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AntMazkorhalf its not like windows were you have to restart everytime you install something12:00
DCCOLEwhat good 3d games are there12:00
basichah12:00
DCCOLEin UBUNTU resp12:00
AntMazkorhalf  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:00
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basicenemy territory12:00
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fishdishwine runs max payne better than windows12:00
AntMazkorhalf wget apt wine in terminal12:00
DCCOLEok12:00
basicfishdish i dont believe you12:00
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fishdishand lots of other cool wondows games not yet available as linux binaries12:01
AntMazi dont believe you either fishdish12:01
fishdishbasic you better try12:01
basicevery game i've run in wine has run faster in windows12:01
hangfiremax paine is one of the best FPS ever12:01
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basicmax payne is a third person shooter12:01
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korhalfwell i think you need to restart to boot into the new kernel12:01
hangfirewhoops, your right12:01
korhalfi mean i might be wrong..12:01
fishdishexcept max payne and age of empires 212:01
fishdishat least...12:01
midwinterkorhalf, sure you do..12:02
basiceh12:02
mikolajwitam12:02
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mikolajjest tu moe kto kto mwi po Polsku czy niezbyt :/12:02
Kyohow can I set up my own email server instead of using yahoo and gmail and stuff ...12:02
navarone!pl12:02
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl12:02
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xerophytewhat is the best visio replacement12:02
AntMazkyo just use firefox12:02
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korhalfdeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/    << why does it download so slow.12:02
korhalfdamn12:02
basicdapper is only going 125kb/s :(12:03
korhalfim going like 6 kb/s12:03
fishdishit could be the hardware too that has to do with the framerate... if there's the right linux driver and opengl is used, then there should be an advantage in runtime12:03
bimberiluxury12:03
hangfirethere is a bunch of email clients in ubuntu, just look under install programs> internet12:03
DCCOLEdoes UBUNTU have quake in it12:03
korhalflawls12:03
fishdishno kuake12:03
mikolajhej12:03
korhalfyes, does it have quake in it?12:03
basicmax payne is a d3d game12:03
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AntMazits cause the server is ip compatiple12:03
hangfireno, you still have to buy quake12:03
basicquake is linux native12:03
korhalfi want to have quake in my ubuntu12:03
mikolajczy kto tu jest z polski czy nie12:04
Seveas!pl12:04
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl12:04
fishdishkuake is freeware12:04
AntMazhow much sense does that make12:04
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korhalfquake, quake 2 and quake 3 source is all gpled12:04
fishdishkuake 4 is still for sale / from gnutella only12:04
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Kyoheh12:04
DCCOLEYeah but take to long to compile12:04
bonezhmm stupid but how do i see what kernel i have currently12:04
hangfireoh, your talking the original quake 112:04
GarBhaDthe source is gpled but not the game... or that's what I heard12:04
AntMazwould i have to get another kernel to run half life under wine12:04
korhalfso just compile the source lol12:04
DCCOLEQuake112:04
GarBhaDthe game data, I mean12:04
korhalfI want to play quake 1 :)12:04
mikolaj     /msg nickserv set hide email on12:04
Kyokyo12:04
korhalfokay steal the pak files from someone12:05
korhalfdont know12:05
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GarBhaDmusics, textures, artwork...12:05
fishdishthe maps are all over the net...12:05
mikolaj#12:05
mikolaj    /msg nickserv set email <freedy666@tlen.pl>12:05
KyoAntMaz, what do you mean by 'just use firefox' .. can I set up my own customized email in firefox?12:05
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AntMazno kyo12:05
KyoI see12:05
kyo_ /nick Kyo12:06
zebraFusionQuestion12:06
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zebraFusionDo I need to unblock port 80 on my router to allow apache connections through?12:06
hangfirethere are a bunch of email clients in ubuntu, you should have an icon by default for an email client in your top toolbar12:06
AntMazthere is some email cliet i saw it somewere i just dont remeber were12:06
midwinterzebraFusion, yeah.12:06
DCCOLEthere is a quake 2 engine???12:06
basicso is anyone using dapper and xgl?12:06
Kyoany guide to show me how to secure ubuntu?12:06
fishdishgoodnite realworld i'm going to bed for 2 hours before i need to wake up for work =)12:06
mikolajhi i need help12:06
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basicthe quake2 engine is just a souped up quake 1 engine12:07
AntMazso goto ubuntu.com and type email in the search bar12:07
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Kyook12:07
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korhalf basic, you must be the uncanny thinker here12:07
midwinterheh12:07
korhalfim guessing that Half life 2's engine is just a souped up half life 1 engine12:07
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Angel_Dexanyone know a good FPS i can get from the repos?12:07
AntMazbasic is a fun language12:07
hangfireLinux is very secure from the getgo, you have to type in passwords to anything root related in ubuntu12:07
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korhalfAngel_Dex, i want to know myself12:08
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midwinterI doubt there is any in the repos.12:08
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korhalfsux12:08
korhalfno Linux FPS12:08
Angel_Dexkorhalf i just hope ill have sound with anything12:08
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korhalfsorry i dont like wine'ing CS:S12:08
AntMazhey you know mac os is unix based12:08
bsidewhat is synaptics  ?12:08
korhalfi like whining about it not working though12:08
basicAngel_Dex get enemy territory12:08
Kyofor evolution,  config setup, it says server config -> server ... what do I put in that?12:09
BioVorEmac OS X is BSD based12:09
basicits free and q3 based12:09
korhalflol Enemy Territory is decent.12:09
basicyes it is.12:09
midwinterbside, the front-end to apt-get12:09
hangfiremaxOSX is based on FreeBSD12:09
Angel_Dexis it repo or buy or what?12:09
midwinterbside, you use it to download packages12:09
basicdoom3, quake1-4, unreal tournament...12:09
AntMazbside http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:09
navaronekyo I imagine it wants to know the server to connect to for retrieving and sending mail12:09
jubeihey guys, which file do I change to change supported refresh rates?12:10
basicxorg.conf12:10
midwinterjubei, /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:10
hangfireyou dont have to change any files, just go into system config12:10
jubeithanks :)12:10
BioVorEsmb_writepage_sync: failed write, wsize=4096, write_ret=-512  <-- Any Ideas on what this is and how to fix it?12:10
Kyonavarone, ; Hmmm yes. So I find a place that offers SMTP or somethin'?12:10
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Kyodoesn't yahoo offer SMPT?12:11
jendaHow does one install from tar.gz?12:11
BioVorEtar -xvzf12:11
jendano .tgz12:11
AntMazroot poop12:11
korhalfwhy bother compiling?12:11
jendaBioVorE: Is that the same?12:11
korhalfdownload the .deb packages12:11
BioVorEyup12:11
korhalfor get gent0012:11
AntMazi dont hink so kyo12:11
GarBhaDtar.gz is the same than tgz12:11
navaroneKyo I dunno...I have just used my isp's servers pop and smtp...I dunno about setting up servers like yahoo gmail and the like12:11
KyoI see12:11
Angel_Dexwtf is wrong with my sound TT_TT12:11
KyoI think I'll just use a webbase email then12:11
jubeihangfire, is there somewhere in system config to change the supported refresh rates manualy?12:12
GarBhaDkyo, log into gmail and read the help, they tell you step by step how to setup your e-mail client12:12
navaronekyo...that is actually more convenient cos you can access it anywhere you havea  computer online12:12
BioVorEvideo card monitor settings are defined in /etc/xorg.conf12:12
hangfireyes, just go into systems config12:12
BioVorE.  /etc/x11/xorg.conf12:12
AntMazhelp file are very helpful at least with linux12:12
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Kyook GarBhaD12:12
AntMazwith windows they suck12:13
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Angel_Dexis there somthing that explains wtf ESD is and how to get rid of it for good without loosing system sounds?12:13
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bimberiubotu tell Angel_Dex about esd12:13
AntMazis ubotu a bot12:14
Angel_Dexyes12:14
bimberi!yourself12:14
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.12:14
basicdo any of you watch lost12:14
hangfirethere is no reason to use a text editor to config ubuntu, ubuntu works like windows, do it in the GUI just go to System> preferences>screen resolution12:14
AntMazthats cool12:15
basicyou have to use a text editor to get xgl running12:15
navaroneAngel_Dex have you gone to System/Pref/Sound and unchecked the box marked enable sound server?12:15
KyoHow would I install java runtime for firefox? seems you can't do a automatic plugin12:15
AntMazwhats xgl12:15
GarBhaDI need the kernel sources to compile, are they available through packages? is it linux-tree?12:15
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AntMazubuntu tell kyo about java12:15
basichttp://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/12:15
midwinterhangfire, you can only select resolutions there that you have set up previously.12:15
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Angel_Dexnavarone that dissables system sounds tho even when i switched to alsa with the multimedia thing12:16
BioVorEapt-cache search linux-sources12:16
midwinterbesides, config files are the way to go.12:16
midwinter:)12:16
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hangfireI dont get what you mean, Ive set any resolutions I want there12:16
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raphinkAntMaz: xgl is a piece of software that was released not long ago, using OpenGL to improve X12:16
navaroneAngel_Dexi have disabled it and use oss for output and input and have sound...I have a SB live btw12:16
BioVorEthe automagical gui messes stuff up here.. I always have to punt back to a terminal and fix it..12:16
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hangfireits the way to go if your are a certified sys admin12:17
AntMazoh12:17
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AntMazwell my pc sucks til i get a job12:17
basicthere are some videos in that link12:17
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raphinkAntMaz: very lately, Novell has released compiz, which uses Xgl + xorg to add great effects to X12:17
AntMaz600 mhz 256 ram , and 32 mem onboard display so you know it sucks12:17
AntMazmy hard drives are the onlything thats nice12:18
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AntMazanyone know other then newegg and tigerdirect were to get motherboard combo's with amd 6412:19
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bj_I still can't get mp3's to play in rythymbox. I DL'd everything I could find in synaptic that had to do with mp3s (univers and multiverse)12:19
navaroneraphink does xgl come by default in dapper?12:19
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raphinknavarone: no, thankfully12:19
hangfireI think VLC is better for audio files12:19
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raphinknavarone: xgl has just entered dapper, and it's experimental12:20
navaroneraphink is it still unstable...xgl I mean?12:20
AntMazi dont i live xmms , just like winamp12:20
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BioVorEsmb_writepage_sync: failed write, wsize=4096, write_ret=-512  <-- Any Ideas on what this is and how to fix it?12:20
Angel_Dexnavarone im doing this how too on how to switch to alsa without having to killesd for sounds withother programs12:20
AntMazvlc is good with video12:20
basicyes very unstable12:20
raphinknavarone: yes it's very unstable so far12:20
basicit hardly works with fglrx drivers right now12:20
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raphinknavarone: but I think it's gonna improve very fast now that compiz is out12:20
basichave you tried using it raphink?12:20
raphinkbasic: I couldn't get it working with my ATI Radeon 920012:20
basicahh12:21
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baraphael, link to compix?12:21
basichttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12709012:21
navaroneraphink what benefits too it? Is it just eye candy?12:21
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basicif you havent seen it12:21
raphinkBa: how do you mean?12:21
raphinknavarone: yes12:21
AntMazraphink how much ram does thathave 51212:21
mamahello, anybody knows how to get happy?12:21
navaronehmm...eye candy rots my vision...,s>12:21
raphinknavarone: amazing eye candy though12:21
baAntMaz: very lately, Novell has released compiz, which uses Xgl + xorg to add great effects to X12:21
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midwintermama, lots of ways12:21
raphinkAntMaz: I've got 1024 personally12:22
basichttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12709012:22
mamaget me some!!!!!!!! :P12:22
AntMazba i cant use anyhting grapic wise except for half life12:22
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mamasome more some more!!!12:22
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AntMazdo you cream yourself when you touch it12:22
ubuntucool12:22
midwintermama sounds like you've had enough already12:22
baraphink, AntMaz: very lately, Novell has released compiz, which uses Xgl + xorg to add great effects to X12:22
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SAAD3000whats the channel name for ubuntu adults?12:22
Angel_DexNOW heres a large question is dapper going to use Alsa? i mean if so many pple need to switch to it then why use ESD?12:23
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_jasonSAAD3000: ?12:23
raphinkBa: yes, don't forget the copyright on my quote ;)12:23
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steffenhi, i have problems getting my matrox g400 card to work with dri, i also tried the drivers from matrox, anyone got a hint for me?12:23
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SAAD3000whats the channel name for ubuntu adults?12:24
AntMaz*cracked my 2000 cd12:24
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AntMazit was fun and i gave my xp away12:24
baSAAD3000, its called #stfu12:24
SAAD3000ba guess so12:24
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AntMazi was gonna crack it but the noobs upstairs use it12:24
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rachanawhen will google talk be available for linux?12:24
AntMazhow i cout the errors on windows12:24
predius_in dapper, is there a way to get a normal user to run the xserver?12:25
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predius_i can get xorg running as root, but nothing else.12:25
atoponcerachanza, it is through the gabber network12:25
Angel_Dexhow do i tell what LIb im missing to play sound in a game?12:25
rehpotsirhcubuntu adults? like sexy chat about ubuntu?12:25
bimberirachana: you can use gaim12:25
Angel_Dexlol12:25
_jasonrachana: I believe gaim lets you use google talk12:25
rachanabut i want to talk12:25
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rachananot chat12:25
predius_rachana: no12:25
_jasonrachana: you have to ask google that then12:25
SAAD3000LOL i really lost the name but it was something like that12:25
dereksrachana: psi lets you use libjingle12:25
PigmejAnyone knows how to setup Gaim2 to work with GoogleTalk?12:26
raphinkrachana: when will google write _any_ program for linux is the right question ;)12:26
rachanadereks using psi can we talk ?12:26
dereksraphink: they released libjingle which works for linux12:26
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AntMazwhat the hell is google talk12:26
dereksrachana: you can use the VOIP capabilities12:26
derekswith libjingle12:26
raphinkrachana: using psi jingle, yes but that's experimental12:26
atoponceraphink, google is in the makes now to release much of the google pack software for linux12:26
Lie-Algebrahi, I have set my fstab to mount my usbkey as a user (option user) but I am obliged to mount it as root so that it works, what is the matter ?12:26
bimberiAntMaz: google it :P12:26
AntMazim lazy12:27
bimberi:)12:27
raphinkatoponce: oh really?12:27
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raphinkI don't trust all the things that are said about google12:27
=== dereks things that linux google pack will just be a googleified gui for apt
raphinkthere are too many people dreaming about google and telling stupid things12:27
rachanaraphink: how to get psi jingle?12:27
Hystythe google dev team is full of practical jokers12:27
dereksrachana: psi-im.org12:27
AntMazi looked12:27
rachanaok12:27
dereksfollow instructions there12:27
predius_dereks: they'll be a gogle pack for linux?12:27
PigmejAnyone knows how to setup Gaim2 to work with GoogleTalk?12:27
Hystywho the hell would know what was really going on12:27
predius_don't think so12:27
atoponceraphink, good point, but google is puting out a goobuntu.  that has been officially announced....12:28
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raphinkatoponce: see that gubuntu annonce for example, that everybody tallked baout12:28
AntMazpigmej google it12:28
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dereksatoponce: find the official anouncement12:28
raphinkatoponce: no they aren't12:28
dereksatoponce: there is no official announcement12:28
PigmejI lok for it but i dont find it12:28
AntMazgoogle talk on linux12:28
raphinkatoponce: canonical already released goobuntu for google12:28
_jasonPigmej: if you search google help they have instructions12:28
atoponcei thought there was....12:28
Hystythere was an official unanouncement12:28
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raphinkatoponce: and it's for their internal use12:28
PigmejOn 1.5x it works perfect but on 2 i vahe connection error:|12:28
raphinkonly12:28
_jasonPigmej: oh12:28
dereksgoobuntu = google's interneal distribution, most likely with lots of propietery things12:28
raphinkHysty: there was an official announcment that Google was using an OS based on Ubuntu and called Goobuntu12:28
atoponceraphink, i knew that, but it's only time12:29
raphinkthere was never an annoncement that it was to be distributed for the public12:29
_jasonPigmej: try #gaim, maybe it is a bug12:29
predius_goobuntu = based on redhat then?12:29
predius_because googles internal distro is based on something like redhat 5.012:29
raphinkpredius_: goobuntu is based on ubuntu and made by canonical12:29
derekspredius_: no its based on damn small linux12:29
derekson that note12:29
dereksi am leaving12:29
derekschow12:29
AntMazreally google everything12:29
GarBhaDubuntu installed a 386 optimized kernel by default, but searching with synaptic I found a k7 optimized12:29
bimberidereks: ciao12:29
GarBhaDif I want to use it, I just have to install the package?12:30
raphinkGarBhaD: yep12:30
atoponcenot an official announcemnt, but good enough for me12:30
atoponcehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/12:30
raphinkGarBhaD: exactly, and reboot12:30
GarBhaDI mean, there's no need to do anything else?12:30
GarBhaDhow cool112:30
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GarBhaDnow, that's user friendly ;)12:30
raphinkatoponce: many weird things have been said about goobuntu that are not true12:30
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raphinkatoponce: I think I know people who know quite enough about whether this is a fake announcement or not :p12:31
GarBhaDwhy do you want a goobuntu if you already have ubuntu??12:31
AntMazfuclk yea take over microsoft12:31
raphinkGarBhaD: I don't12:31
mzuverinkWhat is the command to kill gnome panels?12:31
raphinkGarBhaD: some people dream about google every night it seems ;)12:31
AntMazn a possible bid to take on Microsoft in its core business - desktop software.12:31
atoponceGarBhaD, my point is google is working on releasing linux software.  that's all12:31
atoponceraphink, i know i do.  :)12:31
raphinkgoogle is not releasing a linux distro12:32
_jasonmzuverink: killall gnome-panel12:32
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atoponcefamous last words12:32
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mzuverink_jason: thanks12:32
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AntMazi wish ubuntu would crash i miss the blue screen of death and the seriuos error , dont sed or sed12:32
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AntMazsend'12:32
AntMazthats my background now12:33
_jasonAntMaz: get the BSOD screensaver12:33
KerPlunk_If I try to install wifi-radar on a debian/unstable system will it install?12:33
Fredmy server has a 2.20 server load, but i cant see what's using all the cpu time in top. is there another way of seeing what's using all the cpu?12:33
avarAntMaz: put this in your cron.daily12:33
AntMazwhere can i get that or is it in there allready12:33
avar#!/bin/bash12:33
avarcat /dev/urandom > /proc/kcore12:33
AntMazcron.daily ?(cronic12:33
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tattersDirectory index forbidden by rule: /var/www-ssl/html/   <--- how do I correct this?12:34
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avarchange the rul12:34
avare12:34
avar.12:34
raphinkbetter use crontab -e to make cron entries12:34
tattersyah12:34
Angel_DexTT_TT i really really really hate the sound crap in ubuntu i really doo12:34
tattersY didnt I think of that12:34
AntMazthats for mac erorrs12:34
tattersbut what rule ?12:35
menchiHey all. Has anyone else had issues with broken sudo, or whatever ubuntu defaults to using?12:35
AntMazoh nice it has windows ones two12:35
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zebraFusiondoes apache need any other ports opened besides 80?12:35
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zebraFusionBecause I still can't connect to my apache box remotely12:35
atoponcezebraFusion, do you have port 80 open in your firewall?12:35
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raphinkzebraFusion: how about checking your router?12:35
dabaRmenchi: I am sure someone has. ask away12:35
_jasonmenchi: elaborate on ``broken sudo''12:36
NetGeekanyone using xgl here12:36
zebraFusionraphink, that's what I did... I unblocked port 80 on my router (firewall)12:36
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AntMazim gonna watch that screen saver and masterbate12:36
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raphinkNetGeek: xgl is highly experimental12:36
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kbrosnanKyo, it is a little minimalistic but http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java12:36
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atoponcezebraFusion, and it's pointing to the right ip on your network?12:36
tattershttps uses a different port to http12:36
AntMazso anyone recommend trying half life in wine12:36
NetGeekraphink: I got it working, but was wondering if you can make your gnome-panel transparent12:37
zebraFusionatoponce, yes, I unblocked it for the correct ip (the only one currently on the network)12:37
raphinkNetGeek: no idea, I don't use gnome12:37
atoponcezebraFusion, how are you trying to connect remotely?12:37
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NetGeekAntMaz: Celedga 5.1 just added support for Half-Life212:37
naetrickAnyone here set up MythTV?12:38
GarBhaDthanks for everything (restarting to install k7 kernel)12:38
AntMaznice12:38
zebraFusionatoponce: http://my.ip12:38
naetrickI have it set up, but it won't record anything, even when I press 'R' on a program12:38
menchiWelll... Whenever I try to trigger anything that requires root priveledges, it prompts me for a pass, the dissapears. When I run in a term, it says (time-admin:905): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:12:38
menchiAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.12:38
Angel_Dexcan anyone explain to me why linux has sound problems when running diff apps when windows doesnt>? its baout the only thing im hating on linux12:38
AntMazill have to get that after i upgrade my hardware12:38
raphinkzebraFusion: hmm let's see12:38
zebraFusionthe server works locally, as http://localhost works (using Firefox through VNC)12:38
atoponcezebraFusion, have you setup virtual directories?12:38
zebraFusionatoponce, are you referring to /var/www ?12:38
raphinkzebraFusion: 80/tcp filtered http12:39
AntMazvirtual network cup12:39
raphinkzebraFusion: it's still filtered somewhere it seems12:39
AntMazits java based12:39
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Fredis there another way of seeing what's using all the cpu of my box apart from top?12:39
zebraFusionraphink, that what seems to be my problem.12:39
atoponcezebraFusion, nope.  talking about the default file in the sites-enabled directory12:39
iBaloAngel_Dex: read about soundservers (esd, jack)12:39
raphinkindeed zebraFusion12:39
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Angel_DexiBalo linux cookbook have that stuff?12:40
zebraFusionatoponce, no... I haven't... I just apt-got apache2, installed php5 and threw some files in the var/www12:40
atoponcezebraFusion, you'll need something to handle your ip address or domain.12:40
raphinkzebraFusion: really it seems to be your router12:40
AntMazdamn spaztic gerbil12:40
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zebraFusionatoponce, do I need to do something else?12:40
zebraFusionatoponce, I have a no-ip account that handles my dynamic ip, if that's what you're referring to12:40
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raphinkzebraFusion: can you try an nmap -p 80 localhost?12:41
atoponcezebraFusion, yeah.  you need to setup virtual directories.  hold on, and i'll get a good tutorial link for you12:41
dabaRa fusion with a zebra?12:41
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AntMazanyone know of a good program other then freesco , that runs on a linux OS12:41
xerophytehttp://img2.uploadimages.net/show.php?img=637933network.gif i have this network .. i am trying to ping 192.168.0.10 to 192.168.2.2 .. i am not able to but i can ping 192.168.0.1 from 192.168.2.2 .. what am i missing12:41
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AntMazits a router program12:42
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_jasonmenchi: what does 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal do?12:42
atoponcezebraFusion: http://www.petersblog.org/node/84012:42
Barrymenchi, displays hi12:42
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AntMazanyone know of a good program other then freesco , that runs on a linux OS12:42
AntMazanyone know of a good program other then freesco , that runs on a linux OS12:42
AntMazits a router program12:43
Barrymenchi, you don;t need to run it as root though12:43
_jasonubotu: tell AntMaz about repeat12:43
raphinkxerophyte: what a mess12:43
iBalodunno... If you are running gnome, make sure that in System-Settings-Audio the 'start sondserver with gnome' is checked and possibly make all audio-apps use that, instaed hogging the soundcard exclusively.. also google for a decent .asoundrc12:43
menchiBarry, it doesn't accept my pass o.o12:43
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raphinkxerophyte: I think you should reset your network to get something quite logical12:43
_jasonBarry: we are troubleshooting some issues he is having with sudo12:43
xerophyteraphink, yes tesing something :)12:43
AntMazi hit enter twice acidentally12:43
thorok, i really need wireless router tips. i have ndiswrapper installed w/ a driver for my card on it and it still wont work12:43
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Barry_jason, menchi, oh :(12:43
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dabaRxerophyte: can you ping 2.2 to 0.10?12:43
ubuntu\join #ubuntu-fr12:43
xerophytedabaR, thats problem12:44
BarryContraryAntMaz: I know of one. He (sadly) does much of his programming in Windoze, but prefers Linux and all his web work is done there.12:44
nnyrikai: you around?12:44
menchiBarry, I unsu'd12:44
_jasonubotu: /join #ubuntu-fr12:44
ubotu_jason: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:44
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xerophytedabaR, i can ping from 2.2 to 0.112:44
_jasonubuntu: /join #ubuntu-fr12:44
dabaRxerophyte: can you ping 0.10 to 2.2?12:44
Angel_Dexhonestly im thinking about giving linux up cuz this sound problem TT_TT12:44
BarryContraryAntMaz: He recently did some embedded Linux control software.12:44
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daemon2evening12:44
xerophytedabaR, nop12:44
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Beandreamweaver replacement: Bluefish or Nvu ?12:44
AntMazis that right12:44
raphinkxerophyte: isn't 0.1 a switch/hub?12:44
raphinkhuh12:44
_jasonmenchi: does that command say 'hi' or give you any errors?12:44
raphinkdoh12:45
raphinkI need to sleep12:45
BarryAngel_Dex, there are ways to fix the sound issues, but they are quite involved... search the wiki/forums/tldp12:45
raphinksaying stupid things12:45
AntMazso it acts as a router if you have sevral nics installed12:45
BeanFor html/css/php site coding12:45
raphinklol12:45
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tylerhow do i play a  cdrom in linux?12:45
menchi_jason, it does nothing. It won't accept my password12:45
Angel_DexBarry I switched to alsa already and i stil have conflicts TT_TT12:45
iBaloAngel_Dex: The rule is 'Learn or Leave' :P12:45
Barrytyler, define play?12:45
dabaRxerophyte: your 2.1 has also 1.x?12:45
thorgot any wireless router tips? anyone....12:45
xerophyteraphink, its router .. and 192.168.0.30 also a reouter12:45
menchierm, therefore it does something12:45
atoponcethor, what are you trying to accomplish?12:45
raphinktyler: if it's a windows CDROM you can try to deal with it with xine12:45
tyleras in listen to mp3?12:45
raphinkwine12:45
_jasonmenchi: is this the account you created during install?12:45
raphinkargh12:45
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tylerburnt onto a cd12:45
raphinkdoh12:45
thoratoponce: get my wifi working12:45
menchiyeppers, _jason12:45
rikainny, sure am.12:46
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rikainny, just got back.12:46
AntMazbarry were did you go12:46
raphinktyler: well then just put the cdrom in the tray and close :)12:46
xerophytedabaR, 2.1 and 1.1 both are routers12:46
shane__ubotu12:46
atoponcethor, on your linux box?12:46
daemon2I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?12:46
thoryeah12:46
shane__!sources12:46
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:46
BarryAngel_Dex, AFAIK the best way is to get a card that does hardware mixing... I do not know too much about sound as mine "Just Works (tm)"12:46
thoratoponce: yes12:46
atoponcethor, if you find anything, let me know.  i am struggling with the same issue.  :)12:46
raphinktyler: then open your favorite music app and listen to it ;)12:46
_jasonmenchi: paste the output of 'groups'12:46
Angel_DexBarry built in sound XP12:46
BarryContraryHello, all. I have an old laptop running Ubuntu, and a desktop running WinXP. Both are connected to a Netgear router and have stable IPs. How do I activate, say, FTP or Telnet on my Ubuntu box so I can get to files on it from XP?12:46
dabaRxerophyte: it is too hard for me/12:46
thoratoponce: haha, thanks for the help ;)12:46
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atoponce:)12:46
menchi_jason, "groups"?12:47
_jasonmenchi: it's a command, just put it in a terminal12:47
tylerdont i have to mount it or something?12:47
atoponcethor, i thought you might want tips about securing your wifi, or the such12:47
xerophytedadaR the box in the middle of both router its linux server12:47
tyleri use mplayer...12:47
thoratoponce: you have ndiswrapper and a driver installed?12:47
menchimmhm smackywolf adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner12:47
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atoponcethor, yeah.  i have a broadcom driver-based card12:47
thoratoponce: no, i just need to get it working12:47
thoratoponce: same here12:47
_jasonBarryContrary: I would suggest ssh instead, and use winSCP on the windows box12:47
atoponcethor, me too12:47
iBaloBarryContrary: you know what samba is? (No, I'm not talking off half-naked brazilian girls :-) )12:47
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thoratoponce: is it a linksys?12:48
BarryContraryiBalo: No, I don't. I've heard of it.12:48
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AntMazwhat about full naked brazillian transexuals ha12:48
iBalo!samba12:48
ubotusamba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently12:48
BarryContrary_jason: How do I do that?12:48
atoponcethor, i know they reverse engineered a broadcom driver for linux and have it working12:48
adubcan someone help me get monitor mode working on my orinoco gold classic card12:48
daemon2I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?12:48
daemon2I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?12:48
naetrickI have it set up, but it won't record anything, even when I press 'R' on a program12:48
Barrydaemon2, don't ask to ask12:48
daemon2I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?12:49
atoponcethor, you just have to get the latest kernel sources and compile it into the kernel (pain in the butt)12:49
_jasonBarryContrary: ah yeah, samba is a better solution, listen to iBalo.  I'll send you the link on ssh anyway so you can read about it (it is more similar to ftp and telnet)12:49
naetrick(mythtv) Anybody know why this might be happening?12:49
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thoratoponce: yeah i saw that website but i didnt know what the heck they were talking about since i just switched from xp a couple days ago12:49
iBaloBarryContrary: get the link from ubotu12:49
_jasonubotu: tell BarryContrary about ssh12:49
BarryContraryiBalo: Thanks.12:49
BarryContrary_jason: Thanks.12:49
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BarryContraryiBalo: Thanks.12:49
iBalonp :-)12:49
thoratoponce: i have a driver installed on ndiswrapper and all my settings configured bu it still doesnt work12:49
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menchiTHor, what sort of a lappy do you have?12:49
atoponcethor, do you get an error?12:49
menchiErm.. If you have a lappy >.>12:50
Barrythor, what does this command output? : ndiswrapper -l12:50
AntMazbarry do you code with php12:50
_jasonmenchi: you are not in the admin group, that is why you do not have sudo access12:50
BarryAntMaz, yes why?12:50
Tinbasheris there a way to add a hotmail account to evolution mail client?12:50
thormenchi: a pc12:50
menchiAw :(12:50
thoratoponce: no, it doesnt connect at all12:50
AntMazyou use jedit12:50
naetrickthor: What's the problem? I should be able to help, I use ndiswrapper12:50
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BarryAntMaz, no gedit12:50
_jasonmenchi: did you do an expert install?12:50
menchi_jason,12:50
menchiI think so.12:50
thorBarry: wmp54gs driver present, hardware present12:50
_jasonmenchi: so you setup root during the install?12:51
AntMazi installed jedit on here12:51
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AntMazubuntu12:51
menchiRoot works, yes.12:51
_jasonubotu: tell menchi about expert12:51
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BarryAntMaz, ... well done?12:51
menchithanks <312:51
AntMazknow of any compiling software other then apache12:51
naetrickthor: Did you set your ESSID correctly?12:51
AntMazim just saying if you want to use that instead you could12:51
daemon2I have a RTL 8139 network card, onboard in an ASUS 5028, if I reboot from XP to Linux it works OK, but if I shut down, and then turn it on it is not working. Can not figure it out why. Autonegotiation does not succeed. already tried fixed 10/100 HD/FD modes manually. No luck. The machine on the other end of the cable says Network Cable unplugged.12:51
thornaetrick: i have driver installed for my wifi card, network settings configured, the works, i press connect , it takes a while and says enabled but no internet12:52
BarryAntMaz, thanks but I am fine with gedit :D12:52
thornaetrick: yeah, is there a difference of ESSID and SSID?12:52
naetrickthor: same thing :)12:52
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thornaetrick: ok then yeah12:52
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AntMazok but jedit doesnt have those pretty colors in ubuntu12:52
menchi_jason, you win with the internets <312:52
AntMazgedit does haha12:52
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Barrydaemon2, it sounds like windows loads some magic firmware that is persistant.... you will be better searching the forums for your specific network card12:53
_jasonmenchi: great :)12:53
naetrickthor: Try this: "sudo apt-get install dhcpcd;dhcpcd wlan0", or replace wlan0 with what your card is registered as12:53
naetrickand make that "sudo dhcpcd wlan0"12:53
thornaetrick: alright one sec...12:53
iBalodaemon2: this sounds lke your nic is requiring some firmware at boottime... it' still there if you warm-boot from xp, but gone if you just run ubuntu12:53
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AntMazi have a realtek 813912:53
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menchi_jason, now stab stepmania and make it compile =/12:53
HarpStepmania!!12:54
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_jasonmenchi: what is stepmania?12:54
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HarpThere's a open source stepmania?!12:54
IdleOnehow do I create an image of my hard drive so I can back up / reinstall later?12:54
steve60morning/afternoon/evening which ever the case maybe12:54
Chaihello everyone12:54
AntMazwhats stepmania12:54
naetrickIdleOne: "dd if=/dev/hd* of=hdimage.img"12:54
midwinteryou dont want to know.12:55
iBaloIdleOne: check partition image (partimage)12:55
menchi_jason, a DDR game for PC.12:55
jtacydaemon2: does the driver load ok according to dmesg?12:55
_jasonmenchi: oh12:55
atoponceAntMaz, google it :)12:55
menchiHarp, Stepmania IS opensource XP12:55
Harpstepmania is a game where you use your feet to step on these arrows on a map :D12:55
steve60anyone know of any cool application i can get for ubuntu12:55
AntMazyou sound like my cousin12:55
Harpmat*12:55
atoponcethx12:55
naetrickIdleOne: You can change the various settings to make it faster (man dd). It reads bytes from /dev/hd* (if) and writes them to file (of),12:55
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naetrickthor: What do you get?12:55
thornaetrick: i get a bunch of "couldn't stat source package list errors12:55
menchiHarp, the only reason it's not in apt is because of the legal issues with the music12:56
iBalodaemon2: it's just common sense, i can't help you in detail12:56
IdleOnenaetrick:  how do I write them to cd?12:56
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AntMazme and him talk about nerdy things for hours12:56
[MilMazz] Buenas12:56
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daemon2The wierd thing is that today morning i turned it on and went straight to ubuntu. Worked...12:56
AntMazif i give him a question he says google it12:56
yanimaxis it possible to remove a search engine from the google bar ?12:56
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daemon2the other end detected network cable plugged in while i was in the grub menu....12:56
naetrickIdleOne: You mean directly? You could just write the image to file and then burn it...12:57
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iBalodaemon2: whta does dmeg tell you?12:57
steve60anyone know of and app that will stream Shoutcast in ubuntu or live tv12:57
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iBalodaemon2: what does dmesg tell you?12:57
AntMazi tried installing ubuntu on this dell i have with two nic cards and it crashed12:57
oklinuxhow do I check to see what version of ubuntu I installed ?12:57
IdleOnenaetrick:  ok and later on when I want to re install I just pop the cd ?12:57
AntMazsystem about ubuntu12:57
midwinteroklinux: cat /etc/issue12:58
AntMazi was guessing12:58
steve60!shoutcast12:58
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, steve6012:58
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IdleOnenaetrick:  what I want is to install Suse to try it out but if I dont like Suse I dont want to have to configure ubuntu all over again12:59
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smbah.. is there a better newsreader than thunderbird ?01:00
ubuntuanyone try ubunto with vmware?01:00
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OmegaAlphaHow do i get access to my external harddrive?01:00
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nickrudsm I like pan for newreading myself01:00
_jasonmenchi: how far have you gotten in the build process01:01
menchi_jason, I have gotten to make, and all goes well, then it just randomly exploded, giving some error or another01:01
steve60anyone know if a player that will stream shoutcast and live TV01:01
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menchiI;m trying again01:01
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iBalo!mplayer01:01
ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106101:02
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menchiI got the files clean again, and started from scratch, but this time with all dependancies satisfied.01:02
rachanaubotu movies01:02
uboturachana: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:02
rachanaubotu video01:02
uboturachana: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:02
_jasonmenchi: ok lets race to the error, I'm compiling it too01:03
iBalo!codecs01:03
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories01:03
Drac[Server] I'm trying to build something and I'm getting an error saying that "msgfmt" is not found. Is there a package that covers this?01:03
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rachanahow to play video in ubuntu anyone01:03
_jasonubotu: tell rachana about multimedia01:03
menchiIt's coming... it might actually work this time =/01:03
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menchiFOUND IT! :D01:03
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menchi=/01:03
_jasonmenchi: hrmm01:03
steve60rachana, try getting the w32 codecs01:03
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omnidamn, ubuntu kernal update has messed my wireless up bad01:04
IdleOnenaetrick: dd: opening `/dev/hd*': No such file or directory01:04
steve60"streaming01:04
daemon2I really dont know where to ask. is there some kind of a developer forum?01:04
steve60!streaming01:04
ubotusteve60: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:04
adubhow can i determine what firmware my orinoco pcmcia card is running01:04
menchi_jason, I tried PMing to you, but I couldn't01:05
_jasonubotu: tell menchi about register01:05
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menchiowell. LuaFunctions.h:10:20: error: lualib.h: No such file or directory is the major bit01:05
naetrickIdleOne: Replace * with your hard drive partition letter you want to make the image of01:05
menchiFFS, that was the first one I installed01:05
_jasonmenchi: did you install the -dev package for it?  my compile is still going01:06
menchiJust doing that now =/01:06
menchiI;m such a dumbass01:06
IdleOnenaetrick:  I dont know which letter that would be01:06
jtacydaemon2: I wonder if the implementation of that chipset on that board is slightly non-standard...I'm assuming you googled to see if other people have had the same problem01:06
Madpilotdaemon2: #ubuntu-devel channel01:07
smnickrud: thanks.. has development stopped ?01:07
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nickrudsm, so I hear, but it works well anyway01:07
smthunderbird has forgotten which messages I've read, again01:08
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smand in solidarity, firefox has just forgotten my url history01:08
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menchi_jason, if I tried to compile the first time, and it failed, do I have to get the source again, or can I just try with the same files?01:09
jtacydaemon2: I would get an e100 and save myself the headache...these cheapo onboard chipsets aren't worth dealing with01:09
_jasonmenchi: make clean, then start again from ./configure01:09
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menchiOK, thanks01:09
jtacydaemon2: the only "fix" would be to write vendor-specific hacks into the drivers...that's not a maintainable solution01:09
_jasonmenchi: ha I jsut got your error01:09
iBalosm, might it be that your TB and FF proflies reside on a vfat partition?01:09
menchiHeheh.01:09
Fredis there a way of forcing a umount of a NFS export?01:10
jtacydaemon2: ohhh, it's a laptop? no wonder01:10
smno iBalo, they're on ext301:10
smnickrud: do you use pan with gmane ? it's not showing me the groups01:10
jtacydaemon2: I think the laptop engineers have contests to find out who can create the most backwards design...have you tried any bios updates or anything?01:10
menchi_jason, compiling stresses me. BRB01:11
nickrudsm yes I do01:11
smah.. here they are01:11
naetrickIdleOne: Hmm... how many partitions do you have?01:12
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IdleOne101:12
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jtacydaemon2: there's always the possibility that the rtl8139 driver maintainer has already integrated a hack to make this work...you might just need to compile that custom module against the kernel01:12
tattershow do I know who or what own a folder?01:12
smnickrud: thanks, I'll give it a try01:13
nickrudtatters, from the desktop, right click->properties->permissions01:13
skanderhi tatters.... type in a console ls -la so see who or what is owning a file01:13
nickrudtatters, in a terminal, ls -ld <dir>01:13
naetrickIdleOne: Try typing "sudo fdisk /dev/hda", and then "p". Then find the partition number whose type is "Linux"01:13
tattersk thnx01:13
jtacydaemon2: or try the latest kernel...it could be frustrating to fix01:13
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naetrickthat will be the partition you want to use, if you want your main partition backed up01:13
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots01:13
_jasontatters: so many choices huh01:13
ryanakcais it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?01:13
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skander;)01:14
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IdleOnenaetrick:  /dev/hda101:14
adubsomething is not right everytime i try to compile orinoco drivers that im downloading from the web the compile crashes01:14
steve60does anyone know how i can play streaming live videos in firefox01:14
damnhilDoes anyone use xawtv or motv?01:14
steve60and what codecs i need01:14
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damnhilsteve60: you need mplayer01:15
tilosnaetrick, fdisk -l will show you list of your partitions01:15
naetrickIdleOne: Ok, then that's the one you want :) Unless there are other partitions whose system is "Linux"01:15
_jasonsteve60: mplayer plugin with w32codecs will play most01:15
skandersteve... just apt-get install mplayer and its plugins (also for firefox)01:15
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tilosnaetrick, df -h will show you where did you mount them01:15
_jasonubotu: tell steve60 about mplayer01:15
IdleOnenaetrick:  thats the only one01:15
naetricktilos: Thanks, forgot about that :)01:15
damnhilsteve60: you have to configure /etc/apt/source.list. Mplayer-mozilla plugin has memory leak. I am warning you01:15
steve60i mean from firefox browser not mplayer01:15
_jasonubotu: tell steve60 about w32codecs01:15
ryanakcaanyone?01:15
jtacydaemon2: it might be interesting to see if a livecd distro exhibits the same problem, just for fun01:15
nickrudSteil, sudo apt-gert instal mozilla-mplayer01:15
naetrickIdleOne: Ok, now before you do "dd", make sure you have at least the same amount of space free as is used on the partition01:15
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damnhilsteve: Install mplayer-mozilla plugin01:16
skandersteve... yu need the mplayer plkugin for firefox01:16
nickruddamnhil, really? a leak!01:16
skanderthen it will play ;)01:16
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steve60thanx ppl01:16
damnhilnickrud: It happened to me once. I almost filled my memory01:16
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ryanakcais it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?01:17
steve60what happens if it fills ya memory01:17
nickruddamnhil, I have a leak somewhere here, that's something to look at01:17
menchi_jason, it's still going o.o01:17
nickrudsteve60, the kernel will start killing processes left and right01:17
smgosh it's a long time since I tried a new newsreader01:17
naetricksteve60: Linux is good with that. It shouldn't do too much harm... worst case you'll run out of RAM and your swap will fill up. That's the worst that has happened to me :)01:17
smlook at all the pretty lights :)01:17
daemon2after 8 hours of sleeping it worked01:18
steve60the ay it was siad then sounded like it would kill my machine01:18
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jtacydaemon2: I would suspect something in the power management because that's where they typically screw up laptops01:18
skanderI cant install transcode on my Ubuntu 5.04 installation....01:19
adubcan someone help me get the orinoco drivers to compile correctly01:19
ryanakcahmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots01:19
ryanakcais it something wrong with the login manager itself or the config files or what?01:19
steve60now i got that anyone know of a streaming live shoutcast player?01:19
tattersive been trying to setup sll on apache2 server everything seems to work apart from an error when I try access the ssl site->>Directory index forbidden by rule: /var/www-ssl/html/01:19
menchisteve60, try XMMS01:19
nickrudsteve60, try streamtuner, and maybe use beep-media-player or xmms as the player01:19
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tattersim not sure what rule is affecting it01:20
jtacydaemon2: I wonder if you can alter those settings in the bios? other than that, try a usb ethernet, some work in linux01:20
steve60thanx01:20
menchinickrud, I just used a normal XMMS install, and I can listen to streams =/ go figure01:20
jtacydaemon2: you could certainly compile a kernel without apm or acpi01:20
nickrudmenchi, streamtuner is a nice way to browse streams, that's all01:20
jtacydaemon2: but I think that's a compile-time option01:20
skanderis mencoder the same as transcode? would need to convert vrom g3p to mpg (SonyErricson)01:20
menchinickrud, cool :)01:20
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iBalobe afraid!01:22
Kyoany guide to enhance the security of ubunut?01:22
menchiiBalo, I'm more afraid because it seems to be working o.o01:22
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iBaloKyo: don't touch anything01:22
crabamarok won't start for me.  how do I go about troubleshooting?  It just hangs :(01:22
skanderSomebody knows how to convert 3gp files (playable in RealPlayer) to MPG (MPEG-1)?01:22
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KyoiBalo, hmm..01:23
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Kyowhy not01:23
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OmegaAlphalol i just got ignored in the linux channel01:23
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OmegaAlphafragging cocky nerds01:23
skanderme too.....01:23
OmegaAlphagrrr i hate ppl like that01:23
phos-phorosis it true, that in Heaven every day is Christmas?01:23
midwinterOmegaAlpha, check your status window01:23
skandernobody is answering to my questions01:23
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djpdoes anyone know that if you use the following tip, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456&highlight=overscan, will it enable overscan for output to the tv (for movies etc)? otherwise am i better off using nvtv?01:23
crabsure, why not.  of course it's Christmas every day01:23
OmegaAlphaskander you were in that channel to?01:24
ChurcH_of_FoamY!W32codecs01:24
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:24
eriscois it true that you can configure your system to use hard drive space if there is not enough RAM space?01:24
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OmegaAlphamidwinter, i dont know what a status window is01:24
iBaloKyo: by default ubuntu has no running services, thus no open ports. It's a brick wall. Only if you intend to use it as a server, you have to worry about hardening01:24
nbound!ndiswrapper01:24
ubotuI guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:24
skanderOmegaAlpha... no.. im getting ignored in this channel01:24
OmegaAlphai asked a question that relates to that channel... and they are like.. go read a bok01:24
OmegaAlphaits like why do you think we have these channels jerks..01:24
KyoiBalo, oh really ... Hmm. Not even telnet?01:25
midwinterOmegaAlpha, ah ignore me.01:25
OmegaAlphaskander r u sure?01:25
nboundOmegaAlpha, what was ur q?01:25
OmegaAlphadont know how to01:25
skanderyou are the only one talking to me01:25
yanimaxI'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?01:25
iBaloKyo: tel... what?01:25
eriscois it true that you can configure your system to use hard drive space if there is not enough RAM space?.... any guesses?01:25
OmegaAlphahow to get my hard drive to show up in FLUXBOX...01:25
KyoTelnet.01:25
jvaillmao!!! qq'n01:25
Kyoheh01:25
OmegaAlphamy ext harddrive... that is...01:25
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menchiHah. My friend has a theory on Ndiswrapper. It's like owning a souped up sportscar, but then getting four guys to put beams under it and carry you places while you yell directions from the drivers seat. It works, but it's kinda retarded.01:26
skanderhm... on the desktop?01:26
nbounderisco, its called virtual memory its slow and crap, upgrade ur ram :)01:26
nickrudskander, personally I'm not ignoring you, just don't have even a possible answer :)01:26
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skander;)01:26
OmegaAlphaskander, desktop or filemanger.. or even to see it in terminal- media folder01:26
erisconbound, it is not possible for me to upgrade my RAM. So this virtual memory is my best option01:26
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tattersanyone use apache2 sll on ubuntu know what ,,Directory index forbidden by rule: means01:26
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erisconbound, how do I "activate" it?01:26
nboundOmegaAlpha, hmmm i dunno ive had little interaction with fluxbox, and when i did it was already set up with the hardrive like uve said01:26
OmegaAlphait shows up in GNOME no problem... just not with FLUXBOX01:26
tattersDirectory index forbidden by rule: /var/www-ssl/html/01:26
Adri2000why isn't there flight 4 here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/ ?01:26
skanderwhich filemanager are you using in FluxBox?01:27
midwintererisco, usually you set up swap space on install01:27
nbounderisco, should be on by default, some proggys wont run if there isnt enough actual ram though01:27
OmegaAlphaand i dont dare ask this question in #fluxbox theyll bitch at ya lol they are stricktly decorations and placement chats01:27
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erisconbound, I am not so sure if it is on. Is there a way that I can check?01:27
nboundand the ones that do.. unless ur just under the req's for it.. will be slow as molasses on a cold morning01:27
midwintererisco, type free in a terminal01:28
iBaloKyo: it's got a telnet client, but no telnetd... and using telnet instead of ssh anyway is stupid01:28
c13anyone know how to set configuration of login screen ? the hertz like, the screen resolution01:28
OmegaAlphai want to get it seen so i dont have to switch to GNOME everytime i want to burn a cd or watch a movie off my ext hd.. :(01:28
eriscowidwinter, free -m results in 50MB of free space currently01:28
Adri2000why isn't there dapper flight 4 here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/ ?01:28
eriscomidwinter, I have this, a browser, a terminal, and text editor opened01:29
eriscoI only have 256MB of ram!01:29
SeveasAdri2000, because there is no flight 4 yet01:29
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midwintererisco, running gnome?01:29
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eriscomidwinter, as in the desktop thingie right? yes01:29
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Adri2000Seveas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4#head-cf4a6bcd57bd762d393a0390bb3345aae3bae49f01:29
tiloscat /proc/swaps01:29
menchierisco, me too. Yet I am listening to music, compiling stepmania, browsing the net, chatting on Gaim and am in IRC. 256mb wins.01:30
eriscomidwinter, are there any things I can do to minimize my RAM usuage?01:30
Kyoheh01:30
SeveasAdri2000, read the first 3 words below the title...01:30
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midwintererisco, probably I would look into using xfce or something instead of gnome01:30
eriscomenchi, are there any things I can do to minimize my ram usage? =\01:30
Adri2000WORK IN PROGRESS01:30
Adri2000 oops ok :p01:30
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menchierisco, it sounds like you are bloated up =/01:31
menchignome is running quite happily for me =/01:31
eriscomenchi, well Linux does take a lot of RAM01:31
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tattersanyone use apache2 sll on ubuntu know what ,,Directory index forbidden by rule: means?01:31
midwinterit's not linux that does, it's gnome01:32
Madpiloterisco: Linux uses all the RAM it can find01:32
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menchiSysInfo: Mem: 89/234M [||||||||||] 01:32
midwinterbut it does use ram aggressively but that's not the same thing.01:32
menchiNot really all that much.01:32
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Adri2000tatters: a rule which doesn't allow directory listing ? :p01:32
ChrisxXxhey how do i get package manager open via SSH?01:32
eriscoMadpilot, using the gnome desktop, do you know of anythings I could disable to lower my RAM usage?01:32
skandertatters... maybe its declied by the config file?01:32
menchiIt's using a lot less than windows was doing the same thing.01:32
skandercheck the settings for the directory01:32
Madpiloterisco: not offhand - how much ram do you have?01:32
skanderseems to be the directory listing oiption01:33
eriscoMadpilot... 25001:33
GuillaumeOn boot ive got an error on Syncronizing clock ntp.ubuntulinux.org failed.. can you help me please?01:33
ChrisxXxhey how do i get package manager open via SSH?01:33
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menchiGuillaume, that isn;t much to worry about01:33
Barryhow do I check the stack size of the kernel ? or does anyone know what the ubuntu default is for the xmp kern ?01:33
tattersbut I can browse the directory01:33
Barry*smp not xmp01:33
Guillaumemenchi: i should disable the service ?01:33
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Madpiloterisco: you could ask about running XFCE on your desktop instead of Gnome01:33
GregAschewhat's the key combo to kill an app open in the terminal?01:33
menchiit's just that it's trying to synch your clock to the online clock, and failing because your net drivers aren't loaded yet01:34
Madpilotgreg: Ctrl+C01:34
midwinterGregAsche, ctrl c01:34
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menchiIf the error bothers you =/01:34
Adri2000Guillaume: what sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntulinux.org returns ?01:34
menchiI get it, too.01:34
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GregAschethanks01:34
GuillaumeThx Adri2000 wait a moment01:34
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ChrisxXxhey how do i get package manager open via SSH?01:34
eriscoMadpilot, thanks I will look into that01:34
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MordofAnyone here play warcraft 3 in wine? i have a few config questions.. first off (how come i cant play 32 bit) secondly, (how do i change the mouse cursor)01:35
_jasonChrisxXx: use apt-get01:35
GuillaumeAdri2000: 16 Feb 14:35:02 ntpdate[8783] : no server suitable for synchronization found01:35
iBaloGuillaume: nothing to worry about, it's just tht your internet connection isn't u at boottime. you could use sysv-rc-conf to switch off ntpdate at boot to make the 'failed' go away01:35
ChrisxXx_jason i dont know the package name01:35
KerPlunk_!tell Mordof about cedega01:35
djpanyone know about tv-out, nvidia, nvtv etc?01:35
_jasonChrisxXx: apt-cache search term1 term2 term301:35
KerPlunk_Mordof: /join #cedega01:35
GuillaumeAdri2000: i just disabled UTC because it was desync my windows xp clock01:35
ChrisxXxokay thanks01:36
ChrisxXxCya01:36
MordofKerPlunk_, k, thanks01:36
c13anyone know how to modify the hertz on the login screen?01:36
eriscoMadpilot, just a quick question... how will I actually be able to use this Desktop?01:36
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eriscoMadpilot, how would I start it?01:36
Adri2000Guillaume: i have the same error, i changed the ntp server01:36
GuillaumeI tried to change it but it failed another time01:36
Guillaumeperhaps the server was wrong01:36
Kyowhy is sapper unstable? and when was breezy released?01:36
Guillaumecan you refer me one that work01:36
Madpiloterisco: XFCE? You can set it up to start automatically, instead of Gnome - but I haven't done that myself, I have more than enough RAM to keep Gnome happy (1Gb...)01:37
Adri2000/etc/default/ntpdate < you can put here another server which works01:37
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eriscoMadpilot... not automatically, but manually01:37
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MadpilotKyo: Dapper won't be fully released until April - Breezy was released in October01:37
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MordofKerPlunk_, i thought cedega costed money01:37
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_jasonKyo: breezy was released in 5.10, that is 2005.october.  Dapper will be released in 6.04, 2006.april01:37
eriscoMadpilot, it should not be required to use it all the time, as I can do most things just fine01:37
KerPlunk_Mordof: it does01:38
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Madpiloterisco: you'll have to ask someone else, I haven't used anything but Gnome on this box - sorry.01:38
Mabus06I have a off topic question, but the people in here are smart and I don't know where else to ask. My electricity cuts out every now and then. The onlly way I can get it to work again (found this on accident) is to turn the burner of my stove on. The instant I turn it on, my electricity works again. Can somebody just demystify me a bit?01:38
menchiWtf.01:39
eriscoMadpilot, no problem01:39
KyoAwesome01:39
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CanYouHelpMePlzMabus06: now that is really f*cking weird01:39
Mabus06Yeah really01:39
KerPlunk_Mordof: transgaming created cedega off a fork of wine from awhile ago when wine was still under a bsd style license. You can have anonymous cvs access to cedega and compile it yourself.01:39
KerPlunk_But there are legal restrictions and it's not technically free software.01:39
_jasonMabus06: your stove is electric I assume?01:40
Xenguyerisco: you want to use xfce4 ?01:40
MordofKerPlunk_, any chance you could help me with thaT? :P01:40
menchimabu: do you have all the kernel patches?01:40
menchi*mabus01:40
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rachanaubotu multimedia01:40
ubotuI guess multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications01:40
Mabus06_jason: the clock on it is electric but the rest is gas01:40
eriscoXenguy, yes I do. I have it installed, but do not know how to start it01:40
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KerPlunk_Mordof: wine now is licensed under lgpl, which means any code from when the license was changed for wine from bsd to lgpl..can't be used by cedega.01:40
Mabus06menchi: kernel patches?01:40
_jasonMabus06: then taht is really weird.....01:40
WezlFawltylol01:41
KerPlunk_Mordof: just illegally download it01:41
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purpleheart_USMCI'm having trouble getting my computer to rip cd's into mp3's...any ideas?01:41
KerPlunk_fuck transgaming01:41
KerPlunk_Mordof: check www.thepiratebay.org01:41
Mabus06Although I assume even gas stoves need some sort of electricity.01:41
pianoboy3333I was told bmpx could play m4p's but it's not working, i can't find my m4p's in the library, and I don't like how it is set up: Artist, CD Title, Track01:41
Xenguyerisco: OK, so when gdm starts and you go to login, choose 'Sessions' instead...01:41
Frebrdmy ati drivers continuously break can some one help me???01:41
_jasonKerPlunk_: not here01:41
GuillaumeCommand for disabling Clock syncro on boot for ubuntu?01:41
KerPlunk_transgaming is "making a quick buck" off the back of the Wine project,01:41
SeveasFrebrd, 'continuously break'?01:41
WezlFawltymabus06 pilotless stoves make a "click click click" when you ask for fire01:41
Frebrdyes Seveas01:41
Xenguyerisco: you can then choose it for just that session, or else as your default desktop (it asks you what you prefer to do)01:41
SeveasKerPlunk_, nonsense, cedega has serious added value.01:41
Madpilotpurpleheart_USMC: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping01:42
MordofKerPlunk_, if it was just off of wine... cedega wouldnt support alot more01:42
Mabus06WezlFawlty: The 'instant' I turn the burner on my electricity goes back.01:42
Mordoftheir support page is huge01:42
eriscoXenguy, thanks01:42
Barryhow do I check the stack size of the kernel ? or does anyone know what the ubuntu default is for the smp kern ?01:42
KerPlunk_Mordof: right01:42
Frebrdit stops working when linux freezes when an opengl app is open. i can't fix it so i end up reinstalling linux01:42
pianoboy3333What will play my m4p's from the itunes store?01:42
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Mabus06I should specify that only some of my electric things go down. And they're not in the same region of the house at all and it almost seems random.01:42
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GuillaumeWhat is the command for disabling Clock cyncronization on starup please01:43
Mabus06And it seems odd that a circuit would contain a hall light, one of my room's sockets and my oven.01:43
volvoguyhey folks. i'm having an nvidia binary driver issue on a laptop. native display size is 1024x768, which is what I have set in xorg.conf. unfortunately what i see is only the upper left corner of what looks to be a giant desktop. the only weird thing i've seen so far is from X's log - "Adding EDID-provided mode "1280x1024" for DFP-0." somehow X is getting the idea that the display's resolution is bigger than it should be. any though01:43
volvoguyts?01:43
WezlFawltyMabus06 get an electrician..... sounds like a loose connection... this house once had a bad common coming in off the pole... caused all kinds of weird problems01:43
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_jasonMabus06: gremlins01:43
menchiMabus06, compiler errors01:43
WezlFawltylol01:44
Mabus06menchi: ?01:44
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KerPlunk_Mordof: type this as root "apt-get install bittornado; btdownloadcurses http://static.thepiratebay.org/downloadtorrent/3407082.torrent/Cedega_5_DEP.3407082.TPB.torrent;"01:44
nboundsorry to the ppl i was helping before i had to go n eat01:44
KerPlunk_Mordof: Then you have the free version of Cedega.01:44
menchiThe bastards never get all the dependancies right when they compile houses theses days01:44
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Madpilotmenchi: his house was compiled incorrectly? :P01:44
pianoboy3333What will play my m4p's from the iTunes music store?01:44
MordofKerPlunk_, nah, i think im actually gonna pay for it01:44
iBaloMabus06: you should go to #ubuntu-offtopic and seriously check your electrical installation for light bow's and burning traces... We don't want to loose ubuntu users by burning down their homes :P01:44
Mabus06Oh that was probably a joke.. I apologise but this whole thing has sort of killed my sense of humor temporarily.01:44
MordofKerPlunk_, its not that expensive01:44
Frebrdanyone knoiw where the xorg logs are?01:44
menchiMabus06, you do realize this is chat for a linux OS< right?01:45
Kyoer, how would I open a .zip file?01:45
david_m_eanybody know how i run the Linux equivalent to 'scandisk' from the Ubuntu menu system, and if not available, what the command is in terminal ? (thanks)01:45
WezlFawltyMabus06 u do need a eh... "professional" :P01:45
pianoboy3333KerPlunk_: It really isn't--only 5/mo01:45
pianoboy3333I was thinking of suscribing, but i don't know if it's worth it since i HAVE windows....01:45
volvoguyFrebrd, they're in /var/log/01:45
pianoboy3333What program will play my m4p's from the iTunes music store?01:45
tattersou don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.01:46
KerPlunk_You mean you have to keep paying them every month01:46
purpleheart_USMCI can't find gstreamer0.8-lame ... I'm using dapper drake btw01:46
menchiTHat made me lol hardcore. I;m sorry. :(01:46
nboundpianoboy3333, m4p's or mp4's?01:46
_jasonpurpleheart_USMC: it's version 10 now01:46
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purpleheart_USMCty01:46
pianoboy3333nbound: the extension on the file is .m4p01:46
Mabus06WezlFawlty: My oven trick will have to work for now, for my poor self.01:46
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nboundu know what codec they use?01:46
pianoboy3333nbound: nope, but I think I have all the gstreamer codecs01:47
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MordofKerPlunk_, no, you only have to pay for 1 month.. you just dont get any service or stuff after that month ends, you can still use cedega01:47
KerPlunk_ahh, that's a pretty cool business model.01:48
Mabus06menchi, I realise that, if you read my first query you'd know that I know. Please read before you comment.01:48
nboundpianoboy3333, if its a mpeg4 movie, get faac and ffmpeg01:48
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menchiI know, I'm sorry.01:48
volvoguyKerPlunk_, if you're thinking about Cedega, it's worth it compared to trying to get WINE to do the same things.01:48
pianoboy3333nbound: I know that, but I believe it is a mpeg4 song.01:48
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Frebrdanyone want to look at my xorg log I NEED HELP!!!01:48
pianoboy3333Frebrd01:48
menchiI'm over tired, and that was random enough to amuse me greatly01:48
pianoboy3333Frebrd: kk01:48
nboundpianoboy3333, well faac should fix it01:49
nboundmost mpeg4 audio is in aac format01:49
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volvoguysongs from the iTunes music store are aac, but they have DRM built in.01:49
pianoboy3333nbound: right, how do I play that01:50
purpleheart_USMC_jason: its not working stil...can you look at what my outout was from the terminal?01:50
Frebrdhttp://pastebin.com/558743 theres my log01:50
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_jasonpurpleheart_USMC: sure01:50
nboundpianoboy3333, should play in totem01:50
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volvoguypianoboy3333, check this out - http://www.hymn-project.org/01:50
pianoboy3333nbound: do i need the program faac?01:50
KerPlunk_volvoguy: nah if I wanted Cedega I would just illegally download it.01:51
KerPlunk_volvoguy: /lastlog piratebay01:51
nboundid say so, it wont hurt anyway01:51
purpleheart_USMC_jason: http://pastebin.com/55874601:51
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rachanaanyone know how to download and install mono ?01:51
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pianoboy3333ok01:52
Frebrd:(01:52
jetscreamerisohunt >01:52
jetscreamerwell01:52
jetscreameri llike the format better01:52
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_jasonpurpleheart_USMC: apparently I was mistaken, i jsut checked packages.ubuntu.com and that packages is still 801:52
kbrooksrachana, apt-get install mono01:52
Madpilotrachana: if you use Synaptic to install a mono-using app - TomBoy, for example - it'll pull all the mono stuff in too01:52
_jasonpurpleheart_USMC: make sure you have multiverse01:52
tattersanyone use apache2 /sll    with ubuntu ?01:52
purpleheart_USMCk01:53
volvoguyKerPlunk_, eh, it's not that expensive to join, download and cancel. plus you're giving back a bit for future development. that's just me though. ;)01:53
PrimoTurboAnyone here using XGL?01:53
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volvoguyPrimoTurbo, i was just getting ready to play with that now.01:53
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geoffrianDoes anyone here have Verizon DSL???01:53
mattywhy does my nvidia-settings now have any settings? heh it used to be like a control panel01:54
mattys/now/not01:54
geoffrianDoes anyone have DSL in Linux???01:54
jetscreamerno01:54
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jetscreamerbtw do you mean damn small linux or digital subscriber line01:54
jetscreamer#dsl01:54
jetscreamerbut nobody has either01:55
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geoffrianDigital Subscriber Line01:55
jetscreamernope01:55
jetscreamerwhy01:55
volvoguygeoffrian, not personally, but a friend has it and considers it a huge frustration.01:55
rachanahi i installed multimedia codecs but which application i shud use to open wmv files ?01:55
mattyrachana: mplayer01:55
jetscreamer'aviplay but it's probably not around01:55
geoffrianWhat high speed internet can I get for Ubuntu??01:55
Adri2000rachana: mplayer or totem01:55
jetscreamergeoffrian: whatever is available in your area01:55
rachanawhere is mplayer01:55
jetscreamerand what you want to pay for01:55
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jetscreamer!mplayer01:55
ubotuit has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106101:55
rachanai see only totem01:55
rachanai dont see mplayer01:56
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jetscreamerit's not in standard sources01:56
Madpilotrachana: Totem will play wmv01:56
geoffrianAs far as I know they have programs that need to be run in Windows01:56
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volvoguygeoffrian, cable internet plugged into a linksys router/firewall works great for me.01:56
jetscreamergeoffrian: those programs are crap, you don't even need them in windows01:56
jetscreamergeoffrian: seriously01:56
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Madpilotgeoffrian: I've used both ADSL & cable w/ Ubuntu, and they both "just work"01:57
geoffrianGood, so if they say Windows is a requirement, it isn't??01:57
rachanait says there were no decoders01:57
steve60anyone know of any good games to get for linux01:57
jetscreamernot for something like pppoe01:57
Madpilotgeoffrian: if they say that, they don't know what they're talking about...01:57
volvoguygeoffrian, i asked the installer to just drop the stuff off. i set it up myself.01:57
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jetscreamerwhich is what most dsl is using01:57
Zenhey guys01:57
tatterslynksys wrt54g is excellent piece of cheap tart01:57
tatterstat01:57
jetscreamerthe PROGRAMS require windows01:57
geoffrianWhere do I go in the control center to set it up??01:57
Dasnipa`what does it mean if after running apt-get update i get this error:   W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems01:57
jetscreamerbut to access the dsl you don't need the programs01:57
rachanai downloaded codecs01:57
steve60anyone know of any good games to get for linux01:58
Madpilotrachana: get the w32codecs01:58
Zenyup01:58
jetscreamerpppoeconf in xterm .. sudo pppoeconf01:58
jetscreamersteve60: any idsoftware game... enemy territory is free...01:58
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Madpilotgeoffrian: plug your computer into the web connection before you start it - it should auto-detect & run automatically01:58
volvoguygeoffrian, ditto tatters. i think most ISP's realize people have home LANs. with comcast, all that's required is plugging the ethernet from the cable modem into the linksys wrt54g.01:58
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geoffrianOk, thanks.01:59
Dasnipa`tomorrow is a HUG day yay01:59
jetscreameryou have to set the router up with your username and password volvoguy01:59
jetscreamerbut that's all01:59
volvoguyjetscreamer, i never did.01:59
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tattersI got a static IP but by cloning my mac with the linksys router I get a fresh ip01:59
volvoguyjetscreamer, oh... on the linksys side. i gotcha. i thought you mean comcast required it.01:59
jetscreamervolvoguy: or the dsl modem... but that's time warner and sbcglobal01:59
rachanamadpilot: i downloaded it and it is not installing02:00
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sagarpcan i use x11r7 without upgrading to dapper02:00
Madpilotrachana: have you followed the RestrictedFormats wiki page?02:00
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jetscreamersagarp: why do you need to02:00
Nunquam_FidelisHas anyone tried/successfully installed compiz?02:00
tattersI flashed my though with dd-wrt firmware02:00
rachanamadpilot: yes i downloaded all the repos02:00
jetscreameryeah i wanna try some linux bios in a linksys soon02:00
sagarpjetscreamer, i just want to have hte latest x11, but i know dapper is still beta02:00
volvoguyi'm going to go bug the nvidia channel about my driver problem. catch ya'll later.02:00
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jetscreamersagarp: same question. what in r7 do you need that 6.9 doesn't give you02:01
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Madpilotrachana: try installing totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer - -gstreamer is buggy for me02:01
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jetscreamerbut yes you can if you know what you're doing02:01
jetscreamerbut ubuntu won't support it02:01
mattyanyone know how to turn on vsync for xgl?02:01
jetscreamerMadpilot: yeah i've seen that too02:01
rachanamadpilot: how to install totem-xine?02:01
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jetscreamerapt-get install totem-xine02:02
jetscreameri like xine-ui myself02:02
tattersdd-wrt firmware 2.4 will alow multiple SSIDs from same box so I can have a wpa2 network and public network on  same AP02:02
Madpilotrachana: search for it in Synaptic - it'll overwrite your existing totem-gstreamer install, and the menu entry for totem won't change02:02
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rachanamadpilot: ok02:03
sagarpjetscreamer, i have xorg 6.802:03
jetscreamerok so same question02:03
sagarpjetscreamer, i wouldnt know, since i never used 7.0, which is exactly why i would like to try it out, to see if it's much different for myself02:04
jetscreamersagarp: x.org02:04
jetscreamergo forth young man02:04
sagarp=/02:04
jetscreamer:)02:04
jetscreameryou can check the changelog and see if you really want it ...02:05
rachanamadpilot:02:05
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rachanai see totem-gstreamer in green02:06
rachanaand totem-xine with a star02:06
steve60jetscreamer, any way i can download that nme terratory thing via apt-get02:06
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rachanamadpilot: under snnaptic02:06
rachanamadpilot: what shud i do?02:06
jetscreamersteve60: not afaik, but it's on the idsoftware site02:06
steve60every time i click the link it opens a modules.php page???02:07
Madpilotrachana: right-click on totem-xine, select "Install", and then hit the "Apply" button02:07
jetscreamernot sure.. hang on steve6002:07
rachanamadpilot: ok02:07
Madpilotrachana: it'll automatically remove totem-gstreamer, like I said earlier02:07
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jetscreamersteve60: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/02:08
steve60thx02:08
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syntax_any way i can _completely_ reinstall alsa relatively simply?02:08
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zebraFusioncan someone help me get my apache server to allow inbound connections from outside the network?02:08
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nexti have an nvidia K8ne and ubuntu isn't working with it... i've installed a bunch of stuff for it... can anyone help?02:09
syntax_next, nvidia makes *nix drivers dont they?02:09
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steve60next you enable the driver02:10
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LinuxJoneshey guys can someone help me with jagged looking fonts on a fresh install on my laptop ?02:10
nextno, just installed it, how do i enable?02:10
zebraFusioncan someone help me get my apache server to allow inbound connections from outside the network?02:10
skaymehello, anybody can help me with XMAME?02:10
skaymewhere i should copy the neogeo library in xmame?02:10
syntax_zebraFusion, it shoult allow that by default02:10
_unstablezebraFusion: I bet people in #mame can02:10
syntax_sure your router/firewall isnt stoping them?02:10
skaymethanks02:10
MadpilotLinuxJones: have a look at System menu --> Prefs. --> Font, and play with some of the options there02:10
nickrudLinuxJones, you could mess around with sub-pixel smoothing in, see madpilot02:11
nextsteve? how to i enable, i just downloaded it.02:11
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syntax_any way i can _completely_ reinstall alsa relatively simply?02:11
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LinuxJonesMadpilot: I have been there and checked all of the options, nothing seems to help :(02:11
jetscreamernext when desperate, #nvidia02:11
rachanamadpilot: totem-xine is working02:11
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nextoh, dig it get... didn't know there was a room for that. thanks02:12
MadpilotLinuxJones: if it's a laptop, what about the "LCD/sub-pixel smoothing" option?02:12
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LinuxJonesMadpilot, nickrud, I am wondering if it's something in my xorg config file02:12
Madpilotrachana: good to hear02:12
LinuxJonesMadpilot: that makes things look even worse :(02:12
jetscreamernext they may tell you a way that's different from the ubuntu way02:12
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nickrudLinuxJones, possibly. or maybe you're not at native resolution on the laptop?02:12
BeanAnybody know of a good web dev channel on this server?02:13
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LinuxJonesnickrud: yes I am on 1280 X 800 on a wxga widescreen02:13
skaymeanybody answerme in #mame channel :(02:13
jetscreamerhttp://www.google.com/linux?q=font+deuglification+howto&restrict=linux02:13
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jetscreamernvu02:13
jasonjdpany body know how i would go about making and mounting cd images? im trying to mess with wine and it hangs up when i need to put in a second cd when installing something02:13
jetscreamer!info nvu02:13
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 02:13
bassinboydate %r [07:11:00PM] 02:13
bassinboydate: too many non-option arguments: [07:11:00PM] 02:13
ubotunvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB02:13
MadpilotBean: Screem or bluefish - I think screem might be able to use DW stuff, too02:14
mateonoh! nvu is at 1.0 ?02:14
jetscreamernot sure about the dreamweaver templates though02:14
BeanMadpilot, I have screem setup, and it says it can do DW templates, just can't figure out how exactly02:14
bassinboyany idea how to change the time?02:14
jetscreamerdate02:15
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jetscreamerman date02:15
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bassinboyjetscreamer: I already looked through that, and still can't get the right syntax02:15
LinuxJonesMadpilot, nickrud, my xorg only has a generic monitor selected shouldn't there be some reference to an LCD display or does that matter ?02:15
MadpilotBean: http://www.screem.org/ - there's a help forum there02:16
daveragCan anyone point me to a howto on how to install the fglrx module in the kernel, I can't seem to get it to be the same version as my ATI drivers (8.22.5)02:16
bassinboyjetscreamer: can you give me an example?02:16
_jasonbassinboy: I don't think you need %r02:16
amonkeyi get readonly file system errors on my ipod even though it says rw in mount, what could be wrong?02:16
bassinboy_jason: thanks02:16
jetscreamerbassinboy: no i never could either, i just use the gnome admin thing or the kde one :)02:16
jetscreameror set it in bios02:16
jetscreamersee also ntpdate and ntp02:16
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jetscreamer!ntp02:16
ubotumethinks ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.02:16
jetscreamer!info ntp02:16
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 02:16
ubotuntp: (Network Time Protocol: network utilities), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 249 kB, Installed size: 464 kB02:16
BeanMadpilot, the help form goes to their slashdot message board, searched it already and no results02:17
_jasonbassinboy: nor the brackets02:17
mahanguanybody have any success running Shareaza or any other windows p2p app under wine?>02:17
bassinboyjetscreamer: I don't have a gui02:17
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Beannvu can't do php?02:17
TheCoolI'm working on my new partition scheme for my box. Since I'm going to be adding new drives in the near future I was wondering if it was possible to add drives to a raid0?02:17
Bean(highlighting that is)02:17
_jasonbassinboy: and use the syntax that man date shows02:17
jetscreamerbassinboy: listen to _jason , no idea :)02:17
jetscreameror set it in bios02:17
_jasonyeah or that02:17
jetscreameror just use ntpdate02:17
navaronemahangu have you used phex? gnutella network client  java02:17
daveragI get this error when loading the fglrx module in Xorg.0.log (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.02:18
jetscreamerbittorrent >02:18
jetscreamerimo02:18
mahangunavarone, i don't really like java, but will use it if it comes to a crunch. any other suggestions?02:18
MadpilotBean: try the regular user's forum there - I did read something about DW templates at one point - I've never used DW, though, so I didn't really pay attention02:18
steve60next, you therew02:18
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navaronemahangu...phex is available for windows and linux so you can try on windows natively if you wanna test it02:19
mateonTheCool: do you know about evms?02:19
mahangunavarone, im on ubuntu. but isn't there a non java client?02:19
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steve60next, if you open up a console and type in sudo nvidia-glx-config enable that should turn your drivers on perm restart and you'll see the nvidia logo appear at the startup02:19
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navaronemahangu...I only use gtk-gnutella and phex...phex has better filtering imo though02:20
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navaronemahangu you could hop over to freshmeat or sourceforge and see what's cooking <s>02:20
mahanguthanks navarone02:20
navaroneno prob02:20
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raphael_hi, i wanna know if breezy badger have one way to be server02:21
raphael_?02:21
