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aquarius | Is there any way of getting the upstream URLs for a bunch of packages without parsing them out of debian/copyright? I can't find any listed in packages or on Launchpad. | 01:51 |
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lifeless | uscan's data file | 01:52 |
aquarius | ah, nice. Didn't know about uscan. | 01:53 |
aquarius | How does the data file stay up to date? | 01:54 |
minghua | aquarius: debian/watch | 01:55 |
aquarius | ah, it doesn't have a data file per se, it uses debian/watch. Cool. | 01:55 |
aquarius | That's very useful. One other thing: if I wanted to read the watch files for all the packages in the archive, would I need to get the sources of all of them and look in debian/watch for all of them? | 01:56 |
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anibal | aquarius: not every package has a debian/watch file | 02:29 |
aquarius | anibal: yep, I'm just discovering that :) | 02:29 |
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anibal | aquarius: for package pbzip2 you could try http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/maintainer.php?name=pbzip2 to see the uscan information of package pbzip2 | 02:34 |
aquarius | anibal: ah, interesting | 02:37 |
aquarius | Would hitting that page once for every package be considered bad? | 02:38 |
anibal | aquarius: not at all | 02:39 |
anibal | aquarius: but, you could sleep a few seconds before between hits | 02:41 |
aquarius | anibal: oh, certainly I'd do that. :) | 02:41 |
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wasabi_ | So should python-uno be working? | 03:17 |
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ogra | Kamion, edubuntu daily 20060217.4 and daily-live 20060218 tested on all arches, all gold and ready for flight 4 | 04:31 |
ogra | Kamion, rsync for ubuntu daily 20060217.2 is running, will test these as soon as i got up ... | 04:33 |
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LaserJock | can apt handle checking for local installations (i.e. from a source tarball) of a package to satisfy deps? I imagine not but I though I'd ask | 05:17 |
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dabaR | Does anyone know why bob2 is never coming to freenode any more, or at least that he is fine and well? | 05:44 |
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zakame | hi devs :) | 06:58 |
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shadeofgrey | okay... | 07:50 |
shadeofgrey | i know im not supposed to be here | 07:50 |
shadeofgrey | but i have a gripe | 07:50 |
shadeofgrey | actually | 07:50 |
shadeofgrey | id rather take this opportunity to grovel | 07:50 |
shadeofgrey | would one of you cool, awesome, brilliant coder folks write like 3 lines of code and find a way to make either the abiword or the openoffice cursor a full square? | 07:51 |
shadeofgrey | im going blind gradually over tiume, and its now almost impoosible for me to work on my novels without spending hours re-editing huge portiohs of text because i canbt see the damn cursor | 07:51 |
shadeofgrey | im handicapped. i have one good arm, and four fingers on my lefty hand that work well enough to tuype with | 07:52 |
shadeofgrey | i now have glaucoma and will be blind in less than two years | 07:52 |
shadeofgrey | i REALLY need to hurry and get some stuff written before i cant see and have to stop and spend a year teaching my dumb ass braille | 07:52 |
Kyral | ... | 07:56 |
shadeofgrey | yeah its dumb | 07:57 |
shadeofgrey | i know | 07:57 |
Kyral | Come back sober yes? | 07:57 |
shadeofgrey | i am sober | 07:57 |
shadeofgrey | what, you think im kidding? | 07:57 |
Kyral | I could swear you said you were drunk in #ubuntu | 07:57 |
shadeofgrey | okay. | 07:57 |
shadeofgrey | whaztever | 07:57 |
shadeofgrey | why does the fact that i drink in any way belittle my perdicament? | 07:58 |
Kyral | no | 07:58 |
shadeofgrey | have i made a request you couldnt honestly fill? | 07:59 |
shadeofgrey | ive come here many times and thanked EVERYBODY here for what they do | 07:59 |
shadeofgrey | now im asking for legitimate help | 07:59 |
shadeofgrey | if i should be doing so in a different place, byu all means, shove me in thre right direction | 07:59 |
shadeofgrey | .....im on four wheels | 07:59 |
shadeofgrey | gravity and the laws of motion take care of most of it. all you need is a direction to send me | 08:00 |
shadeofgrey | 'are you important? | 08:00 |
shadeofgrey | do you make the decisions? | 08:00 |
shadeofgrey | is it a matter of money? | 08:00 |
shadeofgrey | id gladly make a $100 donation to the ubuntu team or whatever in exchange for a hand | 08:00 |
shadeofgrey | c'mon dude... SAY SOMETHING | 08:01 |
Kyral | Most of us are asleep | 08:01 |
Kyral | or going to | 08:01 |
shadeofgrey | okay | 08:01 |
