[12:03] <NabZ> i did. didnt run tho :(
[12:03] <ubijtsa2> why not use ktorrent ?
[12:03] <NabZ> herd bittornado is good
[12:04] <ubijtsa2> bittornado is ok, so's ktorrent
[12:04] <Psi-Jack> ktorrent has it's issues, mainly because it doesn't properly follow torrent protocol right.
[12:04] <NabZ> hmm so what can i do about bitornado?
[12:04] <NabZ> iv installed it over adept
[12:05] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: let me install it
[12:05] <jindiaz> do i press save now and its done?????
[12:05] <NabZ> and with konsol
[12:05] <NabZ> kk. :) ty
[12:05] <jindiaz> robotgeek??
[12:05] <robotgeek> jindiaz: i guess so
[12:05] <jindiaz> lol
[12:05] <jindiaz> aight lets see
[12:05] <jindiaz> haha
[12:06] <jindiaz> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo.....
[12:07] <jindiaz> that soooooooooooooooooooooooooo didint work
[12:07] <jindiaz> lol
[12:07] <jindiaz> it is there, in internet, but the icon is wrong, and it wont even open
[12:07] <jindiaz> hahahaha
[12:07] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: try "btdownloadgui"
[12:07] <NabZ> where about?
[12:07] <jindiaz> CRAP
[12:07] <ubijtsa2> either with alt+F2 or in a konsole
[12:08] <NabZ> dont work   in   alt+f2
[12:08] <NabZ> nor konsole
[12:08] <NabZ> bash: btdownloadgui: command not found
[12:08] <johnflux> NabZ: did you install it :P
[12:08] <jindiaz> any suggestions
[12:08] <jindiaz> ?
[12:08] <ubijtsa2> strange, works here
[12:08] <robotgeek> jindiaz: moment please
[12:08] <NabZ> yeh i did.
[12:09] <NabZ> adept
[12:09] <NabZ> says its installed aswell
[12:09] <ubijtsa2> which btdownloadgui --> /usr/bin/btdownloadgui
[12:09] <robotgeek> jindiaz: dc++ is available in the repos
[12:09] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: maybe I should ask, which release are you on ? :)
[12:10] <NabZ> of kubuntu?
[12:10] <ubijtsa2> yeah
[12:10] <NabZ> latest. downloaded it a few hours ago. lol
[12:10] <jindiaz> WHUT!?  no way!!!  argh....  i tried finding it there!!  ok let me try this silly adept again
[12:10] <robotgeek> jindiaz: sudo apt-get install dcgui
[12:10] <robotgeek> !info dcgui
[12:10] <ubotu> dcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB
[12:10] <ubijtsa2> latest as in "still smoking" ? :)
[12:10] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell jindiaz about repos
[12:11] <robotgeek> jindiaz: take a look at that link which ubotu sent you
[12:11] <NabZ> ?
[12:12] <robotgeek> jindiaz: u need to add universe repository
[12:12] <jindiaz> yahhhhhhhhhhh see thats the thing, ive tried that and it DOESNT WORK
[12:12] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: in a konsole, if you type "dpkg -L bittornado-gui", it should tell you where it installed itself
[12:12] <jindiaz> yah that command didnt work ewither
[12:12] <NabZ> kk
[12:12] <NabZ> not installed
[12:13] <jindiaz> ok hold up, im going to try... again...
[12:13] <ubijtsa2> okay, that explains the "bash: btdownloadgui: command not found"
[12:13] <NabZ> lol, yeh
[12:13] <ubijtsa2> did the apt-get install give you any errors ?
[12:14] <NabZ> nope
[12:14] <jindiaz> ok..... now adept doesnt open anymore
[12:14] <jindiaz> hahahahahaha
[12:14] <jindiaz> man...
[12:14] <jindiaz> lol
[12:14] <jindiaz> ok im gunna restart
[12:14] <luisito> !dekorator
[12:14] <ubotu> luisito: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:14] <ubijtsa2> did it explicitly tell you that it installed the package @NabZ
[12:14] <NabZ> ooo
[12:14] <NabZ> you mean
[12:14] <NabZ> sudo apt-get bittornado-gui
[12:15] <NabZ> E: Invalid operation bittornado-gui
[12:15] <NabZ> thats the error i got with t
[12:15] <NabZ> it*
[12:15] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: you need to do "sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui"
[12:15] <ubijtsa2> the "install" keyword is important
[12:15] <NabZ> Package bittornado-gui is not available
[12:16] <ubijtsa2> right, now we are getting somewhere :)
[12:16] <NabZ>  but is referred to by another package.
[12:16] <NabZ> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:16] <NabZ> is only available from another source
[12:16] <NabZ> E: Package bittornado-gui has no installation candidate
[12:16] <robotgeek> !info bitornado-gui
[12:16] <ubijtsa2> robotgeek: you are missing a 't'
[12:16] <robotgeek> yup
[12:16] <kkathman> 2 ts
[12:17] <robotgeek> NabZ: you need to enable the universe repository
[12:17] <NabZ>  !info bittornado-gui
[12:17] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: (bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 232 kB
[12:17] <NabZ> how do i do that?
[12:17] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell NabZ about repos
[12:17] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: I can tell you how I would do it :)
[12:17] <robotgeek> NabZ: check PM from ubotu
[12:17] <NabZ> ty
[12:18] <ubijtsa2> saying that, I'd hack sources.list by hand, I always do :)
[12:18] <NabZ> bahh thats   gnome lol
[12:18] <robotgeek> NabZ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto
[12:18] <kkathman> link link link
[12:18] <kkathman> hehe
[12:19] <NabZ> ty
[12:19] <NabZ> ah crap; this looks like a pain in the ass lol
[12:19] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: vim is a walk in the park :)
[12:20] <ubijtsa2> kkathman: no, you don't want that, trust me...
[12:20] <bluezy> greetings
[12:20] <kkathman> well its what gets done anyway :)
[12:20] <kkathman> it could go to PM of course
[12:20] <kkathman> hehe
[12:20] <ubijtsa2> it would drive me up the wall..
[12:20] <kkathman> lol
[12:21] <kkathman> i was being quite a bit tongue in cheek
[12:21] <ubijtsa2> if it could be disabled for users that didn't want it, sure..
[12:21] <NabZ> is there not a easier way to do this?
[12:21] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: synaptic has a easy-to-use way to do it, but is gnome app
[12:21] <NabZ> mm
[12:22] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: using vim isn't as bad as it sounds
[12:22] <NabZ> vim? im using konsole atm
[12:22] <NabZ> lol
[12:22] <robotgeek> NabZ: use nano, instead of vim
[12:23] <ubijtsa2> vim is an editor, you either like it or you don't, and usually only way to find out is to try it :)
[12:23] <robotgeek> NabZ: or even kate, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:23] <NabZ> ah yeh, im using nano atm lol
[12:23] <bluezy> I love vi
[12:23] <vge> nano powns
[12:23] <bluezy> but you can use emacs as well
[12:23] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: i use vim all the time, it's not recommended for people who are new to it
[12:23] <ubijtsa2> the lines for universe should be in there, just have to take the '#' off the start of the lines
[12:24] <jindiaz> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[12:24] <bluezy> robotgeek, if you have used edlin, you know how vim works
[12:24] <ubijtsa2> robotgeek: I'm as happy in vim as I am in Emacs :)
[12:24] <jindiaz> hey robot, still no luck
[12:24] <bluezy> oops, I am showing my age here
[12:24] <robotgeek> bluezy: i definetly know how vim works, heh
[12:24] <ompaul> :wq!
[12:24] <ubijtsa2> bluezy: sed & awk :)
[12:25] <ubijtsa2> ompaul: :x  :)
[12:25] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: i know emacs enough to get out of it
[12:25] <ubijtsa2> or :x! if you want more oomph :)
[12:25] <ubijtsa2> robotgeek: emacs is nice :)
[12:25] <Hobbsee> !start an editor war
[12:25] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:25] <Hobbsee> bah...
[12:25] <kkathman> lol
[12:25] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: i know, i just got used to vim
[12:26] <ompaul> Hobbsee, wars are banned
[12:26] <kkathman> feel better Hobbsee ?
[12:26] <ubijtsa2> bluezy: :x == :wq
[12:26] <Hobbsee> kkathman: yeah, much :)
[12:26] <zblach> hi. i got my keyboard stuck in utf8. how can I change it back?
[12:26] <kkathman> good
[12:26] <slow-motion> n8
[12:26] <ubijtsa2> robotgeek: tends to be the first one you try that you like best of them two
[12:26] <bluezy> oh I am so used to typing :wq that I don't use it...
[12:27] <NabZ> ok i think i done it
[12:27] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: i actually learnt emacs first, but quit in the intial stages due to keybindings on the mac
[12:27] <NabZ> its getting packeges now
[12:27] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: good stuff, it should work fine from now
[12:27] <NabZ> ty :)
[12:27] <zblach> it's fairly irritating as some programs don't like utf8
[12:27] <zblach> like scite
[12:27] <bluezy> oh well, I am off again I need to figure out this problem on vms
[12:27] <NabZ> sudo apt-get install bttornado-gui
[12:28] <NabZ> that correct?
[12:28] <ubijtsa2> da
[12:28] <bluezy> see ya
[12:28] <ubijtsa2> that the baby
[12:28] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: tell Hobbsee about vim
[12:28] <ubijtsa2> *lol*
[12:28] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Hobbsee about vim
[12:28] <Hobbsee> haha
[12:28] <NabZ> :D its installing bit tornado
[12:28] <Hysty> coffee time
[12:29] <NabZ> thanx guyz
[12:29] <ubijtsa2> Hobbsee: vim with the vimacs extension is nice.. you should see the dev's that try and use that on my box :)
[12:29] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: i havent tried it yet, maybe i should give it a whirl
[12:29] <ubijtsa2> not to mention that I am the only one using Dvorak there as well
[12:29] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: heh
[12:30] <ubijtsa2> robotgeek: vim is useful, but only really on the console and when the files are small to medium.
[12:30] <robotgeek> ubijtsa2: i work mostly with vim and screen, that's my ide :)
[12:31] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:31] <ubijtsa2> once files get *large*, you really want to go X and Kate or Emacs
[12:31] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah
[12:31] <Hobbsee> like xorg.conf
[12:31] <NabZ> hey guys, is there a  basic text editor like notepad?
[12:31] <ubijtsa2> xorg.conf is small, easy to hack from the console :)
[12:31] <NabZ> to code php, ant stuff
[12:31] <NabZ> and*
[12:31] <ubijtsa2> NabZ: for KDE?
[12:31] <NabZ> yeh
[12:31] <ubijtsa2> try Kate
[12:32] <NabZ> i gotta install it?
[12:32] <robotgeek> NabZ: nope
[12:32] <ubijtsa2> there is also Kedit
[12:32] <NabZ> ahh
[12:32] <ubijtsa2> Kate is better though
[12:32] <NabZ> i see it
[12:32] <NabZ> ty :D
[12:33] <jindiaz> hey ummm robotgeek, any advice?
[12:33] <ubijtsa2> I like the way Kate can save sessions and remember the files you were editing
[12:33] <robotgeek> jindiaz: on?
[12:33] <ubijtsa2> reeet, bedtime
[12:33] <jindiaz> lol, the adept issue, installing dc pp
[12:33] <robotgeek> jindiaz: did you "sudo apt-get update"
[12:34] <jindiaz> ummm noooo...  i tried that dc pp command, and it syas its unavilable
[12:34] <jindiaz> ok, ill try that ione as well
[12:34] <ryanakca> hmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots
[12:34] <ryanakca> any idea on how I could fix this...
[12:36] <jindiaz> hmmmm it seems the automatix poroblem is styll messed as well, this is whut i get, afte the update as well, when running that dc code
[12:37] <jindiaz> automatix: Depends: zenity but it is not going to be installed
[12:37] <jindiaz> and
[12:37] <jindiaz> dcgui: Depends: dctc (>= 0.85.8) but it is not going to be installed
[12:38] <jindiaz> crap i thought the automatix thing didnt work....
[12:38] <jindiaz> arggggggggggggh
[12:38] <jindiaz> lol
[12:40] <ryanakca> is it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?
[12:44] <jindiaz> omg... got th dc thing, still not woreking
[12:45] <supertijano> Has anybody tried AVG for Linux?
[12:46] <robotgeek> supertijano: why do you need an anitvirus?
[12:46] <supertijano> Why not?
[12:46] <kkathman> supertijano:  pssst...no known viruses for linux :)
[12:47] <supertijano> I heard there was three
[12:47] <jindiaz> argh.... anyone?? i just want to install dc....
[12:47] <kkathman> ohh well, by all means  please continue then :)
[12:47] <supertijano> I'm trying but it wont open. :P
[12:48] <jindiaz> ehy can i ask yu guys, are installers licenced?
[12:48] <kkathman> im not sure anyone can help you..cuz none of us run an AV
[12:48] <robotgeek> jindiaz: what won't run?
[12:48] <supertijano> Yeah I figured. I'm like hacker paranoid though.
[12:49] <jindiaz> like you know, double click, and apps install sorta deal
[12:49] <jindiaz> o, dc plus plus
[12:49] <NabZ> anyone know if its  possible to install metasploit framework   -   http://www.metasploit.com/projects/Framework/downloads.html
[12:49] <jindiaz> still same problem, just wont work...
[12:49] <jindiaz> tried the coee yu gave me
[12:49] <jindiaz> got the thing that made it not work installed
[12:49] <jindiaz> then still wont work
[12:49] <robotgeek> jindiaz: wont work isn't terribly useful to debug
[12:50] <jindiaz> hhahaha
[12:50] <jindiaz> hmmm ok,
[12:50] <jindiaz> man i dont knoe whut to tell yu
[12:50] <Hobbsee> NabZ: is there a source package on that site, or a deb?
[12:50] <NabZ> source i think
[12:50] <jindiaz> i out in the code yu gave me
[12:51] <jindiaz> then it said i needed  dcgui: Depends: dctc (>= 0.85.8) but it is not going to be installed
[12:51] <jindiaz> then i got that
[12:51] <jindiaz> and then tried the code again
[12:51] <jindiaz> and still wont work
[12:51] <jindiaz> the code yu gave me was....
[12:52] <jindiaz> sudo apt-get install dcgui
[12:52] <jindiaz> not code, but command i mean
[12:52] <ryanakca> hmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots
[12:52] <ryanakca> is it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?
[12:53] <robotgeek> jindiaz: did you install some other stuff from somewhere else?
[12:55] <jindiaz> yah, i tried that ummmm super pak i was talking to you abt earlier...
[12:55] <jindiaz> autmatix
[12:55] <robotgeek> jindiaz: did we not tell you not to install automatix?
[12:55] <jindiaz> yah i knoe
[12:55] <jindiaz> i thought it didnt work
[12:55] <jindiaz> because it qwaas missing the dependancy
[12:56] <jindiaz> becasue "zenity" wasent installed
[12:56] <ryanakca> anybody?
[12:56] <robotgeek> jindiaz: i don't know what the issue with your computer is
[12:57] <robotgeek> jindiaz: cause it has probably messed with your sources.list, which is exactly why i told you not to run it in the first place
[12:59] <jindiaz> hahahaha DAMN!  ummm ok i ran the uninstall command, but it says, Package automatix is not installed, so not removed
[01:00] <bzbb> if I don't use NTP, my clock drifts horribly, and if I turn it on, it locks my local timezone to UTC
[01:00] <Hysty> bzbb, you need to adjust your time offset
[01:00] <jindiaz> really no idea huh?
[01:00] <bzbb> Hysty: where do I do that?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> bzbb: cat /etc/timezone
[01:01] <Hobbsee> does it show the correct one?
[01:01] <jindiaz> so can anyone field the question i posed earlier?  are installers licenced or cost anything to use?
[01:01] <robotgeek> jindiaz: your best bet is to sudo aptitude install zenity
[01:01] <bzbb> yah
[01:01] <bzbb> america/new_york
[01:01] <Hobbsee> jindiaz: which installers
[01:01] <Hysty> hmm
[01:02] <robotgeek> jindiaz: then restore your sources.list from the backup one in /etc/apt/sources.list , and then "sudo apt-get remove automatix"
[01:02] <bzbb> and the KDE control module says UTC
[01:02] <jindiaz> any.  that install packages, much like how they do in windows.  you knoe download, and double clikc, installer comes up and once its done whatever it is is installed
[01:02] <bzbb> and the drop down box does nothing
[01:02] <Hobbsee> !tell jindiaz about apt-get
[01:02] <Hobbsee> see your private message
[01:02] <Hysty> bzbb, in System Settings?
[01:02] <bzbb> yeah
[01:02] <jindiaz> yah i see that
[01:02] <Hysty> bzbb, what happens if you change that?
[01:02] <jindiaz> i know about that
[01:03] <Hobbsee> bzbb: what are you running?  breezy?
[01:03] <jindiaz> but it is not error proof
[01:03] <jindiaz> shit always happens
[01:03] <bzbb> yes, breezy
[01:03] <jindiaz> so im just wondering
[01:03] <Hobbsee> jindiaz: then you should know that you use apt-get to install from the repositories, not from random sources on the web
[01:03] <Hobbsee> jindiaz: language
[01:03] <humboldt> why is kded using all my cpu resources?
[01:03] <humboldt> seems to stop when I stop "kat"
[01:03] <bzbb> it now says EST, but the clock is still wrong
[01:03] <Hysty> jindiaz, hence why automatix is unliked
[01:03] <bzbb> on the taskbar, but not in the control panel
[01:04] <jindiaz> yah i knowwwwwwwwwww that, but somethings should be in installers, FLAWLESS, jsut WORKS, installers
[01:04] <jindiaz> the basics primarily
[01:04] <robotgeek> jindiaz: it works very well, better than "installers"
[01:04] <jindiaz> no way, nooooooooo way
[01:04] <NabZ> how do you change the  Bootsplash?
[01:04] <_john> Hey guys any suggestions for opening an rtf doc in kubuntu office program? I get an error message Could not mount device.
[01:04] <jindiaz> dc plus plus would be installed if it was flawless
[01:04] <Hysty> bzbb, do you have 'Set Data and Time Automatically' selected?
[01:04] <Hysty> Date rather
[01:05] <jindiaz> i would have all my codecs, everything i need, if it was flwaless
[01:05] <bzbb> its off now
[01:05] <bzbb> turning it on caused this problem
[01:05] <jindiaz> argh, sorry just fruistrated
[01:06] <NabZ> anyone know how to change the boot screen? i found some cool ones on KDE-Look.org
[01:07] <Hobbsee> NabZ: there's a "how to install" link right where you found them
[01:07] <NabZ> o, lol
[01:07] <Hobbsee> it's to the right of the download link
[01:07] <Hobbsee> usually, at least :P
[01:07] <NabZ> ty :)
[01:07] <Hobbsee> no problems :)
[01:07] <NabZ> ahh cant see it
[01:07] <NabZ> lol
[01:07] <NabZ> is  it even possible on kubuntu?
[01:08] <NabZ> because its not on fedora
[01:08] <Hobbsee> !tell jindiaz about easyubuntu
[01:08] <Hysty> bzbb, if turning on the autotime is causing an incorrect time difference then the offset must be wrong
[01:08] <robotgeek_work> Hobbsee: no, not yet. will take too much work
[01:08] <Hobbsee> i think it is, but i've not tried it
[01:08] <NabZ> hmm, lol, wonder how its done
[01:08] <bzbb> if I cat it, its correct
[01:08] <Hobbsee> robotgeek_work: to which?  oh, the easy ubuntu?
[01:09] <bzbb> and when I launch the control panel, it changes the offset listed in the control panel, but not in /etc/timezone
[01:09] <bzbb> I'm just going to leave it off, and use the commandline
[01:09] <ryanakca> anybody???
[01:10] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: what's your question?  i missed it
[01:10] <robotgeek_work> bzbb: dual boot?
[01:10] <bzbb> nope
[01:10] <ryanakca> hmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots
[01:10] <ryanakca> is it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?
[01:10] <robotgeek_work> Hobbsee: pm :)
[01:11] <bzbb> robotgeek_work: I just noticed today that my clock had drifted 10 minutes fast, and turned on autoset
[01:11] <bzbb> and everything went to hell
[01:11] <robotgeek_work> hmm, no clue bzbb . sorry
[01:11] <NabZ> http://www.bootsplash.org/   <---  would that work with kubuntu?
[01:11] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: dont konw sorry
[01:11] <Hysty> bzbb, did it drift a certain amount after turning on autoset?
[01:12] <ryanakca> hobbsee: thanks anywais :)
[01:12] <bzbb> it went to the proper time, +5 hours
[01:12] <bzbb> and I live in UTC -5
[01:12] <NabZ> hey does kunbuntu meet these requirments? http://www.bootsplash.org/kernel.html
[01:12] <Hysty> which time server are you using?
[01:12] <robotgeek_work> ryanakca: maybe ask in #ubuntu ?
[01:13] <bzbb> north-america.pool.ntp.org
[01:13] <ryanakca> robotgeek_work: I thought ubuntu was gnome, kubuntu kde... anywais, I'll try :)
[01:13] <robotgeek_work> ryanakca: seems like a generic problem, be sure to mention the word generic :)
[01:14] <Hysty> and that time server is set to UTC?
[01:14] <bzbb> I have no clue
[01:14] <Hysty> cause it looks like to me if you set your offset as +0 in KDE it would be right
[01:15] <_luis> part
[01:15] <bzbb> date says  Fri Feb 17 00:15:12 UTC 2006
[01:15] <NabZ> hey guys. what does this error mean?
[01:15] <bzbb> which agrees with kde
[01:15] <NabZ> nabz@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install libbogl-dev
[01:15] <NabZ> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:15] <NabZ> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[01:15] <nalioth> NabZ: please don't paste in here
[01:15] <NabZ> sorry
[01:16] <nalioth> NabZ: it means to use sudo
[01:16] <NabZ> kk
[01:16] <NabZ> ty :)
[01:18] <bzbb> and fixed
[01:18] <bzbb> I used the gnome time-admin
[01:18] <Hobbsee> NabZ: type uname -r - then look at the requirements again
[01:18] <bzbb> and it fixed everything right up
[01:19] <NabZ> yeh sudo worked :)
[01:19] <NabZ> can someone gimmi a hand with this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:19] <NabZ> im not sure on step 2. where should my image be located?
[01:20] <Hysty> bzbb, i think the kde panel thing has some bugs, it just rooted up mine
[01:20] <bzbb> yeah, that would be the logical conclusion to draw here
[01:20] <andreas_3> hmm
[01:20] <NabZ> whats KDM ?
[01:20] <andreas_3> fish:/ seems broken in this update in dapper
[01:21] <Hysty> K Desktop Manager
[01:21] <andreas_3> try to copy file to a server and konqueror locks
[01:21] <NabZ> ahh ty :)
[01:21] <Hysty> NabZ, its what handles the login stuff
[01:21] <Hysty> NabZ, gdm for gnome
[01:21] <Hobbsee> NabZ: wherever you saved it
[01:22] <Nirvana> !amarok1.4beta1
[01:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nirvana
[01:22] <NabZ> kk ty
[01:24] <andreas_3> hm
[01:24] <Hysty> bzbb, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TimePrecision-HOWTO/set.html
[01:24] <andreas_3> now I tried starting a ftp:/ from the desktop, I ended up killing the desktop
[01:24] <andreas_3> I'm gonna try an dist-upgrade and a reboot
[01:25] <bzbb> well, I'm off
[01:25] <ryanakca> no avail with my login manager question in #ubuntu
[01:27] <Ahmuck> hi.  what kind of package management is available with kubunutu ?
[01:28] <admrl> ahmuck Debian
[01:28] <Ahmuck> dpkg ... apt ?
[01:28] <admrl> yep
[01:28] <Ahmuck> does kubuntu have a gui for package management ?
[01:28] <admrl> yes
[01:29] <Ahmuck> k, thx
[01:29] <Hobbsee> rofl - Ahmuck, adept
[01:30] <Ahmuck> ??
[01:30] <admrl> synaptic is better tho
[01:30] <admrl> adept is the name of the program
[01:30] <Hobbsee> i was laughing at admrl's response, just "yes" not what it actually was
[01:30] <jindiaz> AUTOMATIX RULESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[01:31] <jindiaz> omg... so happy... FINALLY
[01:31] <jindiaz> things WORK
[01:31] <jindiaz> :):):)):):):):):):):):)):):)
[01:31] <admrl> Hobbsee i didnt remember what it was i dont use it
[01:31] <admrl> i use synaptic
[01:31] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:32] <admrl> ya well we are takling about gui
[01:32] <Hobbsee> true
[01:32] <admrl> i use the command line more than the gui but he was asking about gui
[01:32] <Hobbsee> true
[01:32] <admrl> yep :)
[01:32] <treyh0> it's cool how kde is stable on kubuntu breezy (with the 3.5.1 packages) and it's broken to hell on debian sid with kde 3.5.1
[01:33] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[01:33] <Hobbsee> i wonder why thoguh!
[01:33] <admrl> anyone having problems with kompose
[01:39] <andreas_> a reboot was all it needed :)
[01:39] <Cyberwal83> god I love automatix :p
[01:42] <damnhil>  Does anyone succeed in recording a movie using xawtv or motv?
[01:44] <dumezil> i just installed kubuntu and my mouse if moving too fast.  ive gone to the mouse control panel and reduced the acceleration to 1.0x, but it still seems too fast.  ive got a laptop with a touch pad.  any ideas?
[01:45] <NabZ> how can u add more  styles?
[01:46] <_b> im trying to install opera but it cant be found ive added the universe multiverse thing and it worked for finding vlc. any ideas ?
[01:47] <HymnToLife> _b > have you run apt-get update ?
[01:47] <Hysty> dumezil, have you adjusted pointer threshold?
[01:48] <_b> yes ive run update
[01:48] <HymnToLife> oh yeah
[01:48] <HymnToLife> Opera is in the PFL repo
[01:48] <HymnToLife> wait, I'll find you a link
[01:48] <_b> thx whats pfl ?
[01:48] <dumezil> Hysty: i just tried and it didn't do anything
[01:49] <HymnToLife> Penguins Liberation Front :p
[01:49] <HymnToLife> pfl* in fact :p
[01:49] <HymnToLife> plf*
[01:49] <_b> lol :P
[01:49] <vge> _b:  download the deb file from the opera webpage?
[01:50] <HymnToLife> b_ > here you go
[01:50] <HymnToLife> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/opera/
[01:50] <_b> thx im on it
[01:52] <vge> darn i love kuake 0.4 <3
[01:52] <Parkotron> Is anywhere here still using KDE 3.4.* and if so, could I ask you a quick favour?
[01:53] <Hysty> dumezil, might have to search the forums for touchpad specifics
[01:55] <Hysty> hmmm totem is not playing my avi's
[01:56] <Ashex> I've installed Kubuntu to my external
[01:56] <Ashex> but when I boot up
[01:56] <Ashex> i don't have a gui
[01:56] <Parkotron> !enter
[01:56] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:56] <Ashex> Bah, okay
[01:56] <Nomad411> Hi all.. Anyone familiar with patch?  Can I reverse a patch I applied by doing it in reverse?  patch -p0 > file.patch?
