[12:04] well, it doesn't play the WMV file or an AVI file.. both play in Xine though. MP3s play in Totem now though, so hey, that's 1/3, better than before where it was 0/126 === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === huats [n=Huats@huats.reponses.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] Heh, how would I potentially get drivers added into the ubuntu repositories? I'm bundling up the lexmark drivers, now, for the z600, and other series, to make them generally more available. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] Psi-Jack: you would package them up and upload the source files to REVU [12:23] REVU? [12:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [12:24] Gotcha. === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-004-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-004-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [12:28] Hmm. Odd.. [12:28] Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, line 2. [12:29] Psi-Jack: do you have bzip2 installed? [12:29] Yeah. I bzipped that file myself, actually. heh [12:32] sounds like debian #314875, but that should be fixed already... [12:32] Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [12:32] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314875 === minghua pats Ubugtu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-93-200.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-004-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] Well, I re-compressed it using gzip, and dh_make had no complaints. heh === mgoetze [n=mgoetze@gprs-pool-1-020.eplus-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] In debian/control, if this is only available for 386 or better, what should Architecture be? === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] I'd like to make an attempt in packaging libsvg-cairo. (And possibly its -dev version too.) Is there any advice you can give me, since I'm not fond at all about Debian packages? [12:58] xerox_: about that package specifically or packaging in general? === Czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-004-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [01:06] Psi-Jack: is it useful for other arch (e.g. powerpc) as well? [01:07] minghua: Nope. I'd guess not, since it's a lexmark binary printer driver. Hehe [01:07] Psi-Jack: arch:i386 means x86 architechture, from 80386 to Petium 4, actually [01:08] Psi-Jack: so you don't have source, just packaging some proprietory binary file, then? [01:09] minghua: Exactly. [01:09] hm [01:09] hit & run feature requests in -devel today === ajmitch didn't understand what he was complaining about with network flows [01:09] maybe flaws? [01:09] Psi-Jack: you can look at the package flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse, then, I don't have any experience on this myself [01:10] perhaps [01:10] minghua: Hmm.. I see. That might work. :) === mgoetze [n=mgoetze@gprs-pool-1-019.eplus-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] LaserJock: specifically. [01:12] LaserJock: I'm trying the combination dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage without much luck at the moment. [01:13] "Totem was not able to play this disc. No reason." cool! such helpful and descriptive information. [01:14] LaserJock: turns out that libsvg-cairo needs libsvg, so I was starting with that last one, doing a dh_make -l and fixing the right spots in the produced files. [01:14] LaserJock: unfortunately it does not compile, I have to check out what's the problem. [01:15] LaserJock: well, it compiles with the usual 'sh configure && make' rite, but it fails under 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot'. [01:15] xerox_: I've got to leave right now for dinner. Try taking a look at the Debian New Maintainer's Guide if you haven't already and perhaps the Ubuntu Packaging Guide at doc.ubuntu.com [01:16] xerox_: and ask questions here if you get stuck [01:17] LaserJock: will do. Thanks again, good dinner! [01:17] xerox_: I'll probably been on later as well ;-) === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] dolson: here? [01:38] fbond: yup [01:39] please get rid of the whole auto-op script [01:39] hey, dssi should get synced from debian [01:39] good good.. did you see there's a new Rosegarden now? [01:39] yes [01:40] does it have dssi support built in now? [01:40] fluidsynth-dssi, hexter, xsynth will need to be brought in by me [01:40] it should, as soon as dssi-dev is available and the rosegarden maintainer enables it [01:40] (makes it a build-dep) [01:40] fbond: no scripts, please. [01:41] pardon? [01:41] .. [01:41] < tseng> please get rid of the whole auto-op script [01:41] I didn't know I had one === j^ [n=j@e178057229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] my client must do this automatically ... ? [01:41] you apperantly do, or asked chanserv nicely [01:41] in any case, make it go away [01:42] fbond: what client are you using? === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o tseng] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o fbond] by tseng === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o