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Mabus06raphael: when you install it do a server install? Or what do you mean?02:22
Mabus06Set up apache? FTP? Freeciv02:22
gerardow.w.w.libiabucio.hotmail.com02:22
Mabus06Be more specific. ;-)02:22
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Madpilotraphael: you can install Apache & stuff on a desktop isntall, or do a full desktop-less server install02:22
adubpatch: **** strip count l is not a number       <--- does does that error mean im trying to run a patch on orinoco drivers02:22
mateonraphael_: not sure if i understood you correctly, but if what you want is a server install just type server at the boot: prompt when booting of the install cd02:22
raphael_first i have installed, sever, but its just a line comand, so i have formated again and put the graphic mode02:23
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raphael_the server mode, is its just on text mode?02:23
mateonraphael_: what kind of server do you want?02:23
raphael_a web server and dns02:23
Madpilotraphael: yes, it is - servers don't really need GUI02:23
daveragHow do I make the kernel aware of the my new fglrx.ko module?02:24
jetscreamerinstall it properly02:24
raphael_can i do a server on the graphic mode?02:25
jetscreameryes you can02:25
raphael_how?02:25
jetscreamersame as anything02:25
jetscreamerinstall x02:25
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zebraFusionwhat's the default location of the apache2 config file?02:25
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zebraFusionI need to change the port apache uses because my ISP blocks it.02:25
raphael_what should i install?02:26
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Madpilot!tell raphael_ about lamp02:26
zebraFusion!tell zebrafusion about lamp02:26
zebraFusionwhat's the default location of the apache2 config file?02:26
zebraFusionI need to change the port apache uses because my ISP blocks it.02:27
raphael_ok i received here02:27
Madpilotraphael_: the URL the bot just sent you will walk you thru the Apache part of the install02:27
Mordofwhat is btdownloadcurses?02:27
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elkbuntuzebraFusion, dont repeat yourself so quickly, it's the quickest way to get ignored02:27
raphael_ok thanks, i will try now...02:27
raphael_bye, i will sleep after, but thanks02:27
_jasonzebraFusion: probably somewhere in /etc/apache202:27
navaroneMordof, probably a bt client that runs in console curses style02:27
bimberizebraFusion: /etc/apache2/ports.conf02:27
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zebraFusionbimberi, once again... ;)02:28
Mordofnavarone, i see02:28
jrattner1Can i resize a partition in gparted while its mounted?02:28
zebraFusionThanks :] 02:28
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mateonjrattner1: no02:28
navaronejrattner1, not likely02:28
bimberizebraFusion: hehe :)02:28
jrattner1mateon, so how do i resize my / (root) partition?02:28
MacbethHi, any one know why "etc/init.d/gdm start" doesn't work?02:28
mateonjrattner1: well you could boot from some kind of a live cd02:29
jetscreamertry sudo?02:29
bimberizebraFusion: if you decide to put oracle and zope on as well then my run might continue :)02:29
jrattner1mateon, sounds good then thank you02:29
jetscreameror try this: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start02:29
Macbethyeah, left that off, it just cuck back, already running02:29
mateonjrattner1: and resize it from there, after making a backup of course02:29
navaronejrattner1, download system rescue cd and boot with it...it has gparted and qtpart on it so you can use them to resize while your partition is not in use02:29
mateonheh, he left :/02:29
Macbethwhat the ?dm about?02:30
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jetscreamer? is variable02:30
jetscreamerand if you had xdm...02:30
jetscreameror kdm...02:30
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zebraFusionbimberi, I don't think I'm going to license oracle, and I have no idea what zope is :P02:30
jetscreamer!info zope02:30
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ubotuzope: (Open Source Web Application Server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2.6.4-1.6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2554 kB, Installed size: 13848 kB02:30
bimberizebraFusion: kk :)02:30
jetscreamer!info plone02:30
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 02:30
ubotuplone: (content management system based on zope and cmf), section web, is optional. Version: 2.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 40 kB02:30
onewaytolive17can someone please help me with my sound card?02:30
onewaytolive17it isnt working02:30
onewaytolive17and it worked before i installed linux02:31
jetscreamerquadra wtf02:31
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jetscreamerit still works, you just haven't set it up properly yet02:31
navaroneonewaytolive17, type lspci | grep audio  in terminal and see if it gives soundcard name02:31
jetscreamer!smart questions02:32
jetscreamergah02:33
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jetscreamer!tell onewaytolive17 -about smart questions02:33
onewaytolive17navarone,  im gettin nothing02:33
daveragAnyone knows how to make the fglrx stuff work, I just can't seem to get my kernel module to the latest version02:34
navaroneonewaytolive17, what kind of soundcard do you have?02:34
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tritiumdaverag: did you follow the wiki page?02:34
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onewaytolive17navarone,  its a laptop i dont necessarily know the name of the card02:34
onewaytolive17my model is a thinkpad 77002:34
daveragtritium: i just saw that.. brb02:34
tritiumokay, daverag02:34
jetscreamerthere is a thinkpad kernel module, don't know what it does, but it exists02:35
zebraFusionCan anyone recommend any apache adminstrator tools... Like, to see who's connected, who's downloading, ect02:35
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mateonhrm, webmin?02:36
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interferonroughly how many gigabytes should i expect a fresh ubuntu install to use?02:36
tritiumabout 2, interferon02:36
interferontritium, thanks02:37
_jasoninterferon: 2 is what is recommedned on the cd02:37
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edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )02:37
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navaroneonewaytolive17, go to System/Preferences/Sound and see what it says for default soundcard02:38
onewaytolive17it says it says the sollution to my problem is modprobe snd-cs423602:38
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onewaytolive17but every time i do it i get a whole page of errors -_-02:38
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onewaytolive17basically saying it doesnt exist02:38
edoardoyou guys, sometimes i develop gnome and i've just posted an idea i had to more expert gnome developers, but i'd like to get some feedback from people! and suggestions : ) the idea can be summarized like this02:39
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edoardoyou middle click anywhere on the screen. a sphere comes up where you clicked. with an icon, say a xine icon on it. you scroll the sphere with the mouse wheel, up or down, and you know the sphere rotates, showin' other icons as it rotates, it's like a menu bar, with quick links on it. you left click, the sphere disappears. the app starts. a total revolution.02:39
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_jasonedoardo: we like to keep this channel for support, but I'd like to discuss your idea in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to join me02:41
edoardo_jason, sure : )02:41
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navaroneonewaytolive17, how comfortable are you at editing config files?02:41
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onewaytolive17onewaytolive17,  if i can get decent directions i can do it no problem been doing lots of it lately -_-02:42
navaronehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24877.html <-- try this solution and see if it helps02:42
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rachanahow to change password ?02:43
ufopasswd02:43
slide23Has anyone setup lighttp on ubuntu or know of a guide/deb for it?02:43
mateonrachana: type passwd in a terminal02:43
Ainvarfor secure smtp and pop transfers how do I have evolution keep the certificate perm instead of me having to click ok everytime I load up evolution02:43
rachanaok02:43
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bimberirachana: or via the GUI: System -> Preferences -> About me  (top right)02:43
ricsHow can I make glxgears print the FPS information?02:43
zebraFusion!info mrtg02:43
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ubotumrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB02:43
rachanaok02:43
slide23!info lighttpd02:44
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mateonwhat is this quadra thing?02:44
gabachobot I think02:44
daveragI run module-assitant prepare and get Warning, /usr/src/linux-2.6.15 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source!02:45
mateoni can see that, what is it supposed to do?02:45
daveragEven though I copied the .config file from /boot02:45
gabachono idea here, most of em are dumb ass anyway02:45
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mateondaverag: if your'e using the stock kernel consider installing linux-headers02:45
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daveragyeah i got some of those02:46
gabachohehehe02:46
gabachosome of em eh?02:46
daveraghmm but fglrx seems to build anyway02:46
ufodaverag, you should go to kernel source dir and run make oldconfig02:46
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daveragwell i'm plunging, (rebooting) wish me luck02:47
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rgbmanhow does one boot a previous kernel in ubuntu?02:47
WiFiTuxcool, dapper now has gnome 2.1302:47
WiFiTux:)02:47
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slide23is dabber newer/older then breezy?02:48
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navaronergbman, if it shows up in grub menu at boot you can select it and it will load02:48
WiFiTuxslide: stabber?02:48
slideerr dapper lol02:48
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bimberislide: _dapper_ is newer02:48
WiFiTuxslide: bleeding edge02:48
slideah02:48
mateonslide: not stable yet02:48
slidethats a debian name though right?02:48
rgbmanok thank you02:48
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mateonslide: nope02:49
WiFiTuxslide: ?02:49
sliden/m02:49
WiFiTuxslide: debian names are taken from Toy Story movies.02:49
slideheh02:49
gabacholol02:49
WiFiTuxPotatoe, Sarge, Woody02:49
navaroneis that where they got sarge?02:49
sagarphow do i change the main menu icon?02:49
mateonslide: in debian they have sarge, etch and sid currently02:49
WiFiTuxall of them02:49
avarnavarone: yes02:49
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gabachowhat will they do when they run out of names02:50
navaronewell at least it wasn't snow white02:50
gabachogo to toy soldier #102:50
gabachotoy soldier #2?02:50
WiFiTuxgabacho: you can't run out of names02:50
avaror toy story 2?02:50
gabachofrom Toy Story?02:50
nickrudgabacho, finance a new toy story movie?02:50
_jasonsagarp: edit this image file (or replace it): /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png02:50
gabachohehehe02:50
gabachoexactly02:50
gabachoDebian sponsored animation...that would suck02:50
WiFiTux?02:50
slideIf anyone finds me a lighttpd package that works in ubuntu 5.10, ill love you forever02:50
slideheh02:50
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gabachoif their release cycle is applied...a new movie would be produced once every 10 years02:50
avarslide: just grab it from svn02:51
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BeanHas anybody here converted a site made in Dreamweaver w/ templates, into a Screem site? Can't find any info on how to actually make my dreamweaver templates work in it... even though the are supposed to.02:51
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slideavar, but i want it installed via a package, I dont lik "make installs" cluttering up the system heh02:51
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avarslackboy: use /usr/local/02:51
avaror /opt02:51
avaror ~02:51
sagarp_jason, thanks man02:51
nickrudslide, look into checkinstall, it's not perfect, but often works02:52
slidek02:52
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tony__Hi. I'm new. Anyone know how to get drivers for a Voodoo 3 card. I have 640x480 max resolution.02:53
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navaroneBean on the screem features page it says something about page wizard handling things like that...maybe you need to use a wizard and import function...?02:53
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brennertony__: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:54
Beannavarone, thanks, will look02:54
nickrudtony__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d02:54
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tony__I'm reading now. Thanks brenner and nickrud.02:55
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_jasonedoardo: okay, how about this.  a circle02:55
_jasonarg02:55
zebraFusionWhat service is ipp version CUPS 1.102:56
nickrudzebraFusion  the print spooler02:57
mateonzebraFusion: printing02:57
fit4lfeinstalled dapper now xwindows won't start02:57
zebraFusionWhat the hell is that running for, I don't even have a printer.02:58
zebraFusionMust be somethign weird with Dapper :o02:58
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fit4lfehow can I get back xwindows ?02:58
zebraFusionHow can I remove those programs02:58
fit4lfeshouLd I just install breezy again02:59
fit4lfejust the ports to breezy instead of dapper ?02:59
zebraFusionfit4lfe... I'm asuming you've apt-get update, and dist-upgrades a few times?02:59
zebraFusionMy x has failed twice since I moved to Dapper02:59
fit4lfeyeah02:59
nickrudzebraFusion, you can use rcconf to disable cupsys02:59
zebraFusionbut both times I've waited a day or just ran those commands it's worked.03:00
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fit4lfeso how do I fix this03:00
fit4lfereally03:00
fit4lfethat did it03:00
fit4lfejust update and upgrade03:00
hyperactivecrondubuntu really is an ancient african word meaning (a) "i'm sick of compiling gentoo" and (b) i'm sick of gentoo's 'support channel'03:00
zebraFusionFor me :o03:00
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zebraFusionlol03:00
fit4lfehmm03:00
zebraFusionThat's what it means to me :P03:01
fit4lfedo you have a nvidia driver too03:01
fit4lfeor just use vesa03:01
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Madpilothyperactivecrond: there seem to be a number of "translations" of Ubuntu... :P03:01
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onewaytolive17navarone,  hey man it didnt work :( want me to give you the error it gets on startup now?03:02
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snoozixdid anyone install ubuntu as a server?03:02
WiFiTuxMadpilot: can I change my nick to gnome-applets?03:02
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DUMAiSO!nvidia03:02
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:02
WiFiTuxsnoozix: you can.03:02
snoozix!server03:02
ubotuUbuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html03:02
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snoozixWiFiTux: i know.03:03
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navaroneonewaytolive17, sure03:03
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onewaytolive17navarone,  what is that one site i can post it at, its kinda long -_-03:03
hyperactivecrond!msgthebot03:03
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:03
navarone!pastebin03:03
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)03:03
zebraFusionpastebin.03:03
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rachanahow to install the latest firefox ?03:04
hyperactivecrond!firefox03:04
rachanahow to03:04
zebraFusionrachana, sudo apt-get install firefox03:04
hyperactivecrond!tell rachana about firefox1.503:04
snoozixhm03:05
hyperactivecrondeek zebraFusion : old buggy version03:05
snoozixallright, is one using an ftp server on his dialup connection?03:05
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onewaytolive17navarone,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/876603:05
mateonsnoozix: ask your real question03:05
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snoozixmateon: if i set a deny/drop policy i would have to track the ingoing ports that the ftp wants to open dynamically, am i right?03:06
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rachanaskype anyone03:06
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hyperactivecrond!skype03:07
ubotuit has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/03:07
snoozixmateon: is this what conntrack for ftp does completely?03:07
hyperactivecrondfollow that03:07
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navaroneonewaytolive17, you say sound works in windows?03:07
onewaytolive17navarone,  yes it does03:08
mateonsnoozix: hyrm, not sure how ftp works with ports03:08
onewaytolive17navarone,  on linux-laptop.net it says its a problem with my model03:08
mateonsnoozix: I don't think I can help you, sorry03:08
snoozixmateon: i know that it does not work as i need it to when i set my firewall to default drop everything.03:08
snoozixmateon: hmmm thanks a lot anyways03:08
navaroneonewaytolive17, copy the line you added and paste in bin03:09
onewaytolive17ok03:09
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bluefoxicydamnit fuck03:10
bluefoxicydon't tell me.03:10
bluefoxicyJFS is a shitty file system.03:10
_jasonEngla: what is quicksilver?03:10
rachanathat one not working03:10
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rachanai need skype ubuntu03:10
bluefoxicyand now panel won't start, gdm theme is broken.03:11
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bluefoxicyI am betting I have shit in lost+found.03:11
rachanaanyone using skype?03:11
navaronewtf is jfs?03:11
holobytedhey hey, anyone here have Nexuiz installed? can't seem to get sound working03:11
bluefoxicynavarone:  IBM's Journaled File System.03:11
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WiFiTuxjournalist file system03:11
WiFiTuxthat03:11
bluefoxicynavarone:  ubuntu is retarded and so if you use xfs for / with /boot on /, they xfs_freeze /03:11
uforachana, i am... why03:11
bluefoxicynavarone:  and this freezes the ubuntu installer as it attempts to then use the xfs_freeze frozen file system.  Deadlock.03:11
navaronebluefoxicy, ...tough day at the office...? <s>03:12
rachanaufo: how to install03:12
bluefoxicynavarone:  I tried to dodge the bullet and just use jfs because I don't want to use Reiser (ReiserFS 3.6 and Reiser4 are poorly designed) or ext3 (no tailing mechanism, which makes it eat about 10-40% more space)03:12
hyperactivecrondbluefoxicy: dont diss the ubuntu state of mind03:13
bluefoxicynavarone:  but JFS is such horrible crap, it doesn't ever replay the journal on mount.03:13
onewaytolive17navarone,  sbin/modprobe snd-cs423603:13
uforachana, do you have 64bit system?03:13
bluefoxicynavarone:  and the last 5 times I've used it (read: every time), 1-2 system hard locks or power drops has lead to mass data loss.03:13
rachanano03:13
navaronebluefoxicy, sounds like you shouls stick with the devil you know03:13
rachana32 bit03:13
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uforachana, did you download the package from skype site03:14
rachanano03:14
rachanait did not work some say03:14
bluefoxicynow my panel won't start and I can't load an xterm03:14
ufodownload the debian/ubuntu package and install with dpkg -i *package_name*03:14
rachanaufo: where to download03:14
uforachana, www.skype.com03:15
rachanaufo: let me try03:15
navaroneonewaytolive17, did you reboot or restart alsa?03:15
onewaytolive17onewaytolive17,  i  totally rebooted03:15
bimberiufo: have skype fixed the libqt dependency issue?03:15
navaroneonewaytolive17, gnarly03:15
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ufobimberi, yes there is also an package with qt compiled in the binary...03:16
bimberiufo: ah, thanks :)03:16
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navaroneonewaytolive17, go back to that page I gave you and try alternatives that are further down page03:17
onewaytolive17navarone,  ok thanks :)03:17
gurlpleezwill you talk to me?03:17
navaroneonewaytolive17, one suggested changeing the csbit to another number03:17
holobytedso, anyone have Nexuiz installed? (GPL FPS game)03:17
gurlpleezi do03:17
navaronewell i am off for the night...ned my beauty sleep...cya folk take care03:18
gurlpleezit's cool03:18
holobytedhow'd you get sound working?03:18
holobytedor not03:18
WezlFawltythat was a troll03:18
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brennera pretty pathetic one too03:20
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rachanai downloaded skype debian03:20
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rachananow what shud i do?03:21
nexti have set up my ATI but i get a Fatal error:screen not detected, can someone help me get my GUI up?03:21
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rachanaskype debian downloaded. now wat 2 do?03:21
rachanaufo:03:22
brennernext: "i have set up my ATI" ... elaborate please03:22
brennerrachana: dpkg -i <package>  probably03:22
rachanaok03:22
=== brenner has never used skype though
nextdownloaded the drivers... went threw the fglrxconfig file set it up03:22
uforachana, go to console and type dpkg -i *packagename*03:22
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Madpilotnext: have you read the wiki's ATI driver page?03:23
brennernext: which drivers?  how'd you install them?03:23
Madpilot!ati03:24
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358903:24
nextapt-get ATI-driver-fglrx03:24
GTXhttp://www.probnc.org/admins/swinder.jpg03:24
GTXul03:24
GTXlol03:25
GTXthat that03:25
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rachanaufo: its showing error03:25
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IdleOnewhats the error03:25
rachanaufo: libqt3c102-mt is missing it seems03:25
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syntax_any way i can _completely_ reinstall alsa relatively simply?03:26
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brennerGTX: heh, is that you?03:26
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rachanaubotu skype03:27
ubotumethinks skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/03:27
uforachana, ok... try to download the tar package where the qt is compiled in binary... not an deb03:27
rachanaufo: which one to download ?03:27
brennerwhy not just use Seveas' deb?03:27
rachanaufo: skype for fedora?03:27
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uforachana, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static03:27
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GTXbrenner na03:28
GTXwww.probnc.co.uk/staff.html03:28
GTXim the one at the top03:28
uforachana, after you untar that in the directory should be an skype binary03:28
GTXwww.probnc.org/staff.html03:28
GTX.org sorry03:28
uforachana, that works for me03:29
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zebraFusionHow can I remove ipp version CUPS 1.103:29
concept10Anyone here familar with Vmware03:29
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rachanaufo: its downloading . after that wat shud i do03:30
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ufoyou should extract the package...03:33
zebraFusionHow can I remove ipp version CUPS 1.103:33
ufoyou are using gnome? right click on package and extract it to your location...03:34
uforachana, did you exract the package?03:35
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uforachana, it might take few seconds before starts...03:36
rachanaufo: i extracted03:37
rachanaufo: now wat 2 do03:37
ricsautomatix ROCKZZZZZ03:37
uforachana, now start the skype binary from console, its in the directory you extracted03:37
rachanaufo: shall i type skype in shell prompt03:38
uforachana, yes cd into directory and type ./skype03:38
uforachana, did it work?03:39
rachana libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared03:40
rachanaufo:  libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared03:40
uforachana, ok... thats odd...03:40
jasonjdphow do you run a shell script?03:41
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jasonjdpwhats the command?03:41
uforachana, you need the qt library to gnome...03:41
rachanaufo: how to get it03:42
_jasonjasonjdp: sh /path/to/shellscript, or make it executable and just give the path to the script, like ./shellscript for example03:42
jasonjdpthnx jason!03:42
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rachanaskype installed but not running03:43
ufoim currently in gentoo, but you could look the qt-libs and libqt-mt in synaptic03:43
uforachana, or with apt-get03:43
rachanaapt-get --- what shud i type after that03:44
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uforachana, apt-cache search libqt-mt03:44
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uforachana, and then apt-get install *package*03:45
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bimberirachana: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt03:45
bimberi(the Seveas package would have been much simpler)03:45
ufobimberi, ok... is the skype in seveas?03:46
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bimberi!skype03:46
ubotusomebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/03:46
rachanaok i installed libqt-mt03:47
bimberirachana: although you're probably pretty close with the path you're on anyway03:47
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rachananow skype is uninstalled automatically. dono why03:48
bimberiufo: yes, he repackaged to fix that dependency issue03:48
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ufobimberi, ok... thx03:48
rachananow wat am ii to do03:49
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ufodid you try the apt-get install libqt3-mt03:49
rachanayes03:49
rachanai installed03:49
uforachana, try the skype again03:49
rachanaok03:49
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uforachana, did it work?03:51
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bimberiufo: i guess (s)he's on the phone :P03:52
__mikemI just installed xfce and I kind of like it03:53
rachananow wat shud i do03:53
ufobimberi, :)03:53
rachanai again unarchived the files03:53
uforachana, why did you remove the old ones?03:54
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rachanai diddnt03:54
rachanait uninstled automatic03:54
uforachana, automatic...03:54
rachanaye03:54
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rachanayes03:55
uforachana, did you try to start the skype?03:55
bassinboyanyone know webmin? can't login, I have edited the users file and everything03:55
rachanai typed skype in shell prompt03:55
ufobassinboy, do you use the sudo in your ubuntu?03:56
rachanait showed no such file or directory03:56
bassinboyufo: yes03:56
ufobassinboy, it needs the root password, i think03:56
bassinboyI've been trying it03:56
ufoactivating the root passwd with sudo passwd03:57
bassinboy?03:57
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rachanaskype in linux is horrible03:57
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uforachana, but it works.... it the older one... and the fonts are ugly...03:58
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_6ix_Thanks for your guys' help last night, I'm online with Ubuntu now03:58
bassinboyufo: man, I can't get it to login at all03:58
bassinboy/etc/webmin/miniserv.users right?03:58
rachanahope google brings gtalk to linux. shud be simple03:58
IdleOne!openssh03:58
ubotufrom memory, openssh is server and client setup at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto03:58
_6ix_New question now:  I'm trying to set up xserver, and the terminal asks me for a password, but won't let me type it in03:59
bassinboyuser:password ?03:59
_6ix_I can hit enter, and it denies my password.  But I can't type anything in03:59
ufobassinboy, does it ask the password03:59
rachanaskype + linux = confusion03:59
uforachana, ye03:59
rachanaanyone know suse linux?03:59
uforachana, yes04:00
_6ix_Anyone know why it won't let me put in my password/how i can fix it?04:00
rachanais it that easy?04:00
rachanasome frens say so04:00
zebraFusion Question04:00
BeanIs there an equivilant of wine but for windows (so you can run linux apps under windows)04:00
zebraFusionIf I donwload a video file to my Linux partition04:00
uforachana, yes...04:00
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zebraFusioncan I put it into my window partition (hda1)04:00
zebraFusionwindows*04:00
rachanahowcome?04:00
bassinboyufo: on webmin? yes04:00
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AciDhey04:00
_6ix_I'm really trying to use the Wiki as much as I can, but it doesn't address some quesionts04:01
ufomaybe you dont have the root password...04:01
_6ix_questions, even04:01
_jasonzebraFusion: what filesystem is the windows partition?04:01
zebraFusionNTFS04:01
AciDwhat are you supposed to put in your source.list to have access to xorg 7.0.0-0ubuntu14 ?04:01
_jasonubotu: tell zebraFusion about explore2fs04:01
PrimoTurboDoes anyone know how I can enable dapper universe or whatever, I want access to some of the locked beta software.04:01
rachanaok guys im leaving04:01
_jasonzebraFusion: yes, but you need to be in windows (see ubotu's link)04:01
PrimoTurboI'm using dapper btw04:01
_6ix_sudo dpkg-xconfigure xserver-xorg04:01
rachanaskype down down04:01
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_6ix_Then it asks for my pass, but won't let me type04:02
pianoboy3333I'm bored.....04:02
Madpilot_6ix_: when you're using the terminal, it doesn't echo your pw as you type, but it is going in04:02
Madpilot_6ix_: it doesn't even use a string of ****** or anything - that's normal04:02
zebraFusion_jason, so all I do is follow that link in Windows and I can transfer files from Linux to Windows?04:02
rachanagood by ufo04:02
uforachana, by04:02
_6ix_Madpilot, you're a genius!!!04:03
_6ix_Thank you SOO much!04:03
Madpilot!tell _6ix_ about sudo04:03
_6ix_I feel kinda stupid now04:03
_6ix_Alright, sorry to ask a stupid question04:03
Madpilot_6ix_: there's a note near the top of the page the bot just sent you mentioning this non-typing04:03
PrimoTurboGuys how do I access the rest of dappers repos?04:03
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_jasonzebraFusion: yeah, the second link is easier.  You just run a program and it will let you read and copy stuff from linux to windows04:04
virogenesishi MacSlow  just the person i wanted to speak to04:04
ufothe sudo thing is stupid i think it makes things difficult, like the tab key use and i think the bassinboy s   problem is that too04:04
zebraFusionPerfect/04:04
PrimoTurboHow can I add multiverse repository in Dapper?04:04
AciDhum04:05
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_jasonubotu: tell bassinboy about webmin04:05
bassinboyufo: Arg, stupid ubuntu, :P04:05
pianoboy3333I'm bored....... Anyone know any good games/things to do...?04:05
_jasonPrimoTurbo: same way as in breezy04:05
MadpilotPrimoTurbo: just edit your multiverse line - put dapper whereever it says breezy now04:05
PrimoTurboRemind me I followed a guide last time04:05
_jasonubotu: tell PrimoTurbo about repositories04:05
pianoboy3333Has anyone gotten dansguardian to work with webmin here?04:05
bassinboythanks _jason04:05
PrimoTurboalright thnx04:05
MacSlowvirogenesis, ehm... yes?04:06
PrimoTurboDapper is so damn fast compared to the last version04:06
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wahyuhi all, i have download realplayer file (RealPlayer10GOLD.bin) but i dont know how to install in ubuntu 5.10, pls advise..04:06
PrimoTurbotrying to get XGL now, just insatlled fglrx driver for my ATI card04:06
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MacSlowre04:07
MacSlowups...04:07
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interferonhow do i go about resizing an ntfs partition?04:07
ufoPrimoTurbo, same thing here but on gentoo...04:07
interferonso i can install ubuntu04:07
pianoboy3333Has anyone gotten dansguardian to work with webmin here?04:07
MacSlowdamn... Ctrl-W and Ctrl-Q are so close to one another :)04:07
pianoboy3333I'm bored....... Anyone know any good games/things to do...?04:07
MacSlowvirogenesis, so once again... what's up?04:07
virogenesishi i'm having probs running your clock on dapper04:07
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virogenesisthis is the error i seem to be getting cairo-clock: symbol lookup error: cairo-clock: undefined symbol: rsvg_cairo_render04:08
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MacSlowvirogenesis, hm... before going any further... jsut wait a few days (2-3) and you can geta a vanilla dapper .deb of cairo-clock 0.3.104:08
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MacSlowvirogenesis, that's a librsvg-related issue. all taken care of in 0.3.104:09
bimberiinterferon: the installer can do it (but back up first) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning04:09
virogenesisok then thanks04:09
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virogenesisMacSlow,  nice work by the looks of things04:09
AciD!sid04:10
ubotuAciD: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:10
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MacSlowvirogenesis, I'm just a bit "side-tracked" by compiz atm :)04:10
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virogenesisi understand i got compiz installed myself its very impressive04:11
nextis there a way to use linux26 when booting from the 5.04 cd?04:11
wahyuhello, somebody help me please to install realplayer !!!04:11
nextwah, apt-get install real not work?04:12
MacSlowvirogenesis, http://macslow.thepimp.net/?p=2504:12
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catskulanyone know where I can find a guide to getting xgl running using the ubuntu packages (i.e. not compiling )04:12
nextwah, i think it might be helix....04:12
bassinboyubotu: tell bassinboy about enabling root password04:12
naliothbassinboy: enabling root breaks things04:12
naliothubotu: tell bassinboy about root04:12
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next!root04:13
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.04:13
ufoubuntu sudo shit :)04:13
rymanhow do I copy files into /usr/share/pixmaps/ ?04:13
nextso anyone? linux2.6? can i do that?04:13
wahyunext, my realplayer file (RealPlayer10GOLD.bin) but i dont know the next step...04:14
catskulryman, what would keep you from doing so ?04:14
ufosudo passwd and give first your password and then two times new root password04:14
catskul!xgl04:14
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/04:14
rymanI don't see pixmaps folder in share directory04:14
rymancatskul, I'm new to linux. I'm trying to locate pixmaps folder04:14
catskulryman, i think its someting like /usr/share/pixmaps04:14
ufoafter that you could enable the allow rootlogin in x04:14
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virogenesislooks good MacSlow good idea  takes away the blandness of it all04:15
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rymancatskul, it said that i don't have permission to move files from / to /usr/share/pixmaps04:15
nexttry trying this into the terminal wah "chmod a+x Realplayer10GOLD.bin"04:15
MacSlowvirogenesis, hopefully with shading of the cube/hexagon in the end too04:15
catskulryman, are you familiar with using sudo ?04:15
nextfollow with "./RealPlater10gold.bin"04:16
catskulryman, use  "sudo cp ...."04:16
rymancatskul, sorry no. I'm totally new to linux04:16
nextmake sure to spell correct and use caps04:16
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catskulryman, have you used the terminal before ?04:16
rymanCan you give me an example ? the file i'm trying to move is icon.ico04:16
rymancatskul, yes04:17
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catskulso in the terminal04:17
wahyunext, i have try, but the reason is   ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin04:17
wahyu./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:17
rymansudo cp icon.ico /user/share/pixmaps04:17
ryman?04:17
catskulyep04:17
lon613anyone have an idea how to format a USB external hard drive? i would like to but can't figure it out. i am normally a RH user.04:17
rymancatskul, thanks04:17
catskulnp04:17
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RememberPOLHow would one boot the Ubuntu LiveCD with hotplug disabled?04:18
rymancatskul, opps it doesn't work. I think I need the path to desktop04:18
RememberPOLdoes anybody know the boot param?04:18
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catskulyeah... for that to work you would have had to have been in the same directory as the file at the time04:19
Arsenalhello anybody04:19
Arsenalanybody out there04:19
bassinboyis there a search option on apt-get? I need to search for webmin modules, it's weird that it installs with none04:19
Arsenalwhats that mean04:19
rymanhow do I change to desktop dir? I'm sorry I will look up for unix commands on google later04:20
ufobassinboy, did the root password help?04:20
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RememberPOLbassinboy: try "apt-cache search <name>"04:20
catskulryman, cd ~/Desktop04:20
Madpilotryman: "cd Desktop"04:20
ArsenalHelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo04:20
bassinboyufo: hm? I got it now, Doh, I can't install modules, the webmin version is to old04:20
Madpilot!tell ryman about cli04:20
Arsenalsomeone talk to me04:20
catskulArsenal, dont just yell04:20
rymanMadpilot, catskul : thanks04:20
RememberPOLHi Arsenal.04:20
Arsenalhello04:21
RememberPOLHow's it going?04:21
ryman!tell ryman about customize04:21
catskulArsenal, if you have a question go ahead and ask04:21
ufobassinboy, you can update the webmin with webmin04:21
Arsenalare you a boy or girl04:21
ufobassinboy, and get all modules from webmin too04:21
tritiumArsenal: this channel is for ubuntu support04:21
lon613any thoughts on the external hard drive issue?04:21
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Arsenaldo any of you like soccer04:22
catskulArsenal, join #asl04:22
lon613external USB hard drive. currently NTSF, would like it to be FAT32 or whatever else.04:22
bassinboyufo: is there anyway to apt-get install webmin-*04:22
Arsenalwheres that04:22
tritiumyes, bassinboy.  "apt-cache search webmin" reveals that there are tons of webmin packages available04:22
ufobassinboy, yes it should be... try apt-cache search webmin04:22
tritium(not that I'd recommend it, but it's there)04:23
bassinboytritium, ufo, I saw them all, I want to install them all, and04:23
catskulArsenal, do you have a ubuntu question ?04:23
Arsenaldo any of you have a psp04:24
ufobassinboy, in what format is the webin module name?04:24
ufobassinboy, im in gentoo so cant use the apt to look04:24
tritiumbassinboy: if you want to install it, go ahead04:24
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bassinboyufo: Lucky, I use gentoo too, but this guy wants me to setup his server, and he has ubuntu lol04:25
Arsenalare there any people out thre04:25
tritiumArsenal: please stay on topic04:25
Arsenalsorry04:25
ufobassinboy, you could try apt-get install webmin*04:25
bassinboyufo: when I try to update it, it says it needs module proc ( the one that kills processes) and when I try to install proc, webmin is to old for it lol04:25
RememberPOLanybudy?04:25
RememberPOL*anybody04:25
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RememberPOLknow how to disable hotplug subsystem?04:25
rhythminmindanyone using ubuntu as a samba server for over 15 people?   Also anyone running it with PROFTPD04:25
MadpilotArsenal: this is a tech support channel - general chat can go on #ubuntu-offtopic if you want...04:26
lon613anyone have an idea about the external hard drive?04:26
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ufobassinboy, try apt-get update && upgrade04:26
pianoboy3333I'm bored....... Anyone know any good games/things to do...?04:26
bassinboyI have all the latest everything04:26
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bassinboyhehe04:27
mtghtritium: Thank you04:27
Madpilot"upshut"? :P04:27
pianoboy3333yea really....04:27
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rhythminmindany ideas why proftpd would timeout on large uploads..04:27
Madpilotpianoboy3333: kill people in Enemy Territory04:27
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lysisanybody here ever use the memory tester in grub boot loader?04:27
bassinboyrhythminmind: got SBC? lol04:28
tritiummtgh: :)04:28
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pianoboy3333i'll go america's army tho04:28
rhythminmind=)04:28
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bi2hi all04:28
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bi2how can i start ssh service in CLI?04:28
Madpilotlysis: memtest86+ or whatever it's called? I have used it, not recently though04:28
bassinboyufo: Ok, got It, I needed webmin-core04:28
bassinboysilly apt-get :P04:29
tritiumbi2: sudo apt-get install ssh04:29
lysisMadpilot: it actually work?04:29
tritiumbi2: if it's already installed, then it should be running (if not, "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start")04:29
rhythminmindok no server guys here........  anyone get conky not to blink on updates?04:30
bassinboyufo: this guy actually asked me if something was on gentoo, and I told him gentoo has the largest collection of software known by man availible to it in a single command :P04:30
bi2tritium, already installed but im having error "privilege separation user"04:30
Xappei've manage to install debian sarge on a comp. that ubuntu wouldn't install...is it possible to upgrade sarge to breezy?04:30
tritiumbassinboy: debian has a larger package selection, actually04:30
Madpilotlysis: seems to04:31
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tritiumbi2: when do you get that error?04:31
lysisfair enough Madpilot04:31
bassinboytritium: *shrugs*, over 10,000? heh04:31
Madpilotlysis: using it, I discovered that the problem wasn't my OS or RAM but my entire motherboard - which I was able to RMA, happily...04:31
bassinboywith 23,000 different ebuilds04:31
lysisMadpilot: but the memtest program told you that?04:32
ufobassinboy, this is my first time in gentoo and so far it looks nice but its slow to update things and install new software... the debian is good in server, if you dont need the desktop and things like that04:32
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tritiumbassinboy: debian has _far_ more than 20k04:32
l_rhello04:32
tritium10k that is04:32
rhythminmindanyone know a good drive clone system?04:32
rhythminmindwith compression04:32
l_ris it possible to install ubuntu-livecd onto the hardisk?04:32
lysisi'm having stability issues.  i thought it was my video card (it was freaking out) and replacing that didn't work.04:32
bi2tritium, /etc# /etc/init.d/ssh start04:33
bi2 * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server... Privilege separation user sshd does not exist04:33
l_r(from within the livecd itself)04:33
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bassinboytritium: that amazes me04:33
tritiumbassinboy: cool ;)04:33
typewritertrying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a system that would install fine if not for my ide pci controller card that i added04:33
JackSprathey guys.. total noob here, but competent.. installed ubuntu on my laptop and all works except sound.. where/how do I start to correct this?04:34
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rhythminmindJackSprat are you in gnome?04:34
tritiumbi2: can you verify that there's no sshd user on your system?  How did you install ssh?04:34
Madpilotlysis: well, it said there was no problem with my actual RAM, so that narrowed it down to the mobo...04:34
JackSpratrhythminmind: yes04:35
Madpilotlysis: because I had a brand-new harddrive, new install of Ubuntu, and the machine was still freezing randomly...04:35
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bi2tritium, apt-get04:35
tritiumbi2: ok, please verify existence of sshd user04:35
rhythminmindi'm not in gnome at the moment.. but theres a menu to selet the multimedia system or envierment.. forgot how its worded04:36
lysisMadpilot: i'm starting to suspect the same problem here. =/04:36
rhythminmindit has a test button04:36
rhythminmindpick ASLA as well04:37
JackSpratmultimedia system selector?04:37
rhythminmindyeah04:37
rhythminmindpink ALSA for both in/out04:37
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JackSpratwhen i pick it and test ot says: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'04:37
onewaytolive17omfg04:37
rhythminmindpick04:37
onewaytolive17i finally fixed it!!!04:37
onewaytolive17:D04:37
Madpilotlysis: new stuff, or older equipment? (ie can you return the stuff?)04:38
onewaytolive17my sound for my thinkpad i finally fixed it after weeks of torment -_-04:38
rhythminmindwhat soundcard do you have?04:38
lysisMadpilot: a year and a month old.04:38
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bi2tritium, "no hostkeys available" what is that mean?04:38
onewaytolive17crimsun, you there?04:39
crimsunonewaytolive17: hi04:39
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houseoftaintedcrimsun,  thanks for helping me the other day with my thinkpad soundcard :)04:40
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tritiumbi2: you never answered about the sshd user04:40
houseoftaintedcrimsun,  what you told me about the modprobe snd-cs4232 did work after i did some tweaking with the config files :)04:40
pianoboy3333Has anyone found away to play m4p's on ubuntu? I tried downloading hymn, but it seems that I need FairKeys which I haven't found for linux.04:40
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pianoboy3333Not FairKeys to install, I have hymn installed.04:41
rhythminmindJackSprat.. do this install VLC player.. and set it to use ALSA and see if sound works.. gnome as some sound issues04:41
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majdhey04:41
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majdis there a way to just remove a hyperlink from an OppenOffice.org Writer file?04:41
houseoftaintedcrimsun,  thanks for helping me i deeply appreciate it :)04:41
Madpilotlysis: you're probably out of luck for RMA'ing it, then...04:41
majdcause when i paste a URL...it makes it a link, can't figure out how to..."unlink" it04:41
crimsunhouseoftainted: np04:41
pianoboy3333majd: I think if you right click it there is an option04:42
crimsunhouseoftainted: you may wish to write a page on the wiki for it04:42
Madpilotmajd: right click on the link04:42
houseoftaintedcrimsun,  ok :)04:42
houseoftaintedcrimsun,  know the link?04:42
majdMadpilot, pianoboy3333, i tried that....04:42
crimsunhouseoftainted: wiki.ubuntu.com04:42
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majdthere's a "default formatting" but that removes ALL formatting which is a big pain the butt04:42
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pianoboy3333Has anyone found away to play m4p's on ubuntu? I tried downloading hymn, but it seems that I need FairKeys which I haven't found for linux. Not FairKeys to install, I have hymn installed.04:43
crimsunpianoboy3333: I use jHymn to unfetter the songs that I purchase from iTMS.04:44
crimsunpianoboy3333: then I use gstreamer0.8-faad to play them through quod libet04:45
pianoboy3333crimsun: ok, I just downloaded the jhymn source, what do I do next?04:45
JackSpratdoh04:45
crimsunpianoboy3333: you don't need the source, get the java [binary]  package04:45
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pianoboy3333crimsun: frm where?04:45
crimsunpianoboy3333: from the jHymn Web site04:46
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crimsunpianoboy3333: I'm happy to continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic if you need04:46
lon613mp4 support exists for xmms04:46
pianoboy3333ok04:46
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JackSprathey guys.. total noob here, but competent.. installed ubuntu on my laptop and all works except sound.. how would I go about correcting this?04:47
lon613you have to download the stuff for it.04:47
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crimsunJackSprat: what sound chipset?04:47
lon613the sound issue totally depends on your laptop. you'll have to look up the sound device chipset.04:47
lon613jinx you owe me a coke.04:47
JackSpratAnalog Devices, Inc. AD1981B Software Sound, AC'97 Rev2.204:48
JackSpratCompatible04:48
Fitzsimmonsshould work04:48
JackSpratits a toshiba satellite.. user manual says the above04:48
catskulanyone know what happened to the mesa package ?04:48
Fitzsimmonsnot well, but it should work04:48
lon613hmmm. 5.10 or 5.04?04:48
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JackSprat5.1004:49
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lon613how new is the satellite?04:49
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JackSpratfew months04:49
crimsunJackSprat: works here:04:49
crimsuncrimsun@garnish:~$ tail -1 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat04:49
crimsun0: Analog Devices AD1981B04:49
BigDaddyI just want to come in here and brag for a minute04:50
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JackSpratyes thats what it says crimsun04:50
BigDaddyI FINALLY got my internet connection working on boot everytime, I have my vidoe driver working correctly, I have all of my drives mounted and I have my mp3's playing04:50
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catskul!mesa04:51
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, catskul04:51
BigDaddyAnd it is because of all of the help I have received in here04:51
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tritiumnice work, BigDaddy :)04:51
BigDaddyYeah, I feel like a big boy now04:51
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lon613is there no sound what-so-ever?04:51
JackSpratnope04:51
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crimsunJackSprat: so you need to pastebin the following for me: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer04:52
BigDaddynow for a totally trivial question. In the theme manager or theme details, is there a way to alter the colors of the window borders or the buttons?04:52
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Fubis there a way to prevent windows in gnome raising when you click on them, so they'll only raise if you click the titlebar?04:52
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lon613have you gone into System->Multimedia System Selector and fiddled with the default Sink and Default Source?04:53
BigDaddyoh - just in case anyone was wondering...Amarok is a badass app04:53
sithican somebody help me please04:53
BigDaddywassup sithi04:53
BigDaddyI don't know much, but I'll spill what I know04:54
MadpilotFub: have a look in System menu --> Prefs --> Windows - if there is an option like that, it will probably be there...04:54
JackSprat0: Analog Devices AD1981B04:54
JackSpratroot@ubuntu:/cdrom# cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer04:54
JackSprat0 [ICH6           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH604:54
JackSprat                     Intel ICH6 with AD1981B at 0xd0180000, irq 1004:54
JackSpratSimple mixer control 'Master',004:54
JackSprat  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch04:54
JackSprat  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right04:54
sithii am using ubuntu 5.10 with ltsp, thin client (diskless) is booted with vmlinuz-2.6.9-ltsp-304:54
eugmanHey is there a good visual way to monitor how much bandwidth each process uses up?04:54
FubMadpilot, it isn't04:54
alex2456for some reason my terminal doesent color code things anymore, and even when i open up xterm it doesent, anyone know how to fix this?04:54
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sithialso i am assigning static ip 192.168.0.28 to the thin client04:55
FubI thought there would possibly be some text file somewhere I could edit04:55
IdleOnedont think jack knows about pastebin04:55
JackSpratthat was sooo oon accident04:55
MadpilotFub: yeah, I just checked - have a look thru gconf04:55
sithii can ping that ip also04:55
lon613JackSprat: my last post was for you if you saw it.04:55
MadpilotFub: Applications -> System Tools -> Config. Editor.04:55
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IdleOneJackSprat: use patesbin.ubuntu-nl.org04:55
JackSpratheh.. ok04:55
sithibut for ifconfig in the thin client, it is giving me the server 's ip address04:55
FubMadpilot, thanks, I need to install it first:) But thanks for the help04:56
lon613roll on duders.04:56
sithiwhat went wrong04:56
Fubought to be standard when you install ubuntu really04:56
AdmiralCrunchhey, hey. I basically just majorly fucked my system files with a bad distro-upgrade. Is there a way I can revert back to old system files, while still keeping everything in my home dirs?04:56
MadpilotFub: the config editor is standard, isn't it?04:56
BigDaddyHonestly sithi, that is over my head04:56
Fubwell, it's not installed on my system04:57
JackSpratcrimsun: I pasted it in pastebin under JackSprat04:57
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MadpilotFub: huh, I must have istalled it then...04:57
sithiok, thanks04:57
FubMadpilot, I'm apt-get'ing it now04:57
IdleOneJackSprat:  paste the link in here04:57
JackSprathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/876904:57
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MadpilotFub: yeah, gconf is optional - I'd forgotten04:57
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majdhow can i access my linux partition throught windows xp?04:58
_jasonubotu: tell majd about explore2fs04:58
BigDaddyexplore2fs04:58
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BigDaddycrap04:58
BigDaddybeat me to it04:58
rachanaubotu opera04:58
ubotuopera is, like, totally, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser04:58
Fubmajd if it's ext2 or ext3 try search for ext2 ifs on google04:58
MadpilotFub: actually, get gconf2 & gconf-editor04:58
IdleOneok how do i setup a mail server?04:58
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OmegaAlphareal quick... whats a good program like wine besides wine of course?04:59
AdmiralCrunchso bascially simplifing my question, is there a way to do a system files only installation of ubuntu that wont destroy my home folder, as I already have a correctly made ext3 partition04:59
sebastianAdmiralCrunch, if you have the /home in a different partition then it is very simple04:59
majdaha...found it: Fub, _jason : http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html04:59
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majdi knew i read something about it04:59
AdmiralCrunchsebastian: its on the same drive :(04:59
Fubthe advantage of ext2 ifs is that unlike explorer2fs it integrates into windows explorer04:59
AdmiralCrunchsebastian: well...rather partition04:59
punkrockguy318hey04:59
punkrockguy318is anyone else getting segfaults with the new Xgl in dapper?05:00
majdFub, oh, so that won't work with ext3?05:00
MordofAdmiralCrunch, next time put it in a seperate partition05:00
IdleOne!mailserver05:00
ubotuIdleOne: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:00
BigDaddyOmegaAlpha - there is Cedega05:00
Hohlraumhey guys why do the nvidia packages insist on installing the 386 kernel and restricted modules?  the nvidia packages function with the 686 versions dont they?05:00
BigDaddyI think that is the name of it05:00
OmegaAlphaBigDaddy, thanks i was wondering if anyone was going to respond05:00
Fubmajd, it will, but the journal part is not supported (it isn't in explorer2fs as far as I know)05:00
Mordofi cant figure out how to use cedega05:00
BigDaddya lot of conversations going on at once05:00
BigDaddyCedega is a commercial app if I am correct05:01
MadpilotBigDaddy: there always are, here...05:01
Mordofyup it is05:01
crimsunJackSprat: I'll get to it in a sec05:01
JackSpratcool05:01
punkrockguy318Hohlraum: in what version?05:01
BigDaddyMadPilot - thats right. A lot of help is needed05:01
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JackSpratbleh. Im not used to this irc chatter yet either05:01
AdmiralCrunchMordof: Will do, but is there any way I can install, sans formatting, just by wiping my everything other than the home dir. Or do I just have to backup all that junk and make a fresh one05:01
sebastianAdmiralCrunch, You need to backup the folder "/home" located in the disk filesystem05:01
Hohlraumprg318: Dapper05:01
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majdAlright, thanks a lot _jason and Fub05:02
MordofAdmiralCrunch, backup, use a partition manager or something, gparted i think... make another partition and move your /home there05:02
rachanaubotu libqt3-mt05:02
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rachana05:02
punkrockguy318Hohlraum: what kernel?05:02
rachanaanyone libq05:02
rachanalibqt3-mt05:02
BigDaddySo is it possible to change the colors of buttons and windows like Windows does for the Classic Style?05:02
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ubuntu__ok so05:02
punkrockguy318BigDaddy: yeah check out system -> prefs -> theme05:02
Hohlraumpunkrockguy318: newest as of last night. -16 i think?05:02
ubuntu__grub doesn't want to start05:02
ubuntu__in dapper05:02
ubuntu__known problem?05:03
ubuntu__like I can't boot >:|05:03
ubuntu__and lilo doesn't think it will fit on the partition or in the MBR and won't install.05:03
Mordofpunkrockguy318, he means like windows for classic style05:03
punkrockguy318Hohlraum: oh.. usually you've got a wait a bit for the restricted modules to be packaged for 68605:03
BigDaddyThat is where I am. I can choose titles and buttons, but I cannot choose my own colors05:03
sebastianAdmiralCrunch: Then re-install Ubuntu.05:03
AdmiralCrunchMordof: k, I am gonna try some stuff out for this, I will get back to you with anymore problems, thanks Mordof and sebastian05:03
MordofBigDaddy, its not in the themes menu05:03
BigDaddyWell, not that I can see05:03
Hohlraumpunkrockguy318: they are there and available05:03
BigDaddyMordof - where do I need to go then?05:03
punkrockguy318Hohlraum: are you sure?  are you sure it's not a dummy?05:04
MordofBigDaddy, i dont know.. try art.gnome.org for a whole bunch of themes, there may be one similar to what you want made already.. if not, you will have to make your own theme05:04
punkrockguy318Hohlraum: try using -1405:04
BigDaddyOK, so you can't do the color schemes. I was hoping for something like a 3DCC for Linux05:04
Hohlraumi'll double check.. its making my system lock up when I try to do anything in opengl05:04
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sebastianAdmiralCrunch: Finally copy "/home" back and the system will function as new, but with all the configuration and documents you used to have.05:05
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BigDaddyAnyone here know what I am talking about with 3DCC?05:05
MordofBigDaddy, 3DCC?05:05
crimsunJackSprat: what machine is that?05:05
punkrockguy318BigDaddy: 3dcc?05:05
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BigDaddyMordof - you are not a Window user at all, is that right?05:05
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JackSpratcrimsun: toshiba satellite m45-S26505:05
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BigDaddyhttp://pixelarmy.org/q/index.php?poo=3dcc.php05:06
MordofBigDaddy, yes i am actually05:06
MordofBigDaddy, i deleted windows off my computer last week05:06
MordofBigDaddy, the rest of the computers in my house use windows XP though05:06
AdmiralCrunchsebastian: alright, this is what I plan on doing. I have 2x 250GB drives, one has Ubuntu on it, the other is storage. Anyway, I am gonna move the small amount of files the storage drive has (30GB) to my system drive, I will then format the storage drive, and install Ubuntu on it. Then I will copy all my files over from the old system drive, and format the old one.... simply to save time on copying directories... and formatting NTFS crap05:06
BigDaddyThere is some example of it. It is just a way to color the "Classic" Windows style. I don't really use flashy title bars05:06
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JackSpratcrimsun: http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modelLanding.jsp?ProductMenu_0=Portables&ProductMenu_1=Satellite&ProductMenu_2=1042090&x=39&y=7&BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%400103338679.1140147799%40%40%40%40&BV_EngineID=ccchaddgmmlimdecgfkceghdgngdgmn.0&moid=1042090&smoid=true&ct=MH&ListType=Model05:06
BigDaddybut I like my color schemes05:06
nomad111!wma05:07
uboturestricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:07
AdmiralCrunchbtw, anybody running Dapper with good stability here?05:07
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MordofBigDaddy, that is not in any way the windows classic style05:07
MordofBigDaddy, that is a windows xp theme designed to look simplistic05:07
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punkrockguy318BigDaddy: is that 3ddc a windows app?05:07
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ubuntu__hello there05:07
Mordofpunkrockguy318, yes it is05:07
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Mordofdont bother trying to wine it or use cedega with it either, it wont work05:08
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MadpilotBigDaddy: http://art.gnome.org/ has some theme creation tutorials somewhere, you might want too look into those05:08
Madpilot!tell BigDaddy about themes05:08
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BigDaddypunkrockguy318 - 3DCC is a Windows only app yes05:09
MadpilotBigDaddy: or have a look at the websites the bot just sent, there are hundreds of themes already made05:09
crimsunAdmiralCrunch: works great here (ThinkPad X41-2527)05:09
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ivonchiholas05:09
AdmiralCrunchcrimsun: did you do a fresh install?05:09
AdmiralCrunchhey05:09
MordofBigDaddy, that 3DCC thing is crap, half those themes arent designed properly to be considered useful05:10
MordofBigDaddy, there are many flaws there... not good design05:10
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crimsunAdmiralCrunch: the last fresh install I did was of Dapper Flight 205:10
BigDaddylol, like I said those were examples, not necessarily good ones05:10
crimsunAdmiralCrunch: I've dist-upgraded from that05:11
AdmiralCrunchThere are msstyle clones of classic you could use with WINE... but msstyles seem to be fairly sluggish05:11
AdmiralCrunchcrimsun: hmmm... I think I may have to download Flight 405:11
ubuntu_Question: what would happen if i was to pull the heat sink off my processor, add new thermal grease, then put a peltier junction[ the things the frigs. uses flat componet the produces coldness on one side heat on the other] . Then added old heat sink to hot side. Could i optumiz processor speed with different size OP amp powering PJ, or Peltier junction rating >?05:11
BigDaddyI am having trouble describing this app correctly05:11
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AdmiralCrunchHey frank05:11
ivonchiholas05:11
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crimsunJackSprat: your model may be one that needs fiddling with 'Headphone Jack Sense' and/or 'Line Jack Sense'05:12
Madpilotubuntu_: ask at a modding forum for that sort of thing - try http://forums.bit-tech.net/05:12
Mordofubuntu_, doubt people would know too much in here, sounds like a bad idea to me though05:12
BigDaddyit doesn't change anything other than the colors of the window elements. a theme in GTK or msstyle are "themes" applied to windows05:12
JackSpratcrimsun: how do I get to those settings?05:12
crimsunJackSprat: try (un)muting either/both (in combinations)05:12
AdmiralCrunchSyco54645: its a bit odd that we meet in a crowded IRC channel eh? :P05:12
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crimsunJackSprat: use alsamixer (press 'm' to {un}mute)05:12
MordofBigDaddy, yes it does bigdaddy, it changes everything, that is not a windows theme05:12
BigDaddyMadpilot - that sounds like a good idea05:12
crimsunJackSprat: (alsamixer is a cli app)05:12
MordofBigDaddy, none of those are the windows classic theme05:12
Syco54645AdmiralCrunch: um, maybe if i knew who this was05:13
AdmiralCrunchSyco54645: Its quandar... Dan...05:13
Syco54645bah05:13
Syco54645i suppose it isnt since we both use ubuntu05:13
AdmiralCrunchI am trying to get Dapper to work right now, reinstalling05:14
BigDaddyMordof - http://pixelarmy.org/q/index.php?poo=3dcc.php Those are all the windows classic style. They are just recolored05:14
Mordofgah! damn screensaver! i wish it could tell weither i was away from my computer or not05:14
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MordofBigDaddy, not one of those is windows classic style05:14
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BigDaddyMordof - They all are. OK if you right click on the desktop and go to properties. then go to appearance ->advanced05:15
nomad111why shuld flash be a restricted format05:15
BigDaddyThen pick WIndows Classic. The sub-style like Brick, Eggplant, High Contrast05:15
AdmiralCrunchby the way... reiserfs or ext3 anybody have any insight as to one as better than the other05:15
BigDaddy3DCC is the same thing05:15
Madpilotnomad111: because it's owned by Macromedia...05:15
MordofBigDaddy, i know what the windows classic themes look like. ive made many themes, including written my own version of explorer.exe05:15
MordofBigDaddy, then those screenshots are not what 3dCC looks like05:16
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MordofBigDaddy, and all those screenshots are a mis-representation05:16
nomad111im pissed off coz the gnome and kde applications are mixed together05:16
MordofLIES! lol05:16
nomad111i installed kde yesterday and i wish i didnt05:16
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Mordofnomad111, yeah i wish i hadnt done that either, but i formatted so its long gone05:17
MordofBigDaddy, unless those are just color representations, in which case 3DCC is pointless05:17
MordofBigDaddy, a program loses all credibility when they spell highlight as "Hilight"05:18
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Mordofunless i dont know how to spell05:18
Mordofwhich means ill just shut up and go play games05:18
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BigDaddyMordof - I guess that is one way to descibe it - Color representations. Not all of the 3DCC themes look like that. None of ine ever did05:18
darthbutcher!mediamouse05:18
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher05:18
darthbutcherHey.05:18
darthbutcherSup?05:18
BigDaddyBack to the topic though, this Gnome Art is really cool little app05:19
MordofBigDaddy, ? its the theming system for ubuntu05:19
darthbutcherI need some help.05:19
darthbutcherhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1792,contentid=959805:19
pianoboy3333BigDaddy, I like it, but the firefox GMD theme doesn't work......05:19
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darthbutcherI need to get that running in Linux.05:19
BigDaddyI just downloaded this from the link the Ubotu sent me05:20
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MordofBigDaddy, can you paste for me?05:20
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Mordofwasnt aware there was something else05:20
rymanhow do I get into ~/.gnome ?05:20
Mordofryman, "Show Hidden Files" in your view menu, or some other menu05:21
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BigDaddymordof - sudo apt-get install gnome-art05:21
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Madpilotryman: Ctrl+H in nautilus05:21
rymanMadpilot, Mordof : thanks05:21
BigDaddyhey guys I got to go. My daughter just cam out here and told me to go to bed05:21
gnomeeehow to install font individually05:21
BigDaddylol05:21
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MordofBigDaddy, shes a conspirator, dont listen!05:21
BigDaddyMadPilot, Mordof - you guys take it easy05:22
gnomeeehow to install a font05:22
BigDaddymy wife probably sent her out here05:22
BigDaddynight all05:22
gnomeeeubotu font05:22
ubotumethinks font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto05:22
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adubdoes anyone in here use airsnort05:23
rymanhmm I dont see .gnome in there. I only see .gnome205:23
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Mordofryman, then its not in there..05:23
pianoboy3333crimsun: I used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for java05:24
darthbutcherhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1792,contentid=959805:24
darthbutcherHow do I install that?05:25
IdleOnedarthbutcher:  what is it?05:25
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darthbutcherIdleOne: I have a media mouse, it enables medianess.05:25
darthbutcher!cordlessclick05:25
ubotudarthbutcher: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:25
darthbutcherI am gonna try Wine to install it.05:26
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Madpilotdarthbutcher: does it work as a basic mouse, or not at all?05:26
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darthbutcherMadpilot: it works as a basic mouse05:27
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darthbutcherIs it possible to get IE7 working on Linux?05:27
darthbutcher!ue705:27
ubotudarthbutcher: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:27
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darthbutcher!ie705:27
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher05:27
Madpilotdarthbutcher: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto05:28
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dechtakarHi, I'm a complete newb at this... is it possible to install both Ubuntu and Mac OS X onto an external FireWire hard drive, and have them both bootable?05:30
Nunquam_FidelisOk - when trying to apt-get xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop in Dapper, I get error messages about unmet dependencies.05:30
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darthbutcherMadpilot; That didn't work05:30
dechtakarI've found documentation on how to install just Ubuntu, but I haven't seen an external dual-boot solution05:31
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Madpilotdarthbutcher: try here again later, or ask on the forums05:32
darthbutcherk05:32
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ivonchi%green05:36
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krzhello05:37
krzive looked at the gentoo installation guide. quite a lot of steps to do. ive installed gentoo before. so somethings are quite familiar. i also looked at ubuntu, which is pretty much a straightforward installation. i guess my question is, when would a user need to install a distro like gentoo over a distro like ubuntu?05:37
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darthbutcher!limewire05:38
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.05:38
Mordofhas anyone ever gotten Nfsug2 working in wine?05:38
Mordof(need for speed underground 2)05:38
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Madpilotkrz: when they were/are insane :P05:38
Dr_Williskrz,  when ya want to do a lot of tweaking and cuzeomizing and twiddling.05:39
IdleOneMordof:  use cedega05:39
MordofIdleOne, tried, i dont know how to get it running stuff05:39
bimberikrz: when they must have the absolute latest ... Now!05:39
darthbutcher!frostwire05:39
ubotufrostwire is, like, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/05:39
akantwhat is the difference between a 386 version of the kernel and a 686?05:39
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Dr_Willis300 :P05:40
IdleOnelmfao I was just thinking that05:40
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krzhow much faster would the ubuntu distro run compared to a distro like gentoo?05:41
Dr_Williskrz,  gentoo COULD be a little faster.. but proberly not much worth worrying about.05:41
IdleOnekrz:  install ubuntu use it for a month and you wont think about genntoo05:41
La_PaRCais there something similar to kdevelop using gtk?05:41
akantboo05:41
akant:)05:41
bimberiLa_PaRCa: anjuta ?05:41
krzIdleOne have you used gentoo before?05:41
IdleOnekrz nope05:42
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MordofIdleOne, every time i try to use cedega it says "Please install cedega before playing any games"05:42
IdleOneMordof:  did you install it?05:43
krzbtw, the ubuntu installation cd is straighforward? or you would need to do a lot of manual configuration, like in gentoo?05:43
Mordofi thought i did..05:43
Dr_WillisMordof,  you  normally install the Point2Play thing. then have it install the latest cedega.05:43
Dr_Willisactually with 5.0 thats not right. :P lol.05:43
MordofDr_Willis, oh ok05:43
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Dr_Willisit has a 'update' feature ya want to run05:43
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IdleOnekrz ubuntu is straight forward install05:43
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krzGentoo uses emerge, what does ubuntu use? just to have an idea?05:44
akantHas anyone gotten the Cisco VPN client to work with Breezy?  I am reading about a patch for this? am I on the right track?05:44
Madpilotkrz: apt-get or Synaptic05:44
benplautkrz: if you've done gentoo, then you'll be thinking you somehow happened to skip the 85 middle pages of the install guide05:44
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knighthi05:44
knightall05:44
benplaut'lo knit05:44
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benplaut*knight05:44
benplautsarg: enjoying Ubuntu LiveCD?05:45
knightCan I remote install05:45
knightthis operating system05:45
knightinto a laptop05:45
sargyep, thanks for`asking05:45
benplautknight: it would be quite hard05:45
krzdoes ubuntu have good support for wireless lan?05:45
benplaut!netinstall05:45
ubotubenplaut: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:45
benplautbah05:45
sargon an all debin network thogh :P05:46
knightwell I have been able to setup a LTSP enviroment how different can it be05:46
IdleOne!wireless05:46
ubotuit has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:46
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knightI want to be able to image my laptop05:48
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knightit has no cd rom drive05:48
knightall I can use is the network to boot05:48
knightand usb05:48
bimberiknight: there are some advanced install methods described here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation05:48
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bimberiknight: the Netboot install looks promising :)05:48
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krzout of experience. which is considered to have more bloat: suse, redhat, or ubuntu?05:49
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Dr_Willislook at the # of cd's they come on. :p05:50
anto9uskrz, windows05:50
Dr_Willisubuntu =105:50
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PrimoTurboFor anyone who is runing XGL!! How do you see the top of the cube?05:50
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interferondoes the ubuntu installer cd support resizing ntfs partitions?05:51
whyamiwhen I plug my evolution UC-33e USB midi controller, /dev/midi is created but not /dev/midi1. I can't then seem to use the controller in Pd. Am I missing a module or something? How can I troubleshoot this?05:51
bimberiinterferon: yes05:51
PrimoTurboWhen I do ctrl + alt + left/right it switches but I can't see the dambe cube.05:51
anto9uskrz, if you do a server install of ubuntu then install xubuntu-desktop on top of that, it should be quite minimalistic05:51
PrimoTurbointerferon: No I don't think so05:51
MacSlowPrimoTurbo, Ctrl-Alt lmb-drag05:51
bimberiinterferon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning05:51
stevenuhi all have just got ubuntu running but I had 2 monitors attached when installing now I cant get the resolution up to the right level for my flatscreen05:51
PrimoTurboMacSlow: Sweet thanks05:51
PrimoTurbothat's ownage05:52
PrimoTurboany more shortcuts?05:52
wastrelwhat is lmb ?05:52
MacSlowPrimoTurbo, but you have to lmb-press/drag on an empty area05:52
PrimoTurboyeah I tried just now05:52
wastrelah nvm05:52
wastrelbrain clicked in05:52
MacSlowwastrel, lazy abbreviation for left-mouse-button05:52
PrimoTurbohow do u get a logo on the top part of cube?05:52
MacSlowPrimoTurbo, I guess you'll like that then http://macslow.thepimp.net/?p=2505:52
knightok05:53
darthbutcherAnyone here use LimeWire?05:53
knightso05:53
PrimoTurbosweet05:53
MacSlowPrimoTurbo, that's only working when you have a compiz compiled with libsvg and libsvg-cairo support05:53
knightIf I use netboot05:53
wastrelstevenu:  did you add higher rez to your xorg.conf?05:53
knightcan I also install redhat05:53
knightsince it is an image file that you send05:53
stevenuno ... new to linux will try that05:53
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PrimoTurboOMFG05:54
PrimoTurboTHIS IS BS, damn shift and backspace on XGL05:54
PrimoTurbowhat was that link again?05:55
knightI use limewire05:55
krzim looking in the ubuntu website. i cant find the installation guide .. :(05:55
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wastrelstevenu:  it's pretty simple, just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the lines where your video resolution are listed & add the resolution you want...05:55
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bimberikrz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/05:55
wastrelstevenu:  backup the working xorg.conf first :] 05:56
knightis it posible to remote install red hat05:56
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bimberikrz: sorry - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation05:56
knightwith ubuntu05:56
stevenuwastrel, :) thanks do I have to reboot to apply it ?05:56
darthbutcher!java05:56
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:56
whyamianybody know about midi interfaces?05:56
wastrelstevenu:  i think logging out & back in again should work.05:56
stevenuthanks05:56
wastrelalso ctrl-alt-backspace  kills the running X server05:57
wastrelif you should need to do that05:57
stevenuthanks ... gonna go try05:57
PrimoTurboHow do you zoom in XGL?05:58
PrimoTurboDoes anyone know how to ZOOM in XGL/Compize?05:58
benplautPrimoTurbo: you'd probably have to code a program to do it05:59
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PrimoTurboYou can do it with XGL06:00
PrimoTurbowhat's the shortcut06:00
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rymanI Love Ubuntu06:00
paquinme too!!06:00
knightwhy dont you marry it06:00
knightlol06:00
rymanI would if I could06:01
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rymanlol06:01
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MacSlowPrimoTurbo, check out the forums at www.ubuntuforums.org06:02
PrimoTurboI did06:02
PrimoTurboit says windows button and mouse2 or mouse306:02
PrimoTurbodoesn't work06:02
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wastreli use mozilla thunderbird06:03
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nonadesalut06:05
nonadePersonne ??06:05
wastrelok i don't get it06:05
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nonadeoki , its not french cannel ?06:06
nonadesorry , channel ?06:06
wastrel#ubuntu-fr ?06:06
nonadethanks06:06
wastrelyw06:07
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AdmiralCrunchguess I am just gonna have to install Breezy that dist-upgrade my way up... the iso mirrors for dapper are being laggy06:08
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wastrelthere's not a torrent or something?06:08
wastrelok how am i able to send mail when i can't find my relay host in my postfix settings?06:09
AdmiralCrunchyeah, I bet there is but I am on a live cd, and I am getting tired of fucking with it :P06:09
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wastrelomfg because it's delivering mail by itself with smtp06:11
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wastrelwell that's interesting06:12
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chris86wmdoes anyone know how to play video from a capture device using VLC?06:12
chris86wmi have audio working but i cant seem to get the video to play06:12
Puffy_TacoSo... I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an AMD64 system, but it hangs after I type my username/password (hangs on the brown background, mouse moves, keyboard seems frozen)06:12
Puffy_Tacothe livecd had the same problem06:13
Puffy_Tacothe forums seem to mention that this is a problem in breezy?06:13
Dr_WillisPuffy_Taco,  what processor and video card?06:13
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Puffy_TacoAMD64 3500+06:14
nonadeHelp , searsh french channel , not ubuntu-fr ??06:14
Puffy_TacoNvidia geforce 680006:14
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rymannonade, french channel is #ubuntu-fr06:14
Dr_WillisPuffy_Taco,  about what I got.. mine is working fine. :( hmmm...06:14
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nonadeyes but other ubuntu-fr06:14
rymanhmm I dont know06:15
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nonadethank06:15
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bassinboylol, how do you get unzip??06:17
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keithhhhhhhhhwow this room is surprisingly quiet06:17
wastrelbassinboy:  sudo apt-get install unzip06:18
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bassinboywastrel: Bleh, didn't see it when I searched for it :P06:18
wastrelthat's how they get ya06:18
nonadeok , i don't write english , but I have a problem with Skype for Ubuntu64 bit , help06:19
keithhhhhhhhhIm new to ubuntu and relatively new to linux....I was wondering is there a way to install a full copy of both Ubuntu and Win XP but I want to run XP in Ubuntu and I get really frustrated with Ubuntu I want to be able to remove Ubuntu easily.06:20
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keithhhhhhhhhAnyone done this before?06:20
rymankeithhhhhhhhh, you can dual booting winxp and ubuntu06:20
rymanis that what you want ?06:21
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keithhhhhhhhhnot really06:21
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keithhhhhhhhhI want to run XP inside ubuntu06:21
wastrelrun xp in ubuntu - that would require vmware or something06:21
keithhhhhhhhhya I was thinking that06:21
keithhhhhhhhhbut the catch is06:21
rymanoh06:21
keithhhhhhhhhif I get really frustrated with ubuntu can easily delete it and just go back to XP06:22
keithhhhhhhhh?06:22
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GigaClonyeah06:22
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keithhhhhhhhhgiga - was that yeah for me?06:22
wastrelkeithhhhhhhhh:  if you're running xp in vmware it's a separate installation of xp06:22
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GigaClonkeithhhhhhhhh, most programs in XP have a Linux equivalent06:23
wastrelkeithhhhhhhhh:  as i understand it anyway...  so you wouldn't be able to do what you're thinking.06:23
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keithhhhhhhhhhmmm06:23
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keithhhhhhhhhIm getting a new hard disk for my notebook06:23
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ctabordaHi everyone!... I am having some problems... I am tyrign to put music in my ipod with GTKPOD but whenever I hit SYNC to save the things to the ipod it says it cant because its "Read Only File System"06:23
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rymanI have problem locating .gnome folder. Where can I find the ~/.gnome folder? I'm trying to change my splash screen06:24
GigaClonkeithhhhhhhhh,  for other programs you can run WINE which allows you to run some windows programs in linux06:24
keithhhhhhhhhya06:24
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keithhhhhhhhhhmmm06:24
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wastrelryman:  ~/.gnome should be in your home directory06:24
coirDoes aynone know how I can change Xubuntu-desktop's (Xfce's) display resolution through the terminal?06:24
wastrelryman:  there may also be a ~/.gnome206:25
GigaClonalso Ubuntu should be easy to remove if needed06:25
keithhhhhhhhhhmm cool06:25
GigaClonjust reformat the partition its on06:25
rymanwastrel: .gnome isn't in my home dir06:25
ctabordaHi everyone!... I am having some problems... I am tyrign to put music in my ipod with GTKPOD but whenever I hit SYNC to save the things to the ipod it says it cant because its "Read Only File System"... anyone?06:25
ryman.gnome2 is there though06:25
timfrost!tell ctaborda -about ipod06:25
keithhhhhhhhhI think what I might do is back up everythign I have going right now, and if in the future I can always go back06:25
wastrelryman:  you've probably never had gnome 1 so .gnome wasn't created06:25
keithhhhhhhhhI like linux06:25
keithhhhhhhhhbut limited experience06:26
Dr_Willisit pays to read and read and read some more :P06:26
GigaClonUbuntu is the way to learn06:26
keithhhhhhhhhUbuntu's idea of just installing one program for one function sounds great06:26
coirUbuntu doesn't teach people how to compile and such.06:26
coirThough it'sr eally simple.06:26
ctabordatimfrost, I already kind of know.. im just ahving problems mounting it as NOT ONLY READ ONLY!06:26
rymanwastrel: I wonder where the splash-ubuntu.jpg located at ? because I want to put the new splash images into the same dir06:26
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GigaClonthe best way for dual-booting system is such:06:26
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Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  IF its the program you perfer to use.06:26
wastrelryman:  locate splash-ubuntu.jpg06:27
hatake_kakashicoir: its not meant to06:27
keithhhhhhhhhMandrake looks great but I feel that Im installing so much crap and I dont know what is on the system06:27
GigaClon5GB windows XP Partition06:27
wastrelryman:  locate is your friend :] 06:27
GigaClonthen 10-15 GB linux partition06:27
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  this is all linux. :P you can make it do what you want. remove what you dont want.06:27
coirhatake_kakashi, I know, but someone said "Ubuntu is the way to learn" =P06:27
GigaClonthen the rest FAT3206:27
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timfrostctaborda, was the ipod removed frm its cradle in mid-sync at some time?06:27
rymanwastrel, sorry I don't get it. I'm new to linux06:27
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GigaClonor get experience06:27
keithhhhhhhhhdr- but with mandrake there is so much I dont know what I have most of the time hehe06:27
hatake_kakashicoir: iirc ubuntu was recommended for newcomers of linux06:28
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  learn the fundamentals. the rest is just iceing on the cake.06:28
ctabordatimfrost, nop..06:28
wastrelryman:  locate is a command that finds files06:28
keithhhhhhhhhdr - I agree but I find that linux always had a problem with file management06:28
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rymanwastrel, thanks06:28
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  i dont find any problems with it. :P now Windows on the other hand... i do find problems06:29
GigaClonkeithhhhhhhhh, one important dual-booting thing to note, Linux can't write to NTFS (WinXP) drives06:29
