[12:06] <EightiesK> when does dapper come out?
[12:06] <ccc_> end of april
[12:07] <ricky_ds> EightiesK: two more  months to wait...
[12:11] <daiver> I have a quick question regarding the installation of AMSN v0.95  Anyone up for it?
[12:14] <Psi-Jack> Grrr.
[12:16] <Ashex> 'sup
[12:17] <Psi-Jack> Stupid construction guys cut the cable today, so I've been down up till a couple minutes ago.
[12:19] <Psi-Jack> Umm
[12:22] <prueba2> hello
[12:25] <prueba2> I have a question of kde! i would like to increase the resolution of screen in my KDE. The problem is in Kcontrol i only choose 1024x768 , 800x600 and lower
[12:26] <prueba2> But i want 1280x1100, but i couldn select it witk Kcontrol
[12:26] <MarcC> prueba2, does this resolution show up in your xorg.conf file?
[12:27] <prueba2> I don know where is xorg.conf.
[12:28] <MarcC> prueba2, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:28] <prueba2> is in /etc/X11/xorg.cong??
[12:28] <prueba2> No.....
[12:28] <prueba2> it doesnt show up...
[12:28] <MarcC> what laptop do you have?
[12:28] <MarcC> make/model
[12:29] <MarcC> or is it a desktop?
[12:29] <prueba2> No is a normal pc...
[12:29] <prueba2> is a tft 
[12:29] <MarcC> ok, video card make/model and monitor make/model
[12:29] <prueba2> Hyundai..
[12:31] <Pyrobob> im having issues with gtk-gnutella...
[12:31] <Pyrobob> I can't search for anything
[12:32] <Pyrobob> it keeps saying Im firewalled and won't show any "push results"
[12:32] <Pyrobob> .....
[12:35] <Pyrobob> anyone?
[12:35] <Combatjuan> My kubuntu (Dapper TF2) box won't boot anymore and I'm struggling to understand why.  I suspect it has to do with installing the scratchbox package.
[12:35] <Combatjuan> Pyrobob, What's up?
[12:35] <slow-motion> n8
[12:35] <Pyrobob> my gtk-gnutella is not letting me see search results
[12:36] <kameron> i'm interested in doing a bit of music composition. what kind of midi tools are out there, also mixing programs, recording software, etc, for linux?
[12:36] <Combatjuan> The graphical kubuntu screen gets to "Starting system log daemon" and then dies to the console.  It looks like my filesystem was unable to mount.  "mount: proc already mounted" and a few more like that.  Then "cannot <do stuff> : Read-only file system"
[12:37] <Combatjuan> kameron, I was always pretty impressed with rosegarden for midi, but I'm not a music person, so take that for what it is worth.
[12:37] <Combatjuan> kameron, www.rosegardenmusic.com
[12:38] <Pyrobob> .....
[12:38] <kameron> Combatjuan, thank you very much :)
[12:39] <Combatjuan> kameron, You bet.  Happy linuxing.
[12:39] <Combatjuan> Pyrobob, Sorry, I'm not familiar with gtk-gnutella
[12:39] <kameron> word Combatjuan
[12:39] <Pyrobob> it has somthing to do with firewall settings...
[12:39] <Pyrobob> just i never configured a firewall on Linux before so I don't know how to fix it
[12:40] <noteventime> There are GUI frontends
[12:40] <noteventime> dont knwo which is the best though
[12:40] <fangorious> is there a way to set a proxy directly kopete, preferably per account (like gaim) but global would be ok
[12:41] <Pyrobob> ill check LQ...
[12:45] <Foodcoman> Is there a changelog somewhere that would tell me what was in the Kernel update 2.6.12.xxxxxx that I picked up today?
[12:46] <Hobbsee> Foodcoman: check ubuntu forums, in the announcement section
[12:46] <Foodcoman> thanks, what just there, didnt think to look in announc.....   =)
[12:48] <Foodcoman> Hobbsee: Security  then the USN-#'s you think?
[12:48] <Hobbsee> i'd say so...
[12:48] <Hobbsee> not sure what usn-#'s are though
[12:48] <Foodcoman> Hobbsee: Yep that is it.
[12:48] <Foodcoman> 250-1
[12:49] <Foodcoman> DOS attack to ICMP packet handler caused memory corruption.
[12:50] <Hobbsee_away> fun
[12:50] <Foodcoman> Thanks for the tip.
[12:51] <brydenn> hey Hobbsee_away ... what is one of the best Firewalls for Linux?
[12:51] <brydenn> i've heard Firestarter is good
[12:51] <rayeh> Is there a page with a list of known bugs in dapper?
[12:51] <brydenn> and someone else told me about "MyFirewall"
[12:52] <brydenn> or "KMyFirewall" rather
[12:52] <rayeh> I let my system upgrade to dapper, and with 2.6.15-15 and 2.6.15-14 on boot it can't find my first hard drive
[12:52] <rayeh> and then boots into busybox
[12:53] <rayeh> and i'm not sure what to do to resolve that
[12:53] <rayeh> it boots with older kernels, but it doesn't look like all of the modules are loading [that I can tell] 
[12:55] <rayeh> anyone have any suggestions?
[12:57] <tid-wave> hmmm
[12:57] <tid-wave> sketch program does not work(flight dapper 3
[12:57] <tid-wave> )
[01:00] <rayeh> going to try installing an earlier 2.6.15 version
[01:00] <nooby> How can I increase my screen resolution on kubuntu live?
[01:01] <nooby> To clarify, only the 640x480 resolution is available in the control center, but my monitor will display higher
[01:20] <Ashex> where does X store it's error logs?
[01:21] <Hobbsee_away> brydenn: i cant stand firestarter, it made my samba stop working.  i usually use guarddog
[01:28] <Ashex> so, does anyone know?
[01:30] <fookinchiken> hello
[01:30] <noteventime> ello
[01:30] <fookinchiken> hows you ?
[01:31] <angasule> I want libcurl.so.2 , but the default version is libcurl.so.3, how do I install an older version (I don't want to remove the current one, it's probably there for a reason)
[01:32] <noteventime> What distro are you running?
[01:33] <angasule> kubuntu
[01:33] <noteventime> Cant you just try to install the old package
[01:33] <noteventime> sometimes there are oldoackages in the repositrys
[01:33] <noteventime> for backward comp
[01:33] <angasule> I don't see it in adept
[01:33] <noteventime> ok :/
[01:34] <noteventime> maybe make a copy of libcurl.so.3 called libcurl.so.2 and hope its backward compatible :/
[01:34] <angasule> I was thinking of linking, if no one could give me a better solution
[01:34] <german> hello
[01:34] <angasule> but I think I tried that before and didn't work
[01:35] <angasule> hi german
[01:35] <german> does anyone know the password of the root user?
[01:35] <angasule> where are you from, german?
[01:35] <angasule> german: there is no root user
[01:35] <angasule> !root
[01:35] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:35] <noteventime> you have to create a password for root
[01:35] <german> yes
[01:35] <angasule> german: look at the link ubotu said
[01:35] <angasule> it's a *bad* idea to create a pass for root
[01:36] <german> but I know that but I tipe in the konsole SU and the pass of my user and it says Failed Athentication
[01:36] <noteventime> try sudo insteaad
[01:36] <Jaymac> type su -H
[01:36] <german> also try sudo
[01:36] <german> ok
[01:36] <Jaymac> not H
[01:36] <Jaymac> err
[01:36] <Jaymac> wait
[01:37] <german> ok
[01:37] <Jaymac> meh, sudo passwd root
[01:37] <Jaymac> but why do you want to do this?
[01:38] <german> becouse i have kubuntu in other pc and the only way to open my pendrive is with this type of user
[01:39] <german> when i try sudo passwd root
[01:39] <german> it says Sorry Try, Again
[01:41] <angasule> german: type 'sudo su' and type in your user password
[01:41] <german> ok
[01:41] <german> thanks
[01:43] <german> what it could be that in a normal user with admin, privilies it doesent let me open the pendrive and in the root users it thus?
[01:45] <prueba2> hello
[01:46] <Ashex> Hookay
[01:46] <prueba2> who can i change my resolution to 1280x1000 if it doesnt appear in kcontrol?
[01:46] <Ashex> I'm looking at my error log for X
[01:47] <Ashex> when I boot up I can't get a gui for login
[01:47] <prueba2> Only appear 1024x768 and lower..
[01:47] <Ashex> the error log shows 'XAAInit Error' on the last line
[01:49] <prueba2> Hi i have a question....
[01:50] <prueba2> Who can i change my resolution to 1280x1000 if it doesnt appear in kcontrol? only apper 1024x768 and lower..
[01:50] <prueba2> in my xorg.conf only appear "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:51] <prueba2> ???????
[01:51] <ethan> I need help with a sound problem
[01:51] <osh_> prueba2: add 1280x1024 in xorg.conf and restart it. Could work. Add it first in line.
[01:53] <prueba2> yes
[01:53] <prueba2> i do it..
[01:53] <prueba2> but it doesnt appear in kcontrol..
[01:54] <prueba2> i add it such root, yesterday and it doesnt appear(i cant choose it)
[01:54] <prueba2> is there some archive which saves thos configuration to change to 1280?
[01:57] <prueba2> ???
[02:01] <prueba2> osh: do you know what can i do
[02:03] <ComPro> hey i was wondering if anyone knew how to get m4a support working in kubuntu, more specifically, amarok. i've followed all the guidelines. i have w32codecs installed, gstreamer-faad, pretty much anything you could think of to get it working. i saw something on the amarok faq for gstreamer-quicktime in order to make it work, but i haven't seen mention of that anywhere else, nor can i find the file. any ideas on how i could get t
[02:04] <hupp3l> why not just install vlc?
[02:04] <ComPro> i have not given that a shot. i want that to be a last ditch effort, so to speak. i'd really like to use one program for all of my media, and i want to use amarok.
[02:06] <hupp3l> o ok well sorry in that case i cant help you
[02:06] <ComPro> well
[02:06] <hupp3l> vlc will do all your media but if you insist on amarok im sorry.
[02:06] <ComPro> hm
[02:06] <ComPro> i'll look at vlc
[02:06] <ComPro> if that's the only way, for now, i'll try it
[02:07] <ComPro> but if anyone in here knows how to get amarok to play m4a's, i'd really appreciate your help.
[02:12] <ComPro> i just installed vlc and it won't play the files either
[02:12] <ComPro> [00000300]  mp4 private error: drms_init( priv ) failed
[02:12] <ComPro> that is what i get
[02:12] <ComPro> even though i unlocked all of my m4p's into m4a's this morning
[02:24] <ComPro> does anyone know why an unprotected m4a would produce an "mp4 private error: drms_init( priv ) failed" error?
[02:25] <ComPro> sorry, i forgot to say it was in VLC
[02:28] <Ashex> anyone who's dual-booting Kubuntu and windows
[02:29] <Ashex> I strongly recommend you get this: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:29] <Ashex> allows you to mount linux partitions :)
[02:29] <ComPro> sweet
[02:30] <ComPro> will it recognize it if linux is installed on a separate drive from windows?
[02:36] <MenZa`> Awesome :)
[02:36] <MenZa`> I just have a 64 bit cpu ;\
[02:42] <Ashex> cripes
[02:42] <Ashex> ComPro: It'll recognize the partition on a seperate drive
[02:42] <Ashex> I need to convert a rpm to a targz
[02:45] <JasonF> ComPro: you came to IRC without me having to ask you, I'm proud of you.
[02:45] <ComPro> stfu jay lol
[02:45] <Ashex> grr
[02:46] <Ashex> how do I convert rpm to tar.gz?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> !alien
[02:47] <ubotu> it has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[02:47] <Hobbsee> why do you want it to go to a .tar.gz?
[02:49] <Ashex> I'm trying to install ati drivers, and I just need to :P
[02:49] <Ashex> http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/r4000-gentoo.html
[02:49] <Ashex> I'm following some instructions and I'm instructed to do that :/
[02:49] <Hobbsee> !ati
[02:49] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:49] <Hobbsee> you cant use those instead?
[02:50] <ComPro> ok so i found an RPM of gstreamer-quicktime and installed it after converting it to a DEB, but i still can't play my m4a's in any program, not even vlc
[02:50] <Ashex> the reason I'm using that one is because it's specifically for the r4000, my latop
[02:50] <Ashex> laptop*
[02:50] <ComPro> in VLC, i get "[00000300]  mp4 private error: drms_init( priv ) failed"
[02:50] <zephryos> I need some help really quick >.<
[02:50] <Ashex> plus I'm not using Kubuntu to do this
[02:51] <Ashex> I can't get Kubuntu to load due to errors with X
[02:51] <Ashex> so I'm running VMware with Feather linux
[02:51] <Zephryos> I need help getting my wireless netowrk card working. Can anyone help?
[02:52] <JasonF> crimsun: *poke*
[02:52] <Zephryos> Hello?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: hi
[02:53] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[02:53] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:53] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:53] <Zephryos> lets see if it wil say anything about WPA encryption >.<
[02:54] <Hobbsee> work along that, and show what it does
[02:54] <Hobbsee> !wpa
[02:54] <ubotu> wpa is, like, totally, enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[02:54] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[02:54] <Zephryos> I cant read that fast >.>
[02:54] <Zephryos> lol
[02:54] <Hobbsee> !no wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[02:54] <ubotu> okay, Hobbsee
[02:54] <Hobbsee> !wpa
[02:54] <ubotu> I heard wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[02:54] <Hobbsee> good :)
[02:55] <Zephryos> ok i already have wpasupplicant and xsupplicant
[02:56] <Hobbsee> yep, so how far have you gotten?
[02:56] <Zephryos> hmm well last time i did it with someone
[02:56] <Zephryos> it was detecting it
[02:56] <Hobbsee> yep
[02:56] <crimsun> JasonF: ?
[02:56] <Zephryos> and now the card still wont come up as even there
[02:56] <Hobbsee> what card is it?
[02:56] <JasonF> crimsun: are there any ubuntu tools that will play m4p?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> and could it connect to the internet without the wpa encryption on the router?
[02:57] <Zephryos> Motorola WPCI850G ... or is it 810G...
[02:57] <Zephryos> ....
[02:57] <JasonF> crimsun: I've been looking for gstreamer-quicktime to no avail
[02:57] <JasonF> but I'd prefer them just play in amorok
[02:57] <Zephryos> No my stupid stepdad is an idiot and wont switch it to WEP
[02:57] <crimsun> JasonF: not m4p but m4a
[02:57] <JasonF> yeah, that
[02:57] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: ask if he can take all the encryption off just for testing?
[02:57] <JasonF> they are unprotected itunes files
[02:57] <crimsun> JasonF: install gstreamer0.8-faad
[02:58] <JasonF> crimsun: will that enable amorok?
[02:58] <crimsun> JasonF: you probably want to test amarok 1.4 beta for proper m4a support (library)
[02:58] <Zephryos> No he wont.. he thinks the neighborhood will all HIJACK HIS network and do some malicious crap... (hes a stupid retarded idiot that is going tio get a reality check when my motgher divorces him -.-)
[02:58] <JasonF> crimsun: is that in daper?
[02:58] <Zephryos> ...
[02:58] <JasonF> *dapper?
[02:58] <crimsun> JasonF: in previous (1.3.x), it will play them but not add them to the library
[02:58] <crimsun> JasonF: /topic
[02:58] <Zephryos> damn keyboard
[02:58] <JasonF> thanks
[02:59] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: right...so...your computer recognises the wireless card at all?
[02:59] <Zephryos> nope
[02:59] <Hobbsee> do you know if linux supports it?
[02:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:59] <Zephryos> It should using the wpa supplicant..
[02:59] <brydenn> ok Hobbsee
[03:00] <brydenn> need some help
[03:00] <brydenn> this crap is p@ssing me off
[03:00] <Zephryos> I also got someone to extract the .inf and some other file from the windows driver version
[03:00] <brydenn> RAWR lol
[03:00] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: are there lights on your card flashing?
[03:00] <Zephryos> ....
[03:00] <Zephryos> ok I'm not that stupid -.-
[03:00] <Zephryos> but no...
[03:00] <Zephryos> they arent
[03:01] <Hobbsee> serious question - its' to tell if ndiswrapper is working or not :P
[03:01] <Zephryos> zephryos@Dragon:~$ ndiswrapper -l
[03:01] <Zephryos> Installed ndis drivers:
[03:01] <Zephryos> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[03:02] <Hobbsee> ok
[03:02] <Hobbsee> what shows in iwconfig?  pastebin it?
[03:02] <Zephryos> iwconfig shows no wireless ext's
[03:02] <Zephryos> zephryos@Dragon:~$ iwconfig
[03:02] <Zephryos> lo        no wireless extensions.
[03:02] <Zephryos> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[03:02] <Zephryos> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[03:02] <Zephryos> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[03:02] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[03:02] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:02] <Zephryos> theres no spam kick on this channel right? o.O
[03:03] <Zephryos> ....
[03:03] <Zephryos> lol
[03:03] <Hobbsee> there is
[03:03] <Zephryos> ....
[03:03] <Zephryos> This isnt gnome -.-
[03:03] <Hobbsee> true
[03:03] <Hobbsee> it does get distracting though
[03:03] <Zephryos> Trust me... i know this >.> My friend wont stop ranting about how gnome is better than kde.... but w/e
[03:04] <Hobbsee> lol
[03:04] <Zephryos> Hes like one of u linux guru's >.>
[03:04] <Hobbsee> try sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:04] <Zephryos> works for goverment and stuff
[03:04] <Zephryos> no feedback or anything
[03:05] <Zephryos> ... output.. i mean
[03:05] <Hobbsee> and the lights on the card are still off, i take it?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> they should have flashed by that point
[03:05] <Zephryos> yup
[03:06] <alfabit> wenas
[03:06] <Zephryos> there it is
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: drat.  you're on breezy?
[03:06] <Hobbsee> what just happened?
[03:06] <Zephryos> It flashed wshen i entered it again
[03:06] <Zephryos> I wasnt lookin first time...
[03:06] <Zephryos> It flashed when i inputted it
[03:06] <Zephryos> Yup on breezy
[03:07] <Hobbsee> yay!
[03:07] <Hobbsee> now try iwconfig, and pastebin it
[03:07] <Zephryos> can i just pm it to u -.-
[03:07] <alfabit> mi gears of glxgears are very slow but the fps are 1300 :S, i have the nvidia drivers
[03:07] <Zephryos> nvidia ^^
[03:07] <Zephryos> Lovely
[03:08] <alfabit> and the cpu it's 100%
[03:08] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: do a sudo ndiswrapper -m
[03:08] <alfabit> but directrendering=Yes
[03:08] <Hobbsee> yeah, if you want
[03:08] <alfabit> i dunno :S
[03:08] <alfabit> the glxgears it's dammed :S
[03:09] <Zephryos> modprobe config already contains alias directive
[03:09] <Hobbsee> yep, so that's working
[03:09] <Zephryos> I still get no feedback from glxgears lol
[03:09] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: what does iwconfig show?  and dont paste it into the main channel!
[03:09] <Zephryos> just shows but no output
[03:10] <Zephryos> .. bah gotta tregister to msg u
[03:11] <Hobbsee> !register
[03:11] <ubotu> it has been said that register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[03:11] <Hobbsee> otherwise use the pastebin
[03:11] <tilo> 'ello again :)
[03:11] <noteventime> 'ello again
[03:11] <noteventime> You ppl still here?
[03:12] <Zephryos> ok here we go
[03:15] <httpdss> Zephryos: whats the brand-model
[03:15] <Zephryos> Motorola WPCI850G ... or is it 810G...
[03:15] <Zephryos> one of those...
[03:15] <Zephryos> lol
[03:15] <Zephryos> I'm workin with Hobbsee on it tho...
[03:16] <Zephryos> Got it up .. but trying to get it to stay up all the time and connect to a WPA router is the next problem
[03:21] <httpdss> Zephryos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/560570
[03:22] <Zephryos> ?
[03:23] <httpdss> Zephryos: thats an example of a workin wlan0 ..
[03:23] <Zephryos> >.>
[03:23] <Zephryos> umm...
[03:24] <Zephryos> Do i enter than in Console? o.O
[03:24] <httpdss> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[03:24] <httpdss> Zephryos: yup console
[03:36] <rance> mathguy01
[03:37] <rance> sorry guys
[03:37] <rance> wrong screen
[03:48] <Kalidarn> ive MD5 checked my iso, and then burnt it to CD and done a binary check on that. now it seems at 85% "Preparing for instillation" it hangs. when i change to the console viewie alt f4  i see the error "should i continue or install the other packages anyway" unrecognized imput ether enter "yes" "no" or something, anyway its scrolling reallly fast spamming it up so i can't read it.
[03:48] <Kalidarn> i reburnt the disc too and it still seems to do this, yet i don't remember having this trouble before.
[03:50] <Kalidarn> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75517.html seems to blame CDR
[03:50] <Kalidarn> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm im thinking i wont use shitty laser discs
[03:54] <[koji] > is there a way to force restart especially if there is kernel update?
