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| Hobbsee | morning all | 12:39 |
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| atie | hi | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | hi atie | 02:17 |
| atie | Hobbsee, hi | 02:20 |
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| atie | freeflying-ibook, hi | 02:26 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: hi | 02:34 |
| atie | freeflying-ibook, have you seen the mail from iwj (Ian)? | 02:42 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: what the topic ? | 02:46 |
| atie | freeflying-ibook, fontconfig... waiting for you and HuaHua. | 02:50 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: I'm reading it now | 02:50 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: Ian means that set up conf in conf.d for each language ? | 02:55 |
| atie | freeflying-ibook, he just understood why we need XML configration hacks | 02:57 |
| atie | and maybe per ttf-font package will be answer | 02:58 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: but this way may not be acceptted. | 02:59 |
| atie | first of we need to see all XML configurations for each ttf-font package if it needs to improve. | 02:59 |
| atie | s/first of/first of all | 03:00 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: y, and we chinese are working on it now . | 03:00 |
| atie | freeflying-ibook, I thought so. | 03:01 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: the conf must not affect other languages | 03:01 |
| atie | freeflying-ibook, yes. | 03:02 |
| atie | freeflying-ibook, have sometime to put your stuff to wiki, then talk together. | 03:02 |
| atie | nowadays I am at #ubuntu-ko | 03:03 |
| freeflying-ibook | atie: ok | 03:03 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: ping | 07:22 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: ping | 08:24 |
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| Tm_T | ok, xgl doesn't really work here yet | 11:23 |
| sealne | hmm https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kile/+bug/443/ won't let me select upstream fix request as it claims there isn't a source package for kile? | 11:30 |
| sealne | is that due to it being universe? | 11:31 |
| Tm_T | ugh, when flight 4 is out | 11:39 |
| Tm_T | ? | 11:39 |
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| mornfall | http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/installer-search.png :-) | 12:56 |
| mornfall | \o/ | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: very nice!!! | 12:57 |
| sealne | shiny :) | 12:58 |
| Hobbsee | sealne: i took your sources, and made a debdiff with your fix - did you end up seeing the bug report for it? | 12:58 |
| sealne | yep and i now know how to make the debdiff i wasn't sure at the time, thanks | 01:02 |
| sealne | the man page for debdiff wasn't quite clear enough for me :) | 01:02 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:03 |
| sealne | still not sure what you can do with the debdiff tho | 01:06 |
| Hobbsee | it's easier to put into the package, i think | 01:06 |
| sealne | any idea if you can only select upstream fix request for packages in main? | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | not sure, i''m assuming you can set it anywhere | 01:07 |
| sealne | i was trying for kile | 01:08 |
| sealne | but it wouldn't find the source package | 01:08 |
| sealne | Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kile/+bug/443/ | 01:09 |
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| Hobbsee | weird, no idea | 01:11 |
| sealne | in launchpad any idea what "Keys pending validation" means when i tried to set my gpg key? | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | er...you've uploaded it to the keyserver, i assume? | 01:12 |
| sealne | yeah | 01:12 |
| jpatrick | sealne: check your mail | 01:12 |
| === Hobbsee hates all this keys business | ||
| sealne | jpatrick: ah :) | 01:12 |
| sealne | pity i can't read it at home as kmail dosen't seem to like some gpg stuff which is weird | 01:13 |
| sealne | yet it works fine at work and i have as far as i can tell the same related packages installed | 01:14 |
| sealne | some signed email displays fine but other stuff i just get a wee padlock in the message body | 01:15 |
| sealne | home is breezy, work is now dapper but when it was breezy it worked fine there | 01:16 |
| === jpatrick tries to get a new krusader into dapper | ||
| === Hobbsee thought she saw a bug on that sealne | ||
| sealne | hmm | 01:17 |
| sealne | its not https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/31212 | 01:20 |
| jpatrick | wasn't that fixed ages ago | 01:22 |
| === jpatrick had that problem | ||
| Hobbsee | check it... | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | you can mark it fixed if it is fixed | 01:23 |
| sealne | i've always had it in kubuntu since i started using it pre breezy release | 01:23 |
| sealne | sid worked so much better on my home machine :P | 01:25 |
| jpatrick | looks like my message was 'scrubbed': https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000456.html | 01:30 |
