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NabZi did. didnt run tho :(12:03
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ubijtsa2why not use ktorrent ?12:03
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NabZherd bittornado is good12:03
ubijtsa2bittornado is ok, so's ktorrent12:04
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Psi-Jackktorrent has it's issues, mainly because it doesn't properly follow torrent protocol right.12:04
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NabZhmm so what can i do about bitornado?12:04
NabZiv installed it over adept12:04
ubijtsa2NabZ: let me install it12:05
jindiazdo i press save now and its done?????12:05
NabZand with konsol12:05
NabZkk. :) ty12:05
jindiazrobotgeek??12:05
robotgeekjindiaz: i guess so12:05
jindiazlol12:05
jindiazaight lets see12:05
jindiazhaha12:05
jindiazuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo.....12:06
jindiazthat soooooooooooooooooooooooooo didint work12:07
jindiazlol12:07
jindiazit is there, in internet, but the icon is wrong, and it wont even open12:07
jindiazhahahaha12:07
ubijtsa2NabZ: try "btdownloadgui"12:07
NabZwhere about?12:07
jindiazCRAP12:07
ubijtsa2either with alt+F2 or in a konsole12:07
NabZdont work   in   alt+f212:08
NabZnor konsole12:08
NabZbash: btdownloadgui: command not found12:08
johnfluxNabZ: did you install it :P12:08
jindiazany suggestions12:08
jindiaz?12:08
ubijtsa2strange, works here12:08
robotgeekjindiaz: moment please12:08
NabZyeh i did.12:08
NabZadept12:09
NabZsays its installed aswell12:09
ubijtsa2which btdownloadgui --> /usr/bin/btdownloadgui12:09
robotgeekjindiaz: dc++ is available in the repos12:09
ubijtsa2NabZ: maybe I should ask, which release are you on ? :)12:09
NabZof kubuntu?12:10
ubijtsa2yeah12:10
NabZlatest. downloaded it a few hours ago. lol12:10
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jindiazWHUT!?  no way!!!  argh....  i tried finding it there!!  ok let me try this silly adept again12:10
robotgeekjindiaz: sudo apt-get install dcgui12:10
robotgeek!info dcgui12:10
ubotudcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB12:10
ubijtsa2latest as in "still smoking" ? :)12:10
robotgeekubotu: tell jindiaz about repos12:10
robotgeekjindiaz: take a look at that link which ubotu sent you12:11
NabZ?12:11
robotgeekjindiaz: u need to add universe repository12:12
jindiazyahhhhhhhhhhh see thats the thing, ive tried that and it DOESNT WORK12:12
ubijtsa2NabZ: in a konsole, if you type "dpkg -L bittornado-gui", it should tell you where it installed itself12:12
jindiazyah that command didnt work ewither12:12
NabZkk12:12
NabZnot installed12:12
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jindiazok hold up, im going to try... again...12:13
ubijtsa2okay, that explains the "bash: btdownloadgui: command not found"12:13
NabZlol, yeh12:13
ubijtsa2did the apt-get install give you any errors ?12:13
NabZnope12:14
jindiazok..... now adept doesnt open anymore12:14
jindiazhahahahahaha12:14
jindiazman...12:14
jindiazlol12:14
jindiazok im gunna restart12:14
luisito!dekorator12:14
ubotuluisito: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:14
ubijtsa2did it explicitly tell you that it installed the package @NabZ12:14
NabZooo12:14
NabZyou mean12:14
NabZsudo apt-get bittornado-gui12:14
NabZE: Invalid operation bittornado-gui12:15
NabZthats the error i got with t12:15
NabZit*12:15
ubijtsa2NabZ: you need to do "sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui"12:15
ubijtsa2the "install" keyword is important12:15
NabZPackage bittornado-gui is not available12:15
ubijtsa2right, now we are getting somewhere :)12:16
NabZ but is referred to by another package.12:16
NabZThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:16
NabZis only available from another source12:16
NabZE: Package bittornado-gui has no installation candidate12:16
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robotgeek!info bitornado-gui12:16
ubijtsa2robotgeek: you are missing a 't'12:16
robotgeekyup12:16
kkathman2 ts12:16
robotgeekNabZ: you need to enable the universe repository12:17
NabZ !info bittornado-gui12:17
ubotubittornado-gui: (bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 232 kB12:17
NabZhow do i do that?12:17
robotgeekubotu: tell NabZ about repos12:17
ubijtsa2NabZ: I can tell you how I would do it :)12:17
robotgeekNabZ: check PM from ubotu12:17
NabZty12:17
ubijtsa2saying that, I'd hack sources.list by hand, I always do :)12:18
NabZbahh thats   gnome lol12:18
robotgeekNabZ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto12:18
kkathmanlink link link12:18
kkathmanhehe12:18
NabZty12:19
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NabZah crap; this looks like a pain in the ass lol12:19
ubijtsa2NabZ: vim is a walk in the park :)12:19
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ubijtsa2kkathman: no, you don't want that, trust me...12:20
bluezygreetings12:20
kkathmanwell its what gets done anyway :)12:20
kkathmanit could go to PM of course12:20
kkathmanhehe12:20
ubijtsa2it would drive me up the wall..12:20
kkathmanlol12:20
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kkathmani was being quite a bit tongue in cheek12:21
ubijtsa2if it could be disabled for users that didn't want it, sure..12:21
NabZis there not a easier way to do this?12:21
ubijtsa2NabZ: synaptic has a easy-to-use way to do it, but is gnome app12:21
NabZmm12:21
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ubijtsa2NabZ: using vim isn't as bad as it sounds12:22
NabZvim? im using konsole atm12:22
NabZlol12:22
robotgeekNabZ: use nano, instead of vim12:22
ubijtsa2vim is an editor, you either like it or you don't, and usually only way to find out is to try it :)12:23
robotgeekNabZ: or even kate, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:23
NabZah yeh, im using nano atm lol12:23
bluezyI love vi12:23
vgenano powns12:23
bluezybut you can use emacs as well12:23
robotgeekubijtsa2: i use vim all the time, it's not recommended for people who are new to it12:23
ubijtsa2the lines for universe should be in there, just have to take the '#' off the start of the lines12:23
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jindiazARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH12:24
bluezyrobotgeek, if you have used edlin, you know how vim works12:24
ubijtsa2robotgeek: I'm as happy in vim as I am in Emacs :)12:24
jindiazhey robot, still no luck12:24
bluezyoops, I am showing my age here12:24
robotgeekbluezy: i definetly know how vim works, heh12:24
ompaul:wq!12:24
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ubijtsa2bluezy: sed & awk :)12:24
ubijtsa2ompaul: :x  :)12:25
robotgeekubijtsa2: i know emacs enough to get out of it12:25
ubijtsa2or :x! if you want more oomph :)12:25
ubijtsa2robotgeek: emacs is nice :)12:25
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Hobbsee!start an editor war12:25
ubotuHobbsee: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:25
Hobbseebah...12:25
kkathmanlol12:25
robotgeekubijtsa2: i know, i just got used to vim12:25
ompaulHobbsee, wars are banned12:26
kkathmanfeel better Hobbsee ?12:26
ubijtsa2bluezy: :x == :wq12:26
Hobbseekkathman: yeah, much :)12:26
zblachhi. i got my keyboard stuck in utf8. how can I change it back?12:26
kkathmangood12:26
slow-motionn812:26
ubijtsa2robotgeek: tends to be the first one you try that you like best of them two12:26
bluezyoh I am so used to typing :wq that I don't use it...12:26
NabZok i think i done it12:27
robotgeekubijtsa2: i actually learnt emacs first, but quit in the intial stages due to keybindings on the mac12:27
NabZits getting packeges now12:27
ubijtsa2NabZ: good stuff, it should work fine from now12:27
NabZty :)12:27
zblachit's fairly irritating as some programs don't like utf812:27
zblachlike scite12:27
bluezyoh well, I am off again I need to figure out this problem on vms12:27
NabZsudo apt-get install bttornado-gui12:27
NabZthat correct?12:28
ubijtsa2da12:28
bluezysee ya12:28
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ubijtsa2that the baby12:28
robotgeekubijtsa2: tell Hobbsee about vim12:28
ubijtsa2*lol*12:28
robotgeekubotu: tell Hobbsee about vim12:28
Hobbseehaha12:28
NabZ:D its installing bit tornado12:28
Hystycoffee time12:28
NabZthanx guyz12:29
ubijtsa2Hobbsee: vim with the vimacs extension is nice.. you should see the dev's that try and use that on my box :)12:29
robotgeekubijtsa2: i havent tried it yet, maybe i should give it a whirl12:29
ubijtsa2not to mention that I am the only one using Dvorak there as well12:29
robotgeekubijtsa2: heh12:29
ubijtsa2robotgeek: vim is useful, but only really on the console and when the files are small to medium.12:30
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robotgeekubijtsa2: i work mostly with vim and screen, that's my ide :)12:30
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Hobbseeah ok12:31
ubijtsa2once files get *large*, you really want to go X and Kate or Emacs12:31
Hobbseehehe yeah12:31
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Hobbseelike xorg.conf12:31
NabZhey guys, is there a  basic text editor like notepad?12:31
ubijtsa2xorg.conf is small, easy to hack from the console :)12:31
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NabZto code php, ant stuff12:31
NabZand*12:31
ubijtsa2NabZ: for KDE?12:31
NabZyeh12:31
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ubijtsa2try Kate12:31
NabZi gotta install it?12:32
robotgeekNabZ: nope12:32
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ubijtsa2there is also Kedit12:32
NabZahh12:32
ubijtsa2Kate is better though12:32
NabZi see it12:32
NabZty :D12:32
jindiazhey ummm robotgeek, any advice?12:33
ubijtsa2I like the way Kate can save sessions and remember the files you were editing12:33
robotgeekjindiaz: on?12:33
ubijtsa2reeet, bedtime12:33
jindiazlol, the adept issue, installing dc pp12:33
robotgeekjindiaz: did you "sudo apt-get update"12:33
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jindiazummm noooo...  i tried that dc pp command, and it syas its unavilable12:34
jindiazok, ill try that ione as well12:34
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots12:34
ryanakcaany idea on how I could fix this...12:34
jindiazhmmmm it seems the automatix poroblem is styll messed as well, this is whut i get, afte the update as well, when running that dc code12:36
jindiazautomatix: Depends: zenity but it is not going to be installed12:37
jindiazand12:37
jindiazdcgui: Depends: dctc (>= 0.85.8) but it is not going to be installed12:37
jindiazcrap i thought the automatix thing didnt work....12:38
jindiazarggggggggggggh12:38
jindiazlol12:38
ryanakcais it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?12:40
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jindiazomg... got th dc thing, still not woreking12:44
supertijanoHas anybody tried AVG for Linux?12:45
robotgeeksupertijano: why do you need an anitvirus?12:46
supertijanoWhy not?12:46
kkathmansupertijano:  pssst...no known viruses for linux :)12:46
supertijanoI heard there was three12:47
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jindiazargh.... anyone?? i just want to install dc....12:47
kkathmanohh well, by all means  please continue then :)12:47
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supertijanoI'm trying but it wont open. :P12:47
jindiazehy can i ask yu guys, are installers licenced?12:48
kkathmanim not sure anyone can help you..cuz none of us run an AV12:48
robotgeekjindiaz: what won't run?12:48
supertijanoYeah I figured. I'm like hacker paranoid though.12:48
jindiazlike you know, double click, and apps install sorta deal12:49
jindiazo, dc plus plus12:49
NabZanyone know if its  possible to install metasploit framework   -   http://www.metasploit.com/projects/Framework/downloads.html12:49
jindiazstill same problem, just wont work...12:49
jindiaztried the coee yu gave me12:49
jindiazgot the thing that made it not work installed12:49
jindiazthen still wont work12:49
robotgeekjindiaz: wont work isn't terribly useful to debug12:49
jindiazhhahaha12:50
jindiazhmmm ok,12:50
jindiazman i dont knoe whut to tell yu12:50
HobbseeNabZ: is there a source package on that site, or a deb?12:50
NabZsource i think12:50
jindiazi out in the code yu gave me12:50
jindiazthen it said i needed  dcgui: Depends: dctc (>= 0.85.8) but it is not going to be installed12:51
jindiazthen i got that12:51
jindiazand then tried the code again12:51
jindiazand still wont work12:51
jindiazthe code yu gave me was....12:51
jindiazsudo apt-get install dcgui12:52
jindiaznot code, but command i mean12:52
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots12:52
ryanakcais it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?12:52
robotgeekjindiaz: did you install some other stuff from somewhere else?12:53
jindiazyah, i tried that ummmm super pak i was talking to you abt earlier...12:55
jindiazautmatix12:55
robotgeekjindiaz: did we not tell you not to install automatix?12:55
jindiazyah i knoe12:55
jindiazi thought it didnt work12:55
jindiazbecause it qwaas missing the dependancy12:55
jindiazbecasue "zenity" wasent installed12:56
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ryanakcaanybody?12:56
robotgeekjindiaz: i don't know what the issue with your computer is12:56
robotgeekjindiaz: cause it has probably messed with your sources.list, which is exactly why i told you not to run it in the first place12:57
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jindiazhahahaha DAMN!  ummm ok i ran the uninstall command, but it says, Package automatix is not installed, so not removed12:59
bzbbif I don't use NTP, my clock drifts horribly, and if I turn it on, it locks my local timezone to UTC01:00
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Hystybzbb, you need to adjust your time offset01:00
jindiazreally no idea huh?01:00
bzbbHysty: where do I do that?01:00
Hobbseebzbb: cat /etc/timezone01:00
Hobbseedoes it show the correct one?01:01
jindiazso can anyone field the question i posed earlier?  are installers licenced or cost anything to use?01:01
robotgeekjindiaz: your best bet is to sudo aptitude install zenity01:01
bzbbyah01:01
bzbbamerica/new_york01:01
Hobbseejindiaz: which installers01:01
Hystyhmm01:01
robotgeekjindiaz: then restore your sources.list from the backup one in /etc/apt/sources.list , and then "sudo apt-get remove automatix"01:02
bzbband the KDE control module says UTC01:02
jindiazany.  that install packages, much like how they do in windows.  you knoe download, and double clikc, installer comes up and once its done whatever it is is installed01:02
bzbband the drop down box does nothing01:02
Hobbsee!tell jindiaz about apt-get01:02
Hobbseesee your private message01:02
Hystybzbb, in System Settings?01:02
bzbbyeah01:02
jindiazyah i see that01:02
Hystybzbb, what happens if you change that?01:02
jindiazi know about that01:02
Hobbseebzbb: what are you running?  breezy?01:03
jindiazbut it is not error proof01:03
jindiazshit always happens01:03
bzbbyes, breezy01:03
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jindiazso im just wondering01:03
Hobbseejindiaz: then you should know that you use apt-get to install from the repositories, not from random sources on the web01:03
Hobbseejindiaz: language01:03
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humboldtwhy is kded using all my cpu resources?01:03
humboldtseems to stop when I stop "kat"01:03
bzbbit now says EST, but the clock is still wrong01:03
Hystyjindiaz, hence why automatix is unliked01:03
bzbbon the taskbar, but not in the control panel01:03
jindiazyah i knowwwwwwwwwww that, but somethings should be in installers, FLAWLESS, jsut WORKS, installers01:04
jindiazthe basics primarily01:04
robotgeekjindiaz: it works very well, better than "installers"01:04
jindiazno way, nooooooooo way01:04
NabZhow do you change the  Bootsplash?01:04
_johnHey guys any suggestions for opening an rtf doc in kubuntu office program? I get an error message Could not mount device.01:04
jindiazdc plus plus would be installed if it was flawless01:04
Hystybzbb, do you have 'Set Data and Time Automatically' selected?01:04
HystyDate rather01:04
jindiazi would have all my codecs, everything i need, if it was flwaless01:05
bzbbits off now01:05
bzbbturning it on caused this problem01:05
jindiazargh, sorry just fruistrated01:05
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NabZanyone know how to change the boot screen? i found some cool ones on KDE-Look.org01:06
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HobbseeNabZ: there's a "how to install" link right where you found them01:07
NabZo, lol01:07
Hobbseeit's to the right of the download link01:07
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Hobbseeusually, at least :P01:07
NabZty :)01:07
Hobbseeno problems :)01:07
NabZahh cant see it01:07
NabZlol01:07
NabZis  it even possible on kubuntu?01:07
NabZbecause its not on fedora01:08
Hobbsee!tell jindiaz about easyubuntu01:08
Hystybzbb, if turning on the autotime is causing an incorrect time difference then the offset must be wrong01:08
robotgeek_workHobbsee: no, not yet. will take too much work01:08
Hobbseei think it is, but i've not tried it01:08
NabZhmm, lol, wonder how its done01:08
bzbbif I cat it, its correct01:08
Hobbseerobotgeek_work: to which?  oh, the easy ubuntu?01:08
bzbband when I launch the control panel, it changes the offset listed in the control panel, but not in /etc/timezone01:09
bzbbI'm just going to leave it off, and use the commandline01:09
ryanakcaanybody???01:09
Hobbseeryanakca: what's your question?  i missed it01:10
robotgeek_workbzbb: dual boot?01:10
bzbbnope01:10
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots01:10
ryanakcais it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?01:10
robotgeek_workHobbsee: pm :)01:10
bzbbrobotgeek_work: I just noticed today that my clock had drifted 10 minutes fast, and turned on autoset01:11
bzbband everything went to hell01:11
robotgeek_workhmm, no clue bzbb . sorry01:11
NabZhttp://www.bootsplash.org/   <---  would that work with kubuntu?01:11
Hobbseeryanakca: dont konw sorry01:11
Hystybzbb, did it drift a certain amount after turning on autoset?01:11
ryanakcahobbsee: thanks anywais :)01:12
bzbbit went to the proper time, +5 hours01:12
bzbband I live in UTC -501:12
NabZhey does kunbuntu meet these requirments? http://www.bootsplash.org/kernel.html01:12
Hystywhich time server are you using?01:12
robotgeek_workryanakca: maybe ask in #ubuntu ?01:12
bzbbnorth-america.pool.ntp.org01:13
ryanakcarobotgeek_work: I thought ubuntu was gnome, kubuntu kde... anywais, I'll try :)01:13
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robotgeek_workryanakca: seems like a generic problem, be sure to mention the word generic :)01:13
Hystyand that time server is set to UTC?01:14
bzbbI have no clue01:14
Hystycause it looks like to me if you set your offset as +0 in KDE it would be right01:14
_luispart01:15
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bzbbdate says  Fri Feb 17 00:15:12 UTC 200601:15
NabZhey guys. what does this error mean?01:15
bzbbwhich agrees with kde01:15
NabZnabz@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install libbogl-dev01:15
NabZE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)01:15
NabZE: Unable to lock the list directory01:15
naliothNabZ: please don't paste in here01:15
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NabZsorry01:15
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naliothNabZ: it means to use sudo01:16
NabZkk01:16
NabZty :)01:16
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bzbband fixed01:18
bzbbI used the gnome time-admin01:18
HobbseeNabZ: type uname -r - then look at the requirements again01:18
bzbband it fixed everything right up01:18
NabZyeh sudo worked :)01:19
NabZcan someone gimmi a hand with this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto01:19
NabZim not sure on step 2. where should my image be located?01:19
Hystybzbb, i think the kde panel thing has some bugs, it just rooted up mine01:20
bzbbyeah, that would be the logical conclusion to draw here01:20
andreas_3hmm01:20
NabZwhats KDM ?01:20
andreas_3fish:/ seems broken in this update in dapper01:20
HystyK Desktop Manager01:21
andreas_3try to copy file to a server and konqueror locks01:21
NabZahh ty :)01:21
HystyNabZ, its what handles the login stuff01:21
HystyNabZ, gdm for gnome01:21
HobbseeNabZ: wherever you saved it01:21
Nirvana!amarok1.4beta101:22
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nirvana01:22
NabZkk ty01:22
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andreas_3hm01:24
Hystybzbb, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TimePrecision-HOWTO/set.html01:24
andreas_3now I tried starting a ftp:/ from the desktop, I ended up killing the desktop01:24
andreas_3I'm gonna try an dist-upgrade and a reboot01:24
bzbbwell, I'm off01:25
ryanakcano avail with my login manager question in #ubuntu01:25
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Ahmuckhi.  what kind of package management is available with kubunutu ?01:27
admrlahmuck Debian01:28
Ahmuckdpkg ... apt ?01:28
admrlyep01:28
Ahmuckdoes kubuntu have a gui for package management ?01:28
admrlyes01:28
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Ahmuckk, thx01:29
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Hobbseerofl - Ahmuck, adept01:29
Ahmuck??01:30
admrlsynaptic is better tho01:30
admrladept is the name of the program01:30
Hobbseei was laughing at admrl's response, just "yes" not what it actually was01:30
jindiazAUTOMATIX RULESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS01:30
jindiazomg... so happy... FINALLY01:31
jindiazthings WORK01:31
jindiaz:):):)):):):):):):):):)):):)01:31
admrlHobbsee i didnt remember what it was i dont use it01:31
admrli use synaptic01:31
Hobbseeah ok01:31
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admrlya well we are takling about gui01:32
Hobbseetrue01:32
admrli use the command line more than the gui but he was asking about gui01:32
Hobbseetrue01:32
admrlyep :)01:32
treyh0it's cool how kde is stable on kubuntu breezy (with the 3.5.1 packages) and it's broken to hell on debian sid with kde 3.5.101:32
Hobbseehehe!01:33
Hobbseei wonder why thoguh!01:33
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admrlanyone having problems with kompose01:33
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andreas_a reboot was all it needed :)01:39
Cyberwal83god I love automatix :p01:39
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damnhil Does anyone succeed in recording a movie using xawtv or motv?01:42
dumezili just installed kubuntu and my mouse if moving too fast.  ive gone to the mouse control panel and reduced the acceleration to 1.0x, but it still seems too fast.  ive got a laptop with a touch pad.  any ideas?01:44
NabZhow can u add more  styles?01:45
_bim trying to install opera but it cant be found ive added the universe multiverse thing and it worked for finding vlc. any ideas ?01:46
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HymnToLife_b > have you run apt-get update ?01:47
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Hystydumezil, have you adjusted pointer threshold?01:47
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_byes ive run update01:48
HymnToLifeoh yeah01:48
HymnToLifeOpera is in the PFL repo01:48
HymnToLifewait, I'll find you a link01:48
_bthx whats pfl ?01:48
dumezilHysty: i just tried and it didn't do anything01:48
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HymnToLifePenguins Liberation Front :p01:49
HymnToLifepfl* in fact :p01:49
HymnToLifeplf*01:49
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_blol :P01:49
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vge_b:  download the deb file from the opera webpage?01:49
HymnToLifeb_ > here you go01:50
HymnToLifehttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/opera/01:50
_bthx im on it01:50
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vgedarn i love kuake 0.4 <301:52
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ParkotronIs anywhere here still using KDE 3.4.* and if so, could I ask you a quick favour?01:52
Hystydumezil, might have to search the forums for touchpad specifics01:53
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Hystyhmmm totem is not playing my avi's01:55
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AshexI've installed Kubuntu to my external01:56
Ashexbut when I boot up01:56
Ashexi don't have a gui01:56
Parkotron!enter01:56
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!01:56
AshexBah, okay01:56
Nomad411Hi all.. Anyone familiar with patch?  Can I reverse a patch I applied by doing it in reverse?  patch -p0 > file.patch?01:56
AshexI've installed kubuntu to my external using a guide off ubuntu forums, However when booting up I don't have a gui interface to use.01:57
Parkotronashex: You didn't HAVE to go all out and use capital letters and punctuation. Just avoid using up multiple lines to say one thing.01:58
ParkotronCan you log in on the console?01:58
AshexYeah01:58
ParkotronWhat happens if you type "startx"?01:59
AshexI'll try that02:01
AshexI gotta reboot to try it02:01
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ParkotronIt'll probably tell you why X fails to start. If it doesn't go looking through the log file it mentions.02:03
ParkotronOh, and are you trying to boot it on the same computer you installed it on?02:03
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_johnCan anyone tell me how to access a rtf file from a dos formated floppy into kubuntu office?02:06
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AshexParkotron: Yeah, this is the same computer. I just installed it to my external usb02:08
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ParkotronI was thinking that if you switched to a computer with a different videocard, X would probably throw a fit.02:08
Ashexnope02:09
Ashexit's just an ati card in my laptop02:09
AshexI had this issue before when attempting an ubuntu install02:09
ParkotronHave you ever installed Linux on the laptop itself?02:09
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_bopera is now up n running thx for the help02:10
Hostilehey guys, I have an ATi x700 Pro, and it is way over kill for using 2d in linux, I was wondering if it would be possible for me to underclock it to save power?02:10
AshexYeah, I installed Ubuntu 5.1 to my laptop, had the same problem. that time I just got angry and deleted the partition.02:10
