[12:04] <dolson> well, it doesn't play the WMV file or an AVI file.. both play in Xine though. MP3s play in Totem now though, so hey, that's 1/3, better than before where it was 0/126
[12:21] <Psi-Jack> Heh, how would I potentially get drivers added into the ubuntu repositories? I'm bundling up the lexmark drivers, now, for the z600, and other series, to make them  generally more available.
[12:23] <dolson> Psi-Jack: you would package them up and upload the source files to REVU
[12:23] <Psi-Jack> REVU?
[12:24] <dolson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[12:24] <Psi-Jack> Gotcha.
[12:28] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. Odd..
[12:28] <Psi-Jack> Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, <STDIN> line 2.
[12:29] <minghua> Psi-Jack: do you have bzip2 installed?
[12:29] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. I bzipped that file myself, actually. heh
[12:32] <minghua> sounds like debian #314875, but that should be fixed already...
[12:32] <Ubugtu> Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
[12:32] <minghua> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314875
[12:33] <Psi-Jack> Well, I re-compressed it using gzip, and dh_make had no complaints. heh
[12:40] <Psi-Jack> In debian/control, if this is only available for 386 or better, what should Architecture be?
[12:41] <xerox_> I'd like to make an attempt in packaging libsvg-cairo.  (And possibly its -dev version too.)  Is there any advice you can give me, since I'm not fond at all about Debian packages?
[12:58] <LaserJock> xerox_: about that package specifically or packaging in general?
[01:06] <minghua> Psi-Jack: is it useful for other arch (e.g. powerpc) as well?
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> minghua: Nope. I'd guess not, since it's a lexmark binary printer driver. Hehe
[01:07] <minghua> Psi-Jack: arch:i386 means x86 architechture, from 80386 to Petium 4, actually
[01:08] <minghua> Psi-Jack: so you don't have source, just packaging some proprietory binary file, then?
[01:09] <Psi-Jack> minghua: Exactly.
[01:09] <ajmitch> hm
[01:09] <ajmitch> hit & run feature requests in -devel today
[01:09] <ajmitch> maybe flaws?
[01:09] <minghua> Psi-Jack: you can look at the package flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse, then, I don't have any experience on this myself
[01:10] <jsgotangco> perhaps
[01:10] <Psi-Jack> minghua: Hmm.. I see. That might work. :)
[01:12] <xerox_> LaserJock: specifically.
[01:12] <xerox_> LaserJock: I'm trying the combination dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage without much luck at the moment.
[01:13] <dolson> "Totem was not able to play this disc. No reason." cool! such helpful and descriptive information.
[01:14] <xerox_> LaserJock: turns out that libsvg-cairo needs libsvg, so I was starting with that last one, doing a dh_make -l and fixing the right spots in the produced files.
[01:14] <xerox_> LaserJock: unfortunately it does not compile, I have to check out what's the problem.
[01:15] <xerox_> LaserJock: well, it compiles with the usual 'sh configure && make' rite, but it fails under 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot'.
[01:15] <LaserJock> xerox_: I've got to leave right now for dinner. Try taking a look at the Debian New Maintainer's Guide if you haven't already and perhaps the Ubuntu Packaging Guide at doc.ubuntu.com
[01:16] <LaserJock> xerox_: and ask questions here if you get stuck
[01:17] <xerox_> LaserJock: will do.  Thanks again, good dinner!
[01:17] <LaserJock> xerox_: I'll probably been on later as well ;-)
[01:38] <fbond> dolson: here?
[01:38] <dolson> fbond: yup
[01:39] <tseng> please get rid of the whole auto-op script
[01:39] <fbond> hey, dssi should get synced from debian
[01:39] <dolson> good good.. did you see there's a new Rosegarden now?
[01:39] <fbond> yes
[01:40] <dolson> does it have dssi support built in now?
[01:40] <fbond> fluidsynth-dssi, hexter, xsynth will need to be brought in by me
[01:40] <fbond> it should, as soon as dssi-dev is available and the rosegarden maintainer enables it
[01:40] <fbond> (makes it a build-dep)
[01:40] <tseng> fbond: no scripts, please.
[01:41] <fbond> pardon?
[01:41] <dolson> ..
[01:41] <tseng> < tseng> please get rid of the whole auto-op script
[01:41] <fbond> I didn't know I had one
[01:41] <fbond> my client must do this automatically ... ?
[01:41] <tseng> you apperantly do, or asked chanserv nicely
[01:41] <tseng> in any case, make it go away
[01:42] <dolson> fbond: what client are you using?
[01:43] <tseng> ...
[01:43] <fbond> i don't know IRC very well
[01:43] <fbond> gimme a minute
[01:43] <fbond> i'll see what I can do
[01:43] <tseng> nevermind. its pretty rude but i give up
[01:43] <tseng> do what you'd like
[01:43] <tseng> nam
[01:44] <fbond> geez, gimme more than 30 seconds and I'll do what I can
[01:44] <fbond> i think that's relatively rude myself
[01:45] <dolson> if you want a different client, try irssi or xchat-gnome
[01:45] <fbond> i like my client just fine, thanks
[01:45] <lifeless> fbond: you are being opped by chanserv
[01:45] <lifeless> fbond: its not your client
[01:45] <lifeless> fbond: do a /msg chanserv help
[01:46] <lifeless> you'll need to readup on it, something like 'autoop'
[01:46] <tseng> it would alternatively help if anyone cared to fix the access list
[01:46] <lifeless> [it might possibly be your client, but if it was you would have had to configure it for this specific behaviour] 
[01:46] <tseng> so far that has not been the case
[01:47] <lifeless> tseng: are you in a bad mood or something?
[01:47] <tseng> ja
[01:51] <xerox_> LaserJock_away: no luck.  'deb-buildpackage -rfakeroot', after dh-make -l and some changes in debian/* files, leaves me with <http://pastebin.com/558742> no matter what I do.  I know it's not a complete information, but I'm really tired (01:50AM) and I must go to sleep now.  If you have some time and will to fiddle with those libs I'd appreciate it very much.  See you soon.
[01:59] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm. If I were going to depend on cups, what should I list as the depends?
[02:00] <Psi-Jack> I basically need to make this package depend on cups, and gs-esp.
[02:00] <Psi-Jack> And, the compatability libstdc++v3
[02:03] <fbond> siretart: has dssi been synced?
[02:24] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[02:25] <Psi-Jack> It's almost perfect. :D
[02:26] <marcin`> hello MOTUS
[02:26] <marcin`> need a little help
[02:26] <marcin`> could someone tell me what is preferred way for installing webapp on apache server?
[02:27] <marcin`> I got package with webapp and currently I just create symlink
[02:27] <marcin`> /usr/share/mywebapp -> /var/www/mywebapp
[02:28] <marcin`> but I know that it propably should be done in some other way
[02:28] <marcin`> could someone help with this problem?
[02:29] <Psi-Jack> In the debian/rules file, what would be the best way to handle making symlinks? I'm trying to symlink /usr/lib/liblexprinter.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/liblexprinter.so.0
[02:30] <Psi-Jack> Because lexmark's original binary tarball, doesn't have the so.0 links. LOL
[02:30] <marcin`> Psi-Jack: dh_link?