shadeofgrey | whens a good time to come back and grovel | 08:01 |
Kyral | also...we don't control AbiWord | 08:01 |
shadeofgrey | fine | 08:01 |
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shadeofgrey | what text editor capable of handling 300 pages at a time has a cursor thats a square and has the ability to adjust its font size | 08:02 |
shadeofgrey | obviously.... the words have to be big or im .... shit out of luck. | 08:02 |
Kyral | Use a Screen Magnifier | 08:03 |
shadeofgrey | is thee one for ubuntu? | 08:04 |
Kyral | should be | 08:04 |
Kyral | I don't knwo | 08:04 |
Kyral | check | 08:04 |
Kyral | I'm going to bed before I faceplant on the keyboard | 08:05 |
shadeofgrey | ...thanks | 08:05 |
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Riddell | Kamion: kubuntu 20060217 live and 20060217.2 install good on all 3 architectures | 08:23 |
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Mithrandir | mjg59: I'm wondering if running ddcprobe while usplash is running is a bad idea. | 09:02 |
fabbione | Mithrandir: it probably is | 09:12 |
fabbione | iirc even with FB gives out bad results | 09:14 |
Mithrandir | it seems it's just the EDID info which goes bad, not the rest of the info. | 09:14 |
fabbione | Mithrandir: are you thinking about the livecd? | 09:18 |
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Mithrandir | fabbione: yeah | 09:20 |
fabbione | for livecd will do | 09:20 |
Mithrandir | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/31830/ | 09:20 |
Ubugtu | malone bug 31830 in xorg xserver-xorg "Incorrect screen resolution in Dapper LiveCD" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:20 |
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Chipzz | grmbl | 09:53 |
Chipzz | grub is fucked up since last update | 09:53 |
Chipzz | aaaaaaargh | 09:53 |
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sivang | Chipzz: there's a background image now , try to comment the splash line in your menu.lst and see if this works | 10:31 |
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mdke | elmo, can you resend the docteam svn password for Brian Burger (https://launchpad.net/people/yh728), he had lost his gnupg passphrase and had to make another key. | 10:40 |
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siretart | morning | 11:29 |
Kinnison | Morning | 11:33 |
siretart | hi Kinnison | 11:35 |
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Kinnison | hey siretart | 11:37 |
sivang | hi Kinnison , 'sup? | 11:38 |
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sivang | hey siretart | 11:39 |
siretart | hi sivang | 11:39 |
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Kinnison | erm, sivang | 11:43 |
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sivang | Kinnison: my poor kinnie, why so? | 11:43 |
Kinnison | tired because of poor nights sleep | 11:44 |
Kinnison | poor because of having to pay for more house-move related stuff | 11:45 |
sivang | Kinnison: ahhh I see. Didn't you find a bargain for the move over? | 11:45 |
Kinnison | well yes, but it's not 100% cheap to move | 11:46 |
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Kinnison | I still have to pay for things like a homebuyer's survey | 11:46 |
sivang | Kinnison: what is that?? | 11:46 |
pitti | hi | 11:46 |
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giftnudel | how can I debug the nm-applet from network-manager, it fails silently but I can't figure out why (DBUS_VERBOSE=1 doesnt't help) | 11:52 |
Kinnison | sivang: it's where someone investigates the house to check for damp, damage which isn't superficially obvious, etc | 11:53 |
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Kinnison | guys, we're one powerpc builder down until the sysadmins can get to and fix adare | 11:57 |
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mdke | is it worth filing a few bugs against gnome-power-manager for abnormal activity, or is it still early days and lots of problems are known? | 12:22 |
slomo_ | infinity, lamont: please give-back beagle on ppc | 12:23 |
jdub | mdke: bugs | 12:23 |
mdke | jdub, okey dokey | 12:23 |
mdke | jdub, are you in london already? | 12:24 |
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jdub | mdke: nah, arriving on monday | 12:42 |
Treenaks | jdub: do you ever stay in .au for longer than a week? :) | 12:43 |
jdub | Treenaks: ha ha, yeah :) | 12:45 |
ploum | Treenaks, I wonder if jdub ever stay in a given country for longer than a week | 12:46 |
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ploum | jdub, will you be at FOSDEM next saturday ? (or only sunday) | 12:46 |
Kinnison | mmm fosdem | 12:47 |
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jdub | ploum: yes, i will, and will come to your meeting :) | 12:47 |
jdub | Kinnison: you going to fosdem? | 12:47 |
Kinnison | jdub: natch | 12:47 |
jdub | awesome | 12:47 |