AshexThen I spent a week dealing with Grub, it went ballistic because it couldn't find Ubuntu02:11
_bsome gfx have high idle power consumtion02:11
_bu cant get away from that even if u underklock i think02:12
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_andyheya can some1 tell me how to install nemesis ?02:13
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Hostile_b: so you're saying I can't do it?02:14
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Hobbsee!info nemesis02:14
ubotunemesis: (TCP/IP Packet Injection Suite), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.32+1.4beta3-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 200 kB02:14
Hobbsee_andy: via apt-get?02:15
_bif u not gaming the card dosent consume as much power02:15
_bit has some power saving built in02:15
_andyyeah02:15
_andyapt-get02:15
_bunderklocking only lower they peak power consumtion not the idle i guess02:15
Hostileohh ok02:15
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_bu can check out xbit labs02:16
_bto se how much u card drinks02:16
_andynabz02:16
_andy:|02:16
nabzhey lol02:16
_andyu following me :@02:17
nabztrying to get metasploit to work lol02:17
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_andyu installed it ?02:17
nabzdownloaded n extracted it lol02:17
_andyoo02:17
nabzwhat now.. i dunno lol02:17
_andynore me hahaha02:17
supertijanoHave you guys ever played XBill?02:19
nabznope02:19
_andywut is it02:19
supertijanoAn awesome game02:19
_andyooo02:19
Hostile_b: xbit labs?02:19
_andyna02:20
Hostilexbitlabs.com?02:20
supertijanoI just started playing it, and can't stop. www.xbill.org02:20
_byes some hardware site they usaly mesure power consumption02:20
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_bor just google x700pro consumption02:20
nabzanyone know how to install metasploit framework? http://metasploit.com02:20
_bpower consumption that is02:21
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots02:25
ryanakcais it something wrong with the login manager itself or the config files or what?02:25
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__mikemHello02:25
_andy can1 tell me how to install metaspolit framework ?02:27
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robotgeekryanakca: still same problems? :(02:28
_andy?02:29
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Hobbsee_andy: find the source for it, and build it, it doesnt look to be in the repos02:30
nabzbuild it?02:30
_andyive download it...02:30
mnoirandy: their site has a nice user manual.  In English.  Explains how to install.  Just a theory - might be worth reading it...02:31
_andyi no, understand englih to good tho02:32
mnoiryou could try the spanish one then...02:32
nabzlmao02:32
__mikemhttp://www.google.com/language_tools02:32
__mikemor you could try that02:33
ryanakcarobotgeek: yes02:33
_andyim english...just cant red spel good02:33
robotgeekryanakca: sorry mate, i dunno much about X stuff to help02:33
__mikemHow old are you?02:33
_andy1702:33
__mikemThen if you are english, how come you can't understand english well02:34
_andyif tha wut i think, i neva went skool02:34
ryanakcarobotgeek: dont worry...02:34
__mikemI don't think I want to know any jmore02:35
ryanakcaI'm just hoping to Xorg expert might have walked in since I last asked02:35
nabzlol!!02:35
_andylmfao only messing with ya, i just cant be bothered to read there instructions02:36
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Hobbseeif you cant be bothered to read the instructions, i dont think many people will bother to help you02:36
_andylol u seen how big the manual is tho02:37
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__mikemandy, why havn't you gone to school?02:37
supertijanoHahaha mikem02:37
nabzhe was joking02:37
nabzlol02:37
nabzoo02:38
nabzi get it now02:38
nabzlmao02:38
nabzsoz lil slow02:38
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Hobbseedidnt look02:38
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supertijanoAndy was kidding that he didn't go to school mikem02:39
_andy:| soz lol02:39
__mikemI will just drop it right now02:39
nabzthen create symbolic links from the msf* applications to a directory in the system path (/usr/local/bin)02:39
nabzwhat does that mean?02:39
__mikemIronicly, I am doing my spanish homework as I do this02:39
supertijanoHahahahaha02:39
supertijanoMaybe Andy will help you. ;)02:40
_andylmao maybe ill just go run off hahaha02:40
__mikemlol02:40
supertijanoMaybe..02:40
nabzlol02:40
__mikemI can't wait till the new ubuntu based Mepis comes out02:40
supertijanoI've not heard of that yet02:41
__mikemI used to use Mepis before I discovered Ubuntu02:41
__mikem!Mepis02:42
ubotu__mikem: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:42
supertijanoI don't know much about mepis.02:42
mnoirI used mepis too.  the project got messy02:42
_andywhats a symoblic link :-S02:42
__mikemThere are only 17 guys total working on it, only one of which is actually a developer according to an artical I read02:43
supertijanoJeez.02:43
mnoirandy when a second name points to the same physical file02:43
_andyoh i c02:43
_andyty02:43
__mikemI am currently using GNOME based ubuntu, to many issues with the way kubuntu-desktop is configured out of the box, and I have the kubuntu packages concurrently installed incase I feel like a change of pase02:45
__mikemIt has everything I could ask for02:45
_andykde looks better id say :02:45
__mikemdon't really see why I need to be looking at mepis again other than out of morbid curiousity02:45
__mikemI like kde better also02:45
_andy:)02:45
__mikemBut I don't like the configuration that kubuntu uses for kde02:46
_andyu guys no any good theme sites apart from kde-look ?02:46
__mikemnope, just that one02:46
__mikemjust google kde02:46
_andykk02:46
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ryanakca__andy: I know of a very good site to make kde look like Mac02:47
_andyu got a link m8 ?02:47
_andysounds kool :)02:48
Hobbseekde-look.org search for baghera or mac, i think02:48
Hobbsee*baghira02:48
ryanakcajust a second02:48
_andykk ty02:48
ryanakcathis is a whole howto02:48
__mikemI don't get what the big deal with xfce is, if I want a light wate gui, I have gnome02:48
_andyooo02:48
ryanakcahttp://linuxgangster.org/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=1502:48
__mikemI thought that was what gnome was for anyway02:48
_andythanks02:49
kkathmanHobbsee:  there is a baghira already compiled in the repos02:49
ryanakcayes02:49
__mikem!xfce02:49
ubotumethinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/02:49
mnoiri think xfce is a little prettier02:49
Hobbseeoh is it?02:49
kkathmanyah02:49
Hobbseecool02:49
mnoirbut I run kde now02:49
kkathmanso they can search using apt-cache02:49
ryanakcahmm.... I like kde over anything else02:50
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nabzagreed02:50
_andyyeah02:50
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nabzandy u got finish tht chal :@02:50
__mikemmnoir, when you say you think its pretier, pretier than what, gnome or kde02:51
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_andyi done it02:51
ryanakcagnome, I understand, kde... never02:51
nabztheme02:51
mnoirgnome - I mean out of the box, minimal coding02:51
_andyu just gotta add the theme to phpbb02:51
nabzhey, anyone no how to download new themes for kde?02:51
_andyu said u was doing member02:51
ryanakca_andy: you read that howto for making kde look like mac?02:51
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mnoirlast time i worked hard on configging a wm was fvwm202:52
_andynot yet im on the page tho02:52
mnoirtoo hard02:52
__mikemI suppose I can give xfce a shot02:53
sonicHello? Anybody have any experience with xen?02:53
_andybrb02:53
mnoiri am just getting into it - got a problem - it seems to trigger screen locking in my kde session02:54
nabzanyone know how to change the boot  screen?02:54
mnoirand the lock won't unlock  :(02:54
mnoirso proceed slowly....02:54
__mikemIs it posible to have xfce installed alongside both kde and gnome02:55
Hobbseemnoir: you can use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart from a terminal, but that will reset your session02:55
Hobbsee__mikem: yes, it is02:55
__mikemok02:55
mnoirof course02:55
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mnoirhobb - :) but I'd rather not - that is waaay to much like fixing Uncle Bill's systems :)02:56
nabzguyz. my clocks not showing in the taskbar :s02:56
Hobbseehehe tru02:56
Hobbseee02:56
fit4lfeinstalled dapper form breezy now my xwindows won't start02:56
kkathmannabz:  right click the kicker, add aplet to panel02:57
fit4lfegetting mouse error when I change to vesa too02:57
nabzty i got it :)02:57
ryanakcabbl02:57
__mikemwhat display manager does xfce use02:58
mnoirwill work with gdm, kdm02:59
Psi-Jack__mikem: XFCE doesn't use a display manager.02:59
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__mikemshows you waht I know02:59
mnoirthe xfce page splains how to install02:59
__mikemI am installing it right now I was just curious02:59
__mikemall done, with no errors03:00
__mikemlol03:00
__mikemdarn, thats a shame03:02
__mikemlol03:02
__mikemnvm, that was a bad joke03:02
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nabzhey, how do i install a .deb pacakge?03:05
nabzwell screensaver lol03:05
Psi-Jackdpkg -i filename.deb03:05
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nabzty03:06
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__mikembrb got to reboot to see of xfce works03:07
mnoirwhy not just start another session?03:07
nabzwhy do i keep  getting:03:07
nabzsu: Authentication failure03:07
nabzSorry.03:07
nabzbut my pass is correct03:08
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kkathmannabz root is not enabled in k/ubuntu03:08
hyperactivecrond!amarok03:08
ubotuamarok is, like, totally, a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/03:08
_andytheres no root on ubutunu03:08
hyperactivecrond!amarok1.403:08
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond03:08
kkathmanuse sudo in front of your commands03:08
hyperactivecrond:\03:08
nabzso what can i do?03:08
nabzdpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege03:09
hyperactivecrondnabz: sudo dpkg -i baz03:09
supertijanosudo03:09
kkathmannabz   sudo dpkg......03:09
hyperactivecrondreplace baz with the file u want to install03:09
kkathman!sudo03:09
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:09
nabzty03:09
hyperactivecrond!tell nabz about rootsudo03:09
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nabzty03:09
picoss! configure03:09
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, picoss03:09
picoss!configure03:09
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ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware03:10
supertijanoHahaha picos got hit by a windmill03:10
nabzis that all i need to do to install a screensaver?03:10
supertijanoI would think so..03:11
nabzhmm its not in the configuration03:11
nabznvm03:11
nabzit is. soz03:12
bimberinabz: did you do the full install? (it includes a screensaver)03:12
nabzty guyz :)03:12
bimberinabz: ah, kk :)03:12
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ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:12
picosscan anybody reminds me what is the most important package to ionstall to be abble to compile on ubuntu ?03:13
picossi m talking about something like defaut tools to compile03:13
supertijanoapt-get make?03:13
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picosssupertijano: no03:13
supertijanoI don't know then03:13
picossthx anyway03:14
httpdsspicoss: build-essential03:14
picosshttpdss: thank you that s the one03:14
supertijanoSo why doesn't it come with make anyway?03:14
httpdssit comes with make03:17
mnoirsuper - it does on my system...03:17
httpdssDepends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.0), g++ (>= 4:4.0), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5)03:17
supertijanoIt didn't on mine :/03:17
httpdss:S03:18
supertijanoOh well, it's here now..03:18
nabzhow  can i get the wastbin on desktop?03:18
supertijanoDidn't you ask that earlier today?03:19
nabznope03:19
nabzjus thought of it now lol03:19
supertijanoSomeone did.03:19
nabzmmm03:19
supertijanoYou right click on desktop and click create new location..03:19
nabzi see03:19
supertijanoAnd the location was trash:/03:20
supertijanoI think, if I remember right03:20
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nabz:S03:21
supertijanoThat wasn't it?03:21
nabzit was but like dunno how to set it03:21
nabzi set work path to trash:/03:21
nabzcould not launch trash:/03:22
supertijanoLet me try it..03:22
nabzkk03:22
supertijanoIt seems to work fine for me03:23
nabzhmm03:23
nabzlink to url?03:24
nabzor link to aplication03:24
supertijanourl is trash:/03:24
nabzah03:24
nabzgot it03:24
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nabzty :)03:24
supertijanoOkay?03:24
nabzyup03:24
supertijanoYou're welcome03:24
nabz:)03:24
supertijanoHaha, I actually learned that today03:24
nabzlol03:25
supertijanoI guess it came in handy. :D03:25
nabzyup03:25
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__mikemwell, xfce works quite well03:26
nabzim out guyz03:26
supertijanoBye03:26
nabzbye :) thanx for all the help03:26
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oddiehello all03:27
supertijanoHi oddie03:28
oddiewats happenin03:28
prospero2006I've got dual monitors set up. Is three monitors possible?03:28
supertijanoWhy not? Haha03:29
oddieim sure it would be possible but im not sure how....might need to spend more money03:29
_andyi seen like 6 done :)03:29
prospero2006Nah, I've got spare cards and monitors03:30
_andyi dunno how it was actuallly done tho03:30
oddiehaha03:30
prospero2006I have a bunch of pci monitor cards and like 4 spare 15 inch monitors. Didn't know if it was just a matter of adding them to xorg.conf03:30
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_andyhey how come when i try copy something to /hda1/urs/local/ it says permission denied03:31
prospero2006chmod the directory03:31
prospero2006or sudo03:31
Hobbsee_ i left around 40 mins ago - if anyone's tried to message me within that time, then too bad...03:31
prospero2006or login as roto03:31
prospero2006root03:31
_andyso chmod    777 /hda1/usr/local03:31
_andylike that ?03:32
prospero2006I wouldn't recommend that03:32
supertijanoThat doesn't work too well on kubuntu ;)03:32
oddiedoes anyone know iff there is a way of connecting an xbox 360 to just a linux file server or is it only connectable through media center?03:32
_andyy not 777 ?03:32
prospero2006I remember once I did a chmod -r 777 / in slackware once03:33
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prospero2006totally fucked it up03:33
_andyjust for permissions :S03:33
Hobbseeprospero2006: language...03:34
Hobbseei'll bet it did though hehe03:34
_andywut shall i set it as ?03:34
prospero2006sorry about the language03:34
prospero2006How do I send private messages like that hobbe?03:34
prospero2006It even made my computer beep03:34
prospero2006I would login as root03:35
bimberiprospero2006: by including the nick on the line03:35
prospero2006give me an example bimb?03:35
bimberiprospero2006: i did :)03:35
_andyi dunno the root details...i just installed it and i thought it was root:root but it aint03:35
supertijanoHahahaha03:36
prospero2006edit /etc/kdm/kdmrc I think03:36
prospero2006Then you can login as root03:36
prospero2006do a search for root login in the kubuntu forums03:36
prospero2006easily found03:36
Hobbsee!root03:37
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:37
prospero2006It's good to know how to login as root though03:37
Hobbseeprospero2006: type Hob<tab> then type your message - it's not a private message03:37
prospero2006I think disabling it is bs03:37
Hobbseeworks for any nick03:37
prospero2006Hobbsee:  test03:37
hopePerhaps this is the wrong place to ask this but here we go: I am currently working on a web (XHTML, SVG) based interface for the XMMS2 music backend. Its comming along so beautifully that I was wondering if an entire Unix destop enviorment can be done kinda like that. I was wondering if anyone knows of any relavent projects or research.03:37
prospero2006Hobbsee: that work03:37
Hobbseeit's useful - means that silly people cant log in as root and screw up their systems by accident03:38
Hobbseeprospero2006: indeed :)03:38
_andyty03:38
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prospero2006Coming from Slack, it really turned me off at first03:38
prospero2006I thought, 'screw this' I can't login as root.03:38
JasonFprospero2006: yes you can03:39
oddieso thats a no about the xbox ting03:39
prospero2006kubuntu is supreme. I know I can03:39
JasonFprospero2006: sudo su - or sudo passwd root03:39
prospero2006JasonF: You have to edit a config file for graphical root login03:39
JasonFoh, graphical root03:39
JasonFthat's CRAZY03:39
prospero2006JasonF: I'm just saying at first it turned me off03:39
prospero2006JasonF: Why is that crazy?03:40
JasonFsounds like a great way to screw up your box03:40
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prospero2006JasonF: Not if you know what you're doing03:40
hupp3lwhy is it so crazy to login to root?03:40
prospero2006JasonF: But, yes. One wrong move and you are toast03:41
_andykk done the root password thing..how do i copy to that dir now03:41
prospero2006from terminal: Su root03:41
prospero2006cp *03:41
prospero2006root login can toast your system, but only if you are a dumb ass.03:42
prospero2006Also, you shouldn't run services as root03:42
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hatake_kakashias the old saying goes, 'You should never surf the web as root'03:45
prospero2006Ancient Chinese secret03:46
hatake_kakashilol03:47
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t3nd0how do i list whats in dev ?03:47
hatake_kakashils -l /dev03:47
t3nd0WHOA03:48
t3nd0how many ttyXX should there be03:48
hupp3lhow does linux save programs? Is it just one folder or does it have something like registry entries and makes other folders?03:48
t3nd0i see HELLER03:48
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hatake_kakashihupp3l: depends for distro, for this one, its deb, and dpkg --list will show you whats installed03:49
Psi-JackHmm.03:49
hatake_kakashit3nd0: probably a fair bit03:49
prospero2006I just read an article on that today03:49
t3nd0arent those seperate instances of the command thing03:49
prospero2006It compared the windows registry system to apples one directory system to linux's system03:49
_andy___bak sorry got d/c03:49
Psi-JackWell, I almost have a Lexmark Z600 Ubuntu package made and ready for testing/distribution. :)03:49
prospero2006Linux spreads shit around03:49
prospero2006sorry, language again03:49
hatake_kakashi_andy___: yes alot of join/part.. I was thinking you were trying to flood03:49
_andy___sorry i aint used to irc03:50
Psi-Jackprospero2006: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and Debian, actually follow the FHS standards of organization.03:50
hatake_kakashit3nd0: terminals, yes03:50
prospero2006Psi-Jack: I'm new to Debian. I am a Slack user03:50
Psi-Jackprospero2006: Slack follows the same standard.03:51
hatake_kakashiSlack is different, I do not know if they have a package manager03:51
Psi-Jackhatake_kakashi: It does.03:51
prospero2006Psi-Jack: Seems like it03:51
prospero2006slack has package management03:51
hatake_kakashiPsi-Jack: ahh ok03:51
prospero2006installpkg03:51
Psi-Jackhatake_kakashi: It's very similar to Solaris's *.pkg-style management. :)03:51
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Psi-JackAka: painfully minimal.03:52
hatake_kakashiprospero2006: well if it does, it obviously has a place to store where you installed programs03:52
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prospero2006Ubuntu's adept blew my mind03:52
hatake_kakashiPsi-Jack: heh03:52
prospero2006totally blew my mind03:52
Psi-Jackprospero2006: That's actually Kubuntu's Adept. Ubuntu uses Synaptic.03:52
prospero2006Psi-Jack: right.03:52
hatake_kakashithere's also kynaptic, etc03:53
Psi-JackKynaptic? Oh geez.03:53
prospero2006Windows is going to release Vista in like 7 months03:53
hatake_kakashiI've got both KDE and Gnome setup on my box here :)03:53
hatake_kakashiprospero2006: don't hold your aims too high03:53
Psi-Jackprospero2006: And I will never run it.03:53
prospero2006I won't run Vista eitehr03:53
prospero2006Read several reviews. Seems unimpressive03:54
supertijanoIt's only for 64bit right?03:54
prospero2006Windows is a slug. Period03:54
Psi-Jacksupertijano: Are you smoking crack again?03:54
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prospero2006Vista will be backwards compatible03:54
supertijanoMaybe a little03:54
supertijanoHahaha03:54
hatake_kakashithey said they will put in winfs yet they at the last few moments they pulled it out03:54
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hatake_kakashi__mikem: hi03:55
__mikemhey03:55
Psi-JackHmm03:55
prospero2006From what I've read, vista is just eye candy03:55
__mikemI just installed xfce and I like it03:55
Psi-JackWhat's the package that has libstdc++5?03:55
hupp3lso does it install all files into deb?03:55
_andy___how can i copy something to /hda1/user/local after i fixed the root account03:56
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hatake_kakashiprospero2006: I've also saw the screen shots, and I agree.. They also said that vista will have lower spec requirements depending on how much eyecandy you need. imo its all really just bs, rumors said that it requires fairly good graphics card and about 1GB of RAM (!)03:56
prospero2006yep03:57
hatake_kakashihupp3l: deb is a packaged file, and dpkg is the place where it does the installing, etc03:57
_andy___windows xp is about the best but linux walks over em all03:57
prospero2006I've ditched windows completely at this point. Now I can play poker on linux03:57
hupp3lo ok. but usually in linux you have to compile the source first?03:58
hatake_kakashi_andy___: I will never touch xp, 2k was my last and dare I say best windows os it probably was yet it despised me03:58
_andy___lol03:58
hatake_kakashihupp3l: you don't need to _unless_ if you really wanted to03:58
_andy___wut about running stuff like vb6 and paint shop etc03:58
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supertijanoI still have Windows. :/03:58
Psi-Jackhupp3l: Distributions like Gentoo, you literally compile /everything./ Which can take days, even weeks or months.03:59
_andy___thats the main reason i havent swaped both pcs to linux03:59
prospero2006It's good to be able to run windows, but I never do.03:59
prospero2006I have 2 pcs. Both dual boot03:59
hatake_kakashihupp3l: depending on distros, gentoo kinda has this approach of getting sources and compiling it. There is very very minimal speed gain from doing so03:59
Psi-Jack_andy___: I run Windows 2000 inside of Linux, in a Window of it's own.03:59
_bcan u do same thing with xp ?03:59
_andy___like vmware ?03:59
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Psi-Jack_andy___: Exactly.04:00
_andy___i used to run knoppix-std in windows xp04:00
hatake_kakashiI will let windows run on my slower machines, I will never let windows touch my newer computers because they are nothing more than bloatware04:00
hupp3lso hatake what files do I download if I want to install a prog in linux?04:00
prospero2006linux runs vmware, but the last time I tried it it fuck me up04:00
prospero2006damn language04:00
prospero2006sorry04:00
supertijanoHahaha.. Niiiice04:00
Psi-Jackprospero2006: *sighs*04:00
hatake_kakashihupp3l: usually you go through apt-get04:00
_andy___yeah vmware screwed my network settings up lol04:00
Psi-Jackprospero2006: Think, and  re-read before you hit enter from now on.04:00
supertijanoYeah right..04:01
hupp3lok and how do I get the list of software from apt-get?04:01
prospero2006Psi-Jack: Sorry, Playing poker. I won't swear on this channel anymore. Just comes naturally.04:01
hatake_kakashihupp3l: with kubuntu, you can also install .rpm packages (which are part of redhat packages) and if those fail you, you can always use the source and compile it04:01
Psi-Jackprospero2006: See that you don't.04:01
prospero2006Psi-Jack: You moderate?04:01
hatake_kakashihupp3l: list what software? you installed or you want to install?04:01
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hupp3lwant to install04:02
hupp3llike if I want to install say xchat04:02
supertijanoPsi_Jack accused me of doing crack. I doubt he's a mod.04:02
hatake_kakashihupp3l: apt-cache search xchat04:02
hupp3lo ok04:02
hatake_kakashihupp3l: btw that'04:02
hupp3lthank you04:02
iceI have dapper installed now but I can;t get kde to come on only xfce04:02
icehow do I fix this04:02
_andy___where can i get G++ from ?04:02
hatake_kakashibtw that's cmd line based, in kde there is are front-end ones such as kynaptic, adept, etc04:02
Psi-Jacksupertijano: No no no., I asked if you were on crack, AGAIN. :)04:02
prospero2006If you insatll the gnome desktop package, how do you switch desktops?04:03
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supertijanoI'm sorry, I got it backwards.04:03
bimberiprospero2006: Sessions menu on the logon screen04:03
hatake_kakashiprospero2006: when you log out of KDE, and back onto kdm (the login page) there is a place called 'session' click on it and you will see the options available04:03
supertijanoBut you implied I was on it in the first place ;)04:03
prospero2006thanks04:03
prospero2006I'll have to install gnome. I haven't even looked at it04:04
supertijanoYou don't have to pro..04:04
prospero2006?04:04
_andy___permission denied on /hda1/usr/local.....how can i put files in there without it telling me i cant04:04
hatake_kakashisupertijano: stop being pro-KDE04:04
supertijanoHaha. Sorry, I just like KDE04:05
hatake_kakashi_andy___: sudo04:05
supertijanoit IS a Kubuntu forum after all, right?04:05
_andy___how tho lol04:05
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icecan anyone help me04:05
Psi-Jacksupertijano: No, This is a Kubuntu IRC channel.04:05
hatake_kakashiice: no idea, I'm not on dapper04:05
prospero2006Down with Gnome! Up with --uh- what rhymes with gnome?04:06
supertijanoOh man, What's wrong with me today?04:06
hatake_kakashi_andy___: sudo mv /source/foo /target/foo04:06
supertijanoI'm like permenently stuck on blonde.04:06
