| mdke_ | Kyral, no offense but I already told you twice that there are. | 12:04 |
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| mdke_ | espresso-ubuntu-doc - Ubuntu documentation and help files for Espresso live installer | 12:04 |
| mdke_ | espresso-guadalinex-doc - Guadalinex documentation and help files for Espresso live installer | 12:05 |
| mdke_ | i haven't taken a look yet | 12:06 |
| mdke_ | but it's a vital starting point, in any case | 12:07 |
| Kyral | mdke_: Its been hectic recently for me, sorry | 12:07 |
| mdke_ | np | 12:09 |
| mdke_ | Kyral, you would want to talk to Kamion about the installer/installer docs, he has been working on those | 12:10 |
| Kyral | Yah I spoke to him earlier about it | 12:10 |
| mdke_ | good stuff | 12:11 |
| mdke_ | he didn't mention those docs?? | 12:11 |
| Kyral | I dunno if I told him I was the guy from the DocTeam that would be writing the Documentation though lol | 12:11 |
| mdke_ | well, anyone is welcome to work on documentation | 12:12 |
| mdke_ | probably the source for that is in a bzr repo of his | 12:12 |
| mdke_ | no doubt he'll welcome patches :) | 12:12 |
| Kyral | Yuah...but I think I put my name on the list didn't I? | 12:12 |
| mdke_ | Kyral, dude, this is open source, anyone can contribute. If patches are good, I'm sure Colin will apply them | 12:13 |
| Kyral | I know, I just meant I'm "responsible", know what I'm trying to say? | 12:14 |
| mdke_ | no | 12:14 |
| mdke_ | Colin is responsible, he'll merge the code | 12:14 |
| mdke_ | in regard of that package, anyhow | 12:14 |
| mdke_ | i'm sure he'll accept patches | 12:15 |
| Kyral | I didn't mean for the Installer itself. I meant Installing Ubuntu thing | 12:15 |
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| mdke_ | i'm talking about the docs for the installer, I don't know what form it is in | 12:16 |
| mdke_ | we'll have to install that package and find out | 12:17 |
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| dsas | Does anyone think it's worth linking to "dive into python" from the Programming section of the desktop guide? | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | dsas, yep | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | foolish not to use an exisiting resource | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | also promote python heavily | 12:34 |
| Burgwork | mark's vision of python on Ubunt is much like VB on Windows, the everywhere glue language | 12:34 |
| dsas | that's what I thought, looking for a tutorial on gtk-python somewhere on the net too... | 12:35 |
| dsas | or pygtk even | 12:35 |
| mpt__ | http://pygtk.org/tutorial.html | 12:36 |
| dsas | I'm just looking at that now.. | 12:36 |
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| === dsas that tutorial is apt-gettable too :) | ||
| dsas | is there a particular tool people use for editing docbook, or is it just a case of using an editor | 12:45 |
| Burgwork | dsas, I use gedit | 12:46 |
| dsas | I thought that that was what is was a case of....I've been using vim up to now, but wasn't sure if there was anything "better" out there. | 12:47 |
| Burgwork | I have heard that vim/emacs have some nice plugins | 12:48 |
| dsas | i'll give those a try sometime then.. | 12:50 |
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| Kyral | the Emacs plugin is just a general plugin for SGML type markup (which Docbook is) | 01:21 |
| Kyral | </late> | 01:21 |
| dsas | I was more into the idea of the vim one tbh...I'm not an emacs fan. | 01:23 |
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| mdke | morning | 10:12 |
| Madpilot | hi | 10:12 |
| mdke | Madpilot, so the <procedure><step> stuff isn't too bad? perhaps we should do it | 10:12 |
| Madpilot | you saw my email to the list? | 10:13 |
| mdke | not yet | 10:13 |
| mdke | just yesterday in here | 10:13 |
| mdke | ah i see :( | 10:14 |
| Madpilot | it looks OK, but it seems to slow Yelp's loading down even further - and common-tasks.xml is currently non-valid | 10:14 |
| mdke | someone went ahead and converted it? | 10:14 |
| Madpilot | yeah, haven't reviewed the commit email to see who - jjesse maybe | 10:15 |
| mdke | unlikely | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | Author: jeffsch | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | Date: Sat Feb 18 00:18:32 2006 | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | New Revision: 2440 | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | Modified: | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | trunk/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks.xml | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | Log: | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | replaced itemizedlist and listitem tags with procedure and step tags | 10:16 |