Kinnison | jdub: Will you be in the Roy on Friday night? | 12:47 |
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jdub | roy? | 12:48 |
ploum | (like samson) | 12:48 |
ploum | jdub, really great ! | 12:48 |
ploum | Thank you a lot | 12:48 |
jdub | ploum: so, a few people were concerned about that | 12:48 |
jdub | ploum: worrying if i would lose my unix mojo or something | 12:48 |
Kinnison | jdub: There's a pub where we often book out the top floor and drink lots of cherrybeer on the friday night | 12:48 |
ploum | it seems not.. | 12:48 |
jdub | ploum: but i think i'm the opposite | 12:48 |
Kamion | please let me know soon if you have anything you think should be in the Flight CD 4 release notes: high-impact changes or things that require widespread testing | 12:49 |
Kinnison | jdub: It's called the Roy d'Espagne | 12:49 |
jdub | Kinnison: will have to find it :) | 12:49 |
ploum | Kinnison, it's a great pub indeed | 12:49 |
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Kamion | I have nearly 2000 dapper-changes messages for that time period to sift through, and it's unlikely I'll get non-installer/liveCD things by myself | 12:50 |
jdub | Kamion: do you know if there's another flight review in the wiki? | 12:51 |
Kamion | jdub: yes | 12:51 |
jdub | Kamion: mihrt be worth referencing that for desktop stuff | 12:51 |
jdub | cool | 12:51 |
Kamion | already talked to mgalvin about that | 12:51 |
Kamion | (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4) | 12:51 |
jdub | maybe we should use those pages as the real release notes, and make the emails really short? :) | 12:51 |
Kamion | I think those pages are a bit *too* verbose for the "here's the installer/liveCD stuff we fixed that you would never have noticed through ordinary upgrades" stuff | 12:53 |
Kamion | but they work well as release notes for the rest of the system, certainly | 12:53 |
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Lathiat | hrm | 12:55 |
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Lathiat | as its not overly obvious | 12:55 |
jsgotangco | those can be used as release notes? | 01:02 |
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Kinnison | ciau | 01:04 |
=== jsgotangco actually started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes a few months ago | ||
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sladen | kent: | 01:20 |
sladen | keybuk: your ADSL is broken and the SOA timeout on your domain too short! | 01:21 |
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vovkav | hello everybody! Is there anybody who is absolutely happy with his (opensourced) source and bug -tracking system and it's glue? | 01:26 |
Treenaks | what do you mean? | 01:26 |
Lathiat | i guess hes asking for reocmmendations of an open source source/bug tracking software | 01:28 |
Lathiat | trac si the only one i know of | 01:28 |
Lathiat | it seems to work | 01:28 |
vovkav | Lathiat Treenaks: absolutely yes! | 01:28 |
Lathiat | tis a litle offtopic but :) | 01:29 |
Lathiat | hrm | 01:30 |
Lathiat | when we had that downtime | 01:30 |
Lathiat | did the data center move? | 01:30 |
Lathiat | i only get 50K/s from archive. and cdimage. now :( | 01:31 |
Lathiat | used to be able to get my full 150K/s | 01:31 |
HiddenWolf | archive is slow indeed | 01:36 |
HiddenWolf | oh, wait, pulling 323kB/s now | 01:36 |
HiddenWolf | Still, that used to be ~650 for me. | 01:36 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: ping | 02:14 |
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mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Hi | 02:17 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: Hi | 02:17 |
HiddenWolf | Do you mind if I bug you with a question? something seems to mess up suspend/hibernate here. | 02:18 |
mjg59 | Sure, go ahead | 02:18 |
HiddenWolf | I'm using a desktop system. nforce4-based, nvidia graphics card, nv drivers. I was trying to see if pressing the sleep/hibernate buttons would do something. | 02:19 |
mjg59 | Ok | 02:19 |
HiddenWolf | It seems the system jumps immediatly. The screen goes black and the power led starts blinkining. It does not save session, just wham. | 02:20 |
mjg59 | Suspend? That's correct. | 02:20 |
HiddenWolf | Same for hibernate. | 02:20 |
mjg59 | How are you triggering hibernate? | 02:21 |
mjg59 | Hibernation should not leave the power light flashing | 02:21 |
HiddenWolf | panel > log out dialogue > hibernate | 02:21 |
mjg59 | I've absolutely no clue what the panel stuff does | 02:22 |
mjg59 | Can you try using gnome-power-manager instead? | 02:22 |
HiddenWolf | how do I trigger that one? | 02:23 |
mjg59 | Ah. With some trouble. | 02:23 |
mjg59 | Nngh. | 02:23 |
mjg59 | Ok. From a shell, do /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh ? | 02:23 |
mjg59 | (with sudo) | 02:23 |