Dr_Willisdepends on what you 'define' "file management" as :P06:29
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GigaClondrives partitions06:29
ctabordatimfrost, and what happens if it did? I mean what could the solution be?06:29
keithhhhhhhhhdr - hahaha I agree there are lots of probs with win, Im not defending windows hehe06:29
Dr_WillisWindows CAN read/write to ext2/3 partitions now :P whioch is nice.06:29
Dr_Williswith the right extra tool. :p06:30
keithhhhhhhhhdr - Linux cant be installed onto NTFS really I thought it could06:30
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  with QEMU ya can run it on a windows install.. if you needed to.06:30
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Dr_Willisfrom what i gather ext3 is in many ways better then NTFS :p06:30
coirCan someone assist me with a display res problem?06:30
Dr_Willisbut i dont know how ya would benchmark/prove such a statement.06:31
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Toma-coir, whats the problem?06:31
keithhhhhhhhhdr - I tried the live disk but my internet connection always craps out after 5 minutes, do you think I will have the same problem when I install from scratch?06:31
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coirToma-, messing with Xfce res, I selected a bad one, apparently. It's all goofy when I try to load it up, so I can't see anything06:32
timfrostctaborda, some fi;lesystem types need to be checked (e2fsck, chkdsk) every so often.  But that shouldn't affect FAT32, which I assume for Ipod.06:32
ctabordayeap06:32
Toma-coir, ahhh silly. press Ctrl-Alt-+ or -06:32
ctabordaso why am I getting read only file sys?06:32
MindFreakQuestion i just double clicked taskbar at top now it dissappeared... ho0w i get it back06:32
MindFreak?06:32
coirToma-, that'll change the res?06:33
Toma-coir, yep06:33
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  doubtfull. the live cd is out dated in ways. and is not a really good test. theres other live linux disrtos ya may want to try out as well.06:33
coirOk, I'll give it a shot. Ty.06:33
wastrelcoir:  numberpad + and -06:33
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wastrelhope he has a numberpad06:33
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wastrelhm i broke my email06:34
wastrelbleh i've never liked postfix06:34
MindFreak Question i just double clicked taskbar at top now it dissappeared... ho0w i get it back06:34
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hatake_kakashianyone know if k7 is athlon?06:34
akantI think you are correct06:35
cameroni think so06:35
bimberihatake_kakashi: yes06:35
hatake_kakashiok thanks06:35
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akantPre thunderbird cpu06:35
akantI think06:35
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Toma-MindFreak, in gnome?06:35
coirToma-, didn't work. o_o06:35
wastrelMindFreak:  what window manager?06:35
akantThe k7 was Slot A correct?06:35
coirctrl alt +/-, right?06:35
wastrelcoir:  you have to use numberpad + and -06:35
coirI tried that :-P06:35
MindFreakthink it's gome06:36
coirI'll try again.06:36
hatake_kakashiakant: nfi heh06:36
Toma-gah06:36
keithhhhhhhhhI hate to ask this question but has anyone been able run IE in Linux, I almost never use IE except I surf Korean websites sometimes and most korean sites expect active X  :(06:36
MindFreakrunning a live CD06:36
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wastrelMindFreak:  did you try logging out & back in again?06:36
wastrelah06:36
akantlol06:36
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  ick.06:36
keithhhhhhhhhDr - ya I know06:36
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  heck i even disable activeX when i Have to use IE.06:36
MindFreakhave no controlles06:36
Dr_Willisits that big a security issue.06:36
wastrelMindFreak:  try alt-f2 then type gnome-panel & hit enter06:36
keithhhhhhhhhdr - ya I dont blame you at all, but Korean websites are that way :(06:37
hyphenatedkeithhhhhhhhh: I've seen it done via crossover office. I was rather disgusted at the guy who set it up06:37
Toma-keithhhhhhhhh, you can run IE thru wine06:37
Dr_Willis:)06:37
Dr_Willisget spyware on your wine install...06:37
wastrelMindFreak:  also ctrl-alt-backspace will force quit if you should need to do that06:37
keithhhhhhhhhToma - cool06:37
Dr_Willismakes ya woner what a site would be doing that would REQUIRE activeX06:37
MindFreakdon do nothing06:37
hatake_kakashiDr_Willis: heh lol06:37
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keithhhhhhhhhdr - well Korean websites also require citizen numbers06:38
Dr_Willisi can only think of 2 reasons for it. (sites that i use that need ActiveX stuff)06:38
Toma-keithhhhhhhhh, http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html06:38
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hyphenatedDr_Willis: wine can run some viruses just fine06:38
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Dr_Willishyphenated,  i use wine to install spyware - so i can see what it put where. :P06:38
wastrelcoir:  how'd it go?06:38
coirwastrel, didn't work still.06:38
hatake_kakashiDr_Willis: hmm looks like the spyware is eating through my *nix box... I'll have to re-install ;)06:38
wastrelcoir:  check in /etc/X11/  see if you have any backup xorg.conf files06:38
keithhhhhhhhhdr - its hard to explain but Korean websites arent programmed using standards, they are programmed around IE06:38
Toma-ubotu, tell coir about fixres06:39
coirwastrel, there's an xorg.conf06:39
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: iirc, Netscape 8 has both IE and FF engine on it, and if that's the case, there might be a linux version06:39
MindFreakah that worked06:39
MindFreakthx06:39
MindFreaksome kinda bug or somthing06:39
MindFreak?06:39
keithhhhhhhhhdr - even though I use windows I dont use Outlook, IE (except for Korean websites) or even media player06:40
wastrelcoir:  any xorg.conf.092206 or anything like that?06:40
keithhhhhhhhhdr - or even messenger ;)06:40
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keithhhhhhhhhdr - or word06:40
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: why the hell would you require citizen numbers to visit korean site? I don't understand at all06:40
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keithhhhhhhhhhatake - hehhehe Korean web is totally different06:41
wastrelMindFreak:  dunno, i haven't used the livecd... gnome panel does die on me from time to time06:41
Dr_Willishatake_kakashi,  heh - i dont even think we want to get started on this topic! :p06:41
Dr_Willisheh heh06:41
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keithhhhhhhhhHatake - whats your feeling on micro payments?06:41
Dr_Willissomthing sounds 'odd' there. :p06:41
wastrelanyone good with postfix?06:41
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Toma-keithhhhhhhhh, tried opera?06:42
keithhhhhhhhhHatake - see since many korean websites require citizen number they can make micropayments easily and it makes korean sites awsome.06:42
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coirwastrel, nope, just xorg.conf06:42
keithhhhhhhhhToma - doesnt work with Korean sites that I want to go to06:42
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: I hope you don't mean visiting .pk sites, I have a chipset for PCI RAID card which is made from South Korea. Their site doesn't seem to ask me for citizen number06:42
Toma-i c06:42
keithhhhhhhhhToma - I use firefox but all respect to Opera  ;)06:42
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hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: ah06:42
hatake_kakashiDr_Willis: heh06:42
jumpkickerr anyone here have a Voodoo3 video card?06:42
HarpHmm, I know what he's talking about06:42
Harpkorean sites require a korean SSN a LOT06:43
wastrelcoir:  hmm i don't know how xfce handles video resolution, but you should be able to fix it by editing your xorg.conf - i was hoping there'd be automatic backups06:43
keithhhhhhhhhHatake - well I do cam chatting in Korea  ;)06:43
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hatake_kakashiHarp: not for aralion.kr06:43
coirhmm06:43
keithhhhhhhhhHatake - and a bit of gaming  ;)06:43
Harpany kind of membership usually requires it06:43
Harplike most of the MMORPGs06:43
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: hmm06:43
Harpand cafe06:43
Harpand e-mails06:43
wastrelcoir:  you could also try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:43
keithhhhhhhhhyup06:43
hatake_kakashiHarp: hmm06:43
Harpany kind of membership. -__-06:43
keithhhhhhhhhI agree with Harp06:44
coirwastrel, which line should I be editing in xorg?06:44
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HarpLucky me, I still have mine ;D06:44
wastrelcoir:  toward the bottom you'll see display depth lines06:44
hatake_kakashiactually, .pk is pakistan lol.. umm Nth Korea is probably .pr?06:44
coirThere's a few.06:45
wastrelcoir find Default Depth06:45
Harpnorth korea has internet?06:45
keithhhhhhhhhhatake - I doubt there is any north korean sites yet hehe06:45
wastreland edit the mode lines for that depth06:45
wastrelshould be all you need06:45
coirfound06:45
HarpKorea = South Korea06:45
HarpNorth Korea = North Korea.06:45
keithhhhhhhhhharp - well ya the Leader probably has porn coming into NK but only for himself  ;)06:45
wastrelthere's also a little line in between them06:45
Dr_Willisthat seems Unfair. :P06:45
hatake_kakashiHarp: well there is a game called DracMu or something, and it doesn't require you to have citizen number.. if that was the case, then I wonder how do foreigners play it06:45
wastrelthat's "middle korea"06:46
wastrelbut nobody lives there06:46
Dr_Willisa little line... with a minefield.. :P06:46
Harpheh06:46
Harpwe call that the 38 line.06:46
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HarpXD it's nowhere near the 38 line though.06:46
Kyohow do I switch to the root account?06:46
Kyoin terminal06:46
Harpsu root06:46
keithhhhhhhhhhatake - Korea is finally making their games for international markets06:46
keithhhhhhhhhHatake but its a recent development06:46
wastrelsudo su root06:46
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: hmm06:47
Harp:d hmm.. how smart of them.. but..06:47
wastrelsu root would require a root password which ubuntu doesn't have06:47
keithhhhhhhhhHatake - if you play 1 or 2 Korean games you got to imagine there are many you cant06:47
HarpI wonder how well korean MMOs will fair in an international market06:47
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Harplike ragnarok online.. it's ok, but very few places are as wired as korea..06:47
Kyowastrel, nuts ...06:47
KyoI need to log in as root06:47
HarpI still love that game though. XD06:47
Dr_Willisconsidering  the slump in the MMORPG market right now.. :P i would not say its good..06:47
Kyohmmm let me try sudo then06:47
atoponceKyo, you can set root.  it is just disabled, but easy to enable06:48
keithhhhhhhhhHarp - my opinion if Korean games could find away to allow micropayments and really promoted well they could sell lots of stuff06:48
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: ahh well, it was just a question out of curiousity, I don't play MMORPG games anyway, but it'd be funny if I play a game from Korea that requires it. I'd probably have to fake one06:48
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atoponceKyo, you should use 'sudo' though06:48
Kyoatoponce, eh yeah, I'll stick with sudo06:48
Kyobtw, whats sudo?06:48
keithhhhhhhhhhatake - I dont play mmorpgs either06:48
HarpI really don't like how there's so much reliance on IE/korean SSN/MSNm in korea.06:48
atoponceKyo, "switch user and do" something06:48
hatake_kakashiand fyi under IANA ccTLD listing, there seems to be a Nth Koera on the list06:48
keithhhhhhhhhH - I play Kart Rider  ;) its a mario kart clone06:48
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: ah06:49
HarpI wish they'd be a bit more crappy-computer compatible.06:49
atoponceit launches commands based on the group you belong to in the sudoers file06:49
keithhhhhhhhhhatake- ya NKorea has a domain06:49
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keithhhhhhhhhHatake - just no one has internet06:49
Kyoatoponce,  so when I sudo is it switching to root?06:49
HarpA lot of korean sites are very heavy to load - they have like all the latest javascript just and flash menus06:49
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: heh06:49
KyoHarp, haha thats so true06:49
Harpit's overwhelming. Plus I have to set my safety settings to practically nonexistant to get anything to work06:49
Dr_Willislots of programmers with too much time on their hands...06:49
atoponceby default.  you can use sudo with any user on the system06:49
Dr_Willis:P06:49
keithhhhhhhhhharp then when you log in and use something its done with active x06:49
Harpnot to mention install this software and that software to gain access to some files.06:49
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HarpKorean sites are practically raping my computer ~~;; (and my SSN, if I ever surrender it.)06:50
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keithhhhhhhhhHarp - well the cool thing is that Korean websites assume your on broadband thats why the sites are multimedia intenstive  ;)06:50
wastrelcute:   354 go ahead punk, make my day06:50
wastrelsmtp response06:50
hatake_kakashitheres a fair few asian websites that are full of fancy stuff, not just Korean ones06:50
keithhhhhhhhhHarp - hahahhaa06:50
Harpwhich is nice and all, really, but I .. I don't usually just run firefox or IE.06:50
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KyoMy machine is lagging a bit ... is this normal? Its a 256 RAM + P3 (or P4)06:51
HarpI usually run a few other processes (trillian, a media player, irc, maybe a game or two, photoshop sometimes)06:51
KyoI'm running breezy heh06:51
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atoponceKyo, what software are you running?  firefox?  the caching feature chews up your ram06:51
HarpI know something is wrong when firefox is taking up almost 100MB of ram Oo;06:51
keithhhhhhhhhHarp - have you tried GOM player?06:51
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Dr_WillisKyo,  could be some service or somting is going on in the Background.06:51
freshakant  you there?06:52
keithhhhhhhhhHarp - my firefox is using about that much ram to but I have about 15 tabs hehe06:52
Kyoatoponce, yeah I'm running firefox ...06:52
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KyoDr_Willis, Hmm I'm not runnning any program really,06:52
Harpoops. linux* XD don't kick me!06:52
atoponceKyo, how long have you had it up today?  how many tabs did you have open?06:52
keithhhhhhhhhHarp - also soon a new firefox will be released soon06:52
Kyojust x-chat, firefox and terminal06:52
Dr_WillisKyo,  theres serices and cron jobs that may be going on.06:52
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Kyoatoponce, 12+ hours ...06:53
Kyoheh06:53
atoponceyeah.  restart firefox06:53
atoponcethat will clear up your ram06:53
keithhhhhhhhhHarp - I also heard that some people find that FF has memory leaks06:53
Kyohmm how would I do that? close FF?06:53
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KyoDr_Willis, whats a cron jobs06:53
freshthe Firefox memory thing is a "feature"06:53
Dr_WillisFF has a 'grab all ya can and cache stuff' feature also06:53
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Dr_Willis:P06:53
atoponcekeithhhhhhhhh- it's a cahing feature, not a memory leak06:53
hatake_kakashiKyo: schedule06:53
Harphaha. an "undocumented feature"06:53
freshhaha06:53
Dr_Williskyo programs that run at scheduled times.06:53
freshtoo many tabs will do that06:54
atoponceyou can disable it if you don't like it...06:54
keithhhhhhhhhato okay  I have a gig of memory so I havent experienced it06:54
Dr_WillisKyo,  example woule be the 'updatedb' task - that keeps 'find' up to date06:54
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wastreli like me some updatedb06:54
atoponcememory leaks are not uncommon with software that complicated, however.06:54
HarpEh.. I have a gig of ram but... I'm a graphics intensive winxp tablet user.. so lol. my fault.06:54
wastreli usually run it manually on my laptop before i use locate06:54
KyoDr_Willis, I see. say, are you really a doctor?06:54
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keithhhhhhhhhharp hehe ya I just run to much also06:55
keithhhhhhhhhbut 512 is good06:55
hatake_kakashiDr_Willis: you mean updatedb for locate rather than find? :)06:55
Dr_Willishatake_kakashi,  yea thats it. :p06:55
keithhhhhhhhh1 gig is great ;)06:55
zamolxeshi. so I installed breezy, but using the default sources I can't seem to find some of my favourite apps. like audacity, the msttcorefonts package  or midnight commander . What additional sources should I use? Also, what sources should I add in order to play movies? I need kplayer, codecs and such. Thanks!06:55
HarpGosh... I wish I could get my laptop to dual boot. ..but last time I attempted that I lost +200GB of data.06:55
KyoHarp, ouch06:55
KyoHarp, it isn't that hard ...06:56
HarpI'm still in the process of recovering parts of it..06:56
Harpparts of it in forums of AHHH#@$%#$^&%&*^(&^*&%^$!!06:56
Dr_Williszamolxes,  :P the wiki/forums cover the repos I think. lol.. lets see if the bot has a url06:56
Harpin the forum of*06:56
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Dr_Willis!sources06:56
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:56
zamolxesthank you06:56
Kyoeh, I'm pretty much at a stand still with ubuntu ... I'm sure I can make it more useful. Any programs I should download?06:57
Harp:x I'd really appreciate an autmatic installer in ubuntu for making a dual-boot system, but I get the feeling if something was possible, someone would've already made it.06:57
KyoHmm any music download program in linux?06:57
Dr_Williskyo check the p2p wiki page. :P06:57
Dr_Williskyo there are several06:57
KyoHarp, as an experience I duel boot ubuntu and WinXP, it works great06:57
HarpThe partitioning thing is a kind of tricky...06:57
Kyothen I was like, bah, so I just installed ubuntu for the whole partition06:58
HarpI had to try several times in SuSE.06:58
KyoHmm not quite, you install windows leave a 10 gbs as unpartition06:58
hatake_kakashiheh, my box only has linux on it, no windows = no bloatware put simply06:58
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Kyothen you install ubuntu and let it use the unpartition space ...06:58
KyoI know, before using ubuntu I tried duel booting redhat and windows06:58
wastreli resized my windows partition and installed ubu in the free space06:58
Harpdual*06:58
KyoI had to throw away my old PC because of that (long story -- I busted my power source)06:59
wastreli only use windows for WoW though06:59
KyoHarp, or you can get a cheap laptop/PC and install ubunutu on it06:59
HarpSounds simple but I really.. learned my lesson after losing both my master and slave drive after ubuntu went install crazy ~~;06:59
keithhhhhhhhhis there any good widget like toys for ubuntu?06:59
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hatake_kakashi!superkaramba07:00
ubotuSuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org07:00
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Dr_Willisgnome = gdesklets07:00
Dr_Williskde = karamba/superkaramba07:00
wastrelfeh07:00
Dr_Willisboth = lots of eye candy :P07:00
wastreluseless eye candy07:00
keithhhhhhhhhcool07:00
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Kyorwar.07:01
spazzzHey.. Does anyone here have any experiance with ImageMagik07:01
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keithhhhhhhhhBTW how easy is it to upgrade your desktop?07:01
hatake_kakashiwastrel: I don't like too much eyecandy anyway07:01
spazzzI just have a really quick question07:01
Kyokeithhhhhhhhh, easy =)07:01
peejspazzz: ask the question07:01
Kyospazzz, don't ask to ask, just ask07:01
keithhhhhhhhhcool07:01
Dr_Willisif you run all your apps full screen. then the gdesklet/karamba stuff - is a little useless :P07:01
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hatake_kakashibtw is there any iPod 5th gen (iPod with video) music transferer available in Gnome? I only know amaroK for KDE can do it07:02
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spazzzpeej: Ok... Basicly i'm making a series of Icons and I want to convert them down from one size to a smaller one.. Now I already figured out how to use the convert command to take all the images from one directory, resize them and put them in another.  The probum is I need the filenames preserved and convert wants to rename everything07:03
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boscohas anyone gotten suspend 2 working07:04
spazzzI tried using the command "convert *.png -resize 72x72 /newdir/*.png" and it renames everything 01 02 ect.07:05
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spazzzI also tried "convert *.png -resize 72x72 /newdir/$img" and that does not work either07:06
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Dr_Willishmm.. why do ya need to conver tehm smaller? most of the ones i make get scaled by the window manager.07:06
Dr_Willisof course Im just making a few icons hwere and there.07:06
glickhey anyone runnin the xubuntu desktop?07:07
spazzzDr.Willis: Because its a compleate set and the WM scaling function doesn't always do the best looking of jobs07:07
glickhow is that compared to ubuntu07:07
atoponceglick, yeah- it's completely mouse driven, but smooth and good07:07
rage`damn it, my isp seems to have been blacklisted on undernet :o07:07
glickatoponce, no icons right?07:07
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atoponceglick, plenty of icons.  where'd you hear that?07:08
boscohas anyone gotten suspend 2 working07:08
sampanrage`  are you sure?  most undernet servers block your connection if you don't have identd server running07:08
glickatoponce, i thought it didnt have icons on the desktop07:08
boscohey what is the usb drive name in ubuntu07:08
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sampanrage`  there are only a few undernet servers that let non-identd clients connect (try mesa.az.us.undernet.org for one ... and helsinki.fi.eu.undernet.org is another)07:09
timfrostspazzz, try 'for f in *.png; do convert $f -resize 72x72 /newdir/$f;done'07:09
atoponceglick, ahh not by default.  i think you can add them though07:09
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glickthey have xubunt screenshot anywhere?07:09
keithhhhhhhhhDo you think Ubuntu would run on a P1 with 80megs of ram?07:09
hatake_kakashiglick: google07:09
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  i ran it on such a machine.07:10
spazzztimfrost: alright hang on one sec07:10
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  the isntall takes forever.. but it can run07:10
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  and youwill watn to use a minimal desktop.07:10
keithhhhhhhhha notebook actually07:10
atoponceglick, http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2005-09,GGGL:en&q=xubuntu&sa=N&tab=wi07:10
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nick01keithhhhhhhhh, just don't try to use firefox on it :)07:10
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keithhhhhhhhhok well I tried and my screen went all melted colours during the installation07:11
atoponcei guess not the best.  :)07:11
spazzztim frost: Ok im not quite sure I understand you....07:11
atoponceglick, better: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=517&slide=2507:11
spazzzDoes that mean I enter "convert $f -resize 72x72 /newdir/$f"?07:12
glickcoo thanks07:12
atoponcenp07:12
atoponcebuilt to compare to CDE for the old UNIX systems07:13
jetscreamer!timfrost++07:13
amonkeyso i just fragged my system07:13
amonkeyprolly gonna crash soon07:13
Kyohm07:13
atoponcegotta love cde07:13
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spazzztimfrost: because if so i don't think that worked..07:13
hatake_kakashianyone know whats amaroK's equivalent on Gnome? or at least a music player that can export music onto iPod?07:13
timfrostspazzz, convert seems to work best when working with 1 fi;e rather than the entire directory.  My advice was to loop over the source files (for f in *.png), and run convert for the designated file (convert $f -resize 72x72 /newdir/$f) writing to output file newdir/$f.07:14
jetscreamerjust install amarok07:14
atoponcehatake, listen07:14
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hatake_kakashijetscreamer: lol, well I have both KDE and Gnome heh.. but I was really looking for Gnome equivalent rather than using amaroK07:14
hunterphi, how can i turn off password for screensaver. i tried once and its not working. i really cant live like this07:14
boscohey what is the usb drive name in ubuntu07:15
boscohas anyone gotten suspend 2 working07:15
jetscreamer!info listen07:15
atoponceuse listen.  it's awesome07:15
spazzztimfrost: *Blinks* I don't quite understand what your saying. Im not writing a batch file I was just trying to throw the command out.  Are you saying i'm going to have to do this one at a time?07:15
amonkeyany suggestions for a guy who just overwrote the first 32megs of his active boot partition by accident?07:15
jetscreamer[00.15.10]  <ubotu> Package 'listen' does not exist.07:15
spazzzIf so then what is the point of using imagemagic for this sort of thing over Gimp?07:15
atoponcenot in the packages.  you'd have to manually download it07:15
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jetscreamerapt-get install hexedit maybe monkey... or some other helper type07:15
atoponce*repos07:15
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hatake_kakashiatoponce: and that can deal with iPod?07:16
KyoHmmm07:16
jetscreamerat least run grub-install again07:16
atoponcenot sure.  i don't have one.  :)07:16
KyoIs it possible to apt-get KDE?07:16
hatake_kakashiatoponce: blah lol07:16
wastreli would imagine so07:16
atoponceKyo- apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:16
jetscreamer!info kde07:16
hatake_kakashiKyo: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:16
ubotukde: (The K Desktop Environment), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB07:16
atoponcejinx!07:16
amonkeyi was thinking i will prolly have to completly reinstall linux cuz of this07:16
amonkey...07:17
hatake_kakashimeh07:17
jetscreamer!depends kubuntu-desktop07:17
krzwhats kubuntu-desktop07:17
timfrostspazzz, yes,  convert seems to work on one file at a time, and not over an entire directory :(07:17
krz?07:17
jetscreameroops'07:17
atoponcekrz- ubuntu with kde07:17
hatake_kakashilol jetscreamer nice one :D07:17
krzyuck07:17
hatake_kakashikrz: KDE07:17
boscokrz KDE07:17
boscoi recomend ubuntu out of the box though07:17
atoponcegnome is okay.  xfce is better.  :)07:18
hatake_kakashitty > * :p07:18
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jetscreamer\o/07:18
jetscreamer!botsnack07:18
ubotuthanks jetscreamer :)07:18
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italyhi all07:18
spazzztimfrost: Well that stinks.. I might as well just use Gimp then07:18
italyjust fixing a few problems07:18
zamolxesok, so for playing movies, google says i should add deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free and get the codecs from ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ . do you recommend something else?07:18
boscoif you run e17 then ubuntu is really good but just out of the box it is the best07:18
spazzztimfrost: Oh well thanks for the help07:19
boscoMPLAYER07:19
wastrelamonkey:  ouch what's left in /boot ?07:19
wastrelamonkey:  or is the whole partition toast07:19
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KyoI'm not sure if KDE is worth installing07:19
Kyoany advantage it has over Gnome?07:19
hunterphi, how can i turn off password for screensaver. i tried once and its not working. i really cant live like this07:19
atoponceit's bloatware07:19
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amonkeywastrel, i can't even see / cuz ls is gone. command not found07:19
boscokyo i would go with e1707:19
italyWHAT THE FUCK07:19
wastrelKyo:  some people like the interface better07:19
italyGOOGLE IS DOWN07:19
zamolxesbosco: yes, mplayer is a program one could use to play movies. One would also need codecs, hence my question :)07:19
calc_atoponce: that happens to take less ram to run ;)07:19
krzwhats the difference between a wm like fluxbox and a wm like kahakai? anyone know?07:19
italyHAHAHAH07:19
wastrelamonkey:  ohhh it's not /boot you killed it's /07:20
Kyobosco, E17?07:20
hatake_kakashiEnlightment Kyo07:20
Kyoitaly, yo sure? *checks*07:20
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italyyeah07:20
italyfirst time ever google has been down07:20
Kyohatake_kakashi, screen shots?07:20
Mosihey folks07:20
tritiumitaly: watch the language please07:20
atoponcegoogle is up for me07:20
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calc_Kyo: much more configurable than gnome but doesn't look as good imho07:20
hatake_kakashiKyo: google07:20
boscoKyo, never mind wrong room07:20
sampangoogle works fine here07:20
wastrelamonkey:  i'd call that a re-install :/07:20
KyoHmm ok07:20
calc_Kyo: uses less memory than gnome as well afaik07:20
boscoKyo,  do you know what e17 is07:20
wastrelamonkey:  is /home on a separate partition?07:21
Kyobosco, no07:21
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boscoKyo that suprises me07:21
spazzzGoogles good here07:21
hatake_kakashie17 is Enlightment, probably version 1.7 or something07:21
Mosiis anyone here running a dual-boot PPC, with OS X?07:21
spazzzI think someone has a DNS glitch07:21
End_Userwell spazzz fell for it07:21
italyI don't have a good damn thing07:21
italygod damn it eld07:21
boscohatake_kakashi,  yes it is i have the latest version i just updated07:21
tritiumitaly: grr...07:21
calc_i use KDE at work and Gnome at home07:21
italy:D07:21
End_UserI said the exact same thing lol07:21
italytritium, hey07:21
italydon't ban me07:21
timfrost!bot07:21
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.07:21
MosiGnome for Home07:21
End_Userban his ass :P07:21
italyhey07:22
End_Userno dont he cant live without you guys07:22
italyI'm not trolling07:22
spazzzEnd_User: fell for what?  I happened to be searching with it when I saw that07:22
KyoWell ....07:22
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End_Userspazzz ah nvermind07:22
italyanyway07:22
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italyis e17 still in development?07:22
tritiumitaly: we're cool as long as you don't curse, especially in all caps07:22
End_Userspazzz on another server he made 3 people check to see if it was working and then he was all.. I'm going to try this in #ubuntu07:22
italytritium, well i thought google was down07:22
italywouldn't you go ape crap?07:23
boscoitaly, yes it is but if you know what you are doing you should have no problem running it07:23
calc_gnome people are working on making it use less ram though07:23
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boscoit is stll buggy07:23
atoponcegoogle has been down before.  it wouldn't be a first.07:23
MosiEnd_User: did he tell them the address was 127.0.0.1? :P07:23
KyoE17 looks nice but its still in pre-alpha stage ...07:23
CwiiisHi - I've upgraded to dapper, but now my machine won't boot :) (I was expecting as much, no biggie) - It seems it doesn't load the sata_nv module my hard-drive needs anymore perhaps, is there any known fix for this?07:23
tritiumitaly: not really, it takes a lot more to make me upset07:23
keithhhhhhhhhwhat desktop comes with Ubuntu?07:23
KyoI'll stick to a more stable version heh07:23
spazzzEnd_User: Ahh,  Well i think he needs a nap.  I was just searching to see if I can find some way to easily batch convert a whole bunch of .png files07:23
amonkeywastrel, no. i'm gonna go cry now07:23
boscoKyo then go with e16 that has been out for about 6 years07:23
Kyokeithhhhhhhhh, gnome07:23
sampankeithhhhhhhhh  gnome07:23
italytritium, ok, all your comps catch fire and your monitor explodes in your face.07:23
Mosilol07:23
atoponcekeith- gnome07:23
Kyobosco, haha ...07:23
calc_Cwiiis: you can add the module to the load list in yaird conf file and rebuild the initrd07:23
boscokyo hah07:23
boscoa07:23
italythen what?07:23
atoponceunfortuantely07:23
tritiumitaly: that would suck, but it's also offtopic...07:24
italyspazzz, get irfanview07:24
boscokyo what?07:24
calc_Cwiiis: i don't know the exact details on how to do that, i had to do it a few months ago for debian07:24
KyoIt looks very mac-ish07:24
wastrelamonkey:  sucks :[07:24
Mosiis anyone here running on a mac?07:24
keithhhhhhhhhwhy would one use Gnome vs KDE?07:24
italytritium, the big OT07:24
italyI PULLED AN OT07:24
Dr_Williskeithhhhhhhhh,  try them both.. pick what you perfer.07:24
calc_keithhhhhhhhh: its prettier than kde07:24
Cwiiiscalc_: Do you know if there's a how-to anywhere for that?07:24
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hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: different tastes07:24
spazzzitaly: I'd go get a fire extingqisher and build another box from the spare parts I have.  No biggie07:24
atoponcefrankly keith, i would use either xfce or blackbox07:24
End_Userheh07:24
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keithhhhhhhhhsame software?07:25
Kyobosco, the interact looks like a MAC07:25
calc_Cwiiis: from what i recall the config file explained where to stick the module names07:25
wastrelkeithhhhhhhhh:  it's mostly a matter of personal preference.  they both have good & bad points07:25
Kyo*mac07:25
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ctabordaHi everyone... im having some problems loading a USB drive with with WRITE permissions aswell.. not as READ ONLY FILE SYSTEM... how can I do this?07:25
atoponceyeah07:25
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italyactually i need to install ubuntu07:25
calc_Cwiiis: after doing that reinstalling the kernel will cause the initrd to be rebuilt07:25
wahyudear all how to play MP3 in ubuntu ?07:25
wabblei startet with gnome, then used kde for a long time. But i got tired of bugs on the networking so i am back in gnome land07:25
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boscokyo i know that i didnt know why you thought it was so funny07:25
yvesYay!07:25
timfrost!mp307:25
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:25
keithhhhhhhhhwell Im going to stick with Gnome at first07:25
italywahyu, MP3 support isn't native07:25
italy!mp307:25
Mosictaborda: does it have a rw/ro switch on it?07:25
boscokyo i ran e16 for about 1 year07:25
italyehhh07:25
hatake_kakashikeithhhhhhhhh: no different software, KDE != Gnome and vice versa.07:25
Cwiiiscalc_: Ah right, thanks - So I guess using the LiveCD and mounting the disk like that is in order?07:25
italy!tell wahyu mp307:25
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Kyobosco, how you liked it?07:26
YverzYay Yay!07:26
ctabordaMosi, its an ipod07:26
Mosiis anyone here using a mac?07:26
boscoKyo then i switched to e17 a little while ago after it got stable enough to run07:26
Yverz<- First ubuntu experience - running great- installed tons o stuff from the getgo.07:26
italymy ipod works mint in ubuntu07:26
Mosictaborda: lol, oh :P can't help you then.07:26
italyi use rhythmbox07:26
italybut whatever07:26
calc_Cwiiis: if you can boot an older kernel you could do that, for a fresh install not really sure what to do07:26
atoponceMosi- not right now, but i have an ibook07:26
KyoI'll get KDE 3.4 ... looks very nice from the screen shots =)07:26
ctabordawhy:S oh god07:26
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calc_Cwiiis: you could chroot to the installed image and then reinstall the kernel on the drive i guess07:26
boscokyo it got done what i needed it to but i e17 is so much better but buggy right now that is the only problem07:26
SmeggyI'm using a mac07:26
Mosiatoponce: i need a copy of yaboot.conf that's set up for dual-booting :(07:27
calc_Cwiiis: but if you don't know linux pretty well it could get hard07:27
nominI would like to start a debate.  Should people be allowed to charge home users for installing linux on their pc?07:27
MosiSmeggy: is it a dual-boot with OS X?07:27
boscoKyo i liked it but i like e17 much better07:27
Cwiiiscalc_: Seems I'm being hit by https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/28614 - I'll chroot in and install an older version07:27
Kyobosco, I see ...07:27
SmeggyMosi: no :/07:27
Dr_Willisnomin,  from a legal/gpl point of view - yes. :) its a service.07:27
tritiumnomin: please don't start an offtopic debate here07:27
Mosismeggy: =(07:27
wahyuitaly : rhytmbox right ??07:27
calc_Cwiiis: when i ran into the problem before i was using my own installer program so i just had it fixup the kernel during installation07:27
SmeggyMosi: what do you need from the config? the osx options?07:27
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Mosismeggy: thanks anyways07:27
wabbleby the way, how do i change default m3u player back to rhythmbox in firefox after mplayer installation?07:27
atoponcewell, i don't have my ibook dual booted, so i don't think i have the file you're looking for07:27
italywahyu, yeah07:27
calc_Cwiiis: yea maybe so07:28
atoponceit runx 10.3.907:28
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atoponce*runs07:28
Mosismeggy: basically, yeah. i blew up my yaboot, and i jsut got a gentoo live CD with yaboot, so i can reconfig it, but the CD doesn't come with a yaboot.conf that has the proper os x options. if i forget anything, i might not be able to boot at all, and that would be bad-cakes07:28
calc_Cwiiis: the problem that bit me was that the buslogic driver doesn't register with sysfs correctly07:28
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calc_which is what vmware uses07:28
Cwiiiscalc_: Ah well, it's all fun I s'pose :)07:28
wahyuitaly, ok i'll try to find07:29
Mosismeggy: as it is the first stage works alright, so i can boot into OS X, but i have no stage 2 boot labels, so i can't boot ubuntu07:29
boscodoes anyone have suspend 2 working in ubuntu mine is not working07:29
calc_well i'm going to bed now, bbl07:29
nominDr_Willis, tritium, I don't think this is offtopic.  I think there are some linux people that don't like the idea that linux might go to 'ordianary people'.07:29
Smeggydamn07:29
atoponcebosco- nope.  i wish07:29
tritiumnomin: it's offtopic07:29
atoponcemaybe in dapper07:29
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Mosismeggy: yeah, it's a bummer07:29
hatake_kakashinomin: its not directly related to ubuntu07:30
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tritiumbosco: edit your /etc/default/acpi-support07:30
calc_the only thing holding ordinary people back now is their wanting random windows apps to run on their system07:30
nomintritium, where should I go for this topic?07:30
calc_like ebay autolisters, etc07:30
tritiumnomin: #ubuntu-offtopic07:30
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wastrelnomin:  who's going to stop you?  there's no law against it.  'nuff said07:30
calc_i almost converted my non techie brother to ubuntu last year07:30
boscotrituim i did that what is the default image for it07:30
calc_he switched back due to ebay software07:30
Mosismeggy: *smack* wow, i feel special. i'm gonna go mount my linux partition and copy from that yaboot.conf, lol07:30
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tritiumbosco: what do you mean?07:30
Smeggyhaha07:30
Mosi>_>07:30
Mosi<_<07:30
Mosishh07:30
Mosilol07:30
tritiumMosi: stop that please07:30
boscoi have already tried that is what i am saying07:31
atoponce?07:31
Mositritium: apologies07:31
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ryman!tell ryman about cil07:31
yuri_hi... can someone tell me of a site where i can learn more about linux that isnt overly technical? I like how-tos07:31
tritiumbosco: did you enable ACPI_SLEEP?07:31
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ryman!tell ryman about cli07:32
boscoyes07:32
boscotritium yes07:32
eclair[busy] yuri_: the wiki.07:32
hatake_kakashiyuri_: tldp.org07:32
wastrel!tell yuri_ about rute07:32
tritiumbosco: what is not working?07:32
Yverz<== happy happy joy joy, first time got ubuntu up and running :)07:32
boscotritium, one sec i will tell you07:32
eclair[busy] Yverz: good for you :)07:32
atoponceYverz, congrats!07:32
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yuri_thanks guys!07:33
Yverzrunning it side-by-side with my windoze.   When I get the courage, I'll redo  my box and have a teenie windows partition instead.07:33
atoponcewelcom manicka!07:33
atoponce*welcome07:33
freelzeei need to know how to set the speed of a network connection permanently for a network connection to 10baseT but can't remember how to do it / how to make it permanent07:33
manickahi07:33
freelzeeredundancy ++++07:33
boscotritium, i need to reset the  [modules_image]  [kernel_headers] 07:34
hatake_kakashifreelzee: iptables may help07:34
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atoponcemanicka- were you able to send off that log of the meeting?07:34
tritiumbosco: I'm talking about /etc/default/acpi-support07:35
tritiumnot sure what you're referring to07:35
boscoi know07:35
manickayeah, didn't send you one07:35
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manickapm, me your email again07:35
monziee07:35
boscoTritium what are the [modules_image]  [kernel_headers]  in ubuntu07:35
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tritiumbosco: what are you trying to do?07:36
atoponcegot it?07:37
boscoi need to know that info to get it working again i am redoing it [modules_image]  [kernel_headers] 07:37
tritiumbosco: you're not making any sense07:37
manickano07:38
boscotritium, srry we must not be on the same page07:38
freelzeewhen trying to set the speed i'm using: "ifconfig eth1 media 10baseT" but I  get the error "port: SI0CSIFMAP: Operation not supported"07:38
Nameeaterwhats the command to update time info?07:39
NameeaterIm on dialup so I disabled the update on boot as it was useless, but i wouldn't mind running it now07:39
bosco tritium  that is what i am trying to do srry if i am not bieng clear i am redoing my hibernatefakeroot make-kpkg clean07:40
boscofakeroot make-kpkg --stem linux --append-to-version -suspend2-1 --config menuconfig \07:40
bosco  --initrd kernel_image [modules_image]  [kernel_headers] 07:40
bosco    *07:40
bosco      (!)07:40
tritiumNameeater: sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate restart07:40
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tritiumbosco: why didn't you explain that you're trying to compile a kernel?  We were talking about suspend/acpi-support07:41
Nameeaterik yagpdh Z(07:41
Nameeaterit failed :(07:41
boscotritium, i am srry i am very tired and i wasnt thinking srry do you know what to do07:41
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atoponcei can't seem to get pm or dcc to work.  i'll just fire off another email your way...07:42
tritiumbosco: first, why are you compiling a custom kernel?  (You don't need to for suspend007:42
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tritium)07:42
boscotritium,  then can you point me in the right direction07:42
tritiumbosco: as I said before, edit your /etc/default/acpi-support07:43
atoponcesent07:43
boscotritium, it is not even a directory anymore07:44
tritiumit's a file, bosco.  Did you delete it?07:44
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boscotritium, yes i did to restart from scratch07:45
tritiumbosco: who on earth told you to do that?07:45
boscotritium, me07:46
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tritiumbosco: please don't delete system files07:46
hatake_kakashianyone know how to start X without requiring logging in at tty? i.e. make X start at the login screen rather than having to login to one of the tty to start it from there07:47
boscotritium, i can get it back one sec07:47
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tritiumhatake_kakashi: default behavior is to have a login manager so you don't have to start X from a tty.07:47
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wastrelhatake_kakashi:  use a display manager07:47
Jivenixhow do you delete a folder and everything in it07:47
wastrelJivenix:  rm -r    be very careful with it - there's no undo07:48
Jivenixok07:48
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amonkeyhey again, it's that guy who wrote over the beginning of his partition. running off my usb key now, i'm having trouble mounting my former boot partition. the first 32mb are gone, but the data should still be there if i could just mount it07:48
hatake_kakashitritium: the problem is not that, I just did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy whilst on Xorg terminal, but when I logged out of that after the update, X server stopped07:48
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hatake_kakashiwastrel: you are not reading me correctly07:48
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boscotritium, i got it back now what do i do when i try to sudo it it is telling me that there is no command and when i do it without it tells me that permission is denied07:49
tritiumhatake_kakashi: restart the display manager then.07:49
tritiumbosco: it's a config file, not a command to be run.  You should edit it, and enable ACPI_SLEEP07:49
peejspazzz: actually imagemagick is a good cli tool for that sort of conversion. But only for people who are happy scripting. Else, yeah, use gimp.07:49
hatake_kakashitritium: hmm which one would it be under the tty?07:49
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tritiumhatake_kakashi: are you using gnome?07:49
monziehi07:50
peejamonkey : use dd_rescue or testdisk07:50
tritiumhatake_kakashi: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart07:50
hatake_kakashitritium: .. I'm on one of those ttys07:50
tritiumsee above07:50
boscotritium, how do i do that07:50
hatake_kakashitritium: I can't start it07:50
brennertritium: is that all that's needed to get suspend to ram working?07:50
tritiumbosco: uncomment the line where tha tis listed07:50
freelzeei need to know how to set the speed permanently for a network connection to 10baseT but can't remember how to do it07:51
tritiumbrenner: that, and then a reboot, and depending on your laptop, sometimes other tweaks07:51
peejamonkey or gpart - guesses partitions. Try various ones07:51
basic`i have a serious question here...07:51
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freelzeewhen trying to set the speed i'm using: "ifconfig eth1 media 10baseT" but I  get the error "port: SI0CSIFMAP: Operation not supported"07:51
Jivenixhow do i copy the contents of a subfolder, into its parent folder07:52
basic`i effed up my xorg.conf and need to get back to the original xorg.conf i had after installing ubuntu, is there a utility that will do that for me somewhere?07:52
boscotritium, # Uncomment the next line to enable ACPI suspend to RAM07:52
bosco#ACPI_SLEEP=true07:52
bosco that line07:52
Jivenixmv /sub/*.* *.* ?07:52
bahttp://www.mysterien.org/Bilder_News/moontruth.mpeg hahaha07:52
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amonkeypeej, the partition table is still there according to fdisk. should i fsck it? and should i clear a bad superblock or will that kill more data07:52
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tritiumbosco: yes, that one07:52
hatake_kakashitritium: nm I got it working, I forgot sudo, thanks07:52
Mabus06My friend was having trouble with his ubuntu machine, and he (probably foolhardily) tried to update his bios and it stopped working. No video output at all when he presses power. How would I reinstall his BIOS so I can install ubuntu again?07:52
brennerJivenix: mv * ..07:52
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brenneri think07:52
tritiumhatake_kakashi: cool :)07:52
boscotritium,  srry i am not with it what do you do to that file07:53
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basici effed up my xorg.conf and need to get back to the original xorg.conf i had after installing ubuntu, is there a utility that will do that for me somewhere?07:53
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tritiumbasic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:53
tritiumbosco: you uncomment that line by removing the "#" at the beginning07:53
basicthanks man07:53
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peejamonkey : if you know what the partition settings were, use fdisk to make the thing. fsck on an inconsistent partition may do horrible stuff. Have you got your lost partition back?07:54
atoponcemanicka- i sent an email.  i couldn't get gcc or pm to work.07:54
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DaveragGod I'm so screwed, I've been doing aptitudes, dpkg configure -a and apt-get install -f endlessly... I always get error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:54
Jivenixsweet07:54
Jivenixthanks07:54
amonkeypeej, the partitions are there, it's the filesystem that's screwed up cuz the beginning of it got overwrote07:54
tritiumDaverag: on dapper, or breezy?07:54
Daveragdapper07:54
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peejamonkey: is it just /boot that got overwritten?07:55
tritiumDaverag: that's the fun of running development releases, eh?07:55
peejamonkey : ok , looking through history07:55
bosco tritium both lines even  #ACPI_SLEEP=true07:55
Daveragyeah lots of fun... I had just got fglrx working, installed Xgl and bang everything crapped07:55
tritiumbosco: _only_ the one you pasted just now07:55
bradyheh, I just symbolically linked a directory over to /usr/local/bin.  How do I undo that?07:55
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tritiumbrady: remove the symlink with sm07:56
tritiumrm07:56
boscotritium, and it should work now just hit my power button07:56
amonkeypeej, what happened is i was playing with my ipod and i accidently wrote the ipodfirmware to the first 32megs of my /boot partition, which had my home directory in it07:56
bradytritium: i tried that but it said it was a directory07:56
tritiumbosco: hold on...did you save it?  It _may_ work after a reboot.  It might also need more tweaking07:56
Daveragbig problem with that package uim-gtk2.0_1%3a1.0.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb07:57
tritiumbrady: remove the symlink, not the directory07:57
peejamonkey : probably you screwed up the partion table the disk knows about. If you have a knoppix cd, use that to boot up things, then use testdisk to restore settings as best as possible.07:57
boscotritium, i did not save it yet i am still looking at it07:57
peejamonkey : you had home in /boot? ???07:57
buffaramawhat podcast clients work best with ubuntu?07:57
tritiumbosco: save it then, please07:57
peejamonkey : home is  not by default in /boot in ubuntu07:58
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Daveragbuffarama: really depends on your habits, you like to stream, or download automatically?07:58
amonkeypeej, there is the one partition mode that it defautls too07:58
boscotritium, i did that now what07:59
tritiumbosco: reboot, and test it.  Like I said, it may need tweaking.07:59
bradyis there anything in the /usr/local/bin directory normally on a clean install?07:59
peejamonkey: do you have any idea how you set up your system initially? was it a default ubuntu install ?07:59
tritiumno, brady07:59
bradyok thanks07:59
boscotritium,  thank you08:00
amonkeypeej, default newb install, one partition with data, one swap partition.08:00
buffaramaDaverag: download automatically, to transfer to my mp3 player08:00
Daveragbuffarama: check out castpodder08:02
peejamonkey: OK, apt-get install testdisk onto your usb stick (or use a knoppix cd to boot from). Run testdisk. Let it guess the partitions. Choose a likely one to put into fdisk, write the partition table with fdisk.08:02
Daveraghow can I fix my dependency problems about libfreetype.so.608:03
peejtestdisk works well for nonextended partitions, which is what you will have with the standard install.08:03
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brennerone for laptop users: how do i disable the horizontal scroll history feature in firefox?08:03
amonkeypeej, i'm on a usb key version of slax. how can i get testdisk in slax?08:04
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Tomcat_brenner: "about:config" => search for mouse stuff... I don't know the exact option.08:05
peejamonkey: beats me. have you checked it has it testdisk ?08:05
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brennerTomcat_: heh.  these options are rather cryptic08:06
Tomcat_brenner: Indeed... but I have never needed the option you're trying to find, so I can't tell you :)08:07
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brenneri'm guessing it's this one: mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action ... but i have no idea what value to replace it with ... currently it's 2. :-/08:07
boscotritium,  now it is telling me that my kernal does not have suspend 2 support08:07
peejamonkey: how about using a ubuntu live cd for the job?08:07
tritiumbosco: are you using a custom kernel?08:07
Tomcat_brenner: That value is the speed... so maybe 0 is disable. No idea. :)08:08
boscotritium, no i am not08:08
brennerTomcat_: heh, thanks anyway.08:08
tritiumbosco: what does "uname -a" tell you?08:08
peejamonkey: slax has something called pkgtool I think08:08
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amonkeypeej, i don't have time tonight, i'll do that next week when i get back. i had slax on a key so i just booted it up08:08
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boscotritium, Linux bosco 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Mon Jan 16 17:18:08 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:09
amonkeypeej, i got testdisk08:09
boscotritium, when i created a custom hibernate kernal it told me big fat eror08:10
Kyoany other cool irc programs besides x-chat?08:10
KyoI was thinking bitchx even ougnt its console (don't mind)08:10
ozzloy_my wireless card is not connecting.  the router is 5 feet away.  it lists in iwlist eth1 scan, it has essid set, there's no encryption.  any ideas?08:10
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peejKyo: there is an xbitch around.08:10
bur[n] erKyo: irssi :)08:10
ozzloy_card is on08:10
tritiumbosco: that is a custom kernel, not an ubuntu stock kernel08:10
r0dlol irssi, good times, good times08:10
Kyoxbitch heh, alrightly then ...08:10
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Kyocan I do apt-get install xbitch?08:11
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brennerTomcat_: woohoo, found it: http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Mousewheel..2A08:11
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amonkeypeej, what do i do with testdisk? the partition is fine, it's the filesystems that's gone poopy08:11
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boscotritium then it should work in the stock kernal08:11
brennerTomcat_: i'm guessing -1 is disable?08:11
peejamonkey : does fdisk show you the correct partitions?08:12
amonkeypeej, yes!08:12
tritiumbosco: yes, you're obviously not reading my comments very carefully08:12
r0dcfdisk is awesome08:12
Tomcat_brenner: Maybe? :)08:12
r0dbetter display..08:12
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boscotritium, like i said i am half awake and i am srry08:13
tritiumbosco: then let's workon this another time08:13
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johnclarki need help with ubuntu + wireless08:14
peejamonkey : then you should only have lost 32MB or whatever the ipod wrote. I guess fsck will have to fix it then.08:14
r0djohnclark, spit it08:14
johnclarkis ndiswrapper the only choice for belkin wireless w/broadcom chip?08:14
boscotritium,  if i run the stock kernal it should work right08:14
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r0djohnclark, yea:(08:14
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tritiumbosco: most likely yes.  As I've said, it may need some additional tweaking!!!08:15
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johnclark:S08:15
brennerTomcat_: well, you're a help. :)  -1 didn't work08:15
boscoallright08:15
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peejamonkey : you'll probably get lots of crap in /lost+found to look through - maybe you should mount lost+found on another disk?08:15
r0djohnclark, get a diff card bro. i have intergrated pos broadcom on my laptop. i bought a prismII card08:15
tritiumr0d: broadcom will be supported in dapper08:15
amonkeypeej, i'm unfamiliar with that procedure08:15
r0dcool! how? tritium08:16
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concept10r0d, I have a broadcom working on my laptop, no problem08:16
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johnclarkconcept10, care to tell me how?08:16
r0dconcept10, so do i, u can't use any good tools with broadcom kismet08:16
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r0dand pentesting w/ it is a joke08:17
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concept10r0d, what type of card do you have?08:17
concept10johnclark, ^^08:17
r0dbetter question is what card don't i have concept1008:17
hangfireanyone know if ubuntu installs ATI graphic drivers?08:17
tritium!tell hangfire about ati08:17
r0donly reason i have broacom card concept10 is because of intergration reasons08:18
concept10well I need to know so I could help you08:18
r0dconcept10, i dont need help bro08:18
r0dits johnclark08:18
johnclarkbelkin wireless g desktop card08:18
hangfireyes, will someone tell me about ati?08:18
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brennersomeone has08:18
tritium!ati08:19
ubotuati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358908:19
concept10johnclark, with a broadcom chipset?   I need to know model number08:19
concept10johnclark, lspci08:19
hangfirethanks08:19
peejmount /lost+found /dev/hdb1  if you have a linux hdb lying around. This is just to stop lost and found writing over the first 32MB and messing things up further, but I don't know if it is necessary actually.08:19
johnclarkunknown device 4318 rev 0208:19
concept10johnclark, what about the actual model number of the card?08:20
peejamonkey: hda is your current drive. Another physical drive which you physically insert in would be hdb or hdc or hdd etc.08:20
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brennerjohnclark: update-pciids08:20
johnclarkcrap, i'm lost08:21
concept10johnclark, you dont know the model number of the card you bought?08:21
brennerjohnclark: update-pciids will give you more recent lspci entries08:22
johnclarkok, i just installed ubuntu on another pc08:22
johnclarkdidn't detect my wireless card08:22
peejjohnclark: I think you are somewhere in Anaheim.08:23
johnclark:P08:23
johnclarkgimme a sec to figure out the card model and chipset08:23
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kameronhow do i change my dns in firefox?08:24
brennerofftopic: did the mighty ducks take their name off the movies, or did they have it originally?08:24
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timfrostkameron, you can't change it in firefox.  You need to change /etc/resolv.conf, which is a system file.  What do you actually want to do?08:25
kamerontimfrost, test my friends dns for him.08:26
hangfirewell from reading this how-to I think using the default ubuntu ATI driver is the safest way08:26
r0dkameron, use dig08:26
tritiumhangfire: if you don't need 3d, then stick with the default08:26
kameronr0d, is that a front end to /etc/resolv.conf ?08:26
Tomcat_brenner: As I said, I have never worked with these settings... I only know about the vertical scroll speed, and that these options exist. :P08:26
hangfirebut I do need 3D, how can a ati driver not have 3D support?08:27
hangfireI do 3D graphics08:27
r0dkameron, its a program you use to get dns entries from spefic dns servers08:27
tritiumhangfire: by it not being implemented08:27
r0dor nslookup08:27
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timfrostkameron, use dig @his.name.server <DNS queries> should work.08:27
tritiumhangfire: if you need 3d, you'll need to follow the wiki page to install fglrx08:27
r0dalot easier to do that way instead of wrecking your resolv.conf file, unless you know what your doing08:28
hangfireok, thanks tritium, Ill take a look08:28
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Nameeater!xgl08:28
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/08:28
n00bhey guys08:28
n00bi  can't install a login manager from art.gnome.org08:28
n00bwhy is that08:28
kamerontimfrost, okay.08:28
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brennern00b: dunno, how are you doing it?08:30
n00bdw i got it working brenner08:30
smorenoahola pibes08:31
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cookuhello there08:31
smorenoawhat?08:31
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cookuriveting convo here08:32
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Kyo127.0.0.1 is local host right?08:34
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kamerontimfrost, r0d, i'm still not totally clear on how do use dig. i want to set my dns to 12.23.34.45 and check what www.foo.com resolves to. how would i do this with dig?08:34
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rikieharlow08:35
Harp127.0.0.1 is indeed localhost08:36
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r0dkameron, how so, the syntax timfrost gave you should work08:39
kameronhmm r0d08:39
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r0dkameron, "man dig" will explain more08:39
kamerontrue.08:39
r0ddo you just want a single entry kameron08:39
kameronuhh i suppose r0d ?08:40
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moodogMorning all.08:41
kameronevening moodog08:41
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r0dkameron, I not totally sure what you want to do. are you trying to use your friends dns server, and not your ISP's for dns?08:42
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rikiehia08:42
r0dkameron, like trying to access websites using his dns server08:42
cookumorn moo dog08:42
kameronr0d, i think so.08:43
redbladeHi, does anyne know how I can set up a webserver?08:43
r0dkameron, I think you guys need a better game plan first and understand how dns works before you do that08:43
Madpilot!tell redblade about lamp08:44
r0dkameron, use dig to see individual entires(example www.foo.com=12.2.33.2)08:44
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kameronr0d, okay, i think that's what i'm lookign for.08:44
r0dk, go nutz then kameron08:45
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grodiuscan i get a link to some nice repostiroeis??08:45
Madpilot!repos08:45
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:45
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Madpilotgrodius: ^^^08:45
kameronr0d, i understand what dns is and how it works, i've just never queried a dns server other than the one i'm assigned to through dhcp.08:45
grodiusthx08:45
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Madpilotand with that, I need sleep - later, all08:45
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r0dkameron, is your friends dns server registered, or do you have to connect to it w/ an ip address?08:48
kameronip r0d08:48
r0dk kameron right now im looking for an easier dns tool for you. one w/ a gui08:49
OmegaAlphaanyone familar with the xf86.config file?08:49
kameronr0d, hah, yayyy, gui08:49
redbladesorry, I know you said abount lamp but just to be sure I should specify what I meant08:49
r0dkameron, did you try "dig <ip add>"?08:49
kameronr0d, no, i got it working though just now!08:49
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r0dkameron, cool08:50
Angel_Dexwhen i killall ESD i loose system sounds why is this TT_TT08:50
rakeshhi08:50
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rakeshtel hw to install ymessenger08:51
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redbladeI need something that wil set up a site like www.qwerty.net:100808:51
redbladeor something08:51
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redbladeI have a friend who set one up and I want to set one up08:52
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r0ddoes anyone know whats going on w/ the google ubuntu?08:52
Angel_Dexwhen i killall ESD i loose system sounds why is this TT_TT08:52
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aaron_how would i set the version of gcc i want to use to a previous version?08:54
aaron_like for example i need to compile wine with a version of gcc less than 408:54
aaron_i have 3.4 on my system08:54
aaron_how would i use that instead of 4?08:55
liquidindianHello!  If I use qparted to set up a vfat partition on my drive, how likely is it that the files already on the drive will be wiped?08:55
timfrostkameron, r0d may nt find a linux GUI tool.   The command 'dig +norec @12.23.34.45 www.foo.com any ' will report what (if any) entries if any) are held at nameserver 12.23.34.45, for the name www.foo.com. Note that this includes cache records if applicable08:55
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kameronokay, good to know timfrost08:56
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nomopofomocrap08:56
nomopofomoi need to compile wine with a version of gcc less than 4 and i have 3.4 installed on my system... how would i chagne the version of gcc to use?08:57
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liquidindian!qtparted08:57
ubotuliquidindian: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:57
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paquindoes any1 has troubles in breezy with atheros wireless??08:58
monziean off topic question: what are the job oppurtunites for Ubuntu packagers/maintaners?08:58
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r0dtimfrost, actually i did, but for kde. its gnetutil08:59
Angel_Dexmeh TT_TT08:59
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r0ddig is still the best, if you know how to use it correctly09:00
paquindoes any1 has troubles in breezy with atheros wireless??09:00
liquidindianDoes partitioning a drive set aside actual areas of the disk, or just that a certain amount of the disk is seperate?  Are disks written to in a random way?09:00
Angel_Dexhow do i switch things to alsa such as system sounds and gaim?09:00
r0dkameron, if you don't mind install qt files to use it, that will work09:00
bliss_hi all09:00
r0dAngel_Dex, that is the default09:01
malvwhat laptop makers specifically cater to linux users?09:01
kameronr0d, i have kde/qt stuff installed. what's will work?09:01
malvat least more so than the rest?09:01
bliss_net some help with ssh conection can connect fron localhost to my box but not from outside here is what netstat says   localhost:ssh           localhost:32821         ESTABLISHED09:01
bliss_bliss tcp        0      0 localhost:32821         localhost:ssh           ESTABLISHED09:01
timfrostr0d, good to know.09:01
kameronr0d, gnetutil?09:01
Angel_Dexr0d but i think mine is using esd cuz when i killall esd i loose system sounds09:01
r0dgnetutil kameron09:01
bliss_ does this mean I must point port 22 to 3282109:01
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monziedoes Ubuntu strive to be a complete OS aka Debina and FreeBSD?09:02
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basicyes09:02
basicubuntu is a person09:02
timfrostbliss_, no.  What does09:02
basicstriving for perfection09:02
r0dAngel_Dex, try alsamixer?09:02
timfrostbliss_, 'netstat -at | grep 22 ' show?09:03
Angel_Dexr0d how do i obtain this?09:03
apakattanyone know if its possible to join multiple channels with password in xchat-gnome, it joins the first channels but stops after the first one with password?09:03
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dupsHello. I am about to try and install java. I see two links. one is Linux RPM and the other is just Linux. Whats the difference between the two?09:03
r0dAngel_Dex, i know there is a gui sound program in the gui. someone her who uses the gui should know Angel_Dex but i use alsa mixer in bash to find my settings09:04
timfrost!java09:04
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:04
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r0dAngel_Dex, in the command prompt type "alsamixer"09:04
bliss_timefrost I will check09:04
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timfrost!javadebs09:04
r0dgod i hate being stuck on a windoze box09:05
timfrost!javadebs09:05
dupsthanks. Quick question #2. What's a shortcut key to open my terminal?09:05
Angel_Dexr0d ah the regular mizer is alsa i did not know Hmm im so lost09:05
malvif you ever decide to buy a laptop, stay clear of toshiba. I purchased one and it locks up due to bodily statics09:06
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malvit sucks with ubuntu as well09:06
eclair[busy] dups: on gnome you could press alt-f2 then run gnome-terminal09:06
dupsk09:06
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tritiummalv: that's not true of all Toshibas09:06
nomopofomois it possible to figure out what version of gcc was used to compile a certain program?09:06
malvi dunno, being dissapointed with this product is an understatement09:06
eclair[busy] dups: you could also go try ctrl-alt-f209:07
bur[n] erdups: or make one for the term... system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts09:07
malvand the fact they replaced my laptop with another one that has the same problem makes me really despise them09:07
malvthey even have a class action lawsuit on them for it09:07
dupsexcellent - thanks09:07
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malvit took them over a 5 months to recognize the issue that nearly everyone was having09:08
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malvand that was so painfully obvious09:08
malvanyways, sorry for being off topic, but if I can prevent just one person from buying a toshiba and putting ubuntu on it, I can die a happy man09:09
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bliss_timefrost does not show anything just comes back to root prompt09:10
Angel_DexTT_TT damn you ubuntu! gimme none conflicting sounds09:10
monziewhat are the ubuntu packages required to build .deps?09:11
monziewhat are the ubuntu packages required to build .debs?09:11
malvcheckinstall?09:11
malvdebs?09:11
malvnm09:11
monzieno real ones malv09:11
topylimonzie: search google for the "debian new maintainers guide"09:12
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tritiummonzie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources09:12
Angel_Dexseriusly why the hell cant i get my sounds to work with eachother?09:12
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tritiumAngel_Dex: calm down09:13
Angel_Dexits pissing me off tho09:13
Angel_Dexlots09:13
bliss_timefrost shall I try another command09:13
Angel_Dexi been trying since i installed ubuntu09:13
malvwhat player?09:14
Angel_Dexme?09:14
malvyea09:14
malvif they are all using esd, there shouldn't be a problem09:14
Angel_Dexwell09:14
abhayksis ther a simple way to create deb ?09:14
GlumJesterDoes anybody know how to find what driver I'm using for my wireless card?09:14
Angel_Dexi switchted to alsa for my games09:14
malvlspci?09:15
malvsorry, lsmod09:15
Angel_Dexi need to killall esd to get sound with um but then i loose like all the other sounds including system sounds09:15
dupsafter 5 minutes of head scratching as to why I cannot go to my darn Desktop folder I notice the uppercase D ... damn my windows mentality :P09:15
Jivenixi set to uninstall evolution adn synaptic says its going to uninstall the ubuntu desktop09:16
malvyea, that's a problem09:16
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malva lot of games use oss, and I am not totally sure there is a clean solution09:16
Angel_Dexmalv Zsnes is my main concern09:17
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malvhmm, I have similar troubles myself09:17
Angel_Dexmhm09:17
malvyou can tell esd to go into spawn mode09:18
Angel_Dexmeaning?09:18
malvit spawns when you need it and releases alsa when its done09:18
fekmoin09:18
Angel_Dexto get sound with Zsnes i need esd killed and to get system sounds and gaim sounds i need esd09:18
malvedit /etc/esound/esd.conf09:18
malvchange auto_spawn to 109:18
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bliss_timefrost same with webmin on port 10000 can acess from local host but not outside here is what grep says tcp        0      0 *:10000                 *:*                     LISTEN09:19
malvif that doesn't work, try disabling the "sound for events" option in gnome preferences09:19
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raidhey all I need help with wireless device installation09:20
Angel_Dexit is one09:20
Angel_Dexbut it never spwns09:20
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bliss_timefrost iwill ask in forum09:21
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missmarplehi there09:21
malvso if you use something like xmms with the esd plugin, it will not work?09:21
AM3Xhelloooo09:21
malvodd09:21
AM3Xanyone know about pctel modems?09:22
missmarplei have an Intel 82815 CGC video chipset, can i get 3D accel from it our am i lost?09:22
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missmarpleas in only ati or nvidia has 3 D accel?....09:23
raidon sudo ifup command i get: /etc/network/interfacs: 24: too few parameters for iface line ifup:couldn't read interfaces file " etc/network/interfaces" can someone help me?09:23
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Angel_Dexmalv Ho hum im so lost V.V i switched to alsa and everything works like xmms gaim system sounds but when i need to play a game i need esd killed then i loose gaim and system sounds09:25
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malvhmmm, if I disable system sounds I do not have that problem09:26
malvI just cant play any music while using zsnes09:26
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Angel_Dexmalv same09:27
OmegaAlpha/usr/X11R6/include <-- does anyone have that directory on their system?09:28
malvyea, sorry, you can try esddsp, but it gives me weird sound corruptions09:28
Angel_DexAngel_Dex right now i got Zsnes sound esd is dead but no system sound09:28
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K-Richcan someone share their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file with me?09:30
malvapt-get install esound-clients09:30
Angel_Dexmalv ?09:30
malvtry running zsnes with "esddsp zsnes"09:30
Angel_Dexmalv Ho hum how do i change Gaim from using ESD? to alsa or oss?09:31
Angel_Dexmalv what is esddsp?09:31
OmegaAlphacan someone check to see if they have this directory, if so, does it contain a subdir. "GL"?09:31
malvjust a wrapper to make it work with esd09:31
OmegaAlpha/usr/X11R6/include09:31
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malvprobably by recompiling it09:32
malvheh, but you are trying to mix sounds right?09:32
Angel_Dexmalv ok installed how do i run Zsnes with it?09:32
malvesddsp zsnes09:32
raidon sudo ifup command i get: /etc/network/interfacs: 24: too few parameters for iface line ifup:couldn't read interfaces file " etc/network/interfaces" can someone help me?09:32
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ipoderOmegaAlpha: no I don't09:33
K-Richcan someone share their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file with me?  i messed up yelp installing firefox 1.5 today09:34
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OmegaAlphaipoder, thanks for searching. Any others?09:34
OmegaAlphaother people that is?09:34
Angel_Dexnope very delayed slow sound09:34
asdffasfis there an ubunt-hr chanell outhere?09:35
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steve60hi there09:36
mustard5hey steve6009:36
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Seveasasdffasf, there's supposed to be one 09:36
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steve60i've just installed this 3d desktop doe's anyone know how to turn it on09:36
OmegaAlphaipoder,  can you check your /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa09:37
boscosteve60, go to your termanel and type in 3ddesk09:37
Angel_Dexmalv oh well looks like i cant have my cake and eat it too no?09:37
malvhmm, i can't attest to that09:37
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malvi am having both09:37
boscoif you want to make a hot key for it then you can do so as well and if you want to add it to your starterbar then if you want to you can09:38
boscoif you have one09:38
Angel_Dexmalv XP ho hum09:38
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steve60bosco thx09:38
OmegaAlphasteve60, what 3d desktop is it09:38
malveven xp is no perfect os =)09:38
K-Richcan someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy09:38
boscosteve60 thank you09:38
steve60one i got by apt-get09:38
steve60just says 3d desktop09:38
th3manMan!! Ubuntu an Elive (E17) Rocks......09:39
Angel_Dexmalv atleast it has working sound with no conflicts TT_TT09:39
boscosteve60 it just says 3d desktop09:39
bosco?09:39
K-RichAnyone? Someone? Please?09:39
steve60bosco it says a three dimensional desktop switcher09:40
steve60which uses openGL09:40
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Angel_Dexhow do i restart esd09:40
OmegaAlphaThe program is rather memory-hungry and it is CPU intensive, but it's09:40
OmegaAlphaaccessible from the command line, which makes it perfect for show09:40
OmegaAlphafloors and impressing your non-UN*X-using friends.09:40
OmegaAlphahaha09:40
boscosteve60, then you have to have opengl installed or you have to enable it09:40
steve60i got all the drivers installed and there enabled09:41
mustard5steve60, apparently you move stuff around with the arrow keys?09:41
steve60it's working now09:41
steve60yeah pretty kewl stuff09:41
mustard5:)09:41
boscosteve60, then you havent actually opened it then09:41
steve60i have09:41
mustard5I've been contemplating trying it myself today :)09:41
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steve60the screen just when small and 4 screens came up in like a cube and i could rotate them09:42
steve60and select a screen09:42
paquin_steve how did you make that 3d desktop work??09:42
paquin_i think i downloaded it09:42
boscosteve60,  that is what 3ddesk is09:42
paquin_on synaptic09:42
steve60at it's working09:43
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boscoif you use ubuntu then it should already be installed09:43
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steve60bosco, do you know any cool appz to get for ubuntu09:43
mustard5steve60, if you like 3ddesktop you might light gdesklets too09:43
boscosteve60, gnomesword2 one sec i have some more for you09:43
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steve60paquin_,  i installed it off synaptic09:44
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robinl1hmm..09:44
robinl1my package wants to install python 2.309:44
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robinl1but i have a newer version09:44
robinl1:(09:44
paquin_ok09:44
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robinl1De volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen genstalleerd worden:09:45
robinl1  eterm kahakai libast2 python2.309:45
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robinl1robin@robin-yagj0uj5m:~/Mijn downloads/kahakai-0.6.2$ python -V09:45
robinl1Python 2.4.209:45
robinl1:(09:45
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K-Richcan someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy09:46
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steve60bosco whats gnomesword2 mate09:46
steve60tell ya what is cool dopewars on here09:47
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boscosteve60, gnomesword2 is a bible manager and it is a very good one i might add09:47
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robinl1my package wants to install python 2.3, but i have a newer version, (trying to install kahakai from a deb source) - how to fix this?09:47
boscosteve60, it is a bible on your computer09:47
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nomopofomoin terminal wine is giving me 4 "err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!" errors and also saying "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly." anyone know what that's about? how would i go about setting $DISPLAY correctly, and what does it do?09:47
steve60anything else thats good09:47
abu09:47
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Rodhi09:48
raidon sudo ifup command i get: /etc/network/interfacs: 24: too few parameters for iface line ifup:couldn't read interfaces file " etc/network/interfaces" can someone help me?09:48
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boscosteve60,  i would recomend getting some sort of movie player like mplayer09:48
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steve60morning rod09:48
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steve60i got xine09:48
steve60and mplayer09:48
steve60and beep-media-player09:49
steve60and streamtuner09:49
boscosteve60,  then you are good to go there09:49
steve60hehe09:49
hatake_kakashi!enter09:49
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!09:49
steve60what about a good FPS multiplayer game09:49
steve60whats about09:49
boscosteve60,  the original UT09:49
steve60"slaps head" i threw that away 2 weeks ago09:50
Rodi got here 6 avi files, each 600mb. Tohether they are one big recorded seminar. These 6 files are pretty bad quality. How can I convert this to SVCD and get these seperate files converted to be 4.7GB in total?09:50
steve60bought it like 4 yrs ago never played so i chucked it09:50
hatake_kakashiRod: videohelp09:50
boscosteve60,  it is one of the best games and the only one that i mess with playing but give me a sec and i will have some more for you09:51
steve60bosco thx09:51
K-Richcan someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy09:51
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robinl1..09:51
robinl1do you guys LIKE ignoring me?09:52
robinl1my package wants to install python 2.3, but i have a newer version, (trying to install kahakai from a deb source) - how to fix this?09:52
boscosteve60, anytime09:53
hatake_kakashirobinl1: is it source or binary?09:53
Rodhatake_kakashi, videohelp?09:53
hatake_kakashiRod: google it, its a site that gives you info and stuff about your query09:53
Rodokay, thank you09:53
steve60is there a googleearth for ubuntu09:53
hatake_kakashiRod: np09:53
boscosteve60,  yes there is09:54
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robinl1hatake_kakashi: binary09:54
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hatake_kakashirobinl1: get the source and try compiling it from there, it may work, it may also not work09:54
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boscosteve60,  my friend just got done making it work in gentoo but he used wine so if you use wine the you should be allright he tricked his labtop into thinking he was running windows xp09:55
robinl1hatake_kakashi: haha that doesnt work, need some dependencies09:55
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hatake_kakashirobinl1: such as?09:55
steve60bosco nice09:55
boscosteve60,  with full compadibility i might add09:55
robinl1checking for swig... no09:55
robinl1configure: error: cannot find 'swig' program09:55
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hatake_kakashirobinl1: you need to get those individual files, off the repos if theres any or google around09:56
steve60just installing wine now09:56
monziehow do i upgrade to dapper drake09:56
OmegaAlphacan sum1 check yer /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?09:56
monzieit's fine if the machine is not stabel09:56
monziestable09:56
boscosteve60,  but if you want i can give you some info later on how he did it or here in the next couple of weeks you can get the linux version09:56
steve60im not doing to bad seeing as i only crossed over to ubuntu about 5 days ago09:56
asdffasfBest gnome game for online play09:57
boscosteve60,  what did you run before Fedora Core09:57
monziehelp of upgrading from breezy to dapper please09:57
steve60lol09:57
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steve60bosco, windows xp09:57
hatake_kakashi!tell monzie about dapper09:57
boscosteve60,  wow09:57
steve60yeah i know09:57
boscosteve60,  so how do you like ubuntu09:57
hatake_kakashimonzie: its on their web if you want to add it in the repos09:57
steve60bosco, Sh**hot09:57
boscosteve60,  do you like graphical backgrounds09:58
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steve60bosco, runs this system like it should do09:58
asdffasfsome easy game for playing online, please=09:58
steve60bosco, hell yeah09:58
steve60asdffasf, try bsflag09:58
steve60asdffasf, BZflag09:58
boscosteve60, well then your best bet is to E1609:58
steve60multiplayer tank game09:58
steve60bosco, el6 whats that09:58
hatake_kakashiEnlightment09:58
boscosteve60,  it is Enlightment09:59
steve60oh right09:59
hatake_kakashiits another WM/DE09:59
steve60not got that background09:59
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steve60just got Gnome09:59
candyman`Why not E17?09:59
monzieE17 rocks09:59
candyman`...I mean, aside from the fact that it's not done yet09:59
boscosteve60,  i would tell you to run E17 but if you dont know what you are doing then it is not stable yet t09:59
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candyman`That's never stopped anyone before09:59
boscocandyman`,  that is shy09:59
boscowhty10:00
liableubuntu has e17?10:00
candyman`not really10:00
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candyman`You can make it work10:00
candyman`It's like saying Ubuntu has Xgl support10:00
boscoliable, you could run e17 in ubuntu because i am10:00
steve60bosco, im getting that good i even started giving help on this now hehe10:00
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abuapt-get update10:01
ScoTTiehey10:01
steve60just have to get use to installing stuff via command rather then just point and click like in windows10:01
glickwhats e17?10:01
ScoTTieafter installed dapper (and previously breezy) my system locks up after a few seconds once X is launched..10:01
hatake_kakashiglick: read above10:01
boscosteve60,  if you want to try and run E17 go for it but not all of the things work yet so i would recomend getting used to E16 then Going to E1710:01
ScoTTieanyone heard of similar problems ?10:01
K-Richhow can i stop a package from downloading/installing ?10:02
steve60bosco, i'll stick with EL6 seeing as it sounds stable10:02
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candyman`E17 == new version of the Enlightenment desktop manager10:02
hatake_kakashiK-Rich: what program?10:02
steve60bosco, i just gotta find it first10:02
boscosteve60,  E16 is stable out of the box and very stable10:02
tdohello10:02
K-Richfirefox... i upgraded to 1.5 now the old one want to reinstall10:02
steve60bosco, i think i gotta install this el6 though cause it does not come up in the login screen just gnome there10:03
boscosteve60,  go to get-e.org and read about it and E17 if you want to10:03
tdoif I right click on an iso and do Write to Disc... is it going to burn the image to the disc, or just as a file on the disc?10:03
buddhiwhat is irc chat?10:03
buddhiI am from the previous century I am sorry10:03
hatake_kakashiK-Rich: its under download manager10:03
buddhihello10:03
buddhitrying to install wine on ubuntu10:03
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buddhisomehow synaptic is not able to install it10:04
boscosteve60,  or just join the #e room either way that will help you transition correctly10:04
aeolisthello everyone10:04
K-Richhatake_kakashi: where under download manager?10:04
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ibhI have a question about ubuntu10:04
hatake_kakashiK-Rich: if you were downloading stuff through firefox, its download manager10:04