Psi-Jacksupertijano: *taps his foot and glares* I think we know. Now..04:06
_andy___ty04:06
hatake_kakashi_andy___: btw that's move not copy04:06
supertijanoI'm ashamed of myself.04:07
_andy___its ok :)04:07
hatake_kakashi_andy___: just a warning04:07
_andy___y :)04:07
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Coolio10hi04:08
hatake_kakashi_andy___: you don't want to make a mistake when you wanted a completely different command to do whatever you need04:08
_banyone run enemy territory here ?04:08
supertijanoMeaning?04:09
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_bme ? its a game title04:10
AshexYay! More problems!04:10
supertijanoOh. No sorry04:10
AshexHookay, When I reboot and start loading Kubuntu, it freezes up while loading drivers.04:10
JasonFI can't get crossover office to install on ubuntu. It says I have to su to root instead of using sudo, but when I do, I get errors about the xserver being unavailable04:10
_banyway its a free fps might whant to check it out runs on lesser hardware =Q3 engine04:12
Coolio10JasonF is your fxerver working fine?04:12
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JasonFCoolio10: fxerver?04:13
Coolio10xserver04:13
t3nd0i dont have "get" command what do i use ????04:13
JasonFCoolio10: um, I'm in X right now04:13
t3nd0im trying to "get xmms-mp3 fpr debian"04:13
t3nd0so i can play mp3s04:13
oddieapt-get04:14
oddie?04:14
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t3nd0tendo@deftek:~$ apt-get xmms-mp3 fpr debian04:14
t3nd0E: Invalid operation xmms-m04:14
Coolio10have you tried it outside xserver?04:14
JasonFCoolio10: no, the installer requires X to run04:15
JasonFSetup requires an X display to run. There is a display variable set, however04:15
JasonFyou have no permissions to access the X server (:0) it points to.04:15
JasonFthat's the error I get, at least the verbose one04:15
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t3nd0Please check that: Your sound card is configured properly; You have the correct output plugin :*(04:18
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Psi-Jack!seveas04:21
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:21
oddieJasonF: are u instaling from command?04:21
supertijano!blonde04:21
ubotusupertijano: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:21
supertijanoHahahaha I just wanted to do that04:21
JasonFoddie: nevermind, I got it04:21
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oddieno worries04:22
oddieyou can run 'sudo screen'04:22
oddiethat will run a terminal as root04:22
JasonFoddie: the problem is more than that, if you'll read further04:23
oddieJasonF: yer sorry :(04:23
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_andy___i still cant move this folder04:25
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_andy___:-S04:25
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supertijanoWhat have you tried so far?04:25
_andy___mv04:25
supertijanoAnd you're logged in as root now?04:26
_andy___no when i go to login screen it says root isnt allowed but i activated it like u said04:26
_andy___or some1 else said lol04:26
supertijanoDo you have the folder open in Konqueror?04:27
robotgeek_andy___: why are you logged in as root??04:27
_andy___im not04:27
supertijanoHe can't04:27
_andy___nope folder wasnt open04:27
stupendo44OK, I seriously need help. Before it was just an annoyance, but not it's gotten to be a problem. A couple weeks ago, whenever I started Kubuntu (rare restart) it would load a couple instances of SpeedCrunch. Since yesterday, it now loads about 50 SpeedCrunchs. Is there any way to clear out this session that it's trying to restore? How can I debug this?04:27
_andy___it says the file doesnt exist04:27
supertijanoDId you do sudo mv?04:28
_andy___yeah04:28
supertijanoWhat directory is it?04:28
_andy___the folder i want to move is in /hda1/home/andy/msf04:28
supertijanoWell, I don't know, maybe you should try cp and then delete the first one?04:28
_andy___and i want to put it in /hda1/usr/local/04:28
t3nd0how do i get mplayer ?04:29
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oddiesudo apt-get install mplayer04:30
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brexelmorning :)04:31
__mikemmorning?04:31
oddiemorning brexel04:31
t3nd0hrm doesnt werk04:31
__mikemits 1030 where I am04:31
brexel04:31 here :)04:31
__mikemwhere do you live?04:31
oddiet3nd0: wats it say?04:31
__mikemchina04:31
brexelaustria04:31
_andy___wtf shit still aint working GRRRRR04:32
oddie13:34 here04:32
__mikemoh04:32
_andy___sorry about lang04:32
t3nd0http://pastebin.com/55894904:32
t3nd0man copy paste sucks in linux :/04:32
brexela real surprise would be 10:15 or so :D04:32
stupendo44t3nd0: different, not bad04:32
__mikemnothing sucks in linux04:32
T3hWiz0rd__mikem: don't overglorify. linux has many improvements to make04:32
brexelT3hWiz0rd: i just wanted to say something like that04:33
T3hWiz0rdbrexel: haha04:33
t3nd0copy paste sucks sorry to burst the bubble04:33
T3hWiz0rdt3nd0: keep "klipper" open04:33
robotgeekt3nd0: not if you use klipper :)04:33
brexelcopy paste?!04:33
brexelthat's like the thing i like most in kde :D04:33
__mikemI know, I was being humerous04:34
t3nd0klipper is hella on04:34
brexelhaha04:34
brexelsry04:34
brexeldidn't get that04:34
t3nd0still misses control-c sometimes04:34
brexel<-- wasted04:34
T3hWiz0rdt3nd0: if klipper was "hella on" you'd be "hella pasting"04:34
supertijanohahaha04:34
t3nd0i just hella pasted04:34
t3nd0but i had to do it twice04:34
t3nd0:D04:34
supertijanoHence the hella04:34
T3hWiz0rdjust to emphisize the stress (spelling?)04:35
__mikemSpelling is for people who have spare time04:35
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T3hWiz0rd__mikem: your philosophies scare me...04:36
__mikemlol04:36
T3hWiz0rdwhats next?04:36
brexelspelling is for people who have ispell04:36
__mikemlmao04:36
T3hWiz0rd"paying attention to what you are doing while driving is for LOSERS!!" BUAHAHAHA!04:36
supertijanoHahaha04:36
t3nd0dudes please help me get my sound working its been like a week without music.  thats heller not fly.  I read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76788 which says that my soundcard: Maudio 1010LT works on the initial install with esd.  but it is mos definately NOT working :(04:36
t3nd0i've tried installing a bunch of apps: xmms, vlc, msound, etc and none of it will play sound04:36
__mikemCommenting your code is for the weak and timid04:36
T3hWiz0rdokay t3nd0... do you have more than one sound output device? like an onboard + a pci sound card?04:36
t3nd0yes04:37
t3nd0and in kmixer i have "maudio" selected04:37
supertijanoHaha, this is going overboard.04:37
T3hWiz0rdt3nd0: turn off the on-board in your bios configuration.04:37
robotgeek__mikem: famous last words :)04:37
__mikemlol04:37
__mikemespecially in assembly language04:37
t3nd0really?04:37
t3nd0why is that necessary04:37
T3hWiz0rdt3nd0: iunno, there is another way, but its not as easy.04:37
t3nd0ugh.  ok brb04:38
__mikemI had no problem getting my sound to work, but there were a lot of packages to download, I still don't remember all of them, so its going to be the same adventure when I upgrade04:38
supertijanoI've always wondered.. how do change the message when you leave?04:39
_bdoes anyone run via epia ? is there some tweaks i shud know about ?04:39
__mikemive always wondered, when you close the refrigerator door, does the little light stay on?04:39
supertijanoIt does not04:39
__mikemlol i Know04:39
supertijanoHaha I know04:39
brexelhahaha04:39
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supertijanoBut I know for sure. ;)04:39
brexel^^04:39
supertijanoMy dad taught me a valuable lesson when I was 804:40
__mikemdo tell04:40
supertijanoI was talking about the refrigerator. Haha04:40
T3hWiz0rd__mikem: i have two output devices... suse functions fine with both, but kubuntu seems to get itself confused.04:41
__mikemwell, what do you want me to do about it04:41
_andy___how u chmod so its 77704:41
supertijanoHe told me there was this guy who drilled a hole in the 'frige to see whether the light went off.04:42
__mikemlol enough with the frig, your killing me04:42
kkathman_andy___:  sudo chmod 777 <file>04:42
supertijanoSorry.04:42
__mikemjk04:42
supertijanoI'm done anyway04:42
_andy___kk ty04:42
kkathman_andy___:  for use of any command....try   man  <command>  in a konsole04:43
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tendook so when i restarted i heard some like "startup" noises that i'd never heard before04:43
_andy___ohhh ty :)04:43
__mikemWHich is better xfce or gnome04:43
_andy___shit04:43
tendoxmms still won't play audio though04:43
_andy___now i cant access /usr/local04:44
_andy___:-S04:44
_andy___arh fixed04:45
brexel_andy___: you know 777 is usually bad?04:45
_andy___y ?04:45
supertijanoI thought it was 666?04:45
oddielol04:45
__mikemno, thats the devil04:45
brexelbecause it allows EVERYONE to change/execute the file04:45
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_andy___777 is allow all aint it04:45
supertijanowhich is bad...04:45
_andy___ooo lol04:46
brexelyour files should be 64404:46
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_andy___wut shall i set it as then ?04:46
__mikemandy I think he was talking to me04:46
brexelabd your dirs should be 75504:46
_andy___kk ty04:46
brexeldunno, :D04:46
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t3nd0ok so i restarted and heard some startup noises (for the first time), how come xmms, vlc, etc won't play sound04:47
_andy___how do i create sybolic links to a path :-S04:48
brexel_andy___: ln -s04:48
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_andy___dunt get it ?04:49
brexelln -s /path/from path/to04:49
brexelln -s /path/from /path/to04:49
brexel:)04:49
_andy___:) ty04:49
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brexelt3nd0: try lsof | grep dsp04:50
brexelcheck which program is sitting on your soundcard04:50
brexelif it is artsd for example04:50
brexelyou need to tell xmms to use the artsdsp output plugin in its prefs04:51
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fascinatedhey, everyone04:51
supertijanoHello04:52
oddiei also have sound problems but i think mine is user error....04:52
t3nd0can anyone tell me what this sound error means ??? please http://www.deftek.net/gallery/albums/userpics/sound.jpg04:52
brexel[04:50]  <brexel> t3nd0: try lsof | grep dsp04:54
brexelsomething is sitting on your soundcard blocking it04:54
t3nd0http://pastebin.com/55897904:54
_andy___g2g tc ppl, thanks for all the help04:54
_andy___bye04:54
supertijanobye04:55
supertijano... or not.04:55
_bwhats a god firewall for kde ? i like the keiro/sunbelt gui and display of connections in xp04:55
oddiemultiple sounds with an nfource card can not be done?04:56
stupendo44_b: what do you mean by "god firewall"04:56
stupendo44ooooooohhhhhhhh04:56
stupendo44nm04:57
brexelhaha04:57
brexel:)04:57
supertijanoHaha04:57
_b? :)04:57
stupendo44internal spellchecker was off04:57
supertijanoI though you were being sarcastic.04:57
stupendo44now that that's fixed...04:57
fascinatedsarcasm on irc? never04:57
brexelxD04:57
supertijanoHahaha04:57
__mikemI can't get KSayIt to start04:57
__mikemplease help04:58
fascinatedeveryone's so polite and friendly04:58
oddieok so thats a no from everyone? multiple programs can not use the sound card at the same time?04:58
brexeloddie: yes they can04:58
supertijanoI guess not.04:58
brexelof course04:58
brexelyou need to use a sound server04:58
supertijanoHahaha Just ignore me04:58
brexellike artsd04:58
stupendo44_b: I like to use KMyFirewall, which is a frontend to configure IPTables04:58
brexelor esd04:58
oddiebrexel: so its user error....04:58
sniffhey peeps04:58
stupendo44_b: it makes it fairly easy to configure ports and stuff04:58
brexeloddie: maybe your cfg is just not correct ^^04:58
sniffi'm back to help any n00bs who are more n00b than me!04:58
_bthx ill give it a look04:59
stupendo44too bad nobody can help me.....  *whimpers*04:59
fascinatedwhat did you need help with stupendo?04:59
brexelstupendo44: what was your prob again?04:59
brexelhehehe04:59
oddiebrexel: i have followed many tutorial.......I can get sound from gstream...so i can play music and watch movies.....04:59
stupendo44OK, I seriously need help. Before it was just an annoyance, but not it's gotten to be a problem. A couple weeks ago, whenever I started Kubuntu (rare restart) it would load a couple instances of SpeedCrunch. Since yesterday, it now loads about 50 SpeedCrunchs. Is there any way to clear out this session that it's trying to restore? How can I debug this?04:59
brexel#kubuntu is so nice :)04:59
__mikemI can't get KSayIt to start help please04:59
oddiebrexel: but not play music and play games04:59
brexeloddie: yes it works05:00
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brexeloddie: start the game with `artsdsp game`05:00
oddiehhmmm...05:00
oddiebrexel: wat if its cedega....05:00
__mikem!KSayIt05:01
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, __mikem05:01
brexelbrexel: not sure if cedega can be run with artsdsp...you might wanna check the cedega forums05:01
__mikemI need help with KSayIt05:01
brexeloddie: i meant u :) not myself05:01
fascinatedstupendo : that speedcrunch tool looks handy05:02
brexelstupendo44: in the worst case you can rm -rf ~/.kde but that will delete all your kde settings. i would recommend going into .kde and searching for the program that is started too often05:02
brexelstupendo44: like grep -iR speedcrunch .kde/05:02
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stupendo44brexel: isn't there a certain place things are when they are set to start? Like a "startup" firectory?05:03
brexelstupendo44: yes, in .kde/Autostart05:03
__mikemI need help with KSayIt, Please help05:03
brexelbut kde also remembers what you had open when you log out somewhere else05:03
brexel__mikem: i think i tried that program once and it just died with a segfault05:03
stupendo44brexel: and where are those saved. I think that session thing is my problem05:04
brexel__mikem: == programming error05:04
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brexel[05:02]  <brexel> stupendo44: like grep -iR speedcrunch .kde/05:04
__mikembrexel kttsmgr doesn't work either05:04
brexel__mikem: dunno that program sry ^^05:04
stupendo44I did that. It found something in .kde/share/config/kickerrc05:05
FunnyLookinHatWhat sources.list file do I edit for kubuntu??05:05
brexelstupendo44: kickerrc is thye config of the task bar05:05
fascinatedi'm starting to love kdevelop05:05
stupendo44brexel: here's the output of grep: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/55899205:06
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brexeli would try to rename .kde/share/config/kickerrc and see what it does :)05:07
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brexelyou can rename it back if it doesn't help05:08
stupendo44right05:08
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dsl1008hey05:08
stupendo44brexel: will it create a new one05:08
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AshexI've got yet another problem05:08
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FunnyLookinHatCrappit all05:09
AshexI can't get X to load, startx doesn't work05:09
Ashexso I've booted off my thumbdrive so I can view the log and use irc05:09
Ashexhowever05:09
AshexI haven't a clue how to open it from dsl05:09
stupendo44brexel: ok, trying a reboot now. Will be back05:09
brexelalright :)05:10
brexelrelogin should be enough though05:10
stupendo44right05:10
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Ashexhow do I open a file on another partition?05:10
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Ashexlittle help?05:11
stupendo44brexel: ok, that fixed it. Obviously my kicker is reset back. Can we figure out what in kickerrc is the problem?05:11
stupendo44brexel: actually, before we do that, I want to see if it will break again if I put the kickerrc back05:12
brexeljust open the file with a text editor and try to figure it out ^^05:12
hatake_kakashiAshex: if the partition is mounted, you need to change to that directory so you can then open it05:12
Ashexwhats the command in bash to change drives?05:12
hatake_kakashicd05:12
stupendo44Ashex: what do you mean "change"05:12
Ashexlemme rephrase05:12
Ashexhow do I get to sda505:12
Ashexcd sda5 wouldn't work05:13
hatake_kakashiwhere is sda5 mounted to? mnt or media05:13
brexelAshex: you need to mount it somewhere05:13
hatake_kakashimount| grep sda505:13
Ashexsweet05:13
Ashexthat's what I needed, it's in /mnt/sda705:14
sniffph yeah05:14
AshexNow to find that error log....05:14
stupendo44brexel: it's in the [menu]  section in kickerrc, under an entry called 'RecentAppsStat'05:14
sniffhow might one go about decrypting received mail in kontact|?05:14
brexel:) great05:14
Ashexwhat's the most likely place for the X error log to be?05:14
hatake_kakashiAshex: your home directory05:15
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hatake_kakashisniff: only if kontact supports encrypted mail, check under help05:15
stupendo44brexel: are you familiar with that section?05:15
brexelstupendo44: no sry i never edited that file before ^^05:15
stupendo44brexel: ok05:15
stupendo44brexel: thanks for your help05:16
brexelyw :)05:16
sniffhatake_kakashi: it does! it lets me send encrypted and signed email, but when i receive one it doesn't ask me to provide a passeword so I cannot read it05:16
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Ashexnope, it's not in that directory05:17
hatake_kakashisniff: well check under help file05:17
hatake_kakashiAshex: its a hidden file. the file has . in front of it05:17
sniffhatake_kakashi: er.. thanks, my help files don't work05:17
hatake_kakashisniff: blah, well I don't use kontact05:18
sniffsf Psi-Jack said it's a glitch05:18
sniffhatake_kakashi: your help doesn't work?05:18
Ashexhow would I get it to display a hidden file?05:18
Psi-JackHmm?05:18
hatake_kakashisniff: I can't see it nor do I use the program05:18
sniffkde help and indexing doesn't work05:19
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hatake_kakashiAshex: ls -al05:19
Psi-Jacksniff: apt-get install htdig05:19
sniffwhat is this?05:19
Psi-JackIndexing will suddenly work. :)05:19
sniffthat's nice of them to include it05:19
sniffcouldn't possibly be in the default install could it>05:19
Psi-Jackit's technically not ... necessary. just annoying not to include it.05:19
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sniffPsi-Jack: do you use kontact?05:20
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Psi-Jacksniff: Rarely.05:20
sniffPsi-Jack: would you happen to know how to get it to decrypt received email?>05:20
Psi-Jacksniff: I can find out real quick if you send me a signed email to erenfro@gmail.com05:21
Ashexi don't see the error05:21
Ashexer, I don't see the error log05:21
sniffPsi-Jack: not encrypted email?05:21
Psi-Jacksniff: You can't encrypt to me yet. I'm initiating the keypair trade. ;)05:21
hatake_kakashiAshex: you have to be konsole/terminal to do so05:21
AshexI'm using bash05:22
Psi-Jacksniff: Basically, you send me a signed message, I'll send one back, and we'll have each others signatures. I think.. :)05:22
hatake_kakashiAshex: its .xsession-errors :p05:22
sniffer05:22
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sniffPsi-Jack: as far as i know it's done05:24
Ashexwhen I do ls -al in /mnt/sda7/home it displays "." ".." and "ashex"05:24
hatake_kakashiAshex: it would be under /mnt/sda7/home/ashex05:24
Psi-JackHmm05:24
sniffPsi-Jack: this new version of kontact won't let me mark messages as spam - what the deal?05:25
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Psi-Jacksniff: You have to get bogofilter, and/or spamassassin.05:25
Ashexall I see is .Xauthority05:25
Ashexbut I think I found it in /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:25
sniffPsi-Jack: spam assassin is installed and configured05:26
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sniffPsi-Jack: also when i compose a message i've lost the little tick boxes at the bottom that let me choose to encrypt/sign or compress05:26
AshexHookay, I've got a massive amount of errors05:26
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sniffPsi-Jack: ah sorry forget the latter please05:27
Psi-Jackheh05:27
sniffPsi-Jack: send me an email with you public key05:27
Psi-JackTrying to figure out how to import your sig. :/05:27
Ashexhow do I copy text from Bash?05:27
sniffwhy do you want to import my sig?05:28
sniffyou need my public key.. no?05:28
Psi-Jacksniff: Yes. your public key.05:28
hatake_kakashiAshex: you can't if you're on a real terminal :P do it in konsole/terminal05:28
brexelAshex: ctrl+w to cut, ctrl+y to paste05:28
Psi-JackWhich, is supposed to be in your signature. heh05:28
Psi-JackMaybe I'm just messed up. LOL05:28
hatake_kakashibrexel: from a proper tty?05:29
brexelyes05:29
brexelman bash :)05:29
brexelbash uses emacs keys by default05:29
hatake_kakashibrexel: and I wonder how is one supposed to cut if there is no mouse cursor on tty05:29
brexelyou can also make it use vi keys05:30
Psi-Jackbrexel: Since when?05:30
brexelhatake_kakashi: have you read man bash already?05:30
brexelPsi-Jack: forever05:30
Psi-Jackbash has nothing, and I mean /nothing/ to do with emacs.05:30
brexelPsi-Jack: that is wrong05:30
brexelit uses the emacs shortcuts05:30
Psi-Jackbrexel: Or rather, does emacs use bash shortcuts, or korn shortcuts? :}05:31
sniffPsi-Jack: i still don't have any option to manually mark messages as spam05:31
brexelPsi-Jack: just take a look at man bash and you will learn that bash explicitly uses the same shortcuts as emacs05:31
Psi-Jacksniff: Have you figured out how to import my key from the mail I sent?05:31
sniffi haven't receive your mail yet - lol05:32
Psi-Jackbrexel: Which came first. bash or emacs? :)05:32
brexelwhat does that have to do with anything?05:32
brexelRTFM05:32
brexelREADLINE05:32
brexel       This is the library that handles reading input when using an interactive shell,  unless  the  --noediting05:32
brexel       option  is  given  at  shell  invocation.   By default, the line editing commands are similar to those of05:32
brexel       emacs.  A vi-style line editing interface is also available.  To turn off line editing after the shell is05:32
brexel       running, use the +o emacs or +o vi options to the set builtin (see SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS below).05:32
Psi-JackHmm. OKay. I'm just totally running in the wrong direction.05:33
brexelit doesn't matter what was first does it? :)05:33
oddieegg was first!!!!!!!!!!05:34
brexelno the cock05:34
brexeluhm05:34
brexel..05:34
oddielol05:34
fascinatednice05:34
brexelthis world is too complicated05:34
hatake_kakashibrexel: which version of bash are you on?05:35
brexel~ $ echo $BASH_VERSION05:35
brexel3.00.16(1)-release05:35
hatake_kakashihm05:35
brexelPsi-Jack: sorry if i was rude before ^^05:36
sniff!repos05:37
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:37
sniff!sources05:37
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:37
Psi-Jacksniff: It's okay. I sent you my key. LOl05:37
sniff!easysource05:37
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:37
sniffah05:37
sniffthank you ubotu05:37
sniffPsi-Jack: i'm still waiting for it to arrive05:38
AshexHookay05:38
AshexI've got this error when trying to load X: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/55901705:38
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Ashexany ideas?05:40
sniffsorry mate, i fon05:40
Psi-Jacksniff: Then after that, you will get an encrypted email. ;)05:40
sniffi don't even know what x is05:40
sniff:)05:40
Psi-JackX is what you are using right now, to be in KDE.05:41
AshexX is the gui interface for Kubuntu :p05:41
sniffi already sent myself encryped emails05:41
Psi-JackAshex: Bzz. Incorrect.05:41
AshexI tried :/05:41
sniffi thought x was a letter on my keyboard ;)05:41
hatake_kakashi!Xorg05:41
ubotuwell, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:41
hatake_kakashi!X05:41
ubotuhatake_kakashi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:41
Psi-Jackubotu: X is a portable, network-transparent window system.05:42
ubotuokay, Psi-Jack05:42
Psi-JackThere. :p05:42
Psi-Jack!X05:42
ubotuhmm... x is a portable, network-transparent window system.05:42
sniffanyone used Matthias Klose repos for updating oo.o?05:42
Ashexany idea?05:43
sniffi mean is it "safe"?05:43
Psi-Jacksniff: Anyway, do you have bogofilter, or just spamassassin?05:43
Psi-Jacksniff: I /only/ use official repos for main things. I remove /all/ others when not specifically using them05:43
Ashexso I guess I'm screwed with X?05:44
hatake_kakashiAshex: no, just ask on the forum05:45
AshexHookay05:45
Ashexubuntuforums.com?05:45
hatake_kakashiAshex: I can't open up websites because I don't have lynx/etc installed and on my Xorg window, its on failsafe, and is updating through shaped connection. Also I got a hangover, go figure05:46
brexellol hatake_kakashi05:46
brexeli'm gonna have one tomorrow :D05:46
Psi-Jacksniff: Regarding encrypting emails. This is the reason I did the whole keypair trading with you, to demonstrate. You have to have the other person's key to encrypt it to, basically. You basically encrypt it, encoded to THEIR key, so they can decrypt it. :)05:46
hatake_kakashibrexel: trust me, it feels very awkward to be in hangover :S05:47
Ashexhatake_kakashi, just don't listen to loud music then :p05:47
brexelhatake_kakashi: i know i've been drinking for 6 days now :D05:47
hatake_kakashiAshex: I don't have any loud music on.. and if some idiot is playing loud music that I can hear.. trust me, I will roar like hell05:48
hatake_kakashibrexel: blah05:48
brexel?05:48
hatake_kakashibrexel: so you are drunk and you have hangover whilst on IRC?05:48
brexelyes05:48
sniffPsi-Jack: yeah, thanks05:49
brexelis that unusual? XD05:49
hatake_kakashibleh, I cbf doing that, I'd be like literally restless05:49
sniffPsi-Jack: but i mean i encrypted and email to myself and sent it to myself05:49
hatake_kakashiin fact I can't sleep well with this stupid hangover05:49
brexeldrink something ^^05:49
hatake_kakashibrexel: drank water, no use05:49
brexelbeer i meant05:49
hatake_kakashiin fact.. large amounts05:49
hatake_kakashilmao05:49
brexelrepairbeer ^^05:50
sniff!beer05:50
=== ubotu pours sniff a cold pint of his favourite beer.