[02:30] <Psi-Jack> marcin`: oh.. Quick example? :)
[02:31] <Psi-Jack> Nevermind. I think I got it. :)
[02:31] <marcin`> Psi-Jack: dh_link source target
[02:31] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. virtual source and target. not actual.
[02:33] <minghua> Geez, why does a printer driver need to install a library in /usr/lib?
[02:34] <Psi-Jack> minghua: Heh. Because they made libraries for them? heh
[02:36] <Psi-Jack> Excelent. now all I need is postinstall and postrm scripts and this'll be ready.
[02:39] <minghua> Psi-Jack: sure, but my point was why couldn't they put it in /usr/lib/lexmark/ or something
[02:40] <Psi-Jack> heh, well, I dunno. LOL
[02:40] <Psi-Jack> They made them unique, at least. liblex*
[02:41] <Psi-Jack> And between the various lexmark printer drivers, they probably share some commonality.
[04:01] <zakame> hi all
[04:27] <Psi-Jack> In a postinst script, is there any "standard" means to /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, or should I just have it call that as-is?
[04:38] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: use invoke-rc.d
[04:39] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, okay. :)
[04:40] <crimsun> as in this template:
[04:40] <crimsun>         if [ -x "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d" ] ; then
[04:40] <crimsun>                 invoke-rc.d wpasupplicant start 2>&1 3>&1 || true
[04:40] <crimsun>         else
[04:40] <crimsun>                 /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start 2>&1 3>&1 || true
[04:40] <crimsun>         fi
[04:40] <crimsun> (obviously cupsys there...)
[04:41] <Psi-Jack> Cool. Even beyyer. :)
[04:45] <Psi-Jack> Heh. Then, now, all I need is to figure out how to make the .dsc file, and I'm set.
[04:47] <ajmitch> you shouldn't need to make a .dsc file
[04:47] <ajmitch> building the source package should be enough
[04:48] <Psi-Jack> Well, I'm building a package from a binary-only source, so, and debian/rules binary doesn't seem to make the .dsc file.
[04:48] <crimsun> debuild -S
[04:49] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[04:49] <Psi-Jack> debsign failed. :/
[04:49] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, probably because of my email. Odd..
[04:51] <ajmitch> even a 'binary-only' source is built in the normal way
[04:51] <Psi-Jack> I've been.. Using fakeroot debian/rules binary
[04:51] <Psi-Jack> But, it still fails on debsign..
[04:52] <Psi-Jack> Secret key not available, yet... I know I setup my GPG key.
[04:53] <Psi-Jack> Or should I even bother, and leave this up to REVU to sign and all?
[04:53] <ajmitch> it has to be signed to upload to REVU
[04:54] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, okay..
[04:55] <ajmitch> debuild -S -kKEYID
[04:55] <ajmitch> where KEYID is your gpg key id
[04:57] <Psi-Jack> There we go
[05:00] <LaserJock> anybody know if there is a bzr irc channel?
[05:01] <ajmitch> #bzr, funnily enough
[05:02] <LaserJock> ajmitch: doh, should've tried that
[05:02] <ajmitch> :)
[05:36] <ajmitch> hm
[05:36] <ajmitch> why have people made this ebuntu, but haven't seemed to have made the effort to get packages into ubuntu proper?
[05:37] <ajmitch> very very irritating
[05:59] <chillywilly> ello
[06:01] <chillywilly> what's ebuntu?
[06:02] <LaserJock> enlightenment+ubuntu I think
[06:02] <LaserJock> or rather an E17ized ubuntu
[06:02] <jsgotangco> it doesn't seem to use ubuntu sources at the moment though
[06:03] <jsgotangco> or part of it
[06:05] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: I'm talking to the guy now, inviting him to put his packages on REVU
[06:06] <jsgotangco> cool
[06:08] <LaserJock> ajmitch: how many packages did he do? just E17 packages or is there more?
[06:08] <ajmitch> LaserJock: just E17 stuff at the moment, I think
[06:09] <jsgotangco> lots of bling lately
[06:11] <ajmitch> oh yes
[06:11] <ajmitch> so we might have E17 packages on REVU in a couple of days, not sure if they'll get in by feature freeze or nor
[06:11] <ajmitch> s/nor/not/
[06:13] <ajmitch> uh oh
[06:13] <Lathiat> thatd be good
[06:13] <ajmitch> E17 debs are checkinstall
[06:13] <Lathiat> hahaha
[06:13] <ajmitch> sigh
[06:14] <TheMuso> yuck
[06:14] <LaserJock> why not? I'm sure we could make a FF exception for them ;-)
[06:15] <ajmitch> :P
[06:15] <minghua> any MOTU can check bug 29724 and sponsor the upload?  It's about a CJK font package.
[06:15] <Ubugtu> malone bug 29724 in xfonts-mona "xfonts-mona installs font to wrong directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/29724
[06:16] <minghua> and I wonder if there is any apt-proxy user here
[06:16] <ajmitch> minghua: sadly yes
[06:17] <ajmitch> ok, the ebuntu guy is going to try & do a crash course in debian packaging
[06:17] <ajmitch> I guess it might take a little longer :)
[06:17] <minghua> ajmitch: I synced with Debian's apt-proxy today, which works for me
[06:18] <ajmitch> minghua: and?
[06:18] <ajmitch> do we have changes that we should drop?
[06:18] <minghua> ajmitch: I don't know enough python to make an educated decision though, whether to cherry pick the patch or ask for UVF exemption
[06:18] <ajmitch> what are the ubuntu changes?
[06:19] <minghua> ajmitch: oh, by "sync" I actually mean "merge"
[06:19] <ajmitch> ok
[06:19] <minghua> ajmitch:   * Ubuntu changes:
[06:19] <minghua>     - doc/apt-proxy.conf:  Set min_refresh=1s.
[06:19] <minghua>     - debian/init.d:  Use LSB init-functions.
[06:19] <minghua>     - debian/install:  Install into python2.4 dirs instead of python2.3.
[06:19] <minghua> that's from my debian/changelog
[06:21] <ajmitch> ok
[06:21] <ajmitch> give it to someone for review, like your fonts debdiff
[06:21] <minghua> ajmitch: you mean the merge debdiff, right?
[06:21] <ajmitch> yes
[06:21] <minghua> I'll post it to the bug then
[06:22] <minghua> I think I still need to polish it a bit
[06:22] <ajmitch> great
[06:22] <ajmitch> maybe pinging the mailing list could help too
[06:22] <minghua> ajmitch: the reviewer list?
[06:23] <ajmitch> motu list
[06:23] <ajmitch> depends on who's watching the reviewers list
[06:23] <ajmitch> if people are uploading debdiffs from there
[06:24] <minghua> sure, I'll ping motu list after pasting the debdiff.  it's actually easier for me as I'm not subscribed to reviewers list
[06:24] <ajmitch> more shiny?
[06:26] <minghua> anybody know what the following Depends: line mean: python-twisted (>= 1.3.0-7) | python2.3 (<< 2.3.5-1), python-twisted (>= 1.0.0), python-twisted-web | python-twisted (<< 2.1.0)
[06:26] <minghua> ?
