[12:16] <Burgwork> ogra, http://littlewizard.sourceforge.net/ <- have you heard of this? (seems to c or c++ gtk)
[12:16] <ogra> Burgwork, sweet
[12:17] <Burgwork> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/02/msg00578.html
[12:17] <Burgwork> already itp'ed
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[12:56] <paolob_> Hi guys. I have ubuntu installed. What packages I must install to have edubuntu? thank you1
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[12:57] <ogra> paolob_, do you want the edubuntu classrom server or only a edubuntu desktop ?
[12:57] <paolob_> desktop
[12:57] <ogra> then install edubuntu-desktop :)
[12:57] <paolob_> ogra, thank you
[12:58] <paolob_> ogra, what about the content filtering, will it be ready for dapper?
[12:58] <ogra> nope
[12:59] <paolob_> ogra, I can't install edubuntu-desktop, it installs too many packages. What are the edubuntu specific ones?
[12:59] <paolob_> ogra (content filtering) :-( is there any problem?
[01:01] <ogra> yes, for the existing implementations you have to provide regulary updated of black and whitelists ...
[01:01] <ogra> and you have to tweak the packages ...
[01:01] <ogra> since thats no option i looked into different solutions ... 
[01:02] <paolob_> will be there a solution with dapper?
[01:02] <ogra> i plan to include the willow conten filter for dapper+1 it works like a spam filter and teaches itself which content is evil
[01:03] <ogra> in dapper there is the one that was in hoary, breezy and warty already ... squidguard and squid ... 
[01:03] <paolob_> ogra, but in the meanwhile what can I do in order to have content filtering? squidguard?
[01:03] <ogra> but it has a high maintenance level ... which williw avoids ...
[01:03] <ogra> *willow
[01:04] <ogra> http://www.digitallumber.com/software/willow/
[01:04] <paolob_> ok, now, what package install me the ltsp server in order to get a edubuntu from ubuntu?
[01:04] <ogra> see the ThinClientHowto on the ubuntu wiki
[01:04] <Burgwork> http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~spacey/?p=129 <-- talks about willow and edubuntu
[01:05] <ogra> Burgwork, yes, he's a everyday guest in this channel, you met him at UBZ
[01:06] <ogra> Burgwork, actually he's here :)
[01:06] <Burgwork> hmm, don't remember him (too many new people)
[01:06] <ogra> short curly hair ... hung around with Treenaks ...
[01:06] <Burgwork> ok, rings bells
[01:07] <ogra> from nl
[01:08] <ogra> i'm really sad i didnt have the time for willow this release ...
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[01:08] <ogra> its the coolest content filter i've seen so far
[01:08] <Burgwork> does it do any whitelist/blacklist?
[01:09] <Burgwork> one very cool feature is a whitelist, for a fixed function machine
[01:09] <Burgwork> ie, you can only go to one website
[01:09] <ogra> it does white/blacklist if you want to use it ... but the coolest feature is bayesian filtering ...
[01:10] <Burgwork> yes
[01:10] <ogra> it even does pam based user access control if you want 
[01:11] <paolob_> ogra, excuse me, I can't find the information about the ltsp server edubuntu packets to install...
[01:12] <ogra> its the ThinClientHowto
[01:12] <ogra> on the wiki
[01:13] <ogra> wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[01:13] <paolob_> ogra, ok
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[01:51] <paolob_> ogra, I'm doing what wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto says, but I see that I haven't the i385 dir in /opt/ltsp/  What am I missing?
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[03:07] <ogra> phew 
[03:15] <signifer123> bah...
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[07:24] <lucasvo> ogra: ping
[07:28] <TOZTWO> Will edubuntu use GNOME 2.14?
[07:30] <lucasvo> TOZTWO: it uses whatever ubuntu uses
[07:31] <lucasvo> atm on dapper I have 2.14
[07:31] <lucasvo> eh I mean 2.13
[07:53] <TOZTWO> 2.14 will be released in late March.
[07:53] <TOZTWO> I was wondering if it was planned for inclusion.
[07:54] <TOZTWO> It has some "Groups" settings.
[07:55] <TOZTWO> You can lock down the UI for inexperienced users, and allow hackers full freedoms and abilities.
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[02:18] <mhz> re
[02:18] <mhz> hi all
[02:20] <Yagisan> G'day mhz
[02:21] <mhz> Yagisan: my man!!