brexel:D05:50
sniff!hangover05:50
ubotusniff: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:50
sniffmmm05:50
sniffmy fave beer05:50
sniffPsi-Jack: i have spam assassin installed and configured in kontact05:51
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sniffPsi-Jack: i went through the setup this mornign05:51
sniffmorning05:51
hatake_kakashibrexel: you know about Frangelico? that liqueor? my flatmate and I drank literally half yesterday in my timezone05:51
Psi-Jacksniff: I don't think spamassasin alone will let you flag mail as spam/ham, in kmail. That's what bogofilter is for, I believe.. .. I could be wrong, but I used only bogofilter on mine. ;)05:51
hatake_kakashierr one bottle, half each05:51
sniffPsi-Jack: what email client do you use?05:52
brexelhatake_kakashi: no never heard of that...i don't drink schnaps stuff. i only drink beer or wine very rarely05:52
Psi-Jacksniff: kmail05:52
sniffPsi-Jack: so that's the same as kontact05:52
Psi-JackYes05:52
sniffPsi-Jack: i thought you said you didn't use it05:52
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sniffhm05:52
Psi-Jacksniff: I don't use kontact. You didn't ask if I used kmail. ;)05:53
sniffPsi-Jack: i sent you an encrypted email05:53
sniffPsi-Jack: yeah good point05:53
sniffPsi-Jack: atleast i knew what i was talking about ;)05:53
hatake_kakashibrexel: heh, liqueor is roughly 37% alcohol, really gets you going when you drank that much along with 3 1/2 stubies of 4% alcohol beer05:53
brexelhehehe05:53
brexel37%05:53
brexelthat sounds dangerous05:54
brexel*shivers*05:54
hatake_kakashianyway speaking of spam/ham I'm hungry.. lol05:54
brexel:D05:54
brexelhatake_kakashi: is your name from naruto?05:54
hatake_kakashibrexel: yeah.. imagine having that along with beer.. in fact make it literally half of that bottle along with 3 1/2 stubbies05:54
Psi-JackHmm, odd..05:54
hatake_kakashibrexel: my nick, yes05:54
brexel:)05:54
brexeli love naruto05:55
hatake_kakashiI don't like the main character, I only like the character that I have put down here as a nick05:55
brexel^^05:55
Psi-Jacksniff: I got your encrypted mail, but it immediately came up, no dialog, or anything, just in the content,, that decryption was not possible. Error being bad passphrase. heh05:55
brexelbeen a long time since i watched it05:55
sniffmmm05:55
hatake_kakashibrexel: ditto05:55
brexelwhat's the name of the guy with the blue shirt again?05:55
sniffPsi-Jack: when i get encry[ted email it just says it#s encrypted05:56
brexelthe guy that becomes bad later?05:56
AshexI "think" I've found my solution05:56
brexelsasuke05:56
brexel:)05:56
sniffPsi-Jack: no option to enter my passphrase or anything05:56
Ashexthere's a thread on there with the same problem05:56
brexeli like him05:56
AshexShasta, this will be a fun job05:56
Psi-Jacksniff: I think that's because it gets cached for X minutes.05:56
sniffyeah05:56
sniffPsi-Jack: so your pass is wrong?05:56
sniffPsi-Jack: please send me an encypted email05:56
Psi-Jacksniff: I sent you one. Did you not get it yet?05:57
sniffer i should look i suppose05:57
sniffPsi-Jack:05:58
sniffEncrypted message (decryption not possible)05:59
sniffReason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data.05:59
sniffError: Decryption failed05:59
sniffPsi-Jack: i got your email, and the body of it is replaced with:05:59
sniffEncrypted message (decryption not possible)05:59
sniffReason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data.05:59
sniffError: Decryption failed05:59
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sniffwell ofcourse it can't decrypt it if it doesn't bloody well ask me for my passphrase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:59
sniffpiece of shit05:59
Psi-JackHeh06:00
Psi-JackI managed to decode yours, using the annoying method.06:00
sniffPsi-Jack: c'mon this is basic functionality06:00
Psi-JackView message source, copy, bring up kgpg's encrypt/decrypt clipboard, etc.06:00
moshehello06:00
sniffyeah i know how to do that but i refuse to when it should work06:01
Psi-JackYeah.. I hear ya there.06:01
mosheI installed redhat-artwork to get the bluecurve theme for kde, and it seemed to install correctly.  I select the theme in KControl, and KControl changes appearance, but no other KDE apps change with it.  Any idea why?06:01
hatake_kakashibrexel: sasuke is jealous, just because he is trying to outdo naruto06:01
sniffPsi-Jack: linux emphasizes security over windows for people who are converting, but when they can't even integrate basic open gpg into mail what hope is there?06:01
Psi-Jackkmail used to have some of the best gpg integration.06:02
sniffmoshe: try selecting another theme, and then changin back to redhat one06:02
moshesniff, I tried that06:02
sniffPsi-Jack: so what went wrong?06:02
AshexHookay06:02
sniffmoshe: try again ;)06:02
hatake_kakashisniff: in fact, the GUI world part of linux is catching up, the bottom thing is, many CLI based apps can do the job06:02
AshexLets hope this works06:02
Psi-Jacksniff: Good question.06:02
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brexelhatake_kakashi: i know but i like his in your face personality although he is poisoned with revenge06:03
hatake_kakashibrexel: ah06:03
brexeland his clothes ^06:03
brexel^06:03
sniffPsi-Jack: i remember that gpg was really well integrated before. About 1.5 years ago i tried suse linux, and i was really impressed bby how it had gpg installed as default06:03
mosheI just switched from Plastik to Bluecurve, but only kcontrol's widgets changed.  the other kde app I have open is still Plastik.06:03
sniffPsi-Jack: it had gpg installed and configured with kmail automatically06:04
Psi-Jackhehe06:04
hatake_kakashilol, my character is calm and collected, somewhat takes thing as a grain of salt.. that is probably something that I cannot adopt very easily06:04
sniffPsi-Jack: i think when you ran kmail for the first time it even asked you if you wanted to generate or import a key pair06:04
brydennso how do i upgrade my Kernal to version 2.6.12-9-386?06:04
brexelhehehe06:04
sniffbrydenn: full upgrade in adept?06:04
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brydennlol thats not an answer sniff ... thats a quesiton hehe06:05
sniffbrydenn: MMM?06:05
sniffbrydenn: when i do full upgrade in adept it upgrades the kernel06:05
hatake_kakashibrydenn: after you have downloaded and installed, you need to reboot for it to take effect because kernel is the heart of OS06:06
sniff!full upgrade06:06
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sniff06:06
sniff!update06:06
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sniff06:06
snifflol06:07
sniffuseless06:07
sniff!kernel06:07
hatake_kakashibrydenn: capish?06:08
brydennyah i understand but what... you want me to do a full system upgrade?06:08
brydennwhy cant i just upgrade the kernel?06:08
sniffmaybe you can search for the kernel06:08
hatake_kakashiI never said that06:08
sniff"kernel" in adept06:08
brydennwell i'm in adept06:08
brydennwhat pack to i install though?06:08
sniffanyway "sudo apt-get install kernelxxxxx???"06:09
brydenni see linux-source-2.6.1206:09
sniffnot the header06:09
brydennis that the verion?06:09
brydenn*version06:09
sniffbrydenn: let me have a look...06:09
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sniffbrydenn: no that's not it06:09
brydennthanks sniff06:10
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Psi-Jacksniff: I'm waiting for any responce from #kde about it.. heh06:10
sniffbrydenn: linux-38606:10
sniffno06:10
sniffbrydenn: linux-68606:11
sniffif you're using a single processor modern pc?06:11
brydennyes AMD Sempron06:11
brydenn2700+06:11
sniffis it 64bit?06:12
brydennno 3206:12
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Psi-JackHobbsee: Morning06:12
sniffbrydenn: no hang on i don't know if it matters anyway06:12
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Psi-JackHobbsee: Err, afternoon, excuuse me. ;)06:12
Hobbseeafternoon Psi-Jack06:12
sniffbrydenn: so are you able to upgrade linux-686?06:12
hatake_kakashiI can't see why not06:12
brydenni guess... adept says the package isnt installed yet06:12
Hobbseehehe06:12
sniffPsi-Jack: how long do you reckon it will take them to respond?06:13
Psi-JackHobbsee: Do you happen to use kmail with openpgp? :)06:13
Psi-Jacksniff: Days, at this rate. :[p06:13
sniffbrydenn: wait a second06:13
brydennok06:13
sniffbrydenn: ok got it cracked06:13
brydennok :)06:13
brydennlets hear it06:14
sniffbrydenn: should be able to install:    linux-image-2.6.12-10-68606:14
sniffthis is the one you're after06:14
brydennhold up06:14
brydennin adept it says Candidate Version 2.6.12.16.106:14
brydennoh oh06:15
brydennthats the package i need to install06:15
brydenni see what you're saying06:15
brydennnot linux-686 right06:15
sniffyeah right06:15
sniffthe kernel image06:15
brydennk 1 sec06:15
HobbseePsi-Jack: indeed i do not, i use thunderbird with enigmail, but i've seen a bugreport for it06:15
sniffyou'll need to restart the comp after though06:15
Psi-JackHobbsee: Bug report for kmail? What kind?06:15
Hobbseeand with openpgp06:16
sniffPsi-Jack: that it's a piece of shite recently?06:16
Hobbseedunno, didnt really look - it's on malone, assigned to kubuntu-bugs06:16
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brydennhey sniff : it says i have linux-image for 386 installed already though06:17
sniffmmm06:17
Psi-JackHobbsee: I see.. Hmm06:17
sniffbrydenn: there maybe one already installed06:17
brydennwell maybe this will help my problem06:17
sniffbrydenn: but maybe you can opt to install a newer version06:17
hatake_kakashibrydenn: you have it installed but you may not be on that version06:17
brydennhow do i tell what kernel version i'm running?06:17
hatake_kakashicat /proc/version06:17
sniffbrydenn: good question?06:17
hatake_kakashierr uname -r can do it as well06:18
sniffi'm on 12-1006:18
brydennLinux version 2.6.12-10-386 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 Mon Jan 16 17:18:08 UTC 200606:18
sniffbrydenn: that's the latest i think anyway06:18
brydennhmmm06:18
brydennthen that makes me wonder06:18
brydenni was trying to install a program06:18
sniffbrydenn: what's your pron06:18
sniffprob06:18
brydennand it said it wouldnt work cuz i didnt have an updated kernel06:18
hatake_kakashibrydenn: which program and what kernel version does it require?06:19
brydennSelecting previously deselected package truecrypt.06:19
HobbseePsi-Jack: have a look, and if you cant find it, i'll go look06:19
brydenn(Reading database ... 104053 files and directories currently installed.)06:19
brydennUnpacking truecrypt (from truecrypt_4.1-0_i386.deb) ...06:19
brydennError: Linux kernel version 2.6.12-9-386 required.06:19
brydenndpkg: error processing truecrypt_4.1-0_i386.deb (--install):06:19
brydenn subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 106:19
brydennErrors were encountered while processing:06:19
brydenn truecrypt_4.1-0_i386.deb06:19
brydennoops sorry06:19
Psi-JackHobbsee: Reported on bugs.kde.org, or where?06:19
sniffbrydenn: it want's the older kernel06:19
hatake_kakashi!tell brydenn about pastebin06:19
Hobbsee!malone06:19
brydennoh... i guess i have a newer version than it can recognize?06:19
Hobbsee!launchpad06:20
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee06:20
hatake_kakashibrydenn: yes06:20
Hobbseegrrr06:20
sniffwhat progtam are you trying to install from source?06:20
HobbseePsi-Jack: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs06:20
brydenni know about paste bin hatake_kakashi .. thats why i said ooops hehe sorry06:20
hatake_kakashisniff: what brydenn said above with that large paste06:20
hatake_kakashibrydenn: just in case06:20
sniffah yeah06:20
brydennyah i was trying to install TrueCrypt06:20
sniffthere was so much crap i didn't even read it all06:20
sniffi think pkgsrc is your best bet06:21
brydenndownload the source?06:21
hatake_kakashibrydenn: try getting the source package version of it and get build-essential, build it yourself from there and then install it06:21
Hobbseemalone 3121206:21
Hobbsee!malone 3121206:21
brydenni have build-essential already06:21
ubotuMalone: Bug #31212 in kdepim kmail (Ubuntu): Kmail can no longer get GPG key data from its backend.06:21
HobbseePsi-Jack: ^06:21
brydennk i'll try that guys06:21
sniffbrydenn:  no use PKGSRC  the package manager for netbsd06:21
brydennthanks for you help06:21
sniffalright06:21
Psi-JackHobbsee: Ahh. Unrelated.06:21
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/3121206:22
Hobbseeah, ok06:22
Hobbseethere were more06:22
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HobbseePsi-Jack: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bugs06:23
tendo_can anyone tell me what how to see what sound driver is running the theme sounds for kde.  because thats the only thing that has sound, xmss vlc etc will not output sound06:23
hatake_kakashibrydenn: fyi linux-686 is slightly better than 386 because its more optimised for your computer specs to certain aspect06:24
hatake_kakashitendo_: point them to ALSA06:24
tendo_thats what they're set to in xmss06:24
hatake_kakashitendo_: or try OSS06:25
tendo_oh wow06:25
tendo_oSS works06:25
tendo_isnt ASLA way more hot tho06:25
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hatake_kakashiALSA doesn't seem to support certain sound cards06:26
Psi-JackYep06:26
Psi-Jackgpgme_op_decrypt_verify() returned this error code:  11744052306:26
tendo_ok06:27
brydennhatake_kakashi:  so you think i should install 68606:27
tendo_thanks a lot guys i can finally listen to music :)06:27
hatake_kakashibrydenn: imo, once installed, reboot into it06:27
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Hobbseeno way...06:27
brydennthanks hatake_kakashi06:27
hatake_kakashibrydenn: actually, don't use it06:28
hatake_kakashiI'm sure there is athlon package floating, which is even better heh06:28
hatake_kakashibrydenn: but the best is to configure and compile it yourself06:29
_sniffPsi-Jack: any news from kde?06:29
brydennhehe well i'm using a Sempron 2700+06:29
brydennwould athlon be better?06:29
hatake_kakashibrydenn: because you are on AMD type chipset, it has support for 386 compiled applications, its better to get ones that are more tailored to yours06:30
tendo_i cant code like you guys but here some free music i wrote http://deftek.net/tendo-swedish_museum_of_modern_robots/ thanks for helping me :)06:30
brydennyah06:31
Psi-Jack_sniff: LOL No06:31
hatake_kakashitendo_: np, I'll note that down06:31
_sniffPsi-Jack: :(06:31
Psi-Jack_sniff: It is a reported bug, however.06:31
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hatake_kakashibrydenn: and iirc, I may have made a big mistake if I recommended you to get linux-686 because you are on AMD, and it may not support it.. as in the kernel06:31
hatake_kakashiI wonder if k7 is more appropriate.06:32
hatake_kakashi!k706:32
ubotuhatake_kakashi: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:32
hatake_kakashi!google k706:33
ubotuhatake_kakashi: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:33
hatake_kakashilol06:33
hatake_kakashiblah.. anyone know if k7 is athlon or something?06:33
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Psi-Jack_sniff: Ahhh.06:34
Psi-JackWhat do you get when you run: eval 'gpg-agent --daemon'06:35
hatake_kakashibrydenn: I got confirmation that k7 is athlon which probably is better06:35
_sniffpsi06:35
_sniffPsi-Jack:  are you sure that email you sent me was encrypted with my key?06:35
brydennok hatake_kakashi06:36
Psi-Jack_sniff: Yep.06:36
_sniffPsi-Jack: GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-r2OTq6/S.gpg-agent:19331:1; export GPG_AGENT_INFO;06:36
Psi-Jack_sniff: Great. :)06:36
Psi-Jack_sniff: mkdir ~/.kde/env and put this into ~/.kde/env/gpg-agent.sh: eval `gpg-agent --daemon`06:41
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jindiazhey anyone know the command line to install myth tv??06:41
Psi-Jack_sniff: Then mkdir ~/.kde/shutdown, and put the following two lines into ~/.kde/shutdown/gpg-agent.sh:06:42
_sniffPsi-Jack: what is the exact thing i must type in the terminal?06:42
bimberijindiaz: 'sudo aptitude install mythtv' (ensure that universe and multiverse repos are enabled)06:43
Psi-Jack#!/bin/sh    then    kill `echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO | cut -d ':' -f 2`06:43
Psi-Jack_sniff: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_KMail_gpg-agent_kde06:43
jindiazahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ic, i used the wrong thing06:44
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jindiazforgot aptitude06:44
jindiazthank yu06:44
bimberijindiaz: np :)  (you can use apt-get too, i prefer aptitude though)06:45
_sniffPsi-Jack: so my gpg-agent shutdown shoud look like:06:46
_sniff#!/bin/sh06:46
_sniffkill `echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO | cut -d ':' -f 2`06:46
_sniff?06:46
Psi-Jack_sniff: Basically , according to that gentoo wiki.06:47
_sniffso i assume you didn't try it ;)06:47
Psi-JackI'm about it.06:47
Psi-Jackto06:47
_sniffwell i must say i'm loving kde3.506:47
Psi-JackGotta restart KDE in a sec.06:47
jindiazyah thats the thing, apt-get didnt work06:47
_sniffok i'll wait for you,    you can be my crash-dummy!06:47
Psi-Jack_sniff: But, I did actually manually export that GPG_AGENT_INFO, and run kmail, and it worked fine to decrypt your mail.06:47
_sniffwhat did you do?06:48
Psi-JackI started tge gpg-agent using that eval `gpg-agent --daemon`, and manually exported the return.06:48
Psi-JackAnyway. BRB06:49
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Psi-Jack_sniff: Works like a charm. ;)06:53
Psi-JackIt's not /actually/ a kmail bug. It's just that it depends on the gpg-agent.06:54
_sniffso i should what it says in gentoo?06:54
Psi-Jack_sniff: Yeah., for the kde specific stuff. ;)06:55
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Psi-Jack_sniff: I'll be adding this to my little Wiki soon. ;)06:58
_sniffthat's good i'm going to try now07:01
_sniffjust i just hit ctrl+alt+bkspc?07:01
Psi-JackWell, you should properly end your kde session. :p07:02
_sniffok then07:02
_sniffbrb - i hope107:02
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sniffPsi-Jack: i lost the encrypted mail you sent me, could you please resend07:06
Psi-Jacksniff: 10 407:06
Psi-Jacksniff: BTW, do you have pinentry installed? :)07:07
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Psi-JackSent.07:08
Psi-JackLOL. That's an interesting fortune cookie. :)O07:09
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sniffPsi-Jack: do i need it?07:11
hokatichenciIs there some tweak guide for kubuntu? I just installed it for the first time (never used debian/ubuntu etc) and all in all the system seems kind of weird07:11
Psi-Jacksniff: pinentry-qt provides a nice Qt-based GUI popup for the passphrase.07:11
sniffbut07:11
sniffum07:12
t3nd0what if volume control isnt working in xmms with OSS Driver07:12
hatake_kakashihokatichenci: its on the wiki somewhere07:12
sniffPsi-Jack: when i encrypt it gives me a passphrase box07:12
t3nd0also if a system event sound happens it kills the music07:12
hatake_kakashi!tweak07:12
ubotuhatake_kakashi: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:12
hokatichencithanks07:12
hatake_kakashi!tweaking07:12
ubotuhatake_kakashi: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:12
hatake_kakashigrr07:12
sniffheheh no face07:12
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Psi-JackMan, I can't believe people sometimes.07:35
Psi-JackAbout Mozilla Firefox 1.5 not being in .deb format just yet, and here I am, able to run it pretty easily without it. heh07:36
HobbseePsi-Jack: there are many reasons for it, all of which are documented in the backports forum on ubuntuforums07:39
Psi-JackHobbsee: I understand that. That's why I revert to using the Mozilla-provided tarball, and dropping it to /opt/firefox. ;)07:40
Hobbseeyep07:40
Psi-JackBut, all those people are complaining about it not being in a .deb package. :)07:40
Psi-JackLike it's the frackin end of the world, mind you.07:41
Hobbseetrue07:41
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Psi-Jackin fact, I'm about to make it so I can run firefox-1.5, from /usr/bin, so I have /no/ compatability issues for when there does become a firefox 1.5 package. :)07:45
Psi-JackBut, I have to hack the /opt/firefox/firefox script itself. LOL07:45
JasonFhere's my question07:47
JasonFhow the HECK do you run kde07:47
JasonFand firefox07:47
JasonFit's *ugly as sin*07:47
Psi-JackEasy.07:47
JasonFsomeone should write some QT frontend for firefux07:47
Psi-JackI hit WIN+R, and type in firefox.07:48
crimsunJasonF: do you have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed?07:48
JasonFer07:49
JasonFI don't know07:49
crimsun(you should?)07:49
JasonFwhich probably means I don't07:49
Psi-JackHmm07:49
crimsunit's listed as an rdep for kubuntu-desktop07:49
Psi-JackIs there a way to get VLC to use 4.1 channel output instead of just 2 channel?07:49
crimsunrumour has it that you can configure gtk settings in the kde control center or whatnot07:49
JasonFcrimsun: than it is installed07:49
crimsunPsi-Jack: set it in the audio->alsa preferences07:49
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Psi-Jackcrimsun: I didn't see channel settings..07:50
crimsunI don't have vlc installed atm due to severe free space limitations07:51
Psi-JackI'm just curious. Because I used to use VLC on Windows all the time..07:51
Psi-JackAnd it seems to actually perform quite decently under Linux, under Kubuntu. It didn't work this good even under Gentoo. heh07:52
Psi-JackI've tried alsa devices hw:0,0, hw:0,2, and hw:0,307:54
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hokaMaybe I'm cracked out, but I can't find synaptics anywhere08:01
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Psi-JackYou mean, synaptic?08:02
karatyeah08:02
brexelkynaptic08:02
Psi-Jackapt-get install synaptic08:02
brexelor adept08:02
T3hWiz0rdbah! damn linux! when all else fails! JACK IN THE BOX08:03
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Hobbsee!tell kkathman about repos08:06
karatI have to admit, kubuntu is a little weird.08:07
T3hWiz0rdwell, it reflects its users at least :-P08:07
karatI'm looking forward to not using these GUI's08:07
T3hWiz0rdwhat you using?08:08
karatadept?08:08
karatI guess?08:08
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_tribiani_?08:58
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divansantana?09:05
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weedarMy PC froze just now, while I was surfing the web, then after reboot it froze just as KDE was done loading, then the two reboots after that resulted in a black screen at the point where login to KDE should occur. What do you suggest I do?09:20
Hobbseectrl+alt+f1, login, startx?09:23
weedarThe problem isn't that KDE doesn't start, but that it freezes my computer09:25
Hobbseehmmm09:25
Hobbseenot sure09:25
weedarOf course, it didn't this time I booted, but I'd lke to know why so I can prevent it from doing it in the future09:25
Hobbseeso startx worked?09:26
weedarno, KDE starts automagically at boot09:27
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ubuntu!w32codecs09:32
ubotu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install09:32
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Tonio_hi09:46
sniffPsi-Jack: are you around?09:54
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ita_hi all ...09:56
ita_is there a reason why i cant find mplayer with adept ?! is there no official deb package for it ?!09:57
_mindspinafaik no09:57
weedarmplayer is apt-gettable09:58
_mindspintry universe/miltiverse09:58
_mindspinmultiverse09:58
_mindspin!mplayer09:58
ubotuI heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106109:58
weedarit's in multiverse09:58
ita_ah isee thank you a lot09:59
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tdohello10:01
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balanite86Hi there!10:10
ita_if i may mention this .. im still confused with those "codewords" (components) with the repositories10:12
ita_i see - enabling/disabling repos allows packages to be found or not10:12
ita_but this "add multiverse" here and stuff confuses me :>10:13
ita_anyways .. did the trick - mplayer appearsin adept now ..10:13
balanite86does someone of you use Kplayer in kubuntu (i'm italian,sorry for my bad english)10:14
balanite86?10:14
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_mindspinita: theres a file /etc/etc/apt/sources.list10:18
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_mindspinwhere is defined which reositorys will be searched by apt-get10:19
_mindspinrepositories i mean10:19
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_mindspinadept or kynaptic  use thise files when updating/upgrading10:20
ita_ah i see .. its the file im working on when chosing "manage repos" in adept10:20
ita_thank you10:20
ita_:q10:20
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_mindspinin adept is a configure trepositories section where you can edit that file10:20
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sniffPsi-Jack: ?10:27
ita_btw is there a keyboard shortcut like windows-m (or n?!) on win to minimize all windows on desktop `!10:31
ita_?!10:31
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Hystyboo!10:31
ita_eeeek!10:31
Hystyquestion, where does kde stores the menu entries?10:32
Hystyi installed kubuntu-desktop after installing the basic ubuntu and noticed it also imported the gnome menu entries as well10:33
Hystynow I want to remove some menu entries from the kde panel and for it not to affect those in gnome10:33
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hatake_kakashiHysty: lol, that's exactly the same problem I have after getting kubuntu-desktop. There is another funny thing about it too, if you check with synaptic, you can see the kubuntu-desktop shows up as not installed.10:39
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Hystyhatake_kakashi, really? wierd10:42
Hystyhatake_kakashi, i just want to make sure that I dont delete the gnome entry if I get rid of the kde one10:42
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hatake_kakashiHysty: that I don't have a clue about heh10:44
Hystyoh well, if I figure it out, i'll let you know10:44
Hystyoff to windows now10:44
viviersfhehe @ hatake_kakashi10:46
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viviersfkonichiwa :)10:46
hatake_kakashiviviersf: konnichiwa10:46
viviersfhehe10:46
viviersfto much naruto is bad for you10:48
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Cyberwal83heya10:50
Cyberwal83when I triy to mount my ntfs drives automatically with:10:51
Cyberwal83/dev/hda1/windows/cntfsnls=utf8,umask=02220010:51
Cyberwal83/dev/hda5/windows/dntfsnls=utf8,umask=02220010:51
Cyberwal83I get an error that says onlyroot can do that..10:51
