[12:04] <Snake__> lunitik: gotcha
[12:06] <_tijn> ls -la
[12:06] <_tijn> ow fuck :S
[12:07] <boha> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8443
[12:07] <boha> i get this on my screen when i boot live cd
[12:07] <boha> someone help me
[12:09] <sjmo2> can't get amarok working, something with permissions, works ok with sudo
[12:09] <_tijn> boha: i dont get the prob
[12:09] <_tijn> thats all, it doent boot further?
[12:09] <boha> yes
[12:10] <_tijn> wtf :S
[12:10] <_tijn> dunno, sry
[12:10] <boha> tnx anyway
[12:11] <_tijn> never used sata
[12:11] <_tijn> dont like it either :D
[12:13] <boha> i have 2 disks
[12:13] <boha> maybe is that a problem
[12:13] <boha> i could try to disconect one
[12:35] <angasule> hey, kubuntu is doing the stupid 'open a file with an app' thing again
[12:39] <Michhael> hello! I have a directory of documents (4GB) that I would like to burn on cd... what would I use to compress it, get 700MB pieces and then burn it on cd? thanks!
[12:43] <angasule> how do I disable/modify automount settings/
[12:44] <angasule> !automount
[12:44] <ubotu> angasule: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:45] <stefano> hey guys
[12:45] <lunitik> !listkeys mount
[12:45] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'mount' by key (6 shown): mountiso ;; mountntfs ;; easymount ;; mountwindows ;; diskmounter ;; mount.
[12:45] <stefano> i wonder why i dont have sound in Flash-Movies after updating Mozilla to 1.5.0.1 and kde to 3.5.1 :(
[12:45] <lunitik> !listkeys autofs
[12:45] <stefano> does any1 know about this problem?
[12:45] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'autofs' by key returned no results.
[12:45] <lunitik> !botslap
[12:45] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik
[12:45] <lunitik> man, it likes that site  :|
[12:46] <lunitik> lol @ its not even an actual site though
[12:50] <shao_lo> can anyone tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a new window when i insert a cd
[12:55] <shao_lo> can anyone tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a new window when i insert a cd
[12:56] <slow-motion> n8
[12:59] <patter> hi, hopefully I can ask a simple question without getting larted?
[01:00] <Marrs> :)
[01:01] <patter> I'd like to get the usplash splash screen working again after install & upgrade (installed kubuntu 5.10), I've got kubuntu booting with framebuffer & usplash is in init
[01:02] <Marrs> I just started using kubuntu today, so I'm not of much help..
[01:04] <murray> well, wine worked lovely for SQLyoug
[01:04] <murray> s/youg/yog/
[01:04] <murray> then I got distracted and tried GoogleEarth ... :(
[01:04] <shao_lo> can anyone tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a new window when i insert a cd
[01:05] <murray> shao_lo: no, but I'd be interested to know the answer as well
[01:05] <shao_lo> :)))0
[01:06] <shao_lo> ive been to kde, ubuntu, and now here...
[01:06] <rug> i smell bacon
[01:06] <rug> mmmm
[01:06] <rug> see ya
[01:07] <patter> think its either file associations in konqueror
[01:07] <patter> or some foo that does automounting
[01:10] <jshadow> try system settings, storage media
[01:11] <jshadow> @ shao_lo
[01:12] <shao_lo> so remove open new  window  from the action list for mmounted cd-rom?
[01:12] <jshadow> under the advanced tab theres enable medium application autostart after mount
[01:12] <jshadow> or that =)
[01:12] <shao_lo> thank you Thank You THANK YOU!!!
[01:13] <bob___> kubuntu hangs at "settings the system clock" - I think this is because the machine is not connected to the net...any fixes?
[01:13] <jshadow> your welcome
[01:13] <ryanakca> screen -r
[01:13] <bob___> (oh, this is using the livecd)
[01:13] <ryanakca> oops
[01:13] <ryanakca> my bad
[01:14] <bob___> I think kubuntu-livecd requires an NTP server.
[01:14] <Marrs> that will time out eventually I think
[01:14] <bob___> well, i waited five minuts
[01:15] <Marrs> hmm, that's long I agree
[01:16] <bob___> imho, it should time out after just a few seconds
[01:16] <Marrs> agreed, but I'm no kubuntu expert either ;)
[01:17] <bob___> ok..well thanks for at least chiming in ;)
[01:17] <Marrs> hehe ;)
[01:17] <shao_lo> does anyone here ever have problems with key repeeeeeats ?
[01:18] <bob___> my deian sarge system has become all messed up and I was hoping to use the kubuntu livecd to fix it.
[01:18] <shao_lo> kde wigs out after a while and i have to restart to make it go back to normal
[01:19] <Marrs> I just installed kubuntu a few hours ago
[01:19] <bob___> sounds like a hardware problem or an irq problem shao_lo
[01:19] <Hostile> has anyone gotten the fglrx drivers to work with X.Org 7.0?
[01:19] <bob___> what do you see in /proc/interrupts?
[01:19] <Marrs> or the initial delay before keys start repeating is too low
[01:21] <shao_lo> /proc/interrupts doesnt appear to be a dirctory
[01:23] <ryanakca> hmmm.... is it overly risky updating to kubuntu dapper?
[01:23] <bob___> shao_lo correct it's just a file. What is in it?
[01:24] <rich0rd> ryanakca: why would you do it?
[01:25] <shao_lo> about a dozen line
[01:25] <ryanakca> rich0rd: for more recent releases of programs... certain programs that I use alot and I dont feel like compiling from source, like gimp
[01:25] <ryanakca> rich0rd: Yes, I know, there will be bugs... that isnt a big concern for me
[01:26] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: what are you thinking of doing?
[01:26] <rich0rd> ryanakca: i did it twice, but there are some issues. i don't know if it is a good idea at all. I think it's ~2 month to the release.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> upgrading to dapper?  download a cd instead
[01:27] <Hobbsee> far safer than dist-upgrading
[01:30] <shao_lo> bob___: http://pastebin.com/561968
[01:30] <ryanakca> hobsee: when you install a dist with a cd, dont you loose all your configurations?
[01:31] <Phazeman> the crystalcursor package is broken :(
[01:31] <Phazeman> in dapper
[01:31] <cedrcv> Hello :)
[01:32] <angasule> how do I disable/modify automount settings?
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: broken how?
[01:33] <ryanakca> unless... of course, someone knows how to install GIMP 2.2.10 threw apt...
[01:34] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: backup your /home directory, and copy it over
[01:34] <GoDawgs> hey guys
[01:34] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: it won't install
[01:35] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: wanna see the error /
[01:35] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: pastebin the error?
[01:35] <Phazeman> ?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> yes
[01:35] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: it's a oneliner
[01:35] <Phazeman> sec
[01:35] <Phazeman> update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme: No such file or directory
[01:35] <GoDawgs> has anyone experienced installing Kubuntu only to have it shut down the laptop when it reached "Setting the Clock".... in the initial bot
[01:35] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: ^^^
[01:35] <GoDawgs> boot
[01:35] <ryanakca> I wouldnt neet to upgrade to dapper... if there was a way to upgrade GIMP from 2.2.8 to 2.2.10 threw apt
[01:35] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: you'd have to compile it
[01:36] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: did you get it ?
[01:36] <GoDawgs> because i can't get this darned thing to install for the life of me... i had Ubuntu Dapper working fine.... had to blast it because of a Winblows error... and now i'm back to square one
[01:37] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: hmmm...indeed that is a bug
[01:37] <Phazeman> :-)
[01:37] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: it's definately is... there is no such directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/ at all
[01:38] <Hobbsee> hmmm...because they changed xorg, i presume
[01:38] <Phazeman> yep.. i think...
[01:38] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: you are the maintainer ?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: nope
[01:38] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: btw.. it's dapper i'm speaking about
[01:38] <Hobbsee> yeah, i thought so
[01:39] <Phazeman> and the regular crystalcursors.tar.bz2 from kde-look.org won't install neither
[01:41] <Psi-Jack> ryanakca: Curious. What does 0.0.2 revision's really give you in gimp? :p
[01:41] <Hobbsee> !+anyone
[01:41] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:41] <GoDawgs> I already did.
[01:41] <GoDawgs> Thanks.
[01:44] <Hobbsee> oh, you're the same person from above...sorry about that
[01:44] <GoDawgs> that's ok. :)
[01:44] <Hobbsee> GoDawgs: did you try running the install agian, or checkign the md5sum?
[01:45] <GoDawgs> yeah both... five times
[01:45] <GoDawgs> :(
[01:45] <GoDawgs> I had dapper running just fine... but can't get kubuntu dapper going
[01:45] <GoDawgs> it's just plain odd
[01:45] <GoDawgs> everything seemed to install fine
[01:46] <GoDawgs> it got me to an command line when it was finished (because i have an ATI 200M card and I have to reconfigure the xserver)... did all that and then when it rebooted.... it completely shut off at the stage of "Setting up the clock"...
[01:47] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[01:48] <GoDawgs> oddball huH?
[02:08] <wC> what's the command to change the colors of the TTY terminals and is there a command to change the resolution of the TTYs from the default 640x480 / 800x600 to some other resolution such as 1280x1024?
[02:10] <judgen> it seems that i cant get accelerated x drivers to work
[02:10] <judgen> wonder why
[02:11] <Nomad411> wC: Look at setterm maybe
[02:11] <Nomad411> setterm --h
[02:11] <wC> will try
[02:11] <Psi-Jack>  Is there a kubuntu-announce type mailing-list?
[02:11] <Cyblivious> can someone give me a very good link for setting up bt878 tv tuners for tvtime?
[02:12] <wC> ttys look like shit on LCD monitors
[02:12] <Nomad411> me too!  :)
[02:12] <wC> setterm was the one, thanks a ton Nomad411
[02:12] <Nomad411> np
[02:13] <Cyblivious> can someone give me a very good link for setting up bt878 tv tuners for tvtime?
[02:13] <wC> dah maybe not, i dunno, stupid LCD
[02:15] <Psi-Jack> Great! Now bogofilter is suggesting ALL mailing-lists I sign up for are 100% spam.
[02:16] <judgen> Is there any site for kubuntu themes?
[02:16] <Psi-Jack> judgen: There's kde-look.org, for KDE themes.
[02:17] <Nomad411> wow, Bogo-filter efficiency: 100%  :P
[02:17] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[02:18] <judgen> Psi-Jack, if i have found a theme i like, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30799 how do i simplest install it?
[02:19] <Psi-Jack> I don't install themes. :p
[02:20] <Rodni> hey guys, nobody happened to use a TrendNet 435brm router around here eh/
[02:20] <Psi-Jack> But, I'm pretty sure installing a theme is pretty simple.
[02:22] <Rodni> I dont know how I ended up with this thing but it makes me mad trying to configure it.
[02:22] <yello> hi i was wondering if neone could tell me if kubuntu comes with any compilers
[02:22] <Rodni> I cant make the firewall to stop blocking every single damn port. I set rules and it just ignores them.
[02:24] <yello> im sorry i know its probably a stupid question but does it come with ne compilers?
[02:24] <yello> because everytime i use ./configure it sais it cant find any
[02:24] <yello> at $PATH
[02:26] <yello> can anyone help me please?
[02:26] <rich0rd> what does ./configure miss?
[02:27] <yello> ill copy the message for u
[02:27] <yello> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:27] <yello> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:28] <Hobbsee> yello: did you install build-essential?
[02:28] <yello> i dont think so how do i do that
[02:29] <wC> get gcc
[02:29] <wC> apt-get gcc
[02:29] <yello> ok thankyu
[02:29] <wC> it should work after you have it
[02:29] <yello> E: Invalid operation gcc
[02:29] <yello> E: Invalid operation gcc
[02:29] <wC> :-\
[02:30] <wC> you're using kubuntu correct?
[02:30] <yello> yes
[02:30] <Hobbsee> !build essential
[02:30] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:30] <yello> kubuntu 5.10
[02:30] <Hobbsee> !build-essential
[02:30] <ubotu> I guess build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[02:31] <FlakJacket> why does installing winex uninstall wine?
[02:31] <FlakJacket> i mean xwine
[02:31] <yello> ok sorry i am a complete noob but how do i do that
[02:31] <rich0rd> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:31] <yello> thanks
[02:31] <wC> :-P
[02:32] <wC> i'm pissed @ linux because TTY terminals look like crap on LCD
[02:32] <rich0rd> you will propably need more packages to build what you want, ./configure will tell you what is missing
[02:32] <yello> build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[02:32] <yello>                             libc-dev
[02:32] <FlakJacket> anyone know how to get yakuake to keep your schema setting between sessions?
[02:32] <crimsun> yello: you need to have the main repository enabled
[02:32] <yello> crimsun: how would i do that sorry
[02:33] <crimsun> yello: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use Adept
[02:33] <yello> build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[02:33] <yello>                             libc-dev
[02:33] <rich0rd> yello: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:33] <yello> wen i try to run adept it ses The APT Database will be opened in read-only mode, this means you cannot install/uninstall/upgrade anything. You have to run this program as root to be able to do that.
[02:33] <wC> ew @ vim
[02:34] <rich0rd> uncomment the line with main
[02:34] <wC> use mc or nano, they are the best editors
[02:34] <rich0rd> ... best
[02:34] <FlakJacket> so adept isn't auto kdesu?
[02:34] <rich0rd> it is taste
[02:34] <wC> yup
[02:34] <FlakJacket> yello do sudo apt-get
[02:34] <fm-2> yellowdart: you need to run as root. I.E. sudo adept
[02:34] <yello> i tried that it didnt work
[02:35] <Hobbsee> !kdesu
[02:35] <ubotu> it has been said that kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[02:35] <FlakJacket> try alt+f2 and kdesu adept
[02:36] <FlakJacket> you'll need to enter your user password
[02:37] <yello> thankyou for ur help ill see if it works now
[02:39] <FlakJacket> i like kpackage better btw
[02:40] <FlakJacket> haha
[02:40] <yello> can one download themes through Adept?
[02:41] <FlakJacket> i don't believe so
[02:41] <hatake_kakashi> nor do I
[02:41] <FlakJacket> kde-look.org
[02:42] <yello> ok
[02:42] <yello> thanks
[02:42] <yello> argh i downloaded gcc but
[02:42] <yello> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:42] <yello> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:42] <wC> lol
[02:42] <wC> what are you trying to install?
[02:42] <wC> compile/install
[02:42] <wC> ?
[02:42] <yello> im trying to install lipstik theme
[02:42] <FlakJacket> ah
[02:42] <wC> lol
[02:42] <FlakJacket> you'll have to compile that
[02:43] <FlakJacket> i did
[02:43] <FlakJacket> not too bad
[02:43] <yello> thats wat im trying to do lol :D
[02:43] <yello> how do i do that
[02:43] <FlakJacket> well... what have you done so far?
[02:43] <yello> unarchived it
[02:43] <yello> and tried to follow the instructions
[02:44] <yello> that came with it
[02:44] <FlakJacket> what error did ./configure give you?
[02:44] <yello> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:44] <yello> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:44] <FlakJacket> you have gcc?
[02:44] <yello> yep
[02:44] <FlakJacket> hmm....
[02:44] <yello> i just downloaded it
[02:45] <FlakJacket> through adept?
[02:45] <yello> yep
[02:45] <FlakJacket> hmm...
[02:45] <Alexi5> hello
[02:45] <FlakJacket> hey
[02:45] <yello> hi
[02:45] <FlakJacket> you any good compiling Alexis?
[02:46] <Alexi5> compiling what
[02:46] <yello> a theme
[02:46] <FlakJacket> sorry yello i've only had kubuntu for about a week
[02:46] <yello> thats fine :)
[02:46] <Alexi5> i nevere compiled a kde theme
[02:46] <Alexi5> is it possible to install zend studio on ubuntu
[02:46] <Rodni> FlakJacket do you like it?
[02:46] <yello> ok :)
[02:47] <FlakJacket> yeah it's the best i've tried in the past 4 years
[02:47] <yello> its great but lots of errors for me
[02:47] <FlakJacket> the forums are great
[02:48] <yello> yea i will try there next i think
[02:48] <FlakJacket> anyone know how to get yakuake to keep your schema setting between sessions?
[02:48] <yello> does neone here know about gcc?
[02:48] <Rodni> brb
[02:48] <yello> sorry if i knew wat it was id help but iv only had kubuntu for a day
[02:49] <FlakJacket> no that's ok
[02:49] <FlakJacket> yeah i had plastik for a bit but then i switched to a deKorator windec
[02:50] <FlakJacket> but yeah definately don't be afraid to post to the forums
[02:50] <yello> ill go post and see wat luck i get there thanks for ur help :D
[02:53] <FlakJacket> yeo
[02:53] <FlakJacket> yep
[03:09] <SmrtJustin> how do I add services that are in /etc/init.d/ to start at boot?
[03:10] <Alexi5> how do i setup apache2 on ubuntu
[03:10] <Hobbsee_away> !lamp
[03:10] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:23] <unholy> hello
[03:24] <unholy> be anyone here?
[03:24] <FlakJacket> i'm here
[03:24] <FlakJacket> in spirit
[03:25] <unholy> ok
[03:25] <unholy> whould u be able to help me install kubuntu?
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> unholy: there are guides all over the internet, just go browse for it
[03:25] <unholy> i cant boot it from cd because the machine doesn't allow it in bios
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> unholy: then reset your bios
[03:26] <unholy> its not an option, the machine is that old (mobo)
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> unholy: try updating to the latest version from your motherboard website
[03:27] <unholy> dell sorta does wanna know about me getting into the bios.
[03:27] <unholy> doesn't*
[03:27] <unholy> is there a way to boot from floppy then work from cd?
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> unholy: they don't care, if they do they won't give you bios updates freely off the internet
[03:28] <hatake_kakashi> doubt it
[03:31] <unholy> i found ones for redhat and suse :(
[03:31] <hatake_kakashi> unholy: what do you mean disks?
[03:32] <MacMon> hi
[03:32] <unholy> a floppy disk that mounts the cd
[03:32] <unholy> and runs the cd's boot
[03:32] <ragna> hatake_kakashi: hello =)
[03:33] <MacMon> Dose anyone here know how to run Kubuntu on the newest ppciMac G5s?
[03:33] <hatake_kakashi> unholy: if you can't do bios update then I don't know.. sure you can mod the floppy loader but hardly anyone has gone that far
[03:33] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: hi
[03:33] <Snake__> Whats a good file browser aside from konq?
[03:33] <Snake__> and krusader
[03:33] <ragna> anyone knows how to bind a command??? like "init 6" to "alt + f1"??
[03:34] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: for commands to commands, its alias, but from keyboard to command, that I'm not too sure
[03:35] <hatake_kakashi> ragna: actually the program 'bind' itself maybe useful, but you need to mess with xev first to get the key sequence I think
[03:35] <ragna> hhhmm
[03:35] <Snake__> Anyone?
[03:36] <hatake_kakashi> Snake__: nfi, I pretty much use whatever is available, maybe mc?
[03:36] <hatake_kakashi> MacMon: I assume you need to get Kubuntu with ppc as compiled output
[03:36] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: mc?
[03:37] <hatake_kakashi> Snake__: midnight commander, a shell based file browser
[03:37] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: ehhh no, im lookin more for gui
[03:37] <Snake__> And tryin to get away from the split screen deal
[03:37] <hatake_kakashi> Snake__: lol I see
[03:38] <MacMon> i downloaded kubuntu the livecd and intsall cd but both froze at a black/brown screen
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> MacMon: any last debug messages? check via Ctrl+Alt+F2, Ctrl+Alt+F3, Ctrl+Alt+F4
[03:40] <MacMon> i can't hit any keys beause the keyboard is frozen
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> MacMon: hmm
[03:41] <treyh0> openoffice is pretty on kubuntu-i386 but ugly on amd64 :(
[03:41] <treyh0> i installed the 32 bit version just cause of that
[03:41] <treyh0> heh.
[03:44] <Snake__> Kamping_Kaiser: help me out man
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> Snake__: sup mate?
[03:45] <Snake__> Kamping_Kaiser: lookin for a file browser other than konq, or krusader.
[03:45] <Snake__> Kamping_Kaiser: I dont want any split screen crap
[03:45] <FlakJacket> what's wrong wih konq then?
[03:45] <judgen> How do i remove borders in the taskbar
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Snake__: no idea. (just read up), i would have said mc as well :/
[03:45] <MacMon> it dosen't just do this for kubuntu/ubuntu it dose it forevery distro
[03:49] <treyh0> why aren't there more "rolling release" linux distros like archlinux, that can provide a stable base OS and then up to date desktop
[03:51] <Steven_M> hi all
[03:52] <Snake__> FlakJacket: konq is to slow
[03:52] <Snake__> (sorry about the late reply
[03:55] <Snake__> What does gnome use as a file browser
[03:55] <hatake_kakashi> Nautilus I think
[03:55] <mike> Anyone running the amd64 version?
[03:55] <Snake__> Hmm would that run on a KDE rig?
[03:56] <hatake_kakashi> Snake__: don't see why not, I can run KDE apps from Gnome, as long as the deps are set, etc
[03:56] <Snake__> Yea
[03:56] <mike> Any issues?
[03:56] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: Wtf?? Why is it not in the repos?
[03:57] <hatake_kakashi> Snake__: it should be
[03:57] <hatake_kakashi> mike: iirc if you want 64bit activated, some things are make or break. A fair few recommended using 32bit as it is more stable
[03:57] <hatake_kakashi> !info nautilus
[03:57] <ubotu> nautilus: (file manager and graphical shell for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 2672 kB
[03:58] <Snake__> odd...
[03:58] <Snake__> Let me update and try again
[03:58] <hatake_kakashi> if not then maybe you need ubuntu-desktop :)
[04:01] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: ha, screw that!
[04:01] <Snake__> They want me to install nearly 30% of ubuntu-desktop to run it
[04:02] <snoozix> hi there, on the kubuntu faq, i find that installing "kubuntu-desktop" should install kubuntu on a normal ubuntu system, but i still have kde 3.4.3 and not 3.5 :)
[04:02] <mike> well I got amd dapper running ok so far... I have been a gentoo user for about the last 2 yrs and I have finally gotten fed up with the community.. I got crapped upon in there IRC channel for a "silly" question
[04:03] <FlakJacket> oh that's stupid there are no bad questions
[04:03] <mike> so I switched to kubuntu...
[04:03] <snoozix> mike: same with me and those gnome developers. they suck.
[04:03] <yello> hi is it possible to use png files as ones icons and if so then how
[04:04] <snoozix> yello: for apps? yes it is.
[04:04] <mike> yeah, sounded like the person crapping on me was like a 15 yr old or something... so I pretty much dropped them like a bad habbit.. and so here I am..
[04:04] <yello> the kubuntu users seem really nice so far, im a noob and yet everyone has helped me so much
[04:04] <yello> snoozix: i meant for the system, like a theme
[04:04] <mike> I got a lot of debian experience... but I thought I would try this first.. so far so good
[04:04] <snoozix> yello: it's the philosophy of ubuntu to help each others.
[04:04] <snoozix> yello: =
[04:04] <snoozix> yello: ?
[04:04] <yello> snoozix: is there any way to make icon themes
[04:05] <Snake__> yello: mike : We are extremely kind, caring people :) Live by the philosophy :)
[04:05] <mike> the only thing I can't get working is my creative labs X-Fi soundcard and thats due to alsa
[04:05] <snoozix> yello: don't know what exactly your'e talking about. if it's what i think it is -> yes it is possible, but i do not exactly know how.
[04:05] <mike> the alsa folks don't have a driver for it yet
[04:05] <snoozix> mike: it should just work
[04:05] <snoozix> oh
[04:06] <mike> well it would if alsa had a driver for it :D
[04:06] <snoozix> i got a very unusual m-audio audiophile 2496 soundcard and it's fully supported.
[04:06] <snoozix> first i thought i will have to wait like 1 year or so until i get sound out of it under linux
[04:06] <mike> yeah, I was going to use a usb solution for now until the alsa folks get the driver going
[04:06] <snoozix> and, tadaaaaaaaaa, ubuntu installed and it just worked.
[04:07] <snoozix> usb solutions are input devices :)
[04:07] <yello> lol im not sure either i just want to change the system icons to a nice set i downloaded from a website (folders, system icos)
[04:07] <snoozix> anything else is beyond it and a workaround :)
[04:07] <snoozix> yello: oh
[04:07] <snoozix> yello: that should be possible indeed.
[04:07] <mike> how much of a difference is there between the ubuntu respotires and say like debian etch?
[04:07] <yello> lol does anyone know then :D
[04:07] <snoozix> yello: did you check out kde-look.org? i guess they have a howto you could use.
[04:08] <yello> thats where i got it from
[04:08] <yello> :D
[04:08] <snoozix> mike: don't really know.
[04:08] <mike> *typo
[04:08] <snoozix> mike: i think the biggest difference is in the update philosophy
[04:08] <snoozix> mike: ubuntu doesn't get updated that often. i consider this an advantage.
[04:09] <snoozix> mike: and if you really wanna know, ubuntu is for the lazy people. like life-artists, alcoholics, potsmokers, out-of-work people, problemchilds and so on.
[04:09] <snoozix> mike: and this is exactly why i like it.
[04:09] <Snake__> Hehe
[04:09] <Snake__> :-D
[04:10] <snoozix> hehe
[04:10] <snoozix> i would be too if there wasn't problem with my lounge health
[04:10] <snoozix> so im alcoholic
[04:10] <mike> Well ok.. I am really none of the above.. I work about 100 hrs a week... :(
[04:10] <snoozix> since 2 years
[04:10] <snoozix> can't smoke anymore
[04:10] <Nomad411> !icewm
[04:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[04:10] <snoozix> mike: do whatever you think is good for you.
[04:10] <Nomad411> !fluxbox
[04:10] <ubotu> I heard fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[04:10] <Snake__> mike: it's okay, we have a spot for you, its called the WA (worcoholics anamous)
[04:10] <snoozix> Nomad411: fluxbox is great.
[04:11] <mike> The life of a sysadmin... in the military
[04:11] <snoozix> Nomad411: if you got any problems, ask.
[04:11] <yello> what is the .* of theme files?
[04:11] <Snake__> Nomad411: ill second snoozix
[04:11] <Snake__> yello: .theme
[04:11] <snoozix> Snake__: hm
[04:11] <Nomad411> snoozix: Is there a fluxbox-desktop from apt^
[04:11] <yello> hmmm i downloaded a .theme
[04:11] <Snake__> Nomad411: nope
[04:11] <Snake__> Nomad411: you can get fluxbox tho
[04:11] <yello> but wen i try to load it it doesnt appear
[04:11] <Nomad411> so I just install fluxbox
[04:11] <snoozix> Nomad411: if you don't need twinview, apt-get install fluxbox.
