[12:04] bmonty: done, that feels really wierd === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] LaserJock: thanks...what is wierd about it? [12:07] bmonty: I'm not a "MOTU" yet ;-) [12:08] :) [12:11] tseng: the problem with that change for bug 31550 is that mjg59 does not really agree.... [12:11] malone bug 31550 in compiz "compiz package violate package policy" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31550 [12:12] hub: eh, "Feel free to apply and upload :)" [12:13] hub: doesnt agree that much [12:13] *disagree [12:13] okay [12:15] yeah, it sounded more to me that he didn't want to bother with it but you were free to do it [12:15] tseng: do you know how in an .install specify all but one file in a specific directory... [12:15] LaserJock: yeah. I just wanted to make sure [12:15] hub: you cant [12:15] :-/ [12:16] hub: you could rm it in rules before dh_install [12:16] dolson: here? [12:16] fbond: always [12:16] linuxsampler downloads don't seem to up, and haven't been the last several times I've checked [12:16] hub: or mv to the dir of another binary [12:16] do you have the source downloaded somewhere? [12:17] tseng: yeah. === lbm [n=lbm@130.225.243.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rcliii [n=rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] fbond: no.. I was talking to someone about it and they said to use CVS.. but uh, I think it's lame to have broken download links. I can have a look, because I thought I saw them all somewhere else though [12:18] i'll just do a CVS export, no biggie.... [12:18] but, any idea how stable CVS is right now? [12:18] brb [12:18] fbond: no idea.. looks like DeMuDi has linuxsampler in it, so you could just port it over from there, probably would save a lot of work [12:20] dolson: right === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] hmm, how's the UVF exception for libgmime/beagle going? [12:30] siretart, has DSSI been synced yet? === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lmanul [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] udev creates /dev/dsp at bootup, right? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:48] dolson: linuxsampler stuff is all Debian-native [12:48] :) [12:49] cvs exports debian/ dir [12:49] cool! [12:49] so you're doing the CVS then? [12:49] yes, i was having trouble locating any demudi sources [12:49] looks as though demudi currently only has binary packages available [12:49] yeah, I couldn't find them either... pretty strange [12:51] fbond: did you check through Debian too this time? :) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-38.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] yes [12:55] there is an ITP for qsampler from 2004 [12:55] but nothing mentioned about the other three packages that are crucial to linuxsampler [12:55] looks safe [12:56] liblscp is in ubuntu... is that something linuxsampler relies on? === fredix_ [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] fbond: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/linuxsampler/ [01:01] hm === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] Oh geez. ClamAV really gives a flying fit when it's one .01 revision old. :/ [01:03] dolson: yes, linuxsampler includes libgig and liblscp, both in dapper already [01:03] i wonder why those are there but not linuxsampler, qsampler? [01:03] fbond: not sure.. I noticed both of those before though.. so do we just need linuxsampler and qsampler and then we're good to go? [01:04] could someone tell me why dpkg says "Not replacing deleted config file ....."? [01:04] what can I do with this crappy error? [01:04] looks that way [01:04] I've been trying dpkg -i --force-confmiss but no result [01:04] Just out of curiosity, is ClamAV 0.88 going to be security-backported for breezy at all? [01:05] fbond: I can do qsampler if you wanna do linuxsampler? or the other way around [01:05] no [01:05] err [01:06] dolson: it won't take long to just whip them both up, since all the debian stuff is already there [01:06] i'll take care of it [01:06] fbond: well I can if you wanna do something more complex [01:06] oh ok [01:06] the only other thing i feel motivated to do is dssi-vst [01:06] then i'll be satisfied, fornow [01:06] I was considering om and omins [01:06] oh, right [01:06] is it hard to do libs? [01:07] not really harder than anything else, i don't think [01:07] fbond: have you seen this? http://www.ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Important_Audio_Software [01:09] interesting [01:09] how's dapper looking then? === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] dolson: when doing libraries, you usually split the package into two: libmylib and libmylib-dev [01:10] fbond: I'm running the report right now.. it doesn't pick up what we've put into revu, obviously [01:10] right [01:12] fbond: debian is missing 22 pkgs from the list, dapper is missing 28, all 6 of the ones debian has that dapper does not have been sync requested by you or I. compared to breezy, we're only 6 packages ahead, but with revu, that should put dapper way ahead [01:17] dolson: nice [01:18] fbond: yeah, and if the PAM patches actually do make it into dapper, we've won half (or a quarter at least) of the battle of user-friendliness [01:19] good [01:22] toma, BearPerson ? [01:22] Hmm, why is it in Kgpg, when I add a new userid to my key, it.. Sets the new userid as the default, rather than keeping the original identity as it is? === BearPerson looks in [01:24] dolson: looks like alsa-tools should be in dapper soon, it's currently waiting in NEW. You might want to take it off the WorkInProgress wiki page so somebody doesn't request it again. