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Snake__lunitik: gotcha12:04
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_tijnls -la12:06
_tijnow fuck :S12:06
bohahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i844312:07
bohai get this on my screen when i boot live cd12:07
bohasomeone help me12:07
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sjmo2can't get amarok working, something with permissions, works ok with sudo12:09
_tijnboha: i dont get the prob12:09
_tijnthats all, it doent boot further?12:09
bohayes12:09
_tijnwtf :S12:10
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_tijndunno, sry12:10
bohatnx anyway12:10
_tijnnever used sata12:11
_tijndont like it either :D12:11
bohai have 2 disks12:13
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bohamaybe is that a problem12:13
bohai could try to disconect one12:13
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angasulehey, kubuntu is doing the stupid 'open a file with an app' thing again12:35
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Michhaelhello! I have a directory of documents (4GB) that I would like to burn on cd... what would I use to compress it, get 700MB pieces and then burn it on cd? thanks!12:39
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angasulehow do I disable/modify automount settings/12:43
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angasule!automount12:44
ubotuangasule: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:44
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stefanohey guys12:45
lunitik!listkeys mount12:45
ubotuFactoid search of 'mount' by key (6 shown): mountiso ;; mountntfs ;; easymount ;; mountwindows ;; diskmounter ;; mount.12:45
stefanoi wonder why i dont have sound in Flash-Movies after updating Mozilla to 1.5.0.1 and kde to 3.5.1 :(12:45
lunitik!listkeys autofs12:45
stefanodoes any1 know about this problem?12:45
ubotuFactoid search of 'autofs' by key returned no results.12:45
lunitik!botslap12:45
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik12:45
lunitikman, it likes that site  :|12:45
lunitiklol @ its not even an actual site though12:46
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shao_locan anyone tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a new window when i insert a cd12:50
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shao_locan anyone tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a new window when i insert a cd12:55
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slow-motionn812:56
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patterhi, hopefully I can ask a simple question without getting larted?12:59
Marrs:)01:00
patterI'd like to get the usplash splash screen working again after install & upgrade (installed kubuntu 5.10), I've got kubuntu booting with framebuffer & usplash is in init01:01
MarrsI just started using kubuntu today, so I'm not of much help..01:02
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murraywell, wine worked lovely for SQLyoug01:04
murrays/youg/yog/01:04
murraythen I got distracted and tried GoogleEarth ... :(01:04
shao_locan anyone tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a new window when i insert a cd01:04
murrayshao_lo: no, but I'd be interested to know the answer as well01:05
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shao_lo:)))001:05
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shao_loive been to kde, ubuntu, and now here...01:06
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rugi smell bacon01:06
rugmmmm01:06
rugsee ya01:06
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patterthink its either file associations in konqueror01:07
patteror some foo that does automounting01:07
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jshadowtry system settings, storage media01:10
jshadow@ shao_lo01:11
shao_loso remove open new  window  from the action list for mmounted cd-rom?01:12
jshadowunder the advanced tab theres enable medium application autostart after mount01:12
jshadowor that =)01:12
shao_lothank you Thank You THANK YOU!!!01:12
bob___kubuntu hangs at "settings the system clock" - I think this is because the machine is not connected to the net...any fixes?01:13
jshadowyour welcome01:13
ryanakcascreen -r01:13
bob___(oh, this is using the livecd)01:13
ryanakcaoops01:13
ryanakcamy bad01:13
bob___I think kubuntu-livecd requires an NTP server.01:14
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Marrsthat will time out eventually I think01:14
bob___well, i waited five minuts01:14
Marrshmm, that's long I agree01:15
bob___imho, it should time out after just a few seconds01:16
Marrsagreed, but I'm no kubuntu expert either ;)01:16
bob___ok..well thanks for at least chiming in ;)01:17
Marrshehe ;)01:17
shao_lodoes anyone here ever have problems with key repeeeeeats ?01:17
bob___my deian sarge system has become all messed up and I was hoping to use the kubuntu livecd to fix it.01:18
shao_lokde wigs out after a while and i have to restart to make it go back to normal01:18
MarrsI just installed kubuntu a few hours ago01:19
bob___sounds like a hardware problem or an irq problem shao_lo01:19
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Hostilehas anyone gotten the fglrx drivers to work with X.Org 7.0?01:19
bob___what do you see in /proc/interrupts?01:19
Marrsor the initial delay before keys start repeating is too low01:19
shao_lo/proc/interrupts doesnt appear to be a dirctory01:21
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ryanakcahmmm.... is it overly risky updating to kubuntu dapper?01:23
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bob___shao_lo correct it's just a file. What is in it?01:23
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rich0rdryanakca: why would you do it?01:24
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shao_loabout a dozen line01:25
ryanakcarich0rd: for more recent releases of programs... certain programs that I use alot and I dont feel like compiling from source, like gimp01:25
ryanakcarich0rd: Yes, I know, there will be bugs... that isnt a big concern for me01:25
Hobbseeryanakca: what are you thinking of doing?01:26
rich0rdryanakca: i did it twice, but there are some issues. i don't know if it is a good idea at all. I think it's ~2 month to the release.01:26
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Hobbseeupgrading to dapper?  download a cd instead01:26
Hobbseefar safer than dist-upgrading01:27
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shao_lobob___: http://pastebin.com/56196801:30
ryanakcahobsee: when you install a dist with a cd, dont you loose all your configurations?01:30
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Phazemanthe crystalcursor package is broken :(01:31
Phazemanin dapper01:31
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cedrcvHello :)01:31
angasulehow do I disable/modify automount settings?01:32
HobbseePhazeman: broken how?01:33
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ryanakcaunless... of course, someone knows how to install GIMP 2.2.10 threw apt...01:33
Hobbseeryanakca: backup your /home directory, and copy it over01:34
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GoDawgshey guys01:34
PhazemanHobbsee: it won't install01:34
PhazemanHobbsee: wanna see the error /01:35
HobbseePhazeman: pastebin the error?01:35
Phazeman?01:35
Hobbseeyes01:35
PhazemanHobbsee: it's a oneliner01:35
Phazemansec01:35
Phazemanupdate-alternatives: unable to make /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme: No such file or directory01:35
GoDawgshas anyone experienced installing Kubuntu only to have it shut down the laptop when it reached "Setting the Clock".... in the initial bot01:35
PhazemanHobbsee: ^^^01:35
GoDawgsboot01:35
ryanakcaI wouldnt neet to upgrade to dapper... if there was a way to upgrade GIMP from 2.2.8 to 2.2.10 threw apt01:35
Hobbseeryanakca: you'd have to compile it01:35
PhazemanHobbsee: did you get it ?01:36
GoDawgsbecause i can't get this darned thing to install for the life of me... i had Ubuntu Dapper working fine.... had to blast it because of a Winblows error... and now i'm back to square one01:36
HobbseePhazeman: hmmm...indeed that is a bug01:37
Phazeman:-)01:37
PhazemanHobbsee: it's definately is... there is no such directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/ at all01:37
Hobbseehmmm...because they changed xorg, i presume01:38
Phazemanyep.. i think...01:38
PhazemanHobbsee: you are the maintainer ?01:38
HobbseePhazeman: nope01:38
PhazemanHobbsee: btw.. it's dapper i'm speaking about01:38
Hobbseeyeah, i thought so01:38
Phazemanand the regular crystalcursors.tar.bz2 from kde-look.org won't install neither01:39
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Psi-Jackryanakca: Curious. What does 0.0.2 revision's really give you in gimp? :p01:41
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Hobbsee!+anyone01:41
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>01:41
GoDawgsI already did.01:41
GoDawgsThanks.01:41
Hobbseeoh, you're the same person from above...sorry about that01:44
GoDawgsthat's ok. :)01:44
HobbseeGoDawgs: did you try running the install agian, or checkign the md5sum?01:44
GoDawgsyeah both... five times01:45
GoDawgs:(01:45
GoDawgsI had dapper running just fine... but can't get kubuntu dapper going01:45
GoDawgsit's just plain odd01:45
GoDawgseverything seemed to install fine01:45
GoDawgsit got me to an command line when it was finished (because i have an ATI 200M card and I have to reconfigure the xserver)... did all that and then when it rebooted.... it completely shut off at the stage of "Setting up the clock"...01:46
Hobbseehmmm01:47
GoDawgsoddball huH?01:48
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wCwhat's the command to change the colors of the TTY terminals and is there a command to change the resolution of the TTYs from the default 640x480 / 800x600 to some other resolution such as 1280x1024?02:08
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judgenit seems that i cant get accelerated x drivers to work02:10
judgenwonder why02:10
Nomad411wC: Look at setterm maybe02:11
Nomad411setterm --h02:11
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wCwill try02:11
Psi-Jack Is there a kubuntu-announce type mailing-list?02:11
Cybliviouscan someone give me a very good link for setting up bt878 tv tuners for tvtime?02:11
wCttys look like shit on LCD monitors02:12
Nomad411me too!  :)02:12
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wCsetterm was the one, thanks a ton Nomad41102:12
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Nomad411np02:12
Cybliviouscan someone give me a very good link for setting up bt878 tv tuners for tvtime?02:13
wCdah maybe not, i dunno, stupid LCD02:13
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Psi-JackGreat! Now bogofilter is suggesting ALL mailing-lists I sign up for are 100% spam.02:15
judgenIs there any site for kubuntu themes?02:16
Psi-Jackjudgen: There's kde-look.org, for KDE themes.02:16
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Nomad411wow, Bogo-filter efficiency: 100%  :P02:17
Psi-JackHeh02:17
judgenPsi-Jack, if i have found a theme i like, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30799 how do i simplest install it?02:18
Psi-JackI don't install themes. :p02:19
Rodnihey guys, nobody happened to use a TrendNet 435brm router around here eh/02:20
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Psi-JackBut, I'm pretty sure installing a theme is pretty simple.02:20
RodniI dont know how I ended up with this thing but it makes me mad trying to configure it.02:22
yellohi i was wondering if neone could tell me if kubuntu comes with any compilers02:22
RodniI cant make the firewall to stop blocking every single damn port. I set rules and it just ignores them.02:22
yelloim sorry i know its probably a stupid question but does it come with ne compilers?02:24
yellobecause everytime i use ./configure it sais it cant find any02:24
yelloat $PATH02:24
yellocan anyone help me please?02:26
rich0rdwhat does ./configure miss?02:26
yelloill copy the message for u02:27
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yelloconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH02:27
yelloSee `config.log' for more details.02:27
Hobbseeyello: did you install build-essential?02:28
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yelloi dont think so how do i do that02:28
wCget gcc02:29
wCapt-get gcc02:29
yellook thankyu02:29
wCit should work after you have it02:29
yelloE: Invalid operation gcc02:29
yelloE: Invalid operation gcc02:29
wC:-\02:29
wCyou're using kubuntu correct?02:30
yelloyes02:30
Hobbsee!build essential02:30
ubotuHobbsee: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:30
yellokubuntu 5.1002:30
Hobbsee!build-essential02:30
ubotuI guess build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info02:30
FlakJacketwhy does installing winex uninstall wine?02:31
FlakJacketi mean xwine02:31
yellook sorry i am a complete noob but how do i do that02:31
rich0rdsudo apt-get install build-essential02:31
yellothanks02:31
wC:-P02:31
wCi'm pissed @ linux because TTY terminals look like crap on LCD02:32
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rich0rdyou will propably need more packages to build what you want, ./configure will tell you what is missing02:32
yellobuild-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or02:32
yello                            libc-dev02:32
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FlakJacketanyone know how to get yakuake to keep your schema setting between sessions?02:32
crimsunyello: you need to have the main repository enabled02:32
yellocrimsun: how would i do that sorry02:32
crimsunyello: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use Adept02:33
yellobuild-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or02:33
yello                            libc-dev02:33
rich0rdyello: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list02:33
yellowen i try to run adept it ses The APT Database will be opened in read-only mode, this means you cannot install/uninstall/upgrade anything. You have to run this program as root to be able to do that.02:33
wCew @ vim02:33
rich0rduncomment the line with main02:34
wCuse mc or nano, they are the best editors02:34
rich0rd... best02:34
FlakJacketso adept isn't auto kdesu?02:34
rich0rdit is taste02:34
wCyup02:34
FlakJacketyello do sudo apt-get02:34
fm-2yellowdart: you need to run as root. I.E. sudo adept02:34
yelloi tried that it didnt work02:34
Hobbsee!kdesu02:35
ubotuit has been said that kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "02:35
FlakJackettry alt+f2 and kdesu adept02:35
FlakJacketyou'll need to enter your user password02:36
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yellothankyou for ur help ill see if it works now02:37
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FlakJacketi like kpackage better btw02:39
FlakJackethaha02:40
yellocan one download themes through Adept?02:40
FlakJacketi don't believe so02:41
hatake_kakashinor do I02:41
FlakJacketkde-look.org02:41
yellook02:42
yellothanks02:42
yelloargh i downloaded gcc but02:42
yellochecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:42
yelloSee `config.log' for more details.02:42
wClol02:42
wCwhat are you trying to install?02:42
wCcompile/install02:42
wC?02:42
yelloim trying to install lipstik theme02:42
FlakJacketah02:42
wClol02:42
FlakJacketyou'll have to compile that02:42
FlakJacketi did02:43
FlakJacketnot too bad02:43
yellothats wat im trying to do lol :D02:43
yellohow do i do that02:43
FlakJacketwell... what have you done so far?02:43
yellounarchived it02:43
yelloand tried to follow the instructions02:43
yellothat came with it02:44
FlakJacketwhat error did ./configure give you?02:44
yellochecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:44
yelloSee `config.log' for more details.02:44
FlakJacketyou have gcc?02:44
yelloyep02:44
FlakJackethmm....02:44
yelloi just downloaded it02:44
FlakJacketthrough adept?02:45
yelloyep02:45
FlakJackethmm...02:45
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Alexi5hello02:45
FlakJackethey02:45
yellohi02:45
FlakJacketyou any good compiling Alexis?02:45
Alexi5compiling what02:46
yelloa theme02:46
FlakJacketsorry yello i've only had kubuntu for about a week02:46
yellothats fine :)02:46
Alexi5i nevere compiled a kde theme02:46
Alexi5is it possible to install zend studio on ubuntu02:46
RodniFlakJacket do you like it?02:46
yellook :)02:46
FlakJacketyeah it's the best i've tried in the past 4 years02:47
yelloits great but lots of errors for me02:47
FlakJacketthe forums are great02:47
yelloyea i will try there next i think02:48
FlakJacketanyone know how to get yakuake to keep your schema setting between sessions?02:48
yellodoes neone here know about gcc?02:48
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Rodnibrb02:48
yellosorry if i knew wat it was id help but iv only had kubuntu for a day02:48
FlakJacketno that's ok02:49
FlakJacketyeah i had plastik for a bit but then i switched to a deKorator windec02:49
FlakJacketbut yeah definately don't be afraid to post to the forums02:50
yelloill go post and see wat luck i get there thanks for ur help :D02:50
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FlakJacketyeo02:53
FlakJacketyep02:53
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SmrtJustinhow do I add services that are in /etc/init.d/ to start at boot?03:09
Alexi5how do i setup apache2 on ubuntu03:10
Hobbsee_away!lamp03:10
ubotulamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:10
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unholyhello03:23
unholybe anyone here?03:24
FlakJacketi'm here03:24
FlakJacketin spirit03:24
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unholyok03:25
unholywhould u be able to help me install kubuntu?03:25
hatake_kakashiunholy: there are guides all over the internet, just go browse for it03:25
unholyi cant boot it from cd because the machine doesn't allow it in bios03:25
hatake_kakashiunholy: then reset your bios03:26
unholyits not an option, the machine is that old (mobo)03:26
hatake_kakashiunholy: try updating to the latest version from your motherboard website03:26
unholydell sorta does wanna know about me getting into the bios.03:27
unholydoesn't*03:27
unholyis there a way to boot from floppy then work from cd?03:27
hatake_kakashiunholy: they don't care, if they do they won't give you bios updates freely off the internet03:27
hatake_kakashidoubt it03:28
unholyi found ones for redhat and suse :(03:31
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hatake_kakashiunholy: what do you mean disks?03:31
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MacMonhi03:32
unholya floppy disk that mounts the cd03:32
unholyand runs the cd's boot03:32
ragnahatake_kakashi: hello =)03:32
MacMonDose anyone here know how to run Kubuntu on the newest ppciMac G5s?03:33
hatake_kakashiunholy: if you can't do bios update then I don't know.. sure you can mod the floppy loader but hardly anyone has gone that far03:33
hatake_kakashiragna: hi03:33
Snake__Whats a good file browser aside from konq?03:33
Snake__and krusader03:33
ragnaanyone knows how to bind a command??? like "init 6" to "alt + f1"??03:33
hatake_kakashiragna: for commands to commands, its alias, but from keyboard to command, that I'm not too sure03:34
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hatake_kakashiragna: actually the program 'bind' itself maybe useful, but you need to mess with xev first to get the key sequence I think03:35
ragnahhhmm03:35
Snake__Anyone?03:35
hatake_kakashiSnake__: nfi, I pretty much use whatever is available, maybe mc?03:36
hatake_kakashiMacMon: I assume you need to get Kubuntu with ppc as compiled output03:36
Snake__hatake_kakashi: mc?03:36
hatake_kakashiSnake__: midnight commander, a shell based file browser03:37
Snake__hatake_kakashi: ehhh no, im lookin more for gui03:37
Snake__And tryin to get away from the split screen deal03:37
hatake_kakashiSnake__: lol I see03:37
MacMoni downloaded kubuntu the livecd and intsall cd but both froze at a black/brown screen03:38
hatake_kakashiMacMon: any last debug messages? check via Ctrl+Alt+F2, Ctrl+Alt+F3, Ctrl+Alt+F403:40
MacMoni can't hit any keys beause the keyboard is frozen03:40
hatake_kakashiMacMon: hmm03:41
treyh0openoffice is pretty on kubuntu-i386 but ugly on amd64 :(03:41
treyh0i installed the 32 bit version just cause of that03:41
treyh0heh.03:41
Snake__Kamping_Kaiser: help me out man03:44
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Kamping_KaiserSnake__: sup mate?03:44
Snake__Kamping_Kaiser: lookin for a file browser other than konq, or krusader.03:45
Snake__Kamping_Kaiser: I dont want any split screen crap03:45
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FlakJacketwhat's wrong wih konq then?03:45
judgenHow do i remove borders in the taskbar03:45
Kamping_KaiserSnake__: no idea. (just read up), i would have said mc as well :/03:45
MacMonit dosen't just do this for kubuntu/ubuntu it dose it forevery distro03:45
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treyh0why aren't there more "rolling release" linux distros like archlinux, that can provide a stable base OS and then up to date desktop03:49
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Steven_Mhi all03:51
Snake__FlakJacket: konq is to slow03:52
Snake__(sorry about the late reply03:52
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Snake__What does gnome use as a file browser03:55
hatake_kakashiNautilus I think03:55
mikeAnyone running the amd64 version?03:55
Snake__Hmm would that run on a KDE rig?03:55
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hatake_kakashiSnake__: don't see why not, I can run KDE apps from Gnome, as long as the deps are set, etc03:56
Snake__Yea03:56
mikeAny issues?03:56
Snake__hatake_kakashi: Wtf?? Why is it not in the repos?03:56
hatake_kakashiSnake__: it should be03:57
hatake_kakashimike: iirc if you want 64bit activated, some things are make or break. A fair few recommended using 32bit as it is more stable03:57
hatake_kakashi!info nautilus03:57
ubotunautilus: (file manager and graphical shell for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 2672 kB03:57
Snake__odd...03:58
Snake__Let me update and try again03:58
hatake_kakashiif not then maybe you need ubuntu-desktop :)03:58
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Snake__hatake_kakashi: ha, screw that!04:01
Snake__They want me to install nearly 30% of ubuntu-desktop to run it04:01
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snoozixhi there, on the kubuntu faq, i find that installing "kubuntu-desktop" should install kubuntu on a normal ubuntu system, but i still have kde 3.4.3 and not 3.5 :)04:02
mikewell I got amd dapper running ok so far... I have been a gentoo user for about the last 2 yrs and I have finally gotten fed up with the community.. I got crapped upon in there IRC channel for a "silly" question04:02
FlakJacketoh that's stupid there are no bad questions04:03
mikeso I switched to kubuntu...04:03
snoozixmike: same with me and those gnome developers. they suck.04:03
yellohi is it possible to use png files as ones icons and if so then how04:03
snoozixyello: for apps? yes it is.04:04
mikeyeah, sounded like the person crapping on me was like a 15 yr old or something... so I pretty much dropped them like a bad habbit.. and so here I am..04:04
yellothe kubuntu users seem really nice so far, im a noob and yet everyone has helped me so much04:04
yellosnoozix: i meant for the system, like a theme04:04
mikeI got a lot of debian experience... but I thought I would try this first.. so far so good04:04
snoozixyello: it's the philosophy of ubuntu to help each others.04:04
snoozixyello: =04:04
snoozixyello: ?04:04
yellosnoozix: is there any way to make icon themes04:04
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Snake__yello: mike : We are extremely kind, caring people :) Live by the philosophy :)04:05
mikethe only thing I can't get working is my creative labs X-Fi soundcard and thats due to alsa04:05
snoozixyello: don't know what exactly your'e talking about. if it's what i think it is -> yes it is possible, but i do not exactly know how.04:05
mikethe alsa folks don't have a driver for it yet04:05
snoozixmike: it should just work04:05
snoozixoh04:05
mikewell it would if alsa had a driver for it :D04:06
snoozixi got a very unusual m-audio audiophile 2496 soundcard and it's fully supported.04:06
snoozixfirst i thought i will have to wait like 1 year or so until i get sound out of it under linux04:06
mikeyeah, I was going to use a usb solution for now until the alsa folks get the driver going04:06
snoozixand, tadaaaaaaaaa, ubuntu installed and it just worked.04:06
snoozixusb solutions are input devices :)04:07
yellolol im not sure either i just want to change the system icons to a nice set i downloaded from a website (folders, system icos)04:07
snoozixanything else is beyond it and a workaround :)04:07
snoozixyello: oh04:07
snoozixyello: that should be possible indeed.04:07
mikehow much of a difference is there between the ubuntu respotires and say like debian etch?04:07
yellolol does anyone know then :D04:07
snoozixyello: did you check out kde-look.org? i guess they have a howto you could use.04:07
yellothats where i got it from04:08
yello:D04:08
snoozixmike: don't really know.04:08
mike*typo04:08
snoozixmike: i think the biggest difference is in the update philosophy04:08
snoozixmike: ubuntu doesn't get updated that often. i consider this an advantage.04:08
snoozixmike: and if you really wanna know, ubuntu is for the lazy people. like life-artists, alcoholics, potsmokers, out-of-work people, problemchilds and so on.04:09
snoozixmike: and this is exactly why i like it.04:09
Snake__Hehe04:09
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Snake__:-D04:09
snoozixhehe04:10
snoozixi would be too if there wasn't problem with my lounge health04:10
snoozixso im alcoholic04:10
mikeWell ok.. I am really none of the above.. I work about 100 hrs a week... :(04:10
snoozixsince 2 years04:10
snoozixcan't smoke anymore04:10
Nomad411!icewm04:10
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41104:10
snoozixmike: do whatever you think is good for you.04:10
Nomad411!fluxbox04:10
