[12:00] <AntMaz> korhalf its not like windows were you have to restart everytime you install something
[12:00] <DCCOLE> what good 3d games are there
[12:00] <basic> hah
[12:00] <DCCOLE> in UBUNTU resp
[12:00] <AntMaz> korhalf  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:00] <basic> enemy territory
[12:00] <fishdish> wine runs max payne better than windows
[12:00] <AntMaz> korhalf wget apt wine in terminal
[12:00] <DCCOLE> ok
[12:00] <basic> fishdish i dont believe you
[12:01] <fishdish> and lots of other cool wondows games not yet available as linux binaries
[12:01] <AntMaz> i dont believe you either fishdish
[12:01] <fishdish> basic you better try
[12:01] <basic> every game i've run in wine has run faster in windows
[12:01] <hangfire> max paine is one of the best FPS ever
[12:01] <basic> max payne is a third person shooter
[12:01] <korhalf> well i think you need to restart to boot into the new kernel
[12:01] <hangfire> whoops, your right
[12:01] <korhalf> i mean i might be wrong..
[12:01] <fishdish> except max payne and age of empires 2
[12:01] <fishdish> at least...
[12:02] <midwinter> korhalf, sure you do..
[12:02] <basic> eh
[12:02] <mikolaj> witam
[12:02] <mikolaj> jest tu moe kto kto mwi po Polsku czy niezbyt :/
[12:02] <Kyo> how can I set up my own email server instead of using yahoo and gmail and stuff ...
[12:02] <navarone> !pl
[12:02] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[12:02] <xerophyte> what is the best visio replacement
[12:02] <AntMaz> kyo just use firefox
[12:02] <korhalf> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/    << why does it download so slow.
[12:02] <korhalf> damn
[12:03] <basic> dapper is only going 125kb/s :(
[12:03] <korhalf> im going like 6 kb/s
[12:03] <fishdish> it could be the hardware too that has to do with the framerate... if there's the right linux driver and opengl is used, then there should be an advantage in runtime
[12:03] <bimberi> luxury
[12:03] <hangfire> there is a bunch of email clients in ubuntu, just look under install programs> internet
[12:03] <DCCOLE> does UBUNTU have quake in it
[12:03] <korhalf> lawls
[12:03] <fishdish> no kuake
[12:03] <mikolaj> hej
[12:03] <korhalf> yes, does it have quake in it?
[12:03] <basic> max payne is a d3d game
[12:03] <AntMaz> its cause the server is ip compatiple
[12:03] <hangfire> no, you still have to buy quake
[12:03] <basic> quake is linux native
[12:03] <korhalf> i want to have quake in my ubuntu
[12:04] <mikolaj> czy kto tu jest z polski czy nie
[12:04] <Seveas> !pl
[12:04] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[12:04] <fishdish> kuake is freeware
[12:04] <AntMaz> how much sense does that make
[12:04] <korhalf> quake, quake 2 and quake 3 source is all gpled
[12:04] <fishdish> kuake 4 is still for sale / from gnutella only
[12:04] <Kyo> heh
[12:04] <DCCOLE> Yeah but take to long to compile
[12:04] <bonez> hmm stupid but how do i see what kernel i have currently
[12:04] <hangfire> oh, your talking the original quake 1
[12:04] <GarBhaD> the source is gpled but not the game... or that's what I heard
[12:04] <AntMaz> would i have to get another kernel to run half life under wine
[12:04] <korhalf> so just compile the source lol
[12:04] <DCCOLE> Quake1
[12:04] <GarBhaD> the game data, I mean
[12:04] <korhalf> I want to play quake 1 :)
[12:04] <mikolaj>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[12:04] <Kyo> kyo
[12:05] <korhalf> okay steal the pak files from someone
[12:05] <korhalf> dont know
[12:05] <GarBhaD> musics, textures, artwork...
[12:05] <fishdish> the maps are all over the net...
[12:05] <mikolaj> #
[12:05] <mikolaj>     /msg nickserv set email <freedy666@tlen.pl>
[12:05] <Kyo> AntMaz, what do you mean by 'just use firefox' .. can I set up my own customized email in firefox?
[12:05] <AntMaz> no kyo
[12:05] <Kyo> I see
[12:06] <kyo_>  /nick Kyo
[12:06] <zebraFusion> Question
[12:06] <zebraFusion> Do I need to unblock port 80 on my router to allow apache connections through?
[12:06] <hangfire> there are a bunch of email clients in ubuntu, you should have an icon by default for an email client in your top toolbar
[12:06] <AntMaz> there is some email cliet i saw it somewere i just dont remeber were
[12:06] <midwinter> zebraFusion, yeah.
[12:06] <DCCOLE> there is a quake 2 engine???
[12:06] <basic> so is anyone using dapper and xgl?
[12:06] <Kyo> any guide to show me how to secure ubuntu?
[12:06] <fishdish> goodnite realworld i'm going to bed for 2 hours before i need to wake up for work =)
[12:06] <mikolaj> hi i need help
[12:07] <basic> the quake2 engine is just a souped up quake 1 engine
[12:07] <AntMaz> so goto ubuntu.com and type email in the search bar
[12:07] <Kyo> ok
[12:07] <korhalf>  basic, you must be the uncanny thinker here
[12:07] <midwinter> heh
[12:07] <korhalf> im guessing that Half life 2's engine is just a souped up half life 1 engine
[12:07] <Angel_Dex> anyone know a good FPS i can get from the repos?
[12:07] <AntMaz> basic is a fun language
[12:07] <hangfire> Linux is very secure from the getgo, you have to type in passwords to anything root related in ubuntu
[12:08] <korhalf> Angel_Dex, i want to know myself
[12:08] <midwinter> I doubt there is any in the repos.
[12:08] <korhalf> sux
[12:08] <korhalf> no Linux FPS
[12:08] <Angel_Dex> korhalf i just hope ill have sound with anything
[12:08] <korhalf> sorry i dont like wine'ing CS:S
[12:08] <AntMaz> hey you know mac os is unix based
[12:08] <bside> what is synaptics  ?
[12:08] <korhalf> i like whining about it not working though
[12:08] <basic> Angel_Dex get enemy territory
[12:09] <Kyo> for evolution,  config setup, it says server config -> server ... what do I put in that?
[12:09] <BioVorE> mac OS X is BSD based
[12:09] <basic> its free and q3 based
[12:09] <korhalf> lol Enemy Territory is decent.
[12:09] <basic> yes it is.
[12:09] <midwinter> bside, the front-end to apt-get
[12:09] <hangfire> maxOSX is based on FreeBSD
[12:09] <Angel_Dex> is it repo or buy or what?
[12:09] <midwinter> bside, you use it to download packages
[12:09] <basic> doom3, quake1-4, unreal tournament...
[12:09] <AntMaz> bside http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:09] <navarone> kyo I imagine it wants to know the server to connect to for retrieving and sending mail
[12:10] <jubei> hey guys, which file do I change to change supported refresh rates?
[12:10] <basic> xorg.conf
[12:10] <midwinter> jubei, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:10] <hangfire> you dont have to change any files, just go into system config
[12:10] <jubei> thanks :)
[12:10] <BioVorE> smb_writepage_sync: failed write, wsize=4096, write_ret=-512  <-- Any Ideas on what this is and how to fix it?
[12:10] <Kyo> navarone, ; Hmmm yes. So I find a place that offers SMTP or somethin'?
[12:11] <Kyo> doesn't yahoo offer SMPT?
[12:11] <jenda> How does one install from tar.gz?
[12:11] <BioVorE> tar -xvzf
[12:11] <jenda> no .tgz
[12:11] <AntMaz> root poop
[12:11] <korhalf> why bother compiling?
[12:11] <jenda> BioVorE: Is that the same?
[12:11] <korhalf> download the .deb packages
[12:11] <BioVorE> yup
[12:11] <korhalf> or get gent00
[12:11] <AntMaz> i dont hink so kyo
[12:11] <GarBhaD> tar.gz is the same than tgz
[12:11] <navarone> Kyo I dunno...I have just used my isp's servers pop and smtp...I dunno about setting up servers like yahoo gmail and the like
[12:11] <Kyo> I see
[12:11] <Angel_Dex> wtf is wrong with my sound TT_TT
[12:11] <Kyo> I think I'll just use a webbase email then
[12:12] <jubei> hangfire, is there somewhere in system config to change the supported refresh rates manualy?
[12:12] <GarBhaD> kyo, log into gmail and read the help, they tell you step by step how to setup your e-mail client
[12:12] <navarone> kyo...that is actually more convenient cos you can access it anywhere you havea  computer online
[12:12] <BioVorE> video card monitor settings are defined in /etc/xorg.conf
[12:12] <hangfire> yes, just go into systems config
[12:12] <BioVorE> .  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:12] <AntMaz> help file are very helpful at least with linux
[12:12] <Kyo> ok GarBhaD
[12:13] <AntMaz> with windows they suck
[12:13] <Angel_Dex> is there somthing that explains wtf ESD is and how to get rid of it for good without loosing system sounds?
[12:13] <bimberi> ubotu tell Angel_Dex about esd
[12:14] <AntMaz> is ubotu a bot
[12:14] <Angel_Dex> yes
[12:14] <bimberi> !yourself
[12:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:14] <basic> do any of you watch lost
[12:14] <hangfire> there is no reason to use a text editor to config ubuntu, ubuntu works like windows, do it in the GUI just go to System> preferences>screen resolution
[12:15] <AntMaz> thats cool
[12:15] <basic> you have to use a text editor to get xgl running
[12:15] <navarone> Angel_Dex have you gone to System/Pref/Sound and unchecked the box marked enable sound server?
[12:15] <Kyo> How would I install java runtime for firefox? seems you can't do a automatic plugin
[12:15] <AntMaz> whats xgl
[12:15] <GarBhaD> I need the kernel sources to compile, are they available through packages? is it linux-tree?
[12:15] <AntMaz> ubuntu tell kyo about java
[12:15] <basic> http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[12:15] <midwinter> hangfire, you can only select resolutions there that you have set up previously.
[12:16] <Angel_Dex> navarone that dissables system sounds tho even when i switched to alsa with the multimedia thing
[12:16] <BioVorE> apt-cache search linux-sources
[12:16] <midwinter> besides, config files are the way to go.
[12:16] <midwinter> :)
[12:16] <hangfire> I dont get what you mean, Ive set any resolutions I want there
[12:16] <raphink> AntMaz: xgl is a piece of software that was released not long ago, using OpenGL to improve X
[12:16] <navarone> Angel_Dexi have disabled it and use oss for output and input and have sound...I have a SB live btw
[12:16] <BioVorE> the automagical gui messes stuff up here.. I always have to punt back to a terminal and fix it..
[12:17] <hangfire> its the way to go if your are a certified sys admin
[12:17] <AntMaz> oh
[12:17] <AntMaz> well my pc sucks til i get a job
[12:17] <basic> there are some videos in that link
[12:17] <raphink> AntMaz: very lately, Novell has released compiz, which uses Xgl + xorg to add great effects to X
[12:17] <AntMaz> 600 mhz 256 ram , and 32 mem onboard display so you know it sucks
[12:18] <AntMaz> my hard drives are the onlything thats nice
[12:19] <AntMaz> anyone know other then newegg and tigerdirect were to get motherboard combo's with amd 64
[12:19] <bj_> I still can't get mp3's to play in rythymbox. I DL'd everything I could find in synaptic that had to do with mp3s (univers and multiverse)
[12:19] <navarone> raphink does xgl come by default in dapper?
[12:19] <raphink> navarone: no, thankfully
[12:19] <hangfire> I think VLC is better for audio files
[12:20] <raphink> navarone: xgl has just entered dapper, and it's experimental
[12:20] <navarone> raphink is it still unstable...xgl I mean?
[12:20] <AntMaz> i dont i live xmms , just like winamp
[12:20] <BioVorE> smb_writepage_sync: failed write, wsize=4096, write_ret=-512  <-- Any Ideas on what this is and how to fix it?
[12:20] <Angel_Dex> navarone im doing this how too on how to switch to alsa without having to killesd for sounds withother programs
[12:20] <AntMaz> vlc is good with video
[12:20] <basic> yes very unstable
[12:20] <raphink> navarone: yes it's very unstable so far
[12:20] <basic> it hardly works with fglrx drivers right now
[12:20] <raphink> navarone: but I think it's gonna improve very fast now that compiz is out
[12:20] <basic> have you tried using it raphink?
[12:20] <raphink> basic: I couldn't get it working with my ATI Radeon 9200
[12:21] <basic> ahh
[12:21] <ba> raphael, link to compix?
[12:21] <basic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[12:21] <navarone> raphink what benefits too it? Is it just eye candy?
[12:21] <basic> if you havent seen it
[12:21] <raphink> Ba: how do you mean?
[12:21] <raphink> navarone: yes
[12:21] <AntMaz> raphink how much ram does thathave 512
[12:21] <mama> hello, anybody knows how to get happy?
[12:21] <navarone> hmm...eye candy rots my vision...,s>
[12:21] <raphink> navarone: amazing eye candy though
[12:21] <ba> AntMaz: very lately, Novell has released compiz, which uses Xgl + xorg to add great effects to X
[12:21] <midwinter> mama, lots of ways
[12:22] <raphink> AntMaz: I've got 1024 personally
[12:22] <basic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[12:22] <mama> get me some!!!!!!!! :P
[12:22] <AntMaz> ba i cant use anyhting grapic wise except for half life
[12:22] <mama> some more some more!!!
[12:22] <AntMaz> do you cream yourself when you touch it
[12:22] <ubuntu> cool
[12:22] <midwinter> mama sounds like you've had enough already
[12:22] <ba> raphink, AntMaz: very lately, Novell has released compiz, which uses Xgl + xorg to add great effects to X
[12:22] <SAAD3000> whats the channel name for ubuntu adults?
[12:23] <Angel_Dex> NOW heres a large question is dapper going to use Alsa? i mean if so many pple need to switch to it then why use ESD?
[12:23] <_jason> SAAD3000: ?
[12:23] <raphink> Ba: yes, don't forget the copyright on my quote ;)
[12:23] <steffen> hi, i have problems getting my matrox g400 card to work with dri, i also tried the drivers from matrox, anyone got a hint for me?
[12:24] <SAAD3000> whats the channel name for ubuntu adults?
[12:24] <AntMaz> *cracked my 2000 cd
[12:24] <AntMaz> it was fun and i gave my xp away
[12:24] <ba> SAAD3000, its called #stfu
[12:24] <SAAD3000> ba guess so
[12:24] <AntMaz> i was gonna crack it but the noobs upstairs use it
[12:24] <rachana> when will google talk be available for linux?
[12:24] <AntMaz> how i cout the errors on windows
[12:25] <predius_> in dapper, is there a way to get a normal user to run the xserver?
[12:25] <predius_> i can get xorg running as root, but nothing else.
[12:25] <atoponce> rachanza, it is through the gabber network
[12:25] <Angel_Dex> how do i tell what LIb im missing to play sound in a game?
[12:25] <rehpotsirhc> ubuntu adults? like sexy chat about ubuntu?
[12:25] <bimberi> rachana: you can use gaim
[12:25] <Angel_Dex> lol
[12:25] <_jason> rachana: I believe gaim lets you use google talk
[12:25] <rachana> but i want to talk
[12:25] <rachana> not chat
[12:25] <predius_> rachana: no
[12:25] <_jason> rachana: you have to ask google that then
[12:25] <SAAD3000> LOL i really lost the name but it was something like that
[12:25] <dereks> rachana: psi lets you use libjingle
[12:26] <Pigmej> Anyone knows how to setup Gaim2 to work with GoogleTalk?
[12:26] <raphink> rachana: when will google write _any_ program for linux is the right question ;)
[12:26] <rachana> dereks using psi can we talk ?
[12:26] <dereks> raphink: they released libjingle which works for linux
[12:26] <AntMaz> what the hell is google talk
[12:26] <dereks> rachana: you can use the VOIP capabilities
[12:26] <dereks> with libjingle
[12:26] <raphink> rachana: using psi jingle, yes but that's experimental
[12:26] <atoponce> raphink, google is in the makes now to release much of the google pack software for linux
[12:26] <Lie-Algebra> hi, I have set my fstab to mount my usbkey as a user (option user) but I am obliged to mount it as root so that it works, what is the matter ?
[12:26] <bimberi> AntMaz: google it :P
[12:27] <AntMaz> im lazy
[12:27] <bimberi> :)
[12:27] <raphink> atoponce: oh really?
[12:27] <raphink> I don't trust all the things that are said about google
[12:27] <raphink> there are too many people dreaming about google and telling stupid things
[12:27] <rachana> raphink: how to get psi jingle?
[12:27] <Hysty> the google dev team is full of practical jokers
[12:27] <dereks> rachana: psi-im.org
[12:27] <AntMaz> i looked
[12:27] <rachana> ok
[12:27] <dereks> follow instructions there
[12:27] <predius_> dereks: they'll be a gogle pack for linux?
[12:27] <Pigmej> Anyone knows how to setup Gaim2 to work with GoogleTalk?
[12:27] <Hysty> who the hell would know what was really going on
[12:27] <predius_> don't think so
[12:28] <atoponce> raphink, good point, but google is puting out a goobuntu.  that has been officially announced....
[12:28] <raphink> atoponce: see that gubuntu annonce for example, that everybody tallked baout
[12:28] <AntMaz> pigmej google it
[12:28] <dereks> atoponce: find the official anouncement
[12:28] <raphink> atoponce: no they aren't
[12:28] <dereks> atoponce: there is no official announcement
[12:28] <Pigmej> I lok for it but i dont find it
[12:28] <AntMaz> google talk on linux
[12:28] <raphink> atoponce: canonical already released goobuntu for google
[12:28] <_jason> Pigmej: if you search google help they have instructions
[12:28] <atoponce> i thought there was....
[12:28] <Hysty> there was an official unanouncement
[12:28] <raphink> atoponce: and it's for their internal use
[12:28] <Pigmej> On 1.5x it works perfect but on 2 i vahe connection error:|
[12:28] <raphink> only
[12:28] <_jason> Pigmej: oh
[12:28] <dereks> goobuntu = google's interneal distribution, most likely with lots of propietery things
[12:28] <raphink> Hysty: there was an official announcment that Google was using an OS based on Ubuntu and called Goobuntu
[12:29] <atoponce> raphink, i knew that, but it's only time
[12:29] <raphink> there was never an annoncement that it was to be distributed for the public
[12:29] <_jason> Pigmej: try #gaim, maybe it is a bug
[12:29] <predius_> goobuntu = based on redhat then?
[12:29] <predius_> because googles internal distro is based on something like redhat 5.0
[12:29] <raphink> predius_: goobuntu is based on ubuntu and made by canonical
[12:29] <dereks> predius_: no its based on damn small linux
[12:29] <dereks> on that note
[12:29] <dereks> i am leaving
[12:29] <dereks> chow
[12:29] <AntMaz> really google everything
[12:29] <GarBhaD> ubuntu installed a 386 optimized kernel by default, but searching with synaptic I found a k7 optimized
[12:29] <bimberi> dereks: ciao
[12:30] <GarBhaD> if I want to use it, I just have to install the package?
[12:30] <raphink> GarBhaD: yep
[12:30] <atoponce> not an official announcemnt, but good enough for me
[12:30] <atoponce> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/
[12:30] <raphink> GarBhaD: exactly, and reboot
[12:30] <GarBhaD> I mean, there's no need to do anything else?
[12:30] <GarBhaD> how cool1
[12:30] <GarBhaD> now, that's user friendly ;)
[12:30] <raphink> atoponce: many weird things have been said about goobuntu that are not true
[12:31] <raphink> atoponce: I think I know people who know quite enough about whether this is a fake announcement or not :p
[12:31] <GarBhaD> why do you want a goobuntu if you already have ubuntu??
[12:31] <AntMaz> fuclk yea take over microsoft
[12:31] <raphink> GarBhaD: I don't
[12:31] <mzuverink> What is the command to kill gnome panels?
[12:31] <raphink> GarBhaD: some people dream about google every night it seems ;)
[12:31] <AntMaz> n a possible bid to take on Microsoft in its core business - desktop software.
[12:31] <atoponce> GarBhaD, my point is google is working on releasing linux software.  that's all
[12:31] <atoponce> raphink, i know i do.  :)
[12:32] <raphink> google is not releasing a linux distro
[12:32] <_jason> mzuverink: killall gnome-panel
[12:32] <atoponce> famous last words
[12:32] <mzuverink> _jason: thanks
[12:32] <AntMaz> i wish ubuntu would crash i miss the blue screen of death and the seriuos error , dont sed or sed
[12:32] <AntMaz> send'
[12:33] <AntMaz> thats my background now
[12:33] <_jason> AntMaz: get the BSOD screensaver
[12:33] <KerPlunk_> If I try to install wifi-radar on a debian/unstable system will it install?
[12:33] <Fred> my server has a 2.20 server load, but i cant see what's using all the cpu time in top. is there another way of seeing what's using all the cpu?
[12:33] <avar> AntMaz: put this in your cron.daily
[12:33] <AntMaz> where can i get that or is it in there allready
[12:33] <avar> #!/bin/bash
[12:33] <avar> cat /dev/urandom > /proc/kcore
[12:33] <AntMaz> cron.daily ?(cronic
[12:34] <tatters> Directory index forbidden by rule: /var/www-ssl/html/   <--- how do I correct this?
[12:34] <avar> change the rul
[12:34] <avar> e
[12:34] <avar> .
[12:34] <raphink> better use crontab -e to make cron entries
[12:34] <tatters> yah
[12:34] <Angel_Dex> TT_TT i really really really hate the sound crap in ubuntu i really doo
[12:34] <tatters> Y didnt I think of that
[12:34] <AntMaz> thats for mac erorrs
[12:35] <tatters> but what rule ?
[12:35] <menchi> Hey all. Has anyone else had issues with broken sudo, or whatever ubuntu defaults to using?
[12:35] <AntMaz> oh nice it has windows ones two
[12:35] <zebraFusion> does apache need any other ports opened besides 80?
[12:35] <zebraFusion> Because I still can't connect to my apache box remotely
[12:35] <atoponce> zebraFusion, do you have port 80 open in your firewall?
[12:35] <raphink> zebraFusion: how about checking your router?
[12:35] <dabaR> menchi: I am sure someone has. ask away
[12:36] <_jason> menchi: elaborate on ``broken sudo''
[12:36] <NetGeek> anyone using xgl here
[12:36] <zebraFusion> raphink, that's what I did... I unblocked port 80 on my router (firewall)
[12:36] <AntMaz> im gonna watch that screen saver and masterbate
[12:36] <raphink> NetGeek: xgl is highly experimental
[12:36] <kbrosnan> Kyo, it is a little minimalistic but http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java
[12:36] <atoponce> zebraFusion, and it's pointing to the right ip on your network?
[12:36] <tatters> https uses a different port to http
[12:36] <AntMaz> so anyone recommend trying half life in wine
[12:37] <NetGeek> raphink: I got it working, but was wondering if you can make your gnome-panel transparent
[12:37] <zebraFusion> atoponce, yes, I unblocked it for the correct ip (the only one currently on the network)
[12:37] <raphink> NetGeek: no idea, I don't use gnome
[12:37] <atoponce> zebraFusion, how are you trying to connect remotely?
[12:37] <NetGeek> AntMaz: Celedga 5.1 just added support for Half-Life2
[12:38] <naetrick> Anyone here set up MythTV?
[12:38] <GarBhaD> thanks for everything (restarting to install k7 kernel)
[12:38] <AntMaz> nice
[12:38] <zebraFusion> atoponce: http://my.ip
[12:38] <naetrick> I have it set up, but it won't record anything, even when I press 'R' on a program
[12:38] <menchi> Welll... Whenever I try to trigger anything that requires root priveledges, it prompts me for a pass, the dissapears. When I run in a term, it says (time-admin:905): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:38] <menchi> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:38] <Angel_Dex> can anyone explain to me why linux has sound problems when running diff apps when windows doesnt>? its baout the only thing im hating on linux
[12:38] <AntMaz> ill have to get that after i upgrade my hardware
[12:38] <raphink> zebraFusion: hmm let's see
[12:38] <zebraFusion> the server works locally, as http://localhost works (using Firefox through VNC)
[12:38] <atoponce> zebraFusion, have you setup virtual directories?
[12:38] <zebraFusion> atoponce, are you referring to /var/www ?
[12:39] <raphink> zebraFusion: 80/tcp filtered http
[12:39] <AntMaz> virtual network cup
[12:39] <raphink> zebraFusion: it's still filtered somewhere it seems
[12:39] <AntMaz> its java based
[12:39] <Fred> is there another way of seeing what's using all the cpu of my box apart from top?
[12:39] <zebraFusion> raphink, that what seems to be my problem.
[12:39] <atoponce> zebraFusion, nope.  talking about the default file in the sites-enabled directory
[12:39] <iBalo> Angel_Dex: read about soundservers (esd, jack)
[12:39] <raphink> indeed zebraFusion
[12:40] <Angel_Dex> iBalo linux cookbook have that stuff?
[12:40] <zebraFusion> atoponce, no... I haven't... I just apt-got apache2, installed php5 and threw some files in the var/www
[12:40] <atoponce> zebraFusion, you'll need something to handle your ip address or domain.
[12:40] <raphink> zebraFusion: really it seems to be your router
[12:40] <AntMaz> damn spaztic gerbil
[12:40] <zebraFusion> atoponce, do I need to do something else?
[12:40] <zebraFusion> atoponce, I have a no-ip account that handles my dynamic ip, if that's what you're referring to
[12:41] <raphink> zebraFusion: can you try an nmap -p 80 localhost?
[12:41] <atoponce> zebraFusion, yeah.  you need to setup virtual directories.  hold on, and i'll get a good tutorial link for you
[12:41] <dabaR> a fusion with a zebra?
[12:41] <AntMaz> anyone know of a good program other then freesco , that runs on a linux OS
[12:41] <xerophyte> http://img2.uploadimages.net/show.php?img=637933network.gif i have this network .. i am trying to ping 192.168.0.10 to 192.168.2.2 .. i am not able to but i can ping 192.168.0.1 from 192.168.2.2 .. what am i missing
[12:42] <AntMaz> its a router program
[12:42] <_jason> menchi: what does 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal do?
[12:42] <atoponce> zebraFusion: http://www.petersblog.org/node/840
[12:42] <Barry> menchi, displays hi
[12:42] <AntMaz> anyone know of a good program other then freesco , that runs on a linux OS
[12:42] <AntMaz> anyone know of a good program other then freesco , that runs on a linux OS
[12:43] <AntMaz> its a router program
[12:43] <Barry> menchi, you don;t need to run it as root though
[12:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell AntMaz about repeat
[12:43] <raphink> xerophyte: what a mess
[12:43] <iBalo> dunno... If you are running gnome, make sure that in System-Settings-Audio the 'start sondserver with gnome' is checked and possibly make all audio-apps use that, instaed hogging the soundcard exclusively.. also google for a decent .asoundrc
[12:43] <menchi> Barry, it doesn't accept my pass o.o
[12:43] <raphink> xerophyte: I think you should reset your network to get something quite logical
[12:43] <_jason> Barry: we are troubleshooting some issues he is having with sudo
[12:43] <xerophyte> raphink, yes tesing something :)
[12:43] <AntMaz> i hit enter twice acidentally
[12:43] <thor> ok, i really need wireless router tips. i have ndiswrapper installed w/ a driver for my card on it and it still wont work
[12:43] <Barry> _jason, menchi, oh :(
[12:43] <dabaR> xerophyte: can you ping 2.2 to 0.10?
[12:43] <ubuntu> \join #ubuntu-fr
[12:44] <xerophyte> dabaR, thats problem
[12:44] <BarryContrary> AntMaz: I know of one. He (sadly) does much of his programming in Windoze, but prefers Linux and all his web work is done there.
[12:44] <nny> rikai: you around?
[12:44] <menchi> Barry, I unsu'd
[12:44] <_jason> ubotu: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:44] <ubotu> _jason: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:44] <xerophyte> dabaR, i can ping from 2.2 to 0.1
[12:44] <_jason> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:44] <dabaR> xerophyte: can you ping 0.10 to 2.2?
[12:44] <Angel_Dex> honestly im thinking about giving linux up cuz this sound problem TT_TT
[12:44] <BarryContrary> AntMaz: He recently did some embedded Linux control software.
[12:44] <daemon2> evening
[12:44] <xerophyte> dabaR, nop
[12:44] <Bean> dreamweaver replacement: Bluefish or Nvu ?
[12:44] <AntMaz> is that right
[12:44] <raphink> xerophyte: isn't 0.1 a switch/hub?
[12:44] <raphink> huh
[12:44] <_jason> menchi: does that command say 'hi' or give you any errors?
[12:45] <raphink> doh
[12:45] <raphink> I need to sleep
[12:45] <Barry> Angel_Dex, there are ways to fix the sound issues, but they are quite involved... search the wiki/forums/tldp
[12:45] <raphink> saying stupid things
[12:45] <AntMaz> so it acts as a router if you have sevral nics installed
[12:45] <Bean> For html/css/php site coding
[12:45] <raphink> lol
[12:45] <tyler> how do i play a  cdrom in linux?
[12:45] <menchi> _jason, it does nothing. It won't accept my password
[12:45] <Angel_Dex> Barry I switched to alsa already and i stil have conflicts TT_TT
[12:45] <iBalo> Angel_Dex: The rule is 'Learn or Leave' :P
[12:45] <Barry> tyler, define play?
[12:45] <dabaR> xerophyte: your 2.1 has also 1.x?
[12:45] <thor> got any wireless router tips? anyone....
[12:45] <xerophyte> raphink, its router .. and 192.168.0.30 also a reouter
[12:45] <menchi> erm, therefore it does something
[12:45] <atoponce> thor, what are you trying to accomplish?
[12:45] <raphink> tyler: if it's a windows CDROM you can try to deal with it with xine
[12:45] <tyler> as in listen to mp3?
[12:45] <raphink> wine
[12:45] <_jason> menchi: is this the account you created during install?
[12:45] <raphink> argh
[12:45] <tyler> burnt onto a cd
[12:45] <raphink> doh
[12:45] <thor> atoponce: get my wifi working
[12:45] <menchi> yeppers, _jason
[12:46] <rikai> nny, sure am.
[12:46] <rikai> nny, just got back.
[12:46] <AntMaz> barry were did you go
[12:46] <raphink> tyler: well then just put the cdrom in the tray and close :)
[12:46] <xerophyte> dabaR, 2.1 and 1.1 both are routers
[12:46] <shane__> ubotu
[12:46] <atoponce> thor, on your linux box?
[12:46] <daemon2> I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?
[12:46] <thor> yeah
[12:46] <shane__> !sources
[12:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:46] <Barry> Angel_Dex, AFAIK the best way is to get a card that does hardware mixing... I do not know too much about sound as mine "Just Works (tm)"
[12:46] <thor> atoponce: yes
[12:46] <atoponce> thor, if you find anything, let me know.  i am struggling with the same issue.  :)
[12:46] <raphink> tyler: then open your favorite music app and listen to it ;)
[12:46] <_jason> menchi: paste the output of 'groups'
[12:46] <Angel_Dex> Barry built in sound XP
[12:46] <BarryContrary> Hello, all. I have an old laptop running Ubuntu, and a desktop running WinXP. Both are connected to a Netgear router and have stable IPs. How do I activate, say, FTP or Telnet on my Ubuntu box so I can get to files on it from XP?
[12:46] <dabaR> xerophyte: it is too hard for me/
[12:46] <thor> atoponce: haha, thanks for the help ;)
[12:46] <atoponce> :)
[12:47] <menchi> _jason, "groups"?
[12:47] <_jason> menchi: it's a command, just put it in a terminal
[12:47] <tyler> dont i have to mount it or something?
[12:47] <atoponce> thor, i thought you might want tips about securing your wifi, or the such
[12:47] <xerophyte> dadaR the box in the middle of both router its linux server
[12:47] <tyler> i use mplayer...
[12:47] <thor> atoponce: you have ndiswrapper and a driver installed?
[12:47] <menchi> mmhm smackywolf adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[12:47] <atoponce> thor, yeah.  i have a broadcom driver-based card
[12:47] <thor> atoponce: no, i just need to get it working
[12:47] <thor> atoponce: same here
[12:47] <_jason> BarryContrary: I would suggest ssh instead, and use winSCP on the windows box
[12:47] <atoponce> thor, me too
[12:47] <iBalo> BarryContrary: you know what samba is? (No, I'm not talking off half-naked brazilian girls :-) )
[12:48] <thor> atoponce: is it a linksys?
[12:48] <BarryContrary> iBalo: No, I don't. I've heard of it.
[12:48] <AntMaz> what about full naked brazillian transexuals ha
[12:48] <iBalo> !samba
[12:48] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:48] <BarryContrary> _jason: How do I do that?
[12:48] <atoponce> thor, i know they reverse engineered a broadcom driver for linux and have it working
[12:48] <adub> can someone help me get monitor mode working on my orinoco gold classic card
[12:48] <daemon2> I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?
[12:48] <daemon2> I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?
[12:48] <naetrick> I have it set up, but it won't record anything, even when I press 'R' on a program
[12:48] <Barry> daemon2, don't ask to ask
[12:49] <daemon2> I would have a wired network card based question, anyone who is willing to help me?
[12:49] <atoponce> thor, you just have to get the latest kernel sources and compile it into the kernel (pain in the butt)
[12:49] <_jason> BarryContrary: ah yeah, samba is a better solution, listen to iBalo.  I'll send you the link on ssh anyway so you can read about it (it is more similar to ftp and telnet)
[12:49] <naetrick> (mythtv) Anybody know why this might be happening?
[12:49] <thor> atoponce: yeah i saw that website but i didnt know what the heck they were talking about since i just switched from xp a couple days ago
[12:49] <iBalo> BarryContrary: get the link from ubotu
[12:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell BarryContrary about ssh
[12:49] <BarryContrary> iBalo: Thanks.
[12:49] <BarryContrary> _jason: Thanks.
[12:49] <BarryContrary> iBalo: Thanks.
[12:49] <iBalo> np :-)
[12:49] <thor> atoponce: i have a driver installed on ndiswrapper and all my settings configured bu it still doesnt work
[12:49] <menchi> THor, what sort of a lappy do you have?
[12:49] <atoponce> thor, do you get an error?
[12:50] <menchi> Erm.. If you have a lappy >.>
[12:50] <Barry> thor, what does this command output? : ndiswrapper -l
[12:50] <AntMaz> barry do you code with php
[12:50] <_jason> menchi: you are not in the admin group, that is why you do not have sudo access
[12:50] <Barry> AntMaz, yes why?
[12:50] <Tinbasher> is there a way to add a hotmail account to evolution mail client?
[12:50] <thor> menchi: a pc
[12:50] <menchi> Aw :(
[12:50] <thor> atoponce: no, it doesnt connect at all
[12:50] <AntMaz> you use jedit
[12:50] <naetrick> thor: What's the problem? I should be able to help, I use ndiswrapper
[12:50] <Barry> AntMaz, no gedit
[12:50] <_jason> menchi: did you do an expert install?
[12:50] <menchi> _jason,
[12:50] <menchi> I think so.
[12:50] <thor> Barry: wmp54gs driver present, hardware present
[12:51] <_jason> menchi: so you setup root during the install?
[12:51] <AntMaz> i installed jedit on here
[12:51] <AntMaz> ubuntu
[12:51] <menchi> Root works, yes.
[12:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell menchi about expert
[12:51] <Barry> AntMaz, ... well done?
[12:51] <menchi> thanks <3
[12:51] <AntMaz> know of any compiling software other then apache
[12:51] <naetrick> thor: Did you set your ESSID correctly?
[12:51] <AntMaz> im just saying if you want to use that instead you could
[12:51] <daemon2> I have a RTL 8139 network card, onboard in an ASUS 5028, if I reboot from XP to Linux it works OK, but if I shut down, and then turn it on it is not working. Can not figure it out why. Autonegotiation does not succeed. already tried fixed 10/100 HD/FD modes manually. No luck. The machine on the other end of the cable says Network Cable unplugged.
[12:52] <thor> naetrick: i have driver installed for my wifi card, network settings configured, the works, i press connect , it takes a while and says enabled but no internet
[12:52] <Barry> AntMaz, thanks but I am fine with gedit :D
[12:52] <thor> naetrick: yeah, is there a difference of ESSID and SSID?
[12:52] <naetrick> thor: same thing :)
[12:52] <thor> naetrick: ok then yeah
[12:52] <AntMaz> ok but jedit doesnt have those pretty colors in ubuntu
[12:52] <menchi> _jason, you win with the internets <3
[12:52] <AntMaz> gedit does haha
[12:53] <Barry> daemon2, it sounds like windows loads some magic firmware that is persistant.... you will be better searching the forums for your specific network card
[12:53] <_jason> menchi: great :)
[12:53] <naetrick> thor: Try this: "sudo apt-get install dhcpcd;dhcpcd wlan0", or replace wlan0 with what your card is registered as
[12:53] <naetrick> and make that "sudo dhcpcd wlan0"
[12:53] <thor> naetrick: alright one sec...
[12:53] <iBalo> daemon2: this sounds lke your nic is requiring some firmware at boottime... it' still there if you warm-boot from xp, but gone if you just run ubuntu
[12:53] <AntMaz> i have a realtek 8139
[12:53] <menchi> _jason, now stab stepmania and make it compile =/
[12:54] <Harp> Stepmania!!
[12:54] <_jason> menchi: what is stepmania?
[12:54] <Harp> There's a open source stepmania?!
[12:54] <IdleOne> how do I create an image of my hard drive so I can back up / reinstall later?
[12:54] <steve60> morning/afternoon/evening which ever the case maybe
[12:54] <Chai> hello everyone
[12:54] <AntMaz> whats stepmania
[12:54] <naetrick> IdleOne: "dd if=/dev/hd* of=hdimage.img"
[12:55] <midwinter> you dont want to know.
[12:55] <iBalo> IdleOne: check partition image (partimage)
[12:55] <menchi> _jason, a DDR game for PC.
[12:55] <jtacy> daemon2: does the driver load ok according to dmesg?
[12:55] <_jason> menchi: oh
[12:55] <atoponce> AntMaz, google it :)
[12:55] <menchi> Harp, Stepmania IS opensource XP
[12:55] <Harp> stepmania is a game where you use your feet to step on these arrows on a map :D
[12:55] <steve60> anyone know of any cool application i can get for ubuntu
[12:55] <AntMaz> you sound like my cousin
[12:55] <Harp> mat*
[12:55] <atoponce> thx
[12:55] <naetrick> IdleOne: You can change the various settings to make it faster (man dd). It reads bytes from /dev/hd* (if) and writes them to file (of),
[12:55] <naetrick> thor: What do you get?
[12:55] <thor> naetrick: i get a bunch of "couldn't stat source package list errors
[12:56] <menchi> Harp, the only reason it's not in apt is because of the legal issues with the music
[12:56] <iBalo> daemon2: it's just common sense, i can't help you in detail
[12:56] <IdleOne> naetrick:  how do I write them to cd?
[12:56] <AntMaz> me and him talk about nerdy things for hours
[12:56] <[MilMazz] > Buenas
[12:56] <daemon2> The wierd thing is that today morning i turned it on and went straight to ubuntu. Worked...
[12:56] <AntMaz> if i give him a question he says google it
[12:56] <yanimax> is it possible to remove a search engine from the google bar ?
[12:56] <daemon2> the other end detected network cable plugged in while i was in the grub menu....
[12:57] <naetrick> IdleOne: You mean directly? You could just write the image to file and then burn it...
[12:57] <iBalo> daemon2: whta does dmeg tell you?
[12:57] <steve60> anyone know of and app that will stream Shoutcast in ubuntu or live tv
[12:57] <iBalo> daemon2: what does dmesg tell you?
[12:57] <AntMaz> i tried installing ubuntu on this dell i have with two nic cards and it crashed
[12:57] <oklinux> how do I check to see what version of ubuntu I installed ?
[12:57] <IdleOne> naetrick:  ok and later on when I want to re install I just pop the cd ?
[12:57] <AntMaz> system about ubuntu
[12:58] <midwinter> oklinux: cat /etc/issue
[12:58] <AntMaz> i was guessing
[12:58] <steve60> !shoutcast
[12:58] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, steve60
[12:59] <IdleOne> naetrick:  what I want is to install Suse to try it out but if I dont like Suse I dont want to have to configure ubuntu all over again
[01:00] <sm> bah.. is there a better newsreader than thunderbird ?
[01:00] <ubuntu> anyone try ubunto with vmware?
[01:00] <OmegaAlpha> How do i get access to my external harddrive?
[01:00] <nickrud> sm I like pan for newreading myself
[01:01] <_jason> menchi: how far have you gotten in the build process
[01:01] <menchi> _jason, I have gotten to make, and all goes well, then it just randomly exploded, giving some error or another
[01:01] <steve60> anyone know if a player that will stream shoutcast and live TV
[01:01] <menchi> I;m trying again
[01:01] <iBalo> !mplayer
[01:02] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:02] <menchi> I got the files clean again, and started from scratch, but this time with all dependancies satisfied.
[01:02] <rachana> ubotu movies
[01:02] <ubotu> rachana: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:02] <rachana> ubotu video
[01:02] <ubotu> rachana: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:03] <_jason> menchi: ok lets race to the error, I'm compiling it too
[01:03] <iBalo> !codecs
[01:03] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:03] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to build something and I'm getting an error saying that "msgfmt" is not found. Is there a package that covers this?
[01:03] <rachana> how to play video in ubuntu anyone
[01:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell rachana about multimedia
[01:03] <menchi> It's coming... it might actually work this time =/
[01:03] <menchi> FOUND IT! :D
[01:03] <menchi> =/
[01:03] <_jason> menchi: hrmm
[01:03] <steve60> rachana, try getting the w32 codecs
[01:04] <omni> damn, ubuntu kernal update has messed my wireless up bad
[01:04] <IdleOne> naetrick: dd: opening `/dev/hd*': No such file or directory
[01:04] <steve60> "streaming
[01:04] <daemon2> I really dont know where to ask. is there some kind of a developer forum?
[01:04] <steve60> !streaming
[01:04] <ubotu> steve60: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:04] <adub> how can i determine what firmware my orinoco pcmcia card is running
[01:05] <menchi> _jason, I tried PMing to you, but I couldn't
[01:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell menchi about register
[01:05] <menchi> owell. LuaFunctions.h:10:20: error: lualib.h: No such file or directory is the major bit
[01:05] <naetrick> IdleOne: Replace * with your hard drive partition letter you want to make the image of
[01:05] <menchi> FFS, that was the first one I installed
[01:06] <_jason> menchi: did you install the -dev package for it?  my compile is still going
[01:06] <menchi> Just doing that now =/
[01:06] <menchi> I;m such a dumbass
[01:06] <IdleOne> naetrick:  I dont know which letter that would be
[01:06] <jtacy> daemon2: I wonder if the implementation of that chipset on that board is slightly non-standard...I'm assuming you googled to see if other people have had the same problem
[01:07] <Madpilot> daemon2: #ubuntu-devel channel
[01:07] <sm> nickrud: thanks.. has development stopped ?
[01:07] <nickrud> sm, so I hear, but it works well anyway
[01:08] <sm> thunderbird has forgotten which messages I've read, again
[01:08] <sm> and in solidarity, firefox has just forgotten my url history
[01:09] <menchi> _jason, if I tried to compile the first time, and it failed, do I have to get the source again, or can I just try with the same files?
[01:09] <jtacy> daemon2: I would get an e100 and save myself the headache...these cheapo onboard chipsets aren't worth dealing with
[01:09] <_jason> menchi: make clean, then start again from ./configure
[01:09] <menchi> OK, thanks
[01:09] <jtacy> daemon2: the only "fix" would be to write vendor-specific hacks into the drivers...that's not a maintainable solution
[01:09] <_jason> menchi: ha I jsut got your error
[01:09] <iBalo> sm, might it be that your TB and FF proflies reside on a vfat partition?
[01:09] <menchi> Heheh.
[01:10] <Fred> is there a way of forcing a umount of a NFS export?
[01:10] <jtacy> daemon2: ohhh, it's a laptop? no wonder
[01:10] <sm> no iBalo, they're on ext3
[01:10] <sm> nickrud: do you use pan with gmane ? it's not showing me the groups
[01:10] <jtacy> daemon2: I think the laptop engineers have contests to find out who can create the most backwards design...have you tried any bios updates or anything?
[01:11] <menchi> _jason, compiling stresses me. BRB
[01:11] <nickrud> sm yes I do
[01:11] <sm> ah.. here they are
[01:12] <naetrick> IdleOne: Hmm... how many partitions do you have?
[01:12] <IdleOne> 1
[01:12] <jtacy> daemon2: there's always the possibility that the rtl8139 driver maintainer has already integrated a hack to make this work...you might just need to compile that custom module against the kernel
[01:12] <tatters> how do I know who or what own a folder?
[01:13] <sm> nickrud: thanks, I'll give it a try
[01:13] <nickrud> tatters, from the desktop, right click->properties->permissions
[01:13] <skander> hi tatters.... type in a console ls -la so see who or what is owning a file
[01:13] <nickrud> tatters, in a terminal, ls -ld <dir>
[01:13] <naetrick> IdleOne: Try typing "sudo fdisk /dev/hda", and then "p". Then find the partition number whose type is "Linux"
[01:13] <tatters> k thnx
[01:13] <jtacy> daemon2: or try the latest kernel...it could be frustrating to fix
[01:13] <naetrick> that will be the partition you want to use, if you want your main partition backed up
[01:13] <ryanakca> hmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots
[01:13] <_jason> tatters: so many choices huh
[01:13] <ryanakca> is it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?
[01:14] <skander> ;)
[01:14] <IdleOne> naetrick:  /dev/hda1
[01:14] <adub> something is not right everytime i try to compile orinoco drivers that im downloading from the web the compile crashes
[01:14] <steve60> does anyone know how i can play streaming live videos in firefox
[01:14] <damnhil> Does anyone use xawtv or motv?
[01:14] <steve60> and what codecs i need
[01:15] <damnhil> steve60: you need mplayer
[01:15] <tilos> naetrick, fdisk -l will show you list of your partitions
[01:15] <naetrick> IdleOne: Ok, then that's the one you want :) Unless there are other partitions whose system is "Linux"
[01:15] <_jason> steve60: mplayer plugin with w32codecs will play most
[01:15] <skander> steve... just apt-get install mplayer and its plugins (also for firefox)
[01:15] <tilos> naetrick, df -h will show you where did you mount them
[01:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell steve60 about mplayer
[01:15] <IdleOne> naetrick:  thats the only one
[01:15] <naetrick> tilos: Thanks, forgot about that :)
[01:15] <damnhil> steve60: you have to configure /etc/apt/source.list. Mplayer-mozilla plugin has memory leak. I am warning you
[01:15] <steve60> i mean from firefox browser not mplayer
[01:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell steve60 about w32codecs
[01:15] <ryanakca> anyone?
[01:15] <jtacy> daemon2: it might be interesting to see if a livecd distro exhibits the same problem, just for fun
[01:15] <nickrud> Steil, sudo apt-gert instal mozilla-mplayer
[01:15] <naetrick> IdleOne: Ok, now before you do "dd", make sure you have at least the same amount of space free as is used on the partition
[01:16] <damnhil> steve: Install mplayer-mozilla plugin
[01:16] <skander> steve... yu need the mplayer plkugin for firefox
[01:16] <nickrud> damnhil, really? a leak!
[01:16] <skander> then it will play ;)
[01:16] <steve60> thanx ppl
[01:16] <damnhil> nickrud: It happened to me once. I almost filled my memory
[01:17] <ryanakca> is it something wrong with the log in manager itself or the config files or what?
[01:17] <steve60> what happens if it fills ya memory
[01:17] <nickrud> damnhil, I have a leak somewhere here, that's something to look at
[01:17] <menchi> _jason, it's still going o.o
[01:17] <nickrud> steve60, the kernel will start killing processes left and right
[01:17] <sm> gosh it's a long time since I tried a new newsreader
[01:17] <naetrick> steve60: Linux is good with that. It shouldn't do too much harm... worst case you'll run out of RAM and your swap will fill up. That's the worst that has happened to me :)
[01:17] <sm> look at all the pretty lights :)
[01:18] <daemon2> after 8 hours of sleeping it worked
[01:18] <steve60> the ay it was siad then sounded like it would kill my machine
[01:18] <jtacy> daemon2: I would suspect something in the power management because that's where they typically screw up laptops
[01:19] <skander> I cant install transcode on my Ubuntu 5.04 installation....
[01:19] <adub> can someone help me get the orinoco drivers to compile correctly
[01:19] <ryanakca> hmmm... I'm having trouble with my login screen... I've properly configured me /etc/X11/xorg.conf with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and my user session works, but the login screen is viewable, and recognisable, except that theres 5-6 thin vertical yellow lines that are formed of small dots
[01:19] <ryanakca> is it something wrong with the login manager itself or the config files or what?
[01:19] <steve60> now i got that anyone know of a streaming live shoutcast player?
[01:19] <tatters> ive been trying to setup sll on apache2 server everything seems to work apart from an error when I try access the ssl site->>Directory index forbidden by rule: /var/www-ssl/html/
[01:19] <menchi> steve60, try XMMS
[01:19] <nickrud> steve60, try streamtuner, and maybe use beep-media-player or xmms as the player
[01:20] <tatters> im not sure what rule is affecting it
[01:20] <jtacy> daemon2: I wonder if you can alter those settings in the bios? other than that, try a usb ethernet, some work in linux
[01:20] <steve60> thanx
[01:20] <menchi> nickrud, I just used a normal XMMS install, and I can listen to streams =/ go figure
[01:20] <jtacy> daemon2: you could certainly compile a kernel without apm or acpi
[01:20] <nickrud> menchi, streamtuner is a nice way to browse streams, that's all
[01:20] <jtacy> daemon2: but I think that's a compile-time option
[01:20] <skander> is mencoder the same as transcode? would need to convert vrom g3p to mpg (SonyErricson)
[01:20] <menchi> nickrud, cool :)
[01:22] <iBalo> be afraid!
[01:22] <Kyo> any guide to enhance the security of ubunut?
[01:22] <menchi> iBalo, I'm more afraid because it seems to be working o.o
[01:22] <iBalo> Kyo: don't touch anything
[01:22] <crab> amarok won't start for me.  how do I go about troubleshooting?  It just hangs :(
[01:22] <skander> Somebody knows how to convert 3gp files (playable in RealPlayer) to MPG (MPEG-1)?
[01:23] <Kyo> iBalo, hmm..
[01:23] <Kyo> why not
[01:23] <OmegaAlpha> lol i just got ignored in the linux channel
[01:23] <OmegaAlpha> fragging cocky nerds
[01:23] <skander> me too.....
[01:23] <OmegaAlpha> grrr i hate ppl like that
[01:23] <phos-phoros> is it true, that in Heaven every day is Christmas?
[01:23] <midwinter> OmegaAlpha, check your status window
[01:23] <skander> nobody is answering to my questions
[01:23] <djp> does anyone know that if you use the following tip, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456&highlight=overscan, will it enable overscan for output to the tv (for movies etc)? otherwise am i better off using nvtv?
[01:23] <crab> sure, why not.  of course it's Christmas every day
[01:24] <OmegaAlpha> skander you were in that channel to?
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !W32codecs
[01:24] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:24] <erisco> is it true that you can configure your system to use hard drive space if there is not enough RAM space?
[01:24] <OmegaAlpha> midwinter, i dont know what a status window is
[01:24] <iBalo> Kyo: by default ubuntu has no running services, thus no open ports. It's a brick wall. Only if you intend to use it as a server, you have to worry about hardening
[01:24] <nbound> !ndiswrapper
[01:24] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:24] <skander> OmegaAlpha... no.. im getting ignored in this channel
[01:24] <OmegaAlpha> i asked a question that relates to that channel... and they are like.. go read a bok
[01:24] <OmegaAlpha> its like why do you think we have these channels jerks..
[01:25] <Kyo> iBalo, oh really ... Hmm. Not even telnet?
[01:25] <midwinter> OmegaAlpha, ah ignore me.
[01:25] <OmegaAlpha> skander r u sure?
[01:25] <nbound> OmegaAlpha, what was ur q?
[01:25] <OmegaAlpha> dont know how to
[01:25] <skander> you are the only one talking to me
[01:25] <yanimax> I'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?
[01:25] <iBalo> Kyo: tel... what?
[01:25] <erisco> is it true that you can configure your system to use hard drive space if there is not enough RAM space?.... any guesses?
[01:25] <OmegaAlpha> how to get my hard drive to show up in FLUXBOX...
[01:25] <Kyo> Telnet.
[01:25] <jvai> llmao!!! qq'n
[01:25] <Kyo> heh
[01:25] <OmegaAlpha> my ext harddrive... that is...
[01:26] <menchi> Hah. My friend has a theory on Ndiswrapper. It's like owning a souped up sportscar, but then getting four guys to put beams under it and carry you places while you yell directions from the drivers seat. It works, but it's kinda retarded.
[01:26] <skander> hm... on the desktop?
[01:26] <nbound> erisco, its called virtual memory its slow and crap, upgrade ur ram :)
[01:26] <nickrud> skander, personally I'm not ignoring you, just don't have even a possible answer :)
[01:26] <skander> ;)
[01:26] <OmegaAlpha> skander, desktop or filemanger.. or even to see it in terminal- media folder
[01:26] <erisco> nbound, it is not possible for me to upgrade my RAM. So this virtual memory is my best option
[01:26] <tatters> anyone use apache2 sll on ubuntu know what ,,Directory index forbidden by rule: means
[01:26] <erisco> nbound, how do I "activate" it?
[01:26] <nbound> OmegaAlpha, hmmm i dunno ive had little interaction with fluxbox, and when i did it was already set up with the hardrive like uve said
[01:26] <OmegaAlpha> it shows up in GNOME no problem... just not with FLUXBOX
[01:26] <tatters> Directory index forbidden by rule: /var/www-ssl/html/
[01:26] <Adri2000> why isn't there flight 4 here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/ ?
[01:27] <skander> which filemanager are you using in FluxBox?
[01:27] <midwinter> erisco, usually you set up swap space on install
[01:27] <nbound> erisco, should be on by default, some proggys wont run if there isnt enough actual ram though
[01:27] <OmegaAlpha> and i dont dare ask this question in #fluxbox theyll bitch at ya lol they are stricktly decorations and placement chats
[01:27] <erisco> nbound, I am not so sure if it is on. Is there a way that I can check?
[01:27] <nbound> and the ones that do.. unless ur just under the req's for it.. will be slow as molasses on a cold morning
[01:28] <midwinter> erisco, type free in a terminal
[01:28] <iBalo> Kyo: it's got a telnet client, but no telnetd... and using telnet instead of ssh anyway is stupid
[01:28] <c13> anyone know how to set configuration of login screen ? the hertz like, the screen resolution
[01:28] <OmegaAlpha> i want to get it seen so i dont have to switch to GNOME everytime i want to burn a cd or watch a movie off my ext hd.. :(
[01:28] <erisco> widwinter, free -m results in 50MB of free space currently
[01:28] <Adri2000> why isn't there dapper flight 4 here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/ ?
[01:29] <erisco> midwinter, I have this, a browser, a terminal, and text editor opened
[01:29] <erisco> I only have 256MB of ram!
[01:29] <Seveas> Adri2000, because there is no flight 4 yet
[01:29] <midwinter> erisco, running gnome?
[01:29] <erisco> midwinter, as in the desktop thingie right? yes
[01:29] <Adri2000> Seveas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4#head-cf4a6bcd57bd762d393a0390bb3345aae3bae49f
[01:29] <tilos> cat /proc/swaps
[01:30] <menchi> erisco, me too. Yet I am listening to music, compiling stepmania, browsing the net, chatting on Gaim and am in IRC. 256mb wins.
[01:30] <erisco> midwinter, are there any things I can do to minimize my RAM usuage?
[01:30] <Kyo> heh
[01:30] <Seveas> Adri2000, read the first 3 words below the title...
[01:30] <midwinter> erisco, probably I would look into using xfce or something instead of gnome
[01:30] <erisco> menchi, are there any things I can do to minimize my ram usage? =\
[01:30] <Adri2000> WORK IN PROGRESS
[01:30] <Adri2000>  oops ok :p
[01:31] <menchi> erisco, it sounds like you are bloated up =/
[01:31] <menchi> gnome is running quite happily for me =/
[01:31] <erisco> menchi, well Linux does take a lot of RAM
[01:31] <tatters> anyone use apache2 sll on ubuntu know what ,,Directory index forbidden by rule: means?
[01:32] <midwinter> it's not linux that does, it's gnome
[01:32] <Madpilot> erisco: Linux uses all the RAM it can find
[01:32] <menchi> SysInfo: Mem: 89/234M [||||||||||] 
[01:32] <midwinter> but it does use ram aggressively but that's not the same thing.
[01:32] <menchi> Not really all that much.
[01:32] <Adri2000> tatters: a rule which doesn't allow directory listing ? :p
[01:32] <ChrisxXx> hey how do i get package manager open via SSH?
[01:32] <erisco> Madpilot, using the gnome desktop, do you know of anythings I could disable to lower my RAM usage?
[01:32] <skander> tatters... maybe its declied by the config file?
[01:32] <menchi> It's using a lot less than windows was doing the same thing.
[01:32] <skander> check the settings for the directory
[01:32] <Madpilot> erisco: not offhand - how much ram do you have?
[01:33] <skander> seems to be the directory listing oiption
[01:33] <erisco> Madpilot... 250
[01:33] <Guillaume> On boot ive got an error on Syncronizing clock ntp.ubuntulinux.org failed.. can you help me please?
[01:33] <ChrisxXx> hey how do i get package manager open via SSH?
[01:33] <menchi> Guillaume, that isn;t much to worry about
[01:33] <Barry> how do I check the stack size of the kernel ? or does anyone know what the ubuntu default is for the xmp kern ?
[01:33] <tatters> but I can browse the directory
[01:33] <Barry> *smp not xmp
[01:33] <Guillaume> menchi: i should disable the service ?
[01:33] <Madpilot> erisco: you could ask about running XFCE on your desktop instead of Gnome
[01:33] <GregAsche> what's the key combo to kill an app open in the terminal?
[01:34] <menchi> it's just that it's trying to synch your clock to the online clock, and failing because your net drivers aren't loaded yet
[01:34] <Madpilot> greg: Ctrl+C
[01:34] <midwinter> GregAsche, ctrl c
[01:34] <menchi> If the error bothers you =/
[01:34] <Adri2000> Guillaume: what sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntulinux.org returns ?
[01:34] <menchi> I get it, too.
[01:34] <GregAsche> thanks
[01:34] <Guillaume> Thx Adri2000 wait a moment
[01:34] <ChrisxXx> hey how do i get package manager open via SSH?
[01:34] <erisco> Madpilot, thanks I will look into that
[01:35] <Mordof> Anyone here play warcraft 3 in wine? i have a few config questions.. first off (how come i cant play 32 bit) secondly, (how do i change the mouse cursor)
[01:35] <_jason> ChrisxXx: use apt-get
[01:35] <Guillaume> Adri2000: 16 Feb 14:35:02 ntpdate[8783] : no server suitable for synchronization found
[01:35] <iBalo> Guillaume: nothing to worry about, it's just tht your internet connection isn't u at boottime. you could use sysv-rc-conf to switch off ntpdate at boot to make the 'failed' go away
[01:35] <ChrisxXx> _jason i dont know the package name
[01:35] <KerPlunk_> !tell Mordof about cedega
[01:35] <djp> anyone know about tv-out, nvidia, nvtv etc?
[01:35] <_jason> ChrisxXx: apt-cache search term1 term2 term3
[01:35] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: /join #cedega
[01:35] <Guillaume> Adri2000: i just disabled UTC because it was desync my windows xp clock
[01:36] <ChrisxXx> okay thanks
[01:36] <ChrisxXx> Cya
[01:36] <Mordof> KerPlunk_, k, thanks
[01:36] <c13> anyone know how to modify the hertz on the login screen?
[01:36] <erisco> Madpilot, just a quick question... how will I actually be able to use this Desktop?
[01:36] <erisco> Madpilot, how would I start it?
[01:36] <Adri2000> Guillaume: i have the same error, i changed the ntp server
[01:36] <Guillaume> I tried to change it but it failed another time
[01:36] <Guillaume> perhaps the server was wrong
[01:36] <Kyo> why is sapper unstable? and when was breezy released?
[01:36] <Guillaume> can you refer me one that work
[01:37] <Madpilot> erisco: XFCE? You can set it up to start automatically, instead of Gnome - but I haven't done that myself, I have more than enough RAM to keep Gnome happy (1Gb...)
[01:37] <Adri2000> /etc/default/ntpdate < you can put here another server which works
[01:37] <erisco> Madpilot... not automatically, but manually
[01:37] <Madpilot> Kyo: Dapper won't be fully released until April - Breezy was released in October
[01:37] <Mordof> KerPlunk_, i thought cedega costed money
[01:37] <_jason> Kyo: breezy was released in 5.10, that is 2005.october.  Dapper will be released in 6.04, 2006.april
[01:37] <erisco> Madpilot, it should not be required to use it all the time, as I can do most things just fine
[01:38] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: it does
[01:38] <Madpilot> erisco: you'll have to ask someone else, I haven't used anything but Gnome on this box - sorry.
[01:38] <Mabus06> I have a off topic question, but the people in here are smart and I don't know where else to ask. My electricity cuts out every now and then. The onlly way I can get it to work again (found this on accident) is to turn the burner of my stove on. The instant I turn it on, my electricity works again. Can somebody just demystify me a bit?
[01:39] <menchi> Wtf.
[01:39] <erisco> Madpilot, no problem
[01:39] <Kyo> Awesome
[01:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Mabus06: now that is really f*cking weird
[01:39] <Mabus06> Yeah really
[01:39] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: transgaming created cedega off a fork of wine from awhile ago when wine was still under a bsd style license. You can have anonymous cvs access to cedega and compile it yourself.
[01:39] <KerPlunk_> But there are legal restrictions and it's not technically free software.
[01:40] <_jason> Mabus06: your stove is electric I assume?
[01:40] <Xenguy> erisco: you want to use xfce4 ?
[01:40] <Mordof> KerPlunk_, any chance you could help me with thaT? :P
[01:40] <menchi> mabu: do you have all the kernel patches?
[01:40] <menchi> *mabus
[01:40] <rachana> ubotu multimedia
[01:40] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[01:40] <Mabus06> _jason: the clock on it is electric but the rest is gas
[01:40] <erisco> Xenguy, yes I do. I have it installed, but do not know how to start it
[01:40] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: wine now is licensed under lgpl, which means any code from when the license was changed for wine from bsd to lgpl..can't be used by cedega.
[01:40] <Mabus06> menchi: kernel patches?
[01:40] <_jason> Mabus06: then taht is really weird.....
[01:41] <WezlFawlty> lol
[01:41] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: just illegally download it
[01:41] <purpleheart_USMC> I'm having trouble getting my computer to rip cd's into mp3's...any ideas?
[01:41] <KerPlunk_> fuck transgaming
[01:41] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: check www.thepiratebay.org
[01:41] <Mabus06> Although I assume even gas stoves need some sort of electricity.
[01:41] <pianoboy3333> I was told bmpx could play m4p's but it's not working, i can't find my m4p's in the library, and I don't like how it is set up: Artist, CD Title, Track
[01:41] <Xenguy> erisco: OK, so when gdm starts and you go to login, choose 'Sessions' instead...
[01:41] <Frebrd> my ati drivers continuously break can some one help me???
[01:41] <_jason> KerPlunk_: not here
[01:41] <Guillaume> Command for disabling Clock syncro on boot for ubuntu?
[01:41] <KerPlunk_> transgaming is "making a quick buck" off the back of the Wine project,
[01:41] <Seveas> Frebrd, 'continuously break'?
[01:41] <WezlFawlty> mabus06 pilotless stoves make a "click click click" when you ask for fire
[01:41] <Frebrd> yes Seveas
[01:41] <Xenguy> erisco: you can then choose it for just that session, or else as your default desktop (it asks you what you prefer to do)
[01:41] <Seveas> KerPlunk_, nonsense, cedega has serious added value.
[01:42] <Madpilot> purpleheart_USMC: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping
[01:42] <Mordof> KerPlunk_, if it was just off of wine... cedega wouldnt support alot more
[01:42] <Mabus06> WezlFawlty: The 'instant' I turn the burner on my electricity goes back.
[01:42] <Mordof> their support page is huge
[01:42] <erisco> Xenguy, thanks
[01:42] <Barry> how do I check the stack size of the kernel ? or does anyone know what the ubuntu default is for the smp kern ?
[01:42] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: right
[01:42] <Frebrd> it stops working when linux freezes when an opengl app is open. i can't fix it so i end up reinstalling linux
[01:42] <pianoboy3333> What will play my m4p's from the itunes store?
[01:42] <Mabus06> I should specify that only some of my electric things go down. And they're not in the same region of the house at all and it almost seems random.
[01:43] <Guillaume> What is the command for disabling Clock cyncronization on starup please
[01:43] <Mabus06> And it seems odd that a circuit would contain a hall light, one of my room's sockets and my oven.
[01:43] <volvoguy> hey folks. i'm having an nvidia binary driver issue on a laptop. native display size is 1024x768, which is what I have set in xorg.conf. unfortunately what i see is only the upper left corner of what looks to be a giant desktop. the only weird thing i've seen so far is from X's log - "Adding EDID-provided mode "1280x1024" for DFP-0." somehow X is getting the idea that the display's resolution is bigger than it should be. any though
[01:43] <volvoguy> ts?
[01:43] <WezlFawlty> Mabus06 get an electrician..... sounds like a loose connection... this house once had a bad common coming in off the pole... caused all kinds of weird problems
[01:43] <_jason> Mabus06: gremlins
[01:43] <menchi> Mabus06, compiler errors
[01:44] <WezlFawlty> lol
[01:44] <Mabus06> menchi: ?
[01:44] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: type this as root "apt-get install bittornado; btdownloadcurses http://static.thepiratebay.org/downloadtorrent/3407082.torrent/Cedega_5_DEP.3407082.TPB.torrent;"
[01:44] <nbound> sorry to the ppl i was helping before i had to go n eat
[01:44] <KerPlunk_> Mordof: Then you have the free version of Cedega.
[01:44] <menchi> The bastards never get all the dependancies right when they compile houses theses days
[01:44] <Madpilot> menchi: his house was compiled incorrectly? :P
[01:44] <pianoboy3333> What will play my m4p's from the iTunes music store?
[01:44] <Mordof> KerPlunk_, nah, i think im actually gonna pay for it
[01:44] <iBalo> Mabus06: you should go to #ubuntu-offtopic and seriously check your electrical installation for light bow's and burning traces... We don't want to loose ubuntu users by burning down their homes :P
[01:44] <Mabus06> Oh that was probably a joke.. I apologise but this whole thing has sort of killed my sense of humor temporarily.
[01:44] <Mordof> KerPlunk_, its not that expensive
[01:44] <Frebrd> anyone knoiw where the xorg logs are?
[01:45] <menchi> Mabus06, you do realize this is chat for a linux OS< right?
[01:45] <Kyo> er, how would I open a .zip file?
[01:45] <david_m_e> anybody know how i run the Linux equivalent to 'scandisk' from the Ubuntu menu system, and if not available, what the command is in terminal ? (thanks)
[01:45] <WezlFawlty> Mabus06 u do need a eh... "professional" :P
[01:45] <pianoboy3333> KerPlunk_: It really isn't--only 5/mo
[01:45] <pianoboy3333> I was thinking of suscribing, but i don't know if it's worth it since i HAVE windows....
[01:45] <volvoguy> Frebrd, they're in /var/log/
[01:45] <pianoboy3333> What program will play my m4p's from the iTunes music store?
[01:46] <tatters> ou don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[01:46] <KerPlunk_> You mean you have to keep paying them every month
[01:46] <purpleheart_USMC> I can't find gstreamer0.8-lame ... I'm using dapper drake btw
[01:46] <menchi> THat made me lol hardcore. I;m sorry. :(
[01:46] <nbound> pianoboy3333, m4p's or mp4's?
[01:46] <_jason> purpleheart_USMC: it's version 10 now
[01:46] <purpleheart_USMC> ty
[01:46] <pianoboy3333> nbound: the extension on the file is .m4p
[01:46] <Mabus06> WezlFawlty: My oven trick will have to work for now, for my poor self.
[01:46] <nbound> u know what codec they use?
[01:47] <pianoboy3333> nbound: nope, but I think I have all the gstreamer codecs
[01:47] <Mordof> KerPlunk_, no, you only have to pay for 1 month.. you just dont get any service or stuff after that month ends, you can still use cedega
[01:48] <KerPlunk_> ahh, that's a pretty cool business model.
[01:48] <Mabus06> menchi, I realise that, if you read my first query you'd know that I know. Please read before you comment.
[01:48] <nbound> pianoboy3333, if its a mpeg4 movie, get faac and ffmpeg
[01:48] <menchi> I know, I'm sorry.
[01:48] <volvoguy> KerPlunk_, if you're thinking about Cedega, it's worth it compared to trying to get WINE to do the same things.
[01:48] <pianoboy3333> nbound: I know that, but I believe it is a mpeg4 song.
[01:48] <Frebrd> anyone want to look at my xorg log I NEED HELP!!!
[01:48] <pianoboy3333> Frebrd
[01:48] <menchi> I'm over tired, and that was random enough to amuse me greatly
[01:48] <pianoboy3333> Frebrd: kk
[01:49] <nbound> pianoboy3333, well faac should fix it
[01:49] <nbound> most mpeg4 audio is in aac format
[01:49] <volvoguy> songs from the iTunes music store are aac, but they have DRM built in.
[01:50] <pianoboy3333> nbound: right, how do I play that
[01:50] <purpleheart_USMC> _jason: its not working stil...can you look at what my outout was from the terminal?
[01:50] <Frebrd> http://pastebin.com/558743 theres my log
[01:50] <_jason> purpleheart_USMC: sure
[01:50] <nbound> pianoboy3333, should play in totem
[01:50] <volvoguy> pianoboy3333, check this out - http://www.hymn-project.org/
[01:50] <pianoboy3333> nbound: do i need the program faac?
[01:51] <KerPlunk_> volvoguy: nah if I wanted Cedega I would just illegally download it.
[01:51] <KerPlunk_> volvoguy: /lastlog piratebay
[01:51] <nbound> id say so, it wont hurt anyway
[01:51] <purpleheart_USMC> _jason: http://pastebin.com/558746
[01:51] <rachana> anyone know how to download and install mono ?
[01:52] <pianoboy3333> ok
[01:52] <Frebrd> :(
[01:52] <jetscreamer> isohunt >
[01:52] <jetscreamer> well
[01:52] <jetscreamer> i llike the format better
[01:52] <_jason> purpleheart_USMC: apparently I was mistaken, i jsut checked packages.ubuntu.com and that packages is still 8
[01:52] <kbrooks> rachana, apt-get install mono
[01:52] <Madpilot> rachana: if you use Synaptic to install a mono-using app - TomBoy, for example - it'll pull all the mono stuff in too
[01:52] <_jason> purpleheart_USMC: make sure you have multiverse
[01:52] <tatters> anyone use apache2 /sll    with ubuntu ?
[01:53] <purpleheart_USMC> k
[01:53] <volvoguy> KerPlunk_, eh, it's not that expensive to join, download and cancel. plus you're giving back a bit for future development. that's just me though. ;)
[01:53] <PrimoTurbo> Anyone here using XGL?
[01:53] <volvoguy> PrimoTurbo, i was just getting ready to play with that now.
[01:53] <geoffrian> Does anyone here have Verizon DSL???
[01:54] <matty> why does my nvidia-settings now have any settings? heh it used to be like a control panel
[01:54] <matty> s/now/not
[01:54] <geoffrian> Does anyone have DSL in Linux???
[01:54] <jetscreamer> no
[01:54] <jetscreamer> btw do you mean damn small linux or digital subscriber line
[01:54] <jetscreamer> #dsl
[01:55] <jetscreamer> but nobody has either
[01:55] <geoffrian> Digital Subscriber Line
[01:55] <jetscreamer> nope
[01:55] <jetscreamer> why
[01:55] <volvoguy> geoffrian, not personally, but a friend has it and considers it a huge frustration.
[01:55] <rachana> hi i installed multimedia codecs but which application i shud use to open wmv files ?
[01:55] <matty> rachana: mplayer
[01:55] <jetscreamer> 'aviplay but it's probably not around
[01:55] <geoffrian> What high speed internet can I get for Ubuntu??
[01:55] <Adri2000> rachana: mplayer or totem
[01:55] <jetscreamer> geoffrian: whatever is available in your area
[01:55] <rachana> where is mplayer
[01:55] <jetscreamer> and what you want to pay for
[01:55] <jetscreamer> !mplayer
[01:55] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:55] <rachana> i see only totem
[01:56] <rachana> i dont see mplayer
[01:56] <jetscreamer> it's not in standard sources
[01:56] <Madpilot> rachana: Totem will play wmv
[01:56] <geoffrian> As far as I know they have programs that need to be run in Windows
[01:56] <volvoguy> geoffrian, cable internet plugged into a linksys router/firewall works great for me.
[01:56] <jetscreamer> geoffrian: those programs are crap, you don't even need them in windows
[01:56] <jetscreamer> geoffrian: seriously
[01:57] <Madpilot> geoffrian: I've used both ADSL & cable w/ Ubuntu, and they both "just work"
[01:57] <geoffrian> Good, so if they say Windows is a requirement, it isn't??
[01:57] <rachana> it says there were no decoders
[01:57] <steve60> anyone know of any good games to get for linux
[01:57] <jetscreamer> not for something like pppoe
[01:57] <Madpilot> geoffrian: if they say that, they don't know what they're talking about...
[01:57] <volvoguy> geoffrian, i asked the installer to just drop the stuff off. i set it up myself.
[01:57] <jetscreamer> which is what most dsl is using
[01:57] <Zen> hey guys
[01:57] <tatters> lynksys wrt54g is excellent piece of cheap tart
[01:57] <tatters> tat
[01:57] <jetscreamer> the PROGRAMS require windows
[01:57] <geoffrian> Where do I go in the control center to set it up??
[01:57] <Dasnipa`> what does it mean if after running apt-get update i get this error:   W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:57] <jetscreamer> but to access the dsl you don't need the programs
[01:57] <rachana> i downloaded codecs
[01:58] <steve60> anyone know of any good games to get for linux
[01:58] <Madpilot> rachana: get the w32codecs
[01:58] <Zen> yup
[01:58] <jetscreamer> pppoeconf in xterm .. sudo pppoeconf
[01:58] <jetscreamer> steve60: any idsoftware game... enemy territory is free...
[01:58] <Madpilot> geoffrian: plug your computer into the web connection before you start it - it should auto-detect & run automatically
[01:58] <volvoguy> geoffrian, ditto tatters. i think most ISP's realize people have home LANs. with comcast, all that's required is plugging the ethernet from the cable modem into the linksys wrt54g.
[01:59] <geoffrian> Ok, thanks.
[01:59] <Dasnipa`> tomorrow is a HUG day yay
[01:59] <jetscreamer> you have to set the router up with your username and password volvoguy
[01:59] <jetscreamer> but that's all
[01:59] <volvoguy> jetscreamer, i never did.
[01:59] <tatters> I got a static IP but by cloning my mac with the linksys router I get a fresh ip
[01:59] <volvoguy> jetscreamer, oh... on the linksys side. i gotcha. i thought you mean comcast required it.
[01:59] <jetscreamer> volvoguy: or the dsl modem... but that's time warner and sbcglobal
[02:00] <rachana> madpilot: i downloaded it and it is not installing
[02:00] <sagarp> can i use x11r7 without upgrading to dapper
[02:00] <Madpilot> rachana: have you followed the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[02:00] <jetscreamer> sagarp: why do you need to
[02:00] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Has anyone tried/successfully installed compiz?
[02:00] <tatters> I flashed my though with dd-wrt firmware
[02:00] <rachana> madpilot: yes i downloaded all the repos
[02:00] <jetscreamer> yeah i wanna try some linux bios in a linksys soon
[02:00] <sagarp> jetscreamer, i just want to have hte latest x11, but i know dapper is still beta
[02:00] <volvoguy> i'm going to go bug the nvidia channel about my driver problem. catch ya'll later.
[02:01] <jetscreamer> sagarp: same question. what in r7 do you need that 6.9 doesn't give you
[02:01] <Madpilot> rachana: try installing totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer - -gstreamer is buggy for me
[02:01] <jetscreamer> but yes you can if you know what you're doing
[02:01] <jetscreamer> but ubuntu won't support it
[02:01] <matty> anyone know how to turn on vsync for xgl?
[02:01] <jetscreamer> Madpilot: yeah i've seen that too
[02:01] <rachana> madpilot: how to install totem-xine?
[02:02] <jetscreamer> apt-get install totem-xine
[02:02] <jetscreamer> i like xine-ui myself
[02:02] <tatters> dd-wrt firmware 2.4 will alow multiple SSIDs from same box so I can have a wpa2 network and public network on  same AP
[02:02] <Madpilot> rachana: search for it in Synaptic - it'll overwrite your existing totem-gstreamer install, and the menu entry for totem won't change
[02:03] <rachana> madpilot: ok
[02:03] <sagarp> jetscreamer, i have xorg 6.8
[02:03] <jetscreamer> ok so same question
[02:04] <sagarp> jetscreamer, i wouldnt know, since i never used 7.0, which is exactly why i would like to try it out, to see if it's much different for myself
[02:04] <jetscreamer> sagarp: x.org
[02:04] <jetscreamer> go forth young man
[02:04] <sagarp> =/
[02:04] <jetscreamer> :)
[02:05] <jetscreamer> you can check the changelog and see if you really want it ...
[02:05] <rachana> madpilot:
[02:06] <rachana> i see totem-gstreamer in green
[02:06] <rachana> and totem-xine with a star
[02:06] <steve60> jetscreamer, any way i can download that nme terratory thing via apt-get
[02:06] <rachana> madpilot: under snnaptic
[02:06] <rachana> madpilot: what shud i do?
[02:06] <jetscreamer> steve60: not afaik, but it's on the idsoftware site
[02:07] <steve60> every time i click the link it opens a modules.php page???
[02:07] <Madpilot> rachana: right-click on totem-xine, select "Install", and then hit the "Apply" button
[02:07] <jetscreamer> not sure.. hang on steve60
[02:07] <rachana> madpilot: ok
[02:07] <Madpilot> rachana: it'll automatically remove totem-gstreamer, like I said earlier
[02:08] <jetscreamer> steve60: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/
[02:08] <steve60> thx
[02:08] <syntax_> any way i can _completely_ reinstall alsa relatively simply?
[02:08] <zebraFusion> can someone help me get my apache server to allow inbound connections from outside the network?
[02:09] <next> i have an nvidia K8ne and ubuntu isn't working with it... i've installed a bunch of stuff for it... can anyone help?
[02:09] <syntax_> next, nvidia makes *nix drivers dont they?
[02:10] <steve60> next you enable the driver
[02:10] <LinuxJones> hey guys can someone help me with jagged looking fonts on a fresh install on my laptop ?
[02:10] <next> no, just installed it, how do i enable?
[02:10] <zebraFusion> can someone help me get my apache server to allow inbound connections from outside the network?
[02:10] <skayme> hello, anybody can help me with XMAME?
[02:10] <skayme> where i should copy the neogeo library in xmame?
[02:10] <syntax_> zebraFusion, it shoult allow that by default
[02:10] <_unstable> zebraFusion: I bet people in #mame can
[02:10] <syntax_> sure your router/firewall isnt stoping them?
[02:10] <skayme> thanks
[02:10] <Madpilot> LinuxJones: have a look at System menu --> Prefs. --> Font, and play with some of the options there
[02:11] <nickrud> LinuxJones, you could mess around with sub-pixel smoothing in, see madpilot
[02:11] <next> steve? how to i enable, i just downloaded it.
[02:11] <syntax_> any way i can _completely_ reinstall alsa relatively simply?
[02:11] <LinuxJones> Madpilot: I have been there and checked all of the options, nothing seems to help :(
[02:11] <jetscreamer> next when desperate, #nvidia
[02:11] <rachana> madpilot: totem-xine is working
[02:12] <next> oh, dig it get... didn't know there was a room for that. thanks
[02:12] <Madpilot> LinuxJones: if it's a laptop, what about the "LCD/sub-pixel smoothing" option?
[02:12] <LinuxJones> Madpilot, nickrud, I am wondering if it's something in my xorg config file
[02:12] <Madpilot> rachana: good to hear
[02:12] <LinuxJones> Madpilot: that makes things look even worse :(
[02:12] <jetscreamer> next they may tell you a way that's different from the ubuntu way
[02:12] <nickrud> LinuxJones, possibly. or maybe you're not at native resolution on the laptop?
[02:13] <Bean> Anybody know of a good web dev channel on this server?
[02:13] <LinuxJones> nickrud: yes I am on 1280 X 800 on a wxga widescreen
[02:13] <skayme> anybody answerme in #mame channel :(
[02:13] <jetscreamer> http://www.google.com/linux?q=font+deuglification+howto&restrict=linux
[02:13] <jetscreamer> nvu
[02:13] <jasonjdp> any body know how i would go about making and mounting cd images? im trying to mess with wine and it hangs up when i need to put in a second cd when installing something
[02:13] <jetscreamer> !info nvu
[02:13] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[02:13] <bassinboy> date %r [07:11:00PM] 
[02:13] <bassinboy> date: too many non-option arguments: [07:11:00PM] 
[02:13] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[02:14] <Madpilot> Bean: Screem or bluefish - I think screem might be able to use DW stuff, too
[02:14] <mateon> oh! nvu is at 1.0 ?
[02:14] <jetscreamer> not sure about the dreamweaver templates though
[02:14] <Bean> Madpilot, I have screem setup, and it says it can do DW templates, just can't figure out how exactly
[02:14] <bassinboy> any idea how to change the time?
[02:15] <jetscreamer> date
[02:15] <jetscreamer> man date
[02:15] <bassinboy> jetscreamer: I already looked through that, and still can't get the right syntax
[02:15] <LinuxJones> Madpilot, nickrud, my xorg only has a generic monitor selected shouldn't there be some reference to an LCD display or does that matter ?
[02:16] <Madpilot> Bean: http://www.screem.org/ - there's a help forum there
[02:16] <daverag> Can anyone point me to a howto on how to install the fglrx module in the kernel, I can't seem to get it to be the same version as my ATI drivers (8.22.5)
[02:16] <bassinboy> jetscreamer: can you give me an example?
[02:16] <_jason> bassinboy: I don't think you need %r
[02:16] <amonkey> i get readonly file system errors on my ipod even though it says rw in mount, what could be wrong?
