[12:00] <dyrne> emmanuel_: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb ?
[12:00] <_jason> emmanuel_: you need sudo before it, but there is no point in installing an antivirus unless you run some kind of mail server for people who use windows
[12:00] <bor_> hello I need some help
[12:00] <_jason> bor_: just ask
[12:00] <funkyHat> Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/561824
[12:00] <bor_> I will try
[12:00] <bor_> I'm french
[12:01] <_jason> !fr
[12:01] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:01] <amphi> _jason: I misread you, n/m
[12:01] <emmanuel_> in fact i'm installing an antivirus because my can't run anymore my windows part of my computer
[12:01] <bor_> My icones are stranges on my desk top
[12:01] <bor_> there's nobody on ubuntu-fr
[12:01] <dyrne> bor_: strange how?
[12:01] <eternaljoy> bor_: thats sad :P
[12:02] <_jason> bor_: what do you mean by strange?
[12:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bor_: There are 118 people there.
[12:02] <mikeo1> so what do i want to add to my sources.list to switch to dagger amd64
[12:03] <_jason> !dapper
[12:03] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[12:03] <emmanuel_> should i put my .deb file in some particular folder becaus it can't find it?
[12:03] <[cro] smiley> does any1 know good analog clock with transparency (except gdesklets) thx
[12:03] <bor_> I made shortcuts(sorry for the word "shortcuts") and now it's some text files
[12:03] <Adri2000> emmanuel_: what do you want to install ?
[12:03] <_jason> bor_: how did you make the shortcuts?
[12:03] <Adri2000> emmanuel_: an antivirus ? what for?
[12:04] <[cro] smiley> transparent analog clock.... ?
[12:04] <emmanuel_> my "windows" part is corrupted i need to clean it
[12:04] <bor_> right clic on the menu and the option  "add launcher to desktop
[12:04] <_mindspin> bor right click on it and chose an icon etc.
[12:04] <_mindspin> properties
[12:04] <bor_> I founded a error log fil
[12:04] <bor_> file
[12:04] <Adri2000> ok emmanuel_ so just type in a terminal :sudo apt-get install clamav
[12:04] <Agrajag> emmanuel_: You are aware that you can't write to NTFS without a bit of work right?
[12:05] <[blah`] > ubotu tell [blah`]  about opera
[12:05] <bor_> xsession-error (~)
[12:05] <Agrajag> emmanuel_: so AV or no AV you won't be able to clean anything
[12:05] <emmanuel_> so that's why i try to get some help agrajag
[12:06] <emmanuel_> it says impossible to find clamav
[12:06] <Agrajag> unless you get captive-ntfs installed, which, if your window spartition is corrupt, will not be easy, as you can't trust the drivers on the ntfs partition
[12:06] <Adri2000> !ntfs
[12:06] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:06] <Agrajag> there is a commercial solution for writing to NTFS also, I think the company that makes it is Paragon
[12:07] <wisie> Guys, thank you very much for your help.. It's all working better now! Thanks :)
[12:07] <emmanuel_> so what can i do? i can even boot from windows, it is shutting down one second after i'm on the desk
[12:07] <blacking> bye all
[12:07] <crazney> hi.. i just did a dist-upgrade on unstable last night and something has gone horribly wrong.. grub doesn't pause to let me get in to the menu, and the kernel boots with just a screwed up display.. like lines all over the place. i checked the grub config by booting with linux bbc and it's still ok (ie, timeout is 3).. but not sure what to do.. any ideas?
[12:07] <Madpilot> emmanuel_: you need to enable the Universe/Multiverse repos to get clamav
[12:07] <Madpilot> !tell emmanuel_ about repos
[12:07] <_jason> emmanuel_: reformat the partition and reinstall windows
[12:07] <dyrne> emmanuel_: it does it in safe mode too?
[12:07] <_jason> or just forget about windows
[12:07] <makaraki> Hi, anybody knows if there are any pdf tool
[12:08] <wmaster> Ae putada
[12:08] <emmanuel_> okayyy i'll try this
[12:08] <Adri2000> emmanuel_: format you partition and don't reinstall windows :D
[12:08] <bor_> none can help me?
[12:08] <Adri2000> makaraki: to view pdf ? or create pdf ?
[12:08] <mikeo1> so what do i edit in my sources.list to get an amd64 badger kernel to show up
[12:08] <makaraki> hi guys somoene knows if there are any tool for slice pdf files?
[12:09] <makaraki> hi Adri just for separate pages
[12:09] <Adri2000> ok, i don't know
[12:09] <makaraki> well no problem thanks
[12:09] <emmanuel_> god it seems pretty complicated at first o_O
[12:10] <Madpilot> makaraki: there is a command line tool to cut pdf files up - just a second, I'll find the name for you
[12:10] <makaraki> ok ! Madpilot I still here
[12:10] <Witigonen> Hey.  How can I edit the sudoers file without using sudo?
[12:10] <bor_> I'm discovering Linux and Ubuntu and I'm lost
[12:11] <Jafur> Hi all, I was on earlier and got some help with running KDE and Gnome
[12:11] <Jafur> and how to switch between
[12:11] <Witigonen> My friend set up a server and then picoed the sudoer file and messed it up <facepalm>
[12:11] <Jafur> I have a question
[12:11] <intelikey> Witigonen login as root ?
[12:11] <makaraki> Witigoten I think you must log as root
[12:11] <dyrne> emmanuel_: the good thing is you can normally find answers pretty quick either here or wiki.ubuntu.com or on ubuntuforums.org
[12:11] <Jafur> has there been a KDE update recently?
[12:11] <Jafur> before I had a memory leak problem, it now seems that is resolved on my pc
[12:12] <Madpilot> makaraki: it's called pdftk - and it's in the Ubuntu repos
[12:12] <Witigonen> But the root password isn't the same as the single user password.
[12:12] <Jafur> runs like a champ
[12:12] <Witigonen> And since there's only one user..
[12:12] <stpere> Witigonen, boot with a live CD, mount the partition...
[12:12] <makaraki> wow thanks  I will have a loof to he man pdftk
[12:12] <Madpilot> Witigonen: when the machine boots, hit ESC when grub is running, then choose rescue mode from the grub menu
[12:12] <the-login> hello
[12:12] <Witigonen> So there's no way to do it remotely.
[12:12] <makaraki> thanks again Madpilot
[12:12] <Madpilot> Witigonen: that'll get you root without needing a password
[12:12] <the-login> anyone can help me can't find the mplayer on ubuntu package
[12:12] <deuce`> Does anyone know how to disable ipv6?
[12:13] <emmanuel_> thanks for your help you gave me some clues
[12:13] <Normal> 'lo all, I'm hoping someone could tell me how to manually install programs like Firefox 1.5, and other misc..?
[12:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !ff1.5
[12:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
 So there's no way to do it remotely. <--- if there is then sudo is far less secure than even i thought....
[12:13] <stpere> Witigonen, are you sure no user can use sudo?
[12:14] <Half-Left> Normal, just run it from a directory
[12:14] <Witigonen> stpere, there are only two users on the system, only one of which is in the admin group.
[12:14] <Normal> Will following the process for firefox show me how to do others as well?
[12:14] <concept10> Is there a GUI front end for ClamAV anywhere?
[12:15] <mikeo1> so what do i edit in my sources.list to get an amd64 badger kernel to show up
[12:15] <Half-Left> Normal, no just firefox 1.5
[12:15] <Falstius> concept10: for windows there is "ClamWin"
[12:15] <bor_> where can I get some help?
[12:16] <intelikey> bor_  dial 911 maybe ?       help with what ?
[12:16] <Nwallins|home> is there a good channel for vobcopy / tcextract / mplex issues?  i am trying to back up a DVD-video and I am getting "frame data under-runs" and "too many dropped frames" for only certain dvds
[12:16] <Half-Left> bor_, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[12:16] <concept10> Falstius, windows? ha!  I see there is also one for the Mac platform.  I was wondering if there was one for *nix
[12:18] <Witigonen> Okay, thanks everybody!
[12:18] <wisie> Just a question, When I run the 'sudo apt-get install apache2' command.. Where abouts does it install to? I'm just wondering where abouts the web directory is so i can add files
[12:18] <bor_> thanks Half-left
[12:19] <Steil> wisie: did you check /var/www?
[12:19] <Half-Left> no problem
[12:19] <wisie> no i didn't Steil but thats it.. thanks
[12:19] <Steil> No problem
[12:19] <bor_> intelikey I think nautilus is out
[12:19] <mikeo1> so what do i edit in my sources.list to get an amd64 badger kernel to show up
[12:20] <Steil> wisie: you can also change your httpd.conf to allow you to make a public_html folder in your home dir so you can get to your files by http://whateveryourserver.is/~youruser
[12:21] <wisie> ahh neat :D
[12:21] <dyrne> mikeo1: currently running a 64bit kernel?
[12:21] <intelikey> bor_ you probably tried something like  'sudo nautilus'   and now you have a lock file owned by root in your home directory ?
[12:21] <mikeo1> yes
[12:22] <krishanu> i was trying to change the order of items in the ubuntu menu
[12:22] <krishanu> using the menu editor
[12:22] <krishanu> but the sound and video menu vanished
[12:22] <krishanu> its in the editor
[12:22] <krishanu> but wont show up
[12:22] <krishanu> in the actual menu
[12:22] <reztho> hi
[12:22] <krishanu> anything i can do?
[12:23] <bor_> intelikey I can send you a file named .xsession-error (~)
[12:23] <mikeo1> nevermind
[12:23] <intelikey> wisie probably not what you were asking at all, but to list the files installed by a package  use  dpkg -L package.name
[12:23] <mikeo1> figured it out myself
[12:23] <Jivenix> synaptic wants the breezy cd
[12:23] <Jivenix> how can i make it get from the internet instead
[12:24] <makaraki> bye see ya
[12:24] <krishanu> anyone?
[12:24] <Madpilot> krishanu: open the menu editor, and click right at the top ofthe lefthand frame, where it says Applications - that'll put a list of all submenus in the righthand frame - make sure the Sound & Vid menu box is ticked
[12:24] <bor_> intelikey I've created some launcher on my desktop and now they are text file!!!
[12:24] <intelikey> bor_ probably just pastebin the content,  i don't want to drop my firewall just for that.
[12:24] <intelikey> !paste
[12:24] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Jivenix: open synaptic, go to settings -> repositories, and uncheck the one for the install cd
[12:24] <krishanu> madpilot
[12:24] <krishanu> it is
[12:25] <Xenguy> !tell Jivenix about easysource
[12:25] <Jivenix> thanks
[12:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Jivenix: You'll probably want to add the others while you're there.
[12:25] <bor_> intelikey can I show it on the private session?
[12:25] <intelikey> bor_  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:25] <Madpilot> krishanu: in that case, I have no idea. Try restarting the GUI - hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace - and see if that fixes the display
[12:25] <intelikey> then post the url in here.
[12:26] <krishanu> i restart the whole computer
[12:26] <krishanu> but nothing happend
[12:26] <mitzone> is there any tweak to increase the openoffice start speed????
[12:26] <bor_> intelikey  ok thanks
[12:26] <[cro] smiley> good analog clock with transparency...?
[12:27] <Half-Left> mite, Get SUSE :-)
[12:27] <concept10> Has anyone installed XGL?
[12:27] <Half-Left> mitzone, Get SUSE :-)
[12:28] <Half-Left> yep
[12:28] <JD`Sleep> K defrag done
[12:28] <mitzone> :) nope
[12:28] <Half-Left> concept10, yes
[12:28] <jonathan_> mpeg
[12:29] <concept10> Half-Left, is it working for you?  What type of card do you have?
[12:29] <Half-Left> concept10, works great, FX5900 Ultra
[12:29] <wisie> I'm getting an error when I goto setup mysql..
[12:29] <wisie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:29] <wisie>   mysql-server-4.1: Depends: mysql-common-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[12:29] <wisie>                     Depends: mysql-client-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[12:29] <wisie>                     Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable
[12:29] <wisie> E: Broken packages
[12:29] <AntMaz> i know that gaim has yahoo , but its old and out of date how would i eaither update it or install yahoo messenger
[12:29] <Madpilot> !paste
[12:29] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:30] <concept10> Half-Left, post a screenshot!
[12:30] <_jason> wisie: you are installing apache, mysql, and php right?
[12:30] <wisie> indeed jason
[12:30] <Half-Left> concept10, what do you want to see?
[12:30] <krishanu> madpilot i restarted it, and randomly the sound & video menu showed up in the Education submenu
[12:30] <_jason> wisie: that's lamp! linux apache mysql php :)
[12:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell wisie about lamp
[12:31] <concept10> Half-Left, the cube
[12:31] <wisie> ohh, gosh im a newb :P
[12:31] <iGadget_BigDisk> ohwell
[12:31] <wisie> thanks jason
[12:31] <iGadget_BigDisk> time to go home
[12:31] <Half-Left> concept10, give me a sec
[12:31] <iGadget_BigDisk> g'night all
[12:31] <krishanu> madpilot: even though the eduction menu is greyed out in the menu editor
[12:31] <JD`Sleep> I need a program to make partitions.
[12:31] <krishanu> madpilot: its like the menu edior has no effect on the menu
[12:31] <JD`Sleep> *free program
[12:31] <iGad_zZzZ> JD'Sleep: cfdisk
[12:32] <gpm> hi everyone. i'm trying to install the clearlooks-quicksilver theme from art.gnome.org...right now when i select it in theme-manager it just shows the default gtk2 theme...what package do i need? i have clearlooks installed and it works fine
[12:32] <Madpilot> krishanu: I've got no idea - never had any problems with the editor like that. File a bug, and see what the developers have to say...
[12:32] <x10z> is there any searcht metod in terminal?
[12:32] <krishanu> ok
[12:33] <JD`Sleep> For windows.
[12:33] <intelikey> fdisk
[12:33] <Madpilot> krishanu: Ubuntu bugtracker is here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[12:33] <marius_> Hi, i dont have sound now ether
[12:33] <marius_> i have reinstalled ubuntu
[12:33] <_jason> x10z: locate, find, whereis
[12:33] <wisie> hey jason may i pm you.
[12:33] <x10z> _janson, tnx
[12:33] <Half-Left> concept10, just uploading a pic
[12:34] <_jason> wisie: sure, but if you ask here, everyone can see you question and try to help
[12:34] <concept10> Half-Left, alright
[12:34] <mitzone> quit
[12:34] <mitzone> ups :))
[12:34] <Half-Left> concept10, http://suseux.commscentral.net:8000/cube.png
 is there any searcht metod in terminal?     find  or  grep  depending on your need.   man grep    man find
[12:34] <wisie> ok i might ask here then, i went to that link and tried running 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server' but i still get the same error again.. apache and php installed fine though. Am i missing anything
[12:35] <x10z> locate work fine
[12:35] <`JD> Hm. fdisk is dos.
[12:35] <jifix> do sudo apt-get update
[12:35] <marius_> Does someone in here have AC'97?
[12:35] <concept10> Half-Left, thats bad ass, i need to install that today.  Youre on dapper right?
[12:35] <jifix> yes me
[12:36] <biovore> almost everyone has AC'97
[12:36] <slide> Postfix is what accepts mail from other servers and it runs on port 25 right?
[12:36] <marius_> ok
[12:36] <Half-Left> concept10, yep
[12:36] <intelikey> `JD fdisk is alos linux
[12:36] <marius_> does somebody here have sound?
[12:36] <biovore> slide: yes
[12:36] <slide> k
[12:36] <biovore> marius, what sound card you have?
[12:36] <marius_> AC'97 Onboard
[12:36] <concept10> Half-Left, do you remember which how to you used? (for the XGL)
[12:36] <wisie> I ran sudo apt-get update
[12:36] <wisie> But i still seem to get 'The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:36] <wisie>   mysql-server-4.1: Depends: mysql-common-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[12:36] <wisie>                     Depends: mysql-client-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[12:36] <wisie>                     Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable
[12:36] <wisie> E: Broken packages
[12:37] <wisie> '
[12:37] <Madpilot> wisie: please don't paste like that on-channel - use a pastebin
[12:37] <judgen> ubotu, tell me about ntfs
[12:37] <Madpilot> !tell wisie about pastebin
[12:37] <Half-Left> concept10, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[12:37] <wisie> sorry :)
[12:37] <intelikey> !info libdbi-perl
[12:37] <ubotu> libdbi-perl: (Perl5 database interface by Tim Bunce), section perl, is optional. Version: 1.48-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 598 kB, Installed size: 1592 kB
[12:38] <marius_> !info ubuntu
[12:38] <marius_> ;P
[12:38] <marius_> !info php
[12:38] <Madpilot> marius_: I've got AC'97 onboard as well, on an Asus mobo, and it
[12:38] <krishanu> madpilot: what package should i choose?
[12:38] <Madpilot> 's always worked fine
[12:38] <Half-Left> concept10, I used a startup script for Xgl in that thread somewhere
[12:38] <krishanu> madpilot: (to report the bug)
[12:38] <marius_> Madpilot
[12:39] <marius_> Do you have the driver?
[12:39] <concept10> Half-Left, any major bugs for you?  I play one game, I just want that to work. (True combat, based on Wolf ET)
[12:39] <judgen> is ubuntu binary-compatible with debian?
[12:39] <wisie> my apologies about the flood before, but heres the error in pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8822
[12:39] <judgen> and thus, can i use the debian repositorys?
[12:40] <Madpilot> marius_: I didn't have to install any driver, it was automatically set up on install for me
[12:40] <intelikey> judgen no
[12:40] <Half-Left> concept10, well it's experimental but games dont exactly work right sometimes, but it's easy enough to switch back to X
[12:40] <marius_> Hmm Madpilot
[12:40] <judgen> no?, why not? but it is source compatible, right?
[12:40] <jifix> yes ubuntu are compatible with debian
[12:40] <marius_> what kind of ubuntu?
[12:40] <marius_> Mine doesnt work
[12:40] <marius_> I got ICH5
[12:41] <_jason> wisie: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[12:41] <biovore> Madpilot: what dose lspci call your sound device?
[12:41] <marius_> mine call
[12:41] <jifix> you can use any debian package
[12:41] <jifix> but prefer debian
[12:41] <Madpilot> krishanu: I think the menu editor is called "smeg"
[12:41] <x10z> in xorg.conf, what i need to change to get 100hz on my monitor? "HorizSync  to-to?" and "VertRefresh to-to"
[12:41] <judgen> perfect
[12:41] <jifix> but prefer ubuntu sorry
[12:41] <marius_> Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:41] <thelsdj> is there a wireless network browser installed by default in breezy? if not is there a prefered one to install? also is one planned for default in dapper?
[12:42] <Madpilot> biovore: I think it's 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[12:42] <judgen> i want a newer versionof an app, that is in the unstable repository of debian. Its not a system crucial app so it should not matter, right?
[12:42] <Half-Left> concept10, having the right config OpenGL things will be ok but the wrong config and it will crash Xgl
[12:42] <shao_lo> can anyone   tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a  new window when i  insert a cd
[12:42] <JLiquorish> x10z: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto but you should only adjust it to what you monitor can handle
[12:42] <amphi> marius_: modprobe snd_intel8x0 might work for that
[12:42] <intelikey> judgen glibc versions,  some debian packages will probably be verbatem but some will break.   enable repos and install the packages made for your os.
[12:42] <jifix> i have used ones debian packages on my laptop when i need to install a program and i didn't have internet i it is still working fine
[12:42] <intelikey> !repos
[12:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:43] <judgen> ok
[12:43] <wisie> jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8823
[12:43] <wisie> i hope thats right
[12:43] <concept10> Half-Left, alright, i will give it a shot.  if it doesnt work, a fresh install wouldnt hurt.  Ive been on this one since Warty
[12:43] <_jason> wisie: do you use the cd-rom repository?
[12:43] <biovore> :-)
[12:44] <judgen> where can i get vlc for ubutu then?
[12:44] <wisie> i dont think so.
[12:44] <jifix> from a debian cd
[12:44] <jifix> or
[12:44] <jifix> from the net
[12:44] <Madpilot> judgen: vlc is in the Universe repos
[12:44] <biovore> I think the nvidia audio has a module
[12:44] <Madpilot> !info vlc
[12:44] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[12:44] <jifix> add
[12:44] <jifix> sources
[12:44] <jifix> with synaptic
[12:44] <jifix> do update
[12:45] <_jason> wisie: uncomment all the lines that start with ``deb'', except backports.  Decide if you want backports yourself.  Comment the first line which corresponds to the cd-rom repository.  Then save and 'apt-get update'
[12:45] <jifix> then
[12:45] <[blah] > anything wrong with installing a program from binary as sudo
[12:45] <linkd> [blah] : not "wrong" per say. just be careful.
[12:45] <jifix> sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:45] <biovore> Madpilot: you tried the module snd-ac97-codec.ko
[12:46] <ompaul>  [blah]  well if it build for your distrobution then the answer is no
[12:46] <jifix> and magicly
[12:46] <jifix> ok
[12:46] <rawkasaurus> I need some ndiswrapper help.  I have a Broadcom wireless card and I just installed the .inf with ndisgtk and it says that the hardware is not present.  I know that its the right driver and whenever I type lspci I can see a location for the wireless card.
[12:46] <[blah] > its zend studio
[12:46] <Madpilot> biovore: I didn't have to, my sound worked right away on install
[12:46] <shao_lo> can anyone tell me how to keep konqueror from opening a  new window when i  insert a cd
[12:46] <biovore> so what did you to break it?
[12:46] <biovore> :-P
[12:46] <adub> anyone in here use crossover office
[12:47] <biovore> I did for a bit
[12:47] <intelikey> see there is another that don't like "all automatic crap"
[12:47] <Madpilot> biovore: it was marius_ who is having sound trouble with an AC87 system
[12:47] <mikeo1> will linux-image-2.6.15-15-amd64-k8 detect smp?
[12:47] <judgen> i know how to add repositorys
[12:48] <Madpilot> AC97, even...
[12:48] <rawkasaurus> any help with my wifi?
[12:48] <biovore> mikeo1: check the /boot/config-<kernel_verion> to see if smp is in the kernel
[12:48] <concept10> Half-Left, is that a ATI card you have?
[12:48] <Sirius> i need help but my english is not very good
[12:48] <Half-Left> concept10, nope, nvidia
[12:48] <brenner> shao_lo: #kubuntu or #kde might be better.  most of us are probably gnome users
[12:48] <judgen> if i install a kernel with synaptic, will it replace the old non-smp kernel?
[12:48] <biovore> ATI + Linux + Gamming == issues
[12:49] <Sirius> who speak spanish?
[12:49] <biovore> judgen: it shouldn't
[12:49] <Madpilot> !es
[12:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:49] <adub> biovore good thing im not a gamer then, but my 3d acceleration seems to be working fine
[12:49] <intelikey> sirius what language ?   there may be a #ubuntu-<your language>  waiting for you
[12:49] <concept10> Half-Left, alright, my laptop has an ATI card, I dont know if im using the non-free drivers or not, but I never installed them
[12:49] <intelikey> ah
[12:49] <intelikey> !es
[12:49] <judgen> biovore, how do i change kernel then?
[12:49] <shao_lo> brenner: thx
[12:49] <Half-Left> concept10, dont know much about ATI
[12:50] <brenner> judgen: it will create a new boot entry in gnome.  you'll have to remove the old one manually
[12:50] <biovore> judgen: install the kernel and select it in grub on boot
[12:50] <wisie> thanks jason, uncomment means removing the # im guessing?
[12:50] <intelikey> oh i just noticed i'm lagging......
[12:50] <brenner> s/gnome/grub
[12:50] <intelikey> be back when my isp catches up.
[12:50] <mikeo1> "# CONFIG_SMP is not set
[12:50] <mikeo1> "
[12:50] <concept10> How do I find out what drivers my video card is using? lsmod doesnt tell me much
[12:50] <mikeo1> time to install it anyway
[12:50] <MjhZ> modprobe snd_intel8x0 <-- huh?
[12:50] <hanasaki> where / how can i check if ubuntu works on a sis 741 and sis 964 based system?
[12:51] <biovore> concept10: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:51] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, run the livecd
[12:51] <concept10> biovore, im looking, do see the reference
[12:51] <hanasaki> LinuxJones well i would like ot find out before buying the board.
[12:51] <concept10> it just says Driver "ati"
[12:52] <brenner> then you're using the ati driver
[12:52] <MjhZ> amphi what did you mean with modprobe snd_intel8x0
[12:52] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, give me a sec I will have a look around
[12:52] <hanasaki> thanks LinuxJones ...
[12:52] <concept10> I wonder if its the fglrx
[12:53] <brenner> it's not.  b/c then it would say "fglrx".
[12:54] <MjhZ> how do i edit the alsa?
[12:54] <hanasaki> hmmm brenner ATI work on xorg these says?  i had an ati 3yrs ago.. dam thing sucked.. performanc was SLOW
[12:54] <biovore> I only heard bad stuff about ATI + Linux + UT2004
[12:55] <biovore> and Quake4
[12:55] <brenner> hanasaki: from what i hear .... nvidia is the way to go if you want an easier time
[12:55] <Half-Left> ATI drivers have got better, but not by much
[12:55] <concept10> brenner, i guess i dont have them, I dont see fglrx no where
[12:55] <MjhZ> How do i edit alsa?!?
[12:55] <hanasaki> brenner  ya.. i sold the ait board and got a nv5700ultra! solid and boht videoout work!
[12:55] <hanasaki> go dual monitors!
[12:55] <BockBilbo> anyone here using Xgl in dapper?
[12:56] <Half-Left> MjhZ, to do what?
[12:56] <hanasaki> biovore what si UT?
[12:56] <biovore> Unreal Tornimate
[12:56] <Half-Left> BockBilbo, yep
[12:56] <biovore> First Person Shooter
[12:56] <BockBilbo> Half-Left, im using it by default
[12:56] <MjhZ> Half-Left modprobe snd_intel8x0
[12:56] <MjhZ> Idont know?
[12:56] <linkd> biovore: i run UT2k4 on here perfectly, and my mates run both ut2k4 and quake
[12:56] <mikeo1> #xgl-ubuntu
[12:56] <BockBilbo> though, i have notice that some custom gnome key accesses have been disabled
[12:56] <Half-Left> MjhZ, you have a nForce chipset?
[12:57] <brenner> hanasaki: eye candy, drop shadows, transparency etc.  iirc
[12:57] <dj-fu> I'd just like to say whoever here is a developer or helps with Ubuntu, you're doing a great job and it certainly is one of the best distros I've used
[12:57] <biovore> linkd: that with what ATI card?
[12:57] <MjhZ> hmm?
[12:57] <hanasaki> eye candy i sa program?
[12:57] <MjhZ> Half-left ehh what?
[12:57] <linkd> biovore: no but im positive i could run it on my laptop (which has ATI)
[12:57] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, the 964 is supported but I don't see anything for the 741
[12:57] <linkd> biovore: the trick is knowing how to configure you're graphics drivers in your xorg.conf
[12:58] <biovore> radion 9000 or better probly
[12:58] <MjhZ> I have a Gigabyte INTEL CHIPSET
[12:58] <Half-Left> MjhZ, rather than play a guessing game with you or try to read your mind, what is it you want to do?
[12:58] <biovore> linkd: you using ATI
[12:58] <hanasaki> LinuxJones  can u give the way you found that so i can peek?
[12:58] <biovore> drivers
[12:58] <brenner> hanasaki: no it's not a program.  eye candy is stuff that makes your desktop look better.
[12:58] <MjhZ> Halt-Left i want my sound
[12:58] <MjhZ> ..
[12:58] <linkd> biovore: nah im with nvidia. but like i say, im sure itll run
[12:58] <hanasaki> LinuxJones i am thinkign of this system.. and trying to figure out if it works before i spend hte $$$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16856119002
[12:58] <biovore> I have nvidia here too
[12:58] <biovore> Its just what I hear
[12:58] <linkd> if u got the know how to fix it up. originally it didnt run on here until i played with it
[12:58] <wisie> thanks jason, that worked in the end.. Your a great helping hand.
[12:58] <_jason> wisie: np
[12:59] <MjhZ> I installed Ubuntu on my computer and now it wont work
[12:59] <MjhZ> i have no sound
[12:59] <hanasaki> biovore check out the 6150 based nv boards... nice feagtures!
[12:59] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, I just grepped the kernel config in /boot/ for "SIS" and it listed all the SIS devices that the kernel has support for.
[01:00] <AntMaz> Hey anyone know how to install yahoo messenger i know gaim has it i tried following some directions i found but they didnt work (the version for debain
[01:00] <biovore> I think the SIS chipsets are decently support in linux 2.6.8 or better
[01:00] <tk401> hey everyone
[01:00] <hanasaki> LinuxJones  ah thansk!  can u peek at that url i gvae and share opinions of if ti work/not ?
[01:00] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, but the dapper kernel may have support for it, I am running Breezy atm.
[01:00] <hanasaki> biovore sis any good?
[01:00] <MjhZ> Half-Left do you know the answer?
[01:00] <biovore> sis == low end
[01:00] <srbija> hello
[01:00] <tk401> AntMaz, are you trying to log in to the yahoo messenger network with GAIM?
[01:00] <srbija> everyone
[01:00] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, can you re-post the link
[01:01] <srbija> how can I know do I have firewall on my ubunta
[01:01] <hanasaki> i am on kernel 2.6.15   but need ot know if the disk cd install has enuf support to actualy install
[01:01] <SAAD3000> hello, how do I disable the ipw2200 from the kernel ?
[01:01] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, is it a network card ?
[01:01] <hanasaki> LinuxJones  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16856119002
[01:01] <hanasaki>  brb
[01:01] <AntMaz> im using it now , but i wanted to know if there was a different version cause igaim is out of date
[01:01] <srbija> how can I know do I have firewall on my ubunta?
[01:01] <hanasaki> LinuxJones  its a whole system.. w/ integratred everything
[01:01] <hanasaki> brb
[01:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> srbija: It's off by default, so unless you've changed something, it's probably not running.
[01:01] <SAAD3000> actually how do I remove the whole wireless drivers from the kernel?
[01:02] <_jason> srbija: you have iptables, it doesn't have any rules unless you set it up though
[01:02] <biovore> SAAD3000: rmmod <module>
[01:02] <tk401> AntMaz, there is a newer version of GAIM, but I wouldn't know how to install that other than downloading and compiling from source. You'd have to remove the old version of GAIM first though
[01:02] <SAAD3000> biovore thanx
[01:02] <srbija> ok
[01:02] <srbija> but i have really big problem
[01:02] <srbija> i started IRCD
[01:02] <Half-Left> MjhZ, You usually use alsaconf but it dont seem to be hear in Ubuntu, maybe another package name
[01:02] <srbija> and i cannot access it
[01:03] <srbija> over internet
[01:03] <AntMaz> you dont know how to get just a version of yahoo anywere
[01:03] <SAAD3000> biovore ipw2200 doesn't exist in /proc/modules
[01:03] <Fonzie2> hello
[01:03] <Fonzie2> does Sound Blaster Audigy LS work with ubuntu?
[01:03] <biovore> ipw2200 is the name of the card.. not the module
[01:04] <SAAD3000> biovore but i have ipw2200.ko in the kernel driver
[01:04] <biovore> sudo rmmod ipw2200 dosn't work?
[01:04] <tk401> AntMaz, you can download the Yahoo Messenger for Unix at the yahoo website, let me get you the URL
[01:04] <biovore> dose lsmod show the module being there
[01:04] <SAAD3000> biovore ipw2200 doesn't exist in /proc/modules
[01:04] <SAAD3000> no
[01:04] <biovore> then the module isn't installed
[01:04] <biovore> done
[01:04] <Nunquam_Fidelis> How can I select which window manager a desktop enviroment uses?
[01:05] <biovore> try modprobe ipw2200
[01:05] <brenner> Fonzie2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:05] <SAAD3000> biovore because its conflicting with my nic it doesn't let me connect to the net
[01:05] <ompaul> Fonzie2, on the command line start alsamixer then check nothing is muted
[01:05] <AntMaz> i tried that and it says im missing lbssl.0.9.6 and tried getting that didnt work eaither
[01:05] <biovore> hmm intressting
[01:05] <Fonzie2> ok
[01:05] <SAAD3000> biovore nothing
[01:05] <Half-Left> Nunquam_Fidelis, from the login manager under Session
[01:05] <SAAD3000> biovore it didn't give me error
[01:05] <tk401> AntMaz, how did you install the version that you downloaded?
[01:05] <[blah] > mysql 5 is not in the repository is it?
[01:05] <srbija> why i cant access my ircd over internet?
[01:05] <_jason> [blah] : no
[01:05] <AntMaz> no i tried to install it but it didnt work
[01:06] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Half-Left: That only let me selects the window manager/desktop enviroment, not which de uses which wm. Such as, how can I get Xfce to use the Blackbox window manager?
[01:06] <biovore> [blah] : nope.. 4.1 is the newest
[01:06] <ompaul> srbija, are you behind a router?
[01:06] <ploom> ehh - anyone had luck with an ati rage II pro (mach64) and some minimum 3d?
[01:06] <tk401> AntMaz, how did you install though? like specifically
[01:06] <LinuxJones> srbija, do you connect to the internet using a router ?
[01:06] <[blah] > _jason, biovore what would be the best way to add 5?
[01:06] <Half-Left> Nunquam_Fidelis, I assume you just run it from xfce
[01:06] <srbija> im connecting over my second pc which one is on windows and it shares connection
[01:06] <ompaul> srbija, local router as i nadsl type
[01:06] <biovore> ploom: should work using glx glcore
[01:06] <SAAD3000> biovore it didn't give me error
[01:06] <_jason> [blah] : probably compile it
[01:06] <AntMaz> Debian Linux:
[01:06] <AntMaz>    1. Save the file (8343187bc62cd9522d8e05995adbcfdf) to your machine.
[01:06] <AntMaz>    2. Log in as root and type
[01:06] <AntMaz>        dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[01:06] <AntMaz>       to install the application
[01:07] <AntMaz>    3. Run /usr/bin/ymessenger from X Window to launch the application.
[01:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell AntMaz about pastebin
[01:07] <AntMaz> did it install thats a big negative
[01:07] <JLiquorish> _jason, thank you for all your help earlier, my ubuntu is working great now =D
[01:07] <_jason> JLiquorish: great
[01:07] <tk401> AntMaz, have you removed the package yet?
[01:07] <biovore> [blah] : goto mysql download it, and follow there install directions and compile it from source
[01:07] <biovore> if you want it
[01:07] <srbija> i forwarded port 6667 from windows machine to this one and it still doesnt works :(
[01:08] <AntMaz> i saved it to my desktop , it never installed the pakage
[01:08] <LinuxJones> srbija, you'll have to get windows to forward to your linux server, don't ask me how I have no idea
[01:08] <srbija> i did that
[01:08] <srbija> with forwarder
[01:08] <meh> 'lo everyone. I have a toshiba satellite M70 that won't use 1280x800 resolution. i've tried using the wiki guide, but it's still not supporting the right resolution. any suggestions?
[01:08] <ompaul> srbija, internet ---  position X (is there something here, if so what is it ----- PC 1 (what OS) ---- PC 2 (again what OS)
[01:08] <biovore> you would probably be better of doing it the other way around.. linux forwards windows
[01:08] <biovore> windows + networking stuff == week
[01:08] <tk401> AntMaz, if you followed the directions the package is on the system, but you will need to open a terminal and type sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[01:08] <SAAD3000> biovore i typed: modprobe ipw2200 but it didn't give me any error .
[01:09] <LinuxJones> srbija, you running a firewall on the linux pc ?
[01:09] <hanasakiBRB> back
[01:09] <biovore> SAAD3000: type dmesg
[01:09] <hanasaki> sorry LinuxJones
[01:09] <tk401> AntMaz, this will download the remaining packages needed to run the program
[01:09] <SAAD3000> meh same they use 1280x786
[01:09] <srbija> i dont know
[01:09] <srbija> i didnt installed firewall
[01:09] <srbija> only if it is in ubunta
[01:09] <ompaul> srbija, care to have a shot at my question
[01:09] <AntMaz> should i do that in the desktop folder
[01:10] <`JD> >:( I cant find free partition software for windows XP.
[01:10] <SAAD3000> biovore i did, it gave me ipw2200 and the name of my wireless card
[01:10] <_jason> `JD: use gparted on the livecd
[01:10] <tk401> AntMaz, in the terminal window
[01:10] <srbija> ompaul: i have 2 pc's windows machine is connecting to internet and linux machine is connecting through LAN on shared connection on Win
[01:10] <AntMaz> well for some reason my turminal doesnt work proporly
[01:10] <`JD> I dont have a spare CD to burn to.
[01:10] <meh> SAAD3000: you too, huh? I've hit a wall with the screen res; it's the only thing between almost working and working ubuntu install
[01:10] <ompaul> srbija, fill in the gap for me is there something at X
[01:11] <tk401> AntMaz, what does it say or what happens?
[01:11] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, maybe you can search google possibly someone has linux running on that very machine
[01:11] <srbija> what is X
[01:11] <hanasaki> LinuxJones  i always search before i ask
[01:11] <ompaul> srbija, internet ---  position X (is there something here, if so what is it ----- PC 1 (what OS) ---- PC 2 (again what OS)
[01:11] <SAAD3000> meh on suse also it doesn't make the accurate res its always lower than the one on xp
[01:11] <hanasaki> nothing found
[01:11] <SAAD3000> biovore i did, it gave me ipw2200 and the name of my wireless card.
[01:11] <brenner> `JD: isn't this offtopic?  or are you trying to dualboot?
[01:11] <srbija> no Win is directlu conected to Internet
[01:12] <SAAD3000> biovore it gave me four lines of ipw2200 and details of my wireless card
[01:12] <srbija> ompaul:can you help?
[01:12] <`JD> Brenner: I am trying to duel boot. But I cant find free partition software to do it.
[01:12] <AntMaz> it just goes back to user@ubuntu:
[01:12] <ompaul> srbija, can you get to the internet with the linux box? i.e. with a browser?
[01:12] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, Mandriva 2005 seems to work on that machine I am sure Ubuntu will work as well.
[01:12] <hanasaki> ah
[01:12] <hanasaki> cool
[01:12] <hanasaki> guess i didnt find that link
[01:12] <srbija> yes im on it right now
[01:13] <hanasaki> nice little box
[01:13] <tk401> AntMaz, after you type in sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[01:13] <AntMaz> ive done all the upgrades though or is that specifically for messenger
[01:13] <tk401> AntMaz, ?
[01:13] <brenner> `JD: you don't need to.  the installer has parted functionality thru the partitioner.  you can resize there.  just remember to defrag
[01:13] <AntMaz> after i type anything
[01:13] <AntMaz> well not anything but sudo
[01:13] <brenner> ubotu: tell `JD about dualbot
[01:13] <LinuxJones> hanasaki, search google for TLM454R3M6-C350 linux and it's the first hit
[01:13] <brenner> ubotu: tell `JD about dualboot
[01:13] <srbija> ompaul?
[01:13] <ompaul> srbija, okay what is its ip? command is >> ifconfig << in a terminal - please wait there is more
[01:13] <hanasaki> thanks linux
[01:13] <`JD> Oh well. I did defrag just then and its done. Last night I was confused at the partition part of the installation.
[01:14] <ompaul> srbija, is it in the 192.168 series?
[01:14] <`JD> UBUNTU WIKI DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.
[01:14] <SAAD3000> biovore still here?
[01:14] <linkd> :/
[01:14] <srbija> yes it is in 192.168
[01:14] <ompaul> `JD, please dont shout
[01:14] <brenner> `JD: no need to shout.  well what's your current HDD look like?
[01:14] <tk401> AntMaz, you see, when you download the .deb file from yahoo, it doesn't come with all the software to run, so after you run sudo dpkg -i ymessenger*.deb, it will not run due to missing dependencies
[01:14] <biovore> dosed of for a sec
[01:15] <LinuxJones> `JD, maybe tehy are doing maintenance at the moment
[01:15] <b1ind> I can't get rhythmbox to even recognize my mp3's after installing gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:15] <tk401> AntMaz, so that why after the dpkg -i, you need to run sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[01:15] <Jubei> guys, qick q: I had an old 3dfx agp card but now I've removed it and installed an nvidia GeForce 2MX one. Naturally Xwindows refuses to start, what do I do?:)
[01:15] <SAAD3000> biovore welcome back
[01:15] <`JD> Sorry. 80gig HD 39gigs remaining
[01:15] <tk401> AntMaz, like that, it downloads the rest of the stuff it needs
[01:15] <SAAD3000> biovore the dmesg  gave me four lines of ipw2200 and details of my wireless card...
[01:15] <Half-Left> b1ind, try gstreamer-mad
[01:15] <srbija> ompaul?
[01:15] <biovore> anything usefull/
[01:15] <AntMaz> ok im doing that now if you hit ctrl alt F2 it will goto shell
[01:15] <brenner> `JD: i meant in terms of partitions.  does xp take up the whole drive?
[01:15] <carpediem> Jubei: did you install the nvidia drivers?  Did you change your xorg.conf?
[01:15] <b1ind> Half-Left, it is installed
[01:16] <biovore> paste it into #flood
[01:16] <tk401> AntMaz, yes, from there you can log in and run those commands
[01:16] <`JD> Yes it currently in on the whole drive
[01:16] <[blah] > As I was installing mysql synaptic opened a debconf window which crashed and now my synaptic is frozen.  What should I do?
[01:16] <SAAD3000> biovore i cant its not connected to the internet
[01:16] <cynicaloptimist> Hello, I'm trying to disable touchpad-tapping, and I've tried adding Option "MaxTapTime" "0" to xorg.conf, but nothing appears to work. Any ideas?
[01:16] <ompaul> srbija, well that ip can reach the internet but you can't get to it from the outside without the box in front of it allowing the passage of packets - please wait I have to (A) thing (B) at times research (C) check that I answer your question
[01:16] <AntMaz> i dont know why the terminal in accesories doesnt work
[01:16] <wisie> hah I have yet another dilemma, damn I suck :D I seem to be getting this error after i have installed mysql.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8824
[01:16] <hanasaki> LinuxJones  i got a shopping page as the first page
[01:16] <biovore> SAAD3000: your connected now, arnt you?
[01:16] <SAAD3000> biovore but it gave me the name of my wireless card
[01:17] <ompaul> srbija, so you need to have some packet fowarding happening on the windows box
[01:17] <`JD> Well I may aswell go for another crack at it.
[01:17] <Half-Left> b1ind, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[01:17] <brenner> `JD: are you using the machine right now?
[01:17] <b1ind> oh, there is a gstreamer0.10
[01:17] <Jubei> i 've downloaded nvidia-glx drivers (dunno if they're correct), and I'm not sure what to change in my xorg.conf, where do I read up on that?
[01:17] <`JD> Yes. brenner.
[01:17] <srbija> yes
[01:17] <SAAD3000> biovore no iam on the pc ubuntu is on the laptop if i removed the ipw2200 module i would connect becoz its block the connection to the network card
[01:17] <ompaul> srbija, that is windows question please ask in ##windows how to set that up this is a linux channel
[01:17] <biovore> SAAD3000: dose it show up when you do a ifconfig
[01:17] <srbija> i did that man
[01:17] <brenner> `JD: well i can either give you instructions now, or you can find another computer and we can walk you through step by step
[01:18] <srbija> i forwarded port 6667 to this pc
[01:18] <`JD> Brennner, PM me.
[01:18] <[blah] > If I click close on the 'Applying Changes' window it does nothing.
[01:18] <ompaul> srbija, and you have ircd working on it?
[01:18] <SAAD3000> biovore no i disabled it, but if i did the -a it will show it
[01:18] <hanasaki> what is ubuntu better for vs debian? what is debian better for vs ubuntu?
[01:18] <srbija> yes ircd is working on this one
[01:18] <biovore> if you get a device in ifconfig
[01:19] <biovore> all thats left is the network config.. mainly routing
[01:19] <ompaul> srbija, it could be that your isp has blocked that port - do you want me to try to connect to it ?
[01:19] <srbija> yes
[01:19] <biovore> enable the wifi card and look at your route
[01:19] <tk401> AntMaz, i'm not sure why your terminal is acting up, but if you search the ubuntuforums.org, i think i remember seeing other people with problems like that
[01:19] <brenner> hanasaki: heh, don't start.  it's all a matter of opinion
[01:19] <SAAD3000> biovore i get my network card and i configured it, but the ipw2200 is blocking the connection to the nic even thou the wifi is disabled
[01:19] <biovore> (look at your route by typing route -n
[01:19] <judgen> where can i get hold of accelerated ati drivers?
[01:20] <cafuego> !ati
[01:20] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:20] <SAAD3000> biovore why should i enable the wifi i dont use it to connect to the net.
[01:20] <hanasaki> brenner  sorry.. not trying to start a war... just to get facts so i can make my own decision
[01:20] <Hostile> has anyone gotten the fglrx drivers to work with X.Org 7.0?
[01:21] <biovore> SAAD3000: I think when you enable the wifi device you changing your default route to use the wifi device. witch dosn't have a connection to the net
[01:21] <phiber_optic> brenner, I think hanasaki just wants to know the difference to make ups his mind to see which distro he wants to use
[01:21] <srbija> ompaul?
[01:21] <brenner> hanasaki: i didn't mean offence.
[01:21] <brenner> hanasaki: it's just a very loaded question to some people :)
[01:21] <hanasaki> hanasaki  lol i was tell u i didnt mean office.. we are cool
[01:22] <srbija> ompaul: did you tried?
[01:22] <ompaul> srbija, it looks like I am getting somewhere
[01:22] <adub> Hostile i have
[01:22] <ompaul> srbija, please wait for me to call you
[01:22] <phiber_optic> hanasaki, I guess you could download both and try it for yourself
[01:22] <hanasaki> phiber_optic  i ahve ;)  i like to learn from others as well.   heck i dont know everytning
[01:22] <OmegaAlpha> can someone tell me how to add more than 1 channel on connection for xchat
[01:23] <cafuego> hanasaki: I think Debian is better suited to production systems, not sure Ubuntu ahs quite the quiality.stability that would be required for those. As for desktops, whatever you prefer.
[01:23] <hanasaki> thanks cafuego
[01:23] <Hostile> adub: I NEED HELP please, Ive been working on this for hours, Im going crazy
[01:23] <biovore> OmegaAlpha: /join #channel should do it
[01:23] <adub> i gotcha brotha
[01:23] <phiber_optic> I couldnt talk about debian Id dint download it yet
[01:23] <Hostile> adub: PM?
[01:23] <adub> well im registered yes
[01:23] <adub> so a pm would be fine
[01:23] <Hostile> Ok
[01:23] <OmegaAlpha> biovore, yeah i mean in the server list->Edit->channels to join
[01:23] <phiber_optic> cafuego, what do you mean for production systems?
[01:24] <[blah] > how do I find what my computer name / domain / workgroup name is?
[01:24] <ompaul> srbija, I have connected but it does not let me join any channels or anything else
[01:24] <biovore> OmegaAlpha: you main join on connect?
[01:24] <hanasaki> i am tyring to get ubuntu going on a box... think there is a hardware issue.. boots fine off cdrom if there are no drives attached.. i attached a hd and it wont get past bios post... the drives seem mountable ina diff computer.... sorry if this is offtopic... any thoughts on the problem or how to find it
[01:24] <cafuego> phiber_optic: production servers
[01:24] <ompaul> srbija, then it drops me
[01:24] <hanasaki> ?
[01:24] <adub> Hostile you have to be registered on freenode to send pms
[01:24] <cafuego> phiber_optic: The ones that ISp use, for instance.
[01:24] <OmegaAlpha> biovore, i mean join on connect... more than one channel
[01:24] <srbija> maybe i didnt forwarded as i should
[01:24] <adub> i mean i can see what your sending but you cant see what i send etc
[01:24] <phiber_optic> cafuego, you mean for servers? what is it more stable than ubuntu? if yes why?
[01:24] <Hostile> adub: I am
[01:24] <apt514> hi i'm using 5.4 how do i load a driver for a usb camera ?
[01:25] <cafuego> phiber_optic: it's been around for far longer, thus proven.
[01:25] <biovore> OmegaAlpha: I tring to remember.. it been a while since I used xchat
[01:25] <biovore> OmegaAlpha: But I know it can do it.
[01:25] <adub> Hostile odd so am i maybe i need to recognize myself with the servers brb
[01:25] <Hostile> adub: identified with nickserv, thats registered right?
[01:25] <Hostile> ok
[01:25] <tk401> apt514, what happens if you just plug it in?
[01:25] <biovore> OmegaAlpha: I am using kvirc-3.2.0.20051230 here
[01:25] <OmegaAlpha> biovore, i tried seperating the channels with spaces, commas, semi colons.. nothing works
[01:25] <phiber_optic> cafuego, I see...
[01:25] <hanasaki> phiber_optic debina has a reputation for being very stable, secure and consequently slow to upgrade to new packages
[01:25] <apt514> ubuntu asks me to import pictures but doesn't
[01:26] <OmegaAlpha> biovore, always connects only to the first one listed in list
[01:26] <biovore> I think you just add them one at a time
[01:26] <dabaR_> you are both not identified
[01:26] <SAAD3000> firmware_class how do i know if this firmware is for wirless or not?
[01:26] <wisie> I just installed mysql and I seem to be getting this error 'ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO) anyone have any ideas whats happening
[01:26] <phiber_optic> hanasaki, HOw do you clasiffy stability?... since i dont know which is suitable for me
[01:26] <tk401> apt514, do you click on import?
[01:26] <cafuego> phiber_optic: I prefere Ubuntu for the desktop, as newer, less tested software is available. For servers I prefer to not use anything less then a yar old :-)
[01:26] <apt514> tk401 usb-linux.org has it listed
[01:26] <biovore> wisie: try mysql -u root -p
[01:26] <cafuego> s/yar/year/
[01:26] <biovore> then enter a password
[01:26] <apt514> tk401 yes :)
[01:26] <Captain_Fleming> Hey, can anyone help me install a mpeg/avi/mov plugin (or more plugins)
[01:26] <phiber_optic> ubuntu is less than a year?
[01:27] <tk401> apt514, hehe just checking
[01:27] <hanasaki> phiber_optic all a perception for each person.. jsut based thie statement on a trend i "feel" from conversations w/ others
[01:27] <cafuego> phiber_optic: 5.10 is 5.04 is too.
[01:27] <tk401> apt514, so, nothing at all happens when you click on import?
[01:27] <Hostile> adub: figure it out?
[01:27] <phiber_optic> so you are telling me If i want ot put a server I should put other version other than Ubuntu
[01:27] <apt514> no & it finds it as another cam the vendor id is 0x2770
[01:27] <carpediem> Jubei: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find where it says Driver and change the setting to "nvidia"
[01:27] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell Captain_Fleming about codecss
[01:27] <adub> i forgot my pass like msg me you aim or something
[01:27] <biovore> debian is best for servers
[01:28] <hanasaki> phiber_optic  u gotta make your own decisons
[01:28] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell Captain_Fleming about restricted
[01:28] <cafuego> phiber_optic: No, YOu can put on it whatever YOU like.
[01:28] <Normal> could someone tell me(or point me to a website) how to install something not in the repository that I downloaded?
[01:28] <cafuego> phiber_optic: I'm just telling you what *I* do.
[01:28] <wisie> biovore: I still seem to be getting access denied and I'm entering the right password.. Is there anyway I can remove it and start again?
[01:28] <Captain_Fleming> dabaR_: I know about codecs, I even have them, they only do not seem to work
[01:28] <amphi> Normal: is it a deb?
[01:28] <cafuego> By all means put the latest cvs gentoo on it ;-)
[01:28] <dabaR_> Normal: what is it that you are installing?
[01:28] <cartesian1984> Is there something like syslinux for reiser4 filesystems?
[01:28] <Hostile> adub: join #hostilechan
[01:28] <Normal> nope
[01:28] <tk401> apt514, my camera just shows up at a usb-drive sort of thing and it allows me to just drag and drop filed from it... does yours show up as a desktop icon?
[01:28] <dabaR_> Captain_Fleming: read the restricted formats page.
[01:28] <amphi> Normal: what is it?
[01:29] <zebraFusion>  $HOME/.xchat2
[01:29] <Normal> tar.gz
[01:29] <zebraFusion> how d o I find that directory?
[01:29] <hanasaki> cartesian1984  using rieser4?  what do u think of it ver ext3 / rieser3
[01:29] <Seveas> Normal, what is it?
[01:29] <brenner> ubotu: tell Normal about checkinstall
[01:29] <dabaR_> Normal: of what?
[01:29] <Captain_Fleming> dabaR_: on what? where?
[01:29] <phiber_optic> cafuego,  thanx
[01:29] <dabaR_> Captain_Fleming: read the pm from ubotu
[01:29] <amphi> Normal: tar zxf foo.tar.gz
[01:29] <apt514> tk401 i tired gnomemeeting but no webcam too
[01:29] <Captain_Fleming> ahzo
[01:29] <JLiquorish> =( thunderbird wont read the planet ubuntu rss feed
[01:29] <hanasaki> phiber_optic  make sure any prod sysgtems are debian "stable"
[01:29] <cartesian1984> hanasaki, the ext3 filesystem would suffice
[01:29] <tk401> apt514, so it's a webcam?
[01:29] <zebraFusion> when I cd $home/.xchat2, I can't find the directory... Where is this located?
[01:30] <Normal> I'll try..hold on.
[01:30] <phiber_optic> hanasaki, what does that mean?
[01:30] <hanasaki> "Stable" phiber_optic as in not the testing/unstable.  u do want production to be stable. right?
[01:30] <apt514> ah both :)
[01:30] <phiber_optic> yeahh
[01:30] <tk401> apt514, oh that's cool
[01:30] <brenner> zebraFusion: what's the error?
[01:30] <zebraFusion> there is no error
[01:30] <hanasaki> phiber_optic  then run "stable" hehe
[01:31] <zebraFusion> it just doens't change the directory
[01:31] <dabaR_> zebraFusion: ls .x<tab><tab>
[01:31] <apt514> i just don't know the module to load
[01:31] <zebraFusion> I'm just tryign to find .xchat2 somewhere inm y filessystem
[01:31] <tk401> apt514, so does it run off a memory stick or anything to store pictures?
[01:31] <apt514> yeah 2 aaa bat
[01:31] <wisie> In php I'm getting access denied, is there anyway to remove the install and re setup
[01:31] <brenner> zebraFusion: it's in /home/<username>
[01:31] <hanasaki> zebraFusion try "ls -al" in yourhome dir
[01:31] <tk401> apt514, no built memory though? just batteries?
[01:31] <AntMaz> tk401: that still isnt working
[01:31] <zebraFusion> thanks, found it
[01:32] <tk401> AntMaz, what happened? anything? error messages?
[01:32] <Normal> I don't know how to do anything!! I'm going to go search and search and see if I can become less stupid.
[01:32] <dibblego> I have installed the NVidia driver and nvidia-settings, but I see only one monitor in the NVidia X Server Settings dialog - even though I have a dual head card (PCX5300) - how do I switch on the second monitor?
[01:32] <zphinx> Anyone who can help me on a matter of ipv6?
[01:32] <AntMaz> the libssl9.0.6
[01:32] <newbuntie> Normal: did you untar the tar archive?
[01:32] <apt514> tk401 2mb sdram
[01:32] <dabaR_> he's gone
[01:33] <gloin> hey all
[01:33] <zphinx> Is there any easy way of adding comands to the startup scripts? tryign to add the btexact ipv6 tunneling script to startup
[01:33] <tk401> AntMaz, go to synaptic and search for it, see if you can find something by the name of libssl (leave out the version number)
[01:34] <SAAD3000> hello, how do I remove ipw2200 drivers??
[01:34] <dabaR_> zphinx: it is a script file?
[01:34] <tk401> apt514, unfortunately i don't know anything about webcams
[01:34] <zphinx> yeah, a regular .sh file
[01:34] <gloin> is glxgears different for ubuntu than other distros?  I've done the nvidia driver thing as per wiki, but when I test with glxgears, I don't get a framerate output, and as this card's a 7800gt, it's impossible to tell if the gears are just spinning fast enough to sync with the screen refresh
[01:34] <tk401> apt514, but if it asks you to import files, there should be a desktop icon for the camera. is there?
[01:34] <gloin> glxinfo shows direct rendering as "yes"
[01:34] <gloin> so that's not an issue
[01:35] <doubletwist> gloin run : glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:35] <brenner> -printfps iirc
[01:35] <dabaR_> zphinx: to add a script to startup, add it to the /etc/init.d dir, if you do not care when it is started. If you care, look at /etc/rc.X dirs
[01:35] <apt514> tk401 no just a window opens when i plug it in
[01:35] <gloin> doubletwist: huh?
[01:35] <gloin> seriously?
[01:35] <doubletwist> gloin I just set that up as an alias for glxgears so I don't hav to remember all the time
[01:35] <zphinx> thanks :)
[01:35] <marc> What is the way to set up the webmin password to the first user?
[01:35] <doubletwist> gloin Yeah they got tired of people thinking it was a 'benchmark
[01:35] <tk401> apt514, so there's a window that pops up but no desktop icon?
[01:35] <gloin> ok, heh
[01:35] <SAAD3000> hello, how do I remove ipw2200 drivers??
[01:35] <AntMaz> ok
[01:35] <gloin> 12221.200 FPS
[01:35] <wisie> Hello guys, I just installed mysql but I have buggered the password up and it wont work.. is there anyway I can remove it and do a fresh install? Cheers
[01:35] <b1ind> Half-Left, turns out i needed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly... who would have known
[01:36] <gloin> I'm guessing the driver is working
[01:36] <tk401> AntMaz, did it work?
[01:36] <doubletwist> Not bad
[01:36] <gloin> yeah it's a nice rig
[01:36] <gloin> amd64, etc
[01:36] <apt514> tk401 yeah & in /lib/2.6/ker/mod/drivers/usb/ there's only 3 ?
[01:36] <AntMaz> i didnt try it yet
[01:36] <esac> my cd burner keeps burning coasters. i have a cd which will get through the whole install portion, but the files themsevles are corrupted. is there a way to do a network install of ubuntu (ftp share, smb share, nfs share, http) ???
[01:36] <gloin> for some reason, my screen res dropped when I setup the nvidia driver though
[01:36] <tk401> AntMaz, oh ok.
[01:36] <doubletwist> I get 11000ish on a 6800GT [can't now, CPU is loaded converting some video] 
[01:36] <Kyral> wisie: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.0
[01:36] <wisie> thankyou!
[01:37] <dabaR_> wisie: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql
[01:37] <Kyral> yah but I prefer purging it first
[01:37] <Kyral> that way its completely gone
[01:37] <tk401> apt514, if the camera comes up, obviously the kernel is picking it up...
[01:37] <tk401> apt514, when the window pops up, is anything displayed on it?
[01:38] <apt514> tk401 sure
[01:38] <tk401> apt514, like your pictures?
[01:38] <apt514> tk401 nothing, just does not copy the photos
[01:38] <dabaR_> esac: you md5summed the iso?
[01:38] <wisie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? How would i work out what procss is using it? All i have open is this, terminal and firefox
[01:39] <dabaR_> turn off synaptic
[01:39] <wisie> ok
[01:39] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, I'm looking to install a Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory server, any links or whatnot?  Forums don't seem too helpful for the server installs
[01:39] <tk401> apt514, you may be to copy the pictures manually by drag and drop, can you do  that?
[01:39] <esac> dabar_ no, but i did a successful install off from it already .. gave that cd to a friend tho
[01:39] <IAmWill> Can Ubuntu emerge like Gentoo?
[01:40] <dabaR_> esac: you could try that.  the proper md5sums are on the download site
[01:40] <Kyral> ubotu: tell IAmWill about Apt
[01:40] <apt514> tk401 how? it detects the cam as a argus dc-1510
[01:40] <dabaR_> IAmWill: update all packages? sure, sudo aptitude update&&sudo aptitude upgrade
[01:40] <Kyral> Apt is like Portage 'cept no compile times :P
[01:40] <SAAD3000> hello, how do I remove ipw2200 drivers??
[01:40] <jdumont> hello... I am in the midst of downloading "edubuntu"  is it going to be what I already have?  I already have the ubuntu cd.
[01:40] <tk401> apt514, what are contents of the window?
[01:41] <tk401> like any folders or files in there?
[01:41] <Kyral> Edubuntu is basically a customization of Ubuntu targetted at classrooms
[01:41] <dabaR_> jdumont: yes, similar. if you would like to replace your ubuntu install with edubuntu, sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop
[01:42] <jdumont> thanks.... i thought ubuntu is the server for the edubuntu clients
[01:42] <IAmWill> Here is the deal, I am using Gentoo right now, and about the only thing I like about it is, the Customization, and the fact that you can emerge your downloads.  What I dont like is the time it takes, the compiles screwing up when your emerge is "missing" a package, and of course, the install.
[01:42] <tawker> hi all
[01:42] <apt514> when plugged a bottom tab opens warning
[01:42] <Kyral> IAmWill: look at what Ubotu told you
[01:42] <GoDawgs> hey ya'll
[01:42] <Mabus06> When I boot up ubuntu it stops after 'checking battery state' is shown to be ok.
[01:43] <wisie> mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password   - Through doing that command do i just edit the pasword bit? do i have touch the db_user_password at all? Just want to do this properly :)
[01:43] <tawker> does anyone know of a good open proxy scanner for ubuntu?
[01:43] <IAmWill> Some how I ventured into here from google and wanted to know the benefits for Ubuntu.
[01:43] <IAmWill> Kyral: Okay
[01:43] <dabaR_> wisie: /j #mysql
[01:43] <GoDawgs> has anyone experienced installing Kubuntu only to have it shut down the laptop when it reached "Setting the Clock".... in the initial boot?
[01:43] <wisie> ok thankjs
[01:43] <jdumont> dabaR: will i need a cd to do this or can I get it off a ftp server?
[01:43] <antonio_> salve a tutti , c qualcuno cui posso chiedere aiuto a riguardo di ubuntu?
[01:43] <apt514> tk401 how do i use the vendor id to find the usb driver
[01:43] <SAAD3000> hello, how do I remove ipw2200 drivers??
[01:44] <FlannelKing> jdumont, it's in the repositories, so off the servers
[01:44] <brenner> IAmWill: well, we're all biased.  but if you want to try a deb based distro, ubuntu is a good one to start with
[01:44] <biovore> rmmod ipw2200
[01:44] <dabaR_> jdumont: the ubuntu repositories contain all packages that are in edubuntu. /j #edubuntu, maybe someone can give you more info there
[01:44] <jdumont> great... then I;ll cancel the iso download
[01:44] <dabaR_> !it
[01:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:44] <gkelly> Where is the best guide for installing MythTV ??
[01:44] <antonio_> okay
[01:45] <gloin> groovy
[01:45] <gloin> so
[01:45] <jdumont> mythtv.... if you have itunes check out systm.org
[01:45] <Mabus06> Another question: How come when I try to install ubuntu on my dell it won't let me give enough partition space? There is like 40 gigs free.
[01:45] <gloin> does anyone have an installation source for gkrellm?  I kind of rely upon that
[01:45] <jdumont> or maybe just systm.org
[01:45] <antonio_> grazie
[01:45] <brenner> gloin: what's wrong with the gkrellm in the repos?
[01:45] <gloin> oh nvm
[01:45] <dabaR_> !mythtv
[01:45] <ubotu> from memory, mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[01:45] <IAmWill> brenner: i have also never used deb or deb based distro before.... let alone, i have never used a deb package before
[01:45] <gloin> I need to enable universe
[01:46] <dabaR_> IAmWill: it is easy
[01:46] <tk401> apt514, i'm not sure what's going on with your camera, but if you want to try to find the driver for the camera, you can look up the vendor ID on www.google.com/linux
[01:46] <jdumont> ah bummer... if i install edubuntu via the ftp I'll have to use my own bandwidth
[01:47] <Ninwa> Hello, can anybody help me with my wireless conection under Ubuntu, more specifically how to specific the wan's WPA. I used to run my hotspot unprotected but recently decided to change that, but there's only an option for WEP password in the wireless properties menu.
[01:47] <jdumont> i'm leeching of the next door guys wifi
[01:47] <Ninwa> specify*
[01:47] <Ninwa> wlan*
[01:47] <tawker> leaching, how nice ;)
[01:47] <gloin> kubuntu FTW =] 
[01:47] <LinuxJones> Mabus06, you resized a partition and free'd the space or deleted all of the files on a 40 gig partition ?
[01:48] <GoDawgs> can someone tell me what would cause Kubuntu to completely shut off my computer once loaded to "Setting up the clock"...
[01:48] <GoDawgs> ?
[01:48] <zphinx> dabar: still awake? :)
[01:48] <tk401> Ninwa, if you go http://www.ubuntuforums.org, do a search for WPA and you'll find a threat regarding WPA in ubuntu
[01:48] <tk401> Ninwa, it's got a whole walkthrough for it
[01:48] <gkelly> Does anyone know what package contains 'qgl.h'? It's an OpenGL header for Qt, but I can't find any package with it
[01:48] <Ninwa> a thread I hope :)
[01:48] <Ninwa> okay, thank you
[01:48] <Mabus06> LinuxJones; tried to resize my 80gb partition to use like 10gb for ubuntu. But the smallest I can resize it to is 79.9GB
[01:48] <Hobbsee> !tell Ninwa about wpa
[01:48] <brenner> GoDawgs: have you tried #kubuntu or searched the forum yet?
[01:48] <apt514> tk401 thanks
[01:48] <tk401> Ninwa, yes, thread! lol no threats on ubuntu, just humanity
[01:49] <tk401> apt514, sorry i couldn't help more than that :-/
[01:49] <SAAD3000> how do I remove ipw2200.ko modules from /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200/ipw2200.ko ???
[01:49] <GoDawgs> brenner: yeah.... I did... doesn't look like very many people know
[01:49] <serbia> which version of kernel ubunta have?
[01:49] <OmegaAlpha> hey whats the command to get gkrellm to load on startup?
[01:49] <GoDawgs> brenner: but thanks for the suggestion
[01:49] <LinuxJones> Mabus06, it's best to resize your partition in windows (if that's what your using on the other partitions)
[01:49] <Mabus06> LinuxJones: how? I'm on windows right now.
[01:49] <gloin> dang it I wish they'd update firesomething for 1.5 =] 
[01:49] <tk401> serbia, i think the current is 2.6.14
[01:50] <GoDawgs> thought that since it was ubuntu that someone could help me here
[01:50] <LinuxJones> Mabus06, you can't do that under Disk Managment or whatever it's called ?
[01:50] <brenner> GoDawgs: do you see anything regarding ntpdate before it shuts off?
[01:50] <serbia> is there any command to find out that?
[01:50] <dabaR_> zphinx: sup?
[01:50] <Mabus06> LinuxJones: In control panel that is?
[01:50] <biovore> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion <-- for installing firefox  1.5 on ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:50] <dabaR_> serbia: uname -a
[01:50] <dereinevogelda> hi. i'd like to use mpd together with gmpc. the server is there, gmpc connects but i can't play a song.
[01:50] <BDC> Mabius06: When I was installing I sucessfully used partlogic (http://visopsys.org/partlogic/) to resize my boot NTFS partition
[01:50] <GoDawgs> brenner: um... i'm not sure... is there a way i can disable the ntupdate?
[01:50] <zphinx> Was going to ask about putting scripts in the rc.* and init.d catalouges, anything in particular i need to do with the file?
[01:50] <LinuxJones> Mabus06, do a defrag on the drive first to arrange all your data to the front of the disk first.
[01:50] <jdumont> i spent a whole freekin day trying to get kopete running under suse and novell when I realized gaim worked right from the get go.  <sigh>
[01:51] <dabaR_> zphinx: no, just put it in the dir, as long as it is x
[01:51] <biovore> ubuntu's install can resize ntfs
[01:51] <brenner> GoDawgs: nvm, it's probably not it then.
[01:51] <serbia> thanx
[01:51] <zphinx> x?
[01:51] <GoDawgs> brenner: bummer ... :(
[01:51] <zphinx> ah, executeable.
[01:51] <dabaR_> exec
[01:51] <zphinx> dabaR, can i privmsg you?
[01:51] <marc> How can I get the root scripts for Nautilus, specifically the "root nautilus here", "root gedit" and "Root terminal"?
[01:51] <brenner> GoDawgs: so this is a kubuntu install?  or ubuntu with kde?
[01:51] <dabaR_> no, why?
[01:51] <LinuxJones> Mabus06, I don't run windows but I think it's in the control panel yeah under disk managment or something
[01:51] <GoDawgs> brenner: it's kubuntu...
[01:52] <SAAD3000> how do I remove ipw2200.ko modules from /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200/ipw2200.ko ?????
[01:52] <zphinx> need to show you the script, not quite sure if it will take it
[01:52] <GoDawgs> brenner: maybe i should d/l ubuntu and then put kde on there????
[01:52] <GoDawgs> brenner: but still... i shouldn't have to do that...
[01:52] <biovore> SAAD3000: you probably don;t want to delete the ipw2200.ko
[01:52] <LinuxJones> SAAD3000, you can just rename the file (but why ?)
[01:52] <YogSothoth> Hi
[01:52] <dabaR_> zphinx: paste.ubuntu-nl.org and if you can run it in your terminal, it should worky,
[01:52] <lar> Hi
[01:52] <BDC> Mabus06/LinuxJones: Unfortunately Windows has no built in method to resize a partition while keeping the data, hence the need for something like Partition Magic or Partition Logic
[01:52] <brenner> GoDawgs: i agree.  what about the mailing list?
[01:53] <SAAD3000> LinuxJones ipw2200 is blocking my connection on network card
[01:53] <GoDawgs> brenner: yeah, i could post it there... maybe that would be the best thing
[01:53] <jdumont> well here i go... installing edubuntu .....
[01:53] <YogSothoth> Just installed postgresql-8.0 with Synaptic and I can't manage to connect to the server. What is the default user/pass ? I've not been prompted for this during install as described in PostegreSQL doc...
[01:53] <SAAD3000> LinuxJones how do I know if ipw2200 is not loaded in my modules??
[01:53] <LinuxJones> BDC, that's good to know, for the folks who come in here and have only ever run windows thanks for the info :)
[01:53] <zphinx> placed it in init.d ahd chown 777'ed it, didnt run for some reason, im guessing its trying to run before the network is set up, and i have no idea wich rc to put it in
[01:54] <GoDawgs> brenner: i know it works though... i've had dapper (ubuntu) on there before... it ran beautifully
[01:54] <brenner> GoDawgs: ironic.  i thought dapper would be the least stable :-/
[01:54] <jdumont> ah.....879kB
[01:54] <BDC> NP, As I said earlier http://visopsys.org/partlogic/ is worth checking out as a freebie partition resize program
[01:54] <LinuxJones> SAAD3000, you can do an "lsmod | grep 2200" and see if it's loaded
[01:55] <dabaR_> zphinx: CHangeOWNer CHange MODe, 777 is no good, btw, someone will erase it.
[01:55] <Mabus06> bdc / LinuxJones : How come I never had problems before installing ubuntu with windows already installed, with no data loss? I did the resizing in the ubuntu installation.
[01:55] <GoDawgs> brenner: I know.... me too!
[01:55] <SAAD3000> LinuxJones oke its not thanx
[01:55] <GoDawgs> i loved dapper... it was the first OS to see my broadcom wlan
[01:55] <LinuxJones> Mabus06, are you manually setting up the partition ?
[01:55] <GoDawgs> still can't do anything with it... but at least it sees it now
[01:55] <zphinx> err i meant chmod
[01:55] <benny> hi
[01:55] <zphinx> anyhow, it was executable.
[01:55] <biovore> chmod +x
[01:55] <Mabus06> LinuxJones: used the first option... resize the current partition
[01:56] <Mabus06> or something to that effect
[01:56] <benny> huhu :)
[01:56] <heidi> Hey guys
[01:56] <heidi> Where can I get libdvdcss??
[01:56] <dabaR_> !dvd
[01:56] <ubotu> methinks dvd is DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:56] <jdumont> should i quit this chat before I finish downloading the edubuntu from the repositories?
[01:56] <dabaR_> jdumont: the two are unrelated
[01:56] <benny> no
[01:56] <LinuxJones> Mabus06, I just deleted the windows partiton that came with my new laptop, that was my favorite part of buying a new computer :)
[01:57] <benny> lol :D
[01:57] <BDC> Mabus06/LinuxJones: I think for that to work the partition needs to be drfeagged so there is blank space at the end of the partition for it to edit out, when I installed Ubuntu onto my thinkpad and tried that option it would only let me shrink the partition by 7MB, that's when I DL'd partitionlogic which allowed me to resize properly
[01:57] <dabaR_> zphinx: you can post to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:57] <makaveli> !limewire
[01:57] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[01:57] <x10z> can wine run warcraft3 ?
[01:57] <biovore> www.winehq.org
[01:57] <jdumont> where can i see my download speed?
[01:57] <makaveli> aoght
[01:57] <makaveli> nicebot
[01:57] <heidi> What would a one line install for libdvdcss from there look like??
[01:57] <makaveli> jdumont,  u mean traffic ?
[01:57] <jdumont> speed
[01:57] <LinuxJones> BDC, yes I already suggested him defragging his drive, that's probably what's going on.
[01:58] <dabaR_> makaveli: the bot was taught...
[01:58] <marius_> im pissed off
[01:58] <dabaR_> jdumont: download something.
[01:58] <makaveli> jdumont,  i use tcptrack
[01:58] <marius_> Does somebody know how i can get sound on my lame computer?!??!?!!?
[01:58] <marius_> i got
[01:58] <makaveli> tcptrack -i eth0
[01:58] <dabaR_> and speed is dependent on the site you download from
[01:58] <GoDawgs> when will dapper be released?  I heard april but has that been put off?
[01:58] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, I'm looking to install a Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory server, any links or whatnot?  Forums don't seem too helpful for the server installs
[01:58] <marius_> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC '97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:58] <dabaR_> GoDawgs: no
[01:59] <jdumont> tcptrack command not found
[01:59] <biovore> Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory server is just like quake3
[01:59] <Mabus06> My other machine won't start up ubuntu.. freezes after checking battery state.
[01:59] <jdumont> this install is only a few minutes old
[01:59] <`JD> YAY! Linux
[01:59] <GoDawgs> dabaR_: so we're still on track for April?
[01:59] <biovore> Mabus06: must have a bogus acpi controller
[01:59] <FlannelKing> alright, Ive never installed a quake3 server either, but to be honest, I cant even find a download for the server
[01:59] <Seveas> GoDawgs, any rumour about delays is nonsense
[01:59] <biovore> Mabus06: try noacpi option on the end of the kernel arguments
[01:59] <BDC> LJ: i should have done that but it PL worked without it which was nice as i was in a hurry
[01:59] <GoDawgs> Seveas: soooo very good to hear
[01:59] <elkbuntu> lol
[02:00] <GoDawgs> thanks Seveas
[02:00] <dabaR_> GoDawgs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4?highlight=%28flight4%29
[02:00] <Mabus06> Okay, gonna go try this partition logic.
[02:00] <ozgurgerilla> hi all
[02:00] <SzingSzang> how can i change the GTKConfig cflags ??
[02:00] <dabaR_> partition logic:)
[02:00] <GoDawgs> dabaR_: thanks so much... that's fantastic
[02:00] <marius_> !!!NEED HELP!!!! 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC '97 Audio Controller (rev 02) i dont have sound!!!!!!!!
[02:00] <ploom> mm - can different (gtk?) theme for gnome make overall responsiveness better?
[02:00] <ubotu> marius_: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:00] <`JD> Why is everyhing so freakin huge on ubuntu?
[02:01] <dabaR_> `JD: you need to fixres
[02:01] <dabaR_> !fixres
[02:01] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:01] <SzingSzang> lol :D
[02:01] <SzingSzang> !fixres
[02:01] <LinuxJones> marius_, how many sound cards do you have in that computer ?
[02:01] <SzingSzang> !somecookiesandmilk
[02:01] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SzingSzang
[02:01] <marius_> This onboard
[02:01] <marius_> LinuxJones
[02:01] <SzingSzang> damn :(
[02:01] <jdumont> dont' think you can resize partitions from within windows.. need partition majic or something
[02:01] <Seveas> !bot abuse
[02:01] <ubotu> bot abuse is, like, a bannable offense
[02:02] <elkbuntu> jdumont, gparted
[02:02] <GoDawgs> brenner: i'm burning ubuntu dapper now... we'll see how it goes... i'm going to install it after it burns...
[02:02] <SzingSzang> hello ?
[02:02] <elkbuntu> jdumont, there is a gparted live cd
[02:02] <SzingSzang> sorry, but is there a way to change the gtk-config --cflags ?
[02:02] <Ninwa> thanks tk401 and hob, I got WPA working on my ubuntu lappy :)
[02:02] <LinuxJones> marius_, right clicck the sound volume applet and select properties do you see your intel card listed in the device dropdown box ?
[02:02] <ozgurgerilla> guy's I have free partition but dnt have a cd-rw can I still install  ubuntu?
[02:02] <Ninwa> hobbsee*
[02:03] <Hobbsee> Ninwa: yay!
[02:03] <marius_> yeah
[02:03] <elkbuntu> ozgurgerilla, can your computer read a cd at all?
[02:03] <SzingSzang> sorry, but is there a way to change the gtk-config --cflags ?
[02:03] <ozgurgerilla> it can
[02:03] <marius_> LinuxJones, yeah i can see it
[02:03] <elkbuntu> ozgurgerilla, then it can install from it :)
[02:03] <SzingSzang> !imhungry
[02:03] <ubotu> SzingSzang: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:03] <LinuxJones> marius_, ok open a terminal and type lsmod | grep snd       is there anything listed ?
[02:03] <ozgurgerilla> well I haven't got a ubuntu cd?
[02:03] <Ninwa> cheers
[02:04] <dabaR_> ozgurgerilla: go to a library and burn it
[02:04] <elkbuntu> !shipit
[02:04] <ubotu> hmm... shipit is For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[02:04] <ozgurgerilla> cannot burn cd's
[02:04] <N6pfk> no 2d with ati driver?
[02:04] <marius_> yeah many thing
[02:04] <jdumont> the repository download window is showing the speed..... 193kB
[02:04] <N6pfk> opps no 3d with ati driver
[02:04] <elkbuntu> ubotu tell ozgurgerilla about shipit
[02:04] <GoDawgs> !shipit
[02:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, shipit is For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[02:04] <jdumont> well it's unpacking
[02:04] <bluesign> anyone know a channel for "project management" or "software development processes"?
[02:05] <sungazing> can someone tell me how to install programs so that all users on my computer will have it by default?
[02:05] <Mr^Q> i've sound problem
[02:05] <dabaR_> sungazing: just install it
[02:05] <ploom> just fyi i was asking about different (gtk?) theme for gnome making overall responsiveness (for gnome even) better because I changed it to Simple (under theme settings) and it appears to be somewhat faster even (besides having smaller scrollbars that I like) :-)
[02:05] <LinuxJones> marius_, ok go into the sound mixer and check the settings make sure nothing is muted and volumes are at mid-positions
[02:05] <marius_> in the yellow sone?
[02:05] <jdumont> and make sure your speakers are plugged in.... it's happened.
[02:05] <dabaR_> ploom: you could use a different wm.
[02:06] <heidi> none of those seveas links are working...
[02:06] <heidi> :(
[02:06] <dabaR_> Seveas:
[02:06] <ploom> dabaR, I did - xfce, but now Im back to gnome
[02:06] <Seveas> dabaR, ?
[02:06] <sungazing>  can someone tell me how to install programs so that all users on my computer will have it by default?
[02:06] <dabaR_> heidi would like to use your links
[02:06] <Seveas> sungazing, system  admin  package manager
[02:06] <Seveas> dabaR_, apt-get install links2 
[02:06] <tim_> during compile it halts with an error where would the best place to trouble shoot be
[02:06] <Seveas> which links specifically?
[02:07] <Mr^Q> okei Thanks
[02:07] <marius_> LinuxJones done
[02:07] <heidi> all of them are giving me errors
[02:07] <marius_> then what?
[02:07] <sungazing> do I have to install as root?
[02:07] <dabaR_> pah. no,  I mean links on your site, I think heidi wants css2
[02:07] <minimec> Hi. I have a HP nc8000 Laptop and HP has two different Wifi Cards for my Computer. The 'old' one is based on the Atheros Chip, the 'new' Card has an Intel BG2200. Both of them should work with ubuntu. But... Tell me... What would be your choice?
[02:07] <jdumont> okay  i've done the sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop
[02:07] <jdumont>  thing... now what?
[02:07] <ozgurgerilla> elkbuntu: ubotu tell ozgurgerilla about shipit
[02:07] <heidi> Can someone give me an insall script for libdvdcss2?
[02:07] <Yukaze> Heya all, i just installed ubuntu, and i think my computer crashes when trying to run it... it comes up with "GRUB loading, please wait" but it has been doing this for like 15 minutes now :/ any ideas?
[02:07] <Seveas> heidi, be more specific (posting all errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org would help)
[02:07] <tim_> im getting an internal compiler error
[02:07] <LinuxJones> marius_, ok hit alt + F2 and type gstreamer-properties (it will auto-complete for you)
[02:08] <heidi> it just gives a repo error saying it wont connect
[02:08] <dabaR_> Seveas: heidi would like to download from the seveas repository, libdvdcss2
[02:08] <heidi> I just want to do a wget, but I dont know how :(
[02:08] <_jason> ubotu: tell heidi about dvdcss
[02:08] <Seveas> heidi, again, paste the complete error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or I can't say anything useful
[02:08] <dabaR_> wget _url_
[02:08] <LinuxJones> marius_, for output sink select alsa and then press "Test"
[02:09] <heidi> brb
[02:09] <_jason> Seveas: there are about 10 different dvdcss factoids either recommending libdvdread3 or your repo and they are not consistent... can we change that?
[02:09] <`JD> everything is still huge!
[02:09] <elkbuntu> ozgurgerilla did ubotu not send you a private message?
[02:09] <Seveas> !listvals dvd
[02:09] <tim_> do i need to unmount the cd drives when running the compiler?
[02:09] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'dvd' by value (7 shown): libdvdcss2 ;; dvd #DEL# ;; dvdcss ;; common #DEL# ;; ommon #DEL# ;; dvd ;; libdvdcss.
[02:09] <GoDawgs> has anyone been able to sync a ppc to either evolution or kontact?
[02:09] <marius_> I get a error message
[02:10] <Seveas> ugh, time to clean uo
[02:10] <_jason> ok not 10 :)
[02:10] <GoDawgs> (specifically a Dell Axim X30 High)
[02:10] <BDC> minimec: Under XP I've always found the intelbg2200 to be a very stable card while the atheros chipsets tend to be a little more flakey, as for ubuntu, i have an atheros based d-link pcmcia card running fine and also a 2200 internal running fine
[02:10] <marius_> What do i choosre
[02:10] <marius_> ESD or OSS or ALSA
[02:10] <LinuxJones> marius_, ok go back to the preferences tab under the volume icon and select the alsa card from the dropdown list
[02:11] <LinuxJones> marius_, alsa
[02:11] <minimec> BDC THX. Do they work with the Kismet-Software?
[02:11] <JLiquorish> hi, how do i extract a .tar.bz2 file?
[02:11] <LinuxJones> marius_, do that first then test sound again
[02:11] <marius_> yeah
[02:11] <LinuxJones> JLiquorish, tar xfjv filename.tar.bz2
[02:11] <marius_> Dont hear anything on sink
[02:12] <JLiquorish> thanks
[02:12] <BDC> minimec: kismet? forgive my ignorance
[02:12] <Seveas> _jason, fixed 
[02:12] <marius_> Now the program freezed
[02:12] <_jason> Seveas: thanks :)
[02:12] <LinuxJones> marius_, paste the output of lsmod to www.pastebin.ca
[02:13] <Tedd> Hello.
[02:13] <kethinov> ok, can someone help me fix my Grub with a knoppix livecd? i have a root terminal and i ran the grub command... now i have a grub shell. but i'm not sure what to do. how can i reinstall grub using the config file in /dev/sda1's /boot/grub folder?
[02:13] <minimec> BDC Kismet is a wifi software which allows you to see (and use) the wifi-Networks around you ... ;-)
[02:13] <Tedd> I've been getting this strange error every time I try to run updates or run Synaptic
[02:13] <LinuxJones> marius_, you must have the modules for oss installed as well as the alsa modules
[02:13] <Tedd> It's pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8826
[02:13] <Cyblivious> can someone give me a very good link for setting up bt878 tv tuners for tvtime?
[02:13] <Tedd> I've gotten this error before I reformatted.
[02:13] <jdumont> well thanks for all the help... i'll just reboot and see if i have edubuntu
[02:13] <Tedd> I never knew what it meant.
[02:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell Tedd about enter
[02:13] <marius_> http://pastebin.ca/42104
[02:14] <Seveas> Tedd, sudo apt-get update
[02:14] <minimec> BDC: some kind of wifi-radar ...
[02:14] <Tedd> Seveas: Thanks.
[02:14] <_jason> Tedd: do you know what ftp://ftp.free.fr is?
[02:14] <BDC> minimec: the vaio with the atheros is on, let me do a quick apt-get
[02:14] <Tedd> Well, .fr I'm guessing is somewhere related to France. So.
[02:14] <Tedd> Not really.
[02:15] <minimec> BDC: It needs some config!!!
[02:15] <tim_> make-kpkg -initrd --revision=ck1 kernel_image   where it says kernel image do i need to call it something
[02:15] <Tedd> Could you please enlighten me, _Jason?
[02:15] <_jason> Tedd: it's PLF
[02:15] <Tedd> PLF?
[02:15] <_jason> Tedd: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[02:16] <BDC> minimec: so i see, reading the man page now
[02:16] <JLiquorish> i am having trouble installing new icons
[02:16] <brenner> JLiquorish: you need to elaborate
[02:16] <com4> When i try to use the python2.4-sqlite2 package, it segfaults on me
[02:16] <marius_> LinuxJones: http://pastebin.ca/42104
[02:16] <marius_> brb
[02:16] <Tedd> _jason: So those steps will fix my problems, I'm guessing?
[02:16] <Tedd> Thank you very much.
[02:16] <minimec> BDC: You have to modify the config file and enter your card... It's explained in the config file...
[02:17] <JLiquorish> ok, i have installed the icons as it told me to on the art gnome site
[02:17] <_jason> Tedd: yeah, what seveas said should do it
[02:17] <JLiquorish> but they are not showing up in the theme preferences
[02:17] <GoDawgs> i take it no one uses a ppc...
[02:17] <_jason> Tedd: I just didn't know what it was at first either and thought you may want to
[02:17] <Tedd> _jason: I did sudo apt-get update but it gave me the same error
[02:17] <GoDawgs> or at least don't sync them with Evolution or Kontact
[02:17] <GoDawgs> :(
[02:18] <_jason> Tedd: pastebin what your /etc/apt/sources.list looks like
[02:18] <LinuxJones> marius_, I need the full output of lsmod (all the loaded modules)
[02:18] <Tedd> Ah, damn. I forgot what the command was to open it.
[02:18] <_jason> Tedd: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <Tedd> Which was it? just sudo gedit?
[02:18] <Tedd> Thanks.
[02:19] <Tedd> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8827
[02:19] <minimec> BDC: So your Vaio is running well on Linux. I always thought, that the Vaio were normally not 100% compatible with Linux.
[02:20] <JLiquorish> brenner: can you help?
[02:20] <Madpilot> coolness for Dapper: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-14/
[02:20] <jdumont> yup.... looks like edubuntu to me
[02:21] <Tedd> I've heard Dapper is amazing from a friend. (He updated to the beta). The window animations are supposed to be amazing?
[02:21] <BDC> minimec: the vaio runs better under linux than it did XP, it was originally a 2K machine and the drivers for all the extra stuff (jog dial, memory stick slot, etc) never worked under XP - ubuntu found everything right at the get go!
[02:21] <marius_> LinuxJones ok
[02:21] <brenner> JLiquorish: i don't know how the art gnome site says to install
[02:21] <brenner> JLiquorish: did you try sys >prefs>theme
[02:21] <brenner> JLiquorish: then click install theme
[02:21] <JLiquorish> icons wont install by doing that
[02:21] <minimec> BDC: Cool :-)
[02:22] <marius_> LinuxJones http://pastebin.ca/42105
[02:22] <BDC> minimec: kismet looks like something I should play with when I have more time, thins might be of interest though http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[02:22] <Tedd> _jason, any ideas?
[02:22] <brenner> JLiquorish: if they are an archived icon set, they should
[02:22] <jdumont> gotta go... wife's been gone for a couple days and I have to clean up the house before she gets back.  thanks again.
[02:22] <_jason> Tedd: ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ is timing out for me.  It must be down.  You can comment that part and try again later or try using the primary server in that site that I linked you to before
[02:22] <brenner> JLiquorish: if they're individual....*then* you have to install it some other way
[02:22] <JLiquorish> so i did cd ~/.icons && tar xzjf /home/jason/Downloads/tango.tar.bz2
[02:23] <Tedd> _jason, does that particular server go down a bit?
[02:23] <JLiquorish> when i click theme details and open the theme folder it shows the tango icons there
[02:23] <Tedd> I remember this same error from before.
[02:23] <minimec> BDC: No Problem. I thank you. I am happy to hear that both cards work.
[02:23] <_jason> Tedd: I don't know, I don't keep PLF in my sources
[02:23] <Tedd> Okay. Well, thank you all the same.
[02:23] <minimec> as?
[02:23] <minimec> as?
[02:25] <BDC> minimec: my pleasure, good luck
[02:25] <LinuxJones> marius_, your sound should be working fine I don't know what's going on :(
[02:25] <brenner> JLiquorish: so what's the prob?  when you click on them, nothing changes?
[02:25] <marius_> :(
[02:25] <JLiquorish> when i go to theme details> icons then they are not there
[02:26] <marius_> LinuxJones, i did find the fault
[02:26] <concept10> Anyone using a ATI card with the fglrx drivers?  I couldnt get them to work with my laptop. Im wondering what I did wrong. I used Seveas' packages.
[02:26] <minimec> BDC: Thanks for the Link. I have the same 'monitor'-problem with a Cisco pcmcia wifi b Card :-)
[02:26] <marius_> I checked behind my computer
[02:26] <kf2002ch> how to run dvd's with ubuntu
[02:26] <LinuxJones> marius_, i am sure it's jsut a mixer setting or something it should be working look around in those settings i told you about
[02:26] <_jason> JLiquorish: you just need to open themes > preferences and drag and drop the tar.bz2 file into the window
[02:26] <LinuxJones> marius_, what ?
[02:26] <marius_> LinuxJones think what was wrong behind the computer
[02:26] <benplaut> shogo rocks :D
[02:26] <LinuxJones> marius_, haha
[02:27] <marius_> thats the lamest thin i ever done
[02:27] <marius_> ...
[02:27] <marius_> thing*
[02:27] <LinuxJones> marius_, that's the funniest computer help story of all time :D
[02:27] <marius_> iknow
[02:27] <marius_> i been searching googling and screaming for help!
[02:27] <Tedd> _jason: I ended up trying both primary and secondary, both must be having problems. I just commented out. Thanks very much. Later.
[02:28] <JLiquorish> _jason: file format is not valid
[02:28] <_jason> Tedd: np
[02:28] <marius_> then now half past 2 in the night( im living in norway yes)
[02:28] <elkbuntu> marius_, pick it up and take ten steps back.. if it comes with you it aint plugged in ;)
[02:28] <dubnium> question: is the wine repository working for breezy 64?
[02:28] <_jason> JLiquorish: ok guess it only does tar.gz, link me to this file
[02:28] <eugman> hey is there a way to see if any package from a repo is installed?
[02:29] <_jason> eugman: apt-cache policy package
[02:29] <JLiquorish> _jason: one minute i think i found the answer
[02:29] <marius_> Oyeah!
[02:29] <marius_> Now i like Linux agian!