HiddenWolf | here goes | 02:24 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: back, not succesful | 02:27 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: I should've piped the output to a file, but there where some errors in there. | 02:28 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: "Not succesful" in what way? | 02:28 |
HiddenWolf | power buttons stayed on, some activity, screen suspended, had to reset to wake up. | 02:29 |
HiddenWolf | button -> led | 02:29 |
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mjg59 | Edit /etc/default/acpi-support and change the DPMS statement to false | 02:30 |
HiddenWolf | and then try again. :) | 02:32 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Yup | 02:32 |
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HiddenWolf | what was that script again? it didn't save my bash history | 02:33 |
Treenaks | 14:23 < mjg59> Ok. From a shell, do /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh ? | 02:34 |
Treenaks | ?# | 02:34 |
HiddenWolf | huh, now it comes back on automatically | 02:36 |
HiddenWolf | quite a few errors in there. | 02:37 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8814 | 02:39 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: mkswap /dev/whatever; swapon -a | 02:41 |
mjg59 | Then try again | 02:41 |
HiddenWolf | that is with "computer sleep type suspend" btw | 02:41 |
mjg59 | That doesn't affect this | 02:42 |
HiddenWolf | /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap none swap sw 0 0 | 02:42 |
HiddenWolf | that's the default lvm swap setup | 02:42 |
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HiddenWolf | on sata / lvm | 02:42 |
mjg59 | Oh. I wonder how well tested this is for LVM swap. | 02:43 |
mjg59 | In any case - have you mkswapped? | 02:43 |
HiddenWolf | not yet. | 02:43 |
HiddenWolf | hidde@megaera:~$ sudo mkswap /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap; swapon -a | 02:44 |
HiddenWolf | Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 2147479 kB | 02:44 |
HiddenWolf | no label, UUID=8c5e7412-eac1-43f5-a835-5cb76441b539 | 02:44 |
HiddenWolf | swapon: /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap: Operation not permitted | 02:44 |
mjg59 | sudo swapon -a | 02:45 |
HiddenWolf | no error now. | 02:46 |
mjg59 | Right. Now try hibernating. | 02:47 |
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HiddenWolf | apparantly succesful shutdown, apparantly normal boot sequence | 02:52 |
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mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Ok. What does RESUME equal in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf ? | 02:53 |
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mjg59 | (You'll need to mkinitramfs and swapon again) | 02:53 |
HiddenWolf | #RESUME= | 02:54 |
HiddenWolf | nothing there | 02:54 |
mjg59 | Change it to RESUME=/dev/whatever | 02:54 |
mjg59 | And get rid of the comment character | 02:54 |
mjg59 | Then rebuild your initramfs | 02:54 |
HiddenWolf | where should it go to? | 02:56 |
mjg59 | ? | 02:58 |
HiddenWolf | I've never done mkinitramfs, and it's asking for an ouput location. :) | 02:58 |
mjg59 | Oh | 02:58 |
mjg59 | Just do update-initramfs -u | 02:58 |
HiddenWolf | swap is on again. | 03:00 |
HiddenWolf | hibernating again | 03:03 |
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HWolf | came back up, got to an X session. No keyboard/mouse | 03:07 |
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jsgotangco | mmm?? | 03:08 |
HiddenWolf | jsgotangco: I'm trying for a working suspend/hibernate | 03:09 |
jsgotangco | ahhh | 03:09 |
jsgotangco | i should disable my nvidia to try that too | 03:09 |
HiddenWolf | and using up mjg59's saturday doing it. :) | 03:09 |
HiddenWolf | Which is actually pretty stupid on my part, since grub is fucked up. :P | 03:10 |
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HiddenWolf | I can't get to rescue mode if things crap out. | 03:10 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: So it resumed, but stuff was broken? | 03:10 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: yeah, my x/session/windows where back | 03:11 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: mouse was on the position I left it. | 03:11 |
HiddenWolf | keyboard and mouse did not respond however. | 03:11 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: USB keyboard? | 03:11 |
HiddenWolf | yes, mouse too. | 03:11 |
mjg59 | Ok | 03:11 |
mjg59 | Edit /etc/acpi/prepare.sh and comment out the block that starts "Now do something similar for USB" | 03:12 |
HiddenWolf | check | 03:13 |
mjg59 | Should work now | 03:13 |
HiddenWolf | Hm. | 03:14 |
HiddenWolf | without the mkswap swapon stuff? :) | 03:14 |
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mjg59 | Without, yeah | 03:16 |