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_mindspintry sudo mount10:52
Cyberwal83yeah that works10:52
Cyberwal83but I want it automagically ;)10:52
_mindspinedit your fstab10:52
Cyberwal83I did10:52
Cyberwal83entered these two lines in fstab10:52
hatake_kakashiCyberwal83: why would you wnat to make it writeable?10:52
Cyberwal83 uh is it writeable?10:53
Cyberwal83I coped that from a site that said it's read-only10:53
Cyberwal83copied10:53
hatake_kakashiaccording to those numbers I assume it is10:53
hatake_kakashi4 = read 2 = write 1 = executable10:53
Cyberwal83hrm10:53
hatake_kakashithat's octal numbers for chmod10:53
hatake_kakashiI recalled I set mine to umask=000010:54
hatake_kakashiI think10:54
hatake_kakashilol viviersf10:54
_mindspinro will also do10:54
viviersf:)10:55
viviersfi havnt watched naruto in months10:55
hatake_kakashiviviersf: iie, sono anime wa omoshiroi dakara10:55
hatake_kakashiore mo10:55
hatake_kakashi-_-10:55
viviersferm dude10:55
viviersfi cant speak japanese10:55
hatake_kakashinani?10:55
hatake_kakashilol10:55
viviersfi only know some words10:55
viviersfbaka ;)10:55
hatake_kakashionly baka? lol10:56
viviersfand10:56
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Alexi5hello10:56
viviersfkonichiwa, arigato10:56
viviersferm10:56
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hatake_kakashieh basic ones heh10:56
viviersfktsoooooo - ouch or sumthing10:56
viviersfyeah10:56
viviersflike playing guitar more than learning japanese soz10:56
Alexi5is kubuntu similar to ubuntu, and is the only difference is that ubuntu use gnome and kubuntuuses kde10:56
viviersfyeah Alexi510:56
HobbseeAlexi5: correct10:56
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hatake_kakashierr, ouch in Japanese is itte10:57
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viviersfhatake_kakashi, whats dammit ? maby thats what im talking about10:57
Alexi5i think i might get it10:57
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hatake_kakashiviviersf: shimatta10:57
Alexi5fedora is giving me a head ache10:58
viviersfAlexi5, good choice10:58
viviersfhatake_kakashi, you actually japanese or you learned it in the name of anime10:58
viviersf?10:58
hatake_kakashiviviersf: I learnt Japanese for three years in High School, and now I talk to Japanese speakers every so often, along with listening to their music and watching anime10:58
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_chrishello10:59
hatake_kakashihowever, my Japanese language is far from complete10:59
hatake_kakashi_chris: hi11:00
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ita_am i right with the assuption that a apt-get install does nothing "more" but a wget on the package and calls dkpg -i on the package after !?11:01
_chrisohio gozaimasu :)11:01
hatake_kakashiita_: no11:01
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Cyberwal83hrm11:01
hatake_kakashi_chris: ohaiyo ga? ima nan ji?11:02
_chrishaving a problem playing audio/video files, i am not sure how to install necessary files11:02
Cyberwal83I still get the error "Only root can mount /dev/hda1 on /windows/d11:02
Cyberwal83:/11:02
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_chrisamerica jin desu11:02
hatake_kakashilol11:02
melonipoikahi all, i have installed gimp 2.2.10 from deb packages I download manually, and now synaptic is complainign about broken packages and doesn't let me do anything but uninstall many libs, how can I tell synaptic not to uninstall all them?11:02
_chrisactually i don't know much more japanese, took some in high school11:02
hatake_kakashi_chris: I assume you need win32codecs11:03
Cyberwal83uhm what editor should I use to edit fstab?11:03
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hatake_kakashiCyberwal83: any *nix based ones will do11:03
Cyberwal83kate? :o11:03
ita_im a vi(m) only guy for file_editing ... cause its like available on most systems11:03
_chrisi believe so, i downloaded a package from mplayer site, not sure how to put them in the correct location11:04
ita_ok kate rocks on kde no question :>11:04
ita__chris: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats helped me a lot11:04
_chrisi will read that thanks11:05
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hatake_kakashiita_: I love vim, I used to use pico/nano11:05
Alexi5which is best to get if i want up to date software , the cd or dvd11:05
HobbseeAlexi5: grab it from apt-get :P11:05
Hobbseeover the internet11:05
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Hobbseewhy would you use a cd?11:05
_chrisalso another problem, not sure i installed kubuntu correctly. i had XP and trying to dual boot, but not i get 'unmountable boot volume' when booting windows11:06
_chrisi tried to partition it correctly, not sure if i made a mistake there. when i installed suse, it was relatively simple. but i am liking kubuntu alot more.11:07
_chrissorry, not = now11:07
hatake_kakashi_chris: check your menu.lst I presume?11:08
Alexi5can java be installed on kubuntu11:08
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robotgeekAlexi5, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:08
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_christell hatake_kakashi test11:09
hatake_kakashihuh11:10
_chrisyour messages to me are in a different font, wondering if they were private messages or something11:10
_chrisbut i don't understand, what should i check my menu for?11:11
hatake_kakashi_chris: probably grub didn't add the menu entry for xp correctly11:12
Hobbsee_chris: happens when your nick is mentioned11:12
Hobbseeie, see this11:12
Hobbsee_chris: and this11:12
hatake_kakashihmm which IRC client are you using _chris?11:13
_chriskonversation11:14
_chrisahh thanks hobbsee11:14
Hobbseeno problems11:14
ita_omg i cant use my kvirc right11:14
ita_sorry for ctcp flood :/11:14
raphinkita_: I'm using konvi on kde 3.5.1/dapper11:14
raphink:p11:14
Alexi5so everthing that is available to ubuntu is also available to kubuntu?11:15
raphinkAlexi5: yes11:15
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ita_i just clicked on _chris but kvirc questioned whole channel sorry again11:15
hatake_kakashiirssi on ubuntu (with KDE)/breezy.. now on tty :p11:15
raphinkAlexi5: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same OS, with different default settings11:15
_chrissorry11:15
raphinkita_: use /ctcp user version next time11:16
raphinkso you're sure to not do the whole channel ;)11:16
hatake_kakashiand some say its rude to ctcp them without their permission11:16
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tijn_how rude ;)11:17
raphinkhatake_kakashi: yah, some say11:17
Hobbseemore rude to PM without permission, it seems.  ctcp doesnt seem so bad in comparison11:17
raphinkah?11:17
Hobbseewas just a general comment, not aimed at anyone :)11:17
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ita_i think there are even irc servers that would have kicked me for doing 146 ctcp version in a short time .)11:18
hatake_kakashiHobbsee: yeah I agree PM without permission is more rude however some still get annoyed at simple ctcp11:18
Cyberwal83wee it worked, what a stupid error :P11:18
hatake_kakashiits called excess flood, ita11:18
Hobbseetrue11:19
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ita_package of the day : mplayer-mozilla11:20
ita_listening to my favourite radio .. wooohooo11:20
_chrisahh finally adding universe repository11:22
_chrisinstalling firefox 1.5 can't be done with package manager, can it?11:23
robotgeek_chris, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:23
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Alexi5hello11:31
Alexi5does the ubuntu documentation also apply to kubuntu11:32
Hobbseemostly11:33
Hobbseereplace gksudo with kdesu, and gedit with kwrite, and it does11:33
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Cyberwal83hm I set opera as standard browser and now everytime I click a link I get a second opera tab for about 10 seconds in my app-list. is this normal?11:37
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DaveQBso whats the deal with Kubuntu removing the Window menu from Konqueror ??11:39
DaveQBmore specifically, how does one get it back ??11:39
tijn_mmh i want to bring down the secondary win2k3 server, and install linux on it... how do i find out whats the primary domain controller? OT, i know ;)11:43
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manolohi11:50
robotgeekhi manolo11:50
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tomplasthi guys11:56
robotgeekhi11:56
tomplasti have a Intel D865PERL motherboard and I can't get my firewire working (I think)11:56
robotgeektomplast: can you paste the output of the command "lsmod" to the pastebin ?11:57
tomplastoki, just a moment11:57
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Cyberwal83hrm11:58
tomplastrobotgeek: http://pastebin.com/55926511:58
Cyberwal83sound works in Kubuntu but not in wine..11:58
tomplastCyberwal83: have you tried to switch between alsa and oss?11:59
tomplastCyberwal83: in winecfg11:59
robotgeektomplast: the firewire modules arent loading11:59
tomplastrobotgeek: isn't ieee1394 the one?11:59
tomplastrobotgeek: ieee1394              299832  3 video1394,ohci1394,raw139412:00
robotgeektomplast: oh yeah, it's that one. i missed it :)12:00
tomplastrobotgeek: good, i hope :/12:00
Cyberwal83tomplast: when I look it up in winecfg, it has the OSS driver selected. there also is a wave out device in the oss list, unlike in the alsa list12:00
Cyberwal83tomplast: but kmixer says "supported: oss&alsa, used: alsa"12:00
robotgeektomplast: hmm, i don't know much about firewire, maybe look in the dmesg logs for errors?12:00
tomplastCyberwal83: can you select alsa in winecfg?12:00
tid-wavehello! adept crashes when I click "Fetch updates"12:00
tomplasttid-wave: are you running dapper?12:01
tid-waveyes12:01
tid-waveflight dapper 312:01
tid-wave(sorry for not mentioning that)12:01
tomplastdapper drake has still some nasty bugs12:01
tomplasthave you tried to update?12:01
tomplastfrom console?12:01
tid-wavei'll update now :D12:01
tomplastdo so :)12:01
Cyberwal83tomplast: yeah I can, doesn't work though. I also get a "missing libjack.so"-error when selecting the "audio" tab12:02
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tomplastguess what people :P12:03
tomplastgood old buggy dapper ;)12:03
tomplastrobotgeek: do you know anyone who can help me?12:04
tid-wavehow do I update EVERYTHING ? (apt-get update doesn't update amarok)12:04
robotgeektomplast: not sure, maybe some firewire gurus in #ubuntu?12:05
tomplasttid-wave: does it holds it back? which version is your amarok now?12:05
tomplastrobotgeek: thank you. i will check  it out :)12:05
tid-waveThe following packages have unmet dependencies.12:05
tid-wave  amarok-gstreamer: Depends: amarok (= 2:1.3.7-0ubuntu4) but 2:1.3.8-0ubuntu3 is to be installed12:05
koshsudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade12:05
Cyberwal83and when I select alsa, I get an "could not create sound buffer" error when starting stuff in wine, but not with oss.. I just don't get sound :p12:06
tid-waveThe following packages have been kept back12:06
tid-wave  amarok12:06
tid-wave:)12:06
tomplastCyberwal83: too bad. sorry that i cant help you. did it work in cedega you said?12:07
tomplasttid-wave: which version of amarok do you have now?12:07
tid-wave1.3.712:07
Cyberwal83haven't tried cedega yet, toying around with wine..12:08
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tomplastCyberwal83: oki12:09
Cyberwal83uh cedega isn't free :P12:09
Cyberwal83is there a demo?12:09
tomplasttid-wave: have you tried to add the 1.4 beta repositories?12:09
tomplastit is12:09
tomplastcedegacvs :P12:10
Cyberwal83found it12:10
tomplastbut i pay for mine :P12:10
Cyberwal83tomplast: ?12:10
tid-wavetomplast: no, what's the address ?12:10
tomplasttid-wave: kubuntu or ubuntu?12:10
tid-wavekubuntu12:10
tomplasttid-wave: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta1.php12:11
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tid-wavecool12:14
tid-wave:D12:14
tomplasttid-wave: yeah its quite good :)12:15
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tid-waveI like kubuntu12:16
ita_i like amarok a lot .. but its a stress-test to my cpu :)12:16
tid-waveI just hope KDE will be come more integrated with the OS12:16
tomplasti dont understand why people even uses gnome12:16
tid-waves/be come/ become12:16
tid-wavewell gnome is nice12:17
tid-wavebtw is it possible to have the same placement of the bars ?12:17
_chrisi downloaded codecs off the mplayer site, now i just copy these to usr/lib/w32codecs? i am having problems with this step12:17
tid-wavewith taskbar & pager below12:17
tid-waveand launchers & notification area on top ?12:17
tomplast_chris: use the debian package instead12:17
robotgeek!w32codecs12:18
ubotumethinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:18
_christomplast: sounds good, what is it called?12:18
tomplast_chris: wait i will give you a link12:18
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tomplast_chris: the link i used to use is down. i will try to look for a mirror12:20
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tid-wavetomplast: do you know if it's possible to split kpanel in two like in Gnome ? (on top and bottom)12:21
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tid-waveit should be possible .. at least with two panels12:21
tomplasttid-wave: i don't really know :/. but everything should be possible ;)12:21
tid-wavecan i launch two panels ?12:22
_chrisi tried using the link in ubotu's message.(sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) i get this error: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process12:22
tomplast_chris: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb12:22
tomplast_chris: there is a link anyway12:22
_chrisheh thanks12:23
bert_Use Automatix12:23
tomplastbert_: never use automatix!12:23
Cyberwal83why=12:23
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tomplasti hate it!12:23
robotgeek!automatix12:23
ubotuautomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.12:23
bert_I have and neve had any problems12:23
tomplastcan you uninstall packages?12:24
robotgeekbert_: doesn't mean that it is safe12:24
tomplasti dont like having a weird program installing stuff on my computer12:24
bert_Don't want yo uninstall Opera the above codes and firefox12:24
tomplastpackages are  easy to maintain12:24
tomplastinstall and uninstall12:24
tomplast?12:24
tomplasti can find codecs12:25
tomplastopera12:25
tomplastand firefox normaly12:25
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tomplastfirefox is in the resotories12:25
tomplastrepositories12:25
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tomplastopera has a package file on their website ( though depency problems in dapper)12:25
robotgeek!opera12:26
ubotuwell, opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser12:26
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tomplasthey i allready said that ubotu :p12:26
robotgeektomplast: ubotu is a bot12:27
tomplastoops :xp:12:27
tomplasti didnt know :$12:27
tomplasthe doesnt sound like one :P12:27
Daddy_DHow come when I install firefox, it appears to be version 1.0.7?12:27
tomplastubotu: how does it feels to be a bot?12:27
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tomplast12:27
Daddy_DI really want to get 1.5 or even the new 1.612:27
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kasimhi, i'm just trying to install amd64 with sata-disks? Is breezy or dapper install prepared for that? Any hints?12:28
tomplastDaddy_D: 1.07 is the one used. i guess you could look in warthog for older releases :P12:28
robotgeekDaddy_D, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:29
_christomplast: i ended up using that ftp link. and the other problem i had was having adept open, thanks for your help.12:29
tomplast_chris: yw12:30
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Daddy_Doh christ, they were right when they told me I will never get bored with Linux.12:32
Daddy_Devery single thing I want is like a little adventure.12:32
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robotgeekfreeflying-ibook: what is ebuntu?12:33
tomplastDaddy_D: do you play a lot games in linux? any favorites?12:33
Daddy_DI just started with linux couple of days ago. I heard there it's possible to install many of the new ones, which run even better like Enemy Territory, Unreal xxxx, Quake, etc etc12:34
Daddy_DWhy do you ask?12:34
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tomplastjust wonder :)12:34
tomplastenemy territory and americas army is quite nice :)12:35
tomplastand best of all, free ^^12:35
Daddy_DI want to but to be honest I dont even know how to get applications for Kubuntu yet. It's so annoying.12:35
tomplast:)12:35
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tomplaststart with adept12:35
tomplastfrom where you can install game and other apps12:35
Daddy_DBut adept dosent list the following: VideoLan player, Beep Media Player, Firefox 1.5, and on and on12:36
tomplastno12:36
tomplastbut firefox 1.7 right?12:36
Daddy_DI figured its better to actually use in command line apt-get12:36
Daddy_Dyeah 1.0.712:36
tomplastyes12:36
tomplastif you dont know so much yet its better to stick what you get :)12:37
tomplast1.07 :)12:37
tomplastor try opera12:37
tomplastits the fastest browser efter known to man :)12:37
tomplastand its good that you can resume surfing after a crash (it remembers which pages you were surfing)12:37
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tomplastto be able to access videolan you need to add an extra repository12:38
Daddy_DAnd one more thing. Every time I try to edit sources.list or plug my flash drive it ask me to have root permissions. I never regret for enabling the root account in my GUI login12:38
Daddy_Dmmm, how do I do that?12:38
tomplastits good that rootlogin it disabled by default12:38
tomplastwait12:38
tomplasti will give you some info12:38
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Daddy_Dthanks.12:38
Daddy_DI tried Videolan player website but it dosent give me clue what to do.12:39
_christrying to install w32codecs, but having problems because i run amd64 processor, anyone have experience handling this?12:39
Daddy_DIt would have been easier if I could download something and start from there.12:39
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tomplastyou have kubuntu breezy Daddy_D?12:39
Daddy_Dyes12:39
tomplasthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6805612:40
tomplastlook at this12:40
tomplastit will work12:40
tomplastshould at least ;)12:40
tomplasti wanna be of more help but i really need to do some things :/12:40
_diogogreetings!12:40
tomplastso take care Daddy_D12:40
tomplastI hope that everything will work out for you :)12:41
_diogoI was wondering where do the (k)ubuntu release names come from...12:41
Daddy_Daaaaah, so the only way to edit is use gedit or vi instead of Kate under GUI12:41
Daddy_Dso stupid12:41
_diogoAny clues?12:41
tomplastno12:41
tomplastreplace gedit  with vi12:41
tomplastor kate12:41
_diogoI couldn't find the reason for them anywhere...12:41
tomplastits easier12:41
Snake|SleeeeeeepWhat do you guys need?12:41
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Daddy_Dif I try Kate every time it tells me it I do not have permission to write to that file12:41
tomplastdo you use sudo in front of it?12:41
Daddy_Dits ok if I log in as a root12:41
Snake__NO12:42
Snake__DO NOT USE SUDO WITH GUI APPS12:42
tomplastwhy?12:42
tomplastHE SHOULD12:42
Snake__It's know to fux permissions12:42
Daddy_DI dont use sudo at all12:42
tomplastif he dont know vi12:42
tomplastdo you know VI Daddy_D?12:42
Snake__tomplast: No dude, GUI should be using kdesu12:42
tomplastoki Snake_12:42
Snake__To use root on GUI programs, use kdesu12:42
tomplastif you say so :)12:42
tomplastthen please take over Snake__ ;)12:42
Daddy_DI have Linux in a Nutshell so that has some info on the VI command12:42
tomplasti got to do some things :P12:42
tomplastthanks for the tips Snake__ ;)12:43
tomplastbye12:43
Daddy_Dbut I will try the guide the guy has written. At least I can watch movies or something. MP3's later.12:43
Snake__rofl12:43
Snake__Daddy_D: what are you trying to do with vi or whatever12:43
Snake__Daddy_D: if you want to use kate, you can. You just type "kdesu kate /path/to/file12:44
Daddy_Dnothing, I was just saying that that guy in the howto install vlc guide is using gedit or he could vi too12:44
Snake__Daddy_D: you could substitute kate with it12:44
Daddy_DBut what I mention is that of I use KATE to do the job under GUI it always tells me I dont have permission to change the file12:44
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Daddy_DI find it easier to use the command line because the GUI is too buggy.12:45
Snake__Daddy_D: type in "kdesu kate /path/to/file" (obviously putting the path to file where it says)12:45
Daddy_Dok I will try12:45
Snake__Well if you want to use VI, your welcome to :)12:45
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bert_Use Krusader, enable root version from menu and edit source file, real easy12:47
Snake__And don't listen to whoever that tomplast guy was, the simple rule is: Launch GUI from console, use kdesu. Launch Command line tools from console, use sudo12:47
Daddy_Dthis is a little bit strange. I typed the following kdesu etc/apt/sources.list   it opened with Kate like you said but the file is empty. And it had some links before lol12:47
Snake__Daddy_D: did you miss kate in your command or just right there12:48
Daddy_Dwhere?12:48
bimberiDaddy_D: also, did you use a leading / (you need to) -     /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
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Snake__Daddy_D: I just did that as well, thats weird, its not that its empty, look on the left side tool bar, it opens 3 files. The top one holds your links12:49
Daddy_DI typed it just as you see it12:49
Snake__Okay, I just did it too, and as I said, it actually opens 3 files (very strange)12:49
Daddy_Dwelcome to my world!12:51
Snake__lol12:52
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Snake__Daddy_D: well like I said, you could use vi if you want, but I just wanted to save your system before it got screwed from sudo12:53
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_chrisi believe i have the codecs in the right location now, but kaffeine will only work with audio and no video12:55
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Crazyhi i am just trying to install kubuntu on a laptop, but unforunately i keep gettin an error, si neone able to help12:56
Daddy_DIm trying it out12:56
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Daddy_Dso instead of sudo I should always use kdesu?12:57
Daddy_Dor su?12:57
Daddy_Dthere are so many now12:57
Snake|OutDaddy_D: Lol no, just remeber this:12:57
koshsudo = commandline   kdesu = gui12:57
Snake|OutGUI = k12:57
Snake|Outugh12:57
Snake|OutBeat me to it :)12:57
Daddy_Dok12:57
Crazythe error is - Your CPU does not support long mode. Try a 32bit distribution - pls if anyone can help me?12:57
Crazyi really want to try kubuntu12:58
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Snake|OutCrazy: what kind of processor12:58
Daddy_DYES!12:58
Daddy_DI ve done it. I think I got vlc12:58
Crazyhp pavilion zv5000 im not very good with computer jargon, wat units is processor measured in12:58
Crazysorry12:58
robotgeekCrazy: the 64 bit stuff only works on certain machines12:59
koshCrazy: it means you are trying to use the 64bit editiong of kubuntu on a 32bit processor12:59
Crazyi just downloaded the first distribution on the downloads page12:59
Crazywhich one should i be downloading12:59
CrazyProcessor: Pentium 4 3.0GHz with hyper-threading technology01:00
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koshCrazy: the same kind of thing would happen if you tried to install windows xp 64 on your machine01:00
koshCrazy use the 32bit version01:00
Crazythankyou01:00
Crazywhich version?01:00
Crazyon the download page01:00
Crazyi386?01:00
bimberii38601:00
Crazythankyou all so much01:01
Crazyi wish i didnt just waste 7 hours lol01:01
Crazy:D01:01
koshhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/01:01
koshjust read that page it shoudl be obvious01:01
_blol!01:01
koshthere are only 3 choices for an install cd, you don't have a mac, and you don't have a 64bit system01:01
koshand the first choice said it was for if you are unsure01:01
Crazyi see01:01
Crazyso power pc is mac?01:02
Crazysorry im such a noob01:02
koshyour problem is not being a newbie01:02
koshyour problem is not reading01:02
Crazylol01:02
Crazytrue01:02
koshto be honest that is not something that I will help with01:03
Crazyi was on different page i was downloading from australia01:03
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koshsomeone else might but I won't01:03
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Crazyi see now01:03
Crazythanks very much01:03
Crazythe australia downloads page doesnt say nething other than wat the file names are called01:03
Crazycya and thankyou soooo much for ur help, catch u l8a :D01:04
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MelsenHrmm01:06
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MelsenIs there anything wrong with using Synaptic in Kubuntu?01:07
robotgeekMelsen: you'll have to install a lot of gnome crud01:07
Daddy_DI wanted to ask, does people really like Ubuntu/Kubuntu? Or is it something they just got sticked with using for no reason?01:08
Melsencrud?01:08
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MelsenI love it Daddy_D - first dist that has made me drop Windows01:08
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koshwhy would people download and install it if they did not like it?01:08
tijn_Daddy_D well01:08
_andy___heya ppl01:08
farousDaddy_D: people normally stick with what they are familiar with01:08
robotgeekMelsen: okay, lots of gnome apps :)01:09
tijn_iam a debian person myself, but i saw Kubuntu and i must say its working nice01:09
farousbut trying some distro i have to admit i just love ubuntu01:09
koshI use a mixture of kubuntu and debian01:09
tijn_so iam still running debian :) only my laptop runs kubuntu01:09
koshhowever I have been using linux for about 10 years now01:09
koshthe only thing I have used windows for in about 10 years now is games01:10
Daddy_Dno, Im just trying to figure it out. Many of my frends dont like the way kubuntu deals with stuff and they find it hard and painfull to help me out. I believe they either use Gentoo or Slackware. I got recommended Kubuntu for beginners.01:10
tijn_1 thing i hate about kubuntu01:10
tijn_i want to be ROOT!01:11
tijn_:D01:11
koshumm that is a good thing to change that one01:11
Daddy_Dexcatly! :P01:11
tijn_ah well.. sude passwd root01:11