[06:27] <minghua> that's for apt-proxy by the way
[06:27] <ajmitch> minghua: yes
[06:27] <ajmitch> python-twisted was split up a lot for 2.1.0
[06:27] <minghua> previous ubuntu patch changed the "| python2.3 (<< 2.3.5-1)" to "| python2.4", which I think is wrong
[06:28] <ajmitch> yeah, reasonably wrong
[06:28] <minghua> ajmitch: and python-twisted was split from python since 2.3.5?
[06:28] <ajmitch> no
[06:28] <ajmitch> it was never part of python
[06:29] <ajmitch> not sure why they have that first dependency
[06:29] <minghua> ajmitch: you explained the third part, but I still don't understand why there are two versioned python-twisted dependency
[06:30] <minghua> oh okay, thanks ajmitch
[06:30] <minghua> we don't have a #ubuntu-python (or #debian-python for that matter) channel, do we?
[06:32] <ajmitch> nope
[06:32] <ajmitch> #debian-python may exists
[06:32] <ajmitch> s/exists/exist/
[06:34] <minghua> ajmitch: just tried, no #debian-python
[06:34] <ajmitch> a shame
[06:37] <minghua> got it
[06:37] <minghua> ajmitch: it's debian #294626 if you are interested
[06:37] <Ubugtu> debian bug 294626 in apt-proxy "1.9.25 broken with python2.3 upgrade (missing profile)" [<em,Fixed]  http://bugs.debian.org/294626
[06:38] <ajmitch> ah, profiler
[06:39] <ajmitch> no wonder
[06:39] <minghua> okay, everything makes sense now, and I believe ubuntu should keep the Depends: line intact as it doesn't hurt anything
[06:40] <ajmitch> so it wants a fixed python-twisted, or a python that has the non-free module
[06:40] <minghua> ajmitch: do you agree?
[06:40] <ajmitch> yeah
[06:41] <minghua> we really need a commentable debian/control...
[06:44] <ajmitch> commentable?
[06:44] <ajmitch> that's what a changelog is for, isn't it? :)
[06:46] <minghua> Err, personal preference, I suppose?
[06:48] <minghua> crap, Debian's apt-proxy has a missing comma in the Depends: line
[06:49] <minghua> which makes half of the dependency get dropped
[06:50] <ajmitch> oops
[06:51] <minghua> Hmm, maybe only one dependency, not half of them
[06:51] <Yagisan> G'day All
[06:51] <minghua> but a stupid bug nevertheless
[06:52] <Yagisan> ajmitch: hows you SElinux work going ?
[06:52] <Yagisan> s/you/your
[06:55] <ajmitch> Yagisan: slowly as ever, of course ;)
[06:56] <dholbach> good morning
[06:58] <ajmitch> hey dholbach
[06:58] <ajmitch> how are you?
[06:59] <ajmitch> dholbach: I talked with the Ebuntu guy, unfortunately his enlightenment debs are done with checkinstall :)
[06:59] <Yagisan> checkinstall ??
[06:59] <dholbach> i thought so :/
[06:59] <ajmitch> so I don't think that e17 debs would be ready for inclusion before feature freeze
[06:59] <Yagisan> yuck
[06:59] <dholbach> hey ajmitch, how are you?
[06:59] <ajmitch> I'm good, how are you?
[06:59] <dholbach> i'm just a bit tired still
[06:59] <ajmitch> not working too hard? :)
[07:00] <minghua> hello dholbach
[07:00] <dholbach> i need to get some tea or something, now :)
[07:00] <dholbach> hey minghua
[07:01] <dholbach> Merci. :)
[07:02] <ajmitch> de rien
[07:03] <theCore> stop stealing our french expressions ;P
[07:04] <Hobbsee> what, with the outrageous accent, theCore?  :P
[07:06] <theCore> Hobbsee, i'm not a french of France. I'm from Qubec, and we got a north-american accent
[07:07] <theCore> anyway, that's is offtopic :)
[07:07] <Hobbsee> ah, i was thinking of monty python, if you didnt get the reference.  *stops being offtopic*
[07:11] <minghua> apt-proxy debdiff pasted in bug 29267
[07:11] <Ubugtu> malone bug 29267 in apt-proxy "apt-proxy crashes after upgrading" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/29267
[07:19] <crimsun> minghua: ...but we have 1.9.32ubuntu2. Are you proposing an update beyond UVF?
[07:20] <minghua> crimsun: as I've said, I don't have enough knowledge to know if I should cherry pick the patch or ask for UVF exemption
[07:20] <minghua> all I can say is this merged package works for me
[07:21] <minghua> if UVF exemption is definitely out of question, I suppose I can try to cherry pick the patch out, but I am not confident on my python skill (which is very very little)
[07:22] <minghua> crimsun: by the way I was telling this patch to dholbach on #ubuntu-bugs
[07:22] <minghua> maybe you want to join as well, it's Bug Day after all
[07:22] <crimsun> yeah, I missed the backscroll.
[07:28] <viviersf> elo ajmitch
[07:29] <ajmitch_> hi
[07:29] <viviersf> how you been
[07:29] <ajmitch_> good, busy doing work in .au
[07:29] <viviersf> ah okay
[07:29] <viviersf> dude
[07:29] <viviersf> how do i found out
[07:30] <viviersf> when certain packages will go into uni/multi verse ?
[07:30] <ajmitch_> ah, when they're uploaded & built,etc?
[07:30] <viviersf> yeah
[07:30] <ajmitch_> if there are new binary packages they get manual approval
[07:31] <ajmitch_> what certain packages do you mean?
[07:31] <viviersf> there no packages for em
[07:31] <viviersf> like j2re1.4
[07:31] <viviersf> and
[07:31] <viviersf> adobe acrobat
[07:31] <viviersf> etc
[07:31] <ajmitch_> right
[07:32] <dholbach> viviersf: search on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:32] <ajmitch>   acroread | 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[07:32] <viviersf> hgmmm
[07:32] <ajmitch>   j2re1.4 | 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[07:32] <viviersf> why it no show in apt-cache
[07:33] <viviersf> wth
[07:33] <ajmitch> what architecture?
[07:33] <viviersf> i386
[07:33] <ajmitch> and do you have the multiverse repository really enabled?
[07:33] <viviersf> ag hell
[07:33] <viviersf> hold
[07:34] <viviersf> k soz
[07:34] <viviersf> something in the sources.list was wasted
[07:36] <ajmitch> :)
[07:55] <monzie> hi all
[07:55] <ajmitch> hello
[07:56] <monzie> this is where i plan to get my sources from for Ebuntu
[07:56] <monzie> http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/
[07:56] <monzie> i'll compile them on my sys first and see
[07:56] <monzie> but the main problem is, E is considered to be beta quality
[07:56] <monzie> does beta quality software go into universe?
[07:57] <ajmitch_> sure, we just got Xgl into universe
[07:57] <ajmitch_> it's not entirely stable
[07:58] <monzie> okay.. then i'll start work on it
[07:58] <ajmitch_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU has a few linkes, the debian new maintainer's guide is a good start
[07:59] <minghua> is monzie the Ebuntu guy?
[07:59] <ajmitch> yes
[08:00] <monzie> well yeah minghua
[08:00] <minghua> monzie: glad to hear someone working on enlightenment
[08:01] <monzie> Thanks ming..
