168.20.70 invalid?
[08:05] <zyth> SAAD3000, 192.168.20.70 is *not* a valid external IP to connect to the internet.
[08:05] <SAAD3000> inet addr:192.168.20.70
[08:05] <zyth> oh wait
[08:05] <zyth> omg
[08:05] <zyth> I am so dumb
[08:05] <logan77666> I want to refrain from using mouse, that's all :)
[08:05] <SAAD3000> daryl- its my ip
[08:05] <daryl-> yes you are :P
[08:05] <zyth> I was thinking 169...
[08:06] <tatters> between window key and ctl on the right of k/board
[08:06] <ompaul> zyth, say sorry to the wall
[08:06] <zyth> sorrry wall.
[08:06] <tatters> yup works in ubuntu too
[08:06] <psycose> anyone got a  Samsung ML-1610?
[08:06] <logan77666> and this is probably last thing I have to find out how to use
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> !anyone
[08:06] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:06] <Kovecses> has anyone compiled their own kernel in breezy?
[08:06] <tatters> logan did u try that key?
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> psycose: Take a note.
[08:07] <ompaul> logan77666, I am not even going there - I do not know that such an activity is possible check in #gnome
[08:07] <zyth> !botsnack
[08:07] <ubotu> thanks zyth :)
[08:07] <SAAD3000> so no one can help?
[08:07] <ompaul> they may kill you for asking :) but I doubt it
[08:07] <tatters> between window key and ctl on the right of k/board  that key p[ulls up right click menu
[08:08] <psycose> anyone there got a  Samsung ML-1610, i want to know what driver they use and do they experience problem when printing documents with pictures ...
[08:08] <tatters> got a little arrow on it
[08:08] <logan77666> nope not yet
[08:08] <_jason> logan77666: you might be able to use xmacro to play back a button 2
[08:08] <tatters> works my end
[08:08] <logan77666> I've got it set for metacity to move windows around
[08:09] <LabThug> I'm using ubuntu for my desktop at work.  For the most part it works.  However, anytime I let an RDP Terminal Services Session go idle, I loose my mouse.  The only thing that I've seen to get it back it to restart X.  Has anyone else seen this and/or know a way to fix it?
[08:09] <logan77666> yeap I've got it - have to disable former use
[08:10] <logan77666> oH Yeah! :)
[08:10] <Kovecses> has anyone compiled their own kernel in breezy?
[08:10] <tatters> :)
[08:10] <cyphase> if you want to be able to VNC into a computer where the X session isn't the active session, you have to install a "real" VNC server, right?
[08:10] <ompaul> SAAD3000, let me look at that url for a moment
[08:10] <logan77666> awesome :) - thanks guys
[08:10] <cyphase> meaning, you can't do it with vino..
[08:10] <Earthen> trappist, ompaul, Tkanks guys got it all sorted out now that i found the page location
[08:10] <thegladiator> _jason, could you please look at these warnings i got from synaptic http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8749
[08:11] <_jason> thegladiator: security is down right now, comment those temporarily if you want
[08:11] <ompaul> SAAD3000, where is this url you pasted ifconfig into ?
[08:11] <SAAD3000> ompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8624
[08:11] <ompaul> thanks
[08:11] <tatters> now is not a good time to update
[08:11] <bside> hello
[08:11] <thegladiator> _jason, thanks
[08:11] <ompaul> SAAD3000, what kind of a device is upstream of the ubuntu box?
[08:12] <xerox_> Anybody knows how to get libsvg-cairo in ubuntu?  I can't find it _anywhere_  :-|
[08:12] <bside> i need help with ubuntu :)
[08:13] <Kovecses> bside, whats the prob
[08:13] <ompaul> bside, please ask a full question of the channel - we don't have any idea of we know anything aobut your current issue
[08:13] <SAAD3000> ompaul its Wireless network card
[08:13] <bside> Kovecses, is there a default password for root ?
[08:14] <bside> sounds crazy
[08:14] <prada_> bside: nope ...
[08:14] <LabThug> Does anyone in here use the Terminal Server Client?
[08:14] <Kovecses> bside, short answer ...... no
[08:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell bside about root
[08:14] <bside> ok. ill try my install pass
[08:14] <bside> itr wont work
[08:14] <bside> doesnt work
[08:14] <Kovecses> bside, what are you trying to do
[08:14] <beniamino> security.ubuntu.com is back... but seveas.ubuntulinux.nl is down too :-(
[08:14] <prada_> bsde: do a sudo -s first
[08:14] <funkyHat> bside, look at the message that ubotu sent you
[08:14] <_jason> bside: read what ubotu sent you about sudo
[08:14] <ompaul> SAAD3000, so you are connecting to a wireless card?
[08:15] <bside> working
[08:15] <bside> love you guys
[08:15] <ompaul> SAAD3000, sorry you are trying to connect to a wireless lan?
[08:15] <SAAD3000> ompaul no the eth1 that is configured with the 192.168.20.70 ip is the network card Broadcom network card
[08:15] <tatters> well whatta ya know he go told me to RTFM when I said I was having problems
[08:15] <bside> im, tring to install yahoo messenger
[08:16] <ompaul> SAAD3000, how do you know tht *.70 is available on your network and that it is not limited to say the bottom 4 ips?
[08:16] <SAAD3000> ompaul the wire is connected to a switch then to a router or bridge dunno then to a wireless device on the roof
[08:16] <bside> i got the debian package and is asking me for root
[08:16] <_jason> tatters: huh?
[08:16] <ompaul> SAAD3000, what is the ip of the router?
[08:16] <tatters> I take it its the same chap whose on top of list
[08:16] <funkyHat> There is a yahoo messenger for linux?
[08:16] <ompaul> SAAD3000, 192.168.20.1 ?
[08:16] <Kovecses> bside, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[08:16] <SAAD3000> ompaul i really dont know but i put the gateway to 192.168.20.1
[08:17] <bside> 10x
[08:17] <Kovecses> funkyHat, yup
[08:17] <SAAD3000> and the dns is the same as the gateway
[08:17] <funkyHat> bside, have you tried using gaim? (it's in the 'internet' menu in applications)
[08:17] <bside> ill help here if i can
[08:17] <ktogias> funkyHat, try gaim
[08:17] <ompaul> SAAD3000, usually they are like 1.1 2.1 or 0.1
[08:17] <Kovecses> yeah gaim is better
[08:17] <LabThug> bside: remember sudo asks for YOUR password, not root's
[08:17] <funkyHat> ktogias, I use gaim all the time :)
[08:17] <FlyingSquirrel32> trappist: Regarding running on boot, is /etc/rc.boot a script or a directory containing scripts?
[08:18] <ompaul> SAAD3000, you can't randomly assign an ip so what I suggest to you is you run this command >>sudo dhclient<<
[08:18] <SAAD3000> ompaul i really dont know really
[08:18] <Kovecses> even on my non-ubuntu machines i always use sudo
[08:18] <ompaul> SAAD3000, there are better ways but that one may just get an ip
[08:18] <SAAD3000> ompaul dhclient what is that?
[08:18] <tatters> I used the source list creation tool to strat with on clean install ubuntu I gave my problem and he popped up and said go read the DOCS on the page then left
[08:18] <ompaul> SAAD3000, a program to obtain an ip via dhcp
[08:18] <bside> how can i solve the dependancy problem
[08:18] <LabThug> Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client.  Has anyone used this program?
[08:19] <ompaul> SAAD3000, usually your router has it switched on
[08:19] <bside> its easyer to ask you than read
[08:19] <_jason> bside: what are you trying to install?
[08:19] <Kovecses> bside, what dependencies does it need
[08:19] <bside> sorry
[08:19] <OmegaAlpha> whats up channel
[08:19] <iceburgh> LabThug, yes
[08:19] <bside> yahoo messenger
[08:19] <bside> is there a command line to ask ?
[08:19] <LabThug> iceburgh: have you ever lost your mouse after leaving an RDP session sit idle for too long?
[08:19] <ompaul> OmegaAlpha, #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting this is a help channel that is rather busy with 674 peeps in it
[08:19] <iceburgh> LabThug, no i haven't
[08:19] <LabThug> this happens to me ALL the fricking time!
[08:19] <Kovecses> bside, did you check out gaim? ... it is already installed and much better than yahoo
[08:20] <LabThug> iceburgh: what do you connect to?
[08:20] <bside> trying now
[08:20] <bside> and is working  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:20] <iceburgh> LabThug, two different windows boxes that I can't get rid of, i leave them connect for long periods of time, never had any issue with my mouse
[08:20] <nm> labthug: why are you leaving an RDP session idle?
[08:20] <nm> ;p
[08:20] <dooglus> Kovecses: is there any way to stop gaim popping up windows on top of whatever you're doing whenever one of your accounts disconnects?
[08:20] <tatters> finally got some updates reboot time :)
[08:20] <LabThug> nm, cause I have to do other things on the comptuer
[08:21] <Slaj_R> Question -- Flash games work fine for me in both Epiphany and Firefox, but every flash-based craps game I've tried gives me an error.  What's the difference?
[08:21] <dooglus> Kovecses: I don't *care* that my ICQ account got disconnected and is reconnecting - just let me keep typing in my editor!!!
[08:21] <OmegaAlpha> ompaul, i just said hello... how do you know i dont need help?
[08:21] <Seveas> beniamino, use a mirror for seveas.ubuntulinux.nl 
[08:21] <prada_> dooglus: it's n the preferences somewhere
[08:21] <dooglus> prada_: are you sure?  I'd love to know where, if it is.
[08:21] <ompaul> OmegaAlpha, :) ask away
[08:21] <dooglus> prada_: there's a plugin for 'auto reconnect' or some such, but it still steals focus from your editor
[08:21] <funkyHat> Kovecses, enable the auto-reconnect plugin, and tell it not to notify you of connection errors
[08:21] <OmegaAlpha> i have a prob with my 3d accelerator working
[08:22] <LabThug> iceburgh: have you ever left them idle by any chance?  Do you have a USB mouse and/or a PS2?
[08:22] <funkyHat> * dooglus
[08:22] <SAAD3000> ompaul the lan doesn't work thru dhcp everyone on the lan has his own ip with mac address filtered
[08:22] <ompaul> OmegaAlpha, what kind of card
[08:22] <beniamino> Seveas: yeah, i just found the mirrors on your page.
[08:22] <trappist> FlyingSquirrel32: it's a directory containing scripts.
[08:22] <OmegaAlpha> ATI by  Radeon u1
[08:22] <prada_> dooglus: beleve it or not I'm on a windows box rght now with no gaim installed  ..;)
[08:22] <Kovecses> funkyHat, that wasnt my question
[08:22] <ompaul> !tell OmegaAlpha about ati
[08:22] <beniamino> Seveas: btw, thanks for putting those packages out. they are very handy
[08:22] <dooglus> prada_: ok...
[08:22] <funkyHat> Kovecses, I realised that, I addressed it to the wrong person sorry
[08:22] <Kovecses> funkyHat, it was dooglus
[08:22] <ompaul> OmegaAlpha, read the message from the bot, it is quite a detailed url
[08:22] <OmegaAlpha> reading isnt going to help me
[08:22] <dooglus> funkyHat: I didn't have "hide disconnect errors" checked - so maybe that has fixed it!  thanks.
[08:22] <iceburgh> LabThug, running here on my laptop, have left them idle overnight many times, touchpad on the laptop is ok, and I use a Logitech usb wireless mouse, both fine
[08:23] <Kovecses> funkyHat, np
[08:23] <OmegaAlpha> i was in here last night... trying to fix this with help.
[08:23] <LabThug> iceburgh: ok.  Thanks for the info.  I'll keep looking for other causes
[08:23] <OmegaAlpha> its more complicated for me to figure out by reading web sites
[08:23] <iceburgh> LabThug, wish i knew, never heard of your issue, i'll check around tho as well
[08:23] <Kovecses> OmegaAlpha, what are you trying to do?
[08:24] <LabThug> iceburgh: thanks
[08:24] <OmegaAlpha> Kovecses, theres this program "stellarium" and another "celestia" they require the accelerator i guess
[08:24] <ompaul> OmegaAlpha, paste lspci into paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:24] <Slaj_R> Also, I know that I have the JRE installed, so why can't java applets run in Epiphany?
[08:24] <bside> Kovecses, you rule ! what is the best firewall ?
[08:24] <iceburgh> LabThug, have you swapped the mouse out for a different one? ps2 or different type of usb?
[08:24] <Kovecses> bside, a hardware one
[08:24] <OmegaAlpha> Kovecses, and the program ran properly when i first installed Ubuntu.. but afterwards... would never run again
[08:25] <bside> thanks but a cheaper software version ?
[08:25] <thegladiator> can someone help me in playing online music using brwsers ?
[08:25] <OmegaAlpha> ompaul, ok
[08:25] <LabThug> iceburgh: I am going to try that
[08:25] <Kovecses> bside, there should be some good free ones
[08:25] <thegladiator> i have tried out quite a few things but no luck!
[08:25] <SAAD3000> might it be a firewall?
[08:25] <bside> Kovecses, what software firewall do you use ?
[08:25] <thegladiator> not firewall
[08:25] <SAAD3000> guys is it okey if my wireless lan led light doesn't flash on when i activate the device???
[08:25] <Kovecses> bside, i dont use a firewall
[08:26] <ompaul> SAAD3000, then the ip that is correctly assigned to that box and that card is needed -0 you canfind this by booting in windows or suse which you said was working or ask the person who set these filters for an ip for you to use
[08:26] <SAAD3000> Kovecses lol am talking about my porblem
[08:26] <bside> Kovecses, why ?
[08:26] <erisco> how do you install limewire? I am following the guide but the file it is trying to wget does not exist
[08:26] <Kovecses> bside, why use one?
[08:26] <psycose> in Hoary this howto told to do this sudo adduser cupsys shadow, do we need that in Breezy ? (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31796 end of page)
[08:26] <bside> for closing the default opened ports ?
[08:26] <bside> and exploits ?
[08:26] <mikeB> must go now 1 alienware area51m 5700 notebook price 550 includes sameday shipipng, case, wireless router and 30gb apple ipod.  message me if interested on aim at itscrazyguymike or msn at mcsltd@telusmail.net if interested. THIS MUST GO TODAY!
[08:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell erisco about limewire
[08:27] <thegladiator> anyone here listends to online music using browsers ?
[08:27] <thegladiator> new releases ?
[08:27] <_jason> mikeB: do not do that here
[08:27] <FearMoth> what program can I use to connect to my router's serial port via the serial port on my PC ?
[08:27] <OmegaAlpha> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8751
[08:27] <Kovecses> bside, well .... at the moment im using fedora and they have a pretty good firewall....
[08:27] <Kovecses> !firewall
[08:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:27] <bside> Kovecses, is there a nokia suite for linux ?
[08:27] <thegladiator> i have this site called musicindiaonline.com ...and I select the film or album name...
[08:27] <Kovecses> bside, did you see that
[08:28] <thegladiator> and check and click on  play selected , it works fine with windows
[08:28] <erisco> _jason, no that is not my problem
[08:28] <SAAD3000> ompaul i set the ip its my ip 192.168.20.70
[08:28] <bside> yes. thanks
[08:28] <_jason> erisco: what is the problem?
[08:28] <erisco> _jason, the package does not seem to exist
[08:28] <bside> Kovecses, is there a nokia suite for linux ?
[08:28] <OmegaAlpha> Kovecses, i noticed you are talking about firewalls... is one really necessary on ubuntu? i heard it isnt
[08:28] <SAAD3000> ompaul might it be  a firewall?
[08:28] <jetscreamer> oh no you don
[08:28] <_jason> erisco: funny, I just downloaded it
[08:28] <Kovecses> OmegaAlpha, i dont think so.... but bside wants one
[08:28] <erisco> _jason, http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther does not appear to be there
[08:28] <nm> FearMoth: picocom
[08:28] <jetscreamer> oh no you don't need a firewall... and tell everybody root's password also
[08:29] <jetscreamer> and your bank account number
[08:29] <_jason> erisco: you should consider using frostwire instead anyway
[08:29] <Kovecses> lol
[08:29] <sdghsgh> so anyone here using XGL with fglrx?
[08:29] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: a firewall isn't a bad idea.  It will help protect you if you're not familiar with good security practices or are too lazy to follow them.  but it's not a substitute for real security.
[08:29] <Kovecses> i have a hardware firewall so i dont worry about the software side
[08:29] <jetscreamer> those that come with the 2wire dsl modem/routers kinda seem to suck
[08:29] <erisco> _jason, where can I find information about frostwire?
[08:29] <nm> if you're behind a NAT router, and connected to a trusted network
[08:29] <nm> you don't really need a firewall
[08:29] <thegladiator> folks please?
[08:29] <trappist> nm: that's true
[08:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell erisco about frostwire
[08:30] <kbrooks> Well, newbies to Linux!
[08:30] <OmegaAlpha> yeahwell i read on ubuntu you are only seriously at risk if you log into you root account alot
[08:30] <Kovecses> thegladiator, waht?
[08:30] <prada_> thegladiator: which site and what kind of format ?