HiddenWolf | I'll give it a shot | 03:16 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: that did it. Ain't pretty, but it works | 03:19 |
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HiddenWolf | grub messed up, no usplash, screen corruption before turning to normal, but it works. | 03:21 |
jbailey | mjg59: Hmm. Reminds me that I should file bugs about my laptop (Toshiba) suspending and not resuming. | 03:22 |
mjg59 | "grub messed up"? | 03:22 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: something went wrong with the grub splash image update. | 03:23 |
Chipzz | sivang: I'm aware of that; grub just doesn't work at all atm :/ | 03:23 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: text unreadable, and blotches of color on the screen. no working option selection. | 03:23 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Ok, not my fault | 03:23 |
Chipzz | no menu, no booting ubuntu, no booting windows, no nothing :( | 03:23 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: I know. :) | 03:23 |
zakame | hi devs | 03:24 |
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mjg59 | Lathiat: If you pull latest git, your battery ought to be fixed | 03:27 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: thank you for your help. | 03:37 |
mjg59 | No problem | 03:37 |
HiddenWolf | Good to see that it works, altho with a bit of hackery. | 03:38 |
mjg59 | I've just uploaded the USB fix. The lack of RESUME= is because you're tracking dapper and it got broken. | 03:40 |
HiddenWolf | So I can remove the comment chars from the file. | 03:40 |
mjg59 | Just upgrade to the latest acpi-support once it gets built | 03:41 |
HiddenWolf | I'll do that. | 03:42 |
HiddenWolf | who should I talk to for the grub thing? keybuk? | 03:43 |
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sladen | mjg59: on the TP, it's doing suspend, then on resume it immediately suspends (second resume is fine) | 03:57 |
mjg59 | sladen: What is? | 04:00 |
mjg59 | (How are you triggering suspend?) | 04:00 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59, you should really talk to lmanul and seb and make sure that the logout dialogue does the same thing as g-p-m and the system menu. :) | 04:02 |
lmanul | HiddenWolf: can I help ? :) | 04:02 |
HiddenWolf | lmanul: ;) | 04:03 |
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lmanul | What the logout dialog does for suspend (for example) is basically call gdm_set_logout_action (GDM_LOGOUT_ACTION_SUSPEND); | 04:04 |
mjg59 | lmanul: The logout dialog needs to avoid showing the sleep option unless sleep is enabled | 04:06 |
HiddenWolf | And sleep should really be called suspend, imho | 04:07 |
HiddenWolf | it is everywhere else. | 04:07 |
lmanul | That's what it does :) | 04:07 |
mjg59 | lmanul: How does it determine whether sleep is enabled? | 04:08 |
lmanul | suspend_supported = gdm_supports_logout_action (GDM_LOGOUT_ACTION_SUSPEND); | 04:08 |
mjg59 | Oh | 04:08 |
mjg59 | No, that's not going to work | 04:08 |
lmanul | What should be used instead ? | 04:08 |
mjg59 | hal | 04:08 |
lmanul | (that was in the previous code, by the way) | 04:08 |
mjg59 | It also needs to talk to gpm | 04:08 |
mjg59 | Yeah, we're in a brave new world now :) | 04:09 |
lmanul | Hmm, I'm not very familiar with thos :) | 04:09 |
lmanul | those | 04:09 |
lmanul | I might break something :-p | 04:09 |
lmanul | Is there a standard, easy to use procedure ? | 04:09 |
mjg59 | Not to hand | 04:09 |
mjg59 | This needs to be integrated with g-p-m to determine whether the user has enabled sleep or not | 04:10 |
lmanul | Huh, "easy to use" = I mean "easy to copy-paste" :-p | 04:10 |
lmanul | Hmm, I see | 04:10 |
HiddenWolf | If the user has set 'hibernate' in gpm, it should only offer hibernate. | 04:10 |
HiddenWolf | I guess | 04:10 |
lmanul | Well, I guess I'm not going to do this myself (I don't know much about hal or gpm) | 04:10 |
lmanul | But I'll speak to seb128 about this | 04:11 |
siretart | BenC: I notice you closed bug 30962, but I see this problem still in 2.6.15-15.21 | 04:12 |
Ubugtu | malone bug 30962 in wine "Running wine applications instantly outputs "Killed." in the terminal" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30962 | 04:12 |
siretart | BenC: do I miss something? | 04:12 |
BenC | siretart: No, I set it to "Fix committed" | 04:12 |
siretart | aah, ok. I see | 04:13 |
BenC | uploading today I hope | 04:13 |
siretart | no problem | 04:13 |
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ogra | Kamion, ubuntu daily 20060217.2 install all arches are good | 04:15 |
BenC | is there "one true" place to set http proxy so all or most things use it? | 04:17 |
BenC | like macosx does :) | 04:17 |
jdub | BenC: no | 04:17 |
maswan | elmo, Znarl: is it intentional that *.releases.u.c (including se) is pointing to releases.u.c which has no ACC IPs? | 04:18 |
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fabbione | hey BenC | 04:18 |