fbond] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o tseng] by tseng [01:43] ... [01:43] i don't know IRC very well [01:43] gimme a minute [01:43] i'll see what I can do [01:43] nevermind. its pretty rude but i give up [01:43] do what you'd like [01:43] nam [01:44] geez, gimme more than 30 seconds and I'll do what I can [01:44] i think that's relatively rude myself [01:45] if you want a different client, try irssi or xchat-gnome [01:45] i like my client just fine, thanks === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o fbond] by fbond === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o fbond] by ChanServ [01:45] fbond: you are being opped by chanserv [01:45] fbond: its not your client [01:45] fbond: do a /msg chanserv help [01:46] you'll need to readup on it, something like 'autoop' [01:46] it would alternatively help if anyone cared to fix the access list [01:46] [it might possibly be your client, but if it was you would have had to configure it for this specific behaviour] [01:46] so far that has not been the case === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] tseng: are you in a bad mood or something? [01:47] ja === lifeless reads that as 'in a bad mood' === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] LaserJock_away: no luck. 'deb-buildpackage -rfakeroot', after dh-make -l and some changes in debian/* files, leaves me with no matter what I do. I know it's not a complete information, but I'm really tired (01:50AM) and I must go to sleep now. If you have some time and will to fiddle with those libs I'd appreciate it very much. See you soon. === zen-afk [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] Hmmm. If I were going to depend on cups, what should I list as the depends? [02:00] I basically need to make this package depend on cups, and gs-esp. [02:00] And, the compatability libstdc++v3 === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-161-210-173.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] siretart: has dssi been synced? === dous [n=adpenara@efreet.edu.ms] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:24] Hmm. [02:25] It's almost perfect. :D [02:26] hello MOTUS [02:26] need a little help [02:26] could someone tell me what is preferred way for installing webapp on apache server? [02:27] I got package with webapp and currently I just create symlink [02:27] /usr/share/mywebapp -> /var/www/mywebapp [02:28] but I know that it propably should be done in some other way [02:28] could someone help with this problem? [02:29] In the debian/rules file, what would be the best way to handle making symlinks? I'm trying to symlink /usr/lib/liblexprinter.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/liblexprinter.so.0 [02:30] Because lexmark's original binary tarball, doesn't have the so.0 links. LOL [02:30] Psi-Jack: dh_link? [02:30] marcin`: oh.. Quick example? :) [02:31] Nevermind. I think I got it. :) [02:31] Psi-Jack: dh_link source target [02:31] Yeah. virtual source and target. not actual. [02:33] Geez, why does a printer driver need to install a library in /usr/lib? [02:34] minghua: Heh. Because they made libraries for them? heh [02:36] Excelent. now all I need is postinstall and postrm scripts and this'll be ready. === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] Psi-Jack: sure, but my point was why couldn't they put it in /usr/lib/lexmark/ or something [02:40] heh, well, I dunno. LOL [02:40] They made them unique, at least. liblex* [02:41] And between the various lexmark printer drivers, they probably share some commonality. === reggaemanu [n=reggaema@ARennes-257-1-109-135.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=reggaema@ARennes-257-1-28-153.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c184119.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === irvin [n=irvin@203.213.223.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-28-153.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-28-153.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub__ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-28-153.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] hi all === hub__ is now known as hub === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-28-153.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-28-153.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] [04:27] In a postinst script, is there any "standard" means to /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, or should I just have it call that as-is? === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] Psi-Jack: use invoke-rc.d [04:39] Ahh, okay. :) [04:40] as in this template: [04:40] if [ -x "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d" ] ; then [04:40] invoke-rc.d wpasupplicant start 2>&1 3>&1 || true [04:40] else [04:40] /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start 2>&1 3>&1 || true [04:40] fi [04:40] (obviously cupsys there...) [04:41] Cool. Even beyyer. :) [04:45] Heh. Then, now, all I need is to figure out how to make the .dsc file, and I'm set. [04:47] you shouldn't need to make a .dsc file [04:47] building the source package should be enough [04:48] Well, I'm building a