[03:54] <Hobbsee> [koji] : sudo shutdown now -r?
[03:55] <[koji] > i mean automatically
[03:56] <Kalidarn> isn't it sudo reboot i think that works too
[03:58] <Hobbsee> er, pass
[04:10] <SecretSquirrel> *sigh*  This is getting frustrating.  Would someone care to volunteer to point out the obvious to me?
[04:10] <Hobbsee_away> SecretSquirrel: what's the question?
[04:10] <SecretSquirrel> I'm having wireless networking issues.
[04:10] <SecretSquirrel> Specifically, I can't get the interface to come online anymore.
[04:11] <Hobbsee_away> what happens when you do a sudo ifup wlan0?
[04:11] <SecretSquirrel> I've found a couple of similar issues in the support forums, but nothing has pointed out the problem to me.
[04:12] <SecretSquirrel> In my case, it's eth2 but this is what I get:
[04:12] <SecretSquirrel> admin@tux:/lib/hotplug/firmware$ sudo ifup eth2
[04:12] <SecretSquirrel> ifup: interface eth2 already configured
[04:13] <SecretSquirrel> However the interface isn't online.
[04:13] <Hobbsee_away> ok, and sudo dhclient eth2?
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> Listening on LPF/eth2/00:30:b4:00:00:00
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> Sending on   LPF/eth2/00:30:b4:00:00:00
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[04:14] <Hobbsee_away> !pastebin
[04:14] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> receive_packet failed on eth2: Network is down
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> DHCPDISCOVER on eth2 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> send_packet: Network is down
[04:14] <SecretSquirrel> oops...  :)
[04:14] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:14] <Hobbsee> i was thinking...chanserv seems pretty slow!
[04:15] <Hobbsee> want to paste the entire thing to the pastebin, along with ifconfig and iwconfig?
[04:15] <SecretSquirrel> sure, just a sec
[04:19] <SecretSquirrel> What is strange is that it used to work.  Unfortunately, I've changed many things between it working and noticing that it didn't.
[04:19] <SecretSquirrel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8800
[04:20] <Hobbsee> hehe yep
[04:20] <Hobbsee> the rule is: once it works, dont play
[04:20] <SecretSquirrel> This is still a pretty much fresh install.
[04:21] <SecretSquirrel> My first foray into kubuntu land.
[04:21] <Kalidarn> what brand of wireless network card?
[04:21] <Kalidarn> internel or external
[04:21] <SecretSquirrel> internal
[04:22] <Kalidarn> what brand?
[04:22] <SecretSquirrel> 0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Intersil ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette]  (rev 01)
[04:22] <Kalidarn> oh ok
[04:22] <Kalidarn> i havn't heard of them
[04:22] <Kalidarn> i have an Intel ProWirless B/G ipw2200
[04:23] <Hobbsee> hmmm...i'm not sure
[04:24] <SecretSquirrel> from the logs:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8801
[04:27] <Hostile> Ok my KDE time is right, but my system time is off because its set to UTC or something therefor my gmail timestamps are off, how do I set my system time to my timezone?
[04:28] <Kalidarn> click on the clock and change it
[04:28] <Hostile> Kalidarn: that is the KDE clock
[04:28] <Hostile> I want to change the system clock
[04:28] <Kalidarn> oh
[04:28] <Kalidarn> what the one in the BIOS?
[04:28] <Kalidarn> just restart the machine press F2/Delete or whatever and change it there
[04:29] <Hostile> No the main linux clock, the one that shows the time when i type date
[04:29] <Kalidarn> that probly gets it from the bios
[04:29] <Hostile> Its one of those settings like Is hardware clock set to GMT? and I think I gave it the wrong answer
[04:29] <Kalidarn> ah i see what u mean ;P
[04:29] <Kalidarn> ah hehe
[04:29] <Kalidarn> that might be why
[04:30] <Kalidarn> because its set to gmt and you said it was set to UTC
[04:30] <Kalidarn> so its overcorrecting
[04:30] <Hostile> Yeah my kde clock is right, but gmail does time stamps compared to the system clock, so its 1030 here, but my emails are coming it at like 5AM
[04:30] <Kalidarn> should be a way of chanting it
[04:30] <Hostile> Kalidarn: yeah there is a way, I just don't know how right off the top of my head :(
[04:30] <Kalidarn> ;P
[04:30] <Kalidarn> check 'how to change my linux system clock' in google
[04:31] <Kalidarn> ;) im sure it would be a command the same on all linux distributions
[04:31] <SecretSquirrel> I believe it's set in /etc/adjtime
[04:32] <Hostile> SecretSquirrel: I changed LOCAL, to GMT, but how do I make the change take effect?
[04:32] <SecretSquirrel> hrm, not sure.  Just a sec
[04:34] <Kalidarn> http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html
[04:35] <Hostile> Oh btw if anyone is into gaming and needs a gaming mouse, Logitech MX518, got one today for 50 bucks, nice mouse, 400, 800, and 1600dpi settings, Nice
[04:36] <SecretSquirrel> Hostile, sudo /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart might be enough.  I imagine a reboot would cure it too, but then I've never tried it.
[04:37] <SecretSquirrel> Hrm, perhaps I'll just re-install and be a little more careful with the wireless nic this time.
[04:39] <Mythri1> does Kubuntu have a firewall built in and on by default?
[04:42] <Kalidarn> iptables
[04:43] <Kalidarn> you can get a GUI for it called firestarter
[04:44] <Mythri1> any qt based apps?
[04:44] <Kalidarn> i don't know
[04:44] <Kalidarn> ;p
[04:44] <Kalidarn> if u find one tell me
[04:45] <Red_Herring> hey!
[04:48] <Red_Herring> <awekward silence?
[04:48] <Red_Herring> *>
[04:48] <Kalidarn> nah this channel doesn't spam as much as #ubuntu
[04:48] <Kalidarn> ;)
[04:48] <Red_Herring> thats a really good thing
[04:49] <Kalidarn> yes
[04:49] <Red_Herring> there are noticably less n00bs here
[04:49] <Red_Herring> but thats just because there are less people here
[04:54] <Kalidarn> okay this time i used a verbatim disc
[04:54] <Kalidarn> lets hope it doesn't fail
[04:54] <Kalidarn> im seriously pissed at having it freeze
[04:59] <sambagirl> hi i am installing configuring krb5-config and it is asking me what are the Kerberos servers for your realm? what is this?
[05:00] <sambagirl> have i gotten into something to deep?
[05:00] <sambagirl> acn someone give me some directions?
[05:00] <sambagirl> all i want to do is have telnet running for people to access the bbs is all.
[05:00] <Red_Herring> no clue
[05:01] <sambagirl> what can i use to have my bbs telnet able?
[05:01] <sambagirl> i just want to do it and stop i am tired of it.
[05:02] <sambagirl> i am running kubuntu so can someone tell me what to do to have telnetable access for my bbs? i just want to add the telnet server and that is all i want
[05:02] <sambagirl> that's it
[05:02] <sambagirl> just the telnet server
[05:02] <sambagirl> just that
[05:04] <Kalidarn> ARG
[05:05] <Kalidarn> anyone had kubuntu install freeze at 85% of the second phase
[05:05] <Kalidarn> im having it happen all the damn time
[05:05] <Kalidarn> ive burnt 3 different disks, checked the MD5s
[05:05] <sambagirl> doesnt anyone know anything in here about telnet server?
[05:05] <Kalidarn> and checked the MD5 of the iso i was burning from with the original.
[05:06] <Kalidarn> don't know much about telnet
[05:06] <Kalidarn> ;)
[05:06] <Kalidarn> or i owuld help.
[05:06] <sambagirl> laugh
[05:07] <sambagirl> 130 people in here and all i get is a red herring
[05:07] <Kalidarn> Should I go ahead and install the packages anyway? To continue , enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": Unrecognized imput. Enter either "Yes" or "No".
[05:07] <Kalidarn> it just spams that
[05:08] <Kalidarn> liek millions and millions of times in the tty4 session
[05:08] <Kalidarn> and the tty1 which is the installer for the kubuntu disc just keeps freezing at 85% of the second phase, ie after it's rebooted. just goes "installing packages" Preparing for Installation"
[05:08] <Kalidarn> and freezes.
[05:09] <Kalidarn> and im supposed to have this stupid box working within an hour
[05:11] <Red_Herring> i am confused
[05:13] <Kalidarn> basically the installation keeps freezing.
[05:14] <Kalidarn> and the imstallation keeps giving itself the wrong imput command
[05:14] <Kalidarn> ive installed it before on here and now it wont fucking work for the life of me.... it really should.
[05:14] <Red_Herring> huh
[05:14] <Red_Herring> calm down
[05:14] <Red_Herring> what version?
[05:14] <Kalidarn> 5.10
[05:15] <Red_Herring> and what step does it fail on?
[05:15] <Kalidarn> the second phase, ie after its copied everything to the hardrive
[05:15] <Kalidarn> at 85%
[05:15] <Red_Herring> well
[05:15] <Kalidarn> which is where its  Preparing for Installation
[05:15] <Red_Herring> is it a bad CD?
[05:15] <Kalidarn> obviously not
[05:15] <Kalidarn> ive checked the ISO
[05:15] <Red_Herring> ok
[05:15] <Kalidarn> and ive burnt it and tried it 3 different times
[05:15] <Red_Herring> do you have enough enough hard drive space?
[05:16] <Kalidarn> and i know this burner works okay its a Pioneer
[05:16] <Kalidarn> ah yes, it has 10GB
[05:16] <inf3rno> `ello aoo
[05:16] <inf3rno> all
[05:16] <Red_Herring> 10gb
[05:16] <Red_Herring> thats big enough
[05:16] <Kalidarn> yeah
[05:16] <Red_Herring> did you try a fs check?
[05:16] <Kalidarn> it's been formatted
[05:16] <Kalidarn> it is a logical partition though
[05:16] <Kalidarn> is that what could be screwing it up?
[05:16] <Kalidarn> does / have to be on a primary?
[05:16] <Red_Herring> well, it might
[05:16] <Red_Herring> i dont think you can boot those
[05:16] <Kalidarn> i bet thats whats causing it
[05:17] <Kalidarn> hmm
[05:17] <Red_Herring> why do you even have them?
[05:17] <Kalidarn> if windows wasn't so gay with its partition manager i wouldn't have half these problems lol
[05:17] <inf3rno> i'm curious as to if someone could point me to a HOWTO or some documentation for installing ALSA support in Ubuntu/Kubuntu Breezy 5.10 -- I'm very new to Ubuntu, but I've got everything almost setup aside from this. =) Thanks for any help.
[05:17] <Red_Herring> i never need more than 4 partitions per hd
[05:17] <Red_Herring> !alsa
[05:17] <ubotu> it has been said that alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[05:17] <Red_Herring> !dmiz
[05:17] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[05:17] <Red_Herring> !dmix
[05:17] <ubotu> methinks dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:17] <Red_Herring> inf3rno, check above ^
[05:19] <inf3rno> i do not see a preferences menu, or multimedia system selector anywhere in the system folder (or in any other menu) -- can it be accessed another way?
[05:19] <Red_Herring> ok
[05:19] <Red_Herring> are you using kubuntu?
[05:20] <inf3rno> *nod*
[05:20] <Red_Herring> !alsa
[05:20] <ubotu> alsa is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[05:20] <Red_Herring> try that
[05:21] <inf3rno> !alsa event not found, it seems
[05:21] <ubotu> inf3rno: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:22] <Red_Herring> uhhh
[05:22] <Red_Herring>  the !alsa
[05:22] <Red_Herring> is a command to tell the bot here to look up alsa
[05:22] <Red_Herring> check out the link
[05:22] <inf3rno> ha, long time no IRC. =/
[05:23] <Red_Herring> yea
[05:23] <Red_Herring> im getting an irc server started
[05:23] <Red_Herring> its tough!
[05:23] <inf3rno> eww, =/ sounds like it'd be hairy
[05:23] <Red_Herring> eh
[05:23] <Red_Herring> its really not that much work
[05:24] <Red_Herring> i really am just using the basic config
[05:24] <Red_Herring> and added myself to the O line
[05:39] <gamma> anyone have success with xgl+kde-window-decorator?
[05:39] <Red_Herring> xgl?
[05:39] <Red_Herring> has it been backported?
[05:39] <gamma> dunno.. im on dapper
[05:39] <Red_Herring> huh
[05:40] <gamma> backported to breezy you mean?
[05:40] <Red_Herring> yeah
[05:40] <Red_Herring> or even dapper
[05:40] <gamma> it's on dapper to my knowledge..
[05:40] <gamma> or compiz is anyway
[05:40] <Red_Herring> !xgl
[05:40] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:41] <gamma> thankies
[06:04] <_lionel> hola alguien ahi
[06:05] <_lionel> hey alguien necesito ayuda
[06:05] <Red_Herring> !es
[06:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:06] <_lionel> no encontre por eso pido aca
[06:06] <Red_Herring> is that right?
[06:07] <_lionel> ok
[06:07] <_lionel> alguien en espaol
[06:08] <Red_Herring> que?
[06:24] <dunefan> where can I find a comprehensive repository list for the hedgehog?
[06:28] <MeshGearFox> Ah, hello. I was having some problems with the partitioning bit in the installer and was wondering if anyone was well versed in that.
[06:35] <Fotinakis> hello all
[06:35] <MeshGearFox> Hi ^^
[06:37] <Fotinakis> question: I have kubuntu installed on hda and need to switch it to be a slave drive, hdb.  Do I only have to edit the grub.conf to make it specify the second harddrive rather than the first in order for it to work?---or is there something else that I would have to change too
[06:38] <Fotinakis> and /etc/mtab, I'd have to edit that
[06:38] <Fotinakis> right? anything else?
[06:39] <MeshGearFox> Hm... I think we're the only two still awake :)
[06:39] <MeshGearFox> It is getting pretty late...
[06:39] <Fotinakis> ah ;)
[06:39] <Fotinakis> maybe I'll post to the forums
[06:39] <MeshGearFox> Oh, hey, Fotnakis. You wouldn't, er, know much about the partitioning tool, would you? In the installer?
[06:40] <Fotinakis> what do you need to know?
[06:41] <MeshGearFox> Well, when I go into the, er, last option in the partitioning tool to manually set my mount points and whatnot, after I have them set, selecting the save changes and finalize partitions option doesn't do anything. It just bumps me back to the same screen where I set mount points and whatnot.
[06:45] <Fotinakis> have you made sure to partition correctly with a /boot partition, swap, /, etc?
[06:46] <MeshGearFox> It needs a SWAP to work? I was told I wouldn't need one because you can make swapfiles in linux now.
[06:47] <Fotinakis> I'm not sure if that is true
[06:47] <somethingstupid> hi can anybody please help me i am trying to run a .deb of a messenger clone i downloaded but it comes up with an error message
[06:47] <Fotinakis> but I partition like this
[06:47] <Fotinakis>  /boot --> about 70 mb
[06:47] <MeshGearFox> This guy I know and trust a lot said I could, but I think he's a gentoo user. I know he's not Kubuntu, so it mightbe different for him.
[06:47] <Fotinakis>  /
[06:47] <Fotinakis>  swap
[06:47] <jarr3d> what is a comparable program to kazaa for kubuntu users?
[06:48] <Fotinakis> jarr3d --->  try gtk-gnutella
[06:48] <jarr3d> cool
[06:48] <Fotinakis> and then a /var, /tmp, /usr, and /home
[06:48] <Fotinakis> but you don't need all those
[06:48] <MeshGearFox> Oh hey Gnutella I remember that.
[06:48] <MeshGearFox> why do you need /boot? Isn't that just a restore partition of sorts?
[06:48] <MeshGearFox> Something you can get into if something eats itself?
[06:49] <somethingstupid> can anyone help me with running the .deb?
[06:49] <MeshGearFox> something: Oh, hang on.
[06:49] <MeshGearFox> I don't know myself, but someone linked to a big info page on the forums
[06:49] <somethingstupid> really? which forum www.kubuntuforums.net ?
[06:49] <Fotinakis> yeah, I'm pretty sure you need the /boot partition, and it needs to be the first partition, and set to primary, and have the bootable flag set (done in the partitioner)
[06:49] <MeshGearFox> http://www.psychocats.net/linux/installingsoftware.php <- This miht help.
[06:50] <MeshGearFox> Never heard I actually NEEDED a /boot partition before O_o. None of the, er, installation guides mention it, and nobody I've talked to other than you has one...
[06:50] <somethingstupid> thanks
[06:50] <somethingstupid> :D
[06:51] <somethingstupid> ill check it out
[06:51] <Fotinakis> Mesh: really? thought it was pretty standard to have one
[06:52] <somethingstupid> the utility ar is not in your PATH -what does that mean?
[06:52] <MeshGearFox> I actually sort of almost got beyond the partitioner once but it gave me something about my FAT tables not matching. Which I didn't exactly understand but I think I may've fixed it.
[06:55] <MeshGearFox> Oh, wait, are you on a linux-only box? This partitioning guided I found lists /boot for a linux-only system, but not for a dual boot.
[06:57] <Fotinakis> I'm dual booting
[06:57] <MeshGearFox> Huh.
[06:57] <MeshGearFox> Well, if I need one, I can probably make it later.
[06:57] <MeshGearFox> The ubuntu chan looks pretty... lively. I think i'll try asking there.
[06:57] <gamma> i just tried gnome-2.14 out on ubuntu.. and nothing great :P
[06:58] <Fotinakis> \join #ubuntu
[06:58] <Fotinakis> whoops
[06:58] <Fotinakis> lol
[06:58] <MeshGearFox> Gnome looks... intensely ugly to me :/
[06:58] <hatake_kakashi> different tastes :P
[06:58] <Fotinakis> it's simple and good, and it works, but I tried it for a few months and now I'm back to KDE because it is more customizeable
[06:59] <MeshGearFox> Yeah. It's more minimal, I guess.
[06:59] <MeshGearFox> But I'm not big on minimalism.
[06:59] <gamma> it's more crippled.. not even minimal
[06:59] <gamma> i used to be a huge fan, but after trying kde for a day (and initially hating it) i prefer kde way more
[06:59] <Red_Herring> CLI RULES!
[07:00] <gamma> haha
[07:00] <somethingstupid> hey does anyone know if kubuntu has Tcl 8.4 already installed with it?
[07:00] <Red_Herring> !cli
[07:00] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: ever had woes with gam-server? if not, then don't announce KDE on kubuntu as great. I had to switch because of that problem which has been bugging me
[07:02] <Fotinakis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[07:03] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: if i don't care about realtime updating of my directories can i say kubuntu is great? ;)
[07:03] <Fotinakis> mesh: I take it back, that link doesn't have anything good
[07:03] <MeshGearFox> Yeah, already read through that :P
[07:04] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: probably, but just don't go around claiming that Gnome is a defacto of KDE. Different users have different tastes
[07:04] <somethingstupid> im really sorry but how do i install from a deb it seems like it needs something called "dependancies"
[07:04] <hatake_kakashi> somethingstupid: apt-get, etc
[07:04] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: dude, seriously chill
[07:04] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: i said gnome was nothing great, no need to flame
[07:05] <gamma> this is the #kubuntu channel too last time i checked
[07:05] <Fotinakis> something: sudo apt-get install package-name
[07:05] <somethingstupid> so wat would i type into the command if the file is amsn.deb?
[07:05] <MeshGearFox> The only really meaningful complaint I've ever heard about gnome is that it's apparently rather high on the resource uptake. And I can't verify that, for, er, obvious reasons.
[07:05] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: I just had a gut feeling that you sounded like KDE extremist
[07:05] <somethingstupid> thankyou so much
[07:05] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: seeing how i've been using gnome since the 1.x days you are mistaken.. i switched to kde a month ago
[07:06] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: well that is what I didn't know. At least you won't have to deal with gam-server. Which must have been an added benefit for you
[07:07] <hatake_kakashi> and fyi, I still have kubuntu-desktop intact, I just find Gnome somewhat a little different if not creative
[07:07] <somethingstupid> E: couldn't find package amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[07:08] <hatake_kakashi> somethingstupid: apt-get install amsn
[07:08] <somethingstupid> ok ill try that thanks
[07:09] <stupendo44> Question: this is a pretty broad question. I'm trying to get this mini dv camcorder to work with Kubuntu, but I'm not sure where to start. I don't see it automatically mounting, but it does act like it's doing something. Can someone walk me through this?
[07:09] <stupendo44> The camera is connected through usb, rather than firewire
[07:09] <somethingstupid> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:09] <somethingstupid> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:10] <hatake_kakashi> somethingstupid: you have something that is using apt, do lsof| grep apt
[07:10] <Fotinakis> or make sure you're using sudo
[07:10] <somethingstupid> Warning can't start
[07:11] <somethingstupid> Output information may be incomplete
[07:12] <somethingstupid> WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[07:12] <hatake_kakashi> stupendo44: I don't happen to own a mini-dv camera so I cannot help you that much. However I have a magazine that discusses on how to get stuff from the equipment via kino. The guide discusses how to get it via firewire
[07:13] <hatake_kakashi> somethingstupid: did you do sudo apt-get install amsn?