BenC | that sucks...we should enable some kind of quick and dirty ip rules to do that | 04:18 |
BenC | fabbione: hey | 04:18 |
fabbione | BenC: please please please pull from me before uploading | 04:18 |
BenC | I did a pull yesterday | 04:18 |
BenC | is there anything new? | 04:18 |
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fabbione | you didn't push to kernel.org? | 04:18 |
fabbione | BenC: there was a RH cluster update | 04:19 |
BenC | I pushed | 04:19 |
BenC | maybe I missed some revs | 04:19 |
jdub | fabbione: do you do much with the linu ha project? | 04:19 |
BenC | oh wait, I git-fetched, but I forget to git-pull from the branch :) | 04:19 |
fabbione | BenC: hehe | 04:20 |
fabbione | jdub: i work a lot with the RH guys.. | 04:20 |
jdub | hmm | 04:20 |
fabbione | BenC: i also pushed a niagara branch on people. It should be ready for merge by monday | 04:25 |
fabbione | BenC: i have a couple of fixes to push to David | 04:25 |
BenC | sweet | 04:25 |
fabbione | BenC: and we got to userland this night | 04:25 |
BenC | I have to get my e3k booted so I can do a test build with it | 04:25 |
fabbione | but it's kind of *cough*UNSTABLE*cough* | 04:25 |
maswan | hmm.. I wonder if a niagara would make a decent archive server frontend | 04:25 |
BenC | we'll try for niagra merge for next upload | 04:25 |
fabbione | BenC: yeah i am planning to work with David across the weekend | 04:26 |
fabbione | i didn't find any regression on the kernel | 04:26 |
BenC | fabbione: pulled/merged/pushing | 04:26 |
fabbione | so whatever breaks is SUN4V specific | 04:26 |
fabbione | BenC: thanks mate | 04:26 |
fabbione | maswan: http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/cgi-bin/blog.cgi/index.html | 04:26 |
fabbione | [ 9.389691] Brought up 32 CPUs | 04:27 |
fabbione | that's better than porn | 04:27 |
fabbione | and porn > * | 04:27 |
lmanul | fabbione: now that's questionnable :) | 04:28 |
siretart | emacs python mode rocks | 04:28 |
fabbione | lmanul: well of course... porn > 32 CPUs > * ;) | 04:28 |
sladen | mjg59: fn-f4 | 04:29 |
jsgotangco | damn sunfire with 32cpus | 04:29 |
fabbione | jsgotangco: it's one CPU | 04:30 |
fabbione | 8 cores | 04:30 |
fabbione | 4 threads x core | 04:30 |
fabbione | it's like 32CPUS | 04:30 |
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fabbione | except that it consumes less than a light bulb | 04:30 |
maswan | fabbione: neat. that'd make a good frontend to a backend nas thingie, I tihnk. too bad it is not relevant for work, due to lack of fpu. | 04:30 |
fabbione | cpu : UltraSparc T1 (Niagara) | 04:30 |
fabbione | fpu : UltraSparc T1 integrated FPU | 04:30 |
maswan | fabbione: well, yeah, one. | 04:31 |
fabbione | it's still ONE cpu :) | 04:31 |
maswan | my point is, that it is way underpowered fpu-wise | 04:31 |
fabbione | yes i agree | 04:31 |
maswan | for technical computational workloads | 04:32 |
fabbione | it's still a nice toy for frontends | 04:32 |
maswan | but for running apache, it's probably pretty neat. :) | 04:32 |
fabbione | yeah exactly | 04:32 |
BenC | I think it's mainly meant for server virtualization | 04:32 |
BenC | the Solaris port for it allows you to use a UI to drag and drap components from one virtual server to another | 04:32 |
fabbione | i still wnat one... or two :) | 04:33 |
maswan | now, if each of those cores had done at least one FMA per cycle, or even better, each of those threads... | 04:33 |
mjg59 | sladen: With g-p-m? | 04:33 |
BenC | Like "Drag the database from Node1 to Node2", "Upgrade Node1 for security patches, reboot", "Drag database back to Node1" | 04:33 |
maswan | BenC: neat | 04:33 |
sladen | mjg59: from X, just do Fn-F4 which I guess is handled by your acpi-support packages so g-p-m shouldn't be involved? | 04:34 |
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mjg59 | sladen: No, it should all go through g-p-m now | 04:34 |
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HiddenWolf | it takes like a full minute to download 27 mails, put them in the relevant folders, and update the bold folder names. | 04:38 |
sladen | mjg59: yup, it is | 04:39 |
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BenC | HiddenWolf: mine's not that slow | 04:57 |
HiddenWolf | BenC: I can clock it. :/ | 04:57 |
BenC | pop3 to local folders, and I have like 30k emails in 20 folders | 04:58 |
BenC | one folder has > 10k | 04:58 |
HiddenWolf | BenC: I'm using an imap server off-continent, but any other client is still substancially faster. | 04:58 |
HiddenWolf | The email comes in fast enough. | 04:58 |
BenC | HiddenWolf: still didn't seem that slow when I was doing imap over my sat connection | 04:59 |
BenC | and that is _high_ latency | 04:59 |
HiddenWolf | It just takes ages to get it from inbox to the folders. | 04:59 |