[02:16] <bassinboy> _jason: thanks
[02:16] <jetscreamer> bassinboy: no i never could either, i just use the gnome admin thing or the kde one :)
[02:16] <jetscreamer> or set it in bios
[02:16] <jetscreamer> see also ntpdate and ntp
[02:16] <jetscreamer> !ntp
[02:16] <ubotu> methinks ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.
[02:16] <jetscreamer> !info ntp
[02:16] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[02:16] <ubotu> ntp: (Network Time Protocol: network utilities), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 249 kB, Installed size: 464 kB
[02:17] <Bean> Madpilot, the help form goes to their slashdot message board, searched it already and no results
[02:17] <_jason> bassinboy: nor the brackets
[02:17] <mahangu> anybody have any success running Shareaza or any other windows p2p app under wine?>
[02:17] <bassinboy> jetscreamer: I don't have a gui
[02:17] <Bean> nvu can't do php?
[02:17] <TheCool> I'm working on my new partition scheme for my box. Since I'm going to be adding new drives in the near future I was wondering if it was possible to add drives to a raid0?
[02:17] <Bean> (highlighting that is)
[02:17] <_jason> bassinboy: and use the syntax that man date shows
[02:17] <jetscreamer> bassinboy: listen to _jason , no idea :)
[02:17] <jetscreamer> or set it in bios
[02:17] <_jason> yeah or that
[02:17] <jetscreamer> or just use ntpdate
[02:17] <navarone> mahangu have you used phex? gnutella network client  java
[02:18] <daverag> I get this error when loading the fglrx module in Xorg.0.log (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[02:18] <jetscreamer> bittorrent >
[02:18] <jetscreamer> imo
[02:18] <mahangu> navarone, i don't really like java, but will use it if it comes to a crunch. any other suggestions?
[02:18] <Madpilot> Bean: try the regular user's forum there - I did read something about DW templates at one point - I've never used DW, though, so I didn't really pay attention
[02:18] <steve60> next, you therew
[02:19] <navarone> mahangu...phex is available for windows and linux so you can try on windows natively if you wanna test it
[02:19] <mateon> TheCool: do you know about evms?
[02:19] <mahangu> navarone, im on ubuntu. but isn't there a non java client?
[02:19] <steve60> next, if you open up a console and type in sudo nvidia-glx-config enable that should turn your drivers on perm restart and you'll see the nvidia logo appear at the startup
[02:20] <navarone> mahangu...I only use gtk-gnutella and phex...phex has better filtering imo though
[02:20] <navarone> mahangu you could hop over to freshmeat or sourceforge and see what's cooking <s>
[02:20] <mahangu> thanks navarone
[02:20] <navarone> no prob
[02:21] <raphael_> hi, i wanna know if breezy badger have one way to be server
[02:21] <raphael_> ?
[02:22] <Mabus06> raphael: when you install it do a server install? Or what do you mean?
[02:22] <Mabus06> Set up apache? FTP? Freeciv
[02:22] <gerardo> w.w.w.libiabucio.hotmail.com
[02:22] <Mabus06> Be more specific. ;-)
[02:22] <Madpilot> raphael: you can install Apache & stuff on a desktop isntall, or do a full desktop-less server install
[02:22] <adub> patch: **** strip count l is not a number       <--- does does that error mean im trying to run a patch on orinoco drivers
[02:22] <mateon> raphael_: not sure if i understood you correctly, but if what you want is a server install just type server at the boot: prompt when booting of the install cd
[02:23] <raphael_> first i have installed, sever, but its just a line comand, so i have formated again and put the graphic mode
[02:23] <raphael_> the server mode, is its just on text mode?
[02:23] <mateon> raphael_: what kind of server do you want?
[02:23] <raphael_> a web server and dns
[02:23] <Madpilot> raphael: yes, it is - servers don't really need GUI
[02:24] <daverag> How do I make the kernel aware of the my new fglrx.ko module?
[02:24] <jetscreamer> install it properly
[02:25] <raphael_> can i do a server on the graphic mode?
[02:25] <jetscreamer> yes you can
[02:25] <raphael_> how?
[02:25] <jetscreamer> same as anything
[02:25] <jetscreamer> install x
[02:25] <zebraFusion> what's the default location of the apache2 config file?
[02:25] <zebraFusion> I need to change the port apache uses because my ISP blocks it.
[02:26] <raphael_> what should i install?
[02:26] <Madpilot> !tell raphael_ about lamp
[02:26] <zebraFusion> !tell zebrafusion about lamp
[02:26] <zebraFusion> what's the default location of the apache2 config file?
[02:27] <zebraFusion> I need to change the port apache uses because my ISP blocks it.
[02:27] <raphael_> ok i received here
[02:27] <Madpilot> raphael_: the URL the bot just sent you will walk you thru the Apache part of the install
[02:27] <Mordof> what is btdownloadcurses?
[02:27] <elkbuntu> zebraFusion, dont repeat yourself so quickly, it's the quickest way to get ignored
[02:27] <raphael_> ok thanks, i will try now...
[02:27] <raphael_> bye, i will sleep after, but thanks
[02:27] <_jason> zebraFusion: probably somewhere in /etc/apache2
[02:27] <navarone> Mordof, probably a bt client that runs in console curses style
[02:27] <bimberi> zebraFusion: /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[02:28] <zebraFusion> bimberi, once again... ;)
[02:28] <Mordof> navarone, i see
[02:28] <jrattner1> Can i resize a partition in gparted while its mounted?
[02:28] <zebraFusion> Thanks :] 
[02:28] <mateon> jrattner1: no
[02:28] <navarone> jrattner1, not likely
[02:28] <bimberi> zebraFusion: hehe :)
[02:28] <jrattner1> mateon, so how do i resize my / (root) partition?
[02:28] <Macbeth> Hi, any one know why "etc/init.d/gdm start" doesn't work?
[02:29] <mateon> jrattner1: well you could boot from some kind of a live cd
[02:29] <jetscreamer> try sudo?
[02:29] <bimberi> zebraFusion: if you decide to put oracle and zope on as well then my run might continue :)
[02:29] <jrattner1> mateon, sounds good then thank you
[02:29] <jetscreamer> or try this: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start
[02:29] <Macbeth> yeah, left that off, it just cuck back, already running
[02:29] <mateon> jrattner1: and resize it from there, after making a backup of course
[02:29] <navarone> jrattner1, download system rescue cd and boot with it...it has gparted and qtpart on it so you can use them to resize while your partition is not in use
[02:29] <mateon> heh, he left :/
[02:30] <Macbeth> what the ?dm about?
[02:30] <jetscreamer> ? is variable
[02:30] <jetscreamer> and if you had xdm...
[02:30] <jetscreamer> or kdm...
[02:30] <zebraFusion> bimberi, I don't think I'm going to license oracle, and I have no idea what zope is :P
[02:30] <jetscreamer> !info zope
[02:30] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[02:30] <ubotu> zope: (Open Source Web Application Server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2.6.4-1.6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2554 kB, Installed size: 13848 kB
[02:30] <bimberi> zebraFusion: kk :)
[02:30] <jetscreamer> !info plone
[02:30] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[02:30] <ubotu> plone: (content management system based on zope and cmf), section web, is optional. Version: 2.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[02:30] <onewaytolive17> can someone please help me with my sound card?
[02:30] <onewaytolive17> it isnt working
[02:31] <onewaytolive17> and it worked before i installed linux
[02:31] <jetscreamer> quadra wtf
[02:31] <jetscreamer> it still works, you just haven't set it up properly yet
[02:31] <navarone> onewaytolive17, type lspci | grep audio  in terminal and see if it gives soundcard name
[02:32] <jetscreamer> !smart questions
[02:33] <jetscreamer> gah
[02:33] <jetscreamer> !tell onewaytolive17 -about smart questions
[02:33] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  im gettin nothing
[02:34] <daverag> Anyone knows how to make the fglrx stuff work, I just can't seem to get my kernel module to the latest version
[02:34] <navarone> onewaytolive17, what kind of soundcard do you have?
[02:34] <tritium> daverag: did you follow the wiki page?
[02:34] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  its a laptop i dont necessarily know the name of the card
[02:34] <onewaytolive17> my model is a thinkpad 770
[02:34] <daverag> tritium: i just saw that.. brb
[02:34] <tritium> okay, daverag
[02:35] <jetscreamer> there is a thinkpad kernel module, don't know what it does, but it exists
[02:35] <zebraFusion> Can anyone recommend any apache adminstrator tools... Like, to see who's connected, who's downloading, ect
[02:36] <mateon> hrm, webmin?
[02:36] <interferon> roughly how many gigabytes should i expect a fresh ubuntu install to use?
[02:36] <tritium> about 2, interferon
[02:37] <interferon> tritium, thanks
[02:37] <_jason> interferon: 2 is what is recommedned on the cd
[02:37] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[02:38] <navarone> onewaytolive17, go to System/Preferences/Sound and see what it says for default soundcard
[02:38] <onewaytolive17> it says it says the sollution to my problem is modprobe snd-cs4236
[02:38] <onewaytolive17> but every time i do it i get a whole page of errors -_-
[02:38] <onewaytolive17> basically saying it doesnt exist
[02:39] <edoardo> you guys, sometimes i develop gnome and i've just posted an idea i had to more expert gnome developers, but i'd like to get some feedback from people! and suggestions : ) the idea can be summarized like this
[02:39] <edoardo> you middle click anywhere on the screen. a sphere comes up where you clicked. with an icon, say a xine icon on it. you scroll the sphere with the mouse wheel, up or down, and you know the sphere rotates, showin' other icons as it rotates, it's like a menu bar, with quick links on it. you left click, the sphere disappears. the app starts. a total revolution.
[02:41] <_jason> edoardo: we like to keep this channel for support, but I'd like to discuss your idea in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to join me
[02:41] <edoardo> _jason, sure : )
[02:41] <navarone> onewaytolive17, how comfortable are you at editing config files?
[02:42] <onewaytolive17> onewaytolive17,  if i can get decent directions i can do it no problem been doing lots of it lately -_-
[02:42] <navarone> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24877.html <-- try this solution and see if it helps
[02:43] <rachana> how to change password ?
[02:43] <ufo> passwd
[02:43] <slide23> Has anyone setup lighttp on ubuntu or know of a guide/deb for it?
[02:43] <mateon> rachana: type passwd in a terminal
[02:43] <Ainvar> for secure smtp and pop transfers how do I have evolution keep the certificate perm instead of me having to click ok everytime I load up evolution
[02:43] <rachana> ok
[02:43] <bimberi> rachana: or via the GUI: System -> Preferences -> About me  (top right)
[02:43] <rics> How can I make glxgears print the FPS information?
[02:43] <zebraFusion> !info mrtg
[02:43] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[02:43] <ubotu> mrtg: (multi router traffic grapher), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.12.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 646 kB, Installed size: 1724 kB
[02:43] <rachana> ok
[02:44] <slide23> !info lighttpd
[02:44] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[02:44] <mateon> what is this quadra thing?
[02:44] <gabacho> bot I think
[02:45] <daverag> I run module-assitant prepare and get Warning, /usr/src/linux-2.6.15 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source!
[02:45] <mateon> i can see that, what is it supposed to do?
[02:45] <daverag> Even though I copied the .config file from /boot
[02:45] <gabacho> no idea here, most of em are dumb ass anyway
[02:45] <mateon> daverag: if your'e using the stock kernel consider installing linux-headers
[02:46] <daverag> yeah i got some of those
[02:46] <gabacho> hehehe
[02:46] <gabacho> some of em eh?
[02:46] <daverag> hmm but fglrx seems to build anyway
[02:46] <ufo> daverag, you should go to kernel source dir and run make oldconfig
[02:47] <daverag> well i'm plunging, (rebooting) wish me luck
[02:47] <rgbman> how does one boot a previous kernel in ubuntu?
[02:47] <WiFiTux> cool, dapper now has gnome 2.13
[02:47] <WiFiTux> :)
[02:48] <slide23> is dabber newer/older then breezy?
[02:48] <navarone> rgbman, if it shows up in grub menu at boot you can select it and it will load
[02:48] <WiFiTux> slide: stabber?
[02:48] <slide> err dapper lol
[02:48] <bimberi> slide: _dapper_ is newer
[02:48] <WiFiTux> slide: bleeding edge
[02:48] <slide> ah
[02:48] <mateon> slide: not stable yet
[02:48] <slide> thats a debian name though right?
[02:48] <rgbman> ok thank you
[02:49] <mateon> slide: nope
[02:49] <WiFiTux> slide: ?
[02:49] <slide> n/m
[02:49] <WiFiTux> slide: debian names are taken from Toy Story movies.
[02:49] <slide> heh
[02:49] <gabacho> lol
[02:49] <WiFiTux> Potatoe, Sarge, Woody
[02:49] <navarone> is that where they got sarge?
[02:49] <sagarp> how do i change the main menu icon?
[02:49] <mateon> slide: in debian they have sarge, etch and sid currently
[02:49] <WiFiTux> all of them
[02:49] <avar> navarone: yes
[02:50] <gabacho> what will they do when they run out of names
[02:50] <navarone> well at least it wasn't snow white
[02:50] <gabacho> go to toy soldier #1
[02:50] <gabacho> toy soldier #2?
[02:50] <WiFiTux> gabacho: you can't run out of names
[02:50] <avar> or toy story 2?
[02:50] <gabacho> from Toy Story?
[02:50] <nickrud> gabacho, finance a new toy story movie?
[02:50] <_jason> sagarp: edit this image file (or replace it): /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[02:50] <gabacho> hehehe
[02:50] <gabacho> exactly
[02:50] <gabacho> Debian sponsored animation...that would suck
[02:50] <WiFiTux> ?
[02:50] <slide> If anyone finds me a lighttpd package that works in ubuntu 5.10, ill love you forever
[02:50] <slide> heh
[02:50] <gabacho> if their release cycle is applied...a new movie would be produced once every 10 years
[02:51] <avar> slide: just grab it from svn
[02:51] <Bean> Has anybody here converted a site made in Dreamweaver w/ templates, into a Screem site? Can't find any info on how to actually make my dreamweaver templates work in it... even though the are supposed to.
[02:51] <slide> avar, but i want it installed via a package, I dont lik "make installs" cluttering up the system heh
[02:51] <avar> slackboy: use /usr/local/
[02:51] <avar> or /opt
[02:51] <avar> or ~
[02:51] <sagarp> _jason, thanks man
[02:52] <nickrud> slide, look into checkinstall, it's not perfect, but often works
[02:52] <slide> k
[02:53] <tony__> Hi. I'm new. Anyone know how to get drivers for a Voodoo 3 card. I have 640x480 max resolution.
[02:53] <navarone> Bean on the screem features page it says something about page wizard handling things like that...maybe you need to use a wizard and import function...?
[02:54] <brenner> tony__: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:54] <Bean> navarone, thanks, will look
[02:54] <nickrud> tony__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d
[02:55] <tony__> I'm reading now. Thanks brenner and nickrud.
[02:55] <_jason> edoardo: okay, how about this.  a circle
[02:55] <_jason> arg
[02:56] <zebraFusion> What service is ipp version CUPS 1.1
[02:57] <nickrud> zebraFusion  the print spooler
[02:57] <mateon> zebraFusion: printing
[02:57] <fit4lfe> installed dapper now xwindows won't start
[02:58] <zebraFusion> What the hell is that running for, I don't even have a printer.
[02:58] <zebraFusion> Must be somethign weird with Dapper :o
[02:58] <fit4lfe> how can I get back xwindows ?
[02:58] <zebraFusion> How can I remove those programs
[02:59] <fit4lfe> shouLd I just install breezy again
[02:59] <fit4lfe> just the ports to breezy instead of dapper ?
[02:59] <zebraFusion> fit4lfe... I'm asuming you've apt-get update, and dist-upgrades a few times?
[02:59] <zebraFusion> My x has failed twice since I moved to Dapper
[02:59] <fit4lfe> yeah
[02:59] <nickrud> zebraFusion, you can use rcconf to disable cupsys
[03:00] <zebraFusion> but both times I've waited a day or just ran those commands it's worked.
[03:00] <fit4lfe> so how do I fix this
[03:00] <fit4lfe> really
[03:00] <fit4lfe> that did it
[03:00] <fit4lfe> just update and upgrade
[03:00] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu really is an ancient african word meaning (a) "i'm sick of compiling gentoo" and (b) i'm sick of gentoo's 'support channel'
[03:00] <zebraFusion> For me :o
[03:00] <zebraFusion> lol
[03:00] <fit4lfe> hmm
[03:01] <zebraFusion> That's what it means to me :P
[03:01] <fit4lfe> do you have a nvidia driver too
[03:01] <fit4lfe> or just use vesa
[03:01] <Madpilot> hyperactivecrond: there seem to be a number of "translations" of Ubuntu... :P
[03:02] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  hey man it didnt work :( want me to give you the error it gets on startup now?
[03:02] <snoozix> did anyone install ubuntu as a server?
[03:02] <WiFiTux> Madpilot: can I change my nick to gnome-applets?
[03:02] <DUMAiSO> !nvidia
[03:02] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:02] <WiFiTux> snoozix: you can.
[03:02] <snoozix> !server
[03:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[03:03] <snoozix> WiFiTux: i know.
[03:03] <navarone> onewaytolive17, sure
[03:03] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  what is that one site i can post it at, its kinda long -_-
[03:03] <hyperactivecrond> !msgthebot
[03:03] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:03] <navarone> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:03] <zebraFusion> pastebin.
[03:04] <rachana> how to install the latest firefox ?
[03:04] <hyperactivecrond> !firefox
[03:04] <rachana> how to
[03:04] <zebraFusion> rachana, sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:04] <hyperactivecrond> !tell rachana about firefox1.5
[03:05] <snoozix> hm
[03:05] <hyperactivecrond> eek zebraFusion : old buggy version
[03:05] <snoozix> allright, is one using an ftp server on his dialup connection?
[03:05] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8766
[03:05] <mateon> snoozix: ask your real question
[03:06] <snoozix> mateon: if i set a deny/drop policy i would have to track the ingoing ports that the ftp wants to open dynamically, am i right?
[03:06] <rachana> skype anyone
[03:07] <hyperactivecrond> !skype
[03:07] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:07] <snoozix> mateon: is this what conntrack for ftp does completely?
[03:07] <hyperactivecrond> follow that
[03:07] <navarone> onewaytolive17, you say sound works in windows?
[03:08] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  yes it does
[03:08] <mateon> snoozix: hyrm, not sure how ftp works with ports
[03:08] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  on linux-laptop.net it says its a problem with my model
[03:08] <mateon> snoozix: I don't think I can help you, sorry
[03:08] <snoozix> mateon: i know that it does not work as i need it to when i set my firewall to default drop everything.
[03:08] <snoozix> mateon: hmmm thanks a lot anyways
[03:09] <navarone> onewaytolive17, copy the line you added and paste in bin
[03:09] <onewaytolive17> ok
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> damnit fuck
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> don't tell me.
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> JFS is a shitty file system.
[03:10] <_jason> Engla: what is quicksilver?
[03:10] <rachana> that one not working
[03:10] <rachana> i need skype ubuntu
[03:11] <bluefoxicy> and now panel won't start, gdm theme is broken.
[03:11] <bluefoxicy> I am betting I have shit in lost+found.
[03:11] <rachana> anyone using skype?
[03:11] <navarone> wtf is jfs?
[03:11] <holobyted> hey hey, anyone here have Nexuiz installed? can't seem to get sound working
[03:11] <bluefoxicy> navarone:  IBM's Journaled File System.
[03:11] <WiFiTux> journalist file system
[03:11] <WiFiTux> that
[03:11] <bluefoxicy> navarone:  ubuntu is retarded and so if you use xfs for / with /boot on /, they xfs_freeze /
[03:11] <ufo> rachana, i am... why
[03:11] <bluefoxicy> navarone:  and this freezes the ubuntu installer as it attempts to then use the xfs_freeze frozen file system.  Deadlock.
[03:12] <navarone> bluefoxicy, ...tough day at the office...? <s>
[03:12] <rachana> ufo: how to install
[03:12] <bluefoxicy> navarone:  I tried to dodge the bullet and just use jfs because I don't want to use Reiser (ReiserFS 3.6 and Reiser4 are poorly designed) or ext3 (no tailing mechanism, which makes it eat about 10-40% more space)
[03:13] <hyperactivecrond> bluefoxicy: dont diss the ubuntu state of mind
[03:13] <bluefoxicy> navarone:  but JFS is such horrible crap, it doesn't ever replay the journal on mount.
[03:13] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  sbin/modprobe snd-cs4236
[03:13] <ufo> rachana, do you have 64bit system?
[03:13] <bluefoxicy> navarone:  and the last 5 times I've used it (read: every time), 1-2 system hard locks or power drops has lead to mass data loss.
[03:13] <rachana> no
[03:13] <navarone> bluefoxicy, sounds like you shouls stick with the devil you know
[03:13] <rachana> 32 bit
[03:14] <ufo> rachana, did you download the package from skype site
[03:14] <rachana> no
[03:14] <rachana> it did not work some say
[03:14] <bluefoxicy> now my panel won't start and I can't load an xterm
[03:14] <ufo> download the debian/ubuntu package and install with dpkg -i *package_name*
[03:14] <rachana> ufo: where to download
[03:15] <ufo> rachana, www.skype.com
[03:15] <rachana> ufo: let me try
[03:15] <navarone> onewaytolive17, did you reboot or restart alsa?
[03:15] <onewaytolive17> onewaytolive17,  i  totally rebooted
[03:15] <bimberi> ufo: have skype fixed the libqt dependency issue?
[03:15] <navarone> onewaytolive17, gnarly
[03:16] <ufo> bimberi, yes there is also an package with qt compiled in the binary...
[03:16] <bimberi> ufo: ah, thanks :)
[03:17] <navarone> onewaytolive17, go back to that page I gave you and try alternatives that are further down page
[03:17] <onewaytolive17> navarone,  ok thanks :)
[03:17] <gurlpleez> will you talk to me?
[03:17] <navarone> onewaytolive17, one suggested changeing the csbit to another number
[03:17] <holobyted> so, anyone have Nexuiz installed? (GPL FPS game)
[03:17] <gurlpleez> i do
[03:18] <navarone> well i am off for the night...ned my beauty sleep...cya folk take care
[03:18] <gurlpleez> it's cool
[03:18] <holobyted> how'd you get sound working?
[03:18] <holobyted> or not
[03:18] <WezlFawlty> that was a troll
[03:20] <brenner> a pretty pathetic one too
[03:20] <rachana> i downloaded skype debian
[03:21] <rachana> now what shud i do?
[03:21] <next> i have set up my ATI but i get a Fatal error:screen not detected, can someone help me get my GUI up?
[03:21] <rachana> skype debian downloaded. now wat 2 do?
[03:22] <rachana> ufo:
[03:22] <brenner> next: "i have set up my ATI" ... elaborate please
[03:22] <brenner> rachana: dpkg -i <package>  probably
[03:22] <rachana> ok
[03:22] <next> downloaded the drivers... went threw the fglrxconfig file set it up
[03:22] <ufo> rachana, go to console and type dpkg -i *packagename*
[03:23] <Madpilot> next: have you read the wiki's ATI driver page?
[03:23] <brenner> next: which drivers?  how'd you install them?
[03:24] <Madpilot> !ati
[03:24] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:24] <next> apt-get ATI-driver-fglrx
[03:24] <GTX> http://www.probnc.org/admins/swinder.jpg
[03:24] <GTX> ul
[03:25] <GTX> lol
[03:25] <GTX> that that
[03:25] <rachana> ufo: its showing error
[03:25] <IdleOne> whats the error
[03:25] <rachana> ufo: libqt3c102-mt is missing it seems
[03:26] <syntax_> any way i can _completely_ reinstall alsa relatively simply?
[03:26] <brenner> GTX: heh, is that you?
[03:27] <rachana> ubotu skype
[03:27] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:27] <ufo> rachana, ok... try to download the tar package where the qt is compiled in binary... not an deb
[03:27] <rachana> ufo: which one to download ?
[03:27] <brenner> why not just use Seveas' deb?
[03:27] <rachana> ufo: skype for fedora?
[03:27] <ufo> rachana, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static
[03:28] <GTX> brenner na
[03:28] <GTX> www.probnc.co.uk/staff.html
[03:28] <GTX> im the one at the top
[03:28] <ufo> rachana, after you untar that in the directory should be an skype binary
[03:28] <GTX> www.probnc.org/staff.html
[03:28] <GTX> .org sorry
[03:29] <ufo> rachana, that works for me
[03:29] <zebraFusion> How can I remove ipp version CUPS 1.1
[03:29] <concept10> Anyone here familar with Vmware
[03:30] <rachana> ufo: its downloading . after that wat shud i do
[03:33] <ufo> you should extract the package...
[03:33] <zebraFusion> How can I remove ipp version CUPS 1.1
[03:34] <ufo> you are using gnome? right click on package and extract it to your location...
[03:35] <ufo> rachana, did you exract the package?
[03:36] <ufo> rachana, it might take few seconds before starts...
[03:37] <rachana> ufo: i extracted
[03:37] <rachana> ufo: now wat 2 do
[03:37] <rics> automatix ROCKZZZZZ
[03:37] <ufo> rachana, now start the skype binary from console, its in the directory you extracted
[03:38] <rachana> ufo: shall i type skype in shell prompt
[03:38] <ufo> rachana, yes cd into directory and type ./skype
[03:39] <ufo> rachana, did it work?
[03:40] <rachana>  libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared
[03:40] <rachana> ufo:  libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared
[03:40] <ufo> rachana, ok... thats odd...
[03:41] <jasonjdp> how do you run a shell script?
[03:41] <jasonjdp> whats the command?
[03:41] <ufo> rachana, you need the qt library to gnome...
[03:42] <rachana> ufo: how to get it
[03:42] <_jason> jasonjdp: sh /path/to/shellscript, or make it executable and just give the path to the script, like ./shellscript for example
[03:42] <jasonjdp> thnx jason!
[03:43] <rachana> skype installed but not running
[03:43] <ufo> im currently in gentoo, but you could look the qt-libs and libqt-mt in synaptic
[03:43] <ufo> rachana, or with apt-get
[03:44] <rachana> apt-get --- what shud i type after that
[03:44] <ufo> rachana, apt-cache search libqt-mt
[03:45] <ufo> rachana, and then apt-get install *package*
[03:45] <bimberi> rachana: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[03:45] <bimberi> (the Seveas package would have been much simpler)
[03:46] <ufo> bimberi, ok... is the skype in seveas?
[03:46] <bimberi> !skype
[03:46] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:47] <rachana> ok i installed libqt-mt
[03:47] <bimberi> rachana: although you're probably pretty close with the path you're on anyway
[03:48] <rachana> now skype is uninstalled automatically. dono why
[03:48] <bimberi> ufo: yes, he repackaged to fix that dependency issue
[03:48] <ufo> bimberi, ok... thx
[03:49] <rachana> now wat am ii to do
[03:49] <ufo> did you try the apt-get install libqt3-mt
[03:49] <rachana> yes
[03:49] <rachana> i installed
[03:49] <ufo> rachana, try the skype again
[03:49] <rachana> ok
[03:51] <ufo> rachana, did it work?
[03:52] <bimberi> ufo: i guess (s)he's on the phone :P
[03:53] <__mikem> I just installed xfce and I kind of like it
[03:53] <rachana> now wat shud i do
[03:53] <ufo> bimberi, :)
[03:53] <rachana> i again unarchived the files
[03:54] <ufo> rachana, why did you remove the old ones?
[03:54] <rachana> i diddnt
[03:54] <rachana> it uninstled automatic
[03:54] <ufo> rachana, automatic...
[03:54] <rachana> ye
[03:55] <rachana> yes
[03:55] <ufo> rachana, did you try to start the skype?
[03:55] <bassinboy> anyone know webmin? can't login, I have edited the users file and everything
[03:55] <rachana> i typed skype in shell prompt
[03:56] <ufo> bassinboy, do you use the sudo in your ubuntu?
[03:56] <rachana> it showed no such file or directory
[03:56] <bassinboy> ufo: yes
[03:56] <ufo> bassinboy, it needs the root password, i think
[03:56] <bassinboy> I've been trying it
[03:57] <ufo> activating the root passwd with sudo passwd
[03:57] <bassinboy> ?
[03:57] <rachana> skype in linux is horrible
[03:58] <ufo> rachana, but it works.... it the older one... and the fonts are ugly...
[03:58] <_6ix_> Thanks for your guys' help last night, I'm online with Ubuntu now
[03:58] <bassinboy> ufo: man, I can't get it to login at all
[03:58] <bassinboy> /etc/webmin/miniserv.users right?
[03:58] <rachana> hope google brings gtalk to linux. shud be simple
[03:58] <IdleOne> !openssh
[03:58] <ubotu> from memory, openssh is server and client setup at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[03:59] <_6ix_> New question now:  I'm trying to set up xserver, and the terminal asks me for a password, but won't let me type it in
[03:59] <bassinboy> user:password ?
[03:59] <_6ix_> I can hit enter, and it denies my password.  But I can't type anything in
[03:59] <ufo> bassinboy, does it ask the password
[03:59] <rachana> skype + linux = confusion
[03:59] <ufo> rachana, ye
[03:59] <rachana> anyone know suse linux?
[04:00] <ufo> rachana, yes
[04:00] <_6ix_> Anyone know why it won't let me put in my password/how i can fix it?
[04:00] <rachana> is it that easy?
[04:00] <rachana> some frens say so
[04:00] <zebraFusion>  Question
[04:00] <Bean> Is there an equivilant of wine but for windows (so you can run linux apps under windows)
[04:00] <zebraFusion> If I donwload a video file to my Linux partition
[04:00] <ufo> rachana, yes...
[04:00] <zebraFusion> can I put it into my window partition (hda1)
[04:00] <zebraFusion> windows*
[04:00] <rachana> howcome?
[04:00] <bassinboy> ufo: on webmin? yes
[04:00] <AciD> hey
[04:01] <_6ix_> I'm really trying to use the Wiki as much as I can, but it doesn't address some quesionts
[04:01] <ufo> maybe you dont have the root password...
[04:01] <_6ix_> questions, even
[04:01] <_jason> zebraFusion: what filesystem is the windows partition?
[04:01] <zebraFusion> NTFS
[04:01] <AciD> what are you supposed to put in your source.list to have access to xorg 7.0.0-0ubuntu14 ?
[04:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell zebraFusion about explore2fs
[04:01] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know how I can enable dapper universe or whatever, I want access to some of the locked beta software.
[04:01] <rachana> ok guys im leaving
[04:01] <_jason> zebraFusion: yes, but you need to be in windows (see ubotu's link)
[04:01] <PrimoTurbo> I'm using dapper btw
[04:01] <_6ix_> sudo dpkg-xconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:01] <rachana> skype down down
[04:02] <_6ix_> Then it asks for my pass, but won't let me type
[04:02] <pianoboy3333> I'm bored.....
[04:02] <Madpilot> _6ix_: when you're using the terminal, it doesn't echo your pw as you type, but it is going in
[04:02] <Madpilot> _6ix_: it doesn't even use a string of ****** or anything - that's normal
[04:02] <zebraFusion> _jason, so all I do is follow that link in Windows and I can transfer files from Linux to Windows?
[04:02] <rachana> good by ufo
[04:02] <ufo> rachana, by
[04:03] <_6ix_> Madpilot, you're a genius!!!
[04:03] <_6ix_> Thank you SOO much!
[04:03] <Madpilot> !tell _6ix_ about sudo
[04:03] <_6ix_> I feel kinda stupid now
[04:03] <_6ix_> Alright, sorry to ask a stupid question
[04:03] <Madpilot> _6ix_: there's a note near the top of the page the bot just sent you mentioning this non-typing
[04:03] <PrimoTurbo> Guys how do I access the rest of dappers repos?
[04:04] <_jason> zebraFusion: yeah, the second link is easier.  You just run a program and it will let you read and copy stuff from linux to windows
[04:04] <virogenesis> hi MacSlow  just the person i wanted to speak to
[04:04] <ufo> the sudo thing is stupid i think it makes things difficult, like the tab key use and i think the bassinboy s   problem is that too
[04:04] <zebraFusion> Perfect/
[04:04] <PrimoTurbo> How can I add multiverse repository in Dapper?
[04:05] <AciD> hum
[04:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell bassinboy about webmin
[04:05] <bassinboy> ufo: Arg, stupid ubuntu, :P
[04:05] <pianoboy3333> I'm bored....... Anyone know any good games/things to do...?
[04:05] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: same way as in breezy
[04:05] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo: just edit your multiverse line - put dapper whereever it says breezy now
[04:05] <PrimoTurbo> Remind me I followed a guide last time
[04:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell PrimoTurbo about repositories
[04:05] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone gotten dansguardian to work with webmin here?
[04:05] <bassinboy> thanks _jason
[04:05] <PrimoTurbo> alright thnx
[04:06] <MacSlow> virogenesis, ehm... yes?
[04:06] <PrimoTurbo> Dapper is so damn fast compared to the last version
[04:06] <wahyu> hi all, i have download realplayer file (RealPlayer10GOLD.bin) but i dont know how to install in ubuntu 5.10, pls advise..
[04:06] <PrimoTurbo> trying to get XGL now, just insatlled fglrx driver for my ATI card
[04:07] <MacSlow> re
[04:07] <MacSlow> ups...
[04:07] <interferon> how do i go about resizing an ntfs partition?
[04:07] <ufo> PrimoTurbo, same thing here but on gentoo...
[04:07] <interferon> so i can install ubuntu
[04:07] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone gotten dansguardian to work with webmin here?
[04:07] <MacSlow> damn... Ctrl-W and Ctrl-Q are so close to one another :)
[04:07] <pianoboy3333> I'm bored....... Anyone know any good games/things to do...?
[04:07] <MacSlow> virogenesis, so once again... what's up?
[04:07] <virogenesis> hi i'm having probs running your clock on dapper
[04:08] <virogenesis> this is the error i seem to be getting cairo-clock: symbol lookup error: cairo-clock: undefined symbol: rsvg_cairo_render
[04:08] <MacSlow> virogenesis, hm... before going any further... jsut wait a few days (2-3) and you can geta a vanilla dapper .deb of cairo-clock 0.3.1
[04:09] <MacSlow> virogenesis, that's a librsvg-related issue. all taken care of in 0.3.1
[04:09] <bimberi> interferon: the installer can do it (but back up first) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[04:09] <virogenesis> ok then thanks
[04:09] <virogenesis> MacSlow,  nice work by the looks of things
[04:10] <AciD> !sid
[04:10] <ubotu> AciD: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:10] <MacSlow> virogenesis, I'm just a bit "side-tracked" by compiz atm :)
[04:11] <virogenesis> i understand i got compiz installed myself its very impressive
[04:11] <next> is there a way to use linux26 when booting from the 5.04 cd?
[04:11] <wahyu> hello, somebody help me please to install realplayer !!!
[04:12] <next> wah, apt-get install real not work?
[04:12] <MacSlow> virogenesis, http://macslow.thepimp.net/?p=25
[04:12] <catskul> anyone know where I can find a guide to getting xgl running using the ubuntu packages (i.e. not compiling )
[04:12] <next> wah, i think it might be helix....
[04:12] <bassinboy> ubotu: tell bassinboy about enabling root password
[04:12] <nalioth> bassinboy: enabling root breaks things
[04:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bassinboy about root
[04:13] <next> !root
[04:13] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:13] <ufo> ubuntu sudo shit :)
[04:13] <ryman> how do I copy files into /usr/share/pixmaps/ ?
[04:13] <next> so anyone? linux2.6? can i do that?
[04:14] <wahyu> next, my realplayer file (RealPlayer10GOLD.bin) but i dont know the next step...
[04:14] <catskul> ryman, what would keep you from doing so ?
[04:14] <ufo> sudo passwd and give first your password and then two times new root password
[04:14] <catskul> !xgl
[04:14] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:14] <ryman> I don't see pixmaps folder in share directory
[04:14] <ryman> catskul, I'm new to linux. I'm trying to locate pixmaps folder
[04:14] <catskul> ryman, i think its someting like /usr/share/pixmaps
[04:14] <ufo> after that you could enable the allow rootlogin in x
[04:15] <virogenesis> looks good MacSlow good idea  takes away the blandness of it all
[04:15] <ryman> catskul, it said that i don't have permission to move files from / to /usr/share/pixmaps
[04:15] <next> try trying this into the terminal wah "chmod a+x Realplayer10GOLD.bin"
[04:15] <MacSlow> virogenesis, hopefully with shading of the cube/hexagon in the end too
[04:15] <catskul> ryman, are you familiar with using sudo ?
[04:16] <next> follow with "./RealPlater10gold.bin"
[04:16] <catskul> ryman, use  "sudo cp ...."
[04:16] <ryman> catskul, sorry no. I'm totally new to linux
[04:16] <next> make sure to spell correct and use caps
[04:16] <catskul> ryman, have you used the terminal before ?
[04:16] <ryman> Can you give me an example ? the file i'm trying to move is icon.ico
[04:17] <ryman> catskul, yes
[04:17] <catskul> so in the terminal
[04:17] <wahyu> next, i have try, but the reason is   ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:17] <wahyu> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:17] <ryman> sudo cp icon.ico /user/share/pixmaps
[04:17] <ryman> ?
[04:17] <catskul> yep
[04:17] <lon613> anyone have an idea how to format a USB external hard drive? i would like to but can't figure it out. i am normally a RH user.
[04:17] <ryman> catskul, thanks
[04:17] <catskul> np
[04:18] <RememberPOL> How would one boot the Ubuntu LiveCD with hotplug disabled?
[04:18] <ryman> catskul, opps it doesn't work. I think I need the path to desktop
[04:18] <RememberPOL> does anybody know the boot param?
[04:19] <catskul> yeah... for that to work you would have had to have been in the same directory as the file at the time
[04:19] <Arsenal> hello anybody
[04:19] <Arsenal> anybody out there
[04:19] <bassinboy> is there a search option on apt-get? I need to search for webmin modules, it's weird that it installs with none
[04:19] <Arsenal> whats that mean
[04:20] <ryman> how do I change to desktop dir? I'm sorry I will look up for unix commands on google later
[04:20] <ufo> bassinboy, did the root password help?
[04:20] <RememberPOL> bassinboy: try "apt-cache search <name>"
[04:20] <catskul> ryman, cd ~/Desktop
[04:20] <Madpilot> ryman: "cd Desktop"
[04:20] <Arsenal> Helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:20] <bassinboy> ufo: hm? I got it now, Doh, I can't install modules, the webmin version is to old
[04:20] <Madpilot> !tell ryman about cli
[04:20] <Arsenal> someone talk to me
[04:20] <catskul> Arsenal, dont just yell
[04:20] <ryman> Madpilot, catskul : thanks
[04:20] <RememberPOL> Hi Arsenal.
[04:21] <Arsenal> hello
[04:21] <RememberPOL> How's it going?
[04:21] <ryman> !tell ryman about customize
[04:21] <catskul> Arsenal, if you have a question go ahead and ask
[04:21] <ufo> bassinboy, you can update the webmin with webmin
[04:21] <Arsenal> are you a boy or girl
[04:21] <ufo> bassinboy, and get all modules from webmin too
[04:21] <tritium> Arsenal: this channel is for ubuntu support
[04:21] <lon613> any thoughts on the external hard drive issue?
[04:22] <Arsenal> do any of you like soccer
[04:22] <catskul> Arsenal, join #asl
[04:22] <lon613> external USB hard drive. currently NTSF, would like it to be FAT32 or whatever else.
[04:22] <bassinboy> ufo: is there anyway to apt-get install webmin-*
[04:22] <Arsenal> wheres that
[04:22] <tritium> yes, bassinboy.  "apt-cache search webmin" reveals that there are tons of webmin packages available
[04:22] <ufo> bassinboy, yes it should be... try apt-cache search webmin
[04:23] <tritium> (not that I'd recommend it, but it's there)
[04:23] <bassinboy> tritium, ufo, I saw them all, I want to install them all, and
[04:23] <catskul> Arsenal, do you have a ubuntu question ?
[04:24] <Arsenal> do any of you have a psp
[04:24] <ufo> bassinboy, in what format is the webin module name?
[04:24] <ufo> bassinboy, im in gentoo so cant use the apt to look
[04:24] <tritium> bassinboy: if you want to install it, go ahead
[04:25] <bassinboy> ufo: Lucky, I use gentoo too, but this guy wants me to setup his server, and he has ubuntu lol
[04:25] <Arsenal> are there any people out thre
[04:25] <tritium> Arsenal: please stay on topic
[04:25] <Arsenal> sorry
[04:25] <ufo> bassinboy, you could try apt-get install webmin*
[04:25] <bassinboy> ufo: when I try to update it, it says it needs module proc ( the one that kills processes) and when I try to install proc, webmin is to old for it lol
[04:25] <RememberPOL> anybudy?
[04:25] <RememberPOL> *anybody
[04:25] <RememberPOL> know how to disable hotplug subsystem?
[04:25] <rhythminmind> anyone using ubuntu as a samba server for over 15 people?   Also anyone running it with PROFTPD
[04:26] <Madpilot> Arsenal: this is a tech support channel - general chat can go on #ubuntu-offtopic if you want...
[04:26] <lon613> anyone have an idea about the external hard drive?
[04:26] <ufo> bassinboy, try apt-get update && upgrade
[04:26] <pianoboy3333> I'm bored....... Anyone know any good games/things to do...?
[04:26] <bassinboy> I have all the latest everything
[04:26] <Arsenal> shut up shut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut up
[04:26] <Arsenal> shut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut up shut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut up
[04:26] <Arsenal> shut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut upshut
[04:27] <bassinboy> hehe
[04:27] <mtgh> tritium: Thank you
[04:27] <Madpilot> "upshut"? :P
[04:27] <pianoboy3333> yea really....
[04:27] <rhythminmind> any ideas why proftpd would timeout on large uploads..
[04:27] <Madpilot> pianoboy3333: kill people in Enemy Territory
[04:27] <lysis> anybody here ever use the memory tester in grub boot loader?
[04:28] <bassinboy> rhythminmind: got SBC? lol
[04:28] <tritium> mtgh: :)
[04:28] <pianoboy3333> i'll go america's army tho
[04:28] <rhythminmind> =)
[04:28] <bi2> hi all
[04:28] <bi2> how can i start ssh service in CLI?
[04:28] <Madpilot> lysis: memtest86+ or whatever it's called? I have used it, not recently though
[04:28] <bassinboy> ufo: Ok, got It, I needed webmin-core
[04:29] <bassinboy> silly apt-get :P
[04:29] <tritium> bi2: sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:29] <lysis> Madpilot: it actually work?
[04:29] <tritium> bi2: if it's already installed, then it should be running (if not, "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start")
[04:30] <rhythminmind> ok no server guys here........  anyone get conky not to blink on updates?
[04:30] <bassinboy> ufo: this guy actually asked me if something was on gentoo, and I told him gentoo has the largest collection of software known by man availible to it in a single command :P
[04:30] <bi2> tritium, already installed but im having error "privilege separation user"
[04:30] <Xappe> i've manage to install debian sarge on a comp. that ubuntu wouldn't install...is it possible to upgrade sarge to breezy?
[04:30] <tritium> bassinboy: debian has a larger package selection, actually
[04:31] <Madpilot> lysis: seems to
[04:31] <tritium> bi2: when do you get that error?
[04:31] <lysis> fair enough Madpilot
[04:31] <bassinboy> tritium: *shrugs*, over 10,000? heh
[04:31] <Madpilot> lysis: using it, I discovered that the problem wasn't my OS or RAM but my entire motherboard - which I was able to RMA, happily...
[04:31] <bassinboy> with 23,000 different ebuilds
[04:32] <lysis> Madpilot: but the memtest program told you that?
[04:32] <ufo> bassinboy, this is my first time in gentoo and so far it looks nice but its slow to update things and install new software... the debian is good in server, if you dont need the desktop and things like that
[04:32] <tritium> bassinboy: debian has _far_ more than 20k
[04:32] <l_r> hello
[04:32] <tritium> 10k that is
[04:32] <rhythminmind> anyone know a good drive clone system?
[04:32] <rhythminmind> with compression
[04:32] <l_r> is it possible to install ubuntu-livecd onto the hardisk?
[04:32] <lysis> i'm having stability issues.  i thought it was my video card (it was freaking out) and replacing that didn't work.
[04:33] <bi2> tritium, /etc# /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:33] <bi2>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server... Privilege separation user sshd does not exist
[04:33] <l_r> (from within the livecd itself)
[04:33] <bassinboy> tritium: that amazes me
[04:33] <tritium> bassinboy: cool ;)
[04:33] <typewriter> trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a system that would install fine if not for my ide pci controller card that i added
[04:34] <JackSprat> hey guys.. total noob here, but competent.. installed ubuntu on my laptop and all works except sound.. where/how do I start to correct this?
[04:34] <rhythminmind> JackSprat are you in gnome?
[04:34] <tritium> bi2: can you verify that there's no sshd user on your system?  How did you install ssh?
[04:34] <Madpilot> lysis: well, it said there was no problem with my actual RAM, so that narrowed it down to the mobo...
[04:35] <JackSprat> rhythminmind: yes
[04:35] <Madpilot> lysis: because I had a brand-new harddrive, new install of Ubuntu, and the machine was still freezing randomly...
[04:35] <bi2> tritium, apt-get
[04:35] <tritium> bi2: ok, please verify existence of sshd user
[04:36] <rhythminmind> i'm not in gnome at the moment.. but theres a menu to selet the multimedia system or envierment.. forgot how its worded
[04:36] <lysis> Madpilot: i'm starting to suspect the same problem here. =/
[04:36] <rhythminmind> it has a test button
[04:37] <rhythminmind> pick ASLA as well
[04:37] <JackSprat> multimedia system selector?
[04:37] <rhythminmind> yeah
[04:37] <rhythminmind> pink ALSA for both in/out
[04:37] <JackSprat> when i pick it and test ot says: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[04:37] <onewaytolive17> omfg
[04:37] <rhythminmind> pick
[04:37] <onewaytolive17> i finally fixed it!!!
[04:37] <onewaytolive17> :D
[04:38] <Madpilot> lysis: new stuff, or older equipment? (ie can you return the stuff?)
[04:38] <onewaytolive17> my sound for my thinkpad i finally fixed it after weeks of torment -_-
[04:38] <rhythminmind> what soundcard do you have?
[04:38] <lysis> Madpilot: a year and a month old.
[04:38] <bi2> tritium, "no hostkeys available" what is that mean?
[04:39] <onewaytolive17> crimsun, you there?
[04:39] <crimsun> onewaytolive17: hi
[04:40] <houseoftainted> crimsun,  thanks for helping me the other day with my thinkpad soundcard :)
[04:40] <tritium> bi2: you never answered about the sshd user
[04:40] <houseoftainted> crimsun,  what you told me about the modprobe snd-cs4232 did work after i did some tweaking with the config files :)
[04:40] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone found away to play m4p's on ubuntu? I tried downloading hymn, but it seems that I need FairKeys which I haven't found for linux.
[04:41] <pianoboy3333> Not FairKeys to install, I have hymn installed.
[04:41] <rhythminmind> JackSprat.. do this install VLC player.. and set it to use ALSA and see if sound works.. gnome as some sound issues
[04:41] <majd> hey
[04:41] <majd> is there a way to just remove a hyperlink from an OppenOffice.org Writer file?
[04:41] <houseoftainted> crimsun,  thanks for helping me i deeply appreciate it :)
[04:41] <Madpilot> lysis: you're probably out of luck for RMA'ing it, then...
[04:41] <majd> cause when i paste a URL...it makes it a link, can't figure out how to..."unlink" it
[04:41] <crimsun> houseoftainted: np
[04:42] <pianoboy3333> majd: I think if you right click it there is an option
[04:42] <crimsun> houseoftainted: you may wish to write a page on the wiki for it
[04:42] <Madpilot> majd: right click on the link
[04:42] <houseoftainted> crimsun,  ok :)
[04:42] <houseoftainted> crimsun,  know the link?
[04:42] <majd> Madpilot, pianoboy3333, i tried that....
[04:42] <crimsun> houseoftainted: wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:42] <majd> there's a "default formatting" but that removes ALL formatting which is a big pain the butt
[04:43] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone found away to play m4p's on ubuntu? I tried downloading hymn, but it seems that I need FairKeys which I haven't found for linux. Not FairKeys to install, I have hymn installed.
[04:44] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: I use jHymn to unfetter the songs that I purchase from iTMS.
[04:45] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: then I use gstreamer0.8-faad to play them through quod libet
[04:45] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ok, I just downloaded the jhymn source, what do I do next?
[04:45] <JackSprat> doh
[04:45] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: you don't need the source, get the java [binary]  package
[04:45] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: frm where?
[04:46] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: from the jHymn Web site
[04:46] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: I'm happy to continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic if you need
[04:46] <lon613> mp4 support exists for xmms
[04:46] <pianoboy3333> ok
[04:47] <JackSprat> hey guys.. total noob here, but competent.. installed ubuntu on my laptop and all works except sound.. how would I go about correcting this?
[04:47] <lon613> you have to download the stuff for it.
[04:47] <crimsun> JackSprat: what sound chipset?
[04:47] <lon613> the sound issue totally depends on your laptop. you'll have to look up the sound device chipset.
[04:47] <lon613> jinx you owe me a coke.
[04:48] <JackSprat> Analog Devices, Inc. AD1981B Software Sound, AC'97 Rev2.2
[04:48] <JackSprat> Compatible
[04:48] <Fitzsimmons> should work
[04:48] <JackSprat> its a toshiba satellite.. user manual says the above
[04:48] <catskul> anyone know what happened to the mesa package ?
[04:48] <Fitzsimmons> not well, but it should work
[04:48] <lon613> hmmm. 5.10 or 5.04?
[04:49] <JackSprat> 5.10
[04:49] <lon613> how new is the satellite?
[04:49] <JackSprat> few months
[04:49] <crimsun> JackSprat: works here:
[04:49] <crimsun> crimsun@garnish:~$ tail -1 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[04:49] <crimsun> 0: Analog Devices AD1981B
[04:50] <BigDaddy> I just want to come in here and brag for a minute
[04:50] <JackSprat> yes thats what it says crimsun
[04:50] <BigDaddy> I FINALLY got my internet connection working on boot everytime, I have my vidoe driver working correctly, I have all of my drives mounted and I have my mp3's playing
[04:51] <catskul> !mesa
[04:51] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, catskul
[04:51] <BigDaddy> And it is because of all of the help I have received in here
[04:51] <tritium> nice work, BigDaddy :)
[04:51] <BigDaddy> Yeah, I feel like a big boy now
[04:51] <lon613> is there no sound what-so-ever?
[04:51] <JackSprat> nope
[04:52] <crimsun> JackSprat: so you need to pastebin the following for me: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[04:52] <BigDaddy> now for a totally trivial question. In the theme manager or theme details, is there a way to alter the colors of the window borders or the buttons?
[04:52] <Fub> is there a way to prevent windows in gnome raising when you click on them, so they'll only raise if you click the titlebar?
[04:53] <lon613> have you gone into System->Multimedia System Selector and fiddled with the default Sink and Default Source?
[04:53] <BigDaddy> oh - just in case anyone was wondering...Amarok is a badass app
[04:53] <sithi> can somebody help me please
[04:53] <BigDaddy> wassup sithi
[04:54] <BigDaddy> I don't know much, but I'll spill what I know
[04:54] <Madpilot> Fub: have a look in System menu --> Prefs --> Windows - if there is an option like that, it will probably be there...
[04:54] <JackSprat> 0: Analog Devices AD1981B
[04:54] <JackSprat> root@ubuntu:/cdrom# cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[04:54] <JackSprat> 0 [ICH6           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH6
[04:54] <JackSprat>                      Intel ICH6 with AD1981B at 0xd0180000, irq 10
[04:54] <JackSprat> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
[04:54] <JackSprat>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[04:54] <JackSprat>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[04:54] <sithi> i am using ubuntu 5.10 with ltsp, thin client (diskless) is booted with vmlinuz-2.6.9-ltsp-3
[04:54] <eugman> Hey is there a good visual way to monitor how much bandwidth each process uses up?
[04:54] <Fub> Madpilot, it isn't
[04:54] <alex2456> for some reason my terminal doesent color code things anymore, and even when i open up xterm it doesent, anyone know how to fix this?
[04:55] <sithi> also i am assigning static ip 192.168.0.28 to the thin client
[04:55] <Fub> I thought there would possibly be some text file somewhere I could edit
[04:55] <IdleOne> dont think jack knows about pastebin
[04:55] <JackSprat> that was sooo oon accident
[04:55] <Madpilot> Fub: yeah, I just checked - have a look thru gconf
[04:55] <sithi> i can ping that ip also
[04:55] <lon613> JackSprat: my last post was for you if you saw it.
[04:55] <Madpilot> Fub: Applications -> System Tools -> Config. Editor.
[04:55] <IdleOne> JackSprat: use patesbin.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:55] <JackSprat> heh.. ok
[04:55] <sithi> but for ifconfig in the thin client, it is giving me the server 's ip address
[04:56] <Fub> Madpilot, thanks, I need to install it first:) But thanks for the help
[04:56] <lon613> roll on duders.
[04:56] <sithi> what went wrong
[04:56] <Fub> ought to be standard when you install ubuntu really
[04:56] <AdmiralCrunch> hey, hey. I basically just majorly fucked my system files with a bad distro-upgrade. Is there a way I can revert back to old system files, while still keeping everything in my home dirs?
[04:56] <Madpilot> Fub: the config editor is standard, isn't it?
[04:56] <BigDaddy> Honestly sithi, that is over my head
[04:57] <Fub> well, it's not installed on my system
[04:57] <JackSprat> crimsun: I pasted it in pastebin under JackSprat
[04:57] <Madpilot> Fub: huh, I must have istalled it then...
[04:57] <sithi> ok, thanks
[04:57] <Fub> Madpilot, I'm apt-get'ing it now
[04:57] <IdleOne> JackSprat:  paste the link in here
[04:57] <JackSprat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8769
[04:57] <Madpilot> Fub: yeah, gconf is optional - I'd forgotten
[04:58] <majd> how can i access my linux partition throught windows xp?
[04:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell majd about explore2fs
[04:58] <BigDaddy> explore2fs
[04:58] <BigDaddy> crap
[04:58] <BigDaddy> beat me to it
[04:58] <rachana> ubotu opera
[04:58] <ubotu> opera is, like, totally, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[04:58] <Fub> majd if it's ext2 or ext3 try search for ext2 ifs on google
[04:58] <Madpilot> Fub: actually, get gconf2 & gconf-editor
[04:58] <IdleOne> ok how do i setup a mail server?
[04:59] <OmegaAlpha> real quick... whats a good program like wine besides wine of course?
[04:59] <AdmiralCrunch> so bascially simplifing my question, is there a way to do a system files only installation of ubuntu that wont destroy my home folder, as I already have a correctly made ext3 partition
[04:59] <sebastian> AdmiralCrunch, if you have the /home in a different partition then it is very simple
[04:59] <majd> aha...found it: Fub, _jason : http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[04:59] <majd> i knew i read something about it
[04:59] <AdmiralCrunch> sebastian: its on the same drive :(
[04:59] <Fub> the advantage of ext2 ifs is that unlike explorer2fs it integrates into windows explorer
[04:59] <AdmiralCrunch> sebastian: well...rather partition
[04:59] <punkrockguy318> hey
[05:00] <punkrockguy318> is anyone else getting segfaults with the new Xgl in dapper?
[05:00] <majd> Fub, oh, so that won't work with ext3?
[05:00] <Mordof> AdmiralCrunch, next time put it in a seperate partition
[05:00] <IdleOne> !mailserver
[05:00] <ubotu> IdleOne: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:00] <BigDaddy> OmegaAlpha - there is Cedega
[05:00] <Hohlraum> hey guys why do the nvidia packages insist on installing the 386 kernel and restricted modules?  the nvidia packages function with the 686 versions dont they?
[05:00] <BigDaddy> I think that is the name of it
[05:00] <OmegaAlpha> BigDaddy, thanks i was wondering if anyone was going to respond
[05:00] <Fub> majd, it will, but the journal part is not supported (it isn't in explorer2fs as far as I know)
[05:00] <Mordof> i cant figure out how to use cedega
[05:00] <BigDaddy> a lot of conversations going on at once
[05:01] <BigDaddy> Cedega is a commercial app if I am correct
[05:01] <Madpilot> BigDaddy: there always are, here...
[05:01] <Mordof> yup it is
[05:01] <crimsun> JackSprat: I'll get to it in a sec
[05:01] <JackSprat> cool
[05:01] <punkrockguy318> Hohlraum: in what version?
[05:01] <BigDaddy> MadPilot - thats right. A lot of help is needed
[05:01] <JackSprat> bleh. Im not used to this irc chatter yet either
[05:01] <AdmiralCrunch> Mordof: Will do, but is there any way I can install, sans formatting, just by wiping my everything other than the home dir. Or do I just have to backup all that junk and make a fresh one
[05:01] <sebastian> AdmiralCrunch, You need to backup the folder "/home" located in the disk filesystem
[05:01] <Hohlraum> prg318: Dapper
[05:02] <majd> Alright, thanks a lot _jason and Fub
[05:02] <Mordof> AdmiralCrunch, backup, use a partition manager or something, gparted i think... make another partition and move your /home there
[05:02] <rachana> ubotu libqt3-mt
[05:02] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rachana
[05:02] <punkrockguy318> Hohlraum: what kernel?
[05:02] <rachana> anyone libq
[05:02] <rachana> libqt3-mt
[05:02] <BigDaddy> So is it possible to change the colors of buttons and windows like Windows does for the Classic Style?
[05:02] <ubuntu__> ok so
[05:02] <punkrockguy318> BigDaddy: yeah check out system -> prefs -> theme
[05:02] <Hohlraum> punkrockguy318: newest as of last night. -16 i think?
[05:02] <ubuntu__> grub doesn't want to start
[05:02] <ubuntu__> in dapper
[05:03] <ubuntu__> known problem?
[05:03] <ubuntu__> like I can't boot >:|
[05:03] <ubuntu__> and lilo doesn't think it will fit on the partition or in the MBR and won't install.
[05:03] <Mordof> punkrockguy318, he means like windows for classic style
[05:03] <punkrockguy318> Hohlraum: oh.. usually you've got a wait a bit for the restricted modules to be packaged for 686
[05:03] <BigDaddy> That is where I am. I can choose titles and buttons, but I cannot choose my own colors
[05:03] <sebastian> AdmiralCrunch: Then re-install Ubuntu.
[05:03] <AdmiralCrunch> Mordof: k, I am gonna try some stuff out for this, I will get back to you with anymore problems, thanks Mordof and sebastian
[05:03] <Mordof> BigDaddy, its not in the themes menu
[05:03] <BigDaddy> Well, not that I can see
[05:03] <Hohlraum> punkrockguy318: they are there and available
[05:03] <BigDaddy> Mordof - where do I need to go then?
[05:04] <punkrockguy318> Hohlraum: are you sure?  are you sure it's not a dummy?
[05:04] <Mordof> BigDaddy, i dont know.. try art.gnome.org for a whole bunch of themes, there may be one similar to what you want made already.. if not, you will have to make your own theme
[05:04] <punkrockguy318> Hohlraum: try using -14
[05:04] <BigDaddy> OK, so you can't do the color schemes. I was hoping for something like a 3DCC for Linux
[05:04] <Hohlraum> i'll double check.. its making my system lock up when I try to do anything in opengl
[05:05] <sebastian> AdmiralCrunch: Finally copy "/home" back and the system will function as new, but with all the configuration and documents you used to have.
[05:05] <BigDaddy> Anyone here know what I am talking about with 3DCC?
[05:05] <Mordof> BigDaddy, 3DCC?
[05:05] <crimsun> JackSprat: what machine is that?
[05:05] <punkrockguy318> BigDaddy: 3dcc?
[05:05] <BigDaddy> Mordof - you are not a Window user at all, is that right?
[05:05] <JackSprat> crimsun: toshiba satellite m45-S265
[05:06] <BigDaddy> http://pixelarmy.org/q/index.php?poo=3dcc.php
[05:06] <Mordof> BigDaddy, yes i am actually
[05:06] <Mordof> BigDaddy, i deleted windows off my computer last week
[05:06] <Mordof> BigDaddy, the rest of the computers in my house use windows XP though
[05:06] <AdmiralCrunch> sebastian: alright, this is what I plan on doing. I have 2x 250GB drives, one has Ubuntu on it, the other is storage. Anyway, I am gonna move the small amount of files the storage drive has (30GB) to my system drive, I will then format the storage drive, and install Ubuntu on it. Then I will copy all my files over from the old system drive, and format the old one.... simply to save time on copying directories... and formatting NTFS crap
[05:06] <BigDaddy> There is some example of it. It is just a way to color the "Classic" Windows style. I don't really use flashy title bars
[05:06] <JackSprat> crimsun: http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modelLanding.jsp?ProductMenu_0=Portables&ProductMenu_1=Satellite&ProductMenu_2=1042090&x=39&y=7&BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%400103338679.1140147799%40%40%40%40&BV_EngineID=ccchaddgmmlimdecgfkceghdgngdgmn.0&moid=1042090&smoid=true&ct=MH&ListType=Model
[05:06] <BigDaddy> but I like my color schemes
[05:07] <nomad111> !wma
[05:07] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:07] <AdmiralCrunch> btw, anybody running Dapper with good stability here?
[05:07] <Mordof> BigDaddy, that is not in any way the windows classic style
[05:07] <Mordof> BigDaddy, that is a windows xp theme designed to look simplistic
[05:07] <punkrockguy318> BigDaddy: is that 3ddc a windows app?
[05:07] <ubuntu__> hello there
[05:07] <Mordof> punkrockguy318, yes it is
[05:08] <Mordof> dont bother trying to wine it or use cedega with it either, it wont work
[05:08] <Madpilot> BigDaddy: http://art.gnome.org/ has some theme creation tutorials somewhere, you might want too look into those
[05:08] <Madpilot> !tell BigDaddy about themes
[05:09] <BigDaddy> punkrockguy318 - 3DCC is a Windows only app yes
[05:09] <Madpilot> BigDaddy: or have a look at the websites the bot just sent, there are hundreds of themes already made
[05:09] <crimsun> AdmiralCrunch: works great here (ThinkPad X41-2527)
[05:09] <ivonchi> holas
[05:09] <AdmiralCrunch> crimsun: did you do a fresh install?
[05:09] <AdmiralCrunch> hey
[05:10] <Mordof> BigDaddy, that 3DCC thing is crap, half those themes arent designed properly to be considered useful
[05:10] <Mordof> BigDaddy, there are many flaws there... not good design
[05:10] <crimsun> AdmiralCrunch: the last fresh install I did was of Dapper Flight 2
[05:10] <BigDaddy> lol, like I said those were examples, not necessarily good ones
[05:11] <crimsun> AdmiralCrunch: I've dist-upgraded from that
[05:11] <AdmiralCrunch> There are msstyle clones of classic you could use with WINE... but msstyles seem to be fairly sluggish
[05:11] <AdmiralCrunch> crimsun: hmmm... I think I may have to download Flight 4
[05:11] <ubuntu_> Question: what would happen if i was to pull the heat sink off my processor, add new thermal grease, then put a peltier junction[ the things the frigs. uses flat componet the produces coldness on one side heat on the other] . Then added old heat sink to hot side. Could i optumiz processor speed with different size OP amp powering PJ, or Peltier junction rating >?
[05:11] <BigDaddy> I am having trouble describing this app correctly
[05:11] <AdmiralCrunch> Hey frank
[05:11] <ivonchi> holas
[05:12] <crimsun> JackSprat: your model may be one that needs fiddling with 'Headphone Jack Sense' and/or 'Line Jack Sense'
[05:12] <Madpilot> ubuntu_: ask at a modding forum for that sort of thing - try http://forums.bit-tech.net/
[05:12] <Mordof> ubuntu_, doubt people would know too much in here, sounds like a bad idea to me though
[05:12] <BigDaddy> it doesn't change anything other than the colors of the window elements. a theme in GTK or msstyle are "themes" applied to windows
[05:12] <JackSprat> crimsun: how do I get to those settings?
[05:12] <crimsun> JackSprat: try (un)muting either/both (in combinations)
[05:12] <AdmiralCrunch> Syco54645: its a bit odd that we meet in a crowded IRC channel eh? :P
[05:12] <crimsun> JackSprat: use alsamixer (press 'm' to {un}mute)
[05:12] <Mordof> BigDaddy, yes it does bigdaddy, it changes everything, that is not a windows theme
[05:12] <BigDaddy> Madpilot - that sounds like a good idea
[05:12] <crimsun> JackSprat: (alsamixer is a cli app)
[05:12] <Mordof> BigDaddy, none of those are the windows classic theme
[05:13] <Syco54645> AdmiralCrunch: um, maybe if i knew who this was
[05:13] <AdmiralCrunch> Syco54645: Its quandar... Dan...
[05:13] <Syco54645> bah
[05:13] <Syco54645> i suppose it isnt since we both use ubuntu
[05:14] <AdmiralCrunch> I am trying to get Dapper to work right now, reinstalling
[05:14] <BigDaddy> Mordof - http://pixelarmy.org/q/index.php?poo=3dcc.php Those are all the windows classic style. They are just recolored
[05:14] <Mordof> gah! damn screensaver! i wish it could tell weither i was away from my computer or not
[05:14] <Mordof> BigDaddy, not one of those is windows classic style
[05:15] <BigDaddy> Mordof - They all are. OK if you right click on the desktop and go to properties. then go to appearance ->advanced
[05:15] <nomad111> why shuld flash be a restricted format
[05:15] <BigDaddy> Then pick WIndows Classic. The sub-style like Brick, Eggplant, High Contrast
[05:15] <AdmiralCrunch> by the way... reiserfs or ext3 anybody have any insight as to one as better than the other
[05:15] <BigDaddy> 3DCC is the same thing
[05:15] <Madpilot> nomad111: because it's owned by Macromedia...
[05:15] <Mordof> BigDaddy, i know what the windows classic themes look like. ive made many themes, including written my own version of explorer.exe
[05:16] <Mordof> BigDaddy, then those screenshots are not what 3dCC looks like
[05:16] <Mordof> BigDaddy, and all those screenshots are a mis-representation
[05:16] <nomad111> im pissed off coz the gnome and kde applications are mixed together
[05:16] <Mordof> LIES! lol
[05:16] <nomad111> i installed kde yesterday and i wish i didnt
[05:17] <Mordof> nomad111, yeah i wish i hadnt done that either, but i formatted so its long gone
[05:17] <Mordof> BigDaddy, unless those are just color representations, in which case 3DCC is pointless
[05:18] <Mordof> BigDaddy, a program loses all credibility when they spell highlight as "Hilight"
[05:18] <Mordof> unless i dont know how to spell
[05:18] <Mordof> which means ill just shut up and go play games
[05:18] <BigDaddy> Mordof - I guess that is one way to descibe it - Color representations. Not all of the 3DCC themes look like that. None of ine ever did
[05:18] <darthbutcher> !mediamouse
[05:18] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[05:18] <darthbutcher> Hey.
[05:18] <darthbutcher> Sup?
[05:19] <BigDaddy> Back to the topic though, this Gnome Art is really cool little app
[05:19] <Mordof> BigDaddy, ? its the theming system for ubuntu
[05:19] <darthbutcher> I need some help.
[05:19] <darthbutcher> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1792,contentid=9598
[05:19] <pianoboy3333> BigDaddy, I like it, but the firefox GMD theme doesn't work......
[05:19] <darthbutcher> I need to get that running in Linux.
[05:20] <BigDaddy> I just downloaded this from the link the Ubotu sent me
[05:20] <Mordof> BigDaddy, can you paste for me?
[05:20] <Mordof> wasnt aware there was something else
[05:20] <ryman> how do I get into ~/.gnome ?
[05:21] <Mordof> ryman, "Show Hidden Files" in your view menu, or some other menu
[05:21] <BigDaddy> mordof - sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[05:21] <Madpilot> ryman: Ctrl+H in nautilus
[05:21] <ryman> Madpilot, Mordof : thanks
[05:21] <BigDaddy> hey guys I got to go. My daughter just cam out here and told me to go to bed
[05:21] <gnomeee> how to install font individually
[05:21] <BigDaddy> lol
[05:21] <Mordof> BigDaddy, shes a conspirator, dont listen!
[05:22] <BigDaddy> MadPilot, Mordof - you guys take it easy
[05:22] <gnomeee> how to install a font
[05:22] <BigDaddy> my wife probably sent her out here
[05:22] <BigDaddy> night all
[05:22] <gnomeee> ubotu font
[05:22] <ubotu> methinks font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[05:23] <adub> does anyone in here use airsnort
[05:23] <ryman> hmm I dont see .gnome in there. I only see .gnome2
[05:23] <Mordof> ryman, then its not in there..
[05:24] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for java
[05:24] <darthbutcher> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1792,contentid=9598
[05:25] <darthbutcher> How do I install that?
[05:25] <IdleOne> darthbutcher:  what is it?
[05:25] <darthbutcher> IdleOne: I have a media mouse, it enables medianess.
[05:25] <darthbutcher> !cordlessclick
[05:25] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <darthbutcher> I am gonna try Wine to install it.
[05:26] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: does it work as a basic mouse, or not at all?
[05:27] <darthbutcher> Madpilot: it works as a basic mouse
[05:27] <darthbutcher> Is it possible to get IE7 working on Linux?
[05:27] <darthbutcher> !ue7
[05:27] <ubotu> darthbutcher: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:27] <darthbutcher> !ie7
[05:27] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[05:28] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[05:30] <dechtakar> Hi, I'm a complete newb at this... is it possible to install both Ubuntu and Mac OS X onto an external FireWire hard drive, and have them both bootable?
[05:30] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Ok - when trying to apt-get xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop in Dapper, I get error messages about unmet dependencies.
[05:30] <darthbutcher> Madpilot; That didn't work
[05:31] <dechtakar> I've found documentation on how to install just Ubuntu, but I haven't seen an external dual-boot solution
[05:32] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: try here again later, or ask on the forums
[05:32] <darthbutcher> k
[05:36] <ivonchi> %green
[05:37] <ivonchi> holi
[05:37] <krz> hello
[05:37] <krz> ive looked at the gentoo installation guide. quite a lot of steps to do. ive installed gentoo before. so somethings are quite familiar. i also looked at ubuntu, which is pretty much a straightforward installation. i guess my question is, when would a user need to install a distro like gentoo over a distro like ubuntu?
[05:38] <darthbutcher> !limewire
[05:38] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[05:38] <Mordof> has anyone ever gotten Nfsug2 working in wine?
[05:38] <Mordof> (need for speed underground 2)
[05:38] <Madpilot> krz: when they were/are insane :P
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> krz,  when ya want to do a lot of tweaking and cuzeomizing and twiddling.
[05:39] <IdleOne> Mordof:  use cedega
[05:39] <Mordof> IdleOne, tried, i dont know how to get it running stuff
[05:39] <bimberi> krz: when they must have the absolute latest ... Now!
[05:39] <darthbutcher> !frostwire
[05:39] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[05:39] <akant> what is the difference between a 386 version of the kernel and a 686?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> 300 :P
[05:40] <IdleOne> lmfao I was just thinking that
[05:41] <krz> how much faster would the ubuntu distro run compared to a distro like gentoo?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> krz,  gentoo COULD be a little faster.. but proberly not much worth worrying about.
[05:41] <IdleOne> krz:  install ubuntu use it for a month and you wont think about genntoo
[05:41] <La_PaRCa> is there something similar to kdevelop using gtk?
[05:41] <akant> boo
[05:41] <akant> :)
[05:41] <bimberi> La_PaRCa: anjuta ?
[05:41] <krz> IdleOne have you used gentoo before?
[05:42] <IdleOne> krz nope
[05:42] <Mordof> IdleOne, every time i try to use cedega it says "Please install cedega before playing any games"
[05:43] <IdleOne> Mordof:  did you install it?
[05:43] <krz> btw, the ubuntu installation cd is straighforward? or you would need to do a lot of manual configuration, like in gentoo?
[05:43] <Mordof> i thought i did..
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Mordof,  you  normally install the Point2Play thing. then have it install the latest cedega.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> actually with 5.0 thats not right. :P lol.
[05:43] <Mordof> Dr_Willis, oh ok
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> it has a 'update' feature ya want to run
[05:43] <IdleOne> krz ubuntu is straight forward install
[05:44] <krz> Gentoo uses emerge, what does ubuntu use? just to have an idea?
[05:44] <akant> Has anyone gotten the Cisco VPN client to work with Breezy?  I am reading about a patch for this? am I on the right track?
[05:44] <Madpilot> krz: apt-get or Synaptic
[05:44] <benplaut> krz: if you've done gentoo, then you'll be thinking you somehow happened to skip the 85 middle pages of the install guide
[05:44] <knight> hi
[05:44] <knight> all
[05:44] <benplaut> 'lo knit
[05:44] <benplaut> *knight
[05:45] <benplaut> sarg: enjoying Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:45] <knight> Can I remote install
[05:45] <knight> this operating system
[05:45] <knight> into a laptop
[05:45] <sarg> yep, thanks for`asking
[05:45] <benplaut> knight: it would be quite hard
[05:45] <krz> does ubuntu have good support for wireless lan?
[05:45] <benplaut> !netinstall
[05:45] <ubotu> benplaut: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:45] <benplaut> bah
[05:46] <sarg> on an all debin network thogh :P
[05:46] <knight> well I have been able to setup a LTSP enviroment how different can it be
[05:46] <IdleOne> !wireless
[05:46] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:48] <knight> I want to be able to image my laptop
[05:48] <knight> it has no cd rom drive
[05:48] <knight> all I can use is the network to boot
[05:48] <knight> and usb
[05:48] <bimberi> knight: there are some advanced install methods described here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[05:48] <bimberi> knight: the Netboot install looks promising :)
[05:49] <krz> out of experience. which is considered to have more bloat: suse, redhat, or ubuntu?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> look at the # of cd's they come on. :p
[05:50] <anto9us> krz, windows
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu =1
[05:50] <PrimoTurbo> For anyone who is runing XGL!! How do you see the top of the cube?
[05:51] <interferon> does the ubuntu installer cd support resizing ntfs partitions?
[05:51] <whyami> when I plug my evolution UC-33e USB midi controller, /dev/midi is created but not /dev/midi1. I can't then seem to use the controller in Pd. Am I missing a module or something? How can I troubleshoot this?
[05:51] <bimberi> interferon: yes
[05:51] <PrimoTurbo> When I do ctrl + alt + left/right it switches but I can't see the dambe cube.
[05:51] <anto9us> krz, if you do a server install of ubuntu then install xubuntu-desktop on top of that, it should be quite minimalistic
[05:51] <PrimoTurbo> interferon: No I don't think so
[05:51] <MacSlow> PrimoTurbo, Ctrl-Alt lmb-drag
[05:51] <bimberi> interferon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[05:51] <stevenu> hi all have just got ubuntu running but I had 2 monitors attached when installing now I cant get the resolution up to the right level for my flatscreen
[05:51] <PrimoTurbo> MacSlow: Sweet thanks
[05:52] <PrimoTurbo> that's ownage
[05:52] <PrimoTurbo> any more shortcuts?
[05:52] <wastrel> what is lmb ?
[05:52] <MacSlow> PrimoTurbo, but you have to lmb-press/drag on an empty area
[05:52] <PrimoTurbo> yeah I tried just now
[05:52] <wastrel> ah nvm
[05:52] <wastrel> brain clicked in
[05:52] <MacSlow> wastrel, lazy abbreviation for left-mouse-button
[05:52] <PrimoTurbo> how do u get a logo on the top part of cube?
[05:52] <MacSlow> PrimoTurbo, I guess you'll like that then http://macslow.thepimp.net/?p=25
[05:53] <knight> ok
[05:53] <darthbutcher> Anyone here use LimeWire?
[05:53] <knight> so
[05:53] <PrimoTurbo> sweet
[05:53] <MacSlow> PrimoTurbo, that's only working when you have a compiz compiled with libsvg and libsvg-cairo support
[05:53] <knight> If I use netboot
[05:53] <wastrel> stevenu:  did you add higher rez to your xorg.conf?
[05:53] <knight> can I also install redhat
[05:53] <knight> since it is an image file that you send
[05:53] <stevenu> no ... new to linux will try that
[05:54] <PrimoTurbo> OMFG
[05:54] <PrimoTurbo> THIS IS BS, damn shift and backspace on XGL
[05:55] <PrimoTurbo> what was that link again?
[05:55] <knight> I use limewire
[05:55] <krz> im looking in the ubuntu website. i cant find the installation guide .. :(
[05:55] <wastrel> stevenu:  it's pretty simple, just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the lines where your video resolution are listed & add the resolution you want...
[05:55] <bimberi> krz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/
[05:56] <wastrel> stevenu:  backup the working xorg.conf first :] 
[05:56] <knight> is it posible to remote install red hat
[05:56] <bimberi> krz: sorry - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[05:56] <knight> with ubuntu
[05:56] <stevenu> wastrel, :) thanks do I have to reboot to apply it ?
[05:56] <darthbutcher> !java
[05:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:56] <whyami> anybody know about midi interfaces?
[05:56] <wastrel> stevenu:  i think logging out & back in again should work.
[05:56] <stevenu> thanks
[05:57] <wastrel> also ctrl-alt-backspace  kills the running X server
[05:57] <wastrel> if you should need to do that
[05:57] <stevenu> thanks ... gonna go try
[05:58] <PrimoTurbo> How do you zoom in XGL?
[05:58] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know how to ZOOM in XGL/Compize?
[05:59] <benplaut> PrimoTurbo: you'd probably have to code a program to do it
[06:00] <PrimoTurbo> You can do it with XGL
[06:00] <PrimoTurbo> what's the shortcut
[06:00] <ryman> I Love Ubuntu
[06:00] <paquin> me too!!
[06:00] <knight> why dont you marry it
[06:00] <knight> lol
[06:01] <ryman> I would if I could
[06:01] <ryman> lol
[06:02] <MacSlow> PrimoTurbo, check out the forums at www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:02] <PrimoTurbo> I did
[06:02] <PrimoTurbo> it says windows button and mouse2 or mouse3
[06:02] <PrimoTurbo> doesn't work
[06:03] <wastrel> i use mozilla thunderbird
[06:05] <nonade> salut
[06:05] <nonade> Personne ??
[06:05] <wastrel> ok i don't get it
[06:06] <nonade> oki , its not french cannel ?
[06:06] <nonade> sorry , channel ?
[06:06] <wastrel> #ubuntu-fr ?
[06:06] <nonade> thanks
[06:07] <wastrel> yw
[06:08] <AdmiralCrunch> guess I am just gonna have to install Breezy that dist-upgrade my way up... the iso mirrors for dapper are being laggy
[06:08] <wastrel> there's not a torrent or something?
[06:09] <wastrel> ok how am i able to send mail when i can't find my relay host in my postfix settings?
[06:09] <AdmiralCrunch> yeah, I bet there is but I am on a live cd, and I am getting tired of fucking with it :P
[06:11] <wastrel> omfg because it's delivering mail by itself with smtp
[06:12] <wastrel> well that's interesting
[06:12] <chris86wm> does anyone know how to play video from a capture device using VLC?
[06:12] <chris86wm> i have audio working but i cant seem to get the video to play
[06:12] <Puffy_Taco> So... I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an AMD64 system, but it hangs after I type my username/password (hangs on the brown background, mouse moves, keyboard seems frozen)
[06:13] <Puffy_Taco> the livecd had the same problem
[06:13] <Puffy_Taco> the forums seem to mention that this is a problem in breezy?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Puffy_Taco,  what processor and video card?
[06:14] <Puffy_Taco> AMD64 3500+
[06:14] <nonade> Help , searsh french channel , not ubuntu-fr ??
[06:14] <Puffy_Taco> Nvidia geforce 6800
[06:14] <ryman> nonade, french channel is #ubuntu-fr
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Puffy_Taco,  about what I got.. mine is working fine. :( hmmm...
[06:14] <nonade> yes but other ubuntu-fr
[06:15] <ryman> hmm I dont know
[06:15] <nonade> thank
[06:17] <bassinboy> lol, how do you get unzip??
[06:17] <keithhhhhhhhh> wow this room is surprisingly quiet
[06:18] <wastrel> bassinboy:  sudo apt-get install unzip
[06:18] <bassinboy> wastrel: Bleh, didn't see it when I searched for it :P
[06:18] <wastrel> that's how they get ya
[06:19] <nonade> ok , i don't write english , but I have a problem with Skype for Ubuntu64 bit , help
[06:20] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im new to ubuntu and relatively new to linux....I was wondering is there a way to install a full copy of both Ubuntu and Win XP but I want to run XP in Ubuntu and I get really frustrated with Ubuntu I want to be able to remove Ubuntu easily.
[06:20] <keithhhhhhhhh> Anyone done this before?
[06:20] <ryman> keithhhhhhhhh, you can dual booting winxp and ubuntu
[06:21] <ryman> is that what you want ?
[06:21] <keithhhhhhhhh> not really
[06:21] <keithhhhhhhhh> I want to run XP inside ubuntu
[06:21] <wastrel> run xp in ubuntu - that would require vmware or something
[06:21] <keithhhhhhhhh> ya I was thinking that
[06:21] <keithhhhhhhhh> but the catch is
[06:21] <ryman> oh
[06:22] <keithhhhhhhhh> if I get really frustrated with ubuntu can easily delete it and just go back to XP
[06:22] <keithhhhhhhhh> ?
[06:22] <GigaClon> yeah
[06:22] <keithhhhhhhhh> giga - was that yeah for me?
[06:22] <wastrel> keithhhhhhhhh:  if you're running xp in vmware it's a separate installation of xp
[06:23] <GigaClon> keithhhhhhhhh, most programs in XP have a Linux equivalent
[06:23] <wastrel> keithhhhhhhhh:  as i understand it anyway...  so you wouldn't be able to do what you're thinking.
[06:23] <keithhhhhhhhh> hmmm
[06:23] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im getting a new hard disk for my notebook
[06:23] <ctaborda> Hi everyone!... I am having some problems... I am tyrign to put music in my ipod with GTKPOD but whenever I hit SYNC to save the things to the ipod it says it cant because its "Read Only File System"
[06:24] <ryman> I have problem locating .gnome folder. Where can I find the ~/.gnome folder? I'm trying to change my splash screen
[06:24] <GigaClon> keithhhhhhhhh,  for other programs you can run WINE which allows you to run some windows programs in linux
[06:24] <keithhhhhhhhh> ya
[06:24] <keithhhhhhhhh> hmmm
[06:24] <wastrel> ryman:  ~/.gnome should be in your home directory
[06:24] <coir> Does aynone know how I can change Xubuntu-desktop's (Xfce's) display resolution through the terminal?