ubotuI heard fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net04:10
Snake__mike: it's okay, we have a spot for you, its called the WA (worcoholics anamous)04:10
snoozixNomad411: fluxbox is great.04:10
mikeThe life of a sysadmin... in the military04:11
snoozixNomad411: if you got any problems, ask.04:11
yellowhat is the .* of theme files?04:11
Snake__Nomad411: ill second snoozix04:11
Snake__yello: .theme04:11
snoozixSnake__: hm04:11
Nomad411snoozix: Is there a fluxbox-desktop from apt^04:11
yellohmmm i downloaded a .theme04:11
Snake__Nomad411: nope04:11
Snake__Nomad411: you can get fluxbox tho04:11
yellobut wen i try to load it it doesnt appear04:11
Nomad411so I just install fluxbox04:11
snoozixNomad411: if you don't need twinview, apt-get install fluxbox.04:11
Snake__Nomad411: sudo apt-get install fluxbox04:11
yelloin the file opener thing04:11
Snake__yello: what do you mean04:11
Nomad411twinview == 2 monitors^04:12
snoozixNomad411: if you do, i can upload you a customized .deb if you want to.04:12
Nomad411?04:12
snoozixNomad411: exactly.04:12
Nomad411no need, but thanks :)04:12
Snake__Nomad411: then just do what I said04:12
yellowen i go Install New Theme (in sys settings) i brows to the folder with the .theme inside but its not ther04:12
mikeok so I got the dapper installed here and so far so good.. doing a apt-get dist-upgrade.. so far so good.. things like flash and stuff should be in the resp? right?04:12
yellothe folder seems empty from that but in konqueror its full of stuff incl. the .theme04:12
Nomad411ftp.free.fr is down, it doesn't come from there does it?04:13
Snake__yello: what are you trying to isntall?04:13
snoozixNomad411: then the normal fluxbox should just work....04:13
yelloa theme04:13
yellocalled Silver Vista04:13
Snake__Nomad411: no, its from the universe04:13
Nomad411getting now04:13
snoozixNomad411: maybe you like to play around with styles. that's a little bit mad in fluxbox, but i think you will first want to figure out why by yourself.04:13
Snake__yello: one sec04:13
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snoozixNomad411: but let me tell you - it's an awesome windowmanager and i really like fluxbox a lot.04:14
Nomad411I<m hoping for performance.. :)04:14
mikefluxbox is nice and quite quick04:14
snoozixyou'll get it right in ya face.04:14
Snake__yello: this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35445&PHPSESSID=725028e89525867d3b6de6d8ecccd39204:14
Nomad411then looks of course04:14
snoozixperformance04:14
snoozixthere is more performance than in any other WM i guess.04:15
Snake__Nomad411: you want preformace??? Hit Alt+Ctrl+F1 and go full CLI!04:15
yelloyea04:15
Snake__Hehe04:15
snoozixif you face the look, especially.04:15
Nomad411Where do I change window manager?  (and back if all hell breaks loose?)04:15
snoozixSnake__: hehe04:15
yellothats the one :D04:15
mikecli is your friend04:15
Snake__Nomad411: know where you log in at? There is a button that says session type04:15
snoozixNomad411: i don't use gdm, sorry.04:15
yellohow do install it04:15
Nomad411k04:15
Nomad411re-sessioning04:15
Snake__yello: that is for IceWM04:15
snoozixNomad411: i just removed the gdm init script and use ~/.xinitrc instead.04:15
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yelloah ok04:16
yellolol thanks04:16
Snake__yello: that will only work if you dump KDE and move to IceWM04:16
yellono way04:16
yellolol thanks04:16
yelloi didnt realise04:16
Snake__:)04:16
Snake__No problem04:16
snoozixicewm is nice, too. but at the moment i use kde and i'm happy to use kde.04:16
Snake__I love my KDE04:16
snoozixand it really works fine once you got used to it.04:16
yellodoes anyone know how to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2868404:16
snoozixSnake__: yes :)04:16
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Snake__Hmmm nope yello04:17
yellokde has been fine other than compiling gcc for the 2 days iv used it04:17
yelloyea noone seems to know how04:17
snoozixSnake__: it's hard to configure it so it gets usable i think, but once you did that, it's awesome!04:17
Snake__yello: whats wrong with gcc?04:17
yelloit wont compile anything for me04:17
yelloi keep getting error messages04:17
mikecompling.. ahh yes.. the days of gentoo and the 4 1/2 days to took me to build the box from scratch04:18
Snake__yello: do you have build essentials?04:18
yelloi couldnt find build essentials04:18
Snake__!info build-essentials04:18
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Snake__Uhh crap04:18
angasulemike: you did a stage 1? suicide :P I used a stage 304:18
Snake__I cant spell04:18
mikestage 1 here... all the way04:18
Snake__yello: this is for you04:18
Snake__!info build-essential04:18
yellothanks04:18
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB04:18
angasuledoesn't make sense to me, but if you want to suffer, go ahead :P04:18
Snake__yello: sudo apt-get install build-essential should take care of gcc04:19
Snake__!gcc04:19
ubotuwell, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'04:19
yellook thanks04:19
mikeand that was with a "fast" machine... a p4 3.0 with Hyper threading..04:19
Snake__hmm yello I want this icon set04:19
Snake__lol04:19
angasuleI have an athlon xp 2000+04:19
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mikeI have a amd athlon 64 3700+ and it screams..04:19
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angasuleI hate you, mike04:20
Snake__I got a rocking Pentium 3!!!04:20
yellowoah thanks so much04:20
yellolol same04:20
Snake__700 MHZ!!04:20
yello:D04:20
mikeand I got 2 gigs of ram to boot04:20
yellothat ricebowl icon set is great04:20
Snake__mike: Im rollin 51204:20
Snake__hehe04:20
angasuleI have a 286 in my closet :P04:20
yelloif neone could make it a theme04:20
mikeI worked hard for this machine04:20
mike;)04:20
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Snake__mike: my big rig (gaming rig) has got a P4 EE 3.6 Ghz w/ 2 gigs of ram :)04:20
Snake__I love that machine04:20
GoDawgshey guys... i just ins04:21
mikeGodawgs: How do you like fios service.. there getting ready to lay down the fiber here in my neighboorhood04:21
GoDawgsinstalled kubuntu dapper on my lappy and i've come to see it's quite a big different04:21
GoDawgsmike: it rocks!04:21
GoDawgsi can download a full image in about 30 minutes04:21
GoDawgsplus they grandfatherd me in so i'm only paying 29 bucks a month04:21
GoDawgsfor the next year04:22
yelloomg thankyou soooo much for the build essentials04:22
angasuleI have a laptop with 32MB04:22
Snake__Download...a full image in 30 mins??04:22
yello:D04:22
mikeGoDawgs: Really, you getting 15 mps service?04:22
Snake__Tha sounds slow...04:22
yellothankyou!04:22
GoDawgsSnake__: you got it04:22
Snake__yello: does it work?04:22
GoDawgsmike: i don't know honestly04:22
Snake__GoDawgs: image ofwhat?04:22
GoDawgsi should have asked but forgot04:22
GoDawgsSnake__: ubuntu04:22
angasuleI'm dying to put linux in it, if my mother gives up (the screen can't close, it's broken, but it works fine)04:22
yelloyep!04:22
yello:D04:22
mikeGoDawgs: where u located?04:22
GoDawgsSo Cal04:22
GoDawgswhere are you mike?04:22
yellowait04:22
yellono04:22
mikeGodawgs: Va Beach here04:22
yellochecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!04:23
Snake__GoDawgs: meh not that impressive, I get mine in about 35-35, thats fibers right?04:23
GoDawgsoh right on... I'm originally from Georgia04:23
Snake__yello: this is for you04:23
Snake__!xincludes04:23
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev04:23
GoDawgsSnake__: yes, fiber04:23
yellook thanks04:23
mikeYeah thats fiber to the premises or what ever...04:23
yelloand how would one do that sorry (sudo apt-get...)?04:23
GoDawgsmike: exactly04:23
Snake__yello: yes sir04:23
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yellothanks04:23
GoDawgsthey also installed all the hardware and all the wiring for no charge here04:23
mikeVerizon is getting ready to lay down fiber here in my neigboorhood.. 15 meg down and 2 up04:23
GoDawgsi've had it about 3 months... and can't imagine going backwards...04:24
angasuleI hate you all! and mike in particular04:24
mikeor something like that...04:24
GoDawgsmy mom has d/u and oh my god!  i felt like i was in the stone ages04:24
mikehate me? but why?? I am a great guy :D04:24
angasuleI have 256k down and 128 up and they call it broadband, at least I'm not in .za04:24
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mikewhere u at ang?04:24
GoDawgsangasule: that's why you're feeling so foul... jealousy!04:24
GoDawgs:)04:24
Snake__im 3m down 1.5m up04:24
angasulemike: actually, I hate everybody, don't worry04:24
angasulemike: argentina04:25
GoDawgsSnake__: trust me it makes a huge differnce04:25
mikeah... I see... great coffee there04:25
yelloE: Couldn't find package xlibs-dev04:25
Snake__yello: hmm hang on04:25
GoDawgsand i sincerely doubt that you can download a full image in 30 minutes04:25
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Snake__!info xlibs-dev04:25
ubotuxlibs-dev: (X Window System client library development files transitional package), section oldlibs, is extra. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 160 kB04:25
angasulereally? don't know, I drink instant coffee, I'm lazy04:25
Snake__Its there...04:25
mikeCox has me at like 5 down and 768 up04:25
GoDawgshey mike, how do you add software that's been downloaded to the menu?04:25
Snake__yello: sudo apt-get update04:25
yellook thanks04:26
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Snake__yello: then try to install again04:26
angasulethere is this one coffee machine at uni that's insane, though, it's like the Pee of God or something, very good stuff04:26
GoDawgsI think the pee of anyone is disgusting04:26
Snake__Haha04:26
GoDawgsI mean really...04:26
GoDawgsewe!04:26
yelloReading package lists... Done04:26
yelloBuilding dependency tree... Done04:26
yelloE: Couldn't find package xlib-dev04:26
Snake__Lets use a nicer term..like the sweat of god!04:26
mikeI see... I live off of coffee.... I in the navy so its the live blood of the fleet04:27
angasulepee is medicinal, really! drink your pee and you'll see04:27
Snake__yello: do you have your repos open?04:27
yellomy wat - lol im such a noob04:27
GoDawgsOk... that enough of that talk... come one now...04:27
Snake__yello: did you ever enable universe and multiverse repos?04:27
yellohow would i have done that04:27
angasule!repositories04:27
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:27
mikeI'll pass on the pee stuff.. thanks...04:27
yelloso i should do that first04:27
Snake__yello: Read up there04:27
GoDawgsmike i agree totally!04:27
Snake__yello: yep04:27
angasuleyes, yello, it's very important04:28
yellook thanks04:28
Snake__yello: follow the first link shown, then go to the directions for kubuntu04:28
Snake__yello: or you can use this one as well04:28
Snake__!adept04:28
ubotufrom memory, adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:28
Psi-JackAnyone here on the ubuntu-annouce and ubuntu-security-announce mailing lists?04:28
Snake__wait04:28
angasuleok, then you don't want to know my theory about where chocolate comes from04:28
Snake__yello: never mind04:28
GoDawgsmike tell me where i can make all my apps that are downloaded appear in the menu... do youi know how?04:28
GoDawgsoops - YOU sorry04:28
yellowats synaptic package manager04:28
yelloah ok04:28
yellolol04:28
Snake__yello: scroll to the bottom04:28
Snake__yello: symaptic is for ubuntu04:28
Nomad411Snake__: yello:  Thanks for the thumbs up for fluxbox, it's very snappy!04:28
GoDawgsyello it's how you get software04:29
Psi-Jackyello: Synaptic is Ubuntu's package manager.04:29
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yelloadept?04:29
GoDawgssame thing04:29
GoDawgsjust for kde though04:29
yellocool04:29
Snake__yello: yea, down at the veryyy bottom04:29
Psi-JackAdept is Kubuntu's package manager.04:29
Psi-JackSynaptic uses GTK+, while Adept uses Qt04:29
GoDawgsi too am VERY new to adept04:29
Psi-JackBasically.04:29
yellook im on the kubuntu one04:29
Snake__GoDawgs: I dont like it, Apt for life04:29
mikeGodawgs: I thought it should do it by it self...04:30
GoDawgsSnake__: You don't like synaptic?04:30
GoDawgsmike: I dd too04:30
GoDawgsit doesn't...04:30
Snake__GoDawgs: no, I dont like adept...well I dont like synaptic either04:30
yellolol i already know how to use adept04:30
mikeGodawgs: not sure what script.... update menu maybe04:30
GoDawgsso far i'm not impress by adept04:30
Psi-JackSnake__: So.. What do you like, might I ask?04:30
mikeor menu update04:30
Snake__Psi-Jack: apt ;)04:30
GoDawgsmike: where do i find that?04:30
Snake__Psi-Jack: and aplitude04:30
mikecli04:30
angasuleadept gives too little information in my opinion, but at least it doesn't have a 'k' in its name04:30
mikebrb04:30
yellook so i search for those libs using adept?04:30
Psi-JackSnake__: Basically, you like CLI.04:30
GoDawgsi used ubuntu dapper and i didnt' have that option... must be a kde thing04:30
Snake__Psi-Jack: No, i'm no CLI freak, but I just dont digg the current managers04:31
GoDawgsangasule: so true!04:31
GoDawgscan one use synaptic in kde?04:31
yellodo i search for the libs using adpet?04:31
Snake__honkzilla: yep04:31
Snake__oops04:31
Psi-JackSnake__: That's cool. It's all about preference anyway.04:31
angasuleadept gives *way* too little info, and the search sucks badly04:31
Snake__GoDawgs: yep04:31
Snake__ugh.04:31
Snake__lol04:31
Psi-Jackyello: By using the filter input box.04:31
yelloyep04:32
yellopl04:32
yellowat libs were they agin sorry04:32
yellothe x thing04:32
Snake__yello: you could just apt-get, its faster than waiting for the that thing to search when you know the name of the package04:32
Snake__!xincludes04:32
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev04:32
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yelloit says they're installed04:32
angasulebut anyway, it'll probably be much better in dapper, maybe there're screenies available, brb04:32
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Snake__yello: impossible.... do sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev04:32
GoDawgswell that sucks kopete just crapped out04:32
GoDawgsfantastic... gotta love beta04:32
Snake__GoDawgs: yes you can run synaptic on kde04:33
GoDawgssnake ok right on04:33
yelloE: Couldn't find package xlibs-dev04:33
Snake__yello: sudo apt-get update again04:33
GoDawgsSnake__: is there a setting i should check to enable all software downloaded to appear in the menu?04:33
yelloahh04:34
yellofound it04:34
Snake__GoDawgs: I think everything appears there by default, but I noticed, (And this may be a bug) some times I need to restart X for it to show up04:34
yellosudo apt-get install xlibs04:34
yellonot xlibs-dev04:34
Snake__yello: your going to need dev.04:34
yellois that right?04:34
yellook04:34
Snake__yello: dev is what builds it04:34
GoDawgsSnake__: forgive me... i've forgotten how to restart X04:34
yelloahh04:34
yellohmm04:34
GoDawgsctrl-alt-bkspace?04:34
Snake__yep04:34
yelloin adept i cant find ne devs either04:35
Snake__yello: all your universe/multiverse is enabled, and you updated?04:35
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yelloyep04:35
Snake__Hmmmmmmm04:35
GoDawgsoh yeah... restarting X makes everything go away again04:36
yelloi think my uni/multiverse things r enabled04:36
GoDawgshehehehe04:36
Snake__yello: type in apt-cache search xlibs04:36
Snake__yello: then PM me the results, or pastebin them04:36
GoDawgsSnake__: nope... i don't see firefox anywhere04:36
GoDawgsok i'll try using synaptic04:36
GoDawgsbreb04:36
GoDawgsbrb04:36
yellokeyboard-config - XKB data04:36
yelloxlibs - X Window System client library transitional package04:36
yelloxorg-common - X Window System (X.Org) infrastructure04:36
Snake__dont spam.....04:36
Steven_MHow  can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access)  The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to  run the program as.04:36
Snake__yello: is that all?04:36
yellosorry04:36
yelloyep04:36
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Snake__yello: one moment04:37
GoDawgssorry - adept could not fine mime/time application/octet stream04:37
GoDawgswhat in hell is that?04:37
GoDawgsno mime types instaled04:37
GoDawgsinstalled04:37
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GoDawgsSnake__: any ideas?04:38
Snake__GoDawgs: huh?04:38
Snake__lol04:38
Snake__yello: your sure your universe is enabled...thats all it could really be04:38
Snake__yello: you hit apply before you hit close right?04:38
GoDawgsthen when i go to see if firefox is installed... it says it's not but then gives me a button for keep package... wtf?04:38
yellook ill have a look wat was the website for it again04:38
yellosoz04:38
Snake__yello: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:39
yellobrb phone sorry04:39
Snake__GoDawgs: odd04:40
GoDawgsthat's my middle name04:40
yellosorry back04:40
GoDawgsi have firefox now though... that's very strange ...04:40
angasulemine is cornelius, if you tell anyone I'll kill you04:40
Snake__LOL04:40
angasule(the last cowboy quote :P )04:40
Snake__angasule: you just told 134 people ;)04:41
angasule130 of whom are asleep :P plus I don't really have a middle name, my parents don't like them04:41
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Snake__GoDawgs: so you have firefox installed, but it doesnt show up on kmenu?04:41
GoDawgsSnake__: oddly enough it is now04:41
yelloahh its the repsitories04:41
yellodamn "apply" button04:41
yellobrb04:41
GoDawgsand i just got synaptic... so now i'm dumping adept04:42
Snake__yello: yea i made that mistake a few times :)04:42
GoDawgsthat sucked big04:42
GoDawgsi love synaptic...04:42
Snake__lol04:42
GoDawgsit gives a lot more info04:42
Snake__GoDawgs: kould have been worse04:42
GoDawgsthan adept04:42
Snake__rememebr..what wsa that one with hoary...04:42
GoDawgspardon the k right? :)04:42
Snake__krynaptic??04:42
Snake__Something like that...04:42
GoDawgsoh good lord... youi know i wasn't around linux then04:43
GoDawgsjust only in the last 8 or so months04:43
Snake__GoDawgs: aw that sucks :)04:43
GoDawgsnah, i'm ok with it :)04:43
Snake__GoDawgs: I just started on it...in novemeber04:43
yelloreally sorry bout that all repositories r open now04:43
GoDawgsSnake__: WOWWW!  I'm so impressed04:43
yellolol04:43
Snake__but I tried it a while back on hoary, and I was just to over wheled, but what I do remeber, that the package manger SUCKED04:43
yellook so i search for04:44
GoDawgsi'm not a programmer... I'm a web designer... and a girl brand new to any os besides Winblows04:44
yellothe devs04:44
Snake__GoDawgs: Female!? hehe that doesnt happen04:44
Snake__yello: try that apt-get install xlibs-dev04:44
angasuleGoDawgs: you made a mistake, never tell your a female human in a geek channel :P04:44
GoDawgsSnake__: hehe... yeah, it does... I'm afraid. :)04:44
GoDawgsangasule: why?04:44
angasules/your/you're/04:44
_davidhello... i just installed Kubuntu last night, and was just looking around - including Administrator functions. I had to walk away for a bit, and when I came back my screen was different - a terminal window was open. I'm feuding with my roommate, and now all of the Administrator functions won't go past the password; is there any way I can re-set the Admin password from the terminal window?04:44
Snake__GoDawgs: I'm a webdesigner myself, fun job :)04:44
Snake__HAHA angasule04:44
angasuleGoDawgs: because they're geeks! they don't know female humans04:44
GoDawgsSnake__: I love it!04:44
GoDawgsangasule: hehehe... I'm a geek too... and I know plenty!04:45
GoDawgs:)04:45
Snake__angasule: heyyy, my gfs have loved me04:45
Alexi5later04:45
yellothanks im just updating first04:45
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GoDawgsSnake__: yeah, you tell 'em ;)04:45
Steven_Many ideas about my problem?04:45
angasuleSnake__: both your right and left hands?? :P04:45
Snake__angasule: ill kill you04:45
GoDawgsangasule: terrible... :)04:45
mikesorry about that.. had to reboot04:45
angasuleSteven_M: what was it?04:45
GoDawgssudo apt-kill angasule04:45
GoDawgshehehehhee04:45
yellohaha04:46
Snake__GoDawgs: http://ctc.vipsystems.us is my website (very outdated, im moving to a newer server (feuer-frei.net)04:46
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Snake__Check out my site04:46
GoDawgsi'm going there right now04:46
_davidworthless room04:46
angasule'check out my site', see? that's a geek pickup line04:46
GoDawgs_david: be nice now04:46
Snake__LOL04:46
GoDawgswe're allowed to have fun too now :)04:46
_davidfu04:46
yellowow the update takes ages04:46
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Snake__danimo: whats your ptoblem.04:46
Snake__oops04:46
Snake__crap.04:46
Snake__ment that to david04:46
angasulehe left04:46
Snake__Assholes...let him run to gentoo.04:47
GoDawgsSnake__: that's nice...04:47
angasuleSteven_M: what was your problem?04:47
Snake__hell fit in just fine04:47
GoDawgsyour sitethat is04:47
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angasuleSnake__: hey, not all assholes use gentoo, I don't anymore, for example04:47
Snake__hehe04:47
yellolol04:47
Snake__yello: did ya get it?04:47
yellostill updating sorry04:47
GoDawgsSnake__: i'm not a gamer so i can't fully appreciate it.... but i do see the code work that went into it :)04:48
yellook04:48
yelloso04:48
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GoDawgsSnake__: here's my personal site www.kelleychambers.com04:48
angasuleis this channel utf-8?04:48
yellosudo apt-get install xlibs-dev04:48
Snake__yello: alright, dont worry, your getting 18,000 packages :)04:48
GoDawgsand there's breakingwind.org04:48
Snake__yello: yep04:48
GoDawgswww.breakingwind.org04:48
yellook dling now04:48
GoDawgsi have a slew of 'em04:48
Snake__Heh04:48
Snake__GoDawgs: how long you been in the game?04:48
GoDawgsi've been a certified designer since '0204:49
Snake__Nice04:49
Snake__I'm only 16 :)04:49
GoDawgsSnake__: are you in the states?04:49
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GoDawgsSnake__: oh lord.. I'm 3304:49
Snake__GoDawgs: yea, ohio04:49
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GoDawgshehehe04:49
Snake__Haha04:49
yello:D04:49
yelloim 1504:49
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GoDawgsis there anyone in here legal to vote? :)04:49
Snake__yello: learn young! Linux is the future!04:49
GoDawgshehehehe04:49
yellobut still as stupid as neone lol i dont learn04:49
yellolol04:49
Steven_MHow  can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access)  The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to  run the program as.04:49
Steven_M[16:36]  <Snake__> yello: is that all?04:49
GoDawgsyeah i agre04:49
yellonot yet04:49
angasuleSnake__: that's your wife in the pic? good looking :)04:50
GoDawgsSteven_M: i'm not sure. I'm quite new also.04:50
Snake__angasule: huh?04:50
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jariep1_hi all04:50
GoDawgsangasule: he's 16 dude04:50
GoDawgsi dont' think he's married...04:50
yellowat was the other one04:50
jariep1_how do I switch between installed java versions?04:50
angasuleah, well, I couldn't know that :P04:50
Snake__Nope, cant say I am :)04:50
yelloxlibs-dev and then there was another wasnt there04:50
Snake__ubotu: tell yello about xincludes04:50
Snake__there yello, now dont exit that :)04:51
GoDawgsSteven_M: I would ask the folks in #ubuntu... I'll bet they can help you...04:51
yellothanks04:51
mnoirSteven_M: try typing a different user into the box and give their pswd...04:51
yellook ill try compiling now04:51
angasuleSteven_M: if you "su otherUser" and become that user in a console, can you run things from there? maybe you have to add " -- :0" or something like that04:52
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angasulehmm, the local LUG is semi-dissolving04:52
Snake__yello: hows it goin04:52
yellofingers crossed04:53
Snake__yello: are you checkinstalling?04:53
yellou wont believe this04:53
Snake__Sure I will04:53
yellohow do i send u a pm04:53
yellosorry04:53
Snake__yello: what program ya using for IRC client04:53
yelloKonversation04:53
Snake__Double click my name :)04:53
yelloi g2g in 1004:53
yellochecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!04:54
yelloFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.04:54
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Snake__!qt04:54
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package04:54
Snake__!qtheaders04:54
ubotuSnake__: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:54
Snake__Hold on...04:54
Snake__nalioth_zZz: you here??04:54
yellolol04:54
Nomad411FF1.5 is soo amzingly faster using fluxbox!04:54
angasuleyello: you want to compile a qt app?04:54
yelloi dont know im trying to compile a theme i think04:55
yellolipstick theme04:55
angasuleyou need qt-devel or qt-dev, not sure the name04:55
Snake__yello: I dont know what you need for the headers :(04:55
Snake__nalioth_zZz: does...04:55
angasulethat's the only thing I miss about gentoo, it installs all headers04:55
angasulewhen something asks for the header of X program, search for X-dev or X-devel in the repos04:55
yellolol ok thanks04:56
Snake__angasule: we need it for qt04:56
angasuleyou're welcome04:56
yelloalready installed04:56
Snake__yello: thats for X, not qt04:56
yellox-dev already installed04:56
Snake__yello: can you come back tomorrow?04:57
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yelloyea04:57
yellowat time?04:57
yelloi have school so itll have to be arvo04:57
Snake__yello: im here all day ;)04:57
angasuleyellowdart: I was using 'x' as a 'magic card', you must install qt-dev or qt-devel04:57
yellolol ok04:57
yelloill come on around 6:00 or 7:0004:57
Snake__yello: what time zone04:57
yellohmm04:57
yelloest04:57
Snake__yello: alrighty, ill try to be here04:58
Snake__If im not here, theres plenty of others :)04:58
yellothanks04:58
yello:D04:58
angasuleactually, it's a bit more complicated, searching for libqt will give a list of all qt-related packages04:58
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yellohow do i search i g2g in a sec04:58
Snake__yello: type it in adept04:58
angasulein the Adept program there's a search box04:58
yelloill just add a sticky for later04:58