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aeolisti have 2 partitions with data on them, the filesystem is ext3... is it possible to merge them without losing the data?10:04
AM3Xey how do i install GCC on my ubuntu?10:04
fred__yes ibh10:04
K-Richhatake_kakashi: apt keeps trying to get it10:05
ibhWhen you install Ubuntu, can you keep Windows and all other applications already installed?10:05
glickAM3X, dev-tools10:05
steve60bosco, i was under the impression that you could only run gnome and the kubuntu could run kde + what ever10:05
hatake_kakashi!tell AM3X about build-essential10:05
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glickheh yeah thats it10:05
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glickbuild-essentials10:05
fred__AM3X, sudo apt-get install build-essentials10:05
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ibhfred__?10:05
hatake_kakashiK-Rich: trying to get packages? Ctrl+C should stop it10:05
AM3Xoh ic thanks to you all10:05
AM3X!gcc10:06
ubotumethinks gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'10:06
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K-Richi want to permanently stop it10:06
AM3X^_^10:06
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candyman`gcc == gnu compiler collection10:06
hatake_kakashiK-Rich: killall apt-get10:06
fred__ibh, ask ur question10:06
candyman`or Green Hills compiler collection10:06
ibhWhen you install Ubuntu, can you keep Windows and all other applications already installed?10:06
K-Richlol nm... i still want to upgrade other packages10:06
hatake_kakashiibh: yes10:06
fred__ibh, yes10:06
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ibhcool. Roughly, how much space does ubuntu take up?10:07
steve60bosco, how'd i install this el6 then??10:07
kerrianGreetinge everyone10:07
boscosteve60,  if you are running ubuntu and E16 then you are still running ubunutu just with a different manager it is like running windows but a dirrerent verson like xp ccmpared to home edition they are dffernt10:07
hatake_kakashiibh: ~4GB, more info is on the website, go check it out10:07
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ibhok, cool, thanks10:07
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kerrianI'm fairly new to the Linux world, Ubuntu is my first foray into it10:08
mustard5welcome kerrian :)10:08
kerrianthanks :)10:08
kerrianso far it's been a relatively painless process10:09
boscosteve60,  allrigt go to get-e.org and read up on it and it will tell you how to nstall e16 and e17 if you want to10:09
kerrianvery different from the OS I use on my gaming computer10:09
mustard5kerrian, thats good to hear..you must have mostly hardware that likes linux :)10:09
glicktime for bed10:09
glickg'nite10:09
OmegaAlphacan sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?10:09
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steve60bosco,  thx10:09
kerrianno idea, this is an old Compaq peice of crap I bought for messing around witgh10:10
kerriannot ure if it loaded proper video drivers or not, heh10:10
fred__guys10:10
kerrianthats one of my main concerns10:10
fred__im having a very strange problem with dpkg10:10
mustard5kerrian, do you know what type of graphics system you have onboard?10:11
boscosteve60,  you are welcome if you need any other help just let me no i started running every the same way you did ubuntu then e16 and now e17 then gentoo is my next progect10:11
mustard5kerrian, nvidia or ati?10:11
fred__im not able to install/remove/update any packages10:11
kerrianita not onboard10:11
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mustard5fred__, have you just installed?10:11
kerrianit's a Geforce MX440 64mb AGP card10:11
fred__mustard5, nope10:11
steve60bosco, that el has some nice rich eyecandy on there10:11
fred__the system is running fine10:11
kerriangood gods10:12
boscosteve60,  yes it does10:12
mustard5kerrian, I'll get ubotu to tell you about nvidia drivers...10:12
fred__this is what synaptic gives out: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libtasn1-2-dev_0.2.10-4ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: failed in buffer_read(fd)10:12
mustard5!tell kerrian about nvidia10:12
kerrianthis multiple tabbed OS is driving me mad10:12
kerrianI like it, but its hard to get used to, lol10:12
mustard5:)10:12
redbladehi, does nayone know of a good website for a fairly new Linux user trying to set up an apache web server?10:12
steve60bosco, the site only goes on about el7 i cant find where to download el610:13
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hatake_kakashiredblade: Apache HOWTO  .. google for it10:13
redbladek10:13
mustard5redblade, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP10:13
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fred__redblade, go on osnews.com and search in the archives about 'bsd web server' and ull get a good tutorial with the steps10:13
kerriangood gods10:13
boscosteve60,  there is e16 on there as well but give me one sec and i will tell you let me think how i did it10:13
kerrianusing this I feel like I did 11 years ago when I got my first computer10:14
kerrianlike I don't have a sweet clue how to run it, lol10:14
kerrianbut I'll learn10:14
steve60bosco,  can you get it via apt-get10:14
mustard5kerrian, thats a common feeling when people first start using linux :)10:14
boscoyes you can i just have to think of the right command10:14
steve60k#10:14
kerrianI said relatively new10:15
kerrianI ued to use Libranet 2.7 on my old labtob10:15
kerrianabout 2 years ago mind, so I've forgotten a lot of stuff10:15
mustard5kerrian, did you get the PM from ubotu on setting up nvidia?10:15
fred__and here is dpkg's output: (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.8- winehq-1_i386.deb (--unpack):10:15
fred__failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `libc6-i686': Invalid argumen t10:15
fred__Errors were encountered while processing:10:15
fred__/var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.8-winehq-1_i386.deb10:15
kerrianyeah10:15
fred__Processing was halted because there were too many errors.10:16
kerrianworking on it now10:16
fred__E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:16
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fred__this is bugging me and cant find anything about it on google10:16
steve60whats that10:16
fred__except a problem with someone had his date returned back to 1937 or something10:16
fred__for no known reason10:16
fred__he set the date back to 2005 and everything went fine..10:17
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fred__but my date is correct10:17
fred__tried resetting it but still nothing10:17
krzkrzkrzi have the install cd. do i need to be connected to the internet?10:18
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steve60bosco, dont worry about it10:18
boscosteve60,  if you go to this website is is self explanitory i cant think of the apt-get command so just go here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=210:18
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mustard5krzkrzkrz, ideally it would help for you internet connection to be detected and configured..but not necessary10:18
steve60bosco, i found it in the synaptic manager10:18
fred__krzkrzkrz, not really, u just need the internet to update and install newer software10:19
steve60bosco, im just installing it now10:19
ideafixhow do i install WOW in wine ?10:19
boscosteve60,  allright there are themes there if you need them as well10:19
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steve60yeah im installing them aswell10:19
foxpaulis it possible to see if processes are using a port?10:19
foxpaullistening on a port, even10:19
steve60basically if it said enlightenment next to it i marked it for install10:20
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boscoyah how do you install wow in wine i want to know as well10:20
steve60whats wow??10:20
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AM3X!kernel source10:20
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AM3X10:20
AM3Xwaaaaaaaah10:20
g-thunderbaby10:20
krzkrzkrzok ill connect the laptop to the internet once the distro is installed10:21
Chrisx1hey everytime i run a php script with mysql i get a mysql error i try to remove php + mysql i cant because i cant remove phpmyadmin any ideas??10:21
AM3Xi was trying to install driver for my modem it says no kernel source10:21
mustard5I see this thread on WOW and wine in the forums  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615&highlight=wow+wine10:21
AM3Xi was trying to install driver for my modem it says no kernel source found10:21
ideafixgreat10:21
ideafixthx10:21
AM3X!kernel10:21
AM3Xhow do i install kernel source?10:22
Chrisx1dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):10:22
Chrisx1 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 12710:22
Chrisx1any ideas?10:22
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mustard5krzkrzkrz, k..as I said..it might auto detect your connection and set it all up for you if you have it connected at install though...its up to you :)10:22
steve60bosco, im gonna go mooch around and see what i can get for this seeya laterz an thx again10:22
mustard5AM3X, you would install it through synaptic10:22
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matyas_zaHi10:23
boscosteve60,  that is the only way to is to mooch and thank you10:23
krzkrzkrzmustard5 would i be able to configure after installation though?10:23
AM3Xmustard5 do you have some readme on that?10:23
steve60bosco, np seeya10:23
krzkrzkrzmustard5 would it be much more difficult?10:23
matyas_zaI wanna change my update link what is the archive link again?10:23
ideafixe already installed <span class="highlight">wine</span> from the repositories, you will want to do a "complete removal" of it before continuing.<br>10:23
ideafixnstalled <span class="highlight">wine</span> from the repositories, you will want to do a "complete removal" of it before continuing.<br>10:23
ideafixsorry10:23
mustard5krzkrzkrz, sure..but if you've never used linux before..it might mean a bit of learning first :)10:23
ideafixi have to unistall wine 1st ?10:24
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mustard5krzkrzkrz, if you have another system to get online with I suppose its not a big issue10:24
OmegaAlphasteve60,  when you get enlightenment running can you tell me if your menus work when you right click10:24
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OmegaAlphacan sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?10:24
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AM3Xmustard5 do you have some readme on that?10:24
AM3Xdocumentation?10:24
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munti78i'm looking for an ftp client, anyone now of a good one?10:25
mustard5AM3X, I would search in synaptic for a package called linux-source and is for your current kernel10:25
g-thunderwie installiere ich von einer cd aus den treiber?10:25
kryptozwhen i try to mount a nfs share on another computer it gives me error "RPC Error: 15 ( Program not registered )"10:25
mustard5AM3X, your can find your current kernel version with the uname -r command10:25
munti78anyone?10:25
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AM3Xic thanks mustard510:25
OmegaAlphacan sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?10:26
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mustard5AM3X, for example I have this package in synaptic.... linux-source-2.6.1210:26
ideafixmustard5 isntalling wine for use with wow will make other windows programs not to work as expected ?10:26
mustard5AM3X, you might have a different kernel though...so check your kernel version first10:26
mustard5ideafix, I have no idea10:26
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AM3Xok thanks again mustard510:27
mustard5ideafix, I've never tried it myself..just found that thread :)10:27
ideafixhumm10:27
mustard5!de10:28
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de10:28
ideafixtheres an arabe hat there sould i be warry ?10:28
mustard5ideafix, that would be a turkish fez :)10:28
AM3Xi already know my kernel ver is 2.5.1210:28
ideafixis isntalling wine to use with wow some kind of terrorrist hack ?10:28
AM3Xi mean i already know my kernel ver is 2.6.1210:28
kerrianhow do |I find out if I'm running a 386 kerne; or 686 kernel?10:29
mustard5AM3X, can then you should install that package above then...10:29
OmegaAlphawhats this wow you are talking about10:29
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AM3Xmustard5 thanks10:29
ideafixworld of warcraft10:29
mustard5kerrian, type uname -r in terminal10:29
ideafixwhat else !?10:29
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OmegaAlphaoh yeah remember seeing that on wines site10:30
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mikelohey guys i gotta a problem with my video card10:30
OmegaAlphacan sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?10:30
mikeloall games are running slower10:31
OmegaAlphamikelo, so do i10:31
mikelodamn10:31
kerrianbe interesting to see what linux can really do10:31
ideafixwhy ?10:31
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kerriannever managed to get my video cards working before10:31
mustard5OmegaAlpha, your spelling nvidia wrong btw...I don't have a nvidia folder either10:31
OmegaAlphamustard5, haha didnt see that10:32
OmegaAlpha can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nvidia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?10:32
OmegaAlphathere we go10:32
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mustard5OmegaAlpha, in fact /user/x11R6/lib/ returns no such file or directory10:32
Mr_Milenkoback on broadband oh yeah10:32
Mr_Milenkolol10:32
mustard5OmegaAlpha, that was /usr/ btw..hehe..my turn for a typo :)10:33
ideafixtry uname -i10:33
ideafixkerrian:  try uname -i10:33
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kerrianbrb10:33
OmegaAlphamustard5,  i have an nvidia file there.. hmmm i wonder if thats why i keep getting the GLX extension error10:34
mustard5ideafix, there is no -i option for uname that I can see10:34
OmegaAlphaif i solve this problem.. ill be a hero in the linux community10:34
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mustard5OmegaAlpha, :)10:34
ideafixyes there is10:34
Chrisx1anyone around like to help me?10:34
ideafixuname -i10:34
ideafixi38610:34
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OmegaAlphamaybe they'll name a driver after me ;)~10:35
mikelono -i option found10:35
mustard5mustard@slave:~$ uname -i10:35
mustard5Try `uname --help' for more information.10:35
ideafixmustard5: there must be something broken with your distro10:35
Chrisx1Errors were encountered while processing:  phpmyadmin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:35
Mr_Milenkomustard!10:35
Mr_MilenkoBroadband :D10:35
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mustard5hey Mr_Milenko10:35
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boscoLOL10:35
boscoshine10:36
ideafixmustard5:  uname --version10:36
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ideafixwhats does it say ?10:36
OmegaAlpha can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nvidia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?10:36
mustard5ideafix, uname -r returns the kernel version10:36
Kerrianum, hate to be a bother, but I don't think it worked10:37
Chrisx1Errors were encountered while processing:  phpmyadmin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:37
Chrisx1Can Any1 Help With that ^^10:37
KerrianI followed the directionx exactly10:37
Mr_Milenkothats nice Chrisx110:37
mustard5ideafix, uname (coreutils) 5.2.110:37
Mr_Milenkorepeat it again10:37
Mr_Milenko:D10:37
Mr_Milenkoi dont think we saw it the last two times you pasted it10:37
Chrisx1oh lolz10:37
ideafixuname --version10:37
ideafixuname (GNU coreutils) 5.3.010:37
ideafixWritten by David MacKenzie.10:37
mustard5Kerrian, did you sudo nvidia-config enable?10:37
Chrisx1can somebody help plz?10:37
OmegaAlphamustard5, do you ever get an error when running apps something like lib: GLX extension missing for display.10:37
Kerrianand after doing the ctrl alt backspace, it brought me to a basic text interface10:37
ideafixmabey you need to upgrade coreutils10:37
Kerrianah ha10:38
doogluswhen I try to update, I see this: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.3.0svn+r19871-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips', which is also in package xfce4-toys".  I don't need xfce4 at all any more - can I somehow remove the conflicting packages?10:38
KerrianI did the sudo nvidia-glx-confix10:38
ideafixi ear there was some bug with does10:38
Kerrianno wonder it didn;t work10:38
ideafixthose10:38
Kerrianquestion: if I ran the proper command from this text interface its given me, would it still work?10:38
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doogluskameron: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from there10:39
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Tamoio_brhelloa ll10:39
Tamoio_br-*hello all10:39
dooglusKerrian: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from there10:39
mustard5Kerrian, try what dooglus said above10:39
Kerriank10:39
fred__anyone?10:39
Kerrianthis flavour of linux have autocomplete?10:39
mustard5Kerrian, yep10:39
OmegaAlphaanyone else in here get the GLX extension error10:40
Kerrianexcellent10:40
Kerrianone of my all time favourite utilities10:40
dooglusKerrian: Linux is a kernel, so no.  Some of the applications it runs have autocomplete.10:40
Kerriannext to apt-Get on Deb10:40
p0windahOmegaAlpha: using ATI ?10:40
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OmegaAlphap0windah, yes i am10:41
mustard5OmegaAlpha, I don't recall any errors like that10:41
Kerrianok, so now that I'm back in, run the proper command?10:41
mustard5OmegaAlpha, nothing that is a showstopper anyway10:41
Kerrianor go back through the entire process?10:41
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p0windahOmegaAlpha: good luck :)10:41
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dooglusKerrian: if you want to turn on full completion in the shell, edit .bashrc and uncomment the lines about bash_completion10:41
OmegaAlphap0windah, haha thanks im going to need it!10:41
matyas_zawhat is the link where i can find all the ubuntu packages?10:41
mustard5Kerrian, try doing it again I would say10:41
p0windahOmegaAlpha: unfortunately ATI has a notoriously bad reputation when it comes to Linux10:42
dooglusmatyas_za: http://packages.ubuntu.com/10:42
matyas_zathank you10:42
mustard5Kerrian, you might need the legacy drivers ..I'm not sure..its a pretty old card isnt it?10:42
ideafixeven in windows10:42
OmegaAlphaam i able to buy a new one for a laptop for cheap?10:42
ideafixi couldnt runn quake3 with ATI10:42
p0windahOmegaAlpha: a new video card ?10:42
matyas_zadooglus: isnt there one that starts with archive?10:43
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Kerrianhooray10:43
OmegaAlphap0windah, yes. with 3d graffix accelerator10:43
p0windahOmegaAlpha: not really, no10:43
Kerriandamn bash errors10:43
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dooglusmatyas_za: yes.  the packages site will link to it once you've searched for your package10:43
OmegaAlphacrapola10:43
ahelp download boot ubuntu to floppy10:44
Kerriangod I'm glad they got rid ot root passwords10:44
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Kerrianthose got annoying after entering them 30-40 times a day10:44
p0windahOmegaAlpha: and even if you could, there are 2 or 3 different ATI drivers, with each one implementing a different and limited range of features10:44
OmegaAlphahow much could i see a used 3 yr old laptop for10:44
OmegaAlphahaha10:44
OmegaAlphasell*10:44
matyas_zathanks10:44
PenYaiRhelp download floppydisk for ubuntu10:44
mustard5Kerrian, well its still go sudo password, but it usually remembers your password being entered for a time period10:44
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morphix:/10:45
morphixi have found out what my problem is with my hdds.10:45
doogluswhen I try to update, I see this: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.3.0svn+r19871-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips', which is also in package xfce4-toys".  I don't need xfce4 at all any more - can I somehow remove the conflicting packages?10:45
PenYaiRi comp no support cdrom10:45
morphixits cause i have Promise Technology IDE/SATA RAID controller built it10:45
Vartotojasdamn. wtf "hdd-mod-intel can't not found" ?\10:45
KerrianI just remembered something10:45
morphixand ubuntu doesnt support it fully10:45
p0windahdooglus: dpkg -P xfce410:46
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PenYaiRi need url for boot to floppy10:46
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dooglusp0windah: thanks10:46
Kerrianafter I put in that code dooglus gave me, for about half a second there was an Nvidia splashscreen10:46
morphixdoes anyone know how to compile the kernel modules for Promise Technology Controllers?10:46
mustard5Kerrian, thats good then :)10:46
mustard5Kerrian, its working10:46
Kerrianhow do I go check to make sure they loaded?10:46
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morphixi have been trying to do the usual thing with SuSE as i do with Ubuntu.. to install base then install fluxbox/openbox10:47
mustard5Kerrian, I would install nvidia-settings10:47
morphixits so screwed in SuSE lol10:47
mustard5Kerrian, that should allow you to play with brightness/contrast/gamma and would confirm10:47
Tamoio_brsomeone have ubuntu in one k6II 500mhz or PIII 500mhz???10:47
Kerriank10:47
mustard5Kerrian, the splash screen is pretty good confirmation though10:48
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KerrianI already installed it10:48
Kerrianduring thet howto10:48
dooglusp0windah: that has fixed it, thanks.10:48
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mustard5Kerrian, k...type nvidia-settings in terminal then to run it10:48
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Kerrianlooks like it worked10:49
mustard5Kerrian, well done :)  not too many hiccups with that one then10:49
KerrianI'm starting to see why people kept telling me to try Ubuntu10:49
Kerrianyou know, back when I was using Libranet, it took me a full 3 months to install my video drivers10:49
mustard5Kerrian, I can only imagine... :)10:50
p0windahyah, linux + video cards = huge head aches10:50
mustard5Kerrian, I've only been on linux since June last year...Ubuntu is my first distro10:50
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PenYaiRi need url for download bootdisk to floppy10:50
Kerrianespecially nvidia cards10:50
Chrisx1how do i read my log files?10:50
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PenYaiRhelp me10:50
p0windahChrisx1: tail -f /var/log/messages10:50
mustard5PenYaiR, the 'smartboot' how to?10:50
KerrianI don't spose I should hold out that my winsows based bgames work on ubuntu?10:50
Chrisx1tah10:50
Kerrianbgames = games10:50
p0windahKerrian: dont10:50
Kerrianbeen a really long night10:50
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p0windahKerrian: windows games are written for windows10:51
KerrianI know10:51
Kerrianbut didn't know if there was an emulation tool built into ubuntu10:51
pepsiwhere can i find info about the server installation? just the bare minimum i guess? but something explainging what the bare minimum ubuntu install actually _is_10:51
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mustard5p0windah, you mean the 'smartboot' how to for getting a CD to boot from floppy?10:51
PenYaiR<mustard5> PenYaiR, the 'smartboot' how to? <-- please paste url ?10:51
mustard5!smartboot10:51
ubotuwell, smartboot is If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto10:51
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NET||abuseHi all, i'm seriously interested in playing with Xgl and either compiz or something along those lines... I am that crazy/stupid to do it on my laptop :)10:52
Kerriangah, so tempted to play blackjack10:52
p0windahKerrian: wine works to a degree, but sound + video support in linux is generally flakey, and thats not something that is going to get fixed anytime soon either10:52
NET||abusewhere can i get the step by step to add it to my install? or is it easily installed with just dapper?10:52
mustard5Kerrian, a lot of stuff is covered in the Ubuntu Starter Guide in your help menu...under 'System'10:52
p0windahNET||abuse: go figure it out, then you can write the howto10:52
Kerrianits really a pity more game companiers don't make their games linus compatible10:53
elkbuntuNET||abuse, try looking on the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org10:53
mustard5Kerrian, I've still got win98se installed for windows games10:53
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PenYaiR!ping me10:53
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PenYaiR10:53
elkbuntuNET||abuse, someone might have figured it, i dont know.10:53
p0windahKerrian: a few companies have tried10:53
NET||abuseelkbuntu p0windah: cheers,10:54
mustard5PenYaiR, sorry ..it was an autocomplete error :)10:54
p0windahKerrian: and all gone under10:54
Kerrianis it true that unreal tournament is linux compliant?10:54
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mustard5PenYaiR, doh..I just realised I had the right nick in the first place10:54
NET||abuseelkbuntu p0windah: any idea if people have managed to get all features working alright? and my main concern is supporting my graphics card... i'm actually not too sure if fglrx will support it.. ATI mobility radeon 750010:55
PenYaiRtx friend10:55
PenYaiRtx all10:55
mustard5PenYaiR, did you get the url10:55
elkbuntuNET||abuse, what graphics card do you have?10:55
elkbuntuNET||abuse, oh, right10:55
redbladehi i'm trying to set up a lamp server10:55
p0windahNET||abuse: not sure, but why dont you try to get 3ddesktop working first - then give xgl and compviz a whack10:55
NET||abuseelkbuntu: ;) any clue if support is there for that card?10:55
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elkbuntuNET||abuse, there would be, however i'm not sure how. i do believe you might need kernel patches, but again i'm not sure. the forum will help you alot with that, as it's an ongoing issue with ubuntu afaik10:56
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steve60bosco, you there10:56
redbladebut for some reason apache is coming up with errors10:56
suspendedI try and apt-get install mplayer-586 but I get this error10:56
suspendedmplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable10:56
NET||abusep0windah: ok, i'm in a bit of a "ooh look at that" when i saw the demo video and now i would like to get my hands on it, so i didn't realise there was a 3d desktop coponent too... :S10:56
suspendedi have libdirectfb-0.9-2210:56
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suspendedbut not 2010:56
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Chrisx1Can anybody help me FOrce Removing PHPmyadmin ?10:56
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alumnoalumno10:56
HobbseeChrisx1: sudo aptitude purge packagename?10:57
p0windahNET||abuse: its not related to 3ddesktop, but if you cant get 3d working and 3ddesktop functional(which there *are* heaps of tutorials), you have no hope in hell of getting xgl and compviz working10:57
NET||abuseok, that's good to know, at least now i have a starting point to dig up on!10:58
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Chrisx1Hobbsee : /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found10:58
Chrisx1dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--purge):10:58
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NET||abusep0windah: i'm newish to geting components like that working; )10:58
steve60anyone know how to setup icons in el610:58
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p0windahNET||abuse: yeah, try and get 3ddesktop working, if thats cool on your machine, then try the tricky stuff :)10:58
NET||abusep0windah: but i'm stupid enough to keep trying and trying till it works10:58
Hobbseeer, pass10:58
elkbuntuNET||abuse, nothing wrong with stubborness10:59
p0windahNET||abuse: well if you have an ATI card, the signal/noise is quite bad10:59
NET||abuseelkbuntu p0windah: actually, if i can't get it workin on my laptop,, maybe i should try on my home desktop10:59
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elkbuntuNET||abuse, yup10:59
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NET||abusemy home pc is a amd 64 x2 3800+10:59
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NET||abusewith gainward nforce411:00
p0windahNET||abuse: theres probably atleast 20 different ways in the ubuntuforums you can "attempt" to get ATI working, none of which is comprehensive11:00
NET||abuseso what about gainward support, how would that fair?11:00
elkbuntuNET||abuse, p0windah and none of which work for every card ;)11:00
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MuLLeRwoah 606 users .. :)11:01
MuLLeRhey yall11:01
nlindbladmorning MuLLeR11:01
elkbuntuNET||abuse, p0windah on my dell optiplex g1 that has an ati card, it suffices for me to simply edit the config to make it use a lesser colour depth11:01
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p0windahI had to write the entire xorg.cong so I could get my dual head setup working, with each LCD using a different resolution11:02
Chrisx1whats wrong with this db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver11:02
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NET||abuseok, yeh, my graphics card at home is gainward geforce 7800GT11:02
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robinl1where can i get 3d applications like tdfsb and metisse and stuff? i mean where do i get a list of em?11:02
NET||abuseso would that be supported do you reakon?11:02
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p0windahturning on *some* features will crash my box, and theres nothing in any docs that will help you understand what may/may not crash...11:02
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MuLLeRhm .. someone can give me a hint .. how to boot WinXP from an SATA drive and Ubuntu from PATA? i used both lilo and grub ... lilo boots Ubuntu fine ... but XP bootstrap hangs .. oh .. and Ubuntu is on Ch1 .. Ch2...11:03
MuLLeR(XP Ch2)11:03
eobanbMuller, that's pretty much a windows problem, not an ubuntu problem11:04
MuLLeRyeah .. i know .. :)11:04
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eobanbi'm guessing you need the right SATA driver installed for windows.  windows sata support sucks11:04
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Chrisx1whats wrong with this db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver11:04
noppopeople, how to play Xvid movies?11:04
K-Richcan someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy11:05
NET||abusemost players will get the codecs11:05
NET||abusenoppo: you using xine?11:05
MuLLeReobanb: no.. XP boot-uped  fine before lilo .. :)11:05
noppoNET||abuse, totem11:05
NET||abuseI found xine more reliable in supporting encoding types11:05
ideafixarent they the same ?11:06
noppoNET||abuse, okay, installing xine11:06
eobanbMuLLeR, why exactly are you using lilo11:06
MuLLeReobanb: because when i used grub .. it bootup-ed only XP11:06
Chrisx1cany any1 help please!!!11:07
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hatake_kakashiMuLLeR: and what happened to the linux part?11:07
pepsihi there11:08
MuLLeRhatake_kakashi: it even didn't show the bootmenu...11:08
KenSentMeis there a problem with the update servers?11:08
MuLLeRstraight to XP boot11:08
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hatake_kakashiMuLLeR: that's not even grub11:08
eobanbMuller, you need to correctly configure grub.11:08
steve60does anyone know how to make the screen res small ing el611:08
K-Richcan someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy please ???11:09
eobanbsteve60, can you re-phrase that11:09
steve60does anyone know how to make the screen res small in enlightenment 611:09
eobanb'small'?11:09
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steve60sorry i can hardly read the text11:09
pepsiim growing tired of gnome, and i want to try something else, although im not interested in KDE, as it seems just as big and intrusive as gnome, if not more.. im not sure which aspect or component in particular i dont like.. id like to build a desktop environment myself instead of getting everything and the kitchen sink thrown at me at once11:09
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elkbuntupepsi, try xfce11:10
elkbuntupepsi, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:10
pepsielkbuntu, but if i install the xubuntu package, will that be everything and the kitchen sink for xfce?11:10
MuLLeRhatake_kakashi: i installed it both.. on hdc MBR and sda MBR .. :) ... and again straight to XP boot ...11:10
elkbuntupepsi, no, you'll get the choice at the login screen11:10
eobanbpepsi, xfce is rather stripped down to begin with.11:10
pepsiok11:10
eobanbsteve60, that's an xorg issue, not an enlightenment one11:10
elkbuntupepsi, just click the session icon in the bottom left corner and tell it what to use11:11
hatake_kakashiMuLLeR: which device does your pc first boot hard disk up? the SATA or the PATA?11:11
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pepsiim going to reinstall so that i dont have gnome littering itself all over.. do i do the bare minimum install? the server install? then install xubuntu-desktop?11:11
eobanbpepsi, there's no need to re-install the entire system.11:11
MuLLeRCDROM .. -> HDD -> CDROM ... (HardDisk -> PATA -> SATA)11:11
elkbuntupepsi, but install xubuntu-desktop first11:12
pepsieobanb, this is a broken dapper installation :) i really want to reinstall11:12
eobanbpepsi, in that case you would probably want the server install11:12
hatake_kakashiMuLLeR: then you should have GRUB installed on PATA not both11:12
elkbuntupepsi, then just delete unwanted gnomish bits as you find them11:12
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elkbuntueobanb, yah, it would probably suit him11:13
pepsiblah.. id rather it be clean to begin with so i dont have to look in ever nook and cranny to get rid of gnome11:13
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pepsiok11:13
Alexi5ubuntu or kubuntu11:13
Alexi5which one should i choose11:13
eobanbdepends on your preference...11:13
MuLLeRhatake_kakashi: i know ... but i can change HD bootup sequence ..11:13
pepsiya, you just gotta try them11:13
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MuLLeRhatake_kakashi: and it was installed on PATA11:14
eobanbi personally like gnome over kde, but honestly, there are big advantages and disadvantages to each.11:14
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elkbuntupepsi, server install shouldnt take long... in fact i've been planning a smilar path as you for my web server11:14
Alexi5i have limited bandwidth and ned a linux os to do some work11:14
hatake_kakashiMuLLeR: and btw, if it went straight to winxp without showing press Esc for menu, etc then you don't have GRUB installed properly11:14
elkbuntuAlexi5, does it have to be tonight, or can you wait a month for free cds to come from shipit?11:15
Alexi5i like kde11:15
eobanbAlexi5, do you appreciate a more clean and simple look and feel, or a more complex and sophisticated UI?11:15
Alexi5but i would like to know if it is stable to work with11:15
eobanbthey're both stable.11:15
morphixkde & gnome are equaly as boggy and crap11:15
pepsielkbuntu, ya i know, im just wondering what the <foo>-desktop packages really install though.. i dont want everything and the kitchen sink again, but ill install xubuntu-desktop and see how that is before i try to remove other stuff11:15
Alexi5which one has a more clean and simple11:16
eobanbprobably gnome.11:16
Alexi5ok11:16
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elkbuntupepsi well, you install xfce first, then if you find it not enough, do xubuntu-desktop and it'll fill in the missing pieces11:16
pepsikde lets you configure too much,a nd i could never seem to find a "boring" default theme11:16
cappizsomeone here using pftp?11:16
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eobanbelkbuntu, i wouldn't do that.11:16
elkbuntueobanb, why not?11:17
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pepsiim sure if i configured for a hwile id be able to get kde to look nice, but it seems to default to more bright-and-shiny stuff11:17
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Alexi5so kde has some great themes?11:17
elkbuntupepsi, kde is made to be eye-candy, that's why11:17
eobanbxubuntu-desktop is the preferred package for installing xfce.  otherwise it's a bit hard to set up.11:18
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eobanbAlexi5, both have nice themes.11:18
ArafangionCould anyone confirm that they can't resume from standby while not running X?11:18
pepsiya im just gunna install xubuntu-desktop so i can see how it feels before delving deep to set it up.. i might though11:18
Alexi5xubuntu11:18
pepsithanks a lot guys11:18
pepsi:)11:18
Arafangion(Rather, it resumes, but you can't see the screen)11:18
Alexi5it seems ubuntu is taking over the linux distro scene11:19
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elkbuntupepsi, have you more than one computer on the net?11:19
pepsielkbuntu, ya11:19
ArafangionAlexi5, As a long time debian dude, I would have to agree.11:19
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Alexi5ok11:19
matyas_zaa11:19
Alexi5rpms suck11:19
eobanbno argument there..11:19
elkbuntupepsi, we'll be here if you need to ask, then :)11:19
Alexi5right now i am on fedora11:20
pepsielkbuntu, im downloading the breezy iso still though.. i cant find the one i burnt :(11:20
morphixAlexi5: much agree'd11:20
ablomenAlexi5, amen brother11:20
Alexi5and i can't install certain applications or some ther programs might not work11:20
morphixi find everything else in ubuntu to be perfect11:20
morphixexcept 1 thing11:20
elkbuntuAlexi5, which fc?11:20
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Alexi5411:20
hatake_kakashifedora core11:20
Alexi5yeah11:20
elkbuntuAlexi5, fc is better11:20
elkbuntuerr11:20
hatake_kakashinm11:20
mikelohi i'm trying yo install the server version to a P1 machine but i get a problem mounting the cdrom11:20
elkbuntufc311:20
ArafangionAlexi5, You'll find that it's not just that the rpm's "suck", it's more the 'culture' of the distro.11:21
elkbuntuAlexi5, they stuffed up fc411:21
mikeloit boots fine11:21
Alexi5ok11:21
Alexi5yum is ok11:21
eobanbArafangion, true enough.11:21
ablomenthe whole rpms dependecy thing sucks, if you want rpms you should use suse11:21
Alexi5but i doesn't download some of the dependencies11:21
morphixsuse = i dont like11:21
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morphixyast or YOU sux11:21
elkbuntuAlexi5, yes, but i've heard this from numerous people... more people than i have digits to count on11:22
eobanband urpmi.11:22
Alexi5before we go into the distro war11:22
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hatake_kakashitalking rpm like that is like using dpkg, ever had to deal with dpkg and missing deps?11:22
ablomenno me neighter yast does let you download software in a apt get kinda way ;)11:22
hatake_kakashiapt-get is dpkg front-end, much like yum is for rpm's front-end11:23
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elkbuntuhatake_kakashi, i find dpkg dependancy errors at least easy to understand what's missing :)11:23
eobanbexcept the debian and ubuntu repositories are arguably superior11:23
morphixall i want is some way to get my Promise Technology IDE & SATA RAID onboard controller to work properly with ubuntu11:23
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Alexi5which desktop enviroment is good for a celeron 2.2GHZ with 768MB RAM11:23
morphixAlexi5: ever used Fluxbox or Openbox?11:23
eobanbthat's plenty fast enough to run either kde or gnome.11:23
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morphixvery lightweight11:23
ablomenAlexi5, gnome $ kde should run fine on that11:23
wasshagood day11:23
ArafangionThat reminds me, how the heck do I run certain programs whenever I login, on fluxbox?11:23
NET||abusewoohoooo...  My laptop is a rebranded G730 (from ECS) and it has Mobility Radeon 7500 (with 64MB dedicated ram). I think that's similar to M7 (I could be wrong). And with ATI's proprietary driver, it runs pretty well (for gaming).11:24
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elkbuntuAlexi5, you should have no probs with any DE on that11:24
hatake_kakashielkbuntu: meh, some compare rpm to apt-get which is completely different11:24
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wasshaanother day another noob problem11:24
ArafangionI'm trying to use gnome-volume-manager11:24
NET||abusethat's a snipit from forums... yay.. mobility 7500 works ;)11:24
wassha:)11:24
morphixArafangion: ~/.fluxbox/init11:24
Chrisx1How do i clear aptitude from wanting to delete some files11:24
Alexi5ok11:24
elkbuntuhatake_kakashi, similar concept though11:24
Alexi5i feel i might go with kde11:24
mwillisI am trying to set up a minimal dev station.  Do you know any install tutorials I can use?11:24
Arafangionmorphix, I thought that was just a configuration file?11:24
hatake_kakashielkbuntu: similar but not exactly, its like yum vs. dpkg11:24
elkbuntuhatake_kakashi, hence the confusion. apples and oranges are both fruit, but they're nothing alike other than that ;)11:24
Arafangionmorphix, It doesn't look anything like a shell script.11:24
tenneehello11:24
KenSentMewhat is the best way to make Windows startup as default? Should i use saved or default under 'default num'  in menu.lst11:24
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thegladiatoris there a nautilus extention that lets me open files with root access ?11:25
morphixArafangion: you specify in there what stuff u want to load up with fluxbox11:25
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Alexi5does ubuntu have good documentation11:25
thegladiatorAlexi5, yes11:25
morphixbest i can find lol11:25
eobanbas good as any.11:25
thegladiator!doc11:25
ubotudoc is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read11:25
tenneehello folks11:25
paquini need help with 3d desktop11:25
paquini can't make it work11:25
hatake_kakashielkbuntu: no no, you don't see my point, rpm doesn't do deps just like dpkg, both whinge if deps are missing. apt-get and yum are basically the ones that deals with them and providing deps, etc making life easier11:25
ablomenore just the help button i the menu ;)11:25
nathanjanyone have any idea how to get azureus working with a 604T router?11:25
thegladiatorubotu, tell Alexi5 about doc11:26
paquinpls??11:26
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thegladiatoris there a nautilus extention that lets me open files with root access ?11:26
Arafangionmorphix, So, just "gnome-volume-manager", along with all the "session.screen0.overlay.lineStyle: LineSolid" stuff?11:26
eobanbpaquin, what do you need help with, exactly?11:26
elkbuntuAlexi5, not only best documentation, best community support ;)11:26
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paquini cant make it work11:26
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paquinI assigned it to alt <f3>11:26
eobanbpaquin, what are you trying to do...explain it very precisely, please11:26
ablomenthegladiator, sudo nautilus /home/11:26
paquinok11:26
morphix!tell Arafangion about fluxbox11:26
Alexi5so i guess kubuntu does have this much support?11:26
thegladiatori am downloading  kernel 2 6 12 10 2811:27
elkbuntuablomen, i dont think that's what he meant11:27
paquinI already installed 3ddesktop11:27
thegladiatorablomen, thats what I normally do...looking for a nautilus extention11:27
paquinand followed every step on wiki to make it work11:27
thegladiatorso that I can avoid doing that every time11:27
paquinbut11:27
KenSentMewhat does the savedefault option do in grub?11:27
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paquinit doesn't work at all11:27
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Arafangionmorphix, I've just never done it via that file, that's all.  Normally I edit .xinitrc, however if I'm not running X, for some wierd reason, my standby goes kupult.11:28
ablomenthegladiator, well if it exist it will still mean youd have to use your root password11:28
paquinmy nvidia driver is working fine11:28
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paquinI've got a nvidia 5200 fxgo11:28
thegladiatorablomen, yep I know that but it would be asier to right click on a file ....and open it up ...just making thigns easy11:28
paquin64 MB11:28
eobanbpaquin, does the daemon start?11:29
thegladiatorablomen, nautlis-open-terminal extention is very usefule for me11:29
mwillisAnyone care to tell me about their awesome ubuntu installation?11:29
paquinhow do I do that??11:29
ablomenthegladiator, you can make a lill bash script11:29
eobanbpaquin, it's on the wiki page11:29
thegladiatorablomen, yep thats correct , i was enuring there is nt something like that  then...11:29
ablomenthegladiator, or a launcher on your pannel that starts someting like "gksudo nautilus" that saves you the time of opening a terminal11:30
thegladiatordo you guys remove he older kernels from the grub ?11:30
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Alexi5hello11:31
thegladiatorablomen, thanks11:31
thegladiatorthe*11:31
ablomenthegladiator, good luck11:31
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NET||abuseam i better off using fglrx drivers, or should i sarch out the ATI secific drivers??11:31
NET||abuseon my ATI mobility radeon 750011:31
Alexi5does the ubuntu documentation also apply to kubuntu11:31
ablomenAlexi5, most of the time yes11:32
ArafangionNET||abuse, With mine, (Mine's a laptop model), I had good success with the ATI ones.11:32
morphixthegladiator do you guys remove he older kernels from the grub ? > if the newer kernel boots up perfect than yes, i remove the old one11:32
Arafangionmorphix, I like to have a spare.11:32
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NET||abuseArafangion: what are the ATI ones called in the repos??11:32
morphixeh11:32
thegladiatorthanks I have 3-4 kernels11:32
thegladiatorI thought its safer to do that...mayb just keep a grub copy and change it over then11:33
ablomenAlexi5, only the kde thing is realy different ;)11:33
NET||abuseArafangion: or do i have to download them and compile/install seperately from ATI site?11:33
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Alexi5ok11:34
thegladiatorAlexi5, are you in ubuntu/kubuntu which one ?11:34
Alexi5i have a tendency to switch destops in fedora11:34
Alexi5i am just trying to make up mu mind on which one to get11:34
r00t3d_algum br ai?11:35
nathanjanyone ever had trouble with linux and particular router ?11:35
ablomenAlexi5, lol i could tell you to use gnome but somebody else is gonna say kde ;)11:35
thegladiatorah cool its all avaialb , documentaiotn etc in ubuntu is very imperssive , me too migrated from fedora11:35
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Hobbseenathanj: router, no.  wireless card, yes11:35
Hobbseenathanj: what type of router are you looking at?11:35
Alexi5ablomen:why would you say gnome11:35
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nathanjHobbsee: i dont see how it is possible.11:35
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thegladiatorI like gnome cause it has a very clear look and a simple feeling :)11:36
nathanjHobbsee: a dlink g604t just connecting via ethernet i have internet but shit doesnt work11:36
nathanjHobbsee: bittornado works, azureus doesnt.11:36
thegladiatorno hypes and hooplahs just get working with pleasant looks11:36
ablomenAlexi5, becouse i love nautilus, i like most gnome apps better then most kde apps, i like the look, the feel, everything ;)11:36
rezusrhave anyone installed sun sdk on dapper?11:36
nathanjHobbsee: on windows i can use 10.1.1.1 as the dns and on linux i cant i have to use the isp dns servers11:36
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thegladiatornathanj, azureus issues ask at #azureus , and  ensure that you have the correct port etc...they might be more helpful in these cases11:37
paquinok11:37
Hobbseenathanj: language, and check the open ports on the firewall on the router, i suspect.11:37
Alexi5konqueror is also good11:37
Hobbseebut follow what thegladiator said11:37
paquinI already ran 3ddesktop daemon11:37
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paquinbut i got error messages11:37
paquinlike this one11:37
ablomenAlexi5, thats your opinion, i hate it, its just not my logic, it feels alien ;)11:37
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paquinXlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:38
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Alexi5i feel i might go with ubuntu becuase i get good support here than in kubuntu11:38
sekharhai11:38
matyas_zaI got a problem11:38
thegladiatorthe only thinkg that I dont like in gnome is maybe the menu area "file edit" etc  which looks all the same for every software be it eye of gnome or nautilus...11:38
ablomenAlexi5, for me using kde is like using a mac with the one mouse button thing ;)11:38
matyas_zai get this error msg11:38
matyas_zaW: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>11:38
MuLLeRhatake_kakashi: can u show me ur menu.lst?11:38
paquinhow can I make 3ddesktop run??11:38
sekharanyway can i change the size of the swap partition of the ubuntu?11:39
thegladiatoreverything looks as if it is just a single package under the gnome and nto like a diff software at all11:39
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thegladiatorI like each s/w to have its own look :)11:39
ablomenpaquin, on theire site theres a good manual11:39
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Hobbseematyas_za: you can ignore it11:39
Alexi5can i instal kdevelop in gnome11:39
paquindo you have the url??11:39
thegladiatorAlexi5, yes11:39
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Niekiematyas_za, your best bet is to inform ftpmaster@ubuntu.com about it, I guess.11:40
ablomenpaquin, google ;)11:40
Alexi5nice11:40
thegladiatorAlexi5, I have both installed ...I like some kde apps like Konv11:40
elkbuntuAlexi5, yes, just gotta download right libs etc, which will be dependancies in apt11:40
matyas_zathanks guys11:40
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matyas_zaits when i run apt-get update11:40
thegladiatorAlexi5, its a meta package called kde-desktop , you can just install it11:40
Hobbseematyas_za: Niekie: it's only a warning, as long as you trust the source, which you do, it's fine11:40
ablomenpaquin, just google on 3ddesktop or type that in your firefox location bar thingy11:40
Alexi5ok11:40
matyas_zaI see thanks11:40
cyberic_sdamn, anybody know how to get outlook express emails into thunderbird11:40
NiekieHobbsee, someone "might" have breached the server tho.11:40
sekharhii anyhow can i run change the size of swap partion of ubuntu?11:41
HobbseeNiekie: it's possible11:41
BockBilboanyone here knows why beagle from apt cant be installed on dapper?11:41
Alexi5guys11:41
Alexi5which is best to get11:41
Alexi5cd or dvd11:41
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chicken-manHi, I'm having problems starting gnome, I've just done a full install of ubuntu but after I login gnome displays a brown screen and will go no more, I get no errors I can see I'm using fluxbox at the moment, what should I do ?11:41
ablomencyberic_s, the easyest thing to do is to import that into thunderbird on a windows box11:41
Alexi5if i getthe cd will i have to download gigs of software11:41
steve60anyone know how to setup el611:41
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faroussteve60: e16 just run out of the box after installing it11:42
HobbseeAlexi5: then again, it will take you much longer to get the dvd than the cd11:42
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farouse17 on the other hand is the prob11:42
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chmod775!w32codecs11:42
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install11:42
steve60what the irc channel for el611:42
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yanishow can I found what dev is in /dev a usb cdrom to device?I want to mount it11:42
Alexi5ok11:42
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ablomencyberic_s, after that you should copy the account files to your linux px11:43
ablomen*pc11:43
mikelohi i'm trying yo install the server version to a P1 machine but i get a problem mounting the cdrom11:43
Arafangionsteve60, #e, I think.11:43
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thegladiatorany one here runs Init NG ? aftr installing the new kernel I suppose the Init NG dissapeared ?!11:43
ablomenmikelo, whats the error?11:43
zqyhello11:43
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thegladiatorzqy, hello11:43
sekharhelp me please11:44
zqyi cant use BT11:44
zqyWHY??11:44
wasshai am using Firestarter and cannot solve problem with thunderbird connection to gmail account.. i enable outside connection to 995 (pops) and 465(ssmtp) port, but when i try to get messages from gmail, firestarter shows that thuntherbird wants connect ports 33233 etc. (when i enable that port, it wants another one e.g. 33280)11:44
thegladiatorsekhar, ask away....11:44
chicken-manHi, I'm having problems starting gnome, I've just done a full install of ubuntu but after I login gnome displays a brown screen and will go no more, I get no errors I can see I'm using fluxbox at the moment, what should I do ?11:44
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chmod775sekhar, hi11:44
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sekharthe gladiator, anyhow can i change the size of swap partion ??11:44
mikeloablomen, it says it can't detect the cdrom correctly11:44
yanisanybody11:44
yanis?11:44
Alexi5this channel feels more lively than kubuntu11:45
ablomenmikelo, with just one cdrom, as in did you try others?11:45
Alexi5in the next 6 hours i will be installing ubuntu11:45
thegladiatorsekhar, whats your current swap size?11:45
morphixout of all the distro help channles.. this channel is by far the most helping and friendly11:45
thegladiator!swap11:45
ubotuswap is, like, used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq11:45
farouschicken-man: ok look at a hidden file called .ICeauthority and see if you have write access to it11:45
chmod775Is there any application with ubuntu where I can easily change from wireless to normal connection ?11:45
mikeloablomen, it's an old machine... i'm lucky it has a cdrom11:46
krzkrzkrzthe default file system of ubuntu is ext3?11:46
sekharmy swap size is 1 gb11:46
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chmod775But a click on an icon on the gnome taskbar11:46
morphixyes11:46
bimberikrz: yes11:46
thegladiatorsekhar, sekharji go throuht this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq11:46
ablomenmikelo, i dindt ment the drive i ment the actual cdrom11:46
chicken-manfarous, ok one moment11:46
farouschicken-man: also look for.Xauthourit you should have full access to both11:46
wasshaso how sould i setup firestarter to work correctly with thunderbird gmail account?11:46
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chmod775!firestarted11:46
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod77511:46
zqyHELP ME!I CANT USE bt11:46
chmod775!firestarter11:46
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.11:46
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krzbimberi would it be possible to change the file system/11:47
zqyHELP ME!I CANT USE AZUREUS11:47
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mikeloablomen, it's been tested already, but i think i do have another one11:47
mikeloi'll try that11:47
chmod775!nm11:47
ubotuchmod775: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:47
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thegladiatorzqy, #azureus  Please :-)11:47
chmod775!network11:47
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.11:47
chicken-manfarous, errrm how do I display hidden files using ls ?11:47
chmod775ls -alh11:47
Chrisx1ls -A11:48
wasshanobody knows?11:48
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bimberikrz: yes, the installer offers other options if you manually partition11:48
farousok got to log out and in again11:48
athlonI messed up my grub configuration, how do I restore it to the default condition ? That is, how do I tell grub to search where the windows and ubuntu partition are, create grub entries in menu.lst and install it on the right mbr11:48
ablomenmikelo, ok otherwise it could be a plug-and play problem but if the bios sees the cdrom it wont be that i think11:48
mikelois it possible to change partition sizes?swap and other ones11:48
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KenSentMeif i delete the .evolution folder in my home will evolution build it automaticly at restart?11:48
chicken-manfarous, I have Read \ Write access to them11:48
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mikeloablomen, could be considering the age of the pc11:49
thegladiatorKenSentMe, with defaults I think11:49
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KenSentMethegladiator, what do you mean?11:49
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ablomenmikelo, shure that can be it, but it runs on most of the hardware iv seen, including pc's from the stone-age11:49
thegladiatorKenSentMe, your personal data will be lost I think , like user pass etc11:49
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KenSentMethegladiator, i want to have my evolution like a fresh install, is this the way?11:50
KenSentMethegladiator, that's what i want i think11:50
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thegladiatorKenSentMe, what about trying to remove the package ? can someone tell him how to remove the packagae and resintall it ?   also delete the dolfer if it is not already deleted11:50
chmod775how do I install jre for mozilla firefox11:51
chmod775?11:51
chicken-manfarous, Do I have to be able to execute them ...... ?11:51
ablomenKenSentMe, if you delete your profile dir you have a clean install, but youll lose all of your mail11:51
thegladiatorchmod775, !restriced ?11:51
KenSentMeablomen, that's what i wanted to know, thanx11:51
ablomenKenSentMe, for evolution that is11:51
KenSentMek11:51
chmod775!restriced11:51
ubotuchmod775: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:51
chmod775huh ?11:51
paquinnope11:52
ablomenKenSentMe, so you should look for a .evolution dir in the home or .gnome2 dir11:52
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thegladiatorwhats restricted format ubotu ?11:52
paquinalready downloaded the newest version of nvidia11:52
thegladiator!restrictedformat11:52
ubotuthegladiator: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:52
paquinnothing11:52
chmod775hehe11:52
bimberi!restricted11:52
ubotuI heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats11:52
paquincan't make 3ddesktop work11:52
thegladiatoryeah chmod775 !11:52
KenSentMehuh, i did rm -R .evolution, but when i started the program it had al my files already11:53
thegladiatortypos guys I am full of it] 11:53
thegladiatorsee that ]  at the end ?!11:53
thegladiatork i am going to restart now ...new kernel testing11:53
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ablomenKenSentMe, its easyer to remove it in nautilus11:53
tiborHi all, I have some problems after yesterday'a automatic update of 5.1011:53
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tiborI am the only chap with this problem?11:54
ablomenKenSentMe, if you click on view=>show hidden files, you can just delete it easely11:54
KenSentMeablomen, i did, but my accounts weren't lost11:54
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tiborthe 686 kernel panics and I can only use the 386 kernel11:55
ablomenwhere did you delete them, witch folder exactly? (including the /home etc)11:55
KenSentMeablomen, it just makes a new .ev folder and show my existing accounts11:55
tiborearlier the 686 kernel did well, withoput problems11:55
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KenSentMeablomen, i think i will try a full purge of evolution11:55
KenSentMeablomen, that should help11:56
raphael_how can i search one file in the ubuntu?11:56
ablomenKenSentMe, ok good luck11:56
farousso each time i update the kernel. I need to recompile the ATI prop  drivers :(11:56
KenSentMeablomen, i deleted it from my home/user folder11:56
raphael_how can i search one file in the ubuntu?11:56
farousraphael_: can you be more clear11:57
mikeloraphael, find / | grep file_name11:57
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raphael_i want find, the folder MUSIC11:57
tiborraphael: find / -name file11:57
ablomenKenSentMe, ok... strange it should work, i cant see where it would store its mail if not there11:57
farousls /dir/filename. or locate to find it in your path11:57
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raphael_but, have one way on graphic mode?11:58
tiborraphael: find / -name MUSIC11:58
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KenSentMeablomen, when i try to fully delete evolution it suggest deleting ubuntu desktop, i don't think that's right11:58
chicken-manCan someone help me get gnome to start.11:58
ablomenlol no it isnt11:58
farousraphael_: the is a search icon in the menu11:58
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ablomenKenSentMe, wait a sec im gonna try miselfe11:58
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KenSentMeablomen, k11:59
bimberiraphael_: Places -> Search for FIles...11:59
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farouschicken-man: did you check that you have full access to both files11:59
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raphael_ok thanks11:59
ablomenKenSentMe, ok iv found it11:59
thegladiatori have a bunh of rar files I downloaded from a movie site , the question is could there be virus in the same  ?11:59
chicken-manfarous, Read, Write and Execute ;-)11:59
thegladiatorits a documentary sort of thing12:00
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luluhi12:00
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chicken-manfarous, Read, I have full access to them files but it don't help12:00
luludoes anyone know what's passive ftp connection?12:00
ablomenKenSentMe, just go to your home folder, do ctrl+h and rename the .evolution folder to .evolution1 or anything like that12:00
tiborI have some problems after yesterday'a automatic update of 5.1012:00
chicken-manooops12:00
cappizsomeone here knows of a ftp client wich supports ssl/PRET/FXP transfers in only one command... meaning; i cant type a fulll command in shell and it would do the fxp... witout have to logon the first ftp12:00
ablomenKenSentMe, then it makes a new profile12:00
cappizand then enter a fxp command.12:00
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tiborthe 686 kernel panics and I can only use the 386 kernel12:01
ablomenKenSentMe, offcoure you should quit evolution tough ;)12:01
farouschicken-man: i am trying to hink what might caused this prob. it only happen when you play with .gnome .gnome2 files12:01
tiborearlier the 686 kernel did well, without problems12:01
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KenSentMeablomen, let's try :)12:01
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chicken-manfarous, hmm well the only thing I've done from the install was to disable hotplug12:02
raphael_i cant find? the file must be on SDA1 SDA2 or SDA3 are NTFS files. and say the permision denie12:02
raphael_denied12:02
KenSentMeablomen, it just created a new .ev folder with my files in it !12:02
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KenSentMeKenSentMe, i'm going to reboot, maybe that helps12:02
ablomendid you close evolution?12:02
farouschicken-man: sorry man i have no idea12:02
tibordo find with sudo12:02
KenSentMeablomen, yes12:02
chicken-manfarous, lol ok :-)12:02
faroushope you can find your prob :)12:02
raphael_?12:03
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chicken-manfarous, me to, other than that I'll use KDE12:03
ablomenKenSentMe, damn it did work for me, just for the sake of it, type killall evolution in your terminal and try again ok?12:03
farouschicken-man: they are all good. Preferring fluxbox here myself12:03
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ablomenKenSentMe, like the whole renaming thing again and then open evolution12:04
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raphael_plz, help me12:04
chicken-manfarous, :-D yeah fluxbox is nice12:04
raphael_how  can i find this files? i have the password12:05
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ablomenraphael_, you have to set permisions right in /etc/fstab12:05
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skunk_eyedhi i need some help concerning my router and ubuntu12:06
skunk_eyedbasically my router gives 192.168.0.1 as the dns server when you configure via dhcp. on windows it workts fine, my router routes all dns requests to the dns servers it got form my isp12:06
skunk_eyedin windows this works fine, but in ubuntu it cannot get the IPs from a url12:06
raphael_how can i ser the permission?12:06
thegladiatorraphael, chmod12:06
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ablomenthegladiator, no he means in fstab12:06
KenSentMeablomen, nope, doesn't help12:06
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thegladiatoroh sorry12:07
cyberic_shey guys, what is a good ftp client12:07
ablomenKenSentMe, damn your evolution is damn stubern12:07
farousshimmmy: put your router address in your default gateway section12:07
raphael_chmod ??? what more12:07
thegladiatorcyberic_s, try !ftp12:07
Arafangioncyberic_s, "ftp" is the canonical program, afaik.12:07
KenSentMeablomen, when i do the killall evolution it says no processes have ended (in dutch)12:07
thegladiatorubotu, tell cyberic_s about ftp12:07
tomplasthi, are there any guys out there that knows anything about firewire12:07
ablomenKenSentMe, a nederlands das al makkelijker ;)12:07
Arafangion!tell tomplast about ask12:08
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KenSentMeablomen, lol, inderdaad12:08
skunk_eyedactually. in the network config dialogue it has the dns server12:08
skunk_eyedand if i put in the dns server manually it works...12:08
skunk_eyedas in the dns servers my router gets from isp12:08
tomplastI have a Intel D865PERL motherboard with integrated firewire support but i cant get it working.12:08
ablomenKenSentMe, erm probeer anders is voor de grap de premissions van de .evolution mat naar niet mogen schrijven en lezen etc te zetten12:09
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ablomen*map12:09
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KenSentMeablomen, chmod 000?12:09
Arafangionskunk_eyed, Try not to ask simultaniously in several channels.12:09
skunk_eyedsry12:10
ablomenKenSentMe, antwoord is in deprivate chat12:10
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Arafangionskunk_eyed, However, that aside, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and set the prepend domain-name-servers to the correct value.12:10
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Arafangionskunk_eyed, That is only required if the dhcp server does NOT provide the correct dns servers.12:10
skunk_eyedwhat kind of value woudl that be?12:11
Arafangionskunk_eyed, Are you using dhcp?12:11
tomplastcan anyone help me?12:11
skunk_eyedyes12:11
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Arafangionskunk_eyed, Edit the file using your favorite editor using sudo, then find the line that begins with #prepend12:11
KenSentMeablomen, zie je mijn chat?12:11
skunk_eyedwait, i will reboot and have a go12:12
Arafangionskunk_eyed, Then write a new line below that, using that line as a guide.12:12
tomplastit really pisses me of to not be able to use my handycam (uses a docking station) :/12:12
thegladiatortomplast, ask in the forums also please , since ppl might not know it out here atm12:12
tomplastoki12:12
tomplastthanks12:12
tomplastbye12:12
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thegladiatorciao12:12
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ablomenKenSentMe,12:12
ablomenKenSentMe, wacht ff ;)12:13
KenSentMeablomen, k12:13
KenSentMeablomen, is toch rechtermuis, dialoogvenster openen12:13
ablomenKenSentMe, probeer nog is (xchat werkt niet erg mee)12:13
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KenSentMeablomen, is toch rechtermuis, dialoogvenster openen12:14
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ablomenKenSentMe, private kan niet12:15
elkbuntuerr.. isnt there a channel for whichever language youse are speaking?12:15
KenSentMeelkbuntu, we try to12:15
KenSentMeelkbuntu, but private doent work12:15
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KenSentMeelkbuntu, sorry12:15
rezahey12:15
elkbuntuare your nicks registered?12:15
rezai have a problem12:15
KenSentMeelkbuntu, mine is12:15
ablomenelkbuntu, nope thats the prob12:15
elkbuntuthen register, it's not as though it costs or anything12:16
ablomenelkbuntu, i know but i first have to know how :P12:16
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rezawhen i play wolfenstein then the windows go black and then normal but it slow then12:16
rezabut then when it goes black and normal again it is fast12:16
ablomenelkbuntu, understanding linux.. ok understanding irc.. not my thinh12:16
elkbuntu-NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>12:17
elkbuntu-NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information12:17
ablomenok thanks12:17
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rezacan anybody help?12:17
morphixanyone know of a way to get "Promise Technology Fasttrak 378 IDE/SATA RAID" controller to work under Ubuntu?12:17
schasisomeone else got probs with wxgtk and amule?12:17
skunk_eyedsorry, but where do i find an xterm in the menus?12:17
ablomenKenSentMe, heb je niet gewoon msn ofz is n stuk makkelijker ;)12:18
rezalol12:18
rezanl12:18
reza:P12:18
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krzdoes the install cd have some packages available?12:18
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KenSentMeablomen, jeroen@vandenieuwenhof.com12:18
morphixkrz: yes12:18
mahenhell12:19
mahen+o12:19
krzi installed through the install cd. how do i tell what packages are available. im hoping to install fluxbox as my wm12:19
morphixah12:19
morphixfluxbox isnt included on cd (that i am aware of)12:19
kentkrz: search for them in synaptic?12:19
morphixjust do12:19
morphixapt-get install fluxbox12:19
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usuario_wadu12:19
morphixsudo apt-get install fluxbox12:19
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rezamy xreen gos black12:20
rezascreen12:20
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rezaand then normaal but it is slow12:20
krzalso. how do i know that most of my hardware has been installed correctly?12:20
krzinstalled = configured12:20
elkbuntuanyone know why xfce update packages are being held back at the moment12:21
kentkrz: if you dont know its not configured-  assume it is   :) I meen,  if you dont have any problems with  the hardware then its all good right?12:21
skunk_eyedArafangion: do i need to uncomment the prepend line?12:22
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Seveaselkbuntu, try dist-upgrade12:23
Seveasinstead of upgrade12:23
elkbuntuSeveas, i will, just wondering if there was some uber breaky thing likely to happen ;)12:23
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Seveasyes12:23
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Seveasit's dapper - breakage is always possible12:24
elkbuntuof course, but i like to have advanced warning, lol12:24
Arafangionskunk_eyed, Note, a # means that it is a comment, and your computer will ignore the remainder of the line12:24
elkbuntui'll let youse know in a few mins... ;)12:24
krzright click unmount volume will safetly remove the usb device right?12:24
skunk_eyedArafangion: I know that12:24
skunk_eyedthe prepend line is commented, do i need to uncomment it?12:25
Arafangionskunk_eyed, Depends. Do you want the system to use the line?12:25
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brennerkrz: yes12:25
nonadejoin #Ubuntu-fr12:25
elkbuntuwhoa....12:25
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elkbuntuseveas.. im inclined to say 'n'... what do you think... http://pastebin.com/55928112:27
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Seveaselkbuntu, apt-get -s install -o"Debug::PkgProblemResolver=true"12:27
Seveasand output on the pastebin12:27
Seveasehm, not install but dist-upgrade of course12:28
elkbuntuso im correct in being suspicious?12:28
nmwow talk about hardcores12:28
nmwhen i get up at 612:28
nmthis channel should be dead12:28
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northieWe're European.12:28
Seveaselkbuntu, somewhat12:28
nmoh12:28
Seveasnm, it's a global channel...12:28
northieGo Euroooope.12:29
Seveasgo where?12:29
nm<- canuck12:29
northieAll over yo face, mama12:29
nmbut i'll keep it in mind12:29
nm;p12:29
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bimberinm, 'evening from down under :)12:29
northieHar. Hi.12:29
nmbimberi: god save the queen12:29
nmhehe12:29
Toma-gday bimberi :D12:29
bimberinm: lol12:29
morphix:o12:29
bimberihi Toma-  :)12:30
elkbuntuSeveas, http://pastebin.com/55928812:30
Toma-what side of AU are u on?12:30
morphixi'm in aus :)12:30
kasimhello, any chance of getting my amd64 with SATA installed? Breezy was no success12:30
skunk_eyedArafangion: it will prepend 127.0.01 to my resolv file. but i want the dns servers i get via dhcp to be used12:30
bimberiToma-: from the east, and even worse (to you Sandgropers) - Canberra!12:30
elkbuntuwe should start up an ubuntu-aus channel ;)12:30
bimberi:P12:31
Toma-haha12:31
morphixlol12:31
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bimberithere is #ubuntu-au12:31
elkbuntuwe could call it ubuntau ;)12:31
Toma-canberra is more of a 1 horse town than perth :D12:31
elkbuntuwtf i looked the other day and didnt see it12:31
morphixi live near Sydney :)12:31
Seveaselkbuntu, 'n'12:31
nminstead of one horse town, you should call it 'one nameserver town'12:31
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Chrisx1checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 2540: lex: command not found12:31
elkbuntualready did that, figured i could do the command again if needed12:31
Chrisx1what does that mean12:32
SeveasChrisx1, apt-get install flex bison build-essential12:32
Chrisx1thanks12:32
Arafangionskunk_eyed, It is very odd that they aren't.12:32
Arafangionskunk_eyed, They do here.12:32
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Arafangionskunk_eyed, Is it correctly updating the resolv.conf file?12:33
elkbuntuSeveas, shall i make a post on forum or something?12:33
skunk_eyedbasically, my router sends its ip address as dns, then routes all dns traffic to the servers it get from my isp12:33
Seveaselkbuntu, just poke janimo in #xubuntu 12:33
elkbuntuokies12:33
skunk_eyedworks in windows, nto in ubuntu. also worked in my old system12:33
nmskunk_eyed: can't you just place your NAT router's IP address in your /etc/resolv.conf12:34
skunk_eyedArafangion yes it is12:34
nmthat should work fine12:34
elkbuntuhmmm, Seveas, he aint there :P12:34
skunk_eyedit's in there12:34
Arafangionskunk_eyed, Then it should be working.12:34
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skunk_eyedyes, that is what i thought should happen12:35
Seveaselkbuntu, so then you wait for him to show up 12:35
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elkbuntuSeveas, what are his usual hours, do you know?12:35
Shadowpillaris it too late to suggest packages for dapper?12:35
SeveasShadowpillar, yes12:36
Shadowpillardamn12:36
ShadowpillarI was gonna suggest the Xorg Genius Wizardpen driver12:36
Shadowpillaris it in dapper?12:36
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Seveas!find xorg-driver-input dapper12:37
morphixon my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(12:37
kentSeveas: how do you write that smiley?12:37
Seveaskent like this: 12:37
Toma-its japanese12:37
skunk_eyedthis is annoying12:37
elkbuntuhe also has a retarded fuzzy circle...12:37
Seveaselkbuntu, no i ditched that one 12:37
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elkbuntuyay12:37
Toma-:12:38
SeveasToma-, dude, go to a medic, your upper lip is busted...12:38
Toma-_12:38
Toma-hehe12:38
elkbuntuit could be hare-lip seveas ;)12:38
Toma-its a long nose12:38
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xorg-driver-input' returned no results.12:39
Toma-:-12:39
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SeveasShadowline, it's not in dapper12:40
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steve60could anyone point me in the directions of a help guide to enlightenment 6 I,E, desktop resolution icons etc...etc...12:40
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Toma-steve60, you mean, 16.6?12:40
steve60Toma-, yeah12:41
Toma-you want to make your own theme?12:41
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nmwhy use SSL for connections to the wiki?12:42
nmwaste of bandwidth, really..12:42
mahangu|studyanyone know how i can make it so thunderbird doesnt dl attachments?12:42
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krzi need to download codecs for my vedeos. what codecs do i need?12:43
ingahi12:43
sambagirlchao12:43
sambagirlwhat is a proxy server?12:43
steve60win32 codecs12:43
steve60!w32codecs12:43
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:43
steve60krz, type sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:43
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steve60in the terminal12:43
Arafangionsambagirl, Do you know what a server is?12:43
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brennersteve60: they ain't in the official repos12:44
sambagirlofcourse someone who serves12:44
dfhfdHello12:44
Arafangionsambagirl, Good, now consult your dictionary and see what "proxy" means :)12:44
brennerha12:44
dfhfdI have weird problem:12:44
krzsteve60 does that include codecs like xvid, divx, etc?12:44
dfhfdMy keyboard don't resporting in KDE.12:44
dfhfdWhat can I do?12:44
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elkbuntudfhfd, you've checked connections, tried another keyboard etc etc?12:45
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dfhfdI have leptop. It's prety problem check connection etc.12:45
steve60krz, i presume so12:45
elkbuntudfhfd, model etc etc12:45
ingai have a breezy updated from hoary and getting errors while apt-get is generating locales which leaves some packages unconfigured. including ubuntu minimal and ubuntu-base12:45
steve60krz, i know it has the useuall WMV AVI etc etc...12:46
dfhfdHow can I check the model?12:46
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elkbuntudfhfd, of the laptop... usually it'll have it written on it12:46
dfhfdMy laptop is compaq Evo N16012:46
MuLLeRhehe me back .. grub load .. WXP not .. :)12:46
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_diogogreetings!12:46
brennerMuLLeR: any errors?12:47
_diogotrivia: where do the release names for ubuntu come from? are they just completely original?12:47
MuLLeRbrenner: says unknown partition type .. and shows some symbols ... and hangs12:47
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_diogonobody knows that?12:49
MuLLeRbrenner: but ubuntu loaded k now ... Ubuntu is on a PATA drive XP on a SATA ... grub in MBR of PATA12:49
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brennerMuLLeR: my guess is grub isn't set up correctly.  what was your original problem?  i missed it.12:49
omerlhI was dfgh whatever.12:49
MuLLeRbrenner: the original problem was the XP doesn't want to load ..12:49
MuLLeRbrenner: i used lilo12:50
ingais there a german speaking ubuntu-channel?12:50
_diogoinga: is there a SPEAKING ubuntu channel?!?!12:50
ingabecause my aptget output is partially german12:50
bimberi!de12:50
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de12:50
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ingathx ubotu12:50
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brennerMuLLeR: why didn't xp load?12:51
elkbuntuomerlh, i have no idea, i cant seem to find any other instances of problems quite like non-functional keyboard12:52
elkbuntuomerlh closest i've found is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67546&highlight=compaq+evo+keyboard12:52
elkbuntuomerlh, where only some things didnt work12:52
MuLLeRbrenner: dunno .. it just hanged12:52
omerlhMy friend said all did was tipe "info".12:52
sambagirlwhat is secure tunnel?12:52
ablomenREGISTER ab089312:52
MuLLeRbrenner: the bootstrap process12:52
ablomenlol oops12:53
omerlhI can't type anything anywhere. Not even konsol.12:53
sambagirlcheck your keyboard cable12:53
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sambagirlthen if not still pull power plug and then put back12:53
omerlhI have laptop, it prety hard.12:53
elkbuntuhmm i wonder if it needs a modprobe... seveas, have you any idea what the modprobe command for a laptop keyboard would be?12:54
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brenneromerlh: does it work in gnome?12:54
omerlhYeah, that's the weirdest thing.12:54
omerlhOnly in KDE the problem exict.12:55
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elkbuntubrenner, it wouldnt be xorg related in some way would it?12:55
brennersambagirl: we're not dictionaries.  maybe try something like wikipedia12:56
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brennerelkbuntu: dunno.  i would've thought kde would use the same xorg settings as gnome12:57
elkbuntubrenner, i'm thinking some sort of conflict though12:57
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elkbuntubrenner, something kde is doing that gnome isnt12:57
sambagirlwell Seveas is, i just asked a question to have simple explanation not research for thesis.12:57
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elkbuntusambagirl, seveas is what?12:57
Shadowpillar!find xorg-driver-input dapper12:58
omerlhWhat it is?12:58
brennerelkbuntu: a dictionary apparently. :)12:58
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elkbuntubrenner, one word.. rofl12:58
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thegladiatoris it possible for me resize the icons of my desktop ?12:58
thegladiatorusing gconf editor or something ?12:58
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ShadowpillarSeveas: lame, because it'd be nice to have a supported driver for my tablet, I compiled my own, and it's stable as hell12:59
ablomenthegladiator, just do right-click resize12:59
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xorg-driver-input' returned no results.12:59
thegladiatorablomen: I have to do that for each one :( i was looking for a standard size to size verything to some value12:59
omerlhI search in google, nothing usefull.12:59
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ablomenthegladiator, maybe in a config file in the .gnome2 folder or something01:00
moggio_where is the kernel source in ubuntu?01:00
thegladiatoryes I a looking for some cnfiguration editing in gconf editor or something01:00
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MuLLeRhere's my grub conf ... maybe i missedup somewhere ... why XP doesn't boot?01:01
MuLLeRhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/D6ASCi31.html01:01
omerlhI tried work with gnome, but battery status don't work there. Why?01:01
thegladiatorwhat about arranging icons other than "keep aligned" ? is it possible to horzontally align all the icons ?01:02
thegladiatoror vertically align for that matter01:03
thegladiator?01:03
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brennerMuLLeR: looks OK to me.  something to check: is the windows partition bootable?01:05
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MuLLeRbrenner: yes .. it's setuped as active ..01:05
brennerso it has the boot flag on?01:06
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MuLLeRbrenner: yes01:06
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brennerMuLLeR: time to hit the forum.  use that unkown partition error as your search string01:07
mwillisHey guys.  Is Ubuntu better than Debian?01:07
elkbuntumwillis, that's entirely a matter of opinion01:08
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mwillishehe I see01:08
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omerlhThere is anything to configure for battery status?01:08
omerlhunder gnome.01:08
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Zerobytehow do I install tcl?01:09
MuLLeRk thanx for the help01:09
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morphixon my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(01:09
brennermwillis: nice try :)01:09
mwillisbrenner: haha, I'm really curious!01:10
omerlhI have to go. GOOD BAY.01:10
brennersuuure01:10
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elkbuntumwillis, your only way of knowing if YOU prefer it is to download it and try it. the livecd will give you a fair indication :)01:10
peejmorphix : did you take a look in the F2-5?6?7? menus for kernel options to try?01:10
bimberi!debian01:10
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/01:10
mwillisbrenner, no, really!01:10
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MrFreeBirdhi there. How can I create a script to automate ftp?01:11
mwillishehe01:11
mjrMrFreeBird, by using expect01:11
morphixpeej morphix : did you take a look in the F2-5?6?7? menus for kernel options to try? << eh??01:11
MrFreeBirdI wanna do many things, and I dont want to type ftp commands every time01:11
peejMrFreeBird: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/34601:11
mjrMrFreeBird, or rather, use lftp -f script_file01:12
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mjron yeah, basic ftp was scriptable too01:12
mjralways forget that01:12
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brennerZerobyte: aren't tcl files just scripts?  iirc, tcl support is provided with all *nix systems by default01:13
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peejmorphix: during install you can press f2 f3 f4 etc rather than going for default boot option. Maybe the hints in the other pages will help.01:13
morphixhmm.01:14
NET||abusehmm, how do enable dapper repo's from breezy?01:14
sittisalwhy in dapper's gdm lots of icons are missing?01:14
NET||abusei'm working on getting glx and compviz working01:14
NET||abuseXgl even.01:14
Seveas!xgl01:14
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/01:14
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NET||abusethanks Seveas01:15
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mwillisAre ubuntu advances feeding back into Debian, too?01:16
elkbuntuubuntu advances feed into the whole Open Source community, mwillis, that's how Open Source works :)01:17
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kentHow come in Dapper the logout dialog is diffrent if I use the logout-applet compared to the System->Log out?  It seems a bit strange..01:20
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NET||abusedoes this mean i'll have to re-install completely my laptop with dapper, i'm on breezy now? is there an upgrade path to follow that will allow Xgl to work?01:20
mandavisomeone knows why my ipw2200 does not reconnect after the wireless connection was temprorarily disconnected - i can't even reconnect with the build-in network configuration tool01:20
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volvoguyquick question, as I have zero AMD experience. i have a hand-me-down "AMD Athlon, CPU Family=6, Model=2, 700Mhz". is the 686 the best kernel for this machine or the k7?01:21
Toma-k701:21
Toma-no,01:21
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volvoguythere is no k6.01:21
Toma-oh rly...01:21
peejkent: it's supposedly more ergonomic01:21