[06:25] <wastrel> ryman:  there may also be a ~/.gnome2
[06:25] <GigaClon> also Ubuntu should be easy to remove if needed
[06:25] <keithhhhhhhhh> hmm cool
[06:25] <GigaClon> just reformat the partition its on
[06:25] <ryman> wastrel: .gnome isn't in my home dir
[06:25] <ctaborda> Hi everyone!... I am having some problems... I am tyrign to put music in my ipod with GTKPOD but whenever I hit SYNC to save the things to the ipod it says it cant because its "Read Only File System"... anyone?
[06:25] <ryman> .gnome2 is there though
[06:25] <timfrost> !tell ctaborda -about ipod
[06:25] <keithhhhhhhhh> I think what I might do is back up everythign I have going right now, and if in the future I can always go back
[06:25] <wastrel> ryman:  you've probably never had gnome 1 so .gnome wasn't created
[06:25] <keithhhhhhhhh> I like linux
[06:26] <keithhhhhhhhh> but limited experience
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> it pays to read and read and read some more :P
[06:26] <GigaClon> Ubuntu is the way to learn
[06:26] <keithhhhhhhhh> Ubuntu's idea of just installing one program for one function sounds great
[06:26] <coir> Ubuntu doesn't teach people how to compile and such.
[06:26] <coir> Though it'sr eally simple.
[06:26] <ctaborda> timfrost, I already kind of know.. im just ahving problems mounting it as NOT ONLY READ ONLY!
[06:26] <ryman> wastrel: I wonder where the splash-ubuntu.jpg located at ? because I want to put the new splash images into the same dir
[06:26] <GigaClon> the best way for dual-booting system is such:
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  IF its the program you perfer to use.
[06:27] <wastrel> ryman:  locate splash-ubuntu.jpg
[06:27] <hatake_kakashi> coir: its not meant to
[06:27] <keithhhhhhhhh> Mandrake looks great but I feel that Im installing so much crap and I dont know what is on the system
[06:27] <GigaClon> 5GB windows XP Partition
[06:27] <wastrel> ryman:  locate is your friend :] 
[06:27] <GigaClon> then 10-15 GB linux partition
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  this is all linux. :P you can make it do what you want. remove what you dont want.
[06:27] <coir> hatake_kakashi, I know, but someone said "Ubuntu is the way to learn" =P
[06:27] <GigaClon> then the rest FAT32
[06:27] <timfrost> ctaborda, was the ipod removed frm its cradle in mid-sync at some time?
[06:27] <ryman> wastrel, sorry I don't get it. I'm new to linux
[06:27] <GigaClon> or get experience
[06:27] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr- but with mandrake there is so much I dont know what I have most of the time hehe
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> coir: iirc ubuntu was recommended for newcomers of linux
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  learn the fundamentals. the rest is just iceing on the cake.
[06:28] <ctaborda> timfrost, nop..
[06:28] <wastrel> ryman:  locate is a command that finds files
[06:28] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - I agree but I find that linux always had a problem with file management
[06:28] <ryman> wastrel, thanks
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  i dont find any problems with it. :P now Windows on the other hand... i do find problems
[06:29] <GigaClon> keithhhhhhhhh, one important dual-booting thing to note, Linux can't write to NTFS (WinXP) drives
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> depends on what you 'define' "file management" as :P
[06:29] <GigaClon> drives partitions
[06:29] <ctaborda> timfrost, and what happens if it did? I mean what could the solution be?
[06:29] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - hahaha I agree there are lots of probs with win, Im not defending windows hehe
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Windows CAN read/write to ext2/3 partitions now :P whioch is nice.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> with the right extra tool. :p
[06:30] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - Linux cant be installed onto NTFS really I thought it could
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  with QEMU ya can run it on a windows install.. if you needed to.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> from what i gather ext3 is in many ways better then NTFS :p
[06:30] <coir> Can someone assist me with a display res problem?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> but i dont know how ya would benchmark/prove such a statement.
[06:31] <Toma-> coir, whats the problem?
[06:31] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - I tried the live disk but my internet connection always craps out after 5 minutes, do you think I will have the same problem when I install from scratch?
[06:32] <coir> Toma-, messing with Xfce res, I selected a bad one, apparently. It's all goofy when I try to load it up, so I can't see anything
[06:32] <timfrost> ctaborda, some fi;lesystem types need to be checked (e2fsck, chkdsk) every so often.  But that shouldn't affect FAT32, which I assume for Ipod.
[06:32] <ctaborda> yeap
[06:32] <Toma-> coir, ahhh silly. press Ctrl-Alt-+ or -
[06:32] <ctaborda> so why am I getting read only file sys?
[06:32] <MindFreak> Question i just double clicked taskbar at top now it dissappeared... ho0w i get it back
[06:32] <MindFreak> ?
[06:33] <coir> Toma-, that'll change the res?
[06:33] <Toma-> coir, yep
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  doubtfull. the live cd is out dated in ways. and is not a really good test. theres other live linux disrtos ya may want to try out as well.
[06:33] <coir> Ok, I'll give it a shot. Ty.
[06:33] <wastrel> coir:  numberpad + and -
[06:33] <wastrel> hope he has a numberpad
[06:34] <wastrel> hm i broke my email
[06:34] <wastrel> bleh i've never liked postfix
[06:34] <MindFreak>  Question i just double clicked taskbar at top now it dissappeared... ho0w i get it back
[06:34] <hatake_kakashi> anyone know if k7 is athlon?
[06:35] <akant> I think you are correct
[06:35] <cameron> i think so
[06:35] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: yes
[06:35] <hatake_kakashi> ok thanks
[06:35] <akant> Pre thunderbird cpu
[06:35] <akant> I think
[06:35] <Toma-> MindFreak, in gnome?
[06:35] <coir> Toma-, didn't work. o_o
[06:35] <wastrel> MindFreak:  what window manager?
[06:35] <akant> The k7 was Slot A correct?
[06:35] <coir> ctrl alt +/-, right?
[06:35] <wastrel> coir:  you have to use numberpad + and -
[06:35] <coir> I tried that :-P
[06:36] <MindFreak> think it's gome
[06:36] <coir> I'll try again.
[06:36] <hatake_kakashi> akant: nfi heh
[06:36] <Toma-> gah
[06:36] <keithhhhhhhhh> I hate to ask this question but has anyone been able run IE in Linux, I almost never use IE except I surf Korean websites sometimes and most korean sites expect active X  :(
[06:36] <MindFreak> running a live CD
[06:36] <wastrel> MindFreak:  did you try logging out & back in again?
[06:36] <wastrel> ah
[06:36] <akant> lol
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  ick.
[06:36] <keithhhhhhhhh> Dr - ya I know
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  heck i even disable activeX when i Have to use IE.
[06:36] <MindFreak> have no controlles
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> its that big a security issue.
[06:36] <wastrel> MindFreak:  try alt-f2 then type gnome-panel & hit enter
[06:37] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - ya I dont blame you at all, but Korean websites are that way :(
[06:37] <hyphenated> keithhhhhhhhh: I've seen it done via crossover office. I was rather disgusted at the guy who set it up
[06:37] <Toma-> keithhhhhhhhh, you can run IE thru wine
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> get spyware on your wine install...
[06:37] <wastrel> MindFreak:  also ctrl-alt-backspace will force quit if you should need to do that
[06:37] <keithhhhhhhhh> Toma - cool
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> makes ya woner what a site would be doing that would REQUIRE activeX
[06:37] <MindFreak> don do nothing
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> Dr_Willis: heh lol
[06:38] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - well Korean websites also require citizen numbers
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> i can only think of 2 reasons for it. (sites that i use that need ActiveX stuff)
[06:38] <Toma-> keithhhhhhhhh, http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[06:38] <hyphenated> Dr_Willis: wine can run some viruses just fine
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> hyphenated,  i use wine to install spyware - so i can see what it put where. :P
[06:38] <wastrel> coir:  how'd it go?
[06:38] <coir> wastrel, didn't work still.
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> Dr_Willis: hmm looks like the spyware is eating through my *nix box... I'll have to re-install ;)
[06:38] <wastrel> coir:  check in /etc/X11/  see if you have any backup xorg.conf files
[06:38] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - its hard to explain but Korean websites arent programmed using standards, they are programmed around IE
[06:39] <Toma-> ubotu, tell coir about fixres
[06:39] <coir> wastrel, there's an xorg.conf
[06:39] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: iirc, Netscape 8 has both IE and FF engine on it, and if that's the case, there might be a linux version
[06:39] <MindFreak> ah that worked
[06:39] <MindFreak> thx
[06:39] <MindFreak> some kinda bug or somthing
[06:39] <MindFreak> ?
[06:40] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - even though I use windows I dont use Outlook, IE (except for Korean websites) or even media player
[06:40] <wastrel> coir:  any xorg.conf.092206 or anything like that?
[06:40] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - or even messenger ;)
[06:40] <keithhhhhhhhh> dr - or word
[06:40] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: why the hell would you require citizen numbers to visit korean site? I don't understand at all
[06:41] <keithhhhhhhhh> hatake - hehhehe Korean web is totally different
[06:41] <wastrel> MindFreak:  dunno, i haven't used the livecd... gnome panel does die on me from time to time
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> hatake_kakashi,  heh - i dont even think we want to get started on this topic! :p
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[06:41] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hatake - whats your feeling on micro payments?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> somthing sounds 'odd' there. :p
[06:41] <wastrel> anyone good with postfix?
[06:42] <Toma-> keithhhhhhhhh, tried opera?
[06:42] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hatake - see since many korean websites require citizen number they can make micropayments easily and it makes korean sites awsome.
[06:42] <coir> wastrel, nope, just xorg.conf
[06:42] <keithhhhhhhhh> Toma - doesnt work with Korean sites that I want to go to
[06:42] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: I hope you don't mean visiting .pk sites, I have a chipset for PCI RAID card which is made from South Korea. Their site doesn't seem to ask me for citizen number
[06:42] <Toma-> i c
[06:42] <keithhhhhhhhh> Toma - I use firefox but all respect to Opera  ;)
[06:42] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: ah
[06:42] <hatake_kakashi> Dr_Willis: heh
[06:42] <jumpkick> err anyone here have a Voodoo3 video card?
[06:42] <Harp> Hmm, I know what he's talking about
[06:43] <Harp> korean sites require a korean SSN a LOT
[06:43] <wastrel> coir:  hmm i don't know how xfce handles video resolution, but you should be able to fix it by editing your xorg.conf - i was hoping there'd be automatic backups
[06:43] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hatake - well I do cam chatting in Korea  ;)
[06:43] <hatake_kakashi> Harp: not for aralion.kr
[06:43] <coir> hmm
[06:43] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hatake - and a bit of gaming  ;)
[06:43] <Harp> any kind of membership usually requires it
[06:43] <Harp> like most of the MMORPGs
[06:43] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: hmm
[06:43] <Harp> and cafe
[06:43] <Harp> and e-mails
[06:43] <wastrel> coir:  you could also try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <keithhhhhhhhh> yup
[06:43] <hatake_kakashi> Harp: hmm
[06:43] <Harp> any kind of membership. -__-
[06:44] <keithhhhhhhhh> I agree with Harp
[06:44] <coir> wastrel, which line should I be editing in xorg?
[06:44] <Harp> Lucky me, I still have mine ;D
[06:44] <wastrel> coir:  toward the bottom you'll see display depth lines
[06:44] <hatake_kakashi> actually, .pk is pakistan lol.. umm Nth Korea is probably .pr?
[06:45] <coir> There's a few.
[06:45] <wastrel> coir find Default Depth
[06:45] <Harp> north korea has internet?
[06:45] <keithhhhhhhhh> hatake - I doubt there is any north korean sites yet hehe
[06:45] <wastrel> and edit the mode lines for that depth
[06:45] <wastrel> should be all you need
[06:45] <coir> found
[06:45] <Harp> Korea = South Korea
[06:45] <Harp> North Korea = North Korea.
[06:45] <keithhhhhhhhh> harp - well ya the Leader probably has porn coming into NK but only for himself  ;)
[06:45] <wastrel> there's also a little line in between them
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> that seems Unfair. :P
[06:45] <hatake_kakashi> Harp: well there is a game called DracMu or something, and it doesn't require you to have citizen number.. if that was the case, then I wonder how do foreigners play it
[06:46] <wastrel> that's "middle korea"
[06:46] <wastrel> but nobody lives there
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> a little line... with a minefield.. :P
[06:46] <Harp> heh
[06:46] <Harp> we call that the 38 line.
[06:46] <Harp> XD it's nowhere near the 38 line though.
[06:46] <Kyo> how do I switch to the root account?
[06:46] <Kyo> in terminal
[06:46] <Harp> su root
[06:46] <keithhhhhhhhh> hatake - Korea is finally making their games for international markets
[06:46] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hatake but its a recent development
[06:46] <wastrel> sudo su root
[06:47] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: hmm
[06:47] <Harp> :d hmm.. how smart of them.. but..
[06:47] <wastrel> su root would require a root password which ubuntu doesn't have
[06:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hatake - if you play 1 or 2 Korean games you got to imagine there are many you cant
[06:47] <Harp> I wonder how well korean MMOs will fair in an international market
[06:47] <Harp> like ragnarok online.. it's ok, but very few places are as wired as korea..
[06:47] <Kyo> wastrel, nuts ...
[06:47] <Kyo> I need to log in as root
[06:47] <Harp> I still love that game though. XD
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> considering  the slump in the MMORPG market right now.. :P i would not say its good..
[06:47] <Kyo> hmmm let me try sudo then
[06:48] <atoponce> Kyo, you can set root.  it is just disabled, but easy to enable
[06:48] <keithhhhhhhhh> Harp - my opinion if Korean games could find away to allow micropayments and really promoted well they could sell lots of stuff
[06:48] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: ahh well, it was just a question out of curiousity, I don't play MMORPG games anyway, but it'd be funny if I play a game from Korea that requires it. I'd probably have to fake one
[06:48] <atoponce> Kyo, you should use 'sudo' though
[06:48] <Kyo> atoponce, eh yeah, I'll stick with sudo
[06:48] <Kyo> btw, whats sudo?
[06:48] <keithhhhhhhhh> hatake - I dont play mmorpgs either
[06:48] <Harp> I really don't like how there's so much reliance on IE/korean SSN/MSNm in korea.
[06:48] <atoponce> Kyo, "switch user and do" something
[06:48] <hatake_kakashi> and fyi under IANA ccTLD listing, there seems to be a Nth Koera on the list
[06:48] <keithhhhhhhhh> H - I play Kart Rider  ;) its a mario kart clone
[06:49] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: ah
[06:49] <Harp> I wish they'd be a bit more crappy-computer compatible.
[06:49] <atoponce> it launches commands based on the group you belong to in the sudoers file
[06:49] <keithhhhhhhhh> hatake- ya NKorea has a domain
[06:49] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hatake - just no one has internet
[06:49] <Kyo> atoponce,  so when I sudo is it switching to root?
[06:49] <Harp> A lot of korean sites are very heavy to load - they have like all the latest javascript just and flash menus
[06:49] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: heh
[06:49] <Kyo> Harp, haha thats so true
[06:49] <Harp> it's overwhelming. Plus I have to set my safety settings to practically nonexistant to get anything to work
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> lots of programmers with too much time on their hands...
[06:49] <atoponce> by default.  you can use sudo with any user on the system
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:49] <keithhhhhhhhh> harp then when you log in and use something its done with active x
[06:49] <Harp> not to mention install this software and that software to gain access to some files.
[06:50] <Harp> Korean sites are practically raping my computer ~~;; (and my SSN, if I ever surrender it.)
[06:50] <keithhhhhhhhh> Harp - well the cool thing is that Korean websites assume your on broadband thats why the sites are multimedia intenstive  ;)
[06:50] <wastrel> cute:   354 go ahead punk, make my day
[06:50] <wastrel> smtp response
[06:50] <hatake_kakashi> theres a fair few asian websites that are full of fancy stuff, not just Korean ones
[06:50] <keithhhhhhhhh> Harp - hahahhaa
[06:50] <Harp> which is nice and all, really, but I .. I don't usually just run firefox or IE.
[06:51] <Kyo> My machine is lagging a bit ... is this normal? Its a 256 RAM + P3 (or P4)
[06:51] <Harp> I usually run a few other processes (trillian, a media player, irc, maybe a game or two, photoshop sometimes)
[06:51] <Kyo> I'm running breezy heh
[06:51] <atoponce> Kyo, what software are you running?  firefox?  the caching feature chews up your ram
[06:51] <Harp> I know something is wrong when firefox is taking up almost 100MB of ram Oo;
[06:51] <keithhhhhhhhh> Harp - have you tried GOM player?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Kyo,  could be some service or somting is going on in the Background.
[06:52] <fresh> akant  you there?
[06:52] <keithhhhhhhhh> Harp - my firefox is using about that much ram to but I have about 15 tabs hehe
[06:52] <Kyo> atoponce, yeah I'm running firefox ...
[06:52] <Kyo> Dr_Willis, Hmm I'm not runnning any program really,
[06:52] <Harp> oops. linux* XD don't kick me!
[06:52] <atoponce> Kyo, how long have you had it up today?  how many tabs did you have open?
[06:52] <keithhhhhhhhh> Harp - also soon a new firefox will be released soon
[06:52] <Kyo> just x-chat, firefox and terminal
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Kyo,  theres serices and cron jobs that may be going on.
[06:53] <Kyo> atoponce, 12+ hours ...
[06:53] <Kyo> heh
[06:53] <atoponce> yeah.  restart firefox
[06:53] <atoponce> that will clear up your ram
[06:53] <keithhhhhhhhh> Harp - I also heard that some people find that FF has memory leaks
[06:53] <Kyo> hmm how would I do that? close FF?
[06:53] <Kyo> Dr_Willis, whats a cron jobs
[06:53] <fresh> the Firefox memory thing is a "feature"
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> FF has a 'grab all ya can and cache stuff' feature also
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:53] <atoponce> keithhhhhhhhh- it's a cahing feature, not a memory leak
[06:53] <hatake_kakashi> Kyo: schedule
[06:53] <Harp> haha. an "undocumented feature"
[06:53] <fresh> haha
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> kyo programs that run at scheduled times.
[06:54] <fresh> too many tabs will do that
[06:54] <atoponce> you can disable it if you don't like it...
[06:54] <keithhhhhhhhh> ato okay  I have a gig of memory so I havent experienced it
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Kyo,  example woule be the 'updatedb' task - that keeps 'find' up to date
[06:54] <wastrel> i like me some updatedb
[06:54] <atoponce> memory leaks are not uncommon with software that complicated, however.
[06:54] <Harp> Eh.. I have a gig of ram but... I'm a graphics intensive winxp tablet user.. so lol. my fault.
[06:54] <wastrel> i usually run it manually on my laptop before i use locate
[06:54] <Kyo> Dr_Willis, I see. say, are you really a doctor?
[06:55] <keithhhhhhhhh> harp hehe ya I just run to much also
[06:55] <keithhhhhhhhh> but 512 is good
[06:55] <hatake_kakashi> Dr_Willis: you mean updatedb for locate rather than find? :)
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> hatake_kakashi,  yea thats it. :p
[06:55] <keithhhhhhhhh> 1 gig is great ;)
[06:55] <zamolxes> hi. so I installed breezy, but using the default sources I can't seem to find some of my favourite apps. like audacity, the msttcorefonts package  or midnight commander . What additional sources should I use? Also, what sources should I add in order to play movies? I need kplayer, codecs and such. Thanks!
[06:55] <Harp> Gosh... I wish I could get my laptop to dual boot. ..but last time I attempted that I lost +200GB of data.
[06:55] <Kyo> Harp, ouch
[06:56] <Kyo> Harp, it isn't that hard ...
[06:56] <Harp> I'm still in the process of recovering parts of it..
[06:56] <Harp> parts of it in forums of AHHH#@$%#$^&%&*^(&^*&%^$!!
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> zamolxes,  :P the wiki/forums cover the repos I think. lol.. lets see if the bot has a url
[06:56] <Harp> in the forum of*
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> !sources
[06:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:56] <zamolxes> thank you
[06:57] <Kyo> eh, I'm pretty much at a stand still with ubuntu ... I'm sure I can make it more useful. Any programs I should download?
[06:57] <Harp> :x I'd really appreciate an autmatic installer in ubuntu for making a dual-boot system, but I get the feeling if something was possible, someone would've already made it.
[06:57] <Kyo> Hmm any music download program in linux?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> kyo check the p2p wiki page. :P
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> kyo there are several
[06:57] <Kyo> Harp, as an experience I duel boot ubuntu and WinXP, it works great
[06:57] <Harp> The partitioning thing is a kind of tricky...
[06:58] <Kyo> then I was like, bah, so I just installed ubuntu for the whole partition
[06:58] <Harp> I had to try several times in SuSE.
[06:58] <Kyo> Hmm not quite, you install windows leave a 10 gbs as unpartition
[06:58] <hatake_kakashi> heh, my box only has linux on it, no windows = no bloatware put simply
[06:58] <Kyo> then you install ubuntu and let it use the unpartition space ...
[06:58] <Kyo> I know, before using ubuntu I tried duel booting redhat and windows
[06:58] <wastrel> i resized my windows partition and installed ubu in the free space
[06:58] <Harp> dual*
[06:59] <Kyo> I had to throw away my old PC because of that (long story -- I busted my power source)
[06:59] <wastrel> i only use windows for WoW though
[06:59] <Kyo> Harp, or you can get a cheap laptop/PC and install ubunutu on it
[06:59] <Harp> Sounds simple but I really.. learned my lesson after losing both my master and slave drive after ubuntu went install crazy ~~;
[06:59] <keithhhhhhhhh> is there any good widget like toys for ubuntu?
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> !superkaramba
[07:00] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> gnome = gdesklets
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> kde = karamba/superkaramba
[07:00] <wastrel> feh
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> both = lots of eye candy :P
[07:00] <wastrel> useless eye candy
[07:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> cool
[07:01] <Kyo> rwar.
[07:01] <spazzz> Hey.. Does anyone here have any experiance with ImageMagik
[07:01] <keithhhhhhhhh> BTW how easy is it to upgrade your desktop?
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> wastrel: I don't like too much eyecandy anyway
[07:01] <spazzz> I just have a really quick question
[07:01] <Kyo> keithhhhhhhhh, easy =)
[07:01] <peej> spazzz: ask the question
[07:01] <Kyo> spazzz, don't ask to ask, just ask
[07:01] <keithhhhhhhhh> cool
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> if you run all your apps full screen. then the gdesklet/karamba stuff - is a little useless :P
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> btw is there any iPod 5th gen (iPod with video) music transferer available in Gnome? I only know amaroK for KDE can do it
[07:03] <spazzz> peej: Ok... Basicly i'm making a series of Icons and I want to convert them down from one size to a smaller one.. Now I already figured out how to use the convert command to take all the images from one directory, resize them and put them in another.  The probum is I need the filenames preserved and convert wants to rename everything
[07:04] <bosco> has anyone gotten suspend 2 working
[07:05] <spazzz> I tried using the command "convert *.png -resize 72x72 /newdir/*.png" and it renames everything 01 02 ect.
[07:06] <spazzz> I also tried "convert *.png -resize 72x72 /newdir/$img" and that does not work either
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. why do ya need to conver tehm smaller? most of the ones i make get scaled by the window manager.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> of course Im just making a few icons hwere and there.
[07:07] <glick> hey anyone runnin the xubuntu desktop?
[07:07] <spazzz> Dr.Willis: Because its a compleate set and the WM scaling function doesn't always do the best looking of jobs
[07:07] <glick> how is that compared to ubuntu
[07:07] <atoponce> glick, yeah- it's completely mouse driven, but smooth and good
[07:07] <rage`> damn it, my isp seems to have been blacklisted on undernet :o
[07:07] <glick> atoponce, no icons right?
[07:08] <atoponce> glick, plenty of icons.  where'd you hear that?
[07:08] <bosco> has anyone gotten suspend 2 working
[07:08] <sampan> rage`  are you sure?  most undernet servers block your connection if you don't have identd server running
[07:08] <glick> atoponce, i thought it didnt have icons on the desktop
[07:08] <bosco> hey what is the usb drive name in ubuntu
[07:09] <sampan> rage`  there are only a few undernet servers that let non-identd clients connect (try mesa.az.us.undernet.org for one ... and helsinki.fi.eu.undernet.org is another)
[07:09] <timfrost> spazzz, try 'for f in *.png; do convert $f -resize 72x72 /newdir/$f;done'
[07:09] <atoponce> glick, ahh not by default.  i think you can add them though
[07:09] <glick> they have xubunt screenshot anywhere?
[07:09] <keithhhhhhhhh> Do you think Ubuntu would run on a P1 with 80megs of ram?
[07:09] <hatake_kakashi> glick: google
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  i ran it on such a machine.
[07:10] <spazzz> timfrost: alright hang on one sec
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  the isntall takes forever.. but it can run
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  and youwill watn to use a minimal desktop.
[07:10] <keithhhhhhhhh> a notebook actually
[07:10] <atoponce> glick, http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2005-09,GGGL:en&q=xubuntu&sa=N&tab=wi
[07:10] <nick01> keithhhhhhhhh, just don't try to use firefox on it :)
[07:11] <keithhhhhhhhh> ok well I tried and my screen went all melted colours during the installation
[07:11] <atoponce> i guess not the best.  :)
[07:11] <spazzz> tim frost: Ok im not quite sure I understand you....
[07:11] <atoponce> glick, better: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=517&slide=25
[07:12] <spazzz> Does that mean I enter "convert $f -resize 72x72 /newdir/$f"?
[07:12] <glick> coo thanks
[07:12] <atoponce> np
[07:13] <atoponce> built to compare to CDE for the old UNIX systems
[07:13] <jetscreamer> !timfrost++
[07:13] <amonkey> so i just fragged my system
[07:13] <amonkey> prolly gonna crash soon
[07:13] <Kyo> hm
[07:13] <atoponce> gotta love cde
[07:13] <spazzz> timfrost: because if so i don't think that worked..
[07:13] <hatake_kakashi> anyone know whats amaroK's equivalent on Gnome? or at least a music player that can export music onto iPod?
[07:14] <timfrost> spazzz, convert seems to work best when working with 1 fi;e rather than the entire directory.  My advice was to loop over the source files (for f in *.png), and run convert for the designated file (convert $f -resize 72x72 /newdir/$f) writing to output file newdir/$f.
[07:14] <jetscreamer> just install amarok
[07:14] <atoponce> hatake, listen
[07:14] <hatake_kakashi> jetscreamer: lol, well I have both KDE and Gnome heh.. but I was really looking for Gnome equivalent rather than using amaroK
[07:14] <hunterp> hi, how can i turn off password for screensaver. i tried once and its not working. i really cant live like this
[07:15] <bosco> hey what is the usb drive name in ubuntu
[07:15] <bosco> has anyone gotten suspend 2 working
[07:15] <jetscreamer> !info listen
[07:15] <atoponce> use listen.  it's awesome
[07:15] <spazzz> timfrost: *Blinks* I don't quite understand what your saying. Im not writing a batch file I was just trying to throw the command out.  Are you saying i'm going to have to do this one at a time?
[07:15] <amonkey> any suggestions for a guy who just overwrote the first 32megs of his active boot partition by accident?
[07:15] <jetscreamer> [00.15.10]  <ubotu> Package 'listen' does not exist.
[07:15] <spazzz> If so then what is the point of using imagemagic for this sort of thing over Gimp?
[07:15] <atoponce> not in the packages.  you'd have to manually download it
[07:15] <jetscreamer> apt-get install hexedit maybe monkey... or some other helper type
[07:15] <atoponce> *repos
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> atoponce: and that can deal with iPod?
[07:16] <Kyo> Hmmm
[07:16] <jetscreamer> at least run grub-install again
[07:16] <atoponce> not sure.  i don't have one.  :)
[07:16] <Kyo> Is it possible to apt-get KDE?
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> atoponce: blah lol
[07:16] <wastrel> i would imagine so
[07:16] <atoponce> Kyo- apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <jetscreamer> !info kde
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> Kyo: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <ubotu> kde: (The K Desktop Environment), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[07:16] <atoponce> jinx!
[07:16] <amonkey> i was thinking i will prolly have to completly reinstall linux cuz of this
[07:17] <amonkey> ...
[07:17] <hatake_kakashi> meh
[07:17] <jetscreamer> !depends kubuntu-desktop
[07:17] <krz> whats kubuntu-desktop
[07:17] <timfrost> spazzz, yes,  convert seems to work on one file at a time, and not over an entire directory :(
[07:17] <krz> ?
[07:17] <jetscreamer> oops'
[07:17] <atoponce> krz- ubuntu with kde
[07:17] <hatake_kakashi> lol jetscreamer nice one :D
[07:17] <krz> yuck
[07:17] <hatake_kakashi> krz: KDE
[07:17] <bosco> krz KDE
[07:17] <bosco> i recomend ubuntu out of the box though
[07:18] <atoponce> gnome is okay.  xfce is better.  :)
[07:18] <hatake_kakashi> tty > * :p
[07:18] <jetscreamer> \o/
[07:18] <jetscreamer> !botsnack
[07:18] <ubotu> thanks jetscreamer :)
[07:18] <italy> hi all
[07:18] <spazzz> timfrost: Well that stinks.. I might as well just use Gimp then
[07:18] <italy> just fixing a few problems
[07:18] <zamolxes> ok, so for playing movies, google says i should add deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free and get the codecs from ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ . do you recommend something else?
[07:18] <bosco> if you run e17 then ubuntu is really good but just out of the box it is the best
[07:19] <spazzz> timfrost: Oh well thanks for the help
[07:19] <bosco> MPLAYER
[07:19] <wastrel> amonkey:  ouch what's left in /boot ?
[07:19] <wastrel> amonkey:  or is the whole partition toast
[07:19] <Kyo> I'm not sure if KDE is worth installing
[07:19] <Kyo> any advantage it has over Gnome?
[07:19] <hunterp> hi, how can i turn off password for screensaver. i tried once and its not working. i really cant live like this
[07:19] <atoponce> it's bloatware
[07:19] <amonkey> wastrel, i can't even see / cuz ls is gone. command not found
[07:19] <bosco> kyo i would go with e17
[07:19] <italy> WHAT THE FUCK
[07:19] <wastrel> Kyo:  some people like the interface better
[07:19] <italy> GOOGLE IS DOWN
[07:19] <zamolxes> bosco: yes, mplayer is a program one could use to play movies. One would also need codecs, hence my question :)
[07:19] <calc_> atoponce: that happens to take less ram to run ;)
[07:19] <krz> whats the difference between a wm like fluxbox and a wm like kahakai? anyone know?
[07:19] <italy> HAHAHAH
[07:20] <wastrel> amonkey:  ohhh it's not /boot you killed it's /
[07:20] <Kyo> bosco, E17?
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> Enlightment Kyo
[07:20] <Kyo> italy, yo sure? *checks*
[07:20] <italy> yeah
[07:20] <italy> first time ever google has been down
[07:20] <Kyo> hatake_kakashi, screen shots?
[07:20] <Mosi> hey folks
[07:20] <tritium> italy: watch the language please
[07:20] <atoponce> google is up for me
[07:20] <calc_> Kyo: much more configurable than gnome but doesn't look as good imho
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> Kyo: google
[07:20] <bosco> Kyo, never mind wrong room
[07:20] <sampan> google works fine here
[07:20] <wastrel> amonkey:  i'd call that a re-install :/
[07:20] <Kyo> Hmm ok
[07:20] <calc_> Kyo: uses less memory than gnome as well afaik
[07:20] <bosco> Kyo,  do you know what e17 is
[07:21] <wastrel> amonkey:  is /home on a separate partition?
[07:21] <Kyo> bosco, no
[07:21] <bosco> Kyo that suprises me
[07:21] <spazzz> Googles good here
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> e17 is Enlightment, probably version 1.7 or something
[07:21] <Mosi> is anyone here running a dual-boot PPC, with OS X?
[07:21] <spazzz> I think someone has a DNS glitch
[07:21] <End_User> well spazzz fell for it
[07:21] <italy> I don't have a good damn thing
[07:21] <italy> god damn it eld
[07:21] <bosco> hatake_kakashi,  yes it is i have the latest version i just updated
[07:21] <tritium> italy: grr...
[07:21] <calc_> i use KDE at work and Gnome at home
[07:21] <italy> :D
[07:21] <End_User> I said the exact same thing lol
[07:21] <italy> tritium, hey
[07:21] <italy> don't ban me
[07:21] <timfrost> !bot
[07:21] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:21] <Mosi> Gnome for Home
[07:21] <End_User> ban his ass :P
[07:22] <italy> hey
[07:22] <End_User> no dont he cant live without you guys
[07:22] <italy> I'm not trolling
[07:22] <spazzz> End_User: fell for what?  I happened to be searching with it when I saw that
[07:22] <Kyo> Well ....
[07:22] <End_User> spazzz ah nvermind
[07:22] <italy> anyway
[07:22] <italy> is e17 still in development?
[07:22] <tritium> italy: we're cool as long as you don't curse, especially in all caps
[07:22] <End_User> spazzz on another server he made 3 people check to see if it was working and then he was all.. I'm going to try this in #ubuntu
[07:22] <italy> tritium, well i thought google was down
[07:23] <italy> wouldn't you go ape crap?
[07:23] <bosco> italy, yes it is but if you know what you are doing you should have no problem running it
[07:23] <calc_> gnome people are working on making it use less ram though
[07:23] <bosco> it is stll buggy
[07:23] <atoponce> google has been down before.  it wouldn't be a first.
[07:23] <Mosi> End_User: did he tell them the address was 127.0.0.1? :P
[07:23] <Kyo> E17 looks nice but its still in pre-alpha stage ...
[07:23] <Cwiiis> Hi - I've upgraded to dapper, but now my machine won't boot :) (I was expecting as much, no biggie) - It seems it doesn't load the sata_nv module my hard-drive needs anymore perhaps, is there any known fix for this?
[07:23] <tritium> italy: not really, it takes a lot more to make me upset
[07:23] <keithhhhhhhhh> what desktop comes with Ubuntu?
[07:23] <Kyo> I'll stick to a more stable version heh
[07:23] <spazzz> End_User: Ahh,  Well i think he needs a nap.  I was just searching to see if I can find some way to easily batch convert a whole bunch of .png files
[07:23] <amonkey> wastrel, no. i'm gonna go cry now
[07:23] <bosco> Kyo then go with e16 that has been out for about 6 years
[07:23] <Kyo> keithhhhhhhhh, gnome
[07:23] <sampan> keithhhhhhhhh  gnome
[07:23] <italy> tritium, ok, all your comps catch fire and your monitor explodes in your face.
[07:23] <Mosi> lol
[07:23] <atoponce> keith- gnome
[07:23] <Kyo> bosco, haha ...
[07:23] <calc_> Cwiiis: you can add the module to the load list in yaird conf file and rebuild the initrd
[07:23] <bosco> kyo hah
[07:23] <bosco> a
[07:23] <italy> then what?
[07:23] <atoponce> unfortuantely
[07:24] <tritium> italy: that would suck, but it's also offtopic...
[07:24] <italy> spazzz, get irfanview
[07:24] <bosco> kyo what?
[07:24] <calc_> Cwiiis: i don't know the exact details on how to do that, i had to do it a few months ago for debian
[07:24] <Kyo> It looks very mac-ish
[07:24] <wastrel> amonkey:  sucks :[
[07:24] <Mosi> is anyone here running on a mac?
[07:24] <keithhhhhhhhh> why would one use Gnome vs KDE?
[07:24] <italy> tritium, the big OT
[07:24] <italy> I PULLED AN OT
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> keithhhhhhhhh,  try them both.. pick what you perfer.
[07:24] <calc_> keithhhhhhhhh: its prettier than kde
[07:24] <Cwiiis> calc_: Do you know if there's a how-to anywhere for that?
[07:24] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: different tastes
[07:24] <spazzz> italy: I'd go get a fire extingqisher and build another box from the spare parts I have.  No biggie
[07:24] <atoponce> frankly keith, i would use either xfce or blackbox
[07:24] <End_User> heh
[07:25] <keithhhhhhhhh> same software?
[07:25] <Kyo> bosco, the interact looks like a MAC
[07:25] <calc_> Cwiiis: from what i recall the config file explained where to stick the module names
[07:25] <wastrel> keithhhhhhhhh:  it's mostly a matter of personal preference.  they both have good & bad points
[07:25] <Kyo> *mac
[07:25] <ctaborda> Hi everyone... im having some problems loading a USB drive with with WRITE permissions aswell.. not as READ ONLY FILE SYSTEM... how can I do this?
[07:25] <atoponce> yeah
[07:25] <italy> actually i need to install ubuntu
[07:25] <calc_> Cwiiis: after doing that reinstalling the kernel will cause the initrd to be rebuilt
[07:25] <wahyu> dear all how to play MP3 in ubuntu ?
[07:25] <wabble> i startet with gnome, then used kde for a long time. But i got tired of bugs on the networking so i am back in gnome land
[07:25] <bosco> kyo i know that i didnt know why you thought it was so funny
[07:25] <yves> Yay!
[07:25] <timfrost> !mp3
[07:25] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <keithhhhhhhhh> well Im going to stick with Gnome at first
[07:25] <italy> wahyu, MP3 support isn't native
[07:25] <italy> !mp3
[07:25] <Mosi> ctaborda: does it have a rw/ro switch on it?
[07:25] <bosco> kyo i ran e16 for about 1 year
[07:25] <italy> ehhh
[07:25] <hatake_kakashi> keithhhhhhhhh: no different software, KDE != Gnome and vice versa.
[07:25] <Cwiiis> calc_: Ah right, thanks - So I guess using the LiveCD and mounting the disk like that is in order?
[07:25] <italy> !tell wahyu mp3
[07:26] <Kyo> bosco, how you liked it?
[07:26] <Yverz> Yay Yay!
[07:26] <ctaborda> Mosi, its an ipod
[07:26] <Mosi> is anyone here using a mac?
[07:26] <bosco> Kyo then i switched to e17 a little while ago after it got stable enough to run
[07:26] <Yverz> <- First ubuntu experience - running great- installed tons o stuff from the getgo.
[07:26] <italy> my ipod works mint in ubuntu
[07:26] <Mosi> ctaborda: lol, oh :P can't help you then.
[07:26] <italy> i use rhythmbox
[07:26] <italy> but whatever
[07:26] <calc_> Cwiiis: if you can boot an older kernel you could do that, for a fresh install not really sure what to do
[07:26] <atoponce> Mosi- not right now, but i have an ibook
[07:26] <Kyo> I'll get KDE 3.4 ... looks very nice from the screen shots =)
[07:26] <ctaborda> why:S oh god
[07:26] <calc_> Cwiiis: you could chroot to the installed image and then reinstall the kernel on the drive i guess
[07:26] <bosco> kyo it got done what i needed it to but i e17 is so much better but buggy right now that is the only problem
[07:26] <Smeggy> I'm using a mac
[07:27] <Mosi> atoponce: i need a copy of yaboot.conf that's set up for dual-booting :(
[07:27] <calc_> Cwiiis: but if you don't know linux pretty well it could get hard
[07:27] <nomin> I would like to start a debate.  Should people be allowed to charge home users for installing linux on their pc?
[07:27] <Mosi> Smeggy: is it a dual-boot with OS X?
[07:27] <bosco> Kyo i liked it but i like e17 much better
[07:27] <Cwiiis> calc_: Seems I'm being hit by https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/28614 - I'll chroot in and install an older version
[07:27] <Kyo> bosco, I see ...
[07:27] <Smeggy> Mosi: no :/
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> nomin,  from a legal/gpl point of view - yes. :) its a service.
[07:27] <tritium> nomin: please don't start an offtopic debate here
[07:27] <Mosi> smeggy: =(
[07:27] <wahyu> italy : rhytmbox right ??
[07:27] <calc_> Cwiiis: when i ran into the problem before i was using my own installer program so i just had it fixup the kernel during installation
[07:27] <Smeggy> Mosi: what do you need from the config? the osx options?
[07:27] <Mosi> smeggy: thanks anyways
[07:27] <wabble> by the way, how do i change default m3u player back to rhythmbox in firefox after mplayer installation?
[07:27] <atoponce> well, i don't have my ibook dual booted, so i don't think i have the file you're looking for
[07:27] <italy> wahyu, yeah
[07:28] <calc_> Cwiiis: yea maybe so
[07:28] <atoponce> it runx 10.3.9
[07:28] <atoponce> *runs
[07:28] <Mosi> smeggy: basically, yeah. i blew up my yaboot, and i jsut got a gentoo live CD with yaboot, so i can reconfig it, but the CD doesn't come with a yaboot.conf that has the proper os x options. if i forget anything, i might not be able to boot at all, and that would be bad-cakes
[07:28] <calc_> Cwiiis: the problem that bit me was that the buslogic driver doesn't register with sysfs correctly
[07:28] <calc_> which is what vmware uses
[07:28] <Cwiiis> calc_: Ah well, it's all fun I s'pose :)
[07:29] <wahyu> italy, ok i'll try to find
[07:29] <Mosi> smeggy: as it is the first stage works alright, so i can boot into OS X, but i have no stage 2 boot labels, so i can't boot ubuntu
[07:29] <bosco> does anyone have suspend 2 working in ubuntu mine is not working
[07:29] <calc_> well i'm going to bed now, bbl
[07:29] <nomin> Dr_Willis, tritium, I don't think this is offtopic.  I think there are some linux people that don't like the idea that linux might go to 'ordianary people'.
[07:29] <Smeggy> damn
[07:29] <atoponce> bosco- nope.  i wish
[07:29] <tritium> nomin: it's offtopic
[07:29] <atoponce> maybe in dapper
[07:29] <Mosi> smeggy: yeah, it's a bummer
[07:30] <hatake_kakashi> nomin: its not directly related to ubuntu
[07:30] <tritium> bosco: edit your /etc/default/acpi-support
[07:30] <calc_> the only thing holding ordinary people back now is their wanting random windows apps to run on their system
[07:30] <nomin> tritium, where should I go for this topic?
[07:30] <calc_> like ebay autolisters, etc
[07:30] <tritium> nomin: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:30] <wastrel> nomin:  who's going to stop you?  there's no law against it.  'nuff said
[07:30] <calc_> i almost converted my non techie brother to ubuntu last year
[07:30] <bosco> trituim i did that what is the default image for it
[07:30] <calc_> he switched back due to ebay software
[07:30] <Mosi> smeggy: *smack* wow, i feel special. i'm gonna go mount my linux partition and copy from that yaboot.conf, lol
[07:30] <tritium> bosco: what do you mean?
[07:30] <Smeggy> haha
[07:30] <Mosi> >_>
[07:30] <Mosi> <_<
[07:30] <Mosi> shh
[07:30] <Mosi> lol
[07:30] <tritium> Mosi: stop that please
[07:31] <bosco> i have already tried that is what i am saying
[07:31] <atoponce> ?
[07:31] <Mosi> tritium: apologies
[07:31] <ryman> !tell ryman about cil
[07:31] <yuri_> hi... can someone tell me of a site where i can learn more about linux that isnt overly technical? I like how-tos
[07:31] <tritium> bosco: did you enable ACPI_SLEEP?
[07:32] <ryman> !tell ryman about cli
[07:32] <bosco> yes
[07:32] <bosco> tritium yes
[07:32] <eclair[busy] > yuri_: the wiki.
[07:32] <hatake_kakashi> yuri_: tldp.org
[07:32] <wastrel> !tell yuri_ about rute
[07:32] <tritium> bosco: what is not working?
[07:32] <Yverz> <== happy happy joy joy, first time got ubuntu up and running :)
[07:32] <bosco> tritium, one sec i will tell you
[07:32] <eclair[busy] > Yverz: good for you :)
[07:32] <atoponce> Yverz, congrats!
[07:33] <yuri_> thanks guys!
[07:33] <Yverz> running it side-by-side with my windoze.   When I get the courage, I'll redo  my box and have a teenie windows partition instead.
[07:33] <atoponce> welcom manicka!
[07:33] <atoponce> *welcome
[07:33] <freelzee> i need to know how to set the speed of a network connection permanently for a network connection to 10baseT but can't remember how to do it / how to make it permanent
[07:33] <manicka> hi
[07:33] <freelzee> redundancy ++++
[07:34] <bosco> tritium, i need to reset the  [modules_image]  [kernel_headers] 
[07:34] <hatake_kakashi> freelzee: iptables may help
[07:34] <atoponce> manicka- were you able to send off that log of the meeting?
[07:35] <tritium> bosco: I'm talking about /etc/default/acpi-support
[07:35] <tritium> not sure what you're referring to
[07:35] <bosco> i know
[07:35] <manicka> yeah, didn't send you one
[07:35] <manicka> pm, me your email again
[07:35] <monzie> e
[07:35] <bosco> Tritium what are the [modules_image]  [kernel_headers]  in ubuntu
[07:36] <tritium> bosco: what are you trying to do?
[07:37] <atoponce> got it?
[07:37] <bosco> i need to know that info to get it working again i am redoing it [modules_image]  [kernel_headers] 
[07:37] <tritium> bosco: you're not making any sense
[07:38] <manicka> no
[07:38] <bosco> tritium, srry we must not be on the same page
[07:38] <freelzee> when trying to set the speed i'm using: "ifconfig eth1 media 10baseT" but I  get the error "port: SI0CSIFMAP: Operation not supported"
[07:39] <Nameeater> whats the command to update time info?
[07:39] <Nameeater> Im on dialup so I disabled the update on boot as it was useless, but i wouldn't mind running it now
[07:40] <bosco>  tritium  that is what i am trying to do srry if i am not bieng clear i am redoing my hibernatefakeroot make-kpkg clean
[07:40] <bosco> fakeroot make-kpkg --stem linux --append-to-version -suspend2-1 --config menuconfig \
[07:40] <bosco>   --initrd kernel_image [modules_image]  [kernel_headers] 
[07:40] <bosco>     *
[07:40] <bosco>       (!)
[07:40] <tritium> Nameeater: sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate restart
[07:41] <tritium> bosco: why didn't you explain that you're trying to compile a kernel?  We were talking about suspend/acpi-support
[07:41] <Nameeater> ik yagpdh Z(
[07:41] <Nameeater> it failed :(
[07:41] <bosco> tritium, i am srry i am very tired and i wasnt thinking srry do you know what to do
[07:42] <atoponce> i can't seem to get pm or dcc to work.  i'll just fire off another email your way...
[07:42] <tritium> bosco: first, why are you compiling a custom kernel?  (You don't need to for suspend0
[07:42] <tritium> )
[07:42] <bosco> tritium,  then can you point me in the right direction
[07:43] <tritium> bosco: as I said before, edit your /etc/default/acpi-support
[07:43] <atoponce> sent
[07:44] <bosco> tritium, it is not even a directory anymore
[07:44] <tritium> it's a file, bosco.  Did you delete it?
[07:45] <bosco> tritium, yes i did to restart from scratch
[07:45] <tritium> bosco: who on earth told you to do that?
[07:46] <bosco> tritium, me
[07:46] <tritium> bosco: please don't delete system files
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> anyone know how to start X without requiring logging in at tty? i.e. make X start at the login screen rather than having to login to one of the tty to start it from there
[07:47] <bosco> tritium, i can get it back one sec
[07:47] <tritium> hatake_kakashi: default behavior is to have a login manager so you don't have to start X from a tty.
[07:47] <wastrel> hatake_kakashi:  use a display manager
[07:47] <Jivenix> how do you delete a folder and everything in it
[07:48] <wastrel> Jivenix:  rm -r    be very careful with it - there's no undo
[07:48] <Jivenix> ok
[07:48] <amonkey> hey again, it's that guy who wrote over the beginning of his partition. running off my usb key now, i'm having trouble mounting my former boot partition. the first 32mb are gone, but the data should still be there if i could just mount it
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> tritium: the problem is not that, I just did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy whilst on Xorg terminal, but when I logged out of that after the update, X server stopped
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> wastrel: you are not reading me correctly
[07:49] <bosco> tritium, i got it back now what do i do when i try to sudo it it is telling me that there is no command and when i do it without it tells me that permission is denied
[07:49] <tritium> hatake_kakashi: restart the display manager then.
[07:49] <tritium> bosco: it's a config file, not a command to be run.  You should edit it, and enable ACPI_SLEEP
[07:49] <peej> spazzz: actually imagemagick is a good cli tool for that sort of conversion. But only for people who are happy scripting. Else, yeah, use gimp.
[07:49] <hatake_kakashi> tritium: hmm which one would it be under the tty?
[07:49] <tritium> hatake_kakashi: are you using gnome?
[07:50] <monzie> hi
[07:50] <peej> amonkey : use dd_rescue or testdisk
[07:50] <tritium> hatake_kakashi: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:50] <hatake_kakashi> tritium: .. I'm on one of those ttys
[07:50] <tritium> see above
[07:50] <bosco> tritium, how do i do that
[07:50] <hatake_kakashi> tritium: I can't start it
[07:50] <brenner> tritium: is that all that's needed to get suspend to ram working?
[07:50] <tritium> bosco: uncomment the line where tha tis listed
[07:51] <freelzee> i need to know how to set the speed permanently for a network connection to 10baseT but can't remember how to do it
[07:51] <tritium> brenner: that, and then a reboot, and depending on your laptop, sometimes other tweaks
[07:51] <peej> amonkey or gpart - guesses partitions. Try various ones
[07:51] <basic`> i have a serious question here...
[07:51] <freelzee> when trying to set the speed i'm using: "ifconfig eth1 media 10baseT" but I  get the error "port: SI0CSIFMAP: Operation not supported"
[07:52] <Jivenix> how do i copy the contents of a subfolder, into its parent folder
[07:52] <basic`> i effed up my xorg.conf and need to get back to the original xorg.conf i had after installing ubuntu, is there a utility that will do that for me somewhere?
[07:52] <bosco> tritium, # Uncomment the next line to enable ACPI suspend to RAM
[07:52] <bosco> #ACPI_SLEEP=true
[07:52] <bosco>  that line
[07:52] <Jivenix> mv /sub/*.* *.* ?
[07:52] <ba> http://www.mysterien.org/Bilder_News/moontruth.mpeg hahaha
[07:52] <amonkey> peej, the partition table is still there according to fdisk. should i fsck it? and should i clear a bad superblock or will that kill more data
[07:52] <tritium> bosco: yes, that one
[07:52] <hatake_kakashi> tritium: nm I got it working, I forgot sudo, thanks
[07:52] <Mabus06> My friend was having trouble with his ubuntu machine, and he (probably foolhardily) tried to update his bios and it stopped working. No video output at all when he presses power. How would I reinstall his BIOS so I can install ubuntu again?
[07:52] <brenner> Jivenix: mv * ..
[07:52] <brenner> i think
[07:52] <tritium> hatake_kakashi: cool :)
[07:53] <bosco> tritium,  srry i am not with it what do you do to that file
[07:53] <basic> i effed up my xorg.conf and need to get back to the original xorg.conf i had after installing ubuntu, is there a utility that will do that for me somewhere?
[07:53] <tritium> basic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:53] <tritium> bosco: you uncomment that line by removing the "#" at the beginning
[07:53] <basic> thanks man
[07:54] <peej> amonkey : if you know what the partition settings were, use fdisk to make the thing. fsck on an inconsistent partition may do horrible stuff. Have you got your lost partition back?
[07:54] <atoponce> manicka- i sent an email.  i couldn't get gcc or pm to work.
[07:54] <Daverag> God I'm so screwed, I've been doing aptitudes, dpkg configure -a and apt-get install -f endlessly... I always get error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:54] <Jivenix> sweet
[07:54] <Jivenix> thanks
[07:54] <amonkey> peej, the partitions are there, it's the filesystem that's screwed up cuz the beginning of it got overwrote
[07:54] <tritium> Daverag: on dapper, or breezy?
[07:54] <Daverag> dapper
[07:55] <peej> amonkey: is it just /boot that got overwritten?
[07:55] <tritium> Daverag: that's the fun of running development releases, eh?
[07:55] <peej> amonkey : ok , looking through history
[07:55] <bosco>  tritium both lines even  #ACPI_SLEEP=true
[07:55] <Daverag> yeah lots of fun... I had just got fglrx working, installed Xgl and bang everything crapped
[07:55] <tritium> bosco: _only_ the one you pasted just now
[07:55] <brady> heh, I just symbolically linked a directory over to /usr/local/bin.  How do I undo that?
[07:56] <tritium> brady: remove the symlink with sm
[07:56] <tritium> rm
[07:56] <bosco> tritium, and it should work now just hit my power button
[07:56] <amonkey> peej, what happened is i was playing with my ipod and i accidently wrote the ipodfirmware to the first 32megs of my /boot partition, which had my home directory in it
[07:56] <brady> tritium: i tried that but it said it was a directory
[07:56] <tritium> bosco: hold on...did you save it?  It _may_ work after a reboot.  It might also need more tweaking
[07:57] <Daverag> big problem with that package uim-gtk2.0_1%3a1.0.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:57] <tritium> brady: remove the symlink, not the directory
[07:57] <peej> amonkey : probably you screwed up the partion table the disk knows about. If you have a knoppix cd, use that to boot up things, then use testdisk to restore settings as best as possible.
[07:57] <bosco> tritium, i did not save it yet i am still looking at it
[07:57] <peej> amonkey : you had home in /boot? ???
[07:57] <buffarama> what podcast clients work best with ubuntu?
[07:57] <tritium> bosco: save it then, please
[07:58] <peej> amonkey : home is  not by default in /boot in ubuntu
[07:58] <Daverag> buffarama: really depends on your habits, you like to stream, or download automatically?
[07:58] <amonkey> peej, there is the one partition mode that it defautls too
[07:59] <bosco> tritium, i did that now what
[07:59] <tritium> bosco: reboot, and test it.  Like I said, it may need tweaking.
[07:59] <brady> is there anything in the /usr/local/bin directory normally on a clean install?
[07:59] <peej> amonkey: do you have any idea how you set up your system initially? was it a default ubuntu install ?
[07:59] <tritium> no, brady
[07:59] <brady> ok thanks
[08:00] <bosco> tritium,  thank you
[08:00] <amonkey> peej, default newb install, one partition with data, one swap partition.
[08:00] <buffarama> Daverag: download automatically, to transfer to my mp3 player
[08:02] <Daverag> buffarama: check out castpodder
[08:02] <peej> amonkey: OK, apt-get install testdisk onto your usb stick (or use a knoppix cd to boot from). Run testdisk. Let it guess the partitions. Choose a likely one to put into fdisk, write the partition table with fdisk.
[08:03] <Daverag> how can I fix my dependency problems about libfreetype.so.6
[08:03] <peej> testdisk works well for nonextended partitions, which is what you will have with the standard install.
[08:03] <brenner> one for laptop users: how do i disable the horizontal scroll history feature in firefox?
[08:04] <amonkey> peej, i'm on a usb key version of slax. how can i get testdisk in slax?
[08:05] <Tomcat_> brenner: "about:config" => search for mouse stuff... I don't know the exact option.
[08:05] <peej> amonkey: beats me. have you checked it has it testdisk ?
[08:06] <brenner> Tomcat_: heh.  these options are rather cryptic
[08:07] <Tomcat_> brenner: Indeed... but I have never needed the option you're trying to find, so I can't tell you :)
[08:07] <brenner> i'm guessing it's this one: mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action ... but i have no idea what value to replace it with ... currently it's 2. :-/
[08:07] <bosco> tritium,  now it is telling me that my kernal does not have suspend 2 support
[08:07] <peej> amonkey: how about using a ubuntu live cd for the job?
[08:07] <tritium> bosco: are you using a custom kernel?
[08:08] <Tomcat_> brenner: That value is the speed... so maybe 0 is disable. No idea. :)
[08:08] <bosco> tritium, no i am not
[08:08] <brenner> Tomcat_: heh, thanks anyway.
[08:08] <tritium> bosco: what does "uname -a" tell you?
[08:08] <peej> amonkey: slax has something called pkgtool I think
[08:08] <amonkey> peej, i don't have time tonight, i'll do that next week when i get back. i had slax on a key so i just booted it up
[08:09] <bosco> tritium, Linux bosco 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Mon Jan 16 17:18:08 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:09] <amonkey> peej, i got testdisk
[08:10] <bosco> tritium, when i created a custom hibernate kernal it told me big fat eror
[08:10] <Kyo> any other cool irc programs besides x-chat?
[08:10] <Kyo> I was thinking bitchx even ougnt its console (don't mind)
[08:10] <ozzloy_> my wireless card is not connecting.  the router is 5 feet away.  it lists in iwlist eth1 scan, it has essid set, there's no encryption.  any ideas?
[08:10] <peej> Kyo: there is an xbitch around.
[08:10] <bur[n] er> Kyo: irssi :)
[08:10] <ozzloy_> card is on
[08:10] <tritium> bosco: that is a custom kernel, not an ubuntu stock kernel
[08:10] <r0d> lol irssi, good times, good times
[08:10] <Kyo> xbitch heh, alrightly then ...
[08:11] <Kyo> can I do apt-get install xbitch?
[08:11] <brenner> Tomcat_: woohoo, found it: http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Mousewheel..2A
[08:11] <amonkey> peej, what do i do with testdisk? the partition is fine, it's the filesystems that's gone poopy
[08:11] <bosco> tritium then it should work in the stock kernal
[08:11] <brenner> Tomcat_: i'm guessing -1 is disable?
[08:12] <peej> amonkey : does fdisk show you the correct partitions?
[08:12] <amonkey> peej, yes!
[08:12] <tritium> bosco: yes, you're obviously not reading my comments very carefully
[08:12] <r0d> cfdisk is awesome
[08:12] <Tomcat_> brenner: Maybe? :)
[08:12] <r0d> better display..
[08:13] <bosco> tritium, like i said i am half awake and i am srry
[08:13] <tritium> bosco: then let's workon this another time
[08:14] <johnclark> i need help with ubuntu + wireless
[08:14] <peej> amonkey : then you should only have lost 32MB or whatever the ipod wrote. I guess fsck will have to fix it then.
[08:14] <r0d> johnclark, spit it
[08:14] <johnclark> is ndiswrapper the only choice for belkin wireless w/broadcom chip?
[08:14] <bosco> tritium,  if i run the stock kernal it should work right
[08:14] <r0d> johnclark, yea:(
[08:15] <tritium> bosco: most likely yes.  As I've said, it may need some additional tweaking!!!
[08:15] <johnclark> :S
[08:15] <brenner> Tomcat_: well, you're a help. :)  -1 didn't work
[08:15] <bosco> allright
[08:15] <peej> amonkey : you'll probably get lots of crap in /lost+found to look through - maybe you should mount lost+found on another disk?
[08:15] <r0d> johnclark, get a diff card bro. i have intergrated pos broadcom on my laptop. i bought a prismII card
[08:15] <tritium> r0d: broadcom will be supported in dapper
[08:15] <amonkey> peej, i'm unfamiliar with that procedure
[08:16] <r0d> cool! how? tritium
[08:16] <concept10> r0d, I have a broadcom working on my laptop, no problem
[08:16] <johnclark> concept10, care to tell me how?
[08:16] <r0d> concept10, so do i, u can't use any good tools with broadcom kismet
[08:17] <r0d> and pentesting w/ it is a joke
[08:17] <concept10> r0d, what type of card do you have?
[08:17] <concept10> johnclark, ^^
[08:17] <r0d> better question is what card don't i have concept10
[08:17] <hangfire> anyone know if ubuntu installs ATI graphic drivers?
[08:17] <tritium> !tell hangfire about ati
[08:18] <r0d> only reason i have broacom card concept10 is because of intergration reasons
[08:18] <concept10> well I need to know so I could help you
[08:18] <r0d> concept10, i dont need help bro
[08:18] <r0d> its johnclark
[08:18] <johnclark> belkin wireless g desktop card
[08:18] <hangfire> yes, will someone tell me about ati?
[08:18] <brenner> someone has
[08:19] <tritium> !ati
[08:19] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:19] <concept10> johnclark, with a broadcom chipset?   I need to know model number
[08:19] <concept10> johnclark, lspci
[08:19] <hangfire> thanks
[08:19] <peej> mount /lost+found /dev/hdb1  if you have a linux hdb lying around. This is just to stop lost and found writing over the first 32MB and messing things up further, but I don't know if it is necessary actually.
[08:19] <johnclark> unknown device 4318 rev 02
[08:20] <concept10> johnclark, what about the actual model number of the card?
[08:20] <peej> amonkey: hda is your current drive. Another physical drive which you physically insert in would be hdb or hdc or hdd etc.
[08:20] <brenner> johnclark: update-pciids
[08:21] <johnclark> crap, i'm lost
[08:21] <concept10> johnclark, you dont know the model number of the card you bought?
[08:22] <brenner> johnclark: update-pciids will give you more recent lspci entries
[08:22] <johnclark> ok, i just installed ubuntu on another pc
[08:22] <johnclark> didn't detect my wireless card
[08:23] <peej> johnclark: I think you are somewhere in Anaheim.
[08:23] <johnclark> :P
[08:23] <johnclark> gimme a sec to figure out the card model and chipset
[08:24] <kameron> how do i change my dns in firefox?
[08:24] <brenner> offtopic: did the mighty ducks take their name off the movies, or did they have it originally?
[08:25] <timfrost> kameron, you can't change it in firefox.  You need to change /etc/resolv.conf, which is a system file.  What do you actually want to do?
[08:26] <kameron> timfrost, test my friends dns for him.
[08:26] <hangfire> well from reading this how-to I think using the default ubuntu ATI driver is the safest way
[08:26] <r0d> kameron, use dig
[08:26] <tritium> hangfire: if you don't need 3d, then stick with the default
[08:26] <kameron> r0d, is that a front end to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:26] <Tomcat_> brenner: As I said, I have never worked with these settings... I only know about the vertical scroll speed, and that these options exist. :P
[08:27] <hangfire> but I do need 3D, how can a ati driver not have 3D support?
[08:27] <hangfire> I do 3D graphics
[08:27] <r0d> kameron, its a program you use to get dns entries from spefic dns servers
[08:27] <tritium> hangfire: by it not being implemented
[08:27] <r0d> or nslookup
[08:27] <timfrost> kameron, use dig @his.name.server <DNS queries> should work.
[08:27] <tritium> hangfire: if you need 3d, you'll need to follow the wiki page to install fglrx
[08:28] <r0d> alot easier to do that way instead of wrecking your resolv.conf file, unless you know what your doing
[08:28] <hangfire> ok, thanks tritium, Ill take a look
[08:28] <Nameeater> !xgl
[08:28] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:28] <n00b> hey guys
[08:28] <n00b> i  can't install a login manager from art.gnome.org
[08:28] <n00b> why is that
[08:28] <kameron> timfrost, okay.
[08:30] <brenner> n00b: dunno, how are you doing it?
[08:30] <n00b> dw i got it working brenner
[08:31] <smorenoa> hola pibes
[08:31] <cooku> hello there
[08:31] <smorenoa> what?
[08:32] <cooku> riveting convo here
[08:34] <Kyo> 127.0.0.1 is local host right?
[08:34] <kameron> timfrost, r0d, i'm still not totally clear on how do use dig. i want to set my dns to 12.23.34.45 and check what www.foo.com resolves to. how would i do this with dig?
[08:35] <rikie> harlow
[08:36] <Harp> 127.0.0.1 is indeed localhost
[08:39] <r0d> kameron, how so, the syntax timfrost gave you should work
[08:39] <kameron> hmm r0d
[08:39] <r0d> kameron, "man dig" will explain more
[08:39] <kameron> true.
[08:39] <r0d> do you just want a single entry kameron
[08:40] <kameron> uhh i suppose r0d ?
[08:41] <moodog> Morning all.
[08:41] <kameron> evening moodog
[08:42] <r0d> kameron, I not totally sure what you want to do. are you trying to use your friends dns server, and not your ISP's for dns?
[08:42] <rikie> hia
[08:42] <r0d> kameron, like trying to access websites using his dns server
[08:42] <cooku> morn moo dog
[08:43] <kameron> r0d, i think so.
[08:43] <redblade> Hi, does anyne know how I can set up a webserver?
[08:43] <r0d> kameron, I think you guys need a better game plan first and understand how dns works before you do that
[08:44] <Madpilot> !tell redblade about lamp
[08:44] <r0d> kameron, use dig to see individual entires(example www.foo.com=12.2.33.2)
[08:44] <kameron> r0d, okay, i think that's what i'm lookign for.
[08:45] <r0d> k, go nutz then kameron
[08:45] <grodius> can i get a link to some nice repostiroeis??
[08:45] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:45] <Madpilot> grodius: ^^^
[08:45] <kameron> r0d, i understand what dns is and how it works, i've just never queried a dns server other than the one i'm assigned to through dhcp.
[08:45] <grodius> thx
[08:45] <Madpilot> and with that, I need sleep - later, all
[08:48] <r0d> kameron, is your friends dns server registered, or do you have to connect to it w/ an ip address?
[08:48] <kameron> ip r0d
[08:49] <r0d> k kameron right now im looking for an easier dns tool for you. one w/ a gui
[08:49] <OmegaAlpha> anyone familar with the xf86.config file?
[08:49] <kameron> r0d, hah, yayyy, gui
[08:49] <redblade> sorry, I know you said abount lamp but just to be sure I should specify what I meant
[08:49] <r0d> kameron, did you try "dig <ip add>"?
[08:49] <kameron> r0d, no, i got it working though just now!
[08:50] <r0d> kameron, cool
[08:50] <Angel_Dex> when i killall ESD i loose system sounds why is this TT_TT
[08:50] <rakesh> hi
[08:51] <rakesh> tel hw to install ymessenger
[08:51] <redblade> I need something that wil set up a site like www.qwerty.net:1008
[08:51] <redblade> or something
[08:52] <redblade> I have a friend who set one up and I want to set one up
[08:52] <r0d> does anyone know whats going on w/ the google ubuntu?
[08:52] <Angel_Dex> when i killall ESD i loose system sounds why is this TT_TT
[08:54] <aaron_> how would i set the version of gcc i want to use to a previous version?
[08:54] <aaron_> like for example i need to compile wine with a version of gcc less than 4
[08:54] <aaron_> i have 3.4 on my system
[08:55] <aaron_> how would i use that instead of 4?
[08:55] <liquidindian> Hello!  If I use qparted to set up a vfat partition on my drive, how likely is it that the files already on the drive will be wiped?
[08:55] <timfrost> kameron, r0d may nt find a linux GUI tool.   The command 'dig +norec @12.23.34.45 www.foo.com any ' will report what (if any) entries if any) are held at nameserver 12.23.34.45, for the name www.foo.com. Note that this includes cache records if applicable
[08:56] <kameron> okay, good to know timfrost
[08:56] <nomopofomo> crap
[08:57] <nomopofomo> i need to compile wine with a version of gcc less than 4 and i have 3.4 installed on my system... how would i chagne the version of gcc to use?
[08:57] <liquidindian> !qtparted
[08:57] <ubotu> liquidindian: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:58] <paquin> does any1 has troubles in breezy with atheros wireless??
[08:58] <monzie> an off topic question: what are the job oppurtunites for Ubuntu packagers/maintaners?
[08:59] <r0d> timfrost, actually i did, but for kde. its gnetutil
[08:59] <Angel_Dex> meh TT_TT
[09:00] <r0d> dig is still the best, if you know how to use it correctly
[09:00] <paquin> does any1 has troubles in breezy with atheros wireless??
[09:00] <liquidindian> Does partitioning a drive set aside actual areas of the disk, or just that a certain amount of the disk is seperate?  Are disks written to in a random way?
[09:00] <Angel_Dex> how do i switch things to alsa such as system sounds and gaim?
[09:00] <r0d> kameron, if you don't mind install qt files to use it, that will work
[09:00] <bliss_> hi all
[09:01] <r0d> Angel_Dex, that is the default
[09:01] <malv> what laptop makers specifically cater to linux users?
[09:01] <kameron> r0d, i have kde/qt stuff installed. what's will work?
[09:01] <malv> at least more so than the rest?
[09:01] <bliss_> net some help with ssh conection can connect fron localhost to my box but not from outside here is what netstat says   localhost:ssh           localhost:32821         ESTABLISHED
[09:01] <bliss_> bliss tcp        0      0 localhost:32821         localhost:ssh           ESTABLISHED
[09:01] <timfrost> r0d, good to know.
[09:01] <kameron> r0d, gnetutil?
[09:01] <Angel_Dex> r0d but i think mine is using esd cuz when i killall esd i loose system sounds
[09:01] <r0d> gnetutil kameron
[09:01] <bliss_>  does this mean I must point port 22 to 32821
[09:02] <monzie> does Ubuntu strive to be a complete OS aka Debina and FreeBSD?
[09:02] <basic> yes
[09:02] <basic> ubuntu is a person
[09:02] <timfrost> bliss_, no.  What does
[09:02] <basic> striving for perfection
[09:02] <r0d> Angel_Dex, try alsamixer?
[09:03] <timfrost> bliss_, 'netstat -at | grep 22 ' show?
[09:03] <Angel_Dex> r0d how do i obtain this?
[09:03] <apakatt> anyone know if its possible to join multiple channels with password in xchat-gnome, it joins the first channels but stops after the first one with password?
[09:03] <dups> Hello. I am about to try and install java. I see two links. one is Linux RPM and the other is just Linux. Whats the difference between the two?
[09:04] <r0d> Angel_Dex, i know there is a gui sound program in the gui. someone her who uses the gui should know Angel_Dex but i use alsa mixer in bash to find my settings
[09:04] <timfrost> !java
[09:04] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:04] <r0d> Angel_Dex, in the command prompt type "alsamixer"
[09:04] <bliss_> timefrost I will check
[09:04] <timfrost> !javadebs
[09:05] <r0d> god i hate being stuck on a windoze box
[09:05] <timfrost> !javadebs
[09:05] <dups> thanks. Quick question #2. What's a shortcut key to open my terminal?
[09:05] <Angel_Dex> r0d ah the regular mizer is alsa i did not know Hmm im so lost
[09:06] <malv> if you ever decide to buy a laptop, stay clear of toshiba. I purchased one and it locks up due to bodily statics
[09:06] <malv> it sucks with ubuntu as well
[09:06] <eclair[busy] > dups: on gnome you could press alt-f2 then run gnome-terminal
[09:06] <dups> k
[09:06] <tritium> malv: that's not true of all Toshibas
[09:06] <nomopofomo> is it possible to figure out what version of gcc was used to compile a certain program?
[09:06] <malv> i dunno, being dissapointed with this product is an understatement
[09:07] <eclair[busy] > dups: you could also go try ctrl-alt-f2
[09:07] <bur[n] er> dups: or make one for the term... system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[09:07] <malv> and the fact they replaced my laptop with another one that has the same problem makes me really despise them
[09:07] <malv> they even have a class action lawsuit on them for it
[09:07] <dups> excellent - thanks
[09:08] <malv> it took them over a 5 months to recognize the issue that nearly everyone was having
[09:08] <malv> and that was so painfully obvious
[09:09] <malv> anyways, sorry for being off topic, but if I can prevent just one person from buying a toshiba and putting ubuntu on it, I can die a happy man
[09:10] <bliss_> timefrost does not show anything just comes back to root prompt
[09:10] <Angel_Dex> TT_TT damn you ubuntu! gimme none conflicting sounds
[09:11] <monzie> what are the ubuntu packages required to build .deps?
[09:11] <monzie> what are the ubuntu packages required to build .debs?
[09:11] <malv> checkinstall?
[09:11] <malv> debs?
[09:11] <malv> nm
[09:11] <monzie> no real ones malv
[09:12] <topyli> monzie: search google for the "debian new maintainers guide"
[09:12] <tritium> monzie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> seriusly why the hell cant i get my sounds to work with eachother?
[09:13] <tritium> Angel_Dex: calm down
[09:13] <Angel_Dex> its pissing me off tho
[09:13] <Angel_Dex> lots
[09:13] <bliss_> timefrost shall I try another command
[09:13] <Angel_Dex> i been trying since i installed ubuntu
[09:14] <malv> what player?
[09:14] <Angel_Dex> me?
[09:14] <malv> yea
[09:14] <malv> if they are all using esd, there shouldn't be a problem
[09:14] <Angel_Dex> well
[09:14] <abhayks> is ther a simple way to create deb ?
[09:14] <GlumJester> Does anybody know how to find what driver I'm using for my wireless card?
[09:14] <Angel_Dex> i switchted to alsa for my games
[09:15] <malv> lspci?
[09:15] <malv> sorry, lsmod
[09:15] <Angel_Dex> i need to killall esd to get sound with um but then i loose like all the other sounds including system sounds
[09:15] <dups> after 5 minutes of head scratching as to why I cannot go to my darn Desktop folder I notice the uppercase D ... damn my windows mentality :P
[09:16] <Jivenix> i set to uninstall evolution adn synaptic says its going to uninstall the ubuntu desktop
[09:16] <malv> yea, that's a problem
[09:16] <malv> a lot of games use oss, and I am not totally sure there is a clean solution
[09:17] <Angel_Dex> malv Zsnes is my main concern
[09:17] <malv> hmm, I have similar troubles myself
[09:17] <Angel_Dex> mhm
[09:18] <malv> you can tell esd to go into spawn mode
[09:18] <Angel_Dex> meaning?
[09:18] <malv> it spawns when you need it and releases alsa when its done
[09:18] <fek> moin
[09:18] <Angel_Dex> to get sound with Zsnes i need esd killed and to get system sounds and gaim sounds i need esd
[09:18] <malv> edit /etc/esound/esd.conf
[09:18] <malv> change auto_spawn to 1
[09:19] <bliss_> timefrost same with webmin on port 10000 can acess from local host but not outside here is what grep says tcp        0      0 *:10000                 *:*                     LISTEN
[09:19] <malv> if that doesn't work, try disabling the "sound for events" option in gnome preferences
[09:20] <raid> hey all I need help with wireless device installation
[09:20] <Angel_Dex> it is one
[09:20] <Angel_Dex> but it never spwns
[09:21] <bliss_> timefrost iwill ask in forum
[09:21] <missmarple> hi there
[09:21] <malv> so if you use something like xmms with the esd plugin, it will not work?
[09:21] <AM3X> helloooo
[09:21] <malv> odd
[09:22] <AM3X> anyone know about pctel modems?
[09:22] <missmarple> i have an Intel 82815 CGC video chipset, can i get 3D accel from it our am i lost?
[09:23] <missmarple> as in only ati or nvidia has 3 D accel?....
[09:23] <raid> on sudo ifup command i get: /etc/network/interfacs: 24: too few parameters for iface line ifup:couldn't read interfaces file " etc/network/interfaces" can someone help me?
[09:25] <Angel_Dex> malv Ho hum im so lost V.V i switched to alsa and everything works like xmms gaim system sounds but when i need to play a game i need esd killed then i loose gaim and system sounds
[09:26] <malv> hmmm, if I disable system sounds I do not have that problem
[09:26] <malv> I just cant play any music while using zsnes
[09:27] <Angel_Dex> malv same
[09:28] <OmegaAlpha> /usr/X11R6/include <-- does anyone have that directory on their system?
[09:28] <malv> yea, sorry, you can try esddsp, but it gives me weird sound corruptions
[09:28] <Angel_Dex> Angel_Dex right now i got Zsnes sound esd is dead but no system sound
[09:30] <K-Rich> can someone share their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file with me?
[09:30] <malv> apt-get install esound-clients
[09:30] <Angel_Dex> malv ?
[09:30] <malv> try running zsnes with "esddsp zsnes"
[09:31] <Angel_Dex> malv Ho hum how do i change Gaim from using ESD? to alsa or oss?
[09:31] <Angel_Dex> malv what is esddsp?
[09:31] <OmegaAlpha> can someone check to see if they have this directory, if so, does it contain a subdir. "GL"?
[09:31] <malv> just a wrapper to make it work with esd
[09:31] <OmegaAlpha> /usr/X11R6/include
[09:32] <malv> probably by recompiling it
[09:32] <malv> heh, but you are trying to mix sounds right?
[09:32] <Angel_Dex> malv ok installed how do i run Zsnes with it?
[09:32] <malv> esddsp zsnes
[09:32] <raid> on sudo ifup command i get: /etc/network/interfacs: 24: too few parameters for iface line ifup:couldn't read interfaces file " etc/network/interfaces" can someone help me?
[09:33] <ipoder> OmegaAlpha: no I don't
[09:34] <K-Rich> can someone share their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file with me?  i messed up yelp installing firefox 1.5 today
[09:34] <OmegaAlpha> ipoder, thanks for searching. Any others?
[09:34] <OmegaAlpha> other people that is?
[09:34] <Angel_Dex> nope very delayed slow sound
[09:35] <asdffasf> is there an ubunt-hr chanell outhere?
[09:36] <steve60> hi there
[09:36] <mustard5> hey steve60
[09:36] <Seveas> asdffasf, there's supposed to be one 
[09:36] <steve60> i've just installed this 3d desktop doe's anyone know how to turn it on
[09:37] <OmegaAlpha> ipoder,  can you check your /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa
[09:37] <bosco> steve60, go to your termanel and type in 3ddesk
[09:37] <Angel_Dex> malv oh well looks like i cant have my cake and eat it too no?
[09:37] <malv> hmm, i can't attest to that
[09:37] <malv> i am having both
[09:38] <bosco> if you want to make a hot key for it then you can do so as well and if you want to add it to your starterbar then if you want to you can
[09:38] <bosco> if you have one
[09:38] <Angel_Dex> malv XP ho hum
[09:38] <steve60> bosco thx
[09:38] <OmegaAlpha> steve60, what 3d desktop is it
[09:38] <malv> even xp is no perfect os =)
[09:38] <K-Rich> can someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy
[09:38] <bosco> steve60 thank you
[09:38] <steve60> one i got by apt-get
[09:38] <steve60> just says 3d desktop
[09:39] <th3man> Man!! Ubuntu an Elive (E17) Rocks......
[09:39] <Angel_Dex> malv atleast it has working sound with no conflicts TT_TT
[09:39] <bosco> steve60 it just says 3d desktop
[09:39] <bosco> ?
[09:39] <K-Rich> Anyone? Someone? Please?
[09:40] <steve60> bosco it says a three dimensional desktop switcher
[09:40] <steve60> which uses openGL
[09:40] <Angel_Dex> how do i restart esd
[09:40] <OmegaAlpha> The program is rather memory-hungry and it is CPU intensive, but it's
[09:40] <OmegaAlpha> accessible from the command line, which makes it perfect for show
[09:40] <OmegaAlpha> floors and impressing your non-UN*X-using friends.
[09:40] <OmegaAlpha> haha
[09:40] <bosco> steve60, then you have to have opengl installed or you have to enable it
[09:41] <steve60> i got all the drivers installed and there enabled
[09:41] <mustard5> steve60, apparently you move stuff around with the arrow keys?
[09:41] <steve60> it's working now
[09:41] <steve60> yeah pretty kewl stuff
[09:41] <mustard5> :)
[09:41] <bosco> steve60, then you havent actually opened it then
[09:41] <steve60> i have
[09:41] <mustard5> I've been contemplating trying it myself today :)
[09:42] <steve60> the screen just when small and 4 screens came up in like a cube and i could rotate them
[09:42] <steve60> and select a screen
[09:42] <paquin_> steve how did you make that 3d desktop work??
[09:42] <paquin_> i think i downloaded it
[09:42] <bosco> steve60,  that is what 3ddesk is
[09:42] <paquin_> on synaptic
[09:43] <steve60> at it's working
[09:43] <bosco> if you use ubuntu then it should already be installed
[09:43] <steve60> bosco, do you know any cool appz to get for ubuntu
[09:43] <mustard5> steve60, if you like 3ddesktop you might light gdesklets too
[09:43] <bosco> steve60, gnomesword2 one sec i have some more for you
[09:44] <steve60> paquin_,  i installed it off synaptic
[09:44] <robinl1> hmm..
[09:44] <robinl1> my package wants to install python 2.3
[09:44] <robinl1> but i have a newer version
[09:44] <robinl1> :(
[09:44] <paquin_> ok
[09:45] <robinl1> De volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen genstalleerd worden:
[09:45] <robinl1>   eterm kahakai libast2 python2.3
[09:45] <robinl1> robin@robin-yagj0uj5m:~/Mijn downloads/kahakai-0.6.2$ python -V
[09:45] <robinl1> Python 2.4.2
[09:45] <robinl1> :(
[09:46] <K-Rich> can someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy
[09:46] <steve60> bosco whats gnomesword2 mate
[09:47] <steve60> tell ya what is cool dopewars on here
[09:47] <bosco> steve60, gnomesword2 is a bible manager and it is a very good one i might add
[09:47] <robinl1> my package wants to install python 2.3, but i have a newer version, (trying to install kahakai from a deb source) - how to fix this?
[09:47] <bosco> steve60, it is a bible on your computer
[09:47] <nomopofomo> in terminal wine is giving me 4 "err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!" errors and also saying "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly." anyone know what that's about? how would i go about setting $DISPLAY correctly, and what does it do?
[09:47] <steve60> anything else thats good
[09:47] <abu> 
[09:48] <Rod> hi
[09:48] <raid> on sudo ifup command i get: /etc/network/interfacs: 24: too few parameters for iface line ifup:couldn't read interfaces file " etc/network/interfaces" can someone help me?
[09:48] <bosco> steve60,  i would recomend getting some sort of movie player like mplayer
[09:48] <steve60> morning rod
[09:48] <steve60> i got xine
[09:48] <steve60> and mplayer
[09:49] <steve60> and beep-media-player
[09:49] <steve60> and streamtuner
[09:49] <bosco> steve60,  then you are good to go there
[09:49] <steve60> hehe
[09:49] <hatake_kakashi> !enter
[09:49] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:49] <steve60> what about a good FPS multiplayer game
[09:49] <steve60> whats about
[09:49] <bosco> steve60,  the original UT
[09:50] <steve60> "slaps head" i threw that away 2 weeks ago
[09:50] <Rod> i got here 6 avi files, each 600mb. Tohether they are one big recorded seminar. These 6 files are pretty bad quality. How can I convert this to SVCD and get these seperate files converted to be 4.7GB in total?
[09:50] <steve60> bought it like 4 yrs ago never played so i chucked it
[09:50] <hatake_kakashi> Rod: videohelp
[09:51] <bosco> steve60,  it is one of the best games and the only one that i mess with playing but give me a sec and i will have some more for you
[09:51] <steve60> bosco thx
[09:51] <K-Rich> can someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy
[09:51] <robinl1> ..
[09:52] <robinl1> do you guys LIKE ignoring me?
[09:52] <robinl1> my package wants to install python 2.3, but i have a newer version, (trying to install kahakai from a deb source) - how to fix this?
[09:53] <bosco> steve60, anytime
[09:53] <hatake_kakashi> robinl1: is it source or binary?
[09:53] <Rod> hatake_kakashi, videohelp?