angasulelibqt3-headers is the package you have to install, I think04:59
yellowoah theres a whole heap04:59
yellook thanks04:59
Snake__angasule: I think your right04:59
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yelloinstalling05:00
angasuleSnake__: I hate qt's moc05:00
Snake__angasule: im going to find out the exact names when nalioth_zZz is on, and im gonna make a factoid. we need one05:00
yelloi g2g thanks for all ur help05:01
Snake__c ya yello05:01
yelloill be on tomorrow between 6 and 7 est snake05:01
yellocya :D05:01
GoDawgsSnake__: another satisfied customer huh? :)05:02
Snake__GoDawgs: of course :)05:02
GoDawgsLOL05:02
Snake__GoDawgs: were you the one saying you came from another distro?05:03
GoDawgsum... kinda... i was on Ubuntu Dapper...05:03
GoDawgsnot really another distro... just another version05:03
GoDawgsi've used suse and mepis before though05:03
Snake__Ah, someone said they came from gentoo I think..05:03
GoDawgsnot I05:04
angasuleI was a gentooite05:04
angasulebut I think someone said the same before me05:04
GoDawgsangasule: what made you switch?05:04
angasulegentoo05:04
Snake__heh05:04
GoDawgsahh... didn't like it anymore?05:04
angasuleno, actually, I messed up gentoo (my fault, as usual), and there was a lot of talk about k/ubuntu at the time in the LUG05:05
Snake__k/ubuntu is taking overr!! rawr!!05:05
Snake__:)05:05
GoDawgsoh right on05:05
angasuleI didn't feel like reinstalling gentoo, and there wasn't any other distro appealing to me05:05
Snake__Suse is VERY good.05:05
Snake__I love suse almost as much as kubuntyu05:05
angasuleI had started with suse, but it had become too windows-like05:05
GoDawgshow does one pronounce Kubuntu ... is it Koo-bun-too or Kah-bun-too05:06
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GoDawgsyeah I love SuSE also05:06
Snake__Koo - bun - too :)05:06
angasuleI think it's kooboontoo?05:06
GoDawgsSnake__: thanks :)05:06
GoDawgsreally?05:06
angasuleanyway, english vowels are a joke05:06
GoDawgsBoon?05:06
GoDawgshehehehe05:06
Snake__I think its bun..05:06
GoDawgsGood... I like buns. :)O05:06
GoDawgshehehe05:06
Snake__Kubuntu is pronounced "koo-boon-too".05:07
GoDawgsoh ya'll have a sense of humor... come on....05:07
angasulebantu languages have nice sounds, I think kubuntu comes from a bantu language, but I'm not sure05:07
Snake__grr05:07
GoDawgsright on05:07
Snake__I like bun more :(05:07
GoDawgsI do too.  I think I'll say it Koo-bun-too05:07
GoDawgs:005:07
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angasuleGoDawgs: I don't like buns, well, not the ones used for sandwiches in any case :P05:07
GoDawgsjust for the hell of it05:07
GoDawgsangasule: I like those... too! :)05:07
Snake__s/claling/calling05:07
GoDawgshey guys i'll be right back05:08
Snake__Peace05:08
Steven_MXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server05:08
GoDawgsi need to find some sources to install Skype05:09
Steven_MXlib: No protocol specified05:09
Steven_M(mozilla-thunderbird-bin:8793): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:05:09
GoDawgsi'll be back05:09
Steven_Mgold@toshiba-laptop:/home/Steven$  mozilla-thunderbird --:005:09
Steven_Mselected locale: en-US05:09
Steven_MXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server05:09
Steven_MXlib: No protocol specified05:09
Snake__GoDawgs: may I suggest klik?05:09
hatake_kakashi!tell Steven_M about pastebin05:09
GoDawgswhat's that snake?05:09
GoDawgshatake_kakashi: exactly05:09
GoDawgsthanks05:09
Snake__GoDawgs: one moment, this is the most convient thing youll ever use05:09
GoDawgsok i'll wait05:09
hatake_kakashiGoDawgs: np05:09
Snake__GoDawgs: this is great when you dont have repos, and dont want to complie05:10
Snake__http://klik.atekon.de/05:10
GoDawgsoh okay... let me check it out05:10
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Snake__GoDawgs: its one click install, on any program they have on their site05:11
angasuleSnake__: how reliable is it?05:11
Snake__GoDawgs: then it only uses one file, delete that file BAM. Program gone05:11
Snake__angasule: very reliable05:11
GoDawgsSnake__: but i have to instal klik first right?05:11
GoDawgsthat's extremely cool!05:11
angasuleSnake__: sounds like the mac .apps05:11
Snake__GoDawgs: wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O -|sh that installs the program05:11
GoDawgsi was using openSuSE before and never knew i had it05:11
GoDawgsok one sec05:11
GoDawgsok it looks like it's installed... let me see how it works ... brb05:12
Steven_Mis there an xhost expert in here?05:13
Snake__Not me :(05:13
GoDawgsSnake__: wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O -|sh05:13
GoDawgsoops05:13
GoDawgsSnake__: Please install ar in order to use klik.05:13
GoDawgswhat's that mean?05:13
Snake__GoDawgs: sudo apt-get install rpm05:13
angasuleGoDawgs: you must install 'ar'05:13
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GoDawgsrpm?05:14
Psi-JackYeak.05:14
Snake__I think05:14
angasuleGoDawgs: it's odd that you don't have ar, actually, I have it05:14
GoDawgsi thought we used .deb packaghes05:14
GoDawgspkgs05:14
Snake__NO05:14
Snake__WAUT05:14
Snake__WAIT05:14
Snake__GoDawgs: sudo apt-get install binutils05:14
GoDawgsok05:14
Psi-JackSnake__: I was about to say. Klik depends on rpm?05:14
Snake__that will fix it05:14
Snake__:)05:14
Snake__Psi-Jack: sometimes05:14
Snake__Psi-Jack: some of it is RPM, but you only do that when you get the "Please install rpm2cpio in order to use klik" error05:14
Psi-JackHeh. hmm.05:15
Psi-JackThat's no good. No good at all.05:15
GoDawgsit's weird i always have to insert the CD now... the Dapper CD05:15
Snake__Psi-Jack: why?05:15
GoDawgsSnake__: you mean this "sudo apt-get install binutils"05:16
GoDawgsdamn it05:16
GoDawgsSnake__: Please install rpm2cpio in order to use klik.05:16
angasulehttp://dot.kde.org/1126867980/  <-- klik article or something05:16
Snake__Psi-Jack: They take care of all dependencys before you download the file, then it all gets rolled up into one neat little file that goes on your desktop :)05:16
GoDawgsso in other words I can't use that?05:16
Snake__hatake_kakashi: does it say that now?05:16
Snake__ugh05:16
Snake__GoDawgs: does it say that now?05:16
GoDawgsSnake__: yeppers05:16
Snake__GoDawgs: sudo apt-get install rpm05:16
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GoDawgsso it's an rpm pkg that i can't use ... right?05:16
GoDawgsdo I really... REALLY want to install RPM?05:16
hatake_kakashithat makes you read rpms05:17
GoDawgsso it won't harm my system right?05:17
Snake__GoDawgs: its not an RPM05:17
Psi-JackSnake__: I Yeah.. I know what klik is. Never used it myself. Don't actually see the usefulness in it.05:17
Snake__GoDawgs: its a special file called .cmg05:17
hatake_kakashi.cmg?05:17
GoDawgsok... i'll give it a shot05:17
Snake__Psi-Jack: its good if you dont want to complie and its not in the repos05:17
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Snake__hatake_kakashi: yes, its a single file that contains all the files needed to run the program05:17
hatake_kakashiSnake__: hmm05:17
Snake__hatake_kakashi: remove the one file, the program is gone. That allows you to put it on USB sticks and run from ther eetc05:18
Psi-JackSnake__: If it's not in the repos, then I don't mind compiling, prefixing to /opt somewhere, out of the way and thus, easily de-installable.05:18
GoDawgsthis is CRAZY05:18
Snake__GoDawgs: whats up now05:18
GoDawgsplease install this... please install that!05:18
GoDawgsgeez05:18
Snake__GoDawgs: what are you missing now??05:18
GoDawgsPlease install libstdc++5.so in order to use klik. The installation will continue, but the resulting cmg files will be larger than neccessary.05:18
GoDawgsLOL05:18
Snake__Wow.......05:18
GoDawgsthis is comedic05:18
Snake__lol05:18
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Snake__I didnt get all that :)05:18
Snake__Probly because I have 15000/18000 repos tho05:19
Snake__hehehe05:19
GoDawgsapt-get libstdc++5?05:19
GoDawgsi don't have but maybe 1005:19
GoDawgs:)05:19
Psi-JackSnake__: Or better, I make my own deb package. :)05:19
GoDawgsgood lord05:19
Snake__GoDawgs: I dont think so....05:19
GoDawgsi don't know how :(05:19
Snake__!info libstdc++505:19
ubotulibstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB05:19
Snake__Oh05:19
Snake__GoDawgs: go for it05:19
Snake__hehe05:19
GoDawgsok... here goes nothing05:20
Snake__GoDawgs: trust me, its worth it ;)05:20
GoDawgsright now i'm getting invalid operation from shell05:20
GoDawgshold on a sec05:21
Snake__GoDawgs: apt-get INSTALL libstdc++505:21
Snake__;)05:21
angasulehey, I need libcurl.so.2, but kubuntu has libcurl.so.3, I can't see how to install an older version (don't even know if there is one in the repos, actually)05:21
GoDawgsohohohoh Install is the key05:21
Snake__:)05:21
hatake_kakashiangasule: get the source and recompile that05:21
Snake__!info libcurl.so.205:21
angasuleI was looking for a less ugly way, hatake_kakashi, since that'd require installing a bunch of other stuff05:22
Psi-Jackangasule: Why do you need an older version?05:22
GoDawgskelley@kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install libcurl.so.2 - Reading package lists... Done - Building dependency tree... Done - E: Couldn't find package libcurl.so.205:23
angasulePsi-Jack: closed source game05:23
GoDawgsi give up.05:23
Snake__GoDawgs: I told you not to do that..05:23
Snake__roflmao05:23
GoDawgsnot to do what?05:23
Snake__PM05:23
Psi-Jackangasule: symlink libcurl.so.3 to libcurl.so.205:23
tinin!dapper05:23
ubotufrom memory, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.05:23
angasulePsi-Jack: that's not nice :P05:23
Psi-Jackangasule: If it works, it works, right?05:24
GoDawgsoh this is so fun...05:24
GoDawgshehehehe05:24
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GoDawgshttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:26
GoDawgsthat's for everyone's benefit05:26
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GoDawgsit auto builds a source.list for ya'05:26
GoDawgscheck it out05:26
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Psi-JackGod...05:27
Psi-JackNevermind, then.05:27
keqiuguangy do mt open office keep hanging05:27
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keqiuguangsoeone help me05:27
Psi-JackI was about to warn GoDawgs that that site, however, good, can be dangerous.05:27
angasuleoh, well, it didn't complain too much until it asked for a certain libstd++05:27
Psi-Jackkeqiuguang: In order to help yuou, you need to be more specific.05:27
Psi-Jackkeqiuguang: Use of the English language, also helps. :)05:28
keqiuguangok05:28
keqiuguangmy office document05:28
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GoDawgssorry ya'll didn't mean to cut out on ya'05:29
Nomad411Using fluxbox, is kde still needed?05:29
keqiuguangit hangs everytime i use it05:29
Psi-JackGoDawgs that that site, however, good, can be dangerous, the source-o-matic one.05:29
Snake__Nomad411: no05:29
keqiuguanghelp05:29
GoDawgsPsi-Jack: yes I know... that's why it stipulates "use at your own risk"05:29
GoDawgs:)05:29
Nomad411keqiuguang: just say what your problem is05:29
Psi-Jackkeqiuguang: "it hangs," is not any more specific than "keep hanging". Be more specific.05:29
GoDawgsPsi-Jack: but thanks... seriously05:30
keqiuguangit hang05:30
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angasulekeqiuguang: open office hangs when you try to use it?05:30
Psi-Jackkeqiuguang: Sorry. Can't help you.05:30
Nomad411Snake__: If I did remove the KDE stuff, what package woudl it be?  Last time I did, it removed almost all from the machine :)05:30
keqiuguangk05:31
keqiuguangnevermind05:31
Snake__Nomad411: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe kde? im not sure05:31
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Nomad411lol05:31
Nomad411keqiuguang: If you start it from the oowriter from the command line, you may see error messages05:31
Psi-JackNomad411: If you uninstall libqt3-mt from the system, pretty much all of KDE libraries and software will go with it.05:32
Psi-JackAmong with anything else dependant on Qt, of course.05:33
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Nomad411SO that means, koffice, kopete, etc.. all go?05:33
Psi-JackOtherwise, you could just remove kdelibs.05:33
Psi-JackNomad411: Well, yes.05:33
angasulePsi-Jack: does adept uninstall all that depends on that package? or just breaks them?05:33
Nomad411I guess it,s not taking that much space anyway..05:33
Psi-Jackangasule: Adept follows dependancies.05:33
angasulevery very nice05:34
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Psi-JackIt's dpkg that will quickly break your system if you don't use it properly.05:34
=== angasule has a flashback from when he broke gentoo
Psi-Jackangasule: Ironically, That's not hard. :p05:34
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GoDawgsDon't do that again!05:35
GoDawgsPositive thoughts... postive... :)05:35
GoDawgspositive even05:35
Psi-JackIt's actually MUCH easier to break a Gentoo system than it is any binrary-oriented distribution.05:35
angasuleyes, but not anybody can break it as well as I did!05:35
Psi-Jackangasule: Yes, yes, they can. ;)05:35
angasuleI didn't just make it non-functional, anyone can do that, I mutated it into something so hideous even microsoft wouldn't sell it05:36
angasuleand SCO wouldn't sue it!05:36
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Psi-Jackheh05:37
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Psi-Jackangasule: Spill it. What did you do?05:37
Psi-JackI'm curious. :)05:37
angasuleI don't know, actually05:37
angasuleit was a long process of small screw ups05:37
Hystyhowdy all05:37
angasuleI installed and uninstalled programs constantly, changed settings all over the place, recompiled some stuff with different flags, etc05:38
angasulehi Hysty05:38
Psi-Jackangasule: Okay. So basically what you're saying is. You don't know.05:38
angasuleeventually it was like windows05:38
Hystyheh05:38
angasulewell, sometimes I was trying to get something to compile but it'd be late so I'd sleep, and when I woke up I wouldn't remember what I had done the day before05:39
Psi-JackThe biggest problem with Gentoo, is their resolver in portage is like molasses. It's very immature and extremely basic.05:39
Psi-JackI have explained this repeatedly to the Gentoo guys, and is why I now, refuse to use Gentoo.05:39
Psi-JackI even made strategical suggestions on which ways to make improvements. All of them were shot down, quite literally within milliseconds of me mentioning them.05:40
Hystytheir loss05:41
Hystyanyone here used Linux MultiMedia Studio?05:42
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angasule_don't miss me any more!05:43
Hystyphew!05:43
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angasule_hmm, I ate too much, it's almost 2am and I'm still not hungry enough for a midnight snack05:47
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Snake__angasule_: thats a problem!05:48
angasule_yes, I can't go to bed without my midnight snack05:49
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Hystyyay compiled my first package05:50
rich0rdit is not a belly until you can put a "Mass" of beer on it.05:51
Snake__Hey guys is dapper flight 4 out?05:51
Hystyit wasnt a few days ago05:51
angasule_hey, I have a belly for the first time in my life, let me enjoy it! :P besides, i don't drink alcohol, caffeine is my only drug05:52
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rich0rdangasule: but with beer you get a belly in a shorter time05:52
Hystytrying to get rid of my belly05:53
Hystyi have 20 odd kilos to drop05:53
=== rich0rd trying to avoid a belly
=== Snake__ is doing pushups as he speaks
Snake__lol05:53
=== Snake__ works out while hes on the PC since he doesnt geto ut much
=== rich0rd is doing the best sport on the world
rich0rdbilliards05:54
Hystybench press that monitor!05:54
rich0rddrinking, smoking, sitting05:54
Snake__Hysty: I got a bench right next to me05:54
HystySnake__, well what are you waiting for, grab that monitor and move!05:55
Hysty;)05:55
angasule_hmm, that's a good idea, my CRT is kinda heavy05:55
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angasule_I was underweight until a short time ago05:57
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Snake__Im pretty built myself05:59
Snake__;)05:59
angasuleI get bored too easily, I have a gym two blocks from home but I gave up after a month06:00
Snake__angasule: gotta change it up06:00
angasuleI do pushups at home, but that's all06:00
angasuleand I walk a lot06:00
angasulealthough summer is horrible for doing excercise06:01
rich0rdsummer - where?06:01
rich0rdit's winter here06:01
angasuleI'm in the other half of the world06:01
rich0rddamn06:01
angasulethere are two halves, just like the sith06:02
Snake__angasule: me06:02
Snake__http://myspace-139.vo.llnwd.net/00378/93/13/378153139_l.jpg06:02
Snake__woot06:02
rich0rdthe cold and the warm yedis?06:02
angasulewho's the girl? she's good looking06:02
Snake__hehe im just playing :) thats a random pic I found haha06:03
angasulebig screen! how many inches?06:03
angasuleoh :P06:03
Snake__Hold on, I can get my real one, give me a sec06:03
angasulehttp://anduin.net/~angasule/xmas/  <-- real pics of me06:04
GoDawgsbye everyone... take good care and I'll talk with you soon06:04
Snake__angasule: there06:04
Snake__http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=20275409&imageID=382457884&Mytoken=D98B5D2A-1143-89EF-65701413F33FEFE93020663406:04
angasulegood night, GoDawgs06:04
Snake__Ugh06:04
Snake__hold on06:04
GoDawgsangasule: night night :)06:04
Snake__angasule: http://myspace-884.vo.llnwd.net/00382/48/87/382457884_l.jpg06:04
GoDawgsme Snake__?06:04
Snake__naw, angasule06:04
Snake__cya GoDawgs06:04
angasulehahahaha06:04
GoDawgsok c ya06:04
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angasulewho is the polite lady?06:05
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Snake__angasule: you look like a freakin psycho killer06:05
Snake__My ex06:05
angasulethanks06:05
Snake__want more pics of her? hehe06:05
angasuleI love blondes :P06:05
Snake__Same06:05
Snake__Im workin on another one atm06:05
angasulewhere are you from?06:05
Snake__Ohio06:06
Snake__Ohello06:06
martmani reconfigured xorg to allow higer resoltions. i see it in my config file but im still at 1024 and the disply system settings window doesnt list anything higher06:06
martmananyone have any idea anychance?06:06
angasuleah, I have no girls in sight, unfortunately, I got semi-dumped a couple of weeks ago06:06
Snake__sorry martman I dunno :(06:06
angasulemartman: try #kde or #xorg I dunno06:06
angasuleshe was a lawyer and very religious, so it didn't have a future anyway06:07
Snake__angasule: heres who im goin for06:07
Snake__http://myspace-631.vo.llnwd.net/00500/13/62/500832631_m.jpg06:07
Snake__http://myspace-346.vo.llnwd.net/00500/64/33/500833346_l.jpg06:07
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angasulevery nice06:07
Snake__I thought so06:07
angasuleshe has a sister? :)06:07
Snake__Shes got a 5 y/o bro...if you happen to be a catholic priest...06:08
unix_infidelcan anyone help me out here for some bloody reason cpufreq seems to change governors on its own after i plug in my ac adapter, or after i close the lid and such things like that.06:08
Snake__LOL06:08
unix_infidelwhat kinda program is acting like a bloody fool doing things i didnt ask it to do.06:08
Snake__DUDE GREAT NAME!06:08
Snake__unix_infidel: HAHAH06:08
angasulehahahahahaha Snake__, sorry, I'm not even religious06:08
unix_infideleh?06:09
Snake__unix_infidel: Sorry I cant help with the issue tho :(06:09
Snake__unix_infidel: I was complimenting your name06:09
unix_infidellol, brillian.06:09
unix_infidelt06:09
angasuleI have no idea, sorry06:09
Snake__angasule: how old are you06:09
angasule2506:10
Snake__Ah that sucks, I got a chick I could hook ya up with, but it might be illigal :-D06:10
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angasulehahaha06:10
angasulehere it's legal :P06:10
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angasuleI'm not in the states06:10
Snake__Ooo nice06:10
Snake__lol06:10
angasuleanyway, I don't like dating younger girls, they get on my nerves06:11
Snake__angasule: http://myspace-606.vo.llnwd.net/00357/60/62/357122606_l.jpg06:11
Snake__Very mature ;) hehe06:11
Snake__but very religious as well....good luck......06:11
angasulenice pussy? :P06:11
Snake__Yessir! :) (were gonna get in trouble lol)06:11
angasulethat's your ex, right?06:11
rich0rd !kickban wuhu06:12
uboturich0rd: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:12
rich0rdharr06:12
angasuleI was talking about the cat :P06:12
Snake__Hehe06:12
angasuleactually, that looks like one of those expensive cats that are not retarded like the usual pet store cats, hmm, don't remember the name06:13
Snake__angasule: her cat gave birth to it06:13
Snake__actually 4 of em :)06:13
Snake__You can see 2 on the recliener06:14
angasuleneat, I'm a cat person, in so far that I hate dogs and I respect cats (I don't like the smell of living entities, though)06:15
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Snake__!adept06:30
ubotu[adept]  a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:30
SmrtsHow can I add things in /etc/init.d/ to start on boot?06:33
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Nomad411!qemu06:48
ubotuI guess qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=106:48
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alcrosthis is a longshot but, has anyone installed kubuntu on an HP Pavilion dv5000 successfully??07:08
alcrosMy new kubuntu installation hangs on "checking battery state", I've found many pointers but they all refer to nvidia cards, and I have an ATI07:11
Psi-JackInteresting.07:12
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Psi-JackSomeone goofed up on the KDE 3.5.1 porting for Breezy.07:13
Snake__Psi-Jack: why whats up07:13
Psi-JackIt's claiming browser identification of Kubuntu 6.04 Dapper. :}07:13
Psi-JackFor konq07:13
Snake__Hmm07:13
Snake__Psi-Jack: where07:14
Psi-JackI've been using konq to hit my own site, trying to get this bloudy phpmyadmin package to actually use the config.inc.php like it's supposed to.07:14
Psi-JackSo, it's in my apachelogs./ :)07:14
Snake__Ahhhh neat :)07:14
Snake__Psi-Jack: I think its like that because 3.5.1 is goin into dapper07:15
Psi-JackAnd, I, run Breezy. ;)07:15
Psi-JackSnake__: It already is in Dapper. But, still.07:15
Psi-JackWhoever backported it for breezy missed that one detail.07:15
Snake__Yea07:15
Snake__Well cant get everything can they?07:15
=== Snake__ wouldn't have thought about that :D
Psi-Jackheh07:16
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Psi-JackI do have some requests they should do for kubuntu-defaults, though, for konq. Enabling the platform and language in konq settings. ;}07:16
intermy dell 700m won't reboot after writing a suspend2 image to the hdd...manual reboot is required by the image is restored fine...anyone have a suggestion?07:17
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GullyFoylewhat pkg do i install to build x apps fom source? x-devel or something?07:19
Snake__GullyFoyle: whats it asking for07:19
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Snake__x includes or what?07:19
Hostiledoes anyone have fglrx drivers working with X.Org 7.0 here?07:20
GullyFoyleX-includes07:20
Snake__!xincludes07:20
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev07:20
Psi-JackHostile: Running Dapper, I presume?07:20
HostilePsi-Jack: yes07:20
HostileI wanted to try out Xgl, but the fglrx on Xorg 7 have hit me like brick wall07:20
Psi-JackDapper, I won't run, till it's stable. ;}07:20
Hostilelike a*07:20
Snake__Psi-Jack: do you know what the suggest packages are for qt headers and librarys?07:21
Snake__suggested*07:21
Psi-JackEveryone's out trying to get this Xgl stuff. It's not all that great07:21
HostilePsi-Jack: yeah if after a few days on the ubuntu forums no one gets a solution, I might reinstall and stay at breezy07:21
Psi-JackSnake__: libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev?07:21
HostilePsi-Jack: I just wanted to give it a try, I live to experiment07:21
HostileI have too much time on my hands07:21
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Psi-JackI live to have a usable system.07:22
Snake__Psi-Jack: I want to make a factoid in ubotu because that question has been brought up 2 times since ive been in here07:22
HostilePsi-Jack: hehe07:22
HostileMy system is perfectly usable right now, Just no 3d accel07:22
Psi-JackSnake__: Yeah, it's libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev07:22
Hostilenot a huge deal for me07:22
Snake__ubotu: qtheaders is needed to complie some programs. You should get the following packages: libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-mt07:23
ubotuSnake__: okay07:23
Snake__!qtheaders07:23
ubotufrom memory, qtheaders is needed to complie some programs. You should get the following packages: libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-mt07:23
Snake__Thank god07:23
Snake__lol07:23
Psi-Jack!Qt07:23
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package07:23
Psi-JackHmm..07:23
Psi-Jack!Psi-Jack07:23
ubotuPsi-Jack: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:23
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Snake__Psi-Jack: DID YOU JUST CHANGE THAT!07:23
Snake__That was not there07:23
Psi-JackSnake__: No.07:23
Psi-JackIt's been there. :p07:24
Snake__Dude I totally called that up earlier and it wasn't there!07:24
Snake__ubotu: forget qtheaders07:24
ubotui forgot qtheaders, Snake__07:24
Psi-Jack!Psi-Jack07:25
ubotufrom memory, psi-jack is A Kubuntunite, heavily into KDE and all against the Gnome generation.07:25
Psi-JackThere we go.07:25
Snake__Psi-Jack: will !qt fix this error07:26
Snake__checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!07:26
Psi-JackShould yes.07:26
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Snake__Alright07:26
GullyFoyle!QT07:26
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package07:26
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Psi-JackDangit.07:27
Psi-JackWhy the fsck isn't this phpmyadmin reading the /etc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php?07:27