| Madpilot | ...and he must not have run the validation script... | 10:16 |
| mdke | gah | 10:16 |
| mdke | i think i would have preferred him to wait for us to discuss it, but hey, we can always revert if it is bumming stuff up | 10:17 |
| Madpilot | I won't paste the /.validate script errors, it's several terminal screens long | 10:17 |
| mdke | i'll chec it out now | 10:18 |
| mdke | desktopguide.xml validates ok | 10:18 |
| mdke | he says, without svn upping | 10:18 |
| Madpilot | rev 2440 is current | 10:18 |
| mdke | ok i get this: http://pastebin.com/560823 | 10:19 |
| Madpilot | that looks like what I get | 10:19 |
| Madpilot | see my email - it does work in Yelp, but seems slower | 10:20 |
| mdke | hmm | 10:21 |
| mdke | i'm bad at judging speed | 10:21 |
| mdke | hopefully jeffsch will reply and tell us what he is up to | 10:23 |
| Madpilot | ...and how to fix common-tasks... | 10:24 |
| Madpilot | anyway, the diff I created fixes a few minor things, if you think it's worth committing - typos & status tags, mostly | 10:25 |
| === mdke thinks | ||
| mdke | it may be easier to revert jeffsch's change if we don't apply it quite yet | 10:29 |
| mdke | although, it shouldn't be too difficult anyway | 10:29 |
| Madpilot | yeah, was thinking that too | 10:29 |
| mdke | which? | 10:30 |
| Madpilot | not bothering with my patch until we figure out what we're doing abou the invalid code... | 10:31 |
| mdke | alright, we can keep it on standby | 10:31 |
| mdke | i'll apply dsas's patch tho | 10:31 |
| Madpilot | I'd fogotten about his - only to config-system, so no conflict w/ our c-t issues | 10:34 |
| mdke | actually, let's apply your patch | 10:34 |
| mdke | then if jeff needs to revert the procedures, we don't lose your changes | 10:35 |
| Madpilot | sure | 10:35 |
| mdke | if we revert first, it may be difficult to reapply your changes | 10:35 |
| mdke | Madpilot, now, on the "Synaptic/Advanced" point | 10:35 |
| mdke | you're probably right | 10:36 |
| mdke | actually, you're definitely right | 10:36 |
| Madpilot | OK, I'll patch that tomorrow sometime, unless someone beats me to it | 10:38 |
| Madpilot | Anyway, need to get off this damned machine, I got up at 0600 local to join the docteam meeting, and it's now almost 0200 local... :P | 10:39 |
| mdke | ok, good night | 10:39 |
| Madpilot | talk to you tomorrow sometime | 10:40 |
| mdke | okies | 10:40 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | bugger. wanted to talk to js | 02:36 |
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| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, can I help? | 04:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mdke: i was just going to ask about edubuntus docs and what was happening with them. don't know if your familar with what they are doing. | 04:05 |
| mdke | a bit | 04:06 |
| mdke | there are 2 documents in our repository | 04:07 |
| mdke | about edubuntu, and release notes | 04:07 |
| mdke | there is a cookbook project, which you'll find in launchpad | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | about to add one more :) | 04:07 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, ah, you can talk to jsgotangco about it | 04:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool. thanks mdke | 04:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi jsgotangco :0 | 04:08 |
| jsgotangco | the cookbook is a bit vaporware for now....we havent seen it at all | 04:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have the wiki page open right now - is that it in it's entirity? | 04:10 |
| jsgotangco | so me and mhz_food thought of doing a quickguide for the edubuntu apps | 04:10 |
| mdke | i thought the cookbook is quite far progressed? | 04:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so a quick help on each one? or some major/usefull apps? | 04:10 |
| mdke | that was posted to the list recently | 04:10 |
| jsgotangco | i dunno there is supposed to be a baz archive but the usa folks say its in lore | 04:10 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, have a look at it, it's registered in launchpad. Lore is a format, not a version control system. I believe there is a bzr branch you can grab | 04:11 |
| === mdke looks | ||
| jsgotangco | mdke, even the edubuntu meetings haven't been successful on this... | 04:12 |