[08:02] <monzie> i have worked on  FOSS projects before, minghua  , but i dont have the experience of managing one..
[08:02] <monzie> i hope i can do a good job
[08:02] <monzie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New/HowTo is pretty detailed
[08:04] <minghua> monzie: wish you enjoy your learning and packaging, I did enjoy mine :-)
[08:04] <monzie> really hope so minghua
[09:38] <monzie> so the orig.tar.gz and the .dsc files are required  to upload any new package, isn't it?
[09:39] <Hobbsee> monzie: and the .diff.gz, yeah
[09:39] <Hobbsee> upload the *.changes file to revu, and it uploads all of the required ones :)
[09:40] <monzie> hmm, i am a newbie this process Hobbsee
[09:40] <monzie> can you help me out a bit?
[09:40] <Hobbsee> monzie: woo!  someone who's newer than me!
[09:40] <Hobbsee> i can try, sure :)
[09:41] <Hobbsee> what do you need help with?
[09:41] <monzie> well, i have loads of .tar.gz files
[09:41] <monzie> all of them compile on my system. they are E17 semi-stable builds
[09:41] <monzie> dependencies and stuff
[09:42] <monzie> since i am not patching it in any way, where do i get the .diff files from?
[09:43] <freeflying> monzie: hi
[09:43] <monzie> hi freeflying
[09:43] <dholbach> take upstream tarball, move to bla_version.orig.tar.gz, add debian dir to unpacked source tree, run   debuild -S -sa
[09:44] <monzie> okay dholbach
[09:44] <Hobbsee> heh, beat me to it dholbach
[09:44] <monzie> but there is not upstream tarball, i have snapshots from the CVS builds
[09:44] <Hobbsee> i swear i did that last night!
[09:45] <Hobbsee> monzie: the tarball that you do have - it's the same thing
[09:45] <dholbach> monzie: that's fine too
[09:45] <monzie> okay, i am sorry i am not good with the nomenclature,
[09:45] <monzie> i am a first timer
[09:46] <Tonio_> hi all :)
[09:47] <dolson> monzie: we all start somewhere.. I started a week or two ago :)
[09:47] <dolson> hi Tonio_
[09:48] <Hobbsee> ooh, another newbie! hi dolson
[09:48] <monzie> yeah dolson , and i guess the community helped you a lot too
[09:49] <dolson> monzie: yeah, for sure... I still need help :)
[09:49] <dolson> hi Hobbsee
[09:49] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:51] <monzie> Membership? \
[09:51] <monzie> do you have to be a member to contribute?
[09:51] <Hobbsee> no
[09:51] <dolson> monzie: there is a lot to learn, but once you upload something that works to REVU, don't be crushed if you get a big list of improvements you need to make. you will learn quick from the feedback, and it improves your packages overall
[09:53] <monzie> which version of autoconf is to be used for ubuntu?
[09:53] <monzie> and, does the package have to be for dapper only?
[09:54] <Hobbsee> whichever one it requires - usually the latest
[09:54] <Hobbsee> monzie: yes
[09:54] <dholbach> monzie: that's what we work on, we can backport stuff, but those have to be very isolated decisions and packages
[09:54] <monzie> it cant be for breezy Hobbsee ?
[09:54] <dholbach> no, we can't upload to breezy
[09:55] <Hobbsee> monzie: not if you want it into the repos, i think...
[09:55] <Hobbsee> hehe - i learned that the hard way...
[09:55] <dholbach> breezy-updates is for severe fixes only
[09:55] <monzie> okay dholbach , Hobbsee
[09:55] <dholbach> breezy-backports is for isolated backports
[09:55] <minghua> monzie: ubuntu has different versions of automake, you can explicitly require which version you want
[09:55] <minghua> monzie: oh you say autoconf, sorry
[09:55] <dholbach> (but i'd use the one upstream uses)
[09:56] <minghua> dapper has the newest autoconf (which is 2.59 now) and autoconf2.13
[09:56] <monzie> okay, it means first i have to upgrade my system and begin any other work, isn't it?
[09:56] <minghua> yeah, and as dholbach said, use the one upstream uses
[09:57] <Hobbsee> dholbach: you'd be able to answer this, i think.  Is it absolutely necessary to have a signed key for membership?
[09:57] <dholbach> Hum, I think not.
[09:57] <monzie> hey i am launchpad.net/people/manishchakravarty
[09:57] <dholbach> But you should get one ASAP.
[09:57] <dholbach> Hobbsee: where do you live?
[09:58] <Hobbsee> sydney australia
[09:58] <dholbach> it should be EASY to get one there
[09:58] <Hobbsee> you'd think, yes
[09:58] <dolson> monzie: I am pretty sure you can just set up a Dapper pbuilder and stay using Breezy.. someone correct me if I am wrong
[09:58] <dholbach> Hobbsee: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=sydney
[09:58] <Hobbsee> dolson: indeed you can
[09:59] <Hobbsee> you will have trouble testing any .debs it creates though
[09:59] <monzie> how do i do that dolson ?
[09:59] <dholbach> wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[09:59] <dolson> dholbach is the link bot
[09:59] <Hobbsee> hehe - i just noticed we dont have ubotu in here
[09:59] <Hobbsee> darn it - fx window is crashing on me!
[10:01] <dolson> monzie: congrats on converting your college :)
[10:01] <monzie> ohh thanks dolson , it was a pain in the ass nonetheless :-)
[10:06] <Hobbsee> i'm off for a while - cooking dinner
[10:20] <jsgotangco> dholbach, i am proud to report to you that zakame spoke to a conference yesterday and a lot of people asked for his autograph
[10:20] <dholbach> WOW!
[10:20] <dholbach> I mean    W O W !
[10:20] <dholbach> hahahahaha :)
[10:21] <dholbach> jsgotangco: you should tell the people in the other channels too
[10:23] <zakame> hello MOTUs :D
[10:24] <dolson> zakame: can I have your autograph?
[10:24] <dholbach> hey zakame!
[10:24] <zakame> heya dholbach dolson jsgotangco ! :-)
[10:25] <zakame> dolson: lol, sure when you get here in .ph :D
[10:26] <dolson> aw man, can't you just email it?
[10:26] <jsgotangco> and signing his key
[10:26] <zakame> gaaah
[10:27] <dolson> do you have a scanner, jsgotangco?
[10:27] <siretart> dolson: re: dssi sync: I've sent james an email on wed, but he hasn't processed any sync since about 2 or 3 weeks I guess
[10:27] <jsgotangco> none  :/
[10:28] <dolson> siretart: ok, that's cool. :)
[10:28] <zakame> dolson: i've one, actually part of a printer combo, the only part working 'coz its out of ink
[10:29] <dolson> zakame: sign a picture, scan it, and upload it to REVU so we can all apt-get you as our wallpaper
[10:29] <zakame> LOL!
[10:29] <siretart> I've even seen uploads without 'ubuntu' in the version string, in order to be synced over. I did that once in breezy, when I was told (by Kamion or mdz I think) to not do this
[10:30] <dolson> siretart: are you hinting at something?
[10:31] <siretart> dolson: I'm too busy with work/uni to elaborate on this. sorry
[10:31] <dolson> hmm.. well if it isn't going to be sync'd...