[09:53] <hatake_kakashi> Rod: google it, its a site that gives you info and stuff about your query
[09:53] <Rod> okay, thank you
[09:53] <steve60> is there a googleearth for ubuntu
[09:53] <hatake_kakashi> Rod: np
[09:54] <bosco> steve60,  yes there is
[09:54] <robinl1> hatake_kakashi: binary
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> robinl1: get the source and try compiling it from there, it may work, it may also not work
[09:55] <bosco> steve60,  my friend just got done making it work in gentoo but he used wine so if you use wine the you should be allright he tricked his labtop into thinking he was running windows xp
[09:55] <robinl1> hatake_kakashi: haha that doesnt work, need some dependencies
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> robinl1: such as?
[09:55] <steve60> bosco nice
[09:55] <bosco> steve60,  with full compadibility i might add
[09:55] <robinl1> checking for swig... no
[09:55] <robinl1> configure: error: cannot find 'swig' program
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> robinl1: you need to get those individual files, off the repos if theres any or google around
[09:56] <steve60> just installing wine now
[09:56] <monzie> how do i upgrade to dapper drake
[09:56] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check yer /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[09:56] <monzie> it's fine if the machine is not stabel
[09:56] <monzie> stable
[09:56] <bosco> steve60,  but if you want i can give you some info later on how he did it or here in the next couple of weeks you can get the linux version
[09:56] <steve60> im not doing to bad seeing as i only crossed over to ubuntu about 5 days ago
[09:57] <asdffasf> Best gnome game for online play
[09:57] <bosco> steve60,  what did you run before Fedora Core
[09:57] <monzie> help of upgrading from breezy to dapper please
[09:57] <steve60> lol
[09:57] <steve60> bosco, windows xp
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> !tell monzie about dapper
[09:57] <bosco> steve60,  wow
[09:57] <steve60> yeah i know
[09:57] <bosco> steve60,  so how do you like ubuntu
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> monzie: its on their web if you want to add it in the repos
[09:57] <steve60> bosco, Sh**hot
[09:58] <bosco> steve60,  do you like graphical backgrounds
[09:58] <steve60> bosco, runs this system like it should do
[09:58] <asdffasf> some easy game for playing online, please=
[09:58] <steve60> bosco, hell yeah
[09:58] <steve60> asdffasf, try bsflag
[09:58] <steve60> asdffasf, BZflag
[09:58] <bosco> steve60, well then your best bet is to E16
[09:58] <steve60> multiplayer tank game
[09:58] <steve60> bosco, el6 whats that
[09:58] <hatake_kakashi> Enlightment
[09:59] <bosco> steve60,  it is Enlightment
[09:59] <steve60> oh right
[09:59] <hatake_kakashi> its another WM/DE
[09:59] <steve60> not got that background
[09:59] <steve60> just got Gnome
[09:59] <candyman`> Why not E17?
[09:59] <monzie> E17 rocks
[09:59] <candyman`> ...I mean, aside from the fact that it's not done yet
[09:59] <bosco> steve60,  i would tell you to run E17 but if you dont know what you are doing then it is not stable yet t
[09:59] <candyman`> That's never stopped anyone before
[09:59] <bosco> candyman`,  that is shy
[10:00] <bosco> whty
[10:00] <liable> ubuntu has e17?
[10:00] <candyman`> not really
[10:00] <candyman`> You can make it work
[10:00] <candyman`> It's like saying Ubuntu has Xgl support
[10:00] <bosco> liable, you could run e17 in ubuntu because i am
[10:00] <steve60> bosco, im getting that good i even started giving help on this now hehe
[10:01] <abu> apt-get update
[10:01] <ScoTTie> hey
[10:01] <steve60> just have to get use to installing stuff via command rather then just point and click like in windows
[10:01] <glick> whats e17?
[10:01] <ScoTTie> after installed dapper (and previously breezy) my system locks up after a few seconds once X is launched..
[10:01] <hatake_kakashi> glick: read above
[10:01] <bosco> steve60,  if you want to try and run E17 go for it but not all of the things work yet so i would recomend getting used to E16 then Going to E17
[10:01] <ScoTTie> anyone heard of similar problems ?
[10:02] <K-Rich> how can i stop a package from downloading/installing ?
[10:02] <steve60> bosco, i'll stick with EL6 seeing as it sounds stable
[10:02] <candyman`> E17 == new version of the Enlightenment desktop manager
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> K-Rich: what program?
[10:02] <steve60> bosco, i just gotta find it first
[10:02] <bosco> steve60,  E16 is stable out of the box and very stable
[10:02] <tdo> hello
[10:02] <K-Rich> firefox... i upgraded to 1.5 now the old one want to reinstall
[10:03] <steve60> bosco, i think i gotta install this el6 though cause it does not come up in the login screen just gnome there
[10:03] <bosco> steve60,  go to get-e.org and read about it and E17 if you want to
[10:03] <tdo> if I right click on an iso and do Write to Disc... is it going to burn the image to the disc, or just as a file on the disc?
[10:03] <buddhi> what is irc chat?
[10:03] <buddhi> I am from the previous century I am sorry
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> K-Rich: its under download manager
[10:03] <buddhi> hello
[10:03] <buddhi> trying to install wine on ubuntu
[10:04] <buddhi> somehow synaptic is not able to install it
[10:04] <bosco> steve60,  or just join the #e room either way that will help you transition correctly
[10:04] <aeolist> hello everyone
[10:04] <K-Rich> hatake_kakashi: where under download manager?
[10:04] <ibh> I have a question about ubuntu
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> K-Rich: if you were downloading stuff through firefox, its download manager
[10:04] <aeolist> i have 2 partitions with data on them, the filesystem is ext3... is it possible to merge them without losing the data?
[10:04] <AM3X> ey how do i install GCC on my ubuntu?
[10:04] <fred__> yes ibh
[10:05] <K-Rich> hatake_kakashi: apt keeps trying to get it
[10:05] <ibh> When you install Ubuntu, can you keep Windows and all other applications already installed?
[10:05] <glick> AM3X, dev-tools
[10:05] <steve60> bosco, i was under the impression that you could only run gnome and the kubuntu could run kde + what ever
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> !tell AM3X about build-essential
[10:05] <glick> heh yeah thats it
[10:05] <glick> build-essentials
[10:05] <fred__> AM3X, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[10:05] <ibh> fred__?
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> K-Rich: trying to get packages? Ctrl+C should stop it
[10:05] <AM3X> oh ic thanks to you all
[10:06] <AM3X> !gcc
[10:06] <ubotu> methinks gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:06] <K-Rich> i want to permanently stop it
[10:06] <AM3X> ^_^
[10:06] <candyman`> gcc == gnu compiler collection
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> K-Rich: killall apt-get
[10:06] <fred__> ibh, ask ur question
[10:06] <candyman`> or Green Hills compiler collection
[10:06] <ibh> When you install Ubuntu, can you keep Windows and all other applications already installed?
[10:06] <K-Rich> lol nm... i still want to upgrade other packages
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> ibh: yes
[10:06] <fred__> ibh, yes
[10:07] <ibh> cool. Roughly, how much space does ubuntu take up?
[10:07] <steve60> bosco, how'd i install this el6 then??
[10:07] <kerrian> Greetinge everyone
[10:07] <bosco> steve60,  if you are running ubuntu and E16 then you are still running ubunutu just with a different manager it is like running windows but a dirrerent verson like xp ccmpared to home edition they are dffernt
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> ibh: ~4GB, more info is on the website, go check it out
[10:07] <ibh> ok, cool, thanks
[10:08] <kerrian> I'm fairly new to the Linux world, Ubuntu is my first foray into it
[10:08] <mustard5> welcome kerrian :)
[10:08] <kerrian> thanks :)
[10:09] <kerrian> so far it's been a relatively painless process
[10:09] <bosco> steve60,  allrigt go to get-e.org and read up on it and it will tell you how to nstall e16 and e17 if you want to
[10:09] <kerrian> very different from the OS I use on my gaming computer
[10:09] <mustard5> kerrian, thats good to hear..you must have mostly hardware that likes linux :)
[10:09] <glick> time for bed
[10:09] <glick> g'nite
[10:09] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:09] <steve60> bosco,  thx
[10:10] <kerrian> no idea, this is an old Compaq peice of crap I bought for messing around witgh
[10:10] <kerrian> not ure if it loaded proper video drivers or not, heh
[10:10] <fred__> guys
[10:10] <kerrian> thats one of my main concerns
[10:10] <fred__> im having a very strange problem with dpkg
[10:11] <mustard5> kerrian, do you know what type of graphics system you have onboard?
[10:11] <bosco> steve60,  you are welcome if you need any other help just let me no i started running every the same way you did ubuntu then e16 and now e17 then gentoo is my next progect
[10:11] <mustard5> kerrian, nvidia or ati?
[10:11] <fred__> im not able to install/remove/update any packages
[10:11] <kerrian> ita not onboard
[10:11] <mustard5> fred__, have you just installed?
[10:11] <kerrian> it's a Geforce MX440 64mb AGP card
[10:11] <fred__> mustard5, nope
[10:11] <steve60> bosco, that el has some nice rich eyecandy on there
[10:11] <fred__> the system is running fine
[10:12] <kerrian> good gods
[10:12] <bosco> steve60,  yes it does
[10:12] <mustard5> kerrian, I'll get ubotu to tell you about nvidia drivers...
[10:12] <fred__> this is what synaptic gives out: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libtasn1-2-dev_0.2.10-4ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: failed in buffer_read(fd)
[10:12] <mustard5> !tell kerrian about nvidia
[10:12] <kerrian> this multiple tabbed OS is driving me mad
[10:12] <kerrian> I like it, but its hard to get used to, lol
[10:12] <mustard5> :)
[10:12] <redblade> hi, does nayone know of a good website for a fairly new Linux user trying to set up an apache web server?
[10:13] <steve60> bosco, the site only goes on about el7 i cant find where to download el6
[10:13] <hatake_kakashi> redblade: Apache HOWTO  .. google for it
[10:13] <redblade> k
[10:13] <mustard5> redblade, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:13] <fred__> redblade, go on osnews.com and search in the archives about 'bsd web server' and ull get a good tutorial with the steps
[10:13] <kerrian> good gods
[10:13] <bosco> steve60,  there is e16 on there as well but give me one sec and i will tell you let me think how i did it
[10:14] <kerrian> using this I feel like I did 11 years ago when I got my first computer
[10:14] <kerrian> like I don't have a sweet clue how to run it, lol
[10:14] <kerrian> but I'll learn
[10:14] <steve60> bosco,  can you get it via apt-get
[10:14] <mustard5> kerrian, thats a common feeling when people first start using linux :)
[10:14] <bosco> yes you can i just have to think of the right command
[10:14] <steve60> k#
[10:15] <kerrian> I said relatively new
[10:15] <kerrian> I ued to use Libranet 2.7 on my old labtob
[10:15] <kerrian> about 2 years ago mind, so I've forgotten a lot of stuff
[10:15] <mustard5> kerrian, did you get the PM from ubotu on setting up nvidia?
[10:15] <fred__> and here is dpkg's output: (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.8- winehq-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:15] <fred__> failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `libc6-i686': Invalid argumen t
[10:15] <fred__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:15] <fred__> /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.8-winehq-1_i386.deb
[10:15] <kerrian> yeah
[10:16] <fred__> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[10:16] <kerrian> working on it now
[10:16] <fred__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:16] <fred__> this is bugging me and cant find anything about it on google
[10:16] <steve60> whats that
[10:16] <fred__> except a problem with someone had his date returned back to 1937 or something
[10:16] <fred__> for no known reason
[10:17] <fred__> he set the date back to 2005 and everything went fine..
[10:17] <fred__> but my date is correct
[10:17] <fred__> tried resetting it but still nothing
[10:18] <krzkrzkrz> i have the install cd. do i need to be connected to the internet?
[10:18] <steve60> bosco, dont worry about it
[10:18] <bosco> steve60,  if you go to this website is is self explanitory i cant think of the apt-get command so just go here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2
[10:18] <mustard5> krzkrzkrz, ideally it would help for you internet connection to be detected and configured..but not necessary
[10:18] <steve60> bosco, i found it in the synaptic manager
[10:19] <fred__> krzkrzkrz, not really, u just need the internet to update and install newer software
[10:19] <steve60> bosco, im just installing it now
[10:19] <ideafix> how do i install WOW in wine ?
[10:19] <bosco> steve60,  allright there are themes there if you need them as well
[10:19] <steve60> yeah im installing them aswell
[10:19] <foxpaul> is it possible to see if processes are using a port?
[10:19] <foxpaul> listening on a port, even
[10:20] <steve60> basically if it said enlightenment next to it i marked it for install
[10:20] <bosco> yah how do you install wow in wine i want to know as well
[10:20] <steve60> whats wow??
[10:20] <AM3X> !kernel source
[10:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AM3X
[10:20] <AM3X> waaaaaaaah
[10:20] <g-thunder> baby
[10:21] <krzkrzkrz> ok ill connect the laptop to the internet once the distro is installed
[10:21] <Chrisx1> hey everytime i run a php script with mysql i get a mysql error i try to remove php + mysql i cant because i cant remove phpmyadmin any ideas??
[10:21] <AM3X> i was trying to install driver for my modem it says no kernel source
[10:21] <mustard5> I see this thread on WOW and wine in the forums  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615&highlight=wow+wine
[10:21] <AM3X> i was trying to install driver for my modem it says no kernel source found
[10:21] <ideafix> great
[10:21] <ideafix> thx
[10:21] <AM3X> !kernel
[10:22] <AM3X> how do i install kernel source?
[10:22] <Chrisx1> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):
[10:22] <Chrisx1>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[10:22] <Chrisx1> any ideas?
[10:22] <mustard5> krzkrzkrz, k..as I said..it might auto detect your connection and set it all up for you if you have it connected at install though...its up to you :)
[10:22] <steve60> bosco, im gonna go mooch around and see what i can get for this seeya laterz an thx again
[10:22] <mustard5> AM3X, you would install it through synaptic
[10:23] <matyas_za> Hi
[10:23] <bosco> steve60,  that is the only way to is to mooch and thank you
[10:23] <krzkrzkrz> mustard5 would i be able to configure after installation though?
[10:23] <AM3X> mustard5 do you have some readme on that?
[10:23] <steve60> bosco, np seeya
[10:23] <krzkrzkrz> mustard5 would it be much more difficult?
[10:23] <matyas_za> I wanna change my update link what is the archive link again?
[10:23] <ideafix> e already installed <span class="highlight">wine</span> from the repositories, you will want to do a "complete removal" of it before continuing.<br>
[10:23] <ideafix> nstalled <span class="highlight">wine</span> from the repositories, you will want to do a "complete removal" of it before continuing.<br>
[10:23] <ideafix> sorry
[10:23] <mustard5> krzkrzkrz, sure..but if you've never used linux before..it might mean a bit of learning first :)
[10:24] <ideafix> i have to unistall wine 1st ?
[10:24] <mustard5> krzkrzkrz, if you have another system to get online with I suppose its not a big issue
[10:24] <OmegaAlpha> steve60,  when you get enlightenment running can you tell me if your menus work when you right click
[10:24] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:24] <AM3X> mustard5 do you have some readme on that?
[10:24] <AM3X> documentation?
[10:25] <munti78> i'm looking for an ftp client, anyone now of a good one?
[10:25] <mustard5> AM3X, I would search in synaptic for a package called linux-source and is for your current kernel
[10:25] <g-thunder> wie installiere ich von einer cd aus den treiber?
[10:25] <kryptoz> when i try to mount a nfs share on another computer it gives me error "RPC Error: 15 ( Program not registered )"
[10:25] <mustard5> AM3X, your can find your current kernel version with the uname -r command
[10:25] <munti78> anyone?
[10:25] <AM3X> ic thanks mustard5
[10:26] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:26] <mustard5> AM3X, for example I have this package in synaptic.... linux-source-2.6.12
[10:26] <ideafix> mustard5 isntalling wine for use with wow will make other windows programs not to work as expected ?
[10:26] <mustard5> AM3X, you might have a different kernel though...so check your kernel version first
[10:26] <mustard5> ideafix, I have no idea
[10:27] <AM3X> ok thanks again mustard5
[10:27] <mustard5> ideafix, I've never tried it myself..just found that thread :)
[10:27] <ideafix> humm
[10:28] <mustard5> !de
[10:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:28] <ideafix> theres an arabe hat there sould i be warry ?
[10:28] <mustard5> ideafix, that would be a turkish fez :)
[10:28] <AM3X> i already know my kernel ver is 2.5.12
[10:28] <ideafix> is isntalling wine to use with wow some kind of terrorrist hack ?
[10:28] <AM3X> i mean i already know my kernel ver is 2.6.12
[10:29] <kerrian> how do |I find out if I'm running a 386 kerne; or 686 kernel?
[10:29] <mustard5> AM3X, can then you should install that package above then...
[10:29] <OmegaAlpha> whats this wow you are talking about
[10:29] <AM3X> mustard5 thanks
[10:29] <ideafix> world of warcraft
[10:29] <mustard5> kerrian, type uname -r in terminal
[10:29] <ideafix> what else !?
[10:30] <OmegaAlpha> oh yeah remember seeing that on wines site
[10:30] <mikelo> hey guys i gotta a problem with my video card
[10:30] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:31] <mikelo> all games are running slower
[10:31] <OmegaAlpha> mikelo, so do i
[10:31] <mikelo> damn
[10:31] <kerrian> be interesting to see what linux can really do
[10:31] <ideafix> why ?
[10:31] <kerrian> never managed to get my video cards working before
[10:31] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, your spelling nvidia wrong btw...I don't have a nvidia folder either
[10:32] <OmegaAlpha> mustard5, haha didnt see that
[10:32] <OmegaAlpha>  can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nvidia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:32] <OmegaAlpha> there we go
[10:32] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, in fact /user/x11R6/lib/ returns no such file or directory
[10:32] <Mr_Milenko> back on broadband oh yeah
[10:32] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[10:33] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, that was /usr/ btw..hehe..my turn for a typo :)
[10:33] <ideafix> try uname -i
[10:33] <ideafix> kerrian:  try uname -i
[10:33] <kerrian> brb
[10:34] <OmegaAlpha> mustard5,  i have an nvidia file there.. hmmm i wonder if thats why i keep getting the GLX extension error
[10:34] <mustard5> ideafix, there is no -i option for uname that I can see
[10:34] <OmegaAlpha> if i solve this problem.. ill be a hero in the linux community
[10:34] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, :)
[10:34] <ideafix> yes there is
[10:34] <Chrisx1> anyone around like to help me?
[10:34] <ideafix> uname -i
[10:34] <ideafix> i386
[10:35] <OmegaAlpha> maybe they'll name a driver after me ;)~
[10:35] <mikelo> no -i option found
[10:35] <mustard5> mustard@slave:~$ uname -i
[10:35] <mustard5> Try `uname --help' for more information.
[10:35] <ideafix> mustard5: there must be something broken with your distro
[10:35] <Chrisx1> Errors were encountered while processing:  phpmyadmin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:35] <Mr_Milenko> mustard!
[10:35] <Mr_Milenko> Broadband :D
[10:35] <mustard5> hey Mr_Milenko
[10:35] <bosco> LOL
[10:36] <bosco> shine
[10:36] <ideafix> mustard5:  uname --version
[10:36] <ideafix> whats does it say ?
[10:36] <OmegaAlpha>  can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nvidia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:36] <mustard5> ideafix, uname -r returns the kernel version
[10:37] <Kerrian> um, hate to be a bother, but I don't think it worked
[10:37] <Chrisx1> Errors were encountered while processing:  phpmyadmin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:37] <Chrisx1> Can Any1 Help With that ^^
[10:37] <Kerrian> I followed the directionx exactly
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> thats nice Chrisx1
[10:37] <mustard5> ideafix, uname (coreutils) 5.2.1
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> repeat it again
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> i dont think we saw it the last two times you pasted it
[10:37] <Chrisx1> oh lolz
[10:37] <ideafix> uname --version
[10:37] <ideafix> uname (GNU coreutils) 5.3.0
[10:37] <ideafix> Written by David MacKenzie.
[10:37] <mustard5> Kerrian, did you sudo nvidia-config enable?
[10:37] <Chrisx1> can somebody help plz?
[10:37] <OmegaAlpha> mustard5, do you ever get an error when running apps something like lib: GLX extension missing for display.
[10:37] <Kerrian> and after doing the ctrl alt backspace, it brought me to a basic text interface
[10:37] <ideafix> mabey you need to upgrade coreutils
[10:38] <Kerrian> ah ha
[10:38] <dooglus> when I try to update, I see this: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.3.0svn+r19871-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips', which is also in package xfce4-toys".  I don't need xfce4 at all any more - can I somehow remove the conflicting packages?
[10:38] <Kerrian> I did the sudo nvidia-glx-confix
[10:38] <ideafix> i ear there was some bug with does
[10:38] <Kerrian> no wonder it didn;t work
[10:38] <ideafix> those
[10:38] <Kerrian> question: if I ran the proper command from this text interface its given me, would it still work?
[10:39] <dooglus> kameron: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from there
[10:39] <Tamoio_br> helloa ll
[10:39] <Tamoio_br> -*hello all
[10:39] <dooglus> Kerrian: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from there
[10:39] <mustard5> Kerrian, try what dooglus said above
[10:39] <Kerrian> k
[10:39] <fred__> anyone?
[10:39] <Kerrian> this flavour of linux have autocomplete?
[10:39] <mustard5> Kerrian, yep
[10:40] <OmegaAlpha> anyone else in here get the GLX extension error
[10:40] <Kerrian> excellent
[10:40] <Kerrian> one of my all time favourite utilities
[10:40] <dooglus> Kerrian: Linux is a kernel, so no.  Some of the applications it runs have autocomplete.
[10:40] <Kerrian> next to apt-Get on Deb
[10:40] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: using ATI ?
[10:41] <OmegaAlpha> p0windah, yes i am
[10:41] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, I don't recall any errors like that
[10:41] <Kerrian> ok, so now that I'm back in, run the proper command?
[10:41] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, nothing that is a showstopper anyway
[10:41] <Kerrian> or go back through the entire process?
[10:41] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: good luck :)
[10:41] <dooglus> Kerrian: if you want to turn on full completion in the shell, edit .bashrc and uncomment the lines about bash_completion
[10:41] <OmegaAlpha> p0windah, haha thanks im going to need it!
[10:41] <matyas_za> what is the link where i can find all the ubuntu packages?
[10:41] <mustard5> Kerrian, try doing it again I would say
[10:42] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: unfortunately ATI has a notoriously bad reputation when it comes to Linux
[10:42] <dooglus> matyas_za: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:42] <matyas_za> thank you
[10:42] <mustard5> Kerrian, you might need the legacy drivers ..I'm not sure..its a pretty old card isnt it?
[10:42] <ideafix> even in windows
[10:42] <OmegaAlpha> am i able to buy a new one for a laptop for cheap?
[10:42] <ideafix> i couldnt runn quake3 with ATI
[10:42] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: a new video card ?
[10:43] <matyas_za> dooglus: isnt there one that starts with archive?
[10:43] <Kerrian> hooray
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> p0windah, yes. with 3d graffix accelerator
[10:43] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: not really, no
[10:43] <Kerrian> damn bash errors
[10:43] <dooglus> matyas_za: yes.  the packages site will link to it once you've searched for your package
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> crapola
[10:44] <a> help download boot ubuntu to floppy
[10:44] <Kerrian> god I'm glad they got rid ot root passwords
[10:44] <Kerrian> those got annoying after entering them 30-40 times a day
[10:44] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: and even if you could, there are 2 or 3 different ATI drivers, with each one implementing a different and limited range of features
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> how much could i see a used 3 yr old laptop for
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> haha
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> sell*
[10:44] <matyas_za> thanks
[10:44] <PenYaiR> help download floppydisk for ubuntu
[10:44] <mustard5> Kerrian, well its still go sudo password, but it usually remembers your password being entered for a time period
[10:45] <morphix> :/
[10:45] <morphix> i have found out what my problem is with my hdds.
[10:45] <dooglus> when I try to update, I see this: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.3.0svn+r19871-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips', which is also in package xfce4-toys".  I don't need xfce4 at all any more - can I somehow remove the conflicting packages?
[10:45] <PenYaiR> i comp no support cdrom
[10:45] <morphix> its cause i have Promise Technology IDE/SATA RAID controller built it
[10:45] <Vartotojas> damn. wtf "hdd-mod-intel can't not found" ?\
[10:45] <Kerrian> I just remembered something
[10:45] <morphix> and ubuntu doesnt support it fully
[10:46] <p0windah> dooglus: dpkg -P xfce4
[10:46] <PenYaiR> i need url for boot to floppy
[10:46] <dooglus> p0windah: thanks
[10:46] <Kerrian> after I put in that code dooglus gave me, for about half a second there was an Nvidia splashscreen
[10:46] <morphix> does anyone know how to compile the kernel modules for Promise Technology Controllers?
[10:46] <mustard5> Kerrian, thats good then :)
[10:46] <mustard5> Kerrian, its working
[10:46] <Kerrian> how do I go check to make sure they loaded?
[10:47] <morphix> i have been trying to do the usual thing with SuSE as i do with Ubuntu.. to install base then install fluxbox/openbox
[10:47] <mustard5> Kerrian, I would install nvidia-settings
[10:47] <morphix> its so screwed in SuSE lol
[10:47] <mustard5> Kerrian, that should allow you to play with brightness/contrast/gamma and would confirm
[10:47] <Tamoio_br> someone have ubuntu in one k6II 500mhz or PIII 500mhz???
[10:47] <Kerrian> k
[10:48] <mustard5> Kerrian, the splash screen is pretty good confirmation though
[10:48] <Kerrian> I already installed it
[10:48] <Kerrian> during thet howto
[10:48] <dooglus> p0windah: that has fixed it, thanks.
[10:48] <mustard5> Kerrian, k...type nvidia-settings in terminal then to run it
[10:49] <Kerrian> looks like it worked
[10:49] <mustard5> Kerrian, well done :)  not too many hiccups with that one then
[10:49] <Kerrian> I'm starting to see why people kept telling me to try Ubuntu
[10:49] <Kerrian> you know, back when I was using Libranet, it took me a full 3 months to install my video drivers
[10:50] <mustard5> Kerrian, I can only imagine... :)
[10:50] <p0windah> yah, linux + video cards = huge head aches
[10:50] <mustard5> Kerrian, I've only been on linux since June last year...Ubuntu is my first distro
[10:50] <PenYaiR> i need url for download bootdisk to floppy
[10:50] <Kerrian> especially nvidia cards
[10:50] <Chrisx1> how do i read my log files?
[10:50] <PenYaiR> help me
[10:50] <p0windah> Chrisx1: tail -f /var/log/messages
[10:50] <mustard5> PenYaiR, the 'smartboot' how to?
[10:50] <Kerrian> I don't spose I should hold out that my winsows based bgames work on ubuntu?
[10:50] <Chrisx1> tah
[10:50] <Kerrian> bgames = games
[10:50] <p0windah> Kerrian: dont
[10:50] <Kerrian> been a really long night
[10:51] <p0windah> Kerrian: windows games are written for windows
[10:51] <Kerrian> I know
[10:51] <Kerrian> but didn't know if there was an emulation tool built into ubuntu
[10:51] <pepsi> where can i find info about the server installation? just the bare minimum i guess? but something explainging what the bare minimum ubuntu install actually _is_
[10:51] <mustard5> p0windah, you mean the 'smartboot' how to for getting a CD to boot from floppy?
 PenYaiR, the 'smartboot' how to? <-- please paste url ?
[10:51] <mustard5> !smartboot
[10:51] <ubotu> well, smartboot is If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:52] <NET||abuse> Hi all, i'm seriously interested in playing with Xgl and either compiz or something along those lines... I am that crazy/stupid to do it on my laptop :)
[10:52] <Kerrian> gah, so tempted to play blackjack
[10:52] <p0windah> Kerrian: wine works to a degree, but sound + video support in linux is generally flakey, and thats not something that is going to get fixed anytime soon either
[10:52] <NET||abuse> where can i get the step by step to add it to my install? or is it easily installed with just dapper?
[10:52] <mustard5> Kerrian, a lot of stuff is covered in the Ubuntu Starter Guide in your help menu...under 'System'
[10:52] <p0windah> NET||abuse: go figure it out, then you can write the howto
[10:53] <Kerrian> its really a pity more game companiers don't make their games linus compatible
[10:53] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, try looking on the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:53] <mustard5> Kerrian, I've still got win98se installed for windows games
[10:53] <PenYaiR> !ping me
[10:53] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PenYaiR
[10:53] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, someone might have figured it, i dont know.
[10:53] <p0windah> Kerrian: a few companies have tried
[10:54] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu p0windah: cheers,
[10:54] <mustard5> PenYaiR, sorry ..it was an autocomplete error :)
[10:54] <p0windah> Kerrian: and all gone under
[10:54] <Kerrian> is it true that unreal tournament is linux compliant?
[10:54] <mustard5> PenYaiR, doh..I just realised I had the right nick in the first place
[10:55] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu p0windah: any idea if people have managed to get all features working alright? and my main concern is supporting my graphics card... i'm actually not too sure if fglrx will support it.. ATI mobility radeon 7500
[10:55] <PenYaiR> tx friend
[10:55] <PenYaiR> tx all
[10:55] <mustard5> PenYaiR, did you get the url
[10:55] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, what graphics card do you have?
[10:55] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, oh, right
[10:55] <redblade> hi i'm trying to set up a lamp server
[10:55] <p0windah> NET||abuse: not sure, but why dont you try to get 3ddesktop working first - then give xgl and compviz a whack
[10:55] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu: ;) any clue if support is there for that card?
[10:56] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, there would be, however i'm not sure how. i do believe you might need kernel patches, but again i'm not sure. the forum will help you alot with that, as it's an ongoing issue with ubuntu afaik
[10:56] <steve60> bosco, you there
[10:56] <redblade> but for some reason apache is coming up with errors
[10:56] <suspended> I try and apt-get install mplayer-586 but I get this error
[10:56] <suspended> mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable
[10:56] <NET||abuse> p0windah: ok, i'm in a bit of a "ooh look at that" when i saw the demo video and now i would like to get my hands on it, so i didn't realise there was a 3d desktop coponent too... :S
[10:56] <suspended> i have libdirectfb-0.9-22
[10:56] <suspended> but not 20
[10:56] <Chrisx1> Can anybody help me FOrce Removing PHPmyadmin ?
[10:56] <alumno> alumno
[10:57] <Hobbsee> Chrisx1: sudo aptitude purge packagename?
[10:57] <p0windah> NET||abuse: its not related to 3ddesktop, but if you cant get 3d working and 3ddesktop functional(which there *are* heaps of tutorials), you have no hope in hell of getting xgl and compviz working
[10:58] <NET||abuse> ok, that's good to know, at least now i have a starting point to dig up on!
[10:58] <Chrisx1> Hobbsee : /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[10:58] <Chrisx1> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--purge):
[10:58] <NET||abuse> p0windah: i'm newish to geting components like that working; )
[10:58] <steve60> anyone know how to setup icons in el6
[10:58] <p0windah> NET||abuse: yeah, try and get 3ddesktop working, if thats cool on your machine, then try the tricky stuff :)
[10:58] <NET||abuse> p0windah: but i'm stupid enough to keep trying and trying till it works
[10:58] <Hobbsee> er, pass
[10:59] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, nothing wrong with stubborness
[10:59] <p0windah> NET||abuse: well if you have an ATI card, the signal/noise is quite bad
[10:59] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu p0windah: actually, if i can't get it workin on my laptop,, maybe i should try on my home desktop
[10:59] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, yup
[10:59] <NET||abuse> my home pc is a amd 64 x2 3800+
[11:00] <NET||abuse> with gainward nforce4
[11:00] <p0windah> NET||abuse: theres probably atleast 20 different ways in the ubuntuforums you can "attempt" to get ATI working, none of which is comprehensive
[11:00] <NET||abuse> so what about gainward support, how would that fair?
[11:00] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, p0windah and none of which work for every card ;)
[11:01] <MuLLeR> woah 606 users .. :)
[11:01] <MuLLeR> hey yall
[11:01] <nlindblad> morning MuLLeR
[11:01] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, p0windah on my dell optiplex g1 that has an ati card, it suffices for me to simply edit the config to make it use a lesser colour depth
[11:02] <p0windah> I had to write the entire xorg.cong so I could get my dual head setup working, with each LCD using a different resolution
[11:02] <Chrisx1> whats wrong with this db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver
[11:02] <NET||abuse> ok, yeh, my graphics card at home is gainward geforce 7800GT
[11:02] <robinl1> where can i get 3d applications like tdfsb and metisse and stuff? i mean where do i get a list of em?
[11:02] <NET||abuse> so would that be supported do you reakon?
[11:02] <p0windah> turning on *some* features will crash my box, and theres nothing in any docs that will help you understand what may/may not crash...
[11:03] <MuLLeR> hm .. someone can give me a hint .. how to boot WinXP from an SATA drive and Ubuntu from PATA? i used both lilo and grub ... lilo boots Ubuntu fine ... but XP bootstrap hangs .. oh .. and Ubuntu is on Ch1 .. Ch2...
[11:03] <MuLLeR> (XP Ch2)
[11:04] <eobanb> Muller, that's pretty much a windows problem, not an ubuntu problem
[11:04] <MuLLeR> yeah .. i know .. :)
[11:04] <eobanb> i'm guessing you need the right SATA driver installed for windows.  windows sata support sucks
[11:04] <Chrisx1> whats wrong with this db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver
[11:04] <noppo> people, how to play Xvid movies?
[11:05] <K-Rich> can someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy
[11:05] <NET||abuse> most players will get the codecs
[11:05] <NET||abuse> noppo: you using xine?
[11:05] <MuLLeR> eobanb: no.. XP boot-uped  fine before lilo .. :)
[11:05] <noppo> NET||abuse, totem
[11:05] <NET||abuse> I found xine more reliable in supporting encoding types
[11:06] <ideafix> arent they the same ?
[11:06] <noppo> NET||abuse, okay, installing xine
[11:06] <eobanb> MuLLeR, why exactly are you using lilo
[11:06] <MuLLeR> eobanb: because when i used grub .. it bootup-ed only XP
[11:07] <Chrisx1> cany any1 help please!!!
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: and what happened to the linux part?
[11:08] <pepsi> hi there
[11:08] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: it even didn't show the bootmenu...
[11:08] <KenSentMe> is there a problem with the update servers?
[11:08] <MuLLeR> straight to XP boot
[11:08] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: that's not even grub
[11:08] <eobanb> Muller, you need to correctly configure grub.
[11:08] <steve60> does anyone know how to make the screen res small ing el6
[11:09] <K-Rich> can someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy please ???
[11:09] <eobanb> steve60, can you re-phrase that
[11:09] <steve60> does anyone know how to make the screen res small in enlightenment 6
[11:09] <eobanb> 'small'?
[11:09] <steve60> sorry i can hardly read the text
[11:09] <pepsi> im growing tired of gnome, and i want to try something else, although im not interested in KDE, as it seems just as big and intrusive as gnome, if not more.. im not sure which aspect or component in particular i dont like.. id like to build a desktop environment myself instead of getting everything and the kitchen sink thrown at me at once
[11:10] <elkbuntu> pepsi, try xfce
[11:10] <elkbuntu> pepsi, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:10] <pepsi> elkbuntu, but if i install the xubuntu package, will that be everything and the kitchen sink for xfce?
[11:10] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: i installed it both.. on hdc MBR and sda MBR .. :) ... and again straight to XP boot ...
[11:10] <elkbuntu> pepsi, no, you'll get the choice at the login screen
[11:10] <eobanb> pepsi, xfce is rather stripped down to begin with.
[11:10] <pepsi> ok
[11:10] <eobanb> steve60, that's an xorg issue, not an enlightenment one
[11:11] <elkbuntu> pepsi, just click the session icon in the bottom left corner and tell it what to use
[11:11] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: which device does your pc first boot hard disk up? the SATA or the PATA?
[11:11] <pepsi> im going to reinstall so that i dont have gnome littering itself all over.. do i do the bare minimum install? the server install? then install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:11] <eobanb> pepsi, there's no need to re-install the entire system.
[11:11] <MuLLeR> CDROM .. -> HDD -> CDROM ... (HardDisk -> PATA -> SATA)
[11:12] <elkbuntu> pepsi, but install xubuntu-desktop first
[11:12] <pepsi> eobanb, this is a broken dapper installation :) i really want to reinstall
[11:12] <eobanb> pepsi, in that case you would probably want the server install
[11:12] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: then you should have GRUB installed on PATA not both
[11:12] <elkbuntu> pepsi, then just delete unwanted gnomish bits as you find them
[11:13] <elkbuntu> eobanb, yah, it would probably suit him
[11:13] <pepsi> blah.. id rather it be clean to begin with so i dont have to look in ever nook and cranny to get rid of gnome
[11:13] <pepsi> ok
[11:13] <Alexi5> ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:13] <Alexi5> which one should i choose
[11:13] <eobanb> depends on your preference...
[11:13] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: i know ... but i can change HD bootup sequence ..
[11:13] <pepsi> ya, you just gotta try them
[11:14] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: and it was installed on PATA
[11:14] <eobanb> i personally like gnome over kde, but honestly, there are big advantages and disadvantages to each.
[11:14] <elkbuntu> pepsi, server install shouldnt take long... in fact i've been planning a smilar path as you for my web server
[11:14] <Alexi5> i have limited bandwidth and ned a linux os to do some work
[11:14] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: and btw, if it went straight to winxp without showing press Esc for menu, etc then you don't have GRUB installed properly
[11:15] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, does it have to be tonight, or can you wait a month for free cds to come from shipit?
[11:15] <Alexi5> i like kde
[11:15] <eobanb> Alexi5, do you appreciate a more clean and simple look and feel, or a more complex and sophisticated UI?
[11:15] <Alexi5> but i would like to know if it is stable to work with
[11:15] <eobanb> they're both stable.
[11:15] <morphix> kde & gnome are equaly as boggy and crap
[11:15] <pepsi> elkbuntu, ya i know, im just wondering what the <foo>-desktop packages really install though.. i dont want everything and the kitchen sink again, but ill install xubuntu-desktop and see how that is before i try to remove other stuff
[11:16] <Alexi5> which one has a more clean and simple
[11:16] <eobanb> probably gnome.
[11:16] <Alexi5> ok
[11:16] <elkbuntu> pepsi well, you install xfce first, then if you find it not enough, do xubuntu-desktop and it'll fill in the missing pieces
[11:16] <pepsi> kde lets you configure too much,a nd i could never seem to find a "boring" default theme
[11:16] <cappiz> someone here using pftp?
[11:16] <eobanb> elkbuntu, i wouldn't do that.
[11:17] <elkbuntu> eobanb, why not?
[11:17] <pepsi> im sure if i configured for a hwile id be able to get kde to look nice, but it seems to default to more bright-and-shiny stuff
[11:17] <Alexi5> so kde has some great themes?
[11:17] <elkbuntu> pepsi, kde is made to be eye-candy, that's why
[11:18] <eobanb> xubuntu-desktop is the preferred package for installing xfce.  otherwise it's a bit hard to set up.
[11:18] <eobanb> Alexi5, both have nice themes.
[11:18] <Arafangion> Could anyone confirm that they can't resume from standby while not running X?
[11:18] <pepsi> ya im just gunna install xubuntu-desktop so i can see how it feels before delving deep to set it up.. i might though
[11:18] <Alexi5> xubuntu
[11:18] <pepsi> thanks a lot guys
[11:18] <pepsi> :)
[11:18] <Arafangion> (Rather, it resumes, but you can't see the screen)
[11:19] <Alexi5> it seems ubuntu is taking over the linux distro scene
[11:19] <elkbuntu> pepsi, have you more than one computer on the net?
[11:19] <pepsi> elkbuntu, ya
[11:19] <Arafangion> Alexi5, As a long time debian dude, I would have to agree.
[11:19] <Alexi5> ok
[11:19] <matyas_za> a
[11:19] <Alexi5> rpms suck
[11:19] <eobanb> no argument there..
[11:19] <elkbuntu> pepsi, we'll be here if you need to ask, then :)
[11:20] <Alexi5> right now i am on fedora
[11:20] <pepsi> elkbuntu, im downloading the breezy iso still though.. i cant find the one i burnt :(
[11:20] <morphix> Alexi5: much agree'd
[11:20] <ablomen> Alexi5, amen brother
[11:20] <Alexi5> and i can't install certain applications or some ther programs might not work
[11:20] <morphix> i find everything else in ubuntu to be perfect
[11:20] <morphix> except 1 thing
[11:20] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, which fc?
[11:20] <Alexi5> 4
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> fedora core
[11:20] <Alexi5> yeah
[11:20] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, fc is better
[11:20] <elkbuntu> err
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> nm
[11:20] <mikelo> hi i'm trying yo install the server version to a P1 machine but i get a problem mounting the cdrom
[11:20] <elkbuntu> fc3
[11:21] <Arafangion> Alexi5, You'll find that it's not just that the rpm's "suck", it's more the 'culture' of the distro.
[11:21] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, they stuffed up fc4
[11:21] <mikelo> it boots fine
[11:21] <Alexi5> ok
[11:21] <Alexi5> yum is ok
[11:21] <eobanb> Arafangion, true enough.
[11:21] <ablomen> the whole rpms dependecy thing sucks, if you want rpms you should use suse
[11:21] <Alexi5> but i doesn't download some of the dependencies
[11:21] <morphix> suse = i dont like
[11:21] <morphix> yast or YOU sux
[11:22] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, yes, but i've heard this from numerous people... more people than i have digits to count on
[11:22] <eobanb> and urpmi.
[11:22] <Alexi5> before we go into the distro war
[11:22] <hatake_kakashi> talking rpm like that is like using dpkg, ever had to deal with dpkg and missing deps?
[11:22] <ablomen> no me neighter yast does let you download software in a apt get kinda way ;)
[11:23] <hatake_kakashi> apt-get is dpkg front-end, much like yum is for rpm's front-end
[11:23] <elkbuntu> hatake_kakashi, i find dpkg dependancy errors at least easy to understand what's missing :)
[11:23] <eobanb> except the debian and ubuntu repositories are arguably superior
[11:23] <morphix> all i want is some way to get my Promise Technology IDE & SATA RAID onboard controller to work properly with ubuntu
[11:23] <Alexi5> which desktop enviroment is good for a celeron 2.2GHZ with 768MB RAM
[11:23] <morphix> Alexi5: ever used Fluxbox or Openbox?
[11:23] <eobanb> that's plenty fast enough to run either kde or gnome.
[11:23] <morphix> very lightweight
[11:23] <ablomen> Alexi5, gnome $ kde should run fine on that
[11:23] <wassha> good day
[11:23] <Arafangion> That reminds me, how the heck do I run certain programs whenever I login, on fluxbox?
[11:24] <NET||abuse> woohoooo...  My laptop is a rebranded G730 (from ECS) and it has Mobility Radeon 7500 (with 64MB dedicated ram). I think that's similar to M7 (I could be wrong). And with ATI's proprietary driver, it runs pretty well (for gaming).
[11:24] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, you should have no probs with any DE on that
[11:24] <hatake_kakashi> elkbuntu: meh, some compare rpm to apt-get which is completely different
[11:24] <wassha> another day another noob problem
[11:24] <Arafangion> I'm trying to use gnome-volume-manager
[11:24] <NET||abuse> that's a snipit from forums... yay.. mobility 7500 works ;)
[11:24] <wassha> :)
[11:24] <morphix> Arafangion: ~/.fluxbox/init
[11:24] <Chrisx1> How do i clear aptitude from wanting to delete some files
[11:24] <Alexi5> ok
[11:24] <elkbuntu> hatake_kakashi, similar concept though
[11:24] <Alexi5> i feel i might go with kde
[11:24] <mwillis> I am trying to set up a minimal dev station.  Do you know any install tutorials I can use?
[11:24] <Arafangion> morphix, I thought that was just a configuration file?
[11:24] <hatake_kakashi> elkbuntu: similar but not exactly, its like yum vs. dpkg
[11:24] <elkbuntu> hatake_kakashi, hence the confusion. apples and oranges are both fruit, but they're nothing alike other than that ;)
[11:24] <Arafangion> morphix, It doesn't look anything like a shell script.
[11:24] <tennee> hello
[11:24] <KenSentMe> what is the best way to make Windows startup as default? Should i use saved or default under 'default num'  in menu.lst
[11:25] <thegladiator> is there a nautilus extention that lets me open files with root access ?
[11:25] <morphix> Arafangion: you specify in there what stuff u want to load up with fluxbox
[11:25] <Alexi5> does ubuntu have good documentation
[11:25] <thegladiator> Alexi5, yes
[11:25] <morphix> best i can find lol
[11:25] <eobanb> as good as any.
[11:25] <thegladiator> !doc
[11:25] <ubotu> doc is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[11:25] <tennee> hello folks
[11:25] <paquin> i need help with 3d desktop
[11:25] <paquin> i can't make it work
[11:25] <hatake_kakashi> elkbuntu: no no, you don't see my point, rpm doesn't do deps just like dpkg, both whinge if deps are missing. apt-get and yum are basically the ones that deals with them and providing deps, etc making life easier
[11:25] <ablomen> ore just the help button i the menu ;)
[11:25] <nathanj> anyone have any idea how to get azureus working with a 604T router?
[11:26] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell Alexi5 about doc
[11:26] <paquin> pls??
[11:26] <thegladiator> is there a nautilus extention that lets me open files with root access ?
[11:26] <Arafangion> morphix, So, just "gnome-volume-manager", along with all the "session.screen0.overlay.lineStyle: LineSolid" stuff?
[11:26] <eobanb> paquin, what do you need help with, exactly?
[11:26] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, not only best documentation, best community support ;)
[11:26] <paquin> i cant make it work
[11:26] <paquin> I assigned it to alt <f3>
[11:26] <eobanb> paquin, what are you trying to do...explain it very precisely, please
[11:26] <ablomen> thegladiator, sudo nautilus /home/
[11:26] <paquin> ok
[11:26] <morphix> !tell Arafangion about fluxbox
[11:26] <Alexi5> so i guess kubuntu does have this much support?
[11:27] <thegladiator> i am downloading  kernel 2 6 12 10 28
[11:27] <elkbuntu> ablomen, i dont think that's what he meant
[11:27] <paquin> I already installed 3ddesktop
[11:27] <thegladiator> ablomen, thats what I normally do...looking for a nautilus extention
[11:27] <paquin> and followed every step on wiki to make it work
[11:27] <thegladiator> so that I can avoid doing that every time
[11:27] <paquin> but
[11:27] <KenSentMe> what does the savedefault option do in grub?
[11:27] <paquin> it doesn't work at all
[11:28] <Arafangion> morphix, I've just never done it via that file, that's all.  Normally I edit .xinitrc, however if I'm not running X, for some wierd reason, my standby goes kupult.
[11:28] <ablomen> thegladiator, well if it exist it will still mean youd have to use your root password
[11:28] <paquin> my nvidia driver is working fine
[11:28] <paquin> I've got a nvidia 5200 fxgo
[11:28] <thegladiator> ablomen, yep I know that but it would be asier to right click on a file ....and open it up ...just making thigns easy
[11:28] <paquin> 64 MB
[11:29] <eobanb> paquin, does the daemon start?
[11:29] <thegladiator> ablomen, nautlis-open-terminal extention is very usefule for me
[11:29] <mwillis> Anyone care to tell me about their awesome ubuntu installation?
[11:29] <paquin> how do I do that??
[11:29] <ablomen> thegladiator, you can make a lill bash script
[11:29] <eobanb> paquin, it's on the wiki page
[11:29] <thegladiator> ablomen, yep thats correct , i was enuring there is nt something like that  then...
[11:30] <ablomen> thegladiator, or a launcher on your pannel that starts someting like "gksudo nautilus" that saves you the time of opening a terminal
[11:30] <thegladiator> do you guys remove he older kernels from the grub ?
[11:31] <Alexi5> hello
[11:31] <thegladiator> ablomen, thanks
[11:31] <thegladiator> the*
[11:31] <ablomen> thegladiator, good luck
[11:31] <NET||abuse> am i better off using fglrx drivers, or should i sarch out the ATI secific drivers??
[11:31] <NET||abuse> on my ATI mobility radeon 7500
[11:31] <Alexi5> does the ubuntu documentation also apply to kubuntu
[11:32] <ablomen> Alexi5, most of the time yes
[11:32] <Arafangion> NET||abuse, With mine, (Mine's a laptop model), I had good success with the ATI ones.
[11:32] <morphix> thegladiator do you guys remove he older kernels from the grub ? > if the newer kernel boots up perfect than yes, i remove the old one
[11:32] <Arafangion> morphix, I like to have a spare.
[11:32] <NET||abuse> Arafangion: what are the ATI ones called in the repos??
[11:32] <morphix> eh
[11:32] <thegladiator> thanks I have 3-4 kernels
[11:33] <thegladiator> I thought its safer to do that...mayb just keep a grub copy and change it over then
[11:33] <ablomen> Alexi5, only the kde thing is realy different ;)
[11:33] <NET||abuse> Arafangion: or do i have to download them and compile/install seperately from ATI site?
[11:34] <Alexi5> ok
[11:34] <thegladiator> Alexi5, are you in ubuntu/kubuntu which one ?
[11:34] <Alexi5> i have a tendency to switch destops in fedora
[11:34] <Alexi5> i am just trying to make up mu mind on which one to get
[11:35] <r00t3d_> algum br ai?
[11:35] <nathanj> anyone ever had trouble with linux and particular router ?
[11:35] <ablomen> Alexi5, lol i could tell you to use gnome but somebody else is gonna say kde ;)
[11:35] <thegladiator> ah cool its all avaialb , documentaiotn etc in ubuntu is very imperssive , me too migrated from fedora
[11:35] <Hobbsee> nathanj: router, no.  wireless card, yes
[11:35] <Hobbsee> nathanj: what type of router are you looking at?
[11:35] <Alexi5> ablomen:why would you say gnome
[11:35] <nathanj> Hobbsee: i dont see how it is possible.
[11:36] <thegladiator> I like gnome cause it has a very clear look and a simple feeling :)
[11:36] <nathanj> Hobbsee: a dlink g604t just connecting via ethernet i have internet but shit doesnt work
[11:36] <nathanj> Hobbsee: bittornado works, azureus doesnt.
[11:36] <thegladiator> no hypes and hooplahs just get working with pleasant looks
[11:36] <ablomen> Alexi5, becouse i love nautilus, i like most gnome apps better then most kde apps, i like the look, the feel, everything ;)
[11:36] <rezusr> have anyone installed sun sdk on dapper?
[11:36] <nathanj> Hobbsee: on windows i can use 10.1.1.1 as the dns and on linux i cant i have to use the isp dns servers
[11:37] <thegladiator> nathanj, azureus issues ask at #azureus , and  ensure that you have the correct port etc...they might be more helpful in these cases
[11:37] <paquin> ok
[11:37] <Hobbsee> nathanj: language, and check the open ports on the firewall on the router, i suspect.
[11:37] <Alexi5> konqueror is also good
[11:37] <Hobbsee> but follow what thegladiator said
[11:37] <paquin> I already ran 3ddesktop daemon
[11:37] <paquin> but i got error messages
[11:37] <paquin> like this one
[11:37] <ablomen> Alexi5, thats your opinion, i hate it, its just not my logic, it feels alien ;)
[11:38] <paquin> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:38] <Alexi5> i feel i might go with ubuntu becuase i get good support here than in kubuntu
[11:38] <sekhar> hai
[11:38] <matyas_za> I got a problem
[11:38] <thegladiator> the only thinkg that I dont like in gnome is maybe the menu area "file edit" etc  which looks all the same for every software be it eye of gnome or nautilus...
[11:38] <ablomen> Alexi5, for me using kde is like using a mac with the one mouse button thing ;)
[11:38] <matyas_za> i get this error msg
[11:38] <matyas_za> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[11:38] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: can u show me ur menu.lst?
[11:38] <paquin> how can I make 3ddesktop run??
[11:39] <sekhar> anyway can i change the size of the swap partition of the ubuntu?
[11:39] <thegladiator> everything looks as if it is just a single package under the gnome and nto like a diff software at all
[11:39] <thegladiator> I like each s/w to have its own look :)
[11:39] <ablomen> paquin, on theire site theres a good manual
[11:39] <Hobbsee> matyas_za: you can ignore it
[11:39] <Alexi5> can i instal kdevelop in gnome
[11:39] <paquin> do you have the url??
[11:39] <thegladiator> Alexi5, yes
[11:40] <Niekie> matyas_za, your best bet is to inform ftpmaster@ubuntu.com about it, I guess.
[11:40] <ablomen> paquin, google ;)
[11:40] <Alexi5> nice
[11:40] <thegladiator> Alexi5, I have both installed ...I like some kde apps like Konv
[11:40] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, yes, just gotta download right libs etc, which will be dependancies in apt
[11:40] <matyas_za> thanks guys
[11:40] <matyas_za> its when i run apt-get update
[11:40] <thegladiator> Alexi5, its a meta package called kde-desktop , you can just install it
[11:40] <Hobbsee> matyas_za: Niekie: it's only a warning, as long as you trust the source, which you do, it's fine
[11:40] <ablomen> paquin, just google on 3ddesktop or type that in your firefox location bar thingy
[11:40] <Alexi5> ok
[11:40] <matyas_za> I see thanks
[11:40] <cyberic_s> damn, anybody know how to get outlook express emails into thunderbird
[11:40] <Niekie> Hobbsee, someone "might" have breached the server tho.
[11:41] <sekhar> hii anyhow can i run change the size of swap partion of ubuntu?
[11:41] <Hobbsee> Niekie: it's possible
[11:41] <BockBilbo> anyone here knows why beagle from apt cant be installed on dapper?
[11:41] <Alexi5> guys
[11:41] <Alexi5> which is best to get
[11:41] <Alexi5> cd or dvd
[11:41] <chicken-man> Hi, I'm having problems starting gnome, I've just done a full install of ubuntu but after I login gnome displays a brown screen and will go no more, I get no errors I can see I'm using fluxbox at the moment, what should I do ?
[11:41] <ablomen> cyberic_s, the easyest thing to do is to import that into thunderbird on a windows box
[11:41] <Alexi5> if i getthe cd will i have to download gigs of software
[11:41] <steve60> anyone know how to setup el6
[11:42] <farous> steve60: e16 just run out of the box after installing it
[11:42] <Hobbsee> Alexi5: then again, it will take you much longer to get the dvd than the cd
[11:42] <farous> e17 on the other hand is the prob
[11:42] <chmod775> !w32codecs
[11:42] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:42] <steve60> what the irc channel for el6
[11:42] <yanis> how can I found what dev is in /dev a usb cdrom to device?I want to mount it
[11:42] <Alexi5> ok
[11:43] <ablomen> cyberic_s, after that you should copy the account files to your linux px
[11:43] <ablomen> *pc
[11:43] <mikelo> hi i'm trying yo install the server version to a P1 machine but i get a problem mounting the cdrom
[11:43] <Arafangion> steve60, #e, I think.
[11:43] <thegladiator> any one here runs Init NG ? aftr installing the new kernel I suppose the Init NG dissapeared ?!
[11:43] <ablomen> mikelo, whats the error?
[11:43] <zqy> hello
[11:43] <thegladiator> zqy, hello
[11:44] <sekhar> help me please
[11:44] <zqy> i cant use BT
[11:44] <zqy> WHY??
[11:44] <wassha> i am using Firestarter and cannot solve problem with thunderbird connection to gmail account.. i enable outside connection to 995 (pops) and 465(ssmtp) port, but when i try to get messages from gmail, firestarter shows that thuntherbird wants connect ports 33233 etc. (when i enable that port, it wants another one e.g. 33280)
[11:44] <thegladiator> sekhar, ask away....
[11:44] <chicken-man> Hi, I'm having problems starting gnome, I've just done a full install of ubuntu but after I login gnome displays a brown screen and will go no more, I get no errors I can see I'm using fluxbox at the moment, what should I do ?
[11:44] <chmod775> sekhar, hi
[11:44] <sekhar> the gladiator, anyhow can i change the size of swap partion ??
[11:44] <mikelo> ablomen, it says it can't detect the cdrom correctly
[11:44] <yanis> anybody
[11:44] <yanis> ?
[11:45] <Alexi5> this channel feels more lively than kubuntu
[11:45] <ablomen> mikelo, with just one cdrom, as in did you try others?
[11:45] <Alexi5> in the next 6 hours i will be installing ubuntu
[11:45] <thegladiator> sekhar, whats your current swap size?
[11:45] <morphix> out of all the distro help channles.. this channel is by far the most helping and friendly
[11:45] <thegladiator> !swap
[11:45] <ubotu> swap is, like, used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[11:45] <farous> chicken-man: ok look at a hidden file called .ICeauthority and see if you have write access to it
[11:45] <chmod775> Is there any application with ubuntu where I can easily change from wireless to normal connection ?
[11:46] <mikelo> ablomen, it's an old machine... i'm lucky it has a cdrom
[11:46] <krzkrzkrz> the default file system of ubuntu is ext3?
[11:46] <sekhar> my swap size is 1 gb
[11:46] <chmod775> But a click on an icon on the gnome taskbar
[11:46] <morphix> yes
[11:46] <bimberi> krz: yes
[11:46] <thegladiator> sekhar, sekharji go throuht this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[11:46] <ablomen> mikelo, i dindt ment the drive i ment the actual cdrom
[11:46] <chicken-man> farous, ok one moment
[11:46] <farous> chicken-man: also look for.Xauthourit you should have full access to both
[11:46] <wassha> so how sould i setup firestarter to work correctly with thunderbird gmail account?
[11:46] <chmod775> !firestarted
[11:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod775
[11:46] <zqy> HELP ME!I CANT USE bt
[11:46] <chmod775> !firestarter
[11:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[11:47] <krz> bimberi would it be possible to change the file system/
[11:47] <zqy> HELP ME!I CANT USE AZUREUS
[11:47] <mikelo> ablomen, it's been tested already, but i think i do have another one
[11:47] <mikelo> i'll try that
[11:47] <chmod775> !nm
[11:47] <ubotu> chmod775: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:47] <thegladiator> zqy, #azureus  Please :-)
[11:47] <chmod775> !network
[11:47] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[11:47] <chicken-man> farous, errrm how do I display hidden files using ls ?
[11:47] <chmod775> ls -alh
[11:48] <Chrisx1> ls -A
[11:48] <wassha> nobody knows?
[11:48] <bimberi> krz: yes, the installer offers other options if you manually partition
[11:48] <farous> ok got to log out and in again
[11:48] <athlon> I messed up my grub configuration, how do I restore it to the default condition ? That is, how do I tell grub to search where the windows and ubuntu partition are, create grub entries in menu.lst and install it on the right mbr
[11:48] <ablomen> mikelo, ok otherwise it could be a plug-and play problem but if the bios sees the cdrom it wont be that i think
[11:48] <mikelo> is it possible to change partition sizes?swap and other ones
[11:48] <KenSentMe> if i delete the .evolution folder in my home will evolution build it automaticly at restart?
[11:48] <chicken-man> farous, I have Read \ Write access to them
[11:49] <mikelo> ablomen, could be considering the age of the pc
[11:49] <thegladiator> KenSentMe, with defaults I think
[11:49] <KenSentMe> thegladiator, what do you mean?
[11:49] <ablomen> mikelo, shure that can be it, but it runs on most of the hardware iv seen, including pc's from the stone-age
[11:49] <thegladiator> KenSentMe, your personal data will be lost I think , like user pass etc
[11:50] <KenSentMe> thegladiator, i want to have my evolution like a fresh install, is this the way?
[11:50] <KenSentMe> thegladiator, that's what i want i think
[11:50] <thegladiator> KenSentMe, what about trying to remove the package ? can someone tell him how to remove the packagae and resintall it ?   also delete the dolfer if it is not already deleted
[11:51] <chmod775> how do I install jre for mozilla firefox
[11:51] <chmod775> ?
[11:51] <chicken-man> farous, Do I have to be able to execute them ...... ?
[11:51] <ablomen> KenSentMe, if you delete your profile dir you have a clean install, but youll lose all of your mail
[11:51] <thegladiator> chmod775, !restriced ?
[11:51] <KenSentMe> ablomen, that's what i wanted to know, thanx
[11:51] <ablomen> KenSentMe, for evolution that is
[11:51] <KenSentMe> k
[11:51] <chmod775> !restriced
[11:51] <ubotu> chmod775: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:51] <chmod775> huh ?
[11:52] <paquin> nope
[11:52] <ablomen> KenSentMe, so you should look for a .evolution dir in the home or .gnome2 dir
[11:52] <thegladiator> whats restricted format ubotu ?
[11:52] <paquin> already downloaded the newest version of nvidia
[11:52] <thegladiator> !restrictedformat
[11:52] <ubotu> thegladiator: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:52] <paquin> nothing
[11:52] <chmod775> hehe
[11:52] <bimberi> !restricted
[11:52] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:52] <paquin> can't make 3ddesktop work
[11:52] <thegladiator> yeah chmod775 !
[11:53] <KenSentMe> huh, i did rm -R .evolution, but when i started the program it had al my files already
[11:53] <thegladiator> typos guys I am full of it] 
[11:53] <thegladiator> see that ]  at the end ?!
[11:53] <thegladiator> k i am going to restart now ...new kernel testing
[11:53] <ablomen> KenSentMe, its easyer to remove it in nautilus
[11:53] <tibor> Hi all, I have some problems after yesterday'a automatic update of 5.10
[11:54] <tibor> I am the only chap with this problem?
[11:54] <ablomen> KenSentMe, if you click on view=>show hidden files, you can just delete it easely
[11:54] <KenSentMe> ablomen, i did, but my accounts weren't lost
[11:55] <tibor> the 686 kernel panics and I can only use the 386 kernel
[11:55] <ablomen> where did you delete them, witch folder exactly? (including the /home etc)
[11:55] <KenSentMe> ablomen, it just makes a new .ev folder and show my existing accounts
[11:55] <tibor> earlier the 686 kernel did well, withoput problems
[11:55] <KenSentMe> ablomen, i think i will try a full purge of evolution
[11:56] <KenSentMe> ablomen, that should help
[11:56] <raphael_> how can i search one file in the ubuntu?
[11:56] <ablomen> KenSentMe, ok good luck
[11:56] <farous> so each time i update the kernel. I need to recompile the ATI prop  drivers :(
[11:56] <KenSentMe> ablomen, i deleted it from my home/user folder
[11:56] <raphael_> how can i search one file in the ubuntu?
[11:57] <farous> raphael_: can you be more clear
[11:57] <mikelo> raphael, find / | grep file_name
[11:57] <raphael_> i want find, the folder MUSIC
[11:57] <tibor> raphael: find / -name file
[11:57] <ablomen> KenSentMe, ok... strange it should work, i cant see where it would store its mail if not there
[11:57] <farous> ls /dir/filename. or locate to find it in your path
[11:58] <raphael_> but, have one way on graphic mode?
[11:58] <tibor> raphael: find / -name MUSIC
[11:58] <KenSentMe> ablomen, when i try to fully delete evolution it suggest deleting ubuntu desktop, i don't think that's right
[11:58] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get gnome to start.
[11:58] <ablomen> lol no it isnt
[11:58] <farous> raphael_: the is a search icon in the menu
[11:58] <ablomen> KenSentMe, wait a sec im gonna try miselfe
[11:59] <KenSentMe> ablomen, k
[11:59] <bimberi> raphael_: Places -> Search for FIles...
[11:59] <farous> chicken-man: did you check that you have full access to both files
[11:59] <raphael_> ok thanks
[11:59] <ablomen> KenSentMe, ok iv found it
[11:59] <thegladiator> i have a bunh of rar files I downloaded from a movie site , the question is could there be virus in the same  ?
[11:59] <chicken-man> farous, Read, Write and Execute ;-)
[12:00] <thegladiator> its a documentary sort of thing
[12:00] <lulu> hi
[12:00] <chicken-man> farous, Read, I have full access to them files but it don't help
[12:00] <lulu> does anyone know what's passive ftp connection?
[12:00] <ablomen> KenSentMe, just go to your home folder, do ctrl+h and rename the .evolution folder to .evolution1 or anything like that
[12:00] <tibor> I have some problems after yesterday'a automatic update of 5.10
[12:00] <chicken-man> ooops
[12:00] <cappiz> someone here knows of a ftp client wich supports ssl/PRET/FXP transfers in only one command... meaning; i cant type a fulll command in shell and it would do the fxp... witout have to logon the first ftp
[12:00] <ablomen> KenSentMe, then it makes a new profile
[12:00] <cappiz> and then enter a fxp command.
[12:01] <tibor> the 686 kernel panics and I can only use the 386 kernel
[12:01] <ablomen> KenSentMe, offcoure you should quit evolution tough ;)
[12:01] <farous> chicken-man: i am trying to hink what might caused this prob. it only happen when you play with .gnome .gnome2 files
[12:01] <tibor> earlier the 686 kernel did well, without problems
[12:01] <KenSentMe> ablomen, let's try :)
[12:02] <chicken-man> farous, hmm well the only thing I've done from the install was to disable hotplug
[12:02] <raphael_> i cant find? the file must be on SDA1 SDA2 or SDA3 are NTFS files. and say the permision denie
[12:02] <raphael_> denied
[12:02] <KenSentMe> ablomen, it just created a new .ev folder with my files in it !
[12:02] <KenSentMe> KenSentMe, i'm going to reboot, maybe that helps
[12:02] <ablomen> did you close evolution?
[12:02] <farous> chicken-man: sorry man i have no idea
[12:02] <tibor> do find with sudo
[12:02] <KenSentMe> ablomen, yes
[12:02] <chicken-man> farous, lol ok :-)
[12:02] <farous> hope you can find your prob :)
[12:03] <raphael_> ?
[12:03] <chicken-man> farous, me to, other than that I'll use KDE
[12:03] <ablomen> KenSentMe, damn it did work for me, just for the sake of it, type killall evolution in your terminal and try again ok?
[12:03] <farous> chicken-man: they are all good. Preferring fluxbox here myself
[12:04] <ablomen> KenSentMe, like the whole renaming thing again and then open evolution
[12:04] <raphael_> plz, help me
[12:04] <chicken-man> farous, :-D yeah fluxbox is nice
[12:05] <raphael_> how  can i find this files? i have the password
[12:05] <ablomen> raphael_, you have to set permisions right in /etc/fstab
[12:06] <skunk_eyed> hi i need some help concerning my router and ubuntu
[12:06] <skunk_eyed> basically my router gives 192.168.0.1 as the dns server when you configure via dhcp. on windows it workts fine, my router routes all dns requests to the dns servers it got form my isp
[12:06] <skunk_eyed> in windows this works fine, but in ubuntu it cannot get the IPs from a url
[12:06] <raphael_> how can i ser the permission?
[12:06] <thegladiator> raphael, chmod
[12:06] <ablomen> thegladiator, no he means in fstab
[12:06] <KenSentMe> ablomen, nope, doesn't help
[12:07] <thegladiator> oh sorry
[12:07] <cyberic_s> hey guys, what is a good ftp client
[12:07] <ablomen> KenSentMe, damn your evolution is damn stubern
[12:07] <farous> shimmmy: put your router address in your default gateway section
[12:07] <raphael_> chmod ??? what more
[12:07] <thegladiator> cyberic_s, try !ftp
[12:07] <Arafangion> cyberic_s, "ftp" is the canonical program, afaik.
[12:07] <KenSentMe> ablomen, when i do the killall evolution it says no processes have ended (in dutch)
[12:07] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell cyberic_s about ftp
[12:07] <tomplast> hi, are there any guys out there that knows anything about firewire
[12:07] <ablomen> KenSentMe, a nederlands das al makkelijker ;)
[12:08] <Arafangion> !tell tomplast about ask
[12:08] <KenSentMe> ablomen, lol, inderdaad
[12:08] <skunk_eyed> actually. in the network config dialogue it has the dns server
[12:08] <skunk_eyed> and if i put in the dns server manually it works...
[12:08] <skunk_eyed> as in the dns servers my router gets from isp
[12:08] <tomplast> I have a Intel D865PERL motherboard with integrated firewire support but i cant get it working.
[12:09] <ablomen> KenSentMe, erm probeer anders is voor de grap de premissions van de .evolution mat naar niet mogen schrijven en lezen etc te zetten
[12:09] <ablomen> *map
[12:09] <KenSentMe> ablomen, chmod 000?
[12:09] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Try not to ask simultaniously in several channels.
[12:10] <skunk_eyed> sry
[12:10] <ablomen> KenSentMe, antwoord is in deprivate chat
[12:10] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, However, that aside, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and set the prepend domain-name-servers to the correct value.
[12:10] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, That is only required if the dhcp server does NOT provide the correct dns servers.
[12:11] <skunk_eyed> what kind of value woudl that be?
[12:11] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Are you using dhcp?
[12:11] <tomplast> can anyone help me?
[12:11] <skunk_eyed> yes
[12:11] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Edit the file using your favorite editor using sudo, then find the line that begins with #prepend
[12:11] <KenSentMe> ablomen, zie je mijn chat?
[12:12] <skunk_eyed> wait, i will reboot and have a go
[12:12] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Then write a new line below that, using that line as a guide.
[12:12] <tomplast> it really pisses me of to not be able to use my handycam (uses a docking station) :/
[12:12] <thegladiator> tomplast, ask in the forums also please , since ppl might not know it out here atm
[12:12] <tomplast> oki
[12:12] <tomplast> thanks
[12:12] <tomplast> bye
[12:12] <thegladiator> ciao
[12:12] <ablomen> KenSentMe,
[12:13] <ablomen> KenSentMe, wacht ff ;)
[12:13] <KenSentMe> ablomen, k
[12:13] <KenSentMe> ablomen, is toch rechtermuis, dialoogvenster openen
[12:13] <ablomen> KenSentMe, probeer nog is (xchat werkt niet erg mee)
[12:14] <KenSentMe> ablomen, is toch rechtermuis, dialoogvenster openen
[12:15] <ablomen> KenSentMe, private kan niet
[12:15] <elkbuntu> err.. isnt there a channel for whichever language youse are speaking?
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, we try to
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, but private doent work
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, sorry
[12:15] <reza> hey
[12:15] <elkbuntu> are your nicks registered?
[12:15] <reza> i have a problem
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, mine is
[12:15] <ablomen> elkbuntu, nope thats the prob
[12:16] <elkbuntu> then register, it's not as though it costs or anything
[12:16] <ablomen> elkbuntu, i know but i first have to know how :P
[12:16] <reza> when i play wolfenstein then the windows go black and then normal but it slow then
[12:16] <reza> but then when it goes black and normal again it is fast
[12:16] <ablomen> elkbuntu, understanding linux.. ok understanding irc.. not my thinh
[12:17] <elkbuntu> -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>
[12:17] <elkbuntu> -NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information
[12:17] <ablomen> ok thanks
[12:17] <reza> can anybody help?
[12:17] <morphix> anyone know of a way to get "Promise Technology Fasttrak 378 IDE/SATA RAID" controller to work under Ubuntu?
[12:17] <schasi> someone else got probs with wxgtk and amule?
[12:17] <skunk_eyed> sorry, but where do i find an xterm in the menus?
[12:18] <ablomen> KenSentMe, heb je niet gewoon msn ofz is n stuk makkelijker ;)
[12:18] <reza> lol
[12:18] <reza> nl
[12:18] <reza> :P
[12:18] <krz> does the install cd have some packages available?
[12:18] <KenSentMe> ablomen, jeroen@vandenieuwenhof.com
[12:18] <morphix> krz: yes
[12:19] <mahen> hell
[12:19] <mahen> +o
[12:19] <krz> i installed through the install cd. how do i tell what packages are available. im hoping to install fluxbox as my wm
[12:19] <morphix> ah
[12:19] <morphix> fluxbox isnt included on cd (that i am aware of)
[12:19] <kent> krz: search for them in synaptic?
[12:19] <morphix> just do
[12:19] <morphix> apt-get install fluxbox
[12:19] <usuario_> wadu
[12:19] <morphix> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:20] <reza> my xreen gos black
[12:20] <reza> screen
[12:20] <reza> and then normaal but it is slow
[12:20] <krz> also. how do i know that most of my hardware has been installed correctly?
[12:20] <krz> installed = configured
[12:21] <elkbuntu> anyone know why xfce update packages are being held back at the moment
[12:21] <kent> krz: if you dont know its not configured-  assume it is   :) I meen,  if you dont have any problems with  the hardware then its all good right?
[12:22] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion: do i need to uncomment the prepend line?
[12:23] <Seveas> elkbuntu, try dist-upgrade
[12:23] <Seveas> instead of upgrade
[12:23] <elkbuntu> Seveas, i will, just wondering if there was some uber breaky thing likely to happen ;)
[12:23] <Seveas> yes
[12:24] <Seveas> it's dapper - breakage is always possible
[12:24] <elkbuntu> of course, but i like to have advanced warning, lol
[12:24] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Note, a # means that it is a comment, and your computer will ignore the remainder of the line
[12:24] <elkbuntu> i'll let youse know in a few mins... ;)
[12:24] <krz> right click unmount volume will safetly remove the usb device right?
[12:24] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion: I know that
[12:25] <skunk_eyed> the prepend line is commented, do i need to uncomment it?
[12:25] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Depends. Do you want the system to use the line?
[12:25] <brenner> krz: yes
[12:25] <nonade> join #Ubuntu-fr
[12:25] <elkbuntu> whoa....
[12:27] <elkbuntu> seveas.. im inclined to say 'n'... what do you think... http://pastebin.com/559281
[12:27] <Seveas> elkbuntu, apt-get -s install -o"Debug::PkgProblemResolver=true"
[12:27] <Seveas> and output on the pastebin
[12:28] <Seveas> ehm, not install but dist-upgrade of course
[12:28] <elkbuntu> so im correct in being suspicious?
[12:28] <nm> wow talk about hardcores
[12:28] <nm> when i get up at 6
[12:28] <nm> this channel should be dead
[12:28] <northie> We're European.
[12:28] <Seveas> elkbuntu, somewhat
[12:28] <nm> oh
[12:28] <Seveas> nm, it's a global channel...
[12:29] <northie> Go Euroooope.
[12:29] <Seveas> go where?
[12:29] <nm> <- canuck
[12:29] <northie> All over yo face, mama
[12:29] <nm> but i'll keep it in mind
[12:29] <nm> ;p
[12:29] <bimberi> nm, 'evening from down under :)
[12:29] <northie> Har. Hi.
[12:29] <nm> bimberi: god save the queen
[12:29] <nm> hehe
[12:29] <Toma-> gday bimberi :D
[12:29] <bimberi> nm: lol
[12:29] <morphix> :o
[12:30] <bimberi> hi Toma-  :)
[12:30] <elkbuntu> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/559288
[12:30] <Toma-> what side of AU are u on?
[12:30] <morphix> i'm in aus :)
[12:30] <kasim> hello, any chance of getting my amd64 with SATA installed? Breezy was no success
[12:30] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion: it will prepend 127.0.01 to my resolv file. but i want the dns servers i get via dhcp to be used
[12:30] <bimberi> Toma-: from the east, and even worse (to you Sandgropers) - Canberra!
[12:30] <elkbuntu> we should start up an ubuntu-aus channel ;)
[12:31] <bimberi> :P
[12:31] <Toma-> haha
[12:31] <morphix> lol
[12:31] <bimberi> there is #ubuntu-au
[12:31] <elkbuntu> we could call it ubuntau ;)
[12:31] <Toma-> canberra is more of a 1 horse town than perth :D
[12:31] <elkbuntu> wtf i looked the other day and didnt see it
[12:31] <morphix> i live near Sydney :)
[12:31] <Seveas> elkbuntu, 'n'
[12:31] <nm> instead of one horse town, you should call it 'one nameserver town'
[12:31] <Chrisx1> checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 2540: lex: command not found
[12:31] <elkbuntu> already did that, figured i could do the command again if needed
[12:32] <Chrisx1> what does that mean
[12:32] <Seveas> Chrisx1, apt-get install flex bison build-essential
[12:32] <Chrisx1> thanks
[12:32] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, It is very odd that they aren't.
[12:32] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, They do here.
[12:33] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Is it correctly updating the resolv.conf file?
[12:33] <elkbuntu> Seveas, shall i make a post on forum or something?
[12:33] <skunk_eyed> basically, my router sends its ip address as dns, then routes all dns traffic to the servers it get from my isp
[12:33] <Seveas> elkbuntu, just poke janimo in #xubuntu 
[12:33] <elkbuntu> okies
[12:33] <skunk_eyed> works in windows, nto in ubuntu. also worked in my old system
[12:34] <nm> skunk_eyed: can't you just place your NAT router's IP address in your /etc/resolv.conf
[12:34] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion yes it is
[12:34] <nm> that should work fine
[12:34] <elkbuntu> hmmm, Seveas, he aint there :P
[12:34] <skunk_eyed> it's in there
[12:34] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Then it should be working.
[12:35] <skunk_eyed> yes, that is what i thought should happen
[12:35] <Seveas> elkbuntu, so then you wait for him to show up 
[12:35] <elkbuntu> Seveas, what are his usual hours, do you know?
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> is it too late to suggest packages for dapper?
[12:36] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, yes
[12:36] <Shadowpillar> damn
[12:36] <Shadowpillar> I was gonna suggest the Xorg Genius Wizardpen driver
[12:36] <Shadowpillar> is it in dapper?
[12:37] <Seveas> !find xorg-driver-input dapper
[12:37] <morphix> on my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(
[12:37] <kent> Seveas: how do you write that smiley?
[12:37] <Seveas> kent like this: 
[12:37] <Toma-> its japanese
[12:37] <skunk_eyed> this is annoying
[12:37] <elkbuntu> he also has a retarded fuzzy circle...
[12:37] <Seveas> elkbuntu, no i ditched that one 
[12:37] <elkbuntu> yay
[12:38] <Toma-> :
[12:38] <Seveas> Toma-, dude, go to a medic, your upper lip is busted...
[12:38] <Toma-> _
[12:38] <Toma-> hehe
[12:38] <elkbuntu> it could be hare-lip seveas ;)
[12:38] <Toma-> its a long nose
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xorg-driver-input' returned no results.
[12:39] <Toma-> :-
[12:40] <Seveas> Shadowline, it's not in dapper
[12:40] <steve60> could anyone point me in the directions of a help guide to enlightenment 6 I,E, desktop resolution icons etc...etc...
[12:40] <Toma-> steve60, you mean, 16.6?
[12:41] <steve60> Toma-, yeah
[12:41] <Toma-> you want to make your own theme?
[12:42] <nm> why use SSL for connections to the wiki?
[12:42] <nm> waste of bandwidth, really..
[12:42] <mahangu|study> anyone know how i can make it so thunderbird doesnt dl attachments?
[12:43] <krz> i need to download codecs for my vedeos. what codecs do i need?
[12:43] <inga> hi
[12:43] <sambagirl> chao
[12:43] <sambagirl> what is a proxy server?
[12:43] <steve60> win32 codecs
[12:43] <steve60> !w32codecs
[12:43] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:43] <steve60> krz, type sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:43] <steve60> in the terminal
[12:43] <Arafangion> sambagirl, Do you know what a server is?
[12:44] <brenner> steve60: they ain't in the official repos
[12:44] <sambagirl> ofcourse someone who serves
[12:44] <dfhfd> Hello
[12:44] <Arafangion> sambagirl, Good, now consult your dictionary and see what "proxy" means :)
[12:44] <brenner> ha
[12:44] <dfhfd> I have weird problem:
[12:44] <krz> steve60 does that include codecs like xvid, divx, etc?
[12:44] <dfhfd> My keyboard don't resporting in KDE.
[12:44] <dfhfd> What can I do?
[12:45] <elkbuntu> dfhfd, you've checked connections, tried another keyboard etc etc?
[12:45] <dfhfd> I have leptop. It's prety problem check connection etc.
[12:45] <steve60> krz, i presume so
[12:45] <elkbuntu> dfhfd, model etc etc
[12:45] <inga> i have a breezy updated from hoary and getting errors while apt-get is generating locales which leaves some packages unconfigured. including ubuntu minimal and ubuntu-base
[12:46] <steve60> krz, i know it has the useuall WMV AVI etc etc...
[12:46] <dfhfd> How can I check the model?
[12:46] <elkbuntu> dfhfd, of the laptop... usually it'll have it written on it
[12:46] <dfhfd> My laptop is compaq Evo N160
[12:46] <MuLLeR> hehe me back .. grub load .. WXP not .. :)
[12:46] <_diogo> greetings!
[12:47] <brenner> MuLLeR: any errors?
[12:47] <_diogo> trivia: where do the release names for ubuntu come from? are they just completely original?
[12:47] <MuLLeR> brenner: says unknown partition type .. and shows some symbols ... and hangs
[12:49] <_diogo> nobody knows that?
[12:49] <MuLLeR> brenner: but ubuntu loaded k now ... Ubuntu is on a PATA drive XP on a SATA ... grub in MBR of PATA
[12:49] <brenner> MuLLeR: my guess is grub isn't set up correctly.  what was your original problem?  i missed it.
[12:49] <omerlh> I was dfgh whatever.
[12:49] <MuLLeR> brenner: the original problem was the XP doesn't want to load ..
[12:50] <MuLLeR> brenner: i used lilo
[12:50] <inga> is there a german speaking ubuntu-channel?
[12:50] <_diogo> inga: is there a SPEAKING ubuntu channel?!?!
[12:50] <inga> because my aptget output is partially german
[12:50] <bimberi> !de
[12:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:50] <inga> thx ubotu
[12:51] <brenner> MuLLeR: why didn't xp load?
[12:52] <elkbuntu> omerlh, i have no idea, i cant seem to find any other instances of problems quite like non-functional keyboard
[12:52] <elkbuntu> omerlh closest i've found is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67546&highlight=compaq+evo+keyboard
[12:52] <elkbuntu> omerlh, where only some things didnt work
[12:52] <MuLLeR> brenner: dunno .. it just hanged
[12:52] <omerlh> My friend said all did was tipe "info".
[12:52] <sambagirl> what is secure tunnel?
[12:52] <ablomen> REGISTER ab0893
[12:52] <MuLLeR> brenner: the bootstrap process
[12:53] <ablomen> lol oops
[12:53] <omerlh> I can't type anything anywhere. Not even konsol.
[12:53] <sambagirl> check your keyboard cable
[12:53] <sambagirl> then if not still pull power plug and then put back
[12:53] <omerlh> I have laptop, it prety hard.
[12:54] <elkbuntu> hmm i wonder if it needs a modprobe... seveas, have you any idea what the modprobe command for a laptop keyboard would be?
[12:54] <brenner> omerlh: does it work in gnome?
[12:54] <omerlh> Yeah, that's the weirdest thing.
[12:55] <omerlh> Only in KDE the problem exict.
[12:55] <elkbuntu> brenner, it wouldnt be xorg related in some way would it?