[01:57] <Ashex> I've installed kubuntu to my external using a guide off ubuntu forums, However when booting up I don't have a gui interface to use.
[01:58] <Parkotron> ashex: You didn't HAVE to go all out and use capital letters and punctuation. Just avoid using up multiple lines to say one thing.
[01:58] <Parkotron> Can you log in on the console?
[01:58] <Ashex> Yeah
[01:59] <Parkotron> What happens if you type "startx"?
[02:01] <Ashex> I'll try that
[02:01] <Ashex> I gotta reboot to try it
[02:03] <Parkotron> It'll probably tell you why X fails to start. If it doesn't go looking through the log file it mentions.
[02:03] <Parkotron> Oh, and are you trying to boot it on the same computer you installed it on?
[02:06] <_john> Can anyone tell me how to access a rtf file from a dos formated floppy into kubuntu office?
[02:08] <Ashex> Parkotron: Yeah, this is the same computer. I just installed it to my external usb
[02:08] <Parkotron> I was thinking that if you switched to a computer with a different videocard, X would probably throw a fit.
[02:09] <Ashex> nope
[02:09] <Ashex> it's just an ati card in my laptop
[02:09] <Ashex> I had this issue before when attempting an ubuntu install
[02:09] <Parkotron> Have you ever installed Linux on the laptop itself?
[02:10] <_b> opera is now up n running thx for the help
[02:10] <Hostile> hey guys, I have an ATi x700 Pro, and it is way over kill for using 2d in linux, I was wondering if it would be possible for me to underclock it to save power?
[02:10] <Ashex> Yeah, I installed Ubuntu 5.1 to my laptop, had the same problem. that time I just got angry and deleted the partition.
[02:11] <Ashex> Then I spent a week dealing with Grub, it went ballistic because it couldn't find Ubuntu
[02:11] <_b> some gfx have high idle power consumtion
[02:12] <_b> u cant get away from that even if u underklock i think
[02:13] <_andy> heya can some1 tell me how to install nemesis ?
[02:14] <Hostile> _b: so you're saying I can't do it?
[02:14] <Hobbsee> !info nemesis
[02:14] <ubotu> nemesis: (TCP/IP Packet Injection Suite), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.32+1.4beta3-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[02:15] <Hobbsee> _andy: via apt-get?
[02:15] <_b> if u not gaming the card dosent consume as much power
[02:15] <_b> it has some power saving built in
[02:15] <_andy> yeah
[02:15] <_andy> apt-get
[02:15] <_b> underklocking only lower they peak power consumtion not the idle i guess
[02:15] <Hostile> ohh ok
[02:16] <_b> u can check out xbit labs
[02:16] <_b> to se how much u card drinks
[02:16] <_andy> nabz
[02:16] <_andy> :|
[02:16] <nabz> hey lol
[02:17] <_andy> u following me :@
[02:17] <nabz> trying to get metasploit to work lol
[02:17] <_andy> u installed it ?
[02:17] <nabz> downloaded n extracted it lol
[02:17] <_andy> oo
[02:17] <nabz> what now.. i dunno lol
[02:17] <_andy> nore me hahaha
[02:19] <supertijano> Have you guys ever played XBill?
[02:19] <nabz> nope
[02:19] <_andy> wut is it
[02:19] <supertijano> An awesome game
[02:19] <_andy> ooo
[02:19] <Hostile> _b: xbit labs?
[02:20] <_andy> na
[02:20] <Hostile> xbitlabs.com?
[02:20] <supertijano> I just started playing it, and can't stop. www.xbill.org
[02:20] <_b> yes some hardware site they usaly mesure power consumption
[02:20] <_b> or just google x700pro consumption
[02:20] <nabz> anyone know how to install metasploit framework? http://metasploit.com
[02:21] <_b> power consumption that is
[02:25] <ryanakca> hmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots
[02:25] <ryanakca> is it something wrong with the login manager itself or the config files or what?
[02:25] <__mikem> Hello
[02:27] <_andy>  can1 tell me how to install metaspolit framework ?
[02:28] <robotgeek> ryanakca: still same problems? :(
[02:29] <_andy> ?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> _andy: find the source for it, and build it, it doesnt look to be in the repos
[02:30] <nabz> build it?
[02:30] <_andy> ive download it...
[02:31] <mnoir> andy: their site has a nice user manual.  In English.  Explains how to install.  Just a theory - might be worth reading it...
[02:32] <_andy> i no, understand englih to good tho
[02:32] <mnoir> you could try the spanish one then...
[02:32] <nabz> lmao
[02:32] <__mikem> http://www.google.com/language_tools
[02:33] <__mikem> or you could try that
[02:33] <ryanakca> robotgeek: yes
[02:33] <_andy> im english...just cant red spel good
[02:33] <robotgeek> ryanakca: sorry mate, i dunno much about X stuff to help
[02:33] <__mikem> How old are you?
[02:33] <_andy> 17
[02:34] <__mikem> Then if you are english, how come you can't understand english well
[02:34] <_andy> if tha wut i think, i neva went skool
[02:34] <ryanakca> robotgeek: dont worry...
[02:35] <__mikem> I don't think I want to know any jmore
[02:35] <ryanakca> I'm just hoping to Xorg expert might have walked in since I last asked
[02:35] <nabz> lol!!
[02:36] <_andy> lmfao only messing with ya, i just cant be bothered to read there instructions
[02:36] <Hobbsee> if you cant be bothered to read the instructions, i dont think many people will bother to help you
[02:37] <_andy> lol u seen how big the manual is tho
[02:37] <__mikem> andy, why havn't you gone to school?
[02:37] <supertijano> Hahaha mikem
[02:37] <nabz> he was joking
[02:37] <nabz> lol
[02:38] <nabz> oo
[02:38] <nabz> i get it now
[02:38] <nabz> lmao
[02:38] <nabz> soz lil slow
[02:38] <Hobbsee> didnt look
[02:39] <supertijano> Andy was kidding that he didn't go to school mikem
[02:39] <_andy> :| soz lol
[02:39] <__mikem> I will just drop it right now
[02:39] <nabz> then create symbolic links from the msf* applications to a directory in the system path (/usr/local/bin)
[02:39] <nabz> what does that mean?
[02:39] <__mikem> Ironicly, I am doing my spanish homework as I do this
[02:39] <supertijano> Hahahahaha
[02:40] <supertijano> Maybe Andy will help you. ;)
[02:40] <_andy> lmao maybe ill just go run off hahaha
[02:40] <__mikem> lol
[02:40] <supertijano> Maybe..
[02:40] <nabz> lol
[02:40] <__mikem> I can't wait till the new ubuntu based Mepis comes out
[02:41] <supertijano> I've not heard of that yet
[02:41] <__mikem> I used to use Mepis before I discovered Ubuntu
[02:42] <__mikem> !Mepis
[02:42] <ubotu> __mikem: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:42] <supertijano> I don't know much about mepis.
[02:42] <mnoir> I used mepis too.  the project got messy
[02:42] <_andy> whats a symoblic link :-S
[02:43] <__mikem> There are only 17 guys total working on it, only one of which is actually a developer according to an artical I read
[02:43] <supertijano> Jeez.
[02:43] <mnoir> andy when a second name points to the same physical file
[02:43] <_andy> oh i c
[02:43] <_andy> ty
[02:45] <__mikem> I am currently using GNOME based ubuntu, to many issues with the way kubuntu-desktop is configured out of the box, and I have the kubuntu packages concurrently installed incase I feel like a change of pase
[02:45] <__mikem> It has everything I could ask for
[02:45] <_andy> kde looks better id say :
[02:45] <__mikem> don't really see why I need to be looking at mepis again other than out of morbid curiousity
[02:45] <__mikem> I like kde better also
[02:45] <_andy> :)
[02:46] <__mikem> But I don't like the configuration that kubuntu uses for kde
[02:46] <_andy> u guys no any good theme sites apart from kde-look ?
[02:46] <__mikem> nope, just that one
[02:46] <__mikem> just google kde
[02:46] <_andy> kk
[02:47] <ryanakca> __andy: I know of a very good site to make kde look like Mac
[02:47] <_andy> u got a link m8 ?
[02:48] <_andy> sounds kool :)
[02:48] <Hobbsee> kde-look.org search for baghera or mac, i think
[02:48] <Hobbsee> *baghira
[02:48] <ryanakca> just a second
[02:48] <_andy> kk ty
[02:48] <ryanakca> this is a whole howto
[02:48] <__mikem> I don't get what the big deal with xfce is, if I want a light wate gui, I have gnome
[02:48] <_andy> ooo
[02:48] <ryanakca> http://linuxgangster.org/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=15
[02:48] <__mikem> I thought that was what gnome was for anyway
[02:49] <_andy> thanks
[02:49] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  there is a baghira already compiled in the repos
[02:49] <ryanakca> yes
[02:49] <__mikem> !xfce
[02:49] <ubotu> methinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[02:49] <mnoir> i think xfce is a little prettier
[02:49] <Hobbsee> oh is it?
[02:49] <kkathman> yah
[02:49] <Hobbsee> cool
[02:49] <mnoir> but I run kde now
[02:49] <kkathman> so they can search using apt-cache
[02:50] <ryanakca> hmm.... I like kde over anything else
[02:50] <nabz> agreed
[02:50] <_andy> yeah
[02:50] <nabz> andy u got finish tht chal :@
[02:51] <__mikem> mnoir, when you say you think its pretier, pretier than what, gnome or kde
[02:51] <_andy> i done it
[02:51] <ryanakca> gnome, I understand, kde... never
[02:51] <nabz> theme
[02:51] <mnoir> gnome - I mean out of the box, minimal coding
[02:51] <_andy> u just gotta add the theme to phpbb
[02:51] <nabz> hey, anyone no how to download new themes for kde?
[02:51] <_andy> u said u was doing member
[02:51] <ryanakca> _andy: you read that howto for making kde look like mac?
[02:52] <mnoir> last time i worked hard on configging a wm was fvwm2
[02:52] <_andy> not yet im on the page tho
[02:52] <mnoir> too hard
[02:53] <__mikem> I suppose I can give xfce a shot
[02:53] <sonic> Hello? Anybody have any experience with xen?
[02:53] <_andy> brb
[02:54] <mnoir> i am just getting into it - got a problem - it seems to trigger screen locking in my kde session
[02:54] <nabz> anyone know how to change the boot  screen?
[02:54] <mnoir> and the lock won't unlock  :(
[02:54] <mnoir> so proceed slowly....
[02:55] <__mikem> Is it posible to have xfce installed alongside both kde and gnome
[02:55] <Hobbsee> mnoir: you can use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart from a terminal, but that will reset your session
[02:55] <Hobbsee> __mikem: yes, it is
[02:55] <__mikem> ok
[02:55] <mnoir> of course
[02:56] <mnoir> hobb - :) but I'd rather not - that is waaay to much like fixing Uncle Bill's systems :)
[02:56] <nabz> guyz. my clocks not showing in the taskbar :s
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hehe tru
[02:56] <Hobbsee> e
[02:56] <fit4lfe> installed dapper form breezy now my xwindows won't start
[02:57] <kkathman> nabz:  right click the kicker, add aplet to panel
[02:57] <fit4lfe> getting mouse error when I change to vesa too
[02:57] <nabz> ty i got it :)
[02:57] <ryanakca> bbl
[02:58] <__mikem> what display manager does xfce use
[02:59] <mnoir> will work with gdm, kdm
[02:59] <Psi-Jack> __mikem: XFCE doesn't use a display manager.
[02:59] <__mikem> shows you waht I know
[02:59] <mnoir> the xfce page splains how to install
[02:59] <__mikem> I am installing it right now I was just curious
[03:00] <__mikem> all done, with no errors
[03:00] <__mikem> lol
[03:02] <__mikem> darn, thats a shame
[03:02] <__mikem> lol
[03:02] <__mikem> nvm, that was a bad joke
[03:05] <nabz> hey, how do i install a .deb pacakge?
[03:05] <nabz> well screensaver lol
[03:05] <Psi-Jack> dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:06] <nabz> ty
[03:07] <__mikem> brb got to reboot to see of xfce works
[03:07] <mnoir> why not just start another session?
[03:07] <nabz> why do i keep  getting:
[03:07] <nabz> su: Authentication failure
[03:07] <nabz> Sorry.
[03:08] <nabz> but my pass is correct
[03:08] <kkathman> nabz root is not enabled in k/ubuntu
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> !amarok
[03:08] <ubotu> amarok is, like, totally, a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[03:08] <_andy> theres no root on ubutunu
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> !amarok1.4
[03:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond
[03:08] <kkathman> use sudo in front of your commands
[03:08] <hyperactivecrond> :\
[03:08] <nabz> so what can i do?
[03:09] <nabz> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[03:09] <hyperactivecrond> nabz: sudo dpkg -i baz
[03:09] <supertijano> sudo
[03:09] <kkathman> nabz   sudo dpkg......
[03:09] <hyperactivecrond> replace baz with the file u want to install
[03:09] <kkathman> !sudo
[03:09] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:09] <nabz> ty
[03:09] <hyperactivecrond> !tell nabz about rootsudo
[03:09] <nabz> ty
[03:09] <picoss> ! configure
[03:09] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, picoss
[03:09] <picoss> !configure
[03:09] <ubotu> picoss: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:10] <picoss> !compile
[03:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[03:10] <supertijano> Hahaha picos got hit by a windmill
[03:10] <nabz> is that all i need to do to install a screensaver?
[03:11] <supertijano> I would think so..
[03:11] <nabz> hmm its not in the configuration
[03:11] <nabz> nvm
[03:12] <nabz> it is. soz
[03:12] <bimberi> nabz: did you do the full install? (it includes a screensaver)
[03:12] <nabz> ty guyz :)
[03:12] <bimberi> nabz: ah, kk :)
[03:12] <hyperactivecrond> !msgthebot
[03:12] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:13] <picoss> can anybody reminds me what is the most important package to ionstall to be abble to compile on ubuntu ?
[03:13] <picoss> i m talking about something like defaut tools to compile
[03:13] <supertijano> apt-get make?
[03:13] <picoss> supertijano: no
[03:13] <supertijano> I don't know then
[03:14] <picoss> thx anyway
[03:14] <httpdss> picoss: build-essential
[03:14] <picoss> httpdss: thank you that s the one
[03:14] <supertijano> So why doesn't it come with make anyway?
[03:17] <httpdss> it comes with make
[03:17] <mnoir> super - it does on my system...
[03:17] <httpdss> Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.0), g++ (>= 4:4.0), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5)
[03:17] <supertijano> It didn't on mine :/
[03:18] <httpdss> :S
[03:18] <supertijano> Oh well, it's here now..
[03:18] <nabz> how  can i get the wastbin on desktop?
[03:19] <supertijano> Didn't you ask that earlier today?
[03:19] <nabz> nope
[03:19] <nabz> jus thought of it now lol
[03:19] <supertijano> Someone did.
[03:19] <nabz> mmm
[03:19] <supertijano> You right click on desktop and click create new location..
[03:19] <nabz> i see
[03:20] <supertijano> And the location was trash:/
[03:20] <supertijano> I think, if I remember right
[03:21] <nabz> :S
[03:21] <supertijano> That wasn't it?
[03:21] <nabz> it was but like dunno how to set it
[03:21] <nabz> i set work path to trash:/
[03:22] <nabz> could not launch trash:/
[03:22] <supertijano> Let me try it..
[03:22] <nabz> kk
[03:23] <supertijano> It seems to work fine for me
[03:23] <nabz> hmm
[03:24] <nabz> link to url?
[03:24] <nabz> or link to aplication
[03:24] <supertijano> url is trash:/
[03:24] <nabz> ah
[03:24] <nabz> got it
[03:24] <nabz> ty :)
[03:24] <supertijano> Okay?
[03:24] <nabz> yup
[03:24] <supertijano> You're welcome
[03:24] <nabz> :)
[03:24] <supertijano> Haha, I actually learned that today
[03:25] <nabz> lol
[03:25] <supertijano> I guess it came in handy. :D
[03:25] <nabz> yup
[03:26] <__mikem> well, xfce works quite well
[03:26] <nabz> im out guyz
[03:26] <supertijano> Bye
[03:26] <nabz> bye :) thanx for all the help
[03:27] <oddie> hello all
[03:28] <supertijano> Hi oddie
[03:28] <oddie> wats happenin
[03:28] <prospero2006> I've got dual monitors set up. Is three monitors possible?
[03:29] <supertijano> Why not? Haha
[03:29] <oddie> im sure it would be possible but im not sure how....might need to spend more money
[03:29] <_andy> i seen like 6 done :)
[03:30] <prospero2006> Nah, I've got spare cards and monitors
[03:30] <_andy> i dunno how it was actuallly done tho
[03:30] <oddie> haha
[03:30] <prospero2006> I have a bunch of pci monitor cards and like 4 spare 15 inch monitors. Didn't know if it was just a matter of adding them to xorg.conf
[03:31] <_andy> hey how come when i try copy something to /hda1/urs/local/ it says permission denied
[03:31] <prospero2006> chmod the directory
[03:31] <prospero2006> or sudo
[03:31] <Hobbsee_>  i left around 40 mins ago - if anyone's tried to message me within that time, then too bad...
[03:31] <prospero2006> or login as roto
[03:31] <prospero2006> root
[03:31] <_andy> so chmod    777 /hda1/usr/local
[03:32] <_andy> like that ?
[03:32] <prospero2006> I wouldn't recommend that
[03:32] <supertijano> That doesn't work too well on kubuntu ;)
[03:32] <oddie> does anyone know iff there is a way of connecting an xbox 360 to just a linux file server or is it only connectable through media center?
[03:32] <_andy> y not 777 ?
[03:33] <prospero2006> I remember once I did a chmod -r 777 / in slackware once
[03:33] <prospero2006> totally fucked it up
[03:33] <_andy> just for permissions :S
[03:34] <Hobbsee> prospero2006: language...
[03:34] <Hobbsee> i'll bet it did though hehe
[03:34] <_andy> wut shall i set it as ?
[03:34] <prospero2006> sorry about the language
[03:34] <prospero2006> How do I send private messages like that hobbe?
[03:34] <prospero2006> It even made my computer beep
[03:35] <prospero2006> I would login as root
[03:35] <bimberi> prospero2006: by including the nick on the line
[03:35] <prospero2006> give me an example bimb?
[03:35] <bimberi> prospero2006: i did :)
[03:35] <_andy> i dunno the root details...i just installed it and i thought it was root:root but it aint
[03:36] <supertijano> Hahahaha
[03:36] <prospero2006> edit /etc/kdm/kdmrc I think
[03:36] <prospero2006> Then you can login as root
[03:36] <prospero2006> do a search for root login in the kubuntu forums
[03:36] <prospero2006> easily found
[03:37] <Hobbsee> !root
[03:37] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:37] <prospero2006> It's good to know how to login as root though
[03:37] <Hobbsee> prospero2006: type Hob<tab> then type your message - it's not a private message
[03:37] <prospero2006> I think disabling it is bs
[03:37] <Hobbsee> works for any nick
[03:37] <prospero2006> Hobbsee:  test
[03:37] <hope> Perhaps this is the wrong place to ask this but here we go: I am currently working on a web (XHTML, SVG) based interface for the XMMS2 music backend. Its comming along so beautifully that I was wondering if an entire Unix destop enviorment can be done kinda like that. I was wondering if anyone knows of any relavent projects or research.
[03:37] <prospero2006> Hobbsee: that work
[03:38] <Hobbsee> it's useful - means that silly people cant log in as root and screw up their systems by accident
[03:38] <Hobbsee> prospero2006: indeed :)
[03:38] <_andy> ty
[03:38] <prospero2006> Coming from Slack, it really turned me off at first
[03:38] <prospero2006> I thought, 'screw this' I can't login as root.
[03:39] <JasonF> prospero2006: yes you can
[03:39] <oddie> so thats a no about the xbox ting
[03:39] <prospero2006> kubuntu is supreme. I know I can
[03:39] <JasonF> prospero2006: sudo su - or sudo passwd root
[03:39] <prospero2006> JasonF: You have to edit a config file for graphical root login
[03:39] <JasonF> oh, graphical root
[03:39] <JasonF> that's CRAZY
[03:39] <prospero2006> JasonF: I'm just saying at first it turned me off
[03:40] <prospero2006> JasonF: Why is that crazy?
[03:40] <JasonF> sounds like a great way to screw up your box
[03:40] <prospero2006> JasonF: Not if you know what you're doing
[03:40] <hupp3l> why is it so crazy to login to root?
[03:41] <prospero2006> JasonF: But, yes. One wrong move and you are toast
[03:41] <_andy> kk done the root password thing..how do i copy to that dir now
[03:41] <prospero2006> from terminal: Su root
[03:41] <prospero2006> cp *
[03:42] <prospero2006> root login can toast your system, but only if you are a dumb ass.
[03:42] <prospero2006> Also, you shouldn't run services as root
[03:45] <hatake_kakashi> as the old saying goes, 'You should never surf the web as root'
[03:46] <prospero2006> Ancient Chinese secret
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[03:47] <t3nd0> how do i list whats in dev ?
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> ls -l /dev
[03:48] <t3nd0> WHOA
[03:48] <t3nd0> how many ttyXX should there be
[03:48] <hupp3l> how does linux save programs? Is it just one folder or does it have something like registry entries and makes other folders?
[03:48] <t3nd0> i see HELLER
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: depends for distro, for this one, its deb, and dpkg --list will show you whats installed
[03:49] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> t3nd0: probably a fair bit
[03:49] <prospero2006> I just read an article on that today
[03:49] <t3nd0> arent those seperate instances of the command thing
[03:49] <prospero2006> It compared the windows registry system to apples one directory system to linux's system
[03:49] <_andy___> bak sorry got d/c
[03:49] <Psi-Jack> Well, I almost have a Lexmark Z600 Ubuntu package made and ready for testing/distribution. :)
[03:49] <prospero2006> Linux spreads shit around
[03:49] <prospero2006> sorry, language again
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> _andy___: yes alot of join/part.. I was thinking you were trying to flood
[03:50] <_andy___> sorry i aint used to irc
[03:50] <Psi-Jack> prospero2006: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and Debian, actually follow the FHS standards of organization.
[03:50] <hatake_kakashi> t3nd0: terminals, yes
[03:50] <prospero2006> Psi-Jack: I'm new to Debian. I am a Slack user
[03:51] <Psi-Jack> prospero2006: Slack follows the same standard.
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> Slack is different, I do not know if they have a package manager
[03:51] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: It does.
[03:51] <prospero2006> Psi-Jack: Seems like it
[03:51] <prospero2006> slack has package management
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: ahh ok
[03:51] <prospero2006> installpkg
[03:51] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: It's very similar to Solaris's *.pkg-style management. :)
[03:52] <Psi-Jack> Aka: painfully minimal.
[03:52] <hatake_kakashi> prospero2006: well if it does, it obviously has a place to store where you installed programs
[03:52] <prospero2006> Ubuntu's adept blew my mind
[03:52] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: heh
[03:52] <prospero2006> totally blew my mind
[03:52] <Psi-Jack> prospero2006: That's actually Kubuntu's Adept. Ubuntu uses Synaptic.
[03:52] <prospero2006> Psi-Jack: right.
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> there's also kynaptic, etc
[03:53] <Psi-Jack> Kynaptic? Oh geez.
[03:53] <prospero2006> Windows is going to release Vista in like 7 months
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> I've got both KDE and Gnome setup on my box here :)
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> prospero2006: don't hold your aims too high
[03:53] <Psi-Jack> prospero2006: And I will never run it.
[03:53] <prospero2006> I won't run Vista eitehr
[03:54] <prospero2006> Read several reviews. Seems unimpressive
[03:54] <supertijano> It's only for 64bit right?
[03:54] <prospero2006> Windows is a slug. Period
[03:54] <Psi-Jack> supertijano: Are you smoking crack again?
[03:54] <prospero2006> Vista will be backwards compatible
[03:54] <supertijano> Maybe a little
[03:54] <supertijano> Hahaha
[03:54] <hatake_kakashi> they said they will put in winfs yet they at the last few moments they pulled it out
[03:55] <hatake_kakashi> __mikem: hi
[03:55] <__mikem> hey
[03:55] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[03:55] <prospero2006> From what I've read, vista is just eye candy
[03:55] <__mikem> I just installed xfce and I like it
[03:55] <Psi-Jack> What's the package that has libstdc++5?
[03:55] <hupp3l> so does it install all files into deb?
[03:56] <_andy___> how can i copy something to /hda1/user/local after i fixed the root account
[03:56] <hatake_kakashi> prospero2006: I've also saw the screen shots, and I agree.. They also said that vista will have lower spec requirements depending on how much eyecandy you need. imo its all really just bs, rumors said that it requires fairly good graphics card and about 1GB of RAM (!)
[03:57] <prospero2006> yep
[03:57] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: deb is a packaged file, and dpkg is the place where it does the installing, etc
[03:57] <_andy___> windows xp is about the best but linux walks over em all
[03:57] <prospero2006> I've ditched windows completely at this point. Now I can play poker on linux
[03:58] <hupp3l> o ok. but usually in linux you have to compile the source first?
[03:58] <hatake_kakashi> _andy___: I will never touch xp, 2k was my last and dare I say best windows os it probably was yet it despised me
[03:58] <_andy___> lol
[03:58] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: you don't need to _unless_ if you really wanted to
[03:58] <_andy___> wut about running stuff like vb6 and paint shop etc
[03:58] <supertijano> I still have Windows. :/
[03:59] <Psi-Jack> hupp3l: Distributions like Gentoo, you literally compile /everything./ Which can take days, even weeks or months.
[03:59] <_andy___> thats the main reason i havent swaped both pcs to linux
[03:59] <prospero2006> It's good to be able to run windows, but I never do.
[03:59] <prospero2006> I have 2 pcs. Both dual boot
[03:59] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: depending on distros, gentoo kinda has this approach of getting sources and compiling it. There is very very minimal speed gain from doing so
[03:59] <Psi-Jack> _andy___: I run Windows 2000 inside of Linux, in a Window of it's own.
[03:59] <_b> can u do same thing with xp ?
[03:59] <_andy___> like vmware ?
[04:00] <Psi-Jack> _andy___: Exactly.
[04:00] <_andy___> i used to run knoppix-std in windows xp
[04:00] <hatake_kakashi> I will let windows run on my slower machines, I will never let windows touch my newer computers because they are nothing more than bloatware
[04:00] <hupp3l> so hatake what files do I download if I want to install a prog in linux?
[04:00] <prospero2006> linux runs vmware, but the last time I tried it it fuck me up
[04:00] <prospero2006> damn language
[04:00] <prospero2006> sorry
[04:00] <supertijano> Hahaha.. Niiiice
[04:00] <Psi-Jack> prospero2006: *sighs*
[04:00] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: usually you go through apt-get
[04:00] <_andy___> yeah vmware screwed my network settings up lol
[04:00] <Psi-Jack> prospero2006: Think, and  re-read before you hit enter from now on.
[04:01] <supertijano> Yeah right..
[04:01] <hupp3l> ok and how do I get the list of software from apt-get?