[10:32] <siretart> it will be synced. for sure.
[10:40] <siretart> morning, after all :)
[10:40] <siretart> sorry, I'm don't get to my regular ubuntu work in the last time as I wanted. :(
[10:40] <zakame> morning siretart :D
[10:41] <siretart> hi zakame :)
[10:41] <zakame> gaah DSA 978-1
[11:10] <dolson> geez. all of a sudden my CPU went to 100% and I couldn't do anything
[11:10] <Hobbsee> dolson: would this happen to be with using a pbuilder?
[11:10] <dolson> nope
[11:10] <Hobbsee> weird
[11:11] <dolson> I used pbuilder a few minutes before it happened, but it wasn't still running
[11:13] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[11:14] <dolson> man this sucks. my furnace is dying, it's making a loud racket down there... and it's cold in my house :( my car won't start, and I can't find a new job. some people have all the luck
[11:14] <dolson> I have 3 of them already :)
[11:15] <dolson> hmmmmmm. the update manager just popped up to tellme there are new updates maybe that was causing the CPU issue right before I rebooted
[11:16] <Hobbsee> gnome or kde?
[11:16] <dolson> gnome
[11:17] <dolson> I had a 100% CPU issue with it when I first installed dapper, but I thought it was fixed
[11:18] <dolson> meh, seems to be ok now
[11:26] <Tonio_> dholbach: ping ?
[11:26] <Tonio_> or siretart maybe ?
[11:33] <tepsipakki> shouldn't 'dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -k"<keyid>"' generate a .changes-file?
[11:34] <Hobbsee> should do, yeah
[11:34] <Hobbsee> i think
[11:34] <Hobbsee> if not, replace dpkg-buildpackage with debuild, and then it definetly does
[11:34] <tepsipakki> but it doesn't, because there's no debian/files
[11:34] <Hobbsee> you still have the debian dir there?
[11:35] <tepsipakki> yes
[11:35] <Hobbsee> hmm
[11:35] <tepsipakki> dpkg-buildpackage runs rules clean, which removes 'files'
[11:36] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[11:37] <azeem> tepsipakki: and what is the error message?
[11:37] <azeem> files is only needed for binary package .changes I thought
[11:38] <tepsipakki> I'm just trying to dput a package in revu, but don't remember how I did that last time (~month ago..)
[11:38] <tepsipakki> =)
[11:38] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: dput revu *.changes
[11:38] <Hobbsee> it wont let you with just a plain .dsc file
[11:39] <lucas> any tiber admin around ? siretart ajmitch ?
[11:39] <lucas> ah ogra maybe ?
[11:40] <ogra> lucas, i'm no admin, nope :)
[11:40] <lucas> ok
[11:42] <lucas> ok, I'm going out for lunch
[11:42] <lucas> if a tiber admin could install libopenssl-ruby1.8 while I'm away, it would be awesome ;)
[11:46] <tepsipakki> hobbsee: yes I'm aware of that.. debuild went now fine afterall.. I need to write down the command ;)
[12:02] <dholbach> Tonio_: pong
[12:03] <Tonio_> hi dholbach ;)
[12:03] <Tonio_> dholbach: we were discussing the settings for kubuntu regarding to the fonts.
[12:04] <Tonio_> dholbach: I think ubuntu's gnome has xft.dpi set to 96, am I correct ?
[12:05] <Tonio_> I was just searching the way the ubuntu crew did it, cause there are several possibilities to get that done, and I would like to provide the same logic for kubuntu settings
[12:05] <dholbach> Tonio_: I have no idea, you asked me this already, I think that somebody said, it was set to 96, yes. :)
[12:05] <Tonio_> dholbach: I know you may not know, but who may have that information ?
[12:06] <dholbach> seb128, maybe.
[12:07] <Tonio_> okay thanks dholbach :)
[12:09] <Hobbsee> 96 was the number mentioned in the meeting this morning
[12:24] <marcin`> raphink: hello
[12:28] <marcin`> raphink: are you there or not?
[12:29] <Tonio_> marcin`: raphink lags on irc actually....
[12:29] <Tonio_> marcin`: contact him on jabber
[12:29] <raphink> hi MarioMeyer
[12:29] <raphink> oops
[12:30] <raphink> hi marcin`
[12:30] <marcin`> raphink: hi
[12:30] <marcin`> raphink: I uploaded my vtiger packages to revu
[12:31] <marcin`> raphink: they are pretty ugly now but workable (I hope)
[12:31] <marcin`> raphink: if you want I could give you url to my apt repository if you want to test binaries
[12:35] <raphink> marcin`: you there?
[12:35] <marcin`> raphink: yup
[12:36] <Tonio_> marcin`: raphink lags, and I send you privatly his jabber contact
[12:36] <marcin`> Tonio_: aaa it was for jabber....
[12:36] <raphink> marcin`: please use my jabber address to contact me, the lag is here too huge
[12:37] <marcin`> Tonio_: anyway I don't have jabber client installed yet ;)
[12:37] <marcin`> Tonio_: fresh dapper installation...
[12:37] <Tonio_> marcin`: gaim, kopete ?
[12:37] <Tonio_> ubuntu has gaim and kubuntu has kopete, so you should have one ;)
[12:38] <marcin`> Tonio_: blah... I use ratpoison as window manager and do almost everything in emacs ;)
[12:39] <marcin`> Tonio_: gaim sucks... and kopete even more bacause it's sweetsugarplastic kde app ;)
[12:39] <Tonio_> marcin`: there is certainly a command line jabber client out there
[12:40] <Tonio_> marcin`: don't want to come into that debate ;)
[12:40] <raphink> ping Tonio_
[12:40] <Tonio_> pong raphink
[12:40] <raphink> ah it's a bit better it seems
[12:45] <raphink> marcin`: ping?
[12:47] <raphink> marcin`: reviewed vtiger-crm
[12:47] <marcin`> raphink: pong
[12:47] <marcin`> raphink: I'm here...
[12:47] <raphink> marcin`: yep I know
[12:48] <raphink> ;)
[12:48] <marcin`> raphink: ok I got mail with your review
[12:49] <marcin`> raphink: I'll try to change these packages
[12:49] <marcin`> raphink: I'll try now in about an hour or tomorrow
[12:49] <raphink> marcin`: I'm not done with it yet
[12:50] <raphink> I've just reviewed vtiger-cr
[12:50] <raphink> crm
[12:50] <raphink> not the other one yet
[12:50] <marcin`> ok - vyiger-crm is only data package
[12:50] <marcin`> vtiger-crm-mysql-local is more important
[12:51] <dolson> ooooo, the new gnome screensaver thingy is nicer than the old xscreensaver
[12:55] <raphink> marcin`: yet there things to change in vtiger-crm
[12:59] <marcin`> almost ready to upload vtiger-crm
[01:01] <marcin`> raphink: btw where should I put info about your initial work on this package?
[01:01] <marcin`> raphink: into copyright?
[01:01] <raphink> where you want :)
[01:01] <raphink> you can put it in changelog, or in copyright
[01:02] <raphink> as you want :)
[01:03] <marcin`> I'll put info into copyright
[01:03] <raphink> marcin`: you're calling the mysql config script in the postinst in vtiger-crm-mysql-local?