tijn_:D01:11
koshyou should not be running as root ever01:11
Daddy_DAlso is it true that I shouldnt go online when Im logged in as root?01:11
Melsenstart a terminal windows, type 'sudo passwd root' and type the password you want.. then you can su to root.. but... it kinda goes against the kubuntu setup. There is nothing you need to do in Kubuntu that you can't do within the set frames01:11
farousone thing i hate /understand ubuntu inherited from debian. Stuboorness with prop soft01:12
_andy___still dunt let ya login on that account tho :(01:12
koshfarous: huh?01:12
farousas a desktop user like others the first thing i do is download the prop codecs01:12
koshfarous: it is a legal issue01:12
farousi had to install gsp-afpl cause the regul gs-eps gave me lots of troubles01:13
koshfarous: none of them want to go to jail to make your life easier01:13
farousnot all of it kosh01:13
MelsenAnyone can recommend a good program to listen to online radio with?01:13
Daddy_Dbut Meslen, thats the problem Im having all the time. Editing anything in GUI is almost impossible unless I modify something while using ROOT01:13
robotgeekMelsen: amarok01:13
koshDaddy_D: kdesu kate01:13
Melsenuse kdesu?01:13
Daddy_Dah o01:13
Daddy_Dok01:13
Daddy_DI should probably get the book for Kubuntu01:14
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Daddy_Dmy original plan was to learn linux by using a book. It should be a lot quicker than trying to teach my self like I did with Windows.01:14
koshDaddy_D: kdesu has been used for about 5-6 years now01:14
Melsenrobotgeek_away: package name for amarok radio plugin?01:14
robotgeek_awayMelsen: none, it just works. see playlist option01:15
Melsenhey wtf01:15
Melsenthats cool01:15
Melsenthanks =)01:15
robotgeek_awaylater01:15
_andy___is there a linux version of msn withh all the features ?01:15
Daddy_DWell fair point but I used kdesu from about an hour ago01:15
koshmsn what?01:15
Melsen_andy___: kopete is awesome01:16
_andy___messanger01:16
koshmsn itself is an internet service, and a webpage01:16
_andy___:-?01:16
Daddy_DKubuntu book and IRC are two things that go very well together.01:16
Daddy_DIs it expensive to buy?01:16
Melsenbuy what?01:16
Daddy_Dthe book01:16
koshno idea, I did not even know there was a kubuntu book01:16
MelsenOh.. no idea01:16
Melsenhavent had use for it01:17
kosh_andy___: sorry no idea on that one, but I doubt that anything supports all of its features, kopete probalby supports many of them01:17
Melsenthis channel is filled with helpful people01:17
Melsenand google works wonders01:17
farous http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto01:17
_andy___kk ty :)01:17
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faroussorry about that wrong chan01:17
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abacsubprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 101:18
_andy___how can i add shortcuts to the kde prog menu ?01:19
Melsenhrmm01:20
MelsenI can't make amarok play anything01:20
Melsenmplayer and kaffeine works fine01:20
_andy___oooo wut u use for downloads on nix ?01:21
Melsenwaddya mean?01:21
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_andy___like what p2p packages can i download + install ?01:24
tijn_kosh if iam configing stuff, i like to be root01:25
koshtijn_: I am sorry but that is a boneheaded idea01:25
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tijn_:)01:26
koshtijn_: the system has built into it the ability to do anything you need as root as needed without doing everything as root01:26
MelsenHow do I make amarok use a different engine than gstreamer?01:26
MelsenOnly gstreamer available in the selection, and I already installed that engine pack through adept01:26
tijn_kosh i know, but i just dont like it01:26
HobbseeMelsen: settings, configure amarok, engine01:26
MelsenOnly gstreamer is showing there01:26
Melsenand that wont play my mp3's for some reason01:26
tijn_maybe if i was running ubuntu on a server01:27
Melseneven though my other players plays them fine01:27
tijn_but normal @home use..01:27
HobbseeMelsen: install amarok-xine01:27
koshMelsen: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine01:27
Hobbseeyou'll need it in dapper anyway01:27
tijn_but all my servers are debian so..01:27
_andy___wut p2p programs is there i can download and install ?01:27
Melsenkosh: I already have that01:27
Melsenstill not selectable01:27
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koshsudo apt-get install libxine1c2 xine-ui01:28
_andy___wuts that ?01:28
Melsen"What" is that01:28
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CarstenPhi! how can i install java 1.5 ?01:29
Melsenkosh: I still cant select Xine inside amarok01:29
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Melsen!ubotu tell CarstenP about java01:29
koshMelsen: very strange, did you restart amarok after you installed that stuff? note that when you close the window amarok does not close sicne it runs in that little quickbar area so you need to right click on it and close it from there01:30
MelsenYes yes.. right clicked the icon in the quickbar and chose quit01:30
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bert_Melsen: you most probably nned to install Mp3 lib file, Amarok plays mp3's for ne OK with the gstreamer engine01:30
Melsenstill only shows 'GStreamer' in the engine.. so I can chose between that and none01:30
Melsenall my mp3 plays fine from the other players I got01:31
Melsenmplayer, xmms and so on01:31
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bert_Only shows gstreamer in mine, but plays OK, install the mp3lib files01:32
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melonipoika#kubuntu-es01:33
Ahmuckcan i build source code in kubuntu ?01:33
melonipoikauy, sorry :D01:33
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Ahmuck can i use kubuntu as a server or is it a user only os ?01:35
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LeeJunFanAhmuck: yes, you can build source if you install a compiler and necessary development tools, normally by installing build-essential01:36
LeeJunFanAhmuck: and I'm using kubuntu on 4 servers, although I did server install on them and no GUI is installed.01:37
Ahmuckwhat does the server install get you from kubuntu ... i am confused, isn't kubuntu all about the gui01:38
Ahmuckso, build-essential includes the tools for building programs from source, ok01:38
LeeJunFanAhmuck: any linux distro has the same basic things, and that's all the server install gives you. The basic system w/o gui and gui apps.01:38
LeeJunFanAhmuck: right, build-essential includes the compiler, but there may also be libs and -dev packages you will have to install to compile some apps which require includes from other packages.01:39
Ahmuckun, understood ... that is what i thought01:39
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Ahmucki assume that adept has server packages listed ?01:40
LeeJunFanAhmuck: I don't think they are listed as such. Server install is just a minimal install set, after you have server install done you have to hand pick the packages based on the type of server you want.01:41
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LeeJunFanAhmuck: ie. for a mailserver you'll want postfix (likely), for web apache, for ftp vsftpd, but those don't all get installed automatically.01:42
Ahmuckfor the mta, exim with horde for web mail, etc.01:42
Ahmuckwhich can be done via adept >01:42
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LeeJunFanright, or if it's a true non-gui install just use apt-get or aptitude from the command line to install packages.01:44
koshall of the debian based dists work the same01:44
kosha server based install is just a minimal install since on a server you don't want uncessary software installed01:44
LeeJunFanAhmuck: if you aren't going to install a GUI on the machine you will still want to install the xserver client stuff, sshd and configure sshd to forward X, then you can install GUI apps on the server and run them from a remote machine over ssh.01:45
LeeJunFanThat is if you plan to run GUI apps on your server from remote. Personally I'd just stick to using apt-get.01:45
koshLeeJunFan: I would not recommend doing that01:45
koshLeeJunFan: I would use the cli for remote work instead of installing more software on a server then is needed01:46
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LeeJunFankosh: I agree. Although I had to get cups up and running on one server and configuring printers in cups is lame with the web interface disabled. So I installed kdeprinter :)01:47
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koshconfigure it and then remove it :)01:50
MelsenHey.. now I can see the xine engine.. I had that 'first time run wizard' thingie in amarok01:51
Melsenthen after that, I went to the configuration.. and then I could see the xine engine.. how odd was that?!??!01:51
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twinoatlhi01:53
twinoatlI found some bug in daily generated ubuntu. Where can I talk about this ?01:53
koshdaily generated?01:54
Melsenthe #ubuntu channel?01:54
LeeJunFanI think it's time I look at horde/imp, been using squirrelmail for years.01:54
twinoatlkosh: you can download daily generated ubuntu/kubuntu isos01:55
twinoatlkosh: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/01:55
twinoatlMelsen: ok, I will try01:55
LeeJunFantwinoatl: first do your updates and make sure it's not already fixed, then file a bug report. Check the wiki or faq on ubuntu.com01:56
Cyberwal83uhm.. I wanna set up my mx1000's buttons and have to edit xorg.conf, but where is that file <.<01:57
twinoatlLeeJunFan: it is in the first menu when booting the cd01:57
LeeJunFantwinoatl: ah, I'd take it to the devel mailing list then.01:57
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twinoatlLeeJunFan: no report to launchpad then ?01:58
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LeeJunFantwinoatl: Probably that too.02:00
twinoatlLeeJunFan: ok02:00
twinoatlLeeJunFan: thanks02:00
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Cyberwal83hey, I tried that evdev method of configuring my mx1000.. doesn't work02:09
Cyberwal83any other method, or do I have to configure the buttons now somewhere?02:09
vitek!w32codecs02:09
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:09
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vitek!lame02:17
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vitek02:17
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ubijtsaCyberwal83: xorg.conf is in /etc/X1102:18
vitek!mjpegtools02:19
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vitek02:19
Kamping_Kaisertry !info02:20
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_davidhello, do you know what lines should be in /etc/apt/sources.list? I have this for instance: deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted  but it gives errors on sudo apt-get update02:22
Kamping_Kaiser_david: what errors?02:22
_davidlike this: bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.02:22
_davidand Failed to fetch http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) that02:23
Kamping_Kaiser_david: leave it a few minutes and then try again02:23
Kamping_Kaisera few minutes=2002:23
Kamping_Kaiserif it still doesnt work, try taking off the nl bit02:23
_davidok, thanks02:23
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stjepanwhats ubuntu's kde dir? (in slackware it is /opt/kde)02:28
_davidI thin it's just /usr02:29
_davidKamping_Kaiser: is it normal that all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list are commented afrer a install?02:30
Kamping_Kaiser_david: yes, only the cd is uncommented02:31
stjepanI have got a "problem".02:31
stjepanI like mac osx style desktop, but it isnt very functional and usable02:31
stjepanwindows like desktop isnt very functional too02:32
stjepanwhat desktop style do you prefer?02:32
_davidKamping_Kaiser: ok02:32
Kamping_Kaiserstjepan: 'style'? like bar at top or bottom? or theme?02:32
stjepanKamping_Kaiser: everything02:33
stjepanespecialy panel s02:33
Kamping_Kaiserstjepan: i like gnomes layout *in general*02:34
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stjepanwindows like desktop (bottom taskbar) is too small and it isnt possible to put some applets there02:34
stjepanKamping_Kaiser: may I see your desktop pls?02:34
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Kamping_Kaiserstjepan: it's an almost plain ubuntu setup, just with more stuff in the pannels02:35
stjepanheh02:35
stjepanKamping_Kaiser: I want a desktop environment which is as easy to use as windows :)02:36
stjepanbut none of them are02:36
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koshno system is as easy to use as the one you already know02:36
tid-wavedouble clicking "System Services" in System Settings will crash System Services ...02:36
koshtid-wave: single clicking won't02:37
tid-waveand if I click administrator mode the widget inside is empty02:37
tid-waveI cannot set anything02:37
tid-waveit's just a red border and nothing inside02:37
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_davidKamping_Kaiser: so does that mean that someone who doesn't know how to edit that file can't get security updates etc?02:38
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tid-wavekosh: i know that, but that's still bad behaviour (crash)02:38
Kamping_Kaiser_david: you can turn on repositories using synpatic and i think (in kde) adept02:38
cionhey all how do I remove (forced) a broken language pack?02:39
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Kamping_Kaisercion: run `sudo apt-get -f install` to let ubuntu try and fix itself02:39
Kamping_Kaiserhi jpatrick02:39
jpatrickhello Kamping_Kaiser02:39
cionok Ill try02:40
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Kamping_Kaiser:)02:40
stjepanwhat do you think of http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/23535-1.jpg02:40
koshhttp://aesaeion.com/mydesk  that is my current desktop02:40
_davidKamping_Kaiser: I removed the nl. bit but still errors on sudo apt-get update02:41
_daviddo you know what that could be?02:41
Kamping_Kaiser_david: can you pastebin the lot of them, and your sources.list file?02:41
_davidok 1 moment02:41
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koshso what do you think of my desktop?02:43
_davidKamping_Kaiser: here's the url: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aqR17C26.html02:43
Kamping_Kaiserok.02:44
_davidnote that I can ping archive.ubuntu.com02:44
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_davidA long time ago I had installed debian and had the same problem02:45
Kamping_Kaiserstrange. your sources list is fine02:45
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Kamping_Kaiser_david: you sure your instal lfinsihed ok? can you run `sudo apt-get -f install ` to make sure02:47
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_davidKamping_Kaiser: it gives these erors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/yrUO0A44.html02:48
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_davidKamping_Kaiser: during the install it hanged like half an hour at testing network repository and networ security repository02:49
Kamping_Kaiser5 minutes is ok. half an hour is not...02:49
treyh0wtf is http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/23535-1.jpg02:49
treyh0i can't tell if that's linux or os x02:50
treyh0heh02:50
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:50
koshI guess that nobody likes my desktop ;)02:50
_davidKamping_Kaiser: o, so I should reinstall?02:50
Kamping_Kaiser_david: it's strange that your getting the same error with both.02:50
Kamping_Kaiserit may be a gzip issue, but don't quote me (I'm afraid)02:51
_davidyeah, and also that I had the same problem with debian like 2 years ago, I moved on to another distro back then02:51
treyh0is there a kubuntu amd64 channel or something02:51
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_davidKamping_Kaiser: anyway, thanks for your help :)02:52
Kamping_Kaiser_david: sorry about that :/02:53
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_ganymedhallo02:56
Kamping_Kaiserhi02:57
jpatrickhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings/16-02-0602:57
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_davidKamping_Kaiser: My provider has some kind of filter (solcon) to block porn etc, could it be that it filters those mirrors (by mistake) and that thats also why debian dind't wor a long time ago?03:00
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Kamping_Kaiser_david: that's quite possible, if they are blocking the filetypes Debian is trying to transfer. i don't know the softwrae at all though03:00
_davidI will google around to see if more people have it, afaik they only blokc url/ip adresses03:01
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treyh0why does kubuntu use lipstick as the default theme?03:04
treyh0its ugly :/03:04
jpatrickto make it look different (visually)03:04
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treyh0i like the default configuration aside from that though03:05
treyh0its pretty neat03:05
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treyh0i can install it on a computer for someone and not have to spend 10 years configuring it03:06
_davidI dont think it's ugly but I prefer plastik03:06
cionhey all how come firefox looks so bad on KDE?03:06
jpatrickcion: because it's a gtk app03:06
_davidcion it's written in another toolkit, gtk and not in qt, so it looks different, you can mae it look like a kde app thought03:06
ciondavid: how?03:06
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_davidthere a program for it, gtkqt-engine or somethijhg like that, but I dont know what it is called on kubuntu03:07
cionit's a package u mean?03:07
_davidit's a program, but there probalby is a kubuntu package for, yes03:08
treyh0the package you want is called  gtk2-engines-gtk-qt03:08
treyh0you can then set it up in the kde control panel under appearance03:09
treyh0to "use the same style/font as KDE"03:09
treyh0i thought that was installed by default on kde03:09
treyh0i mean03:09
treyh0kubuntu03:09
cionit is03:09
cioni'm just noob on linux world ;)03:09
treyh0:)03:10
cionkde is a lil bit crashy than gnome why?03:10
cionI'm having problems that I didn't had on Gnome03:10
treyh0kde is more stable than gnome for me03:10
treyh0cept for amarok03:10
treyh0that thing crashes more than windows9803:10
cionI think it's more elastic03:10
cionlol03:10
cionwhat do u use instead of amarok?03:11
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treyh0mpd03:11
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treyh0i have a server set up with my music on it and play music with mpd03:11
treyh0then can use gmpc or a web based app to control it03:11
treyh0www.musicpd.org03:11
cionok listen, is it possible to uninstall default kde software i don't need?03:11
treyh0amarok is sure neat though.  i think it crashes because of gstreamer.03:12
cioncool03:12
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treyh0i would imagine, you can use Adept in kubuntu03:12
cionhow bout configuring ubuntu or kubuntu from server installation?03:12
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treyh0aptitude03:13
cion?03:13
treyh0aptitude is the command line version03:13
cionfor?03:13
treyh0Description: terminal-based apt frontend03:13
treyh0to let you install/uninstall programs03:13
treyh0etc03:13
ciondude I have no idea what ur talkin bout lol, is there something i can read?03:14
treyh0lemme see...03:14
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treyh0www.ubuntuforums.org is good :)03:14
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cionso once installed server i need to make every thing with aptitude?03:15
treyh0make everything?03:15
treyh0aptitude is just for installing/removing packages03:15
cioninstall03:15
cionok03:15
cionone by one?03:15
treyh0you can use plain 'apt-get'03:15
treyh0nah it's pretty easy03:15
treyh0open up a terminal and fire it up03:15
treyh0or log in to console03:15
treyh0aptitude is nice :>03:15
cionok03:16
cionwell thx man03:16
cionc 'ya ;)03:16
treyh0:)03:16
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jpatrickhello kkathman03:23
kkathmanhi jpatrick03:23
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kkathmanjpatrick:  im upgrading atm to Dapper03:25
jpatrickcool :)03:25
kkathmanhope it works03:25
treyh0how does dapper relate to debian sid in terms of stability/instability?03:25
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pmnew kde 3.5.2, is it worth upgrading/03:34
jpatrickpm:  it's not out03:35
pmit is03:35
_mindspinI just did and I am ok with it03:35
jpatrick3.5.2?03:36
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pm_mindspin, thanks03:36
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jpatrickpm: maybe 3.5.1?03:38
pm3.5.203:38
_mindspin!3.5.203:39
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jpatrickpm: i have no idea what you're talking about03:40
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pmjpatrick, i'm talking about kde 3.5.203:42
jpatrickpm: it has not been released03:42
pmit has03:42
jpatrickunless you want the SVN03:42
jpatrickso where's the announcement?03:42
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eeroi am on kubuntu. is it possible that my motherboard could stop the creation of /dev/dsp, cause I've got no sound and dsp?03:44
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jpatrickeero: can you see your sound card in KInfoCenter?03:44
eerono information found03:45
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jpatrickthen the kernel can't see it03:45
jpatrickwhat card do you have?03:45
kkathmanjpatrick:  dapper crashed :(03:46
kkathmanoh well03:46
jpatrick:(03:46
kkathmancard?03:46
jpatrickkkathman: i was talking to eero :)03:46
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eerosome integrated one, but i think "designed for windows" has something to do with it?03:46
_mindspinwhich kde version do you use?03:47
kkathmannah it removed all this stuff...then came up and  said...KDM is running, and in order to complete the install, i needed to close it..I did...it stopped03:47
eerokubuntu 5.10 so is that kde 3.403:47
kkathmanso I have. basically, a non-Gui system now03:47
jpatrickkkathman: 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' ?03:48
kkathmangives "not authorized"03:48
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eerohow do i make the kernel to see the card?03:48
jpatrickeero: by loading it's module03:48
jpatrickwhich I can't find without knowing what your card is03:49
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eerooh yes, and there is another problem: when i have any cards in PCI-slots, the hotplug subsystem hangs!03:50
eeroboot time03:50
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jpatrick:/03:51
eerois that a casual problem?03:52
jpatrickSometimes hotplug hangs...03:52
eerowhy?03:52
jpatrickno idea03:52
_mindspini had trouble with acpi03:53
_mindspinit gave me strange graphik effekts and shut occ pcmcia regulary03:54
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stjepanhi03:54
eeroMine hangs every time when something is in PCI slots. Could it have something in common with my integrated sonud card problem?03:54
_mindspinafter disabling it the problems vanished03:54
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eero"linux acpi=off" works for me03:54
stjepanI installed kubuntu. KDE desktop is very unfinished. And there are stupid view profiles in konqueror. KMenu is not very good designed. :( What do you think?03:54
_mindspinthat was  the solution for me03:54
_mindspinI like kde since 1.xxx03:55
jpatrickstjepan: see FAQ at kubuntu.org03:55
eeroI think KDE is good for beginners. And you can edit the K-menu...03:55
_mindspineero: what would you suggest for advanceds?03:56
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eeroKonsole :)03:57
eeroin KDE surely. I mean KDE is great; it has everything one needs03:57
eeroBut HOW can I disable hotplug then?03:58
eeroAnd I can't even read DVDs with my dvd-drive!03:59
eeroEither my motherboard or Kubuntu sucks. Every other distro has worked fine on my machine!04:00
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eeroWhat's the problem? Do I have to move to  bare Debian again; it couldn't automount usb-fs-cards. And Kubuntu DOES NOTHING!04:04
Vgeonee eero, you have found distro thats not good for ya ;)04:04
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Vgevitu onnee04:04
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eeroWich one do you use by yourself?04:06
Vgekubuntu runs nice and smooth in my laptop04:06
Daddy_DI've been thinking, do you think its possible some times to have a bad installation of kubuntu, therefore causing a lot of issues?04:06
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Daddy_DBecause I might try to reinstall and see if some things will simply go away/04:07
VgeDaddy_D: you checked that your cd is ok?04:07
Daddy_DThen again, I could always wait for the next release in april04:07
Daddy_DI did use that command to see if the numbers match yes04:08
eeroonneepa hyvinki, but i tought Kubuntu would work fine for me! I've installed Kubuntu 10 times and always had the same issues and problems.04:08
Daddy_DI see eero is giving me a hint04:08
eerono, i didn't.04:09
Daddy_DOk let me explain. Yestuday I finally sort out my issue with the gateway by using the command line to type it as the GUI didnt like it or aknowledge. I restarted and all of a sudden no internet again. So i check the options and I see no gateway displayed. I go to konsole type route add default gw blablabla and it works. I even save it as profile but still dostn remember when reboot.04:10
Daddy_DThere is always the option to leave it on DHCP and not hassle with this.04:10
eerowhat is the subject?04:11
Daddy_Dlost IP's during reboots04:11
Daddy_Dand some settings in general I guess04:12
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Vgeeero: have you tryed BUM (Boot Up Manager)?04:12
eeroAnd unrecognized soundcard, dvdfs,... what's that BUM?04:12
Vgehttp://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html04:12
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liquidindianHello, is there any site that could tell me the advantages of KDE over Gnome (& vice versa)?04:13
liquidindian(I'm assuming it's a question you get here a lot)04:14
eeroYes, and one thing: how can i get the "apt-get" on Kubuntu to seek debs from the whole ubuntu reposities?04:15
jpatrickliquidindian: KDE has a LOT more features04:15
ineseero: adept is kde's synaptic. But you can use synaptic, and apt-get in kubuntu.04:15
eeroadept has only about 4000 packages!04:15
jpatrickeero: enable universe04:16
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jpatrick!sources04:16