[07:13] <stupendo44> hatake_kakashi: thanks for answering. I don't have firewire on my computer, so I can only connect it using usb. I looked at kino, and it looks like it only works with firewire. dvgrab also looks firewire-only.
[07:14] <hatake_kakashi> stupendo44: blah, well that pretty much doesn't help.. maybe googling around?
[07:14] <somethingstupid> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:14] <hatake_kakashi> !pastebin
[07:14] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:14] <stupendo44> hatake_kakashi: working on it. Thought I'd come here for help
[07:14] <stupendo44> hatake_kakashi: do you know of any more specific irc rooms?
[07:14] <Fotinakis> !test
[07:14] <ubotu> Passed.
[07:14] <Fotinakis> lol
[07:15] <hatake_kakashi> stupendo44: try #ubuntu or ##linux
[07:15] <blarion> How does one get kaffine to play realmedia files?
[07:15] <stupendo44> hatake_kakashi: thanks. will do
[07:15] <hatake_kakashi> stupendo44: np
[07:15] <hatake_kakashi> blarion: probably with w32codecs
[07:15] <somethingstupid> hatake_katashi: im sorry but its still not working
[07:15] <blarion> thanks
[07:15] <somethingstupid> unmet dependancies :(
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> somethingstupid: I didn't see the output, paste your output of the error onto pastebin
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> blarion: np
[07:16] <somethingstupid> wheres the paste bin?
[07:16] <somethingstupid> Reading package lists... Done
[07:16] <somethingstupid> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> !tell somethingstupid about pastebin
[07:16] <somethingstupid> amsn is already the newest version.
[07:16] <somethingstupid> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[07:16] <somethingstupid> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:16] <somethingstupid>   amsn: Depends: tcltls but it is not installable
[07:16] <somethingstupid> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:17] <somethingstupid> ermm that function didnt work about pastebin
[07:17] <somethingstupid> found it
[07:17] <somethingstupid> pastebin
[07:18] <somethingstupid> did u get it?
[07:19] <somethingstupid> Hey it installed
[07:19] <somethingstupid> thanks for all ur help so much
[07:19] <somethingstupid> :D
[07:19] <hatake_kakashi> hmm meh
[07:19] <somethingstupid> im a real noob
[07:20] <MeshGearFox> Oh, don;t feel bad. at least you got linux installed :P
[07:20] <somethingstupid> lol yea
[07:20] <somethingstupid> :D
[07:21] <MeshGearFox> I've yet to get beyond the "glower menacingly at disk until it either installs or combusts" stage.
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> MeshGearFox: been there, done that
[07:21] <MeshGearFox> Heh.
[07:23] <hatake_kakashi> MeshGearFox: my LCD monitor is a piece of sh*t, I had to enable vga=771 at boot to make it work. Even though its for laptops, I had to enable it for desktop. I've also gone through a fair bit of reinstall too just by messing around too much
[07:29] <blarion> Hey, I installed w32codecs, but it still did not work.
[07:30] <hatake_kakashi> blarion: hmm, try totem then
[07:30] <blarion> okay.
[07:37] <MeshGearFox> Hm. Half-tempted to try installing again, although I probably SHOULD wait until I get a response on the forum. I really expect that that stupid FAt32 restoration partition is to blame.
[07:39] <Captainbraille> How do I play .mov files with Kaffeine using the Gstreamer Engine?
[07:57] <MarcC> is there a keyboard shortcut for "minimize all"?
[08:04] <SmrtJustin> I just installed console-terminus and I was wondering how I could get konsole/kde to notice the font so I can use it in konsole
[08:08] <MarcC> SmrtJustin, Konsole -> Settings -> Font -> Select?
[08:09] <SmrtJustin> MarcC: yeah, but it doesn't show up in there
[08:10] <Captainbraille> How do I play .mov files with Kaffeine using the GStreamer Engine?
[08:16] <MarcC> SmrtJustin: Yeah, it puts them in /usr/share/consolefonts...not sure if you can just copy straight to your .fonts folder or what. I'm using Consolas.
[08:18] <SmrtJustin> MarcC: I don't see terminus in there, unless the ter-* ones are it
[08:18] <MarcC> SmrtJustin: I think those are it
[08:18] <SmrtJustin> why doesn't konsole see those?
[08:18] <MarcC> good question.
[08:18] <SmrtJustin> lol
[08:19] <MarcC> Did someone tell you they were using terminus for Konsole specifically, or for the general console?
[08:19] <SmrtJustin> FYI, I'm a Kubuntu/Ubuntu n00b, I'm coming from gentoo
[08:20] <SmrtJustin> no one told me about it, I just used it in gentoo with rxvt, so I kind of wanted now with konsole
[08:20] <SmrtJustin> wanted it*
[08:23] <MarcC> hm...maybe I found the answer, SmrtJustin: http://forum.ubuntu.cz/viewtopic.php?pid=305
[08:23] <MarcC> just one problem ;)
[08:24] <SmrtJustin> ...its not in English
[08:25] <MarcC> ding ding ding
[08:25] <MarcC> I guess you could install rxvt?
[08:25] <SmrtJustin> I could...
[08:29] <SmrtJustin> I can't believe that konsole/kde won't let me use my own font lol
[08:31] <SmrtJustin> well, I think I'm going to go to bed, tomorrow's problem I guess
[08:31] <SmrtJustin> thanks MarcC
[08:31] <MarcC> no problem, I was there for you ;)
[08:32] <SmrtJustin> lol, you were
[08:34] <sniff> Psi-Jack: hey are you around today man?#
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. Just got done packaging up the Lexmark Z25/35, Z55, Z65, and Z600-series printer drivers into Ubuntu packages. :D
[08:36] <MeshGearFox> Okay.
[08:36] <MeshGearFox> I got Kubuntu to install.
[08:37] <MeshGearFox> But something is really weirding me out, here. See, the at time, when it didn't work, I got a boot screen that looked a lot like knoppix's. down to the weird tearing from being out of my Monitor's refresh rate range.
[08:37] <MeshGearFox> But when I got it working, I got an entirely different boot screen.
[08:39] <sniff> Psi-Jack: wow you mean some lexmark can work with linux
[08:39] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i heard most people said to forget it
[08:39] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Yes.
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> My Z600 works fine. ;)
[08:40] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i wanted to tell you i got that gpg thing working
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Cool
[08:40] <sniff> Psi-Jack: but also, is it really necessary to edit all those files, maybe just installing pinentry would have been enough?
[08:40] <sniff> so thanks a bunch for all your help yesterday
[08:41] <sniff> i'm still trying to get pkgsrc to ./bootstrap hmm
[08:44] <Captainbraille> Hi, how do I get mov files to play in Kaffeine using the GStreamer engine? The audio works, but the window it's in is black, it's not playing video
[08:47] <sniff> Captainbraille: i got the same problem
[08:47] <Captainbraille> sniff: yeah, just the audio right?
[08:48] <Captainbraille> I finally got wmv files to work, lol, I had some that would work and some that wouldn't, now it looks like they are all working
[08:48] <sniff> Captainbraille: i got that prob too
[08:49] <sniff> Captainbraille: i get the video to play, but instead of getting a picture i get some kaffeine animation that fits the sound
[08:49] <sniff> i can't play wmv - what did you do to fix that?
[08:49] <Captainbraille> sniff: just a sec, let me see if I can find the package name
[08:50] <sniff> cheers
[08:53] <Captainbraille> okay, the last package I installed was 'gstreamer0.8-pitfdll'   after I did that it worked
[08:54] <Captainbraille> sniff: do you have that one?
[08:54] <sniff> no
[08:54] <sniff> Captainbraille: i'm just installing it!
[08:54] <sniff> hey about your problem
[08:54] <sniff> in kaffeine
[08:54] <Captainbraille> yes?
[08:55] <sniff> Captainbraille: click on SETTINGS->PLAYER ENGINE   and select Kaffeine. Try it..
[08:56] <Captainbraille> sniff: still only audio =\
[08:57] <sniff> mmm
[08:57] <sniff> i got this other weird problem
[08:57] <sniff> that the only engine that will woerk at all for me is the kaffeine one
[08:57] <sniff> ah idea
[08:57] <sniff> try installing xine-ui
[09:00] <Captainbraille> I wonder why it doesn't work?
[09:00] <Captainbraille> any luck sniff?
[09:00] <sniff> no
[09:00] <sniff> well
[09:00] <sniff> something start working yesterday after installing
[09:00] <sniff> but wmv still doens't work
[09:01] <Captainbraille> hmm, I had to restart
[09:03] <ricky_ds> hi, no matter in which USB port I plug my USB-stick, the konqueror opens 2 tabs with both the text: There was an error when loading media:/sdc1 (or sdb1 or sda1 etc...) / file or folder media:/sdc1 does not exist. How can I debug this problem and fix it?
[09:17] <airfoil> Hi all.. Can someone help a new user out..  I am using a 6th generation Atheros card, it's one of the newest models, but I don't know how to go about getting it working in Kubuntu..  I need to use something called madwifi right?  Can anyone point me in the right direction please :)
[09:32] <DevGet> Is there any howto of openpgp in kubuntu?
[09:33] <airfoil> geez.. how the hell do I get the kernel source.. I did an apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r` but it says that version doesnt exist
[09:35] <airfoil> this is wack
[09:35] <Psi-Jack> airfoil: You expect to get help with that kind of bad attitude/language? :(
[09:35] <sniff> Psi-Jack: what was he doing?
 geez.. how the hell do I get the kernel source.. I did an apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r` but it says that version doesnt exist
[09:36] <Captainbraille> Hi Psi-Jack mind if I ask ya a quick question?
[09:36] <Psi-Jack> Captainbraille: Sure. Whatcha need?
[09:37] <Captainbraille> Psi-Jack, thanks =) I'm trying to get .mov files to play in Kaffeine using the GStreamer engine. The audio works, but the window it's in is the backgrounf black, it's not playing video. Anything I can try?
[09:38] <sniff> Psi-Jack: me too!
[09:38] <Psi-Jack> Captainbraille: I... Don't support gstreamer, myself. :/
[09:38] <Captainbraille> Psi-Jack: What do you prefer? And why =)
[09:38] <Psi-Jack> gstreamer is a great idea, but the devs implemented it all wrong, and gnome-ish, using ... *shiver* gconf.
[09:39] <Captainbraille> lol =) Whats more "kdeish" then?
[09:39] <Psi-Jack> Captainbraille: The xine engine, is what I use. But, I don't know where, if I even have any, I might have a .mov to play with to test it out and get it working.
[09:39] <sniff> i got a porn movie i can lend you
[09:40] <Psi-Jack> Sure. Send it here.
[09:40] <Captainbraille> lol sniff
[09:40] <sniff> :D
[09:40] <sniff> i find they're the best to test with
[09:40] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[09:40] <Captainbraille> oh my
[09:40] <Captainbraille> haha
[09:40] <su> you know.... check that the skin tones are represented correctly etc ;)
[09:41] <Captainbraille> yut yut yut
[09:41] <Captainbraille> Psi-Jack, why is Xine so good?
[09:42] <Psi-Jack> Captainbraille: Because it works, and works well.
[09:42] <sniff> i say it's good because gstreamer won't even begin to work on my system
[09:42] <Psi-Jack> And no gnome dependancies. It's all by itself, using all the libs directly. libtheora, for example.
[09:42] <Captainbraille> Do you need to install all different codec packages?
[09:43] <Psi-Jack> Heh codec package?
[09:43] <sniff> Psi-Jack: so how can i get xine to play wmv? I mean do you happen to know the package i need off the top of your head?
[09:43] <Psi-Jack> As I said, xine uses the libraries already provided for Linux. Instead of using a wrapper around them individually like gstreamer does.
[09:44] <Captainbraille> Psi-jack: someone told me to get codec packages
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> sniff: w32codecs package from Seveas
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> !seveas
[09:44] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:44] <sniff> but it's in here!
[09:44] <sniff> :(
[09:44] <sniff> i will reinstall
[09:44] <Captainbraille> okay
[09:45] <sniff> any ideas for a WSIWYG web authoring program? Nvu is too biggy
[09:45] <sniff> buggy
[09:45] <Psi-Jack> Captainbraille: Linux has no "codec packages" like they do for Windows. There are easy installers to do that, but that's not a codec package. That's just a front-end.
[09:45] <Psi-Jack> Quanta Plus?
[09:45] <sniff> it doesn't seem to be wsiwyg
[09:45] <sniff> have to manually edit the code and then preview it
[09:46] <Captainbraille> ohh okay that makes sense
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> Heh, it does have a visual editor.
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> Sorta..
[09:46] <sniff> ah? really?
[09:47] <Psi-Jack> A REALLY expensive route would be to get VMWare ($300), Windows 2000/XP ($100-$200), and Macromedia (Adobe) Dreamweaver 8 ($300)
[09:47] <sniff> i got vmware and dreamweaver
[09:47] <sniff> god i love dreamweaver 8
[09:47] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[09:47] <sniff> but now i've converted
[09:47] <sniff> Psi-Jack:
[09:48] <sniff> i got a really good question for you
[09:48] <Psi-Jack> That's what I use, myself. I've never seen any usable, worthwhile wysiwyg html composer for *nix
[09:48] <sniff> me too!
[09:49] <Psi-Jack> Question
[09:49] <Psi-Jack> ?
[09:49] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i have a large download (95mb) but it is split in to sever  archives of 5megs each. What must i do to extract them?
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> Ummm.,
[09:51] <Psi-Jack> Good question! I can't answer that without knowing more about how it was split. :p
[09:51] <Captainbraille> Psi-Jack: should I remove the packages for gstreamer then?
[09:51] <Psi-Jack> Captainbraille: Using Adept?
[09:51] <Captainbraille> Yes with adept
[09:51] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i want to avoid rebooting into windows to do it (just as simple as extracting a single file in windows)
[09:52] <Psi-Jack> Well, use it. Filter out gstreamer and associated plugins for it. heh
[09:52] <Captainbraille> what would be easier? =\
[09:52] <Psi-Jack> That was the easy route. :p
[09:53] <Captainbraille> lol--  I installed kaffeine-xine but am still not getting video, just green screen
[09:54] <sniff> if i use gstreamer engine in kaffeine it give me: No URI handler implemented for "system:/media/sda1/DVDs/
[09:54] <sniff> and then the name of my porn vid
[09:55] <sniff> and can u believe it!???? somehow my w32codecs package became uninstalled!
[09:59] <sniff> also i am so impressed with kde 3.5, it's amazing quick. Even my internet browsing is about 5x faster! It's actually quicker browsing the internet with Konqueror than firefox 1.5. Before this update though web browsing in linux was slow, i don't know why but considerably slower than windows
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: getting rid of un-necesary modules, etc can help
[10:01] <sniff> hatake_kakashi: even on vanilla install of kubuntu it was kinda like being on dialup but i got 2mbit adsl here
[10:01] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: like I said, there are things that you need to disable, there are firefox tweak guides, and KDE tweaks availabe
[10:02] <sniff> i think it's better if they tweak it before they give it to a n00b like me
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: no if they do that, it may not work with certain computers
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> optimisation comes at a cost of being arch, etc specific
[10:03] <sniff> is there a wiki on kde optimization?
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> I remember there was
[10:05] <B1zz> hmmm vmware channel dead
[10:05] <B1zz> see if anyone here knows
[10:05] <B1zz> any one know if i can run OS X on VMware on a pc?
[10:05] <brydenn> hey
[10:05] <brydenn> where is the linux source directory at in Ubuntu?
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> linux source directory? for what?
[10:06] <jungledog> for the kernel
[10:06] <brydenn> sure
[10:06] <brydenn> Linux source directory [/usr/src/linux] :    (example)
[10:07] <brydenn> ?
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> yeah its usually around there for the kernel
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> /usr/src
[10:08] <sniff> alright, i'm going to reboot into windows just so I can decompress a downloaded zip
[10:09] <jungledog> huh?
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: you don't have to
[10:09] <jungledog> can't you install unzip or use file-roller?
[10:09] <sniff> hatake_kakashi: yeah i do,.... it's the only way
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: no you don't
[10:09] <sniff> it's a 95mb file split up in to about 10 files
[10:09] <sniff> no, please, go one without me......... i'll be ok
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> unzip should be able to handle it
[10:09] <sniff> * sniff dies
[10:10] <sniff> ark can't
[10:10] <hatake_kakashi> and what about fileroller?
[10:10] <sniff> i mean
[10:10] <sniff> you can't even get Ark to split files that you compress after every 250 mb for examoke
[10:10] <sniff> example
[10:11] <hatake_kakashi> you can do it manually
[10:12] <jungledog> can you concatentate the files?   ie, 'cat file1.zip file2.zip fileN.zip > fileAll.zip'
[10:12] <sniff> is there a better gui program for kde? ark is rubbish and buggy
[10:14] <hatake_kakashi> file-roller.. heh, that's for gnome but you can still use it
[10:14] <sniff> is it good?
[10:14] <sniff> to be honest a zip program is the least of my concerns, just so long as it works. Which is some that ark usually chooses not to do
[10:15] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: no idea but that's an alternative for GUI frontend
[10:15] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: I mostly use CLI based apps heh
[10:15] <sniff> yeah but you're pro
[10:15] <sniff> i'm a windows convert, it's gonna take time to ween me off gui
[10:15] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: btw if all else fails, you can install win32 apps on linux and run them through wine
[10:16] <sniff> ahhh
[10:16] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: lol, by no definitions I'm a pro.
[10:16] <sniff> you know if winrar works like this?
[10:16] <hatake_kakashi> dunno, it may
[10:16] <sniff> it's not realy worth me install vmware, windows and winrar just to do this
[10:16] <hatake_kakashi> though there is rar for linux, console only though
[10:17] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[10:17] <hatake_kakashi> well give wine a try
[10:20] <Psi-Jack> Well/.
[10:21] <Psi-Jack> My kaffeine is streaming realvideo just fine..
[10:24] <Cyorxamp> I don't suppose theres a 'Ship-It' free cd's thing for Kubuntu is there?
[10:26] <sniff> !sources.list
[10:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:27] <sniff> !easysource
[10:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:30] <_b> in kde system guard process table there are 2 colums i dont understand Nice And VmRss
[10:31] <Psi-Jack> _b: Nice is the nicelevel. Similar to Windows NT's Priority. The higher the number, the nicer it is (less prioritized.)
[10:31] <Psi-Jack> VmRss is the Virtual Memory usage
[10:32] <_b> thx, what are the the priorty range ?
[10:32] <_b> i got 0 on all but one that has -10
[10:32] <Psi-Jack> First of all, learn how to properly spell "thanks." "thx", to me, is just rude, and lazy.
[10:33] <_b> it is ? sorry then
[10:33] <_b> shorten words is great i think
[10:34] <sniff> any1 tell me  what i must type in the terminal to extract a multi-zip file archive?
[10:34] <Psi-Jack> Actually, VmRss is Resident Set Size, while Size is code+data+stack and all.
[10:35] <Psi-Jack> _b: Wl i shl shrtn wrds nw jst 4 u.
[10:35] <_b> lol !
[10:35] <Psi-Jack> Not pretty, is it?
[10:36] <sniff> k np
[10:36] <sniff> innit
[10:36] <_b> a little compression is god not big leave artefacts !
[10:36] <Psi-Jack> jungledog: As for your PM. I consider gratitude to be as non-lazy as I am to help someone, as they should be to at LEAST properly give a good thanks.
[10:37] <Psi-Jack> _b: Now, the limit? Generally speaking -20 is highest priority, 20 is lowest. -99 tends to be realtime.
[10:39] <_b> thanks this was very usefull information for me
[10:39] <Psi-Jack> _b: Everyone seems to come under this wierd understanding, that "irc shorthand" is a good thing. You know what that does, however? For one, it makes people tend to spell horribly, because they don't ever really do so.
[10:41] <_b> You got a point there, bad spelling has leaked out to press and other public places you tend to se it everywhere
[10:41] <Hysty> allo all
[10:42] <Psi-Jack> Wow.
[10:42] <Psi-Jack> My artsd started consuming 187mb RAM. :/
[10:42] <sniff> wot is baad speling?
[10:44] <Gonza_Eire> hi
[10:44] <Gonza_Eire> I need some help regarding Qt
[10:45] <Psi-Jack> Then.. Ask...
[10:45] <sniff> quick time?
[10:45] <Gonza_Eire> Qt libraries
[10:45] <sniff> :(
[10:45] <Gonza_Eire> trying to install some ipod tool from sourceforge
[10:45] <Gonza_Eire> guipod
[10:45] <Gonza_Eire> it requires Qt 3.0.2 or higher
[10:46] <Psi-Jack> You know, amaroK has really good iPod support, I hear? :)
[10:46] <sniff> don't you need cross over office to get qt working?
[10:46] <sniff> Psi-Jack: anyway i thought he could have been talking about the qt3 libraries
[10:47] <Gonza_Eire> hmm... I haven't heard about it.. I will have a look, I don't want to compile other library versions than ubuntu
[10:47] <Gonza_Eire> yes, sniff , qt3 libraries
[10:47] <Psi-Jack> sniff: He is.