[04:01] <prospero2006> Psi-Jack: Sorry, Playing poker. I won't swear on this channel anymore. Just comes naturally.
[04:01] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: with kubuntu, you can also install .rpm packages (which are part of redhat packages) and if those fail you, you can always use the source and compile it
[04:01] <Psi-Jack> prospero2006: See that you don't.
[04:01] <prospero2006> Psi-Jack: You moderate?
[04:01] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: list what software? you installed or you want to install?
[04:02] <hupp3l> want to install
[04:02] <hupp3l> like if I want to install say xchat
[04:02] <supertijano> Psi_Jack accused me of doing crack. I doubt he's a mod.
[04:02] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: apt-cache search xchat
[04:02] <hupp3l> o ok
[04:02] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: btw that'
[04:02] <hupp3l> thank you
[04:02] <ice> I have dapper installed now but I can;t get kde to come on only xfce
[04:02] <ice> how do I fix this
[04:02] <_andy___> where can i get G++ from ?
[04:02] <hatake_kakashi> btw that's cmd line based, in kde there is are front-end ones such as kynaptic, adept, etc
[04:02] <Psi-Jack> supertijano: No no no., I asked if you were on crack, AGAIN. :)
[04:03] <prospero2006> If you insatll the gnome desktop package, how do you switch desktops?
[04:03] <supertijano> I'm sorry, I got it backwards.
[04:03] <bimberi> prospero2006: Sessions menu on the logon screen
[04:03] <hatake_kakashi> prospero2006: when you log out of KDE, and back onto kdm (the login page) there is a place called 'session' click on it and you will see the options available
[04:03] <supertijano> But you implied I was on it in the first place ;)
[04:03] <prospero2006> thanks
[04:04] <prospero2006> I'll have to install gnome. I haven't even looked at it
[04:04] <supertijano> You don't have to pro..
[04:04] <prospero2006> ?
[04:04] <_andy___> permission denied on /hda1/usr/local.....how can i put files in there without it telling me i cant
[04:04] <hatake_kakashi> supertijano: stop being pro-KDE
[04:05] <supertijano> Haha. Sorry, I just like KDE
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> _andy___: sudo
[04:05] <supertijano> it IS a Kubuntu forum after all, right?
[04:05] <_andy___> how tho lol
[04:05] <ice> can anyone help me
[04:05] <Psi-Jack> supertijano: No, This is a Kubuntu IRC channel.
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> ice: no idea, I'm not on dapper
[04:06] <prospero2006> Down with Gnome! Up with --uh- what rhymes with gnome?
[04:06] <supertijano> Oh man, What's wrong with me today?
[04:06] <hatake_kakashi> _andy___: sudo mv /source/foo /target/foo
[04:06] <supertijano> I'm like permenently stuck on blonde.
[04:06] <Psi-Jack> supertijano: *taps his foot and glares* I think we know. Now..
[04:06] <_andy___> ty
[04:06] <hatake_kakashi> _andy___: btw that's move not copy
[04:07] <supertijano> I'm ashamed of myself.
[04:07] <_andy___> its ok :)
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> _andy___: just a warning
[04:07] <_andy___> y :)
[04:08] <Coolio10> hi
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> _andy___: you don't want to make a mistake when you wanted a completely different command to do whatever you need
[04:08] <_b> anyone run enemy territory here ?
[04:09] <supertijano> Meaning?
[04:10] <_b> me ? its a game title
[04:10] <Ashex> Yay! More problems!
[04:10] <supertijano> Oh. No sorry
[04:10] <Ashex> Hookay, When I reboot and start loading Kubuntu, it freezes up while loading drivers.
[04:10] <JasonF> I can't get crossover office to install on ubuntu. It says I have to su to root instead of using sudo, but when I do, I get errors about the xserver being unavailable
[04:12] <_b> anyway its a free fps might whant to check it out runs on lesser hardware =Q3 engine
[04:12] <Coolio10> JasonF is your fxerver working fine?
[04:13] <JasonF> Coolio10: fxerver?
[04:13] <Coolio10> xserver
[04:13] <t3nd0> i dont have "get" command what do i use ????
[04:13] <JasonF> Coolio10: um, I'm in X right now
[04:13] <t3nd0> im trying to "get xmms-mp3 fpr debian"
[04:13] <t3nd0> so i can play mp3s
[04:14] <oddie> apt-get
[04:14] <oddie> ?
[04:14] <t3nd0> tendo@deftek:~$ apt-get xmms-mp3 fpr debian
[04:14] <t3nd0> E: Invalid operation xmms-m
[04:14] <Coolio10> have you tried it outside xserver?
[04:15] <JasonF> Coolio10: no, the installer requires X to run
[04:15] <JasonF> Setup requires an X display to run. There is a display variable set, however
[04:15] <JasonF> you have no permissions to access the X server (:0) it points to.
[04:15] <JasonF> that's the error I get, at least the verbose one
[04:18] <t3nd0> Please check that: Your sound card is configured properly; You have the correct output plugin :*(
[04:21] <Psi-Jack> !seveas
[04:21] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:21] <oddie> JasonF: are u instaling from command?
[04:21] <supertijano> !blonde
[04:21] <ubotu> supertijano: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:21] <supertijano> Hahahaha I just wanted to do that
[04:21] <JasonF> oddie: nevermind, I got it
[04:22] <oddie> no worries
[04:22] <oddie> you can run 'sudo screen'
[04:22] <oddie> that will run a terminal as root
[04:23] <JasonF> oddie: the problem is more than that, if you'll read further
[04:23] <oddie> JasonF: yer sorry :(
[04:25] <_andy___> i still cant move this folder
[04:25] <_andy___> :-S
[04:25] <supertijano> What have you tried so far?
[04:25] <_andy___> mv
[04:26] <supertijano> And you're logged in as root now?
[04:26] <_andy___> no when i go to login screen it says root isnt allowed but i activated it like u said
[04:26] <_andy___> or some1 else said lol
[04:27] <supertijano> Do you have the folder open in Konqueror?
[04:27] <robotgeek> _andy___: why are you logged in as root??
[04:27] <_andy___> im not
[04:27] <supertijano> He can't
[04:27] <_andy___> nope folder wasnt open
[04:27] <stupendo44> OK, I seriously need help. Before it was just an annoyance, but not it's gotten to be a problem. A couple weeks ago, whenever I started Kubuntu (rare restart) it would load a couple instances of SpeedCrunch. Since yesterday, it now loads about 50 SpeedCrunchs. Is there any way to clear out this session that it's trying to restore? How can I debug this?
[04:27] <_andy___> it says the file doesnt exist
[04:28] <supertijano> DId you do sudo mv?
[04:28] <_andy___> yeah
[04:28] <supertijano> What directory is it?
[04:28] <_andy___> the folder i want to move is in /hda1/home/andy/msf
[04:28] <supertijano> Well, I don't know, maybe you should try cp and then delete the first one?
[04:28] <_andy___> and i want to put it in /hda1/usr/local/
[04:29] <t3nd0> how do i get mplayer ?
[04:30] <oddie> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:31] <brexel> morning :)
[04:31] <__mikem> morning?
[04:31] <oddie> morning brexel
[04:31] <t3nd0> hrm doesnt werk
[04:31] <__mikem> its 1030 where I am
[04:31] <brexel> 04:31 here :)
[04:31] <__mikem> where do you live?
[04:31] <oddie> t3nd0: wats it say?
[04:31] <__mikem> china
[04:31] <brexel> austria
[04:32] <_andy___> wtf shit still aint working GRRRRR
[04:32] <oddie> 13:34 here
[04:32] <__mikem> oh
[04:32] <_andy___> sorry about lang
[04:32] <t3nd0> http://pastebin.com/558949
[04:32] <t3nd0> man copy paste sucks in linux :/
[04:32] <brexel> a real surprise would be 10:15 or so :D
[04:32] <stupendo44> t3nd0: different, not bad
[04:32] <__mikem> nothing sucks in linux
[04:32] <T3hWiz0rd> __mikem: don't overglorify. linux has many improvements to make
[04:33] <brexel> T3hWiz0rd: i just wanted to say something like that
[04:33] <T3hWiz0rd> brexel: haha
[04:33] <t3nd0> copy paste sucks sorry to burst the bubble
[04:33] <T3hWiz0rd> t3nd0: keep "klipper" open
[04:33] <robotgeek> t3nd0: not if you use klipper :)
[04:33] <brexel> copy paste?!
[04:33] <brexel> that's like the thing i like most in kde :D
[04:34] <__mikem> I know, I was being humerous
[04:34] <t3nd0> klipper is hella on
[04:34] <brexel> haha
[04:34] <brexel> sry
[04:34] <brexel> didn't get that
[04:34] <t3nd0> still misses control-c sometimes
[04:34] <brexel> <-- wasted
[04:34] <T3hWiz0rd> t3nd0: if klipper was "hella on" you'd be "hella pasting"
[04:34] <supertijano> hahaha
[04:34] <t3nd0> i just hella pasted
[04:34] <t3nd0> but i had to do it twice
[04:34] <t3nd0> :D
[04:34] <supertijano> Hence the hella
[04:35] <T3hWiz0rd> just to emphisize the stress (spelling?)
[04:35] <__mikem> Spelling is for people who have spare time
[04:36] <T3hWiz0rd> __mikem: your philosophies scare me...
[04:36] <__mikem> lol
[04:36] <T3hWiz0rd> whats next?
[04:36] <brexel> spelling is for people who have ispell
[04:36] <__mikem> lmao
[04:36] <T3hWiz0rd> "paying attention to what you are doing while driving is for LOSERS!!" BUAHAHAHA!
[04:36] <supertijano> Hahaha
[04:36] <t3nd0> dudes please help me get my sound working its been like a week without music.  thats heller not fly.  I read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76788 which says that my soundcard: Maudio 1010LT works on the initial install with esd.  but it is mos definately NOT working :(
[04:36] <t3nd0> i've tried installing a bunch of apps: xmms, vlc, msound, etc and none of it will play sound
[04:36] <__mikem> Commenting your code is for the weak and timid
[04:36] <T3hWiz0rd> okay t3nd0... do you have more than one sound output device? like an onboard + a pci sound card?
[04:37] <t3nd0> yes
[04:37] <t3nd0> and in kmixer i have "maudio" selected
[04:37] <supertijano> Haha, this is going overboard.
[04:37] <T3hWiz0rd> t3nd0: turn off the on-board in your bios configuration.
[04:37] <robotgeek> __mikem: famous last words :)
[04:37] <__mikem> lol
[04:37] <__mikem> especially in assembly language
[04:37] <t3nd0> really?
[04:37] <t3nd0> why is that necessary
[04:37] <T3hWiz0rd> t3nd0: iunno, there is another way, but its not as easy.
[04:38] <t3nd0> ugh.  ok brb
[04:38] <__mikem> I had no problem getting my sound to work, but there were a lot of packages to download, I still don't remember all of them, so its going to be the same adventure when I upgrade
[04:39] <supertijano> I've always wondered.. how do change the message when you leave?
[04:39] <_b> does anyone run via epia ? is there some tweaks i shud know about ?
[04:39] <__mikem> ive always wondered, when you close the refrigerator door, does the little light stay on?
[04:39] <supertijano> It does not
[04:39] <__mikem> lol i Know
[04:39] <supertijano> Haha I know
[04:39] <brexel> hahaha
[04:39] <supertijano> But I know for sure. ;)
[04:39] <brexel> ^^
[04:40] <supertijano> My dad taught me a valuable lesson when I was 8
[04:40] <__mikem> do tell
[04:40] <supertijano> I was talking about the refrigerator. Haha
[04:41] <T3hWiz0rd> __mikem: i have two output devices... suse functions fine with both, but kubuntu seems to get itself confused.
[04:41] <__mikem> well, what do you want me to do about it
[04:41] <_andy___> how u chmod so its 777
[04:42] <supertijano> He told me there was this guy who drilled a hole in the 'frige to see whether the light went off.
[04:42] <__mikem> lol enough with the frig, your killing me
[04:42] <kkathman> _andy___:  sudo chmod 777 <file>
[04:42] <supertijano> Sorry.
[04:42] <__mikem> jk
[04:42] <supertijano> I'm done anyway
[04:42] <_andy___> kk ty
[04:43] <kkathman> _andy___:  for use of any command....try   man  <command>  in a konsole
[04:43] <tendo> ok so when i restarted i heard some like "startup" noises that i'd never heard before
[04:43] <_andy___> ohhh ty :)
[04:43] <__mikem> WHich is better xfce or gnome
[04:43] <_andy___> shit
[04:43] <tendo> xmms still won't play audio though
[04:44] <_andy___> now i cant access /usr/local
[04:44] <_andy___> :-S
[04:45] <_andy___> arh fixed
[04:45] <brexel> _andy___: you know 777 is usually bad?
[04:45] <_andy___> y ?
[04:45] <supertijano> I thought it was 666?
[04:45] <oddie> lol
[04:45] <__mikem> no, thats the devil
[04:45] <brexel> because it allows EVERYONE to change/execute the file
[04:45] <_andy___> 777 is allow all aint it
[04:45] <supertijano> which is bad...
[04:46] <_andy___> ooo lol
[04:46] <brexel> your files should be 644
[04:46] <_andy___> wut shall i set it as then ?
[04:46] <__mikem> andy I think he was talking to me
[04:46] <brexel> abd your dirs should be 755
[04:46] <_andy___> kk ty
[04:46] <brexel> dunno, :D
[04:47] <t3nd0> ok so i restarted and heard some startup noises (for the first time), how come xmms, vlc, etc won't play sound
[04:48] <_andy___> how do i create sybolic links to a path :-S
[04:48] <brexel> _andy___: ln -s
[04:49] <_andy___> dunt get it ?
[04:49] <brexel> ln -s /path/from path/to
[04:49] <brexel> ln -s /path/from /path/to
[04:49] <brexel> :)
[04:49] <_andy___> :) ty
[04:50] <brexel> t3nd0: try lsof | grep dsp
[04:50] <brexel> check which program is sitting on your soundcard
[04:50] <brexel> if it is artsd for example
[04:51] <brexel> you need to tell xmms to use the artsdsp output plugin in its prefs
[04:51] <fascinated> hey, everyone
[04:52] <supertijano> Hello
[04:52] <oddie> i also have sound problems but i think mine is user error....
[04:52] <t3nd0> can anyone tell me what this sound error means ??? please http://www.deftek.net/gallery/albums/userpics/sound.jpg
[04:54] <brexel> [04:50]  <brexel> t3nd0: try lsof | grep dsp
[04:54] <brexel> something is sitting on your soundcard blocking it
[04:54] <t3nd0> http://pastebin.com/558979
[04:54] <_andy___> g2g tc ppl, thanks for all the help
[04:54] <_andy___> bye
[04:55] <supertijano> bye
[04:55] <supertijano> ... or not.
[04:55] <_b> whats a god firewall for kde ? i like the keiro/sunbelt gui and display of connections in xp
[04:56] <oddie> multiple sounds with an nfource card can not be done?
[04:56] <stupendo44> _b: what do you mean by "god firewall"
[04:56] <stupendo44> ooooooohhhhhhhh
[04:57] <stupendo44> nm
[04:57] <brexel> haha
[04:57] <brexel> :)
[04:57] <supertijano> Haha
[04:57] <_b> ? :)
[04:57] <stupendo44> internal spellchecker was off
[04:57] <supertijano> I though you were being sarcastic.
[04:57] <stupendo44> now that that's fixed...
[04:57] <fascinated> sarcasm on irc? never
[04:57] <brexel> xD
[04:57] <supertijano> Hahaha
[04:57] <__mikem> I can't get KSayIt to start
[04:58] <__mikem> please help
[04:58] <fascinated> everyone's so polite and friendly
[04:58] <oddie> ok so thats a no from everyone? multiple programs can not use the sound card at the same time?
[04:58] <brexel> oddie: yes they can
[04:58] <supertijano> I guess not.
[04:58] <brexel> of course
[04:58] <brexel> you need to use a sound server
[04:58] <supertijano> Hahaha Just ignore me
[04:58] <brexel> like artsd
[04:58] <stupendo44> _b: I like to use KMyFirewall, which is a frontend to configure IPTables
[04:58] <brexel> or esd
[04:58] <oddie> brexel: so its user error....
[04:58] <sniff> hey peeps
[04:58] <stupendo44> _b: it makes it fairly easy to configure ports and stuff
[04:58] <brexel> oddie: maybe your cfg is just not correct ^^
[04:58] <sniff> i'm back to help any n00bs who are more n00b than me!
[04:59] <_b> thx ill give it a look
[04:59] <stupendo44> too bad nobody can help me.....  *whimpers*
[04:59] <fascinated> what did you need help with stupendo?
[04:59] <brexel> stupendo44: what was your prob again?
[04:59] <brexel> hehehe
[04:59] <oddie> brexel: i have followed many tutorial.......I can get sound from gstream...so i can play music and watch movies.....
[04:59] <stupendo44> OK, I seriously need help. Before it was just an annoyance, but not it's gotten to be a problem. A couple weeks ago, whenever I started Kubuntu (rare restart) it would load a couple instances of SpeedCrunch. Since yesterday, it now loads about 50 SpeedCrunchs. Is there any way to clear out this session that it's trying to restore? How can I debug this?
[04:59] <brexel> #kubuntu is so nice :)
[04:59] <__mikem> I can't get KSayIt to start help please
[04:59] <oddie> brexel: but not play music and play games
[05:00] <brexel> oddie: yes it works
[05:00] <brexel> oddie: start the game with `artsdsp game`
[05:00] <oddie> hhmmm...
[05:00] <oddie> brexel: wat if its cedega....
[05:01] <__mikem> !KSayIt
[05:01] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, __mikem
[05:01] <brexel> brexel: not sure if cedega can be run with artsdsp...you might wanna check the cedega forums
[05:01] <__mikem> I need help with KSayIt
[05:01] <brexel> oddie: i meant u :) not myself
[05:02] <fascinated> stupendo : that speedcrunch tool looks handy
[05:02] <brexel> stupendo44: in the worst case you can rm -rf ~/.kde but that will delete all your kde settings. i would recommend going into .kde and searching for the program that is started too often
[05:02] <brexel> stupendo44: like grep -iR speedcrunch .kde/
[05:03] <stupendo44> brexel: isn't there a certain place things are when they are set to start? Like a "startup" firectory?
[05:03] <brexel> stupendo44: yes, in .kde/Autostart
[05:03] <__mikem> I need help with KSayIt, Please help
[05:03] <brexel> but kde also remembers what you had open when you log out somewhere else
[05:03] <brexel> __mikem: i think i tried that program once and it just died with a segfault
[05:04] <stupendo44> brexel: and where are those saved. I think that session thing is my problem
[05:04] <brexel> __mikem: == programming error
[05:04] <brexel> [05:02]  <brexel> stupendo44: like grep -iR speedcrunch .kde/
[05:04] <__mikem> brexel kttsmgr doesn't work either
[05:04] <brexel> __mikem: dunno that program sry ^^
[05:05] <stupendo44> I did that. It found something in .kde/share/config/kickerrc
[05:05] <FunnyLookinHat> What sources.list file do I edit for kubuntu??
[05:05] <brexel> stupendo44: kickerrc is thye config of the task bar
[05:05] <fascinated> i'm starting to love kdevelop
[05:06] <stupendo44> brexel: here's the output of grep: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/558992
[05:07] <brexel> i would try to rename .kde/share/config/kickerrc and see what it does :)
[05:08] <brexel> you can rename it back if it doesn't help
[05:08] <stupendo44> right
[05:08] <dsl1008> hey
[05:08] <stupendo44> brexel: will it create a new one
[05:08] <Ashex> I've got yet another problem
[05:09] <FunnyLookinHat> Crappit all
[05:09] <Ashex> I can't get X to load, startx doesn't work
[05:09] <Ashex> so I've booted off my thumbdrive so I can view the log and use irc
[05:09] <Ashex> however
[05:09] <Ashex> I haven't a clue how to open it from dsl
[05:09] <stupendo44> brexel: ok, trying a reboot now. Will be back
[05:10] <brexel> alright :)
[05:10] <brexel> relogin should be enough though
[05:10] <stupendo44> right
[05:10] <Ashex> how do I open a file on another partition?
[05:11] <Ashex> little help?
[05:11] <stupendo44> brexel: ok, that fixed it. Obviously my kicker is reset back. Can we figure out what in kickerrc is the problem?
[05:12] <stupendo44> brexel: actually, before we do that, I want to see if it will break again if I put the kickerrc back
[05:12] <brexel> just open the file with a text editor and try to figure it out ^^
[05:12] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: if the partition is mounted, you need to change to that directory so you can then open it
[05:12] <Ashex> whats the command in bash to change drives?
[05:12] <hatake_kakashi> cd
[05:12] <stupendo44> Ashex: what do you mean "change"
[05:12] <Ashex> lemme rephrase
[05:12] <Ashex> how do I get to sda5
[05:13] <Ashex> cd sda5 wouldn't work
[05:13] <hatake_kakashi> where is sda5 mounted to? mnt or media
[05:13] <brexel> Ashex: you need to mount it somewhere
[05:13] <hatake_kakashi> mount| grep sda5
[05:13] <Ashex> sweet
[05:14] <Ashex> that's what I needed, it's in /mnt/sda7
[05:14] <sniff> ph yeah
[05:14] <Ashex> Now to find that error log....
[05:14] <stupendo44> brexel: it's in the [menu]  section in kickerrc, under an entry called 'RecentAppsStat'
[05:14] <sniff> how might one go about decrypting received mail in kontact|?
[05:14] <brexel> :) great
[05:14] <Ashex> what's the most likely place for the X error log to be?
[05:15] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: your home directory
[05:15] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: only if kontact supports encrypted mail, check under help
[05:15] <stupendo44> brexel: are you familiar with that section?
[05:15] <brexel> stupendo44: no sry i never edited that file before ^^
[05:15] <stupendo44> brexel: ok
[05:16] <stupendo44> brexel: thanks for your help
[05:16] <brexel> yw :)
[05:16] <sniff> hatake_kakashi: it does! it lets me send encrypted and signed email, but when i receive one it doesn't ask me to provide a passeword so I cannot read it
[05:17] <Ashex> nope, it's not in that directory
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: well check under help file
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: its a hidden file. the file has . in front of it
[05:17] <sniff> hatake_kakashi: er.. thanks, my help files don't work
[05:18] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: blah, well I don't use kontact
[05:18] <sniff> sf Psi-Jack said it's a glitch
[05:18] <sniff> hatake_kakashi: your help doesn't work?
[05:18] <Ashex> how would I get it to display a hidden file?
[05:18] <Psi-Jack> Hmm?
[05:18] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I can't see it nor do I use the program
[05:19] <sniff> kde help and indexing doesn't work
[05:19] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: ls -al
[05:19] <Psi-Jack> sniff: apt-get install htdig
[05:19] <sniff> what is this?
[05:19] <Psi-Jack> Indexing will suddenly work. :)
[05:19] <sniff> that's nice of them to include it
[05:19] <sniff> couldn't possibly be in the default install could it>
[05:19] <Psi-Jack> it's technically not ... necessary. just annoying not to include it.
[05:20] <sniff> Psi-Jack: do you use kontact?
[05:20] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Rarely.
[05:20] <sniff> Psi-Jack: would you happen to know how to get it to decrypt received email?>
[05:21] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I can find out real quick if you send me a signed email to erenfro@gmail.com
[05:21] <Ashex> i don't see the error
[05:21] <Ashex> er, I don't see the error log
[05:21] <sniff> Psi-Jack: not encrypted email?
[05:21] <Psi-Jack> sniff: You can't encrypt to me yet. I'm initiating the keypair trade. ;)
[05:21] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: you have to be konsole/terminal to do so
[05:22] <Ashex> I'm using bash
[05:22] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Basically, you send me a signed message, I'll send one back, and we'll have each others signatures. I think.. :)
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: its .xsession-errors :p
[05:22] <sniff> er
[05:24] <sniff> Psi-Jack: as far as i know it's done
[05:24] <Ashex> when I do ls -al in /mnt/sda7/home it displays "." ".." and "ashex"
[05:24] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: it would be under /mnt/sda7/home/ashex
[05:24] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[05:25] <sniff> Psi-Jack: this new version of kontact won't let me mark messages as spam - what the deal?
[05:25] <Psi-Jack> sniff: You have to get bogofilter, and/or spamassassin.
[05:25] <Ashex> all I see is .Xauthority
[05:25] <Ashex> but I think I found it in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:26] <sniff> Psi-Jack: spam assassin is installed and configured
[05:26] <sniff> Psi-Jack: also when i compose a message i've lost the little tick boxes at the bottom that let me choose to encrypt/sign or compress
[05:26] <Ashex> Hookay, I've got a massive amount of errors
[05:27] <sniff> Psi-Jack: ah sorry forget the latter please
[05:27] <Psi-Jack> heh
[05:27] <sniff> Psi-Jack: send me an email with you public key
[05:27] <Psi-Jack> Trying to figure out how to import your sig. :/
[05:27] <Ashex> how do I copy text from Bash?
[05:28] <sniff> why do you want to import my sig?
[05:28] <sniff> you need my public key.. no?
[05:28] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Yes. your public key.
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: you can't if you're on a real terminal :P do it in konsole/terminal
[05:28] <brexel> Ashex: ctrl+w to cut, ctrl+y to paste
[05:28] <Psi-Jack> Which, is supposed to be in your signature. heh
[05:28] <Psi-Jack> Maybe I'm just messed up. LOL
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: from a proper tty?
[05:29] <brexel> yes
[05:29] <brexel> man bash :)
[05:29] <brexel> bash uses emacs keys by default
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: and I wonder how is one supposed to cut if there is no mouse cursor on tty
[05:30] <brexel> you can also make it use vi keys
[05:30] <Psi-Jack> brexel: Since when?
[05:30] <brexel> hatake_kakashi: have you read man bash already?
[05:30] <brexel> Psi-Jack: forever
[05:30] <Psi-Jack> bash has nothing, and I mean /nothing/ to do with emacs.
[05:30] <brexel> Psi-Jack: that is wrong
[05:30] <brexel> it uses the emacs shortcuts
[05:31] <Psi-Jack> brexel: Or rather, does emacs use bash shortcuts, or korn shortcuts? :}
[05:31] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i still don't have any option to manually mark messages as spam
[05:31] <brexel> Psi-Jack: just take a look at man bash and you will learn that bash explicitly uses the same shortcuts as emacs
[05:31] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Have you figured out how to import my key from the mail I sent?
[05:32] <sniff> i haven't receive your mail yet - lol
[05:32] <Psi-Jack> brexel: Which came first. bash or emacs? :)
[05:32] <brexel> what does that have to do with anything?
[05:32] <brexel> RTFM
[05:32] <brexel> READLINE
[05:32] <brexel>        This is the library that handles reading input when using an interactive shell,  unless  the  --noediting
[05:32] <brexel>        option  is  given  at  shell  invocation.   By default, the line editing commands are similar to those of
[05:32] <brexel>        emacs.  A vi-style line editing interface is also available.  To turn off line editing after the shell is
[05:32] <brexel>        running, use the +o emacs or +o vi options to the set builtin (see SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS below).
[05:33] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. OKay. I'm just totally running in the wrong direction.