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ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:16
liquidindianjpatrick: Is Gnome easier?  I'm a bit new but playing around with things.04:16
jpatrickliquidindian: GNOME was ...ok but I so badly prefer KDE04:16
jpatrick+ I'm an MOTU KDE04:17
eerognome doesn't look as candy, but you might find it more useable04:17
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Daddy_DKDE looks better, you can modify it a lot so you get exactly what you want. Where GNOME I think is more for admins who want to concetrate on productivity rather than looks. In GNOME everything is more simple I guess.04:17
liquidindianMOTU?04:18
Daddy_DYou can still manage it just as good but you might as well start from KDE.04:18
vijayhi everybody, i inserted bluetooth device into usb drive, but i dont know how to access it???04:18
jpatrick!motu04:18
ubotuhmm... motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )04:18
eeroIn a nutshell!04:18
Daddy_Dis there a Linux bible?04:19
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liquidindianAhh.04:19
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jpatrick:)04:20
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maltedoes anyone know if it's possible to rotate the view in x.org? i've a tft monitor which can do this, but then i need x.org to follow after :)04:24
malteso instead of 1280x1024 i want 1024x128004:24
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Daddy_DI think custom resolution is not a problem because you can type the numbers you wany04:25
malteoh, but it's not only the resolution i want to change.. i want the whole view to flip 90 degrees :)04:26
Daddy_DHmm, my mistake. It seems that was possible on Mepis when I tried the live CD04:26
Cyberwal83wee04:26
Cyberwal83back and forward work like they're supposed to04:27
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malteDaddy_D: mkay, thanks.. i'll google around some more :)04:28
Daddy_DI didnt said much, but Im a noob too so I dont know how you could change those settings04:29
Daddy_Dunless it can be done specifically from command line04:30
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m0waxI can't get my vncserver on ubuntu to use kde can anyone help?  I think its something to do with my ~/.vnc/xstartup configuration04:31
jpatrickm0wax: why not use the KDE apps for VNC?04:32
m0waxI don't think I have them installed, how would I access them?  I originally installed ubuntu and then just downloaded kde, if that makes any difference04:32
_mindspinhas anyone a glue why firefox is so instable after switching to breezy ?04:33
jpatrickm0wax: K-menu -> Internet -> Krdc & Krfb04:33
m0wax_mindspin I had this problem as well.  I just downloaded and installed manually the most recent firefox and it seems to work fine04:33
_mindspinmmmh04:34
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m0waxonly problem is that you can't then apt-get install firefox-mplayer-plugin (or whatever) and have it work04:34
ragna!enlightment04:34
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ragna04:34
_mindspindid you uninstall the old one?04:34
m0waxjpatrick yeah I don't have that.  How would I get it?  Can I apt-get it?04:35
m0wax_mindspin yup04:35
jpatrickm0wax: yes04:35
_mindspinand saved your bookmarks first ;-)04:35
m0waxIt was a fresh install so I didn't have any......I think it might just leave ~/.mozilla anyway04:36
m0waxbut don't hold me to that04:36
_mindspinthat came to my minsd too04:36
_mindspinIll keep it and will make a backup copy first04:36
m0waxjpatrick: Are those packages not just for the client side of things?  I am looking to setup a server on my ubuntu box04:37
m0wax_mindspin good idea04:37
jpatrickm0wax: one's a client the other's a server for VNC04:37
m0waxjpatrick: thanks works a treat.  Any idea of I can create invititations from command line and wether I can setup a permanent password?04:39
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jpatrickm0wax: it's all in the configation04:39
kyowow, KDE is much much better then Gnome =)04:39
m0waxjpatrick: thanks04:40
jpatrick:)04:40
Daddy_Dsorry malte, I was looking in the book but couldnt find anything regarding resolution.04:41
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fit4lfehelp need with xwindows and dapper04:45
fit4lfecan anyone help me out on this04:45
_mindspin!dapper04:45
uboturumour has it, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.04:45
fit4lfeI understand that but it is the only way to get xgl to work04:46
fit4lfeforget it I''m just going switch back to breezy04:47
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fit4lfe!xgl04:49
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/04:49
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_mindspinbleeding edge is ....04:51
_mindspinah hurts sometimes04:51
ragnahow can i make a safe uninstall of KDE???04:51
benkong2question. I dual boot kubuntu & gentoo every time I let updater do a dist-upgrade it grabs the gentoo vmlinuz kernel and uses it as the kubuntu kernel. How can I prevent this?04:51
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Daddy_Dheh, if you want the latest all the time Windows is your only option :P04:54
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Daddy_DOnes I made a software disk with apps I considered vital. After 1 year they were so out of date I simply said I will never waste another CD for things like this.04:57
Psi-JackDaddy_D: Same thing for Windows, even when you slipstream them. :)04:57
Psi-JackAnd, besides. That's what CDRW or better, DVD-RW is for.04:58
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Blixoubonjur y a du monde ?05:04
Blixouousp bonjour*05:04
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ita_ciao05:20
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simonehi everybody05:23
Daddy_DI should have installed windows xp made with Nlite tools so I can remove most of the drivers and just make it a lot smaller.05:23
Daddy_DCould have saved so much space doing so05:23
simoneI have a problem compiling qemu from source: the solution is to use /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include, but I don't know how to apply this solution :-)05:23
simoneany help?05:23
Daddy_DI forgot05:23
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kyowhats the command to fetch the lastest update?05:28
_mindspinslightly offtopic, where can I change the size of firefoxes menu fonts?05:29
hatake_kakashiapt-get upgrade05:29
seezerkyo: the latest update of? everything updateable? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:29
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kyoWell everyone is off to lunch :)05:30
seezer_mindspin: gnome-font-properties05:30
_mindspinnope05:30
kyoah, thanks seezer , hatake_kakashi05:30
_mindspinI changed it with no effect05:30
seezerrestarted firefox?05:30
_mindspinI think I have to to it in chrome or somewhere05:30
_mindspinyep05:31
kyowhen I install / upgrade new stuff, there isn't a need to reboot, right?05:32
seezerhm. i my knowledge about this comes from suse at work, here my fonts are fine. but i bet this has to work on kubuntu too.05:32
hatake_kakashikyo: depends, if its kernel, you need to reboot for it to take effect05:32
_mindspinit worked before but for stability reasons i installed firefox from mozilla.org05:32
seezerkyo: reboot is only needed after a kernelupdate. i would also suggest a fresh login into kde after upgrading.05:33
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kyoI see.05:34
kyoer, ubuntu can unzip .rar files right?05:35
_mindspinseezer: you were right, I was in the false menu Gnome-font properties did the trick...05:35
Psi-Jackkyo: You mean unrar? Yes.05:35
jpatrickhey Psi-Jack05:35
kyounrar? Hmm ....05:36
kyoso what would the command line to unzip a .rar file?05:36
Psi-JackYou don't unzip a rar, because it's not zipped. You don't unzip a tar, because it's not a zip. You unrar a rar, and you untar a tar.05:36
hatake_kakashikyo: I don't think under standard installations do have it, try 7zip or winrar05:36
Psi-Jackjpatrick: Morning'05:36
_anilktrappist: hi05:36
trappisthi _anilk05:36
jpatrickPsi-Jack: I see you plan to do some packaging :)05:36
_anilktrappist: i upgraded to dapper05:36
trappistI'm sorry to hear that05:36
_anilktrappist: it removed my kde05:36
seezer_mindspin: tell me if you're settings stay after a reboot. i read the gnome/gtk fontsize is calculated by display-size values read from xserver.05:36
_anilktrappist: but apt-get install kde gets it back05:36
trappistyou want apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:37
seezergot a little crappy setup at work and after every reboot my settings are gone05:37
_anilktrappist: just that it did not do it by default05:37
_mindspinhaha I won't reboot until in 5hours ;-)05:37
Psi-Jackjpatrick: Yes. I have a lexmark-z600 package almost ready. The only thing I have a problem with left, is how to seperate the _orig and diff to build the debian tree over the _orig contents.05:37
_anilktrappist: when i tried 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' it gave some krita related dependency error05:37
seezer_mindspin: i'm no windoze installer ;) just tell me whenever you restarted.05:38
_mindspinsure05:38
_anilktrappist: remaining things are going fine. just updated you on what happened. thanks a lot.05:38
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jpatrickPsi-Jack: right....05:38
trappist_anilk: glad to hear it05:38
trappist_anilk: enjoy!05:38
_anilktrappis: bye !05:38
simoneProblem compiling qemu from source: the solution is to use /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include, but I don't know how to apply this solution :-) help?05:39
hatake_kakashikernel source or kernel headers05:39
hatake_kakashiin fact, in that case, its more likely kernel-headers05:40
kyojpatrick: I see ...05:40
Psi-Jackjpatrick: Hehe. And it's a binary package, so .. I dunno. Right now, I just have the tar of the binary usr/* tree inside the debianized tarball, which the debian/rules untars to it's unified debian/<packagename> directory, and sets up some symlinks, and stuff. It /works/.  I just don't think the ubuntu/kubuntu packaging guys would like it like that.. I dunno. LOL05:40
seezertrappist: you're running dapper? do you know if there is a known issues list somewhere?05:40
trappistseezer: there's malone, the replacement for bugzilla05:41
_anilksimone: qemu worked for me05:41
_anilksimone: but then i was running my own compiled kernel.05:41
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seezertrappist: ah, thx.05:42
tid-waveI don't have any timezones in the list :(05:43
tid-waveand time is set to UTC05:43
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tid-waveboth tzconfig and System Settings display no timezones/regions05:43
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slow-motionhallo05:46
jpatrickslow-motion: hello05:47
jpatrickPsi-Jack: heh05:47
slow-motionhi jpatrick05:47
simone_anilk: I following this ubuntuforums' thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6669405:48
simoneI have an error, than in another place is solved, but they simply say: I use "/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include instead". Instead of what????05:49
simoneI don't understand how to apply this solution... I'm not an expert in this kind of things.05:50
simonebtw, when I "make" it, it gives me an error.05:50
_anilksimone: hmm05:50
simoneI'm sure I need to edit the "configure" file05:51
simoneand replace something with /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include05:51
simonebut... ??? I'm simply lost05:51
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Psi-Jackjpatrick: Heh. I guess, it would actually even be better, if I could somehow "transform" the original Lexmark-provided tarball into the whole thing somehow. Probably the best means, from a licensing standpoint, huh? :-/05:55
jpatrickok05:55
jpatrickyep*05:55
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Psi-JackI guess when I get back in a few mins, that'll be what I'll try for. heh05:56
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GameCatcan anyone advise me on changing video card? nvidia geforce 4 > nvidia FX 550006:01
GameCatcan I just swap them and reboot (will it be reconfigured?) or is there more to do?06:02
jshadowGamecat: I did a similiar swap a while back and needed no extra config changes06:05
jshadowmine was from a geforce 4 to some kind of FX, and it worked right away, no changes06:06
GameCatjshadow: thats good news, thanks06:06
jshadownp06:06
GameCathere goes :)06:06
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nowotnyhello... anyone here using quanta editor...?06:13
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Daddy_DI have fx5500 too06:26
Daddy_Dso no need to change default drivers from kubuntu?06:26
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GameCatjshadow: it worked fine, and everything runs lovely - ta for the advice06:28
Daddy_DOh and another thing. This is more concerning thos who play games. Do you have any overcloking programs for video cards?06:28
jshadowGameCat: cool, no prob06:30
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jshadowDaddy_D: are you using the nv or the nvidia driver? nvidia would be the one you want for gaming06:31
Cyberwal83hey..06:31
Cyberwal83is there a reason that I can't run wine with sude when I select arts sound?06:31
Daddy_DI have no idea06:32
Daddy_Dhow do I find out?06:32
jshadowyou're probably running nv then, you'll want to install the package nvidia-glx06:32
Daddy_Dok I will do it now06:33
jshadowthen in a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org"06:33
kkathmanjust make sure your card is supported06:33
Cyberwal83when I run TA Spring with sudo and OSS sound, everything works but sound <.<y06:33
kkathmanif you dont, you'll be in a world of hurt06:33
jshadowthis is true06:33
jshadowthough I think all FXs would be ok06:33
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sniffpeeps06:34
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Daddy_DI dont understand I guess the command you told me is right but when I click in adept install nvidia-gix nothing much happenes really06:37
erhan_Rhi06:37
Daddy_DI cant understand this adept06:37
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hatake_kakashiheh06:38
hupp3lhow do I add new hardware in ubuntu?06:38
hupp3lor rather kubuntu?06:38
seezerDaddy_D: you first set all your wishes - install,update,uninstall. then click 'preview changes' and 'commit changes'06:38
Daddy_Daaah, I better paste what the message is because I think there is something wrong with x server not the nvidia drivers06:39
hatake_kakashiapt-get, synaptic, kynaptic, adept, aptitude, etc06:39
Daddy_Doh ok maybe this will hhelp06:39
seezerhupp3l: what are you trying?06:40
hupp3lI have a new wireless card06:40
hupp3lfor my laptop06:40
hupp3lI have an internal one(broadcom)06:40
hatake_kakashihupp3l: it should be detected under kernel, check via lspci06:41
hupp3land bought an airlink101 for $706:41
hupp3lI want to install the airlink10106:41
Daddy_Djshadow-afk:  http://pastebin.com/55982906:41
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hupp3lbut its not working, I mean i probably need to install the driver?06:41
Daddy_Dthis is what I get when I type the command you gave me06:41
Daddy_Dseezer, thanks dude. Now I know why I could never intstall anything06:42
hupp3lnope i dont see it under lspci06:42
seezerDaddy_D: ;)06:42
Cyberwal83uh06:43
angasuleis anyone here good with font issues?06:44
Cyberwal83a game just set my screen res to 640x how do I set it back?06:44
hatake_kakashihupp3l: I presume its plugged in under pcmcia right? check to see if you did not disable pcmcia detection at boot06:44
seezerCyberwal83: ctrl alt + or ctrl alt -06:44
Daddy_Dbrb06:44
Cyberwal83ctrl alt + or - do nothing :(06:45
hupp3lwell i put it in after i booted06:45
hupp3lhow do i check if i disabled it?06:45
Cyberwal83ok got it :O06:45
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Cyberwal83ok.. so is there a way to make wine use alsa and not rts? I looked around on winehq but I must be blind06:47
hatake_kakashihupp3l: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst| grep pcmcia06:48
hatake_kakashihupp3l: if the output returns nothing, then I presume its not disabled. If its not disabled, check dmesg| tail06:49
hupp3ldo i hav to wait long for an output?06:50
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hatake_kakashino06:50
tilo'ello06:50
hatake_kakashiits usually immediately06:50
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hupp3ldo i have to type that whole command?06:51
hatake_kakashihupp3l: of course06:51
noteventimeI have a problem, since I upgraded to dapper drake I have idle CPU usage at 40-70%06:51
hupp3lcat/boot/grub/menu.lst|grep pcmcia?06:51
noteventimeI can't find the process in KSysGuard06:51
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hatake_kakashihupp3l: there is a space between cat and / as well as after |06:52
hatake_kakashihupp3l: cat is a command06:52
hupp3lo ok06:52
noteventimecat /dev/mouse ;)06:52
hupp3lok06:53
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hupp3lno output06:53
hatake_kakashinoteventime: cat /proc/kcore ;)06:53
noteventimehehe06:53
hatake_kakashihupp3l: ok, do dmesg| tail06:53
noteventime. /dev/mouse whas wrong but you get the point06:53
hupp3lwhat do I look for in that output?06:53
hatake_kakashihupp3l: look for something to do with pcmcia or new card, etc06:54
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hupp3lcard inserted into slot 006:54
noteventimeCould someone help me find out what process is taking up the CPU?06:54
Spudchatnoteventime: top06:55
noteventimeaha06:55
Spudchatnoteventime: it will show you what is using the most cpu in real time06:55
noteventimehmmm.... something is wrong06:55
noteventimethe highest only is 1%06:56
hatake_kakashihupp3l: more info?06:56
noteventimewhile ksysguard tells me 50% is used06:56
hupp3lcs: pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power.06:56
hupp3l[4350689.692000]  pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 006:56
Spudchatby one process or in total?06:56
noteventimetotal: 50% and in top i see three processes with 3% each06:56
hupp3li guess it cant apply power to that slot?06:56
noteventime1% each i mean06:57
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hatake_kakashihupp3l: not sure, I think something doesn't seem too right, check with the forums06:57
hupp3lthank you for trying to help me06:58
hupp3lim not supposed to install the driver?06:58
noteventimeSome has any more ideas ^^06:58
hatake_kakashihupp3l: check with lspci.. I presume there is no mentioning of that card brand?06:59
hatake_kakashinoteventime: you presume that there is something churning away your CPU usage?06:59
Spudchatnoteventime: im lookin at my ksysqaurd and its a lot like yours, top shows only a few at a couple percent, but ksysgaurd shows 50% is in use07:00
hatake_kakashiwait.. isn't ksysguard process monitor?07:00
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noteventimeyes07:00
noteventimeBut it monitors CPU usage07:00
hatake_kakashiwell, quit that, goto konsole and run 'top'07:00
Spudchatksysgaurd says "performance monitor" next to it07:01
noteventimeI'm not runnign ksysguard07:01
hupp3lhatake_kakashi:  no there isnt07:01
noteventimei did :), but not while using top07:01
Spudchatand according to top its using 10% of my cpu eheh07:01
noteventimeMy superkaramba thingy also shows me 50% usage07:01
hatake_kakashihupp3l: looks like something is wrong with it, the laptop is not giving the pcmcia device power imo, try plugging it to another pcmcia slot or retry again07:02
noteventimeAnd yes i was using superkaramba before uppgrade07:02
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hupp3li only have one pci slot on my laptop07:02
hatake_kakashihupp3l: well retry plugging it again07:02
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hupp3ldo I need to restart the laptop before plugging in or can I just plug it out and in07:03
noteventimehupp3l: Are you running Kubuntu on an Laptop?07:04
hupp3lyes07:04
noteventimeDo you use WPA?07:04
Daddy_Dhey you know that thing you said about the nvidia driver? It was true. I havent got linux anymore07:04
hupp3lno right now only wep07:04
noteventimeok07:04
Daddy_Dit fails to boot during start up07:04
hupp3lwhy?07:04
noteventimeJust wanted to know if you had as much problems as me trying to get it to eork :)07:05
hupp3lo ok what wireless card are you using?07:05
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seezerDaddy_D: what does it tell you?07:05
colmis there a repository for koffice 1.5beta?07:05
Daddy_Dhmm I need to take a look07:06
noteventimeSome centrino packaged07:06
hupp3lhatake_kakashi: it says PCMCIA: socket d55ef828: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power07:06
noteventimeIntel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG07:06
seezercolm: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice15beta1 breezy main07:06
hupp3lo07:06
colmseezer, thanks.  want a shot of that krita CMYK ;-)07:07
noteventimeI cant use the Intel drivers any more...07:07
Cyberwal83great07:07
Cyberwal83Cedega won't even start the game07:07
Cyberwal83wonderful07:07
hatake_kakashihupp3l: hmm07:07
noteventimeDoent matter though, general drivers work fine07:08
hatake_kakashihupp3l: well I'm not too sure, it maybe an issue with the kernel I think07:08
Daddy_Dmodule dependanices, mounting local file system, syncronizing clock to ubuntu.com, and some random number generator has failed07:08
seezercolm: things i'll never (try) to understand. but nice that not everyone needs to be an artist ;)07:08
hupp3lhmmm ok. im going to keep it in and restart and try my luck07:09
hupp3lthanx again07:09
seezerDaddy_D: but not because of nvidia-glx, for sure07:09
hatake_kakashihupp3l: couldn't be much of a help I'm afraid, I never used laptop to that extent07:09
seezernvidia driver is loaded after all those messages07:09
Daddy_DFATAL: Could not open lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep.temp for writting: Read-only file system   [fail] 07:09
noteventimeIs dapper drake xgl accelerated, my desktop feels much faster anyway07:09
hupp3lits ok07:10
seezerDaddy_D: hm. what else did you install? can you see any 'can't mount bla on foo' messages?07:10
hupp3lo is there a way to automate my connect to my wireless07:10
noteventimein /etc/network/interfaces07:10
hupp3li have broadcom and have to ifconfig up it everytime07:11
noteventimeadd auto YOUR_NEWORK_CARD07:11
noteventimeand if you have to run some script prior to it just run pre-up SCRIPT_NAME07:11
hupp3ladd command not found07:11
hatake_kakashihupp3l: you need to edit that file with a text editor07:11
noteventimeadd into the file :)07:11
hupp3lo lol07:12
Daddy_Dseezer, when I press shift +up it dosent go up. I will restart again and see if I can find another failuer07:12
Daddy_DI dont remember installing anything else07:12
Daddy_Dit worked fine before07:12
seezerdid you check 'preview changes' before actually committing?07:13
Daddy_Dno07:13
seezershouldn't break it anyway, but you could know if you got another kernel now07:13
hupp3ldo i also just add the scripts I use into that file?07:13
Daddy_Dwell I think the rest is ok. Only this error which I believe is the kernel07:13
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seezerdid you use a selfbrewed kernel?07:14
seezer(before)07:14
noteventimeif you need to run a script first you can use pre-up SCRIPT07:14
Daddy_DI use the default kernel that comes with kubuntu07:14
Daddy_DI've only used linux for 2 days07:14
hupp3lhow do I create a script?07:15
Daddy_DI guess I did try to install VideoLan which said BRAKE-Install07:15
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Daddy_Dand then gave me error anyway that could not be installed07:15
seezerit can't mount your root partition - this most likely due to your kernel not recognizing the used filesystem. but with default kernel this should work..07:15
Daddy_DI dont think this is the reason07:15
seezercan you try the 'failsafe' bootmode?07:15
Daddy_DI have another HD inside I will see if it will work after unpluging it07:16
Daddy_Dah yeah good idea07:16
Daddy_DI will give it a go07:16
seezerdid you plug the additional HD right before your last boot?07:16
Daddy_Dno i did it like this afternoon and rebooted many times before this07:17
hupp3lhow do I create a script?07:17
Spudchatwhat kind of script?07:17
Daddy_DI think it was just after I did the nvidia drivers....who knows07:17
seezerDaddy_D: ok. so check failsafe please.07:17
Spudchata bash shell script or what?07:17
colmseezer, i'm not an artist either.  just need to send something to the printers in cmyk format...  without paying the adobe charges hopefully!07:18
hupp3la script to do a bunch of commands07:18
Daddy_Dok I cant even access recovery mode07:18
seezercolm: hmkay ;)07:18
noteventimejust write them into a textfile07:18
seezerDaddy_D: same thing?07:18
hupp3lok cool07:18
Spudchatstart with !#/bin/bash and go from there07:19
noteventime............^- needs to be first line07:19
Daddy_Dhmm, it did ask me for root password I pressed Ctrl D and different errors appeared07:19
Daddy_Dwait, I will type them in.07:19
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seezerno - just read the text above07:19
seezerand tell me07:19
hupp3lwhat does that mean neventime?07:19
noteventimehehe, nothing07:20
noteventimeJust ignore that07:20
hupp3lok07:20
hupp3land i save it as a text file?07:20
noteventimeYou can save it without extension07:21
noteventimeOr use sh07:21
seezerhupp3l: better try it with a 'echo hello world' first ;)07:21
Spudchateheh07:21
noteventimeis KOffice better than OpenOffice? (In your opinion)07:22
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hupp3land do i need to add the sudo thing infront of each command?07:23
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noteventimeActualy i dont know, but i dont think so07:23
noteventimei think the script is run as root07:23
Daddy_DOk, read what lines aboe?07:24
hupp3lok cool07:24
noteventimeBut better ask someone who knows :P07:24
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Daddy_Doh wait07:24
seezerDaddy_D: there is an explanation why you have to insert your password07:24
Daddy_DIm in kubuntu now but command line only07:24
hupp3lhow do i save the script if I need root access?07:24
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vgehmm, whats the console alternatinve to KDE:s network "enable device", "sudo ifup eth0"?07:25
noteventimeI think the scipt after pre-up is run as root07:25
Daddy_Dcan I reload the kernel somehow07:25
seezerDaddy_D: ah. ok. in failsafe? or the normal bootmode?07:25
Daddy_Dfailsafe07:25