[04:11] <Snake__> Nomad411: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[04:11] <yello> in the file opener thing
[04:11] <Snake__> yello: what do you mean
[04:12] <Nomad411> twinview == 2 monitors^
[04:12] <snoozix> Nomad411: if you do, i can upload you a customized .deb if you want to.
[04:12] <Nomad411> ?
[04:12] <snoozix> Nomad411: exactly.
[04:12] <Nomad411> no need, but thanks :)
[04:12] <Snake__> Nomad411: then just do what I said
[04:12] <yello> wen i go Install New Theme (in sys settings) i brows to the folder with the .theme inside but its not ther
[04:12] <mike> ok so I got the dapper installed here and so far so good.. doing a apt-get dist-upgrade.. so far so good.. things like flash and stuff should be in the resp? right?
[04:12] <yello> the folder seems empty from that but in konqueror its full of stuff incl. the .theme
[04:13] <Nomad411> ftp.free.fr is down, it doesn't come from there does it?
[04:13] <Snake__> yello: what are you trying to isntall?
[04:13] <snoozix> Nomad411: then the normal fluxbox should just work....
[04:13] <yello> a theme
[04:13] <yello> called Silver Vista
[04:13] <Snake__> Nomad411: no, its from the universe
[04:13] <Nomad411> getting now
[04:13] <snoozix> Nomad411: maybe you like to play around with styles. that's a little bit mad in fluxbox, but i think you will first want to figure out why by yourself.
[04:13] <Snake__> yello: one sec
[04:14] <snoozix> Nomad411: but let me tell you - it's an awesome windowmanager and i really like fluxbox a lot.
[04:14] <Nomad411> I<m hoping for performance.. :)
[04:14] <mike> fluxbox is nice and quite quick
[04:14] <snoozix> you'll get it right in ya face.
[04:14] <Snake__> yello: this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35445&PHPSESSID=725028e89525867d3b6de6d8ecccd392
[04:14] <Nomad411> then looks of course
[04:14] <snoozix> performance
[04:15] <snoozix> there is more performance than in any other WM i guess.
[04:15] <Snake__> Nomad411: you want preformace??? Hit Alt+Ctrl+F1 and go full CLI!
[04:15] <yello> yea
[04:15] <Snake__> Hehe
[04:15] <snoozix> if you face the look, especially.
[04:15] <Nomad411> Where do I change window manager?  (and back if all hell breaks loose?)
[04:15] <snoozix> Snake__: hehe
[04:15] <yello> thats the one :D
[04:15] <mike> cli is your friend
[04:15] <Snake__> Nomad411: know where you log in at? There is a button that says session type
[04:15] <snoozix> Nomad411: i don't use gdm, sorry.
[04:15] <yello> how do install it
[04:15] <Nomad411> k
[04:15] <Nomad411> re-sessioning
[04:15] <Snake__> yello: that is for IceWM
[04:15] <snoozix> Nomad411: i just removed the gdm init script and use ~/.xinitrc instead.
[04:16] <yello> ah ok
[04:16] <yello> lol thanks
[04:16] <Snake__> yello: that will only work if you dump KDE and move to IceWM
[04:16] <yello> no way
[04:16] <yello> lol thanks
[04:16] <yello> i didnt realise
[04:16] <Snake__> :)
[04:16] <Snake__> No problem
[04:16] <snoozix> icewm is nice, too. but at the moment i use kde and i'm happy to use kde.
[04:16] <Snake__> I love my KDE
[04:16] <snoozix> and it really works fine once you got used to it.
[04:16] <yello> does anyone know how to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28684
[04:16] <snoozix> Snake__: yes :)
[04:17] <Snake__> Hmmm nope yello
[04:17] <yello> kde has been fine other than compiling gcc for the 2 days iv used it
[04:17] <yello> yea noone seems to know how
[04:17] <snoozix> Snake__: it's hard to configure it so it gets usable i think, but once you did that, it's awesome!
[04:17] <Snake__> yello: whats wrong with gcc?
[04:17] <yello> it wont compile anything for me
[04:17] <yello> i keep getting error messages
[04:18] <mike> compling.. ahh yes.. the days of gentoo and the 4 1/2 days to took me to build the box from scratch
[04:18] <Snake__> yello: do you have build essentials?
[04:18] <yello> i couldnt find build essentials
[04:18] <Snake__> !info build-essentials
[04:18] <Snake__> Uhh crap
[04:18] <angasule> mike: you did a stage 1? suicide :P I used a stage 3
[04:18] <Snake__> I cant spell
[04:18] <mike> stage 1 here... all the way
[04:18] <Snake__> yello: this is for you
[04:18] <Snake__> !info build-essential
[04:18] <yello> thanks
[04:18] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[04:18] <angasule> doesn't make sense to me, but if you want to suffer, go ahead :P
[04:19] <Snake__> yello: sudo apt-get install build-essential should take care of gcc
[04:19] <Snake__> !gcc
[04:19] <ubotu> well, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:19] <yello> ok thanks
[04:19] <mike> and that was with a "fast" machine... a p4 3.0 with Hyper threading..
[04:19] <Snake__> hmm yello I want this icon set
[04:19] <Snake__> lol
[04:19] <angasule> I have an athlon xp 2000+
[04:19] <mike> I have a amd athlon 64 3700+ and it screams..
[04:20] <angasule> I hate you, mike
[04:20] <Snake__> I got a rocking Pentium 3!!!
[04:20] <yello> woah thanks so much
[04:20] <yello> lol same
[04:20] <Snake__> 700 MHZ!!
[04:20] <yello> :D
[04:20] <mike> and I got 2 gigs of ram to boot
[04:20] <yello> that ricebowl icon set is great
[04:20] <Snake__> mike: Im rollin 512
[04:20] <Snake__> hehe
[04:20] <angasule> I have a 286 in my closet :P
[04:20] <yello> if neone could make it a theme
[04:20] <mike> I worked hard for this machine
[04:20] <mike> ;)
[04:20] <Snake__> mike: my big rig (gaming rig) has got a P4 EE 3.6 Ghz w/ 2 gigs of ram :)
[04:20] <Snake__> I love that machine
[04:21] <GoDawgs> hey guys... i just ins
[04:21] <mike> Godawgs: How do you like fios service.. there getting ready to lay down the fiber here in my neighboorhood
[04:21] <GoDawgs> installed kubuntu dapper on my lappy and i've come to see it's quite a big different
[04:21] <GoDawgs> mike: it rocks!
[04:21] <GoDawgs> i can download a full image in about 30 minutes
[04:21] <GoDawgs> plus they grandfatherd me in so i'm only paying 29 bucks a month
[04:22] <GoDawgs> for the next year
[04:22] <yello> omg thankyou soooo much for the build essentials
[04:22] <angasule> I have a laptop with 32MB
[04:22] <Snake__> Download...a full image in 30 mins??
[04:22] <yello> :D
[04:22] <mike> GoDawgs: Really, you getting 15 mps service?
[04:22] <Snake__> Tha sounds slow...
[04:22] <yello> thankyou!
[04:22] <GoDawgs> Snake__: you got it
[04:22] <Snake__> yello: does it work?
[04:22] <GoDawgs> mike: i don't know honestly
[04:22] <Snake__> GoDawgs: image ofwhat?
[04:22] <GoDawgs> i should have asked but forgot
[04:22] <GoDawgs> Snake__: ubuntu
[04:22] <angasule> I'm dying to put linux in it, if my mother gives up (the screen can't close, it's broken, but it works fine)
[04:22] <yello> yep!
[04:22] <yello> :D
[04:22] <mike> GoDawgs: where u located?
[04:22] <GoDawgs> So Cal
[04:22] <GoDawgs> where are you mike?
[04:22] <yello> wait
[04:22] <yello> no
[04:22] <mike> Godawgs: Va Beach here
[04:23] <yello> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:23] <Snake__> GoDawgs: meh not that impressive, I get mine in about 35-35, thats fibers right?
[04:23] <GoDawgs> oh right on... I'm originally from Georgia
[04:23] <Snake__> yello: this is for you
[04:23] <Snake__> !xincludes
[04:23] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[04:23] <GoDawgs> Snake__: yes, fiber
[04:23] <yello> ok thanks
[04:23] <mike> Yeah thats fiber to the premises or what ever...
[04:23] <yello> and how would one do that sorry (sudo apt-get...)?
[04:23] <GoDawgs> mike: exactly
[04:23] <Snake__> yello: yes sir
[04:23] <yello> thanks
[04:23] <GoDawgs> they also installed all the hardware and all the wiring for no charge here
[04:23] <mike> Verizon is getting ready to lay down fiber here in my neigboorhood.. 15 meg down and 2 up
[04:24] <GoDawgs> i've had it about 3 months... and can't imagine going backwards...
[04:24] <angasule> I hate you all! and mike in particular
[04:24] <mike> or something like that...
[04:24] <GoDawgs> my mom has d/u and oh my god!  i felt like i was in the stone ages
[04:24] <mike> hate me? but why?? I am a great guy :D
[04:24] <angasule> I have 256k down and 128 up and they call it broadband, at least I'm not in .za
[04:24] <mike> where u at ang?
[04:24] <GoDawgs> angasule: that's why you're feeling so foul... jealousy!
[04:24] <GoDawgs> :)
[04:24] <Snake__> im 3m down 1.5m up
[04:24] <angasule> mike: actually, I hate everybody, don't worry
[04:25] <angasule> mike: argentina
[04:25] <GoDawgs> Snake__: trust me it makes a huge differnce
[04:25] <mike> ah... I see... great coffee there
[04:25] <yello> E: Couldn't find package xlibs-dev
[04:25] <Snake__> yello: hmm hang on
[04:25] <GoDawgs> and i sincerely doubt that you can download a full image in 30 minutes
[04:25] <Snake__> !info xlibs-dev
[04:25] <ubotu> xlibs-dev: (X Window System client library development files transitional package), section oldlibs, is extra. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[04:25] <angasule> really? don't know, I drink instant coffee, I'm lazy
[04:25] <Snake__> Its there...
[04:25] <mike> Cox has me at like 5 down and 768 up
[04:25] <GoDawgs> hey mike, how do you add software that's been downloaded to the menu?
[04:25] <Snake__> yello: sudo apt-get update
[04:26] <yello> ok thanks
[04:26] <Snake__> yello: then try to install again
[04:26] <angasule> there is this one coffee machine at uni that's insane, though, it's like the Pee of God or something, very good stuff
[04:26] <GoDawgs> I think the pee of anyone is disgusting
[04:26] <Snake__> Haha
[04:26] <GoDawgs> I mean really...
[04:26] <GoDawgs> ewe!
[04:26] <yello> Reading package lists... Done
[04:26] <yello> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:26] <yello> E: Couldn't find package xlib-dev
[04:26] <Snake__> Lets use a nicer term..like the sweat of god!
[04:27] <mike> I see... I live off of coffee.... I in the navy so its the live blood of the fleet
[04:27] <angasule> pee is medicinal, really! drink your pee and you'll see
[04:27] <Snake__> yello: do you have your repos open?
[04:27] <yello> my wat - lol im such a noob
[04:27] <GoDawgs> Ok... that enough of that talk... come one now...
[04:27] <Snake__> yello: did you ever enable universe and multiverse repos?
[04:27] <yello> how would i have done that
[04:27] <angasule> !repositories
[04:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:27] <mike> I'll pass on the pee stuff.. thanks...
[04:27] <yello> so i should do that first
[04:27] <Snake__> yello: Read up there
[04:27] <GoDawgs> mike i agree totally!
[04:27] <Snake__> yello: yep
[04:28] <angasule> yes, yello, it's very important
[04:28] <yello> ok thanks
[04:28] <Snake__> yello: follow the first link shown, then go to the directions for kubuntu
[04:28] <Snake__> yello: or you can use this one as well
[04:28] <Snake__> !adept
[04:28] <ubotu> from memory, adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:28] <Psi-Jack> Anyone here on the ubuntu-annouce and ubuntu-security-announce mailing lists?
[04:28] <Snake__> wait
[04:28] <angasule> ok, then you don't want to know my theory about where chocolate comes from
[04:28] <Snake__> yello: never mind
[04:28] <GoDawgs> mike tell me where i can make all my apps that are downloaded appear in the menu... do youi know how?
[04:28] <GoDawgs> oops - YOU sorry
[04:28] <yello> wats synaptic package manager
[04:28] <yello> ah ok
[04:28] <yello> lol
[04:28] <Snake__> yello: scroll to the bottom
[04:28] <Snake__> yello: symaptic is for ubuntu
[04:28] <Nomad411> Snake__: yello:  Thanks for the thumbs up for fluxbox, it's very snappy!
[04:29] <GoDawgs> yello it's how you get software
[04:29] <Psi-Jack> yello: Synaptic is Ubuntu's package manager.
[04:29] <yello> adept?
[04:29] <GoDawgs> same thing
[04:29] <GoDawgs> just for kde though
[04:29] <yello> cool
[04:29] <Snake__> yello: yea, down at the veryyy bottom
[04:29] <Psi-Jack> Adept is Kubuntu's package manager.
[04:29] <Psi-Jack> Synaptic uses GTK+, while Adept uses Qt
[04:29] <GoDawgs> i too am VERY new to adept
[04:29] <Psi-Jack> Basically.
[04:29] <yello> ok im on the kubuntu one
[04:29] <Snake__> GoDawgs: I dont like it, Apt for life
[04:30] <mike> Godawgs: I thought it should do it by it self...
[04:30] <GoDawgs> Snake__: You don't like synaptic?
[04:30] <GoDawgs> mike: I dd too
[04:30] <GoDawgs> it doesn't...
[04:30] <Snake__> GoDawgs: no, I dont like adept...well I dont like synaptic either
[04:30] <yello> lol i already know how to use adept
[04:30] <mike> Godawgs: not sure what script.... update menu maybe
[04:30] <GoDawgs> so far i'm not impress by adept
[04:30] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: So.. What do you like, might I ask?
[04:30] <mike> or menu update
[04:30] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: apt ;)
[04:30] <GoDawgs> mike: where do i find that?
[04:30] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: and aplitude
[04:30] <mike> cli
[04:30] <angasule> adept gives too little information in my opinion, but at least it doesn't have a 'k' in its name
[04:30] <mike> brb
[04:30] <yello> ok so i search for those libs using adept?
[04:30] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: Basically, you like CLI.
[04:30] <GoDawgs> i used ubuntu dapper and i didnt' have that option... must be a kde thing
[04:31] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: No, i'm no CLI freak, but I just dont digg the current managers
[04:31] <GoDawgs> angasule: so true!
[04:31] <GoDawgs> can one use synaptic in kde?
[04:31] <yello> do i search for the libs using adpet?
[04:31] <Snake__> honkzilla: yep
[04:31] <Snake__> oops
[04:31] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: That's cool. It's all about preference anyway.
[04:31] <angasule> adept gives *way* too little info, and the search sucks badly
[04:31] <Snake__> GoDawgs: yep
[04:31] <Snake__> ugh.
[04:31] <Snake__> lol
[04:31] <Psi-Jack> yello: By using the filter input box.
[04:32] <yello> yep
[04:32] <yello> pl
[04:32] <yello> wat libs were they agin sorry
[04:32] <yello> the x thing
[04:32] <Snake__> yello: you could just apt-get, its faster than waiting for the that thing to search when you know the name of the package
[04:32] <Snake__> !xincludes
[04:32] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[04:32] <yello> it says they're installed
[04:32] <angasule> but anyway, it'll probably be much better in dapper, maybe there're screenies available, brb
[04:32] <Snake__> yello: impossible.... do sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[04:32] <GoDawgs> well that sucks kopete just crapped out
[04:32] <GoDawgs> fantastic... gotta love beta
[04:33] <Snake__> GoDawgs: yes you can run synaptic on kde
[04:33] <GoDawgs> snake ok right on
[04:33] <yello> E: Couldn't find package xlibs-dev
[04:33] <Snake__> yello: sudo apt-get update again
[04:33] <GoDawgs> Snake__: is there a setting i should check to enable all software downloaded to appear in the menu?
[04:34] <yello> ahh
[04:34] <yello> found it
[04:34] <Snake__> GoDawgs: I think everything appears there by default, but I noticed, (And this may be a bug) some times I need to restart X for it to show up
[04:34] <yello> sudo apt-get install xlibs
[04:34] <yello> not xlibs-dev
[04:34] <Snake__> yello: your going to need dev.
[04:34] <yello> is that right?
[04:34] <yello> ok
[04:34] <Snake__> yello: dev is what builds it
[04:34] <GoDawgs> Snake__: forgive me... i've forgotten how to restart X
[04:34] <yello> ahh
[04:34] <yello> hmm
[04:34] <GoDawgs> ctrl-alt-bkspace?
[04:34] <Snake__> yep
[04:35] <yello> in adept i cant find ne devs either
[04:35] <Snake__> yello: all your universe/multiverse is enabled, and you updated?
[04:35] <yello> yep
[04:35] <Snake__> Hmmmmmmm
[04:36] <GoDawgs> oh yeah... restarting X makes everything go away again
[04:36] <yello> i think my uni/multiverse things r enabled
[04:36] <GoDawgs> hehehehe
[04:36] <Snake__> yello: type in apt-cache search xlibs
[04:36] <Snake__> yello: then PM me the results, or pastebin them
[04:36] <GoDawgs> Snake__: nope... i don't see firefox anywhere
[04:36] <GoDawgs> ok i'll try using synaptic
[04:36] <GoDawgs> breb
[04:36] <GoDawgs> brb
[04:36] <yello> keyboard-config - XKB data
[04:36] <yello> xlibs - X Window System client library transitional package
[04:36] <yello> xorg-common - X Window System (X.Org) infrastructure
[04:36] <Snake__> dont spam.....
[04:36] <Steven_M> How  can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access)  The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to  run the program as.
[04:36] <Snake__> yello: is that all?
[04:36] <yello> sorry
[04:36] <yello> yep
[04:37] <Snake__> yello: one moment
[04:37] <GoDawgs> sorry - adept could not fine mime/time application/octet stream
[04:37] <GoDawgs> what in hell is that?
[04:37] <GoDawgs> no mime types instaled
[04:37] <GoDawgs> installed
[04:38] <GoDawgs> Snake__: any ideas?
[04:38] <Snake__> GoDawgs: huh?
[04:38] <Snake__> lol
[04:38] <Snake__> yello: your sure your universe is enabled...thats all it could really be
[04:38] <Snake__> yello: you hit apply before you hit close right?
[04:38] <GoDawgs> then when i go to see if firefox is installed... it says it's not but then gives me a button for keep package... wtf?
[04:38] <yello> ok ill have a look wat was the website for it again
[04:38] <yello> soz
[04:39] <Snake__> yello: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:39] <yello> brb phone sorry
[04:40] <Snake__> GoDawgs: odd
[04:40] <GoDawgs> that's my middle name
[04:40] <yello> sorry back
[04:40] <GoDawgs> i have firefox now though... that's very strange ...
[04:40] <angasule> mine is cornelius, if you tell anyone I'll kill you
[04:40] <Snake__> LOL
[04:40] <angasule> (the last cowboy quote :P )
[04:41] <Snake__> angasule: you just told 134 people ;)
[04:41] <angasule> 130 of whom are asleep :P plus I don't really have a middle name, my parents don't like them
[04:41] <Snake__> GoDawgs: so you have firefox installed, but it doesnt show up on kmenu?
[04:41] <GoDawgs> Snake__: oddly enough it is now
[04:41] <yello> ahh its the repsitories
[04:41] <yello> damn "apply" button
[04:41] <yello> brb
[04:42] <GoDawgs> and i just got synaptic... so now i'm dumping adept
[04:42] <Snake__> yello: yea i made that mistake a few times :)
[04:42] <GoDawgs> that sucked big
[04:42] <GoDawgs> i love synaptic...
[04:42] <Snake__> lol
[04:42] <GoDawgs> it gives a lot more info
[04:42] <Snake__> GoDawgs: kould have been worse
[04:42] <GoDawgs> than adept
[04:42] <Snake__> rememebr..what wsa that one with hoary...
[04:42] <GoDawgs> pardon the k right? :)
[04:42] <Snake__> krynaptic??
[04:42] <Snake__> Something like that...
[04:43] <GoDawgs> oh good lord... youi know i wasn't around linux then
[04:43] <GoDawgs> just only in the last 8 or so months
[04:43] <Snake__> GoDawgs: aw that sucks :)
[04:43] <GoDawgs> nah, i'm ok with it :)
[04:43] <Snake__> GoDawgs: I just started on it...in novemeber
[04:43] <yello> really sorry bout that all repositories r open now
[04:43] <GoDawgs> Snake__: WOWWW!  I'm so impressed
[04:43] <yello> lol
[04:43] <Snake__> but I tried it a while back on hoary, and I was just to over wheled, but what I do remeber, that the package manger SUCKED
[04:44] <yello> ok so i search for
[04:44] <GoDawgs> i'm not a programmer... I'm a web designer... and a girl brand new to any os besides Winblows
[04:44] <yello> the devs
[04:44] <Snake__> GoDawgs: Female!? hehe that doesnt happen
[04:44] <Snake__> yello: try that apt-get install xlibs-dev
[04:44] <angasule> GoDawgs: you made a mistake, never tell your a female human in a geek channel :P
[04:44] <GoDawgs> Snake__: hehe... yeah, it does... I'm afraid. :)
[04:44] <GoDawgs> angasule: why?
[04:44] <angasule> s/your/you're/
[04:44] <_david> hello... i just installed Kubuntu last night, and was just looking around - including Administrator functions. I had to walk away for a bit, and when I came back my screen was different - a terminal window was open. I'm feuding with my roommate, and now all of the Administrator functions won't go past the password; is there any way I can re-set the Admin password from the terminal window?
[04:44] <Snake__> GoDawgs: I'm a webdesigner myself, fun job :)
[04:44] <Snake__> HAHA angasule
[04:44] <angasule> GoDawgs: because they're geeks! they don't know female humans
[04:44] <GoDawgs> Snake__: I love it!
[04:45] <GoDawgs> angasule: hehehe... I'm a geek too... and I know plenty!
[04:45] <GoDawgs> :)
[04:45] <Snake__> angasule: heyyy, my gfs have loved me
[04:45] <Alexi5> later
[04:45] <yello> thanks im just updating first
[04:45] <GoDawgs> Snake__: yeah, you tell 'em ;)
[04:45] <Steven_M> any ideas about my problem?
[04:45] <angasule> Snake__: both your right and left hands?? :P
[04:45] <Snake__> angasule: ill kill you
[04:45] <GoDawgs> angasule: terrible... :)
[04:45] <mike> sorry about that.. had to reboot
[04:45] <angasule> Steven_M: what was it?
[04:45] <GoDawgs> sudo apt-kill angasule
[04:45] <GoDawgs> hehehehhee
[04:46] <yello> haha
[04:46] <Snake__> GoDawgs: http://ctc.vipsystems.us is my website (very outdated, im moving to a newer server (feuer-frei.net)
[04:46] <Snake__> Check out my site
[04:46] <GoDawgs> i'm going there right now
[04:46] <_david> worthless room
[04:46] <angasule> 'check out my site', see? that's a geek pickup line
[04:46] <GoDawgs> _david: be nice now
[04:46] <Snake__> LOL
[04:46] <GoDawgs> we're allowed to have fun too now :)
[04:46] <_david> fu
[04:46] <yello> wow the update takes ages
[04:46] <Snake__> danimo: whats your ptoblem.
[04:46] <Snake__> oops
[04:46] <Snake__> crap.
[04:46] <Snake__> ment that to david
[04:46] <angasule> he left
[04:47] <Snake__> Assholes...let him run to gentoo.
[04:47] <GoDawgs> Snake__: that's nice...
[04:47] <angasule> Steven_M: what was your problem?
[04:47] <Snake__> hell fit in just fine
[04:47] <GoDawgs> your sitethat is
[04:47] <angasule> Snake__: hey, not all assholes use gentoo, I don't anymore, for example
[04:47] <Snake__> hehe
[04:47] <yello> lol
[04:47] <Snake__> yello: did ya get it?
[04:47] <yello> still updating sorry
[04:48] <GoDawgs> Snake__: i'm not a gamer so i can't fully appreciate it.... but i do see the code work that went into it :)
[04:48] <yello> ok
[04:48] <yello> so
[04:48] <GoDawgs> Snake__: here's my personal site www.kelleychambers.com
[04:48] <angasule> is this channel utf-8?
[04:48] <yello> sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[04:48] <Snake__> yello: alright, dont worry, your getting 18,000 packages :)
[04:48] <GoDawgs> and there's breakingwind.org
[04:48] <Snake__> yello: yep
[04:48] <GoDawgs> www.breakingwind.org
[04:48] <yello> ok dling now
[04:48] <GoDawgs> i have a slew of 'em
[04:48] <Snake__> Heh
[04:48] <Snake__> GoDawgs: how long you been in the game?
[04:49] <GoDawgs> i've been a certified designer since '02
[04:49] <Snake__> Nice
[04:49] <Snake__> I'm only 16 :)
[04:49] <GoDawgs> Snake__: are you in the states?
[04:49] <GoDawgs> Snake__: oh lord.. I'm 33
[04:49] <Snake__> GoDawgs: yea, ohio
[04:49] <GoDawgs> hehehe
[04:49] <Snake__> Haha
[04:49] <yello> :D
[04:49] <yello> im 15
[04:49] <GoDawgs> is there anyone in here legal to vote? :)
[04:49] <Snake__> yello: learn young! Linux is the future!
[04:49] <GoDawgs> hehehehe
[04:49] <yello> but still as stupid as neone lol i dont learn
[04:49] <yello> lol
[04:49] <Steven_M> How  can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access)  The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to  run the program as.
[04:49] <Steven_M> [16:36]  <Snake__> yello: is that all?
[04:49] <GoDawgs> yeah i agre
[04:49] <yello> not yet
[04:50] <angasule> Snake__: that's your wife in the pic? good looking :)
[04:50] <GoDawgs> Steven_M: i'm not sure. I'm quite new also.
[04:50] <Snake__> angasule: huh?
[04:50] <jariep1_> hi all
[04:50] <GoDawgs> angasule: he's 16 dude
[04:50] <GoDawgs> i dont' think he's married...
[04:50] <yello> wat was the other one
[04:50] <jariep1_> how do I switch between installed java versions?