Snake__Psi-Jack: well, knowing php, and the way it acts, your missing a bracket :P07:28
Snake__hehe07:28
GullyFoyle!KDE07:28
ubotumethinks kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:28
Psi-JackThere;s no apache errors. heh07:29
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unix_infidelummm, there's no .xinitrc how do i set the wm?07:29
Snake__unix_infidel: what do you mean?07:30
Snake__unix_infidel: Are you trying to change to gnome/fluxbox/insert manager here?07:30
unix_infidellol, you kids and your gui.07:30
unix_infidelno i'm trying to find xinitrc to so i can startx from command line07:30
Snake__Ah :)07:30
unix_infidelbut i think i found it :P07:30
Snake__unix_infidel: how long you been on nix?07:31
unix_infidelSnake__: why?07:31
Snake__unix_infidel: just curious, the way you say "You kids and your gui" hehe07:32
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unix_infidelSnake__: b/c every time i ask a pertinent question that doesnt really require a gui, i get an answer that requires a gui.07:33
unix_infideli'm just not a big fna, and i understand that's sorta the angle this distro takes.07:33
unix_infidelbut if its gonna be meant for the human beings it has to be made for all kinds of users.07:33
Hostileunix_infidel: Oh my god, you just stated how I feel ALOT07:33
unix_infidelok.07:34
unix_infidel....07:34
Hostilehaha07:34
HostileI know where you're coming from unix_infidel07:34
Snake__unix_infidel: not many of you cli rippers left, now in days we like teh pretty pictures :)07:34
Hostilelol07:34
Hostilesomeone actually said 'cli' don't see that term used much anymore07:35
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Snake__Hostile: I love terminal as much as the next guy, but seriously, my moniter can support more than fonts and monochromatic colors. why should I put up with it? lol07:36
unix_infidelSnake__: really, that's why most system admins use kde tools to manage all their services.07:36
HostileI just find GUI's are beating around the bush, just doing the same thing with commands that you could do yourself in less time07:37
unix_infideli wonder how many of you kiddos that like the pretty pictures get paid nearly enough to admire the pretty pictures as opposed to code them.07:37
unix_infideliono, just an opinion.  nothing personal, dont expect yall to learn every which way, just the way i'm looking for :)07:37
unix_infidelbrb.07:37
Snake__unix_infidel: very true, and I have nothing against running a full command enviroment with a server, but as most of the.......07:37
Snake__ugh.07:37
Hostilelol.07:38
Snake__users are home users...we dont think much about servers in ubuntu07:38
Snake__THere we go07:38
Snake__whatever07:38
Snake__lol07:38
HostileIf you want a server, use Debian07:38
Hostile^_^07:38
Snake__Hostile: Red Hat for server07:38
Snake__imo07:38
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HostileUGH07:39
HostileSICK07:39
HostileREDHAT BLOWS07:39
Hostilelol07:39
Snake__lol07:39
HostileI run a Redhat server07:39
Hostileit makes me hurt myself07:39
Snake__Haha07:39
Snake__Hostile: I run a w2k3 server..I know i know, im askin for it07:40
Snake__lol07:40
HostileMy home server runs gentoo (it's okay, but it's also causing global warming)07:40
Snake__But I plan to move it linux when im more familer with linux (i've only been on since novemeber)07:40
[muttox] wierd problem on kubuntu install, no root password and unable to su or sudo :S07:40
Hostile[muttox] : sudo passwd07:41
Hostileto set the root pass07:41
[muttox] cant sudo07:41
Hostileoh07:41
Hostilepasswd?07:41
[muttox] lol yeah07:41
[muttox] it wouldnt give me a gui on startup so i havent gone through any setup wizard if any existed07:41
HostileHm.07:41
HostileDunno, Odd problem, Sorry I'm just too tired to think right now07:42
HostileI'm just sitting around and bsing07:42
[muttox] so i edited my xorg conf, sudo worked then, got my monitor working now it doesnt :P07:42
Snake__and im goin to bed07:42
Snake__Night guys07:42
Hostilenight Snake__07:42
Snake__Good luck [muttox] 07:42
Snake__cya Hostile07:42
Hostilelater.07:42
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unix_infidelcan anyone tell me why flux fonts are different when i do start x as opposed to having kdm handle startfluxbox?08:21
unix_infidelfonts arent antialiased anymore and i'm getting totally different fonts in my gtk themes.08:21
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HostileDude cuz teh kdm gui is teh pwn08:22
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unix_infidelholy jebus.08:25
Hostilelol08:26
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there?08:26
Tallia1Kubuntui am trying to play a *.vob file in mplayer08:26
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Tallia1Kubuntuit's a 1.7 GB file but it plays only few seconds on a selection menu and then it terminates..08:27
trooper00i can't seem to get any sound out of gaim but nothing else is having a problem. is there a simple workaround? for example, what command could i run to play the sounds?08:27
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i choose the chapter? in the main screen i can't click :(08:27
Tallia1Kubuntuor better, if i click it doesn't happen anything08:27
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KaoticEvilhey everyone :)08:51
MeshGearFoxHaaaaa :D08:51
KaoticEvilanyone ever messed about with ndiswrapper?08:52
MeshGearFoxAh, just gonna shoot this out real quick, but how do I mount a swap partition? checked online, but it just says to, er, mount it and then do swapon on it.08:52
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EightiesKhello08:53
MeshGearFox:D08:53
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EightiesKI use Fedora Cores grub booter but i wanna erase my fc4 to install react os. how would i go about doing that so i can keep kubuntu and windows and now react os08:54
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MeshGearFoxEighties: I don't know much about this, but I know there are Kubuntu/Ubuntu tutorials on installing XP AFTER kubuntu.08:55
MeshGearFoxWhich messes up GRUB somehow, and, like, knocks Linux out of it, or just stops it from running and boots to windows by default.08:55
EightiesK!grub08:55
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting08:55
MeshGearFoxAnyway, if you haven't checked those, I THINK the same principles should apply.08:56
MeshGearFox!swap08:56
ubotuwell, swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq08:56
KaoticEvilhow easy (or difficult) is it to compile a new kernel under kubuntu (breezy)?08:59
KaoticEvilis it any more difficult than under any other distro? and can i simply go to kernel.org and get the latest and go from there?08:59
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trooper00KatoicEvil: use the debian method for compiling your kernel (make-kpkg, etc). shoud be some howtos listed in google09:02
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KaoticEvilhmmmm... ok09:02
trooper00KaoticEvil: : use the debian method for compiling your kernel (make-kpkg, etc). shoud be some howtos listed in google.. but yeah, you could just get the latest kernel and compile it as you would on any distro09:03
KaoticEviltrooper00> the reason i ask, is my wireless card requires ndiswrapper to run under linux...09:03
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trooper00KaoticEvil: shouldn't matter if you are using the same configuration. get the latest source.. use the configuration you find in /boot, tweak with care.. but when its time to compile, use make-kpkg and a deb file will be created for you.09:05
KaoticEvilok, wool09:05
KaoticEvilcool even09:05
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KaoticEvilok, well thanks trooper00 :)09:08
MeshGearFoxHahah. I typoed and made a sawp file.09:09
MeshGearFoxI suck at the linux >:D09:09
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DevGethttp://pastebin.se/2312 <- why?09:11
yellohey does anyone know how to run mp3s on linux ?09:11
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yelloanyone? lol09:12
KillerKiwi2005yello: try automatax09:12
trooper00i think you need to apt-get istall libmad009:12
yellothanks09:12
yello:D09:12
trooper00lots of typos tonight09:13
yellowhere would i get that09:13
KillerKiwi2005for the lazy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656309:14
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yellothanks :D09:14
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yellohi im really sorry im a real noob i was just wondering i came up with an error about "configuring zenity"09:22
yellowhat does that mean?09:22
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KillerKiwi2005yello: did you follow the kubuntu directions? or the ubuntu?09:25
yellothe kubuntu ones09:27
yelloi almost did the ubuntu one (cos i thought ubuntu and kubuntu were the same)09:28
KillerKiwi2005so you've installed zenity?09:28
yellobut i didnt09:28
KillerKiwi2005wget http://kambing.vlsm.org/ubuntu/pool/main/z/zenity/zenity_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb09:28
KillerKiwi2005sudo dpkg -i zenity_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb09:28
yellohmm i must have09:28
yelloyea i did the wget09:28
KillerKiwi2005and the sudo command?09:29
yellonope09:29
yelloi didnt do that one09:29
KillerKiwi2005you need to do every line09:29
yellook09:29
yelloso how do i uninstall zenity?09:29
KillerKiwi2005wget does not install it just downloadws a file09:29
yelloah ok09:30
KillerKiwi2005just start the commands again09:30
yelloim retrying09:30
yelloi just pmd u the output09:31
yellobut i dont think it worked09:31
yello[505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )09:31
yellohow can i send u the output?09:31
KillerKiwi2005use http://pastebin.com/09:32
yellohttp://pastebin.com/56238609:34
yelloi tried the last command twice09:35
trooper00if all you want is to play an mp3, i think all you need is the libmad0 package09:35
yellook09:36
yellosudo apt-get install libmad0 ?09:36
trooper00yup09:36
trooper00!repos09:37
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:37
yellohttp://pastebin.com/56238709:37
yelloi already did that i opened them all09:37
yellook im installing using adept09:39
yellodamn it froze09:39
yellohow do u unfreeze/force quit in linux09:39
trooper00telling you. all you need is libmad0 to play mp3s. heh09:39
yelloyea im about to download09:39
yellobut adept froze on em09:39
yello*me09:40
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yellothanks09:41
yelloits all working09:41
yellolibmad009:41
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yellothanku so much09:41
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yellohey all does anyone know how to use custom system icons for example the ricebowl icon set on kde look09:48
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_davidhey, I heard that the kubuntu dapper install is from a livecd, do you why there is for the alpaha (flight 4) release still an install and livecd version for download?09:54
alcrosHi, I just installed kubuntu but when it starts leaves me at the getty, no graphical login nor kde09:57
alcrosany ideas?09:57
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jewstercolliesdid you so a server install09:59
DeLeonhello09:59
alcrosno09:59
alcrosI installed normally10:00
jewstercolliescan you startx10:00
alcrosno,10:00
alcrosI installed the fglrx driver for the ATI video card10:00
OculusAquilaehi10:00
OculusAquilaedoes anobody know how to get the Output of "startkde"?10:01
alcrosbut 'ati' or 'fglrx' fail to load10:01
alcrosstartx gives me the following message: fatal server error: Module load failure10:03
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DeLeondoes someone knows any undernet server name?10:05
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_davidalcros: try modprobe fglrx10:05
jewstercollieswhat ati card10:05
haakonnhi, how to upgrade to kde 3.5.1? i've put ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu in my sources.list, but there only seems to be 3.5.0 packages there10:06
alcrosno, it didn't work, it is an ati radeon 200M10:07
alcrosbut fglrx is loaded according to lsmod10:08
haakonnin fact all the mirrors linked to from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php seems to only have 3.5.0 packages, judging from the file names10:08
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DHGEhaakonn: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351/ breezy main10:21
haakonnDHGE:  ah, 3.5.1 filenames, finally :) though i usually try to avoid using "main" sites10:21
DHGEput up a mirror ;-)10:22
haakonnnaah :)10:23
haakonnkubuntu.org is damn fast anyway10:23
haakonnin fact i didn't know my dsl could pull that much10:23
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VincentMXhi11:10
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Otishi people .... I've installed w32codecs and KMPlayer ... when I click on a WMV that's on my HD, KMPlayer starts ok but it says "Player mplayer Not Running" .... any ideas what's wrong ?11:20
Otis(I've tried a lot of howtos found on various forums)11:20
hugelmopfOtis: have you tried playing it directly in mplayer?11:20
Otishm, good point ... let me see11:22
Otishehe .... ok, looks like I just haven't got mplayer ... sorry, I'm thick11:22
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Otis(all the howtos just said install w32codecs and a couple more things "et voila" but no)11:23
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Otishugelmopf: it doesn't appear in Synaptic ... do I need to add a source to my sources.list file ?11:24
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hugelmopfOtis: one second, let me check. (where did you get kmplayer from?)11:24
Otishugelmopf: or do I need to go and find a deb package somewhere to install it ?11:24
Otislet me check11:24
Otishttp://mysite.verizon.net/vze1ui63/debs/kmplayer.0.9.1a.tar.gz11:25
Otissome random dude basically :-)11:25
hugelmopfOtis: mplayer-586 is in multiverse11:26
Otisaha ... I guess I don't have multiverse enabled in my sources.list (would have sworn)11:26
Otisme go see11:26
OtisI guess it would have been clever to check this out first : http://kmplayer.kde.org11:27
Otistee-hee11:27
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OtisI don't see mplayer-586* in Synaptic .... isn't this URL enough to see "multiverse" deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse11:30
Otis?11:30
hugelmopfOtis: no, this is only multiverse component of "breezy-backports". you will also need it for "breezy" itself11:30
Otisah ok (still figuring out the sources thing) ... can you recommend a URL ?11:31
Otisor do I just need to add a slightly modified version of that URL ?11:31
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hugelmopfdeb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse11:31
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hugelmopfthis is what your breezy line should look like if you are from the netherlands11:31
Otishugelmopf: ok, I'll do that, thanks11:31
hugelmopfOtis: don't replace the breezy-backports line with this, but the breezy line!11:32
Otisyep11:33
hugelmopfOtis: btw... http://archive.czessi.net has fairly trustworthy breezy packages for kmplayer11:33
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hugelmopfand more kde multimedia stuff.  apt line:  "deb http://archive.czessi.net breezy stable stable-updates"11:34
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Otishugelmopf: I'm having trouble building a satisfactory URL for the sources.list file ... trial-and-error11:37
OtisI'll stick your last one in there11:37
hugelmopfOtis: there is not only one URL, but you can place arbitrarily many sources in there.11:38
hugelmopfOtis: have you read the wiki page about that?11:38
Otisoh, I need some key11:38
OtisI'll go check ... the wiki ? which wiki ?11:38
hugelmopf!sources11:39
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:39
OtisI'm guessing I should browse to that url11:39
hugelmopflook at ubotus information11:39
OtisI'm familiar with "how to add sources" I'm doing that right now ... it's a matter of getting the right URLs11:39
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hugelmopf!easysource11:39
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:39
Otisah, that looks good11:40
Otisoh neat !11:40
hugelmopfabout czessi.net (which is not included in the source-o-matic), look at http://www.czessi.net/apt.php?i18n=de11:41
hugelmopferr, sorry, that was the german version.11:42
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Otisfrustration slowly growing here.... synaptic throws loads of errors on archive.czessi.net URLs11:46
OtisI'll try something else11:47
Otismade with source-o-matic11:47
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hugelmopfyou don't have to use it, especially not if you find everything you need in the official repositories11:47
hugelmopfbut are the "frustrating" (errhmmm) errors probably just warnings about the missing gpg key?11:48
OtisI forget the details, I'll paste some stuff if I run into it with the other URLs I'm trying out11:49
OtisCouldn't stat source package list ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy/main Packages11:50
Otisstill no mplayer *grrrr*11:51
Otisthat's the error I was getting with the czessi link too11:51
hugelmopfdid you update?11:51
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Otisduh ... last time yes, not this time ...11:51
Otisinsane ... still no joy ... I must be missing something (I *did* do the gpg commands to insert the keys)11:52
Otisok, I'll give the czessi links another try11:53
hugelmopfif you are not afraid of the command line, your best bet is to do a "sudo apt-get update" there11:53
hugelmopfand if errors appear, paste them in the pastebin11:53
hugelmopfincluding your sources.list11:53
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Otishugelmopf: no, not afraid ... just tend to use a GUI where available ... brb with the results11:54
hugelmopfOtis: i know. GUI's are fine, just for support via IRC sometimes a bit difficult.11:54
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Otishugelmopf: wow, this is starting to get silly .... got the keys installed for czessi ... still no mplayer11:57
OtisI'll try an apt-get mplayer from cmd line11:57
hugelmopfOtis: if you need help, paste your sources.list, output of "sudo apt-get update" and output of "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" in kubuntu.pastebin.com11:58
Otisok, shall do ... you're a star11:58
Otishang on .... I should have "multiverse" on the end of the czessi line11:59
OtisI'll add that now11:59
hugelmopfno11:59
hugelmopfdeb http://archive.czessi.net breezy stable stable-updates12:00
hugelmopfthis line means: binary debs of the "stable" and "stable-updates" components of czessi's repository for release "breezy" can be found at http://archive.czessi.net12:01
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Otisah ok12:01
Otishttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/56247912:04
Otisplease ?12:04
OtisI just need to do the 2nd command above12:04
hugelmopfthis looks fine12:04
hugelmopfnow you can try to install mplayer-586 and kmplayer12:05
hugelmopf"sudo apt-get install mplayer-586"12:05
hugelmopfsorry12:05
hugelmopfi overlooked one thing. you still don't have multiverse for breezy activated.12:06
hugelmopfdid you paste your sources.list ?12:06
Otishttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/56248212:06
Otiser no, let me do that12:06
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Otismaybe it's good to know that I got kmplayer from some website somewhere12:07
hugelmopfdon't worry about kmplayer yet.12:07
Otismaybe that's what's causing the problem12:07
hugelmopfno12:07
hugelmopfi know what your problem is, i just need your sources.list to fix it12:07
Otishttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/56248512:07
Otishere you go12:08
Otishugelmopf: I figured I was missing the multiverse bit ! :-)12:08
OtisI tried to add it myself but with no joy ... not sure how to build a source URL from scratch12:08
Otisand browsing czessi doesn't exactly inspire12:08
Otis;-)12:09
hugelmopfone sec12:09
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hugelmopfmake these two changes, then do a "sudo apt-get update" and it should work: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/56248712:10
hugelmopfthe explanation: before, you only had multiverse activated for the breezy-backports repository (which is only supplementary to breezy), not for the breezy repository itself.12:11
Otisyay12:12
Otisthat was it12:12
Otisno need for czessi or other stuff ... just needed adding the multiverse to my existing lines ... THANKS !12:12
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hugelmopfOtis: correct. but if you want a repository, where you can get kmplayer (and updates for it), you need czessi12:13
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Otisoh ok12:13
Otisahem ... E: I wasn't able to locate file for the liblame0 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.12:13
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OtisI guess I have to put the czessi link back in to sources.list, right ?12:14
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hugelmopfno. when did this error happen?12:14
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OtisI did a reload in Synaptic, searched for mplayer, saw the good packages (yay!) and marked for install ...12:15
Otiswhile it's installing it's selected a whole bunch of dependants ... and then that error12:15
hugelmopfcan you do "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" and paste its output?12:16
Otisyup12:16
OtisWOW, it worked this time12:18
Otis*ergh* ?????12:18
Otisah well, not complaining ;-)12:18
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hugelmopfmaybe you had some strange selections saved in synaptic12:18
Otissooooo ... let's see if it works now !12:18
Otisalways possible I guess12:18
Otishehe, it starts !12:19
hugelmopfOtis: kmplayer or mplayer?12:20
Otismplayer12:21
Otisnow for kmplayer12:21
hugelmopftry it with the one you have already installed12:22
MetaMorfoziShey! where i can warn about my country's name is mispelled? http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php12:22
MetaMorfoziSsee: hungry:)12:22
MetaMorfoziSnot hungary:)12:22
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Otishugelmopf: ah, well .... KMplayer tells me "Player mplayer Buffering" ... but it doesn't play12:25
hugelmopfmaybe it needs a second for buffering12:25
hugelmopfor is it local?12:25
Otishugelmopf: I got to go for a while ... thanks for all the help so far12:25
Otishugelmopf: local file12:25
Otisalready played nicely from mplayer .... I guess I have to configure KMplayer properly12:25
hugelmopfyep... good luck12:25
Otischeers12:25
Otishugelmopf: WEIRD ! KMPlayer has started showing the vid !12:27
Otisit just seems to take forever to start playing back12:28
hugelmopfand does it play ok?12:28
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OtisI'm going to uninstall this KMplayer (doubtful origin) and see if czessi has a more reliable one12:28
hugelmopfyes, sounds like a plan.12:28
Otishugelmopf: well it looked ok for the 10s I let it play12:29
Otisok, MUST have lunch with wife and baby :-)12:29
hugelmopfmaybe the wmv is not the file, but only a link to a URL?12:29
hugelmopfok12:29
Otistalk later and thanks a lot12:29
hugelmopflaters12:29
Otis(no, got a 4 MB file there on the HD)12:29
Otischeers12:29
Otisl8r12:29
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_timhi everyone12:39
dingohi12:40
_timdoes anyone know anything about thumb drives and kubuntu iv been searching on google for info cos i always get this error - An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:12:40
_timlol dingo are u dingo_aus :D12:41
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dingo:D12:41
dingotim are you sailing the bluesea of adventure?12:41
_timthats me :D12:42
dingoso what is the prob with your thumb (drive)12:42
_timill talk on kopete one sec :D12:42
_timr u on?12:42
dingoyup12:43
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digitaldeathhey all12:53
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_timhi12:59
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slow-motionhallo01:01
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Otishugelmopf: hi it's me again !01:11
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Otismplayer works fine ... kmplayer doesn't seem to work though .... there are errors in its console ... would you have a minute to check it out ?01:11
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Otishehe, google has some good hits on that01:14
ulaashello i have a dapper issue with kde-print. should i shoot here or ubuntu-devel01:15
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Otisfleh ... giving up on kmplayer for today01:22
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fjellrev1I was on the verge of crasping tv-out with my nvidia card,when I booted up it showed everything clearly on my tv,when x started it went crazy. Anyone able to help me?02:33
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simonehi guy!02:39
simonesomeone can help me? I want to change my default soundcard02:39
simonehow do I do?02:40
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dst20bonjour a tous02:42
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dst20je cherche a installer une clef usb wifi pour ubuntu02:43
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Cainusanyone know if there's a way to turn off the wacky firewall stuff?02:46
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Cainusincoming ports are being blocked somehow02:50
Cainusmessing with iptables is getting annoying since I have a firewall between this computer and the internet already02:51
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Cainusso I'd like to turn off whatever firewall is running (i assume there is, since incoming ports appear to be blocked)02:53
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tbenitahi, how can I net-install kubuntu ?03:05
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Kamping_Kaiserafaik you cant03:07
Tm_Tyou can03:09