[05:33] <brexel> it doesn't matter what was first does it? :)
[05:34] <oddie> egg was first!!!!!!!!!!
[05:34] <brexel> no the cock
[05:34] <brexel> uhm
[05:34] <brexel> ..
[05:34] <oddie> lol
[05:34] <fascinated> nice
[05:34] <brexel> this world is too complicated
[05:35] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: which version of bash are you on?
[05:35] <brexel> ~ $ echo $BASH_VERSION
[05:35] <brexel> 3.00.16(1)-release
[05:35] <hatake_kakashi> hm
[05:36] <brexel> Psi-Jack: sorry if i was rude before ^^
[05:37] <sniff> !repos
[05:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:37] <sniff> !sources
[05:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:37] <Psi-Jack> sniff: It's okay. I sent you my key. LOl
[05:37] <sniff> !easysource
[05:37] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:37] <sniff> ah
[05:37] <sniff> thank you ubotu
[05:38] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i'm still waiting for it to arrive
[05:38] <Ashex> Hookay
[05:38] <Ashex> I've got this error when trying to load X: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/559017
[05:40] <Ashex> any ideas?
[05:40] <sniff> sorry mate, i fon
[05:40] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Then after that, you will get an encrypted email. ;)
[05:40] <sniff> i don't even know what x is
[05:40] <sniff> :)
[05:41] <Psi-Jack> X is what you are using right now, to be in KDE.
[05:41] <Ashex> X is the gui interface for Kubuntu :p
[05:41] <sniff> i already sent myself encryped emails
[05:41] <Psi-Jack> Ashex: Bzz. Incorrect.
[05:41] <Ashex> I tried :/
[05:41] <sniff> i thought x was a letter on my keyboard ;)
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> !Xorg
[05:41] <ubotu> well, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> !X
[05:41] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:42] <Psi-Jack> ubotu: X is a portable, network-transparent window system.
[05:42] <ubotu> okay, Psi-Jack
[05:42] <Psi-Jack> There. :p
[05:42] <Psi-Jack> !X
[05:42] <ubotu> hmm... x is a portable, network-transparent window system.
[05:42] <sniff> anyone used Matthias Klose repos for updating oo.o?
[05:43] <Ashex> any idea?
[05:43] <sniff> i mean is it "safe"?
[05:43] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Anyway, do you have bogofilter, or just spamassassin?
[05:43] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I /only/ use official repos for main things. I remove /all/ others when not specifically using them
[05:44] <Ashex> so I guess I'm screwed with X?
[05:45] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: no, just ask on the forum
[05:45] <Ashex> Hookay
[05:45] <Ashex> ubuntuforums.com?
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: I can't open up websites because I don't have lynx/etc installed and on my Xorg window, its on failsafe, and is updating through shaped connection. Also I got a hangover, go figure
[05:46] <brexel> lol hatake_kakashi
[05:46] <brexel> i'm gonna have one tomorrow :D
[05:46] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Regarding encrypting emails. This is the reason I did the whole keypair trading with you, to demonstrate. You have to have the other person's key to encrypt it to, basically. You basically encrypt it, encoded to THEIR key, so they can decrypt it. :)
[05:47] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: trust me, it feels very awkward to be in hangover :S
[05:47] <Ashex> hatake_kakashi, just don't listen to loud music then :p
[05:47] <brexel> hatake_kakashi: i know i've been drinking for 6 days now :D
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> Ashex: I don't have any loud music on.. and if some idiot is playing loud music that I can hear.. trust me, I will roar like hell
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: blah
[05:48] <brexel> ?
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: so you are drunk and you have hangover whilst on IRC?
[05:48] <brexel> yes
[05:49] <sniff> Psi-Jack: yeah, thanks
[05:49] <brexel> is that unusual? XD
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> bleh, I cbf doing that, I'd be like literally restless
[05:49] <sniff> Psi-Jack: but i mean i encrypted and email to myself and sent it to myself
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> in fact I can't sleep well with this stupid hangover
[05:49] <brexel> drink something ^^
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: drank water, no use
[05:49] <brexel> beer i meant
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> in fact.. large amounts
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> lmao
[05:50] <brexel> repairbeer ^^
[05:50] <sniff> !beer
[05:50] <brexel> :D
[05:50] <sniff> !hangover
[05:50] <ubotu> sniff: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:50] <sniff> mmm
[05:50] <sniff> my fave beer
[05:51] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i have spam assassin installed and configured in kontact
[05:51] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i went through the setup this mornign
[05:51] <sniff> morning
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: you know about Frangelico? that liqueor? my flatmate and I drank literally half yesterday in my timezone
[05:51] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I don't think spamassasin alone will let you flag mail as spam/ham, in kmail. That's what bogofilter is for, I believe.. .. I could be wrong, but I used only bogofilter on mine. ;)
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> err one bottle, half each
[05:52] <sniff> Psi-Jack: what email client do you use?
[05:52] <brexel> hatake_kakashi: no never heard of that...i don't drink schnaps stuff. i only drink beer or wine very rarely
[05:52] <Psi-Jack> sniff: kmail
[05:52] <sniff> Psi-Jack: so that's the same as kontact
[05:52] <Psi-Jack> Yes
[05:52] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i thought you said you didn't use it
[05:52] <sniff> hm
[05:53] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I don't use kontact. You didn't ask if I used kmail. ;)
[05:53] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i sent you an encrypted email
[05:53] <sniff> Psi-Jack: yeah good point
[05:53] <sniff> Psi-Jack: atleast i knew what i was talking about ;)
[05:53] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: heh, liqueor is roughly 37% alcohol, really gets you going when you drank that much along with 3 1/2 stubies of 4% alcohol beer
[05:53] <brexel> hehehe
[05:53] <brexel> 37%
[05:54] <brexel> that sounds dangerous
[05:54] <brexel> *shivers*
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> anyway speaking of spam/ham I'm hungry.. lol
[05:54] <brexel> :D
[05:54] <brexel> hatake_kakashi: is your name from naruto?
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: yeah.. imagine having that along with beer.. in fact make it literally half of that bottle along with 3 1/2 stubbies
[05:54] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, odd..
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: my nick, yes
[05:54] <brexel> :)
[05:55] <brexel> i love naruto
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> I don't like the main character, I only like the character that I have put down here as a nick
[05:55] <brexel> ^^
[05:55] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I got your encrypted mail, but it immediately came up, no dialog, or anything, just in the content,, that decryption was not possible. Error being bad passphrase. heh
[05:55] <brexel> been a long time since i watched it
[05:55] <sniff> mmm
[05:55] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: ditto
[05:55] <brexel> what's the name of the guy with the blue shirt again?
[05:56] <sniff> Psi-Jack: when i get encry[ted email it just says it#s encrypted
[05:56] <brexel> the guy that becomes bad later?
[05:56] <Ashex> I "think" I've found my solution
[05:56] <brexel> sasuke
[05:56] <brexel> :)
[05:56] <sniff> Psi-Jack: no option to enter my passphrase or anything
[05:56] <Ashex> there's a thread on there with the same problem
[05:56] <brexel> i like him
[05:56] <Ashex> Shasta, this will be a fun job
[05:56] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I think that's because it gets cached for X minutes.
[05:56] <sniff> yeah
[05:56] <sniff> Psi-Jack: so your pass is wrong?
[05:56] <sniff> Psi-Jack: please send me an encypted email
[05:57] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I sent you one. Did you not get it yet?
[05:57] <sniff> er i should look i suppose
[05:58] <sniff> Psi-Jack:
[05:59] <sniff> Encrypted message (decryption not possible)
[05:59] <sniff> Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data.
[05:59] <sniff> Error: Decryption failed
[05:59] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i got your email, and the body of it is replaced with:
[05:59] <sniff> Encrypted message (decryption not possible)
[05:59] <sniff> Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data.
[05:59] <sniff> Error: Decryption failed
[05:59] <sniff> well ofcourse it can't decrypt it if it doesn't bloody well ask me for my passphrase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:59] <sniff> piece of shit
[06:00] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[06:00] <Psi-Jack> I managed to decode yours, using the annoying method.
[06:00] <sniff> Psi-Jack: c'mon this is basic functionality
[06:00] <Psi-Jack> View message source, copy, bring up kgpg's encrypt/decrypt clipboard, etc.
[06:00] <moshe> hello
[06:01] <sniff> yeah i know how to do that but i refuse to when it should work
[06:01] <Psi-Jack> Yeah.. I hear ya there.
[06:01] <moshe> I installed redhat-artwork to get the bluecurve theme for kde, and it seemed to install correctly.  I select the theme in KControl, and KControl changes appearance, but no other KDE apps change with it.  Any idea why?
[06:01] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: sasuke is jealous, just because he is trying to outdo naruto
[06:01] <sniff> Psi-Jack: linux emphasizes security over windows for people who are converting, but when they can't even integrate basic open gpg into mail what hope is there?
[06:02] <Psi-Jack> kmail used to have some of the best gpg integration.
[06:02] <sniff> moshe: try selecting another theme, and then changin back to redhat one
[06:02] <moshe> sniff, I tried that
[06:02] <sniff> Psi-Jack: so what went wrong?
[06:02] <Ashex> Hookay
[06:02] <sniff> moshe: try again ;)
[06:02] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: in fact, the GUI world part of linux is catching up, the bottom thing is, many CLI based apps can do the job
[06:02] <Ashex> Lets hope this works
[06:02] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Good question.
[06:03] <brexel> hatake_kakashi: i know but i like his in your face personality although he is poisoned with revenge
[06:03] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: ah
[06:03] <brexel> and his clothes ^
[06:03] <brexel> ^
[06:03] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i remember that gpg was really well integrated before. About 1.5 years ago i tried suse linux, and i was really impressed bby how it had gpg installed as default
[06:03] <moshe> I just switched from Plastik to Bluecurve, but only kcontrol's widgets changed.  the other kde app I have open is still Plastik.
[06:04] <sniff> Psi-Jack: it had gpg installed and configured with kmail automatically
[06:04] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[06:04] <hatake_kakashi> lol, my character is calm and collected, somewhat takes thing as a grain of salt.. that is probably something that I cannot adopt very easily
[06:04] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i think when you ran kmail for the first time it even asked you if you wanted to generate or import a key pair
[06:04] <brydenn> so how do i upgrade my Kernal to version 2.6.12-9-386?
[06:04] <brexel> hehehe
[06:04] <sniff> brydenn: full upgrade in adept?
[06:05] <brydenn> lol thats not an answer sniff ... thats a quesiton hehe
[06:05] <sniff> brydenn: MMM?
[06:05] <sniff> brydenn: when i do full upgrade in adept it upgrades the kernel
[06:06] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: after you have downloaded and installed, you need to reboot for it to take effect because kernel is the heart of OS
[06:06] <sniff> !full upgrade
[06:06] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sniff
[06:06] <sniff> !update
[06:06] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sniff
[06:07] <sniff> lol
[06:07] <sniff> useless
[06:07] <sniff> !kernel
[06:08] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: capish?
[06:08] <brydenn> yah i understand but what... you want me to do a full system upgrade?
[06:08] <brydenn> why cant i just upgrade the kernel?
[06:08] <sniff> maybe you can search for the kernel
[06:08] <hatake_kakashi> I never said that
[06:08] <sniff> "kernel" in adept
[06:08] <brydenn> well i'm in adept
[06:08] <brydenn> what pack to i install though?
[06:09] <sniff> anyway "sudo apt-get install kernelxxxxx???"
[06:09] <brydenn> i see linux-source-2.6.12
[06:09] <sniff> not the header
[06:09] <brydenn> is that the verion?
[06:09] <brydenn> *version
[06:09] <sniff> brydenn: let me have a look...
[06:09] <sniff> brydenn: no that's not it
[06:10] <brydenn> thanks sniff
[06:10] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I'm waiting for any responce from #kde about it.. heh
[06:10] <sniff> brydenn: linux-386
[06:10] <sniff> no
[06:11] <sniff> brydenn: linux-686
[06:11] <sniff> if you're using a single processor modern pc?
[06:11] <brydenn> yes AMD Sempron
[06:11] <brydenn> 2700+
[06:12] <sniff> is it 64bit?
[06:12] <brydenn> no 32
[06:12] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: Morning
[06:12] <sniff> brydenn: no hang on i don't know if it matters anyway
[06:12] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: Err, afternoon, excuuse me. ;)
[06:12] <Hobbsee> afternoon Psi-Jack
[06:12] <sniff> brydenn: so are you able to upgrade linux-686?
[06:12] <hatake_kakashi> I can't see why not
[06:12] <brydenn> i guess... adept says the package isnt installed yet
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:13] <sniff> Psi-Jack: how long do you reckon it will take them to respond?
[06:13] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: Do you happen to use kmail with openpgp? :)
[06:13] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Days, at this rate. :[p
[06:13] <sniff> brydenn: wait a second
[06:13] <brydenn> ok
[06:13] <sniff> brydenn: ok got it cracked
[06:13] <brydenn> ok :)
[06:14] <brydenn> lets hear it
[06:14] <sniff> brydenn: should be able to install:    linux-image-2.6.12-10-686
[06:14] <sniff> this is the one you're after
[06:14] <brydenn> hold up
[06:14] <brydenn> in adept it says Candidate Version 2.6.12.16.1
[06:15] <brydenn> oh oh
[06:15] <brydenn> thats the package i need to install
[06:15] <brydenn> i see what you're saying
[06:15] <brydenn> not linux-686 right
[06:15] <sniff> yeah right
[06:15] <sniff> the kernel image
[06:15] <brydenn> k 1 sec
[06:15] <Hobbsee> Psi-Jack: indeed i do not, i use thunderbird with enigmail, but i've seen a bugreport for it
[06:15] <sniff> you'll need to restart the comp after though
[06:15] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: Bug report for kmail? What kind?
[06:16] <Hobbsee> and with openpgp
[06:16] <sniff> Psi-Jack: that it's a piece of shite recently?
[06:16] <Hobbsee> dunno, didnt really look - it's on malone, assigned to kubuntu-bugs
[06:17] <brydenn> hey sniff : it says i have linux-image for 386 installed already though
[06:17] <sniff> mmm
[06:17] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: I see.. Hmm
[06:17] <sniff> brydenn: there maybe one already installed
[06:17] <brydenn> well maybe this will help my problem
[06:17] <sniff> brydenn: but maybe you can opt to install a newer version
[06:17] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: you have it installed but you may not be on that version
[06:17] <brydenn> how do i tell what kernel version i'm running?
[06:17] <hatake_kakashi> cat /proc/version
[06:17] <sniff> brydenn: good question?
[06:18] <hatake_kakashi> err uname -r can do it as well
[06:18] <sniff> i'm on 12-10
[06:18] <brydenn> Linux version 2.6.12-10-386 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 Mon Jan 16 17:18:08 UTC 2006
[06:18] <sniff> brydenn: that's the latest i think anyway
[06:18] <brydenn> hmmm
[06:18] <brydenn> then that makes me wonder
[06:18] <brydenn> i was trying to install a program
[06:18] <sniff> brydenn: what's your pron
[06:18] <sniff> prob
[06:18] <brydenn> and it said it wouldnt work cuz i didnt have an updated kernel
[06:19] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: which program and what kernel version does it require?
[06:19] <brydenn> Selecting previously deselected package truecrypt.
[06:19] <Hobbsee> Psi-Jack: have a look, and if you cant find it, i'll go look
[06:19] <brydenn> (Reading database ... 104053 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:19] <brydenn> Unpacking truecrypt (from truecrypt_4.1-0_i386.deb) ...
[06:19] <brydenn> Error: Linux kernel version 2.6.12-9-386 required.
[06:19] <brydenn> dpkg: error processing truecrypt_4.1-0_i386.deb (--install):
[06:19] <brydenn>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:19] <brydenn> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:19] <brydenn>  truecrypt_4.1-0_i386.deb
[06:19] <brydenn> oops sorry
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: Reported on bugs.kde.org, or where?
[06:19] <sniff> brydenn: it want's the older kernel
[06:19] <hatake_kakashi> !tell brydenn about pastebin
[06:19] <Hobbsee> !malone
[06:19] <brydenn> oh... i guess i have a newer version than it can recognize?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> !launchpad
[06:20] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[06:20] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: yes
[06:20] <Hobbsee> grrr
[06:20] <sniff> what progtam are you trying to install from source?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> Psi-Jack: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs
[06:20] <brydenn> i know about paste bin hatake_kakashi .. thats why i said ooops hehe sorry
[06:20] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: what brydenn said above with that large paste
[06:20] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: just in case
[06:20] <sniff> ah yeah
[06:20] <brydenn> yah i was trying to install TrueCrypt
[06:20] <sniff> there was so much crap i didn't even read it all
[06:21] <sniff> i think pkgsrc is your best bet
[06:21] <brydenn> download the source?
[06:21] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: try getting the source package version of it and get build-essential, build it yourself from there and then install it
[06:21] <Hobbsee> malone 31212
[06:21] <Hobbsee> !malone 31212
[06:21] <brydenn> i have build-essential already
[06:21] <ubotu> Malone: Bug #31212 in kdepim kmail (Ubuntu): Kmail can no longer get GPG key data from its backend.
[06:21] <Hobbsee> Psi-Jack: ^
[06:21] <brydenn> k i'll try that guys
[06:21] <sniff> brydenn:  no use PKGSRC  the package manager for netbsd
[06:21] <brydenn> thanks for you help
[06:21] <sniff> alright
[06:21] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: Ahh. Unrelated.
[06:22] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/31212
[06:22] <Hobbsee> ah, ok
[06:22] <Hobbsee> there were more
[06:23] <Hobbsee> Psi-Jack: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bugs
[06:23] <tendo_> can anyone tell me what how to see what sound driver is running the theme sounds for kde.  because thats the only thing that has sound, xmss vlc etc will not output sound
[06:24] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: fyi linux-686 is slightly better than 386 because its more optimised for your computer specs to certain aspect
[06:24] <hatake_kakashi> tendo_: point them to ALSA
[06:24] <tendo_> thats what they're set to in xmss
[06:25] <hatake_kakashi> tendo_: or try OSS
[06:25] <tendo_> oh wow
[06:25] <tendo_> oSS works
[06:25] <tendo_> isnt ASLA way more hot tho
[06:26] <hatake_kakashi> ALSA doesn't seem to support certain sound cards
[06:26] <Psi-Jack> Yep
[06:26] <Psi-Jack> gpgme_op_decrypt_verify() returned this error code:  117440523
[06:27] <tendo_> ok
[06:27] <brydenn> hatake_kakashi:  so you think i should install 686
[06:27] <tendo_> thanks a lot guys i can finally listen to music :)
[06:27] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: imo, once installed, reboot into it
[06:27] <Hobbsee> no way...
[06:27] <brydenn> thanks hatake_kakashi
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: actually, don't use it
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> I'm sure there is athlon package floating, which is even better heh
[06:29] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: but the best is to configure and compile it yourself
[06:29] <_sniff> Psi-Jack: any news from kde?
[06:29] <brydenn> hehe well i'm using a Sempron 2700+
[06:29] <brydenn> would athlon be better?
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: because you are on AMD type chipset, it has support for 386 compiled applications, its better to get ones that are more tailored to yours
[06:30] <tendo_> i cant code like you guys but here some free music i wrote http://deftek.net/tendo-swedish_museum_of_modern_robots/ thanks for helping me :)
[06:31] <brydenn> yah
[06:31] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: LOL No
[06:31] <hatake_kakashi> tendo_: np, I'll note that down
[06:31] <_sniff> Psi-Jack: :(
[06:31] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: It is a reported bug, however.
[06:31] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: and iirc, I may have made a big mistake if I recommended you to get linux-686 because you are on AMD, and it may not support it.. as in the kernel
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> I wonder if k7 is more appropriate.
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> !k7
[06:32] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> !google k7
[06:33] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> blah.. anyone know if k7 is athlon or something?
[06:34] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: Ahhh.
[06:35] <Psi-Jack> What do you get when you run: eval 'gpg-agent --daemon'
[06:35] <hatake_kakashi> brydenn: I got confirmation that k7 is athlon which probably is better
[06:35] <_sniff> psi
[06:35] <_sniff> Psi-Jack:  are you sure that email you sent me was encrypted with my key?
[06:36] <brydenn> ok hatake_kakashi
[06:36] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: Yep.
[06:36] <_sniff> Psi-Jack: GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-r2OTq6/S.gpg-agent:19331:1; export GPG_AGENT_INFO;
[06:36] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: Great. :)
[06:41] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: mkdir ~/.kde/env and put this into ~/.kde/env/gpg-agent.sh: eval `gpg-agent --daemon`
[06:41] <jindiaz> hey anyone know the command line to install myth tv??
[06:42] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: Then mkdir ~/.kde/shutdown, and put the following two lines into ~/.kde/shutdown/gpg-agent.sh:
[06:42] <_sniff> Psi-Jack: what is the exact thing i must type in the terminal?
[06:43] <bimberi> jindiaz: 'sudo aptitude install mythtv' (ensure that universe and multiverse repos are enabled)
[06:43] <Psi-Jack> #!/bin/sh    then    kill `echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO | cut -d ':' -f 2`
[06:43] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_KMail_gpg-agent_kde
[06:44] <jindiaz> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ic, i used the wrong thing
[06:44] <jindiaz> forgot aptitude
[06:44] <jindiaz> thank yu
[06:45] <bimberi> jindiaz: np :)  (you can use apt-get too, i prefer aptitude though)
[06:46] <_sniff> Psi-Jack: so my gpg-agent shutdown shoud look like:
[06:46] <_sniff> #!/bin/sh
[06:46] <_sniff> kill `echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO | cut -d ':' -f 2`
[06:46] <_sniff> ?
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: Basically , according to that gentoo wiki.
[06:47] <_sniff> so i assume you didn't try it ;)
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> I'm about it.
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> to
[06:47] <_sniff> well i must say i'm loving kde3.5
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> Gotta restart KDE in a sec.
[06:47] <jindiaz> yah thats the thing, apt-get didnt work
[06:47] <_sniff> ok i'll wait for you,    you can be my crash-dummy!
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: But, I did actually manually export that GPG_AGENT_INFO, and run kmail, and it worked fine to decrypt your mail.
[06:48] <_sniff> what did you do?
[06:48] <Psi-Jack> I started tge gpg-agent using that eval `gpg-agent --daemon`, and manually exported the return.
[06:49] <Psi-Jack> Anyway. BRB
[06:53] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: Works like a charm. ;)
[06:54] <Psi-Jack> It's not /actually/ a kmail bug. It's just that it depends on the gpg-agent.
[06:54] <_sniff> so i should what it says in gentoo?
[06:55] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: Yeah., for the kde specific stuff. ;)
[06:58] <Psi-Jack> _sniff: I'll be adding this to my little Wiki soon. ;)
[07:01] <_sniff> that's good i'm going to try now
[07:01] <_sniff> just i just hit ctrl+alt+bkspc?
[07:02] <Psi-Jack> Well, you should properly end your kde session. :p
[07:02] <_sniff> ok then
[07:02] <_sniff> brb - i hope1
[07:06] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i lost the encrypted mail you sent me, could you please resend
[07:06] <Psi-Jack> sniff: 10 4
[07:07] <Psi-Jack> sniff: BTW, do you have pinentry installed? :)
[07:08] <Psi-Jack> Sent.
[07:09] <Psi-Jack> LOL. That's an interesting fortune cookie. :)O
[07:11] <sniff> Psi-Jack: do i need it?
[07:11] <hokatichenci> Is there some tweak guide for kubuntu? I just installed it for the first time (never used debian/ubuntu etc) and all in all the system seems kind of weird
[07:11] <Psi-Jack> sniff: pinentry-qt provides a nice Qt-based GUI popup for the passphrase.
[07:11] <sniff> but
[07:12] <sniff> um
[07:12] <t3nd0> what if volume control isnt working in xmms with OSS Driver
[07:12] <hatake_kakashi> hokatichenci: its on the wiki somewhere
[07:12] <sniff> Psi-Jack: when i encrypt it gives me a passphrase box
[07:12] <t3nd0> also if a system event sound happens it kills the music
[07:12] <hatake_kakashi> !tweak
[07:12] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:12] <hokatichenci> thanks
[07:12] <hatake_kakashi> !tweaking
[07:12] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:12] <hatake_kakashi> grr
[07:12] <sniff> heheh no face
[07:35] <Psi-Jack> Man, I can't believe people sometimes.
[07:36] <Psi-Jack> About Mozilla Firefox 1.5 not being in .deb format just yet, and here I am, able to run it pretty easily without it. heh
[07:39] <Hobbsee> Psi-Jack: there are many reasons for it, all of which are documented in the backports forum on ubuntuforums
[07:40] <Psi-Jack> Hobbsee: I understand that. That's why I revert to using the Mozilla-provided tarball, and dropping it to /opt/firefox. ;)
[07:40] <Hobbsee> yep
[07:40] <Psi-Jack> But, all those people are complaining about it not being in a .deb package. :)
[07:41] <Psi-Jack> Like it's the frackin end of the world, mind you.
[07:41] <Hobbsee> true
[07:45] <Psi-Jack> in fact, I'm about to make it so I can run firefox-1.5, from /usr/bin, so I have /no/ compatability issues for when there does become a firefox 1.5 package. :)
[07:45] <Psi-Jack> But, I have to hack the /opt/firefox/firefox script itself. LOL
[07:47] <JasonF> here's my question
[07:47] <JasonF> how the HECK do you run kde
[07:47] <JasonF> and firefox
[07:47] <JasonF> it's *ugly as sin*
[07:47] <Psi-Jack> Easy.
[07:47] <JasonF> someone should write some QT frontend for firefux
[07:48] <Psi-Jack> I hit WIN+R, and type in firefox.
[07:48] <crimsun> JasonF: do you have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed?
[07:49] <JasonF> er
[07:49] <JasonF> I don't know
[07:49] <crimsun> (you should?)
[07:49] <JasonF> which probably means I don't
[07:49] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[07:49] <crimsun> it's listed as an rdep for kubuntu-desktop
[07:49] <Psi-Jack> Is there a way to get VLC to use 4.1 channel output instead of just 2 channel?
[07:49] <crimsun> rumour has it that you can configure gtk settings in the kde control center or whatnot
[07:49] <JasonF> crimsun: than it is installed
[07:49] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: set it in the audio->alsa preferences
[07:50] <Psi-Jack> crimsun: I didn't see channel settings..
[07:51] <crimsun> I don't have vlc installed atm due to severe free space limitations
[07:51] <Psi-Jack> I'm just curious. Because I used to use VLC on Windows all the time..
[07:52] <Psi-Jack> And it seems to actually perform quite decently under Linux, under Kubuntu. It didn't work this good even under Gentoo. heh
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> I've tried alsa devices hw:0,0, hw:0,2, and hw:0,3
[08:01] <hoka> Maybe I'm cracked out, but I can't find synaptics anywhere
[08:02] <Psi-Jack> You mean, synaptic?
[08:02] <karat> yeah
[08:02] <brexel> kynaptic
[08:02] <Psi-Jack> apt-get install synaptic
[08:02] <brexel> or adept
[08:03] <T3hWiz0rd> bah! damn linux! when all else fails! JACK IN THE BOX
[08:06] <Hobbsee> !tell kkathman about repos
[08:07] <karat> I have to admit, kubuntu is a little weird.