[04:50] <angasule> ah, well, I couldn't know that :P
[04:50] <Snake__> Nope, cant say I am :)
[04:50] <yello> xlibs-dev and then there was another wasnt there
[04:50] <Snake__> ubotu: tell yello about xincludes
[04:51] <Snake__> there yello, now dont exit that :)
[04:51] <GoDawgs> Steven_M: I would ask the folks in #ubuntu... I'll bet they can help you...
[04:51] <yello> thanks
[04:51] <mnoir> Steven_M: try typing a different user into the box and give their pswd...
[04:51] <yello> ok ill try compiling now
[04:52] <angasule> Steven_M: if you "su otherUser" and become that user in a console, can you run things from there? maybe you have to add " -- :0" or something like that
[04:52] <angasule> hmm, the local LUG is semi-dissolving
[04:52] <Snake__> yello: hows it goin
[04:53] <yello> fingers crossed
[04:53] <Snake__> yello: are you checkinstalling?
[04:53] <yello> u wont believe this
[04:53] <Snake__> Sure I will
[04:53] <yello> how do i send u a pm
[04:53] <yello> sorry
[04:53] <Snake__> yello: what program ya using for IRC client
[04:53] <yello> Konversation
[04:53] <Snake__> Double click my name :)
[04:53] <yello> i g2g in 10
[04:54] <yello> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:54] <yello> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:54] <Snake__> !qt
[04:54] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[04:54] <Snake__> !qtheaders
[04:54] <ubotu> Snake__: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:54] <Snake__> Hold on...
[04:54] <Snake__> nalioth_zZz: you here??
[04:54] <yello> lol
[04:54] <Nomad411> FF1.5 is soo amzingly faster using fluxbox!
[04:54] <angasule> yello: you want to compile a qt app?
[04:55] <yello> i dont know im trying to compile a theme i think
[04:55] <yello> lipstick theme
[04:55] <angasule> you need qt-devel or qt-dev, not sure the name
[04:55] <Snake__> yello: I dont know what you need for the headers :(
[04:55] <Snake__> nalioth_zZz: does...
[04:55] <angasule> that's the only thing I miss about gentoo, it installs all headers
[04:55] <angasule> when something asks for the header of X program, search for X-dev or X-devel in the repos
[04:56] <yello> lol ok thanks
[04:56] <Snake__> angasule: we need it for qt
[04:56] <angasule> you're welcome
[04:56] <yello> already installed
[04:56] <Snake__> yello: thats for X, not qt
[04:56] <yello> x-dev already installed
[04:57] <Snake__> yello: can you come back tomorrow?
[04:57] <yello> yea
[04:57] <yello> wat time?
[04:57] <yello> i have school so itll have to be arvo
[04:57] <Snake__> yello: im here all day ;)
[04:57] <angasule> yellowdart: I was using 'x' as a 'magic card', you must install qt-dev or qt-devel
[04:57] <yello> lol ok
[04:57] <yello> ill come on around 6:00 or 7:00
[04:57] <Snake__> yello: what time zone
[04:57] <yello> hmm
[04:57] <yello> est
[04:58] <Snake__> yello: alrighty, ill try to be here
[04:58] <Snake__> If im not here, theres plenty of others :)
[04:58] <yello> thanks
[04:58] <yello> :D
[04:58] <angasule> actually, it's a bit more complicated, searching for libqt will give a list of all qt-related packages
[04:58] <yello> how do i search i g2g in a sec
[04:58] <Snake__> yello: type it in adept
[04:58] <angasule> in the Adept program there's a search box
[04:58] <yello> ill just add a sticky for later
[04:59] <angasule> libqt3-headers is the package you have to install, I think
[04:59] <yello> woah theres a whole heap
[04:59] <yello> ok thanks
[04:59] <Snake__> angasule: I think your right
[05:00] <yello> installing
[05:00] <angasule> Snake__: I hate qt's moc
[05:00] <Snake__> angasule: im going to find out the exact names when nalioth_zZz is on, and im gonna make a factoid. we need one
[05:01] <yello> i g2g thanks for all ur help
[05:01] <Snake__> c ya yello
[05:01] <yello> ill be on tomorrow between 6 and 7 est snake
[05:01] <yello> cya :D
[05:02] <GoDawgs> Snake__: another satisfied customer huh? :)
[05:02] <Snake__> GoDawgs: of course :)
[05:02] <GoDawgs> LOL
[05:03] <Snake__> GoDawgs: were you the one saying you came from another distro?
[05:03] <GoDawgs> um... kinda... i was on Ubuntu Dapper...
[05:03] <GoDawgs> not really another distro... just another version
[05:03] <GoDawgs> i've used suse and mepis before though
[05:03] <Snake__> Ah, someone said they came from gentoo I think..
[05:04] <GoDawgs> not I
[05:04] <angasule> I was a gentooite
[05:04] <angasule> but I think someone said the same before me
[05:04] <GoDawgs> angasule: what made you switch?
[05:04] <angasule> gentoo
[05:04] <Snake__> heh
[05:04] <GoDawgs> ahh... didn't like it anymore?
[05:05] <angasule> no, actually, I messed up gentoo (my fault, as usual), and there was a lot of talk about k/ubuntu at the time in the LUG
[05:05] <Snake__> k/ubuntu is taking overr!! rawr!!
[05:05] <Snake__> :)
[05:05] <GoDawgs> oh right on
[05:05] <angasule> I didn't feel like reinstalling gentoo, and there wasn't any other distro appealing to me
[05:05] <Snake__> Suse is VERY good.
[05:05] <Snake__> I love suse almost as much as kubuntyu
[05:05] <angasule> I had started with suse, but it had become too windows-like
[05:06] <GoDawgs> how does one pronounce Kubuntu ... is it Koo-bun-too or Kah-bun-too
[05:06] <GoDawgs> yeah I love SuSE also
[05:06] <Snake__> Koo - bun - too :)
[05:06] <angasule> I think it's kooboontoo?
[05:06] <GoDawgs> Snake__: thanks :)
[05:06] <GoDawgs> really?
[05:06] <angasule> anyway, english vowels are a joke
[05:06] <GoDawgs> Boon?
[05:06] <GoDawgs> hehehehe
[05:06] <Snake__> I think its bun..
[05:06] <GoDawgs> Good... I like buns. :)O
[05:06] <GoDawgs> hehehe
[05:07] <Snake__> Kubuntu is pronounced "koo-boon-too".
[05:07] <GoDawgs> oh ya'll have a sense of humor... come on....
[05:07] <angasule> bantu languages have nice sounds, I think kubuntu comes from a bantu language, but I'm not sure
[05:07] <Snake__> grr
[05:07] <GoDawgs> right on
[05:07] <Snake__> I like bun more :(
[05:07] <GoDawgs> I do too.  I think I'll say it Koo-bun-too
[05:07] <GoDawgs> :0
[05:07] <angasule> GoDawgs: I don't like buns, well, not the ones used for sandwiches in any case :P
[05:07] <GoDawgs> just for the hell of it
[05:07] <GoDawgs> angasule: I like those... too! :)
[05:07] <Snake__> s/claling/calling
[05:08] <GoDawgs> hey guys i'll be right back
[05:08] <Snake__> Peace
[05:08] <Steven_M> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:09] <GoDawgs> i need to find some sources to install Skype
[05:09] <Steven_M> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:09] <Steven_M> (mozilla-thunderbird-bin:8793): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:09] <GoDawgs> i'll be back
[05:09] <Steven_M> gold@toshiba-laptop:/home/Steven$  mozilla-thunderbird --:0
[05:09] <Steven_M> selected locale: en-US
[05:09] <Steven_M> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:09] <Steven_M> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:09] <Snake__> GoDawgs: may I suggest klik?
[05:09] <hatake_kakashi> !tell Steven_M about pastebin
[05:09] <GoDawgs> what's that snake?
[05:09] <GoDawgs> hatake_kakashi: exactly
[05:09] <GoDawgs> thanks
[05:09] <Snake__> GoDawgs: one moment, this is the most convient thing youll ever use
[05:09] <GoDawgs> ok i'll wait
[05:09] <hatake_kakashi> GoDawgs: np
[05:10] <Snake__> GoDawgs: this is great when you dont have repos, and dont want to complie
[05:10] <Snake__> http://klik.atekon.de/
[05:10] <GoDawgs> oh okay... let me check it out
[05:11] <Snake__> GoDawgs: its one click install, on any program they have on their site
[05:11] <angasule> Snake__: how reliable is it?
[05:11] <Snake__> GoDawgs: then it only uses one file, delete that file BAM. Program gone
[05:11] <Snake__> angasule: very reliable
[05:11] <GoDawgs> Snake__: but i have to instal klik first right?
[05:11] <GoDawgs> that's extremely cool!
[05:11] <angasule> Snake__: sounds like the mac .apps
[05:11] <Snake__> GoDawgs: wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O -|sh that installs the program
[05:11] <GoDawgs> i was using openSuSE before and never knew i had it
[05:11] <GoDawgs> ok one sec
[05:12] <GoDawgs> ok it looks like it's installed... let me see how it works ... brb
[05:13] <Steven_M> is there an xhost expert in here?
[05:13] <Snake__> Not me :(
[05:13] <GoDawgs> Snake__: wget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O -|sh
[05:13] <GoDawgs> oops
[05:13] <GoDawgs> Snake__: Please install ar in order to use klik.
[05:13] <GoDawgs> what's that mean?
[05:13] <Snake__> GoDawgs: sudo apt-get install rpm
[05:13] <angasule> GoDawgs: you must install 'ar'
[05:14] <GoDawgs> rpm?
[05:14] <Psi-Jack> Yeak.
[05:14] <Snake__> I think
[05:14] <angasule> GoDawgs: it's odd that you don't have ar, actually, I have it
[05:14] <GoDawgs> i thought we used .deb packaghes
[05:14] <GoDawgs> pkgs
[05:14] <Snake__> NO
[05:14] <Snake__> WAUT
[05:14] <Snake__> WAIT
[05:14] <Snake__> GoDawgs: sudo apt-get install binutils
[05:14] <GoDawgs> ok
[05:14] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: I was about to say. Klik depends on rpm?
[05:14] <Snake__> that will fix it
[05:14] <Snake__> :)
[05:14] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: sometimes
[05:14] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: some of it is RPM, but you only do that when you get the "Please install rpm2cpio in order to use klik" error
[05:15] <Psi-Jack> Heh. hmm.
[05:15] <Psi-Jack> That's no good. No good at all.
[05:15] <GoDawgs> it's weird i always have to insert the CD now... the Dapper CD
[05:15] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: why?
[05:16] <GoDawgs> Snake__: you mean this "sudo apt-get install binutils"
[05:16] <GoDawgs> damn it
[05:16] <GoDawgs> Snake__: Please install rpm2cpio in order to use klik.
[05:16] <angasule> http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/  <-- klik article or something
[05:16] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: They take care of all dependencys before you download the file, then it all gets rolled up into one neat little file that goes on your desktop :)
[05:16] <GoDawgs> so in other words I can't use that?
[05:16] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: does it say that now?
[05:16] <Snake__> ugh
[05:16] <Snake__> GoDawgs: does it say that now?
[05:16] <GoDawgs> Snake__: yeppers
[05:16] <Snake__> GoDawgs: sudo apt-get install rpm
[05:16] <GoDawgs> so it's an rpm pkg that i can't use ... right?
[05:16] <GoDawgs> do I really... REALLY want to install RPM?
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> that makes you read rpms
[05:17] <GoDawgs> so it won't harm my system right?
[05:17] <Snake__> GoDawgs: its not an RPM
[05:17] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: I Yeah.. I know what klik is. Never used it myself. Don't actually see the usefulness in it.
[05:17] <Snake__> GoDawgs: its a special file called .cmg
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> .cmg?
[05:17] <GoDawgs> ok... i'll give it a shot
[05:17] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: its good if you dont want to complie and its not in the repos
[05:17] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: yes, its a single file that contains all the files needed to run the program
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> Snake__: hmm
[05:18] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: remove the one file, the program is gone. That allows you to put it on USB sticks and run from ther eetc
[05:18] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: If it's not in the repos, then I don't mind compiling, prefixing to /opt somewhere, out of the way and thus, easily de-installable.
[05:18] <GoDawgs> this is CRAZY
[05:18] <Snake__> GoDawgs: whats up now
[05:18] <GoDawgs> please install this... please install that!
[05:18] <GoDawgs> geez
[05:18] <Snake__> GoDawgs: what are you missing now??
[05:18] <GoDawgs> Please install libstdc++5.so in order to use klik. The installation will continue, but the resulting cmg files will be larger than neccessary.
[05:18] <GoDawgs> LOL
[05:18] <Snake__> Wow.......
[05:18] <GoDawgs> this is comedic
[05:18] <Snake__> lol
[05:18] <Snake__> I didnt get all that :)
[05:19] <Snake__> Probly because I have 15000/18000 repos tho
[05:19] <Snake__> hehehe
[05:19] <GoDawgs> apt-get libstdc++5?
[05:19] <GoDawgs> i don't have but maybe 10
[05:19] <GoDawgs> :)
[05:19] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: Or better, I make my own deb package. :)
[05:19] <GoDawgs> good lord
[05:19] <Snake__> GoDawgs: I dont think so....
[05:19] <GoDawgs> i don't know how :(
[05:19] <Snake__> !info libstdc++5
[05:19] <ubotu> libstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB
[05:19] <Snake__> Oh
[05:19] <Snake__> GoDawgs: go for it
[05:19] <Snake__> hehe
[05:20] <GoDawgs> ok... here goes nothing
[05:20] <Snake__> GoDawgs: trust me, its worth it ;)
[05:20] <GoDawgs> right now i'm getting invalid operation from shell
[05:21] <GoDawgs> hold on a sec
[05:21] <Snake__> GoDawgs: apt-get INSTALL libstdc++5
[05:21] <Snake__> ;)
[05:21] <angasule> hey, I need libcurl.so.2, but kubuntu has libcurl.so.3, I can't see how to install an older version (don't even know if there is one in the repos, actually)
[05:21] <GoDawgs> ohohohoh Install is the key
[05:21] <Snake__> :)
[05:21] <hatake_kakashi> angasule: get the source and recompile that
[05:21] <Snake__> !info libcurl.so.2
[05:22] <angasule> I was looking for a less ugly way, hatake_kakashi, since that'd require installing a bunch of other stuff
[05:22] <Psi-Jack> angasule: Why do you need an older version?
[05:23] <GoDawgs> kelley@kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install libcurl.so.2 - Reading package lists... Done - Building dependency tree... Done - E: Couldn't find package libcurl.so.2
[05:23] <angasule> Psi-Jack: closed source game
[05:23] <GoDawgs> i give up.
[05:23] <Snake__> GoDawgs: I told you not to do that..
[05:23] <Snake__> roflmao
[05:23] <GoDawgs> not to do what?
[05:23] <Snake__> PM
[05:23] <Psi-Jack> angasule: symlink libcurl.so.3 to libcurl.so.2
[05:23] <tinin> !dapper
[05:23] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[05:23] <angasule> Psi-Jack: that's not nice :P
[05:24] <Psi-Jack> angasule: If it works, it works, right?
[05:24] <GoDawgs> oh this is so fun...
[05:24] <GoDawgs> hehehehe
[05:26] <GoDawgs> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:26] <GoDawgs> that's for everyone's benefit
[05:26] <GoDawgs> it auto builds a source.list for ya'
[05:26] <GoDawgs> check it out
[05:27] <Psi-Jack> God...
[05:27] <Psi-Jack> Nevermind, then.
[05:27] <keqiuguang> y do mt open office keep hanging
[05:27] <keqiuguang> soeone help me
[05:27] <Psi-Jack> I was about to warn GoDawgs that that site, however, good, can be dangerous.
[05:27] <angasule> oh, well, it didn't complain too much until it asked for a certain libstd++
[05:27] <Psi-Jack> keqiuguang: In order to help yuou, you need to be more specific.
[05:28] <Psi-Jack> keqiuguang: Use of the English language, also helps. :)
[05:28] <keqiuguang> ok
[05:28] <keqiuguang> my office document
[05:29] <GoDawgs> sorry ya'll didn't mean to cut out on ya'
[05:29] <Nomad411> Using fluxbox, is kde still needed?
[05:29] <keqiuguang> it hangs everytime i use it
[05:29] <Psi-Jack> GoDawgs that that site, however, good, can be dangerous, the source-o-matic one.
[05:29] <Snake__> Nomad411: no
[05:29] <keqiuguang> help
[05:29] <GoDawgs> Psi-Jack: yes I know... that's why it stipulates "use at your own risk"
[05:29] <GoDawgs> :)
[05:29] <Nomad411> keqiuguang: just say what your problem is
[05:29] <Psi-Jack> keqiuguang: "it hangs," is not any more specific than "keep hanging". Be more specific.
[05:30] <GoDawgs> Psi-Jack: but thanks... seriously
[05:30] <keqiuguang> it hang
[05:30] <angasule> keqiuguang: open office hangs when you try to use it?
[05:30] <Psi-Jack> keqiuguang: Sorry. Can't help you.
[05:30] <Nomad411> Snake__: If I did remove the KDE stuff, what package woudl it be?  Last time I did, it removed almost all from the machine :)
[05:31] <keqiuguang> k
[05:31] <keqiuguang> nevermind
[05:31] <Snake__> Nomad411: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe kde? im not sure
[05:31] <Nomad411> lol
[05:31] <Nomad411> keqiuguang: If you start it from the oowriter from the command line, you may see error messages
[05:32] <Psi-Jack> Nomad411: If you uninstall libqt3-mt from the system, pretty much all of KDE libraries and software will go with it.
[05:33] <Psi-Jack> Among with anything else dependant on Qt, of course.
[05:33] <Nomad411> SO that means, koffice, kopete, etc.. all go?
[05:33] <Psi-Jack> Otherwise, you could just remove kdelibs.
[05:33] <Psi-Jack> Nomad411: Well, yes.
[05:33] <angasule> Psi-Jack: does adept uninstall all that depends on that package? or just breaks them?
[05:33] <Nomad411> I guess it,s not taking that much space anyway..
[05:33] <Psi-Jack> angasule: Adept follows dependancies.
[05:34] <angasule> very very nice
[05:34] <Psi-Jack> It's dpkg that will quickly break your system if you don't use it properly.
[05:34] <Psi-Jack> angasule: Ironically, That's not hard. :p
[05:35] <GoDawgs> Don't do that again!
[05:35] <GoDawgs> Positive thoughts... postive... :)
[05:35] <GoDawgs> positive even
[05:35] <Psi-Jack> It's actually MUCH easier to break a Gentoo system than it is any binrary-oriented distribution.
[05:35] <angasule> yes, but not anybody can break it as well as I did!
[05:35] <Psi-Jack> angasule: Yes, yes, they can. ;)
[05:36] <angasule> I didn't just make it non-functional, anyone can do that, I mutated it into something so hideous even microsoft wouldn't sell it
[05:36] <angasule> and SCO wouldn't sue it!
[05:37] <Psi-Jack> heh
[05:37] <Psi-Jack> angasule: Spill it. What did you do?
[05:37] <Psi-Jack> I'm curious. :)
[05:37] <angasule> I don't know, actually
[05:37] <angasule> it was a long process of small screw ups
[05:37] <Hysty> howdy all
[05:38] <angasule> I installed and uninstalled programs constantly, changed settings all over the place, recompiled some stuff with different flags, etc
[05:38] <angasule> hi Hysty
[05:38] <Psi-Jack> angasule: Okay. So basically what you're saying is. You don't know.
[05:38] <angasule> eventually it was like windows
[05:38] <Hysty> heh
[05:39] <angasule> well, sometimes I was trying to get something to compile but it'd be late so I'd sleep, and when I woke up I wouldn't remember what I had done the day before
[05:39] <Psi-Jack> The biggest problem with Gentoo, is their resolver in portage is like molasses. It's very immature and extremely basic.
[05:39] <Psi-Jack> I have explained this repeatedly to the Gentoo guys, and is why I now, refuse to use Gentoo.
[05:40] <Psi-Jack> I even made strategical suggestions on which ways to make improvements. All of them were shot down, quite literally within milliseconds of me mentioning them.
[05:41] <Hysty> their loss
[05:42] <Hysty> anyone here used Linux MultiMedia Studio?
[05:43] <angasule_> don't miss me any more!
[05:43] <Hysty> phew!
[05:47] <angasule_> hmm, I ate too much, it's almost 2am and I'm still not hungry enough for a midnight snack
[05:48] <Snake__> angasule_: thats a problem!
[05:49] <angasule_> yes, I can't go to bed without my midnight snack
[05:50] <Hysty> yay compiled my first package
[05:51] <rich0rd> it is not a belly until you can put a "Mass" of beer on it.
[05:51] <Snake__> Hey guys is dapper flight 4 out?
[05:51] <Hysty> it wasnt a few days ago
[05:52] <angasule_> hey, I have a belly for the first time in my life, let me enjoy it! :P besides, i don't drink alcohol, caffeine is my only drug
[05:52] <rich0rd> angasule: but with beer you get a belly in a shorter time
[05:53] <Hysty> trying to get rid of my belly
[05:53] <Hysty> i have 20 odd kilos to drop
[05:53] <Snake__> lol
[05:54] <rich0rd> billiards
[05:54] <Hysty> bench press that monitor!
[05:54] <rich0rd> drinking, smoking, sitting
[05:54] <Snake__> Hysty: I got a bench right next to me
[05:55] <Hysty> Snake__, well what are you waiting for, grab that monitor and move!
[05:55] <Hysty> ;)
[05:55] <angasule_> hmm, that's a good idea, my CRT is kinda heavy
[05:57] <angasule_> I was underweight until a short time ago
[05:59] <Snake__> Im pretty built myself
[05:59] <Snake__> ;)
[06:00] <angasule> I get bored too easily, I have a gym two blocks from home but I gave up after a month
[06:00] <Snake__> angasule: gotta change it up
[06:00] <angasule> I do pushups at home, but that's all
[06:00] <angasule> and I walk a lot
[06:01] <angasule> although summer is horrible for doing excercise
[06:01] <rich0rd> summer - where?
[06:01] <rich0rd> it's winter here
[06:01] <angasule> I'm in the other half of the world
[06:01] <rich0rd> damn
[06:02] <angasule> there are two halves, just like the sith
[06:02] <Snake__> angasule: me
[06:02] <Snake__> http://myspace-139.vo.llnwd.net/00378/93/13/378153139_l.jpg
[06:02] <Snake__> woot
[06:02] <rich0rd> the cold and the warm yedis?
[06:02] <angasule> who's the girl? she's good looking
[06:03] <Snake__> hehe im just playing :) thats a random pic I found haha
[06:03] <angasule> big screen! how many inches?
[06:03] <angasule> oh :P
[06:03] <Snake__> Hold on, I can get my real one, give me a sec
[06:04] <angasule> http://anduin.net/~angasule/xmas/  <-- real pics of me
[06:04] <GoDawgs> bye everyone... take good care and I'll talk with you soon
[06:04] <Snake__> angasule: there
[06:04] <Snake__> http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=20275409&imageID=382457884&Mytoken=D98B5D2A-1143-89EF-65701413F33FEFE930206634
[06:04] <angasule> good night, GoDawgs
[06:04] <Snake__> Ugh
[06:04] <Snake__> hold on
[06:04] <GoDawgs> angasule: night night :)
[06:04] <Snake__> angasule: http://myspace-884.vo.llnwd.net/00382/48/87/382457884_l.jpg
[06:04] <GoDawgs> me Snake__?
[06:04] <Snake__> naw, angasule
[06:04] <Snake__> cya GoDawgs
[06:04] <angasule> hahahaha
[06:04] <GoDawgs> ok c ya
[06:05] <angasule> who is the polite lady?
[06:05] <Snake__> angasule: you look like a freakin psycho killer
[06:05] <Snake__> My ex
[06:05] <angasule> thanks
[06:05] <Snake__> want more pics of her? hehe
[06:05] <angasule> I love blondes :P
[06:05] <Snake__> Same
[06:05] <Snake__> Im workin on another one atm
[06:05] <angasule> where are you from?
[06:06] <Snake__> Ohio
[06:06] <Snake__> Ohello
[06:06] <martman> i reconfigured xorg to allow higer resoltions. i see it in my config file but im still at 1024 and the disply system settings window doesnt list anything higher
[06:06] <martman> anyone have any idea anychance?
[06:06] <angasule> ah, I have no girls in sight, unfortunately, I got semi-dumped a couple of weeks ago
[06:06] <Snake__> sorry martman I dunno :(
[06:06] <angasule> martman: try #kde or #xorg I dunno
[06:07] <angasule> she was a lawyer and very religious, so it didn't have a future anyway
[06:07] <Snake__> angasule: heres who im goin for
[06:07] <Snake__> http://myspace-631.vo.llnwd.net/00500/13/62/500832631_m.jpg
[06:07] <Snake__> http://myspace-346.vo.llnwd.net/00500/64/33/500833346_l.jpg
[06:07] <angasule> very nice
[06:07] <Snake__> I thought so
[06:07] <angasule> she has a sister? :)
[06:08] <Snake__> Shes got a 5 y/o bro...if you happen to be a catholic priest...
[06:08] <unix_infidel> can anyone help me out here for some bloody reason cpufreq seems to change governors on its own after i plug in my ac adapter, or after i close the lid and such things like that.
[06:08] <Snake__> LOL
[06:08] <unix_infidel> what kinda program is acting like a bloody fool doing things i didnt ask it to do.
[06:08] <Snake__> DUDE GREAT NAME!
[06:08] <Snake__> unix_infidel: HAHAH
[06:08] <angasule> hahahahahaha Snake__, sorry, I'm not even religious
[06:09] <unix_infidel> eh?
[06:09] <Snake__> unix_infidel: Sorry I cant help with the issue tho :(
[06:09] <Snake__> unix_infidel: I was complimenting your name
[06:09] <unix_infidel> lol, brillian.
[06:09] <unix_infidel> t
[06:09] <angasule> I have no idea, sorry
[06:09] <Snake__> angasule: how old are you
[06:10] <angasule> 25
[06:10] <Snake__> Ah that sucks, I got a chick I could hook ya up with, but it might be illigal :-D
[06:10] <angasule> hahaha
[06:10] <angasule> here it's legal :P
[06:10] <angasule> I'm not in the states
[06:10] <Snake__> Ooo nice
[06:10] <Snake__> lol
[06:11] <angasule> anyway, I don't like dating younger girls, they get on my nerves
[06:11] <Snake__> angasule: http://myspace-606.vo.llnwd.net/00357/60/62/357122606_l.jpg
[06:11] <Snake__> Very mature ;) hehe
[06:11] <Snake__> but very religious as well....good luck......