| mornfall | listening to Stargazers on Oceanborn by Nightwish (2:17/4:28) | 01:31 |
| === jpatrick listening to New Born by Muse | ||
| === Hobbsee is not listening to anything, as it would wake the parents | ||
| jpatrick | headphones... | 01:33 |
| mornfall | good i don't live with parents | 01:33 |
| sealne | volume control? :) | 01:33 |
| === jpatrick does | ||
| Hobbsee | good point | 01:33 |
| === Hobbsee does as well | ||
| Hobbsee | might have some headphones somewhere | 01:33 |
| jpatrick | sealne: I think we can mark as fiixed | 01:34 |
| === jpatrick out to lunch :9 | ||
| sealne | jpatrick: which? | 01:42 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: *poke* -- do we want to default to "Any Suite" or "KDE" in adept installer? | 01:46 |
| mornfall | Riddell: also, the KDE .desktop files in app-install-data are exceptionally poor (the rest is merely "poor") | 01:51 |
| mornfall | i thought i'd improve since breezy, but there are no hints of that | 01:52 |
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| mornfall | ok, i take that back -- they are better | 01:59 |
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| incinerator | any new on when flight 4 will be released? | 02:00 |
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| mornfall | incinerator: i hope not before sunday -- otherwise it'll go out without adept 1.90 :p | 02:02 |
| incinerator | thx, I'm fed up with flight 3, going back to breezy on my laptop just now | 02:02 |
| incinerator | the kernel in df3 is t3h s|_|ck | 02:02 |
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| mornfall | (sunday = tomorrow) | 02:05 |
| incinerator | got that.... | 02:05 |
| mornfall | what's the schedule? | 02:05 |
| incinerator | ??? | 02:06 |
| incinerator | schedule on the wiki doesn't say anything about the flight releases :-( | 02:06 |
| jpatrick | sealne: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/31212 | 02:06 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: how would i go about asking removal of kfmclient*desktop from app-install-data? | 02:10 |
| mornfall | Riddell: and adding about 5 dozen icons? :) | 02:10 |
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| sealne | hunger: is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/31212 still affecting you? | 03:29 |
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| Tm_T | hm | 03:49 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tm_T: hi | 03:50 |
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| Tm_T | freeflying-ibook: hullo | 04:14 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tm_T: need kopete-0.12'deb for ppc :) | 04:15 |
| Tm_T | you mean I should build? | 04:16 |
| freeflying-ibook | Tm_T: if you can give source package , I can build it for you | 04:16 |
| Tm_T | sounds good | 04:17 |
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| freeflying-ibook | Tm_T: nice | 04:18 |
| Tm_T | andred: right? | 04:19 |
| Tm_T | andred: oh, you're here already | 04:19 |
| jpatrick | hmmm | 04:20 |
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| Tm_T | freeflying-ibook: sort it out with andred, I think that's the best way to do | 04:38 |
| andred | Tm_T: sure, just gimme the link and i'll try to add it to the repository | 04:39 |
| andred | erm, freeflying-ibook: sure, just gimme the link and i'll try to add it to the repository | 04:39 |
| andred | have to figure out how to add different archs first though | 04:39 |
| freeflying-ibook | andred: which link ? | 04:39 |
| andred | the link to the package | 04:40 |
| Tm_T | andred: also give sources (and debian dir) to him so he can _build_ package first ;) | 04:40 |
| Tm_T | I bet your sources are less forked | 04:40 |
| andred | ah, ok. first things first :) | 04:40 |
| Tm_T | yu | 04:40 |
| Tm_T | now coffee and curling in tv, good luck with it ;) -> | 04:40 |
| andred | freeflying-ibook: what do you need from me now? | 04:41 |
| andred | only sources or anything else too | 04:41 |
| freeflying-ibook | andred: source and debian dir | 04:41 |
| andred | ok, one second, have to boot the pc | 04:42 |
| andred | freeflying-ibook: should i send it via email? | 04:46 |
| freeflying-ibook | andred: sure , zhengpeng.hou AT gmail DOT com | 04:47 |
| freeflying-ibook | who need backtrace of adept_notifier yestoday ? | 04:51 |
| andred | freeflying-ibook: can i somehow clean the debian-dir? | 04:51 |
| freeflying-ibook | andred: if you'd like | 04:53 |
| andred | i mean is there a debwhatever that cleans it for me? | 04:53 |
| jpatrick | fakeroot debian/rules clean ? | 04:54 |
| andred | cool thanks | 04:55 |
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| andred | freeflying-ibook: email's out | 05:06 |
| freeflying-ibook | andred: got it | 05:07 |
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| freeflying-ibook | Tm_T , andred: how shall I give the binary package to you ? | 05:22 |
| andred | my email is andre@duffeck.de | 05:28 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: wibble | 05:29 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: i am about the only person who cares about adept* stacktraces | 05:29 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: hi | 05:29 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: got that kopete link again ? :) | 05:30 |
