[02:12] <crimsun> mjg59: ok, thanks
[02:13] <mjg59> crimsun: So it's not PCI configuration space, and it's not an AC97 register issue, so...
[05:01] <doko> BenC: is the mISDN update missing in the last kernel upload?
[05:02] <BenC> yeah, I needed to get some important fixes out, and mISDN merge isn't trivial
[07:27] <psusi> I'm trying to learn git since it's used by the kernel... am I correct in understanding that it stores copies of every version of a given file, rather than diffs?  so it's going to use a LOT of space?
[09:32] <infinity> BenC: Around?
[09:32] <infinity>   AS [x]    drivers/macintosh/mol/_actions.o
[09:32] <infinity> /bin/sh: m4: command not found
[09:32] <infinity> make[5] : *** [drivers/macintosh/mol/_actions.o]  Error 127
[09:32] <infinity> BenC: From the powerpc kernel build --^
[09:33] <Mithrandir> hi infinity 
[09:34] <fabbione> doh
[02:23] <Lathiat> hrm
[02:23] <Lathiat> the kernel is being built with gcc4 now?
[02:47] <makx> default since long afaik
[03:24] <Lathiat> makx: ah ok
[03:24] <Lathiat> additionally, anyone know off hand if there is a reason IPVS is not compiled in the kernel
[03:25] <mjg59> Lathiat: Any joy with your battery?
[03:25] <Lathiat> mjg59: havent tried yet
[03:25] <Lathiat> you said i needed git?
[03:25] <mjg59> Yeah
[03:25] <Lathiat> i'll do it tomorrow night
[03:25] <Lathiat> dont have time tonight
[03:25] <Lathiat> unles its in a daily build in the topic?
[03:31] <fabbione> Feb 19 15:18:53 gordian kernel: [4294677.139000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
[03:31] <fabbione> Feb 19 15:18:53 gordian kernel: [4294677.139000]      ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
[03:31] <fabbione> GO IDE-GENERIC!
[03:32] <fabbione> BenC: ok.. now i got DMA/32bit I/O and unmasked irq
[03:32] <fabbione> gonna check the system status on load now
[03:33] <fabbione> yup that was it :)
[03:33] <fabbione> i can finally move the mouse again when doing apt-get install
[04:19] <BenC> fabbione: so it was ide-generic?
[04:19] <fabbione> so it seems
[04:19] <fabbione> now.. i would like to have a word with Scott
[04:19] <BenC> yeah, that is definitely a udev issue, probably the same one I see in another bug report
[04:20] <BenC> I think udev has a well disguised race or ordering problem
[04:20] <fabbione> probably..
[04:20] <fabbione> udev is a problem
[05:11] <BenC> is there a cmdline util that can trunc() a file?
[05:12] <BenC> just don't want to dd 4gigs to get rid of 900Megs on a cd image
[05:12] <Mithrandir> :>$file ?
[05:12] <BenC> I want to trunc it to 4gigs, not 0 :P
[05:13] <BenC> Mithrandir: any progress with mksquashfs3?
[05:13] <Mithrandir> use dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1G seek=4 count=0 ?
[05:13] <Mithrandir> no, haven't had time, I was busy with random other crap on friday
[05:16] <BenC> Mithrandir: sweet, that command worked perfect
[05:16] <BenC> thanks
[05:16] <Mithrandir> it's a sparse file, but I assumed that was what you wanted.
[05:51] <visik7> I can't understand how the ubuntu kernel works, it's heavily different from a vanilla kernel
[05:59] <visik7> anyone can explain me it ?
[06:39] <mjg59> visik7: What do you mean by "Heavily different"?
[06:39] <visik7> for example it check if gcc is 3.4
[06:39] <visik7> vanilla kernels doesn't do it
[06:40] <mjg59> Sorry, what checks if gcc is 3.4?
[06:40] <visik7> make 
[06:41] <mjg59> When?
[06:41] <visik7> wait a moment
[06:43] <visik7> removed kernel tree for erro
[06:44] <visik7> I need some time to redownload it
[07:01] <visik7> here I'm
[07:02] <visik7> http://pastebin.com/562971
[07:02] <visik7> here
[07:02] <visik7> says gcc-3.4 not found
[07:03] <visik7> why check if gcc-3.4 is present ?