[10:47] <Psi-Jack> Gonza_Eire: Kubuntu comes standard with Qt 3.3.4
[10:48] <sniff> ah they are one and the same?
[10:48] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Qt != QuickTime, no.
[10:48] <sniff> :/
[10:48] <sniff> * now sniff looks blank
[10:48] <Gonza_Eire> well, that's my fault... i have to point the configure to the right place
[10:48] <Psi-Jack> KDE uses libqt
[10:49] <sniff> Psi-Jack: so are you saying that kde is based on quicktime?
[10:49] <Gonza_Eire> I knew that....but not sure which version using at the3 moment.. I don't knoe how to retrieve the versio number, which command
[10:49] <Psi-Jack> sniff: When did I say such a thing? No.
[10:49] <Gonza_Eire> I know that is an essencial/basic question..sorry
[10:49] <Psi-Jack> Qt != QuickTime!
[10:50] <Psi-Jack> Gonza_Eire: dpkg -s libqt3-mt
[10:51] <Ryugi> hello
[10:51] <Ryugi> hello
[10:51] <Gonza_Eire> yes..properly installed.. right
[10:52] <Psi-Jack> Gonza_Eire: If you installed Kubuntu, not as a server, then most likely it is. It's definatelly there, if you have KDE.
[10:52] <mth`MAW> Hi guys, I do have a VERY strange problem and will try to give my very best to explain it in a prooper way in english;)
[10:52] <Ryugi> if i install kubuntu over ubuntu. will it just add kde to ubuntu
[10:53] <Psi-Jack> Ryugi: Kubuntu and Ubuntu share the same stuff. Kubuntu is just pre-instaleld with KDE. You can actually techically get Kubuntu under Ubuntu simply by installing the kubuntu-desktop package.
[10:53] <Ryugi> ok
[10:53] <Psi-Jack> As for installing over it? Don't. Pure and simple.
[10:53] <Ryugi> how do i install the kubuntu-desktop package
[10:54] <mth`MAW> I had a running Kubuntu system on my thinkpad here... I updated it from hoary to breezy everything worked fine... this year I am writing my exam, so I decided to have a new, clean OS on my Computer
[10:54] <Psi-Jack> Ryugi: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:54] <Psi-Jack> Ryugi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:54] <Gonza_Eire> Psi-Jack: yes. Everything is properly up and working. I should point the configure to the right place to properly compile the app
[10:54] <mth`MAW> So I installed the breezy on my thinkpad but let the home partition untauched
[10:54] <mth`MAW> untouched
[10:54] <mth`MAW> I ment
[10:54] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: bewarned that it may take over your icons for gnome, such as the apps list
[10:55] <Ryugi> what you mean take over my icons
[10:55] <Ryugi> you mean replace my gnomeicons for the same apps
[10:56] <mth`MAW> so the think KNOW is, that I do not have sound anymore! BUT I do get an "beep" vie Line-out from yakuake, but no sounds at all... no xmms , no amarok, no sysstem sound.... BUT if I suspend to disc one time and wake it up... sound works well in 99%
[10:56] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: no, eg, you get KDE apps on Gnome, hang on I'll show you a screenie
[10:56] <mth`MAW> Does anybody ha ANY Suggestion?
[10:56] <sniff> mth`MAW: wipe linux and use windows
[10:57] <mth`MAW> wtf?
[10:57] <mth`MAW> Kidding me?
[10:57] <sniff> mth`MAW: i gotta switch to windows just to unpack a zip file
[10:57] <mth`MAW> What is this here Childrenplaygorund?
[10:57] <mth`MAW> Have fun sniff
[10:57] <mth`MAW> any serious suggestions?!
[10:57] <_b> xmms is buggy i think locked many times the little i use it
[10:58] <mth`MAW> yeah... but I even have no systemsounds
[10:58] <sniff> mth`MAW: try switching to the OSS mixer
[10:58] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Excuse me?
[10:58] <mth`MAW> Does not work sniff
[10:58] <Psi-Jack>  <sniff> mth`MAW: wipe linux and use windows
[10:58] <sniff> mmm
[10:58] <mth`MAW> Do not feed the troll
[10:58] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I oughta just smack you not!
[10:59] <Psi-Jack> now
[10:59] <sniff> mth`MAW: disble acpi
[10:59] <sniff> OUCH! PLEASE STOP!! I;M SO SORRY!!
[10:59] <sniff> mummy...
[10:59] <mth`MAW> mhm, okay... have not tried that, but is that an reason, why it works... after a suspend?
[11:00] <mth`MAW> jeah, could be...
[11:00] <mth`MAW> k wait a minute
[11:00] <sniff> mth`MAW: could be, if it works when you disable the acpi you may need to recompile the acpi module
[11:00] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I won't /ever. want to here those two words, or read them from your input, "install", and "windows" in the same sentence in reference like you put it. :p
[11:00] <sniff> edit the kernel line grub and add "noacpi"
[11:00] <mth`MAW> thx
[11:01] <sniff> well i am trying to help aren't i?
[11:01] <Psi-Jack> Heh. you were then.. Yes.,
[11:01] <sniff> but i didn't make an error of judgement and for this i apologise
[11:01] <sniff> apologize
[11:01] <sniff> Psi-Jack: is it z or s?
[11:01] <Ryugi> so i guess subuntu is ubuntu for xfce users?
[11:02] <Psi-Jack> kdict? :)
[11:02] <sniff> yeah but don't it depend if you're a yank or a tommy?
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: xubuntu
[11:03] <Psi-Jack> Call me a yank again, and I will be yanking something, not very nicely. ;)
[11:03] <sniff> i mean what if you're an aussy, you'd be falling between two stools and writing something like "apologisze"
[11:03] <sniff> oops
[11:03] <sniff> hatake_kakashi:  is auz
[11:04] <Ryugi> yeah imeant xubuntu
[11:04] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8808
[11:04] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: Australians mostly follow British spelling standards
[11:05] <Ryugi> hatake_kakashi:whats wrong with the pic
[11:05] <sniff> hatake_kakashi: so how do you spell a word like "apologisze"?
[11:05] <sniff> is it "z" or "s"?
[11:05] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: see the app got mostly KDE applications on it?
[11:05] <hatake_kakashi> sniff: just apologise will do imo
[11:06] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Sorry, if I sounded mean, BTW. :)
[11:06] <sniff> i knew i made a mistake when i left england
[11:06] <Ryugi> so the gnome applications where icked out
[11:06] <Psi-Jack> sniff: But, in one point, I do actually not like being called a "yank."
[11:06] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: under System tools, you get Adept instead of Synaptic, etc
[11:06] <sniff> no, no, you were well within you're rights
[11:06] <mth`MAW> I do not hear anything with noacpi
[11:06] <mth`MAW> either
[11:06] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: more or less
[11:06] <sniff> and i was over-stepping the margin
[11:06] <Ryugi> ok
[11:07] <Ryugi> well gnome is fast
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: though you can add it in manually
[11:07] <Psi-Jack> My feet are fast too.
[11:07] <Ryugi> so i'l stick with gnome
[11:07] <mth`MAW> sniff: any other idea?
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> yeah Gnome to some aspects are faster than Gnome, but the fastest is console :)
[11:07] <Psi-Jack> So I'll remain on my feet, too. :)
[11:07] <Ryugi> is possible to install some kde appswithout installing the whole of kde
[11:07] <sniff> Psi-Jack:  well you're a yank and i'm a  stiff-lipped tea-sipping blighter
[11:07] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: That's original. Gnome faster than Gnome. :)
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> Ryugi: depends, but yeah
[11:07] <sniff> ha!
[11:08] <Ryugi> if i wantto instal kdevelop
[11:08] <Ryugi> is it possible
[11:08] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: meh, I made a mistake, so sue me :)
[11:08] <Psi-Jack> Ryugi: Yes. But you'll need parts of kde. Use your tools. Synaptic, and/or Adept.
[11:08] <sniff> mth`MAW: actually i'm afraid i'm out. I had a problem with sound and disabling acpi made it ok. So after i recompiled the kernel module
[11:08] <hatake_kakashi> let me rephrase.. Gnoome to some apects are faster than KDE, but the fastest is still console (aka CLI)
[11:09] <sniff> mth`MAW: what sound card u using?
[11:09] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: As you wish! I'm suing you for defacement of Gnome property, with penalties up to as little as $650,000, up to $6mil.
[11:09] <mth`MAW> To be honest? I have no idea... It is the buil in in thinkpad R50
[11:09] <sniff> ahh
[11:09] <sniff> laptop
[11:09] <mth`MAW> rigth
[11:09] <sniff> thinkpad is ibm right?
[11:09] <mth`MAW> right, it worked!
[11:09] <mth`MAW> right
[11:09] <mth`MAW> IBM
[11:10] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: Gnoome? That some new form of doom? :)
[11:10] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: lol
[11:10] <Ryugi> does gnome have any development tools like kdevelop
[11:10] <mth`MAW> It is soooo weired.
[11:10] <sniff> well i heard that ibm comps work the best with linux
[11:10] <mth`MAW> I too... Thats why a bought one...
[11:10] <mth`MAW> AND it worked welll...
[11:10] <mth`MAW> but right know just after an supsend to disk
[11:10] <sniff> it was working?
[11:10] <mth`MAW> yes!
[11:11] <sniff> so after suspeding it is broken?
[11:12] <Ryugi> i just installed ubuntu
[11:12] <Ryugi> so i am going to use irc on ubuntu now
[11:12] <mth`MAW> no
[11:12] <mth`MAW> once again:
[11:12] <mth`MAW> I had an working installation hoary -> breezy
[11:13] <mth`MAW> worked fine for my
[11:13] <sniff> uh-huh
[11:13] <mth`MAW> BUT I have my exams this year, so I decided to work with an clean OS
[11:13] <sniff> and now the audio works before hibernate?
[11:13] <mth`MAW> I installed breezy on the laptop but have not touched /home
[11:13] <mth`MAW> know I do not have sound
[11:14] <mth`MAW> just in yakuakwe, I do get a "beep" via line-out
[11:14] <mth`MAW> AND after an supsend to disk, I have normal sound
[11:14] <sniff> is your comp model number: 182977M
[11:14] <mth`MAW> ?!
[11:15] <Ryugi> i am back in ubuntu
[11:15] <mth`MAW> It says 1829 on the a
[11:15] <mth`MAW> back
[11:15] <mth`MAW> but not 77M
[11:15] <sniff> you have Intel 810 for sound i think
[11:16] <mth`MAW> could be ;)
[11:16] <mth`MAW> I have no idea about hardware :(
[11:16] <mth`MAW> sorry,
[11:17] <mth`MAW> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:17] <Cyorxamp> I don't suppose theres a 'Ship-It' free cd's thing for Kubuntu is there?
[11:17] <mth`MAW> lspci says thar
[11:17] <mth`MAW> taht
[11:17] <mth`MAW> that
[11:19] <sniff> mth`MAW: well it just seems like an acpi problem
[11:19] <sniff> mth`MAW: i been looking on the net but don't see any similar experience
[11:19] <sniff> mth`MAW: but i did just read, the intel 810 is a bitch to get working
[11:20] <mth`MAW> To be honest I think it has something to do with some config in my /home
[11:20] <sniff> mth`MAW: wow, like what is wrong with it?
[11:21] <mth`MAW> The thing is: amarok for ex. looks like it is playing, it I press the play button
[11:21] <mth`MAW> But I just here no sound...
[11:21] <mth`MAW> xmms, to
[11:21] <sniff> ahhhh
[11:21] <sniff> i think i'got the same
[11:21] <mth`MAW> really?
[11:21] <sniff> yeah
[11:21] <sniff> on my sony
[11:21] <mth`MAW> and?
[11:21] <sniff> i dunno if it is the same
[11:21] <mth`MAW> You did what?
[11:21] <sniff> open up kmix
[11:22] <mth`MAW> jep
[11:22] <mth`MAW> ok
[11:22] <sniff> so you can see all the channels
[11:22] <mth`MAW> jep
[11:22] <mth`MAW> all loud an on
[11:22] <sniff> the third one along under the "output" needs to have a birght green dot
[11:23] <sniff> my one is labelled front
[11:23] <mth`MAW> master?
[11:23] <sniff> er
[11:23] <sniff> er
[11:23] <mth`MAW> Everything IS loud an GREEN
[11:23] <mth`MAW> so everything IS on
[11:23] <mth`MAW> no mute
[11:23] <sniff> is there one labelled headphones?
[11:23] <mth`MAW> jep
[11:23] <mth`MAW> on
[11:23] <mth`MAW> an loud
[11:23] <sniff> and one labelled front?
[11:24] <mth`MAW> no
[11:24] <mth`MAW> master
[11:24] <mth`MAW> master mono
[11:24] <mth`MAW> headphone
[11:24] <mth`MAW> pcm
[11:24] <mth`MAW> on the tab output
[11:24] <sniff> mmm
[11:24] <sniff> gay
[11:24] <mth`MAW> he eh
[11:24] <mth`MAW> you are german?
[11:25] <sniff> i discovered with mine that i had to enable "front" and disable "headphones" and then play with the PCM level
[11:25] <sniff> ha no i'm not!
[11:25] <mth`MAW> k
[11:25] <mth`MAW> sonds like that
[11:25] <sniff> but mine is an intel chipset too
[11:26] <sniff> you sure you got the mp3 plugins installed?
[11:26] <mth`MAW> I disabled headphone nothing works
[11:26] <sniff> (sorry)
[11:26] <mth`MAW> lol
[11:26] <mth`MAW> I am
[11:26] <mth`MAW> ;)
[11:26] <mth`MAW> No I havent... But after suspending it gets it its own ;)
[11:30] <mth`MAW> weired eh?!
[11:30] <sniff> mth`MAW: i been reading a lot on the net
[11:31] <sniff> the only thing i can suggest is what you've already tried
[11:31] <sniff> disable acpi in the kernel before booting
[11:31] <sniff> or try switching to the oss mixer
[11:31] <mth`MAW> Thats what I have done (exapt that acpi diabling)
[11:31] <sniff> and also make sure correct libs are loaded for what you wanna play
[11:31] <mth`MAW> They are!
[11:31] <sniff> so just for the hell of it disable acpi
[11:32] <mth`MAW> I have
[11:32] <sniff> i know a laptop is gay without acpi
[11:32] <mth`MAW> right now!
[11:32] <mth`MAW> right now!
[11:32] <mth`MAW> I have
[11:32] <sniff> that means you can't hibernate right?
[11:32] <mth`MAW> I guess
[11:32] <mth`MAW> I try
[11:34] <Ryugi> is there any application in gnome that is like kdevelop
[11:34] <mth`MAW> weired
[11:35] <mth`MAW> it suspended
[11:35] <mth`MAW> with noacpi as kernel parameter
[11:35] <sniff> what did you do to disable acpi?
[11:36] <mth`MAW> GRUB - pressed "e" - seleceted kernerl line - pressed "e" - wrote noacpi at the end - pressed "b"
[11:36] <sniff> mm
[11:36] <sniff> yeah right
[11:36] <mth`MAW> looks good or?
[11:37] <sniff> damn it man i dunno
[11:37] <sniff> i can't help
[11:37] <mth`MAW> but thanks for your time....
[11:37] <mth`MAW> :)
[11:37] <sniff> Psi-Jack:   , hatake_kakashi  and   vge  have always been very helpful for me
[11:37] <mth`MAW> I have to go buy some food....
[11:37] <sniff> try asking them
[11:37] <sniff> ok, welcome
[11:37] <mth`MAW> Okay... I will after buying thanks a lot
[11:37] <sniff> oh!
[11:37] <mth`MAW> oh?
[11:38] <sniff> Crimsun is the one to see about sound
[11:38] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, finally got my gpg key added to the REVU, so now uploading lexmark printer driver packages for REVU. :D
[11:38] <mth`MAW> btw: rigth know I have sound :)
[11:38] <mth`MAW> after suspending
[11:38] <sniff> because you suspended?
[11:38] <mth`MAW> jep
[11:39] <sniff> that's really weird
[11:39] <sniff> i mean what is it that changes after suspending?
[11:39] <mth`MAW> I do not know if it is "because" but it is after
[11:39] <mth`MAW> I have NO Idea
[11:39] <mth`MAW> NO No NO idea
[11:39] <mth`MAW> .)
[11:39] <sniff> by it's very definition the data in ram is written exactly as it is to hdd
[11:39] <sniff> so nothing should really change
[11:39] <mth`MAW> right
[11:39] <mth`MAW> jep
[11:39] <sniff> maybe there is some log or something to look @
[11:40] <sniff> Psi-Jack: sorry
[11:40] <sniff> at
[11:40] <mth`MAW> so the prob is somewhere, we havent looked until now
[11:40] <mth`MAW> :)
[11:40] <sniff> a clean install?
[11:40] <sniff> is  a long shot
[11:40] <mth`MAW> Jep instead of /home
[11:41] <mth`MAW> Everything is new but not /home
[11:41] <sniff> you are german aren;t you
[11:41] <sniff> j=y
[11:41] <mth`MAW> jeppa
[11:41] <mth`MAW> :)
[11:41] <mth`MAW> yeppa
[11:41] <mth`MAW> Soory ;)
[11:41] <sniff> hehe
[11:41] <sniff> is it true that linux is more popular that windows in germany?
[11:42] <mth`MAW> LOL
[11:42] <mth`MAW> no
[11:42] <mth`MAW> Where are they telleing that?
[11:42] <mth`MAW> telling
[11:42] <sniff> what about that SuSe is a very popular alternative?
[11:42] <sniff> some crap i read on the net
[11:42] <sniff> that suse, is desktop choice
[11:43] <mth`MAW> yeah, but not that popular than windows
[11:43] <sniff> mmm
[11:43] <morrow> suse is just more popular than redhat :)
[11:43] <sniff> fine that's all my questions!
[11:43] <morrow> but overall its still a normal windows world in Germany
[11:43] <kwewu14> how do i use kubuntu dapper?
[11:43] <sniff> kwe
[11:43] <mth`MAW> not everywhere morrow
[11:44] <mth`MAW> munich forexaple
[11:44] <sniff> kwewu14: change your souces.list to have dapper writtien instead of brezzy
[11:44] <morrow> munich tries but can't get to results
[11:44] <mth`MAW> but they wanna
[11:44] <kwewu14> sniff: that didn't work for kde 3.5.1
[11:44] <sniff> i did a dapper upgrade
[11:44] <mth`MAW> that is a sign ;)
[11:44] <Psi-Jack> kwewu14: Be aware, Dapper is still beta. It's not considered stable.
[11:44] <morrow> mth`MAW: other cities already did a total switch to linux
[11:44] <kwewu14> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[11:44] <kwewu14> Psi-Jack: i don't care
[11:44] <sniff> i did the dapper upgrade
[11:44] <kwewu14> :P
[11:44] <morrow> but they don't go crieing to heise.de :)
[11:45] <sniff> and then wiped my computer :(
[11:45] <mth`MAW> :)
[11:45] <mth`MAW> so ...
[11:45] <mth`MAW> I have to go buy some food ....
[11:45] <kwewu14> i changed breezy in that line to dapper and nothing was found.
[11:45] <mth`MAW> see you later
[11:45] <kwewu14> i don't see anything on the wiki either
[11:45] <sniff> tcheuss
[11:45] <sniff> or seomtheing
[11:45] <mth`MAW> Tsch
[11:45] <mth`MAW> :)
[11:46] <sniff> :)
[11:46] <morrow> "ade" where i live:)
[11:46] <sniff> great stuff
[11:46] <Psi-Jack> Coolbeans. All my lexmark submissions for Dapper are uploaded and ready for REVU.
[11:46] <morrow> Psi-Jack: lexmark?
[11:46] <morrow> E232? :)
[11:46] <Psi-Jack> Lexmark printer drivers for the Z-series.
[11:46] <morrow> damn... :)
[11:46] <Psi-Jack> You have an E232?
[11:47] <JLiquorish> hi, is there anyway to have KDE and GNOME installed but without KDE apps in GNOME menus and vice versa?
[11:47] <morrow> recently bought the E232n with networkprinting device
[11:47] <morrow> works with the pcl6 and pxlmono, but not for big printouts like fotos
[11:47] <Psi-Jack> morrow: Is it supported in Linux or do you know?
[11:47] <kwewu14> dist-upgrade to dapper wants to remove all of my kde stuff
[11:47] <morrow> Psi-Jack: they even have a tux on their cover.. but they supply a commercial java based driver
[11:48] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[11:48] <morrow> the network printing server has a lpd port, which accepts pcl6
[11:48] <Psi-Jack> http://www.lexmark.com/uncomplicate/product/home/36/0,7044,239544855_240294668_279729188_en_0_6,00.html
[11:48] <sniff> Psi-Jack: could you paste your gpg signatur here please
[11:48] <sniff> ?
[11:49] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Umm..
[11:49] <sniff> i wanna see how long it is
[11:49] <morrow> Psi-Jack: yes thats the printer...