| andred | ubijtsa2: wait a second, i'm just setting up a new repository | 05:31 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: okidoki.. | 05:31 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: you have one? | 05:31 |
| ubijtsa2 | I have just tried dist-upgrade on a Thinkpad X31 running Breezy.. | 05:31 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: just a moment | 05:31 |
| ubijtsa2 | reinstall seems such an attractive option now.. | 05:32 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8818 | 05:32 |
| jpatrick | ubijtsa2: oh dear :( | 05:32 |
| ubijtsa2 | jpatrick: this time, the dist-upgrade worked (with a bit of coaxing) | 05:32 |
| ubijtsa2 | but in all, it was "the operation mas a success - the patient died" | 05:33 |
| ubijtsa2 | s/mas/was/ | 05:33 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: that's not a hanging program is it? | 05:34 |
| andred | ubijtsa2: deb http://andre.duffeck.de/kopete breezy main | 05:34 |
| mornfall | looks like a perfectly finely running one | 05:34 |
| ubijtsa2 | udev was less than cooperative after the reboot.. /usr/lib/iftab_helper being the main culprit | 05:34 |
| mornfall | aha | 05:34 |
| mornfall | okey, it's possibly corrupt | 05:35 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: thank you | 05:35 |
| andred | ubijtsa2: np | 05:35 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: I can sub breezy with dapper - yeah ? | 05:35 |
| andred | yes :) i thought it was breezy | 05:35 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: but it can hardly use | 05:36 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: I have 50% of my boxes on dapper now. the last one to be upgraded is my main one here at home. | 05:37 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: not sure what you mean? | 05:37 |
| andred | ubijtsa2: ah, i see | 05:37 |
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| andred | ubijtsa2: is there a problem downloading the package? | 05:39 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: it will freeze ,or hang on | 05:39 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: I think so | 05:40 |
| andred | ubijtsa2: one second | 05:40 |
| ubijtsa2 | :) | 05:40 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: as I've told you yestoday | 05:40 |
| mornfall | freeflying-ibook: you told me it hangs -- i assumed it freezes hard | 05:41 |
| freeflying-ibook | mornfall: the only thing I can do is to kill it | 05:41 |
| andred | ubijtsa2: pleasy try again (apt-get update first) | 05:42 |
| ubijtsa2 | ok | 05:42 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: working fine now :) | 05:44 |
| andred | alright :) | 05:44 |
| ubijtsa2 | andred: as far as I can tell, your package works fine | 05:49 |
| andred | ubijtsa2: the dapper package was made by Tm_T, but thanks anyway :) | 05:49 |
| ubijtsa2 | ok, thanks to your both for the package :) | 05:49 |
| Tm_T | ugh | 05:52 |
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| hunger | any idea when the suspend issue will be fixed in kubuntu? | 07:23 |
| jpatrick | i think they were talking about it in #ubuntu-devel | 07:24 |
| jpatrick | food now | 07:24 |
| hunger | jpatrick: It works in ubuntu (at least for me). | 07:26 |
| hunger | jpatrick: The sleep itself works fine (/etc/acpi/sleep.sh), acpid recognizes that I press the suspend button and fakes a keypress. | 07:28 |
| hunger | which then gets ignored. | 07:29 |
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| jpatrick | hunger: ok | 07:57 |
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| mornfall | yay | 09:49 |
| jpatrick | what? | 09:50 |
| mornfall | http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/installer-description.png | 09:51 |
| ubijtsa2 | mornfall: sweeet :) | 09:53 |
| apokryphos | wow, very sweet | 09:53 |
| jjesse | mornfall: that is really awesome :) | 09:56 |
| jpatrick | mornfall: wow, cool | 09:59 |
| === apokryphos still finds the long buttons odd :P | ||
| mornfall | apokryphos: that will be fixed when i get around to :p -- but it's compact (both space and code wise :) | 10:02 |
| apokryphos | and certainly user-friendly -- very nice to see. Great stuff, really 8) | 10:03 |
| apokryphos | mornfall: is it structured to order things by applications now, or something? | 10:04 |
| apokryphos | (rather than by packages?) | 10:04 |
| jpatrick | mornfall: no maintainer line? | 10:04 |
| jjesse | if so why the change/move? | 10:04 |
| === jpatrick wants to see his name there | ||
| mornfall | heh | 10:05 |
| mornfall | it's supposed to be ultra-simple | 10:05 |
| mornfall | not sure maintainer is crucial info for the user :P | 10:05 |
| apokryphos | mornfall: is this to be the main adept interface? | 10:05 |
| mornfall | not at all | 10:05 |
| apokryphos | oh ok | 10:05 |
| mornfall | there's no "main adept interface" | 10:05 |
| apokryphos | similar to gnome's/ubuntu's add/remove application? | 10:06 |