[07:03] <visik7> a 2.6.15.4 works perfectly with gcc 4
[07:04] <visik7> and make menuconfig of this source is quite different from a 2.6.12 vanilla (I know that there are patches)  
[07:13] <visik7> I know that there are patches but I don't understand why networking options is inside device drivers -> network support like old 2.4 kernels 
[07:22] <visik7> and why there are so many way to get kernel source ?
[07:22] <visik7> linux-source-2.6.12
[07:22] <visik7> linux-tree-2.6.12-10.28
[07:23] <visik7> apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12-10...
[07:23] <visik7> things aren't so clear
[07:26] <mjg59> Because 2.6.12 didn't work properly with gcc 4
[07:27] <visik7> your or the vanilla ?
[07:27] <mjg59> Any
[07:27] <mjg59> Not on all the architectures we support
[07:27] <visik7> oh
[07:27] <visik7> ok
[07:27] <mjg59> 2.6.15 is built with gcc 4
[07:43] <rysk> hello,
[07:46] <rysk> I wonder what's that chan is for ? I mean what's mean "ubuntu kernel discussion ONLY". If I'm coding a driver under ubuntu (while it's just a linux driver anyway) is that part of the subject ?
[07:51] <mjg59> rysk: It's more for development of the Ubuntu kernel rather than kernel development under Ubuntu (if you see what I mean)
[07:51] <mjg59> No harm in asking here, though, the worst that can happen is that you'll be ignored :)
[07:54] <rysk> ok :) I'm just trying to get my graphical tablet working. Since it's recognized as an usb mouse, the driver i've made don't get to handle the tablet unless i'm forcefully unload the usbhid module. Well if anyone knows enough to tell me what to do i will be pleased to hear it :)
[07:54] <mjg59> Hm. It identifies as a mouse?
[07:55] <rysk> yeah, that's actually quite strange because the data sent by the tablet is not at the same format of the ones sent by a mouse
[07:56] <rysk> but the hid interface protocol is set to 2 (mouse)
[08:03] <mjg59> Sounds like the hardware is broken...
[08:04] <mjg59> Might be possible to add a quirk to the mouse driver to refuse to bind to it
[08:05] <rysk> well actually i was more thinking of detaching the mouse driver from it
[08:05] <mjg59> If the mouse driver can't drive it, it's better for it never to bind it
[08:05] <rysk> The hardware isn't broken. I guess it's just the vendor who said "Oh, yes, we use it like a mouse so it's a mouse !"
[08:06] <rysk> well that's true
[08:06] <mjg59> Stuff that claims to be a mouse ought to speak the mouse protocol
[08:06] <rysk> actually it implements a very close protocol
[08:07] <rysk> but since it absolute position and not relative position and it's have a pressure intensity, it's just put more info in the message
[08:07] <rysk> Also that's fun because it doesn't reply to any input report asking. It's just said "TABLET"
[08:08] <rysk> I bet it speaks the mouse protocol for the version with a magnetic mouse
[08:10] <visik7> how can I compile only a module of the kernel without rerun all make modules that it's huge ?
[08:10] <mjg59> visik7: With 2.6.12? You can't.
[08:11] <rysk> make module.ko ?
[08:11] <mjg59> With newer kernels, just make patch/to/module.ko
[08:11] <visik7> :(
[08:11] <visik7> ok thanks
[08:14] <mjg59> rysk: Take a look at hid_blacklist in hid-core.c - best bet is probably just to add it to there, and then bind it with your driver
[08:15] <rysk> ok thanks
[08:16] <mjg59> You'll need to send that patch to LKML to get it added
[08:18] <rysk> yes, I need to make my tablet works fine before that :)
[09:28] <zul> wtf??!
[09:30] <zul> canada is down 2-0 in olympic hockey
[10:03] <damned|home> hi all. i'm trying to recompile dapper (2.6.15-15) kernel with standart config from source and get a error. am i able to get consultation here?