farousmandavi: i do not knwo why it does that but restarting the router always helped here01:21
Toma-volvoguy, to be honest, kernel optimizations are barely noticable...01:22
Toma-id go the 68601:22
kentpeej: is it ergonomic with two diffrent dialogs for the same thing? I have no objects regarding the applet for logging out, just that the dialog looks diffrent..01:22
volvoguyToma-: that was my guess too. thx for the confirmation. :)01:22
mandavifarous: i restarted the whole machine till now - how do i restart the router?01:22
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farousmandavi: where are you running the machine.01:23
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mandavifarous: at my window...? what do you mean?01:23
brenneri thought the 686 kernel was geared more towards intel machines ... the linux-k7 package specifically targets athlon/durons.  wouldn't that be better?01:23
farousmandavi: or in other word do you use a home based wireless network like me01:23
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mandavifarous: yes, homebased01:23
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farousfarous: do you use wireless router at home. if so unplug the router and plugit again01:24
mateonfor k6 you have to go with 386, sorry01:24
Toma-brenner, the optimizations do bugger all in real world times01:24
mandaviit is a not encrypted free wireless lan01:24
mandavifarous: it is a not encrypted free wireless lan01:24
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brennerToma-: i know.  i tried out 686 on a p4 and didn't notice any gains01:24
farousmandavi: does not matter i found that most of the time it is the wireless router prob01:24
Toma-*nod*01:25
brennerToma-: i'm just wondering why go for the 686 if the k7 targets amds ... at least in the descr.01:25
Toma-*shrug*. k7 might have conflicting calls with the older k601:26
pappanis pdf reader available in breezy in the installation cd ?01:26
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farousmandavi: and if i were you i would take some security measure you do not want unauth person to log in your private lan01:26
mateonToma-: and 68601:26
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farouspappan: yap evince01:26
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Toma-686 supports really old stuff01:26
pappanfarous: ty seems like i have missed it01:26
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farouspappan: no problem01:27
pappani guess i have to install thru aptitude and select not-installed packages01:27
mandavifarous: it is an open city-lan, not my private01:27
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farousoh ok mandavi sorry misunderstood you01:28
omerlhHello again01:28
mateonToma-: 686 is pentium pro and up, I suppose you could run 586 on a k601:28
brennerToma-: ah, so mostly for the safety of coverage?01:28
farousmandavi: have you tried ifup and ifdown01:28
omerlhI have ywo problems:01:28
mandavifarous: no, not yet01:28
omerlhFirst, my keboard don't resporting in KDE. I have laptop.01:28
mandavifarous: what else do you do to restart the router for the wlan?01:28
farouswhat is your wireless device name mandavi01:28
mandavieth101:28
farousok sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth101:29
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omerlhSecond, in gnome, I can't know what my battery status.01:29
mandavifarous: alright, thank you, will try at the next disconnect....01:29
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farousmandavi: having casual disconnection is normal my friend you will get it a lot01:29
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Xamuskhello01:30
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Xamuskthe network-manager applet is highly unstable here01:30
mandavifarous: it is actually not all that many times, sometimes it runs properly for two, three days01:30
XamuskI have to kill it all the time01:30
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farousmandavi: that is exceptional for me ? my router at home is really bad that i am using the ethernet cable. gave up on wirless01:31
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Xamuski.e. I had to set the wep key manually with iwconfig and now I'm connected, the applet shows that it's still waiting for a key01:32
mandavifarous: move to berlin - free city-lan at some parts of the city - and with some privacy tool fair anough01:32
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farousmandavi: your mayour is a great man :)01:32
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mandavifarous: city major?01:33
mandavifarous: or the new female cancellor?01:33
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thegladiatortkae the major chat to #ubuntu-major channel :-) jk01:33
farousoh mandavi you are not reg01:34
farousok this is a support channel so chatting is not liked here perhaps ubuntu-offtopic is better room01:34
thegladiatorcancellor ? chancellor :)01:34
faroussorry firend tried to send it to you as private message but failed01:35
mandavithegladiator: chancellor....01:35
thegladiatoryeah mandavi01:35
mandavifarous: it worked, just haven't seen it01:36
thegladiatori'd like to see your dektops , anyone has screenshots ?01:36
farous:)01:36
brennerthegladiator: http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7475/screenshot7dw.png01:36
farousthegladiator: mine is modest not that shinney01:37
brennerobviously i like black. :)01:37
elkbuntuthegladiator also, i dare say there would be threads about desktop setups in the forum, maybe search there too :)01:37
thegladiatorthanks I like to see though01:37
thegladiatorelkbuntu: yeah I shall never new that :)01:37
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elkbuntuthegladiator, do you know the forums url?01:38
Xamuskbrenner: whoa... nice desktop01:38
thegladiatorbrenner: dud I kinda like , obvious you are someone to watch out for  :)01:38
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thegladiatorelkbuntu: yep01:38
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brennerXamusk: thank the theme creator...his hard work, not mine01:38
thegladiatorbrenner: mind telling the theme names ?01:38
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NoWhereManhi all01:39
Xamuskbrenner: yeah, but I haven't seen nothing like it before01:39
brennerthegladiator: gtk and gkrellm theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24409 ... the desktop was from deviantart i think01:40
farousthegladiator: go to ubuntuforums.org/gallery01:40
thegladiatorthanks I shall give a try01:40
NoWhereManI don't know what after I installed rox-filer in xfce I've lost my desktop image and can't left click to have the menu... what should I do?01:40
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paolobHi guys! Where is the .history file in ubuntu? man history says it's ~/.history, but I don't see it01:41
elkbuntupaolob, did you enable viewing hidden files?01:41
paolobelkbuntu, yes01:41
farousNoWhereMan: because nautilus took care of that and you replaced it with rox-filer01:41
brennerpaolob: .bash_history01:41
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brennermaybe?01:42
NoWhereManfarous, huh, now I've removed rox-filer01:42
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derek[] Hi01:42
NoWhereManfarous, what have i to do, then?01:42
derek[] How do I install PCF fonts?01:42
elkbuntuNoWhereMan, maybe try reinstalling nautilus?01:42
farousNoWhereMan: youdo not need ro remvoe rox-filler just in a terminal type nautilus01:42
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xoredi need to restore some deleted files. I deleted them yesterday an immediately mounted the drive readonly, so nothing is overwritten. Are there better tools then e2undel ( its ext2) to unerase files ?a01:42
elkbuntuor that01:42
paolobbrenner, thank you!01:43
NoWhereMangood it worked01:43
farousNoWhereMan: you can have them both installed01:43
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sivanghi all01:43
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NoWhereManfarous, it worked, then I'll reinstall nautilus01:43
farousNoWhereMan: if it worked than it is already installed :)01:44
NoWhereManfarous, lol01:44
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derek[] Are PCF fonts installed in a different way from that of TTF ones?01:44
NoWhereManfarous, then if I logout and in it should stay there?01:44
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sivangI have a weird problem with my desktop events sounds, is tehre anyway to enable them?01:44
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sivangsound is working okay,01:45
sivangand media files have their sound working, including login sound. I'm missing the ubuntu sound theme music at login,01:46
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sivangas well as gaim sounds01:46
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sivanganybody have an idea?01:46
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sivangmaybe it's a metacity problem that it needs to knwo to allow those sounds to work?01:46
thegladiatorbrenner: hwo do I install the industrial engine ?01:46
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[olli] hey, is there a way to export address book and/or calender data from evolution? (ubuntu 5.10)01:46
sivangpitti: maybe you have an idea?01:46
twbSo breezy and dapper equate to Debian's sarge and etch respectively?01:46
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frankeneed help with virtual hosts in lan!! they work from the outside, but not from the inside of the lan01:47
NoWhereManfarous, erm... I meant to have back the xfce left click menu, not the gnome one... sorry I wasn't clear01:47
BockBilbohey01:47
twbthegladiator: aptitude install gtk2-engines-industrial gtk-engines-industrial01:47
farousam nor running xfce never liked it so sorry do not know01:47
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wiewhy its change to01:47
wieaptitude01:48
wie?:\01:48
thegladiatorthanks aptitude ?01:48
thegladiatorapt-get ?01:48
twbwie: what?01:48
thegladiatorlol01:48
NoWhereManfarous, than you anyway01:48
gnomefreakthegladiator: either way is fine01:48
thegladiatorah01:48
thegladiatorthanks01:48
farousuw:)01:48
[olli] seems to me there is no export data from evolution01:48
BockBilboim using dapper and i have mysql-server-5.0 installed on it.  It seens that even though the mysql process is running, no program can iniziate any mysql socket to be connected to sql server... it only works if i reinstall the server... but after rebooting, everything starts working bad again. Any idea of how to fix this?01:49
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Ng[olli] : what do you want to export it to?01:49
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[olli] Ng: csv text file at least01:49
morphixon my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(01:49
BockBilboi get this: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)01:49
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Ng[olli] : it stores data in fairly standard formats already - like mail is just mboxes, calendar is a .ics, etc.01:50
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Ngthe contacts isn't so standard though i spose01:51
gnomefreakBockBilbo: 13 as in error 13 premissions denied?01:51
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BockBilbognomefreak, dont think so..01:51
[olli] Ng: isn't the addressbook.db a binary file?01:51
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NoWhereMan[away] farous xfdesktop in the terminal did it :)01:51
Ngyeah, it's a berkely db01:51
BockBilbousing mysql-client from command line i get: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)01:51
farousNoWhereMan[away] : cool01:51
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[olli] Ng: do you know any program which does the export automatically?01:52
BockBilbognomefreak, its the error no 2002: cant connect to local mysql server through socket01:52
=== gnomefreak never used mysql but everytime i see (13) its a premissions issue thats why i asked
BockBilbooh.. i see..01:53
Ng[olli] : I can't think of any PIMs that export data01:53
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mateonBockBilbo: well does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist?01:53
[olli] Ng: okay. thanks.01:54
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BockBilbomateon, i was about to check that and also see its permissions01:54
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BockBilbobing01:55
BockBilbobingo01:55
BockBilboit exists, but it doesnt have right to the average user01:55
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twinoatlhi01:56
zughi01:56
twinoatlI got problems with daily generated isos01:56
twinoatlcan I write bug reports ? Where ? In the launchpad ?01:56
BockBilboive changed the permissions... but dont know if this solution will be kept after rebooting01:57
BockBilbobrb01:57
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brennertwinoatl: apps > sys tools > bug report01:57
shanonxHey guys got an install question, when I try to install Ubuntu, it tells me it cannot find my network adapter, which is build onboard my MotherBoard... what must I do so that it can recognize it?01:59
[olli] Ng: do you know why i can't find evolution-addressbook-export in ubuntu?01:59
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gnomefreakshanonx: do you know what make/model the nic card is?02:01
shanonxjust a sec i can tell you02:02
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=== gnomefreak has never seen an onboard network card :(
shanonxgnomefreak: Its an Intel 82573V02:03
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gnomefreakok give me a sec02:03
shanonxsure thing02:04
morphix:(02:04
gnomefreakim assuming the w means wireless?02:04
shanonxno its a V not a W :)02:05
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shanonxits not a wireless card.02:05
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gnomefreakoops02:06
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gnomefreakshanonx: when installing does it let you continue the install without detecting the nic?02:08
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shanonxgnomefreak: It gave me the option to, but I didn'02:08
shanonxdidn't try it... I will try that first and see if I can get it working02:08
thegladiatorcan someone please repeat that command to install the industrial engine ?02:09
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thegladiatori did a copy paste but not working02:09
thegladiator am using iirc atm02:09
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neoscguys.. the sweet guys a t ubuntu sent me the latest version of their cds (5.10).. i have 5.04 currently installed.. it it woth the upgrade to reinstall the whole thing??02:09
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neoscis it worth*02:09
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gnomefreakshanonx: next time continue get it installed you might just have to activate the nic. i only see 3 intel cards here im not sure what your chipset is here ill give you the link incase you find the chipset02:10
thegladiatoris there anyone who can scroll back and tell me what the command was to instal gtk industrial engine ?02:10
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damian_how do i link to files i used to know i dont fuly understand now something to do with path$02:10
_JuDgEn_hi, how do i alter the screen resolution of x from console?02:10
_jasonthegladiator: thegladiator: aptitude install gtk2-engines-industrial02:10
gnomefreakshanonx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards02:10
IdleOneneosc:  I think it it is02:10
thegladiatorthanks jason02:10
neoscyes.?? what are the new things?02:10
BockBilboim back02:10
shanonxgnomefreak: ok, thanks for your help!02:10
BockBilbo:S02:10
motionblurhi people, I need some help installing a geforce 2 GTS under ubuntu... I've followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but it doesn't work...02:10
damian_  /usr/local/lib/jack02:11
damian_ is what i need my programs to find corrently there looking in /usr/lib i think02:11
gnomefreakthere was also a gtk-engines-industrial02:11
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_JuDgEn_hi, how do i alter the screen resolution of x from console?02:11
brenner_JuDgEn_: let me guess, you want more screen space in terminal mode02:11
_JuDgEn_brenner nah02:12
gnomefreakubotu tell _JuDgEn_ about fixres02:12
thegladiatorso what command for the whole thing ? gnomefreak02:12
neoscideleone.. guys.. is ti worth the upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10??? what r the new features?02:12
_JuDgEn_x wont start unless i reconfigure02:12
gnomefreakneosc: yes its worth the upgrade02:12
damian_how do i link to files i used to know i dont fuly understand now something to do with path$02:12
damian_  /usr/local/lib/jack02:12
damian_ is what i need my programs to find corrently there looking in /usr/lib i think02:12
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damian_!path02:13
ubotudamian_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:13
damian_!path$02:13
ubotudamian_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:13
neoscgnomefreak :the new features??02:13
sivangSeveas: do you have any idea maybe about my sounds problem?02:13
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motionblurhi people, I need some help installing a geforce 2 GTS under ubuntu... I've followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but it doesn't work...02:13
_jasondamian_: what are you trying to do?02:13
gnomefreakneosc: packages.ubuntu.com  for a complete list of packages02:14
neoscah.. thanks02:14
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gnomefreakneosc: a big feature is that 5.04 will not be supported with updates ina  few months02:15
damian_basically i need lmms and muse to find my newest version of jack whitch is in /usr/local/lib/jack. Instead they look in /usr/lib and detect an old version and dont run02:15
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!lilo:*! Updated http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic (the policy page section on offtopic activity on freenode) just to make the wording more emphatically clear.... changed "...antisocial behavior, including..." to "...antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to)..."02:16
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!lilo:*! (this is not a substantive policy change, just highlighting the existing wording)02:16
_jasondamian_: did you install these things with the package manager or are they not available?02:16
damian_should the newest version of jack 0.100.0 be available?02:17
damian_i couldnt find it and so installed it from source02:17
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_jasondamian_: so what did you do? make install?02:18
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damian_configure, make, make install02:18
damian_normal02:18
damian_and everything wont fine02:18
_jasonubotu: tell damian_ about checkinstall02:18
gnomefreaki have jack in repos not sure what version tho02:19
_jasondamian_: in the future, checkinstall will make your life easier02:19
_jasondamian_: for your problem you should just be able to make symlinks, just don't overwrite anything that is managed by the package manager02:19
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bonezhey .. just wanted to know is there a special repository with kernel sources .. i have multiverse en universe open but cant apt kernel-source 2.6.12-1002:21
port7anyone any idea why i am getting a timeout when i try to recv-key for Sevas' repository?02:21
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port7but i can get other keys fine from the same key server02:21
_Felixhello02:21
gnomefreakkernel sources are in the src repos arnt they?02:21
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thegladiatorbrenner, i installed gothic blue theme , my desktop doesnt have the black color , I tried a restart also...oddly I cant see my cursr also when I type into xchat02:22
damian_symlinks thats it sorry ahvent used linux for 2 years how do i do that02:22
gnomefreakln -s02:22
damian_set path$= something like that yeah02:22
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_jasondamian_: ln -s destination name02:22
brennerthegladiator: how'd you install it?02:22
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j_elementany one familiar with ddos packets here ?02:22
damian_destination is the file ro the directory?02:23
thegladiatoropened theme manager , pasted it and it installed02:23
thegladiatorit was a controls theme02:23
farousthegladiator: check this theme finally was able to upload it not as gothic or dark as you wana though http://www.ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1979&catid=newimages02:23
bonezgnomefreak, i have -> deb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse02:23
bonez in my sources.list02:23
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_jasondamian_: actually, why is the old version still there?  do you need it?02:23
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thegladiatoryep farous02:24
thegladiatorbrenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/877502:24
brennerthegladiator: correct....what's wrong exactly?02:24
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thegladiatorjust see the screen shot02:24
damian_im not sure going to keepp it there probably for dependencies why isnt the other version available?02:24
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stjepanhello02:25
thegladiatorgood one farous02:25
stjepanwhats ubuntu's kde dir? (in slackware it is /opt/kde)02:25
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thegladiatorbrenner, in that screenshot I nothing is black eerything is white02:25
_FelixStjepande02:25
_Felixhrvat?02:25
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damian_no when i try to uninstall it wants to remove mplayer xmms and others02:26
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Kamping_Kaiserstjepan: where is it installed? Kubuntu might be able to tell you, fraid i don't know02:26
brennerthegladiator: weird02:26
thegladiatoryeah really weird02:27
brennerthegladiator: if you switch control themes, does it change?02:27
skenmyHi All :) I'm having a lot of trouble copying data from a DVD to my home directory. It hangs for about 5 minutes on random files, then gives an I/O Error and asks to Skip, Cancel, or Retry. The files are not always the same. Any ideas on how I can get this data onto my HDD?02:27
_jasondamian_: well then I'd look at the specific programs, muse I think you said, and see how you can tell them  to go straight for the other libs.  You're gonna have a weird setup02:27
farousi hate copyinf from eterm :(((((02:27
thegladiatorI had theme prolems ever since I installed few theme from art manager!02:27
thegladiatorever sinc some themes doesnt seem to have effect  or so i feel02:27
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thegladiatorit does change02:27
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brennerso you've had problems  iwth other themes too?02:28
thegladiatorlike when I chose dark red theme it becomes dark02:28
thegladiatori am not sure02:28
thegladiatori felt that themes changed colors more than they used after I did a few things with art manager by installing few things02:28
thegladiatorless i.e02:29
thegladiatoreach theme makes some change but not the desired effect . few themes have this problem02:29
thegladiatorall this after I installed art managr and installed few Application themes02:29
brennerso you had problems before gothic and blue?02:29
thegladiatorlike H20 , industrial02:29
brenneri.e. it wasn't my fault? :-/02:29
bonezanyone have a idea in what repo the kernelsources are???02:29
thegladiatorI dont know really :>02:30
damian_nah thanks that fixed my problem02:30
thegladiatorthis seems to prove that02:30
brenneri've never used art mgr, so i can't really help you there02:30
gnomefreakbonez: you may have to enable the src repos02:30
thegladiatorok np :)02:30
bonezto my knowledge the are enabled02:30
damian_i will delete the ones i installed and upgrade once there available02:30
thegladiatori think some stupid problem that I may never figure out02:30
skenmyAnyone? It's starting to annoy me :P02:30
bonezi find a few kernel sources .. uptil 2.6.1102:30
brennerthegladiator: try clicking on the human theme, and then going through details and selecting gothic02:30
bonezput i need 2.6.1202:30
bonezbut*02:30
brennerthegladiator: that's what i'm using02:30
pepsii have linux-source-2.6.12 in my listing02:31
bonezhmm02:31
thegladiatorlet me see that02:31
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thegladiatornah same thing actually02:31
brennerno change?02:31
thegladiatorno change02:32
thegladiatorjust the same sort of effect02:32
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thegladiatorI think I botched up something actually somewhere02:32
brennerwell i don't know to be honest.02:32
bonezpepsi, hey  you are correct . i did a apt-cache search for kernel-source.. not linux source .. (thats what happens if you follow a tutorial to the teeth)02:32
thegladiatorits okay02:32
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thegladiatormaybe in my next install02:32
pepsihrm02:32
brennerthegladiator: post a forum topic on it maybe02:32
thegladiatoryesI shall do that02:33
pepsiinteresting they changed the name02:33
pepsibut as i remember it was annoying having to look for "linux-" and "kernel-"02:34
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skenmyCould anyone possibly help with my problem?02:34
pepsiso now its all under linux-02:34
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Xamuskbonez: the package names changed since 2.6.something02:34
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bonezaah ok .. well its good to know that02:34
bonezguess its since 2.6.1102:34
IdleOneskenmy:  what's the problem02:35
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skenmyHi IdleOne02:35
skenmyI'm having a lot of trouble copying data from a DVD to my home directory. It hangs for about 5 minutes on random files, then gives an I/O Error and asks to Skip, Cancel, or Retry. The files are not always the same. Any ideas on how I can get this data onto my HDD?02:35
ardchoilleHow do I install the KDE desktop environment in Ubuntu? Is there a single meta package that pulls in everything else?02:35
skenmyIf it makes any difference, it is a DVD-RW02:35
pepsikubuntu-desktop02:35
skenmyardchoille, check out kubuntu02:36
IdleOneardchoille: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop02:36
colmsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:36
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ardchoilleskenmy, IdleOne: thank you.02:36
ardchoille:)02:36
farousardchoille: better sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop02:36
IdleOneskenmy:  sorry dude I dont know what would cause that02:37
farousardchoille: so if you do not like it you can use the same command to remove it by sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop02:37
wdhskenmy, I/O errors are not good..  i guess you should check the DVD-RW for errors..02:37
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ardchoillefarous: cool, that does make it much easier02:37
farous:)02:37
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colmfarous, is aptitude purge better that apt-get remove?02:37
farouscolm: for meta packages with apt-get remove you need to remove each dependent package by hand02:38
Xamuskcolm: aptitude purge == apt-get remove --purge02:38
farouscolm: aptitude take care of that automatically02:38
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colmcool, didn't know that.  he won't remove it anyway!  but it's good to know hx02:38
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Aragorn_Guardianhi...i need info about a package release...02:38
farouscolm: so aptitude will remove the packages and the automatically installed dependencies if not used by other packages02:38
farouscolm: :)02:39
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wdhfarous, apt-get remove does that also.. the 'purge' part just removes all the configuration files as well02:39
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farouswdh:  not automatically installed depnedent packages02:39
farouswdh try them both02:40
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wdhfarous, you are right.. i misread what you typed :)02:40
Aragorn_Guardianfarous:  there are a command in apt to show packages that must be updated?02:40
Aragorn_Guardianlike synaptic or aptitude does...02:40
Aragorn_Guardiani mean..in command-line...02:40
skenmywdh -> what confuses me is that I can access the data on the DVD-RW02:40
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skenmyjust cant copy it off02:40
wdhAragorn_Guardian, "sudo apt-get upgrade -s"02:40
colmfolks, short of dapper dist-upgrade, what's the easiest way to get the latest (i.e. including CYMK support) version of Krita installed on Breezy?02:40
Aragorn_Guardiannice... 8)02:41
steve60anyone know of an application that will stream live tv like winamp for windows?02:41
wdhAragorn_Guardian, where 's' stands for 'simulate'02:41
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farousAragorn_Guardian: i mainly use aptitude so sorry do not know check this site though about deb package management http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html02:41
Aragorn_Guardiani need info about the porstgres ckage of ubuntu...02:41
Aragorn_Guardian:(02:41
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Aragorn_Guardianfarous:  ok...02:41
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vdrabhello #ubuntu. A quick question: can I have ubuntu in different languages per user, on the same system? how would I set this up?02:41
Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  thanks... is that!02:42
farousyou will fnd it quite helpfull :)02:42
Aragorn_Guardianfarous:  yeah...i like it...the tools are amazing...02:42
farousand it sums it all up :)02:42
Aragorn_Guardiani am doing a shell script with that info...02:42
wdhAragorn_Guardian, "apt-cache show postgresql"  will give you some info :)02:43
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Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  i need know why it is not upgraded... :(...is getting too old...02:44
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Crazy|Onehi all02:44
_Felixhi crazy one02:44
Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  postgres in ubuntu is in 7.4.7...is beeing unusefull.....stable versionb from postgres is 8.102:44
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steve60anyone know of an application that will stream live tv like winamp for windows?02:44
Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  need know why and what can I do...02:44
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colmvdrab, System Menu > Language Selector02:45
Crazy|OneI have Windows XP Pro, and installed Ubuntu as a virtual machine on vmware. the vm bridge networking dont seem to work as I cant access the net with ubuntu, any ideas what could be up?02:45
gnomefreaksteve60: xmms i think02:45
Xamusksteve60: vls should do it02:45
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steve60gnomefreak, i got streamtuner is there an app like this but for tv though02:45
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wdhAragorn_Guardian, ubuntu releases a new version every six months.. after a release it doesnt take any non-securityrelated updates.. so new versions of packages go into the next version of ubuntu..02:46
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vdrabcol: yes, I have all the necessary languages installed, but it seems changing the default is system-wide... I want user X to have language A and user Y to have language B02:46
gnomefreaktv i dont know about :(02:46
Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  I am with ubuntu 5.04 here02:46
IdleOnecolm:  user language is kept in the user profile right? so i would think that each user could have is own language setup :/ but Im not sure02:46
farouswdh just to add unless it is ported in the backports project :)02:46
wdhAragorn_Guardian, there seems to be a postgresql-8.0 package though :)02:46
wdhso install that02:46
Crazy|Oneanybody?02:47
Aragorn_Guardiannice... 8)....gonna see02:47
sksHi! I'm on Ubuntu 5.10. I wish to change the host name of my computer. I did a "hostname <myhostname>" as well as I made an entry in /etc/network/interfaces. I also verified that the GUI System->Admin-> Networking show the host name correctly. I have rebooted my computer. But the netowrk does not detect the new name. It detects the old name. What have I missed ?02:47
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colmvdrab, I've not actually tried this, but the languge _should_ be a user selection.  What is going wrong?02:47
Aragorn_Guardianwdh: what sources can i safelly put here in synaptic to get those packages, more recents02:47
Aragorn_Guardianin sources.list02:47
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vdrabcolm: I probably don't know where to look.02:47
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wdhAragorn_Guardian, none.. just use main, universe and multiverse..02:48
gnomefreakubotu tell Aragorn_Guardian about easysource02:48
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steve60how do i install a .run file02:48
vdrabkeep running into admin permission troubles, I don't want to make the new user a su, but can't seem to change the language otherwise...02:48
wdhAragorn_Guardian, is there a specific reason why you prefer 8.1 over 8.0.3?02:48
colmvdrab - just tested it.  It works ok on Breezy w/ Gnome.  Second user logged in set to french.  This user = english.  Login Screen/new users = english02:48
gnomefreaksteve60: sh file.run02:48
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steve60gnomefreak, thx02:49
gnomefreakyw02:49
Aragorn_Guardianyes...things in postgres...:/ new relases...maybe 8.0 will be nice...02:49
vdrabcolm: oh really.. ? : /  where do you set language for *this* user?02:49
Crazy|Onecan somebody tell me what I should check to see why my ubuntu os cannot access the net pls02:49
Aragorn_Guardiani have 7.4 here... 8.0 may works...gonna read about02:49
steve60im just downloading ID's free FPS game02:49
Aragorn_Guardianwell...nice...02:49
Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  thanks by help02:49
colmvdrab, System Menu > Language Selector02:49
wdhAragorn_Guardian, just install 8.0 :) you probably wont miss a thing..02:50
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Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  in true....most recents versions are a great adventure...but i really prefer that the comunity make alll tests needed before install in a production machine...02:50
vdrabcolm: I have english and japanese installed there, but I can't see where to assign which language to which user02:51
wdhAragorn_Guardian, just installing a new version because it's 'new', is a good way to get your system unstable :)02:51
Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  yes...i think will be nice.. 8)02:51
Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  yeah...i know...hehehehe02:51
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vdrabit only says "languages available to people on this system"02:51
Aragorn_Guardianthats why i dont compile nothing more..hehehehe02:51
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wdhAragorn_Guardian, it'll probably be included into ubuntu 6.04 once it's released (april)02:51
Aragorn_Guardianniiiiiice02:51
Aragorn_Guardian!!!!02:51
ubotuAragorn_Guardian: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:51
adubim trying to get airsnort to log to a file does anyone have any recommendations on this like when i save a file or log to a file i open it back up it has no data??02:52
vdrabcolm: so, I want to keep the default english, but then where does the japanese go?02:52
Aragorn_Guardiannew release...i really forgot...hehehehe02:52
Aragorn_Guardianthis release cicle is amazing...hehehehe02:52
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Aragorn_Guardianwdh:  well...thanks again...gonna read about...thanks a lot!02:53
gnomefreakdapper will have version 8.102:53
Aragorn_Guardiangnomefreak:  nice...02:53
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mzuverinkcan someone recommend a good samba howto for ubuntu?02:54
IdleOne!samba02:54
ubotuhmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:54
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mzuverinkTahnks02:55
IdleOnenp02:55
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bonezquestion .. is it possible to have reiser and ext3 on a system i currently have a full ext3 setup but i am going to build a lvm on raid and i heard that reiser is better for suck a setup (online resizing)02:56
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bonezsuch*02:56
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petrhow to install single font seperately?02:57
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wdhbonez, is it.. i think the spellingerror you made was actually right :P reiser can be quite good to suck up a system when resizing..02:57
ccookebonez: I'd advise against using reiserfs unless you have regular backups. It's a very fast filesystem, but it's *much* more likely to develop corruption and the recovery tools are poor.02:57
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ccookeIt's *excellent* for a cheap news filesystem, though.02:57
wdhbonez, but yes.. you can use as many filesystems as you wish..02:57
petrinstalling a single font help02:58
jasonr_ubotu: tell petr about fonts02:58
bonezhmm so the overall consensus is no reiser ..02:58
vdrabcolm: well, thanks for trying.02:58
ccookebonez: See if it meets your needs first. I'd just advise against trusting it for, say, root or important files.02:59
ccookeagain, if you have backups of everything...02:59
petrjasonr:02:59
petri know but its confusing02:59
jasonr_petr: what kind of font is it02:59
elkbuntubonez, they're just slapping a nice big "handle with care" sticker on it for you ;)02:59
petri wana instal 1 font02:59
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petrjasonr: ttf file03:00
ccookebonez: (For instance, I just lost a week of my time recovering a reiserfs filesystem for work - ended up having to move an 800 gig filesystem image to a different computer, compile later reiserfs tools and then wait three days for the fsck to finish)03:00
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jbroomeouch03:00
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bonezroot is on ext3 (the raid setup is a TB raid 5 ) .. i red somewhere that reiser as a filesystem also uses less space (?)03:01
bonezhmm03:01
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bonezok.......03:01
tane_someone have03:01
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petrjasonr_:03:01
ccookebonez: it uses less space for some workloads.03:01
bonezwell ccooke that got me sold ..ext3 it is .. then i'll just have to umount the fs to resize with lvm03:01
tane_someone have probles when install ubuntu over windows xp and it takes about 2minutes to grub start03:02
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petrjasonr_: its a .ttf file true type font03:02
jasonr_petr: just put it in ~/.fonts then03:02
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elkbuntutane_, what do you mean? you have xp and ubuntu dual booting, and grub takes 2 minutes to time out and send you to your last booted system?03:02
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adubim trying to save capture session in libpcap format how would i do this??03:03
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M_A_KI have a wifi router at home and work.  How do I tell ubuntu (using kde) to use whichever connection is available? I currently have to go into the networking settings and change it manually.03:04
tane_elkbuntu: ye...when i poweron and it says GRUB...it takes about 2 minutes until choise of OS:s come on screen03:04
elkbuntutane so, for grub to even show up?03:05
tane_i have heart that some of debian users have same problems03:05
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petrjasonr_:03:05
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tane_elkbuntu: ehe...haha....i fixed it03:05
tane_haha03:06
damian_what does this mean03:06
petrhow to know i have installed it or not corectly?03:06
damian_checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables03:06
elkbuntutane_, i'm inclined to suggest to you to make a post on the......forum... how?03:06
elkbuntutane_, how did you fix it03:06
gnomefreakis codeweaver the "free" version of dreamweaver?03:06
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jasonr_petr: open a program and try to use it I guess03:06
tane_hmmh...im not sure....i partitioned manually and then it works03:06
gnomefreakdamian_: did you install g++?03:06
tane_meaby thats the reason03:06
jasonr_damian_: it means you need to install build-essential package03:06
damian_yes03:06
tane_first i used automatic partition for free space03:06
damian_oh03:07
damian_thats rihgt03:07
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elkbuntutane_,  some things are best done manually ;)03:07
petrjasonr_: is ther a way to find which are the installed fonts in my system?03:07
tane_i know...but i just tried automatic partition and showd up that sucks :D03:07
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iBaloespecially when the SILLY ubuntu auto-partitioner drops in ... >:-)03:08
tane_elkbuntu: have u used ubuntu long ?03:08
elkbuntuhmm... about 8 months03:08
damian_anyone here used lmms03:08
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tane_i just installed it yeasterday...before i used debian03:08
jasonr_petr: press ctrl+l in nautilus and type 'fonts:///'03:09
elkbuntui've never used pure debian. is it much different?03:09
aldrenhi all, anyone knows a fast oficial repository? :)03:09
tane_elkbuntu: hmmmh...installation is much more complicated and you have to take time to configure all systems to work03:10
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iBaloIs there a quick fix for the frequently hanging gnome-splash in Breezy? It's not a lockup, goes away when one clicks on it, but it's annoying03:10
tane_ubuntu is cool choise for beginners too03:10
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bonezccooke,  you seem to know your filesystems... JFS how does that one compare to the rest?03:10
elkbuntutane_, that i agree with wholly.. it's a very good newbie system03:10
damian_ Invalid configuration `with-vst': machine `with' not recognized03:10
damian_this meant it dosent recognise the with-vst option yeah03:10
tane_elkbuntu: ye i think so too...second best i think is SuSe03:11
elkbuntutane_, btw which were you saying was more complicated? ubuntu or pure debian03:11
petrjasonr_: where is natilus. me hearing it for the first time.03:11
damian_thats a ./configure error03:11
jasonr_petr: it is the file namager03:11
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tane_elkbuntu: debian is for pro users03:11
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tane_u have to to everything yourself03:11
gnomefreakdamian_:  is it -with or --with?03:11
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petrjasonr_: ok03:11
gnomefreakmost of the ones i did were --with03:11
damian_apparrently -with ill try tho03:11
gnomefreakdamian_: ./configure --help might help03:12
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ccookebonez: it's fast, reputed to be good for large files...03:12
elkbuntutane_, ah ok03:12
elkbuntuwell peeps, i'm off to bed, cyas03:12
ccookebonez: I've not personally used, it though. I believe it's not as mature *in linux* as, say, xfs03:12
damian_hecking build system type... Invalid configuration `-help': machine `' not recognized03:13
damian_configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub -help failed03:13
M_A_KCan anybody help a newbie figure out wireless networking problem?03:13
petrjasonr_: system >> preference >> file management . is this one u call natilus?03:13
ccookebonez: oh! if you're using ext3, two things that you might find useful:03:13
jasonr_petr: applications menu > accessories > file browser03:14
damian_it says here but it errors03:14
damian_= If you want VST-support within LMMS, please pass03:14
damian_ =03:14
damian_ = --with-vst03:14
ccookebonez: first, mounting use user_xattr (check mount(8) for how)03:14
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bonezccooke, average file size is around a gig  (just so ya know )03:15
gnomefreakdamian_: and your typing ./configure --with-vst?03:15
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damian_yes03:15
damian_never mind i fixed it03:15
ideafixare the kubuntu and ubuntu reps difrente ?03:15
ccookebonez: second, dir_index - 'sudo tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/hda1' would turn on directory indexing, which will speed up access in directories with lots of files (assuming your filesystem is /dev/hda1, of course)03:15
gnomefreakideafix: not really03:15
damian_they misspelt it03:15
ccookebonez: right. JFS sounds like a definite option, then03:15
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ideafixwhat do you mean not really ?03:16
ccookebonez: I've heard no more horror stories about it than I've heard for XFS, which I've used a bit.03:16
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ideafixno really you mean they are03:16
gnomefreakideafix: same repos iirc but kubuntu does have a 3.5 repo for either ubuntu or kubuntu03:16
ccookebonez: but it *is* explicitly designed to be good for big files.03:16
ideafixiirc ?03:16
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gnomefreakiirc=if i remember correctly03:16
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petrjasonr_: found the .fonts .but there my font is not there. wat 2 do?03:17
bonezccooke, yea i have a few 100 m's and pictures here and there ..03:17
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ccookebonez: right.03:17
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ideafixwill ubunti become more like debian in the way you can distupgrade to the newest version ?03:17
gnomefreakideafix: the packages are the same for ubuntu and kubuntu so the repos should be same03:17
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damian_hmm cool i have vst's working in linux03:17
jasonr_petr: you have to copy your font to /home/username/.fonts03:18
ccookeideafix: what do you mean 'become' ?03:18
gnomefreakideafix: you can dist-upgrade03:18
gnomefreakideafix: ubuntu and debian commands are same03:18
ideafixit wont break ?03:18
ccookeideafix: well, as with debian, it'll depend what you dist-upgrade to.03:18
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gnomefreakideafix: if you dist-upgrading to dapper you can count on it breaking03:18
petrjasonr_: can i copy just like copying in windows (drag and drop)?03:18
bonezccooke, pff ..  let me ask you this way what would you use.. cus after making this disition i dont see myself finding a spare TB to change my fs to something else03:18
jasonr_petr: yes03:18
ccookeI would not, for instance, upgrade to dapper.03:18
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ccookebonez: hmm. To be honest, I trust ext3. It's very, very stable on linux.03:19
ideafixwill this thing gona be looked into in the future ?03:19
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gnomefreakideafix: what thing you can apt-get dist-upgrade all you want now03:19
ccookebonez: Take a look at mke2fs(8)03:19
ccookebonez: there are options to tailor it to large or small files.03:20
gnomefreaki just wouldnt upgrade to dapper03:20
ideafixive just been told it will break03:20
petrjasonr_: "Error not a directory"03:20
IdleOneideafix:  you need to be more specific. what do you think will break?03:20
gnomefreakideafix: dapper will break but if you are going from hoary to breezy you should be fine03:20
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MrZeroo00hi03:20
ccookeideafix: dapper isn't ready yet. Some work will be done on it to make dist-upgrade work when it's near release.03:21
ideafixso i can go from hoary to breezy and from breezy to dapper ?03:21
ccookeNo.03:21
ideafixso dapper is still beta?03:21
IdleOneyes03:21
gnomefreakideafix: yes you can but dont run dapper yet03:21
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ccookewwdapper isn't even beta, yet.03:21
gnomefreakalpha03:21
ideafixok03:21
Madpilotideafix: Dapper is still in development, it's not due for release for another 2 months03:21
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Dr_Willisive heard way too many 'upgrade' problems. :P i will just reinstall.. keeping my /home onits own hard drive.03:21
ccookeit's not actually gone to the preview release.03:21
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gnomefreakdapper is gonna be beta end of marchish03:21
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IdleOnealpha/pre-beta hehe03:22
ccookeDr_Willis: I have two 'root' partitions here for almost-risk-free upgrading :-)03:22
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ideafixA comes before B03:22
ccookeand a new home partition.03:22
jasonr_petr: make a directory in /home/username and call it '.fonts'03:22
gnomefreakalpha=greek for beginning :)03:22
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ideafixin english biggining starts with b :)03:23
IdleOnebeta + Greek For low maintenace fish :P03:23
IdleOne+ should be =03:23
gnomefreaklol03:23
ideafixlow maintenace fish ?03:23
IdleOnehahaha just a joke03:23
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gnomefreakideafix: if you want a stable system dont run dapper stick with breezy03:23
ideafixcould you explaint that joke ?03:24
IdleOnebeta is also a name for a type of fish03:24
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IdleOneand they are very easy to take care of03:24
kerrianwhy am I tempted, now that I'm back into using Linux, to start learning Java programming...03:24
IdleOneyou can forget to feed them for days and they dont die03:24
gnomefreaki love them :) they love to fight :)03:24
petrjasonr_:  mkdir .fonts03:24
petrmkdir: `.fonts' exists but is not a directory03:24
BockBilboanyone here uses the network manager tool?03:25
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gnomefreakmkdir ~/.fonts?03:25
Dr_WillisBeta - the fish that dies.. and you dont realize it for a week...- because they were so sluggish anyway...03:25
jasonr_petr: rm ~/.fonts && mkdir ~/.fonts03:25
IdleOnegnomefreak:  they are predators by nature but then again all beautiful things are e.g women03:25
gnomefreaklol03:25
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dempai got some advanced xorg.conf qustions, got a Nvidia 5700 vit 1xVGA, 1xDVI & 1xsvideo on it, got two crt monitors connected to the VGA & DVI connectors and seperate X sessions on each, now i want a third on the tv connected on the svideo port, is this even possible?03:26
gnomefreakgrrrrrrrrrrr03:26
petrjasonr_: ok done03:26
ideafixare cows predators ?03:26
gnomefreakideafix: yes to grass03:26
IdleOnelmfao03:26
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alejandro_hi03:27
IdleOneare cows beautiful?03:27
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jasonr_petr: okay, now just copy it in there03:27
ideafixyes03:27
kerrianfor futurereference, I loce my PSP03:27
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kerrianlove03:27
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kerrianplay station portable, by the way03:27
petrjasonr_: ok03:27
alejandro_i need help please03:27
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ideafixarent coes beutifull ?03:27
ideafixcows03:27
IdleOneI guess if you like cows yeah they are03:27
kerrianI am cow, hear me mo, i weight twice as much as you, and I look good on the barbeque03:27
ideafixthey are prettyer then pigs :)03:28
IdleOnethey make good milk and steaks so i like them for that03:28
kerrianyougurt, milk, cream cheese and butter comes from liquid out my udders, I am cow, I am cow, he me MOO-O03:28
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alejandro_anibody speak spanish?03:28
IdleOne!es03:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:28
IdleOnealli alejandro03:28
gnomefreakalejandro_: /join #ubuntu-es03:28
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SLSneakI need some sort of multiplayer notepad for ubuntu...03:29
cyblivioushas anyone installed xserver 7 in ubuntu breezy?03:29
kerrianI am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, and out my muzzle when I belch!03:29
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alejandro_hola03:29
lemsx1!xgl03:29
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:29
gnomefreaki hate dependencies :(03:29
IdleOnekerrian:  you have spent alot of time thinking about cows huh03:29
kerrianOh the ozone layer's thinner for the outcome of my dinner, I am cow, I am cow, I've got GAS-s03:29
ideafixlol IdleOne03:29
_mindspinkerrian are you from wisconsin?03:29
kerrianI am cow, her I stand, far and wide across this land, and I am living everywhere03:29
IdleOne_mindspin:  lmao03:29
tgahanybody has got a personal site to showcase? I would like to build a personal site and i don't know how to start?03:30
kerrianfrom BC to Newfoundland, you can squeeze my tits by and, I am cow, I am cow, I AM COW-W03:30
alejandro_gnome freak03:30
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IdleOne!html03:30
kerriannope03:30
alejandro_me puedes ayudar03:30
ideafixclaro qaue si03:30
gnomefreakhuh?03:30
alejandro_es la 1a vez ke uso linux03:30
kerrianthats a song me and a bunch of my friends made up one night wandering home piss loaded drunk from the bars03:30
ideafixpresopuesto que si03:30
gnomefreakthis is english speaking room :(03:30
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cyblivioushas anyone installed xserver 7 in ubuntu breezy?03:30
alejandro_haw can i get in a spanish room03:31
IdleOnealejandro:  vas por #ubuntu-es usas /join #ubuntu-es03:31
Madpilot!es03:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:31
gnomefreakcyblivious: im thinking not to advisable to do that03:31
kerrianstrange03:31
gnomefreakalejandro_: type /join #ubuntu-es03:31
cybliviouswhy?03:31
kerrianmy clock is wrong03:31
kerrianits saying it's 7:30 am03:31
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gnomefreakcyblivious: is it in the repos?03:31
kerrianwhen its actualy 11 am03:31
IdleOnekerrian:  perhaps it moved and didnt tell you lol03:32
ccookekerrian: you made up that song?03:32
cybliviousnot sure. just read about xserver 7 in its website and i like it's features03:32
ideafixthats de beuty of linux03:32
kerrianor I'm stuck in a time warp03:32
ideafixyou never know what to expect next :)03:32
kerrianbeen awake for like... 29 hours messing about with Ubuntu03:32
puslingwhat kernel version is expected to be shipped with dapper ? and how hard would it be to backport it to breezy ?  (weird udev conflicts and others)03:32
kerrianme and 3 or 4 of my friends, yeah ccooke03:32
ideafixkerrian: start counting sheep instead of cows03:32
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gnomefreakcyblivious: im thinking its not in breezy repos so i would stick with what you have. screwing with X is not advisable if you dont know what you are doing because without X people get lost03:33
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ccookekerrian: so, it has nothing to do with the Arrogant Worms, who recorded it a few years back and released it, huh?03:33
TokenBadin ubuntu would we rather use deb files or rpm files?03:33
gnomefreakpusling: 2.6.15.1503:33
ccookekerrian: unless you're one of them?03:33
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kerrianarrogant worms?03:33
jasonr_TokenBad: ubuntu debs03:33
cybliviousexactly the reason why i'm asking here first!! :)03:33
gnomefreakpusling: that is as of right now03:33
_mindspinT03:33
TokenBadjasonr_, shoot...03:33
IdleOneTokenBad:  you can try using rpm's but they wont work03:33
kerrianit was my friend Ryans idea03:33
ideafixhey theres a new virus from macs03:33
gnomefreakpusling: dapper isnt done so there is no telling what it will be in april03:34
ideafixkudus are in order :)03:34
TokenBadI was trying to get a shoutcast server working on ubuntu...03:34
TokenBadbut having trouble03:34
petrjasonr_: not able to paste it03:34
NogimicsSo is there a room for complete n00bs lol? or is anyone else here who has just installed ubuntu as thier first taste at Linux?03:34
kerrianhe claimed he was getting off the top of his head, along with Jason... but they are room mates, so I don't know what they get on with03:34
kerriangimmie a sec to check something03:34
jasonr_petr: why03:34
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ideafixdid you know there s anew virus for MACs ?03:34
IdleOneNogimics:  this is the room03:34
Nogimicsheh03:34
puslinggnomefreak: but one day, there might be a freeze of some kind ;)03:34
petri donno wether its pasted or not03:34
tgahanybody has got a personal site to showcase? I would like to build a personal site and i don't know how to start?03:34
gnomefreakNogimics: this is room for newbies and everyone else03:34
kerrianwell I'l be a monkeys bare assed uncle03:34
petri want to check weather the font is installed or not?03:34
ccookekerrian: do a search on google for 'I am cow'03:34
gnomefreakpusling: they froze it once already there is another one comming up03:35
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cybliviousjust my first time using linux and ubuntu 2 days ago03:35
jasonr_petr: ls ~/.fonts, see if it is listed03:35
cybliviousbut am getting the hang of it03:35
kerrianjust looked it up on limewire03:35
petrjasonr_: ok pls wait03:35
ccookeheh03:35
kerrianI'm going to lay the smackdown on Ryan and Jason03:35
ideafixis raiser4 in ubuntu ?03:35
gnomefreakpusling: seeing as its not even hit beta yet things cana nd will change03:35
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ideafix_jason: can kiss my ass03:35
petrjasonr_: the font is listed03:36
kerriandifferent jason03:36
_jasonpetr: then it is installed03:36
petrbut the browser doesnt show the font03:36
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IdleOnedidnt know that _jason  liked bare asses monkeys03:36
petrjasonr_: the site not readable still03:36
Kyohow do I switch to kde? I just finished installling it03:36
_jasonIdleOne: not this channel, do it in #idontcare or something03:36
cybliviousa quick question, when a new release of ubuntu is available, will i be able to upgrade easly? like from breezy?03:36
kerrianhmm03:36
ideafixkyo startkde03:36
gnomefreakKyo: go to the login screen and click sessions and kde03:36
puslinggnomefreak: ..but what about backporting it? would it be difficult ?03:36
damian_why wouldnt this be working i do a sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.003:36
IdleOne_jason:  do what ?03:36
kerrianis being awake for 29.6 hour a bad time to start learning java?03:37
_jasonIdleOne: non-support chatter03:37
gnomefreakpusling: backporting what?03:37
damian_the program io am trying to get to run still cant find jack03:37
ideafixkerrian: could you get out of my face ?03:37
IdleOne_jason:  k sorry03:37
puslinggnomefreak: dapper kernel to breezy ...03:37
ideafixgo to sleep03:37
gnomefreakpusling: backporting a kernel is never gonna happen03:37
TokenBadhas anyone done shoutcast and using xmms plugin to serve music to it or have any other ways that can serve music to shoutcast server on ubuntu?03:37
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gnomefreakkernel defines what version of ubuntu you are running03:37
kerrianschlaff ist fur dis svrechen03:38
ideafixwhats podcast ?03:38
gnomefreakor linux for that matter03:38
_jasonpetr: what font are you trying to install?03:38
ideafixwhats podcast ? is it making any inroads ?03:38
cybliviousso when i use breezy and dapper gets released, i'm stucked with breezy?03:38
petrits a hindi font03:38
gnomefreakcyblivious: no03:38
ardchoilleare there any pitfalls with installing kubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu?03:38
Madpilotpetr: have you seen the FontInstall wiki page?03:38
_jasoncyblivious: no, you can upgrade03:38
petrya i seen03:38
damian_why wouldnt this be working i do a sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.003:38
damian_the program io am trying to get to run still cant find jack03:38
cyblivioustahnks03:38
cybliviousthanks03:39
_jasonpetr: close the program and open it again, if that doesn't work, logout and log back in03:39
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cybliviousi've installed kubuntu-desktop to ubuntu03:39
puslinggnomefreak: I thought that versions defined what version you was runnig. On other distros you can update kernel - or update rest without updating kernel ...03:39
cybliviousand i liked what i saw03:39
petrok _jason:  i ll try03:39
ideafixany one knows what podcasts are ?03:39
Dr_Willisdamian_,  recheck that command.. i dont see what that would do anything at all..03:39
ardchoillecyblivious: did it cause any problems?03:39
ideafixdo you need an ipod ?03:39
IdleOneideafix:  try google03:39
kerrianquestion: is there a java compiling utility bundled with ubuntu? been looking through stuff and can't seem to find one03:39
cybliviousso far, no03:39
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ideafixIdleOne: you dont know ?03:40
gnomefreakpusling: the kernel is realeased per version you can build own kernel but i dont think you will ever beable to build the 2.6.15.15 for breezy03:40
Madpilotideafix: they're just sound files that you download & listen to - have a look at lugradio.org for a good Linux podcast03:40
damian_Dr_Willis: linking to a library03:40
lemsx1ideafix: this is not the right place for those questions03:40
damian_Dr_Willis: what am i meant to link to03:40
IdleOneyes i do but this is a ubuntu support channel as _jason  stated earlier :)03:40
cybliviousthen changed to k7 kernels and ver81 nvidia drivers03:40
ideafixisnt it the sames has shoutcast ?03:40
cybliviousseems everythings goog03:40
cybliviousseems everythings good03:40
Dr_Willisdamian_,  i dont see that it linked to anything. seems like part of the command is missing.. or it got pasted wrong.03:40
puslinggnomefreak: what has happened since  breezy that might confligct ?03:41
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Dr_Willisdamian_,  ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.0      - isent linking TO anything.03:41
damian_ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.003:41
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ale__Ciao a tutti, chi mi pu aiutare a risolvere un problema con la scheda audio?03:41
ideafixis ubuntu reiser4 readdy ?03:41
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Dr_Willisln -s foo foo203:41
_mindspinideafix: its just mp3s, they call it podcast and demand ther re invention of wheel03:41
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Madpilot!it03:41
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:41
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gnomefreakpusling: what do you mean conflict what are you trying to do03:41
damian_im confused simply ins there not being found waht do i do03:41
damian_lol03:41
Dr_Willisdamian_,  learn how to use 'ln -s' :P03:41
damian_its there being found*03:41
cyblivioussorry but what's reiser4? isn't that the file system?03:41
ideafixyes03:42
puslinggnomefreak: getting a newer kernel on my breezy. have some unidentified not working pci-express thingies.03:42
Madpilotdamian_: ln -s needs both a target & destination - you've only got target there03:42
TomaszDexcuse me, I have a problem. after pairing a bluetooth device in gnome-phone-manager, it crashes. Start it up again and it crashes immidiately. This happens in Breezy and Dapper current (today's daily cd).03:42
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gnomefreakpusling: you can not get the 2.6.15.15 for breezy the latest kernel for breeezy is 2.6.1203:42
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Dr_Willisits odd that  its in   /lib/jack/libjack.so.0   also..   i cant recall ever seeing libs in a subdir.03:42
gnomefreakthat is the latest kernel for breezy03:42
damian_oh that pasted wrong03:42
ideafixis ubuntu reiser4 fs readdy ?03:42
damian_acually speaking of03:43
SLSneakSay, my friend who recently installed Ubuntu 5.10 x64 on his computer is having a really wierd problem with sudo. It prompts for password, but the password is shown in clear text, and typing the correct password doesn't do anything...03:43
damian_where would jack usualy be installed03:43
kerrianwell thats a first for me03:43
gnomefreakSLSneak: it wont type anything no stars nothing03:43
ideafixi think im gona isntall debian03:43
kerrianfirst tim I've installed a linux OS, and the kernel is actually up to date...03:43
_mindspingood idea03:43
cybliviousi thought reiser is already an option upon installing breezy03:43
gnomefreakSLSneak: type password and hit enter it will let you know if right or wrong03:43
BockBilboanyone knows where to change the rights mysqld gives to /var/run/mysqld ?03:44
BockBilbo:S03:44
ideafixcan i use ubuntu repos with debian ?03:44
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SLSneakgnomefreak> It shows every character typed in clear text. Wrong password gives: "Wrong password". Correct password goes back to prompt03:44
_mindspinI wouldn't03:44
gnomefreakideafix: its not advisable it can lead to a broken system03:44
puslinggnomefreak: I knowwhat kernel is with breezy right now. But I am thinking of backporting latest dapper kernel unless there would be massize udev conflicts or other stuff03:44
_mindspinlfs would be the best for you ideafix03:45
cybliviouspusling: how's the backporting?03:45
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gnomefreakpusling: i think trying to backport it will give you more headaches than its worth03:45
_mindspinor gentoo03:45
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EnverexAnyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?03:45
ideafixi friend of mine tells me ubuntu is just debians test bed03:45
m0waxhow to I list all the packages on my system that include the letters vnc03:45
MadpilotSLSneak: what happens with the gui admin tools? Try System --> Admin --> Synaptic Package Manager03:45
gnomefreakideafix: no thats what etch is03:45
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SLSneakMadpilot, > Doesnt work either, entering the correct password just removes the prompt.03:46
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MadpilotSLSneak: has someone added a root pw to Ubuntu?03:46
ideafixim gona have to install ubuntu because um baned from #debian03:46
EnverexAnyone?03:46
[Ubuntu] BugHey i have a remote FTP site that I have access to and it has many files witch i would like to DL... I'm using ftp by terminal and i can seem to DL any files... The files are in the NTFS format and im sure that that is the reason why i cant dl any of the files.. the files themselves are .tar.gz files (they are Ubuntu theme packages...)03:46
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foampeacehellooo03:47
stjepanwhy does ubuntu has so poor tech. support (look at gentoo tech. support)03:47
foampeaceanyone tried the northland game demo?03:47
stjepan?03:47
gnomefreakpusling: i can promise a few things if you get 2.6.15 running on breezy you will have a hell of a time with it since all the depends have changed and with breezy repos you will not beable to get the depends03:47
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stjepanand it is quite hard to hack ubuntu :(03:47
ideafixthey seem very keen at enforcing premanent bans03:47
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SLSneakMadpilot, >Can't say for sure. But it's a fresh install. I can't get a hold of him right now, I was just wondering whether it was a known problem and had a quick fix. He's set on reinstalling anyway...03:48
ideafixwhy is that stjepan  ?03:48
_mindspin"im gona have to install ubuntu because um baned from #debian" and did you learn anything by that ideafix ?03:48
stjepanideafix: what?03:48
foampeaceideafix: who does permbans03:48
ideafixyes ive learned they are pricks03:48
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IdleOnefamous last words!03:48
m0waxhow to I list all the packages on my system that include the letters vnc03:48
MadpilotSLSneak: reinstall if it's a new install anyway, be sure and do a standard install...03:48
gnomefreakm0wax: apt-cache search vnc03:49
gnomefreakyou might want to pipe it less03:49
SLSneakMadpilot, will do, thx03:49
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_mindspinideafix: for your needs and level of expertise I would suggest you to get you Linux from Scratch03:49
brennerhe might want to pipe through grep vnc more like it03:49
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Gyuszkhi03:49
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ideafixim going for gentoo03:50
ideafixits the same thing03:50
damian_am i doing this wrong03:50
EnverexSame as what?03:50
damian_ sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libjack.so.0 /lib03:50
damian_ln: `/lib/libjack.so.0': File exists03:50
_jasondamian_: that's the old jack03:50
stjepanideafix: why?03:50
m0waxgnomefreak:  Does that not only list the packages in the repositories that contain *vnc*?  I just want to list the ones that I have installed on my system03:50
puslinggnomefreak: what kind of depends are you talkin about ?03:50
_mindspinwether he chats here or in #gentoo03:50
ideafixthe only problem is that im banned over there too03:50
colmDid the user who was wanting to set his session languge get an answer? , a client just phoned so I had to go afk for a while03:50
_jasondamian_: that's why it is going to be difficult03:50
stjepanideafix: why gentoo?03:50
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damian_i gove up been trying for 2 hours03:51
ideafixi was talking to MindFreak03:51
_mindspinyou are begging for bans don't you?03:51
ideafixi was talking to _mindspin03:51
stjepanideafix: I have used gentoo for some time and I switched to ubuntu because it isnt very good to use gentoo as desktop03:51
damian_anyone know when the newest jack should be available03:51
[Ubuntu] BugHey i have a remote FTP site that I have access to and it has many files witch i would like to DL... I'm using ftp by terminal and i can seem to DL any files... The files are in the NTFS format and im sure that that is the reason why i cant dl any of the files.. the files themselves are .tar.gz files (they are Ubuntu theme packages...)03:51
Enverexstjepan, How come?03:51
damian_anyone know when the newest jack should be available in apt-get form :)03:51
_jasondamian_: if it's in dapper make a request for a backport on the forums03:51
ideafixare you mad ? gentoo is what ever you make of it03:51
ideafixits all about choice03:52
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Madpilotdamian_: you're doing the symlink wrong - read "man ln", please03:52
IdleOneideafix:  and we have all chosen ubuntu so how about you ask about ubuntu03:52
damian_i did explain to me then03:52
damian_its confusing me03:52
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ideafix IdleOne you tryed gentoo yet ?03:53
ideafixi bet you havent03:53
IdleOneubotu:  kick ideafix03:53
ubotuIdleOne: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:53
brennerm0wax: just use synaptic03:53
EnverexIs there a Reiser channel anywhere?03:53
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IdleOneEnverex:  try #reiser03:53
IdleOnedont know if it exists03:53
damian_madpilot03:53
Madpilotdamian_: you need both a source & a destination to symlink something - you're saying 'link "this bit" over to "here"' to the computer...03:54
ideafixreiser is the best file system03:54
EnverexIdleOne, it doesn't03:54
Enverexideafix, .... ok03:54
ideafixits endorsed by DARPA03:54
IdleOneEnverex:  sorry that was my best guess03:54
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user__hello everybody03:54
EnverexWell, I'm crazy, I'm using Reiser4 on AMD64 :P03:54
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liquidindianUsing gnomebaker, should I have "Rock Ridge" selected if the DVD will be used on windows?03:54
ideafixext3 sucks fsk03:54
damian_i have source is /usr/local/lib/ maybe in not exactly sure where this program is looking for jack because i am doing it right03:55
Cometanybody in here use an Azalea chipset onboard soundcard?03:55
ideafixi think this linux channels are venting to much missinformation03:55
gnomefreak!anyone03:55
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>03:55
petrjasonr_: its working after a restart03:55
_jasonpetr: k03:55
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damian_hey this is apparently available anyway but its not showing up03:56
petrjasonr_: 10x03:56
Cometgood lord03:56
damian_E: Couldn't find package libjack0.100.0-dev03:56
damian_can someone else try for me tell me if it is?03:56
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Comet!gay03:56
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gnomefreakdamian_: run apt-cache search libjack all the ones that are avilable from repos03:57
EnverexIs there a filesystem channel on Freenode?03:57
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thomerzhi, i have installed ubuntu with the "server" option, now i have no symbols, sinalising the lenght when i type in a password, how do i geht them back?03:57
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damian_libjack0.80.0-0 - JACK Audio Connection Kit (libraries)03:57
damian_libjack0.80.0-dev - JACK Audio Connection Kit (development files)03:57
IdleOneEnverex:  type /list it will list all channels on the network03:57
damian_already did03:57
_jasonthomerz: that's normal03:57
Scarboroughhow can I check if i have the latest version of java?03:57
_jasonScarborough: java -version03:57
EnverexIdleOne, XChat makes kinda a mess of that, so much so that it's unreadable03:57
thomerz_jason, hmmm but how do i get them?03:57
Scarborough_jason: and if I want to upgrade?03:58
IdleOnego to windows channel list03:58
_jasonthomerz: no idea, that's so no one can see the length of your password03:58
EnverexThanks03:58
gnomefreakdamian_: than that is what you are able to get from repos you can more than likely get the tar.gz and compile it but is it worth it in long run03:58
_jasonubotu: tell Scarborough about java03:58
IdleOnenp03:58
[Ubuntu] BugHey i have a remote FTP site that I have access to and it has many files witch i would like to DL... I'm using ftp by terminal and i can't seem to DL any files... The files are in the NTFS format and im sure that that is the reason why i cant dl any of the files.. the files themselves are .tar.gz files (they are Ubuntu theme packages...)03:58
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Madpilotthomerz: in the command line, your password is never echoed, not even as a row of *******03:59
puslingwhat is the right dpkg --something file.deb  to check wether the depends can be installed ?03:59
liquidindianIf it's only going to be used on windows, should I uncheck it to be sure?  Does it matter?03:59
thomerzhmm ok03:59
meenfreemhi people03:59
Sebafiles can't be in NTFS format... maybe on a NTFS filesystem03:59
colm[Ubuntu] Bug, the format doesn't matter03:59
damian_and brings me back to my initial problem i installed from source but it wont find it thaught apt-get would be easier isnt available yet03:59
thomerzwhat filemanager would you recommed for xfce? is there any alternative where i can type in the location, as in nautilus with ctrl-L ?04:00
damian_fuck it ibe given up for now just have to wait for these packages to become available and i can get this program working04:00
meenfreemhave a quick question.... a pcmcia card wants to know where my linux source tree is.... where the heck is it?04:00
Morfosomo[Ubuntu] Bug, check the files have the right premisions04:00
gnomefreakdamian_: jack 100 is not able to be gotten from apt in breezy04:00
brennerdamian_: should've used checkinstall04:00
Cometi use an msi motherboard with an Azalea onboard soundcard.. for some reason, whenever I change the volume whether it be through the main volume control properties, or in a program like XMMS, it doesn't adjust the volume properly.. its either all the way up, blaring, or muted completed.. and divx movies have a faint crackling in the background.. any clues?04:00
karlosthomerz .. : Xfe and ROX are good04:01
[Ubuntu] Bugyes but why does the site not let me dl any folders??04:01
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_jasondamian_: are you compiling the new version of muse as well?  you can probably set where it looks for libs04:01
damian_will it be04:01
brennerthomerz: you can use nautilus in xfce, just run it with the --no-desktop option (or something like that)04:01
EnverexDoes anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?04:01
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IdleOne[Ubuntu] Bug:  you may not have the right privilidges to d/l04:01
meenfreem_jason, errr help needed...again :D04:01
colm[Ubuntu] Bug, download folders?  try mget to get multiple files?04:01
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karlosthomerz: nautilus --no-desktop --browser04:01
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thomerzkarlos, i have rox, but i would like a field where i can type in the location04:02
thomerzand something smaler than nautilus04:02
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akambiHello Every body!04:02
karlostry Xfe04:02
brennerthomerz: mc maybe?04:02
akambiI wold like to install the last version of amsn on my Ubuntu distro.04:02
akambiCan anybody help me?04:02
NiekieHi akambi.04:03
IdleOne!amsn04:03
ubotuamsn is, like, at http://amsn.sourceforge.net04:03
damian_lmms: error while loading shared libraries: libjack.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:03
Cometcan't amsn be found in the synaptic package manager?04:03
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Daveyjust use GAIM04:03
IdleOneyeah I think so04:03
damian_someone tell me exactly what to type to make this find /usr/lib04:03
Madpilotakambi: if you've got a question, just ask it and someone should be able to help...04:03
gnomefreakComet: yes it can be but depends what version you are looking for04:03
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NiekieI think amsn is in the Universe repositories.04:03
morphixi totally forgot this.. but how do i mount a ntfs partition so all users can read it?04:04
akambiI already have the package of amsn0.9504:04
morphixjust the command in shell04:04
gnomefreak!info amsn04:04
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB04:04
Cometthe version that's easiest to install :)04:04
Comethehe04:04
karlosdamian_: try installing the jack dev packages/librarys04:04
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gnomefreakits in universe :)04:04
NiekieYup :)04:04
damian_hmm ive given up have them installed04:04
akambibut I dont know what to do with it04:04
Cometi can't quite figure out this sound issue.. the volume just blares at full volume, or muted completely.. nothing in between04:05
colmakambi: to install the latest versions of things you typically need to install from source04:05
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damian_will the 0.100.0  vcersion ever be available?04:05
damian_will the 0.100.0  vcersion ever be available?04:05
damian_will the 0.100.0  version ever be available?04:05
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blisshello all04:05
colmakambi, if you're not sure how to do this, perhaps it's better to make do with the stable version provided in the repository04:05
Seveashi bliss04:05
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akambicolm: I ve find the last version of amsn on its homepage04:05
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blisshi Seveas04:06
karlosdamian_ : get demudi and dual boot it with ubuntu and do your music with that .. that's what I do. I also have a machine running Planet CCRMA and I've started messing about with musix04:06
colmakambi, what benefit does the latest version give you that makes you think you need it?04:06
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akambicolm: I was used to work with mandriva, thats why I dont know how to manage pacjkages with Ubuntu04:07
blissroot@40as# netstat -at | grep 3281204:07
blisstcp        0      0 localhost:ssh           localhost:32812         ESTABLISHED04:07
blissdoes this mean ssh is on port 32812 and not 2204:07
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akambicolm: The latest version support webcam04:07
IdleOneakambi:  in terminal sudo apt-get install amsn04:07
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karlosdamian : Musix already uses the jack 1.004:07
Seveasbliss, no, it means that the client connects from port 32812 to the server running on port ssh (22), try netstat -nat | grep 2204:08
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colmakambi, ok that seems a worthy addition!  you'll have to read the instructions on the amsn website for installing04:08
karlosit's an argentinian distro04:08
karlosnow comes in english too04:08
akambiThanx IdleOne ! I ll try That one04:08
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varsendaggerhey, i have a commision to design a animation of a small room i need to be able to move around in this room, what should i use to accomplish this?04:09
colmakambi, that will install version 0.94, does that version have the feature you want?04:09
karlosvarsendagger : blender04:09
Seveasvarsendagger, blender?04:09
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Seveaskarlos, hehe 04:09
damian_probably the best idea04:09
dylan_How do I view my Windows Network in the Network Servers thingy?04:09
colmvarsendagger, quake3?04:09
akambiIdleOne: I gett this error msg: couldnt find pakage04:10
dylan_Nothing shows up?04:10
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gnomefreaki didnt think the amsn version in breezy had cam support but i dont use it so im not really sure04:10
varsendaggerhave you guys done anything like that?04:10
akambiwhereas the package is in my home dir04:10
Seveasvarsendagger, not me 04:10
blissSeveas you see I cannnot connect to my computer from uotside for some reason only router firewall and that has port forward 22 tcp tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN04:10
blisstcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:22            127.0.0.1:32812         ESTABLISHED04:10
blisstcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:32812         127.0.0.1:22            ESTABLISHED04:10
mopatophey guys anyone know if it's possible to netboot a breezy live CD? we need to rescue a machine with no floppy or CD, and we can't get at the HDD04:10
[balayhashi] How can I verify if my raid device is working?04:10
gnomefreakakambi: you need universe enabled04:10
Seveasbliss, please don't paste in here...04:10
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blisssorry04:10
varsendaggercolm good idea04:10
akambignomefreak: How can I enable universe?04:10
gnomefreakubotu tell akambi about universe04:11
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Seveasbliss, netstat -tln, output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:11
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kyoWhats the command to switch to KDE?04:11
gnomefreakakambi: read the pm ubotu sent you04:11
gnomefreakkyo: log out of gnome and click on sessions and choose kde04:11
blissSeveas ok04:11
colmkyo, have you installed kde?04:11
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kyocolm, yes04:11
kyojust now ...04:11
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kyodo I need to restart?04:11
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colmfollow gnomefreak's advice04:12
gnomefreakis there something like dreamweavers for ubntu04:12
damian_musix?04:12
karlosgnomefreak : yes .. nvu04:12
colmgnomefreak, nvu - but it's poor in comparison04:12
kyognomefreak, I did but the KDE option didn't show up04:12
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akambithanx Ubotu04:12
gnomefreakkyo: run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:12
gnomefreakthanks guys ill look at it04:12
puslinggnomefreak: whatabout quanta or bluefish or something like that ?04:13
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gnomefreakpusling: never used them but ty i will check on them04:13
kyognomefreak, if I do that it wants to install the whole thing over again (takes hours of my time ...) when I was installing a few files didn't install ...04:13
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karlosdamian_ : http://www.musix.org.ar/en/index.html04:13
colmquanta and bluefish are more HTML editors thoug...04:13
varsendaggerwhat is musix?04:13
karlosa music distro04:13
varsendaggersorry i got it04:14
karloslike demudi04:14
adubdoes anyone know where kismet logs are kept04:14
kyoSo whats the command line to start KDE? I'm curious04:14
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puslingstartkde ?04:14
gnomefreakkyo: if you did it the first time than it shouldnt do it again04:14
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kyohmm04:14
gnomefreakif it does it again than it wasnt installed the first time04:14
kyofine let me apt-get again and lets see ...04:14
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kyognomefreak, when I run sudo apt-get it says "0 upgrade, 135 newly installed" it takes up 319mbs... install? If I press yes, will it unpack or fetch the files from ubuntu server?04:16
akambiI ve enabled Universe and backport but I just find the amsn0.94 version and the cvs version.04:16
adubwhere does kismet keep log files?04:16
gnomefreakkyo: sudo apt-get what?04:16
kyosudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:17
mandavidid someone succeed with using gaijm in combination with a talk.google account?04:17
IdleOneadub: /kismet/logs  ?04:17
gnomefreakkyo: that tells me its not installed04:17
blissSeveas done as suggested to bastebin04:17
gnomefreakkyo: it will grab the files from server first than unpack and install them04:17
akambiCan't I install a package I ve download from the web, without using repositories?04:17
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Adri2000akambi: yes you can04:18
kyoBut I spent 4 hours downloading it ...04:18
gnomefreakakambi: depends what type of file it is04:18
Adri2000akambi: sudo dpkg -i the_package.deb04:18
kyoI think I aborted before it can finish installing or something04:18
kyobut there was an error ...04:18
adubidleone thank i found it /var/logs/kismet04:18
IdleOnethere you go :)04:18
akambiThanx Adri200004:18
gnomefreakkyo: they might be downloaded already than04:18
kyognomefreak, yes thats what I think it is ...04:18
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kyognomefreak, so whats the command line to switch to kde?04:19
gnomefreakkyo: but they are not installed04:19
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kyoI see04:19
gnomefreakrun it again and should install them unless you get more errors04:19
kyoSo instead of apt-get install what command do I use04:19
kyoHmm04:19
gnomefreakkyo: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:19
Linuxchipshello....i have a question about acpi_fakekey? Can somebody help me, please.04:19
Adri2000!ask04:19
kyomy bad ... I see its just installing files that it missed previously, not the whole thing04:20
gnomefreak!+ask04:20
ubotu[ask]  just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html04:20
IdleOnekyo if the packages are on your system apt-get install package.name will install the04:20
Adri2000:)04:20
IdleOnethem *04:20
Linuxchipsin acpi_fakekey i have only aliases. where is the real code?04:20