Tm_Tusing debian netinstall discs03:09
Tm_Twith little tweak03:09
tbenitaTm_T, is there some doc on that ?03:11
tbenitaTm_T, is it just reconfiguring the sources.list ?03:11
Tm_TI think so03:12
Tm_Tno idea about docs03:12
Cainussoo... anyone know how to turn off the firewall stuff?03:14
RodniIs it possible to back up my data to a network computer using the command line? My GUI crashed and I can only enter in recovery.03:16
tbenitaok thx Kamping_Kaiser Tm_T03:16
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mnoirwhere is the setting to start an app on a specific desktop - i seem to have lost it!03:18
tbenitaRodni, you can do an archive using tar (tar cvfz myarchive.tgz /home for example )  and copy the archive to whereever you want with ftp, scp or anything03:19
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RodniSounds good, all I need to do is back up a single folder from home. The rest I have on a seperate hard disk.03:21
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RodniWhat command do I use to do that?03:22
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Kalidarnhmm anyone tried to compile qualculate-kde? the a graphics calculator http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88877 says it compiles properly yet im not sure how and unfortunatly its only in the dapper repo.03:22
Kalidarn*qalculate-KDE03:22
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tbenitaRodni, as root : "tar cvfz /tmp/home.tgz /home" and "scp /tmp/home.tgz 192.168.0.1:/tmp/" to copy it to the machine 192.168.0.1 via ssh03:23
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_tijnhi all03:25
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Rodnioh thanks03:28
RodniI hope this works03:29
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RodniWait! I have a folder in my home directory called 'Movies'. Can you tell me how to tar only that one and send it across the network/03:30
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Rodnido I just replace 'home' with 'movies' folder?03:31
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mnoir~username/movies would work03:32
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Ploujhi03:33
mnoir\/movies would not03:33
Ploujwhen I install root (/) on an LVM partition, shouldn't (k)ubuntu crate an initrd for me?03:34
PloujI wasn't able to make LILO install on the ubuntu partition either, so03:34
PloujI chose the no boot loader option03:34
Ploujand it told me to use these boot options for my other bootloader:03:34
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Ploujkernel = /boot/vmlinuz, root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root, kernel args= root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root03:35
Ploujhowever, I don't think grub can actually read LVM volumes03:35
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LacertaHi. I want to copy all data from my current HD to a new one. What's the best way to do that?03:40
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_tijnhow do i use the bot?03:44
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GeniusDexi have grub installed on (hd0) (sda), and i want to boot winXP from (hd1,2) (hda3), but when i use the default windows lines in the grub config it just hangs after the 'boot' command03:45
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jarlathAfter a few installation attempt, I have finally gotten kubuntu working near perfect. Put I never made a seperate partition for files (incase I need to reinstall). Can I shrink hda1 and add another partition? I read about something like partition magic for linux in a magazine a while back, but I dont recall what it was and what it did.03:48
MetaMorfoziSLacerta: mc03:48
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MetaMorfoziS(midnight commander) apt-get install mc03:49
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mnoirLacerta: be careful -  if it is a disk containing an os, there are some directories that might not copy the way you want - like /dev and /proc03:51
Lacertai just kinda want to move this crap to a faster HD03:52
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tafsenCan you change the information on mp3's trough amaroK?03:57
_alexa program to record video on kde ?03:58
_tijnif i recall correct.. nope03:58
_tijntafsen: i think it gets is info from the dj music db... not sure03:59
tafsen_tijn: the meta-tag?03:59
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_tijntafsen: dunno04:01
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_tijntafsen: is you right click, you can change the meta info04:03
Nomad411Woudl anyone know the name of that sofware that show you a ton of streaming radios to pick from?  It had a green play button as the icon for it..04:04
_tijntafsen: right click -> properties -> meta-info04:04
GeniusDexlive365?04:04
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Nomad411those are a category in it.,.  Somwthing stream I think ..  Oh!!  streamtuner ?04:05
Nomad411yes!04:05
Nomad411I just needed to type it outloud.. lol04:05
_tijnhehe04:05
_tijnbtw, where do i get libdvdcss2?04:05
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hugelmopf!libdvdcss204:06
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)04:06
_tijnthnx!04:07
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_tijnto use bot-commands, do i need to be registered?04:07
tafsen_tijn: right click > edit track info ?04:07
hugelmopfLacerta: you still looking for an answer? if the new HD is bigger then the old one, you want to use "dd"04:08
Lacertaa lot bigger04:08
Lacertai'm copying the files now with mc04:09
hugelmopfLacerta: that won't help if it is a system disk04:09
Lacertak..?04:09
Nomad411one last question: in kde, if a window extends outside of the window where we can,t grab teh title bar, we can use ALT-drag to grab it from any area.  Is there a similar thing in fluxbox?04:09
hugelmopfLacerta: as mnoir pointed out, there are some directories which need special treatment. it might be easier to make a bit-by-bit copy with dd04:09
Lacertaumm.. is it very complicated command?04:10
hugelmopfLacerta: then you only need to reinstall the master boot record (in case it is your primary disk), and everything should work exactly as the old one.04:10
hugelmopfLacerta: the dd command is not very difficult04:10
hugelmopfLacerta: but it would be best to use it from a knoppix cd, so that the disk you want to copy is not in use. is it your primary (system) disk?04:11
_alexa program to record video of my desktop?04:11
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Lacertahugelmopf: yes this is my primary disk04:12
hugelmopf_alex: what about searching? http://www.google.de/linux?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=record+desktop+video&btnG=Suche&meta=04:12
_alexi want to make a video of my desktop04:13
hugelmopf_alex: yes, and i presented you a straightforward search with google yielding the results you are looking for?04:14
mnoirLacerta: be careful -  if it is a disk containing an os, there are some directories that might not copy the way you want - like /dev and /proc04:14
mnoirsorry04:14
mnoirfatfinger!04:14
hugelmopfLacerta: do you know knoppix?04:14
Lacertahugelmopf: you mean LiveCD?04:14
_alexno04:14
mnoirLacerta: it is not technically elegant but you might consider reinstalling os on the bigger diak and copying only what you need - this is what often do04:15
mnoirwhat 'I' often do...04:15
hugelmopfLacerta: knoppix is a live cd, but not the ubuntu LiveCD, you are probably referring to. but the ubuntu one should also work fine.04:15
manveruyou cannot install the ubuntu-live-cd04:16
hugelmopfmanveru: did you read our conversation?04:16
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manveruno, just throwing in random pieces of memories04:16
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hugelmopfLacerta: it is not easy enough to do it in 5 minutes without knowing about hard drives, partitions, master boot record, grub.04:19
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LacertaI just don't want to have all the trouble again as i was tweaking the current system04:20
Cainushey...can anyone give me a definitive list of repositories?  apt-get can't find java or azureus, and I've enabled every repository in the default file, and I've done an apt-get update04:21
Snake__Cainus: those arn't avalible in the repos04:22
Snake__Cainus: blackdown java is I think, but not sun04:22
Cainusdo I need sun?04:22
Snake__Nope04:22
Snake__!java04:23
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:23
Cainussome ubuntu docs said apt-get install j2re1.4 would work04:23
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Snake__Yes that would give you blackdown04:23
Cainusk... but it doesn't :)04:23
Snake__Cainus: try this04:23
Snake__sudo apt-get install j2re1.404:23
CainusE: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate04:23
hugelmopfLacerta: i understand what you mean, and it is absolutely possible. first thing to do is making an exact copy bit by bit with the command "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb" where /dev/hda would be the hard drive you want to copy to /dev/hdb. but you want to do this from a LiveCD, so that /dev/hda does not change while you are copying it bit-by-bit04:23
Snake__odd....04:24
Snake__Cainus: you have your universe enabled?04:24
CainusAFAIK04:24
Cainuslemme double-check04:24
Snake__Cainus: if you enabling through adept, DONT FORGET TO HIT APPLY BEFORE YOU CLOSE04:25
hugelmopfLacerta: but you should read a good tutorial on dd somewhere on the net first.04:25
Snake__To many people arn't dong that :)04:25
Snake__*04:25
Snake__doing**04:25
CainusSnake: what should the line look like that enables universe/multiverse?04:27
CainusI've got every line enabled anyway :\04:27
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Snake__Cainus: This is for you04:27
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Snake__!sources04:27
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:27
Lacertahugelmopf: i'm going to try that dd thing. thanks04:27
hugelmopfLacerta: this here explains it a bit: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=36250604:27
Snake__Cainus: Follow the first link, scroll alll the way down to where it says "kubuntu" and the adept instructions are04:28
CainusSnake__: yeah I copied all those lines in too04:28
Cainusbeen to this page already04:28
Snake__alright04:28
Snake__and your sure you hit apply before you hit close?04:28
Cainusyeah04:28
Cainuscan I just copy this page right into my sources file?04:29
Cainusadept kinda seems to get in the way a lot04:29
Snake__Type in apt-cache search blackdown04:29
Cainusreturns with no output04:30
Snake__*smashes head on desk04:30
Snake__okay, heres what I want you to do04:30
Snake__type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then pastebin the list, and give me the link04:30
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marcushallo zusammen04:33
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marcushab mal ne frage,unter ubuntu wurden die verfgbaren updates automatisch angezeigt.ist das mit kubuntu auch mglich ?04:33
skypaI'm afraid english is the preferred language here :)04:34
djibdoes anyone knows a tool to defragment a fat disk under linux ?04:34
CainusSnake__: http://pastebin.com/56274904:35
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djibCainus: do you really need the src in your sources ?04:36
Snake__Cainus: Clear that whole thing out, and just put this list un04:36
Snake__in*04:36
Snake__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604704:37
jarlathMy system froze just there and I had to pull the plug. I noticed on bootup that no "cleanup" was performed. Is there anything I need to do? Mandriva used to do something on bootup, like clean unused device nodes etc.04:37
Cainusdjib: I was just adding stuff various docs were telling me, trying to get this to work... :\04:37
Snake__Heh thats what I thought04:37
Snake__Cainus: Backspace your whole list, and go to where I said, just use that 104:38
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Cainusahhh04:40
Cainusworks...04:41
Cainusfinally :)04:41
Cainusthanks Snake__04:41
Snake__Did you find your package?04:41
Cainusyessir04:41
Snake__Yess04:41
Snake__:)04:41
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Snake__Good job m804:41
Cainusit's too bad sources.list could have these repositories by default04:41
Snake__Cainus: and azurus isn't in the repos im afraid04:41
Cainuser couldn't04:41
Cainushmm it was in the debian repositories... are those different?04:42
Snake__Cainus: im sure they would do that, but since its all from outside sources, their protecting your system, and since it contains some files illigal in certain countrys, they are also saving themselves legal trouble04:42
Snake__Cainus: yes they diffrent04:42
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djibdoes anyone knows a tool to defragment a fat disk under linux ?04:42
Cainusahh okay04:42
Cainuson debian, I did apt-get install azureus and it even installed all the java crap I need :\04:43
Cainusbut I can do a bit more typing as long as it works04:43
tafsenI've downloaded a demo version of the Game Northland. It's *.run file. How do I install it?04:43
Snake__Cainus: The magic of debs: all dependecys taken care of (java would be a dependency)04:43
Snake__Cainus: Just go to their site and download it, no complie is needed or anything like that04:43
Cainusyeah I was having probs with that bzipped version04:44
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Snake__Why?04:44
Cainuswell port problems04:44
_qballhello people! :-)04:44
Snake__Cainus: then thats A) with your router, or B) You need to open it in the settings04:45
_qballAnyone here in the mood to help a n00b with a quick question about mounting?04:45
Snake__Cainus: orr, if your using the default port, most ISPs now block that04:45
Snake___qball: just ask04:45
Snake__if someone can help, they will04:45
_qballok I used mount /dev/hda1 /media/partitionname -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 to mount a FAT32 drive but it wont let me copy a folder to the partition04:46
CainusSnake__: I had all this running on the same box on debian just a few days ago... so I doubt it's my isp, and I'm good enough with the router to know I've got that right...04:46
_qballI also used umas=777 made no difference04:46
_qballcheers Snake_04:46
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Snake___qball: Hmmm I know your missing something...but I dont know what..04:46
Snake__like......ugh, let me think04:46
Cainusif I switch the port-frowarding to my windows box, azureus works fine from there04:47
_qballwell thats directly from the Ubuntu guide04:47
_qballit mentions nothing about permissions though04:47
Cainusi'll figure it out sooner or later ;)04:47
Snake__Hehe04:47
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Massacrationhi everyone04:49
Snake___qball: your fat partition is hda1 right?04:49
Massacrationhow do I update my KDE 3.5.0 to the 3.5.104:49
Massacration?04:49
Snake__!kde35104:49
ubotuSnake__: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:49
Snake__ughh04:49
hatake_kakashilol, its on the website :)04:50
Snake__Massacration: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php04:50
_qballbugger how do I copy something from the console?04:50
_qballmount /dev/hda8 /media/MP3Drive -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=00004:50
MassacrationI know but it didn work04:50
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_qballthatst he command I used which just has the drive and mountpoint information changed04:51
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tecs anyone here who knows who owns a 720 c hp printer04:51
Snake___qball: are you sure your mounting the right thing? are you sure its hda8?04:51
_qballye04:51
_qballyes04:51
_qballthe folders show up fine04:51
Snake___qball: what error are you gettings04:52
_qballI just cant copy a folder into that partition/folder04:52
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Snake__into what folder04:52
neoncodeHey is it possible to connect to a Kwallet on another computer - because I have serveral computers in my LAN and sometimes I want to connect to some internet site but I carn't because the password is in my Kwallet on my main computer.04:52
_qballAccess denied04:52
Snake___qball: what folder are you trying to copy them to04:52
ejofeewhat is the name of the config file for motif?04:52
_qballIm copying into /media/MP3Drive/04:53
Snake__okay....try to copy the file via the command line with sudo04:53
_qballok.......... eh whats the command?04:53
Snake__The terminal04:53
Snake__Konsole04:53
Snake__The consol04:53
Snake__e04:53
Snake__CLI04:53
_qballk04:53
Snake__Many names :)04:53
_qball whats the command for coyping?04:55
_tijncp04:55
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_qballok04:55
_qballcp <source> <desintation> what do I need for all files/subfolders etc04:56
Snake___qball: cp /orignal/file/here /where/your/moving/file/here04:56
_qballok will try that04:56
Snake___qball: hey man, I got to help a friend for a second. Sorry04:57
Snake__im sure someone could help04:57
_qballk04:57
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_qballok well it says ommiting the origional directory04:57
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_qballwhats the keyboard command to use when I hightlight something in the console and then want to copy that?05:00
_qballctrl + C doesnt seem to wrok05:00
_qballwork05:00
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visik7just press central mouse button05:00
visik7and it'll paste05:00
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_qballeh dont have one05:00
RodniI couldnt work this out because it looked to complicated so I decided to reinstall kubuntu in order to back up my folder. What should I do in the partition screen not to delete my curent home folder?05:00
visik7_qball: press left and right simultaneously05:01
_qballk05:01
_qballcp -r /home/qball/MoboDrivers/ /media/MP3Drive/MoboDrivers/05:01
_qballah there ye go that worked05:01
_qballOk Cheers guys ye have been spectacular, I think Im going to play around with Konversation for a while see05:02
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Rodnido I highlite the root partition and simply press enter/05:02
dbakkerim a debian user who just went to breezy, how do I get to dapper?05:03
visik7dbakker: change breezy to dapper in sources.list and dist-upgrade05:03
Pingjockeydbakker: I am pretty sure you can just update your sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade to the new repos.05:04
Pingjockeydbakker: I have gone from testing to unstable that way before inside debian05:04
PDD_IE ok very strange, how come I can't put the font color picker for Konversation on a lil menu or something that I can click rather than using keyboard shortcuts05:04
dbakkercool ill give it a shot, ty05:05
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PDD_IEanybody got any ideas?05:06
PingjockeyWith the release of dapper 4 I should be able to use apt to sync everything up to latest right?05:06
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Rodnihelp me with partitions :(05:08
ryanakcahmmm.... if I install gimp 2.2.10 using the .debs from here: http://packages.debian.org/testing/graphics/gimp  , will it still work on Kubuntu breezy?05:08
PingjockeyRodni: whats the issue05:08
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RodniPingjockey my Kubuntu is kaput. I want to reinstall it but not lose the data in my home folder.05:09
RodniIm currently at the partition screen on the installer05:09
PingjockeyRodni: Where is your home folder located?05:09
Rodnion a seperate partition05:09
Rodnilogical /media/hd605:09
Rodnihda6 sorry05:10
Pingjockeywell you can approach this from a few different ways.... do you have an external hard drive?05:11
Rodnino05:11
Pingjockeyhmm...05:11
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Pingjockeywhats going to be your new partioning scheme?05:12
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RodniI want to keep it current and just make kubuntu work05:12
_tijnif its on a seperate partition05:12
_tijnits ok05:12
ryanakcarodni: My home folder is kinda small, so I just used knoppix, got the folder, tarballed it, and ftped it to my other box05:12
Rodnibut Im not sure what options to select05:12
_tijnonly manually edit the partition on which you want to install05:12
PingjockeyThats what I was going to suggest next ryanakca good call05:13
ryanakcapingjockey: ty05:13
ryanakcahmmm.... if I install gimp 2.2.10 using the .debs from here: http://packages.debian.org/testing/graphics/gimp  , will it still work on Kubuntu/Ubuntu breezy?05:13
Pingjockeywhats wrong with your current installation rodni... maybe we can recover it05:13
_tijnyou van mount hda6 as /home05:13
Rodniwell it shows me my current partitions, so do I just select the one which is root and press enter to install there only?05:13
Pingjockeyryanakca: not sure if you can mix like that05:14
RodniIt was a kernel error due to a broken installation05:14
RodniI can access only recovery mode05:14
ryanakcaPingjockey: kk, thanks... I was hoping not to have to compile from source... when I compile things... I allwais tend to mess up my computer :)05:14
PingjockeyRodni: ok, well what did you change.... did you try to compile a custom kernel or do you have new hardware...?05:15
tecshow about the updates in software updates is it adviceable to update?05:16
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PingjockeyRodni: sorry a broken installation..05:16
RodniNo, like I said I tried to install VLC and nvidia drivers and next thing I cant boot to kubuntu anymore05:16
RodniFatal Error of some kind in the mvcmr or something like that05:16
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RodniI think i remember it was line 4805:17
Pingjockeyhmm.... never played with recovery mode.. does the network work in reocvery mode?05:17
Rodnibut wont bet on it05:17
RodniI dont know05:17
Pingjockeywhat about aptitude?05:17
RodniI dont know network commands to transfer stuff out to other pc05:17
Pingjockeyyou can always uninstall the files using apt that broke the installation to start with05:17
Rodnisounds too much of a hassle for me, especially not knowing the command line.05:18
Rodnithats why I procceded with the kubuntu disk in order to somehow reinstall to its original state05:19
Rodnijust not sure how do I make the home partition safe so it wont get erazed05:19
RodniAs soon as I get into kubuntu again Im happy.05:19
Pingjockeyits easy.. boot into recovery mode and launch aptitude.... should be there.... its like synaptic but for the cli... but if you want to reinstall I would just make seperate parititons... and install / to one of those partions....05:20
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Pingjockeyyup just checked... aptitude is installed by default05:21
Pingjockeydid you use synaptic to install nvidia-kernel?05:21
Rodniok say I cancel this and go to aptitude. What does that do?05:21
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RodniI used the kubuntu packet manager05:21
RodniApget?05:22
RodniAdet?05:22
Pingjockeyit will bring you into a ncurses like verison of adpet or synapitc...05:22
MetaMorfoziSadept05:22
Rodniah thats the one05:22
Pingjockeysorry typo... lack of coffee05:22
MetaMorfoziSsynaptic is better than adept i think.05:22
PingjockeyI concur05:22
MetaMorfoziSsynaptic can search in the descriptions etc..05:23
PingjockeyI like kpackage as well05:23
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MetaMorfoziSand tell me what size of the all downloads before start ...05:23
MetaMorfoziSi didn't try kpackage..05:23
Rodniso if I get into aptitude then use apt-get upgrade, my system should be up and running?05:23
Pingjockeyanyway Rodni, just do a sudo aptitude and you remember what you installed before everything broke?05:24
Rodnihaha no not really. I used a command I saw on IRC and that was it05:24
PingjockeyRodni: you could just apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade as well05:24
Rodnithats the problem with beginners. We copy what we see here not from a manual in a book05:25
Pingjockeybut we need to see what kernel got installed and such05:25
RodniMy kernel is .1205:25
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Pingjockeyok05:25
Rodniwell actually the default stuff from kubuntu05:25
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RodniFine. Let me cancel this and I will give aptitude a go.05:26
PingjockeyRodni: bear with me because I am just coming over from the gentoo world.. Been there for like 2 1/2 yrs...05:26
PingjockeyDebian stuff is new to me05:26
Rodnino problem05:26
Rodnican I ask why swapped from Gentoo? Most people try to go the other way aroound05:26
PingjockeyI finally got fed up with gentoo and crossed over to kubuntu05:27
_tijngubuntu :P05:27
PingjockeyThe people in there IRC channel pissed me off05:27
dermitriushad enough of building did we? :)05:27
PingjockeyI got a fast machine so building is not all that bad05:27
Pingjockeybut when I asked about how to unmask and install kde 3.5.1 I was told to RTFM05:28
Rodnienough of reading too I guess. The whole gentoo is one big manual on its own05:29
dermitriuswell i have used mandrake/madriva, RH, debian 3 and 3.1 and now im on ubuntu/kubuntu. i think i have found my home :)05:29
RodniIm not doing well with kubuntu and to be honest very very disappointed.05:29
PingjockeyI was polite and said that I had and was unsure of how the command syntax in the package.unmask file... i was told again to go away05:29
dermitriusi'm using dapper release for desktop, using breezy for server05:29
RodniI found so many issues like bugs and other stuff.05:30
PingjockeyRodni: We will get ya through this... no worries pal05:30
dermitriuswell its is debian testing/unstabe what do you expect05:30
PingjockeyDebian testing (well before etch) is relatively stable05:30
dermitriusif it wernt for ubuntu/kubuntu us debian users would be in the darkages :)05:31
PingjockeyI concur with that05:31
Pingjockeyok Rodni whats your ststus?05:31