[08:07] <T3hWiz0rd> well, it reflects its users at least :-P
[08:07] <karat> I'm looking forward to not using these GUI's
[08:08] <T3hWiz0rd> what you using?
[08:08] <karat> adept?
[08:08] <karat> I guess?
[08:58] <_tribiani_> ?
[09:05] <divansantana> ?
[09:20] <weedar> My PC froze just now, while I was surfing the web, then after reboot it froze just as KDE was done loading, then the two reboots after that resulted in a black screen at the point where login to KDE should occur. What do you suggest I do?
[09:23] <Hobbsee> ctrl+alt+f1, login, startx?
[09:25] <weedar> The problem isn't that KDE doesn't start, but that it freezes my computer
[09:25] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[09:25] <Hobbsee> not sure
[09:25] <weedar> Of course, it didn't this time I booted, but I'd lke to know why so I can prevent it from doing it in the future
[09:26] <Hobbsee> so startx worked?
[09:27] <weedar> no, KDE starts automagically at boot
[09:32] <ubuntu> !w32codecs
[09:32] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:46] <Tonio_> hi
[09:54] <sniff> Psi-Jack: are you around?
[09:56] <ita_> hi all ...
[09:57] <ita_> is there a reason why i cant find mplayer with adept ?! is there no official deb package for it ?!
[09:57] <_mindspin> afaik no
[09:58] <weedar> mplayer is apt-gettable
[09:58] <_mindspin> try universe/miltiverse
[09:58] <_mindspin> multiverse
[09:58] <_mindspin> !mplayer
[09:58] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:58] <weedar> it's in multiverse
[09:59] <ita_> ah isee thank you a lot
[10:01] <tdo> hello
[10:10] <balanite86> Hi there!
[10:12] <ita_> if i may mention this .. im still confused with those "codewords" (components) with the repositories
[10:12] <ita_> i see - enabling/disabling repos allows packages to be found or not
[10:13] <ita_> but this "add multiverse" here and stuff confuses me :>
[10:13] <ita_> anyways .. did the trick - mplayer appearsin adept now ..
[10:14] <balanite86> does someone of you use Kplayer in kubuntu (i'm italian,sorry for my bad english)
[10:14] <balanite86> ?
[10:18] <_mindspin> ita: theres a file /etc/etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <_mindspin> where is defined which reositorys will be searched by apt-get
[10:19] <_mindspin> repositories i mean
[10:20] <_mindspin> adept or kynaptic  use thise files when updating/upgrading
[10:20] <ita_> ah i see .. its the file im working on when chosing "manage repos" in adept
[10:20] <ita_> thank you
[10:20] <ita_> :q
[10:20] <_mindspin> in adept is a configure trepositories section where you can edit that file
[10:27] <sniff> Psi-Jack: ?
[10:31] <ita_> btw is there a keyboard shortcut like windows-m (or n?!) on win to minimize all windows on desktop `!
[10:31] <ita_> ?!
[10:31] <Hysty> boo!
[10:31] <ita_> eeeek!
[10:32] <Hysty> question, where does kde stores the menu entries?
[10:33] <Hysty> i installed kubuntu-desktop after installing the basic ubuntu and noticed it also imported the gnome menu entries as well
[10:33] <Hysty> now I want to remove some menu entries from the kde panel and for it not to affect those in gnome
[10:39] <hatake_kakashi> Hysty: lol, that's exactly the same problem I have after getting kubuntu-desktop. There is another funny thing about it too, if you check with synaptic, you can see the kubuntu-desktop shows up as not installed.
[10:42] <Hysty> hatake_kakashi, really? wierd
[10:42] <Hysty> hatake_kakashi, i just want to make sure that I dont delete the gnome entry if I get rid of the kde one
[10:44] <hatake_kakashi> Hysty: that I don't have a clue about heh
[10:44] <Hysty> oh well, if I figure it out, i'll let you know
[10:44] <Hysty> off to windows now
[10:46] <viviersf> hehe @ hatake_kakashi
[10:46] <viviersf> konichiwa :)
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> viviersf: konnichiwa
[10:46] <viviersf> hehe
[10:48] <viviersf> to much naruto is bad for you
[10:50] <Cyberwal83> heya
[10:51] <Cyberwal83> when I triy to mount my ntfs drives automatically with:
[10:51] <Cyberwal83> /dev/hda1	/windows/c	ntfs	nls=utf8,umask=0222	0	0
[10:51] <Cyberwal83> /dev/hda5	/windows/d	ntfs	nls=utf8,umask=0222	0	0
[10:51] <Cyberwal83> I get an error that says onlyroot can do that..
[10:52] <_mindspin> try sudo mount
[10:52] <Cyberwal83> yeah that works
[10:52] <Cyberwal83> but I want it automagically ;)
[10:52] <_mindspin> edit your fstab
[10:52] <Cyberwal83> I did
[10:52] <Cyberwal83> entered these two lines in fstab
[10:52] <hatake_kakashi> Cyberwal83: why would you wnat to make it writeable?
[10:53] <Cyberwal83>  uh is it writeable?
[10:53] <Cyberwal83> I coped that from a site that said it's read-only
[10:53] <Cyberwal83> copied
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> according to those numbers I assume it is
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> 4 = read 2 = write 1 = executable
[10:53] <Cyberwal83> hrm
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> that's octal numbers for chmod
[10:54] <hatake_kakashi> I recalled I set mine to umask=0000
[10:54] <hatake_kakashi> I think
[10:54] <hatake_kakashi> lol viviersf
[10:54] <_mindspin> ro will also do
[10:55] <viviersf> :)
[10:55] <viviersf> i havnt watched naruto in months
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> viviersf: iie, sono anime wa omoshiroi dakara
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> ore mo
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> -_-
[10:55] <viviersf> erm dude
[10:55] <viviersf> i cant speak japanese
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> nani?
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[10:55] <viviersf> i only know some words
[10:55] <viviersf> baka ;)
[10:56] <hatake_kakashi> only baka? lol
[10:56] <viviersf> and
[10:56] <Alexi5> hello
[10:56] <viviersf> konichiwa, arigato
[10:56] <viviersf> erm
[10:56] <hatake_kakashi> eh basic ones heh
[10:56] <viviersf> ktsoooooo - ouch or sumthing
[10:56] <viviersf> yeah
[10:56] <viviersf> like playing guitar more than learning japanese soz
[10:56] <Alexi5> is kubuntu similar to ubuntu, and is the only difference is that ubuntu use gnome and kubuntuuses kde
[10:56] <viviersf> yeah Alexi5
[10:56] <Hobbsee> Alexi5: correct
[10:57] <hatake_kakashi> err, ouch in Japanese is itte
[10:57] <viviersf> hatake_kakashi, whats dammit ? maby thats what im talking about
[10:57] <Alexi5> i think i might get it
[10:57] <hatake_kakashi> viviersf: shimatta
[10:58] <Alexi5> fedora is giving me a head ache
[10:58] <viviersf> Alexi5, good choice
[10:58] <viviersf> hatake_kakashi, you actually japanese or you learned it in the name of anime
[10:58] <viviersf> ?
[10:58] <hatake_kakashi> viviersf: I learnt Japanese for three years in High School, and now I talk to Japanese speakers every so often, along with listening to their music and watching anime
[10:59] <_chris> hello
[10:59] <hatake_kakashi> however, my Japanese language is far from complete
[11:00] <hatake_kakashi> _chris: hi
[11:01] <ita_> am i right with the assuption that a apt-get install does nothing "more" but a wget on the package and calls dkpg -i on the package after !?
[11:01] <_chris> ohio gozaimasu :)
[11:01] <hatake_kakashi> ita_: no
[11:01] <Cyberwal83> hrm
[11:02] <hatake_kakashi> _chris: ohaiyo ga? ima nan ji?
[11:02] <_chris> having a problem playing audio/video files, i am not sure how to install necessary files
[11:02] <Cyberwal83> I still get the error "Only root can mount /dev/hda1 on /windows/d
[11:02] <Cyberwal83> :/
[11:02] <_chris> america jin desu
[11:02] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[11:02] <melonipoika> hi all, i have installed gimp 2.2.10 from deb packages I download manually, and now synaptic is complainign about broken packages and doesn't let me do anything but uninstall many libs, how can I tell synaptic not to uninstall all them?
[11:02] <_chris> actually i don't know much more japanese, took some in high school
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> _chris: I assume you need win32codecs
[11:03] <Cyberwal83> uhm what editor should I use to edit fstab?
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> Cyberwal83: any *nix based ones will do
[11:03] <Cyberwal83> kate? :o
[11:03] <ita_> im a vi(m) only guy for file_editing ... cause its like available on most systems
[11:04] <_chris> i believe so, i downloaded a package from mplayer site, not sure how to put them in the correct location
[11:04] <ita_> ok kate rocks on kde no question :>
[11:04] <ita_> _chris: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats helped me a lot
[11:05] <_chris> i will read that thanks
[11:05] <hatake_kakashi> ita_: I love vim, I used to use pico/nano
[11:05] <Alexi5> which is best to get if i want up to date software , the cd or dvd
[11:05] <Hobbsee> Alexi5: grab it from apt-get :P
[11:05] <Hobbsee> over the internet
[11:05] <Hobbsee> why would you use a cd?
[11:06] <_chris> also another problem, not sure i installed kubuntu correctly. i had XP and trying to dual boot, but not i get 'unmountable boot volume' when booting windows
[11:07] <_chris> i tried to partition it correctly, not sure if i made a mistake there. when i installed suse, it was relatively simple. but i am liking kubuntu alot more.
[11:07] <_chris> sorry, not = now
[11:08] <hatake_kakashi> _chris: check your menu.lst I presume?
[11:08] <Alexi5> can java be installed on kubuntu
[11:08] <robotgeek> Alexi5, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:09] <_chris> tell hatake_kakashi test
[11:10] <hatake_kakashi> huh
[11:10] <_chris> your messages to me are in a different font, wondering if they were private messages or something
[11:11] <_chris> but i don't understand, what should i check my menu for?
[11:12] <hatake_kakashi> _chris: probably grub didn't add the menu entry for xp correctly
[11:12] <Hobbsee> _chris: happens when your nick is mentioned
[11:12] <Hobbsee> ie, see this
[11:12] <Hobbsee> _chris: and this
[11:13] <hatake_kakashi> hmm which IRC client are you using _chris?
[11:14] <_chris> konversation
[11:14] <_chris> ahh thanks hobbsee
[11:14] <Hobbsee> no problems
[11:14] <ita_> omg i cant use my kvirc right
[11:14] <ita_> sorry for ctcp flood :/
[11:14] <raphink> ita_: I'm using konvi on kde 3.5.1/dapper
[11:14] <raphink> :p
[11:15] <Alexi5> so everthing that is available to ubuntu is also available to kubuntu?
[11:15] <raphink> Alexi5: yes
[11:15] <ita_> i just clicked on _chris but kvirc questioned whole channel sorry again
[11:15] <hatake_kakashi> irssi on ubuntu (with KDE)/breezy.. now on tty :p
[11:15] <raphink> Alexi5: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same OS, with different default settings
[11:15] <_chris> sorry
[11:16] <raphink> ita_: use /ctcp user version next time
[11:16] <raphink> so you're sure to not do the whole channel ;)
[11:16] <hatake_kakashi> and some say its rude to ctcp them without their permission
[11:17] <tijn_> how rude ;)
[11:17] <raphink> hatake_kakashi: yah, some say
[11:17] <Hobbsee> more rude to PM without permission, it seems.  ctcp doesnt seem so bad in comparison
[11:17] <raphink> ah?
[11:17] <Hobbsee> was just a general comment, not aimed at anyone :)
[11:18] <ita_> i think there are even irc servers that would have kicked me for doing 146 ctcp version in a short time .)
[11:18] <hatake_kakashi> Hobbsee: yeah I agree PM without permission is more rude however some still get annoyed at simple ctcp
[11:18] <Cyberwal83> wee it worked, what a stupid error :P
[11:18] <hatake_kakashi> its called excess flood, ita
[11:19] <Hobbsee> true
[11:20] <ita_> package of the day : mplayer-mozilla
[11:20] <ita_> listening to my favourite radio .. wooohooo
[11:22] <_chris> ahh finally adding universe repository
[11:23] <_chris> installing firefox 1.5 can't be done with package manager, can it?
[11:23] <robotgeek> _chris, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:31] <Alexi5> hello
[11:32] <Alexi5> does the ubuntu documentation also apply to kubuntu
[11:33] <Hobbsee> mostly
[11:33] <Hobbsee> replace gksudo with kdesu, and gedit with kwrite, and it does
[11:37] <Cyberwal83> hm I set opera as standard browser and now everytime I click a link I get a second opera tab for about 10 seconds in my app-list. is this normal?
[11:39] <DaveQB> so whats the deal with Kubuntu removing the Window menu from Konqueror ??
[11:39] <DaveQB> more specifically, how does one get it back ??
[11:43] <tijn_> mmh i want to bring down the secondary win2k3 server, and install linux on it... how do i find out whats the primary domain controller? OT, i know ;)
[11:50] <manolo> hi
[11:50] <robotgeek> hi manolo
[11:56] <tomplast> hi guys
[11:56] <robotgeek> hi
[11:56] <tomplast> i have a Intel D865PERL motherboard and I can't get my firewire working (I think)
[11:57] <robotgeek> tomplast: can you paste the output of the command "lsmod" to the pastebin ?
[11:57] <tomplast> oki, just a moment
[11:58] <Cyberwal83> hrm
[11:58] <tomplast> robotgeek: http://pastebin.com/559265
[11:58] <Cyberwal83> sound works in Kubuntu but not in wine..
[11:59] <tomplast> Cyberwal83: have you tried to switch between alsa and oss?
[11:59] <tomplast> Cyberwal83: in winecfg
[11:59] <robotgeek> tomplast: the firewire modules arent loading
[11:59] <tomplast> robotgeek: isn't ieee1394 the one?
[12:00] <tomplast> robotgeek: ieee1394              299832  3 video1394,ohci1394,raw1394
[12:00] <robotgeek> tomplast: oh yeah, it's that one. i missed it :)
[12:00] <tomplast> robotgeek: good, i hope :/
[12:00] <Cyberwal83> tomplast: when I look it up in winecfg, it has the OSS driver selected. there also is a wave out device in the oss list, unlike in the alsa list
[12:00] <Cyberwal83> tomplast: but kmixer says "supported: oss&alsa, used: alsa"
[12:00] <robotgeek> tomplast: hmm, i don't know much about firewire, maybe look in the dmesg logs for errors?
[12:00] <tomplast> Cyberwal83: can you select alsa in winecfg?
[12:00] <tid-wave> hello! adept crashes when I click "Fetch updates"
[12:01] <tomplast> tid-wave: are you running dapper?
[12:01] <tid-wave> yes
[12:01] <tid-wave> flight dapper 3
[12:01] <tid-wave> (sorry for not mentioning that)
[12:01] <tomplast> dapper drake has still some nasty bugs
[12:01] <tomplast> have you tried to update?
[12:01] <tomplast> from console?
[12:01] <tid-wave> i'll update now :D
[12:01] <tomplast> do so :)
[12:02] <Cyberwal83> tomplast: yeah I can, doesn't work though. I also get a "missing libjack.so"-error when selecting the "audio" tab
[12:03] <tomplast> guess what people :P
[12:03] <tomplast> good old buggy dapper ;)
[12:04] <tomplast> robotgeek: do you know anyone who can help me?
[12:04] <tid-wave> how do I update EVERYTHING ? (apt-get update doesn't update amarok)
[12:05] <robotgeek> tomplast: not sure, maybe some firewire gurus in #ubuntu?
[12:05] <tomplast> tid-wave: does it holds it back? which version is your amarok now?
[12:05] <tomplast> robotgeek: thank you. i will check  it out :)
[12:05] <tid-wave> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[12:05] <tid-wave>   amarok-gstreamer: Depends: amarok (= 2:1.3.7-0ubuntu4) but 2:1.3.8-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[12:05] <kosh> sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:06] <Cyberwal83> and when I select alsa, I get an "could not create sound buffer" error when starting stuff in wine, but not with oss.. I just don't get sound :p
[12:06] <tid-wave> The following packages have been kept back
[12:06] <tid-wave>   amarok
[12:06] <tid-wave> :)
[12:07] <tomplast> Cyberwal83: too bad. sorry that i cant help you. did it work in cedega you said?
[12:07] <tomplast> tid-wave: which version of amarok do you have now?
[12:07] <tid-wave> 1.3.7
[12:08] <Cyberwal83> haven't tried cedega yet, toying around with wine..
[12:09] <tomplast> Cyberwal83: oki
[12:09] <Cyberwal83> uh cedega isn't free :P
[12:09] <Cyberwal83> is there a demo?
[12:09] <tomplast> tid-wave: have you tried to add the 1.4 beta repositories?
[12:09] <tomplast> it is
[12:10] <tomplast> cedegacvs :P
[12:10] <Cyberwal83> found it
[12:10] <tomplast> but i pay for mine :P
[12:10] <Cyberwal83> tomplast: ?
[12:10] <tid-wave> tomplast: no, what's the address ?
[12:10] <tomplast> tid-wave: kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:10] <tid-wave> kubuntu
[12:11] <tomplast> tid-wave: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta1.php
[12:14] <tid-wave> cool
[12:14] <tid-wave> :D
[12:15] <tomplast> tid-wave: yeah its quite good :)
[12:16] <tid-wave> I like kubuntu
[12:16] <ita_> i like amarok a lot .. but its a stress-test to my cpu :)
[12:16] <tid-wave> I just hope KDE will be come more integrated with the OS
[12:16] <tomplast> i dont understand why people even uses gnome
[12:16] <tid-wave> s/be come/ become
[12:17] <tid-wave> well gnome is nice
[12:17] <tid-wave> btw is it possible to have the same placement of the bars ?
[12:17] <_chris> i downloaded codecs off the mplayer site, now i just copy these to usr/lib/w32codecs? i am having problems with this step
[12:17] <tid-wave> with taskbar & pager below
[12:17] <tid-wave> and launchers & notification area on top ?
[12:17] <tomplast> _chris: use the debian package instead
[12:18] <robotgeek> !w32codecs
[12:18] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:18] <_chris> tomplast: sounds good, what is it called?
[12:18] <tomplast> _chris: wait i will give you a link
[12:20] <tomplast> _chris: the link i used to use is down. i will try to look for a mirror
[12:21] <tid-wave> tomplast: do you know if it's possible to split kpanel in two like in Gnome ? (on top and bottom)
[12:21] <tid-wave> it should be possible .. at least with two panels
[12:21] <tomplast> tid-wave: i don't really know :/. but everything should be possible ;)
[12:22] <tid-wave> can i launch two panels ?
[12:22] <_chris> i tried using the link in ubotu's message.(sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) i get this error: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[12:22] <tomplast> _chris: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[12:22] <tomplast> _chris: there is a link anyway
[12:23] <_chris> heh thanks
[12:23] <bert_> Use Automatix
[12:23] <tomplast> bert_: never use automatix!
[12:23] <Cyberwal83> why=
[12:23] <tomplast> i hate it!
[12:23] <robotgeek> !automatix
[12:23] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:23] <bert_> I have and neve had any problems
[12:24] <tomplast> can you uninstall packages?
[12:24] <robotgeek> bert_: doesn't mean that it is safe
[12:24] <tomplast> i dont like having a weird program installing stuff on my computer
[12:24] <bert_> Don't want yo uninstall Opera the above codes and firefox
[12:24] <tomplast> packages are  easy to maintain
[12:24] <tomplast> install and uninstall
[12:24] <tomplast> ?
[12:25] <tomplast> i can find codecs
[12:25] <tomplast> opera
[12:25] <tomplast> and firefox normaly
[12:25] <tomplast> firefox is in the resotories
[12:25] <tomplast> repositories
[12:25] <tomplast> opera has a package file on their website ( though depency problems in dapper)
[12:26] <robotgeek> !opera
[12:26] <ubotu> well, opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[12:26] <tomplast> hey i allready said that ubotu :p
[12:27] <robotgeek> tomplast: ubotu is a bot
[12:27] <tomplast> oops :xp:
[12:27] <tomplast> i didnt know :$
[12:27] <tomplast> he doesnt sound like one :P
[12:27] <Daddy_D> How come when I install firefox, it appears to be version 1.0.7?
[12:27] <tomplast> ubotu: how does it feels to be a bot?
[12:27] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tomplast
[12:27] <Daddy_D> I really want to get 1.5 or even the new 1.6
[12:28] <kasim> hi, i'm just trying to install amd64 with sata-disks? Is breezy or dapper install prepared for that? Any hints?
[12:28] <tomplast> Daddy_D: 1.07 is the one used. i guess you could look in warthog for older releases :P
[12:29] <robotgeek> Daddy_D, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:29] <_chris> tomplast: i ended up using that ftp link. and the other problem i had was having adept open, thanks for your help.
[12:30] <tomplast> _chris: yw
[12:32] <Daddy_D> oh christ, they were right when they told me I will never get bored with Linux.
[12:32] <Daddy_D> every single thing I want is like a little adventure.
[12:33] <robotgeek> freeflying-ibook: what is ebuntu?
[12:33] <tomplast> Daddy_D: do you play a lot games in linux? any favorites?
[12:34] <Daddy_D> I just started with linux couple of days ago. I heard there it's possible to install many of the new ones, which run even better like Enemy Territory, Unreal xxxx, Quake, etc etc
[12:34] <Daddy_D> Why do you ask?
[12:34] <tomplast> just wonder :)
[12:35] <tomplast> enemy territory and americas army is quite nice :)
[12:35] <tomplast> and best of all, free ^^
[12:35] <Daddy_D> I want to but to be honest I dont even know how to get applications for Kubuntu yet. It's so annoying.
[12:35] <tomplast> :)
[12:35] <tomplast> start with adept
[12:35] <tomplast> from where you can install game and other apps
[12:36] <Daddy_D> But adept dosent list the following: VideoLan player, Beep Media Player, Firefox 1.5, and on and on
[12:36] <tomplast> no
[12:36] <tomplast> but firefox 1.7 right?
[12:36] <Daddy_D> I figured its better to actually use in command line apt-get
[12:36] <Daddy_D> yeah 1.0.7
[12:36] <tomplast> yes
[12:37] <tomplast> if you dont know so much yet its better to stick what you get :)
[12:37] <tomplast> 1.07 :)
[12:37] <tomplast> or try opera
[12:37] <tomplast> its the fastest browser efter known to man :)
[12:37] <tomplast> and its good that you can resume surfing after a crash (it remembers which pages you were surfing)
[12:38] <tomplast> to be able to access videolan you need to add an extra repository
[12:38] <Daddy_D> And one more thing. Every time I try to edit sources.list or plug my flash drive it ask me to have root permissions. I never regret for enabling the root account in my GUI login
[12:38] <Daddy_D> mmm, how do I do that?
[12:38] <tomplast> its good that rootlogin it disabled by default
[12:38] <tomplast> wait
[12:38] <tomplast> i will give you some info
[12:38] <Daddy_D> thanks.
[12:39] <Daddy_D> I tried Videolan player website but it dosent give me clue what to do.
[12:39] <_chris> trying to install w32codecs, but having problems because i run amd64 processor, anyone have experience handling this?
[12:39] <Daddy_D> It would have been easier if I could download something and start from there.
[12:39] <tomplast> you have kubuntu breezy Daddy_D?
[12:39] <Daddy_D> yes
[12:40] <tomplast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68056
[12:40] <tomplast> look at this
[12:40] <tomplast> it will work
[12:40] <tomplast> should at least ;)
[12:40] <tomplast> i wanna be of more help but i really need to do some things :/
[12:40] <_diogo> greetings!
[12:40] <tomplast> so take care Daddy_D
[12:41] <tomplast> I hope that everything will work out for you :)
[12:41] <_diogo> I was wondering where do the (k)ubuntu release names come from...
[12:41] <Daddy_D> aaaaah, so the only way to edit is use gedit or vi instead of Kate under GUI
[12:41] <Daddy_D> so stupid
[12:41] <_diogo> Any clues?
[12:41] <tomplast> no
[12:41] <tomplast> replace gedit  with vi
[12:41] <tomplast> or kate
[12:41] <_diogo> I couldn't find the reason for them anywhere...
[12:41] <tomplast> its easier
[12:41] <Snake|Sleeeeeeep> What do you guys need?
[12:41] <Daddy_D> if I try Kate every time it tells me it I do not have permission to write to that file
[12:41] <tomplast> do you use sudo in front of it?
[12:41] <Daddy_D> its ok if I log in as a root
[12:42] <Snake__> NO
[12:42] <Snake__> DO NOT USE SUDO WITH GUI APPS
[12:42] <tomplast> why?
[12:42] <tomplast> HE SHOULD
[12:42] <Snake__> It's know to fux permissions
[12:42] <Daddy_D> I dont use sudo at all
[12:42] <tomplast> if he dont know vi
[12:42] <tomplast> do you know VI Daddy_D?
[12:42] <Snake__> tomplast: No dude, GUI should be using kdesu
[12:42] <tomplast> oki Snake_
[12:42] <Snake__> To use root on GUI programs, use kdesu
[12:42] <tomplast> if you say so :)
[12:42] <tomplast> then please take over Snake__ ;)
[12:42] <Daddy_D> I have Linux in a Nutshell so that has some info on the VI command
[12:42] <tomplast> i got to do some things :P
[12:43] <tomplast> thanks for the tips Snake__ ;)
[12:43] <tomplast> bye
[12:43] <Daddy_D> but I will try the guide the guy has written. At least I can watch movies or something. MP3's later.
[12:43] <Snake__> rofl
[12:43] <Snake__> Daddy_D: what are you trying to do with vi or whatever
[12:44] <Snake__> Daddy_D: if you want to use kate, you can. You just type "kdesu kate /path/to/file
[12:44] <Daddy_D> nothing, I was just saying that that guy in the howto install vlc guide is using gedit or he could vi too
[12:44] <Snake__> Daddy_D: you could substitute kate with it
[12:44] <Daddy_D> But what I mention is that of I use KATE to do the job under GUI it always tells me I dont have permission to change the file
[12:45] <Daddy_D> I find it easier to use the command line because the GUI is too buggy.
[12:45] <Snake__> Daddy_D: type in "kdesu kate /path/to/file" (obviously putting the path to file where it says)
[12:45] <Daddy_D> ok I will try
[12:45] <Snake__> Well if you want to use VI, your welcome to :)
[12:47] <bert_> Use Krusader, enable root version from menu and edit source file, real easy
[12:47] <Snake__> And don't listen to whoever that tomplast guy was, the simple rule is: Launch GUI from console, use kdesu. Launch Command line tools from console, use sudo
[12:47] <Daddy_D> this is a little bit strange. I typed the following kdesu etc/apt/sources.list   it opened with Kate like you said but the file is empty. And it had some links before lol
[12:48] <Snake__> Daddy_D: did you miss kate in your command or just right there
[12:48] <Daddy_D> where?