[01:04] <marcin`> raphink: kind of...
[01:04] <marcin`> raphink: what do you mean by 'mysql config script' ?
[01:05] <raphink> marcin`: where are the contents to be used by debconf?
[01:05] <marcin`> raphink: well in dbconfig-common
[01:06] <marcin`> raphink: everything is configured automagically
[01:06] <marcin`> raphink: but this is in fact still a problem
[01:06] <marcin`> raphink: because this postinst script does two things
[01:06] <marcin`> raphink: it creates empty database on mysql-server
[01:07] <marcin`> raphink: and it prepares /usr/share/vtiger-crm/connection.php
[01:07] <marcin`> raphink: then when you log into http://localhost/vtiger-crm for first time
[01:07] <raphink> mhm
[01:07] <marcin`> raphink: you will get this 'install.php' script
[01:07] <marcin`> raphink: you don't need to set anything there - just click 'next'
[01:08] <raphink> yes I know that marcin`
[01:08] <marcin`> raphink: the only thing you can change is vtiver admin password
[01:08] <raphink> yep
[01:08] <marcin`> raphink: then everything should work ok and it's pretty nice...
[01:09] <raphink> I hope so
[01:09] <marcin`> raphink: unfortunately there is also a big problem with this stuff but I don't know how to resolve it yet
[01:09] <raphink> marcin`: if you could fix the few things I've listed first, that'd be a good beginning
[01:09] <raphink> :)
[01:09] <marcin`> raphink: the problem is that I don't see any nice way to upgrade vtiger
[01:10] <raphink> how do you mean marcin` ?
[01:10] <marcin`> raphink: the problem is that you propably want to keep some data in vtiger database ;)
[01:10] <raphink> marcin`: yes of course
[01:11] <raphink> you don't want to recreate the DB when upgrading
[01:11] <raphink> that's obvious
[01:11] <marcin`> raphink: but when you reinstall vtiger (upgrade) then this 'install.php' crap will destroy your data
[01:11] <raphink> ah
[01:11] <raphink> obviously it shouldn't
[01:11] <marcin`> raphink: yes I know - but this means that we should patch this script
[01:12] <marcin`> raphink: and remove almost everything that is related with database...
[01:12] <raphink> hmm
[01:12] <raphink> well so far this is the first version
[01:12] <marcin`> raphink: and create tables with sql script with dbconfig-common
[01:12] <raphink> you could poke upstream about providing a nice way to upgrade themselves
[01:12] <raphink> since I hope they don't expect people to keep the same version for ever
[01:12] <marcin`> raphink: it's pretty easy but a lot of changes in orig
[01:13] <raphink> not in orig marcin`
[01:13] <raphink> if you need to patch, use cdbs's simple-patchsys
[01:13] <marcin`> raphink: in fact this 'install.php' should be considered as vtiger bug...
[01:13] <raphink> since the package uses cdbs
[01:13] <raphink> don't patch the source
[01:13] <marcin`> raphink: sure I'll use dpatch
[01:13] <raphink> then report it :)
[01:14] <raphink> hmmpf
[01:14] <raphink> simple-patchsys is much easier when using cdbs
[01:14] <raphink> ;)
[01:14] <raphink> but you're free to use dpatch if you find that better
[01:14] <marcin`> raphink: ok I'll try simple-patchsys
[01:14] <raphink> marcin`: to use simple-patchsys, you only need to
[01:14] <raphink> 1) create debian/patches
[01:15] <raphink> 2) cd to the root of the package and run cdbs-edit-patch nameofyourpatch
[01:15] <raphink> 3) make your changes
[01:15] <raphink> 4) exit 0
[01:15] <raphink> that's it :)
[01:15] <raphink> hmm and well you need the simple-patchsys.mk in debian/rules beforehand
[01:16] <raphink> and it's better to list your patches namely in debian/changelog, too
[01:16] <marcin`> ok I'll do this tomorrow evening
[01:16] <marcin`> raphink: please tell me what should I put into copyright about your initial work
[01:17] <marcin`> raphink: and I'll upload new version
[01:17] <raphink> hmm whatever you want ;)
[01:17] <pappan> how do i get .deb of mplayer ?
[01:17] <marcin`> raphink: 1. my english sucks...
[01:17] <raphink> you can just state the package was based on mine, or I was the orig author of it, or whatever
[01:17] <raphink> pappan: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[01:18] <pappan> raphink: thank you. let me chk it
[01:18] <marcin`> raphink: 2. please provide something I could just copy/paste ;) (lazy)
[01:18] <raphink> marcin`: haha
[01:25] <pappan> the base ubuntu seems not to have much
[01:26] <slomo> pappan: mplayer is in multiverse
[01:27] <pappan> whats multiverse
[01:32] <viviersf> ah goodie
[01:32] <marcin`> raphink: how can I remove orig.tar.gz from vtiger-crm-mysql-local?
[01:33] <viviersf> xforwarding is enable by default in ssh in ubuntu
[01:33] <raphink> marcin`: rename it in tar.gz
[01:33] <raphink> change the infos in the dsc
[01:34] <raphink> md5, size and name
[01:34] <marcin`> raphink: hmm don't get it...
[01:34] <marcin`> raphink: but just a moment
[03:44] <lucas> [ANN]  multidistrotools now supports fetching bugs from malone : http://tiber.tauware.de/~lucas/versions/ruby-packages.html
[03:47] <Gloubiboulga> hello
[03:49] <zakame> hi all
[03:49] <Gloubiboulga> hi zakame
[03:49] <zakame> heya Gloubiboulga
[03:49] <jpatrick> hello Gloubiboulga, zakame
[03:50] <Gloubiboulga> hey jpatrick
[03:50] <zakame> hi jpatrick
[03:50] <jpatrick> :)
[03:53] <siretart> lucas: w00t
[03:53] <siretart> lucas: do you still intend to upload multidistrotools to dapper?
[03:54] <lucas> I dunno
[03:54] <lucas> I'm busy with other things currently
[03:54] <lucas> and I think I'll easily get a FF exception for mdt
[03:54] <lucas> since it isn't going to break anything to get it in
[03:56] <ogra> lucas, you should clearify if FF exceptions are granted at all ... might be they are not
[03:57] <ogra> didnt you already have a package of them ?
[03:57] <lucas> yeah, but I changed quite a lot of things
[03:57] <lucas> so I'm not sure of my depends anymore
[03:57] <ogra> ah
[03:58] <ogra> but that'd be a bug, bugfixing is allowed post FF ;)
[03:58] <lucas> I'll just add it to my todo list, I should be able to get to it soon
[03:58] <siretart> lucas: I can fetch the latest version from your home, no problem. But I think about other users, they might find it more convinient to have it in the archive.
[03:59] <lucas> I have to check with raphink whether he wants to integrate mdt with his tools
[04:04] <theCore> is it a way, I could see the diff between repo changes ?
[04:36] <lucas> theCore: what do you mean by repo changes ?
[04:37] <jpatrick> theCore: dapper-changes mailing list?