noteventimewhat is the adress for the amaroK 1.4 beta 1 repo?07:25
hupp3lno thats not what i meant . When i try to save the script it says error writing FILENAME; permission denied07:26
noteventimeaha07:26
noteventimerun kate as root07:26
noteventimekdesu kate or sude kate07:27
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seezerDaddy_D: ls /lib/modules/ shows you how much entries?07:28
Daddy_Dit shows 2.6.12-9-38607:28
vgeadome is not in the repos? :)07:29
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seezerok - so just one kernel - no update done there07:29
Daddy_Dyes07:29
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Daddy_DI got one and I broke it already07:29
CaptainbrailleCan Kaffeine play wmv files?07:29
seezeri'd need to know the first error messages.. can you look for it in /var/log/kern.log?07:30
seezerCaptainbraille: with the correct ugly codecs installed, yes07:30
Daddy_Dhmm permission denied07:30
Daddy_Dif u give me a second I will log in as a root and find out07:30
seezerDaddy_D: these files are just for the admin of this box - try with sudo07:31
Captainbrailleseezer: what would you reccommend for wmv files then?07:31
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seezerCaptainbraille: w32codecs07:31
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seezerCaptainbraille: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main07:31
seezeradd this to your sources.list and you'll be able to install them with apt-get07:32
MetaMorfoziSanybody has idea to make krusader's ftp feature like the totalcommander's ftp ? I mean it the account window, where i can select an account and conenct it...07:32
seezer(after apt-get update)07:32
MetaMorfoziSAnd i not must type all thimes my pw and username07:32
Captainbrailleohh, okay07:32
Captainbraillethanks seezer!07:33
Captainbrailleseezer: should I still use Kaffeine or a different player?07:33
seezerDaddy_D: gonna get some oil from the basement. i'm freezing.. i'll be back in about 15 minutes07:33
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Daddy_Dok no problem07:34
Daddy_DIm here07:34
seezerCaptainbraille: i like and use kaffeine. it's "just" a kde gui for xine and mplayer afaik. those alone are good too.07:34
seezervideolan is worth a try too07:34
seezerok, cu later guys07:35
Captainbrailleseezer: ohh, okay, and I'm using the GStreamer engine, will that work too?07:35
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hupp3lvideolan is awsome07:38
hupp3luse that07:38
Captainbraillevideolan?07:38
hatake_kakashivlc07:38
hupp3lVLC07:38
hatake_kakashi!tell Captainbraille about vlc07:38
hupp3ltbh it is probably the best video player out there07:39
hupp3lapt-get install vlc07:39
Daddy_Dthat wont do anything07:39
seezerhupp3l:  (if you know just those available for windows) ;P07:40
seezernow really gone..07:40
Daddy_Dyou must add in source.list the webpages and type sudo apt-get update then apt-get install vlc07:40
hatake_kakashi!info vlc07:40
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB07:40
hupp3lwell yeah just add the backports07:40
Daddy_Dbut I didnt know that and was wondering why it gives me errors07:41
hupp3lok07:42
hupp3lsorry i shouldnt assume07:42
Daddy_DI know it says on the VLC webpage but after I started wondering why I cant modify the source.list07:42
Daddy_Dthere is always something. And by the way I still havent installed it :P07:42
hupp3ly not?07:42
hupp3lreally there hasnt been one video type that i couldnt play on vlc07:44
Daddy_DBecause I just rebooted after installing some Nvidia drivers or something and I dont have linux anymore07:44
noteventimei havn't got mvk working07:44
noteventimematroska07:44
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noteventimemkv*07:44
Daddy_DIm waiting on seezer to help me out when he puts oil in the heater07:44
Daddy_Dbut Im so hungry I also might disappear and do it a bit later07:46
hatake_kakashi!mkv07:47
ubotuhatake_kakashi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:47
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Daddy_Dnot good impressions with linux so far :(07:47
hatake_kakashinoteventime: probably you can play it via vlc07:47
poningruDaddy_D: whats wrong?07:48
morrowhrm.. my workstation only boots with kernel option irqpoll...07:48
seezerre07:52
Daddy_Dhey seezer even when I log in as root a I still dont have permission to see the kern.log07:53
hatake_kakashiubotu: mkv is Matroska video format. You can play it with vlc, see !vlc07:54
ubotuokay, hatake_kakashi07:54
seezerDaddy_D: what did you type?07:54
hatake_kakashi!mkv07:54
uboturumour has it, mkv is Matroska video format. You can play it with vlc, see !vlc07:54
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Daddy_Droot@kubuntu:~# /var/log/kern.log07:54
seezerthis would execute the file07:55
Daddy_DPermission denied07:55
Daddy_Doh07:55
seezerbut a logfile is hardly executed07:55
seezertry with an editor: vim /var/log/kern.log07:55
poningruhatake_kakashi: do you know how to mount an iso file?07:56
hatake_kakashiponingru: you mount it via -o loop07:56
poningruah loop gotcha07:56
poningruthanks07:56
hatake_kakashiponingru: np07:56
Daddy_Derr how do I quit the editor?07:56
hatake_kakashiDaddy_D: which editor?07:57
Daddy_Dvi07:57
hatake_kakashiDaddy_D: :q to quit, :q! to not save and quit. :x to save and quit07:57
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Daddy_Dphhew07:57
poningruhatake_kakashi: wow didnt know about x07:57
poningru:x that is07:57
hatake_kakashiponingru: heh help pages are always handy07:58
hatake_kakashibut I prefer to use vim instead of vi07:58
poningrutrue07:58
Daddy_Danyway, so the line says error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vimrc:  line 58   E483 Can't get temp file name07:58
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hatake_kakashiDaddy_D: did you try putting something without saving the file?07:59
noteventimeThe gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.??!?!?07:59
Daddy_Dnope07:59
hatake_kakashi!tell noteventime about mp307:59
hatake_kakashiDaddy_D: hmm07:59
noteventimei have installed win32codecs07:59
Daddy_DI am really starving now. seezer can I get back to do this in a bit?#08:00
Daddy_DIf you have skype it might be even easier man08:00
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hatake_kakashinoteventime: you probably have to edit specific bindings I think.. not sure exactly how, check with gstreamer-engine source? or google?08:00
Daddy_Dif you can help the better08:00
seezeri could take a look through ssh if you want08:01
Daddy_Dssh?08:01
seezerbut first have to shower or my girlfriend will beat me later08:01
Daddy_Dyeah ok Im gonna eat too so I will see you in about 1 hour or so08:01
Daddy_DI will pm you or something08:01
seezeralright08:02
Daddy_Dchao08:02
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seezerenjoy your meal08:02
hupp3lwhere do I copy my wallpapers to?08:02
seezerbye08:02
hupp3lor rather where is the wallpapers located @?08:02
hatake_kakashihupp3l: why? do you want to make it accessible to everyone?08:03
hupp3lno I want to get other wallpapers and copy it there08:03
hupp3li like the sarcasm hatake_kakashi08:04
hatake_kakashihupp3l: no I meant accessible to all users08:04
hupp3lo lol08:04
hatake_kakashihupp3l: its probably under /usr/share/kde/wallpapers.. just go configure desktop and then select set wallpaper or something08:04
hupp3lok thank you08:05
hatake_kakashihupp3l: np08:05
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phipa?08:06
hupp3li tried to install firefox using apt-get08:06
colmseezer, got cmyk going now.  This should be shouted from the rooftops!  thx08:06
hupp3land it went through but there is nothing on my menu08:06
hupp3lis there something else i need to do?08:06
vgewell better would be to install the 1.5 version08:07
vgehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:07
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hupp3lok will try08:08
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MetaMorfoziShupp3l: if you are under kde you need some other things for the base firefox feeling:)08:18
noteventimeWhat?08:18
MetaMorfoziSsearch @ kde-look.org for the following things: Kdialog , Winterfox08:18
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MetaMorfoziSand you need some theme, like noia because the base gtk skin isn't nice (i think:))08:19
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fit4lfewhat is the easiest way to get remote desktop from a windows box to kde08:19
MetaMorfoziSand hupp3l  apt-get install msttcorefonts08:21
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tid-waveevery time i install something with apt-get i get this warning:08:22
tid-waveCan't exec "locale": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 16.08:22
tid-waveUse of uninitialized value in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 17.08:22
LeeJunFanfit4lfe: krdc - kde remote desktop client08:22
fit4lfek08:26
hupp3lhow do I link an icon to an application?08:32
hupp3llike I made a shortcut to the panel but it doesnt show the nice firefox icon08:33
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hupp3lnevermind08:34
hupp3li got it08:34
slow-motionbbl08:35
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_ganymedhallo08:39
CaptainbrailleHow do I configure my soundcard to set up ALSA?08:41
seezerCaptainbraille: if you didn't change it before, you're already running it08:44
kkathmanalsa normally runs by default08:44
Captainbrailleseezer: I try to run ALSA with amaroK but it won't work, I don't hear anything, but OSS works08:44
seezerhm perhaps muted in 'alsamixer'?08:46
Captainbraillelemme check08:46
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noteventimehave you tried arts?08:48
CaptainbrailleI tried it before, it was working08:49
Captainbrailleseezer: center was muted, but it's unmuted now, and it's still not playing =\08:49
seezerand master+pcm are set to somethinge above zero right?08:50
seezersomething08:50
Captainbrailleseezer: both at 8108:50
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seezerhm. but anyway, this should be the oss emulation of alsa08:52
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dumezilanyone know if the package unison is available?08:53
seezeri think the default kernel just got alsa in it since alsa can emulate oss. mut you can listen to music while searching the forums for better help ;)08:53
seezerdumezil: yes it is08:53
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dumezilwhy doesn't it show up in adept for me then?08:54
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seezerdumezil: did you update your sources?08:54
_ganymedhi. i have tried on the debian channel... no luck, so i'll try here. when i boot my pc with a 2.6.13 kernel i get random kernel panics with the message: "Code: Bad EIP value:" any ideas what could cause this?08:55
dumezilyep...  running 5.10 breezy badger or whatever08:55
dumezildoing an apt-cache search unison returns no results either08:55
JohnFluxbtw, katapult is pretty damn cool08:57
seezerdumezil: http://nopaste.php-q.net/192630 this is my sources.list08:58
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Daddy_Dhey seezer im back08:59
seezerfrom you're magical journey08:59
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Daddy_Dwanna take a look at the problem?08:59
seezeryour..08:59
Daddy_Deh08:59
Daddy_Dheh08:59
seezersecond09:00
Daddy_Ddo you want me to pm you?09:00
seezerok09:01
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dumezilwhat does the universe and multiverse in sources.lst do?09:02
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seezerthese are special repositories. check out kubuntu dokumentation for further information09:03
Daddy_Dah I cant pm09:04
Daddy_Dits disabled in freenode?09:04
crimsunyou can't pm if you're not identified09:05
Daddy_Dmm k09:05
Daddy_Dseezer do you want to do this over skype?09:05
seezerDaddy_D: join channel #daddy-seezer09:06
_ganymedok, now i get: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference... kernel panic. any ideas?09:06
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Daddy_Dk09:07
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tilo'ello again, is there any repo that has the, more or less, newest CVS version of mesa09:23
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tiloAnyone here tried Compiz?09:27
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trappistwho was it in here that wanted feedback on the amarok1.4 beta1 packages?09:32
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dumezilwhen i try some of the opengl screen savers, they only show up on the top half or third of my display?  anyone konw why?09:34
MetaMorfoziSat configure i have this09:34
MetaMorfoziSchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!09:34
trappistwow, never seen that one.  what video card?09:34
MetaMorfoziSwhy?09:34
MetaMorfoziSi have qt4-core09:34
MetaMorfoziSwhy it needs qt?09:34
trappistyou need libqt3-dev and/or libqt3-headers09:35
MetaMorfoziSi have libqt3-dev09:35
MetaMorfoziSbut libqt3-headers not found09:35
MetaMorfoziSno...09:36
MetaMorfoziSso i have these:09:36
MetaMorfoziSlibqt3-headers09:36
trappistlame.  I guess the next step is to peek into the configure script and see how it's checking for it, or ./configure --help and see how to specify the location of the qt headers.09:36
MetaMorfoziSlibqt3-mt-dev09:36
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MetaMorfoziSahm09:37
MetaMorfoziS(i'm lame, you spoke good)09:37
trappist:)09:37
MetaMorfoziS--with-qt-includes=DIR  where the Qt includes are.09:38
MetaMorfoziS  --with-qt-libraries=DIR where the Qt library is installed.09:38
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MetaMorfoziShow can i find qt?09:38
MetaMorfoziSwhereis returned null09:38
MetaMorfoziSwhereis libqt3-mt-dev09:38
trappistdpkg -L libqt3-dev | grep include09:38
trappistor libqt3-mt-dev, if it'll accept those09:39
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trappistthat's for the headers.  for the libs, dpkg -L libqt3-mt | grep /lib/09:39
MetaMorfoziSit said, the libqt3 isn't able to setup but it writen a list about libqts that can replace it09:40
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MetaMorfoziSbut i have all of these installed09:40
MetaMorfoziSdpkg -L libqt3-mt | grep /lib/09:41
MetaMorfoziSreturned ~30 lines of *.so09:41
MetaMorfoziSand other09:41
trappistyou want to give the configure script the directory those .so's are in09:41
trappistand .a's etc.09:41
MetaMorfoziScopy it?09:46
MetaMorfoziScopy the installation files to the so-s directory?09:46
MetaMorfoziSor reverse?09:46
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_ganymedciao09:51
osh_I'm thinking of building a website for my family, it needs to be easy to update and maintain so I'm looking at some blog-software to do the job. Anyone got any hints on which blog/wiki to choose? Wordpress/XOOPS/Something else?09:52
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maeany kde equivalent to ekiga or gnome meeting?09:55
jpatrickKonference09:57
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maeit does sip also?09:57
slow-motionre09:57
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wickersanyone here also in #ubuntu?10:02
hatake_kakashiyes why?10:02
noteventimeyes10:03
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wickersI'm banned out of it for some reason10:03
wickers(no idea really)10:03
noteventimeI am... Why do you wonder?10:03
noteventimeok :/...10:03
wickershow would I got about talking to an op there?10:03
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noteventimeDunno :)10:04
hatake_kakashilol10:04
wickersI have not logged into #ubuntu in like half a month, so I have no idea how/why I (or maybe my ISP) has been banned.10:04
hatake_kakashiwickers: you were banned by Seveas10:04
wickersAnd I'm not a dick or anything...10:04
hatake_kakashitry #ubuntu-offtopic10:04
wickersusually I try to help people.10:05
wickersso I'm surprised10:05
hatake_kakashiyou were banned by nickname10:05
wickersnickname or Seveas?10:05
noteventimeIs anyone of you using dapper drake?10:06
hatake_kakashiSeveas is the one who banned you10:06
hatake_kakashinoteventime: not I, I'm still on breezy10:06
noteventimeok10:06
noteventimeIm trying to get compiz to work right now, if it would it would be nice :)10:06
hatake_kakashiwickers: you're probably banned because someone abused your nickname or I don't know10:06
wickerswell I'm talking to him now.10:07
wickersthanks10:07
hatake_kakashinp10:07
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morrow!ntfs10:08
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:08
noteventime:) Hope the new packages include new mesa10:08
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yannHello10:10
maeheh can someone have an sip video chat with me? i want to test my webcam :)10:10
yannLooking to install Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, but I can not find a suitable entry to put into my sources.list. I run breezy. I found a doc to install manually, but I would prefer to have most of my softs installed through apt-get install.10:11
yannWould you have a suggestion ? Thx10:12
noteventimeFirefox shouldnt be a prob installing from the original tarball because it has autoupdates builtin10:12
yannnoteventime: even if run as a standard user? The auto-update goes to the user home, under .mozilla ?10:13
noteventimeIt worked for me anyway :)10:13
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slow-motionyann whait a second and i can give you my sources.list10:17
yannslow-motion: ok, I wait ;-)10:18
noteventimecompiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing... This is becauce of "old" mesa, right?10:19
slow-motionhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/560184 < here is it yann10:19
yanngot it, thx!10:20
yannOups, I have to go. Thanks you all, bye !10:22
noteventimeBye10:22
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sebastianfolks10:23
sebastianwhy is kubuntu/ubuntu not playing wmv files?10:23
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hatake_kakashi!tell sebastian about wmv10:23
ragnahatake_kakashi: DUDDDDDDDDDDDDE!!! hey =D wazaap?10:24
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noteventimesebasian: You need win32codecs10:27
noteventimefrom the PLF repositry10:27
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TiNePaShi10:28
MetaMorfoziSi have this10:28
TiNePaSI've a problem compiling the modules for lirc10:28
MetaMorfoziShttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/879410:28
MetaMorfoziSany ideas?10:28
MetaMorfoziSwhat is the problem?10:28
TiNePaSnot compile10:28
TiNePaS:(10:29
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TiNePaSthe make don'r find the kenrel source10:29
_mindspin!gcc10:29
ubotuI guess gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'10:29
TiNePaSmmm10:30
TiNePaSthe assistan don't find the kernel source10:30
TiNePaSis normal?10:30
sebastiani have win32codecs but still doesnt play wmv filesubuntu10:31
MetaMorfoziSyou have gtreamer plugins?10:31
MetaMorfoziSand you have registered it?10:31
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sebastiani have all the plugins10:32
sebastianand they are registered10:32
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MetaMorfoziShave you got mplayer?10:32
MetaMorfoziSor totem?10:32
sebastianall of them10:32
MetaMorfoziSok... idunno10:33
_mindspinTiNePaS: apt-cache pkgnames |grep kernel10:34
sebastianwhat worries me10:34
MetaMorfoziSanybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?10:34
sebastianis that ubuntu installs old version of win32 packages10:34
TiNePaSthe make don'f find the kenrel source10:37
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TiNePaS:(10:37
jshadowTiNePas: what kernel are you using?10:38
TiNePaS2.6.1210:39
jshadow386?10:39
TiNePaSfor k710:39
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jshadowinstall the package linux-headers-k7 and then it should compile ok10:40
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TiNePaSit is installed10:40
jshadowhmm, what is it you're trying to compile?10:41
TiNePaSa module10:41
TiNePaSfor lirc10:41
TiNePaSwhen i install lirc-module-source10:41
TiNePaSit compile the module automatic10:42
TiNePaSbut it don't find the kernel source10:42
jshadowdo you have a symbolic link for /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-k7?10:42
jshadowor whatever the directory is10:43
TiNePaSi think yes10:43
TiNePaSwait a moment and I make it10:43
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TiNePaSjshadow:10:45
GenericI'm curious, Is there a shell program that can boot Kubuntu off my external while I'm inside windows?10:45
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TiNePaSi make the symbolic link10:46
TiNePaSok?10:46
TiNePaSAnd now?10:46
jshadowok, did that help?10:46
TiNePaSno10:46
jshadowtry make again10:46
TiNePaSok10:46
Ashex!enter10:46
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!10:46
jshadowalso, ./configure again first10:47
TiNePaSsed: can't read /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory10:48
TiNePaSmake: *** No rule to make target `binary-modules'.  Stop.10:48
TiNePaSthis is the error10:48
jshadowyeah that would be a problem with the link then, you ran configure first before the make?10:49
hatake_kakashiIs it possible to make ubuntu use nls_utf8 as default charset rather than nls_iso8859_1 and/or nls_cp437?10:49
TiNePaShey jshadow10:50
TiNePaSthis run10:50
TiNePaSbut I have a new error :(10:50
jshadowTiNePas: Ok, what is it saying now?10:50
TiNePaSis : make: *** No rule to make target `binary-modules'.  Stop.10:50
TiNePaSI had a bad link10:51
TiNePaSbut, now?10:51
jshadowhrm.. sounds like there's something wrong with the make file then, no other errors?10:51
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TiNePaSno, only one10:51
jshadowafraid I don't know then, sorry10:52
TiNePaSok,thank10:52
TiNePaSI have only one error now10:53
TiNePaS:)10:53
AshexHow would I use VMware to load kubuntu off my external?10:55
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poningruAshex: you would have to make a vmware image of that external hd10:58
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AshexI'd have to make an image of the entire hard drive? O.o10:59
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bodhi-baumgibt es baghira eigentlich auch fr kubuntu?11:02
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inf3rnoI'm about to embark on setting up World of Warcraft under WINE in Kubuntu. Has anyone done this? I'm curious as to if I need to apply the custom patches to WINE and recompile as mentioned at various HowTo's, or to just install WINE stock as the Ubuntu Wiki says?11:03
inf3rnoHi folks11:03
inf3rnoI'm about to embark on setting up World of Warcraft under WINE in Kubuntu. Has anyone done this? I'm curious as to if I need to apply the custom patches to WINE and recompile as mentioned at various HowTo's, or to just install WINE stock as the Ubuntu Wiki says?11:03
inf3rnomst11:04
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AshexSo VMware allows you to running operating systems. But I need to have one thing clarified11:05
AshexThe operating system it runs, is the file it loads THE os? or is that file just an address for where the operating system is located?11:05
mac__how can I get a dvorak *layout* (not variant) in kubuntu? In Debian there's a seperate Dvorak layout, with its own flag and all...11:06
mac__instead in kubuntu I have to fudge stuff, having one US(basic varaint) layout, and another Canadian(dvorak variant), just to be able to switch between QWERTY and Dvorak...11:06
mac__(this is all within the KDE Keyboard Tool)11:07
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icedoes anyone have eclipse installed11:16
ice!eclipse11:18
ubotuto install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE11:18
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ricky_dsHi folks. Just converted from mandriva to kubuntu. Oh this feels sooo good.11:26
cinderwhich is the exec file for the kmenu?11:26
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SuperNovadoesnt anyone know how you can se what licens a progr is released under in synaptic?11:30
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angasulehmm, I want libcurl.so.2 , but the default version is libcurl.so.3, how do I install an older version (I don't want to remove the current one, it's probably there for a reason)11:32
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MarcCis there a way to run a split-view in Konqueror?11:33
AshexHow would I get VMware to detect my other hard drives?11:33
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angasuleMarcC: yes, hmm11:34
angasuleMarcC: I don't remember the key combination11:35
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MarcCangasule, if there is one, maybe I can find it11:35
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angasuleMarcC: there is, I'm sure, since I used it a couple of days ago, you could google, too11:36
MarcCok, thanks11:36
angasuleMarcC: I think it was ctrl+something, but not sure11:36
tilo:'( i cant get compiz to start11:37
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ricky_dsMarcC: Ctrl-Shift-T for horizontal and Ctrl-Shift-L for vertical split11:38
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cinderwhich is the exec file for the kmenu?11:41
ricky_dscinder: you mean for editing the menu? or what do you want to do?11:41
cinderto run it11:41
cinderfrom kxdocker bar11:41
noteventimeIs there any reason ro not use metacity for kde, apart from kwin being better?11:42
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ricky_dscinder: ah I see... no idea, sorry. I'm not even sure it is an executable per se...11:42
cinder:(11:43
angasuleI want libcurl.so.2 , but the default version is libcurl.so.3, how do I install an older version (I don't want to remove the current one, it's probably there for a reason)11:43
MarcCricky_ds, thank you11:43
ricky_dsMarcC: no prob. though now I don't remember how to remove a split view... :(11:44
MarcCdoh :D11:44
MarcCoops, now I have like 5 split views!11:45
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MarcCricky_ds, Ctrl+Shift+R removes active view :)11:46
ricky_dsMarcC: thanks :)11:47
MarcCnp11:47
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SuperNovadoent anyone know11:48
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cinderdoes anyone knows how to change the icons for the iconbar?11:59
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angasuleI want libcurl.so.2 , but the default version is libcurl.so.3, how do I install an older version (I don't want to remove the current one, it's probably there for a reason)12:01

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