[12:48] <bimberi> Daddy_D: also, did you use a leading / (you need to) -     /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:49] <Snake__> Daddy_D: I just did that as well, thats weird, its not that its empty, look on the left side tool bar, it opens 3 files. The top one holds your links
[12:49] <Daddy_D> I typed it just as you see it
[12:49] <Snake__> Okay, I just did it too, and as I said, it actually opens 3 files (very strange)
[12:51] <Daddy_D> welcome to my world!
[12:52] <Snake__> lol
[12:53] <Snake__> Daddy_D: well like I said, you could use vi if you want, but I just wanted to save your system before it got screwed from sudo
[12:55] <_chris> i believe i have the codecs in the right location now, but kaffeine will only work with audio and no video
[12:56] <Crazy> hi i am just trying to install kubuntu on a laptop, but unforunately i keep gettin an error, si neone able to help
[12:56] <Daddy_D> Im trying it out
[12:57] <Daddy_D> so instead of sudo I should always use kdesu?
[12:57] <Daddy_D> or su?
[12:57] <Daddy_D> there are so many now
[12:57] <Snake|Out> Daddy_D: Lol no, just remeber this:
[12:57] <kosh> sudo = commandline   kdesu = gui
[12:57] <Snake|Out> GUI = k
[12:57] <Snake|Out> ugh
[12:57] <Snake|Out> Beat me to it :)
[12:57] <Daddy_D> ok
[12:57] <Crazy> the error is - Your CPU does not support long mode. Try a 32bit distribution - pls if anyone can help me?
[12:58] <Crazy> i really want to try kubuntu
[12:58] <Snake|Out> Crazy: what kind of processor
[12:58] <Daddy_D> YES!
[12:58] <Daddy_D> I ve done it. I think I got vlc
[12:58] <Crazy> hp pavilion zv5000 im not very good with computer jargon, wat units is processor measured in
[12:58] <Crazy> sorry
[12:59] <robotgeek> Crazy: the 64 bit stuff only works on certain machines
[12:59] <kosh> Crazy: it means you are trying to use the 64bit editiong of kubuntu on a 32bit processor
[12:59] <Crazy> i just downloaded the first distribution on the downloads page
[12:59] <Crazy> which one should i be downloading
[01:00] <Crazy> Processor: Pentium 4 3.0GHz with hyper-threading technology
[01:00] <kosh> Crazy: the same kind of thing would happen if you tried to install windows xp 64 on your machine
[01:00] <kosh> Crazy use the 32bit version
[01:00] <Crazy> thankyou
[01:00] <Crazy> which version?
[01:00] <Crazy> on the download page
[01:00] <Crazy> i386?
[01:00] <bimberi> i386
[01:01] <Crazy> thankyou all so much
[01:01] <Crazy> i wish i didnt just waste 7 hours lol
[01:01] <Crazy> :D
[01:01] <kosh> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/
[01:01] <kosh> just read that page it shoudl be obvious
[01:01] <_b> lol!
[01:01] <kosh> there are only 3 choices for an install cd, you don't have a mac, and you don't have a 64bit system
[01:01] <kosh> and the first choice said it was for if you are unsure
[01:01] <Crazy> i see
[01:02] <Crazy> so power pc is mac?
[01:02] <Crazy> sorry im such a noob
[01:02] <kosh> your problem is not being a newbie
[01:02] <kosh> your problem is not reading
[01:02] <Crazy> lol
[01:02] <Crazy> true
[01:03] <kosh> to be honest that is not something that I will help with
[01:03] <Crazy> i was on different page i was downloading from australia
[01:03] <kosh> someone else might but I won't
[01:03] <Crazy> i see now
[01:03] <Crazy> thanks very much
[01:03] <Crazy> the australia downloads page doesnt say nething other than wat the file names are called
[01:04] <Crazy> cya and thankyou soooo much for ur help, catch u l8a :D
[01:06] <Melsen> Hrmm
[01:07] <Melsen> Is there anything wrong with using Synaptic in Kubuntu?
[01:07] <robotgeek> Melsen: you'll have to install a lot of gnome crud
[01:08] <Daddy_D> I wanted to ask, does people really like Ubuntu/Kubuntu? Or is it something they just got sticked with using for no reason?
[01:08] <Melsen> crud?
[01:08] <Melsen> I love it Daddy_D - first dist that has made me drop Windows
[01:08] <kosh> why would people download and install it if they did not like it?
[01:08] <tijn_> Daddy_D well
[01:08] <_andy___> heya ppl
[01:08] <farous> Daddy_D: people normally stick with what they are familiar with
[01:09] <robotgeek> Melsen: okay, lots of gnome apps :)
[01:09] <tijn_> iam a debian person myself, but i saw Kubuntu and i must say its working nice
[01:09] <farous> but trying some distro i have to admit i just love ubuntu
[01:09] <kosh> I use a mixture of kubuntu and debian
[01:09] <tijn_> so iam still running debian :) only my laptop runs kubuntu
[01:09] <kosh> however I have been using linux for about 10 years now
[01:10] <kosh> the only thing I have used windows for in about 10 years now is games
[01:10] <Daddy_D> no, Im just trying to figure it out. Many of my frends dont like the way kubuntu deals with stuff and they find it hard and painfull to help me out. I believe they either use Gentoo or Slackware. I got recommended Kubuntu for beginners.
[01:10] <tijn_> 1 thing i hate about kubuntu
[01:11] <tijn_> i want to be ROOT!
[01:11] <tijn_> :D
[01:11] <kosh> umm that is a good thing to change that one
[01:11] <Daddy_D> excatly! :P
[01:11] <tijn_> ah well.. sude passwd root
[01:11] <tijn_> :D
[01:11] <kosh> you should not be running as root ever
[01:11] <Daddy_D> Also is it true that I shouldnt go online when Im logged in as root?
[01:11] <Melsen> start a terminal windows, type 'sudo passwd root' and type the password you want.. then you can su to root.. but... it kinda goes against the kubuntu setup. There is nothing you need to do in Kubuntu that you can't do within the set frames
[01:12] <farous> one thing i hate /understand ubuntu inherited from debian. Stuboorness with prop soft
[01:12] <_andy___> still dunt let ya login on that account tho :(
[01:12] <kosh> farous: huh?
[01:12] <farous> as a desktop user like others the first thing i do is download the prop codecs
[01:12] <kosh> farous: it is a legal issue
[01:13] <farous> i had to install gsp-afpl cause the regul gs-eps gave me lots of troubles
[01:13] <kosh> farous: none of them want to go to jail to make your life easier
[01:13] <farous> not all of it kosh
[01:13] <Melsen> Anyone can recommend a good program to listen to online radio with?
[01:13] <Daddy_D> but Meslen, thats the problem Im having all the time. Editing anything in GUI is almost impossible unless I modify something while using ROOT
[01:13] <robotgeek> Melsen: amarok
[01:13] <kosh> Daddy_D: kdesu kate
[01:13] <Melsen> use kdesu?
[01:13] <Daddy_D> ah o
[01:13] <Daddy_D> ok
[01:14] <Daddy_D> I should probably get the book for Kubuntu
[01:14] <Daddy_D> my original plan was to learn linux by using a book. It should be a lot quicker than trying to teach my self like I did with Windows.
[01:14] <kosh> Daddy_D: kdesu has been used for about 5-6 years now
[01:14] <Melsen> robotgeek_away: package name for amarok radio plugin?
[01:15] <robotgeek_away> Melsen: none, it just works. see playlist option
[01:15] <Melsen> hey wtf
[01:15] <Melsen> thats cool
[01:15] <Melsen> thanks =)
[01:15] <robotgeek_away> later
[01:15] <_andy___> is there a linux version of msn withh all the features ?
[01:15] <Daddy_D> Well fair point but I used kdesu from about an hour ago
[01:15] <kosh> msn what?
[01:16] <Melsen> _andy___: kopete is awesome
[01:16] <_andy___> messanger
[01:16] <kosh> msn itself is an internet service, and a webpage
[01:16] <_andy___> :-?
[01:16] <Daddy_D> Kubuntu book and IRC are two things that go very well together.
[01:16] <Daddy_D> Is it expensive to buy?
[01:16] <Melsen> buy what?
[01:16] <Daddy_D> the book
[01:16] <kosh> no idea, I did not even know there was a kubuntu book
[01:16] <Melsen> Oh.. no idea
[01:17] <Melsen> havent had use for it
[01:17] <kosh> _andy___: sorry no idea on that one, but I doubt that anything supports all of its features, kopete probalby supports many of them
[01:17] <Melsen> this channel is filled with helpful people
[01:17] <Melsen> and google works wonders
[01:17] <farous>  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[01:17] <_andy___> kk ty :)
[01:17] <farous> sorry about that wrong chan
[01:18] <abac> subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[01:19] <_andy___> how can i add shortcuts to the kde prog menu ?
[01:20] <Melsen> hrmm
[01:20] <Melsen> I can't make amarok play anything
[01:20] <Melsen> mplayer and kaffeine works fine
[01:21] <_andy___> oooo wut u use for downloads on nix ?
[01:21] <Melsen> waddya mean?
[01:24] <_andy___> like what p2p packages can i download + install ?
[01:25] <tijn_> kosh if iam configing stuff, i like to be root
[01:25] <kosh> tijn_: I am sorry but that is a boneheaded idea
[01:26] <tijn_> :)
[01:26] <kosh> tijn_: the system has built into it the ability to do anything you need as root as needed without doing everything as root
[01:26] <Melsen> How do I make amarok use a different engine than gstreamer?
[01:26] <Melsen> Only gstreamer available in the selection, and I already installed that engine pack through adept
[01:26] <tijn_> kosh i know, but i just dont like it
[01:26] <Hobbsee> Melsen: settings, configure amarok, engine
[01:26] <Melsen> Only gstreamer is showing there
[01:26] <Melsen> and that wont play my mp3's for some reason
[01:27] <tijn_> maybe if i was running ubuntu on a server
[01:27] <Melsen> even though my other players plays them fine
[01:27] <tijn_> but normal @home use..
[01:27] <Hobbsee> Melsen: install amarok-xine
[01:27] <kosh> Melsen: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[01:27] <Hobbsee> you'll need it in dapper anyway
[01:27] <tijn_> but all my servers are debian so..
[01:27] <_andy___> wut p2p programs is there i can download and install ?
[01:27] <Melsen> kosh: I already have that
[01:27] <Melsen> still not selectable
[01:28] <kosh> sudo apt-get install libxine1c2 xine-ui
[01:28] <_andy___> wuts that ?
[01:28] <Melsen> "What" is that
[01:29] <CarstenP> hi! how can i install java 1.5 ?
[01:29] <Melsen> kosh: I still cant select Xine inside amarok
[01:29] <Melsen> !ubotu tell CarstenP about java
[01:30] <kosh> Melsen: very strange, did you restart amarok after you installed that stuff? note that when you close the window amarok does not close sicne it runs in that little quickbar area so you need to right click on it and close it from there
[01:30] <Melsen> Yes yes.. right clicked the icon in the quickbar and chose quit
[01:30] <bert_> Melsen: you most probably nned to install Mp3 lib file, Amarok plays mp3's for ne OK with the gstreamer engine
[01:30] <Melsen> still only shows 'GStreamer' in the engine.. so I can chose between that and none
[01:31] <Melsen> all my mp3 plays fine from the other players I got
[01:31] <Melsen> mplayer, xmms and so on
[01:32] <bert_> Only shows gstreamer in mine, but plays OK, install the mp3lib files
[01:33] <melonipoika> #kubuntu-es
[01:33] <Ahmuck> can i build source code in kubuntu ?
[01:33] <melonipoika> uy, sorry :D
[01:35] <Ahmuck>  can i use kubuntu as a server or is it a user only os ?
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: yes, you can build source if you install a compiler and necessary development tools, normally by installing build-essential
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: and I'm using kubuntu on 4 servers, although I did server install on them and no GUI is installed.
[01:38] <Ahmuck> what does the server install get you from kubuntu ... i am confused, isn't kubuntu all about the gui
[01:38] <Ahmuck> so, build-essential includes the tools for building programs from source, ok
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: any linux distro has the same basic things, and that's all the server install gives you. The basic system w/o gui and gui apps.
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: right, build-essential includes the compiler, but there may also be libs and -dev packages you will have to install to compile some apps which require includes from other packages.
[01:39] <Ahmuck> un, understood ... that is what i thought
[01:40] <Ahmuck> i assume that adept has server packages listed ?
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: I don't think they are listed as such. Server install is just a minimal install set, after you have server install done you have to hand pick the packages based on the type of server you want.
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: ie. for a mailserver you'll want postfix (likely), for web apache, for ftp vsftpd, but those don't all get installed automatically.
[01:42] <Ahmuck> for the mta, exim with horde for web mail, etc.
[01:42] <Ahmuck> which can be done via adept >
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> right, or if it's a true non-gui install just use apt-get or aptitude from the command line to install packages.
[01:44] <kosh> all of the debian based dists work the same
[01:44] <kosh> a server based install is just a minimal install since on a server you don't want uncessary software installed
[01:45] <LeeJunFan> Ahmuck: if you aren't going to install a GUI on the machine you will still want to install the xserver client stuff, sshd and configure sshd to forward X, then you can install GUI apps on the server and run them from a remote machine over ssh.
[01:45] <LeeJunFan> That is if you plan to run GUI apps on your server from remote. Personally I'd just stick to using apt-get.
[01:45] <kosh> LeeJunFan: I would not recommend doing that
[01:46] <kosh> LeeJunFan: I would use the cli for remote work instead of installing more software on a server then is needed
[01:47] <LeeJunFan> kosh: I agree. Although I had to get cups up and running on one server and configuring printers in cups is lame with the web interface disabled. So I installed kdeprinter :)
[01:50] <kosh> configure it and then remove it :)
[01:51] <Melsen> Hey.. now I can see the xine engine.. I had that 'first time run wizard' thingie in amarok
[01:51] <Melsen> then after that, I went to the configuration.. and then I could see the xine engine.. how odd was that?!??!
[01:53] <twinoatl> hi
[01:53] <twinoatl> I found some bug in daily generated ubuntu. Where can I talk about this ?
[01:54] <kosh> daily generated?
[01:54] <Melsen> the #ubuntu channel?
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> I think it's time I look at horde/imp, been using squirrelmail for years.
[01:55] <twinoatl> kosh: you can download daily generated ubuntu/kubuntu isos
[01:55] <twinoatl> kosh: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[01:55] <twinoatl> Melsen: ok, I will try
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> twinoatl: first do your updates and make sure it's not already fixed, then file a bug report. Check the wiki or faq on ubuntu.com
[01:57] <Cyberwal83> uhm.. I wanna set up my mx1000's buttons and have to edit xorg.conf, but where is that file <.<
[01:57] <twinoatl> LeeJunFan: it is in the first menu when booting the cd
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> twinoatl: ah, I'd take it to the devel mailing list then.
[01:58] <twinoatl> LeeJunFan: no report to launchpad then ?
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> twinoatl: Probably that too.
[02:00] <twinoatl> LeeJunFan: ok
[02:00] <twinoatl> LeeJunFan: thanks
[02:09] <Cyberwal83> hey, I tried that evdev method of configuring my mx1000.. doesn't work
[02:09] <Cyberwal83> any other method, or do I have to configure the buttons now somewhere?
[02:09] <vitek> !w32codecs
[02:09] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:17] <vitek> !lame
[02:17] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vitek
[02:18] <ubijtsa> Cyberwal83: xorg.conf is in /etc/X11
[02:19] <vitek> !mjpegtools
[02:19] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vitek
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> try !info
[02:22] <_david> hello, do you know what lines should be in /etc/apt/sources.list? I have this for instance: deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted  but it gives errors on sudo apt-get update
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: what errors?
[02:22] <_david> like this: bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.
[02:23] <_david> and Failed to fetch http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) that
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: leave it a few minutes and then try again
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> a few minutes=20
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> if it still doesnt work, try taking off the nl bit
[02:23] <_david> ok, thanks
[02:28] <stjepan> whats ubuntu's kde dir? (in slackware it is /opt/kde)
[02:29] <_david> I thin it's just /usr
[02:30] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: is it normal that all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list are commented afrer a install?
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: yes, only the cd is uncommented
[02:31] <stjepan> I have got a "problem".
[02:31] <stjepan> I like mac osx style desktop, but it isnt very functional and usable
[02:32] <stjepan> windows like desktop isnt very functional too
[02:32] <stjepan> what desktop style do you prefer?
[02:32] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: ok
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> stjepan: 'style'? like bar at top or bottom? or theme?
[02:33] <stjepan> Kamping_Kaiser: everything
[02:33] <stjepan> especialy panel s
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> stjepan: i like gnomes layout *in general*
[02:34] <stjepan> windows like desktop (bottom taskbar) is too small and it isnt possible to put some applets there
[02:34] <stjepan> Kamping_Kaiser: may I see your desktop pls?
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> stjepan: it's an almost plain ubuntu setup, just with more stuff in the pannels
[02:35] <stjepan> heh
[02:36] <stjepan> Kamping_Kaiser: I want a desktop environment which is as easy to use as windows :)
[02:36] <stjepan> but none of them are
[02:36] <kosh> no system is as easy to use as the one you already know
[02:36] <tid-wave> double clicking "System Services" in System Settings will crash System Services ...
[02:37] <kosh> tid-wave: single clicking won't
[02:37] <tid-wave> and if I click administrator mode the widget inside is empty
[02:37] <tid-wave> I cannot set anything
[02:37] <tid-wave> it's just a red border and nothing inside
[02:38] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: so does that mean that someone who doesn't know how to edit that file can't get security updates etc?
[02:38] <tid-wave> kosh: i know that, but that's still bad behaviour (crash)
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: you can turn on repositories using synpatic and i think (in kde) adept
[02:39] <cion> hey all how do I remove (forced) a broken language pack?
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> cion: run `sudo apt-get -f install` to let ubuntu try and fix itself
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi jpatrick
[02:39] <jpatrick> hello Kamping_Kaiser
[02:40] <cion> ok Ill try
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:40] <stjepan> what do you think of http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/23535-1.jpg
[02:40] <kosh> http://aesaeion.com/mydesk  that is my current desktop
[02:41] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: I removed the nl. bit but still errors on sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <_david> do you know what that could be?
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: can you pastebin the lot of them, and your sources.list file?
[02:41] <_david> ok 1 moment
[02:43] <kosh> so what do you think of my desktop?
[02:43] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: here's the url: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aqR17C26.html
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok.
[02:44] <_david> note that I can ping archive.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <_david> A long time ago I had installed debian and had the same problem
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> strange. your sources list is fine
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: you sure your instal lfinsihed ok? can you run `sudo apt-get -f install ` to make sure
[02:48] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: it gives these erors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/yrUO0A44.html
[02:49] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: during the install it hanged like half an hour at testing network repository and networ security repository
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> 5 minutes is ok. half an hour is not...
[02:49] <treyh0> wtf is http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/23535-1.jpg
[02:50] <treyh0> i can't tell if that's linux or os x
[02:50] <treyh0> heh
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:50] <kosh> I guess that nobody likes my desktop ;)
[02:50] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: o, so I should reinstall?
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: it's strange that your getting the same error with both.
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> it may be a gzip issue, but don't quote me (I'm afraid)
[02:51] <_david> yeah, and also that I had the same problem with debian like 2 years ago, I moved on to another distro back then
[02:51] <treyh0> is there a kubuntu amd64 channel or something
[02:52] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: anyway, thanks for your help :)
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: sorry about that :/
[02:56] <_ganymed> hallo
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:57] <jpatrick> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings/16-02-06
[03:00] <_david> Kamping_Kaiser: My provider has some kind of filter (solcon) to block porn etc, could it be that it filters those mirrors (by mistake) and that thats also why debian dind't wor a long time ago?
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> _david: that's quite possible, if they are blocking the filetypes Debian is trying to transfer. i don't know the softwrae at all though
[03:01] <_david> I will google around to see if more people have it, afaik they only blokc url/ip adresses
[03:04] <treyh0> why does kubuntu use lipstick as the default theme?
[03:04] <treyh0> its ugly :/
[03:04] <jpatrick> to make it look different (visually)
[03:05] <treyh0> i like the default configuration aside from that though
[03:05] <treyh0> its pretty neat
[03:06] <treyh0> i can install it on a computer for someone and not have to spend 10 years configuring it
[03:06] <_david> I dont think it's ugly but I prefer plastik
[03:06] <cion> hey all how come firefox looks so bad on KDE?
[03:06] <jpatrick> cion: because it's a gtk app
[03:06] <_david> cion it's written in another toolkit, gtk and not in qt, so it looks different, you can mae it look like a kde app thought
[03:06] <cion> david: how?
[03:07] <_david> there a program for it, gtkqt-engine or somethijhg like that, but I dont know what it is called on kubuntu
[03:07] <cion> it's a package u mean?
[03:08] <_david> it's a program, but there probalby is a kubuntu package for, yes
[03:08] <treyh0> the package you want is called  gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[03:09] <treyh0> you can then set it up in the kde control panel under appearance
[03:09] <treyh0> to "use the same style/font as KDE"
[03:09] <treyh0> i thought that was installed by default on kde
[03:09] <treyh0> i mean
[03:09] <treyh0> kubuntu
[03:09] <cion> it is
[03:09] <cion> i'm just noob on linux world ;)
[03:10] <treyh0> :)
[03:10] <cion> kde is a lil bit crashy than gnome why?
[03:10] <cion> I'm having problems that I didn't had on Gnome
[03:10] <treyh0> kde is more stable than gnome for me
[03:10] <treyh0> cept for amarok
[03:10] <treyh0> that thing crashes more than windows98
[03:10] <cion> I think it's more elastic
[03:10] <cion> lol
[03:11] <cion> what do u use instead of amarok?
[03:11] <treyh0> mpd
[03:11] <treyh0> i have a server set up with my music on it and play music with mpd
[03:11] <treyh0> then can use gmpc or a web based app to control it
[03:11] <treyh0> www.musicpd.org
[03:11] <cion> ok listen, is it possible to uninstall default kde software i don't need?
[03:12] <treyh0> amarok is sure neat though.  i think it crashes because of gstreamer.
[03:12] <cion> cool
[03:12] <treyh0> i would imagine, you can use Adept in kubuntu
[03:12] <cion> how bout configuring ubuntu or kubuntu from server installation?
[03:13] <treyh0> aptitude
[03:13] <cion> ?
[03:13] <treyh0> aptitude is the command line version
[03:13] <cion> for?
[03:13] <treyh0> Description: terminal-based apt frontend
[03:13] <treyh0> to let you install/uninstall programs
[03:13] <treyh0> etc
[03:14] <cion> dude I have no idea what ur talkin bout lol, is there something i can read?
[03:14] <treyh0> lemme see...
[03:14] <treyh0> www.ubuntuforums.org is good :)
[03:15] <cion> so once installed server i need to make every thing with aptitude?
[03:15] <treyh0> make everything?
[03:15] <treyh0> aptitude is just for installing/removing packages
[03:15] <cion> install
[03:15] <cion> ok
[03:15] <cion> one by one?
[03:15] <treyh0> you can use plain 'apt-get'
[03:15] <treyh0> nah it's pretty easy
[03:15] <treyh0> open up a terminal and fire it up
[03:15] <treyh0> or log in to console
[03:15] <treyh0> aptitude is nice :>
[03:16] <cion> ok
[03:16] <cion> well thx man
[03:16] <cion> c 'ya ;)
[03:16] <treyh0> :)
[03:23] <jpatrick> hello kkathman
[03:23] <kkathman> hi jpatrick
[03:25] <kkathman> jpatrick:  im upgrading atm to Dapper
[03:25] <jpatrick> cool :)
[03:25] <kkathman> hope it works
[03:25] <treyh0> how does dapper relate to debian sid in terms of stability/instability?
[03:34] <pm> new kde 3.5.2, is it worth upgrading/
[03:35] <jpatrick> pm:  it's not out
[03:35] <pm> it is
[03:35] <_mindspin> I just did and I am ok with it
[03:36] <jpatrick> 3.5.2?
[03:36] <pm> _mindspin, thanks
[03:38] <jpatrick> pm: maybe 3.5.1?
[03:38] <pm> 3.5.2
[03:39] <_mindspin> !3.5.2
[03:39] <ubotu> 3.5
[03:40] <jpatrick> pm: i have no idea what you're talking about
[03:42] <pm> jpatrick, i'm talking about kde 3.5.2
[03:42] <jpatrick> pm: it has not been released
[03:42] <pm> it has
[03:42] <jpatrick> unless you want the SVN
[03:42] <jpatrick> so where's the announcement?
[03:44] <eero> i am on kubuntu. is it possible that my motherboard could stop the creation of /dev/dsp, cause I've got no sound and dsp?
[03:44] <jpatrick> eero: can you see your sound card in KInfoCenter?
[03:45] <eero> no information found
[03:45] <jpatrick> then the kernel can't see it
[03:45] <jpatrick> what card do you have?
[03:46] <kkathman> jpatrick:  dapper crashed :(
[03:46] <kkathman> oh well
[03:46] <jpatrick> :(
[03:46] <kkathman> card?
[03:46] <jpatrick> kkathman: i was talking to eero :)
[03:46] <eero> some integrated one, but i think "designed for windows" has something to do with it?
[03:47] <_mindspin> which kde version do you use?
[03:47] <kkathman> nah it removed all this stuff...then came up and  said...KDM is running, and in order to complete the install, i needed to close it..I did...it stopped
[03:47] <eero> kubuntu 5.10 so is that kde 3.4
[03:47] <kkathman> so I have. basically, a non-Gui system now
[03:48] <jpatrick> kkathman: 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' ?
[03:48] <kkathman> gives "not authorized"
[03:48] <eero> how do i make the kernel to see the card?
[03:48] <jpatrick> eero: by loading it's module
[03:49] <jpatrick> which I can't find without knowing what your card is
[03:50] <eero> oh yes, and there is another problem: when i have any cards in PCI-slots, the hotplug subsystem hangs!
[03:50] <eero> boot time
[03:51] <jpatrick> :/
[03:52] <eero> is that a casual problem?
[03:52] <jpatrick> Sometimes hotplug hangs...
[03:52] <eero> why?
[03:52] <jpatrick> no idea
[03:53] <_mindspin> i had trouble with acpi
[03:54] <_mindspin> it gave me strange graphik effekts and shut occ pcmcia regulary
[03:54] <stjepan> hi
[03:54] <eero> Mine hangs every time when something is in PCI slots. Could it have something in common with my integrated sonud card problem?
[03:54] <_mindspin> after disabling it the problems vanished
[03:54] <eero> "linux acpi=off" works for me
[03:54] <stjepan> I installed kubuntu. KDE desktop is very unfinished. And there are stupid view profiles in konqueror. KMenu is not very good designed. :( What do you think?
[03:54] <_mindspin> that was  the solution for me
[03:55] <_mindspin> I like kde since 1.xxx
[03:55] <jpatrick> stjepan: see FAQ at kubuntu.org
[03:55] <eero> I think KDE is good for beginners. And you can edit the K-menu...
[03:56] <_mindspin> eero: what would you suggest for advanceds?