[08:30] <kbrooks> OmegaAlpha, you cant log on to it by default
[08:30] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: or if you don't keep up with your security updates, or if your password sucks, etc. and so on
[08:30] <thegladiator> the site is www.musicindiaonline.com or www.raaga.com
[08:30] <nm> omegaalpha: that isn't really true, you're not placed at risk because you're logging into the root account, but you could accidentaly delete files
[08:30] <jetscreamer> hey i read that it's ok to wear red in a crip's hood
[08:30] <nm> that you couldn't normally
[08:30] <OmegaAlpha> i know
[08:30] <thegladiator> they normally use real format
[08:30] <trappist> jetscreamer: good one :)
[08:30] <OmegaAlpha> but i HAVE logged into it before
[08:30] <nm> or if a program you are running as root, has a security vulnerability someone can exploit, the level of access they obtain by doing so
[08:30] <thegladiator> just selct the film you need and click on select and hit play selected
[08:31] <nm> is far higher as well
[08:31] <Kovecses> guys a very cool internet site is..... youtube.com
[08:31] <bside> Kovecses, do you know torrent ?
[08:31] <prada_> thegladiator: there are a motherload of plugins avalable ... you tried any of them ?
[08:31] <asdffasf> chess for playing online?
[08:31] <Kovecses> bside, i hate torrent
[08:31] <trappist> asdffasf: gnome-chess
[08:31] <thegladiator> prada, yah...wait I will give you a direct link to a song page
[08:31] <asdffasf> tnx, bye
[08:31] <bside> Kovecses, i just love them :)
[08:31] <jetscreamer> i like crafty with e-board
[08:31] <OmegaAlpha> but no need to tell me.. i know what firewalls are for in fact they like to annoy me with me port forwarding
[08:31] <trappist> never seen crafty
[08:31] <jetscreamer> eboard has nice chess sets
[08:31] <jetscreamer> crafty is an engine
[08:31] <prada_> thegladiator: don't bother ... 'm on wndoze
[08:31] <Kovecses> what about 3dcehss
[08:31] <jetscreamer> seems like the smartest not sure
[08:31] <ompaul> OmegaAlpha, okay last first here we go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77867 this suggests that the default settings are best, as I do not have an ati I have no idea to restore the initial values do this: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:31] <thegladiator> prada, ah
[08:32] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: they don't forward ports just to piss you off.  they forward ports when you tell them to, because you want them to.
[08:32] <jetscreamer> never tried it but i've seen the package
[08:32] <thegladiator> Kovecses, 3d chess is not the ordinary chess , its like 3 dimensional
[08:32] <Kovecses> thegladiator, hence the name?
[08:32] <OmegaAlpha> ompaul,  i did that last night
[08:32] <trappist> jetscreamer: oh, a chess ai engine? that's what I've been looking for.
[08:32] <OmegaAlpha> trappist, no shit
[08:32] <jetscreamer> what i'd like is the chess screensaver looks on an engine/whatever
[08:32] <OmegaAlpha> i never said that
[08:32] <thegladiator> can any trouble shooters help me http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/10/s/album.4550/
[08:32] <trappist> Kovecses: don't make fun, I thought it was gonna be like an opengl chess board
[08:32] <OmegaAlpha> trappist, i just said they like to annoy me with my ports that i have forwarded
[08:33] <prada_> thegladiator: tried real player for linux ?
[08:33] <serl> Hi, does xgl work with a G400?
[08:33] <thegladiator> Kovecses, yeah
[08:33] <thegladiator> prada, yeah
[08:33] <OmegaAlpha> but that was on windows...
[08:33] <jetscreamer> yeah crafty is a good engine... but some of it is non-free or contrib i forget
[08:33] <thegladiator> I did the plugin thing and finally got the mozilla to detect real player
[08:33] <thegladiator> still the song is not oming !
[08:33] <jetscreamer> not sure about where in ubuntu
[08:33] <trappist> jetscreamer: I can live with that.  I just want to play chess against my computer.
[08:33] <OmegaAlpha> ompaul, i edited my xorg.conf last night .. minor edit and and it disable my graphics.. so i couldnt get onto the gui last night
[08:33] <jetscreamer> eboard + crafty is my favorite
[08:34] <thegladiator> coming ....* i tried 2 diff site...*
[08:34] <thegladiator> who  was asking about chess ?
[08:34] <prada_> thegladiator: it could be a firewall issue ...
[08:34] <jetscreamer> the crafty medium sized books. that's the non-free or contrib
[08:34] <thegladiator> prada, I dont think I have a firewall , how can I check that ?
[08:34] <jetscreamer> the actual engine is in regular
[08:34] <OmegaAlpha> and i couldnt edit the file at the terminal which is all i had to use at the time...  so i had to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.org command to restore that file
[08:34] <jetscreamer> you need an engine, book, and the eboard (or xboard but it's fugly)
[08:34] <thegladiator> prada, nah there is no f/w
[08:35] <ToLImGaUrHoTh> bonsoir
[08:35] <_jason> !fr
[08:35] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:35] <nm> iptables -L
[08:35] <nm> will tell you what firewall rules you have in place
[08:35] <thegladiator> http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/10/s/album.4550/ ---------> can someon go here and click on "PLay selected" and tell me if they can listen to songs , folkz who have real player plugin connected that is
[08:35] <mario> .
[08:35] <prada_> thegladiator: you doing ths over a DSL line I'm assuming and not from a workplace ?
[08:35] <ToLImGaUrHoTh> je m'en fou de discuter en francais
[08:35] <bside> Kovecses, ar you an AI ?
[08:35] <thegladiator> correct
[08:36] <nm> thegladiator: iptables -L
[08:36] <bobbyd> hi
[08:36] <trappist> ToLImGaUrHoTh: #ubuntu-fr sil te plait
[08:36] <serl> Did somebody try xgl?
[08:36] <Kovecses> thegladiator, works here
[08:36] <bobbyd> how do I forceably reinstall a single package under ubuntu?
[08:36] <thegladiator> FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:36] <thegladiator> iptables v1.3.1: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root)
[08:36] <Kovecses> bside, AI?
[08:36] <trappist> bobbyd: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[08:36] <thegladiator> Kovecses, omg it does ? the songs can be played ?
[08:36] <nm> as root :P
[08:36] <nm> sudo iptables -L
[08:36] <ToLImGaUrHoTh> why ? my place is were i want
[08:36] <Kovecses> thegladiator, yup
[08:36] <trappist> thegladiator: did you READ that error message?
[08:36] <heliotrope> how do i install something like a plug-in for firefox on ubuntu
[08:36] <bobbyd> trappist, I want to wipe the config files too, can I force that?
[08:37] <trappist> bobbyd: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename then reinstall
[08:37] <thegladiator> oh oh ! sorry
[08:37] <bside> http://www.alicebot.org/
[08:37] <thegladiator> Kovecses, could you help me ?
[08:37] <Kovecses> thegladiator, help you what... it
[08:37] <ompaul> OmegaAlpha, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" <<---- will always reset to basic working and then you can start again, it is your friend
[08:37] <thegladiator> iptables is clear
[08:37] <prada_> heliotrope: what knda plugin ?
[08:37] <bobbyd> trappist, but half my system depends on this package...
[08:37] <Kovecses> thegladiator, help you what... not listen to gay music
[08:37] <thegladiator> Kovecses, what have you done actually ? where is your real player ?
[08:37] <heliotrope> prada_, macromedia flash
[08:37] <Kovecses> lol
[08:38] <ToLImGaUrHoTh> fuck
[08:38] <trappist> bobbyd: uninstalling it is a questionable idea then, eh?
[08:38] <thegladiator> lol no gay dude
[08:38] <Kovecses> thegladiator, its not using real player
[08:38] <thegladiator> Kovecses, what did you do to get the real plugin ?
[08:38] <prada_> heliotrope: firefox doesn't care f you're on ubuntu to install flash
[08:38] <thegladiator> then ?
[08:38] <thegladiator> dont tell em ur on windows ?
[08:38] <thegladiator> Kovecses, are you using FF ?
[08:38] <Kovecses> thegladiator, yeah
[08:38] <thegladiator> Kovecses, linux ?
[08:38] <trappist> bobbyd: possibly I could offer some more useful guidance if I knew what package you were talking about and/or what you were trying to accomplish
[08:38] <Kovecses> thegladiator, yeah
[08:39] <thegladiator> Kovecses, and it pops up the option for players right ?
[08:39] <OmegaAlpha> ompaul, yeah i know.. it became a great friend last night
[08:39] <Kovecses> thegladiator, use the musicindiaonline player
[08:39] <Kovecses> thegladiator, yes
[08:39] <prada_> heliotrope: just go to flash site and frefox should hopefully popup something to install flash
[08:40] <thegladiator> Kovecses, when you click on play selcted it pops up the player list and says realplayer avaialble ?
[08:40] <OmegaAlpha> ompaul.. i tried changing the "ati" listed in the "device" section... to "radeon" which i was suggested to TRY but not be a solution and thats what happened
[08:40] <nm> anyone have any advice/weirdnesses they'd like to share about ubuntu and running bind in a chroot jail?
[08:40] <nm> i'm not a debian user, but am experimenting around with ubuntu
[08:40] <nm> i'm usually a gentoo guy
[08:40] <nm> or fedora/redhat when required
[08:40] <naetrick> Anyone know of a .wps reader for linux?
[08:40] <thegladiator> Kovecses, I dont understand how it  works for you , does it pop up asking the player you wann ause ?
[08:41] <dle> OmegaAlpha: What card do you have?
[08:41] <Kovecses> thegladiator, are you a complete noob?
[08:41] <thegladiator> Kovecses, no a lil better y ?
[08:41] <prada_> thegladiator: pop-up blocker in acton ? :)
[08:41] <Kovecses> thegladiator, why not install real player if you want to use real player
[08:41] <bside> Kovecses, who am i ?
[08:41] <OmegaAlpha> dle, ATI technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1
[08:41] <thegladiator> Kovecses, Kovecses could you explain ? I installed real player
[08:42] <dle> OmegaAlpha: Okay, that's not what I have. Anyway, they're all a bitch.  Try /join #ati .
[08:42] <Kovecses> thegladiator, explain what?
[08:42] <bside> Kovecses, how old are you ?
[08:42] <thegladiator> Kovecses, I have real player installed and I copied the lugins to the ./mozilla/plugins folder
[08:42] <Kovecses> thegladiator, all i did was click on it and it played
[08:42] <OmegaAlpha> dle, how come i had no problem with it when i first installed ubuntu running these certain programs like "stelarrium"?
[08:43] <thegladiator> Kovecses, could you send me a screnshot the song being played ?
[08:43] <prada_> thegladiator: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#RealPlayer ... seen this ?
[08:43] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  and now the programs wont even run
[08:43] <Kovecses> thegladiator, what for... to prove i am playing it?
[08:43] <dle> OmegaAlpha: Couldn't say.  Do you get any useful error output?
[08:43] <nabz> hey guyz, wheres firefox on this?
[08:43] <thegladiator> Kovecses, no...to see what player it is using
[08:43] <adub> gosh i cant stand this all of a sudden now i can not write to my usb flash drive it is friggin read only and i did not do anything to the drive itself i havent changed anything i have rebooted shutdown still read only changed various settings in /etc/fstab as well?????
[08:43] <bside> Kovecses, hope i am not offend you but i thought you are AI.
[08:44] <bside> Kovecses, i love you
[08:44] <thegladiator> Kovecses, or you can click on the real player symbol , since the point is the site uses real player and windows media player only to play the songs
[08:44] <Kovecses> bside, what is AI
[08:44] <bside> :P
[08:44] <gravity000> I'm running the live version of 5.10, how can I browse my windows partition?
[08:44] <bside> Kovecses, go here http://www.alicebot.org/
[08:44] <Kovecses> k
[08:44] <OmegaAlpha> dle, no that would be nice though
[08:44] <nabz> wheres firefox on this?
[08:45] <thegladiator> prada, thanks I have done that...excelpt my version is 10.0.6.776
[08:45] <Kovecses> bside, no im human
[08:45] <gravity000> firfox is under internet in applications
[08:45] <nabz> i dont see it :(
[08:45] <nabz> i got kubuntu
[08:45] <prada_> thegladiator: I don't think that should matter ..
[08:45] <funkyHat> gravity000, sudo mkdir /mnt/c && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/c
[08:45] <nabz> ah nvm
[08:45] <gravity000> oh..  hmm
[08:45] <gravity000> oh ok
[08:46] <gravity000> where was it?
[08:46] <prada_> nabz: just spawn console and type firefox in it .. or Alt + F2
[08:46] <thegladiator> prada, same thats what I was thinking . here is what I did instaled RP 10
[08:46] <dle> OmegaAlpha - did you run these progs from the command-line?
[08:46] <thegladiator> prada, phelix.xpt to your Mozilla components directory
[08:46] <nabz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:46] <nm> nabz: open a terminal window and type firefox-bin
[08:46] <nabz> have to download it. lol
[08:46] <fliptod> someone answer network question
[08:46] <thegladiator> prada, I didnt do that I guess
[08:47] <OmegaAlpha> dle, oh yeah i did my bad.. i got error messages that way
[08:47] <thegladiator> prada, I copied both to /.mozilla/plugin
[08:47] <fliptod> i'm trying to go static ip
[08:47] <OmegaAlpha> dle, werent that useful though
[08:47] <fliptod> need to know broadcast
[08:47] <kevin> how to install deb file bdpk -i something like that i really remember... :\
[08:47] <thegladiator> what is this mozilla components driectory in "phelix.xpt to your Mozilla components directory"
[08:47] <thegladiator> kevin , !deb
[08:47] <nabz> bash: firefox-bin: command not found
[08:47] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell kevin about deb
[08:47] <kevin> pqbk or something?
[08:47] <kevin> cheers
[08:48] <thegladiator> np
[08:48] <thegladiator> what is this mozilla components driectory in "phelix.xpt to your Mozilla components directory"
[08:48] <prada_> thegladiator: dude ... you may need to pu that in the firefox plugin directly ... and not the mozilla one, unless you're using mozilla ..
[08:48] <thegladiator> prada, farous told me so actually . but how do I do that ?
[08:48] <fliptod> can someone answer network question?>
[08:48] <thegladiator> what you are refering ?
[08:48] <fliptod> need to know correct broadcast
[08:49] <OmegaAlpha> dle, i only know how to run "Stellarium" from the command line.  The other program "Celestia (Gnome)" ->bash: syntax error near unexpected token `Gnome'
[08:49] <fliptod> ifconfig states 255.255.255.255
[08:49] <prada_> thegladiator: I'm on a bitching windows machine :( ... sorry I can't lok up stuff on a ubuntu  box
[08:49] <thegladiator> prada, tough luck :)
[08:49] <fliptod> but it should be xxx.xxx.x.255 shouldn't it
[08:49] <thegladiator> prada, both me and you ( since you are on windows) :-
[08:49] <dle> OmegaAlpha - you ran it from the CL as 'Celestia (Gnome)'?
[08:50] <OmegaAlpha> dle, "Stellarium"  ->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8753
[08:50] <thegladiator> can someone enlighten me about real player plugin to FireFox
[08:50] <prada_> thegladiator: yeah ...
[08:50] <fliptod> anyone? new to linux and ip route table is much diff from windoze
[08:50] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  i tried running it as "Celestia" , "Celestia (Gnome) and other variations.. just trying anything to get it to run
[08:50] <dle> OmegaAlpha - Well, you need to edit your xorg.conf to inlucde the GLX extension when X starts.
[08:50] <gravity000> is it a serious problem?
[08:51] <gravity000> fliptop
[08:51] <fliptod> i know this is easy question for someone
[08:51] <kevin> !mplayer
[08:51] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:51] <OmegaAlpha> dle, and one of those links you sent me will tell me exactly how to do that?
[08:52] <prada_> fliptod:  missed the problem ... what is it again ?
[08:52] <thegladiator> folkz :http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-108.html
[08:52] <dle> OmegaAlpha - I didn't send you any links.
[08:52] <fliptod> finding right broadcast
[08:52] <pinkisntwell> I just tried the quake 4 demo and sound is a garbled mess, what gives?
[08:52] <OmegaAlpha> dle, whoops my bad someone else did who tried helping me
[08:52] <thegladiator> he also asks the same thing , what is this mozilla components directory ?
[08:52] <fliptod> ifconfig states 255.255.255.255
[08:52] <plb> anyone get compiz / xgl working on amd64
[08:52] <fliptod> doesn't seem right
[08:53] <OmegaAlpha> dle, im a newbie ...first week using Linux ever
[08:53] <fliptod> seems it should be xxx.xxx.x.255
[08:53] <gravity000> i have 255.255.255.255 as well
[08:53] <eugman> offtopic question: if jumper settongs are shown vertically is up towards the power or the cable?
[08:53] <dle>     Load        "glx"   # libglx.a
[08:53] <dle>     Load        "dri"   # libdri.a
[08:53] <dle> oops
[08:53] <prada_> fliptod: don't worry about it ... it's right
[08:53] <dle> OmegaAlpha - that was for you.