| mdke | https://launchpad.net/people/kjcole/+branch/edubuntu.cookbook/wip | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | ask mhz_food he knows about it | 04:12 |
| mdke | shame they didn't work with our tools | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | thats what we were saying | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | i've used lore but its not useful for our workflow | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ebuntu | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | eeeekkkk | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | not that one | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | where is that | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | hrmm | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSoftwareList | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | Kamping_Kaiser, if you look at that url, it shows the desktop apps | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | jsgotangco: just opening now | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | we were thinking of putting that as a doc then add more info on age group, field of study etc. | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | jsgotangco: wow. big list | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | well excluding the server apps | 04:21 |
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| LaserJock | mhz: I love your descriptive nicks :-) | 08:44 |
| mhz | LaserJock: lol | 08:44 |
| mhz | thx | 08:44 |
| mhz | LaserJock: i think it is more personalized and very specific. I can't see the point of beeing 'away' | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | yes, I especially like _dishes ;-) | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | but I bet you don't | 08:46 |
| mhz | LaserJock: hehehe, I certainly do, or else my wife would kick me badly | 08:47 |
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| manicka | which parts of the kubuntu docs are in need of the most love at the moment? | 09:55 |
| jjesse | desktop guide | 09:55 |
| jjesse | we are making a reall push to make sure that it is done by doc freeze date | 09:55 |
| manicka | k | 09:57 |
| robotgeek | hey manicka | 09:57 |
| manicka | yeah | 09:57 |
| robotgeek | hey jjesse | 09:57 |
| manicka | hi | 09:57 |
| jjesse | hiya robotgeek | 09:57 |
| robotgeek | i wiped my breezy box, and was on to go on a trip. <sigh> | 09:58 |
| jjesse | installing dapper on it? or waiting for official release of flight4? | 09:59 |
| robotgeek | jjesse: no, i am moving. | 09:59 |
| robotgeek | i was supposed to be on a flight, and that was cancelled | 09:59 |
| jjesse | bummer | 09:59 |
| robotgeek | my backup data is on it's way to it's destination, however. | 10:00 |
| robotgeek | it will probably get there before I do, lol | 10:01 |
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| mdke | evening | 10:59 |
| jjesse_ | evening :) | 11:01 |
| jjesse_ | mdke: do you have a second? | 11:03 |
| mdke | jjesse_, yes | 11:03 |
| jjesse_ | riddell mentioned that to get the systelsheets looking correctly on doc.ubuntu.com that the kdelibs directory needs to be setup on the server or soemthing like that | 11:04 |
| jjesse_ | i can't find the log | 11:04 |
| jjesse_ | where he told me exactly what needed to be changed/added | 11:04 |
| mdke | perhaps you could get him to hang out here | 11:05 |
| mhz | .oO(someone mentioned me few hours ago.. why... I never got to see the log. I guess nothing impart it was)) | 11:05 |
| jjesse_ | sure let me see if he is available | 11:05 |
| mdke | I saw the xincludes have been stripped out of the kubuntu desktop guide | 11:05 |
| jjesse_ | i saw that as well | 11:07 |
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| mdke | jjesse_, can you email me the details? I've got to go now | 11:15 |
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| jjesse_ | mdke: will do | 11:24 |
| LaserJock | hi jjesse_ and mdke | 11:26 |
| LaserJock | I was just reading sounder and noticed the doc-team sprint idea. Is that going to happen (in any form)? | 11:26 |
| jjesse_ | LaserJock: i don't rembmer how the discussion ended but i thought at one time it was going to be over the phone? | 11:28 |
| LaserJock | jjesse_: do you know who all is going to be involved? | 11:29 |
| jjesse_ | no idea, i don't even know if it got settled as actually happening | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | I like the idea. It would also be nice to have some meetings with some of the website people/CC/TB . | 11:32 |
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