[03:57] <eero> Konsole :)
[03:57] <eero> in KDE surely. I mean KDE is great; it has everything one needs
[03:58] <eero> But HOW can I disable hotplug then?
[03:59] <eero> And I can't even read DVDs with my dvd-drive!
[04:00] <eero> Either my motherboard or Kubuntu sucks. Every other distro has worked fine on my machine!
[04:04] <eero> What's the problem? Do I have to move to  bare Debian again; it couldn't automount usb-fs-cards. And Kubuntu DOES NOTHING!
[04:04] <Vge> onee eero, you have found distro thats not good for ya ;)
[04:04] <Vge> vitu onnee
[04:06] <eero> Wich one do you use by yourself?
[04:06] <Vge> kubuntu runs nice and smooth in my laptop
[04:06] <Daddy_D> I've been thinking, do you think its possible some times to have a bad installation of kubuntu, therefore causing a lot of issues?
[04:07] <Daddy_D> Because I might try to reinstall and see if some things will simply go away/
[04:07] <Vge> Daddy_D: you checked that your cd is ok?
[04:07] <Daddy_D> Then again, I could always wait for the next release in april
[04:08] <Daddy_D> I did use that command to see if the numbers match yes
[04:08] <eero> onneepa hyvinki, but i tought Kubuntu would work fine for me! I've installed Kubuntu 10 times and always had the same issues and problems.
[04:08] <Daddy_D> I see eero is giving me a hint
[04:09] <eero> no, i didn't.
[04:10] <Daddy_D> Ok let me explain. Yestuday I finally sort out my issue with the gateway by using the command line to type it as the GUI didnt like it or aknowledge. I restarted and all of a sudden no internet again. So i check the options and I see no gateway displayed. I go to konsole type route add default gw blablabla and it works. I even save it as profile but still dostn remember when reboot.
[04:10] <Daddy_D> There is always the option to leave it on DHCP and not hassle with this.
[04:11] <eero> what is the subject?
[04:11] <Daddy_D> lost IP's during reboots
[04:12] <Daddy_D> and some settings in general I guess
[04:12] <Vge> eero: have you tryed BUM (Boot Up Manager)?
[04:12] <eero> And unrecognized soundcard, dvdfs,... what's that BUM?
[04:12] <Vge> http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[04:13] <liquidindian> Hello, is there any site that could tell me the advantages of KDE over Gnome (& vice versa)?
[04:14] <liquidindian> (I'm assuming it's a question you get here a lot)
[04:15] <eero> Yes, and one thing: how can i get the "apt-get" on Kubuntu to seek debs from the whole ubuntu reposities?
[04:15] <jpatrick> liquidindian: KDE has a LOT more features
[04:15] <ines> eero: adept is kde's synaptic. But you can use synaptic, and apt-get in kubuntu.
[04:15] <eero> adept has only about 4000 packages!
[04:16] <jpatrick> eero: enable universe
[04:16] <jpatrick> !sources
[04:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:16] <liquidindian> jpatrick: Is Gnome easier?  I'm a bit new but playing around with things.
[04:16] <jpatrick> liquidindian: GNOME was ...ok but I so badly prefer KDE
[04:17] <jpatrick> + I'm an MOTU KDE
[04:17] <eero> gnome doesn't look as candy, but you might find it more useable
[04:17] <Daddy_D> KDE looks better, you can modify it a lot so you get exactly what you want. Where GNOME I think is more for admins who want to concetrate on productivity rather than looks. In GNOME everything is more simple I guess.
[04:18] <liquidindian> MOTU?
[04:18] <Daddy_D> You can still manage it just as good but you might as well start from KDE.
[04:18] <vijay> hi everybody, i inserted bluetooth device into usb drive, but i dont know how to access it???
[04:18] <jpatrick> !motu
[04:18] <ubotu> hmm... motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[04:18] <eero> In a nutshell!
[04:19] <Daddy_D> is there a Linux bible?
[04:19] <liquidindian> Ahh.
[04:20] <jpatrick> :)
[04:24] <malte> does anyone know if it's possible to rotate the view in x.org? i've a tft monitor which can do this, but then i need x.org to follow after :)
[04:24] <malte> so instead of 1280x1024 i want 1024x1280
[04:25] <Daddy_D> I think custom resolution is not a problem because you can type the numbers you wany
[04:26] <malte> oh, but it's not only the resolution i want to change.. i want the whole view to flip 90 degrees :)
[04:26] <Daddy_D> Hmm, my mistake. It seems that was possible on Mepis when I tried the live CD
[04:26] <Cyberwal83> wee
[04:27] <Cyberwal83> back and forward work like they're supposed to
[04:28] <malte> Daddy_D: mkay, thanks.. i'll google around some more :)
[04:29] <Daddy_D> I didnt said much, but Im a noob too so I dont know how you could change those settings
[04:30] <Daddy_D> unless it can be done specifically from command line
[04:31] <m0wax> I can't get my vncserver on ubuntu to use kde can anyone help?  I think its something to do with my ~/.vnc/xstartup configuration
[04:32] <jpatrick> m0wax: why not use the KDE apps for VNC?
[04:32] <m0wax> I don't think I have them installed, how would I access them?  I originally installed ubuntu and then just downloaded kde, if that makes any difference
[04:33] <_mindspin> has anyone a glue why firefox is so instable after switching to breezy ?
[04:33] <jpatrick> m0wax: K-menu -> Internet -> Krdc & Krfb
[04:33] <m0wax> _mindspin I had this problem as well.  I just downloaded and installed manually the most recent firefox and it seems to work fine
[04:34] <_mindspin> mmmh
[04:34] <m0wax> only problem is that you can't then apt-get install firefox-mplayer-plugin (or whatever) and have it work
[04:34] <ragna> !enlightment
[04:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ragna
[04:34] <_mindspin> did you uninstall the old one?
[04:35] <m0wax> jpatrick yeah I don't have that.  How would I get it?  Can I apt-get it?
[04:35] <m0wax> _mindspin yup
[04:35] <jpatrick> m0wax: yes
[04:35] <_mindspin> and saved your bookmarks first ;-)
[04:36] <m0wax> It was a fresh install so I didn't have any......I think it might just leave ~/.mozilla anyway
[04:36] <m0wax> but don't hold me to that
[04:36] <_mindspin> that came to my minsd too
[04:36] <_mindspin> Ill keep it and will make a backup copy first
[04:37] <m0wax> jpatrick: Are those packages not just for the client side of things?  I am looking to setup a server on my ubuntu box
[04:37] <m0wax> _mindspin good idea
[04:37] <jpatrick> m0wax: one's a client the other's a server for VNC
[04:39] <m0wax> jpatrick: thanks works a treat.  Any idea of I can create invititations from command line and wether I can setup a permanent password?
[04:39] <jpatrick> m0wax: it's all in the configation
[04:39] <kyo> wow, KDE is much much better then Gnome =)
[04:40] <m0wax> jpatrick: thanks
[04:40] <jpatrick> :)
[04:41] <Daddy_D> sorry malte, I was looking in the book but couldnt find anything regarding resolution.
[04:45] <fit4lfe> help need with xwindows and dapper
[04:45] <fit4lfe> can anyone help me out on this
[04:45] <_mindspin> !dapper
[04:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[04:46] <fit4lfe> I understand that but it is the only way to get xgl to work
[04:47] <fit4lfe> forget it I''m just going switch back to breezy
[04:49] <fit4lfe> !xgl
[04:49] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:51] <_mindspin> bleeding edge is ....
[04:51] <_mindspin> ah hurts sometimes
[04:51] <ragna> how can i make a safe uninstall of KDE???
[04:51] <benkong2> question. I dual boot kubuntu & gentoo every time I let updater do a dist-upgrade it grabs the gentoo vmlinuz kernel and uses it as the kubuntu kernel. How can I prevent this?
[04:54] <Daddy_D> heh, if you want the latest all the time Windows is your only option :P
[04:57] <Daddy_D> Ones I made a software disk with apps I considered vital. After 1 year they were so out of date I simply said I will never waste another CD for things like this.
[04:57] <Psi-Jack> Daddy_D: Same thing for Windows, even when you slipstream them. :)
[04:58] <Psi-Jack> And, besides. That's what CDRW or better, DVD-RW is for.
[05:04] <Blixou> bonjur y a du monde ?
[05:04] <Blixou> ousp bonjour*
[05:20] <ita_> ciao
[05:23] <simone> hi everybody
[05:23] <Daddy_D> I should have installed windows xp made with Nlite tools so I can remove most of the drivers and just make it a lot smaller.
[05:23] <Daddy_D> Could have saved so much space doing so
[05:23] <simone> I have a problem compiling qemu from source: the solution is to use /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include, but I don't know how to apply this solution :-)
[05:23] <simone> any help?
[05:23] <Daddy_D> I forgot
[05:28] <kyo> whats the command to fetch the lastest update?
[05:29] <_mindspin> slightly offtopic, where can I change the size of firefoxes menu fonts?
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> apt-get upgrade
[05:29] <seezer> kyo: the latest update of? everything updateable? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:30] <kyo> Well everyone is off to lunch :)
[05:30] <seezer> _mindspin: gnome-font-properties
[05:30] <_mindspin> nope
[05:30] <kyo> ah, thanks seezer , hatake_kakashi
[05:30] <_mindspin> I changed it with no effect
[05:30] <seezer> restarted firefox?
[05:30] <_mindspin> I think I have to to it in chrome or somewhere
[05:31] <_mindspin> yep
[05:32] <kyo> when I install / upgrade new stuff, there isn't a need to reboot, right?
[05:32] <seezer> hm. i my knowledge about this comes from suse at work, here my fonts are fine. but i bet this has to work on kubuntu too.
[05:32] <hatake_kakashi> kyo: depends, if its kernel, you need to reboot for it to take effect
[05:32] <_mindspin> it worked before but for stability reasons i installed firefox from mozilla.org
[05:33] <seezer> kyo: reboot is only needed after a kernelupdate. i would also suggest a fresh login into kde after upgrading.
[05:34] <kyo> I see.
[05:35] <kyo> er, ubuntu can unzip .rar files right?
[05:35] <_mindspin> seezer: you were right, I was in the false menu Gnome-font properties did the trick...
[05:35] <Psi-Jack> kyo: You mean unrar? Yes.
[05:35] <jpatrick> hey Psi-Jack
[05:36] <kyo> unrar? Hmm ....
[05:36] <kyo> so what would the command line to unzip a .rar file?
[05:36] <Psi-Jack> You don't unzip a rar, because it's not zipped. You don't unzip a tar, because it's not a zip. You unrar a rar, and you untar a tar.
[05:36] <hatake_kakashi> kyo: I don't think under standard installations do have it, try 7zip or winrar
[05:36] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: Morning'
[05:36] <_anilk> trappist: hi
[05:36] <trappist> hi _anilk
[05:36] <jpatrick> Psi-Jack: I see you plan to do some packaging :)
[05:36] <_anilk> trappist: i upgraded to dapper
[05:36] <trappist> I'm sorry to hear that
[05:36] <_anilk> trappist: it removed my kde
[05:36] <seezer> _mindspin: tell me if you're settings stay after a reboot. i read the gnome/gtk fontsize is calculated by display-size values read from xserver.
[05:36] <_anilk> trappist: but apt-get install kde gets it back
[05:37] <trappist> you want apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <seezer> got a little crappy setup at work and after every reboot my settings are gone
[05:37] <_anilk> trappist: just that it did not do it by default
[05:37] <_mindspin> haha I won't reboot until in 5hours ;-)
[05:37] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: Yes. I have a lexmark-z600 package almost ready. The only thing I have a problem with left, is how to seperate the _orig and diff to build the debian tree over the _orig contents.
[05:37] <_anilk> trappist: when i tried 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' it gave some krita related dependency error
[05:38] <seezer> _mindspin: i'm no windoze installer ;) just tell me whenever you restarted.
[05:38] <_mindspin> sure
[05:38] <_anilk> trappist: remaining things are going fine. just updated you on what happened. thanks a lot.
[05:38] <jpatrick> Psi-Jack: right....
[05:38] <trappist> _anilk: glad to hear it
[05:38] <trappist> _anilk: enjoy!
[05:38] <_anilk> trappis: bye !
[05:39] <simone> Problem compiling qemu from source: the solution is to use /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include, but I don't know how to apply this solution :-) help?
[05:39] <hatake_kakashi> kernel source or kernel headers
[05:40] <hatake_kakashi> in fact, in that case, its more likely kernel-headers
[05:40] <kyo> jpatrick: I see ...
[05:40] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: Hehe. And it's a binary package, so .. I dunno. Right now, I just have the tar of the binary usr/* tree inside the debianized tarball, which the debian/rules untars to it's unified debian/<packagename> directory, and sets up some symlinks, and stuff. It /works/.  I just don't think the ubuntu/kubuntu packaging guys would like it like that.. I dunno. LOL
[05:40] <seezer> trappist: you're running dapper? do you know if there is a known issues list somewhere?
[05:41] <trappist> seezer: there's malone, the replacement for bugzilla
[05:41] <_anilk> simone: qemu worked for me
[05:41] <_anilk> simone: but then i was running my own compiled kernel.
[05:42] <seezer> trappist: ah, thx.
[05:43] <tid-wave> I don't have any timezones in the list :(
[05:43] <tid-wave> and time is set to UTC
[05:43] <tid-wave> both tzconfig and System Settings display no timezones/regions
[05:46] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:47] <jpatrick> slow-motion: hello
[05:47] <jpatrick> Psi-Jack: heh
[05:47] <slow-motion> hi jpatrick
[05:48] <simone> _anilk: I following this ubuntuforums' thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66694
[05:49] <simone> I have an error, than in another place is solved, but they simply say: I use "/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include instead". Instead of what????
[05:50] <simone> I don't understand how to apply this solution... I'm not an expert in this kind of things.
[05:50] <simone> btw, when I "make" it, it gives me an error.
[05:50] <_anilk> simone: hmm
[05:51] <simone> I'm sure I need to edit the "configure" file
[05:51] <simone> and replace something with /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include
[05:51] <simone> but... ??? I'm simply lost
[05:55] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: Heh. I guess, it would actually even be better, if I could somehow "transform" the original Lexmark-provided tarball into the whole thing somehow. Probably the best means, from a licensing standpoint, huh? :-/
[05:55] <jpatrick> ok
[05:55] <jpatrick> yep*
[05:56] <Psi-Jack> I guess when I get back in a few mins, that'll be what I'll try for. heh
[06:01] <GameCat> can anyone advise me on changing video card? nvidia geforce 4 > nvidia FX 5500
[06:02] <GameCat> can I just swap them and reboot (will it be reconfigured?) or is there more to do?
[06:05] <jshadow> Gamecat: I did a similiar swap a while back and needed no extra config changes
[06:06] <jshadow> mine was from a geforce 4 to some kind of FX, and it worked right away, no changes
[06:06] <GameCat> jshadow: thats good news, thanks
[06:06] <jshadow> np
[06:06] <GameCat> here goes :)
[06:13] <nowotny> hello... anyone here using quanta editor...?
[06:26] <Daddy_D> I have fx5500 too
[06:26] <Daddy_D> so no need to change default drivers from kubuntu?
[06:28] <GameCat> jshadow: it worked fine, and everything runs lovely - ta for the advice
[06:28] <Daddy_D> Oh and another thing. This is more concerning thos who play games. Do you have any overcloking programs for video cards?
[06:30] <jshadow> GameCat: cool, no prob
[06:31] <jshadow> Daddy_D: are you using the nv or the nvidia driver? nvidia would be the one you want for gaming
[06:31] <Cyberwal83> hey..
[06:31] <Cyberwal83> is there a reason that I can't run wine with sude when I select arts sound?
[06:32] <Daddy_D> I have no idea
[06:32] <Daddy_D> how do I find out?
[06:32] <jshadow> you're probably running nv then, you'll want to install the package nvidia-glx
[06:33] <Daddy_D> ok I will do it now
[06:33] <jshadow> then in a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org"
[06:33] <kkathman> just make sure your card is supported
[06:33] <Cyberwal83> when I run TA Spring with sudo and OSS sound, everything works but sound <.<y
[06:33] <kkathman> if you dont, you'll be in a world of hurt
[06:33] <jshadow> this is true
[06:33] <jshadow> though I think all FXs would be ok
[06:34] <sniff> peeps
[06:37] <Daddy_D> I dont understand I guess the command you told me is right but when I click in adept install nvidia-gix nothing much happenes really
[06:37] <erhan_R> hi
[06:37] <Daddy_D> I cant understand this adept
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[06:38] <hupp3l> how do I add new hardware in ubuntu?
[06:38] <hupp3l> or rather kubuntu?
[06:38] <seezer> Daddy_D: you first set all your wishes - install,update,uninstall. then click 'preview changes' and 'commit changes'
[06:39] <Daddy_D> aaah, I better paste what the message is because I think there is something wrong with x server not the nvidia drivers
[06:39] <hatake_kakashi> apt-get, synaptic, kynaptic, adept, aptitude, etc
[06:39] <Daddy_D> oh ok maybe this will hhelp
[06:40] <seezer> hupp3l: what are you trying?
[06:40] <hupp3l> I have a new wireless card
[06:40] <hupp3l> for my laptop
[06:40] <hupp3l> I have an internal one(broadcom)
[06:41] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: it should be detected under kernel, check via lspci
[06:41] <hupp3l> and bought an airlink101 for $7
[06:41] <hupp3l> I want to install the airlink101
[06:41] <Daddy_D> jshadow-afk:  http://pastebin.com/559829
[06:41] <hupp3l> but its not working, I mean i probably need to install the driver?
[06:41] <Daddy_D> this is what I get when I type the command you gave me
[06:42] <Daddy_D> seezer, thanks dude. Now I know why I could never intstall anything
[06:42] <hupp3l> nope i dont see it under lspci
[06:42] <seezer> Daddy_D: ;)
[06:43] <Cyberwal83> uh
[06:44] <angasule> is anyone here good with font issues?
[06:44] <Cyberwal83> a game just set my screen res to 640x how do I set it back?
[06:44] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: I presume its plugged in under pcmcia right? check to see if you did not disable pcmcia detection at boot
[06:44] <seezer> Cyberwal83: ctrl alt + or ctrl alt -
[06:44] <Daddy_D> brb
[06:45] <Cyberwal83> ctrl alt + or - do nothing :(
[06:45] <hupp3l> well i put it in after i booted
[06:45] <hupp3l> how do i check if i disabled it?
[06:45] <Cyberwal83> ok got it :O
[06:47] <Cyberwal83> ok.. so is there a way to make wine use alsa and not rts? I looked around on winehq but I must be blind
[06:48] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst| grep pcmcia
[06:49] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: if the output returns nothing, then I presume its not disabled. If its not disabled, check dmesg| tail
[06:50] <hupp3l> do i hav to wait long for an output?
[06:50] <hatake_kakashi> no
[06:50] <tilo> 'ello
[06:50] <hatake_kakashi> its usually immediately
[06:51] <hupp3l> do i have to type that whole command?
[06:51] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: of course
[06:51] <noteventime> I have a problem, since I upgraded to dapper drake I have idle CPU usage at 40-70%
[06:51] <hupp3l> cat/boot/grub/menu.lst|grep pcmcia?
[06:51] <noteventime> I can't find the process in KSysGuard
[06:52] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: there is a space between cat and / as well as after |
[06:52] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: cat is a command
[06:52] <hupp3l> o ok
[06:52] <noteventime> cat /dev/mouse ;)
[06:53] <hupp3l> ok
[06:53] <hupp3l> no output
[06:53] <hatake_kakashi> noteventime: cat /proc/kcore ;)
[06:53] <noteventime> hehe
[06:53] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: ok, do dmesg| tail
[06:53] <noteventime> . /dev/mouse whas wrong but you get the point
[06:53] <hupp3l> what do I look for in that output?
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: look for something to do with pcmcia or new card, etc
[06:54] <hupp3l> card inserted into slot 0
[06:54] <noteventime> Could someone help me find out what process is taking up the CPU?
[06:55] <Spudchat> noteventime: top
[06:55] <noteventime> aha
[06:55] <Spudchat> noteventime: it will show you what is using the most cpu in real time
[06:55] <noteventime> hmmm.... something is wrong
[06:56] <noteventime> the highest only is 1%
[06:56] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: more info?
[06:56] <noteventime> while ksysguard tells me 50% is used
[06:56] <hupp3l> cs: pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power.
[06:56] <hupp3l> [4350689.692000]  pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 0
[06:56] <Spudchat> by one process or in total?
[06:56] <noteventime> total: 50% and in top i see three processes with 3% each
[06:56] <hupp3l> i guess it cant apply power to that slot?
[06:57] <noteventime> 1% each i mean
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: not sure, I think something doesn't seem too right, check with the forums
[06:58] <hupp3l> thank you for trying to help me
[06:58] <hupp3l> im not supposed to install the driver?
[06:58] <noteventime> Some has any more ideas ^^
[06:59] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: check with lspci.. I presume there is no mentioning of that card brand?
[06:59] <hatake_kakashi> noteventime: you presume that there is something churning away your CPU usage?
[07:00] <Spudchat> noteventime: im lookin at my ksysqaurd and its a lot like yours, top shows only a few at a couple percent, but ksysgaurd shows 50% is in use
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> wait.. isn't ksysguard process monitor?
[07:00] <noteventime> yes
[07:00] <noteventime> But it monitors CPU usage
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> well, quit that, goto konsole and run 'top'
[07:01] <Spudchat> ksysgaurd says "performance monitor" next to it
[07:01] <noteventime> I'm not runnign ksysguard
[07:01] <hupp3l> hatake_kakashi:  no there isnt
[07:01] <noteventime> i did :), but not while using top
[07:01] <Spudchat> and according to top its using 10% of my cpu eheh
[07:01] <noteventime> My superkaramba thingy also shows me 50% usage
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: looks like something is wrong with it, the laptop is not giving the pcmcia device power imo, try plugging it to another pcmcia slot or retry again
[07:02] <noteventime> And yes i was using superkaramba before uppgrade
[07:02] <hupp3l> i only have one pci slot on my laptop
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: well retry plugging it again
[07:03] <hupp3l> do I need to restart the laptop before plugging in or can I just plug it out and in
[07:04] <noteventime> hupp3l: Are you running Kubuntu on an Laptop?
[07:04] <hupp3l> yes
[07:04] <noteventime> Do you use WPA?
[07:04] <Daddy_D> hey you know that thing you said about the nvidia driver? It was true. I havent got linux anymore
[07:04] <hupp3l> no right now only wep
[07:04] <noteventime> ok
[07:04] <Daddy_D> it fails to boot during start up
[07:04] <hupp3l> why?
[07:05] <noteventime> Just wanted to know if you had as much problems as me trying to get it to eork :)
[07:05] <hupp3l> o ok what wireless card are you using?
[07:05] <seezer> Daddy_D: what does it tell you?
[07:05] <colm> is there a repository for koffice 1.5beta?
[07:06] <Daddy_D> hmm I need to take a look
[07:06] <noteventime> Some centrino packaged
[07:06] <hupp3l> hatake_kakashi: it says PCMCIA: socket d55ef828: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power
[07:06] <noteventime> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[07:06] <seezer> colm: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice15beta1 breezy main
[07:06] <hupp3l> o
[07:07] <colm> seezer, thanks.  want a shot of that krita CMYK ;-)
[07:07] <noteventime> I cant use the Intel drivers any more...
[07:07] <Cyberwal83> great
[07:07] <Cyberwal83> Cedega won't even start the game
[07:07] <Cyberwal83> wonderful
[07:07] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: hmm
[07:08] <noteventime> Doent matter though, general drivers work fine
[07:08] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: well I'm not too sure, it maybe an issue with the kernel I think
[07:08] <Daddy_D> module dependanices, mounting local file system, syncronizing clock to ubuntu.com, and some random number generator has failed
[07:08] <seezer> colm: things i'll never (try) to understand. but nice that not everyone needs to be an artist ;)
[07:09] <hupp3l> hmmm ok. im going to keep it in and restart and try my luck
[07:09] <hupp3l> thanx again
[07:09] <seezer> Daddy_D: but not because of nvidia-glx, for sure
[07:09] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: couldn't be much of a help I'm afraid, I never used laptop to that extent
[07:09] <seezer> nvidia driver is loaded after all those messages
[07:09] <Daddy_D> FATAL: Could not open lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep.temp for writting: Read-only file system   [fail] 
[07:09] <noteventime> Is dapper drake xgl accelerated, my desktop feels much faster anyway
[07:10] <hupp3l> its ok
[07:10] <seezer> Daddy_D: hm. what else did you install? can you see any 'can't mount bla on foo' messages?
[07:10] <hupp3l> o is there a way to automate my connect to my wireless
[07:10] <noteventime> in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:11] <hupp3l> i have broadcom and have to ifconfig up it everytime
[07:11] <noteventime> add auto YOUR_NEWORK_CARD
[07:11] <noteventime> and if you have to run some script prior to it just run pre-up SCRIPT_NAME
[07:11] <hupp3l> add command not found
[07:11] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: you need to edit that file with a text editor
[07:11] <noteventime> add into the file :)
[07:12] <hupp3l> o lol
[07:12] <Daddy_D> seezer, when I press shift +up it dosent go up. I will restart again and see if I can find another failuer
[07:12] <Daddy_D> I dont remember installing anything else
[07:12] <Daddy_D> it worked fine before
[07:13] <seezer> did you check 'preview changes' before actually committing?
[07:13] <Daddy_D> no
[07:13] <seezer> shouldn't break it anyway, but you could know if you got another kernel now
[07:13] <hupp3l> do i also just add the scripts I use into that file?
[07:13] <Daddy_D> well I think the rest is ok. Only this error which I believe is the kernel
[07:14] <seezer> did you use a selfbrewed kernel?
[07:14] <seezer> (before)
[07:14] <noteventime> if you need to run a script first you can use pre-up SCRIPT
[07:14] <Daddy_D> I use the default kernel that comes with kubuntu
[07:14] <Daddy_D> I've only used linux for 2 days
[07:15] <hupp3l> how do I create a script?
[07:15] <Daddy_D> I guess I did try to install VideoLan which said BRAKE-Install
[07:15] <Daddy_D> and then gave me error anyway that could not be installed
[07:15] <seezer> it can't mount your root partition - this most likely due to your kernel not recognizing the used filesystem. but with default kernel this should work..
[07:15] <Daddy_D> I dont think this is the reason
[07:15] <seezer> can you try the 'failsafe' bootmode?
[07:16] <Daddy_D> I have another HD inside I will see if it will work after unpluging it
[07:16] <Daddy_D> ah yeah good idea
[07:16] <Daddy_D> I will give it a go
[07:16] <seezer> did you plug the additional HD right before your last boot?
[07:17] <Daddy_D> no i did it like this afternoon and rebooted many times before this
[07:17] <hupp3l> how do I create a script?
[07:17] <Spudchat> what kind of script?
[07:17] <Daddy_D> I think it was just after I did the nvidia drivers....who knows
[07:17] <seezer> Daddy_D: ok. so check failsafe please.
[07:17] <Spudchat> a bash shell script or what?
[07:18] <colm> seezer, i'm not an artist either.  just need to send something to the printers in cmyk format...  without paying the adobe charges hopefully!