[08:54] <thegladiator> any sould who can help me ? (
[08:54] <fliptod> ok thanks why so different from windoze
[08:54] <gravity000> because windows is crap
[08:54] <fliptod> tis true
[08:54] <fliptod> i'm new to linux but truly converted
[08:54] <prada_> gravity000: you stole that one right out of my mouth ... I can't believe I'm using it right now ..
[08:55] <concept10> anyone used pyvns2swf to make screencast? Im wondering if it records sound, or if you have to attach another file to it
[08:55] <fliptod> thanks for the help
[08:55] <dle> OmegaAlpha - You sound like you;'re doing alright for a novice dealing with ATI rubbish. :-)
[08:56] <gravity000> does nVidia offer more support for open source than ATi?
[08:56] <thegladiator> last and final call , does anyone kow what is this mozilla components directory  ? it says I need to cp some nphelix.xpt to that direcotry to get real player working with FF!!!!!
[08:57] <_jason> thegladiator: that's probably the plugins directory
[08:57] <gravity000> thats what I was thinking
[08:57] <Nameeater> nvidia linux driver is closed source
[08:57] <prada_> thegladiator: tried googlng ? :)
[08:57] <foxgamer> Hi all. I have decided to return to ubuntu after having problems with the current distro, but I have a quick question. Is there compatibility with an ati radeon x300 card with the 64bit verson yet, does anyone know?
[08:57] <midwinter> gravity000, not exactly more support for open source... just better drivers
[08:57] <Nameeater> that said the driver is far superior to the ati driver
[08:57] <gravity000> ahh okay
[08:57] <phetu> hi, i just want to know if its possible to connect to a remote vnc server (like vino) but instead of connecting to the current session just open a new one?
[08:57] <thegladiator> prada, I went to the ubuntu forum from google , one another guy askde the same thing , and he said what _jason said
[08:58] <thegladiator> _jason, jason , there is /.mozilla/lpugins and ./mozilla/firefox folders
[08:58] <gravity000> stick it in both
[08:58] <thegladiator> _jason, i created ./mozilla/plugin and copied it actually , 2 files needed for real player .
[08:58] <prada_> thegladiator: oh well ... let me see f i can connec to a linux box ... I woulda helped you if i wasnt on a frggin wndows box
[08:58] <thegladiator> hmmm let me trying doing that
[08:59] <fishdish> hi guys, a practical problem with an ATI chipset with an ASUS mini PC...
[08:59] <thegladiator> prada, that would be gr8 thank you
[08:59] <OmegaAlpha> dle, thanks
[08:59] <fishdish> how did we again start xconfigure in ubuntu 5.10?
[08:59] <OmegaAlpha> dle, so where do i add that at?
[09:00] <thegladiator> gravity000 _jason , so I make the folder ./mozilla/firefox/plugin ? ....an then there is some folder called ./firefox/plugin also!
[09:00] <Kyo> I'm updating to breezy (dist-upgrade) and its 82 percent done but now its timed out ... can't connect to achieve.ubuntu.com. is there any other alternative mirrors?
[09:00] <gravity000> umm
[09:00] <dle> OmegaAlpha - open /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor.  at the command-line, do 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' sans quotes.
[09:00] <gravity000> stick it in the plugins folder first
[09:01] <maihem> Kyo: I think the GB servers, at least, have lost network connectivity
[09:01] <dooglus> Kyo: it's "archive", not "achieve"?
[09:01] <prada_> thegladiator: try /usr/lib/firefox/plugns
[09:01] <gravity000> are there other plugins in there?
[09:01] <gravity000> like the flash plugin
[09:01] <dooglus> Kyo: it might be to do with the power outage I guess - just wait a while?
[09:01] <OmegaAlpha> dle, already did that
[09:01] <OmegaAlpha> im in the file now wondering where to put that code you gave me
[09:01] <dle> OmegaAlpha - and ou added those two lines I mentioned above?
[09:01] <_jason> thegladiator: ~/.mozilla/plugins according to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/firefox-linux.html
[09:02] <_jason> thegladiator: do you know mplayer with w32codecs plays realplayer stuff?
[09:02] <dle> OmegaAlpha - look for Section "Module"
[09:02] <Thunderbird> grr, getting sick of musaraki ..
[09:02] <OmegaAlpha> ok
[09:02] <^Ocean^> okay so archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down,  is there a mirror i can switch too ?
[09:02] <Thunderbird> it still won't find my usb mouse / keyboard (in dapper)
[09:02] <OmegaAlpha> ahh i see
[09:02] <thegladiator> _jason, yeah I read that . but it doesnt work ...yeah mplayer does but thi site www.musicindiaonline.com has been confiured to use real player and windows media player
[09:03] <dle> OmegaAlpha - add those 2 lines between that and the EndSection that closes that section.
[09:03] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  those two lines are already there :(
[09:03] <prada_> Thunderbird: that's mursaki rght ... some funky new replacement ffor hald ?
[09:03] <dooglus> ^Ocean^: us.archive.ubuntu.com is up
[09:03] <Thunderbird> for hotplug
[09:03] <prada_> s/mursaki/murasaki
[09:03] <dle> OmegaAlpha - rats.
[09:03] <thegladiator> can anyone go to this site http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/10/s/album.4550/ and try playing a song ?
[09:04] <Thunderbird> but I can't get musaraki working
[09:04] <prada_> yeah .... just don't use it ... stick to hotplug
[09:04] <Thunderbird> err, murasaki
[09:04] <OmegaAlpha> im gonne sue ATI for computer misconduct :D
[09:04] <_jason> thegladiator: ``If installing plugins without root permissions, use ~/.mozilla/plugins instead of Mozilla's plugins and components subdirectories.'' http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html, specific instrucitons for realplayer there.  have you been closing and restarting all instances of firefox after adding the files?
[09:04] <prada_> OSS nomeclature sure makes you wonder ..
[09:05] <Thunderbird> but hotplug also has issues on my laptop
[09:05] <Thunderbird> after system startup numlock, scrolllock and capslock are enabled
[09:05] <thegladiator> yeah i installed the plugin to /.mozilla/plugins...and I did close all instances...
[09:05] <prada_> I thnk there was someone who did a monkeyaudio + soundjuicer app and called it monkey-jucer !!
[09:06] <Thunderbird> and whenever I hit one of the arrows, pageup, home or some other key I will get the make screenshot dialog
[09:06] <thegladiator> there was some improvement actually , it detected the realplayer , it says available
[09:06] <thegladiator> but the song wont play ...says loading , but it does on a windows box
[09:07] <fggggggfdg> cv
[09:07] <gravity000> try running realplayer and make sure there's nothing wrong with the network settings?
[09:07] <dooglus> thegladiator: doesn't play for me.
[09:08] <thegladiator> dooglus, did you do the configuration as well ?
[09:08] <dooglus> thegladiator: news.bbc.co.uk plays realmedia movies fine for me
[09:08] <dle> OmegaAlpha - we can hope that there might be something worthwhile in /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[09:08] <thegladiator> dooglus, let me check that
[09:08] <dooglus> thegladiator: I didn't do any configuration recently.  what do you suggest?
[09:08] <foxgamer> Does 64bit ubuntu support radeon x300 cards? I can't seem to find any info as to yes or no.
[09:08] <thegladiator> dooglus, copy the plugins i.e I guess you must have done it if you have tried the BBC site
[09:09] <dooglus> thegladiator: see the "BBC NEWS: VIDEO AND AUDIO" part of the front page?
[09:09] <thegladiator> dooglus, yeah it plays here also
[09:09] <erni> hi all
[09:09] <thegladiator> dooglus, So perhaps a problem with the site architechture ?
[09:10] <gravity000> that's my inclination
[09:10] <thegladiator> dooglus, there are many such sites in India
[09:10] <erni> where can i find the source code of the sort command???
[09:10] <jmont> do anybody know where do Postfix holds the email-password relation?
[09:10] <jmont> (with virtual emails)
[09:10] <prada_> thegladiator: where are you based ?
[09:10] <bronze> erni: www,gnu.org
[09:10] <thegladiator> doofy, song sites ...they say it works with linux also
[09:10] <thegladiator> prada, india :)
[09:10] <erni> thnx bronze
[09:10] <prada_> I figured that ... where exactly ? :)
[09:10] <bronze> erni, replace the comma with period
[09:10] <thegladiator> prada, down south , state of Kerala
[09:10] <NoiZeR> .cl
[09:11] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  theres alot of lines in that file i dont even know what to look for
[09:11] <thegladiator> www.keralatourism.org
[09:11] <prada_> oh ok ... I've been there
[09:11] <rehpotsirhc> is archive.ubuntu.com down or something?
[09:11] <dle> OmegaAlpha - I might not either, but paste 'em in pastebin anyway. :)
[09:11] <thegladiator> prada, thats gr8 , you liked it ?
[09:11] <wdh> rehpotsirhc, it appears so
[09:11] <rehpotsirhc> ouch. bummer
[09:12] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  do you think if i throw my laptop off the ground till it makes a *pop* sound and see smoke coming from the cracked case..that maybe that will fix it?
[09:12] <dooglus> thegladiator: looks like the indian site only works with windows and/or IE I guess
[09:12] <Kyo> I'm updating to breezy (dist-upgrade) and its 82 percent done but now its timed out ... can't connect to achieve.ubuntu.com. is there any other alternative mirrors? And its not re-connecting ...
[09:12] <dle> OmegaAlpha - Could do.  You go ahead and try that. ;)
[09:12] <prada_> thegladiator: god's own country ...  who wouldn't man ..
[09:12] <thegladiator> dooglus, yeah but they say how to use linux to play it as well thats the confusing part
[09:12] <gravity000> OMegaAlpha: yes
[09:12] <thegladiator> prada, lol :) thank you
[09:12] <Kyo> is it problem? I mean, I leave the upgdate for 4 hours now ... since I'm on a slow connection (17kb/s)
[09:12] <dooglus> erni: you should get the ubuntu source package for the sort source code
[09:12] <Kyo> heh
[09:13] <thegladiator> doofy, http://www.raaga.com/channels/malayalam/movie/M0000951.html this is another site
[09:13] <thegladiator> dooglus, http://www.raaga.com/channels/malayalam/movie/M0000951.html , can you please tell me if this woks ?
[09:13] <dooglus> erni: it's in "coreutils" - make sure you have a "deb-src" line in sources.list and "apt-get source coreutils"
[09:13] <thegladiator> it says initializing player ...please wait ...
[09:13] <thegladiator> and loading forever!
[09:14] <OmegaAlpha> yeah I think ATI has that as a backup resort to fix most of their probs
[09:14] <OmniColos> oi Ubuntu repositories are not connecting
[09:14] <dooglus> thegladiator: it doesn't seem to
[09:15] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8754
[09:15] <Kyo> ack
[09:15] <Kyo> -_-'
[09:15] <jman> something wrong with security.ubuntu breezy repo?
[09:15] <_jason> thegladiator: email them and tell them their setup does not support linux
[09:15] <dooglus> OmegaAlpha: use us.archive.ubuntu.com - that's up
[09:15] <pitti> jman: it was, but it was fixed a couple of hours ago
[09:16] <OmniColos> thans doog
[09:16] <_jason> pitti: I still can't get to it
[09:16] <thegladiator> dooglus, thanks ...if you have a second to spare...http://www.musicindiaonline.com/xh/mtpf/
[09:16] <thegladiator> _jason, see that site please they explain how to get it working on Linux
[09:16] <thegladiator> so Linux support is there
[09:16] <jman> pitti: seems to be back down
[09:16] <pitti> _jason: ah, wait, we just had a power outage in the DC, that's probably the reason
[09:16] <thegladiator> still it cud be a site problem
[09:16] <dooglus> thegladiator:
[09:16] <pitti> _jason: yes, our admin is working on bringing everything back online
[09:16] <thegladiator> but I am trying to figure ....before mailing the
[09:16] <_jason> pitti: ah
[09:16] <dooglus> thegladiator:
[09:17] <thegladiator> oops dooglus I cant see you tells
[09:17] <eugman> hey can anyone here answer a jumper question?
[09:17] <FliesLikeALap> is http://wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[09:17] <dooglus> thegladiator: 6. How do I get it to work on Linux?  Download RealOne Player if you do not have it installed already. ...
[09:17] <dooglus> thegladiator: I'm not installing that rubbish...
[09:17] <Thunderbird> yeah ubuntu.com is down
[09:17] <wdh> Kyo, it just appears to be down.. it'll probably be up soon.. just run the dist-upgrade another time when it does..
[09:17] <Thunderbird> just when I need an ubuntu package mirror to fix my system
[09:17] <thegladiator> dooglus, you dont have real player installed mate ?
[09:18] <prada_> dooglus: the player doesn't look too bad actually ...
[09:18] <dooglus> thegladiator: no, and I don't want it, thanks
[09:18] <thegladiator> dooglus, nah ...the point is I have and it doesnt work
[09:18] <Kyo> wdh, ah I see ...
[09:18] <Thunderbird> anyone has some ubuntu mirrors in his sources.list which don't use ubuntu.com?
[09:18] <OmegaAlpha> dooglus, whats that link to?
[09:18] <thegladiator> dooglus, so mayb i your case it is justified...the site not working
[09:18] <Kyo> wdh: When will it be back up? hours?
[09:18] <dooglus> thegladiator: I can play real media formats without the realmedia player though
[09:18] <Kyo> wdh: how do I quit it ... will it resume when I apt-get again?
[09:18] <thegladiator> dooglus, yep I know
[09:19] <dooglus> Kyo: it will
[09:19] <_jason> thegladiator: they have a link there for customer support, maybe they can help you out better
[09:19] <Kyo> Ok great
[09:19] <Kyo> How do I safetly stop it ... ctrl+x?
[09:19] <dooglus> Kyo: control c
[09:19] <thegladiator> _jason, correct I am going to mail then reagrding this I just didnt want to do that without my homework
[09:19] <thegladiator> now I guess I have to
[09:20] <OmegaAlpha> dooglus, what am i looking for at that site that you sent it to me?
[09:20] <wdh> Kyo,  yes it will
[09:20] <noteventime> 'ello
[09:20] <noteventime> could someone try to help me with my wpa?
[09:20] <prada_> thegladiator: do the other streaming sites work ?
[09:20] <wdh> noteventime, just ask
[09:21] <jman> well this was a great time to format and reinstall..
[09:21] <dle> OmegaAlpha - I notice that your setup loads a glx driver from Nvidia (line 247) while in mine, the vendor is 'X.Org Foundation'.  Relevant? I don't know.  I still suggest you try the #ati channel.  :)
[09:21] <thegladiator> prada, BBC site works well with real player
[09:21] <dooglus> OmegaAlpha: I didn't send you to any site
[09:21] <noteventime> wpa_supplicant wont work :(
[09:21] <dooglus> OmegaAlpha: I suggested you use 'apt-get source'
[09:21] <pettman> is it only my respitatories that doesn't work?
[09:21] <prada_> then mail them ... on the other hand it might be a b/w issue at the server end
[09:21] <OmegaAlpha> dle, yeah i tried the ati channel really really quiet in there
[09:22] <noteventime> I've gotten it to work before
[09:22] <lotv> hello
[09:22] <noteventime> 'ello
[09:22] <lotv> what's wrong with security.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <thegladiator> prada, thanks you are right ...i am mailing them straightaway
[09:22] <lotv> i cant connect to 82.211.81.182
[09:22] <pitti> @all: POWER OUTAGE IN THE DATA CENTER
[09:22] <pitti> admins are working on restoring the services ATM
[09:22] <OmegaAlpha> dooglus, i know. but why did you suggest it to me?
[09:22] <_jason> lotv: it's down right now, use us.security.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <Kyo> lotv, its down right now, apparently
[09:22] <fishdish> Which XFree86 version does 5.10 use?
[09:22] <OmegaAlpha> im confused
[09:22] <prada_> fishdish: it doesn't
[09:23] <noteventime> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported
[09:23] <Kyo> _jason, wait, how about achieve.ubunut.com ... is there an alternative server?
[09:23] <pitti> fishdish: none at all :) we use xorg 6.8.2
[09:23] <fishdish> aha
[09:23] <fishdish> goody
[09:23] <lotv> ok thanks a lot
[09:23] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  interesting.. i  thought i didnt have any Nvidia stuff on this computer
[09:23] <lotv> gonna try it right now
[09:23] <OmegaAlpha> dle, taht it was all ATI brand
[09:23] <_jason> Kyo: sure, us.archive.ubuntu.com... or any other 2 letter country code instead of us
[09:23] <dooglus> OmegaAlpha: I'm sorry.  I meant to speak to OmniColos not you...
[09:23] <eugman> Hey can I go to best buy to get a router without a firewall?
[09:24] <dooglus> fishdish: 5.10 uses x.org instead of xfree87
[09:24] <dooglus> 6
[09:24] <OmegaAlpha> dooglus, oh ok
[09:24] <fishdish>  got it
[09:24] <noteventime> ok i have new error now
[09:24] <dooglus> pitti: which country is the data centre in?
[09:24] <idefix_> when installing the latest mozilla version, can you just install it over the old one, or is that not proper?