[02:29] <pinkpanther> I can't seem to uninstall BerkeleyDB. I typed make uninstall in the directory. yet it still is in the /usr/local directory
[02:29] <elkbuntu> lol
[02:29] <FlakJacket> hey _jason thanks for the help on my mouse
[02:29] <albertoas> >hELLO
[02:29] <_jason> FlakJacket: np
[02:30] <marius_> *why did didnt i trust you my fair lady tux*
[02:30] <albertoas> NMAP HELP
[02:30] <eugman> Jason: I'm sorry i wasn't clear. I wan't to see if a repository has any packages instaled.
[02:30] <dubnium> anyone have wine installed on breezy??
[02:30] <ompaul> albertoas, please don't use caps lock
[02:30] <albertoas> ok
[02:30] <ompaul> albertoas, what do you mean by nmap help?
[02:30] <marius_> ok on XMMS how do i add al the song (in 30 dirs)
[02:30] <eugman> dubnium: I do but unless you want to know how to do that I can't help.
[02:30] <IdleOne> pinkpanther:  sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:30] <_jason> eugman: you want to search a repository for a package?
[02:31] <eugman> no jason
[02:31] <brenner> marius_: you can't.  which is why i like beep-media-player better
[02:31] <dubnium> I would like to know
[02:31] <logan001101> hi guys, i cant get mplayer in dapper, it requires libreadline4 while dapper using libreadline5, what the *beep* can i do for it?
[02:31] <marius_> what is the best mp3-player to linux!?!?
[02:31] <eugman> I wan't to check a repository and see if it's in use by my computer
[02:31] <eugman> To see if it's required for future updates
[02:31] <marius_> i want it to be nice to look at
[02:31] <dubnium> eugman, i dont think that the wine repository is working.. what can I do?
[02:32] <_jason> eugman: oh I see... I don't know how to do that :)
[02:32] <marius_> *THnx to all the peps that have helped me , youre the best!!!*
[02:32] <ubuntu> you aree welcome
[02:32] <eugman> dubnium: so do you need wine installed or updated.
[02:32] <marius_> ubuntu, remove the one e:P
[02:32] <marius_> are
[02:33] <dubnium> installed
[02:33] <LinuxJones> marius_, that's easy enugh to happer
[02:33] <logan001101> anyone>
[02:33] <ubuntu> you mean me
[02:33] <dubnium> eugman, tried apt but no luck
[02:33] <ubuntu> what is e:p
[02:33] <eugman> When you do a search in synaptic for wine does the package come up?
[02:33] <eugman> oh ok
[02:33] <dubnium> nope
[02:33] <marius_> LinuxJones im just kidding around
[02:33] <LinuxJones> :)
[02:33] <pinkpanther> the problem is, I didn't install Berkeley through apt-get
[02:33] <eugman> Do you have ht e universe/multiverse parts enabled?
[02:34] <pinkpanther> I need Berkeley  v >=3 and <= 4
[02:34] <marius_> What mp3 player do you use LinuxJones?
[02:34] <eugman> hmm appatently you don't spell the "ht e". Darn typing.
[02:34] <dubnium> eugman, for which entry?
[02:34] <ubuntu> hey guys dis my first time on linux and think its great
[02:34] <pinkpanther> theres 4.2 but it won't let me compile kdevelop with it
[02:34] <marius_> Great ubuntu!
[02:34] <logan001101> guys, im having a real problem with dapper
[02:34] <marius_> Just keep using linux
[02:34] <marius_> Its my first time too
[02:34] <ubuntu> chears marius
[02:34] <brenner> ubuntu: you might want to change youre nick :)
[02:34] <eugman> I 'm pretty sure if you do a search with the correct repos enabled a package called "wine" should come up.
[02:34] <logan001101> i cant get mplayer
[02:34] <LinuxJones> marius_, i use rhythmbox but you will need to install support for the mp3 codec before you can play mp3's
[02:34] <ubuntu> unfortunately am runnig the live cd
[02:34] <ploom> anyone using lastfm radio on ubuntu?
[02:35] <ubuntu>  so would be going back to xp pro later
[02:35] <ompaul> logan001101, you mean you can't get it for dapper?
[02:35] <dubnium> ive had it come up in the past..... havent messed with my repos much.. does it coem up for you?
[02:35] <logan001101> ompaul: yeah
[02:35] <dubnium> think i can see your sources.list?
[02:35] <pinkpanther> for some reason when I try to install kdevlop it thinks i have db4.4 even when I removed it from /usr/local
[02:35] <eugman> Yeah in synaptic you should be able to find wine if you have uiverse enabled?
[02:35] <logan001101> it requires libreadline4 while dapper 's using libreadline5
[02:35] <marius_> Is Banshee good?
[02:35] <eugman> ack bad ?
[02:36] <eugman> Stupid question mark wants to join in the conversation all the time.
[02:36] <LinuxJones> marius_, amarok for kde is the best I have ever used, in any case you need to do >> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:36] <ploom> asked about anyone using lastfm radio on ubuntu hoping its in ubuntu repositories too...
[02:36] <ompaul> logan001101, run this >>> /msg ubotu info mplayer dapper <<< and no I do not have an answer but I guess if you looked at the aims of dapper you might see what is expected to be rung
[02:36] <dubnium> eugman, got universe... but nothing
[02:36] <logan001101> if i want to install libreadline4 i have to remove all the kernel and install the old one
[02:36] <eugman> hmmm hold on a moment
[02:36] <dsas> How do I get thunderbird to reply-to-list ?
[02:36] <LordMelkor> is there anyway to register the irc protocol in firefox
[02:36] <marius_> hmm i have debian ithink not KDE
[02:37] <logan001101> ompaul: thanks
[02:37] <LordMelkor> so if i click an irc:// link
[02:37] <LordMelkor> it will open xchat
[02:37] <eugman> ok. Is synaptic enabled?
[02:37] <LinuxJones> marius_, yesh I don't use it for the same reason
[02:37] <eugman> er open...
[02:37] <brenner> marius_: debian's an OS, not a DE
[02:37] <marius_> i dont have a clue:P
[02:37] <Madpilot> marius_: you mean Gnome not KDE?
[02:38] <LinuxJones> marius_, your running Ubuntu right ?
[02:38] <marius_> yeah
[02:38] <JLiquorish> ok fixed the icon issue, how can i install a GDM theme without logging in as root?
[02:38] <marius_> i tried and it didnt work
[02:38] <marius_> ..
[02:38] <eugman> dubnium: If you haven't already open synaptic and tell me when it is running.
[02:38] <logan001101> ompaul: 'package does not exist'
[02:38] <dsas> LordMelkor, There was a spec to add the functionality so I don't know how easy it is to add
[02:38] <BigDaddy> evening guys
[02:38] <dubnium> k
[02:38] <LinuxJones> marius_, you can install kde but installing kubuntu-desktop package if you want.
[02:38] <brenner> JLiquorish: sudo.
[02:38] <brenner> JLiquorish: you can't.  it's a system-wide change
[02:38] <Alexi5> hello
[02:38] <LinuxJones> marius_, err by*
[02:39] <Alexi5> ubuntites
[02:39] <JLiquorish> ok, so how do i go about installing a gdm theme?
[02:39] <dubnium> well just a sec.. i changed a repo now its having an issue
[02:39] <LordMelkor> and is it possible to write mircesque scripts for xchat
[02:39] <brenner> JLiquorish: sys>admin>login screen
[02:39] <pinkpanther> whats the easiest way to get kdevelop installed?
[02:39] <marius_> GRRR, last time im listing on my teacher
[02:39] <marius_> He said: "XMMS is the greatest!"
[02:39] <LordMelkor> xmms is good
[02:39] <marius_> ... idiot...
[02:39] <brenner> JLiquorish: then themed greeter>install new theme
[02:39] <dsas> apt-get install kdevelop3 in a terminal
[02:40] <marius_> LordMelkor noo
[02:40] <LordMelkor> i use xmms for mp3s
[02:40] <marius_> "ok"
[02:40] <LordMelkor> have done so for like 2 months
[02:40] <marius_> But it isnt the greatest
[02:40] <dubnium> eugman, synaptic is up
[02:40] <LordMelkor> its like winamp
[02:40] <BigDaddy> Does anyone here have an AMD64 chipset with the 64bit ubuntu AND run WINE?
[02:40] <marius_> yeah iknow.
[02:40] <LordMelkor> and winam is good
[02:40] <dubnium> bigdaddy, thats what im trying to do now
[02:40] <marius_> LordMelkor i have i too
[02:40] <eugman> ok now if it isn't already highlighted click "sections" in the lower left corner
[02:40] <marius_> but i hate it
[02:40] <JLiquorish> thanks
[02:40] <LordMelkor> try changing the skin
[02:40] <BigDaddy> I spend about 3 hours last night working on it dubnium
[02:41] <LordMelkor> the default skin is a little annoying
[02:41] <Alexi5> is it possible to install zend studio on ubuntu
[02:41] <marius_> Melkor, it dont add 30 dir at one time
[02:41] <marius_> ..
[02:41] <BigDaddy> I thought I was doing well compiling cuz it seemed so easy. but it didn't work
[02:41] <pinkpanther> what repository is kdevelop in?
[02:41] <dubnium> eugman.. k?
[02:41] <LordMelkor> marius_ it can add as many directories as you want...
[02:41] <eugman> next, click cross platform (universe) from the list
[02:42] <LordMelkor> marius_ my music is organized into lots of folders
[02:42] <marius_> Ok show me
[02:42] <BigDaddy> LordMelkor - you looking for a good music player?
[02:42] <dubnium> ..k
[02:42] <marius_> No wait a sec
[02:42] <`JD> brenner
[02:42] <LordMelkor> BigDaddy, no lol im just explaining to marius that xmms is good
[02:42] <`JD> check pm
[02:42] <marius_> There!
[02:42] <dubnium> not seeing wine in there...
[02:43] <marius_> I found it out myself
[02:43] <eugman> ok , dubinium. check the third to last package
[02:43] <BigDaddy> Marius - what are you looking for in an music player?
[02:43] <BigDaddy> LordMelkor, what do you think of Amarok
[02:43] <BigDaddy> ?
[02:43] <marius_> Hmm
[02:43] <dubnium> eugman, vcdtools??
[02:43] <phiber_optic> why can't I ssh to my computer.. before I was albe but know that I updated kernel I cant
[02:43] <marius_> I can try it
[02:43] <eugman> hmmm
[02:43] <LordMelkor> BigDaddy I havent used it, but since i moved to linux from windows a few months ago
[02:43] <LordMelkor> xmms
[02:44] <LordMelkor> was a good find becuase it was familiar
[02:44] <LordMelkor> and had more features too
[02:44] <eugman> That's odd you apparently ARE missing wine. That can't be good.
[02:44] <marius_> i am now trying out amarok
[02:44] <BigDaddy> I am in love with Amarok. It is nothing like my beloved Amarok, but so far it has been a great player
[02:44] <dubnium> well what repo of yours are you getting it from?
[02:44] <BigDaddy> A lot of people would call it bloated however
[02:44] <eugman> Would you like a repo you can add to install wine? It has more recent versions though.
[02:44] <dubnium> ive done like a million apt-get updates
[02:44] <BigDaddy> I prefer to think of it as full featured
[02:44] <eugman> Well you should be able to get it from universe
[02:45] <wotnarg> How would one best go about nuking a partition and turning it into a vfat?
[02:45] <LordMelkor> i prefer programs that have plugin abilites but dont compe loaded
[02:45] <LordMelkor> then i can customize what i want
[02:45] <dubnium> ive got the wine.sourceforge.net repo too
[02:45] <eugman> Actually I've an idea. do you know how to use pastebin?
[02:45] <BigDaddy> wotnarg - partition tools can do that
[02:45] <eugman> oh really?
[02:45] <dubnium> not sure
[02:45] <zebraFusion> what's the ftp command to login
[02:45] <zebraFusion> after you ftp domain.here
[02:45] <wotnarg> BigDaddy: I was playing around with qtparted, but it didn't want to work.
[02:45] <eugman> let me find a link
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> zebraFusion: man ftp
[02:46] <zebraFusion> hatake_kakashi, I need the command, I've searched the man page
[02:46] <zebraFusion> Thanks
[02:46] <brenner> reconfigging xorg produces a backup copy of the original xorg.conf.  does anyone recall what it's called?
[02:46] <mark__> it has some random number appended to the end of the file name
[02:46] <wotnarg> brenner: its xorg.conf.date or some random number
[02:46] <LinuxJones> brenner, it's appended a random number at the end
[02:46] <eugman> ok dubinium go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> zebraFusion: try ftp user@passwd:host
[02:46] <brenner> thanks guys
[02:46] <BigDaddy> wotnarg - damn, that is what Iwas going to recommend
[02:46] <eugman> and post your sources.list
[02:47] <marius_> BigDaddy
[02:47] <eugman> do you know how to do that?
[02:47] <marius_> THNX!!!
[02:47] <pinkpanther> what command can search my entire directory, other than 'whereis'
[02:47] <dubnium> ya
[02:47] <marius_> I love you!
[02:47] <iwan> ihr seid alle schwull!!!
[02:47] <marius_> It is the so nice!
[02:47] <BigDaddy> marius_ - whats up?
[02:47] <marius_> amaroK <3
[02:47] <_jason> pinkpanther: locate, find
[02:47] <BigDaddy> marius_ - oh hell yeah
[02:48] <BigDaddy> marius_ - I love the wikipedia tab, the lyrics, the dynamic mode
[02:48] <dubnium> then...?
[02:48] <JLiquorish> =D my desktop looks so cool now
[02:48] <marius_> I need mp3 support tho!
[02:48] <BigDaddy> It like all the plugins my winamp had but put together cohesively
[02:48] <bronxcoder> hello all
[02:48] <eugman> then i'll tkae a look at your souces.list
[02:48] <hatake_kakashi> !tell marius_ about mp3
[02:48] <LinuxJones> marius_, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:48] <BigDaddy> you need the gstreamer library
[02:49] <BigDaddy> yeah, what LinuxJones said
[02:49] <dubnium> posted it as jamesrw
[02:49] <LordMelkor> does anyone know how to save xgamma settings?
[02:49] <eugman> I see
[02:49] <LordMelkor> everytime i restart
[02:49] <LordMelkor> the gamma settings are put back to all 1
[02:49] <ploom> where to dangling symlincs come for manpages?
[02:50] <BigDaddy> OK I have a question. I hate this XCHat 2.6.0 that came with Ubuntu. What does everyone here use?
[02:50] <wotnarg> konversation
[02:50] <wotnarg> But I actually use kubuntu, so :p
[02:50] <eugman> is there supposed to be a space in the sourceforge links? I don't know if that cause trouble or not
[02:50] <refuze2looze> whats wrong with xchat i like it
[02:50] <LordMelkor> BigDaddy, its the only worth while irc client for linux?
[02:50] <LordMelkor> but i hate it too
[02:50] <beniamino> irssi
[02:50] <eugman> nvm
[02:50] <LordMelkor> i miss mirc
[02:50] <eugman> that's what I have
[02:51] <dubnium> i can try and see... all examples i saw where like that
[02:51] <wotnarg> lots of irc clients around.
[02:51] <LordMelkor> xchat isnt very customizeable
[02:51] <BigDaddy> LordMelkor  - you are not serious are you?
[02:51] <crouton> mirc is a great app.
[02:51] <minimec> LordMelkor: What do you use as chat software?
[02:51] <ploom> how can it be that for ex /usr/share/man/man1/qtconfig.1.gz -> /etc/alternatives/qtconfig.1.gz at the same time as /etc/alternatives/qtconfig.1.gz points to /usr/share/man/man1/qtconfig.1.gz??
[02:51] <bronxcoder> could anyone tell me were "killall" is located on ubuntu and maybe point me in the right direction to a shell tool I could use to help me locate other tools (easyer than ls | grep '<whatever').  trying to install vmware tools in ubunto (set of device drivers that allow ubuntu to work properly with vmware)
[02:51] <LordMelkor> u yse xchat
[02:51] <LordMelkor> i use*
[02:51] <BigDaddy> Well, let I am not a hardcore IRC user. This client is just buggy as hell
[02:52] <BigDaddy> I used Miranda on Windows
[02:52] <Kyral> bronxcoder: which <command>
[02:52] <ploom> bronxcoder, how about a simple which?
[02:52] <eugman> hmmm I'm sorry dubinium. It looks fine to me so I guess this problem is out of my scope.
[02:52] <ompaul> LordMelkor, it is, you just need to look a little deeper click on help and there you have exactly how to make it do anything you want
[02:52] <LordMelkor> i use mirc on windows because i wrote a bunch of leecher scripts for it
[02:52] <bronxcoder> well first... trying to find "killall"
[02:52] <LordMelkor> :-p
[02:52] <dubnium> kk
[02:52] <hatake_kakashi> xchat was somewhat nice until I found out irssi and I loved it
[02:52] <dubnium> thnx anyway
[02:52] <Kyral> bronxcoder: which killall
[02:52] <bronxcoder> one sec
[02:53] <BigDaddy> does anyone else xchat behave weird when highlighting text?
[02:53] <eugman> Anyone here know how to check if a repository has no packages from it installed?
[02:53] <wotnarg> bronxcoder: whereis tells where the binary is
[02:53] <Kyral> I use Irssi
[02:53] <Kyral> wotnarg: so does which
[02:53] <ponds> anyone know if breezy has ipw2200 supportg installed by default?
[02:53] <LordMelkor> hmm i need to try this irssi
[02:53] <wotnarg> Kyral: pft, whereis has a cooler name :)
[02:53] <refuze2looze> BigDaddy, xchat is buggy??
[02:53] <LinuxJones> ponds, yes it does
[02:53] <ponds> LinuxJones: thanks
[02:53] <refuze2looze> seems damn stable to me
[02:53] <minimec> I wanted a transparent chat-software. So I started to use irssi (a lovely monstrer). I had to work on it, but ... it's worth it!
[02:54] <BigDaddy> refuze2looze - yeah, hard to imagin, huh?
[02:54] <Bergcube> minimec~  Transparent how?
[02:54] <ploom> still two questions - anyone used lastfm radio player on ubuntu and where from dangling symlinks come from?
[02:54] <refuze2looze> BigDaddy, i use xchat. i've never seen a bug and it's never crashed
[02:54] <bronxcoder> okay.  running  a perl setup doesn't specify which one.... using latest ubunto....reads: "Setup is unable to find the "killall" program on your machne. Please make sure it is installed. Do you want to specify the location of this program by hand?"
[02:54] <marius_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:54] <marius_> is only available from another source
[02:54] <marius_> E: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate
[02:54] <marius_> Sorry the paste
[02:54] <LordMelkor> i especially hate that xchat seemingly cant auto accept dcc transfers
[02:54] <LordMelkor> that really irritates me
[02:55] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: you have to activate universe
[02:55] <marius_> And how?
[02:55] <Bergcube> LordMelkor~  Sure it can.
[02:55] <LinuxJones> marius_, you need to apt-get update first
[02:55] <LordMelkor> how?!??!
[02:55] <mark__> LordMelkor, you can set xchat to auto-accept dcc transfers
[02:55] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, go to IRC > Auto Accept Files
[02:55] <LordMelkor> huh no irc menu.
[02:55] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[02:55] <marius_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[02:56] <minimec> Bergcube: I use Irssi with a transparent Eterm. I place it on the Desktop-Layer on my Fluxbox Desktop. Tje Chat os in a kind part of my Wallpaper. :-)
[02:56] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, what version of xchat are you using?
[02:56] <mark__> LordMelkor, right click and go to IRC > auto accept files
[02:56] <LordMelkor> the one that comes default with ubuntu
[02:56] <Dasnipa`> maria,  you need root access use sudo
[02:56] <AntMaz> hey when ever i load up an administrative command i type the password and nothing loads
[02:56] <LinuxJones> marius_, you need to add the universe repository first tho
[02:56] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, if you right click do you have an IRC menu?
[02:56] <marius_> maria?
[02:56] <LordMelkor> no
[02:56] <varsendagger> is there a way to revert to default?
[02:56] <hadnjury> I am having trouble installing ubuntu. It freezes at 52% when starting partition, can someone help me?
[02:56] <Bergcube> minimec~  Aha.  OPTICALLY transparent.  I was thinking in too complicated terms I see.
[02:56] <_jason> AntMaz: that's not good, is this the user you created during the install?
[02:56] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: you need to use sudo
[02:56] <AntMaz> yea
[02:57] <jace> hey
[02:57] <_jason> AntMaz: paste the output of 'groups' command
[02:57] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, wtf? are you sure you're using xchat
[02:57] <LordMelkor> refuze2looze: no
[02:57] <LordMelkor> ya
[02:57] <LordMelkor> i am
[02:57] <phiber_optic> refuze2looze,  I dont have irc window too
[02:57] <jace> I tried to install chroot of x32 linux, but I dont think it worked out too well.  Is there any other way I could install 32 bit applications?
[02:57] <hatake_kakashi> probably different versions heh
[02:57] <LordMelkor> refuze2looze: are you useing the default Breezy  xchat?
[02:57] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, what menus do you have then
[02:57] <refuze2looze> yes i am
[02:57] <refuze2looze> 2.4.4
[02:57] <marius_> Emm
[02:57] <AntMaz> it worked when i first installed ubuntu , im thinking maybe i have a virus but i dont see how cause i dont do shit but code with jedit and browse the web and listen to music
[02:57] <BigDaddy> well, Konversation looks nice
[02:57] <minimec> Bergcube: I see. :-)
[02:57] <marius_> Gimmi all the commands on the pastebin
[02:57] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: what?
[02:57] <LordMelkor> i have xchat, view, server, setting, window, and help
[02:58] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: lol
[02:58] <AntMaz> i know im in the admin grouops
[02:58] <marius_> iknow
[02:58] <Bergcube> LordMelkor~  The menu you need is SETTINGS / PREFERENCES.  In the window you get go to the NETWORK / FILE TRANSFER section..........
[02:58] <BigDaddy> I have noticed that a lot of KDE apps just look more polished
[02:58] <eugman> Anyone here know how to check if a repository has no packages from it installed?
[02:58] <marius_> One says something somebody says something else
[02:58] <BigDaddy> Why is GNOME the default with Ubuntu?
[02:58] <marius_> BigD yaeh
[02:58] <btdown> cuz KDE sux
[02:58] <hatake_kakashi> BigDaddy: whats wrong with that?
[02:58] <LordMelkor> Bergcube in transfers section
[02:58] <AntMaz> ive been using ubuntu for about a week now so ive caught onto everything pretty quick
[02:58] <LordMelkor> i see no auto accept dvv sends
[02:58] <BigDaddy> I know there is Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[02:58] <JLiquorish> how can i get a link to filesystem under Places??
[02:59] <_jason> AntMaz: does a command like 'sudo echo hi' give you any errors?
[02:59] <BigDaddy> I think I am going to download KDE after a while
[02:59] <BigDaddy> then maybe xfce
[02:59] <AntMaz> i had xp but i couldnt stand it cause they lovely ways it crashs 24/7
[02:59] <LordMelkor> shall i screenshot?
[02:59] <apakatt> is it possible to clean a existing ubuntusystem so you get a completly empty server-installation without installing from cd?
[02:59] <AntMaz> no errors
[02:59] <Bergcube> LordMelkor~  That is because your parser has no fuzzy logic.  It's a checkbox called "Auto accept file offers"
[02:59] <minimec> Bergcube: My Desktop is running on Debian Sarge. I don't even have xorg on it :-)
[02:59] <LinuxJones> BigDaddy, do it rught now you can have both :)
[02:59] <BigDaddy> AntMaz, mine was pretty stable. Only crashed because of things I would do to it
[02:59] <_jason> JLiquorish: bookmark it in nautilus
[02:59] <LordMelkor> bergcube, the word auto does not appear
[03:00] <_jason> AntMaz: do you have access to root?
[03:00] <LordMelkor> anywhere
[03:00] <BigDaddy> LinuxJones - What do you mean?
[03:00] <AntMaz> another problem to if i load up the terminal i type ex. sudo apt-get whatever ,and nothing happens to
[03:00] <JLiquorish> _jason: how can i do that?
[03:00] <AntMaz> yea is there a way to enable root
[03:00] <LinuxJones> BigDaddy, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will give you kde to load from the ubuntu login manager if you want
[03:00] <JLiquorish> wait, i think i got it
[03:00] <N6pfk> I have multiple kernel header directories in /usr/src and mulitiple module directories in /lib/module.  If I build a new modules which headers are used and whick lib modues do they wind up in?
[03:00] <hatake_kakashi> AntMaz: for what reason?
[03:00] <AntMaz> i know i can go into teminal by pressing ctrl lt f2 or f1
[03:01] <Bergcube> LordMelkor~  Then I have only two suggstions (not being a guru)  Either you're not in Xchat or you have config-files overriding these things.  Then you need to un-mung that.
[03:01] <hatake_kakashi> N6pfk: the one that you are running on I suspect
[03:01] <AntMaz> but that is the only way that things acctully work
[03:01] <LinuxJones> BigDaddy, it's like a 250 mb download tho
[03:01] <marius_> Bergcube or make a tcl script
[03:01] <marius_> ...
[03:01] <_jason> AntMaz: you are sure that 'admin' was on the list of groups?
[03:01] <AntMaz> nevermind im not going to enable it
[03:01] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, reinstall xchat
[03:01] <LordMelkor> bergcube, i have no idea what un-mung meants
[03:01] <BigDaddy> bah, that won't take too long
[03:01] <AntMaz> positive
[03:01] <BigDaddy> What DE do you use LinuxJones?
[03:01] <N6pfk> OK, then if I want to use the others how do I specify that?
[03:01] <LinuxJones> BigDaddy, Gnome
[03:02] <LordMelkor> refuze2looze, where should i get xchat for ubuntu
[03:02] <_jason> AntMaz: reboot in recovery mode and make sure your /etc/sudoers looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[03:02] <Bergcube> LordMelkor~  same as un-fuck or repair or reset to default........
[03:02] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, synaptic?
[03:02] <regeya> not everyone in the world knows what 'munge' means.
[03:02] <LordMelkor> well it says xchat is installed
[03:02] <LordMelkor> in synaptic
[03:02] <regeya> ...though it could have been defined without profanity.
[03:02] <LordMelkor> since this is the default
[03:02] <LordMelkor> xchat install
[03:02] <wuhu> can someone help me with a firefox 1.5 problem i'm having?
[03:02] <BigDaddy> It's funny, in Windows, all my litestep themes were modelled after GNOME. (cuz I like the look), now that I can run GNOME, I want KDE
[03:02] <AntMaz> jason you think a possiblity of a virus
[03:02] <_jason> wuhu: just ask
[03:02] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, yes if you are using it then it's a good sign it is installed. reinstall it
[03:02] <_jason> AntMaz: no
[03:02] <JLiquorish> did it, thanks _jason, i suppose I have to put up with the fact i now have two links the FIlesystem in nautilus?
[03:03] <LinuxJones> BigDaddy, you can select kde or gnome under the session button in the login screen when you re-start your computer.
[03:03] <LordMelkor> lol
[03:03] <AntMaz> isnt it pretty hard to catch one with linux
[03:03] <regeya> LOL BigDaddy
[03:03] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"
[03:03] <regeya> also, litestep rocks
[03:03] <_jason> JLiquorish: I see... good point
[03:03] <BigDaddy> oh yeah regeya?
[03:03] <BigDaddy> you a litestepper?
[03:03] <zim> hi all stupid question what is the next ubuntu like
[03:04] <zim> hi all stupid question what is the next ubuntu called sorry
[03:04] <brenner> regeya: is that the windows custimisation thing?
[03:04] <Bergcube> Just as a small info...  Mung:  http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/M/mung.html
[03:04] <wuhu> when I start firefox i get a message that says "Could not initialize the browser's security component.  The most likely cause is problems with files in your browser's profile directory.."
[03:04] <wuhu> any ideas?
[03:04] <wuhu> i just installed 1.5
[03:04] <brenner> zim: dapper
[03:04] <LinuxJones> zim, Dapper Drake
[03:04] <phiber_optic> zim Dapper Dake
[03:04] <phiber_optic> zim Dapper Drake
[03:04] <zim> ty
[03:04] <regeya> BigDaddy, I used to be.  Actually, years ago, sadly.  I don't run Litestep because Windows isn't my main axe anymore.
[03:04] <makaveli> its current too
[03:04] <zim> when can we download a preview
[03:04] <_jason> wuhu: close firefox, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.backup, open firefox, report if errors remains
[03:04] <sebi> "open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[03:04] <sebi> " what does this mean?
[03:04] <regeya> BigDaddy, heh, I used to run a LS theme named 'KDE' that was designed after KDE 1.x
[03:04] <AntMaz> _jason , when i do recovery i wont to renable all the syntap packages and get all the crap ive got ubuntu again will it
[03:05] <wuhu> ok, one sec _jason
[03:05] <makaveli> sebi there is no sequencer file
[03:05] <sebi> HAHAHAH
[03:05] <sebi> stupid answer guy
[03:05] <regeya> I had both Windows and my real KDE desktop set up exactly the same
[03:05] <LordMelkor> i will reinstall xchat
[03:05] <LordMelkor> but here is a screenshot
[03:05] <_jason> AntMaz: it will just give you a root console so you can view the file and see if that's why you don't have sudo
[03:05] <LordMelkor> http://geocities.com/joltmajor/
[03:05] <BigDaddy> I did enjoy some popularity with Litestep. After I had the Reluna theme released, it was just too damn much though. People email all the time with theme request
[03:05] <zim> when can we download a preview of dapper drake
[03:06] <N6pfk> Sebi: you have no midi installed'
[03:06] <JLiquorish> _jason: again thank you so much for your help, you should go to bed you have been on here helping people all day, thank you so much.
[03:06] <AntMaz> it will ask for the password but then it wont do anything
[03:06] <phiber_optic> zim its in developer version right now
[03:06] <_jason> JLiquorish: heh nah I just read and keep irc on the bottom of my screen
[03:06] <BigDaddy> regeya - here is my most popular theme - http://www.deviantart.com/view/12835091/
[03:06] <sebi> N6pfk, okay, but how can i install "midi"? is there a package for?
[03:06] <zim> kewl ty
[03:06] <BigDaddy> Look familiar to you? That one is based on KDE and Reluna (Wich is a Visual Style popular in Windows)
[03:06] <AntMaz> tell you the truth it was fine till i installed wine to use this audio editor i used when i was a Ms windows user
[03:06] <wuhu> _jason:  that seemed to fix it, thanks.  so i know, what was the problem?
[03:07] <marius_> Does somebody know how i can get Photoshop to linux
[03:07] <marius_> i want photoshop not gimp
[03:07] <BigDaddy> marius_ - GIMP
[03:07] <JLiquorish> _jason: you deserve a award, not only for having the same cool name as me, but for most helpful person around. Unlike yourself i do need sleep so ill see you around.
[03:07] <_jason> wuhu: I don't know, that just lets it create a brand new directory in your $HOME
[03:07] <BigDaddy> Learn it, Live It, Love it
[03:07] <N6pfk> I believe there are several have you installlled and run automatix?
[03:07] <crimsun> some people say photoshop runs with limited success under wine
[03:07] <BigDaddy> otherwise it is Wine for you
[03:07] <wuhu> oh well, thanks anyway _jason
[03:07] <_jason> JLiquorish: cya
[03:07] <regeya> AntMaz, wine installation shouldn't have affected that
[03:07] <marius_> Wine?
[03:08] <marius_> ehh im under 18
[03:08] <hatake_kakashi> !tell marius_ about wine
[03:08] <BigDaddy> marius_ - really, it is easier to just use GIMP
[03:08] <regeya> wine is an astoundingly impressive body of work.
[03:08] <BigDaddy> Des Cedega run Photoshop?
[03:08] <refuze2looze> maria, you can run photoshop CS with WINE, but it's better to get used to GIMP. it doesn't fall short of photoshop in any way, it's just different
[03:08] <wuhu> i know this is probably bad to say here, but i REALLY wish things were as easy to install as windows
[03:08] <AntMaz> oh , well i did catch a windows virus and that was aroud the same time i installed windows but i got rid of it
[03:08] <makaveli> marius_,  : http://www.winehq.com/
[03:08] <BigDaddy> I think I saw Xandros say that as a selling point
[03:08] <AntMaz> installed wine"
[03:08] <refuze2looze> oops, marius_ *
[03:09] <kbrosnan> wuhu, read bullet 4 at http://kb.mozillazine.org/SSL_is_disabled
[03:09] <BigDaddy> I can't get wine to work personally
[03:09] <regeya> yeah; unless you need to do prepress work I'd not mess with Photoshop on Linux.  if you need prepress tools, though, you're likely not using Linux
[03:09] <Alexi5> how do i setup apache2 on ubuntu
[03:09] <makaveli> BigDaddy,  is it that hard
[03:09] <AntMaz> i manually deleted it cause the virus scanner that you get with ubuntu couldnt quarintine it
[03:09] <marius_> GRRR im not a girl..
[03:09] <refuze2looze> wuhu, they are easier.. you just open synaptic and check whatever you want to install. what can be easier than this?
[03:09] <Alexi5> can some one assist me please
[03:09] <jtdgrz> can anyone help me out?  when i try to install ubuntu i get some error about bootstrap.log in when installing the base system
[03:09] <wuhu> thanks kbrosnan, i'll check it out
[03:09] <regeya> though I have to admit that Scribus's PDF support is amazing
[03:09] <GoDawgs> Hello netsplit....
[03:09] <marius_> im useing it on my school
[03:10] <regeya> GO DAWGS!
[03:10] <AntMaz> jtd might be your hardware im guessing
[03:10] <GoDawgs> regeya:  :O)
[03:10] <makaveli> Alexi5,  : sudo apt-get install apache
[03:10] <jtdgrz> uncool
[03:10] <jtdgrz> but thanks
[03:10] <crouton> To hell with Georgia. :)
[03:10] <Alexi5> thats all
[03:10] <regeya> which 'dawgs' are we talking about anyway
[03:10] <zim> where do u download the development version from ???
[03:10] <wuhu> refuze2looze:  i never have to get on irc to debug a program install in windows
[03:10] <GoDawgs> hey... watch it!
[03:10] <GoDawgs> :)
[03:10] <BigDaddy> makaveli - I can't answer that really. I am running the 64bit edition and there is not a binary package for Wine 64bit that I am aware of
[03:10] <Alexi5> is there a way to let it run when my pc starts
[03:10] <marius_> How do i download it?
[03:10] <GoDawgs> regeya: UGA dude... who else?
[03:10] <BigDaddy> I tried to compile it, first time ever. Didn't work
[03:10] <regeya> crouton, if you've been in southern Georgia in the summer, eh, it's already there
[03:10] <jtdgrz> any other idea why it would happen? lol
[03:11] <AntMaz> cause i tried installing it in this dell with multible nic cards in it and i got some kind of eroor
[03:11] <makaveli> Alexi5,  : then configure httpd.conf and other stuff. and read some manual
[03:11] <refuze2looze> wuhu, what program
[03:11] <GoDawgs> My family is in Stone Mountain and in Buckhead.
[03:11] <crouton> regeya: Living it already.  Being a Ramblin Wreck helps. :)
[03:11] <Bergcube> Alexi5~  I can't help you, as I did no setup whatsoever to get it working.  I downloaded the apache package via Synaptic, pointed a web-browser from another machine to port 80 and there it was.
[03:11] <wuhu> refuse2looze: take your pick.  firefox is just the latest
[03:11] <zim> where can i download the development version dapper from ???
[03:11] <GoDawgs> crouton: ewe... I'm so sorry to hear that!
[03:11] <refuze2looze> wuhu, i installed firefox 1.5 with no problems at all
[03:11] <regeya> lol crouton
[03:11] <crouton> GoDawgs: That's ok, I feel bad for you too
[03:11] <sebi> how can i play midis? playmidi results in "open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[03:11] <sebi> "
[03:11] <AntMaz> please no lol or rofl or any of that aol talk just spell it out
[03:12] <GoDawgs> crouton: why?  we beat the crap outta you
[03:12] <regeya> I have a niece (I guess that makes me old) who lives in Savannah.  Eek.
[03:12] <AntMaz> roflecopter
[03:12] <regeya> f'n hot
[03:12] <wuhu> refuze2looze:  no such luck here.  it's been a battle with everything
[03:12] <crouton> GoDawgs: Because your drama program had such a hard time finding 3 wise men and a virgin for one of their on-campus productions. ;)
[03:12] <makaveli> marius_,  : sudo apt-get install wine
[03:12] <GoDawgs> Ohhh... do I sense a teeny bit of jealousy? Hmm...
[03:13] <AntMaz> http://members.cox.net/pimpbot9000/roflcopter.htm
[03:13] <GoDawgs> anyway, this should be an #offtopic conversation anyway...
[03:13] <regeya> ok, GoDawgs, any my apologies for the OT to all the ops, here's how retarded I was last time I was in georgia.  'twas a rainy day, I saw several cars with 'G' stickers, and I thought to myself, 'what the hell's with all the Green Bay fans, anyway?'
[03:13] <crouton> heh
[03:13] <AntMaz> everyone take a look at this
[03:13] <refuze2looze> wuhu, either you don't know what you're doing or you're not reading manuals
[03:13] <makaveli> AntMaz,  thats wossap
[03:13] <AntMaz> wossap?
[03:13] <makaveli> yes
[03:13] <makaveli> i mean good
[03:13] <AntMaz> what the hell does that mean
[03:14] <AntMaz> oh
[03:14] <sebi> how can i play midis? playmidi results in "open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[03:14] <makaveli> i dunno. we say
[03:14] <wuhu> thanks for that refuze2looze, just the pep talk a new linux user needs.  seems like everyone i talk to tells me it's my fault
[03:14] <makaveli> thats wossap in philly
[03:14] <GoDawgs> regeya: LOL... that's great!  We get that all the time though.. I live in Southern California ... and I have a car flag proudly waving? 24/7/365 ... and no ever gets it here... they wouldn't know REAL football if they fell over it
[03:14] <crimsun> sebi: sudo modprobe snd-seq
[03:14] <AntMaz> oh
[03:14] <crouton> GoDawgs: Beating up in-state rivals is never #offtopic. Muahaha.
[03:14] <makaveli> lol
[03:14] <AntMaz> i do a fair in allentown busy and fun
[03:14] <refuze2looze> wuhu, try this http://www.fslog.com/2006/01/30/firefox-15-in-ubuntu-breezy/
[03:14] <benplaut> i can't beleive i'm not using dapper yet
[03:14] <GoDawgs> crouton: I'll let Seveas determine that........
[03:14] <makaveli> Dorney park ownz
[03:14] <regeya> rofflecopters.
[03:14] <benplaut> i was using breezy the moment they started dev
[03:15] <sebi> crimsun, now its "playmidi: No playback device found.
[03:15] <AntMaz> ok _jason ill try that recovery out  hopefully
[03:15] <refuze2looze> wuhu, because you blame 'linux' for your problems where the real problem is that you think linux is windows when it isn't
[03:15] <refuze2looze> wuhu, it is not used in the same way
[03:15] <brenner> benplaut: would you like us to flog you?
[03:15] <a-lex> Dapper + Amd64 + Xgl + compiz == Possible?
[03:15] <refuze2looze> there's different ways to do things
[03:15] <crouton> He probably doesn't get American football
[03:15] <zim> now to some currant Qs how can i play mpgs on ubuntu
[03:16] <benplaut> brenner: please don't !lart me
[03:16] <GoDawgs> crouton: maybe not... :)  Especially GOOD football anyway...
[03:16] <WezlFawlty> football :P
[03:16] <AntMaz> wuhu linux is awsome dont blame it for your problems
[03:16] <crouton> You'd be in the same boat then, right? <rimshot>
[03:16] <AntMaz> with linux its the operrator not the OS
[03:16] <GoDawgs> Not Soccer now... FOOTBALL... :)
[03:16] <zim> where do i get the codex for most sound and movie files
[03:16] <a-lex> OBEY THE FIST
[03:16] <makaveli> soccer 0wnz football
[03:17] <makaveli> soccer if football actually
[03:17] <GoDawgs> makeavelli Pfft...
[03:17] <brenner> !lart benplaut
[03:17] <refuze2looze> zim, totem, vlc, mplayer, xine.. take your pick
[03:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell zim about multimedia
[03:17] <makaveli> americans jus copied the name probably
[03:17] <AntMaz> ubutu tell zim: about restricted formats
[03:17] <Bergcube> To me, a fotball is that otherwise useless item that my dog gets lots of fun out of chewing to bits.
[03:17] <crouton> rugby would own soccer and football, those maniacs don't even wear helmets.
[03:17] <GoDawgs> brenner: it finally worked dude!
[03:17] <benplaut> brenner: only in #ubuntu-offtopic, unfortunately :P
[03:17] <zim> yes please do
[03:17] <GoDawgs> crouton: too bad no one gives a crap out rugby
[03:17] <GoDawgs> :)
[03:17] <crouton> true
[03:17] <GoDawgs> hehehe
[03:17] <brenner> benplaut: you got the message anyway. :)
[03:17] <makaveli> GoDawgs,  rugby 0wnz too
[03:17] <wuhu> why does everyone here and on the forums keep telling me it's my fault?  i'm going back to windows
[03:17] <AntMaz> http://members.cox.net/pimpbot9000/roflcopter.htm
[03:17] <crouton> it's a good pub sport, to drink beer to
[03:18] <GoDawgs> makaveli: Pfft
[03:18] <brenner> GoDawgs: what did?  do i know you? :)
[03:18] <makaveli> wuhu,  no dont go windoze
[03:18] <GoDawgs> brenner: come on dude... don't recognize me with my fancy new OS that I couldn't get on a little while ago?
[03:18] <LinuxJones> wuhu, what problem are you having ?
[03:18] <zim> who in here can tell me how to play movies on ubuntu
[03:18] <GoDawgs> brenner: Finally, got dapper on... Kubuntu style...
[03:18] <refuze2looze> wuhu, i just directed you to a tutorial on how to install firefox 1.5 in about 5 minutes.. and nobody is forcing you to use linux
[03:18] <wuhu> take your pick linuxjones, makaveli.  i could go on for hours
[03:19] <brenner> GoDawgs: ohhhhh
[03:19] <wuhu> still can't get wireless to work
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <GoDawgs> brenner: hehehehe
[03:19] <phiber_optic> zim: use mplayer, xine
[03:19] <wuhu> i have to add sources to some file every time i want to install something
[03:19] <LinuxJones> wuhu, that's not very usefull to helping find a solution to your problem :)
[03:19] <crouton> wireless is a bit tricky in linux.
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <refuze2looze> jason_, there's no viruses for linux
[03:19] <wuhu> then when i install something i have to get on here and be told it's my fault
[03:19] <makaveli> wuhu,  use totern
[03:19] <sebi> crimsun, now its "playmidi: No playback device found.
[03:19] <brenner> _jason: heh.  i thought *you* were flooding ... i'm like wtf?  jason flooding?!
[03:19] <LinuxJones> wuhu, what are you trying to install ?
[03:19] <zim> ity says i dont have the correct codex
[03:19] <brenner> jason_: don't flood
[03:19] <concept10> wuhu: no, you dont have to once you added all of the sources you need
[03:20] <jason_> woah really? it doesn't have viruses?
[03:20] <GoDawgs> hey guys... where do I go for a source-o-matic for kubuntu?
[03:20] <wuhu> i add sources every time
[03:20] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to cancel a program that frozed up.. wont let me close it by right clickig
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> what's with mplayer-custom in the repos?
[03:20] <jason_> sorry for flooding
[03:20] <wuhu> then it tells me it can't contact servers
[03:20] <makaveli> zim what kind of file are you trying to play
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> !tell wuhu about easyubuntu
[03:20] <zim> mpg
[03:20] <zim> and wma
[03:20] <wuhu> forget it.  i submit to bill gates
[03:20] <refuze2looze> jason_, no it doesn't. doesn't have spyware either
[03:20] <Bergcube> wuhu ~ Telling you it's your fault is plainly sub-optimal.  And even if you've interpreted it that way, I am sure most people haven't INTENDED it that way.
[03:20] <GoDawgs> !tell me about easyubuntu
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> !tell zim about wma
[03:20] <makaveli> zim did u try VLC or totern
[03:20] <marius_> where can i find the Synaptic
[03:20] <xsquared> hi, im having a bit of trouble with connecting to windows machines in gnome
[03:20] <SebastianM> Hi everyone! I've just installed ubuntu - and I love it! (I'm new to linux)
[03:21] <SebastianM> :D
[03:21] <jason_> wow good thing my friend gave me a copy
[03:21] <refuze2looze> OmegaAlpha, try running command xkill and clicking on it
[03:21] <cubicool> Is there an Xfake package available for Ubu?
[03:21] <phiber_optic> !tell me about easyubuntu
[03:21] <jason_> thanks man!!
[03:21] <xsquared> SebastianM, Welcome to life.
[03:21] <brenner> SebastianM: welcome
[03:21] <corvax> sytem administration
[03:21] <_jason> jason_: I think this page sums it up quite well http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html and this one for a more serious discussion http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:21] <SebastianM> =)
[03:21] <hatake_kakashi> what's with mplayer-custom in the repos?
[03:21] <BigDaddy> yeah, I like this Konversation
[03:21] <zim> no do the just work
[03:21] <corvax> synaptic
[03:21] <SebastianM> It's so...nice, and well done
[03:21] <SebastianM> my wi-fi worked instantly after the installation
[03:21] <xsquared> :-)
[03:22] <GoDawgs> It's weird... I don't have synaptic here.. is adept just as good guys?
[03:22] <corvax> lol at phiber optic  heh   as in the LOD
[03:22] <oklinux> is sis si7012 sound card work in ubuntu ?
[03:22] <SebastianM> while it took atleast 15 minutes to get it to work with windows xp
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> anyone tried mplayer-custom?
[03:22] <LinuxJones> oklinux, yes'
[03:22] <GoDawgs> Seveas: is there a source-o-matic for kubuntu?
[03:22] <zim> what is the best program to install that will just work to play movies apt-get install WHAT
[03:22] <Alexi5> thank god for ubuntu wiki
[03:22] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, what's source-o-matic ?
[03:23] <corvax> godawgs its undwer system
[03:23] <refuze2looze> zim, i like vlc
[03:23] <GoDawgs> corvax: what?
[03:23] <zim> ty
[03:23] <corvax> synaptic
[03:23] <corvax> its under system
[03:23] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: it's a website where you can have your sources.list file auto generated based on your prefs
[03:23] <LinuxJones> zim, install automatrix it's a gui for downloading movie players and codecs
[03:23] <corvax> then administration
[03:23] <GoDawgs> corvax: I'm confused...
[03:23] <makaveli> zim sypnatic
[03:23] <refuze2looze> GoDawgs, what are your prefs?
[03:23] <BigDaddy> OK, I am done I guess
[03:23] <SebastianM> ubuntu has everything? :D
[03:23] <makaveli> synapatic i mean
[03:23] <BigDaddy> later
[03:24] <SebastianM> even an office package!
[03:24] <makaveli> synaptic
[03:24] <makaveli> damn
[03:24] <GoDawgs> refuze2looze: what do you mean?
[03:24] <corvax> godawg click system at the top of yous screen
[03:24] <GoDawgs> you mean the bottom? :)
[03:24] <IdleOne> SebastianM:  everything and then some
[03:24] <oklinux> where do I go to test the sound Linuxjones ?
[03:24] <LordMelkor> I reinstalled xchat but i still have no irc menu
[03:24] <refuze2looze> GoDawgs, i dont know. you said you wanted a website to autocreate sources.list based on your "prefs". so i ask what are your prefs?
[03:24] <SebastianM> IdleOne: :D
[03:24] <GoDawgs> corvax: ok... i'm there... now what?
[03:24] <corvax> now click admininstration
[03:24] <corvax> then click synaptic
[03:24] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  its under applications > internet
[03:25] <corvax> then enter your root password
[03:25] <corvax> :)
[03:25] <LinuxJones> oklinux, gstreamer-properties
[03:25] <phiber_optic> _jason, nice artichle about the virus ;)
[03:25] <GoDawgs> refuze2looze:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:25] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:25] <GoDawgs> corvax: ok
[03:25] <brenner> LordMelkor: what version?  i think the latest doesn't have it anymore
[03:25] <GoDawgs> corvax: i don't have administration
[03:25] <GoDawgs> corvax: im on kubuntu
[03:25] <IdleOne> !kubuntu
[03:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:25] <LordMelkor> i have 2.6
[03:25] <corvax> ahhh
[03:25] <corvax> heh
[03:26] <corvax> should have said so
[03:26] <corvax> i thought was gnome
[03:26] <brenner> LordMelkor: that's why
[03:26] <LordMelkor> how can i enable auto-accept dcc send in 2.6?
[03:26] <GoDawgs> corvax: I did... :)
[03:26] <GoDawgs> corvax: actually a few times ;)
[03:26] <brenner> IdleOne: he means the Irc menu *inside* x-chat menu bar
[03:26] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, that's cool
[03:26] <corvax> i missed it sorry
[03:26] <IdleOne> brenner:  oh
[03:26] <GoDawgs> corvax: no biggie :)
[03:26] <brenner> LordMelkor: #xchat is really helpful
[03:26] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: it is... huh? :)
[03:26] <LinuxJones> :)
[03:27] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: that's what i'm looking for for kubuntu
[03:27] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, how did you end up with 2.6? you enabled backports?
[03:27] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  in Settings I beleive
[03:27] <GoDawgs> i'm assuming it's the same but I ned someone to confirm that before i update my sources.list
[03:27] <LordMelkor> refuze2looze: ya
[03:27] <LordMelkor> IdleOne: its not in settings
[03:27] <corvax> goto k menu
[03:27] <marius_> when i have installed whine
[03:27] <marius_> what do i have to do next?
[03:27] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  let me look
[03:28] <brenner> heh. whine.
[03:28] <LordMelkor> i have a screenshot at http://www.geocities.com/joltmajor
[03:28] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, kubuntu can be installed for breezy
[03:28] <Jivenix> is there a quick way to refresh your ip address
[03:28] <ba> ewwww geocities
[03:28] <Jivenix> command
[03:28] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: what?
[03:28] <ba> LordMelkor, dont you have a host?
[03:28] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: I'm not following you.
[03:29] <ba> $def LordMelkor
[03:29] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, you don't need special repositories to install kde
[03:29] <LordMelkor> ba: ??
[03:29] <ba> sorry, wrong channel
[03:29] <ba> i thought i was in #wordpress
[03:29] <IdleOne> LordMelkor: you can get xget pluggin from xchat.org
[03:29] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: got it
[03:29] <LordMelkor> ah ok
[03:29] <ba> ubuntus to huge for me to give a host to everyone who walks in the door
[03:29] <corvax> in the kmenu under system
[03:29] <IdleOne> but #xchat is a better place to get help for xchat
[03:29] <corvax> is snaptic
[03:29] <LordMelkor> ya im there
[03:30] <LordMelkor> no responses tho
[03:30] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, you only need to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:30] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: that's what i'm on now
[03:30] <GoDawgs> but i need additional software... so i need to update my sources, right?
[03:30] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, ohh you want the latest version
[03:30] <GoDawgs> just as I didn in Ubuntu Dapper.
[03:30] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  try out xget
[03:30] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: No... I just installed the latest version................
[03:30] <corvax> dapper has xgl and compiz?
[03:30] <corvax> right
[03:31] <LordMelkor> i just read the description for xget it doesnt look like what i need
[03:31] <AntMaz> _jason: didnt do anything
[03:31] <LordMelkor> oh
[03:31] <SebastianM> a quick question: when a program is supposed to work under linux, is it possible that it doesn't work under ubuntu?
[03:31] <LordMelkor> there isnt a menu thing for it
[03:31] <LordMelkor> i had to type some command
[03:31] <_jason> AntMaz: it was suppose to do anything, you were suppose to verify that it contains the same info
[03:31] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, yes
[03:31] <Madpilot> SebastianM: could be - what are you trying to install?
[03:31] <_jason> AntMaz: wasn't*
[03:31] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, ok! :)
[03:32] <SebastianM> madpilot: just wondering
[03:32] <SebastianM> =)
[03:32] <serpa> So, this is what IRC is like
[03:32] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, ubuntu/debian can have slightly different paths to things to say redhat or slackware for example
[03:32] <_jason> serpa: run while you still can and don't look back
[03:32] <AntMaz> no i meant it loaded up and everything but i just tryed to acess syntap package and it didnt load
[03:32] <GoDawgs> hey ya'll.... when you install apps where are the icons to launch them in the menu?
[03:32] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, aha! I see
[03:32] <Madpilot> GoDawgs: not everything adds itself to the menu
[03:33] <_jason> AntMaz: did you check /etc/sudoers?
[03:33] <SebastianM> ubuntu is so freakin' cool.... :)
[03:33] <LinuxJones> serpa, exciting isn't it
[03:33] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, there's also the chance that the program is supposed to work but generally doesnt as well ;)
[03:33] <GoDawgs> Madpilot: really?  I thought for sure in dapper it would... so how do I get all of the apps I download to add itself to the menu?
[03:33] <marius_> can i install .exe programs after i have downloaded whine?
[03:33] <AntMaz> in that directory
[03:33] <GoDawgs> marius_: sort of... some programs you can run through wine
[03:33] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, =)
[03:34] <marius_> like? cs and ps?
[03:34] <corvax> marius yes
[03:34] <corvax> but dont expect much
[03:34] <GoDawgs> marius_: Photoshop I think so... what's CS?
[03:34] <marius_> why?
[03:34] <_jason> AntMaz: yes, did you check the contents and make sure they were the same as the link I gave you before?
[03:34] <marius_> Counter-strike
[03:34] <beniamino> anyone know of a functioning mirror for plf?
[03:34] <GoDawgs> marius_: it's not a perfected technology
[03:34] <serpa> That just made my day.
[03:34] <SebastianM> hm... there isn't any option for changing the start page in firefox? O_o
[03:35] <corvax> sebastion ofcourse
[03:35] <corvax> there is
[03:35] <LinuxJones> SebastianM, edit >> perferences
[03:35] <SebastianM> yeah, i know
[03:35] <GoDawgs> marius_: Crossover office does a bit better job with porting apps over... but it's not freeware as wine is... though they do fund the wine project
[03:35] <SebastianM> but i can't find it
[03:35] <SebastianM> =)
[03:35] <corvax> edit prefrences
[03:35] <elkbuntu> SebastianM,  o.O
[03:35] <SebastianM> oh... under edit
[03:35] <unholy> hey
[03:35] <corvax> genereal
[03:36] <marius_> ARG!!, steam doesnt work via. whine
[03:36] <unholy> can anyone tell me if i can boot from a floppy and then the floppy boots the cd?
[03:36] <marius_> will crossover work with all ?
[03:36] <corvax> maybe or cedega
[03:36] <LinuxJones> unholy, hwy do you need to do that ?
[03:36] <unholy> i cant boot it from cd, because the computer is too old
[03:37] <corvax> linuxjones prolly isnt eltorito
[03:37] <corvax> bootable
[03:37] <AntMaz> how do i look a it
[03:37] <GoDawgs> i'll be back ya'll... din din's here...
[03:37] <jose> hello
[03:38] <wisie> I've gotta ask, I had stuff on my desktop then I restarted and it all seems to be gone, whats up with that? :S
[03:38] <LinuxJones> unholy, if the computer is that old Ubuntu probably won't be a good choice for an os
[03:38] <Armageddon666> I use debian. But i installed Ubuntu in another machine. Where is the root?
[03:38] <corvax> unholy get smart boot manager
[03:38] <jose> alguien que hables espaol?
[03:38] <_jason> AntMaz: boot in recovery mode, 'cat /etc/sudoers', if it isn't the same, do 'visudo' and make it the same.  You will need to print out the file probably
[03:38] <unholy> where whould i get one?
[03:38] <_jason> AntMaz: print the web page I mean
[03:38] <corvax> thats the name of the application
[03:38] <unholy> k
[03:38] <jose> i dont speaking englsh
[03:39] <AntMaz> my noob ass is lost
[03:39] <minimec> unholy: I had the same problem some weeks ago... take a look on the ubuntu download page. There's a small software that allows you to make a bootable floppy with /device choice :-)
[03:39] <_jason> AntMaz: actually smarter, save it somewhere and then look at it too
[03:39] <AntMaz> send me that link again
[03:39] <Armageddon666> Yo hablo, pero aqui no se puede hablar espaol!
[03:39] <corvax> unholy here http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[03:39] <AntMaz> copy it
[03:39] <_jason> AntMaz: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[03:39] <concept10> how did I switch back to hardware rendering?
[03:39] <LinuxJones> jose, #ubuntu-es
[03:39] <jose> me puedes dar tu msn armaggedon666????????
[03:39] <Jivenix> anyone ever get dell truemobile 1370 wifi working on ubuntu?
[03:39] <minimec> unholy: Maybe it's even on the ubuntu install disk...
[03:40] <D1> my new dapper install freezes randomly
[03:40] <Armageddon666> Para qu?
[03:40] <jose> i have a problem
[03:40] <D1> how do I debug this?
[03:40] <corvax> my espaniol   is muy  merida?
[03:40] <concept10> I tried to install new ATI drivers, didnt work.  I want to switch back to default
[03:40] <D1> I can no longer Ctrl+Alt+Delete
[03:40] <corvax> meirda
[03:40] <maria> anyone know how to find out my own ip address on a network?
[03:40] <jose> tengo un problema grave con ubuntu armaggedon
[03:40] <corvax> or however you spell shit
[03:40] <kethinov> hey all, why did grub mess up when i removed a hard drive from my computer? i got it fixed and all, but i'm wondering why it had to be fixed in the first place. why does grub care when i get rid of a hard drive that neither its neither installed to nor has its config?
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> maria: ifconfig
[03:40] <marius_> What kinds of programs like dreamweaver is there on linux?
[03:40] <maria> hatake_kakashi: thanks
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> maria: np
[03:40] <corvax> maria ifconfig
[03:41] <corvax> whoops im slow
[03:41] <corvax> lol
[03:41] <pinkpanther> marius_: look up NVU
[03:41] <bosco> how do i get mplayer working correctly in UBUNTU
[03:41] <Armageddon666> Where is root in ubuntu?
[03:41] <amphi> !tell jose about es
[03:41] <bosco> sudo
[03:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell bosco about mplayer
[03:42] <kethinov> Armageddon666, sudo su gives you root
[03:42] <bosco> allright thx
[03:42] <minimec> Armageddon666: You have to create it. Do 'sudo passwd'
[03:42] <jose> ARMAGGEDON666 PLEASE HELP ME
[03:42] <shortjollio> whats the best windows emulator?
[03:42] <bosco> Armageddon666,  yes it does there no other way to do it
[03:42] <kethinov> shortjollio, you can use WINE to run windows apps natively, or use vmware to install windows in a virtual machine
[03:42] <bosco> shortjollio,  vmware or wine
[03:42] <_jason> jose: escreve: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:43] <pinkpanther> get cedega if you want to play windows games on linux
[03:43] <D1> how do I troubleshoot/debug a hard lockup of ubuntu dapper flight 4?
[03:43] <shortjollio> can u intall a windows program using wine?
[03:43] <wotnarg> shortjollio: Yes. some don't work though
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> shortjollio: yes
[03:43] <shortjollio> hmm
[03:43] <corvax> boot to recovery console
[03:43] <kethinov> shortjollio, yes, but wine's compatibility is spotty
[03:43] <shortjollio> how do u operate it then just by clicking the setup or do u have to open up the wine program
[03:43] <jose>  /join #ubuntu-es
[03:44] <Armageddon666> The pass will be then the pass for root. Is it?
[03:44] <_jason> jose: sem espaco
[03:44] <hatake_kakashi> shortjollio: wine <program>
[03:44] <corvax> armageddon yes
[03:44] <SebastianM> is there any known viruses for linux?
[03:44] <shortjollio> i install;ed wine using synaptec but cant find it
[03:44] <Armageddon666> Thanks
[03:44] <wotnarg> shortjollio: Konqueror runs exe files in wine automagically, but I don't know if natalus does.
[03:44] <hatake_kakashi> SebastianM: not unless if you stupid enough to run everything as root, but otherwise, no
[03:44] <Madpilot> SebastianM: no
[03:44] <corvax> short no need to find it really
[03:44] <wotnarg> SebastianM: Nothing but stupidity
[03:45] <SebastianM> ok, nice :)
[03:45] <corvax> if you want o run an exe just click it
[03:45] <Armageddon666> Is it secure? Because in Debian we have root.
[03:45] <kethinov> SebastianM, yes, actually. open a terminal and type ":(){ :|:&);:" without the quotes. it'll bring your system to its knees ;)
[03:45] <minimec> Armageddon666: Yes! But if you don't really need the root account use 'sudo yourname'. I am an Debian User. I created my 'root'.
[03:45] <corvax> or from the command line type wine and the name of the .exe to run
[03:45] <hatake_kakashi> Armageddon666: its secure as long as you don't do stupid things, that applies to literally any linux distro
[03:45] <kethinov> SebastianM, actually, i got the syntax wrong.
[03:45] <shortjollio> do u have to copy the cd onto my drive first, cuz im trying to run an .exe off a cd and it wont
[03:46] <_jason> Armageddon666: no need to create a root user.  Just use sudo.  If you need a root prompt, use sudo -s.  I will have the bot send you some info
[03:46] <kethinov> SebastianM, but there's a classic fork bomb that's 12 characters that kills linux systems
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell Armageddon666 about sudo
[03:46] <wotnarg> shortjollio: You should just be able to mount the cd and click the executable on it
[03:46] <cosmo__> what do i need to read ntfs disks
[03:46] <wotnarg> install ntfstools, but its still patchy
[03:46] <marius_> Do i need antivirus for linux?
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> !tell cosmo__ about ntfs
[03:47] <wotnarg> marius_: No
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: generally, no
[03:47] <marius_> K puh!
[03:47] <wotnarg> err, ntfsprogs
[03:47] <kethinov> marius_, probably not. but if you want it, there's always clamav, a free software virus scanner for linux
[03:47] <SebastianM> kethinov, oh..
[03:47] <SebastianM> what's a fork bomb?
[03:47] <kethinov> a program which makes copies of itself in memory until you're out of memory
[03:47] <SebastianM> ah
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> +CPU cycles
[03:48] <goof> I have an issue with hotplug in the startup of v5.10 breezy, can anyone give me some help?
[03:48] <kethinov> yes
[03:48] <Armageddon666> Thanks
[03:48] <wotnarg> SebastianM: If someone says something in a channel that you have nfc what it does, Don't run it. And definatly not as root.
[03:48] <SebastianM> mm
[03:48] <corvax> the only reason to have  antivirus on linux is that your afraid ou may pass a virus in a mail or somthjing givent to you by a friend onto someone else
[03:48] <SebastianM> wotnarg, yes sir!
[03:48] <cosmo__> does any one know what i need to read ntfs voulumes
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> cosmo__: what ubotu said to you in pm
[03:48] <LIve> Can I view my hard drive contents using a Live CD?
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> LIve: yes
[03:48] <cosmo__> oh stupid me
[03:48] <wotnarg> SebastianM: If you stick to software from apt, you'll be pretty much safe from most anything.
[03:48] <kethinov> cosmo__, just mount it and specify ntfs as the filesystem
[03:49] <corvax> live yeah
[03:49] <LIve> I'll try it
[03:49] <SebastianM> wotnarg, sounds wonderful
[03:49] <SebastianM> ah, linux is dangerous
[03:49] <corvax> it should  automount for you
[03:49] <SebastianM> it's keeping me from going to bed
[03:49] <wotnarg> heh
[03:49] <wotnarg> I know the feeling :p
[03:49] <SebastianM> =D
[03:49] <goof> Is there any way to avoid starting the hotplug subsystem when starting up ubuntu?
[03:50] <corvax> udev
[03:50] <goof> udev?
[03:51] <minimec> Armageddon666: np
[03:51] <goof> what exactly are the consequences of not starting the hotplug subsystem?
[03:51] <LIve> Perhaps I can't find it, but how exactly to I access my files (using a Live CD)?
[03:51] <wotnarg> goof: stuff won't automount or be detected sometimes, etc.
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> LIve: via mount
[03:51] <wotnarg> goof: why would you want to disable it?
[03:51] <corvax> soom things may not work like usb and firewire
[03:51] <Armageddon666> What's np?
[03:52] <goof> wotnarg, well when i try to start my new installation of 5.10 breezy, it hangs at the "starting hotplug subsystem" line
[03:52] <corvax> live do you see an icon on the desktop?
[03:52] <corvax> that looks like a hd
[03:52] <LIve> cdrom, it says?
[03:52] <vladuz976> anybody know how to change gtk2 font size for gaim?
[03:52] <wotnarg> goof: Hrm. You running wierd hardware?
[03:52] <hatake_kakashi> LIve: what do you want to mount?
[03:53] <LIve> mount?
[03:53] <SebastianM> if I boot windows xp, start partition magic and choose to expand the partition which ubuntu is installed in - everything should go fine, right?
[03:53] <hondje> vladuz976: in your messages, or for the menus and stuff?
[03:53] <AntMaz> _jason yea everything looks fine and i tried running synaptic packages and asked for the password dtyped it in and nothing loads
[03:53] <wotnarg> LIve: How much do you know about linux/unix stuff? Is mount/umount greek you to?
[03:53] <oklinux> how do I make the sis si7012 sound working ?
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> !tell LIve about mount
[03:54] <vladuz976> hondje: for the message
[03:54] <goof> wotnarg, well its not super wierd, its not exactly standard though...I have an intel P4 motherboard with onboard network and sound but NOT video, so i have a pci-express nvidia video card, and I am also booting off a SATA drive
[03:54] <corvax> oklinux try alsaconf
[03:54] <wotnarg> SebastianM: Hopefully :p PartitionMagic is nondestructive, right?
[03:54] <LIve> First time linux user...sorry
[03:54] <_jason> AntMaz: I don't know then.  If you are in 'admin' group then you should have sudo access...
[03:54] <LIve> terminology is new to me
[03:54] <SebastianM> wotnarg, hehe, it's supposed to be
[03:54] <hondje> vladuz976: for yours, just press the ^A button...for theirs, I find it easiest to go to preferences, and set your font to override theres
[03:54] <SebastianM> =)
[03:54] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, gparted would be the better way to go methinks
[03:54] <oklinux> corvax anything I have to install ?
[03:54] <wotnarg> goof: The videocard doesn't matter, and I doubt the network/sound would be either.
[03:54] <corvax> wait a sec never mind
[03:54] <wotnarg> elkbuntu: True
[03:55] <corvax> you wont have it
[03:55] <_jason> AntMaz: test it with 'sudo echo hi' not gui stuff btw
[03:55] <corvax> ugh
[03:55] <AntMaz> is there anyway to recover full without a full reinstalltion
[03:55] <vladuz976> hondje: what is ^A botton?
[03:55] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, and there's a livecd with it on it somewhere
[03:55] <wotnarg> SebastianM: You might want to try that gparted, as elkbuntu's advice.
[03:55] <hondje> vladuz976: in the preferences menu, go to conversations -> message text, and 'ignore font sizes' to make the person sending you text messages send them in the size you're using
[03:55] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, it's not very big, like 50mb iirc
[03:55] <oklinux> brb
[03:55] <wotnarg> elkbuntu: Wait, are you talking to me or to SebastianM?
[03:55] <hondje> vladuz976: in the message box, 4th button from the left
[03:55] <goof> wotnarg, really? those were the only things that anything i read online had to do with the hotplug subsystem...except USB which i have, but nothing is plugged in...
[03:55] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, i wasnt sure who you were talking to, so just giving you the info to pass on :)
[03:55] <AntMaz> type password then does nothing
[03:56] <wotnarg> goof: Videocards just won't let X start, I don't think that would have to do with hotplug.
[03:56] <vladuz976> hondje: that button is not highlited. that's why i am asking
[03:56] <SebastianM> wotnarg, ?
[03:56] <wotnarg> SebastianM: apt-get install gparted
[03:56] <SebastianM> ah, now I got it..
[03:56] <hondje> hrm, I don't understand vladuz976
[03:56] <SebastianM> wooow... too much linux-talk for a newbie like me
[03:56] <_jason> AntMaz: 'groups | grep admin'
[03:56] <SebastianM> apt-get install gparted?
[03:56] <corvax> is alsaconf in alsautils in ubuntu?
[03:56] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:56] <goof> wortnarg, udev can let me bypass the hotplug subsystem?
[03:57] <SebastianM> mhm
[03:57] <corvax> i dont ee it anywhere
[03:57] <corvax> wonder why
[03:57] <_jason> AntMaz: better yet, groups | grep ' admin'
[03:57] <AntMaz> nothing
[03:57] <wotnarg> SebastianM: Or optionally, you can use the partitioner on the install cd. I always do for major operations :p
[03:57] <_jason> AntMaz: that means you are not in the admin group
[03:57] <wotnarg> goof: Its probably not a good idea, but you can disable it.
[03:57] <AntMaz> no i mean it did nothing
[03:57] <_jason> AntMaz: yeah that's what it means
[03:58] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, so what I do is to boot xp, decrease the ntfs-partition and then boot ubuntu and increase the ext3-partition with gparted?
[03:58] <_jason> AntMaz: type 'groups', you will not see 'admin' listed there
[03:58] <goof> wotnarg, thats what i keep reading, but nobody seems to be able to find a fix for it, and from what i have read, i'm not the only one with the problem
[03:58] <corvax> well id would use a live cd
[03:58] <goof> wotnarg, any idea for a place to submit the bug/problem?
[03:58] <corvax> and use qtparted
[03:58] <wotnarg> goof: bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[03:58] <corvax> to resive the ntfs
[03:58] <SebastianM> ah
[03:58] <wotnarg> goof: I think is the address, if not, just look for bugzilla on the ubuntu site
[03:59] <corvax> and create the  ext3\
[03:59] <corvax> but you have to run
[03:59] <cosmo__> when i go to veaw hda1 it still says contents cannot be displayed
[03:59] <corvax> defrag
[03:59] <SebastianM> but partition magic is capable of creating/resizing ext3-partitions
[03:59] <corvax> on windows first
[03:59] <goof> wotnarg, thanks for the help
[03:59] <corvax> or it wont work for some reason
[03:59] <SebastianM> would ubuntu recognize the extra space?
[03:59] <wotnarg> SebastianM: Yes :p
[03:59] <AntMaz> adm is there
[03:59] <SebastianM> ok =)
[03:59] <goof> wotnarg, hopefull i can get this cleared up, or i'll have to switch to something else like mandriva :-P
[03:59] <wotnarg> goof: :/
[03:59] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know the command to load a wifi driver on startup to the etc/modules?
[03:59] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, if you have partitionmagic, know how to use it and trust it then you could use it
[04:00] <marc> Is there a howto on how to upgrde firefox to 1.5 somewhere?
[04:00] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, great =)
[04:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell marc about ff1.5
[04:00] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, just dont ask me how, never actually used partitionmagic ;)
[04:00] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, it's cool, I'll figure it out;)
[04:00] <corvax> but dont forget to defrag your wiondows first
[04:00] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, i use partiition magic
[04:00] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, i STRONGLY suggest doing backups though
[04:00] <corvax> i kept getting errors
[04:01] <corvax> untill i did
[04:01] <SebastianM> ah
[04:01] <_jason> AntMaz: that's not 'admin' :)  boot in recovery mode and do 'adduser your_user_name admin'
[04:01] <GoDawgs> Yummy... din din was good.
[04:01] <corvax> i dont have any windows partions anymore though
[04:01] <corvax> no need for it
[04:01] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, and it works without problems? =)
[04:01] <corvax> actually on my wifes laptop there is
[04:01] <GoDawgs> corvax: i wish i could say that
[04:01] <corvax> but she never boots to it
[04:01] <corvax> no need
[04:01] <SebastianM> corvax, hehe, I would love to run ubuntu-only on this laptop but my father uses it aswell
[04:01] <munin> Where does the "System > Preferences > Sessions" configuration file reside? For some reason I am unable to remove sessions from the GUI.
[04:01] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, yes thats what i used to install ubuntu
[04:01] <GoDawgs> then you guys should wax the win partition
[04:01] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, oh, cool!
[04:02] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, what are you trying to do?
[04:02] <AntMaz> ok
[04:02] <hondje> munin: if it's not there, you can run 'gnome-session' from the terminal
[04:02] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, increase my ext3-partition with ubuntu installed on it
[04:02] <corvax> when dapper goes gold
[04:02] <corvax> the wind partion is gone
[04:03] <SebastianM> haha:D
[04:03] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, you can safely resize it without it messing up linux.  Do a backup if you dont want to take any chances
[04:03] <punkrockguy318> Hmm, for some reason i can't get any direct rendering in Xgl
[04:03] <dyrne> stupid question.. trying to change hostname someone tell me equivalent of /etc/sysconfig/network ?
[04:03] <corvax> have you see the videos of xgl in action
[04:04] <jtdgrz> are there any system reqs for ubuntu
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> it says Mesa GLX indirect
[04:04] <corvax> i almsot shit
[04:04] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, ok, thanks!
[04:04] <SebastianM> people are so kind here :')
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> corvax: yeah, they're awesome
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> corvax: i'm running Xgl right now but it's giving me lots of problems
[04:04] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, n.p
[04:04] <corvax> xglis in dapper as well as compiz i heard
[04:04] <corvax> in the repos that is
[04:04] <oklinux> can some one help me set up sound card sis si7012 ?
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> corvax: yeah, it's in universe
[04:05] <oklinux> is a realtek alc655 rev 0
[04:05] <punkrockguy318> corvax: whenever i run compiz, i get a black and white screen
[04:05] <punkrockguy318> windows are white but everything is black
[04:05] <OmegaAlpha> Anyone familiar with loading modules into the kernel at boot up?
[04:05] <oklinux> corvax I dont have alsaconf
[04:05] <punkrockguy318> i can still do the cube thing, but i can't do anything
[04:05] <crimsun> oklinux: pastebin the output from: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[04:06] <punkrockguy318> OmegaAlpha: /etc/modules
[04:06] <corvax> oklinux me either
[04:06] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, yes i know im in gedit with right now.. i just dont know what to enter for my wifi module :(
[04:06] <corvax> not in ubuntu repos i guess
[04:07] <punkrockguy318> do you know the module name/
[04:07] <LinuxJones> OmegaAlpha, add the module name to /etc/modules like nvidia for example
[04:07] <stephen> hmmm is there a reasonable way to get a computer outside a router networked with those inside via samba?
[04:07] <corvax> heres the video wow
[04:07] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, no.
[04:07] <corvax> http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
[04:08] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, would the module name be the name of the driver which i just installed to get it to work?
[04:08] <crimsun> oklinux: tell me the url after you've pastebinned it
[04:08] <concept10> Anyone of you guys know how to switch back to hardware acceleration in xorg?
[04:08] <punkrockguy318> OmegaAlpha: what was the driver name?
[04:09] <LinuxJones> OmegaAlpha, do lsmod and look to see it's name
[04:09] <drummer87> hi there.. i'm looking at getting a mini print server (netgear ps101, specifically) and need to know if and how i can set this up in ubuntu.
[04:09] <oklinux> it blank crimsun
[04:09] <chi> i cant connect to the internet after a fresh install i can connect to local computers tho any suggestions why?
[04:10] <stephen> hmmm is there a reasonable way to get a computer outside a router networked with those inside via samba?
[04:10] <linkd> chi: how you connecting? via gateway router?
[04:10] <SebastianM> In windows, you install programs with setup-files. Is it the same in ubuntu?
[04:10] <drummer87> i've found these specs, but not sure if these'll work in ubuntu
[04:10] <chi> linkd: yes
[04:10] <drummer87> # Protocol support: TCP/IP, DHCP client  --   # Printing methods: peer-to-peer (PTP) and SMB over TCP/IP, Windows LPD printing
[04:10] <drummer87> any hints anyone??
[04:10] <linkd> SebastianM: you have like ./configure; make; make install in linux, or just use package management
[04:11] <chi> linkd: static ip's on a router
[04:11] <linkd> chi: hmmz, what happens when you try to ping google.com?
[04:11] <crimsun> oklinux: what's blank/
[04:11] <navarone> SebastianM, no...in ubuntu you use synaptic or apt-get command to retireve and install packages from net
[04:11] <SebastianM> oh
[04:11] <linkd> have you configured /etc/network/interfaces for a static ip chi ?
[04:11] <chi> linkd: i get a replie
[04:11] <Madpilot> !tell SebastianM about synaptic
[04:11] <SebastianM> ...another thing to learn :)
[04:11] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, i dont think i see it in there... if im using ndiswrapper on this driver... and ndiswrapper is listed.. would i put that in the boot file?
[04:12] <navarone> Sebastian it's basically how update works too
[04:12] <Madpilot> SebastianM: the link the bot just sent you will explain a lot
[04:12] <punkrockguy318> hmm i'm not sure :-\
[04:12] <SebastianM> yeah, thanks!
[04:12] <linkd> chi: hmm, are you able to resolve hosts? i wont had a similar problem except i had problems resolving hosts.
[04:12] <linkd> *i once
[04:12] <oklinux> crimsun I cant find the file you told me
[04:12] <corvax> turn on dhcp on the rounter see if that works
[04:12] <crimsun> oklinux: are you typing those two commands in a Terminal?
[04:12] <dsas> hmm, does anyone know of a way to reply-to-list in thunderbird? I can't find anything about it having the feature, but maybe my google-fu is running out?
[04:12] <corvax> and go from there
[04:12] <linkd> chi: try "host nullnetwork.net" for kicks and tell me if it works
[04:13] <Jivenix> !broadcom
[04:13] <ubotu> it has been said that broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[04:13] <Jivenix> that stupid bot is infinitely useful
[04:13] <Igorayeb> Anybody no whi cause this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[04:13] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, i thinks ndiswrapper is what im needing to boot at kernel... do i just type 'ndiswrapper' in the list then?
[04:13] <Jivenix> how do you add stuff to it?
[04:13] <Jivenix> ndiswrapper -m
[04:13] <oklinux> crimsun can I pm you ?
[04:13] <chi> linkd: yes that is the problem i cant resolve any hosts!
[04:14] <AntMaz> _jason that worked thanks alot
[04:14] <chi> linkd: how did you fix that?
[04:14] <linkd> chi: gotcha! now what router are you using?
[04:14] <crimsun> oklinux: keep it in here, please, unless it's a paste (use pastebin then)
[04:14] <_jason> AntMaz: np
[04:14] <chi> linkd:  its an actiontec
[04:14] <chi> linkd: it runs busybox
[04:14] <NetGeek> not liking gnome-xchat, and reason I would want to get it over Xchat in Dapper
[04:14] <chi> i dont have this problem with my gentoo machines =/
[04:14] <Igorayeb> Anybody no whi cause this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[04:15] <punkrockguy318> OmegaAlpha: you can try it
[04:15] <marius_> is there a msn client that has picturesupport
[04:15] <linkd> chi: ok ive never heard of that, however this is what is happening, basically you're linux box is defaulting to always using your router as the nameserver (at your routers request) so effectively linux is overwriting resolv.conf all the time
[04:15] <corvax> try using  opern wrt
[04:15] <corvax> and a wrt54g
[04:15] <linkd> chi: i came up with 2 solutions.
[04:16] <irv10tz> ei is it true that linux doesn't have spyware, malware, viruses???
[04:16] <IdleOne> marius_:  amsn
[04:16] <linkd> chi: 1 was to use cron to enforce resolv.conf (hackish)
[04:16] <marius_> that doesnt have images...
[04:16] <Igorayeb> marius_, you no the mercury MSN client
[04:16] <irv10tz> ei is it true that linux doesn't have spyware, malware, viruses???
[04:16] <chi> linkd: use an outside dns server?
[04:16] <linkd> chi: second was i bought a new router, but in theory if you could find the setting on the router, you could disable it
[04:16] <sambagirl> can someone help me with my telnet problems with my citadel bbs?
[04:16] <IdleOne> marius_:  sorry i dont use it
[04:16] <linkd> chi: exactly
[04:16] <chi> linkd: thanks ;] 
[04:16] <GoDawgs> hey guys how do i get firefox to show up in my menu?
[04:16] <irv10tz> ei is it true that linux doesn't have spyware, malware, viruses???
[04:16] <chi> ys using your router as the nameserver (at your routers request) so effectively linux is overwriting resolv.conf all the time
[04:16] <linkd> chi: i went from a dlink 504 to a linksys product and it worked perfect (and i actually prefer the linksys router)
[04:16] <chi> damn oops
[04:17] <GoDawgs> irv10tz: of course it is!
[04:17] <navarone> irv10tz, there's lots...spyware is watching us now...lol...j/k....im a kidder
[04:17] <sambagirl> anyone running a bbs in there ubuntu?
[04:17] <GoDawgs> not me sambagirl
[04:17] <sambagirl> ok godogs
[04:17] <navarone> do people still run bbs's?
[04:17] <yoge> Hi, Can anyone tell me Who can I create partitions so window$ reinstallation won't overwrite the MBR?
[04:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi can somone help me with a small problem, i have an older pc i'm trying to install ubuntu on, but i can't seem to boot from the disc, can anyone tell me what bios settings i should have
[04:17] <marius_> Witch ver. should i download
[04:17] <marius_> Debian?
[04:17] <sambagirl> i have 1 on our xp and 1 on our amiga but not 1 on our ubuntu.
[04:17] <oklinux>  http://pastebin.com/562153 crimmsun
[04:17] <hondje> navarone: almost all of them are talkers now
[04:17] <quacker> sambagirl, as in a dial-up B(ulletin) B(oard) S(ervice) ??!
[04:18] <corvax> what do you use busybox for
[04:18] <corvax> ?
[04:18] <Igorayeb> Anybody no whi cause this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[04:18] <oklinux> http://pastebin.com/562153 corvax
[04:18] <sambagirl> quacker mostly telnet but sure we let others who cannot access have access the old fashioned way.
[04:18] <linkd> yoge: just install windows then boot a livecd and type "grub-install /dev/hdX" or if you use lilo, just type "lilo"
[04:18] <quacker> sambagirl, you are a rare animal indeed...
[04:18] <chi> corvax: busybox is a linux distro it happends to be on the router i got from Qwest
[04:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi can somone help me with a small problem, i have an older pc i'm trying to install ubuntu on, but i can't seem to boot from the disc, can anyone tell me what bios settings i should have
[04:18] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  you running breezy or dapper?
[04:18] <AntMaz> got this problem
[04:18] <AntMaz> E: lilypond-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:18] <linkd> yoge: that command will overwrite the MBR and fix it for linux & windows to coexist
[04:18] <GoDawgs> dapper :)
[04:19] <corvax> chi they have a similar thing you can try
[04:19] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: dapper
[04:19] <corvax> called openwrt
[04:19] <corvax> on an wrt54g
[04:19] <quacker> sambagirl, would yoiu be interested in telling more about the BBS in #ubuntu-offtopic?  (Please.)
[04:19] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  I would think that in Dapper it would be in Aplications > internet also but I dont use Dapper yet
[04:19] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: and I'm using kubuntu... thought it would add automatically...
[04:19] <linkd> doesnt openwrt have a fair few vunerabilities in it?
[04:19] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: yeah me too...
[04:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi can somone help me with a small problem, i have an older pc i'm trying to install ubuntu on, but i can't seem to boot from the disc, can anyone tell me what bios settings i should have
[04:19] <navarone> I remember bbs's...sheesh
[04:19] <sambagirl> i installed the telnet server but it does not show up in process running and it was put into the /etc/inetd.config file or something like that. if the # is infront of the statement does that cause it not to work, the statement?
[04:20] <NetGeek> Flight4 for Dapper is out
[04:20] <chi> i ferget how do i add root user?
[04:20] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: it added it automatically when i was using ubuntu dapper... but since i've switched over to kubuntu dapper it's different
[04:20] <chi> to ubuntu*
[04:20] <amphi> sambagirl: yeah, # comments it out
[04:20] <oklinux> crimsun you here
[04:20] <corvax> sudo passwd
[04:20] <linkd> chi: just set a password for root
[04:20] <sambagirl> ahh ok thanks amphi
[04:20] <amphi> sambagirl: a leading # that is
[04:20] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  try #kubuntu they might be able to help more
[04:20] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: ok
[04:20] <oklinux> any one try wine in ubuntu
[04:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell chi about root
[04:20] <linkd> oklinux: sure
[04:20] <GoDawgs> they haven't been much help but i'll give 'em another shot
[04:20] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  sorry :/
[04:20] <oklinux> linkd does it work ?
[04:20] <MotorCityMadMan> canyouhelplz: set your machine to boot from CD Rom first under boot tab
[04:20] <linkd> oklinux: yep
[04:20] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: oh no biggie... it happens :)
[04:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> MotorCityMadMan: i did, but it doesn't work
[04:21] <quacker> sambagirl, daemons run from /etc/init.d/[daemon_name] 
[04:21] <sambagirl> if you telnet to uncensored.citadel.org you can see what i set up or we setup but we canont make it do what that does. do we need to set up a sub domain for things like this?
[04:21] <oklinux> how easy to set it up
[04:21] <SebastianM> I have this iso-file which is supposed to be a program, does someone know how to install it? :S
[04:21] <sambagirl> whta is a daemon anyway?
[04:21] <linkd> oklinux: is that a question or..?
[04:21] <marius_> I need a program that is simular to Dreamweaver(HTML/PHP etc. editor)
[04:21] <MotorCityMadMan> canyouhelpplz: does your rom drive work ?
[04:21] <marius_> Does somebody know of that?
[04:21] <sambagirl> use NVU
[04:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> MotorCityMadMan: yes
[04:22] <sambagirl> marius_ use NVU
[04:22] <oklinux> I got to run will talk later
[04:22] <linkd> ok
[04:22] <quacker> sambagirl, for general help with terms definitions and concepts, I recommend you join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:22] <AntMaz> samagirl google it
[04:22] <oklinux> thanks guuys
[04:22] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:22] <jtdgrz> are there any system reqs for ubuntu
[04:22] <amphi> sambagirl: what do you mean?
[04:23] <ipfw> the base ubuntu install CD comes with devel tooks right, like ld, gcc, make, as, bison, perl, python ?
[04:23] <ipfw> s/tooks/tools/
[04:23] <amphi> !build-essential
[04:23] <ubotu> I heard build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[04:23] <sambagirl> well i did everything the instructions said but for some reason i dont know if the telnet server is even running i cant tell 1 way or the other? is there a test?
[04:23] <MotorCityMadMan> cnayouhelpplz: check again that you have cdrom booting first and make sure you save new config
[04:24] <AntMaz> i have broken packages how can i fix that
[04:24] <yoge> linkd: thanks, but is there any way to prevent this?, I once tried using a grub boot floppy and: root (hda0,0) ;setup(hd0);reboot ;but didn't work
[04:24] <sambagirl> marius_ you will really like NVU
[04:24] <marius_> Have any1 heard Lion King Theme song?
[04:24] <AntMaz> marius or you can use jedit
[04:24] <amphi> sambagirl: uncensored.citadel.org seems to be working, if that's what you mean
[04:24] <marius_> In the intro they sing "naaaaaziii kem venga"
[04:24] <AntMaz> thats what i use
[04:24] <Jivenix> hey, i'm trying to follow this instructions that uses a for loop in the shell
[04:24] <Jivenix> in the loop, you do
[04:25] <sambagirl> yes but that is uncensored, i we setup one on our house lans
[04:25] <Jivenix> sudo cat blah blah blah > blah
[04:25] <sambagirl> on the ubuntu computer
[04:25] <Jivenix> but i get a permission denied
[04:25] <sambagirl> er kubuntu computer
[04:25] <amphi> sambagirl: so telnet to it
[04:25] <Jivenix> its trying to do a find replace in some files
[04:25] <AntMaz> uncensored  huh samba girl
[04:25] <sambagirl> you mean mine?
[04:25] <elkbuntu> sambagirl, i agree, NVU is the closest to dreamweaver yet
[04:25] <amphi> Jivenix: you need to do cat foo | sudo tee blah I believe
[04:25] <linkd> yoge: well windows is nazi about the MBR, itll ALWAYS want to reset it so only windows boots, so when that happens you have to reinstall the bootloader to fix it
[04:25] <sambagirl> it's wonderful NVU
[04:25] <marius_> What of the VER.?
[04:26] <marius_> Im confused
[04:26] <Jivenix> i am
[04:26] <marius_> on NVU
[04:26] <Jivenix> but i get a permission denied
[04:26] <marius_> THis one?
[04:26] <marius_> Tarball built on Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5
[04:26] <navarone> yoge or install grub on floppy...<s>
[04:26] <amphi> Jivenix: you said you did sudo cat file > blah, not what I wrote
[04:26] <Jivenix> cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[04:26] <elkbuntu> sambagirl, i prefer quanta cos because i've never been a fan of wysiwyg ;) but NVU is good, yes
[04:26] <Jivenix> sudo cat*
[04:26] <Madpilot> marius_: get Nvu from the Ubuntu Universe repo...
[04:26] <MotorCityMadMan> as my eye sight is going away from me / old i is / how do i enlarge my mouse pointer ? thank you :-)
[04:26] <AntMaz> you can always use gedit
[04:26] <Jivenix> lol
[04:27] <Jivenix> there's too many files
[04:27] <marius_> Madpilot? where?
[04:27] <marius_> URL?
[04:27] <elkbuntu> AntMaz, who was that to? :P
[04:27] <amphi> Jivenix: cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' | sudo tee $conffile
[04:27] <Madpilot> marius_: Application menu --> Add Applications, then search for nvu
[04:27] <marius_> kk
[04:27] <Jivenix> lemme try
[04:27] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:27] <sambagirl> ok my domain is riojams.com but you telnet to riojams.com nothing happens. someone try and maybe you see something to explain the problem.
[04:28] <sambagirl> i probably need sub domain for like bbs.riojams.com
[04:28] <sambagirl> ?
[04:28] <navarone> MotorCityMadMan, in System.prefs/mouse you can change cursour theme...but I only have one installed myself...that I know of...lol
[04:28] <marius_> ahh 1m and then i got NVU
[04:28] <AntMaz> whoever writes with php or html
[04:28] <Jivenix> it worked!
[04:28] <Jivenix> what's tee
[04:28] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, i believe there is a way, let me find this, i was looking this up for someone yesterday
[04:28] <eugman> Hey what do I do to install a jar file?
[04:28] <elkbuntu> AntMaz, i like quanta+
[04:29] <Jivenix> eugman, copy it to the file syste
[04:29] <elkbuntu> AntMaz, it has the file browser and good syntax highlighting
[04:29] <Jivenix> m
[04:29] <rukuartic_> Hey... does anyone know how I'd log in to a terminal instead of gnome?
[04:29] <Madpilot> eugman: you don't, you just run it
[04:29] <navarone> eugman you don't install it you run it
[04:29] <amphi> sambagirl: 'Connected to c-67-191-245-116.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.' but then disconnects after I type some garbage; no prompt or message appears
[04:29] <AntMaz> ive never used that or heard of it i just started to write html and php
[04:29] <MotorCityMadMan> navarrone: wonder where i can get some cursor themse ?
[04:29] <amphi> Jivenix: man tee ;)
[04:29] <sambagirl> however the webbased versoin works. http://www.riojams.com:2000
[04:29] <Jivenix> lol ok
[04:29] <sambagirl> but the other one doesnt the telnet one.
[04:29] <AntMaz> so does jedit
[04:29] <Jivenix> thanks for the tip
[04:29] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, there is a theme specifically for accessibility, let me find the name
[04:29] <navarone> eugman command in termianl is java -far <file>.jar
[04:29] <AntMaz> and it makes pretty colors ha
[04:30] <navarone> far = jar
[04:30] <Madpilot> navarone & eugman: java -jar foo.jar
[04:30] <marius_> ByeBye pepz
[04:30] <marius_> The clock isnow in norway: 4:30 AM
[04:30] <marius_> ^^
[04:30] <Madpilot> AntMaz: try Bluefish, it's a nice HTML/CSS/etc editor
[04:30] <MotorCityMadMan> elkbuntu: thank you
[04:30] <OmegaAlpha> what does direct rendering mean? if its set to no or yes?