package from a binary-only source, so, and debian/rules binary doesn't seem to make the .dsc file. [04:48] debuild -S === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] Hmm. [04:49] debsign failed. :/ [04:49] Hmm, probably because of my email. Odd.. [04:51] even a 'binary-only' source is built in the normal way [04:51] I've been.. Using fakeroot debian/rules binary === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] But, it still fails on debsign.. [04:52] Secret key not available, yet... I know I setup my GPG key. === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] [04:53] Or should I even bother, and leave this up to REVU to sign and all? [04:53] it has to be signed to upload to REVU [04:54] Hmm, okay.. [04:55] debuild -S -kKEYID [04:55] where KEYID is your gpg key id === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] There we go [05:00] anybody know if there is a bzr irc channel? [05:01] #bzr, funnily enough [05:02] ajmitch: doh, should've tried that [05:02] :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] hm [05:36] why have people made this ebuntu, but haven't seemed to have made the effort to get packages into ubuntu proper? [05:37] very very irritating === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-28-153.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0026.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] [05:59] ello [06:01] what's ebuntu? [06:02] enlightenment+ubuntu I think [06:02] or rather an E17ized ubuntu [06:02] it doesn't seem to use ubuntu sources at the moment though [06:03] or part of it === theCore [n=alexandr@Toronto-HSE-ppp3715320.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:05] jsgotangco: I'm talking to the guy now, inviting him to put his packages on REVU [06:06] cool [06:08] ajmitch: how many packages did he do? just E17 packages or is there more? [06:08] LaserJock: just E17 stuff at the moment, I think [06:09] lots of bling lately [06:11] oh yes [06:11] so we might have E17 packages on REVU in a couple of days, not sure if they'll get in by feature freeze or nor [06:11] s/nor/not/ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] uh oh [06:13] thatd be good [06:13] E17 debs are checkinstall [06:13] hahaha [06:13] sigh [06:14] yuck [06:14] why not? I'm sure we could make a FF exception for them ;-) [06:15] :P [06:15] any MOTU can check bug 29724 and sponsor the upload? It's about a CJK font package. [06:15] malone bug 29724 in xfonts-mona "xfonts-mona installs font to wrong directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29724 [06:16] and I wonder if there is any apt-proxy user here [06:16] minghua: sadly yes [06:17] ok, the ebuntu guy is going to try & do a crash course in debian packaging [06:17] I guess it might take a little longer :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] ajmitch: I synced with Debian's apt-proxy today, which works for me [06:18] minghua: and? [06:18] do we have changes that we should drop? [06:18] ajmitch: I don't know enough python to make an educated decision though, whether to cherry pick the patch or ask for UVF exemption [06:18] what are the ubuntu changes? [06:19] ajmitch: oh, by "sync" I actually mean "merge" === ajmitch is currently using apt-proxy on sarge [06:19] ok [06:19] ajmitch: * Ubuntu changes: [06:19] - doc/apt-proxy.conf: Set min_refresh=1s. [06:19] - debian/init.d: Use LSB init-functions. [06:19] - debian/install: Install into python2.4 dirs instead of python2.3. [06:19] that's from my debian/changelog [06:21] ok [06:21] give it to someone for review, like your fonts debdiff === ajmitch can't really upload at the moment [06:21] ajmitch: you mean the merge debdiff, right? [06:21] yes [06:21] I'll post it to the bug then [06:22] I think I still need to polish it a bit [06:22] great [06:22] maybe pinging the mailing list could help too [06:22] ajmitch: the reviewer list? [06:23] motu list [06:23] depends on who's watching the reviewers list [06:23] if people are uploading debdiffs from there === chillywilly thinks this will be a cool thing when it is released: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Lightning [06:24] sure, I'll ping motu list after pasting the debdiff. it's actually easier for me as I'm not subscribed to reviewers list [06:24] more shiny? [06:26] anybody know what the following Depends: line mean: python-twisted (>= 1.3.0-7) | python2.3 (<< 2.3.5-1), python-twisted (>= 1.0.0), python-twisted-web | python-twisted (<< 2.1.0) [06:26] ? [06:27] that's for apt-proxy by the way [06:27] minghua: yes [06:27] python-twisted was split up a lot for 2.1.0 [06:27] previous ubuntu patch changed the "| python2.3 (<< 2.3.5-1)" to "| python2.4", which I think is wrong [06:28] yeah, reasonably wrong [06:28] ajmitch: and python-twisted was split from python since 2.3.5? [06:28] no [06:28] it was never part of python [06:29] not sure why they have that first dependency [06:29] ajmitch: you explained the third part, but I still don't understand why there are two versioned python-twisted dependency [06:30] oh okay, thanks ajmitch [06:30] we don't have a #ubuntu-python (or #debian-python for that matter) channel, do we? [06:32] nope [06:32] #debian-python may exists [06:32] s/exists/exist/ [06:34] ajmitch: just tried, no #debian-python [06:34] a shame [06:37] got it [06:37] ajmitch: it's debian #294626 if you are interested [06:37] debian bug 294626 in apt-proxy "1.9.25 broken with python2.3 upgrade (missing profile)" [ ah, profiler [06:39] no wonder [06:39] okay, everything makes sense now, and I believe ubuntu should keep the Depends: line intact as it doesn't hurt anything [06:40] so it wants a fixed python-twisted, or a python that has the non-free module [06:40] ajmitch: do you agree? [06:40] yeah [06:41] we really need a commentable debian/control... [06:44] commentable? [06:44] that's what a changelog is for, isn't it? :) [06:46] Err, personal preference, I suppose? [06:48] crap, Debian's apt-proxy has a missing comma in the Depends: line [06:49] which makes half of the dependency get dropped [06:50] oops [06:51] Hmm, maybe only one dependency, not half of them [06:51] G'day All [06:51] but a stupid bug nevertheless [06:52] ajmitch: hows you SElinux work going ? [06:52] s/you/your === Yagisan just got a 1GB usb stick. Is that big enough to cram ubuntu on ? === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1DF7.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] Yagisan: slowly as ever, of course ;) [06:56] good morning [06:58] hey dholbach [06:58] how are you? [06:59] dholbach: I talked with the Ebuntu guy, unfortunately his enlightenment debs are done with checkinstall :) [06:59] checkinstall ?? [06:59] i thought so :/ [06:59] so I don't think that e17 debs would be ready for inclusion before feature freeze [06:59] yuck [06:59] hey ajmitch, how are you? [06:59] I'm good, how are you? [06:59] i'm just a bit tired still [06:59] not working too hard? :) [07:00] hello dholbach [07:00] i need to get some tea or something, now :) [07:00] hey minghua === ajmitch hands dholbach a cup of tea [07:01] Merci. :) [07:02] de rien [07:03] stop stealing our french expressions ;P [07:04] what, with the outrageous accent, theCore? :P [07:06] Hobbsee, i'm not a french of France. I'm from Qubec, and we got a north-american accent [07:07] anyway, that's is offtopic :) [07:07] ah, i was thinking of monty python, if you didnt get the reference. *stops being offtopic* === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] apt-proxy debdiff pasted in bug 29267 [07:11] malone bug 29267 in apt-proxy "apt-proxy crashes after upgrading" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29267 [07:19] minghua: ...but we have 1.9.32ubuntu2. Are you proposing an update beyond UVF? [07:20] crimsun: as I've said, I don't have enough knowledge to know if I should cherry pick the patch or ask for UVF exemption [07:20] all I can say is this merged package works for me [07:21] if UVF exemption is definitely out of question, I suppose I can try to cherry pick the patch out, but I am not confident on my python skill (which is very very little) [07:22] crimsun: by the way I was telling this patch to dholbach on #ubuntu-bugs [07:22] maybe you want to join as well, it's Bug Day after all [07:22] yeah, I missed the backscroll. === ajmitch_ [i=ajmitch@port163-136.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] elo ajmitch [07:29] hi [07:29] how you been [07:29] good, busy doing work in .au [07:29] ah okay [07:29] dude [07:29] how do i found out [07:30] when certain packages will go into uni/multi verse ? [07:30] ah, when they're uploaded & built,etc? [07:30] yeah [07:30] if there are new binary packages they get manual approval [07:31] what certain packages do you mean? [07:31] there no packages for em [07:31] like j2re1.4 [07:31] and [07:31] adobe acrobat [07:31] etc [07:31] right [07:32] viviersf: search on packages.ubuntu.com [07:32] acroread | 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages [07:32] hgmmm [07:32] j2re1.4 | 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages [07:32] why it no show in apt-cache [07:33] wth [07:33] what architecture? [07:33] i386 [07:33] and do you have the multiverse repository really enabled? [07:33] ag hell [07:33] hold [07:34] k soz [07:34] something in the sources.list was wasted [07:36] :) === monzie [n=manish@220.226.29.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] hi all [07:55] hello [07:56] this is where i plan to get my sources from for Ebuntu [07:56] http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/ [07:56] i'll compile them on my sys first and see [07:56] but the main problem is, E is considered to be beta quality [07:56] does beta quality software go into universe? [07:57] sure, we just got Xgl into universe [07:57] it's not entirely stable [07:58] okay.. then i'll start work on it [07:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU has a few linkes, the debian new maintainer's guide is a good start [07:59] is monzie the Ebuntu guy? [07:59] yes [08:00] well yeah minghua [08:00] monzie: glad to hear someone working on enlightenment [08:01] Thanks ming.. [08:02] i have worked on FOSS projects before, minghua , but i dont have the experience of managing one.. [08:02] i hope i can do a good job [08:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New/HowTo is pretty detailed [08:04] monzie: wish you enjoy your learning and packaging, I did enjoy mine :-) [08:04] really hope so minghua === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-21-216.