[09:24] <pitti> dooglus: UK
[09:25] <rehpotsirhc> it appears to be back up
[09:25] <noteventime> After reading the config file...: EAPOL: SUPP_PAE entering state disconnected
[09:25] <rehpotsirhc> archive.ubuntu.com that is
[09:25] <pitti> dooglus: it was our first power outage, the UPS blew up
[09:25] <dooglus> pitti: isn't it common to have some kind of backup power supply, like UPS or generators in a data centre?
[09:25] <fishdish> by the way, i'd like to go and build ubuntu from the source... are there instructions on how to do it or am i just going to shoot in the dark?
[09:25] <noteventime> After reading the config file...: EAPOL: NO_KEY_RECIVE
[09:25] <pitti> dooglus: indeed, but one went crazy :)
[09:25] <dooglus> pitti: what does the 'U' stand for again?  ;)
[09:25] <prada_> fishdish: you can't be serious !! ?
[09:25] <fishdish> i need a custom distro for a handheld pc
[09:26] <pitti> dooglus: unreliable, what else? :)
[09:26] <noteventime> then, ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported, again
[09:26] <dooglus> heh
[09:26] <lotv> archive is back up yeah
[09:26] <dle> OmegaAlpha - Are you using the radeon driver or ATI's fglrx driver?
[09:26] <lotv> but us.security.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <lotv> is unknown host
[09:26] <fishdish> i could go and use instructions provided in emdebian.org
[09:26] <_jason> lotv: hrmm me too :o, never mind then I suppose
[09:26] <OmegaAlpha> dle,  i see what youa re saying about line 247
[09:26] <lotv> bah
[09:27] <OmegaAlpha> dle... everythign else is xorg foundation as the vendor
[09:27] <thegladiator> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103 doesnt say Evolution ?
[09:27] <dle> OmegaAlpha - In my experience the fglrx driver is better.
[09:27] <thegladiator> hwo can I do a gmail pop setup for evolution ?
[09:28] <thegladiator> I need th gmail server
[09:28] <OmegaAlpha> dle, do you think during installation of ubuntu that libglx.so was overwritten with that of Nvidias module?
[09:28] <thegladiator> POP 3 server
[09:28] <noteventime> pop.googlemail.com
[09:28] <OmegaAlpha> dle, i believe mines Radeon
[09:28] <noteventime> hmmm..... now it tells me SSID mismatch... Help please :'(
[09:28] <FliesLikeALap> thegladiator, follow the instructions that gmail gives for setting up outlook express, that will have all the information you need
[09:28] <thegladiator> thank you
[09:28] <OmegaAlpha> i know its a ATI tech. Radeon Mobility U1
[09:28] <emmo> Hiya..
[09:29] <dooglus> does anyone here use web-based gmail and malone?
[09:29] <prada_> thegladiator: probably because anyone usng linux would be smart enough to figure it out ;)
[09:29] <dooglus> they don't seem to work well together
[09:29] <thegladiator> lol
[09:29] <prada_> dooglus: what's malone got to do wth gmail ?
[09:30] <tafsen> Im following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport , but I can't manage to find java-package with apt
[09:30] <dooglus> prada_: malone sends me emails to my gmail account, and I should be able to reply to them to add comments to bugs
[09:30] <Seveas> dooglus, malone only accepts gpg-signed mail
[09:30] <maihem> Kyo: servers seem to be back up
[09:30] <dooglus> prada_: but when the email it sends me is due to a comment that I wrote, and I try to reply to that, gmail sends the reply to the wrong address
[09:30] <dooglus> Seveas: no, that's not true.
[09:31] <prada_> Seveas: that a apam protection feature ?
[09:31] <dooglus> Seveas: it only accepts gpg-signed mail for raising new bugs, but for comments it doesn't require the mail to be signed
[09:31] <prada_> s/apam/spam
[09:31] <OmegaAlpha> hmm this is confusing
[09:31] <OmegaAlpha> i think i should just give up on it
[09:31] <fishdish> another curiosity: there is this computer called TYAN VX 50. It has 8 slots for AMD Opteron processors. We are trying to fix Ubuntu to work with all the 8 processors. We have a problem though: 4 of the processors are connected to the motherboard with a PCI-E. Therefore there's a PCI-E to cross to 4 processors which are missing from the configuration
[09:32] <fishdish> How to get the 4 remaining processors work?
[09:32] <dooglus> Seveas: see here: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneEmailInterfaceUserDoc#head-4c8c06395760b0d311aad5407a14972c0ac94d8e
[09:32] <OmegaAlpha> and move on to task number two.. getting my ext usb hd recognized
[09:32] <dooglus> (nice URL :)
[09:32] <Gyuszk> Guys, I'm using the AMD64 edition of Ubuntu, but what about codecs, DVD playback, ATI driver? Is there any howtos?
[09:32] <fishdish> I have noticed that this is a kernel issue. Some ppl on #debian thoguht NUMA had to be reconfigured.
[09:33] <fishdish> But i suspect NUMA has nothing to do with this.
[09:33] <lotv> bah
[09:33] <lotv> whatever happened to security.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> fishdish:  e-mail the lkml, check vger.kernel.org for info on how to get on linux-kernel
[09:33] <lotv> i dont remember it being down every
[09:33] <erisco> why can't I download anything through the terminal or synaptic? I can't apt-get or wget!
[09:33] <lotv> *ever
[09:33] <eneska18> hello
[09:33] <thegladiator> noteventime, pop.gmail.com or pop.googlemail.com ?
[09:34] <Gyuszk> Guys, I'm using the AMD64 edition of Ubuntu, but what about codecs, DVD playback, ATI driver? Is there any howtos?
[09:34] <FliesLikeALap> lotv,  security, ubuntu.com, and wiki.ubuntu.com are down, possibly others
[09:34] <beco> HOLA
[09:34] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know if there is a program on synaptic to convert iPod mp4a to mp3's
[09:34] <Seveas> fishdish, try #ubuntu-server / #ubuntu-kernel, the people that develop the server-oriented kernel hang in there
[09:34] <eneska18> JEST TU JAKIS POLAK ???????????????????/
[09:34] <noteventime> thegladiator: any of them
[09:34] <beco> COMO ANDAN
[09:34] <fishdish> ok
[09:34] <Seveas> eneska18, drop the caps and stick to english
[09:34] <beco> QUIENES SON
[09:34] <noteventime> thegladiator: but pop.googlemail.com is the "official" one
[09:34] <Seveas> beco, same to you
[09:34] <lotv> wiki has packages... no!
[09:34] <thegladiator> thanks
[09:34] <Gyuszk> beco, english please
[09:35] <cafuego> !tell beco -about es
[09:35] <lotv> damn my formatting
[09:35] <Gyuszk> Guys, I'm using the AMD64 edition of Ubuntu, but what about codecs, DVD playback, ATI driver? Is there any howtos?
[09:35] <eneska18> im from poland
[09:35] <midwinter> Gyuszk, sure
[09:35] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  what makes you think they understand what you're saying?
[09:35] <FliesLikeALap> Gyuszk,  there is a howto for just about everything if you look
[09:35] <erisco> sorry to ask again... but would there be any reason of why I cannot connect to the internet through my terminal?
[09:35] <Gyuszk> yes?
[09:35] <Seveas> eneska18, great but we speak english in here, ig you prefer polish, try #ubuntu-pl
[09:35] <Gyuszk> Whats the URL? :)
[09:36] <takedown> Gyuszk: look on forum about it
[09:36] <eneska18> ty
[09:36] <Seveas> Gyuszk, wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <Gyuszk> ok, thanks guys
[09:36] <Gyuszk> & ubuntu rocks
[09:36] <Gyuszk> ;)
[09:36] <Seveas> Gyuszk, we know 
[09:36] <erisco> 0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)] 
[09:36] <erisco> and it just sits there...
[09:36] <prada_> Seveas: is ther entire launchpad/malone thing proprietary ?
[09:36] <erisco> for any other source too
[09:37] <Gyuszk> erisco, there are tons of official Ubuntu mirror servers
[09:37] <Seveas> prada_, for now: yes, but it will be open sourced when it's approximately finished
[09:37] <erisco> Gyuszk, so what are you suggesting?
[09:37] <Seveas> erisco, power outage in the datacenter, use se.archive.ubuntu.com for now
[09:37] <prada_> Seveas: yeah ... that's what Mark said ..
[09:37] <nm> UPS > *
[09:37] <nm> ;p
[09:38] <Seveas> prada_, and I trust him on that 
[09:38] <Seveas> nm, it's not just a power outage, it was referd to as a "small catastrophe"
[09:38] <erisco> Seveas... oh really? Okay, so how do I specify what mirror I want to download from? I am trying to get wine
[09:38] <prada_> doesn't matter ... that's what he said ... all we can do is wait and see :)
[09:38] <adub> anyone get the orinoco classic gold card drivers to compile correctly??
[09:38] <Seveas> erisco, you want that one from the wine repos anyways, /msg ubotu easysource
[09:39] <DShepherd> What would cause compiz to run but not actually manage the windows?
[09:39] <dooglus> "<pitti> it was our first power outage, the UPS blew up"
[09:39] <eneska18> i don;t have emulator windows
[09:40] <dooglus> erisco: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <DShepherd> metacity --replace works fine
[09:41] <DShepherd> compiz --replace kills all window manger functionality
[09:41] <Thunderbird> anyone here has experience with hotplug on dapper?
[09:41] <Thunderbird> I'm trying to get hotplug installed again (using the breezy package)
[09:41] <thegladiator> someone who has got the evolution working for gmail ?
[09:41] <elvirolo> hi all
[09:41] <thegladiator> i cant connect to pop
[09:41] <Thunderbird> it installs 'fine' but various files aren't installed for some reason
[09:41] <thegladiator> actaully no were I have given my gmail password
[09:41] <farous> thegladiator: lol me no prob what so ever
[09:41] <elvirolo> can anoyne please tell me how to access NFS shares on a Ubuntu box ?
[09:41] <thegladiator> I dont know where to feed it
[09:42] <thegladiator> farous, where did you give the password?
[09:42] <farous> thegladiator: funny realplayer pluging does not work here though ;)
[09:42] <farous> thegladiator: first you need to enable email forwarding from gmail website
[09:42] <dooglus> thegladiator: I got evolution 'working' with gmail once - you have to set the port, login method, and other stuff.  the help on gmail.com is useful - look at how to config outlook & take it from there
[09:42] <thegladiator> farous, it doesnt work here as well mate ...we were discussing that , actually it says Available...
[09:42] <eneska18> .
[09:42] <eneska18> .
[09:42] <eneska18> .
[09:42] <farous> thegladiator: and it will ask you for the pass the first time you use it
[09:42] <thegladiator> farous, forwarding done
[09:42] <eneska18> i must have emulator
[09:43] <Dav1d> alguien habla espaol?, speak spanish?
[09:43] <thegladiator> farous, use what ? it didnt ask for the password
[09:43] <Seveas> !es
[09:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:43] <Kyo> So ... is ubuntu main server back up yet?
[09:43] <dooglus> thegladiator: the problem was that once it was working, every time I did a 'send and receive' or whatever it's called, it would get only 3 to 10 emails from the server.  it was going to take a week or so of click that button to get all my mail.
[09:43] <DShepherd> Dav1d, try #ubuntu-es
[09:43] <farous> thegladiator: when you first try recieving or sending
[09:43] <Seveas> Kyo, try instead of ask 
[09:43] <thegladiator> farous, ah it didn ask with me
[09:43] <thegladiator> dooglus, omg !
[09:43] <thegladiator> mayb I shud try thinderbird then ?
[09:44] <thegladiator> farous, it didnt ask pass for me oddly!
[09:44] <farous> thegladiator: ok open the account
[09:44] <dooglus> thegladiator: I think it's an issue at gmail's end - I tried with a different mail client and had the same problem
[09:44] <thegladiator> farous, yep I have it opened
[09:44] <thegladiator> never typed a password anywhere
[09:44] <farous> dooglus: evolution running here no problems at all and gmail my main mail server
[09:45] <farous> ok go to recieving mail
[09:45] <dooglus> thegladiator: of course, you can tell gmail "only make mail I receive from now on available via POP" - but I wanted all my old mail too
[09:45] <thegladiator> send /recv button I press and it trieds to connect to pop
[09:46] <thegladiator> it didnt ask for the password not even once!
[09:46] <farous> thegladiator: just let us set the window open the recieving email part
[09:46] <martinS> hi, want will procmail do without procmailrc?
[09:46] <instabin> composite is perty
[09:46] <thegladiator> 2.4.1 evolution
[09:46] <DShepherd> Is there a HOWTO on the forums on using the debs for XGl and compiz from the repos?
[09:46] <thegladiator> farous, how mate ?
[09:46] <farous> dooglus: and you can set it from gmail by selecting forwarding email after a specific date you can set it a year ago or whatever you want
[09:47] <farous> thegladiator: open mail accounts and edit your gmail account
[09:47] <Kyo> yay its back up
[09:47] <thegladiator> farous, yep what there ?
[09:48] <noteventime> yay! i got WPA working :)
[09:48] <farous> ok you have a sub menus identity> recieving mail> ... press the recieving email one
[09:48] <Kyo> noteventime yay ... and stuff
[09:48] <thegladiator> yepp
[09:48] <farous> ok server type pop
[09:48] <farous> server pop.gmail.com
[09:48] <thegladiator> correct
[09:48] <thegladiator> okie
[09:48] <farous> username your username@gmail.com
[09:48] <farous> do not forget the @gmail.com part
[09:49] <thegladiator> i did forget that :-)
[09:49] <farous> use secure connection always
[09:49] <oklinux> hey trappist got the printer working
[09:49] <farous> authentication type Password
[09:49] <thegladiator> ah thats the mistake @gmail.com part
[09:49] <farous> and remember password
[09:49] <thegladiator> and check remeber password ?
[09:49] <thegladiator> yepp
[09:50] <thegladiator> ok ? :-)
[09:50] <farous> to check press the check for supported types before you close
[09:50] <farous> thegladiator: now close and the way we go ;)
[09:50] <thegladiator> perfect yep :)ty
[09:51] <farous> thegladiator: do nto forget to set the sending email part too:)
[09:51] <thegladiator> farous, and hey that real player thing I feel it is a site architecture problem ?
[09:51] <thegladiator> yes
[09:51] <DShepherd> This is crazy!
[09:51] <farous> thegladiator: perhaps did not check other sites i just download now and view
[09:51] <kiko> does anyone have a mac mini?
[09:51] <thegladiator> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4721068.stm
[09:51] <DShepherd> They are posting faster than I can read in the forums
[09:51] <thegladiator> you can try the video ther it works
[09:51] <thegladiator> I am mailing those site ppl!
[09:51] <kiko> the mixer appears to be unsupported in breezy -- fact/fiction?
[09:52] <thegladiator> hmm playing with me ?
[09:52] <thegladiator> :-)
[09:52] <tafsen> Im following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport , but I can't manage to find java-package with apt
[09:53] <_jason> tafsen: have you enabled multiverse?
[09:53] <Seveas> !find java-package
[09:53] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[09:53] <thegladiator> farous, i was trying to send a mail
[09:53] <thegladiator> MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first 39sm1565966nzk
[09:53] <swistak> hey, anyone know if it's possible to unrar files inside tar without first untaring it and then unraring. just like with gzip ?
[09:54] <tafsen> _jason: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?
[09:54] <farous> thegladiator: did you set the send mail part the same way username@gmail.com
[09:54] <_jason> tafsen: huh?
[09:54] <Seveas> thegladiator, you need to make it use ssl for smtp...
[09:55] <tafsen> _jason: that adress?? breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:55] <mlopes_> hi. is there any way to set up the chosen OS on GRUB before restarting?
[09:55] <thegladiator> farous, Seveas  yaah thats correct
[09:55] <thehil> can anyone here help me test gnomemeeting by calling t30.homelinux.org ?
[09:55] <farous> thegladiator: ok do you have it opened
[09:55] <_jason> tafsen: find the lines that say 'breezy', not 'breezy-backports'
[09:55] <thegladiator> farous, yep I did that but...
[09:55] <thegladiator> authentication ?
[09:55] <thegladiator> PLAIN ? POP before SMTP ?
[09:56] <thegladiator> plain is okay enuf correct ?
[09:56] <farous> server type smtp
[09:56] <tafsen> _jason: I don't have any that just say breezy multiverse
[09:56] <_jason> tafsen: most likely, you need to add a 'multiverse' everywhere you see a 'universe'
[09:56] <farous> and plain is ok
[09:56] <_jason> tafsen: are you comfortable editing that file or would you rather read instructions on using synaptic?
[09:56] <farous> server smtp.gmail.com
[09:56] <thegladiator> thanks yep got it working now
[09:57] <farous> great take care
[09:57] <thegladiator> thanks you too
[09:57] <farous> uw:)
[09:57] <tafsen> _jason: I can edit source.list if that's what you mean
[09:58] <pianoboy3333> is today update day or something?
[09:58] <_jason> tafsen: ok, do you understand what you have to do?
[09:59] <tafsen> _jason: Im just gonna write multiverse everywhere I see universe?