[06:11] <angasule> nice pussy? :P
[06:11] <Snake__> Yessir! :) (were gonna get in trouble lol)
[06:11] <angasule> that's your ex, right?
[06:12] <rich0rd>  !kickban wuhu
[06:12] <ubotu> rich0rd: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:12] <rich0rd> harr
[06:12] <angasule> I was talking about the cat :P
[06:12] <Snake__> Hehe
[06:13] <angasule> actually, that looks like one of those expensive cats that are not retarded like the usual pet store cats, hmm, don't remember the name
[06:13] <Snake__> angasule: her cat gave birth to it
[06:13] <Snake__> actually 4 of em :)
[06:14] <Snake__> You can see 2 on the recliener
[06:15] <angasule> neat, I'm a cat person, in so far that I hate dogs and I respect cats (I don't like the smell of living entities, though)
[06:30] <Snake__> !adept
[06:30] <ubotu> [adept]  a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:33] <Smrts> How can I add things in /etc/init.d/ to start on boot?
[06:48] <Nomad411> !qemu
[06:48] <ubotu> I guess qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[07:08] <alcros> this is a longshot but, has anyone installed kubuntu on an HP Pavilion dv5000 successfully??
[07:11] <alcros> My new kubuntu installation hangs on "checking battery state", I've found many pointers but they all refer to nvidia cards, and I have an ATI
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> Interesting.
[07:13] <Psi-Jack> Someone goofed up on the KDE 3.5.1 porting for Breezy.
[07:13] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: why whats up
[07:13] <Psi-Jack> It's claiming browser identification of Kubuntu 6.04 Dapper. :}
[07:13] <Psi-Jack> For konq
[07:13] <Snake__> Hmm
[07:14] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: where
[07:14] <Psi-Jack> I've been using konq to hit my own site, trying to get this bloudy phpmyadmin package to actually use the config.inc.php like it's supposed to.
[07:14] <Psi-Jack> So, it's in my apachelogs./ :)
[07:14] <Snake__> Ahhhh neat :)
[07:15] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: I think its like that because 3.5.1 is goin into dapper
[07:15] <Psi-Jack> And, I, run Breezy. ;)
[07:15] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: It already is in Dapper. But, still.
[07:15] <Psi-Jack> Whoever backported it for breezy missed that one detail.
[07:15] <Snake__> Yea
[07:15] <Snake__> Well cant get everything can they?
[07:16] <Psi-Jack> heh
[07:16] <Psi-Jack> I do have some requests they should do for kubuntu-defaults, though, for konq. Enabling the platform and language in konq settings. ;}
[07:17] <inter> my dell 700m won't reboot after writing a suspend2 image to the hdd...manual reboot is required by the image is restored fine...anyone have a suggestion?
[07:19] <GullyFoyle> what pkg do i install to build x apps fom source? x-devel or something?
[07:19] <Snake__> GullyFoyle: whats it asking for
[07:19] <Snake__> x includes or what?
[07:20] <Hostile> does anyone have fglrx drivers working with X.Org 7.0 here?
[07:20] <GullyFoyle> X-includes
[07:20] <Snake__> !xincludes
[07:20] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[07:20] <Psi-Jack> Hostile: Running Dapper, I presume?
[07:20] <Hostile> Psi-Jack: yes
[07:20] <Hostile> I wanted to try out Xgl, but the fglrx on Xorg 7 have hit me like brick wall
[07:20] <Psi-Jack> Dapper, I won't run, till it's stable. ;}
[07:20] <Hostile> like a*
[07:21] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: do you know what the suggest packages are for qt headers and librarys?
[07:21] <Snake__> suggested*
[07:21] <Psi-Jack> Everyone's out trying to get this Xgl stuff. It's not all that great
[07:21] <Hostile> Psi-Jack: yeah if after a few days on the ubuntu forums no one gets a solution, I might reinstall and stay at breezy
[07:21] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev?
[07:21] <Hostile> Psi-Jack: I just wanted to give it a try, I live to experiment
[07:21] <Hostile> I have too much time on my hands
[07:22] <Psi-Jack> I live to have a usable system.
[07:22] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: I want to make a factoid in ubotu because that question has been brought up 2 times since ive been in here
[07:22] <Hostile> Psi-Jack: hehe
[07:22] <Hostile> My system is perfectly usable right now, Just no 3d accel
[07:22] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: Yeah, it's libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev
[07:22] <Hostile> not a huge deal for me
[07:23] <Snake__> ubotu: qtheaders is needed to complie some programs. You should get the following packages: libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-mt
[07:23] <ubotu> Snake__: okay
[07:23] <Snake__> !qtheaders
[07:23] <ubotu> from memory, qtheaders is needed to complie some programs. You should get the following packages: libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-mt
[07:23] <Snake__> Thank god
[07:23] <Snake__> lol
[07:23] <Psi-Jack> !Qt
[07:23] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[07:23] <Psi-Jack> Hmm..
[07:23] <Psi-Jack> !Psi-Jack
[07:23] <ubotu> Psi-Jack: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:23] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: DID YOU JUST CHANGE THAT!
[07:23] <Snake__> That was not there
[07:23] <Psi-Jack> Snake__: No.
[07:24] <Psi-Jack> It's been there. :p
[07:24] <Snake__> Dude I totally called that up earlier and it wasn't there!
[07:24] <Snake__> ubotu: forget qtheaders
[07:24] <ubotu> i forgot qtheaders, Snake__
[07:25] <Psi-Jack> !Psi-Jack
[07:25] <ubotu> from memory, psi-jack is A Kubuntunite, heavily into KDE and all against the Gnome generation.
[07:25] <Psi-Jack> There we go.
[07:26] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: will !qt fix this error
[07:26] <Snake__> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[07:26] <Psi-Jack> Should yes.
[07:26] <Snake__> Alright
[07:26] <GullyFoyle> !QT
[07:26] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[07:27] <Psi-Jack> Dangit.
[07:27] <Psi-Jack> Why the fsck isn't this phpmyadmin reading the /etc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php?
[07:28] <Snake__> Psi-Jack: well, knowing php, and the way it acts, your missing a bracket :P
[07:28] <Snake__> hehe
[07:28] <GullyFoyle> !KDE
[07:28] <ubotu> methinks kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:29] <Psi-Jack> There;s no apache errors. heh
[07:29] <unix_infidel> ummm, there's no .xinitrc how do i set the wm?
[07:30] <Snake__> unix_infidel: what do you mean?
[07:30] <Snake__> unix_infidel: Are you trying to change to gnome/fluxbox/insert manager here?
[07:30] <unix_infidel> lol, you kids and your gui.
[07:30] <unix_infidel> no i'm trying to find xinitrc to so i can startx from command line
[07:30] <Snake__> Ah :)
[07:30] <unix_infidel> but i think i found it :P
[07:31] <Snake__> unix_infidel: how long you been on nix?
[07:31] <unix_infidel> Snake__: why?
[07:32] <Snake__> unix_infidel: just curious, the way you say "You kids and your gui" hehe
[07:33] <unix_infidel> Snake__: b/c every time i ask a pertinent question that doesnt really require a gui, i get an answer that requires a gui.
[07:33] <unix_infidel> i'm just not a big fna, and i understand that's sorta the angle this distro takes.
[07:33] <unix_infidel> but if its gonna be meant for the human beings it has to be made for all kinds of users.
[07:33] <Hostile> unix_infidel: Oh my god, you just stated how I feel ALOT
[07:34] <unix_infidel> ok.
[07:34] <unix_infidel> ....
[07:34] <Hostile> haha
[07:34] <Hostile> I know where you're coming from unix_infidel
[07:34] <Snake__> unix_infidel: not many of you cli rippers left, now in days we like teh pretty pictures :)
[07:34] <Hostile> lol
[07:35] <Hostile> someone actually said 'cli' don't see that term used much anymore
[07:36] <Snake__> Hostile: I love terminal as much as the next guy, but seriously, my moniter can support more than fonts and monochromatic colors. why should I put up with it? lol
[07:36] <unix_infidel> Snake__: really, that's why most system admins use kde tools to manage all their services.
[07:37] <Hostile> I just find GUI's are beating around the bush, just doing the same thing with commands that you could do yourself in less time
[07:37] <unix_infidel> i wonder how many of you kiddos that like the pretty pictures get paid nearly enough to admire the pretty pictures as opposed to code them.
[07:37] <unix_infidel> iono, just an opinion.  nothing personal, dont expect yall to learn every which way, just the way i'm looking for :)
[07:37] <unix_infidel> brb.
[07:37] <Snake__> unix_infidel: very true, and I have nothing against running a full command enviroment with a server, but as most of the.......
[07:37] <Snake__> ugh.
[07:38] <Hostile> lol.
[07:38] <Snake__> users are home users...we dont think much about servers in ubuntu
[07:38] <Snake__> THere we go
[07:38] <Snake__> whatever
[07:38] <Snake__> lol
[07:38] <Hostile> If you want a server, use Debian
[07:38] <Hostile> ^_^
[07:38] <Snake__> Hostile: Red Hat for server
[07:38] <Snake__> imo
[07:39] <Hostile> UGH
[07:39] <Hostile> SICK
[07:39] <Hostile> REDHAT BLOWS
[07:39] <Hostile> lol
[07:39] <Snake__> lol
[07:39] <Hostile> I run a Redhat server
[07:39] <Hostile> it makes me hurt myself
[07:39] <Snake__> Haha
[07:40] <Snake__> Hostile: I run a w2k3 server..I know i know, im askin for it
[07:40] <Snake__> lol
[07:40] <Hostile> My home server runs gentoo (it's okay, but it's also causing global warming)
[07:40] <Snake__> But I plan to move it linux when im more familer with linux (i've only been on since novemeber)
[07:40] <[muttox] > wierd problem on kubuntu install, no root password and unable to su or sudo :S
[07:41] <Hostile> [muttox] : sudo passwd
[07:41] <Hostile> to set the root pass
[07:41] <[muttox] > cant sudo
[07:41] <Hostile> oh
[07:41] <Hostile> passwd?
[07:41] <[muttox] > lol yeah
[07:41] <[muttox] > it wouldnt give me a gui on startup so i havent gone through any setup wizard if any existed
[07:41] <Hostile> Hm.
[07:42] <Hostile> Dunno, Odd problem, Sorry I'm just too tired to think right now
[07:42] <Hostile> I'm just sitting around and bsing
[07:42] <[muttox] > so i edited my xorg conf, sudo worked then, got my monitor working now it doesnt :P
[07:42] <Snake__> and im goin to bed
[07:42] <Snake__> Night guys
[07:42] <Hostile> night Snake__
[07:42] <Snake__> Good luck [muttox] 
[07:42] <Snake__> cya Hostile
[07:42] <Hostile> later.
[08:21] <unix_infidel> can anyone tell me why flux fonts are different when i do start x as opposed to having kdm handle startfluxbox?
[08:21] <unix_infidel> fonts arent antialiased anymore and i'm getting totally different fonts in my gtk themes.
[08:22] <Hostile> Dude cuz teh kdm gui is teh pwn
[08:25] <unix_infidel> holy jebus.
[08:26] <Hostile> lol
[08:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there?
[08:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am trying to play a *.vob file in mplayer
[08:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's a 1.7 GB file but it plays only few seconds on a selection menu and then it terminates..
[08:27] <trooper00> i can't seem to get any sound out of gaim but nothing else is having a problem. is there a simple workaround? for example, what command could i run to play the sounds?
[08:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i choose the chapter? in the main screen i can't click :(
[08:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or better, if i click it doesn't happen anything
[08:51] <KaoticEvil> hey everyone :)
[08:51] <MeshGearFox> Haaaaa :D
[08:52] <KaoticEvil> anyone ever messed about with ndiswrapper?
[08:52] <MeshGearFox> Ah, just gonna shoot this out real quick, but how do I mount a swap partition? checked online, but it just says to, er, mount it and then do swapon on it.
[08:53] <EightiesK> hello
[08:53] <MeshGearFox> :D
[08:54] <EightiesK> I use Fedora Cores grub booter but i wanna erase my fc4 to install react os. how would i go about doing that so i can keep kubuntu and windows and now react os
[08:55] <MeshGearFox> Eighties: I don't know much about this, but I know there are Kubuntu/Ubuntu tutorials on installing XP AFTER kubuntu.
[08:55] <MeshGearFox> Which messes up GRUB somehow, and, like, knocks Linux out of it, or just stops it from running and boots to windows by default.
[08:55] <EightiesK> !grub
[08:55] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:56] <MeshGearFox> Anyway, if you haven't checked those, I THINK the same principles should apply.
[08:56] <MeshGearFox> !swap
[08:56] <ubotu> well, swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[08:59] <KaoticEvil> how easy (or difficult) is it to compile a new kernel under kubuntu (breezy)?
[08:59] <KaoticEvil> is it any more difficult than under any other distro? and can i simply go to kernel.org and get the latest and go from there?
[09:02] <trooper00> KatoicEvil: use the debian method for compiling your kernel (make-kpkg, etc). shoud be some howtos listed in google
[09:02] <KaoticEvil> hmmmm... ok
[09:03] <trooper00> KaoticEvil: : use the debian method for compiling your kernel (make-kpkg, etc). shoud be some howtos listed in google.. but yeah, you could just get the latest kernel and compile it as you would on any distro
[09:03] <KaoticEvil> trooper00> the reason i ask, is my wireless card requires ndiswrapper to run under linux...
[09:05] <trooper00> KaoticEvil: shouldn't matter if you are using the same configuration. get the latest source.. use the configuration you find in /boot, tweak with care.. but when its time to compile, use make-kpkg and a deb file will be created for you.
[09:05] <KaoticEvil> ok, wool
[09:05] <KaoticEvil> cool even
[09:08] <KaoticEvil> ok, well thanks trooper00 :)
[09:09] <MeshGearFox> Hahah. I typoed and made a sawp file.
[09:09] <MeshGearFox> I suck at the linux >:D
[09:11] <DevGet> http://pastebin.se/2312 <- why?
[09:11] <yello> hey does anyone know how to run mp3s on linux ?
[09:12] <yello> anyone? lol
[09:12] <KillerKiwi2005> yello: try automatax
[09:12] <trooper00> i think you need to apt-get istall libmad0
[09:12] <yello> thanks
[09:12] <yello> :D
[09:13] <trooper00> lots of typos tonight
[09:13] <yello> where would i get that
[09:14] <KillerKiwi2005> for the lazy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[09:14] <yello> thanks :D
[09:22] <yello> hi im really sorry im a real noob i was just wondering i came up with an error about "configuring zenity"
[09:22] <yello> what does that mean?
[09:25] <KillerKiwi2005> yello: did you follow the kubuntu directions? or the ubuntu?
[09:27] <yello> the kubuntu ones
[09:28] <yello> i almost did the ubuntu one (cos i thought ubuntu and kubuntu were the same)
[09:28] <KillerKiwi2005> so you've installed zenity?
[09:28] <yello> but i didnt
[09:28] <KillerKiwi2005> wget http://kambing.vlsm.org/ubuntu/pool/main/z/zenity/zenity_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:28] <KillerKiwi2005> sudo dpkg -i zenity_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:28] <yello> hmm i must have
[09:28] <yello> yea i did the wget
[09:29] <KillerKiwi2005> and the sudo command?
[09:29] <yello> nope
[09:29] <yello> i didnt do that one
[09:29] <KillerKiwi2005> you need to do every line
[09:29] <yello> ok
[09:29] <yello> so how do i uninstall zenity?
[09:29] <KillerKiwi2005> wget does not install it just downloadws a file
[09:30] <yello> ah ok
[09:30] <KillerKiwi2005> just start the commands again
[09:30] <yello> im retrying
[09:31] <yello> i just pmd u the output
[09:31] <yello> but i dont think it worked
[09:31] <yello> [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[09:31] <yello> how can i send u the output?
[09:32] <KillerKiwi2005> use http://pastebin.com/
[09:34] <yello> http://pastebin.com/562386
[09:35] <yello> i tried the last command twice
[09:35] <trooper00> if all you want is to play an mp3, i think all you need is the libmad0 package
[09:36] <yello> ok
[09:36] <yello> sudo apt-get install libmad0 ?
[09:36] <trooper00> yup
[09:37] <trooper00> !repos
[09:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:37] <yello> http://pastebin.com/562387
[09:37] <yello> i already did that i opened them all
[09:39] <yello> ok im installing using adept
[09:39] <yello> damn it froze
[09:39] <yello> how do u unfreeze/force quit in linux
[09:39] <trooper00> telling you. all you need is libmad0 to play mp3s. heh
[09:39] <yello> yea im about to download
[09:39] <yello> but adept froze on em
[09:40] <yello> *me
[09:41] <yello> thanks
[09:41] <yello> its all working
[09:41] <yello> libmad0
[09:41] <yello> thanku so much
[09:48] <yello> hey all does anyone know how to use custom system icons for example the ricebowl icon set on kde look
[09:54] <_david> hey, I heard that the kubuntu dapper install is from a livecd, do you why there is for the alpaha (flight 4) release still an install and livecd version for download?
[09:57] <alcros> Hi, I just installed kubuntu but when it starts leaves me at the getty, no graphical login nor kde
[09:57] <alcros> any ideas?
[09:59] <jewstercollies> did you so a server install
[09:59] <DeLeon> hello
[09:59] <alcros> no
[10:00] <alcros> I installed normally
[10:00] <jewstercollies> can you startx
[10:00] <alcros> no,
[10:00] <alcros> I installed the fglrx driver for the ATI video card
[10:00] <OculusAquilae> hi
[10:01] <OculusAquilae> does anobody know how to get the Output of "startkde"?
[10:01] <alcros> but 'ati' or 'fglrx' fail to load
[10:03] <alcros> startx gives me the following message: fatal server error: Module load failure
[10:05] <DeLeon> does someone knows any undernet server name?
[10:05] <_david> alcros: try modprobe fglrx
[10:05] <jewstercollies> what ati card
[10:06] <haakonn> hi, how to upgrade to kde 3.5.1? i've put ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu in my sources.list, but there only seems to be 3.5.0 packages there
[10:07] <alcros> no, it didn't work, it is an ati radeon 200M
[10:08] <alcros> but fglrx is loaded according to lsmod
[10:08] <haakonn> in fact all the mirrors linked to from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php seems to only have 3.5.0 packages, judging from the file names
[10:21] <DHGE> haakonn: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351/ breezy main
[10:21] <haakonn> DHGE:  ah, 3.5.1 filenames, finally :) though i usually try to avoid using "main" sites
[10:22] <DHGE> put up a mirror ;-)
[10:23] <haakonn> naah :)
[10:23] <haakonn> kubuntu.org is damn fast anyway
[10:23] <haakonn> in fact i didn't know my dsl could pull that much
[11:10] <VincentMX> hi
[11:20] <Otis> hi people .... I've installed w32codecs and KMPlayer ... when I click on a WMV that's on my HD, KMPlayer starts ok but it says "Player mplayer Not Running" .... any ideas what's wrong ?
[11:20] <Otis> (I've tried a lot of howtos found on various forums)
[11:20] <hugelmopf> Otis: have you tried playing it directly in mplayer?
[11:22] <Otis> hm, good point ... let me see
[11:22] <Otis> hehe .... ok, looks like I just haven't got mplayer ... sorry, I'm thick
[11:23] <Otis> (all the howtos just said install w32codecs and a couple more things "et voila" but no)
[11:24] <Otis> hugelmopf: it doesn't appear in Synaptic ... do I need to add a source to my sources.list file ?
[11:24] <hugelmopf> Otis: one second, let me check. (where did you get kmplayer from?)
[11:24] <Otis> hugelmopf: or do I need to go and find a deb package somewhere to install it ?
[11:24] <Otis> let me check
[11:25] <Otis> http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1ui63/debs/kmplayer.0.9.1a.tar.gz
[11:25] <Otis> some random dude basically :-)
[11:26] <hugelmopf> Otis: mplayer-586 is in multiverse
[11:26] <Otis> aha ... I guess I don't have multiverse enabled in my sources.list (would have sworn)
[11:26] <Otis> me go see
[11:27] <Otis> I guess it would have been clever to check this out first : http://kmplayer.kde.org
[11:27] <Otis> tee-hee
[11:30] <Otis> I don't see mplayer-586* in Synaptic .... isn't this URL enough to see "multiverse" deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:30] <Otis> ?
[11:30] <hugelmopf> Otis: no, this is only multiverse component of "breezy-backports". you will also need it for "breezy" itself
[11:31] <Otis> ah ok (still figuring out the sources thing) ... can you recommend a URL ?
[11:31] <Otis> or do I just need to add a slightly modified version of that URL ?
[11:31] <hugelmopf> deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[11:31] <hugelmopf> this is what your breezy line should look like if you are from the netherlands
[11:31] <Otis> hugelmopf: ok, I'll do that, thanks
[11:32] <hugelmopf> Otis: don't replace the breezy-backports line with this, but the breezy line!
[11:33] <Otis> yep
[11:33] <hugelmopf> Otis: btw... http://archive.czessi.net has fairly trustworthy breezy packages for kmplayer
[11:34] <hugelmopf> and more kde multimedia stuff.  apt line:  "deb http://archive.czessi.net breezy stable stable-updates"
[11:37] <Otis> hugelmopf: I'm having trouble building a satisfactory URL for the sources.list file ... trial-and-error
[11:37] <Otis> I'll stick your last one in there
[11:38] <hugelmopf> Otis: there is not only one URL, but you can place arbitrarily many sources in there.
[11:38] <hugelmopf> Otis: have you read the wiki page about that?
[11:38] <Otis> oh, I need some key
[11:38] <Otis> I'll go check ... the wiki ? which wiki ?
[11:39] <hugelmopf> !sources
[11:39] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:39] <Otis> I'm guessing I should browse to that url
[11:39] <hugelmopf> look at ubotus information
[11:39] <Otis> I'm familiar with "how to add sources" I'm doing that right now ... it's a matter of getting the right URLs
[11:39] <hugelmopf> !easysource
[11:39] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:40] <Otis> ah, that looks good
[11:40] <Otis> oh neat !
[11:41] <hugelmopf> about czessi.net (which is not included in the source-o-matic), look at http://www.czessi.net/apt.php?i18n=de
[11:42] <hugelmopf> err, sorry, that was the german version.
[11:46] <Otis> frustration slowly growing here.... synaptic throws loads of errors on archive.czessi.net URLs
[11:47] <Otis> I'll try something else
[11:47] <Otis> made with source-o-matic
[11:47] <hugelmopf> you don't have to use it, especially not if you find everything you need in the official repositories
[11:48] <hugelmopf> but are the "frustrating" (errhmmm) errors probably just warnings about the missing gpg key?
[11:49] <Otis> I forget the details, I'll paste some stuff if I run into it with the other URLs I'm trying out
[11:50] <Otis> Couldn't stat source package list ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy/main Packages
[11:51] <Otis> still no mplayer *grrrr*
[11:51] <Otis> that's the error I was getting with the czessi link too
[11:51] <hugelmopf> did you update?
[11:51] <Otis> duh ... last time yes, not this time ...
[11:52] <Otis> insane ... still no joy ... I must be missing something (I *did* do the gpg commands to insert the keys)
[11:53] <Otis> ok, I'll give the czessi links another try
[11:53] <hugelmopf> if you are not afraid of the command line, your best bet is to do a "sudo apt-get update" there
[11:53] <hugelmopf> and if errors appear, paste them in the pastebin
[11:53] <hugelmopf> including your sources.list
[11:54] <Otis> hugelmopf: no, not afraid ... just tend to use a GUI where available ... brb with the results
[11:54] <hugelmopf> Otis: i know. GUI's are fine, just for support via IRC sometimes a bit difficult.
[11:57] <Otis> hugelmopf: wow, this is starting to get silly .... got the keys installed for czessi ... still no mplayer
[11:57] <Otis> I'll try an apt-get mplayer from cmd line
[11:58] <hugelmopf> Otis: if you need help, paste your sources.list, output of "sudo apt-get update" and output of "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" in kubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:58] <Otis> ok, shall do ... you're a star
[11:59] <Otis> hang on .... I should have "multiverse" on the end of the czessi line
[11:59] <Otis> I'll add that now
[11:59] <hugelmopf> no
[12:00] <hugelmopf> deb http://archive.czessi.net breezy stable stable-updates
[12:01] <hugelmopf> this line means: binary debs of the "stable" and "stable-updates" components of czessi's repository for release "breezy" can be found at http://archive.czessi.net
[12:01] <Otis> ah ok
[12:04] <Otis> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/562479
[12:04] <Otis> please ?
[12:04] <Otis> I just need to do the 2nd command above
[12:04] <hugelmopf> this looks fine
[12:05] <hugelmopf> now you can try to install mplayer-586 and kmplayer
[12:05] <hugelmopf> "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586"
[12:05] <hugelmopf> sorry
[12:06] <hugelmopf> i overlooked one thing. you still don't have multiverse for breezy activated.
[12:06] <hugelmopf> did you paste your sources.list ?
[12:06] <Otis> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/562482
[12:06] <Otis> er no, let me do that
[12:07] <Otis> maybe it's good to know that I got kmplayer from some website somewhere
[12:07] <hugelmopf> don't worry about kmplayer yet.
[12:07] <Otis> maybe that's what's causing the problem
[12:07] <hugelmopf> no
[12:07] <hugelmopf> i know what your problem is, i just need your sources.list to fix it
[12:07] <Otis> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/562485
[12:08] <Otis> here you go
[12:08] <Otis> hugelmopf: I figured I was missing the multiverse bit ! :-)
[12:08] <Otis> I tried to add it myself but with no joy ... not sure how to build a source URL from scratch
[12:08] <Otis> and browsing czessi doesn't exactly inspire
[12:09] <Otis> ;-)
[12:09] <hugelmopf> one sec
[12:10] <hugelmopf> make these two changes, then do a "sudo apt-get update" and it should work: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/562487
[12:11] <hugelmopf> the explanation: before, you only had multiverse activated for the breezy-backports repository (which is only supplementary to breezy), not for the breezy repository itself.
[12:12] <Otis> yay
[12:12] <Otis> that was it
[12:12] <Otis> no need for czessi or other stuff ... just needed adding the multiverse to my existing lines ... THANKS !
[12:13] <hugelmopf> Otis: correct. but if you want a repository, where you can get kmplayer (and updates for it), you need czessi
[12:13] <Otis> oh ok
[12:13] <Otis> ahem ... E: I wasn't able to locate file for the liblame0 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[12:14] <Otis> I guess I have to put the czessi link back in to sources.list, right ?