[07:18] <hupp3l> a script to do a bunch of commands
[07:18] <Daddy_D> ok I cant even access recovery mode
[07:18] <seezer> colm: hmkay ;)
[07:18] <noteventime> just write them into a textfile
[07:18] <seezer> Daddy_D: same thing?
[07:18] <hupp3l> ok cool
[07:19] <Spudchat> start with !#/bin/bash and go from there
[07:19] <noteventime> ............^- needs to be first line
[07:19] <Daddy_D> hmm, it did ask me for root password I pressed Ctrl D and different errors appeared
[07:19] <Daddy_D> wait, I will type them in.
[07:19] <seezer> no - just read the text above
[07:19] <seezer> and tell me
[07:19] <hupp3l> what does that mean neventime?
[07:20] <noteventime> hehe, nothing
[07:20] <noteventime> Just ignore that
[07:20] <hupp3l> ok
[07:20] <hupp3l> and i save it as a text file?
[07:21] <noteventime> You can save it without extension
[07:21] <noteventime> Or use sh
[07:21] <seezer> hupp3l: better try it with a 'echo hello world' first ;)
[07:21] <Spudchat> eheh
[07:22] <noteventime> is KOffice better than OpenOffice? (In your opinion)
[07:23] <hupp3l> and do i need to add the sudo thing infront of each command?
[07:23] <noteventime> Actualy i dont know, but i dont think so
[07:23] <noteventime> i think the script is run as root
[07:24] <Daddy_D> Ok, read what lines aboe?
[07:24] <hupp3l> ok cool
[07:24] <noteventime> But better ask someone who knows :P
[07:24] <Daddy_D> oh wait
[07:24] <seezer> Daddy_D: there is an explanation why you have to insert your password
[07:24] <Daddy_D> Im in kubuntu now but command line only
[07:24] <hupp3l> how do i save the script if I need root access?
[07:25] <vge> hmm, whats the console alternatinve to KDE:s network "enable device", "sudo ifup eth0"?
[07:25] <noteventime> I think the scipt after pre-up is run as root
[07:25] <Daddy_D> can I reload the kernel somehow
[07:25] <seezer> Daddy_D: ah. ok. in failsafe? or the normal bootmode?
[07:25] <Daddy_D> failsafe
[07:25] <noteventime> what is the adress for the amaroK 1.4 beta 1 repo?
[07:26] <hupp3l> no thats not what i meant . When i try to save the script it says error writing FILENAME; permission denied
[07:26] <noteventime> aha
[07:26] <noteventime> run kate as root
[07:27] <noteventime> kdesu kate or sude kate
[07:28] <seezer> Daddy_D: ls /lib/modules/ shows you how much entries?
[07:28] <Daddy_D> it shows 2.6.12-9-386
[07:29] <vge> adome is not in the repos? :)
[07:29] <seezer> ok - so just one kernel - no update done there
[07:29] <Daddy_D> yes
[07:29] <Daddy_D> I got one and I broke it already
[07:29] <Captainbraille> Can Kaffeine play wmv files?
[07:30] <seezer> i'd need to know the first error messages.. can you look for it in /var/log/kern.log?
[07:30] <seezer> Captainbraille: with the correct ugly codecs installed, yes
[07:30] <Daddy_D> hmm permission denied
[07:30] <Daddy_D> if u give me a second I will log in as a root and find out
[07:31] <seezer> Daddy_D: these files are just for the admin of this box - try with sudo
[07:31] <Captainbraille> seezer: what would you reccommend for wmv files then?
[07:31] <seezer> Captainbraille: w32codecs
[07:31] <seezer> Captainbraille: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[07:32] <seezer> add this to your sources.list and you'll be able to install them with apt-get
[07:32] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody has idea to make krusader's ftp feature like the totalcommander's ftp ? I mean it the account window, where i can select an account and conenct it...
[07:32] <seezer> (after apt-get update)
[07:32] <MetaMorfoziS> And i not must type all thimes my pw and username
[07:32] <Captainbraille> ohh, okay
[07:33] <Captainbraille> thanks seezer!
[07:33] <Captainbraille> seezer: should I still use Kaffeine or a different player?
[07:33] <seezer> Daddy_D: gonna get some oil from the basement. i'm freezing.. i'll be back in about 15 minutes
[07:34] <Daddy_D> ok no problem
[07:34] <Daddy_D> Im here
[07:34] <seezer> Captainbraille: i like and use kaffeine. it's "just" a kde gui for xine and mplayer afaik. those alone are good too.
[07:34] <seezer> videolan is worth a try too
[07:35] <seezer> ok, cu later guys
[07:35] <Captainbraille> seezer: ohh, okay, and I'm using the GStreamer engine, will that work too?
[07:38] <hupp3l> videolan is awsome
[07:38] <hupp3l> use that
[07:38] <Captainbraille> videolan?
[07:38] <hatake_kakashi> vlc
[07:38] <hupp3l> VLC
[07:38] <hatake_kakashi> !tell Captainbraille about vlc
[07:39] <hupp3l> tbh it is probably the best video player out there
[07:39] <hupp3l> apt-get install vlc
[07:39] <Daddy_D> that wont do anything
[07:40] <seezer> hupp3l:  (if you know just those available for windows) ;P
[07:40] <seezer> now really gone..
[07:40] <Daddy_D> you must add in source.list the webpages and type sudo apt-get update then apt-get install vlc
[07:40] <hatake_kakashi> !info vlc
[07:40] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[07:40] <hupp3l> well yeah just add the backports
[07:41] <Daddy_D> but I didnt know that and was wondering why it gives me errors
[07:42] <hupp3l> ok
[07:42] <hupp3l> sorry i shouldnt assume
[07:42] <Daddy_D> I know it says on the VLC webpage but after I started wondering why I cant modify the source.list
[07:42] <Daddy_D> there is always something. And by the way I still havent installed it :P
[07:42] <hupp3l> y not?
[07:44] <hupp3l> really there hasnt been one video type that i couldnt play on vlc
[07:44] <Daddy_D> Because I just rebooted after installing some Nvidia drivers or something and I dont have linux anymore
[07:44] <noteventime> i havn't got mvk working
[07:44] <noteventime> matroska
[07:44] <noteventime> mkv*
[07:44] <Daddy_D> Im waiting on seezer to help me out when he puts oil in the heater
[07:46] <Daddy_D> but Im so hungry I also might disappear and do it a bit later
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> !mkv
[07:47] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:47] <Daddy_D> not good impressions with linux so far :(
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> noteventime: probably you can play it via vlc
[07:48] <poningru> Daddy_D: whats wrong?
[07:48] <morrow> hrm.. my workstation only boots with kernel option irqpoll...
[07:52] <seezer> re
[07:53] <Daddy_D> hey seezer even when I log in as root a I still dont have permission to see the kern.log
[07:54] <hatake_kakashi> ubotu: mkv is Matroska video format. You can play it with vlc, see !vlc
[07:54] <ubotu> okay, hatake_kakashi
[07:54] <seezer> Daddy_D: what did you type?
[07:54] <hatake_kakashi> !mkv
[07:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, mkv is Matroska video format. You can play it with vlc, see !vlc
[07:54] <Daddy_D> root@kubuntu:~# /var/log/kern.log
[07:55] <seezer> this would execute the file
[07:55] <Daddy_D> Permission denied
[07:55] <Daddy_D> oh
[07:55] <seezer> but a logfile is hardly executed
[07:55] <seezer> try with an editor: vim /var/log/kern.log
[07:56] <poningru> hatake_kakashi: do you know how to mount an iso file?
[07:56] <hatake_kakashi> poningru: you mount it via -o loop
[07:56] <poningru> ah loop gotcha
[07:56] <poningru> thanks
[07:56] <hatake_kakashi> poningru: np
[07:56] <Daddy_D> err how do I quit the editor?
[07:57] <hatake_kakashi> Daddy_D: which editor?
[07:57] <Daddy_D> vi
[07:57] <hatake_kakashi> Daddy_D: :q to quit, :q! to not save and quit. :x to save and quit
[07:57] <Daddy_D> phhew
[07:57] <poningru> hatake_kakashi: wow didnt know about x
[07:57] <poningru> :x that is
[07:58] <hatake_kakashi> poningru: heh help pages are always handy
[07:58] <hatake_kakashi> but I prefer to use vim instead of vi
[07:58] <poningru> true
[07:58] <Daddy_D> anyway, so the line says error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vimrc:  line 58   E483 Can't get temp file name
[07:59] <hatake_kakashi> Daddy_D: did you try putting something without saving the file?
[07:59] <noteventime> The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.??!?!?
[07:59] <Daddy_D> nope
[07:59] <hatake_kakashi> !tell noteventime about mp3
[07:59] <hatake_kakashi> Daddy_D: hmm
[07:59] <noteventime> i have installed win32codecs
[08:00] <Daddy_D> I am really starving now. seezer can I get back to do this in a bit?#
[08:00] <Daddy_D> If you have skype it might be even easier man
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> noteventime: you probably have to edit specific bindings I think.. not sure exactly how, check with gstreamer-engine source? or google?
[08:00] <Daddy_D> if you can help the better
[08:01] <seezer> i could take a look through ssh if you want
[08:01] <Daddy_D> ssh?
[08:01] <seezer> but first have to shower or my girlfriend will beat me later
[08:01] <Daddy_D> yeah ok Im gonna eat too so I will see you in about 1 hour or so
[08:01] <Daddy_D> I will pm you or something
[08:02] <seezer> alright
[08:02] <Daddy_D> chao
[08:02] <seezer> enjoy your meal
[08:02] <hupp3l> where do I copy my wallpapers to?
[08:02] <seezer> bye
[08:02] <hupp3l> or rather where is the wallpapers located @?
[08:03] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: why? do you want to make it accessible to everyone?
[08:03] <hupp3l> no I want to get other wallpapers and copy it there
[08:04] <hupp3l> i like the sarcasm hatake_kakashi
[08:04] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: no I meant accessible to all users
[08:04] <hupp3l> o lol
[08:04] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: its probably under /usr/share/kde/wallpapers.. just go configure desktop and then select set wallpaper or something
[08:05] <hupp3l> ok thank you
[08:05] <hatake_kakashi> hupp3l: np
[08:06] <phipa> ?
[08:06] <hupp3l> i tried to install firefox using apt-get
[08:06] <colm> seezer, got cmyk going now.  This should be shouted from the rooftops!  thx
[08:06] <hupp3l> and it went through but there is nothing on my menu
[08:06] <hupp3l> is there something else i need to do?
[08:07] <vge> well better would be to install the 1.5 version
[08:07] <vge> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:08] <hupp3l> ok will try
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> hupp3l: if you are under kde you need some other things for the base firefox feeling:)
[08:18] <noteventime> What?
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> search @ kde-look.org for the following things: Kdialog , Winterfox
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> and you need some theme, like noia because the base gtk skin isn't nice (i think:))
[08:19] <fit4lfe> what is the easiest way to get remote desktop from a windows box to kde
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> and hupp3l  apt-get install msttcorefonts
[08:22] <tid-wave> every time i install something with apt-get i get this warning:
[08:22] <tid-wave> Can't exec "locale": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 16.
[08:22] <tid-wave> Use of uninitialized value in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 17.
[08:22] <LeeJunFan> fit4lfe: krdc - kde remote desktop client
[08:26] <fit4lfe> k
[08:32] <hupp3l> how do I link an icon to an application?
[08:33] <hupp3l> like I made a shortcut to the panel but it doesnt show the nice firefox icon
[08:34] <hupp3l> nevermind
[08:34] <hupp3l> i got it
[08:35] <slow-motion> bbl
[08:39] <_ganymed> hallo
[08:41] <Captainbraille> How do I configure my soundcard to set up ALSA?
[08:44] <seezer> Captainbraille: if you didn't change it before, you're already running it
[08:44] <kkathman> alsa normally runs by default
[08:44] <Captainbraille> seezer: I try to run ALSA with amaroK but it won't work, I don't hear anything, but OSS works
[08:46] <seezer> hm perhaps muted in 'alsamixer'?
[08:46] <Captainbraille> lemme check
[08:48] <noteventime> have you tried arts?
[08:49] <Captainbraille> I tried it before, it was working
[08:49] <Captainbraille> seezer: center was muted, but it's unmuted now, and it's still not playing =\
[08:50] <seezer> and master+pcm are set to somethinge above zero right?
[08:50] <seezer> something
[08:50] <Captainbraille> seezer: both at 81
[08:52] <seezer> hm. but anyway, this should be the oss emulation of alsa
[08:53] <dumezil> anyone know if the package unison is available?
[08:53] <seezer> i think the default kernel just got alsa in it since alsa can emulate oss. mut you can listen to music while searching the forums for better help ;)
[08:53] <seezer> dumezil: yes it is
[08:54] <dumezil> why doesn't it show up in adept for me then?
[08:54] <seezer> dumezil: did you update your sources?
[08:55] <_ganymed> hi. i have tried on the debian channel... no luck, so i'll try here. when i boot my pc with a 2.6.13 kernel i get random kernel panics with the message: "Code: Bad EIP value:" any ideas what could cause this?
[08:55] <dumezil> yep...  running 5.10 breezy badger or whatever
[08:55] <dumezil> doing an apt-cache search unison returns no results either
[08:57] <JohnFlux> btw, katapult is pretty damn cool
[08:58] <seezer> dumezil: http://nopaste.php-q.net/192630 this is my sources.list
[08:59] <Daddy_D> hey seezer im back
[08:59] <seezer> from you're magical journey
[08:59] <Daddy_D> wanna take a look at the problem?
[08:59] <seezer> your..
[08:59] <Daddy_D> eh
[08:59] <Daddy_D> heh
[09:00] <seezer> second
[09:00] <Daddy_D> do you want me to pm you?
[09:01] <seezer> ok
[09:02] <dumezil> what does the universe and multiverse in sources.lst do?
[09:03] <seezer> these are special repositories. check out kubuntu dokumentation for further information
[09:04] <Daddy_D> ah I cant pm
[09:04] <Daddy_D> its disabled in freenode?
[09:05] <crimsun> you can't pm if you're not identified
[09:05] <Daddy_D> mm k
[09:05] <Daddy_D> seezer do you want to do this over skype?
[09:06] <seezer> Daddy_D: join channel #daddy-seezer
[09:06] <_ganymed> ok, now i get: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference... kernel panic. any ideas?
[09:07] <Daddy_D> k
[09:23] <tilo> 'ello again, is there any repo that has the, more or less, newest CVS version of mesa
[09:27] <tilo> Anyone here tried Compiz?
[09:32] <trappist> who was it in here that wanted feedback on the amarok1.4 beta1 packages?
[09:34] <dumezil> when i try some of the opengl screen savers, they only show up on the top half or third of my display?  anyone konw why?
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> at configure i have this
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[09:34] <trappist> wow, never seen that one.  what video card?
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i have qt4-core
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> why it needs qt?
[09:35] <trappist> you need libqt3-dev and/or libqt3-headers
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> i have libqt3-dev
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> but libqt3-headers not found
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> no...
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> so i have these:
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> libqt3-headers
[09:36] <trappist> lame.  I guess the next step is to peek into the configure script and see how it's checking for it, or ./configure --help and see how to specify the location of the qt headers.
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> libqt3-mt-dev
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> ahm
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> (i'm lame, you spoke good)
[09:37] <trappist> :)
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> --with-qt-includes=DIR  where the Qt includes are.
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS>   --with-qt-libraries=DIR where the Qt library is installed.
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i find qt?
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> whereis returned null
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> whereis libqt3-mt-dev
[09:38] <trappist> dpkg -L libqt3-dev | grep include
[09:39] <trappist> or libqt3-mt-dev, if it'll accept those
[09:39] <trappist> that's for the headers.  for the libs, dpkg -L libqt3-mt | grep /lib/
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> it said, the libqt3 isn't able to setup but it writen a list about libqts that can replace it
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> but i have all of these installed
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> dpkg -L libqt3-mt | grep /lib/
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> returned ~30 lines of *.so
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> and other
[09:41] <trappist> you want to give the configure script the directory those .so's are in
[09:41] <trappist> and .a's etc.
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> copy it?
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> copy the installation files to the so-s directory?
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> or reverse?
[09:51] <_ganymed> ciao
[09:52] <osh_> I'm thinking of building a website for my family, it needs to be easy to update and maintain so I'm looking at some blog-software to do the job. Anyone got any hints on which blog/wiki to choose? Wordpress/XOOPS/Something else?
[09:55] <mae> any kde equivalent to ekiga or gnome meeting?
[09:57] <jpatrick> Konference
[09:57] <mae> it does sip also?
[09:57] <slow-motion> re
[10:02] <wickers> anyone here also in #ubuntu?
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> yes why?
[10:03] <noteventime> yes
[10:03] <wickers> I'm banned out of it for some reason
[10:03] <wickers> (no idea really)
[10:03] <noteventime> I am... Why do you wonder?
[10:03] <noteventime> ok :/...
[10:03] <wickers> how would I got about talking to an op there?
[10:04] <noteventime> Dunno :)
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[10:04] <wickers> I have not logged into #ubuntu in like half a month, so I have no idea how/why I (or maybe my ISP) has been banned.
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> wickers: you were banned by Seveas
[10:04] <wickers> And I'm not a dick or anything...
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <wickers> usually I try to help people.
[10:05] <wickers> so I'm surprised
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> you were banned by nickname
[10:05] <wickers> nickname or Seveas?
[10:06] <noteventime> Is anyone of you using dapper drake?
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> Seveas is the one who banned you
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> noteventime: not I, I'm still on breezy
[10:06] <noteventime> ok
[10:06] <noteventime> Im trying to get compiz to work right now, if it would it would be nice :)
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> wickers: you're probably banned because someone abused your nickname or I don't know
[10:07] <wickers> well I'm talking to him now.
[10:07] <wickers> thanks
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> np
[10:08] <morrow> !ntfs
[10:08] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:08] <noteventime> :) Hope the new packages include new mesa
[10:10] <yann> Hello
[10:10] <mae> heh can someone have an sip video chat with me? i want to test my webcam :)
[10:11] <yann> Looking to install Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, but I can not find a suitable entry to put into my sources.list. I run breezy. I found a doc to install manually, but I would prefer to have most of my softs installed through apt-get install.
[10:12] <yann> Would you have a suggestion ? Thx
[10:12] <noteventime> Firefox shouldnt be a prob installing from the original tarball because it has autoupdates builtin
[10:13] <yann> noteventime: even if run as a standard user? The auto-update goes to the user home, under .mozilla ?
[10:13] <noteventime> It worked for me anyway :)
[10:17] <slow-motion> yann whait a second and i can give you my sources.list
[10:18] <yann> slow-motion: ok, I wait ;-)
[10:19] <noteventime> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing... This is becauce of "old" mesa, right?
[10:19] <slow-motion> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/560184 < here is it yann
[10:20] <yann> got it, thx!
[10:22] <yann> Oups, I have to go. Thanks you all, bye !
[10:22] <noteventime> Bye
[10:23] <sebastian> folks
[10:23] <sebastian> why is kubuntu/ubuntu not playing wmv files?
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> !tell sebastian about wmv
[10:24] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: DUDDDDDDDDDDDDE!!! hey =D wazaap?
[10:27] <noteventime> sebasian: You need win32codecs
[10:27] <noteventime> from the PLF repositry
[10:28] <TiNePaS> hi
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> i have this
[10:28] <TiNePaS> I've a problem compiling the modules for lirc
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> any ideas?
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the problem?
[10:28] <TiNePaS> not compile
[10:29] <TiNePaS> :(
[10:29] <TiNePaS> the make don'r find the kenrel source
[10:29] <_mindspin> !gcc
[10:29] <ubotu> I guess gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:30] <TiNePaS> mmm
[10:30] <TiNePaS> the assistan don't find the kernel source
[10:30] <TiNePaS> is normal?
[10:31] <sebastian> i have win32codecs but still doesnt play wmv filesubuntu
[10:31] <MetaMorfoziS> you have gtreamer plugins?
[10:31] <MetaMorfoziS> and you have registered it?
[10:32] <sebastian> i have all the plugins
[10:32] <sebastian> and they are registered
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> have you got mplayer?
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> or totem?
[10:32] <sebastian> all of them
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> ok... idunno
[10:34] <_mindspin> TiNePaS: apt-cache pkgnames |grep kernel
[10:34] <sebastian> what worries me
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?
[10:34] <sebastian> is that ubuntu installs old version of win32 packages
[10:37] <TiNePaS> the make don'f find the kenrel source
[10:37] <TiNePaS> :(
[10:38] <jshadow> TiNePas: what kernel are you using?
[10:39] <TiNePaS> 2.6.12
[10:39] <jshadow> 386?
[10:39] <TiNePaS> for k7
[10:40] <jshadow> install the package linux-headers-k7 and then it should compile ok
[10:40] <TiNePaS> it is installed
[10:41] <jshadow> hmm, what is it you're trying to compile?
[10:41] <TiNePaS> a module
[10:41] <TiNePaS> for lirc
[10:41] <TiNePaS> when i install lirc-module-source
[10:42] <TiNePaS> it compile the module automatic
[10:42] <TiNePaS> but it don't find the kernel source
[10:42] <jshadow> do you have a symbolic link for /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-k7?
[10:43] <jshadow> or whatever the directory is
[10:43] <TiNePaS> i think yes
[10:43] <TiNePaS> wait a moment and I make it
[10:45] <TiNePaS> jshadow:
[10:45] <Generic> I'm curious, Is there a shell program that can boot Kubuntu off my external while I'm inside windows?
[10:46] <TiNePaS> i make the symbolic link
[10:46] <TiNePaS> ok?
[10:46] <TiNePaS> And now?
[10:46] <jshadow> ok, did that help?
[10:46] <TiNePaS> no
[10:46] <jshadow> try make again
[10:46] <TiNePaS> ok
[10:46] <Ashex> !enter
[10:46] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:47] <jshadow> also, ./configure again first
[10:48] <TiNePaS> sed: can't read /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory
[10:48] <TiNePaS> make: *** No rule to make target `binary-modules'.  Stop.
[10:48] <TiNePaS> this is the error
[10:49] <jshadow> yeah that would be a problem with the link then, you ran configure first before the make?
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> Is it possible to make ubuntu use nls_utf8 as default charset rather than nls_iso8859_1 and/or nls_cp437?
[10:50] <TiNePaS> hey jshadow
[10:50] <TiNePaS> this run
[10:50] <TiNePaS> but I have a new error :(
[10:50] <jshadow> TiNePas: Ok, what is it saying now?
[10:50] <TiNePaS> is : make: *** No rule to make target `binary-modules'.  Stop.
[10:51] <TiNePaS> I had a bad link
[10:51] <TiNePaS> but, now?
[10:51] <jshadow> hrm.. sounds like there's something wrong with the make file then, no other errors?
[10:51] <TiNePaS> no, only one
[10:52] <jshadow> afraid I don't know then, sorry
[10:52] <TiNePaS> ok,thank
[10:53] <TiNePaS> I have only one error now
[10:53] <TiNePaS> :)
[10:55] <Ashex> How would I use VMware to load kubuntu off my external?
[10:58] <poningru> Ashex: you would have to make a vmware image of that external hd
[10:59] <Ashex> I'd have to make an image of the entire hard drive? O.o
[11:02] <bodhi-baum> gibt es baghira eigentlich auch fr kubuntu?
[11:03] <inf3rno> I'm about to embark on setting up World of Warcraft under WINE in Kubuntu. Has anyone done this? I'm curious as to if I need to apply the custom patches to WINE and recompile as mentioned at various HowTo's, or to just install WINE stock as the Ubuntu Wiki says?
[11:03] <inf3rno> Hi folks
[11:03] <inf3rno> I'm about to embark on setting up World of Warcraft under WINE in Kubuntu. Has anyone done this? I'm curious as to if I need to apply the custom patches to WINE and recompile as mentioned at various HowTo's, or to just install WINE stock as the Ubuntu Wiki says?
[11:04] <inf3rno> mst
[11:05] <Ashex> So VMware allows you to running operating systems. But I need to have one thing clarified
[11:05] <Ashex> The operating system it runs, is the file it loads THE os? or is that file just an address for where the operating system is located?
[11:06] <mac__> how can I get a dvorak *layout* (not variant) in kubuntu? In Debian there's a seperate Dvorak layout, with its own flag and all...
[11:06] <mac__> instead in kubuntu I have to fudge stuff, having one US(basic varaint) layout, and another Canadian(dvorak variant), just to be able to switch between QWERTY and Dvorak...
[11:07] <mac__> (this is all within the KDE Keyboard Tool)
[11:16] <ice> does anyone have eclipse installed
[11:18] <ice> !eclipse
[11:18] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[11:26] <ricky_ds> Hi folks. Just converted from mandriva to kubuntu. Oh this feels sooo good.
[11:26] <cinder> which is the exec file for the kmenu?
[11:30] <SuperNova> doesnt anyone know how you can se what licens a progr is released under in synaptic?
[11:32] <angasule> hmm, I want libcurl.so.2 , but the default version is libcurl.so.3, how do I install an older version (I don't want to remove the current one, it's probably there for a reason)
[11:33] <MarcC> is there a way to run a split-view in Konqueror?
[11:33] <Ashex> How would I get VMware to detect my other hard drives?
[11:34] <angasule> MarcC: yes, hmm
[11:35] <angasule> MarcC: I don't remember the key combination
[11:35] <MarcC> angasule, if there is one, maybe I can find it
[11:36] <angasule> MarcC: there is, I'm sure, since I used it a couple of days ago, you could google, too
[11:36] <MarcC> ok, thanks
[11:36] <angasule> MarcC: I think it was ctrl+something, but not sure
[11:37] <tilo> :'( i cant get compiz to start
[11:38] <ricky_ds> MarcC: Ctrl-Shift-T for horizontal and Ctrl-Shift-L for vertical split
[11:41] <cinder> which is the exec file for the kmenu?
[11:41] <ricky_ds> cinder: you mean for editing the menu? or what do you want to do?
[11:41] <cinder> to run it
[11:41] <cinder> from kxdocker bar
[11:42] <noteventime> Is there any reason ro not use metacity for kde, apart from kwin being better?
[11:42] <ricky_ds> cinder: ah I see... no idea, sorry. I'm not even sure it is an executable per se...
[11:43] <cinder> :(
[11:43] <angasule> I want libcurl.so.2 , but the default version is libcurl.so.3, how do I install an older version (I don't want to remove the current one, it's probably there for a reason)
[11:43] <MarcC> ricky_ds, thank you
[11:44] <ricky_ds> MarcC: no prob. though now I don't remember how to remove a split view... :(
[11:44] <MarcC> doh :D
[11:45] <MarcC> oops, now I have like 5 split views!
[11:46] <MarcC> ricky_ds, Ctrl+Shift+R removes active view :)
[11:47] <ricky_ds> MarcC: thanks :)
[11:47] <MarcC> np
[11:48] <SuperNova> doent anyone know
[11:59] <cinder> does anyone knows how to change the icons for the iconbar?
[12:01] <angasule> I want libcurl.so.2 , but the default version is libcurl.so.3, how do I install an older version (I don't want to remove the current one, it's probably there for a reason)