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] LaserJock: off the sync request page? sure [01:25] dolson: actually I moved the sync requests to w.u.c/MOTU/WorkInProgress [01:25] LaserJock: that includes alsa-tools-gui, correct? and is there a link where I can see NEW? [01:25] dolson: yes, and I dont think so [01:25] k [01:25] thanks === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] maybe the old page should be deleted [01:26] dolson: yeah, I'm going to redirect it to WorkInProgress for now === fbond is now known as fbond|away === cassidy [n=cassidy@133.174-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] fbond|away: fyi, I'm doing gmorgan now === fbond|away is now known as fbond === fbond is now known as fbond|away [01:38] hub: ping? [01:38] pong === arnieboy [n=arnieboy@68-68-100-80.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] Seveas just said on -devel that he was uploading a compiz that splits kde and gnome [01:39] hi arnieboy [01:40] seveas know I was working on that [01:40] hey LaserJock [01:40] :-/ [01:41] hub, I already started working on it before I spoke to you about it and thought it would be a waste of time not to finish it [01:41] okay [01:41] I filed the bug with the intent to fix it [01:41] let's compare patches [01:41] just that this week I was so jetlagged back that I didn't have time to work in the evening [01:41] okay [01:42] I have 5 binary pkg [01:42] I only have 3, mjg59 had specific objections against a -devel package [01:42] yeah [01:42] and I just follow the policy [01:43] as for the 5 is to make compiz a meta package [01:43] because otherwise it does not upgrade seemlessly [01:43] btw: I fixed nothing but the splitting - patches to remove CVS (and to correct the clean target) are still needed [01:43] I didn't do that either [01:43] it's dapper, seamless is not a requirement ;) [01:44] which version are you at? [01:44] because -5 is not right [01:44] neither is -4 === BearPerson [i=karsten@sourcemage/wizard/pdpc.sustaining.BearPerson] has left #ubuntu-motu ["this] [01:44] I bumped to -4ubuntu1 [01:44] i'm at -5 [01:44] since it is not in debian, it is wrong [01:44] IMHO === arnieboy [n=arnieboy@68-68-100-80.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:44] but I hope that when he switches to 0.0.3 it'll be 0.0.3-0ubuntu1 === gus__ [n=gus@r200-125-55-77-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] Seveas: your pacakge will have compiz/libgconf.so in both -gnome and compiz [01:57] no [01:57] look at evil hack in debian/rules [01:57] right below dh_install === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] wb minghua [02:01] hello LaserJock [02:02] Seveas: good catch [02:02] what is that "ls -R debian/tmp -a" doing? [02:02] ehm [02:03] being nonsense [02:03] was a debugging thing, forgot to remove === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] Seveas: do you need someone to upload the package? [02:09] I'm neither MOTU nor devel, so someone else should upload it (and change the changelog) [02:11] Seveas: ok [02:11] I'll do it then [02:13] dolson: I haven't [02:13] Seveas: with a few adjustements like the version [02:19] Seveas: I still don't understand what the ls -R is about [02:19] Seveas: in the rules [02:19] hub you should remove it [02:19] that's what I thought [02:19] I will [02:19] it was something I used for debugging and forgot to remove [02:20] and why these -a ? [02:21] standard practice for multi-binary sources, useful if you ever want to include an arch-independent one [02:21] ah right [03:08] ghawd [03:09] the compiz the diff is bigger than the orig.tar.gz [03:09] wtf? [03:10] is there any 'sed' guru here? [03:11] I have to change something in my package config file... [03:11] hub: holy cow, it looks like it is over twice the size. [03:11] LaserJock: yeah [03:12] I upload that fix, I'll see how I can reduce it. [03:12] looks like we have to run autogen :-/ === herzi [n=herzi@c153211.