[12:14] <hugelmopf> no. when did this error happen?
[12:15] <Otis> I did a reload in Synaptic, searched for mplayer, saw the good packages (yay!) and marked for install ...
[12:15] <Otis> while it's installing it's selected a whole bunch of dependants ... and then that error
[12:16] <hugelmopf> can you do "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" and paste its output?
[12:16] <Otis> yup
[12:18] <Otis> WOW, it worked this time
[12:18] <Otis> *ergh* ?????
[12:18] <Otis> ah well, not complaining ;-)
[12:18] <hugelmopf> maybe you had some strange selections saved in synaptic
[12:18] <Otis> sooooo ... let's see if it works now !
[12:18] <Otis> always possible I guess
[12:19] <Otis> hehe, it starts !
[12:20] <hugelmopf> Otis: kmplayer or mplayer?
[12:21] <Otis> mplayer
[12:21] <Otis> now for kmplayer
[12:22] <hugelmopf> try it with the one you have already installed
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> hey! where i can warn about my country's name is mispelled? http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> see: hungry:)
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> not hungary:)
[12:25] <Otis> hugelmopf: ah, well .... KMplayer tells me "Player mplayer Buffering" ... but it doesn't play
[12:25] <hugelmopf> maybe it needs a second for buffering
[12:25] <hugelmopf> or is it local?
[12:25] <Otis> hugelmopf: I got to go for a while ... thanks for all the help so far
[12:25] <Otis> hugelmopf: local file
[12:25] <Otis> already played nicely from mplayer .... I guess I have to configure KMplayer properly
[12:25] <hugelmopf> yep... good luck
[12:25] <Otis> cheers
[12:27] <Otis> hugelmopf: WEIRD ! KMPlayer has started showing the vid !
[12:28] <Otis> it just seems to take forever to start playing back
[12:28] <hugelmopf> and does it play ok?
[12:28] <Otis> I'm going to uninstall this KMplayer (doubtful origin) and see if czessi has a more reliable one
[12:28] <hugelmopf> yes, sounds like a plan.
[12:29] <Otis> hugelmopf: well it looked ok for the 10s I let it play
[12:29] <Otis> ok, MUST have lunch with wife and baby :-)
[12:29] <hugelmopf> maybe the wmv is not the file, but only a link to a URL?
[12:29] <hugelmopf> ok
[12:29] <Otis> talk later and thanks a lot
[12:29] <hugelmopf> laters
[12:29] <Otis> (no, got a 4 MB file there on the HD)
[12:29] <Otis> cheers
[12:29] <Otis> l8r
[12:31] <libra> hallo
[12:39] <_tim> hi everyone
[12:40] <dingo> hi
[12:40] <_tim> does anyone know anything about thumb drives and kubuntu iv been searching on google for info cos i always get this error - An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:
[12:41] <_tim> lol dingo are u dingo_aus :D
[12:41] <dingo> :D
[12:41] <dingo> tim are you sailing the bluesea of adventure?
[12:42] <_tim> thats me :D
[12:42] <dingo> so what is the prob with your thumb (drive)
[12:42] <_tim> ill talk on kopete one sec :D
[12:42] <_tim> r u on?
[12:43] <dingo> yup
[12:53] <digitaldeath> hey all
[12:59] <_tim> hi
[01:01] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:11] <Otis> hugelmopf: hi it's me again !
[01:11] <Otis> mplayer works fine ... kmplayer doesn't seem to work though .... there are errors in its console ... would you have a minute to check it out ?
[01:14] <Otis> hehe, google has some good hits on that
[01:15] <ulaas> hello i have a dapper issue with kde-print. should i shoot here or ubuntu-devel
[01:22] <Otis> fleh ... giving up on kmplayer for today
[02:26] <matt_> :(
[02:33] <fjellrev1> I was on the verge of crasping tv-out with my nvidia card,when I booted up it showed everything clearly on my tv,when x started it went crazy. Anyone able to help me?
[02:39] <simone> hi guy!
[02:39] <simone> someone can help me? I want to change my default soundcard
[02:40] <simone> how do I do?
[02:42] <dst20> bonjour a tous
[02:43] <dst20> je cherche a installer une clef usb wifi pour ubuntu
[02:46] <Cainus> anyone know if there's a way to turn off the wacky firewall stuff?
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> Cainus: what do you mean?
[02:50] <Cainus> incoming ports are being blocked somehow
[02:51] <Cainus> messing with iptables is getting annoying since I have a firewall between this computer and the internet already
[02:53] <Cainus> so I'd like to turn off whatever firewall is running (i assume there is, since incoming ports appear to be blocked)
[03:05] <tbenita> hi, how can I net-install kubuntu ?
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik you cant
[03:09] <Tm_T> you can
[03:09] <Tm_T> using debian netinstall discs
[03:09] <Tm_T> with little tweak
[03:11] <tbenita> Tm_T, is there some doc on that ?
[03:11] <tbenita> Tm_T, is it just reconfiguring the sources.list ?
[03:12] <Tm_T> I think so
[03:12] <Tm_T> no idea about docs
[03:14] <Cainus> soo... anyone know how to turn off the firewall stuff?
[03:16] <Rodni> Is it possible to back up my data to a network computer using the command line? My GUI crashed and I can only enter in recovery.
[03:16] <tbenita> ok thx Kamping_Kaiser Tm_T
[03:18] <mnoir> where is the setting to start an app on a specific desktop - i seem to have lost it!
[03:19] <tbenita> Rodni, you can do an archive using tar (tar cvfz myarchive.tgz /home for example )  and copy the archive to whereever you want with ftp, scp or anything
[03:21] <Rodni> Sounds good, all I need to do is back up a single folder from home. The rest I have on a seperate hard disk.
[03:22] <Rodni> What command do I use to do that?
[03:22] <Kalidarn> hmm anyone tried to compile qualculate-kde? the a graphics calculator http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88877 says it compiles properly yet im not sure how and unfortunatly its only in the dapper repo.
[03:22] <Kalidarn> *qalculate-KDE
[03:23] <tbenita> Rodni, as root : "tar cvfz /tmp/home.tgz /home" and "scp /tmp/home.tgz 192.168.0.1:/tmp/" to copy it to the machine 192.168.0.1 via ssh
[03:25] <_tijn> hi all
[03:28] <Rodni> oh thanks
[03:29] <Rodni> I hope this works
[03:30] <Rodni> Wait! I have a folder in my home directory called 'Movies'. Can you tell me how to tar only that one and send it across the network/
[03:31] <Rodni> do I just replace 'home' with 'movies' folder?
[03:32] <mnoir> ~username/movies would work
[03:33] <Plouj> hi
[03:33] <mnoir> \/movies would not
[03:34] <Plouj> when I install root (/) on an LVM partition, shouldn't (k)ubuntu crate an initrd for me?
[03:34] <Plouj> I wasn't able to make LILO install on the ubuntu partition either, so
[03:34] <Plouj> I chose the no boot loader option
[03:34] <Plouj> and it told me to use these boot options for my other bootloader:
[03:35] <Plouj> kernel = /boot/vmlinuz, root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root, kernel args= root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[03:35] <Plouj> however, I don't think grub can actually read LVM volumes
[03:40] <Lacerta> Hi. I want to copy all data from my current HD to a new one. What's the best way to do that?
[03:44] <_tijn> how do i use the bot?
[03:45] <GeniusDex> i have grub installed on (hd0) (sda), and i want to boot winXP from (hd1,2) (hda3), but when i use the default windows lines in the grub config it just hangs after the 'boot' command
[03:48] <jarlath> After a few installation attempt, I have finally gotten kubuntu working near perfect. Put I never made a seperate partition for files (incase I need to reinstall). Can I shrink hda1 and add another partition? I read about something like partition magic for linux in a magazine a while back, but I dont recall what it was and what it did.
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS> Lacerta: mc
[03:49] <MetaMorfoziS> (midnight commander) apt-get install mc
[03:51] <mnoir> Lacerta: be careful -  if it is a disk containing an os, there are some directories that might not copy the way you want - like /dev and /proc
[03:52] <Lacerta> i just kinda want to move this crap to a faster HD
[03:57] <tafsen> Can you change the information on mp3's trough amaroK?
[03:58] <_alex> a program to record video on kde ?
[03:58] <_tijn> if i recall correct.. nope
[03:59] <_tijn> tafsen: i think it gets is info from the dj music db... not sure
[03:59] <tafsen> _tijn: the meta-tag?
[04:01] <_tijn> tafsen: dunno
[04:03] <_tijn> tafsen: is you right click, you can change the meta info
[04:04] <Nomad411> Woudl anyone know the name of that sofware that show you a ton of streaming radios to pick from?  It had a green play button as the icon for it..
[04:04] <_tijn> tafsen: right click -> properties -> meta-info
[04:04] <GeniusDex> live365?
[04:05] <Nomad411> those are a category in it.,.  Somwthing stream I think ..  Oh!!  streamtuner ?
[04:05] <Nomad411> yes!
[04:05] <Nomad411> I just needed to type it outloud.. lol
[04:05] <_tijn> hehe
[04:05] <_tijn> btw, where do i get libdvdcss2?
[04:06] <hugelmopf> !libdvdcss2
[04:06] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[04:07] <_tijn> thnx!
[04:07] <_tijn> to use bot-commands, do i need to be registered?
[04:07] <tafsen> _tijn: right click > edit track info ?
[04:08] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: you still looking for an answer? if the new HD is bigger then the old one, you want to use "dd"
[04:08] <Lacerta> a lot bigger
[04:09] <Lacerta> i'm copying the files now with mc
[04:09] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: that won't help if it is a system disk
[04:09] <Lacerta> k..?
[04:09] <Nomad411> one last question: in kde, if a window extends outside of the window where we can,t grab teh title bar, we can use ALT-drag to grab it from any area.  Is there a similar thing in fluxbox?
[04:09] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: as mnoir pointed out, there are some directories which need special treatment. it might be easier to make a bit-by-bit copy with dd
[04:10] <Lacerta> umm.. is it very complicated command?
[04:10] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: then you only need to reinstall the master boot record (in case it is your primary disk), and everything should work exactly as the old one.
[04:10] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: the dd command is not very difficult
[04:11] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: but it would be best to use it from a knoppix cd, so that the disk you want to copy is not in use. is it your primary (system) disk?
[04:11] <_alex> a program to record video of my desktop?
[04:12] <Lacerta> hugelmopf: yes this is my primary disk
[04:12] <hugelmopf> _alex: what about searching? http://www.google.de/linux?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=record+desktop+video&btnG=Suche&meta=
[04:13] <_alex> i want to make a video of my desktop
[04:14] <hugelmopf> _alex: yes, and i presented you a straightforward search with google yielding the results you are looking for?
[04:14] <mnoir> Lacerta: be careful -  if it is a disk containing an os, there are some directories that might not copy the way you want - like /dev and /proc
[04:14] <mnoir> sorry
[04:14] <mnoir> fatfinger!
[04:14] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: do you know knoppix?
[04:14] <Lacerta> hugelmopf: you mean LiveCD?
[04:14] <_alex> no
[04:15] <mnoir> Lacerta: it is not technically elegant but you might consider reinstalling os on the bigger diak and copying only what you need - this is what often do
[04:15] <mnoir> what 'I' often do...
[04:15] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: knoppix is a live cd, but not the ubuntu LiveCD, you are probably referring to. but the ubuntu one should also work fine.
[04:16] <manveru> you cannot install the ubuntu-live-cd
[04:16] <hugelmopf> manveru: did you read our conversation?
[04:16] <manveru> no, just throwing in random pieces of memories
[04:19] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: it is not easy enough to do it in 5 minutes without knowing about hard drives, partitions, master boot record, grub.
[04:20] <Lacerta> I just don't want to have all the trouble again as i was tweaking the current system
[04:21] <Cainus> hey...can anyone give me a definitive list of repositories?  apt-get can't find java or azureus, and I've enabled every repository in the default file, and I've done an apt-get update
[04:22] <Snake__> Cainus: those arn't avalible in the repos
[04:22] <Snake__> Cainus: blackdown java is I think, but not sun
[04:22] <Cainus> do I need sun?
[04:22] <Snake__> Nope
[04:23] <Snake__> !java
[04:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:23] <Cainus> some ubuntu docs said apt-get install j2re1.4 would work
[04:23] <Snake__> Yes that would give you blackdown
[04:23] <Cainus> k... but it doesn't :)
[04:23] <Snake__> Cainus: try this
[04:23] <Snake__> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[04:23] <Cainus> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[04:23] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: i understand what you mean, and it is absolutely possible. first thing to do is making an exact copy bit by bit with the command "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb" where /dev/hda would be the hard drive you want to copy to /dev/hdb. but you want to do this from a LiveCD, so that /dev/hda does not change while you are copying it bit-by-bit
[04:24] <Snake__> odd....
[04:24] <Snake__> Cainus: you have your universe enabled?
[04:24] <Cainus> AFAIK
[04:24] <Cainus> lemme double-check
[04:25] <Snake__> Cainus: if you enabling through adept, DONT FORGET TO HIT APPLY BEFORE YOU CLOSE
[04:25] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: but you should read a good tutorial on dd somewhere on the net first.
[04:25] <Snake__> To many people arn't dong that :)
[04:25] <Snake__> *
[04:25] <Snake__> doing**
[04:27] <Cainus> Snake: what should the line look like that enables universe/multiverse?
[04:27] <Cainus> I've got every line enabled anyway :\
[04:27] <Snake__> Cainus: This is for you
[04:27] <Snake__> !sources
[04:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:27] <Lacerta> hugelmopf: i'm going to try that dd thing. thanks
[04:27] <hugelmopf> Lacerta: this here explains it a bit: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362506
[04:28] <Snake__> Cainus: Follow the first link, scroll alll the way down to where it says "kubuntu" and the adept instructions are
[04:28] <Cainus> Snake__: yeah I copied all those lines in too
[04:28] <Cainus> been to this page already
[04:28] <Snake__> alright
[04:28] <Snake__> and your sure you hit apply before you hit close?
[04:28] <Cainus> yeah
[04:29] <Cainus> can I just copy this page right into my sources file?
[04:29] <Cainus> adept kinda seems to get in the way a lot
[04:29] <Snake__> Type in apt-cache search blackdown
[04:30] <Cainus> returns with no output
[04:30] <Snake__> *smashes head on desk
[04:30] <Snake__> okay, heres what I want you to do
[04:30] <Snake__> type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then pastebin the list, and give me the link
[04:33] <marcus> hallo zusammen
[04:33] <marcus> hab mal ne frage,unter ubuntu wurden die verfgbaren updates automatisch angezeigt.ist das mit kubuntu auch mglich ?
[04:34] <skypa> I'm afraid english is the preferred language here :)
[04:34] <djib> does anyone knows a tool to defragment a fat disk under linux ?
[04:35] <Cainus> Snake__: http://pastebin.com/562749
[04:36] <djib> Cainus: do you really need the src in your sources ?
[04:36] <Snake__> Cainus: Clear that whole thing out, and just put this list un
[04:36] <Snake__> in*
[04:37] <Snake__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[04:37] <jarlath> My system froze just there and I had to pull the plug. I noticed on bootup that no "cleanup" was performed. Is there anything I need to do? Mandriva used to do something on bootup, like clean unused device nodes etc.
[04:37] <Cainus> djib: I was just adding stuff various docs were telling me, trying to get this to work... :\
[04:37] <Snake__> Heh thats what I thought
[04:38] <Snake__> Cainus: Backspace your whole list, and go to where I said, just use that 1
[04:40] <Cainus> ahhh
[04:41] <Cainus> works...
[04:41] <Cainus> finally :)
[04:41] <Cainus> thanks Snake__
[04:41] <Snake__> Did you find your package?
[04:41] <Cainus> yessir
[04:41] <Snake__> Yess
[04:41] <Snake__> :)
[04:41] <Snake__> Good job m8
[04:41] <Cainus> it's too bad sources.list could have these repositories by default
[04:41] <Snake__> Cainus: and azurus isn't in the repos im afraid
[04:41] <Cainus> er couldn't
[04:42] <Cainus> hmm it was in the debian repositories... are those different?
[04:42] <Snake__> Cainus: im sure they would do that, but since its all from outside sources, their protecting your system, and since it contains some files illigal in certain countrys, they are also saving themselves legal trouble
[04:42] <Snake__> Cainus: yes they diffrent
[04:42] <djib> does anyone knows a tool to defragment a fat disk under linux ?
[04:42] <Cainus> ahh okay
[04:43] <Cainus> on debian, I did apt-get install azureus and it even installed all the java crap I need :\
[04:43] <Cainus> but I can do a bit more typing as long as it works
[04:43] <tafsen> I've downloaded a demo version of the Game Northland. It's *.run file. How do I install it?
[04:43] <Snake__> Cainus: The magic of debs: all dependecys taken care of (java would be a dependency)
[04:43] <Snake__> Cainus: Just go to their site and download it, no complie is needed or anything like that
[04:44] <Cainus> yeah I was having probs with that bzipped version
[04:44] <Snake__> Why?
[04:44] <Cainus> well port problems
[04:44] <_qball> hello people! :-)
[04:45] <Snake__> Cainus: then thats A) with your router, or B) You need to open it in the settings
[04:45] <_qball> Anyone here in the mood to help a n00b with a quick question about mounting?
[04:45] <Snake__> Cainus: orr, if your using the default port, most ISPs now block that
[04:45] <Snake__> _qball: just ask
[04:45] <Snake__> if someone can help, they will
[04:46] <_qball> ok I used mount /dev/hda1 /media/partitionname -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 to mount a FAT32 drive but it wont let me copy a folder to the partition
[04:46] <Cainus> Snake__: I had all this running on the same box on debian just a few days ago... so I doubt it's my isp, and I'm good enough with the router to know I've got that right...
[04:46] <_qball> I also used umas=777 made no difference
[04:46] <_qball> cheers Snake_
[04:46] <Snake__> _qball: Hmmm I know your missing something...but I dont know what..
[04:46] <Snake__> like......ugh, let me think
[04:47] <Cainus> if I switch the port-frowarding to my windows box, azureus works fine from there
[04:47] <_qball> well thats directly from the Ubuntu guide
[04:47] <_qball> it mentions nothing about permissions though
[04:47] <Cainus> i'll figure it out sooner or later ;)
[04:47] <Snake__> Hehe
[04:49] <Massacration> hi everyone
[04:49] <Snake__> _qball: your fat partition is hda1 right?
[04:49] <Massacration> how do I update my KDE 3.5.0 to the 3.5.1
[04:49] <Massacration> ?
[04:49] <Snake__> !kde351
[04:49] <ubotu> Snake__: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:49] <Snake__> ughh
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> lol, its on the website :)
[04:50] <Snake__> Massacration: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[04:50] <_qball> bugger how do I copy something from the console?
[04:50] <_qball> mount /dev/hda8 /media/MP3Drive -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[04:50] <Massacration> I know but it didn work
[04:51] <_qball> thatst he command I used which just has the drive and mountpoint information changed
[04:51] <tecs>  anyone here who knows who owns a 720 c hp printer
[04:51] <Snake__> _qball: are you sure your mounting the right thing? are you sure its hda8?
[04:51] <_qball> ye
[04:51] <_qball> yes
[04:51] <_qball> the folders show up fine
[04:52] <Snake__> _qball: what error are you gettings
[04:52] <_qball> I just cant copy a folder into that partition/folder
[04:52] <Snake__> into what folder
[04:52] <neoncode> Hey is it possible to connect to a Kwallet on another computer - because I have serveral computers in my LAN and sometimes I want to connect to some internet site but I carn't because the password is in my Kwallet on my main computer.
[04:52] <_qball> Access denied
[04:52] <Snake__> _qball: what folder are you trying to copy them to
[04:52] <ejofee> what is the name of the config file for motif?
[04:53] <_qball> Im copying into /media/MP3Drive/
[04:53] <Snake__> okay....try to copy the file via the command line with sudo
[04:53] <_qball> ok.......... eh whats the command?
[04:53] <Snake__> The terminal
[04:53] <Snake__> Konsole
[04:53] <Snake__> The consol
[04:53] <Snake__> e
[04:53] <Snake__> CLI
[04:53] <_qball> k
[04:53] <Snake__> Many names :)
[04:55] <_qball>  whats the command for coyping?
[04:55] <_tijn> cp
[04:55] <_qball> ok
[04:56] <_qball> cp <source> <desintation> what do I need for all files/subfolders etc
[04:56] <Snake__> _qball: cp /orignal/file/here /where/your/moving/file/here
[04:56] <_qball> ok will try that
[04:57] <Snake__> _qball: hey man, I got to help a friend for a second. Sorry
[04:57] <Snake__> im sure someone could help
[04:57] <_qball> k
[04:57] <_qball> ok well it says ommiting the origional directory
[05:00] <_qball> whats the keyboard command to use when I hightlight something in the console and then want to copy that?
[05:00] <_qball> ctrl + C doesnt seem to wrok
[05:00] <_qball> work
[05:00] <visik7> just press central mouse button
[05:00] <visik7> and it'll paste
[05:00] <_qball> eh dont have one
[05:00] <Rodni> I couldnt work this out because it looked to complicated so I decided to reinstall kubuntu in order to back up my folder. What should I do in the partition screen not to delete my curent home folder?
[05:01] <visik7> _qball: press left and right simultaneously
[05:01] <_qball> k
[05:01] <_qball> cp -r /home/qball/MoboDrivers/ /media/MP3Drive/MoboDrivers/
[05:01] <_qball> ah there ye go that worked
[05:02] <_qball> Ok Cheers guys ye have been spectacular, I think Im going to play around with Konversation for a while see
[05:02] <Rodni> do I highlite the root partition and simply press enter/
[05:03] <dbakker> im a debian user who just went to breezy, how do I get to dapper?
[05:03] <visik7> dbakker: change breezy to dapper in sources.list and dist-upgrade
[05:04] <Pingjockey> dbakker: I am pretty sure you can just update your sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade to the new repos.
[05:04] <Pingjockey> dbakker: I have gone from testing to unstable that way before inside debian
[05:04] <PDD_IE>  ok very strange, how come I can't put the font color picker for Konversation on a lil menu or something that I can click rather than using keyboard shortcuts
[05:05] <dbakker> cool ill give it a shot, ty
[05:06] <PDD_IE> anybody got any ideas?
[05:06] <Pingjockey> With the release of dapper 4 I should be able to use apt to sync everything up to latest right?
[05:08] <Rodni> help me with partitions :(
[05:08] <ryanakca> hmmm.... if I install gimp 2.2.10 using the .debs from here: http://packages.debian.org/testing/graphics/gimp  , will it still work on Kubuntu breezy?
[05:08] <Pingjockey> Rodni: whats the issue
[05:09] <Rodni> Pingjockey my Kubuntu is kaput. I want to reinstall it but not lose the data in my home folder.
[05:09] <Rodni> Im currently at the partition screen on the installer
[05:09] <Pingjockey> Rodni: Where is your home folder located?
[05:09] <Rodni> on a seperate partition
[05:09] <Rodni> logical /media/hd6
[05:10] <Rodni> hda6 sorry
[05:11] <Pingjockey> well you can approach this from a few different ways.... do you have an external hard drive?
[05:11] <Rodni> no
[05:11] <Pingjockey> hmm...
[05:12] <Pingjockey> whats going to be your new partioning scheme?
[05:12] <Rodni> I want to keep it current and just make kubuntu work
[05:12] <_tijn> if its on a seperate partition
[05:12] <_tijn> its ok
[05:12] <ryanakca> rodni: My home folder is kinda small, so I just used knoppix, got the folder, tarballed it, and ftped it to my other box
[05:12] <Rodni> but Im not sure what options to select
[05:12] <_tijn> only manually edit the partition on which you want to install
[05:13] <Pingjockey> Thats what I was going to suggest next ryanakca good call
[05:13] <ryanakca> pingjockey: ty
[05:13] <ryanakca> hmmm.... if I install gimp 2.2.10 using the .debs from here: http://packages.debian.org/testing/graphics/gimp  , will it still work on Kubuntu/Ubuntu breezy?
[05:13] <Pingjockey> whats wrong with your current installation rodni... maybe we can recover it
[05:13] <_tijn> you van mount hda6 as /home
[05:13] <Rodni> well it shows me my current partitions, so do I just select the one which is root and press enter to install there only?
[05:14] <Pingjockey> ryanakca: not sure if you can mix like that
[05:14] <Rodni> It was a kernel error due to a broken installation
[05:14] <Rodni> I can access only recovery mode
[05:14] <ryanakca> Pingjockey: kk, thanks... I was hoping not to have to compile from source... when I compile things... I allwais tend to mess up my computer :)
[05:15] <Pingjockey> Rodni: ok, well what did you change.... did you try to compile a custom kernel or do you have new hardware...?
[05:16] <tecs> how about the updates in software updates is it adviceable to update?
[05:16] <Pingjockey> Rodni: sorry a broken installation..
[05:16] <Rodni> No, like I said I tried to install VLC and nvidia drivers and next thing I cant boot to kubuntu anymore
[05:16] <Rodni> Fatal Error of some kind in the mvcmr or something like that
[05:17] <Rodni> I think i remember it was line 48
[05:17] <Pingjockey> hmm.... never played with recovery mode.. does the network work in reocvery mode?
[05:17] <Rodni> but wont bet on it
[05:17] <Rodni> I dont know
[05:17] <Pingjockey> what about aptitude?
[05:17] <Rodni> I dont know network commands to transfer stuff out to other pc
[05:17] <Pingjockey> you can always uninstall the files using apt that broke the installation to start with
[05:18] <Rodni> sounds too much of a hassle for me, especially not knowing the command line.
[05:19] <Rodni> thats why I procceded with the kubuntu disk in order to somehow reinstall to its original state
[05:19] <Rodni> just not sure how do I make the home partition safe so it wont get erazed
[05:19] <Rodni> As soon as I get into kubuntu again Im happy.
[05:20] <Pingjockey> its easy.. boot into recovery mode and launch aptitude.... should be there.... its like synaptic but for the cli... but if you want to reinstall I would just make seperate parititons... and install / to one of those partions....
[05:21] <Pingjockey> yup just checked... aptitude is installed by default
[05:21] <Pingjockey> did you use synaptic to install nvidia-kernel?
[05:21] <Rodni> ok say I cancel this and go to aptitude. What does that do?
[05:21] <Rodni> I used the kubuntu packet manager
[05:22] <Rodni> Apget?
[05:22] <Rodni> Adet?
[05:22] <Pingjockey> it will bring you into a ncurses like verison of adpet or synapitc...