fabbione | BenC: you won't believe it.. i figured why my machine has been slow to death since .15 something... | 04:59 |
BenC | well, when I was doing imap I had fetchmail on the remote putting things in folders | 04:59 |
BenC | fabbione: the amd64? | 04:59 |
fabbione | BenC: DMA is not enabled on any of the disks.. it was with .12 tho... | 04:59 |
fabbione | BenC: yes | 04:59 |
fabbione | BenC: it does the same on i386 kernels | 04:59 |
BenC | fabbione: odd | 04:59 |
BenC | can you enable dma by default? | 05:00 |
BenC | err, enable it manually | 05:00 |
fabbione | BenC: i did try using hdparm but it refuses.. | 05:00 |
fabbione | on .15 .. | 05:00 |
fabbione | with i386 kernel | 05:00 |
BenC | what IDE controller? | 05:00 |
fabbione | i didn't test amd64 yet.. | 05:00 |
fabbione | a bunch of them... | 05:00 |
BenC | and can you blacklist ide-generic and see if that helps? | 05:00 |
fabbione | hole on... | 05:00 |
fabbione | hold on | 05:00 |
fabbione | BenC: yes i can.. i figured 3 minutes ago | 05:01 |
fabbione | and i can't exactly reboot at the moment | 05:01 |
BenC | ok, I'd be really interested in knowing if that helps..I've heard rumors similar to your performance problems | 05:01 |
fabbione | 0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) | 05:02 |
fabbione | i think the controller is this one | 05:02 |
BenC | and I've also had atleast one issue where ide-generic is getting loaded when it shouldn't | 05:02 |
fabbione | i have something like 10 disks in this machines on different controllers.. | 05:02 |
BenC | does dmesg show ide-via taking control of those disks? | 05:02 |
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fabbione | i am not sure... | 05:03 |
BenC | seems not even the ACPI update required ABI bump, so that's good | 05:04 |
fabbione | even kern.log doesn't have all of it | 05:04 |
fabbione | Feb 17 13:08:02 gordian kernel: [4294678.334000] VP_IDE: port 0x01f0 already claimed by ide0 | 05:04 |
fabbione | Feb 17 13:08:02 gordian kernel: [4294678.334000] VP_IDE: port 0x0170 already claimed by ide1 | 05:04 |
fabbione | probably this one | 05:04 |
fabbione | the kernel buffer is too short for this box | 05:04 |
BenC | yeah, looks like ide-generic took it :/ | 05:04 |
BenC | fabbione: dmesg -s70000 | 05:05 |
fabbione | no problem.. i can test after i finish the last test build for niagara .15 | 05:05 |
BenC | default dmesg buffer is too short | 05:05 |
fabbione | i did look at kern.log | 05:05 |
BenC | ah, ok | 05:05 |
fabbione | same story | 05:05 |
fabbione | Feb 17 13:08:02 gordian kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. | 05:06 |
fabbione | Feb 17 13:08:02 gordian kernel: ors (120034 MB) | 05:06 |
fabbione | Feb 17 13:08:02 gordian kernel: [4294672.993000] SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back | 05:06 |
fabbione | this is the first useful thing i get in kern.log | 05:06 |
BenC | I still think that's a udev issue, but according to one report I have "ide-generic only gets loaded if the rootfs isn't found after loading other ide modules" | 05:06 |
fabbione | i think i overexagerated with hw on this box | 05:06 |
BenC | but that conflicts with what I see on your system | 05:06 |
fabbione | yes.. i will try and let you know by tomorrow | 05:06 |
fabbione | or later | 05:07 |
BenC | ok | 05:07 |
fabbione | but if it is ide-module.... | 05:08 |
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BenC | lol | 05:08 |
fabbione | somebody will wake up with a dead horse head in the bed... | 05:08 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: ping | 05:51 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Hi | 05:51 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: since that resume magic, my mouse seems to sometimes give two events when clicking, instead of one | 05:52 |
HiddenWolf | or rather, sometimes I get a doubleclick result for the price of a single click | 05:53 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: No idea, I'm afraid | 05:53 |
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HiddenWolf | Treenaks: nforce4-based crap. :) | 05:55 |
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ploum_ | what is this "I want a pony" on the fridge ? | 06:02 |
ploum_ | (It's quite funny but I don't really understand :-) ) | 06:03 |
jpatrick | ploum_: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/no-pony-for-you.jpg ;) | 06:07 |
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ploum_ | jpatrick, but why ? | 06:09 |
jpatrick | no idea | 06:09 |
ploum_ | I waaaaant a ponyyyyyyyyy ! | 06:09 |
ploum_ | (or at least a swallow) | 06:10 |
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HiddenWolf | mjg59: again, Hi. I had some trouble modprobing modules after my hibernate-adventure. | 06:22 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: udev loads the wrong driver for my tv-card, usually a modprobe -r modprobe set of commands fixes that. This time I had to reboot to make the kernel listen. | 06:26 |