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] siretart: ping [03:35] wtf. all of these LADSPA plugins don't have anything for the copyright in their debian/copyright files :\ === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] LaserJock: on your sync requests, are those waiting for an MOTU to pass to elmo or are you asking him yourself? [03:51] bmonty: waiting for a MOTU [03:52] oh, that reminds me, could someone sync EasyChem (if not already) [03:54] hmm, I thought I told somebody about that but I can't really remember. Darn my stupid Alzheimers [03:54] LJ don't joke about that, my Grandpa died of Alzheimers [03:54] I'm pretty sure I asked for a sync of easychem === Kyral shrugs [03:54] I dunno [03:54] (sometimes it takes elmo a while) [03:55] I've had like 2^64 things flying around [03:55] Kyral: I'm not joking so much. I lost a few great grandparents to it. I do feel as if it is creeping up on me sometimes. [03:55] ah [03:55] that's just the price of being a grad student. [03:55] me? [03:55] true [03:55] I'm no grad student [03:55] I can't do simple arithmetic [03:56] I have to get my TI out for that [03:56] My Math Professor made a reference to LISP the other day and I was the only one who understood it [03:56] I pull out the Python Shell :D [03:56] LaserJock: the TI-85 is my favorite :) [03:57] ... [03:57] Grad school has given me serious organizational, memory, and focus problems :( [03:57] Walking away now [03:57] You are discussing preferred Calculator Models [03:57] Kyral: regarding anime [in -devel] : are you using mplayer? [03:57] bmonty: ohh, my wife has got an 85. I just bought a 84+ Silver edition [03:57] crimsun: no [03:57] I use Xine or VLC [03:57] Xine will play under Xgl, but the framerate is horrible [03:58] bmonty: I have a TI 92+ that I used on my cume exams ;-) [03:58] if you use Xgl+compiz, I think you want to use the x11 video output [03:58] I think I did [03:58] but its no biggy for me to switch back and forth === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] I really only keep Xgl around to impress my friends :D [03:58] with mplayer, I have to use -vo x11 -ao sdl -vfm=ffmpeg -lavdopts=lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all [03:59] Normally my Eyecandy of choice is Cairo + XCompmgr + Transset [03:59] Kyral: I'm pretty console bound so I try to impress my friends with screen, and syntax highlighting ;-) [03:59] LaserJock: not sure if you can buy the 85 any more, but I've had mine for about 10 years [03:59] the only person I have to show is my wife, and she doesn't care :( [04:00] yeah, the 86 supercedes the 85 [04:00] bmonty: no, you can't. I think only 86's [04:00] at least you have a wife ;P [04:00] you have Ubuntu, Chris, that's a wife in and of itself [04:00] lol [04:01] bmonty: yeah, I know the feeling. I tried to show my wife a brand new shinny Ubuntu iso when Breezy came out. She wasn't very impressed [04:01] I think the last time I mentioned Ubuntu to her I got a bunch of honey-dos to take care of [04:01] crimsun: more like wife + in-laws [04:01] hehe, true === Kyral blinks at the use of his Name === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] does syncing a package from unstable that doesn't exist in universe require a UVF exception? [04:02] Is it a new Upstream version? [04:02] bmonty: no, we have until Feature Freeze [04:03] Kyral: it is as far as ubuntu is concerned [04:03] which is in 5 days [04:03] LaserJock: ah, ok that makes sense [04:03] ....shit [04:03] Damnit I have like 2 packages to push through REVU [04:03] Kyral: hurry up, time for some all-nighters ;-) [04:03] When is the Documentation Freeze? [04:03] ~ March 23rd I think [04:04] Whew [04:04] yeah [04:04] so I have time to get that thing written [04:04] I've got a whole lot of Packaging Guide to do before then. [04:04] LJ I'll help you [04:04] It should get me SVN Access [04:05] If I get my homework done tomorrow during my lab hours I'll make some mods [04:05] lol, maybe you'll get it for dapper+1, that goes through elmo as well ;-) [04:05] Eh elmo is cool === Kyral recalls when sabdfl gave him permission to bug elmo for his @ubuntu.com [04:06] elmo is very cool, but also incredibly overworked, I think [04:06] Yah no kiddin... [04:08] anybody know how the deadlines work as far as when the cutoff is. If we make a request by FF or UVF for example does that mean it gets in? or is it just what gets in before the dealine is in? [04:09] if that makes any sense [04:09] the former, though for FF it's closer to the latter [04:10] many of my UVF sync requests weren't processed until post-UVF [04:10] looks like I have some legwork on REVU this weekend :) [04:11] hmm, I had at least one merge that didn't get through UVF but I'm just seeing how long it is currently taking stuff to get out of NEW and I'm somewhat worried about that. === bmontgom_ [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] boy, I'm looking forward to dapper+1 [04:18] can someone please tell me what group and permissions you have on /dev/dsp? [04:19] should be root:audio [04:19] (660) [04:20] crimsun: thats what I thought, I think udev is having issues with my ldap setup :( [04:20] I get root:root [04:21] ah, sounds like it's not hitting line 60 of /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules [04:23] crimsun: this is on breezy, I haven't converted my laptop yet (and I don't think I will) [04:23] ah [04:23] I think it is because ldap isn't available when udev sets the permissions and it can't look up the audio group [04:25] speaking of UVF, if one of my request gets approved, does that mean I still need to ask for the sync explicitly? [04:25] minghua: no, it will just happen [04:26] crimsun: great, thanks [04:26] lagtime between approval and actual sync is undefined :) === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] LaserJock: for biococoa.app, debian has updated the build-deps in their package? [04:36] bmonty: just a sec, let me look [04:38] bmonty: apparently it was a rebuild + some changes to man page + bump standards version [04:39] didn't gnustep go through a layout change in debian recently? [04:43] bmonty: http://pastebin.com/562187 is the diff between the Debian and Dapper versions if you care [04:43] LaserJock: I already downloaded the debian package, but thanks [04:48] bmonty: thanks for the requests. [04:48] no problem [04:55] damn, udev does not play nice with ldap :( [05:00] what is that package that adds a terminal to the right-click menu on the desktop? [05:03] bmonty: in gnome it's nautilus-open-terminal, I believe [05:03] minghua: thanks [05:04] brb === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === monzie [n=manish@220.226.78.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] hi all [05:19] hi again monzie [05:23] anyone know if I can specify group numbers to udev? [05:26] hi Lasq [05:26] Hi LaserJock === monzie [n=manish@220.226.78.23] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-9-18.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === desrt [n=desrt@dhcp-0-20-af-d2-7c-3.cpe.mountaincable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] the 3 lexmark upload on REVU should be nuked IMHO [05:51] see my comment in them === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] afternoon MOTUs and MOTU-hopefuls :D [05:54] hi zakame [05:54] hi zakame [05:55] hi zakame [05:56] heya bmonty dolson LaserJock :-) [05:56] zakame: I will have another pkg up in a few minutes :) [05:56] hub: agreed [05:57] dolson: rock on! :-) [05:57] I'm doing an update now, the Packages file just get to have the right md5sum last night :/ [05:59] zakame: which package? and my new one is uploaded :D [06:01] dolson: both then and now I suppose ;) [06:02] Hmm. [06:03] hub: License issues? [06:03] Psi-Jack: yeah. [06:03] Psi-Jack: read my comments [06:03] Where? heh [06:04] on REVU [06:04] Psi-Jack: it is in the debian/copyright [06:04] Psi-Jack: on REVU [06:04] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1852 [06:04] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1851 [06:04] I know how to package debian -style packages, and upload them with dput. heh [06:04] 'http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1853' [06:05] is it just me, or is gb.archive.u.c very slow this moment? [06:05] Yeah. After re-reading the license, myself, I figured that might happen. :/ I'm just waiting for word back from Lexmark about making it redistributable. [06:05] Psi-Jack: good luck [06:06] hub: I promise, I will push some buttons. Get them to realize if they don't offer to allow it to be redistributable, they will only kill their sales. [06:06] Psi-Jack: good luck [06:06] Psi-Jack: I woudln't hold my breath [06:07] Psi-Jack: but if you succeed, great [06:07] Yeah. :) [06:07] ideally it would be opensourcing the code [06:07] I'm all giddy for thwapping some sense. :) [06:07] I'll even go as far as calling corporate head offices. ;} [06:08] Psi-Jack: you could blog about that [06:08] :-) [06:08] hub: How about I record the phone conversations? [06:08] Since my phone is Skype, that's an easy switch to flip on. ;} [06:08] Psi-Jack: don't know [06:09] can someone review this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1279 [06:09] Heh, If it gets that far, I'll probably do it. Record it that is. And rebroadcast it all over the world, to show how close-minded Lexmark is, IF it gets to that point. ;} [06:10] Psi-Jack: better write === zakame checks [06:11] hub: It's actually perfectly legal. If I needed to use the said recording in a courtroom, however, they would have to know, prior to the recording, that it was being recorded. Otherwise.. it's quite fine. :} [06:11] But, Different topic. [06:12] i'm not talking legality [06:12] I'm guessing, by looking at the dependancy of php5 stuff requiring apache2-mpm-prefork, that it's not compiled with thread-safety? :( [06:13] hub: distribution: dapper, not breezy :) [06:13] zakame: uho. probably too old [06:14] zakame: I'll change that [06:14] hub: you can probably remove ${misc:Depends} too if its not used [06:14] hub: better check if there's a new version too :-) [06:15] I don't think there is [06:15] cool [06:15] it is quite old [06:15] Hmmm.. Curious. What's the meta-package for sucking in all the basic build dependancies? [06:15] Psi-Jack: build-essential [06:16] Technically, I could rebuild php5, and companion modules, to be linked against apache2-mpm-worker, instead of prefork, could I not? [06:23] I have a source that is mode 600 in the tarball. shall I remake the tarball? [06:24] ah so that's why I couldn't open that dir via REVU [06:24] zakame: which dir? [06:26] source from your last REVU link === tambaqui [n=patricia@200.246.97.212] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [06:29] right [06:29] I didn't even realize [06:30] well I thought it was another revu catch === monzie [n=manish@220.226.31.