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> adept
[05:22] <Rodni> ah thats the one
[05:22] <Pingjockey> sorry typo... lack of coffee
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> synaptic is better than adept i think.
[05:22] <Pingjockey> I concur
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> synaptic can search in the descriptions etc..
[05:23] <Pingjockey> I like kpackage as well
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> and tell me what size of the all downloads before start ...
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i didn't try kpackage..
[05:23] <Rodni> so if I get into aptitude then use apt-get upgrade, my system should be up and running?
[05:24] <Pingjockey> anyway Rodni, just do a sudo aptitude and you remember what you installed before everything broke?
[05:24] <Rodni> haha no not really. I used a command I saw on IRC and that was it
[05:24] <Pingjockey> Rodni: you could just apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade as well
[05:25] <Rodni> thats the problem with beginners. We copy what we see here not from a manual in a book
[05:25] <Pingjockey> but we need to see what kernel got installed and such
[05:25] <Rodni> My kernel is .12
[05:25] <Pingjockey> ok
[05:25] <Rodni> well actually the default stuff from kubuntu
[05:26] <Rodni> Fine. Let me cancel this and I will give aptitude a go.
[05:26] <Pingjockey> Rodni: bear with me because I am just coming over from the gentoo world.. Been there for like 2 1/2 yrs...
[05:26] <Pingjockey> Debian stuff is new to me
[05:26] <Rodni> no problem
[05:26] <Rodni> can I ask why swapped from Gentoo? Most people try to go the other way aroound
[05:27] <Pingjockey> I finally got fed up with gentoo and crossed over to kubuntu
[05:27] <_tijn> gubuntu :P
[05:27] <Pingjockey> The people in there IRC channel pissed me off
[05:27] <dermitrius> had enough of building did we? :)
[05:27] <Pingjockey> I got a fast machine so building is not all that bad
[05:28] <Pingjockey> but when I asked about how to unmask and install kde 3.5.1 I was told to RTFM
[05:29] <Rodni> enough of reading too I guess. The whole gentoo is one big manual on its own
[05:29] <dermitrius> well i have used mandrake/madriva, RH, debian 3 and 3.1 and now im on ubuntu/kubuntu. i think i have found my home :)
[05:29] <Rodni> Im not doing well with kubuntu and to be honest very very disappointed.
[05:29] <Pingjockey> I was polite and said that I had and was unsure of how the command syntax in the package.unmask file... i was told again to go away
[05:29] <dermitrius> i'm using dapper release for desktop, using breezy for server
[05:30] <Rodni> I found so many issues like bugs and other stuff.
[05:30] <Pingjockey> Rodni: We will get ya through this... no worries pal
[05:30] <dermitrius> well its is debian testing/unstabe what do you expect
[05:30] <Pingjockey> Debian testing (well before etch) is relatively stable
[05:31] <dermitrius> if it wernt for ubuntu/kubuntu us debian users would be in the darkages :)
[05:31] <Pingjockey> I concur with that
[05:31] <Pingjockey> ok Rodni whats your ststus?
[05:32] <dermitrius> sometimes there is benifit to living on the near edge
[05:32] <dermitrius> i'm not quite ready to live on the nightly build edge :P
[05:32] <coollink> hi
[05:32] <Rodni> Im inside aptitude and overweclomed by a not so bad men
[05:32] <Pingjockey> Thats what I use to say about gentoo.. of course this is while I was on day 2 of an install
[05:32] <Rodni> menu
[05:33] <Rodni> so what exactly should I do, upgrade some packages/
[05:33] <Pingjockey> ok well go ahead and quit out of aptitude.. lets see if the nets up first
[05:33] <Rodni> k
[05:33] <Rodni> done
[05:33] <dermitrius> Rodni, before loading aptitude did you add universe and mulitverse to the apt sources list?
[05:33] <Rodni> type apt-get update now?
[05:33] <Pingjockey> ok sudo ifconfig and make sure that youe eth0 is up
[05:33] <Rodni> dermitrius I doubt it
[05:34] <coollink> Can someone help me? ive jsut instal kunbuntu 5.10 breezy on my satelite m70 sr600 laptop, but i think i have a video card probleme. I can go in desktop mode only console... perhaps my rez screen is to high or my video card is not suport? plz need help, im new onlinux
[05:34] <dermitrius> because some app are only available there, ok sry
[05:34] <Pingjockey> we can fix that in a sec
[05:34] <Rodni> I dont need to type sudo, Im already root :P
[05:34] <Pingjockey> kl
[05:34] <dermitrius> :)
[05:34] <dermitrius> coollink, what video does it have ati mobility?
[05:34] <Rodni> ok no ip's whatsoever
[05:35] <Rodni> even my router LED is not on
[05:35] <Pingjockey> ok, dhclient eth0
[05:35] <dikatlon> hello
[05:35] <coollink> i have ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 with 128MB DDR video memory.
[05:35] <Pingjockey> also do a lsmod and lets make sure the module loaded
[05:36] <Rodni> I typed lsmod and lots of stuff appeared.
[05:36] <Pingjockey> coolink: sounds like you need to get the ATI drivers.. I think its called fglrx or something
[05:36] <Pingjockey> what about dhclient.. that should have gotten a ip for ya
[05:36] <dikatlon> I have some problems with the kubuntu installation. When the dialog is looking for net devices..it hangs.
[05:37] <dermitrius> coolink indeed "apt-get install fglrxcontrol" that should get you somewhere
[05:37] <_tijn> dikatlon: press alt F3
[05:37] <_tijn> see what it says
[05:37] <dikatlon> It's when net/hw-detec.hotplug starts
[05:37] <dikatlon> _tijn: I done that
[05:37] <_tijn> iam afk cya all
[05:37] <_tijn> what did it say?
[05:37] <dermitrius> coolink you will need to be root
[05:37] <Rodni> hmmm it gives me some errors in the resolv.conf file but let me check if its up and running and then I will tell you the full errors
[05:37] <dikatlon> _tijn nothing really.
[05:38] <_tijn> wierd
[05:38] <_tijn> but iam off sry
[05:38] <dikatlon> _tijn: IT starts udev..
[05:38] <dikatlon> _tijn: ok :)
[05:38] <Rodni> actually yes I have ip address now
[05:38] <Rodni> and my LED is on
[05:38] <coollink> ok thanks, i will check that
[05:38] <Pingjockey> good, try apt-get update
[05:39] <Rodni> yep its cool !!!
[05:39] <Rodni> do upgrade now?
[05:39] <Pingjockey> yeah do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:39] <coollink> but his it possible to change the kde resolution from the command shell?
[05:39] <dermitrius> coollink did the fglrx package and dependicies install ok?
[05:39] <Rodni> When I type that it gives me 3 errors
[05:40] <Pingjockey> coolink: you could try to manual change your xorg.conf file.... but I would try to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... that may work as well
[05:40] <Rodni> :Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:40] <Pingjockey> what errors?
[05:40] <coollink> how can i instal this package?
[05:40] <Rodni> :Unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[05:40] <Pingjockey> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:40] <visik7> I've a kernel module  (provided with the kernel source) and I need to modify it to fit my needs but I don't want to recompile a new kernel is there a way ?
[05:40] <Rodni> :The package list or status file could not be parsed or opened
[05:41] <dermitrius> rodni, i thought you were root?
[05:41] <Rodni> Nah, I tried but sudo dosent make difference anymore
[05:41] <Rodni> I am root
[05:41] <Pingjockey> hmm then it should work fine
[05:41] <dermitrius> error in sources.list maybe?
[05:41] <Rodni> I messed it up bad :P And Im a linux user for about a week now lol
[05:42] <dermitrius> we have all been there :P
[05:42] <Pingjockey> yeah maybe... try nano -w /etc/apt/source.list and see whats commented out
[05:42] <Rodni> by the way if I try apt-get upgrade it gives me the same errors
[05:42] <Rodni> ok
[05:43] <Rodni> Im in source.list and its blank
[05:43] <Pingjockey> I have been a linux user for a while and well upon the advice of a friend I started with gentoo as my first distro... what a mistake that was...
[05:43] <Pingjockey> ok, that will do it....
[05:43] <Rodni> there is a lot of options I can choose
[05:44] <Pingjockey> sorry it should be sources.list
[05:44] <dermitrius> my first few distros were a nightmare to get somethings going
[05:44] <Pingjockey> typo
[05:44] <coollink> ive try to make the  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   but is sayd i must be as root, what that mean?
[05:44] <dermitrius> i wished i had pluked up the courage earlier to come to places such as this
[05:44] <Rodni> ok so how do I quit this nano?
[05:44] <Pingjockey> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:44] <coollink> ok thx
[05:44] <Pingjockey> control x
[05:45] <dermitrius> it prolly would have saved me alot of time, reinstall any windows above 98se is no fun
[05:45] <coollink> what mean sudo jsut to know?
[05:45] <Rodni> hmmm even sources.list is empty
[05:45] <Pingjockey> I will tell you though I learned more about gcc and stuff from gentoo than you can shake a stick at
[05:45] <Pingjockey> sudo mean super user do
[05:45] <Pingjockey> from what I hear
[05:45] <zblach> hi
[05:45] <coollink> wpw, sound cool :P
[05:45] <Pingjockey> ok rodni wait 1 sec
[05:45] <dermitrius> superuser do, rather than su which switches to root
[05:45] <zblach> Pingjockey, it's also a play on the word 'pseudo'
[05:46] <Rodni> I dont have much choice :P
[05:46] <Pingjockey> see I learned something new today...
[05:46] <Rodni> You guys should open a skype help channel or something
[05:46] <coollink> do you have a good reference web site for know starting with linux?
[05:46] <Pingjockey> anyone got a breezy sources.list flaoting around
[05:46] <Pingjockey> I only have dapper
[05:46] <zblach> Pingjockey, sure
[05:46] <dermitrius> sudo: basically saves you from being root for too long
[05:46] <zblach> where to?
[05:47] <Pingjockey> just need a few lines at a time for rodni so we don't flood the channel
[05:47] <zblach> ok
[05:47] <dermitrius> pingjocky, one moment, i'll get the one from my server
[05:47] <zblach> do you want kde 3.5.1?
[05:47] <Pingjockey> nah, I just need to get him up and running now.. we will deal with kde 3.5.1 later
[05:48] <zblach>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:48] <zblach>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:48] <Rodni> type those?
[05:48] <Nirvana> Pingjockey: to change dapper sources to breezy, just find and replace breezy with dapper
[05:48] <Pingjockey> ok rodni cop those into sources.list
[05:48] <zblach> type them into /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <knoppix> hi, could anyone pls help me to install grub? i have crashed one of my disks. now installed winxp on disc /dev/hda and my kubuntu should be on /dev/hdc but i don't know how to reinstall grub, to boot into my kubuntu again. currently running knoppix. pls help me
[05:48] <FlakJacket> does anyone know how to recieve ssid broadcasts in kubuntu?
[05:48] <zblach> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <zblach> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <Pingjockey> thanks nirvana did not realize that
[05:49] <zblach> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:49] <zblach> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:49] <Nirvana> knoppix: does that mean you can't boot into Kubuntu?
[05:49] <Pingjockey> knoppix, you can install grub from the cli.. open a window.. and launch grub by typing grub.
[05:49] <zblach> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:49] <Nirvana> zblach: no pasting, use pastebin: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:49] <knoppix> Nirvana, i don't know how to install grub
[05:49] <dermitrius> flakjacket, do you have your wireless driver installed
[05:49] <zblach> ok nirv
[05:50] <Pingjockey> Nirvana: that was my fault.. sorry about that I asked him to do it
[05:50] <zblach> Rodni, still need those lines?
[05:50] <knoppix> Pingjockey, what do you mean with cli ? console?
[05:50] <zblach> one lieft
[05:50] <zblach> **left
[05:50] <Nirvana> knoppix: can you boot into kubu at all? if you can't, your gonna need smart boot manager (a floppy disk, you can google it)
[05:50] <Pingjockey> Knoppix yeah
[05:50] <knoppix> i am currently running knoppix
[05:50] <ryanakca> is there a program that will make compiling from source "easyer" with less chance of me "messing up"?
[05:51] <ryanakca> seeing that I can't install GIMP threw apt or from a .deb file
[05:51] <dermitrius> flakjacket, which type/model wireless device
[05:51] <knoppix> i can mount my kubuntu hd and can e.g. chroot into it
[05:51] <Nirvana> OK
[05:51] <Pingjockey> if your grub conf file is there you can use grub from the command line and just reinstall grub to the mbr.. I thought the conf file was in /boot
[05:51] <Rodni> wooow hang on, am I suppose to copy all of them? I just did the first two
[05:51] <Nirvana> knoppix: when you chroot to it, just do an sudo apt-get install grub
[05:51] <Pingjockey> rodni yeah all of them
[05:51] <Rodni> Its taking me longer because I try not to misspel them
[05:52] <Rodni> hmm alright
[05:52] <knoppix> Nirvana, oh i will try this
[05:52] <Pingjockey> yeah that will work as well knoppix
[05:52] <dermitrius> flakjacket, recently tried install a 'cable and wireless' usb adapter in a mates machine and once i had the driver in it got the ssid stright away
[05:52] <frank23> ryanakca: why cant use install gimp with adept or synaptic?
[05:53] <ryanakca> frank23: because apt's gimp is GIMP 2.2.8. I want GIMP 2.2.10
[05:54] <frank23> oh
[05:54] <Pingjockey> anyone know if the repositres are updated for dapper to reflect flight 4?
[05:55] <frank23> ryanakca: there are programs that help compiling from source but i dont know them.  What I do is just  use  checkinstall instead of make install  .
[05:55] <knoppix> Nirvana, i've done in my chroot environment apt-get --reinstall grub
[05:55] <Pingjockey> gimp is at 2.2.10 in dapper
[05:55] <dermitrius> pingjockey, i installed flight 3 when it came out, and today i only had 6 updates, and have had about 30 every 2 days prior to today so i guess so
[05:55] <frank23> i makes .deb and installs it.
[05:55] <knoppix> Nirvana, can i now reboot or do i have to setup something ?
[05:56] <ryanakca> ok, so ./configure      make     make checkinstall
[05:56] <ryanakca> ???
[05:56] <Nirvana> knoppix: didn't it ask you if you had Windows installed or something?
[05:56] <frank23> ryanakca:   ./configure   make   sudo checkinstall
[05:56] <ryanakca> kk
[05:56] <ryanakca> ty
[05:56] <frank23> ryanakca: there is a wiki on this
[05:56] <Nirvana> knoppix: post the output of cat /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:57] <knoppix> nirvana, no questions from apt
[05:57] <Nirvana> knoppix: post the output of cat /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:57] <FlakJacket> but what if you've already entered an ssid
[05:57] <Pingjockey> dermitrius: Cool thanks
[05:58] <Nirvana> knoppix: and if that doesn't have your windows and kubu partitions, you will prolly have to "apt-get remove grub --purge" and 'apt-get install grub'.. in my personal experience, I've found the --reinstall comand to be broken...
[05:58] <Rodni> Ok Pingjockey and zblach Im currently on the last command breezy-backports
[05:58] <dermitrius> flakjacket, do you have any windows machines, if so what ssid do they pickup and is the one you enetered the same as that?
[05:59] <Rodni> should I type the de-scr version for that as well?
[05:59] <Rodni> Are there any more to type?
[05:59] <Al-Daja> http://pastebin.com/562884
[06:00] <dermitrius> flakjacket, another idea might be to remove the interface config or reset the ssid/essid lin to blank
[06:00] <Pingjockey> I noticed in adept that alot of the kde packages are not installed anyone know why that maybe? I installed from dapper 3
[06:00] <mth`MAW> Hi someone here, who likes to figure out REALLY weired problems?
[06:00] <knoppix> Nirvana, i can't see my windows there, will try the purge install procedure you suggest
[06:00] <mth`MAW> :D
[06:01] <coollink> iv try zblach> do you want kde 3.5.1?
[06:01] <coollink> <Pingjocke
[06:01] <coollink> sorry
[06:01] <dermitrius> pingjockey, i notieced that too, my they lessend the dependancies of kubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <dermitrius> maybe*
[06:01] <Nirvana> mth`MAW: we all like weird probs :P
[06:01] <mth`MAW> I only hear sound, from all apps after I suspended to disc
[06:01] <FlakJacket> o ok dermitrius
[06:02] <Pingjockey> good example here seems that kde-core is not installed
[06:02] <mth`MAW> only yakuake give a beep via line-out
[06:02] <dermitrius> fakjacket, then that might allow it to pickup the ssid :)
[06:02] <knoppix> Nirvana, there have been no questions again. i have just removed all files in /boot/grub before doing the apt-get install grub
[06:02] <mth`MAW> Amarok, bmp, xmms all they look like they are playing something, but I do not hear anything
[06:02] <Rodni> helo? I've done total of 4 lines so far each with deb and deb-scr
[06:03] <coollink> iv try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg tha app ask me lot of question about my display and keyb, but when is choose the refresh rate of my screen i got the folowing message xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwirting possibly-custumized configuration file; bakcup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.200602190700
[06:03] <knoppix> Nirvana, there were none created. i think i have to trigger the process kubuntu uses at installstion time to include all installed operating systems
[06:03] <coollink> what thas mean?
[06:03] <dermitrius> pingjockey, my install doesn't have kde-core either :p
[06:03] <Pingjockey> k you should be good to go rodni
[06:04] <djib> hey
[06:04] <Rodni> ...
[06:04] <Nirvana> knoppix: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[06:04] <djib> how to see all persons logged in my pc ?
[06:04] <mth`MAW> so nobody has an idea?
[06:04] <djib> apparently users doesn't show the ssh users
[06:05] <Nirvana> knoppix: otherwise, you have to manually add the windows partitions
[06:05] <Rodni> hey can you see me?
[06:05] <frank23> djib:   who
[06:05] <dermitrius> this is the first time ever i have shared my experiances and gained knowledge of linux
[06:05] <Pingjockey> yes rodni
[06:05] <Rodni> ah ok just checking
[06:05] <djib> frank23: nope
[06:05] <coollink> iv try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg tha app ask me lot of question about my display and keyb, but when is choose the refresh rate of my screen i got the folowing message xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwirting possibly-custumized configuration file; bakcup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.200602190700. is this normal? and what i have to do after?
[06:05] <djib> doesn't show me ssh either frank23
[06:05] <frank23> djib: or just the command    w
[06:06] <Rodni> so how to save what I typed in Nano?
[06:06] <Pingjockey> just go ahead and overwrite it.. you uses resolutions that make sense right?
[06:06] <Pingjockey> control o
[06:06] <Pingjockey> to save in nano
[06:06] <coollink> yes i hav echoose rigth resolution? so i reboot?
[06:06] <Rodni> aaaaaaaaa
[06:06] <coollink> that exit the xserver configuration tool
[06:06] <knoppix> Nirvana, dpkg-reconfigure grub runs without any output. i tried grub-install /dev/hda. now there are atleast some files in the /boot/grub directory but no menu.lst
[06:07] <Pingjockey> coolink you should not have to reboot...
[06:07] <Rodni> it told me Error writing etc/apt/sources/list: no such file or directory
[06:07] <djib> frank23: no, w doens't show me ssh users either
[06:07] <dermitrius> coollink, when is say about the backup, all it is, is a date/time stamped so that you know when it was created
[06:07] <djib> that's scary
[06:07] <Rodni> sorry sources.list
[06:07] <coollink> ok, but when is ask me my defaut color depth in bits, i set 24, and it exit me from the isntaller and print the warning i told
[06:07] <Pingjockey> try saving it somewhere else then.. we can copy it later...
[06:08] <Rodni> mmm ok
[06:08] <dermitrius> coolink is there a yes/no question to the backup thing?
[06:08] <Nirvana> knoppix: looks like you have to manually create it then
[06:08] <Rodni> save it without s at the end
[06:08] <coollink> no, no question is only a warning, and it return me in the consol
[06:08] <frank23> Rodni: did you put a slash before etc?    /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:09] <coollink> perhaps the configuration was finish i dont know
[06:09] <Nirvana> knoppix: is there a grub.conf? post it on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:09] <djib> frank23: is ther eanother command ?
[06:09] <knoppix> Nirvana, ok i will copy back the backup i did before erasing
[06:09] <Rodni> I dont have to it gives me the default name anyway
[06:09] <Rodni> oh before
[06:09] <Rodni> hmm no I didint
[06:09] <dermitrius> coolink, if the original xorg.conf is of no use (ie not working), perhaps removing will help
[06:09] <knoppix> Nirvana, no sorry, no grub.conf under /boot/grub
[06:09] <frank23> djib: w  works for  me (ssh from localhost) and has worked on every other unix system i've been on
[06:10] <Rodni> now it gave me another error saying Read only file
[06:10] <djib> frank23: a friend is logged in ssh on my machine, I don't see him
[06:10] <Rodni> Pingjockey the trick with / in front of etc worked but why read only when Im root?
[06:10] <dermitrius> coollink as sudo or root rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then do the reconfigure
[06:10] <frank23> Rodni: sudo nano  to use nano as root
[06:10] <Rodni> Im already root
[06:10] <Pingjockey> I don't know...
[06:11] <Pingjockey> hmm
[06:11] <coollink> in fact my problem is the next: when i starting my computer linux seem to load properly, i see all the OK list, but after my screen turn black and nothing appens, no kde no console, if i pres ctrl alt f5 i can go into consol mode with alt 1 2 3 etc. so i was thinking is was a rezolution problem, but someone have other idea?
[06:11] <Nirvana> knoppix: looks like you have to manually create it then
[06:11] <Pingjockey> Rodni did the file save?
[06:12] <Rodni> nope
[06:12] <Pingjockey> did you save it somewhere else?
[06:12] <dermitrius> coolink, what graphics card do you have?
[06:12] <_b> in process table there is a icon of ghost on some process is it a bad thing ?
[06:12] <Rodni> Error writing /etc/apt/sources/list: Read-only file system
[06:12] <coollink> ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 with 128MB DDR video memory.
[06:12] <Rodni> no i havent tried that yet
[06:12] <dermitrius> coolink, thats right now i recall :)
[06:12] <coollink> the xserver conf tool seam to have detec them properly, good name good irq etc....
[06:12] <Pingjockey> ok save it somewhere else then.. like /tmp/sources.list or something
[06:13] <coollink> :P
[06:13] <dermitrius> coolink, ok so the fgrlx didn't install right?
[06:13] <coollink> i dont know, i think not
[06:13] <dahump> Newbie here, does anyone know why AMAROK won't play streaming audio? It shows the buffer, but no sound comes out. Sound is currently working.
[06:13] <Rodni> Ok, no matter what I do or where I try to save it it comes with the same Read only error
[06:13] <fyzix> Can anyone tell me how to configure my fourth button on my new mouse?
[06:13] <dermitrius> coolink, ok before removing the xorg file open it up in your favorite editor...
[06:14] <coollink> ok, but where is taht file?
[06:14] <djib> frank23: my friend is using winscp, could that be the reason ?
[06:14] <coollink> x11 xorg?
[06:14] <dermitrius> coolink, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:14] <dermitrius> coolink, when its is open go down the file and find a driver setting
[06:15] <coollink> it sayd no write permission
[06:15] <dermitrius> coolink, what is that set to?
[06:15] <coollink> i can open
[06:15] <Rodni> So basically if I cant save it its no good
[06:15] <Pingjockey> Rodni yeah thats right
[06:15] <dermitrius> coolink, we will do changes in a min
[06:15] <dahump> Newbie here, does anyone know why AMAROK won't play streaming audio? It shows the buffer, but no sound comes out. Sound is currently working.
[06:15] <frank23> djib: if thats a ssh client, it should be ok
[06:15] <Rodni> is nano the same as vi?
[06:15] <knoppix> Nirvana, thx for your help. i will try a reboot. let's see where i end up :)
[06:16] <Rodni> maybe should try different editor
[06:16] <dermitrius> coolink, there both editors
[06:16] <djib> its some windows ssh client... It's a graphic tool for scp apparently
[06:16] <dermitrius> coolink, sry i sent that to you and it wasn't applicable :)
[06:16] <coollink> ie of edito? i only not edit  ***
[06:16] <dermitrius> coolink, ok so the file is open
[06:16] <coollink> np
[06:17] <frank23> djib: just for scp?  does that do a real ssh login?
[06:17] <Pingjockey> feels his ulcer a flamming
[06:17] <coollink> i dont know how to poen it:P sry guy im new oon linux
[06:17] <djib> I don't know frank23
[06:17] <djib> I don't think so
[06:17] <dermitrius> coolink, ok sry :)
[06:17] <Pingjockey> ok Rodni....
[06:17] <Rodni> hmm, so I guess as I feared my only option really is to reinstall from CD
[06:17] <dermitrius> coolink, ok r u in a console on the laptop ?
[06:17] <coollink> open xorg.conf and sayd permission denied
[06:17] <frank23> Rodni: what is the problem?
[06:17] <Pingjockey> it almost sounds like you permissions are messed up as well...
[06:18] <dermitrius> coolink, it won't open read only?
[06:18] <coollink> i caht on my other computer, but im in front of th elaptop inconsol mode
[06:18] <dermitrius> coolink, ok
[06:18] <coollink> i have to log into admin mode?
[06:18] <dermitrius> coolink, that or we will use sudo. it upto you
[06:19] <Rodni> yeah could be. Altough this was something I had from the beginning when I installed kubuntu
[06:19] <coollink> ok yes, so y try sudo open xorg.conf?
[06:19] <Rodni> frank23 its really a long story
[06:19] <dermitrius> coolink, yep
[06:19] <frank23> Rodni: ok... i'm not in the mood for long stories ;)
[06:19] <Pingjockey> you know what rodni, lets reinstall... lets go step by step though
[06:19] <coollink> i done that, but open xorg.conf seam to do nothing
[06:19] <Rodni> I broke Kubuntu, cant get into GUI and only in recovery mode. I want kubuntu back so I can back up a single folder before removing it completely
[06:20] <Rodni> I will install it again on my other hard disk tho
[06:20] <Nirvana> rodni: what about typing startx?
[06:20] <dermitrius> coolink, did you put the full path, or are you in the path?
[06:20] <djib> that really scares me not se see people logged in my computer... Anyone has an idea ?
[06:20] <coollink> im in the path
[06:20] <Rodni> whats startx?