[04:30] <chi> sweet dns resolution is working ;] 
[04:30] <marius_> MadPilot it doesnt have preview
[04:30] <navarone> marius I thought you were saying the clock was snowing...lol
[04:31] <marius_> navarone that to!
[04:31] <WezlFawlty> time dandruff
[04:31] <eugman> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[04:31] <AntMaz> ah im ok with jedit for now
[04:31] <eugman> any ideas?
[04:31] <marius_> ByeBye
[04:31] <chi> is there a http://ubuntuguide.org/ for ubunut 5.10 ?
[04:31] <navarone> eugamn you have java installed?
[04:31] <eugman> probably not. heh
[04:31] <linkd> chi: how did u fix it in the end?
[04:32] <navarone> !java
[04:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:32] <SebastianM> hm... I pressed ctrl+alt+f2, and my computer flipped out... ^^
[04:32] <MotorCityMadMan> chi: yes http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:32] <eugman> does java common count?
[04:32] <joeljkp> can someone help me with an ATI error: "(EE) fglrx(0): R200PreInit failed"?
[04:32] <navarone> eugman or you can use synaptic to install blackdown java
[04:32] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[04:32] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[04:32] <eugman> I guess not
[04:32] <rukuartic_> Hey... anyone know how I can exit XTerm and get to a straight console?
[04:32] <Madpilot> !tell chi about docs
[04:32] <AntMaz> anyone know how to fix broken packages in the synaptic package thingymabober (4|\|7|\/|42=|\|0013
[04:32] <chi> i added the dns servers that my router does its resolution so ubuntu basicly bypasses my router for dns stuff
[04:33] <Madpilot> chi: also, help.ubuntu.com
[04:33] <eugman> jre1.4?
[04:33] <linkd> chi: good call. i tried that too, but i didnt think much of the dlink 504.
[04:33] <navarone> Antmaz in synaptic "Status" choose broken and fix I guess...lol
[04:33] <corvax> i loathe dlink
[04:33] <corvax> lol
[04:33] <linkd> corvax: yea me too! all the products ive bought from them where poor
[04:33] <corvax> ive had nothing but problems with their products
[04:33] <linkd> *were
[04:34] <linkd> ditto!
[04:34] <AntMaz> well you guessed wrong, didnt work
[04:34] <corvax> i have 2 routers and a pcmcia card sitting on the rack now
[04:34] <corvax> just collecting dust
[04:34] <navarone> Antmaz Edit/Fix Broken packages
[04:35] <linkd> i refused to buy a pcmcia card from them (tho i nearly!) and i have 2 routers collecting dust also. then i have a shitty kvm them made too
[04:35] <AntMaz> ok thank you
[04:35] <eugman> Man linux always finds new way to make me feel like an idiot and a genius.
[04:35] <linkd> *tho i nearly did
[04:35] <corvax> the card wouldnt even power up even in windows
[04:35] <navarone> AntMaz, if it was a bear it would have bite you...;
[04:35] <linkd> yea, i wised up at that point and went with linksys. a prism2 card. good stuff.
[04:36] <corvax> well it did a few times
[04:36] <corvax> and that was it
[04:36] <AntMaz> i ask some questions sometimes and while im waiting for an answer i figure them out usually
[04:36] <AntMaz> im just special
[04:36] <AntMaz> dee dee dee
[04:37] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, if you havent done so already, you should do this: apt-get install gnome-accessibility-themes gtk2-engines-highcontrast
[04:37] <rukuartic_> Does anyone know how to drop out of a gnome session while logged in and just end up with a terminal?
[04:37] <MotorCityMadMan> elkuntu:thank you
[04:37] <amphi> rukuartic_: alt-ctrl-f1 ?
[04:38] <rukuartic_> Does that actually close gnome?
[04:38] <rukuartic_> or does that just send you to a console?
[04:38] <navarone> rukuartic_,  init 3  maybe rukuartic_
[04:38] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, i would presume the gnome accessibility theme would have better cursors in it
[04:38] <amphi> rukuartic_: perhaps sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:39] <rukuartic> identify altec
[04:39] <rukuartic> Dooooh.
[04:39] <linkd> haha
[04:39] <linkd> password changing time
[04:39] <iceman2k> well, anyoe able to help on the nvidia install
[04:39] <amphi> rukuartic_: to permanently remove gui login, update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:39] <djzn> is there a way to see spectral view in AUDACITY?
[04:39] <Madpilot> rukuartic: might want to change your pw now...
[04:39] <rukuartic> bwahaha yes.
[04:39] <MotorCityMadMan> elkuntu: ok thak you , one more thing / how do i copy the nicks for faster working in chat win ?
[04:40] <amphi> MotorCityMadMan: you should be able to tab-complete them
[04:40] <corvax> !nvidia
[04:40] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, you can type the start of someone's nick and hit tab
[04:40] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:40] <iceman2k> I need the link to the nvidia video driver page ... how to ... please
[04:40] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:40] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, if there are multiple options, xchat will likely tell you so you can add more letters
[04:40] <iceman2k> corvax thanks
[04:40] <eugman> Hey is there any good programing langauge with acess to sdl or some other drawing library and has simple syntax?
[04:41] <corvax> yw
[04:41] <amphi> eugman: c
[04:41] <ptlo> eugman: python + pygame
[04:42] <amphi> eugman: c + svgalib for console fun ;)
[04:42] <rukuartic> haleighluiah! mysql finished compiliing
[04:42] <rukuartic> that took forever
[04:42] <Madpilot> rukuartic: php is in the repos - why did you compile?
[04:43] <OmegaAlpha> anyone now what direct rendering does if its turned on ?
[04:43] <iceman2k> there anyway to confirm if the nvidia driver is installed ?
[04:43] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: 3d accel
[04:43] <rukuartic> Madpilot, Got too much time on mah hands :D
[04:44] <rukuartic> That, and I'm trying to learn a bit of linux in my spare time
[04:44] <eugman> K. I need to take a few steps up from TI89Basic. Unfortunately I had a lot of problems last time I tried learning c/c++ with sdl because I had trouble learning when you need a semicolon or parenthisis and such.
[04:44] <eugman> And inheritence. I still haven't learned that works yet.
[04:44] <MotorCityMadMan> what this all about ? Couldn't stat source package list http://  bal bl bl and so on stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:44] <MotorCityMadMan> 
[04:44] <iceman2k> whats the glx gears run command ?
[04:45] <Madpilot> iceman2k: glxgears
[04:45] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, hello again.  well i was just reading in wiki about it. you remember the probs i had.. should mine be on?
[04:45] <elkbuntu> hmm..
[04:45] <Alexi5> later
[04:45] <iceman2k> Madpilot well, loox like i lack glx installed
[04:46] <Jivenix> i went through the instructions to get my wifi card working, and i got as far as installing the driver such that ndiwrapper -l shows it installed wiht no error
[04:46] <Jivenix> and the wifi enabled light comes on
[04:46] <MotorCityMadMan> Failed to fetch /  404 Not Found
[04:46] <Jivenix> when i boot into ubuntu, but it does not show up in the network config tool
[04:46] <Jivenix> or when i do iwconfig
[04:46] <Jivenix> or ifconfig
[04:47] <Jivenix> any suggestions?
[04:47] <MotorCityMadMan> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:47] <jariep1_> hi all
[04:47] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <gloin> ergh
[04:48] <jariep1_> somebody told me before how to change between installed java versions, but I can't seem to remember
[04:48] <Alexi5> hello
[04:48] <fangorious> is there a tool to tell me the current refresh rate?
[04:48] <gloin> so I'm not able to get tv viewer to work
[04:48] <gloin> if it shows anything at all it's just static
[04:48] <Alexi5> why does ubuntu use so much memory
[04:48] <rukuartic> Alexi5, Gnome :P
[04:48] <gloin> this hardware was working perfectly under SuSE this morning, so I know the tv is right
[04:48] <gloin> hehe
[04:48] <gloin> rukuartic: some of us are kubuntu people
[04:49] <Alexi5> acording to the 'top' command my system is using 754636k
[04:49] <Alexi5> i have 768MB RAM
[04:49] <rukuartic> gloin, Heh
[04:49] <Madpilot> Alexi5: because you've got it available - Linux will use all of your available resources
[04:49] <Alexi5> oh ok
[04:49] <Madpilot> Alexi5: most of that usage is probably cache
[04:49] <fangorious> Alexi5: linux keeps recently used data/programs cached in memory even after they're not in use, because those things are more likely to be needed in the near future
[04:49] <MotorCityMadMan> Madpilot, i started of trying to incress my poniter size / so i started here:apt-get install gnome-accessibility-themes gtk2-engines-highcontrast
[04:49] <Madpilot> try "free" instead of "top"
[04:49] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, it hasnt managed to use up 3.6gb of swap yet :)
[04:50] <corvax> jivenix
[04:50] <Alexi5> but i see the total amount of memory used by the applications running according to top don't add up to the amount used
[04:50] <gloin> !!!
[04:50] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gloin
[04:50] <gloin> !kdetv
[04:50] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gloin
[04:50] <corvax> click system and network
[04:50] <gloin> sigh
[04:50] <Alexi5> ok
[04:50] <gloin> !tv
[04:50] <ubotu> gloin: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:50] <iceman> is there a easy way to reconfigure your screen resolution settings ....
[04:50] <rukuartic> On the topic of system memory
[04:50] <corvax> is the wireless card listed there>?
[04:50] <fangorious> Alexi5:  that's because data is being kept in memory, as it is the most likely data to be used in the future
[04:50] <rukuartic> How would I stop some certain things from booting/running? Like RAID services and HP Printing Support?
[04:51] <Alexi5> ok
[04:51] <rukuartic> Last I checked, I have no RAID devices or HP printers
[04:51] <MotorCityMadMan> i just install ubuntu yesterday / all new here / i can't see the letters on the screen or the mouse pointer
[04:51] <WezlFawlty> CanYouHelpMePlz are you here?
[04:51] <Alexi5> when i used freebsd it only used about 200MB max when running gnome
[04:51] <iceman> I need to shrink my on screen icons ... in gnome ... help
[04:51] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, Do you have  a supported graphics card?
[04:52] <gloin> ok, I'm going to try xawtv
[04:52] <MotorCityMadMan> rukuartic, where do i look to find ?
[04:52] <ablyss> rukuartic, i use webmin to do things like that
[04:52] <fangorious> how can I check what vertical refresh rate my display is running at?
[04:52] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:53] <rukuartic> ablyss, that some gui program?
[04:53] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: have you added the Universe repos?
[04:53] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, crack open your box
[04:53] <gloin> what's the name of the gnome tv viewer?
[04:53] <MotorCityMadMan> rukuartic, ok taking box apart now /
[04:54] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: do you have a display at all, or what?
[04:54] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, I'm just guessing you don't have a supported gfx card
[04:54] <ablyss> rukuartic, it is a web browser based thing
[04:54] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, Did you try typing "starx"?
[04:54] <rukuartic> ablyss, Do tell
[04:54] <MotorCityMadMan> Madpilot, what is universe reos ?
[04:54] <iceman> anyone know if battlefield 2 is available for linux ...
[04:54] <rukuartic> iceman, The server? Probably
[04:55] <Evodawg> rukuartic: do you mean startx?
[04:55] <gloin> iceman: no...
[04:55] <Alexi5> is it rather unusual for someone to add 768MB of RAM to a system just to run linux
[04:55] <Madpilot> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:55] <rukuartic> Evodawg, Tha ttoo
[04:55] <iceman> any other good games for linux ?
[04:55] <gloin> !tv
[04:55] <ubotu> gloin: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: see the bot's post above ^^^
[04:55] <rukuartic> Madpilot, he's got no gui
[04:55] <MotorCityMadMan> yes
[04:55] <rukuartic> Madpilot, gnome's not running
[04:56] <Madpilot> rukuartic: ah... bleh, messy
[04:56] <rukuartic> Madpilot, Wait, what do you mean no display?
[04:56] <ablyss> rukuartic, if you do apt-get install webmin, access the webmin login page at http://localhost:10000 user 'root' password is not set in ubuntu so you have to modify it yourself 'sudo -c root passwd'
[04:56] <iceman> I know farcry is available for linux ... A A .... wolfenstein ... any others
[04:56] <vercellone> I have sarge installed and running on /dev/sda1, and am trying establish a parallel ubuntu install on /dev/sdc1, but am having trouble getting it to boot my grub configuration keeps resulting in cannot mount root fs kernel panic error
[04:56] <wastrel> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:57] <Madpilot> iceburgh: Enemy Territory is available, free to download
[04:57] <ablyss> https://localhost:10000 sorry rukuartic use https not http
[04:57] <gloin> something's wrong with this damn tv decoder
[04:57] <gloin> but it worked
[04:57] <terribleCabbage> So, err, just a quick question: does Ubuntu support IDE harddrives and SATA harddrives together in the same system?
[04:58] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know the Opengl update command?
[04:58] <ablyss> rukuartic, from there you can mess around with the start up processes as easy as checking email
[04:58] <rukuartic> ablyss, thx
[04:58] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: sure, I had both for a while - currenly SATA only
[04:58] <wastrel> is there a mail server installed by default with breezy?
[04:59] <MotorCityMadMan> ubotu, thank you / good start for me / very kind to help a new memeber
[04:59] <ablyss> fetchmail ?
[04:59] <ubotu> MotorCityMadMan: de nada
[04:59] <vercellone> I think my ubuntu install is updating the wrong devices mbr
[04:59] <wastrel> ablyss:  i meant an SMTP server
[04:59] <fangorious> fetchmail isn't a server
[04:59] <_jason> wow that's the first smart thing I have ever seen ubotu do :)
[04:59] <ablyss> okay sorry
[04:59] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Ok. I couldn't get it to install with both present, so I disabled the SATA and installed to the IDE. Booting from that works fine. As soon as I try to boot with the SATA drives enabled, GRUB dies on me.
[04:59] <terribleCabbage> (Error code 31? I'll have to check again.)
[04:59] <fangorious> wastrel: i don't think so, but postfix is in the repos
[04:59] <terribleCabbage> ... Sorry, 22.*
[05:00] <wastrel> fangorious:  kk just wondering.  i have mailq but no mail server heh
[05:00] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: ubotu is a bot - but it knows about 'thank you', I see
[05:00] <wastrel> i just decided to see where all my system mail was going heh
[05:00] <fangorious> wastrel: exim4 is packaged too
[05:00] <Madpilot> ubotu tell MotorCityMadMan about yourself
[05:00] <gloin> frell
[05:00] <gloin> something's broken in ubuntu
[05:00] <fangorious> wastrel: i've wondered about that too, never cared enough to find out though ;)
[05:00] <gloin> for tv viewing
[05:01] <rukuartic> Anyone know how to run apache toolbox so it doesn't try to reconfigure and install stuff if it crashes?
[05:01] <iceman> any good 3d shooters for linux ....
[05:01] <rukuartic> iceman, bzflag
[05:02] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Do the drive references stay the same when you have the SATA/IDE combo? (As in, I have the following hd setup: IDE, IDE, two cdroms, then two SATA drives. Will the second drive remain hdb with the SATA drives enabled?)
[05:02] <MotorCityMadMan> MotorCityMadMan, needs a smoke
[05:02] <MotorCityMadMan> brain over load
[05:02] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: the SATA drives will be sdX - so sda, sdb etc
[05:02] <iceman> rukuartic ... not that great ... compared to enemy terratory
[05:02] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Here we go, someone with the same question: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-123187.html
[05:02] <rukuartic> iceman, Its a time consumer :D
[05:02] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: when I had 1 SATA & 1 ATA/IDE, they were sda1 & hda1
[05:03] <Jivenix> is there a way i can get/change/use su password?
[05:03] <iceman> i want good multiplayer ... large maps ...
[05:03] <fangorious> Jivenix: 'sudo -s' will give you a root shell, you can probably run 'passwd root' from there
[05:03] <Madpilot> iceman: America's Army? (assuming you don't mind a bit of US military propaganda on your computer...)
[05:04] <Jivenix> ok i'll try
[05:04] <AntMaz> BOOM HEADSHOT
[05:04] <Madpilot> Jivenix: why do you need a root pw?
[05:04] <iceman> Madpilot ... A A is fair .... Training requirements suck ...
[05:04] <fangorious> Jivenix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[05:05] <ablyss> Jivenix, su -c root passwd
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  i think hes thinking of just changing the first users password.
[05:05] <Jivenix> i got it, thanks
[05:05] <Tezkah> anyone know why ra0 (ralink wireless driver) causes the system to do a hard lockup when activated?
[05:05] <terribleCabbage> Gah, is it always so busy in here?
[05:05] <Tezkah> (on dapper drake no less)
[05:05] <cfh_dev> Has anyone been able to install Opera 9 TP2 on Ubuntu?
[05:05] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: this is pretty standard for this channel
[05:05] <ablyss> terribleCabbage, this is relativley slow night :P
[05:06] <Madpilot> cfh_dev: yeah, I did just a few hours ago, actually - it's pretty cool
[05:06] <ablyss> opera 9 TP2 ?
[05:07] <ACU> Hi guys - do you know how to install kerbersos or LDAP so I can access a windows network --- loging in a windows domain ?
[05:07] <Madpilot> ablyss: yes
[05:07] <Tezkah> technical preview two, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A//snapshot.opera.com/unix/u90p2.html&ei=5O73Q5yuNZ3CiwGowK3mAg&sig2=8-vWIowkrt7vxAB-iQOaLw
[05:07] <ablyss> cfh_dev, as far as I know I use the latest opera on ubuntu.. unless I missed something
[05:07] <jdumont> Yes I could look up repositorie on the net but what does it mean in laymans terms?  Referring to the ftp repositorie. (sp)?
[05:07] <Tezkah> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/9.0-Preview-2/intel-linux/  cant you just install this with dpkg -i ???
[05:07] <ablyss> TP2 = test preview 2 ?
[05:07] <Tezkah> opera-static_9.0-20060206.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[05:07] <fangorious> I have three modelines for resolutions at 75 Hz refresh rate, and they are the only resolutions configured for my color depth, but I'm still not getting a display at 75 Hz (only 60 Hz). How come I've even getting a display if it's not a configured resolution?
[05:07] <Madpilot> Tezkah: sure
[05:07] <cfh_dev> I can't seem to resolve the dependencies. (xlibs xlib6g)
[05:08] <Madpilot> ablyss: technical preview I think
[05:08] <_jason> jdumont: it's an online storage site for packages
[05:08] <chuck> Anyone know how to configure tetex for Japanese?
[05:08] <ablyss> oh
[05:08] <FSCK> PLEASE HELP!!! I cannot boot into Breezy!!! Root file check constantlly fails on bootup and I don't know what to do. PLEASE HELP!!!
[05:08] <ablyss> i'm probably running standard version
[05:08] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, did you get those packages installed?
[05:08] <Tezkah> hahaha... someone has IE VIEW installed on Firefox on Linux
[05:08] <fangorious> FSCK: does it give you a root prompt after failing the root fs check?
[05:08] <cfh_dev> ablyss: I'm running Dapper
[05:09] <FSCK> fangorious:  yes. something like root@(none)~#: or something like it...
[05:09] <redblade> got a Nmap 3.95 but I'm not sur ehow to get it working. I have all the files but when a Cd'd to the Directory,
[05:10] <FSCK> fangorious: root@(none):~#
[05:10] <fangorious> FSCK: at that prompt, run 'fsck' with your root fs partition (something like /dev/hda1) and answer 'y' to everything
[05:10] <redblade> It didn't recognise it so I don't know which file to use
[05:10] <FSCK> fangorious: even Y to abort?
[05:10] <fangorious> FSCK: at least, every time it asks if you want to fix something
[05:10] <AntMaz> how do i configure lilypond-data
[05:10] <Dasnipa`> whats the command to apt-get install from a .deb file thats on the local drive?
[05:10] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Could you have a look at this, sorry? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123187
[05:10] <FSCK> fangorious: ok but last I remember from the 50+ times I never realy got asked to fix anything :(
[05:11] <FSCK> I'll try your method
[05:11] <fangorious> FSCK: when it runs automatically it is run with -a, which tells it to fix everything automatically
[05:11] <corvax> dpkg -i andoffile.deb
[05:12] <corvax> nameof file
[05:12] <FSCK> fangorious: it goes thruogh checks but thats all... I press Ctrl D OR enter shutdown -r now and nothing works... I'll get back to the boot screen and stop at root checking again :(
[05:12] <fangorious> FSCK: but the check it does during boot will fail until you get thru fsck without using -a
[05:12] <FSCK> ok back at the prompt
[05:13] <FSCK> fangorious: I am not told that anything is fixed. I am told either the superblock or the partition table is corrupt... I've gone through this so many times :(
[05:13] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: hmm - my mobo is an older Asus (a7v-something) and it works fine with SATA, ATA or both...
[05:14] <fangorious> FSCK: that sounds like it might be something else from what I was thinking
[05:14] <terribleCabbage> Hrm. :S
[05:14] <FSCK> it sucks I cannot run -p OR -a with fsck to fix this... this is horrible and so upsetting...
[05:14] <redblade> hi. I set up a server, well kind of, but I want to know how to change the site from the default message
[05:14] <vercellone> can someone point me to the proper grub menu.lst entries to boot ubuntu from something other than hd0?
[05:14] <jdumont> if forgot to write down the command to make my ubuntu an edubuntu via a download.  :(  anyone have it?
[05:14] <FSCK> fangorious: I have a love/hate relationship with Ubuntu and right about now, I hate it...
[05:14] <redblade> I'm just not sure where the fiel would be, I'm looking for something with a .htm/l suffix
[05:15] <vercellone> root(hd2,0)/vmlinuz is not cutting it
[05:15] <jdumont> i forgot to write down the command to make my ubuntu an edubuntu via a download.  :(  anyone have it?
[05:15] <fangorious> FSCK: obviously you have a second machine that you're connected with. can you try burning a livecd to boot off of to check the partition table and such
[05:15] <_jason> jdumont: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, perhaps?
[05:15] <jdumont> that was it... thanks _jason.
[05:16] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd nad install cd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:16] <fangorious> redblade: you could try 'locate index.html'
[05:16] <IAmWill> ** and
[05:16] <_jason> redblade: what file?
[05:16] <Swif> hello im trying to install kde on ubuntu I have ubuntu on vmware in xp pro actualy
[05:16] <concept10> Anyone of you guys know how to switch to hardware acceleration in xorg?
[05:16] <fangorious> concept10: change the driver to one that supports it for your card/
[05:16] <FSCK> fangorious: I am using the dapper live now to talk here... I don't know how to test the partition tables and fix them worse comes to worse... This is what I mean. I love Ubuntu but notice small problems aint really small... :(
[05:16] <Madpilot> concept10: what graphics card do you have?
[05:16] <jdumont> so now that i have edubuntu ... is it exactly what I would have if I downloaded the edubuntu .iso?
[05:16] <redblade> well I used apache to set upa  webserver and I want to change the http://localhost page
[05:17] <_jason> redblade: /var/www
[05:17] <IAmWill> ** and
[05:17] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd nad install cd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:17] <Swif> I tryed apt-get install kde but cant find it I tryed apt-get cache search kde nothin I can recognize
[05:17] <concept10> fangorious, I changed back to the original ATI driver that comes to breezy, but when I try to run this game it says its using Mesa
[05:17] <concept10> Madpilot, ATI
[05:17] <_jason> redblade: /var/www/index.html to be more precise
[05:17] <concept10> Madpilot, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M
[05:17] <Swif> how can I install kde on ubuntu??
[05:17] <ubuntu> hi
[05:17] <ubuntu> all
[05:17] <cfh_dev> Swif: Do you want the full kubuntu desktop?
[05:17] <_jason> Swif: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <fangorious> concept10:  were you having problems with the binary driver from Ati?
[05:18] <tinin> !kde
[05:18] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:18] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd nad install cd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:18] <ubuntu> bye
[05:18] <redblade> _jason. they all have .en, .it etc
[05:18] <gangsta> i cant get direct rendering with ati can some one help me
[05:18] <redblade> which one?
[05:18] <concept10> Madpilot, fangorious :  it was working great until I tried to install the ATI fglrx drivers
[05:18] <_jason> redblade: no index.html?
[05:18] <_jason> redblade: or index.php perhaps?
[05:18] <concept10> gangsta, im trying to switch back myself
[05:18] <redblade> I don't think so but there are a lot of file in it
[05:19] <fangorious> concept10: did you use this howto? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[05:19] <Swif> thanx Jason 8-)
[05:19] <_jason> redblade: /var/www, not /var/www/apache2-default.  Just create a /var/www/index.html
[05:19] <fangorious> FSCK: does the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' (substituting the right device for hda) look right?
[05:19] <redblade> oh
[05:19] <gangsta> concept10: the fglrx just wont give me direct rendering :S it goes trought Mesa
[05:20] <OmegaAlpha> gangsta, im having the same prob... the opengl-update ati doesnt work right?
[05:20] <concept10> fangorious, thanks for the link.  I will try it, I just dont see my card supported by the 'fglrx' driver. It worked fine with the default breezy driver
[05:20] <gangsta> OmegaAlpha: i dont have opengl-update
[05:20] <concept10> gangsta, OmegaAlpha Im having the same problem
[05:20] <OmegaAlpha> gangsta.. yep. indirect rendering im tryign to figure that out right now as we speak for the past hour
[05:20] <wastrel> concept10:  did you backup your old xorg.conf ?
[05:20] <fangorious> concept10: well, if the binary driver doesn't support your card, then there might not be much point
[05:20] <wastrel> what's opengl-update ati  ?
[05:21] <Swif> Jason copuldnt find package kubuntu-desktop??
[05:21] <OmegaAlpha> gangsta, yeah i know neither do i
[05:21] <concept10> wastrel, I did, but it didnt work when I switched back
[05:21] <wastrel> concept10:  your driver module may not have been running
[05:21] <_jason> !info kubuntu-desktop
[05:21] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[05:21] <_jason> Swif: have you enabled the main repository?
[05:21] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, its nothing... its the command for another distro not ubuntu.. its the only thing i can find on the net to update gl to turn on rendering
[05:21] <biovore> dose he have /etc/apt/sources.list setup correctly
[05:21] <Swif> Jason it cant find it
[05:21] <fangorious> concept10: maybe you've got some combination of files from both the open source 'ati' driver and Ati's 'fglrx' driver screwing things up
[05:21] <redblade> that's weird _jason
[05:22] <redblade> I can't place files in that folder
[05:22] <_jason> redblade: ?
[05:22] <Swif> how to enable the main repository?
[05:22] <Swif> Jason
[05:22] <_jason> redblade: right, it belongs to root
[05:22] <IAmWill> Does anyone know anything about a simple boot problem for ubuntu?  If not, then it seems like a room full of ignorant linux users... espesially if I am a first time user, and no one is offering support!!
[05:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell Swif about repos
[05:22] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd nad install cd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:22] <Steven_M> ow can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access) The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to run the program as.
[05:22] <wisie> I've gotta ask, I had stuff on my desktop then I restarted and it all seems to be gone, whats up with that? All my firefox settings seem gone also?
[05:23] <fangorious> IAmWill: the ignorant remark is not a good way to motivate volunteers
[05:23] <concept10> fangorious, i did drxx again and let it auto detect, I dont know how to get off this Mesa crap.  I need direct rendering or whatever its called to play my game
[05:23] <redblade> _jason, I would use sudo cp...
[05:23] <redblade> ?
[05:23] <_jason> redblade: personally, I change group ownership to www-data and make myself a member.  Some people move it to their home folder.  I am much of an expert on what is preferred.  Yes, you can just use sudo...
[05:23] <IAmWill> fangorious: ignoring someone in need of help isn't a good way to assist either!  :)
[05:23] <_jason> redblade: that should read ``I am /not/ much of an expert'' :)
[05:24] <redblade> oh lol
[05:24] <wastrel> Steven_M:  su -c  ?
[05:24] <concept10> IAmWill, people in here have various experience with different aspects with Linux and ubuntu, be patient.  If someone doesnt answer your question it means that they might not know
[05:24] <fangorious> IAmWill: what kind of keyboard are you using?
[05:24] <wastrel> concept10:  did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:25] <concept10> wastrel, yeah, I call it drxx for short :)
[05:25] <IAmWill> lol... no one has known the awnser for about 4 hours now.... its a livecd/install boot problem
[05:25] <wastrel> ahh
[05:25] <wastrel> concept10:  ok so then what happened?
[05:25] <concept10> IAmWill, you should try that command
[05:25] <IAmWill> fangorious: its a laptop
[05:25] <concept10> wastrel, I configured it back to original, desktop works fine, trying to get it out of Mesa
[05:26] <william> can someone help me with tomcat on ubuntu 5.10
[05:26] <wastrel> concept10:  what card?
[05:26] <fangorious> IAmWill: what kind of laptop?
[05:26] <IAmWill> fangorious: Compaq v2570
[05:26] <concept10> wastrel, , VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M
[05:26] <fangorious> it
[05:26] <concept10> wastrel, I get this error when I try to run my game: You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[05:27] <redblade> _jason, I moved index.html to /var/www
[05:27] <redblade> is that right?
[05:27] <fangorious> IAmWill: using the x86_64 livecd?
[05:27] <_jason> redblade: try it :)
[05:27] <Swif> Jason think I did it
[05:27] <Swif> there was 2 unselected
[05:27] <redblade> hmm the page is the same
[05:27] <_jason> Swif: see if you can find kubuntu-desktop now
[05:27] <Steven_M> wastrel: when ever I use su it complains that it can't connct to xserver.
[05:27] <IAmWill> fangorious: is that the same as the amd64... ?? or is that a seporate cd?
[05:27] <biovore> IAmWill: you using the 64bit ubuntu?
[05:27] <redblade> It's says "It Work's!"
[05:27] <Swif> universe source and binary right
[05:28] <fangorious> IAmWill: that's the one, x86_64 is AMD's 64 bit instruction set
[05:28] <concept10> wastrel, so im trying to find out what I have to do to turn on hardware acceleration
[05:28] <Swif> ok ima try now
[05:28] <redblade> It was supposed to but I want to change it now
[05:28] <IAmWill> fangorious: okay, then yes
[05:29] <redblade> perhaps I need to tell the server to look somewhere else for th epage?
[05:29] <_jason> redblade: plastebin the output of 'ls /var/www' please
[05:29] <Swif> Jason: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:29] <Swif> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:29] <_jason> Swif: close synaptic
[05:29] <Swif> im in the root@ubuntu/home/admin
[05:29] <Swif> o
[05:29] <redblade> okay
[05:30] <vercellone> mmm k....thanks for nuttin..I figured it out
[05:30] <wisie> so confusing
[05:30] <redblade> OH no...
[05:30] <redblade> I can't remeber where the pastebin is
[05:30] <redblade> I feel so stupid
[05:30] <_jason> redblade: /topic
[05:30] <Swif> Jason this is what I got: root@ubuntu:/home/admin # sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <Swif> Reading Package Lists... Done
[05:30] <Swif> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[05:30] <Swif> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:30] <Swif> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:30] <Swif> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <_jason> Swif: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:30] <Swif> root@ubuntu:/home/admin #
[05:30] <Steven_M> Fangorious: how can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access) The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to run the program as.
[05:30] <redblade> thanks
[05:30] <_jason> Swif: sudo apt-get update
[05:30] <william> i'm getting error
[05:30] <william> The JAVA_HOME environment variable is not defined
[05:30] <william>  when trying to start tomcat
[05:31] <ejofee> how do i make the sun's java default on my ubuntu instead of gcj?
[05:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell ejofee about multijava
[05:32] <fangorious> Steven_M: you could always start a terminal and su to the user, then run the command from there
[05:32] <frank23> ejofee: from memory update-alternative java something... I forget
[05:32] <wisie> can I just ask a simple question to you guys
[05:32] <_jason> wisie: just ask
[05:32] <wastrel> Steven_M:  ahh yes, $DISPLAY and x server access... hmm i dunno :/
[05:32] <ablyss> dont ask to ask
[05:32] <redblade> okay here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8830
[05:32] <Swif> Jason it updated 8-)
[05:32] <fangorious> IAmWill: I'm not finding anything to help, you should probably submit a bug report
[05:32] <MotorCityMadMan> elkuntu, some thing may be wroug /
[05:32] <ejofee> frank23, _jason: thank you
[05:32] <wisie> I was logged into ubuntu before, restarted and now everything seems to of dissapeared, my settings in firefox and what not.. How can I revert back to that?
[05:32] <Swif> now apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should work??
[05:33] <fangorious> IAmWill: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[05:33] <gangsta> concept10: kernel module is loaded, Xorg module is loaded and i still get Mesa
[05:33] <Steven_M> fangorious: it complaints about not being able to connect to the x server
[05:33] <concept10> gangsta, how did you get on mesa?
[05:33] <IAmWill> thanks
[05:33] <Swif> Jason it cant find package
[05:33] <concept10> gangsta, did you try to install the fglrx packages?
[05:33] <fangorious> Steven_M: start a terminal, run 'xhost +', then su, run 'export DISPLAY=:0', then the command
[05:34] <_jason> redblade: that really should be working... what does 'cat /var/www/index.html' show?
[05:34] <frank23> ejofee: its   update-alternatives --config java
[05:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell Swif about easysource
[05:34] <newbuntie> wisie: you were logged into the same account?
[05:34] <Jivenix> how come when i edit a file, i get some file ~file hanging around
[05:34] <_jason> Swif: use that to make a new /etc/apt/sources.list and replace yours
[05:34] <gangsta> yes  i have the fglrx drivers installed but Mesa is used
[05:34] <newbuntie> wisie: er I mean as the same user?
[05:34] <redblade> _Jason, it shows the HTML of my page
[05:34] <concept10> gangsta, what card do you have?
[05:35] <_jason> redblade: maybe it's your browsers cache, try refreshing from network
[05:35] <wisie> I only have one account, unless I was logged into the root or something? Is that possible
[05:35] <gangsta> concept10: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] 
[05:35] <fangorious> redblade: I wasn't watching so this may have been checked already, but have you looked at the httpd.conf file to confirm that /var/www is actually the doc root?
[05:35] <concept10> I see everywhere people explaining how to install the driver, im trying to get back on 'dri'
[05:35] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit dapper running good
[05:35] <redblade> oh... oops
[05:35] <redblade> sorry
[05:35] <_jason> redblade: refresh worked?
[05:36] <fangorious> concept10: what's something quick I can do to confirm that dri is going through hardware?
[05:36] <gangsta> glxinfo
[05:36] <newbuntie> wisi: no, is your old firefox profile still there?
[05:36] <concept10> fangorious, I dont know.  I see it in xorg.conf
[05:37] <gangsta> fangorious: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[05:37] <flodine> well
[05:37] <Swif> Jason I genarated a list now to add I do what? as root do I paste the whole thing?
[05:37] <flodine> 64 bit folks
[05:37] <flodine> anyone
[05:37] <ejofee> frank23: thanks again
[05:37] <frank23> fangorious: im not sure what you're asking  glxinfo | grep direct    if you get direct rendering yes, you have 3d acceleration
[05:37] <_jason> Swif: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, delete the contents, paste the new one
[05:37] <_jason> save
[05:37] <concept10> gangsta, thanks for that because glxinfo | grep dri gave me nothing
[05:37] <gangsta> concept10: yw
[05:37] <Swif> ok thanks 8-)
[05:37] <Steven_M> fangorious: how do you enable it for a specific instead of everyone?
[05:37] <fangorious> gangsta: thanks. i see so many people say they can't get the binary drivers working and realise the only measuring stick I've used is if I can select GL screensavers or not
[05:38] <wastrel> concept10:  it's glxinfo | grep direct
[05:38] <concept10> gangsta, your command gave me direct rendering: No
[05:38] <gangsta> concept10: the same with me
[05:38] <fangorious> Steven_M: well, I don't think xhost is per user, it's per machine. So you can do xhost + localhost to open it to everyone on the local machine
[05:38] <wisie> newbuntie: the weird thing is, the profile is gone, my desktop stuff is gone and things in the trash are gone.. It was the first time i had ever logged in if that makes any sense.. I shutdown properly after finishing useage but now that I have started up it seems to be all gone
[05:38] <concept10> gangsta, okay, lets figure this out, what do we have to do!  (im ready to shoot some people in this game)
[05:39] <fangorious> Steven_M seems I'm wrong, try 'xhost + username'
[05:39] <gangsta> (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled <- but glxinfo gives me direct rendering: No, thats a bit strange
[05:39] <frank23> i think you can do  xhost + to open to everyone
[05:40] <wastrel> concept10:  heh i just broke X on my other computer trying to figure this out :] 
[05:40] <fangorious> frank23: yeah, he wanted to enable just one user
[05:40] <newbuntie> wisi: hm...and you're sure you're logged in as the same user....no idea what could cause that
[05:40] <Jivenix> whats with the file with a ~ next to it when i edit something with gedit?
[05:40] <concept10> wastrel, sorry! go back to orig conf file
[05:40] <wastrel> gangsta:  what does fglrxinfo give you?
[05:40] <Jivenix> !~
[05:40] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jivenix
[05:40] <wastrel> concept10:  no worries ;] 
[05:41] <concept10> gangsta, oh yeah, I saw one way to do it
[05:41] <wisie> Is it possible that i could of been logged into root?
[05:41] <gangsta> wastrel: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.or
[05:41] <concept10> gangsta, someone just changed the driver name and it works, let me find it
[05:41] <wastrel> Jivenix:  that's the working copy,
[05:41] <kasuko> Can anyone help me get dual monitors working with my nvidia graphics card?
[05:41] <Jivenix> how does it go away
[05:41] <ablyss> Jivenix, temp file.. gedit backs up whatever file you save unles you turn off that setting in gedit
[05:41] <iceman> Wish that they would get more applications, games, and plugin's working in 64 bit ...
[05:41] <Jivenix> oh
[05:41] <gangsta> concept10: my driver name is fglrx and that aint the problem
[05:42] <newbuntie> wisi: root is disabled, so no, but go to Administration > users and groups and check if there are any other users on your system
[05:42] <Madpilot> wisie: there is not working root login in Ubuntu, unless you've added one
[05:42] <Steven_M> fangorious: would +localhost be secure, or would it be easy for someone to hack in from the net?
[05:42] <redblade> _jason, fangorious, I'm still unsure what to do.
[05:42] <concept10> gangsta, are you trying to install XGL after you get that working?
[05:43] <redblade> I'm looking for the source file for the page that keeps coming up.
[05:43] <wisie> newbuntie: I'm the only user, how bizarre.. Oh well! Back to installing apache and what not.. Thanks anyway though :) appreciated
[05:43] <redblade> but I have no idea where it is
[05:43] <fangorious> Steven_M: for security it'd probably be better to use xhost + username. but if you don't have any services accepting connections on non-localhost IP addresses, you probably don't have much to worry about
[05:43] <newbuntie> any idea guys what could cause stuff on desktop, mozilla profile and other stuff to just disappear? :)
[05:44] <corvax> new a wife or gf
[05:44] <corvax> deleting them] 
[05:44] <gangsta> concept10: i have Xgl and Compiz installed and it will work if i get my direct rendering back ;)
[05:44] <fangorious> redblade: apache?
[05:44] <frank23> newbuntie: using a live cd :)
[05:44] <kasuko> Anyone know anything about twinview and nvidia cards?
[05:44] <wisie> it's not a live cd, installed on hardrive :)
[05:44] <corvax> cause you lert yourself logged in
[05:44] <corvax> ?
[05:44] <concept10> gangsta, oh okay.  youre already on dapper?
[05:44] <ablyss> newbuntie, logging in as a different user
[05:44] <gangsta> concept10: yes
[05:44] <iceman> it's still stinks that Loki games went goodbye ...
[05:45] <redblade> all the files in there are .conf or .types
[05:45] <newbuntie> wisi: this only happened once? And all you did was shut down and rebooted?
[05:45] <fangorious> redblade: in where?
[05:45] <redblade> /etc/apache/
[05:45] <wisie> yep only once
[05:45] <fangorious> redblade: is there an /etc/apache/httpd.conf?
[05:45] <redblade> yep
[05:46] <_jason> redblade: oh you aren't use apache2?  mine is setup in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default for apache2 if that helps
[05:46] <Swif> Jason copy from # Ubuntu community supported packages (sources,??
[05:46] <fangorious> redblade: can you grep for \/var\/www
[05:46] <concept10> gangsta, this graphics drivers and all of the config is crazy
[05:46] <Swif> or the whole thing
[05:46] <redblade> I have apache2 aswell
[05:46] <wastrel> concept10:  ok this is my xorg.conf   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8831     i do have dri working - hope it helps ;] 
[05:46] <_jason> Swif: just hit generate and copy the whole thing it gives you (after checking the stuff you want)
[05:46] <Swif> I dont want to mess it up lol
[05:46] <redblade> long story short - sloppy setup
[05:47] <Swif> replace all of it ok
[05:47] <_jason> redblade: apache2 would have /etc/apache2
[05:47] <newbuntie> wisie: no idea what could cause that if it isn't reapeating, sry
[05:47] <TestDummy> Hey um, quick question, what WM do you think would work best for an old Celeron box?
[05:47] <TestDummy> Gnome is just killing it =(
[05:47] <redblade> yeah I have that too
[05:47] <wisie> brb guys.
[05:47] <Jivenix> how do i make ndiswrapper start up when ubuntu starts
[05:47] <redblade> /etc/apache2
[05:47] <Madpilot> TestDummy: XFCE?
[05:47] <fangorious> TestDummy: xfce should be decent if memory is low
[05:47] <concept10> wastrel, im going to try it. thanks
[05:47] <redblade> as well as etc/apache
[05:47] <TestDummy> Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[05:47] <_jason> TestDummy: try xubuntu and if it won't handle it go with one of the boxes like fluxbox
[05:47] <TestDummy> It has 256MB in it.
[05:47] <TestDummy> But the processor is just bleh..
[05:48] <fangorious> redblade: which one is running and listening on port 80?
[05:48] <corvax> what speed celeron
[05:48] <TestDummy> 400MHz, I can feel the burn.
[05:48] <Swif> Jason do I replace all this? deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted
[05:48] <Swif> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted
[05:48] <Swif> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted
[05:48] <redblade> ummm.
[05:48] <Jivenix> how do i make ndiswrapper start up when ubuntu starts
[05:48] <Swif> at the top
[05:48] <_jason> Swif: ok, hold on you are using warty?
[05:48] <corvax> dud i was runing a terminal server from a p2 450
[05:48] <redblade> 2 I think
[05:48] <fangorious> TestDummy: I'd go with xfce. some people prefer fluxbox or blackbox
[05:48] <Swif> yup
[05:48] <Jivenix> !startup
[05:48] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jivenix
[05:48] <corvax> with 384 mb
[05:48] <TestDummy> Yeah, that's what I was thinking, although I haven't messed with it much lately.
[05:48] <_jason> Swif: yes you can replace everything, pastebin when you are done so that I can look it over if you want
[05:48] <Swif> thanx Jason 8-)
[05:48] <redblade> yeah I'm fairly certain it's 1
[05:48] <TestDummy> Guess it's worth a shot, Gnome is just too laggy on it.
[05:48] <fangorious> redblade: have you checked the httpd.conf in /etc/apache2 for the doc root setting?
[05:48] <redblade> sorry 2
[05:48] <corvax> edubuntu
[05:49] <wastrel> i used to really like windowmaker
[05:49] <redblade> I thought that was the one I haad open
[05:49] <_jason> redblade: are you sure apache1 isn't the one serving up the page maybe?
[05:49] <redblade> this is confusing
[05:49] <TestDummy> Anyways, yeah. Just needed a quick consensus, seeing how Gnome just isn't working out.
[05:49] <TestDummy> Thanks. :P
[05:49] <redblade> no it's not apache 1, becaus eI installed this of a cd and it says it is meant to have a page with a message
[05:50] <fangorious> redblade: i may have missed it, but all I've seen you talk about editing is the index.html page.
[05:50] <newbuntie> are there any good download managers in the repos?
[05:50] <_jason> redblade: oh, you didn't use apache from the repositories?
[05:50] <redblade> no
[05:50] <concept10> wastrel, i wonder what the 'i2c' module is for
[05:50] <redblade> I have apache 2.2.0
[05:50] <newbuntie> or any download managers for linux at all?
[05:50] <Swif> Jason were to upload it?
[05:50] <_jason> redblade: check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled to see what those files say
[05:50] <_jason> Swif: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:50] <Knowledge_> anyone with an answer... let's say I have 2 USB Mice plugged into my computer...what command (linux) would I use to disable one of them so the other one would only work?
[05:50] <Swif> can I send you in pm?
[05:51] <Swif> o
[05:51] <wastrel> concept10:  i believe it's a usb mouse thingy
[05:51] <redblade> DocumentRoot /var/www/, _jason
[05:51] <newbuntie> sociopath, no download managers for linux? I need something that would split the download into multiple sessions
[05:51] <tomkelleher> hey guys, quick question. If I'm using a AMD Turion 64 procesor should I use the x86,  or 64-bit version of Ubuntu
[05:51] <wastrel> concept10:  no i'm wrong, it's a lmsensors thing
[05:52] <concept10> wastrel, oh, I know its some type of communications protocol for chips, cant remember, anyways, thats the only difference
[05:52] <newbuntie> sry sociopath, nick completions is on
[05:52] <morphix> why have 2 mice?
[05:52] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: you can use either one
[05:52] <fangorious> well, my battery is about to die.
[05:52] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: keep in mind that some software is only available as a 32-bit binary and as such won't work in a 64-bit system without some trickery
[05:52] <corvax> yeah my batt was low had to plug in
[05:53] <tomkelleher> agrajag: would I get better profromance from the 64-bit? if so will it be better to just go with the 64 because of the proformace and worrie about the apps later or use the 32?
[05:53] <redblade> _jason? isn't that where it's meant to be?
[05:53] <newbuntie> let me try again, anyone know anything about download managers for linux, that could split a single download into multiple downloads using seperate connections?
[05:53] <Swif> Jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8832
[05:53] <wastrel> newbuntie:  gnutella?
[05:53] <_jason> redblade: yes, make a new file called testing.html in /var/www, and see if localhost/testing.html shows up in your browser
[05:53] <concept10> wastrel, gangsta: I wonder do they have ATI prop drivers that work with the older chipsets
[05:54] <newbuntie> wastrel: isn't that p2p? I'm talking about something that would work with firefox, click on a link and it takes over the download
[05:54] <_jason> Swif: you said warty right?
[05:54] <wastrel> concept10:  i dunno - i just use the provided stuff ... got both cards working
[05:54] <Swif> ya
[05:54] <_jason> Swif: you know there have been two versions since then?
[05:54] <Swif> should I put the top back in?
[05:54] <gangsta> concept10: i dont know but i know that my card is supported
[05:54] <wastrel> newbuntie:  you're multiplexing separate network connections?
[05:54] <Swif> I have backup lol
[05:54] <dooglus> newbuntie: why would you want to do such a thing?
[05:55] <Knowledge_> Anyone konw my problem?
[05:55] <Snake__> Hey guys, is flight 4 out yet?
[05:55] <tomkelleher> yep
[05:55] <Snake__> tomkelleher: to me?
[05:55] <tomkelleher> yea
[05:55] <Snake__> alrighjt
[05:55] <Snake__> thanks
[05:55] <tomkelleher> np
[05:55] <concept10> wastrel, yeah, the provided stuff worked for me at first (since Warty) did you just do a reconfigure to get back on DRI?
[05:56] <wastrel> concept10:  i took away my xorg.conf and used d-r x-x...
[05:56] <redblade> _jason, it doesn't work
[05:56] <gangsta> damn ati drivers
[05:56] <_jason> Swif: use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8833
[05:56] <tomkelleher> does anybody know if I will get the proper resolution with my vid card? its the ati radeon xpress 200m running at 1280 by 800, widescreen
[05:56] <redblade> I need to find out where http://localhost is loading from
[05:56] <newbuntie> wastrel, dooglus: it speeds up downloads, I have 4mbit broadband but often get 150 kB from servers, splitting into multiple connections increases it to the full 500kB
[05:56] <concept10> wastrel, you renamed or deleted the conf?
[05:57] <unix_infidel> hey guys, this line in sudoers isnt working - my_username ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set
[05:57] <_jason> redblade: I don't know then, I'd suggest you use the one from the repositories.  grep for the phrase that shows up on that page
[05:57] <redblade> okay
[05:57] <primoturbo> Is there anyway to mask the hostname? for example my current one is primo@HSE-Toronto-ppp187067.sympatico.ca
[05:57] <primoturbo> on freenode
[05:57] <concept10> I dont understand this question in d-r-x-x: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[05:57] <jdumont> DARNIT... I forgot to write down the command to install edubuntu... sudo apt -- get edubuntu-desktop?  was that it?
[05:57] <redblade> what is the syntax for grep?
[05:57] <unix_infidel> anyone have any ideas, i mean i have all the correct syntax and i used visudo proper and right....but i'm still prompted for a password.
[05:57] <redblade> sudo grep "It works!"
[05:57] <redblade> ?
[05:58] <Swif> Jason ) sources.list ) on top or no?
[05:58] <_jason> jdumont: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, perhaps?
[05:58] <_jason> Swif: nope
[05:58] <jdumont> thanks AGAIN jason
[05:58] <Swif> o
[05:58] <concept10> crippity crap crap crap I want my direct rendering back
[05:58] <jdumont> now wheres my palm pilot
[05:58] <_jason> jdumont: write it down this time :)
[05:58] <jdumont> done.
[05:59] <corvax> jd  make a file calle commands or somthing and keep allthe  useful ones in there
[05:59] <jdumont> i would but i plan on formatting and reinstalling a few times
[05:59] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[05:59] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get valgrind ?
[06:00] <jdumont> hmmm a blog perhaps?
[06:00] <corvax> lol save t to cd or floppy
[06:00] <CaptainMorgan> dah.. syn got it
[06:00] <wastrel> concept10:  renamed
[06:00] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. Why does php5 depend on apache2-mpm-prefork? Does that mean that php5 is compiled with non-threading in mind? :/
[06:00] <concept10> gangsta, did you see this: Note that support for DRI must also exist in the    
[06:00] <concept10>   kernel, the video card, and the installed version of the Mesa libraries   
[06:00] <concept10>   for hardware-accelerated 3D operations using DRI to work.  Otherwise,     
[06:00] <concept10>   the server falls back to software rendering.
[06:00] <jdumont> doh! now my stylus is gone
[06:00] <concept10> whoops
[06:00] <Swif> Jason when I saved a backup I changed the location
[06:00] <Swif> and took out a .
[06:00] <Swif> were I save it?
[06:01] <SebastianM> configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.8.5    atk >= 1.0.1    pango >= 1.9.0    cairo >= 0.9.2) were not met.
[06:01] <SebastianM> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[06:01] <SebastianM> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:01] <SebastianM> I dont get it?
[06:01] <SebastianM> I got all those :S
[06:01] <Madpilot> SebastianM: what're you trying to do?
[06:01] <wastrel> SebastianM:  you need the dev packages
[06:01] <SebastianM> hmm..
[06:01] <Swif> Jason how to save it?
[06:01] <SebastianM> trying to install air snort 8-)...
[06:01] <unix_infidel> ok fine a better question, for some reason my cpufreqd daemon keeps on switching governors on its own like a bloody fool.
[06:01] <unix_infidel> any ubuntu reason for that/
[06:01] <Swif> I dont even see save on top menu
[06:01] <corvax> lmao swif
[06:02] <corvax> what are you in vi?
[06:02] <corvax> nano?
[06:02] <unix_infidel> i've tried setting proper schemes in kcontrol, i'd like to knnow how to disable them, but in the end i'd like to use the scripts i have setup on startup.
[06:02] <SebastianM> cd ..
[06:02] <SebastianM> oops
[06:02] <redblade> _jason, thanks for your time, I'm going to stick at this and see if I can't solve it
[06:02] <Madpilot> SebastianM: airsnort is in the Universe repo - just get it from there, Synaptic or apt-get will handle the depends
[06:02] <Swif> /root/sourceslisttest(modified)-gedit
[06:03] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  show me the line in your sudoers file
[06:03] <SebastianM> Madpilot, I've read a million explainations, but I still don't get the synaptic/atp-thing
[06:03] <SebastianM> I get the search-function
[06:03] <SebastianM> but not how you add your own links, or what you should call it
[06:03] <unix_infidel> my_username ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set
[06:03] <unix_infidel> wastrel: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[06:03] <Swif> save in file system>'
[06:04] <Swif> sources.list
[06:04] <Swif> as*
[06:04] <IdleOne> SebastianM:  in a terminal window type sudo apt-get install airsnort
[06:04] <Swif> yes right>
[06:04] <SebastianM> ah!
[06:04] <Swif> ?
[06:04] <Madpilot> SebastianM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:04] <IdleOne> and read that howto
[06:05] <Madpilot> SebastianM: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:05] <Swif> thats correct?
[06:05] <Swif> im in warthog
[06:05] <lamb> can anyone recommend fonts that look like Mac OS ones??
[06:05] <corvax> id get breezy if ya can
[06:06] <corvax> dapper will be out soon
[06:06] <cramop> hi, I know this may not be the exact place to ask but, I am planning to buy a mini dv camcorder with firewire output. Will I be abe to copy the whole movie as a file? or will I have to copy it in analog mode?
[06:06] <SebastianM> Madpilot, it says: "E: Couldn't find airsnort package" (translated from swedish)
[06:07] <IdleOne> SebastianM: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:07] <IdleOne> read that
[06:07] <IdleOne> and add the repos
[06:07] <Swif> when I did the apt-get update I got an error is this because I needed to create a new sources.list save it in file system because im in warthog ubuntu? (gedit:4689): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:07] <Swif> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:07] <Swif> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/root/.gnome2/gedit-metadata.xml"
[06:07] <SebastianM> sounds good, sounds good
[06:07] <Swif> that was at the bottom
[06:07] <_jason> Swif: what command caused that?  and please don't paste here
[06:07] <Swif> see I turned on that universe thing and I want to install kde on ubuntu
[06:08] <Swif> sorry
[06:08] <corvax> its in the univers
[06:08] <Jivenix> is there a quick way to tile the windows on the desktop
[06:08] <Swif> apt-get update did
[06:08] <concept10> How do I restart X? will ctrl-alt-backspace do it?
[06:08] <Madpilot> SebastianM: you don't have Universe enabled, then
[06:08] <martman> i reconfigured the xorg package so i could run at higer resoltuons. i see the changes in my config file but im still at 1024 with no higher choices in the display system settings window
[06:08] <Swif> sudo apt-get update*
[06:08] <corvax> airsonort is in universe
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Jivenix,  not in KDE or gnome - that ive seen.. sadly.
[06:08] <martman> anyone know how i can get something higher?
[06:08] <Jivenix> :\
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Jivenix,  some other window managers have that feature
[06:08] <Madpilot> SebastianM: nevermind, IdleOne beat me to it! :P
[06:08] <wastrel> concept10:  yes
[06:08] <Jivenix> maybe i will write it
[06:08] <_jason> Swif: you got gedit warning with apt-get update?  can you pastebin what your /etc/apt/sources.list looks like now?
[06:08] <SebastianM> :D
[06:08] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: oh, the 64-bit version's a bit faster, go with that if you don't mind jumping through hoops to get stuff like Flash working
[06:09] <SebastianM> it's amazing how helpful everyone is...
[06:09] <SebastianM> =)
[06:09] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, it's called cooperation :)
[06:09] <`JD> Okay, I tried to fix the res of unbuntu but in ended up not working at. I have to get it back to the settings it came with. I guy was showing me how and it had somehitng to do with the xorg.conf file but I got my internet cut off. Help me!
[06:09] <tomkelleher> Agrajag: how much of a hoop?
[06:09] <IdleOne> ubuntulog: for the ppl by the ppl ()
[06:09] <IdleOne> oops
[06:09] <SebastianM> elkbuntu :D
[06:09] <unix_infidel> anyone with ideas about the sudo issue?
[06:09] <Jivenix> is there a way to send an instant message to someone who is ssh'd in
[06:09] <wastrel> `JD:  did you save a copy of your original working xorg.conf?
[06:10] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: I ended up installing a second copy of ubuntu in a chroot so I could run a 32-bit version of firefox
[06:10] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  sorry that looks like good syntax to me... :] 
[06:10] <elkbuntu> tomkelleher, one that is on fire with swirling sharks in pools on the other side :)
[06:10] <digitaljames> how do I test my sound card hardware. I'm on 5.04
[06:10] <unix_infidel> wastrel: great so i've done everything right, its just working.
[06:10] <primoturbo> hey guys what does umask=0222 in fstab mean?
[06:10] <`JD> Its on the paste.unbuntu.nl.org me thinks
[06:11] <AntMaz> ok this is pissing me off i have no idea what i did but recently no matter what pakage i try to install i always have a lilypond error
[06:11] <primoturbo> can u give me a line for fstab that will mount hda1 under a ntfs file system and only read access (don't want to mess up my windows xp)
[06:11] <_jason> primoturbo: it means subtract 222 from 777 and get 555, so you end up with 555 permissions
[06:11] <primoturbo> is it read only?
[06:11] <primoturbo> /dev/hda1 	/mnt/Windows	ntfs umask=0222 	0 	0
[06:11] <AntMaz> anyone know what to do
[06:11] <primoturbo> will that give me read only access?
[06:12] <_jason> primoturbo: yes
[06:12] <Swif> Jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8834
[06:12] <primoturbo> thank you
[06:12] <`JD> but I cant find it. Its unedr my name JD on pastebin >:(
[06:12] <Swif> I changed the download location and the name I need to know how its saved
[06:12] <AntMaz> even when i tried to update lillypond it messed up
[06:12] <AntMaz> ok this is pissing me off i have no idea what i did but recently no matter what pakage i try to install i always have a lilypond error
[06:12] <Swif> I cahnged it back to sources.list and saved it on filesystem
[06:12] <Swif> is that correct or no?
[06:12] <jdumont> is there an edubuntu wiki or something else?  everyones sleeping in the #edubuntu channel.
[06:13] <`JD> I found the original. What do I do with it?
[06:13] <whiter> primoturbo, i would just back up then format to ext3
[06:13] <whiter> cause ntfs is read only
[06:13] <wisie> is the bot up, I got a great little link off him before but I lost it
[06:13] <wastrel> `JD:  stick it in a file and copy it over to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <whiter> not sure why...
[06:13] <_jason> Swif: I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.  You should just do 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and then delete everything in there.  Then copy and paste the new one there.  Then press save and then exit.
[06:13] <IdleOne> +
[06:13] <IdleOne> *+-++++++++++
[06:13] <Madpilot> wisie: the bot's running - what was the link on
[06:13] <Madpilot> ?
[06:13] <`JD> Where would the config file be on the HD?
[06:13] <corvax> umask sets the file mode creation mask of the invoking process to the given mode. You can specify the mode in any of the formats recognized by chmod; see chmod for more information.
[06:13] <Jivenix> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <primoturbo> I need my xp for certain things like CS:S too slow under wine
[06:14] <IdleOne> ++++/mm=-pp00*--******************************** .[] [
[06:14] <AntMaz> ubutu: tell antmaz about lilypond
[06:14] <primoturbo> quick question does mnt folder exist or did I just make it?
[06:14] <wisie> Madpilot: It was something to do with universals and I also got a great little guide on setting up apache and other things, not sure if it was from here though
[06:14] <IdleOne> p=pp] ] [p] [;[pp] 
[06:14] <IdleOne> ''
[06:14] <AntMaz> didnt work
[06:14] <IdleOne> '
[06:14] <AntMaz> anyone know about this error
[06:14] <primoturbo> by default does /mnt/ exist or did I make it?
[06:14] <AntMaz> : /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond_2.6.3-9~breezy1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> !lilypond
[06:15] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:15] <`JD> Where is xorg.conf on the Hard drive?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> wtf is Lilypond? thats twice today ive seen it mentioned.
[06:15] <wastrel> `JD:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:15] <primoturbo> is it safe to delete /mnt/ folder?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> `JD,  /etc/X11/
[06:15] <Madpilot> !tell wisie about lamp
[06:15] <primoturbo> I just realized I want windows mount in media
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> `JD,  BACK IT up  - befor ya edit it.
[06:15] <wisie> thanks madpilot, looks about right
[06:15] <SebastianM> Madpilot, elkbuntu, IdleOne: thanks! air snort works now! :D
[06:15] <primoturbo> in /media/Windows
[06:16] <Madpilot> wisie: as for the others - not sure what you mean by "universals"
[06:16] <primoturbo> is it okay to delete /mnt/Windows and /mnt/ nothing in there
[06:16] <Bung> i just ran this, $ sudo apt-get install azureus, and it says its not available...
[06:16] <primoturbo> I have unmounted Windows ofcourse
[06:16] <Madpilot> !azureus
[06:16] <ubotu> hmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:16] <`JD> I'm on XP at the moment. How could I copy and paste the original staying on xp right now?
[06:16] <Madpilot> Bung: see the bot above ^^^
[06:16] <Bung> thanks
[06:16] <AntMaz> anyone know about lilypond
[06:16] <wisie> !torrentflux
[06:16] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wisie
[06:16] <wisie> damn
[06:17] <Swif> Jason:          http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8835
[06:17] <Swif> should I add the top like that or no?
[06:17] <IdleOne> SebastianM:  yw
[06:17] <SebastianM> or at least, it's installed =)
[06:17] <Swif> I got back to it lol
[06:17] <_jason> Swif: do you use the cdrom?
[06:17] <Swif> yes
[06:17] <AntMaz> i have no idea what i did but recently no matter what pakage i try to install i always have a lilypond error
[06:18] <_jason> Swif: then just delete lines 4 and 5.  Those are in there
[06:18] <Swif> I have a dvdrewriter dual layer
[06:18] <`JD> Where?!
[06:18] <_jason> Swif: I mean, do you use the ubuntu cd as a repository?
[06:18] <unix_infidel> lol, seriously so no one can fix sudoers....
[06:18] <unix_infidel> superman ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set -f
[06:18] <unix_infidel> that's the line i currently have.
[06:18] <AntMaz> _jason: do you know anything about this lilypond thing
[06:18] <tim_> when i try to compile this kernel it errors out, how to i find out where it is broke
[06:19] <`JD> I know its /etc/X11 but how can i access it from my other boot, WinXP?
[06:19] <_jason> unix_infidel: you probably need to logout and back in or something if that's right and you can't figure out why it doesn't work
[06:19] <_jason> AntMaz: nope
[06:19] <corvax> if your gonna use warty  you might want to add backports
[06:19] <Swif> Jason I dont understand repository lol
[06:19] <Swif> I have ubuntu on vmware in xp pro
[06:19] <_jason> Swif: do you use ubuntu with the ubuntu cd rom in the cd to install stuff?
[06:19] <Swif> I did
[06:19] <corvax> repository  is a central location where all applications called packages are kept
[06:19] <corvax> and are dowloaded from
[06:19] <AntMaz> Anyone know About installing packages and always getting an error about lilypond
[06:20] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  i don't know if you specify command flags in sudoers
[06:20] <Swif> I duddo if it pulls from the cd though
[06:20] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  try removing the -f
[06:20] <Swif> dunno*
[06:20] <corvax> in simplified terms
[06:20] <unix_infidel> _jason: i've logged out a couple times and shutdown and wha tnot.
[06:20] <unix_infidel> wastrel: i've tried it with and without mate.
[06:20] <Swif> its basicly default
[06:20] <_jason> Swif: if you use it, leave line1.  If you don't use it, delete it
[06:20] <Swif> besides me turning on universe thing
[06:20] <primoturbo> Quick question where is the grub file located so I can change the boot wait time
[06:20] <corvax> swif you have broadband?
[06:20] <Swif> if I dunno leave it? lol
[06:20] <_jason> Swif: let me go check if kubuntu-desktop existed in warty
[06:20] <Swif> cant hurt right
[06:21] <`JD> can anyone help I'm kinda in  ahurry
[06:21] <corvax> is this a desktop?
[06:21] <martman> i reconfigured xorg so i could try and get some higher resoltuons, i can see the chnages in the config file to but im still running at 1024 and i dont have any higher choices in display system settings
[06:21] <Swif> ok thanx Jason 8-)
[06:21] <martman> i restart after too
[06:21] <_jason> Swif: nope, no kubuntu-desktop in warty
[06:21] <corvax> if its a desktop on broadband id comment out the cd
[06:21] <Swif> so how I install kde?
[06:21] <_jason> Swif: is upgrading not feasible?
[06:21] <Swif> do I need to download somethin?
[06:21] <primoturbo> Guys where is the grub configuration file located, I need to edit the wait time before boot from 10 seconds to like 5
[06:21] <Swif> upgrading to??
[06:22] <_jason> Swif: hoary and then breezy
[06:22] <primoturbo> I've done it a million times just dont recall the file name or location
[06:22] <Swif> getting seperate kubuntu?
[06:22] <crouton> holy smokes, 12 hours of work has come to fruition.
[06:22] <tim_> is there a site that has kernel how to's
[06:22] <corvax> jason lol he might as well redownload and iso
[06:22] <Swif> do I just download seperate versions?
[06:22] <`JD> God dammit
[06:22] <Swif> on xp?
[06:22] <crouton> tim_: www.tldp.org ?
[06:22] <corvax> too much work for someone so new
[06:22] <_jason> Swif: you can just use apt-get to update
[06:22] <Swif> or can I do it in ubuntu
[06:22] <Swif> apt-get hoary?
[06:23] <skon> If a compiler tells me I need to have the libglade-2.0 libraries, what specifically should I install on my system? They'res a ton of glade stuff in the apt-cache...
[06:23] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  i have this line in my /etc/sudoers & can run  sudo ls  without a password:   wastrel ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/ls
[06:23] <_jason> anyone know of issues with a direct warty > breezy upgrade?
[06:23] <wastrel> `JD:  what's the problem?
[06:23] <crouton> _jason: There were a couple threads on the forum back when the switchover occurred
[06:23] <unix_infidel> wastrel: b/c you have permissions on ls you fool.
[06:23] <unix_infidel> you could run it even if you didnt.
[06:23] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to turn direct rendering on a graphics card?
[06:23] <corvax> i hadi had some issues going from hoary to breezy
[06:24] <corvax> not too bad though
[06:24] <_jason> Swif: ok well do this first https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, and then after that is done... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:24] <Swif> apt-get hoary?? is that correct
[06:24] <skon> swif - sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:24] <`JD> Wastrel: I wish to access the xorg.conf file right now. I'm currently booted in WindowsXP. I need to change the file back to its original state.
[06:24] <OmegaAlpha> swif do a search for it 'apt-cache search hoary'
[06:24] <iceman> Shoot I need one good Linux 3d FPS game ...
[06:24] <corvax>  you have to  do dist upgrade
[06:24] <corvax> after you change your sources
[06:24] <wastrel> `JD: sorry i don't know anything about windows :/
[06:24] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  what command do you suggest i use to test
[06:25] <`JD> I just want to access the file.
[06:25] <skon> If a compiler tells me I need to have the libglade-2.0 libraries, what specifically should I install on my system? They'res a ton of glade stuff in the apt-cache...
[06:25] <goof> i've got an odd problem...if my motherboard's network support is enabled, my Xwindows will not start properly. However, if it is disabled, starts fine completely. (the same result with network enabled and no cable plugged in)
[06:25] <`JD> I need to get to it.
[06:25] <tomkelleher> ok guys problem, I just tried to install breezy on my laptop and it didn't work
[06:25] <wastrel> `JD:  i don't think windows xp can access linux drives
[06:25] <mikeo1> my Ywindows doesnt work
[06:25] <mikeo1> i think its broken
[06:25] <damneinstein> tomkelleher what is the problem you are having?
[06:25] <yuri_> hi guys, I need some advice. can someone suggest a good cd-ripping program that will let me use lame 3.9. I'm looking for something like "Exact Audio Copy" on win.
[06:25] <mikeo1> there are ext3 drivers
[06:25] <corvax> define didnt work
[06:25] <mikeo1> for windows
[06:25] <newbuntie> unix_infidel: he could run ls but it wouldn't list directories he doesn't have read permissions on, right?
[06:25] <jdumont> as i said earlier... i did the sudo apt-get edubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get edubuntu-server.  how do i start the terminal server?  thanks and goodnight.
[06:25] <_jason> Swif: that will take a ``while''
[06:26] <corvax> mike ext2 yes
[06:26] <`JD> Then how could I get it back to its orignial state. ubuntu dosent even fully work now. It just goes strait to a dos looking terminal. Thats it.
[06:26] <unix_infidel> newbuntie: if he didnt have read permissions on them sure.
[06:26] <corvax> no ext3 that i know of
[06:26] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: I put the CD in the drive, booted up and hit enter to begin install and everything seemed to just stop
[06:26] <crouton> goof: what mobo?
[06:26] <jdumont> cuz even though i did sudo apt-get edubuntu-server... everything looks the same.
[06:26] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: did you check the integrity of the cd-rom?
[06:26] <wastrel> `JD:  you can make the changes from the terminal
[06:26] <mikeo1> http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html :p
[06:26] <mikeo1> that one does ext2 and 3 i think
[06:26] <Madpilot> yuri_: k3b & gnomebaker both do CD duplicating
[06:26] <goof> crouton: its an ASUS P5GLPL--Intel P4 chipset
[06:26] <wastrel> `JD:  you don't have another computer?
[06:27] <crouton> tomkelleher: You wouldn't happen to have an ASUS mobo, would you?
[06:27] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: it should work, it's a pre made CD I had sent to me
[06:27] <yuri_> k3b?
[06:27] <Swif> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade??
[06:27] <Madpilot> !info k3b
[06:27] <ubotu> k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3658 kB, Installed size: 7880 kB
[06:27] <wastrel> `JD:  what did you use to change the xorg.conf file originally?
[06:27] <Swif> I can do that now?
[06:27] <`JD> Wastrel: Its on this computer.
[06:27] <Swif> lol
[06:27] <tomkelleher> crouton: um I dont think so, I dont even know what it is
[06:27] <crouton> goof: can you still use the virtual terminals if the network is enabled, cable is in, and you load X?
[06:27] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: it's always better to check integrity anyhow
[06:27] <_jason> Swif: did you read those links?
[06:27] <goof> crouton: I have a nVidia 6600 PCI Express GFX card, but the change that causes the XWindows problem is definitely the onboard LAN
[06:27] <corvax> tom not really
[06:27] <Madpilot> Swif: if you read the two wiki URLs you were given, they'll explain the upgrading process...
[06:27] <Swif> I have them saved
[06:27] <`JD> Wastrel: I was on ubuntu, changing the resolution settings. It screwed up.
[06:27] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: and how should I do that
[06:27] <Swif> ok
[06:28] <IdleOne> `JD:  at the promtp try locate filename
[06:28] <_jason> Swif: they only work if you read them :)
[06:28] <goof> crouton: no, it does not work, if cable is in or out
[06:28] <`JD> I have found it.
[06:28] <`JD> I want to replace it.
[06:28] <IdleOne> ok sudo nano filename
[06:28] <crouton> goof: OK. You disable the onboard NIC via BIOS?
[06:28] <Swif> >_< I got to read ok lol
[06:28] <goof> crouton: yes exactly
[06:28] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: reboot your computer with the cd-rom in the drive and type "linux mediacheck"
[06:28] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  it works even when i don't have permission to run the executable
[06:28] <`JD> I want to paste the orginal code for the config file.
[06:28] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: then follow the prompt
[06:28] <Swif> I saved both on notepad on desktop with new code lol 8-)
[06:28] <yuri_> Madpilot: does k3b support mp3 encoding?
[06:29] <corvax> they windows users HATE reading
[06:29] <corvax> lol
[06:29] <tomkelleher> ok
[06:29] <wastrel> `JD:  what did you use?  there may ahve been an automatic backup made
[06:29] <Madpilot> yuri_: I think it can, yeah. I never use mp3 myself
[06:29] <jdumont> HAR! Back to the wiki !  grumblegrumblegrumble
[06:29] <`JD> I used terminal.
[06:29] <corvax> they are taught to just click next nextnext
[06:29] <h0me5k1n> lol corvax
[06:29] <Madpilot> yuri_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[06:29] <corvax> no matter what it says
[06:29] <yuri_> thanks!
[06:29] <wastrel> `JD:  do you know what command you used?
[06:29] <unix_infidel> wastrel: dont have permissions to run ls?
[06:29] <corvax> linux foreces you to learn
[06:29] <corvax> forces even
[06:29] <unix_infidel> you mean you changed the perms on the ls?
[06:29] <unix_infidel> LOL
[06:30] <`JD> The one to open xorg.conf
[06:30] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  sudo cp /bin/ls /bin/lsls; sudo chmod 700 /bin/lsls
[06:30] <unix_infidel> wastrel: that's all fine and well...i can get it to work...
[06:30] <`JD> I opened up xprg.conf > pasted the new stuff I wanted > Saved it > Rebooted and it died.
[06:30] <unix_infidel> but for some reason i cant get it to work without it prompting me for a password.
[06:30] <unix_infidel> and i have the NOPASSWD: tag enabled.
[06:31] <unix_infidel> erm, option*
[06:31] <Swif> I replaced it and its messed up :|
[06:31] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  wastrel ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/lsls
[06:31] <wastrel>    works for me :]   sorry i dunno otherwise...
[06:31] <Swif> im putting the original back
[06:31] <Swif> (0_o) lol
[06:32] <corvax> swif you have a broadband connection?
[06:32] <goof> crouton?
[06:32] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  i think the parser reads the lines in the order they appear in the file
[06:32] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  maybe put the NOPASSWD line at the bottom?
[06:32] <unix_infidel> wastrel: put it at the BOTTOM?
[06:32] <Swif> yes
[06:32] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  yes that way it won't get overridden by later rules?
[06:33] <Swif> whats the path again??
[06:33] <corvax> just download either breezy (stable)  or dapper flight release4 (unstable)
[06:33] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  just brainstorming
[06:33] <corvax> and install them
[06:33] <Madpilot> Swif: path to what?
[06:33] <Swif> sources.list
[06:33] <Swif> ?
[06:33] <corvax> and you will be better off
[06:33] <`JD> Ah jeez, Does anyone know how to do this or must I reinstall ubuntu?
[06:33] <Swif> I have warthog ubuntu
[06:33] <hedjak> NOPASSWD goes on the particular line.  And you can see what sudo will permit with sudo -l
[06:33] <Madpilot> Swif: etc/apt/sources.list - but this should be in those howto pages you've been given...
[06:33] <corvax> sources .list is  etc/apt
[06:33] <unix_infidel> wastrel: ahhh, great.
[06:34] <unix_infidel> you were right, it must've gotten overwriddedn by some other line in sudoers.
[06:34] <wastrel> rawk
[06:34] <IdleOne> hehe
[06:35] <tomkelleher> damneinstien: yea didnt work
[06:35] <corvax> hehe
[06:35] <concept10> gangsta, have you tried this: grep "Direct rendering" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:35] <wastrel> `JD:  yes i think you're going to need to recreate the file from the original copy on pastebin
[06:35] <concept10> gangsta, it gives me enabled
[06:36] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: yea didnt work
[06:36] <wastrel> `JD:  hmm do you have a floppy drive & a floppy disk?
[06:36] <`JD> wastrel: I know! But how?!
[06:36] <`JD> I dont have a floppy drive :\
[06:36] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: could you clarify?
[06:36] <wastrel> `JD: you'll have to learn to use the command line, or boot from a rescue disk
[06:36] <monzie> hi all
[06:37] <`JD> How would I paste into command line!!!I cant.
[06:37] <zphinx> God damn, should it be so hard  to find a decent ipv6 tunnel broker :/
[06:37] <gloin> !bugzilla
[06:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu's bugzilla ( http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ) is now closed to new bugs.  The new bugtracker is at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[06:37] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: just as it did before as soon as I give it an inital command like the "linux mediacheck" it scans my system then my screen goes black and it stops reading the CD
[06:37] <iceman> Still debating if i should actualy run Ubuntu 64 bit, or ubuntu 32 bit ... any one got input to offer ....
[06:37] <monzie> shift-insert to paste into command line `JD
[06:37] <damneinstein> it stops reading the cd?
[06:38] <corvax> you can copy from links browser
[06:38] <corvax> lol
[06:38] <makaveli> !tell makaveli ipv6
[06:38] <makaveli> he said I wont
[06:38] <`JD> What about if I have to restart the computer to get back into ubuntu monzie?
[06:38] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: yea
[06:38] <jsestri2> I am having trouble with XWindows, it will not start properly if my onboard network is enabled(cable in or out), but starts just fine completely if i disable it via BIOS...Anyone have any help/suggestions?
[06:38] <wastrel> `JD:  you could transfer the file on a floppy disk, you could print it out and retype it, you could mount your windows filesystem and copy it over, you could download it with a command-line web browser
[06:38] <crouton> jsestri2: Does X lock up hard if the NIC is enabled, or can you shift to a virtual terminal and get a dmesg?
[06:39] <wastrel> `JD:  you could boot from a rescue disk and paste it that way
[06:39] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: does it spit out a particular error?
[06:39] <`JD> I have a webserver.  Could it load a txt file from there?
[06:39] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: I don't think so, not that I could see
[06:39] <serpa> Anyone know a good site that can help explain to me how IRC works?  Unfortunatly I'm somewhat retarded when it comes to this stuff.  =/
[06:39] <wastrel> `JD:  yes
[06:39] <crouton> serpa: what part of IRC do you need explained?
[06:39] <`JD> What would I have to enter to load  it?
[06:39] <corvax> not sure if the knoppix hacks work on ubuntu live
[06:39] <jsestri2> crouton: it gives me a sort of error screen that looks like text based windows, with some sort of error messages...it then drops me out into the normal terminal login
[06:39] <wastrel> `JD:  wget  would probably work
[06:40] <jsestri2> crouton: it would appear everything boots, just not XWindows
[06:40] <yuri_> general lin question: the "bin" folder in the filesys is like a folder of ".exe's" in windows terms, correct? why are there more than one? thre is also a bin folder in /usr
[06:40] <wastrel> is wget installed by default?
[06:40] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: have you by chance tried the live-cd that comes with the pressed cd?
[06:40] <`JD> so say... wget www.mysite.com/txtfile ?
[06:40] <serpa> It's just the first time I'm using IRC, and I just don't know how it works in general.
[06:40] <martman> i reconfigured xorg so i could try and get some higher resoltuons, i can see the chnages in the config file to but im still running at 1024 and i dont have any higher choices in display system settings
[06:40] <crouton> jsestri2: do a 'dmesg' from the terminal, see if there's any weird error messages
[06:40] <concept10> gangsta, Ive found the source!
[06:40] <martman> anyone to get higher?
[06:40] <jsestri2> ok...I'll have to do a quick boot into ubuntu
[06:40] <jsestri2> be back in a few
[06:40] <wastrel> `JD:  yes
[06:40] <Swif> etc/apt/sources.list no such file or directory waaaa :(
[06:40] <IdleOne> `JD:  yes
[06:40] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: yea, I can't load into the system either, I can only get to the spalsh screen then it goes nuts on me
[06:40] <Swif> wtf did I do 8-(
[06:40] <crouton> serpa: pretty simple - just type.  tab lets you autocomplete most people's nicks, and you can /msg someone directly if need be.
[06:41] <concept10> Anyone having problems with direct rendering ATI drivers?  Check this page: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting
[06:41] <`JD> K, So, how would I open the xorg.conf file after that?
[06:41] <Swif> I have an xp system backup with all this in it and working lol
[06:41] <Swif> I can try that
[06:41] <wastrel> `JD:  you would  sudo cp xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:41] <Swif> brb
[06:41] <`JD> ah
[06:41] <wastrel> cp is the command to copy a file
[06:41] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: if by "nuts" you mean spewing out messages, that is normal for the live-cd version. How much time did you spend attempting to load the live-cd?
[06:42] <talisein> yuri_: /bin is for general utilities for all users, /sbin is for utilities for the system administrator, /usr/bin has your real programs like netscape, etc. and usr/sbin has more nifty badministrator programs. It just happens to be useful that way
[06:42] <Swif> im emailing this help file to myself lol
[06:42] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: by nuts, I mean my screen went strange colors, and I spent about half an hour trying to get the live cd to work
[06:42] <Swif> thanx 8-) everyone
[06:42] <`JD> and then, would the xorg.conf you first said would that be the one I want to replace the other?
[06:43] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: I see. I asked because it might have been a problem with the install cd.
[06:43] <wastrel> `JD:  you want to replace the (broken) conf file at   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   with the good one
[06:43] <`JD> Dosent that mean I need to save that one from the web?
[06:44] <damneinstein> tomkeller: what video card and motherboard do you have?
[06:44] <`JD> I would go wget www.mysite.com/goodconfigfile.txt
[06:44] <`JD> then save it?
[06:44] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: not sure about the motherboard, but I have an ATI Redeon Xpress 200M at 128MB
[06:44] <`JD> then replace it?
[06:45] <primoturbo> Does anyone know how to replace the globe icon with the real Firefox icon?
[06:45] <newbuntie> 'JD don't have to save it, wget downloads it for you
[06:45] <sagarp> how badly would Xgl run on an unaccelerated machine?
[06:45] <wastrel> `JD:  wget automatically downloads/saves
[06:45] <`JD> oh so it downloads and displays?
[06:45] <wastrel> `JD:  it doesn't display
[06:45] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: that might be the problem. ATI in general has very poor support for Linux. The drivers provided are not as good as the Windows counterpart.
[06:45] <wastrel> `JD:  wget just slurps them down
[06:46] <`JD> Then all I have to do is go sudo cp xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:46] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: so could it just be Ubuntu, because I tried the backtrack beta and it workd ok
[06:46] <wastrel> `JD:   sudo cp  <good config filename> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:47] <wastrel> `JD:  whatever the filename is called
[06:47] <kbrosnan> primoturbo, use firefox from mozilla.com, debian/ubuntu don't feel that mozilla's tradmark policy is compatable with their disto
[06:47] <`JD> so it needs not to be called xorg.conf wastrel?
[06:47] <kbrosnan> ubotu, tell primoturbo about firefox 1.5
[06:47] <wastrel> `JD:  the original file can be called whatever,  once you cp it the destination will be  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:47] <kbrosnan> ubotu, tell primoturbo about firefox1.5
[06:48] <rusga> Hi. Will Ubuntu install fine from iso on a Promise Fasttrak100 as a boot device? (Note: no IDE channels active)
[06:48] <`JD> Then I reboot and it shall be solved :D
[06:48] <`JD> thx
[06:48] <wastrel> `JD:  hopefully.... gl
[06:48] <`JD> I'll brb then
[06:48] <Swif> ok im bringing back my xp pro system restore so I can do the update I sent to my email pasted into email heh 8-) brb lol
[06:48] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: I am not familiar with backtrack and their drivers for ATI. I must apologize, I am not too familiar with ATI support on Ubuntu as I myself only have nVidia and Integrated cards. I am sure someone else, either on the IRC channel or on the forms, can help you better.
[06:48] <redblade> Hi I was wondering how to set up SunBird
[06:49] <Swif> thanx everyone :D
[06:49] <`JD> wait, does it need to have the file extension .conf wastrel?
[06:49] <redblade> I have the files and all but I'm not sure what commands to use
[06:49] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: it's alright, atleast I know it's probably my video card now, thanks for the help
[06:49] <SebastianM> good night guys. :) thanks for all the help!
[06:50] <wastrel> `JD:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf    needs to be called that exactly.  the other one  - doesn't matter
[06:50] <iceman> whats the command to install a .run file .... like this et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run
[06:51] <Belboz99> Hey all, I can't figure out why this script isn't executing.  I've updated the rc.d files, and it runs fine from the command line, any ideas?
[06:51] <`JD> I'm confused, I'm making a new file using the paste of the original conf file. Then getitng it and replacing it. Dosent that mean that the new one I am useing to replace the old need to be called xorg.conf too? or called anything and it will auto name...
[06:51] <OmegaAlpha> concept10, yeah im having probs getting my Radeon Direct rendering turned on
[06:51] <wastrel> iceman:  .run i think is a bash script  try  ./filename
[06:51] <OmegaAlpha> concept10, did you use that site to solve the same problem?
[06:51] <Autumn-Leaves> hi any one from indonesia?
[06:51] <Jivenix>  ndiswrapper (import:238): unknown symbol: ntoskrnl.exe:strrchr
[06:51] <concept10> OmegaAlpha, look at that page, its the best so far
[06:51] <Jivenix> does this error mean anything to anyone
[06:52] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: You are welcome. And I do apologize I couldn't help you further
[06:52] <redblade> Sunbird? anyone?
[06:52] <concept10> OmegaAlpha, go the the bottom and look at Userspace section
[06:52] <concept10> redblade, Sunbird calendar?'
[06:52] <wastrel> `JD:  you're downloading a file with wget, this will save it to the home directory.  then you are copying the file to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf    this both moves the file to the folder /etc/X11  and renames it to  xorg.conf
[06:53] <Belboz99> This script won't execute on boot, though it runs fine from the command line, any ideas? sudo -u dan sh -c "cd /media/sda3/f@h; sh go"
[06:53] <redblade> thats the one
[06:53] <`JD> ah okay so it can be newconfig.txt then.
[06:53] <wastrel> `JD:  or whatever, yah :] 
[06:53] <concept10> redblade, you can get an calendar extension to thunderbird
[06:53] <jsestri2> crouton?
[06:54] <crouton> sorry
[06:54] <redblade> concept10, how?
[06:54] <crouton> what's up?
[06:54] <wastrel> Belboz99:  cd is a bash builtin....  i don't know if you can really use it that way
[06:54] <`JD> woot thanks wish me luck coz I dont have very good luck when it comes to these things
[06:54] <odat> yesterday my webcam was reconized and working and today it isn't   ????
[06:54] <jsestri2> crouton: no problem, I just got back, I did the dmesg command from the terminal, after XWindows fails to start...I saw no error messages.
[06:54] <concept10> redblade, goto the mozilla extension site for thunderbird
[06:54] <wisie> Was just about to install mysql but am getting this error 'http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8836' could anyone recomend whats up
[06:55] <jsestri2> crouton: any idea for a location of a Xwin log file that would contain the problems from its failed start?
[06:55] <Belboz99> thanks wastrel, it's worked before using the cd command though, any other ideas?
[06:55] <concept10> wastrel, would you run this for me on the box you were working on earlier?  locate radeon_dri.so
[06:55] <crouton> jsestri2: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:55] <glick> hey when you login remotely a message appears
[06:55] <glick> what file is that message in
[06:55] <wastrel> Belboz99:  sh /media/sda3/f@h/go    ?
[06:55] <wastrel> Belboz99:  not sure...
[06:56] <airmikey> usb port not working in breezy
[06:56] <_jason> glick: /etc/motd probably
[06:56] <jsestri2> crouton: anything else worth checking while im at it? (i'm dual booting this comp, so i cant have this up at the same time as ubuntu)
[06:56] <glick> thanks _jason
[06:56] <odat> yesterday my webcam was reconized and working and today it isn't   ????
[06:56] <wastrel> concept10:  /usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so
[06:57] <concept10> wastrel, thats the same one i have, but ...
[06:57] <crouton> jsestri2: i'm assuming you don't have a spare NIC?
[06:57] <Belboz99> wastrel, how do I restart the init script?
[06:57] <Unicorn_Giggles> hi everyone
[06:57] <crouton> oh my
[06:57] <wastrel> Belboz99:  dunno :]   i'm a bit fuzzy on init
[06:57] <concept10> wastrel, I get this error: libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[06:57] <crouton> rainbow skittles and unicorn giggles?
[06:57] <jsestri2> crouton: unfortunately no...but if it would solve the problem, i could probaly spare the 10$...or maybe my roommate here at college has one i can pilfer...heh
[06:57] <Jivenix> how do you remove a user and remove their home directory also
[06:58] <concept10> wastrel, im about to make a symlink!
[06:58] <crouton> jsestri2: just so I've got this straight - if the NIC is enabled and the cable plugged in, you *do* get inet access but X fails to start?
[06:58] <concept10> wastrel, how do I link those two?
[06:59] <crouton> Jivenix: 'man deluser' should tell you
[06:59] <Jivenix> ok
[06:59] <jsestri2> crouton: I'm going to check the inet capabilities when i restart this time...hopefully i can ftp that log file somewhere else...
[06:59] <wastrel> concept10:  ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/: No such file or directory
[06:59] <kyo> whats the bash line to shutdown?
[06:59] <zphinx> Anyone here use btexact for ipv6 tunnel brokering?
[06:59] <crouton> jsestri2: I was going to suggest just installing a commandline IRC client, but that would work as well.
[06:59] <jsestri2> crouton: at very least that dmesg made it sound like the eth setup was fine
[06:59] <wastrel> kyo:  sudo shutdown -h now
[06:59] <kyo> ah
[06:59] <kyo> -h
[06:59] <crouton> jsestri2: if the NIC was enabled, yeah.
[06:59] <jsestri2> crouton: well i'll see how it goes after this reboot...
[06:59] <kyo> I did 'sudo shutdown now' and it was in maintaince mode
[06:59] <kyo> lol
[07:00] <jsestri2> crouton: thanks for all the help thus far
[07:00] <crouton> jsestri2: sho
[07:00] <concept10> wastrel, one more command for me please! ldd /usr/bin/X11/glxinfo | grep dri
[07:00] <crouton> kyo: if it's in maintenance, maybe hit the power button? if it's a relatively recent machine it should honor the command and shutdown gracefully.
[07:00] <wastrel> concept10:  no output
[07:01] <concept10> okay
[07:01] <concept10> wastrel, maybe i need to reboot
[07:01] <wastrel> clear out the running modules
[07:01] <wastrel> might help
[07:01] <crouton> heh
[07:01] <Belboz99> hey wasterel, I think I got it running!  Turns out the script that it was pointing to was trying to create a file as a normal user in a single-user file-system :P
[07:02] <wastrel> Belboz99:  ahh that would explain the cd
[07:02] <glick> hey i just downloaded an icon theme for gnome
[07:02] <glick> how do i install it and choose it?
[07:02] <Scott31337> I'm getting a new computer in a couple days - haven't played with Linux since 99..looking at different distros... is this a good one?
[07:02] <wastrel> glick:  system > preferences > theme   drag & drop it into the window
[07:02] <glick> Scott31337, no its terrible
[07:02] <wastrel> Scott31337:  yes!
[07:03] <glick> thanks wastrel
[07:03] <wastrel> Scott31337:  what were you on in 99
[07:03] <Madpilot> Scott31337: you're going to get biased answers here, you know :P
[07:03] <Scott31337> Slackware and Redhat
[07:03] <Belboz99> hey wasterel, you wouldn't happen to know how to change the priority of a process, such as wine, to idle, would you?
[07:03] <wastrel> mmm slackware
[07:03] <Scott31337> mad: yes
[07:03] <`JD> Yay!
[07:03] <concept10> wastrel, thanks alot for your efforts, ill be back later, im going to reboot
[07:03] <`JD> Ditto
[07:03] <`JD> Thanks wastrel
[07:03] <wastrel> Belboz99:  man nice i guess :] 
[07:04] <Belboz99> ah, thanks!
[07:04] <wastrel> np `JD....  learn some cli stuff tho - the command line is your friend
[07:04] <crouton> oh slackware, how i don't miss thee
[07:04] <`JD> But everything is still freakin huge
[07:04] <`JD> !!!
[07:04] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, `JD
[07:04] <airmikey> how do i get my usb to mount my external drive
[07:04] <Swif> im back 8-)
[07:04] <wastrel> `JD:  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:05] <Swif> with my sources.list fixed lmao
[07:05] <Swif> yay
[07:05] <airmikey> gnome should pick it up as as i plug it in wright
[07:05] <Scott31337> okay... :)
[07:05] <glick> wastrel, i did it and it said theme successfully installed but i dont see it in the window
[07:05] <wastrel> glick:  click theme details, icon tab
[07:06] <glick> sweet thanks walkingice
[07:06] <glick> wastrel,
[07:06] <abk> hey guys
[07:06] <abk> wine problem
[07:06] <glick> oh holy sweeness thats nice!
[07:06] <abk> I'm on AMD64
[07:06] <wastrel> heh glick what theme?