[09:59] <SpecialBuddy> is there a way to install ubuntu without gnome or kde
[09:59] <_jason> tafsen: yes
[09:59] <_jason> tafsen: well, you are going to write 'universe multiverse' everywhere you see 'universe', to be clear
[10:00] <tafsen> _jason: ok. What does that do really?
[10:00] <pianoboy3333> SpecialBuddy, I was kinda wondering that too........... Like, is there a way to install ubuntu with just the terminal tho....
[10:00] <SpecialBuddy> yeah
[10:00] <_jason> tafsen: that adds the multiverse repository, which is where that package is
[10:00] <SpecialBuddy> I just want a terminal and that's about it
[10:00] <SpecialBuddy> maybe fluxbox
[10:00] <dabaR> the special buddy...
[10:00] <SpecialBuddy> hi hi
[10:00] <nm> my sources list for apt-get
[10:01] <pianoboy3333> Is there anyway to get some type of linux on a comp w/ only a floppy drive?
[10:01] <nm> is up at http://egremont.dyndns.org/
[10:01] <nm> tafsen
[10:01] <nm> ;/
[10:01] <Kyo> whats the difference between breezy and horay besides from stability and security improvement?
[10:01] <pianoboy3333> It's a REALLY old thinkpad
[10:01] <dooglus> pianoboy3333: I've done it before
[10:01] <dabaR> SpecialBuddy: install with the server option, then install x-window-system-core, and openbox
[10:01] <nm> hmm
[10:01] <nm> or not
[10:01] <nm> one sec
[10:01] <Xappe> i'm trying to install breezy server on a p2-366. I've purchased a new 40 GB maxtor that BIOS detects at startup. But when installing the installer hangs at 41% when starting the partitioner ("Scanning disks..." Suggestions?
[10:01] <pianoboy3333> dooglus: w/ wat?
[10:01] <dooglus> pianoboy3333: a long time ago, with SLS
[10:01] <MisterN> n8
[10:01] <tafsen> _jason: Like this? http://pastebin.com/558327
[10:01] <dooglus> pianoboy3333: it came on about 20 floppies :)
[10:01] <pianoboy3333> woa
[10:02] <dabaR> Xappe: check disc integrity, notice the c vs. k
[10:02] <_jason> tafsen: yep
[10:02] <pianoboy3333> wine 0.9.8 is taking 4ever....
[10:02] <nm> http://egremont.dyndns.org/apt/sources.list
[10:02] <nm> ;p
[10:02] <Xappe> dabaR: how?
[10:02] <Kyo> pianoboy3333, I wonder if you have an ethernet with that laptop? you can install via network
[10:03] <SpecialBuddy> there's a server option on the ubuntu install?
[10:03] <pianoboy3333> Kyo, nope..... it's running win 3.1 now...
[10:03] <tafsen> _jason: thx :)
[10:03] <Xappe> SpecialBuddy: yes
[10:03] <_jason> tafsen: np
[10:03] <dabaR> SpecialBuddy: it is an option, it says when you start, for normal start, press enter, for server, type in server, I think the option is server
[10:03] <farous> ok a quick question to switch from static ip to dhcp do all i need is just comment the static ip in the network/interfaces file or do i need to specifically say use dhcp
[10:04] <dabaR> Xappe: it is an option in the install CD, you hit escape to get to it.
[10:04] <SpecialBuddy> so I just want the server install and then apt-get the rest?
[10:04] <prada_> Seveas: Can you giveme an insight as to how the Ubuntu release cycle connected to Debian ?  ... is it more closely tied to testing or  unstable for Debian ?
[10:04] <dabaR> Xappe: or you can md5sum the iso, and then compare the result to the proper number.
[10:04] <DShepherd> Ah
[10:04] <dabaR> SpecialBuddy: ya, that is what I said.
[10:04] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[10:04] <Seveas> prada_, unstable (see wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/debian)
[10:04] <Kyo> pianoboy3333: LOL ... dunno. I guess you can try those micro-linux that fits in a floppy disk
[10:04] <SpecialBuddy> sounds good
[10:04] <farous> SpecialBuddy: do not make a server install if you are planning on using X or using it as a desktop for light desktop check xubuntu
[10:04] <pianoboy3333> hmm....
[10:04] <Seveas> err
[10:04] <SpecialBuddy> thanks dabar
[10:04] <Seveas> !debain
[10:04] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:05] <Seveas> !debian
[10:05] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[10:05] <DShepherd> compiz should come with it's own gnome-window-decoration?
[10:05] <Seveas> prada_, --^
[10:05] <SpecialBuddy> xubuntu
[10:05] <Seveas> !tell DShepherd about xgl
[10:05] <Xappe> dabaR: ah, the disc is ok...I think it has something to do with hardware or BIOS
[10:05] <farous> ubuntu with xfce as defaul
[10:05] <prada_> Seveas: thanks
[10:05] <pianoboy3333> Seveas: how/what parts is ubuntu based on debian?
[10:05] <dabaR> Xappe: you checked the disc?
[10:05] <DShepherd> Seveas, Much thanks
[10:05] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, look at the url ubotu gave
[10:05] <Xappe> dabaR: i've used it for other installs
[10:06] <Thunderbird> in general what modules are these days needed for usb mouses and keyboards?
[10:06] <Thunderbird> I need to get mine up by hand
[10:06] <Thunderbird> without hotplug / murasaki
[10:06] <Thunderbird> tried lots of different combinations but can't get either of them working
[10:06] <ale_> ciao
[10:06] <dabaR> ciao tutti
[10:08] <andriijas> whats the difference between installing using default ubuntu inistall cd and selecting server install and using ubuntu-server cd ?
[10:08] <ale_> c'  qualcuno che parla italiano?
[10:08] <thegladiator> the gmail doesnt delete the mails even if I use POP ?  and it also stores the sent mail list and Inbox list at the server even if I do a POP rcieve ?
[10:09] <thegladiator> using evolution on Ubuntu
[10:09] <nm> thegladiator: you can set your POP preferences from the gmail web UI
[10:09] <psusi> thegladiator: no... pop just downloads messages from the server and usually deletes them
[10:09] <Seveas> !it
[10:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:09] <nm> it isn't evolution settings that are to blame
[10:09] <pianoboy3333> What would be a reason not to upgrade ubuntu? How come some people are still running hoary and such?
[10:09] <psusi> thegladiator: send mail can not be placed on the server with pop... you need imap for that
[10:09] <nm> log into gmail with your browser and choose the 'settings' link
[10:09] <ale_> grazie a te!
[10:09] <ale_> ciao
[10:09] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, download limits for instance
[10:09] <thegladiator> psusi, seemingly I send a mail from Evolution and it is there in the sent mail folder
[10:09] <nm> pianoboy: laziness
[10:09] <Seveas> or simply hoary working just fine
[10:10] <psusi> thegladiator: then you are using imap, not pop
[10:10] <thegladiator> I send it from evolution expecting my browser based gmail.com wud know nothing...
[10:10] <pianoboy3333> Seveas: but breezy works fine too right?
[10:10] <nm> thegladiator: gmail's pop service is somewhat unique, as i said, check your settings
[10:10] <thegladiator> I am using POP and SMTP I guess,thats how I just configured...pop.gmail.com
[10:10] <nm> from the web interface
[10:10] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, sure, but if hoary works and is still supported, why go to breezy?
[10:10] <adub> anyone in here get the orinoco patch drivers working in kismet
[10:10] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, one of my servers still runs hoary 
[10:10] <adub> need to get monitor mode working
[10:11] <psusi> with imap the mail stays on the server... including sent mail... the server also keeps track of what messages you have read, and so on... with pop, all that is done on the client..
[10:11] <pianoboy3333> Seveas: 'cause it's the newest version.....?
[10:11] <nm> psusi: gmail doesn't support IMAP
[10:11] <psusi> mm: if that's the case then your sent mail wouldn't show up in their web interface
[10:11] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, that's not always top priority 
[10:11] <psusi> mm: and mail you read via the web interface would show up as unread when you open evolution
[10:11] <nm> psusi: IMAP has nothing to do with sent mail
[10:11] <thegladiator> in webinterface I go to setting and this is what I see...
[10:11] <naetrick> How do I tell apt not to check for updates for certain applications?
[10:11] <nm> he uses SMTP to send mail
[10:12] <nm> and POP to receive it
[10:12] <prada_> Seveas: isn't the frequent release cycle a sellng pont for Ubuntu ?
[10:12] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, if i were to deploy breezy instead of hoary on my cluster, I would need to go to the datacenter for installtests - takes time 
[10:12] <psusi> nm: imap allows your sent mail folder to be on the server instead of local
[10:12] <naetrick> For example, I don't want it to check for updates for linux-tree, linux-source, etc. Also, do you know when MythTV 0.19 will be "in apt"?
[10:12] <nm> psusi: no, IMAP is a protocol used to receive mail
[10:12] <nm> not send it
[10:12] <Ramunas> Seveas how do you insert that smile?
[10:12] <thegladiator> there is this options...
[10:12] <Seveas> prada_, for home users yes, for servers: no, there the long term support is the selling point
[10:12] <nm> as i said, what appears in your 'Sent Items' folder has nothing to do with IMAP
[10:12] <psusi> nm: I'm not talking about sending... I'm talking about the copy that is kept in your "Sent Mail" folder
[10:12] <thegladiator> when messages are acessed with POP keep Gmails copy in the Inbox!
[10:12] <Seveas> in 4 years from now my servers most ikely still run dapper
[10:12] <nm> psusi: only mail you were 'sending' at some point would appear in your 'sent mail' folder
[10:13] <Seveas> thegladiator, that's configurable
[10:13] <nm> thegladiator: yes, you can change that option
[10:13] <psusi> nm: with pop it just downloads all messages into local folders, including inbox and sent mail is kept local.. with imap, sent mail is on the server so when you send messages, the copy is stored on the server
[10:13] <dooglus> Does Gmail support IMAP? ( http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10339&topic=1555 ) Gmail doesn't currently support IMAP access. As part of our ongoing commitment to give our users easy access to their email, we have introduced POP access. We look forward to announcing other new features as they become available.
[10:13] <thegladiator> Seveas, thats configurable ...but it is alwso working with Send mails
[10:13] <Docta> How do I set up dual monitors in Xorg?  Does it have a configurator like xf86config?
[10:13] <thegladiator> thats nice
[10:13] <prada_> Seveas: would you compare dapper to say debian stable at that tme ?
[10:13] <nm> psusi: again, you're incorrect, the protocol used to receive mail has nothing to do with the 'sent' folder
[10:13] <nm> since you send mail with SMTP
[10:13] <thegladiator> actually I want everything to rmain As it is even if I use evolution...
[10:13] <thegladiator> I want nothing to be deleted or something ...just as it was before..
[10:14] <psusi> nm: IMAP allows you to upload messages to the server... this is how the sent mail folder can exist on the server
[10:14] <Seveas> prada, it'll still be dapper, what's released in april '06 plus security updates
[10:14] <thegladiator> So I gues this one is perfect gor me right ?
[10:14] <thegladiator> I see
[10:14] <nm> psusi: that isn't true
[10:14] <psusi> nm: yes, it is
[10:14] <Seveas> prada_, and most likely a few backports
[10:14] <nm> no, it really isn't
[10:14] <SAAD3000> guys is it okey if my wireless lan led light doesn't flash on when i activate the device???
[10:14] <psusi> nm: go read the RFC, or if you are too lazy to do that, use an imap server and copy a message to a folder on the server... you can't do that with pop
[10:14] <thegladiator> nm, so it just keeps a copy of send mails you mean ?
[10:15] <dooglus> psusi: google claim not to support IMAP.  what do you know that they don't?
[10:15] <thegladiator> psusi, its working with me with POP mayb IMOP is configured them
[10:15] <DCCOLE> *** SDL version 1.2.3 not found!
[10:15] <psusi> thegladiator: are you just talking about your inbox or the sent mail folder?
[10:15] <nm> psusi: i'm well aware that IMAP allows you to do that
[10:15] <thegladiator> i dont know
[10:15] <DCCOLE> how do i fix
[10:15] <nm> but you don't SEND mail with IMAP
[10:15] <thegladiator> sent mail folder psusi
[10:15] <Seveas> !tell DCCOLE about compiling
[10:15] <prada_> Seveas:  I really am trying to undestand the entire release cycles for distros here ... not specfcally ubuntu , since it's very obvious that desktop tech. is movng at a much quicker rate than say the core system ..
[10:15] <tsw> uh 666 opples here
[10:15] <psusi> nm: I never said you did... I said the "Sent Mail" folder can only be on the server with imap
[10:15] <nm> psusi: but that isn't at all the case
[10:15] <Seveas> prada_, for Ubuntu the release cycle is: release every april and october, 18 months security support for every release
[10:16] <dooglus> psusi: google's SMTP server puts the sent mail into the sent 'folder'
[10:16] <thegladiator> I send a mail from Evoolution , there was a copy at Gmail's sned folder of the same....
[10:16] <nm> too much time reading RFCs has fried your brain
[10:16] <thegladiator> dooglus, that explains it I guess thanks ...
[10:16] <nm> if you're making that assumption
[10:16] <Seveas> prada_, and every approx. 2 years there will be a release with 3 (desktop) to 5 (server) year support
[10:16] <psusi> dooglus: ohh... that's odd... that wouldn't work very well if you don't use their smtp server then.. heh
[10:16] <DCCOLE> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[10:16] <nm> psusi: except that it records mail you send using their web interface in the 'sent items' folder as well
[10:17] <thegladiator> so in shout dooglus gmail works as if I dont have evolution running right ?
[10:17] <prada_> Seveas: any info / roadmap on the wiki ?
[10:17] <Seveas> DCCOLE, read the documentation of whatever you are compiling....
[10:17] <thegladiator> short*
[10:17] <dooglus> psusi: if you don't use gmail's server to send mail, why would you expect the sent mail to end up in your gmail account?
[10:17] <psusi> nm: right... it's a bit odd to do that on the smtp server side of things... the smtp server isn't supposed to know or care about your inbox
[10:17] <mazatl> Hello, my sound does not work and I try to run 'alsaconf'
[10:17] <psusi> nm: when you are sending to someone else that is
[10:17] <mazatl> but it says command not found
[10:17] <dooglus> thegladiator: "in shout"?  what's shout?
[10:17] <FlyingSquirrel32> If i put a script in init.d and a link in rcS.d, will it be run as root?
[10:18] <psusi> dooglus: I wouldn't expect it to end up there either way... that's odd that they hacked their smtp server to do that
[10:18] <thegladiator> dooglus, sorry short*
[10:18] <Seveas> prada_, that IS the roadmap  the roadmap per release is determined on the semi-anually Ubuntu conferences, the one for dapper is at DapperRoadmap on the wiki iirc
[10:18] <thegladiator> so in short dooglus gmail works as if I dont have evolution running right ?
[10:18] <Seveas> FlyingSquirrel32, yes
[10:18] <Elreino> anyone can help me? my gnome lags
[10:18] <nm> we archived sent mail server-side
[10:18] <dooglus> thegladiator: oh, i see.  I didn't stick with the evolution/gmail combination for more than an hour or so.  it just wasn't working well for me.
[10:18] <nm> using SMTP
[10:18] <nm> and by 'we' i mean the isp i worked at before i started school
[10:18] <thegladiator> ah
[10:19] <nm> whatever you like sir
[10:19] <DCCOLE> how do i install SDL
[10:19] <Seveas> DCCOLE, read the wikipage ubotu sent you...
[10:19] <fishdish> what about running Ubuntu on a MIPS processor? the next computer i have is a MIPS -based development board that represents a handheld. If i build a Debian kernel with MIPS support and then build Ubuntu on top of it, will it work?
[10:19] <thegladiator> it seems even if I have my POP running and evolution downloads or sends the mail , gmail takes it as if it is done in the web interface!
[10:19] <FlyingSquirrel32> Seveas: any ideas why I might be able to run the link with sudo but when I restart the machine it doens't?
[10:19] <psusi> nm: that's an odd thing to do... usually the smtp server just forwards mail to another smtp server, or drops it in the local user's mailbox...
[10:19] <nm> odd is a relative term
[10:19] <Seveas> fishdish, possibly, but you're the first to do that so you WILL run into problems. Better use debian 
[10:20] <psusi> nm: with that kind of hack, you will not get mail in your gmail sent folder if you don't use their smtp server, and your local sent mail folder in evolution isn't sycned with the gmail one
[10:20] <DCCOLE> i did but it says cant find SDL
[10:20] <psusi> would be much better to use imap
[10:20] <mazatl> Hi, I have no sound on my fresh Ubuntu install, what do I have to run?
[10:20] <thegladiator> well I guess gmail's plicy is unique actually
[10:20] <nm> psusi: if you use their web UI or their smtp server
[10:20] <Seveas> FlyingSquirrel32, depends on the name it has  in rcS.d and what it does
[10:20] <nm> it will still end up in the sent folder
[10:20] <psusi> nm: right....
[10:20] <slide23> Im trying to think of the name of another http server (now apache), its got a paper airplaine as its logo, does anyone know what im talking about? hehe
[10:21] <psusi> nm: but use evolution with another smtp server and it won't... an now evolution is keeping a local sent mail folder that is out of sync with the gmail one
[10:21] <nm> and?