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-18-95.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === monzie wishes to say that #ebuntu is now online === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^_ [n=j@e178037245.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port163-136.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@dsl-210-15-201-110.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@dsl-210-15-201-110.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] so the orig.tar.gz and the .dsc files are required to upload any new package, isn't it? [09:39] monzie: and the .diff.gz, yeah [09:39] upload the *.changes file to revu, and it uploads all of the required ones :) [09:40] hmm, i am a newbie this process Hobbsee [09:40] can you help me out a bit? [09:40] monzie: woo! someone who's newer than me! [09:40] i can try, sure :) [09:41] what do you need help with? [09:41] well, i have loads of .tar.gz files [09:41] all of them compile on my system. they are E17 semi-stable builds [09:41] dependencies and stuff [09:42] since i am not patching it in any way, where do i get the .diff files from? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] monzie: hi [09:43] hi freeflying [09:43] take upstream tarball, move to bla_version.orig.tar.gz, add debian dir to unpacked source tree, run debuild -S -sa [09:44] okay dholbach [09:44] heh, beat me to it dholbach [09:44] but there is not upstream tarball, i have snapshots from the CVS builds [09:44] i swear i did that last night! [09:45] monzie: the tarball that you do have - it's the same thing [09:45] monzie: that's fine too [09:45] okay, i am sorry i am not good with the nomenclature, [09:45] i am a first timer [09:46] hi all :) [09:47] monzie: we all start somewhere.. I started a week or two ago :) [09:47] hi Tonio_ === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] ooh, another newbie! hi dolson [09:48] yeah dolson , and i guess the community helped you a lot too [09:49] monzie: yeah, for sure... I still need help :) [09:49] hi Hobbsee [09:49] hehe === Hobbsee looks at the process for new membership [09:51] Membership? \ [09:51] do you have to be a member to contribute? [09:51] no [09:51] monzie: there is a lot to learn, but once you upload something that works to REVU, don't be crushed if you get a big list of improvements you need to make. you will learn quick from the feedback, and it improves your packages overall === dholbach high-fives dolson === dolson wasn't ready, and just got cuffed upside the head [09:53] which version of autoconf is to be used for ubuntu? [09:53] and, does the package have to be for dapper only? [09:54] whichever one it requires - usually the latest [09:54] monzie: yes [09:54] monzie: that's what we work on, we can backport stuff, but those have to be very isolated decisions and packages [09:54] it cant be for breezy Hobbsee ? [09:54] no, we can't upload to breezy [09:55] monzie: not if you want it into the repos, i think... [09:55] hehe - i learned that the hard way... [09:55] breezy-updates is for severe fixes only [09:55] okay dholbach , Hobbsee [09:55] breezy-backports is for isolated backports [09:55] monzie: ubuntu has different versions of automake, you can explicitly require which version you want [09:55] monzie: oh you say autoconf, sorry [09:55] (but i'd use the one upstream uses) [09:56] dapper has the newest autoconf (which is 2.59 now) and autoconf2.13 [09:56] okay, it means first i have to upgrade my system and begin any other work, isn't it? [09:56] yeah, and as dholbach said, use the one upstream uses [09:57] dholbach: you'd be able to answer this, i think. Is it absolutely necessary to have a signed key for membership? [09:57] Hum, I think not. [09:57] hey i am launchpad.net/people/manishchakravarty [09:57] But you should get one ASAP. [09:57] Hobbsee: where do you live? [09:58] sydney australia [09:58] it should be EASY to get one there [09:58] you'd think, yes [09:58] monzie: I am pretty sure you can just set up a Dapper pbuilder and stay using Breezy.. someone correct me if I am wrong === Hobbsee just hasnt figured out who to ask yet [09:58] Hobbsee: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=sydney [09:58] dolson: indeed you can [09:59] you will have trouble testing any .debs it creates though [09:59] how do i do that dolson ? [09:59] wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [09:59] dholbach is the link bot [09:59] hehe - i just noticed we dont have ubotu in here [09:59] darn it - fx window is crashing on me! [10:01] monzie: congrats on converting your college :) [10:01] ohh thanks dolson , it was a pain in the ass nonetheless :-) [10:06] i'm off for a while - cooking dinner [10:20] dholbach, i am proud to report to you that zakame spoke to a conference yesterday and a lot of people asked for his autograph [10:20] WOW! [10:20] I mean W O W ! === jsgotangco is doing this until zakame comes here hehehe [10:20] hahahahaha :) [10:21]