dermitriussometimes there is benifit to living on the near edge05:32
dermitriusi'm not quite ready to live on the nightly build edge :P05:32
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coollinkhi05:32
RodniIm inside aptitude and overweclomed by a not so bad men05:32
PingjockeyThats what I use to say about gentoo.. of course this is while I was on day 2 of an install05:32
Rodnimenu05:32
Rodniso what exactly should I do, upgrade some packages/05:33
Pingjockeyok well go ahead and quit out of aptitude.. lets see if the nets up first05:33
Rodnik05:33
Rodnidone05:33
dermitriusRodni, before loading aptitude did you add universe and mulitverse to the apt sources list?05:33
Rodnitype apt-get update now?05:33
Pingjockeyok sudo ifconfig and make sure that youe eth0 is up05:33
Rodnidermitrius I doubt it05:33
coollinkCan someone help me? ive jsut instal kunbuntu 5.10 breezy on my satelite m70 sr600 laptop, but i think i have a video card probleme. I can go in desktop mode only console... perhaps my rez screen is to high or my video card is not suport? plz need help, im new onlinux05:34
dermitriusbecause some app are only available there, ok sry05:34
Pingjockeywe can fix that in a sec05:34
RodniI dont need to type sudo, Im already root :P05:34
Pingjockeykl05:34
dermitrius:)05:34
dermitriuscoollink, what video does it have ati mobility?05:34
Rodniok no ip's whatsoever05:34
Rodnieven my router LED is not on05:35
Pingjockeyok, dhclient eth005:35
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dikatlonhello05:35
coollinki have ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 with 128MB DDR video memory.05:35
Pingjockeyalso do a lsmod and lets make sure the module loaded05:35
RodniI typed lsmod and lots of stuff appeared.05:36
Pingjockeycoolink: sounds like you need to get the ATI drivers.. I think its called fglrx or something05:36
Pingjockeywhat about dhclient.. that should have gotten a ip for ya05:36
dikatlonI have some problems with the kubuntu installation. When the dialog is looking for net devices..it hangs.05:36
dermitriuscoolink indeed "apt-get install fglrxcontrol" that should get you somewhere05:37
_tijndikatlon: press alt F305:37
_tijnsee what it says05:37
dikatlonIt's when net/hw-detec.hotplug starts05:37
dikatlon_tijn: I done that05:37
_tijniam afk cya all05:37
_tijnwhat did it say?05:37
dermitriuscoolink you will need to be root05:37
Rodnihmmm it gives me some errors in the resolv.conf file but let me check if its up and running and then I will tell you the full errors05:37
dikatlon_tijn nothing really.05:37
_tijnwierd05:38
_tijnbut iam off sry05:38
dikatlon_tijn: IT starts udev..05:38
dikatlon_tijn: ok :)05:38
Rodniactually yes I have ip address now05:38
Rodniand my LED is on05:38
coollinkok thanks, i will check that05:38
Pingjockeygood, try apt-get update05:38
Rodniyep its cool !!!05:39
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Rodnido upgrade now?05:39
Pingjockeyyeah do a apt-get dist-upgrade05:39
coollinkbut his it possible to change the kde resolution from the command shell?05:39
dermitriuscoollink did the fglrx package and dependicies install ok?05:39
RodniWhen I type that it gives me 3 errors05:39
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Pingjockeycoolink: you could try to manual change your xorg.conf file.... but I would try to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... that may work as well05:40
Rodni:Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock05:40
Pingjockeywhat errors?05:40
coollinkhow can i instal this package?05:40
Rodni:Unable to write to /var/cache/apt05:40
Pingjockeysudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:40
visik7I've a kernel module  (provided with the kernel source) and I need to modify it to fit my needs but I don't want to recompile a new kernel is there a way ?05:40
Rodni:The package list or status file could not be parsed or opened05:40
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dermitriusrodni, i thought you were root?05:41
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RodniNah, I tried but sudo dosent make difference anymore05:41
RodniI am root05:41
Pingjockeyhmm then it should work fine05:41
dermitriuserror in sources.list maybe?05:41
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RodniI messed it up bad :P And Im a linux user for about a week now lol05:41
dermitriuswe have all been there :P05:42
Pingjockeyyeah maybe... try nano -w /etc/apt/source.list and see whats commented out05:42
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Rodniby the way if I try apt-get upgrade it gives me the same errors05:42
Rodniok05:42
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RodniIm in source.list and its blank05:43
PingjockeyI have been a linux user for a while and well upon the advice of a friend I started with gentoo as my first distro... what a mistake that was...05:43
Pingjockeyok, that will do it....05:43
Rodnithere is a lot of options I can choose05:43
Pingjockeysorry it should be sources.list05:44
dermitriusmy first few distros were a nightmare to get somethings going05:44
Pingjockeytypo05:44
coollinkive try to make the  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   but is sayd i must be as root, what that mean?05:44
dermitriusi wished i had pluked up the courage earlier to come to places such as this05:44
Rodniok so how do I quit this nano?05:44
Pingjockeytry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:44
coollinkok thx05:44
Pingjockeycontrol x05:44
dermitriusit prolly would have saved me alot of time, reinstall any windows above 98se is no fun05:45
coollinkwhat mean sudo jsut to know?05:45
Rodnihmmm even sources.list is empty05:45
PingjockeyI will tell you though I learned more about gcc and stuff from gentoo than you can shake a stick at05:45
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Pingjockeysudo mean super user do05:45
Pingjockeyfrom what I hear05:45
zblachhi05:45
coollinkwpw, sound cool :P05:45
Pingjockeyok rodni wait 1 sec05:45
dermitriussuperuser do, rather than su which switches to root05:45
zblachPingjockey, it's also a play on the word 'pseudo'05:45
RodniI dont have much choice :P05:46
Pingjockeysee I learned something new today...05:46
RodniYou guys should open a skype help channel or something05:46
coollinkdo you have a good reference web site for know starting with linux?05:46
Pingjockeyanyone got a breezy sources.list flaoting around05:46
PingjockeyI only have dapper05:46
zblachPingjockey, sure05:46
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dermitriussudo: basically saves you from being root for too long05:46
zblachwhere to?05:46
Pingjockeyjust need a few lines at a time for rodni so we don't flood the channel05:47
zblachok05:47
dermitriuspingjocky, one moment, i'll get the one from my server05:47
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zblachdo you want kde 3.5.1?05:47
Pingjockeynah, I just need to get him up and running now.. we will deal with kde 3.5.1 later05:47
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zblach deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe05:48
zblach deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe05:48
Rodnitype those?05:48
NirvanaPingjockey: to change dapper sources to breezy, just find and replace breezy with dapper05:48
Pingjockeyok rodni cop those into sources.list05:48
zblachtype them into /etc/apt/sources.list05:48
knoppixhi, could anyone pls help me to install grub? i have crashed one of my disks. now installed winxp on disc /dev/hda and my kubuntu should be on /dev/hdc but i don't know how to reinstall grub, to boot into my kubuntu again. currently running knoppix. pls help me05:48
FlakJacketdoes anyone know how to recieve ssid broadcasts in kubuntu?05:48
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zblachdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse05:48
zblachdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse05:48
Pingjockeythanks nirvana did not realize that05:48
zblachdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse05:49
zblachdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse05:49
Nirvanaknoppix: does that mean you can't boot into Kubuntu?05:49
Pingjockeyknoppix, you can install grub from the cli.. open a window.. and launch grub by typing grub.05:49
zblachdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse05:49
Nirvanazblach: no pasting, use pastebin: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com05:49
knoppixNirvana, i don't know how to install grub05:49
dermitriusflakjacket, do you have your wireless driver installed05:49
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zblachok nirv05:49
PingjockeyNirvana: that was my fault.. sorry about that I asked him to do it05:50
zblachRodni, still need those lines?05:50
knoppixPingjockey, what do you mean with cli ? console?05:50
zblachone lieft05:50
zblach**left05:50
Nirvanaknoppix: can you boot into kubu at all? if you can't, your gonna need smart boot manager (a floppy disk, you can google it)05:50
PingjockeyKnoppix yeah05:50
knoppixi am currently running knoppix05:50
ryanakcais there a program that will make compiling from source "easyer" with less chance of me "messing up"?05:50
ryanakcaseeing that I can't install GIMP threw apt or from a .deb file05:51
dermitriusflakjacket, which type/model wireless device05:51
knoppixi can mount my kubuntu hd and can e.g. chroot into it05:51
NirvanaOK05:51
Pingjockeyif your grub conf file is there you can use grub from the command line and just reinstall grub to the mbr.. I thought the conf file was in /boot05:51
Rodniwooow hang on, am I suppose to copy all of them? I just did the first two05:51
Nirvanaknoppix: when you chroot to it, just do an sudo apt-get install grub05:51
Pingjockeyrodni yeah all of them05:51
RodniIts taking me longer because I try not to misspel them05:51
Rodnihmm alright05:52
knoppixNirvana, oh i will try this05:52
Pingjockeyyeah that will work as well knoppix05:52
dermitriusflakjacket, recently tried install a 'cable and wireless' usb adapter in a mates machine and once i had the driver in it got the ssid stright away05:52
frank23ryanakca: why cant use install gimp with adept or synaptic?05:52
ryanakcafrank23: because apt's gimp is GIMP 2.2.8. I want GIMP 2.2.1005:53
frank23oh05:54
Pingjockeyanyone know if the repositres are updated for dapper to reflect flight 4?05:54
frank23ryanakca: there are programs that help compiling from source but i dont know them.  What I do is just  use  checkinstall instead of make install  .05:55
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knoppixNirvana, i've done in my chroot environment apt-get --reinstall grub05:55
Pingjockeygimp is at 2.2.10 in dapper05:55
dermitriuspingjockey, i installed flight 3 when it came out, and today i only had 6 updates, and have had about 30 every 2 days prior to today so i guess so05:55
frank23i makes .deb and installs it.05:55
knoppixNirvana, can i now reboot or do i have to setup something ?05:55
ryanakcaok, so ./configure      make     make checkinstall05:56
ryanakca???05:56
Nirvanaknoppix: didn't it ask you if you had Windows installed or something?05:56
frank23ryanakca:   ./configure   make   sudo checkinstall05:56
ryanakcakk05:56
ryanakcaty05:56
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frank23ryanakca: there is a wiki on this05:56
Nirvanaknoppix: post the output of cat /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com05:56
knoppixnirvana, no questions from apt05:57
Nirvanaknoppix: post the output of cat /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com05:57
FlakJacketbut what if you've already entered an ssid05:57
Pingjockeydermitrius: Cool thanks05:57
Nirvanaknoppix: and if that doesn't have your windows and kubu partitions, you will prolly have to "apt-get remove grub --purge" and 'apt-get install grub'.. in my personal experience, I've found the --reinstall comand to be broken...05:58
RodniOk Pingjockey and zblach Im currently on the last command breezy-backports05:58
dermitriusflakjacket, do you have any windows machines, if so what ssid do they pickup and is the one you enetered the same as that?05:58
Rodnishould I type the de-scr version for that as well?05:59
RodniAre there any more to type?05:59
Al-Dajahttp://pastebin.com/56288405:59
dermitriusflakjacket, another idea might be to remove the interface config or reset the ssid/essid lin to blank06:00
PingjockeyI noticed in adept that alot of the kde packages are not installed anyone know why that maybe? I installed from dapper 306:00
mth`MAWHi someone here, who likes to figure out REALLY weired problems?06:00
knoppixNirvana, i can't see my windows there, will try the purge install procedure you suggest06:00
mth`MAW:D06:00
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coollinkiv try zblach> do you want kde 3.5.1?06:01
coollink<Pingjocke06:01
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coollinksorry06:01
dermitriuspingjockey, i notieced that too, my they lessend the dependancies of kubuntu-desktop06:01
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dermitriusmaybe*06:01
Nirvanamth`MAW: we all like weird probs :P06:01
mth`MAWI only hear sound, from all apps after I suspended to disc06:01
FlakJacketo ok dermitrius06:01
Pingjockeygood example here seems that kde-core is not installed06:02
mth`MAWonly yakuake give a beep via line-out06:02
dermitriusfakjacket, then that might allow it to pickup the ssid :)06:02
knoppixNirvana, there have been no questions again. i have just removed all files in /boot/grub before doing the apt-get install grub06:02
mth`MAWAmarok, bmp, xmms all they look like they are playing something, but I do not hear anything06:02
Rodnihelo? I've done total of 4 lines so far each with deb and deb-scr06:02
coollinkiv try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg tha app ask me lot of question about my display and keyb, but when is choose the refresh rate of my screen i got the folowing message xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwirting possibly-custumized configuration file; bakcup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20060219070006:03
knoppixNirvana, there were none created. i think i have to trigger the process kubuntu uses at installstion time to include all installed operating systems06:03
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coollinkwhat thas mean?06:03
dermitriuspingjockey, my install doesn't have kde-core either :p06:03
Pingjockeyk you should be good to go rodni06:03
djibhey06:04
Rodni...06:04
Nirvanaknoppix: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub06:04
djibhow to see all persons logged in my pc ?06:04
mth`MAWso nobody has an idea?06:04
djibapparently users doesn't show the ssh users06:04
Nirvanaknoppix: otherwise, you have to manually add the windows partitions06:05
Rodnihey can you see me?06:05
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frank23djib:   who06:05
dermitriusthis is the first time ever i have shared my experiances and gained knowledge of linux06:05
Pingjockeyyes rodni06:05
Rodniah ok just checking06:05
djibfrank23: nope06:05
coollinkiv try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg tha app ask me lot of question about my display and keyb, but when is choose the refresh rate of my screen i got the folowing message xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwirting possibly-custumized configuration file; bakcup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.200602190700. is this normal? and what i have to do after?06:05
djibdoesn't show me ssh either frank2306:05
frank23djib: or just the command    w06:05
Rodniso how to save what I typed in Nano?06:06
Pingjockeyjust go ahead and overwrite it.. you uses resolutions that make sense right?06:06
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Pingjockeycontrol o06:06
Pingjockeyto save in nano06:06
coollinkyes i hav echoose rigth resolution? so i reboot?06:06
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Rodniaaaaaaaaa06:06
coollinkthat exit the xserver configuration tool06:06
knoppixNirvana, dpkg-reconfigure grub runs without any output. i tried grub-install /dev/hda. now there are atleast some files in the /boot/grub directory but no menu.lst06:06
Pingjockeycoolink you should not have to reboot...06:07
Rodniit told me Error writing etc/apt/sources/list: no such file or directory06:07
djibfrank23: no, w doens't show me ssh users either06:07
dermitriuscoollink, when is say about the backup, all it is, is a date/time stamped so that you know when it was created06:07
djibthat's scary06:07
Rodnisorry sources.list06:07
coollinkok, but when is ask me my defaut color depth in bits, i set 24, and it exit me from the isntaller and print the warning i told06:07
Pingjockeytry saving it somewhere else then.. we can copy it later...06:07
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Rodnimmm ok06:08
dermitriuscoolink is there a yes/no question to the backup thing?06:08
Nirvanaknoppix: looks like you have to manually create it then06:08
Rodnisave it without s at the end06:08
coollinkno, no question is only a warning, and it return me in the consol06:08
frank23Rodni: did you put a slash before etc?    /etc/apt/sources.list06:08
coollinkperhaps the configuration was finish i dont know06:09
Nirvanaknoppix: is there a grub.conf? post it on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com06:09
djibfrank23: is ther eanother command ?06:09
knoppixNirvana, ok i will copy back the backup i did before erasing06:09
RodniI dont have to it gives me the default name anyway06:09
Rodnioh before06:09
Rodnihmm no I didint06:09
dermitriuscoolink, if the original xorg.conf is of no use (ie not working), perhaps removing will help06:09
knoppixNirvana, no sorry, no grub.conf under /boot/grub06:09
frank23djib: w  works for  me (ssh from localhost) and has worked on every other unix system i've been on06:09
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Rodninow it gave me another error saying Read only file06:10
djibfrank23: a friend is logged in ssh on my machine, I don't see him06:10
RodniPingjockey the trick with / in front of etc worked but why read only when Im root?06:10
dermitriuscoollink as sudo or root rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then do the reconfigure06:10
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frank23Rodni: sudo nano  to use nano as root06:10
RodniIm already root06:10
PingjockeyI don't know...06:10
Pingjockeyhmm06:11
coollinkin fact my problem is the next: when i starting my computer linux seem to load properly, i see all the OK list, but after my screen turn black and nothing appens, no kde no console, if i pres ctrl alt f5 i can go into consol mode with alt 1 2 3 etc. so i was thinking is was a rezolution problem, but someone have other idea?06:11
Nirvanaknoppix: looks like you have to manually create it then06:11
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PingjockeyRodni did the file save?06:11
Rodninope06:12
Pingjockeydid you save it somewhere else?06:12
dermitriuscoolink, what graphics card do you have?06:12
_bin process table there is a icon of ghost on some process is it a bad thing ?06:12
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RodniError writing /etc/apt/sources/list: Read-only file system06:12
coollinkATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 with 128MB DDR video memory.06:12
Rodnino i havent tried that yet06:12
dermitriuscoolink, thats right now i recall :)06:12
coollinkthe xserver conf tool seam to have detec them properly, good name good irq etc....06:12
Pingjockeyok save it somewhere else then.. like /tmp/sources.list or something06:12
coollink:P06:13
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dermitriuscoolink, ok so the fgrlx didn't install right?06:13
coollinki dont know, i think not06:13
dahumpNewbie here, does anyone know why AMAROK won't play streaming audio? It shows the buffer, but no sound comes out. Sound is currently working.06:13
RodniOk, no matter what I do or where I try to save it it comes with the same Read only error06:13
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fyzixCan anyone tell me how to configure my fourth button on my new mouse?06:13
dermitriuscoolink, ok before removing the xorg file open it up in your favorite editor...06:13
coollinkok, but where is taht file?06:14
djibfrank23: my friend is using winscp, could that be the reason ?06:14
coollinkx11 xorg?06:14
dermitriuscoolink, /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:14
dermitriuscoolink, when its is open go down the file and find a driver setting06:14
coollinkit sayd no write permission06:15
dermitriuscoolink, what is that set to?06:15
coollinki can open06:15
RodniSo basically if I cant save it its no good06:15
PingjockeyRodni yeah thats right06:15
dermitriuscoolink, we will do changes in a min06:15
dahumpNewbie here, does anyone know why AMAROK won't play streaming audio? It shows the buffer, but no sound comes out. Sound is currently working.06:15
frank23djib: if thats a ssh client, it should be ok06:15
Rodniis nano the same as vi?06:15
knoppixNirvana, thx for your help. i will try a reboot. let's see where i end up :)06:15
Rodnimaybe should try different editor06:16
dermitriuscoolink, there both editors06:16
djibits some windows ssh client... It's a graphic tool for scp apparently06:16
dermitriuscoolink, sry i sent that to you and it wasn't applicable :)06:16
coollinkie of edito? i only not edit  ***06:16
dermitriuscoolink, ok so the file is open06:16
coollinknp06:16
frank23djib: just for scp?  does that do a real ssh login?06:17
Pingjockeyfeels his ulcer a flamming06:17
coollinki dont know how to poen it:P sry guy im new oon linux06:17
djibI don't know frank2306:17
djibI don't think so06:17
dermitriuscoolink, ok sry :)06:17
Pingjockeyok Rodni....06:17
Rodnihmm, so I guess as I feared my only option really is to reinstall from CD06:17
dermitriuscoolink, ok r u in a console on the laptop ?06:17
coollinkopen xorg.conf and sayd permission denied06:17
frank23Rodni: what is the problem?06:17
Pingjockeyit almost sounds like you permissions are messed up as well...06:17
dermitriuscoolink, it won't open read only?06:18
coollinki caht on my other computer, but im in front of th elaptop inconsol mode06:18
dermitriuscoolink, ok06:18
coollinki have to log into admin mode?06:18
dermitriuscoolink, that or we will use sudo. it upto you06:18
Rodniyeah could be. Altough this was something I had from the beginning when I installed kubuntu06:19
coollinkok yes, so y try sudo open xorg.conf?06:19
Rodnifrank23 its really a long story06:19
dermitriuscoolink, yep06:19
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frank23Rodni: ok... i'm not in the mood for long stories ;)06:19
Pingjockeyyou know what rodni, lets reinstall... lets go step by step though06:19
coollinki done that, but open xorg.conf seam to do nothing06:19
RodniI broke Kubuntu, cant get into GUI and only in recovery mode. I want kubuntu back so I can back up a single folder before removing it completely06:19
RodniI will install it again on my other hard disk tho06:20
Nirvanarodni: what about typing startx?06:20
dermitriuscoolink, did you put the full path, or are you in the path?06:20
djibthat really scares me not se see people logged in my computer... Anyone has an idea ?06:20
coollinkim in the path06:20
Rodniwhats startx?06:20
dermitriuscoolink, ok cool06:20
tecsi upgraded....should i keep my etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc or replace it with the update? what does it do anyway06:21
RodniThere is another option here Pingjockey if you are good with networks....since Im now connected you can just tell me how to browse trough my files using command line and doing a copy paste to a different PC06:21
dermitriuscoolink, ok in the current path (/etc/X11) type "ls" and see if there is an xorg.conf file06:21
RodniIf that works with Tar or whatever then I will be dead happy06:22
coollinkyes theyre is06:22
dermitriusand yet when you tried to open it didn't do anything06:22
Pingjockeywell you could tarball the folder... then upload the folder to another pc... do you have a ftp server on your network?06:22
coollinkjust to be sure, waht is the rigt command for do that?06:22
Pingjockeynvidia question for those running dapper.. does the glx pakage works with the new verison of xorg?06:23
dermitriuscoollink, you used vi correct?06:23
coollinkno06:23
coollinkwhat is vi?06:23
Rodniftp server. No06:23
dermitriuspingjockey, i'm ati, can't help you there06:23
dermitriuscoollink ok then try nano to open the file06:24
coollinki enter vi and now im in a vim - vi - improved06:25
dermitriuscoollink ok06:25
coollinki dont know how to left that06:25
RodniI did try to trasfer files before and it worked but I havent done it trough command line06:25
dermitriuscoollink to quit :q06:25
dermitriuscoollink then  type vi xorg.conf and that should work06:26
Pingjockeyafk06:26
coollinkok im in vi with the file xorg.conf06:27
dermitriuscoollink to navigate the file use the arrow keys06:27
coollinkyes, and now im oing dow for the driver?06:27
dermitriuscoollink yep06:27
dermitriuscoollink what value is set for driver?06:28
coollinksection device: identifier "ati tech......   radeon mobility x700 (rv410)"06:28
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digihey guys!06:28
Rodniaaah, Dir is used in linux too. I just found my directory I need to put safe.06:28
dermitriuscoollink thats the right section06:28
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coollinkthe driver is "ati"06:29
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Rodnican I some how copy and paste it on a network pc?06:29
dermitriuscoollink ok06:29
dermitriuscoollink one sec06:29
coollinkBusID "pci:1:0:0"06:29
dermitriuscoollink that means agp :)06:30
RodniI guess not. Copy is not a command06:30
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coollinkok06:30
digiGuys - where can I get Kautomatix?06:30
dermitriuscoollink ok exit file for now, we need to reaproach the situation06:32
Nomad411!kautomatix06:32
ubotuNomad411: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:32
coollinkok, for exit vi, what i have t do?06:32
dermitriuscoollink :q06:32
RodniIm gonna go and eat something then will continue this06:33
Rodniits shame we cant pm either06:33