[06:20] <dermitrius> coolink, ok cool
[06:21] <tecs> i upgraded....should i keep my etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc or replace it with the update? what does it do anyway
[06:21] <Rodni> There is another option here Pingjockey if you are good with networks....since Im now connected you can just tell me how to browse trough my files using command line and doing a copy paste to a different PC
[06:21] <dermitrius> coolink, ok in the current path (/etc/X11) type "ls" and see if there is an xorg.conf file
[06:22] <Rodni> If that works with Tar or whatever then I will be dead happy
[06:22] <coollink> yes theyre is
[06:22] <dermitrius> and yet when you tried to open it didn't do anything
[06:22] <Pingjockey> well you could tarball the folder... then upload the folder to another pc... do you have a ftp server on your network?
[06:22] <coollink> just to be sure, waht is the rigt command for do that?
[06:23] <Pingjockey> nvidia question for those running dapper.. does the glx pakage works with the new verison of xorg?
[06:23] <dermitrius> coollink, you used vi correct?
[06:23] <coollink> no
[06:23] <coollink> what is vi?
[06:23] <Rodni> ftp server. No
[06:23] <dermitrius> pingjockey, i'm ati, can't help you there
[06:24] <dermitrius> coollink ok then try nano to open the file
[06:25] <coollink> i enter vi and now im in a vim - vi - improved
[06:25] <dermitrius> coollink ok
[06:25] <coollink> i dont know how to left that
[06:25] <Rodni> I did try to trasfer files before and it worked but I havent done it trough command line
[06:25] <dermitrius> coollink to quit :q
[06:26] <dermitrius> coollink then  type vi xorg.conf and that should work
[06:26] <Pingjockey> afk
[06:27] <coollink> ok im in vi with the file xorg.conf
[06:27] <dermitrius> coollink to navigate the file use the arrow keys
[06:27] <coollink> yes, and now im oing dow for the driver?
[06:27] <dermitrius> coollink yep
[06:28] <dermitrius> coollink what value is set for driver?
[06:28] <coollink> section device: identifier "ati tech......   radeon mobility x700 (rv410)"
[06:28] <digi> hey guys!
[06:28] <Rodni> aaah, Dir is used in linux too. I just found my directory I need to put safe.
[06:28] <dermitrius> coollink thats the right section
[06:29] <coollink> the driver is "ati"
[06:29] <Rodni> can I some how copy and paste it on a network pc?
[06:29] <dermitrius> coollink ok
[06:29] <dermitrius> coollink one sec
[06:29] <coollink> BusID "pci:1:0:0"
[06:30] <dermitrius> coollink that means agp :)
[06:30] <Rodni> I guess not. Copy is not a command
[06:30] <coollink> ok
[06:30] <digi> Guys - where can I get Kautomatix?
[06:32] <dermitrius> coollink ok exit file for now, we need to reaproach the situation
[06:32] <Nomad411> !kautomatix
[06:32] <ubotu> Nomad411: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <coollink> ok, for exit vi, what i have t do?
[06:32] <dermitrius> coollink :q
[06:33] <Rodni> Im gonna go and eat something then will continue this
[06:33] <Rodni> its shame we cant pm either
[06:33] <dermitrius> coollink so to reiterate, after system start up kdm goes to load and you get no picture right ?
[06:34] <coollink> yes
[06:34] <coollink> no picutre black screen, th emonitor seem to go off
[06:34] <dermitrius> coollink, heres a test, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop .....
[06:35] <coollink> im not even surre kdm load, but im sure all the OK list goes
[06:35] <dermitrius> coollink, then type startkde
[06:35] <dermitrius> coollink if it was a desktop install, then kdm started couldn't get a screen, and stays loaded
[06:36] <coollink> ok the stop make a lsit of ok, and now i cannot enter anything, no command line visible
[06:36] <_macke> Hey! How do i make my NTFS drive readable for all users??
[06:36] <dermitrius> coollink ok hit this key combo ctrl-alt-f1
[06:36] <dermitrius> coollink that gets you back to console
[06:36] <coollink> ok
[06:36] <coollink> yes
[06:37] <dermitrius> coollink ok back to test
[06:37] <coollink> ok, ive start kde
[06:37] <dermitrius> coollink now type startkde
[06:37] <dermitrius> coollink seems you were a step ahead of me on that one :)
[06:37] <coollink> kdeinit aborting. $Display is not set
[06:37] <coollink> :P yes
[06:38] <coollink> canot conect to x server...
[06:38] <coollink> i have a series of message like that
[06:38] <dermitrius> coollink ok thinking..
[06:38] <coollink> startkde: Shutting down....
[06:39] <NoTech> hi what is the main difference between Kubuntu -Dapper and -Breezy?
[06:39] <dermitrius> coollink what is the final message (for example "no screens found")
[06:39] <coollink> at the top of the screen i can read  xsetroot: unable to open display
[06:39] <_macke> how do i reload fstab??
[06:40] <coollink> Ca't contact kdeinit
[06:40] <coollink> i have many error, not jsut one at the end
[06:41] <NoTech> any?
[06:41] <mnoir> !breezy
[06:41] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:41] <mnoir> !dapper
[06:41] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[06:41] <thehil> how can I figure out where to put the WIN32 codecs for mplayer??
[06:41] <NoTech> thanx
[06:42] <NoTech> ubotu are u a bot?
[06:42] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NoTech
[06:42] <dermitrius> coollink ok, copy /var/log/Xorg.x.log to your computer your on irc and send me them
[06:42] <NoTech> :))
[06:43] <coollink> ok, but how can i do that? no floppy on th elaptop, i dont know how to make it.... any idea?
[06:43] <dermitrius> coollink ok, copy them to floppy disk/usbkey or whatever you prefer (copy command is cp)
[06:43] <coollink> i have a usb key, but how i done that with linux?
[06:43] <dermitrius> coollink then put them on your irc machine and dcc send me them
[06:44] <_david> NoTech: I think the biggest difference will be that dapper can be installed from a livecd while breeze need a special install cd
[06:44] <dermitrius> coollink plug it into a usb port on the laptop
[06:45] <coollink> ok, the key is plug, and alot of thing as been show on the screen,
[06:45] <dermitrius> coollink hangon i'm trying to remeber how to mount a device read write
[06:45] <coollink> how can i acces dthe usb key?
[06:45] <_david> hey, can someone explain me how config files work in kubunto, for instance if I edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually what will happen X gets updated?
[06:46] <dermitrius> coollink first as root (or sudo) type mkdir /media/usbkey
[06:47] <coollink> ok i done that, but nothing seem to be done...
[06:47] <dermitrius> coollink thats where we are gonna mount the usb key
[06:47] <coollink> ok
[06:47] <coollink> that make a dir, ok i understand..
[06:49] <dermitrius> coolink i'm just sorting out a line to add to /etc/fstab that will allow you to mount the usbkey at the dir we just made
[06:50] <dermitrius> coolink /etc/fstab is a file that controls the mounting of cdroms hard drives and such
[06:50] <_david> dermitrius: that's not needed I think
[06:51] <_david> dermitrius: afaik what needs to be done is    sudo mount /dev/usbdeviceiforgotthenameof /media/usbkey
[06:52] <tecs> how come my konqueror wont open it says malformed url and cant locate kioo file
[06:52] <visik7> tecs: with which url ?
[06:53] <tecs> with my home folder...
[06:54] <dermitrius> coollink slowdown :)
[06:55] <dermitrius> david, he has no gui so no automount, and if you mount like that then its readonly :)
[06:56] <dermitrius> coollink this line needs to be added to the file /etc/fstab "/dev/sda        /media/usbkey   vfat    rw      0       0"
[06:57] <coollink> hi, my computer lock up, stupid DVD rw
[06:57] <coollink> im back
[06:57] <dermitrius> coollink repeated due to disconnect this line needs to be added to the file /etc/fstab "/dev/sda        /media/usbkey   vfat    rw      0       0"
[06:58] <coollink> i hav eto add that ?
[06:58] <dermitrius> coollink its best that is added as is, the spaces are tabs
[06:59] <dermitrius> coollink then you can type sudo mount /media/usbkey, should work is your usb key device is vfat and sda :)
[06:59] <coollink> it is normal than in fstab theyre is nothing? no text
[06:59] <dermitrius> coollink /etc/fstab should not be empty :)
[06:59] <coollink> is empty... i open it with nano fstab
[06:59] <_david> coollink: you probably the wrong path, type nano /etc/fstab
[07:00] <_david> not nano fstab
[07:00] <dermitrius> coollink he may already be in etc :)
[07:00] <dermitrius> he may already be in etc :)
[07:00] <_david> ok :)
[07:00] <coollink> ok now im in the good pace
[07:01] <coollink> there is some text in it
[07:01] <coollink> sry
[07:01] <dermitrius> coollink if /etc/fstab was empty his laptop would have a hardtime booting :)
[07:01] <dermitrius> coollink np
[07:01] <Rodni> Im back!
[07:01] <dermitrius> coollink then go to bottom of file with arrow keys
[07:02] <dermitrius> coollink the press the end key to go to the end of the line
[07:02] <Rodni> Who has enough experience to help me with reinstalling Kubuntu without losing my home folder?
[07:02] <dermitrius> coollink then hit the "i" to begin editing (you are in read-write mode right)
[07:03] <Rodni> I'm ready to follow instructions :)
[07:03] <_david> dermitrius: he's using nano, not vi?
[07:03] <coollink> i have write th ecommand you told me, its seem to be ok
[07:03] <coollink> nano
[07:03] <mnoir> rodni: kubuntu REALLY LIKES to reformat yer disk - first step would be to backup home as you have been struggling all day to do....
[07:03] <dermitrius> coollink ok cool either way as long as its there :p
[07:04] <coollink> i save and close that?
[07:04] <Rodni> :(
[07:04] <dermitrius> coollink yep
[07:04] <Rodni> Can't I just tell kubuntu to only install in the root folder?
[07:04] <coollink> oups
[07:04] <coollink> eror to write fstab, permission denied
[07:04] <coollink> i dont have the write acces i think
[07:04] <Rodni> after all the reason I made all these partitions was in case of failuer like that
[07:05] <mnoir> ok - so home really is a separate partition?
[07:05] <dermitrius> coollink if as i hope is the case (ie that your usb ket is fat32 formated and is on the sytem as /dev/sda) then when you type mount /media/usbkey we should be ok :)
[07:05] <Rodni> yes, but logical because I ran out of primary
[07:05] <Rodni> hope this dosent matter
[07:06] <ejofee_> how do i change settings in motif? what is its config file?
[07:06] <coollink> but th eproblem is  i cant save the fstab
[07:06] <mnoir> that is ok - pls type df at a command prompt to display all mounted filesystems
[07:07] <dermitrius> coollink ah ok then "sudo" edit it :)
[07:07] <mnoir> paste the line that sez /home at the end
[07:07] <Rodni> My partitions are as follow: 1 primary 10.5GB NTFS, 2 primary 106.9MB ext3 (boot), 3 primary 10.4GB ext3 (root
[07:07] <coollink> yes ok min
[07:07] <mnoir> e.g. /dev/hda3             45815940   7199876  38616064  16% /home
[07:07] <mnoir> (this is mine)
[07:07] <_david> dermitrius: I just tested but      sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbkey          sudo touch /media/usbkey/itworks        does work
[07:08] <Snake__> !pastebin
[07:08] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:08] <Rodni> 5 logical 509.9MB ext3 (swap) and last 6 logical 38GB ext3 (home)
[07:08] <mnoir> snake - for just 1 line??
[07:08] <coollink> ok, i save the fstab file, now i do mount /media/usbkey????
[07:08] <Rodni> mnoir Im currently in the installation screen
[07:08] <Rodni> where the partitions are
[07:08] <Snake__> mnoir: there were lots of people pasting >.< hehe
[07:09] <mnoir> :)
[07:09] <Rodni> no command line there
[07:09] <mnoir> oic
[07:09] <dermitrius> david, any emtpy dir will work like that because your are effectivly writing to "/"
[07:09] <Rodni> do you want me to do it different way? I dont know how it works exactly
[07:09] <mnoir> this is very scary - i am afraid i will help you lose all that you want to preserve
[07:10] <Rodni> heh :P
[07:10] <dermitrius> david, if you mount an device on it then it will write to the device
[07:10] <coollink> ok i think is done
[07:10] <coollink> how can i chek that?
[07:10] <mnoir> did i hear you say that pm was a problem?
[07:10] <_david> dermitrius: I did mount, the first command does that
[07:10] <Rodni> who me?
[07:10] <mnoir> yes you
[07:10] <Rodni> I think so
[07:11] <mnoir> what about a separate channel?
[07:11] <dermitrius> coollink like this "sudo mount /media/usbkey"
[07:11] <mnoir> it is too noisy here
[07:11] <Rodni> oh yeah I could make one and just ask for help so they can join in
[07:11] <dermitrius> david, sry
[07:11] <Rodni> good idea
[07:11] <coollink> i done that, but it sayd dev/sda already mounted or /media/usbkey busy
[07:11] <dermitrius> david, didn't notice
[07:11] <mnoir> invite me when you are there
[07:12] <coollink> when i ve plug my ysb key, i think he mount automaticly, no?
[07:12] <bbeck> Hello, I was wondering, in the system settings -> User Account -> Password & User Account, what does "At the Password Prompt" do?  It's set to "Show one star for each letter", and I have no idea what that's for?  Is it for kdesu, that's the only place I can think of where it's showing one star per letter?
[07:12] <dermitrius> coolink, do you have anyothe usb storage devices pluged in?
[07:12] <_david> coollink: I think you are in /media/usbkey, pleaso type cd .. first, type mount to check if it is mounted already
[07:12] <coollink> storage no, jsuta usb mouse
[07:12] <mnoir> bbeck - different ways of fooling folks who watch you type
[07:12] <_david> dermitrius: np
[07:13] <dermitrius> coolink not sure, mine only automount in gui
[07:13] <coollink> beacuse when i have put the key,  i recevei a message, assuming drive cacheL write trhoug
[07:13] <Rodni> If anyone can possibly help me out reinstall my Kubuntu without losing my /home folder (seperate partition) please join the channel #rodni.help
[07:13] <_david> coollink: If it would automount it would automount on that directory so that can not be it, you are probably in the /media/usbkey directory, that's why it says its busy
[07:14] <Rodni> I would really appreciate any help
[07:14] <coollink> ok yes
[07:14] <coollink> that trug im in that dir
[07:14] <_david> coollink: I mean would not automaount.. :)
[07:14] <bbeck> mnoir: Ah yes I know, but where is it setting one star per letter?
[07:14] <rysiek> hi there
[07:14] <dermitrius> coollink an idea, under media what dirs are there, what data, if any is on the key, and if so does it match the data inside of any the dirs in /media?
[07:14] <rysiek> anyone can give me a hint what app should I use for TeX editing?
[07:15] <dermitrius> coollink sry if that seems confusing
[07:15] <coollink> ok
[07:15] <dermitrius> coollink i took a long while to write because it nearly confused me :)
[07:15] <coollink> under media, i have sdb1, there i have my storage
[07:15] <rysiek> I need to create a TeX document, and can't seem to find any reasonable editor
[07:15] <coollink> under usbkey, nothing
[07:15] <_david> rysiek: do you mean an editor to type the TeX text, or an editor that generates it?
[07:15] <dumkopf> rysiek: teTeX?
[07:15] <coollink> so the usb ey is alreay mount
[07:16] <coollink> i see my stuff
[07:16] <dermitrius> coollink ok fair enough
[07:16] <rysiek> _david: editor to type - well, Kate seems to do it OK, I need something that would show me, what the forula looks like :)
[07:16] <rysiek> dumkopf: looking into it ;)
[07:16] <coollink> so how forgot waht are we doing that:P
[07:16] <coollink> copy a log file?
[07:16] <_david> rysiek: there is a good editor for kde to do that, I will try to remember the name :)
[07:16] <rysiek> kformula? :] 
[07:17] <dumkopf> Kile
[07:17] <_david> rysiek: it's called kile
[07:17] <_david> hehe too late :D
[07:17] <rysiek> ok, thx :)
[07:17] <bbeck> rysiek: I'm not that familiar with Tex, but I think Lyx might be what you're looking for.
[07:17] <_david> yeah, but lyx is to generate the latex
[07:17] <dermitrius> coollink ok (sudo) cp /var/log/xorg.*.log to the usbkey (not certain that will copy them all if there is more than 1)
[07:18] <dermitrius> coolling for the runabout process of mounting the usbkey, if was just incase it wasn't automounted :)
[07:18] <dermitrius> coollink*
[07:19] <coollink> ok :p
[07:19] <dermitrius> coollink did they copy?
[07:19] <coollink> they is any way to unplug the usb key? orjsute unplug it
[07:20] <coollink> yes they copy
[07:20] <_david> coollink: first umount
[07:20] <_david> coollink: sudo umount /media/sda1
[07:20] <dreamwave> hello.  i've got an airlink mimo xr wifi card (rt2600 chip).  does anyone know if kubuntu supports this?
[07:21] <Snake__> !ndiswrapper
[07:21] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:21] <_macke> hey! does anyone know the adress for freequest? i tried irc.freequest.net but no luck.
[07:21] <dermitrius> coollink or come out of dir if you are in a dir on the usbkey then unplug is another way to doit and it avoids umount issues such as device is in use :)
[07:22] <dreamwave> thanks Snake__
[07:22] <coollink> ok, now i have the log on this coputer, how i send it to you?
[07:22] <Snake__> dreamwave: I'm not sure if it will work, wifi on linux is extremely hit and miss
[07:22] <_macke> how do i unpack rar files??
[07:22] <Snake__> !rar
[07:22] <ubotu> methinks rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:22] <_david> but does someone know what happens if I edit a config file (say /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and than I upgrade x, will it overwrite the config file?
[07:22] <Snake__> _macke: thats to you
[07:23] <_macke> Snake_:Thanks!
[07:23] <dreamwave> Snake__: don't i know it.  i've got madwifi running an atheros mini-pci card.  it took a lot of tweaking to get it right.  i've never done the ndiswrapper thing.  but there is always a first time...
[07:24] <dermitrius> coollink ok with key in irc machine, right click on my name in the user list, then left click send file (should work for most irc clients)
[07:24] <dermitrius> coollink how many logs were there?
[07:24] <Snake__> dreamwave: IMHO ndiswrapper is great, but I would use whatever works with the card, for me it was ndiswrapper, thats why that was my first answer :)
[07:24] <coollink> 2 log, but one was.old,
[07:24] <coollink> ive send th elog to you, but did you accept?
[07:25] <dermitrius> coollink ok
[07:25] <_david> coollink: or poste the newest one on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com  so I can take a look too :)
[07:25] <_macke> Snake_: Ark says that unrar isnt installed, but i downloaded it five minutes ago...
[07:25] <dermitrius> coollink prolly a better idea :)
[07:25] <Snake__> _macke: what do you mean?
[07:25] <dermitrius> coollink use that method that david mentioned
[07:26] <coollink> ok i have done that
[07:26] <_david> coollink: can you poste the url to your message here?
[07:26] <Snake__> _macke: You instelled unrar-nonfree?
[07:26] <dermitrius> coollink ok i'm taking a look
[07:26] <coollink> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/563004
[07:26] <_david> coollink: thanks
[07:26] <_macke> Snake_:yes
[07:26] <coollink> thx to you guys
[07:27] <Snake__> mazer: then did you do this step: "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar /usr/bin/rar"
[07:27] <Snake__> oops
[07:27] <Snake__> _macke: that step was to you
[07:28] <Snake__> hatake_kakashi: connection probs?
[07:29] <bam_> anyone know how to capture the output of a command?
[07:29] <dermitrius> david, no (EE) that i can see
[07:29] <_macke> SNake_: yeah i get this: "/usr/bin/rar": the file does not exist
[07:29] <Snake__> _macke: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:29] <_david> coollink: can you try typing xinit
[07:29] <_david> coollink: I thinks it's a kdm problem and not a x problem
[07:29] <Snake__> _macke: im not really sure :( sorry
[07:30] <coollink> i taped xinit, and now i have the blackscreen
[07:30] <_david> dermitrius: no, no real errors, it fails at Synaptics DeviceOff called
[07:30] <_macke> Snake_: ok Thanks anyway!
[07:31] <_david> coollink: you dont have a cross mouse pointer, just entirely black?
[07:31] <dermitrius> david, he has a laptop, satellite m70 sr600
[07:31] <coollink> all black, th emonitore seem to be off, like rez problem
[07:32] <coollink> and now, i cant go back to the consol, i seem stock in the black screen... alt f5, f2, etc doese work
[07:32] <_david> coollink: ok, type ctrl-alt-backspace to get back
[07:32] <_david> coollink: that kills x
[07:32] <coollink> nide :D
[07:32] <coollink> that work
[07:33] <dermitrius> coollink brb
[07:33] <_david> coollink: ok, a minute please, I will try to find the problem
[07:33] <coollink> thx
[07:33] <dermitrius> coollink back
[07:33] <_macke> hey! does anyone know the adress for freequest? i tried irc.freequest.net but no luck.
[07:35] <_macke> !freequest
[07:35] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _macke
[07:35] <_macke> lol
[07:36] <Snake__> malte: try this
[07:36] <Snake__> eleet.sc.us.freequest.net
[07:36] <_macke> Snake_:Thanks
[07:37] <Snake__> _macke: You will notice that freequest runs on port 7000, not 6667 (IRC standard) so you can connect to irc.freequest.net, but you need to tell your client to connent to port 7000
[07:37] <_macke> Snake_: oh ok Thanks!
[07:38] <coollink> it seem to be an hard one:P
[07:39] <Snake__> coollink: huh?
[07:39] <coollink> my problem,
[07:39] <_david> coollink: I googled a bit, could you take a look at line 13 of  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30xorg-common_xresources
[07:39] <_david> coollink: sudo nano /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30xorg-common_xresources
[07:40] <_david> coollink: than on line 13 run_parts should be run-parts
[07:40] <hara__> hello
[07:41] <dermitrius> _david, i let you have a shot, cigerrete brack :), i'll keep watch. gl
[07:41] <_david> dermitrius: ok cya
[07:41] <hara__> does anyone know how to get wine-apps to get machine real ip instead of 127.0.0.1?
[07:42] <coollink> have a good smoke:P
[07:42] <coollink> yes th eline is _part, i chagne for -part?
[07:42] <_david> coollink: yep
[07:42] <dermitrius> coollink aye i'll fill my lungs with tar good and proper :)
[07:42] <coollink> after? i launch xinit?
[07:42] <_david> coollink: yes
[07:43] <coollink> i have a black screen again.....
[07:43] <_david> coollink: mm not cool :), could you try ctrl-alt-backspace and than sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:44] <_david> coollink: that will restart the login deamon
[07:45] <coollink> ok, i done that, and i have a blackscreen again
[07:46] <_david> coollink: mm, than that wasn't the problem, too bad :)
[07:46] <coollink> yes:P
[07:46] <dermitrius> _david this is a good one ain't it
[07:47] <coollink> now i cannot do alt FX, or ctrl alt backspace
[07:47] <coollink> i reboot?
[07:47] <_david> coollink: no, you should be able to do ctrl-alt-f1
[07:48] <_david> coollink: to leave x you need ctrl-alt-f1 instead of just alt-f1
[07:48] <coollink> no, i doset work
[07:48] <coollink> my laptop screen seem off
[07:48] <coollink> like i have balckscreen
[07:48] <_david> coollink: mm, than it really locked up :) to savely reboot type ctrl-alt-del :)
[07:49] <coollink> lol, that doest work ...
[07:49] <_david> coollink: ok that it's really really really locked up, than you should reboot indeed..
[07:50] <coollink> i pressed the power up button, and linux turn me back into the console but he said restard Now,
[07:50] <coollink> the system wasten lock up
[07:50] <coollink> now kubuntu is loading
[07:50] <_david> coollink: owh, ok thats good..
[07:51] <_david> coollink: I think the problem is with your touchpad
[07:51] <coollink> touch pad?
[07:52] <dumkopf> anyone use ipw2200 drivers for centrino wireless?
[07:52] <coollink> i have a new probleme now,
[07:52] <coollink> i tink is becaus emy usb lkey is not in,
[07:52] <coollink> moutn file system failed
[07:52] <_david> dermitrius: sorry, missed your message, yeah this one really is hard to solve
[07:53] <dumkopf> unless it failed to mount root or proc or something important, boot should continue regardless of a failed mount
[07:53] <dermitrius> coollink that is the additional line in fstab, not required now :)
[07:53] <dermitrius> coollink sry about that :p
[07:53] <coollink> yes, that was i thinking
[07:53] <mnoir> anyone know why kubuntu recovery mode would mount the root fs readonly??
[07:54] <dumkopf> mnoir, it's a failsafe measure afaik
[07:54] <mnoir> mine doesnt - it makes it VERY hard to repair a system...
[07:54] <Rodni> so this happenes under kubuntu only?
[07:55] <Rodni> that dosent make sense. Why call it recovery then?
[07:55] <mnoir> this is happening on rodni's sys and it is getting in the way...
[07:55] <_david> mnoir: if you need to repait you best use a livecd
[07:55] <Rodni> I have Kubuntu live
[07:56] <coollink> i think i should Reinstall my linux distrib,
[07:56] <mnoir> ok - we can do that - whatta pita
[07:56] <dumkopf> no.  it's a general failsafe to keep you from corrupting the filesystem accidentally.
[07:56] <coollink> i cant even more go to the console, ctral alt backspace dosent work
[07:56] <mnoir> bach to the help
[07:56] <dumkopf> you should be able to remount it rw, shouldn't you?
[07:56] <coollink> ctral alt fx not work to
[07:56] <coollink> i still on a black screen
[07:57] <mnoir> rodni - i'm back in yer channel
[07:57] <Rodni> oh yeah :P
[07:58] <dermitrius> coollink so after boot no kde login screen and not able to switch console, don't soung good
[07:58] <dumkopf> cat /etc/mtab will tell you how it's mounted.  mount -w will mount the fs rw
[07:58] <Snake__> Man there are no good kopete styles
[07:58] <_david> coollink: I don't know something else to try, I think the problem is something with X and your touchpad, sorry that we couldn't solve it
[07:59] <coollink> its ok,
[07:59] <mister_roboto> What is the easiest way to upgrade breezy to dapper? can i just "s/breezy/dapper/g" in my sources.list?