[07:06] <glick> wastrel, OSX
[07:07] <`JD> wastrel, whats the command to open up xorg.conf ?
[07:07] <Swif> im doing hoary upgrade cross your fingers for me lol (0_o)
[07:07] <wastrel> going for an aqua thing
[07:07] <Swif> just startin
[07:07] <Swif> now
[07:07] <glick> wastrel, not aqua just the icons
[07:08] <wastrel> `JD:  i suggest editing the one you downloaded....   how about gedit newconfig.txt
[07:08] <Swif> sht
[07:08] <Swif> its still messed up
[07:08] <Swif> sources.list 8-(
[07:08] <`JD> thanks
[07:08] <abk> on AMD64, couldn't get wine to install using Synaptic. Downloaded the binary .debs from the wine site and used dpkg -i --force-architecture to install. wine works, but it's saying that "the application is trying to create a window, but no such driver could be loaded. Be sure that your X Window server is running and that $SYSTEM is set correctly."
[07:08] <corvax> swif how is it messed up?
[07:08] <wastrel> Swif:  have you looked at synaptic?
[07:08] <Swif> I can reinstall
[07:08] <abk> I don't know where to start
[07:08] <Swif> yes
[07:08] <kuru> help
[07:08] <kuru> ?
[07:08] <kuru> \?
[07:08] <Swif> i changed it remember lol
[07:09] <wastrel> Swif:  i believe synaptic will write a correct sources.list file
[07:09] <Swif> i keep getting popups says it cant be found
[07:09] <makaveli> does yahoo messenger have webcam support on ubuntu?
[07:09] <corvax> swif dont reinstall download either the breezy iso or the dapper flight release 4
[07:09] <tkup|bed> Anybody who is using gtk-gnutell? Do I need to add a gnutella server to be able to search for files? I submitted a few queries but no results...
[07:09] <abk> no love, guys?
[07:10] <abk> can you tell me what the X Window server app is called so I can try and configure/research/reinstall?
[07:10] <inter> My 700m won't turn off after _successfully_ writing the suspend2 image to the hdd...manual reboot is required but restoring the image works perfectly...anyone got a suggestion on the poweroff prob?
[07:10] <stephen_> can anyone give me a hand setting up wireless with wpa_supplicant
[07:10] <makaveli> !tell makaveli webcam
[07:10] <gpm> hi guys. i just installed the clearlooks-quicksilver theme from art.gnome.org, all the other clearlooks-based themes work perfectly but clearlooks-quicksilver just looks like the default theme (not the way it's supposed to) anyone else have this problem?!
[07:11] <wastrel> abk:  your X window server is your graphical interface
[07:11] <abk> wastrel: I had that general idea.
[07:11] <inter> stephen_: what you trying to do?
[07:11] <abk> wastrel: any idea why Wine would give me that error?
[07:11] <inter> stephen_: err...what is the exact prob?
[07:11] <Frogzoo> !tell abk about xorg
[07:11] <wastrel> abk:  what does  echo $SYSTEM  give you ?
[07:11] <jsestri2> crouton: i do have inet access even after the XWindows server fails, and i use the terminal without XWindows
[07:11] <Swif> I added cd rom lol
[07:11] <Swif> it fixed it
[07:11] <crouton> jsestri2: That's interesting.
[07:12] <jsestri2> i'm dl'ing the logs now
[07:12] <Swif> looks like no errors popup
[07:12] <stephen_> it doesnt seem to be assinging me an IP
[07:12] <jsestri2> crouton: if you'd like to take a look...
[07:12] <abk> "echo $SYSTEM" at a brand-new prompt gives me a blank line and then anopther prompt
[07:12] <Swif> uhoh itsback
[07:12] <abk> no info.
[07:12] <crouton> jsestri2: sure, did you get the X log?  You can put it into pastebin..
[07:12] <crouton> !pastebin
[07:12] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:12] <Swif> so just download the breezy version of ubuntu??
[07:12] <jsestri2> !pastebin
[07:13] <wastrel> abk:  i don't know anything about wine- but the error implies it's looking for some value in your SYSTEM environment variable
[07:13] <jsestri2> crouton: whats the syntax as that?
[07:13] <jsestri2> on*
[07:13] <inter> stephen_: your running dhclient or dhcpcd on your wireless device after wpa authenticates, right?
[07:13] <irv10tz> hey guys i need help on installing my printer
[07:13] <wastrel> abk:  perhaps wine install docs will tell you what
[07:13] <timfrost> abk, some thngs won
[07:13] <irv10tz> hey guys i need help on installing my printer
[07:13] <crouton> jsestri2: Oh, that's just the bot.. You'll need to visit the website, paste in the log, and then post the resulting URL here
[07:13] <tga> howdy
[07:13] <Swif> ok will do
[07:14] <tga> gpg question: if I have my public key and my passphrase but I lost my home dir can I somehow recover my private key?
[07:14] <abk> well, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is doing something
[07:14] <jsestri2> ok
[07:14] <seank> after upgrading from breezy to dapper via apt-get dist-upgrade, the system does not boot.  it says /dev/hda1 does not exist right after GRUB.  is /dev organized differently in dapper?
[07:14] <abk> I'm reconfiguring
[07:14] <alcros> Hi, I just installed kubuntu on a AMD64 (Turion), but it hangs at boot time on "checking battery state", I found a few pointers but they all refer to nvidia cards while I have an ATI
[07:14] <abk> which looks promising.
[07:14] <alcros> any ideas?
[07:14] <jsestri2> crouton: i just ftp'd it to a website...will that be fine, or you want it there?
[07:14] <wastrel> abk:  you're reconfiguring your X server (your GUI)...   if you already have a GUI this is unnecessary and may break X
[07:14] <crouton> jsestri2: prefer pastebin, if it's ok with you.
[07:14] <IdleOne> !tell alcros  about nvidia
[07:15] <jsestri2> crouton: sure
[07:15] <abk> hokay.
[07:15] <IdleOne> alcros:  try #kubuntu also they can help more
[07:15] <irv10tz> hey guys, please help me... i need to install my printers.. can you give me a hand please?
[07:15] <jsestri2> !pastebin
[07:15] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:15] <abk> wastrel: so I should *not* continue with this reconfiguration process?
[07:15] <ubuntu> What happens if Ubuntu refuses to mount the partition when I click enable?
[07:15] <timfrost> abk, some things just won't work in 64-bit mode.  It sounds as if the version of wine you installed may be one of them.  If that is the case, you will need to install a 32-bit chroot, and run wine in that chroot.
[07:15] <crouton> lordy, apt-get upgrade on a K6-266 takes several forevers.
[07:15] <jsestri2> crouton: the bot dosent seem to be responding....
[07:15] <IdleOne> irv10tz:  without more info like make model we cant help..also what problem are you having
[07:15] <jsestri2> !pastebin
[07:16] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:16] <crouton> jsestri2: You need to visit that website.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:16] <alcros> I already did, but no answer, besides, seems more like an ubuntu thing...
[07:16] <jsestri2> kk
[07:16] <gloin> bloody hell
[07:16] <crouton> The bot just hands out information. :)
[07:16] <gloin> launchpad isn't sending my reg mail out
[07:16] <aaron> hello.. how to do get the clock back in the top right corner...its gone
[07:16] <glick> hehe OSX theme is beautiful
[07:16] <gloin> worthless closed-source yadda yadda
[07:16] <airmikey> how come breezy dont see my usb external drive
[07:16] <ubuntu> What happens if Ubuntu refuses to mount the partition when I click enable?
[07:16] <abk> timfrost: I had wine up and running before, on an ATA HD. I reinstalled from scratch on a SATA HD, the Wine repositories weren't working, and now I'm rather stumped.
[07:16] <IdleOne> alcros:  did you try the link ubotu sent you
[07:16] <gloin> why the heck is ubuntu using that instead of bugtraq
[07:16] <Madpilot> aaron: right-click on the panel, click Add To Panel, look for the clock
[07:16] <irv10tz> i am printing something from the net, i executed the print command but my printer won't print.. can you help me?
[07:16] <ubuntu> What happens if Ubuntu refuses to mount the partition when I click enable?
[07:16] <crouton> airmikey: do a 'dmesg | grep sd' and see if it returns anything
[07:17] <wastrel> abk:  i don't think it's useful for your wine problem....  but it might be educational :] 
[07:17] <irv10tz> i am printing something from the net, i executed the print command but my printer won't print.. can you help me?
[07:17] <`JD> grrrr
[07:17] <irv10tz> the model is from hp
[07:17] <crouton> ubuntu: Try mounting the partition from the terminal using sudo
[07:17] <abk> wastrel: thanks, I"ll continue and at worst I'll learn something :)
[07:17] <jsestri2> crouton: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8837
[07:17] <`JD> Whats with the freakin huge stuff on my screen.
[07:17] <aaron> Madpilot, right click doesn;t bring up a menu
[07:17] <jsestri2> crouton: thats Xorg.0.log
[07:17] <alcros> sorry, I didn't see it, I'm checking it out thanks
[07:17] <`JD> Everyhing is huge!
[07:18] <crouton> jsestri2: taking a look
[07:18] <wastrel> `JD:  did you do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:18] <andrew_226> I am having trouble playing divx avi files
[07:18] <Madpilot> aaron: right-click somewhere else on the panel, you can move the clock afterward
[07:18] <IdleOne> irv10tz: try System > Advanced > Pringing
[07:18] <IdleOne> printing
[07:18] <`JD> I kinda cancelled it because I'm afraid to do something wrong
[07:18] <andrew_226> I followed the instructions
[07:18] <`JD> I'll try again
[07:18] <jsestri2> crouton: if you'd like to see the output of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8838
[07:18] <aaron> oh, the whole menu is locked up
[07:19] <Yvette> why i open a soft or move the panel of gnome always slow.
[07:19] <crouton> jsestri2: For whatever reason, it's not recognizing your video card as valid for the driver it's loading.  Is this a laptop?
[07:19] <wastrel> `JD:  it will make an automatic backup of your current xorg.conf
[07:19] <irv10tz> IdleOne: there's no advanced in System
[07:19] <irv10tz> IdleOne: there's no advanced in System
[07:19] <jsestri2> crouton: no its a desktop
[07:19] <airmikey> crouton: its showing my internal drives
[07:19] <aaron> can you restart the menu ?
[07:19] <IdleOne> irv10tz:  I meant Administration sorry
[07:19] <`JD> Okay I did it. Should I restart?
[07:19] <jsestri2> crouton: thats odd that it recognizes it though if the onboard NIC is disabled...
[07:20] <abk> okay
[07:20] <crouton> airmikey: are you using onboard USB or is it an add-in PCI card?
[07:20] <Madpilot> aaron: "killall gnome-menu" should work - might close a lot of other stuff, though
[07:20] <airmikey> onboard
[07:20] <aaron> Madpilot, cheers
[07:21] <abk> I had it wrong: Wine's complaining about $DISPLAY. when I type "echo $DISPLAY" it gives me a line with ":0.0" in it. can I change this to make Wine happier?
[07:21] <gpm> hi guys. i just installed the clearlooks-quicksilver theme from art.gnome.org, all the other clearlooks-based themes work perfectly but clearlooks-quicksilver just looks like the default theme (not the way it's supposed to) anyone else have this problem?!
[07:21] <concept10> gangsta, OmegaAlpha I got direct rendering working ! with a symlink
[07:21] <gloin> so
[07:21] <gloin> just in case anyone that matters is here
[07:21] <gloin> launchpad's MTU is broken
[07:21] <gloin> sucks!
[07:21] <gloin> grr grr
[07:21] <wastrel> gpm:  are you sure it's a gnome 2 and not a gnome 1 theme?
[07:21] <Madpilot> gloin: what do you mean?
[07:21] <crouton> jsestri2: looking around a bit, brb
[07:21] <wastrel> what's launchpad and what's MTU?
[07:22] <jsestri2> crouton: alright...i'll be here
[07:22] <gpm> wastrel: yeah. it's a gtk2 theme.
[07:22] <gloin> Madpilot: it doesn't respect RFCs
[07:22] <alcros> Hi IddleOne and ubotu, I'm sorry but it still refers to nvidia, I have an ATI
[07:22] <gpm> wastrel: do they even have gtk1 themes on art.gnome.org?
[07:22] <airmikey> crouton: would this be my external.Attached scsi disk sda at scsi3, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[07:22] <alcros> have you had any experience with those cards?
[07:22] <IdleOne> !ati
[07:22] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:22] <wastrel> gpm:  no idea :]  they used to...
[07:22] <IdleOne> follow that link
[07:22] <gloin> !launchpad
[07:22] <Madpilot> gloin: I still have no idea what you're talking about...
[07:22] <ubotu> gloin: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:22] <andrew_226> how do you install themes?
[07:22] <wastrel> gpm:  you didn't say where you downloaded it ;] 
[07:22] <gloin> Madpilot: do you know what launchpad is?
[07:22] <`JD> It hasent changed anything
[07:22] <crouton> airmikey: Possibly.  Do you have SATA drives?
[07:22] <gpm> wastrel: my bad
[07:22] <fuxk3dup> which packages are required to get vi mode when running perl -d ???
[07:22] <gloin> Madpilot: also, do you know what greylisting is?
[07:22] <crouton> jsestri2: What motherboard do you have again?
[07:22] <`JD> Noy that I really changed many things in that thing you told me to do wasterl.
[07:23] <`JD> *wastrel
[07:23] <Madpilot> gloin: launchpad.net, you mean? Of course - I use it regularly
[07:23] <gloin> yes
[07:23] <gloin> well
[07:23] <gloin> do you know what greylisting is?
[07:23] <wastrel> `JD:  you're sure your screen & video card can support higher resolutions?
[07:23] <windman77> anyone know where I can find additional xfig image libraries?
[07:23] <jsestri2> crouton: ASUS - P5GPL - (intel p4)
[07:23] <airmikey> crouton: for my internal drives , 1 is sata  the other is scsi
[07:23] <gloin> Madpilot: www.greylisting.org
[07:23] <`JD> yes
[07:23] <Madpilot> gloin: there is a #launchpad channel
[07:23] <concept10> wastrel, i just made a symlink to that file and it works now
[07:23] <gloin> yes
[07:23] <`JD> 19" dell LCD
[07:23] <gloin> it's about as busy as an empty chan
[07:23] <crouton> airmikey: SATA/SCSI both use the /dev/sd nomenclature.
[07:23] <alcros> Thanks for those links !!!
[07:24] <wastrel> concept10:  excellent
[07:24] <IdleOne> alcros:  hope that helps you
[07:24] <wastrel> `JD:  where's the pastebin link for your xorg.conf ?
[07:24] <`JD> I'll get it one sec
[07:24] <tako> hello, anyone knows if it is possible to generate core dumps in Ubuntu? Is this disabled?
[07:24] <gloin> Madpilot: why the hell isn't ubuntu using something with a proper license?
[07:24] <concept10> wastrel, alright, later, i just came to help gangsta and OmegaAlpha but I guess they are idle
[07:24] <alcros> me too... ;-)
[07:24] <gloin> launchpad is closed
[07:24] <gloin> source
[07:24] <gloin> anyhow
[07:24] <seank> after upgrading from breezy to dapper via apt-get dist-upgrade, the system does not boot.  it says /dev/hda1 does not exist right after GRUB.  is /dev organized differently in dapper?
[07:25] <Nunquam_Fidelis> how do I eject my cd-rom in xfce?
[07:25] <glick> how do i install a new cursor theme?
[07:25] <`JD> Wastrel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8825
[07:25] <Madpilot> gloin: LP is an in-house project by Canonical - the same company behind Ubuntu
[07:25] <Nunquam_Fidelis> please help, someone
[07:25] <fuxk3dup> which packages are required to get vi mode when running perl -d  ???
[07:25] <gloin> ergh
[07:26] <tako> glick, go to System/Preferences/Cursor Selection
[07:26] <gloin> Madpilot: until it's not-broken, perhaps they ought to use known-good software
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  could close all windows accesing it.. then use the 'eject' command.
[07:26] <gloin> like, say, bugtraq
[07:26] <wastrel> `JD:  xdpyinfo | grep dimensions
[07:26] <`JD> Do I put that in terminal?
[07:26] <wastrel> `JD:  yes
[07:26] <crouton> airmikey: Copy your 'dmesg' into Pastebin and send the URL
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  but it may be still mounted.. Hmm..  xfce may have some mounting tool.
[07:26] <tako> hello, anyone knows if it is possible to generate core dumps in Ubuntu? Is this disabled?
[07:27] <glick> tako, i did but i dont see how to install it
[07:27] <wastrel> tako:  dumps of what?
[07:27] <`JD> done, wastrel. Do I reboot?
[07:27] <wastrel> `JD:  no
[07:27] <wastrel> `JD:  what did it say?
[07:27] <AntMaz> anyone have any idea about fixing the lily problem
[07:27] <Nunquam_Fidelis> hmm
[07:27] <Nunquam_Fidelis> eject command?
[07:27] <tako> glick, there is a button that says "install theme"
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  i used to use it all the time.
[07:27] <crouton> jsestri2: Try this.
[07:28] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Dr_Willis: how do I use it? :-)
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Nunquam_Fidelis,  ages ago stuff like cd's dident 'auto mount' under linux :P
[07:28] <crouton> jsestri2: Copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak, and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> type 'eject' :P
[07:28] <AntMaz> every package i install has an error
[07:28] <tako> glick, you have to download the themes first
[07:28] <Corsair> Can anyone assist me with a Samba question? ;x
[07:28] <OmegaAlpha> concept10, im here sorry was afk
[07:28] <glick> tako, i know
[07:28] <thelsdj> i have to say, Xgl/compiz is pretty amazing
[07:28] <glick> tako, but in preferences->mouse i see no such button
[07:28] <crouton> jsestri2: That should do the xserver reconfiguration from the terminal.  You said you have a GeForce 6600GT?
[07:28] <wastrel> AntMaz:  did you try to install the package it's complaining about?
[07:28] <Nunquam_Fidelis> err
[07:28] <Nunquam_Fidelis> hmm
[07:28] <wastrel> `JD:  what did the xdpyifo command say?
[07:28] <jsestri2> crouton: that is correct
[07:28] <`JD>   dimensions:    640x480 pixels (387x305 millimeters)
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> lilypond - A program for typesetting sheet music
[07:28] <wastrel> `JD:  ok...
[07:28] <tako> wastrel, I'm trying to debug an applitaciton and trying to generate a core dump when it seg faults
[07:29] <jdumont> Something tells me that if I download the edubuntu cd image that i will have something differerent than my current install of ubuntu > edubuntu-desktop > edubuntu-server via the sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop.  yes/no?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> gee - i really NEED that. :P lol
[07:29] <tako> glick, is not Preferences/Mouse
[07:29] <AntMaz> yes and it wont uninstall or upgrade or install im ready to start all over agian
[07:29] <`JD> Is that good or bad wastrel?
[07:29] <jsestri2> crouton: is there an commandline too built into Ubuntu?
[07:29] <tako> glick, is Preferences/Cursor Selection
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> jdumont,  you will have more items installed now - i imagine.
[07:29] <crouton> jsestri2: ?  commandline tool?
[07:29] <unix_infidel> umm there's no .xinitrc in ubuntu, how do i set which wm startx users?
[07:29] <jsestri2> crouton: i mean an commandline IRC tool? -- lost the IRC
[07:29] <unix_infidel> uses*
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  MAKE the file :P
[07:30] <wastrel> `JD:  it's your screen resolution - it is 640x480... that is small :] 
[07:30] <glick> tako, i see no such menu
[07:30] <crouton> jsestri2: plenty of tools, what exactly do you mean? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is commandline that will re-setup your Xorg.conf file... which is why I advocating copying it into a backup file.
[07:30] <wastrel> tako:  maybe ask in #c  how to make your executable dump core - i'm not a developer
[07:30] <Corsair> When i try to connect to my samba share, it is asking me to login
[07:31] <irv10tz> hey i already installed my printer how come it doesn't print?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Corsair,  you are connecting with a windows machine to the linux 'samba' share?
[07:31] <Corsair> yea
[07:31] <jdumont> meh... I'll just d/l the edubuntu cd and see what happens.  got a slow connection right now of only 250KB/sec
[07:31] <`JD> How do I change that westrel?
[07:31] <crouton> Corsair: did you perform 'smbpasswd -a <username>' ?
[07:31] <Corsair> its a fresh install of Ubuntu
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Corsair,  i recall that on the linux box you Must do a 'sudo smbpasswd -a YourUserName'
[07:31] <Corsair> um nope ;x
[07:31] <AntMaz> im ready to reinstall the operating system i dont know what little detail i missed
[07:31] <crouton> :)
[07:31] <biovore> oO
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Corsair,  then you may have to restart samba.
[07:31] <jsestri2> crouton: i meant so i dont have to reboot into windows to use IRC
[07:31] <wastrel> `JD:  what resolution can your monitor support?
[07:32] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: i found it, but its in /etc?
[07:32] <crouton> jsestri2: Ah. Yes.  Lemme see which ones work from cli..
[07:32] <AntMaz> but maybe it was because i never stoped the script for mozilla movieplayer
[07:32] <`JD> I dunno. 1240 x 1240 something like that
[07:32] <AntMaz> well i did eventully
[07:32] <wastrel> what script?
[07:32] <`JD> brb food
... re-setup your Xorg.conf file... backup file.<--- it does make a backup of xorg.conf
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  thats the system wide one.. a .xinitrc is just a simple shell script. :P example -> 1 line.. --> 'gnome-session'
[07:32] <Corsair> ok, that made it login, am i going to have to enter the password every time I want to use this?
[07:33] <theshibboleth> where are fonts installed?
[07:33] <crouton> intelikey: I like to be super careful. :)
[07:33] <tako> wastrel is not about how to do it in the application itself... someone is helping me to debug Rosegarden 1.2.3 and asked me to generate a core dump but he warned me about some distros having this optiod disabled... and it seems to be like that in Ubuntu
[07:33] <tako> glick, are you using Breezy?
[07:33] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: gotcha.
[07:33] <glick> tako, yeah
[07:33] <unix_infidel> i'm beginning to hate all this gui
[07:33] <IdleOne> who was looking for cursor themes?
[07:33] <glick> IdleOne, me
[07:34] <IdleOne> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy#HOWTO:_INSTALL_CURSOR_THEMES_ON_UBUNTU.2FGNOME
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  why even worry about it. :P thats what gdm/kdm handles nicely these days lol
[07:34] <Corsair> ok, now i have a little more complex of a question than that
[07:34] <IdleOne> try that
[07:34] <intelikey> unix_infidel so remove it ?
[07:34] <Corsair> How can i access the terminal for the linux box from windows
[07:34] <unix_infidel> lol.
[07:34] <tako> glick, do you have package gcursor installed?
[07:34] <unix_infidel> omf.g
[07:34] <crouton> jsestri2: irssi i think
[07:34] <glick> tako, i dont think so
[07:34] <AntMaz> wastrel it was something like lillypond that had the error
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Corsair,  you mean get a SHELL on the linux machine - in a window on the windows machine?
[07:34] <crouton> !irssi
[07:34] <ubotu> irssi is probably http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[07:34] <tako> glick, that's why, install it with synaptic
[07:34] <jsestri2> crouton: alright...we'll see if that works
[07:34] <glick> ahh
[07:34] <crouton> yup
[07:34] <crouton> it's cli
[07:35] <AntMaz> i didnt have this problem till after installing wine think i might of messeg it up
[07:35] <Corsair> Sure? lol, im setting up the other machine as a NAS basicly and want to be able to remotely access it
[07:35] <wastrel> AntMaz:  what script were you talking about for mplayer
[07:35] <lhoerste> hello, is there any way to get ubuntu to remember to connect to my wireless connection on startup? as of now, i have to go to the wireless menu and click OK to make the internet work
[07:35] <crouton> http://f0rked.com/images/irssi.png
[07:35] <glick> hmm looks like the archives are down
[07:35] <thelsdj> does ubuntu have a good program for recording a 'screencast'?
[07:35] <jsestri2> crouton: be back in a few
[07:35] <Nunquam_Fidelis> screencast?
[07:35] <carthik> How can I save the commands I enter at the terminal, and the output produced in a text file for a terminal session?
[07:35] <AntMaz> i dont remeber
[07:35] <crouton> jsestri2: aight
[07:36] <jdumont> dr willis.... what i want to do is setup my pc to be a server for edubuntu thin clients but can't see that option after running sudo apt-get install edubuntu-server.
[07:36] <carthik> thelsdj, search for xvidcap
[07:36] <wastrel> lhoerste:  you can set that in the network configuration tool.  system > administration > network
[07:36] <AntMaz> to tell you the truth i think ill just reinstall the operating system update lillypond so then i dont have this problem
[07:36] <carthik> theldsj, wink (non-opensource) also works fine
[07:36] <jdumont> hence the reason to d/l the "edubuntu cd"
[07:36] <glick> also how do i modify my task bar
[07:36] <glick> ?
[07:37] <jdumont> right click it glick?
[07:37] <AntMaz> i some how got a wndows virus in wine i couldnt quarintine it so i manully delted it it was some dll which is probably why its messing up when i try to install anypackage
[07:37] <intelikey> carthik exit saves bash history    and if you need to save stdout to file  either > file   or | tee file
[07:37] <AntMaz> thats the onlything i can guess
[07:38] <carthik> intelikey, thank you - How do I recall/read bash history?
[07:38] <intelikey> up arrow
[07:38] <wastrel> history
[07:38] <xnull-> history
[07:38] <carthik> man tee :)
[07:38] <carthik> thanks
[07:38] <xnull-> cat ~/.bash_history
[07:38] <intelikey> carthik less ~/.bash_history
[07:38] <overflow-1>  how to set real time priority to a particular process?
[07:38] <xnull-> carthik  more ~/.bash_history
[07:38] <xnull-> :P
[07:39] <bigfoot1>  i have problems removing lilypond-data via synaptic. How do i get rid of it?
[07:39] <intelikey> more......    more is less than less, cause less is so much more than more....
[07:39] <xnull-> apt-get remove from consola should work
[07:39] <xnull-> intelikey yeah:)
[07:40] <bigfoot1> xnull-: u talking to me?
[07:40] <xnull-> yep.
[07:40] <bigfoot1> i get an error window in synaptic: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-data_2.6.3-9~breezy1_all.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[07:40] <bigfoot1> "
[07:40] <glick> i would like it so that when my mouse goes over the icons on the pannel that it makes the icons pop up
[07:40] <glick> like in SuSE
[07:40] <bigfoot1> xnull-: how exactly do i do it?
[07:41] <crab_> hello, anyone know why I get a permissions error when I try to save a file to /var/www/ ?  Do I need to run the text editor in sudo?
[07:41] <xnull-> open a console but first close synaptic and sudo apt-get remove package/s
[07:41] <intelikey> glick in kde ?
[07:41] <djs_2_6> Hey all, I am trying to upgrade to the latest Firefox.  How do I do this successfully?
[07:41] <IdleOne> crab_:  yes
[07:41] <glick> intelikey, no in gnome
[07:41] <IdleOne> !firefox1.5
[07:41] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:42] <xnull-> crab_: u dont have perm. there
[07:42] <intelikey> oh i've never seen 'nome to that glick...
[07:42] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - thanks for that, but I have tried all of that with no success...
[07:42] <wisie> Hey lads, is there any guides on changing user permissions? I need to change this account to be able to delete certain files but it wont let me.. thanks alot.
[07:42] <iceman> anyone able to help me set up a Ubuntu / windows network ? so I can pull fils from a Windows box ?
[07:42] <intelikey> s/to/do/ ^
[07:42] <AntMaz> i dont remeber the full name but does anyone have this file in thier /win32 dir vfw32(something in here).dll
[07:42] <thelsdj> hrmmm dapper doesn't appear to have xvidcap
[07:42] <glick> intelikey, yah it musta been kde
[07:42] <glick> neva mind
[07:42] <crab_> xnull - I do if I run as root :)  Would it be better if I set up a virtual host that points to a directory in my /home ?
[07:42] <xnull-> wisie: man chown man chmod:)
[07:43] <wastrel> wisie:  you can't use sudo?
[07:43] <xnull-> crab: better to /home/user
[07:43] <iceman> I need help finding my windows box on a network .... anyone ...
[07:43] <crab_> xnull: I can do that, so /home/user/my-www-project/ or something?
[07:43] <wisie> I just tried deleting it in the gui and I got a  error saying i dont have permission or it's a parent folder..
[07:43] <bigfoot1> xnull-: i still get an error message with console. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d8840
[07:43] <xnull-> crab_: yes
[07:44] <`JD> So is it possible to chage res?
[07:44] <intelikey> wisie also you might think of using sudo rm   on the files in question
[07:44] <xnull-> bigfoot1: w8
[07:44] <wastrel> iceman:  do you have samba installed?
[07:44] <Corsair> anyone able to help me with accessing the linux box from windows accessing what gnome calls "Terminal" ;x
[07:44] <wisie> right will do intelikely, thankyou.
[07:44] <iceman> wastrel not if it does not install .... I can install if needed ...
[07:44] <wastrel> Corsair:  install ssh and vnc on linux, install putty & vnc on windows
[07:44] <wastrel> iceman:  try sudo apt-get install samba
[07:45] <Corsair> ;x care to offer more assistance than saying that? ;;
[07:45] <xnull-> bigfoot1: apt-get update && apt-get install lilypond-data && apt-get remove lilypond-data
[07:45] <djs_2_6> Anyone have success upgrading Firefox to 1.5??
[07:45] <wastrel> Corsair:  ssh is a server that allows command-line access  putty is a ssh program for windows
[07:45] <Madpilot> !vnc
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[07:45] <IdleOne> djs_2_6:  if you followed the wiki it should work
[07:45] <Madpilot> !ssh
[07:45] <xnull-> djs_2_6: its simple use synaptic
[07:45] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[07:45] <AntMaz> i dont remeber the full name but does anyone have this file in thier /win32 dir vfw32(something in here).dll
[07:45] <`JD> wastrel: Is it possible to change res?
[07:45] <wastrel> Corsair:  to install ssh on ubuntu  - sudo apt-get install ssh
[07:45] <fuxk3dup> which packages are required to get vi mode when running perl -d  ???
[07:45] <iceman> westrel downloading ...
[07:46] <wastrel> `JD:  what res do you want to use ?
[07:46] <wastrel> `JD:  just take out the other resolutions from your xorg.conf file
[07:46] <timfrost> !ff1.5
[07:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:46] <`JD> 1024 x 1024
[07:46] <wastrel> `JD:  if you break it, i think you know how to fix it now :] 
[07:46] <crab_> xnull: so far so good, but where is the httpd.conf (or equivalent) for apache2?
[07:46] <`JD> yeah I do know
[07:46] <IdleOne> is ff1.5 in the repos?
[07:46] <iceman> westrel  * Starting Samba daemons.. ok .. now ?
[07:46] <xnull-> crab_ : /etc/apache2 I think, or whereis httpd.conf
[07:47] <wastrel> iceman:  places > network servers
[07:47] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - I tried the first 2 methods, the first one would not give me Firefox at all, the second crashed constantly, and the third says it is not safe...
[07:47] <Corsair> ok i just setup the SSH
[07:47] <Xnos> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1213 , why it doesnt work for me??
[07:47] <crab_> xnull: I did that, but the httpd.conf is a placeholder for backwards compatibility.  I'm going to look it up, want me to report back to you?
[07:47] <`JD> so. I want 1024x1024... how???
[07:47] <bigfoot1> xnull-:  jeff@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update && apt-get install lilypond-data && apt-get remove lilypond-data
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Ign file: apt-build Release.gpg
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Get:1 file: apt-build Release [89B] 
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Ign file: apt-build/main Packages
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg [189B] 
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release.gpg [189B] 
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports Release.gpg [189B] 
[07:47] <crouton> Pastebin!
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release
[07:47] <timfrost> IdleOne, not for breezy
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release
[07:47] <xnull-> lol
[07:47] <crouton> !pastebin
[07:47] <xnull-> pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release
[07:47] <xnull-> :)
[07:47] <wastrel> Corsair:  go to the windows box and search for putty on google,  download putty
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages
[07:47] <Xenguy> !tell bigfoot1 -about paste
[07:47] <glick> too bad that in gnome you cant drag to different virtual desktops
[07:47] <bigfoot1> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports Release
[07:48] <iceman> does not see windows box ..
[07:48] <bigfoot1> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[07:48] <crouton> bigfoot1: Stop
[07:48] <bigfoot1> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages
[07:48] <Corsair> ok, will do
[07:48] <bigfoot1> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages
[07:48] <redblade> Hi I'm looking for voice recognition software for linux
[07:48] <bigfoot1> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Sources
[07:48] <bigfoot1> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Sources
[07:48] <bigfoot1> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Sources
[07:48] <xnull-> littelFoot: STOP
[07:48] <gloin> jesus
[07:48] <crouton> oy
[07:48] <crouton> saw that comin
[07:48] <iceman> westrel nope, no windows box ....
[07:48] <IdleOne> djs_2_6:  upgrade to ff1.5 worked well for me using the wiki
[07:48] <bigfoot1> crouton: sorry
[07:48] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - Which method?
[07:48] <bigfoot1> xnull-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8841
[07:48] <AntMaz> i dont remeber the full name but does anyone have this file in thier bin/win32 dir vfw32(something in here).dll
[07:48] <crouton> bigfoot1: Use Pastebin if you need to paste something.
[07:48] <bigfoot1> sorry everyoun
[07:48] <xnull-> crab_ : dont know.. i need to sleep to many hours online almost 37
[07:48] <gloin> this is why I prefer irssi =] 
[07:48] <IdleOne> first one I beleive
[07:49] <crouton> bigfoot1: Please don't flood the channel.
[07:49] <bigfoot1> crouton: i did paste in bin, but i pasted not the link but the text.
[07:49] <gloin> it has this little thing that says "You're about to piss everyone off and get kicked for flooding.  Are you sure this is what youw ant?"
[07:49] <bigfoot1> crouton:  i DID intend on pasting the link
[07:49] <redblade> Does anyone know of any free linux voice recognition?
[07:49] <bigfoot1> crouton: i made a mistake
[07:49] <redblade> software?
[07:49] <bigfoot1> crouton: sorry
[07:49] <crab_> xnull: omg, get some sleep!! thanks for the help
[07:49] <`JD> wastrel? Can I change to 1024x1024?
[07:49] <crouton> bigfoot1: Understood, just wanted to make sure you knew about Pastebin.
[07:49] <djs_2_6> Idleone - ok, I will try again now that I have found this channel for help...
[07:49] <Madpilot> gloin: irssi actually has a function like that? Cool, it should be mandatory for all IRC clients!
[07:49] <wastrel> iceman:  sorry i thought gnome would support that samba... i don't use windows at all so i don't know what else to try :] 
[07:49] <bigfoot1> crouton: yes. Before i made that mistake, just 2 minutes previous, i did use pastebin
[07:49] <gloin> heh
[07:49] <bigfoot1> sorry sorry
[07:49] <gloin> yes, Madpilot, it does
[07:50] <Xnos> someone can get this theme work, http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1213, my ubuntu doesnt load it
[07:50] <xnull-> bigfoot1: close synaptic
[07:50] <IdleOne> djs_2_6:  make sure you follow the steps dont skip any..if you run into problems then we are here ()
[07:50] <crab_> xnull: it's in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:50] <wastrel> `JD:  edit your xorg.conf and remove the resolutions you don't want
[07:50] <`JD> k
[07:50] <gloin> Madpilot:
[07:50] <gloin> 22:50 -!- Irssi: Pasting 10 lines to #ubuntu. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do
[07:50] <gloin>                             this or Ctrl-C to cancel
[07:50] <redblade> Is there actually any voice recognition software for linux?
[07:50] <gloin> =] 
[07:50] <bigfoot1> xnull-: it doesn't appear to be open
[07:50] <AntMaz> anyone have a problem with lilypond
[07:50] <redblade> ... ?
[07:50] <tga> what keyservers do you use with GPG?
[07:50] <bigfoot1> AntMaz: i do
[07:50] <iceman> westrel humm .. has to be a way .... may have to use vnc
[07:50] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - I shall try my best...
[07:50] <xnull-> bigfoot1: my bad sudo apt-get remove lilypond-data
[07:50] <bigfoot1> AntMaz: i can't get lilypond to work
[07:50] <Madpilot> !tell tga about gpg
[07:50] <AntMaz> bigfoot1 do you know how to fix it
[07:51] <eduardo> hola
[07:51] <wastrel> iceman:  there's other samba stuff in the repositories... maybe try a samba browser?
[07:51] <Corsair> ok, i got putty
[07:51] <bigfoot1> AntMaz: xnull-is helping me do it
[07:51] <tga> Madpilot, mmkay, thanks
[07:51] <Corsair> im getting connection timed out
[07:51] <iceman> it's sniffing the network...
[07:51] <wastrel> Corsair:  you should be able to connect to your linux box from windows with putty
[07:51] <Madpilot> tga: np - there are links to servers in that tutorial
[07:51] <tga> is keyserver.ubuntu.com synced with anything?
[07:52] <Corsair> what port is it
[07:52] <bigfoot1> xnull-: i did as you said, but http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8842
[07:52] <wastrel> Corsair:  choose ssh, it should set the port
[07:52] <AntMaz> is he still busy with you bigfoot1
[07:52] <wastrel> Corsair:  i think 22
[07:52] <bigfoot1> AntMaz: yes
[07:52] <bigfoot1> AntMaz: i tried installing it
[07:52] <intelikey> xnull- over-writting /dev/zero  ?
[07:52] <xnull-> bigfoot1: dpkg --purge that_package
[07:52] <AntMaz> tried to update it
[07:52] <bigfoot1> AntMaz: but it wont't run. so i'm removing it. I'm having probs uninstalling too
[07:53] <janosh> good morning 7:54 CEST
[07:53] <xnull-> intelikey :)
[07:53] <gloin>  22:53:17 up 134 days,  4:54,  1 user,  load average: 0.20, 0.20, 0.21
[07:53] <redblade> Hello? Speech recognition software? ANYONE?
[07:53] <AntMaz> i dont even know what the the hell it is but i can update anything cause it has some problem with it
[07:53] <IdleOne> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Speech-Recognition-HOWTO/software.html
[07:53] <IdleOne> redblade:
[07:53] <wastrel> redblade:  did you check freshmeat
[07:53] <crouton> don't know any speech recog software..
[07:53] <punkass> how do you can something back to the notification area...(i removed the volume now i want to add it back)
[07:53] <punkass> can=add
[07:53] <jason_> hey guys i need help installing my printer
[07:53] <bigfoot1> xnull-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d8843
[07:54] <jason_> hey guys i need help installing my printer
[07:54] <wastrel> punkass:  volume is an applet, just right-click the panel to replace it
[07:54] <Vashypooh> wastrel: im still getting time outs
[07:54] <jason_> i think the driver from the cd can't be read
[07:54] <IdleOne> !printer
[07:54] <ubotu> it has been said that printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:54] <jason_> hey guys i need help installing my printer
[07:54] <jason_> i think the driver from the cd can't be read
[07:54] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  timeouts with what?
[07:54] <jason_> !printer
[07:54] <AntMaz> i dont even know what the the hell it is but i can update anything cause it has some problem with it bigfoot1
[07:54] <Vashypooh> when i tell Putty to connect to it, it is saying time out
[07:54] <punkass> wastrel: yes i know i can add it just to the panel...but it was in the notifcation area by default and i would like to put it back there
[07:55] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - Isn't the home directory /home/USERNAME ?
[07:55] <IdleOne> jason_:  the driver isnt read because its a windows driver
[07:55] <punkass> wastrel: doh nm..it was just on the left of the notification area
[07:55] <wastrel> punkass middle click moves it, you can put it back next to the notification applet
[07:55] <wastrel> :] 
[07:55] <IdleOne> djs_2_6:  yeah
[07:56] <intelikey> djs_2_6 that is default... it can be set or changed.
[07:56] <jason_> Idleone: so is there any way that i can install my driver??
[07:56] <jason_> Idleone: so is there any way that i can install my driver??
[07:56] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  on the linux box what happens if you ssh localhost
[07:56] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - that is what I think I have it set to, since I did not change it, and I am not finding my firefox profile...
[07:56] <jason_> in linux?
[07:56] <No1Viking> Another firewall than firestarter?
[07:56] <IdleOne> !tell jason_  about printer
[07:56] <djs_2_6> jason_ - What printer?
[07:56] <Madpilot> jason_: read the URLs that were posted above...
[07:56] <`JD> wtf!!!!!
[07:56] <IdleOne> follow the link ubotu just sent you
[07:56] <`JD> It still dosent work
[07:56] <Vashypooh> The authenticty of host cant be established
[07:57] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  that's fine
[07:57] <Vashypooh> and lists a long PSA key fingerprint
[07:57] <`JD> I editing it manually, got rid of all of them except the 1024x1024 ones...
[07:57] <jsestri2> cruton: Thank you a ton! i am now talking to you via X-Chat!
[07:57] <jdumont> how do I know my domain
[07:57] <odat> anyone familiar with gnomemeeting?
[07:58] <intelikey>  1024x1024 ?
[07:58] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  can you ping the linux box from windows?  are you running a firewall on linux?
[07:58] <jason_> Madpilot: where is the URL???
[07:58] <jason_> Madpilot: where is the URL???
[07:58] <jdumont> from what i read, gnomemeeting is still in development
[07:58] <Vashypooh> its a default install of Ubuntu, i am unaware if it installs firewall on install
[07:58] <jason_> about the printer thing
[07:58] <jdumont> like as in buggy maybe?
[07:58] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  i don't think so...  can you ping linux from windows?
[07:58] <dubnium> question: if I need to install windows, how will i go about it if i already have a windows partition?
[07:58] <Vashypooh> lemme check
[07:58] <IdleOne> jdumont:  what isnt buggy
[07:58] <Madpilot> jason_: please stop repeating everything - and check the msgs the bot has sent you several times now
[07:59] <Vashypooh> yes i can
[07:59] <IdleOne> jason_:  you here?
[07:59] <Vashypooh> everything <1ms
[07:59] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  ok did you specify ssh in putty?
[07:59] <crouton> jsestri2: back?
[07:59] <Vashypooh> yes
[07:59] <intelikey> Vashypooh sshd running ?
[07:59] <jdumont> i fired it (gnomemeeting) under suse today and said, "ummm maybe another time"
[08:00] <jsestri2> crouton: yeah, i missspelled your name a second ago...Thanks a bunch! I am talking via X-Chat!
[08:00] <crouton> jsestri2: X-chat? That's a Gnome app... you got X working?
[08:00] <Vashypooh> oops ;x i find out what is wrong lmao
[08:00] <Vashypooh> im dumb ^^;;
[08:00] <Vashypooh> i typed 192.168.0.102 instead of 192.168.1.102 ;x
[08:00] <wastrel> cool :] 
[08:00] <jsestri2> crouton: you wouldnt have any clues as to where to go with onboard sound...that was causing issues at the "starting hotplug subsystem" stage of startup
[08:00] <thelsdj> hmm trying to compile something that is complaining about not finding X11/StringDefs.h and such, i installed the xorg dev package but doesn't seem to have that file?
[08:00] <Vashypooh> lol thanks for dealing with my stupidity
[08:01] <thelsdj> do i need xlibs-dev also?
[08:01] <`JD> Wastrel, it didnt work
[08:01] <crouton> jsestri2: not really sure, does the sound device show up if you do 'lspci'?
[08:01] <thelsdj> ah that must be it
[08:01] <jsestri2> crouton: trying...
[08:01] <Vashypooh> is it possible to login to X like this? or just this
[08:02] <wastrel> `JD:  did you copy the conf file you changed over to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (keeping a backup of the origial xorg.conf , of course)
[08:02] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  that's what VNC is for
[08:02] <Vashypooh> I see
[08:02] <crouton> jsestri2: so it was the hotplug that was preventing Xorg from running successfully?
[08:02] <wastrel> !vnc
[08:02] <ubotu> well, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[08:02] <jdumont> is remote desktop similair to vnc?
[08:02] <iceman> can you apt-get vnc ?
[08:03] <jsestri2> crouton: no...i have been running the on-board sound disabled since we started talking
[08:03] <wastrel> jdumont:  i don't know what remote desktop is :] 
[08:03] <`JD> I edit xorg.conf directly, I still have the back up
[08:03] <crouton> jsestri2: Ahh. Interesting.
[08:03] <Xenguy> iceman: yep
[08:03] <jsestri2> crouton: the xorg stuff was fixed with the reconfigure you suggested
[08:03] <wastrel> `JD:  and you restarted after changing it?
[08:03] <intelikey> wastrel caution.  if there is an xorg.conf in the $PWD and you run startx it will read that one rather than the one in /etc/X11/    i had a big fight with that the other day.
[08:03] <Vashypooh> iceman that didnt work
[08:03] <jdumont> well i'm scouring my install and came across remote desktop
[08:03] <crouton> jsestri2: Excellent, that's good news.
[08:03] <iceman> Xenguy apt-get what ?
[08:03] <jsestri2> crouton: I have now moved onto trying to get it to work wtih my on-board sound
[08:03] <wastrel> intelikey:  i don't think he knows the startx command but thx for the tip :] 
[08:04] <jdumont> i'll fire up xp and see if i can login to remote desktop
[08:04] <jsestri2> crouton: it dosent show up under lspci (i'd assume because its not enabled)
[08:04] <iceman> sorry, samba cant see it, vnc will let me log in and xfer the dockuments i need
[08:04] <`JD> Oh wait. No i didnt...
[08:04] <Xenguy> iceman: dpkg -l vnc*
[08:04] <Xenguy> iceman: will show you what is available
[08:04] <iceman> whats the name for linux-vnc ?
[08:04] <jdumont> ahhhhh kvm switches......
[08:04] <`JD> Its set to read only wtf?
[08:04] <wastrel> !vnc
[08:04] <ubotu> from memory, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[08:04] <iceman> Xgenguy thanks
[08:04] <Xenguy> iceman: yw
[08:04] <jsestri2> crouton: when i say its not enabled, i mean i have disabled the onboard sound via BIOS
[08:05] <Vashypooh> that obotu vnc stuff its sending doesnt seem to be too usefull to me
[08:05] <crouton> jsestri2: That'd be correct.  Is it the standard AC97 or is it something else (Realtek or maybe Creative)?
[08:05] <RichART1> how do i UNinstall ubuntu?
[08:05] <iceman> No packages found matching vnc#.
[08:05] <Xenguy> RichART1: you can't...
[08:05] <wastrel> `JD:  you have to use sudo to edit the xorg.conf file.  that's why i suggested editing the one you downloaded and then copying it over with  sudo cp , like you did before
[08:05] <Xenguy> RichART1: that's part of the beauty of it all :-)
[08:05] <jsestri2> crouton: i'm pretty sure its Realtek
[08:06] <intelikey> RichART1 are you planing on using the partition/s or making new ones ?
[08:06] <crouton> jsestri2: Might as well enable it and check the lspci output when you reboot, that's the first step
[08:06] <Vashypooh> wastrel, where do i find vnc that i need to install for this
[08:06] <glick> sweet i finally have a decent desktop
[08:06] <`JD> oh ok
[08:06] <jsestri2> crouton: assuming nothing has changed with that, I cannot boot...it hangs the start-up at the "starting hotplug subsystem" step
[08:06] <iceman> lol now i got to find my winvnc cd ..
[08:07] <jsestri2> crouton: and I am not able to Ctrl+c it
[08:07] <wastrel> tightvncserver   and you'll need tightvnc viewer on windows
[08:07] <Vashypooh> that link obotu thing gave was all about redhat
[08:08] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - Followed all of the commands, and now have 2 problems.  1) I am getting an error when trying to start firefox saying that Firefox is already running but not responding...
[08:08] <crouton> jsestri2: Ah, right.
[08:08] <flodine> anyone running the new e17
[08:08] <Xenguy> iceman: here's a possibly better/different list: apt-cache search vnc |grep vnc
[08:08] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  yeah sorry it does appear useless that ubotu info ;] 
[08:08] <djs_2_6> IdleOne - 2) My bookmarks are now gone...
[08:08] <intelikey> RichART1 if you are going to use the linux partition/s simple wat is mkfs.ext3 the partition.  else  c/fdisk  is the answer.     but be advised that if you use grub you may not be able to boot after such actions.
[08:08] <Vashypooh> synaptic is showing a VNC-Common package
[08:09] <crouton> jsestri2: You could pass 'nohotplug' as an option when you boot.  You aware of how to do that (with GRUB)?
[08:09] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  i think either vncserver or tightvncserver are what you want
[08:09] <jsestri2> no...
[08:09] <jsestri2> crouton: no
[08:09] <wastrel> i believe tightvncserver is a bit faster
[08:09] <Vashypooh> it lists vnc-common as Virtual network computing server software
[08:09] <Vashypooh> im not seeing tightvnc under synaptic
[08:09] <Xenguy> tight server and client are good
[08:10] <crouton> jsestri2: When the computer boots, press Esc, then hit 'e' to edit the preferred boot image, get down to where you see the line starting with 'kernel'
[08:10] <Xenguy> Vashypooh: you may need to enable the uni/multiverse repos
[08:10] <skwashd> hi
[08:10] <crouton> jsestri2: Add 'nohotplug' to the end of that line, and hit Enter.  You dont' want to hit 'b' to boot, but Return to boot with the changes you just made.
[08:10] <skwashd> i am trying to the fglrx drivers working with dapper on a dell d810 with a X600
[08:10] <thelsdj> hmmm no ffmpeg-dev package in dapper
[08:10] <Vashypooh> yeah i just did that, its rebuilding
[08:11] <skwashd> but no matter what i do it keeps on using mesa ... any ideas ?
[08:11] <jsestri2> crouton: alright cool, I'll brb after trying that out...
[08:11] <crouton> jsestri2: ok
[08:11] <djs_2_6> !ff1.5
[08:11] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:11] <Vashypooh> there it is, Tight VNCserver?
[08:11] <Xenguy> Vashypooh: nod
[08:11] <skwashd> btw i am running dapper with all updates loaded until about 20mins ago ... using 2.6.15-14 kernel so wine isn't broken
[08:12] <intelikey> skwashd it's probably not an option for you but; remove mesa ?
[08:12] <iceman> what do i type to install a run file shoot ./ does not work
[08:12] <Vashypooh> ok, now what was the windows software?
[08:12] <skwashd> intelikey: not really ... as next on the list is xgl :)
[08:12] <Xenguy> iceman: you are root?
[08:12] <iceman> et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run cant install this
[08:12] <jason_> hey my printer worked! Thanks Guys! you're all the Best!!!!!!!!
[08:13] <wastrel> iceman:  is it executable?
[08:13] <wastrel> iceman:  what does  file et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run  say?
[08:13] <intelikey> iceman sh file
[08:13] <iceman> Xenguy cannot sudo it ...
[08:13] <iceman> sh/et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run: command not found
[08:13] <jdumont> YAY!  I can remote access the xp box via terminal server client.
[08:13] <`JD> STILL DOSENT WORK
[08:13] <iceman> ./ same error
[08:14] <intelikey> what is the error ?
[08:14] <iceman> ./et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run: Permission denied
[08:14] <Vashypooh> how do i setup and configure tightvnc on the linux machine, or was that automatic
[08:14] <Xenguy> iceman: it's permissions
[08:14] <crouton> file permissions - check output of ls -al
[08:14] <wastrel> iceburgh:  ls -l et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run:
[08:14] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, my upgrade to Firefox 1.5 has an error message - Firefox is already running but not responding...
[08:14] <intelikey> iceman  ls -l et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run
[08:14] <iceman> Xenguy how to get premission ?
[08:15] <crouton> chmod
[08:15] <crouton> !chmod
[08:15] <ubotu> hmm... chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[08:15] <Vashypooh> search for any process runing djs for it
[08:15] <jdumont> where can i upload a file here?  if anyone wants to see my desktop.
[08:15] <Vashypooh> killall -l
[08:15] <Vashypooh> see if u see it
[08:15] <ba> yay! loudblog theme done! http://loudblog.nerdxcore.net
[08:15] <jsestri2> crouton: sorry, where do i add the nohotplug?
[08:15] <wisie> Hey lads, can anyone make anything out of this 'http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8844'
[08:15] <ba> shit! wrong windows
[08:15] <wastrel> !pastebin
[08:15] <crouton> jdumont: Text or Image
[08:15] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:15] <ba> window
[08:15] <iceman> iceman@Icebox-1:~/backs$ ls -l et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run
[08:15] <iceman> -rw-r--r--  1 iceman iceman 270687706 2006-02-18 23:45 et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run
[08:15] <iceman> iceman@Icebox-1:~/backs$ ./et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run
[08:15] <iceman> bash: ./et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run: Permission denied
[08:16] <crouton> jsestri2: At the end of the line that begins 'kernel'
[08:16] <Vashypooh> wastrel: how do i configure the vnc on the linux machine
[08:16] <djs_2_6> Vashypooh - I do not see any process named firefox or mozilla in my system monitor list of processes...
[08:16] <iceman> dang this file
[08:16] <Vashypooh> hrm
[08:16] <Vashypooh> try restarting the machine
[08:16] <jsestri2> crouton: alright...be back in a few
[08:16] <intelikey> iceman i told you      sh et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run
[08:16] <crouton> iceman: sudo chmod 755 et-linux-blahblah
[08:16] <OmegaAlpha> is it possible to install linux on an external hd?
[08:17] <intelikey> crouton no sudo needed he owns it
[08:17] <crouton> intelikey: he can't execute it
[08:17] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  will your bios let you boot with an external HD?
[08:17] <bigfoot1> xnull-: did you see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d8843
[08:17] <wastrel> crouton:  it's a shell script
[08:17] <intelikey> crouton he can chmod without sudo because he owns the file.
[08:17] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, from what i've seen in the boot order. its not listed...
[08:17] <crouton> intelikey: ah. right
[08:17] <iceman> finaly thanks
[08:17] <crouton> just habit
[08:18] <`JD> I'm stuck
[08:18] <intelikey> crouton also using  sh <file> will execute non executable files.
[08:19] <Vashypooh> wastrel: when i tried to run vncserver, im getting font errors
[08:19] <damian_> how do i automatically mount //5kfs/media upon booting its a windows folder
[08:19] <crouton> intelikey: right, but he said it wasn't working.
[08:19] <wastrel> damian_:  add it to /etc/fstab
[08:19] <intelikey> damian_ edit /etc/fstab
[08:19] <damian_> i know that part whats the command
[08:19] <biovore> damian_: you mounting a samba share on a winbox?
[08:19] <damian_> sorry wasnt more clear
[08:19] <damian_> yes
[08:19] <`JD> watrel: Should this work?
[08:19] <`JD> *wastrel
[08:19] <`JD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8845
[08:20] <intelikey> crouton if  sh file  wont work then chmod wont help
[08:20] <crouton> damian_:  not a command, look at /etc/fstab
[08:20] <crouton> intelikey: so what fixed it, as I don't see him talking about it now.
[08:20] <Vashypooh> Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.
[08:20] <Vashypooh> Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.
[08:20] <Vashypooh> Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.
[08:20] <damian_> i can access it from the places menu but i cant read files straight off the drive eg an mp3 or a video
[08:20] <intelikey> ask him.
[08:20] <crouton> iceman: what fixed the et script?
[08:21] <lhoerste> does anyone have this old ubuntu desktop: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=28 ?
[08:21] <damian_> so i can just mount //5kfs/media with -t samba or something
[08:21] <wisie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8844
[08:21] <wisie> Anyone? :)
[08:21] <intelikey> crouton it seems that iceman is too busy playing games to mess with us anymore......   :)
[08:21] <biovore> damian_: add the following line to your fstab
[08:21] <wastrel> `JD:  i thought you wanted 1024x768 ?  maybe your monitor won't support that resolution
[08:21] <crouton> wisie: did you already set the password?
[08:21] <`JD> I do ihoerste
[08:21] <crouton> intelikey: highly likely
[08:22] <`JD> So I should go down a couple?
[08:22] <jdumont> oh oh... i vnc'd into myself
[08:22] <biovore> .  //192.168.2.101/movies /mnt/movies smbfs noauto,user,user,username=guest,password=password 0
[08:22] <biovore> as an example
[08:22] <crouton> jdumont: get the endless hall of mirrors? :)
[08:22] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, is the only way to use linux on ext hd. is if it is able to boot from the BIOS?
[08:22] <biovore> (minus the . in the begining)
[08:22] <jdumont> heh...yup
[08:22] <wisie> crouton: Nope I havnt yet, thats the weird thing :/
[08:22] <damian_> oh i get it smbfs
[08:22] <damian_> stanks
[08:23] <damian_> thanks
[08:23] <biovore> try google next time
[08:23] <Vashypooh> wastrel: any idea of how to fix this?
[08:23] <iceman> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / x86_64
[08:23] <iceman> (tried to run setup)
[08:23] <jdumont> you mean i spent half a day trying to get vnc to work and here it is already installed by default!  <sigh>
[08:23] <biovore> it knows all
[08:23] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  i dunno...
[08:23] <iceman> how to fix that error
[08:23] <crouton> haha
[08:23] <biovore> iceman: what you installing?
[08:23] <iceman> oh 64 bit ...
[08:23] <Xenguy> hehe
[08:23] <iceman> Enemy territory on a 64 bit linux install ... dang
[08:24] <crouton> wisie: does mysqladmin alone do anything?
[08:24] <biovore> iceman: there is a amd64 bin
[08:24] <intelikey> iceman maybe in a 32bit chroot ?
[08:24] <biovore> iceman: or run it with linux32 (its a package in apt)
[08:24] <jsestri2> crouton: i can't get that command to stick
[08:24] <damian_> this place knows all
[08:24] <damian_> and alot quicker than google
[08:24] <damian_> :)
[08:24] <iceman> looks like ill have to install 32 bit chrood ... or just install 32 bit linux
[08:25] <wisie> crouton: brings up a list of commands, i might give it a look :)
[08:25] <jdumont> i'll see if logging off solves the house of mirrors.
[08:25] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  sorry i don't know
[08:25] <jsestri2> crouton: i edit it, and it appears to stay, and then i back up and boot my kernel, but it drops the nohotplug part of it
[08:25] <biovore> iceman: look around.. I think there is a amd64 bin for RTCW
[08:25] <crouton> jsestri2: you can't backup
[08:25] <intelikey> google is now officially obsolete    lol
[08:25] <Vashypooh> ;/
[08:25] <crouton> jsestri2: that's why you hit Enter to use the edit
[08:25] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  take a look at the config file for your vnc server - what does the fontpath say?
[08:25] <Vashypooh> where do i find the config file for it
[08:25] <damian_> for certain things it is
[08:25] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  there are font lines in your xorg.conf file - you may be able to figure out what to change it to
[08:25] <iceman> biovore have not seen one .
[08:25] <jsestri2> crouton: ooo, i guess i misread what you said. You said not to use b, but if i use enter is all good?
[08:26] <djs_2_6> How can I get a list of the running processes in a terminal window?
[08:26] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  probably /etc/xvncserver or something...
[08:26] <crouton> wisie: you could try 'mysql -u root mysql'
[08:26] <Madpilot> djs_2_6: top
[08:26] <intelikey> djs_2_6 ps
[08:26] <crouton> jsestri2: Yeah, don't back up and don't hit b.  Just make the edit and hit Enter to boot with those edits
[08:26] <apakatt_2> djs_2_6: top
[08:26] <jsestri2> djs_2_6: ps -A
[08:26] <intelikey> djs_2_6 man ps    even.
[08:26] <jsestri2> crouton: alright i'll get that going then
[08:26] <heliotrope> what are the differences between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[08:26] <jdumont> nope... all i did was close the terminal
[08:27] <timfrost> jsestri2, you may need to add nohotplug to the default parameters in /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:27] <damian_> biovore do i have to include a username and password it dosent have one can i delete those parts?
[08:27] <crouton> man? what, rtfm? that's unheard of!
[08:27] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  /etc/vnc.conf
[08:27] <Xenguy> heliotrope: desktop managers
[08:27] <apakatt_2> heliotrope: ubuntu runs gnome and kubuntu kde
[08:27] <biovore> damian_: you don't need it for guest, anon access
[08:27] <heliotrope> apakatt_2, whats the difference between gnome and kde?
[08:27] <Vashypooh> every line of the file is comented out
[08:28] <Xenguy> heliotrope: google kde gnome screenshot
[08:28] <biovore> actual kubuntu can run gnome and vis versa
[08:28] <intelikey> timfrost or kick hotplug out of rcS.d even
[08:28] <trooper00> i can't seem to get any sound out of gaim but nothing else is having a problem. is there a simple workaround? for example, what command could i run to play the sounds?
[08:28] <apakatt_2> heliotrope: as they said, google pictures. its different desktopmanagers
[08:29] <iceman> think i'll toast 64 bit install, and run 32 bit
[08:29] <damian_> better idea how it the places menu accessing them can i make that read write
[08:29] <iceman> as bad as i hate to
[08:29] <intelikey> biovore yes  in fact i always remove ubuntu-base
[08:29] <jdumont> can i have your 64bit?
[08:29] <damian_> or in guest access can i load files straight off the server?
[08:29] <iceman> anyone have the 32 bit chroot link to install instructions
[08:29] <crouton> oy.
[08:29] <timfrost> !chroot
[08:29] <ubotu> it has been said that chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[08:29] <Vashypooh> should i uncoment this shit?
[08:29] <crouton> timfrost: That's what I was trying to get him to do
[08:30] <iceman> Cost me 200 to build this 64 bit box ....
[08:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys... anyone knows how to use VOB files in mplayer?
[08:30] <timfrost> crouton, did you *actually* advise what edit to make to menu.lst?
[08:30] <biovore> iceman: There is a method to get RCTW working..
[08:31] <jdumont> oh great... i only have ONE salvageable cdrw disk and it has suse boot image on it.  I spent 2 hours trying to find the proper ftp server to install it.  <sigh>
[08:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i play one, it appears the dvd menu in which i can't click!!! :(
[08:31] <biovore> iceman: Its a ugly hack though..
[08:31] <iceman> biovore other than 32 bit chroot ?
[08:31] <Ashex> I seem to be having trouble connecting to the internet, even though during the final stage of install Ubuntu was able to connect to the server and download updates
[08:31] <biovore> yup
[08:31] <crouton> timfrost: I told him how to make the temporary change to GRUB at boot
[08:31] <crouton> timfrost: Since he's trying to figure out why his onboard sound is hanging his system during boot
[08:32] <iceman> biovore think i'll try chroot ...
[08:32] <biovore> http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-27879.html
[08:32] <biovore> its for FC3
[08:32] <biovore> but should work on ubuntu
[08:32] <jdumont> finally realized that opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0..... is different that sl-10.0.....
[08:32] <stardust> morning can someone check if my stream is getting thru the firewall for me?
[08:32] <stardust> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=630873&file=filename.pls
[08:32] <Jedrick> i have ubuntu on my system but when i do a fresh installation on windowsXP i can't boot on my ubuntu. why is that can someone help me?
[08:32] <crouton> Jedrick: You overwrote your MBR.
[08:33] <Jedrick> is there anyway to recover my ubuntu?
[08:33] <lhoerste> anyone got a 1280x1024 or same ratio version of this wallpaper: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=28 ?
[08:33] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  sorry i don't know, i don't actually run VNC - i thought the package would work...
[08:33] <jsestri2> crouton: hmm, Enter doesn't do anything for me...I tried b, and nohotplug was there on the command line, however it still attempted to start the nohotplug subsystem...ideas?
[08:33] <Jedrick> i mean any other way
[08:33] <jdumont> did you install an install cd or maybe a live cd?
[08:33] <RancidLM> hey all.. i got a usbdrive that i needa re-partition.. im using the dismanager.. but in unable to add delete partitions.. how do i enable this feature?.. because i needa repartition this usb jumpdrive
[08:33] <intelikey> Jedrick cause M$ is too dumb to duel boot maybe ?    but at any rate you just need to reinstall grub/lilo
[08:33] <`JD> >:(
[08:33] <`JD> Still wont work
[08:34] <crouton> jsestri2: Hmm. That's weird.
[08:34] <`JD> I set it to 1024x782 and it still wont work wastrek
[08:34] <lhoerste> `JD: can you post that wallpaper on imageshack.us or soemthing?
[08:34] <`JD> *wastrel
[08:34] <Ashex> RancidLM: what do you need to repartition for?
[08:34] <`JD> Yeah sure
[08:34] <lhoerste> ty
[08:34] <damian_> wats wrong here   damian@ubuntu-damian:~$ sudo mount //192.168.1.9/media /mnt/media -t smbfs
[08:34] <Jedrick> crouton: how can i get my ubuntu back without re installing and damaging any data
[08:34] <jsestri2> crouton: i also noticed that it said there was a TAB complete option, and so i gave that some wacks and it didnt seem to like the nohotplug line at all
[08:34] <trooper00> Ashex: is that really important? the man wants to repartition! :p
[08:35] <crouton> damian_: -t smbfs has to come after mount
[08:35] <stardust> blah
[08:35] <damian_> same error message
[08:35] <`JD> But I'm not sure where its located.
[08:35] <damian_> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.9/media,
[08:35] <damian_>        missing codepage or other error
[08:35] <crouton> Jedrick: you need to redo GRUB... probably your LiveCD will work for this
[08:35] <biovore> damian_: apt-get install smbfs
[08:35] <wastrel> `JD:  i don't know how to help other than what i've told you, sorry :[
[08:35] <Vashypooh> wastrel: I edited that VNC file editing the font paths which were wrong, but it is the same error listing same wrong paths
[08:35] <glick> hey how do you change the focus of apps using the keyboard?
[08:36] <crouton> jsestri2: Not sure about that. I'm about to crash, but I'm sure if you ask other folks around here you can keep going. :)
[08:36] <Jedrick> crouton: how? i'm just new to linux
[08:36] <biovore> alt-tab just like windows for KDE
[08:36] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  sorry I don't know.  it seems the package isn't any good...
[08:36] <`JD> Is there any way to fix it?!?!?!?!?!?!
[08:36] <glick> nice thanks
[08:36] <lhoerste> jdumont: whats the prob?
[08:36] <RancidLM> Ashex: i tried running a Dam small linux installer on it..and it re-paritioned it
[08:36] <lhoerste> i mean `JD
[08:36] <crouton> Jedrick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=restore+grub
[08:36] <iceman> yeck ... does not work
[08:37] <wastrel> lhoerste:  his xorg is stuck at 640x480
[08:37] <jsestri2> crouton: well i have to thank you for all the help you've given me anyways...i was about to give up. hah See you around
[08:37] <Jedrick> crouton: ok thnx i'll go check
[08:37] <jdumont> lhoerste.... ?
[08:37] <lhoerste> `JD: why not edit your xorg directly?
[08:37] <jdumont> why you ask
[08:37] <crouton> jsestri2: No problem, keep pluggin and you'll get it.
[08:37] <lhoerste> jdumont: sorry highlighted wrong name
[08:37] <iceman> i'll try chroot install
[08:37] <crouton> adios folks
[08:37] <biovore> damian_: you also might want to look at smbmount, then uses can mount samba filesystems
[08:38] <Vashypooh> got it
[08:38] <jsestri2> hey I'm looking for some help getting my audio to work...I have onboard Realtek Audio, and if I disable it, my system boots fine (minus that i have no sound) and if i enable it, my startup hangs at "starting hotplug subsystem" any ideas?
[08:38] <Vashypooh> Creating default startup script /home/stephen/.vnc/xstartup
[08:38] <Vashypooh> Starting applications specified in /home/stephen/.vnc/xstartup
[08:38] <Vashypooh> Log file is /home/stephen/.vnc/NAS:1.log
[08:38] <Vashypooh> it started no errors
[08:39] <Vashypooh> so, now that i got that setup, how do i connect to it
[08:39] <iceman> well crap ... i'll got to a 32 bit install ... dang dang
[08:39] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  you need tightvnc client on windows
[08:39] <Vashypooh> yea, i got that installed
[08:39] <Vashypooh> its failing to connect to server, so im prolly doing something wrong, and i am typing right IP lol ;x
[08:39] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  ok follow their instructions :]   i dunno
[08:40] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  you need the IP but also the display number
[08:40] <Vashypooh> it says the new X desktop is NAS:1
[08:40] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  :1 is the display number  NAS is the hostname?
[08:41] <Vashypooh> yea
[08:41] <`J1> Wastrel: Anymore ideas becuase so far no luck.
[08:41] <jdumont> anyone care to test a terminal server session by accessing this computer?
[08:41] <concept10> anyone on dapper?
[08:41] <Vashypooh> ok, now i am in sorta... its just showing a terminal window lol
[08:41] <jdumont> or is that only on  a lan?
[08:41] <wastrel> `J1:  no more ideas ... sry
[08:41] <`J1> God damnit. I'll be stuck like this 4ever
[08:42] <intelikey> `J1 what is the issue you are working on ?
[08:42] <jdumont> Jl swore
[08:42] <jdumont> heh
[08:42] <Vashypooh> lol, i closed the terminal window, and all im getting is a grey blob
[08:42] <jdumont> yer getting grey blob because a password window is asking for your permission
[08:43] <jdumont> minimize it
[08:43] <Vashypooh> Theres nothing here
[08:43] <`J1> intelikey: Screen resolution. Everyhing is huge.
[08:43] <Vashypooh> its just a grey window
[08:43] <Vashypooh> theres nothing to click on
[08:43] <jsestri2> hey I'm looking for some help getting my audio to work...I have onboard Realtek Audio, and if I disable it, my system boots fine (minus that i have no sound) and if i enable it, my startup hangs at "starting hotplug subsystem" any ideas?
[08:43] <Vashypooh> i can move a mouse around, but thats it
[08:43] <Vashypooh> nothin to click on, or any gnome
[08:44] <jdumont> Vashypooh , i believe an authentication window is behind that.. have you tried minimizing it?
[08:44] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  welcome to X without a windowmanager
[08:44] <wastrel> Vashypooh:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42941&highlight=vnc
[08:44] <glick> damn i installed gcursor but i cant get rid of my crappy white cursor
[08:44] <intelikey> `J1 sounds like incorrect sync/refresh rates.   check  www.monitorworld.com  and search for your monitor then input the correct rates in xorg.conf
[08:45] <nicholas> How would one make an app start when X starts?
[08:45] <Vashypooh> the XDMCP tab is greyed out
[08:45] <intelikey> `J1 also i cautioned eariler about having a backup xorg.conf in your home dir.   rename it or move it.
[08:45] <nicholas> i tried xsession and xinitrc niether worked
[08:46] <Vashypooh> ;|
[08:46] <jdumont> your kung fu is not strong
[08:46] <intelikey> nicholas i don't know about 'nome but kde has a start dir in  .kde/ some place.
[08:47] <RancidLM> i would i remove and repartiion a drive thats in /dev/sda ? its a jump drive that needs to be partitioned
[08:47] <glick> i installed a cursor theme but it doesnt show up in cursor selector
[08:47] <glick> do i have to re login?
[08:47] <tuxcicles> nicholas, saving session when exiting should open it next time you start s
[08:47] <glick> or something?
[08:47] <tuxcicles> x
[08:48] <nicholas> intelikey: i am using fluxbox
[08:48] <nicholas> so i actually need the X server to start them
[08:48] <jdumont> well kids it's been a real slice but i am going to format and install edubuntu from an iso cd.  the first go at it was i installed ubuntu then did a sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[08:48] <Vashypooh> why is XDMCP is showing up grey?
[08:48] <intelikey> glick [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace] 
[08:48] <glick> intelikey, what does that do?
[08:49] <jdumont> then from there i did a sudo apt-get install edubuntu-server
[08:49] <intelikey> resets the Xwindow system.
[08:49] <jsestri2> anyone know about onboard audio problems?
[08:49] <glick> intelikey, will that kill all my current running apps?
[08:49] <intelikey> yep
[08:49] <glick> whew
[08:49] <jdumont> but i don't see any kind of terminal server stuff so im formatting and starting fresh from a cd.
[08:49] <glick> good thing i asked first
[08:49] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  looks like you need to turn in xdmcp in inet.conf
[08:50] <Vashypooh> inetd.conf same thing?
[08:50] <intelikey> glick usually configuring x is done without anything else running.... or as little as possabel.
[08:50] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  page 7 of that thread
[08:50] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  my mistake, inetd.conf
[08:50] <glick> intelikey, ahh
[08:52] <tuxcicles> nicholas, if you are using gdm, you could tell it to start an xsession session
[08:52] <intelikey> glick what you doing, compiling a new kernel or something ?
[08:52] <jsestri2> hey anyone got any help for me on my onboard audio support?
[08:53] <glick> intelikey, no im just doing work
[08:53] <glick> intelikey, dont feel like quiting and saving all my stuff
[08:53] <glick> im in the zone
[08:54] <intelikey> jsestri2 lshw | grep audio && lsmod | grep snd
[08:55] <intelikey> jsestri2 also you can look in /proc/asound/
[08:55] <glick> sweet got all my kick ass keyboard shortcuts set up
[08:55] <glick> i am on a rollin
[08:55] <zphinx> is perl code executable in the init.d system?
[08:55] <fangorious> can lvm resize a group?
[08:55] <intelikey> zphinx should be after /usr is mounted.
[08:55] <jsestri2> intellikey: well, my main problem is that my system won't boot with onboard audio
[08:56] <jsestri2> intelikey: well, my main problem is that my system won't boot with onboard audio
[08:56] <wisie> guys ive missed something with setting up php
[08:56] <wisie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8846 do any of you know what I could of missed?
[08:56] <jsestri2> intelikey: the startup hangs at "starting hotplug subsystem" if my onboard Realtek audio is enabled
[08:57] <intelikey> jsestri2 oh you are not trying to get sound working... you are trying to get init booted.   ok.
[08:57] <Vashypooh> sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart doesnt do anything
[08:57] <MaxeyPad> just curious, but what effect will google's support for google have directly? Are they funding R&D now or what exactly
[08:58] <intelikey> jsestri2 which do you want to use   hotplug  or  the onboard sound ?      and if you say both, then get someone else to help ya fix it :)
[08:59] <jsestri2> intelikey: well, from what i've been told, turning off hotplug is a bad decision except for trying things out, so i guess the answer is both
[08:59] <jsestri2> intelikey: would you know how to boot without starting the hotplug subsystem?
[09:01] <intelikey> sure, jsestri2 access the linux / (a live cd can do that)  and move the symlink out of /etc/rcS.d/    i.e.  mv /mnt/etc/rcS.d/S??hotplug* /mnt/root/    then boot.
[09:02] <lhoerste> jsestri2: there are ways to use udev to do everything that hotplug does. but i dont know if it can be done in ubuntu
[09:02] <jsestri2> intelikey: oh, the other guy i was talking to suggested adding something to the command line in GRUB for booting the kernel
[09:02] <n00bmaste> will ubuntu run on my p1 with 30 megs of ram and with an isa network card
[09:03] <Vashypooh> lol maybe
[09:03] <gloin> err, I'm not seeing any xen packages in ubuntu??
[09:03] <Prohibited> Hey guys, I need help fast. I used sudo chgrp jesse in /etc/ and now I keep getting an error similiar to "sudoers is using UID 1000, it should be 0" -- HELP!!!!
[09:03] <zphinx> anyone mind doing a traceroute6 to void.strangled.net and tell me if you get a route :)
[09:03] <fangorious> n00bmaste: don't try to run gnome or kde though
[09:03] <n00bmaste> I know
[09:03] <Prohibited> How can I change it back, "sudo" doesn't work at all :(
[09:03] <intelikey> jsestri2 yeah, i don't think it will help to add an arg to the kernel  it is init that is loading it.
[09:04] <wastrel> Prohibited:  you should boot from a rescue disk and change it back
[09:04] <intelikey> but it "might" work.   nohotplug   added to the kernel line.
[09:04] <fangorious> Prohibited: boot in single user mode to get a root shell, then fix it from there
[09:04] <wastrel> or that
[09:04] <zphinx> anyone?
[09:05] <wastrel> heh forgot about the convenient rescue mode ubuntu installs in the grub menu
[09:05] <fangorious> zphinx: no ipv6 here
[09:05] <Prohibited> wastrel- I dunno how to do that (i'm a noob?) -- Fangorious- I tried that, I need "sudo" to change it though, sudo won't work at all.
[09:05] <wastrel> Prohibited:  you booted into rescue mode?
[09:05] <Prohibited> Oh
[09:05] <Prohibited> One sec, I will give it a shot.
[09:06] <wastrel> recovery mode i guess it's called on the boot menu
[09:06] <Fub> does anyone have experience making a USB soundcard override onboard
[09:06] <wisie> sorry, whats the command to remove something? I'm looking to remove apache etc to reinstall
[09:06] <wastrel> zphinx:  mine says network is unreachable
[09:06] <fangorious> wastrel: i keep forgetting that's there, because I always get rid of it right after installing
[09:07] <intelikey> Fub turn off the onboard in the bios
[09:07] <Vashypooh> wastrel, im still having issues
[09:07] <jsestri2> anyone have knowledge in the area of getting the hotplug subsystem started wtih an onboard audio? when i have my onboard audio enabled, it hangs at that stage of startuo
[09:07] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  i dunno - seems like vnc packages are stupid broken in breezy ?  i don't use vnc anyway...
[09:07] <Fub> intelikey, good idea, I was actually considering if I could remove the module
[09:08] <intelikey> Fub you can..... the guys in here will gripe at you for doing it that way.... but hey it's your box and your linux.....
[09:08] <wastrel> wisie:  sudo apt-get remove
[09:08] <fangorious> anyone familiar with resizing with lvm?
[09:08] <Vashypooh> my inetd.conf looks really weird
[09:08] <Vashypooh> #<off># netbios-ssn     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sb$
[09:08] <Vashypooh> 5900    stream  tcp     nowait  nobody  /usr/bin/Xvnc Xvnc -inetd -desktop=Nas $
[09:09] <Vashypooh> is that right?
[09:09] <thx8311> How do I install a nvidia card?  I had to take it out of my system to get ubuntu to boot.
[09:09] <jsestri2> i just did that
[09:09] <jsestri2> thx8311: i just did that
[09:09] <intelikey> !nvidia
[09:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:09] <wastrel> 5900    stream  tcp     nowait  nobody  /usr/bin/Xvnc Xvnc -inetd -desktop=Server -query localhost -IdleTimeout 7200 -depth 16 -once securitytypes=none
[09:10] <intelikey> thx8311  ^
[09:10] <thx8311> Cool, thanks.
[09:10] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  that's what the howto says
[09:10] <jsestri2> !realtek
[09:10] <ubotu> jsestri2: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:11] <jsestri2> anyone have knowledge about hotplug and onboard audio collisions?
[09:11] <Prohibited> g
[09:11] <Prohibited> How do you pm people?
[09:11] <Prohibited> I forgot :s
[09:12] <intelikey>  /msg people  blah
[09:12] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  looks like you need to install the xtightvncviewer package too
[09:12] <Prohibited> thanks
[09:13] <zphinx> wastrel: the dns entry was not long ago, could be your dns servers hasnt caught on
[09:13] <intelikey> Prohibited with their permission of course....
[09:13] <wastrel> zphinx:  could be i'm not running ipv6 :] 
[09:14] <zphinx> oh yeh
[09:14] <primoturbo> What's the command to remove a deb file I installed?
[09:14] <ejofee> what is blackdown java?
[09:14] <primoturbo> I used this command sudo dpkg -i gtk2-engines-clearlooks_2.6.5-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[09:14] <primoturbo> I want to uninstall it now
[09:14] <primoturbo> so I get new version
[09:14] <intelikey> apt-get remove --purge <file.deb>
[09:15] <fangorious> primoturbo: dpkg -r  gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[09:15] <primoturbo> thanks
[09:16] <Vashypooh> wastrel: http://home.comcast.net/~Vash_T_Stampede/working.JPG
[09:16] <primoturbo> I get dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of gtk2-engines-clearlooks:
[09:16] <wastrel> Vashypooh:  was it worth it?  surely you have freecell on windows :] 
[09:16] <primoturbo> and list of stuff that depends on it
[09:17] <Vashypooh> lol, im trying to use the ubuntu machine as a NAS for my XP machine
[09:17] <ejofee> what is blackdown java?
[09:17] <fangorious> primoturbo: apt-get remove will try to remove all the stuff that depends on it, if that's what you want
[09:17] <Vashypooh> I want to be able to remotely control this PC
[09:17] <primoturbo> no I don't want to remove what depends on it
[09:17] <offtaper> hi ppls
[09:17] <hondadarrell> any know where VLC is for dapper in synapic?
[09:17] <brosioz> how can i have a list of all packages installaed ?
[09:17] <fangorious> primoturbo: you said you want a new version of it, right?
[09:17] <primoturbo> yes
[09:17] <primoturbo> do I need to remove the deb package?
[09:18] <primoturbo> or can I just install new version on top?
[09:18] <fangorious> brosioz: 'dpkg -l | grep ^i'
[09:18] <fangorious> primoturbo: you should be able to install on top of it using apt-get
[09:18] <primoturbo> not apt-get
[09:18] <foo> Does ubuntu default with a firewall?
[09:18] <jessy> is it possible to change the gnome workspace by using a command like 'alt-tab' for changing window ???
[09:18] <dorto> my ubuntu crashed and its not booting now. get an error during /proc mounting during boot and gdm doesn't start
[09:18] <ao> i have a soundblaster 64 awe and ubuntu doesn't even know it exists
[09:18] <Vashypooh> ill be back
[09:18] <primoturbo> dpkg
[09:18] <primoturbo> can I use dpkg deinstall mypackage.deb ?
[09:18] <bsdfreak_> dose ubutnu have a  defaults with a firewall in it  it is it   f so wha
[09:19] <bsdfreak_> if so what is it
[09:19] <bsdfreak_> haha
[09:19] <brosioz> fangorious: i need a list with only the exact name to install all on another system...
[09:19] <jessy> ok 'alt-ctrl-arrow'
[09:20] <ejofee> !blackdown
[09:20] <ubotu> ejofee: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:20] <fangorious> brosioz: COLUMNS=256 dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}'
[09:20] <wastrel> jessy:  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[09:20] <dorto> brb
[09:20] <brosioz> thx
[09:21] <fangorious> primoturbo: I don't know if dpkg will be smart enough to install the new one on top, you can try it out though
[09:21] <bsdfreak_> dose ubutnu have a  defaults firewall in it  if so what is it
[09:21] <ao> i have a soundblaster 64 awe and ubuntu doesn't even know it exists what do i do to make it work
[09:21] <brosioz> fangorious: vey polite
[09:21] <fangorious> bsdfreak_: iptables
[09:21] <chunkahoy> hello hello, i need help on running ./configure on linux-source-2.6.12.  Is there any guru who would like to help me ?
[09:22] <Prohibited> how do you boot into rescue mode
[09:22] <fangorious> chunkahoy: try 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig'
[09:22] <Prohibited> the only thing I seen was failsafe
[09:22] <chunkahoy> ok,  it will fix my problem of always getting        bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[09:22] <chunkahoy>      ??
[09:22] <kameron> does linux fare well with synthesizers?
[09:22] <fangorious> Prohibited: when you first power on the computer, you get the grub menu that lists all the operating systems you can boot
[09:23] <dorto> how to fix ubuntu when it doesn't boot?
[09:23] <Prohibited> no i dont
[09:23] <Prohibited> it just loads up linux
[09:23] <dorto> i get errors during /proc mounting
[09:23] <dorto> and filesystem is mounted read-only
[09:23] <dorto> gdm doesn't start
[09:23] <wastrel> Prohibited:  are you running breezy?
[09:23] <Prohibited> yeah
[09:23] <trooper00> bsdfreak: iptables should be ready to go but the default rules are ACCEPT
[09:23] <Prohibited> I may know why, hang on
[09:23] <dorto> i am dropped to a shell and i cannot become su
[09:24] <graveson> hello all
[09:24] <intelikey> Prohibited when you power on  and it passes the bios screen  his  [esc]    then select the failsafe   or what ever it's called.
[09:24] <Prohibited> Somebody told me to type " init 3" in ssh, may that be the problem
[09:24] <Prohibited> ?
[09:24] <graveson> just installed ubuntu on new system
[09:24] <intelikey> Prohibited no
[09:24] <Prohibited> Well, okay. Brb
[09:24] <primoturbo> well  apt-get remove messed up my system
[09:24] <primoturbo> removed themes and all that
[09:24] <graveson> system boots to login and when trying to login system hangs
[09:24] <djs_2_6> Hey all, what was the default font in Firefox 1.0.7?
[09:25] <primoturbo> gonna try to reinstall
[09:25] <graveson> any ideas
[09:25] <fangorious> primoturbo: you could just reinstall them all, with apt-get
 Somebody told me to type " init 3" in ssh, may that be the problem <--- unless you have modified the runlevels.   then NO.
[09:25] <primoturbo> I am now
[09:25] <Prohibited> Got recovery mode, will tell you if it works
[09:25] <dorto> i have so many things installed in ubuntu, reinstalling means losing them all
[09:25] <primoturbo> 5 packages got removed
[09:25] <djs_2_6> graveson - any overclocking, what video card, which version of ubuntu?
[09:26] <wastrel> dorel:  ubuntu disables root by default.  use sudo instead
[09:26] <primoturbo> gdm gnome-themes gtk2-engines-clearlooks ubuntu-artwork ubuntu-desktop
[09:26] <primoturbo>  removed just installed them again
[09:26] <graveson> latest version from the web ,just download last night .video card is ATI .how do i know if i have overclocking enabled
[09:27] <wastrel> graveson:  glxinfo | grep direct
[09:27] <Prohibited> WOot
[09:27] <Prohibited> Fixed it
[09:27] <Prohibited> Thanks guys
[09:27] <djs_2_6> graveson - if you do not know if you have overclocking, then you do not.  Which Ubuntu?  Breezy or Dapper?
[09:27] <Prohibited> :D
[09:27] <fangorious> Prohibited: np
[09:27] <primoturbo> looks like it's back to normal
[09:27] <rabeldable> anyone know how to compile kommute on ubuntu?
[09:27] <intelikey> 'night.
[09:28] <wastrel> how do i set something to run on boot?
[09:28] <fangorious> brosioz: you may want to scan to see if anything was obviously truncated I just chose 256 randomly as it seems like it should be big enough
[09:28] <djs_2_6> Hey all, what was the default font in Firefox 1.0.7?
[09:28] <graveson> djs - i think it is breezy version 5.10
[09:29] <Prohibited> Okay, I need to have a program start up on boot up. How do I manage to do that?
[09:29] <graveson> wastrel: do i need to need a prompt
[09:29] <graveson> how do i stop the X server from starting up to do that
[09:30] <lhoerste> does ubuntu have a magical way to detect when I have a tv plugged into my computer as well or do i have to set up the xorg.conf manually?
[09:30] <fangorious> Prohibited: it depends on when in the boot sequence you want it to run
[09:30] <rabeldable> has anyone ever used mute for file sharing?
[09:30] <wastrel> graveson:  open a terminal window
[09:30] <chunkahoy> fangorious : do you have any idea why ./configure isn't working ?
[09:31] <fangorious> chunkahoy: because for the kernel you're supposed to use 'make config', 'make menuconfig', or 'make xconfig'
[09:31] <chunkahoy> ok, sorry if those are dumb questions, im pretty new to linux
[09:31] <chunkahoy> thanks for your help
[09:31] <zebraFusion> how can I tell what video drivers I'm using
[09:31] <fangorious> chunkahoy: np
[09:32] <graveson> wastrel - i cannot get to a terminal window as the login prompt appears and then the system hangs.i need to break out of the login prompt
[09:32] <graveson> djs - any ideas
[09:32] <wastrel> graveson:  ctrl-alt-backspace maybe
[09:32] <wastrel> graveson:  or ctrl-alt-f1
[09:32] <Fub> how do I stop a kernel module from being loaded?
[09:32] <wastrel> Fub:  take it out of /etc/modules maybe
[09:33] <Fub> hmm
[09:33] <Fub> not there:(
[09:34] <wastrel> Fub:  what module?
[09:34] <Fub> ac97 (sound card)
[09:34] <fangorious> Fub: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[09:34] <Hivemind> (<- Newbie) Hello everyone. I had to reinstall WinXP and now GRUB doesn't work. I tried using the CD to install grub, after activating rescue mode (as an online guide suggested), but that did not work. Any ideas?
[09:34] <Fub> fangorious, thanks:)
[09:34] <djs_2_6> graveson - did you use the grub loader?
[09:35] <zebraFusion> How can I install the fglrx drivers for my ATI video card
[09:35] <graveson> djs - yes
[09:35] <fangorious> man, that probably would have worked for jsestri too. but he appears to be gone
[09:35] <djs_2_6> graveson - when you first boot up it gives you the option of accessing the loader.  I think you can get to an emergency mode and you should be able to get a terminal from there...
[09:36] <fangorious> zebraFusion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[09:36] <graveson> djs - thanx how do i reconfigure the X-server from there
[09:36] <wastrel> !fglrx
[09:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:37] <wastrel> graveson:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  maybe
[09:37] <fangorious> graveson: djs_2_6: from the grub menu, hit 'e' on the OS you want to boot, select the kernel line, hit 'e', add 's' to the end, hit enter, hit 'b' to boot. root shell in single user mode!
[09:37] <fangorious> graveson: you could run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:37] <zebraFusion> thanks, wastrel
[09:38] <wastrel> !grub
[09:38] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[09:38] <wastrel> ^^^ Hivemind
[09:38] <djs_2_6> fangorious - thank you.  I knew there was something you could do...
[09:38] <Hivemind> wastrel: Thanks ^_^
[09:38] <Protocol1> this is pretty weird.....my windws can get on the internet with this low signal
[09:39] <Protocol1> but my ubutu has trouble getting an ip
[09:39] <fangorious> it's really odd how many times i've told how to boot in single-user mode in the last 4 days
[09:39] <Protocol1> it can see the wireless with gtkwifi but thats about it
[09:39] <wastrel> different drivers...
[09:39] <Protocol1> true
[09:40] <djs_2_6> fangorious - do you by chance know what the default font was in Firefox 1.0.7?
[09:41] <No1Viking> How do I check a disk, if it's ok without bad blocks etc?
[09:41] <fangorious> djs_2_6: "serif"
[09:42] <synth> hey, i installed ubuntu w/evms and md raid on 3 WD 120gb's - on 2 Promise Ultra133 cards - each on its own cable
[09:42] <synth> ive got a failing drive, should i just yank it and replace it with one of the same?
[09:42] <Protocol1> im enjoying broadband internet while I have it
[09:42] <synth> or are there things ineed to do to remove the drive from the software setup before i physically replace it
[09:43] <synth> i dont want to screw myself now that ive setup raid heh
[09:43] <No1Viking> How do I check a disk, if it's ok without bad blocks etc?
[09:43] <fangorious> No1Viking: fsck /dev/<device>
[09:43] <fabian> is this a good place to ask questions about partman problems when installing ubuntu 5.10?
[09:44] <wastrel> my postfix is b0rked
[09:44] <Protocol1> i just cant wait to get clearwire service
[09:44] <fangorious> wastrel: give it some meatballs
[09:45] <fangorious> fabian: couldn't hurt to ask here
[09:46] <fangorious> fabian: although the mailing list and ubuntuforums.org would probably get more visibility
[09:46] <fabian> ok, so I had a 5.04 installed without a problem, I burned a new 5.10 and tried to install it. I have windows on /dev/hda1 which I didn't touch, and /, /boot and swap I re-formatted
[09:47] <fabian> however i also have a primary /dev/hda3 in fat16 I didn't even know I had, and it gives me errors on that partition
[09:47] <fabian> after formatting the first three
[09:47] <krz> ubuntu doesnt have sshd??
[09:47] <krz> in /etc/init.d/ ?
[09:47] <maihem> I think I have a bug, but it may just be a misconfiguration. I set the Gamma of my screen in the xorg configuration, and now all the GTK widget backgrounds and all the icons are pale. Is there a way to configure gtk to assume a gamma of 1.0 (since the X server is performing the adjustment), the font rendering already assumes a gamma of 1.0 (which is why I set my X server to adjust).