[11:49] <Psi-Jack> Like.. No? :)
[11:49] <sniff> why not?
[11:49] <morrow> it even tells me it has PS support :)
[11:49] <sniff> is it insecure to do so?
[11:49] <Psi-Jack> morrow: Do they have like a download for the linux driver?
[11:49] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Because that would be extreme flooding?
[11:49] <sniff> please email me or pastebin, would  much appreciate it
[11:50] <sniff> because my signature is a SHA1 hash and is really short
[11:50] <Psi-Jack> morrow: It's got PS support?
[11:50] <sniff> maybe yours is the same
[11:50] <inf3rno> hi all, how goes it? quick question hopefully. am new to ubuntu (using Kubuntu), and am trying to install the ati.com drivers by following the faq at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI -- i'm down to
[11:50] <Psi-Jack> sniff: I added my picture to my key. heh
[11:50] <kwewu14> Psi-Jack: are you using dapper with kubuntu?
[11:50] <morrow> Psi-Jack: it claims to have but did not work yet...
[11:50] <vge> ati is never short imho
[11:51] <JLiquorish> is there anyway to have KDE and GNOME installed but without KDE apps in GNOME menus and vice versa?
[11:51] <inf3rno> doing 'sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel' but i'm getting a message that the kernel headers aren't loaded -- any thoughts on what i'm missing? =/
[11:51] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Emailed.
[11:51] <morrow> http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=15:1:0:448:0:0&searchLang=en&os_group=Debian%20GNU&target=
[11:51] <morrow> there"s the debian driver...
[11:51] <Psi-Jack> kwewu14: No
[11:52] <sniff> Psi-Jack: wow cheers
[11:52] <Psi-Jack> morrow: Hmmm. Wow, Lexmark actually providing debianized drivers? Sheeeiit.
[11:52] <Psi-Jack> Piss-poorly done, though, I bet.
[11:53] <morrow> Psi-Jack: but still its only a java
[11:53] <Psi-Jack> Yick..
[11:53] <morrow> not a ppd or something usefull for servers
[11:53] <Psi-Jack> morrow: So they basically don't have a cups driver?
[11:53] <morrow> Psi-Jack: this driver somehow integrates into cups
[11:54] <sniff> Psi-Jack: ah similar
[11:55] <Psi-Jack> trappist: Was it you that I was going to help with some glitches to fix them.
[11:55] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[11:55] <sniff> how long must a train spamassassin for before it will auto-filter?
[11:56] <Psi-Jack> sniff: Possibly years. ;)
[11:56] <sniff> hmmm
[11:56] <sniff> why so bad
[11:56] <sniff> thunderbird was amazing
[11:56] <JLiquorish> is there anyway to have KDE and GNOME installed but without KDE apps in GNOME menus and vice versa?
[11:56] <Psi-Jack> But that's if you live in a deep dark cave, and get one email per month, if even that many.
[11:56] <sniff> spamassassin marks a message as being 90% probably spam, but still leaves it in my inbox
[12:00] <Psi-Jack> Man alive,
[12:00] <Psi-Jack> Using SpamAssassin with kmail is slow. heh
[12:02] <sniff> so how come
[12:03] <sniff> i have loads of people in Kontact, but they don't appear in select recipients in kmail
[12:03] <sniff> what is this all about?
[12:04] <Psi-Jack> Well, using bogofilter, it was really fast, setting what was spam, and what was not. Once I added SA to the blend, it got really slow marking good/bad emails.
[12:04] <sniff> Psi-Jack: i will try this, but at the moment i'm satisfied with the performance
[12:08] <inf3rno> Does anyone have any idea as to why my fonts in Kubuntu would have globally increased a size or two during an ATI driver install? I didn't change any font settings, but everything looks bigger... and ugly. =( Any thoughts?
[12:13] <inf3rno> hmm, would someone mind just sending me the default kubuntu font sizes under system-settings>fonts and i'll reset them?
[12:14] <sniff> i think it's 11 dejavu
[12:21] <danimo> did anyone try to run xgl off dapper?
[12:21] <HelpMe> hi
[12:22] <HelpMe> whove i can instal kde on ubuntu ?
[12:23] <HelpMe> anobady here
[12:23] <HelpMe> ?
[12:24] <danimo> HelpMe: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#installfromubuntu
[12:26] <JLiquorish> can anyone help with my problem of trying to install /home on its own partition
[12:35] <HelpMe> it didn`t work
[12:35] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get install kuubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <HelpMe> Reading package lists... Done
[12:35] <HelpMe> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:35] <HelpMe> E: Couldn't find package kuubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~#
[12:37] <zyth> kubuntu
[12:37] <zyth> not kuubuntu
[12:40] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:40] <HelpMe> Reading package lists... Done
[12:40] <HelpMe> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:40] <HelpMe> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[12:40] <HelpMe> zyth,  ?
[12:41] <Hype> HelpMe: have you added universe and multiverse to you apt sources ?
[12:41] <HelpMe> hype
[12:41] <HelpMe> no i just wanna to instal kde ?
[12:41] <HelpMe> whove i can do that
[12:41] <HelpMe> i read on site
[12:41] <HelpMe> but it didn`t work
[12:41] <Hype> and you are using ubuntu, right ?
[12:42] <HelpMe> hype yes
[12:42] <Hype> edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:43] <Hype> and add universe multiverse
[12:43] <Hype> like:
[12:43] <HelpMe> can u give comand to comand for me
[12:43] <Hype> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[12:43] <Hype> deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[12:43] <HelpMe> pleasye hype ?
[12:43] <Hype> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:44] <Hype> but replace dapper with breezy
[12:44] <HelpMe> oke
[12:44] <HelpMe> i do that then ?
[12:44] <Hype> then you do a "apt-get update"
[12:44] <Hype> and a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~# sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:45] <HelpMe> (gedit:9839): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:45] <HelpMe> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:45] <HelpMe> hype ?
[12:45] <Hype> hm..
[12:45] <Hype> aha, you are already root
[12:46] <Hype> skip the "sudo"
[12:46] <HelpMe> oki hype then
[12:46] <HelpMe> what to do ?
[12:46] <HelpMe> i see source.list
[12:46] <HelpMe> ?
[12:46] <HelpMe> to del #
[12:46] <HelpMe> to get update
[12:46] <HelpMe> ?
[12:47] <Hype> find the lines that looks like the one I pasted
[12:47] <HelpMe> hype oke w8
[12:47] <Hype> look for:
[12:47] <Hype> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[12:47] <Hype> ## repository.
[12:48] <HelpMe> Hype,  i found
[12:48] <HelpMe> then
[12:48] <HelpMe> ?
[12:48] <HelpMe> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[12:48] <HelpMe> ## repository.
[12:48] <HelpMe> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[12:48] <HelpMe> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[12:48] <HelpMe> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[12:48] <HelpMe> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[12:48] <HelpMe> ## team.
[12:48] <HelpMe> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[12:48] <HelpMe> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[12:48] <Hype> delete the "#" in front of the deb and deb-src
[12:49] <Hype> and add "multiverse" after universe
[12:49] <HelpMe> i del # whre to add multiverse
[12:49] <HelpMe> ?
[12:49] <Hype> at the end of the line
[12:49] <HelpMe> i now
[12:50] <HelpMe> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[12:50] <HelpMe>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[12:50] <HelpMe> this
[12:50] <HelpMe> ?
[12:50] <Hype> looks fine
[12:50] <HelpMe> then
[12:50] <HelpMe> ?
[12:50] <Hype> save it
[12:50] <Hype> do apt-get update
[12:51] <HelpMe> then Hype
[12:51] <HelpMe> ?
[12:51] <Hype> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:51] <Hype> and then wait :)
[12:51] <HelpMe> oki i donwload steel it
[12:52] <HelpMe> hype txn !
[12:52] <Hype> np
[12:52] <HelpMe> very thanks man
[12:52] <HelpMe> Hype,  where you from ?
[12:52] <Hype> sweden
[12:52] <HelpMe> oki
[12:59] <HelpMe> Hype,  do you here /
[12:59] <Hype> mm
[12:59] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~# apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <HelpMe> Reading package lists... Done
[12:59] <HelpMe> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:59] <HelpMe> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~#
[12:59] <HelpMe> or that
[12:59] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~# apt-get update
[12:59] <HelpMe> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg [189B] 
[12:59] <HelpMe> Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release [30.9kB] 
[12:59] <HelpMe> Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages [2304kB] 
[12:59] <HelpMe> Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages [91.6kB] 
[12:59] <HelpMe> Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Sources [915kB] 
[12:59] <HelpMe> Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources [46.9kB] 
[01:00] <HelpMe> Fetched 3388kB in 7m34s (7458B/s)
[01:00] <Hobbsee> do not paste!
[01:00] <HelpMe> Reading package lists... Done
[01:00] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~# apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <HelpMe> Reading package lists... Done
[01:00] <HelpMe> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:00] <HelpMe> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~#
[01:00] <Hobbsee> HelpMe: DO NOT PASTE!
[01:00] <Hobbsee> see the topic!
[01:00] <HelpMe> Hobbsee,  oki soryy
[01:00] <HelpMe> Hype,  ?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[01:01] <HelpMe> agrh
[01:01] <HelpMe> Hobbsee,  what to do ?
[01:02] <Hobbsee> paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[01:02] <Hobbsee> use kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list in a console, then copy the contents of the file, and paste it into the pastebin
[01:02] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[01:02] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:03] <HelpMe> Hobbsee,  can u say to me comand to comand
[01:03] <HelpMe> ?
[01:04] <Hobbsee> i just did
[01:04] <Hobbsee> use kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list in a console, then copy the contents of the file, and paste it into the pastebin
[01:04] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~#  kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:04] <HelpMe> bash: kdesu: command not found
[01:04] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~#
[01:04] <danimo> did anyone try building Xglx packages from freedesktop.org CVS?
[01:04] <HelpMe> Hobbsee,  /
[01:05] <danimo> (for dapper)
[01:05] <HelpMe> see
[01:05] <Hobbsee> why are you logged in as root?
[01:05] <HelpMe> Hobbsee,  yeah
[01:05] <Hobbsee> why are you, not are you :P
[01:05] <HelpMe> :))
[01:05] <HelpMe> Hobbsee,  what to do ?
[01:06] <Hobbsee> kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <Hobbsee> then copy the contents of the file, and paste it into the pastebin
[01:06] <Hobbsee> then give the link of the pastebin
[01:06] <HelpMe> kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <Hobbsee> into a console
[01:07] <HelpMe> kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <Hobbsee> *konsole
[01:07] <HelpMe> i knew
[01:07] <HelpMe> bas comand
[01:07] <HelpMe> root@ubuntu:~# kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <HelpMe> bash: kwrite: command not found
[01:08] <Hobbsee> kate /etc/apt/sources.list then
[01:08] <HelpMe> bas comand kate
[01:18] <bestadvocate> hello,  anyone know how to activate crossfading in amorok?
[01:19] <Hobbsee> bestadvocate: um, by using the xine engine instead of gstreamer, IIRC
[01:19] <bestadvocate> thanks hobbsee
[01:20] <bestadvocate> hobbsee: how do I install the mp3 codec for xine?
[01:20] <robotgeek> bestadvocate, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:21] <Hobbsee> doesnt look i'll have to use it again, fortunately
[01:21] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: ask Riddell that one...
[01:21] <jpatrick> hence the :P
[01:23] <tsdgeos> jpatrick: you where kubuntu-es admin?
[01:23] <jpatrick> tsdgeos: yes I am
[01:23] <tsdgeos> you know it's dead?
[01:23] <tsdgeos> the webpage i mean
[01:23] <jpatrick> tsdgeos: yes
[01:24] <tsdgeos> does anyone what's the name of the callgrind package?
[01:24] <tsdgeos> jpatrick: ok ;-)
[01:25] <jpatrick> tsdgeos: I'm trying to get it back, yes
[01:25] <Hobbsee> tsdgeos: valgrind-callgrind?
[01:26] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[01:26] <tsdgeos> does that package work for you?
[01:26] <tsdgeos> i get that message that says "some package is referencing here but i could not find it"
[01:26] <tsdgeos> maybe it's not available for amd64?
[01:26] <jpatrick> should be...
[01:29] <tsdgeos> it's not :D
[01:29] <tsdgeos> maybe i need breezy-backports ?
[01:29] <jpatrick> !info valgrind-callgrind
[01:29] <ubotu> valgrind-callgrind: (call-graph skin for valgrind), section universe/devel, is extra. Version: 0.9.11-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 408 kB
[01:30] <massimo> http://s1.bitefight.it/c.php?uid=18512
[01:30] <massimo> it is a web-based-game
[01:30] <tsdgeos> jpatrick: and that means?
[01:32] <_notech> hi
[01:33] <massimo> hi notech
[01:33] <_notech> massimo ita?
[01:33] <massimo> yes
[01:33] <_notech> pvt perf
[01:33] <massimo> azzo
[01:33] <_notech> nn va..
[01:33] <massimo> nn vanno, devo registrare il nick...
[01:33] <massimo> entra in
[01:34] <_notech> vabbeh,ho un problema,qlcke mese fa ho configurato linux
[01:34] <buz> !kopete
[01:34] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[01:34] <massimo> #ita-prova
[01:34] <_notech> asp
[01:34] <_notech> stiamo qua?
[01:34] <massimo> bh
[01:34] <buz> is there any kopete update to fix it after the recent icq breakage?
[01:34] <buz> i can't talk to miranda users anymore...
[01:34] <buz> gaim works
[01:34] <tsdgeos> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/valgrind-callgrind is only for i386 :-/
[01:34] <massimo> se vieni su ita prova(l'ho creato ora) possiamo parlare come in pvt
[01:34] <_notech> ok
[01:35] <_b> !safari
[01:35] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _b
[01:36] <jpatrick> Tm_T: red alert
[01:38] <brosioz> anyone have xgl on dapper ?
[01:38] <robotgeek> brosioz: try #ubuntu-xgl
[01:38] <_b> Is there an equalent "all seeing eye" for linux plattform ?
[01:39] <brosioz> robotgeek: thx
[01:39] <massimo> there is an italian channel for help?
[01:39] <jpatrick> !it
[01:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:39] <_notech> Hi! some time ago i have changed the boot of my Kubuntu to Console mode..now i want to revert back,but don't remeber anymore how to,could someone help me please?
[01:41] <_notech> any?
[01:42] <_notech> bump  :)
[01:42] <Tm_T> jpatrick: what?
[01:42] <MetaMorfoziS> is kubuntu handles pcmcia?
[01:42] <Hobbsee> presumably you have to change the settings in init.d somehow....if you can use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart to restart kdm...
[01:43] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: sure
[01:45] <notech> hi,any help?
[01:47] <LeeJunFan> notech: you mean it doesn't start the graphical login?
[01:47] <notech> no,it starts after i write sudo startx
[01:48] <notech> but i want to set back like it was default..auto-starts kde
[01:48] <notech> don't remeber how to..
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> notech: did you delete /etc/rc2.d/S21kdm?
[01:48] <notech> probably not..
[01:48] <notech> wait..
[01:49] <LeeJunFan> notech: ls /etc/rc2.d/*kdm and see if there's anything there.
[01:49] <_b> u look in grub.conf i think
[01:50] <notech> there is and there are many things in..
[01:50] <_b> i was wrong ..
[01:50] <notech> do i need to paste it?
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> notech: no, as long as kdm is in there.
[01:50] <notech> i remeber i have modified a file..but now dont remeber what it was
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> notech: what is the contents of /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> notech: should be /usr/bin/kdm
[01:51] <notech> #/usr/bin/kdm
[01:51] <notech> ahaaaa
[01:51] <Ryugi> i have tried ubuntu and it is pretty good
[01:51] <notech> :))))
[01:52] <notech> this was the file!
[01:52] <Ryugi> i feel i will try kubuntu next
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> notech: yeah, remove the #
[01:52] <notech> Thank you !!!! :)
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> notech: you're welcome.
[01:52] <notech> see u!
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> Ryugi: no need to re-install for that.
[01:53] <Ryugi> ok
[01:53] <Ryugi> what do i then
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> Ryugi: just install kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu. and change /etc/X11/default-display-manager so it has /usr/bin/kdm
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> Ryugi: kubuntu and ubuntu are exactly the same thing except ubuntu has gnome by default, kubuntu has kde by default.
[02:02] <Ryugi> i want to build apps but ajunta says automake is missing
[02:03] <_mindspin> !make
[02:03] <ubotu> _mindspin: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:03] <Ryugi> i see 5 versions of automake
[02:03] <_mindspin> !kernel
[02:03] <Ryugi> which one should i get
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> Ryugi: install build-essential
[02:03] <_mindspin> yep
[02:03] <_mindspin> !kernel
[02:04] <_mindspin> !kernel-sources
[02:04] <ubotu> _mindspin: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:04] <_mindspin> aargh
[02:04] <_mindspin> !build-essentials
[02:04] <ubotu> _mindspin: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:04] <_mindspin> !build-essential
[02:04] <ubotu> build-essential is, like, a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[02:04] <_mindspin> !gcc
[02:04] <ubotu> well, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[02:05] <Ryugi> automake is not in build-essentials
[02:05] <_mindspin> sudo apt-get install make/automake
[02:06] <jpatrick> Tm_T: @*.it
[02:06] <LeeJunFan> Ryugi: you can install both automakes if you wish. The default automake is normally good enough.
[02:13] <Ryugi> ok
[02:17] <iroberti> Hi. I have a problem. I Install Wine in Kubuntu dapper and when I try to start Wine, it reply "Killed". Someone has a solution? Thx
[02:22] <gigi> http://s1.bitefight.it/c.php?uid=18512
[02:24] <stjepan> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? just kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop??
[02:25] <jpatrick> one uses KDE the other GNOME
[02:25] <stjepan> btw what do you think of linus tovalds' "kde vs gnome" ?
[02:26] <stjepan> jpatrick: I installed kubuntu. If I install ubuntu-desktop and remove kubuntu-desktop, I will get ubuntu?
[02:26] <jpatrick> yes
[02:27] <stjepan> good
[02:27] <jpatrick> but you'll have to remove the KDE packages
[02:27] <stjepan> why?
[02:27] <stjepan> cant I just leave them?
[02:27] <jpatrick> kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[02:27] <stjepan> I know
[02:28] <stjepan> so I will have to manualy remove all kde pkgs?
[02:28] <stjepan> doesnt apt remove dependencies of a metapkg?
[02:28] <Hobbsee> yes, remove libqt3-mt and that'll remove every kde package
[02:28] <jpatrick> yeah that^^
[02:28] <Hobbsee> stjepan: no, aptitude does, if you install it with aptitude in the first place
[02:28] <sniff> oh god
[02:28] <stjepan> good
[02:28] <stjepan> tnx
[02:29] <sniff> Hobbsee:  this is what i did a few days  ago byaccident!
[02:29] <sniff> i destroyed my system
[02:29] <jpatrick> ha
[02:29] <Hobbsee> LOL oops!
[02:29] <sniff> Hobbsee: spent the next 3 hours reinstalling
[02:29] <Hobbsee> why not just install kubuntu-desktop again?
[02:29] <sniff> Hobbsee: i did reinstall
[02:29] <Hobbsee> mmm
[02:29] <sniff> Hobbsee: but my comp was really slow after that
[02:29] <stjepan> sniff: that just windows users do :P
[02:29] <sniff> Hobbsee: something went amiss
[02:29] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[02:30] <sniff> Hobbsee: was just easier to reformat /
[02:30] <Hobbsee> true
[02:30] <stjepan> btw, how to remove synchronizing clock at boot??
[02:30] <sniff> bloody hell
[02:30] <LiGhTeNiN> Hey, Can someone help me to get my net working under kubuntu?
[02:30] <sniff> Hobbsee: i wish it would warn me i was about to nuke my system!
[02:30] <sniff> LiGhTeNiN: what's wrong withit?
[02:30] <sniff> LiGhTeNiN: i mean what net isit?
[02:30] <LiGhTeNiN> I got a router, an adsl connection
[02:30] <Hobbsee> sniff: it didnt?  it should have showed a lot of stuff being removed!
[02:31] <sniff> it did! but then it was too late when i saw all the kde apps scrolling by saying they'd been successfuly removed!
[02:31] <LiGhTeNiN> Under knoppix i just entered the ip, default gateway subnet and stuff and it automatically executed an ifconfig command
[02:31] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> help me!! attention!!! i'm lame!! and i'm apt-get remove-d the python and its removed ~400 kde- apps and x and kdm and aaaaaa
[02:31] <sniff> LiGhTeNiN: u on dsl?
[02:31] <LiGhTeNiN> Yes
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me to restore its
[02:32] <sniff> LiGhTeNiN: open a terminal
[02:32] <sniff> LiGhTeNiN: pppoeconf
[02:32] <LiGhTeNiN> sniff: no..