dermitriuscoollink so to reiterate, after system start up kdm goes to load and you get no picture right ?06:33
coollinkyes06:34
coollinkno picutre black screen, th emonitor seem to go off06:34
dermitriuscoollink, heres a test, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop .....06:34
coollinkim not even surre kdm load, but im sure all the OK list goes06:35
dermitriuscoollink, then type startkde06:35
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dermitriuscoollink if it was a desktop install, then kdm started couldn't get a screen, and stays loaded06:35
coollinkok the stop make a lsit of ok, and now i cannot enter anything, no command line visible06:36
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_mackeHey! How do i make my NTFS drive readable for all users??06:36
dermitriuscoollink ok hit this key combo ctrl-alt-f106:36
dermitriuscoollink that gets you back to console06:36
coollinkok06:36
coollinkyes06:36
dermitriuscoollink ok back to test06:37
coollinkok, ive start kde06:37
dermitriuscoollink now type startkde06:37
dermitriuscoollink seems you were a step ahead of me on that one :)06:37
coollinkkdeinit aborting. $Display is not set06:37
coollink:P yes06:37
coollinkcanot conect to x server...06:38
coollinki have a series of message like that06:38
dermitriuscoollink ok thinking..06:38
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coollinkstartkde: Shutting down....06:38
NoTechhi what is the main difference between Kubuntu -Dapper and -Breezy?06:39
dermitriuscoollink what is the final message (for example "no screens found")06:39
coollinkat the top of the screen i can read  xsetroot: unable to open display06:39
_mackehow do i reload fstab??06:39
coollinkCa't contact kdeinit06:40
coollinki have many error, not jsut one at the end06:40
NoTechany?06:41
mnoir!breezy06:41
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:41
mnoir!dapper06:41
ubotuI guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.06:41
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thehilhow can I figure out where to put the WIN32 codecs for mplayer??06:41
NoTechthanx06:41
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NoTechubotu are u a bot?06:42
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NoTech06:42
dermitriuscoollink ok, copy /var/log/Xorg.x.log to your computer your on irc and send me them06:42
NoTech:))06:42
coollinkok, but how can i do that? no floppy on th elaptop, i dont know how to make it.... any idea?06:43
dermitriuscoollink ok, copy them to floppy disk/usbkey or whatever you prefer (copy command is cp)06:43
coollinki have a usb key, but how i done that with linux?06:43
dermitriuscoollink then put them on your irc machine and dcc send me them06:43
_davidNoTech: I think the biggest difference will be that dapper can be installed from a livecd while breeze need a special install cd06:44
dermitriuscoollink plug it into a usb port on the laptop06:44
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coollinkok, the key is plug, and alot of thing as been show on the screen,06:45
dermitriuscoollink hangon i'm trying to remeber how to mount a device read write06:45
coollinkhow can i acces dthe usb key?06:45
_davidhey, can someone explain me how config files work in kubunto, for instance if I edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually what will happen X gets updated?06:45
dermitriuscoollink first as root (or sudo) type mkdir /media/usbkey06:46
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coollinkok i done that, but nothing seem to be done...06:47
dermitriuscoollink thats where we are gonna mount the usb key06:47
coollinkok06:47
coollinkthat make a dir, ok i understand..06:47
dermitriuscoolink i'm just sorting out a line to add to /etc/fstab that will allow you to mount the usbkey at the dir we just made06:49
dermitriuscoolink /etc/fstab is a file that controls the mounting of cdroms hard drives and such06:50
_daviddermitrius: that's not needed I think06:50
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_daviddermitrius: afaik what needs to be done is    sudo mount /dev/usbdeviceiforgotthenameof /media/usbkey06:51
tecshow come my konqueror wont open it says malformed url and cant locate kioo file06:52
visik7tecs: with which url ?06:52
tecswith my home folder...06:53
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dermitriuscoollink slowdown :)06:54
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dermitriusdavid, he has no gui so no automount, and if you mount like that then its readonly :)06:55
dermitriuscoollink this line needs to be added to the file /etc/fstab "/dev/sda        /media/usbkey   vfat    rw      0       0"06:56
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coollinkhi, my computer lock up, stupid DVD rw06:57
coollinkim back06:57
dermitriuscoollink repeated due to disconnect this line needs to be added to the file /etc/fstab "/dev/sda        /media/usbkey   vfat    rw      0       0"06:57
coollinki hav eto add that ?06:58
dermitriuscoollink its best that is added as is, the spaces are tabs06:58
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dermitriuscoollink then you can type sudo mount /media/usbkey, should work is your usb key device is vfat and sda :)06:59
coollinkit is normal than in fstab theyre is nothing? no text06:59
dermitriuscoollink /etc/fstab should not be empty :)06:59
coollinkis empty... i open it with nano fstab06:59
_davidcoollink: you probably the wrong path, type nano /etc/fstab06:59
_davidnot nano fstab07:00
dermitriuscoollink he may already be in etc :)07:00
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dermitriushe may already be in etc :)07:00
_davidok :)07:00
coollinkok now im in the good pace07:00
coollinkthere is some text in it07:01
coollinksry07:01
dermitriuscoollink if /etc/fstab was empty his laptop would have a hardtime booting :)07:01
dermitriuscoollink np07:01
RodniIm back!07:01
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dermitriuscoollink then go to bottom of file with arrow keys07:01
dermitriuscoollink the press the end key to go to the end of the line07:02
RodniWho has enough experience to help me with reinstalling Kubuntu without losing my home folder?07:02
dermitriuscoollink then hit the "i" to begin editing (you are in read-write mode right)07:02
RodniI'm ready to follow instructions :)07:03
_daviddermitrius: he's using nano, not vi?07:03
coollinki have write th ecommand you told me, its seem to be ok07:03
coollinknano07:03
mnoirrodni: kubuntu REALLY LIKES to reformat yer disk - first step would be to backup home as you have been struggling all day to do....07:03
dermitriuscoollink ok cool either way as long as its there :p07:03
coollinki save and close that?07:04
Rodni:(07:04
dermitriuscoollink yep07:04
RodniCan't I just tell kubuntu to only install in the root folder?07:04
coollinkoups07:04
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coollinkeror to write fstab, permission denied07:04
coollinki dont have the write acces i think07:04
Rodniafter all the reason I made all these partitions was in case of failuer like that07:04
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mnoirok - so home really is a separate partition?07:05
dermitriuscoollink if as i hope is the case (ie that your usb ket is fat32 formated and is on the sytem as /dev/sda) then when you type mount /media/usbkey we should be ok :)07:05
Rodniyes, but logical because I ran out of primary07:05
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Rodnihope this dosent matter07:05
ejofee_how do i change settings in motif? what is its config file?07:06
coollinkbut th eproblem is  i cant save the fstab07:06
mnoirthat is ok - pls type df at a command prompt to display all mounted filesystems07:06
dermitriuscoollink ah ok then "sudo" edit it :)07:07
mnoirpaste the line that sez /home at the end07:07
RodniMy partitions are as follow: 1 primary 10.5GB NTFS, 2 primary 106.9MB ext3 (boot), 3 primary 10.4GB ext3 (root07:07
coollinkyes ok min07:07
mnoire.g. /dev/hda3             45815940   7199876  38616064  16% /home07:07
mnoir(this is mine)07:07
_daviddermitrius: I just tested but      sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbkey          sudo touch /media/usbkey/itworks        does work07:07
Snake__!pastebin07:08
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)07:08
Rodni5 logical 509.9MB ext3 (swap) and last 6 logical 38GB ext3 (home)07:08
mnoirsnake - for just 1 line??07:08
coollinkok, i save the fstab file, now i do mount /media/usbkey????07:08
Rodnimnoir Im currently in the installation screen07:08
Rodniwhere the partitions are07:08
Snake__mnoir: there were lots of people pasting >.< hehe07:08
mnoir:)07:09
Rodnino command line there07:09
mnoiroic07:09
dermitriusdavid, any emtpy dir will work like that because your are effectivly writing to "/"07:09
Rodnido you want me to do it different way? I dont know how it works exactly07:09
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mnoirthis is very scary - i am afraid i will help you lose all that you want to preserve07:09
Rodniheh :P07:10
dermitriusdavid, if you mount an device on it then it will write to the device07:10
coollinkok i think is done07:10
coollinkhow can i chek that?07:10
mnoirdid i hear you say that pm was a problem?07:10
_daviddermitrius: I did mount, the first command does that07:10
Rodniwho me?07:10
mnoiryes you07:10
RodniI think so07:10
mnoirwhat about a separate channel?07:11
dermitriuscoollink like this "sudo mount /media/usbkey"07:11
mnoirit is too noisy here07:11
Rodnioh yeah I could make one and just ask for help so they can join in07:11
dermitriusdavid, sry07:11
Rodnigood idea07:11
coollinki done that, but it sayd dev/sda already mounted or /media/usbkey busy07:11
dermitriusdavid, didn't notice07:11
mnoirinvite me when you are there07:11
coollinkwhen i ve plug my ysb key, i think he mount automaticly, no?07:12
bbeckHello, I was wondering, in the system settings -> User Account -> Password & User Account, what does "At the Password Prompt" do?  It's set to "Show one star for each letter", and I have no idea what that's for?  Is it for kdesu, that's the only place I can think of where it's showing one star per letter?07:12
dermitriuscoolink, do you have anyothe usb storage devices pluged in?07:12
_davidcoollink: I think you are in /media/usbkey, pleaso type cd .. first, type mount to check if it is mounted already07:12
coollinkstorage no, jsuta usb mouse07:12
mnoirbbeck - different ways of fooling folks who watch you type07:12
_daviddermitrius: np07:12
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dermitriuscoolink not sure, mine only automount in gui07:13
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coollinkbeacuse when i have put the key,  i recevei a message, assuming drive cacheL write trhoug07:13
RodniIf anyone can possibly help me out reinstall my Kubuntu without losing my /home folder (seperate partition) please join the channel #rodni.help07:13
_davidcoollink: If it would automount it would automount on that directory so that can not be it, you are probably in the /media/usbkey directory, that's why it says its busy07:13
RodniI would really appreciate any help07:14
coollinkok yes07:14
coollinkthat trug im in that dir07:14
_davidcoollink: I mean would not automaount.. :)07:14
bbeckmnoir: Ah yes I know, but where is it setting one star per letter?07:14
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rysiekhi there07:14
dermitriuscoollink an idea, under media what dirs are there, what data, if any is on the key, and if so does it match the data inside of any the dirs in /media?07:14
rysiekanyone can give me a hint what app should I use for TeX editing?07:14
dermitriuscoollink sry if that seems confusing07:15
coollinkok07:15
dermitriuscoollink i took a long while to write because it nearly confused me :)07:15
coollinkunder media, i have sdb1, there i have my storage07:15
rysiekI need to create a TeX document, and can't seem to find any reasonable editor07:15
coollinkunder usbkey, nothing07:15
_davidrysiek: do you mean an editor to type the TeX text, or an editor that generates it?07:15
dumkopfrysiek: teTeX?07:15
coollinkso the usb ey is alreay mount07:15
coollinki see my stuff07:16
dermitriuscoollink ok fair enough07:16
rysiek_david: editor to type - well, Kate seems to do it OK, I need something that would show me, what the forula looks like :)07:16
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rysiekdumkopf: looking into it ;)07:16
coollinkso how forgot waht are we doing that:P07:16
coollinkcopy a log file?07:16
_davidrysiek: there is a good editor for kde to do that, I will try to remember the name :)07:16
rysiekkformula? :] 07:16
dumkopfKile07:17
_davidrysiek: it's called kile07:17
_davidhehe too late :D07:17
rysiekok, thx :)07:17
bbeckrysiek: I'm not that familiar with Tex, but I think Lyx might be what you're looking for.07:17
_davidyeah, but lyx is to generate the latex07:17
dermitriuscoollink ok (sudo) cp /var/log/xorg.*.log to the usbkey (not certain that will copy them all if there is more than 1)07:17
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dermitriuscoolling for the runabout process of mounting the usbkey, if was just incase it wasn't automounted :)07:18
dermitriuscoollink*07:18
coollinkok :p07:19
dermitriuscoollink did they copy?07:19
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coollinkthey is any way to unplug the usb key? orjsute unplug it07:19
coollinkyes they copy07:20
_davidcoollink: first umount07:20
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_davidcoollink: sudo umount /media/sda107:20
dreamwavehello.  i've got an airlink mimo xr wifi card (rt2600 chip).  does anyone know if kubuntu supports this?07:20
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Snake__!ndiswrapper07:21
ubotuI guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper07:21
_mackehey! does anyone know the adress for freequest? i tried irc.freequest.net but no luck.07:21
dermitriuscoollink or come out of dir if you are in a dir on the usbkey then unplug is another way to doit and it avoids umount issues such as device is in use :)07:21
dreamwavethanks Snake__07:22
coollinkok, now i have the log on this coputer, how i send it to you?07:22
Snake__dreamwave: I'm not sure if it will work, wifi on linux is extremely hit and miss07:22
_mackehow do i unpack rar files??07:22
Snake__!rar07:22
ubotumethinks rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression07:22
_davidbut does someone know what happens if I edit a config file (say /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and than I upgrade x, will it overwrite the config file?07:22
Snake___macke: thats to you07:22
_mackeSnake_:Thanks!07:23
dreamwaveSnake__: don't i know it.  i've got madwifi running an atheros mini-pci card.  it took a lot of tweaking to get it right.  i've never done the ndiswrapper thing.  but there is always a first time...07:23
dermitriuscoollink ok with key in irc machine, right click on my name in the user list, then left click send file (should work for most irc clients)07:24
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dermitriuscoollink how many logs were there?07:24
Snake__dreamwave: IMHO ndiswrapper is great, but I would use whatever works with the card, for me it was ndiswrapper, thats why that was my first answer :)07:24
coollink2 log, but one was.old,07:24
coollinkive send th elog to you, but did you accept?07:24
dermitriuscoollink ok07:25
_davidcoollink: or poste the newest one on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com  so I can take a look too :)07:25
_mackeSnake_: Ark says that unrar isnt installed, but i downloaded it five minutes ago...07:25
dermitriuscoollink prolly a better idea :)07:25
Snake___macke: what do you mean?07:25
dermitriuscoollink use that method that david mentioned07:25
coollinkok i have done that07:26
_davidcoollink: can you poste the url to your message here?07:26
Snake___macke: You instelled unrar-nonfree?07:26
dermitriuscoollink ok i'm taking a look07:26
coollinkhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/56300407:26
_davidcoollink: thanks07:26
_mackeSnake_:yes07:26
coollinkthx to you guys07:26
Snake__mazer: then did you do this step: "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar /usr/bin/rar"07:27
Snake__oops07:27
Snake___macke: that step was to you07:27
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Snake__hatake_kakashi: connection probs?07:28
bam_anyone know how to capture the output of a command?07:29
dermitriusdavid, no (EE) that i can see07:29
_mackeSNake_: yeah i get this: "/usr/bin/rar": the file does not exist07:29
Snake___macke: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm07:29
_davidcoollink: can you try typing xinit07:29
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_davidcoollink: I thinks it's a kdm problem and not a x problem07:29
Snake___macke: im not really sure :( sorry07:29
coollinki taped xinit, and now i have the blackscreen07:30
_daviddermitrius: no, no real errors, it fails at Synaptics DeviceOff called07:30
_mackeSnake_: ok Thanks anyway!07:30
_davidcoollink: you dont have a cross mouse pointer, just entirely black?07:31
dermitriusdavid, he has a laptop, satellite m70 sr60007:31
coollinkall black, th emonitore seem to be off, like rez problem07:31
coollinkand now, i cant go back to the consol, i seem stock in the black screen... alt f5, f2, etc doese work07:32
_davidcoollink: ok, type ctrl-alt-backspace to get back07:32
_davidcoollink: that kills x07:32
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coollinknide :D07:32
coollinkthat work07:32
dermitriuscoollink brb07:33
_davidcoollink: ok, a minute please, I will try to find the problem07:33
coollinkthx07:33
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dermitriuscoollink back07:33
_mackehey! does anyone know the adress for freequest? i tried irc.freequest.net but no luck.07:33
_macke!freequest07:35
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _macke07:35
_mackelol07:35
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Snake__malte: try this07:36
Snake__eleet.sc.us.freequest.net07:36
_mackeSnake_:Thanks07:36
Snake___macke: You will notice that freequest runs on port 7000, not 6667 (IRC standard) so you can connect to irc.freequest.net, but you need to tell your client to connent to port 700007:37
_mackeSnake_: oh ok Thanks!07:37
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coollinkit seem to be an hard one:P07:38
Snake__coollink: huh?07:39
coollinkmy problem,07:39
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_davidcoollink: I googled a bit, could you take a look at line 13 of  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30xorg-common_xresources07:39
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_davidcoollink: sudo nano /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30xorg-common_xresources07:39
_davidcoollink: than on line 13 run_parts should be run-parts07:40
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hara__hello07:40
dermitrius_david, i let you have a shot, cigerrete brack :), i'll keep watch. gl07:41
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_daviddermitrius: ok cya07:41
hara__does anyone know how to get wine-apps to get machine real ip instead of 127.0.0.1?07:41
coollinkhave a good smoke:P07:42
coollinkyes th eline is _part, i chagne for -part?07:42
_davidcoollink: yep07:42
dermitriuscoollink aye i'll fill my lungs with tar good and proper :)07:42
coollinkafter? i launch xinit?07:42
_davidcoollink: yes07:42
coollinki have a black screen again.....07:43
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_davidcoollink: mm not cool :), could you try ctrl-alt-backspace and than sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart07:43
_davidcoollink: that will restart the login deamon07:44
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coollinkok, i done that, and i have a blackscreen again07:45
_davidcoollink: mm, than that wasn't the problem, too bad :)07:46
coollinkyes:P07:46
dermitrius_david this is a good one ain't it07:46
coollinknow i cannot do alt FX, or ctrl alt backspace07:47
coollinki reboot?07:47
_davidcoollink: no, you should be able to do ctrl-alt-f107:47
_davidcoollink: to leave x you need ctrl-alt-f1 instead of just alt-f107:48
coollinkno, i doset work07:48
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coollinkmy laptop screen seem off07:48
coollinklike i have balckscreen07:48
_davidcoollink: mm, than it really locked up :) to savely reboot type ctrl-alt-del :)07:48
coollinklol, that doest work ...07:49
_davidcoollink: ok that it's really really really locked up, than you should reboot indeed..07:49
coollinki pressed the power up button, and linux turn me back into the console but he said restard Now,07:50
coollinkthe system wasten lock up07:50
coollinknow kubuntu is loading07:50
_davidcoollink: owh, ok thats good..07:50
_davidcoollink: I think the problem is with your touchpad07:51
coollinktouch pad?07:51
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dumkopfanyone use ipw2200 drivers for centrino wireless?07:52
coollinki have a new probleme now,07:52
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coollinki tink is becaus emy usb lkey is not in,07:52
coollinkmoutn file system failed07:52
_daviddermitrius: sorry, missed your message, yeah this one really is hard to solve07:52
dumkopfunless it failed to mount root or proc or something important, boot should continue regardless of a failed mount07:53
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dermitriuscoollink that is the additional line in fstab, not required now :)07:53
dermitriuscoollink sry about that :p07:53
coollinkyes, that was i thinking07:53
mnoiranyone know why kubuntu recovery mode would mount the root fs readonly??07:53
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dumkopfmnoir, it's a failsafe measure afaik07:54
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mnoirmine doesnt - it makes it VERY hard to repair a system...07:54
Rodniso this happenes under kubuntu only?07:54
Rodnithat dosent make sense. Why call it recovery then?07:55
mnoirthis is happening on rodni's sys and it is getting in the way...07:55
_davidmnoir: if you need to repait you best use a livecd07:55
RodniI have Kubuntu live07:55
coollinki think i should Reinstall my linux distrib,07:56
mnoirok - we can do that - whatta pita07:56
dumkopfno.  it's a general failsafe to keep you from corrupting the filesystem accidentally.07:56
coollinki cant even more go to the console, ctral alt backspace dosent work07:56
mnoirbach to the help07:56
dumkopfyou should be able to remount it rw, shouldn't you?07:56
coollinkctral alt fx not work to07:56
coollinki still on a black screen07:56
mnoirrodni - i'm back in yer channel07:57
Rodnioh yeah :P07:57
dermitriuscoollink so after boot no kde login screen and not able to switch console, don't soung good07:58
dumkopfcat /etc/mtab will tell you how it's mounted.  mount -w will mount the fs rw07:58
Snake__Man there are no good kopete styles07:58
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_davidcoollink: I don't know something else to try, I think the problem is something with X and your touchpad, sorry that we couldn't solve it07:58
coollinkits ok,07:59
mister_robotoWhat is the easiest way to upgrade breezy to dapper? can i just "s/breezy/dapper/g" in my sources.list?07:59
coollinkyes dermitrius, thats th eprobleme now07:59
_davidSnake__: it will have in the future :) http://matt.rogers.name/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi/KDE/kopete_0.12.html07:59
coollinkbut i will reinstal linux for check if it will work07:59
coollinkyouve don well to help me, thxc07:59
_davidcoollink: ok, I'm leaving now, hope you will get it running :) cya07:59
coollinkperhaps we talk about that later,08:00
coollinkyes thx agin, i have to leave too08:00
dumkopfmister_roboto: i ghosted my drive and performed a clean install.  i've yet to do a dist-upgrade across distribution versions without breaking at least a dozen things08:00
coollinkhave a nic eday! guys08:00
dermitriuscoollink i guess there are three choices, reinstall breezy, switch to dapper and see if it is fixed there or try the linux laptop help site08:00
dermitriuscoollink bb08:00
coollinkthank, bybye08:01
DevGetIs there any howto for get Xgl work with kubuntu dapper?08:01
dermitriuscoollink not sure what the url for that site though, sry08:01
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dermitriuscoollink sry we couldn't sort it08:01
KarnaK!chroot08:01
ubotuI heard chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457508:01
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coollinkit ok, i have to go now, thx again  ciya08:02
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KarnaKSnake_: i had the rar file in /usr/bin but its owner is root how do i change that?08:03
dermitrius_david its a shame hey, that was a hard one, i wish him goodluck in getting it sorted08:03
Snake__KarnaK: Im not really sure...but you could do "chmod 777" to give you, and everyone else full access08:04
dermitriusopps he is gone :)08:04
dermitriusbye all08:04
Snake__cya dermitrius08:04
KarnaKSnake_: ok is it "chmod 777 rar" then??08:04
Snake__KarnaK: sudo chmod 777 <file here>08:04
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Donvinzkhi, I use kubuntu, but I ca not have double click working in gtk apps08:05
KarnaKSnake_: hehe now i get :/usr/bin/rar": the file exists08:05
Snake__wtf?08:05
Snake__rofl08:05
Snake__man I have no idea....I dunno much about rars and whatnot08:06
KarnaKSnake_: ok ill keep trying. Thanks anyway08:06
Snake__Yep08:06
FeldonI added the src "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to adept and did a full upgrade.  After restarting I added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main" and did another full upgrade.  After restarting, though, I still have 3 packages listed as upgradeable, but when I hit Full Upgrade none of them are upgraded.  Did I do something wrong?08:07
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sebastianguys08:09
sebastianwhy is cd burning not working in ubuntu?08:09
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grim76sebastian: are you getting some kind of error when you go to burn a disc you need to be more specific if possible.08:10