[09:47] <fangorious> krz: openssh-server might be the package name
[09:48] <fabian> partman says "A bug was discovered!". When I say "ignore" (/dev/hda3 shouldn't be used for linux, apriori), it starts installing the packages, but then it crashes in the middle of the base system installation
[09:48] <fabian> that is strange because gentoo and breezy installed without a problem
[09:49] <fabian> (and now of course grub is broken so windows and linux won't load anymore ;-)
[09:49] <fangorious> fabian: breezy is 5.10
[09:49] <fabian> fangorious, the 5.04 i meant
[09:50] <fangorious> fabian: hm, you probably boot the livecd to restore grub. or you could boot the windows (2k or xp) cd to run fixmbr and fixboot to get windows booting
[09:51] <pinkpanther> how do I manually uninstall something?
[09:51] <wastrel> what are you uninstalling
[09:51] <fabian> fangorious, do you have any pointer to instructions?
[09:51] <pinkpanther> Berkeley DB
[09:51] <fangorious> fabian: but as to the original problem, of the mystery partition, maybe boot a live cd to see what's on it, and delete it if it's stuff you don't care about
[09:51] <wastrel> how did you install it?
[09:51] <fangorious> fabian: instructions for which suggestion?
[09:51] <pinkpanther> through make
[09:51] <graveson> system hanging when booting up ,tried to reconfigure x-server but no change i have the breezy version of ubuntu
[09:51] <pinkpanther> I did make uninstall
[09:52] <pinkpanther> but it didn't remove it
[09:52] <fabian> fangorious, the less dangerous one? :-)
[09:52] <wastrel> heh
[09:52] <wastrel> well that was my idea
[09:52] <wastrel> pinkpanther:  there's no other uninstall targets in the makefile?
[09:52] <fangorious> fabian: if you can download the livecd and burn a copy, I would boot off that
[09:52] <tuxcicles> graveson, where is it hanging at?
[09:53] <krz> fangorious how do i get sshd to start?
[09:53] <fabian> fangorious, ok... do you think it could have anything to do with the fact that I tried to install a x86 on an amd64?
[09:53] <fangorious> fabian: then you can mount the hda3 partition (mkdir /mnt/hda3 && mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3) to see what's on it
[09:53] <fangorious> fabian: possible, but i wouldn't think so. why didn't you use the the x86_64 iso?
[09:53] <krz> how do i get sshd to start in ubuntu?
[09:54] <fabian> fangorious, I had too many problems with compilation of new software
[09:54] <fangorious> krz: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start
[09:54] <yuri_> I have a logitech keyboard with volume buttons when i use the volume buttons it turns down the "Master" sliders. I'd like it to turn down the "PCM" sliders. any advice?
[09:54] <pinkpanther> uninstall:
[09:54] <pinkpanther> 	-cd $(bindir) && $(rm) -f $(PROGS)
[09:54] <pinkpanther> 	-cd $(includedir) && $(rm) -f db.h db_185.h db_cxx.h
[09:54] <pinkpanther> 	-cd $(libdir) && $(rm) -f $(libdb) $(libcxx) $(libso_target) $(libso) \
[09:54] <pinkpanther> 	    $(libjso) $(libjso_target) $(libtso) $(libtso_target)
[09:54] <pinkpanther> 	-cd $(docdir) && $(rm) -rf *
[09:54] <fangorious> fabian: well, x86_64 is supposed to be fully 32 bit compatible
[09:55] <pinkpanther> for some reason that part of the makefile didn't uninstall properly
[09:55] <tritium> pinkpanther: don't paste, please
[09:55] <wastrel> pinkpanther:  i assume you were superuser when you ran it?
[09:55] <pinkpanther> sorry
[09:55] <pinkpanther> yes
[09:55] <fabian> fangorious, I know I have to do some magic stuff to run in 32-bit mode and to get firefox plugins working and to get sun java etc
[09:55] <fabian> fangorious, but it will be easier to have it working directly :-)
[09:55] <maihem> fabian, is it a laptop? It could be a suspect partition, otherwise, it could be a recovery image for the original system.
[09:55] <fabian> maihem, yeah, laptop
[09:56] <tuxcicles> i was hanging up at bootup, and it turned out it was due to my buggy usb epson printer - i unplugged it and reset it  and walla - back to normal
[09:56] <maihem> s/suspect/sespend/
[09:56] <fangorious> fabian: i haven't messed with x86_64 very much
[09:56] <maihem> s/sespend/suspend/ -- buggering hell
[09:56] <fabian> maihem, the recovery partition I deleted to install linux on it :-)
[09:56] <fabian> maihem : besides, it's only 8MB
[09:57] <Cryptid> Some one please help me get and install intel 915 motherboard graphic Drivers!!!
[09:57] <fangorious> fabian: can you download/burn a livecd image to boot off of?
[09:57] <fabian> fangorious, on another computer, yes
[09:57] <yuri_> I have a logitech keyboard with volume buttons when i use the volume buttons it turns down the "Master" sliders. I'd like it to turn down the "PCM" sliders. any advice?
[09:57] <jnoon> when you use a shebang like "#!/usr/bin/env ruby", how does it figure out which ruby to use if there were one version in /usr/bin and one in /usr/local/bin?  how would you change which one its using?
[09:57] <krz_> fangorious, i get * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[09:57] <stjepan> hi
[09:58] <krz_> invoke-rc.d: initscript ssh, action "start" failed.
[09:58] <maihem> jnoon, when you use env, it does exactly the same thing as `which ruby`
[09:58] <krz_> why?
[09:58] <wastrel> jnoon:  i believe it uses the one that it finds first on the path
[09:58] <jnoon> oh ok
[09:58] <fangorious> fabian: that's probably your best bet. you can check out the contents of that partition that way. then re-run the install choosing to delete it if it's disposable
[09:58] <ChunkAhoy> fangorious: i get pages and pages of errors with sudo make menuconfig.       firsts lines of errors seems to be missing .h libraries than alot of compiling errors due to the missing libraries i guess.           scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[09:59] <ChunkAhoy> i installed all gcc packages and its still the same
[09:59] <fabian> fangorious, ok... do you think windows could need it to start up? I wouldn't think so but you never know
[09:59] <krz_> fangorious, im krz, btw. with the sshd problem
[09:59] <maihem> ChunkAhoy: install libc6-dev package
[10:00] <fangorious> fabian: i doubt it but
[10:00] <ChunkAhoy> ah,  thank you maihem,   i'll do that  :)
[10:00] <zebraFusion> 5. Another bug in the driver... And for video, there is a bug with xv, so we want to start "gstreamer-properties" and tell it not to use xv for video. (This is the same as starting "Multimedia Systems Selector", a Preferences application that is currently hidden in your menu system)
[10:00] <fabian> ok
[10:00] <zebraFusion> what does that mean, someone
[10:00] <fabian> fangorious, thanks for you help
[10:00] <Cryptid> i just bought a XFX nvidia Graphic card and i already have Ubuntu Installed when i insert the card and start Ubuntu i get some Xorg erro so how do fix this error????
[10:00] <fangorious> fabian: good luck
[10:00] <fabian> :-)
[10:00] <fangorious> krz, i'm trying to locate which logfile sshd logs to
[10:01] <RememberPOL> Why isn't Mozilla Firefox v1.5x in the Ubuntu repository?
[10:02] <maihem> Cryptid: you can try opening /etc/X11/xorg.conf using your favourite text editor (via sudo), searching for "nvidia" and replacing it with "nv". Then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[10:02] <fangorious> zebraFusion: it means there's a bug in the driver which prevents you from using a certain video output mode
[10:02] <ploom> mm - can ext3 filesystem become fragmentated too??
[10:02] <krz_> fangorious, ok
[10:02] <maihem> RememberPOL: it is in Dapper. It was released after Breezy, so that's why it's not in there.
[10:03] <RememberPOL> maihem: Yes but why not allow current Breezy users be able to upgrade to it?
[10:03] <zebraFusion> fangorious, but it says to do something and I have no idea what
[10:03] <zebraFusion> so we want to start "gstreamer-properties" and tell it not to use xv for video. (This is the same as starting "Multimedia Systems Selector", a Preferences application that is currently hidden in your menu system)
[10:03] <wastrel> RememberPOL:  because breezy was frozen before 1.5 was released
[10:03] <fangorious> zebraFusion: on the menubar at the top of your screen you'll see "System", which has a "Preferences" sub-menu, which in turn has a "Multimedia Systems Selector" item which lets you specify the video output mode
[10:03] <zebraFusion> what does that mean
[10:03] <Cryptid> maihem, oh! so i just have to just open xorg.conf and edit it using gedit and find the word nvidia and replace it with nv??? do i have to replace all nvidias with nv???
[10:04] <maihem> RememberPOL: because whole new versions cmoe out once every siz months, so on average you only have to wait for three.
[10:04] <RememberPOL> I thought new Ubuntu versions were to feature complete new software packages and system features not just upgraded versions of the same package that could just as well be available using the Update Manager?
[10:04] <zebraFusion> fangorious, if you read the paragraph it says it's currently hidden in your menu system.
[10:04] <maihem> Cryptid: ah, gedit is not going to work in this case. try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <RememberPOL> maihem: But okay thank you. I will follow the wiki:FirefoxNewVersion instructions.
[10:04] <fangorious> zebraFusion: the program started by that menu item is 'gstreamer-properties', which you can also start by typing that into a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal)
[10:04] <maihem> Cryptid: There is probably only one occurrence of "nvidia". It will be in the "Driver" section.
[10:05] <fangorious> zebraFusion: Are you running dapper or breezy (it shows up for me in breezy)
[10:05] <zebraFusion> fangorious, dapper.
[10:05] <krz> fangorious found anything? :)
[10:05] <fangorious> zebraFusion: Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor, you can enable it in there
[10:05] <zebraFusion> fangorious, thanks, I got it by running the terminal command
[10:05] <fangorious> krz: not yet
[10:06] <thegladiator> how do I see my upstatus
[10:06] <thegladiator> ?
[10:06] <wastrel> fangorious, krz: /var/log/auth.log will record ssh logins...
[10:07] <Cryptid> maihem, ok so this will surely fix the problem rite and if there is ne problem can i switch back to my onboard graphic?????and do u have ne idea bout intel 915 mobo graphic drivers????
[10:07] <fangorious> wastrel: yeah, but it doesn't record the server starting/stopping, and any error messages during startup
[10:07] <fangorious> thegladiator: you mean uptime? run 'uptime' in a terminal
[10:08] <maihem> Cryptid: It is possible that it won't fix the problem. If the opensource nvidia driver (nv) doesn't support your graphics card it won't work.
[10:08] <tritium> Cryptid: did you disable the onboard video in BIOS?
[10:08] <Cryptid> maihem, i got a XFX 6600 256mb DDR card do u have ne idea if it is supported
[10:08] <maihem> Cryptid: BTW, if it already says "nv" and not "nvidia", then installing the nvidia binary packages may help (this would set the driver to "nvidia").
[10:09] <maihem> Cryptid: I don't know.
[10:09] <fangorious> brb
[10:09] <wastrel> fangorious:  it shows startup & such on my system
[10:09] <stjepan> do you know any gtk replacements for kpowersave?
[10:09] <thelsdj> hrm whats the command to see what code a key on keyboard sends?
[10:09] <graveson> system hanging when booting up into x,tried to reconfigure x-server no luck any ideas
[10:09] <Cryptid> tritium,,,  ??? noboard graphics of my mobo (D915) u talking bout,,, i have no idea i have check it out now
[10:10] <maihem> Repeating an earlier question, in case anybody has joined that knows:  I think I have a bug, but it may just be a misconfiguration. I set the Gamma of my screen in the xorg configuration, and now all the GTK widget backgrounds and all the icons are pale. Is there a way to configure gtk to assume a gamma of 1.0 (since the X server is performing the adjustment), the font rendering already assumes a gamma of 1.0 (which is wh
[10:10] <maihem> y I set my X server to adjust).
[10:11] <krz_> fangorious, when you said: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start. you also meant for me to put my password and username?
[10:11] <krz_> im already logged in as root btw
[10:11] <maihem> GTK seems to be assuming a gamma of 2.2, giving me an effective gamma of 4.84 :/
[10:11] <maihem> I mean 0.4545454545...
[10:11] <wastrel> what's gamma?
[10:12] <maihem> wastrel: gamma curve. It is where 50 percent grey is not halfway between black and white. So you software has to send brighter pixels (except fo black and white) to the monitor.
[10:13] <krz_> all i need to do is start sshd. why the heck is it so difficult to do
[10:13] <maihem> I suspect that GTK themes, and icons have been set up by people with gamma 2.2 displays. So when drawn on gamma 1.0, it's too bright.
[10:14] <Corsair> is there any real harm to a HD if a pc's bios cant see its full size?
[10:14] <fangorious> krz: sudo should only need your password
[10:14] <maihem> most PC monitors have gamma 2.2. Mine now has gamma 1.0 since the X server is adjusting all pixels. This removes irritating colour artifacts from around text when using subpixel rendering for extra smooth fonts.
[10:14] <Mythri1> are there any programs out there that automatically traverse a directory tree and delete duplicate files?
[10:15] <fangorious> krz: and the default config should have sshd launching at boot
[10:15] <krz_> fangorious, maybe its already running. how do i check if this is the case?
[10:16] <wastrel> krz_:  ssh localhost
[10:16] <krz_> wastrel, i get The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established.
[10:16] <krz_> RSA key fingerprint is d1:97:cb:2e:dc:27:a9:db:9e:db:5d:01:87:cb:35:12.
[10:16] <fangorious> krz_: that means it's running
[10:16] <krz_> hm
[10:17] <fangorious> krz: but you don't have the server's host key in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[10:17] <Corsair> how do i see what drives are available
[10:17] <fangorious> krz: it should ask if you want to add it in those cases
[10:17] <Corsair> not nessecarily mounted, just are there
[10:18] <krz> fangorious what im trying to do, is use WinSCP to connect a windows box to my linux box
[10:18] <carthik> How do I get apt-get install the suggested and recommended packages for a package I request to be installed? Can I make it ask me if I want to install the suggested and recommended packages too?
[10:18] <fangorious> krz: well you seem to have sshd running on your linux box now
[10:18] <Corsair> can anyone help? ;x
[10:18] <Mythri1> are there any programs out there that remove specific characters from filenames?
[10:18] <Mythri1> in an entire directory that is
[10:19] <krz> fangorious just to verify. ssh is on port 22 right?
[10:19] <carthik> Mythri1, there are renamers, search for rename in name and description in synaptic and you will find some
[10:19] <OmegaAlpha> i cant believe i still cant enable my direct rendering.  mesa is still showing up and not ATI
[10:19] <SaLoMoN> yeah krz
[10:19] <fangorious> krz: yep
[10:20] <fangorious> Corsair: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' will show all the partitions on the first ide/ata hard drive
[10:20] <graveson> how do i reconfigure networking
[10:20] <fangorious> Corsair: i'm not sure how to get a list of attached drives though
[10:21] <benplaut> anyone here play shogo?
[10:21] <LattePiu> here, there's a nice shogo one: http://s1.bitefight.it/c.php?uid=27557
[10:22] <Corsair> i just installed a second Hd
[10:22] <fangorious> Corsair: ata?
[10:22] <Madpilot> !mount
[10:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:22] <Madpilot> Corsair: see the bot ^^^
[10:22] <Corsair> yea
[10:22] <Corsair> i dont think its formated
[10:22] <fangorious> Corsair: same cable as the existing one?
[10:22] <lord_crow> hi all
[10:22] <fangorious> caw
[10:22] <LattePiu> oh my got I ve just seen something of amazing :O http://s1.bitefight.it/c.php?uid=27557
[10:22] <carthik> Corsair: hal-device-manager
[10:23] <Corsair> ?
[10:23] <carthik> How do I get apt-get install the suggested and recommended packages for a package I request to be installed? Can I make it ask me if I want to install the suggested and recommended packages too?
[10:24] <fangorious> Corsair: who was that '?' to?
[10:24] <OmegaAlpha> whats shogo?
[10:24] <LattePiu> this: http://s1.bitefight.it/c.php?uid=27557
[10:24] <Corsair> ok, new question
[10:25] <Corsair> im using the PC with ubuntu for a NAS server
[10:25] <Corsair> i want the drive to be able to store information from other os's
[10:25] <Corsair> what format should i choose for the drive?
[10:26] <fangorious> Corsair: if it's going to be accessed over the network I would use ext3
[10:26] <Corsair> will other os's still be ok to store data onto it?
[10:26] <OmegaAlpha> Corsair, FAT32
[10:26] <fangorious> Corsair: then just share it with samba for windows machines, and nfs for linux machines
[10:26] <notos> its posible to upgrade from debian sarge to Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[10:27] <Corsair> its not letting me format it as fat32
[10:27] <mache> !windowsdrives
[10:27] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:27] <elkbuntu> Corsair, why would you want fat32?
[10:27] <fangorious> Corsair: as long as they understand the protocol you share it with, they don't care what FS type it has
[10:27] <Corsair> ok
[10:27] <fangorious> Corsair: what OSs are you sharing it to?
[10:27] <ChunkAhoy> if i have to use ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12        to configure my kernel but i cant use ./configure, how can i do the equivalent using    make menuconfig    ??
[10:27] <Corsair> XP home, pro, 98
[10:28] <fangorious> Corsair: just set it up with ext3 and share it with samba
[10:28] <Toma-> ChunkAhoy, what are you trying to build?
[10:28] <ChunkAhoy> im following the steps on this web site to install alsa on my Asus z63a laptop         http://wingware.com/support/asus_z63a_ubuntu_5.10
[10:29] <fangorious> Corsair: you can configure the shares with System->Administration->Shared Folders
[10:29] <Corsair> yea, i know
[10:29] <Corsair> i got samba to share a file earlier, but it didnt want to let me write to it
[10:29] <graveson> can anyone help ,just installed ubuntu breezy and cannot get to boot it up ,just hangs when logging onto the system from x windows
[10:30] <fangorious> graveson: after gdm starts, do you have to make a login attempt for it to hang?
[10:30] <ChunkAhoy> im trying to build linux-source-2.6.12
[10:30] <Toma-> ChunkAhoy, what is in the alsa directory that you just untarred? use pastebin
[10:30] <Toma-> !pastebin
[10:30] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:31] <ChunkAhoy> i havent started with the alsa drivers yet,  im only trying to configure my kernel so that it can suport my alsa drivers
[10:31] <Toma-> ChunkAhoy, well youre certainly not following this guide.
[10:32] <tritium> ChunkAhoy: do you need extremely new alsa source, or why are you going through all of that effort?
[10:32] <ChunkAhoy> ??
[10:32] <Toma-> ChunkAhoy, you dont need to build a kernel.
[10:32] <ChunkAhoy> thats what it says    lol   :)
[10:32] <Toma-> ChunkAhoy, are you READING this guide? or just copy and pasting the commands?
[10:32] <ChunkAhoy> i am reading it
[10:33] <Toma-> there is no step where you build a kernel.
[10:33] <ChunkAhoy> the problem is i dont really understand everything so i do all the commands he did
[10:34] <tritium> ChunkAhoy: you really shouldn't do that
[10:34] <Toma-> *sigh*
[10:35] <OmegaAlpha> benplaut, whats shogo? a vampire game?
[10:35] <ChunkAhoy> can you help me understand why hes using that command then ?       ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12
[10:35] <Toma-> ChunkAhoy, thats the command to compile alsa.
[10:36] <graveson> fangorius : yes i have to make a login attempt for it to hang
[10:36] <ChunkAhoy> oh damn,  ok
[10:36] <ChunkAhoy> think i got it now
[10:36] <ChunkAhoy> but i'll go to bed smarter....   if i ever go to bed
[10:36] <fangorious> graveson: after booting, but before trying to login, hit <control>+<alt>+<f1> to get a console, and try logging in there
[10:37] <ChunkAhoy> i was trying this whole configuration thing on the kernel
[10:37] <chromebuntu> hmm, jp.archive.ubuntu.com points to some server in the UK ... but so does *.archive... how ... annoying :)
[10:37] <OmegaAlpha> whats alsa?
[10:37] <ChunkAhoy> thank you for your help
[10:37] <fangorious> OmegaAlpha: advanced linux sound architecture
[10:37] <graveson> fangorius : i can boot into recocery mode and get a prompt ,let me try control-alt-f1
[10:39] <fangorious> graveson: i'm just wondering if there's something about the particular user account, since reconfiguring X didn't help you.
[10:39] <OmegaAlpha> fangorious, is that to add higher quality sounds or just a package of new ones?
[10:40] <graveson> fangorius : what is the default root password.when i installed ,i was not asked what the root passord would be .The reason being maybe i should create another user or login as root and see if that works
[10:40] <ablomen> graveson: same as your first user account
[10:41] <Madpilot> !tell graveson about sudo
[10:41] <fangorious> OmegaAlpha: it's the code in the kernel that interfaces with the sound hardware
[10:41] <dr-slizer> graveson: There is no root password, use sudo. If you want to set a root password, run sudo passwd
[10:41] <Corsair> how do i make it so I can write to the samba share
[10:41] <graveson> fangorius : control-alt-f1 works
[10:41] <Madpilot> graveson: see the URL the bot just sent you
[10:41] <mcphail> graveson: paste the result from ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[10:41] <OmegaAlpha> fangorious, oh why was chunk having to mess with that for
[10:42] <fangorious> Corsair: in the Shared Folders app, select a share and click Properties, then uncheck the read-only checkbox
[10:42] <fangorious> OmegaAlpha: don't know, maybe he wanted a newer version that what is provided
[10:42] <fangorious> graveson: after getting to the console, can you log in with the same account that hangs X?
[10:42] <Corsair> it is unchecked
[10:43] <graveson> yes i can ,i am logged in now
[10:43] <fangorious> Corsair: hm, is the share in the / partition?
[10:43] <mcphail> graveson: paste the result from ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[10:43] <fangorious> graveson: ^^
[10:43] <Corsair> im sharing /nas
[10:43] <Cryptid> !intel
[10:43] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cryptid
[10:44] <Cryptid> !915
[10:44] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cryptid
[10:44] <graveson> mcphail : i cannot paste it because i am on 2 different pc's ,is there anything in particular you would like to know
[10:44] <fangorious> Corsair: is /nas a separate disk/partition from /? (run 'mount' in a terminal to check)
[10:44] <mcphail> graveson: owner/group
[10:44] <graveson> mcphail : -rw-------
[10:44] <mcphail> graveson: if they are root, that is your problem
[10:45] <Corsair> its /dev/hdc1 mounted to /dev
[10:45] <fangorious> Corsair: mounted to /dev?
[10:45] <graveson> mcphail : i am not sure i understand ,can you explain please
[10:45] <Corsair> er /nas lol
[10:45] <Corsair> im getting tired ~.~
[10:46] <mcphail> graveson: does the command i mentioned above produce the word "root" anywhere?
[10:46] <fangorious> Corsair: does it say 'ro' or 'rw' in the output from mount on the line with /nas?
[10:46] <ablomen> Corsair: what are the permisions of the /nas folder?
[10:46] <fangorious> graveson: <perms> <owner> <group> <date> <filename>
[10:47] <Corsair> /dev/hdc1 on /nas type ext3 (rw)
[10:47] <graveson> mcphail : the owner and group is my user name
[10:47] <mcphail> graveson: ok, then that isn;t the problem
[10:47] <Corsair> how do i check the permissions on /nas
[10:47] <ablomen> Corsair: and what about folder permissions? (try "ls -l" on the / folder)
[10:47] <fangorious> Corsair: ls -ld /nas
[10:48] <Corsair> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2006-02-19 04:30 /nas
[10:48] <ablomen> Corsair: yeah the folder isnt writable for other people then the onwer of the folder
[10:49] <Corsair> how i fix dat
[10:49] <Corsair> lol
[10:49] <asterX_ba> hello guys!
[10:49] <graveson> mcphail : any ideas ?
[10:49] <fangorious> Corsair: the quickest way would be 'sudo chmod +w /nas'
[10:49] <OmegaAlpha> heh i dont understand this Bite Fightgame whatso ever
[10:49] <ablomen> Corsair: you can use "sudo chmod 777 /nas"
[10:50] <mcphail> graveson: not really. When it hangs, can you get back to a terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F2?
[10:50] <graveson> mcphail : no at that time i cannot do that
[10:50] <asterX_ba> how may I play WMV files on Firefox (Ubuntu) ?
[10:50] <fangorious> graveson: try 'sudo adduser fred' and 'sudo passwd fred', then hit <control>+<alt>+<f7> and log in as fred
[10:50] <fangorious> assuming you don't already have a user named fred
[10:52] <graveson> fangorious : ok hang on
[10:52] <fangorious> Corsair: assuming all the users on your linux box are in the 'users' group, you could also make the share writeable to the 'users' group, the 'chgrp users /nas' and 'chmod 775 /nas'
[10:52] <dibblego> I've just installed the NVidia driver - it's playing up a bit, oh well - what's the next step to have a dual display? I fiddle with xorg.conf, but is there a wiki entry for it?
[10:52] <pappan> how do i configure ubuntu to use dhcp ?
[10:52] <ablomen> Corsair: true thats more secure then "chmod 777"
[10:53] <fangorious> pappan: it should use dhcp by default, but you can go to System->Administration->Networking
[10:53] <Corsair> Samba is still shareing files after i removed them from the shared folders thing
[10:54] <fangorious> Corsair: 'sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart' might clear that up
[10:54] <Corsair> it corrected 1 problem
[10:54] <fangorious> pappan: in the Connections tab of "Network settings' select an interface, click on Properties, and set Configuration to DHCP
[10:55] <pappan> fangorious: thanks
[10:55] <Corsair> its still shareing 1 other file i dont want it to
[10:55] <pappan> i got it up
[10:55] <graveson> fangorious: same thing ,the whole system locks up
[10:56] <mcphail> graveson: can you ssh into the box?
[10:56] <fangorious> graveson: next time you boot, you could check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:56] <fangorious> Corsair: you can always check /etc/samba/smb.conf (text file) to hand edit the samba settings
[10:56] <graveson> mcphail: not at that point ,this is the first time after installing that i am trying to boot up
[10:56] <Corsair> wow, using VNC makes my ethernet card transfer lots of information ;x
[10:57] <fangorious> lol
[10:57] <graveson> fangorious : ok i will try login again to shell and look at that log
[10:57] <fangorious> well, it's long past my bed time. 'nite all, and good luck
[10:58] <pappan_> hi
[10:59] <pappan_> i logged in from ubuntu :)
[10:59] <mcphail> pappan_: congratulations. First time?
[10:59] <pappan_> yes using network for first time
[10:59] <pappan_> network thru ubuntu :)
[11:00] <krz_> does ubuntu come with a burning software?
[11:00] <pappan_> let me download some packages
[11:00] <dibblego> CD/DVD Creator
[11:00] <krz_> dibblego, is that for free?
[11:00] <dibblego> yes
[11:00] <Corsair> i see what its doing and i dont know how to make it stop, its shareing the default user login home directory
[11:01] <mcphail> krz_: you may want to install k3b
[11:01] <damian_> is that free.... ha ha
[11:01] <chromebuntu> Corsair: what is?
[11:01] <krz_> dibblego, do i have to apt-get install first?
[11:01] <Corsair> Samba
[11:01] <krz_> mcphail, im looking for one that i can use with my wm
[11:01] <damian_> get  nero for linux
[11:01] <krz_> so hopefully with a nice gui
[11:01] <ablomen> Corsair: check the /etc/samba/smb.comf file at the "Home dir" section
[11:01] <mcphail> krz_: k3b works well under GNOME
[11:02] <damian_> get  nero for linux
[11:02] <Corsair> it says [homes]  comment = Home Directories Browseable = no
[11:02] <Corsair> writable = no
[11:03] <Corsair> should i comment that crap out?
[11:03] <ablomen> Corsair: yeah thats the best thing to do
[11:04] <Corsair> that did it
[11:04] <Madpilot> krz: Nautilus - the Gnome file manager - does data & ISO burning nicely
[11:04] <ablomen> Corsair: ok thats good :)
[11:04] <ablomen> Corsair: any other problems with samba or whas that it?
[11:05] <Corsair> make it not show printers and faxes too ;x
[11:05] <krz_> Madpilot, i need to burn an ISO file onto cd. which will do a better job?
[11:05] <mcphail> krz_: the nautilus cd burner will be fine for that. Just right click on the .iso image
[11:05] <ablomen> Corsair: in the same file (smb.conf) there is a printer section too, just comment that too, should work
[11:05] <krz_> also, is it possible to use k3b with a different wm besides gnome? maybe with fluxbox?
[11:06] <Corsair> lol, yea, i just checked
[11:06] <graveson> anyone know what this is : drmopendevice : openfailed in Xorg.0.log.old
[11:06] <Toma-> krz, yep
[11:06] <mcphail> krz_: you won't have the nautilus cd burner under fluxbox, though
[11:06] <Corsair> im almost done @.@
[11:06] <ablomen> lol
[11:07] <alien9391> hi
[11:07] <ablomen> alien9391: hello
[11:07] <Corsair> fawk, printers and faxes came back
[11:07] <alien9391> i'd like to put up an ati driver
[11:07] <Corsair> die die die
[11:08] <krz_> mcphail, ok. i need to do this write since i only have one cdr with me. so i right-click the iso file and then burn to cd? that will burn the iso as an image file (i.e. bootable file)?
[11:08] <alien9391> and i have problems
[11:08] <JLiquorish> how do i create a .sh and run it as root?
[11:08] <mcphail> krz_: if you select "burn image" (or similar) under GNOME, yes
[11:08] <ablomen> Corsair: in the file, try uncommenting "load printers =" and change yes to no ;)
[11:09] <ablomen> alien9391: ok whats your problem?
[11:09] <Corsair> samba is pisssed
[11:09] <krz_> mcphail, the only option i have when i right-click is "write to disc"
[11:09] <ablomen> lol
[11:09] <krz_> mcphail, is that it?
[11:09] <Corsair> it wont even share what i want it to now
[11:09] <alien9391> aticonfig cannot fing some libfglrx.pp.so.1 or something like that
[11:09] <mcphail> krz_: that will do it. It should burn the image, rather than the .iso file
[11:09] <damian_> for this my fstab should look like?.....sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.6/media /mnt/media
[11:10] <Madpilot> krz_: k3b is a KDE app anyway, it looks like h*ll but it works well
[11:10] <Corsair> GOD
[11:10] <Corsair> im almost there
[11:10] <Corsair> but
[11:10] <pappan_> i am unable to get the universe packages
[11:10] <ablomen> Corsair: lol maybe you commented out to much? ;)
[11:10] <Corsair> every other time i click on the share
[11:10] <Corsair> printers and faxes comes in and goes awaya
[11:10] <Corsair> its like a surprise
[11:10] <alien9391> i've tried to put up a fglrx...something package but it clashes with something else
[11:10] <Corsair> will it be there or not
[11:11] <ablomen> Corsair: keeps it from being boring ;) did you change the "load printers" thing?
[11:11] <Corsair> yea i uncommented and typed no
[11:12] <ablomen> Corsair: and you did restart samba?..
[11:12] <krz_> mcphail, ok i did right-click -> "write to disc". a window pops up stating: "write disc to", then i have to options. 1) SONY DVD/RW DW-D56A or 2) file image
[11:12] <Corsair> yea after every change im restarting
[11:12] <krz_> which one of the 2 do i choose from?
[11:12] <mcphail> krz_: the first one
[11:12] <Corsair> GOD
[11:12] <Corsair> i keep getting excited, then its like HAHAHAHA
[11:12] <krz_> mcphail, thanks
[11:13] <ablomen> Corsair: whatch your bloodpreasure, try a reboot sometimes that works
[11:13] <Corsair> but it keeps taunting me ;-;
[11:13] <janno> Every 5 minute the firefox crash :S
[11:13] <ablomen> Corsair: dont take that personaly, it does that to everyone ;)
[11:13] <mcphail> janno: have you installed some extensions?
[11:13] <Corsair> i dont want a printer ;-;
[11:14] <_james> what's the command to find where i install my os, like hd0,6
[11:14] <ablomen> Corsair: lol just try a reboot ;)
[11:14] <alien9391> May i let alone this ati-driver thing ?
[11:15] <Corsair> ati + Linux = angry ;x
[11:15] <janno> mcphail: talkback 1.5, DOM inspector 1.8 and google toolbar for firefox
[11:15] <alien9391> :O(
[11:15] <Corsair> it took me 5 days to get my 9600XT working
[11:15] <alien9391> 
[11:15] <JLiquorish> can someone help me make a .sh and run it as root please?
[11:15] <alien9391> :D
[11:15] <ablomen> _james: type "mount" and see where "/" is mounted too
[11:15] <mcphail> janno: uninstall them and see if it works better
[11:15] <_james> whats the command to know the free space of my disk?
[11:15] <janno> i can only uninstall google toolbar :S
[11:16] <mcphail> JLiquorish: you want to make a shell script?
[11:16] <ablomen> _james: thats "free"
[11:16] <JLiquorish> yes
[11:16] <krz_> i was installing k3b. then stopped in the middle by pressing ctrl+c. is there a way to continue/resume to install from the point it stopped?
[11:16] <mcphail> JLiquorish: you just need to open up a text editor
[11:16] <JLiquorish> mcphail: I want to do this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/13/ubuntu-to-kubuntu-keeping-the-menus-clean/
[11:16] <Corsair> im really thinking i shoulda just bought a usb 2.0 external exclosure for this HD lol
[11:16] <_james> ablomen: what you mean free?
[11:17] <Gnumannen> I have some problem making partions in Ubuntu amd64 (from install CD), is it a common problem?
[11:17] <ablomen> _james: nevermind, you can see your free space by just entering your home dir
[11:17] <Corsair> what are you trying to do with ati drivers alien9391
[11:17] <ablomen> Corsair: gat them to work ;)
[11:17] <alien9391> i wanted to install it on
[11:17] <alien9391> and
[11:18] <Corsair> 64bit or 32
[11:18] <alien9391> sorry
[11:18] <alien9391> i wnated to play videos
[11:18] <mcphail> JLiquorish: you'd want to remove the "#" at the beginning of each line
[11:18] <alien9391> with fullscreen
[11:18] <Corsair> what kind of videos
[11:18] <_james> ablomen: but i want the command.. i forgot but there's something like -h i think.
[11:18] <mcphail> JLiquorish: and just stick it in a file
[11:18] <alien9391> wmv
[11:18] <alien9391> asf
[11:18] <xxenon> _james - df
[11:18] <alien9391> and so on
[11:18] <Corsair> hm
[11:18] <Corsair> do you need DRI for that?
[11:19] <JLiquorish> ok, do i include the $ and # before each line?
[11:19] <CoolKast> Hello, i am running apache2 with awstats. This worked fine yesterday but now it doesn't update via web. I also see that /var/log/apache2/access.log is now 0 kB ! While it was bigger yesterday. And now i also have access.log.1 and error.log and error.log.1 in that same directory. All are 0 bytes big... i don't get it anymore, when i view my page it normally should add a line to access.log but it doesn't!
[11:19] <Corsair> ;( /wave @ printers + Faxes
[11:19] <mcphail> JLiquorish: no. the "$" means normal user and "#" means root
[11:19] <alien9391> and mplayer does it, but there is no fullsceen and it isnt continuous (i think because of the lack of hardware-acelerating or something like that)
[11:19] <ablomen> _james: sorry i dont know a command for that, try google?
[11:20] <ablomen> Corsair: is it realy that bad? ;)
[11:20] <Corsair> yes, yes it is
[11:20] <JLiquorish> mcphail: which bits do i put in my text editor?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8850
[11:20] <mcphail> JLiquorish: you don't actually need to make a file at all. Just enter the commands as written in a terminal
[11:20] <JLiquorish> i get errors when i do it in the terminal
[11:20] <mcphail> JLiquorish: what errors?
[11:20] <Corsair> 32bit or 64bit alien9391
[11:20] <JLiquorish> let me check
[11:20] <alien9391> 32
[11:20] <bigfoot1> what program can play a .pls file from server www.live365.com?
[11:21] <pappan_> i have sound problem in ubuntu
[11:21] <pappan_> all the modules are loaded
[11:21] <mcphail> JLiquorish: I think you could leave off the backslashes at the ends of the lines as well
[11:21] <pappan_> but not sure what is causing it not to play any sound
[11:21] <ablomen> Corsair: take a good look in your smb.conf again and just comment evereything that theven remotly looks like it hase something to do with printers ;)
[11:22] <Corsair> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466
[11:22] <JLiquorish> bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'done'
[11:22] <alien9391> Corsair: a friend of mine says that i may have to doing something with kernel, but i may not do that as a newbie
[11:22] <Corsair> alien9391: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466
[11:22] <alien9391> thx
[11:22] <Corsair> that worked for me
[11:22] <alien9391> thx
[11:23] <CoolKast> can anyone take a look at my test site so i can see whether awstats sees it? http://toon.selfip.net
[11:23] <mcphail> JLiquorish: leave off the backslashes
[11:23] <janno> Cool :D taskbar or whatever crashed :D
[11:24] <ablomen> n00bmaste: lol like the win 3.1 expantion thing?
[11:24] <n00bmaste> yep
[11:24] <JLiquorish> mcphail: OnlyShowIn=GNOME
[11:24] <JLiquorish> bash: : command not found
[11:24] <n00bmaste> I am going to stick it on my opteron
[11:25] <ablomen> n00bmaste: lol that is just to funny, shame they stoped making that would be finaly a funny app from m$ ;)
[11:25] <protron> hello. how to ubuntu?
[11:25] <protron> please excuse i am not the english
[11:26] <Stargazers> Ok.
[11:26] <isa_> hi all
[11:26] <damian_> how do i make ubuntu do a sudo startx on startup
[11:26] <ablomen> n00bmaste: i think it isnt realy opteron proof ;) would run fast tough
[11:26] <mcphail> JLiquorish: one moment
[11:26] <chromebuntu> damian_: uh, if you want to log in as root, set a root password and then log in as root :P
[11:26] <holycow> damian_, what do you mean? why are you doing that? why not just install gdm and let that do everything for you?
[11:27] <isa_> i'm using breezy and i can't add program shortcuts on the desktop : it says i "cannot copy the file to the trashcan"
[11:27] <n00bmaste> sudo passwd
[11:27] <n00bmaste> lol
[11:27] <damian_> so i cans et up a root account
[11:27] <isa_> and ... is it possible to have amarok in french (while still using gnome) ?
[11:27] <JLiquorish> i think it worked mcphail
[11:27] <thedadio> hi there im new to ubuntu,m iva managed to install it and can get to prompt, but how do i load the gui?
[11:27] <chromebuntu> damian_: root exists, it just has a scrambled password. 'sudo passwd root'
[11:27] <holycow> damian_, wtf?
[11:27] <pappan_> how do i enable sound in ubuntu ?
[11:27] <isa_> can anyone help me ?
[11:28] <JLiquorish> i typed done and it now just shows root@........ etc.
[11:28] <ablomen> isa_: sure if you donwload the french lang files
[11:28] <crimsun> pappan_: it's enabled automatically unless your hardware isn't recognised, why?
[11:28] <pappan_> yes
[11:28] <pappan_> i guess the hardware is not recognized
[11:28] <holycow> damian_, what chromebuntu, please try to resolve issues sanely.
[11:28] <pappan_> but how do i solve it
[11:28] <crimsun> pappan_: what type of sound card is it?
[11:28] <holycow> damian_, never mind the fact that you shouldn't need to setup a pass for root, as its idiotic
[11:28] <pappan_> crimsun, let me chk it
[11:28] <isa_> ablomen, you mean kde-i18n-fr?
[11:29] <Corsair> ;( i hate you printers
[11:29] <ablomen> isa_: and the desktop shortcut thing, try going to the app in the main menu and right-click => add launcher to pannel
[11:29] <damian_> done
[11:29] <damian_> i can log in as root permanently now
[11:29] <mcphail> JLiquorish: stick this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8851 in a text file and save it as "before.sh"
[11:29] <thedadio> what do i type to start gnome?
[11:29] <holycow> damian_, why are you logging in as root?
[11:29] <holycow> damian_, that is extremely unsafe
[11:29] <chromebuntu> damian_: its a really bad idea to use X as root permanently.
[11:29] <ablomen> isa_: i dont know for shure, i think amarok has its own lang files two
[11:29] <isa_> ablomen, yeah, it's adds them to the panel but not to the desktop
[11:29] <damian_> i always have
[11:29] <Madpilot> !root
[11:29] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:29] <damian_> why is it a bad idea
[11:30] <damian_> im not stupid and ive never ahd problems otherwise
[11:30] <holycow> damian_, think windows, everyone runs as root, everyone gets automatically hosed
[11:30] <ablomen> isa_: thats strange, works for me
[11:30] <chromebuntu> damian_: Ubuntu is designed to work without needing root privileges in the GUI. You can log in as a normal user and do everything like mount devices and play audio without root.
[11:30] <holycow> damian_, you should always run as restricted user, and only access root via sudo
[11:30] <pappan_> crimsun, ne idea where i can chk it
[11:30] <crimsun> pappan_: pastebin output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[11:30] <Corsair> its basicly so you dont get owned
[11:30] <JLiquorish> mcphail: it worked, i just did ` instead of ' that was the error
[11:30] <chromebuntu> damian_: when you need a root shell, just do a 'sudo su -' in a terminal window, or a 'sudo bash'.
[11:30] <damian_> why though
[11:30] <thegladiator> guys want a beautiful wallpaper ? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28869076/
[11:30] <damian_> whats the problem tehre?
[11:30] <isa_> ablomen, used to work here too
[11:30] <mcphail> JLiquorish: yes. the ` means "execute this statement"
[11:30] <thedadio> please help me!! i dont know how to start the gui!!
[11:31] <katie_bites> hey can someone tell me which version of ubuntu i need to download?
[11:31] <thegladiator> i hope you guys enjoy it , I really liked it
[11:31] <Corsair> Microsoft is starting to use that for vista
[11:31] <Tomcat_> katie_bites: Depends on what you want. :)
[11:31] <JLiquorish> thank you for you help mcphail =D
[11:31] <ablomen> isa_: well sorry i have to go away, ask somebody els to help you, sorry and good luck ;)
[11:31] <mcphail> JLiquorish: np
[11:31] <chromebuntu> damian_: if there is a buffer overflow in ANY of the software that you use, and it is exploited, the exploit has instant root privileges. For example, many plugins for browsers are not safe to run as root.
[11:31] <Tomcat_> katie_bites: There's ubuntu (gnome), kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, and then either live or install...
[11:31] <thedadio> i beg
[11:31] <holycow> damian_, because when you run as root all commands are run as root.  most commands don't need root access.  the problem is that eventually you will simply get rooted when you try to be too clever.
[11:31] <isa_> ablomen, thanks anyway :)
[11:31] <holycow> infact its virtually guaranteed that someone will pWn j00 if your doing what your doing
[11:32] <thedadio> Anyuone?
[11:32] <chromebuntu> damian_: another example was some image decoders had buffer overflows - simply LOOKING at a jpeg was enough for the exploit to work.
[11:32] <chromebuntu> damian_: so in summary, dont do it.
[11:32] <Tomcat_> thedadio: If you have a regular install, use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:32] <katie_bites> i ment power pc or live i dont know which one i need to be compatible with my system
[11:32] <orangehaw> hi all. Is there a gnome tool available with which i can have my hp3015 shared through the network? And i don't mean the cups manager through browser
[11:32] <lesshaste> how easy it to upgrade from one ubuntu version to another?
[11:32] <thedadio> Tomcat: is that what i type at the prompt?
[11:33] <crimsun> lesshaste: pretty straightforward.
[11:33] <Tomcat_> thedadio: Yes.
[11:33] <pappan_> crimsun, i cannot find amixer
[11:33] <thegladiator> guys loved this wallpaper ? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28869076/ ?
[11:33] <crimsun> pappan_: are you executing those commands in a Terminal?
[11:33] <lesshaste> crimsun: no reinstall needed right?
[11:33] <crimsun> lesshaste: correct
[11:33] <pappan_> yes
[11:33] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Anyone know how to change the permissions on an NTFS mounted drive?
[11:33] <damian_> fair enough now ive creatred the account i can just ignore it and work as usual?
[11:33] <pappan_> i did cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:33] <Corsair> all my work today for this http://home.comcast.net/~Vash_T_Stampede/meh.JPG lol
[11:33] <lesshaste> crimsun: excellent! :) Am about to switch to ubuntu you see... but never want to reinstall again
[11:34] <Tomcat_> djs_2_6: You can't.
[11:34] <crimsun> pappan_: lsb_release -r
[11:34] <thedadio> thanks mate!!
[11:34] <holycow> damian_, you had access to root anyway, when you run a command with 'sudo thiscommand' that would run as root anyway
[11:34] <Tomcat_> djs_2_6: NTFS has a vastly different rights system than Linux, so I doubt it's possible.
[11:34] <jetscreamer> does the ubuntu /etc/sudoers really say ALL=ALL ?
[11:34] <Corsair> somehow, i dont think its worth it
[11:34] <holycow> damian_, what you did essentially was really dumb
[11:34] <crimsun> jetscreamer: for what stanza?
[11:34] <pappan_> i am on breezy badger 5.10
[11:34] <bimberi> jetscreamer: for members of the 'admin' group yes
[11:34] <djs_2_6> Tomcat_ - I remember reading somewhere that you could, but it was really dangerous...
[11:34] <jetscreamer> ah thx
[11:34] <holycow> damian_, try to run as the default account you created at install if you can, you will be safer
[11:35] <alien9391> I've just installed up a kylix, and i need to restart x. How shall i do that with ubuntu?
[11:35] <thedadio> okay next thing, ive reinstalled it many time on the same drive, but now during the install process, some parts of install fail
[11:35] <crimsun> pappan_: ``which amixer''
[11:35] <pappan_> crimsun, /usr/bin/amixer
[11:35] <holycow> alien9391, ctrl/alt/backspace, or logout and log back in
[11:35] <alien9391> thx
[11:35] <crimsun> pappan_: so use that
[11:35] <dagoba> i have a question about security, i am behind a router/firewall. i think thats pretty safe. however, i would like to scan my computer once in a while. is there any good application for that?
[11:35] <thedadio> whats the best WAY TO WIPE THE DRIVE?
[11:36] <crimsun> dagoba: nmapfe
[11:36] <mcphail> dagoba: clamav
[11:36] <jetscreamer> dagoba: you could go to grc.com for a web solution
[11:36] <dagoba> thanks guys
[11:36] <mcphail> dagoba: portscan or virus scan?
[11:36] <holycow> dagoba, the problem with your question is 'what are you scanning for'.   you can scan for viruses, rootkits, trojans, you can employ lockdown techniques, you can try installing adamntix
[11:36] <dagoba> i would like to scan for all of them :)
[11:37] <lesshaste> is there an amd64 channel for ubuntu?
[11:37] <crimsun> lesshaste: no
[11:37] <lesshaste> It is waaay too crowded in here :)
[11:37] <lesshaste> crimsun: :(
[11:37] <crimsun> lesshaste: (this one fields amd64 questions, too)
[11:37] <pappan> sorry
[11:37] <pappan> crimsun, i am back
[11:37] <mcphail> lesshaste: yes, but it keeps breaking :)
[11:37] <r0d> lol lesshaste crowded
[11:37] <r0d> lesshaste, crowed = more help;)
[11:37] <lesshaste> mcphail: breaking? how so?
[11:37] <xxenon> Corsair - I can see F.E.A.R on your desktop, is it good ?
[11:38] <lesshaste> r0d: you would hope.. but in fact people can only see questions asked in the last 30 seconds :)
[11:38] <crimsun> pappan: did you paste onto pastebin what I asked for?
[11:38] <mcphail> lesshaste: joking
[11:38] <lesshaste> mcphail: ah.. sorry :)
[11:38] <holycow> dagoba, i'm not sure what to suggest frankly, not standard protocol for doing this exists.
[11:39] <pappan> crimsun, yes it is there now
[11:39] <dagoba> holycow: ok
[11:39] <krz_> whats the package for codecs?
[11:40] <krz_> divx, xvid, etc
[11:40] <holycow> w32codecs
[11:40] <u|qos> where to put the config of self-compiled programms? perhaps in /usr/local/etc or something like that? seld-compiled apps even goes to /usr/local/bin ...
[11:40] <PuGz> hey guys
[11:40] <crimsun> pappan: I need amixer output
[11:40] <krz_> im supposed to download this manually right?
[11:40] <PuGz> can u install the live cds of flight4 to the hdd once u have had a look?
[11:40] <jetscreamer> !cyberphunk
[11:40] <ubotu> jetscreamer: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:40] <jetscreamer> or whatever
[11:40] <holycow> !w32codecs
[11:40] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:40] <pappan> krz, w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:41] <mcphail> u|qos: the beauty of a self compiled prog is you can put it wherever you like
[11:41] <pappan> crimsun, whats the command i have to run ? is it just amixer or any command line parameter also ?
[11:41] <crimsun> pappan: it's amixer. I gave you the command above.
[11:43] <pappan> crimsun, done
[11:43] <crimsun> pappan: unmute 'Front' and increase its level
[11:44] <djs_2_6> Tomcat_ - How about formatting over an NTFS drive.  Can that be done?
[11:44] <crimsun> pappan: your PCM level is also set very low. Increase it.
[11:44] <u|qos> mcphail: makes it sense to create /usr/local/etc and put it there?
[11:45] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, can you format over an NTFS partition?
[11:46] <holycow> djs_2_6, yes
[11:46] <krz_> ok i installed w32codecs. i still cant play vedeos
[11:46] <djs_2_6> How might I go about doing that...?
[11:47] <pappan> crimsun, i guess u r refering to Simple Mixer Control "Front" right ?
[11:47] <crimsun> pappan: yes
[11:47] <pappan> how do i do it command line ?
[11:47] <crimsun> pappan: amixer sset 'Front' on
[11:47] <krz_> anyone know why?
[11:48] <Unicorn_Giggles> brb, testing new usplash
[11:48] <pappan> crimsun, let me test it
[11:48] <djs_2_6> krz_ - What player are you using?  What type of video are you trying to play?
[11:48] <krz_> djs_2_6, an avi file. using the player that came with gnome
[11:48] <Tomcat_> djs_2_6: No idea.
[11:49] <djs_2_6> krz_ - And it's name is...?
[11:49] <crimsun> pappan: you have to turn it up, too. It's set to 0, which is the minimum level.
[11:50] <krz_> djs_2_6, its a movie downloaded form the internet
[11:51] <u|qos> mcphail: makes it sense to create /usr/local/etc and put it there?
[11:51] <djs_2_6> krz_ - I want the name of the player.  Are the w32codecs the only thing you have installed?
[11:51] <krz_> djs_2_6, yeap just w32codecs. the name of the player is totem movie player?
[11:52] <krz_> djs_2_6, should i use mplayer?
[11:53] <djs_2_6> krz_ - Did you follow the instructions here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:53] <pappan> crimsun, thanks a lot!!!!!!
[11:53] <pappan> crimsun, finally my ubuntu is speaking :D
[11:53] <crimsun> pappan: np.
[11:53] <ali> what the meaning of "Install in OEM mode"?
[11:54] <krz_> djs_2_6, yeap
[11:55] <krz_> djs_2_6, so i would need mplayer of any other player that supports w32codecs right?
[11:56] <Corsair> is there a way to make it so accessing the samba share requires no passwords?
[11:57] <u|qos> mcphail: makes it sense to create /usr/local/etc and put it there?
[11:57] <krz_> djs_2_6, am i doing anything wrong?
[11:58] <djs_2_6> krz_ - Do you have any idea what codec the file uses?  Do you have libxvicore4 installed?
[11:58] <pappan> crimsun, also i am facing one problem with mount ntfs disks
[11:58] <pappan> crimsun, do u have to help me
[11:59] <krz_> djs_2_6, yea its using the divx codec
[11:59] <krz_> djs_2_6, i dont have livxvicore4 installed
[11:59] <krz_> should i install that?
[11:59] <crimsun> pappan: are you mounting the NTFS partition with umask=022,nls=utf8?
[11:59] <Andragon> please can any one help me where to find table whit HorizSync and VertRefresh of my monitor daewoo 521B ? some site ?
[11:59] <brice__> salut
[12:00] <djs_2_6> krz_ - It wouldn't hurt...
[12:00] <pappan> no idea let me chk fstab
[12:00] <brice__> hello
[12:00] <OmegaAlpha> how do you copy a file from one directory to another in terminal?
[12:01] <Corsair> cp
[12:01] <krz_> man apt-get is becoming quite annoying
[12:01] <OmegaAlpha> Corsair, cp /path/of/file
[12:01] <krz_> where do i find libxvicore4 ?
[12:02] <ArtVandalae> Krhis, Blasphemy!
[12:02] <Corsair> hm?
[12:02] <djs_2_6> krz_ - Open a terminal, copy this - sudo apt-get install libxvidcore4
[12:02] <OmegaAlpha> Corsair, hit enter by accident. cp /path/of/file /path/of/new/dir' ?
[12:02] <pappan> crimsun, i hav pastebin
[12:02] <Corsair> yah
[12:02] <OmegaAlpha> thanks
[12:03] <Corsair> np
[12:03] <nik> hello, i have just tried to install the new dapper drake flight 4, which was probably overambitious for me, and i can't get into GNOME as X11 won't start up... what can i do? if anyone can help..
[12:03] <redblade> hi all
[12:03] <crimsun> pappan: please tell me the url; I'm extremely busy
[12:03] <krz_> djs_2_6, ok i hear audio. but dont see vedeo
[12:03] <Toma-> !dapper
[12:03] <ubotu> dapper is, like, totally, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[12:03] <pappan> crimsun, there is no umask there
[12:04] <crimsun> pappan: then you need to pass umask=022
[12:04] <redblade> I was here earlier looking for some info on my webserver
[12:04] <djs_2_6> krz_ - Try installing xine
[12:04] <redblade> but I've been having some trouble
[12:04] <robbie_> hi, I want apt-get to install the dependencies for kdebase
[12:04] <pappan> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8858
[12:04] <robbie_> then install kdebase
[12:04] <pappan> crimsun, ok thanks
[12:04] <robbie_> can it do all that with a single command?
[12:04] <redblade> I have a website running *I think* but I can't edit it
[12:04] <pappan> crimsun, i got the idea i will try to get corrected today night
[12:04] <pappan> crimsun, thanks a lot
[12:05] <ArtVandalae> robbie_, yes apt is powerful
[12:05] <redblade> or at least I don't know where the source file is for it
[12:05] <krz_> djs_2_6, apt-get install xine ?
[12:05] <robbie_> what would that command be? I cant see anything in apt-get --help
[12:05] <Alexi5> hello
[12:05] <iocaste> hi
[12:05] <djs_2_6> krz_ - Open a terminal, copy this - sudo apt-get install gxine
[12:05] <krz_> ok
[12:07] <cppnewbie> hello
[12:07] <iocaste> I'm having trouble getting sound working on a Toshiba Portege 4010 with a Ali 5451 audio chipset...
[12:08] <cppnewbie> im a real noob at linux and i was told to get ubuntu. however at the installation when looking at the hdds and setting on which one ubuntu will be installed i face a certain problem. can anyone help?
[12:08] <iocaste> i've found lots of info on getting sound working my turning off 'jack sense' in alsamixer...
[12:08] <djs_2_6> cppnewbie - What is the problem?
[12:08] <iocaste> however, i can't see jack sense in alsamixer... so how do i turn it off?
[12:08] <cppnewbie> djs_2_6 maybe if i present a picture first it will be easier for everyone in here to understand.
[12:09] <bimberi> robbie_: sudo apt-get install kdebase   <- will install kdebase and any uninstalled dependencies
[12:09] <cppnewbie> http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mysystem8gt.jpg c how my system while using windows is.
[12:09] <crimsun> iocaste: did you scroll to the right using the right arrow? You can also use amixer.
[12:10] <cppnewbie> when u look at it and see how my system right now is i can continue to describe the situation
[12:10] <iocaste> crimsun: yep pretty sure I scrolled all the way to the right
[12:10] <crimsun> iocaste: then use amixer.
[12:10] <djs_2_6> cppnewbie - Continue...
[12:10] <Alexi5> are there any gui utility to administer mysql server
[12:11] <kiLLer> im LoSt.
[12:11] <thegladiator> sorry kiLLer
[12:11] <kiLLer> i think i need Some heLp thegLadiatoR!
[12:12] <ArtVandalae> Is there going to be a graphical installer for 6.04?
[12:12] <thegladiator> ask way kiLLer
[12:12] <cppnewbie> well. when i insert the disk to install, when i have to choose the drives, my c: disk is called sda and my d: and e: is called sdb. well when i try to change the settings on d: where i want ubuntu installed, it says its gonna remove the stuff thats in sdb, not only in d: part. i assume its gotta do with my noobiness, however it would be better to be safe than sorry
[12:13] <kiLLer> thegLadiatoR im SeaRChing foR a SeRveR that i Can Speak RuSSian!u know wheRe i Can find one ?
[12:13] <kiLLer> im not goot at eng.
[12:13] <OmegaAlpha> how do you move back one directory in terminal?
[12:13] <iocaste> amixer | grep "Jack Sense" returns nothing. should it?
[12:13] <thegladiator> someone help kiLLer lol
[12:13] <dsas> OmegaAlpha: "cd .."
[12:13] <thegladiator> ubuntu has russian channel ?
[12:14] <djs_2_6> !russian
[12:14] <ubotu> djs_2_6: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:14] <thegladiator> !rus
[12:14] <ubotu> thegladiator: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:14] <crimsun> iocaste: It depends on your chipset. Pastebin amixer output.
[12:14] <kiLLer> yep..
[12:14] <iocaste> crimsun: sorry new here. where's the pastebin?
[12:14] <dsas> #ubuntu-ru
[12:14] <crimsun> !tell iocaste about pastebin
[12:14] <thegladiator> kiLLer, try #ubuntu-ru
[12:15] <kiLLer> thegLadiatoR thnX ..
[12:15] <janno> Do i can play games with xine?
[12:15] <kiLLer> i iineveR foRget uR waSting time to heLp me!
[12:15] <cppnewbie> guys is there a greek channel for ubuntu?
[12:15] <thegladiator> xine is  amedia player
[12:15] <ideafix> how can i tell if a *.deb file is for use with debian or ubuntu ?
[12:16] <n00bmaste> ubuntu=debian
[12:16] <djs_2_6> !greek
[12:16] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, djs_2_6
[12:16] <ablomen> ideafix: you can just try them if it isnt for ubuntu you just get a dependecie error
[12:16] <ideafix> ubuntu!=debian
[12:16] <thegladiator> he doesnt know english but he knows how to be thankful  kiLLer: i iineveR foRget uR waSting time to heLp me1
[12:16] <cppnewbie> nothing there
[12:17] <iocaste> crimsun: pasted.
[12:17] <ideafix> i would like to know that beforehand
[12:17] <cppnewbie> there is a channel posted however no one is in
[12:17] <ablomen> ideafix: if it doesnt give you errors it doesnt mather
[12:17] <djs_2_6> cppnewbie - Try reading this and see if it helps...  http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[12:18] <Alexi5> does anyone here do any php in ubuntu
[12:18] <ablomen> Alexi5: jup
[12:18] <ablomen> Alexi5: problems?
[12:19] <redblade> I need help urgently something has happened and I don't know how to fix it
[12:19] <cppnewbie> it partially helps djs_2_6
[12:19] <redblade> An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-terminal. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[12:19] <redblade> and all my files look different
[12:20] <Alexi5> i want to know what is a good editor that i can use just for php
[12:20] <ablomen> Alexi5: screem is great
[12:20] <cppnewbie> there its only one hard disk. however here there r 2 disks, with the 2nd partitioned, resulting to 3. when i try to install to the second partition it tells me it will edit sdb and remove its contents. this doesnt affect the 3rd partition of the disk? cuz there it says it will edit all of sdb, not just the 1 out of 2 partitions
[12:20] <iocaste> Alexi5: learn emacs :)
[12:22] <hardstyl0r> reboot brb
[12:22] <Alexi5> do you know of any good emacs tutorials
[12:22] <redblade> Is there a way to fix this?
[12:22] <krz_> djs_2_6, ok seems to work with xine
[12:22] <redblade> I think I may have deleted some important files
[12:22] <ablomen> Alexi5: yeah e-macs should be good to, dont know myselfe, but i know screem is easyer.. a gui ;)
[12:23] <krz_> how do you install mplayer?
[12:23] <ablomen> krz_: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:23] <ablomen> krz_: or synaptics..
[12:24] <Alexi5> what is screem
[12:24] <iocaste> Alexi5: http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=359
[12:24] <krz_> it says You should explicitly select one to install.
[12:24] <krz_> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[12:24] <ideafix> do you think that donating $$ to freenode would get me unbaned from some channels ?
[12:24] <ablomen> Alexi5: its a good html/php/perl etc editor, a little like dreamweaver but not wyciwug stuff
[12:24] <redblade> Please help I'm kinda stuck
[12:25] <djs_2_6> krz_ - sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[12:25] <Alexi5> ok
[12:25] <chromebuntu> woohoo! I got XGL working :D
[12:25] <chromebuntu> now if I could just turn off these stupid wobbly windows
[12:26] <Croperz> hooray for chromebuntu!
[12:26] <Croperz> you can
[12:26] <Croperz> gconf-editor
[12:26] <Croperz> apps>compiz>all windows
[12:26] <Croperz> active plugins
[12:26] <chromebuntu> aha got it
[12:26] <chromebuntu> thanks
[12:27] <cppnewbie> so is it safe to do all that or i should check it out l8r ?
[12:27] <Croperz> :)
[12:27] <cppnewbie> anyone that could help me with this one?
[12:27] <ablomen> cppnewbie: with what?
[12:27] <chromebuntu> ooh, this is very very nice. I could use this.
[12:27] <redblade> so what have I donr wrong?
[12:27] <Alexi5> screem looks good
[12:27] <cppnewbie> referred to it before man. lemem say it again
[12:27] <ablomen> cppnewbie: sorry mised your question
[12:28] <Croperz> don't press shift-delete chromebuntu :)
[12:28] <ablomen> Alexi5: its great, works realy nice
[12:28] <cppnewbie> ablomen: http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mysystem8gt.jpg this is how my system is right now using windows.
[12:28] <krz_> whats a good mp3 player
[12:28] <redblade> the terminal has gone yellow, the folders look retarded and when I open computer, there is only file systems. nothing else!!!!
[12:28] <krz_> not so heavy
[12:28] <redblade> Xmms
[12:28] <ideafix> anyone using konversation ?
[12:28] <redblade> krz_
[12:29] <redblade> xmms
[12:29] <cppnewbie> i wanna install ubuntu on d as u c it there
[12:29] <cppnewbie> *d:
[12:29] <ccc_> krz_: beep-media-player
[12:29] <chromebuntu> Croperz: you know if this will make it into Dapper official release?
[12:29] <ablomen> cppnewbie: that isnt going to work
[12:29] <redblade> so what is wrong with ubuntu??
[12:29] <Croperz> i'll hazard a guess of no
[12:29] <redblade> have I fucked it up badly?
[12:29] <cppnewbie> so what do i need to do? ablomen
[12:30] <ablomen> cppnewbie: you need to partition the second disk again in ubuntu, other filesystem
[12:30] <redblade> An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for Nautilus. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[12:30] <krz_> xmms just froze on me
[12:30] <ccc_> krz_: heavier, but the best player ever, is amarok :)
[12:30] <redblade> these errors keep coming up!!!
[12:30] <cppnewbie> before i partitioned it with norton partition magic ablomen
[12:30] <redblade> please help
[12:31] <redblade> SOMEBODY?!?!?!?!
[12:31] <adub> ccc_ krz: the best player even is xmms working
[12:31] <adub> lol
[12:31] <cppnewbie> so i just remerge it with the rest of the disk and format it through ubuntu?
[12:31] <redblade> I need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:31] <ablomen> cppnewbie: yeah thats the best option you need a ext3 and swap disk for ubuntu
[12:31] <cppnewbie> what about ext2 ablomen
[12:31] <ccc_> adub: perhaps it was like 8 years ago ;)
[12:31] <chromebuntu> Croperz: whats gonna happen when I run an opengl app in it?
[12:31] <cppnewbie> thats what i tried with debian but it wouldnt install :S
[12:31] <chromebuntu> :)
[12:32] <ablomen> cppnewbie: you should use ext3..
[12:32] <cppnewbie> ok then
[12:32] <mysling> ccc_:  amorak is great, except for all the spontanious crashes
[12:32] <cppnewbie> so my first step is remerging the disks through partition magic?
[12:32] <adub> ccc_  naw i still use it......for playing music its the best hands down and it has a better interface than anything else
[12:32] <redblade> please, somebody help me restore my system
[12:32] <ablomen> cppnewbie: ubuntu can partition the second disk for you
[12:32] <Croperz> it will probably runs slowly or not run at all chromebuntu
[12:32] <thegladiator> i like xmms its fast and takes no time to load
[12:32] <chromebuntu> Croperz: yup, glxgears is a no show heh
[12:32] <ccc_> mysling: i haven't a crash in months, not with the > 1.3.8 versions
[12:32] <thegladiator> amarok takes 2-3 seconds toload
[12:33] <thegladiator> load*
[12:33] <Croperz> you might have problems with video too
[12:33] <ablomen> cppnewbie: just use the ubuntu installer, its realy easy
[12:33] <redblade> Will someone please answer me?
[12:33] <ccc_> but yes, it's heavier than beep etc.
[12:33] <krz_> the righ-click menu in mplayer is so ugly
[12:33] <thegladiator> but once amarok is up and running it works very well atleast with me
[12:33] <ablomen> cppnewbie: just dont tuch the windows partition ;)
[12:33] <giftnudel> gnome-power-manager does not receive the lid event although there actually is one (as the acpid log shows). Where can I find out what the problem is?
[12:33] <cppnewbie> k
[12:33] <adub> krz   if you are downloading the one via apt-get from the repositories and it crashes on you could be cause your choosing the wrong sound driver by default xmms chooses oss
[12:33] <Croperz> i can't help much redblade
[12:33] <thegladiator> krz_, I use the command line version , you can use the arrow keys
[12:33] <redblade> I found this error on the web
[12:34] <thegladiator> krz, etc , its more convenient and works better when run from command line
[12:34] <krz_> adlr, and how would you select the format?
[12:34] <mysling> ccc_:  the default version that comes with kubuntu breezy is very unstable anyways.. but the blue pop-ups telling which song is being played is a nice feature :>
[12:34] <redblade> but It was people who had used KDE then GNOME!
[12:34] <adub> krz_  try checking there first and if that isnt it try downloading the one off of xmms website.......the one that is the latest   and compile from source
[12:34] <redblade> I've never used KDE!
[12:34] <cppnewbie> wait ablomen lemme show u my real problem
[12:34] <thegladiator> krz_, you acn change the skins of mplayer thought but I suggest use the command line stuff
[12:34] <ablomen> cppnewbie: ok
[12:34] <krz_> thegladiator, im more productive with anything gui
[12:34] <jimcooncat> redblade: only way I would know would be to purge nautilus and reinstall, but you'd lose any settings you've made
[12:35] <adub> i have used kde and gnome.....
[12:35] <thegladiator> krz_, believe me I used to feel the same coming from XP , but once I stated using this command line stuff it just got better
[12:35] <ccc_> mysling: yes, that's 1.3.1, that version sucks. but it's easy to add the latest stable repo, or even use the svn via klik.
[12:35] <ablomen> adub: poor you :P
[12:35] <mwe> Does anyone know of an alternative to enscript that supports unicode?
[12:35] <thegladiator> krz_, you can ofcourse set it to work from nautilus by double click , just give use custom command -> mplayer
[12:35] <redblade> any nautilus settings?
[12:35] <krz_> thegladiator, i used linux 3-4 years ago. i thought things would be different now
[12:35] <redblade> or any settings at all?
[12:35] <mysling> ccc_:  how does it work in gnome..?
[12:35] <thegladiator> i dont like GUI of mplayer , i.e gmplayer
[12:35] <krz_> seems like linux still needs a lot of catching up
[12:35] <adub> ablomen yeahhhhhh right kde is the most used desktop environment  by linux users for a reason
[12:35] <thegladiator> krz_, i am the same category .
[12:35] <mehmet> hello all
[12:36] <ablomen> adub: lol chill just kiddin ;)
[12:36] <thegladiator> krz_, but I like it now , command line doesnt mean you have to always go to command line and do it , atleast foe mplayer
[12:36] <ccc_> mysling: if you have the kde components it shouldn't be a problem. i run kde though.
[12:36] <jimcooncat> redblade: any nautilus settings, but they cover a lot of the environment
[12:36] <adub> ablomen .......lol.......sorry just woke up a  lot of people try to start the kde gnome war with me in here it seems sometimes
[12:36] <redblade> that's ok
[12:36] <thegladiator> krz_, , since you can set "use custom command and give mplayer and not gmplayer
[12:36] <djs_2_6> Hey, does anyone know how to clone hard drive to hard drive?
[12:36] <redblade> just please tell me how
[12:36] <UberKop> anyone using konversation ?
[12:36] <mysling> ccc_:  okay :>.. Just got Xgl installed and working.. Im trying not to take any chances :p
[12:36] <ccc_> UberKop: yes
[12:36] <adub> UberKop I am
[12:37] <thegladiator> tru mplayer first and keys are like up down side keys pg up pg down
[12:37] <adub> UberKop are you a cop
[12:37] <ccc_> mysling: hehe ok :)
[12:37] <ablomen> adub: lol you cant go against taste, you wont get anny shit from me ;)
[12:37] <thegladiator> try*
[12:37] <redblade> jimcooncat, how do I purge nautilus?
[12:37] <redblade> and then reinstall it?
[12:37] <UberKop> are *YOU* a cop ?
[12:37] <UberKop> adub:  are *YOU* a cop ?
[12:37] <jimcooncat> redblade: hang on, I'm checking it out on my system so I don't tell you wrong things. patience please
[12:37] <redblade> okay
[12:38] <adub> UberKop    well ill tell you but i asked you first
[12:38] <janno> Is there tool wich will show me my cpu temp and motherboard too
[12:39] <Madpilot> !sensors
[12:39] <ubotu> hmm... sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[12:39] <Madpilot> janno: see the link above ^^^
[12:40] <djs_2_6> janno - http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/download.html
[12:40] <[Phaedrus] > anybody got any luck making ubuntu work with widescreens?
[12:40] <adub> heh, UberKop was a cop
[12:40] <jimcooncat> redblade: in synaptic search for nautilus. when you find it right-click it, and choose "Mark for Complete Removal". If it asks to remove ubuntu-desktop that's ok. Then, if you removed ubuntu-desktop, search for that and reinstall it. If you didn't remove ubuntu-desktop, just reinstall nautilus.
[12:41] <Alexi5> nice
[12:41] <cppnewbie> ablomen: can i pm u instead so i dont appear so ridiculous in the crowd? :D
[12:41] <Alexi5> i see a ubuntu version just for my nephew
[12:42] <adub> yeah like my working linux knowledge i dont want to use it to help cops, but i am glad i got in his head
[12:42] <ablomen> cppnewbie: sure ;)
[12:43] <gorann> People have a trouble at Breezy, I am in spanish version, when i try to import a bookmark to firefox, the window has message and dont have text in the button and cant continue with the process, any idea?
[12:43] <redblade> jimcooncat, I'm doing it  now
[12:43] <redblade> I hope it works
[12:43] <holycow> gorann, what do you mean import bookmarks?
[12:43] <holycow> its just an html file?
[12:44] <krz_> thegladiator, most of my time im quite busy. sometimes i dont even have the to figure out why something isnt working. or why it looks like this. this is why windows is still a good choice. it just works
[12:44] <krz_> *have the time*
[12:44] <djs_2_6> Hey, does anyone know how to clone hard drive to hard drive?
[12:44] <holycow> djs_2_6, yes,
[12:44] <holycow> djs_2_6, install partimage, and run partimage with sudo ... that will let you clone an entire hd in minutes
[12:45] <holycow> djs_2_6, and restore it
[12:45] <holycow> djs_2_6, step 2 is you need to research how to dd the boot sector, use google for that
[12:45] <djs_2_6> holycow - Is partimage in the repositories?
[12:45] <Ubuntu> hello, can someone tell me the best x64 bit sources.list entries ?
[12:45] <gorann> holycow, example my bookmark firefox (windows) to firefox (breezy) catch?
[12:45] <holycow> djs_2_6, one tip: YOU HAVETO DD AT LEAST THE FIRST 100 SECTORS or the ubuntu bootloader wont be able to start, it installs it self RIGHT AFTER the boot sector
[12:46] <holycow> djs_2_6, yes it is
[12:46] <Ubuntu> someone who uses 64 bit system ?
[12:46] <Ubuntu> and 64 bit breezy system ?
[12:46] <djs_2_6> holycow - would it be better to just dd the whole drive?
[12:47] <holycow> djs_2_6, well, if you have an infinite amount of time go ahead
[12:47] <holycow> djs_2_6, i dare you to dd a 10 gig hd
[12:47] <holycow> i dare you
[12:47] <djs_2_6> holycow - is it that slow?
[12:47] <holycow> try it and see
[12:47] <PuGz> hey guys. I am trying to use the espresso installer in dapper flight4, but it is playing up (i realise it isnt completed yet... but is manual partitioning supposed to work?)
[12:48] <holycow> gorann, its no problem, its just an html file, i do it all the time.  what steps did you use to do the import?
[12:48] <gorann> bookmarks, import
[12:48] <gorann> and then firefox crash
[12:48] <holycow> djs_2_6, partimage is amazing.  i can image several gigs of data in 3 minutes
[12:49] <pappan> does any console irc clients support proxy server ?
[12:49] <holycow> djs_2_6, i have built for my self partimage images, i now install ubuntu onto new drives in 3 minutes flat
[12:49] <djs_2_6> holycow - I need to copy a 10GB ide drive to a 9GB scsi drive.  Is that possible with dd or partimage?
[12:50] <holycow> djs_2_6, that is simply physically impossible
[12:50] <holycow> well not quite
[12:50] <gorann> holycow, give a mail and i will send a capture of the screen
[12:50] <holycow> its not possible with dd or partimage as they read all the sectors and dd's case every bit
[12:51] <holycow> djs_2_6, you will need to partitino the target drive manually
[12:51] <holycow> dd the bootsector plus a bit over to the target drive
[12:51] <holycow> then manually copy the data over to the target drive
[12:51] <holycow> you can't image greater -> lesser
[12:51] <pappan> gorann: theres pastebin
[12:51] <djs_2_6> holycow - Only using 4.6 GB out of 9.0 formatted, and scsi is 8.4 GB formatted...
[12:51] <holycow> you can however image same -> same or lesser -> greater
[12:51] <pappan> gorann: there u can even upload screenshots
[12:51] <holycow> djs_2_6, note: YOU ARE CREATING AN IMAGE
[12:52] <redblade> jimcooncat, there is mentioan of CORBA too
[12:52] <gorann> pappan, sorry? dont understand
[12:53] <pappan> gorann: u r trying show a screenshot right ?
[12:53] <gorann> pappan,  yuppers
[12:53] <pappan> gorann: holycow, give a mail and i will send a capture of the screen
[12:53] <OmegaAlpha> how do i add a shortcut to desktop of a game i installed via terminal
[12:53] <pappan> use the pasting url in topic
[12:53] <holycow> pappan, way what?
[12:53] <holycow> say even
[12:54] <pappan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:55] <koto> where can I download the lastest developer version of ubuntu? want to enjoy all the lastest gnome goodies :)
[12:55] <xualo> i got a question about changing resolution in the terminal
[12:55] <dolmans_> !dapper
[12:55] <ubotu> dapper is, like, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[12:56] <gorann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8860
[12:56] <Ng> koto: you can either upgrade a breezy install or install one of the dapper flight releases. however it is unstable until april. when it breaks you get to keep the pieces ;)
[12:56] <gorann> holycow, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8860
[12:56] <snowblink> koto: flight CD 4 just got announced today
[12:56] <gorann> holycow, try there
[12:56] <fek> moin
[12:56] <OmegaAlpha> Ng, how do you upgrade a breezy install and is it reccomended?
[12:56] <djs_2_6> holycow, I am reading all about partimage, but I do not want to have an image file.  I just want a direct clone of the drive...
[12:56] <xualo> !changing resolution on the terminal
[12:56] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xualo
[12:57] <holycow> djs_2_6, an image is a clone
[12:57] <Ng> OmegaAlpha: without wishing to sound rude, if you need to ask you should probably wait until release
[12:57] <holycow> djs_2_6, i think you mean a 'copy' of a file system
[12:57] <holycow> djs_2_6, in which case you are not 'cloning' your are 'copying'
[12:57] <holycow> djs_2_6, which essentially answers your question, i think y ou know how to copy files
[12:58] <djs_2_6> Holycow, is it possible to copy partitions in their entirety?
[12:58] <OmegaAlpha> would that be the apt-get upgrade command someone told me not to do one day?
[12:58] <xualo> anyone knows how to change the resolution on the terminal?
[12:58] <excyberlabber> xualo, are you running gnome?
[12:58] <Ng> OmegaAlpha: it'd be a dist-upgrade, but yeah
[12:58] <holycow> djs_2_6, sure, drop your hd into a usb tray, mount the partition, copy it like any folder
[12:58] <djs_2_6> holycow - no usb tray...
[12:59] <xualo> i cant get in to graphical desktop
[12:59] <xualo> i need to change the resolution
[12:59] <holycow> well you are going from ide to scsi, i think you are going to haveto do this over a network
[12:59] <OmegaAlpha> Ng, is there anything more recent than breezy 5.10?
[12:59] <koto> Ng: will it be easy to upgrade from flight to 6.04 or will i have to do a fresh install?
[01:00] <holycow> koto, no resintall required dude, this is linux
[01:00] <holycow> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[01:00] <holycow> very zen
[01:00] <Ng> OmegaAlpha: nope
[01:00] <koto> holycow: so once i install a ubuntu release I can upgrade like this?
[01:01] <Ng> koto: you can just upgrade, but I would recommend a clean install if possible
[01:01] <holycow> koto, well of course, why bother doing something as insane as a windows like reinstall?
[01:01] <holycow> koto, ignore ng, thats wrong
[01:02] <holycow> ignore ng's comment i meant
[01:02] <holycow> don't ignore ng :)
[01:02] <jin002>  ?
[01:02] <koto> Ng: why do you recommend a clean install
[01:02] <holycow> koto, there is 0 benefit to a clean install
[01:02] <excyberlabber> xualo, http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_change_resolution
[01:03] <Toma-> clean install is ftw.
[01:03] <djs_2_6> !korean
[01:03] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, djs_2_6
[01:03] <Ng> koto: if you're upgrading, especially through a development version, your system won't be the same as if you reinstall. I keep /home on a separate partition so I can easily blow away my / and have it be completely clean
[01:03] <holycow> koto, ignore ngs comment here too
[01:04] <holycow> thas wrong
[01:04] <OmegaAlpha> lol
[01:04] <redblade> What is corba?
[01:04] <chromebuntu> oh my lord the official ubuntu mirror is slow.
[01:04] <koto> Toma-: what does ftw mean?
[01:04] <Toma-> for the win :)
[01:04] <holycow> chromebuntu, well when you have 10 000 people sucking on the teet of main ubuntu mirrors, sure its bound to happen
[01:05] <OmegaAlpha> why at boot screen do i have three different choices for Ubuntu.. really 6 but thats including safemode
[01:05] <holycow> OmegaAlpha, because they are usefull
[01:05] <koto> Toma- so your comment about clean install is positiv or negative? do you recommend clean install or not?
[01:06] <holycow> koto, its neither, its wrong
[01:06] <Toma-> i say clean
[01:06] <OmegaAlpha> holycow, well one ends in -K7 and the other two in -386?
[01:06] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - they are specific versions of the distro, dependant on processor architecture, etc...
[01:06] <holycow> what djs_2_6 said
[01:07] <OmegaAlpha> how did they get there.. when i first installed i could have sworn there was only one
[01:07] <chromebuntu> holycow: only thing is, they all seem to go to the same box buried in the UK, so its bound to be slow.
[01:07] <OmegaAlpha> am i and should i get rid of the others just so i have the one and it safe mode
[01:07] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - There would have been at least 2 to begin with.  I bet you have an AMD processor, because that is what the -K7 is for...
[01:07] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - LEAVE THEM!!!
[01:08] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, ok i was just wondering if i added them somehow from installing different drivers...
[01:08] <Ng> holycow: it's not wrong ;p
[01:08] <holycow> it is
[01:08] <excyberlabber> anybody know why some java swing breaks on ubuntu? ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[01:08] <excyberlabber> aborting...
[01:08] <excyberlabber> ./sdm.sh: line 54: 10722 Aborted                 java -Dhomedir=$SDM_HOME -Dpropdir=$SDM_PROP com.sun.sdm.SunDownloadManager $*
[01:08] <excyberlabber> ERROR: Java interpreter reported a problem executing the program. Please, check the
[01:09] <excyberlabber> ERROR: output log.
[01:09] <Ng> holycow: it's undeniable that an upgraded system, especially via a devel branch, ends up different toa clean install
[01:09] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, i just get confused on what one i should boot.. i randomly pick them now
[01:09] <koto> Ng: why is this so?
[01:09] <holycow> *sigh* whatever
[01:09] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - The -386 is the base architecture for most modern processors.  The safe mode is obvious, and the -K7 would be there if you had an AMD processor.  Do you have an AMD processor?
[01:10] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, yes
[01:10] <Ng> koto: any number of reasons. apt is very good, but it's not perfect. I'm only talking about small differences here, but I like to keep my systems as clean as I can
[01:10] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - What model?
[01:10] <[blah] > how do I open the file browser?
[01:10] <chromebuntu> Is there a way to tell dpkg/apt that libicu34-dev satisfies the dependency for libicu28-dev ?
[01:10] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - open a terminal and type nautilus...
[01:10] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, Athlon XP i think it was called
[01:10] <[blah] > djs_2_6, is there no other way?
[01:11] <Toma-> [blah] , click the Folder icon on your taskebat
[01:11] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6,  1500+
[01:11] <Toma-> *taskbar
[01:11] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - You have a lot of ways, depending on your config...
[01:11] <koto> Ng: but apt-get update will just pull the current packages, right? so the only thing which can go wrong are config files
[01:11] <[blah] > okay and now how do I find my network shares?
[01:11] <excyberlabber> [blah]  or the places menu if you're running gnome
[01:12] <[blah] > thanx excyberlabber
[01:12] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - That is the earliest version of the AXP, but the -K7 version in your booter would have software optimized for that specific subset of architecture...
[01:12] <G0SUB> is it okay to dist-upgrade to dapper flight 4?
[01:13] <Ng> koto: mostly, but to give you an example, when I went hoary->breezy I never got graphical bootups because nothing had ever bothered to install the newer version of grub to my MBR. Granted that's a tiny tiny thing and doesn't matter, but it means my install was slightly different to breezy, which annoys me. Like I said, it's just minor things
[01:13] <chromebuntu> G0SUB: worked for me. But. Use at own risk etc etc.
[01:13] <dapper-chrome> Is there a way to tell dpkg/apt that libicu34-dev satisfies the dependency for libicu28-dev ?
[01:13] <G0SUB> chromebuntu: absolutely no glitches?
[01:13] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, AXP?  Did i somehow put that -K7 version there?
[01:13] <[blah] > when I open the network browser it asks me for a pw.  I type mine in and it rejects it.
[01:13] <dapper-chrome> G0SUB: i've been using it for about 1 or 2 hours, and it has some glitches, yes. But it seems ok now.
[01:14] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - AXP is short for Athlon XP, and you might have done a kernel upgrade...
[01:14] <dapper-chrome> gnome seems stable at least.
[01:14] <G0SUB> dapper-chrome: okay :) does XGL work for you?
[01:14] <[blah] > I was able to browse my win network lastnight without any problems
[01:14] <dapper-chrome> G0SUB: yes, after some screwing around
[01:14] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - Is it asking for a keychain password, or a network password?
[01:14] <koto> Ng: I see. so you just get updates of the old features. but you won't see new ones. but I could pull them manually (if I only new that they exist)
[01:14] <G0SUB> dapper-chrome: heh, for example?
[01:14] <[blah] > djs_2_6, I am not sure.
[01:14] <dapper-chrome> G0SUB: had to install nvidia-glx, unmentioned in the howtos
[01:14] <[blah] > I think it is a network password
[01:15] <dapper-chrome> (I have an nvidia card)
[01:15] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, i think i did... so is there a better preference for me.. k7 or 386?
[01:15] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - better find out...
[01:15] <G0SUB> dapper-chrome: I see ... any idea if it works on Intel 855GM?
[01:15] <Ng> koto: it's still not that simple, you'll get a lot of them. I suppose the best thing to do would be to just upgrade and then only re-install if things are a bit weird/broken (which you're unlikely to notice I would think)
[01:15] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha -  I just said, K7 is optimized for your processor, so that would make it the better choice...
[01:15] <[blah] > djs_2_6, how would I?
[01:15] <dapper-chrome> G0SUB: i would read around, I dont know. But it doesn't hurt to try; its very very easy to roll back.
[01:16] <ali> what is the meaning of "Install in OEM mode"?
[01:16] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - Try to log on again, and give us the message...
[01:16] <G0SUB> dapper-chrome: okay, fine. /me will go for a dist-upgrade tonight. thanks !
[01:16] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, yeah but having the earliest version threw me off thinking it wouldwork but have bugs since its older
[01:16] <koto> Ng: I just don't want to go trough the hell of upgrading/reinstalling and loosing all my system config settings. I hated that with suse and redhat and that's why I currently use gentoo. but I'm tired of keeping my system up to date manually
[01:17] <OmegaAlpha> djs_2_6, thanks for the info :)
[01:17] <dapper-chrome> G0SUB: use the official mirror; my local jp mirror was missing packages
[01:17] <djs_2_6> ali - http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/15/2130234&tid=38&tid=2
[01:17] <G0SUB> dapper-chrome: ok
[01:17] <djs_2_6> OmegaAlpha - You are welcome
[01:17] <[blah] > djs_2_6, 'You must log in to access blah@UBUNTU domain MSHOME'
[01:17] <dapper-chrome> anyone know how to make dpkg satisfy dependencies artificially?
[01:17] <dapper-chrome> I'm trying to compile the latest wine and its giving me grief
[01:18] <djs_2_6> dapper-chrome - Don't you add a -f ?
[01:18] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - That looks like a Network password.
[01:18] <dapper-chrome> djs_2_6: am using apt-get actually
[01:18] <Ng> koto: then go for it ;)
[01:18] <[blah] > why is it rejecting my password?
[01:18] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - Are you using a user account that exists on the other computer?
[01:19] <Ng> xualo: the x86 version will be easier for sure
[01:19] <djs_2_6> dapper-chrome - -f ...
[01:19] <Ng> xualo: things like java/codecs are much easier to get working
[01:19] <ali> djs_2_6: th.x
[01:19] <xualo> ohhh ok
[01:19] <djs_2_6> ali - You are welcome
[01:19] <[blah] > djs_2_6,  my username on my win box and ubuntu box are the same
[01:19] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - And your password, too?
[01:20] <[blah] > yes
[01:20] <xualo> so its not recomend it at this moment to use 64bit distro then?
[01:20] <[blah] > djs_2_6, I was able to browse my network yestarday without any problems
[01:20] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - from that ubuntu pc?
[01:20] <Ng> xualo: it's up to you, it's entirely possible to run a few 32bit things with a chroot, but if you want ease over any possible speed gain, go 32bit
[01:20] <xualo> once all the software programs are finish for 64bit distro thats when i should use 64bit distro?
[01:20] <[blah] > yes
[01:21] <xualo> ahhhok
[01:21] <djs_2_6> djs_2_6 - how are you getting to the file shares?
[01:21] <cppnewbie> anyone greek in here? :S
[01:21] <xualo> i get it
[01:21] <xualo> cheers
[01:21] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - how are you getting to the file shares?
[01:21] <[blah] > cppnewbie, yes
[01:21] <koto> Ng: so will I also be able to just upgrade my install with a new version of ubuntu using a CD image of the latest version?
[01:21] <cppnewbie> ela :D
[01:21] <cppnewbie> kala eida sto host oti egrafe panos dld
[01:22] <[blah] > djs_2_6, its samaba, and Im open places -> network servers
[01:22] <Antoine> Please can someone help me with IRC
[01:22] <Stargazers>  /wc
[01:22] <[blah] > cppnewbie, :)
[01:22] <cppnewbie> :D
[01:22] <Ng> koto: yeah, when you insert an ubuntu cd it should offer to upgrade
[01:22] <cppnewbie> sto #ubuntu-gr den mpainei kaneis?
[01:22] <Flash_Blizzard> hi all
[01:23] <Flash_Blizzard> i love ubuntu
[01:23] <Flash_Blizzard> :D:D
[01:23] <koto> Ng: and this WON'T break my config files, right?
[01:23] <Flash_Blizzard> bye
[01:23] <[blah] > cppnewbie, mpeka ego twra.
[01:24] <[blah] > djs_2_6, am I doing something wrong?
[01:24] <xualo> anyone in here use cedega?
[01:24] <Ng> koto: correct. just stick the cd in and ubuntu will notice it and start up synaptic to do the upgrade while you're logged in
[01:24] <djs_2_6> [blah]  - everything sounds right...
[01:25] <jin002> #ubuntu
[01:28] <Antoine> Am I logged into Ubutu community and can someone please help me configure my IRC
[01:29] <excyberlabber> I found the answer to my java question
[01:29] <wizardjames> whats the chat ubuntu channel?
[01:30] <theD3viL> why i cant use mplayer with xv'
[01:31] <[blah] > how do I check the status of my samba?
[01:32] <ablomen> [blah] : smbstatus ;)
[01:35] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've a problem... when i try to move a file into the mountpoint ~/Documents (/dev/hda8) a warning says me that there's enough space on device. But if I run "df -h" i can see that the used space on /dev/hda8 is only the 14%.So... what is the problem?
[01:35] <wizardjames> whats the chat ubuntu channel?
[01:35] <Alex_BO> wizardjames, it's this
[01:36] <Ng> #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter :)
[01:36] <wizardjames> thanks Ng
[01:38] <incon> xgl question get is running on dapper work ok..... any terminal apps the will do this... have forground text not fades(says solid) with a translucent background ?
[01:39] <djk_> how much memory does x.org usually use?
[01:39] <wizardjames> hmm, me thinks the install of ubuntu when entering the username it should give a warning if you got a cap for the first part...
[01:40] <Alex_BO> is there anybody who can help me?
[01:40] <tbaa> How do I install mplayer with xvid/divx support?
[01:40] <hatake_kakashi> !tell Alex_BO about ask
[01:41] <hatake_kakashi> tbaa: if the version of mplayer you got from the repos does not support it, you will have to compile it from the source
[01:41] <tbaa> ok thx
[01:42] <Ng> djk_: that depends on what is running inside it
[01:42] <lupz> hello, i've upgraded to dabber but the new kernel tells me that /dev/hdb1 doesn't exist.... any idea ?
[01:42] <Alex_BO> hatake_kakashi, i've already asked
[01:42] <tbaa> hatake_kakashi do you have any idea of ./configure options to support xvid?
[01:42] <Alex_BO> Alex_BO HELLO!I've a problem... when i try to move a file into the mountpoint ~/Documents (/dev/hda8) a warning says me that there's enough space on device. But if I run "df -h" i can see that the used space on /dev/hda8 is only the 14%.So... what is the problem?
[01:42] <MisterN> hi
[01:42] <Ng> djk_: I'm running a few things like email and browsers and stuff and it's using about 86MB of RAM
[01:43] <djk_> Ng: krusader, amarok, opera, konversation.. 76% of 1gb ram+1.3gb swap
[01:43] <hatake_kakashi> Alex_BO: you meant there is not enough space? check to see how big the file is and check to see how much space you do have exactly remanining
[01:43] <neosc> I just got some mandrake pakages .. ending with .tar.bz2 ... can i install them on ubuntu?