[02:32] <LiGhTeNiN> I got a router
[02:32] <sniff> MetaMorfoziS: good luck/1 my advice is reinsatll
[02:32] <stjepan> MetaMorfoziS: just install kubuntu-desktop, it should install x and kdm and kde apps
[02:32] <sniff> LiGhTeNiN: ah
[02:32] <stjepan> MetaMorfoziS: and python too
[02:32] <LiGhTeNiN> Read what I said
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> but apt-get said:
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> eta@metagepe:~/Desktop/progz$ sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:32] <stjepan> MetaMorfoziS: no dont reinstall kubuntu
[02:32] <sniff> LiGhTeNiN: fine
[02:33] <stjepan> MetaMorfoziS: then run dpkg --configure -a
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please helpme:)
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> so what i do?
[02:33] <stjepan> MetaMorfoziS: try to find log of apt to find out what packages did it remove
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> in var/log
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not found
[02:35] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm
[02:35] <MetaMorfoziS> dpkg --configure -a
[02:35] <MetaMorfoziS> not said anything
[02:35] <MetaMorfoziS> it's good not?
[02:35] <MetaMorfoziS> before at his5 minutes it said sg..
[02:35] <stjepan> MetaMorfoziS: less /var/log/aptitude
[02:36] <stjepan> MetaMorfoziS: or less /var/log/dpkg.log
[02:36] <MetaMorfoziS> uhu:)
[02:37] <MetaMorfoziS> at the end of aptitude
[02:37] <MetaMorfoziS> it isn't that i'm seedi int adept
[02:37] <danimo> Riddell: ping?
[02:38] <MetaMorfoziS> adept asks me during the remove: "Do you want to stop kdm?"
[02:38] <MetaMorfoziS> fukk...
[02:38] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[02:38] <MetaMorfoziS> so i'm only need python and kde-dekstop?
[02:42] <GTX> How do I print my screen in kde?
[02:42] <GTX> :S
[02:42] <jpatrick> GTX: ksnapshot
[02:43] <jpatrick> GTX: Ctrl+Print Scrn
[02:43] <jpatrick> GTX: Alt+Print Scrn
[02:43] <jpatrick> :)
[02:43] <GTX> jpatrick,
[02:44] <GTX> does nothing
[02:44] <jpatrick> :/
[02:44] <GTX>  ksnapshot in command line works
[02:44] <MetaMorfoziS> it said kde-desktop package not found
[02:45] <GTX> jpatrick, how do I bind it
[02:45] <GTX> so just print screen works
[02:45] <jpatrick> GTX: you should get an image
[02:45] <GTX> explain?
[02:46] <jpatrick> run ksnapshot and it will appear with a screenshot
[02:46] <GTX> when I click print screen
[02:46] <GTX> nothing happens
[02:46] <GTX> indeed.
[02:46] <MetaMorfoziS> shit, my ubuntu is going to die, gtx biggest problem is screenshot
[02:46] <GTX> but I want it so i can just press a button
[02:46] <MetaMorfoziS> fuck
[02:46] <GTX> MetaMorfoziS, ?
[02:46] <jpatrick> GTX: Ctrl+Print Screen
[02:47] <MetaMorfoziS> GTX? GO TO UNLOCK PANELS, RIGHTCLICK MENU EDITOR
[02:47] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: eh?
[02:47] <MetaMorfoziS> AND GO TO THE IMAGING  -> KSNAPSHOT AND BINDIT TO SCREENSHOT BUTON
[02:47] <GTX> unlock pannels?
[02:47] <MetaMorfoziS> AND /quit
[02:47] <GTX> wheres this
[02:47] <MetaMorfoziS> at kicker!
[02:47] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: right.......
[02:47] <GTX> if your not going to speak proper to me
[02:47] <GTX> go back to hungary
[02:47] <GTX> where you came from
[02:47] <GTX> thanks
[02:47] <MetaMorfoziS> kurva anyd
[02:47] <MetaMorfoziS> neszebazdmeg magyarul
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> gtx, fuxk you
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> thanks.
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> nobody helps me about system restore
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> but for you creating screenshot is yes.
[02:48] <GTX> doesnt mean you should take it out on me?
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> its quiet good.
[02:49] <rosemary> MetaMorfoziS: you might want to be careful about your language
[02:49] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: install kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not found
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm wroted ^^
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> my sources .list is the old
[02:49] <GTX> MetaMorfoziS, I cant find
[02:49] <jpatrick> !sourcces
[02:49] <ubotu> jpatrick: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:49] <GTX> what you said
[02:50] <MetaMorfoziS> and the full list
[02:50] <jpatrick> !sources
[02:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:50] <MetaMorfoziS> yes ^^ is
[02:50] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm edited it after install
[02:51] <GTX> GO TO UNLOCK PANELS, RIGHTCLICK MENU EDITOR
[02:51] <GTX> Where is this?
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> shut up.
[02:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm a lil bit frustrated
[02:51] <GTX> Dont take it out on me please..
[02:52] <GTX> Its only a computer
[02:52] <GTX> get a life
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> gtx, go to your garden, and leave me.
[02:52] <GTX> Dont have a garden?
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> come for my garden.
[02:52] <kwewu14> how do i get kdm to load on boot?
[02:52] <GTX> no because its blown up..
[02:52] <rosemary> hey guys - cool it heh
[02:53] <jpatrick> or I'm have to take control
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> so
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-desktop not found
[02:53] <jpatrick> it;s kubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <GTX> rosemary, do you know where I can bind screenshot command to printscreen
[02:53] <kwewu14> MetaMorfoziS: its kde or kubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <MetaMorfoziS> hoh
[02:54] <rosemary> GTX no sorry
[02:54] <GTX> ok
[02:54] <MetaMorfoziS> kubuntu-desktop not installed:)
[02:54] <MetaMorfoziS> lol
[02:54] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm under the graphical screen...
[02:54] <rosemary> GTX - have you tried the forums?
[02:54] <MetaMorfoziS> so.
[02:54] <MetaMorfoziS> gtx
[02:54] <jpatrick> GTX: press Alt+Print Screen then Ctrl-V it into an image program
[02:54] <GTX> not yet
[02:54] <MetaMorfoziS> if your kicker isn't locked
[02:54] <MetaMorfoziS> you haven't unlockpanels
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> so go to kde-button
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> at your kicker
[02:55] <GTX> jpatrick, I just want it so when I press print screen it opens that kprintscreen dialog thingy
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> and rightclick.
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> get the menu editor
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> and find out ksnapshot
[02:55] <jpatrick> GTX: ah right then configure hotkeys at System Settings
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> at the ksnapshot element you can set a bind key
[02:55] <GTX> ok
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, the hotkes @ system setup is equal...
[02:56] <MetaMorfoziS> is the same:)
[02:56] <GTX> I cant find it :(
[02:56] <GTX> I've even done a search for it in the control center
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> you have it
[02:57] <MetaMorfoziS> if you not removed it for example with python:DDD
[02:58] <GTX> I cant see it :(
[02:58] <GTX> where is it exactly
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> yo need to add it your kde menu
[02:58] <GTX> how?
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm spoked about a menu editor
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> or
[02:58] <jpatrick> GTX: alt-f2: kcontrol
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> you can tipe kcontrol to the terminal
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> y
[02:58] <GTX> ok im in there
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> alt-f2?
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> oh yes.. lol:)
[02:59] <GTX> What I do now im in there
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> have i'm a little chance to my ubuntu starts again after installed kubuntu-desktop?
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i check it?
[03:00] <GTX> jpatrick, what now ?
[03:00] <jpatrick> GTX: go to the hotkeys part
[03:01] <GTX> There isnt a hotkeys part
[03:01] <GTX> :S
[03:01] <kwewu14> how do i get kdm to load on boot?
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i check, what packages i haven't which needs kubuntu to start up?
[03:02] <GTX> jpatrick, There is no hotkeys part mate :/
[03:02] <jpatrick> odd
[03:02] <GTX> Aprrerance, Desktop, Internet+network, KDE, Periphels, Power Control, Pregional, Securty, Sound, System Administration
[03:02] <GTX> Thats it
[03:02] <GTX> Just to let you know I was on ubunutu but installed kubuntu-desktop
[03:02] <GTX> dont know if this makes any difference
[03:03] <GTX> any ideas jpatrick ?
[03:04] <jpatrick> no, if it's missing.....
[03:04] <GTX> I installed it but its still not there
[03:05] <rosemary> GTX are you on broadband?
[03:05] <GTX> Leased line 40mbit
[03:05] <GTX> charlie@host-82-136-48-134:~$ hotkeys
[03:05] <GTX> hotkeys: You must set the keyboard type, use hotkeys -t <type> to set it.
[03:05] <GTX> I got that jpatrick
[03:05] <jpatrick> :)
[03:05] <MetaMorfoziS> thank you for all people who helps me, and GTX to annyo me.
[03:05] <MetaMorfoziS> annoying
[03:05] <GTX> lol..
[03:05] <rosemary> GTX would you lose much of ?home if you downloaded kubuntu and intsalled
[03:06] <GTX> yes rosemary
[03:06] <GTX> isnt kubuntu just ubuntu and
[03:06] <GTX> kubuntu desktop
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> baaah
[03:06] <rosemary> GTX okay - I'm too new :-)
[03:06] <GTX> ;p
[03:06] <MetaMorfoziS> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde:D
[03:07] <MetaMorfoziS> so you  have kubuntu, i think.
[03:08] <GTX> jpatrick, I type hotkeys -t msnet
[03:08] <GTX> and it boots up but then
[03:08] <GTX> closes
[03:08] <GTX> :/
[03:09] <jpatrick> :\
[03:10] <GTX> shouldnt printscreen button work by default?
[03:12] <GTX> jpatrick, another thing, in KDE how do I make it so everytime I go onto a new desktop
[03:12] <GTX> ie desktop 3, it has a different set of things
[03:12] <GTX> atm if i open something up in desktop 1
[03:12] <GTX> I can still see the application in desktop 3
[03:13] <GTX> in the taskbar etc
[03:13] <jpatrick> GTX: configure taskbar-> Taskbar
[03:15] <GTX> thanks :)
[03:22] <GTX> jpatrick, i found the keyboard shortcut thing
[03:22] <GTX> it still dont work
[03:22] <GTX> :(
[03:22] <GTX> and its set to printscreen
[03:22] <jpatrick> command: 'ksnapshot' ?
[03:23] <GTX> indeed
[03:23] <jpatrick> :/
[03:23] <kenroy_> hello
[03:23] <kenroy_> how do i setup swat after installing it
[03:24] <GTX> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57707&highlight=printscreen+work
[03:24] <GTX> look there jpatrick  :/
[03:25] <kenroy_> i have installed swat (samba web frontend)
[03:25] <kenroy_> but i don't know how to start it
[03:25] <kenroy_> on ubuntu
[03:25] <jpatrick> kenroy_: you go to http://localhost:$somenumber
[03:25] <jpatrick> I can't remember which one
[03:25] <jpatrick> GTX: I'm going
[03:26] <kenroy_> i believe it is 901
[03:26] <kenroy_> but i am not connecting
[03:30] <kenroy_> how do i restat the inetd server in ubuntu
[03:46] <_uma> hi everybody
[03:46] <_uma> I've run fetchmail on kubuntu breezy but I have no idea of where mail actually is
[03:46] <_uma> any hints?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> _uma: /var/mail?
[03:51] <_uma> Kamping_Kaiser: mutt shows both /var/mail/uma and /var/spool/mail/uma as empty :\
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> _uma: oh :/ (/var/spool/mail is a symlink)
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. is it in your home dir? maildir/mbox/something else?
[03:53] <_uma> nope
[03:53] <_uma> : /var/mail/uma does't even exist
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> cant realy help much. never got into fetch mail
[03:57] <thompa> is there some way to burn apt-get updates to cd?
[04:00] <thompa> hello
[04:09] <_jerome> Bonjour tout le monde
[04:10] <_jerome> je suis un nouvel utilisateur de kubuntu (ancien dbianeux), je voudrai savoir comment modifier mon sources.list pour une version AMD64
[04:12] <_mindspin> !f
[04:12] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin
[04:13] <_mindspin> !french
[04:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin
[04:13] <jpatrick> !fr
[04:13] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:13] <_mindspin> hanx jpatrick
[04:13] <ryanakca> if I install GIMP 2.2.9 from here: http://packages.debian.org/testing/graphics/gimp  will it still work on Kubuntu Breezy with KDE 3.5.1 even though it package is made for Debian?
[04:14] <_mindspin> you'll have to check it
[04:27] <_uma>  /j #mutt
[04:28] <bluechecka> hi, habe folgendes prob:
[04:28] <bluechecka> &q=kubuntu+root+logins+are+not+allowed&btnG=Suche&meta=lr%3Dlang_de
[04:29] <bluechecka> kubuntu root logins are not allowed sagt er mir, wenn ich mich versuche als root anzumelden wieso?
[04:29] <jpatrick> bluechecka: root is disabled by default
[04:30] <bluechecka> wie root is disabled by default?
[04:30] <jpatrick> security reasons
[04:30] <bluechecka> in kuser hab ich den freigeschaltet,...
[04:30] <jpatrick> use 'sudo'
[04:30] <jpatrick> !root
[04:30] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:31] <EightiesK> !sudo
[04:31] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:31] <EightiesK> :-p
[04:31] <bluechecka> englisch is nicht so leicht :(
[04:31] <jpatrick> !de
[04:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:32] <bluechecka> thx
[04:39] <notech> hi,how do i upgrade to kde 3.5? (i have kubuntu 5.10 with kde 3.4.3)
[04:40] <notech> i have read and done all described in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[04:40] <notech> then sudo apt-get update
[04:40] <notech> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:40] <notech> but it has ugraded only 19 files.. and i am still on kde 3.4.3
[04:41] <notech> anyone?
[04:42] <gamma> you're positive you added it to your sources list?
[04:42] <notech> yes!!
[04:42] <gamma> oho
[04:42] <gamma> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:42] <notech> :)
[04:42] <notech> ok
[04:43] <gamma> upgrade holds back packages that have new dependencies
[04:43] <notech> hmm that's ok
[04:43] <gamma> dist-upgrade gets the whole boat
[04:43] <notech> thank you
[04:43] <notech> cross the fingers for me.. :)
[04:44] <gamma> kde-3.5 is a huge improvement over 3.4.3 in my opinion
[04:44] <notech> let's hope
[04:44] <notech> downloading
[04:48] <notech> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:48] <notech> var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb: No such file or directory
[04:48] <notech> root@NoTech:~# E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:48] <notech> why?
[04:48] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:49] <gamma> yea try typing the command in again
[04:50] <notech> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:50] <notech> but efter some files again error
[04:50] <notech> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb
[04:50] <notech> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:51] <notech> what do i supposed to do now?
[04:51] <notech> restart kde and retry? or maybe it will not start kde anymore!?
[04:51] <gamma> i don't know the apt-get commands very well.. you can try adept
[04:52] <notech> half files are installed now
[04:52] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:52] <notech> i do
[04:52] <notech> always error
[04:54] <hyperactivecrond> morning all in EST
[04:55] <as_284> hello
[04:55] <notech> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[04:55] <notech>  failed in buffer_write(fd) (9, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/libkdeprint.so.4.2.0': No space left on device
[04:55] <notech> ??????
[04:55] <as_284> does anyone know how to disabled  the pad in a notebook?
[04:56] <gamma> notech: are you out of space?
[04:56] <notech> how do i??
[04:56] <gamma> df -h
[04:56] <notech> yess
[04:56] <notech> !!!
[04:56] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, notech
[04:57] <notech> its strange
[04:57] <gamma> so either buy a new drive, delete some stuff.. or i dunno :P
[04:57] <notech> :)
[04:57] <alfabit> how i can use 4 channel sound?
[04:58] <notech> quick question: when i delete a file,it says move to trash,where do i clean the trrash then?
[04:58] <_b> trash is on desktop
[04:58] <notech> i dont have
[04:58] <_b> as in windows
[04:58] <as_284> does anyone know how to disabled  the pad in a notebook?
[04:58] <gamma> click the computer icon on the task bar and choose trash
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> notech: klik the blue trash can on the left of the clock
[04:58] <tsdgeos> notech: don't you have it besides the clock either?
[05:00] <notech> ok added to taskbar
[05:00] <notech> thanx
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> is there an enlightenment 17 deb?
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> for ubuntu
[05:14] <dragonkh> hello any networking people in here?
[05:14] <dragonkh> how do I set up my internet access without NAT ?
[05:15] <boha> hello!!
[05:15] <boha> anyone here?
[05:16] <boha> hello!!
[05:16] <dragonkh> hi
[05:16] <Lausi> hallo
[05:17] <boha> plz look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8443
[05:17] <boha> i get this on my screen when i boot live cd
[05:17] <boha> what schuld i do?
[05:18] <boha> any suggestions?
[05:21] <Cainus> hey...anyone know how to install azureus using apt-get? I was following a tutorial, but I keep getting errors...
[05:22] <Pupeno> is it possible to download all updates of kubuntu to burn it to a CD for someone who has slow access to internet ?
[05:23] <jpatrick> Pupeno:
[05:23] <jpatrick> yes
[05:23] <Pupeno> jpatrick: how ?
[05:24] <jpatrick> Pupeno: check in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:24] <Pupeno> jpatrick: I clean it up regularly.
[05:24] <jpatrick> ok, => problem
[05:34] <zyth> for some reason my cdroms/dvds arent automoutning anymore.. anyone know how I can fix that?
[05:36] <vge> check your fstab
[05:37] <zyth> hmm nothing in there for my cdrom
[05:38] <zyth> just /dev/hdc
[05:41] <mth`MAW> zyth: try lofs | grep cd
[05:42] <mth`MAW> it shows you which processes ar blocking the umount
[05:42] <zyth> k
[05:43] <zyth> oh, I can MANUALLY mount / unmount
[05:43] <zyth> but when I installed last night it'd automatically do it
[05:43] <mth`MAW> and btw it is lsof
[05:43] <zyth> ran the updater, and it's broken now
[05:43] <mth`MAW> mhm
[05:52] <zyth> well if  I can't fix this I'll have to format, damnit
[05:56] <boha> plz look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8443
[05:56] <boha> i get this on my screen when i boot live cd
[05:57] <boha> what shuld i do?
[05:58] <weedar> Anyone here that uses saxon to converrt docbook xml to xhtml? :)
[05:59] <jpatrick> boha: what's wrong?
[06:11] <LiGhTeNiN> I managed to mess up my hosts file, how should it look by default?
[06:13] <mnoir> what does it look like now?
[06:13] <LiGhTeNiN> oh, I already got some help
[06:13] <LiGhTeNiN> but thanks anyway
[06:13] <mnoir> k :)
[06:30] <kwewu14> what package contains the xorg docs?
[06:36] <luisito> how do I uninstall a software that I installed compiling it.?
[06:38] <jshadow> do a make uninstall in the source dir
[06:39] <luisito> thanks jshadow
[06:39] <jshadow> no prob
[06:40] <ganymed_> hallo
[06:40] <jshadow> Hello ganymed
[06:56] <pinotree> hello
[06:57] <pinotree> how can i make kdesu work on breezy?
[06:58] <fowler> does does anyone know how to change KDE's behaviour to Double-click?
[07:03] <fowler> exit
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> What's the kde video editor? not kdenlive. I know there's one in the repos somewhere.
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> kino - found it. :)
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> not exactly kde video edit, but owell.
[07:11] <mah> DK: hi
[07:11] <mah> naaa
[07:11] <DK> hi
[07:11] <mah> DK: /join #rtfg
[07:11] <DK> bis du es
[07:11] <mah> Ja, bin ich ;)
[07:12] <DK> #rtfg
[07:12] <mah> DK: click
[07:12] <mah> cya
[07:16] <tilo> Any KDevelop Gurus in here?
[07:16] <tilo> I have no idea how to get Codeautocompleation
[07:17] <tilo> to work
[07:17] <ziza> join #kdevelop
[07:17] <pinotree> tilo: --> #kdevelop i guess
[07:17] <tilo> ok
[07:17] <tid-wave> is there some program for converting between audio formats ?
[07:18] <pinotree> sorry for posting again... how can i make kdesu work on breezy?
[07:18] <Ex-Cyber> tid-wave: sox converts among the various "raw" audio formats, for transcoding you'd need something more heavyweight and I don't know what to suggest
[07:19] <tid-wave> hmm
[07:19] <ziza> what's the easiest way to copy a file inside a tar archive into a folder which needs root access? note that the tar archive lies in my home directory. i want to know to do that in Konqui and console, can somebody enlighten me, please?
[07:20] <ziza> *to know _how_ to do that
[07:20] <vge> ziza: untar with gui tools then "sudo cp filename location?
[07:21] <ziza> ok, so there's no way to do that without un-taring?
[07:21] <vge> that i dont know
[07:21] <pinotree> ziza: kde has a zip protcol...