[12:56] <brenner> sambagirl: we're not dictionaries.  maybe try something like wikipedia
[12:57] <brenner> elkbuntu: dunno.  i would've thought kde would use the same xorg settings as gnome
[12:57] <elkbuntu> brenner, i'm thinking some sort of conflict though
[12:57] <elkbuntu> brenner, something kde is doing that gnome isnt
[12:57] <sambagirl> well Seveas is, i just asked a question to have simple explanation not research for thesis.
[12:57] <elkbuntu> sambagirl, seveas is what?
[12:58] <Shadowpillar> !find xorg-driver-input dapper
[12:58] <omerlh> What it is?
[12:58] <brenner> elkbuntu: a dictionary apparently. :)
[12:58] <elkbuntu> brenner, one word.. rofl
[12:58] <thegladiator> is it possible for me resize the icons of my desktop ?
[12:58] <thegladiator> using gconf editor or something ?
[12:59] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: lame, because it'd be nice to have a supported driver for my tablet, I compiled my own, and it's stable as hell
[12:59] <ablomen> thegladiator, just do right-click resize
[12:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xorg-driver-input' returned no results.
[12:59] <thegladiator> ablomen: I have to do that for each one :( i was looking for a standard size to size verything to some value
[12:59] <omerlh> I search in google, nothing usefull.
[01:00] <ablomen> thegladiator, maybe in a config file in the .gnome2 folder or something
[01:00] <moggio_> where is the kernel source in ubuntu?
[01:00] <thegladiator> yes I a looking for some cnfiguration editing in gconf editor or something
[01:01] <MuLLeR> here's my grub conf ... maybe i missedup somewhere ... why XP doesn't boot?
[01:01] <MuLLeR> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/D6ASCi31.html
[01:01] <omerlh> I tried work with gnome, but battery status don't work there. Why?
[01:02] <thegladiator> what about arranging icons other than "keep aligned" ? is it possible to horzontally align all the icons ?
[01:03] <thegladiator> or vertically align for that matter
[01:03] <thegladiator> ?
[01:05] <brenner> MuLLeR: looks OK to me.  something to check: is the windows partition bootable?
[01:05] <MuLLeR> brenner: yes .. it's setuped as active ..
[01:06] <brenner> so it has the boot flag on?
[01:06] <MuLLeR> brenner: yes
[01:07] <brenner> MuLLeR: time to hit the forum.  use that unkown partition error as your search string
[01:07] <mwillis> Hey guys.  Is Ubuntu better than Debian?
[01:08] <elkbuntu> mwillis, that's entirely a matter of opinion
[01:08] <mwillis> hehe I see
[01:08] <omerlh> There is anything to configure for battery status?
[01:08] <omerlh> under gnome.
[01:09] <Zerobyte> how do I install tcl?
[01:09] <MuLLeR> k thanx for the help
[01:09] <morphix> on my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(
[01:09] <brenner> mwillis: nice try :)
[01:10] <mwillis> brenner: haha, I'm really curious!
[01:10] <omerlh> I have to go. GOOD BAY.
[01:10] <brenner> suuure
[01:10] <elkbuntu> mwillis, your only way of knowing if YOU prefer it is to download it and try it. the livecd will give you a fair indication :)
[01:10] <peej> morphix : did you take a look in the F2-5?6?7? menus for kernel options to try?
[01:10] <bimberi> !debian
[01:10] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[01:10] <mwillis> brenner, no, really!
[01:11] <MrFreeBird> hi there. How can I create a script to automate ftp?
[01:11] <mwillis> hehe
[01:11] <mjr> MrFreeBird, by using expect
[01:11] <morphix> peej morphix : did you take a look in the F2-5?6?7? menus for kernel options to try? << eh??
[01:11] <MrFreeBird> I wanna do many things, and I dont want to type ftp commands every time
[01:11] <peej> MrFreeBird: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/346
[01:12] <mjr> MrFreeBird, or rather, use lftp -f script_file
[01:12] <mjr> on yeah, basic ftp was scriptable too
[01:12] <mjr> always forget that
[01:13] <brenner> Zerobyte: aren't tcl files just scripts?  iirc, tcl support is provided with all *nix systems by default
[01:13] <peej> morphix: during install you can press f2 f3 f4 etc rather than going for default boot option. Maybe the hints in the other pages will help.
[01:14] <morphix> hmm.
[01:14] <NET||abuse> hmm, how do enable dapper repo's from breezy?
[01:14] <sittisal> why in dapper's gdm lots of icons are missing?
[01:14] <NET||abuse> i'm working on getting glx and compviz working
[01:14] <NET||abuse> Xgl even.
[01:14] <Seveas> !xgl
[01:14] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:15] <NET||abuse> thanks Seveas
[01:16] <mwillis> Are ubuntu advances feeding back into Debian, too?
[01:17] <elkbuntu> ubuntu advances feed into the whole Open Source community, mwillis, that's how Open Source works :)
[01:20] <kent> How come in Dapper the logout dialog is diffrent if I use the logout-applet compared to the System->Log out?  It seems a bit strange..
[01:20] <NET||abuse> does this mean i'll have to re-install completely my laptop with dapper, i'm on breezy now? is there an upgrade path to follow that will allow Xgl to work?
[01:20] <mandavi> someone knows why my ipw2200 does not reconnect after the wireless connection was temprorarily disconnected - i can't even reconnect with the build-in network configuration tool
[01:21] <volvoguy> quick question, as I have zero AMD experience. i have a hand-me-down "AMD Athlon, CPU Family=6, Model=2, 700Mhz". is the 686 the best kernel for this machine or the k7?
[01:21] <Toma-> k7
[01:21] <Toma-> no,
[01:21] <Toma-> k6
[01:21] <volvoguy> there is no k6.
[01:21] <Toma-> oh rly...
[01:21] <peej> kent: it's supposedly more ergonomic
[01:21] <farous> mandavi: i do not knwo why it does that but restarting the router always helped here
[01:22] <Toma-> volvoguy, to be honest, kernel optimizations are barely noticable...
[01:22] <Toma-> id go the 686
[01:22] <kent> peej: is it ergonomic with two diffrent dialogs for the same thing? I have no objects regarding the applet for logging out, just that the dialog looks diffrent..
[01:22] <volvoguy> Toma-: that was my guess too. thx for the confirmation. :)
[01:22] <mandavi> farous: i restarted the whole machine till now - how do i restart the router?
[01:23] <farous> mandavi: where are you running the machine.
[01:23] <mandavi> farous: at my window...? what do you mean?
[01:23] <brenner> i thought the 686 kernel was geared more towards intel machines ... the linux-k7 package specifically targets athlon/durons.  wouldn't that be better?
[01:23] <farous> mandavi: or in other word do you use a home based wireless network like me
[01:23] <mandavi> farous: yes, homebased
[01:24] <farous> farous: do you use wireless router at home. if so unplug the router and plugit again
[01:24] <mateon> for k6 you have to go with 386, sorry
[01:24] <Toma-> brenner, the optimizations do bugger all in real world times
[01:24] <mandavi> it is a not encrypted free wireless lan
[01:24] <mandavi> farous: it is a not encrypted free wireless lan
[01:24] <brenner> Toma-: i know.  i tried out 686 on a p4 and didn't notice any gains
[01:24] <farous> mandavi: does not matter i found that most of the time it is the wireless router prob
[01:25] <Toma-> *nod*
[01:25] <brenner> Toma-: i'm just wondering why go for the 686 if the k7 targets amds ... at least in the descr.
[01:26] <Toma-> *shrug*. k7 might have conflicting calls with the older k6
[01:26] <pappan> is pdf reader available in breezy in the installation cd ?
[01:26] <farous> mandavi: and if i were you i would take some security measure you do not want unauth person to log in your private lan
[01:26] <mateon> Toma-: and 686
[01:26] <farous> pappan: yap evince
[01:26] <Toma-> 686 supports really old stuff
[01:26] <pappan> farous: ty seems like i have missed it
[01:27] <farous> pappan: no problem
[01:27] <pappan> i guess i have to install thru aptitude and select not-installed packages
[01:27] <mandavi> farous: it is an open city-lan, not my private
[01:28] <farous> oh ok mandavi sorry misunderstood you
[01:28] <omerlh> Hello again
[01:28] <mateon> Toma-: 686 is pentium pro and up, I suppose you could run 586 on a k6
[01:28] <brenner> Toma-: ah, so mostly for the safety of coverage?
[01:28] <farous> mandavi: have you tried ifup and ifdown
[01:28] <omerlh> I have ywo problems:
[01:28] <mandavi> farous: no, not yet
[01:28] <omerlh> First, my keboard don't resporting in KDE. I have laptop.
[01:28] <mandavi> farous: what else do you do to restart the router for the wlan?
[01:28] <farous> what is your wireless device name mandavi
[01:28] <mandavi> eth1
[01:29] <farous> ok sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1
[01:29] <omerlh> Second, in gnome, I can't know what my battery status.
[01:29] <mandavi> farous: alright, thank you, will try at the next disconnect....
[01:29] <farous> mandavi: having casual disconnection is normal my friend you will get it a lot
[01:30] <Xamusk> hello
[01:30] <Xamusk> the network-manager applet is highly unstable here
[01:30] <mandavi> farous: it is actually not all that many times, sometimes it runs properly for two, three days
[01:30] <Xamusk> I have to kill it all the time
[01:31] <farous> mandavi: that is exceptional for me ? my router at home is really bad that i am using the ethernet cable. gave up on wirless
[01:32] <Xamusk> i.e. I had to set the wep key manually with iwconfig and now I'm connected, the applet shows that it's still waiting for a key
[01:32] <mandavi> farous: move to berlin - free city-lan at some parts of the city - and with some privacy tool fair anough
[01:32] <farous> mandavi: your mayour is a great man :)
[01:33] <mandavi> farous: city major?
[01:33] <mandavi> farous: or the new female cancellor?
[01:33] <thegladiator> tkae the major chat to #ubuntu-major channel :-) jk
[01:34] <farous> oh mandavi you are not reg
[01:34] <farous> ok this is a support channel so chatting is not liked here perhaps ubuntu-offtopic is better room
[01:34] <thegladiator> cancellor ? chancellor :)
[01:35] <farous> sorry firend tried to send it to you as private message but failed
[01:35] <mandavi> thegladiator: chancellor....
[01:35] <thegladiator> yeah mandavi
[01:36] <mandavi> farous: it worked, just haven't seen it
[01:36] <thegladiator> i'd like to see your dektops , anyone has screenshots ?
[01:36] <farous> :)
[01:36] <brenner> thegladiator: http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7475/screenshot7dw.png
[01:37] <farous> thegladiator: mine is modest not that shinney
[01:37] <brenner> obviously i like black. :)
[01:37] <elkbuntu> thegladiator also, i dare say there would be threads about desktop setups in the forum, maybe search there too :)
[01:37] <thegladiator> thanks I like to see though
[01:37] <thegladiator> elkbuntu: yeah I shall never new that :)
[01:38] <elkbuntu> thegladiator, do you know the forums url?
[01:38] <Xamusk> brenner: whoa... nice desktop
[01:38] <thegladiator> brenner: dud I kinda like , obvious you are someone to watch out for  :)
[01:38] <thegladiator> elkbuntu: yep
[01:38] <brenner> Xamusk: thank the theme creator...his hard work, not mine
[01:38] <thegladiator> brenner: mind telling the theme names ?
[01:39] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[01:39] <Xamusk> brenner: yeah, but I haven't seen nothing like it before
[01:40] <brenner> thegladiator: gtk and gkrellm theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24409 ... the desktop was from deviantart i think
[01:40] <farous> thegladiator: go to ubuntuforums.org/gallery
[01:40] <thegladiator> thanks I shall give a try
[01:40] <NoWhereMan> I don't know what after I installed rox-filer in xfce I've lost my desktop image and can't left click to have the menu... what should I do?
[01:41] <paolob> Hi guys! Where is the .history file in ubuntu? man history says it's ~/.history, but I don't see it
[01:41] <elkbuntu> paolob, did you enable viewing hidden files?
[01:41] <paolob> elkbuntu, yes
[01:41] <farous> NoWhereMan: because nautilus took care of that and you replaced it with rox-filer
[01:41] <brenner> paolob: .bash_history
[01:42] <brenner> maybe?
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> farous, huh, now I've removed rox-filer
[01:42] <derek[] > Hi
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> farous, what have i to do, then?
[01:42] <derek[] > How do I install PCF fonts?
[01:42] <elkbuntu> NoWhereMan, maybe try reinstalling nautilus?
[01:42] <farous> NoWhereMan: youdo not need ro remvoe rox-filler just in a terminal type nautilus
[01:42] <xored> i need to restore some deleted files. I deleted them yesterday an immediately mounted the drive readonly, so nothing is overwritten. Are there better tools then e2undel ( its ext2) to unerase files ?a
[01:42] <elkbuntu> or that
[01:43] <paolob> brenner, thank you!
[01:43] <NoWhereMan> good it worked
[01:43] <farous> NoWhereMan: you can have them both installed
[01:43] <sivang> hi all
[01:43] <NoWhereMan> farous, it worked, then I'll reinstall nautilus
[01:44] <farous> NoWhereMan: if it worked than it is already installed :)
[01:44] <NoWhereMan> farous, lol
[01:44] <derek[] > Are PCF fonts installed in a different way from that of TTF ones?
[01:44] <NoWhereMan> farous, then if I logout and in it should stay there?
[01:44] <sivang> I have a weird problem with my desktop events sounds, is tehre anyway to enable them?
[01:45] <sivang> sound is working okay,
[01:46] <sivang> and media files have their sound working, including login sound. I'm missing the ubuntu sound theme music at login,
[01:46] <sivang> as well as gaim sounds
[01:46] <sivang> anybody have an idea?
[01:46] <sivang> maybe it's a metacity problem that it needs to knwo to allow those sounds to work?
[01:46] <thegladiator> brenner: hwo do I install the industrial engine ?
[01:46] <[olli] > hey, is there a way to export address book and/or calender data from evolution? (ubuntu 5.10)
[01:46] <sivang> pitti: maybe you have an idea?
[01:46] <twb> So breezy and dapper equate to Debian's sarge and etch respectively?
[01:47] <franke> need help with virtual hosts in lan!! they work from the outside, but not from the inside of the lan
[01:47] <NoWhereMan> farous, erm... I meant to have back the xfce left click menu, not the gnome one... sorry I wasn't clear
[01:47] <BockBilbo> hey
[01:47] <twb> thegladiator: aptitude install gtk2-engines-industrial gtk-engines-industrial
[01:47] <farous> am nor running xfce never liked it so sorry do not know
[01:47] <wie> why its change to
[01:48] <wie> aptitude
[01:48] <wie> ?:\
[01:48] <thegladiator> thanks aptitude ?
[01:48] <thegladiator> apt-get ?
[01:48] <twb> wie: what?
[01:48] <thegladiator> lol
[01:48] <NoWhereMan> farous, than you anyway
[01:48] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: either way is fine
[01:48] <thegladiator> ah
[01:48] <thegladiator> thanks
[01:48] <farous> uw:)
[01:48] <[olli] > seems to me there is no export data from evolution
[01:49] <BockBilbo> im using dapper and i have mysql-server-5.0 installed on it.  It seens that even though the mysql process is running, no program can iniziate any mysql socket to be connected to sql server... it only works if i reinstall the server... but after rebooting, everything starts working bad again. Any idea of how to fix this?
[01:49] <Ng> [olli] : what do you want to export it to?
[01:49] <[olli] > Ng: csv text file at least
[01:49] <morphix> on my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(
[01:49] <BockBilbo> i get this: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[01:50] <Ng> [olli] : it stores data in fairly standard formats already - like mail is just mboxes, calendar is a .ics, etc.
[01:51] <Ng> the contacts isn't so standard though i spose
[01:51] <gnomefreak> BockBilbo: 13 as in error 13 premissions denied?
[01:51] <BockBilbo> gnomefreak, dont think so..
[01:51] <[olli] > Ng: isn't the addressbook.db a binary file?
[01:51] <NoWhereMan[away] > farous xfdesktop in the terminal did it :)
[01:51] <Ng> yeah, it's a berkely db
[01:51] <BockBilbo> using mysql-client from command line i get: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[01:51] <farous> NoWhereMan[away] : cool
[01:52] <[olli] > Ng: do you know any program which does the export automatically?
[01:52] <BockBilbo> gnomefreak, its the error no 2002: cant connect to local mysql server through socket
[01:53] <BockBilbo> oh.. i see..
[01:53] <Ng> [olli] : I can't think of any PIMs that export data
[01:53] <mateon> BockBilbo: well does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist?
[01:54] <[olli] > Ng: okay. thanks.
[01:54] <BockBilbo> mateon, i was about to check that and also see its permissions
[01:55] <BockBilbo> bing
[01:55] <BockBilbo> bingo
[01:55] <BockBilbo> it exists, but it doesnt have right to the average user
[01:56] <twinoatl> hi
[01:56] <zug> hi
[01:56] <twinoatl> I got problems with daily generated isos
[01:56] <twinoatl> can I write bug reports ? Where ? In the launchpad ?
[01:57] <BockBilbo> ive changed the permissions... but dont know if this solution will be kept after rebooting
[01:57] <BockBilbo> brb
[01:57] <brenner> twinoatl: apps > sys tools > bug report
[01:59] <shanonx> Hey guys got an install question, when I try to install Ubuntu, it tells me it cannot find my network adapter, which is build onboard my MotherBoard... what must I do so that it can recognize it?
[01:59] <[olli] > Ng: do you know why i can't find evolution-addressbook-export in ubuntu?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> shanonx: do you know what make/model the nic card is?
[02:02] <shanonx> just a sec i can tell you
[02:03] <shanonx> gnomefreak: Its an Intel 82573V
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ok give me a sec
[02:04] <shanonx> sure thing
[02:04] <morphix> :(
[02:04] <gnomefreak> im assuming the w means wireless?
[02:05] <shanonx> no its a V not a W :)
[02:05] <shanonx> its not a wireless card.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:08] <gnomefreak> shanonx: when installing does it let you continue the install without detecting the nic?
[02:08] <shanonx> gnomefreak: It gave me the option to, but I didn'
[02:08] <shanonx> didn't try it... I will try that first and see if I can get it working
[02:09] <thegladiator> can someone please repeat that command to install the industrial engine ?
[02:09] <thegladiator> i did a copy paste but not working
[02:09] <thegladiator>  am using iirc atm
[02:09] <neosc> guys.. the sweet guys a t ubuntu sent me the latest version of their cds (5.10).. i have 5.04 currently installed.. it it woth the upgrade to reinstall the whole thing??
[02:09] <neosc> is it worth*
[02:10] <gnomefreak> shanonx: next time continue get it installed you might just have to activate the nic. i only see 3 intel cards here im not sure what your chipset is here ill give you the link incase you find the chipset
[02:10] <thegladiator> is there anyone who can scroll back and tell me what the command was to instal gtk industrial engine ?
[02:10] <damian_> how do i link to files i used to know i dont fuly understand now something to do with path$
[02:10] <_JuDgEn_> hi, how do i alter the screen resolution of x from console?
[02:10] <_jason> thegladiator: thegladiator: aptitude install gtk2-engines-industrial
[02:10] <gnomefreak> shanonx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[02:10] <IdleOne> neosc:  I think it it is
[02:10] <thegladiator> thanks jason
[02:10] <neosc> yes.?? what are the new things?
[02:10] <BockBilbo> im back
[02:10] <shanonx> gnomefreak: ok, thanks for your help!
[02:10] <BockBilbo> :S
[02:10] <motionblur> hi people, I need some help installing a geforce 2 GTS under ubuntu... I've followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but it doesn't work...
[02:11] <damian_>   /usr/local/lib/jack
[02:11] <damian_>  is what i need my programs to find corrently there looking in /usr/lib i think
[02:11] <gnomefreak> there was also a gtk-engines-industrial
[02:11] <_JuDgEn_> hi, how do i alter the screen resolution of x from console?
[02:11] <brenner> _JuDgEn_: let me guess, you want more screen space in terminal mode
[02:12] <_JuDgEn_> brenner nah
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _JuDgEn_ about fixres
[02:12] <thegladiator> so what command for the whole thing ? gnomefreak
[02:12] <neosc> ideleone.. guys.. is ti worth the upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10??? what r the new features?
[02:12] <_JuDgEn_> x wont start unless i reconfigure
[02:12] <gnomefreak> neosc: yes its worth the upgrade
[02:12] <damian_> how do i link to files i used to know i dont fuly understand now something to do with path$
[02:12] <damian_>   /usr/local/lib/jack
[02:12] <damian_>  is what i need my programs to find corrently there looking in /usr/lib i think
[02:13] <damian_> !path
[02:13] <ubotu> damian_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:13] <damian_> !path$
[02:13] <ubotu> damian_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:13] <neosc> gnomefreak :the new features??
[02:13] <sivang> Seveas: do you have any idea maybe about my sounds problem?
[02:13] <motionblur> hi people, I need some help installing a geforce 2 GTS under ubuntu... I've followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but it doesn't work...
[02:13] <_jason> damian_: what are you trying to do?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> neosc: packages.ubuntu.com  for a complete list of packages
[02:14] <neosc> ah.. thanks
[02:15] <gnomefreak> neosc: a big feature is that 5.04 will not be supported with updates ina  few months
[02:15] <damian_> basically i need lmms and muse to find my newest version of jack whitch is in /usr/local/lib/jack. Instead they look in /usr/lib and detect an old version and dont run
[02:16] !lilo:*! Updated http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic (the policy page section on offtopic activity on freenode) just to make the wording more emphatically clear.... changed "...antisocial behavior, including..." to "...antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to)..."
[02:16] !lilo:*! (this is not a substantive policy change, just highlighting the existing wording)
[02:16] <_jason> damian_: did you install these things with the package manager or are they not available?
[02:17] <damian_> should the newest version of jack 0.100.0 be available?
[02:17] <damian_> i couldnt find it and so installed it from source
[02:18] <_jason> damian_: so what did you do? make install?
[02:18] <damian_> configure, make, make install
[02:18] <damian_> normal
[02:18] <damian_> and everything wont fine
[02:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell damian_ about checkinstall
[02:19] <gnomefreak> i have jack in repos not sure what version tho
[02:19] <_jason> damian_: in the future, checkinstall will make your life easier
[02:19] <_jason> damian_: for your problem you should just be able to make symlinks, just don't overwrite anything that is managed by the package manager
[02:21] <bonez> hey .. just wanted to know is there a special repository with kernel sources .. i have multiverse en universe open but cant apt kernel-source 2.6.12-10
[02:21] <port7> anyone any idea why i am getting a timeout when i try to recv-key for Sevas' repository?
[02:21] <port7> but i can get other keys fine from the same key server
[02:21] <_Felix> hello
[02:21] <gnomefreak> kernel sources are in the src repos arnt they?
[02:22] <thegladiator> brenner, i installed gothic blue theme , my desktop doesnt have the black color , I tried a restart also...oddly I cant see my cursr also when I type into xchat
[02:22] <damian_> symlinks thats it sorry ahvent used linux for 2 years how do i do that
[02:22] <gnomefreak> ln -s
[02:22] <damian_> set path$= something like that yeah
[02:22] <_jason> damian_: ln -s destination name
[02:22] <brenner> thegladiator: how'd you install it?
[02:22] <j_element> any one familiar with ddos packets here ?
[02:23] <damian_> destination is the file ro the directory?
[02:23] <thegladiator> opened theme manager , pasted it and it installed
[02:23] <thegladiator> it was a controls theme
[02:23] <farous> thegladiator: check this theme finally was able to upload it not as gothic or dark as you wana though http://www.ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1979&catid=newimages
[02:23] <bonez> gnomefreak, i have -> deb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse
[02:23] <bonez>  in my sources.list
[02:23] <_jason> damian_: actually, why is the old version still there?  do you need it?
[02:24] <thegladiator> yep farous
[02:24] <thegladiator> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8775
[02:24] <brenner> thegladiator: correct....what's wrong exactly?
[02:24] <thegladiator> just see the screen shot
[02:24] <damian_> im not sure going to keepp it there probably for dependencies why isnt the other version available?
[02:25] <stjepan> hello
[02:25] <thegladiator> good one farous
[02:25] <stjepan> whats ubuntu's kde dir? (in slackware it is /opt/kde)
[02:25] <thegladiator> brenner, in that screenshot I nothing is black eerything is white
[02:25] <_Felix> Stjepande
[02:25] <_Felix> hrvat?
[02:26] <damian_> no when i try to uninstall it wants to remove mplayer xmms and others
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> stjepan: where is it installed? Kubuntu might be able to tell you, fraid i don't know
[02:26] <brenner> thegladiator: weird
[02:27] <thegladiator> yeah really weird
[02:27] <brenner> thegladiator: if you switch control themes, does it change?
[02:27] <skenmy> Hi All :) I'm having a lot of trouble copying data from a DVD to my home directory. It hangs for about 5 minutes on random files, then gives an I/O Error and asks to Skip, Cancel, or Retry. The files are not always the same. Any ideas on how I can get this data onto my HDD?
[02:27] <_jason> damian_: well then I'd look at the specific programs, muse I think you said, and see how you can tell them  to go straight for the other libs.  You're gonna have a weird setup
[02:27] <farous> i hate copyinf from eterm :(((((
[02:27] <thegladiator> I had theme prolems ever since I installed few theme from art manager!
[02:27] <thegladiator> ever sinc some themes doesnt seem to have effect  or so i feel
[02:27] <thegladiator> it does change
[02:28] <brenner> so you've had problems  iwth other themes too?
[02:28] <thegladiator> like when I chose dark red theme it becomes dark
[02:28] <thegladiator> i am not sure
[02:28] <thegladiator> i felt that themes changed colors more than they used after I did a few things with art manager by installing few things
[02:29] <thegladiator> less i.e
[02:29] <thegladiator> each theme makes some change but not the desired effect . few themes have this problem
[02:29] <thegladiator> all this after I installed art managr and installed few Application themes
[02:29] <brenner> so you had problems before gothic and blue?
[02:29] <thegladiator> like H20 , industrial
[02:29] <brenner> i.e. it wasn't my fault? :-/
[02:29] <bonez> anyone have a idea in what repo the kernelsources are???
[02:30] <thegladiator> I dont know really :>
[02:30] <damian_> nah thanks that fixed my problem
[02:30] <thegladiator> this seems to prove that
[02:30] <brenner> i've never used art mgr, so i can't really help you there
[02:30] <gnomefreak> bonez: you may have to enable the src repos
[02:30] <thegladiator> ok np :)
[02:30] <bonez> to my knowledge the are enabled
[02:30] <damian_> i will delete the ones i installed and upgrade once there available
[02:30] <thegladiator> i think some stupid problem that I may never figure out
[02:30] <skenmy> Anyone? It's starting to annoy me :P
[02:30] <bonez> i find a few kernel sources .. uptil 2.6.11
[02:30] <brenner> thegladiator: try clicking on the human theme, and then going through details and selecting gothic
[02:30] <bonez> put i need 2.6.12
[02:30] <bonez> but*
[02:30] <brenner> thegladiator: that's what i'm using
[02:31] <pepsi> i have linux-source-2.6.12 in my listing
[02:31] <bonez> hmm
[02:31] <thegladiator> let me see that
[02:31] <thegladiator> nah same thing actually
[02:31] <brenner> no change?
[02:32] <thegladiator> no change
[02:32] <thegladiator> just the same sort of effect
[02:32] <thegladiator> I think I botched up something actually somewhere
[02:32] <brenner> well i don't know to be honest.
[02:32] <bonez> pepsi, hey  you are correct . i did a apt-cache search for kernel-source.. not linux source .. (thats what happens if you follow a tutorial to the teeth)
[02:32] <thegladiator> its okay
[02:32] <thegladiator> maybe in my next install
[02:32] <pepsi> hrm
[02:32] <brenner> thegladiator: post a forum topic on it maybe
[02:33] <thegladiator> yesI shall do that
[02:33] <pepsi> interesting they changed the name
[02:34] <pepsi> but as i remember it was annoying having to look for "linux-" and "kernel-"
[02:34] <skenmy> Could anyone possibly help with my problem?
[02:34] <pepsi> so now its all under linux-
[02:34] <Xamusk> bonez: the package names changed since 2.6.something
[02:34] <bonez> aah ok .. well its good to know that
[02:34] <bonez> guess its since 2.6.11
[02:35] <IdleOne> skenmy:  what's the problem
[02:35] <skenmy> Hi IdleOne
[02:35] <skenmy> I'm having a lot of trouble copying data from a DVD to my home directory. It hangs for about 5 minutes on random files, then gives an I/O Error and asks to Skip, Cancel, or Retry. The files are not always the same. Any ideas on how I can get this data onto my HDD?
[02:35] <ardchoille> How do I install the KDE desktop environment in Ubuntu? Is there a single meta package that pulls in everything else?
[02:35] <skenmy> If it makes any difference, it is a DVD-RW
[02:35] <pepsi> kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <skenmy> ardchoille, check out kubuntu
[02:36] <IdleOne> ardchoille: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <colm> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <ardchoille> skenmy, IdleOne: thank you.
[02:36] <ardchoille> :)
[02:36] <farous> ardchoille: better sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <IdleOne> skenmy:  sorry dude I dont know what would cause that
[02:37] <farous> ardchoille: so if you do not like it you can use the same command to remove it by sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <wdh> skenmy, I/O errors are not good..  i guess you should check the DVD-RW for errors..
[02:37] <ardchoille> farous: cool, that does make it much easier
[02:37] <farous> :)
[02:37] <colm> farous, is aptitude purge better that apt-get remove?
[02:38] <farous> colm: for meta packages with apt-get remove you need to remove each dependent package by hand
[02:38] <Xamusk> colm: aptitude purge == apt-get remove --purge
[02:38] <farous> colm: aptitude take care of that automatically
[02:38] <colm> cool, didn't know that.  he won't remove it anyway!  but it's good to know hx
[02:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi...i need info about a package release...
[02:38] <farous> colm: so aptitude will remove the packages and the automatically installed dependencies if not used by other packages
[02:39] <farous> colm: :)
[02:39] <wdh> farous, apt-get remove does that also.. the 'purge' part just removes all the configuration files as well
[02:39] <farous> wdh:  not automatically installed depnedent packages
[02:40] <farous> wdh try them both
[02:40] <wdh> farous, you are right.. i misread what you typed :)
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> farous:  there are a command in apt to show packages that must be updated?
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> like synaptic or aptitude does...
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> i mean..in command-line...
[02:40] <skenmy> wdh -> what confuses me is that I can access the data on the DVD-RW
[02:40] <skenmy> just cant copy it off
[02:40] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, "sudo apt-get upgrade -s"
[02:40] <colm> folks, short of dapper dist-upgrade, what's the easiest way to get the latest (i.e. including CYMK support) version of Krita installed on Breezy?
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice... 8)
[02:41] <steve60> anyone know of an application that will stream live tv like winamp for windows?
[02:41] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, where 's' stands for 'simulate'
[02:41] <farous> Aragorn_Guardian: i mainly use aptitude so sorry do not know check this site though about deb package management http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need info about the porstgres ckage of ubuntu...
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> :(
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> farous:  ok...
[02:41] <vdrab> hello #ubuntu. A quick question: can I have ubuntu in different languages per user, on the same system? how would I set this up?
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  thanks... is that!
[02:42] <farous> you will fnd it quite helpfull :)
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> farous:  yeah...i like it...the tools are amazing...
[02:42] <farous> and it sums it all up :)
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> i am doing a shell script with that info...
[02:43] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, "apt-cache show postgresql"  will give you some info :)
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  i need know why it is not upgraded... :(...is getting too old...
[02:44] <Crazy|One> hi all
[02:44] <_Felix> hi crazy one
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  postgres in ubuntu is in 7.4.7...is beeing unusefull.....stable versionb from postgres is 8.1
[02:44] <steve60> anyone know of an application that will stream live tv like winamp for windows?
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  need know why and what can I do...
[02:45] <colm> vdrab, System Menu > Language Selector
[02:45] <Crazy|One> I have Windows XP Pro, and installed Ubuntu as a virtual machine on vmware. the vm bridge networking dont seem to work as I cant access the net with ubuntu, any ideas what could be up?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> steve60: xmms i think
[02:45] <Xamusk> steve60: vls should do it
[02:45] <steve60> gnomefreak, i got streamtuner is there an app like this but for tv though
[02:46] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, ubuntu releases a new version every six months.. after a release it doesnt take any non-securityrelated updates.. so new versions of packages go into the next version of ubuntu..
[02:46] <vdrab> col: yes, I have all the necessary languages installed, but it seems changing the default is system-wide... I want user X to have language A and user Y to have language B
[02:46] <gnomefreak> tv i dont know about :(
[02:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  I am with ubuntu 5.04 here
[02:46] <IdleOne> colm:  user language is kept in the user profile right? so i would think that each user could have is own language setup :/ but Im not sure
[02:46] <farous> wdh just to add unless it is ported in the backports project :)
[02:46] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, there seems to be a postgresql-8.0 package though :)
[02:46] <wdh> so install that
[02:47] <Crazy|One> anybody?
[02:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice... 8)....gonna see
[02:47] <sks> Hi! I'm on Ubuntu 5.10. I wish to change the host name of my computer. I did a "hostname <myhostname>" as well as I made an entry in /etc/network/interfaces. I also verified that the GUI System->Admin-> Networking show the host name correctly. I have rebooted my computer. But the netowrk does not detect the new name. It detects the old name. What have I missed ?
[02:47] <colm> vdrab, I've not actually tried this, but the languge _should_ be a user selection.  What is going wrong?
[02:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh: what sources can i safelly put here in synaptic to get those packages, more recents
[02:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> in sources.list
[02:47] <vdrab> colm: I probably don't know where to look.
[02:48] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, none.. just use main, universe and multiverse..
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Aragorn_Guardian about easysource
[02:48] <steve60> how do i install a .run file
[02:48] <vdrab> keep running into admin permission troubles, I don't want to make the new user a su, but can't seem to change the language otherwise...
[02:48] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, is there a specific reason why you prefer 8.1 over 8.0.3?
[02:48] <colm> vdrab - just tested it.  It works ok on Breezy w/ Gnome.  Second user logged in set to french.  This user = english.  Login Screen/new users = english
[02:48] <gnomefreak> steve60: sh file.run
[02:49] <steve60> gnomefreak, thx
[02:49] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes...things in postgres...:/ new relases...maybe 8.0 will be nice...
[02:49] <vdrab> colm: oh really.. ? : /  where do you set language for *this* user?
[02:49] <Crazy|One> can somebody tell me what I should check to see why my ubuntu os cannot access the net pls
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> i have 7.4 here... 8.0 may works...gonna read about
[02:49] <steve60> im just downloading ID's free FPS game
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> well...nice...
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  thanks by help
[02:49] <colm> vdrab, System Menu > Language Selector
[02:50] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, just install 8.0 :) you probably wont miss a thing..
[02:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  in true....most recents versions are a great adventure...but i really prefer that the comunity make alll tests needed before install in a production machine...
[02:51] <vdrab> colm: I have english and japanese installed there, but I can't see where to assign which language to which user
[02:51] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, just installing a new version because it's 'new', is a good way to get your system unstable :)
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  yes...i think will be nice.. 8)
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  yeah...i know...hehehehe
[02:51] <vdrab> it only says "languages available to people on this system"
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> thats why i dont compile nothing more..hehehehe
[02:51] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, it'll probably be included into ubuntu 6.04 once it's released (april)
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> niiiiiice
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> !!!!
[02:51] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:52] <adub> im trying to get airsnort to log to a file does anyone have any recommendations on this like when i save a file or log to a file i open it back up it has no data??
[02:52] <vdrab> colm: so, I want to keep the default english, but then where does the japanese go?
[02:52] <Aragorn_Guardian> new release...i really forgot...hehehehe
[02:52] <Aragorn_Guardian> this release cicle is amazing...hehehehe
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  well...thanks again...gonna read about...thanks a lot!
[02:53] <gnomefreak> dapper will have version 8.1
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> gnomefreak:  nice...
[02:54] <mzuverink> can someone recommend a good samba howto for ubuntu?
[02:54] <IdleOne> !samba
[02:54] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:55] <mzuverink> Tahnks
[02:55] <IdleOne> np
[02:56] <bonez> question .. is it possible to have reiser and ext3 on a system i currently have a full ext3 setup but i am going to build a lvm on raid and i heard that reiser is better for suck a setup (online resizing)
[02:56] <bonez> such*
[02:57] <petr> how to install single font seperately?
[02:57] <wdh> bonez, is it.. i think the spellingerror you made was actually right :P reiser can be quite good to suck up a system when resizing..
[02:57] <ccooke> bonez: I'd advise against using reiserfs unless you have regular backups. It's a very fast filesystem, but it's *much* more likely to develop corruption and the recovery tools are poor.
[02:57] <ccooke> It's *excellent* for a cheap news filesystem, though.
[02:57] <wdh> bonez, but yes.. you can use as many filesystems as you wish..
[02:58] <petr> installing a single font help
[02:58] <jasonr_> ubotu: tell petr about fonts
[02:58] <bonez> hmm so the overall consensus is no reiser ..
[02:58] <vdrab> colm: well, thanks for trying.
[02:59] <ccooke> bonez: See if it meets your needs first. I'd just advise against trusting it for, say, root or important files.
[02:59] <ccooke> again, if you have backups of everything...
[02:59] <petr> jasonr:
[02:59] <petr> i know but its confusing
[02:59] <jasonr_> petr: what kind of font is it
[02:59] <elkbuntu> bonez, they're just slapping a nice big "handle with care" sticker on it for you ;)
[02:59] <petr> i wana instal 1 font
[03:00] <petr> jasonr: ttf file
[03:00] <ccooke> bonez: (For instance, I just lost a week of my time recovering a reiserfs filesystem for work - ended up having to move an 800 gig filesystem image to a different computer, compile later reiserfs tools and then wait three days for the fsck to finish)
[03:00] <jbroome> ouch
[03:01] <bonez> root is on ext3 (the raid setup is a TB raid 5 ) .. i red somewhere that reiser as a filesystem also uses less space (?)
[03:01] <bonez> hmm
[03:01] <bonez> ok.......
[03:01] <tane_> someone have
[03:01] <petr> jasonr_:
[03:01] <ccooke> bonez: it uses less space for some workloads.
[03:01] <bonez> well ccooke that got me sold ..ext3 it is .. then i'll just have to umount the fs to resize with lvm
[03:02] <tane_> someone have probles when install ubuntu over windows xp and it takes about 2minutes to grub start
[03:02] <petr> jasonr_: its a .ttf file true type font
[03:02] <jasonr_> petr: just put it in ~/.fonts then
[03:02] <elkbuntu> tane_, what do you mean? you have xp and ubuntu dual booting, and grub takes 2 minutes to time out and send you to your last booted system?
[03:03] <adub> im trying to save capture session in libpcap format how would i do this??
[03:04] <M_A_K> I have a wifi router at home and work.  How do I tell ubuntu (using kde) to use whichever connection is available? I currently have to go into the networking settings and change it manually.
[03:04] <tane_> elkbuntu: ye...when i poweron and it says GRUB...it takes about 2 minutes until choise of OS:s come on screen
[03:05] <elkbuntu> tane so, for grub to even show up?
[03:05] <tane_> i have heart that some of debian users have same problems
[03:05] <petr> jasonr_:
[03:05] <tane_> elkbuntu: ehe...haha....i fixed it
[03:06] <tane_> haha
[03:06] <damian_> what does this mean
[03:06] <petr> how to know i have installed it or not corectly?
[03:06] <damian_> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[03:06] <elkbuntu> tane_, i'm inclined to suggest to you to make a post on the......forum... how?
[03:06] <elkbuntu> tane_, how did you fix it
[03:06] <gnomefreak> is codeweaver the "free" version of dreamweaver?
[03:06] <jasonr_> petr: open a program and try to use it I guess
[03:06] <tane_> hmmh...im not sure....i partitioned manually and then it works
[03:06] <gnomefreak> damian_: did you install g++?
[03:06] <tane_> meaby thats the reason
[03:06] <jasonr_> damian_: it means you need to install build-essential package
[03:06] <damian_> yes
[03:06] <tane_> first i used automatic partition for free space
[03:07] <damian_> oh
[03:07] <damian_> thats rihgt
[03:07] <elkbuntu> tane_,  some things are best done manually ;)
[03:07] <petr> jasonr_: is ther a way to find which are the installed fonts in my system?
[03:07] <tane_> i know...but i just tried automatic partition and showd up that sucks :D
[03:08] <iBalo> especially when the SILLY ubuntu auto-partitioner drops in ... >:-)
[03:08] <tane_> elkbuntu: have u used ubuntu long ?
[03:08] <elkbuntu> hmm... about 8 months
[03:08] <damian_> anyone here used lmms
[03:08] <tane_> i just installed it yeasterday...before i used debian
[03:09] <jasonr_> petr: press ctrl+l in nautilus and type 'fonts:///'
[03:09] <elkbuntu> i've never used pure debian. is it much different?
[03:09] <aldren> hi all, anyone knows a fast oficial repository? :)
[03:10] <tane_> elkbuntu: hmmmh...installation is much more complicated and you have to take time to configure all systems to work
[03:10] <iBalo> Is there a quick fix for the frequently hanging gnome-splash in Breezy? It's not a lockup, goes away when one clicks on it, but it's annoying
[03:10] <tane_> ubuntu is cool choise for beginners too
[03:10] <bonez> ccooke,  you seem to know your filesystems... JFS how does that one compare to the rest?
[03:10] <elkbuntu> tane_, that i agree with wholly.. it's a very good newbie system
[03:10] <damian_>  Invalid configuration `with-vst': machine `with' not recognized
[03:10] <damian_> this meant it dosent recognise the with-vst option yeah
[03:11] <tane_> elkbuntu: ye i think so too...second best i think is SuSe
[03:11] <elkbuntu> tane_, btw which were you saying was more complicated? ubuntu or pure debian
[03:11] <petr> jasonr_: where is natilus. me hearing it for the first time.
[03:11] <damian_> thats a ./configure error
[03:11] <jasonr_> petr: it is the file namager
[03:11] <tane_> elkbuntu: debian is for pro users
[03:11] <tane_> u have to to everything yourself
[03:11] <gnomefreak> damian_:  is it -with or --with?
[03:11] <petr> jasonr_: ok
[03:11] <gnomefreak> most of the ones i did were --with
[03:11] <damian_> apparrently -with ill try tho
[03:12] <gnomefreak> damian_: ./configure --help might help
[03:12] <ccooke> bonez: it's fast, reputed to be good for large files...
[03:12] <elkbuntu> tane_, ah ok
[03:12] <elkbuntu> well peeps, i'm off to bed, cyas
[03:12] <ccooke> bonez: I've not personally used, it though. I believe it's not as mature *in linux* as, say, xfs
[03:13] <damian_> hecking build system type... Invalid configuration `-help': machine `' not recognized
[03:13] <damian_> configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub -help failed
[03:13] <M_A_K> Can anybody help a newbie figure out wireless networking problem?
[03:13] <petr> jasonr_: system >> preference >> file management . is this one u call natilus?
[03:13] <ccooke> bonez: oh! if you're using ext3, two things that you might find useful:
[03:14] <jasonr_> petr: applications menu > accessories > file browser
[03:14] <damian_> it says here but it errors
[03:14] <damian_> = If you want VST-support within LMMS, please pass
[03:14] <damian_>  =
[03:14] <damian_>  = --with-vst
[03:14] <ccooke> bonez: first, mounting use user_xattr (check mount(8) for how)
[03:15] <bonez> ccooke, average file size is around a gig  (just so ya know )
[03:15] <gnomefreak> damian_: and your typing ./configure --with-vst?
[03:15] <damian_> yes
[03:15] <damian_> never mind i fixed it
[03:15] <ideafix> are the kubuntu and ubuntu reps difrente ?
[03:15] <ccooke> bonez: second, dir_index - 'sudo tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/hda1' would turn on directory indexing, which will speed up access in directories with lots of files (assuming your filesystem is /dev/hda1, of course)
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ideafix: not really
[03:15] <damian_> they misspelt it
[03:15] <ccooke> bonez: right. JFS sounds like a definite option, then
[03:16] <ideafix> what do you mean not really ?
[03:16] <ccooke> bonez: I've heard no more horror stories about it than I've heard for XFS, which I've used a bit.
[03:16] <ideafix> no really you mean they are
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ideafix: same repos iirc but kubuntu does have a 3.5 repo for either ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:16] <ccooke> bonez: but it *is* explicitly designed to be good for big files.
[03:16] <ideafix> iirc ?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> iirc=if i remember correctly
[03:17] <petr> jasonr_: found the .fonts .but there my font is not there. wat 2 do?
[03:17] <bonez> ccooke, yea i have a few 100 m's and pictures here and there ..
[03:17] <ccooke> bonez: right.
[03:17] <ideafix> will ubunti become more like debian in the way you can distupgrade to the newest version ?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ideafix: the packages are the same for ubuntu and kubuntu so the repos should be same
[03:17] <damian_> hmm cool i have vst's working in linux
[03:18] <jasonr_> petr: you have to copy your font to /home/username/.fonts
[03:18] <ccooke> ideafix: what do you mean 'become' ?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ideafix: you can dist-upgrade
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ideafix: ubuntu and debian commands are same
[03:18] <ideafix> it wont break ?
[03:18] <ccooke> ideafix: well, as with debian, it'll depend what you dist-upgrade to.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ideafix: if you dist-upgrading to dapper you can count on it breaking
[03:18] <petr> jasonr_: can i copy just like copying in windows (drag and drop)?
[03:18] <bonez> ccooke, pff ..  let me ask you this way what would you use.. cus after making this disition i dont see myself finding a spare TB to change my fs to something else
[03:18] <jasonr_> petr: yes
[03:18] <ccooke> I would not, for instance, upgrade to dapper.
[03:19] <ccooke> bonez: hmm. To be honest, I trust ext3. It's very, very stable on linux.
[03:19] <ideafix> will this thing gona be looked into in the future ?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ideafix: what thing you can apt-get dist-upgrade all you want now
[03:19] <ccooke> bonez: Take a look at mke2fs(8)
[03:20] <ccooke> bonez: there are options to tailor it to large or small files.
[03:20] <gnomefreak> i just wouldnt upgrade to dapper
[03:20] <ideafix> ive just been told it will break
[03:20] <petr> jasonr_: "Error not a directory"
[03:20] <IdleOne> ideafix:  you need to be more specific. what do you think will break?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ideafix: dapper will break but if you are going from hoary to breezy you should be fine
[03:20] <MrZeroo00> hi
[03:21] <ccooke> ideafix: dapper isn't ready yet. Some work will be done on it to make dist-upgrade work when it's near release.
[03:21] <ideafix> so i can go from hoary to breezy and from breezy to dapper ?
[03:21] <ccooke> No.
[03:21] <ideafix> so dapper is still beta?
[03:21] <IdleOne> yes
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ideafix: yes you can but dont run dapper yet
[03:21] <ccooke> wwdapper isn't even beta, yet.
[03:21] <gnomefreak> alpha
[03:21] <ideafix> ok
[03:21] <Madpilot> ideafix: Dapper is still in development, it's not due for release for another 2 months
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> ive heard way too many 'upgrade' problems. :P i will just reinstall.. keeping my /home onits own hard drive.
[03:21] <ccooke> it's not actually gone to the preview release.
[03:21] <gnomefreak> dapper is gonna be beta end of marchish
[03:22] <IdleOne> alpha/pre-beta hehe
[03:22] <ccooke> Dr_Willis: I have two 'root' partitions here for almost-risk-free upgrading :-)
[03:22] <ideafix> A comes before B
[03:22] <ccooke> and a new home partition.
[03:22] <jasonr_> petr: make a directory in /home/username and call it '.fonts'
[03:22] <gnomefreak> alpha=greek for beginning :)
[03:23] <ideafix> in english biggining starts with b :)
[03:23] <IdleOne> beta + Greek For low maintenace fish :P
[03:23] <IdleOne> + should be =
[03:23] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:23] <ideafix> low maintenace fish ?
[03:23] <IdleOne> hahaha just a joke
[03:23] <gnomefreak> ideafix: if you want a stable system dont run dapper stick with breezy
[03:24] <ideafix> could you explaint that joke ?
[03:24] <IdleOne> beta is also a name for a type of fish
[03:24] <IdleOne> and they are very easy to take care of
[03:24] <kerrian> why am I tempted, now that I'm back into using Linux, to start learning Java programming...
[03:24] <IdleOne> you can forget to feed them for days and they dont die
[03:24] <gnomefreak> i love them :) they love to fight :)
[03:24] <petr> jasonr_:  mkdir .fonts
[03:24] <petr> mkdir: `.fonts' exists but is not a directory
[03:25] <BockBilbo> anyone here uses the network manager tool?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> mkdir ~/.fonts?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> Beta - the fish that dies.. and you dont realize it for a week...- because they were so sluggish anyway...
[03:25] <jasonr_> petr: rm ~/.fonts && mkdir ~/.fonts
[03:25] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  they are predators by nature but then again all beautiful things are e.g women
[03:25] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:26] <dempa> i got some advanced xorg.conf qustions, got a Nvidia 5700 vit 1xVGA, 1xDVI & 1xsvideo on it, got two crt monitors connected to the VGA & DVI connectors and seperate X sessions on each, now i want a third on the tv connected on the svideo port, is this even possible?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrrr
[03:26] <petr> jasonr_: ok done
[03:26] <ideafix> are cows predators ?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ideafix: yes to grass
[03:26] <IdleOne> lmfao
[03:27] <alejandro_> hi
[03:27] <IdleOne> are cows beautiful?
[03:27] <jasonr_> petr: okay, now just copy it in there
[03:27] <ideafix> yes
[03:27] <kerrian> for futurereference, I loce my PSP
[03:27] <kerrian> love
[03:27] <kerrian> play station portable, by the way
[03:27] <petr> jasonr_: ok
[03:27] <alejandro_> i need help please
[03:27] <ideafix> arent coes beutifull ?
[03:27] <ideafix> cows
[03:27] <IdleOne> I guess if you like cows yeah they are
[03:27] <kerrian> I am cow, hear me mo, i weight twice as much as you, and I look good on the barbeque
[03:28] <ideafix> they are prettyer then pigs :)
[03:28] <IdleOne> they make good milk and steaks so i like them for that
[03:28] <kerrian> yougurt, milk, cream cheese and butter comes from liquid out my udders, I am cow, I am cow, he me MOO-O
[03:28] <alejandro_> anibody speak spanish?
[03:28] <IdleOne> !es
[03:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:28] <IdleOne> alli alejandro
[03:28] <gnomefreak> alejandro_: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <SLSneak> I need some sort of multiplayer notepad for ubuntu...
[03:29] <cyblivious> has anyone installed xserver 7 in ubuntu breezy?
[03:29] <kerrian> I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, and out my muzzle when I belch!
[03:29] <alejandro_> hola
[03:29] <lemsx1> !xgl
[03:29] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:29] <gnomefreak> i hate dependencies :(
[03:29] <IdleOne> kerrian:  you have spent alot of time thinking about cows huh
[03:29] <kerrian> Oh the ozone layer's thinner for the outcome of my dinner, I am cow, I am cow, I've got GAS-s
[03:29] <ideafix> lol IdleOne
[03:29] <_mindspin> kerrian are you from wisconsin?
[03:29] <kerrian> I am cow, her I stand, far and wide across this land, and I am living everywhere
[03:29] <IdleOne> _mindspin:  lmao
[03:30] <tgah> anybody has got a personal site to showcase? I would like to build a personal site and i don't know how to start?
[03:30] <kerrian> from BC to Newfoundland, you can squeeze my tits by and, I am cow, I am cow, I AM COW-W
[03:30] <alejandro_> gnome freak
[03:30] <IdleOne> !html
[03:30] <kerrian> nope
[03:30] <alejandro_> me puedes ayudar
[03:30] <ideafix> claro qaue si
[03:30] <gnomefreak> huh?
[03:30] <alejandro_> es la 1a vez ke uso linux
[03:30] <kerrian> thats a song me and a bunch of my friends made up one night wandering home piss loaded drunk from the bars
[03:30] <ideafix> presopuesto que si
[03:30] <gnomefreak> this is english speaking room :(
[03:30] <cyblivious> has anyone installed xserver 7 in ubuntu breezy?
[03:31] <alejandro_> haw can i get in a spanish room
[03:31] <IdleOne> alejandro:  vas por #ubuntu-es usas /join #ubuntu-es
[03:31] <Madpilot> !es
[03:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:31] <gnomefreak> cyblivious: im thinking not to advisable to do that
[03:31] <kerrian> strange
[03:31] <gnomefreak> alejandro_: type /join #ubuntu-es
[03:31] <cyblivious> why?
[03:31] <kerrian> my clock is wrong
[03:31] <kerrian> its saying it's 7:30 am
[03:31] <gnomefreak> cyblivious: is it in the repos?
[03:31] <kerrian> when its actualy 11 am
[03:32] <IdleOne> kerrian:  perhaps it moved and didnt tell you lol
[03:32] <ccooke> kerrian: you made up that song?
[03:32] <cyblivious> not sure. just read about xserver 7 in its website and i like it's features
[03:32] <ideafix> thats de beuty of linux
[03:32] <kerrian> or I'm stuck in a time warp
[03:32] <ideafix> you never know what to expect next :)
[03:32] <kerrian> been awake for like... 29 hours messing about with Ubuntu
[03:32] <pusling> what kernel version is expected to be shipped with dapper ? and how hard would it be to backport it to breezy ?  (weird udev conflicts and others)
[03:32] <kerrian> me and 3 or 4 of my friends, yeah ccooke
[03:32] <ideafix> kerrian: start counting sheep instead of cows
[03:33] <gnomefreak> cyblivious: im thinking its not in breezy repos so i would stick with what you have. screwing with X is not advisable if you dont know what you are doing because without X people get lost
[03:33] <ccooke> kerrian: so, it has nothing to do with the Arrogant Worms, who recorded it a few years back and released it, huh?
[03:33] <TokenBad> in ubuntu would we rather use deb files or rpm files?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> pusling: 2.6.15.15
[03:33] <ccooke> kerrian: unless you're one of them?
[03:33] <kerrian> arrogant worms?
[03:33] <jasonr_> TokenBad: ubuntu debs
[03:33] <cyblivious> exactly the reason why i'm asking here first!! :)
[03:33] <gnomefreak> pusling: that is as of right now
[03:33] <_mindspin> T
[03:33] <TokenBad> jasonr_, shoot...
[03:33] <IdleOne> TokenBad:  you can try using rpm's but they wont work
[03:33] <kerrian> it was my friend Ryans idea
[03:33] <ideafix> hey theres a new virus from macs
[03:34] <gnomefreak> pusling: dapper isnt done so there is no telling what it will be in april
[03:34] <ideafix> kudus are in order :)
[03:34] <TokenBad> I was trying to get a shoutcast server working on ubuntu...
[03:34] <TokenBad> but having trouble
[03:34] <petr> jasonr_: not able to paste it
[03:34] <Nogimics> So is there a room for complete n00bs lol? or is anyone else here who has just installed ubuntu as thier first taste at Linux?
[03:34] <kerrian> he claimed he was getting off the top of his head, along with Jason... but they are room mates, so I don't know what they get on with
[03:34] <kerrian> gimmie a sec to check something
[03:34] <jasonr_> petr: why
[03:34] <ideafix> did you know there s anew virus for MACs ?
[03:34] <IdleOne> Nogimics:  this is the room
[03:34] <Nogimics> heh
[03:34] <pusling> gnomefreak: but one day, there might be a freeze of some kind ;)
[03:34] <petr> i donno wether its pasted or not
[03:34] <tgah> anybody has got a personal site to showcase? I would like to build a personal site and i don't know how to start?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> Nogimics: this is room for newbies and everyone else
[03:34] <kerrian> well I'l be a monkeys bare assed uncle
[03:34] <petr> i want to check weather the font is installed or not?
[03:34] <ccooke> kerrian: do a search on google for 'I am cow'
[03:35] <gnomefreak> pusling: they froze it once already there is another one comming up
[03:35] <cyblivious> just my first time using linux and ubuntu 2 days ago
[03:35] <jasonr_> petr: ls ~/.fonts, see if it is listed
[03:35] <cyblivious> but am getting the hang of it
[03:35] <kerrian> just looked it up on limewire
[03:35] <petr> jasonr_: ok pls wait
[03:35] <ccooke> heh
[03:35] <kerrian> I'm going to lay the smackdown on Ryan and Jason
[03:35] <ideafix> is raiser4 in ubuntu ?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> pusling: seeing as its not even hit beta yet things cana nd will change
[03:35] <ideafix> _jason: can kiss my ass
[03:36] <petr> jasonr_: the font is listed
[03:36] <kerrian> different jason
[03:36] <_jason> petr: then it is installed
[03:36] <petr> but the browser doesnt show the font
[03:36] <IdleOne> didnt know that _jason  liked bare asses monkeys
[03:36] <petr> jasonr_: the site not readable still
[03:36] <Kyo> how do I switch to kde? I just finished installling it
[03:36] <_jason> IdleOne: not this channel, do it in #idontcare or something
[03:36] <cyblivious> a quick question, when a new release of ubuntu is available, will i be able to upgrade easly? like from breezy?
[03:36] <kerrian> hmm
[03:36] <ideafix> kyo startkde
[03:36] <gnomefreak> Kyo: go to the login screen and click sessions and kde
[03:36] <pusling> gnomefreak: ..but what about backporting it? would it be difficult ?
[03:36] <damian_> why wouldnt this be working i do a sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.0
[03:36] <IdleOne> _jason:  do what ?
[03:37] <kerrian> is being awake for 29.6 hour a bad time to start learning java?
[03:37] <_jason> IdleOne: non-support chatter
[03:37] <gnomefreak> pusling: backporting what?
[03:37] <damian_> the program io am trying to get to run still cant find jack
[03:37] <ideafix> kerrian: could you get out of my face ?
[03:37] <IdleOne> _jason:  k sorry
[03:37] <pusling> gnomefreak: dapper kernel to breezy ...
[03:37] <ideafix> go to sleep
[03:37] <gnomefreak> pusling: backporting a kernel is never gonna happen
[03:37] <TokenBad> has anyone done shoutcast and using xmms plugin to serve music to it or have any other ways that can serve music to shoutcast server on ubuntu?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> kernel defines what version of ubuntu you are running
[03:38] <kerrian> schlaff ist fur dis svrechen
[03:38] <ideafix> whats podcast ?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> or linux for that matter
[03:38] <_jason> petr: what font are you trying to install?
[03:38] <ideafix> whats podcast ? is it making any inroads ?
[03:38] <cyblivious> so when i use breezy and dapper gets released, i'm stucked with breezy?
[03:38] <petr> its a hindi font
[03:38] <gnomefreak> cyblivious: no
[03:38] <ardchoille> are there any pitfalls with installing kubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu?
[03:38] <Madpilot> petr: have you seen the FontInstall wiki page?
[03:38] <_jason> cyblivious: no, you can upgrade
[03:38] <petr> ya i seen
[03:38] <damian_> why wouldnt this be working i do a sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.0
[03:38] <damian_> the program io am trying to get to run still cant find jack
[03:38] <cyblivious> tahnks
[03:39] <cyblivious> thanks
[03:39] <_jason> petr: close the program and open it again, if that doesn't work, logout and log back in
[03:39] <cyblivious> i've installed kubuntu-desktop to ubuntu
[03:39] <pusling> gnomefreak: I thought that versions defined what version you was runnig. On other distros you can update kernel - or update rest without updating kernel ...
[03:39] <cyblivious> and i liked what i saw
[03:39] <petr> ok _jason:  i ll try
[03:39] <ideafix> any one knows what podcasts are ?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  recheck that command.. i dont see what that would do anything at all..
[03:39] <ardchoille> cyblivious: did it cause any problems?
[03:39] <ideafix> do you need an ipod ?
[03:39] <IdleOne> ideafix:  try google
[03:39] <kerrian> question: is there a java compiling utility bundled with ubuntu? been looking through stuff and can't seem to find one
[03:39] <cyblivious> so far, no
[03:40] <ideafix> IdleOne: you dont know ?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> pusling: the kernel is realeased per version you can build own kernel but i dont think you will ever beable to build the 2.6.15.15 for breezy
[03:40] <Madpilot> ideafix: they're just sound files that you download & listen to - have a look at lugradio.org for a good Linux podcast
[03:40] <damian_> Dr_Willis: linking to a library
[03:40] <lemsx1> ideafix: this is not the right place for those questions
[03:40] <damian_> Dr_Willis: what am i meant to link to
[03:40] <IdleOne> yes i do but this is a ubuntu support channel as _jason  stated earlier :)
[03:40] <cyblivious> then changed to k7 kernels and ver81 nvidia drivers
[03:40] <ideafix> isnt it the sames has shoutcast ?
[03:40] <cyblivious> seems everythings goog
[03:40] <cyblivious> seems everythings good
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  i dont see that it linked to anything. seems like part of the command is missing.. or it got pasted wrong.
[03:41] <pusling> gnomefreak: what has happened since  breezy that might confligct ?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.0      - isent linking TO anything.
[03:41] <damian_> ln -s /usr/local/lib/jack/libjack.so.0
[03:41] <ale__> Ciao a tutti, chi mi pu aiutare a risolvere un problema con la scheda audio?
[03:41] <ideafix> is ubuntu reiser4 readdy ?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> ln -s foo foo2
[03:41] <_mindspin> ideafix: its just mp3s, they call it podcast and demand ther re invention of wheel
[03:41] <Madpilot> !it
[03:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:41] <gnomefreak> pusling: what do you mean conflict what are you trying to do
[03:41] <damian_> im confused simply ins there not being found waht do i do
[03:41] <damian_> lol
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> damian_,  learn how to use 'ln -s' :P
[03:41] <damian_> its there being found*
[03:41] <cyblivious> sorry but what's reiser4? isn't that the file system?
[03:42] <ideafix> yes
[03:42] <pusling> gnomefreak: getting a newer kernel on my breezy. have some unidentified not working pci-express thingies.
[03:42] <Madpilot> damian_: ln -s needs both a target & destination - you've only got target there
[03:42] <TomaszD> excuse me, I have a problem. after pairing a bluetooth device in gnome-phone-manager, it crashes. Start it up again and it crashes immidiately. This happens in Breezy and Dapper current (today's daily cd).
[03:42] <gnomefreak> pusling: you can not get the 2.6.15.15 for breezy the latest kernel for breeezy is 2.6.12
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> its odd that  its in   /lib/jack/libjack.so.0   also..   i cant recall ever seeing libs in a subdir.
[03:42] <gnomefreak> that is the latest kernel for breezy
[03:42] <damian_> oh that pasted wrong
[03:42] <ideafix> is ubuntu reiser4 fs readdy ?
[03:43] <damian_> acually speaking of
[03:43] <SLSneak> Say, my friend who recently installed Ubuntu 5.10 x64 on his computer is having a really wierd problem with sudo. It prompts for password, but the password is shown in clear text, and typing the correct password doesn't do anything...
[03:43] <damian_> where would jack usualy be installed
[03:43] <kerrian> well thats a first for me
[03:43] <gnomefreak> SLSneak: it wont type anything no stars nothing
[03:43] <ideafix> i think im gona isntall debian
[03:43] <kerrian> first tim I've installed a linux OS, and the kernel is actually up to date...
[03:43] <_mindspin> good idea
[03:43] <cyblivious> i thought reiser is already an option upon installing breezy
[03:43] <gnomefreak> SLSneak: type password and hit enter it will let you know if right or wrong
[03:44] <BockBilbo> anyone knows where to change the rights mysqld gives to /var/run/mysqld ?
[03:44] <BockBilbo> :S
[03:44] <ideafix> can i use ubuntu repos with debian ?
[03:44] <SLSneak> gnomefreak> It shows every character typed in clear text. Wrong password gives: "Wrong password". Correct password goes back to prompt
[03:44] <_mindspin> I wouldn't
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ideafix: its not advisable it can lead to a broken system
[03:44] <pusling> gnomefreak: I knowwhat kernel is with breezy right now. But I am thinking of backporting latest dapper kernel unless there would be massize udev conflicts or other stuff
[03:45] <_mindspin> lfs would be the best for you ideafix
[03:45] <cyblivious> pusling: how's the backporting?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> pusling: i think trying to backport it will give you more headaches than its worth
[03:45] <_mindspin> or gentoo
[03:45] <Enverex> Anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?
[03:45] <ideafix> i friend of mine tells me ubuntu is just debians test bed
[03:45] <m0wax> how to I list all the packages on my system that include the letters vnc
[03:45] <Madpilot> SLSneak: what happens with the gui admin tools? Try System --> Admin --> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ideafix: no thats what etch is
[03:46] <SLSneak> Madpilot, > Doesnt work either, entering the correct password just removes the prompt.
[03:46] <Madpilot> SLSneak: has someone added a root pw to Ubuntu?
[03:46] <ideafix> im gona have to install ubuntu because um baned from #debian
[03:46] <Enverex> Anyone?
[03:46] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey i have a remote FTP site that I have access to and it has many files witch i would like to DL... I'm using ftp by terminal and i can seem to DL any files... The files are in the NTFS format and im sure that that is the reason why i cant dl any of the files.. the files themselves are .tar.gz files (they are Ubuntu theme packages...)
[03:47] <foampeace> hellooo
[03:47] <stjepan> why does ubuntu has so poor tech. support (look at gentoo tech. support)
[03:47] <foampeace> anyone tried the northland game demo?
[03:47] <stjepan> ?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> pusling: i can promise a few things if you get 2.6.15 running on breezy you will have a hell of a time with it since all the depends have changed and with breezy repos you will not beable to get the depends
[03:47] <stjepan> and it is quite hard to hack ubuntu :(
[03:47] <ideafix> they seem very keen at enforcing premanent bans
[03:48] <SLSneak> Madpilot, >Can't say for sure. But it's a fresh install. I can't get a hold of him right now, I was just wondering whether it was a known problem and had a quick fix. He's set on reinstalling anyway...
[03:48] <ideafix> why is that stjepan  ?
[03:48] <_mindspin> "im gona have to install ubuntu because um baned from #debian" and did you learn anything by that ideafix ?
[03:48] <stjepan> ideafix: what?
[03:48] <foampeace> ideafix: who does permbans
[03:48] <ideafix> yes ive learned they are pricks
[03:48] <IdleOne> famous last words!
[03:48] <m0wax> how to I list all the packages on my system that include the letters vnc
[03:48] <Madpilot> SLSneak: reinstall if it's a new install anyway, be sure and do a standard install...
[03:49] <gnomefreak> m0wax: apt-cache search vnc
[03:49] <gnomefreak> you might want to pipe it less
[03:49] <SLSneak> Madpilot, will do, thx
[03:49] <_mindspin> ideafix: for your needs and level of expertise I would suggest you to get you Linux from Scratch
[03:49] <brenner> he might want to pipe through grep vnc more like it
[03:49] <Gyuszk> hi
[03:50] <ideafix> im going for gentoo
[03:50] <ideafix> its the same thing
[03:50] <damian_> am i doing this wrong
[03:50] <Enverex> Same as what?
[03:50] <damian_>  sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libjack.so.0 /lib
[03:50] <damian_> ln: `/lib/libjack.so.0': File exists
[03:50] <_jason> damian_: that's the old jack
[03:50] <stjepan> ideafix: why?
[03:50] <m0wax> gnomefreak:  Does that not only list the packages in the repositories that contain *vnc*?  I just want to list the ones that I have installed on my system
[03:50] <pusling> gnomefreak: what kind of depends are you talkin about ?
[03:50] <_mindspin> wether he chats here or in #gentoo
[03:50] <ideafix> the only problem is that im banned over there too
[03:50] <colm> Did the user who was wanting to set his session languge get an answer? , a client just phoned so I had to go afk for a while
[03:50] <_jason> damian_: that's why it is going to be difficult
[03:50] <stjepan> ideafix: why gentoo?
[03:51] <damian_> i gove up been trying for 2 hours
[03:51] <ideafix> i was talking to MindFreak
[03:51] <_mindspin> you are begging for bans don't you?
[03:51] <ideafix> i was talking to _mindspin
[03:51] <stjepan> ideafix: I have used gentoo for some time and I switched to ubuntu because it isnt very good to use gentoo as desktop
[03:51] <damian_> anyone know when the newest jack should be available
[03:51] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey i have a remote FTP site that I have access to and it has many files witch i would like to DL... I'm using ftp by terminal and i can seem to DL any files... The files are in the NTFS format and im sure that that is the reason why i cant dl any of the files.. the files themselves are .tar.gz files (they are Ubuntu theme packages...)
[03:51] <Enverex> stjepan, How come?
[03:51] <damian_> anyone know when the newest jack should be available in apt-get form :)
[03:51] <_jason> damian_: if it's in dapper make a request for a backport on the forums
[03:51] <ideafix> are you mad ? gentoo is what ever you make of it
[03:52] <ideafix> its all about choice
[03:52] <Madpilot> damian_: you're doing the symlink wrong - read "man ln", please
[03:52] <IdleOne> ideafix:  and we have all chosen ubuntu so how about you ask about ubuntu
[03:52] <damian_> i did explain to me then
[03:52] <damian_> its confusing me
[03:53] <ideafix>  IdleOne you tryed gentoo yet ?
[03:53] <ideafix> i bet you havent
[03:53] <IdleOne> ubotu:  kick ideafix
[03:53] <ubotu> IdleOne: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:53] <brenner> m0wax: just use synaptic
[03:53] <Enverex> Is there a Reiser channel anywhere?
[03:53] <IdleOne> Enverex:  try #reiser
[03:53] <IdleOne> dont know if it exists
[03:53] <damian_> madpilot
[03:54] <Madpilot> damian_: you need both a source & a destination to symlink something - you're saying 'link "this bit" over to "here"' to the computer...
[03:54] <ideafix> reiser is the best file system
[03:54] <Enverex> IdleOne, it doesn't
[03:54] <Enverex> ideafix, .... ok
[03:54] <ideafix> its endorsed by DARPA
[03:54] <IdleOne> Enverex:  sorry that was my best guess
[03:54] <user__> hello everybody
[03:54] <Enverex> Well, I'm crazy, I'm using Reiser4 on AMD64 :P
[03:54] <liquidindian> Using gnomebaker, should I have "Rock Ridge" selected if the DVD will be used on windows?
[03:54] <ideafix> ext3 sucks fsk
[03:55] <damian_> i have source is /usr/local/lib/ maybe in not exactly sure where this program is looking for jack because i am doing it right
[03:55] <Comet> anybody in here use an Azalea chipset onboard soundcard?
[03:55] <ideafix> i think this linux channels are venting to much missinformation
[03:55] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[03:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:55] <petr> jasonr_: its working after a restart
[03:55] <_jason> petr: k
[03:56] <damian_> hey this is apparently available anyway but its not showing up
[03:56] <petr> jasonr_: 10x
[03:56] <Comet> good lord
[03:56] <damian_> E: Couldn't find package libjack0.100.0-dev
[03:56] <damian_> can someone else try for me tell me if it is?
[03:56] <Comet> !gay
[03:57] <gnomefreak> damian_: run apt-cache search libjack all the ones that are avilable from repos
[03:57] <Enverex> Is there a filesystem channel on Freenode?
[03:57] <thomerz> hi, i have installed ubuntu with the "server" option, now i have no symbols, sinalising the lenght when i type in a password, how do i geht them back?
[03:57] <damian_> libjack0.80.0-0 - JACK Audio Connection Kit (libraries)
[03:57] <damian_> libjack0.80.0-dev - JACK Audio Connection Kit (development files)
[03:57] <IdleOne> Enverex:  type /list it will list all channels on the network
[03:57] <damian_> already did
[03:57] <_jason> thomerz: that's normal
[03:57] <Scarborough> how can I check if i have the latest version of java?
[03:57] <_jason> Scarborough: java -version
[03:57] <Enverex> IdleOne, XChat makes kinda a mess of that, so much so that it's unreadable
[03:57] <thomerz> _jason, hmmm but how do i get them?
[03:58] <Scarborough> _jason: and if I want to upgrade?
[03:58] <IdleOne> go to windows channel list
[03:58] <_jason> thomerz: no idea, that's so no one can see the length of your password
[03:58] <Enverex> Thanks
[03:58] <gnomefreak> damian_: than that is what you are able to get from repos you can more than likely get the tar.gz and compile it but is it worth it in long run
[03:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell Scarborough about java
[03:58] <IdleOne> np
[03:58] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey i have a remote FTP site that I have access to and it has many files witch i would like to DL... I'm using ftp by terminal and i can't seem to DL any files... The files are in the NTFS format and im sure that that is the reason why i cant dl any of the files.. the files themselves are .tar.gz files (they are Ubuntu theme packages...)
[03:59] <Madpilot> thomerz: in the command line, your password is never echoed, not even as a row of *******
[03:59] <pusling> what is the right dpkg --something file.deb  to check wether the depends can be installed ?
[03:59] <liquidindian> If it's only going to be used on windows, should I uncheck it to be sure?  Does it matter?
[03:59] <thomerz> hmm ok
[03:59] <meenfreem> hi people
[03:59] <Seba> files can't be in NTFS format... maybe on a NTFS filesystem
[03:59] <colm> [Ubuntu] Bug, the format doesn't matter
[03:59] <damian_> and brings me back to my initial problem i installed from source but it wont find it thaught apt-get would be easier isnt available yet
[04:00] <thomerz> what filemanager would you recommed for xfce? is there any alternative where i can type in the location, as in nautilus with ctrl-L ?
[04:00] <damian_> fuck it ibe given up for now just have to wait for these packages to become available and i can get this program working
[04:00] <meenfreem> have a quick question.... a pcmcia card wants to know where my linux source tree is.... where the heck is it?
[04:00] <Morfosomo> [Ubuntu] Bug, check the files have the right premisions
[04:00] <gnomefreak> damian_: jack 100 is not able to be gotten from apt in breezy
[04:00] <brenner> damian_: should've used checkinstall
[04:00] <Comet> i use an msi motherboard with an Azalea onboard soundcard.. for some reason, whenever I change the volume whether it be through the main volume control properties, or in a program like XMMS, it doesn't adjust the volume properly.. its either all the way up, blaring, or muted completed.. and divx movies have a faint crackling in the background.. any clues?
[04:01] <karlos> thomerz .. : Xfe and ROX are good
[04:01] <[Ubuntu] Bug> yes but why does the site not let me dl any folders??
[04:01] <_jason> damian_: are you compiling the new version of muse as well?  you can probably set where it looks for libs
[04:01] <damian_> will it be
[04:01] <brenner> thomerz: you can use nautilus in xfce, just run it with the --no-desktop option (or something like that)
[04:01] <Enverex> Does anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?
[04:01] <IdleOne> [Ubuntu] Bug:  you may not have the right privilidges to d/l
[04:01] <meenfreem> _jason, errr help needed...again :D
[04:01] <colm> [Ubuntu] Bug, download folders?  try mget to get multiple files?
[04:01] <karlos> thomerz: nautilus --no-desktop --browser
[04:02] <thomerz> karlos, i have rox, but i would like a field where i can type in the location
[04:02] <thomerz> and something smaler than nautilus
[04:02] <akambi> Hello Every body!
[04:02] <karlos> try Xfe
[04:02] <brenner> thomerz: mc maybe?
[04:02] <akambi> I wold like to install the last version of amsn on my Ubuntu distro.
[04:02] <akambi> Can anybody help me?
[04:03] <Niekie> Hi akambi.
[04:03] <IdleOne> !amsn
[04:03] <ubotu> amsn is, like, at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[04:03] <damian_> lmms: error while loading shared libraries: libjack.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:03] <Comet> can't amsn be found in the synaptic package manager?
[04:03] <Davey> just use GAIM
[04:03] <IdleOne> yeah I think so
[04:03] <damian_> someone tell me exactly what to type to make this find /usr/lib
[04:03] <Madpilot> akambi: if you've got a question, just ask it and someone should be able to help...
[04:03] <gnomefreak> Comet: yes it can be but depends what version you are looking for
[04:03] <Niekie> I think amsn is in the Universe repositories.
[04:04] <morphix> i totally forgot this.. but how do i mount a ntfs partition so all users can read it?
[04:04] <akambi> I already have the package of amsn0.95
[04:04] <morphix> just the command in shell
[04:04] <gnomefreak> !info amsn
[04:04] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[04:04] <Comet> the version that's easiest to install :)
[04:04] <Comet> hehe
[04:04] <karlos> damian_: try installing the jack dev packages/librarys
[04:04] <gnomefreak> its in universe :)
[04:04] <Niekie> Yup :)
[04:04] <damian_> hmm ive given up have them installed
[04:04] <akambi> but I dont know what to do with it
[04:05] <Comet> i can't quite figure out this sound issue.. the volume just blares at full volume, or muted completely.. nothing in between
[04:05] <colm> akambi: to install the latest versions of things you typically need to install from source
[04:05] <damian_> will the 0.100.0  vcersion ever be available?
[04:05] <damian_> will the 0.100.0  vcersion ever be available?
[04:05] <damian_> will the 0.100.0  version ever be available?
[04:05] <bliss> hello all
[04:05] <colm> akambi, if you're not sure how to do this, perhaps it's better to make do with the stable version provided in the repository
[04:05] <Seveas> hi bliss
[04:05] <akambi> colm: I ve find the last version of amsn on its homepage
[04:06] <bliss> hi Seveas
[04:06] <karlos> damian_ : get demudi and dual boot it with ubuntu and do your music with that .. that's what I do. I also have a machine running Planet CCRMA and I've started messing about with musix
[04:06] <colm> akambi, what benefit does the latest version give you that makes you think you need it?
[04:07] <akambi> colm: I was used to work with mandriva, thats why I dont know how to manage pacjkages with Ubuntu
[04:07] <bliss> root@40as# netstat -at | grep 32812
[04:07] <bliss> tcp        0      0 localhost:ssh           localhost:32812         ESTABLISHED
[04:07] <bliss> does this mean ssh is on port 32812 and not 22
[04:07] <akambi> colm: The latest version support webcam
[04:07] <IdleOne> akambi:  in terminal sudo apt-get install amsn
[04:07] <karlos> damian : Musix already uses the jack 1.0
[04:08] <Seveas> bliss, no, it means that the client connects from port 32812 to the server running on port ssh (22), try netstat -nat | grep 22
[04:08] <colm> akambi, ok that seems a worthy addition!  you'll have to read the instructions on the amsn website for installing
[04:08] <karlos> it's an argentinian distro
[04:08] <karlos> now comes in english too
[04:08] <akambi> Thanx IdleOne ! I ll try That one
[04:09] <varsendagger> hey, i have a commision to design a animation of a small room i need to be able to move around in this room, what should i use to accomplish this?
[04:09] <colm> akambi, that will install version 0.94, does that version have the feature you want?
[04:09] <karlos> varsendagger : blender
[04:09] <Seveas> varsendagger, blender?
[04:09] <Seveas> karlos, hehe 
[04:09] <damian_> probably the best idea
[04:09] <dylan_> How do I view my Windows Network in the Network Servers thingy?
[04:09] <colm> varsendagger, quake3?
[04:10] <akambi> IdleOne: I gett this error msg: couldnt find pakage
[04:10] <dylan_> Nothing shows up?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> i didnt think the amsn version in breezy had cam support but i dont use it so im not really sure
[04:10] <varsendagger> have you guys done anything like that?
[04:10] <akambi> whereas the package is in my home dir
[04:10] <Seveas> varsendagger, not me 
[04:10] <bliss> Seveas you see I cannnot connect to my computer from uotside for some reason only router firewall and that has port forward 22 tcp tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[04:10] <bliss> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:22            127.0.0.1:32812         ESTABLISHED
[04:10] <bliss> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:32812         127.0.0.1:22            ESTABLISHED
[04:10] <mopatop> hey guys anyone know if it's possible to netboot a breezy live CD? we need to rescue a machine with no floppy or CD, and we can't get at the HDD
[04:10] <[balayhashi] > How can I verify if my raid device is working?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> akambi: you need universe enabled
[04:10] <Seveas> bliss, please don't paste in here...
[04:10] <bliss> sorry
[04:10] <varsendagger> colm good idea
[04:10] <akambi> gnomefreak: How can I enable universe?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell akambi about universe
[04:11] <Seveas> bliss, netstat -tln, output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:11] <kyo> Whats the command to switch to KDE?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> akambi: read the pm ubotu sent you
[04:11] <gnomefreak> kyo: log out of gnome and click on sessions and choose kde
[04:11] <bliss> Seveas ok
[04:11] <colm> kyo, have you installed kde?
[04:11] <kyo> colm, yes
[04:11] <kyo> just now ...
[04:11] <kyo> do I need to restart?
[04:12] <colm> follow gnomefreak's advice
[04:12] <gnomefreak> is there something like dreamweavers for ubntu
[04:12] <damian_> musix?
[04:12] <karlos> gnomefreak : yes .. nvu
[04:12] <colm> gnomefreak, nvu - but it's poor in comparison
[04:12] <kyo> gnomefreak, I did but the KDE option didn't show up
[04:12] <akambi> thanx Ubotu
[04:12] <gnomefreak> kyo: run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:12] <gnomefreak> thanks guys ill look at it
[04:13] <pusling> gnomefreak: whatabout quanta or bluefish or something like that ?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> pusling: never used them but ty i will check on them
[04:13] <kyo> gnomefreak, if I do that it wants to install the whole thing over again (takes hours of my time ...) when I was installing a few files didn't install ...
[04:13] <karlos> damian_ : http://www.musix.org.ar/en/index.html
[04:13] <colm> quanta and bluefish are more HTML editors thoug...
[04:13] <varsendagger> what is musix?
[04:13] <karlos> a music distro
[04:14] <varsendagger> sorry i got it
[04:14] <karlos> like demudi
[04:14] <adub> does anyone know where kismet logs are kept
[04:14] <kyo> So whats the command line to start KDE? I'm curious
[04:14] <pusling> startkde ?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> kyo: if you did it the first time than it shouldnt do it again
[04:14] <kyo> hmm
[04:14] <gnomefreak> if it does it again than it wasnt installed the first time
[04:14] <kyo> fine let me apt-get again and lets see ...
[04:16] <kyo> gnomefreak, when I run sudo apt-get it says "0 upgrade, 135 newly installed" it takes up 319mbs... install? If I press yes, will it unpack or fetch the files from ubuntu server?
[04:16] <akambi> I ve enabled Universe and backport but I just find the amsn0.94 version and the cvs version.
[04:16] <adub> where does kismet keep log files?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> kyo: sudo apt-get what?
[04:17] <kyo> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <mandavi> did someone succeed with using gaijm in combination with a talk.google account?
[04:17] <IdleOne> adub: /kismet/logs  ?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> kyo: that tells me its not installed
[04:17] <bliss> Seveas done as suggested to bastebin
[04:17] <gnomefreak> kyo: it will grab the files from server first than unpack and install them
[04:17] <akambi> Can't I install a package I ve download from the web, without using repositories?