[10:21] <prada_> Seveas: Yes, I am aware of that ... I'm pokng for the server/desktop "versions" info  if you could so call it for Ubuntu ... I'm looking at macro stuff in the sense that how would a dapper server install compare to more commercial offerngs and the viability at the time of release
[10:21] <thegladiator> nm, so I can just hook up any of my accounts and download everything without losing the copy in gmail
[10:21] <thegladiator> ?
[10:21] <nm> if you use a different smtp server you obviously have two mail accounts
[10:21] <nm> thegladiator: yes, as long as your gmail settings are configured as such
[10:21] <nm> just make sure it is set to keep messages
[10:21] <nm> even after they are downloaded using POP
[10:21] <psusi> nm: you wouldn't have that problem if you used imap... plus the problem of the read status of the messages aren't in sync, so if you read it on the web, then open evoluiton, it shows up as unread
[10:21] <thegladiator> Yepp
[10:22] <nm> well, send an email to the gmail team
[10:22] <nm> and suggest they implement IMAP
[10:22] <thegladiator> years back when I did this , they killed the mail !
[10:22] <Seveas> prada_, terrible. The good thing about RHEL and SLES is being certified for all kinds of commercial products. Ubuntu is just starting its certification programme (the only certification so far is DB2).
[10:22] <nm> but they have the web interface, imap isn't really necessary
[10:22] <nm> imo
[10:22] <thegladiator> thats why I never bothered to use a client ...
[10:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> Seveas: didn't know name matters. name: kdc.sh code:domainname home   /usr/sbin/krb5kdc
[10:22] <psusi> nm: so?  usually you're going to use a local smtp server from your isp... you're perfectly free to do so and send mail with the From: field identifying your gmail account instead
[10:22] <thegladiator> which one is better thunderbird or evolution any opinions ?
[10:23] <Seveas> FlyingSquirrel32, rename the link to S99kdc.sh
[10:23] <nm> psusi: not if your isp knows anything about properly configuring their smtp servers
[10:23] <nm> heh
[10:23] <Thunderbird> hi
[10:23] <psusi> nm: unless you prefer to use a real mail cleint to the web interface and keep them in sync
[10:23] <Thunderbird> is there anything needed to get udev working?
[10:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> Seveas: ok. why?
[10:23] <Thunderbird> I can't get my usb mouse and keyboard working
[10:23] <Thunderbird> it worked before
[10:23] <adub> will ndiswrapper allow my wifi card to go into monitor mode??
[10:23] <Seveas> FlyingSquirrel32, only S* and K* scripts are run (Start and Kill)
[10:23] <nm> what isp are you using that doesn't require you to properly authenticate with your isp assigned email address and send from it only?
[10:23] <Seveas> adub, no
[10:24] <nm> haha
[10:24] <DCCOLE> Where Can i Find the SDL
[10:24] <nm> i'll sell the name of it to spammers
[10:24] <DCCOLE> AND WHAT IS IT???
[10:24] <nm> they'll sign up right away
[10:24] <nm> ;p
[10:24] <psusi> nm: wrong... their server accepts messages from you because you are in their network... smtp servers don't check the From header, you can put whatever you like there.. I have 6 email accounts but I allways use my local smtp server for all of them
[10:24] <fishdish> Seveas ... okays. I just think that it would be nice to have the device with ubuntu. Debian would run on it anyways
[10:24] <thegladiator> in thy opinion , Evolution orThunderbird ?
[10:24] <Seveas> DCCOLE, if you had actually read the page: apt-cache search sdl | grep dev
[10:24] <prada_> Seveas: hmmm ... any idea on the kind of certifications ?
[10:24] <FlyingSquirrel32> Seveas: oh. slight technicality :) and the 99?
[10:24] <amphi> DCCOLE: don't shout - apt-cache search sdl
[10:24] <adub> seveas do you know anything about getting an orinoco gold in monitor mode this card i have been following the tutorial on ubuntuforums but no luck on the tutorial i error on #make
[10:24] <fishdish> &me is going to shuffle the debian docs...
[10:25] <wastrel> hi
[10:25] <Seveas> prada_, things like oracle and other commercial software, similarly to RHEL and SLES - with the big difference that SLES and RHEL are quite expensive and Ubuntu is free
[10:25] <nm> psusi: well i wouldn't do that
[10:25] <nm> nor would any security minded individuals i know
[10:25] <Seveas> prada_, you really should contact canonical if you want more info
[10:25] <nm> i'm not saying you can't, and if you want to
[10:25] <nm> and are concerned
[10:25] <nm> as i said
[10:26] <[Jonne] > does anyone have problems reaching the repo's?
[10:26] <nm> send an email from one of your six accounts
[10:26] <nm> to the gmail team
[10:26] <adub> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131197&highlight=orinoco       <------ to anyone that can help me with orinoco patch drivers there is my output
[10:26] <psusi> nm: wouldn't do what?  use the closest and fastest server availible? rather than one half way across the world?
[10:26] <nm> expressing your interest in IMAP
[10:26] <erik__> Hello all
[10:26] <steen>  Hey there. I need help connecting my stationary to my laptop via ieee1394. I got the eth1394 up and running and I can ping with answer. Now what? Laptop Ubunti live, stationary SimplyMepis. Need to move some files thats all...
[10:26] <mazatl> How do I configure sound if alsaconf does not work?
[10:26] <psusi> nm: I don't have a gmail account... so I don't really care...
[10:26] <nm> i use the smtp server of the company who's assigned me the address
[10:26] <Seveas> prada_, they can give much more (and much more accurate) info - I am not too interestedd in that part of Ubuntu and have not been following it very well
[10:26] <nm> and i don't allow open use of any smtp server i am in charge of
[10:27] <Seveas> nm, why not, spammeers would love you 
[10:27] <[Jonne] > i can reach archive.ubuntu.org fine on one box (by pinging it), but if i do apt-get update, it returns 'temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[10:27] <wastrel> what's the program that identifies the os over the network?
[10:27] <psusi> nm: it isn't an open relay... the server checks your IP addy to see if you are ok to send, or requires you to login... it never looks at the From field...
[10:27] <crimsun> wastrel: nmap
[10:27] <nm> seveas: i got too much love where i worked before
[10:27] <nm> :D
[10:27] <Xenguy> 0/b
[10:27] <Seveas> hehe
[10:27] <[Jonne] > wastrel: you mean nmap?
[10:27] <Xenguy> sorry
[10:27] <psusi> nm: a lot of people at work are behind a firewall and can't directly reach outside smtp servers.. in that case, you have to use the local smtp server
[10:28] <Seveas> psusi, that's why they invented tunnelling 
[10:28] <psusi> Seveas: no need... just give it to the company smtp server and let it worry about delivering it
[10:28] <wastrel> heh ok yes it is nmap
[10:28] <prada_> Seveas: yeah ... thanks anyway.
[10:28] <wastrel> there was a separate one once upon a time
[10:28] <wastrel> iirc
[10:29] <wastrel> i forgot nmap can do that :] 
[10:29] <nm> nmap with the -O option attempts to do o/s fingerprinting
[10:29] <nm> works best if there is at least one open port, and one port that isn't firewalled, but is still closed
[10:29] <eugman> How can I check my local ip?
[10:29] <mark__> can someone reccomend me a code editor to use that supports python, perl, php etc
[10:29] <Seveas> mark__, vim
[10:29] <amphi> eugman: ifconfig
[10:29] <wastrel> eugman:  nmap localhost
[10:30] <farous> mark__: for python spe is great
[10:30] <nm> lol
[10:30] <farous> mark__: but you might consider eclipse
[10:30] <eugman> thanks
[10:30] <DCCOLE> okay but what packade do i use
[10:30] <steen> I need help connecting my stationary to my laptop via ieee1394. I got the eth1394 up and running and I can ping with answer. Now what? Laptop Ubunti live, stationary SimplyMepis. Need to move some files thats all...
[10:30] <DCCOLE> it still say sdl version 1.2.3  isnt installed????
[10:30] <mark__> farous, eclipse works with a wide range of things?
[10:30] <Seveas> DCCOLE, libsdl1.2-dev
[10:30] <mark__> I tried vim
[10:30] <amphi> DCCOLE: install the dev package
[10:31] <farous> yap and thats the beauty of it
[10:31] <mark__> but it was a bit strange
[10:31] <Seveas> mark__, hehe 
[10:31] <mark__> I thought eclipse only supported java
[10:31] <mark__> :\
[10:31] <amphi> mark__: heresy!
[10:31] <Seveas> mark__, pyclipse plugin 
[10:31] <Ramunas> Seveas how do you put that smile?
[10:31] <farous> lol i found woring with vim a little bit strange too
[10:31] <Seveas> Ramunas, x-chat autoreplace can do funny things
[10:32] <amphi> farous: whoring with vim??
[10:32] <farous> trying to use it amphi is a better way to put it
[10:32] <farous> any way quite happy with spe
[10:33] <Seveas> !test
[10:33] <ubotu> Crashed.
[10:33] <Seveas> !no
[10:33] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[10:33] <nm> lol
[10:33] <nm> hot for emacs and imap
[10:33] <nm> i should have known
[10:33] <nm> ;D
[10:34] <adub> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131197&highlight=orinoco       <------ to anyone that can help me with orinoco patch drivers there is my output
[10:34] <cyphase> *sigh*
[10:35] <nm> pfft
[10:35] <nm> way to cover your tracks
[10:35] <nm> ;/
[10:35] <amphi> cyphase: you are t3h 3vil ;)
[10:35] <mark__> hrrm
[10:35] <cyphase> haha
[10:35] <cyphase> well, not accused exactly..
[10:35] <mark__> can someone give me a sudo apt-get install thingy to download eclipse plugins to support python'/perl/php
[10:35] <mark__> :|
[10:35] <cyphase> but the guy pretty much told everyone that i'd hacked into it
[10:35] <nm> cyphase: prove you didn't, sue for slander/libel
[10:35] <wastrel> ok for my next trick, i have a nice blue gnome theme, and changed the gdm theme to a nice blue one, but the gnome loading screen is still the brown human theme - how do i change that?
[10:35] <nm> call it a day
[10:35] <nm> call it a win
[10:36] <LinuxJones> my fonts look a bit edgy on new laptop can someone help ?
[10:36] <wastrel> <3 imap
[10:36] <cyphase> nm, i've been thinking about it :P
[10:36] <psusi> I set up an imap server at work and a little bash script to fetch lkml messages from lkml.org... ~17000 messages since jan 1 and it's working perfectly... heh
[10:36] <wastrel> i'm setting it up today
[10:36] <nm> imap is cool when you want to be checking the same mail from a bunch of different places
[10:36] <nm> thats where POP becomes super-annoying
[10:36] <wastrel> haven't bothered for a few months since i installed ubuntu but i looooved having imap
[10:36] <psusi> nm: exactly
[10:36] <wastrel> it's also good if you like to try different mail clients
[10:36] <paquin> hi there
[10:36] <cyphase> all i did was boot a linux live cd on a desktop computer there
[10:36] <wastrel> evo/thunderbird/sylpheed/balsa
[10:36] <wastrel> etc
[10:37] <paquin> is there a way to change the image that is shown when ubuntu is loading??
[10:37] <amphi> cyphase: really? and the dunce said you were 'hacking'?
[10:37] <Seveas> !tell paquin about usplash
[10:37] <amphi> wastrel: you forgot mutt ;)
[10:37] <nm> sounds like physical security at that 'college' site is excellent
[10:37] <wastrel> amphi:  well mutt goes without saying :] 
[10:37] <cyphase> amphi, he got the information from someone else
[10:37] <nm> if you were able to just toss in a CD and boot from it
[10:38] <cyphase> amphi, and that person happens to be offended by me
[10:38] <cyphase> for whatever reason
[10:38] <cyphase> so he might just be repeating false information from someone else
[10:38] <cyphase> and you know how they have monitoring programs on school computers..
[10:38] <polpak> farous, agreed. That would be nice. Someone should make a plugin
[10:39] <amphi> farous: in its advanced stages, the tab-disease makes you attempt to tab-complete words as you think them
[10:39] <DCCOLE> what is libjpeg??
[10:39] <cyphase> i think he might have sniffed my password when i tried to SSH into this computer from there
[10:39] <nm> cyphase: so why are you booting from a livecd if you arn't the administrator?
[10:39] <wastrel> anyone know how to re-theme the gnome loading screen?  i don't like the brown default theme
[10:39] <farous> amphi: lol :)
[10:39] <amphi> DCCOLE: a library for reading/writing jpeg image files, startlingly
[10:39] <cyphase> nm, i wanted to see if it would work, because they had this hardware protection thing
[10:39] <farous> polpak: :)
[10:39] <cyphase> not very good, consdiering it worked :P
[10:39] <DCCOLE> okay do you know the package name???
[10:39] <polpak> cyphase, how could he sniff the password from ssh ? it's encrypted... ?
[10:40] <wastrel> keylogger
[10:40] <nm> polpak: a keylogger?
[10:40] <cyphase> polpak, i meant keylogged
[10:40] <amphi> farous: there is a perl script for irssi that lets you tab-complete all words ;)
[10:40] <cyphase> so i've changed it
[10:40] <polpak> cyphase, but weren't you using a linux live cd?
[10:40] <amphi> DCCOLE: apt-cache search libjpeg
[10:40] <farous> amphi: am using tab completion on irssi but not for all words will go hunt it down then :)
[10:41] <cyphase> polpak, yes
[10:41] <amphi> farous: it's on/linked from irssi.org
[10:41] <pianoboy3333> It seems there was a new kernel today?
[10:41] <amphi> farous: needless to say, it's almost unusable
[10:41] <cyphase> pianoboy3333, yes
[10:41] <polpak> pianoboy3333, yes, and a new version of wine from winehq
[10:41] <farous> amphi: :(
[10:41] <pianoboy3333> cyphase: right
[10:41] <cyphase> polpak, and it isn't downloading, probably because traffic :)
[10:42] <xualo> root@linux:/# apt-get install mplayer
[10:42] <xualo> Reading package lists... Done
[10:42] <xualo> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:42] <xualo> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[10:42] <xualo> <---- any reason why cant find the package on the net?
[10:42] <pianoboy3333> cyphase: yet grub only shows the 12-10? Correct? or do i have to fix it?
[10:42] <cyphase> polpak, i mean wine
[10:42] <polpak> cyphase, yeah, I had to retry like 20 times to get the whole thing
[10:42] <cyphase> pianoboy3333, it's an update to 12-10
[10:42] <cyphase> pianoboy3333, so it'll sill say 12-10
[10:42] <pianoboy3333> cyphase: and the loading screen is blue?
[10:42] <eugman> Hey any ideas why ssh -X might now be having any effect different from ssh?
[10:42] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Please help me! How can I reload Grub to MBR after reinstalling Windows XP?
[10:42] <slide23> Has anyone setup lighttp on ubuntu or know of a guide/deb for it?
[10:43] <cyphase> pianoboy3333, huh? mine was the same.. at least the kernel boot. i didn't go into the grub menu
[10:43] <cyphase> polpak, i haven't quite hit 20 yet :P
[10:43] <nm> ltibor65: just run grub-install again
[10:43] <nm> normally if you want to dual-boot, it saves a lot of hassle to install windows first
[10:43] <eugman> ltibor65 I used the installcd to reinstall but leaving the filestructure intact but I'm pretty sure there is a less messy way
[10:43] <amphi> ltibor65: I would boot from cd, mount the hd / somewhere, chroot to it, and run grub-install - but there may be a better way(tm)
[10:44] <xualo> anyone please?
[10:44] <LinuxJones> Argh someone please help my fonts look like crap on notebooks' LCD screen !!
[10:44] <Drac[Server] > I want to install a new sound card in this machine. What will I need to do to get it to work if it doesn't right away?
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> cyphase: what is the kernel, it's not a different version of ubuntu? What would happen if I ran the 12-9?
[10:44] <eugman> Hey what difference does the -X in ssh -X supposed to do exactly?
[10:44] <nm> xualo: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28MPlayer.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[10:44] <trappist> eugman: it allows X forwarding
[10:44] <Seveas> eugman, on a default ubuntu system: nothing ;)
[10:44] <wastrel> eugman:  man ssh  baby
[10:45] <trappist> eugman: so you can run gui apps on the remote machine, and they'll display locally
[10:45] <wastrel> i was thinking someone should write a man howto
[10:45] <eugman> Right any idea why it might not be doing that?
[10:45] <cyphase> pianoboy3333, it would run
[10:45] <Seveas> (eugman: that one is on by default in Ubuntu)
[10:45] <eugman> I have the ssh server set up but not configed
[10:45] <adub> what compiler matches the ubuntu kernel for 5.10/breezy
[10:45] <Seveas> eugman, the server has to allow it too (default Ubuntu does it)
[10:45] <trappist> adub: 3.4
[10:45] <wastrel> i definitely get a lot more out of man pages now that i've been using them for 10+ years  i would have loved some hints on reading them back when i was getting started
[10:45] <trappist> adub: gcc-3.4
[10:45] <eugman> do I have to open the program from the server like type firefox in terminal?