[01:44] <neosc> i also have some rpms
[01:44] <Ng> djk_: how are you measuring the memory usage?
[01:44] <hatake_kakashi> tbaa: I presume you need to get the dev packages for those respectively before doing so and then let configure detect it. The output of configure script at the end will tell you what it can and can't support
[01:44] <Ng> djk_: (chances are it's misleading you)
[01:44] <lupz> hello, i've upgraded to dapper but the new kernel tells me that /dev/hdb1 doesn't exist.... any idea ?
[01:44] <djk_> Ng: top
[01:44] <neosc> I just got some mandrake pakages .. ending with .tar.bz2 ... can i install them on ubuntu? i also have some rpms
[01:45] <ChocoPanda> awoo
[01:45] <amphi> djk_: how muc is buffers and cache?
[01:45] <ChocoPanda> anyone?
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> neosc: wouldn't recommend it, but you can if you insist, just that the support maybe limited for it
[01:45] <neosc> how do i?
[01:45] <neosc> hatake
[01:45] <ChocoPanda> er... anyone know how can i get online with ubuntu?
[01:46] <Alex_BO> hatake_kakashi, for example... if I try to move a 6 byte text file to /dev/hda8 it says me "No space left on device"
[01:46] <djk_> amphi: buffers 4788k cached 67700
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> lupz: where exactly is the destination mount point for it?
[01:46] <Ng> djk_: ok, ignore the %MEM column and the VIRT column - RES is the amount of actual RAM its using
[01:46] <neosc> choco what kinda connection do you have .. ethernet?
[01:46] <lupz> hatake_kakashi: in fstab ?
[01:46] <neosc> or modem
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> neosc: there's information scattered on internet on howto extract the files, check whats inside, if they are sources, you maybe able to compile it, if its just binaries, it may work
[01:46] <Ng> djk_: X will have at least one, if not two, maps of your graphics card's RAM, which gets included in some figures, making it look like it's sucking up hundreds of MB when really it's not
[01:46] <ChocoPanda> yeha
[01:46] <djk_> Ng: Res is at 773m.. still a bit too much
[01:46] <ChocoPanda> ethernet
[01:46] <amphi> djk_: if you hit M in top, it will sort the processes by mem usage
[01:47] <ChocoPanda> i need to open a gateway to a certain ip...
[01:47] <lupz> hatake_kakashi: /dev/hdb1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:47] <hatake_kakashi> Alex_BO: I presume there is something wrong with the buffer or something?
[01:47] <neosc> I can open them in archive manager and view the files..
[01:47] <Alex_BO> hatake_kakashi, how can i see that?
[01:47] <neosc> which do i run to install
[01:47] <GNAM> Upstream Version Freeze
[01:47] <GNAM> .
[01:47] <neosc> choco.. enter the numbers in system>administration>networking.. and click activate
[01:48] <Ng> djk_: if the RES column says 773m then it is actually using 773mb of ram, which does seem unreasonably high. perhaps one of the clients you are using is leaking pixmaps into it :/
[01:48] <hatake_kakashi> lupz: I presume the (hdx,x) label is incorrect in the grub config. Where x marking is, is where the numbers are supposed to be
[01:48] <lupz> hatake_kakashi: the breezy kernel boots..
[01:48] <hatake_kakashi> Alex_BO: not sure exactly, but try unmounting it and remounting it again.
[01:48] <lesshaste> can any tell me what errors like this mean (from dmesg)
[01:48] <hatake_kakashi> lupz: but you get kern_panic because the file is not found?
[01:48] <lesshaste> APIC error on CPU0: 04(40)
[01:48] <djk_> Ng: which clients are you referring to?
[01:48] <lesshaste> time.c: Lost 13 timer tick(s)! rip 0x823d49b)
[01:48] <lesshaste> time.c: Lost 15 timer tick(s)! rip default_idle+0x36/0x80)
[01:49] <lupz> hatake_kakashi: it stops the boot process saying that /dev/hdb1 doesn't exist
[01:49] <Alex_BO> hatake_kakashi, i've already done it.it didn't work
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: disable local apic at boot... edit your grub config to have apic=off or something
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> err nolapic
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> lupz: what sort of fs is it on and what sort of arch are you on?
[01:50] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: hmm...
[01:50] <hatake_kakashi> Alex_BO: what if you 'touch' a file with zero bites and start filling some details in it?
[01:50] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: what does it mean?
[01:50] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: what is broken?
[01:51] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: its an issue with Advanced Programmable Interface Controller or something, google it
[01:51] <lupz> hatake_kakashi: i386 and ext3
[01:51] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: I tried a web search with no luck
[01:51] <Ng> djk_: krusader, amarok, opera, konversation..
[01:51] <ChocoPanda> nah...
[01:51] <ChocoPanda> aint working
[01:51] <ChocoPanda> cant even go google
[01:51] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: s/interface/interrupt I believe ;)
[01:51] <hatake_kakashi> lupz: hmm odd
[01:51] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: meh
[01:51] <ChocoPanda> um...where  do i check how much disk space is there on my hdd?
[01:51] <Alex_BO> hatake_kakashi, alex@alex:~/Documents$ touch fool
[01:51] <Alex_BO>                           touch: cannot touch `fool': No space left on device
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> ChocoPanda: df -h
[01:52] <Alex_BO> hatake_kakashi, IT'S CRAZY!!!
[01:52] <Ng> Alex_BO: could you put the output of "df -h" and "mount" in a pastebin?
[01:53] <djk_> Ng: mmh, how can i figure out what the problem is?
[01:53] <Alex_BO> Ng, yes, of course
[01:53] <delta> Hi. Are there any maintener here?
[01:53] <mcphail> Alex_BO: have you run out of inodes on the mount point (multiple tiny files?)
[01:53] <synth> i hate md.
[01:53] <synth> hate hate hate md
[01:53] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: I'm sure if you search the words for 'APIC error on CPU0: 04(40)' without the quotes, you will get some response
[01:54] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: thx
[01:54] <Alex_BO> mcphail, i can't understand...do you mean the typology of the ext2 filesystem? for small,normal, big or extra big files?
[01:54] <Ng> djk_: there's a tool called pmap that can show you all of the memory maps a process has, so you can get a better idea of why it's so crazy, but it's not an especially friendly tool ;)
[01:54] <ChocoPanda> um... where do i enter df -h?
[01:54] <ChocoPanda> where's gnome?
[01:54] <df> here
[01:54] <delta> when a lib is updated?
[01:54] <df> -h
[01:55] <df> :)
[01:55] <Alex_BO> Ng, mcphail, hatake_kakashi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8861
[01:55] <Ng> ChocoPanda: in a terminal. applications->accessories->terminal
[01:55] <mcphail> Alex_BO: you can set the number of inodes depending on what you are using them for. If you've set a small number but have lots of small files, they could be used up before you run out of disk space. Unlikely, though.
[01:55] <ChocoPanda> ah found iyt
[01:55] <ChocoPanda> the networking still isnt working though...
[01:55] <Alex_BO> mcphail, i remember that i set the inode for big files
[01:56] <mcphail> Alex_BO: then you might have used them up
[01:57] <Alexi5> does ubuntu have any program that can open rar
[01:57] <Alexi5> file
[01:57] <Ng> djk_: also have a look at xrestop
[01:57] <Alex_BO> mcphail, how can i change the inode?
[01:57] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: still doesn't tell me what it means sadly
[01:57] <mcphail> Alex_BO: looking at what you've pasted, i don't think that is the problem
[01:58] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: try
[01:58] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: try 'APIC error'
[01:58] <ChocoPanda> um... im a newbie linux user here, i remember having partitioned my hdd into 2, where is the other one?
[01:58] <djk_> Ng: thanks
[01:58] <Alex_BO> mcphail, and so?
[01:59] <ChocoPanda> the place where i stored my stuff... um, where do check?
[01:59] <Alex_BO> mcphail, i try to reboot now
[01:59] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: ok.. do you know the answer by the way?
[01:59] <hatake_kakashi> Alexi5: winrar for linux (cmd line only) and/or p7zip
[01:59] <mcphail> Alex_BO: nevertheless, I think you can try increasing the number of inodes without destroying data. You'd need to scour the man pages for mke2fs though.
[01:59] <Alexi5> are there any gui rar apps
[01:59] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: no, but you can disable it to prevent CPU spin downs, somewhat uncommon on uniproc computers
[01:59] <hatake_kakashi> Alexi5: Ark
[02:00] <hatake_kakashi> Alexi5: and file-roller
[02:00] <tortoise> how can i install ubuntu on a computer that will not boot from cd? I have looked around the 'net , but nothing has worked so far :(
[02:00] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: thx
[02:00] <hatake_kakashi> Alexi5: but you still need unrar from rarlabs to be installed, etc to take advantage of it on those GUI frontends
[02:00] <marius_> Somebody here that got whine?
[02:00] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: could it be that you also may have a buggy BIOS, etc?
[02:01] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: always possible.
[02:01] <lesshaste> hatake_kakashi: I tend to blame the kernel normally...
[02:01] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: I mean on uniproc, that seems a little odd
[02:01] <tortoise> all i have is a USB cd and the bios wont boot from usb or cd.
[02:01] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: you have the latest (non vanilla) kernel builds
[02:01] <ChocoPanda> tortoise : go get a new cdrom or borrow one from a friend
[02:01] <julianR> hi - can anyone point me where to go for help on logging in to ubuntu wiki?
[02:01] <ChocoPanda> that's what i did lol
[02:02] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: update your BIOS
[02:02] <Quinch> Can someone tell me how to download Mozilla plugins? Flash and ActiveX specifically.
[02:02] <tortoise> ChocoPanda, iit is a tablet pc
[02:03] <Alex_BO> mcphail, noooooo!!!it didn't work
[02:03] <hatake_kakashi> lesshaste: personally I never seen that on uniproc computers, that seems to be a little more of the case with non uniproc computers where their sync, etc maybe an issue
[02:03] <ChocoPanda> aw darn
[02:03] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, i have the latest bios
[02:03] <marius_> Somebody here that got whine?
[02:03] <tortoise> it is a fujitsu tablet
[02:03] <ChocoPanda> oh yeah... my connection~ still doesnt work
[02:04] <ChocoPanda> and where do i set the homepage for firefox anyway?...
[02:04] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: and it can boot up winxp install cd fine?
[02:04] <Quinch> ChocoPanda, under "Tools".
[02:04] <Quinch> Chocopanda, Sorry, I lie, "Edit - Preferences".
[02:04] <tortoise> hatake , i had a friend help with that a long time ago, but he has since gone away
[02:04] <mcphail> Alex_BO: what didn't work?
[02:04] <Alex_BO> the reboot
[02:04] <Alex_BO> mcphail, the problem continues
[02:04] <mcphail> did you change anything before the reboot?
[02:05] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: just a curious factor that maybe either the burn wasn't successful and/or the drive is very picky
[02:05] <Alex_BO> mcphail, no
[02:05] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi , he made some sort of special boot disk or something
[02:05] <mcphail> Alex_BO: a reboot doesn't solve anything in itself
[02:05] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: uh huh.. that you may have a fair bit of issues with
[02:05] <Alex_BO> mcphail, :-)
[02:05] <mcphail> Alex_BO: this isn't Windows
[02:05] <Alex_BO> mcphail, :)
[02:05] <tortoise> hatake, i am feeling that
[02:05] <Alex_BO> mcphail, so?
[02:06] <tortoise> there must be SOME way to get this thing to start from a boot floppy , right?
[02:06] <mcphail> Alex_BO: have a read at the man page for mke2fs. There might be something about changing the number of inodes in there.
[02:06] <Quinch> Can someone tell me where to look for Mozilla plugins?
[02:06] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: I assume so, if your friend did that, then yes, however it would be a bit of a pain to try and get it from floppy to read it via cdrom
[02:07] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: I mean in such a way that floppy is to be used to boot the cdrom
[02:07] <Alex_BO> mcphail, do you advice me to make a backup before this operation?
[02:07] <mcphail> Alex_BO: absolutely
[02:07] <darth> hello
[02:07] <Alex_BO> mcphail, okay
[02:08] <Alex_BO> mcphail, do you think that it would be the resolution for my problem?
[02:08] <tortoise> hatake, i read that i can have a boot floppy to start the computer with USB cd support, and then run the ubuntu install. BUT, i have had no luck doing this
[02:08] <darth> i was wondering if there was a quick way to get apache, mysql and php via apt???
[02:08] <mcphail> Alex_BO: don't know. I'm no guru
[02:08] <ChocoPanda> internet connection.. does not exist... sob..
[02:08] <Alex_BO> mcphail, ok.thank you however
[02:08] <mcphail> Alex_BO: good luck
[02:08] <ablomen> darth: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-common
[02:09] <IanDoh> can someone help me?
[02:09] <darth> thankyou
[02:09] <IanDoh> i want to get some ubuntu CD's
[02:09] <ablomen> darth: any time, good luck
[02:09] <mcphail> Alex_BO: another thing to check - there are ways of implementing quota in linux. I haven't used them and can't advise, however.
[02:09] <IanDoh> im doing a confence about Linux
[02:09] <IanDoh> and i would like to give them out
[02:09] <IanDoh> there are over 300 people though
[02:09] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: yeah, your choice seems to be somewhat very limited there, I assume you don't have built-in cdrom?
[02:09] <ChocoPanda> er... how do i get online?
[02:09] <IanDoh> can i get them?
[02:10] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, not built in, it is a tablet
[02:10] <ChocoPanda> what's a tablet?
[02:10] <IanDoh> i need to know something about shipit
[02:10] <tortoise> ChocoPanda ,  http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&p=fujitsu%20stylistic
[02:10] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: well I don't know, your choices seems very very bleak, the only way I can see out is to write to the manufacturer asking for better support I suppose?
[02:11] <Quinch> ChocoPanda: Think of a mousepad with a pencil instead of a mouse. Useful for digital art.
[02:11] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, i loathe the manufacturer for doing this
[02:12] <ChocoPanda> ooo cool
[02:12] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, my friend had created a boot floppy that enabled the usb cdrom, is there no way i can use something like that with ubuntu?
[02:12] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: unfortunately, that's what you get with pre-built equipments, unless if you are daring to go for various other hacks that maybe floating around and if not lucky may cause your tablet to no longer operate
[02:12] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: you said before that it didn't work
[02:12] <ChocoPanda> anyone to help with my  connection thingy?
[02:12] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, i said that what I tried didnt work, my friend got it to work
[02:13] <xualo> which video card work better on linux ati or nvidia?
[02:13] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: well.. I wonder what sort of options you get when you load up the floppy from there
[02:13] <hatake_kakashi> xualo: nvidia
[02:13] <xualo> ohh ok
[02:13] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, i am not a computer guru, all i know is , this computer only will boot from HDD or floppy.
[02:13] <xualo> any nvidia card?
[02:14] <CoolKast> how can i browse through windows shared folders from my ubuntu machine on a lan?
[02:14] <tortoise> xualo, nvidia driver support is better than ati
[02:14] <IdleOne> how can I check what type of ram I have?
[02:14] <xualo> cool
[02:15] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: I suppose you can try it again, if it does not work, try to talk to your friend about it. I presume in worst case scenario, where he only knows how to do it for windows, then you maybe stuck with having to poke around again
[02:15] <hatake_kakashi> IdleOne: 'free'
[02:15] <xualo> i might have to buy an nvidia coz the games i play on linux work too crap on my ati card
[02:15] <IdleOne> hatake_kakashi:  not the amount I want type . I have an old machine here
[02:15] <hatake_kakashi> CoolKast: you need smbclient and smbfs. but I think if you type in 'smb:/' it may also work without having to install any extra files
[02:15] <Alexi5> so therefore edubuntu is good for kids
[02:16] <ablomen> xualo: buying nvidia cards is always a good thing ;)
[02:16] <hatake_kakashi> IdleOne: ahh what type? I doubt it.. what sort of CPU is it?
[02:16] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, i know that he got the computer to boot from floppy able to see the usb cd rom, then he just started XP setup...but i dont know how to do the boot disk
[02:16] <Quinch> How do I execute a shell script?
[02:16] <IdleOne> its a P2 233Mhx hatake_kakashi
[02:16] <Alexi5> ati cards have good gpus but crappy drivers
[02:17] <CoolKast> hatake_kakashi:if i uderstand correct i need the ip of the windows pc, but my network is dhcp, is there a option to do this automatically?
[02:17] <tortoise> Alexi5 , amen
[02:17] <hatake_kakashi> tortoise: there are guides for it on the internet, I think bootdisk.com is one
[02:17] <xualo> doesnt matter which brand? xfx or leadtech any brand should work fine?
[02:17] <ChocoPanda> ugh... cant.. connect.. to... the net...
[02:17] <tortoise> hatake_kakashi, thanks i will look
[02:17] <hatake_kakashi> IdleOne: slot 1 or socket type?
[02:17] <Quinch> Must... talk... like... William... Shatner....
[02:17] <ablomen> Quinch: "chmod 755 theshelscript" then (if your in the same folder) "./theshellscript"
[02:17] <IdleOne> hatake_kakashi:  beats me
[02:17] <Alexi5> has anyone here ever played unreal tournament on ubuntu?
[02:17] <hatake_kakashi> CoolKast: CoolKast you don't need to know the IP of your windows box
[02:17] <IdleOne> hatake_kakashi:  how do I tell the difference?
[02:17] <ablomen> xualo: yeah it doesnt mather
[02:17] <hatake_kakashi> IdleOne: I assume its most likely on SD-RAM
[02:18] <ablomen> xualo: as long as its a nvidia card
[02:18] <Quinch> Ablomen: Oy.... alright. What's all that stuff mean, anyhow?
[02:18] <xualo> ChocoPanda ugh... cant.. connect.. to... the net...<---- how come are you using irc then?
[02:18] <IdleOne> hatake_kakashi:  this box is atleast 6 years old if not older
[02:18] <hatake_kakashi> IdleOne: when you open the case up, if you see slot 1, there will be a black catridge sitting in it with Intel Pentium 2 words written on it. otherwise its socket. but I presume in most cases it uses SD-RAM
[02:18] <CoolKast> hatake_kakashi: those two are installed but when i enter: nautilius smb:/  a password prompt comes up?
[02:18] <ablomen> Quinch: the first command is to set the permisions right and the second one is to run the actual script ;)
[02:19] <Quinch> Ablomen: Thanks.
[02:19] <hatake_kakashi> CoolKast: try and clear the username and then hit Continue or something
[02:19] <ablomen> Quinch: any time
[02:19] <theD3viL> why i can use Xv in mplayer or cant test (multimedia selector) ?
[02:19] <ChocoPanda> er... 22gbs on my hdd is missing, how do i locate it?
[02:20] <tommi^> Hi. Is it a feature or bug that when you open the volume control panel by one click to change volume, click on the plus button, drag the mouse away from plus button and after that release the mouse button that the volume scrolls to full?
[02:20] <CapSoft> lo guys
[02:20] <marius_> tommi thats not a bug
[02:20] <CapSoft> how is dapper?
[02:21] <marius_> its a feature
[02:21] <thegladiator> dapper is buggy
[02:21] <GNAM> until april
[02:21] <marius_> Hhahallo
[02:21] <thegladiator> i mean if you can adjust with crashing boxes , you can go for dapper
[02:21] <tommi^> Okay, it just suprised me when I did it by accident
[02:21] <hatake_kakashi> tommi^: its a feature to me as well, running on Breezy
[02:21] <CapSoft> april ok :)
[02:22] <Alexi5> when did ubuntu burst on to the scene
[02:22] <CoolKast> hatake_kakashi: thx that works
[02:22] <CapSoft> thanks for the info GNAM and thegladiator
[02:22] <hatake_kakashi> CoolKast: np
[02:22] <thegladiator> Alexi5, 2004 I guess
[02:22] <Alexi5> i believe red hat ,suse and the other never saw it coming
[02:22] <CapSoft> i just wanted to say to all the contributers that ubuntu ROCKS!!!! :D
[02:22] <thegladiator> www.ubuntu.com  ----> http://distrowatch.com
[02:22] <tommi^> Alexi5: for me, about a year ago
[02:22] <thegladiator> Alexi5, its not that they didnt see it cmonig or something , they did the work very well
[02:22] <CapSoft> running on 5.10 here
[02:22] <Alexi5> i started using it yesterday
[02:23] <thegladiator> Alexi5, how did you lke it ?
[02:23] <Alexi5> its great
[02:23] <Alexi5> stable
[02:23] <Alexi5> no confusing with dependencies
[02:23] <thegladiator> yepp
[02:23] <ao> i just installed unbuntu, and i still haven't figured out how to install my soundblaster 64 awe soundcard. It hasn't even recognize the hardware yet
[02:23] <armedking> Someone know how to solve this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8864 each time i install software lilypond-data comes out with this error. I tryed removing it but when i install someting it reinstalled lilypond-data.
[02:23] <lupz> hello, the problem seems to be that udev on boot doesn't create the device of my root filesystem... so i get ALERT! /dev/hdb1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! any idea ?
[02:23] <thegladiator> i was advised by albacker_gone to use ubuntu
[02:23] <thegladiator> and he was not mistaken
[02:24] <thegladiator> i swithced from fedora to my favourite debian
[02:24] <tommi^> I just can't wait for the next version of Gnome. It seems it's going to the right direction. I just hope that Evolution get's better - it seems like it's bit frozen. For example I'd love to export my free/busy and possibly my full calendar to internet over ssh as nicely html formatted.
[02:25] <Alexi5> fedora looked good but when instaling software from yum can be a headache because sometimes it does download some of the dependecies
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> Alexi5: that's the same thing with apt-get, what are you talking about
[02:25] <Quinch> How do I find out where an application has been installed?
[02:25] <Alexi5> i meant it doesn't
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> Alexi5: it does
[02:26] <thegladiator> Quinch, synaptic shows the installed packages
[02:26] <thegladiator> Quinch, all packet manager shows and some of them appears in the menu
[02:26] <mcphail> lupz: i've had this issue with usb drives and all udev-using distros
[02:26] <dorel> im seeing that there's a beta version i can download of the new ubuntu
[02:26] <dorel> Flight CD 4
[02:26] <dorel> from what i read its equipped with novell's xgl/compiz which id like to test :)
[02:26] <ufo> dorel: whats new on the flight4
[02:27] <tommi^> There's only one thing with Linux packages that I really hate: removing them. You're left with tons of unused libraries and other software if you decide to test few programs.
[02:27] <Quinch> TheGladiator: No, I mean the exact path where the application is installed. Specific example, I need to copy some files into Mozilla's "plugins" and "components" folders... but where are those?
[02:27] <_jason> tommi^: deborphan might help
[02:27] <ufo> dorel: do the filght4 have xgl packages?
[02:27] <hatake_kakashi> Alexi5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8865
[02:27] <dorel> ufo: some stuff like ekiga, gnome 2.14 and others but the most interesting is xgl
[02:27] <thegladiator> Quinch, are you talking about real player ?
[02:28] <dorel> ufo: i dont know. i thought i'd ask here before i go ahead and download it :P
[02:28] <Quinch> TheGladiator: Flash, actually.
[02:28] <lupz> mcphail: it is an ide drive though..
[02:28] <thegladiator> Quinch, you can copy it to ./mozilla folder
[02:28] <theD3viL> why i can use Xv in mplayer or cant test (multimedia selector) ?
[02:28] <tommi^> _jason: thanks, I didn't knew about it
[02:28] <thegladiator> Quinch, create a folder called plugin and as far as I know component directory is same in this case
[02:28] <mcphail> lupz: i know, but sounds like the sam problem: need to access the device before udev sets it up
[02:28] <thegladiator> Quinch, plugins under ./mozilla
[02:28] <Quinch> TheGladiator: All right... I'll try that.
[02:28] <mcphail> lupz: i'd file a bug for this one
[02:29] <ufo> dorel: i know it got xorg7 but does it have xgl packages... but they should not be so difficult to install
[02:29] <thegladiator> Quinch, Firefox will also take it from there ..yepp
[02:29] <Quinch> TheGladiator: Actually, I found it... via file search. Obvious solution, really.
[02:29] <Toma-> !xgl
[02:29] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:29] <lupz> mcphail: what should i do to workaround ?
[02:29] <dorel> ufo: check this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[02:29] <dorel> ufo: and this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[02:30] <dorel> ahhh Toma beat me to it i see :)
[02:30] <Toma-> ;)
[02:30] <ufo> dorel: i have only console at the moment :)
[02:30] <mcphail> lupz: i think you can edit the init scripts to do a "wait" while udev gets itself together. Beyong my abilities I'm afraid.
[02:30] <lupz> mcphail: well the problem is that it doesn't mount it at all..
[02:31] <arnoud> hallo
[02:31] <mcphail> lupz: yes, but you can edit them using a live cd for example
[02:31] <arnoud> nog hollanders hier?
[02:31] <lupz> mcphail: i'm quite sure that the problem has been with the dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper.. should i check the state of some packages?
[02:31] <thegladiator> can someone tell me a good image hosting site? to upload my screenshot ?
[02:32] <lupz> mcphail: the breezy kernel boots flawlessy so i think that udev isn't correctly updated
[02:32] <mcphail> lupz: sure. Just be aware that dapper isn't ready yet. if this is you main box, use breezy
[02:32] <thegladiator> arnoud, hey
[02:32] <ufo> ufokiller: you want to kill me :(
[02:32] <arnoud> hi
[02:32] <amphi> !nl
[02:32] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:32] <arnoud> R U Dutch?
[02:32] <lupz> mcphail: well yes, i'm ready to have some problems...
[02:32] <lupz> mcphail: anyway any suggestion ?
[02:33] <amphi> arnoud: no ;)
[02:33] <thegladiator> noo :(
[02:33] <arnoud> Ok
[02:33] <arnoud> I'm Dutch, and newbie for Ubuntu
[02:33] <mcphail> lupz: i honestly think this is a udev problem. Google your error message and you'll get plenty of hits
[02:33] <thegladiator> great , askway if you have any questions
[02:34] <brainiac_ghost> downloading dapper flight 4
[02:34] <brainiac_ghost> :D
[02:34] <stelki> Hello, can I in some way leave out new kernel images from the software update tool in ubuntu?
[02:34] <ao> i just installed unbuntu, and i still haven't figured out how to install my soundblaster 64 awe soundcard. It hasn't even recognize the hardware yet
[02:34] <lupz> mcphail: a does not exist error is quite difficult to google :)
[02:34] <amphi> arnoud: just new to ubuntu, or to linux in general?
[02:34] <arnoud> I will as soon as I stumble on probs!!!!!
[02:34] <stelki> so I dont accidently install a new one
[02:34] <mcphail> lupz: i've googled it before
[02:34] <arnoud> New 2 linux in general
[02:34] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: is it coming with xgl/compiz on it?
[02:34] <Quinch> Okay, Flash is installed... now for ActiveX....
[02:34] <brainiac_ghost> dorel, YES
[02:34] <brainiac_ghost> :D
[02:34] <thegladiator> i was new as well like a month or 2 back
[02:34] <thegladiator> gr8 Quinch
[02:34] <lupz> mcphail: i'm trying thanks :)
[02:35] <pm> Quinch what do you need activex for?
[02:35] <brainiac_ghost> bbl
[02:35] <arnoud> I was wondering how to install an ATI driver into Ubuntu
[02:35] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: leet :) which video card do i need for that?
[02:35] <Quinch> PM, trying to run CoH under WINE.
[02:35] <brainiac_ghost> dorel, a nvidia one
[02:35] <brainiac_ghost> :P
[02:35] <iceloki> hi, xorg 7.0 does not start with fglrx driver on dapper latest installed
[02:35] <brainiac_ghost> probably a 6x00
[02:35] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: alright :P
[02:35] <iceloki> anybody meet this problem?
[02:37] <amphi> arnoud: is your card supported by the free xorg driver?
[02:37] <amphi> arnoud: if you're not sure, 'man radeon' without quotes in a terminal would tell you
[02:38] <arnoud> Ok, where can i find that terminal?
[02:38] <arnoud> it is an ASUS 9500 card or something like that
[02:38] <brainiac_ghost> i hate cables that are impossible to get in
[02:38] <Quinch> Arnoud, Try the launcher-accessories-Terminal
[02:39] <Quinch> What's the official term for Ubuntu's "Start Menu" button anyway?
[02:39] <amphi> arnoud: lspci in a terminal will give you the name of your video card
[02:39] <thegladiator> ubuntu foot mayb ?
[02:39] <thegladiator> its callde the Menu
[02:40] <thegladiator> catually and that image is called ubuntu foot - logo I guess
[02:40] <marius_> does somebody have wine?
[02:40] <marius_> !tell about wine
[02:40] <arnoud>  radeon  is a Xorg driver for ATI RADEON based video cards.  It contains
[02:40] <arnoud>        full support for 8, 15, 16 and 24 bit pixel  depths,  dual-head  setup,
[02:40] <arnoud>        flat  panel, hardware 2D acceleration, hardware 3D acceleration (except
[02:40] <arnoud>        R300 and IGP series cards), hardware  cursor,  XV  extension,  Xinerama
[02:40] <arnoud>        extension.
[02:40] <marius_> !tell whine
[02:40] <marius_> !tell wine
[02:40] <amphi> arnoud: don't paste lots of stuff in here please
[02:40] <marius_> !info wine
[02:40] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[02:40] <arnoud> srry
[02:41] <eedge> Just installed 5.10 on my laptop with an Intel Pro wireless mini pci card...
[02:41] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell arnoud about paste
[02:41] <eedge> tried to follow the ipw2200 guide, now its fuggered :P
[02:41] <amphi> eedge: ipw2200?
[02:41] <marius_> wine?!
[02:41] <marius_> !wine
[02:42] <eedge> yes, see here amphi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[02:42] <marius_> !deb
[02:42] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:42] <eedge> now ubuntu dodesn
[02:42] <eedge> doesn't even recognise i have a wireless adapter.
[02:42] <eedge> not good.
[02:42] <amphi> eedge: it worked outta the box here, although the gui config thing seems to have no way of setting up an adhoc network, so I had to do it in an xterm with iwconfig
[02:42] <arnoud> OK I found the terminal and I looked up the card
[02:42] <arnoud> what now?
[02:43] <amphi> eedge: do have some bios hotkey to enable/disable the card there?
[02:43] <eedge> yeah, I didn't realise it worked out of the box... and now I've screwed it up :)
[02:43] <eedge> I don't think so.
[02:43] <theD3viL> why i can use Xv in mplayer or cant test (multimedia selector) ?
[02:43] <eedge> I think I've just messed up the modules and such.
[02:43] <[blah] > Im sharing a folder on this pc via smb, but when I try to connect to it through windows it asks for a username and pw.  How do I make it so it does not ask?
[02:43] <eedge> lol
[02:43] <amphi> eedge: does lsmod show the ipw2200 module loaded?
[02:44] <eedge> amphi, no it doesn't.
[02:44] <amphi> eedge: does modprobe ipw2200 work?
[02:44] <ao> can anyone help me out
[02:45] <eedge> FATAL: Module ipw2200 not found.
[02:45] <eedge> :)
[02:45] <xualo> anyone in here has system on raid?
[02:45] <amphi> eedge: it was removed by your abortive attempts to build a module from source? ;)
[02:45] <eedge> Yup :)
[02:46] <amphi> eedge: you could get the distro one back by doing apt-get install --reinstall <your_kernel_package>
[02:46] <eedge> how do I find out what my kernel package is>?
[02:46] <amphi> eedge: do uname -r to see what version, and do apt-cache search kernel to find the exact package name
[02:47] <marius_> heeey... How do i install wine?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell marius_ about wine
[02:47] <marius_> gnomefreak
[02:47] <marius_> the website is down
[02:47] <gnomefreak> :(
[02:47] <amphi> eedge: actually, apt-cache search '^kernel' will be better
[02:48] <xualo> anyone in here has a system with raid?
[02:48] <Cainus> hey...does anyone know if there's a way to turn off the firewall altogether?
[02:48] <tommi^> Oh I hate the 1.0 firefox which comes with breezy :(
[02:49] <gnomefreak> marius_: you do know the first "link" needs to be added to your sources.list than run sudo apt-get upddate
[02:49] <gnomefreak> update
[02:49] <marius_> kk
[02:50] <theD3viL> why i can use Xv in mplayer or cant test (multimedia selector) ?
[02:50] <marius_> There is it installed when i done it?
[02:50] <lijin> anyone here uses ubuntu on iMac G3?
[02:50] <eedge> sorry, what exactly am I looking for from apt-cache search '^kernel'
[02:51] <gnomefreak> marius_: run sudo apt-get update after you added the repo to your list than sudo apt-get install whatever wine you want
[02:51] <gnomefreak> or use synaptic
[02:51] <marius_> ehh huh?
[02:52] <marius_> apt-get install wine ??
[02:52] <gnomefreak> marius_: did you add the repo to your sources.list file?
[02:52] <marius_> the repo?
[02:53] <sovin> I am trying to use the cmd sudo apt-get install java-package but i get the error: 'Couldn't find package.'
[02:53] <eedge> amphi, sorry, what exactly am I looking for from apt-cache search '^kernel'
[02:53] <gnomefreak> marius_: add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list file deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[02:53] <thegladiator> sovin, did you follow from !restricted ?
[02:53] <thegladiator> !restricted
[02:53] <vader> sovin, try sudo apy-get install j2re
[02:53] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:53] <gnomefreak> !info java-package
[02:54] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[02:54] <amphi> eedge: a kernel package for the kernel you are currently running
[02:54] <chrishan> my god!
[02:54] <amphi> eedge: which uname -r will show you
[02:54] <sovin> i'll try that; thanks.
[02:54] <catfox> any ideas how i can load the keymaps in /usr/share/keymaps/mac ?
[02:54] <amphi> chrishan: why has he forsaken you? ;)
[02:55] <marius_> gnomefreak yeah and i synaptic its installed
[02:55] <catfox> i get lots of xmodmap:  unknown command on line mac-uk
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ok marius_ good
[02:55] <eedge> ok, hold on...
[02:55] <marius_> then what?
[02:56] <marius_> gnome afther the apt-get
[02:56] <gnomefreak> <<doesnt use wine but iirc the command would be wine file.exe
[02:56] <marius_> so?
[02:56] <whyameye> anybody know of a USB 2.0 hub that works in ubuntu? I just bought a d-link that doesn't...
[02:56] <lupz> some mirrors of the flight-4 of dapper ?
[02:56] <lupz> iso i mean
[02:56] <sovin> vader: if i'm trying to install the java sdk, do i replace j2re with jsdk?
[02:56] <marius_> kk
[02:56] <gnomefreak> sovin: yes
[02:56] <amphi> eedge: didja find it?
[02:56] <sovin> k
[02:56] <gnomefreak> sovin: you can install them both but sdk should have the runtime enviorn ment
[02:57] <krz_> is there any way to change the right click menu of mplayer? the text looks horrible
[02:57] <eedge> no, I didn't... uname -r shows 2.6.12 and I don't seen an 2.6.12 packages.
[02:57] <vader> gnomefreak, I am having one sitting here
[02:58] <sovin> !restricted
[02:58] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:58] <sovin> !java-package
[02:58] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sovin
[02:58] <catfox> any ideas how i can load the keymaps in /usr/share/keymaps/mac ?
[02:58] <amphi> catfox: loadkeys I believe
[02:59] <catfox> amphi, thanks i'll have a go
[02:59] <eedge> amphi, no, I didn't... uname -r shows 2.6.12 and I don't see an 2.6.12 packages. Closest I see is 2.6.11
[02:59] <lupz> some mirrors of the flight-4 iso of dapper ?
[02:59] <thegladiator> hey guys my screen shot ; tell me if you like it
[02:59] <thegladiator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8868
[02:59] <rics> Hi all
[02:59] <MasterC> hi
[02:59] <Alexi5> hello
[02:59] <vader> Seveas, I am having a problem, my system slows right down and even a reboot don't help it. I have tried ps aux and it gets a little better when I kill both evolution. but still really bad. any suggestions?
[02:59] <rics> Hey, show can I set the www of apache to be a directory on my home here in Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:00] <sovin> gladiator: its pretty cool.
[03:00] <thegladiator> thanks sovin
[03:00] <amphi> eedge: did you build your kernel yourself?
[03:00] <pinko> I like michael palin
[03:00] <amphi> eedge: I'm not on ubuntu ATM, so I can't check any of this stuff
[03:00] <amphi> rics: edit DocumentRoot in httpd.conf
[03:00] <MasterC> I am trying to install vncserver on dapper drake manually, beacause the package is broken. is vncserver tightvnc?
[03:01] <rics> amphi, where is it in the filesystem? I'm lost.
[03:01] <eedge> heh, no I didn't build the kernel myself...
[03:01] <sethk> MasterC, tightvnc is one of the vncserver releases
[03:01] <amphi> vader: top would show you what's eating your processor
[03:01] <MasterC> sethk: so I have to install tightvnc?
[03:01] <eedge> I just updated from 5.04 to 5.10 and my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386
[03:01] <vader> top? amphi what is that?
[03:01] <sethk> MasterC, there are several to choose from.  that one is a good as any
[03:01] <MasterC> okay :)
[03:02] <amphi> eedge: try COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep kernel perhaps
[03:02] <sethk> MasterC, I don't like vnc much, but from what I've heard tightvnc is a good distro of vnc
[03:02] <pinko> top isn't very good at that, really
[03:02] <eedge> ok, I'll try
[03:02] <xualo> eedge I just updated from 5.04 to 5.10 and my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386<--- thats not the latest kernel version tho...
[03:02] <Alexi5> linux is the best surf board
[03:02] <Alexi5> no viruses
[03:02] <eedge> maybe my update wasn't very good...
[03:02] <eedge> lol
[03:02] <amphi> pinko: huh? if you sort by processor usage it is; of course it doesn't show disk i/o per process
[03:02] <lijin> GLADIATOR: where was the background photo taken?
[03:02] <MasterC> sethk: I neet it for screen recording
[03:02] <MasterC> http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[03:03] <sethk> MasterC, it's probably ok for that, although there are surely better ways
[03:03] <sovin> lijin: i think america; maybe san francisco?
[03:03] <amphi> rics: /etc/apache should be
[03:03] <sovin> my guess
[03:03] <rics> amphi, thanks man
[03:03] <eedge> I didn't get any errors, and I followed the upgrade instructions from the wiki..
[03:03] <xualo> i thing the latest kernel its 2.6.15 or something like that :S
[03:03] <pinko> sometimes little processes are starting and stopping faster than top can notice them.
[03:03] <amphi> rics: in general, config stuff is likely to be in /etc/progname
[03:03] <vader> amphi, never mind figured it out when I ran it llol
[03:03] <sovin> question: will i have to enable multiverse/universe to use sudo apt-get install java-package?
[03:04] <MasterC> sethk: what are the better ways? tell me plz :)
[03:04] <_jason> sovin: yes, it is in multi
[03:04] <brainiac_ghost> gaim freezes my pc, i may have to try with 2.0 beta 2 but
[03:04] <gnomefreak> eedge: lsb_release -a  that will tell you what version you are using
[03:04] <brainiac_ghost> it is annoying
[03:04] <MasterC> sethk: flash output would be nice
[03:04] <brainiac_ghost> bbl
[03:04] <marius_> How do i start a program again if i have closed it?
[03:04] <MasterC> I know istanbull, but this ogg I think
[03:04] <rics> amphi, great... :D Will remember this in the future. I'm learning how to use Linux. It's great"
[03:04] <eedge> Release:        5.10
[03:04] <sethk> MasterC, I would just capture the network traffic.  Everything that happens on an X display goes through a connection to port 6000
[03:04] <eedge> ...
[03:05] <amphi> rics: the 'introduction to linux' book at http://tldp.org/ might be of use to you
[03:05] <MasterC> sethk: yes, but I want to have a video
[03:05] <lijin> anyone here knows will the performance be obviously increased if I take a 686 kernel? i am using intel centrino
[03:05] <eedge> well apparently I do have 5.10, but with an old kernel?
[03:05] <MasterC> sethk: and I dont want t have such a big video
[03:05] <sethk> MasterC, that just means you have to render it again.  But it is probably more complicated than you want to deal with.
[03:05] <sovin> sovin@sov-m-bb:/$ sudo apt-get install java-package Reading package lists... Done
[03:05] <sovin> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:05] <sovin> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[03:05] <MasterC> only 800*600
[03:05] <eedge> how have I done that through upgrade.
[03:05] <sethk> MasterC, if vnc does what you need, try it.
[03:06] <MasterC> yes
[03:06] <gnomefreak> eedge: kernel 2.6.12-10 is the lateset stable
[03:06] <rics> amphi, :D Will take a look at it.
[03:06] <sethk> MasterC, but it has such poor performance, I have my doubts about it capturing video
[03:06] <ibu> hey
[03:06] <marius_> amphi do you remeber me?
[03:06] <marius_> MjhZ
[03:06] <eedge> that would explain why I have 2.6.12-10 then, phew :)
[03:07] <gnomefreak> sovin: you need multiverse enabled
[03:07] <marius_> I found out what my problem was
[03:07] <ibu> i need help with my powerpc livecd for 5.10
[03:07] <eedge> It still doesn't explain why apt-cache search '^kernel'
[03:07] <eedge>  doesn't have anything mentioning that kernel...
[03:07] <gnomefreak> sovin: make sure its multiverse not backports that you have enabled
[03:07] <eedge> all I need to know is how I restore the modules I've messed up.
[03:07] <amphi> marius_: uhuh
[03:07] <eedge> for ipw2200
[03:08] <aleitner> xgl and compiz rock!!!! (;
[03:08] <amphi> eedge: just reinstall your kernel package
[03:08] <setrodox> i have a problem with compiling allegro4.2, as nobody was able to help me at #allegro and i nevre had that problem with any other linux distribution i thought i'd ask here
[03:08] <amphi> eedge: try apt-cache search linux perhaps
[03:08] <krz> whats an alternative to xmms?
[03:08] <krz> i think it has been forked right?
[03:09] <pinko> krz: xmms2
[03:09] <setrodox> i get a "lib/unix/liballeg-4.2.0.so: undefined reference to `system_xwin'" at the end of compiling allegro
[03:09] <xualo> xmms2???????
[03:09] <ibu> im trying to boot up 5.10 liveCD for my PPC. whenever i boot it up on my iMac G5, it loads a black screen saying boot: so i leave it blank and press enter then when the openfirmware screen comes up, it stays there and won't go away. whatever i type won't show, and the iMac fan just goes loud
[03:09] <amphi> eedge: if you've compiled your own kernel, building more recent ipw2200 drivers is pretty easy
[03:09] <pinko> xualo: search the web.  ubuntu might not have it.
[03:09] <setrodox> i never had that problem with other distributions
[03:09] <sovin> gnomefreak: i haven't done anything of the sort of enabling for multiverse or backports -- only a dl of the java 1.5 sdk.  what topic would your recommend me researching to get on the right track?
[03:09] <xualo> i didnt know there was xmms2 :S
[03:10] <xualo> im gonna donwload it
[03:10] <eedge> I havn't compiled my own kernel though! lol
[03:10] <setrodox> and i really need allegro 4.2...
[03:10] <pinko> you get a choice of GUI, or no GUI, and i'm not sure which one is best
[03:10] <pinko> still looking into it
[03:10] <eedge> how will I recognise the kernel package, what will it be called?...
[03:11] <amphi> eedge: it'll be called 'linux-$VERSION' I guess, or 'kernel-image-$VERSION'
[03:11] <sethk> setrodox, find someone who already has it installed, get them to run ldd on it for you, which will list the shared libraries it needs.  See which one(s) you are missing
[03:11] <amphi> eedge: did you try dpkg -l | grep kernel and dpkg -l | grep linux ?
[03:12] <setrodox>  wouldn't i get a compiler error because when a -dev package is missing also the headers are missing?
[03:12] <eedge> linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on 386.
[03:12] <eedge> linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
[03:12] <setrodox> sethk?
[03:12] <krz_> is there any way to change the right click menu of mplayer? the text looks horrible
[03:12] <amphi> eedge: you might want to prepend COLUMNS=200 to those commands to see the full package names
[03:12] <eedge> which do I want?
[03:12] <amphi> eedge: you want the kernel package with the same version as your running kernel
[03:12] <sovin> gnomefreak: oh, sorry -- just read your message above the last one; I'll look into enabling _multiverse_ then.  Thanks a bunch.
[03:12] <eedge> oh yeah, I've got 386 installed.
[03:12] <eedge> ok.
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sovin about multiverse
[03:13] <eedge> apt-get linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 then?
[03:13] <ibu> im trying to boot up 5.10 liveCD for my PPC. whenever i boot it up on my iMac G5, it loads a black screen saying boot: so i leave it blank and press enter then when the openfirmware screen comes up, it stays there and won't go away. whatever i type won't show, and the iMac fan just goes loud
[03:14] <gnomefreak> eedge: if you use synaptic it will be green and all you have to do is click reinstall
[03:14] <gnomefreak> ibu: do you have another live cd?
[03:15] <ibu> well i can burn another since i still have the .iso
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ibu: well that may not help if the iso is not good
[03:15] <djp> is it adviseable to not use backport repositories? i just wondered if using them would make upgrading problematic in the future?
[03:16] <eedge> I can see it in synaptic, its green but I reinstall is grayed out!
[03:16] <ibu> gnomefreak: ok then.. just incase ill try burning another one if it is good then i'll redownload if it doesn't work
[03:16] <ibu> thanks
[03:16] <gnomefreak> djp: they are not official and can cause issues
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ibu: burn it very very slow
[03:17] <ibu> ibu: 2x speed should i?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ibu: yes
[03:17] <ibu> gnomefreak:*
[03:17] <ibu> lol
[03:17] <ibu> ok
[03:17] <pinko> djp: not *that* problematic
[03:17] <ibu> thx
[03:17] <gnomefreak> eedge: im not sure why its greyed out
[03:17] <hatake_kakashi> !tell ibu about enter
[03:17] <djp> gnomefreak, thanks. what about universe? they are the only repos i was thinking of using. would they cause issues?
[03:17] <djp> pinko, ok thanks.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> djp: they should be fine
[03:18] <djp> cheers gnomefreak
[03:18] <gnomefreak> multiverse should be fine
[03:18] <gnomefreak> backports are fine most of time
[03:18] <eedge> its the only think I can't mark for reinstall,
[03:18] <krz_> whats the package name for bmp ?
[03:18] <eedge> grrrreat :)
[03:18] <eedge> lol
[03:18] <djp> great
[03:18] <krz_> forked music player of xmms
[03:18] <amphi> eedge: you got it to reinstall?
[03:19] <eedge> no.
[03:19] <eedge> its reinstall is grayed out in package manager.
[03:19] <sethk> eedge, hm, you have to figure out why
[03:20] <eedge> can I apt-get linux-image-2.6.10-5-386?
[03:20] <krz_> anyone?
[03:20] <eedge> no I can't, E: Invalid operation linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[03:20] <marius_> !tgz
[03:20] <ubotu> marius_: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:21] <hatake_kakashi> !info linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[03:21] <mcphail> eedge: apt-get _install_
[03:21] <hatake_kakashi> eedge: why would you want an older version of kernel?
[03:21] <_jason> marius_: ?
[03:21] <krz_> nobody knows?
[03:21] <eedge> thats apparently the latest stable version?
[03:22] <_jason> krz_: beep-media-player
[03:22] <marius_> mozcontrol.tgz <-- how can i install that?
[03:22] <krz_> thanks
[03:22] <_jason> marius_: what is it?
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> 2.6.12-10-686
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> eedge: that seems to be the latest version, but ignore the 686 bit, thats for PII, etc
[03:23] <marius_> _jason: mozcontrol.tgz <--- how do install that?
[03:23] <_jason> marius_: I need to know what it is
[03:23] <pinko> is it difficult to use an alternate xorg.conf?  I type xinit -- -config 2.conf and get a "cannot move old log file" error
[03:23] <marius_> its to a .exe program called steam
[03:23] <marius_> i have wine
[03:23] <eedge> ok, thank you I'll install 2.6.12
[03:24] <_jason> marius_: ah don't know anything about wine then, sorry
[03:24] <marius_> kk
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> eedge: np
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: is this for a game or something?
[03:25] <eedge> sorry, I allready do have 2.6.12-10
[03:25] <eedge> cant  sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[03:25] <eedge> becuase it's allready installed.,
[03:25] <eedge> how do I reinstall it?
[03:26] <_jason> eedge: --reinstall
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> why would you want to?
[03:26] <amphi> eedge: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[03:26] <eedge> katake_kakashi, I've messed up the ipw2200 module.
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> eedge: ahh ok, well what _jason and amphi said
[03:26] <krz_> how do you run bmp ?
[03:26] <krz_> i just isntalled it
[03:27] <_jason> krz_: applications menu > sound and video
[03:27] <eedge> amphi, thanks reinstalling it :)
[03:27] <eedge> I'll assume I should restart afterwards.
[03:27] <amphi> eedge: then modprobe ipw2200 should work, and your card should lourish ;)
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i thought i heard steam doesnt run on wine but not 100% sure since i dont use either
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> eedge: yes to use the kernel
[03:27] <eedge> but, amphi, whats the GUI wifi configuration you were talking about earlier?
[03:28] <eedge> I don't need to ad-hoc so it should make things easier.
[03:28] <amphi> eedge: if it's the same kernel you're running, no need to reboot, just modprobe the damn module already ;)
[03:28] <WarpZone> hello everybody, quick question
[03:28] <krz_> _jason, bmp isnt there
[03:29] <_jason> krz_: killall gnome-panel
[03:29] <WarpZone> I'm a non-linux user trying to switch over, not super programming savvy, and Gentoo was just too frustrating tryuing to config
[03:29] <WarpZone> think I'll have better luck with ubuntu?
[03:29] <eedge> I still can't see the module with lsmod.
[03:29] <pinko> WarpZone: yup.
[03:29] <lounis> hi, I'm trying xgl+compiz on ubuntu but I dont understand why all is white, do you have this problem too?
[03:29] <_jason> WarpZone: definitely
[03:29] <dlmmlb> i have insert uid=gid=1000 into /etc/fstab. but i can't ls mounted system. what's wrong?
[03:30] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: uid=1000,gid=1000
[03:30] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, it's the same
[03:30] <WarpZone> pink, is it still console-based? I don't want to rely too heavily on a GUI
[03:30] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: check your uid and your gid to see if it matches
[03:30] <elkbuntu> ubotu tell me about fonts
[03:31] <krz_> _jason, killall gnome-panel does what?
[03:31] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, yeah. i have type id.
[03:31] <_jason> krz_: restarts gnome-panel
[03:31] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: and you have checked that it matches?
[03:31] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, sure.
[03:31] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: which fs?
[03:31] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, ntfs
[03:31] <_jason> WarpZone: both options are there, you rely on what you want to.  It's great for beginners and experts alike
[03:32] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: very odd, it worked for me.. try removing uid=1000,gid=1000 and replace it with umask=0000
[03:32] <krz_> ahh thanks _jason  works like a charm
[03:33] <WarpZone> _jason: alright, I'm off to give it a try. Thanks for the info :-P
[03:33] <krz_> _jason, whenever i play an mp3 file. bmp just freezes. how come?
[03:33] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, doesn't work
[03:33] <_jason> krz_: only mp3's?
[03:34] <krz_> _jason, yea
[03:34] <krz_> so does xmms
[03:34] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: paste your /etc/fstab onto pastebin, something isn't right at all, those both methods work
[03:34] <_jason> krz_: how about totem?
[03:34] <krz> _jason totem works
[03:35] <marius_> i want to send a file from desktop to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[03:35] <marius_> can any1 give me the cmd line?
[03:35] <eedge> right, I restarted now the correct modules are running.
[03:35] <hatake_kakashi> krz: its probably because of the extra packages/plugins you have installed
[03:35] <eedge> amphi, how do I configure the connection then? Whats the gui configuration (my network isn't ad-hoc)
[03:35] <_jason> krz: don't know, make sure you are using the right output method but it doesn't sound like that is it
[03:35] <psYchotic> marius_, mv ~/Desktop/filename ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/.
[03:36] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, have you recevied it yet?
[03:36] <krz> hatake_kakashi so how should i fix this?
[03:36] <psYchotic> hello, I wonder if someone could help me with a little problem I have. In scintilla based apps (SciTE, geany), when I try to input a " (double quote) I get a  (diaeresis) instead. I'm using the US international with dead keys keyboard layout, and I can get the double quotes inserted in basically any other program
[03:36] <sorush20> how do I unload a module ?
[03:36] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: copy the url from that part and paste it here
[03:36] <amphi> eedge: I forget where exactly ;)
[03:37] <amphi> eedge: or you can just use ifconfig and iwnconfig in a term ;)
[03:37] <hatake_kakashi> krz: look at the plugins you have, disable any un-necesary ones, maybe that will work
[03:37] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, maybe i will got be kicked
[03:37] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, for flood
[03:37] <hatake_kakashi> sorush20: modprobe -r <module>
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> !tell dlmmlb about pastebin
[03:38] <eedge> ok, thank you. I'll try that.
[03:38] <Lvip> :<
[03:38] <graveson> just installed ubunu and upon first reboot and trying to login the system hangs any ideas
[03:38] <amphi> eedge: do you have a router that has dhcp?
[03:39] <_jason> graveson: what does it hang on?  brown screen?
[03:39] <Lvip> I personally have a few questions, but I have one pressing issue; "X won't start!"
[03:39] <graveson> jason : brown screen yes
[03:39] <krz> hatake_kakashi someone said that it might be because xmms/bmp is using the default support, not mp3
[03:39] <krz> or something like that
[03:39] <_jason> graveson: how comfortable are you editing files and such in a terminal?
[03:39] <eedge> yes.
[03:39] <graveson> jason : i am comfortable with that
[03:39] <eedge> I got as far as scanning for my router before.
[03:39] <eedge> I found it, set the ssid
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> krz: odd, well I don't use bmp, and xmms works with w32codecs along with gstreamer-mad
[03:40] <eedge> its open, so I tried to get dc
[03:40] <_jason> graveson: okay, hit ctrl+alf+f1, does that get you to tty1?
[03:40] <eedge> dhcp even
[03:40] <eedge> and it couldn't.
[03:40] <sovin> question: sudo is equal to a '#,' or root prompt, correct?
[03:40] <eedge> I set the router to find the client by mac and static dhcp it to 193.168.0.100
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> sovin: more or less, sudo is making root run the application
[03:40] <amphi> eedge: PM?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> sudo -i will get you the #
[03:40] <eedge> but thats when I messed up the modules.
[03:40] <psYchotic> graveson, AND don't forget that with ALT+F7 you can go back
[03:40] <graveson> jason : yes that gets me there ,but in a hang state i have to reboot and then type in ctrl-alt-f1 to go to the shell
[03:40] <eedge> PM = yes
[03:41] <sovin> kakashi: k, thanks.
[03:41] <brainiac_ghost> :D
[03:41] <Lvip> Moo, how do I get X to work?
[03:41] <Cainus> hey...anyone know how I can turn off the firewall stuff in ubuntu?
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> sovin: np
[03:41] <_jason> graveson: okay, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the section referring to your video card.  Change the Driver to "vesa".  reboot
[03:41] <Lvip> I just added "option "dri" "true"" in Section "Device" in /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> Cainus: by default, theres no configuration set for firewall
[03:41] <Lvip> To get direct rendering to work.
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 001
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 002
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 003
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 004
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 005
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 006
[03:41] <graveson> jason : okay let me give that a try
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 007
[03:41] <Lvip> But yet glxinfo turns me down.
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 008
[03:41] <_jason> dlmmlb: stop
[03:41] <dlmmlb> 009
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: er
[03:42] <dlmmlb> 
[03:42] <dlmmlb> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:42] <dlmmlb> #
[03:42] <krz> hatake_kakashi should i have an mp3 plugin in bmp?
[03:42] <dlmmlb> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:42] <dlmmlb> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:42] <gnomefreak> dlmmlb: use pastebin
[03:42] <Cainus> hatake_kakashi: seems like ports are being blocked though?  or am I wrong?
[03:42] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:42] <gandm> cainus which firewall do you have?
[03:42] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:42] <dlmmlb> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:42] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda1       /media/winc     ntfs    uid=1000,gid=1000               0      $/dev/hda5       /media/wind     ntfs    umask=0000              0       0
[03:42] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda6       /media/wing     ntfs    default         0       0
[03:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell dlmmlb about pastebin
[03:42] <Lvip> Too late.
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> krz: nfi
[03:42] <dlmmlb> jesus
[03:42] <elkbuntu> ubotu tell dlmmlb about pastebin
[03:42] <dlmmlb> sorry
[03:42] <Alex_BO> mcphail, hi!
[03:42] <Lvip> :( This channel is no fun in irssi.
[03:42] <Cainus> gandm: whatever the default one is... though now I'm not sure if there is a default one :)
[03:42] <Alex_BO> mcphail, thank you!
[03:42] <brainiac_ghost> hmm
[03:42] <_jason> Lvip: how come?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> lol Lvip how come
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> Cainus: no, do sudo iptables -L and paste it onto pastebin site
[03:42] <Lvip> When people flood.
[03:42] <Alex_BO> mcphail, i've modified the inode settings and now it works propely
[03:42] <gandm> cainus: as I recall there isn't ;)
[03:42] <krz> hatake_kakashi nfi?
[03:42] <Alex_BO> mcphail, thank you so much
[03:43] <brainiac_ghost> does dapper have a universe and multiverse?
[03:43] <airmikey> i plug external drive in usb port ,  but not mounting ..help please
[03:43] <Lvip> I have never been in such an active channel before.
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> krz: nfi
[03:43] <gnomefreak> Lvip: this channel is no fun in any client will flooding
[03:43] <gandm> cainus: but if you wanna try an easy one to set up, try "firestarter"
[03:43] <krz> hatake_kakashi what does nfi mean?
[03:43] <Lvip> I suppose.
[03:43] <gnomefreak> brainiac_ghost: yes
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: there is something wrong with your setup
[03:43] <Lvip> Nothing is fun when someone is flooding.
[03:43] <_jason> Lvip: /ignore #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS, helps
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> krz: no fscking idea
[03:43] <rhican> what's the default rootpw for the livecd?
[03:43] <brainiac_ghost> gnomefreak, YAY
[03:43] <Lvip> But I am still wanting X to work.
[03:43] <Cainus> gandm: I have one between this box and the internet, so I don't really need one
[03:43] <elkbuntu> Lvip, text usually doesnt fly past at 100lines/millisecond
[03:43] <gnomefreak> brainiac_ghost: but it does not have backports
[03:43] <xualo> HOW DO I KNOW MY GTK VERSION?
[03:44] <Lvip> :<
[03:44] <_jason> xualo: fix your caps lock first
[03:44] <gandm> so you don't seem to have a problem? ;)
[03:44] <Lvip> I dunno if i just ignored everything or something.
[03:44] <Cainus> hatake_kakashi: all of my rules are "(policy ACCEPT)"... without "DENY", does that mean nothing is blocked?
[03:44] <xualo> how do i know gtk version?
[03:44] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: paste the data from /etc/fstab onto the website (ubuntu.paste-nl.org), type your nick, and hit send, the address bar will change to a number appended to the end, copy and paste that here
[03:45] <gnomefreak> xualo: apt-cache policy gtk
[03:45] <Cainus> gandm: well azureus keeps whining about the p2p ports not being open
[03:45] <xualo> thank you
[03:45] <elkbuntu> should be gtk2 though
[03:45] <Cainus> thought it was a firewall thing, but it appears not now
[03:45] <hatake_kakashi> Cainus: more or less, like I said, there is no rules set for your firewall, unless if you ran some firewall script, etc. Otherwise no
[03:45] <_jason> xualo: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[03:45] <MrRio> i know this will probably lead to the imement untested-DEATH of my box but, how do I upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[03:45] <hatake_kakashi> MrRio: its mentioned on the site
[03:45] <gandm> Cainus: strange... are you sure that your hardware firewall is set-up correctly?
[03:45] <Lvip> Pfft.
[03:46] <xualo> it say this thing (root@linux:/# apt-cache policy gtk
[03:46] <xualo> W: Unable to locate package gtk)
[03:46] <MrRio> hatake_kakashi: the wiki?
[03:46] <Lvip> I'll try it myself then.
[03:46] <rhican> can you mount your drives using the livecd.
[03:46] <rhican> ?
[03:46] <hatake_kakashi> MrRio: probably
[03:46] <brainiac_ghost> xualo, apt-cache policy gtk+
[03:46] <hatake_kakashi> rhican: yes
[03:46] <MrRio> hatake_kakashi: k. ta
[03:46] <Cainus> gandm: yeah... I'm sure about that... had it working on this box before installing ubuntu
[03:46] <gnomefreak> xualo: try it with the version as _jason said above
[03:46] <dlmmlb> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:46] <dlmmlb> #
[03:46] <dlmmlb> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:46] <dlmmlb> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:46] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:46] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:46] <dlmmlb> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:46] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda1       /media/winc     ntfs    uid=1000,gid=1000               0      $/dev/hda5       /media/wind     ntfs    umask=0000              0       0
[03:46] <gnomefreak> dlmmlb: use pastebin
[03:46] <hatake_kakashi> xualo: apt-cache search gtk
[03:46] <_jason> dlmmlb: ...
[03:46] <dlmmlb> /dev/hda6       /media/wing     ntfs    default         0       0
[03:46] <dlmmlb> don't work
[03:47] <sovin> score! I got jsdk installed! Do I need the .deb or .bin file I made/downloaded on my desktop anymore or can I delete them?
[03:47] <moonunit> could someone help me install a program, say chromium-0.9
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: you didn't follow my instructions fully
[03:47] <dlmmlb> how it looks?
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: I'll pm you
[03:47] <gnomefreak> dlmmlb: dont know its not in pastebin
[03:47] <Lvip> How... do I get Direct Rendering to work on a Intel i810 Mobile Graphics Controller?
[03:47] <_jason> sovin: you can delete it
[03:47] <CoolKast> is it normal when i copy files over wlan at 54mbps synced with smb to a windows share i only get 200kBps?
[03:47] <gandm> Cainus: As I'm a beginner myself what I would do is the following: get firestarter, cause it eases the pain in administer the firewall... you don't have to go through iptables and so on
[03:47] <Lvip> Yes, I am on a laptop.
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: check your PM (Private Message)
[03:48] <xualo> hatake_kakashi xualo: apt-cache search gtk<--------- wow!
[03:48] <pm> im not his!!!!!
[03:48] <Cainus> gandm: grabbing it...thanks
[03:48] <_jason> xualo: apt-get moo, is more amazing
[03:48] <gandm> Cainus: hope it helps
[03:48] <moonunit> _jason, ive run into an installer that is a little foggy, got a minute?
[03:48] <_jason> moonunit: sure, just ask
[03:48] <xualo> lol lets see
[03:48] <graveson> jason: that worked ,is the driver incorrect or not configured properly ?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> oh thats sweet :)
[03:48] <_jason> graveson: yeah, what card do you have?
[03:49] <moonunit> _jason, http://www.reptilelabour.com/software/chromium/download.htm
[03:49] <Cainus> gandm: you know of any servers that run by default on ubuntu that I could check?
[03:49] <Lvip> Also; Why does my Ubuntu crash from time to time on my desktop?
[03:49] <xualo> hahahahaha ----->apt-get moo
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> xualo: if you want to see which one you have installed, go dpkg --list| grep gtk
[03:49] <xualo> cool
[03:49] <xualo> thank you
[03:49] <Cainus> gandm: I want to see if I can connect to this box at all from another on the network
[03:49] <krz> does gdesklets use a lot of memory?
[03:49] <xerophyte> How hard to learn php,perl,python and bash ??
[03:50] <hatake_kakashi> xualo: np
[03:50] <_jason> xerophyte: depends on how much you want to learn them
[03:50] <CoolKast> is it normal when i copy files over wlan at 54mbps synced with smb to a windows share i only get 200kBps?
[03:50] <moonunit> xerophyte, perl isnt too hard.
[03:50] <xerophyte> _jason, to decent amount because ineed to hack few programs
[03:50] <gandm> Cainus: would be quite difficult to do because you would only get the status of your hw firewall, no?
[03:50] <_jason> xerophyte: bash is probably the one that will be the hardest, the other things there aren't too bad
[03:51] <_jason> moonunit: what did you do?  just ./configure and make?
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> bash isn't that hard imo
[03:51] <xerophyte> _jason,  perl i wanna hack webmin, python i use it for other scripts and cherrrypy, php  i wanna hack drupal, vtiger, oscommerce and other php application
[03:51] <Cainus> gandm: well no... because the other PCs are behind that hw firewall too... so it's a non-issue
[03:51] <moonunit> _jason, thats the part that has me confused.
[03:51] <Cainus> i'm not really worried about getting hacked by someone else in my apartment ;)
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: what IRC client are you using?
[03:51] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, x-chat
[03:51] <gandm> Cainus: hehe... that might be true ;)
[03:52] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: ok do you see a new tab with my nick on it? if so click on it and type your message there
[03:52] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, did you recevie my message?
[03:52] <_jason> dlmmlb: you have to be registered
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> hm
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: register your nick
[03:53] <monday> no
[03:53] <marius_> Hey where can i download the GSM codec
[03:53] <_jason> moonunit: what is this thing?
[03:53] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, ok
[03:53] <gnomefreak> dlmmlb: in server tab type /msg nickserv register <password>
[03:53] <moonunit> its a game
[03:54] <MrRio> hatake_kakashi: hmm, cant find info on the wiki, can u give me a pointer on what to look for?
[03:54] <_jason> moonunit: where is it now?  desktop?
[03:54] <moonunit> yeah, i extracted the .tar files
[03:54] <_jason> moonunit: ok, opena  terminal
[03:55] <moonunit> okay, terminals running
[03:55] <hatake_kakashi> MrRio: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-88746.html
[03:55] <dlmmlb> ok. i have registered
[03:55] <_jason> moonunit: cd to the directory that extracted
[03:55] <philuk861> hi, everytime i start kaffine i have to go through the installation wizard because it doesnt save my preferences. what do i need to do to fix it. (ubuntu 5.10)
[03:55] <graveson> jason : i have an ATI Radeon
[03:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell graveson about ati
[03:56] <graveson> Jason : all in wonder X600 series
[03:56] <_jason> graveson: ubotu sent you some info on installing ati drivers
[03:57] <airmikey> any 1 runnning 64 bit
[03:57] <moonunit> _jason, ive got 2 files, ones data, the other is SRC
[03:57] <MisterN> airmikey: me.
[03:57] <moonunit> check out the link that i sent you earlier, and walk me through the install
[03:57] <airmikey> u have any problem with usb
[03:57] <_jason> moonunit: you extracted both right?, cd to the SRC and tell me the path to the data one
[03:57] <moonunit> alright.
[03:57] <MisterN> airmikey: well i have problems with my external hdd
[03:58] <MisterN> my usb mouse works nicely
[03:58] <airmikey> yeah me too
[03:58] <MisterN> so does my usb printer
[03:58] <thegladiator> i have had problem with externall hdd
[03:58] <thegladiator> but I dont bother to fix it
[03:58] <Cainus> geeez...guess my azureus install is borked
[03:58] <xualo> whats a splash screens? its a background pic?
[03:58] <dop182> hello
[03:59] <Cainus> anyone know if there's a way to install azureus from apt-get ?
[03:59] <Cainus> I could do it in plain debian with a one-liner
[03:59] <airmikey> cainus: go to stater guide
[03:59] <thegladiator> Cainus, its hava appliaction
[03:59] <thegladiator> java*
[03:59] <gnomefreak> Cainus: no you cant install it from apt-get ill have ubotu send you instructions
[04:00] <Cainus> k thanks
[04:00] <xualo> ahh i got it
[04:00] <thegladiator> download azurues and install java and u are done
[04:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Cainus about azureus
[04:00] <thegladiator> make sure you have JAVA TM sun
[04:00] <gnomefreak> there you go Cainus
[04:00] <sovin> gnomefreak: can you have ubotu tell me as well?
[04:00] <sovin> about azureus.
[04:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sovin about azureus
[04:01] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell sovin about azureus
[04:01] <sovin> ty
[04:01] <thegladiator> oh :)
[04:01] <Cainus> hmm  maybe I didn't have multiverse
[04:01] <airmikey> mistern: 32 bit breezy picks up my external ...dont understand why 64 bit doesnt..hmmm
[04:01] <gnomefreak> sovin: you can also type /msg ubotu azureus
[04:01] <psychomancer> j/ #ubuntu.de
[04:01] <gnomefreak> or anyother facts you want to know
[04:01] <hypn0> :-D
[04:01] <IdleOne> PsyberOne:  /j #ubuntu-de
[04:02] <raf256> why I cant install  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/gnome/anjuta
[04:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Cainus about multiverse
[04:02] <IdleOne> oiops psychomancer
[04:02] <MisterN> airmikey: oh for me it is picked up and everything it's just that it kills my system (100% load and shutdown does not work any more)
[04:02] <gnomefreak> raf256: do you have universe enabled?
[04:03] <moonunit> _jason, im in the SRC, path to the DATA is /home/tyler/Desktop/chromium\ data
[04:03] <airmikey> mistern: u running ..5.04  , 5.10  or 6.0
[04:03] <MisterN> airmikey: 6.04
[04:03] <_jason> moonunit: 'export CHROMIUM_DATA=/home/tyler/Desktop/chromium\ data'
[04:04] <moonunit> in terminal?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> MisterN: did you run the latest updates?
[04:04] <psychomancer> know you a website where i can learning making a forum with html ?
[04:04] <_jason> moonunit: yeah
[04:04] <MisterN> gnomefreak: from when?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> MisterN: if you are talking about when you go to reboot or shut down gnome hangs
[04:04] <gnomefreak> MisterN: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:04] <krz> how come i cant run ~/.xinitrc
[04:05] <MisterN> gnomefreak: i'll use synaptic
[04:05] <krz> anyone?
[04:05] <moonunit> _jason, done, now what?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> MisterN: the newest X updates fixed it here
[04:06] <MisterN> gnomefreak: oh i installed some X updates today
[04:06] <_jason> moonunit: wait, I just download these files and when I extracted it, I got a different directory structure.  How did you extract?
[04:06] <xualo> how install a splash screen?
[04:06] <moonunit> _jason, archive manager
[04:06] <_jason> xualo: system > admin > login screen
[04:07] <xualo> thanks ^^
[04:07] <_jason> moonunit: ok, do this: delete what's there and just right click on each of the .tar.gz files and click 'extract here'
[04:08] <whyameye> krz: I don't have a ~/.xinitrc. I don't think that is set up in gnome. What are you trying to do?
[04:08] <krz> whyameye trying to add some configuration settings for conky
[04:09] <moonunit> _jason, done
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> you can always make a .xinitrc
[04:09] <whyameye> krz: sorry, I don't know anything about conky
[04:09] <whyameye> Dr_Willis: is .xinitrc basically a script which will run every time X starts?
[04:09] <_jason> moonunit: that put everything in one folder called Chromium-0.9 right?
[04:09] <MisterN> gnomefreak: ok obviously i already installed the updates which helper for you. i am a bit reluctant to try though :)
[04:09] <whyameye> Dr_Willis: or is it a directory?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> whyameye,  its a script thats read by nomally when you use the 'startx' command to start up X.
[04:10] <_eedge> how do I ghost kick myself? my connection was cut.
[04:10] <Alexi5> does anyone here use xubuntu
[04:10] <moonunit> no, ive got 2 files, seprate
[04:10] <whyameye> Dr_Willis: so will it run when you start Gnome?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> whyameye,  No.
[04:10] <Alexi5> i just want to know if it uses less resources than gnome
[04:10] <Kyral> _eedge: are you registered with NickServ?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> whyameye,  you can make IT start gnome if you dont want to use kdm/gdm/xdm as a graphical login tool.
[04:10] <_eedge> yes, I am.
[04:10] <_eedge> under name eedge, I'm still here though
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> Alexi5,  i would say yes. XFCE uses less resources then gnome.
[04:11] <Gecko> Hello. I have some files on my system with a timestamp in the future, preventing me from running sudo. How do I fix that?
[04:11] <Kyral> _eedge: then the command (I think) is /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <password>
[04:11] <digitalfox> is there a package for esddsp anymore in breezy?
[04:11] <_eedge> ah, thanks :)
[04:11] <Kyral> np
[04:11] <_eedge> haha, should have thought of that.
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: xfce is broken :(
[04:11] <gnomefreak> well in dapper atleast
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  and it has other oddities as well. :P
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  heh - everything can be broken in dapper... and i also saw it was broke in dapper.. but  dont confuse people here. Lol..
[04:12] <moonunit> _jason, i cant get both to extract to a single file
[04:12] <Kyral> gnomefreak: They are transitioning to the new version
[04:12] <gnomefreak> digitalfox: if it was in breezy after release its still there
[04:12] <ruudb> when i minimize a running app the icon won't show at the bottom panel anymore. how do i restore this
[04:12] <gnomefreak> lol Dr_Willis
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> tested out the new xfce on a few live cd's its worth the wait.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:12] <digitalfox> gnomefreak, it wasn't, it disappeared in the update
[04:12] <_jason> moonunit: you just right click and press 'extract here'
[04:12] <_jason> moonunit: one at a time
[04:12] <gnomefreak> Kyral: i know im waiting for it :)
[04:12] <digitalfox> which is really annoying, because aoss isn't doing the trick for SimCity 3000
[04:12] <moonunit> _jason, done, but i have 2 folders, not just one
[04:12] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: good :)
[04:13] <moonunit> one for src, one for data
[04:13] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, i lost my connection. i am back now.
[04:13] <whyameye> Is there an app to intercept serial communication and see what is coming in and out of the serial port as it is passed thru?
[04:13] <elkbuntu> Dr_Willis, do you know an eta for the xfce updates at all? i've been wondering also
[04:13] <_jason> moonunit: are you sure you don't get a Chromium-0.9 directory?
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: ok
[04:14] <Cainus> I'm doing apt-get install j2re1.4, but it's not finding the package... I have added a bunch of repositories from the docs, and done an update too... anyone wanna throw me a clue?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> elkbuntu,  'when its done' :P lol.. no clue.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> !java
[04:14] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:14] <moonunit> _jason, ive got chromium-src-0.9.12.tar.gz and chromium-data-0.9.12.tar.gz
[04:14] <Nox|> hi all
[04:14] <raf256> pipicz2: hello
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium
[04:14] <ubotu> chromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[04:14] <End11> how easy is it to get xgl running on ubuntu? has anybody tried it?
[04:14] <Stormx2> How do I get into GNOME from console?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: just a guess here but i would think another week or so atleast
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> Stormx2: usually 'startx' should do it
[04:15] <_jason> Dr_Willis: thanks didn't even think to try :)
[04:15] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: applications>accessoies>terminal
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> End11,  i tried it.. was fairly simple.. but DONT try it. :P it dident work worth a *$&#&#
[04:15] <raf256> End11: probably not, it's still verry experimental isnt it
[04:15] <whyameye> Stormx2: if it running, <CTRL><ALT>f7. If not, sudo gdm
[04:15] <gnomefreak> oh opps
[04:15] <_jason> moonunit: Dr_Willis just informed us that you can just do 'sudo apt-get install chromium'
[04:15] <raf256> pipicz2: hi
[04:15] <End11> heh ok. i just saw some demo vids and they looked pretty sweet
[04:15] <Cainus> Dr_Willis: yeah I did what that doc suggests... still no luck...
[04:15] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: lol?
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> Stormx2: startx is the safest option
[04:15] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, cool. it'll be nice to have a good explore of it when it comes through
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> End11,  lots of more eye candy.
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: the answer i gave you was for a question you didnt ask :(
[04:16] <moonunit> _jason, i dont like him much anymore
[04:16] <mcphail> Stormx2: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:16] <_jason> hehe
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Ive installed that game dozens of times with apt-get.
[04:16] <moonunit> _jason, where are you anyway?
[04:16] <raf256> why I cant install  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/gnome/anjuta
[04:16] <moonunit> Dr_Willis, thank you.
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: you still there? if so, check my private message
[04:16] <_jason> moonunit: what do you mean?
[04:16] <moonunit> like, country
[04:17] <_jason> moonunit: usa
[04:17] <gnomefreak> raf256: did you enable universe
[04:17] <moonunit> right,
[04:17] <moonunit> thank you much everyone.
[04:17] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, i am here. i have recevied your private message. it works know.
[04:17] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: ok
[04:18] <dlmmlb> hatake_kakashi, thanks
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> dlmmlb: np
[04:18] <Cainus> hey...can anyone give me a definitive list of repositories?  apt-get can't find java or azureus, and I've enabled every repository in the default file, and I've done an apt-get update
[04:18] <raf256> gnomefreak: I think no
[04:18] <raf256> gnomefreak: how to install it?
[04:18] <dlmmlb> ok. it seems i got to bed now.
[04:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell raf256 about universe
[04:18] <ruudb> install automatix. You can select then the wanted apps
[04:18] <gnomefreak> ruudb: no
[04:18] <gnomefreak> dont use automatix
[04:18] <raf256> ubotu tell pipicz2  about universe
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> !tell ruudb about automatix
[04:19] <gnomefreak> and please dont advise people to use it
[04:19] <ruudb> I have done so
[04:19] <whyameye> !automatix
[04:19] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:19] <freeflying> hi guys , anyone have used projector on ibook with ubuntu installed
[04:19] <blacking> hello all..
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> 'friends dont let friends use automatix'
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:19] <sovin> gnomefreak, _jason, and gladiator: thanks ALOT for all the help; I couldn't of gotten bluej/java to run without you guys!
[04:19] <gnomefreak> use easyubuntu instead
[04:19] <ruudb> Ooops
[04:19] <sovin> i'm off to get back to my hw =)
[04:19] <sovin> bye!
[04:19] <whyameye> !easyubuntu
[04:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:20] <_jason> sovin: np
[04:20] <blacking> somebody know has build a floppy to start Ubuntu breezy?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  heh - i dont think thats much better. :P   but heck - i feel people should learn how to do it the 'standard' way.
[04:20] <gnomefreak> blacking: no there havent been anyone that has build it in floppy that has come forth and said
[04:20] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: me too
[04:20] <ruudb> A simply uninstall of automatix will be enough to restore to the safe situation?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: i dont even know what those apps do :(
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> ruudb,  nope - thats a problem withit.
[04:21] <Stormx2> (15:20:54) [0]  Me: why don't ya like ubuntu, out of interest?
[04:21] <Stormx2> (15:21:03) [0]  Tom: nothing to do
[04:21] <blacking> my BIOS wont start USB mode
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> plus theres all the OTHER problems with it. :P
[04:21] <amphi> Stormx2: he could actually _use_ the computer for something ;)
[04:22] <Alexi5> where can i get themes for ubuntu
[04:22] <gangsta> anyone else has the problem that Opengl is managed bij Mesa istead of fglrx
[04:22] <blacking> i have a small ubuntu Linu inside my stick usb, how can make to test is?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: www.gnome-look.com art.gnome.org
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Alexi5,  you mean themes for "GNOME" ?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> Stormx2: if that user has nothing to do, recommend him to try LFS
[04:22] <Alexi5> nice
[04:23] <marius_> it was fun to try linux
[04:23] <gnomefreak> lol hatake_kakashi that will give him alot to do :)
[04:23] <Stormx2> (15:21:15) [0]  Me: well what do you want out of a linux distro?
[04:23] <Stormx2> (15:21:53) [0]  Tom: ubuntu type package system and i dunno
[04:23] <Stormx2> (15:21:58) [0]  Tom: something to fuckin do all day :P
[04:23] <Stormx2> (15:22:01) [0]  Tom: maybe stick to 'doze
[04:23] <Stormx2> (15:22:16) [0]  Me: yeah, least then you have to wait around for stuff to load
[04:23] <bismark> hi
[04:23] <marius_> can i have to OS on one time?
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> gnomefreak: that's the whole purpose behind it :)
[04:23] <elfstone> marius_, you do not make sense...
[04:23] <gnomefreak> hatake_kakashi: i know :( its really not as hard as i thought it would be though
[04:23] <marius_> can i have windows and linux?
[04:23] <elfstone> yes
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> gnomefreak: hard but not impossible
[04:23] <marius_> On one time
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: yea
[04:23] <elfstone> that's called double boot
[04:23] <marius_> kk
[04:23] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: is there a reason you are flooding the room with that?
[04:23] <marius_> brb:P
[04:24] <elfstone> =)
[04:24] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: Its ubuntu based ;)
[04:24] <`J1> Hello?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: its not support based
[04:24] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: also be better in pastebin
[04:24] <blacking> please help if possible..
[04:24] <`J1> I need wmv condecs for totem???
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell blacking about install
[04:24] <moonunit> is there a way to specify an install directory with apt-get?
[04:24] <hatake_kakashi> !tell `J1 about wmv
[04:24] <hatake_kakashi> moonunit: why? you can't
[04:25] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: A lot of the things which go on in here arn't strictly support.
[04:25] <gangsta> i need to get my direct rendering back
[04:25] <moonunit> hatake_kakashi, ive just never done it
[04:25] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: they should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> Stormx2: there's a channel for that, its called #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:25] <iGad_zZzZ> hmz?
[04:25] <Stormx2> I know.
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> moonunit: you can't, different programs, etc are stored in different locations, you can't just ask to make it install in a certain part
[04:25] <Stormx2> I'm simply saying it goes on in here regardless >.<
[04:26] <moonunit> okay.
[04:26] <hatake_kakashi> Stormx2: like previously said, there is no point rambling on in here, this still remains a support channel rather than converting users to ubuntu
[04:27] <hatake_kakashi> I mean in the context of constant debates, if they have switched this place is for such support, not for any debates between such OS differences
[04:27] <Stormx2> hatake_kakashi: I know. I'm simply supporting his undertaking to use ubuntu ;-)
[04:28] <raf256> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-cc6cd88d1cfcee04046db3031e9fe1af3a3d05dc
[04:28] <raf256> while enabling Universe
[04:28] <raf256> I see no "universe" in edit of my repository source
[04:28] <raf256> should Universe be put next to "main"?
[04:28] <raf256> like:  main universe multiverse
[04:28] <ideafix> i creently have cosmos enabled
[04:28] <hatake_kakashi> Stormx2: no, you are not making any sense, his comments is already showing rejection rather than anything else, and besides its rolling close to OT, again I must stress, this is not the place for such conversation to debate such differences
[04:29] <raf256> also, what to add to have xmss, mplayer, dvd and such
[04:29] <gnomefreak> raf256: yes like that
[04:29] <ideafix> i currently have cosmos enabled
[04:29] <gangsta> is there a fglrx howto for ubuntu somewhere ?
[04:29] <raf256> gnomefreak: what is the list of ALL
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[04:29] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:29] <gnomefreak> !sources
[04:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:29] <raf256> like: I fuck the goverment and/or not live in the land of terrorists (usa) and I want to have DVD and MP3 softare
[04:29] <gangsta> ubotu: ill look thanks
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> gangsta,  the ubuntu wiki and forums are our friend! :P
[04:29] <ubotu> gangsta: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <raf256> the description in Wiki is not good
[04:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell raf256 about coc
[04:29] <raf256> I think I will update it
[04:30] <Stormx2> hatake_kakashi: Whatever you say, I can't go back in time and take those posts away =)
[04:30] <ideafix> ubuntu is much better looking than vista
[04:30] <raf256> main universemultiverse  yes?
[04:30] <elfstone> raf256, don't worry, the EC is slowly adapting US laws
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:30] <hatake_kakashi> Stormx2: well then there should be no need to go on posting the convo between you and 'tom'
[04:31] <elfstone> so we'll all soon be in drm land
[04:31] <Stormx2> hatake_kakashi: There was at the time ;)
[04:31] <ideafix> yes fight the war on terror is a global goal
[04:31] <raf256> elfstone: allah akbar \o/ ;)
[04:31] <Stormx2> ideafix: Vista would kill this box. My phone has more memory in it than this one
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> Stormx2: no
[04:31] <raf256> is "main universemultiversere stricted" good?
[04:32] <elfstone> ;)
[04:32] <raf256> or do "stricted" remove some ?
[04:32] <Stormx2> hatake_kakashi: no
[04:32] <elkbuntu> Stormx2, forget the box, think of your soul ;)
[04:32] <ideafix> can you run bitorrent on your phone ?
[04:33] <Stormx2> elkbuntu: Indeed. Mind you, I have yet to find a good graphics editor for linux. I can't stand GIMP
[04:33] <Stormx2> ideafix: I wish
[04:33] <brainiac_ghost> ext3 or reiser
[04:33] <brainiac_ghost> :)
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> I actually perfer gimp. :P
[04:33] <ideafix> im looking for a toturial to get bitorrnt running on my mobile phone
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> to each their own i guess...
[04:33] <elkbuntu> Stormx2, i quite like gimp
[04:33] <hatake_kakashi> brainiac_ghost: ext3 in most cases
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> I like gimp better then some of the ones ive paid $$ for. :P
[04:33] <brainiac_ghost> hatake_kakashi, why, reiser is faster
[04:33] <ideafix> it was java so it should run
[04:33] <elkbuntu> i get lost if i try use photoshop now
[04:34] <brainiac_ghost> just ext3 may be more stable
[04:34] <brainiac_ghost> :)
[04:34] <krz_> how do you change the skin of gxine
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> I could never afford photoshop.
[04:34] <blacking> ok thanks
[04:34] <hatake_kakashi> brainiac_ghost: reiser is faster on small file chunks
[04:34] <elkbuntu> since i never installed photoshop on this computer, i've used gimp instead even on windows
[04:34] <krz_> there nothing in the menu that indicates it
[04:34] <brainiac_ghost> hatake_kakashi, i see
[04:34] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: None of us can, doesn't mean we don't use it ;-)
[04:34] <hondadarrell> yo! anyone know where the codecs are for dapper on the universes?
[04:34] <krz_> gimp is terrible
[04:34] <hatake_kakashi> brainiac_ghost: and if you want to compare it like that you might as well choose xfs, xfs is beter
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  that proves its a rip off then eh?
[04:34] <hatake_kakashi> s/beter/better
[04:34] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: Indeed.
[04:34] <brainiac_ghost> hatake_kakashi, but XFS is crap with power cuts
[04:35] <_mindspin> elkbuntu: although offtopic, can you tell me why the "stamp" tool doesnt work on some jpgs ?
[04:35] <hatake_kakashi> brainiac_ghost: apparently that was fixed :P
[04:35] <gnomefreak> hondadarrell: there are codecs for breezy they may work in dapper but for dapper packages like that you will need to wait till after the release
[04:35] <elkbuntu> _mindspin i rarely use stamp tool, so i really dont know
[04:35] <hatake_kakashi> brainiac_ghost: don't try and compare the differences with apples
[04:35] <ideafix> Amaranth how do you get @ubuntu/member/amaranth hostname ?
[04:36] <Amaranth> ideafix: I'm an ubuntu member
[04:36] <ideafix> have you contribuited to freenode fund ?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> as for the pic editors there a some on sourceforge.net  yes free
[04:36] <Amaranth> no, i've contributed to ubuntu development
[04:36] <Amaranth> and to the community
[04:36] <elfstone> ideafix, that's a private matter, don't you think... ?
[04:36] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, m/any of them comparable to gimp?
[04:36] <_mindspin> ideafix doesn't care
[04:37] <ideafix> private yes
[04:37] <elfstone> :)
[04:37] <ideafix> you put that remarcaly well
[04:37] <ideafix> indeed
[04:37] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: dont know
[04:37] <raf256>  Unable to find expected entry  universemultiversere/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[04:37] <Amaranth> I haven't given lilo any money, but only because I'm broke too. :)
[04:37] <raf256> wtf? gnomefreak ?
[04:37] <raf256> after adding universe mutiverse main
[04:37] <Amaranth> raf256: multiverse
[04:37] <BotLobsta> I have a dual monitor layout and i need help configuring it.  I tried one method but all that did was switch the monitor that the desktop displayed on.
[04:37] <raf256> Amaranth: yes I added it
[04:37] <Amaranth> raf256: you spelled it wrong
[04:37] <raf256> Amaranth: U know
[04:37] <gnomefreak> raf256: paste you sources.list file in pastebin please
[04:38] <raf256> I know it is ok there
[04:38] <raf256> gnomefreak: ok
[04:38] <elkbuntu> raf256, hes saying you've typo'd
[04:38] <ideafix> so i should develope to ubuntu in exchange to privacy ?
[04:38] <ideafix> so i should develope to ubuntu in exchange of privacy ?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> raf256: multiverse not mutiverse
[04:38] <elkbuntu> raf256, or multiversere
[04:39] <Janne_doe> hi all
[04:39] <ideafix> hi kid
[04:39] <Janne_doe> ^^
[04:39] <ideafix> ^^
[04:40] <gnomefreak> ideafix: there are a bunch of ways to contribute see ubuntus home page for details
[04:41] <ideafix> then i can have my hostname masked ?
[04:41] <BotLobsta> any help with the dual dusplay?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> ideafix: dont know but if your gonna contribute to ubuntu just for that i dont advise it
[04:41] <Gnumannen> Ubuntu LiveCD can't find my sata harddrive, how may I fix it?
[04:41] <ideafix> why ?
[04:41] <tafsen> I've downloaded a demo version of the Game Northland. It's *.run file. How do I install it?
[04:42] <ideafix> so theres more to gain ?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> ideafix: what do you mean gain?
[04:42] <_mindspin> maybe respect?
[04:42] <moonunit> i just downloaded the game abuse, but i dont get sound, so i downloaded the SFX for it, but i still have no sound, when i run from terminal it tells me that it was
[04:42] <moonunit> '
[04:42] <gnomefreak> ideafix: ubuntu is free in all sences of the word we dont gain anything for helping people but we do it
[04:42] <moonunit> 'unable to open audio, no available audio device'
[04:43] <ideafix> ubuntu is free to hack ?
[04:43] <moonunit> any ideas?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ideafix: yes
[04:43] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  the satisfaction of making another new ubuntu user happy he switched ()
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ideafix: read the gpl
[04:44] <gangsta> damn fglrx i followed te howto and still get no direct rendering
[04:44] <Amaranth> IdleOne: I do it because it's fun trying to manage 600 people at a time. :)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> lol its a beast some days :)
[04:44] <krz> i just installed mplayer and now totem plays the movie file without audio
[04:44] <krz> why is this?
[04:46] <ideafix> i ear ubuntu dosent even have a firewall i guess that tells you somthing about how free it is :)
[04:46] <MenZa> Why would you want a firewall?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> ideafix: it doesnt?
[04:46] <pianoboy3333> I have an ndiswrapper problem, can someone help me? Take a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=750010#post750010
[04:46] <MenZa> I don't say it hasn't
[04:46] <elfstone> BotLobsta, ping
[04:46] <ideafix> because like everybody else i got somethings to hide
[04:47] <MenZa> 'cos I'm really not that acquainted with all features
[04:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ideafix about firestarter
[04:47] <BotLobsta> elfstone, how would pinging help
[04:47] <ideafix> firestarter is a hoax
[04:48] <eedge> who was helping me before?... lol
[04:48] <ideafix> i tryed it once
[04:48] <elfstone> hmm, lots to explain... ping is like, i'm pinging you in channel so see if you're here
[04:48] <llop> does anyone know if there is a compiled ndiswrapper version newer than 1.1? someone else got my wireless chipset working with a newer version bu i cant compile newer version as I cant access internet from ubuntu and get necessary package to get fakeroot? anyone help?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> hoax?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> firestarter works if you know what your doing
[04:48] <ideafix> running a firewall as root dosent seem to make much sence to me
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ideafix: you dont run it as root
[04:49] <gnomefreak> you change the settings as root
[04:49] <elfstone> BotLobsta, you have tried to setup xinerama ?
[04:49] <BotLobsta> so i ping the monitor?
[04:49] <BotLobsta> elfstone, how?