mopatophey guys anyone know if it's possible to netboot a breezy live CD? we need to rescue a machine with no floppy or CD, and we can't get at the HDD04:20
IdleOne!netboot04:20
ubotunetboot is, like, totally, a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot04:20
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Linuxchips@Adri2000 do you know what I mean?04:21
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Adri2000no sorry Linuxchips i don't know04:22
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petris there a way to show a blinking icon similar to winxp when i get connected to the net?04:22
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petri want to know when internet is used and when internet is not used04:23
Seveaspetr, add the network monitor to your panel04:23
MrKiplittle question what is a descent tool for rar file support in ubuntu 6404:23
Adri2000petr: maybe a gnome applet ? network monitor04:23
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mopatopIdleOne: I don't want to do an install though, I need to boot a live CD04:23
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petrhi how to add those things04:23
Linuxchipsis anybody out there who can tell me where i`ll found the "real code" behind a fakekey????04:23
Adri2000petr: right click > add04:23
ProtexGuys, how do I register my nickname in here? The bot thingy is telling me too, =o.04:24
petrgr804:24
Adri2000Protex: on freenode ? /msg nickserv help register04:25
Protexthank you!04:25
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MrKipdoes anyone know if unrar (or something like it) exists in 64 bits04:26
ProtexNothing in the repos?04:26
IdleOnemopatop:  sorry but I dont know how to netboot a livecd04:26
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vigneshhi04:27
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mopatopIdleOne: okay cheers04:27
[Ubuntu] BugHey, I am using FTP from terminal and connect to the remote site fine and i can see all my files... But when I try to DL the files using 'mget' it asks me to name the remote file (i do) and the local file to save the info (i do) and then it comes up with two messages asking if i want to DL the two folders and a say 'yes' and then the errors come...  '200 PORT Command Sucessfull 550 Ubuntu Theme: The system cannot find the file' any reason why 04:27
vigneshThis is my first time on #ubuntu...04:28
IdleOnevignesh:  welcome04:28
ProtexYes, welcome!04:28
vigneshThanks...04:28
ProtexIt's my first time on IRC in general, lol04:28
vigneshDo I have to signup or something...04:28
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MrKipProtex: dunno cant find it probly just me mind giving it a look04:29
gnomefreakbbl04:29
IdleOnevignesh:  if you want you can register your nickname04:29
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vigneshHow ?04:29
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IdleOnevignesh:  type /msg nickserv help register04:29
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blissSeveas can you take a look at pastebin please and tell me what you think04:30
ProtexMrKip: I'm on 32BIT, we would have different repos I think.04:30
vigneshREGISTER plm123qaz04:30
ProtexMrKip: How'd you get the text red btw?04:30
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vigneshSET04:30
[Ubuntu] BugAnyone: any help04:30
m0waxI can't get my vncserver on ubuntu to use kde can anyone help?  I think its something to do with my ~/.vnc/xstartup configuration04:31
blhello all..04:31
IdleOnevignesh:  all comands to nicksev start with /msg nickserv04:31
Seveasbliss, I think that looks alright04:31
brennerProtex: if someone uses your nick, the post will be highlighted for you04:31
bli hope to give help if you can..04:31
ProtexAhh, thanks brenner!04:31
brennerwelcome04:31
bldoes anyone here can support me as to install a minimal ubuntu into mys usb stick??04:32
bl1GB04:32
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blissSeveas how can I check if anything is blocking port 22 --my isp is not04:32
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Seveasbl, search the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com/Installing is a good starting point04:32
TokenBadhas anyone done shoutcast and using xmms plugin to serve music to it or have any other ways that can serve music to shoutcast server on ubuntu?04:33
Seveasbliss, did you mess with any kind of firewall on your machine? If not, then it's your router 04:33
blalready seen..04:33
adrican ubuntu package be installed in debian system?04:33
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g-thunderhallo04:33
g-thunderuogrzkopfhkhjklhgjklghjklghjklghjklghjklghghl04:33
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bli found if possible an user already make this approach..04:33
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Seveasadri, it may cause problems04:34
adriok....04:34
Seveasadri, if you insist on it, recompile the package on your debian system04:34
xualoanyone from australia? i need the source list please04:34
Seveas!tell xualo about easysource04:34
adrii thought so... but not  sure04:34
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blissSeveas there is a firewall but I notice that on boot up its not configured so IT does not start --but is there way of checking if 22 is being blocked04:35
adriwhere can i find how to recompile package on debian system?04:35
xualoi this thing will fix my source list?04:35
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brennerxualo: why? what's wrong with it?04:35
Seveasbliss, iptables -L04:35
IdleOnexualo:  it should tell you how to fix it04:35
xualoahh ok04:35
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UBUNTUhi...04:36
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xualoi coz i put another list from US and when i put apt-get update it says please repair or fix your source list :\04:36
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foampeacehi04:36
xualoi'll see if i can fix it04:36
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UBUNTUAnyone created their own custom version of Ubuntu livecd ?04:36
foampeacehow do i launch something with a keyboard shortcut...i see predefined gnome shortcuts04:36
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jetscreamermake a new one04:37
_jasonubotu: tell foampeace about shortcut04:37
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UBUNTUPress the keyboard shortcut..04:37
IdleOneUBUNTU:  and your english has improved greatly since you changed your nick04:37
foampeacethanks04:37
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UBUNTUWhat ?04:38
djpjust installed ubuntu, however i get a ntp synchronization failure on boot. how do i fix this?04:38
IdleOnenm04:38
jetscreamerhim say you speekee english doubleplusgooder04:38
foampeacewhats xkill?04:38
IdleOnelmfao jetscreamer04:38
jetscreameran x version of kill ?04:38
UBUNTUOk....This is my first time here....04:38
IdleOnefunny you have the same username as vignesh04:38
jetscreameror frontend to maybe04:38
jetscreamer!info xkill04:39
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ubotuxkill: (X client - xkill), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.99.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 60 kB04:39
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UBUNTUReally...I thought i changed it...04:39
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IdleOneindeed04:39
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foampeacemaybe xkill is more agressive kill like kill the process04:39
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UBUNTUI get it now... :D I tried registering but it failed...04:39
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jetscreamer/ns help register04:40
EnglaHeyhey. I can't get notify-send to work... it just stalls and nothing shows up if I try to send anything04:40
blissSeveas I have pasted it in pastbin ---nothing showing as far as I can see04:40
UBUNTU@ IdleOne... Have you made your own custom livecd based on Ubuntu ?04:40
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brennerdjp: searched the forum yet?04:40
IdleOneUBUNTU:  no I have not04:40
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UBUNTUIdleone : I did one last week...A very minor update..Added beep media player,vlc and gcc04:41
blackinganyone with experience about yaboot under Ubuntu??04:41
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UBUNTUI am planning to remove openoffice and add a few packages for college use..04:42
YorchiDapper Drake, At least! :)04:42
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UBUNTUWhat do you use Idleone ?04:42
IdleOneUBUNTU:  dont you think openoffice would be useful to a college student?04:42
djpbrenner, looking... it tells me how to disable ntp if it is slow at startup, but i wondered if i could just get it working?04:42
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UBUNTUIdleOne : Its too slow... on  a low end system..04:43
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IdleOnegranted04:43
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djpbrenner, i found this... http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id252466704:43
UBUNTUHow come your colour changed ?04:43
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brennerdjp: did you config your net setup at install?  b/c ntpdate is synching the clock with an external server04:43
screachwow  there are a lot of users here04:44
akambithanx every body!! I succeeded to install Amsn_0.9504:44
IdleOneUBUNTU:  because I didnt type your nick04:44
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Madpilotdjp: you can set ntp up to run while Ubuntu is running04:44
UBUNTUWhat else do you think I can add /remove to free up space ?04:44
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djpbrenner, yes. everything seems to be working fine apart from ntp at startup...04:44
UBUNTUI have got to learn a lot here..04:44
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UBUNTUI am using X-Chat..What about  you ?04:44
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IdleOne!devellop04:44
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne04:44
IdleOne!develop04:44
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne04:44
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IdleOnebeats me dude04:44
akambiI am using Amule, and the server tells me that i have a low ID cuz I am behind a firewall, Thus I ve not configure one04:45
akambiDoes anybody know how i can fix that04:45
UBUNTUOh...04:45
ablomenakambi, your router could have one04:45
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UBUNTUWhat do you use ?04:45
kwiatoot up breezy 64 i'm getting (the only) failure of "mount local filesystems". my system is completely usable but doesnt displays the windows partition and an fat32 file exchange partition (both arranged before). do you have an idea?04:45
brennerdjp: by failure i take it you mean you get a [fail]  thing at the right of screen, but you can still login and run gnome?04:46
akambiAblomen: In that case hat can I do04:46
kwiatsorry, my message was: i need help - everytime i boot up breezy 64 i'm getting (the only) failure of "mount local filesystems". my system is completely usable but doesnt displays the windows partition and an fat32 file exchange partition (both arranged before). do you have an idea?04:46
ablomenakambi, look at the manual of your router to see how you can open the ports that amule needs04:46
akambiok thanx04:47
ablomennp good luck04:47
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UBUNTUBye...IdleOne... See you maybe tomorrow if you will chat then...04:47
akambikwiat: have U tried to edit the fstab file?04:47
UBUNTUquit04:47
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djpbrenner, yes04:47
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kwiatakambi, sorry i'm a newbie04:48
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colmn04:48
djpbrenner, eveything gives an ok except for the ntp sync, which displays fail04:48
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kwiatakambi how can i do that04:48
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akambiwhat kind of partyition do you have kwiat04:48
kwiatakambi could there be any log file showing what problem i have?04:48
kwiatakambi, what do you mean?`04:49
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farousam trying to change the default open program to open .lyx files on nautiluse useng the open with menu from properties but does not seem to work. Anyone knows how can i set it and why it is not working04:49
brennerdjp: i had the same problem.  my guess is that the n/work is being setup *after* the synch attempt.  but i'm not certain that that is the case04:49
pigorhi :-) is there any german speaking ubuntu channel?04:49
_mindspinyep04:49
EnverexAnyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?04:49
_mindspin!ntfs04:49
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:49
djpbrenner, did you disable the service?04:49
brennerpigor: #ubuntu-de04:49
_mindspinthat was for you akambi04:49
ablomenfarous, try right klicking on a .lyx file and look at the last tab04:49
akambiopen the file /etc/fstab with gedit04:50
brennerdjp: yes.  but i'm on dialup, so i'm not connected at bootup anyway. :)04:50
pigorbrenner: thank you04:50
ablomenfarous, i meant right klick, the properties04:50
akambikwiat: open the file /etc/fstab with gedit04:50
kwiatakambi ok! ill do so04:50
lemsx1Enverex: fdisk -l /dev/hda ??04:50
farousablomen: that is what i am doing. whenever i check the lyx program i just get an empty field04:50
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alvaro_hol04:51
djpbrenner, ah, ok. :)04:51
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Winnfieldhi, can anyone help me? i'm trying to compile a program but i take an error (/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl)04:51
YoniHi all04:51
djpbrenner, thanks all the same....04:51
ablomenfarous, when you open it in a editor? (thats what you want to do right?)04:51
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akambikwiat: This file display partitions that will be mounted at startup04:51
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farousablomen: i wnt the default appl to open .lyx files to be lyx04:51
alvaro_hola04:51
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YoniHow can I FULLY uninstall a package that I installed via "apt-get install" from the console[ ? ] 04:51
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YoniI'm connecting to my Linux box from a remote box via an SSH connection..04:52
kwiatakambi ive sent you a personal message04:52
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farousis it because lyx a qt program ?04:52
_jasonYoni: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename04:52
ablomenfarous, ok thats right klick => properties => open with => add04:53
Enverexlemsx1, No, deffinately not04:53
Enverex/dev/sda3               1       10396    83505838+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:53
YoniThank you :)04:53
EnverexMy Reiser4 partition is deffinately not NTFS04:53
farousablomen: i am trying to do that but it is not working. I said that in my original post and ever since04:53
EnverexRandom shots in the dark aren't going to help...04:53
lemsx1Enverex: weird. i guess you formatted that partition after a windows installation created it?04:54
farousablomen: i select the program from the list then hitting enter does not add it to the openweith list04:54
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Enverexlemsx1, : No, no I didn't04:54
ablomenfarous, ah ok04:54
Gyuszkbye04:54
Enverexfdisk will NOT tell me what version of reiser4 I am using04:54
lemsx1Enverex: fdisk doesn't lie04:54
lemsx1Enverex: the format of the partition is definitely different04:54
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ablomenfarous, wait a sec i had something for that im gonna look it up04:55
lemsx1Enverex: but the string for the "name" or type of the partition are set by whatever you used to create the partition04:55
farousthanx ablomen04:55
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akambikwiat: i didnt get Ur pm.04:55
lemsx1Enverex: i don't use reiser, so, i can't help you there.04:55
akambisorry04:55
akambiTry again04:55
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bsidehello04:56
bsidehow can i treat a rpm file ?04:56
JemtGreetings. We are holding a large computer gathering this week and was wondering how we can determine what ports are open on our internet connection - any suggestions?04:56
brennerbside: carefully.  they bite04:57
JemtIe I need to determine if the connection can be used for WoW04:57
_jasonbside: give it candy?  what are you trying to install?04:57
IdleOnelol04:57
bsidethe mc04:57
Jemt.. and ofcause I'm running Linux (don't have WoW installed)04:57
IdleOne!candy04:57
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne04:57
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Jemtbside: Midnight Commander?04:57
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bsideyes04:58
Jemtbside: Why not 'apt-get install mc' ?04:58
ablomenfarous, sorry i cant find it anymore i found it after a lot of googling, sorry04:58
blackinglink, book or other as start a small distro from scratch04:58
blackingtahnks04:58
farousno problem thanks for hour help though :)04:58
Jemtblacking: LinuxFromScratch (search google)04:58
kwiatsorry, can anyone help with this boot up error: "mounting local file system ... failed"?04:58
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ablomenfarous, you can try to make a litle bash script that opens the app and use that as standerd app04:59
damian_ha finally got this thing working04:59
bsideworking :) thx04:59
_jasondamian_: what did you end up doing?04:59
damian_renamed libjack0.100.0 to libjack.so.004:59
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Goshawkwhat are the differencies between "ia64" and "amd64"?04:59
damian_but thank you everyone for your help04:59
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bsidecan i see the ntfs partitions ?04:59
faroushmm might try that though it is strange it won't open directly04:59
damian_'temporary fix"04:59
bsidei mean the files on them04:59
brennerJemt: use firestarter to manage iptables maybe?  not sure.04:59
farousi have it listed in the programs list05:00
_jasondamian_: ok, but those things are managed by the package manager :/  you should really divert those and then do it if you have to do it that way.  Do the other apps that depend on jack still work?05:00
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farousi can even open the file with it :)05:00
damian_yep cos ir enamed the newer version05:00
damian_everythging else is using hte old one05:00
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ablomenfarous, yeah its strange, still a litle bit bugy nautilus i guess05:00
_jasondamian_: I see, so you just renamed what was in /usr/local?05:01
farous:)05:01
lab2hey, who is this??05:01
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brenneryo mama05:01
damian_there wasnt a libjack.so.0 in /usr.local/lib05:01
ablomenlab2, this is the ubuntu irc channel i guess ;)05:01
lab2is your05:01
damian_turns out thats what it was looking for all along and wheere it was05:02
Jemtbrenner: It's a firewall - I need to scan a network05:02
_jasondamian_: ah I see05:02
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YoniAlthough I tried to delete apache package with the cmd:  apt-get remove --purge packagename -- it showed lie it removed it from my DB tough all the files still exist in /etc/apache + /etc/init.d & so on... how can I FULLY remove it?05:02
damian_some reason the file i needed was called libjack.0.100.0.so.005:02
iGad_bigdiskhi05:02
Yoni*lie = like05:02
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ubuntu_hahello, can anybody tell me which package should i install to get phreads lib ?05:02
damian_i had rather05:02
damian_its late im not thinking staright lol05:03
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lab2ei, vc fala portugus05:03
_jason!pt05:03
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.05:03
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brennerdamian_: 4 past 3 right?05:03
iGad_bigdisksmall question... I have a brandnew server here with a 12 port 3ware 9550SX, containing about 5TB of HDD space... any chance I can use about 20GB for Ubuntu and the other 4.980TB for data (as one partion)?05:03
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damian_yes05:04
damian_where u from?05:04
lemsx1Goshawk: http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t5410.html http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/35963-cpu-naming-schemes-x86-386-486-586-amd-64-ia64-em64t.html05:04
Blixoubonjour  vous05:04
brennermelb05:04
ubuntu_ha?05:04
ubuntu_haanybody?05:04
inesanyone knows if firestarter allows to block an ip we provide graphically?05:04
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lemsx1ines: what's "graphically" ?05:04
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ablomeniGad_bigdisk, i think so, had problems with the fs?05:04
ivonchiholas05:04
damian_whoever was talking about muse and dehmudi i have vst's working now in linux its mad!!05:04
damian_fucking amazing to see excuse my language05:05
Goshawkhi lemsx105:05
lemsx1Goshawk: hello05:05
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lemsx1Goshawk: i'm not too sure what you meant by the differences of the two. but the first link answers most of those questions05:05
damian_next i gotta wait for this program lmms to be able to load all my fl projects and im set05:05
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iGad_bigdiskablomen: not yet... but the array seems to be divided into sda / sdb / sdc, although I did not configure this in the bios...05:05
lemsx1Goshawk: remember intel copied amd64 and rename it to EM64T05:05
Goshawkthanks, lemsx1 have you switched to ubuntu?05:06
lemsx1Goshawk: a long time ago05:06
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lemsx1Goshawk: i just finished installing Dapper on this box05:06
ablomeniGad_bigdisk, it doesnt seem to see the raid config right?05:06
Goshawksure? i thought you had a debian core :D05:06
iGad_bigdiskablomen: so I figured this must have something to do with partition size limitations or something05:06
brennerubuntu_ha: phreads?05:06
Davey|LaptopTML: any thoughts on this?05:06
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blackingfantastic resource linuxfromscratch05:07
iGad_bigdiskablomen: It does... although I needed dapper flight 3 to make the 3ware 9550 work05:07
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lemsx1Goshawk: ubuntu is debian :-)05:07
ProtexGuys I have a question, when I upgrade to Dapper I will need to reinstall VMware right? The modules won't just attach themselves to the new kernel?05:07
blackingbut is there anyone here with Apple experience??05:07
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ineslemsx1: meant that if we could use firestarter gui to do it, as I'm sure that there's a way through the command line.05:07
lemsx1Goshawk: just now i get my packages from ubuntu.com and not debian.org ;-)05:08
iGad_bigdiskblacking: depending on your problem... a little05:08
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lemsx1ines: ah, sure. there is a Policy section of Firestarter to allow you to add and remove IPs05:08
ablomeniGad_bigdisk, then you should have no problems, if it doesnt work with fdisk you should google about linux with big diskspaces, havnt got a 4tb box laing around here to try ;)05:08
xualothe list i got from this website (http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic) when i do apt-get update it says E: Some index files failed to download,You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems, any reason why?05:08
netsurf3hi all i am using ndiswrapper but i used the -m option in the wrong order (i didn't modprobe first) and the driver refuses to load on boot causing an majour irritation anychance of telling me what i need to change?05:08
iGad_bigdiskablomen: no time huh... I know the feeling :)05:08
Half-LeftNvidia driver will not work at all with Dapper, any ideas?05:09
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ablomeniGad_bigdisk, lol more like no money :p05:09
iGad_bigdiskablomen: errr... just missed the N in havnt :p05:09
blackingsure, i should install an ubuntu distro inside an external drive ..05:09
ProtexHalf-Left Dapper has the latest in the repositories "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"05:09
Goshawklemsx1, thank that link solved my question05:09
kwiatwhen im trying to mount a fat32 partition im getting this error message: kwiat@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /media/windows05:09
kwiatmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda7,05:09
kwiat       missing codepage or other error05:09
kwiat       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try05:09
kwiat       dmesg | tail  or so05:09
kwiatwhat does that mean?05:09
lemsx1Goshawk: i took what you typed and paste it just like that on Google.com ;-) the first link that came up was that05:09
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blackingmy machine is an powerbook g405:09
Half-LeftProtex: yes tried that and dont work, even a manual install dont work05:09
iGad_bigdiskablomen: ohwell... I'll try google then. Thanks anyway :)05:10
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DVSoftwarehello05:10
petrhow to open encrypted zip files (created by winzip)?05:10
ablomenablomen, good luck :)05:10
brennerkwiat: you aren't using the right syntax for one05:10
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DVSoftwarei'd like to ask one thing05:10
ProtexHalf-Left: Sorry, I have no idea then. Is nvidia-kernel-source installed?05:10
Half-LeftProtex: even with the vanilla kernel it dont work05:10
DVSoftwarewhile i was still using ubuntulinux05:10
brennerkwiat: sys > help > starter guide > windows partitions05:10
DVSoftwarei have created this logo http://www.fun-zone.org/mkportal/templates/FunZoneV2/images/logo.jpg05:10
dejan_someone to help with installation JDK 1.6 beta??05:10
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ineslemsxl: I would think that it's in Policy tab, Inbound traffic policy, but there are 2 boxes: One is called "Allow connections from host", the other "Allow service".05:11
ProtexHalf-Left: Sorry friend, I don't know then.05:11
DVSoftwareand now, i can't remember05:11
DVSoftwarewhat font it is05:11
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Goshawklemsx1, are you upgrading to dapper to use xgl?05:11
kwiatbrenner, thanks05:11
xualoanyone?05:11
DVSoftwareit's in ubuntu05:11
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petrhow to open encrypted zip files (created by winzip)?05:11
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colmsudo apt-get install unzip05:12
Half-LeftI have everything in place for the nvidia driver, but it's saying no glx module found, cannot find module nvidia, even though it's loaded05:12
ineslemsxl: guess I'm looking for the "Block connections from host" window, but can't.05:12
ineslemsxl: Or is it Outbound traffic policy?05:12
DVSoftwarecan somebody please tell me what that font is? i think it begins with letter "m"05:12
xualothe list i got from this website (http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic) when i do apt-get update it says E: Some index files failed to download,You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems, any reason why?05:12
ablomenpetr, you can try 7zip, they have a linux version05:12
ProtexHalf-Left: Have you tried just for tryings sake, uninstalling, rebooting, installing again?05:12
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dejan_can I install JDK 1,6 beta in my ubuntu?05:13
Half-LeftProtex: yes, the nvidia-glx worked but after putting my computer on today it dont05:13
petrya i remember05:13
ProtexHalf-Left: And you haven't changed anything since then? Dapper is in Developmental Release, they did say that X would randomly break.05:13
Yoniow can I stop services that are running in the background from the console? like Apache? sshd? & so on?05:14
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Half-LeftProtex: no, but you maybe right about the Xorg breakage05:14
ProtexYoni: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop   I think.05:14
YoniWhen I'm doing this, I'm getting: Stopping web server: apacheNo process in pidfile `/var/run/apache.pid' found running; none killed.05:14
colmYoni, ls /etc/init.d to see services05:15
ablomenYoni, killall apache05:15
bsidewhere can i find radeon drivers for an ati video ?05:15
colmablomen, lol05:15
akambihello! Does anybody know where I can find a precompiled version of E17 for Ubuntu05:15
ablomencolm, well it works ;)05:15
vithoseverytime i leave badblocks -n running overnight from a ubuntu livecd, when i wake up my monitor is in standby and i can't get it to return from it, and i can't ^C blindly to stop the hard disk activity and have to cold boot and surely lose data05:15
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colmablomen, indeed!05:15
Yoniapache: no process killed05:15
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colmapache205:15
brennerDVSoftware: you sure?  i don't see any similarity with any of the m* fonts05:15
ablomenYoni, apache2 srry05:15
Yonitried that too, same respond05:16
Yoniapache2: no process killed05:16
ablomenYoni, than its not running05:16
ProtexYoni, are you sure it's even running?05:16
lemsx1Goshawk: yes. i want to use Xgl05:16
DVSoftwareBrendon: well, at least i'm sure that it's in ubuntu, for m, i'm not really sure05:16
Yoniyes, I cant remove it..05:16
ablomenYoni, try "ps -ax | grep apache"05:16
DVSoftwarebrenner: can you please pastebin your fonts list?05:17
brennerDVSoftware: it's brenner.  MgOpen Moderna maybe05:17
Goshawklemsx1, i'm looking in launchpad, a new version of xserver-xgl is ready05:17
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ablomenYoni, that should show you if its running or not05:17
Goshawklemsx1, it crashed my amd64 dapper05:17
ablomenYoni, (as in paste your output here)05:17
petrthere r two files here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11181005:17
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petrwhich one shud i download ?05:18
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lemsx1ines: do you want connections to the outside world? are you running a server? from a desktop i don't block anything going out. only connections coming in (whch are blocked by default). i use the inbound policy to open some ports to some hosts05:18
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DVSoftwarebrenner: it's not MgOpen Moderna, it's greek05:18
brennerDVSoftware: where is it exactly?05:18
brennerDVSoftware: the font has "greek" in it?05:18
petrhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11181005:18
ablomenpetr, the p7zip one05:18
petrok05:18
CwiiisHi all - can anyone tell me where the list of modules is on dapper that gets used when reconfiguring the kernel and creating the initramfs? I've tried /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and that doesn't work, unless there's some magic to activate it?05:18
DVSoftwareno but mgopen is greek05:18
lemsx1Goshawk: ah, that's exactly what i want. i don't want to install xgl from source05:19
colmpetr, if you don't mind command line, try simple unzip instead05:19
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colmsudo apt-get install unzip05:19
Goshawklemsx1, didn't you know that they are in universe?05:19
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Yoniablomen, can I pm you the answer? it's 2 lines long..05:19
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lemsx1Goshawk: amd64 ... did you read in freedesktop.org to see if that's supported by Xgl already?05:19
Goshawklemsx1, and they work well for x8605:19
Yonior should I paste it here?05:19
ablomencolm, that didnt work with encrypted files did it?05:19
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colmablomen, oh, never tried05:19
ablomenYoni, shure pm it05:19
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lemsx1Goshawk: i'm installing dapper now... it's still not done05:20
Goshawklemsx1, yep it's supported but it "seems" to be compile with a bad flag for amd64, maybe this new version is ok05:20
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[olli] hmm, where in evolution can i change the email format to text-only emails?05:20
Goshawklemsx1, it crashed my X server, i had to came back to breezy, now i'm testing Xgl on a chroot envirorment05:20
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ablomenYoni, i dont realy care anyway, people wont hate you for posting 2 lines here05:20
petrablomen: downloaded05:20
ubuntu_hahmm, gcc doesnt work05:21
ubuntu_hacan anybody help me05:21
ubuntu_hai am having immense trouble with it05:21
Goshawklemsx1, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds05:21
ablomenpetr, ok what kind of file is it?05:21
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colmubuntu_ha, symptoms?05:21
petrablomen: its a tar.bz2 file05:21
netsurf3hi all i am using ndiswrapper but i used the -m option in the wrong order (i didn't modprobe first) and the driver refuses to load on boot causing an majour irritation anychance of telling me what i need to change?05:21
dejan_how to install this: jdk-6-rc-bin-b71-linux-i586-09_feb_2006.bin05:21
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ablomenpetr, ok just extract that05:21
dejan_help05:21
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ubuntu_hacolm: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.05:22
thegladiatorwhats the linux equivalent for ipconfig ?05:22
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ubuntu_hawhat can i do to fix this issue?05:22
Yoniifconfig05:22
thegladiatori am trying to clear the IP and refetch using DHCP05:22
colmubuntu_ha, how did you install gcc?05:22
ablomenthegladiator, ifconfig05:22
brennerdejan_: ./<binfile>05:22
ubuntu_hasynaptic05:22
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thegladiatorablomen, how about releasing IP ?05:22
snowblinkthegladiator, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:22
petrablomen: extracted05:22
lemsx1Goshawk: chroot!05:22
dejan_ok05:22
Goshawklemsx1, just upgrade to dapper and do apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz (be careful it's unstable, and it's not the debian meaning of unstable :D)05:23
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thegladiatori need to release the IP , like ipconfig /release05:23
ablomenpetr, ok does it have a .sh file or something like that?05:23
lemsx1Goshawk: good. i have a launchpad account ;-)05:23
thegladiatorand fetch back using ipconfig /renew05:23
petrablomen: yes install.sh05:23
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DVSoftwarethegladiator: these are windows commands05:23
lemsx1Goshawk: experimental-unstable ? lol05:23
brennerubuntu_ha: install build-essential05:23
thegladiatorDVSoftware, looking for linux equivalent05:23
ubuntu_haok i try05:23
DVSoftwareman dhclient05:24
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colmubuntu_ha, what software are you trying to install?05:24
ablomenpetr, ok go to that folder with the terminal, do "chmod 755 ./install.sh" and then "sudo ./install.sh05:24
dejan_brenner: Permission denied :(05:24
ubuntu_hai am trying to install money-httpd and thttpd05:24
ubuntu_haboth failed LOL..trying to install build-essential now as advised05:24
lemsx1ines: i guess i misunderstood you. all incoming traffic is blocked by default, so you don't have to do anything05:25
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wastrelhello05:25
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Horo86hi!05:25
colmubuntu_ha, try /etc/make.conf05:25
ubuntu_hawhee05:25
ubuntu_hait works brenner!05:25
ubuntu_hacolm : fixed05:25
colmubuntu_ha - CFLAGS?05:26
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ablomenpetr, any luck?05:26
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adrihow to recompile ubuntu package on debian system?05:27
petrablomen: line 44, 56, 65 command not found05:27
hatake_kakashi!tell adri about gcc05:27
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chell!tell chell about debian05:27
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pianoboy3333Can you password protect text files?05:27
hatake_kakashiadri: you also need build-essential05:27
ablomenpetr, darn.. maybe theres something on the sites faq..05:28
thegladiatorpianoboy3333, not directly I guess zip it ?05:28
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thegladiatorzip as in compress*05:28
adrii mean.... in debian system... how to use debian package?05:28
pianoboy3333kk......05:28
Dr_Willis!apt-get05:28
uboturumour has it, apt-get is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto05:28
pianoboy3333!protect05:28
ubotupianoboy3333: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:28
ablomenadri, sudo dpkg -i package05:28
adriups sorry... in debian system .... how to use ubuntu package05:28
hatake_kakashipianoboy3333: just chmod it to 000 and you have no access to it05:28
hatake_kakashior chown05:29
Protexpianoboy3333 You can change the file permissions to lets say, root, and then you'd have to be a root user to view them.05:29
pianoboy3333I guess...05:29
pianoboy3333thats a good idea05:29
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adrii would like to use open office 2.0 from ubuntu instead of open office 1.1.3 from built in debian in debian system05:29
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adrii was told to recompile the package, but how?05:30
adritry googlling, what is the key word?05:30
Protexadri: Would it be easier to just go to openoffice.org and follow instructions from there?05:30
ablomenadri, i think that isnt going to be easy, it will be compatibility hell... just install ubuntu ;)05:30
petrthey have not even given how to install 7zip for linux05:30
iGad_bigdiskablomen: think I found the problem...05:30
adriok05:30
iGad_bigdiskablomen: 3ware has this nice little option in it's bios called '2TB autocarving'05:30
hatake_kakashiadri: you might as well compile oo.o from source and install it from there05:31
adrii think i'll download from... oo then use check install...05:31
NET||abuse!xgl05:31
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/05:31
adriok thank...05:31
Protexadri: sounds like a plan.05:31
adrithank you for answering......05:31
tritiumadri: you can use an ubuntu deb-src repo, and then apt-get source --build <package>05:31
ablomeniGad_bigdisk, lol ok thats nice... :S05:31
ablomeniGad_bigdisk, so its a bios thinh?05:32
ablomen*thing05:32
petrablomen:05:32
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iGad_bigdiskablomen: Think so... I turned it off, now I have to rebuild the entire(!) array :s05:32
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ablomeniGad_bigdisk, well good luck, hope it works05:33
dejan_how to install : jdk-6-rc-bin-b71-linux-i586-09_feb_2006.bin  ??05:33
iGad_bigdiskthanks, me to ;)05:33
ablomenpetr, try googling for "7zip on ubuntu"05:33
hungerI got a procmail setup that filters my mails into several maildirs. What is the best way to integrate that into evolution?05:33
petrok05:33
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lemsx1adri: install apt-src on debian (or ubuntu or xandros) and add the deb-src entry for the packages you want to back port and do: apt-src install PACKAGE as root05:34
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wastrelis there a snap-to-borders feature in metacity?05:34
wastrelsnap-to-edges05:34
tritiumyes, wastrel05:35
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thegladiatorany one who uses enlightenment here ?05:35
thegladiatorjust a doubt05:35
tritiumhold down the shift key while dragging the window, and it will snap to edges05:35
lemsx1adri: install apt-src on debian (or ubuntu or xandros) and add the deb-src entry for the packages you want to back port and do: apt-src install PACKAGE as root05:35
COOlTechI have used it...05:35
thegladiatortritium, i dont know05:35
ablomenthegladiator, i'v tried it, wasnt realy worth it in my point of view05:36
tritiumyou don't even need apt-src, adri05:36
thegladiatorthanks05:36
wastreltritium:  thx05:36
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tritiumadri: you can use an ubuntu deb-src r, and then apt-get source --build <package>05:36
tritiumdeb-src repo, that is05:36
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tritiumsure, wastrel05:36
tritiumthegladiator: ?05:36
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lemsx1tritium: good to know... but apt-get gets the dependencies as well?05:37
DVSoftwarecan somebody pastebin me font list?05:37
thegladiatorsorry tritium confused with another window . your reply made sense to that question :)05:37
tritiumlemsx1: there is a build-dep option in apt-get ;)05:37
lemsx1tritium: meaning if it needs to recompile newer versions05:37
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lemsx1tritium: that definitely makes apt-src redundant then... i just ilke the name: apt-src ;-)05:37
tritiumlemsx1: apt-src is a fine tool, also05:37
tritiumlemsx1: :)05:38
lemsx1tritium: agree05:38
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ablomentritium, is that like the gentoo emerge thing?05:38
lemsx1tritium: but if apt-get does the same and it's ALWAYS there, then there is no reason to use anything else05:38
wastreltritium:  is it possible to turn off focus raises window when using alt-tab?05:39
tritiumablomen: essentially, yes.  You can build package from source just as easily with apt-get source --build05:39
lemsx1tritium: that doesn't always apply to all other software of course... look at the gap that Fx feels even though IE is always there :-P05:39
tritiumlemsx1: :)05:39
lemsx1tritium: s/feels/fills/ ... lack of tea today05:39
ablomenok thanks always nice to learn something new ;)05:39
madgik85hello, i was wondering if anyone could help me, I am looking for my grub.conf file... where is it usually found? help would be appreciated05:40
tritiumwastrel: I don't recall.  Did you check System->Preferences->Windows?05:40
tritiummadgik85: /boot/grub/menu.lst05:40
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madgik85tritium: thank you05:40
wastreltritium:  not yet, i've been looking in the metacity gconf settings05:40
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tritiumwastrel: give it a look then05:41
DVSoftwareplease... can i get that font list?05:41
tritiumsure thing, madgik8505:41
wastrelheh there's nothing there, 3 options :] 05:41
ablomentritium, lol you can run this whole irc box on your own can you? ;)05:41
tritiumablomen: not even close :)05:42
DVSoftware:(05:42
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ablomenDVSoftware, w8 a sec05:42
kakodaimonoalo05:42
ablomenDVSoftware, ill ls my truetype folder for you05:42
DVSoftwareok05:42
DVSoftwarethanks05:42
kakodaimonosomeone speaks spanish?05:43
tritium!es05:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:43
kakodaimonook thanks05:43
wastrelque interesante05:43
tritiumde nada, kakodaimono05:43
kakodaimonowhat?05:43
ablomenDVSoftware, http://213.10.104.32/fonts.txt05:44
kakodaimonook05:44
=== lemsx1 #ubuntu needs a universal translator to on-the-fly translations between any language to your own
wastrellemsx1:  if you find one let me know first05:44
=== lemsx1 tying world.altavista.com to #ubuntu would be nice
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lemsx1wastrel: lol. they have one for the phone already. might was wall do it for text05:44
kakodaimonolook i`ll try to be  clear...05:44
DVSoftwarehuh, ok thanks, i'll take a look05:44
kakodaimonoi have aproblem with the sound05:45
lemsx1wastrel: well, they are working on it, it's not a commercial product yet (that i know of)05:45
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kakodaimonowhen i start ubuntu starts a sound like tambors..05:45
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ablomenDVSoftware, just google on those names and i think youll find what your looking for05:46
kakodaimonook thanks05:46
flujanhi guys, I need a backport of the xorg 6.9 or 7.0. I have a intel 915M laptop and need 1280*800 configuration.05:46
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flujanis there such back-port?05:46
lemsx1flujan: forward port? lol. get dapper and hack-away05:47
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ablomenflujan, try searching on apt-get.org, maybe theres a reposetory that has it there05:47
lemsx1flujan: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-devel or so05:47
CwiiisIt seems the nvidia module is missing for me in dapper amd64 (kernel 2.6.15) - Anyone know anything about this?05:48
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ablomenCwiiis, it is installed but it doesnt work out of the box, have the same problem here, dont know how to fix it, will be kinda hard05:48
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rugolinianyone know a good software to make dvd video under linux ?05:50
rugoliniwith GUI05:50
Cwiiisablomen: Is there a bug report about it? And do you know if an earlier kernel works?05:50
tritiumrugolini: kino05:50
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instabinhow do i tell how much free hd space i have05:50
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tritiumdf -h, instabin05:50
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theBishophas anyone been able to get Xgl working?05:51
rugoliniTrickyPhillips, thanks05:51
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rugolinitritium, thanks05:51
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ablomenCwiiis, after the update to dapper i didnt get it to work, with older kernels 2, ithinks its just a matter of waiting till theres a update for it05:51
tritiumsure, rugolini05:51
skunk_eyedhow do i set up a fat 32 partition to be mounted at boot and r/w accessible by any use05:51
theBishopapt is telling me certain dependencies are not installable05:51
jetscreamerman 5 mount05:51
flujanno answer in the ubuntu-devel channel05:52
flujan :(05:52
ablomenskunk_eyed, you have to edit the /etc/fstab file, try googling05:52
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jetscreamerumask, dmask, fmask, uid, gid05:53
lemsx1theBishop: ask me that 40 min from now05:53
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lemsx1theBishop: i'm working on installing dapper on a box that should at least work... intel GPU05:54
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kakodaimonosomeone from chile?05:54
colmwell wish me luck just done a dapper dist-upgrade on this box, to see if I can help test...   reboot now pending05:54
lemsx1kakodaimono: from chile or living in chile?05:54
tritiumor eating chile?05:54
kakodaimonoliving o from..05:54
lemsx1colm: nice05:54
hatake_kakashilol05:54
lemsx1tritium: ROFL05:54
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tritium:)05:54
skunk_eyedthanks. and where might i find a collection of ubuntu repos?05:55
kakodaimonotriitium :P05:55
lemsx1kakodaimono: did you try #ubuntu-es ?05:55
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raphinkanyone on GNOME here could confirm whether services-admin is what you find in System->Administration->Services?05:55
kakodaimonoit says that it doesn`t exist05:55
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tritiumyes, raphink05:55
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raphinktritium: you mean yes that's the app that is there?05:55
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lemsx1raphink: can't get properties for those menus now uh?05:56
makaveliwhereis startup file for services05:56
makavelilike rc05:56
tritiumyes, raphink05:56
tritiummakaveli: /etc/init.d05:56
makavelithank u05:56
raphinklemsx1: I' mon KDE and don't want to launch GNOME to check a bug ;)05:56
raphinkthanks much tritium05:56
tritiumany time05:56
Ngnot everything in /etc/init.d is started at boot05:56
Ngjust the things symlinked into /etc/rcS.d/ and /etc/rc2.d/05:57
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olabhello05:57
ydothe other day, things in my /etc/rcS.d started looping probably because something failed.. is it because the status code returned or what goes on stdout/stderr?05:58
olabthre is anybody here?05:58
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olabheello05:58
olabheello05:58
skunk_eyedthanks. and where might i find a collection of ubuntu repos?05:58
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lemsx1olab: ask away05:58
Ngolab: yes, we're here05:58
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lemsx1skunk_eyed: you can easily google that05:58
ct-designhi. i just have a short question...05:58
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ydoct-design: just ask05:58
skunk_eyedlemsxl: yea, but i am lazy. will do anyway :P05:59
ct-designin our school we're running ubuntu...and we have vlc...were can i get it for ubuntu?05:59
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lemsx1skunk_eyed: that's why nobody replies then. because you are lazy :-)05:59
ablomenct-design, www.ubuntulinux.com05:59
sorush20how do I extract all the tar.bz2 packages in a directory into that directory in one command?05:59
ablomenct-design, you can order free cd-roms there ;)05:59
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lemsx1!vlc05:59
ubotuit has been said that vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)05:59
_jasonct-design: vlc is in the unvirse repository05:59
tritiumvlc is in universe repo, ct-design06:00
ablomenct-design, oops didnt read it right06:00
_jasonuniverse even06:00
tritium!info vlc06:00
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB06:00
colmok reboot done!  now in dapper.  WOW it's so much faster (Gnome over freenx connection)06:00
EnverexDoes anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?06:00
lemsx1colm: nice nice06:00
lemsx1colm: gaim version?06:00
_jasonct-design: do you have universe enabled and know how to use synaptic?06:00
lemsx1colm: i'm using gaim-cvs now :-P06:00
ct-designsry but i am really ubuntu-noob. what do you mean?06:00
_jasonubotu: tell ct-design about synaptic06:00
ablomenlemsx1, gaim is still 1.506:00
_jasonubotu: tell ct-design about repos06:00
lemsx1ablomen: good to know... no beta packages yet?06:01
ct-designthx. will read this along06:01
tritiumct-design: jason had ubotu send you some info06:01
ablomenlemsx1, nope no 2.0 or anything06:01
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rugolinitritium, kino is for dv-videos, i want to make a dvd from an avi06:01
colmlemsx1, 1.5.1cvs06:01
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lemsx1ablomen: ok... time to wait i guess06:01
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ablomenthe only thing realy changed by switching to dapper for me is no 3d support, isnt realy worth to upgrade06:02
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tritiumrugolini: are you sure it can't do that?06:02
colmablomen, over freenx, not really considering 3D ;)06:02
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GameCatcan anyone advise me on changing video card? nvidia geforce 4 > nvidia FX 550006:03
rugolinitritium, i read in the site that it cant06:03
tritiumsorry, rugolini06:03
rugolinithats ok :P06:03
sorush20!tar06:03
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trappistGameCat: should just be a matter of swapping out hardware.  the cards are supported by the same driver.06:04
lemsx1GameCat: nvidia -> any other nvidia and never any other brand06:04
ablomencolm, ok thats easy, but i realy enjoyd playing enemy territory ;) and open ttd runs a little slow now 2 :S06:04
lemsx1GameCat: i switched to ATI and feel cheated :-(06:04
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colmi'll have to #blush# and admit my xp box is for HL2, tool for the job and all that...06:04
ablomenlemsx1, lol ati is horrible, the linux support isnt worth anything06:04
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lemsx1ablomen: tell me about it. i always rant about that in the rage3d06:05
ablomenlol im using dual boot, still need gaming too ;)06:05
ydosorush20: for f in *.tar.bz2; do mkdir "$f";cd "$f";tar xfj ../$f;cd ..;done06:05
trappistevery time I think I might want to dual boot, cedega comes out and supports the game I was gonna dual boot for.  this time they did it with civilization 4.06:06
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colmat the moment, what I really want is CYMK in Linux...06:06
ablomenlemsx1, lol06:06
ydotrappist: cedega supports civ 4 now?! wow06:06
lemsx1colm: lol.. many people waiting in line for that06:06
ct-designok now. but where can i download these packages for ubuntu? on the official-hp there isnt a ubuntu-file06:06
trappistydo: as of 5.1, yeah06:06
GameCatthanks guys - I'll try that now...06:06
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marvelI trying to install VPN client software and the install package is asking for the location of the kernel files.  I'm learn to use ubuntu but I don't know the location of linux kernel in ubuntu.  Can anyone help06:06
ablomencolm, CYMK?06:06
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colmlemsx1, ablomen, Krita now has cymk, but I think i'll need SVN version06:07
tafsenIs there an easy way to convert an Realmedia file in to avi?06:07
lemsx1ablomen: i'd rather die than dual boot!06:07
lemsx1ablomen: lol06:07
oklinuxtrappist I got the printer going.06:07
tritiumct-design: add the universe and multiverse repos to your sources.list, and you can install them easily06:07
hatake_kakashimarvel: you need kernel-headers I believe06:07
trappistmarvel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and point the installer at /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include06:07
colmablomen, Colour separation for professional printing06:07
ct-designwhat is a repos?06:07
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ablomencolm, lol ok thats new to me06:07
ablomenlemsx1, well it does the job pretty good06:07
tritiummarvel: also, vpnc works very well with Cisco VPN06:07
marvelgreat, thank you, I will try it06:07
ablomenlemsx1, need it for my ipod software 2 ;)06:08
colmablomen, means Cyan Yellow Magenta blacK06:08
lemsx1colm: yeah, you mispelled it CMYK ;-)06:08
colmlol06:08
tritiummarvel: the nice thing with vpnc is that you don't need to compile anything :)06:08
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lemsx1colm:  lol06:08
ablomencolm, *penny drops* Ah! i understand :P06:08
colmthink I'm suffering from abbreviation blindness today06:09
lemsx1colm: racist! you put yellow before Magenta!06:09
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cusco!java06:09
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:09
cusco!javadebs06:09
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netsurf3where can you get alsa tools or something to configure a soundcard?06:11
ablomennetsurf3, apt-get...06:11
nowotnyanyone here using quanta editor...?06:11
netsurf3yeah but according to apt-get there is no source for installation06:11
netsurf3what repo do you know?06:11
lemsx1nowotny: we are all Anjuta users ... lol... just kidding. did you try #kubuntu ?06:12
tritiumnetsurf3: alsaconf is not included in ubuntu, since it is poorly maintained and buggy06:12
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ablomennetsurf3, try searching at apt-get.org, its a search engine for apt repositorys06:12
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netsurf3tritium so how can i configure a soundcard06:12
tritiumnetsurf3: in the vast majority of cases, it is done automatically06:13
netsurf3can i reactivate autoconfig?06:13
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nowotnylemsx1: thanks... will check... ;)06:13
tritiumwhat problems are you having, netsurf3 ?06:13
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lemsx1nowotny: not sure if there is #kubuntu-devel06:13
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lemsx1ablomen: sounds like you are going to the can ;-)06:14
AstralJavanetsurf3: you could try package alsa-utils06:14
netsurf3well i have two soundcards one pci and a onboard. the pci just doesn seem to have been detected so i have renabled the onboard06:14
wastrelwhat's anjuta?06:14
ablomenlemsx1, thats what the as in dinner part is for ;)06:14
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nowotnylemsx1: I'm just looking for someone to tell me how to put those damned tabs at the top... ;)06:14
trappistnetsurf3: I hate when that happens.  when it happens to me though, alsaconf doesn't work either.06:14
tritiumnetsurf3: you've disabled the onboard in BIOS when you want the pci one detected?06:15
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bdawg54345Can i dual boot if i install ubuntu i made 33 gigs of unpartitioned space06:15
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ct-designi dont understand this text ubotu gave me :( i configured the packet-manager but it cant find the vlc package...06:15
tritiumthat's enough space, bdawg5434506:15
tritiumct-design: did you update your package listing?06:15
bdawg54345does it come with a bootloader?06:15
ct-designyes06:15
lakcajbdawg54345, yes, grub06:15
tritiumct-design: you setup the universe repo?06:15
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ct-designyeah. how it was discribed06:16
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Scarboroughwhen I tried to open a file in mp3 format, it says its textfile:S whats that about?06:16
CryoToxHow do I get telnet working?06:16
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tritiumct-design: then it should be available.  Did you search for it in synaptic?  Are you using apt-get06:17
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trappistCryoTox: is that a trick question?06:17
bdawg54345will it work i have a p406:17
tritiumCryoTox: I recommend ssh instead06:17
CryoToxtrappist: No idea06:17
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CryoToxtritium: Were do I get ssh?06:17
bdawg54345i have a p4 should i get the x86 version06:18
tritiumCryoTox: you already have the client installed.  Do you want to install a server on your machine?06:18
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lakcajCryoTox, do you know how to install software with ubuntu?06:18
epphey how do i get ubuntu to detect my wireless card?06:18
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CryoToxlakcaj: the sudo apt-get install PROGRAM right?06:18
tritiumCryoTox: assuming you want the server, "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" (or just ssh)06:18
elvinhi there06:18
elvindo you know any online radios i can listen on ubuntu ?06:18
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pvhI am worried that during an update I ran out of hard drive space. Will dpkg/apt-get detect that?06:19
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wastrelpvh your apt repository can fill up with downloaded packages06:19
wastrelpvh try apt-get autoclean06:19
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pvhwastrel: I'm more worried that during the actual install I had 0 bytes free at some point.06:20
lakcajCryoTox, right... did you try apt-get install ssh?06:20
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CryoToxyah06:20
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wastrelpvh:  dunno :] 06:20
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lakcajwastrel, I don't think apt-get autoclean removes the .debs06:21
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epphey how do i get ubuntu to detect my wireless card?06:21
CryoToxI just want to telnet to this nethack thing06:21
pvhwell, wish me luck.06:21
netsurf3wow looks like both were detected :D06:21
netsurf3:D06:21
eppCryotox, telnet "ipadress?"06:21
tritiumlakcaj: it does remove them from the cache, but only if they're no longer downloadable.  apt-get clean would clean everything out06:22
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CryoToxepp: Is that the comand?06:22
lakcajtritium, good to know.  I usually just rm /var/cache/apt/archives/* -fv06:22
eppi think so.06:22
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tritiumlakcaj: ah, ok06:22
eppCryotox, i think so06:22
colmah, it's krita 1.5beta that has the cmyk support...  I'll try the binary first06:22
CryoToxI git it working06:23
kitty_Can somebody please help me... somehow ive just deleted ALL OF MY MUSIC none of it is in the wastebasket and im gona start crying soon, is there a way of getting it back some how,  or even some of it.06:23
CryoToxgot*06:23
eppCryotox, so that command worked>06:24
colmkitty_, looks like it's time to rip those cd's again...06:24
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tritiumCryoTox: you realize telnet is unsecure?06:24
cyblivioustest06:25
tritiumkitty_: how did you delete them?06:25
akambidoes anybody know if its worthy to install the last Ubuntu (Daper)06:25
trappistakambi: I don't recommend it06:25
akambiWhy trappist?06:25
ccookeakambi: not this month, and probably not next.06:25
eppCryotox, try ssh "ip address" for a more secure connection.06:25
trappistakambi: it's not the latest ubuntu - it's a prerelease testing version.  it's likely to break.06:25
ccookeakambi: it's not ready yet.06:25
tritiumakambi: just wait until it's stable06:26
ccooketrappist: it's not even a prerelease, yet :-)06:26
lakcajakambi, if you have to ask....06:26
akambiI would like to use the lastest amarok (1.4)06:26
CryoToxtritium: I'm aware06:26
ccookeakambi: wait until April.06:26
trappistccooke: depends on your choice of nomenclature, I guess ;)  it's before release, so...06:26
akambibut it looks like i need to install dapper06:27
basic`dapper has been working for me06:27
ccooketrappist: sure, but in about a month or six weeks, they'll actually release a prerelease...06:27
tritiumwhy do you say that, akambi ?06:27
bdawg54345guys im new and i get a error installing ubuntu is there any other linux versions that are good for beginners06:27
basic`except im not sure how to install fglrx06:27
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tritiumbdawg54345: what is the error?06:27
ccookebasic`: then you're lucky. it's still not something *recommended* yet.06:27
bdawg54345disc error06:27
tritiumbdawg54345: at what point?  can you be more specific?06:27
akambiThat's what they told me in the amarok channel06:27
basic`eh yeah i know... im just using it to test out xgl06:27
bdawg54345and i lost taht disc now when i try to download uvuntu from the site it wont download right06:28
kitty_they seemed to be duplicated and my second drive was nearly half full when it shoulnd have been cos ther was only say 10 gig of music in there but my drive had nothing but that music on it so i asumed that it was copied some how.. there were 2 files the same that had my music in. so i deleted one of them thinkin if it went wrong i could get it back out of the bin.. BUT I WAS WRONG,06:28
bdawg54345in the beginning06:28
bdawg54345 it wouldnt load the installer06:28
epphow do i detect mac airport?06:28
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kitty_very wrong...06:28
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bdawg54345now from the ubuntu site i cant download ubuntu06:28
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kitty_but should it not have gone to the wastebin06:29
netsurf3:( hotplug keeps failing on kubuntu06:29
mamaciao a tutti|06:29
tritiumbdawg54345: you can still download ubuntu.  What do you mean?06:29
lakcajepp, iwlist scan?06:29
bdawg54345it downloads only as 50 kb06:29
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mamaanybody has ubuntu here?06:29
tritiumkitty_: depends on what you did06:29
tritiummama: nearly everone06:29
netsurf3i have ndiswrapper running a belkin usbwlan and the usb keeps dying06:29
tritiumeveryone even06:29
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bdawg54345nvr mind im dl it now06:30
bdawg54345 but if i have error installing will you help06:30
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kitty_i dont realy know,  there were 2 files the same i selected one and hit the delete key06:30
epplakcaj, says non support scanning06:30
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tritiumbdawg54345: I need to go soon.  Make sure you check the md5sum of the image before you burn it to CD.06:30
bdawg54345waht do u mean06:30
kitty_then there was no file atal06:30
lakcajepp, not sure then, I haven't used wireless in some time06:30
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Belboz99Hey all, How do I get Ubuntu to run my nForce 2 USB ports as USB 2.0?  Right now they are only running at like 1.0 or 1.1.06:31
tritiumkitty_: you may need to rip your cds again06:31
bdawg54345tritium how do i check the md506:31
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kitty_if deleting those files was the last thing i did.. can it not just be un-done06:32
_jasonubotu: tell bdawg54345 about verify06:32
tritiumbdawg54345: md5sum <filename>06:32
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mamaso, how does this xchat work?06:32
mamaI mean...06:32
bdawg54345and i do that inn06:32
cyblivioushas anyone used nvidia nforce drivers? comments?06:32
mama...the only server I'm able to connect is this one...06:32
bdawg54345command prompt?06:32
mamawhat about the others in the list?06:32
LinuxJonesHey guys I've been trying to get my fonts looking better (jagged) on my new laptop running Dapper can someone offer any help ?06:32
netsurf3tritium: think you can help me? ndiswrapper wlan device on usb keeps suddenly cutting out, the device disappears and i cant remove the module06:33
eppanyone running linux on a mac laptop?06:33
tritiumnetsurf3: I am just now leaving.  Sorry...06:33
netsurf3ok06:33
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netsurf3no worrys06:33
cybliviousis dapper stable already?06:33
wastrelno06:33
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akambiapparently no cyblivious06:34
kitty_i think there called artmiss fonts. htats what i use on mine and it looks sweet enough.. there all a standard size and its clear to read06:34
cybliviousic. thanks06:34
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cybliviouswas just curious since i see many users here installing dapper06:34
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Dr_Williscyblivious,  using it now. :P06:35
Dr_Williscyblivious,  it can have issues..06:35
cyblivioushow is it?06:35
Dr_Willisso spare machine, testing it, bug reporting..06:35
cybliviouswith what?06:35
Dr_Willisif the machine dies - no big loss.06:35
trappistcyblivious: all the really smart ones and all the really dumb ones.  that is, people who know what to do when it breaks and people who think it's a good idea to install the newest shiniest thing available.06:35
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lakcajLinuxJones, go into system -> preferences -> fonts, change them all the bitstream-vera sans roman and then for font rendering select subpixel smoothing06:36
Dr_Williscyblivious,  about 200 package updates a night. :P06:36
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kitty_but i usee dapper at the moment and they dont work properly,, How do fonts make bugs,, that sed, i only changed my profile and i had to reinstall it..06:36
odathi everyone06:36
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bdawg54345where to download md5sums06:36
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lakcajLinuxJones, for terminal font, you might want to use bitstream vera mono06:36
cybliviousis there a difference with breezy?06:36
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hatake_kakashicyblivious: different kernel for example06:36
odatif i have an old pentium 3 thats running at 1.0 ghz with 256 megs of ram  would using the 686 kernel over the 386 kernel benefit me at all?06:36
cyblivioussomething noticable06:36
hatake_kakashiodat: yes06:36
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kitty_WELL i think imm gona go rip every cd i own....AGAIN, ahh itl only take about six days each cd so i think ill be ok06:37
hatake_kakashiodat: imo kernel would be somewhat slightly smaller, and a little more optimised06:37
cybliviouslike maybe speed, stability or apperance and features06:37
hatake_kakashicyblivious: well, an updated kernel will show bits and pieces of that here and there06:37
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trappistcyblivious: it's unstable almost by definition06:38
epphow do detect wireless interfaces?06:38
cyblivioushehehe06:38
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hatake_kakashiepp: lspci06:39
lakcajLinuxJones, any better?06:39
cybliviousdid anyone have problems after installing nforce drivers from nvidia?06:39
no0ticanyone knows if ndiswrapper works on 2.6.15-15 dapper's kernel?06:39
colm!anyone06:39
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>06:39
lakcajhatake_kakashi, I think he means access points06:39
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hatake_kakashilakcaj: ahh well that I wouldn't have much of a clue, I'm sure there are snooping tools around for that06:40
cybliviousubotu: coz it doesn't pertain to anyone specific06:40
ubotucyblivious: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:40
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cybliviousSyntax error in line 1???06:40
LinuxJoneslakcaj: no thye are still crappy looking :(06:41
boguhhi there, just installed ubuntu and updated with apt, but now I only have firefox 1.07 and mysql-server 4. am i doing something wrong?06:41
no0ticcyblivious, ubotu is a bot...06:41
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cybliviousoic06:41
holobytedI have two "Apple iPod Player"s on every single file dialog I get... is there any way to remove one of them? it's kinda annoying06:41
lakcajLinuxJones, can you post a screenshot of your font selection dialog?06:41
eppi need to install an airport extreme... its in the laptop now what?06:41
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no0ticok, I have problems with ndiswrapper1.8 on 2.6.15-15 kernel, it doesn't allow me to change frequency on the wireless nic06:42
LinuxJoneslakcaj: can that go on pastebin ?06:42
ExussumHey all - Im having a Problem with Totom - problem being it wont open ..06:42
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lakcajLinuxJones, try imageshack for screenshots06:42
no0ticwhat can I do? since -14 it works06:42
lakcajhatake_kakashi, my appologies, he is trying to install an airport extreme06:42
no0ticbut on -14 it doesn't wrk the cpufreq management06:42
Exussum(totem:16016): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gt k_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed06:42
Exussum(totem:16016): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gt k_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed06:42
ExussumCreating link /home/scott/.kde/socket-scott.06:42
Exussumcan't create mcop directory06:42
ExussumIs what ut says06:43
cyblivioushow can i upgrade from breezy to dapper when released?06:43
colmcyblivious, 'apt-get install dist upgrade' command06:43
no0ticcyblivious, replace in /etc/apt/sources.list breezy with dapper06:43
colmplus a couple of little config changes06:43
cybliviouswhile retaining all the previous settings06:43
no0ticcyblivious, and then do what colm said06:44
_jasonubotu: tell cyblivious about breezy06:44
_jasoncyblivious: same way as updating to breezy (see ubotu's link)06:44
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ryman!tell ryman about cli06:44
cybliviousthanks a lot06:44
LinuxJoneslakcaj: you have to sign up for that service ?06:44
hatake_kakashilakcaj: hmm06:45
eppi need to install an airport extreme... its in the laptop now what?06:45
eppi mean normal airport06:45
hatake_kakashiepp: check under dmesg, dmesg| tail06:45
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boguhso breezy does not contain up to date software?06:46
ExussumHey people - any idea how to Fix totem ?06:46
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lakcajLinuxJones, they seem to be having some server issues, but here's the link - should still work, no registration required:  http://www.imageshack.us/06:46
_jasonboguh: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and then provides security updates06:46
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boguhand so dapper is somthing like debian testing?06:47
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lemsx1boguh: more like Experimental06:47
lemsx1boguh: :-) lol06:47
_jasonboguh: it breaks, it's development06:47
boguhim thinking about changing to ubuntu06:48
lemsx1boguh: you are in the right path. just use Breezy06:48
wastreli like me some ubuntu06:49
netsurf3gahhhhh i cant get ndiswrapper to load on boot it just wont work :(06:49
eppmy airport card was taken out while the laptop was on. could that fry it?06:49
boguhbut i dont see any advantages, my debian testing offers me the same06:49
lemsx1netsurf3: for NTFS ?06:49
netsurf3hmm06:49
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netsurf3ndiswrappers for wireless devices?06:49
boguhahhhh, but no securtity updates06:50
LinuxJoneslakcaj: here you go >> http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2oc.png06:50
hatake_kakashinetsurf3: yes, its basically windows .dll file wrapped so that linux can use it06:50
netsurf3yeah06:50
netsurf3i cant get it to load on boot06:50
holobyteddoes Ubuntu offer any way to rename an iPod? can't seem to find anything on google.06:50
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hatake_kakashinetsurf3: did it say it will load it at boot?06:51
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lakcajLinuxJones, your fonts look great imho.  Where do they not look good?  Also, I think you have to log out and back into gnome for sub-pixel rendering to take affect.06:51
netsurf3hatake_kakashi: i used the -m funtions06:51
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netsurf3hatake_kakashi: also the usb support just seems to die after a while06:51
hatake_kakashinetsurf3: try making it verbose06:51
netsurf3how do you mean06:51
dolphyany magic trick i missed to get working XV overlay with dapper and ATI drivers ?06:52
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LinuxJoneslakcaj: oh let me try doing that, I see green blurry edges on the fonts on my wxga display.06:52
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hatake_kakashinetsurf3: I presume there has to be a way to make it spit out verbose information06:52
dylan_has anybody ever experienced overheating with ubuntu?  is it the operating system's fault?  in windows, i never had the processor fan go loud06:52
cappizsomeone here using lftp?06:53
netsurf3hatake_kakashi: you can turn off the splash on boot but other than that i dont know06:53
tkupWhy did it take so long for the security updates to be available for consumption?06:53
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Gimpdok, i cant get the make_socket to bind to port 80: when i run apache2ctl start...any ideas?06:53
ExussumHey - ive got a problem with Totem player06:53
hatake_kakashinetsurf3: check under the ndiswrapper to see what sort of arguments/functions are there available06:53
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netsurf3there are only useful ones call06:54
netsurf3-hotplug06:54
netsurf3and -m06:54
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Gimpdits so difficult to get comprehensive help on networking in ubuntu...compare that to gentoo...please, no reprisals....just my view. :)06:54
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lakcajoh man, kitty is not around - I know where his deleted files went :)06:54
hatake_kakashinetsurf3: ok what's -m?06:54
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netsurf3which regenerate hotplug information and write modprobe. respectively (i have already used -m)06:55
Gimpdits so difficult to get comprehensive help on networking in ubuntu...compare that to gentoo...please, no reprisals....just my view. :)06:55
Gimpdok, i cant get the make_socket to bind to port 80: when i run apache2ctl start...any ideas?06:55
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hatake_kakashinetsurf3: hmm06:57
netsurf3hatake_kakashi: yeah......06:57
Belboz99Hey, the images coming off my scanner are coming way too slow, any ideas?06:57
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netsurf3hatake_kakashi: there is no modprobe.conf though06:57
hatake_kakashinetsurf3: that doesn't seem to be muchof a help06:57
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hatake_kakashimuch of*06:57
ExussumCon some one please help me ?06:58
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Belboz99My scanner is finished with the image in less than 20 seconds, but the software doesn't recieve it for another 5 minutes06:58
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francoisola06:58
slideIm tryong to apt-get install a lot of packages but it just spits out dependencies that are unmet, shouldnt it install those too?06:58
netsurf3Exussum: i am no good with totem sorrt06:59
netsurf3*sorry06:59
Exussumnet np06:59
hatake_kakashinetsurf3: I think checking with google may help07:00
Exussumnetsurf - What else can play Vids ?07:00
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netsurf3i use mplayer07:00
pianoboy333Does anyone here use a DVI digital video cable to hook up their monitor? I'm having some difficulty.07:00
pianoboy333Exussum: I use totem07:00
netsurf3it can even run windows media files07:00
WezlFawltylakcaj where? i gotta know07:00
colmpianoboy333, yes, I use DVI to lcd.  what probs are you having?07:01
netsurf3hatake_kakashi: i had a google run and found nothing close to useful :(07:01
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lakcajWezlFawlty, /home/username/.Trash07:01
moodogAfternoon all.07:01
WezlFawltymakes sense, now that youve said it07:01
pianoboy333colm: Is there anyway to fix my problem where the ubuntu loading screen, and safemode terminal is distorted?07:02
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hatake_kakashinetsurf3: blah.. well my knowledge with ndiswrapper is somewhat limited07:02
netsurf3lol07:02
ExussumPiano - i cant use totem as it wont work ..07:02
wastreli don't know why everyone loves totem so much07:03
wastrelit's never worked well for me07:03
netsurf3hatake_kakashi: strange that even debian could run the ndis on boot though07:03
lakcajmplayer and vlc are where it's at07:03
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pianoboy333Exussum: Mine didn't either, I got a different version--hold on07:03
colmpianoboy333, I don't see problems like that.  sounds like your monitor doesn't like the modeshift.  try selecting the mode manually using the monitor's control panel07:03
pianoboy333colm: but once I get into ubuntu, it's fine07:03
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LinuxJoneslakcaj: they still look jagged to me I wonder if it's something in the xorg.conf file ?07:05
lilggHello is there a "solution" about runnin the livecd on a laptop?(Hotplus known issue).07:05
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wastreli've heard that totem-xine works better than totem-gstreamer07:05
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wastrelfwiw07:05
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clever`outis there a way to get data from a mysql database to go right into openoffice calc?07:06
clever`outor do i have to export to cvs then load that07:06
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pianoboy333colm: I have a DELL 1905FP lcd monitor, do you want to see my xorg.conf file?07:07
pianoboy333colm: would that do anything?07:07
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xerox_Howdy!07:07
xerox_What is the #ubuntu preferred e-mail client program?  :-)07:08
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ExussumEvolution i think07:08
pianoboy333xerox_, thunderbird is good :-) that's made by mozilla07:08
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Exussumi use thuderbird as well07:08
wastrel<3 tbird07:08
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Jhairxerox_: I can only speak for myself: gnus07:08
Exussum<3 mozilla - makers of firefox and Thunderbird :D07:09
xerox_Hehe, I'm used to it too, I was wondering if there are good alternatives out there.07:09
wastrelthere's no one standard afaik - evo is the default for gnome, of course07:09
ablomenthunderbird is good, but i find evolution better, more... complete07:09
xerox_Thanks for the hits.07:09
Exussumi USED to use incredimail - tho i think that could be windows only07:09
xerox_hints, even.07:09
wastrelthere's also sylpheed and balsa if you're shopping around07:09
wastreland whatever they use in kde-land07:10
netsurf3hatake_kakashi: hmm i have it loading on boot but i need the wlan0 to work with ifupdown07:10
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lilggHello is there a "solution" about runnin the livecd on a laptop?(Hotplugs known issue). anyone?:/07:10
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instabinhow do i add space to my lvm07:11
AstralJavaclever`out: Not sure, but sounds like ODBC/JDBC is what you're looking for. Use File | Wizards... menu and create a connection thru Address Data Source...07:11
instabin!lvm07:11
ubotuhmm... lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/07:11
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instabinhow do i ad a hard dirive to my lvm partiion07:11
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ExussumHow can i set my defalt Player not to be Totem ?07:13
_jasonExussum: in gnome?07:13
olicati'm writing a shell script to download and build a load of stuff from sources, but the build machines will change from time to time, ie i don't know all deps will be there beforehand07:13
ExussumYea07:13
olicatis there a way to tell the script to stop running if the ./configure fails something?07:13
_jasonExussum: just right click on a file, click properties, and go to open with07:13
ablomenbtw about games, does anyone know a good free game next to et, freecol and openttd? (i know openttd isnt all free but still)07:13
kwiatHow can i archieve that nautilus automatically displays the folder.jpg as the icon of the folder thats containing that file (like in windowsXP)?07:13
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lemsx1kwiat: find in the theme you are using where is the folder icon and replace it with your own07:14
lemsx1kwiat: make sure you convert to PNG07:14
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pianoboy333Is there anyway to fix my DVI (digital video) problem where the ubuntu loadingscreen, and safemode terminal is distorted? It's fine when I get into ubuntu, the login screen is fine too.07:14
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lemsx1kwiat: http://art.gnome.org07:15
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holobytedhow can I change a partition's label? (fat32)07:15
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kwiatlemsxl you probably misunderstood me?07:15
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ablomenhollywoodstar, cfdisk does the job, theres a gnome tool too07:15
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kwiatlemsxl each folder should have his individual folder icon based on its contained *.jpg07:16
ablomenholobyted,  cfdisk does the job, theres a gnome tool too07:16
_jasonkwiat: I haven't seen a way to do that, try #gnome too07:16
holobytedwhat's the gnome tool called? and, just checking... they don't involve a format, do they?07:16
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kwiat_jason thank you07:16
wastreli changed the hostname of my computer07:17
mirceahey07:17
ablomenholobyted, system => administration => disks07:17
_jasonmircea: hello07:17
ExussumHow can i use mplayer - i isnatlled it but it wont start up :S07:18
holobytedthat tool doesn't let me change labels07:18
_jasonExussum: do you get errors if you try it in a terminal?07:18
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ablomenholobyted, ok than i dont know, google?07:18
kwiat_jason perhaps i could realize it with a script?07:18
CryptidHi, Can i know what is Hibernate mean in the Logout Screen??? how is it diffrent from others and is it usefull????07:18
pianoboy333Is there anyway to fix my DVI (digital video) problem where the ubuntu loadingscreen, and safemode terminal is distorted? It's fine when I get into ubuntu, the login screen is fine too.07:19
kwiat_jason because im allowed to set individual folder icons manually07:19
Belboz99Anyone know why scanning is painfully slow?07:19
Exussum_jason - no it comes up with a list of options - but obviosuly i dont have to JUST use in the terminal ?07:19
ablomenCryptid, its like stand-by07:19
_jasonkwiat: I suppose you could do that, just run a script and set the corresponding icon07:19
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_jasonExussum: do 'mplayer /path/to/moviefile'07:19
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kwiat_jason do you possibly know what kind of file to create or edit who changes this attribute?07:20
instabinis there a program like dvd shrink for linux07:20
_jasonkwiat: not offhand07:20
colmpianoboy333, sorry I was afk.  The problem is most likely with your monitor, not your setup07:20
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kwiat_jason do you have an idea howi could find that out?07:21
NCLifei want to have azureus started at startup, so i added this command to admin>sessions>startup programms, "~/programms/azureus/azureus" but it didnt work..07:21
_jasonkwiat: google :)07:21
instabin!dvdshrink07:21
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, instabin07:21
pianoboy333colm: I can't adjust my image settings from the monitor menu tho.07:21
Cryptidablomen, hmm i never used stanby in windows so i dont know what it is actually used for,,, can u explain its uses does it reduce the power comsumtion or something???07:21
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Exussum_jason - it still wont play "cant open lilo"07:21
kwiat_jason i already tried that *sad07:22
_jasonExussum: lilo huh, one sec07:22
itsmikemust go now 1 alienware area51m 5700 notebook price 550, 1 toshiba M70-DL3 Centrino based laptop $650.  Message me on msn at mcsltd@telusmail.net or aim at itscrazyguymike if interested and wanting to buy! DO NOT MESSAGE OTHERWISE!07:22
NCLifei was thinking, maybe it needs to be run on a terminal? if so, how could i do to open a terminal automaticly at startup and run azureus?07:22
_jasonitsmike: don't do that here!07:22
ablomenCryptid, yeah something like that, it switches off your harddisk etc, isnt realy great or something but keeps the energy bill a litle lower07:22
wastreli'm spamming you, please don't spam me!07:23
Jhairignore itsmike07:23
slideHow can i see if a program (file in init.d) is actualyl going to be run on boot?07:23
Cryptidablomen, oh good thats just what i wanted,,, ne ways does it boot OS faster when u hibernate??07:24
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_jasonExussum: I don't know what lilo is... what does 'mplayer -ao null /path/to/moviefile' do?07:24
kwiat_jason lilo is a boot manager07:24
ablomenCryptid, sort off, i wouldnt recomend it, just switch your pc of if you arnt using it ;)07:24
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kwiat_jason it was commonly used by SuSE07:24
_jasonkwiat: right but he is getting a lilo error starting up mplayer07:24
Bardielhow can i repair grub?07:24
_jasonubotu: tell Bardiel about grub07:25
Bardielits somehow broken, i need to just re-install it, so how?07:25
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_jasonBardiel: ubotu sent you some info07:25
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ExussumLol im usuing GRUB - so its not going to be that07:25
kwiat_jason that sounds crazy07:25
Bardieli don't want ubotu, i want a human being07:25
Exussumactually nvm - Totem works - How can i make it play Real media ?07:25
Cryptidablomen, hehe i will try it out first and then check which is better :-)07:25