| mornfall | there are: manager, installer, updater and notifier | 10:06 |
| apokryphos | right | 10:06 |
| apokryphos | this is the installer, I take it | 10:06 |
| mornfall | considering the window title, yes :) | 10:06 |
| apokryphos | will the manager have all the other extra things (such as changelog, list of files) etc? | 10:06 |
| mornfall | no changelog | 10:06 |
| mornfall | technically nearly undoable | 10:06 |
| === apokryphos gets quite excited :P | ||
| apokryphos | Installer seems like the perfect thing for the new user | 10:07 |
| mornfall | apokryphos: consult http://people.freedesktop.org/~mornfall/adept-2006-02-12/manager9.png for filelist shot | 10:07 |
| mornfall | the screeny is fairly old, hmm | 10:07 |
| mornfall | let me take a new one | 10:08 |
| apokryphos | I haven't checked the development of it in some time; it's looking good 8) | 10:08 |
| apokryphos | "changelog" is listed there? | 10:08 |
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| mornfall | http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/manager-filelist.png | 10:09 |
| mornfall | the changelog will appear if some magic happens :-) | 10:09 |
| mornfall | otherwise i'll just drop the tab | 10:09 |
| apokryphos | right | 10:09 |
| mornfall | (it's currently empty) | 10:10 |
| apokryphos | hm, where/how does the search come in there? | 10:10 |
| mornfall | which search? | 10:10 |
| mornfall | the package list w/ filters? | 10:10 |
| mornfall | this is what you get after clicking "details" in the search | 10:10 |
| apokryphos | do you still use that svn on kde playground (?) for adept? Might be worth trying out | 10:11 |
| apokryphos | (unfortunately currently not in university halls, though, so stuck on suse for the day) | 10:11 |
| mornfall | it is in playground yes, but it's synced only rarely | 10:11 |
| mornfall | i have a local svk repository | 10:11 |
| mornfall | it's also a bitch to compile ;-) | 10:11 |
| apokryphos | oh ok | 10:11 |
| apokryphos | heh | 10:12 |
| apokryphos | it's looking nice =), is a version going to appear in dapper soon? | 10:13 |
| apokryphos | mind you, I'm totally ignorant of the one currently in dapper -- will have to check when I'm back. | 10:13 |
| mornfall | there's a week old version in dapper | 10:13 |
| apokryphos | nice, ok | 10:13 |
| mornfall | i'll chase Riddell tomorrow to upload the beta i'm working on now | 10:14 |
| === apokryphos looks forward to testing :) | ||
| mornfall | ha, *rapes kjanuswidget* | 10:21 |
| mornfall | and now it's time for a small bit of food :-) | 10:22 |
| mornfall | bbiab | 10:22 |
| jshadow | hey folks, in my plugin for katapult I'm getting a bunch of errors in the QT headers, mostly about uchar and other types, is there a typical cause for this? | 10:25 |
| jshadow | here's the errors http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/561684 | 10:29 |
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| toma | spellcheckcatalog.cpp:19 ? | 10:33 |
| jshadow | thats one of my source files | 10:34 |
| tvo | accidentally typed a random char before the #includes? | 10:34 |
| toma | paste? | 10:35 |
| jshadow | hmm lemmie look quick | 10:35 |
| jshadow | bah yes *// closing comments | 10:35 |
| jshadow | thanks | 10:35 |
| jshadow | down to only a few errors now.. maybe I'll have this going this weekend =) | 10:37 |
| tvo | cool | 10:41 |
| mornfall | uhm, anyone can confirm if gnome-app-install does this on startup? gobject.GError: Icon 'gnome-settings-default-applications' not present in theme | 10:50 |
| mornfall | instead of starting up that is | 10:50 |
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| seaLne | not on breezy | 10:52 |
| mornfall | dapper here | 10:53 |
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| mornfall | *sigh* | 10:56 |
| mornfall | this thing is messed up | 10:56 |
| jjesse_ | Riddell: yping? | 11:05 |
| === mornfall cries | ||
| mornfall | this gnome-app-install thing is so utterly broken :| | 11:11 |
| mornfall | every time i install it it dies with a different error | 11:11 |
| mornfall | i always managed to hack it to run | 11:11 |
| mornfall | apparently not this time | 11:11 |
| mornfall | die broken thing die | 11:14 |
| hunger | mornfall: Which thing in particular? | 11:15 |
| mornfall | hunger: gnome-app-install | 11:15 |
| hunger | mornfall: Why are you cursing about a gnome app on kubuntu-devel? ;-) | 11:15 |
| mornfall | because i am writing the kde alternative | 11:16 |
| hunger | mornfall: Oh, then you have my sympathy! | 11:17 |
| === hunger wanted to use a gnome-lib once in a C++ project and ended up having to redo the whole mess. | ||
| mornfall | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh | 11:32 |
| mornfall | i hate it | 11:32 |
| mornfall | let's give up | 11:32 |
| mornfall | i can't get it to run | 11:32 |
| mornfall | if not finding an icon is fatal error i guess that's enough to know | 11:33 |
| mornfall | it's so damn frustrating | 11:33 |
| mornfall | b-r-o-k-e-n | 11:34 |
| mornfall | it so totally makes me cringe | 11:35 |
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