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siretart | mjg59: your're my hero. acpi-support 0.59 seems to fix my usb resuming problems (bug 29634). I wonder how unloading and reload usb modules can be harmful | 06:40 |
Ubugtu | malone bug 29634 in linux-source-2.6.15 "usb dead after hibernate/resume on Thinkpad R40-2772-B3G" [Normal,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29634 | 06:40 |
siretart | is the version number coincidence with your nick? ;) | 06:40 |
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HiddenWolf | siretart: probably a kernel fighting with acpi problem. :P | 06:49 |
mjg59 | HiddenWolf: Almost certainly not my bug | 06:49 |
HiddenWolf | no, I should spank keybuk. ;) | 06:50 |
HiddenWolf | mjg59: but it behaves differently after reboot than on resume | 06:50 |
HiddenWolf | that is odd | 06:50 |
Treenaks | HiddenWolf: did you upgrade your kernel between tries? :) | 06:50 |
HiddenWolf | Treenaks: no | 06:50 |
somervil | im getting "Software lockup detected on CPU#0" while Enterprise Volume Management is attempting to start. Im running latest dapper. This happens with 2.6.15 i386;i686, and 2.6.14 on a Dell inspiron 8600 (pentium M)... anyone seen similar ? | 06:51 |
somervil | ...erm not sure if this question belongs here or in #ubuntu... | 06:53 |
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Kyral | Kamion: Mind if I help with the Espresso docs? | 07:30 |
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simira | I try here, since #ubuntu seems to be of no help | 07:42 |
simira | can someone help me make java work with Opera in Ubuntu? | 07:42 |
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sebest | is it just me or the top right menu is broken on http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ with firefox? | 08:04 |
HiddenWolf | it is, and has been for a while | 08:05 |
Treenaks | works fine for me | 08:05 |
HiddenWolf | jdub: ^^^ | 08:05 |
Treenaks | (Upcoming Events, right?) | 08:06 |
HiddenWolf | Treenaks: main menu button bar is at the bottom of the screen for me. | 08:06 |
Treenaks | oh the TABS | 08:06 |
Treenaks | :P | 08:06 |
sebest | the tabs yes | 08:06 |
HiddenWolf | Around Breezy at 2Gbit/s | 08:06 |
sebest | for me it always stay at the bottom of the page | 08:07 |
sebest | when i resize the page, but not when i scroll | 08:07 |
HiddenWolf | for me it is around the height of the card picture, and stays there. | 08:07 |
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Hieronymus | My wireless network card doesn't work anymore in dapper. (It worked with 5.10) on what package should I file a bug? | 08:25 |
Kyral | what kind of card | 08:26 |
Kyral | wait..I thought I was in #ubuntu | 08:26 |
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LaserJock | doko: ping? | 09:08 |
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mae | is gnome 2.14 going to make it into dapper? | 11:03 |
Kinnison | by definition, yes | 11:04 |
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mae | neat :) | 11:11 |
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Kamion | ogra: thanks! | 11:21 |
Kamion | Kyral: sure, there aren't any at the moment ;-) | 11:21 |
Kamion | Kyral: happy to take patches as bzr branches from http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/espresso/ubuntu/, or if you want to do it independently, whatever | 11:22 |
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Lathiat | mjg59: oh, cool | 11:33 |
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Kamion | Kyral: (and unfortunately I have pretty much no time to work on any, but I think I mentioned that before, so help is good) | 11:35 |
LaserJock | who do I need to contact to get a package moved from multiverse to universe? | 11:41 |
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LaserJock | Kamion: can you change the repo for a package? or elmo? | 11:48 |
tepsipakki | argh, firefox is killin me... when you scroll the mousewheel rapidly, it goes to a previous/next page depending on the direction | 11:48 |
tepsipakki | +g | 11:48 |
tepsipakki | since when has it done this? | 11:48 |
Kamion | LaserJock: I can - what's the package, and why? | 11:48 |
Kamion | (BTW the term is "component") | 11:48 |
LaserJock | Kamion: sorry for the lack of proper terminology. ggobi was moved from non-free to main in Debian a while ago because it was relicenses under GPL. It should be moved from multiverse to universe I belive. | 11:53 |
LaserJock | Kamion: see http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/ggobi/news/5.html for instance | 11:54 |
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Seveas | Kamion, has the CC already picked a date and time for the next meeting? | 12:01 |
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