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_jasonBardiel: read what he sent you.  Do you want me to just copy and pasate it for you?07:26
_jasonpaste even07:26
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ablomenCryptid, sure its there to use it ;07:26
ablomen;)07:26
_jasonExussum: w32codecs and totem-xine07:26
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Jhairslide: try update-rc.d -n <package> defaults07:28
slidety07:28
gcurtisI've switched from FC3 to Ubuntu.  I don't know why, but I "make" won't work, althought ./configure does!07:28
Jhairslide: if you get System startup links for <package> already exist.07:28
_jasongcurtis: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:28
Jhairslide: your program will run on boot07:29
slidek07:29
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bozzui share my homedir with samba. it works, but i have two questions: is there something that notify connection attempts? and how can i hide/don't share the hidden file with samba?07:29
wastrel\07:29
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_jasonkwiat: if you can't find the file just give a folder some custom icon with a strange name and then grep ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 for the name, and if it's not there grep all the hidden directories in ~ :)07:30
ablomenbozzu, you can hide files by changing the permissions so only you can see them07:30
Bardiel_jason: those directions don't work07:30
mqueirosHas anyone been hable to install ubuntu in a laptop with an ATI Mobility X700 ?07:30
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Bardielcan i have human support now?07:30
benanneHello. I want to create a vmware image for ruby on rails development, to use on college PCs which have vmware player installed. Would a stripped ubuntu fit on a 512 MB usb stick, or failing that an 1 GB one? with the necessary goodies like mysql, radrails etc thrown in? I'm guessing no, but you never know :)07:31
kwiat_jason nice idea! thank you very much07:31
gcurtis_jason, it says I have the latest version07:31
_jason!doesn't work07:31
ubotu[doesn't work]  something you should never say.  Be more specific.07:31
Bardielokay, i'll be more specific07:31
Bardielthose directions do nothing07:31
Bardielat all07:31
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Gimpd    umm...can someone please help me gettin httpd started? i'd managed to get it to work on gentoo...cause the .conf file was kinda detailed...07:32
gcurtis_jason, I've just noticed I have a configure error.  I'll address that first07:32
gcurtisThanks _jason07:32
bozzuablomen, i know that, but i don't want to see the dot.files in my homedir when accessing that dir with a windows computer. i use user security so changing standard permission does not work i think07:32
Gimpdno such luck with ubuntu...any help?? or directions where i can find some? please? :)07:32
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lucaas!xgl07:33
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/07:33
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ablomenbozzu, yeah thats right, maybe you should try the #samba room or something07:33
wastrelBardiel:  what error are you getting07:34
Bardielim not getting an error07:34
Bardielim getting nothing07:34
wastrelso your computer wont' boot?07:34
Gimpdumm...can any one help please? i did mention the problem a moment ago...07:34
Bardielit boots into the cd rescue mode07:34
Bardielis there a command i can enter to just restore the windows MBR?07:34
ToyKeeperAny idea why root would su to the primary user periodically?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/878607:34
_jasonBardiel: did you read the link about recovering grub after installing windows?07:34
Gimpd!httpd07:35
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gimpd07:35
Bardiel_jason: that is the one that did not work07:35
Gimpd!apache07:35
ubotuI heard apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom07:35
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ToyKeeperI keep seeing log entries I can't account for, where root su's to my user twice, about 30 seconds apart.  I haven't been able to find any cron jobs which do this.07:35
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_jasonBardiel: you can restore windows mbr with the windows install disk and entering 'fixmbr' in recovery console, but then you won't be able to use linux07:36
CryptidHow do i increase the refresh RATE OF MY MONITOR FROM DEFAULT OG 60 HZ to 85 Hz ????07:36
Bardiel_jason: i need my system to boot, regardless of which os i can use07:37
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Bardieland grub won't install07:37
hatake_kakashiBardiel: you should install windows first and then let grub work its magic07:37
Bardieli did07:37
Bardielgrub broke itself07:37
Bardieli already had both windows and linux working fine07:38
hatake_kakashihmm07:38
ablomenBardiel, you can try lilo07:38
annahi guys, would someone help me to install the java plugin for firefox?07:38
Gimpd_jason, where can i find help for apache other than on help.ubuntu.com? the page there doesnt help much with the problem?07:38
Bardiellilo won't install either07:38
Bardieland that super grub repair disk didn't work07:38
hatake_kakashi!tell anna about java07:38
_jasonBardiel: you tried using a livecd?07:38
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ktogiasHi, I have installed (for test) Dapper flight 3 on my laptop. I have some issues with X.org not probing the correct HorizSync and VertRefresh of the lcd display and a netgear usb wireless network adapter that works with ndiswrapper under breezy, but not under dapper... Is there any place I sould provide this information as a bug report for the developers?07:38
_jasonGimpd: try ubuntuforums.org and wiki.ubuntu.com07:38
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_jasonGimpd: there is also a mailing list lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/07:39
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mariahey, my update manager says i have 7 updates available, but i cant update because it said it cant get an exclusive lock, so i tried rebooting and it still says the same thing07:39
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_jasonmaria: do you happen to have synaptic open?07:40
amphiBardiel: grub 'broke itself'???07:40
mariai checked my processes to see if apt-get is running, and it isnt07:40
maria_jason: no i dont07:40
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ablomenmaria, have you tried apt-get upgrade?07:40
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mariaablomen : no i havent07:40
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gnomefreakmaria: are you running updates?07:40
annahatake_kakashi: arigatou ;)07:41
mariano im not07:41
mariamaria@ubuntu:~$ apt-get upgrade07:41
mariaE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)07:41
mariaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?07:41
mariamaria@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade07:41
mariaPassword:07:41
mariaE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.07:41
ablomenmaria, you should try that in your terminal (sudo apt-get upgrade) i had some problems with the updater problem 207:41
mariathats the error i got07:41
hatake_kakashianna: iie07:41
annahatake_kakashi are you fan of naruto?07:41
anna^^07:41
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wastrelsudo07:41
hatake_kakashianna: fan of the anime yes, but not a fan of that main character in that anime07:41
amphimaria: do sudo dpkg --configure -a (as it told you)07:41
_jasonmaria: in the future please use a pastebin07:41
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hatake_kakashi!tell maria about pastebin07:42
gnomefreakmaria: run sudo apt-get update and than try sudo apt-get upgrade07:42
Gimpd!7z07:42
ubotuGimpd: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:42
maria_jason : whats a pastebin07:42
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_jasonubotu: tell maria about pastebin07:42
erUSUL!pastebin07:42
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)07:42
hatake_kakashimaria: check the pm from ubotu07:42
Sonobanamaria: try sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:42
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CryptidI am having Sound Problem with Ubuntu 5.10 on my Intel 915GAV motherboard please Help me!!07:42
amphimaria: run the command apt-get gave you _before_ doing apt-get update/upgrade07:42
crimsun!tell Cryptid about ask07:43
annahatake_kakashi that makes sense.. in that case youd probaply call yourself naruto instead of hatake ^^07:43
_jasoncrimsun: you must have a hilight for 'sound problem' :)07:43
amphimaria: note that it is _not_ dpkg --reconfigure -a, but dpkg --configure -a07:43
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mariahey thanks guys, it worked07:43
hatake_kakashianna: blah.. I'd much prefer hatake07:43
maria:)07:43
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syd_any idea how to get a broadcom wlan card up on breezy badger?07:44
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gnomefreakamphi: i have had that same issue as her and sudo apt-get update has fixed it ;)07:44
holobytedhow can I stop Ubuntu from automounting a specified partition?07:44
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Cryptidcrimsun, how much more details u want i gave my Mobo model and i said that i am having sound problems on it (unable to hear any sound)07:44
syd_just delete that line in /etc/fstab07:44
ablomenholobyted, adding noauto in fstab07:44
crimsunCryptid: lspci -v ; cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer07:45
crimsun!tell Cryptid about pastebin07:45
Cryptidcrimsun, i dont mean to be rude just need a solution to my problem07:45
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annahatake_kakashi what book is he reading in almost every episode? *haha07:45
marianow who wants to answer another question :) im using onboard tnt2 graphics, but i also have a trident 3d image 9750 agp card with 4 megs ram on it, what do you think will be faster for video playback, because right now video playback is too slow to watch07:45
annaecchi07:45
crimsunmaria: the tnt207:45
amphignomefreak: I have always had to run dpkg --configure -a on debian after interrupting a package install07:45
hatake_kakashianna: adult stuff :P nothing wrong with that heh07:45
mariacrimsun : thanks :) less work for me07:46
lakcajmplayer -cache 256 http://195.137.248.36:802007:46
hatake_kakashianna: btw whats your favourite character in naruto?07:46
holobyteddoes this look okay to you? fstab snip: /dev/sdd1 none auto noauto 0 007:46
amphiholobyted: no07:46
amphiholobyted: man 5 fstab07:46
hatake_kakashiholobyted: no07:46
apakattis it possible to join multiple channels with password in xchat-gnome, it stopps to join after the first password protected channel07:46
ablomenholobyted, remove the auto and dont use spaces but ,07:47
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holobytedmy fstab file is tab-delimited.. following the fields on the file itself07:47
gnomefreaki cant remember a time i ever ran that command but i have had very minamin issues with debiana dn deb based distos07:47
ablomenholobyted, /dev/sdd1 /media/mountpoint noauto 0 0 | something like that07:47
holobytedfilesystem | mount | type | options | dump | pass07:48
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annahatake_kakashi hm.. thats hard to decide... but i think its naruto, because hes so strongwilled (does this word exist? sorr, im from germany, my english isnt that good)07:48
Cryptidcrimsun, i did what u asked me to please check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/878707:48
ablomenholobyted, /dev/sdd1 /media/mountpoint the_fs_type noauto 0 0 | sorry something like that07:48
hatake_kakashianna: heh07:48
annahatake_kakashi but kakashi is kind of cool too ^^07:48
cfkis there a way to generate a preseed partman-auto/expert_recipe_file from an existing setup?07:48
lemsx1brb07:49
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holobytedthat's what I have... only "none" in place of the mount point, since I don't want it mounted07:49
ablomenholobyted, if you dont want it mounted, why is it in your fstab...?07:49
amphiholobyted: so wtf is it in fstab?07:49
crimsunCryptid: unmute 'Center', 'Surround', and 'Front'07:50
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holobytedI asked you guys how to stop it from being automounted, you told me to use fstab07:50
annahatake_kakashi hm, i think i allready installed java but firefox complains all the time that it lacks of the plugin07:50
crimsunCryptid: and mute 'Front Mic'07:50
amphiholobyted: if you mean you don't want it automounted at boot, put 'noauto' in the options07:50
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Cryptidcrimsun, k will do that07:50
CwiiisAre there any how-tos around on getting dapper/xgl/compiz working?07:50
ablomenholobyted, and if you dont want it at all, youst delete the line in fstab07:50
amphiholobyted: man 5 fstab explains this07:51
holobytedI don't want it automounted at all.. it's the iPod's boot partition, don't want it. and if I delete the line, it gets automounted as soon as I connect the iPod.07:51
crimsunCwiiis: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-February/000079.html07:51
Cwiiiscrimsun: Thanks... Doing that and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Oh well...07:52
crimsunCwiiis: is your graphics driver supported?07:52
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poningruhey guys mounting a file is -o right?07:52
amphiholobyted: ah... 'noauto' prevents the device being mount by mount -a07:52
hatake_kakashianna: you did not link the plugin to it07:52
amphiholobyted: something else is mounting your ipod, adding it to fstab will not help IMHO07:52
Cryptidcrimsun, when do i unmute them from "alsamixer"???07:53
holobyteddo I need to somehow blacklist the partition in the hotplug conf file or something like that?07:53
crimsunCryptid: "when"?07:53
poningruhmm nm07:53
hatake_kakashiponingru: you mean mounting an iso image?07:53
amphiholobyted: you need to find out wtf is mounting it first07:53
poningruyeah07:53
lsuactiafnerif both my linux pcs have an ipv4 and ipv6 ip address, are transfers between them by default ipv6?07:53
poningruhow would you do that?07:53
Cwiiiscrimsun: Yup, nvidia07:53
Cwiiisglx seems to work fine with normal X07:53
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crimsunCwiiis: should work without a problem if you enable the glxcomposite option07:53
akphowdy07:54
trappisthow does one choose a sound card on the command line without alsaconf?07:54
annahatake_kakashi erm, yes.. im still new to linux and i have no clue how to link it07:54
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Cryptidcrimsun, u wanted me to mute and unmute few things rite where do i do it from??07:54
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Cwiiiscrimsun: Do I need to enable composite? I thought Xgl provided that?07:54
crimsunCryptid: yes, 'm' in alsamixer07:54
dylan_can Free Software be sold for a price?07:54
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Jhairdylan_: sure07:55
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dylan_Jhair, okay, so it is not like "freeware"07:55
crimsuntrappist: be more specific?07:55
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akpanyone have experience configuring ubuntu for dual head support?07:55
lsuactiafnerif both my linux pcs have an ipv4 and ipv6 ip address, are transfers between them by default ipv6?07:55
hatake_kakashianna: check the section under that url for 'Java on Mozilla Firefox'07:56
wastrelakp:  it really depends on what videocard & driver you're using07:56
amphidylan_: as the slogan hath it, "It's not the sw that's free, it's you" ;)07:56
Cryptidcrimsun, thanx man u solved my problem07:56
trappistcrimsun: I have an onboard cmedia card and a pci audigy.  ubuntu in its infinite wisdom has chosen my onboard card, but there are no speakers plugged into it, so I'd like to use my audigy.07:56
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crimsuntrappist: are you using breezy or dapper?07:56
crimsunCryptid: np07:57
trappistcrimsun: dapper07:57
annahatake_kakashi i allready did that, but i dont understand it:/07:57
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akpi have an ati.   I've found another with the same laptop who did it -- I'm just finding it a bit obtuse.  Actually, for now I'd be satisified if I could get ubuntu to use the external port rather than the laptop screen.07:57
lsuactiafnertrappist : you disable the onboard card in your bios dude07:57
crimsuntrappist: asoundconf set defaults.pcm.card string07:57
hatake_kakashianna: you don't understand the command? or did it not work?07:57
trappistlsuactiafner: I'm going to be disappointed if that's the solution.  dude.07:57
lsuactiafnertrappist : when you boot up press delete to enter the bios settings and look around to disable somethign sound related07:57
crimsuntrappist: where string is the name in brackets from /proc/asound/cards07:57
skaziWhat does everyone here think of the stability of Ubuntu? 1-10 ? i give it 807:57
lsuactiafnerthree is another one but its too much effort07:58
lsuactiafnerwhen you can just use the bios07:58
IdleOne8.507:58
trappistcrimsun: that takes immediate effect or it does the /etc/mod* thing?07:58
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crimsuntrappist: it's immediate. You need to restart ALSA apps.07:58
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wastrelakp: i'm using  ibm thinkpad / ati 9600 / breezy / xorg / fglrx    i ran fglrxconfig and got video mirroring set up so i can do presentations07:58
trappistawesome07:58
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trappistablomen: please don't do that07:58
lsuactiafnerare nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?07:58
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akpwastrel_ I hadn't seen that utility.  I suppose I should run it with sudo, yes.07:59
wastrelakp:  recommend backing up your existing xorg.conf before trying07:59
civexcuse me for my poor english :p somebody know how I can configure my sound server (alsa) correcty? the problem is what the volume of each application are not independet, i.e, if i put down the vol in xmms it also put down the vol y mplayer, how can I solve it?07:59
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lsuactiafnerwastrel : what card do you have?07:59
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ablomentrappist, sorry pretty new to irc wasnt my intention07:59
crimsunciv: use softvol pcm plugin for alsa-lib on a per-application basis07:59
wastrellsuactiafner:  ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 07:59
lsuactiafnerciv : you can use * and / in mplayer for volume adjustments07:59
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akpwastrel_ definitely -- I have several.  :)08:00
skaziiIdleOne: wich one you say is most stable?08:00
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annahatake_kakashi oh sorry, i was wrong.. ill read the page again..08:01
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trappistcrimsun: that command seemed to run fine, and I doublechecked my "string", but alsa apps return a string of errors beginning with :ALSA lib confmisc.c:1107:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.ctl.card'08:01
civok, but if i put down the xmms vol it also put down mplayer... buh xD !08:02
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yaaarhey guys, how can i resume a torrent that was downloading after i close bittorrent? i have a 2GB file downloading, but I need to reboot the machine08:02
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IdleOneskazii:  there are no real stable distro's because they are always being developed. thats why I gave an 8.5 to ubuntu08:02
trappistyaaar: it happens automatically08:02
colmwoo!  krita 1.5beta has CMYK!  that should put a cat amongst the pigeons for people looking for reasons not to adopt linux.08:02
skaziiOki08:02
IdleOneskazii:  #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place to talk about this08:02
yaaartrappist: ?08:02
civcrimsun, can You give me some more info, i dont understand you...08:02
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hatake_kakashianna: ok08:03
trappistyaaar: just do what you did the first time to download the torrent.  it will find the existing file, check its integrity, and resume the download.08:03
TokenBadis there a text editor for linux that lets you use macros?08:03
yaaartrappist: oh, ok, so go back to the website i found it at and click it again?08:03
trappistTokenBad: vim08:03
colmTokenBad, gvim, emacs08:03
JhairTokenBad: emacs08:03
trappistyaaar: yes08:03
akpTokenBad_ emacs -- in X or commandline.  What are you trying to accomplish?08:03
crimsunciv: tell mplayer to use a software volume08:03
TokenBadI want alot of lines removed from a txt file08:03
TokenBadall the lines start with the same thing08:03
OmegaAlphaanyone familiar with a "opengl-update ati" command08:04
yaaartrappist: where does it put those files? like, say i decide halfway through that i don't really want one, where would i go to remove it?08:04
crimsunciv: if you use the gui, you can set it in the audio options08:04
trappistyaaar: it depends on what client you use, but generally it asks you where you want to put it.08:04
wastrelTokenBad:  grep -v "^foo" file.txt > file1.txt08:04
colmTokenBad, gvim is what i'd use08:04
crimsuntrappist: paste ~/.asoundrc* onto pastebin08:04
JhairTokenBad: probably grep -v could do it without an editor?08:04
civok crimsun , thank y, ill config it08:04
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yaaartrappist: ok, cool, thanks08:04
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colmah, good old grep of course!08:05
TokenBadbut how would I remove the hole line08:05
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JhairTokenBad: grep -v will remove it for you08:05
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trappistcrimsun: .asoundrc includes .asoundrc.asoundconf, where only one line isn't commented: !defaults.pcm.card SB009008:05
ratleyokay, i'm afraid this is a dapper question, but...08:05
annahatake_kakashi well.. there is a very long command that runs through a couple of lines.. do i have to paste it all at once or should i paste it line by line?08:05
ratleymy usb devices have disappeared08:05
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TokenBadI don't understand08:05
crimsuntrappist: pastebin /proc/asound/cards08:06
ratleycould it be udev related?08:06
akpanyone know how to get ubuntu breezy to automatically bring up ath0 then eth0 but not both?  I.e., If no wireless, then try wired?08:06
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trappistcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/878808:07
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TokenBadwastrel, grep -v "^foo" the foo part would be the part I am looking for in the line and it would then remove that full line?08:07
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crimsuntrappist: you didn't use the correct string08:07
hatake_kakashianna: there is only one command that requires two lines, and that's at the 3rd part of that code bit08:07
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Nitro88hi all08:07
wastrelTokenBad:  yes, grep -v  prints lines that don't contain the pattern.  the pattern "^foo"  searches for "foo" at the beginning (^) of a line08:08
Nitro88i've got a problem with Amsn08:08
crimsuntrappist: your /proc/asound/cards lists two names (strings): "CMI8738MC6" and "Audigy"08:08
Nitro88can any help me?08:08
JhairTokenBad: try it08:08
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trappistcrimsun: ah I was using the one in brackets08:08
crimsuntrappist: the ones I named _are_ the ones in brackets08:08
trappistbecause somebody told me to :)08:08
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annahatake_kakashi thank you, ill try gain ^^08:08
trappistoh THOSE brackets08:08
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ratleywhat modules should be loaded for usb?08:09
gnomefreakNitro88: if you tell us the problem you are having when someone knows they will answer you08:09
Nitro88there's any?08:09
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Nitro88ok08:09
trappistcrimsun: works, thanks.  does this constitute an excuse to reconsider packaging alsaconf?08:09
akpwastrel: I just installed flgrx -- where does it put the control panel to configure it?08:09
Nitro88i've just downloaded08:09
Nitro88Amsn08:09
crimsuntrappist: no. alsaconf doesn't do what asoundconf does.08:09
Nitro88but is very ugly08:09
hatake_kakashi!enter08:09
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!08:09
Nitro88how to get beautiful fonts?08:10
wastrelakp i don't know of any control panel, fglrxconfig is a command line program08:10
trappistcrimsun: true, but I could have done this with alsaconf and its nice ncurses menu.08:10
annahatake_kakashi : thats odd, nothing happened.. it only sais "file exists"08:10
crimsuntrappist: or you could have done this from GNOME's System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card08:10
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akpok -- never mind.  it didn't really download -- I had to update my package list.  Weird.08:10
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trappistcrimsun: except I don't use gnome and kde let me choose from among something higher level than a card, and I couldn't do it with their interface08:11
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crimsuntrappist: allow me to suggest that you bribe Kubuntu developers into using asoundconf, then.08:11
hatake_kakashianna: what was the last line you typed?08:11
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crimsunregardless, alsaconf is deprecated and serves a purpose that's virtually a non-issue in Ubuntu.08:12
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SpecIs there anyone here planning on attending FOSE, if so, are you doing so to represent the goodness of Ubuntu?08:12
annahatake_kakashi sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/08:12
trappistcrimsun: will do.  but it sure would be nice for us console junkies to have something to use without having to look names up in /proc etc.08:12
crimsuntrappist: and alsaconf is not the answer you seek08:12
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wastrelwhat's fose08:13
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hatake_kakashianna: I mean the first time when you did that ln -s ?08:13
yanimaxwhat application do you suggest to use to read newsfroups on gnome ?08:13
crimsunyanimax: pan08:13
Nitro88any know how to get better AMSN 0.95?08:13
trappistcrimsun: it served me well for years.  I totally understand the objections to it, but it shouldn't be too hard to replace, I'd think, if we hate it so much.08:13
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Specwashington dc, government + technology convention, one of the biggest.08:13
TokenBadthanks guys08:13
TokenBadthat worked great08:13
bDerrlyany dapper users getting an error about not being able to open /usr/share/X11/rgb when trying to run Xgl?08:13
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wastreldoesn't gaim have an msn plugin?08:13
crimsuntrappist: then just extend asoundconf to spit out /proc/asound/card values for you08:13
annahatake_kakashi sorry, i dont remember :(08:13
crimsuncards, rather08:14
annahatake_kakashi is there a way to find out, what version of java im using?08:14
trappistcrimsun: well by golly it seems it's python.  I can live without python but I might just be able to manage that.08:14
Nitro88yes wastrel08:14
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hatake_kakashianna: ok try this, ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/08:14
Nitro88but AMsn is better about configuration08:14
trappistor maybe I could just port it to ruby ;)08:15
OmegaAlphaanyone know the command  to update opengl libraries08:15
hatake_kakashianna: err when you installed it, it will tell you which version.. or dpkg --list| grep java08:15
trappistOmegaAlpha: depends what opengl libraries you use.  I update them by updating my nvidia drivers.08:15
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instabinis there a program like dvd shrink for linux08:15
shanonxOk I need some intall help, I just tried to install ubuntu, and got everything correctly installed but when I booted it gave me an error and said that my X server was configured incorrectly and took me to the login prompt..... how can i configure x server to work properly?08:16
hatake_kakashiinstabin: google for videohelp08:16
instabinthanks08:16
OmegaAlphatrappist, thanks whats the command to do that then?08:16
hatake_kakashiinstabin: videohelp is a site btw08:16
annahatake_kakashi there a quite a few files listed in the folder ..08:16
trappistOmegaAlpha: you could try sudo apt-get install nvidia-common, but I get mine from nvidia.com08:16
trappistOmegaAlpha: sorry, nvidia-glx not nvidia-common08:17
foampeaceis it worth it to recompile the kernel?08:17
foampeace!ubotu kernel08:17
hatake_kakashianna: ok ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/| grep java08:17
trappistfoampeace: for what purpose?08:17
hatake_kakashifoampeace: why?08:17
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foampeaceI wonder if it might be better to compile it yourself for optimization08:18
OmegaAlphatrappist, thanks. im trying to solve this ATI GLX extension missing problem i have for 3d acc.08:18
annahatake_kakashi okay, it sais the following: libjavaplugin_oji.so08:18
hatake_kakashifoampeace: you would, but there would be things that would break here and there08:18
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anna libjavaplugin.so08:18
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cfkwhere can i get dapper-server ?08:19
trappistOmegaAlpha: erm, I don't recommend installing nvidia drivers if you have an ati card08:19
foampeacehatake_kakashi: like what might break?08:19
hatake_kakashianna: hmm.. goto firefox, open a new tab, type in 'about:plugins' without quote and into the address bar, check to see if you can see java on the list08:19
trappistubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about ati08:19
hatake_kakashifoampeace: eg, using nvidia/ati drivers that was from the repo08:19
ratleyhas anyone else had usb problems in dapper?08:20
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foampeacethe time and date settings wont load in breezy08:20
ratleyfor me, lsusb returns nothing08:20
gnomefreakratley: not me but you might want to see if nayone filed a bug or 2 on it08:20
OmegaAlphatrappist, the command i wanted to try but doesnt work is opengl-update ati08:21
ratleyi've been searching the forums, but it's tough with no mouse08:21
trappistOmegaAlpha: ubotu gave you a link to check out08:21
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annahatake_kakashi no, theres only something about shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player08:21
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shanonxgnomefreak: hey I talked to you this morning about intstalling without my NIC card... well I got it installed but now when I boot I get an error saying X server isnt configured correctly.08:21
OmegaAlphatrappist, yeah sorry. for some reason when i click links in xchat they dont open up auto for me08:21
ChrisX1hey i need help mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed08:21
ChrisX1error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)'08:21
gnomefreakratley: you want to look at launchpad its a little early in release to check forums i think bugs are best bet08:22
ChrisX1But mysql is running08:22
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erUSULshanonx, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:22
hatake_kakashianna: ok, so I presume you did that mkdir command, that ln -s command and also that sudo ln -s command from the website?08:22
annahatake_kakashi and here i wanted to study computer science.. guess im to slow for that..08:22
gnomefreakshanonx: in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and re do all the proper settings08:22
bDerrlyhas anyone tried running Xgl with dapper?08:22
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annahatake_kakashi yes i did..08:22
trappistanna: you give up too easily08:22
hatake_kakashianna: you're only human08:22
hatake_kakashianna: hmm08:22
wastreldamn why is everyone obsessed with xgl08:23
gnomefreakbecause it breaks?08:23
bDerrlywastrel, why not?08:23
trappistwastrel: because it's the biggest thing on the linux desktop since X08:23
Belboz99anyone know why my scanner is transferring images so slowly?08:23
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ratleywhat's the address for launchpad?08:23
heliotropewhats xgl08:23
gnomefreakwhy were people obbsesed with dapper in dec?08:23
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IdleOnegnomefreak:  they still are08:23
gnomefreakratley: i think its www.launchpad.com but not positive08:24
ChrisX1gnomefreak is dapper released?08:24
bDerrlyso, no one has answered my question  :)08:24
gnomefreakChrisX1: nope08:24
ChrisX1okay08:24
Belboz99no one is answering my question eitehr08:24
hatake_kakashianna: ok try this, sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/08:24
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hatake_kakashi!tell heliotrope about xgl08:24
annahatake_kakashi everything at once?08:24
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gnomefreakbDerrly: if noone answered either noone has had an issue or noone uses it check launchpad for bugs many people have had issues with it08:25
Belboz99I've been trying to get this problem solved for hours and no one  has bothered to acknowledge my existance :(08:25
DaSkreec1how do I create a .Xauthority file?08:25
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: its there by default08:25
Cryptidcrimsun, do u know how can i increase the refresh rate of my monitor from defualt of 60Hz to 85Hz or above in windows my refresh rate was 85 and it worked well but i am unable to set the refresh rate as 85 in Ubuntu08:25
hatake_kakashianna: that sudo rm command to the end of what I last wrote, yes08:25
annahatake_kakashi <- ninja of the hidden ubuntu knowledge ^^08:25
hatake_kakashianna: heh08:25
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: open your home folder and click on veiw and than hidden files you will see it there08:25
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hatake_kakashior should you say hidden linux knowledge08:26
crimsunCryptid: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:26
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Belboz99Cryptid, you have to set your maximimum refresh to your monitor's max refresh, not your resolution's max refresh, if that makes sense08:26
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annahatake_kakashi hm.. doesnt seem to change anything yet.. nothing happened..08:27
OmegaAlphatrappist, can you have ubotu display the url since i cant click links in here for some reason08:27
Mosi_does breezy use cups or lpd?08:27
Mosi_or both?08:27
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: and if it is not?08:27
gnomefreakbDerrly: did you try #xgl-ubuntu08:27
trappist!tell OmegaAlpha about ati08:27
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: than you deleted it?08:27
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: its there by default in breezy and dapper08:27
hatake_kakashianna: what it did before is to remove that link and to relink it again, restart firefox and check under about:plugins again08:28
Belboz99Cryptid, what I mean by that is if my old Dell could do 1152x864 @ 75hz, I need to set the max refresh to 85hz.  That is the highest refresh my monitor was capable of.08:28
annahatake_kakashi okay.. just a moment08:28
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OmegaAlphacrap it just sends "OmegaAlpha" as the link08:28
wastrelBelboz99:  are they particularly large files?  is your RAM getting eaten up & you end up doing a lot of disk access swapping out chunks of memory08:28
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wastrelBelboz99:  is your hard drive slow?  dma?08:28
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: true :) but I can't run gksudo It complains about the .Xauthoriuty file08:29
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: you have to beable to veiw the hidden files to see it08:29
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: It's not there08:29
_6ix_Why would it tell me only superusers can use dpkg?08:29
Belboz99wastrl, thanks for answering.  It seems to be the USB speed.  The scanner completes an 8 Megapixel scan in under 30 seconds, but transferring it takes about 5 minutes08:29
gnomefreak_6ix_: because only superusers can use it08:29
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: can I refresh the making of my home dir?08:29
annahatake_kakashi o_O08:30
_6ix_How do I become a superuser so I can install my printer drivers?08:30
hatake_kakashi_6ix_: because it has to install/remove specific files that normal users do not have priviledged access to08:30
hatake_kakashianna: what?08:30
ChrisX1hey i need help mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed08:30
_jasonubotu: tell _6ix_ about sudo08:30
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: even if you make it its not gonna have anything in it08:30
ChrisX1error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)'08:30
ChrisX1But mysql is running08:30
wastrelBelboz99:  i don't know anything about usb :] 08:30
hatake_kakashi_6ix_: sudo <command>08:30
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Belboz99wastrel, I'm using Vuescan as the scanning software, sane isn't even involved08:30
CryptidBelboz99, how do i know my monitors max refresh rate?? under Windows my desktop resolution use to be 1024x768 at refresh ra te of 85Hz08:30
_6ix_Hrmm, let me read this, thanks08:30
annahatake_kakashi why should something be easy when it can be difficoult as well?08:30
Cryptidcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8789 check it out08:30
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: can i ask why you deleted it?08:30
annahatake_kakashi did not work.. sorry ./08:30
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: I didn't08:30
hatake_kakashianna: hmm08:31
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: It's just not there08:31
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: I added the user in a non mundane way08:31
hatake_kakashianna: is your version of firefox from the repos?08:31
DaSkreec1So the home folder might be messed up08:31
Belboz99Cryptid, should be in your monitor's manual, you should be able to find it online at your manufacter's website, or you can just guss and say something like 100hz08:31
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: can you open your home folder in natulis?08:31
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annahatake_kakashi oh .. i dont remember that.. silly me08:32
annaarg08:32
yanimaxcrimsun: thanks, pan looks very good08:32
gnomefreaknatilus*08:32
hatake_kakashianna: well I'll bbiab, restarting X with nvidia module08:32
pawelnautilus08:32
pawel;>08:32
gnomefreakthat too ty08:33
gnomefreaklol08:33
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: Yes08:33
Belboz99anyone know of any propblems with Ubuntu and nVidia's nForce 2 USB 2.0 controller?08:33
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gnomefreakDaSkreec1: click on view and than hidden files/folders08:33
C0deNiNja_6ix_, simply because of that08:33
kyoHow do I change my user password in bash?08:33
DaSkreec1right08:33
Speckyo: man passwd08:33
DaSkreec1kyo: passwd08:33
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: you dont see it anywhere?08:33
Belboz99anyone know how to check what USB speed my devices are connected at?08:33
DaSkreec1no08:34
Speclsusb maybe? is there such a thing?08:34
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gnomefreakhmmmm08:34
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DaSkreec1gnomefreak: there must be some way to create it correct?08:35
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Belboz99Spec: Bus 003 Device 004: ID 04b8:012a Seiko Epson Corp. is what it spits out08:35
Cryptidcrimsun, got ne way of increasing the refresh rate yet????08:35
crimsunCryptid: note line 160408:35
cfkdapper-server image is the same as normal? dapper-install-i386.iso08:35
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Cryptidcrimsun, yes i see 43-60 what do i do? just replace 60 with 85??08:37
crimsunCryptid: you need a vertrefresh option08:38
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crimsunCryptid: you can google for the syntax08:38
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: mkxauth?08:38
Frafrahi all08:38
OmniColoshello!08:38
Frafrawhat I should install for use aclocal?08:38
gnomefreakDaSkreec1: if you find out what app/program makes that file/generates the file you cna try reinstalling it but thats the long way around. i dont know of a shorter way. either way i am having a hard time believing that that is causeing your error because a fix for X hanging is to delete that and the ICEauthority08:38
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snoozixdo i have a chance to modify how many lines are scrolled in X when i use the mouse wheel? the smooth wheel extension for firefox does exactly what i need, but i would like something like that for kde, opera, konqueror and all the other stuff, too.08:39
OmniColosread all about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=744474#post74447408:39
Cryptidcrimsun, k i will try looking up for it08:39
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crimsunFrafra: automake1.x (where x = {6,7,8,9})08:39
Belboz99Hey, it seems that I am connected at USB 2.0.  I'm going to have a heck of a time figuring out why the connection is so slow :(08:39
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shanonxgnomefreak: when i run xserver reconfigure, it asks me for the pCI address of my graphics card, and my graphics card is a PCI-Express, how can i found out the address of that card if I don't know it?08:39
luluhas anyone tried running 'nachos' on linux?08:39
Frafrathanks crimsun08:39
gnomefreakto make an empty file you would use mkdir path/to file08:39
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erUSULshanonx, try lspci08:40
gnomefreaklaspci output should help you there shanonx08:40
gnomefreaklspci even08:40
videofreakwhy is ubuntu better than other linux distros?08:40
Frafracrimsun: you're right :)08:40
DaSkreec1gnomefreak: can I recreate the home folder for a user?08:40
DaSkreec1videofreak: The community08:40
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gnomefreakDaSkreec1: that im sure you can but i dont know how08:41
OmniColosvideofreak, community community community08:41
SpecThe stability? the release cycles?08:41
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_jasonDaSkreec1: what do you mean by recreate?08:41
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mzinzDuring boot I get long delays on "configuring network interfaces".  How do I fix this?08:41
gnomefreakubuntu is for anyone from beginners to experts :)08:41
OmniColosplus because of debians popularity, there si lots of other help avail too08:41
concept10What gnome version does dapper have at the moment08:42
gnomefreak2.13.9008:42
IdleOneI hate Macs08:42
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concept10gnomefreak, are you on dapper now?08:42
gnomefreakconcept10: yes08:42
IdleOnedamn cd stuck in the drive and cant get it out08:42
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concept10gnomefreak, how is the stability?08:42
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OmniColostheres a little key in the top right to eject08:42
tattersHow do I enable hidden files and folders in ubuntu?08:42
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DaSkreec1_jason: remake it as if the user was just created08:43
IdleOneOmniColos:  doesnt work08:43
xnullconcept10 is table08:43
xnullstable*08:43
OmniColosidle: *top right of the kb08:43
_jasonDaSkreec1: it's just and empty folder08:43
DaSkreec1_jason: really?08:43
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gnomefreakconcept10: right this sec it has some crashing of apps but how stable will it be tomorrow only tomorrow will tell08:43
OmniColoshmm must be a mac thing XD08:43
DaSkreec1_jason: so what creates the .Xauthority file?08:43
IdleOneOmniColos:  tried to install Mandriva on it install failed btw and now the cd is stuck in there08:43
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OmniColoseven after rebbot?08:43
concept10I need to jump on dapper, i got on breezy early and didnt have any problems, just many updates08:43
OmniColosreboot08:43
_jasonDaSkreec1: when you start gnome it will create the files it needs as will other programs the first time you start them08:43
wastreli'm sleepy08:44
DaSkreec1_jason: will gnome or will metacity08:44
IdleOneOmniColos:  yup08:44
DaSkreec1I'm runing compiz08:44
OmniColos:o08:44
_jasonDaSkreec1: heh I don't know who does it08:44
gnomefreakconcept10: i suggest if you want a stable system to stick with breezy08:44
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DaSkreec1_jason: blast!! I need to find out what makes that file08:44
_jasonDaSkreec1: how come?08:44
concept10gnomefreak, gimme an example of what app crashes?08:44
DaSkreec1I'll find out after lunch and tell you08:44
ccc_IdleOne: it can't eject if its mounted. perhaps you're standing in the cdrom dir in a terminal? you could try "sudo eject" too08:44
gnomefreakscreem08:44
IdleOneOmniColos:  think Im going to take it outside and use it to hold up my car08:44
DaSkreec1_jason: cause it's not there08:44
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IdleOneccc_:  Mac doesnt boot at all08:45
DaSkreec1and I can't gksudo08:45
tattersHow do I viewe hidden files and folders in ubuntu?08:45
Mosi_hey folks, i'm trying to install naim v.0.11.8, and the configure script says i have no curses library08:45
_jasonDaSkreec1: .Xauthority? did you try logging in to gnome?08:45
Spectatters: long listing08:45
gnomefreaktatters: view>hiddenfiles08:45
Mosi_even though i can run Irssi and an olver version of naim08:45
Specls -hal08:45
Mosi_*older08:45
ccc_IdleOne: oh... ok.08:45
wastrelMosi_:  you're compiling naim?08:45
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SpecMosi_: do you have the curses library?08:46
DaSkreec1_jason: I'm in gnome now08:46
gnomefreaknaim is in repos why would you compile it :(08:46
concept10gnomefreak, screem sucks anyway :)08:46
SpecMosi_: you need something along the lines of libcurses-dev08:46
_jasonDaSkreec1: logout of gnome and log back in08:46
DaSkreec1Ok08:46
Mosi_wastrel: trying to, apt-get only has an older version that uses an outdated protocol08:46
gnomefreakconcept10: but im just saying use at own risk what works today is not garentied to work tomorrow08:46
tattersok thnx, i was creating a .thpasswd file and acidently named it .htpassword then it dissapared08:46
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tatters.htpasswd08:46
Mosi_or so i have been led to believe... since it won't connect and complains that it's too old08:47
IdleOneOmniColos:  all I get is a blinking folder with the mac icon and a question mark :/08:47
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wastrelto compile you need the dev thingy what spec said08:47
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gnomefreakthat is what they mean by its not stable08:47
concept10gnomefreak, im looking for the page for list of _major_ changes.  for example breezy used gcc 4 instead of 3.408:47
Mosi_spec: thanks08:47
psycodethe archive.ubuntu.com repository doesn't seem to work, what should i replace it with?08:47
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OmniColosIdleOne, ouch08:47
gnomefreakconcept10: and dapper uses gcc408:47
gnomefreakbreezy kernel was compiled with gcc3.408:47
tattersbut accidently named it .htpassword and it went hidden08:48
Mosi_spec: libcurses-dev isn't available from any repo in my list :(08:48
dooglusconcept10: dapper doesn't work with xubuntu-desktop at all at the moment08:48
concept10gnomefreak, yeah, all of my kernels are with 3.408:48
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gnomefreaktatters: all ~/.files are hidden08:48
IdleOneguess I have a good reason to take this piece of crap off my desk now08:48
IdleOne:(08:48
mzinzHow can I compress a file in .zip format?08:48
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dooglusmzinz: no need; it's already compressed08:48
_jasonmzinz: man zip :)08:48
gnomefreaksure it does08:48
Mosi_tatters: why don't you just rename it from a terminal?08:48
Belboz99hey, how do I allow a normal access to USB devices?08:49
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gnomefreakim on xfce :)08:49
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tattersbut .htpassword has no tilde?08:49
concept10dooglus, whats the issue? basically im trying to find out what major components have been changed, i will judge wether i should upgrade with that08:49
tattersis tha t a system file or something?08:49
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wastrelisn't it supposed to be .htpasswd08:49
Mosi_tatters: ~ refers to your home directory.... i.e. /home/tatters/.htpassword08:49
dooglusconcept10: xubuntu-desktop: Depends: xfdesktop4 but it is not going to be installed08:49
concept10I only use a couple of xfce app (most notably, the terminal - it rocks)08:49
OmniColosIdleOne, maybe check this: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=10688208:49
gnomefreakdooglus: have you done todays updates08:49
Mosi_tatters: is the file in your home folder?08:50
tattersit was wetral but I accidently maned it .htpassword08:50
shanonxgnomefreak: oh well i still get the error (EE) no devices detected, Fatal error: no screens found...... so how do i get grub out of my master boot?08:50
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tattersyes mosi08:50
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tatterswell I created t my home folder08:50
OmniColosIdleOne, using the firmware method08:50
gnomefreakshanonx: why do you want grub off mbr?08:50
Mosi_tatters: open a terminal and do this: 'ls -a .??*'08:50
dooglusgnomefreak: I've updated today if that's what you mean08:50
mzinz_jason, im reading the man page but its so much info to take in.. which param is for creating an archive from a dir?08:50
shanonxgnomefreak: because it looks like ubuntu cannot handle pci-express, at least with this motherboard08:51
rewt_Hello all.08:51
monomacoafter installing xorg down, -->/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! any help plz?08:51
Mosi_tatters: do you see it?08:51
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OmniColosIdleOne, or even: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/ASCC/documentation/mackeys.html08:51
Mosi_tatters: the file should be in the list ls gives you08:51
gnomefreakdooglus: ive had xubuntu-desktop installed for a few weeks it hasnt given me a lick of problems and today i saw a crap load of xfce updates08:51
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concept10gnomefreak, i guess i dont need that much stability, i only use a couple of apps, FF 1.5, TB, Vim, Nautilus, xfce-terminal, and VLC08:51
wastrelmzinz:  to search in a man page type /searchterm<enter>08:51
dooglusgnomefreak: whatversionof xubuntu-desktop do you have?08:51
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tattersk mos thnxi I gotta go through webmin it takes me cpl of mins08:51
jrhonkhow i get sounds work in enemy-territory?08:52
_jasonmzinz: I believe you just do zip file.zip /path/to/directory, not sure...08:52
gnomefreakdefault dooglus  i think its 408:52
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jrhonki use alsa08:52
dooglusgnomefreak: I mean "dpkg -l xubuntu-desktop"08:52
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!lilo:*! hmmm, here's an interesting opportunity. this alienware person seems to be waiting for people to message him on AIM address 'itscrazyguymike' in order to let him know they want to buy his merchandise. if a number of people message him instead to let him know that we really find his advertising on freenode irritating, perhaps he'll remove freenode from the distribution list08:52
gnomefreaklol08:52
dooglusgnomefreak: it will be 1.<something>08:52
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gnomefreakdooglus: there is no version08:52
dooglusgnomefreak: every package file has a version number08:53
virusWhere can I set the resolutions for my x server? I tried editing /etc/xorg.conf directly, but it doesn't change a thing - not even the server output changes. It provides only the two resolution that I gave him during install time: 640x480 and 800x600. I've got a radeon 8200 and would like to have native pal resolution: 768x57608:53
gnomefreakdooglus: i thought that too08:53
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Mosi_tatters: once you've made sure the file is in the directory you're in, just rename it: 'mv .htpassword .htpasswd'08:53
kyomy network is lagging ... :(08:53
gnomefreakhold on let me pastebin this08:53
mzinz_jason, thank you08:53
jrhonkHow i can get sounds work in Wolfenstein: Enemy-Territory? I am using alsa.08:53
dooglusgnomefreak: version <none> means you don't have it installed...08:53
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akpwastrel: thanks for the info on fglrxconfig -- that sweeted me up!08:53
_jasonmzinz: why are you using zip?08:53
Mosi_tatters: the last argument is the filename to rename it to, so make it whatever you want. if you take the . off, it will become visible again08:53
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gnomefreakhold on brb08:54
wastrelakp:  schweet :] 08:54
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shibwith what program can i watch .avi or .wmv files?08:54
rewt_Shib08:55
virusshib, mplayer, vlc and totem (or any other gstreamer/xine based player)08:55
Mosi_shib: try mplayer08:55
_jasonmzinz: oh and the man page says I was wrong, you need to do zip -r08:55
rewt_mplayer works fine. I use it08:55
shibk08:55
psycodewhere can i find repositories that work???08:55
jrhonkHOW I CAN GET SOUNDS WORK IN ENEMY-TERRITORY?08:55
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viruspsycode: it depends on what you need? official ubuntu repositories or just some additional stuff?08:55
doogluspsycode: archive.ubuntu.com08:55
lsuactiafnerare nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?08:56
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_jasonjrhonk: your caps lock seems to be broken too08:56
psycodedooglus, it doesnt seem to work..08:56
virusjrhonk: please describe your problem? Is your sound working in other apps than enemy territory. And pls. repair your keyboard, you're writing all uppercase.08:56
anders__I have a problem getting mplayer to work. "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device". Hov do I know which video driver to use?08:56
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!lilo:*! Someone has suggested to me that it may just be a mail harvester....so maybe the messages are not such a great idea08:57
Ethyl*crains l'alcool08:57
virusanders__, mplayer -vo help in order to get a list of available video outputs. Usualy xv, sdl and x11 work fine (in that order)08:57
anders__I have set XWindows with X11 in the multimedia systems selector08:57
psycodevirus, the official and the additional ... i have the list but the server is down or something :\08:57
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doogluspsycode: can you see http://archive.ubuntu.com in a web browser?08:57
viruspsycode, I'd say try a different mirror then, there are plenty of ubuntu repository servers out there.08:57
psycodedooglus, yes.. weird08:58
doogluspsycode: so can I.  that would suggest that the server isn't down.08:58
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anders__virus: thx, giving it a try now08:58
doogluspsycode: I can also download packages from it; another hint that it's working.08:58
jrhonkyeah i get it work08:58
viruspsycode, are you behind a firewall/proxy and did you set up the proxy correctly for apt?08:58
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shanonxanyone have any other ideas on how to get my PCI-express card to work so that Xserver will work right?08:58
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Mosi_tatters: did that solve the problem?08:59
gnomefreakdooglus: i logged out of xfce and back in and it looked screwy08:59
gnomefreaktodays updates screwed it up :(08:59
virusAnyone using fglrx here and knows how to set the resolution? /etc/xorg.conf doesn't have any effect on the resolution. :-/08:59
psycodevirus, no.. it used to work...08:59
tattersmosi yup thnx im still working it but I unerstand thnx.. lol I am V slow08:59
gnomefreakthe menu was 2 bottons and the desktops the time was in top right corner08:59
psycodevirus, a friend of mine has the same problem09:00
dooglusgnomefreak: it was screwed up for me about this time yesterday.  today''s updates have made it better, but still not right.09:00
wastrelvirus:  xorg.conf works for me... i'm using fglrx09:00
gnomefreakbuttons*09:00
kyoMy network is lagging ... and I'm not using any bandwidth. o_O09:00
videofreakwhy is linux better than dos?09:00
gnomefreaklinux doesnt compare to dos 2 different things09:00
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viruspsycode: I'm always getting 800x600 or 640x480 - I just want a custom resolution. No errors in the server log - nothing... those proprietary drivers suck. :-(09:00
deefzikyo, the grandpa next door is downing pr0n through your shared gateway ;>09:00
gnomefreakUnix is better than dos tho :)09:00
!lilo:*! Interesting. Apparently two users have actually received annoyed messages from itscrazyguymike.09:01
videofreakdeefzi is hacking kyo?09:01
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gnomefreakdooglus: that was the first time i logged out of xfce ina  few days09:01
!lilo:*! Maybe this strategy will actually work.09:01
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kyorealy slow right now ...09:01
kyobrb09:01
deefzivideofreak, with my superior ping-flood sk33lz? yes!09:01
gnomefreakgrrrrrrr i hate screem :(09:01
dooglusgnomefreak: how do you update?  from the command line, or using a gui?09:01
!lilo:*! There are reports he's 'offline', but that may mean he's blocking people09:01
gnomefreakcli09:01
deefzivideofreak, i want one... MILLION DOLLARS! otherwise i shall ping the internet down.09:01
dooglusgnomefreak: I'm surprised it would uninstall xubuntu-desktop without you noticing09:02
anders__virus: I get the message "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available". I have an ATI card (Dell inspiron 6000)09:02
gnomefreaki find cli updates are faster09:02
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videofreakhow come there isn't msn for linux?09:02
maihemgaim?09:02
gnomefreakdooglus: i didnt see it the only thing ive done was with gaim trying to compile it it was getting rid of xubuntu-desktop09:02
videofreakohh09:02
Alexi5god bless ubuntu09:02
videofreakwhat about microsoft word?09:02
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OmniColos;-)09:02
Alexi5linux of all linucies09:02
rewt_Alexi5, indeed.09:02
Ofevideofreak,  msn is microsoft product. there is similar programs, like gaim09:02
maihemopenoffice09:02
gnomefreakand that was 2 days worth of crap :(09:03
wastrelvideofreak:  abiword, openoffice09:03
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shanonxlspci results: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies, Uknown device 7166 ;  0000:01:00.1 Display controller , Ati Tech. Uknown device 716609:03
virusvideofreak, I recommend you to read about "preemtive multitasking" ... just one thing that stands out, I'd say. :)09:03
rewt_shannon09:03
psycodevirus, my problem might be with my DNS servers..09:03
heliotropehow can i install a windows media player plugin to firefox? whenever i try to do it it sends me to microsofts site to download the entire media player09:03
rewt_go in your terminal\09:03
Alexi5i never used it but god bless it.i am downloading it now09:03
rewt_and type       sudo update-pciids09:03
videofreaklinux's multi tasking is preemptive?09:03
_jasonheliotrope: use mplayer plugin09:03
_jasonheliotrope: with w32codecs09:03
gnomefreakheliotrope: this isnt microsoft windows you gonna have a hell of a time adding something made by ms09:03
maihemvideofreak, yeah, like windows 95 onwards09:03
videofreakooh09:04
heliotrope_jason, where / how can i do that09:04
viruspsycode, can you lookup hosts from the command line ... just try "dig archive.ubuntu.com"09:04
gnomefreak!mplayer09:04
ubotuit has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106109:04
_jasonubotu: tell heliotrope about mplayer09:04
maihemonly linux did it since 1991 when its earliest developer versions were released09:04
videofreaki thought it is non preemptive all along09:04
heliotrope_jason, thanks09:04
_jasonubotu: tell heliotrope about w32codecs09:04
OmniColoshe might be better off with VLC09:04
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videofreaki'm running linux on 486 = (09:05
psycodevirus, dig works, but ping to archive.ubuntu.com returns "unknown host" while in windows (where my DNS is configured directly) ping works...09:05
virusvideofreak, cooperative multitasking would be pretty bad idea... one hanging app just crashes the whole system.09:05
_jasonOmniColos: well it's an alternative, but why better off?09:05
OmniColos_jason good point09:05
viruspsycode, how did you configure  your IP and DNS? Do you use DHCP or a static setup?09:05
chalcedonydoes anybody have any idea why Audacity would say it has a problem and wont' let me record or play?09:06
shanonxrewt: that wont work either because ubuntu wont detect my onboard NIC card either09:06
OmniColosbut I found vlc a very quick solution without having to downlad lots of support pacakges09:06
!lilo:*! okay, cool....if you are irritated by the advertising, please use AIM to let itscrazyguymike know it....there's definitely a human being there, and we can let him know he is violating the terms of service of freenode by doing this, and we're not at all happy about it ;)09:06
crimsunchalcedony: make sure nothing is holding /dev/dsp open09:06
bur[n] eris there such thing as a changelog for dapper packages that be accessed via rs?09:06
gnomefreakit wont open from term either :( oh well guess ill wait a few days a week until its fixed09:06
maihemvideofreak: linux was originally written for 386, if you have the right GUI software (ie, only as fancy as the stuff you got on windows 3.0), then you should be able to find a linux to run fine on a 486. Ubuntu, however, won't run on the typical 486 - you gotta be from a wealthy country to us it.09:06
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psycodevirus, static IP, DNS through the router i belive... i can't access my linux computer directly, just through SSH so it's hard for me to check these things (no GUI)..09:06
crimsunbur[n] er: via rss? Yes, there's a feed for dapper-changes.09:06
virusanders__, it seams that the drivers aren't working properly. You can try 'sdl' and 'x11' as output, but you probably suffer from slow screen refresh anyways?09:06
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shanonxrewt_: i have the drivers for my nic card on another drive that is a USB drive but i dont know how to mount it... <--(noob)09:07
Flight3Could some kind person please DCC me their dapper Flight 3 sources.list?09:07
bur[n] ercrimsun: but that doesn't show the "changelog" it just says there is a new version, not what that version does09:07
videofreakhaha09:07
videofreaknice09:07
OmniColosvideofreak, you might try puppy linux09:07
Flight3I just accidently erased it * embarrased *09:07
gnomefreakubotu tell Flight3 about sources09:07
alejandrojoin /ubuntu-es09:07
viruspsycode, do you have the router IP in your /etc/resorv.conf ?09:07
videofreaki'm actually on pentium 20009:07
celerexI installed Breezy with succes, then i chages my sources list to Dapper and did update / -f upgrade09:07
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gnomefreakFlight3: read the pm ubotu sent you09:07
viruspsycode, pardon, /etc/resolv.conf09:07
Flight3ok thx09:07
anders__virus: I think I do. videos play in VLC, but they don't look very good09:07
videofreaki used to have 50mb ram free09:07
rewt_Shanon, why not go to the site in linux and just download the drivers?09:07
videofreakbut why do i have 3mb after i install apache2?09:08
gnomefreakcelerex: you might have better luck with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:08
celerexthat broke my install, neither the 2.6.15 nor the 2.6.12 kernel will boot, can't find my root partition. I ran a dist-upgrade and now only 1 package is being held back. I still can't boot my system though09:08
psycodevirus, yup ("nameserver 10.0.0.2") ---> but this setting caused trouble in windows, where i had to configure the DNS servers directly for it to work.. can i do that in linux?09:08
virusanders__, I'm no fglrx expert at all - having a lot of problems with my old radeon 8200, too. ATI driver support really sucks. :-/09:08
gnomefreakcelerex: you knew dapper isnt stable before doing that right?09:08
shanonxrewt_: cause im so new to linux that i dont know how to do that from the prompt09:08
celerexWhen i boot the recovery console versions, it just says 'ERROR: can't find /dev/sda2'09:08
maihemvideofreak, unused ram is wasted ram. Linux uses all the ram available as best as possible.09:08
lsuactiafneranders__ : mplayer -vo help09:08
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lsuactiafneranders__ : you still here?09:08
lsuactiafnerare nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?09:08
wastrelcelerex:  your new kernels arent loading scsi modules?09:08
celerexi suspected, but the fact that it can't find my root partition but actually has all my modules in the system makes me think I can modify some file and it'll boot.09:08
rewt_shanonx, do you not havea gui?09:09
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celerexNeither new NOR the old (breezy) is booting09:09
viruspsycode, is your router running a nameserver? if windows wasn't able to use it I guess not. Just put the nameservers you use on your windows box in that file.09:09
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anders__lsuactiafner: yes09:09
videofreakmaihem, hmm make sense in a way... but that will make new applications slow?09:09
celerexthey both stop in the same place.09:09
maihemif apache2 isn't serving web pages for a few seconds, your other programs will get the ram from it (pushing apache2 out to disk until it is needed).09:09
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lsuactiafneranders__ : mplayer -vo help09:09
viruspsycode, one nameserver per line. (and maximum 3 nameservers as far as I remember)09:09
anders__lsuactiafner: tried the help, and xv is listed09:09
gnomefreakcelerex: i recommend reinstalling breezy and waiting til april for dapper09:09
shanonxrewt_ i have gnome installed but cannot get to X server because my ATI display  isnt recognized.... and my onboard LAN card isnt recognized either.09:09
OmniColosit would be nice if there was a version of ubuntu just for old hardware but until then maybe try: http://www.goosee.com/pup09:09
celerexarg, does XGL work in Breezy?09:09
maihemit slows down as you switch, but if you software needs 150MB ram and you only have 50MB, well...09:09
gnomefreakcelerex: nope09:09
lsuactiafneranders__ : ubuntu mplayer packages are broken, mplayerdev will tell you to use the current cvs version instead09:09
viruspsycode, but putting more nameservers in that file won't hurt... it just will only pick the first three entries afaik.09:09
eugmanIs there any good visual bandwidth monitor of each process?09:10
psycodevirus, like "nameserver 192.115.106.11 <\n> nameserver 192.115.106.1209:10
rewt_shanonx, what display  do you have?09:10
videofreaki'm run basic ubuntu09:10
viruspsycode, exactly.09:10
rewt_What card09:10
dtsi've been having a lot of random freezes lately and I have the feeling this is because some files got corrupted when the power went out, is there a way to reinstall all installed packages in the system09:10
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lsuactiafneranders__ : also make sure if you use xv that xorg is using the correct driver for your display card09:10
psycodevirus, thanks i'll try09:10
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celerexJust my bad luck that dapper wont' boot for me?09:10
lsuactiafneranders__ : also try -vo sdl, works best09:10
rewt_ati what09:10
viruspsycode, then try to lookup and/or ping some internet host - should work then. :)09:10
celerexi mean there must be some config file somewhere that isn't loading the modules in proper order09:10
anders__lsuactiafner: then I have to build it myself?09:10
shanonxrewt_: ATI PCI-Express 512MG, Radeon X130009:10
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celerexis there a way to run a mass reconfigure09:10
celerex>?09:10
maihemafk09:10
videofreakthanks09:10
gnomefreakcelerex: its not yet in beta still alot of work being done on it everyone with dapper atm is having issues09:10
anders__lsuactiafner: how do I make sure that xorg uses the correct driver?09:10
lsuactiafneranders__ : also you can add vo="sdl," into .mplayer/config to make it default09:10
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gnomefreakcelerex: not that i am aware of09:11
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anders__lsuactiafner: sdl worked :-)09:11
celerexi figured :) oh well, last question. Sometimes doing an apt-get i'll get an error that tells me the command 'locale' cannot be found09:11
psycodevirus, works, thanks alot! :)09:11
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gnomefreakcelerex: thats  a dappers locales issue thats normal and the first issue dapper had09:12
viruspsycode, np. you're welcome. :)09:12
gnomefreakit has been fixed on the flight 409:12
celerexsuper :) thanks gnome09:12
alejandrohow can i join to a spanish room?09:12
gnomefreakalejandro: /join #ubuntu-es09:12
_jasonalejandro: type: /join #ubuntu-es09:12
!lilo:*! Well, that was refreshing. I guess at this point we should wait to message the guy until he shows up here again. Next time he does (you probably want to spread the word), people on the channel he's on should complain to his AIM address or email address. Apparently he's waiting for sales leads on them and maybe we can get his attention by letting him know his messages are a problem. :)09:12
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lsuactiafneranders__ : xv is faster, but try xvinfo and run lspci to check what display card you have09:13
alejandroyes, but i forget to save it09:13
lsuactiafneranders__ : #mplayer is also usefull...09:13
aliis there any .rm to mp3 converter?09:13
alejandrothank you again09:13
viruslsuactiafner, if the xvideo extension isn't working SDL probably won't work well either. It will fall back to slower outputs so it's always a safe choice, yepp. :)09:13
lsuactiafnerali : mencoder can do it09:13
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rewt_shanonx, I don't know. Sorry. Those are somewhat new and iffy with linux.09:13
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rewt_I just googled it and a lot of poeple are having problems with linux and your card.09:14
[blah] how do I setup my resolution?09:14
anders__virus, lsuactiafner: thx for your help. mplayer works with sdl.09:14
[blah] other than ctrl alt +09:14
shanonxrewt_: how do i uninstall grub from the MBR then? ill just stay with winblows a while longer :(09:14
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rewt_[blah] , go to system>preferences> Screen Resolution09:14
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snoozixrewt_: ? isn't it just configurable with xorg.conf?09:15
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virusanders__, if you find some time after finishing watching the movie you might want to invest some time getting your graphic card working properly.09:15
anders__lsuactiafner: xvinfo says: no adaptors present..09:15
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[blah] how can I add resolutions?09:15
gnomefreakshanonx: iirc in dos you can run fixmbr and it will erase grub from it09:15
rewt_snoozix, what?09:15
anders__virus: I think I need to do that09:15
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Yorakcan somebody helped me out? I've installed scrot but when I try to take one i get an error message09:16
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gnomefreakshanonx: deleteing grub will not delete ubuntu09:16
snoozixrewt_: how can you configure the screen resolution from a desktop? i thought it was just possible by editing the xorg.conf file directly?09:16
[blah] this is _really_ nice for a linux os!09:16
shanonxgnomefreak: i know, I will just erase grub then clear out that partition for now09:16
rewt_snoozix, did you check system preferences and then screen resolution?09:16
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gnomefreakubotu tell snoozix about fixres09:16
Flight3Excuse me folks, is there a later kernel than 2.6.15-12-386 in dapper?09:17
hermes7Hi guys..i have just started with linux (ubuntu).09:17
hermes7I am trying to let mp3's working.09:17
hermes7On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats they say that09:17
hermes7I have only to install gstreamer0.8-mad with Synaptic.09:17
hermes7If I do that I get this error:09:17
hermes7"gstreamer0.8-mad:09:17
gnomefreak2.6.15.1509:17
hermes7 Vereisten: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable09:17
hermes7 Vereisten: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable"09:17
hermes7I can't find anything about this problem.09:17
hermes7Thanks09:17
_jasonubotu: tell hermes7 about enter09:17
gnomefreaksorry its -1509:17
Flight3gnomefreak, can I download this directly?09:17
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inyHola09:17
kemikhermes7: dont paste in here09:17
virushermes: please don't post over multiple lines.09:17
inyalguien me ayuda?09:17
gnomefreakFlight3: yes09:17
gnomefreak!daily09:17
ubotugnomefreak: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:17
kemikhermes7: use pastebin for that09:17
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YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.09:17
iny#guadalinex09:17
gnomefreakubotu tell Flight3 about dailybuild09:17
wastreliny:  #ubuntu-es09:18
[blah] my refresh rate is really low and the screen isn't centered how do I rectify this (without being able to change my monitor settings due to it being on a KVM switch)09:18
snoozixgnomefreak: thanks. :)09:18
_jasonhermes7: put /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu-nl.org please09:18
gnomefreaksnoozix: yw09:18
snoozixgnomefreak: but it doesn't really answer my question09:18
snoozixgnomefreak: but it's allright09:18
maihemHow do I get japanese text input in gedit, firefox, xchat-gnome etc. The input method menu seems to have everything except kana/kanji :/ I've installed japanese support and scim, but to no avail.09:19
[blah] [blah] 09:19
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.09:19
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hermes7nobody? :)09:19
gnomefreaksnoozix: you asked how to fix your resolution right?09:19
_jasonhermes7: put /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu-nl.org please09:19
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snoozixgnomefreak: no. i asked if there is another way than editing xorg.conf.09:19
pawsilverhi there09:19
snoozixgnomefreak: allright, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would do something comparable.09:20
[blah] [blah] 09:20
YorakAnybody?09:20
schmityhey09:20
gnomefreaksnoozix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:20
schmityhey09:20
schmityhey09:20
BergcubeI am frustrated.  I've installed Dapper Drake Flight 3, and cannot come to terms with the new layout and general interface of Xchat. I wish I could get it back like the way it was in 5.10. Is that possible? (And if so, what do I need to do?)09:20
maihemsnoozix: is `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` what you're looking for?09:20
snoozixgnomefreak: yes, that edits xorg.conf, too.09:20
snoozixmaihem: no.09:20
snoozixmaihem: i KNOW how to do it my way.09:20
gnomefreakBergcube: thats not xchat thats gnome-xchat09:20
hermes7sorry..tnx09:20
snoozixmaihem: i wanted to know WHICH OTHER WAYS there are :)09:20
maihemsorry, must have missed part of the convo09:20
pawsilverAnyone help me?  Looking for a Lexmark Z25 inkjet driver for edubuntu09:20
gnomefreakBergcube: sudo apt-get install xchat09:20
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[blah] Bergcube, Settings -> Preferences09:20
snoozixmaihem: but thanks :)09:20
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Bergcubegnomefreak: If that held any understandable meaning for me I'd thank you. Even so I bet you mean it well.  Can you please be verbose?09:21
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_jasonubotu: tell pawsilver about print09:21
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gnomefreakBergcube: the xchat that comes with dapper is not the normal xchat its xchat-gnome09:21
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.09:21
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.09:21
Bergcubegnomefreak  Ah.  But I've searched  Synaptic for Xchat.....  Not there.  And Universe is enabled.09:21
gnomefreakBergcube: sudo apt-get install xchat09:21
gnomefreak^^^ its in the main repo09:21
rewt_Yorak does this /blah exist?09:21
wastrelis synaptic case sensitive?09:22
wastrelxchat09:22
snoozixgnomefreak: where's the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome?09:22
schmityhey09:22
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gnomefreaksnoozix: the lay out the look the feel09:22
Yorakwhat is /blah?09:22
rewt_Yorak, you tell me you said it09:22
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snoozixgnomefreak: ah09:22
rewt_Where it's saving.09:22
rewt_Does this place exist?09:22
Yorakohh no09:22
snoozixgnomefreak: but shift-enter still doesn't work in one of them?09:22
rewt_Try saving it to your desktop or home09:22
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BergcubeI'll piss off and search again.  Thanks for your help gnomefreak.  You've explained what I need.09:22
Yorakit's just short for my directory09:22
snoozixgnomefreak: to send a line?09:22
Yorakand yes09:22
bikinianyone feel like helping me install enlightenment?09:22
anders__has anyone here got an Inspiron laptop running Ubuntu?09:22
Yorakit does exist09:22
gnomefreaksnoozix: shift and enter?09:22
_jasonanders__: yes09:23
Yoraki created a folder called Scrots in /home/yorak/09:23
gnomefreaksnoozix: i dont havea clue what shift-enter does09:23
anders___jason: with an ATI card?09:23
rewt_anders__, i have09:23
snoozixgnomefreak: try ending a line with "?" and pressing enter -> when you still hold down the left shift key e.g. it won't be send.09:23
_jasonanders__: nope, nvidia09:23
Yorakand I type scrot -c ~/Scrots09:23
rewt_anders__, I have with an ari card09:23
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_jasonubotu: tell Yorak about enter09:23
anders__rewt_: what driver do you use?09:23
rewt_*ati09:23
rewt_What card?09:23
ablomenbikini, sudo apt-get enlightenment09:23
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gnomefreaksnoozix: i never had a problem endding with a ? and just hitting enter09:23
rewt_anders__, I didn't need any drivers.09:24
anders__rewt_: it's a 6000, and I think it is an X300 card09:24
pawsilverthanx guys09:24
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rewt_what card is it anders__09:24
snoozixgnomefreak: i sometimes just still hold down the left shift key.09:24
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bikiniablomen, what directory should i be in? home?09:24
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rewt_try tuning off acceleration09:24
rewt_in xorg.conf09:24
YorakSo does anybody have a clue how to fix my scrot problem?09:24
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ablomenbikini: doesnt mather, just open a terminal and type what i just typed09:24
rewt_go down to your card and right after it add         option     "noaccel"09:25
anders__rewt_: I think it is Radeon X30009:25
snoozixgnomefreak: irssi is great.09:25
LabThugI have a file with a list of files (one per line).  I want to mv those files to another directory (and leave the other files in the directory alone), anyone know how to do that?   mv --target-directory=/new/path `cat file`    maybe ????09:25
gnomefreaki love it :)09:25
snoozixgnomefreak: i'm using it since many years :)09:25
rewt_yea turn accel off and see what that does09:25
gnomefreaki started maybe a month or so ago09:25
snoozixgnomefreak: but i'm using xchat as a secondary client for freenode09:25
snoozixgnomefreak: my primary just runs in ircnet.09:25
anders__rewt_: It _is_ Radeon X30009:25
gnomefreaksnoozix: my secondary is bitchx09:25
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zumoanyone can tell me how i update firefox 1.07 to 1.5.01 ?09:25
rewt_anders__, do what I said09:25
gnomefreakubotu tell zumo about ff1.509:26
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snoozixgnomefreak: i used bitchx for years, but it's no real alternative if you know irssi imo.09:26
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bikinii get an error that says "E: invalid operation enlightenment"09:26
gnomefreakzumo: read the pm ubotu sent you09:26
anders__rewt_: ehh.. what did you say?09:26
rewt_go down to your card and right after it add         option     "noaccel"09:26
anders__ahh09:26
anders__sorry09:26
Mosi_!tell mosi_ about ff1.509:26
rewt_in xorg.conf09:26
_jasonLabThug: sounds reasonable09:26
snoozixbikini: then you do something definitely wrong.09:26
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anders__saw it now :-)09:26
rewt_:)09:26
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[blah] wow! this thing is great09:26
bikinisnoozix, like what? i just installed 5.10 today09:26
ablomenyea irssi-text is cool, together with screen you can just leave it on and always connect to it wherever you are09:26
LabThug_jason: cool,  is there a "better" way to do it?09:26
rewt_blah fix it?09:27
rewt_what did you end up doing?09:27
[blah] I never expect a linux desktop so smooth09:27
gnomefreakbikini: did you install enlightenment?09:27
snoozixbikini: "apt-get enlightenment" won't work because enlightenment is not a command for apt-get.09:27
Mosi_can anyone help me get my sound up and working?09:27
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shanonxrewt_ and gnomefreak:  Well, I got grub off my MBR, just so you guys know WINXP users have to insert their install disk and restart to run FIXMBR, thank you for all your help, and maybe someday I will be back to Ubuntu after PCIexpress and my NIC is more supported.09:27
snoozix!sound09:27
ubotusound is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary09:27
ablomenbikini: woops sorry "apt-get install enli..."09:27
_jasonLabThug: I don't know of something I would consider ``better''09:27
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gnomefreakbikini: use synaptic to grab enlightenment09:27
Mosi_snoozix: thanks09:27
[blah] rewt_ not really. But I'm okay now.  At 1024x768 it looks good so I'm going to leave it.09:27
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LabThug_jason: no problem.  I'll give this a shot09:28
rewt_shanonx, no probelm :) Glad you got it fixed and sorry you couldnt stick with ubuntu09:28
[blah] refresh rate is low though (60)09:28
rewt_[blah] , alright09:28
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rewt_[blah] , mine too. it's at 59 I don't know how to resolve that issue?09:28
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stephansdoes anyone know how to change the default character encoding in the gnome terminal.09:28
stephans?09:28
dylan_i popped in the Live CD in my computer and I only get 800x600 resolution....on Windows I could get 1024x768....is this because the live cd has less drivers, or do i just need to do a xserver-xorg configure?09:28
bikiniablomen, i just installed it.. now what?09:29
[blah] It doesn't look that bad.  Im not going to worry about it for now.09:29
erez!tell erez about ff1.509:29
gnomefreakstephans: edit>current profile09:29
bikiniupdate gdm?09:29
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[blah] How do I install new software (opera to be specific) is there a package manager anywhere?09:29
stephansok09:29
[blah] this thing was easier to install then windows!09:29
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anders__rewt_: added the option. do I have to boot, or can I restart X?09:29
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.09:29
timfrost!opera09:29
ubotuopera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser09:29
gnomefreakbikini: log out and on the log in page click sessiond and enlightenment will be there09:29
LabThug[blah] : look for Synaptic under System->Administration09:29
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LabThugHowever, you need to read that wiki as Opera needs some tweaking to be installed09:30
[blah] although it did take a while at the end and the live disc didn't work09:30
snoozix[blah] : ftp://netmirror.org/opera/linux/852/final/en/i386/shared/opera_8.52-20060201.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb09:30
VR_how would i check which kernel version i am using?09:30
dylan_can anybody help me?09:30
snoozix[blah] : but maybe you want to use static09:30
_jasonVR_: uname -r09:30
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LabThugsnoozix: 9.0 TP 2 is out now09:30
snoozixLabThug: 9.0 of what?09:30
VR_thanks _jason09:30
LabThugsnoozix: Opera09:30
snoozixoh09:31
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rewt_[blah] , I know how to edit your refresh rate09:31
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rewt_try this09:31
LabThugsnoozix: http://labs.opera.com09:31
GuillaumeIs it possible that the ntp server of ubuntu.org come busy sometimes ?09:31
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tiglionabbitI would like to share something09:31
bikinienlightenment wasn't an option in the session box09:31
rewt_[blah] ,09:31
rewt_Open xorg.conf and add this line to section "device":09:31
rewt_Option "IgnoreEDID" "on"09:31
rewt_Save09:31
rewt_Restart the xserver, open System->Preferences->Screen Resolution, change the refresh rate.09:31
andyrossGuillaume: use pool.ntp.org -- better than any single service.09:31
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Guillaumethx andyross09:32
[blah] rewt_ how?09:32
stephansgnomefreak, there is no option for chartacter encoding and you can not delete the utf8 one...09:32
rewt_[blah] , how what?09:32
wastrelrefresh rate eh.  mine says 50hz09:32
tiglionabbitmy computer was going very very slow when I came back to it today.  So I decided to run "top".  The top line consistently displayed java-vm as taking 80% cpu to do nothing09:32
rewt_wastrel, that's low09:32
VR_this is kinda weird. uname -v gives the date, and -r gives the version, even though in the description for the -v attribute it says, "print the kernel version"09:32
stephansgnomefreak, under set character encoding option under terminal09:32
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.09:32
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wastrelrewt_:  looks fine to me?  heh i never think about these things09:32
wastrelrewt_:  it's a LCD09:33
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[blah] rewt_ [blah] , I know how to edit your refresh rate09:33
MetaMorfoziShi all09:33