[10:45] <xualo> cheers nm
[10:46] <adub> trappist gez i still can not get these stupid drivers to compile properly i dont knwo what it could be
[10:46] <eugman> or is it supposed to be more like vnc
[10:46] <trappist> adub: what drivers, and what's the problem
[10:46] <Seveas> eugman, firefox and remote is stupid
[10:46] <nm> xualo: indeed, check out that site if you have more questions of that nature
[10:46] <Seveas> but for any other gui app: yes
[10:46] <Seveas> (in the terminal)
[10:46] <xualo> yeah for sure man
[10:46] <adub> orinoco gold patch drivers to get monitor mode working on my card with kismet
[10:46] <xualo> thanks alot for the link
[10:46] <xualo> :D
[10:46] <adub> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131197&highlight=orinoco       <------ to anyone that can help me with orinoco patch drivers there is my output
[10:46] <eugman> I have a diskless terminal running off a live cd. is it still dumb?
[10:47] <Merturk_NB> is there a radius server precompiled for ubuntu?
[10:47] <nm> merturk_NB: i don't know about precompiled, but try out freeradius
[10:47] <trappist> eugman: Seveas misspoke - it's *usually* dumb.  sometimes there are good reasons to do it.
[10:47] <adub> the above trappist is the error of my compile  and i did  CC=gcc-3.4 prior to compiling to make sure the correct compilier was used
[10:47] <nm> if you mean a binary package, i'm sure you can find one somewhere
[10:47] <nm> but it is a small package, easy to compile
[10:47] <Seveas> trappist, I mean that firefox is acting dumb when started remotely 
[10:48] <trappist> adub: someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think orinoco chipsets are supported by the madwifi drivers, which are shipped with ubuntu
[10:48] <eugman> ahhh
[10:48] <polpak> Merturk_NB, There's Freeradius, radiusd-cistron and radiusd-livingston
[10:48] <Merturk_NB> anything opensource for windows?
[10:48] <polpak> Merturk_NB, and xtradius
[10:48] <Seveas> Merturk_NB, this is #ubuntu, not #windows...
[10:48] <adub> trappist  yeah but monitor mode doesnt work my card does work properly but the monitor mode part of my card does not
[10:48] <eugman> Could you elaborate on the cognative impairment of a remotely used firefox?
[10:49] <Seveas> eugman, if you start it locally first and then try to start it remotely, it will simply open a new window locally
[10:49] <Seveas> and the other way around
[10:49] <eugman> ah k
[10:49] <Seveas> firefox is really annoying
[10:49] <Seveas> it has all kinds of 'features' like this
[10:49] <trappist> Seveas: yeah there is that.  I don't even know HOW it manages to screw that up.
[10:49] <eugman> as long as I can still do it remotely I can deal with that
[10:49] <trappist> so when I use firefox remotely, I use konqueror locally.
[10:50] <adub> trappist do you have any suggestions
[10:50] <farous> Seveas: but it is better then other browsers. Using opera9 preview2 myself but firefox for my needs is ok
[10:50] <adub> i mean i could copy my kismet.conf file but i dont think the problem is within that
[10:50] <eugman> now what were to happen if I were to use a gui-less live cd like salvare and typed firefox remotely? Big errors? Anyway to access gui over ssh?
[10:51] <Seveas> farous, opera s[censored] lls imho 
[10:51] <nm> eugman: likely errors about not being able to connect to a display
[10:51] <nm> heh
[10:51] <Seveas> I use firefox and sometimes epiphany
[10:51] <nm> brb, need food
[10:51] <wastrel> anyone know how i can change the theme of the gnome loading screen?  i changed gdm and gnome themes but the loading screen is still the brown human theme...
[10:51] <adub> actually brb i have a sure fire was to test if its kismet
[10:51] <adub> doubt it is though
[10:51] <farous> Seveas: scensored ? sorry did not understand :)
[10:51] <Seveas> farous, I said something quite negative, let's keep it at that 
[10:51] <polpak> wastrel, you're talking about after you enter your user/pass but before it loads your theme?
[10:52] <farous> Seveas: ok
[10:52] <trappist> adub: from that error message it looks like a bug in the driver code
[10:52] <wastrel> polpak:  yes, where it shows the status window for gnome startup
[10:52] <cyphase> how do you check ssh logs again?
[10:52] <trappist> adub: your kismet error message might be helpful
[10:52] <rambo3> http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[10:52] <wastrel> splash screen thx rambo
[10:53] <xualo> i think my apt-get its fu*#$##$  up its says this thing (E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386)
[10:53] <oklinux> any one here try mepis before jump to ubuntu ?
[10:53] <rambo3> and offcourse : http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0
[10:53] <farous> xualo: look at your source list you might need to enable extra repos and watch language here
[10:54] <Drac[Server] > I'm shocked... Still unanswered?
[10:54] <Rat> Hey, I was wondering if any of you guys knew of the following problem: After installing ubunt on my computer and it gets done installing the base system and it all I get this all colored screen.
[10:54] <rambo3> is mplayer in ubuntu repos? thay had some bad policy while making free software
[10:54] <Rat> And nothing runs
[10:55] <Seveas> !mplayer
[10:55] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:55] <DCCOLE> configure: error: SDL_image library
[10:55] <wastrel> rambo3:  it's in universe
[10:56] <wastrel> rambo3:  in breezy at least
[10:56] <thegladiator> hwo can I make thunderbird my default application ?
[10:56] <eugman> ok so is there any way to load a gui from the terminal or would that make things impossible because of the now obscured terminal
[10:56] <thegladiator> email app i.e
[10:56] <rambo3> more of a rethorical question
[10:56] <farous> thegladiator: goto prefereed application under system>pref
[10:56] <thegladiator> yep thank you
[10:56] <DCCOLE> configure: error: SDL_image library
[10:56] <farous> :)
[10:56] <prada_> DCCOLE: what about it
[10:57] <DCCOLE> how do i get it
[10:58] <prada_> the error or SDL_image ? :) .. apt-cache search sdl and install the lbsdl-dev package or something ...
[10:58] <Seveas> DCCOLE, *sigh* just read that wiki page about compiling, use apt-cache creatively and install what comes out of it...
[10:59] <cyphase> :O
[10:59] <nm> heh, is there a bind-chroot debian package?
[10:59] <cyphase> he tried to SSH into my computer..
[10:59] <DCCOLE> i tryed that no luck
[10:59] <nm> if not, there ought to be
[10:59] <Drac[Server] > I want to install a new sound card in this machine. What will I need to do to get it to work if it doesn't right away?
[10:59] <nm> i mean granted, it was quite easy to install bind in a chroot jail just using the normal package
[10:59] <nm> but still
[10:59] <Seveas> !find bind
[11:00] <thegladiator> farous, but what shud I type instaed of evolution %s in command line ? ( system-prefernces-prefered app
[11:00] <thegladiator> sorry got it :)
[11:00] <nm> thegladiator: thunderbird-bin?
[11:00] <slide23> Does anyone know of a how to or guide for creating a deb from some source for ubuntu?
[11:00] <farous> thegladiator: that for you to figure i use evolution exclusivley did not even bother to download thunderbird
[11:01] <thegladiator> not that nm
[11:01] <prada_> DCCOLE: libsdl-image1.2-dev
[11:01] <farous> thegladiator: try dpkg -L thunderbird |grep bin
[11:01] <nm> i only use thunderbird in mac os x
[11:01] <nm> for RSS feeds
[11:02] <progrock> anyone know how to play a 3gp file?
[11:02] <thegladiator> yepp. btw , I had program listing in the same mnu so got it worknig
[11:02] <thegladiator> thanks
[11:02] <farous> search what is the binary file name with this command if thunderbird is the packagename
[11:02] <YaST> ppl.. I got my keyboard lyaout right when I installed dapper
[11:02] <YaST> but after I did a system upgrade
[11:02] <thegladiator> progrock, why not install the codecs package
[11:02] <YaST> the keyboard layout got fucked
[11:02] <prada_> Seveas: does ubotu have a package search feature ?
[11:02] <YaST> :S
[11:02] <Seveas> prada_, !find
[11:02] <thegladiator> progrock, install all codecs , wincodecs i.e1
[11:02] <bimberi> slide23: start here - wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:02] <prada_> !find sdl
[11:02] <progrock> thegladiator, whats the package name?
[11:03] <slide23> bimberi, ty :)
[11:03] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell progrock about codecs
[11:03] <bimberi> slide23: yw :)
[11:03] <NoiZeR> irc.cl
[11:03] <YaST> it is right on the options when I go on 'System -> Preferences -> Keyboard'
[11:03] <progrock> !easysource
[11:03] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:03] <macdonal> ubuntus tele me about xconfig
[11:03] <DCCOLE>  SDL_net library needed
[11:03] <macdonal> ubuntus tell me about xconfig
[11:03] <DCCOLE> arghh this is a pain
[11:04] <thegladiator> progrock, try this also !restricted
[11:04] <thegladiator> !restricted
[11:04] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:04] <prada_> !fnd mplayer
[11:04] <ubotu> prada_: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:04] <wastrel> l8r thx for the info
[11:04] <adub> anyone get monitor mode working with orinoco gold classic
[11:04] <macdonal> ubotu tell me about xconfig
[11:04] <prada_> !find mplayer
[11:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mplayer' (11 shown): mozilla-mplayer ;; mplayer-386 ;; mplayer-586 ;; mplayer-686 ;; mplayer-custom ;; mplayer-doc ;; mplayer-fonts ;; mplayer-k6 ;; mplayer-k7 ;; mplayer-nogui ;; xmms-xmmplayer.
[11:04] <Drac[Server] > DCCOLE, install the SDL_net package. :P
[11:04] <progrock> lol, yeah the !easysource is broken.. well maybe jsu tnever implemented
[11:04] <DCCOLE> whats the package name???
[11:04] <thegladiator> prada, use mplayer...thats the best :)
[11:04] <foopub> My screen is using 640x480 resolution, but I want 1024x768, and I've left no other options in xorg.conf. Yet, in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution only gives 640x480 as an option. I'm on a Inspiron 1100 laptop. Anyone have any ideas?
[11:04] <Seveas> DCCOLE, USE THE SEARCH
[11:04] <cyphase> woohoo, wine finally installed :)
[11:04] <progrock> neither is !restricted tho, odd
[11:04] <farous> prada i think it would be better to msg ubot in private /msg ubotu
[11:04] <Drac[Server] > DCCOLE, sdl_net....
[11:05] <Kyo> So if I have my own mail server for my linux box, I can make an email like kyo@witheringtohome.com?
[11:05] <thegladiator> progrock, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:05] <tatters> Does anyone know of a package like phpgroupware that works with apache2?
[11:05] <macdonal> can someone tell me about configuring my xserver again for the screen resolution..?
[11:05] <Seveas> !xcfg
[11:05] <thegladiator> go to that page has all the info you have
[11:05] <ubotu> [xcfg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:05] <Seveas> ^-- macdonal
[11:05] <prada_> thegladiator: I've been using it for more than 6 years now ...
[11:05] <progrock> thegladiator, wouldnt automatrix install all of those?
[11:05] <thegladiator> mplayer nah ?
[11:05] <YaST> I can I cange My Keyboard layout on X and console and everything to United Kingdom keyboard layout ?
[11:05] <YaST> help me pls
[11:05] <Seveas> !tell progrock about automatix
[11:05] <prada_> thegladiator: yes
[11:05] <davro> currently running breezy, and im trying to use gtk-gnutella but its telling me that is running an old version, any ideas of howto upgrade using apt ?
[11:05] <thegladiator> progrock, never used that one...perhaps asks the lads
[11:05] <thegladiator> prada, from terminal or GUI ?
[11:05] <DCCOLE> nope no luck in search
[11:06] <Seveas> thegladiator, you shouln't use it
[11:06] <thegladiator> great I am a fan of mplayer also
[11:06] <prada_> thegladiator: both ...
[11:06] <Seveas> it's pure evil in its worst form 
[11:06] <YaST> I can I cange My Keyboard layout on X and console and everything to United Kingdom keyboard layout ? pls someone ?
[11:06] <Drac[Server] > DCCOLE, do you have all of the repositories enabled?
[11:06] <thegladiator> ah me prefers terminal
[11:06] <thegladiator> sorry guys :)
[11:06] <YaST> a
[11:06] <thegladiator> Seveas, Sorry I come from a non english speaking country :)
[11:07] <DCCOLE> i got it
[11:07] <Seveas> Davey, grab a deb from the gtk-gnutella site
[11:07] <farous> thegladiator: most of us here i think are that too including me
[11:07] <thegladiator> so excuse me
[11:07] <muep> ehh... I got xgl&compiz working but for some reason I don't have the transparency menu in titlebar menu :(
[11:07] <thegladiator> progrock, never used that one...perhaps asks the Gentlemen out here :)
[11:07] <YaST> muep, no one has
[11:07] <muep> wobbly windows and cube work great, though
[11:07] <muep> oh
[11:07] <YaST> cause there is no version of compiz
[11:07] <YaST> with that
[11:07] <YaST> ;)
[11:07] <thegladiator> hey ...what are you guys complaining about now ? :)
[11:07] <YaST> still
[11:07] <muep> I hope it'll come soon
[11:08] <YaST> there is a script
[11:08] <Seveas> xgl is pure gui
[11:08] <YaST> name opacity
[11:08] <Seveas> it's so cool 
[11:08] <YaST> that does the trick
[11:08] <YaST> Seveas, true
[11:08] <YaST> :D
[11:08] <YaST> and Im using it on a laptop
[11:08] <muep> transset doesn't work?
[11:08] <farous> Seveas: pitty the how to is only for dapper
[11:08] <Drac[Server] > Isn't there a !thing about punctuation?
[11:08] <YaST> with a Intel 915GM graphic card
[11:08] <jonoxer> Anyone seen a problem with Dapper in the last week where keyboard input starts auto-repeating on the period (.) character after an hour or two of uptime? It's like someone holds their finger on the . key, and it's happened to me on 3 different machines in the last week, nothing common between them except tracking latest Dapper
[11:08] <Seveas> !enter
[11:08] <YaST> ;)
[11:08] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:08] <Gyuszk> by all
[11:08] <Drac[Server] > Thanks, Seveas. :)
[11:09] <muep> farous: but dapper's coming soon
[11:09] <bimberi> Seveas: i have to ask :)  - how do you do the character (btw i cut/paste to get that one)?
[11:09] <farous> muep: would be great if it comes with dapper though i highly doubt it ;) perhaps in backports
[11:09] <muep> but it's already in universe
[11:09] <DCCOLE> okay after i get the package
[11:09] <DCCOLE> how do i make the File
[11:09] <muep> is it going to get removed?
[11:10] <thegladiator> * lad : an australian teen who thinks they are gods gift women and men alike
[11:10] <thegladiator> people in high schools who think there cool.
[11:10] <Drac[Server] > DCCOLE, the package does it. If you need it for compiling, you might try the -dev extension.
[11:10] <Seveas> bimberi, x-chat autoreplace
[11:10] <farous> muep: i do not have dapper so do not know completely ignorent in the dark. talking about xgl though
[11:10] <thegladiator> sorry for the offtopic remark
[11:10] <ANA^_^> l
[11:10] <bimberi> Seveas: ah, kk 
[11:11] <muep> I thought it would stay in universe for the eye candy suckers :)
[11:11] <bj_> hey guys is there a way to get mp3's to play in rythymbox? I installed gstreamer-mad but it still seems to not seem them. reboot?
[11:11] <luis_> first time using ubuntu, I want to install xampp, but it says I don't have suficient priviledges
[11:11] <luis_> help
[11:11] <ANA^_^> #barcelona
[11:11] <muep> luis_: use sudo
[11:11] <muep> sudo apt-get install xampp
[11:11] <luis_> whats sudo
[11:12] <prada_> bj_:  you might need to do a gst-register
[11:12] <rambo3> point him to synaptic or whats it called
[11:12] <muep> it runs a single command as root
[11:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell luis_ about sudo
[11:12] <Seveas> luis_, don't use xampp, use Ubuntu packages
[11:12] <meuserj|work> luis_: don't install xampp...  everything it installs is already available in Apt, and easier to install/upgrade that way
[11:12] <bj_> prada: is that a command?
[11:12] <ANA^_^> ll
[11:12] <steen> Hey there. I need to connect my laptop to my stationary. Laptop running ubuntu live. Connected via ieee1394. How do I make ip?
[11:12] <prada_> bj_: yup
[11:12] <luis_> ok
[11:12] <Seveas> luis_, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server-4.1
[11:12] <bj_> nice
[11:12] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to install Wine Tools. I thought it installed with WINE. Apparently it doesn't. What am I missing?
[11:13] <luis_> thanks guys, I will look on sudo
[11:13] <muep> luis: just put sudo in front of the commands that need root access
[11:13] <snoozix> luis_: you can just add a normal root password if you want.
[11:14] <snoozix> luis_: if you want it the normal unixish way.
[11:14] <muep> or you can use sudo su
[11:14] <snoozix> luis_: try "sudo passwd" if you want to, after this you can easily login directly as root or use su.
[11:14] <davro> does anyone know howto convert avi/mpg files to sony psp movies mpeg4, howto/tutorials ?
