=== irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike [n=spike@unaffiliated/spike] has joined #ubuntu-server === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-server === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-server === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-server === andriijas [i=saerdna@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.212.214.155.34.visit.se] has left #ubuntu-server [] === zen-afk [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-server === RemoteViewer [n=555@stan.physik.fu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-server === irvin [n=irvin@203.213.223.86] has joined #ubuntu-server === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === Micksa [n=mslade@203-217-18-166.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:57] right [05:57] what's the ubuntu equiv of "auto eth0:0" in /etc/interfaces? [05:57] er [05:57] /etc/network/interfaces :) [05:57] The same. [05:58] is not [05:58] tell me what's wrong with this [05:58] auto eth0:0 [05:58] iface eth0:0 inet static address 203.217.18.195 netmask 255.255.255.248 network 203.217.18.192 broadcast 203.217.18.199 [05:58] graghrg === Micksa 's head explodes [05:58] Other than the obvious lack of linebreaks, I assume? [05:59] I assume eth0 is also "auto"? [05:59] that was a cut'n'paste anomaly [05:59] Or are you upping eth0 with hotplug or something? [05:59] hmm... no but it comes up [05:59] hotplug [06:00] If you're using hotplug mappings on a server... Don't. ;) [06:00] (dapper removes all that hotplug mapping stuff anyway) [06:00] *shrug* kay [06:00] I never liked the idea anyway :) [06:00] not on a server [06:00] so can I trash the "mapping hotplug" stanza, set "auto eth0" and it'll all work fine? [06:00] That should do it. [06:01] okay. here goes [06:01] course I can't restart the server right now :) [06:01] I'll have to test, like, next thunder storm or something [06:01] I need UPS :/ [06:01] Heh. [06:05] Micksa: unless you're using the iface, you can always ifdown it, and then ifup -a it IIRC [06:05] it should igfnore already reaised interfaces. [06:05] err raised. [06:05] won't that break 50 running daemons? [06:05] some of them relying on the interface being there will need to be restarted, yes. [06:05] lke I said, unless you're using it... [06:06] anyway I wanted to also test that the NIC device actually exists when it's brought up [06:06] you mean it has link? [06:06] no, like, hotplug has brought it up [06:06] but like, hotplug starts just before S40networking so it should be fine [06:07] I'll get to it [06:08] there's no need to explictly test, for the reason you jsut mentioned... so I'm kinda confused. [06:42] paranoia [06:43] it's a good thing in this line of woork [06:50] if you're taht worried about it, just explcitly load the driver as a pre-up. [06:50] which should run regardless of interface presence, IIRC. [06:50] failign that, add an initscript, or use /etc/modules if you don't trust hotplug. [06:56] I just want it to boot properly without any intervention, that's all [06:57] if oyu're worried about htee NIC driver not loading, toss the name in /etc/modules. [06:57] done. [06:57] I don't want to be in another state and find out that I can't get my mail till I get back because this machine didn't come up properly === ajmitch_ [i=ajmitch@port163-136.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port163-136.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-server === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@dsl-210-15-201-110.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-server === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@dsl-210-15-201-110.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:26] anyone here used vmware player? [09:26] can it run a server? ie listen on a port and be connected to? [09:38] Micksa: I road an article about vmware player. They wrote there that the only limitation is that it can not setup/configure the machine used. [10:17] hunger: what do you mean? [10:18] sebest: Did I say something here? [10:19] hunger about vmware server === requested unknown ctcp hunger from #ubuntu-server [10:19] <> Micksa: I road an article about vmware player. They wrote there that the only limitation is that it can not setup/configure the machine used. [10:19] sebest: Oh that:-) [10:19] yes, because vmware server allow you to configure the host and guest machine exactly like vmware workstation [10:19] Micksa asked about vmware player. [10:20] ah sory [10:20] Micksa: ... and whether that could run servers. [10:20] i missread him :) [10:20] better use vmware server :) [10:20] Micksa: From what I understood it can (if you feed it a machine configured accordingly). [10:21] sebest: Nah. I do not use proprietary software on my own boxes. [10:21] hunger: vmware player is not propriertary software? [10:21] sebest: I used Vmware ESX for a while at a customer's site. It is really nice. [10:22] sebest: vmware player is proprietary. I did not use it, I only read about it. [10:22] i mean it's better to use vmware server than to use vmware player for server usage [10:23] sebest: I tend to agree, even though I never have used vmware server nor vmware player;-) [10:24] vmware server, is like esx === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.213.208] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike [n=spike@unaffiliated/spike] has joined #ubuntu-server === fabbione [n=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Zedman [n=erik@G0245.g.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:51] hello. I want to try to set up an ubuntu gnu/linux server. I am downloading the iso atm. 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