[04:18] <Adri2000> akambi: yes you can
[04:18] <kyo> But I spent 4 hours downloading it ...
[04:18] <gnomefreak> akambi: depends what type of file it is
[04:18] <Adri2000> akambi: sudo dpkg -i the_package.deb
[04:18] <kyo> I think I aborted before it can finish installing or something
[04:18] <kyo> but there was an error ...
[04:18] <adub> idleone thank i found it /var/logs/kismet
[04:18] <IdleOne> there you go :)
[04:18] <akambi> Thanx Adri2000
[04:18] <gnomefreak> kyo: they might be downloaded already than
[04:18] <kyo> gnomefreak, yes thats what I think it is ...
[04:19] <kyo> gnomefreak, so whats the command line to switch to kde?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> kyo: but they are not installed
[04:19] <kyo> I see
[04:19] <gnomefreak> run it again and should install them unless you get more errors
[04:19] <kyo> So instead of apt-get install what command do I use
[04:19] <kyo> Hmm
[04:19] <gnomefreak> kyo: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <Linuxchips> hello....i have a question about acpi_fakekey? Can somebody help me, please.
[04:19] <Adri2000> !ask
[04:20] <kyo> my bad ... I see its just installing files that it missed previously, not the whole thing
[04:20] <gnomefreak> !+ask
[04:20] <ubotu> [ask]  just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:20] <IdleOne> kyo if the packages are on your system apt-get install package.name will install the
[04:20] <Adri2000> :)
[04:20] <IdleOne> them *
[04:20] <Linuxchips> in acpi_fakekey i have only aliases. where is the real code?
[04:20] <mopatop> hey guys anyone know if it's possible to netboot a breezy live CD? we need to rescue a machine with no floppy or CD, and we can't get at the HDD
[04:20] <IdleOne> !netboot
[04:20] <ubotu> netboot is, like, totally, a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[04:21] <Linuxchips> @Adri2000 do you know what I mean?
[04:22] <Adri2000> no sorry Linuxchips i don't know
[04:22] <petr> is there a way to show a blinking icon similar to winxp when i get connected to the net?
[04:23] <petr> i want to know when internet is used and when internet is not used
[04:23] <Seveas> petr, add the network monitor to your panel
[04:23] <MrKip> little question what is a descent tool for rar file support in ubuntu 64
[04:23] <Adri2000> petr: maybe a gnome applet ? network monitor
[04:23] <mopatop> IdleOne: I don't want to do an install though, I need to boot a live CD
[04:23] <petr> hi how to add those things
[04:23] <Linuxchips> is anybody out there who can tell me where i`ll found the "real code" behind a fakekey????
[04:23] <Adri2000> petr: right click > add
[04:24] <Protex> Guys, how do I register my nickname in here? The bot thingy is telling me too, =o.
[04:24] <petr> gr8
[04:25] <Adri2000> Protex: on freenode ? /msg nickserv help register
[04:25] <Protex> thank you!
[04:26] <MrKip> does anyone know if unrar (or something like it) exists in 64 bits
[04:26] <Protex> Nothing in the repos?
[04:26] <IdleOne> mopatop:  sorry but I dont know how to netboot a livecd
[04:26] <Linuxchips> join #ubuntu-de
[04:27] <vignesh> hi
[04:27] <mopatop> IdleOne: okay cheers
[04:27] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey, I am using FTP from terminal and connect to the remote site fine and i can see all my files... But when I try to DL the files using 'mget' it asks me to name the remote file (i do) and the local file to save the info (i do) and then it comes up with two messages asking if i want to DL the two folders and a say 'yes' and then the errors come...  '200 PORT Command Sucessfull 550 Ubuntu Theme: The system cannot find the file' any reason why 
[04:28] <vignesh> This is my first time on #ubuntu...
[04:28] <IdleOne> vignesh:  welcome
[04:28] <Protex> Yes, welcome!
[04:28] <vignesh> Thanks...
[04:28] <Protex> It's my first time on IRC in general, lol
[04:28] <vignesh> Do I have to signup or something...
[04:29] <MrKip> Protex: dunno cant find it probly just me mind giving it a look
[04:29] <gnomefreak> bbl
[04:29] <IdleOne> vignesh:  if you want you can register your nickname
[04:29] <vignesh> How ?
[04:29] <IdleOne> vignesh:  type /msg nickserv help register
[04:30] <bliss> Seveas can you take a look at pastebin please and tell me what you think
[04:30] <Protex> MrKip: I'm on 32BIT, we would have different repos I think.
[04:30] <vignesh> REGISTER plm123qaz
[04:30] <Protex> MrKip: How'd you get the text red btw?
[04:30] <vignesh> SET
[04:30] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Anyone: any help
[04:31] <m0wax> I can't get my vncserver on ubuntu to use kde can anyone help?  I think its something to do with my ~/.vnc/xstartup configuration
[04:31] <bl> hello all..
[04:31] <IdleOne> vignesh:  all comands to nicksev start with /msg nickserv
[04:31] <Seveas> bliss, I think that looks alright
[04:31] <brenner> Protex: if someone uses your nick, the post will be highlighted for you
[04:31] <bl> i hope to give help if you can..
[04:31] <Protex> Ahh, thanks brenner!
[04:31] <brenner> welcome
[04:32] <bl> does anyone here can support me as to install a minimal ubuntu into mys usb stick??
[04:32] <bl> 1GB
[04:32] <bliss> Seveas how can I check if anything is blocking port 22 --my isp is not
[04:32] <Seveas> bl, search the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com/Installing is a good starting point
[04:33] <TokenBad> has anyone done shoutcast and using xmms plugin to serve music to it or have any other ways that can serve music to shoutcast server on ubuntu?
[04:33] <Seveas> bliss, did you mess with any kind of firewall on your machine? If not, then it's your router 
[04:33] <bl> already seen..
[04:33] <adri> can ubuntu package be installed in debian system?
[04:33] <g-thunder> hallo
[04:33] <g-thunder> uogrzkopfhkhjklhgjklghjklghjklghjklghjklghghl
[04:33] <bl> i found if possible an user already make this approach..
[04:34] <Seveas> adri, it may cause problems
[04:34] <adri> ok....
[04:34] <Seveas> adri, if you insist on it, recompile the package on your debian system
[04:34] <xualo> anyone from australia? i need the source list please
[04:34] <Seveas> !tell xualo about easysource
[04:34] <adri> i thought so... but not  sure
[04:35] <bliss> Seveas there is a firewall but I notice that on boot up its not configured so IT does not start --but is there way of checking if 22 is being blocked
[04:35] <adri> where can i find how to recompile package on debian system?
[04:35] <xualo> i this thing will fix my source list?
[04:35] <brenner> xualo: why? what's wrong with it?
[04:35] <Seveas> bliss, iptables -L
[04:35] <IdleOne> xualo:  it should tell you how to fix it
[04:35] <xualo> ahh ok
[04:36] <UBUNTU> hi...
[04:36] <xualo> i coz i put another list from US and when i put apt-get update it says please repair or fix your source list :\
[04:36] <foampeace> hi
[04:36] <xualo> i'll see if i can fix it
[04:36] <UBUNTU> Anyone created their own custom version of Ubuntu livecd ?
[04:36] <foampeace> how do i launch something with a keyboard shortcut...i see predefined gnome shortcuts
[04:37] <jetscreamer> make a new one
[04:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell foampeace about shortcut
[04:37] <UBUNTU> Press the keyboard shortcut..
[04:37] <IdleOne> UBUNTU:  and your english has improved greatly since you changed your nick
[04:37] <foampeace> thanks
[04:38] <UBUNTU> What ?
[04:38] <djp> just installed ubuntu, however i get a ntp synchronization failure on boot. how do i fix this?
[04:38] <IdleOne> nm
[04:38] <jetscreamer> him say you speekee english doubleplusgooder
[04:38] <foampeace> whats xkill?
[04:38] <IdleOne> lmfao jetscreamer
[04:38] <jetscreamer> an x version of kill ?
[04:38] <UBUNTU> Ok....This is my first time here....
[04:38] <IdleOne> funny you have the same username as vignesh
[04:38] <jetscreamer> or frontend to maybe
[04:39] <jetscreamer> !info xkill
[04:39] <ubotu> xkill: (X client - xkill), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.99.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 60 kB
[04:39] <UBUNTU> Really...I thought i changed it...
[04:39] <IdleOne> indeed
[04:39] <foampeace> maybe xkill is more agressive kill like kill the process
[04:39] <UBUNTU> I get it now... :D I tried registering but it failed...
[04:40] <jetscreamer> /ns help register
[04:40] <Engla> Heyhey. I can't get notify-send to work... it just stalls and nothing shows up if I try to send anything
[04:40] <bliss> Seveas I have pasted it in pastbin ---nothing showing as far as I can see
[04:40] <UBUNTU> @ IdleOne... Have you made your own custom livecd based on Ubuntu ?
[04:40] <brenner> djp: searched the forum yet?
[04:40] <IdleOne> UBUNTU:  no I have not
[04:41] <UBUNTU> Idleone : I did one last week...A very minor update..Added beep media player,vlc and gcc
[04:41] <blacking> anyone with experience about yaboot under Ubuntu??
[04:42] <UBUNTU> I am planning to remove openoffice and add a few packages for college use..
[04:42] <Yorchi> Dapper Drake, At least! :)
[04:42] <UBUNTU> What do you use Idleone ?
[04:42] <IdleOne> UBUNTU:  dont you think openoffice would be useful to a college student?
[04:42] <djp> brenner, looking... it tells me how to disable ntp if it is slow at startup, but i wondered if i could just get it working?
[04:43] <UBUNTU> IdleOne : Its too slow... on  a low end system..
[04:43] <IdleOne> granted
[04:43] <djp> brenner, i found this... http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2524667
[04:43] <UBUNTU> How come your colour changed ?
[04:43] <brenner> djp: did you config your net setup at install?  b/c ntpdate is synching the clock with an external server
[04:44] <screach> wow  there are a lot of users here
[04:44] <akambi> thanx every body!! I succeeded to install Amsn_0.95
[04:44] <IdleOne> UBUNTU:  because I didnt type your nick
[04:44] <Madpilot> djp: you can set ntp up to run while Ubuntu is running
[04:44] <UBUNTU> What else do you think I can add /remove to free up space ?
[04:44] <djp> brenner, yes. everything seems to be working fine apart from ntp at startup...
[04:44] <UBUNTU> I have got to learn a lot here..
[04:44] <UBUNTU> I am using X-Chat..What about  you ?
[04:44] <IdleOne> !devellop
[04:44] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[04:44] <IdleOne> !develop
[04:44] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[04:44] <IdleOne> beats me dude
[04:45] <akambi> I am using Amule, and the server tells me that i have a low ID cuz I am behind a firewall, Thus I ve not configure one
[04:45] <akambi> Does anybody know how i can fix that
[04:45] <UBUNTU> Oh...
[04:45] <ablomen> akambi, your router could have one
[04:45] <UBUNTU> What do you use ?
[04:45] <kwiat> oot up breezy 64 i'm getting (the only) failure of "mount local filesystems". my system is completely usable but doesnt displays the windows partition and an fat32 file exchange partition (both arranged before). do you have an idea?
[04:46] <brenner> djp: by failure i take it you mean you get a [fail]  thing at the right of screen, but you can still login and run gnome?
[04:46] <akambi> Ablomen: In that case hat can I do
[04:46] <kwiat> sorry, my message was: i need help - everytime i boot up breezy 64 i'm getting (the only) failure of "mount local filesystems". my system is completely usable but doesnt displays the windows partition and an fat32 file exchange partition (both arranged before). do you have an idea?
[04:46] <ablomen> akambi, look at the manual of your router to see how you can open the ports that amule needs
[04:47] <akambi> ok thanx
[04:47] <ablomen> np good luck
[04:47] <UBUNTU> Bye...IdleOne... See you maybe tomorrow if you will chat then...
[04:47] <akambi> kwiat: have U tried to edit the fstab file?
[04:47] <UBUNTU> quit
[04:47] <djp> brenner, yes
[04:48] <kwiat> akambi, sorry i'm a newbie
[04:48] <colm> n
[04:48] <djp> brenner, eveything gives an ok except for the ntp sync, which displays fail
[04:48] <kwiat> akambi how can i do that
[04:48] <akambi> what kind of partyition do you have kwiat
[04:48] <kwiat> akambi could there be any log file showing what problem i have?
[04:49] <kwiat> akambi, what do you mean?`
[04:49] <farous> am trying to change the default open program to open .lyx files on nautiluse useng the open with menu from properties but does not seem to work. Anyone knows how can i set it and why it is not working
[04:49] <brenner> djp: i had the same problem.  my guess is that the n/work is being setup *after* the synch attempt.  but i'm not certain that that is the case
[04:49] <pigor> hi :-) is there any german speaking ubuntu channel?
[04:49] <_mindspin> yep
[04:49] <Enverex> Anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?
[04:49] <_mindspin> !ntfs
[04:49] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:49] <djp> brenner, did you disable the service?
[04:49] <brenner> pigor: #ubuntu-de
[04:49] <_mindspin> that was for you akambi
[04:49] <ablomen> farous, try right klicking on a .lyx file and look at the last tab
[04:50] <akambi> open the file /etc/fstab with gedit
[04:50] <brenner> djp: yes.  but i'm on dialup, so i'm not connected at bootup anyway. :)
[04:50] <pigor> brenner: thank you
[04:50] <ablomen> farous, i meant right klick, the properties
[04:50] <akambi> kwiat: open the file /etc/fstab with gedit
[04:50] <kwiat> akambi ok! ill do so
[04:50] <lemsx1> Enverex: fdisk -l /dev/hda ??
[04:50] <farous> ablomen: that is what i am doing. whenever i check the lyx program i just get an empty field
[04:51] <alvaro_> hol
[04:51] <djp> brenner, ah, ok. :)
[04:51] <Winnfield> hi, can anyone help me? i'm trying to compile a program but i take an error (/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl)
[04:51] <Yoni> Hi all
[04:51] <djp> brenner, thanks all the same....
[04:51] <ablomen> farous, when you open it in a editor? (thats what you want to do right?)
[04:51] <akambi> kwiat: This file display partitions that will be mounted at startup
[04:51] <farous> ablomen: i wnt the default appl to open .lyx files to be lyx
[04:51] <alvaro_> hola
[04:51] <Yoni> How can I FULLY uninstall a package that I installed via "apt-get install" from the console[ ? ] 
[04:52] <Yoni> I'm connecting to my Linux box from a remote box via an SSH connection..
[04:52] <kwiat> akambi ive sent you a personal message
[04:52] <farous> is it because lyx a qt program ?
[04:52] <_jason> Yoni: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[04:53] <ablomen> farous, ok thats right klick => properties => open with => add
[04:53] <Enverex> lemsx1, No, deffinately not
[04:53] <Enverex> /dev/sda3               1       10396    83505838+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:53] <Yoni> Thank you :)
[04:53] <Enverex> My Reiser4 partition is deffinately not NTFS
[04:53] <farous> ablomen: i am trying to do that but it is not working. I said that in my original post and ever since
[04:53] <Enverex> Random shots in the dark aren't going to help...
[04:54] <lemsx1> Enverex: weird. i guess you formatted that partition after a windows installation created it?
[04:54] <farous> ablomen: i select the program from the list then hitting enter does not add it to the openweith list
[04:54] <Enverex> lemsx1, : No, no I didn't
[04:54] <ablomen> farous, ah ok
[04:54] <Gyuszk> bye
[04:54] <Enverex> fdisk will NOT tell me what version of reiser4 I am using
[04:54] <lemsx1> Enverex: fdisk doesn't lie
[04:54] <lemsx1> Enverex: the format of the partition is definitely different
[04:55] <ablomen> farous, wait a sec i had something for that im gonna look it up
[04:55] <lemsx1> Enverex: but the string for the "name" or type of the partition are set by whatever you used to create the partition
[04:55] <farous> thanx ablomen
[04:55] <akambi> kwiat: i didnt get Ur pm.
[04:55] <lemsx1> Enverex: i don't use reiser, so, i can't help you there.
[04:55] <akambi> sorry
[04:55] <akambi> Try again
[04:56] <bside> hello
[04:56] <bside> how can i treat a rpm file ?
[04:56] <Jemt> Greetings. We are holding a large computer gathering this week and was wondering how we can determine what ports are open on our internet connection - any suggestions?
[04:57] <brenner> bside: carefully.  they bite
[04:57] <Jemt> Ie I need to determine if the connection can be used for WoW
[04:57] <_jason> bside: give it candy?  what are you trying to install?
[04:57] <IdleOne> lol
[04:57] <bside> the mc
[04:57] <Jemt> .. and ofcause I'm running Linux (don't have WoW installed)
[04:57] <IdleOne> !candy
[04:57] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[04:57] <Jemt> bside: Midnight Commander?
[04:58] <bside> yes
[04:58] <Jemt> bside: Why not 'apt-get install mc' ?
[04:58] <ablomen> farous, sorry i cant find it anymore i found it after a lot of googling, sorry
[04:58] <blacking> link, book or other as start a small distro from scratch
[04:58] <blacking> tahnks
[04:58] <farous> no problem thanks for hour help though :)
[04:58] <Jemt> blacking: LinuxFromScratch (search google)
[04:58] <kwiat> sorry, can anyone help with this boot up error: "mounting local file system ... failed"?
[04:59] <ablomen> farous, you can try to make a litle bash script that opens the app and use that as standerd app
[04:59] <damian_> ha finally got this thing working
[04:59] <bside> working :) thx
[04:59] <_jason> damian_: what did you end up doing?
[04:59] <damian_> renamed libjack0.100.0 to libjack.so.0
[04:59] <Goshawk> what are the differencies between "ia64" and "amd64"?
[04:59] <damian_> but thank you everyone for your help
[04:59] <bside> can i see the ntfs partitions ?
[04:59] <farous> hmm might try that though it is strange it won't open directly
[04:59] <damian_> 'temporary fix"
[04:59] <bside> i mean the files on them
[04:59] <brenner> Jemt: use firestarter to manage iptables maybe?  not sure.
[05:00] <farous> i have it listed in the programs list
[05:00] <_jason> damian_: ok, but those things are managed by the package manager :/  you should really divert those and then do it if you have to do it that way.  Do the other apps that depend on jack still work?
[05:00] <farous> i can even open the file with it :)
[05:00] <damian_> yep cos ir enamed the newer version
[05:00] <damian_> everythging else is using hte old one
[05:00] <ablomen> farous, yeah its strange, still a litle bit bugy nautilus i guess
[05:01] <_jason> damian_: I see, so you just renamed what was in /usr/local?
[05:01] <farous> :)
[05:01] <lab2> hey, who is this??
[05:01] <brenner> yo mama
[05:01] <damian_> there wasnt a libjack.so.0 in /usr.local/lib
[05:01] <ablomen> lab2, this is the ubuntu irc channel i guess ;)
[05:01] <lab2> is your
[05:02] <damian_> turns out thats what it was looking for all along and wheere it was
[05:02] <Jemt> brenner: It's a firewall - I need to scan a network
[05:02] <_jason> damian_: ah I see
[05:02] <Yoni> Although I tried to delete apache package with the cmd:  apt-get remove --purge packagename -- it showed lie it removed it from my DB tough all the files still exist in /etc/apache + /etc/init.d & so on... how can I FULLY remove it?
[05:02] <damian_> some reason the file i needed was called libjack.0.100.0.so.0
[05:02] <iGad_bigdisk> hi
[05:02] <Yoni> *lie = like
[05:02] <ubuntu_ha> hello, can anybody tell me which package should i install to get phreads lib ?
[05:02] <damian_> i had rather
[05:03] <damian_> its late im not thinking staright lol
[05:03] <lab2> ei, vc fala portugus
[05:03] <_jason> !pt
[05:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:03] <brenner> damian_: 4 past 3 right?
[05:03] <iGad_bigdisk> small question... I have a brandnew server here with a 12 port 3ware 9550SX, containing about 5TB of HDD space... any chance I can use about 20GB for Ubuntu and the other 4.980TB for data (as one partion)?
[05:04] <damian_> yes
[05:04] <damian_> where u from?
[05:04] <lemsx1> Goshawk: http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t5410.html http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/35963-cpu-naming-schemes-x86-386-486-586-amd-64-ia64-em64t.html
[05:04] <Blixou> bonjour  vous
[05:04] <brenner> melb
[05:04] <ubuntu_ha> ?
[05:04] <ubuntu_ha> anybody?
[05:04] <ines> anyone knows if firestarter allows to block an ip we provide graphically?
[05:04] <lemsx1> ines: what's "graphically" ?
[05:04] <ablomen> iGad_bigdisk, i think so, had problems with the fs?
[05:04] <ivonchi> holas
[05:04] <damian_> whoever was talking about muse and dehmudi i have vst's working now in linux its mad!!
[05:05] <damian_> fucking amazing to see excuse my language
[05:05] <Goshawk> hi lemsx1
[05:05] <lemsx1> Goshawk: hello
[05:05] <lemsx1> Goshawk: i'm not too sure what you meant by the differences of the two. but the first link answers most of those questions
[05:05] <damian_> next i gotta wait for this program lmms to be able to load all my fl projects and im set
[05:05] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: not yet... but the array seems to be divided into sda / sdb / sdc, although I did not configure this in the bios...
[05:05] <lemsx1> Goshawk: remember intel copied amd64 and rename it to EM64T
[05:06] <Goshawk> thanks, lemsx1 have you switched to ubuntu?
[05:06] <lemsx1> Goshawk: a long time ago
[05:06] <lemsx1> Goshawk: i just finished installing Dapper on this box
[05:06] <ablomen> iGad_bigdisk, it doesnt seem to see the raid config right?
[05:06] <Goshawk> sure? i thought you had a debian core :D
[05:06] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: so I figured this must have something to do with partition size limitations or something
[05:06] <brenner> ubuntu_ha: phreads?
[05:06] <Davey|Laptop> TML: any thoughts on this?
[05:06] <Davey|Laptop>  Feb 17 11:05:36 mail2 amavis[23073] : (23073-03) Passed, <sean@phparch.com> -> <davey@crtx.org>, Message-ID: <43F5F4E7.3000901@phparch.com>, Hits: -1.385
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[05:07] <blacking> fantastic resource linuxfromscratch
[05:07] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: It does... although I needed dapper flight 3 to make the 3ware 9550 work
[05:07] <lemsx1> Goshawk: ubuntu is debian :-)
[05:07] <Protex> Guys I have a question, when I upgrade to Dapper I will need to reinstall VMware right? The modules won't just attach themselves to the new kernel?
[05:07] <blacking> but is there anyone here with Apple experience??
[05:07] <ines> lemsx1: meant that if we could use firestarter gui to do it, as I'm sure that there's a way through the command line.
[05:08] <lemsx1> Goshawk: just now i get my packages from ubuntu.com and not debian.org ;-)
[05:08] <iGad_bigdisk> blacking: depending on your problem... a little
[05:08] <lemsx1> ines: ah, sure. there is a Policy section of Firestarter to allow you to add and remove IPs
[05:08] <ablomen> iGad_bigdisk, then you should have no problems, if it doesnt work with fdisk you should google about linux with big diskspaces, havnt got a 4tb box laing around here to try ;)
[05:08] <xualo> the list i got from this website (http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic) when i do apt-get update it says E: Some index files failed to download,You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems, any reason why?
[05:08] <netsurf3> hi all i am using ndiswrapper but i used the -m option in the wrong order (i didn't modprobe first) and the driver refuses to load on boot causing an majour irritation anychance of telling me what i need to change?
[05:08] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: no time huh... I know the feeling :)
[05:09] <Half-Left> Nvidia driver will not work at all with Dapper, any ideas?
[05:09] <ablomen> iGad_bigdisk, lol more like no money :p
[05:09] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: errr... just missed the N in havnt :p
[05:09] <blacking> sure, i should install an ubuntu distro inside an external drive ..
[05:09] <Protex> Half-Left Dapper has the latest in the repositories "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[05:09] <Goshawk> lemsx1, thank that link solved my question
[05:09] <kwiat> when im trying to mount a fat32 partition im getting this error message: kwiat@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /media/windows
[05:09] <kwiat> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda7,
[05:09] <kwiat>        missing codepage or other error
[05:09] <kwiat>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:09] <kwiat>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:09] <kwiat> what does that mean?
[05:09] <lemsx1> Goshawk: i took what you typed and paste it just like that on Google.com ;-) the first link that came up was that
[05:09] <blacking> my machine is an powerbook g4
[05:09] <Half-Left> Protex: yes tried that and dont work, even a manual install dont work
[05:10] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: ohwell... I'll try google then. Thanks anyway :)
[05:10] <DVSoftware> hello
[05:10] <petr> how to open encrypted zip files (created by winzip)?
[05:10] <ablomen> ablomen, good luck :)
[05:10] <brenner> kwiat: you aren't using the right syntax for one
[05:10] <DVSoftware> i'd like to ask one thing
[05:10] <Protex> Half-Left: Sorry, I have no idea then. Is nvidia-kernel-source installed?
[05:10] <Half-Left> Protex: even with the vanilla kernel it dont work
[05:10] <DVSoftware> while i was still using ubuntulinux
[05:10] <brenner> kwiat: sys > help > starter guide > windows partitions
[05:10] <DVSoftware> i have created this logo http://www.fun-zone.org/mkportal/templates/FunZoneV2/images/logo.jpg
[05:10] <dejan_> someone to help with installation JDK 1.6 beta??
[05:11] <ines> lemsxl: I would think that it's in Policy tab, Inbound traffic policy, but there are 2 boxes: One is called "Allow connections from host", the other "Allow service".
[05:11] <Protex> Half-Left: Sorry friend, I don't know then.
[05:11] <DVSoftware> and now, i can't remember
[05:11] <DVSoftware> what font it is
[05:11] <Goshawk> lemsx1, are you upgrading to dapper to use xgl?
[05:11] <kwiat> brenner, thanks
[05:11] <xualo> anyone?
[05:11] <DVSoftware> it's in ubuntu
[05:11] <petr> how to open encrypted zip files (created by winzip)?
[05:12] <colm> sudo apt-get install unzip
[05:12] <Half-Left> I have everything in place for the nvidia driver, but it's saying no glx module found, cannot find module nvidia, even though it's loaded
[05:12] <ines> lemsxl: guess I'm looking for the "Block connections from host" window, but can't.
[05:12] <ines> lemsxl: Or is it Outbound traffic policy?
[05:12] <DVSoftware> can somebody please tell me what that font is? i think it begins with letter "m"
[05:12] <xualo> the list i got from this website (http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic) when i do apt-get update it says E: Some index files failed to download,You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems, any reason why?
[05:12] <ablomen> petr, you can try 7zip, they have a linux version
[05:12] <Protex> Half-Left: Have you tried just for tryings sake, uninstalling, rebooting, installing again?
[05:13] <dejan_> can I install JDK 1,6 beta in my ubuntu?
[05:13] <Half-Left> Protex: yes, the nvidia-glx worked but after putting my computer on today it dont
[05:13] <petr> ya i remember
[05:13] <Protex> Half-Left: And you haven't changed anything since then? Dapper is in Developmental Release, they did say that X would randomly break.
[05:14] <Yoni> ow can I stop services that are running in the background from the console? like Apache? sshd? & so on?
[05:14] <Half-Left> Protex: no, but you maybe right about the Xorg breakage
[05:14] <Protex> Yoni: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop   I think.
[05:14] <Yoni> When I'm doing this, I'm getting: Stopping web server: apacheNo process in pidfile `/var/run/apache.pid' found running; none killed.
[05:15] <colm> Yoni, ls /etc/init.d to see services
[05:15] <ablomen> Yoni, killall apache
[05:15] <bside> where can i find radeon drivers for an ati video ?
[05:15] <colm> ablomen, lol
[05:15] <akambi> hello! Does anybody know where I can find a precompiled version of E17 for Ubuntu
[05:15] <ablomen> colm, well it works ;)
[05:15] <vithos> everytime i leave badblocks -n running overnight from a ubuntu livecd, when i wake up my monitor is in standby and i can't get it to return from it, and i can't ^C blindly to stop the hard disk activity and have to cold boot and surely lose data
[05:15] <colm> ablomen, indeed!
[05:15] <Yoni> apache: no process killed
[05:15] <colm> apache2
[05:15] <brenner> DVSoftware: you sure?  i don't see any similarity with any of the m* fonts
[05:15] <ablomen> Yoni, apache2 srry
[05:16] <Yoni> tried that too, same respond
[05:16] <Yoni> apache2: no process killed
[05:16] <ablomen> Yoni, than its not running
[05:16] <Protex> Yoni, are you sure it's even running?
[05:16] <lemsx1> Goshawk: yes. i want to use Xgl
[05:16] <DVSoftware> Brendon: well, at least i'm sure that it's in ubuntu, for m, i'm not really sure
[05:16] <Yoni> yes, I cant remove it..
[05:16] <ablomen> Yoni, try "ps -ax | grep apache"
[05:17] <DVSoftware> brenner: can you please pastebin your fonts list?
[05:17] <brenner> DVSoftware: it's brenner.  MgOpen Moderna maybe
[05:17] <Goshawk> lemsx1, i'm looking in launchpad, a new version of xserver-xgl is ready
[05:17] <ablomen> Yoni, that should show you if its running or not
[05:17] <Goshawk> lemsx1, it crashed my amd64 dapper
[05:17] <ablomen> Yoni, (as in paste your output here)
[05:17] <petr> there r two files here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=111810
[05:18] <petr> which one shud i download ?
[05:18] <lemsx1> ines: do you want connections to the outside world? are you running a server? from a desktop i don't block anything going out. only connections coming in (whch are blocked by default). i use the inbound policy to open some ports to some hosts
[05:18] <DVSoftware> brenner: it's not MgOpen Moderna, it's greek
[05:18] <brenner> DVSoftware: where is it exactly?
[05:18] <brenner> DVSoftware: the font has "greek" in it?
[05:18] <petr> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=111810
[05:18] <ablomen> petr, the p7zip one
[05:18] <petr> ok
[05:18] <Cwiiis> Hi all - can anyone tell me where the list of modules is on dapper that gets used when reconfiguring the kernel and creating the initramfs? I've tried /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and that doesn't work, unless there's some magic to activate it?
[05:18] <DVSoftware> no but mgopen is greek
[05:19] <lemsx1> Goshawk: ah, that's exactly what i want. i don't want to install xgl from source
[05:19] <colm> petr, if you don't mind command line, try simple unzip instead
[05:19] <colm> sudo apt-get install unzip
[05:19] <Goshawk> lemsx1, didn't you know that they are in universe?
[05:19] <Yoni> ablomen, can I pm you the answer? it's 2 lines long..
[05:19] <lemsx1> Goshawk: amd64 ... did you read in freedesktop.org to see if that's supported by Xgl already?
[05:19] <Goshawk> lemsx1, and they work well for x86
[05:19] <Yoni> or should I paste it here?
[05:19] <ablomen> colm, that didnt work with encrypted files did it?
[05:19] <colm> ablomen, oh, never tried
[05:19] <ablomen> Yoni, shure pm it
[05:20] <lemsx1> Goshawk: i'm installing dapper now... it's still not done
[05:20] <Goshawk> lemsx1, yep it's supported but it "seems" to be compile with a bad flag for amd64, maybe this new version is ok
[05:20] <[olli] > hmm, where in evolution can i change the email format to text-only emails?
[05:20] <Goshawk> lemsx1, it crashed my X server, i had to came back to breezy, now i'm testing Xgl on a chroot envirorment
[05:20] <ablomen> Yoni, i dont realy care anyway, people wont hate you for posting 2 lines here
[05:20] <petr> ablomen: downloaded
[05:21] <ubuntu_ha> hmm, gcc doesnt work
[05:21] <ubuntu_ha> can anybody help me
[05:21] <ubuntu_ha> i am having immense trouble with it
[05:21] <Goshawk> lemsx1, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds
[05:21] <ablomen> petr, ok what kind of file is it?
[05:21] <colm> ubuntu_ha, symptoms?
[05:21] <petr> ablomen: its a tar.bz2 file
[05:21] <netsurf3> hi all i am using ndiswrapper but i used the -m option in the wrong order (i didn't modprobe first) and the driver refuses to load on boot causing an majour irritation anychance of telling me what i need to change?
[05:21] <dejan_> how to install this: jdk-6-rc-bin-b71-linux-i586-09_feb_2006.bin
[05:21] <ablomen> petr, ok just extract that
[05:21] <dejan_> help
[05:22] <ubuntu_ha> colm: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[05:22] <thegladiator> whats the linux equivalent for ipconfig ?
[05:22] <ubuntu_ha> what can i do to fix this issue?
[05:22] <Yoni> ifconfig
[05:22] <thegladiator> i am trying to clear the IP and refetch using DHCP
[05:22] <colm> ubuntu_ha, how did you install gcc?
[05:22] <ablomen> thegladiator, ifconfig
[05:22] <brenner> dejan_: ./<binfile>
[05:22] <ubuntu_ha> synaptic
[05:22] <thegladiator> ablomen, how about releasing IP ?
[05:22] <snowblink> thegladiator, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:22] <petr> ablomen: extracted
[05:22] <lemsx1> Goshawk: chroot!
[05:22] <dejan_> ok
[05:23] <Goshawk> lemsx1, just upgrade to dapper and do apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz (be careful it's unstable, and it's not the debian meaning of unstable :D)
[05:23] <thegladiator> i need to release the IP , like ipconfig /release
[05:23] <ablomen> petr, ok does it have a .sh file or something like that?
[05:23] <lemsx1> Goshawk: good. i have a launchpad account ;-)
[05:23] <thegladiator> and fetch back using ipconfig /renew
[05:23] <petr> ablomen: yes install.sh
[05:23] <DVSoftware> thegladiator: these are windows commands
[05:23] <lemsx1> Goshawk: experimental-unstable ? lol
[05:23] <brenner> ubuntu_ha: install build-essential
[05:23] <thegladiator> DVSoftware, looking for linux equivalent
[05:23] <ubuntu_ha> ok i try
[05:24] <DVSoftware> man dhclient
[05:24] <colm> ubuntu_ha, what software are you trying to install?
[05:24] <ablomen> petr, ok go to that folder with the terminal, do "chmod 755 ./install.sh" and then "sudo ./install.sh
[05:24] <dejan_> brenner: Permission denied :(
[05:24] <ubuntu_ha> i am trying to install money-httpd and thttpd
[05:24] <ubuntu_ha> both failed LOL..trying to install build-essential now as advised
[05:25] <lemsx1> ines: i guess i misunderstood you. all incoming traffic is blocked by default, so you don't have to do anything
[05:25] <wastrel> hello
[05:25] <Horo86> hi!
[05:25] <colm> ubuntu_ha, try /etc/make.conf
[05:25] <ubuntu_ha> whee
[05:25] <ubuntu_ha> it works brenner!
[05:25] <ubuntu_ha> colm : fixed
[05:26] <colm> ubuntu_ha - CFLAGS?
[05:26] <ablomen> petr, any luck?
[05:27] <adri> how to recompile ubuntu package on debian system?
[05:27] <petr> ablomen: line 44, 56, 65 command not found
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> !tell adri about gcc
[05:27] <chell> !tell chell about debian
[05:27] <pianoboy3333> Can you password protect text files?
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> adri: you also need build-essential
[05:28] <ablomen> petr, darn.. maybe theres something on the sites faq..
[05:28] <thegladiator> pianoboy3333, not directly I guess zip it ?
[05:28] <thegladiator> zip as in compress*
[05:28] <adri> i mean.... in debian system... how to use debian package?
[05:28] <pianoboy3333> kk......
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[05:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt-get is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[05:28] <pianoboy3333> !protect
[05:28] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:28] <ablomen> adri, sudo dpkg -i package
[05:28] <adri> ups sorry... in debian system .... how to use ubuntu package
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> pianoboy3333: just chmod it to 000 and you have no access to it
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> or chown
[05:29] <Protex> pianoboy3333 You can change the file permissions to lets say, root, and then you'd have to be a root user to view them.
[05:29] <pianoboy3333> I guess...
[05:29] <pianoboy3333> thats a good idea
[05:29] <adri> i would like to use open office 2.0 from ubuntu instead of open office 1.1.3 from built in debian in debian system
[05:30] <adri> i was told to recompile the package, but how?
[05:30] <adri> try googlling, what is the key word?
[05:30] <Protex> adri: Would it be easier to just go to openoffice.org and follow instructions from there?
[05:30] <ablomen> adri, i think that isnt going to be easy, it will be compatibility hell... just install ubuntu ;)
[05:30] <petr> they have not even given how to install 7zip for linux
[05:30] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: think I found the problem...
[05:30] <adri> ok
[05:30] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: 3ware has this nice little option in it's bios called '2TB autocarving'
[05:31] <hatake_kakashi> adri: you might as well compile oo.o from source and install it from there
[05:31] <adri> i think i'll download from... oo then use check install...
[05:31] <NET||abuse> !xgl
[05:31] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:31] <adri> ok thank...
[05:31] <Protex> adri: sounds like a plan.
[05:31] <adri> thank you for answering......
[05:31] <tritium> adri: you can use an ubuntu deb-src repo, and then apt-get source --build <package>
[05:31] <ablomen> iGad_bigdisk, lol ok thats nice... :S
[05:32] <ablomen> iGad_bigdisk, so its a bios thinh?
[05:32] <ablomen> *thing
[05:32] <petr> ablomen:
[05:32] <iGad_bigdisk> ablomen: Think so... I turned it off, now I have to rebuild the entire(!) array :s
[05:33] <ablomen> iGad_bigdisk, well good luck, hope it works
[05:33] <dejan_> how to install : jdk-6-rc-bin-b71-linux-i586-09_feb_2006.bin  ??
[05:33] <iGad_bigdisk> thanks, me to ;)
[05:33] <ablomen> petr, try googling for "7zip on ubuntu"
[05:33] <hunger> I got a procmail setup that filters my mails into several maildirs. What is the best way to integrate that into evolution?
[05:33] <petr> ok
[05:34] <lemsx1> adri: install apt-src on debian (or ubuntu or xandros) and add the deb-src entry for the packages you want to back port and do: apt-src install PACKAGE as root
[05:34] <wastrel> is there a snap-to-borders feature in metacity?
[05:34] <wastrel> snap-to-edges
[05:35] <tritium> yes, wastrel
[05:35] <thegladiator> any one who uses enlightenment here ?
[05:35] <thegladiator> just a doubt
[05:35] <tritium> hold down the shift key while dragging the window, and it will snap to edges
[05:35] <lemsx1> adri: install apt-src on debian (or ubuntu or xandros) and add the deb-src entry for the packages you want to back port and do: apt-src install PACKAGE as root
[05:35] <COOlTech> I have used it...
[05:35] <thegladiator> tritium, i dont know
[05:36] <ablomen> thegladiator, i'v tried it, wasnt realy worth it in my point of view
[05:36] <tritium> you don't even need apt-src, adri
[05:36] <thegladiator> thanks
[05:36] <wastrel> tritium:  thx
[05:36] <tritium> adri: you can use an ubuntu deb-src r, and then apt-get source --build <package>
[05:36] <tritium> deb-src repo, that is
[05:36] <tritium> sure, wastrel
[05:36] <tritium> thegladiator: ?
[05:37] <lemsx1> tritium: good to know... but apt-get gets the dependencies as well?
[05:37] <DVSoftware> can somebody pastebin me font list?
[05:37] <thegladiator> sorry tritium confused with another window . your reply made sense to that question :)
[05:37] <tritium> lemsx1: there is a build-dep option in apt-get ;)
[05:37] <lemsx1> tritium: meaning if it needs to recompile newer versions
[05:37] <lemsx1> tritium: that definitely makes apt-src redundant then... i just ilke the name: apt-src ;-)
[05:37] <tritium> lemsx1: apt-src is a fine tool, also
[05:38] <tritium> lemsx1: :)
[05:38] <lemsx1> tritium: agree
[05:38] <ablomen> tritium, is that like the gentoo emerge thing?
[05:38] <lemsx1> tritium: but if apt-get does the same and it's ALWAYS there, then there is no reason to use anything else
[05:39] <wastrel> tritium:  is it possible to turn off focus raises window when using alt-tab?
[05:39] <tritium> ablomen: essentially, yes.  You can build package from source just as easily with apt-get source --build
[05:39] <lemsx1> tritium: that doesn't always apply to all other software of course... look at the gap that Fx feels even though IE is always there :-P
[05:39] <tritium> lemsx1: :)
[05:39] <lemsx1> tritium: s/feels/fills/ ... lack of tea today
[05:39] <ablomen> ok thanks always nice to learn something new ;)
[05:40] <madgik85> hello, i was wondering if anyone could help me, I am looking for my grub.conf file... where is it usually found? help would be appreciated
[05:40] <tritium> wastrel: I don't recall.  Did you check System->Preferences->Windows?
[05:40] <tritium> madgik85: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:40] <madgik85> tritium: thank you
[05:40] <wastrel> tritium:  not yet, i've been looking in the metacity gconf settings
[05:41] <tritium> wastrel: give it a look then
[05:41] <DVSoftware> please... can i get that font list?
[05:41] <tritium> sure thing, madgik85
[05:41] <wastrel> heh there's nothing there, 3 options :] 
[05:41] <ablomen> tritium, lol you can run this whole irc box on your own can you? ;)
[05:42] <tritium> ablomen: not even close :)
[05:42] <DVSoftware> :(
[05:42] <ablomen> DVSoftware, w8 a sec
[05:42] <kakodaimono> alo
[05:42] <ablomen> DVSoftware, ill ls my truetype folder for you
[05:42] <DVSoftware> ok
[05:42] <DVSoftware> thanks
[05:43] <kakodaimono> someone speaks spanish?
[05:43] <tritium> !es
[05:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:43] <kakodaimono> ok thanks
[05:43] <wastrel> que interesante
[05:43] <tritium> de nada, kakodaimono
[05:43] <kakodaimono> what?
[05:44] <ablomen> DVSoftware, http://213.10.104.32/fonts.txt
[05:44] <kakodaimono> ok
[05:44] <wastrel> lemsx1:  if you find one let me know first
[05:44] <lemsx1> wastrel: lol. they have one for the phone already. might was wall do it for text
[05:44] <kakodaimono> look i`ll try to be  clear...
[05:44] <DVSoftware> huh, ok thanks, i'll take a look
[05:45] <kakodaimono> i have aproblem with the sound
[05:45] <lemsx1> wastrel: well, they are working on it, it's not a commercial product yet (that i know of)
[05:45] <kakodaimono> when i start ubuntu starts a sound like tambors..
[05:46] <ablomen> DVSoftware, just google on those names and i think youll find what your looking for
[05:46] <kakodaimono> ok thanks
[05:46] <flujan> hi guys, I need a backport of the xorg 6.9 or 7.0. I have a intel 915M laptop and need 1280*800 configuration.
[05:46] <flujan> is there such back-port?
[05:47] <lemsx1> flujan: forward port? lol. get dapper and hack-away
[05:47] <ablomen> flujan, try searching on apt-get.org, maybe theres a reposetory that has it there
[05:47] <lemsx1> flujan: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-devel or so
[05:48] <Cwiiis> It seems the nvidia module is missing for me in dapper amd64 (kernel 2.6.15) - Anyone know anything about this?
[05:48] <ablomen> Cwiiis, it is installed but it doesnt work out of the box, have the same problem here, dont know how to fix it, will be kinda hard
[05:50] <rugolini> anyone know a good software to make dvd video under linux ?
[05:50] <rugolini> with GUI
[05:50] <Cwiiis> ablomen: Is there a bug report about it? And do you know if an earlier kernel works?
[05:50] <tritium> rugolini: kino
[05:50] <instabin> how do i tell how much free hd space i have
[05:50] <tritium> df -h, instabin
[05:51] <theBishop> has anyone been able to get Xgl working?
[05:51] <rugolini> TrickyPhillips, thanks
[05:51] <rugolini> tritium, thanks
[05:51] <ablomen> Cwiiis, after the update to dapper i didnt get it to work, with older kernels 2, ithinks its just a matter of waiting till theres a update for it
[05:51] <tritium> sure, rugolini
[05:51] <skunk_eyed> how do i set up a fat 32 partition to be mounted at boot and r/w accessible by any use
[05:51] <theBishop> apt is telling me certain dependencies are not installable
[05:51] <jetscreamer> man 5 mount
[05:52] <flujan> no answer in the ubuntu-devel channel
[05:52] <flujan>  :(
[05:52] <ablomen> skunk_eyed, you have to edit the /etc/fstab file, try googling
[05:53] <jetscreamer> umask, dmask, fmask, uid, gid
[05:53] <lemsx1> theBishop: ask me that 40 min from now
[05:54] <lemsx1> theBishop: i'm working on installing dapper on a box that should at least work... intel GPU
[05:54] <kakodaimono> someone from chile?
[05:54] <colm> well wish me luck just done a dapper dist-upgrade on this box, to see if I can help test...   reboot now pending
[05:54] <lemsx1> kakodaimono: from chile or living in chile?
[05:54] <tritium> or eating chile?
[05:54] <kakodaimono> living o from..
[05:54] <lemsx1> colm: nice
[05:54] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[05:54] <lemsx1> tritium: ROFL
[05:54] <tritium> :)
[05:55] <skunk_eyed> thanks. and where might i find a collection of ubuntu repos?
[05:55] <kakodaimono> triitium :P
[05:55] <lemsx1> kakodaimono: did you try #ubuntu-es ?
[05:55] <raphink> anyone on GNOME here could confirm whether services-admin is what you find in System->Administration->Services?
[05:55] <kakodaimono> it says that it doesn`t exist
[05:55] <tritium> yes, raphink
[05:55] <raphink> tritium: you mean yes that's the app that is there?
[05:56] <lemsx1> raphink: can't get properties for those menus now uh?
[05:56] <makaveli> whereis startup file for services
[05:56] <makaveli> like rc
[05:56] <tritium> yes, raphink
[05:56] <tritium> makaveli: /etc/init.d
[05:56] <makaveli> thank u
[05:56] <raphink> lemsx1: I' mon KDE and don't want to launch GNOME to check a bug ;)
[05:56] <raphink> thanks much tritium
[05:56] <tritium> any time
[05:56] <Ng> not everything in /etc/init.d is started at boot
[05:57] <Ng> just the things symlinked into /etc/rcS.d/ and /etc/rc2.d/
[05:57] <olab> hello
[05:58] <ydo> the other day, things in my /etc/rcS.d started looping probably because something failed.. is it because the status code returned or what goes on stdout/stderr?
[05:58] <olab> thre is anybody here?
[05:58] <olab> heello
[05:58] <olab> heello
[05:58] <skunk_eyed> thanks. and where might i find a collection of ubuntu repos?
[05:58] <lemsx1> olab: ask away
[05:58] <Ng> olab: yes, we're here
[05:58] <lemsx1> skunk_eyed: you can easily google that
[05:58] <ct-design> hi. i just have a short question...
[05:58] <ydo> ct-design: just ask
[05:59] <skunk_eyed> lemsxl: yea, but i am lazy. will do anyway :P
[05:59] <ct-design> in our school we're running ubuntu...and we have vlc...were can i get it for ubuntu?
[05:59] <lemsx1> skunk_eyed: that's why nobody replies then. because you are lazy :-)
[05:59] <ablomen> ct-design, www.ubuntulinux.com
[05:59] <sorush20> how do I extract all the tar.bz2 packages in a directory into that directory in one command?
[05:59] <ablomen> ct-design, you can order free cd-roms there ;)
[05:59] <lemsx1> !vlc
[05:59] <ubotu> it has been said that vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[05:59] <_jason> ct-design: vlc is in the unvirse repository
[06:00] <tritium> vlc is in universe repo, ct-design
[06:00] <ablomen> ct-design, oops didnt read it right
[06:00] <_jason> universe even
[06:00] <tritium> !info vlc
[06:00] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[06:00] <colm> ok reboot done!  now in dapper.  WOW it's so much faster (Gnome over freenx connection)
[06:00] <Enverex> Does anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using?
[06:00] <lemsx1> colm: nice nice
[06:00] <lemsx1> colm: gaim version?
[06:00] <_jason> ct-design: do you have universe enabled and know how to use synaptic?
[06:00] <lemsx1> colm: i'm using gaim-cvs now :-P
[06:00] <ct-design> sry but i am really ubuntu-noob. what do you mean?
[06:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell ct-design about synaptic
[06:00] <ablomen> lemsx1, gaim is still 1.5
[06:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell ct-design about repos
[06:01] <lemsx1> ablomen: good to know... no beta packages yet?
[06:01] <ct-design> thx. will read this along
[06:01] <tritium> ct-design: jason had ubotu send you some info
[06:01] <ablomen> lemsx1, nope no 2.0 or anything
[06:01] <rugolini> tritium, kino is for dv-videos, i want to make a dvd from an avi
[06:01] <colm> lemsx1, 1.5.1cvs
[06:01] <lemsx1> ablomen: ok... time to wait i guess
[06:02] <ablomen> the only thing realy changed by switching to dapper for me is no 3d support, isnt realy worth to upgrade
[06:02] <tritium> rugolini: are you sure it can't do that?
[06:02] <colm> ablomen, over freenx, not really considering 3D ;)
[06:03] <GameCat> can anyone advise me on changing video card? nvidia geforce 4 > nvidia FX 5500
[06:03] <rugolini> tritium, i read in the site that it cant
[06:03] <tritium> sorry, rugolini
[06:03] <rugolini> thats ok :P
[06:03] <sorush20> !tar
[06:04] <trappist> GameCat: should just be a matter of swapping out hardware.  the cards are supported by the same driver.
[06:04] <lemsx1> GameCat: nvidia -> any other nvidia and never any other brand
[06:04] <ablomen> colm, ok thats easy, but i realy enjoyd playing enemy territory ;) and open ttd runs a little slow now 2 :S
[06:04] <lemsx1> GameCat: i switched to ATI and feel cheated :-(
[06:04] <colm> i'll have to #blush# and admit my xp box is for HL2, tool for the job and all that...
[06:04] <ablomen> lemsx1, lol ati is horrible, the linux support isnt worth anything
[06:05] <lemsx1> ablomen: tell me about it. i always rant about that in the rage3d
[06:05] <ablomen> lol im using dual boot, still need gaming too ;)
[06:05] <ydo> sorush20: for f in *.tar.bz2; do mkdir "$f";cd "$f";tar xfj ../$f;cd ..;done
[06:06] <trappist> every time I think I might want to dual boot, cedega comes out and supports the game I was gonna dual boot for.  this time they did it with civilization 4.
[06:06] <colm> at the moment, what I really want is CYMK in Linux...
[06:06] <ablomen> lemsx1, lol
[06:06] <ydo> trappist: cedega supports civ 4 now?! wow
[06:06] <lemsx1> colm: lol.. many people waiting in line for that
[06:06] <ct-design> ok now. but where can i download these packages for ubuntu? on the official-hp there isnt a ubuntu-file
[06:06] <trappist> ydo: as of 5.1, yeah
[06:06] <GameCat> thanks guys - I'll try that now...
[06:06] <marvel> I trying to install VPN client software and the install package is asking for the location of the kernel files.  I'm learn to use ubuntu but I don't know the location of linux kernel in ubuntu.  Can anyone help
[06:06] <ablomen> colm, CYMK?
[06:07] <colm> lemsx1, ablomen, Krita now has cymk, but I think i'll need SVN version
[06:07] <tafsen> Is there an easy way to convert an Realmedia file in to avi?
[06:07] <lemsx1> ablomen: i'd rather die than dual boot!
[06:07] <lemsx1> ablomen: lol
[06:07] <oklinux> trappist I got the printer going.
[06:07] <tritium> ct-design: add the universe and multiverse repos to your sources.list, and you can install them easily
[06:07] <hatake_kakashi> marvel: you need kernel-headers I believe
[06:07] <trappist> marvel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and point the installer at /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include
[06:07] <colm> ablomen, Colour separation for professional printing
[06:07] <ct-design> what is a repos?
[06:07] <ablomen> colm, lol ok thats new to me
[06:07] <ablomen> lemsx1, well it does the job pretty good
[06:07] <tritium> marvel: also, vpnc works very well with Cisco VPN
[06:07] <marvel> great, thank you, I will try it
[06:08] <ablomen> lemsx1, need it for my ipod software 2 ;)
[06:08] <colm> ablomen, means Cyan Yellow Magenta blacK
[06:08] <lemsx1> colm: yeah, you mispelled it CMYK ;-)
[06:08] <colm> lol
[06:08] <tritium> marvel: the nice thing with vpnc is that you don't need to compile anything :)
[06:08] <lemsx1> colm:  lol
[06:08] <ablomen> colm, *penny drops* Ah! i understand :P
[06:09] <colm> think I'm suffering from abbreviation blindness today
[06:09] <lemsx1> colm: racist! you put yellow before Magenta!
[06:09] <cusco> !java
[06:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:09] <cusco> !javadebs
[06:11] <netsurf3> where can you get alsa tools or something to configure a soundcard?
[06:11] <ablomen> netsurf3, apt-get...
[06:11] <nowotny> anyone here using quanta editor...?
[06:11] <netsurf3> yeah but according to apt-get there is no source for installation
[06:11] <netsurf3> what repo do you know?
[06:12] <lemsx1> nowotny: we are all Anjuta users ... lol... just kidding. did you try #kubuntu ?
[06:12] <tritium> netsurf3: alsaconf is not included in ubuntu, since it is poorly maintained and buggy
[06:12] <ablomen> netsurf3, try searching at apt-get.org, its a search engine for apt repositorys
[06:12] <netsurf3> tritium so how can i configure a soundcard
[06:13] <tritium> netsurf3: in the vast majority of cases, it is done automatically
[06:13] <netsurf3> can i reactivate autoconfig?
[06:13] <nowotny> lemsx1: thanks... will check... ;)
[06:13] <tritium> what problems are you having, netsurf3 ?
[06:13] <lemsx1> nowotny: not sure if there is #kubuntu-devel
[06:14] <lemsx1> ablomen: sounds like you are going to the can ;-)
[06:14] <AstralJava> netsurf3: you could try package alsa-utils
[06:14] <netsurf3> well i have two soundcards one pci and a onboard. the pci just doesn seem to have been detected so i have renabled the onboard
[06:14] <wastrel> what's anjuta?
[06:14] <ablomen> lemsx1, thats what the as in dinner part is for ;)
[06:14] <nowotny> lemsx1: I'm just looking for someone to tell me how to put those damned tabs at the top... ;)
[06:14] <trappist> netsurf3: I hate when that happens.  when it happens to me though, alsaconf doesn't work either.
[06:15] <tritium> netsurf3: you've disabled the onboard in BIOS when you want the pci one detected?
[06:15] <bdawg54345> Can i dual boot if i install ubuntu i made 33 gigs of unpartitioned space
[06:15] <ct-design> i dont understand this text ubotu gave me :( i configured the packet-manager but it cant find the vlc package...
[06:15] <tritium> that's enough space, bdawg54345
[06:15] <tritium> ct-design: did you update your package listing?
[06:15] <bdawg54345> does it come with a bootloader?
[06:15] <ct-design> yes
[06:15] <lakcaj> bdawg54345, yes, grub
[06:15] <tritium> ct-design: you setup the universe repo?
[06:16] <ct-design> yeah. how it was discribed
[06:16] <Scarborough> when I tried to open a file in mp3 format, it says its textfile:S whats that about?
[06:16] <CryoTox> How do I get telnet working?
[06:17] <tritium> ct-design: then it should be available.  Did you search for it in synaptic?  Are you using apt-get
[06:17] <trappist> CryoTox: is that a trick question?
[06:17] <bdawg54345> will it work i have a p4
[06:17] <tritium> CryoTox: I recommend ssh instead
[06:17] <CryoTox> trappist: No idea
[06:17] <CryoTox> tritium: Were do I get ssh?
[06:18] <bdawg54345> i have a p4 should i get the x86 version
[06:18] <tritium> CryoTox: you already have the client installed.  Do you want to install a server on your machine?
[06:18] <lakcaj> CryoTox, do you know how to install software with ubuntu?
[06:18] <epp> hey how do i get ubuntu to detect my wireless card?
[06:18] <CryoTox> lakcaj: the sudo apt-get install PROGRAM right?
[06:18] <tritium> CryoTox: assuming you want the server, "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" (or just ssh)
[06:18] <elvin> hi there
[06:18] <elvin> do you know any online radios i can listen on ubuntu ?
[06:19] <pvh> I am worried that during an update I ran out of hard drive space. Will dpkg/apt-get detect that?
[06:19] <wastrel> pvh your apt repository can fill up with downloaded packages
[06:19] <wastrel> pvh try apt-get autoclean
[06:20] <pvh> wastrel: I'm more worried that during the actual install I had 0 bytes free at some point.
[06:20] <lakcaj> CryoTox, right... did you try apt-get install ssh?
[06:20] <CryoTox> yah
[06:20] <wastrel> pvh:  dunno :] 
[06:21] <lakcaj> wastrel, I don't think apt-get autoclean removes the .debs
[06:21] <epp> hey how do i get ubuntu to detect my wireless card?
[06:21] <CryoTox> I just want to telnet to this nethack thing
[06:21] <pvh> well, wish me luck.
[06:21] <netsurf3> wow looks like both were detected :D
[06:21] <netsurf3> :D
[06:21] <epp> Cryotox, telnet "ipadress?"
[06:22] <tritium> lakcaj: it does remove them from the cache, but only if they're no longer downloadable.  apt-get clean would clean everything out
[06:22] <CryoTox> epp: Is that the comand?
[06:22] <lakcaj> tritium, good to know.  I usually just rm /var/cache/apt/archives/* -fv
[06:22] <epp> i think so.
[06:22] <tritium> lakcaj: ah, ok
[06:22] <epp> Cryotox, i think so
[06:22] <colm> ah, it's krita 1.5beta that has the cmyk support...  I'll try the binary first
[06:23] <CryoTox> I git it working
[06:23] <kitty_> Can somebody please help me... somehow ive just deleted ALL OF MY MUSIC none of it is in the wastebasket and im gona start crying soon, is there a way of getting it back some how,  or even some of it.
[06:23] <CryoTox> got*
[06:24] <epp> Cryotox, so that command worked>
[06:24] <colm> kitty_, looks like it's time to rip those cd's again...
[06:24] <tritium> CryoTox: you realize telnet is unsecure?
[06:25] <cyblivious> test
[06:25] <tritium> kitty_: how did you delete them?
[06:25] <akambi> does anybody know if its worthy to install the last Ubuntu (Daper)
[06:25] <trappist> akambi: I don't recommend it
[06:25] <akambi> Why trappist?
[06:25] <ccooke> akambi: not this month, and probably not next.
[06:25] <epp> Cryotox, try ssh "ip address" for a more secure connection.
[06:25] <trappist> akambi: it's not the latest ubuntu - it's a prerelease testing version.  it's likely to break.
[06:25] <ccooke> akambi: it's not ready yet.
[06:26] <tritium> akambi: just wait until it's stable
[06:26] <ccooke> trappist: it's not even a prerelease, yet :-)
[06:26] <lakcaj> akambi, if you have to ask....
[06:26] <akambi> I would like to use the lastest amarok (1.4)
[06:26] <CryoTox> tritium: I'm aware
[06:26] <ccooke> akambi: wait until April.
[06:26] <trappist> ccooke: depends on your choice of nomenclature, I guess ;)  it's before release, so...
[06:27] <akambi> but it looks like i need to install dapper
[06:27] <basic`> dapper has been working for me
[06:27] <ccooke> trappist: sure, but in about a month or six weeks, they'll actually release a prerelease...
[06:27] <tritium> why do you say that, akambi ?
[06:27] <bdawg54345> guys im new and i get a error installing ubuntu is there any other linux versions that are good for beginners
[06:27] <basic`> except im not sure how to install fglrx
[06:27] <tritium> bdawg54345: what is the error?
[06:27] <ccooke> basic`: then you're lucky. it's still not something *recommended* yet.
[06:27] <bdawg54345> disc error
[06:27] <tritium> bdawg54345: at what point?  can you be more specific?
[06:27] <akambi> That's what they told me in the amarok channel
[06:27] <basic`> eh yeah i know... im just using it to test out xgl
[06:28] <bdawg54345> and i lost taht disc now when i try to download uvuntu from the site it wont download right
[06:28] <kitty_> they seemed to be duplicated and my second drive was nearly half full when it shoulnd have been cos ther was only say 10 gig of music in there but my drive had nothing but that music on it so i asumed that it was copied some how.. there were 2 files the same that had my music in. so i deleted one of them thinkin if it went wrong i could get it back out of the bin.. BUT I WAS WRONG,
[06:28] <bdawg54345> in the beginning
[06:28] <bdawg54345>  it wouldnt load the installer
[06:28] <epp> how do i detect mac airport?
[06:28] <kitty_> very wrong...
[06:28] <bdawg54345> now from the ubuntu site i cant download ubuntu
[06:29] <kitty_> but should it not have gone to the wastebin
[06:29] <netsurf3> :( hotplug keeps failing on kubuntu
[06:29] <mama> ciao a tutti|
[06:29] <tritium> bdawg54345: you can still download ubuntu.  What do you mean?
[06:29] <lakcaj> epp, iwlist scan?
[06:29] <bdawg54345> it downloads only as 50 kb
[06:29] <mama> anybody has ubuntu here?
[06:29] <tritium> kitty_: depends on what you did
[06:29] <tritium> mama: nearly everone
[06:29] <netsurf3> i have ndiswrapper running a belkin usbwlan and the usb keeps dying
[06:29] <tritium> everyone even
[06:30] <bdawg54345> nvr mind im dl it now
[06:30] <bdawg54345>  but if i have error installing will you help
[06:30] <kitty_> i dont realy know,  there were 2 files the same i selected one and hit the delete key
[06:30] <epp> lakcaj, says non support scanning
[06:30] <tritium> bdawg54345: I need to go soon.  Make sure you check the md5sum of the image before you burn it to CD.
[06:30] <bdawg54345> waht do u mean
[06:30] <kitty_> then there was no file atal
[06:30] <lakcaj> epp, not sure then, I haven't used wireless in some time
[06:31] <Belboz99> Hey all, How do I get Ubuntu to run my nForce 2 USB ports as USB 2.0?  Right now they are only running at like 1.0 or 1.1.
[06:31] <tritium> kitty_: you may need to rip your cds again
[06:31] <bdawg54345> tritium how do i check the md5
[06:32] <kitty_> if deleting those files was the last thing i did.. can it not just be un-done
[06:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell bdawg54345 about verify
[06:32] <tritium> bdawg54345: md5sum <filename>
[06:32] <mama> so, how does this xchat work?
[06:32] <mama> I mean...
[06:32] <bdawg54345> and i do that inn
[06:32] <cyblivious> has anyone used nvidia nforce drivers? comments?
[06:32] <mama> ...the only server I'm able to connect is this one...
[06:32] <bdawg54345> command prompt?
[06:32] <mama> what about the others in the list?
[06:32] <LinuxJones> Hey guys I've been trying to get my fonts looking better (jagged) on my new laptop running Dapper can someone offer any help ?
[06:33] <netsurf3> tritium: think you can help me? ndiswrapper wlan device on usb keeps suddenly cutting out, the device disappears and i cant remove the module
[06:33] <epp> anyone running linux on a mac laptop?
[06:33] <tritium> netsurf3: I am just now leaving.  Sorry...
[06:33] <netsurf3> ok
[06:33] <netsurf3> no worrys
[06:33] <cyblivious> is dapper stable already?
[06:33] <wastrel> no
[06:34] <akambi> apparently no cyblivious
[06:34] <kitty_> i think there called artmiss fonts. htats what i use on mine and it looks sweet enough.. there all a standard size and its clear to read
[06:34] <cyblivious> ic. thanks
[06:34] <cyblivious> was just curious since i see many users here installing dapper
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> cyblivious,  using it now. :P
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> cyblivious,  it can have issues..
[06:35] <cyblivious> how is it?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> so spare machine, testing it, bug reporting..
[06:35] <cyblivious> with what?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> if the machine dies - no big loss.
[06:35] <trappist> cyblivious: all the really smart ones and all the really dumb ones.  that is, people who know what to do when it breaks and people who think it's a good idea to install the newest shiniest thing available.
[06:36] <lakcaj> LinuxJones, go into system -> preferences -> fonts, change them all the bitstream-vera sans roman and then for font rendering select subpixel smoothing
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> cyblivious,  about 200 package updates a night. :P
[06:36] <kitty_> but i usee dapper at the moment and they dont work properly,, How do fonts make bugs,, that sed, i only changed my profile and i had to reinstall it..
[06:36] <odat> hi everyone
[06:36] <bdawg54345> where to download md5sums
[06:36] <lakcaj> LinuxJones, for terminal font, you might want to use bitstream vera mono
[06:36] <cyblivious> is there a difference with breezy?
[06:36] <hatake_kakashi> cyblivious: different kernel for example
[06:36] <odat> if i have an old pentium 3 thats running at 1.0 ghz with 256 megs of ram  would using the 686 kernel over the 386 kernel benefit me at all?
[06:36] <cyblivious> something noticable
[06:36] <hatake_kakashi> odat: yes
[06:37] <kitty_> WELL i think imm gona go rip every cd i own....AGAIN, ahh itl only take about six days each cd so i think ill be ok
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> odat: imo kernel would be somewhat slightly smaller, and a little more optimised
[06:37] <cyblivious> like maybe speed, stability or apperance and features
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> cyblivious: well, an updated kernel will show bits and pieces of that here and there
[06:38] <trappist> cyblivious: it's unstable almost by definition
[06:38] <epp> how do detect wireless interfaces?
[06:38] <cyblivious> hehehe
[06:39] <hatake_kakashi> epp: lspci
[06:39] <lakcaj> LinuxJones, any better?
[06:39] <cyblivious> did anyone have problems after installing nforce drivers from nvidia?
[06:39] <no0tic> anyone knows if ndiswrapper works on 2.6.15-15 dapper's kernel?
[06:39] <colm> !anyone
[06:39] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:39] <lakcaj> hatake_kakashi, I think he means access points
[06:40] <hatake_kakashi> lakcaj: ahh well that I wouldn't have much of a clue, I'm sure there are snooping tools around for that
[06:40] <cyblivious> ubotu: coz it doesn't pertain to anyone specific
[06:40] <ubotu> cyblivious: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:40] <cyblivious> Syntax error in line 1???
[06:41] <LinuxJones> lakcaj: no thye are still crappy looking :(
[06:41] <boguh> hi there, just installed ubuntu and updated with apt, but now I only have firefox 1.07 and mysql-server 4. am i doing something wrong?
[06:41] <no0tic> cyblivious, ubotu is a bot...
[06:41] <cyblivious> oic
[06:41] <holobyted> I have two "Apple iPod Player"s on every single file dialog I get... is there any way to remove one of them? it's kinda annoying
[06:41] <lakcaj> LinuxJones, can you post a screenshot of your font selection dialog?
[06:41] <epp> i need to install an airport extreme... its in the laptop now what?
[06:42] <no0tic> ok, I have problems with ndiswrapper1.8 on 2.6.15-15 kernel, it doesn't allow me to change frequency on the wireless nic
[06:42] <LinuxJones> lakcaj: can that go on pastebin ?
[06:42] <Exussum> Hey all - Im having a Problem with Totom - problem being it wont open ..
[06:42] <lakcaj> LinuxJones, try imageshack for screenshots
[06:42] <no0tic> what can I do? since -14 it works
[06:42] <lakcaj> hatake_kakashi, my appologies, he is trying to install an airport extreme
[06:42] <no0tic> but on -14 it doesn't wrk the cpufreq management
[06:42] <Exussum> (totem:16016): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gt k_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[06:42] <Exussum> (totem:16016): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gt k_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[06:42] <Exussum> Creating link /home/scott/.kde/socket-scott.
[06:42] <Exussum> can't create mcop directory
[06:43] <Exussum> Is what ut says
[06:43] <cyblivious> how can i upgrade from breezy to dapper when released?
[06:43] <colm> cyblivious, 'apt-get install dist upgrade' command
[06:43] <no0tic> cyblivious, replace in /etc/apt/sources.list breezy with dapper
[06:43] <colm> plus a couple of little config changes
[06:43] <cyblivious> while retaining all the previous settings
[06:44] <no0tic> cyblivious, and then do what colm said
[06:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell cyblivious about breezy
[06:44] <_jason> cyblivious: same way as updating to breezy (see ubotu's link)
[06:44] <ryman> !tell ryman about cli
[06:44] <cyblivious> thanks a lot
[06:44] <LinuxJones> lakcaj: you have to sign up for that service ?
[06:45] <hatake_kakashi> lakcaj: hmm
[06:45] <epp> i need to install an airport extreme... its in the laptop now what?
[06:45] <epp> i mean normal airport
[06:45] <hatake_kakashi> epp: check under dmesg, dmesg| tail
[06:46] <boguh> so breezy does not contain up to date software?
[06:46] <Exussum> Hey people - any idea how to Fix totem ?
[06:46] <lakcaj> LinuxJones, they seem to be having some server issues, but here's the link - should still work, no registration required:  http://www.imageshack.us/
[06:46] <_jason> boguh: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and then provides security updates
[06:47] <boguh> and so dapper is somthing like debian testing?
[06:47] <lemsx1> boguh: more like Experimental
[06:47] <lemsx1> boguh: :-) lol
[06:47] <_jason> boguh: it breaks, it's development
[06:48] <boguh> im thinking about changing to ubuntu
[06:48] <lemsx1> boguh: you are in the right path. just use Breezy
[06:49] <wastrel> i like me some ubuntu
[06:49] <netsurf3> gahhhhh i cant get ndiswrapper to load on boot it just wont work :(
[06:49] <epp> my airport card was taken out while the laptop was on. could that fry it?
[06:49] <boguh> but i dont see any advantages, my debian testing offers me the same
[06:49] <lemsx1> netsurf3: for NTFS ?
[06:49] <netsurf3> hmm
[06:49] <netsurf3> ndiswrappers for wireless devices?
[06:50] <boguh> ahhhh, but no securtity updates
[06:50] <LinuxJones> lakcaj: here you go >> http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2oc.png
[06:50] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: yes, its basically windows .dll file wrapped so that linux can use it
[06:50] <netsurf3> yeah
[06:50] <netsurf3> i cant get it to load on boot
[06:50] <holobyted> does Ubuntu offer any way to rename an iPod? can't seem to find anything on google.
[06:51] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: did it say it will load it at boot?
[06:51] <lakcaj> LinuxJones, your fonts look great imho.  Where do they not look good?  Also, I think you have to log out and back into gnome for sub-pixel rendering to take affect.
[06:51] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: i used the -m funtions
[06:51] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: also the usb support just seems to die after a while
[06:51] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: try making it verbose
[06:51] <netsurf3> how do you mean
[06:52] <dolphy> any magic trick i missed to get working XV overlay with dapper and ATI drivers ?
[06:52] <LinuxJones> lakcaj: oh let me try doing that, I see green blurry edges on the fonts on my wxga display.
[06:52] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: I presume there has to be a way to make it spit out verbose information
[06:52] <dylan_> has anybody ever experienced overheating with ubuntu?  is it the operating system's fault?  in windows, i never had the processor fan go loud
[06:53] <cappiz> someone here using lftp?
[06:53] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: you can turn off the splash on boot but other than that i dont know
[06:53] <tkup> Why did it take so long for the security updates to be available for consumption?
[06:53] <Gimpd> ok, i cant get the make_socket to bind to port 80: when i run apache2ctl start...any ideas?
[06:53] <Exussum> Hey - ive got a problem with Totem player
[06:53] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: check under the ndiswrapper to see what sort of arguments/functions are there available
[06:54] <netsurf3> there are only useful ones call
[06:54] <netsurf3> -hotplug
[06:54] <netsurf3> and -m
[06:54] <Gimpd> its so difficult to get comprehensive help on networking in ubuntu...compare that to gentoo...please, no reprisals....just my view. :)
[06:54] <lakcaj> oh man, kitty is not around - I know where his deleted files went :)
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: ok what's -m?
[06:55] <netsurf3> which regenerate hotplug information and write modprobe. respectively (i have already used -m)
[06:55] <Gimpd> its so difficult to get comprehensive help on networking in ubuntu...compare that to gentoo...please, no reprisals....just my view. :)
[06:55] <Gimpd> ok, i cant get the make_socket to bind to port 80: when i run apache2ctl start...any ideas?
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: hmm
[06:57] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: yeah......
[06:57] <Belboz99> Hey, the images coming off my scanner are coming way too slow, any ideas?
[06:57] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: there is no modprobe.conf though
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: that doesn't seem to be muchof a help
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> much of*
[06:58] <Exussum> Con some one please help me ?
[06:58] <Belboz99> My scanner is finished with the image in less than 20 seconds, but the software doesn't recieve it for another 5 minutes
[06:58] <francois> ola
[06:58] <slide> Im tryong to apt-get install a lot of packages but it just spits out dependencies that are unmet, shouldnt it install those too?
[06:59] <netsurf3> Exussum: i am no good with totem sorrt
[06:59] <netsurf3> *sorry
[06:59] <Exussum> net np
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: I think checking with google may help
[07:00] <Exussum> netsurf - What else can play Vids ?
[07:00] <netsurf3> i use mplayer
[07:00] <pianoboy333> Does anyone here use a DVI digital video cable to hook up their monitor? I'm having some difficulty.
[07:00] <pianoboy333> Exussum: I use totem
[07:00] <netsurf3> it can even run windows media files
[07:00] <WezlFawlty> lakcaj where? i gotta know
[07:01] <colm> pianoboy333, yes, I use DVI to lcd.  what probs are you having?
[07:01] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: i had a google run and found nothing close to useful :(
[07:01] <lakcaj> WezlFawlty, /home/username/.Trash
[07:01] <moodog> Afternoon all.
[07:01] <WezlFawlty> makes sense, now that youve said it
[07:02] <pianoboy333> colm: Is there anyway to fix my problem where the ubuntu loading screen, and safemode terminal is distorted?
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> netsurf3: blah.. well my knowledge with ndiswrapper is somewhat limited
[07:02] <netsurf3> lol
[07:02] <Exussum> Piano - i cant use totem as it wont work ..
[07:03] <wastrel> i don't know why everyone loves totem so much
[07:03] <wastrel> it's never worked well for me
[07:03] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: strange that even debian could run the ndis on boot though
[07:03] <lakcaj> mplayer and vlc are where it's at
[07:03] <pianoboy333> Exussum: Mine didn't either, I got a different version--hold on
[07:03] <colm> pianoboy333, I don't see problems like that.  sounds like your monitor doesn't like the modeshift.  try selecting the mode manually using the monitor's control panel
[07:03] <pianoboy333> colm: but once I get into ubuntu, it's fine
[07:05] <LinuxJones> lakcaj: they still look jagged to me I wonder if it's something in the xorg.conf file ?
[07:05] <lilgg> Hello is there a "solution" about runnin the livecd on a laptop?(Hotplus known issue).
[07:05] <wastrel> i've heard that totem-xine works better than totem-gstreamer
[07:05] <wastrel> fwiw
[07:06] <clever`out> is there a way to get data from a mysql database to go right into openoffice calc?
[07:06] <clever`out> or do i have to export to cvs then load that
[07:07] <pianoboy333> colm: I have a DELL 1905FP lcd monitor, do you want to see my xorg.conf file?
[07:07] <pianoboy333> colm: would that do anything?
[07:07] <xerox_> Howdy!
[07:08] <xerox_> What is the #ubuntu preferred e-mail client program?  :-)
[07:08] <Exussum> Evolution i think
[07:08] <pianoboy333> xerox_, thunderbird is good :-) that's made by mozilla
[07:08] <Exussum> i use thuderbird as well
[07:08] <wastrel> <3 tbird
[07:08] <Jhair> xerox_: I can only speak for myself: gnus
[07:09] <Exussum> <3 mozilla - makers of firefox and Thunderbird :D
[07:09] <xerox_> Hehe, I'm used to it too, I was wondering if there are good alternatives out there.
[07:09] <wastrel> there's no one standard afaik - evo is the default for gnome, of course
[07:09] <ablomen> thunderbird is good, but i find evolution better, more... complete
[07:09] <xerox_> Thanks for the hits.
[07:09] <Exussum> i USED to use incredimail - tho i think that could be windows only
[07:09] <xerox_> hints, even.
[07:09] <wastrel> there's also sylpheed and balsa if you're shopping around
[07:10] <wastrel> and whatever they use in kde-land
[07:10] <netsurf3> hatake_kakashi: hmm i have it loading on boot but i need the wlan0 to work with ifupdown
[07:10] <lilgg> Hello is there a "solution" about runnin the livecd on a laptop?(Hotplugs known issue). anyone?:/
[07:11] <instabin> how do i add space to my lvm
[07:11] <AstralJava> clever`out: Not sure, but sounds like ODBC/JDBC is what you're looking for. Use File | Wizards... menu and create a connection thru Address Data Source...
[07:11] <instabin> !lvm
[07:11] <ubotu> hmm... lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[07:11] <instabin> how do i ad a hard dirive to my lvm partiion
[07:13] <Exussum> How can i set my defalt Player not to be Totem ?
[07:13] <_jason> Exussum: in gnome?
[07:13] <olicat> i'm writing a shell script to download and build a load of stuff from sources, but the build machines will change from time to time, ie i don't know all deps will be there beforehand
[07:13] <Exussum> Yea
[07:13] <olicat> is there a way to tell the script to stop running if the ./configure fails something?
[07:13] <_jason> Exussum: just right click on a file, click properties, and go to open with
[07:13] <ablomen> btw about games, does anyone know a good free game next to et, freecol and openttd? (i know openttd isnt all free but still)
[07:13] <kwiat> How can i archieve that nautilus automatically displays the folder.jpg as the icon of the folder thats containing that file (like in windowsXP)?
[07:14] <lemsx1> kwiat: find in the theme you are using where is the folder icon and replace it with your own
[07:14] <lemsx1> kwiat: make sure you convert to PNG
[07:14] <pianoboy333> Is there anyway to fix my DVI (digital video) problem where the ubuntu loadingscreen, and safemode terminal is distorted? It's fine when I get into ubuntu, the login screen is fine too.
[07:15] <lemsx1> kwiat: http://art.gnome.org
[07:15] <holobyted> how can I change a partition's label? (fat32)
[07:15] <kwiat> lemsxl you probably misunderstood me?
[07:15] <ablomen> hollywoodstar, cfdisk does the job, theres a gnome tool too
[07:16] <kwiat> lemsxl each folder should have his individual folder icon based on its contained *.jpg
[07:16] <ablomen> holobyted,  cfdisk does the job, theres a gnome tool too
[07:16] <_jason> kwiat: I haven't seen a way to do that, try #gnome too
[07:16] <holobyted> what's the gnome tool called? and, just checking... they don't involve a format, do they?
[07:16] <kwiat> _jason thank you
[07:17] <wastrel> i changed the hostname of my computer
[07:17] <mircea> hey
[07:17] <ablomen> holobyted, system => administration => disks
[07:17] <_jason> mircea: hello
[07:18] <Exussum> How can i use mplayer - i isnatlled it but it wont start up :S
[07:18] <holobyted> that tool doesn't let me change labels
[07:18] <_jason> Exussum: do you get errors if you try it in a terminal?
[07:18] <ablomen> holobyted, ok than i dont know, google?
[07:18] <kwiat> _jason perhaps i could realize it with a script?
[07:18] <Cryptid> Hi, Can i know what is Hibernate mean in the Logout Screen??? how is it diffrent from others and is it usefull????
[07:19] <pianoboy333> Is there anyway to fix my DVI (digital video) problem where the ubuntu loadingscreen, and safemode terminal is distorted? It's fine when I get into ubuntu, the login screen is fine too.
[07:19] <kwiat> _jason because im allowed to set individual folder icons manually
[07:19] <Belboz99> Anyone know why scanning is painfully slow?
[07:19] <Exussum> _jason - no it comes up with a list of options - but obviosuly i dont have to JUST use in the terminal ?
[07:19] <ablomen> Cryptid, its like stand-by
[07:19] <_jason> kwiat: I suppose you could do that, just run a script and set the corresponding icon
[07:19] <_jason> Exussum: do 'mplayer /path/to/moviefile'
[07:20] <kwiat> _jason do you possibly know what kind of file to create or edit who changes this attribute?
[07:20] <instabin> is there a program like dvd shrink for linux
[07:20] <_jason> kwiat: not offhand
[07:20] <colm> pianoboy333, sorry I was afk.  The problem is most likely with your monitor, not your setup
[07:21] <kwiat> _jason do you have an idea howi could find that out?
[07:21] <NCLife> i want to have azureus started at startup, so i added this command to admin>sessions>startup programms, "~/programms/azureus/azureus" but it didnt work..
[07:21] <_jason> kwiat: google :)
[07:21] <instabin> !dvdshrink
[07:21] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, instabin
[07:21] <pianoboy333> colm: I can't adjust my image settings from the monitor menu tho.
[07:21] <Cryptid> ablomen, hmm i never used stanby in windows so i dont know what it is actually used for,,, can u explain its uses does it reduce the power comsumtion or something???
[07:21] <Exussum> _jason - it still wont play "cant open lilo"
[07:22] <kwiat> _jason i already tried that *sad
[07:22] <_jason> Exussum: lilo huh, one sec
[07:22] <itsmike> must go now 1 alienware area51m 5700 notebook price 550, 1 toshiba M70-DL3 Centrino based laptop $650.  Message me on msn at mcsltd@telusmail.net or aim at itscrazyguymike if interested and wanting to buy! DO NOT MESSAGE OTHERWISE!
[07:22] <NCLife> i was thinking, maybe it needs to be run on a terminal? if so, how could i do to open a terminal automaticly at startup and run azureus?
[07:22] <_jason> itsmike: don't do that here!
[07:22] <ablomen> Cryptid, yeah something like that, it switches off your harddisk etc, isnt realy great or something but keeps the energy bill a litle lower
[07:23] <wastrel> i'm spamming you, please don't spam me!
[07:23] <Jhair> ignore itsmike
[07:23] <slide> How can i see if a program (file in init.d) is actualyl going to be run on boot?
[07:24] <Cryptid> ablomen, oh good thats just what i wanted,,, ne ways does it boot OS faster when u hibernate??
[07:24] <_jason> Exussum: I don't know what lilo is... what does 'mplayer -ao null /path/to/moviefile' do?
[07:24] <kwiat> _jason lilo is a boot manager
[07:24] <ablomen> Cryptid, sort off, i wouldnt recomend it, just switch your pc of if you arnt using it ;)
[07:24] <kwiat> _jason it was commonly used by SuSE
[07:24] <_jason> kwiat: right but he is getting a lilo error starting up mplayer
[07:24] <Bardiel> how can i repair grub?
[07:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell Bardiel about grub
[07:25] <Bardiel> its somehow broken, i need to just re-install it, so how?