[11:14] <snoozix> muep: no.
[11:14] <luis_> ok
[11:14] <muep> no?
[11:14] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey i want to install gftp but i dont have internet access to download the appropriate packages... i enabled the universe thing but i think i need the packages...?
[11:15] <luis_> I am really new to linux, so I still need alot of more research on it.
[11:15] <steen> Fileshare via ieee1394. Can anyone help?
[11:15] <Syco54645> hi i have 2 drives that are not mounted at boot time, but i would like to make them mountable.  what do i need to put into my fstab (they are ext3 drives)
[11:15] <luis_> but I will try to follow all of your advice thanks
[11:15] <muep> snoozix: 'no.' was a reply to what?
[11:16] <rambo3> luis_ use add remove programs ; i forst of all use ubuntu wiki
[11:16] <luis_> how do u add a root password
[11:16] <rambo3> !wiki
[11:16] <Syco54645> luis_: sudo passwd root
[11:16] <snoozix> muep or you can use sudo su
[11:16] <bimberi> Syco54645: with a line in /etc/fstab like "/dev/hda4       /media/hda4     ext3    defaults        0       0"
[11:16] <luis_> thanks
[11:16] <muep> snoozix: I always have used sudo su
[11:16] <snoozix> muep: that's not correct.
[11:17] <muep> when I have needed to
[11:17] <Seveas> muep, sudo -i is better
[11:17] <snoozix> muep: than you would first have to set a password.
[11:17] <Seveas> snoozix, no
[11:17] <Syco54645> bimberi: what is the dump and the pass option?
[11:17] <Seveas> sudo su will work
[11:17] <snoozix> Seveas: ?
[11:17] <muep> snoozix: no need for password
[11:17] <rambo3> sudo -i
[11:17] <snoozix> Seveas: without setting a root password?
[11:17] <Seveas> because it makes you run su as root ;)
[11:17] <muep> root can use 'su' without password
[11:17] <andy_> can some help me on  installing nmap plz, sudo gives me a error
[11:17] <Seveas> andy_, error on the pastebin please
[11:17] <snoozix> ah allright
[11:17] <luis_> I am gona go and try sudo
[11:17] <snoozix> got the point
[11:17] <muep> and with sudo I am 'root'
[11:17] <snoozix> sorry :)
[11:17] <luis_> thanks
[11:17] <steen> Can anyone help me connecting two computers via firewire?
[11:18] <bimberi> Syco54645: geez, i'd have to look at "man dump" to answer that :)
[11:18] <andy_> You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:
[11:18] <andy_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:18] <andy_>   language-support-en: Depends: mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb but it is not going to be installed
[11:18] <andy_>   nmap: Depends: libpcre3 (>= 4.5) but it is not going to be installed
[11:18] <andy_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[11:18] <snoozix> i was just wrong :)
[11:18] <Syco54645> bimberi: works for me, this is the one thing that i could never do right in linux was get other drives to mount at runtime
[11:18] <Seveas> andy_, PASTEBIN
[11:19] <Seveas> NOT in here
[11:19] <bimberi> Syco54645: kk, that like is working fine for me
[11:19] <andy_> ?
[11:19] <Seveas> andy_, and it gives you a solution right there...
[11:19] <Syco54645> bimberi: ok that is fine by me then.  as long as they mount and unmount automatically i am happy
[11:19] <Syco54645> bimberi: thanks btw
[11:20] <steen> Does anyone no howto connect two computers?
[11:20] <andy_> i tryed -f aswell tho :-S
[11:20] <bimberi> Syco54645: np :)
[11:21] <sorush20> hi guys
[11:21] <rambo3> andy_ did you upgrade the ubuntu or just using some weard sources.lst
[11:21] <sorush20> I'm back
[11:21] <sorush20> using xchat this time..
[11:22] <Syco54645> bimberi: i just found that the pass option tells it which order fsck should check it in.  it says that 0 is ignored
[11:22] <andy_> i oredered the cd...
[11:22] <Drac[Server] > Where can I check for compatibility and support for this sound card and other such pieces of hardware?
[11:22] <rambo3> alsa.org?
[11:22] <andy_> su
[11:22] <Syco54645> bimberi: i have no clue what the heck that means because it is being very vague, so i guess if it is set to 0 then fsck will never check it?
[11:23] <rambo3> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ had to google it
[11:23] <bimberi> Syco54645: yes that's right, hence you might want a different value
[11:23] <bimberi> ubotu tell Drac[Server]  about hardware
[11:24] <Drac[Server] > Thanks, bimberi
[11:24] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : yw :)
[11:25] <Syco54645> bimberi: ah so that is how you make it fix stuff before it boots.  that is why my gentoo box never fixed the fs i suppose.  so if i set hde to 2 and sda to 3 then those would be checked before they are mounted, and if they were not unmounted upon shutdown, then they will be checked completely right?
[11:25] <Drac[Server] > It's not listed. :(
[11:25] <bimberi> Syco54645: getting too advanced for me now, but that's my limited understanding of it yes
[11:26] <Drac[Server] > According to rockhopper.dk, this card is supported by ALSA. However, it did not immediately work in one of my test machines...
[11:26] <muep> hey, transset can still be used to control transparency :))
[11:26] <Syco54645> bimberi: ah ok.  thanks
[11:26] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : which doesn't necessarily mean it won't work, just that someone who has one hasn't added to those pages
[11:26] <bimberi> Syco54645: yw :)
[11:26] <Drac[Server] > bimberi, understood.
[11:27] <sorush20> guys where can I add topics to be discussed in the adgenda in ubuntu meetings? my idea is to add p2p for repositories to reduce the load on bandwidth and also to find a way of leagally buying codec32 from companies thourgh canonical or ubuntu?
[11:27] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : yeah, i thought it was a bit of a useless thing to say :)
[11:27] <Artan1s> I downloaded Java, how do I install it
[11:27] <bimberi> !java
[11:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:27] <sorush20> Artan1s: follow the above link
[11:28] <bimberi> :P
[11:28] <sorush20> bimberi: no problem...
[11:29] <cdubya> what do most of you developers here use? I'm looking for an IDE that's a bit more simplistic I suppose than that of KDevelop......I've just used gedit and a shell, but I'd like to be able to step through the issues in an IDE as it tends to be a little simpler to follow in the long run, especially for stuff where I've got lots and lots of errors like I've got right now.
[11:29] <djst> can someone tell me how to force a fsck.ext3 at bootup?
[11:29] <djst> i'm having problems with my ext3 partition and i want to force a file check when the file system is not mounted
[11:30] <bimberi> !fsck
[11:30] <djst> running fsck.ext3 manually just warns about the partition being mounted
[11:30] <bimberi> !+fsck
[11:30] <ubotu> methinks fsck is Go to single-user mode. (sudo init 1). Then unmount all non-/ filesystems. Then 'mount -n -o remount,ro /' to mount it read-only. Then run fsck. Then 'mount -n -o remount,rw /'. Then remount non-/ filesystems, then 'init 2' to go back to multi-user mode.
[11:30] <Syco54645> djst: use fsck.ext3 -f
[11:30] <djst> but how do i specify so it does it on _next reboot_ ?
[11:31] <djst> i don't want to do it while it's mounted because it's not recommended
[11:31] <Syco54645> djst in the ftabs file
[11:31] <Syco54645> djst: or just umount /path_to_device
[11:31] <djst> Syco54645: can you please walk me through this? i'd be very grateful
[11:31] <djst> i can't umount, it says drive is busy
[11:31] <Syco54645> djst: sure i can pm you
[11:32] <thegladiator> ClayG, hi
[11:32] <Syco54645> djst: you have some pms
[11:32] <Syco54645> heh
[11:34] <Kyo> So if I have my own mail server for my linux box, I can make an email like kyo@witheringtohome.com?
[11:34] <Seveas> Kyo, if you control the dns of witheringtohome.com: yes
[11:34] <jonshea> Anyone know if there's a postScript viewer that will automatically update if I save over the file it's looking at?
[11:34] <nm> later
[11:34] <nm> thunderstorm
[11:35] <synth_> Have a quick question...anyone know of a resource for linux video drivers for an ATI 7000 series? According to ATI's site they don't produce anything before 8500...anybody know any place else?
[11:35] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:36] <djst> Syco54645: my pm's don't seem to get through
[11:36] <Rat> After installing ubuntu/kubuntu it keeps on coming with this colored screen when starting up XServer. Have any of you guys ran into this problem? This is after a clean installing of ubuntu/kubuntu amd 64 bit version
[11:36] <IdleOne> djst:  do /msg nickserv help
[11:36] <BockBilbo> ive just upgraded to dapper, and cant manage to run firestarter as a normal user using "sudo firestarter" (after allowing nonpasword access to the user for firestarter in /etc/sudoers)... i get this message:  (firestarter:12646): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:36] <BockBilbo> ani idea?
[11:37] <GarBhaD> hi
[11:37] <synth_> Rat...I ran into that problem with an old video card that was on an old Pentium Pro 200 board...I never found another way around it.
[11:37] <Guillaume> Hi
[11:37] <djst> IdleOne: then what?
[11:37] <IdleOne> then follow the instruction for registering you nick
[11:37] <Rat> oh great are you kidding me synth?!?!?!? This is a brand new video card, Geforce 68000GS
[11:38] <djst> Syco54645: can you read my messages in here at least?
[11:38] <BigDaddy> hey guys, can I rename the entries hda1 hdb1 etc?
[11:38] <Guillaume> Ive got a problem on boot it says that Synchronizing clock fails, can you help me with that ? (it is perhaps because today i disabled and anbled the UTC mode of clock)
[11:39] <synth_> Rat...Perhaps Nvida makes a linux driver for that card? =) The old pc I was using I ended up turning into a mail server and just use the terminal.
[11:39] <funkyHat> someone told me how to use ssh-add a while ago to set up passwordless auth...
[11:39] <BigDaddy> I want to rename them so that I can readily recognize them
[11:39] <Rat> Uhhh, how do i get  a linux driver and all, synth?
[11:39] <funkyHat> I can't remember how to do it though :(, can someone tell me?
[11:40] <beaz> anyone can help me with This generally means that your kernel was built with CONFIG_MODVERSIONS set, but the madwifi modules got compiled with different options. Rebuild your kernel with it disabled, hopefully that will fix it.
[11:40] <synth_> Rat...try google first...I'm sure someone somewhere has a linux Nvidia resource. Also try the manufature page.
[11:40] <synth_> err...manufacture.
[11:40] <Rat> well that is crap, that is what u get when u get a brand new pc, nothing supports it
[11:40] <sorush20> when and where is the next ubuntu conference and will there be a video made from it for the go-open TV? with music and lights and penguins etc..
[11:40] <Guillaume> synth_: aver seen a Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org failed ?
[11:40] <synth_> =) Me Spellest the bestest I've everest done.
[11:40] <Artan1s> How do I change directory to Desktop
[11:40] <Syco54645> here is a good one how can i run a chmod on 200 gigs of files that i want the files to be 644, but not change the directories, i want to do this in one command because i am lazy
[11:40] <synth_> Yup...I have seen that Guill. I'm still researching that.
[11:41] <IdleOne> Guillaume:  yes could be the server is down
[11:41] <Guillaume> synth_: I made a pink on it and ive got response
[11:41] <synth_> Oh...good call Idleone. =)
[11:41] <Guillaume> ping sorry
[11:41] <GarBhaD> Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org failed  <= this happened to me a lot
[11:41] <BigDaddy> artan1s - cd ~/Desktop
[11:41] <Artan1s> bigdaddy:thanks
[11:41] <BigDaddy> np
[11:42] <GarBhaD> I just renamed the script in /etc/init.d to avoid it :)
[11:42] <sorush20> Syco54645: do sudo chmod *.* me stop lazy
[11:42] <BigDaddy> let me guess, you are doing the diskmounter?
[11:42] <synth_> Does anybody know if that clock routine comes before it pulls a DHCP address?
[11:42] <Syco54645> sorush20: glad to see that we have elitist here now too...
[11:43] <GarBhaD> synth, I'm using static IPs and it still failed
[11:43] <synth_> hmm...don't know then...I'll keep looking.
[11:43] <GarBhaD> well sometimes worked, sometimes don't
[11:43] <djst> does anyone know how to force a filesystem check at bootup, before it's mounted?
[11:44] <IdleOne> I dont think that its a big deal that your clock isnt in sync with ubuntu servers but you can keep searching :)
[11:44] <synth_> ::nods::
[11:44] <GarBhaD> the big deal is about having to wait for the time out everytime to boot
[11:44] <IdleOne> its about 5 seconds
[11:45] <synth_> Actually my problem is just a video driver one. ATI doesn't support linux drivers for cardes before their Radeon 8500's. Anybody have a resource for people who do?
[11:45] <IdleOne> light a smoke while your waiting
[11:45] <GarBhaD> I remember it was more than 5 seconds
[11:45] <GarBhaD> pretty more than 5 sec
[11:45] <Hysty> GarBhaD, I did read some howto regarding that, let me see if I can find it
[11:45] <dooglus> GarBhaD: there have been problems with ubuntu servers in the last few hours.
[11:45] <IdleOne> ok GarBhaD  your officialy in charge of figuring out why the time server isnt syncing :P
[11:46] <Kensler> mm
[11:47] <GarBhaD> dooglus, it wasn't a few hours, I had those problems weeks ago
[11:48] <GarBhaD> well, it always work if I force a clock synchronisation from the desktop
[11:48] <GarBhaD> but at boot time, it failed a lot
[11:48] <eugman> ok is there any way to have two programs running locally through ssh?
[11:48] <Wibble-> hi... I've just upgraded my kernel because ubuntu said it was a new package, and it has broken my nvidia drivers, now I can't use X! because of that, I can't get to a web browser... how can I revive my nvidia setup? (and why was it broken for me?)
[11:48] <drape> what .deb provides chkfontpath?
[11:49] <Wibble-> eugman: you mean with "screen"?
[11:49] <drape> Wibble- lynx
[11:49] <eugman> I mean I do ssh -X etc. Then I tiype firefox and it opens up. The terminal waits for firfox to xlose before processing any other commands
[11:50] <Wibble-> do firefox& then
[11:50] <Wibble-> the & puts it into the background.  Or do ctrl+z after its running (which suspends the current task) then "bg" puts the current suspended task in the background
[11:50] <eugman> thanks
[11:50] <drape> eugman: or ctrl+z ... bah
[11:51] <hangfire> will ATI drivers work with ubuntu?
[11:51] <drape> hrm, any ideas on chkfontpath?
[11:52] <bside> broken commands
[11:52] <Wibble-> no.. but isn't there a dpkg-tool which lets you search for that?
[11:52] <RememberPOL> Hi I would just like to know what the default Ubuntu filesystem is?
[11:53] <drape> nothing shows up in apt-cache search
[11:53] <bside> is fsck3
[11:53] <GarBhaD> the default is ext3, isn't it?
[11:53] <bside> is this a trivia ?
[11:53] <RememberPOL> yeah I think it's ext3
[11:53] <Hysty> GarBhaD, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Synchronizing_clock_to_ntp.ubuntulinux.org..._.28taking_too_long_to_load.29
[11:53] <drape> yep
[11:53] <GarBhaD> thanks Hysty
[11:53] <RememberPOL> just wondering because I use Slackware on my desktop which uses reiserfs as default not ext3
[11:54] <basic> anyone running dapper+xgl on the fglrx drivers?
[11:54] <Wibble-> I don't have it either drape - sorry
[11:54] <bimberi> RememberPOL: ext3 by default, can choose others during install
[11:54] <AntMaz> hey anyone think haf life will work under wine , or do i definetly have to get cedaga
[11:54] <bside> any1 who kows scanning ?
[11:54] <bside> knows
[11:54] <DCCOLE> how do i install the package for overkill
[11:54] <hangfire> doesnt HL have a linux version?
[11:55] <basic> no
[11:55] <bimberi> DCCOLE: it's in the universe repository ...
[11:55] <bimberi> ubotu tell dccole about universe
[11:55] <basic> it would be relatively easy for valve to make one though since its q1/q2 engine based
[11:55] <DCCOLE> yeah i know but what do i type to get it to run
[11:56] <DCCOLE> libgnomeui-2.0
[11:56] <DCCOLE>  anjuta say cant find
[11:56] <AntMaz> dcc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:56] <bimberi> anjuta?
[11:57] <AntMaz> anyone thinkkhl will work under wine or negative
[11:57] <hangfire> anyone know if there are ATI graphic drivers to run on ubuntu?
[11:57] <oklinux> how do I install real player ?
[11:58] <AntMaz> ok linux click on applications then add applications it will be under sound and video
[11:58] <hangfire> did you look for real player in the repositorys (not sure its there)
[11:58] <korhalf> whats the most recent ubuntu kernel version?
[11:58] <bimberi> DCCOLE: if you're installed it, open a terminal and type 'overkill'
[11:58] <korhalf> i just updated it and i dont think anything ahppened..even though it told me to restart and all that
[11:59] <AntMaz> hmm should i click setup to see if it woks under wine
[11:59] <korhalf> !tell me about wine repository
[12:00] <korhalf> !tell me about wine