[04:49] <ideafix> you have to remenber we live in the post 9/11 era
[04:49] <ideafix> nothing is private
[04:49] <elfstone> reading the doc would be a good start
[04:50] <ideafix> i belive terrorist make like 0,0001 per cent of the world population
[04:50] <elfstone> ideafix, the exact wording is, "it's not the same world"
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ideafix: you can make your computer do as you like you can block all ports that would make everything on your pc private
[04:50] <raf256> how to set to have system-wide all text in english language (system messages and such)
[04:50] <ideafix> but he all have to pay for theyr mistakes with our privacy
[04:50] <raf256> but, to have the environment set to UTF or to iso-8859-2 (polish)
[04:51] <tecs> anyone here who knows how owns a 720 c hp printer?
[04:51] <elfstone> BotLobsta, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/intro.html http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO.html
[04:51] <pianoboy3333> I have an ndiswrapper problem, can someone help me? Take a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=750010#post750010
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ideafix: anything you send over from opne place to another is no longer private and the privacy laws dont cover it other than mail
[04:51] <pinko> I know some privacy nuts who are pretty fond of openbsd.  Not sure what it does differently though.
[04:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  in some countries the goverment has the right to read your mail before it is forwarded to you
[04:52] <thegladiator> arab ?
[04:52] <lidieus> hi..
[04:52] <ejofee> what is the name of the config file for motif?
[04:52] <ideafix> using openbsd makes you the number one terget for peeps
[04:52] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: true i was speaking of usa since he llives there
[04:53] <thegladiator> thats  ridiculous
[04:53] <IdleOne> I believe the Patriot act  gives the goverment that right
[04:53] <lupz> hi, the dapper flight 4 installer fails to detect my cdrom and stops.. how can i do ?
[04:53] <Gnumannen> Ubuntu LiveCD can't find my sata harddrive, how may I fix it? It's connected and can be found in Debian...
[04:53] <pinko> you can make it look like you aren't using openbsd though
[04:53] <ideafix> patriot hack you mean ?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> lupz: make sure the iso is good burn it at lower speeds and if those dont work file a bug
[04:54] <IdleOne> ideafix:  anything you wouldnt want me or the goverment to see should be kept on a removeable drive anyway
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Gnumannen,  try mounting it manually? does 'fdisk -l '  show it...
[04:54] <Gnumannen> Dr_Willis, thanks, I try
[04:54] <ideafix> i m kinda short of mony to buy one right now
[04:55] <IdleOne> arent we all
[04:55] <pinko> I wonder if coming in here bragging about how much you need to hide from the government makes you an attractive target.
[04:55] <ideafix> i guess if you have $$$ you can have you privacy
[04:55] <visik7> hi
[04:55] <lidieus> hi visik7
[04:55] <visik7> how can I recompile a module for the ubuntu kernel without recompile a full kernel ?
[04:55] <thegladiator> i tride singing up at gnome-look.org
[04:55] <gandm> seems like I screwed up my postfix. Uninstalling / Installing doesn't help... everytime I try to start it I get the message "postfix-script no such file or direcotry"... how can I fix that?
[04:56] <thegladiator> but I have not yet got any mail confirmation , signed with 2 emails!
[04:56] <ideafix> pinko: does it ?
[04:56] <Gnumannen> Dr_Willis, No, it did not work... neither could the install CD see my partions.
[04:56] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: it takes a while (if you are trying to post themes ect.....
[04:56] <ideafix> better they peeping on me then on the public at large
[04:56] <thegladiator> i am trying to post a wallpaper
[04:57] <thegladiator> how many days ?
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> how do I get my mouse working with 4 buttons
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> and a scroll wheel?
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> !mouse
[04:57] <ubotu> I heard mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> ?
[04:57] <pianoboy3333> I have an ndiswrapper problem, can someone help me? Take a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=750010#post750010
[04:57] <llop> does anyone know if there is a compiled ndiswrapper version newer than 1.1? someone else got my wireless chipset working with a newer version but i cant compile newer version as I cant access internet from ubuntu and get necessary package to get fakeroot (using these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?action=show) anyone help?
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> ha, nm
[04:58] <darkraven> i have installed the ati driver with the module-assistant, after installation there is no fglrxconfig, and x-server reboot didnt help, why is there no fglrxconfig?
[04:58] <eedge> I have a problem
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Gnumannen,  sounds like the kernel may not be with the rigth modules to see them.
[04:58] <eedge> kyle@learlaptop:~$ sudo iwconfig eth1 channel 1
[04:58] <eedge> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) :
[04:58] <eedge>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Gnumannen,  could try out the Dapper Live CD.
[04:58] <eedge> any explaination for why I can't set the channel?
[04:58] <whyameye> darkraven: the ati driver is an opensource driver for ati. fglrx is the ati proprietary driver for ati cards. Which are you using?
[04:59] <visik7> eedge: iwconfig eth1
[04:59] <eedge> visik7, iwconfig eth1 still says channel=0
[04:59] <eedge> I can't seem to set it to 1
[04:59] <visik7> paste theoutput on pastebin
[04:59] <Gnumannen> Dr_Willis, I was thinking of that, I'll try it then. Thanks alot ;)
[04:59] <darkraven> whyameye, im using the fglrx driver, -> sudo aticonfig --initial did work, and fglrxinfo shows my card, but i cant set the other settings
[05:00] <visik7> eedge: and tell us the driver are u using
[05:00] <eedge> http://pastebin.com/562787
[05:00] <eedge> the ipw2200 drivers.
[05:01] <eedge> I can scan and see the router fine, btw.
[05:01] <eedge> and the network is open.
[05:01] <lucas_> hey! ive got a little porblem i want to change a config.xml but i cant write in it! how can i change the userrights to write?
[05:01] <visik7> eedge: is eth1 up ?
[05:01] <whyameye> you mean that, for example if you type sudo aticonfig --set-powerstate this doesn't work?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> lucas_: man chmod
[05:01] <eedge> eth1 is up.
[05:01] <gangsta> atlast i get my direct rendering back
[05:01] <darkraven> whyameye, i did it after this instruction ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[05:01] <pianoboy3333> I need help with ndiswrapper here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=750010#post750010
[05:02] <eedge> as I said, I can scan and see the network.
[05:02] <whyameye> darkraven: you mean that, for example if you type sudo aticonfig --set-powerstate this doesn't work?
[05:02] <thegladiator> mplayer bug : (seemingly) - i have noticed that when I play a movie from a cd , after closing the movie window , the mplayer instance stiill runs in the background , i.e th program is not shut down . I have to manually close mplayer using system monitor to eject th media which is very annoying . has anyone experience the same ?  what can I do to remove this ? Is clicking "on the close button" not enuf ?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> lucas_: i think its chmod -x /path/to/file but i dont remember exact command
[05:02] <lucas_> k thx
[05:03] <pdc^> help! My GB keyboard layout is screwed. xorg.conf shows it as gb and I set it with xmodmap but that did not fix it. How could I fix it??
[05:03] <darkraven> whyameye, this command work, but needs an argument
[05:03] <lupz> hi, the dapper flight 4 installer fails to detect my cdrom and stops.. how can i do ?
[05:03] <visik7> eedge: dunno try use frequency
[05:03] <gnomefreak> pdc^: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:04] <whyameye> darkraven: so what isn't working exactly? It seems like it all might work?
[05:04] <visik7> eedge: or try to use another driver
[05:04] <raf256> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/562795 my APT list
[05:04] <gnomefreak> lupz: did you try what was suggested?
[05:04] <thegladiator> has anyone had the problem with mplayer thanks
[05:05] <thegladiator> when I close mplayer it stays in the backgroun
[05:05] <gnomefreak> raf256: pick a version of ubuntu please
[05:05] <thegladiator> it doesnt really shut down
[05:05] <raf256> gnomefreak: I want 5.10 but to have 5.04 apps available
[05:05] <gnomefreak> raf256: you have hoary repos mixed in with breezy ones
[05:05] <alex_> where I can find the bluecurve theme of fedora  for apple arquitecture?
[05:05] <raf256> I have it like that on debian (testing + unstable)
[05:05] <gnomefreak> raf256: this is not debian and mixing crap is bad
[05:05] <thegladiator> alex_, what OS are you using ? what is ur X ?
[05:05] <darkraven> whyameye, sudo fglrxconfig doesnt work
[05:06] <pdc^> gnomefreak: thanks. is there any way to stop that breaking my gfx settings?
[05:06] <raf256> damn
[05:06] <gnomefreak> and you have dapper repos
[05:06] <raf256> gnomefreak: is there one good sources.list to just get and use?
[05:06] <raf256> not to fuck with this GUI editor in synaptic
[05:06] <gnomefreak> raf256: what does uname -r say
[05:06] <raf256> just to download
[05:06] <alex_> thegladiator: I am using ubuntu
[05:06] <thegladiator> anyone who uses mplayer here ?
[05:07] <thegladiator> alex_, on gnome then please have a look at www.gnome-look.org
[05:07] <raf256>  2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[05:07] <gnomefreak> raf256: ok
[05:07] <thegladiator> mplayer uses please tell me if you click on the close button  , does it really close ? it closes in the systm monitor also ?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> !sources
[05:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:07] <alex_> thegladiator: thanks men
[05:07] <tecs> if im using breezy is it a must to update to dapper?
[05:07] <thegladiator> i use mplayer and not gmplayer , from the command line or "custom command" from nautilus
[05:07] <gnomefreak> go to the above for breezy and make your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like that one
[05:08] <thegladiator> i hope there are mplayer users around, _jason ?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> tecs: its not even recommaneded right now
[05:08] <tecs> ok thnks
[05:08] <llop> can I get the package 'dh-make fakeroot gcc-3.4 build-essential' over the internet not in ubuntu? (am trying to compile ndiswrapper to get internet working) ?
[05:08] <whyameye> darkraven: okay I didn't even know about fglrxconfig. I just tried it and it appears to run on my machine, but I'm really happy with my xorg.conf so I didn't let it complete. Maybe I can't help you. :-( Is the app running at all or are you not even finding it?
[05:08] <thegladiator> wowo azming #ubuntu hits 700 !
[05:08] <thegladiator> celebrate guys :)
[05:08] <raf256> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 is neat
[05:08] <fredl> hi, I'm trying to get powernow-k7 installed and running on my system...
[05:08] <thegladiator> mplayer uses please tell me if you click on the close button  , does it really close ? it closes in the systm monitor also ?
[05:09] <fredl> bu modprobe powernow-k7 seems to be telling me that no AMD K7 is installed.
[05:09] <gnomefreak> raf256: copy and paste that to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:09] <fredl> any clues why this is?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> raf256: get rid of what you have in there first
[05:09] <thegladiator> anyone who use mplayer here ?
[05:09] <raf256> gnomefreak: ok
[05:09] <tecs> how about the updates in software updates is it adviceable to update?
[05:09] <fredl> gladiator - yeah
[05:09] <thegladiator> folkz please pay some attention to me thanks
[05:09] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: did you happen to check for bugs on that issue?
[05:09] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, no
[05:10] <darkraven> whyameye: oh, thats a pity :/ ... im installing unreal tournament right now,to test the graphic card, but at fglxconfig there are some options, which id like to change and configure :(
[05:10] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, where can I check that
[05:10] <thegladiator> ?
[05:10] <thegladiator> fredl, have you had this problem ?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: it might be a good idea maybe someone else has had same issues
[05:10] <thegladiator> !bug
[05:10] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator
[05:10] <pianoboy3333> I need help with ndiswrapper here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=750010#post750010
[05:10] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: launchpad
[05:10] <thegladiator> yep thought of asking here before hiting the bugs
[05:10] <ryanakca> hmmm.... if I install gimp 2.2.10 using the .debs from here: http://packages.debian.org/testing/graphics/gimp  , will it still work on Kubuntu/Ubuntu breezy?
[05:10] <darkraven> whyameye, how did you install you ati driver?
[05:11] <thegladiator> waz launchpad ?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: seeing as you have been asking in here for a while noone was able to answer you check bugs and forums
[05:11] <IdleOne> !ati
[05:11] <fredl> Does anybody here with Breezy have powernow-k7 loaded?
[05:11] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:11] <whyameye> darkraven: so it gives you some sort of error? What about setting the options manually? I installed the ati driver using the exact same post you used! :-(
[05:11] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: go to applications>systemtools>bug report tool
[05:11] <gnomefreak> than it will give you links to launchpad
[05:11] <llop> can I get the package 'dh-make fakeroot gcc-3.4 build-essential' over the internet not in ubuntu? (am trying to compile ndiswrapper to get internet working) ?
[05:11] <thegladiator> yep
[05:12] <gnomefreak> llop: those are all different packages
[05:12] <pdc^> gnomefreak: that did not work. I have normal GB layout until I log in
[05:12] <gnomefreak> llop: not real sure what dh-make is but build-essential has make in it
[05:12] <fredl> I want to conserve energy and make the west less depending on the middle east so terrorists won't get us. So please tell me how to load powernow-k7 :)
[05:13] <NeonCortex> anyone awake?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> pdc^: im not sure than
[05:13] <IdleOne> llop:  http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/   btw google is your friend
[05:13] <pdc^> ok, thanks for the thought.
[05:13] <fredl> tell 'm FGI gnomefreak :P
[05:14] <eedge> going to try with ndiswrapper
[05:14] <eedge> after 7 hours...
[05:14] <eedge> lol
[05:14] <amphi> fredl: dunno, I never use any of those power demons, I just use the ondemand cpufreq governor
[05:14] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  sometimes when ppl are annoyed by theyre problem they forget about the essential help tools ()
[05:14] <amphi> eedge: wtf? ipw2200 works perfectly here
[05:14] <NeonCortex> oh the pain
[05:14] <visik7> how can I recompile a module for the ubuntu kernel without recompile a full kernel ? on a vanilla kernel I modify a module and then run make modules ; insmod /path/module.ko
[05:15] <TheLive1> hello.. im on the ubuntu livecd
[05:15] <amphi> eedge: if you go with ndiswrapper, you'll be entering a world of pain ;)
[05:15] <visik7> eedge: don't use ndis
[05:15] <fredl> amphi - well thats what the powernow-k7 is about. In order to use cpufreq one first needs a cpufreq core module it seems
[05:15] <whyameye> visik7: the module-assistant what you are looking for?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:15] <visik7> whyameye: no
[05:15] <NeonCortex> oh the pain the pain
[05:15] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: i always thought google came first :( but i have given people links from googl;e that fixes thier issues and they want me to type in here what the page says
[05:15] <TheLive1> yeah i like, i like
[05:15] <Mr_X> 704 total... jeez!
[05:15] <visik7> whyameye: I need to modify a module provided with the linux kenrel
[05:15] <TheLive1> one quick question though.. why cant i hear audio
[05:16] <TheLive1> music files
[05:16] <amphi> fredl: yes, and then whatever module you need for your cpu - I use speedstep_centrino here; then it's all configurable via sysfs
[05:16] <amphi> fredl: no need for demons
[05:16] <whyameye> visik7: the module-assistant compiles modules and then integrates them into the kernel, no?
[05:16] <visik7> whyameye: the module it's already in the linux kernel
[05:16] <visik7> I don't need to put it in
[05:16] <fredl> amphi - *nod* but instead of speedstep_centrino I need powernow-k7 and it doesnt work despite having a K7 and a K7 kernel
[05:16] <xerophyte> webmin-python is GPL project but the guy stopped developing it, can you take this project and continue develop, under different team .. with same project name ???
[05:17] <amphi> fredl: "doesn't work"?
[05:17] <fredl> amphi: so you have a module 'speedstep_centrino' loaded now?
[05:17] <amphi> fredl: yup
[05:17] <IdleOne> xerophyte:  I think that if you want to continue the project you could but give credit where credit is due ()
[05:17] <fredl> amphi: FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k7 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko): No such device
[05:18] <eedge> I can't think of another option than ndis.
[05:18] <eedge> I found the EXACT driver on the ndis list page
[05:18] <fredl> amphi - that's when I try to modprobe powernow-k7
[05:18] <darkraven> whyameye, ut works with opengl fine, last time i installed that way on my laptop, there fglrxconfig works .. thats strange :(
[05:18] <amphi> fredl: so you don't have /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq ?
[05:18] <fredl> amphi: nope, I have the directory it's supposed to be in.... but it's empty
[05:19] <Mr_X> can anyone recommend any good firewalls apart from firestarter? =)?
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> !codecs
[05:19] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> !easysource
[05:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:20] <TheLive1> on the livecd: "Totem could not play mp3 file. there were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[05:20] <gnomefreak> Mr_X: there are a few of them firestarter being the most widely used but i would search for firewalls in synaptic
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> TheLive1,  thats due to 'legal' reasons. sadly.
[05:20] <fredl> amphi: that speedstep_centrino module makes that file, right?
[05:20] <Mr_X> gnomefreak: thanks
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> TheLive1,  not sure you can install stuff with the live cd for temparaly ussage either.
[05:21] <TheLive1> ohhh because that particular mp3 isnt legal?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> Mr_X: yw sorry not a better answer
[05:21] <Mr_X> gnomefreak: thats ok, ill just look now :)
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> TheLive1,  the 'mp3 playback' feature - has Legal issues.. not the file itself.
[05:21] <TheLive1> oh ok.. but theres ways around it
[05:22] <gnomefreak> TheLive1: this is linux theres ways around it all ;)
[05:22] <TheLive1> indeed mate
[05:22] <Mr_X> gnomefreak: now synpatic is iving an error :(
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> TheLive1,  on a full install - yes.. its trivial
[05:22] <gnomefreak> Mr_X: what error?
[05:23] <fredl> amphi?
[05:23] <Mr_X> gnomefreak: a box comes up with a message saying "the following problems were found on your system" then a box saying a list of things
[05:23] <TheLive1> im fairly new to linux (1 month) strictly been using with kde.. i think i like this better
[05:23] <fredl> oh well :) anybody have powernow-k7 installed?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> Mr_X: can you paste it to pastebin please
[05:23] <sjbrown> anyone know what to do to make ubuntu mount my external usb drive?
[05:23] <TheLive1> gnome isnt it
[05:23] <Mr_X> pastebin?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[05:23] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:24] <thegladiator> is it suggested that I retstart my computer ? it is on for a day
[05:24] <Mr_X> thanks
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> sjbrown,  proper mount command from the shell is one way - if its not auto-seen
[05:24] <darkraven> whyameye, but thx for trying help ;)
[05:24] <amphi> fredl: yeah
[05:24] <sjbrown> it used to be automatically detected
[05:24] <gnomefreak> gnome is very configurale same with kde
[05:24] <ZigZag> hi! just wanted to ask - is there a way to boot a live cd without burning it do a CD?
[05:24] <sjbrown> i'd like it to be autodetected again (i plug / unplug a lot)
[05:24] <TheLive1> is it faster than kde
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ZigZag: no that would defeat the purpose of the live cd
[05:24] <sjbrown> but i don't know where that is set up
[05:24] <renlore> heh
[05:25] <llop> if i download packages individually as i cant use apt-get, do I just install them using dpkg?
[05:25] <renlore> zigzag u wanna run linux in windows?
[05:25] <Mr_X> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d8884
[05:25] <gnomefreak> TheLive1: lil bit not really able to tell the speed difference you want fast go with fluxbox or xfce
[05:25] <ompaul> ZigZag, you can do so with qemu
[05:25] <fredl> amphi: on my laptop I also have speedstep-centrino loaded....
[05:25] <brainiac_ghost> what is ICEauthority file
[05:25] <amphi> fredl: that's no use unless it's a pentium m
[05:25] <ZigZag> no, I want to boot a live cd ISO to play with dapper flight 4, but not actually burn a disc
[05:26] <fredl> amphi: well my laptop is...
[05:26] <amphi> fredl: or perhaps mobile p4 (hah), dunno
[05:26] <gnomefreak> Mr_X: open your /etc/apt/sources.list file and put a # infront of those repos
[05:26] <iBalo> anyone else having issues with dhcp on dapper flight 4?
[05:26] <Mr_X> gnomefreak: thanks, will try!
[05:26] <fredl> yeah it's mobile p4
[05:26] <ZigZag> gnomefreak: no, it doesn't defeat the purpose - I don't want to install, I just want to try it
[05:26] <sjbrown> the "Disks Manager" software can see it on /dev/sdb
[05:26] <sjbrown> but it's not mounted
[05:26] <voland> hi all
[05:26] <amphi> fredl: and you see that directory under /sys
[05:26] <amphi> ?
[05:27] <Mr_X> brb
[05:27] <fredl> amphi: on my laptop it all works fine. Only problem is that one my desktop it won't recognize the AMD K7 CPU.
[05:27] <gnomefreak> ZigZag: my point being you are gonna mount it on a hard drive hence being installed
[05:27] <krz> i cant start gdm. i think its because i installed kde
[05:27] <krz> it says i have a problem with my xserver
[05:27] <gnomefreak> krz: than start kdm
[05:27] <krz> oh
[05:28] <ZigZag> gnomefreak: WHy can't I just mount the iso?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> krz: scrtch that
[05:28] <amphi> fredl: sorry, dunno about amd
[05:28] <fredl> that's ok tnx neway
[05:28] <voland> 2 all. I have a bit trouble with Ubuntu - I can't start glx on my tnt2. Can anybody help me?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> krz: did you just install drivers for your video card?
[05:29] <iBalo> voland: you need the nvidia _legacy_ -packs and drivers
[05:29] <krz> it says: i cannot start the x server. it is likely that is is not set up correctly/ would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem
[05:29] <krz> i click yes and it says:
[05:29] <wakest> anyone know if the new alpha release has the drivers for powerbook wifi installed by default now?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> krz: no need for all that (did you install video drivers before this issue?
[05:29] <krz> gnomefreak no
[05:30] <voland> yes, i intslled legasy drivers for nVindia from multiverse, typed sudo nvidia-glx-enable, but nothing happened ^(
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> voland,  you then had to totally restat X.
[05:30] <neo_> hi
[05:30] <damo21> hi, Seveas where do i find a list of packages in the "ubuntu-seveas" metapackage?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> krz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the right things for each question
[05:30] <iBalo> voland: Ctrl-alt-Backspace
[05:31] <voland> Dr_Willis: I made Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[05:31] <krz> GDM: Xserver not found > /usr/X11/bin/Z :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 Error: command could not be executed! Please install the xserver or edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to point to the right place
[05:31] <voland> nothin
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> voland,  you dont even get the 'nvidia' logo eh?
[05:31] <voland> yes
[05:31] <krz> gnomefreak ok ill try that
[05:31] <damo21> voland: does gdm restart? or not... if not, just reboot
[05:31] <iBalo> !fixred
[05:31] <ubotu> iBalo: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:32] <iBalo> !fixres
[05:32] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:32] <iBalo> ^^^^voland^^^
[05:32] <bSON> hi
[05:32] <mataks> i have a fresh installation of windowsXP and after that i can't boot to my ubuntu. anyone can help?
[05:32] <xerophyte> How many think webmin-import is good replacement name for python-webmin?
[05:32] <TheLive1> on the livecd im trying to open video files from my external usb disk.. saying i dont have permissions to open them?
[05:32] <bSON> has anybody got xgl/compi running here?
[05:32] <TheLive1> "you dont have permissions to open that location"
[05:32] <voland> yes gdm restarted, but nothing happened.
[05:33] <krz> gnomefreak after i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it says: /usr/sbin/dbkg-reconfigure: sxerver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[05:33] <pdc^> gnomefreak: it was "dpkg-reconfigure locales" that broke my GB kb layout. Would you know how to reverse or fix that?
[05:33] <voland> i've intsalled nvidia-settings, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-glx
[05:33] <damo21> mataks: boot off ubuntu install cd... do rescue or something
[05:33] <iBalo> voland: and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the 'nvidia'-driver there
[05:34] <Xappe> mataks: you could boot a livecd, chroot to your ubuntu root, and reinstall grub
[05:34] <krz> gnomefreak what do you think?
[05:34] <damo21> mataks: or skip to the "install grub" option
[05:34] <svu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:34] <svu>   beagle: Depends: libgmime2.1-cil (< 2.1.18) but 2.1.19-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[05:34] <svu> how could I apt-get beagle?
[05:35] <mataks> damo21L: i already did, on the ubuntu forums says that redo the grub and i do it. and now i can boot to grub but i can't see the ubuntu on the list only the WindowsXP.
[05:35] <krz> anyone can help me out ? seems like i cant start gdm now ...
[05:35] <krz> maybe i really need kebunto
[05:35] <krz> or something
[05:36] <iBalo> voland: _LEGACY_
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> krz,  this is when it pays to have backed up your working xorg.conf file.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> krz,  then ya could just restore it.
[05:36] <krz> i dont even know what i did wrong
[05:36] <amphi> heh, Dr_Willis
[05:36] <krz> just isntalled a couple of appis like mplayer, kde, aterm and rebooted
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> krz,  those dident do anything.
[05:37] <krz> in windows it would be like installing bsplayer, vim, and desktopx then rebooting
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> you followed the 'nvidia' wiki instructions?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[05:37] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:37] <krz> Dr_Willis i didnt install any vedeo drivers
[05:37] <mataks> Xappe: how can i chroot to root? can you help me im just new to linux
[05:37] <krz> plus im using ATI
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> krz,  then follow the ati ones. :P
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[05:37] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:38] <vasP_L>  can anyone tell me whats wrong: http://www.home.no/vasp/error
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> but its odd that if you dident mess with your X config - that it wouldbreak
[05:38] <vasP_L> cant login to my user account in gnome cuz of that
[05:39] <gnomefreak> krz: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:39] <krz> breeze
[05:39] <krz> or something like that
[05:39] <thegladiator> a very good black wallpaper -> http://www.deviantart.com/view/28626615/
[05:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell vasP_L about xhangs
[05:39] <visik7> I've a kernel module  (provided with the kernel source) and I need to modify it to fit my needs but I don't want to recompile a new kernel is there a way ?
[05:39] <mataks> can someone help me i can't see my ubuntu on the boot list, only my xp. why is that?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> krz: you can try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg   (not sure if it will work but it says its not installed)
[05:40] <krz> brb reboot
[05:40] <thegladiator> mataks, u installed ubuntu first ?
[05:40] <thegladiator> mataks, i think you didnt op for the grub or something during the installation
[05:40] <thegladiator> opt*
[05:41] <krz> ok dont need to reboot
[05:41] <iBalo> mataks: You somehow managed to mess up the /boot/grub/menu.lst on ubuntu... You got to boot from a Live-CD and fix it from there
[05:41] <dude99> guys ubuntu does not recognise my mouse
[05:41] <mataks> iBalo: how? i don't have any idea how to fix im just new to linux
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> dude99,  ps2/ usb?
[05:41] <dude99> ps2
[05:41] <dude99> logitech
[05:42] <iBalo> mataks: You have a Ubuntu live CD?
[05:42] <dude99> ya live and instal
[05:42] <mataks> iBalo: yes i  have
[05:42] <Alexi5> it seems linux is taking over the world
[05:42] <Xappe> mataks: mount your ubuntu drive, and then: $ sudo chroot /<mountpoint>
[05:42] <amphi> Alexi5: it does?
[05:42] <MstrJeff> howdy.... any ideas about solving 'call to undefined function' w/php-mysql?
[05:42] <iBalo> mataks: then boot the live CD and come back here
[05:43] <krz> how do i get the ip address of my pc in the console
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> dude99,  could try  from the console "sudo cat /dev/psaux"   then wiggle the mouse.. you SHOULD see gibberish.. (ctrl-C) to quit. - if that works.. then you may just need to edit your /etc/xorg.conf file
[05:43] <amphi> krz: ifconfig
[05:43] <mataks> iBalo: can't connect to internet on ubuntu on liveCD :(
[05:43] <MstrJeff> phpmyadmin works fine, but can't make calls to the db
[05:43] <Alexi5> and the BSD and Solaris users think that linux is just sh!t
[05:43] <mataks> Xappe: how to mount to my ubuntu drive? what's the command?
[05:43] <iBalo> mataks: on what connection type are you?
[05:43] <svu> arrgh, beagle for powerpc is still 0.1.3 while for other people is 0.1.4... Discrimination...
[05:44] <mataks> iBalo: dsl
[05:44] <voland> damn, when i choose nvidia module, i get a message "no screens found"
[05:44] <krz> gnomefreak i think sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg messed things up even more
[05:44] <Xappe> mataks: $ sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/<ubuntu partition> <mountpoint>
[05:44] <krz> now i cant even get to the console
[05:45] <dude99> how do i edit the config file?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:45] <gnomefreak> krz: how could it mess it up more?
[05:45] <mataks> Xappe: i forgot my ubuntu partition :(
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> dude99,  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    (or use some other editor instead of nano)
[05:46] <voland> and when i coose nv - it works perfect
[05:46] <krz> gnomefreak dunno, it hangs and i cant with the error, and cant get back to console
[05:46] <iBalo> mataks: then have your acces-data (dsl username and password) ready and type 'sudo pppoeconf' in a terminal. This will connect you (if you're not on pppoe)
[05:46] <Xappe> mataks: then you should get yourself to remember ;)
[05:46] <gnomefreak> krz: xserver-xorg shouldnt have anything to do with console
[05:46] <krz> it starts it automatcially
[05:46] <iBalo> mataks: then have your acces-data (dsl username and password) ready and type 'sudo pppoeconf' in a terminal. This will connect you (if you're  _on_  pppoe)
[05:46] <gnomefreak> krz: try ctrl+alt+f1
[05:46] <krz> still hanging
[05:47] <krz> is there a way to not start gdm at boot?
[05:47] <dude99> i've no idea
[05:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> Hello, Im reading about dapperflight4 and I thinkit looks great, has anyone experience with it?
[05:47] <krz> i think this system is dead. i need to get some files before i reinstall
[05:47] <dude99> this is the very first time i'm using linux
[05:47] <gnomefreak> keithhhhhhhhh: some things are broken with it atm and will be :(
[05:47] <krz> hopefull its still on the desktop of gnome
[05:48] <irma> hey all
[05:48] <thegladiator> hey
[05:48] <gnomefreak> krz: something sounds curropt or broken but off hand not sure what
[05:48] <keithhhhhhhhh> so not worth using just yet eh
[05:48] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im a newbie
[05:48] <gnomefreak> keithhhhhhhhh: no
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> dude99,  you will proberl y want to look for a line like -- >  Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" , and change it to   Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
[05:49] <thegladiator> krz, try using something like bum to remove gdm , but I forgot the command to confiure the display manager
[05:49] <Xappe> mataks: try fdisk -l, should list your drives
[05:49] <amphi> krz: reboot in single user and do update-rc.d -f gdm remove; that'll stop the gui login
[05:49] <krz> gnomefreak ok. i need a method to boot and avoid the error. which occurs when starting gdm. is this possible?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> keithhhhhhhhh: wait till atleast the beta version hits servers
[05:49] <thegladiator> you could set  kdm/gdm
[05:49] <krz> i just need to get to the console and hopfeully do a backup
[05:49] <irma> i'm new to linux for about 3 month ant i want to lern how to manage my maps and files can someone help me becouse i dont know what the map var means and stuff like that
[05:49] <thegladiator> krz, during boot there is a recovery boot option ?
[05:49] <thegladiator> in themenu ?
[05:49] <krz> yeap
[05:49] <amphi> irma: maps?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> krz: try booting to that
[05:50] <mataks> Xappe: ok i'll try
[05:50] <krz> ok recovery boot seems like its working without the launching gdm
[05:50] <irma> yes ..in linux all maps have diferent names like in windows
[05:50] <thegladiator> krz, not sure whats with gdm , try installing kde-dekstop maybe?
[05:50] <MstrJeff> is anyone able to help with some mysql/php problems?
[05:50] <keithhhhhhhhh> gnome - so if I use 5.10, would upgrading be easy in the future?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: thats what started this lol
[05:50] <thegladiator> i dont whats happened to your gdm , was it like that from the start ?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> keithhhhhhhhh: yes
[05:50] <amphi> irma: what do you mean by maps? directories?
[05:50] <thegladiator> lol :)
[05:50] <thegladiator> sorry
[05:51] <keithhhhhhhhh> gnome cool
[05:51] <dude99> ok i'll try it
[05:51] <_jason> keithhhhhhhhh: without counting, how many h's are in your name?
[05:51] <thegladiator> i guess it has something to with the splash or something ?
[05:51] <irma> yes directories and the files in the directories if i want to save a foto where in what dir or map is the best place to put it
[05:51] <thegladiator> try removing the kde boot splash maybe ...
[05:51] <gnomefreak> i know i know
[05:51] <dude99> i'm on a windows box and i'll get into ubuntu thnaks DRWillis
[05:51] <keithhhhhhhhh> gnome - I just got a new hard disk for my notebook so Im itching to make a dual boot  ;)
[05:51] <krz> thegladiator i already have kde desktop i think
[05:51] <keithhhhhhhhh> jason - I dont know actually
[05:52] <_jason> keithhhhhhhhh: hehe that's what I though
[05:52] <jorgenbear> does anyone know what to do when skype won't start?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> 9
[05:52] <krz> ok i cant winscp to do a backup
[05:52] <mataks> Xappe: after i mount to my ubuntu partition what will i do next?
[05:52] <krz> i think i need to login into gdm
[05:52] <thegladiator> has someone tell krz how to set the display manager ? like gdm or kdm ?
[05:52] <krz> err gnome
[05:52] <_jason> krz: for ssh?
[05:52] <krz> _jason yea using winSCP
[05:52] <thegladiator> krz, maybe your default is set to kdm atm ?
[05:52] <krz> thegladiator how do i check for that?
[05:52] <thegladiator> are you getting the kubuntu login screen
[05:52] <thegladiator> ?
[05:53] <thegladiator> like whats the color o your login screen ?
[05:53] <krz> thegladiator no color. im in the console
[05:53] <krz> i did a recovery boot
[05:53] <thegladiator> do you get a login screen at all ?
[05:53] <krz> yea, but just cli
[05:53] <thegladiator> cli ?
[05:53] <Xappe> mataks: after mount and chroot you should reinstall grub. grub-install /dev/hda I guess...someone correct me if i'm wrong
[05:53] <iBalo> krz: what happens if you 'startx' ?
[05:53] <krz> a console login. if thats what it is called
[05:53] <krz> iBalo ill try it
[05:53] <thegladiator> !gdm
[05:53] <ubotu> thegladiator: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:54] <_jason> krz: ssh should start when your computer boots, even if gdm is throwing you errors
[05:54] <eugman> Anyone know how to check if I have a repository that nothing installed?
[05:54] <thegladiator> _jason, how does someone configure gdm or kdm during boot  ?
[05:54] <krz> _jason i think ssh ddoesnt start with the recovery boot
[05:54] <thegladiator> i guess that shud partly help in resolving the issue
[05:54] <_jason> krz: no it doesn't, probably
[05:54] <_jason> krz: have you done dpkg-reconfigure gdm?
[05:54] <mataks> Xappe: after that?
[05:54] <thegladiator> yeah that one
[05:55] <krz> _jason ill try that in a second. i really need to back the file up before anything else
[05:55] <thegladiator> kde "hijacks" you rdisplay manager actually lol
[05:55] <thegladiator> it makes it look like kubuntu
[05:55] <krz> thegladiator i think thats the problem. because when i do gdm. it says that its already running
[05:56] <krz> but im still in console
[05:56] <_jason> krz: boot your computer normally, let it throw errors on gdm load and see if you can still ssh
[05:56] <irma> what purpous hase the folder var? and where can i read something about all folders?
[05:56] <Xappe> mataks: after that you should be fine, I hope
[05:56] <amphi> krz: it's probably lurking on VT7
[05:56] <keithhhhhhhhh> ok see you all next time when Im running ubuntu
[05:56] <mataks> Xappe: ok
[05:56] <krz> yea atleast i can ssh to it
[05:57] <krz> withe error hanging the screen
[05:57] <sabbar> hi
[05:57] <jorgenbear> does anyone know what to do when skype won't start?
[05:57] <damo21> Can someone help me, i really want an xfce ubuntu system but it seems to break things like printing.... is there a proper way to install xfce?
[05:58] <benanne> xubuntu maybe?
[05:58] <BockBilbo> hello
[05:58] <erUSUL> damo21, have you installed xubuntu-desktop or xfce only?
[05:58] <godiane|away> damo21, xubuntu will be okay
[05:58] <damo21> yes i installed xubuntu-desktop, but what is xubuntu-live for??
[05:58] <krz> _jason after i do a backup should i do dpkg-reconfigure gdm or just reinstall everything?
[05:58] <godiane|away> damo21, have to install xfce "_
[05:58] <_jason> krz: try the command first of course
[05:59] <gnomefreak> damo21: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:59] <damo21> breezy 5.10
[05:59] <_jason> krz: I think you should try it right now before backing up
[05:59] <eugman> Hey anyone know how to set iit up so a computer has different winow managers and you can choose which one you use at the grub menu?
[05:59] <eugman> is that even possible?
[05:59] <gnomefreak> ok than im not sure. live is for live cd
[05:59] <Makaraki> hi people I'm new in Ubuntu and Linux I would like to find some kins of player wich allow me to watch avi movies
[05:59] <_jason> eugman: you can set it up to choose from gdm
[05:59] <krz> _jason ok but that would mean i would have to do this command in recovery boot
[05:59] <krz> right?
[05:59] <damo21> i enabled all the multiverse repos i just tried installing everything xubuntu related except xubuntu-live
[05:59] <Lvip> :o
[05:59] <Lvip> Bye all.
[05:59] <Al-Daja> http://pastebin.com/562884
[05:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Makaraki about mplayer
[06:00] <godiane|away> eugman, yes it's possible although you have to click "options"
[06:00] <_jason> krz: sure, if you can't get to terminal
[06:00] <iceman_> why cant i apt-get streamtuner
[06:00] <_jason> krz: ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work?
[06:00] <eugman> well gdm works close enough. thanks
[06:00] <Makaraki> mplayer
[06:00] <Makaraki> ?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Makaraki: read the pm ubotu sent you
[06:01] <Makaraki> thanks a lot
[06:01] <damo21> Does anyone know, will there be an "xubuntu live cd" with dapper drake?
[06:01] <krz> _jason nope
[06:01] <damo21> or xubuntu install cd
[06:01] <gnomefreak> damo21: yes there will be (as far as we know)
[06:01] <damo21> Cool
[06:02] <_jason> krz: then try it in recovery mode, I'm gonna go grab some food now.  gl
[06:02] <krz> _jason ok i get invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[06:03] <damo21> Gnome is just too memory hungry for older pcs... xfce is perfect choice for me i cant wait for dapper :)
[06:03] <iceman_> anyone know why I cant Apt-get Streamtuner ...
[06:03] <krz> _jason but ill try to reboot normally to see if it makes a difference
[06:03] <gnomefreak> damo21: you can install xfce on breezy
[06:03] <damo21> i did, but it seems to break things
[06:03] <_jason> !info streamtuner
[06:03] <ubotu> streamtuner: (A GUI audio stream directory browser), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.99.99-5ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 581 kB, Installed size: 2064 kB
[06:03] <gnomefreak> you need universe enabled
[06:04] <gnomefreak> damo21: define breaks things
[06:04] <damo21> i have multiverse and universe enabled, but like, usb automounting doesnt work anymore, and i cant access the cups print server
[06:04] <damo21> i might have to reinstall
[06:04] <gnomefreak> who just pmed me and why?
[06:05] <krz> _jason nope, since like it didnt do much ..
[06:05] <krz> _jason still get the error at normal boot. i think ill just backup and reinstall
[06:05] <MstrJeff> gnomefreak: might have been me
[06:05] <_jason> krz: remove gdm and install it again
[06:05] <gnomefreak> MstrJeff: what did you need?
[06:05] <MstrJeff> some help w/ php-mysql errors
[06:06] <gnomefreak> damo21: im not real sure why. im assuming xubuntu-desktop is staying same in breezy
[06:06] <gnomefreak> MstrJeff: i dont use either
[06:06] <damo21> gnomefreak: im hoping the permission bugs with HAL and stuff are fixed in dapper
[06:07] <jsestri2> i'm having trouble getting starting up if i have my onboard audio enabled. If it is enabled the startup hangs at "starting hotplug subsystem" and if its disabled, it flys right through. Any suggestions?
[06:07] <MstrJeff> ok, thanks
[06:07] <visik7> !automatix
[06:07] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:07] <damo21> gnomefreak: for some reason, pmount is trying to automount the wrong partition on my usb sticks so i get an error every time i plug it in
[06:07] <visik7> !easyubuntu
[06:07] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[06:07] <_jason> krz: I jsut scrolled up and saw your xserver error, I doubt gdm is the problem
[06:07] <eugman> So if I have ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed on a computer will there be any problems?
[06:08] <krz> _jason what do you think it is?
[06:08] <edouard> Bonjour, je viens d'installer ubuntu. Mon cran est un 17" classique mais l'affichage est bomb... en 85 Hz et en 60 Hz ca scintille. Que puis-je faire ?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> eugman: not unless you are using dapper
[06:08] <eugman> darn
[06:08] <gnomefreak> !fr
[06:08] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:08] <Janne_doe|aw> edouard ils parlent anglais
[06:08] <_jason> krz: an xserver problem :)
[06:08] <gnomefreak> eugman: dapper xubuntu-desktop is being upgraded and does not work
[06:08] <eugman> oh wait thats good
[06:09] <gnomefreak> eugman: breezy will work fine
[06:09] <damo21> i just would like a separate choice to install xfce clean without the gnome desktop
[06:09] <gnomefreak> _should_
[06:09] <eugman> Sorry I misread it as saying it's a new feature in dapper
[06:09] <thegladiator> can I display the desktop ?
[06:09] <thegladiator> and switch desktop also if possible ?
[06:09] <edouard> Janne_doe, xcuse me suis tromp de chan ^^
[06:09] <Janne_doe> ^^
[06:09] <gnomefreak> damo21: you will have to wait and see if they include it in dapper last i heard was it will bve
[06:09] <jsestri2> anyone got ideas as to why hotplug might not work with my onboard audio or what to do about it?
[06:09] <thegladiator> usin keyboard can I display the desktop ?
[06:09] <colm> damo21, install server then apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <thegladiator> whats the key combination to display your desktop ?
[06:10] <Janne_doe> edouard si tu veux il y a un chan franais pour ubuntu
[06:10] <gnomefreak> !fr
[06:10] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:10] <thegladiator> are there any keys to switch dektops also ?
[06:10] <damo21> colm: really?? i can install the server version like that and add xfce later? cool
[06:10] <eugman> Hey would a live cd like knoppix or something else be better suited than a ubuntu installation for repairing a broken registry hive?
[06:10] <gnomefreak> damo21: yes
[06:10] <edouard> Janne_doe, oui je sais merci
[06:10] <colm> yes, did that on my old laptop.  works well.  just type "server" at CD boot prompt
[06:10] <Makaraki> sorry, but I had a look to the mplayerinstallhowto but my computer can not find the package
[06:10] <damo21> Thanks heaps guys i will try that
[06:11] <gnomefreak> eugman: registry hive?
[06:11] <gaz-> hi ive had to reinstall windows which has overwritten grub how can i get into ubuntu to reinstall grub as the ubuntu dvd doesnt offer me a rescue mode?
[06:11] <eugman> On a widows partition
[06:11] <thegladiator> whats the key combination to display your desktop ?
[06:11] <Makaraki> maybe I have to add some new sources to my apt sources list, anyone knows which are the correct?
[06:11] <damo21> colm: did usb automounting work on that laptop?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> eugman: i dont know if you can do that or not i try to use windows to fix windows problems
[06:12] <Makaraki> hi
[06:12] <dyrne> Makaraki: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list remove the # in front of any url then save changes then sudo apt-get update then try to install again
[06:12] <colm> yes, my digital camera (sony) works fine
[06:12] <NoWhereMan[away] > hi all
[06:12] <jsestri2> how do you search the apt-get package list?
[06:12] <damo21> colm: the icon appears in the filemanager home?
[06:12] <iceman_> Whats the most featured DVD player for Ubuntu ?
[06:12] <colm> thegladiator, have a look at system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[06:12] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: apt-cache search package
[06:12] <user__> first time here     quite nice
[06:12] <NoWhereMan[away] > i don't know what i installed, but a "debian" menu appeared in my applications menu... does anybody know how can i get rid of it?
[06:12] <thegladiator> thanks
[06:12] <eugman> Yes well the only way I know to fix it with windows would be a complete wipe of any settings via reinstall over exisiting installation.
[06:13] <amphi> NoWhereMan[away] : oh, the horror! ;)
[06:13] <gnomefreak> NoWhereMan[away] : if you find out what it was let me know i cant figure out how to get mine back :(
[06:13] <colm> damo21, can't remember, it's unplugged just now.  think it mounts on /media/...
[06:13] <thegladiator> colm, what is the meaning of 0xd ? control  ?
[06:13] <colm> thegladiator,
[06:13] <NoWhereMan[away] > amphi: you lost it and you want it back?
[06:13] <damo21> colm: i have problems setting up printing in xfce did u try connecting to network printer?
[06:13] <carpediem> gnomefreak: its available in apt
[06:13] <gnomefreak> carpediem: under what name?
[06:13] <amphi> NoWhereMan[away] : ?
[06:13] <thegladiator> yes colm
[06:13] <carpediem> gnomefreak: debian menu :p
[06:13] <gnomefreak> ah ty i will try it
[06:14] <NoWhereMan[away] > amphi: sorry wrong person :P
[06:14] <thegladiator> i say s 0xda
[06:14] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: I searched for "realtek" and it only gave me errors...this means there is nothing? a search for ati yielded a ton of stuff
[06:14] <thegladiator> etc
[06:14] <carpediem> gnomefreak: may have a dash, may not.
[06:14] <NoWhereMan[away] > gnomefreak: you lost it and you want it back? O_o
[06:14] <Makaraki> hi again, somebody knows a source to add to my sources.list to finally download mplayer
[06:14] <carpediem> NoWhereMan[away] : sec, I can tell you how to get rid of it.
[06:14] <gnomefreak> NoWhereMan[away] : yes
[06:14] <frank23> iceman_: for DVDs, a player that uses xine is best, so kaffeine, totem-xine
[06:14] <NoWhereMan[away] > carpediem: thanx :)
[06:14] <dyrne> Makaraki: sudo apt-get instal mplayer-586 doesnt work?
[06:14] <Makaraki> no
[06:14] <thegladiator> does anyone know what does 0x means in the keyboard shortcuts ?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> carpediem: no name like that
[06:14] <Makaraki> it doesn't
[06:14] <BockBilbo> can someone tell me how to remove a dir called " [./ "
[06:14] <iceman_> frank23 thanks
[06:14] <BockBilbo> ??
[06:14] <carpediem> NoWhereMan[away] : You install the App Menu Editor, and uncheck it.....I'm trying to remember the package name, sec.
[06:15] <iceman_> brb
[06:15] <BockBilbo> cant manage to delete it with rm
[06:15] <BockBilbo> ...
[06:15] <carpediem> gnomefreak: sec, I'll find it.
[06:15] <amphi> thegladiator: that the number is hexadecimal?
[06:15] <ubuntu> hello
[06:15] <ubuntu> some one can help me?
[06:15] <eugman> BockBilbo what happen when you try to
[06:15] <thegladiator> dont think so , it stand for keyboard shortcut
[06:15] <BockBilbo> nothing
[06:15] <BockBilbo> it just doesnt remove it
[06:15] <eugman> but you don't get any errors?
[06:15] <BockBilbo> i do rm -Rf  [./
[06:16] <BockBilbo> no
[06:16] <BockBilbo> see
[06:16] <thegladiator> like it says OPen browser--- 0xda like that
[06:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> rm -r
[06:16] <gnomefreak> carpediem: ty i just tried searching for debian and i didnt see it
[06:16] <carpediem> thegladiator: ah, I remember where I saw it....in Automatix
[06:16] <BockBilbo> that folder was created by an error on a fat32 fs
[06:16] <carpediem> thegladiator: sorry, tab completion
[06:16] <BockBilbo> :S
[06:16] <amphi> thegladiator: ghod knows what that refers to - a keycode?
[06:16] <dyrne> Makaraki: copy the breezy universe urls and just substitute multiverse for universe assuming youre on breezy
[06:16] <NoWhereMan[away] > carpediem: thanx
[06:16] <Makaraki> Hola alguien sabe porque no puedo hacer sudo apt-get install mplayer-586?
[06:16] <thegladiator> tab compleation ?
[06:16] <carpediem> gnomefreak: I saw it in automatix.
[06:16] <eugman> I know one option bockbillbo
[06:16] <gnomefreak> carpediem: yuck
[06:16] <amphi> !tell Makaraki about es
[06:16] <BockBilbo> which one eugman ?
[06:16] <carpediem> thegladiator: in other words, wrong person
[06:16] <ubuntu> i just got the ubuntu live CD and was wondering is there is a way to install it to a HDD?
[06:16] <thegladiator> oh :)
[06:16] <eugman> sudo nautilus
[06:17] <carpediem> gnomefreak: Let me see what it does to enable it.
[06:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: that is a keyboard key like 0x08
[06:17] <eugman> then try removing it through nautilus
[06:17] <Makaraki> dyrne: ok I will do it
[06:17] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: that's what I was tentatively assuming
[06:17] <carpediem> NoWhereMan[away] : sudo apt-get install smeg
[06:17] <frank23> ubuntu: you need the install cd to install ubuntu.
[06:17] <BockBilbo> eugman, lets see
[06:17] <Xenguy> ubuntu: do you have the other CD that comes with the set?
[06:17] <ubuntu> nope
[06:17] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: but X progs more conventionally use keysyms rather than keycodes
[06:17] <ubuntu> where do i get it ?
[06:17] <Makaraki> dyrne: yes I'm on breesy
[06:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: ahh...
[06:18] <eugman> Also I'm pretty sure you use a lower r to recurse with rm but you'd have to check the man pages.
[06:18] <jsestri2> can anyone help me get my onboard audio initialized?
[06:18] <NoWhereMan[away] > carpediem: already installed
[06:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> eugman: yes, rm -r
[06:18] <BockBilbo> eugman, ... (<unknown>:6473): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: gnome_vfs_file_info_dup: assertion `orig != NULL' failed
[06:18] <a2xm> hi all.. question: there's a file named "dead.letter" on my home folder. what's it?
[06:18] <carpediem> NoWhereMan[away] : then Applications > System Tools >Application Menu Editor
[06:18] <Xenguy> ubuntu: talk to whomever gave you the live cd (or d/l and burn an Ubu install CD yourself :-)
[06:18] <NoWhereMan[away] > carpediem: yes, done, thanx :)
[06:18] <frank23> ubuntu: where did you get the live cd?
[06:18] <carpediem> NoWhereMan[away] : np
[06:18] <a2xm> I hope it's not a virus
[06:18] <visik7> anyone who knows how ubuntu kernel is modified from vanilla ?
[06:18] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: eg. 'Prev_Virtual_Screen' rather than 'keycode 234'
[06:19] <Xenguy> a2xm: no...
[06:19] <colm> thegladiator, sorry afk... 0x99  are keycodes for non standard keys (EG like the ones on my ms keyboard for calc, media, volume etc.)
[06:19] <ubuntu> i DL the CD my self
[06:19] <b00> lo there,  does ubuntu have most of the packages debian does ?:
[06:19] <thegladiator> ah thanks
[06:19] <eugman> I dunno how to solve that. However you need to use the arguments -rf not -Rf when emptying a folder
[06:19] <a2xm> Xenguy, so, what is it?
[06:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> my windows key opens firefox:-)
[06:19] <Xenguy> a2xm: that usually comes from emailers like pine (or mutt?) when an email is aborted unfinished IIRC
[06:19] <amphi> thegladiator: if xev shows no keysym for a key, you can use xmodmap to assign a keysym
[06:19] <erUSUL> visik7, aplying patches. Ben collins mantains the ubuntu kernel
[06:19] <thegladiator> yep
[06:20] <Makaraki> dyrne: It's already universe
[06:20] <brainiac_ghost> for some reason XGL is using MESA
[06:20] <brainiac_ghost> :(
[06:20] <jroes> should firefox ever use 165mb of ram? :P
[06:20] <amphi> thegladiator: it makes things a bit easier to read than hex values
[06:20] <Xenguy> a2xm: it should just be a text file I think
[06:20] <Makaraki> dyrne: I made no changes
[06:20] <eva_> is there an option without downloading big software packages to convert wma to mp3?
[06:20] <amphi> jroes: there's no upper limit AFAIK ;)
[06:20] <jroes> (it's using 16.5% mem and I've got 1gb)
[06:20] <eugman> Also you will probable need a sudo before that or you should be able otherwise to delete it bu normal nautilus instead of a root file browser
[06:20] <BockBilbo> eugman, i know.. but that doesnt woek
[06:20] <BockBilbo> :S
[06:20] <jsestri2> jroes: the windows version has never done that for me
[06:20] <erUSUL> eva_, soun-converter
[06:20] <atoponce> jroes, how many tabs are open and how long have you been using it?
[06:20] <jroes> I'm on kubuntu
[06:20] <eva_> is it big?
[06:20] <erUSUL> eva_, sound-converter
[06:20] <eugman> I dunno then soryy
[06:20] <jroes> 6 tabs, it's probably been open since yesterday
[06:20] <BockBilbo> oks, thanks anyway eugman
[06:20] <dyrne> Makaraki: copy both the deb and deb-src universe urls paste at bottom of file and change the universe at the end to multiverse and save
[06:20] <a2xm> Xenguy, so just leave it there? chown by root
[06:21] <frank23> jroes: yeah firefox does that. i dont know why
[06:21] <erUSUL> !info  soundconverter
[06:21] <ubotu> soundconverter: (simple sound converter application for GNOME), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.8.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[06:21] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with my onboard audio?
[06:21] <atoponce> jroes, it is a caching feature.  the more you navigate, the more memory is occupied for faster page loading.
[06:21] <dyrne> Makaraki: you want both a universe and multiverse
[06:21] <jroes> ah
[06:21] <jsestri2> !realtek
[06:21] <ubotu> jsestri2: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:21] <tecs> i upgraded....should i keep my etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc or replace it with the update? what does it do anyway
[06:21] <erUSUL> eva_, 208 kb
[06:21] <atoponce> jroes, you can disable it
[06:21] <Xenguy> a2xm: have a look at it if it is text, and then you can do what you want with it (keep, delete, etc)
[06:21] <jroes> good to know
[06:21] <jsestri2> !audio driver
[06:21] <ubotu> jsestri2: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:21] <Makaraki> dyrne: ok I will do it
[06:21] <eva_> erUSUL, thanks
[06:21] <atoponce> but your pages will suffer in performance
[06:21] <a2xm> Xenguy, thanks
[06:21] <erUSUL> eva_, no problem
[06:22] <jroes> I don't mind it, except I doubt it works cooperatively enough with the OS to make sure that memory is available for use by other programs
[06:22] <Xenguy> a2xm: sure
[06:22] <jroes> (if in desperate need
[06:22] <carpediem> gnomefreak: okay, what automatix does is "sudo apt-get --assume-yes install menu menu-xdg pdmenu"  then "sudo update-menus"
[06:22] <atoponce> it'll keep eating away, but there is a cap, just not sure what it is
[06:22] <speyer> how do i switch to root user ? su root doesnt work , i mean i didnt set a password for root and passwd root doesnt allow me to do it :) any ideea ?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !root
[06:23] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> learn how ubuntu does rooty-things. :P
[06:23] <jroes> it's also pretty odd considering I can open a new tab, type in http://www.google.com, then open another, and another, and continuously see it do a DNS lookup anyways
[06:23] <erUSUL> speyer, sudo -s
[06:23] <atoponce> jroes, http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/009749.html
[06:23] <gnomefreak> ok ty carpediem
[06:23] <colm> speyer, there is very very little you actually need to be root for
[06:23] <Xenguy> speyer: or sudo -i (if you want root's environment)
[06:24] <speyer> thanks all
[06:24] <carpediem> gnomefreak: if you try it, let me know if it works.  I just want to know for reference.
[06:24] <a2xm> Xenguy, :-D  it's an mail about Configuring mysql-server .. phiuh..
[06:25] <Xenguy> a2xm: there ya go :-)
[06:25] <speyer> its gtk-switch available on unbuntu ? iwill like to change border size and fonts for all aplications
[06:25] <dyrne> Makaraki: this is a copy of my preset sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8888
[06:25] <jroes> atoponce: ah
[06:25] <jroes> atoponce: thanks ;)
[06:25] <a2xm> Xenguy, do you kanow about samba?
[06:25] <gnomefreak> ok carpediem (im grabbing them manulaly
[06:25] <atoponce> jroes, np.  hth.  :)
[06:25] <Xenguy> a2xm: I don't use it
[06:25] <jsestri2> any ideas for fixing ubuntu to play nicely with my motherboard's onboard audio?
[06:26] <rambo3> tha smp : localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold | localhost kernel: CPU1: Temperature above threshold
[06:26] <eva_> ok, i found the package - how do i install it from my harddisk?
[06:26] <dahump> anyone in here know why amarok won't play radio stations? System sound works, amarok shows the file being buffered, but no sound comes out.
[06:26] <carpediem> Anyone tried the Second Life Linux alpha on Ubuntu?  It wfm, but it always crashes in 5-10 minutes of gameplay.
[06:26] <Xenguy> !tell jsestri2 about sound
[06:26] <frank23> dahump: i dont know but if had no problems using amarok-xine
[06:26] <frank23> dahump: install it and change the engine in the settings
[06:27] <eva_> how to install a .deb package?
[06:27] <Xenguy> eva_: dpkg -i
[06:27] <speyer> any ideea about the gtk-switch ? its available or not ?
[06:27] <ubuntu> is the ubuntu install cd just one or is there 4 like FC4?
[06:27] <damo21> Anyone know if its possible to configure gnome so that the workspaces are accessible by moving the mouse off the edge of the screen, just like xfce?
[06:27] <jsestri2> !sound
[06:27] <ubotu> sound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:27] <dahump> amarok-xine?
[06:27] <carpediem> ubuntu: just one
[06:27] <Xenguy> ubotu: you only need the 1st one
[06:27] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Xenguy
[06:27] <rambo3> you can check repos and wiki before questioning
[06:27] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: hmmm, is the xgl thing coming with the live cd of flight cd4 by default or do i need to switch to it/enable it somehow?
[06:27] <Xenguy> hah
[06:27] <Makaraki> dyrne: Now it works thanks for your help I'll keep it in mind thanks a lot
[06:27] <Xenguy> ubuntu: you only need the 1st one
[06:27] <ubuntu> ok is that all i need?
[06:28] <dyrne> Makaraki: np
[06:28] <carpediem> ubuntu: should be, yes
[06:28] <ubuntu> what the others for?
[06:28] <midwinter> damo21, install brightside
[06:28] <damo21> brightside?
[06:28] <rambo3> play freesbe
[06:28] <jsestri2> Xenguy: I'm not sure if its a bug, or just an inproper setup
[06:28] <damo21> is that a new wm?
[06:28] <Xenguy> ubuntu: if you have a broadband net connection, you don't need the other stuff on CD
[06:29] <midwinter> damo21, it's just a small program that lets you do that stuff in gnome.
[06:29] <aroman> damn I wish there were mirrors in the US or Canada :(
[06:29] <ubuntu> y is that?
[06:29] <damo21> yayyyy
[06:29] <aroman> :( slow download of flight 4 :(
[06:29] <Xenguy> jsestri2: if you are unable to get things going by following the HOWTO, then crimsun is very knowledgeable about sound
[06:30] <brainiac_ghost> dorel, need to enable it
[06:30] <brainiac_ghost> dorel, but it is amazing.
[06:30] <Xenguy> ubuntu: because you install the base system and then just download everything else you need off the net :-)
[06:30] <jsestri2> Xenguy: alright, thanks
[06:30] <speyer> how bout more apt sources for atp  i will like to install mplayer
[06:30] <Xenguy> jsestri2: yw
[06:30] <ubuntu> aww ok
[06:30] <Xenguy> !tell jsestri2 about repos
[06:30] <axisys> !banshee
[06:30] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[06:31] <speyer> !repos
[06:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:31] <ubuntu> how do i find out if my computer is I386 or what ever it is ?
[06:31] <rambo3> !win
[06:31] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[06:31] <Xenguy> jsestri2: sorry that was for someone else
[06:31] <larson9999> hello, i've been using linux forever but not a debian based distro.  anyway, the question i have is installing the nvidia drivers basically the same as with mandrake. i.e. change the runlevel and run NV*run?
[06:31] <speyer> !easysource
[06:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubuntu: Is it a standard PC?
[06:31] <ubuntu> standard?
[06:31] <dyrne> ubotu: for info on your processor try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:31] <jsestri2> crimsun: are you there?
[06:31] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dyrne
[06:31] <TU2> how can i make a program run when X starts? .xinit and .Xsession odsn't work
[06:32] <Xenguy> !tell larson9999 about nvidia
[06:32] <dyrne> ubuntu: for info on your processor try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:32] <rambo3> if you used linux forever then you should have read topic and read wiki for answer , so i doubt it
[06:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubuntu: Intel/AMD kind of thing
[06:32] <cyberic_s> anytime I try to view a movie in firefox, it says totem cannot play the movie, I might need the plug in
[06:32] <Xenguy> TU2: are you using GNOME?
[06:32] <baWoneR`> hi
[06:32] <geneo93> ubuntu 386's were made in the early 90's
[06:32] <cyberic_s> so do I need a totem plug in or a wmv plug in?
[06:32] <TU2> Xenguy no. Fluxbox.  So it needs to not be started by the window manager
[06:33] <jsestri2> Xenguy: is there a way to leave a message for crimsun, or I just wait till sometime when he's on?
[06:33] <amphi> TU2: ~/.xsession will work
[06:33] <visik7> cyberic_s: I use gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[06:33] <Xenguy> TU2: .xinitrc or .xsession should be the files you need then IIRC
[06:33] <baWoneR`> iam a ubuntu guru (h)
[06:33] <frank23> !restricted
[06:33] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:33] <cyberic_s> ok thanks visik7
[06:33] <TU2> amphi Xenguy neither of those work for some reason.
[06:33] <gnomefreak> carpediem: it adds the debian menu but doesnt add anything to the menu
[06:34] <amphi> TU2: .xsession works perfectly here (debian)
[06:34] <carpediem> gnomefreak: did you run "sudo update-menus"
[06:34] <HappyFool> jsestri2: Tried memoserv? /msg memoserv help
[06:34] <Xenguy> jsestri2: I would think you would want to try the HOWTO's first though
[06:34] <TU2> hrm.  That dosn't make sense.
[06:34] <TU2> i KNOW the file is right..
[06:34] <TU2> does it have to be chmod u+x?
[06:34] <jsestri2> Xenguy: which howto's are you talking about... the website ubotu gave me?
[06:34] <frank23> cyberic_s: check the restrictedformats page. for wmv you need w32codecs
[06:34] <Xenguy> TU2: they should, but I have only used GNOME and XFCE on Ubu myself
[06:34] <gnomefreak> yes still no go
[06:35] <Xenguy> jsestri2: ask ubotu about sound
[06:35] <TU2> gnome is a piece of shit.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> TU2,  wow.. how original. :)
[06:35] <TU2> nicholas@student5-382:~$ cat .xsession
[06:35] <TU2> ~/.fluxbox/slitapps/monto
[06:35] <atoponce> TU2, gnome isn't that bad...
[06:35] <TU2> No. it is.
[06:35] <Xenguy> TU2: it works for me alright, but I use xfce on slower hardware
[06:35] <TU2> thats my .xsession i see no reason for that no to work.
[06:35] <aroman> TU2, maybe you should give some solid reasons before making such assertions?
[06:35] <atoponce> to each their own, i guess
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> use the full path, is always a good idea.
[06:35] <aroman> I suppose...
[06:35] <cyberic_s> thanks frank23
[06:36] <IdleOne> !xfce
[06:36] <ubotu> xfce is probably a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[06:36] <gnomefreak> noone is forcing you to use gnome feel free to use one of the other 300 wm
[06:36] <jsestri2> Xenguy, those howto's see to all need to run commands, but i can't even boot if my onboard audio is enabled, and if it is diabled, then there is no sign of it once ubuntu has started via lspci etc.
[06:36] <renlore> any good podcast client out there? :)
[06:36] <geneo93> windows of any class is a piece of shit not gnome
[06:36] <carpediem> gnomefreak: hrm, don't know what to say then.  Running automatix added it for me, and that's what it ran.  Can't explain it.  Perhaps a logout will do it, but I doubt it.
[06:37] <atoponce> i personally enjoy the simiplicity of gnome
[06:37] <ubuntu> ok all it says is P3
[06:37] <geneo93> 686 then ubuntu
[06:37] <gnomefreak> carpediem: it wont i restarted gnome-panel that should have done it but didnt :(
[06:37] <ubuntu> what 686
[06:38] <geneo93> its classed as 686
[06:38] <ubuntu> really
[06:38] <geneo93> yes
[06:38] <ubuntu> ok cool i was useing i386
[06:38] <ubuntu> and the live cd is i386
[06:38] <rambo3> thats not a problem ubuntu
[06:38] <geneo93> ubuntu thats the default install
[06:38] <ubuntu> what the diff?
[06:39] <geneo93> 686 is optimized for faster processors
[06:39] <Xenguy> jsestri2: wow, are you able to boot up with in rescue mode at all then?
[06:39] <skunk_eyed> Is there a way to get Firefox 1.5 in breezy through apt? cos i can only find 1.0.7
[06:39] <IdleOne> so installing xfce removes gnome?
[06:39] <atoponce> skunk_eyed, nope
[06:39] <rambo3> its more specific for you processor, so it should work better/faster  10 ^-100 miliseconds
[06:40] <ubuntu> so if i use a i386 cd  and iam 686 i just made my self slower?
[06:40] <atoponce> skunk-eyed, unless you upgrade to dapper
[06:40] <Xenguy> jsestri2: I'm not sure what to suggest; you probably need someone more knowledgeable about hardware than I am frankly
[06:40] <elfstone> ubuntu, yes
[06:40] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: no
[06:40] <Xenguy> biab
[06:40] <elfstone> ubuntu, what's your CPU ?
[06:40] <skunk_eyed> can't be bothered, as i am about to install gentoo
[06:40] <dyrne> ubuntu: but the default install will be 386 you can upgrade that after install
[06:40] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  how do it work ?
[06:40] <HappyFool> !ff1.5
[06:40] <geneo93> ubuntu i doubt if you will see much difference
[06:40] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:40] <ubuntu> processor       : 0
[06:40] <ubuntu> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[06:40] <ubuntu> cpu family      : 6
[06:40] <ubuntu> model           : 7
[06:40] <ubuntu> model name      : Pentium III (Katmai)
[06:40] <ubuntu> stepping        : 3
[06:40] <ubuntu> cpu MHz         : 497.959
[06:40] <ubuntu> cache size      : 512 KB
[06:40] <ubuntu> fdiv_bug        : no
[06:40] <ubuntu> hlt_bug         : no
[06:41] <ubuntu> f00f_bug        : no
[06:41] <HappyFool> no pasting, please
[06:41] <ubuntu> coma_bug        : no
[06:41] <jsestri2> Xenguy, well the problem is with the hotplug subsystem. for whatever reason it hangs indefinitely at that stage of startup when i try to boot with the audio enabled
[06:41] <elfstone> hmmmm, don't paste that much in channel :/
[06:41] <ubuntu> fpu             : yes
[06:41] <ubuntu> fpu_exception   : yes
[06:41] <amphi> ubuntu: wtf?
[06:41] <ubuntu> cpuid level     : 2
[06:41] <ubuntu> wp              : yes
[06:41] <atoponce> *then
[06:41] <ubuntu> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse
[06:41] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: after you isntall it log out and on the log-in screen click sessions choose xfce and than log in
[06:41] <ubuntu> bogomips        : 987.13
[06:41] <axisys> ubuntu: use pastebin.com
[06:41] <ki4ikl> Does anyone in here know how to set up a belkin f5d7050 usb network adapter?
[06:41] <hatake_kakashi> !tell ubuntu about pastebin
[06:41] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  ok thanks
[06:41] <axisys> ubuntu: and paste all info there
[06:41] <thehil> how can I figure out where to put the WIN32 codecs for mplayer??
[06:41] <elfstone> ubuntu, that's a PIII/500, so it is i686
[06:41] <ubuntu> aww ok
[06:41] <brainiac_ghost>  sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-15-k7/volatile/fglrx.ko
[06:41] <brainiac_ghost> insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.15-15-k7/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 Operation not permitted
[06:42] <ubuntu> sorry about pasting guys aim new
[06:42] <dyrne> thehil: i believe /usr/lib/win32/
[06:42] <elfstone> ubuntu, it's ok, just don't do it again :)
[06:42] <amphi> ubuntu: on pain of a sound larting ;)
[06:42] <ki4ikl> does anyone know how to set up a f5d7050 usb network adapter in breezy?
[06:43] <thehil> dyrne: I have that working in xine, not mplayer. do you have a clue?
[06:43] <Makaraki> well people have fun and see ya
[06:43] <UberShrike> thehil: no he doesn't
[06:43] <speyer> hmm i enabled couple of other repos. and i still cannot find mplayer
[06:43] <ubuntu> ok now all i see is amd64 i386 powerPC
[06:43] <ubuntu> no 686
[06:43] <IdleOne> !restrictedformats
[06:43] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:44] <amphi> ubuntu: don't worry about it, i386 is fine
[06:44] <IdleOne> speyer:  follow that link
[06:44] <samia> ok everybody talk in english?
[06:44] <ubuntu> iam worried
[06:44] <ubuntu> i dont wont to wast a CD
[06:44] <HappyFool> speyer: it's named 'mplayer-386' (and other processor specific names)
[06:44] <elfstone> samia, yes
[06:45] <iGad_BigDisk> how much server probs can one man take in one weekend....?!
[06:45] <elfstone> ubuntu, just download i386, you'll upgrade to i686 kernel and such by downloading
[06:45] <amphi> !tell samia about fr
[06:45] <jsestri2> can anyone help me get my onboard audio card to boot with ubuntu nicely?
[06:45] <speyer> my bad i didnt change universe to universe multiverse
[06:45] <speyer> thanks
[06:45] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: uhmm, how do i enable it? (can it be done from the live cd?)
[06:45] <ubuntu> man i dont want to dlwn load after i just did
[06:45] <iGad_BigDisk> !tell iGad_BigDisk about how f*cked up windows 2003 is
[06:46] <samia> someone talk in french here??
[06:46] <IdleOne> !fr
[06:46] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:46] <iceman_> I need the Nvidia howto link please ?
[06:46] <samia> ok merci bccp
[06:46] <IdleOne> pas de probleme
[06:46] <amphi> samia: you got no message from the bot?
[06:46] <iceman_> !nvidia
[06:46] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:46] <brainiac_ghost> dorel, no
[06:46] <brainiac_ghost> !ati
[06:46] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:47] <snoozix> where's the difference between "ubuntu-desktop" and "xubuntu-desktop"?
[06:48] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: ahh so i must install flight cd4 then for enabling xgl?
[06:48] <amphi> snoozix: gnome or lack thereof, I believe
[06:48] <HappyFool> !xubuntu
[06:48] <ubotu> it has been said that xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[06:48] <brainiac_ghost> dorel, yes
[06:48] <snoozix> ah
[06:48] <snoozix> thanks a loz
[06:48] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: ahh ok
[06:48] <HappyFool> xfce is pretty cool
[06:48] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: i already started downloading the live cd... i thought i can see it live
[06:48] <snoozix> Happuf: i know, but i don't really like it so much.
[06:48] <Ryugi> helllo
[06:48] <speyer> are the win32codecs not available ?
[06:49] <ki4ikl> does anyone in here use the f5d7050 usb card in ubuntu?
[06:49] <snoozix> Happuf: i'm fluxbox/wmaker/kde :)
[06:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell speyer about w32codecs
[06:49] <snoozix> Happuf: don't ask me why, but that works for me.
[06:49] <gnomefreak> i want my xfce back :(
[06:49] <dorel> brainiac_ghost: can i install to the hd from the live cd? id hate downloading again the entire disc
[06:49] <snoozix> xfce3 was cool, years ago, i liked it a lot!
[06:49] <amphi> snoozix: openbox is pleasant
[06:50] <ubuntu> good Q dorel
[06:50] <Ryugi> i would like to know if i install kubuntu over ubuntu if it would just add kde to ubuntu or do a complete install
[06:50] <dorel> :)
[06:50] <snoozix> amphi: i like fluxbox better, nevertheless i also made some openbox styles. but i've made 3 or 4 fluxbox styles by myself and really like fluxbox.
[06:50] <snoozix> Ryugi: i think there is no real way to do this.
[06:50] <MonoNoSaint> hey, me and my Xgl questions again... :P
[06:50] <atoponce> Ryugi, it will add KDE to ubuntu
[06:50] <jsestri2> how do you find out what version your running kernel is?
[06:50] <MonoNoSaint> I'm downloading dapper flight 4...
[06:51] <atoponce> Ryugi, then you can choose between gnome and kde
[06:51] <snoozix> jsestri2: uname -a
[06:51] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: uname -r
[06:51] <MonoNoSaint> jsestri2: uname -r
[06:51] <HappyFool> jsestri2: uname -r  (or uname -a)
[06:51] <_jason> eek
[06:51] <dyrne> dorel: you cannot install from livecd. well you could i guess.. but it would be an experience
[06:51] <amphi> snoozix: fluxbox was pretty unstable and buggy in my experience, but openbox is rock solid - perhaps fb has improved
[06:51] <dorel> i guess ill be downloading the install cd as well
[06:51] <colm> I used to love fluxbox, but I found it tricky when jumping computers - windows/mac/solaris/linux - so I now just use gnome on linux.  Fluxbox is too different
[06:51] <Ryugi> ok
[06:51] <dorel> dyrne: yeah im downloading the install cd. i figure if there's an install cd then there's a reason for that :)
[06:51] <dorel> dyrne: thanks
[06:51] <MonoNoSaint> and I was wondering... will Xgl + Compiz run without an acceleration card?
[06:51] <snoozix> amphi: i could not say that fluxbox is unstable at all. it IS rock solid in my views.
[06:51] <atoponce> Ryugi, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:51] <Gunner112k> I have a problem with my fresh ubuntu install. When I log in with my user it says there's no sound peripheral although in the login screen I can still hear the tribal drums sfx. help plz.
[06:51] <amphi> snoozix: cool, it used to crash a lot when I used it
[06:51] <gnomefreak> MonoNoSaint: i dont think so
[06:52] <MonoNoSaint> I just have a chip on my ASUS motherboard ....
[06:52] <snoozix> atoponce: that didn't change anything here. i did apt-get install kde before and after that apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but i couldn't find a difference between those 2 states.
[06:52] <damo21> Is there a metapackage to get a full C development environment in ubuntu?
[06:52] <MonoNoSaint> gnomefreak: even slow, it won't run?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> MonoNoSaint: maybe #xgl-ubuntu might be of more help
[06:52] <_jason> damo21: build-essential
[06:52] <amphi> snoozix: to the extent I would start X with xinit and run fluxbox from the xterm, so it wouldn't take down X when it fell over ;)
[06:52] <MonoNoSaint> nice, thanks!
[06:52] <tecs> how come my konqueror wont open it says malformed url and cant locate kioo file
[06:53] <HappyFool> damo21: build-essential gets gcc, make and the libc dev stuff. You need to get specific dev packages for other libraries (X, Gnome, ... )
[06:53] <atoponce> snoozix, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installs kubuntu (KDE).  select it from the login screen
[06:53] <damo21> yep cool
[06:53] <ubuntu> omg what the big diff between ubuntu and kubuntu and all the other bunut's
[06:53] <snoozix> amphi: there are better ways to restart a wm if it crashes imho :)
[06:53] <jdumont> well that was a lesson learned.... installed edubuntu in 'server' mode and got a shell
[06:53] <Gunner112k> I have a problem with my fresh ubuntu install. When I log in with my user it says there's no sound peripheral although in the login screen I can still hear the tribal drums sfx. help plz.
[06:53] <atoponce> ubuntu, desktop managers and window managers
[06:53] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: pretty big difference
[06:53] <atoponce> ubuntu, and softwrae
[06:53] <snoozix> atoponce: i start kde with my xinitrc and "startkde".
[06:54] <makaveli> atoponce,  : do u know how many MB is kde?
[06:54] <damo21> im gonna build a few panel plugins for xubuntu
[06:54] <snoozix> atoponce: i don't want a desktop manager.
[06:54] <snoozix> atoponce: and i think i would just want kde 3.5
[06:54] <atoponce> makaveli, i don't
[06:54] <snoozix> atoponce: but that didn't work for me
[06:54] <jdumont> i wonder if all i had to do was sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop to get it... instead i reinstalled from scratch
[06:54] <amphi> snoozix: probably - typing 'fluxbox' in an xterm wasn't too onerous though
[06:54] <colm> jdumont, yes that's right
[06:54] <atoponce> snoozix, kde 3.4.3 is in the breezy repos, 3.5 in dapper
[06:54] <jdumont> doh!
[06:54] <gnomefreak> jdumont: yes you could have gotten it from apt
[06:54] <cyberic_s> I just installed apache and php, but it did not create a public_html folder in my /home dir
[06:54] <ubuntu> desktop manager and windows manager what that?
[06:54] <IdleOne> Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xfce rocks! its like I have a new computer lmao
[06:55] <snoozix> atoponce: why then is kubuntu dapper and ubuntu breezy?
[06:55] <amphi> IdleOne: heh
[06:55] <gnomefreak> lol IdleOne
[06:55] <snoozix> LOL
[06:55] <Gunner112k> I have a problem with my fresh ubuntu install. When I log in with my user it says there's no sound peripheral although in the login screen I can still hear the tribal drums sfx. help plz.
[06:55] <damo21> IdleOne: Yes exactly why i use xfce
[06:55] <IdleOne> I love this
[06:55] <atoponce> ubuntu, desktop manager manages your login, controls, and any windows managers
[06:55] <gnomefreak> snoozix: there is a kubuntu for dapper breezy and hoary
[06:55] <atoponce> ubuntu, window managers maintain how your software looks on the system
[06:55] <iGad_BigDisk> Gunner112k: sounds like a user rights prob to me...
[06:56] <ubuntu> so what is better?
[06:56] <damo21> IdleOne: check out the menu creation system
[06:56] <snoozix> gnomefreak: where can i get a dapper iso for ubuntu?
[06:56] <atoponce> snoozix, kubuntu in in dapper, breezy, hoary and warty
[06:56] <gnomefreak> oops forgot warty :(
[06:56] <IdleOne> damo21:  where at?
[06:56] <atoponce> ubuntu, for what?
[06:56] <colm> I'm loving tomboy notes!  anyone know of any other wiki-lite type apps?  would like tomboy to be just a little more functional
[06:56] <snoozix> atoponce: and where do i get a dapper iso?
[06:56] <mister_roboto> colm: have you looked at the standalong moinmoin?
[06:57] <atoponce> snoozix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[06:57] <Gunner112k> and any of my admin tools won't open
[06:57] <mister_roboto> colm: it's easy and simple and full function
[06:57] <damo21> IdleOne: click on the "settings" button on the panel and start configuring your new computer :D
[06:57] <brosioz> why if install eclipse it will install also mozilla-browser i alredy have firefox...
[06:57] <atoponce> snoozix, or you could change your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[06:57] <IdleOne> damo21:  will do ()
[06:57] <colm> mister_roboto, I tried to install that a while ago but ran into troubles.  Guessing that it's now easier to deploy
[06:57] <BenC> anyone know of a tool that will extract the el torito boot images from an ISO?
[06:58] <iGad_BigDisk> Gunner112k: like I'm saying... sounds like a user rights prob to me :p
[06:58] <ubuntu> i take it most people are useing ubuntu
[06:58] <speyer> ubuntu rocks man :)
[06:58] <damo21> IdleOne: xfce has a cool tool for creating your own custom start-menu type thing
[06:58] <mister_roboto> ubuntu: i'd like to see numbers on that out of curiosity. personally, i prefer kubuntu (like kde)
[06:58] <cyberic_s> ubuntu is awsome
[06:58] <atoponce> ubuntu, i am running all three: (x)(k)(u)buntu
[06:59] <IdleOne> I love how it hides the panel lol
[06:59] <Gunner112k> no... it doesn't even let me in, the admin tools completely lock up and close themselves
[06:59] <speyer> really fast and i love the ports :) aint that big as in gentoo but a lot faster the installing gentoo source package :)
[06:59] <ubuntu> omg running all 3
[06:59] <jdumont> so... my whole purpose is to setup an edubuntu server and have thin clients login and run apps via terminal server.  that's why i did the 'server' install.  but now i'm stuck as to where to go.  any pointers?
[06:59] <adub> URGENT:             My laptop key sensitivity goes out for  some reason from withiin X            <---- it took 5 minutes to type that
[06:59] <atoponce> why not?  it's all about choice  :)
[06:59] <erchache> hi
[07:00] <erchache> im triying to use freenx
[07:00] <erchache> i configure server and client correctly
[07:00] <Dreamstar> hi all
[07:00] <iGad_BigDisk> adub: check your system clock, is it running twice as fast as should be?
[07:00] <damo21> jdumont: try freenx
[07:00] <snoozix> atoponce: are you sure updating to dapper will work okay? i don't want to f*ck up my system :)
[07:00] <erchache> but when windows freenex client opens....show logo and after close....why? :-S
[07:00] <_jason> erchache: please try not to use enter as punctuation, it makes it difficult to follow your question
[07:00] <jdumont> is freenx a distro?
[07:00] <atoponce> snoozix, nope.  completely unstable.  install at your own risk
[07:00] <_jason> ubuntu: tell jdumont about freenx
[07:00] <colm> snoozix, then don't install dapper...  it's experimental (works ok here though)
[07:00] <atoponce> :)
[07:00] <damo21> jdumont: no its a package for ubuntu
[07:00] <Dreamstar> i need a little help trying to make my webcam working on linux, anybody can help me pls? thx!!!
[07:01] <snoozix> hm ok :)
[07:01] <mister_roboto> jdumont: you mean you don't want the clients to run X locally?
[07:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell jdumont about freenx
[07:01] <Gunner112k> no... it doesn't even let me in, the admin tools completely lock up and close themselves
[07:01] <erchache> _jason: i cant enter to my remote machine with freenx
[07:01] <adub> no it has correct time
[07:01] <_jason> erchache: can you ssh into it?
[07:01] <erchache> yes
[07:01] <navarone> mister_roboto, thnx now I am gonna have that song in my head all day...,s>
[07:01] <erchache> and autentication via freenx goes on...
[07:01] <jdumont> ah... good cuz i'm i don't want to be a wishy washy church hopper.  i want to focus one one or two distros.,\
[07:01] <mister_roboto> navarone: domo!
[07:01] <Dreamstar> any help for me? pls!!! :(((
[07:01] <erchache> _jason:open see big logo....and close....
[07:01] <_jason> erchache: are you connecting linux > linux or windows > linux?
[07:01] <iGad_BigDisk> adub: are you sure? Have you configured your clock to display seconds as well?
[07:02] <erchache> no linux > powerbook
[07:02] <erchache> and linux > linux
[07:02] <erchache> both fails same maner
[07:02] <ubuntu> anyone know where i can get ubuntu 686 install iso?
[07:02] <_jason> erchache: can you connect to your own computer?
[07:02] <Stormx2> Whats an alternative to gFTP or GNOME's FTP functionality?
[07:02] <navarone> mister_roboto, I was a fan of Styx...was even waiting for them to make movie based on song back in the day...sheesh I'm old...<s>
[07:02] <_jason> erchache: like using the client and server on the same machine
[07:02] <speyer> why removing totem player will remove ubuntu-desktop too ? its this ok ?
[07:02] <_jason> speyer: it is ok, ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[07:02] <erchache> oopps...no....im on my house....remote computer are on office
[07:02] <damo21> Stormx2: do you need a gFTP with SSL?
[07:03] <speyer> _jason thanks
[07:03] <dyrne> ubuntu: you will want to just ust the regular 386 installer the upgrade afterwards
[07:03] <mataks> Xappe: when i do the grub-install i got some error, it says that cannot read stage to correctly
[07:03] <mataks> Xappe still there?
[07:03] <adub> yess     herree
[07:03] <Stormx2> damo21: No, just a better FTP client
[07:03] <ubuntu> y is that dyrne
[07:03] <Dreamstar> <---- needs help to make a vivitar webcam work!!!
[07:03] <mister_roboto> navarone: it's funny... my name always brings in comments from the old-timers (i'm one too!)
[07:03] <jsestri2> what is the best way to backup the kernel?
[07:03] <damo21> Stormx2: better in what way
[07:03] <gnomefreak> carpediem: restarting gnome worked :) ty
[07:03] <arcskon> What is the recommendation for the best dvd player for ubuntu?
[07:03] <Stormx2> damo21: OK, different
[07:04] <iGad_BigDisk> 70% of Dapper flight 4 downloaded... lalalla
[07:04] <gnomefreak> arcskon: mplayer
[07:04] <dyrne> ubuntu: after install just type like: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 I think thats it
[07:04] <adub> just rraaaannn     ntpdate pool.ntp.org && sudo hwclock --systohc    and no luck
[07:04] <Stormx2> damo21: I just really don't like gFTP at all...
[07:04] <dyrne> ubuntu: and reboot
[07:04] <_jason> erchache: I had to enable ssl encryption once when I was on a windows box, try that?
[07:04] <Stormx2> damo21: Something a little more like windows' SmartFTP
[07:04] <navarone> mister_roboto, the robot in the video always reminded me of a cross between the Metropolis robot and the annoying lil robot from Buck Rogers
[07:04] <damo21> Stormx2: sorry i dont use ftp anyway
[07:05] <mister_roboto> Stormx2: i have't tried it but there is supposed to be a nice gui ftp plugin for firefox. might wanna try that extension
[07:05] <_jason> erchache: does it say 'authentication failed' or something else?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> _jason: have you tried the windows version of irssi yet?
[07:05] <adub> Gad  this  juussst   staaaaaartd
[07:05] <iGad_BigDisk> adub: no luck, as in - the clock doesn't go back, or it's not working at all?
[07:05] <_jason> gnomefreak: nope, how is it?
[07:05] <Dreamstar> ok i guess noone will help me..
[07:05] <Stormx2> mister_roboto: oooh cool.
[07:05] <gnomefreak> its cool i just not sure if i can run the scripts in it
[07:05] <dyrne> Stormx2: also i like just konqueror for ftp when not in console
[07:05] <ubuntu> there is no 686 iso?
[07:05] <mister_roboto> Dreamstar: what is the problem?
[07:05] <_jason> gnomefreak: you probably need to setup perl somehow
[07:06] <iGad_BigDisk> adub: just configure the clock on the bottom right part to display seconds as well
[07:06] <Stormx2> dyrne: Do you use KDE?
[07:06] <damo21> is there an auto-update plugin for the xubuntu desktop?
[07:06] <iGad_BigDisk> adub: then you can see if it's running at the correct speed
[07:06] <ejofee_> how do i change settings in motif? what is its config file?
[07:06] <adub> not wwoorrrkkiiiiiiing  ii  press  hhrrrd on kkeeeeeys to  typppe still aand hvvve  2 hold  them  iin
[07:06] <dyrne> Stormx2: i just switch figured if i was using k3b and konqueror and a few other tools.. might as well
[07:06] <adub> k
[07:06] <navarone> damo21, I dunno about auto update but you can install synaptic and use that for package manager
[07:06] <IdleOne> why doesnt ubuntu just use xfce? or does it have its limitations?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> yeah i figured that much i just havent had time to fiddle with it yet i might get to it this week i hope
[07:06] <_jason> adub: have you tried an external keyboard? or a different OS?
[07:06] <Dreamstar> mister_roboto: i'd like to make my vivitar webcam work
[07:06] <Gunner112k> now I have another problem. Everything I'm trying to open with administrator rights locks up on me before it even asks me for a password. plz help.
[07:07] <iceman_> wheres the power management controls in ubuntu gnome
[07:07] <mister_roboto> Dreamstar: ahhh. sorry, can't help. just didn't hear your question.   sorry
[07:07] <_jason> Gunner112k: what does 'sudo echo hi' do in a terminal?
[07:07] <iGad_BigDisk> adub: whoops... that's something else then. I had the opposite today, pressing a key once resulted in several keystrokes...
[07:07] <Dreamstar> mister_roboto: no prob sir :)
[07:07] <Stormx2> Oh wow the Firefox FTP client = YUMMY!!
[07:07] <damo21> Anyone get hibernation working on laptop?
[07:07] <iGad_BigDisk> adub: so I doubt that clock thing is going to do you any good then :(
[07:07] <adub> ouch biig diisk
[07:07] <Gunner112k> _jason: nothing
[07:07] <makaveli> whats a good CD burner for video files
[07:07] <_jason> Gunner112k: is this the first account you created during install?
[07:08] <mister_roboto> damo21: i can't get it to wake up properly on my Dell Inspiron 8200 w/ ATI
[07:08] <Gunner112k> yeah
[07:08] <adub> clock semms okk
[07:08] <_jason> Gunner112k: paste the output of the command 'groups'
[07:08] <speyer> _jason whats this evolution package for ? its really required ?
[07:08] <dyrne> makaveli: k3b for all burning needs
[07:08] <IdleOne> makaveli:  gnomebaker or k3b
[07:08] <mister_roboto> damo21: i've heard nvidia works better and that it might be related to the ati drivers
[07:08] <Gunner112k> "kevin"
[07:08] <Gunner112k> that's it
[07:08] <cyberic_s> does anybody know where the hell synaptic puts the httpd.conf file for apache2
[07:08] <_jason> speyer: I think parts of gnome depend on it, not sure.  It's a mail client
[07:08] <navarone> speyer evolution is a suite that includes calaendar email client etc
[07:08] <_jason> cyberic_s: /etc/apache2
[07:08] <damo21> mister_roboto, how unfortunate, im bidding on ebay for ibm x40 laptop now with ati mobility
[07:08] <speyer> so i can remove it right ?
[07:09] <ubuntu> looking for 686 iso anyone?
[07:09] <_jason> speyer: you can try and see how much stuff it will take with it
[07:09] <larson9999> Xenguy: thanks for the help but i installed nvidia the NV*run way so it's consistant with my other distros and i can upgrade without waiting for packages to be built.
[07:09] <Gunner112k> _jason: "kevin"
[07:09] <jdumont> just fyi... i burned the edubuntu iso from edubuntu last night and had problems.... burned it with nero and it was fine.
[07:09] <mister_roboto> damo21: it has never worked for me with ubuntu. suse used to work. might be able to get the power stuff working if i was willing to tak ethe time, but i'm too lazy
[07:09] <_jason> Gunner112k: well, that means you are not in the admin group
[07:09] <speyer> _jason it will also remove evolution-plugins and evolution-exchange
[07:09] <speyer> its that ok ?
[07:10] <_jason> Gunner112k: did you do an expert install by any chance?  and do you have access to root?
[07:10] <HappyFool> speyer: you can (though why?); it will also remove the ubuntu-desktop `meta-package' which you should reinstall before upgrading to the next version of ubuntu (6.04 or whatever)
[07:10] <adub> :(     noo   uuusb keeyyboaaard     att   x  siign ooonn   screen  eeveerrrryyyy is ffine ii   type  password fine
[07:10] <navarone> speyer are you planning on replacing it with another email client?
[07:10] <Gunner112k> _jason: I do have access to root
[07:10] <damo21> roboto: yeah i heard power management was a biartch to setup on ubuntu
[07:10] <_jason> Gunner112k: you created a password manually after the install?
[07:10] <Gunner112k> _jason: yeah
[07:10] <adub> pplease ssssomeone help :(
[07:10] <speyer> navarone temp. i dont need email client ,i use webbased email
[07:10] <_jason> Gunner112k: ok su to root and do 'adduser kevin admin'
[07:11] <ubuntu> anyone know ?
[07:11] <Gunner112k> done
[07:11] <Gunner112k> I'll see what happens
[07:11] <_jason> Gunner112k: 'sudo echo hi'
[07:11] <ubuntu> 686 install iso where to get?