[07:22] <ziza> Konqueror in particular allows to open archives in the same manner as a normal folder
[07:22] <pinotree> yep
[07:22] <ziza> and i can copy files from there to any location which doesn't require root access
[07:23] <pinotree> ziza: execute konqueror as a root, and then drag and drop for that archive to the root konqueror
[07:23] <ziza> hm, yeah that seems logical but a little awkward
[07:24] <pinotree> nah
[07:24] <ziza> Konqui should prompt me for a password if i want to execute privileged operations
[07:24] <yobrobo> What Repositiory do I need to add so I Can Install mc
[07:24] <pinotree> because you need root privileges, it's a logical solutions
[07:24] <ziza> then there's no need to launch Konqui with root access in the first place
[07:26] <ziza> it would be very useful if there existed such a feature, i mean asking for a password when the user just wants to do something that requires administrator rights
[07:26] <Psi-Jack> yobrobo: mc, as in midnight commander?
[07:26] <yobrobo> yes
[07:27] <Psi-Jack> yobrobo: mc is GNU, so it's in the official repositories.
[07:28] <yobrobo> then why can't adept find it?
[07:28] <yobrobo> I have all the normal ones as well as universal
[07:30] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. I see it...
[07:30] <Psi-Jack> Ahh.. It's in the breezy-backports.
[07:31] <yobrobo> ah ok
[07:31] <yobrobo> that makes sence
[07:31] <Psi-Jack> No, not really.
[07:41] <ComPro> I upgraded to Dapper Drake, and I've lost my sound. My mixer has pretty much everything turned all the way up (except for treble and bass, which are half way), and amaroK complains that it can't find gstreamer, and falls back to xine. What can I do to get my sound back?
[07:41] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:42] <douglas> I broke sudo
[07:43] <douglas> When I type sudo and anything else it says, "sudo: must be setuid root"
[07:43] <douglas> I think it's because I did this chown -R username /usr/bin
[07:43] <douglas> ?
[07:58] <ComPro> I upgraded to Dapper Drake, and I've lost my sound. My mixer has pretty much everything turned all the way up (except for treble and bass, which are half way), and amaroK complains that it can't find gstreamer, and falls back to xine. What can I do to get my sound back?
[07:59] <ricky_ds> Hi, Amarok cannot play mp3 files. What package is missing?
[08:01] <jpatrick> ricky_ds: gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:03] <ricky_ds> jpatrick: thanx
[08:05] <Phazeman> trappist: there ?
[08:06] <ricky_ds> Is there anything I'm missing? I have a lot of documents produced by StarOffice 5 and which OOo 2 cannot convert. It brings up the list of all conversion filters, but when I tell it to use StarWriter 5 or StarCalc 5, it says it could not read the file. Any hints?
[08:09] <ricky_ds> more precisely, it says "general error / general input-output error"
[08:20] <Phazeman> looks like my X server is not started at startup. the X log does not appear at all in /var/log . can anyone help please ?
[08:21] <kosh> Phazeman: you installed a normal kubuntu install?
[08:21] <kosh> Phazeman: you did not select server or anything like that?
[08:22] <Phazeman> kosh: the install is regular. i started to happen once i upgraded to dapper drake
[08:22] <kosh> Phazeman: ah ok
[08:22] <Phazeman> i mean is it a known issue ?
[08:22] <kosh> not that I know of
[08:22] <Phazeman> kosh: what can i check to see why the X log does not appear anymore ?
[08:23] <kosh> Phazeman: most likely you do not have x installed anymore
[08:23] <Phazeman> kosh: oh yes i do
[08:23] <Phazeman> icluding the latest KDE
[08:24] <Phazeman> and the latest NVIDIA drivers reinstalled after the new kernel installation
[08:24] <kosh> Phazeman: can you do dpkg -l | grep xorg and put the output in the pastebin/
[08:24] <Phazeman> kosh: in a sec
[08:25] <Phazeman> kosh: it's about 3 pages of daa
[08:25] <Phazeman> data*
[08:25] <kameron> does the amd64 release work with turion processors?
[08:25] <Phazeman> kosh: you want it all ?
[08:26] <kosh> in the pastebin
[08:26] <treyh0> on kubuntu-amd64, how can i get openoffice to have the same 'style' or appearance as the rest of the kde apps?  my gtk-qt engine is setup but it's not affecting the openoffice program i guess because it's 32-bit
[08:26] <treyh0> kameron: yep
[08:26] <kosh> treyh0: openoffice is not gtk or qt
[08:27] <kosh> treyh0: it is its own thing
[08:27] <treyh0> kosh: oh
[08:27] <ricky_ds> anyone has old staroffice 5 documents on their machine? if yes, can you try opening them with ooo2 which is installed by default on kubuntu 5.10? It doesn't work on my side and I'm curious to know if it works with somebody else
[08:27] <Phazeman> kosh: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/561496
[08:27] <treyh0> bummer.  i wonder what package it is on -i386 that gives it the kubuntu appearance
[08:28] <richard1> someone who how to extract file .daa?
[08:28] <kosh> Phazeman: is kdm installed?
[08:28] <Phazeman> kosh: let me check but i'm pretty sure it is...
[08:28] <kosh> can you also do sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[08:29] <kosh> richard1: I have not seen that extension before
[08:29] <Phazeman> kosh: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/561498
[08:29] <Phazeman> kosh: in a sec
[08:29] <kosh> Phazeman: that says that kdm is not installed
[08:30] <richard1> kosh: is similar to .iso
[08:30] <Phazeman> kosh: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/561500
[08:30] <Phazeman> kosh: what do you mean not installed ????
[08:31] <Phazeman> oh god !!! it was broke i guess :( dang !!!
[08:31] <Phazeman> kosh: thanks !!!! going to try installing and running it...
[08:31] <Phazeman> thanks much !!!!
[08:32] <kosh> Phazeman: can you do sudo apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdm
[08:32] <derrich> i'm new to debian/kubuntu, so i'm not sure if i'm doing something incorrectly. i'm trying to install kernel sources so i can build modules for semi-obscure hardware on a machine. i ran "apt-get install kernel-source" and it didn't spit back an error message, but i can't seem to figure out where kubuntu places the sources
[08:32] <kosh> rc means not installed, it means the package was once installed and the config files are still present
[08:32] <Phazeman> kosh: installing now
[08:33] <Phazeman> kosh: thank you very much  !!!
[08:33] <kosh> derrich: I need the exact error message
[08:33] <Phazeman> kosh: no errors for now
[08:33] <kosh> Phazeman: no problem, I just like to start at lower levels before finding higher level problems that is why I checked for a complete x install first :)
[08:35] <Phazeman> kosh: great !! it's all being installed now. can't wait to see it works
[08:35] <derrich> kosh, sorry about that.
[08:35] <derrich> there's a wind storm around here, the wireless internet is going in and out.
[08:36] <derrich> i don't know if my last message got through
[08:36] <derrich> i installed kernel-package, which appears to have kernel-source as a dependency
[08:36] <derrich> it installed, there were no error messages
[08:36] <derrich> but /usr/src is empty
[08:37] <derrich> and i don't know where source has been placed
[08:38] <kosh> dereks: you are running breezy? which version? x86, x86-64 or ppc?
[08:38] <_david> :)
[08:39] <kosh> sorry wrong autocomplete
[08:39] <_david> because he left, the auto went wrong I think :p
[08:39] <kosh> ah I see
[08:39] <kosh> sorry paying attention to too many things at once
[08:41] <hugelmopf> is there a time schedule for flight 4?
[08:43] <derrich> so i seriously hate wireless internet during a storm.
[08:43] <derrich> anyhow.
[08:43] <derrich> does kubuntu place kernel source in /usr/src/ as most distros do?
[08:44] <redondos> Hello, there. I need some help, I can't log in to KDE, after entering user/pass on KDM login screen, I see a blank screen and then I get thrown back to kdm.
[08:45] <hugelmopf> derrich: yes, it does.
[08:45] <hugelmopf> derrich: what you are looking for is called "linux-source-...", not "kernel-source-..."
[08:45] <hugelmopf> derrich: (the package)
[08:46] <hugelmopf> redondos: did you do anything unusual before that started to happen?
[08:46] <redondos> hugelmopf: Not that I can remember.
[08:46] <redondos> hugelmopf: But I don't think so, no.
[08:46] <_david> hello, I read somewhere that kubuntu supports suspend to disk in the default install, I have breezy installed but can't find it, it this correct?
[08:47] <hugelmopf> redondos: so you are not IRC'ing from KDE now, right?
[08:47] <Flosoft> how do I create a user?
[08:47] <derrich> oh god i hate internet
[08:47] <derrich> anyway
[08:47] <derrich> thank you, guy whose username i forgot
[08:47] <redondos> hugelmopf: Nope, I started a failsafe session, which opened a small gnome-terminal. (about 1/4th of the screen)
[08:47] <derrich> i will install linux-source as opposed to kernel-source
[08:48] <derrich> but honestly, i thought installing kernel-source was probably a good way to install the kernel source.
[08:48] <derrich> silly me :P
[08:48] <Phazeman> kosh: oki... we've got progress here :)
[08:48] <Phazeman> kosh: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! <- this is what i get in the Xorg.0.log
[08:48] <Phazeman> kosh: looks like i have to reinstall the NVIDIA driver
[08:48] <arafat> Flosoft: try adduser
[08:48] <redondos> hugelmopf: The biggest problem is that I can see no errors in Xorg.0.log
[08:49] <hugelmopf> redondos: ok. have you tried moving your .kde out of the way?
[08:49] <redondos> Nope, I haven't tried that. But I can't log in to xfce, either.
[08:49] <hugelmopf> redondos: switch to a console (Ctrl-Alt-F1), login, and "mv .kde .kde_old"
[08:49] <hugelmopf> redondos: ah, ok
[08:49] <redondos> Nor gnome, nor fvwm...
[08:50] <Otis> hi all, what kind of protocol supported by Kopete can transmit live webcam video ?
[08:50] <redondos> I can, though, log in to xfce if started with the 'startxfce4' wrapper script.
[08:50] <derrich> hugelmopf: once linux-source is installed, is the source tree copied to /usr/src ?
[08:50] <hugelmopf> derrich: i believe it will be /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12-10 or whatever
[08:51] <Flosoft> thx arafat
[08:51] <derrich> hugelmopf: thanks.
[08:51] <hugelmopf> redondos: that's strange indeed. what about "startx"?
[08:51] <redondos> startx, startkde all fail to a weird error I'll paste in a minute.
[08:52] <hugelmopf> redondos: ok, i'll look at the error
[08:52] <derrich> hugelmopf: i'm trying to get a linksys wireless-g usb adapter to work as this machine's internet connection. so i have to reboot back and forth between windows/kubuntu every time i can't figure out how kubuntu does something. i'll probably be back :)
[08:54] <redondos> hugelmopf: It was a little hard to paste it using lynx, here it goes: http://pastebin.com/561539
[08:56] <hugelmopf> redondos: i am sorry, that seems to be beyond my scope.
[08:56] <redondos> All right, thanks for the effort.
[08:56] <ricky_ds> how can I see with which options the OpenOffice.org package used by kubuntu has been compiled?
[08:57] <hugelmopf> redondos: no worries
[09:09] <angasule> will dapper improve the font support?
[09:10] <trispace> angasule: are you not happy with breezy font support?
[09:11] <angasule> trispace: not happy is an understatement!
[09:11] <trispace> angasule: i've no problems at all
[09:11] <angasule> trispace: do you use IPA?
[09:11] <trispace> angasule: what's that?
[09:11] <angasule> international phonetic alphabet
[09:11] <angasule> georgian doesn't seem to have full support, either
[09:12] <trispace> angasule: no, i'm using only german/english fonts
[09:13] <kosh> I have not had any problems with fonts
[09:13] <angasule> trispace: well, if *that* didn't work right we might as well be using binary code directly :P
[09:13] <kosh> unicode seems to work fine
[09:13] <trispace> angasule: i must admit that i'm using only windows ttf's
[09:13] <angasule> kosh: what scripts?
[09:13] <angasule> trispace: I tried adding some unicode IPA ttfs and had no luck
[09:14] <tid-wave> what should I do if i want to install kubuntu on a computer far far away without an internet connection(with mp3 support, binary drivers, and more software) ?
[09:14] <kosh> angasule: well Ijust know that it shows english, chinese, korean, japanese and other languages just fine
[09:14] <trispace> angasule: so you're experiencing font rendering problems?
[09:15] <angasule> trispace: I don't see IPA, they show up as squares (missing letters)
[09:15] <Phazeman> kosh: thanks much for your help. looks like my X problem is solved
[09:16] <kosh> I don't know anything about IPA
[09:16] <angasule> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA#Consonants_.28pulmonic.29  <-- can you see this correctly?
[09:16] <Phazeman> kosh: another question, which conf file sets the modules that will be loaded at startup ?
[09:16] <MrJangles> hey, any software to extract .rar ?
[09:16] <angasule> IPA is a script, might as well be cyrillic or anything else (although the diacritics may be a problem)
[09:17] <trispace> angasule: i see squares here, using Microsoft Verdana/Tahoma
[09:17] <kosh> Phazeman: it does not work that way
[09:17] <angasule> MrJangles: unrar
[09:17] <Phazeman> kosh: it used to be /etc/modules.conf once in mandriva
[09:17] <MrJangles> angasule: thanks
[09:17] <kosh> Phazeman: those are for modules not for general startup
[09:18] <Phazeman> kosh: thats why i've asked. i just want to verify that my nvidia module is registeredo to load at startup
[09:18] <Phazeman> kosh: thats all i need.. modules..
[09:18] <angasule> MrJangles: np, have you added the repositories, etc?
[09:18] <kosh> Phazeman: if it can be found it will be used on its own
[09:18] <angasule> !nvidia
[09:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:18] <kosh> Phazeman: no need for doing stuff manually
[09:18] <Phazeman> kosh: ohh.... great !
[09:18] <trispace> angasule: hmm, firefox renders the page correctly
[09:19] <Phazeman> kosh: thanks again !
[09:19] <angasule> trispace: yeap, it does, it's a gtk app
[09:19] <Phazeman> you gave me hope and the tools t achieve it :)))
[09:19] <trispace> angasule: ok, i see - so the problem lies in qt?
[09:19] <angasule> trispace: I think the problem is in how fonts are installed in kubuntu, more likely? maybe they're installed for gtk apps only?
[09:19] <angasule> is there no font-guy?
[09:20] <kosh> I guess it could be a qt issues I just have no idea
[09:20] <jpatrick> angasule: font's were discussed at the last meeting
[09:20] <angasule> yeah, qt has some ugly language issues, from what I've been told
[09:20] <angasule> jpatrick: can I see a log or something?
[09:21] <jpatrick> one sec
[09:21] <angasule> from what I've been told, qt has a *serious* problem with mixing right-to-left and left-to-right langs
[09:21] <jpatrick> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings/16-02-06
[09:21] <kosh> I have to admit it is has not been a problem for me
[09:21] <kosh> I only read english ::)
[09:22] <angasule> thanks
[09:22] <angasule> I study languages that don't exist :P
[09:22] <jpatrick> link to log is at the button
[09:22] <jpatrick> buttom*
[09:24] <angasule> hmm, I'm opening the log, but it seems mostly cosmetic issues were defined?
[09:25] <jpatrick> apokryphos: hey
[09:25] <apokryphos> jpatrick: hello and congratulations =)
[09:27] <jpatrick> apokryphos: thank you =)
[09:27] <jpatrick> angasule: Kubuntu meeting started at 08:58
[09:28] <angasule> jpatrick: umh, what do you mean with that? it's currently happening somewhere?
[09:28] <jpatrick> no, the log file
[09:28] <apokryphos> jpatrick: really great to see more kubu MOTUs -- one step closer to world domination ;-)
[09:29] <Snake__> Is there a meeting going on??
[09:29] <jpatrick> Snake__: next week
[09:29] <jpatrick> apokryphos: ;)
[09:29] <angasule> jpatrick: I read the log (well, I searched for font and read the lines around each occurence), there are only cosmetic issues
[09:30] <jpatrick> start from 08:58 and go down...
[09:30] <jpatrick> apokryphos: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings/16-02-06 ;)
[09:30] <angasule> jpatrick: I already saw that, but only font colour and size are addressed
[09:31] <Snake__> jpatrick: at the meeting, they didnt go over everything did they?
[09:31] <apokryphos> jpatrick: yup, was at the meeting 8), but couldn't be there for all of it
[09:31] <apokryphos> (read the log later)
[09:31] <jpatrick> Snake__: no, some people weren't there
[09:32] <Snake__> jpatrick: I didnt think so, that seemed like it went way to fast
[09:33] <Snake__> It was offly laid back, it was nice
[09:33] <jpatrick> yep
[09:33] <jpatrick> apart from some trouble maker
[09:33] <jpatrick> s/maker/makers
[09:34] <Snake__> jpatrick: yea....sorush or whatever that guy was
[09:34] <Snake__> I wanted to shootem
[09:34] <jpatrick> I wanted to kick me
[09:34] <jpatrick> him*
[09:34] <Snake__> heh
[09:34] <Snake__> Why didnt they boot him?
[09:34] <jpatrick> no op around
[09:35] <Snake__> oh..
[09:35] <angasule> jpatrick: thanks for that log, at least I know some of the names I should hunt for help
[09:36] <jpatrick> heh :)
[09:36] <angasule> Riddell: I'm gonna get you as soon as I get back! :P
[09:36] <apokryphos> for extra chans like -meeting they should really have things like *@ubuntu/member* in the access list
[09:37] <jpatrick> angasule: err.. he's head dev
[09:37] <angasule> I'm a chauffer :(
[09:37] <jpatrick> apokryphos: that's a good idea
[09:38] <angasule> at least my sister thinks so
[09:39] <angasule> I'll be back!
[09:39] <jpatrick> anyone got any package requests?
[09:40] <jshadow> whats the story on wlassistant for the repos?
[09:40] <apokryphos> jpatrick: checked the wiki request page?
[09:40] <jpatrick> does apps are boring :P
[09:40] <Snake__> jpatrick: everytime I request something, its already there:0
[09:40] <apokryphos> I'd get to some there too if I had any time :(
[09:41] <apokryphos> jpatrick: kautoclick might be fun to do
[09:42] <jpatrick> only NEW packages btw
[09:42] <apokryphos> yup
[09:42] <jshadow> jpatrick: is anyone working on wlassistant? or is that a no go?
[09:42] <jpatrick> sealne: don't underages go to school...
[09:43] <seaLne> forgot a /say
[09:43] <jpatrick> jshadow: I think that apps source is borked
[09:43] <seaLne> related to a conversation in another channel
[09:43] <jshadow> ohic
[09:44] <jshadow> works much better for me scanning anyhow, but I have some dhcp issues with some of the other apps too
[09:44] <jpatrick> apokryphos: what does this app do?
[09:45] <apokryphos> jpatrick: oh.. deKorator definitely. It's insanely popular on kde-apps/look
[09:45] <apokryphos> jpatrick: it's an autoclicker for kde. Small lil' app.
[09:45] <jpatrick> apokryphos: deKorator is in revu
[09:45] <apokryphos> oh ok; good stuff
[09:45] <apokryphos> mind you, I think it would be tres good if Kubu in general had a wide range of styles/themes/icons in the repos, too.
[09:46] <_david> hey, do you know if it is save/smart to run the klik installer from klik.atekon.de as root? (it's asking for that)
[09:46] <_david> or is there a better way to install klik on kubuntu?
[09:46] <jpatrick> _david: I won't
[09:46] <apokryphos> jpatrick: somewhat unrelated, but what really needs to be done is a libtunepimp in Universe.
[09:46] <jpatrick> _david: it's being packaged
[09:47] <SmrtJustin> How do I switch from a 24hr clock to a 12hr one in kde?
[09:47] <apokryphos> jpatrick: taskbar v2 is very popular too =)
[09:47] <_david> jpatrick: you mean for dapper, or for breezy?
[09:47] <jpatrick> i think that's already in
[09:47] <treyh0> is kubuntu going to ever use the suspend2 patch for the linux kernel?
[09:48] <_david> jpatrick: mm, it can't find it, should I look in the backports repo?
[09:48] <jpatrick> _david: was uploaded to dapper a few days ago
[09:48] <ubijtsa2> treyh0: suspend2 is quite invasive
[09:48] <apokryphos> jpatrick: unless it's called something totally different, it doesn't seem to be.
[09:49] <apokryphos> might be worth checking REVU though
[09:49] <jpatrick> unfortunatly NEW appears to stuck...
[09:49] <_david> owh, you mean it's already in dapper, ok thanks, than I will wait (running breezy)
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> hey what about packages list?
[09:49] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: what?
[09:49] <treyh0> ubijtsa2: why?
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm updated, and it said 687 upgradable, all packages: ~20.000
[09:50] <ubijtsa2> treyh0: it hooks in to a lot of things, that change frequently
[09:50] <treyh0> ubijtsa2: oh
[09:50] <treyh0> ubijtsa2: bummer, regular suspend to disk doesnt work for me :/
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> but in the morning
[09:50] <treyh0> swsusp
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> it isn't any upgradable thing and all apckages num is about: ~17k
[09:51] <ubijtsa2> treyh0: then there is iirc the issue about Linus not being keen on suspend2disk (if I understood the LKML postings right)
[09:52] <apokryphos> ricebowl icons finally released? Well well.