[07:25] <_jason> Bardiel: ubotu sent you some info
[07:25] <Exussum> Lol im usuing GRUB - so its not going to be that
[07:25] <kwiat> _jason that sounds crazy
[07:25] <Bardiel> i don't want ubotu, i want a human being
[07:25] <Exussum> actually nvm - Totem works - How can i make it play Real media ?
[07:25] <Cryptid> ablomen, hehe i will try it out first and then check which is better :-)
[07:26] <_jason> Bardiel: read what he sent you.  Do you want me to just copy and pasate it for you?
[07:26] <_jason> paste even
[07:26] <ablomen> Cryptid, sure its there to use it ;
[07:26] <ablomen> ;)
[07:26] <_jason> Exussum: w32codecs and totem-xine
[07:28] <Jhair> slide: try update-rc.d -n <package> defaults
[07:28] <slide> ty
[07:28] <gcurtis> I've switched from FC3 to Ubuntu.  I don't know why, but I "make" won't work, althought ./configure does!
[07:28] <Jhair> slide: if you get System startup links for <package> already exist.
[07:28] <_jason> gcurtis: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:29] <Jhair> slide: your program will run on boot
[07:29] <slide> k
[07:29] <bozzu> i share my homedir with samba. it works, but i have two questions: is there something that notify connection attempts? and how can i hide/don't share the hidden file with samba?
[07:29] <wastrel> \
[07:30] <_jason> kwiat: if you can't find the file just give a folder some custom icon with a strange name and then grep ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 for the name, and if it's not there grep all the hidden directories in ~ :)
[07:30] <ablomen> bozzu, you can hide files by changing the permissions so only you can see them
[07:30] <Bardiel> _jason: those directions don't work
[07:30] <mqueiros> Has anyone been hable to install ubuntu in a laptop with an ATI Mobility X700 ?
[07:30] <Bardiel> can i have human support now?
[07:31] <benanne> Hello. I want to create a vmware image for ruby on rails development, to use on college PCs which have vmware player installed. Would a stripped ubuntu fit on a 512 MB usb stick, or failing that an 1 GB one? with the necessary goodies like mysql, radrails etc thrown in? I'm guessing no, but you never know :)
[07:31] <kwiat> _jason nice idea! thank you very much
[07:31] <gcurtis> _jason, it says I have the latest version
[07:31] <_jason> !doesn't work
[07:31] <ubotu> [doesn't work]  something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[07:31] <Bardiel> okay, i'll be more specific
[07:31] <Bardiel> those directions do nothing
[07:31] <Bardiel> at all
[07:32] <Gimpd>     umm...can someone please help me gettin httpd started? i'd managed to get it to work on gentoo...cause the .conf file was kinda detailed...
[07:32] <gcurtis> _jason, I've just noticed I have a configure error.  I'll address that first
[07:32] <gcurtis> Thanks _jason
[07:32] <bozzu> ablomen, i know that, but i don't want to see the dot.files in my homedir when accessing that dir with a windows computer. i use user security so changing standard permission does not work i think
[07:32] <Gimpd> no such luck with ubuntu...any help?? or directions where i can find some? please? :)
[07:33] <lucaas> !xgl
[07:33] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:33] <ablomen> bozzu, yeah thats right, maybe you should try the #samba room or something
[07:34] <wastrel> Bardiel:  what error are you getting
[07:34] <Bardiel> im not getting an error
[07:34] <Bardiel> im getting nothing
[07:34] <wastrel> so your computer wont' boot?
[07:34] <Gimpd> umm...can any one help please? i did mention the problem a moment ago...
[07:34] <Bardiel> it boots into the cd rescue mode
[07:34] <Bardiel> is there a command i can enter to just restore the windows MBR?
[07:34] <ToyKeeper> Any idea why root would su to the primary user periodically?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8786
[07:34] <_jason> Bardiel: did you read the link about recovering grub after installing windows?
[07:35] <Gimpd> !httpd
[07:35] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gimpd
[07:35] <Bardiel> _jason: that is the one that did not work
[07:35] <Gimpd> !apache
[07:35] <ubotu> I heard apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[07:35] <ToyKeeper> I keep seeing log entries I can't account for, where root su's to my user twice, about 30 seconds apart.  I haven't been able to find any cron jobs which do this.
[07:36] <_jason> Bardiel: you can restore windows mbr with the windows install disk and entering 'fixmbr' in recovery console, but then you won't be able to use linux
[07:36] <Cryptid> How do i increase the refresh RATE OF MY MONITOR FROM DEFAULT OG 60 HZ to 85 Hz ????
[07:37] <Bardiel> _jason: i need my system to boot, regardless of which os i can use
[07:37] <Bardiel> and grub won't install
[07:37] <hatake_kakashi> Bardiel: you should install windows first and then let grub work its magic
[07:37] <Bardiel> i did
[07:37] <Bardiel> grub broke itself
[07:38] <Bardiel> i already had both windows and linux working fine
[07:38] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[07:38] <ablomen> Bardiel, you can try lilo
[07:38] <anna> hi guys, would someone help me to install the java plugin for firefox?
[07:38] <Gimpd> _jason, where can i find help for apache other than on help.ubuntu.com? the page there doesnt help much with the problem?
[07:38] <Bardiel> lilo won't install either
[07:38] <Bardiel> and that super grub repair disk didn't work
[07:38] <hatake_kakashi> !tell anna about java
[07:38] <_jason> Bardiel: you tried using a livecd?
[07:38] <ktogias> Hi, I have installed (for test) Dapper flight 3 on my laptop. I have some issues with X.org not probing the correct HorizSync and VertRefresh of the lcd display and a netgear usb wireless network adapter that works with ndiswrapper under breezy, but not under dapper... Is there any place I sould provide this information as a bug report for the developers?
[07:38] <_jason> Gimpd: try ubuntuforums.org and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:39] <_jason> Gimpd: there is also a mailing list lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/
[07:39] <maria> hey, my update manager says i have 7 updates available, but i cant update because it said it cant get an exclusive lock, so i tried rebooting and it still says the same thing
[07:40] <_jason> maria: do you happen to have synaptic open?
[07:40] <amphi> Bardiel: grub 'broke itself'???
[07:40] <maria> i checked my processes to see if apt-get is running, and it isnt
[07:40] <maria> _jason: no i dont
[07:40] <ablomen> maria, have you tried apt-get upgrade?
[07:40] <maria> ablomen : no i havent
[07:40] <gnomefreak> maria: are you running updates?
[07:41] <anna> hatake_kakashi: arigatou ;)
[07:41] <maria> no im not
[07:41] <maria> maria@ubuntu:~$ apt-get upgrade
[07:41] <maria> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:41] <maria> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:41] <maria> maria@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:41] <maria> Password:
[07:41] <maria> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:41] <ablomen> maria, you should try that in your terminal (sudo apt-get upgrade) i had some problems with the updater problem 2
[07:41] <maria> thats the error i got
[07:41] <hatake_kakashi> anna: iie
[07:41] <anna> hatake_kakashi are you fan of naruto?
[07:41] <anna> ^^
[07:41] <wastrel> sudo
[07:41] <hatake_kakashi> anna: fan of the anime yes, but not a fan of that main character in that anime
[07:41] <amphi> maria: do sudo dpkg --configure -a (as it told you)
[07:41] <_jason> maria: in the future please use a pastebin
[07:42] <hatake_kakashi> !tell maria about pastebin
[07:42] <gnomefreak> maria: run sudo apt-get update and than try sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:42] <Gimpd> !7z
[07:42] <ubotu> Gimpd: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:42] <maria> _jason : whats a pastebin
[07:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell maria about pastebin
[07:42] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[07:42] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:42] <hatake_kakashi> maria: check the pm from ubotu
[07:42] <Sonobana> maria: try sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:42] <Cryptid> I am having Sound Problem with Ubuntu 5.10 on my Intel 915GAV motherboard please Help me!!
[07:42] <amphi> maria: run the command apt-get gave you _before_ doing apt-get update/upgrade
[07:43] <crimsun> !tell Cryptid about ask
[07:43] <anna> hatake_kakashi that makes sense.. in that case youd probaply call yourself naruto instead of hatake ^^
[07:43] <_jason> crimsun: you must have a hilight for 'sound problem' :)
[07:43] <amphi> maria: note that it is _not_ dpkg --reconfigure -a, but dpkg --configure -a
[07:43] <maria> hey thanks guys, it worked
[07:43] <hatake_kakashi> anna: blah.. I'd much prefer hatake
[07:43] <maria> :)
[07:44] <syd_> any idea how to get a broadcom wlan card up on breezy badger?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> amphi: i have had that same issue as her and sudo apt-get update has fixed it ;)
[07:44] <holobyted> how can I stop Ubuntu from automounting a specified partition?
[07:44] <Cryptid> crimsun, how much more details u want i gave my Mobo model and i said that i am having sound problems on it (unable to hear any sound)
[07:44] <syd_> just delete that line in /etc/fstab
[07:44] <ablomen> holobyted, adding noauto in fstab
[07:45] <crimsun> Cryptid: lspci -v ; cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[07:45] <crimsun> !tell Cryptid about pastebin
[07:45] <Cryptid> crimsun, i dont mean to be rude just need a solution to my problem
[07:45] <anna> hatake_kakashi what book is he reading in almost every episode? *haha
[07:45] <maria> now who wants to answer another question :) im using onboard tnt2 graphics, but i also have a trident 3d image 9750 agp card with 4 megs ram on it, what do you think will be faster for video playback, because right now video playback is too slow to watch
[07:45] <anna> ecchi
[07:45] <crimsun> maria: the tnt2
[07:45] <amphi> gnomefreak: I have always had to run dpkg --configure -a on debian after interrupting a package install
[07:45] <hatake_kakashi> anna: adult stuff :P nothing wrong with that heh
[07:46] <maria> crimsun : thanks :) less work for me
[07:46] <lakcaj> mplayer -cache 256 http://195.137.248.36:8020
[07:46] <hatake_kakashi> anna: btw whats your favourite character in naruto?
[07:46] <holobyted> does this look okay to you? fstab snip: /dev/sdd1 none auto noauto 0 0
[07:46] <amphi> holobyted: no
[07:46] <amphi> holobyted: man 5 fstab
[07:46] <hatake_kakashi> holobyted: no
[07:46] <apakatt> is it possible to join multiple channels with password in xchat-gnome, it stopps to join after the first password protected channel
[07:47] <ablomen> holobyted, remove the auto and dont use spaces but ,
[07:47] <holobyted> my fstab file is tab-delimited.. following the fields on the file itself
[07:47] <gnomefreak> i cant remember a time i ever ran that command but i have had very minamin issues with debiana dn deb based distos
[07:47] <ablomen> holobyted, /dev/sdd1 /media/mountpoint noauto 0 0 | something like that
[07:48] <holobyted> filesystem | mount | type | options | dump | pass
[07:48] <anna> hatake_kakashi hm.. thats hard to decide... but i think its naruto, because hes so strongwilled (does this word exist? sorr, im from germany, my english isnt that good)
[07:48] <Cryptid> crimsun, i did what u asked me to please check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8787
[07:48] <ablomen> holobyted, /dev/sdd1 /media/mountpoint the_fs_type noauto 0 0 | sorry something like that
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> anna: heh
[07:48] <anna> hatake_kakashi but kakashi is kind of cool too ^^
[07:48] <cfk> is there a way to generate a preseed partman-auto/expert_recipe_file from an existing setup?
[07:49] <lemsx1> brb
[07:49] <holobyted> that's what I have... only "none" in place of the mount point, since I don't want it mounted
[07:49] <ablomen> holobyted, if you dont want it mounted, why is it in your fstab...?
[07:49] <amphi> holobyted: so wtf is it in fstab?
[07:50] <crimsun> Cryptid: unmute 'Center', 'Surround', and 'Front'
[07:50] <holobyted> I asked you guys how to stop it from being automounted, you told me to use fstab
[07:50] <anna> hatake_kakashi hm, i think i allready installed java but firefox complains all the time that it lacks of the plugin
[07:50] <crimsun> Cryptid: and mute 'Front Mic'
[07:50] <amphi> holobyted: if you mean you don't want it automounted at boot, put 'noauto' in the options
[07:50] <Cryptid> crimsun, k will do that
[07:50] <Cwiiis> Are there any how-tos around on getting dapper/xgl/compiz working?
[07:50] <ablomen> holobyted, and if you dont want it at all, youst delete the line in fstab
[07:51] <amphi> holobyted: man 5 fstab explains this
[07:51] <holobyted> I don't want it automounted at all.. it's the iPod's boot partition, don't want it. and if I delete the line, it gets automounted as soon as I connect the iPod.
[07:51] <crimsun> Cwiiis: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-February/000079.html
[07:52] <Cwiiis> crimsun: Thanks... Doing that and it doesn't seem to work for me :( Oh well...
[07:52] <crimsun> Cwiiis: is your graphics driver supported?
[07:52] <poningru> hey guys mounting a file is -o right?
[07:52] <amphi> holobyted: ah... 'noauto' prevents the device being mount by mount -a
[07:52] <hatake_kakashi> anna: you did not link the plugin to it
[07:52] <amphi> holobyted: something else is mounting your ipod, adding it to fstab will not help IMHO
[07:53] <Cryptid> crimsun, when do i unmute them from "alsamixer"???
[07:53] <holobyted> do I need to somehow blacklist the partition in the hotplug conf file or something like that?
[07:53] <crimsun> Cryptid: "when"?
[07:53] <poningru> hmm nm
[07:53] <hatake_kakashi> poningru: you mean mounting an iso image?
[07:53] <amphi> holobyted: you need to find out wtf is mounting it first
[07:53] <poningru> yeah
[07:53] <lsuactiafner> if both my linux pcs have an ipv4 and ipv6 ip address, are transfers between them by default ipv6?
[07:53] <poningru> how would you do that?
[07:53] <Cwiiis> crimsun: Yup, nvidia
[07:53] <Cwiiis> glx seems to work fine with normal X
[07:53] <crimsun> Cwiiis: should work without a problem if you enable the glxcomposite option
[07:54] <akp> howdy
[07:54] <trappist> how does one choose a sound card on the command line without alsaconf?
[07:54] <anna> hatake_kakashi erm, yes.. im still new to linux and i have no clue how to link it
[07:54] <Cryptid> crimsun, u wanted me to mute and unmute few things rite where do i do it from??
[07:54] <Cwiiis> crimsun: Do I need to enable composite? I thought Xgl provided that?
[07:54] <crimsun> Cryptid: yes, 'm' in alsamixer
[07:54] <dylan_> can Free Software be sold for a price?
[07:55] <Jhair> dylan_: sure
[07:55] <dylan_> Jhair, okay, so it is not like "freeware"
[07:55] <crimsun> trappist: be more specific?
[07:55] <akp> anyone have experience configuring ubuntu for dual head support?
[07:55] <lsuactiafner> if both my linux pcs have an ipv4 and ipv6 ip address, are transfers between them by default ipv6?
[07:56] <hatake_kakashi> anna: check the section under that url for 'Java on Mozilla Firefox'
[07:56] <wastrel> akp:  it really depends on what videocard & driver you're using
[07:56] <amphi> dylan_: as the slogan hath it, "It's not the sw that's free, it's you" ;)
[07:56] <Cryptid> crimsun, thanx man u solved my problem
[07:56] <trappist> crimsun: I have an onboard cmedia card and a pci audigy.  ubuntu in its infinite wisdom has chosen my onboard card, but there are no speakers plugged into it, so I'd like to use my audigy.
[07:56] <crimsun> trappist: are you using breezy or dapper?
[07:57] <crimsun> Cryptid: np
[07:57] <trappist> crimsun: dapper
[07:57] <anna> hatake_kakashi i allready did that, but i dont understand it:/
[07:57] <akp> i have an ati.   I've found another with the same laptop who did it -- I'm just finding it a bit obtuse.  Actually, for now I'd be satisified if I could get ubuntu to use the external port rather than the laptop screen.
[07:57] <lsuactiafner> trappist : you disable the onboard card in your bios dude
[07:57] <crimsun> trappist: asoundconf set defaults.pcm.card string
[07:57] <hatake_kakashi> anna: you don't understand the command? or did it not work?
[07:57] <trappist> lsuactiafner: I'm going to be disappointed if that's the solution.  dude.
[07:57] <lsuactiafner> trappist : when you boot up press delete to enter the bios settings and look around to disable somethign sound related
[07:57] <crimsun> trappist: where string is the name in brackets from /proc/asound/cards
[07:57] <skazi> What does everyone here think of the stability of Ubuntu? 1-10 ? i give it 8
[07:58] <lsuactiafner> three is another one but its too much effort
[07:58] <lsuactiafner> when you can just use the bios
[07:58] <IdleOne> 8.5
[07:58] <trappist> crimsun: that takes immediate effect or it does the /etc/mod* thing?
[07:58] <crimsun> trappist: it's immediate. You need to restart ALSA apps.
[07:58] <wastrel> akp: i'm using  ibm thinkpad / ati 9600 / breezy / xorg / fglrx    i ran fglrxconfig and got video mirroring set up so i can do presentations
[07:58] <trappist> awesome
[07:58] <trappist> ablomen: please don't do that
[07:58] <lsuactiafner> are nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?
[07:59] <akp> wastrel_ I hadn't seen that utility.  I suppose I should run it with sudo, yes.
[07:59] <wastrel> akp:  recommend backing up your existing xorg.conf before trying
[07:59] <civ> excuse me for my poor english :p somebody know how I can configure my sound server (alsa) correcty? the problem is what the volume of each application are not independet, i.e, if i put down the vol in xmms it also put down the vol y mplayer, how can I solve it?
[07:59] <lsuactiafner> wastrel : what card do you have?
[07:59] <ablomen> trappist, sorry pretty new to irc wasnt my intention
[07:59] <crimsun> civ: use softvol pcm plugin for alsa-lib on a per-application basis
[07:59] <wastrel> lsuactiafner:  ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[07:59] <lsuactiafner> civ : you can use * and / in mplayer for volume adjustments
[08:00] <akp> wastrel_ definitely -- I have several.  :)
[08:00] <skazii> IdleOne: wich one you say is most stable?
[08:01] <anna> hatake_kakashi oh sorry, i was wrong.. ill read the page again..
[08:01] <trappist> crimsun: that command seemed to run fine, and I doublechecked my "string", but alsa apps return a string of errors beginning with :ALSA lib confmisc.c:1107:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.ctl.card'
[08:02] <civ> ok, but if i put down the xmms vol it also put down mplayer... buh xD !
[08:02] <yaaar> hey guys, how can i resume a torrent that was downloading after i close bittorrent? i have a 2GB file downloading, but I need to reboot the machine
[08:02] <IdleOne> skazii:  there are no real stable distro's because they are always being developed. thats why I gave an 8.5 to ubuntu
[08:02] <trappist> yaaar: it happens automatically
[08:02] <colm> woo!  krita 1.5beta has CMYK!  that should put a cat amongst the pigeons for people looking for reasons not to adopt linux.
[08:02] <skazii> Oki
[08:02] <IdleOne> skazii:  #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place to talk about this
[08:02] <yaaar> trappist: ?
[08:02] <civ> crimsun, can You give me some more info, i dont understand you...
[08:03] <hatake_kakashi> anna: ok
[08:03] <trappist> yaaar: just do what you did the first time to download the torrent.  it will find the existing file, check its integrity, and resume the download.
[08:03] <TokenBad> is there a text editor for linux that lets you use macros?
[08:03] <yaaar> trappist: oh, ok, so go back to the website i found it at and click it again?
[08:03] <trappist> TokenBad: vim
[08:03] <colm> TokenBad, gvim, emacs
[08:03] <Jhair> TokenBad: emacs
[08:03] <trappist> yaaar: yes
[08:03] <akp> TokenBad_ emacs -- in X or commandline.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[08:03] <crimsun> civ: tell mplayer to use a software volume
[08:03] <TokenBad> I want alot of lines removed from a txt file
[08:03] <TokenBad> all the lines start with the same thing
[08:04] <OmegaAlpha> anyone familiar with a "opengl-update ati" command
[08:04] <yaaar> trappist: where does it put those files? like, say i decide halfway through that i don't really want one, where would i go to remove it?
[08:04] <crimsun> civ: if you use the gui, you can set it in the audio options
[08:04] <trappist> yaaar: it depends on what client you use, but generally it asks you where you want to put it.
[08:04] <wastrel> TokenBad:  grep -v "^foo" file.txt > file1.txt
[08:04] <colm> TokenBad, gvim is what i'd use
[08:04] <crimsun> trappist: paste ~/.asoundrc* onto pastebin
[08:04] <Jhair> TokenBad: probably grep -v could do it without an editor?
[08:04] <civ> ok crimsun , thank y, ill config it
[08:04] <yaaar> trappist: ok, cool, thanks
[08:05] <colm> ah, good old grep of course!
[08:05] <TokenBad> but how would I remove the hole line
[08:05] <Jhair> TokenBad: grep -v will remove it for you
[08:05] <trappist> crimsun: .asoundrc includes .asoundrc.asoundconf, where only one line isn't commented: !defaults.pcm.card SB0090
[08:05] <ratley> okay, i'm afraid this is a dapper question, but...
[08:05] <anna> hatake_kakashi well.. there is a very long command that runs through a couple of lines.. do i have to paste it all at once or should i paste it line by line?
[08:05] <ratley> my usb devices have disappeared
[08:05] <TokenBad> I don't understand
[08:06] <crimsun> trappist: pastebin /proc/asound/cards
[08:06] <ratley> could it be udev related?
[08:06] <akp> anyone know how to get ubuntu breezy to automatically bring up ath0 then eth0 but not both?  I.e., If no wireless, then try wired?
[08:07] <trappist> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8788
[08:07] <TokenBad> wastrel, grep -v "^foo" the foo part would be the part I am looking for in the line and it would then remove that full line?
[08:07] <crimsun> trappist: you didn't use the correct string
[08:07] <hatake_kakashi> anna: there is only one command that requires two lines, and that's at the 3rd part of that code bit
[08:07] <Nitro88> hi all
[08:08] <wastrel> TokenBad:  yes, grep -v  prints lines that don't contain the pattern.  the pattern "^foo"  searches for "foo" at the beginning (^) of a line
[08:08] <Nitro88> i've got a problem with Amsn
[08:08] <crimsun> trappist: your /proc/asound/cards lists two names (strings): "CMI8738MC6" and "Audigy"
[08:08] <Nitro88> can any help me?
[08:08] <Jhair> TokenBad: try it
[08:08] <trappist> crimsun: ah I was using the one in brackets
[08:08] <crimsun> trappist: the ones I named _are_ the ones in brackets
[08:08] <trappist> because somebody told me to :)
[08:08] <anna> hatake_kakashi thank you, ill try gain ^^
[08:08] <trappist> oh THOSE brackets
[08:09] <ratley> what modules should be loaded for usb?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Nitro88: if you tell us the problem you are having when someone knows they will answer you
[08:09] <Nitro88> there's any?
[08:09] <Nitro88> ok
[08:09] <trappist> crimsun: works, thanks.  does this constitute an excuse to reconsider packaging alsaconf?
[08:09] <akp> wastrel: I just installed flgrx -- where does it put the control panel to configure it?
[08:09] <Nitro88> i've just downloaded
[08:09] <Nitro88> Amsn
[08:09] <crimsun> trappist: no. alsaconf doesn't do what asoundconf does.
[08:09] <Nitro88> but is very ugly
[08:09] <hatake_kakashi> !enter
[08:09] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:10] <Nitro88> how to get beautiful fonts?
[08:10] <wastrel> akp i don't know of any control panel, fglrxconfig is a command line program
[08:10] <trappist> crimsun: true, but I could have done this with alsaconf and its nice ncurses menu.
[08:10] <anna> hatake_kakashi : thats odd, nothing happened.. it only sais "file exists"
[08:10] <crimsun> trappist: or you could have done this from GNOME's System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card
[08:10] <akp> ok -- never mind.  it didn't really download -- I had to update my package list.  Weird.
[08:11] <trappist> crimsun: except I don't use gnome and kde let me choose from among something higher level than a card, and I couldn't do it with their interface
[08:11] <crimsun> trappist: allow me to suggest that you bribe Kubuntu developers into using asoundconf, then.
[08:11] <hatake_kakashi> anna: what was the last line you typed?
[08:12] <crimsun> regardless, alsaconf is deprecated and serves a purpose that's virtually a non-issue in Ubuntu.
[08:12] <Spec> Is there anyone here planning on attending FOSE, if so, are you doing so to represent the goodness of Ubuntu?
[08:12] <anna> hatake_kakashi sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[08:12] <trappist> crimsun: will do.  but it sure would be nice for us console junkies to have something to use without having to look names up in /proc etc.
[08:12] <crimsun> trappist: and alsaconf is not the answer you seek
[08:13] <wastrel> what's fose
[08:13] <hatake_kakashi> anna: I mean the first time when you did that ln -s ?
[08:13] <yanimax> what application do you suggest to use to read newsfroups on gnome ?
[08:13] <crimsun> yanimax: pan
[08:13] <Nitro88> any know how to get better AMSN 0.95?
[08:13] <trappist> crimsun: it served me well for years.  I totally understand the objections to it, but it shouldn't be too hard to replace, I'd think, if we hate it so much.
[08:13] <Spec> washington dc, government + technology convention, one of the biggest.
[08:13] <TokenBad> thanks guys
[08:13] <TokenBad> that worked great
[08:13] <bDerrly> any dapper users getting an error about not being able to open /usr/share/X11/rgb when trying to run Xgl?
[08:13] <wastrel> doesn't gaim have an msn plugin?
[08:13] <crimsun> trappist: then just extend asoundconf to spit out /proc/asound/card values for you
[08:13] <anna> hatake_kakashi sorry, i dont remember :(
[08:14] <crimsun> cards, rather
[08:14] <anna> hatake_kakashi is there a way to find out, what version of java im using?
[08:14] <trappist> crimsun: well by golly it seems it's python.  I can live without python but I might just be able to manage that.
[08:14] <Nitro88> yes wastrel
[08:14] <hatake_kakashi> anna: ok try this, ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[08:14] <Nitro88> but AMsn is better about configuration
[08:15] <trappist> or maybe I could just port it to ruby ;)
[08:15] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know the command  to update opengl libraries
[08:15] <hatake_kakashi> anna: err when you installed it, it will tell you which version.. or dpkg --list| grep java
[08:15] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: depends what opengl libraries you use.  I update them by updating my nvidia drivers.
[08:15] <instabin> is there a program like dvd shrink for linux
[08:16] <shanonx> Ok I need some intall help, I just tried to install ubuntu, and got everything correctly installed but when I booted it gave me an error and said that my X server was configured incorrectly and took me to the login prompt..... how can i configure x server to work properly?
[08:16] <hatake_kakashi> instabin: google for videohelp
[08:16] <instabin> thanks
[08:16] <OmegaAlpha> trappist, thanks whats the command to do that then?
[08:16] <hatake_kakashi> instabin: videohelp is a site btw
[08:16] <anna> hatake_kakashi there a quite a few files listed in the folder ..
[08:16] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: you could try sudo apt-get install nvidia-common, but I get mine from nvidia.com
[08:17] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: sorry, nvidia-glx not nvidia-common
[08:17] <foampeace> is it worth it to recompile the kernel?
[08:17] <foampeace> !ubotu kernel
[08:17] <hatake_kakashi> anna: ok ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/| grep java
[08:17] <trappist> foampeace: for what purpose?
[08:17] <hatake_kakashi> foampeace: why?
[08:18] <foampeace> I wonder if it might be better to compile it yourself for optimization
[08:18] <OmegaAlpha> trappist, thanks. im trying to solve this ATI GLX extension missing problem i have for 3d acc.
[08:18] <anna> hatake_kakashi okay, it sais the following: libjavaplugin_oji.so
[08:18] <hatake_kakashi> foampeace: you would, but there would be things that would break here and there
[08:18] <anna>  libjavaplugin.so
[08:19] <cfk> where can i get dapper-server ?
[08:19] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: erm, I don't recommend installing nvidia drivers if you have an ati card
[08:19] <foampeace> hatake_kakashi: like what might break?
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> anna: hmm.. goto firefox, open a new tab, type in 'about:plugins' without quote and into the address bar, check to see if you can see java on the list
[08:19] <trappist> ubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about ati
[08:19] <hatake_kakashi> foampeace: eg, using nvidia/ati drivers that was from the repo
[08:20] <ratley> has anyone else had usb problems in dapper?
[08:20] <foampeace> the time and date settings wont load in breezy
[08:20] <ratley> for me, lsusb returns nothing
[08:20] <gnomefreak> ratley: not me but you might want to see if nayone filed a bug or 2 on it
[08:21] <OmegaAlpha> trappist, the command i wanted to try but doesnt work is opengl-update ati
[08:21] <ratley> i've been searching the forums, but it's tough with no mouse
[08:21] <trappist> OmegaAlpha: ubotu gave you a link to check out
[08:21] <anna> hatake_kakashi no, theres only something about shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player
[08:21] <shanonx> gnomefreak: hey I talked to you this morning about intstalling without my NIC card... well I got it installed but now when I boot I get an error saying X server isnt configured correctly.
[08:21] <OmegaAlpha> trappist, yeah sorry. for some reason when i click links in xchat they dont open up auto for me
[08:21] <ChrisX1> hey i need help mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[08:21] <ChrisX1> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)'
[08:22] <gnomefreak> ratley: you want to look at launchpad its a little early in release to check forums i think bugs are best bet
[08:22] <ChrisX1> But mysql is running
[08:22] <erUSUL> shanonx, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> anna: ok, so I presume you did that mkdir command, that ln -s command and also that sudo ln -s command from the website?
[08:22] <anna> hatake_kakashi and here i wanted to study computer science.. guess im to slow for that..
[08:22] <gnomefreak> shanonx: in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and re do all the proper settings
[08:22] <bDerrly> has anyone tried running Xgl with dapper?
[08:22] <anna> hatake_kakashi yes i did..
[08:22] <trappist> anna: you give up too easily
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> anna: you're only human
[08:22] <hatake_kakashi> anna: hmm
[08:23] <wastrel> damn why is everyone obsessed with xgl
[08:23] <gnomefreak> because it breaks?
[08:23] <bDerrly> wastrel, why not?
[08:23] <trappist> wastrel: because it's the biggest thing on the linux desktop since X
[08:23] <Belboz99> anyone know why my scanner is transferring images so slowly?
[08:23] <ratley> what's the address for launchpad?
[08:23] <heliotrope> whats xgl
[08:23] <gnomefreak> why were people obbsesed with dapper in dec?
[08:23] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  they still are
[08:24] <gnomefreak> ratley: i think its www.launchpad.com but not positive
[08:24] <ChrisX1> gnomefreak is dapper released?
[08:24] <bDerrly> so, no one has answered my question  :)
[08:24] <gnomefreak> ChrisX1: nope
[08:24] <ChrisX1> okay
[08:24] <Belboz99> no one is answering my question eitehr
[08:24] <hatake_kakashi> anna: ok try this, sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[08:24] <hatake_kakashi> !tell heliotrope about xgl
[08:24] <anna> hatake_kakashi everything at once?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> bDerrly: if noone answered either noone has had an issue or noone uses it check launchpad for bugs many people have had issues with it
[08:25] <Belboz99> I've been trying to get this problem solved for hours and no one  has bothered to acknowledge my existance :(
[08:25] <DaSkreec1> how do I create a .Xauthority file?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: its there by default
[08:25] <Cryptid> crimsun, do u know how can i increase the refresh rate of my monitor from defualt of 60Hz to 85Hz or above in windows my refresh rate was 85 and it worked well but i am unable to set the refresh rate as 85 in Ubuntu
[08:25] <hatake_kakashi> anna: that sudo rm command to the end of what I last wrote, yes
[08:25] <anna> hatake_kakashi <- ninja of the hidden ubuntu knowledge ^^
[08:25] <hatake_kakashi> anna: heh
[08:25] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: open your home folder and click on veiw and than hidden files you will see it there
[08:26] <hatake_kakashi> or should you say hidden linux knowledge
[08:26] <crimsun> Cryptid: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:26] <Belboz99> Cryptid, you have to set your maximimum refresh to your monitor's max refresh, not your resolution's max refresh, if that makes sense
[08:27] <anna> hatake_kakashi hm.. doesnt seem to change anything yet.. nothing happened..
[08:27] <OmegaAlpha> trappist, can you have ubotu display the url since i cant click links in here for some reason
[08:27] <Mosi_> does breezy use cups or lpd?
[08:27] <Mosi_> or both?
[08:27] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: and if it is not?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> bDerrly: did you try #xgl-ubuntu
[08:27] <trappist> !tell OmegaAlpha about ati
[08:27] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: than you deleted it?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: its there by default in breezy and dapper
[08:28] <hatake_kakashi> anna: what it did before is to remove that link and to relink it again, restart firefox and check under about:plugins again
[08:28] <Belboz99> Cryptid, what I mean by that is if my old Dell could do 1152x864 @ 75hz, I need to set the max refresh to 85hz.  That is the highest refresh my monitor was capable of.
[08:28] <anna> hatake_kakashi okay.. just a moment
[08:28] <OmegaAlpha> crap it just sends "OmegaAlpha" as the link
[08:28] <wastrel> Belboz99:  are they particularly large files?  is your RAM getting eaten up & you end up doing a lot of disk access swapping out chunks of memory
[08:28] <wastrel> Belboz99:  is your hard drive slow?  dma?
[08:29] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: true :) but I can't run gksudo It complains about the .Xauthoriuty file
[08:29] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: you have to beable to veiw the hidden files to see it
[08:29] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: It's not there
[08:29] <_6ix_> Why would it tell me only superusers can use dpkg?
[08:29] <Belboz99> wastrl, thanks for answering.  It seems to be the USB speed.  The scanner completes an 8 Megapixel scan in under 30 seconds, but transferring it takes about 5 minutes
[08:29] <gnomefreak> _6ix_: because only superusers can use it
[08:29] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: can I refresh the making of my home dir?
[08:30] <anna> hatake_kakashi o_O
[08:30] <_6ix_> How do I become a superuser so I can install my printer drivers?
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> _6ix_: because it has to install/remove specific files that normal users do not have priviledged access to
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> anna: what?
[08:30] <ChrisX1> hey i need help mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[08:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell _6ix_ about sudo
[08:30] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: even if you make it its not gonna have anything in it
[08:30] <ChrisX1> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)'
[08:30] <ChrisX1> But mysql is running
[08:30] <wastrel> Belboz99:  i don't know anything about usb :] 
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> _6ix_: sudo <command>
[08:30] <Belboz99> wastrel, I'm using Vuescan as the scanning software, sane isn't even involved
[08:30] <Cryptid> Belboz99, how do i know my monitors max refresh rate?? under Windows my desktop resolution use to be 1024x768 at refresh ra te of 85Hz
[08:30] <_6ix_> Hrmm, let me read this, thanks
[08:30] <anna> hatake_kakashi why should something be easy when it can be difficoult as well?
[08:30] <Cryptid> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8789 check it out
[08:30] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: can i ask why you deleted it?
[08:30] <anna> hatake_kakashi did not work.. sorry ./
[08:30] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: I didn't
[08:31] <hatake_kakashi> anna: hmm
[08:31] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: It's just not there
[08:31] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: I added the user in a non mundane way
[08:31] <hatake_kakashi> anna: is your version of firefox from the repos?
[08:31] <DaSkreec1> So the home folder might be messed up
[08:31] <Belboz99> Cryptid, should be in your monitor's manual, you should be able to find it online at your manufacter's website, or you can just guss and say something like 100hz
[08:31] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: can you open your home folder in natulis?
[08:32] <anna> hatake_kakashi oh .. i dont remember that.. silly me
[08:32] <anna> arg
[08:32] <yanimax> crimsun: thanks, pan looks very good
[08:32] <gnomefreak> natilus*
[08:32] <hatake_kakashi> anna: well I'll bbiab, restarting X with nvidia module
[08:32] <pawel> nautilus
[08:32] <pawel> ;>
[08:33] <gnomefreak> that too ty
[08:33] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:33] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: Yes
[08:33] <Belboz99> anyone know of any propblems with Ubuntu and nVidia's nForce 2 USB 2.0 controller?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: click on view and than hidden files/folders
[08:33] <C0deNiNja> _6ix_, simply because of that
[08:33] <kyo> How do I change my user password in bash?
[08:33] <DaSkreec1> right
[08:33] <Spec> kyo: man passwd
[08:33] <DaSkreec1> kyo: passwd
[08:33] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: you dont see it anywhere?
[08:33] <Belboz99> anyone know how to check what USB speed my devices are connected at?
[08:34] <DaSkreec1> no
[08:34] <Spec> lsusb maybe? is there such a thing?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[08:35] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: there must be some way to create it correct?
[08:35] <Belboz99> Spec: Bus 003 Device 004: ID 04b8:012a Seiko Epson Corp. is what it spits out
[08:35] <Cryptid> crimsun, got ne way of increasing the refresh rate yet????
[08:35] <crimsun> Cryptid: note line 1604
[08:35] <cfk> dapper-server image is the same as normal? dapper-install-i386.iso
[08:37] <Cryptid> crimsun, yes i see 43-60 what do i do? just replace 60 with 85??
[08:38] <crimsun> Cryptid: you need a vertrefresh option
[08:38] <crimsun> Cryptid: you can google for the syntax
[08:38] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: mkxauth?
[08:38] <Frafra> hi all
[08:38] <OmniColos> hello!
[08:38] <Frafra> what I should install for use aclocal?
[08:38] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: if you find out what app/program makes that file/generates the file you cna try reinstalling it but thats the long way around. i dont know of a shorter way. either way i am having a hard time believing that that is causeing your error because a fix for X hanging is to delete that and the ICEauthority
[08:39] <snoozix> do i have a chance to modify how many lines are scrolled in X when i use the mouse wheel? the smooth wheel extension for firefox does exactly what i need, but i would like something like that for kde, opera, konqueror and all the other stuff, too.
[08:39] <OmniColos> read all about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=744474#post744474
[08:39] <Cryptid> crimsun, k i will try looking up for it
[08:39] <crimsun> Frafra: automake1.x (where x = {6,7,8,9})
[08:39] <Belboz99> Hey, it seems that I am connected at USB 2.0.  I'm going to have a heck of a time figuring out why the connection is so slow :(
[08:39] <shanonx> gnomefreak: when i run xserver reconfigure, it asks me for the pCI address of my graphics card, and my graphics card is a PCI-Express, how can i found out the address of that card if I don't know it?
[08:39] <lulu> has anyone tried running 'nachos' on linux?
[08:39] <Frafra> thanks crimsun
[08:39] <gnomefreak> to make an empty file you would use mkdir path/to file
[08:40] <erUSUL> shanonx, try lspci
[08:40] <gnomefreak> laspci output should help you there shanonx
[08:40] <gnomefreak> lspci even
[08:40] <videofreak> why is ubuntu better than other linux distros?
[08:40] <Frafra> crimsun: you're right :)
[08:40] <DaSkreec1> gnomefreak: can I recreate the home folder for a user?
[08:40] <DaSkreec1> videofreak: The community
[08:41] <gnomefreak> DaSkreec1: that im sure you can but i dont know how
[08:41] <OmniColos> videofreak, community community community
[08:41] <Spec> The stability? the release cycles?
[08:41] <_jason> DaSkreec1: what do you mean by recreate?
[08:41] <mzinz> During boot I get long delays on "configuring network interfaces".  How do I fix this?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is for anyone from beginners to experts :)
[08:41] <OmniColos> plus because of debians popularity, there si lots of other help avail too
[08:42] <concept10> What gnome version does dapper have at the moment
[08:42] <gnomefreak> 2.13.90
[08:42] <IdleOne> I hate Macs
[08:42] <concept10> gnomefreak, are you on dapper now?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> concept10: yes
[08:42] <IdleOne> damn cd stuck in the drive and cant get it out
[08:42] <concept10> gnomefreak, how is the stability?
[08:42] <OmniColos> theres a little key in the top right to eject
[08:42] <tatters> How do I enable hidden files and folders in ubuntu?
[08:43] <DaSkreec1> _jason: remake it as if the user was just created
[08:43] <IdleOne> OmniColos:  doesnt work
[08:43] <xnull> concept10 is table
[08:43] <xnull> stable*
[08:43] <OmniColos> idle: *top right of the kb
[08:43] <_jason> DaSkreec1: it's just and empty folder
[08:43] <DaSkreec1> _jason: really?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> concept10: right this sec it has some crashing of apps but how stable will it be tomorrow only tomorrow will tell
[08:43] <OmniColos> hmm must be a mac thing XD
[08:43] <DaSkreec1> _jason: so what creates the .Xauthority file?
[08:43] <IdleOne> OmniColos:  tried to install Mandriva on it install failed btw and now the cd is stuck in there
[08:43] <OmniColos> even after rebbot?
[08:43] <concept10> I need to jump on dapper, i got on breezy early and didnt have any problems, just many updates
[08:43] <OmniColos> reboot
[08:43] <_jason> DaSkreec1: when you start gnome it will create the files it needs as will other programs the first time you start them
[08:44] <wastrel> i'm sleepy
[08:44] <DaSkreec1> _jason: will gnome or will metacity
[08:44] <IdleOne> OmniColos:  yup
[08:44] <DaSkreec1> I'm runing compiz
[08:44] <OmniColos> :o
[08:44] <_jason> DaSkreec1: heh I don't know who does it
[08:44] <gnomefreak> concept10: i suggest if you want a stable system to stick with breezy
[08:44] <DaSkreec1> _jason: blast!! I need to find out what makes that file
[08:44] <_jason> DaSkreec1: how come?
[08:44] <concept10> gnomefreak, gimme an example of what app crashes?
[08:44] <DaSkreec1> I'll find out after lunch and tell you
[08:44] <ccc_> IdleOne: it can't eject if its mounted. perhaps you're standing in the cdrom dir in a terminal? you could try "sudo eject" too
[08:44] <gnomefreak> screem
[08:44] <IdleOne> OmniColos:  think Im going to take it outside and use it to hold up my car
[08:44] <DaSkreec1> _jason: cause it's not there
[08:45] <IdleOne> ccc_:  Mac doesnt boot at all
[08:45] <DaSkreec1> and I can't gksudo
[08:45] <tatters> How do I viewe hidden files and folders in ubuntu?
[08:45] <Mosi_> hey folks, i'm trying to install naim v.0.11.8, and the configure script says i have no curses library
[08:45] <_jason> DaSkreec1: .Xauthority? did you try logging in to gnome?
[08:45] <Spec> tatters: long listing
[08:45] <gnomefreak> tatters: view>hiddenfiles
[08:45] <Mosi_> even though i can run Irssi and an olver version of naim
[08:45] <Spec> ls -hal
[08:45] <Mosi_> *older
[08:45] <ccc_> IdleOne: oh... ok.
[08:45] <wastrel> Mosi_:  you're compiling naim?
[08:46] <Spec> Mosi_: do you have the curses library?
[08:46] <DaSkreec1> _jason: I'm in gnome now
[08:46] <gnomefreak> naim is in repos why would you compile it :(
[08:46] <concept10> gnomefreak, screem sucks anyway :)
[08:46] <Spec> Mosi_: you need something along the lines of libcurses-dev
[08:46] <_jason> DaSkreec1: logout of gnome and log back in
[08:46] <DaSkreec1> Ok
[08:46] <Mosi_> wastrel: trying to, apt-get only has an older version that uses an outdated protocol
[08:46] <gnomefreak> concept10: but im just saying use at own risk what works today is not garentied to work tomorrow
[08:46] <tatters> ok thnx, i was creating a .thpasswd file and acidently named it .htpassword then it dissapared
[08:46] <tatters> .htpasswd
[08:47] <Mosi_> or so i have been led to believe... since it won't connect and complains that it's too old
[08:47] <IdleOne> OmniColos:  all I get is a blinking folder with the mac icon and a question mark :/
[08:47] <wastrel> to compile you need the dev thingy what spec said
[08:47] <gnomefreak> that is what they mean by its not stable
[08:47] <concept10> gnomefreak, im looking for the page for list of _major_ changes.  for example breezy used gcc 4 instead of 3.4
[08:47] <Mosi_> spec: thanks
[08:47] <psycode> the archive.ubuntu.com repository doesn't seem to work, what should i replace it with?
[08:47] <OmniColos> IdleOne, ouch
[08:47] <gnomefreak> concept10: and dapper uses gcc4
[08:47] <gnomefreak> breezy kernel was compiled with gcc3.4
[08:48] <tatters> but accidently named it .htpassword and it went hidden
[08:48] <Mosi_> spec: libcurses-dev isn't available from any repo in my list :(
[08:48] <dooglus> concept10: dapper doesn't work with xubuntu-desktop at all at the moment
[08:48] <concept10> gnomefreak, yeah, all of my kernels are with 3.4
[08:48] <gnomefreak> tatters: all ~/.files are hidden
[08:48] <IdleOne> guess I have a good reason to take this piece of crap off my desk now
[08:48] <IdleOne> :(
[08:48] <mzinz> How can I compress a file in .zip format?
[08:48] <dooglus> mzinz: no need; it's already compressed
[08:48] <_jason> mzinz: man zip :)
[08:48] <gnomefreak> sure it does
[08:48] <Mosi_> tatters: why don't you just rename it from a terminal?
[08:49] <Belboz99> hey, how do I allow a normal access to USB devices?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> im on xfce :)
[08:49] <tatters> but .htpassword has no tilde?
[08:49] <concept10> dooglus, whats the issue? basically im trying to find out what major components have been changed, i will judge wether i should upgrade with that
[08:49] <tatters> is tha t a system file or something?
[08:49] <wastrel> isn't it supposed to be .htpasswd
[08:49] <Mosi_> tatters: ~ refers to your home directory.... i.e. /home/tatters/.htpassword
[08:49] <dooglus> concept10: xubuntu-desktop: Depends: xfdesktop4 but it is not going to be installed
[08:49] <concept10> I only use a couple of xfce app (most notably, the terminal - it rocks)
[08:49] <OmniColos> IdleOne, maybe check this: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106882
[08:49] <gnomefreak> dooglus: have you done todays updates
[08:50] <Mosi_> tatters: is the file in your home folder?
[08:50] <tatters> it was wetral but I accidently maned it .htpassword
[08:50] <shanonx> gnomefreak: oh well i still get the error (EE) no devices detected, Fatal error: no screens found...... so how do i get grub out of my master boot?
[08:50] <tatters> yes mosi
[08:50] <tatters> well I created t my home folder
[08:50] <OmniColos> IdleOne, using the firmware method
[08:50] <gnomefreak> shanonx: why do you want grub off mbr?
[08:50] <Mosi_> tatters: open a terminal and do this: 'ls -a .??*'
[08:50] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I've updated today if that's what you mean
[08:50] <mzinz> _jason, im reading the man page but its so much info to take in.. which param is for creating an archive from a dir?
[08:51] <shanonx> gnomefreak: because it looks like ubuntu cannot handle pci-express, at least with this motherboard
[08:51] <rewt_> Hello all.
[08:51] <monomaco> after installing xorg down, -->/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! any help plz?
[08:51] <Mosi_> tatters: do you see it?
[08:51] <OmniColos> IdleOne, or even: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/ASCC/documentation/mackeys.html
[08:51] <Mosi_> tatters: the file should be in the list ls gives you
[08:51] <gnomefreak> dooglus: ive had xubuntu-desktop installed for a few weeks it hasnt given me a lick of problems and today i saw a crap load of xfce updates
[08:51] <concept10> gnomefreak, i guess i dont need that much stability, i only use a couple of apps, FF 1.5, TB, Vim, Nautilus, xfce-terminal, and VLC
[08:51] <wastrel> mzinz:  to search in a man page type /searchterm<enter>
[08:51] <dooglus> gnomefreak: whatversionof xubuntu-desktop do you have?
[08:51] <tatters> k mos thnxi I gotta go through webmin it takes me cpl of mins
[08:52] <jrhonk> how i get sounds work in enemy-territory?
[08:52] <_jason> mzinz: I believe you just do zip file.zip /path/to/directory, not sure...
[08:52] <gnomefreak> default dooglus  i think its 4
[08:52] <jrhonk> i use alsa
[08:52] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I mean "dpkg -l xubuntu-desktop"
[08:52] !lilo:*! hmmm, here's an interesting opportunity. this alienware person seems to be waiting for people to message him on AIM address 'itscrazyguymike' in order to let him know they want to buy his merchandise. if a number of people message him instead to let him know that we really find his advertising on freenode irritating, perhaps he'll remove freenode from the distribution list
[08:52] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:52] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it will be 1.<something>
[08:52] <gnomefreak> dooglus: there is no version
[08:53] <dooglus> gnomefreak: every package file has a version number
[08:53] <virus> Where can I set the resolutions for my x server? I tried editing /etc/xorg.conf directly, but it doesn't change a thing - not even the server output changes. It provides only the two resolution that I gave him during install time: 640x480 and 800x600. I've got a radeon 8200 and would like to have native pal resolution: 768x576
[08:53] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i thought that too
[08:53] <Mosi_> tatters: once you've made sure the file is in the directory you're in, just rename it: 'mv .htpassword .htpasswd'
[08:53] <kyo> my network is lagging ... :(
[08:53] <gnomefreak> hold on let me pastebin this
[08:53] <mzinz> _jason, thank you
[08:53] <jrhonk> How i can get sounds work in Wolfenstein: Enemy-Territory? I am using alsa.
[08:53] <dooglus> gnomefreak: version <none> means you don't have it installed...
[08:53] <akp> wastrel: thanks for the info on fglrxconfig -- that sweeted me up!
[08:53] <_jason> mzinz: why are you using zip?
[08:53] <Mosi_> tatters: the last argument is the filename to rename it to, so make it whatever you want. if you take the . off, it will become visible again
[08:54] <gnomefreak> hold on brb
[08:54] <wastrel> akp:  schweet :] 
[08:54] <shib> with what program can i watch .avi or .wmv files?
[08:55] <rewt_> Shib
[08:55] <virus> shib, mplayer, vlc and totem (or any other gstreamer/xine based player)
[08:55] <Mosi_> shib: try mplayer
[08:55] <_jason> mzinz: oh and the man page says I was wrong, you need to do zip -r
[08:55] <rewt_> mplayer works fine. I use it
[08:55] <shib> k
[08:55] <psycode> where can i find repositories that work???
[08:55] <jrhonk> HOW I CAN GET SOUNDS WORK IN ENEMY-TERRITORY?
[08:55] <virus> psycode: it depends on what you need? official ubuntu repositories or just some additional stuff?
[08:55] <dooglus> psycode: archive.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> are nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?
[08:56] <_jason> jrhonk: your caps lock seems to be broken too
[08:56] <psycode> dooglus, it doesnt seem to work..
[08:56] <virus> jrhonk: please describe your problem? Is your sound working in other apps than enemy territory. And pls. repair your keyboard, you're writing all uppercase.
[08:56] <anders__> I have a problem getting mplayer to work. "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device". Hov do I know which video driver to use?
[08:57] !lilo:*! Someone has suggested to me that it may just be a mail harvester....so maybe the messages are not such a great idea
[08:57] <Ethyl> *crains l'alcool
[08:57] <virus> anders__, mplayer -vo help in order to get a list of available video outputs. Usualy xv, sdl and x11 work fine (in that order)
[08:57] <anders__> I have set XWindows with X11 in the multimedia systems selector
[08:57] <psycode> virus, the official and the additional ... i have the list but the server is down or something :\
[08:57] <dooglus> psycode: can you see http://archive.ubuntu.com in a web browser?
[08:57] <virus> psycode, I'd say try a different mirror then, there are plenty of ubuntu repository servers out there.
[08:58] <psycode> dooglus, yes.. weird
[08:58] <dooglus> psycode: so can I.  that would suggest that the server isn't down.
[08:58] <anders__> virus: thx, giving it a try now
[08:58] <dooglus> psycode: I can also download packages from it; another hint that it's working.
[08:58] <jrhonk> yeah i get it work
[08:58] <virus> psycode, are you behind a firewall/proxy and did you set up the proxy correctly for apt?
[08:58] <shanonx> anyone have any other ideas on how to get my PCI-express card to work so that Xserver will work right?
[08:59] <Mosi_> tatters: did that solve the problem?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i logged out of xfce and back in and it looked screwy
[08:59] <gnomefreak> todays updates screwed it up :(
[08:59] <virus> Anyone using fglrx here and knows how to set the resolution? /etc/xorg.conf doesn't have any effect on the resolution. :-/
[08:59] <psycode> virus, no.. it used to work...
[08:59] <tatters> mosi yup thnx im still working it but I unerstand thnx.. lol I am V slow
[08:59] <gnomefreak> the menu was 2 bottons and the desktops the time was in top right corner
[09:00] <psycode> virus, a friend of mine has the same problem
[09:00] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it was screwed up for me about this time yesterday.  today''s updates have made it better, but still not right.
[09:00] <wastrel> virus:  xorg.conf works for me... i'm using fglrx
[09:00] <gnomefreak> buttons*
[09:00] <kyo> My network is lagging ... and I'm not using any bandwidth. o_O
[09:00] <videofreak> why is linux better than dos?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> linux doesnt compare to dos 2 different things
[09:00] <virus> psycode: I'm always getting 800x600 or 640x480 - I just want a custom resolution. No errors in the server log - nothing... those proprietary drivers suck. :-(
[09:00] <deefzi> kyo, the grandpa next door is downing pr0n through your shared gateway ;>
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Unix is better than dos tho :)
[09:01] !lilo:*! Interesting. Apparently two users have actually received annoyed messages from itscrazyguymike.
[09:01] <videofreak> deefzi is hacking kyo?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> dooglus: that was the first time i logged out of xfce ina  few days
[09:01] !lilo:*! Maybe this strategy will actually work.
[09:01] <kyo> realy slow right now ...
[09:01] <kyo> brb
[09:01] <deefzi> videofreak, with my superior ping-flood sk33lz? yes!
[09:01] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrr i hate screem :(
[09:01] <dooglus> gnomefreak: how do you update?  from the command line, or using a gui?
[09:01] !lilo:*! There are reports he's 'offline', but that may mean he's blocking people
[09:01] <gnomefreak> cli
[09:01] <deefzi> videofreak, i want one... MILLION DOLLARS! otherwise i shall ping the internet down.
[09:02] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I'm surprised it would uninstall xubuntu-desktop without you noticing
[09:02] <anders__> virus: I get the message "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available". I have an ATI card (Dell inspiron 6000)
[09:02] <gnomefreak> i find cli updates are faster
[09:02] <videofreak> how come there isn't msn for linux?
[09:02] <maihem> gaim?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i didnt see it the only thing ive done was with gaim trying to compile it it was getting rid of xubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <videofreak> ohh
[09:02] <Alexi5> god bless ubuntu
[09:02] <videofreak> what about microsoft word?
[09:02] <OmniColos> ;-)
[09:02] <Alexi5> linux of all linucies
[09:02] <rewt_> Alexi5, indeed.
[09:02] <Ofe> videofreak,  msn is microsoft product. there is similar programs, like gaim
[09:02] <maihem> openoffice
[09:03] <gnomefreak> and that was 2 days worth of crap :(
[09:03] <wastrel> videofreak:  abiword, openoffice
[09:03] <shanonx> lspci results: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies, Uknown device 7166 ;  0000:01:00.1 Display controller , Ati Tech. Uknown device 7166
[09:03] <virus> videofreak, I recommend you to read about "preemtive multitasking" ... just one thing that stands out, I'd say. :)
[09:03] <rewt_> shannon
[09:03] <psycode> virus, my problem might be with my DNS servers..
[09:03] <heliotrope> how can i install a windows media player plugin to firefox? whenever i try to do it it sends me to microsofts site to download the entire media player
[09:03] <rewt_> go in your terminal\
[09:03] <Alexi5> i never used it but god bless it.i am downloading it now
[09:03] <rewt_> and type       sudo update-pciids
[09:03] <videofreak> linux's multi tasking is preemptive?
[09:03] <_jason> heliotrope: use mplayer plugin
[09:03] <_jason> heliotrope: with w32codecs
[09:03] <gnomefreak> heliotrope: this isnt microsoft windows you gonna have a hell of a time adding something made by ms
[09:03] <maihem> videofreak, yeah, like windows 95 onwards
[09:04] <videofreak> ooh
[09:04] <heliotrope> _jason, where / how can i do that
[09:04] <virus> psycode, can you lookup hosts from the command line ... just try "dig archive.ubuntu.com"
[09:04] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[09:04] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell heliotrope about mplayer
[09:04] <maihem> only linux did it since 1991 when its earliest developer versions were released
[09:04] <videofreak> i thought it is non preemptive all along
[09:04] <heliotrope> _jason, thanks
[09:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell heliotrope about w32codecs
[09:04] <OmniColos> he might be better off with VLC
[09:05] <videofreak> i'm running linux on 486 = (
[09:05] <psycode> virus, dig works, but ping to archive.ubuntu.com returns "unknown host" while in windows (where my DNS is configured directly) ping works...
[09:05] <virus> videofreak, cooperative multitasking would be pretty bad idea... one hanging app just crashes the whole system.
[09:05] <_jason> OmniColos: well it's an alternative, but why better off?
[09:05] <OmniColos> _jason good point
[09:05] <virus> psycode, how did you configure  your IP and DNS? Do you use DHCP or a static setup?
[09:06] <chalcedony> does anybody have any idea why Audacity would say it has a problem and wont' let me record or play?
[09:06] <shanonx> rewt: that wont work either because ubuntu wont detect my onboard NIC card either
[09:06] <OmniColos> but I found vlc a very quick solution without having to downlad lots of support pacakges
[09:06] !lilo:*! okay, cool....if you are irritated by the advertising, please use AIM to let itscrazyguymike know it....there's definitely a human being there, and we can let him know he is violating the terms of service of freenode by doing this, and we're not at all happy about it ;)
[09:06] <crimsun> chalcedony: make sure nothing is holding /dev/dsp open
[09:06] <bur[n] er> is there such thing as a changelog for dapper packages that be accessed via rs?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> it wont open from term either :( oh well guess ill wait a few days a week until its fixed
[09:06] <maihem> videofreak: linux was originally written for 386, if you have the right GUI software (ie, only as fancy as the stuff you got on windows 3.0), then you should be able to find a linux to run fine on a 486. Ubuntu, however, won't run on the typical 486 - you gotta be from a wealthy country to us it.
[09:06] <psycode> virus, static IP, DNS through the router i belive... i can't access my linux computer directly, just through SSH so it's hard for me to check these things (no GUI)..
[09:06] <crimsun> bur[n] er: via rss? Yes, there's a feed for dapper-changes.
[09:06] <virus> anders__, it seams that the drivers aren't working properly. You can try 'sdl' and 'x11' as output, but you probably suffer from slow screen refresh anyways?
[09:07] <shanonx> rewt_: i have the drivers for my nic card on another drive that is a USB drive but i dont know how to mount it... <--(noob)
[09:07] <Flight3> Could some kind person please DCC me their dapper Flight 3 sources.list?
[09:07] <bur[n] er> crimsun: but that doesn't show the "changelog" it just says there is a new version, not what that version does
[09:07] <videofreak> haha
[09:07] <videofreak> nice
[09:07] <OmniColos> videofreak, you might try puppy linux
[09:07] <Flight3> I just accidently erased it * embarrased *
[09:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Flight3 about sources
[09:07] <alejandro> join /ubuntu-es
[09:07] <virus> psycode, do you have the router IP in your /etc/resorv.conf ?
[09:07] <videofreak> i'm actually on pentium 200
[09:07] <celerex> I installed Breezy with succes, then i chages my sources list to Dapper and did update / -f upgrade
[09:07] <gnomefreak> Flight3: read the pm ubotu sent you
[09:07] <virus> psycode, pardon, /etc/resolv.conf
[09:07] <Flight3> ok thx
[09:07] <anders__> virus: I think I do. videos play in VLC, but they don't look very good
[09:07] <videofreak> i used to have 50mb ram free
[09:07] <rewt_> Shanon, why not go to the site in linux and just download the drivers?
[09:08] <videofreak> but why do i have 3mb after i install apache2?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> celerex: you might have better luck with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:08] <celerex> that broke my install, neither the 2.6.15 nor the 2.6.12 kernel will boot, can't find my root partition. I ran a dist-upgrade and now only 1 package is being held back. I still can't boot my system though
[09:08] <psycode> virus, yup ("nameserver 10.0.0.2") ---> but this setting caused trouble in windows, where i had to configure the DNS servers directly for it to work.. can i do that in linux?
[09:08] <virus> anders__, I'm no fglrx expert at all - having a lot of problems with my old radeon 8200, too. ATI driver support really sucks. :-/
[09:08] <gnomefreak> celerex: you knew dapper isnt stable before doing that right?
[09:08] <shanonx> rewt_: cause im so new to linux that i dont know how to do that from the prompt
[09:08] <celerex> When i boot the recovery console versions, it just says 'ERROR: can't find /dev/sda2'
[09:08] <maihem> videofreak, unused ram is wasted ram. Linux uses all the ram available as best as possible.
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : mplayer -vo help
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : you still here?
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> are nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?
[09:08] <wastrel> celerex:  your new kernels arent loading scsi modules?
[09:08] <celerex> i suspected, but the fact that it can't find my root partition but actually has all my modules in the system makes me think I can modify some file and it'll boot.
[09:09] <rewt_> shanonx, do you not havea gui?
[09:09] <celerex> Neither new NOR the old (breezy) is booting
[09:09] <virus> psycode, is your router running a nameserver? if windows wasn't able to use it I guess not. Just put the nameservers you use on your windows box in that file.
[09:09] <anders__> lsuactiafner: yes
[09:09] <videofreak> maihem, hmm make sense in a way... but that will make new applications slow?
[09:09] <celerex> they both stop in the same place.
[09:09] <maihem> if apache2 isn't serving web pages for a few seconds, your other programs will get the ram from it (pushing apache2 out to disk until it is needed).
[09:09] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : mplayer -vo help
[09:09] <virus> psycode, one nameserver per line. (and maximum 3 nameservers as far as I remember)
[09:09] <anders__> lsuactiafner: tried the help, and xv is listed
[09:09] <gnomefreak> celerex: i recommend reinstalling breezy and waiting til april for dapper
[09:09] <shanonx> rewt_ i have gnome installed but cannot get to X server because my ATI display  isnt recognized.... and my onboard LAN card isnt recognized either.
[09:09] <OmniColos> it would be nice if there was a version of ubuntu just for old hardware but until then maybe try: http://www.goosee.com/pup
[09:09] <celerex> arg, does XGL work in Breezy?
[09:09] <maihem> it slows down as you switch, but if you software needs 150MB ram and you only have 50MB, well...
[09:09] <gnomefreak> celerex: nope
[09:09] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : ubuntu mplayer packages are broken, mplayerdev will tell you to use the current cvs version instead
[09:09] <virus> psycode, but putting more nameservers in that file won't hurt... it just will only pick the first three entries afaik.
[09:10] <eugman> Is there any good visual bandwidth monitor of each process?
[09:10] <psycode> virus, like "nameserver 192.115.106.11 <\n> nameserver 192.115.106.12
[09:10] <rewt_> shanonx, what display  do you have?
[09:10] <videofreak> i'm run basic ubuntu
[09:10] <virus> psycode, exactly.
[09:10] <rewt_> What card
[09:10] <dts> i've been having a lot of random freezes lately and I have the feeling this is because some files got corrupted when the power went out, is there a way to reinstall all installed packages in the system
[09:10] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : also make sure if you use xv that xorg is using the correct driver for your display card
[09:10] <psycode> virus, thanks i'll try
[09:10] <celerex> Just my bad luck that dapper wont' boot for me?
[09:10] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : also try -vo sdl, works best
[09:10] <rewt_> ati what
[09:10] <virus> psycode, then try to lookup and/or ping some internet host - should work then. :)
[09:10] <celerex> i mean there must be some config file somewhere that isn't loading the modules in proper order
[09:10] <anders__> lsuactiafner: then I have to build it myself?
[09:10] <shanonx> rewt_: ATI PCI-Express 512MG, Radeon X1300
[09:10] <celerex> is there a way to run a mass reconfigure
[09:10] <celerex> >?
[09:10] <maihem> afk
[09:10] <videofreak> thanks
[09:10] <gnomefreak> celerex: its not yet in beta still alot of work being done on it everyone with dapper atm is having issues
[09:10] <anders__> lsuactiafner: how do I make sure that xorg uses the correct driver?
[09:10] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : also you can add vo="sdl," into .mplayer/config to make it default
[09:11] <gnomefreak> celerex: not that i am aware of
[09:11] <anders__> lsuactiafner: sdl worked :-)
[09:11] <celerex> i figured :) oh well, last question. Sometimes doing an apt-get i'll get an error that tells me the command 'locale' cannot be found
[09:11] <psycode> virus, works, thanks alot! :)
[09:12] <gnomefreak> celerex: thats  a dappers locales issue thats normal and the first issue dapper had
[09:12] <virus> psycode, np. you're welcome. :)
[09:12] <gnomefreak> it has been fixed on the flight 4
[09:12] <celerex> super :) thanks gnome
[09:12] <alejandro> how can i join to a spanish room?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> alejandro: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:12] <_jason> alejandro: type: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:12] !lilo:*! Well, that was refreshing. I guess at this point we should wait to message the guy until he shows up here again. Next time he does (you probably want to spread the word), people on the channel he's on should complain to his AIM address or email address. Apparently he's waiting for sales leads on them and maybe we can get his attention by letting him know his messages are a problem. :)
[09:13] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : xv is faster, but try xvinfo and run lspci to check what display card you have
[09:13] <alejandro> yes, but i forget to save it
[09:13] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : #mplayer is also usefull...
[09:13] <ali> is there any .rm to mp3 converter?
[09:13] <alejandro> thank you again
[09:13] <virus> lsuactiafner, if the xvideo extension isn't working SDL probably won't work well either. It will fall back to slower outputs so it's always a safe choice, yepp. :)
[09:13] <lsuactiafner> ali : mencoder can do it
[09:13] <rewt_> shanonx, I don't know. Sorry. Those are somewhat new and iffy with linux.
[09:14] <rewt_> I just googled it and a lot of poeple are having problems with linux and your card.
[09:14] <[blah] > how do I setup my resolution?
[09:14] <anders__> virus, lsuactiafner: thx for your help. mplayer works with sdl.
[09:14] <[blah] > other than ctrl alt +
[09:14] <shanonx> rewt_: how do i uninstall grub from the MBR then? ill just stay with winblows a while longer :(
[09:14] <rewt_> [blah] , go to system>preferences> Screen Resolution
[09:15] <snoozix> rewt_: ? isn't it just configurable with xorg.conf?
[09:15] <virus> anders__, if you find some time after finishing watching the movie you might want to invest some time getting your graphic card working properly.
[09:15] <anders__> lsuactiafner: xvinfo says: no adaptors present..
[09:15] <[blah] > how can I add resolutions?
[09:15] <gnomefreak> shanonx: iirc in dos you can run fixmbr and it will erase grub from it
[09:15] <rewt_> snoozix, what?
[09:15] <anders__> virus: I think I need to do that
[09:16] <Yorak> can somebody helped me out? I've installed scrot but when I try to take one i get an error message
[09:16] <gnomefreak> shanonx: deleteing grub will not delete ubuntu
[09:16] <snoozix> rewt_: how can you configure the screen resolution from a desktop? i thought it was just possible by editing the xorg.conf file directly?
[09:16] <[blah] > this is _really_ nice for a linux os!
[09:16] <shanonx> gnomefreak: i know, I will just erase grub then clear out that partition for now
[09:16] <rewt_> snoozix, did you check system preferences and then screen resolution?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell snoozix about fixres
[09:17] <Flight3> Excuse me folks, is there a later kernel than 2.6.15-12-386 in dapper?
[09:17] <hermes7> Hi guys..i have just started with linux (ubuntu).
[09:17] <hermes7> I am trying to let mp3's working.
[09:17] <hermes7> On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats they say that
[09:17] <hermes7> I have only to install gstreamer0.8-mad with Synaptic.
[09:17] <hermes7> If I do that I get this error:
[09:17] <hermes7> "gstreamer0.8-mad:
[09:17] <gnomefreak> 2.6.15.15
[09:17] <hermes7>  Vereisten: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[09:17] <hermes7>  Vereisten: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable"
[09:17] <hermes7> I can't find anything about this problem.
[09:17] <hermes7> Thanks
[09:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell hermes7 about enter
[09:17] <gnomefreak> sorry its -15
[09:17] <Flight3> gnomefreak, can I download this directly?
[09:17] <iny> Hola
[09:17] <kemik> hermes7: dont paste in here
[09:17] <virus> hermes: please don't post over multiple lines.
[09:17] <iny> alguien me ayuda?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> Flight3: yes
[09:17] <gnomefreak> !daily
[09:17] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:17] <kemik> hermes7: use pastebin for that
[09:17] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.
[09:17] <iny> #guadalinex
[09:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Flight3 about dailybuild
[09:18] <wastrel> iny:  #ubuntu-es
[09:18] <[blah] > my refresh rate is really low and the screen isn't centered how do I rectify this (without being able to change my monitor settings due to it being on a KVM switch)
[09:18] <snoozix> gnomefreak: thanks. :)
[09:18] <_jason> hermes7: put /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[09:18] <gnomefreak> snoozix: yw
[09:18] <snoozix> gnomefreak: but it doesn't really answer my question
[09:18] <snoozix> gnomefreak: but it's allright
[09:19] <maihem> How do I get japanese text input in gedit, firefox, xchat-gnome etc. The input method menu seems to have everything except kana/kanji :/ I've installed japanese support and scim, but to no avail.
[09:19] <[blah] > [blah] 
[09:19] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.
[09:19] <hermes7> nobody? :)
[09:19] <gnomefreak> snoozix: you asked how to fix your resolution right?
[09:19] <_jason> hermes7: put /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[09:19] <snoozix> gnomefreak: no. i asked if there is another way than editing xorg.conf.
[09:19] <pawsilver> hi there
[09:20] <snoozix> gnomefreak: allright, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would do something comparable.
[09:20] <[blah] > [blah] 
[09:20] <Yorak> Anybody?
[09:20] <schmity> hey
[09:20] <gnomefreak> snoozix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <schmity> hey
[09:20] <schmity> hey
[09:20] <Bergcube> I am frustrated.  I've installed Dapper Drake Flight 3, and cannot come to terms with the new layout and general interface of Xchat. I wish I could get it back like the way it was in 5.10. Is that possible? (And if so, what do I need to do?)
[09:20] <maihem> snoozix: is `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` what you're looking for?
[09:20] <snoozix> gnomefreak: yes, that edits xorg.conf, too.
[09:20] <snoozix> maihem: no.
[09:20] <snoozix> maihem: i KNOW how to do it my way.
[09:20] <gnomefreak> Bergcube: thats not xchat thats gnome-xchat
[09:20] <hermes7> sorry..tnx
[09:20] <snoozix> maihem: i wanted to know WHICH OTHER WAYS there are :)
[09:20] <maihem> sorry, must have missed part of the convo
[09:20] <pawsilver> Anyone help me?  Looking for a Lexmark Z25 inkjet driver for edubuntu
[09:20] <gnomefreak> Bergcube: sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:20] <[blah] > Bergcube, Settings -> Preferences
[09:20] <snoozix> maihem: but thanks :)
[09:21] <Bergcube> gnomefreak: If that held any understandable meaning for me I'd thank you. Even so I bet you mean it well.  Can you please be verbose?
[09:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell pawsilver about print
[09:21] <gnomefreak> Bergcube: the xchat that comes with dapper is not the normal xchat its xchat-gnome
[09:21] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.
[09:21] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /blah failed.
[09:21] <Bergcube> gnomefreak  Ah.  But I've searched  Synaptic for Xchat.....  Not there.  And Universe is enabled.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> Bergcube: sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:21] <gnomefreak> ^^^ its in the main repo
[09:21] <rewt_> Yorak does this /blah exist?
[09:22] <wastrel> is synaptic case sensitive?
[09:22] <wastrel> xchat
[09:22] <snoozix> gnomefreak: where's the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome?
[09:22] <schmity> hey
[09:22] <gnomefreak> snoozix: the lay out the look the feel
[09:22] <Yorak> what is /blah?
[09:22] <rewt_> Yorak, you tell me you said it
[09:22] <snoozix> gnomefreak: ah
[09:22] <rewt_> Where it's saving.
[09:22] <rewt_> Does this place exist?
[09:22] <Yorak> ohh no
[09:22] <snoozix> gnomefreak: but shift-enter still doesn't work in one of them?
[09:22] <rewt_> Try saving it to your desktop or home
[09:22] <Bergcube> I'll piss off and search again.  Thanks for your help gnomefreak.  You've explained what I need.
[09:22] <Yorak> it's just short for my directory
[09:22] <snoozix> gnomefreak: to send a line?
[09:22] <Yorak> and yes
[09:22] <bikini> anyone feel like helping me install enlightenment?
[09:22] <anders__> has anyone here got an Inspiron laptop running Ubuntu?
[09:22] <Yorak> it does exist
[09:22] <gnomefreak> snoozix: shift and enter?
[09:23] <_jason> anders__: yes
[09:23] <Yorak> i created a folder called Scrots in /home/yorak/
[09:23] <gnomefreak> snoozix: i dont havea clue what shift-enter does
[09:23] <anders__> _jason: with an ATI card?
[09:23] <rewt_> anders__, i have
[09:23] <snoozix> gnomefreak: try ending a line with "?" and pressing enter -> when you still hold down the left shift key e.g. it won't be send.
[09:23] <_jason> anders__: nope, nvidia
[09:23] <Yorak> and I type scrot -c ~/Scrots
[09:23] <rewt_> anders__, I have with an ari card
[09:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell Yorak about enter
[09:23] <anders__> rewt_: what driver do you use?
[09:23] <rewt_> *ati
[09:23] <rewt_> What card?
[09:23] <ablomen> bikini, sudo apt-get enlightenment
[09:23] <gnomefreak> snoozix: i never had a problem endding with a ? and just hitting enter
[09:24] <rewt_> anders__, I didn't need any drivers.
[09:24] <anders__> rewt_: it's a 6000, and I think it is an X300 card
[09:24] <pawsilver> thanx guys
[09:24] <rewt_> what card is it anders__
[09:24] <snoozix> gnomefreak: i sometimes just still hold down the left shift key.
[09:24] <bikini> ablomen, what directory should i be in? home?
[09:24] <rewt_> try tuning off acceleration
[09:24] <rewt_> in xorg.conf
[09:24] <Yorak> So does anybody have a clue how to fix my scrot problem?
[09:24] <ablomen> bikini: doesnt mather, just open a terminal and type what i just typed
[09:25] <rewt_> go down to your card and right after it add         option     "noaccel"
[09:25] <anders__> rewt_: I think it is Radeon X300
[09:25] <snoozix> gnomefreak: irssi is great.
[09:25] <LabThug> I have a file with a list of files (one per line).  I want to mv those files to another directory (and leave the other files in the directory alone), anyone know how to do that?   mv --target-directory=/new/path `cat file`    maybe ????
[09:25] <gnomefreak> i love it :)
[09:25] <snoozix> gnomefreak: i'm using it since many years :)
[09:25] <rewt_> yea turn accel off and see what that does
[09:25] <gnomefreak> i started maybe a month or so ago
[09:25] <snoozix> gnomefreak: but i'm using xchat as a secondary client for freenode
[09:25] <snoozix> gnomefreak: my primary just runs in ircnet.
[09:25] <anders__> rewt_: It _is_ Radeon X300
[09:25] <gnomefreak> snoozix: my secondary is bitchx
[09:25] <zumo> anyone can tell me how i update firefox 1.07 to 1.5.01 ?
[09:25] <rewt_> anders__, do what I said
[09:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zumo about ff1.5
[09:26] <snoozix> gnomefreak: i used bitchx for years, but it's no real alternative if you know irssi imo.
[09:26] <bikini> i get an error that says "E: invalid operation enlightenment"
[09:26] <gnomefreak> zumo: read the pm ubotu sent you
[09:26] <anders__> rewt_: ehh.. what did you say?
[09:26] <rewt_> go down to your card and right after it add         option     "noaccel"
[09:26] <anders__> ahh
[09:26] <anders__> sorry
[09:26] <Mosi_> !tell mosi_ about ff1.5
[09:26] <rewt_> in xorg.conf
[09:26] <_jason> LabThug: sounds reasonable
[09:26] <snoozix> bikini: then you do something definitely wrong.
[09:26] <anders__> saw it now :-)
[09:26] <rewt_> :)
[09:26] <[blah] > wow! this thing is great
[09:26] <bikini> snoozix, like what? i just installed 5.10 today
[09:26] <ablomen> yea irssi-text is cool, together with screen you can just leave it on and always connect to it wherever you are
[09:26] <LabThug> _jason: cool,  is there a "better" way to do it?
[09:27] <rewt_> blah fix it?
[09:27] <rewt_> what did you end up doing?
[09:27] <[blah] > I never expect a linux desktop so smooth
[09:27] <gnomefreak> bikini: did you install enlightenment?
[09:27] <snoozix> bikini: "apt-get enlightenment" won't work because enlightenment is not a command for apt-get.
[09:27] <Mosi_> can anyone help me get my sound up and working?
[09:27] <shanonx> rewt_ and gnomefreak:  Well, I got grub off my MBR, just so you guys know WINXP users have to insert their install disk and restart to run FIXMBR, thank you for all your help, and maybe someday I will be back to Ubuntu after PCIexpress and my NIC is more supported.
[09:27] <snoozix> !sound
[09:27] <ubotu> sound is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:27] <ablomen> bikini: woops sorry "apt-get install enli..."
[09:27] <_jason> LabThug: I don't know of something I would consider ``better''
[09:27] <gnomefreak> bikini: use synaptic to grab enlightenment
[09:27] <Mosi_> snoozix: thanks
[09:27] <[blah] > rewt_ not really. But I'm okay now.  At 1024x768 it looks good so I'm going to leave it.
[09:28] <LabThug> _jason: no problem.  I'll give this a shot
[09:28] <rewt_> shanonx, no probelm :) Glad you got it fixed and sorry you couldnt stick with ubuntu
[09:28] <[blah] > refresh rate is low though (60)
[09:28] <rewt_> [blah] , alright
[09:28] <rewt_> [blah] , mine too. it's at 59 I don't know how to resolve that issue?
[09:28] <stephans> does anyone know how to change the default character encoding in the gnome terminal.
[09:28] <stephans> ?
[09:28] <dylan_> i popped in the Live CD in my computer and I only get 800x600 resolution....on Windows I could get 1024x768....is this because the live cd has less drivers, or do i just need to do a xserver-xorg configure?
[09:29] <bikini> ablomen, i just installed it.. now what?
[09:29] <[blah] > It doesn't look that bad.  Im not going to worry about it for now.
[09:29] <erez> !tell erez about ff1.5
[09:29] <gnomefreak> stephans: edit>current profile
[09:29] <bikini> update gdm?
[09:29] <[blah] > How do I install new software (opera to be specific) is there a package manager anywhere?
[09:29] <stephans> ok
[09:29] <[blah] > this thing was easier to install then windows!
[09:29] <anders__> rewt_: added the option. do I have to boot, or can I restart X?
[09:29] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.
[09:29] <timfrost> !opera
[09:29] <ubotu> opera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[09:29] <gnomefreak> bikini: log out and on the log in page click sessiond and enlightenment will be there
[09:29] <LabThug> [blah] : look for Synaptic under System->Administration
[09:30] <LabThug> However, you need to read that wiki as Opera needs some tweaking to be installed
[09:30] <[blah] > although it did take a while at the end and the live disc didn't work
[09:30] <snoozix> [blah] : ftp://netmirror.org/opera/linux/852/final/en/i386/shared/opera_8.52-20060201.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[09:30] <VR_> how would i check which kernel version i am using?
[09:30] <dylan_> can anybody help me?
[09:30] <snoozix> [blah] : but maybe you want to use static
[09:30] <_jason> VR_: uname -r
[09:30] <LabThug> snoozix: 9.0 TP 2 is out now
[09:30] <snoozix> LabThug: 9.0 of what?
[09:30] <VR_> thanks _jason
[09:30] <LabThug> snoozix: Opera
[09:31] <snoozix> oh
[09:31] <rewt_> [blah] , I know how to edit your refresh rate
[09:31] <rewt_> try this
[09:31] <LabThug> snoozix: http://labs.opera.com
[09:31] <Guillaume> Is it possible that the ntp server of ubuntu.org come busy sometimes ?
[09:31] <tiglionabbit> I would like to share something
[09:31] <bikini> enlightenment wasn't an option in the session box
[09:31] <rewt_> [blah] ,
[09:31] <rewt_> Open xorg.conf and add this line to section "device":
[09:31] <rewt_> Option "IgnoreEDID" "on"
[09:31] <rewt_> Save
[09:31] <rewt_> Restart the xserver, open System->Preferences->Screen Resolution, change the refresh rate.
[09:31] <andyross> Guillaume: use pool.ntp.org -- better than any single service.
[09:32] <Guillaume> thx andyross
[09:32] <[blah] > rewt_ how?
[09:32] <stephans> gnomefreak, there is no option for chartacter encoding and you can not delete the utf8 one...
[09:32] <rewt_> [blah] , how what?
[09:32] <wastrel> refresh rate eh.  mine says 50hz
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> my computer was going very very slow when I came back to it today.  So I decided to run "top".  The top line consistently displayed java-vm as taking 80% cpu to do nothing
[09:32] <rewt_> wastrel, that's low
[09:32] <VR_> this is kinda weird. uname -v gives the date, and -r gives the version, even though in the description for the -v attribute it says, "print the kernel version"
[09:32] <stephans> gnomefreak, under set character encoding option under terminal
[09:32] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.
[09:32] <wastrel> rewt_:  looks fine to me?  heh i never think about these things
[09:33] <wastrel> rewt_:  it's a LCD
[09:33] <[blah] > rewt_ [blah] , I know how to edit your refresh rate
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[09:33] <gnomefreak> stephans: yeah thats where it is :( sorry i was thinking of something else
[09:33] <bikini> ablomen, enlightenment didn't come up in the sessions box.. is there something else i have to do?/
[09:33] <rewt_> wastrel, mine says the same as yours and it's lcd
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> at configure have this error:
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[09:33] <rewt_> but that's low
[09:33] <Guillaume> andyross: if i change the address right now, what is the command to reload the ntp service ?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> stephans: but it looks like you will have to add or remove ones you want to use
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> i have libqt4-core
[09:33] <Guillaume> andyross: without havin to reboot
[09:33] <ablomen> bikini: are you shure it installed right?
[09:33] <rewt_> [blah] , scroll up i told you the steps how to
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm don1t understand why it needs qt...
[09:33] <zumo> do anyone know why firefox cant be updated via apt-get? cant be arsed going through that guide :S
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me
[09:33] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.
[09:33] <rewt_> about editing xorg
[09:34] <gnomefreak> zumo: it cant be
[09:34] <andyross> "/etc/init.d/ntpd restart" should work.  There's a wrapper for that, but I don't remember it.