[04:38] <theCore> packages added or removed from the repository in a given amount of time
[04:46] <jpatrick> afternoon dholbach
[04:47] <dholbach> hi jpatrick
[05:20] <sistpoty> hi folks
[05:20] <jpatrick> hello sistpoty
[05:21] <sistpoty> anybody to review my package trigger/trigger-data on revu? :)
[05:21] <jpatrick> I could :)
[05:21] <sistpoty> jpatrick: please do :)
[05:26] <jpatrick> sistpoty: see comments
[05:27] <sistpoty> thx jpatrick :)
[05:28] <jpatrick> :)
[05:29] <Gloubiboulga> hello sistpoty
[05:29] <sistpoty> hi Gloubiboulga
[05:31] <sistpoty> jpatrick: I'll take a look ;)
[05:35] <sistpoty> Gloubiboulga: there are still (3?) packages with unmet ocaml-deps... do you want to take a look at these?
[05:35] <Gloubiboulga> sistpoty, yes, I will
[05:36] <sistpoty> Gloubiboulga: thx
[05:36] <Gloubiboulga> I'm fighting with libswitch and gswitch for the moment...
[05:38] <sistpoty> ah, k
[05:39] <sistpoty> jpatrick: you could make a README.Debian describing that gst is the default (and where to change that)
[05:40] <sistpoty> jpatrick: why did you change the upstream tarball?
[05:40] <jpatrick> when?
[05:40] <sistpoty> jpatrick: at least revu-report says that you changed the upstream tarball... haven't verified that manually ;)
[05:41] <jpatrick> sistpoty: ah yes I removed the debian/ dir there
[05:41] <sistpoty> jpatrick: ok
[05:42] <sistpoty> jpatrick: might be worth asking upstream to not include a debian-dir by default ;)
[05:42] <jpatrick> sistpoty: did that ;) (and told them not to make native packages)
[05:42] <sistpoty> :)
[05:44] <jpatrick> sistpoty: my main concern is that it doesn't seem to be playing anything
[05:45] <sistpoty> jpatrick: then you should first get this sorted out
[05:45] <jpatrick> I'm trying :)
[05:45] <sistpoty> jpatrick: why do you use that many override files?
[05:46] <jpatrick> One for each package that needs one
[05:47] <sistpoty> jpatrick: imo it's not good to silence lintian (e.g. for missing man-pages)... override files should imo only be used when lintian actually is wrong
[05:48] <jpatrick> sistpoty: I'm working on the man pages
[05:48] <sistpoty> jpatrick: please remove the overrides then... it gives the impression that you want to hide packaging mistakes ;)
[05:48] <jpatrick> sorry
[05:49] <sistpoty> np ;)
[05:49] <jpatrick> but the rest of the errors?
[05:50] <sistpoty> jpatrick: still building the package, will take a look once it's done
[05:51] <sistpoty> jpatrick: but unless you are certain, that lintian is wrong, I'd suggest that it's better not to override lintian
[05:52] <nlindblad> can I ask a question?
[05:52] <jpatrick> nlindblad: yes
[05:52] <nlindblad> jpatrick, I switched to GoogleTalk, please authorize me
[05:53] <nlindblad> will Gaim 2.0 be included in Dapper Drake?
[05:53] <jpatrick> ok, Kopete isn't on :P
[05:53] <nlindblad> jpatrick, oh :D
[06:04] <lucas> raphink: where can I download your REVU-tools ?
[06:05] <raphink> lucas: on http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink
[06:05] <raphink> lucas: there you'll find the last version of the sources
[06:05] <raphink> and the last but one version of the deb
[06:05] <raphink> haven't updated the deb yet
[06:11] <lucas> raphink: I'm not sure it's a good idea to integrate mdt with revu-tools
[06:11] <lucas> they aim at different things
[06:11] <raphink> I meant to use mdt for revu-tools
[06:11] <raphink> as a dependency
[06:11] <lucas> ah
[06:11] <lucas> ok
[06:11] <raphink> I'm not sure of how far mdt could help
[06:12] <raphink> since you know it better than I do, you can surely enlight me on this
[06:12] <lucas>  * Check for the presence of the package in Ubuntu (all distros), Debian, apt-get.org. Using mdt ?
[06:12] <lucas> for this ?
[06:13] <raphink> yes
[06:13] <raphink> how far could it help?
[06:13] <raphink> would it be able to check for the presence in hoary for example?
[06:13] <lucas> you could do that with mdt, but I'm not sure it's the good way to go
[06:13] <raphink> to see if the package was nuked or so
[06:13] <raphink> how would you do it?
[06:13] <lucas> it might be easier to download the Sources.gz file and search for the package in it
[06:14] <raphink> ouch
[06:17] <lucas> you could do that with mdt by writing a script such as seach-for-package-in
[06:17] <lucas> like :
[06:17] <lucas> search-for-package-in <package> <dist1> <dist2> <dist3> ...
[06:17] <lucas> this is quite easy
[06:19] <raphink> mhm
[06:29] <sistpoty> jpatrick: imo the .so's should be installed to /usr/lib/kde3 instead of /usr/lib or /usr/lib/kmplayer-base (or s.th.), since shared objects in /usr/lib must be handled by shlibs and ldconfig
[06:29] <sistpoty> jpatrick: but I'm not 100% certain where these should go... maybe you could ask s.o. with shared objects experience about this
[06:30] <jpatrick> ok
[06:30] <sistpoty> jpatrick: and why do you install kgstplayer/kxineplayer in the -base package, whereas kmplayer/kxvplayer in kmplayer package?
[06:31] <jpatrick> sistpoty: kgstplayer/kxineplayer are needed by the plugin and the stanealone player
[06:32] <sistpoty> jpatrick: ah, ok
[06:32] <jpatrick> you can have the plugin without having to install the standalone one
[06:39] <sistpoty> jpatrick: and your debian/copyright is wrong... I found at least one file that's LPGL and not GPL
[06:42] <sistpoty> hey raphink: would you like to review my package trigger/trigger-data? :)
[06:42] <raphink> sistpoty: sure
[06:42] <sistpoty> cool :)
[06:42] <jpatrick> sistpoty: grep -i 'LGPL' * returns nothing (in /src)
[06:42] <sistpoty> jpatrick: mom, looking for the file
[06:42] <Gloubiboulga> a MOTU asking for a review, I like that :)
[06:43] <raphink> Gloubiboulga: of course, we follow the same rules :)
[06:43] <sistpoty> jpatrick: kmplayerprocess.cpp for example...
[06:43] <sistpoty> jpatrick: grep -i copyright * gives usually more hits ;)
[06:45] <raphink> sistpoty: why get the 0 out of the version number in debian/watch?
[06:45] <sistpoty> raphink: 0?
[06:45] <raphink> http://files.scapecaster.com/posit/trigger-0\.(.*)-src\.data\.bz2
[06:45] <raphink> which is wrong anyway
[06:45] <raphink> since it's .tar.bz2
[06:46] <sistpoty> raphink: ah... there is also a file named -2-src (which is a higher version to uscan)
[06:46] <raphink> so debian/watch can't work
[06:46] <raphink> sistpoty: yes, but -2 doen't have .data
[06:46] <raphink> sistpoty: and this way uscan doesn't get the right version, if you put the 0 out of ()
[06:46] <raphink> so there's no point
[06:47] <sistpoty> raphink: will fix that for the data-package... it did get the version for the src-package right however
[06:48] <raphink> ok
[06:48] <sistpoty> raphink: btw.: can you tell me why the first line doesn't work? (it is exactly as written in the manpage)
[06:48] <raphink> sistpoty: uscan fails on both
[06:49] <raphink> how do you mean sistpoty ?