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-9-18.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] has anyone had any email from REVU since 1pm eastern on Saturday? [06:58] last REVU/motureviewers mail I got was 2am PHT [06:58] 11 hours ago [06:59] haven't gotten either === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-9-18.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] good night everyone === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] hmm, what would be the simplest patch system to use for just 1 or 2 patches? [07:26] dpatch ? [07:27] or if it uses cdbs, cdbs' [07:27] simple-patch-systsem [07:27] hi psusi [07:27] Lathiat: thanks [07:27] hiya [07:27] LaserJock, I like dpatch [07:28] I do too [07:28] anyone who knows what they are doing, how would I build a package with pbuilder that relies on a dev lib not [yet] in dapper? I can do it all outside of pbuilder, but I'd rather test in pbuilder, personally [07:28] dolson, add the package to the pbuilder package cache directory [07:28] dolson: I've done that before by creating a local apt repo and adding it to the OTHERMIRRORS in pbuilderrc [07:28] psusi: wow, if that works, it's too simple :) [07:29] psusi: that works? I made it much more complicated then [07:29] LaserJock, I think that's how I did it... either that or logged into the pbuilder and manually installed it via a bind mount ;) [07:30] I wanted to make a personal repo anyway so that worked well for me [07:30] simple-patchsys just works, although I've seen some snags [07:30] zakame: can you use it without cdbs? [07:30] (but additional rules in `clean' typically fix that) [07:31] LaserJock: I use simple-patch [07:31] it is simple === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:31] dpatch I find it overkill [07:31] LaserJock: its in cdbs, I don't know yet of a cdbs-independent analogue (except dpatch and quilt) [07:32] anyone understand git? I'm reading about it and it sounds like it saves a full copy of every version of a given file, rathern than the diffs between them like svn [07:32] LaserJock: but come to think of it, implementing that w/o cdbs is trivial, just make some patch/unpatch rules with the right `patch` commands [07:32] then call those targets [07:33] I was working on a package the other day like that [07:33] had a custom patch/unpatch rule that called patch on debian/patch-*.diff [07:33] and had patch-1-foo.diff, patch-2-bar.diff, etc [07:34] I have a package that I took over that doesn't use and patch system, just used the .diff.gz and I would rather use some sore of patch system [07:34] or at least keep everything in debian/ [07:35] dpatch-convert-diffgz does some wonders [07:36] cool [07:39] ooh flight4's releasing shortly [07:40] yeah, Kamion said something about it a few hours ago on -devel [07:42] alright, bed time. cya everybody! [07:43] gn8 LaserJock === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@c-67-183-18-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:24] gaah 493 MB of update to latest Dapper, gaah === KillerKiwi2005 [n=jason@203.109.215.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === monzie [n=manish@220.226.89.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] join #ebuntu [08:59] hi all [08:59] is there any need for a WYSIWYG wiki editor in Ubuntu? [09:00] yes [09:00] psusi: doesn't appear to work, heh === monzie [n=manish@220.226.89.136] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:00] KillerKiwi2005: when I first saw your nick, I thought it said "KillerWiki2005" and I was like, boy, he's biased [09:00] monzie: I have a buntu box at work running ifolder etc, boss wont use a wiki unless its WYSIWYG === monzie [n=manish@220.226.89.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] dolson: ;_ === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.65.169] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hondadarrell [n=hondadar@c-24-5-105-207.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] can I have more than one OTHERMIRROR in the pbuilderrc? [09:34] hmm, I think I can, nm === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] grrr === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^ [n=j@e178032176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [n=mae@Host-000d612e3040.dhcp.csub.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] hi! [10:19] i have a bug to report but i am unsure how to use malone [10:19] can someone walk me through it? [10:20] mae: sure, what is the bug you are tryign to file? [10:20] its the latest kernel build on dapper [10:20] 2.6.15-15 [10:20] ok so what you want to do is goto launchpad.net [10:21] sbcl gets a mmap error i tried 386/686/k7 versions [10:21] sbcl? [10:21] 2.6.15-14 and 2.15.15-12 both work fine with sbcl [10:21] steelbank common lisp [10:21] i also tried several versions of sbcl [10:21] the one in apt, and i compiled the latest [10:21] its definitely something to do with the kernel [10:22]