sebastian3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.08:12
sebastian3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.08:12
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grim76Did you try running k3b as root to see if it give you the same error?08:12
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sebastianyea, im running  it as root08:14
grim76Do you happen to be burning the disc on the fly?08:15
sebastianyes08:16
grim76try it without burning on the fly and see if it works.08:16
sebastianok08:17
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grim76A quick google shows that there are several people across distros that are having the same problem you are and it has been bug reported back to K3b as near as I can tell.08:18
Feldonis there a reason why after adding the kde351 source, doing a 'fetch updates' (which results in 68 upgradeable packages), doing a full upgrade and then commit changes, that I would still have 3 upgradeable pacakges that Full Upgrade/Commit Changes won't install?08:19
sebastianwell..im having a similar problem in gnomebaker/serpentine08:19
sebastiani was able to burn cd's in ubuntu before08:20
grim76hmmm not sure then.  Let me dig some more.08:20
sebastiani have no clue08:20
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shawn_homeDo we have a desktop recording tool for KDE?08:20
shawn_homexvidcap/gvidcap aren't in Dapper yet (dependency wait)08:20
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sebastiansome more info:08:22
sebastian/usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler08:22
sebastian/usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().08:22
sebastian/usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.08:22
sebastianError: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?08:22
grim76Please use pastebin for posting multiple lines08:23
sebastiansame thing happens with on-the-fly disabled08:23
sebastiank, sorry08:23
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Tm_TNirvana: krhm08:29
Nirvana?08:29
Tm_Tdon't spam to channel08:30
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Nirvanaahh..lol08:30
_tijnwtf?08:31
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_tijnah tumbleweed :D08:32
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sorush20when Is kmplayer comming on ?08:32
_tijncool, will there be a kmplayer?08:33
Nirvanakmplayer: you mean the pkg?08:34
Nirvanathere used to be one on the download page08:34
sebastiank, i'm desperate, gonna try graveman08:34
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_tijnmmh any way to speed up kubuntu?08:35
_tijngot some wierd stuff going on08:35
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PaloDeQuesoHow's flight 4 of dapper, and does xgl work?08:36
_tijniam downloading files on my 11mbit wireless from my internal network, (100mbit) and i only get 667 kb/s08:36
_tijnwhen i do a mount -a (with nfs shares in fstab) it takes 10 min!08:37
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sorush20how do you guys fix this checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021) and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!08:38
sebastiangraveman is not downloading, can someone gimme a direct link?08:39
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sorush20anyone here want a gmail account?08:39
Ploujhumm08:40
PaloDeQuesoHow's flight 4 of dapper, and does xgl work?08:40
sebastiangraveman is not downloading, can someone gimme a direct link?08:40
PloujLILO refuses to install into the ubuntu partition, and I can't install it into MBR for personal reasons08:40
PaloDeQuesowith your qt error, install apt-file with apt-get, then do apt-file update, and then search for the specific library, like libqt3* with apt-file search (file)08:41
PaloDeQueso:)08:41
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DonvinzkWhen I try to delete a directory on a usb hard driev, I get an error saying that the trash protocol is unbable to create directories08:44
dumkopfput "user" as an option in fstab, for mounting it.08:45
Donvinzkdumkopf: it is not a problem of rights, I can add, delete files, but not delete a directory08:45
DonvinzkI guess kde is trying to create a .trash directory08:46
Donvinzkbut I do not want any .trash on a usb key, is it possible to setup this ?08:46
neoncodeHey is it possible to connect to an Xserver on a remote machene via a LAN that does not have a monitor/keyboard/mouse and use the computer your connecting though to controll the one your conected to..?08:46
dumkopfshift-delete will let you delete files and not have them hit the trashcan08:46
neoncodeOh wait, I think google turned up something...08:47
dumkopfneoncode: you're interested in vncserver08:47
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angasule41C :( thank the lords of kobol for liquid cooling!08:48
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dumkopfangasule: the next step is actively cooling the radiator with dry ice ;)08:51
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angasuleactually, I'm drinking cold water08:51
Donvinzkdumkopf: is the problem I am facing something uusual, or did I missed something ?08:51
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dumkopfbah!  liquid cooling is a misleading term when you're in a linux channel08:52
angasulehahaha I love misleading people :P08:52
dumkopfDonvinzk: the only problem you're having is that K can't create a directory for .trash?08:52
Donvinzkyes08:53
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dumkopfwell, given that it's a USB stick, and you don't want trash on it anywat, I'd just shift-delete instead of regular delete.  it may be a problem that the specific process that K is using to create the directory doesn't have the rights to do so08:54
dumkopfwhat's your mtab got to say about it?08:54
_macke!rar08:54
ubotufrom memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression08:54
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_mackeI cant get unrar to work in ark, any tips??08:58
dumkopfDonvinzk: you should see something in your mtab to the tune of "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 vfat rw,user 0 0"08:58
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Donvinzkdumkopf: /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 009:01
Donvinzkand, /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 009:01
_mackei get this: ln: "/usr/bin/rar": the file exists" when i run "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar /usr/bin/rar"09:02
dumkopfDonvinzk: has it got "user" as an option in your fstab?09:02
Donvinzkit has nothing in my fstab since it is automoyunted09:03
dumkopfaah.  hm.09:03
DonvinzkI just have my hda and hdc in the fstab09:03
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dumkopfi was having a very similar problem with my ipod until I gave up and wrote udev rules to handle it09:03
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Donvinzkdumkopf: I have an ipod too ;-)09:04
dumkopfDonvinzk: if you try to create directory on your usb keydrive yourself, do you get an error?09:05
Donvinzkbut I will manage it with gtkpod09:05
Donvinzkno09:05
dumkopfthat's weird.  even if it's named .trash?09:05
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Donvinzkjust when I try to trash what I created09:05
Donvinzkno error creating .trash09:05
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Voodoo_Vibeanyone who has the time to help me??09:06
Donvinzkdumkopf: when I will have more time I will create udev rules too, it is far more efficient, and it seems simple09:07
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Donvinzkand in my gtk apps, if I double click, nothing happen, for example if I want to highlight text, do you have any idea on this ?09:08
DonvinzkI come back in a minute09:09
MrDezvoodoo: whats up?09:09
MrDezis Konversation based on xchat?09:10
Voodoo_VibeMrDez: im trying to install rar support, but cant get it to work09:10
MrDezah09:10
MrDezdid u use the automatix script to install it?09:11
Voodoo_Vibeive downloaded unrar-free and run the command i get when typing !rar but no luck09:11
Voodoo_Vibeautomatix??09:11
MrDezhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&highlight=automatix09:11
MrDezinstalled just about everything u'll need on ubuntu09:11
MrDezmake sure u dont have synaptic open when u run it09:12
MrDezit will give you a full menu of things to install09:12
Voodoo_VibeMrDez: ok, Thanks, will try it!09:12
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MrDeznice part it it configures everything 'right' for you09:12
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ccc_!automatix09:15
ubotuautomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.09:15
Voodoo_VibeMrDez: cant do this one; wget http://beerorkid.com/automatix/automatix_5.4-3_i386.deb    I get connection denied09:15
ccc_don't use automatix...09:15
MrDezuse sudo09:15
MrDezwhy not ccc09:15
ccc_MrDez: read ubotu 5 lines up.09:16
Voodoo_VibeMrDez: doesnt help with sudoo09:16
Voodoo_Vibesudo*09:16
MrDezoh09:16
MrDezhmm09:16
MrDezccc: havent had a single problem yet, deployed it on 14 machines so far09:18
Rodni:)09:19
MrDezand im comfortable with cli and editing conf files09:19
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ccc_MrDez: well, it has messed up numerous systems. it's a bad hack.09:20
ccc_!easyubuntu09:20
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu09:20
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ccc_i'd rather go with easyubuntu... or learn how to do things the "proper" way. it's not that hard :)09:20
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ccc_and definitely worth the effort.09:22
neoncodeHey if i built a DMZ, if a computer is connected to the outer part of it, can it become part of the inner LAN safely?09:22
dumkopfright.  once you learn the tricks, you can sit in this channel and help people who have the exact same problem as you :)09:22
Nomad411!java09:22
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:22
Voodoo_Vibe!sfv09:23
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Voodoo_Vibe09:23
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neoncodeNo help?09:24
mnoiri have been working with Rodni to fix his os install but have run into a time problem and a problem I cannot explain09:24
Voodoo_Vibe!cfv09:24
ubotuVoodoo_Vibe: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:24
Voodoo_Vibe!cksfv09:24
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Voodoo_Vibe09:24
mister_robotoneoncode: depends on what you mean by "become part of the inner lan"   the idea is to only allow certain, well-defined paths into the inner lan09:24
mnoirin the kubuntu install, we are doing manual partition to preserve his /home09:25
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mnoirbut the install is not allowing a finish and rewrite of the partition table.09:25
unix_infidelhey guys, anyone know why fonts are so much larger, gvim, gaim, kicker, konqueror, etc when i use startx as opposed to kdm?09:25
mnoirsomeone want to try to help him figure out why?09:25
neoncodemister_roboto: well, as far as I know a DMZ has an untursed outer zone and a trusted inner one. My problem is that some of my computers connect wirelessly to my netgear router. witch is also my internect connetion. so some computers must be part of the untruseted zone. but I want some of those wireless computers to be part of the trusted zone. is it possible to set it up so that those computers are seen to be truseted and not com09:28
neoncode/firewall between the zones?09:28
mnoirRodni: so long for now....09:28
mister_robotoneoncode: look at this   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demilitarized_zone_(computing)09:29
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Voodoo_VibeIs there any program so i can unrar my files in the shell09:29
ccc_Voodoo_Vibe: i use unrar-nonfree09:29
Voodoo_Vibeccc_:yeah i cant get it working09:30
neoncodemister_roboto: i'm still confuzed... so is their a way?09:30
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ccc_Voodoo_Vibe: unrar-nonfree supports newer versions of rar than unrar-free iirc.09:30
Rodniwell guys, anyone wants to tell me why when I partition manually and click on finish to continue with installation, it reloads the same partition screen again.09:31
johnny06how can i install conky on debian sarge09:31
ccc_Voodoo_Vibe: unrar x file.rar09:31
RodniI thinks its unhappy with my selections09:31
Voodoo_Vibeccc_: Can i copy the unrar file into the dir with the rars and type something like " unrar myfile.rar" ???09:31
mister_robotoneoncode: not with the setup you describe wherein some of your wireless computers are trusted, some not, and the wireless router going right to the internet connection09:31
Voodoo_Vibeccc_: ok, Thanks09:32
johnny06i am trying apt-get install conky & it's not there09:32
ccc_Voodoo_Vibe: no, you don't need to do that. :)09:32
neoncodemister_roboto: Well actualy all wireless computers I have(all 2 of them) should be trusted... but with the wireless and the internet in the same box... nar...09:32
mister_robotoneoncode: if you can't understand taht wikipedia link, then i doubt you'll get it right09:32
Voodoo_Vibeccc_: i only get command not found09:33
mister_robotoneoncode: you need a firewall between the DMZ and your trusted lan exposing only some ports into your trusted lan09:33
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neoncodemister_roboto: No I can understand it. I was just wondering if that was possible..09:33
ccc_Voodoo_Vibe: then it's not installed... if you want unrar-nonfree, type: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree09:33
Voodoo_Vibeccc_: ive done that09:34
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mister_robotoneoncode: so you want to have one of the wireless computers be the DMZ?09:35
kazehello i have a problem with anjuta and gcc can you help me?09:36
koshhehe wireless and security09:36
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koshI guess that is like worrying about fire safety when you are in the middle of a forest fire ;)09:36
mister_robotokosh  :)09:36
neoncodeAhh nevermind. I was trying to find a use for some old computers I have. I'll just build a beowulf cluster..09:36
mister_robotoneoncode: you could use one of those old computers as a firewall  :)09:37
neoncodemister_roboto: to protect what?09:38
mister_robotoyour lan from your wireless router connections, for example09:39
neoncodewill anyone ever develop decent security for wireless?09:40
mister_robotoneoncode: maybe :)09:40
unix_infidelanyone with any idea bout my problem here, after i started using startx instead of kdm to log into fluxbox i've gotten somethings to work yet all my fonts in various other apps in fluxbox arent anti-alias....09:41
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RodniCan you tell me one thing. Is there a CD writing application on the Kubuntu Live CD?09:44
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koshk3b probably09:45
Rodnithat would be great for the job I need09:46
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RodniOk the good news is there is k3b in the live CD version. However, how do I access my /home folder using a live cd?10:02
RodniIs that possible somehow?10:02
ccc_Rodni: a hard drive? yes, if it's mounted. it's hopefully automounted at boot up.10:04
brodelI'd say it is.. but I don't know how to tell you10:04
Rodniit is mounted I can see it but how to access trough konqueror?10:04
ccc_i guess kubuntu mounts it in /mnt10:05
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FlakJacketyou can also see stuff in /media can't you?10:06
FlakJacketsrry if that's old but i just got back10:07
Rodniaaaah fuck yeah!10:08
Rodni3 hours of kubuntu and I finally done it10:08
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howcomesAnyone running Fluxbox ?10:09
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unix_infidelhey, ok, i've got all my X and font issues taken care of on my own with some startx manip, and some help from the guys in #kde10:09
howcomesi've decided to give it a go10:09
unix_infidelhowever, now i have a problem with how cpufreq just randomly changes governors when i plug in my AC adapter and when i close the lid and such.10:10
unix_infideldid ubuntu guys just randomly make acpi rules for this stuff on laptops10:10
unix_infidelhowcomes: i'm running fluxbox, what's up?10:10
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Mindworkhi from Kubuntu on an iBook10:12
howcomesinfidel, was just wondering10:14
NirvanaHow do you set up a network bridge in Win2000 (or ubuntu, whichever)10:15
_evil_h_i need help! installing java is driving me up the wall. i have followed every HOWTO i can find and i get the same error with every one when i try to install (says that it can't find the package). all repos are active so whats the deal?10:15
Nirvanais it called connection sharing?10:16
Nirvana_evil_h_: isn't java in the repos?10:16
_evil_h_i thought so but it dont work i guess. ive installed them but java dont work10:17
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NirvanaI have sun-j2re1.5 -> is that  what you'd like?10:18
_evil_h_nirvana: yeah10:18
Nirvanaand you don't have it?10:19
Nirvanaone sec...10:19
_evil_h_i downloaded the .bin file but whenever i try to install through Konsole get the same error10:19
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Nirvana_evil_h_: I'll paste my sources.list in pastebin. Backup yours (sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup) and overwrite it with mine: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/56330510:22
_evil_h_nirvana: thanks ill give that a try10:23
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howcomeshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13312810:28
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snoozixdoes one use "karamba"? if so, what are those .theme files? i found a .skz - is this what i want?10:37
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unix_infidelhey guys, how does kubuntu manage cpu scaling with pM chips10:45
_evil_h_i dunno10:45
unix_infidelfor some reason it always changes governors on me whenever i'm on or off ac adapter, close lid and such.10:45
_evil_h_i just turned ACPI off10:46
unix_infideli'm trying to use manual cpufreq10:46
unix_infidel_evil_h_: has nothing to do with acpi.10:46
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unix_infidelanyone else who knows what they're talking about :P10:46
_evil_h_sorry. too much coffee and not enough sleep makes raymond a dumb boy10:46
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_evil_h_any recommendations on what program in the repos to use for a vnc server?10:56
snoozixthere are many :)10:57
snoozixso10:58
snoozixi used tightvnc10:58
snoozixbut it's really years ago.10:58
_evil_h_hmm10:58
snoozix4 years or so.10:58
_evil_h_guess ill just install one at a time and test it see which one i like better10:58
snoozixwhy not :)10:58
snoozixfreedom of choice.10:58
_evil_h_:)10:59
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snoozixuhm10:59
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snoozixi wanted to ask something, but now i forgot what.10:59
snoozixah right, i got kde with twinview and when i got the window on the monitor without panels i can not move the window to the very upper/lower border because kde thinks there is a panel which shouldn't be covered.11:00
snoozixbut it's insane because the panel is on the other desktop.11:00
CrowbarHas anyone been having issues with konqueror freezing for several seconds each time you select a text box to type in? including the location bar?11:00
snoozixan alternative would be to put same-heighted panels on both monitors, but i think that would be a mad workaround.11:01
snoozixCrowbar: me not *shrug*11:01
CrowbarSucks for me then.  It's starting to drive me insane and i might have to reinstall to fix it.11:01
_evil_h_Crowbar: on occasion but i think its just cause my laptop aint the greatest11:01
snoozixCrowbar: sounds bad.11:01
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snoozixwho's using an mp3 player (usb) with (k)ubuntu? i need help :)11:02
Crowbar_evil_h_: This just started happening recently.  I have no idea what could be causing.  Didn't update anything or change any settings.  It is definitely freezing up every time I put the cursor in one.11:03
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tuxedupwhat type snoozix, one thats recognised as a external storage or needing some particular software to access it?11:03
snoozixtuxedup: just quite a normal usb mass storage player with usb 2.0. it works and i can transfer songs to it. that's not the problem.11:04
snoozixtuxedup: i'll paste the fstab entry and complete my question, mom.11:04
snoozix/dev/sdb1       /mnt/mp3player  vfat   user,uid=1000,gid=1000,sync11:04
snoozixthis is how i got it.11:04
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snoozixbut it's not really synced and sometimes songs are incomplete and i don't know why.11:05
snoozixand i only can copy stuff via mc or console, konqueror won't really work.11:05
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snoozixand i want such a beautiful device icon for it on my desktop to mount/umount it!11:05
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howcomes4) logout and login using failsafe xterm session11:06
howcomeswhat does that mean?11:06
tuxedupjust create a link to it on the desktop then right clck the link and chnage the icon thats how i have mine11:06
howcomesi understand what logout/in is, but what is a failsafe xterm session11:06
snoozixhowcomes: an xterm11:07
snoozixhowcomes: instead of gnome/kde/whatever.11:07
howcomeshmm11:07
snoozixtuxedup: i would like something rightclickable where i can select "mount"11:07
Crowbarhowcomes: Nothing is loaded except an xterm window.  No window manager or support programs.  It's for recovering from a misconfiguration.  or running a game sometimes if you want all the resources you can get.11:08
tuxedupit does for me11:08
howcomeshow do i go about logging in using this method11:08
tuxedupif you double clikc the link it moutns it for me11:08
tuxedupand right clikc has moputn and unmount s well11:08
howcomesi dont remember seeing it in my GRUB list, but it might be there just have looked hard enough11:08
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tuxedupwill gaim 2.0 have video and voice does anyone know?11:12
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jc-dentonhi all11:15
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_evil_h_hola11:15
jc-dentonhow do i get kde 3.5.1 in breezy11:15
bimberi!kde3.5.111:16
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".11:16
bimberijc-denton: hi, ^^^^ is for you :)11:16
jc-dentonthx :)11:16
bimberinp :)11:16
jc-dentoni was on the kubuntu site, but could not find it11:16
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jc-dentonah11:17
jc-dentoni had deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main in /etc/apt/sources.list11:17
jarlath_There are still a few dependency problems with kde3.5.1 arent there? I dont think I could install kmail when I upgraded to 3.5.111:17
jc-dentonnote the missing 1 after 3511:17
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coollinkhi, can someone tell me if i can install linux on an other partition than windows, and keep my windows partition working, like on boot i can choose between windwos or linux11:20
jarlath_coollink, yes you can.11:21
gstevensHi, I'm trying to get my TV card working. When I run XAWTV, it says: "can't open /dev/video0: No such device"11:21
gstevenswhat can I do?11:21
jarlath_coollink: I havent done it myself with kubuntu because I dont use windows, but I know its possible.11:22
coollinkok nice, i have already a windows partition, and i have a free 40 gb partition for linux and is swap, with the latest kubuntu dvd bootable, how can i do this?11:22
gstevensMy tv card is Internext CX2341611:22
_evil_h_!dualboot11:22
bimbericoollink: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo11:22
uboturumour has it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo11:22
bimberi_evil_h_: :)11:22
_evil_h_coollink: ^^^11:22
coollinkoh, thx guys11:22
coollinki will check that11:22
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_evil_h_coollink: it works too i have two computers with Kubuntu and Windows dual booted11:23
_evil_h_!RealVNC11:24
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _evil_h_11:24
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jc-dentoni saw some kind of preview sidebar in konqueror 3.5.111:29
jc-dentonhow can i get that?11:29
jc-dentoni mean where do i need to click11:29
coollinkwhen i boot on the kubuntu DVD i have 2 option, press enter and go on live DVD or doing install  enter, what is the corect way for instal kubuntu for the dual boot?11:29
jarlath_jc-denton: F9?11:30
jc-dentonyes but i only see the sidebars that i had when using 3.5.011:30
jarlath_oh, okay. I dont know then.11:31
_evil_h_coollink: install. going to LiveCD is not going to install its just going to run Kubuntu off the DVD11:31
coollinkok, and if i already on live dvd, can i jsut restart and doing the install without affected my windows partition?11:31
jarlath_coollink: you need to be careful that you dont delete your windows partition when installing.11:32
coollinkyes11:32
_evil_h_yeah i highly recommend making sure everything on your windows partition is backed up just in case11:33
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coollinkok thx11:34
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jc-dentonlol11:38
_evil_h_i dont use bluetooth so is it safe to remove it from my system or does something non- bluetooth related use it?11:38
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jc-dentoni have to install metabar of course11:38
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jarlath_jc-denton: what is metabar?11:44
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jc-dentona bar with preview and stuff for konqueror11:45
jc-dentonapt-get install metabar11:45
jarlath_cool, ill try it :) thanks.11:45
jc-dentonif ur interested11:45
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