[06:49] <raphink> what first line?
[06:49] <sistpoty> raphink: in the watch file, that I commented out
[06:49] <raphink> sistpoty: does this work for version 3 ?
[06:50] <raphink> let's see
[06:50] <sistpoty> raphink: at least it's written that way in the man-page...
[06:50] <raphink> it should work I guess
[06:50] <sistpoty> raphink: that's what I get for the -src package: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8785
[06:52] <raphink>  $ uscan --dehs
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Newer version available</status>
Successfully downloaded updated package trigger-0.5.2-src.tar.bz2 and symlinked trigger_5.2.orig.tar.bz2 to it</messages>
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[06:53] <raphink> that's what I get ;)
[06:53] <sistpoty> lol... strange :)
[06:54] <raphink> hehe
[06:54] <raphink> taht's because you get the 0 out of the ()
[06:54] <raphink> and () is taken for the version number
[06:55] <sistpoty> hm... but if I won't take it out, -2- is taken as newest version... any clues how to solve this?
[06:55] <sistpoty> (apart from pinging upstream to remove -2-)
[06:55] <LaserJock> umm, it doesn't work to call dh_intall after dh_builddeb in debian/rules, right?
[06:56] <raphink> yes I guess you have to poke upstream about removing -2-
[06:56] <sistpoty> LaserJock: no... dh_builddeb already builds the .deb, so dh_install afterwards will happily install files to debian/<package>/ without any effect on the deb
[06:57] <LaserJock> sistpoty: that's what I thought
[07:02] <sistpoty> raphink: got a better idea... maybe s.th. like trigger-((\d)+\..*)-src\.tar\.bz2 will do the trick
[07:03] <raphink> sistpoty: if you say so
[07:03] <raphink> hehe
[07:03] <raphink> *blush*
[07:04] <raphink> ok :)
[07:08] <sistpoty> ha... finally got it: trigger-([\d] +\..+)-src\.tar\.bz2
[07:09] <jamessan> why do you need the [] ?
[07:09] <sistpoty> jamessan: good point... should work even w.o. ... testing
[07:09] <sistpoty> jamessan: yay... thx!
[07:09] <jamessan> :)
[07:11] <raphink> sistpoty: src/glew/Jamfile is modified during build
[07:12] <sistpoty> raphink: of course it is... wouldn't build if I hadn't patched it
[07:12] <raphink> sistpoty: it's not unpatched though
[07:13] <sistpoty> raphink: it is patched in .diff.gz... so it is patched *before* building (and no need to unpatch it thus)
[07:14] <raphink> sistpoty: fine :)
[07:14] <sistpoty> (I want to get this into pkg-games-svn and we don't use a patch-system there because we have svn) :)
[07:42] <sealne> what should the status of a wishlist bug be that has been reported to upstream?
[08:12] <Spec> OT: Is there anyone here planning on attending FOSE, if so, are you doing so to represent the goodness of Ubuntu?
[08:12] <atie> hi
[08:14] <atie> someone could help me to have 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 working with unicode search?
[08:14] <carl_> anyone know where the w32 codecs are?
[08:15] <tseng> google knows
[08:15] <dholbach> RestrictedFormats too
[08:15] <tseng> ubuntu has and never will shipped w32codecs
[08:15] <carl_> google knows but isn't telling ;-)
[08:15] <sistpoty> hi tseng, hi dholbach
[08:15] <tseng> hi sistpoty
[08:21] <sistpoty> raphink: added get-orig-source target for convenience to trigger ;)
[08:28] <dholbach> good night folks
[08:28] <atie> raphink, for 31055, because I tried the bug and saw same symbols were pointed as KDE one.
[08:28] <dolson> bye dholbach
[08:29] <dholbach> bye dolson
[08:31] <Toadstool> hi everybody
[08:33] <jpatrick> hello Toadstool
[08:33] <sistpoty> gn8 dholbach
[08:33] <sistpoty> hi Toadstool
[08:36] <Toadstool> I'm looking for something useful to do...
[08:37] <sistpoty> Toadstool: there are lots of bugs in malone, or you could work on a package with unmet deps (http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/unmet/dapper-unmet.txt)
[08:37] <Toadstool> yep let's try the unmet deps stuff
[08:39] <sistpoty> Toadstool: make sure you fix the right source-package (sometimes a pending package FTBFS'd) and check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/WorkInProgress to avoid duplicate work
[08:39] <Toadstool> ok
[08:41] <jpatrick> who do I ask for UVF exception?
[08:41] <tseng> ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <tseng> follow the same format as everyone else
[08:42] <jpatrick> ok :)
[08:44] <LaserJock> how would I go about trying to get something in breezy-updates?
[08:47] <crimsun> debdiff to ubuntu-devel
[08:47] <crimsun> and diffstat
[08:47] <crimsun> (starting to sound familiar?)
[08:48] <LaserJock> yeah, I see
[08:48] <crimsun> actually, ask mdz what the format is
[08:48] <crimsun> I don't remember if he wants them sent to him directly
[08:49] <LaserJock> hmm, I just don't think I have time. Malone bug #6588 is fixed in dapper but it would tweaking to get breezy to work.
[08:49] <Ubugtu> malone bug 6588 in cernlib "PAW - Segmentation violation - Traceq lun = 0, level = 99" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6588
[08:50] <LaserJock> would require tweaking, I mean
[09:22] <LaserJock> ajmitch: ping?
[11:07] <KriS83> Hi
[11:08] <KriS83> Is there any news on when a new gnomeicu package will be created/released with the current patched ICQ-Protocol Version?
[11:24] <sistpoty> KriS83: no idea really... do you happen to know wether a newer one is in debian/unstable already?
[11:25] <KriS83> sistpoty, nop
[11:26] <KriS83> sorry.. it's just a bit annoing, that gnomeicu keeps disconnecting as it no longer supports the new protocol
[11:26] <KriS83> I'm currently trying to create a selfmade deb with the current version. But I'm new to this.. so I don't really expect for it to work ;)
[11:27] <sistpoty> KriS83: is it fixed in 0.99.10?
[11:30] <KriS83> Yes
[11:31] <KriS83> as from what I can read it is :)
[11:31] <KriS83> I can tell you in a couple of mins if it actually is.. cos it looks like my deb is just building at the moment
[11:32] <KriS83> just a quick and dirty one though
[11:32] <sistpoty> KriS83: k :)
[11:35] <KriS83> k.. now lets wait 5 mins.. to see if it disconnects me again :)
[11:38] <KriS83> sistpoty, looks fine sofar.. I was disconnected with the old version by this time
[11:43] <sistpoty> KriS83: ok, I'll request an UVF-exception and care for the new version ;)
[11:44] <sistpoty> KriS83: (tomorrow) ;)
[11:44] <KriS83> sistpoty, k, thank you very much :)
[11:44] <sistpoty> you're welcome
[11:50] <sistpoty> cya