[02:21] <mhz> Yagisan: how are you doing?
[02:22] <Yagisan> mhz: not good. 2 customers this week have refused to pay. It seems to be a planned thing, as they know each other. 1 even disconnected their phone.
[02:23] <Yagisan> mhz: put me out of pocket $200 AUD
[02:23] <mhz> damn!
[02:23] <Yagisan> mhz: and it's my daughter Kate's birthday on monday
[02:25] <mhz> Yagisan: it seems you are not having a good 2006 start
[02:25] <Yagisan> mhz: nope. quite shit actually
[02:25] <Yagisan> mhz: and yourself ?
[02:26] <mhz> same
[02:26] <mhz> :(
[02:26] <mhz> at least you are not the only one
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[02:26] <mhz> hehehe
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[02:26] <mhz> or coffee
[02:27] <mhz> Yagisan: maybe the good thing, so far, is that I got a sponsor who will provide the infrastructure I need to make a nice event to promote IT and Education integration
[02:27] <Yagisan> excellent, with that glass of milk coating my stomach, I can consume vast quantities of alcohol tonight ;)
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[02:28] <Yagisan> mhz: tha's good new
[02:28] <Yagisan> s/tha's/that's
[02:32] <Yagisan> mhz: saw something amusing on the forums. It was a thread about my private repo
[02:32] <mhz> ohh? the game one?
[02:32] <Yagisan> mhz: yep - that one
[02:34] <Yagisan> mhz: someone wanted to know if it was trustworthy and should they use it.
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[02:34] <mhz> Yagisan: is it trustworthy ?
[02:34] <Yagisan> mhz: there are some more cool games in revu
[02:35] <mhz> revu?
[02:37] <Yagisan> mhz: revu - proposed new packages for ubuntu
[02:37] <Yagisan> mhz: trustworthy - they wanted to know if it had viruses etc, would it break their ubuntu
[02:38] <Yagisan> mhz: revu - http://revu.tauware.de/
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[02:56] <Yagisan> wow - I just crashed ubuntu
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> nice effort
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[02:57] <kenroy_> hello
[02:58] <kenroy_> what does edubuntu offers that the other ubuntus don't
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> a totaly dead channel :0
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[03:13] <mhz> kenroy_: basically,.. edubuntu = LTSP + edu applications + themes and background aimed for schools
[03:13] <mhz> Kamping_Kaiser: and maybe you are trying this channel on hours that most of us are either sleeping or eating or in family time :D
[03:14] <kenroy_> nice
[03:14] <kenroy_> get the kids involved in linux
[03:14] <mhz> Kamping_Kaiser: i am sure that during 12 UTC and 22 UTC this is more crowded
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> mhz: quite probably :)
[03:14] <mhz> kenroy_: yup
[03:14] <mhz> Kamping_Kaiser: on working days, not weekends :D
[03:15] <mhz> Kamping_Kaiser: as you can see, I am about having breffast now
[03:15] <mhz> :D
[03:15] <kenroy_> you guys tool the number one spot for bet internet browser from microsoft and now talking away the #1 position for school desktop from them
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[03:15] <mhz_food> kenroy_: hehehe, well it was not planned
[03:15] <mhz_food> but cool!
[03:15] <jsgotangco> hrmmm
[03:16] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: hey mon
[03:16] <jsgotangco> mhz_food, what's up man?
[03:16] <mhz_food> about to have breakfast
[03:16] <jsgotangco> i already did my screenshots :P
[03:16] <mhz_food> ohh
[03:16] <jsgotangco> breakfast? and we're about to sleep here!
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> mhz_food: <grin>
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[03:17] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: hehehe, IC magic
[03:17] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: hehehe, IRC magic
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> jsgotangco: i was gong to catch you about EdU doc as well.
[03:17] <mhz_food> Yagisan: maybe it was meant to be
[03:17] <mhz_food> :)
[03:17] <kenroy_> but its good
[03:17] <jsgotangco> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah, its me and mhz_food planning for it
[03:17] <kenroy_> i never enjoyed linux until now
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok :)
[03:18] <mhz_food> kenroy_: I never enjoyed linux until I quit Apple machines
[03:18] <kenroy_> ok
[03:18] <kenroy_> well i never used a mac
[03:18] <mhz_food> okis guys... wife complaining .. breakfast time!
[03:19] <mhz_food> see ya in a couple of hours or less
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[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> see you tomorrow mhz_food
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