[07:59] <coollink> yes dermitrius, thats th eprobleme now
[07:59] <_david> Snake__: it will have in the future :) http://matt.rogers.name/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi/KDE/kopete_0.12.html
[07:59] <coollink> but i will reinstal linux for check if it will work
[07:59] <coollink> youve don well to help me, thxc
[07:59] <_david> coollink: ok, I'm leaving now, hope you will get it running :) cya
[08:00] <coollink> perhaps we talk about that later,
[08:00] <coollink> yes thx agin, i have to leave too
[08:00] <dumkopf> mister_roboto: i ghosted my drive and performed a clean install.  i've yet to do a dist-upgrade across distribution versions without breaking at least a dozen things
[08:00] <coollink> have a nic eday! guys
[08:00] <dermitrius> coollink i guess there are three choices, reinstall breezy, switch to dapper and see if it is fixed there or try the linux laptop help site
[08:00] <dermitrius> coollink bb
[08:01] <coollink> thank, bybye
[08:01] <DevGet> Is there any howto for get Xgl work with kubuntu dapper?
[08:01] <dermitrius> coollink not sure what the url for that site though, sry
[08:01] <dermitrius> coollink sry we couldn't sort it
[08:01] <KarnaK> !chroot
[08:01] <ubotu> I heard chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[08:02] <coollink> it ok, i have to go now, thx again  ciya
[08:03] <KarnaK> Snake_: i had the rar file in /usr/bin but its owner is root how do i change that?
[08:03] <dermitrius> _david its a shame hey, that was a hard one, i wish him goodluck in getting it sorted
[08:04] <Snake__> KarnaK: Im not really sure...but you could do "chmod 777" to give you, and everyone else full access
[08:04] <dermitrius> opps he is gone :)
[08:04] <dermitrius> bye all
[08:04] <Snake__> cya dermitrius
[08:04] <KarnaK> Snake_: ok is it "chmod 777 rar" then??
[08:04] <Snake__> KarnaK: sudo chmod 777 <file here>
[08:05] <Donvinzk> hi, I use kubuntu, but I ca not have double click working in gtk apps
[08:05] <KarnaK> Snake_: hehe now i get :/usr/bin/rar": the file exists
[08:05] <Snake__> wtf?
[08:05] <Snake__> rofl
[08:06] <Snake__> man I have no idea....I dunno much about rars and whatnot
[08:06] <KarnaK> Snake_: ok ill keep trying. Thanks anyway
[08:06] <Snake__> Yep
[08:07] <Feldon> I added the src "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to adept and did a full upgrade.  After restarting I added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main" and did another full upgrade.  After restarting, though, I still have 3 packages listed as upgradeable, but when I hit Full Upgrade none of them are upgraded.  Did I do something wrong?
[08:09] <sebastian> guys
[08:09] <sebastian> why is cd burning not working in ubuntu?
[08:10] <grim76> sebastian: are you getting some kind of error when you go to burn a disc you need to be more specific if possible.
[08:12] <sebastian> 3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.
[08:12] <sebastian> 3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.
[08:12] <grim76> Did you try running k3b as root to see if it give you the same error?
[08:14] <sebastian> yea, im running  it as root
[08:15] <grim76> Do you happen to be burning the disc on the fly?
[08:16] <sebastian> yes
[08:16] <grim76> try it without burning on the fly and see if it works.
[08:17] <sebastian> ok
[08:18] <grim76> A quick google shows that there are several people across distros that are having the same problem you are and it has been bug reported back to K3b as near as I can tell.
[08:19] <Feldon> is there a reason why after adding the kde351 source, doing a 'fetch updates' (which results in 68 upgradeable packages), doing a full upgrade and then commit changes, that I would still have 3 upgradeable pacakges that Full Upgrade/Commit Changes won't install?
[08:19] <sebastian> well..im having a similar problem in gnomebaker/serpentine
[08:20] <sebastian> i was able to burn cd's in ubuntu before
[08:20] <grim76> hmmm not sure then.  Let me dig some more.
[08:20] <sebastian> i have no clue
[08:20] <shawn_home> Do we have a desktop recording tool for KDE?
[08:20] <shawn_home> xvidcap/gvidcap aren't in Dapper yet (dependency wait)
[08:22] <sebastian> some more info:
[08:22] <sebastian> /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
[08:22] <sebastian> /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
[08:22] <sebastian> /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
[08:22] <sebastian> Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[08:23] <grim76> Please use pastebin for posting multiple lines
[08:23] <sebastian> same thing happens with on-the-fly disabled
[08:23] <sebastian> k, sorry
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[08:29] <Tm_T> Nirvana: krhm
[08:29] <Nirvana> ?
[08:30] <Tm_T> don't spam to channel
[08:30] <Nirvana> ahh..lol
[08:31] <_tijn> wtf?
[08:32] <_tijn> ah tumbleweed :D
[08:32] <sorush20> when Is kmplayer comming on ?
[08:33] <_tijn> cool, will there be a kmplayer?
[08:34] <Nirvana> kmplayer: you mean the pkg?
[08:34] <Nirvana> there used to be one on the download page
[08:34] <sebastian> k, i'm desperate, gonna try graveman
[08:35] <_tijn> mmh any way to speed up kubuntu?
[08:35] <_tijn> got some wierd stuff going on
[08:36] <PaloDeQueso> How's flight 4 of dapper, and does xgl work?
[08:36] <_tijn> iam downloading files on my 11mbit wireless from my internal network, (100mbit) and i only get 667 kb/s
[08:37] <_tijn> when i do a mount -a (with nfs shares in fstab) it takes 10 min!
[08:38] <sorush20> how do you guys fix this checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021) and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[08:39] <sebastian> graveman is not downloading, can someone gimme a direct link?
[08:39] <sorush20> anyone here want a gmail account?
[08:40] <Plouj> humm
[08:40] <PaloDeQueso> How's flight 4 of dapper, and does xgl work?
[08:40] <sebastian> graveman is not downloading, can someone gimme a direct link?
[08:40] <Plouj> LILO refuses to install into the ubuntu partition, and I can't install it into MBR for personal reasons
[08:41] <PaloDeQueso> with your qt error, install apt-file with apt-get, then do apt-file update, and then search for the specific library, like libqt3* with apt-file search (file)
[08:41] <PaloDeQueso> :)
[08:44] <Donvinzk> When I try to delete a directory on a usb hard driev, I get an error saying that the trash protocol is unbable to create directories
[08:45] <dumkopf> put "user" as an option in fstab, for mounting it.
[08:45] <Donvinzk> dumkopf: it is not a problem of rights, I can add, delete files, but not delete a directory
[08:46] <Donvinzk> I guess kde is trying to create a .trash directory
[08:46] <Donvinzk> but I do not want any .trash on a usb key, is it possible to setup this ?
[08:46] <neoncode> Hey is it possible to connect to an Xserver on a remote machene via a LAN that does not have a monitor/keyboard/mouse and use the computer your connecting though to controll the one your conected to..?
[08:46] <dumkopf> shift-delete will let you delete files and not have them hit the trashcan
[08:47] <neoncode> Oh wait, I think google turned up something...
[08:47] <dumkopf> neoncode: you're interested in vncserver
[08:48] <angasule> 41C :( thank the lords of kobol for liquid cooling!
[08:51] <dumkopf> angasule: the next step is actively cooling the radiator with dry ice ;)
[08:51] <angasule> actually, I'm drinking cold water
[08:51] <Donvinzk> dumkopf: is the problem I am facing something uusual, or did I missed something ?
[08:52] <dumkopf> bah!  liquid cooling is a misleading term when you're in a linux channel
[08:52] <angasule> hahaha I love misleading people :P
[08:52] <dumkopf> Donvinzk: the only problem you're having is that K can't create a directory for .trash?
[08:53] <Donvinzk> yes
[08:54] <dumkopf> well, given that it's a USB stick, and you don't want trash on it anywat, I'd just shift-delete instead of regular delete.  it may be a problem that the specific process that K is using to create the directory doesn't have the rights to do so
[08:54] <dumkopf> what's your mtab got to say about it?
[08:54] <_macke> !rar
[08:54] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:58] <_macke> I cant get unrar to work in ark, any tips??
[08:58] <dumkopf> Donvinzk: you should see something in your mtab to the tune of "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 vfat rw,user 0 0"
[09:01] <Donvinzk> dumkopf: /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[09:01] <Donvinzk> and, /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[09:02] <_macke> i get this: ln: "/usr/bin/rar": the file exists" when i run "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar /usr/bin/rar"
[09:02] <dumkopf> Donvinzk: has it got "user" as an option in your fstab?
[09:03] <Donvinzk> it has nothing in my fstab since it is automoyunted
[09:03] <dumkopf> aah.  hm.
[09:03] <Donvinzk> I just have my hda and hdc in the fstab
[09:03] <dumkopf> i was having a very similar problem with my ipod until I gave up and wrote udev rules to handle it
[09:04] <Donvinzk> dumkopf: I have an ipod too ;-)
[09:05] <dumkopf> Donvinzk: if you try to create directory on your usb keydrive yourself, do you get an error?
[09:05] <Donvinzk> but I will manage it with gtkpod
[09:05] <Donvinzk> no
[09:05] <dumkopf> that's weird.  even if it's named .trash?
[09:05] <Donvinzk> just when I try to trash what I created
[09:05] <Donvinzk> no error creating .trash
[09:06] <Voodoo_Vibe> anyone who has the time to help me??
[09:07] <Donvinzk> dumkopf: when I will have more time I will create udev rules too, it is far more efficient, and it seems simple
[09:08] <Donvinzk> and in my gtk apps, if I double click, nothing happen, for example if I want to highlight text, do you have any idea on this ?
[09:09] <Donvinzk> I come back in a minute
[09:09] <MrDez> voodoo: whats up?
[09:10] <MrDez> is Konversation based on xchat?
[09:10] <Voodoo_Vibe> MrDez: im trying to install rar support, but cant get it to work
[09:10] <MrDez> ah
[09:11] <MrDez> did u use the automatix script to install it?
[09:11] <Voodoo_Vibe> ive downloaded unrar-free and run the command i get when typing !rar but no luck
[09:11] <Voodoo_Vibe> automatix??
[09:11] <MrDez> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&highlight=automatix
[09:11] <MrDez> installed just about everything u'll need on ubuntu
[09:12] <MrDez> make sure u dont have synaptic open when u run it
[09:12] <MrDez> it will give you a full menu of things to install
[09:12] <Voodoo_Vibe> MrDez: ok, Thanks, will try it!
[09:12] <MrDez> nice part it it configures everything 'right' for you
[09:15] <ccc_> !automatix
[09:15] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:15] <Voodoo_Vibe> MrDez: cant do this one; wget http://beerorkid.com/automatix/automatix_5.4-3_i386.deb    I get connection denied
[09:15] <ccc_> don't use automatix...
[09:15] <MrDez> use sudo
[09:15] <MrDez> why not ccc
[09:16] <ccc_> MrDez: read ubotu 5 lines up.
[09:16] <Voodoo_Vibe> MrDez: doesnt help with sudoo
[09:16] <Voodoo_Vibe> sudo*
[09:16] <MrDez> oh
[09:16] <MrDez> hmm
[09:18] <MrDez> ccc: havent had a single problem yet, deployed it on 14 machines so far
[09:19] <Rodni> :)
[09:19] <MrDez> and im comfortable with cli and editing conf files
[09:20] <ccc_> MrDez: well, it has messed up numerous systems. it's a bad hack.
[09:20] <ccc_> !easyubuntu
[09:20] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[09:20] <ccc_> i'd rather go with easyubuntu... or learn how to do things the "proper" way. it's not that hard :)
[09:22] <ccc_> and definitely worth the effort.
[09:22] <neoncode> Hey if i built a DMZ, if a computer is connected to the outer part of it, can it become part of the inner LAN safely?
[09:22] <dumkopf> right.  once you learn the tricks, you can sit in this channel and help people who have the exact same problem as you :)
[09:22] <Nomad411> !java
[09:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:23] <Voodoo_Vibe> !sfv
[09:23] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Voodoo_Vibe
[09:24] <neoncode> No help?
[09:24] <mnoir> i have been working with Rodni to fix his os install but have run into a time problem and a problem I cannot explain
[09:24] <Voodoo_Vibe> !cfv
[09:24] <ubotu> Voodoo_Vibe: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:24] <Voodoo_Vibe> !cksfv
[09:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Voodoo_Vibe
[09:24] <mister_roboto> neoncode: depends on what you mean by "become part of the inner lan"   the idea is to only allow certain, well-defined paths into the inner lan
[09:25] <mnoir> in the kubuntu install, we are doing manual partition to preserve his /home
[09:25] <mnoir> but the install is not allowing a finish and rewrite of the partition table.
[09:25] <unix_infidel> hey guys, anyone know why fonts are so much larger, gvim, gaim, kicker, konqueror, etc when i use startx as opposed to kdm?
[09:25] <mnoir> someone want to try to help him figure out why?
[09:28] <neoncode> mister_roboto: well, as far as I know a DMZ has an untursed outer zone and a trusted inner one. My problem is that some of my computers connect wirelessly to my netgear router. witch is also my internect connetion. so some computers must be part of the untruseted zone. but I want some of those wireless computers to be part of the trusted zone. is it possible to set it up so that those computers are seen to be truseted and not com
[09:28] <neoncode> /firewall between the zones?
[09:28] <mnoir> Rodni: so long for now....
[09:29] <mister_roboto> neoncode: look at this   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demilitarized_zone_(computing)
[09:29] <Voodoo_Vibe> Is there any program so i can unrar my files in the shell
[09:29] <ccc_> Voodoo_Vibe: i use unrar-nonfree
[09:30] <Voodoo_Vibe> ccc_:yeah i cant get it working
[09:30] <neoncode> mister_roboto: i'm still confuzed... so is their a way?
[09:30] <ccc_> Voodoo_Vibe: unrar-nonfree supports newer versions of rar than unrar-free iirc.
[09:31] <Rodni> well guys, anyone wants to tell me why when I partition manually and click on finish to continue with installation, it reloads the same partition screen again.
[09:31] <johnny06> how can i install conky on debian sarge
[09:31] <ccc_> Voodoo_Vibe: unrar x file.rar
[09:31] <Rodni> I thinks its unhappy with my selections
[09:31] <Voodoo_Vibe> ccc_: Can i copy the unrar file into the dir with the rars and type something like " unrar myfile.rar" ???
[09:31] <mister_roboto> neoncode: not with the setup you describe wherein some of your wireless computers are trusted, some not, and the wireless router going right to the internet connection
[09:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> ccc_: ok, Thanks
[09:32] <johnny06> i am trying apt-get install conky & it's not there
[09:32] <ccc_> Voodoo_Vibe: no, you don't need to do that. :)
[09:32] <neoncode> mister_roboto: Well actualy all wireless computers I have(all 2 of them) should be trusted... but with the wireless and the internet in the same box... nar...
[09:32] <mister_roboto> neoncode: if you can't understand taht wikipedia link, then i doubt you'll get it right
[09:33] <Voodoo_Vibe> ccc_: i only get command not found
[09:33] <mister_roboto> neoncode: you need a firewall between the DMZ and your trusted lan exposing only some ports into your trusted lan
[09:33] <neoncode> mister_roboto: No I can understand it. I was just wondering if that was possible..
[09:33] <ccc_> Voodoo_Vibe: then it's not installed... if you want unrar-nonfree, type: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[09:34] <Voodoo_Vibe> ccc_: ive done that
[09:35] <mister_roboto> neoncode: so you want to have one of the wireless computers be the DMZ?
[09:36] <kaze> hello i have a problem with anjuta and gcc can you help me?
[09:36] <kosh> hehe wireless and security
[09:36] <kosh> I guess that is like worrying about fire safety when you are in the middle of a forest fire ;)
[09:36] <mister_roboto> kosh  :)
[09:36] <neoncode> Ahh nevermind. I was trying to find a use for some old computers I have. I'll just build a beowulf cluster..
[09:37] <mister_roboto> neoncode: you could use one of those old computers as a firewall  :)
[09:38] <neoncode> mister_roboto: to protect what?
[09:39] <mister_roboto> your lan from your wireless router connections, for example
[09:40] <neoncode> will anyone ever develop decent security for wireless?
[09:40] <mister_roboto> neoncode: maybe :)
[09:41] <unix_infidel> anyone with any idea bout my problem here, after i started using startx instead of kdm to log into fluxbox i've gotten somethings to work yet all my fonts in various other apps in fluxbox arent anti-alias....
[09:44] <Rodni> Can you tell me one thing. Is there a CD writing application on the Kubuntu Live CD?
[09:45] <kosh> k3b probably
[09:46] <Rodni> that would be great for the job I need
[10:02] <Rodni> Ok the good news is there is k3b in the live CD version. However, how do I access my /home folder using a live cd?
[10:02] <Rodni> Is that possible somehow?
[10:04] <ccc_> Rodni: a hard drive? yes, if it's mounted. it's hopefully automounted at boot up.
[10:04] <brodel> I'd say it is.. but I don't know how to tell you
[10:04] <Rodni> it is mounted I can see it but how to access trough konqueror?
[10:05] <ccc_> i guess kubuntu mounts it in /mnt
[10:06] <FlakJacket> you can also see stuff in /media can't you?
[10:07] <FlakJacket> srry if that's old but i just got back
[10:08] <Rodni> aaaah fuck yeah!
[10:08] <Rodni> 3 hours of kubuntu and I finally done it
[10:09] <howcomes> Anyone running Fluxbox ?
[10:09] <unix_infidel> hey, ok, i've got all my X and font issues taken care of on my own with some startx manip, and some help from the guys in #kde
[10:09] <howcomes> i've decided to give it a go
[10:10] <unix_infidel> however, now i have a problem with how cpufreq just randomly changes governors when i plug in my AC adapter and when i close the lid and such.
[10:10] <unix_infidel> did ubuntu guys just randomly make acpi rules for this stuff on laptops
[10:10] <unix_infidel> howcomes: i'm running fluxbox, what's up?
[10:12] <Mindwork> hi from Kubuntu on an iBook
[10:14] <howcomes> infidel, was just wondering
[10:15] <Nirvana> How do you set up a network bridge in Win2000 (or ubuntu, whichever)
[10:15] <_evil_h_> i need help! installing java is driving me up the wall. i have followed every HOWTO i can find and i get the same error with every one when i try to install (says that it can't find the package). all repos are active so whats the deal?
[10:16] <Nirvana> is it called connection sharing?
[10:16] <Nirvana> _evil_h_: isn't java in the repos?
[10:17] <_evil_h_> i thought so but it dont work i guess. ive installed them but java dont work
[10:18] <Nirvana> I have sun-j2re1.5 -> is that  what you'd like?
[10:18] <_evil_h_> nirvana: yeah
[10:19] <Nirvana> and you don't have it?
[10:19] <Nirvana> one sec...
[10:19] <_evil_h_> i downloaded the .bin file but whenever i try to install through Konsole get the same error
[10:22] <Nirvana> _evil_h_: I'll paste my sources.list in pastebin. Backup yours (sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup) and overwrite it with mine: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/563305
[10:23] <_evil_h_> nirvana: thanks ill give that a try
[10:28] <howcomes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133128
[10:37] <snoozix> does one use "karamba"? if so, what are those .theme files? i found a .skz - is this what i want?
[10:45] <unix_infidel> hey guys, how does kubuntu manage cpu scaling with pM chips
[10:45] <_evil_h_> i dunno
[10:45] <unix_infidel> for some reason it always changes governors on me whenever i'm on or off ac adapter, close lid and such.
[10:46] <_evil_h_> i just turned ACPI off
[10:46] <unix_infidel> i'm trying to use manual cpufreq
[10:46] <unix_infidel> _evil_h_: has nothing to do with acpi.
[10:46] <unix_infidel> anyone else who knows what they're talking about :P
[10:46] <_evil_h_> sorry. too much coffee and not enough sleep makes raymond a dumb boy
[10:56] <_evil_h_> any recommendations on what program in the repos to use for a vnc server?
[10:57] <snoozix> there are many :)
[10:58] <snoozix> so
[10:58] <snoozix> i used tightvnc
[10:58] <snoozix> but it's really years ago.
[10:58] <_evil_h_> hmm
[10:58] <snoozix> 4 years or so.
[10:58] <_evil_h_> guess ill just install one at a time and test it see which one i like better
[10:58] <snoozix> why not :)
[10:58] <snoozix> freedom of choice.
[10:59] <_evil_h_> :)
[10:59] <snoozix> uhm
[10:59] <snoozix> i wanted to ask something, but now i forgot what.
[11:00] <snoozix> ah right, i got kde with twinview and when i got the window on the monitor without panels i can not move the window to the very upper/lower border because kde thinks there is a panel which shouldn't be covered.
[11:00] <snoozix> but it's insane because the panel is on the other desktop.
[11:00] <Crowbar> Has anyone been having issues with konqueror freezing for several seconds each time you select a text box to type in? including the location bar?
[11:01] <snoozix> an alternative would be to put same-heighted panels on both monitors, but i think that would be a mad workaround.
[11:01] <snoozix> Crowbar: me not *shrug*
[11:01] <Crowbar> Sucks for me then.  It's starting to drive me insane and i might have to reinstall to fix it.
[11:01] <_evil_h_> Crowbar: on occasion but i think its just cause my laptop aint the greatest
[11:01] <snoozix> Crowbar: sounds bad.
[11:02] <snoozix> who's using an mp3 player (usb) with (k)ubuntu? i need help :)
[11:03] <Crowbar> _evil_h_: This just started happening recently.  I have no idea what could be causing.  Didn't update anything or change any settings.  It is definitely freezing up every time I put the cursor in one.
[11:03] <tuxedup> what type snoozix, one thats recognised as a external storage or needing some particular software to access it?
[11:04] <snoozix> tuxedup: just quite a normal usb mass storage player with usb 2.0. it works and i can transfer songs to it. that's not the problem.
[11:04] <snoozix> tuxedup: i'll paste the fstab entry and complete my question, mom.
[11:04] <snoozix> /dev/sdb1       /mnt/mp3player  vfat   user,uid=1000,gid=1000,sync
[11:04] <snoozix> this is how i got it.
[11:05] <snoozix> but it's not really synced and sometimes songs are incomplete and i don't know why.
[11:05] <snoozix> and i only can copy stuff via mc or console, konqueror won't really work.
[11:05] <snoozix> and i want such a beautiful device icon for it on my desktop to mount/umount it!
[11:06] <howcomes> 4) logout and login using failsafe xterm session
[11:06] <howcomes> what does that mean?
[11:06] <tuxedup> just create a link to it on the desktop then right clck the link and chnage the icon thats how i have mine
[11:06] <howcomes> i understand what logout/in is, but what is a failsafe xterm session
[11:07] <snoozix> howcomes: an xterm
[11:07] <snoozix> howcomes: instead of gnome/kde/whatever.
[11:07] <howcomes> hmm
[11:07] <snoozix> tuxedup: i would like something rightclickable where i can select "mount"
[11:08] <Crowbar> howcomes: Nothing is loaded except an xterm window.  No window manager or support programs.  It's for recovering from a misconfiguration.  or running a game sometimes if you want all the resources you can get.
[11:08] <tuxedup> it does for me
[11:08] <howcomes> how do i go about logging in using this method
[11:08] <tuxedup> if you double clikc the link it moutns it for me
[11:08] <tuxedup> and right clikc has moputn and unmount s well
[11:08] <howcomes> i dont remember seeing it in my GRUB list, but it might be there just have looked hard enough
[11:12] <tuxedup> will gaim 2.0 have video and voice does anyone know?
[11:15] <jc-denton> hi all
[11:15] <_evil_h_> hola
[11:15] <jc-denton> how do i get kde 3.5.1 in breezy
[11:16] <bimberi> !kde3.5.1
[11:16] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[11:16] <bimberi> jc-denton: hi, ^^^^ is for you :)
[11:16] <jc-denton> thx :)
[11:16] <bimberi> np :)
[11:16] <jc-denton> i was on the kubuntu site, but could not find it
[11:17] <jc-denton> ah
[11:17] <jc-denton> i had deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <jarlath_> There are still a few dependency problems with kde3.5.1 arent there? I dont think I could install kmail when I upgraded to 3.5.1
[11:17] <jc-denton> note the missing 1 after 35
[11:20] <coollink> hi, can someone tell me if i can install linux on an other partition than windows, and keep my windows partition working, like on boot i can choose between windwos or linux
[11:21] <jarlath_> coollink, yes you can.
[11:21] <gstevens> Hi, I'm trying to get my TV card working. When I run XAWTV, it says: "can't open /dev/video0: No such device"
[11:21] <gstevens> what can I do?
[11:22] <jarlath_> coollink: I havent done it myself with kubuntu because I dont use windows, but I know its possible.
[11:22] <coollink> ok nice, i have already a windows partition, and i have a free 40 gb partition for linux and is swap, with the latest kubuntu dvd bootable, how can i do this?
[11:22] <gstevens> My tv card is Internext CX23416
[11:22] <_evil_h_> !dualboot
[11:22] <bimberi> coollink: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[11:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[11:22] <bimberi> _evil_h_: :)
[11:22] <_evil_h_> coollink: ^^^
[11:22] <coollink> oh, thx guys
[11:22] <coollink> i will check that
[11:23] <_evil_h_> coollink: it works too i have two computers with Kubuntu and Windows dual booted
[11:24] <_evil_h_> !RealVNC
[11:24] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _evil_h_
[11:29] <jc-denton> i saw some kind of preview sidebar in konqueror 3.5.1
[11:29] <jc-denton> how can i get that?
[11:29] <jc-denton> i mean where do i need to click
[11:29] <coollink> when i boot on the kubuntu DVD i have 2 option, press enter and go on live DVD or doing install  enter, what is the corect way for instal kubuntu for the dual boot?
[11:30] <jarlath_> jc-denton: F9?
[11:30] <jc-denton> yes but i only see the sidebars that i had when using 3.5.0
[11:31] <jarlath_> oh, okay. I dont know then.
[11:31] <_evil_h_> coollink: install. going to LiveCD is not going to install its just going to run Kubuntu off the DVD
[11:31] <coollink> ok, and if i already on live dvd, can i jsut restart and doing the install without affected my windows partition?
[11:32] <jarlath_> coollink: you need to be careful that you dont delete your windows partition when installing.
[11:32] <coollink> yes
[11:33] <_evil_h_> yeah i highly recommend making sure everything on your windows partition is backed up just in case
[11:34] <coollink> ok thx
[11:38] <jc-denton> lol
[11:38] <_evil_h_> i dont use bluetooth so is it safe to remove it from my system or does something non- bluetooth related use it?
[11:38] <jc-denton> i have to install metabar of course
[11:44] <jarlath_> jc-denton: what is metabar?
[11:45] <jc-denton> a bar with preview and stuff for konqueror
[11:45] <jc-denton> apt-get install metabar
[11:45] <jarlath_> cool, ill try it :) thanks.
[11:45] <jc-denton> if ur interested
[11:55] <slow-motion> n8