[09:34] <bikini> ablomen, i did "sudo apt-get install enlightenment" and it finished.
[09:34] <Guillaume> thx andy!
[09:34] <zumo> heap of bollocks :(
[09:34] <mzuverink> anyone else having failure message during boot up when syncing time to ntp.ubuntu.org?
[09:34] <ablomen> bikini: ok that should have worked.. whitch version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:34] <bikini> 5.10
[09:34] <timfrost> Yorak, is there an existing *directory* named /home/yorak/blah?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> zumo: too many things depends on 1.0.7 so you would have to run them side by side
[09:35] <[blah] > rewt_ where do I add that (what section)
[09:35] <dylan_> i popped in the Live CD in my computer and I only get 800x600 resolution....on Windows I could get 1024x768....is this because the live cd has less drivers, or do i just need to do a xserver-xorg configure?
[09:35] <ablomen> bikini: on a normal x86 pc?
[09:35] <bikini> amd64
[09:35] <zumo> mzuverink: i have that to
[09:35] <lsuactiafner> dylan_ : press control alt plus and minus
[09:35] <eugman> Hey is there a way tohave my compter log into my account automatically after a time but have the screen be locked?
[09:35] <dylan_> lsuactiafner, thanks....i hope that works.
[09:35] <mzuverink> zumo: do you have ntp installed, if yes did you notice that the ubuntu server is no longer listed?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> dylan_: under system>prefferences it does say screen resolution?
[09:36] <lsuactiafner> dylan_ : also a live cd uses default drivers to work on almost any pc, an install would chose optimal drivers for your pc
[09:36] <ablomen> bikini: ok.. well it worked for me on a x86 and i have no idea why it doesnt work, you could try a reboot just for the sake of it..
[09:36] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.
[09:36] <Yorak> I have install scrot but when I try to take one it says: giblib error: saving to /home/yorak/blah failed.
[09:36] <bikini> i'll try that.
[09:36] <dylan_> lsuactiafner, i normally have it at 1024x768 tho....
[09:36] <ablomen> bikini: ok good luck
[09:36] <_jason> Yorak: there is no need to repeat your question like that
[09:36] <zumo> mzuverink: i havent checked. the syncronisation never bothered me
[09:36] <dylan_> lsuactiafner, it only let me do 800x600
[09:36] <_jason> Yorak: I know you've been asking for a while, no one probably knows the answer.  Try posting at ubuntuforums.org or searching wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <Yorak> Nobody is acknowledging that I'm asking.
[09:37] <lsuactiafner> dylan_ : install ubuntu and quit screwing around with a livecd
[09:37] <Yorak> A simple "I don't know Yorak" would be sufficient.
[09:37] <dylan_> lsuactiafner, that should work, right?
[09:37] <[blah] > umm I can't su.  Is there a default su password?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> [blah] : sudo not su
[09:37] <maciej__> sudo -s -H
[09:37] <dylan_> [blah] , do sudo passwd root, sometimes helps
[09:37] <_jason> Yorak: do you think it's feasible to have 600 people respond ``I don't know'' to every question?
[09:37] <aganda> hello, has anybody using ubuntu on a 486 dx4 100 mhz??
[09:38] <gnomefreak> [blah] : dont do that
[09:38] <dylan_> lsuactiafner, can you guarantee me that it will work as you say it will by simply installing it?
[09:38] <eugman> aganda whats the memory?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> there is a reason why su is disabled
[09:38] <rewt_> [blah] , under your card
[09:38] <zumo> aganda: i tried on a 66 mhx :P
[09:38] <mzuverink> is there gnome 2.14 repos's somewhere?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> mzuverink: no
[09:38] <aganda> zumo: and its ok?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> 2.14 isnt out yet
[09:39] <[blah] > dylan_, gnomefreak its prompting me for a password that i don't have
[09:39] <zumo> aganda: its long time ago. seemed fine. a bit slow tho
[09:39] <gnomefreak> [blah] : your user password
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell [blah]  about rootsudo
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu thanks
[09:39] <ubotu> gern geschehen, gnomefreak
[09:39] <mzuverink> gnomefreak: whats the current version in ubuntu?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> 5.10
[09:39] <lsuactiafner> are nfs transfers between my two ubuntu boxes on a lan ipv6 or ipv4?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> current stable version
[09:39] <eugman> Anyone know how to monitor the bandwidth usages of the different apps?
[09:40] <anders__> my lspci says "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5460
[09:40] <anders__> " is this bad?
[09:40] <[blah] > Im getting subo not found now
[09:40] <[blah] > err sudo
[09:40] <_jason> [blah] : sudo not subo
[09:40] <aganda> zumo: thanks i'm glade to know that. and which version was runningon?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> eugman: there are a few different ones open synaptic and search for bandwidth should pull them up
[09:40] <mzuverink> gnomefreak: gnome is 2.12.1? is there a more current version?
[09:40] <OmegaAlpha> i see someone is also having trouble with their ati card
[09:40] <gnomefreak> mzuverink: not for 5.10
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : run update-pciids
[09:41] <zumo> i dont remember. i used kernel 2.4 i think, and no gui
[09:41] <mzuverink> gnomefreak:thanks
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> and then lspci again
[09:41] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : and that output means you got new hardware not in your old database update-pciids will upgrade for you
[09:42] <aganda> zumo: thanks again
[09:42] <OmegaAlpha> how do i find out what exact model my video card is so i can search ATI's website for support
[09:42] <gnomefreak> OmegaAlpha: lspci
[09:42] <rewt_> lspci
[09:42] <OmegaAlpha> so far i know mine is ATI Radeon mobility  U1 with the lspci command
[09:42] <[blah] > sudo: root: command not found
[09:42] <rewt_> if it says unknown do   'sudo update-pciids'
[09:42] <gnomefreak> [blah] : no root
[09:42] <OmegaAlpha> in xorg.cong under its device section it says Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 320M (RS200 IGP)
[09:43] <rewt_> [blah] , sudo is root lol......
[09:43] <gnomefreak> [blah] : sudo than the command whatever it is you are trying to run
[09:43] <[blah] > oh i get it.
[09:43] <gunslinger> hi guys
[09:43] <rewt_> [blah] , okay.
[09:43] <[blah] > A little aqward, but I get it
[09:43] <OmegaAlpha> so what does the 320M mean and the RS200 IGP
[09:43] <rewt_> Hi gunslinger
[09:43] <rewt_> that's your card type OmegaAlpha
[09:43] <eugman> gnomefreak: The descirptions are a bit much to wade trhough. Do you know of a graphical one that can show different apps or at least ports?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> OmegaAlpha: i heard that update-pciids will update the info that lspci putsout
[09:44] <OmegaAlpha> yeah i just read that on linuxforum.org
[09:44] <gnomefreak> eugman: not off hand i dont need them
[09:44] <gunslinger> i recently compiled and successfully installed the vanilla kernel with ck patchset. however it said my stack buffers are 4k and i need to change them to 8k, im having memory issues and program crashes, any idea how i can change the stack sizes?
[09:44] <anders__> lsuactiafner: thanks. does this change the way things work, or does it just recognize the card?
[09:45] <OmegaAlpha> would steps to solve this prob in Suse also work in Ubuntu/Debian
[09:45] <gnomefreak> OmegaAlpha: i dont think so
[09:45] <nico_be> hi
[09:45] <[blah] > rewt_, do I restart once I do that?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ok time for me to get some work done by all
[09:46] <gunslinger> bye man
[09:46] <[blah] > I also changed the refresh rate in my xorg.org
[09:46] <OmegaAlpha> rewt_, that reason i was askign is because when i do a search in ATI's site -Radeon Mobility there are different kinds
[09:46] <Mosi_> anyone know why, when i install Firefox 1.5 and try to run it, i get the error '/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 166: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file'?
[09:46] <OmegaAlpha> so then i added U1 to it and it returns no results
[09:47] <regeya> d:)
[09:47] <bosco> how do i get mplayer or ogle working in ubuntu correctly
[09:47] <CrAzYoNi> How can I install a new font (Hebrew font) into the Ubuntu 5.10 system?
[09:47] <regeya> bosco: that depends on what you mean by "working in ubuntu correctly"
[09:47] <_jason> CrAzYoNi: is it a true type font?
[09:48] <adam_> hello i'm trying to get gcc to work; this is the first time i've used ubuntu; i've searched for gcc and can see folder whch have it in however typing gcc i get an error no susch command found . can anyone help
[09:48] <nico_be> anyone knows which soft i can use to transform a bunch of FLAC files into a single big ogg one (without gaps) so I can play it gapless on a non-gapless player?
[09:48] <_jason> Mosi_: did you follow the wiki?
[09:48] <CrAzYoNi> I just copied it from my Winbloz box, Arial true type font :)
[09:48] <bosco> regeya,  how do i install it via apt-get
[09:48] <_jason> CrAzYoNi: put it in ~/.fonts
[09:48] <Mosi_> _jason: i did
[09:49] <_jason> Mosi_: that's a really weird error
[09:49] <regeya> bosco: all I mean is that you need to be more specific about your problem
[09:49] <lsuactiafner> anders__ : just recognises the card
[09:49] <Mosi_> _jason: yeah it is, and now i have no browser :(
[09:49] <motionblur> hi people, i'm running automatix right, and it's taking a loooot of time... just curious how long approximately the whole install process takes on a 900mhz athlon
[09:49] <lsuactiafner> what card do you have?
[09:49] <_jason> Mosi_: it ahppens when you do '/opt/firefox/firefox' too?
[09:49] <Mosi_> _jason: i didn't get the error until after i dpgk-diverted all my links and scripts and stuff
[09:49] <CrAzYoNi> thank you :)
[09:50] <lsuactiafner> motionblur : will be quick enoguh not to be painfull, i did it on a duron 950 and didnt notice it being slow
[09:50] <Mosi_> _jason: yeah
[09:50] <regeya> so very frustrating when you point out to someone that they need to be specific and then they clam up...I bet the guy's running around to other channels/servers saying "how do I get ogle and mplayer working correctly" *sigh*
[09:50] <motionblur> here it's taking more than 1,5 hour
[09:50] <_jason> Mosi_: you sure the tar.gz downloaded completely?
[09:51] <Mwongozi> Good afternoon all. I have what I hope isn't a stupid question.
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu mplayer package sucks, it shouldnt be part of ubuntu, giving ubuntu and mplayer a bad name
[09:51] <Mosi_> jason: not entirely sure, but i don't have any reason to think i didn't
[09:51] <Mwongozi> Can I change the resolution the grub boot menu is displayed in? I want to connect my PC to my HDTV, but the TV won't display the boot menu because the resolution is too low...
[09:51] <Mosi_> jason: should i download it agian and unzip it to /opt?
[09:51] <motionblur> i'm starting to think that something went wrong maybe... the install bar isn't a real progress bar so I don't know what to do
[09:52] <CrAzYoNi> I don't have ~/.fonts folder :\
[09:52] <bosco> regeya,  here is the link  http://pastebin.com/560136
[09:52] <_jason> Mosi_: it's worth a try, but just extract it to a folder in your home directory.  Like maybe ~/firefoxtemp, and then run ~/firefoxtemp/firefox to see if it throws the error.  If it doesn't, then do the wiki again with the new download
[09:52] <Mosi_> _jason: thanks
[09:52] <_jason> CrAzYoNi: mkdir ~/.fonts
[09:52] <adam_> hi can anyone help me getting gcc to work, is it pre installed or do i need to get it myself?
[09:53] <_jason> adam_: you need to install the build-essential package
[09:53] <bosco> adam_,  synaptic
[09:53] <CrAzYoNi> kk
[09:53] <jrattner1> How can I convert an openoffice (.odt) to microsoft word?
[09:54] <cafuego> jrattner1: Save as Word from within OpenOffice.
[09:54] <_jason> jrattner1: file > save as> choose microsoft word
[09:54] <jrattner1> thank you
[09:54] <adam_> jason: can u get that package from the add applications menu?
[09:54] <setuid> How does one build a .deb from a compiled source tree? There's some fu for it... debian-builder?
[09:54] <Cryptid> Is there any external drivers to be loaded so that my onboard graphics will be properly utilised by Linux i have a Interl 915GAV mobo and in Windows i had to load the GMA 900(Graphic media accelerator 900) drivers seperatly.I feel my Onboard graphics are not being utilised properly(the visuals in totem are laggy and very bad) so please help me
[09:54] <_jason> adam_: I don't know if it is there, it is definitely in synaptic though
[09:54] <charlie> bash: gcc: command not found
[09:54] <cafuego> setuid: The easiest way is 'checkinstall'
[09:54] <setuid> Cryptid: Probably unsupported
[09:54] <charlie> What package do I need to fix this?
[09:54] <_jason> charlie: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:54] <charlie> ta
[09:55] <adam_> jason: neebe question i sopose but how do i access synaptic - i've been using ubuntu for about an hour now
[09:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell adam_ about synaptic
[09:55] <bosco> regeya,  here is the link to my problem http://pastebin.com/560136
[09:56] <Cryptid> setuid, probably unsupported?? now what do i do,,, i've intel posters and banners saying that they support Linux so y arnt the onboard graphics supported properly???
[09:56] <MrFreeBird> hi guys. how can I create mp3 files from audio cd?
[09:56] <bikini> ablomen: no such luck with that reboot
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: grip
[09:56] <bosco> how do i apt-get mplayer
[09:56] <setuid> Cryptid: Is *THAT* model of card supported by Intel's drivers?
[09:56] <mzuverink> I have spamassassin installed and do not seem to be connecting to any servers, usually spamassassin has a host file in the .spamassassin directory in user home.  Is there anything I need to do to get spamassassin funning, specificall spamd?
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> !tell bosco about mplayer
[09:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell bosco about mplayer
[09:57] <_jason> uh oh getting slow
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[09:57] <bikini> does anyone know how to install enlightenment on 5.10, amd64?
[09:57] <MrFreeBird> cdda2mp3 does work? I would like to make it from a terminal
[09:57] <bosco> how do i apt-get mplayer
[09:58] <monger> apt-get install mplayer ;)
[09:58] <_jason> bosco: check out your private messages from ubotu
[09:58] <xnull> need to enable the multivers rep.
[09:58] <[blah] > rewt_ it works now with a better refresh
[09:58] <robinl1> shamper
[09:58] <perdu> GNUPG?
[09:58] <Cryptid> setuid, hmm yes i got all the drivers on a CD with the mobo
[09:59] <MrFreeBird> I would like to create mp3 files using console command
[09:59] <gunslinger> anyone know how i can change the kernel buffer stack size from 4k to 8k?
[09:59] <rewt_> [blah
[09:59] <rewt_> what?
[09:59] <robinl1> Shamper means: OMFGIHAVENONSENSETHISISNONSENSEIHAVENOTHINGTOTELLOMFGTHISROXJ0000RBIGAZZLOLOMFGBBQ!!!THEBBQHASARRIVEDOMFGLOL
[09:59] <MrFreeBird> hatake_kakashi, did you know how can I do it via console?
[09:59] <rewt_> my thing I told you to do worked?
[09:59] <setuid> Cryptid: Oh, so the motherboard came with a CD that included Linux drivers?
[09:59] <setuid> gunslinger: why would you want to?
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> MrFreeBird: probably with mplayer
[10:00] <rewt_> [blah] , the thing I told you to do worked?
[10:00] <Cryptid> setuid, oh no the mobo came with cd for drivers supporting only Windows not linux
[10:00] <gunslinger> because after i set up vanilla kernel, it warned me that 4k buffer size plus my drivers were not compatible and i would get crashes
[10:00] <gunslinger> and i am
[10:00] <gunslinger> im just not sure where to go
[10:00] <setuid> Cryptid: So download the drivers for it from Intel's website.
[10:00] <setuid> You said Intel supported it.
[10:01] <[blah] > rewt_, yes.  I also edited the refresh rate in xorg.conf
[10:01] <rewt_> can you now edit refresh rate in your system setting?
[10:02] <rewt_> under screen resolutions
[10:02] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:02] <rewt_> what did you set your refresh rate to?
[10:02] <darkfusion> hello guys
[10:02] <[blah] > why is mysql 4 the latest ver in the package manager?  I just did edit -> reload pkg info and it is the same
[10:02] <[blah] > rewt_,  I set it to 50 - 80  (verticle)
[10:02] <darkfusion> i'm having a problem burning dvds
[10:02] <noteventime> Is there a repositry that has the newest version of the mesa libraries
[10:02] <[blah] > I left the horizontal
[10:02] <xualo> whats better mplayer of xine?
[10:02] <rewt_> Still got the steps written down? I was just guessing?
[10:02] <setuid> gunslinger: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-22581.html
[10:02] <rewt_> im going to do it now :-P
[10:03] <_jason> xualo: it's the one you like, try them both
[10:03] <darkfusion> both k3b and gnomebaker dont wanna burn dvds , I keep getting errors
[10:03] <[blah] > rewt_, hold on I'll pastebin what I have
[10:03] <rewt_> k
[10:03] <gunslinger> setuid: thanks ill try it out
[10:03] <setuid> gunslinger: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0202.1/0160.html
[10:04] <setuid> gunslinger: You'll get a 5% performance drop for using 8k stacks though
[10:04] <gunslinger> ok i understand
[10:04] <gunslinger> thanks for the info
[10:04] <rewt_> [blah] , id you do this , Option "IgnoreEDID" "on"
[10:04] <darkfusion> can anybody help me ?
[10:05] <rewt_> darkfusion, with?
[10:05] <[blah] > rewt_,  http://pastebin.com/560161
[10:05] <darkfusion> i cant seem to burn dvds
[10:05] <[blah] > I don't know what the IgnoreEDID is but I did it
[10:05] <rewt_> [blah] , can you go into screen resolution settions and change your refresh rate?
[10:06] <setuid> darkfusion: growisofs
[10:06] <darkfusion> i need to make data dvds
[10:06] <noteventime> Please is there a debian/(k)ubuntu repositry with the newest mesa?
[10:06] <setuid> darkfusion: man growisofs
[10:06] <[blah] > rewt_, yes, just make sure you put in something your monitor supports
[10:07] <[blah] > Most tubes support 50 - 80 but if you are not sure check the sticker on the back of your monitor or your manufaturs website
[10:07] <rewt_> what size monitor you got?
[10:07] <[blah] > 17" AOC
[10:07] <rewt_> what should i put mine at as a widescreen 15"
[10:08] <[blah] > what type of monitor is it?
[10:08] <rewt_> I dunno? laptop here
[10:08] <[blah] > Oh, LCD.
[10:08] <[blah] > hrmm.. What type of laptop?   (make model)
[10:08] <wastrel> lcd babby
[10:08] <xualo> can you run ubuntu 32-bit depth colour?
[10:08] <rewt_> Compaq Presario V2000
[10:08] <[blah] > glass is better wastrel
[10:09] <[blah] > Lets see what google says
[10:09] <wastrel> blah there's glass in a LCD
[10:09] <rewt_> wast how's your refresh rate going?
[10:09] <rewt_> mine's slow
[10:09] <rewt_> >.<
[10:09] <wastrel> rewt_:  i'm not messing with it.
[10:09] <wastrel> rewt_:  the display looks fine to me....
[10:10] <rewt_> lol and your refresh?
[10:10] <xualo> anyone?
[10:10] <MonoNoSaint> night
[10:10] <wastrel> rewt_:  the gnome screen resolution prefs says 50
[10:10] <MonoNoSaint> hey, I've heard about compiz and xgl on dapper repositories already...
[10:10] <MonoNoSaint> ... anyone can confirm that?
[10:11] <wastrel> !xgl
[10:11] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:11] <eobanb> xualo, i think you mean 24-bit
[10:11] <[blah] > rewt_, does it say anything on the stick on the bottom of the laptop?
[10:11] <calamari> hi
[10:11] <MonoNoSaint> hey, and should it work...
[10:11] <MonoNoSaint> ... without a 3d acceleration card?
[10:11] <rewt_> lol nope
[10:11] <MonoNoSaint> I have video on-board... :)
[10:11] <xualo> but its any possibility to run gnome with 32bit?
[10:12] <calamari> anyone know of a faster way to display remote programs than ssh -X or vnc?  I'm not too worried about quality, just latency.
[10:12] <wickers> xualo, 32bit colour depth?
[10:12] <eobanb> xualo, you're talking about 24-bit colour, not 32-bit.
[10:12] <[blah] > rewt_ are you using a dual boot?
[10:12] <kyo> Hmm when I type in 'uptime' in bash, it says 3 users. but I'm the only one logged on this computer ... I have two other box that is up and running (windows) so should I be concern?
[10:12] <rewt_> yes
[10:12] <[blah] > what is your refresh rate in windows?
[10:12] <xualo> 32bit
[10:12] <MonoNoSaint> anyone know if xgl can work without an acceleration card?
[10:12] <wastrel> kyo:  do who
[10:12] <rewt_> looks around im one user on kyo, whos the other?
[10:13] <eobanb> 32-bit colour is really just 24-bit with 8-bit alpha channels.  to sort of answer your question, xualo, yes, you can do 24-bit colour, just like any other OS does 24-bit colour.
[10:13] <wastrel> kyo:  every terminal you have open is a user
[10:13] <regeya> calamari: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX?highlight=%28nx%29
[10:13] <kyo> Hmm I just have one terminal opened
[10:13] <kyo> ok
[10:13] <rewt_> kyo, just restart your computer
[10:13] <kyo> all three is my name
[10:13] <kyo> Hmm
[10:13] <rewt_> did it to me the other day
[10:13] <rewt_> same thing
[10:13] <kyo> hehe
[10:13] <rewt_> said one was on tty2
[10:13] <kyo> Ok, I'll reboot
[10:13] <kyo> brb
[10:13] <rewt_> k
[10:13] <wastrel> kyo:  your x session is one
[10:13] <xualo> so theres no much difference with 32bit and 24bit then...
[10:14] <wastrel> kyo:  your terminal is another
[10:14] <calamari> regeya: thanks.. will this work with a remote redhat machine?
[10:14] <ndw> Hey all. I screwed up my courage this afternoon and decided to give the dapper release a whirl. All seems fine to me. One odd bit, on boot (or reboot), /var/run/mysqld is only readable by mysql and root. That's preventing dspam from finding the mysqld.sock to connect to the database. I can fix the permissions by hand (and then things work) but (1) is that bad and (2) can I make it happen automatically if it isn't?
[10:14] <regeya> calamari: beats me!
[10:14] <[blah] > can vs swe (womens hockey for gold)
[10:14] <eobanb> xualo, correct.
[10:14] <anders__> I have installed the latest ATI drivers on my system, but how on earth do I configure them right?
[10:14] <lakcaj> [blah] , Canada will own
[10:14] <calamari> regeya: I'll try it then.. should be fun :)
[10:14] <[blah] > lakcaj, I know
[10:15] <xualo> eobanb xualo, correct.<--- cheers for that info
[10:15] <[blah] > Its good that sweden is in, maybe hockey will pick up in eu
[10:15] <DaSkreec1> _jason: That reboot worked
[10:15] <anders__> Don't think that my videos look good at all. Looks kinda like they have block-effects...
[10:15] <_jason> DaSkreec1: great
[10:15] <DaSkreec1> _jason: Thanks
[10:15] <[blah] > Im watching the can vs fin game now.  Finland is really holding their own.
[10:16] <next> do the xorg drivers for the FireGl not work with amd64 ubuntu?
[10:16] <wickers> Hey, ubuntu follows Gnome devel... but would ubuntu ever take some of the changed novell-gnome code before it get's put into gnome directly?
[10:17] <wickers> NLD10 will be very modded from standard gnome
[10:17] <next> i'm getting a no sreen found error.... I've installed my video drivers, can anyone help?
[10:18] <occy> boo
[10:19] <trappist> next: running dapper?
[10:19] <next> not familiar with dapper
[10:19] <noteventime> dapper rules :)
[10:20] <next> what is dapper?
[10:20] <next> !dapper
[10:20] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[10:20] <Jeriko-> morning
[10:20] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:20] <next> yeah, no i do not have dapper, i am using ubuntu 5.04 amd64/
[10:20] <Half-Left> Can anyone get the nvidia-settings to work in Dapper?
[10:21] <noteventime> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing... This is becauce of "old" mesa, right?
[10:21] <Jeriko-> is it true that dapper (or any release) does not ship with mp3 support?
[10:21] <_jason> Jeriko-: yes, you can enable it afterwards.  I'll send you a link to read about it
[10:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jeriko- about restricted
[10:21] <virogenesis> thats correct Jeriko-  ubuntu doesn't ship with mp3 support you have to add it
[10:22] <kyo> When I type 'uptime' it shows two users ... one being ':0' <-- thats root right?
[10:22] <wastrel> i'm installing tcsh
[10:22] <wastrel> kyo:  :0 is you X session
[10:22] <Jeriko-> ah i see, its not on the official cds, but in the repositories
[10:22] <wastrel> your
[10:22] <wickers> wastrel, bash is your friend :)
[10:22] <wickers> I've never liked tcsh
[10:23] <Jeriko-> so in general, how stable is dapper right now? is a installation worth it?
[10:23] <next> so my video card worked with x86 debain but i'm having troubles with it and ubuntu amd64. are the drivers not interchangable?
[10:23] <wickers> Jeriko-, it's worth waiting till the release
[10:23] <anders__> is there an ubuntu-ati kind of channel?
[10:23] <wastrel> wickers:  i got used to using bash, but just installed a program that needs csh for its startup script
[10:23] <kyo> wastrel, and what is pts/1?
[10:23] <blaz> Hello
[10:23] <kyo> hi blaz
[10:23] <wickers> wastrel, which program?
[10:23] <wastrel> kyo:  your terminal
[10:23] <wastrel> wickers:  vmz, molecular modelling
[10:24] <wastrel> er, vmd
[10:24] <wickers> wastrel, I feel that any program that depends on shell past /bin/sh could be done better.
[10:24] <kyo> I see
[10:24] <nitroXL> hello all .. does anyone know how can i see witch soundcard is located in /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2 and so on ... ?
[10:24] <wastrel> wickers:  you're free to take that up with the guys at the theoretical biophysics institute :] 
[10:25] <wickers> wastrel, heh
[10:25] <wastrel> wickers:  or i can mail you the script & you can rewrite it for me :] 
[10:25] <wickers> what in csh does it require?
[10:27] <next> can anyone help me with a "no screen found" error? i have my drivers installed.
[10:27] <rewt_> got a question
[10:28] <rewt_> do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v2000
[10:28] <wastrel> wickers:  i don't think it requires any particular feature, it's just written in it... setenv, if then endif, etc
[10:28] <wickers> neeja, it means something in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not configured correctly.
[10:28] <tepa> hello
[10:28] <wickers> err... not neeja
[10:28] <OmegaAlpha> anders__, i just know of #ati
[10:29] <wickers> I mean next
[10:29] <tepa> Anyone know if Java works in Ubuntu??
[10:29] <anders__> OmegaAlpha: Just entered the channel :-)
[10:29] <thomerz> hi, does anyone know, what keycode i have to insert into my xbindkeysrc for the windowskey?
[10:29] <rewt_> do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v2000
[10:30] <kyo> what does the | operator do in bash?
[10:30] <kyo> nevermind, I found it
[10:30] <OmegaAlpha> anders__, good luck... im trying to get my ATI card workign properly as well
[10:30] <existance> Can VLC play .mkv's ?
[10:30] <brieze> Hi all
[10:31] <Mullvalen> Hi
[10:31] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?
[10:31] <anders__> OmegaAlpha: Good luck to you too :-) Have you got xv video output working yet?
[10:31] <brieze> Is there a # us total noobs can go to to ask a question or is this it? :)
[10:31] <Mullvalen> Can someone help me with the Ubuntu installation?
[10:31] <eobanb> this is it.
[10:32] <existance> Can VLC play .mkv's ?
[10:32] <rewt_> Mullvalen, what abou it?
[10:32] <[blah] > what is a good php edito for ubunto?  (preferably non IDE)
[10:32] <eobanb> existance, i believe so.
[10:32] <Mullvalen> Im worried that i might delete all data i want to keep
[10:32] <DArtagnan> Hi peeps
[10:32] <eobanb> brieze, ask away
[10:32] <existance> eobanb, I'm trying to play one and it's not working.  Any idea where I could get the codec?
[10:32] <brieze> I've installed 5.10 last night and updated everything as suggested, but libpoppler don't want to
[10:32] <eobanb> Mullvalen, can you be more specific
[10:33] <brieze> I was busy , soz
[10:33] <Terminus> [blah] : vim! :)
[10:33] <eobanb> existance, does it play in totem-xine?
[10:33] <Mullvalen> Hehe, ok. I deleted the partion where i kept my windows...
[10:33] <[blah] > Terminus, haha  I can see me writting 1000 lines of code in vim
[10:33] <Mullvalen> and partioned the free space automatically
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?
[10:33] <[blah] > wait, vim, not vi
[10:33] <Terminus> [blah] : well, it's better than vi. :)
[10:33] <existance> eobanb, yes, but the subtitles are missing :/
[10:34] <[blah] > its the same thing isnt it?
[10:34] <eobanb> can't totem load subtitles?
[10:34] <DArtagnan> does anyone know of a Remote Desktop Client for Windoze  that I can use to access my Ubuntu system?
[10:34] <wickers> [blah] , most distros don't even have vi, it's just a simlink to vim
[10:34] <eobanb> DArtagnan, sure, any VNC client will do nicely.
[10:34] <Mullvalen> but then the mark (smiley) if i want to keep that partion something dissapeared in the partion i want to keep
[10:34] <rewt_> no
[10:34] <existance> eobanb, dunno
[10:34] <DArtagnan> any suggestion?
[10:34] <peter__> cannot use my HP Officejet G85, I'm really desperate
[10:34] <Terminus> [blah] : well, there's nvi that's supposed to be almost like the original vi. vim on the other hand is vi improved. :)
[10:35] <eobanb> DArtagnan, you could try RealVNC or TightVNC
[10:35] <[blah] > is there a way to have my pack manage NOT show KDE packages?
[10:35] <rewt_> Tight VNC should dothe trick
[10:35] <[blah] > I don't want a vi clone, I hate vi.
[10:35] <[blah] > I use emeditor in windows
[10:35] <rewt_> [blah] , use nano?
[10:35] <rewt_> or gedit
[10:35] <DArtagnan> kewl, thnx will give it a go. l8rs
[10:35] <eobanb> he's looking for a command-line text editor?
[10:35] <[blah] > rewt_, nano is for terminal.  I want something for X
[10:36] <ubuntu> hi all
[10:36] <[blah] > no eobanb something to code php in
[10:36] <Terminus> eobanb: he wants an editor for php that's not an IDE.
[10:36] <Terminus> [blah] : there's emacs. :)
[10:36] <[blah] > hi ubuntu
[10:36] <aganda> totem doesn't work to me, why something about codecs? but how?
[10:36] <ubuntu> hi [blah] 
[10:36] <_jason> aganda: by doesn't work do you mena just for some files?
[10:36] <ubuntu> I'm a noob and need some help with a grub error on a dual boot: win2k pro & ubuntu 5.04
[10:36] <brieze> Anyone here know how to get past them annoying 404 errors when you are trying to upgrade libpoppler0c2?
[10:36] <next> wickers, what what could i be looking to fix in Xorg.conf if i get the "no screen found" or is that somthing too broad to know
[10:36] <bliss> hello all
[10:37] <brieze> lo bliss
[10:37] <eobanb> [blah] , anything wrong with gedit?
[10:37] <bliss> brieze hello
[10:37] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can help me about the finding the problem in this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8794 ?
[10:37] <wickers> next, it could be a few things... manily display settings, video driver settings, modes... etc...
[10:37] <wickers> next, there's a lot to consider.
[10:37] <[blah] > eobanb, never tried it.  Does it colour encode php?
[10:37] <wastrel> apt-cache search php | grep editor
[10:37] <wickers> next, usually I find out what's up by reading the X server's log
[10:37] <next> yeah, figured it was something i would need tofigure myself.
[10:37] <wastrel> gedit is the "notepad" of gnome
[10:38] <eobanb> you mean syntax highlighting? i dont think so...
[10:38] <existance> can anyone recommend a video player that can handle .mkv?
[10:38] <aganda> it says this:"
[10:38] <aganda> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[10:38] <Kyral> VLC
[10:38] <next> ok, can it have anything to do with me using the amd64 and not x86?
[10:38] <bliss> newbie question what does the  command ps aux do
[10:38] <eobanb> bliss, it lists all running processes.
[10:38] <wickers> next, read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:38] <rewt_> anyone here play yahoo games in ubuntu? says i need java but how do i get it
[10:38] <wastrel> bliss:  shows you info on the running processes
[10:38] <TiNePaS> hi
[10:38] <wickers> next, it will be a bit more detailed then 'no screen found'
[10:38] <TiNePaS> I don't compile a kenrel module
[10:39] <next> sure... one last thing, is there a way to use irc via command line?
[10:39] <kyo> Hmm I forgot how to move files again. Is it "mv *.jpg /pictures"?
[10:39] <wickers> next, look for the lines with EE prepended to them, they are error lines.
[10:39] <wickers> next yes, irssi
[10:39] <_jason> aganda: what type of file is it?  have you installed totem-xine?  have you installed the w32codecs?
[10:39] <existance> Kyral, VLC won't play it :/
[10:39] <bliss> eobanb wasttreltheks
[10:39] <ubuntu> anyone know how to fix an "error 18" in grub on a dual boot?
[10:39] <wickers> next, #sudo apt-get install irssi
[10:39] <next> ok thanks a lot....
[10:39] <wastrel> kyo:  that's right but i don't think your pictures directory is in /
[10:39] <next> !irssi
[10:39] <ubotu> irssi is, like, http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[10:39] <Kyral> existance: oh you need something like libmatroska
[10:39] <bliss> "wastrel
[10:40] <kyo> Hmm ok
[10:40] <SuperNova> hi!
[10:40] <wickers> irssi + screen == love
[10:40] <next> !screen
[10:40] <ubotu> I heard screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[10:40] <bliss> does ps aux give a set of numerical numbers associated with processes
[10:40] <virogenesis> xgl + compiz = love :D
[10:40] <wastrel> i used to use screen before there were tabbed terminal emulators
[10:40] <SuperNova> have a question... is there any way to se what licens a software is released under when searching for it in synaptic 7apt-get?
[10:40] <kyo> wastrel, its still not working. So, "mv *.jpg /home/kyo/pictures"?
[10:41] <existance> kyral, I got libmatroska-dev, what else do i need to do?
[10:41] <wastrel> kyo:  that looks right
[10:41] <Kyral> existance: just libmatroska :D
[10:41] <existance> Kyral, but how do I get VLC to use it
[10:42] <Kyral> existance: it should pick it up automagically
[10:42] <bliss> so for example if you want to kill a process you would do something like -345 kill
[10:42] <kyo_> whee, irssi, lol
[10:42] <wastrel> kyo:  it's case-sensitive
[10:42] <existance> Kyral, err... the video still won't play :/
[10:42] <kyo_> I see
[10:42] <existance> Kyral, says unknown matroska header..
[10:42] <Kyral> existance: Ehh....then the file might be bad
[10:43] <existance> Kyral, I can open it in totem-xine, just can't get the subtitles as well :/
[10:43] <rewt_> do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v2000
[10:43] <kyo> wastrel, ah ok I got it. I typed in .jpg instead of .jpeg ... LOL.
[10:43] <wickers> I just don't understnd totem, or why people use it that is.
[10:43] <wickers> I stick with xine and mplayer
[10:43] <existance> wickers, can mplayer play .mkv?
[10:43] <wickers> depends
[10:43] <ivor> is there an option in gnome to display a windows dimensions as it's being resized?
[10:43] <wickers> if it has the right codecs, probably
[10:44] <wickers> the only thing totem does over xine that I know of is crash.
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> anders__, sorry i was afk. xv video output?
[10:44] <bliss> does ps aux give a set of numerical numbers associated with processes and so for example if you want to kill a process you would do something like -345 kill
[10:44] <alpha> am i in?
[10:45] <eobanb> bliss, yes
[10:45] <Half-Left> ivor, I dont think so but try in the gconf-editor
[10:45] <alpha> oh sweet!
[10:45] <alpha> wickers... thanks for the irssi tip.
[10:45] <OmegaAlpha> anders__, right now im installing the fglrx driver to see if that helps with my probs.
[10:45] <wastrel> fglrx eh
[10:45] <alpha> no need to keep going back to windows now...
[10:45] <ivor> Half-Left: ok. I'll have a rummage.
[10:45] <rewt_> anyone here been succesful with yahoo games needing java?
[10:45] <wickers> alpha, you were going back to windows for irc?
[10:45] <alpha> yeah.
[10:46] <rewt_> alpha ubuntu comes with Xchat
[10:46] <rewt_> which is irc
[10:46] <wickers> alpha, irssi, bitchx, and a few other CLI irc clients are useable with ubuntu
[10:46] <bliss> eobanb thanks ==whats to stp the process starting next time you reboot
[10:46] <alpha> i'm having videocard problems...
[10:46] <b1ind> i've got a peculiar problem: my Xorg log says direct rendering has been enabled and yet glxinfo disagrees
[10:46] <b1ind> I feel like I'm missing something somewhere (radeon 9200 w/ radeon driver)
[10:46] <eobanb> bliss, can you rephrase the question
[10:46] <ubuntu> could someone help me with a grub 'error 18' on a dual boot? I tried to change my bios, but that just made it an 'error 17'
[10:47] <alpha> do i need to diconnect to go back to my command line? or can i switch back and forth?
[10:47] <gighen> hi
[10:47] <bliss> eobanb -ok when you kill a process its dead for ever
[10:47] <donza> hello
[10:47] <_jason> alpha: use screen
[10:47] <donza> just installed dapper
[10:47] <wastrel> alpha:  are you in X windows?
[10:48] <hatake_kakashi> Is it possible to make ubuntu use nls_utf8 as default charset rather than nls_iso8859_1 and/or nls_cp437?
[10:48] <alpha> wastrel, no.
[10:48] <donza> im lovin' it.. like some slogan would say
[10:48] <wastrel> alpha:  you can get to a new terminal with alt-f2
[10:48] <alpha> screen
[10:48] <alpha> ?
[10:48] <wickers> with screen?
[10:48] <alpha> thats a keyboard keyright?
[10:48] <wickers> a new window?
[10:48] <hatake_kakashi> no
[10:48] <bliss> eobanb --what does kill do its stops a process or eliminates it
[10:49] <Xenguy> !tell alpha about screen
[10:49] <bla|patrick> hi
[10:49] <_jason> alpha: no it lets you run mutliple programs in one terminal, but you can just use alt+f2 I suppose
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> screen is a program, runs it like as if you are on another terminal when you are still on the same one
[10:50] <Half-Left> Alt f2, it's Ctrl, Alt to switch
[10:50] <Unity> how do i correct xserver settings, what is the command?
[10:50] <_jason> Half-Left: not if you are already in one
[10:50] <_jason> (both work)
[10:51] <Unity> like i want to set the dpi, monitor size, valid resolutions, etc
[10:51] <h0m35k1n> i'm getting a msg "make-kpkg: command not found" - how can I resolve this?
[10:51] <Half-Left> _jason, Alt dont work
[10:51] <hatake_kakashi> Is it possible to make ubuntu use nls_utf8 as default charset rather than nls_iso8859_1 and/or nls_cp437?
[10:51] <wastrel> alt works fine i just tried it
[10:51] <_jason> Half-Left: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1 then do alt+f2, should take you to tty2
[10:52] <wastrel> Unity:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:52] !lilo:*! services being restarted....apologies for any inconvenience
[10:52] <_jason> h0m35k1n: what are you trying to do?
[10:52] <Half-Left> _jason, yer, it does but only to another not all
[10:52] <john_> i am trying to add java support to firefox
[10:52] <h0m35k1n> build a deb file for a wireless driver
[10:53] <rewt_> do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v2000
[10:53] <_jason> Half-Left: right, it only let's you switch once you are not in X
[10:53] <ZerO_o> hi
[10:54] <b1ind> where would i get ipw2100 firmware from?
[10:54] <wickers> !java
[10:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:54] <john_> where is the command line access in ubuntu?
[10:54] <bla|patrick> hi
[10:54] <bla|patrick> hmmm
[10:54] <bla|patrick> have a problem
[10:54] <wastrel> john_:  applications>accessories>terminal
[10:54] <soundray> h0m35k1n, what WiFi chipset do you have?
[10:54] <hatake_kakashi> john_: Ctrl+Alt+Fx where x is number 1 to 7, 7 is the Xorg server
[10:54] <wickers> john, applications > accessories > terminal
[10:54] <h0m35k1n> rt61
[10:54] <YaST> Ppl I got a graphic card Intel 915GM and Im using i810 driver.. got 1080fps on glxgears and glxinfo shows that direct rendering is enable.. but I cant play video files correct.. it breaks alot... How can I solve this?
[10:54] <bla|patrick> if i plugin my asus wlan usb stick os fails booting with ohci_hcd failure
[10:55] <bla|patrick> it asks for different acpi or apic settings :|
[10:55] <john_> thanks! i'm sure i'll be back
[10:55] <h0m35k1n> it's a ralink one
[10:55] <bla|patrick> what can i do :|
[10:55] <YaST> I searched everywhere about this.. I even heard about a dri-i915 driver file but its a .rpm I tried converting it with alien and install it but still nothing works
[10:55] <soundray> h0m35k1n, are you following any particular instructions? Web? Readme file?
[10:55] <YaST> pls can someone help me?
[10:55] <Nogimics> if a download fails with wget in linux can you resume?
[10:55] <donofrio_> thats all....and its more than just samba, they do some parts but I need the other pieces I belive like ldap and kerb5 and such right?
[10:55] <ZerO_o> how to install the ati (radeon9800pro)-driver under ubuntu? i installed it successfully, but it doesn't seem to work. ...if i type "fglrxconfig" --> "Command not found"
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> Nogimics: yes man wget
[10:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell h0m35k1n about wireless
[10:56] <h0m35k1n> I've tried the ones with the install package from ralink but they don't work properly
[10:56] <donofrio_> need to be able to rid myself of microsoft on the backend
[10:56] <_jason> h0m35k1n: I have no experience with that but try to read the page ubotu sent you in a private message
[10:56] <donofrio_> how do I setup a box to be an active directory replica
[10:56] <hatake_kakashi> ZerO_o: I presume you did not follow the guide from the website?
[10:56] <h0m35k1n> kk
[10:56] <donofrio_> for dns and openldap, and other sevices
[10:56] <Engla> Nogimics: --continue seems to be an option that works. there's a long section about it in the manpage
[10:56] <YaST> Anyone with a 915GM graphic card with 128mb shared working 100% ?
[10:57] <Nogimics> Im a complete n00b so bare with me lol
[10:57] <ZerO_o> hatake_kakashi: i did it all. step for step.
[10:57] <Unity> how come when i use 2048x1536 desktop, the letters appear really big?
[10:57] <Nogimics> so if I type wget --continue http://www.xxx.xxx
[10:57] <Nogimics> that should work?
[10:57] <Engla> Nogimics: it's okay, it's great to learn stuff
[10:57] <hatake_kakashi> Nogimics: don't see why not
[10:57] <syllogism> I'm having trouble with ipw2200 driver. . It keeps telling me "Radio Frequency Kill Switch is on" - but I have no physical button for wireless. ..and never had this problem before on other distros
[10:57] <Engla> Nogimics: if you're  lucky. It might not find the original file
[10:57] <wickers> YaST, you gave your on board graphics controller 128megs?
[10:57] <wickers> YaST, you are nuts
[10:57] <hatake_kakashi> ZerO_o: I mean from the ubuntu website?
[10:58] <h0m35k1n> jason - I've read that but my EW-7128g card doesn't have a rt2500 chipset like that page says
[10:58] <YaST> wickers, shared yeh
[10:58] <Engla> Nogimics: basically, take the exact command you used but att --continue to it and it should work
[10:58] <Nogimics> it might not Engla?
[10:58] <h0m35k1n> it's a rt61 chip in it
[10:58] <Nogimics> att?
[10:58] <b1ind> I've compiled my own kernel and it is complaining about not finding the ipw2100 firmware, any suggestions?
[10:59] <ZerO_o> hatake_kakashi: i tryd this one: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/1503/1/Ati-Treiber-installiernschnell-und-einfach.html
[10:59] <Engla> Nogimics: sorry, add
[10:59] <Angel_Dex> Hello i just added ram and changed my CPU and now im getting kernal panic why so?
[10:59] <h0m35k1n> can you tell me how I can use the make-kpkg command
[10:59] <Engla> :)
[10:59] <Nogimics> :)
[10:59] <donofrio_> help
[10:59] <wickers> YaST, you should tone that mem down a bit, it's shared memory so you are just using up memory that could be used for applicaions or cache.
[11:00] <YaST> wickers, but still.. there is a way of putting it to work
[11:00] <YaST> cause ubuntu only recognizes 8mb's
[11:00] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  did you update?
[11:00] <YaST> of the 128mb
[11:00] <_jason> h0m35k1n: install kernel-package
[11:00] <yoyo> ?
[11:00] <Angel_Dex> IdleOne update how
[11:00] <wickers> you mean xorg, YaST,
[11:00] <YaST> cause im using i810 driver
[11:00] <lemsx1> ttyl
[11:00] <rewt_> do i needto be in my windows to do this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=v2000
[11:00] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  in terminal sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:00] <yoyo> hey... can anybody help me a little here
[11:00] <linub> bya all
[11:00] <_jason> !helpme
[11:00] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:00] <wickers> yast, look at the driver's docs, there should be a section on memory
[11:01] <yoyo> i'm having trouble with some ubuntu's applications
[11:01] <YaST> wickers, the problem is that I get 1080 fps on glxgears and glxinfo show direct rendering enable
[11:01] <Angel_Dex> IdleOne Um no i havent even been able to boot to ubuntu i get Kernal panic fatal exception in interupt
[11:01] <h0m35k1n> thanks jason :D
[11:01] <YaST> but playing videos
[11:01] <YaST> ... breaks all the time
[11:01] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  :(
[11:01] <YaST> like slowmotion :(
[11:01] <yoyo> opening gedit with an html file causes gedit to crash
[11:01] <eobanb> rewt_, all of those commands are entered in linux, not windows.  you just need the binary driver from windows for your chipset.
[11:01] <anders__> OmegaAlpha: I was afk, watching a video actually :-) The fglrx driver worked for me.
[11:01] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  Ummm re-install :/
[11:02] <Angel_Dex> IdleOne TT_TT I no wanna
[11:02] <yoyo> i type from a terminal #gedit file.html &
[11:02] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  lol I hear ya
[11:02] <yoyo> and gedit opens partially, then crashes
[11:02] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  maybe somebody can help sorry
[11:02] <Angel_Dex> IdleOne rebooting
[11:02] <IdleOne> ok
[11:02] <IdleOne> that may help
[11:02] <wickers> YaST, i'm getting ~700fps with glxgears using my 855gme video
[11:03] <YaST> y
[11:03] <YaST> but I cant play videos
[11:03] <wickers> videos?
[11:03] <wickers> are you using xv?
[11:03] <LinuxJones> clever: ;)
[11:03] <yoyo> anybody has a similar problem?
[11:03] <YaST> tried xv x11 , gl2 gl
[11:03] <YaST> nothing
[11:03] <yoyo> about crashes?
[11:03] <Nogimics> hatake_kakashi and Engla that worked thanks
[11:03] <YaST> :(
[11:03] <yanimax> I'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?
[11:03] <wickers> yast and it's not a codec problem?
[11:03] <Angel_Dex> IdleOne ok its saying i booted 34 times without a diskcheck and now its goign thru diskcheck and then it says a bunch of stuff and kernal panic
[11:03] <YaST> no
[11:03] <cfk> are the repos and kernels the same for ubuntu-server?
[11:03] <_jason> yoyo: does it give you errors?
[11:04] <yoyo> just crashes and a pop-up window appears
[11:04] <wickers> mmm.. I keep reading your nick and think I'm in #suse
[11:04] <cyphase> Is there a way to programatically access the text in the Notes tab in the Nautilus file properties window?
[11:04] <xualo> i installed xine and im running it but everytime i have to put in the terminal ./xine its theres any way to put an icon to the menu?
[11:04] <_jason> yoyo: does it do it with all files?
[11:04] <Angel_Dex> IdleOne =o its going now odd maybe it froze befor?
[11:04] <yoyo> nope... just with .html files
[11:04] <anders__> hmm. seems that the picture when I watch videos is better in xine than in VLC and mplayer. anyone got a clue as to why that can be?
[11:04] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  maybe let it boot up and see how it goes
[11:04] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Please help me! How can I make a boot CD from Ubuntu boot floppy?
[11:05] <yoyo> I have number lines activated and syntax highlighting
[11:05] <yoyo> I noted that 3 days ago
[11:05] <purplefeltangel> EVERY TIME i load up my computer my ethernet thing isn't configured anymore. what's wrong/ how do i fix it?
[11:05] <yoyo> then I run Nessus and clamav to check if something was wrong
[11:05] <_jason> yoyo: if you turn those features off does it still crash?
[11:05] <soundray> ltibor65, look at the -b option in mkisofs
[11:06] <IdleOne> purplefeltangel:  when rebooting check the save current setup box
[11:06] <yoyo> it could work... thing is
[11:06] <yoyo> it didn't crash before
[11:06] <yoyo> also I noted that cups is crashing when configuring the printer
[11:06] <bla|patrick> has anyone an idea whats meant by following failure: ohci_hcd *numbers* unlink after no irq? different acpi or apic settings may help
[11:06] <yanimax> apache2 tries to download .pl files instead of executing them, anyone knows what's wrong in my config ?
[11:07] <yoyo> and is the same kind of window:
[11:07] <purplefeltangel> idle0ne: thxu
[11:07] <bla|patrick> this message always appears if i plugin a usb device (mouse, wlanstick, keyboard)
[11:07] <IdleOne> purplefeltangel:  np hope that solves it for you
[11:07] <bla|patrick> bootprocess always fails :|
[11:07] <yoyo> The application "gedit" has crashed unexpectedly. You can inform the developpers...
[11:08] <yoyo> 3 options: restar appli, close appli, inform developers
[11:08] <_jason> yoyo: check .xsession-errors, don't know what else to tell you.  Haven't seen that kind of behavior before
[11:09] <anders__> anyone know of an ffdshow-like program for linux?
[11:09] <soundray> bla|patrick, apic and acpi options are set via kernel boot parameters. Edit the #kopts line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, adding e.g. "noapic". Then run update-grub and reboot.
[11:09] <yoyo> _jason, something curious:
[11:09] <_jason> yoyo: what if you run 'gedit file.html' without the &, do you then get some output on the terminal?
[11:09] <yoyo> when terminal regains control with some command
[11:09] <ubuntu> total noob here: I get an 'error 18' when booting using grub ... trying to dual boot win2k (I know ...) and hoary 5.04
[11:10] <ubuntu> can someone help?
[11:10] <ubuntu> thanks!
[11:10] <yoyo> it tells: [1] + Exit 1           gedit file.html (wd: ~/TEMP)
[11:10] <yoyo> and it tells also (wd nox: ~)
[11:10] <daiver> hello room
[11:10] <edude05> hey everyone
[11:10] <yoyo> what is the meaning of (wd now: ~)
[11:10] <cfk> what in dapper-server resets the video from vga=6 (25x80) to normal (25x40) ?
[11:11] <edude05> I need some help with XUbuntu
[11:11] <soundray> ubuntu, is this a fairly old machine?
[11:11] <ltibor65> soundray, at -b option is written that it set El Torito boot image name. But what mean this? And how to burn cd with it? Need I K3b?
[11:11] <_jason> yoyo: if I had to guess I would say working directory, but I have no clue
[11:11] <ubuntu> soundray, it's a dell dimension xps t600, pIII
[11:11] <daiver> Does anyone know what is the risk of uncommenting universe sources in sources.list?
[11:11] <edude05> it says kernel panic init attemped to kill its self
[11:11] <_jason> daiver: none
[11:11] <soundray> ltibor65, have you burned a CD before, and if so, what software did you use then?
[11:12] <ubuntu> I just installed a 160gb hd, with win2k in the 1st partition
[11:12] <yoyo> in .xsession-errors there's something about gnome-cups-icons:7229
[11:12] <daiver> _jason: why does it say in big capital letters that it's unsupported? Is it just a formality?
[11:12] <yoyo> it says IPP request failed with status 1280
[11:12] <LinuxJones> daiver: welcome
[11:12] <ltibor65> soundray, in Ubuntu k3b.
[11:13] <soundray> ubuntu, it's possible that your BIOS doesn't support a disk this big. Toggling LBA support in the setup may help.
[11:13] <YaST> so Does anyone has a 915GM graphic card working fine on ubuntu?
[11:13] <daiver> LinuxJones: Thanks!
[11:13] <charlie> Hello, I used to be able to play more than two sounds than once on ubuntu, I just recently got a new HDD so Ive done a fresh installion, I remember I had to download somethings and scripts, and when I wanted to boot up something with sound i typed aoss cmd etc
[11:13] <charlie> any ideas of what it was?
[11:13] <_jason> daiver: it's not officially supported.  The package in universe are from the MOTU, masters of the universe :).  It's very safe though, I'd say everyone ends up using them since they provide a lot of useful stuff
[11:13] <daiver> _jason: alrighty. thanks. needed to do that to install fglrx
[11:14] <edude05> Oh yeah and this is on an xbox
[11:14] <ubuntu> soundray, I tried what I thought was changing the bios, and it returned an 'error 17'. I switched back to 'auto' detect, and the 'error 18' returned
[11:14] <charlie> _jason, could you help me on my question, i think you helped me before on my last installion
[11:14] <yoyo> nope
[11:14] <yoyo> it still doesn't work
[11:15] <bla|patrick> crap :|
[11:15] <bla|patrick> disabled acpi and still the same error
[11:15] <daiver> YaST: Do you have the ATI card in there?
[11:15] <YaST> n
[11:15] <yoyo> tried just gedit file.html without & and still crashes
[11:15] <YaST> Intel 915GM
[11:15] <_jason> charlie: what 'it' are you looking for?
[11:15] <edude05> anyone?
[11:15] <YaST> 128mb shared graphic card
[11:15] <YaST> but xorg only detects 8mb
[11:15] <_jason> yoyo: but still no output to the terminal?
[11:15] <charlie> _jason,  I used to be able to play more than two sounds than once on ubuntu, I just recently got a new HDD so Ive done a fresh installion, I remember I had to download somethings and scripts, and when I wanted to boot up something with sound i typed aoss cmd etc
[11:15] <YaST> by i810 driver's default
[11:15] <Angel_Dex> Ok so i added ram and switched CPUs i boot up and it said 34 boots no disk check forcing one now it runs thru and gets stuck on kernal panic: fatal exception in interupt WTF is wrong?
[11:15] <daiver> YaST: I have the 915PM with the ATI x600 card and all I can say is that it is a headache.
[11:15] <yoyo> tried disabling syntax highligting and line numbering and still crashes
[11:16] <_jason> charlie: right, you want to know how to get the aoss command again?
[11:16] <charlie> and made sounds mix with it
[11:16] <charlie> with dmixer
[11:16] <charlie> etc
[11:16] <YaST> realy bummer :(
[11:16] <yoyo> in terminal?
[11:16] <soundray> ltibor65, you have to create an image file from the floppy with 'sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 of=bootfloppy.img'. In k3b, select "File - New Data CD Project", then "Project - Edit Boot Images". Load the floppy image in there, then burn the bootable CD.
[11:16] <yoyo> I just typed "gedit file.html"
[11:16] <rewt_> i installed java to play yahoo games
[11:16] <yoyo> that's a pity
[11:16] <rewt_> now when the game starts to load mozilla crashes
[11:16] <soundray> ltibor65, it may work without the sudo even
[11:16] <yoyo> ubuntu was working fine
[11:17] <rewt_> any ideas why
[11:17] <daiver> YaST: I've yet to find a distro that works on this laptop.  Im usually stuck with vesa and running 1024x768 on a 17" WUXGA :(
[11:17] <_jason> charlie: did you set your system up to use alsa already?
[11:17] <yoyo> now I can't even add my printer nor edit html in gedit
[11:17] <soundray> ubuntu, is this a fresh install?
[11:17] <ltibor65> soundray, thank , I try it.
[11:17] <charlie> _jason, It has alsa installed yes same as before
[11:17] <ubuntu> soundray, yes it is
[11:17] <YaST> I got my running with i810 drivers.. works fine
[11:17] <charlie> but I had to install aoss command or something to get it working
[11:17] <charlie> before
[11:17] <YaST> get 1080fps on glxgears and direct rendering is enable on glxinfo
[11:17] <YaST> but playing videos...
[11:17] <_jason> charlie: oh, it's the alsa-oss package that installs aoss command
[11:18] <rewt_> Mozilla crashes when java is done loading the game room....I just installed java...any ideas why it would crash?
[11:18] <soundray> ubuntu, I think you'll have to reinstall with LBA turned on. Old buggy BIOS's can be a pain.
[11:18] <charlie> _jason, then how do I do the dmixer settings
[11:18] <videofreak> why is linux so hard to use?
[11:18] <alpha> if i have a "no devices detected" error in xorglog, is that the monitor or vcard?
[11:18] <soundray> videofreak, computers are generally hard to use.
[11:19] <IdleOne> videofreak:  thats the fun part of linux
[11:19] <Angel_Dex> videofreak cuz windows is for the lazy
[11:19] <syyd> videofreak, you don't learn it overnite
[11:19] <Angel_Dex> Ok so i added ram and switched CPUs i boot up and it said 34 boots no disk check forcing one now it runs thru and gets stuck on kernal panic: fatal exception in interupt WTF is wrong?
[11:19] <_jason> charlie: that I don't know, my card mixed everything fine as soon as I setup alsa in system > prefs > multimedia systems selector.  The alsa site has a nice tutorial for setting up dmix though if you have to.  Or just try seeing if anyone else here has done it
[11:19] <rewt_> >.<
[11:20] <ZerO_o> re
[11:20] <charlie> _jason, Whats there website?
[11:20] <rewt_> ubotu tell me again about restricted formats
[11:20] <_jason> charlie: google alsa :)
[11:20] <eugman> How hard would it be to make a live cd with most of the easyubuntu stuff done to it?
[11:20] <rewt_> uboto tell me about Restricted Formats
[11:20] <rewt_> ubotu tell me about Restricted Formats
[11:20] <ubuntu> soundray, do you mean both os's? or just hoary 5.04?
[11:20] <_jason> charlie: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:20] <edude05> Can anyone help me?
[11:20] <IdleOne> !restrictedformats
[11:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:21] <yoyo> here's a thought: gnome-cups-add:10653: WARNING **: Two ppds have driver == 'hpijs'
[11:21] <soundray> ubuntu, if Windows boots, there's no need to reinstall.
[11:21] <Engla> eugman: it's not a bad idea to make an "ubuntu add-on pack" with lots of things we always install, like that stuff
[11:21] <alpha> how do i list my pci cards?
[11:21] <edude05> lspci
[11:21] <soundray> eugman, probably not too hard. Look at the package dfsbuild
[11:21] <yoyo> an hour ago I reinstalled hpijs from synaptic
[11:22] <rewt_> grr
[11:22] <ubuntu> soundray, windows doesn't boot, grub just stops the whole boot process at the error msg
[11:22] <yoyo> i'm trying to install an hp deskjet printer... nothing too complicated
[11:22] <rewt_> why would mozilla crash when loading java, eve after i installed java?
[11:22] <tritium_away> rewt_: how did you install java?
[11:23] <rewt_> through the restricted formats page
[11:23] <soundray> ubuntu, did you install Windows first, and did it boot?
[11:23] <kyo> can I surf the net on terminal? (text base obviously)
[11:23] <eugman> Do I need to make a temporarily main partition based swap for it to work?
[11:23] <soundray> !info links
[11:23] <yoyo> kyo: use lynx
[11:23] <ubotu> links: (Character mode WWW browser), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 375 kB, Installed size: 936 kB
[11:23] <charlie> Hello guys, does anyone here have a dmixer config to mix more than 1 sound with
[11:23] <_jason> kyo: lynx
[11:23] <rewt_> im just trying to play some yahoo games and it keeps crashing
[11:23] <kyo> ok
[11:23] <kyo> Hmm
[11:23] <ZerO_o> how to install the ati-radeon-9800-pro-driver? it doesn't really work. in gnome the resolution is ok (1248x1024), but if i try to run a benchmark or anything else, it returns "Failed" ..... why?
[11:24] <bla|patrick> is "dri" enabled in modules?
[11:24] <ubuntu> soundray, yes, and I did all the updates, to it before installing ubuntu in the new partition
[11:24] <bla|patrick> have u reconfigured xorg?
[11:24] <benanne> hello... would it be possible to stuff ubuntu onto a 600M vmware image? or is that impossible? I've tried it with some other distro's but either they don't fit or I can't get them configured properly
[11:24] <soundray> ubuntu, in that case, it'll probably be enough if you reinstall Ubuntu. It should then recognize the Win partition and make it bootable from the grub menu.
[11:24] <rewt_> tritium, any ideas why it would crash
[11:25] <tritium> rewt_: you built a .deb using java-package?
[11:25] <SuperNova> doesnt anyone know how you can se what licens a progr is released under in synaptic?
[11:25] <eugman> Ok I'm downloading dfsbuild . Anything special I need to do like make my ram+swap = 3GB or something?
[11:25] <rewt_> rewt i dunno
[11:25] <soundray> benanne, server installation should fit.
[11:25] <rewt_> tritium, i dunno
[11:25] <rewt_> i just did the installsuff
[11:25] <tritium> rewt_: you don't recall how you installed java?
[11:25] <ebdain> LiveCD fun:  Cannot get it to finish booting.  It will go through and detect everything, check the CD, get DHCP, flip to FB booting (modules and whatnot), load X, play the Ubuntu startup sound.  After that, the keyboard freezes (no lights work, etc.) but the mouse is working (so not hard-locked).  I have no desktop at all, and have to hit the reset button on the PC at that point.  I've tried a few boot-time options and still no love.
[11:25] <rewt_> tritium, i used the commands in restricted formats page
[11:25] <benanne> hmm... no need for servers though. The idea is to turn it into a ruby on rails development platform to use in college when I'm bored :) I recently found out that all PCs there have vmware player installed
[11:25] <yoyo> uummmm...
[11:26] <charlie> Hello guys, does anyone here have a dmixer config to mix more than 1 sound with, I have aoss installed etc
[11:26] <yoyo> any help out there... installing hp deskjet
[11:26] <yoyo> opening html files in gedit
[11:26] <eobanb> gedit in gnome 2.14 is going to rock
[11:26] <eobanb> http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/images/gedit.png
[11:26] <yoyo> no one else has crashes...?
[11:26] <rewt_> tritium, i did  sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[11:26] <rewt_> 
[11:26] <tritium> rewt_: ok
[11:27] <soundray> benanne, server is just a variation of the ubuntu install, where you don't have gnome packages. A fresh desktop install with gnome has about 1.5 GB.
[11:27] <benanne> oh, I see
[11:27] <benanne> okay :)
[11:27] <cfk> dapper-server - how do I set/keep the boot messages in 25x80 ?
[11:27] <ubuntu> soundray, when I installed ubuntu it did recognize the win partition, but I suppose the barrier is still the bios/lba thing. My win partition is 98gb, then a 512mb swap, and then the remaining partition is Ubuntu
[11:27] <benanne> thanks for the tip
[11:28] <benanne> gonna give it a try now :) thanks
[11:28] <cfk> I think the 'splash screen' ends up flipping it back to 25x40
[11:28] <cfk> is there some way to disable the cute ubuntu boot image ?
[11:29] <yoyo> you can try smeg to edit the menu
[11:29] <soundray> ubuntu, I hear you. (Not actually, but you know what I mean :) Advice is the same.
[11:29] <xualo> please
[11:29] <yanimax> apache2 tries to download .pl files instead of executing them, anyone knows what's wrong in my config ?
[11:29] <rewt_> tritium, im using a 64 bit amd
[11:30] <Seveas> yanimax, +ExecCgi is probaby missing in your dir (or mod_perl, whatever you use)
[11:30] <ubuntu> soundray, thanks for the advice -- I appreciate it!
[11:30] <worthawholebean> yanimax: maybe forctype would help... but i hace no idea
[11:30] <benanne> I suppose what I'm trying should be possible seeing as vmware's "browser appliance" is ubuntu-based and takes only 250 or so megs
[11:30] <tritium> rewt_: oh, that's likely the problem.  32-bit chroots on 64-bit installs are often used for things like jva
[11:30] <soundray> xualo, have you rebooted or restarted X since the install?
[11:30] <tritium> java even
[11:30] <rewt_> tritium, so what do i do?
[11:30] <xualo> what if i do ctrl+alt+backspace it will do the job?
[11:31] <soundray> xualo, it may do.
[11:31] <cafuego> rewt_: For the moment, if I were you, I'd go back to running Ubuntu 32bit.
[11:31] <Angel_Dex> Ok so i added ram and switched CPUs i boot up and it said 34 boots no disk check forcing one now it runs thru and gets stuck on kernal panic: fatal exception in interupt WTF is wrong?
[11:31] <Angel_Dex> plzz this is agervating me
[11:31] <xualo> ok
[11:31] <tritium> rewt_: I'm not sure about the state of java on 64-bit amd presently
[11:31] <xualo> cheers man
 libapache2-mod-perl2 is installed
[11:31] <alpha_> i'm getting a "no devices detected" in xorg...
[11:31] <rewt_> grrr
[11:31] <Seveas> yanimax, and loaded?
[11:31] <tritium> rewt_: perhaps setup a 32-bit chroot
[11:31] <Seveas> and configured?
 i have restarted apache2...
[11:31] <cafuego> tritium: There's a 1.4.2 blackdown apckage; a 1.5.0 sun package, but no actual working browser plugin.
[11:31] <soundray> cafuego, is that because of the intricacies of setting up 32bit chroot?
[11:32] <Seveas> yanimax, a2enmod perl2
[11:32] <rewt_> i dunno how
[11:32] <tritium> cafuego: ah, thanks for the info!
[11:32] <yoyo> I looked at the bug buddy tool
[11:32] <yanimax> Seveas: sorry?
[11:32] <cafuego> soundray: No, it's easy enough to set up. Having to maintain 2 parallel installs ends up being a PITA though.
[11:32] <Seveas> yanimax, that's the command to actually enable the module 
[11:32] <AX-1> how can i change my refresh rate + resolution from command line?
[11:32] <cafuego> soundray: And for normal desktop use, 32bit is actually faster.
[11:32] <Seveas> AX-1, sudo nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf and restart X
[11:33] <AX-1> ok i will try
 it says "This module does not exist!" in bash
[11:33] <yoyo> it has something to do with libthread_db.so.1
[11:33] <soundray> cafuego, is there an explanation for that? (32bit=faster)
[11:33] <cafuego> Anyone know if Breezy supports nForce4 mobos with sata2 yet?
 perhaps i should restart my computer...
[11:33] <cafuego> soundray: the compiler for 32bit is FAR more mature
 I'll try and tell you...
[11:33] <Seveas> yanimax, no, sudo a2enmod perl; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[11:34] <ebdain> cafuego - I'm testing that now.... LiveCD is weird, but I can at least see my drives.
[11:34] <soundray> cafuego, okay, thanks. SATA2 requires a 2.6.15 kernel I believe.
[11:34] <cafuego> soundray: For other stuff, like heavy i/o etc (server?) running 64bit would be better.
[11:34] <superbob> Hi, just installed ubuntu and alot of howtos im reading refer to module-assistant
[11:34] <moodog> evening all.
[11:34] <superbob> But module-assistant isnt in apt
[11:34] <cafuego> ebdai/soundray: ok.
[11:34] <superbob> For example an ati howto @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[11:34] <Seveas> !info module-assistant
[11:34] <ubotu> module-assistant: (tool to make module package creation easier), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.9.5ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 69 kB, Installed size: 364 kB
[11:34] <nitroXL> does anyone know if exists a volatile repositorie for ubuntu ?
[11:34] <Seveas> ^-- superbob
 it says "This module is already enabled!"
[11:35] <tritium> superbob!tell superbob about repositories
[11:35] <yoyo> libpthread.so.0... heck this is complicated to follow
[11:35] <tritium> heh ;)
[11:35] <cafuego> tritium: Your ctrl-u is broken ;-)
[11:35] <ebdain> LiveCD fun:  Cannot get it to finish booting.  It will go through and detect everything, check the CD, get DHCP, flip to FB booting (modules and whatnot), load X, play the Ubuntu startup sound.  After that, the keyboard freezes (no lights work, etc.) but the mouse is working (so not hard-locked).  Testing further, if I smash crtl-alt-F1, I can get a prompt, and then Ctrl-Alt-F7 gives me a functional Gnome desktop.  Any thoughts on why
[11:35] <ebdain> this would be required?
[11:35] <Seveas> yanimax, hmm, then restarting apache2 should have done it, you might want to take a look at the config
 bur it still doesn't work after restarting apache2
[11:35] <soundray> cafuego, I have a memory intensive app where amd64 wins by a wide margin (ca. 8 times faster)
[11:35] <tritium> cafuego: oops :)
[11:35] <cafuego> soundray: That would come under heavy i/o ;-)
[11:36] <soundray> cafuego, and heavy floating point arithmetic, too.
[11:36] <superbob> But why cant i apt-get install module-assistant ?
[11:36] <Seveas> superbob, enable universe
[11:36] <cafuego> float in -> float out
[11:36] <heliotrope> is there any type of program for ubuntu i can use like a planner, for writing all my homework assignments etc, and will be like a calander and stuff?
[11:36] <cafuego> i/o
[11:36] <Seveas> !tell superbob about universe
[11:36] <superbob> Ah just sources.list ?
[11:36] <superbob> k
[11:36] <superbob> |:
[11:36] <soundray> heliotrope, evolution
[11:37] <heliotrope> soundray, oh, evolution can do all of that?
[11:37] <rewt_> how do i uninstall java
[11:37] <rewt_> ??
[11:37] <Seveas> cafuego, "mob shopping" 
[11:37] <soundray> heliotrope, yes.
[11:37] <heliotrope> soundray, very cool :)
[11:37] <heliotrope> soundray, thanks
[11:37] <Seveas> rewt_, how did you install it?
[11:37] <cafuego> Seveas: Why the odd kanji smiley?
[11:37] <Seveas> cafuego, because it's fun 
[11:37] <Cryptid> How Can i add a Keyboard hotkey to start a perticular program example: Xirc ???????
[11:37] <yanimax> Seveas: i don't understand what's wrong...
[11:37] <rewt_> i did  sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[11:37] <yoyo> hey... i have something about uim_quit
[11:37] <cafuego> rewt_: sudo apt-get remove j2re1.4
[11:37] <yoyo> in the bug....
[11:37] <rewt_> its not working on my 64bit
[11:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell Cryptid about shortcut
[11:37] <yanimax> Seveas: i'll try restarting the system...
[11:37] <Seveas> Cryptid, look in gconf-editor in /apps/metacity/keybindings
[11:38] <yoyo> I installed it for writing japanese
[11:38] <yoyo> I read it was better than scim, at least for ubuntu
[11:38] <yoyo> there is something in the backtrace like
[11:38] <ebdain> spoke too soon.... Ctrl-Alt-F7 takes me to a NON-functional Gnome desktop.
[11:38] <cafuego> Seveas: 
[11:38] <soundray> Cryptid, apart from listening to ubotu, have a look at xbindkeys
[11:38] <Seveas> yoyo, half the CJK world says scim is better, the other half prefers uim
[11:38] <rewt_> anyone know how to get a java that run s in 64 bit
[11:38] <Seveas> cafuego, ?
[11:38] <Cryptid> K
[11:39] <yoyo> <signal handler called> uim_quit() from /us/lib/libuim.so.0
[11:39] <tritium> rewt_: you'll not have much luck down that path, I'm afraid
[11:39] <yoyo> seveas, yes... but somewhere I read scim for ubuntu made some
[11:39] <yoyo> applications crash
[11:39] <rewt_> grrr
[11:39] <soundray> Cryptid, oops, xbindkeys information is in ubotu's links, too.
[11:39] <yoyo> that's why I installed UIM
[11:39] <cfk> is there a way to pause between each step of the boot process?   trying to figure out what is flipping my video mode
[11:39] <yoyo> but now it appears it's making crashes on gnome-cups
[11:40] <Seveas> yoyo, same goes for uim 
[11:40] <rosangela> hi there.  when I put a audio cd it plays just noise. But if I ask to play via xmms it plays normal. Whats wrong?
[11:40] <yoyo> so I can't install a printer
[11:40] <Cryptid> soundray, yes and i am going thru it
[11:40] <zugot> is there a way i can have different network profiles?  i want one wired for when i'm in the office, one wireless for when i'm at home, and another wireless for tmobile hotspots
[11:40] <yoyo> but it used to work fine some days ago
[11:40] <yoyo> there were no crashes at all
[11:40] <yoyo> but in bug buddy, I see some lines with uim_quit
[11:41] <yoyo> is it really connected?
[11:41] <yoyo> seveas, what do you use?
[11:41] <soundray> rosangela, this could be due to some copy protection on the CD.
[11:41] <Seveas> yoyo, neither
[11:41] <rosangela> no its not. This cd is pirate
[11:41] <yoyo> what do I do?
[11:41] <[blah] > is samba installed by default?
[11:42] <soundray> !samba
[11:42] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:42] <soundray> !info samba
[11:42] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB
[11:42] <worthawholebean> Hello! I just downloaded a whole beunch of TV eps and burned them to DVD (the AVIs, not encoded), but now they won't play. Only the first ep will play - for the others, mplayer stops on the cache fill.
[11:42] <[blah] > thanx
[11:42] <rewt_> Seveas, do you kow much about getting java running fine in mozilla on a 64 bit?
[11:42] <rosangela> soundray, the cdrom is not protected
[11:42] <yoyo> there's more than only uim
[11:42] <yoyo> there's a libpthread.so.0
[11:42] <cafuego> Ugh, the curse of the incompetent pirate
[11:43] <yoyo> libgnomeui-2.so.0
[11:43] <cafuego> worthawholebean: You know we can't assist you in breaking laws, right?
[11:43] <foampeace> hello
[11:43] <Seveas> rewt_, no
[11:43] <tritium> worthawholebean: walk the plank, scurvy dog ;)
[11:43] <foampeace> i got the free 5 ubuntu cds(actually 10 w/livecds) in the mail
[11:44] <dnlds> hi
[11:44] <syllogism> does anyone have time to help me with my ipw2200 problem?
[11:44] <jenda> cafuego: he OWNs the shows, of course
[11:44] <foampeace> seeeeet
[11:44] <syllogism> I'd greatly appreciate it
[11:44] <foampeace> sweeeet
[11:44] <tritium> jenda: sure he does...
[11:44] <jenda> :)
[11:44] <superbob> I feel dirty using ubuntu
[11:44] <dnlds> i'm trying to install anjuta and i get this error..
[11:44] <soundray> tritium, cafuego: there's nothing in worthawholebean's post that indicates illegal activity.
[11:44] <superbob> Its.. too easy
[11:44] <cafuego> superbob: Have a shower
[11:45] <superbob> :p
[11:45] <foampeace> superbob: if its too easy make it hard
[11:45] <superbob> foampeace I did, i broke something just now actually
[11:45] <cafuego> soundray: "downloaded a whole beunch of TV eps" pretty much implies it
[11:45] <superbob> Just as i typed that
[11:45] <Bung1> hey all, i have an external usb harddrive, and it says its "read only" ive just tried $ sudo chmod a+rx <device> .. but it still says read-only? ive forgotten if its NTFS O.o
[11:45] <superbob> :)
[11:45] <yoyo> superbob, then do you have an advice with gnome-cups crash?
[11:45] <foampeace> superbob: thats what this open ended thing is all about isnt it? hehe
[11:45] <soundray> cafuego, not necessarily. Or do you know for sure which legislation he fell under?
[11:46] <superbob> I followed the ati proprietary driver guide on ubuntu forums
[11:46] <yoyo> without printing, there's no use
[11:46] <cafuego> soundray: I know there are legal tv ep downlaods, but they aren't normally in AVI format.
[11:46] <superbob> And now im left with an unuseable desktop
[11:46] <foampeace> superbob: but it has to have an easy part so you can ease right into it
[11:46] <superbob> ;)
[11:46] <{jasper}> hello guys, anyone here who can help me setup my serial port? I can't get it to work
[11:46] <superbob> I cant even ctrl + alt + backspace out of the GDM (sp?) thing..
[11:46] <tritium> soundray: please don't encourage it
[11:46] <superbob> To try and fix it
[11:46] <foampeace> superbob: unuseable desktop, way to go ;)
[11:47] <superbob> horizontal banding all over my screen
[11:47] <foampeace> now you get to fix it
[11:47] <superbob> Rotfl
[11:47] <soundray> cafuego, in any case, I'm in favor of assuming innocence.
[11:47] <foampeace> i wish mine was messed up
[11:47] <superbob> omg i cant get to a console.
[11:47] <Protex> Hey guys.
[11:47] <naldon> i'm trying to install anjuta i get the following error.......
[11:47] <cafuego> soundray: yeah, so am I, but not in a 95%/5% situation.
[11:47] <superbob> what is this satanic login screen made of.
[11:47] <Seveas> soundray, "downloaded a bunch of tv episodes" kinda gives it away...
[11:47] <Bung1> is there a command to check if its NTFS?
[11:47] <naldon> error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[11:47] <naldon> help please
[11:48] <Seveas> !tell naldon about compiling
[11:48] <tritium> superbob: what on earth are you talking about?
[11:48] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, you there pal?
[11:48] <soundray> Seveas, not in Germany, for example.
[11:48] <Unity> i have my desktop res at 2048x1536 and all the letters take up too many pixels
[11:48] <superbob> tritium, i followed the guide for the proprietary ati driver from the ubuntu forums
[11:48] <Unity> how can i make the letters take up as many pixels as the would on 1024x768
[11:48] <superbob> tritium, on reboot the display is broken
[11:48] <Seveas> superbob, wiki has a better guide...
[11:48] <yoyo> mmmm.... anjuta, did you have the variable defined?
[11:48] <foampeace> superbob: they stuff it with hay
[11:48] <Unity> do i have to change my dpi settings or something?
[11:49] <OmegaAlpha> i just fixed my ati driver.. but dont know exactly what i did to fix it for the 3d accel.
[11:49] <tritium> Unity: don't use greedy letters.
[11:49] <naldon> that page didn't help
[11:49] <nagyatius> someone from hungary_
[11:49] <Unity> tritium: how would i turn off greedy letters? it works okay in gnome but the letters are really big in kde and in the welcome screen
[11:50] <foampeace> im impressed i got my 10 free ubuntu cds in the mail...some integrity there
[11:50] <cafuego> nagyatius: Most hungarians are.
[11:50] <naldon> how do i set PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[11:50] <tritium> Unity: not sure what's going on there
[11:50] <pepsi> xfce is spiffy :D
[11:51] <nagyatius> show me one,need help with configuring internet conection
[11:51] <cafuego> naldon: You don't.
[11:51] <naldon> cafuego, how do i go about fixing my problem?
[11:51] <Unity> this clearly isn't size 8 font...this is like size 20
[11:51] <superbob> If my screen is condensed to about 50% of the monitor, and there are huge amounts of "wiggling" what is the likely cause ?
[11:51] <superbob> Incorrect refresh rates?
[11:52] <cristian> ciao
[11:52] <[blah] > are there hotkeys for switching between desktops?   (eg alt-f1, f2 etc)
[11:52] <rewt_> [blah] , no
[11:52] <tritium> [blah] : Ctrl-Alt-arrows
[11:52] <rewt_> you can set some up though
[11:53] <_jason> [blah] : you can set them in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[11:53] <[blah] > is there anyway to use the windows key?
[11:53] <cristian> hi i'm a new users about ubuntu
[11:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell [blah]  about winkey
[11:53] <rewt_> blah set it up in sys> pref> hotkeys
[11:53] <yoyo> welll....
[11:53] <tritium> [blah] : did you verify that ctrl-alt-arrows work?
[11:53] <yoyo> no help there?
[11:53] <Effi> does anyone of you has installed xmms-skins?
[11:53] <yoyo> ani hints?
[11:53] <yoyo> whatever....
[11:53] <[blah] > titium yes thank you
[11:54] <ltibor65> soundray, I burned the boot cd, but Ubuntu boots not from it. Only Win Xp and an other Linux. Why?
[11:54] <_jason> [blah] : ignore ubotu unless you want the inkey as a modifier like ALT
[11:54] <ablomen> Effi: yes i have
[11:54] <whatthedeuce> ltibor65 you need to change your bios settings to boot from CD
[11:54] <[blah] > thanx for that _jason .  I do want that
[11:55] <cf> Hi, is there an eta for Flight 4 of Dapper ?
[11:55] <Effi> ablomen, I have the following problem. I installed them with synaptic but when I start xmms and want to change the skin it says, that there are no skins installed. Can you give me an advice, what I could have maked wrong?
[11:55] <mick> hey up all!
[11:56] <soundray> ltibor65, does it actually boot off the CD?
[11:56] <ablomen> Effi: ok first make shure the skins folder (in the xmms skin browser) is set to /usr/share/xmms/Skins
[11:56] <soundray> ltibor65, and what kind of boot code was on the floppy?
[11:56] <ltibor65> whathedeuce, the problem is not the bios setting, it boots from cd, but in Grub only WIN XP and UHU LInux, and Ubuntu not.
[11:56] <OmegaAlpha> how do you run WINE after you install it?
[11:57] <Protocol1> yey 2 1/2 more months till dapper is official
[11:57] <whatthedeuce> ltibor65, did you mess with the grub settings - that always gives me problems, i never seem to get it right...
[11:57] <benanne> hmm... 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox' on the server install tells me the package can't be found :( anybody have any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[11:58] <Effi> ablomen, alright, it works, thank you very much
[11:58] <soundray> ltibor65, when you boot the floppy, can you start Ubuntu from it?
[11:58] <ltibor65> soundray, the CD boots, but not Ubuntu, only WIN Xp and Uhu Linux.
[11:58] <ablomen> Effi: any time
[11:58] <Effi> do you accidentally also use sylpheed-claws?
[11:58] <OmegaAlpha> how do you run WINE aftering installing it?
[11:58] <ltibor65> soundray, yes from floppy boots Ubuntu too.
[11:59] <OmegaAlpha> i typed wine in terminal but i need to type more than that i think
[11:59] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, wine somewindowsprogram.exe
[11:59] <OmegaAlpha> ohh
[11:59] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, thanks
[11:59] <donofrio_> how do I setup a box to be an active directory replica
[11:59] <yoyo> what does wine do?
[11:59] <Protocol1> does anyone know if I will be able to upgrade to dapper from ubuntu 5.10 without the cd's?
[11:59] <OmegaAlpha> yoyo,  windows emulator