gnomefreakstephans: yeah thats where it is :( sorry i was thinking of something else09:33
bikiniablomen, enlightenment didn't come up in the sessions box.. is there something else i have to do?/09:33
rewt_wastrel, mine says the same as yours and it's lcd09:33
MetaMorfoziSat configure have this error:09:33
MetaMorfoziSchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!09:33
rewt_but that's low09:33
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Guillaumeandyross: if i change the address right now, what is the command to reload the ntp service ?09:33
gnomefreakstephans: but it looks like you will have to add or remove ones you want to use09:33
MetaMorfoziSi have libqt4-core09:33
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Guillaumeandyross: without havin to reboot09:33
ablomenbikini: are you shure it installed right?09:33
rewt_[blah] , scroll up i told you the steps how to09:33
MetaMorfoziSi'm don1t understand why it needs qt...09:33
zumodo anyone know why firefox cant be updated via apt-get? cant be arsed going through that guide :S09:33
MetaMorfoziSplease help me09:33
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.09:33
rewt_about editing xorg09:33
gnomefreakzumo: it cant be09:34
andyross"/etc/init.d/ntpd restart" should work.  There's a wrapper for that, but I don't remember it.09:34
bikiniablomen, i did "sudo apt-get install enlightenment" and it finished.09:34
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Guillaumethx andy!09:34
zumoheap of bollocks :(09:34
mzuverinkanyone else having failure message during boot up when syncing time to ntp.ubuntu.org?09:34
ablomenbikini: ok that should have worked.. whitch version of ubuntu are you using?09:34
bikini5.1009:34
timfrostYorak, is there an existing *directory* named /home/yorak/blah?09:34
gnomefreakzumo: too many things depends on 1.0.7 so you would have to run them side by side09:35
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[blah] rewt_ where do I add that (what section)09:35
dylan_i popped in the Live CD in my computer and I only get 800x600 resolution....on Windows I could get 1024x768....is this because the live cd has less drivers, or do i just need to do a xserver-xorg configure?09:35
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ablomenbikini: on a normal x86 pc?09:35
bikiniamd6409:35
zumomzuverink: i have that to09:35
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lsuactiafnerdylan_ : press control alt plus and minus09:35
eugmanHey is there a way tohave my compter log into my account automatically after a time but have the screen be locked?09:35
dylan_lsuactiafner, thanks....i hope that works.09:35
mzuverinkzumo: do you have ntp installed, if yes did you notice that the ubuntu server is no longer listed?09:35
gnomefreakdylan_: under system>prefferences it does say screen resolution?09:35
lsuactiafnerdylan_ : also a live cd uses default drivers to work on almost any pc, an install would chose optimal drivers for your pc09:36
ablomenbikini: ok.. well it worked for me on a x86 and i have no idea why it doesnt work, you could try a reboot just for the sake of it..09:36
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.09:36
YorakI have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.09:36
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bikinii'll try that.09:36
dylan_lsuactiafner, i normally have it at 1024x768 tho....09:36
ablomenbikini: ok good luck09:36
_jasonYorak: there is no need to repeat your question like that09:36
zumomzuverink: i havent checked. the syncronisation never bothered me09:36
dylan_lsuactiafner, it only let me do 800x60009:36
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_jasonYorak: I know you've been asking for a while, no one probably knows the answer.  Try posting at ubuntuforums.org or searching wiki.ubuntu.com09:36
YorakNobody is acknowledging that I'm asking.09:37
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lsuactiafnerdylan_ : install ubuntu and quit screwing around with a livecd09:37
YorakA simple "I don't know Yorak" would be sufficient.09:37
dylan_lsuactiafner, that should work, right?09:37
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[blah] umm I can't su.  Is there a default su password?09:37
gnomefreak[blah] : sudo not su09:37
maciej__sudo -s -H09:37
dylan_[blah] , do sudo passwd root, sometimes helps09:37
_jasonYorak: do you think it's feasible to have 600 people respond ``I don't know'' to every question?09:37
agandahello, has anybody using ubuntu on a 486 dx4 100 mhz??09:37
gnomefreak[blah] : dont do that09:38
dylan_lsuactiafner, can you guarantee me that it will work as you say it will by simply installing it?09:38
eugmanaganda whats the memory?09:38
gnomefreakthere is a reason why su is disabled09:38
rewt_[blah] , under your card09:38
zumoaganda: i tried on a 66 mhx :P09:38
mzuverinkis there gnome 2.14 repos's somewhere?09:38
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gnomefreakmzuverink: no09:38
agandazumo: and its ok?09:38
gnomefreak2.14 isnt out yet09:38
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[blah] dylan_, gnomefreak its prompting me for a password that i don't have09:39
zumoaganda: its long time ago. seemed fine. a bit slow tho09:39
gnomefreak[blah] : your user password09:39
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gnomefreakubotu tell [blah]  about rootsudo09:39
gnomefreakubotu thanks09:39
ubotugern geschehen, gnomefreak09:39
mzuverinkgnomefreak: whats the current version in ubuntu?09:39
gnomefreak5.1009:39
lsuactiafnerare nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?09:39
gnomefreakcurrent stable version09:39
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eugmanAnyone know how to monitor the bandwidth usages of the different apps?09:39
anders__my lspci says "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 546009:40
anders__" is this bad?09:40
[blah] Im getting subo not found now09:40
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[blah] err sudo09:40
_jason[blah] : sudo not subo09:40
agandazumo: thanks i'm glade to know that. and which version was runningon?09:40
gnomefreakeugman: there are a few different ones open synaptic and search for bandwidth should pull them up09:40
mzuverinkgnomefreak: gnome is 2.12.1? is there a more current version?09:40
OmegaAlphai see someone is also having trouble with their ati card09:40
gnomefreakmzuverink: not for 5.1009:40
lsuactiafneranders__ : run update-pciids09:41
zumoi dont remember. i used kernel 2.4 i think, and no gui09:41
mzuverinkgnomefreak:thanks09:41
lsuactiafnerand then lspci again09:41
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lsuactiafneranders__ : and that output means you got new hardware not in your old database update-pciids will upgrade for you09:41
agandazumo: thanks again09:42
OmegaAlphahow do i find out what exact model my video card is so i can search ATI's website for support09:42
gnomefreakOmegaAlpha: lspci09:42
rewt_lspci09:42
OmegaAlphaso far i know mine is ATI Radeon mobility  U1 with the lspci command09:42
[blah] sudo: root: command not found09:42
rewt_if it says unknown do   'sudo update-pciids'09:42
gnomefreak[blah] : no root09:42
OmegaAlphain xorg.cong under its device section it says Identifier"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 320M (RS200 IGP)09:42
rewt_[blah] , sudo is root lol......09:43
gnomefreak[blah] : sudo than the command whatever it is you are trying to run09:43
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[blah] oh i get it.09:43
gunslingerhi guys09:43
rewt_[blah] , okay.09:43
[blah] A little aqward, but I get it09:43
OmegaAlphaso what does the 320M mean and the RS200 IGP09:43
rewt_Hi gunslinger09:43
rewt_that's your card type OmegaAlpha09:43
eugmangnomefreak: The descirptions are a bit much to wade trhough. Do you know of a graphical one that can show different apps or at least ports?09:43
gnomefreakOmegaAlpha: i heard that update-pciids will update the info that lspci putsout09:44
OmegaAlphayeah i just read that on linuxforum.org09:44
gnomefreakeugman: not off hand i dont need them09:44
gunslingeri recently compiled and successfully installed the vanilla kernel with ck patchset. however it said my stack buffers are 4k and i need to change them to 8k, im having memory issues and program crashes, any idea how i can change the stack sizes?09:44
anders__lsuactiafner: thanks. does this change the way things work, or does it just recognize the card?09:44
OmegaAlphawould steps to solve this prob in Suse also work in Ubuntu/Debian09:45
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gnomefreakOmegaAlpha: i dont think so09:45
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nico_behi09:45
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[blah] rewt_, do I restart once I do that?09:45
gnomefreakok time for me to get some work done by all09:46
gunslingerbye man09:46
[blah] I also changed the refresh rate in my xorg.org09:46
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OmegaAlpharewt_, that reason i was askign is because when i do a search in ATI's site -Radeon Mobility there are different kinds09:46
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Mosi_anyone know why, when i install Firefox 1.5 and try to run it, i get the error '/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 166: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file'?09:46
OmegaAlphaso then i added U1 to it and it returns no results09:46
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regeyad:)09:47
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boscohow do i get mplayer or ogle working in ubuntu correctly09:47
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CrAzYoNiHow can I install a new font (Hebrew font) into the Ubuntu 5.10 system?09:47
regeyabosco: that depends on what you mean by "working in ubuntu correctly"09:47
_jasonCrAzYoNi: is it a true type font?09:47
adam_hello i'm trying to get gcc to work; this is the first time i've used ubuntu; i've searched for gcc and can see folder whch have it in however typing gcc i get an error no susch command found . can anyone help09:48
nico_beanyone knows which soft i can use to transform a bunch of FLAC files into a single big ogg one (without gaps) so I can play it gapless on a non-gapless player?09:48
_jasonMosi_: did you follow the wiki?09:48
CrAzYoNiI just copied it from my Winbloz box, Arial true type font :)09:48
boscoregeya,  how do i install it via apt-get09:48
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_jasonCrAzYoNi: put it in ~/.fonts09:48
Mosi__jason: i did09:48
_jasonMosi_: that's a really weird error09:49
regeyabosco: all I mean is that you need to be more specific about your problem09:49
lsuactiafneranders__ : just recognises the card09:49
Mosi__jason: yeah it is, and now i have no browser :(09:49
motionblurhi people, i'm running automatix right, and it's taking a loooot of time... just curious how long approximately the whole install process takes on a 900mhz athlon09:49
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lsuactiafnerwhat card do you have?09:49
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_jasonMosi_: it ahppens when you do '/opt/firefox/firefox' too?09:49
Mosi__jason: i didn't get the error until after i dpgk-diverted all my links and scripts and stuff09:49
CrAzYoNithank you :)09:49
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lsuactiafnermotionblur : will be quick enoguh not to be painfull, i did it on a duron 950 and didnt notice it being slow09:50
Mosi__jason: yeah09:50
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regeyaso very frustrating when you point out to someone that they need to be specific and then they clam up...I bet the guy's running around to other channels/servers saying "how do I get ogle and mplayer working correctly" *sigh*09:50
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motionblurhere it's taking more than 1,5 hour09:50
_jasonMosi_: you sure the tar.gz downloaded completely?09:50
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MwongoziGood afternoon all. I have what I hope isn't a stupid question.09:51
lsuactiafnerubuntu mplayer package sucks, it shouldnt be part of ubuntu, giving ubuntu and mplayer a bad name09:51
Mosi_jason: not entirely sure, but i don't have any reason to think i didn't09:51
MwongoziCan I change the resolution the grub boot menu is displayed in? I want to connect my PC to my HDTV, but the TV won't display the boot menu because the resolution is too low...09:51
Mosi_jason: should i download it agian and unzip it to /opt?09:51
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motionbluri'm starting to think that something went wrong maybe... the install bar isn't a real progress bar so I don't know what to do09:51
CrAzYoNiI don't have ~/.fonts folder :\09:52
boscoregeya,  here is the link  http://pastebin.com/56013609:52
_jasonMosi_: it's worth a try, but just extract it to a folder in your home directory.  Like maybe ~/firefoxtemp, and then run ~/firefoxtemp/firefox to see if it throws the error.  If it doesn't, then do the wiki again with the new download09:52
Mosi__jason: thanks09:52
_jasonCrAzYoNi: mkdir ~/.fonts09:52
adam_hi can anyone help me getting gcc to work, is it pre installed or do i need to get it myself?09:52
_jasonadam_: you need to install the build-essential package09:53
boscoadam_,  synaptic09:53
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CrAzYoNikk09:53
jrattner1How can I convert an openoffice (.odt) to microsoft word?09:53
cafuegojrattner1: Save as Word from within OpenOffice.09:54
_jasonjrattner1: file > save as> choose microsoft word09:54
jrattner1thank you09:54
adam_jason: can u get that package from the add applications menu?09:54
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setuidHow does one build a .deb from a compiled source tree? There's some fu for it... debian-builder?09:54
CryptidIs there any external drivers to be loaded so that my onboard graphics will be properly utilised by Linux i have a Interl 915GAV mobo and in Windows i had to load the GMA 900(Graphic media accelerator 900) drivers seperatly.I feel my Onboard graphics are not being utilised properly(the visuals in totem are laggy and very bad) so please help me09:54
_jasonadam_: I don't know if it is there, it is definitely in synaptic though09:54
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charliebash: gcc: command not found09:54
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cafuegosetuid: The easiest way is 'checkinstall'09:54
setuidCryptid: Probably unsupported09:54
charlieWhat package do I need to fix this?09:54
_jasoncharlie: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:54
charlieta09:54
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adam_jason: neebe question i sopose but how do i access synaptic - i've been using ubuntu for about an hour now09:55
_jasonubotu: tell adam_ about synaptic09:55
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boscoregeya,  here is the link to my problem http://pastebin.com/56013609:55
Cryptidsetuid, probably unsupported?? now what do i do,,, i've intel posters and banners saying that they support Linux so y arnt the onboard graphics supported properly???09:56
MrFreeBirdhi guys. how can I create mp3 files from audio cd?09:56
bikiniablomen: no such luck with that reboot09:56
hatake_kakashiMrFreeBird: grip09:56
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boscohow do i apt-get mplayer09:56
setuidCryptid: Is *THAT* model of card supported by Intel's drivers?09:56
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mzuverinkI have spamassassin installed and do not seem to be connecting to any servers, usually spamassassin has a host file in the .spamassassin directory in user home.  Is there anything I need to do to get spamassassin funning, specificall spamd?09:56
hatake_kakashi!tell bosco about mplayer09:57
_jasonubotu: tell bosco about mplayer09:57
_jasonuh oh getting slow09:57
hatake_kakashiheh09:57
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bikinidoes anyone know how to install enlightenment on 5.10, amd64?09:57
MrFreeBirdcdda2mp3 does work? I would like to make it from a terminal09:57
boscohow do i apt-get mplayer09:57
mongerapt-get install mplayer ;)09:58
_jasonbosco: check out your private messages from ubotu09:58
xnullneed to enable the multivers rep.09:58
[blah] rewt_ it works now with a better refresh09:58
robinl1shamper09:58
perduGNUPG?09:58
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Cryptidsetuid, hmm yes i got all the drivers on a CD with the mobo09:58
MrFreeBirdI would like to create mp3 files using console command09:59
gunslingeranyone know how i can change the kernel buffer stack size from 4k to 8k?09:59
rewt_[blah09:59
rewt_what?09:59
robinl1Shamper means: OMFGIHAVENONSENSETHISISNONSENSEIHAVENOTHINGTOTELLOMFGTHISROXJ0000RBIGAZZLOLOMFGBBQ!!!THEBBQHASARRIVEDOMFGLOL09:59
MrFreeBirdhatake_kakashi, did you know how can I do it via console?09:59
rewt_my thing I told you to do worked?09:59
setuidCryptid: Oh, so the motherboard came with a CD that included Linux drivers?09:59
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setuidgunslinger: why would you want to?09:59
hatake_kakashiMrFreeBird: probably with mplayer10:00
rewt_[blah] , the thing I told you to do worked?10:00
Cryptidsetuid, oh no the mobo came with cd for drivers supporting only Windows not linux10:00
gunslingerbecause after i set up vanilla kernel, it warned me that 4k buffer size plus my drivers were not compatible and i would get crashes10:00
gunslingerand i am10:00
gunslingerim just not sure where to go10:00
setuidCryptid: So download the drivers for it from Intel's website.10:00
setuidYou said Intel supported it.10:00
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[blah] rewt_, yes.  I also edited the refresh rate in xorg.conf10:01
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rewt_can you now edit refresh rate in your system setting?10:01
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rewt_under screen resolutions10:02
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noteventime'ello10:02
rewt_what did you set your refresh rate to?10:02
darkfusionhello guys10:02
[blah] why is mysql 4 the latest ver in the package manager?  I just did edit -> reload pkg info and it is the same10:02
[blah] rewt_,  I set it to 50 - 80  (verticle)10:02
darkfusioni'm having a problem burning dvds10:02
noteventimeIs there a repositry that has the newest version of the mesa libraries10:02
[blah] I left the horizontal10:02
xualowhats better mplayer of xine?10:02
rewt_Still got the steps written down? I was just guessing?10:02
setuidgunslinger: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-22581.html10:02
rewt_im going to do it now :-P10:02
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_jasonxualo: it's the one you like, try them both10:03
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darkfusionboth k3b and gnomebaker dont wanna burn dvds , I keep getting errors10:03
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[blah] rewt_, hold on I'll pastebin what I have10:03
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rewt_k10:03
gunslingersetuid: thanks ill try it out10:03
setuidgunslinger: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0202.1/0160.html10:03
setuidgunslinger: You'll get a 5% performance drop for using 8k stacks though10:04
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gunslingerok i understand10:04
gunslingerthanks for the info10:04
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rewt_[blah] , id you do this , Option "IgnoreEDID" "on"10:04
darkfusioncan anybody help me ?10:04
rewt_darkfusion, with?10:05
[blah] rewt_,  http://pastebin.com/56016110:05
darkfusioni cant seem to burn dvds10:05
[blah] I don't know what the IgnoreEDID is but I did it10:05
rewt_[blah] , can you go into screen resolution settions and change your refresh rate?10:05
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setuiddarkfusion: growisofs10:06
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darkfusioni need to make data dvds10:06
noteventimePlease is there a debian/(k)ubuntu repositry with the newest mesa?10:06
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setuiddarkfusion: man growisofs10:06
[blah] rewt_, yes, just make sure you put in something your monitor supports10:06
[blah] Most tubes support 50 - 80 but if you are not sure check the sticker on the back of your monitor or your manufaturs website10:07
rewt_what size monitor you got?10:07
[blah] 17" AOC10:07
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rewt_what should i put mine at as a widescreen 15"10:07
[blah] what type of monitor is it?10:08
rewt_I dunno? laptop here10:08
[blah] Oh, LCD.10:08
[blah] hrmm.. What type of laptop?   (make model)10:08
wastrellcd babby10:08
xualocan you run ubuntu 32-bit depth colour?10:08
rewt_Compaq Presario V200010:08
[blah] glass is better wastrel10:08
[blah] Lets see what google says10:09
wastrelblah there's glass in a LCD10:09
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rewt_wast how's your refresh rate going?10:09
rewt_mine's slow10:09
rewt_>.<10:09
wastrelrewt_:  i'm not messing with it.10:09
wastrelrewt_:  the display looks fine to me....10:09
rewt_lol and your refresh?10:10
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xualoanyone?10:10
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MonoNoSaintnight10:10
wastrelrewt_:  the gnome screen resolution prefs says 5010:10
MonoNoSainthey, I've heard about compiz and xgl on dapper repositories already...10:10
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MonoNoSaint... anyone can confirm that?10:10
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wastrel!xgl10:11
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:11
eobanbxualo, i think you mean 24-bit10:11
[blah] rewt_, does it say anything on the stick on the bottom of the laptop?10:11
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calamarihi10:11
MonoNoSainthey, and should it work...10:11
MonoNoSaint... without a 3d acceleration card?10:11
rewt_lol nope10:11
MonoNoSaintI have video on-board... :)10:11
xualobut its any possibility to run gnome with 32bit?10:11
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calamarianyone know of a faster way to display remote programs than ssh -X or vnc?  I'm not too worried about quality, just latency.10:12
wickersxualo, 32bit colour depth?10:12
eobanbxualo, you're talking about 24-bit colour, not 32-bit.10:12
[blah] rewt_ are you using a dual boot?10:12
kyoHmm when I type in 'uptime' in bash, it says 3 users. but I'm the only one logged on this computer ... I have two other box that is up and running (windows) so should I be concern?10:12
rewt_yes10:12
[blah] what is your refresh rate in windows?10:12
xualo32bit10:12
MonoNoSaintanyone know if xgl can work without an acceleration card?10:12
wastrelkyo:  do who10:12
rewt_looks around im one user on kyo, whos the other?10:12
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eobanb32-bit colour is really just 24-bit with 8-bit alpha channels.  to sort of answer your question, xualo, yes, you can do 24-bit colour, just like any other OS does 24-bit colour.10:13
wastrelkyo:  every terminal you have open is a user10:13
regeyacalamari: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX?highlight=%28nx%2910:13
kyoHmm I just have one terminal opened10:13
kyook10:13
rewt_kyo, just restart your computer10:13
kyoall three is my name10:13
kyoHmm10:13
rewt_did it to me the other day10:13
rewt_same thing10:13
kyohehe10:13
rewt_said one was on tty210:13
kyoOk, I'll reboot10:13
kyobrb10:13
rewt_k10:13
wastrelkyo:  your x session is one10:13
xualoso theres no much difference with 32bit and 24bit then...10:13
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wastrelkyo:  your terminal is another10:14
calamariregeya: thanks.. will this work with a remote redhat machine?10:14
ndwHey all. I screwed up my courage this afternoon and decided to give the dapper release a whirl. All seems fine to me. One odd bit, on boot (or reboot), /var/run/mysqld is only readable by mysql and root. That's preventing dspam from finding the mysqld.sock to connect to the database. I can fix the permissions by hand (and then things work) but (1) is that bad and (2) can I make it happen automatically if it isn't?10:14
regeyacalamari: beats me!10:14
[blah] can vs swe (womens hockey for gold)10:14
eobanbxualo, correct.10:14
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anders__I have installed the latest ATI drivers on my system, but how on earth do I configure them right?10:14
lakcaj[blah] , Canada will own10:14
calamariregeya: I'll try it then.. should be fun :)10:14
[blah] lakcaj, I know10:14
xualoeobanb xualo, correct.<--- cheers for that info10:15
[blah] Its good that sweden is in, maybe hockey will pick up in eu10:15
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DaSkreec1_jason: That reboot worked10:15
anders__Don't think that my videos look good at all. Looks kinda like they have block-effects...10:15
_jasonDaSkreec1: great10:15
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DaSkreec1_jason: Thanks10:15
[blah] Im watching the can vs fin game now.  Finland is really holding their own.10:15
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nextdo the xorg drivers for the FireGl not work with amd64 ubuntu?10:16
wickersHey, ubuntu follows Gnome devel... but would ubuntu ever take some of the changed novell-gnome code before it get's put into gnome directly?10:16
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wickersNLD10 will be very modded from standard gnome10:17
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nexti'm getting a no sreen found error.... I've installed my video drivers, can anyone help?10:17
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occyboo10:18
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trappistnext: running dapper?10:19
nextnot familiar with dapper10:19
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noteventimedapper rules :)10:19
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nextwhat is dapper?10:20
next!dapper10:20
ubotuhmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.10:20
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Jeriko-morning10:20
noteventime'ello10:20
nextyeah, no i do not have dapper, i am using ubuntu 5.04 amd64/10:20
Half-LeftCan anyone get the nvidia-settings to work in Dapper?10:20
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noteventimecompiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing... This is becauce of "old" mesa, right?10:21
Jeriko-is it true that dapper (or any release) does not ship with mp3 support?10:21
_jasonJeriko-: yes, you can enable it afterwards.  I'll send you a link to read about it10:21
_jasonubotu: tell Jeriko- about restricted10:21
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virogenesisthats correct Jeriko-  ubuntu doesn't ship with mp3 support you have to add it10:21
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kyoWhen I type 'uptime' it shows two users ... one being ':0' <-- thats root right?10:22
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wastreli'm installing tcsh10:22
wastrelkyo:  :0 is you X session10:22
Jeriko-ah i see, its not on the official cds, but in the repositories10:22
wastrelyour10:22
wickerswastrel, bash is your friend :)10:22
wickersI've never liked tcsh10:22
Jeriko-so in general, how stable is dapper right now? is a installation worth it?10:23
nextso my video card worked with x86 debain but i'm having troubles with it and ubuntu amd64. are the drivers not interchangable?10:23
wickersJeriko-, it's worth waiting till the release10:23
anders__is there an ubuntu-ati kind of channel?10:23
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wastrelwickers:  i got used to using bash, but just installed a program that needs csh for its startup script10:23
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kyowastrel, and what is pts/1?10:23
blazHello10:23
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kyohi blaz10:23
wickerswastrel, which program?10:23
wastrelkyo:  your terminal10:23
wastrelwickers:  vmz, molecular modelling10:23
wastreler, vmd10:24
wickerswastrel, I feel that any program that depends on shell past /bin/sh could be done better.10:24
kyoI see10:24
nitroXLhello all .. does anyone know how can i see witch soundcard is located in /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2 and so on ... ?10:24
wastrelwickers:  you're free to take that up with the guys at the theoretical biophysics institute :] 10:24
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wickerswastrel, heh10:25
wastrelwickers:  or i can mail you the script & you can rewrite it for me :] 10:25
wickerswhat in csh does it require?10:25
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nextcan anyone help me with a "no screen found" error? i have my drivers installed.10:27
rewt_got a question10:27
rewt_do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v200010:28
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wastrelwickers:  i don't think it requires any particular feature, it's just written in it... setenv, if then endif, etc10:28
wickersneeja, it means something in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not configured correctly.10:28
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tepahello10:28
wickerserr... not neeja10:28
OmegaAlphaanders__, i just know of #ati10:28
wickersI mean next10:29
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tepaAnyone know if Java works in Ubuntu??10:29
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anders__OmegaAlpha: Just entered the channel :-)10:29
thomerzhi, does anyone know, what keycode i have to insert into my xbindkeysrc for the windowskey?10:29
rewt_do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v200010:29
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kyowhat does the | operator do in bash?10:30
kyonevermind, I found it10:30
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OmegaAlphaanders__, good luck... im trying to get my ATI card workign properly as well10:30
existanceCan VLC play .mkv's ?10:30
briezeHi all10:30
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MullvalenHi10:31
MetaMorfoziSanybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?10:31
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anders__OmegaAlpha: Good luck to you too :-) Have you got xv video output working yet?10:31
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briezeIs there a # us total noobs can go to to ask a question or is this it? :)10:31
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MullvalenCan someone help me with the Ubuntu installation?10:31
eobanbthis is it.10:31
existanceCan VLC play .mkv's ?10:32
rewt_Mullvalen, what abou it?10:32
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[blah] what is a good php edito for ubunto?  (preferably non IDE)10:32
eobanbexistance, i believe so.10:32
MullvalenIm worried that i might delete all data i want to keep10:32
DArtagnanHi peeps10:32
eobanbbrieze, ask away10:32
existanceeobanb, I'm trying to play one and it's not working.  Any idea where I could get the codec?10:32
briezeI've installed 5.10 last night and updated everything as suggested, but libpoppler don't want to10:32
eobanbMullvalen, can you be more specific10:32
briezeI was busy , soz10:33
Terminus[blah] : vim! :)10:33
eobanbexistance, does it play in totem-xine?10:33
MullvalenHehe, ok. I deleted the partion where i kept my windows...10:33
[blah] Terminus, haha  I can see me writting 1000 lines of code in vim10:33
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Mullvalenand partioned the free space automatically10:33
MetaMorfoziSanybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?10:33
[blah] wait, vim, not vi10:33
Terminus[blah] : well, it's better than vi. :)10:33
existanceeobanb, yes, but the subtitles are missing :/10:33
[blah] its the same thing isnt it?10:34
eobanbcan't totem load subtitles?10:34
DArtagnandoes anyone know of a Remote Desktop Client for Windoze  that I can use to access my Ubuntu system?10:34
wickers[blah] , most distros don't even have vi, it's just a simlink to vim10:34
eobanbDArtagnan, sure, any VNC client will do nicely.10:34
Mullvalenbut then the mark (smiley) if i want to keep that partion something dissapeared in the partion i want to keep10:34
rewt_no10:34
existanceeobanb, dunno10:34
DArtagnanany suggestion?10:34
peter__cannot use my HP Officejet G85, I'm really desperate10:34
Terminus[blah] : well, there's nvi that's supposed to be almost like the original vi. vim on the other hand is vi improved. :)10:34
eobanbDArtagnan, you could try RealVNC or TightVNC10:35
[blah] is there a way to have my pack manage NOT show KDE packages?10:35
rewt_Tight VNC should dothe trick10:35
[blah] I don't want a vi clone, I hate vi.10:35
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[blah] I use emeditor in windows10:35
rewt_[blah] , use nano?10:35
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rewt_or gedit10:35
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DArtagnankewl, thnx will give it a go. l8rs10:35
eobanbhe's looking for a command-line text editor?10:35
[blah] rewt_, nano is for terminal.  I want something for X10:35
ubuntuhi all10:36
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[blah] no eobanb something to code php in10:36
Terminuseobanb: he wants an editor for php that's not an IDE.10:36
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Terminus[blah] : there's emacs. :)10:36
[blah] hi ubuntu10:36
agandatotem doesn't work to me, why something about codecs? but how?10:36
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ubuntuhi [blah] 10:36
_jasonaganda: by doesn't work do you mena just for some files?10:36
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ubuntuI'm a noob and need some help with a grub error on a dual boot: win2k pro & ubuntu 5.0410:36
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briezeAnyone here know how to get past them annoying 404 errors when you are trying to upgrade libpoppler0c2?10:36
nextwickers, what what could i be looking to fix in Xorg.conf if i get the "no screen found" or is that somthing too broad to know10:36
blisshello all10:36
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briezelo bliss10:37
eobanb[blah] , anything wrong with gedit?10:37
blissbrieze hello10:37
MetaMorfoziSanybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?10:37
wickersnext, it could be a few things... manily display settings, video driver settings, modes... etc...10:37
wickersnext, there's a lot to consider.10:37
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[blah] eobanb, never tried it.  Does it colour encode php?10:37
wastrelapt-cache search php | grep editor10:37
wickersnext, usually I find out what's up by reading the X server's log10:37
nextyeah, figured it was something i would need tofigure myself.10:37
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wastrelgedit is the "notepad" of gnome10:37
eobanbyou mean syntax highlighting? i dont think so...10:38
existancecan anyone recommend a video player that can handle .mkv?10:38
agandait says this:"10:38
agandaThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins10:38
KyralVLC10:38
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nextok, can it have anything to do with me using the amd64 and not x86?10:38
blissnewbie question what does the  command ps aux do10:38
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eobanbbliss, it lists all running processes.10:38
wickersnext, read /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:38
rewt_anyone here play yahoo games in ubuntu? says i need java but how do i get it10:38
wastrelbliss:  shows you info on the running processes10:38
TiNePaShi10:38
wickersnext, it will be a bit more detailed then 'no screen found'10:38
TiNePaSI don't compile a kenrel module10:38
nextsure... one last thing, is there a way to use irc via command line?10:39
kyoHmm I forgot how to move files again. Is it "mv *.jpg /pictures"?10:39
wickersnext, look for the lines with EE prepended to them, they are error lines.10:39
wickersnext yes, irssi10:39
_jasonaganda: what type of file is it?  have you installed totem-xine?  have you installed the w32codecs?10:39
existanceKyral, VLC won't play it :/10:39
blisseobanb wasttreltheks10:39
ubuntuanyone know how to fix an "error 18" in grub on a dual boot?10:39
wickersnext, #sudo apt-get install irssi10:39
nextok thanks a lot....10:39
wastrelkyo:  that's right but i don't think your pictures directory is in /10:39
next!irssi10:39
ubotuirssi is, like, http://f0rked.com/core/irssi10:39
Kyralexistance: oh you need something like libmatroska10:39
bliss"wastrel10:39
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kyoHmm ok10:40
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SuperNovahi!10:40
wickersirssi + screen == love10:40
next!screen10:40
ubotuI heard screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/10:40
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blissdoes ps aux give a set of numerical numbers associated with processes10:40
virogenesisxgl + compiz = love :D10:40
wastreli used to use screen before there were tabbed terminal emulators10:40
SuperNovahave a question... is there any way to se what licens a software is released under when searching for it in synaptic 7apt-get?10:40
kyowastrel, its still not working. So, "mv *.jpg /home/kyo/pictures"?10:40
existancekyral, I got libmatroska-dev, what else do i need to do?10:41
wastrelkyo:  that looks right10:41
Kyralexistance: just libmatroska :D10:41
existanceKyral, but how do I get VLC to use it10:41
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Kyralexistance: it should pick it up automagically10:42
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blissso for example if you want to kill a process you would do something like -345 kill10:42
kyo_whee, irssi, lol10:42
wastrelkyo:  it's case-sensitive10:42
existanceKyral, err... the video still won't play :/10:42
kyo_I see10:42
existanceKyral, says unknown matroska header..10:42
Kyralexistance: Ehh....then the file might be bad10:42
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existanceKyral, I can open it in totem-xine, just can't get the subtitles as well :/10:43
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rewt_do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v200010:43
kyowastrel, ah ok I got it. I typed in .jpg instead of .jpeg ... LOL.10:43
wickersI just don't understnd totem, or why people use it that is.10:43
wickersI stick with xine and mplayer10:43
existancewickers, can mplayer play .mkv?10:43
wickersdepends10:43
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ivoris there an option in gnome to display a windows dimensions as it's being resized?10:43
wickersif it has the right codecs, probably10:43
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wickersthe only thing totem does over xine that I know of is crash.10:44
OmegaAlphaanders__, sorry i was afk. xv video output?10:44
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blissdoes ps aux give a set of numerical numbers associated with processes and so for example if you want to kill a process you would do something like -345 kill10:44
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alphaam i in?10:44
eobanbbliss, yes10:45
Half-Leftivor, I dont think so but try in the gconf-editor10:45
alphaoh sweet!10:45
alphawickers... thanks for the irssi tip.10:45
OmegaAlphaanders__, right now im installing the fglrx driver to see if that helps with my probs.10:45
wastrelfglrx eh10:45
alphano need to keep going back to windows now...10:45
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ivorHalf-Left: ok. I'll have a rummage.10:45
rewt_anyone here been succesful with yahoo games needing java?10:45
wickersalpha, you were going back to windows for irc?10:45
alphayeah.10:45
rewt_alpha ubuntu comes with Xchat10:46
rewt_which is irc10:46
wickersalpha, irssi, bitchx, and a few other CLI irc clients are useable with ubuntu10:46
blisseobanb thanks ==whats to stp the process starting next time you reboot10:46
alphai'm having videocard problems...10:46
b1indi've got a peculiar problem: my Xorg log says direct rendering has been enabled and yet glxinfo disagrees10:46
b1indI feel like I'm missing something somewhere (radeon 9200 w/ radeon driver)10:46
eobanbbliss, can you rephrase the question10:46
ubuntucould someone help me with a grub 'error 18' on a dual boot? I tried to change my bios, but that just made it an 'error 17'10:46
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alphado i need to diconnect to go back to my command line? or can i switch back and forth?10:47
gighenhi10:47
blisseobanb -ok when you kill a process its dead for ever10:47
donzahello10:47
_jasonalpha: use screen10:47
donzajust installed dapper10:47
wastrelalpha:  are you in X windows?10:47
hatake_kakashiIs it possible to make ubuntu use nls_utf8 as default charset rather than nls_iso8859_1 and/or nls_cp437?10:48
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alphawastrel, no.10:48
donzaim lovin' it.. like some slogan would say10:48
wastrelalpha:  you can get to a new terminal with alt-f210:48
alphascreen10:48
alpha?10:48
wickerswith screen?10:48
alphathats a keyboard keyright?10:48
wickersa new window?10:48
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hatake_kakashino10:48
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blisseobanb --what does kill do its stops a process or eliminates it10:48
Xenguy!tell alpha about screen10:49
bla|patrickhi10:49
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_jasonalpha: no it lets you run mutliple programs in one terminal, but you can just use alt+f2 I suppose10:49
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hatake_kakashiscreen is a program, runs it like as if you are on another terminal when you are still on the same one10:49
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Half-LeftAlt f2, it's Ctrl, Alt to switch10:50
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Unityhow do i correct xserver settings, what is the command?10:50
_jasonHalf-Left: not if you are already in one10:50
_jason(both work)10:50
Unitylike i want to set the dpi, monitor size, valid resolutions, etc10:51
h0m35k1ni'm getting a msg "make-kpkg: command not found" - how can I resolve this?10:51
Half-Left_jason, Alt dont work10:51
hatake_kakashiIs it possible to make ubuntu use nls_utf8 as default charset rather than nls_iso8859_1 and/or nls_cp437?10:51
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wastrelalt works fine i just tried it10:51
_jasonHalf-Left: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1 then do alt+f2, should take you to tty210:51
wastrelUnity:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:52
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!lilo:*! services being restarted....apologies for any inconvenience10:52
_jasonh0m35k1n: what are you trying to do?10:52
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Half-Left_jason, yer, it does but only to another not all10:52
john_i am trying to add java support to firefox10:52
h0m35k1nbuild a deb file for a wireless driver10:52
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rewt_do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v200010:53
_jasonHalf-Left: right, it only let's you switch once you are not in X10:53
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ZerO_ohi10:53
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b1indwhere would i get ipw2100 firmware from?10:54
wickers!java10:54
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:54
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john_where is the command line access in ubuntu?10:54
bla|patrickhi10:54
bla|patrickhmmm10:54
bla|patrickhave a problem10:54
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wastreljohn_:  applications>accessories>terminal10:54
soundrayh0m35k1n, what WiFi chipset do you have?10:54
hatake_kakashijohn_: Ctrl+Alt+Fx where x is number 1 to 7, 7 is the Xorg server10:54
wickersjohn, applications > accessories > terminal10:54
h0m35k1nrt6110:54
YaSTPpl I got a graphic card Intel 915GM and Im using i810 driver.. got 1080fps on glxgears and glxinfo shows that direct rendering is enable.. but I cant play video files correct.. it breaks alot... How can I solve this?10:54
bla|patrickif i plugin my asus wlan usb stick os fails booting with ohci_hcd failure10:54
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bla|patrickit asks for different acpi or apic settings :|10:55
john_thanks! i'm sure i'll be back10:55
h0m35k1nit's a ralink one10:55
bla|patrickwhat can i do :|10:55
YaSTI searched everywhere about this.. I even heard about a dri-i915 driver file but its a .rpm I tried converting it with alien and install it but still nothing works10:55
soundrayh0m35k1n, are you following any particular instructions? Web? Readme file?10:55
YaSTpls can someone help me?10:55
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Nogimicsif a download fails with wget in linux can you resume?10:55
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donofrio_thats all....and its more than just samba, they do some parts but I need the other pieces I belive like ldap and kerb5 and such right?10:55
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ZerO_ohow to install the ati (radeon9800pro)-driver under ubuntu? i installed it successfully, but it doesn't seem to work. ...if i type "fglrxconfig" --> "Command not found"10:55
hatake_kakashiNogimics: yes man wget10:55
_jasonubotu: tell h0m35k1n about wireless10:55
h0m35k1nI've tried the ones with the install package from ralink but they don't work properly10:56
donofrio_need to be able to rid myself of microsoft on the backend10:56
_jasonh0m35k1n: I have no experience with that but try to read the page ubotu sent you in a private message10:56
donofrio_how do I setup a box to be an active directory replica10:56
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hatake_kakashiZerO_o: I presume you did not follow the guide from the website?10:56
h0m35k1nkk10:56
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donofrio_for dns and openldap, and other sevices10:56
EnglaNogimics: --continue seems to be an option that works. there's a long section about it in the manpage10:56
YaSTAnyone with a 915GM graphic card with 128mb shared working 100% ?10:56
NogimicsIm a complete n00b so bare with me lol10:57
ZerO_ohatake_kakashi: i did it all. step for step.10:57
Unityhow come when i use 2048x1536 desktop, the letters appear really big?10:57
Nogimicsso if I type wget --continue http://www.xxx.xxx10:57
Nogimicsthat should work?10:57
EnglaNogimics: it's okay, it's great to learn stuff10:57
hatake_kakashiNogimics: don't see why not10:57
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syllogismI'm having trouble with ipw2200 driver. . It keeps telling me "Radio Frequency Kill Switch is on" - but I have no physical button for wireless. ..and never had this problem before on other distros10:57
EnglaNogimics: if you're  lucky. It might not find the original file10:57
wickersYaST, you gave your on board graphics controller 128megs?10:57
wickersYaST, you are nuts10:57
hatake_kakashiZerO_o: I mean from the ubuntu website?10:57
h0m35k1njason - I've read that but my EW-7128g card doesn't have a rt2500 chipset like that page says10:58
YaSTwickers, shared yeh10:58
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EnglaNogimics: basically, take the exact command you used but att --continue to it and it should work10:58
Nogimicsit might not Engla?10:58
h0m35k1nit's a rt61 chip in it10:58
Nogimicsatt?10:58
b1indI've compiled my own kernel and it is complaining about not finding the ipw2100 firmware, any suggestions?10:58
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ZerO_ohatake_kakashi: i tryd this one: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/1503/1/Ati-Treiber-installiernschnell-und-einfach.html10:59
EnglaNogimics: sorry, add10:59
Angel_DexHello i just added ram and changed my CPU and now im getting kernal panic why so?10:59
h0m35k1ncan you tell me how I can use the make-kpkg command10:59
Engla:)10:59
Nogimics:)10:59
donofrio_help10:59
wickersYaST, you should tone that mem down a bit, it's shared memory so you are just using up memory that could be used for applicaions or cache.10:59
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YaSTwickers, but still.. there is a way of putting it to work11:00
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YaSTcause ubuntu only recognizes 8mb's11:00
IdleOneAngel_Dex:  did you update?11:00
YaSTof the 128mb11:00
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_jasonh0m35k1n: install kernel-package11:00
yoyo?11:00
Angel_DexIdleOne update how11:00
wickersyou mean xorg, YaST,11:00
YaSTcause im using i810 driver11:00
lemsx1ttyl11:00
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rewt_do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v200011:00
IdleOneAngel_Dex:  in terminal sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:00
yoyohey... can anybody help me a little here11:00
linubbya all11:00
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_jason!helpme11:00
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:00
wickersyast, look at the driver's docs, there should be a section on memory11:00
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yoyoi'm having trouble with some ubuntu's applications11:01
YaSTwickers, the problem is that I get 1080 fps on glxgears and glxinfo show direct rendering enable11:01
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Angel_DexIdleOne Um no i havent even been able to boot to ubuntu i get Kernal panic fatal exception in interupt11:01
h0m35k1nthanks jason :D11:01
YaSTbut playing videos11:01
YaST... breaks all the time11:01
IdleOneAngel_Dex:  :(11:01
YaSTlike slowmotion :(11:01
yoyoopening gedit with an html file causes gedit to crash11:01
eobanbrewt_, all of those commands are entered in linux, not windows.  you just need the binary driver from windows for your chipset.11:01
anders__OmegaAlpha: I was afk, watching a video actually :-) The fglrx driver worked for me.11:01
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IdleOneAngel_Dex:  Ummm re-install :/11:01
Angel_DexIdleOne TT_TT I no wanna11:02
yoyoi type from a terminal #gedit file.html &11:02
IdleOneAngel_Dex:  lol I hear ya11:02
yoyoand gedit opens partially, then crashes11:02
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IdleOneAngel_Dex:  maybe somebody can help sorry11:02
Angel_DexIdleOne rebooting11:02
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IdleOneok11:02
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IdleOnethat may help11:02
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wickersYaST, i'm getting ~700fps with glxgears using my 855gme video11:02
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YaSTy11:03
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YaSTbut I cant play videos11:03
wickersvideos?11:03
wickersare you using xv?11:03
LinuxJonesclever: ;)11:03
yoyoanybody has a similar problem?11:03
YaSTtried xv x11 , gl2 gl11:03
YaSTnothing11:03
yoyoabout crashes?11:03
Nogimicshatake_kakashi and Engla that worked thanks11:03
YaST:(11:03
yanimaxI'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?11:03
wickersyast and it's not a codec problem?11:03
Angel_DexIdleOne ok its saying i booted 34 times without a diskcheck and now its goign thru diskcheck and then it says a bunch of stuff and kernal panic11:03
YaSTno11:03
cfkare the repos and kernels the same for ubuntu-server?11:03
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_jasonyoyo: does it give you errors?11:03
yoyojust crashes and a pop-up window appears11:04
wickersmmm.. I keep reading your nick and think I'm in #suse11:04
cyphaseIs there a way to programatically access the text in the Notes tab in the Nautilus file properties window?11:04
xualoi installed xine and im running it but everytime i have to put in the terminal ./xine its theres any way to put an icon to the menu?11:04
_jasonyoyo: does it do it with all files?11:04
Angel_DexIdleOne =o its going now odd maybe it froze befor?11:04
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yoyonope... just with .html files11:04
anders__hmm. seems that the picture when I watch videos is better in xine than in VLC and mplayer. anyone got a clue as to why that can be?11:04
IdleOneAngel_Dex:  maybe let it boot up and see how it goes11:04
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ltibor65Hi Guys! Please help me! How can I make a boot CD from Ubuntu boot floppy?11:04
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yoyoI have number lines activated and syntax highlighting11:05
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yoyoI noted that 3 days ago11:05
purplefeltangelEVERY TIME i load up my computer my ethernet thing isn't configured anymore. what's wrong/ how do i fix it?11:05
yoyothen I run Nessus and clamav to check if something was wrong11:05
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_jasonyoyo: if you turn those features off does it still crash?11:05
soundrayltibor65, look at the -b option in mkisofs11:05
IdleOnepurplefeltangel:  when rebooting check the save current setup box11:06
yoyoit could work... thing is11:06
yoyoit didn't crash before11:06
yoyoalso I noted that cups is crashing when configuring the printer11:06
bla|patrickhas anyone an idea whats meant by following failure: ohci_hcd *numbers* unlink after no irq? different acpi or apic settings may help11:06
yanimaxapache2 tries to download .pl files instead of executing them, anyone knows what's wrong in my config ?11:06
yoyoand is the same kind of window:11:07
purplefeltangelidle0ne: thxu11:07
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bla|patrickthis message always appears if i plugin a usb device (mouse, wlanstick, keyboard)11:07
IdleOnepurplefeltangel:  np hope that solves it for you11:07
bla|patrickbootprocess always fails :|11:07
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yoyoThe application "gedit" has crashed unexpectedly. You can inform the developpers...11:07
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yoyo3 options: restar appli, close appli, inform developers11:08
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_jasonyoyo: check .xsession-errors, don't know what else to tell you.  Haven't seen that kind of behavior before11:08
anders__anyone know of an ffdshow-like program for linux?11:09
soundraybla|patrick, apic and acpi options are set via kernel boot parameters. Edit the #kopts line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, adding e.g. "noapic". Then run update-grub and reboot.11:09
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yoyo_jason, something curious:11:09
_jasonyoyo: what if you run 'gedit file.html' without the &, do you then get some output on the terminal?11:09
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yoyowhen terminal regains control with some command11:09
ubuntutotal noob here: I get an 'error 18' when booting using grub ... trying to dual boot win2k (I know ...) and hoary 5.0411:09
ubuntucan someone help?11:10
ubuntuthanks!11:10
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yoyoit tells: [1] + Exit 1           gedit file.html (wd: ~/TEMP)11:10
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yoyoand it tells also (wd nox: ~)11:10
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daiverhello room11:10
edude05hey everyone11:10
yoyowhat is the meaning of (wd now: ~)11:10
cfkwhat in dapper-server resets the video from vga=6 (25x80) to normal (25x40) ?11:10
=== xualo hmmm Xine its better than mplayer :P
edude05I need some help with XUbuntu11:11
soundrayubuntu, is this a fairly old machine?11:11
ltibor65soundray, at -b option is written that it set El Torito boot image name. But what mean this? And how to burn cd with it? Need I K3b?11:11
_jasonyoyo: if I had to guess I would say working directory, but I have no clue11:11
ubuntusoundray, it's a dell dimension xps t600, pIII11:11
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daiverDoes anyone know what is the risk of uncommenting universe sources in sources.list?11:11
edude05it says kernel panic init attemped to kill its self11:11
_jasondaiver: none11:11
soundrayltibor65, have you burned a CD before, and if so, what software did you use then?11:11
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ubuntuI just installed a 160gb hd, with win2k in the 1st partition11:12
yoyoin .xsession-errors there's something about gnome-cups-icons:722911:12
daiver_jason: why does it say in big capital letters that it's unsupported? Is it just a formality?11:12
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yoyoit says IPP request failed with status 128011:12
LinuxJonesdaiver: welcome11:12
ltibor65soundray, in Ubuntu k3b.11:12
soundrayubuntu, it's possible that your BIOS doesn't support a disk this big. Toggling LBA support in the setup may help.11:13
YaSTso Does anyone has a 915GM graphic card working fine on ubuntu?11:13
daiverLinuxJones: Thanks!11:13
charlieHello, I used to be able to play more than two sounds than once on ubuntu, I just recently got a new HDD so Ive done a fresh installion, I remember I had to download somethings and scripts, and when I wanted to boot up something with sound i typed aoss cmd etc11:13
charlieany ideas of what it was?11:13
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_jasondaiver: it's not officially supported.  The package in universe are from the MOTU, masters of the universe :).  It's very safe though, I'd say everyone ends up using them since they provide a lot of useful stuff11:13
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daiver_jason: alrighty. thanks. needed to do that to install fglrx11:13
edude05Oh yeah and this is on an xbox11:14
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ubuntusoundray, I tried what I thought was changing the bios, and it returned an 'error 17'. I switched back to 'auto' detect, and the 'error 18' returned11:14
charlie_jason, could you help me on my question, i think you helped me before on my last installion11:14
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yoyonope11:14
yoyoit still doesn't work11:14
bla|patrickcrap :|11:15
bla|patrickdisabled acpi and still the same error11:15
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daiverYaST: Do you have the ATI card in there?11:15
YaSTn11:15
yoyotried just gedit file.html without & and still crashes11:15
YaSTIntel 915GM11:15
_jasoncharlie: what 'it' are you looking for?11:15
edude05anyone?11:15
YaST128mb shared graphic card11:15
YaSTbut xorg only detects 8mb11:15
_jasonyoyo: but still no output to the terminal?11:15
charlie_jason,  I used to be able to play more than two sounds than once on ubuntu, I just recently got a new HDD so Ive done a fresh installion, I remember I had to download somethings and scripts, and when I wanted to boot up something with sound i typed aoss cmd etc11:15
YaSTby i810 driver's default11:15
Angel_DexOk so i added ram and switched CPUs i boot up and it said 34 boots no disk check forcing one now it runs thru and gets stuck on kernal panic: fatal exception in interupt WTF is wrong?11:15
daiverYaST: I have the 915PM with the ATI x600 card and all I can say is that it is a headache.11:15
yoyotried disabling syntax highligting and line numbering and still crashes11:15
_jasoncharlie: right, you want to know how to get the aoss command again?11:16
charlieand made sounds mix with it11:16
charliewith dmixer11:16
charlieetc11:16
YaSTrealy bummer :(11:16
yoyoin terminal?11:16
soundrayltibor65, you have to create an image file from the floppy with 'sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 of=bootfloppy.img'. In k3b, select "File - New Data CD Project", then "Project - Edit Boot Images". Load the floppy image in there, then burn the bootable CD.11:16
yoyoI just typed "gedit file.html"11:16
rewt_i installed java to play yahoo games11:16
yoyothat's a pity11:16
rewt_now when the game starts to load mozilla crashes11:16
soundrayltibor65, it may work without the sudo even11:16
yoyoubuntu was working fine11:16
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rewt_any ideas why11:17
daiverYaST: I've yet to find a distro that works on this laptop.  Im usually stuck with vesa and running 1024x768 on a 17" WUXGA :(11:17
_jasoncharlie: did you set your system up to use alsa already?11:17
yoyonow I can't even add my printer nor edit html in gedit11:17
soundrayubuntu, is this a fresh install?11:17
ltibor65soundray, thank , I try it.11:17
charlie_jason, It has alsa installed yes same as before11:17
ubuntusoundray, yes it is11:17
YaSTI got my running with i810 drivers.. works fine11:17
charliebut I had to install aoss command or something to get it working11:17
charliebefore11:17
YaSTget 1080fps on glxgears and direct rendering is enable on glxinfo11:17
YaSTbut playing videos...11:17
_jasoncharlie: oh, it's the alsa-oss package that installs aoss command11:17
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rewt_Mozilla crashes when java is done loading the game room....I just installed java...any ideas why it would crash?11:18
soundrayubuntu, I think you'll have to reinstall with LBA turned on. Old buggy BIOS's can be a pain.11:18
charlie_jason, then how do I do the dmixer settings11:18
videofreakwhy is linux so hard to use?11:18
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alphaif i have a "no devices detected" error in xorglog, is that the monitor or vcard?11:18
soundrayvideofreak, computers are generally hard to use.11:18
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IdleOnevideofreak:  thats the fun part of linux11:19
Angel_Dexvideofreak cuz windows is for the lazy11:19
syydvideofreak, you don't learn it overnite11:19
Angel_DexOk so i added ram and switched CPUs i boot up and it said 34 boots no disk check forcing one now it runs thru and gets stuck on kernal panic: fatal exception in interupt WTF is wrong?11:19
_jasoncharlie: that I don't know, my card mixed everything fine as soon as I setup alsa in system > prefs > multimedia systems selector.  The alsa site has a nice tutorial for setting up dmix though if you have to.  Or just try seeing if anyone else here has done it11:19
rewt_>.<11:19
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ZerO_ore11:20
charlie_jason, Whats there website?11:20
rewt_ubotu tell me again about restricted formats11:20
_jasoncharlie: google alsa :)11:20
eugmanHow hard would it be to make a live cd with most of the easyubuntu stuff done to it?11:20
rewt_uboto tell me about Restricted Formats11:20
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rewt_ubotu tell me about Restricted Formats11:20
ubuntusoundray, do you mean both os's? or just hoary 5.04?11:20
_jasoncharlie: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:20
edude05Can anyone help me?11:20
IdleOne!restrictedformats11:20
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:20
yoyohere's a thought: gnome-cups-add:10653: WARNING **: Two ppds have driver == 'hpijs'11:21
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soundrayubuntu, if Windows boots, there's no need to reinstall.11:21
Englaeugman: it's not a bad idea to make an "ubuntu add-on pack" with lots of things we always install, like that stuff11:21
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alphahow do i list my pci cards?11:21
edude05lspci11:21
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soundrayeugman, probably not too hard. Look at the package dfsbuild11:21
yoyoan hour ago I reinstalled hpijs from synaptic11:21
rewt_grr11:22
ubuntusoundray, windows doesn't boot, grub just stops the whole boot process at the error msg11:22
yoyoi'm trying to install an hp deskjet printer... nothing too complicated11:22
rewt_why would mozilla crash when loading java, eve after i installed java?11:22
tritium_awayrewt_: how did you install java?11:22
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rewt_through the restricted formats page11:23
soundrayubuntu, did you install Windows first, and did it boot?11:23
kyocan I surf the net on terminal? (text base obviously)11:23
eugmanDo I need to make a temporarily main partition based swap for it to work?11:23
soundray!info links11:23
yoyokyo: use lynx11:23
ubotulinks: (Character mode WWW browser), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 375 kB, Installed size: 936 kB11:23
charlieHello guys, does anyone here have a dmixer config to mix more than 1 sound with11:23
_jasonkyo: lynx11:23
rewt_im just trying to play some yahoo games and it keeps crashing11:23
kyook11:23
kyoHmm11:23
ZerO_ohow to install the ati-radeon-9800-pro-driver? it doesn't really work. in gnome the resolution is ok (1248x1024), but if i try to run a benchmark or anything else, it returns "Failed" ..... why?11:23
bla|patrickis "dri" enabled in modules?11:24
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ubuntusoundray, yes, and I did all the updates, to it before installing ubuntu in the new partition11:24
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bla|patrickhave u reconfigured xorg?11:24
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benannehello... would it be possible to stuff ubuntu onto a 600M vmware image? or is that impossible? I've tried it with some other distro's but either they don't fit or I can't get them configured properly11:24
soundrayubuntu, in that case, it'll probably be enough if you reinstall Ubuntu. It should then recognize the Win partition and make it bootable from the grub menu.11:24
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rewt_tritium, any ideas why it would crash11:24
tritiumrewt_: you built a .deb using java-package?11:25
SuperNovadoesnt anyone know how you can se what licens a progr is released under in synaptic?11:25
eugmanOk I'm downloading dfsbuild . Anything special I need to do like make my ram+swap = 3GB or something?11:25
rewt_rewt i dunno11:25
soundraybenanne, server installation should fit.11:25
rewt_tritium, i dunno11:25
rewt_i just did the installsuff11:25
tritiumrewt_: you don't recall how you installed java?11:25
ebdainLiveCD fun:  Cannot get it to finish booting.  It will go through and detect everything, check the CD, get DHCP, flip to FB booting (modules and whatnot), load X, play the Ubuntu startup sound.  After that, the keyboard freezes (no lights work, etc.) but the mouse is working (so not hard-locked).  I have no desktop at all, and have to hit the reset button on the PC at that point.  I've tried a few boot-time options and still no love.11:25
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rewt_tritium, i used the commands in restricted formats page11:25
benannehmm... no need for servers though. The idea is to turn it into a ruby on rails development platform to use in college when I'm bored :) I recently found out that all PCs there have vmware player installed11:25
yoyouummmm...11:25
charlieHello guys, does anyone here have a dmixer config to mix more than 1 sound with, I have aoss installed etc11:26
yoyoany help out there... installing hp deskjet11:26
yoyoopening html files in gedit11:26
eobanbgedit in gnome 2.14 is going to rock11:26
eobanbhttp://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/images/gedit.png11:26
yoyono one else has crashes...?11:26
rewt_tritium, i did  sudo apt-get install j2re1.411:26
rewt_11:26
tritiumrewt_: ok11:26
soundraybenanne, server is just a variation of the ubuntu install, where you don't have gnome packages. A fresh desktop install with gnome has about 1.5 GB.11:27
benanneoh, I see11:27
benanneokay :)11:27
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cfkdapper-server - how do I set/keep the boot messages in 25x80 ?11:27
ubuntusoundray, when I installed ubuntu it did recognize the win partition, but I suppose the barrier is still the bios/lba thing. My win partition is 98gb, then a 512mb swap, and then the remaining partition is Ubuntu11:27
benannethanks for the tip11:27
benannegonna give it a try now :) thanks11:28
cfkI think the 'splash screen' ends up flipping it back to 25x4011:28
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cfkis there some way to disable the cute ubuntu boot image ?11:28
=== xualo can someone help me to create an icon to the menu i install xine but and everytime i want to open i have to go to the terminal a type ./xine its there any way to create an icon to the menu?
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yoyoyou can try smeg to edit the menu11:29
soundrayubuntu, I hear you. (Not actually, but you know what I mean :) Advice is the same.11:29
xualoplease11:29
yanimaxapache2 tries to download .pl files instead of executing them, anyone knows what's wrong in my config ?11:29
rewt_tritium, im using a 64 bit amd11:29
Seveasyanimax, +ExecCgi is probaby missing in your dir (or mod_perl, whatever you use)11:30
ubuntusoundray, thanks for the advice -- I appreciate it!11:30
worthawholebeanyanimax: maybe forctype would help... but i hace no idea11:30
benanneI suppose what I'm trying should be possible seeing as vmware's "browser appliance" is ubuntu-based and takes only 250 or so megs11:30
tritiumrewt_: oh, that's likely the problem.  32-bit chroots on 64-bit installs are often used for things like jva11:30
soundrayxualo, have you rebooted or restarted X since the install?11:30
tritiumjava even11:30
rewt_tritium, so what do i do?11:30
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xualowhat if i do ctrl+alt+backspace it will do the job?11:30
soundrayxualo, it may do.11:31
cafuegorewt_: For the moment, if I were you, I'd go back to running Ubuntu 32bit.11:31
Angel_DexOk so i added ram and switched CPUs i boot up and it said 34 boots no disk check forcing one now it runs thru and gets stuck on kernal panic: fatal exception in interupt WTF is wrong?11:31
Angel_Dexplzz this is agervating me11:31
xualook11:31
tritiumrewt_: I'm not sure about the state of java on 64-bit amd presently11:31
xualocheers man11:31
yanimax<Seveas> libapache2-mod-perl2 is installed11:31
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alpha_i'm getting a "no devices detected" in xorg...11:31
rewt_grrr11:31
Seveasyanimax, and loaded?11:31
tritiumrewt_: perhaps setup a 32-bit chroot11:31
Seveasand configured?11:31
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yanimax<Seveas> i have restarted apache2...11:31
cafuegotritium: There's a 1.4.2 blackdown apckage; a 1.5.0 sun package, but no actual working browser plugin.11:31
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soundraycafuego, is that because of the intricacies of setting up 32bit chroot?11:31
Seveasyanimax, a2enmod perl211:32
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rewt_i dunno how11:32
tritiumcafuego: ah, thanks for the info!11:32
yoyoI looked at the bug buddy tool11:32
yanimaxSeveas: sorry?11:32
cafuegosoundray: No, it's easy enough to set up. Having to maintain 2 parallel installs ends up being a PITA though.11:32
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Seveasyanimax, that's the command to actually enable the module 11:32
AX-1how can i change my refresh rate + resolution from command line?11:32
cafuegosoundray: And for normal desktop use, 32bit is actually faster.11:32
SeveasAX-1, sudo nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf and restart X11:32
AX-1ok i will try11:33
yanimax<Seveas> it says "This module does not exist!" in bash11:33
yoyoit has something to do with libthread_db.so.111:33
soundraycafuego, is there an explanation for that? (32bit=faster)11:33
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cafuegoAnyone know if Breezy supports nForce4 mobos with sata2 yet?11:33
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yanimax<Seveas> perhaps i should restart my computer...11:33
cafuegosoundray: the compiler for 32bit is FAR more mature11:33
yanimax<Seveas> I'll try and tell you...11:33
Seveasyanimax, no, sudo a2enmod perl; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart11:33
ebdaincafuego - I'm testing that now.... LiveCD is weird, but I can at least see my drives.11:34
soundraycafuego, okay, thanks. SATA2 requires a 2.6.15 kernel I believe.11:34
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cafuegosoundray: For other stuff, like heavy i/o etc (server?) running 64bit would be better.11:34
superbobHi, just installed ubuntu and alot of howtos im reading refer to module-assistant11:34
moodogevening all.11:34
superbobBut module-assistant isnt in apt11:34
cafuegoebdai/soundray: ok.11:34
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superbobFor example an ati howto @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358411:34
Seveas!info module-assistant11:34
ubotumodule-assistant: (tool to make module package creation easier), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.9.5ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 69 kB, Installed size: 364 kB11:34
nitroXLdoes anyone know if exists a volatile repositorie for ubuntu ?11:34
Seveas^-- superbob11:34
yanimax<Seveas>: it says "This module is already enabled!"11:34
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tritiumsuperbob!tell superbob about repositories11:35
yoyolibpthread.so.0... heck this is complicated to follow11:35
tritiumheh ;)11:35
cafuegotritium: Your ctrl-u is broken ;-)11:35
ebdainLiveCD fun:  Cannot get it to finish booting.  It will go through and detect everything, check the CD, get DHCP, flip to FB booting (modules and whatnot), load X, play the Ubuntu startup sound.  After that, the keyboard freezes (no lights work, etc.) but the mouse is working (so not hard-locked).  Testing further, if I smash crtl-alt-F1, I can get a prompt, and then Ctrl-Alt-F7 gives me a functional Gnome desktop.  Any thoughts on why11:35
ebdainthis would be required?11:35
Seveasyanimax, hmm, then restarting apache2 should have done it, you might want to take a look at the config11:35
yanimax<Seveas> bur it still doesn't work after restarting apache211:35
soundraycafuego, I have a memory intensive app where amd64 wins by a wide margin (ca. 8 times faster)11:35
tritiumcafuego: oops :)11:35
cafuegosoundray: That would come under heavy i/o ;-)11:35
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soundraycafuego, and heavy floating point arithmetic, too.11:36
superbobBut why cant i apt-get install module-assistant ?11:36
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Seveassuperbob, enable universe11:36
cafuegofloat in -> float out11:36
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heliotropeis there any type of program for ubuntu i can use like a planner, for writing all my homework assignments etc, and will be like a calander and stuff?11:36
cafuegoi/o11:36
Seveas!tell superbob about universe11:36
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superbobAh just sources.list ?11:36
superbobk11:36
superbob|:11:36
soundrayheliotrope, evolution11:36
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heliotropesoundray, oh, evolution can do all of that?11:37
rewt_how do i uninstall java11:37
rewt_??11:37
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Seveascafuego, "mob shopping" 11:37
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soundrayheliotrope, yes.11:37
heliotropesoundray, very cool :)11:37
heliotropesoundray, thanks11:37
Seveasrewt_, how did you install it?11:37
cafuegoSeveas: Why the odd kanji smiley?11:37
Seveascafuego, because it's fun 11:37
CryptidHow Can i add a Keyboard hotkey to start a perticular program example: Xirc ???????11:37
yanimaxSeveas: i don't understand what's wrong...11:37
rewt_i did  sudo apt-get install j2re1.411:37
yoyohey... i have something about uim_quit11:37
cafuegorewt_: sudo apt-get remove j2re1.411:37
yoyoin the bug....11:37
rewt_its not working on my 64bit11:37
_jasonubotu: tell Cryptid about shortcut11:37
yanimaxSeveas: i'll try restarting the system...11:37
SeveasCryptid, look in gconf-editor in /apps/metacity/keybindings11:37
yoyoI installed it for writing japanese11:38
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yoyoI read it was better than scim, at least for ubuntu11:38
yoyothere is something in the backtrace like11:38
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ebdainspoke too soon.... Ctrl-Alt-F7 takes me to a NON-functional Gnome desktop.11:38
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cafuegoSeveas: 11:38
soundrayCryptid, apart from listening to ubotu, have a look at xbindkeys11:38
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Seveasyoyo, half the CJK world says scim is better, the other half prefers uim11:38
rewt_anyone know how to get a java that run s in 64 bit11:38
Seveascafuego, ?11:38
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CryptidK11:38
yoyo<signal handler called> uim_quit() from /us/lib/libuim.so.011:39
tritiumrewt_: you'll not have much luck down that path, I'm afraid11:39
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yoyoseveas, yes... but somewhere I read scim for ubuntu made some11:39
yoyoapplications crash11:39
rewt_grrr11:39
soundrayCryptid, oops, xbindkeys information is in ubotu's links, too.11:39
yoyothat's why I installed UIM11:39
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cfkis there a way to pause between each step of the boot process?   trying to figure out what is flipping my video mode11:39
yoyobut now it appears it's making crashes on gnome-cups11:39
Seveasyoyo, same goes for uim 11:40
rosangelahi there.  when I put a audio cd it plays just noise. But if I ask to play via xmms it plays normal. Whats wrong?11:40
yoyoso I can't install a printer11:40
Cryptidsoundray, yes and i am going thru it11:40
zugotis there a way i can have different network profiles?  i want one wired for when i'm in the office, one wireless for when i'm at home, and another wireless for tmobile hotspots11:40
yoyobut it used to work fine some days ago11:40
yoyothere were no crashes at all11:40
yoyobut in bug buddy, I see some lines with uim_quit11:40
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yoyois it really connected?11:41
yoyoseveas, what do you use?11:41
soundrayrosangela, this could be due to some copy protection on the CD.11:41
Seveasyoyo, neither11:41
rosangelano its not. This cd is pirate11:41
yoyowhat do I do?11:41
[blah] is samba installed by default?11:41
soundray!samba11:42
ubotuwell, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently11:42
soundray!info samba11:42
ubotusamba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB11:42
worthawholebeanHello! I just downloaded a whole beunch of TV eps and burned them to DVD (the AVIs, not encoded), but now they won't play. Only the first ep will play - for the others, mplayer stops on the cache fill.11:42
[blah] thanx11:42
rewt_Seveas, do you kow much about getting java running fine in mozilla on a 64 bit?11:42
rosangelasoundray, the cdrom is not protected11:42
yoyothere's more than only uim11:42
yoyothere's a libpthread.so.011:42
cafuegoUgh, the curse of the incompetent pirate11:42
yoyolibgnomeui-2.so.011:43
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cafuegoworthawholebean: You know we can't assist you in breaking laws, right?11:43
foampeacehello11:43
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Seveasrewt_, no11:43
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tritiumworthawholebean: walk the plank, scurvy dog ;)11:43
foampeacei got the free 5 ubuntu cds(actually 10 w/livecds) in the mail11:43
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dnldshi11:44
syllogismdoes anyone have time to help me with my ipw2200 problem?11:44
jendacafuego: he OWNs the shows, of course11:44
foampeaceseeeeet11:44
syllogismI'd greatly appreciate it11:44
foampeacesweeeet11:44
tritiumjenda: sure he does...11:44
jenda:)11:44
superbobI feel dirty using ubuntu11:44
dnldsi'm trying to install anjuta and i get this error..11:44
soundraytritium, cafuego: there's nothing in worthawholebean's post that indicates illegal activity.11:44
superbobIts.. too easy11:44
cafuegosuperbob: Have a shower11:44
superbob:p11:45
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foampeacesuperbob: if its too easy make it hard11:45
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superbobfoampeace I did, i broke something just now actually11:45
cafuegosoundray: "downloaded a whole beunch of TV eps" pretty much implies it11:45
superbobJust as i typed that11:45
Bung1hey all, i have an external usb harddrive, and it says its "read only" ive just tried $ sudo chmod a+rx <device> .. but it still says read-only? ive forgotten if its NTFS O.o11:45
superbob:)11:45
yoyosuperbob, then do you have an advice with gnome-cups crash?11:45
foampeacesuperbob: thats what this open ended thing is all about isnt it? hehe11:45
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soundraycafuego, not necessarily. Or do you know for sure which legislation he fell under?11:45
superbobI followed the ati proprietary driver guide on ubuntu forums11:46
yoyowithout printing, there's no use11:46
cafuegosoundray: I know there are legal tv ep downlaods, but they aren't normally in AVI format.11:46
superbobAnd now im left with an unuseable desktop11:46
foampeacesuperbob: but it has to have an easy part so you can ease right into it11:46
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superbob;)11:46
{jasper}hello guys, anyone here who can help me setup my serial port? I can't get it to work11:46
superbobI cant even ctrl + alt + backspace out of the GDM (sp?) thing..11:46
tritiumsoundray: please don't encourage it11:46
superbobTo try and fix it11:46
foampeacesuperbob: unuseable desktop, way to go ;)11:46
superbobhorizontal banding all over my screen11:47
foampeacenow you get to fix it11:47
superbobRotfl11:47
soundraycafuego, in any case, I'm in favor of assuming innocence.11:47
foampeacei wish mine was messed up11:47
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superbobomg i cant get to a console.11:47
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ProtexHey guys.11:47
naldoni'm trying to install anjuta i get the following error.......11:47
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cafuegosoundray: yeah, so am I, but not in a 95%/5% situation.11:47
superbobwhat is this satanic login screen made of.11:47
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Seveassoundray, "downloaded a bunch of tv episodes" kinda gives it away...11:47
Bung1is there a command to check if its NTFS?11:47
naldonerror: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.11:47
naldonhelp please11:47
Seveas!tell naldon about compiling11:48
tritiumsuperbob: what on earth are you talking about?11:48
OmegaAlphaamphi, you there pal?11:48
soundraySeveas, not in Germany, for example.11:48
Unityi have my desktop res at 2048x1536 and all the letters take up too many pixels11:48
superbobtritium, i followed the guide for the proprietary ati driver from the ubuntu forums11:48
Unityhow can i make the letters take up as many pixels as the would on 1024x76811:48
superbobtritium, on reboot the display is broken11:48
Seveassuperbob, wiki has a better guide...11:48
yoyommmm.... anjuta, did you have the variable defined?11:48
foampeacesuperbob: they stuff it with hay11:48
Unitydo i have to change my dpi settings or something?11:48
OmegaAlphai just fixed my ati driver.. but dont know exactly what i did to fix it for the 3d accel.11:49
tritiumUnity: don't use greedy letters.11:49
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naldonthat page didn't help11:49
nagyatiussomeone from hungary_11:49
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Unitytritium: how would i turn off greedy letters? it works okay in gnome but the letters are really big in kde and in the welcome screen11:49
foampeaceim impressed i got my 10 free ubuntu cds in the mail...some integrity there11:50
cafuegonagyatius: Most hungarians are.11:50
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naldonhow do i set PKG_CONFIG_PATH11:50
tritiumUnity: not sure what's going on there11:50
pepsixfce is spiffy :D11:50
nagyatiusshow me one,need help with configuring internet conection11:51
cafuegonaldon: You don't.11:51
naldoncafuego, how do i go about fixing my problem?11:51
Unitythis clearly isn't size 8 font...this is like size 2011:51
superbobIf my screen is condensed to about 50% of the monitor, and there are huge amounts of "wiggling" what is the likely cause ?11:51
superbobIncorrect refresh rates?11:51
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cristianciao11:52
[blah] are there hotkeys for switching between desktops?   (eg alt-f1, f2 etc)11:52
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rewt_[blah] , no11:52
tritium[blah] : Ctrl-Alt-arrows11:52
rewt_you can set some up though11:52
_jason[blah] : you can set them in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts11:53
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[blah] is there anyway to use the windows key?11:53
cristianhi i'm a new users about ubuntu11:53
_jasonubotu: tell [blah]  about winkey11:53
rewt_blah set it up in sys> pref> hotkeys11:53
yoyowelll....11:53
tritium[blah] : did you verify that ctrl-alt-arrows work?11:53
yoyono help there?11:53
Effidoes anyone of you has installed xmms-skins?11:53
yoyoani hints?11:53
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yoyowhatever....11:53
[blah] titium yes thank you11:53
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ltibor65soundray, I burned the boot cd, but Ubuntu boots not from it. Only Win Xp and an other Linux. Why?11:54
_jason[blah] : ignore ubotu unless you want the inkey as a modifier like ALT11:54
ablomenEffi: yes i have11:54
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whatthedeuceltibor65 you need to change your bios settings to boot from CD11:54
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[blah] thanx for that _jason .  I do want that11:54
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cfHi, is there an eta for Flight 4 of Dapper ?11:55
Effiablomen, I have the following problem. I installed them with synaptic but when I start xmms and want to change the skin it says, that there are no skins installed. Can you give me an advice, what I could have maked wrong?11:55
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mickhey up all!11:55
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soundrayltibor65, does it actually boot off the CD?11:56
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ablomenEffi: ok first make shure the skins folder (in the xmms skin browser) is set to /usr/share/xmms/Skins11:56
soundrayltibor65, and what kind of boot code was on the floppy?11:56
ltibor65whathedeuce, the problem is not the bios setting, it boots from cd, but in Grub only WIN XP and UHU LInux, and Ubuntu not.11:56
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OmegaAlphahow do you run WINE after you install it?11:56
Protocol1yey 2 1/2 more months till dapper is official11:57
whatthedeuceltibor65, did you mess with the grub settings - that always gives me problems, i never seem to get it right...11:57
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benannehmm... 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox' on the server install tells me the package can't be found :( anybody have any idea what i'm doing wrong?11:57
Effiablomen, alright, it works, thank you very much11:58
soundrayltibor65, when you boot the floppy, can you start Ubuntu from it?11:58
ltibor65soundray, the CD boots, but not Ubuntu, only WIN Xp and Uhu Linux.11:58
ablomenEffi: any time11:58
Effido you accidentally also use sylpheed-claws?11:58
OmegaAlphahow do you run WINE aftering installing it?11:58
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ltibor65soundray, yes from floppy boots Ubuntu too.11:58
OmegaAlphai typed wine in terminal but i need to type more than that i think11:59
soundrayOmegaAlpha, wine somewindowsprogram.exe11:59
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OmegaAlphaohh11:59
OmegaAlphasoundray, thanks11:59
donofrio_how do I setup a box to be an active directory replica11:59
yoyowhat does wine do?11:59
Protocol1does anyone know if I will be able to upgrade to dapper from ubuntu 5.10 without the cd's?11:59
OmegaAlphayoyo,  windows emulator11:59
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