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> hey
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> go all and apt-get update
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> who has hundreds of upgradable package?:)
[09:55] <ubijtsa2> MetaMorfoziS: dapper ?
[09:56] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[09:56] <MetaMorfoziS> breezy
[09:57] <MetaMorfoziS> but in the morning i have no upgradable, and it said all packets 17k
[09:57] <MetaMorfoziS> at this time ~20k all packets and 0.6k upgradable:D
[10:00] <jpatrick> apokryphos: not sure if this untarred correctly....
[10:00] <apokryphos> jpatrick: hm?
[10:01] <jpatrick> apokryphos: Ark gave an error but never mind
[10:05] <Hostile> hey guys, I'm having trouble removing xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:05] <Hostile> apt-get is giving me a long error
[10:05] <inf3rno> hi all =) -- am fairly new to ubuntu, and have a quick question. (using kubuntu) -- i'm trying to get avi/wmv/other videos to play, and i've followed the faq's from the wiki regarding installing the various codecs. however, when i try to load any video file in Totem, i receive a message that says it cannot open the file for writing. i've seen an another faq that this means i am missing Esound, but apt-get says i have the lates
[10:06] <__mikem> hostile, pastebin the message and send me the link
[10:06] <Hostile> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/561652
[10:06] <Hostile> __mikem: ^_^
[10:08] <inf3rno> hi all =) -- am fairly new to ubuntu, and have a quick question. (using kubuntu) -- i'm trying to get avi/wmv/other videos to play, and i've followed the faq's from the wiki regarding installing the various codecs. however, when i try to load any video file in Totem, i receive a message that says it cannot open the file for writing. i've seen an another faq that this means i am missing Esound, but apt-get says i have the lates
[10:08] <inf3rno> err
[10:08] <inf3rno> oops. ;)
[10:08] <__mikem> do me a favor and start up synpatic package manager
[10:08] <__mikem> hostile
[10:08] <Hostile> __mikem: fire up synaptic?
[10:08] <__mikem> yes
[10:09] <robotgeek> Hostile: adept, it looks like __mikem is from the ubuntu world :)
[10:09] <Hostile> I dont have synaptic installed really
[10:09] <Hostile> ill fire up adept
[10:09] <__mikem> wait, are you in kubuntu
[10:09] <Hostile> Yes this is kinda the #kubuntu channel
[10:09] <__mikem> kde rather
[10:09] <Hostile> lol.
[10:09] <__mikem> o, then start up what ever package manager kde uses
[10:10] <__mikem> adept I think
[10:10] <Hostile> Yep
[10:10] <Hostile> fired it up.
[10:10] <__mikem> ok, I want you to do a global serch for the package you are trying to remove
[10:10] <Hostile> Ok i did
[10:11] <__mikem> did it come up
[10:11] <__mikem> in the results
[10:11] <Hostile> yep
[10:11] <__mikem> ok, good when you look at it, there should be some indication that it is installed already
[10:11] <Hostile> yep, status: installed
[10:12] <__mikem> good, I want you to go ahead and use adept to remove it. We will see if this works
[10:12] <Hostile> ok
[10:12] <Phazeman> trappist: here ?
[10:13] <Hostile> __mikem: same error I showed you on pastebin
[10:13] <Phazeman> i'm trying to fight my nvidia driver without any success. can someone please help ?
[10:13] <boha> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8443
[10:13] <boha> i get this on my screen when i boot live cd
[10:13] <boha> sameone help me
[10:13] <boha> plz
[10:13] <__mikem> Ouch, looks like you are going to have to remove it manually
[10:13] <Hostile> __mikem: can we do that?
[10:13] <__mikem> Yes
[10:14] <Hostile> __mikem: ok I've never removed a package manually before
[10:14] <Hostile> So I'm new to this
[10:14] <__mikem> Adept should list somewhere all the files included in the archive
[10:14] <apokryphos> __mikem: the Breezy one didn't, but the one for Dapper will.
[10:15] <apokryphos> in the meantime you can dpkg -L packagename
[10:15] <Hostile> ok adept just froze when I tryed to look at it
[10:15] <inf3rno> anyone know why i might be getting no/distorted sound when playing a .wmv file in totem vs perfect sound when playing an .avi? does it have entirely to do with how the file is encoded or is there  anything i can check on setting-wise?
[10:15] <Hostile> Im on Dapper.
[10:15] <apokryphos> why remove a package manually though?
[10:15] <__mikem> opokryphos he tried that
[10:15] <__mikem> hes getting an error
[10:15] <apokryphos> what error?
[10:15] <__mikem> hostile, back in the terminal did you use the -L commandline switch
[10:15] <Hostile> sure hold on
[10:15] <Cainus> anyone know how to get apt-get to find azureus?
[10:15] <__mikem> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/561652
[10:15] <apokryphos> inf3rno: have you installed the w32codecs?
[10:16] <inf3rno> apokryphos: aye
[10:16] <__mikem> apokryphos look at that pastebin
[10:16] <Hostile> root@ubuntu:/home/lanteau# dpkg -L xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:16] <Hostile> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10fglrx
[10:16] <apokryphos> Cainus: I'd say just install from their site -- they've got a plain executable there.
[10:16] <__mikem> thats what you used
[10:16] <SmrtJustin> This may sound stupid, but I'd like to set my system so it mounts everything in /mnt instead of /media, I know I have to change /etc/fstab, but how I change the auto usb stuff and everything else?
[10:16] <__mikem> ?
[10:16] <_alex> moin
[10:16] <Cainus> apokryphos: ah okay thanks
[10:16] <Hostile> __mikem: what?
[10:16] <inf3rno> Smrtjustin: what for... what are you trying to do?
[10:16] <apokryphos> try a sudo dpkg -f install
[10:17] <apokryphos> and/or sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:17] <__mikem> was dpkg -L xorg-driver-fglrx what you used
[10:17] <Hostile> __mikem: yes
[10:17] <SmrtJustin> inf3rno, I'm just used to it being like that, and I like to mount my shared music on my server to /media
[10:17] <__mikem> ok, that confirms my suspicions
[10:17] <boha> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8443
[10:17] <boha> i get this on my screen when i boot live cd
[10:17] <__mikem> so apokryphos says that on dapper you can view a list of all installed files for that package
[10:17] <boha> someone help me
[10:17] <inf3rno> apokryphos: i do have the w32 codecs installed from following the FAQ - there anything else i could tweak?
[10:18] <Hostile> __mikem: so it removed everything except that one file?
[10:18] <SmrtJustin> inf3rno: and for the time being I'm dualbooting between kubuntu and gentoo, and thats how my gentoo that I've been using for quite awhile is set up.
[10:18] <__mikem> What!
[10:18] <Hostile> I'm confused.
[10:18] <__mikem> Wait, removed everything accept what file
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> shit
[10:18] <apokryphos> inf3rno: not that I'd know of. I know the current codecs have problems with wmv 9 things....
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm upgrading
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> to unstalbe
[10:18] <Hostile> root@ubuntu:/home/lanteau# dpkg -L xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:18] <Hostile> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10fglrx
[10:18] <Hostile> that
[10:18] <apokryphos> __mikem: you really can't go around removing random files/folders. It's a recipe for disaster.
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm added the unstable debian repository
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> is it problem?
[10:19] <apokryphos> yes
[10:19] <__mikem> Not the entire folders
[10:19] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: ubuntu is not debian.
[10:19] <__mikem> just the package specific files
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> ftp.debian.org
[10:19] <__mikem> apokryphos ubuntu I believe is in its own right
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> unstable / main
[10:19] <Hostile> __mikem: so whats our next step?
[10:19] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: you can have many problems.
[10:19] <rikoto> hello...
[10:19] <__mikem> IF that files the only file left, just remove it manually or don't worry about it
[10:19] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't stop it?
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> it's adept
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> 61%
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> i think it's only downlaod at this step
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> the next is the isntall
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i stop it?
[10:20] <Hostile> __mikem: how do I tell dpkg its not installed anymore?
[10:21] <rikoto> i have a question about kbfx, if you don't mind
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm simple closed it..
[10:21] <Hostile> __mikem: actually When I delete that file, it's still there?
[10:21] <rikoto> ...nvm
[10:21] <__mikem> what do you mean tell dpkg its not installed nymore?
[10:22] <at1as> Hi all.
[10:22] <Hostile> __mikem: that the xorg-driver-fglrx package isnt installed anymore
[10:22] <__mikem> Good
[10:22] <at1as> Does anyone know anything about the Webmin packages in the Ubuntu repos?
[10:22] <__mikem> Hostile, I am not sure I understand, what exactly is wrong
[10:23] <Hostile> __mikem: well say we manually deleted all those files, but the database still tells apt-get or dpkg that the package is still installed
[10:24] <__mikem> adept should keep a database of all packages and their statuses, all you have to do is get a tool to edit the database
[10:24] <rikoto> (can anyone tell me where i can find the kbfx deb package?)
[10:25] <Hostile> __mikem: now do you have any experience setting up the fglrx drivers?
[10:25] <__mikem> No, fraid not, I was going to recomend you find someone to walk you through this when you went and tried it
[10:26] <Hostile> __mikem: I followed a tutorial on the ubuntu forms, but dont work
[10:26] <__mikem> Yes, I am sorry to say I told you everything I know how to do
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> what is xfce?
[10:26] <__mikem> a reasonably nice GUI for linux
[10:26] <__mikem> !xfce
[10:26] <ubotu> well, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[10:27] <Hostile> alright thanks
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> so not kde
[10:27] <__mikem> sorry
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> not gnome
[10:27] <__mikem> nope, its primarily for people who prefere performance and DO NOT care about appearence
[10:28] <__mikem> A question of my own, what is 9wm
[10:28] <inf3rno> should/would the Debian version of VLC media player (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) work with ubuntu/kubuntu?
[10:29] <SmrtJustin> I'm trying to get alsa working, I don't have artsd running, and I've started /etc/init.d/alsa-utils, but I can't get any audio
[10:30] <MetaMorfoziS> xfce very similar for gnome
[10:30] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/Adriano_Winter_Bess_xfce-4.2-rc3.jpg
[10:31] <MetaMorfoziS> what it's meaning?
[10:31] <apokryphos> SmrtJustin: no audio at all, or is it *very* low/faint (i.e. try turning speakers to max)
[10:31] <__mikem> MetamorfoziS it may look like its similar at first glanse, but its not
[10:31] <trispace> MetaMorfoziS: it is basically a window manager and some utilities like a task/program-launcher bar
[10:32] <SmrtJustin> apokryphos: I hear nothing
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> the kde have panel bar and other
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> and i think the gnome is the same..
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm dont understand it's meaning..
[10:32] <apokryphos> SmrtJustin: nothing is muted in alsamixer?
[10:33] <trispace> MetaMorfoziS: yeah, but xfce is a lighter aproach. It doesn't have all the features kde or gnome are offering
[10:33] <__mikem> brb
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, i understand... okay:)
[10:33] <SmrtJustin> apokryphos: nope, I just unmuted everything, including the Line stuff
[10:34] <trispace> MetaMorfoziS: as i said: it's a windowmanager, a taskbar, and a few utilities for font and theme configuration
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> yeyes
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i said okay, i'm udnerstand...
[10:35] <Phazeman> looks like kuickshow doesn't want to see my jpg files at all !!! this is the strangest thing i've ever seen in kubuntu ever ! coild someone please give me a clue about how to fix it ?
[10:35] <trispace> MetaMorfoziS: well
[10:35] <MetaMorfoziS> my english is bad sorry, i'm can't phrase me
[10:35] <MetaMorfoziS> well
[10:36] <SmrtJustin> apokryphos: when I run mplayer I get these lines: alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[10:36] <SmrtJustin> alsa: 44100 Hz/2 channels/4 bpf/60208 bytes buffer/Signed 16 bit Little Endian
[10:36] <SmrtJustin> AO: [alsa]  44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
[10:37] <__mikem> I have gnome, kde, and xfce installed on the same box, and I felt like switching from gnome to kde
[10:37] <MetaMorfoziS> :DD
[10:41] <FiNeX> hi
[10:41] <inf3rno> hrmmm... anyone know why i'd be getting perfect .wmv video in totem but very wretched audio... but perfect audio in VLC player w/ no video? any thoughts?
[10:41] <Phazeman> does any one else having problems with the kuickshow ?
[10:45] <__mikem> quiet in here
[10:46] <inf3rno> for anyone's reference, i fixed my wmv sound issue in totem by doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25668&highlight=wmv+bad+sound
[10:48] <mila> zuzttztz
[10:48] <Nomad411> yttgrretsssy?
[10:49] <mila> jfgggdfd
[10:49] <Nomad411> ok
[10:50] <angasule> Nomad411: do you know the nomad expert vision thingy?
[10:50] <__mikem> !wine
[10:51] <Nomad411> angasule: I wish
[10:51] <_tijn> hey all
[10:51] <angasule> http://www.microvision.com/nomadexpert/app.html <-- makes me drool
[10:51] <Nomad411> good thing is , using it, if you drool it won't mess it up
[10:51] <inf3rno> later folks!
[10:51] <Nomad411> as long as you're vertical
[10:52] <_tijn> dont drool on ur keyboard :D
[10:55] <_tijn> btw, what is a secure wireless solution?
[10:55] <NRG88> hi, i have a tv tuner card, how can i watch tv on linux?
[10:55] <_tijn> well..
[10:55] <_tijn> is it working?
[10:55] <_tijn> :)
[10:55] <NRG88> the card?
[10:56] <_tijn> well are the correct modules loaded?
[10:56] <NRG88> don't know how and wich modules to load
[10:56] <_tijn> mmh if you do a lspi
[10:56] <NRG88> i have a bt848 or what
[10:56] <_tijn> ah ok
[10:57] <_tijn> thats the linux tvcard module (if iam correct
[10:57] <_tijn> )
[10:57] <Hostile> I followed this tutorial to set up my fglrx drivers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111
[10:57] <Hostile> yet when X starts it says No screens found, fglrx module not found
[10:57] <Hostile> but modprobe fglrx shows its there
[10:57] <__mikem> every time I try to download the upgrade to wine, the connection keeps failing mid download
[10:57] <NRG88> sorry, bt878 (this is my card type)
[10:58] <_tijn> NRG88: if i recall correct, its OK :D try to install an app like tvtime
[10:58] <_tijn> sudo apt-get install tvtime
[10:58] <NRG88> ok, thanks
[10:58] <_tijn> np
[10:59] <_tijn> crappy info sry ;)
[11:01] <NRG88> strange, i get no signal
[11:02] <mila> ool
[11:02] <NRG88> had to disable signal detection :)
[11:04] <lunitik> Riddell: hey man, don't suppose you could hook up a kubuntu-desktop alternative that depends koffice instead of openoffice.org things? say 'kubuntu-desktop-koffice' or simular as the name, it would be very appreciated!
[11:06] <dani> Hi All! Why isn't there mp3 in kde audiocd ioslave? (kubuntu)
[11:06] <lunitik> Riddell: I just tryed removing kubuntu-desktop, I use debfoster to keep things clean on my system though, and well... it takes forever to get a decent list of keepers after removing the metapackage...
[11:06] <Blissex> dani: read the restricted binary formats page on the Wiki about MP3
[11:08] <dani> You mean it's intentional?
[11:08] <lunitik> dani: for legal reasons... yes
[11:08] <lunitik> dani: its easy to sort out though...
[11:08] <lunitik> dani: read the wiki on the subject as you were instructed
[11:09] <Blissex> ubotu
[11:09] <lunitik> ubotu: restrictedformats
[11:09] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:09] <lunitik> dani: click that link
[11:10] <dani> thanks, i was already there
[11:10] <Blissex> also, consider replacing MP3 with OGG Vorbis, the encoder has slightly better quality than most MP3 encoders.
[11:10] <murray> hey : whats the best gui client for interacting with a mysql db
[11:11] <lunitik> murray: with KDE frontend... Kexi
[11:11] <murray> ideally, I would like SQLyog, but it appears to be windows only
[11:11] <murray> lunitik: ta
[11:11] <lunitik> murray: could try to get that running via Wine?
[11:11] <dani> i red, i think there is no way to reenable mp3 support in audiocd ioslave :-\
[11:12] <murray> lunitik: wine is an option, but was wondering if there was anything native?
[11:12] <lunitik> murray: Kexi is the best I know of...
[11:13] <murray> lunitik: thanks :) one up on where I was 10 seconds ago then :)
[11:13] <lunitik> dani: should just be a case of installing libmad0 as it says  :/
[11:13] <lunitik> murray: :)
[11:13] <lunitik> murray: aptitude install kexi and see if it does what you need  :)
[11:13] <murray> lunitik: as we speak ...
[11:14] <lunitik> can't hurt to play  :)
[11:14] <murray> btw, and I know I'm going to look like a real nube ...
[11:14] <murray> is there a way to tell bitchx to prefix all msgs with "username: "
[11:14] <murray> or do I need to type it every time?
[11:14] <dani> lunitik, I installed libmad0 but no luck
[11:15] <dani> cdaudio:/ has no mp3
[11:15] <lunitik> murray: I don't know about bitchx, its pretty crap imo... but 'mur[tab] ' for instance should result in 'murray: '
[11:15] <lunitik> thats pretty standard really in the IRC world...
[11:15] <murray> lovely
[11:16] <murray> what is a better command line irc client these days?
[11:16] <murray> lunitik: even ...
[11:16] <lunitik> murray: irssi... its installed by default too  ;)
[11:17] <murray> lunitik: back in a sec then (hopefully) ...
[11:17] <lunitik> murray: irssi is very configurable  :)
[11:17] <murray> less colour, but seems faster ....
[11:18] <murray> configurable is great : an idiots howto/start guide would be fantastic ;)
[11:18] <murray> or, rtfm ...
[11:18] <lunitik> murray: you can actually change themes etc...
[11:19] <mila> hallo an alle die einen rasierten schwa*** haben...
[11:19] <lunitik> murray: www.irssi.org  ;)
[11:19] <lunitik> knock yourself out  :)
[11:19] <lunitik> !german
[11:19] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik
[11:19] <Nomad411> !de
[11:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:19] <Nomad411> :)
[11:19] <lunitik> I was close... thankyou  :)
[11:20] <Nomad411> packets of five.. lol
[11:20] <murray> danke
[11:20] <lunitik> Riddell: ping
[11:24] <mila> what the fuck you had a problem with germans????
[11:25] <lunitik> mila: umm, no... just kinda pointless blurting out a bunch of german in an English channel...
[11:41] <ryanakca> is there a repository for GIMP 2.2.10 without upgrading to dapper? or would it be a good idea to upgrade to dapper all-in-all?
[11:45] <llama32> i'm having trouble getting KDevelop's documentation working - i installed kdebase API doc and c-cpp-reference (which is made for KDevelop) but neither apear in the documentation panel
[11:46] <SmrtJustin> How hard would it be to change my mount points from /media to /mnt?
[11:48] <dyrne> SmrtJustin: just need to edit /etc/fstab to point to new dir and then make them
[11:48] <SmrtJustin> dyrne: tried that, but what about the automount stuff like USB drives and stuff?
[11:49] <llama32> SmrtJustin: why not just make /mnt a link to /media? it is simple to change fstab and move the mountpoints but im not sure how KDE and Gnome cope
[11:49] <ryanakca> is there a kubuntu breezy repository for GIMP 2.2.10?
[11:49] <SmrtJustin> llama32: I would, but I want to use /media to mount my music and video directories.
[11:51] <lunitik> ryanakca: try backports  :/
[11:51] <lunitik> llama32: they are for differen't things
[11:52] <lunitik> llama32: /media is for removable things, /mnt is for actual disks etc...
[11:52] <lunitik> llama32: as per FHS
[11:52] <ryanakca> lunitik: backports?
[11:52] <lunitik> Of course, by that accord, SmrtJustin is actually using it wrong, but thats ok
[11:52] <lunitik> !backports
[11:52] <ubotu> somebody said backports was Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:53] <lunitik> !botsnack
[11:53] <ubotu> :)
[11:53] <ryanakca> lunitik: thanks
[11:54] <lunitik> ryanakca: yw
[11:55] <ryanakca> lunitik: nope, not there
[11:56] <lunitik> ryanakca: its in dapper... wait a while?
[11:57] <ryanakca> meh...
[11:57] <lunitik> ryanakca: on a side note... dapper is pretty stable atm...
[11:57] <lunitik> and there's always krita *cough*
[11:58] <SmrtJustin> one other question, I want to use a font in konsole, and I can use it in KDE's appearance settings, but konsole doesn't see it, how do I get it to?
[12:02] <Snake__> lunitik: why cant you get koffice and open out of the repos?
[12:02] <lunitik> Snake__: you can, thats not what I said
[12:02] <Snake__> lunitik: Yea but why make a meta with both?
[12:03] <lunitik> Snake__: I want a metapackage that is like kubuntu-desktop, but doesn't include 2 openoffice.org packages, and instead depends koffice....
[12:03] <Snake__> Ah I see
[12:04] <lunitik> Snake__: something like ubuntu-desktop does with 'totem' would be good... ie depends a metapackage that lets you pick...