[07:11] <navarone> speyer I see...well i don't see a prob...you can always reinstall later if things go pearshaped
[07:11] <HappyFool> ubuntu: i don't think there is one
[07:11] <speyer> navarone so evolution ; evolution-plugins and evolution-exchange can be removed ..
[07:11] <speyer> ok
[07:11] <Gunner112k> ok now the admin tools work
[07:11] <speyer> thanks
[07:11] <Gunner112k> thanks for the help _jason
[07:12] <_jason> Gunner112k: okay, you amy want to add yourself to the adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner  groups as well
[07:12] <_jason> Gunner112k: s/amy/may
[07:12] <abk> hey all
[07:12] <speyer> evolutiopn-data-server will remove almost all the gnome packages :)) , wont touch that
[07:12] <abk> something trickifying me:
[07:12] <gnomefreak> abk: yes evo and gnome go hand in hand and it sucks :(
[07:13] <navarone> abk then let us know what it is and maybe we can solutionify it for ya...<s>
[07:13] <adub> pplease ssssomeone help :(
[07:13] <ubuntu> guess there is not a 686 install iso
[07:13] <jtdgrz> i just installed ubuntu with the GRUB boot loader, as soon as i rebooted i got grub error 21
[07:13] <jtdgrz> anyone know whats wrong?
[07:13] <eighty4> ubuntu, the i386 install iso will work fine.
[07:13] <abk> I'm trying to build wine on a fresh Ubuntu install. when I run "apt-get --build source wine", it gives me an "error: C compiler cannot create executables".
[07:13] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: i dont think ther eis i think the 386 installer will set you up with 686 if its able to be run
[07:13] <navarone> abk did you install build-essential package?
[07:13] <damo21> Well, im using ubuntu successfully for low latency audio i/o... software synthesisers rock!
[07:14] <abk> is it in Synaptic?
[07:14] <navarone> abk yes should be
[07:14] <gnomefreak> abk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:14] <jtdgrz> anyone?
[07:14] <IdleOne> damo21:  how do I add shortcuts to desktop?
[07:14] <damo21> IdleOne: Xfce doesnt have icons on the desktop
[07:14] <jdumont> question:  after installing ubuntu/suse/novell etc for a dozen times this weekend I have noticed that the partitioning/formatting is 10 times faster than windows fdisk/format.  why is this?
[07:14] <cfh_dev> What's the name of the program that will remove packages and dependencies?  Starts with deb but all I can think of is deborphan
[07:14] <IdleOne> damo21:  that explains it
[07:14] <IdleOne> lol
[07:15] <abk> apt-get reports it's installed.
[07:15] <Gunner112k> _jason: is the "save configuration" option in the logoff  screen important for my user settings?
[07:15] <Mitja> Where are the local and regional settings in gnome'
[07:15] <Mitja> ?
[07:15] <damo21> IdleOne: you need to create a nice menusystem so u can rightclick on desktop and have everything u need there
[07:15] <gnomefreak> xfce sure does have icons you can find them in synaptic
[07:15] <adub> i have      been  running  ubunnntu   for months thiss   ssloow typing just start
[07:15] <navarone> cfh_dev, dpkg I think you want
[07:15] <larson9999> i always thought it was funny for a wm to have the desktop area but no way to put icons on it.  seems unnatural for me to have a clean desktop
[07:15] <_jason> Gunner112k: no, I think that just saves what programs you ahve open and then opens them up next time you login
[07:15] <gnomefreak> damo21: fluxbox :)
[07:15] <cfh_dev> navarone: It's a less low level than dpkg.  It cleans out packages based on dependencies
[07:15] <Gunner112k> ok
[07:15] <speyer> brb
[07:15] <Gunner112k> thanks for all
[07:16] <gnomefreak> damo21: i think xfce has that option in synaptic (extra package)
[07:16] <speyer> !xmms
[07:16] <ubotu> I guess xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:16] <jtdgrz> i just installed ubuntu with the GRUB boot loader, as soon as i rebooted i got grub error 21
[07:16] <jtdgrz> anyone have a solutiion?
[07:16] <Mitja> Where are the local and regional settings in gnome'
[07:16] <gnomefreak> damo21: i cant tell you right now because xfce is broken in dapper
[07:16] <damo21> gnomefreak: yes one day i will venture to fluxbox, but xfce works a charm in breezy
[07:16] <abk> the exact output of my "apt-get --build source wine" command: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:16] <brosioz> why eclipse depends of mozilla-browser ??
[07:17] <_jason> !xmms =~ s/Hoary/Hoary\ and\ Breezy
[07:17] <ubotu> _jason: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:17] <cyberic_s> heres a small problem, I cannot su
[07:17] <_jason> damn, that what I get for tryying to be like sevea s
[07:17] <cyberic_s> does not authenticate
[07:17] <IdleOne> cyberic_s:  use sudo
[07:17] <jdumont> im on a mac right now mitja... try clicking the clock or right clicking?
[07:17] <cyberic_s> ok
[07:17] <gnomefreak> brosioz: not sure but it was a pita about a month ago
[07:17] <cfh_dev> navarone: It's debfoster
[07:17] <ryanakca> how do you find the version number of a library/program in apt-cache? like, I'm searching for glib-2.4.8... would I go "apt-cache search glib-2.4.8"? or ???
[07:17] <Snake007uk> hey guys
[07:17] <K-Mandla> Hello out there in Ubuntuland
[07:18] <adub> URGENT:             My laptop key sensitivity goes out for  some reason from withiin X            <---- it took 5 minutes to type that
[07:18] <Snake007uk> I just followed the steps on xglhowto ubunti
[07:18] <_jason> ryanakca: apt-cache policy packagename will give you info on that
[07:18] <brosioz> gnomefreak: pita ??
[07:18] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: apt-cache policy package
[07:18] <brosioz> what means ?
[07:18] <ryanakca> kk
[07:18] <gnomefreak> pain in the a**
[07:18] <Prohibited> Hey, I have been trying to shut down "ProFTPD" by SSH, but "proftpd stop" won't work .. Nothing happens. How do I shut it down?
[07:18] <ryanakca> ty
[07:18] <HappyFool> abk: do you have gcc installed ? (try, e.g., gcc --version)
[07:18] <dreamwave> hello.  i've got an airlink mimo xr wifi card (rt2600 chip).  does anyone know if ubuntu supports this?
[07:18] <Snake007uk> my xgl server crashes, and gives an error about XIO: fatal io error on xserver :93.0
[07:18] <damo21> gnomefreak: im all for using ubuntu endorsed window managers, when they fix xfce4 in dapper, i'll be upgrading
[07:18] <eighty4> Snake007uk, no luck with xgl? i'm looking to give it a try too
[07:19] <nuxil> is there a tool to decompress rar files
[07:19] <gnomefreak> damo21: they are upgrading xfce to newest version not sure how long it will be
[07:19] <gnomefreak> nuxil: ofcourse
[07:19] <brosioz> pff
[07:19] <gnomefreak> !rar
[07:19] <HappyFool> !info unrar-nonfree
[07:19] <nuxil> what
[07:19] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:19] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[07:19] <speyer> brb
[07:19] <brosioz> i don't want it :
[07:19] <Snake007uk> eighty4 :(
[07:19] <damo21> gnomefreak: cool, i can wait
[07:20] <Snake007uk> guyz any idea ?? what the problem could be?
[07:20] <dyrne> jtdgrz: still having problem?
[07:20] <toote> Hello i have ubuntu installed on my old pc and i am running apache from it with php well i was wondering if i point a domain to my ip would that work and the domain dns to my ip?
[07:20] <adub> i have a  functonn key on my keeyyboooorrrrrd
[07:20] <ubuntu> anyone know if Verbatim blank CD's are any good quality?
[07:20] <ownerx> yes ubuntu
[07:20] <damo21> IdleOne: yes if it wasnt for xfce and ubuntu, i would be throwing out my P2 366MMX laptop
[07:20] <ubuntu> really
[07:20] <eighty4> ubuntu yeah they're pretty good.
[07:20] <gnomefreak> Snake007uk: /join #xgl-ubuntu  maybe they can help better
[07:21] <adub> _jason  gnomefreak   help pleasse :)
[07:21] <ubuntu> what is one worth?
[07:21] <ownerx> lol xgl has its own room now
[07:21] <navarone> Snake007uk, you can try #Xgl-ubuntu for advice
[07:21] <gnomefreak> adub: try rebooting?
[07:21] <_jason> adub: did you try a different OS and/or an external keyboard?
[07:21] <cyberic_s> anyway if I have a file open in gedit that is read-only to sudo it right from the editor
[07:21] <cyberic_s> i dont want to use a terminal editor to edit this file
[07:22] <cyberic_s> but it needs root
[07:22] <adub> yes reboooooooting tried
[07:22] <wastrel> cyberic_s:  you should open it with  sudo gedit filename
[07:22] <dyrne> cyberic_s: sudo gedit &
[07:22] <Snake007uk> gnomefreak, navarone thnx
[07:22] <damo21> IdleOne: if u REALLY want to see lightening speed, install fluxbox instead
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Snake007uk: just a note though xgl is not garentied to work and is still in its testing stages
[07:22] <_jason> cyberic_s: gksudo 'gedit file'
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Snake007uk: ye
[07:22] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:22] <ubuntu> what is one verbatim CD worth?
[07:22] <eugman> Hey anyone here use pygame and can explain to me everything i need to use it?
[07:22] <cyberic_s> ok
[07:22] <jtdgrz> thanks a lot i got it
[07:22] <cyberic_s> thanks guys
[07:22] <cyberix> Aaargh. I installed Kubuntu within my Ubuntu and now my pc tells me at boot I'm running Kubuntu.
[07:22] <Snake007uk> gnomefreak is nvidia riva tnt2
[07:22] <cyberic_s> done bugging for the moment
[07:22] <mike_123> i need help and im a linux noob
[07:22] <Snake007uk> supported by xgl
[07:22] <cyberix> What can I do?
[07:22] <IdleOne> damo21:  im gonna try this for a few days and see if I like it..then try fluxbox
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Snake007uk: i dont know i dont use it
[07:22] <_jason> mike_123: you are in the right place, just ask your question
[07:22] <navarone> ubuntu, if you are looking for data storage that you can keep a long time and has high standards for quality then Sony is best bet...but probably a bit more expensive
[07:22] <adub> i have windoows vmwared on here same    probleem
[07:23] <mike_123> !help
[07:23] <ubuntu> no no
[07:23] <_jason> adub: try booting windows
[07:23] <adub> i wil  rebooooott aggaaiiin  bbrbbb
[07:23] <gnomefreak> mike_123: if you dont tell us the problem we cant help you
[07:23] <ubuntu> juat want to know what verbatim is worth
[07:23] <_jason> adub: then you can tell it's probably not an ubuntu-specific problem
[07:23] <eighty4> to be honest there's only so much i'd trust any cd-rs
[07:23] <w000t> hi, can i get somehwere older ubuntu dapper packages?
[07:23] <damo21> IdleOne: but xfce is designed to work with ubuntu, things just magically happen for u
[07:23] <mike_123> ok how do i install programs and drivers on ubunutu
[07:23] <_jason> ubuntu: tell mike_123 about synaptic
[07:23] <w000t> i want the clearlooks cairo engine back, and newest version is an older
[07:23] <w000t> so i want to downgrade
[07:23] <damo21> IdleOne: fluxbox will be more challenging to configure
[07:24] <w000t> but cant' find the package
[07:24] <_jason> mike_123: ubotu told you about installing programs
[07:24] <gnomefreak> mike_123: need to tell us the full thing there are tons of drivers/programs
[07:24] <eighty4> ubuntu, try www.froogle.com to see how much verbatim cds are going for
[07:24] <ownerx> w000t just get it from gnomelook.org
[07:24] <IdleOne> damo21:  I love the splash screen..that lil mouse is cute and I like the cool silver screens too
[07:24] <damo21> heh
[07:24] <mike_123> ok i want my wireless broadcom 54g card driver to work
[07:24] <ubuntu> thx eighty4
[07:24] <Prohibited> How do I shut ProFTPD down?
[07:24] <mike_123> and Gaim
[07:24] <IdleOne> damo21:  dont take much to make me happy...a computer that loads apps in a few seconds and Im good to go
[07:24] <Prohibited> sudo proftpd stop doesn't work
[07:24] <_jason> mike_123: you have gaim already
[07:24] <gnomefreak> mike_123: gaim is installed by default
[07:24] <wastrel> IdleOne:  what splash screen?
[07:25] <gnomefreak> mike_123: click applications>internet>gaim
[07:25] <mike_123> how do i run it or use it
[07:25] <IdleOne> xfce mouse
[07:25] <w000t> i need the eninge
[07:25] <dyrne> Prohibited: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd stop  does that work?
[07:25] <w000t> not the styles
[07:25] <gnomefreak> as for broadcom i dont have a clue
[07:25] <IdleOne> !broadcom
[07:25] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[07:25] <ubotu> [broadcom]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[07:25] <mike_123> i got ndiswrapper
[07:25] <gnomefreak> ^^^ mike_123 for broadcom
[07:25] <damo21> IdleOne: yep there is a particular charm about xfce that makes it look industrial strength silver and sexy shiny
[07:25] <mike_123> but i have no idea how to run it
[07:26] <navarone> mike_123, I would think the wireless card would be first priority...<s>
[07:26] <Pablo_C> gah
[07:26] <IdleOne> damo21:  that explains the tingling feeling I got when I first logged in lol
[07:26] <mike_123> yes it is
[07:26] <gnomefreak> navarone: his card must work hes here
[07:26] <gnomefreak> :(
[07:26] <jdumont> ok...  i read up on freenx.  am i right in thinking that i can have freenx on 5 pc's and all 5 can access their account on the edubuntu server?
[07:26] <navarone> gnomefreak, he maybe on windows now...?
[07:26] <mike_123> how do i execute codes and commands
[07:26] <jsestri2> what do i apt-get in order to get myself gcc?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> windows whats that? sounds yucky :)
[07:27] <damo21> IdleOne: I got the same feeling, i thought i was logging into 007's Car terminal
[07:27] <IdleOne> hehe
[07:27] <mister_roboto> jsestri2: build-essential
[07:27] <navarone> gnomefreak, rumour is they require a lot of cleaning
[07:27] <gnomefreak> navarone: yeah see my wife doesnt do windows since divorce :(
[07:27] <jsestri2> mister_roboto: apt-get build-essential?
[07:27] <IdleOne> damo21:  you have no clue with default WM I could wait 2 minutes for Firefox to load up ;/
[07:27] <mister_roboto> jesetri2: apt-get install build-essential
[07:27] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:27] <damo21> IdleOne: I know exactly, i had a slow laptop
[07:28] <sovin> question: (Hey again gnome/everyone) I'm trying to install Skype. I found some instructions on the ubuntuforums relating to it. Among the instructions it requires I enter the command:
[07:28] <sovin> sudo alien -i skype*.rpm.  My problem is that 'alien' is not recognized. Is there something that I need to install/configure for it to be a recognized command?
[07:28] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: alright i need the sudo then? or run it as root?
[07:28] <guti_> wenas
[07:28] <damo21> IdleOne: Do you use the terminal a lot?
[07:28] <IdleOne> damo21:  yeah
[07:28] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: you need sudo to install it ther eis no running build-essential
[07:28] <navarone> sovin you need to install alien probably
[07:28] <jpjacobs> does an Asus DRW-1608P2 work on ubuntu?
[07:29] <jpjacobs> it's a dvdwriter...
[07:29] <mister_roboto> jsestri: sudo DOES run it as root :)
[07:29] <mike_123> my card doesnt work, im plugged into a LAN
[07:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sovin about skype
[07:29] <navarone> !alien
[07:29] <mister_roboto> jesetri: if you're using a root shell, you don't need the sudo
[07:29] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:29] <gnomefreak> mister_roboto: sudo installs it as root
[07:29] <mark_> here, can someone tell me how to install the 'mozilla plugin' thing for WINE after you try to install such things as winamp, because the method on the WineHQ site and the auto-download don't work
[07:29] <IdleOne> damo21:  I usualy just keep the terminal open cuase I know Im going to use it sooner or later
[07:29] <sovin> thanks gnome, navarone
[07:29] <adub> other os worrrk fiiiiine
[07:29] <Prohibited> I need to shutdown ProFTPD, can anyone help
[07:30] <gnomefreak> you can not run build-essential at all
[07:30] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: I know, that's what i'm saying.   sudo executes the process as effective uid 0  (root)
[07:30] <damo21> IdleOne: open a gnome-terminal -> Edit ->  Current profile and set the background to transparent and font to White on Black
[07:30] <mark_> here, can someone tell me how to install the 'mozilla plugin' thing for WINE after you try to install such things as winamp, because the method on the WineHQ site and the auto-download don't work
[07:30] <IdleOne> damo21:  how do I do that?
[07:30] <MrRio> Prohibited: /etc/init.d/proftpd stop ?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> mark_: im not so sure winamp runs with wine
[07:30] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: and if you're already running a root shell, you have no need for sudo
[07:30] <Prohibited> MrRio: I tried that already, "proftpd" Isn't even in /init.d/
[07:30] <gnomefreak> mister_roboto: right
[07:31] <MrRio> Prohibited: how did you install it?
[07:31] <antisocial_boris> is there any decent way to get realplayer working on an amd64 machine?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> i dont ever recommend running a root terminal
[07:31] <damo21> IdleOne: rightclick on desktop Run... "gnome-terminal"
[07:31] <Prohibited> Um apt-get install proftpd
[07:31] <MrRio> Prohibited, and your using breezy right?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell antisocial_boris about mplayer
[07:31] <Prohibited> Yeah
[07:31] <adub> gnomefreak or jason any recommendations?
[07:32] <IdleOne> damo21: ok
[07:32] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: not unless you know what you're doing :)   I find it handy if I need to do several things at once but I don't run that way either
[07:32] <jsestri2> does breezy 5.10 come with the kernel source?
[07:32] <Prohibited> My desktop isn't loaded though, I use it for a server and I just have a command prompt open on it.
[07:32] <mark_> gnomefreak, can you reccomend a player or something that I can play WMV files etc on?
[07:32] <Linux_Kong> sovin: why can't you use the deb package of skype packaged for ubuntu?
[07:32] <MrRio> Prohibited: so if you copy and paste this into a terminal:    /etc/init.d/proftpd stop
[07:32] <abk> VNC
[07:32] <MrRio> Prohibited, what do you get
[07:32] <gnomefreak> mark_: mplayer with w32codecs
[07:32] <gnomefreak> or vlc
[07:32] <_jason> adub: nope, sorry don't really know... gnomefreak, will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg regenerate the xorg.conf file from scratch?
[07:32] <Prohibited> "No such file or directory"
[07:32] <IdleOne> damo21:  next step/command?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> i think the main thing there is the w32codecs not so much the player
[07:33] <Snake007uk> here is the output of the error i am getting
[07:33] <Snake007uk> http://pastebin.com/563019
[07:33] <dyrne> ubotu: tell mark_ about w32codecs
[07:33] <damo21> IdleOne: Edit ->  Current profile and set the background to transparent and font to White on Black
[07:33] <sovin> linux_kong: Referencing from the ubuntu wiki, "The .deb package provided by Skype on their download site is broken and does not work on Ubuntu. (The package is dependent upon the library libqt3c102-mt, which does not exist.)"
[07:33] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, i had to use that command of times already
[07:33] <iceman_> !codex
[07:33] <ubotu> iceman_: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:33] <gnomefreak> sovin: Seveas has a package that fixed that problem
[07:34] <Linux_Kong> sovin: oh, well thats a good reason ;)
[07:34] <MrRio> Prohibited: ok, if you just want to stop it, i suppose you could kill it off in apps > system tools > system monitor
[07:34] <iceman_> i got to admit the uboto bot is cool ...
[07:34] <OmegaAlpha> couple of times*
[07:34] <sovin> I'm trying to find the easiest/simplest way to get it up now.
[07:34] <snoozix> !codecs
[07:34] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[07:34] <navarone> Snake007uk, are you using ubuntu?
[07:34] <MrRio> Prohibited, although im not sure how it got started in the first place if its not in init.d
[07:34] <K-Mandla> Is there an Xubuntu-desktop package for Hoary? I've tried "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" and I come up empty.
[07:34] <snoozix> !easysourve
[07:34] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, snoozix
[07:34] <snoozix> !easysource
[07:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:35] <sovin> argh, i'll need alien after all
[07:35] <Snake007uk> navarone yes
[07:35] <Snake007uk> navarone why ?
[07:35] <Prohibited> Yeah, but I don't have my desktop loaded - when  load it, lags my servers badly (and it will shut them down and I don't wanna piss my chatters off lol.) I started it with "sudo proftpd" -- That's how it got started.
[07:35] <sovin> !alien
[07:35] <ubotu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:35] <jroes> anyone using dapper drake?  when you first set it up, does Rhythmbox give you an error when you supply a library?
[07:35] <gnomefreak> sovin: as i told you yesterday you can get it from Seveas repo/site
[07:35] <navarone> Snake007uk, why does it say os is Linux kynet?
[07:35] <IdleOne> damo21:  ok done
[07:35] <navarone> skynet
[07:35] <gnomefreak> jroes: no
[07:35] <IdleOne> damo21:  i dont see any change
[07:35] <pianoboy3333> Any one know a good place to get console fonts?
[07:35] <jroes> it tells me none of my files are valid streams...
[07:35] <sala> ad
[07:35] <Linux_Kong> gnomefreak: i do, and not that i can remember
[07:36] <MrRio> Prohibited: killall proftpd
[07:36] <MisterN> re
[07:36] <IdleOne> damo21:  i see the change now hehe
[07:36] <Snake007uk> navarone hostname i changed to skynet
[07:36] <Prohibited> That did it. Thanks :-)
[07:36] <damo21> IdleOne: hehe
[07:36] <IdleOne> damo21:  thats cool
[07:37] <navarone> Snake007uk, ahh
[07:37] <damo21> IdleOne: Its the closest u get to having translucencies without 3d support
[07:37] <adamm> !pastebin
[07:37] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:37] <omerix> how can we ad user in console
[07:37] <Seveas> omerix, sudo adduser
[07:37] <adub> that  didnt worrkk
[07:37] <IdleOne> damo21:  this box was built before 3d was I doubt Ill ever have that on here lol
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Seveas: you still have the packaged .deb for skype dont you?
[07:38] <claes> jroes: Just imported a folder in rhythmbox but no error or any other messages.
[07:38] <Seveas> gnomefreak, of course
[07:38] <gnomefreak> thats what i thought but he dont listen :(
[07:38] <damo21> IdleOne: did u know about Ctrl-Alt-F1 up to F8?  F7 gets u back to here
[07:38] <Seveas> gnomefreak, that's the problem with users, they never listen 
[07:39] <gnomefreak> lol :) good point
[07:39] <IdleOne> damo21:  hehe no I didnt
[07:39] <crouchingMonkey> ive just added a 512MB memory stick to my desktop and i got a crc error
[07:39] <tortoise> does anyone know how to launch ubuntu setup from dos? what the command is?
[07:39] <crouchingMonkey> ubuntu will not load ne more
[07:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> abiword is very good
[07:39] <navarone> tortoise you cannot setup ubuntu from dos
[07:39] <jdumont> crouchin... there is a memory tester on the install cd
[07:39] <damo21> IdleOne: there u go, 4 terminal logins on top of your xfce workspaces
[07:40] <crouchingMonkey> hmm
[07:40] <crouchingMonkey> how do i access it ?
[07:40] <mark_> it says libdvdcss2 is missing, and i need it to install my player
[07:40] <MrRio> Seveas, heh, i like that smile 
[07:40] <cppnewbie> hey i was here earlier, anyone that can help me set up the nvidia drivers and the nforce chipset thing? i encounter a problem while trying to put it
[07:40] <jdumont> it's on the menu
[07:40] <tortoise> navarone, Oh, i have a tablet pc that has usb cdrom, i managed to get it running and seeing the cd, but am stuck now
[07:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell mark_ about dvd
[07:40] <gnomefreak> mark_: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss with or without the 2 what ever one works
[07:41] <Seveas> !forget may be
[07:41] <ubotu> i forgot may be, Seveas
[07:41] <damo21> IdleOne: wow, i meant 6
[07:41] <navarone> tortoise you need to be able to boot from cd install disc I am not sure if you can with usb drive
[07:41] <crouchingMonkey> jdumont: i am willing to bet the memory is fine scince i switched the slots and it works
[07:41] <Seveas> !forget psi-jack
[07:41] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot psi-jack
[07:41] <jdumont> "bet"  is not in my vocabulary.
[07:41] <cppnewbie> i input sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run just as the run file is but what happens is that it tells me that nvidia-installer needs root or something. wazza mean?
[07:41] <quack> i need a beer
[07:41] <crouchingMonkey> its just that when i add a memory stick into the second slot of my mobo that gets my sys going crazy
[07:41] <dyrne> tortoise: another option would be debian install floppys then dist-upgrade to ubuntu
[07:41] <meta> currently on 6.04 alpha liveCD, I like it a lot people, good work
[07:42] <fernando_> hi
[07:42] <HappyFool> jdumont: i bet it is!
[07:42] <jdumont> ;)
[07:42] <cppnewbie> lol
[07:42] <adamm> Hello everyone. I can not get my external HFS+ firewire drive to show up. I dont know what else to do. this pastebin has the output from dmesg.http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8891 does anyone have an idea?
[07:42] <fernando_> I'm now in my first time by Ubuntu 5.10
[07:42] <tortoise> dyrne, would debian sarge disk work?
[07:42] <quack> i'll try anything if it's free
[07:42] <crouchingMonkey> damn, it must be the mobo then :(
[07:42] <jdumont> crouchin... try swapping the ram into different slots
[07:43] <fernando_> i've just finish to connect by ubuntu
[07:43] <crouchingMonkey> jdumont i did and it works
 how can edit users?
[07:43] <tortoise> dyrne, would i have to install the whole debian?
[07:43] <fernando_> it's very difficult
[07:43] <fernando_> i'll uninstall
[07:43] <_6ix_> Why difficult?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> fernando_: what is difficult?
[07:44] <damo21> gnomefreak: why dont u have it
[07:44] <gnomefreak> damo21: noone on dapper has it
[07:44] <fernando_> becouse a part pf it is in english and I do not compreend
[07:44] <dyrne> tortoise: to be honest i only did it once with ubuntu warty not sure..
[07:44] <_jason> fernando_: what language do you prefer?
[07:44] <tortoise> dyrne, ok, thanks
[07:44] <fernando_> english
[07:44] <dyrne> tortoise: but it would just be base debian
[07:44] <fernando_> i prefer portuguese
[07:44] <navarone> !br
[07:44] <fernando_> brazilian
[07:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:44] <damo21> gnomefreak: awww sucks for you... im on 5.10 :D
[07:44] <fernando_> I'm in Sao Paulo
[07:45] <gnomefreak> its in english and you dont understand it but you perfer english?
[07:45] <gnomefreak> !es
[07:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:45] <fernando_> i change the language but
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ^^ maybe help you?
[07:45] <_jason> fernando_: tu podes usar portugues, vai a #ubuntu-br.  Muitos brazileiros la para te ajudar
[07:45] <gnomefreak> or br
[07:45] <fernando_> just a few of sistem is in portuguese realy
[07:45] <tortoise> dyrne, if i use deb install floppies, then i have an option visible to dist-upgrade to ubuntu?
[07:45] <speyer> hmm why the sound doesnt work in xmms ? i did change the output sound to esound and still :( any ideea ?
[07:45] <fernando_> a lot of people say me
[07:45] <flodine> anyone on 64bit who can help with nvidia drivers
[07:45] <adamm> can anyone help me with a disk mounting issue?
[07:45] <fernando_> ubuntu is the best linux for initial users
[07:46] <_jason> !anyone
[07:46] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[07:46] <fernando_> linux users
[07:46] <_6ix_> Shouldnt it be "tu puedes"?  Or did my spanish teacher lie to me
[07:46] <cppnewbie> how do i use a .run file as root?
[07:46] <dyrne> tortoise: basically..and youll want to google to be sure but you edit the sources.list file to a ubuntu one then dist-upgrade
[07:46] <fernando_> to connect by adsl
[07:46] <_jason> cppnewbie: what file?
[07:46] <speyer> !sound
[07:46] <ubotu> hmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:46] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: sh file.run
[07:46] <fernando_> it was complicate
[07:46] <_jason> fernando_: don't use enter as punctuation please
[07:46] <tortoise> dyrne, i see, i will research it, thanks!
[07:46] <iceman> holp, just installed the nvidia driver, now when i log out i get taken to a text prompt, not the gdm / kdm session sellect screen
[07:46] <flodine> come on someones got to be on 64 bit
[07:46] <cppnewbie> gnomefreak i did that but it still tells me to run it on root
[07:46] <fernando_> i think about others things
[07:46] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: what run file wants you to run as root?
[07:47] <fernando_> it's vary bad
[07:47] <Mordof> cafuego, you there?
[07:47] <_jason> fernando_: escreve isto para falar com mais brazileiros: /join #ubuntu-br
[07:47] <cppnewbie> its the nforce drivers and the nvidia graphics card gnomefreak
[07:47] <iceman> help . . . just installed the nvidia driver, now when i log out i get taken to a text prompt, not the gdm / kdm session sellect screen
[07:47] <fernando_> becouse in brazil we use a lot o windows whitout pay for
[07:47] <flodine> is there a 64 bit room for ubuntu
[07:47] <iceman> how to reactivate the gdm config's
[07:47] <Mordof> iceman, does it say your X fails?
[07:47] <_jason> iceman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:47] <iceman> Mordof no,
[07:47] <fernando_> i want to go out windows
[07:47] <jdumont> is freenx just another vnc or is it like a terminal server client?  i need to have 5 pc's log into the server and run apps... just like nt terminal server.  thx
[07:47] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: you can try sudo shfile.run or sudo -i than type sh file.run but i have  never seen a run file need root
[07:48] <adamm> I can not get my HFS+ drive to mount.  in the Disks Manager, the drive shows up, but none of the partions are listed
[07:48] <fernando_> but it's very friendly sistem
[07:48] <damo21> fernando, everyone does that too
[07:48] <cppnewbie> well thats what it tells me. it also tells me in the help file that root access has been blocked due to security reasons :p
[07:48] <fernando_> damo, really?
[07:48] <iceman> brb see if that worked ... thanks _jason
[07:48] <SirKillalot> how do I start gnome with "startx"?
[07:48] <gnomefreak> everything you can do in windows you can do in linux some with lil more work but can be done
[07:48] <damo21> fernando, of course, piracy is everywhere not just brazil
[07:48] <Mordof> SirKillalot, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:49] <gnomefreak> SirKillalot: what is your default kdm or gdm?
[07:49] <fernando_> ok
[07:49] <SirKillalot> gnomefreak, kdm
[07:49] <adamm> has anyone been reading my questions?
[07:49] <OmegaAlpha> is there a way to get a list of apps recently downloaded/installed thru terminal?
[07:49] <SirKillalot> I have several problems with gnome
[07:49] <fernando_> but its not the best form
[07:49] <HappyFool> fernando_: i encourage you to add portuguese ADSL documentation to the wiki, then (for example, look here:     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrazilianDocumentation   )
[07:49] <gnomefreak> ahhhh yes than do it as Mordof said
[07:49] <SirKillalot> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133058
[07:49] <ericwl> Hi, I ran into a problem installing Ubuntu. I'm installing off the Ubuntu disc, v. 5.10, and the installing program keeps freezing when at 52% when setting up the partitioner. Any suggestions?
[07:49] <SirKillalot> if you would be so kind :-/
[07:49] <speyer> can anyone please help me enabling sound in ubuntu ?
[07:49] <iceman> _jason still, not fixed, it still takes me to a text screen, no gdm / kdm sellecr login screen ...
[07:49] <cppnewbie> so gnomefreak what's that thing that i need to do? it tells me that root access is blocked due to security reasons
[07:49] <adamm> I can not get my HFS+ drive to mount.  in the Disks Manager, the drive shows up, but none of the partions are listed
[07:49] <gnomefreak> ericwl: re burn it :(
[07:50] <_jason> iceman: are you getting error
[07:50] <jdumont> i delete the partition ericwl
[07:50] <navarone> speyer  has sound worked at all on the system?
[07:50] <damo21> fernando, YOU can help make it better for other brazilians, you can make the translations
[07:50] <ericwl> ah, I was running it off of one of Ubuntu
[07:50] <ericwl> 's
[07:50] <ericwl>  pressed CDS
[07:50] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: find the person with access to sudo
[07:50] <fernando_> happy, its dont work. the ling
[07:50] <fernando_> link
[07:50] <iceman> _jason no errors, but no session select screen, to get x up i got to type startx ...
[07:50] <cppnewbie> how do i do that one gnomefreak ?
[07:50] <IdleOne> ubuntu is like a gift from the Unix Gods but better because its from the people ()
[07:50] <Mordof> has anyone gotten halo to work in wine?
[07:50] <speyer> navarone no , in other linux system yes like debian :)
[07:51] <gnomefreak> ericwl: not all the cds that are shipped are gonna be good try another cd if fails in same place than i dont think its cd
[07:51] <fernando_> I copy the link and paste in my browse
[07:51] <HappyFool> fernando_:           https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrazilianDocumentation
[07:51] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: who installed ubuntu on that pc?
[07:51] <damo21> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrazilianDocumentation
[07:51] <navarone> speyer in terminal try alsamixer and see if sources volume are muted
[07:51] <speyer> navarone i did chnage the output sound tu esound ( ctrl+p and select libesdout.so as the output plugin and click apply. )
[07:51] <cppnewbie> gnomefreak: i did just now
[07:51] <fernando_> but it says could not be found
[07:51] <ericwl> right. I tried another cd, sale failure. If I have a physical problem with my hard drive, could that be doing it?
[07:51] <Dommel> if I run WoW using OpenGl, am i right in thinking it shouldn't matter if i run it using Wine or Cedega? performance wise it should not matter, cause openGl is OpenGl
[07:51] <damo21> fernando, its a problem with your browser not the website
[07:52] <iceman> _jason no errors, just a dos type command promt if i log out ...
[07:52] <damo21> i just opened it it works
[07:52] <Mordof> Dommel, WoW should work great in wine with OpenGL if it is anything like warcraft 3
[07:52] <ericwl> sale = same failure
[07:52] <speyer> navarone it was :)
[07:52] <SirKillalot> how do I start gnome with "startx"?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: is there something im missing? you have sudo priveldges but cant run sudo -i?
[07:52] <navarone> speyer you have sound now?
[07:52] <Mordof> Dommel, i run War3 in wine 1600x1200 32 bit everything cranked with opengl
[07:52] <fernando_> we have in Brazil, Sao Paulo a (major in town, but when the major is women??)
[07:52] <cppnewbie> well lemme try again.
[07:52] <fernando_> Marta Suplicy
[07:52] <pianoboy3333> Seveas: what would the command be to open a terminal that has a different profile other than the default?
[07:52] <Mordof> Dommel, but if i run it not in opengl, max i can run is 1024x768x16 medium graphi
[07:52] <cppnewbie> brb btw g2g for a while, if i still dont manage it.. w/e
[07:52] <speyer> navarone yes :)) how do i make alsa mixer gui to show me all the channels ?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> SirKillalot: only way to do that is make gdm default other wise you need to start it as Mordof said up there ^^^
[07:52] <_jason> iceman: don't know then...
[07:52] <Dommel> Mordof, that's what i thought, it's OpenGl so why bother with Cedega at all
[07:53] <speyer> navarone preff. thanks man
[07:53] <SirKillalot> gnomefreak, but then I dont get any error messages of gnome...
[07:53] <SirKillalot> I can start gnome
[07:53] <Mordof> Dommel, if it works, you dont need cedega... tough i need cedega and dont know how to get it working
[07:53] <gnomefreak> SirKillalot: you want errors?
[07:53] <SirKillalot> but It doesnt work, the reason why I want to do it with startx is that I get the messages from gnome then
[07:53] <SirKillalot> yes!
[07:53] <pianoboy3333> What would the command be to open a terminal that has a different profile other than the default?
[07:53] <Mordof> SirKillalot, check logs
[07:53] <navarone> speyer use arrow keys near keypad to move between sources and up/down arrows to raise/lower
[07:53] <SirKillalot> Well, I want error messages
[07:53] <SirKillalot> Mordof, called?
[07:53] <jdumont> well guess i'll just have to wing the freenx ..... not getting anything done here.  thanks for the freenx tip.
[07:53] <gnomefreak> we fix errors here not make them :(
[07:53] <Mordof> SirKillalot, dont know, but everything gives logs :P
[07:53] <speyer> navarone  found ,, thank you
[07:53] <fernando_> She makes a revolution
[07:53] <navarone> no prob
[07:54] <SirKillalot> gnomefreak, I want to spot errors :O
[07:54] <_jason> pianoboy3333: try 'man gnome-terminal'
[07:54] <fernando_> but she losts the reelection
[07:54] <speyer> navarone  ubuntu rocks man :) basic a debian made easy isnt it ?
[07:54] <ericwl> well, thanks anyway people
[07:54] <fernando_> the new major
[07:54] <Mordof> Dommel, do you know how to install cedega?
[07:54] <navarone> speyer...is best distro I have tried
[07:54] <fernando_> will cancel her project
[07:54] <Dommel> Mordof, no, haven't tried it
[07:54] <dyrne> well its no gentoo...
[07:54] <johndarkhorse> adamm: did you get sorted?
[07:55] <wastrel> hello
[07:55] <Mordof> Dommel, i have a feeling even though i have the install files, that i need to register to get it working
[07:55] <adamm> nope cant get it
[07:55] <iceman> brb
[07:55] <Dommel> Mordof, yup, you need a key which you get by subscribing to their service
[07:55] <johndarkhorse> adamm: care to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic for your question?
[07:55] <maria> is there a way i can upgrade to dapper drake flight 4 from 5.10 ?
[07:55] <fernando_> now I am writtinh here, but e cant surf on internet
[07:55] <pianoboy3333> _jason: sooooo...... you can't
[07:55] <johndarkhorse> maria: yes, use apt.
[07:55] <_jason> pianoboy3333: ?
[07:55] <Mordof> Dommel, ah i see
[07:55] <pianoboy3333> _jason: it's not there
[07:55] <fernando_> i do not know what happened
[07:56] <maria> johndarkhorse: apt-get install xxx ?
[07:56] <Mordof> Dommel, problem is.. i plan on subscribing, but i dont have money right now, and i wanna play my games! lol
[07:56] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell maria about breezy
[07:56] <_jason> pianoboy3333: I see profile all over the man page
[07:56] <speyer> navarone yeah , i had them all too , i start with redhat 7 then when fedora was out i start with fedora untill fedora 4 , then i switch to gentoo which is too slow, the ports are ok but too slow . with debian i have couple or bugs with the xorg server , ubuntu just rocks :) ports also big
[07:56] <wastrel> i <3 masqmail
[07:56] <pianoboy3333> _jason: cause if I opened it from an icon, either there would be another tab w/ the profile I wanted or a new window with the profile I wanted
[07:56] <Dommel> Mordof, there are 'other' ways to get it though, if you want to try. i also seem to remember they have a 7 day trail thing atm? so you can try and then if everything works, buy
[07:56] <lampshade> Anyone happen to configure a logitech 310 mx mouse on Ubuntu before?  It was working almost completely, then I installed the ATI drivers and in the process I reconfigured xorg too much and it killed my mouse.  Anyone have a nice guide to get all the wacky buttons and such working on Ubuntu with it?
[07:56] <pianoboy3333> _jason: actually read those spots
[07:56] <johndarkhorse> maria: substitude 'dapper' for 'breezy' and be warned: dapper is not ready for prime time as a production system
[07:56] <_jason> pianoboy3333: what do you /want/ to do?
[07:56] <fernando_> ?
[07:57] <Mordof> Dommel, do they? i would love to do that.. i dont really want to get it wrongly.. even a 7 day trial will show me that its what i want, do you know where it is?
[07:57] <maria> johndarkhorse: thanks!
[07:57] <claes> ubotu: tell claes about dapper
[07:57] <fernando_>  ?
[07:57] <pianoboy3333> _jason: have a icon on my desktop that when clicked on, opens my matrix terminal profile
[07:57] <Dommel> Mordof, yup, just check the main page, there's a link to a time demo
[07:57] <mister_roboto> What is the easiest way to upgrade breezy to dapper? can i just "s/breezy/dapper/g" in my sources.list?
[07:57] <pianoboy3333> _jason: the matrix one is not my default
[07:57] <_jason> pianoboy3333: --window-with-profile doesn't work?
[07:57] <navarone> speyer...i used Caldera and mandrake versions...mandrake hosed my partition table once after urpmi update...and I left linux until ubuntu
[07:58] <Dommel> Mordof, The Time Demo allows Linux users to see the power of Cedega with their favorite Triple A games. The Time Demo is a fully functional version of Cedega that works for 14 days.
[07:58] <pianoboy3333> _jason: no, cause first it opens a default and then another with the matrix profile
[07:58] <pianoboy3333> _jason: which is two terminals
[07:58] <Mordof> Dommel, someone just got me a link, tyvm
[07:59] <_jason> pianoboy3333: oh I see
[07:59] <pianoboy3333> _jason: so I don't think you can
[07:59] <meta> adamm, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=6e5f72f21147297b225b7ea2baab4959&t=123785
[07:59] <speyer> navarone i had mandrake once and i didnt like it to cheap :)) gentoo rosk but it opnly use source install which takes to long , to install kde desktop i was waiting  about 2 hours
[07:59] <pianoboy3333> _jason: it's stupid that they don't put a command like that in
[07:59] <navarone> speyer I prefer gnome to kde anyway...kde is a bit cluttered for my taste
[07:59] <speyer> !mplayer
[07:59] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:00] <speyer> navarone i use gnome in ubuntu too
[08:00] <adub> my keyboard is slow i have   to press hard on my keys in order to type??????????
[08:00] <mister_roboto> What is the easiest way to upgrade breezy to dapper? can i just "s/breezy/dapper/g" in my sources.list?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> adub: try another keyboard
[08:00] <navarone> speyer I am using xfce atm...it is quite nice
[08:00] <adamm> meta, thanks ill check that out
[08:00] <MisterN> mister_roboto: yes it worked almost nicely for me. ALMOST
[08:00] <gnomefreak> mister_roboto: whats the rush to upgrade to dapper
[08:00] <gnomefreak> your rushing to a release that is broken :(
[08:00] <adub>  i dooonnnt   owwwnnn  a ussb keyybbooaadd    thiissss   iss  aa laaptttpp
[08:00] <speyer> navarone on all other system i had i was using kde , because in gentoo you dont have to install the whole package depends .. like kde-multimedia :) you can install just kdmix or whatever
[08:01] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: i wanna play with it. running it in a VM anyway. already have another VM with breezy
[08:01] <pianoboy3333> mister_roboto: but remember, dapper can, and most likely will screw you up with problems since it is still under devel, just wait until april
[08:01] <wastrel> pianoboy3333:  is there a bash command you could use to change the terminal profile?  then you could use the --execute flag
[08:01] <mister_roboto> guys, i don't care if it doesn't fully work. i'm just playing in a VM and want to have a look
[08:01] <pianoboy3333> wastrel: I don't think so.....
[08:01] <Dommel> i've been running dapper without too much probs since flight 1 though
[08:01] <_jason> pianoboy3333: I just tried and it worked
[08:01] <gnomefreak> Dommel: install screem or xubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <pianoboy3333> _jason: what was that?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> ;) just to name a few
[08:02] <navarone> speyer I have gotten the impression that gentoo is for folks who like to finetune and quibble...I prefer a nice easy to use solution with minimal probs
[08:02] <pianoboy3333> _jason: send it over
[08:02] <mister_roboto> pianoboy3333: so if it's totally hosed, i just delete the VM files, no biggie
[08:02] <_jason> pianoboy3333: gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=testing, opens a new window with a single terminal set to the testing profile
[08:02] <shawn_home> Do we have Gvidcap for Ubuntu?
[08:02] <shawn_home> i want to record my desktop session
[08:02] <pianoboy3333> _jason: but if you put that in an icon on the desktop, you end up with two terms rite
[08:03] <pianoboy3333> ?
[08:03] <gnomefreak> !info gvidcap
[08:03] <_jason> pianoboy3333: nope
[08:03] <gnomefreak> dont knoow
[08:03] <shawn_home> !info gvidcap
[08:03] <shawn_home> nothing
[08:03] <Mordof> pianoboy3333, it runs the first as a command.. it doesnt open a terminal
[08:03] <gnomefreak> shawn_home: i know i was checking for you
[08:03] <gnomefreak> shawn_home: try packages.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to reinstall win XP on my hda1 , whitout interfering with ubuntu on my main HD ?
[08:04] <shawn_home> http://kambing.vlsm.org/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/source/Sources.gz
[08:04] <navarone> opera opens waay faster in xfce than gnome
[08:04] <shawn_home> its 'listed'
[08:04] <ut319> hey channel
[08:04] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X: its gonna screw up grub
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> will it totally fuck up 'GRUB' or something ?
[08:04] <pianoboy3333> _jason: thx
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> yea :\
[08:04] <ut319> whats ubuntu?
[08:04] <Mordof> ut319, hi
[08:04] <wastrel> pianoboy3333:  are you checking the "run in terminal" box in the launcher?
[08:04] <shawn_home> pool/multiverse/x/xvidcap
[08:04] <_jason> !ubuntu
[08:04] <adub> my keyboard is slow i have   to press hard on my keys in order to type??????????
[08:04] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[08:04] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X: its fairly easy to fix tho
[08:04] <pianoboy3333> wastrel: I'm good
[08:04] <gnomefreak> adub: again did you try a different keyboard?
[08:05] <larson9999> B_166-ER-X: change your bios so the hd you want to put windows on boots, then install windows like normal, then switch you bios back so the hd with linux on it boots first
[08:05] <ut319> thx
[08:05] <B_166-ER-X> gnomefreak , My XP partition is scrapped, i have to reinstall... bue i dont want to format my 2 HD for that.
[08:05] <ut319> ubuntu?
[08:05] <ut319> *tries to pronounce
[08:05] <_jason> !pronounce
[08:05] <ubotu> I guess pronounce is how to pronounce 'ubuntu': "oo-BOON-too".  See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation for details.
[08:05] <pianoboy3333> _jason: would you also happen to know if you had 3 terminals open, how send actions from one to the other two?
[08:05] <ut319> damn
[08:05] <ut319> lol
[08:05] <Mordof> BOON? i thought it was oo bun too
[08:05] <omerix> now i'm in Gdm, gnome desktop manager, i couldn't login as a user. i added another user, i haven't logined in yet, plesase help me
[08:05] <B_166-ER-X> gnomefreak,  will what larson9999 said work ?
[08:05] <cppnewbie> unfortunately here i am again gnomefreak :D
[08:05] <navarone> B_166-ER-X, maybe put grub on floppy for booting after windows reinstall...at least you can easily access ubuntu again
[08:05] <_jason> pianoboy3333: nope
[08:05] <pianoboy3333> ok
[08:05] <ut319> !hello
[08:05] <ubotu> Hi, ut319!
[08:05] <pianoboy3333> ummm
[08:05] <ut319> lol
[08:06] <gnomefreak> B_166-ER-X: i would hope so since he said it but i dont know never tried it
[08:06] <ut319> damn
[08:06] <ut319> what doesnt ubotu do?
[08:06] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[08:06] <Mordof> cppnewbie, lol, why do you need some help?
[08:06] <adub> gnomefreak its not that keyboard was working fine       on X login screen it works fine
[08:06] <pianoboy3333> How do you, if you had 3 terminals open, send actions from one to the other two?
[08:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell ut319 about yourself
[08:06] <ut319> !What dont you do
[08:06] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ut319
[08:06] <iceman> ok, help please, now i get errors and cannot boot gnome or kde .. have to use the live cd to get here ...
[08:06] <cppnewbie> well im trying to run a .run file in root and it didnt work
[08:06] <adub> after login it doesnnt
[08:06] <cppnewbie> now that it works heres an error
[08:06] <B_166-ER-X> like, know i have XP + ubuntu, GRUB is on what partition ?
[08:06] <fangorious> anyone just get a network-manager update in dapper and loose nm-applet?
[08:06] <ut319> O_O
[08:06] <rukuartic> Anyone have tips for running xampp? mysqld doesn't want to start...
[08:06] <B_166-ER-X> 2 hd
[08:06] <Mordof> iceman, you could always just type irc in the cli to get here.... whats the problem?
[08:06] <rukuartic> B_166-ER-X, its on the partition you installed linux on
[08:06] <picatta> wich pin should I use for my bluetooth mobile?
[08:06] <cppnewbie> Unable to find the system utility ld. please make sure you have the package binutils installed.
[08:06] <adub> this is crap :(
[08:06] <larson9999> B_166-ER-X: of course it will, i've been doing that for 8 years.  that way, the windows boot loader is on it's own hd and then the linux is on the the linux.  they won't get confused.  and in the futer if you get rid of either hd, the one that's left will be able to boot with no problems.
[08:07] <iceman> i installed the Nvidia drivers, and lost a session login options choice ...
[08:07] <_jason> cppnewbie: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:07] <cppnewbie> _jason theres a prob with this one
[08:07] <iceman> I rebooted, now no x at all
[08:07] <cppnewbie> my router doesnt work :'(
[08:07] <_jason> cppnewbie: install it from the cd
[08:07] <pianoboy3333> Seveas: How do you, if you had 3 terminals open, send actions from one to the other two?
[08:07] <cppnewbie> how do i do that one _jason?
[08:07] <navarone> iceman does startx in terminal give you desktop?
[08:07] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, not
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> larson9999 but my GRUB will be scrapped anyway no ?
[08:08] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, or maybe using screen
[08:08] <Seveas> sending messages is easier, but commands not
[08:08] <rukuartic> Anyone in here have experience with XAMPP?
[08:08] <_jason> heh I did 'man not'
[08:08] <iceman> navarone no... tries to start, the a 104 error ...
[08:08] <jsestri2> has anyone dealt with this bug before: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/21256
[08:08] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[08:08] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:08] <cppnewbie> eh _jason what do i do to install that build-essential
[08:08] <_jason> cppnewbie: put the cd in, start synaptic, edit > add cdrom, install build-essential
[08:08] <jsestri2> or could anyone help me get that fix done?
[08:08] <cppnewbie> ah
[08:08] <dop182> hello for all
[08:08] <robertj> You want the LiveCD to test out Ubuntu Express right?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: if you got that off launchpads bug section im sure others have had the same
[08:09] <cppnewbie> which other packages are needed?
[08:09] <iceman> let me get a cli irc up ... so we can avoid the cd / harddrive configs
[08:09] <larson9999> B_166-ER-X: no, because you're changing the hd that boots first and when you install windows, it will put the it's boot loader on the hd that windows is on, NOT the one that linux is on.  and then you switch the bios back so the linux hd boots first, you'll have the linux boot loader just the way it was.
[08:09] <Mordof> iceman, did you check to see if the other synaptic nvidia drivers were loaded?
[08:09] <aithnea> There is an Ubuntu express?
[08:09] <iceman> i can just type irc from command line and get here
[08:09] <Mordof> iceman, i had the same problem... turns out i had a conflict in drivers
[08:09] <Cryptid> I have a nvidia XFX Geforce 6600 Graphic card where do i get its appropriate Drivers from????
[08:09] <iceman> brb
[08:09] <Mordof> Cryptid, nvidia.com
[08:09] <ut319> Does anyone here have AoE II?
[08:09] <larson9999> B_166-ER-X: like i said if you want to be really sure, just disconnect the linux drive while you're installing windows
[08:09] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: i'm mostly just a little confused as to what the proper fix is, there appears to be a kernel rebuild, could you take a look and see if thats really what i should do?
[08:09] <ut319> dammit ubotu
[08:10] <speyer> why in ubuntu mplayer doesnt play video files in full screen mode by default . not even by pressing " f " , the video image its still small , do i have to edit the mplayer.conf or its because the vo driver ?
[08:10] <ut319> youre right :(
[08:10] <cppnewbie> which other packages are needed? anyone? :D
[08:10] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: I haven't rebuilt the kernel ever before so its still a little bit of a daunting task :-P
[08:10] <Mordof> cppnewbie, for what
[08:10] <CuriosCat> Hi all
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> larson9999 , hm, okay,  but then, its assuming its the exact same Xp version that was installed before (in GRUB) like
[08:10] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: what kernel are you using?
[08:10] <Cryptid> Mordof, are drivers for Ubuntu seperatly avilable???
[08:10] <Mordof> CuriosCat, hi
[08:10] <rukuartic> Question: I'm trying to run XAMPP, but MySQLd doesn't want to start. Anyone have any ides on how to get things going?
[08:10] <cppnewbie> for ubuntu! whatever is on the disk!
[08:10] <jsestri2> 2.6.12-9-386
[08:10] <HappyFool> cppnewbie: it depends what you're trying to compile. build-essential is good enough for compiling basic C/C++ programs
[08:10] <Mordof> Cryptid, um... IA32 drivers for linux are the ones you want if you are on a 32 bit machine
[08:10] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with screen?
[08:10] <CuriosCat> I tried installing the Terminal package in ubuntu 5.10, but when I try to launch Terminal O
[08:10] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: 2.6.12-9-386
[08:10] <jsestri2>  (i think i might be able to use a 686 tho)
[08:11] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: was it not fixed in 2.6.12-10?
[08:11] <cppnewbie> well HappyFool what if i wanna be ready for everything?
[08:11] <CuriosCat> I'm told "Failed to execute child entry (no such file or directory"
[08:11] <Mordof> Cryptid, they arent for ubuntu SPECIFICALLY, because they can work with other distros
[08:11] <jenda> How do I know if a dataprojector will work on my Ubuntu box?
[08:11] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: obviously not i have the exact same problem
[08:11] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: you are not using 2.6.12-10
[08:12] <larson9999> B_166-ER-X: well, i'm always installing the same version of windows so I'm not sure.
[08:12] <shawn_home> launchpad shows xvidcap
[08:12] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: oooooo, whats the best way to upgrade to that?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:12] <pianoboy3333> !screen
[08:12] <ubotu> methinks screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> larson9999 ok, thankx..
[08:12] <Cryptid> Mordof, i have P4 EMT64 processor ( i think that is 64bit processor) but i install the x86 PC version of ubuntu instead of the EMT64/AMD64, so which drivers should i get????
[08:13] <shawn_home> oh, xvidcap is only source not binary yet in dapper
[08:13] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: ok thanks, I'll try that
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> larson9999 (i've lost my XP cd.. so i had to find another one, wich i guess is not exactly the same i had)
[08:13] <fangorious> jsestri2: are you still having the hotplug problem?
[08:13] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: yeah this is the same deal here
[08:13] <boonie> Hi, I have Hoary on my system right now, and I burned a Breezy disc and put it into my CD-ROM drive. Normally it asks if I want to upgrade with it when I put it in, but it doesn't anymore. How can I get it to upgrade?
[08:13] <cppnewbie> so HappyFool whats good to have from the beginning if i want everything?
[08:13] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: sorry wrong name
[08:14] <Mordof> Cryptid, IA64
[08:14] <jsestri2> fangorious: yes i am
[08:14] <Mordof> er
[08:14] <Mordof> wait
[08:14] <larson9999> B_166-ER-X: oh, i've reinstalled xp from a different cd and didn't have any problems.  i thought maybe you were talking like nt to xp or something.
[08:14] <Mordof> Cryptid, you have the 32 bit ubuntu installed? if so then get IA32, if you have the 64 bit ubuntu, get IA64
[08:14] <cppnewbie> not everything just what is needed for a newbie with a few extras
[08:14] <fangorious> jsestri2: if you know what module is being loaded for the sound card, you can list it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist and hotplug won't load it
[08:14] <B_166-ER-X> well, Xp pro fr / xp pro gold eng.
[08:15] <padmini> hey
[08:15] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: same deal as what?
[08:15] <padmini> I'm having trouble installing mplayer on breezy
[08:15] <jsestri2> fangorious: thanks i already figured that out, i'm not trying to get hotplug to actually load it
[08:15] <Cryptid> padmini, hey u an Indian???
[08:15] <padmini> Yup
[08:15] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: sorry that was meant for someone else
[08:15] <Cryptid> me tooo
[08:15] <fangorious> i just lost nm-applet in an upgrade to network-manager in dapper
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ah ok i was gonna say theres no way the new kernel is running :(
[08:16] <Xenguy> larson9999: yep, that's what I ended up having to do here also
[08:16] <padmini> can anyone help? As soon as I try install mplayer it keeps telling me that I need libdirectfb-0.9-20
[08:16] <larson9999> B_166-ER-X: but i didn't think that kind of thing mattered anyway for the boot loader.  just thought it pointed to were to boot from and the name associated was sorta arbitrary.  maybe i'm wrong about that though.  i know that will lilo, i can swap a win98 hd with an xp one and it will boot from the lilo just fine.
[08:16] <padmini> hey cryptid
[08:16] <cppnewbie> ok forget it, ill go find out meself :D
[08:16] <majikstreet> !pt
[08:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:16] <B_166-ER-X> okay
[08:16] <gnomefreak> padmini: than install the lib but i would use the wiki for mplayer
[08:16] <B_166-ER-X> larson9999 thankx again
[08:16] <jenda> How do I know if a dataprojector will work on my Ubuntu box? It's a Hitachi CP-RS55 - Google won't say.
[08:16] <B_166-ER-X> i'll try
[08:16] <iceman> on i am in a text irc .... now lost
[08:16] <jsestri2> is upgrading from the 386 kernel to the 686 kernel worth it?
[08:16] <padmini> I tried installing the lib, using synaptic
[08:17] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[08:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:17] <iceman> how to get x working again
[08:17] <gnomefreak> padmini: go there it should give you all the names of what you need
[08:17] <padmini> but it only gave me lib.9-22
[08:17] <padmini> which I reckoned would have worked but it didn't
[08:17] <Cryptid> padmini, it mean u have that dependency missing so look up for it in synaptic and try installing it,, once done try running ur player again
[08:17] <padmini> yeah, I've tried the wiki, thnx
[08:17] <gnomefreak> padmini: can you paste your sources.list file on pastebin
[08:18] <iceman> Installed nvidia drivers, now lost any x access ... and a sessions manager screen ...
[08:18] <padmini> er, how do I that?
[08:18] <kbrooks> is the debins author here
[08:18] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:18] <padmini> (just started using ubuntu/linux/irc!)
[08:18] <padmini> ah right
[08:18] <padmini> thnx
[08:18] <gnomefreak> debins author?
[08:18] <nicktastic> When I try to install libfam0 and libfam-dev on breezy, apt wants to uninstall GNOME. Is there any way to get libfam0 and libfam-dev installed on a breezy box without removing GNOME?
[08:18] <padmini> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:19] <padmini> er, sorry
[08:19] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, Yes.
[08:19] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with the terminal program 'screen'? I'm trying to make it so that I can do two processes at once, one run a bzflag server (bzfs) and one run bzflag
[08:19] <gnomefreak> nicktastic: are you sue its not ubuntu-desktop it wasnts to remove?
[08:19] <untoxx> salut les gens
[08:19] <iceman> help, on getting x working
[08:19] <_jason> pianoboy3333: ctrl-A, ?
[08:19] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: No, I'm not sure
[08:19] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: But probably :)
[08:19] <pianoboy3333> _jason: wat'll that do?
[08:19] <dyrne> iceman: you installed correct drivers? legacy etc.?
[08:19] <gnomefreak> nicktastic: you might want to make sure
[08:19] <_jason> pianoboy3333: that will give you a help table, to create a new window you do ctrl-a, c
[08:19] <padmini> right, and where do I find my sources.list?
[08:19] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: Well, eithe rway, the question remains
[08:19] <gnomefreak> nicktastic: ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove
[08:19] <shawn_home> oh, ok gvidcap/xvidcap is in 'dependency state' wait mode
[08:20] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: I see, thanks
[08:20] <shawn_home> so its coming for dapper
[08:20] <gnomefreak> nicktastic: gnome not so safe to remove
[08:20] <kbrooks> what is dapper+1 going to have
[08:20] <_jason> pianoboy3333: you don't need screen to do two jobs at once, you can do that with job control
[08:20] <wastrel> sigh
[08:20] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: can we get past dapper devel first?
[08:20] <iceman> dyrne installed all 3 nvidia downloads from the howto, but ctrl-alt- backspace took me to a text prompt, was able to just type startx, and had gnome load, then rebooted, and lost all x ..
[08:20] <gnomefreak> dapper+1 wont be worked on til after dapper is out
[08:21] <kbrooks> :)
[08:21] <jenda> How do I know if a dataprojector will work on my Ubuntu box? It's a Hitachi CP-RS55 - Google won't say.
[08:21] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: I dpkg --purge
[08:21] <_jason> pianoboy3333: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/x6632.html
[08:21] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: I dpkg --purge'ed ubuntu-desktop, but installing libfam0 still wants to remove gnome
[08:21] <dyrne> iceman: and you sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> !info libfam
[08:22] <rukuartic> Can someone help me start up MySQLd? Whenever I try to run "sudo ./mysqld_safe" the program starts, and then stops immediately
[08:22] <iceman> dyrne yes ...
[08:22] <gnomefreak> nicktastic:  i dont have a clue why it wants to remove gnome
[08:22] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: Okay, thanks anyway
[08:22] <padmini> where would I find sources.list, gnome?
[08:22] <dyrne> iceman: i had a time getting nvidia drivers in ubuntu for my k7 kernel to work ended up just using ones from nvidia site..
[08:22] <gnomefreak> padmini: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:22] <pianoboy3333> _jason: but I also need a command for it, I have a perl program that is going to run a system command
[08:23] <gnomefreak> padmini: full command it sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:23] <geneo93> jenda:  try looking for your projector and linux
[08:23] <_jason> pianoboy3333: and you want the command to go in the background?
[08:23] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: Ah - libgamin0 masquerades as libfam0c102, which conflicts with libfam0
[08:23] <iceman> any way i can remove or restore the original config file
[08:23] <dyrne> iceman: but you should be able to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change 3 things and at least have vesa working abain
[08:23] <jenda> geneo93: As I said, won't say.
[08:23] <dyrne> again*
[08:23] <_jason> pianoboy3333: can't you just append '&' to it?
[08:23] <aberrant> I just upgraded from hoary to breezy and the sound isn't working...anybody heard of this problem, know what to check?
[08:23] <pianoboy3333> _jason: hmmmmm
[08:24] <padmini> it's on paste now, gnome
[08:24] <geneo93> jenda:  it would be in hardware support usb or the like
[08:24] <iceman> dyrne how to access a terminal or exit here, leave irc running and enter test ?
[08:24] <kbrooks> padmini, URL.
[08:24] <gnomefreak> padmini: can i have the link to your paste
[08:24] <ok_newbie> anyone here know much about which kernel to use?
[08:24] <padmini> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8895
[08:24] <asdffasf> please, a good dvd player, tnx
[08:24] <gnomefreak> ok_newbie: depedsn what you are on
[08:24] <wastrel> is there a simple howto floating around somewhere on getting local mail delivery working on breezy?
[08:24] <nicktastic> gnomefreak: All fixed, thanks for the help
[08:24] <gnomefreak> asdffasf: mplayer
[08:24] <TU2> how do i change from GDM to XDM? i uninstall GDM but XDM won't run
[08:24] <aberrant> asdffasf VLC
[08:24] <gnomefreak> nickrud: yw
[08:24] <asdffasf> tnx i love you guys! Bye
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> TU2,  try dpkg-recofigure xdm
[08:25] <TU2> i did.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> reconfigure
[08:25] <TU2> will try again
[08:25] <ok_newbie> I have a p4 with HT I think I should have the 686 smp ?
[08:25] <TU2> brb.
[08:25] <iceman> how to get to a prompt screen from chat ?
[08:25] <padmini> gnome: you got it?
[08:25] <pianoboy3333> I don't think so
[08:25] <aberrant> i upgraded from hoary to breezy and the sound doesn't work...what's that command to regurgitate the text output of the boot process?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> padmini: first start with putting a # infront of the cdrom repo
[08:25] <dyrne> iceman: alt-f1 through alt-f8 will toggle open logins you have just toggle though until you get out of irc and login
[08:25] <wastrel> iceman:  ctrl-alt-f2
[08:25] <padmini> right...
[08:26] <gnomefreak> padmini: save close run sudo apt-get update
[08:26] <iceman> ok now how to edit x.config file
[08:26] <aberrant> dmesg ....that's it
[08:26] <gnomefreak> iceman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:26] <jsestri2> ok_newbie: mm are you talking about getting the 686 kernel?
[08:27] <GTX> hello guys, Im playing a game right now but my sound is awfull
[08:27] <GTX> all it does is lag
[08:27] <gnomefreak> ok_newbie: smp is for ht processers
[08:27] <GTX> but its fine with music, its a game Im playing
[08:27] <ok_newbie> jsestri2 I installed it and now my system is slower
[08:27] <gnomefreak> padmini: any reason you are using hoary not breezy?
[08:27] <jsestri2> ok_newbie: i see, talk to gnomefreak, he knows more...I just want to follow, i was thinking about doing that myself
[08:28] <ok_newbie> thanx
[08:28] <Cryptid> What the Diffrence between the 32 and 64bit version of ubuntu??? both work on my EMT64 P4 processor which 1 should i use???
[08:28] <GTX> Can someone help me with my sound?
[08:28] <padmini> gnome: it's not letting me save it, saying it's read only
[08:28] <GTX> It lags in games like ET :/
[08:28] <[blah] > what is better ubuntu or gnome?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> Cryptid: i suggest the 386 since all apps will run on it :)
[08:28] <[blah] > err kde or gnome i mean
[08:28] <gnomefreak> padmini: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <wastrel> [blah] :  gnome is better
[08:28] <ok_newbie> Under Mandriva 06 with the smp kernel it screams
[08:28] <Mordof> Cryptid, i went afk, not sure weither you asked for anything else or not.. but 32 bit would work best
[08:28] <speyer> how do i configure xorg server to use xv instead x11 ? i set mplayer to use vo=xv in the config file but mplayer will use x11 because of the resolution or something
[08:28] <speyer> vo: X11 running at 1280x1024 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)
[08:29] <speyer> is there anyway to make mplayer to use vo=xv ?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> ok_newbie: this isnt mandriva (thank god) but the smp kerenl should be fine
[08:29] <onweald_tim> Grub problem: after install, I get a flashing cursor.  There is a pause then the cursor moves down two lines.  Any ideas why this is happening?
[08:29] <speyer> !vo=xv
[08:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, speyer
[08:29] <dyrne> iceman: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf if nvidia installed you should see a Section "Device" and below will say Driver "nvidia"
[08:29] <onweald_tim> None of the grub faqs have any help on this.
[08:29] <[blah] > thanx wastrel
[08:29] <speyer> !vo
[08:29] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, speyer
[08:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell onweald_tim about grub
[08:29] <jab> Anyone else having problems with gnome-panel in dapper?
[08:29] <mister_roboto> [blah] : kde is better ;)
[08:29] <roostishaw> y?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> onweald_tim: try that see if it helps
[08:30] <Evodawg> does ubuntu prefer Grub to Lilo for booting?  I'm dual booting with Mandriva and when I switched to Lilo ubuntu does not want to boot completely.
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Evodawg: yes
[08:30] <mister_roboto> [blah] : of course it's totally a personal taste thing.
[08:30] <Cryptid> gnomefreak & Mordof  thanx
[08:30] <[blah] > mister_roboto, do you use it?
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Cryptid: yw
[08:30] <mister_roboto> [blah] : yes i do
[08:30] <ok_newbie> gnomefreak I agree with the mandriva part, I am in ubuntu I just used mandriva to get a good feel for how to config my notebook
[08:30] <Mordof> Cryptid, did you get your troubles fixed with the video driver yet?
[08:30] <iceman> well shoot still errors ...
[08:30] <Evodawg> gnomefreak: so this could be the problem
[08:30] <gnomefreak> if ubuntu perfered lilo lilo would install by default
[08:30] <GTX> Hello Guy's, I'm trying to run a game called ET on my system, I have no problems at all except the sound! The quality is awfull, I start it up with sound by using aoss before the actul command, can someone help me?
[08:30] <[blah] > mister_roboto, have you tried it on anything other than ubuntu?
[08:30] <iceman> fatal io error 104
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Evodawg: not normally a problem using lilo
[08:30] <onweald_tim> gnomefreak...  ubotu gave a parse error.
[08:31] <mister_roboto> [blah] : yes, ran suse for about 1.5 years
[08:31] <roostishaw> what protocal does irc use... anyone?
[08:31] <gnomefreak> onweald_tim: look at your pm from ubotu
[08:31] <Seveas> roostishaw, IRC 
[08:31] <padmini> gnome: I upgraded to breezy, yesterday? At least I *thought* I did ....
[08:31] <gnomefreak> padmini: you did not
[08:31] <ok_newbie> My hardware is pain to setup
[08:31] <Evodawg> gnomefreak:  getting error when booting unbuntu  but Mandriva boots up fine
[08:31] <dyrne> iceman:  you cant sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf? its case sensitive
[08:31] <gnomefreak> Evodawg: does grub come up?
[08:31] <roostishaw> Seveas: thanks...
[08:31] <[blah] > mister_roboto, is it the same as on suse or is it cleaner / customized for ubuntu?
[08:32] <onweald_tim> gnomefreak: Trillian stinks.  I got the message in the background.  :-)  Thanks!
[08:32] <[blah] > Seveas, how'd you do that?
[08:32] <jsestri2> are there any reasons why i wouldn't want to upgrade my kerenel from the 386 version to the 686 version?
[08:32] <Evodawg> gnomefreak:  no booting with Lilo now, it did when I first installed it
[08:32] <gnomefreak> onweald_tim: no kidding it does thats why gaim comes with ubuntu
[08:32] <kevo_tool> jsestri2: What is your processor?
[08:32] <IdleOne> [blah] :  like this ()
[08:32] <mister_roboto> [blah] : kde is kde. i don't recall any specific little tweaks. anyway, i just go through and customize after install so it doesn't matter a lot to me
[08:32] <[blah] > 
[08:32] <gnomefreak> Evodawg: will lilo boot both either ubuntu or whatever
[08:32] <padmini> gnome: that's so weird, it looks different and everything, spent the whole day yesterday updating
[08:32] <jenda> How do I know if a dataprojector will work on my Ubuntu box? It's a Hitachi CP-RS55 - Google won't say.
[08:32] <Cryptid> Mordof, i am download the drivers at the moment,, if i got ne problems with it i will get back to u,,, the problem is that in gdesklets none of the desklet transparencies work so some 1 told me that its the graphic card problem(then i was using inte 915 motherboard) so now i connected my XFX6600 and will see if the problem is fixed
[08:32] <geneo93> jenda:  found this page for projectors http://www.spinics.net/linux/vidproj.php
[08:32] <gnomefreak> padmini: you didnt do something right
[08:33] <padmini> gnome: is it poss that only part of it got upgraded
[08:33] <jsestri2> intel p4 3.0ghz
[08:33] <speyer> does anyone knows ?
[08:33] <jenda> geneo93: hey thanks :)
[08:33] <padmini> gnome: any idea what it could be?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> padmini: doesnt look like anything got upgraded
[08:33] <roostishaw> is there any 'real' way to use WPA with ubuntu?  (im talking with a GUI and such)
[08:33] <jsestri2> kevo_tool: intel p4 3.0ghz
[08:33] <Seveas> roostishaw, not yet
[08:33] <kevo_tool> jsestri2: Go for it then.
[08:33] <Evodawg> gnomefreak:  yea it does but the mouse does not work when the splash screen comes up on Ubuntu
[08:33] <Seveas> roostishaw, probably in the version after dapper
[08:33] <Mordof> Cryptid, yeah that should definately fix it
[08:33] <gnomefreak> Evodawg: thats a mouse issue not a lilo ro grub issue
[08:33] <Evodawg> gnomefreak:  usb mouse
[08:33] <jsestri2> kevo_tool: i was reading other people here talking about it slowing down the machine?
[08:34] <yanimax> where to download divx on newsgroups ?
[08:34] <mister_roboto> [blah] : it's not like you have to make an irreversible decision. you can install kde on ubuntu and run either desktop to see what you like better. no sense getting religious about it, IMO. although you find a lot of that
[08:34] <jsestri2> kevo_tool: or is that just the smp kernel?
[08:34] <roostishaw> Seveas, so i have to wait more than a year?
[08:34] <padmini> gnome: do you think I should just try again by following the instructions on the Wiki? On synaptic though I'm getting it breezy as a repository....
[08:34] <Evodawg> gnomefreak:  yes but there are boot errors, dont remember them now
[08:34] <gnomefreak> Evodawg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and keep everything the same and just make sure your mouse is known as a usb mouse
[08:34] <kevo_tool> jsestri2: It should definitely not slow down your computer.
[08:34] <jsestri2> ok
[08:34] <gnomefreak> padmini: run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <Seveas> roostishaw, no, Ubuntu has a new release every 6 months
[08:35] <padmini> okay
[08:35] <gnomefreak> padmini: let me know when done
[08:35] <geneo93> jenda:  what interface does it use
[08:35] <Cryptid> Mordof, i found these nvidia-glx drivers in synaptic what is that for???
[08:35] <roostishaw> Seveas, but will DraperDrake have support for WPA?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> btw someone typed xdm earlier what is xdm?
[08:35] <jenda> geneo93: hey... it's listed in there, but clicking the link just kicks me to Amazon.com. Interface? Dunno... how would I find out... lemme look around.
[08:36] <asdffasf> roblems with ./configure mplayer
[08:36] <Seveas> roostishaw, there has been wpa support since the first version
[08:36] <Seveas> roostishaw, just no gui for setting it up
[08:36] <Evodawg> gnomefreak:  well the problem without a mouse I can't move around. guess I could log in with console and fix
[08:36] <_jason> asdffasf: you know mplayer is in the repos?
[08:36] <asdffasf> ?
[08:36] <geneo93> does it attach to video card jenda
[08:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell asdffasf about mplayer
[08:36] <pianoboy3333> _jason: here is the line bzfs& -badwords '/home/alex/bws.txt' -reportfile '/home/alex/report.txt' -world '/home/alex/maps/confusion2.bzw' -password superrite but when I do bzfs&, it doesn't accept/acknoledge the arguments
[08:36] <padmini> gnome: saying it's a malformed line 1 in source list?
[08:36] <roostishaw> Seveas, oh... ok, thats what i was wondering... and the GUI will hopefully be out after DraperDrake?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> hoold on pad
[08:37] <_jason> pianoboy3333: put it at the end
[08:37] <larson9999> found this data projector in the trash.  works fine except it doesn't show in color :(
[08:37] <gnomefreak> padmini: the line under the cdrom repo needs to be hoary not breezy
[08:37] <Seveas> roostishaw, WPA support is being built into network-manager (cool gui for all kinds of network things) now and will most likely be finished in time for the next version
[08:37] <pianoboy3333> kk
[08:37] <GTX> Hello Guy's, I'm trying to run a game called ET on my system, I have no problems at all except the sound! The quality is awfull, I start it up with sound by using aoss before the actul command, can someone help me?
[08:37] <uzzy> ma
[08:37] <padmini> gnome:k
[08:38] <jenda> geneo93: I don't know, I've never had it in my hands. It says "Inputs: 1 composite, 1 S-Video, 1 VGA" on Amazon
[08:38] <gnomefreak> padmini: once changed run sudo apt-get update
[08:38] <pianoboy3333> THANKS ALOT!
[08:38] <uzzy> imi spuneti si mie cum pot folosi utilizatorul root
[08:38] <GTX> lo _jason, You normaly help me in here could you look at my above question please matey :LD
[08:38] <gnomefreak> after you save it ofcourse :)
[08:38] <Seveas> !tell uzzy about it
[08:38] <geneo93> jenda:  well its does connect to video card or capture card either one
[08:38] <iceman> shoot cannot get nvidia drivers installed .... help
[08:39] <Seveas> !tell iceman about nvidia
[08:39] <srivatsark> anybody know about vpnclient for  ubuntu 5.10
[08:39] <_jason> GTX: don't know too much about sound
[08:39] <jenda> geneo93: the vga input would kinda suggest it will just take a connection from the PC's monitor port, no?
[08:39] <TU2> Ok.  Whenever XDM starts it bombs out
[08:39] <jon_k> !tell jon_k about nvidia
[08:39] <TU2> and there is no log what so ever
[08:39] <gnomefreak> padmini: once you change that line to read hoary not breezy sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <TU2> X works find if i do startx
[08:39] <GTX> Seveas, could you help with it, your inteligent ?:P
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Interesting Kernel "update" has change log of -->  "MoMMY MOMMY" :P
[08:39] <geneo93> jenda:  it will hook right in place of monitor or if you have tv out you can use that
[08:40] <roostishaw> Seveas, thanks a lot for the help... im obviously a noob, :)
[08:40] <henrik__> do u have to be eisteijn to install a simple nokia card
[08:40] <Seveas> roostishaw, we all were noobs once 
[08:40] <TU2> anyone know how i could figure out why XDM is just bombing out and not logging or giving an error message?
[08:40] <roostishaw> Seveas, lol
[08:40] <jenda> geneo93: Yes, I sort of thought so, but wanted to make sure. Will it just appear as a monitor to my Ubuntu PC?
[08:40] <iceman> Seveas I diid the howto... but if i enable the Nvidia driver from "sudo dpkg-reonfigur xserver-xorg" X will not start ...
[08:40] <adub> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37             Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386
[08:41] <Seveas> iceman, could you put /var/log/xorg.0.log on the pastebin
[08:41] <mister_roboto> TU2: there is nothing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[08:41] <dyrne> iceman: lsmod | grep nvidia does that respond with nvidia driver or nothing?
[08:41] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: the problem wtih my onboard audio was not fixed in 2.6.12-10
[08:41] <geneo93> jenda:  it might take some tweaking but should work fine
[08:41] <klaym> Seveas: how did you do that smiley?
[08:41] <iceman> sec
[08:41] <adub> i dont know if that is my problem gnome freak
[08:41] <GTX> Hello Guy's, I'm trying to run a game called ET on my system, I have no problems at all except the sound! The quality is awfull, I start it up with sound by using aoss before the actul command, can someone help me?
[08:41] <Seveas> klaym: 
[08:41] <jenda> geneo93: OK, thanks... the 'some tweaking' sounds a little scary... how deep would that go?
[08:42] <mister_roboto> GTX: you might try asking in #kubuntu also if nobody can help here
[08:42] <padmini> gnome: I'm still getting that malformed line thing
[08:42] <klaym> 
[08:42] <iceman> iceman@icebox-64:~$ lsmod | grep nvidia
[08:42] <iceman> nvidia               3923004  0
[08:42] <iceman> agpgart                32328  2 amd64_agp,nvidia
[08:42] <Seveas> GTX, aoss destroys the sound - ET should simply play nice but since it does not: kill everything that uses /dev/dsp before starting the game
[08:42] <adub> gnomefreak    or  seveas my keyboard typing is slow
[08:42] <geneo93> just a resalution change maybe jenda
[08:42] <GTX> Seveas, It doesnt play with sound
[08:42] <GTX> if I remove command
[08:42] <dyrne> iceman: ok its loaded. but you say gnome wont start right
[08:42] <gnomefreak> padmini: after you took out breezy and added hoary in its place did you click save?
[08:42] <jenda> geneo93: Oh OK, that sounds good. Thanks for your help :)
[08:42] <geneo93> sure np
[08:43] <padmini> gnome: yeah
[08:43] <gnomefreak> padmini: sudo apt-get update?
[08:43] <GTX> Seveas, It shows nothing as using it :(
[08:43] <Cubey> hi
[08:43] <padmini> gnome: when I'm doing that, it's saying malformed line etc
[08:43] <gnomefreak> padmini: paste the sources.list file on pastebin please
[08:43] <iceman> dyrne had to reconfigure ... restart gdm ... now x works ... but no glx enabled
[08:44] <iceman> #pastebin
[08:44] <cppnewbie> here i am unfortunately a 3rd time, presented with another error... :'(
[08:44] <crimsun> jsestri2: sure, sec
[08:44] <sdfasfas> please the link again for setting mplayer
[08:44] <cppnewbie> while installing the nforce stuff: no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means the installer will compile a new kernel interface.
[08:45] <dyrne> iceman: in xorg.conf Section "Module" should show Load "glx" does it?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sdfasfas about mplayer
[08:45] <gnomefreak> sdfasfas: your pm should hav eit
[08:45] <padmini> gnome: k
[08:45] <dyrne> ubotu: tell iceman about paste
[08:45] <gnomefreak> padmini: can i have the link please?
[08:45] <crimsun> jsestri2: have you disabled the onboard HDA sound chipset in bios? If not, do so, then boot into Ubuntu.
[08:45] <jsestri2> crimsun: specifically i was looking at this bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/21256
[08:45] <iceman> just pasted xorg.0.log
[08:45] <cppnewbie> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently working kernel. Please make sure u have installed the kernel source files for your kernel.
[08:45] <jsestri2> crimsun: i have already done that yes
[08:45] <unperson> I've just started using iPodder, but I'm have a strange issue.  Some podcasts I have subscribed to seem normal, but then when it downloads the files they're not actually the audio file.
[08:45] <cppnewbie> where do i get the source files?
[08:46] <unperson> In some cases they are just blank 0 k files.  In other cases they are HTML with a link pointing to another location.
[08:46] <cppnewbie> also my ntfs disk cant be viewed while on ubuntu but it appears as a disk.
[08:46] <padmini> gnome: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8896
[08:46] <Ryugi> gob bless debian
[08:46] <Ryugi> god bless debian
[08:46] <iceman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8897
[08:46] <GTX> Seveas, It shows nothing as using it :(
[08:46] <Ryugi> god bless ubuntu
[08:47] <gnomefreak> padmini: the # in the cdrom repo should be before the word deb
[08:47] <unperson> Yet, if I subscribe to the RSS feed with my feed reader (Liferea), click on the enclosures, and say "save as" I get the proper audio file.
[08:47] <crimsun> jsestri2: I had the bot send you instructions
[08:47] <iceman> wheres xorg.conf at ?
[08:47] <adub> URGENT:  please someone help me my keyboard is  slllllllllllllllow   <-------------           it took 5 minutes to type that
[08:47] <crimsun> iceman: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:47] <padmini> gnome: aah right *feels stupid*
[08:47] <jsestri2> crimsun: thankyou i'll try that out
[08:47] <gnomefreak> padmini: dont feel like that yet give it time :)
[08:47] <crimsun> jsestri2: make sure you choose "hda-intel" during the dpkg-reconfigure step
[08:47] <gnomefreak> padmini: save close run sudo apt-get update
[08:48] <iceman> dont see glx ?
[08:48] <monkey89> is there any updated howto for doing a debootstrap install from a livecd with dapper
[08:48] <padmini> gnome: yup, doing that now, it's looking hopeful :)
[08:48] <jadams> hey all, is there an easy way to see which process is using a directory / files in a directory?
[08:48] <iceman> ok glx is there
[08:48] <gnomefreak> padmini: let me know when update is done
[08:48] <padmini> gnome: You don't say ;)
[08:48] <gnomefreak> you will see :)
[08:49] <padmini> gnome: k
[08:49] <iceman> iceman@icebox-64:~$ glxgears
[08:49] <iceman> Segmentation fault
[08:49] <iceman> iceman@icebox-64:~$
[08:49] <iceman> ? why that
[08:49] <gnomefreak> padmini: after its done sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <yggdrasil> hello anyone here have any experiince with hp all in one usb printers setups ?
[08:49] <jsestri2> !repo
[08:49] <padmini> gnome: will do
[08:49] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jsestri2
[08:50] <gnomefreak> hopefully it will say already installed
[08:50] <jsestri2> crimsun: how do i enable the universe repository?
[08:50] <iceman> cannot run glxgears ... Segmentation fault
[08:50] <theD3viL> jsestri2: with synaptic
[08:50] <cppnewbie> k cannot stay, ill b here tomorrow.
[08:51] <crimsun> !tell jsestri2 about repos
[08:51] <kennethd> hi, I don't have multiverse in my sources.list because I don't want any non-free software installed, however mplayer's inclusion in debian makes me think it probably isn't non-free, but even if I add multiverse just long enough to `aptitude update` and `apt-cache show mplayer-586`, I cannot determine the license... is there a way to find out what license a package is released under before installing it?
[08:51] <iceman> why cant i rin glxgears ?
[08:51] <iceman> run ?
[08:51] <unperson> jadams, Check out the "lsio" and "fuser" commands.
[08:51] <robinl1> ehh
[08:51] <robinl1> hoi? oO
[08:51] <GTX> Hello Guy's, I'm trying to run a game called ET on my system, I have no problems at all except the sound! The quality is awfull, I start it up with sound by using aoss before the actul command, can someone help me?
[08:51] <cramop> hi, I know this may not be the exact place to ask but, I am planning to buy a mini dv camcorder with firewire output. Will I be abe to copy the whole movie as a file? or will I have to copy it in analog mode?
[08:52] <unperson> jadams, I don't recall the details, but I know those are useful for that stuff.  Check out the man pages for more info.
[08:52] <padmini> gnome: did that, says there are broken packages :(
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> cramop,  should be able to get it into a file with digital transfer.
[08:52] <gnomefreak> padmini: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:52] <unperson> Any suggestions for good podcast aggragation software?
[08:52] <iceman> crud, why cant i get glx to run
[08:53] <cramop> Dr_Willis, do I have to play the tape on the camcorder side in realtime?
[08:53] <jadams> unperson: thanks much
[08:53] <TU2> Ok
[08:53] <TU2> XDM is starting
[08:53] <roostishaw> what is the gnome apt-get gui called?
[08:53] <TU2> but it dosn'tdisplay the login screen
[08:53] <TU2> it puts me in the console
[08:53] <TU2> any ideas?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> cramop,  No. shouldent have to.
[08:53] <unperson> jadams, np.
[08:53] <padmini> gnome: says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:53] <grub> Alguem do Brasil?
[08:54] <unperson> roostishaw, Are you talking about Synaptic or something else?
[08:54] <HappyFool> !br
[08:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:54] <sebastian> ubuntu/kubuntu doesn't burn cd's
[08:54] <sebastian> lame
[08:54] <grub> Valeuuuuuu
[08:54] <unperson> roostishaw, I don't know which (if any) are the "official" gnome GUIs.
[08:54] <roostishaw> unperson, yep, thats what i meant, thx
[08:54] <er_CHEF> how to install amsn.deb on ubuntu???
[08:54] <gnomefreak> padmini: ok open the sources.list again and change all hoarys to breezy save run sudo apt-get update again
[08:54] <TU2> exit
[08:54] <roostishaw> how do i add the universe and multiverse repos. to synaptic?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> padmini: no fear i know why its doing that :)
[08:55] <padmini> gnome: will do *trusts*
[08:55] <er_CHEF> how to install amsn.deb on ubuntu???
[08:55] <voland> hello again. I've troubles with Audacity - his interface does not display russian letters. My locale is utf-8. Where can I change settings of environment?
[08:55] <zephyrxero> Anybody having trouble with your network settings at boot time after the last update?
[08:55] <unperson> roostishaw, I *thought* that if you go to the repositories dialog they're already in there and all you have to do is check them.
[08:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell roostishaw about repos
[08:55] <GTX> Hello Guy's, I'm trying to run a game called ET on my system, I have no problems at all except the sound! The quality is awfull, I start it up with sound by using aoss before the actul command, can someone help me?
[08:56] <crimsun> jsestri2: I'm out for family business, if you have issues leave me message. After you execute those steps that the bot sent you, just reboot and enable the onboard sound.
[08:56] <kennethd> no way to find out the license of a package without installing it?  is there a website similar to packages.debian.org?
[08:56] <HappyFool> sebastian: i've sucessfully burned many cd's using ubuntu. Try gnomebaker. There's also a highly recommended KDE app whose name i've forgotten
[08:56] <roostishaw> unperson, i did but i get an error message
[08:56] <_jason> HappyFool: sebastian: k3b
[08:56] <mike___> sebastian: k3b
[08:56] <ZephyrXero> kennethd packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[08:56] <unperson> roostishaw, What's the jist of it?
[08:56] <er_CHEF> how to install amsn.deb on ubuntu????????????????
[08:56] <sebastian> k3b doesn't work
[08:56] <sebastian> graveman appears to be working
[08:56] <gnomefreak> er_CHEF: sudo apt-get install amsn
[08:56] <HappyFool> _jason: that was it, ta. maybe if it had a more logical name ;)
[08:56] <unperson> roostishaw, Is it something about bad keys?
[08:57] <roostishaw> unperson, wait, its trying... ill tell you the error when its done and it says it.
[08:57] <Cubey> boo
[08:57] <FLSimpsonKPT> Does Anyone Here Use Ubuntu to run a Half-life server?
[08:57] <voland> sebastian, you can try graveman
[08:57] <unperson> er_CHEF, dpkg -i amsn.deb   I think.
[08:58] <unperson> roostishaw, Ok.
[08:58] <bitwiseshiftleft> question: i've just tried to import my music library on ubuntu, but both rhythmbox and amarok say for every file that it's not an audio stream
[08:58] <FLSimpsonKPT> im having problems with dedicated ports
[08:58] <gnomefreak> no reason to do that amsn is in the repos
[08:58] <sebastian> strange
[08:58] <bitwiseshiftleft> how do i fix this?
[08:58] <roostishaw> unperson, its almost done
[08:58] <padmini> unperson: you on e2?
[08:58] <bitwiseshiftleft> oh, except that rhythmbox is fine with the one .wav in my collection.
[08:58] <ZephyrXero> bitwiseshiftleft: you'll need to install the mp3 drivers (lame, etc)
[08:58] <unperson> padmini, Yes.
[08:58] <ThorHappy> got questions about ubuntu before i install :)
[08:58] <roostishaw> unperson, The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[08:59] <ThorHappy> hi
[08:59] <MisterN> brb
[08:59] <bitwiseshiftleft> zephyxero: lame and what else?
[08:59] <FLSimpsonKPT> does anyone know how to fix dedicated server ports?
[08:59] <nicholas> Ok
[08:59] <nicholas> XDM starts
[08:59] <unperson> roostishaw, Ah.  But the other repositories work?
[08:59] <nicholas> but it dosn't displat a login screeen
[08:59] <nicholas> how do i get it to start.
[08:59] <ThorHappy> somebody PM me if i can bother you with a lot of ubuntu questions
[08:59] <ZephyrXero> Bit: well, I don't think dapper has it yet, but there will eventually be a fluendo-gstreamer-mp3 plugin available for gstreamer .10 apps
[08:59] <gnomefreak> ThorHappy: ask in room you will ge better responce
[09:00] <gnomefreak> s
[09:00] <kennethd> ZephyrXero, aha :)), still, it looks like I was wrong, there's no license info there either (& debian's packages site has been down for some time)
[09:00] <padmini> unperson: hey! I'm [diotina]  *waves*
[09:00] <bitwiseshiftleft> ZephyrXero: heh, i'm on hoary anyway.
[09:00] <HappyFool> ThorHappy: or try #ubuntu-offtopic if you think it's a bit much for here
[09:00] <unperson> padmini, E2 represent!
[09:00] <voland> bitwiseshiftleft, try ubuntuguide.org. There you can find an answer about mp3 and more
[09:00] <roostishaw> unperson, yes (official and copyright)
[09:00] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[09:00] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:00] <Macbeth> how can i start the kde desktop (which ive download as set out in the wiki) when im using gnome, "kdm start" ?
[09:00] <MaxeyPad> is there a list of mirrors for breezy, universe, multiverse and backports that are faster than us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <bitwiseshiftleft> voland: thanks
[09:00] <gnomefreak> ^^^ find mp3 answers there too :)
[09:00] <HappyFool> *gasp* the dreaded ubutung--de!
[09:00] <unperson> roostishaw, Remind me, what's the URL for the repository in question?  (just to make sure it's not temporarily down)
[09:01] <ZephyrXero> bitwiseshiftleft: if it's got a gstreamer backend look for a package called gstreamer lame ;)
[09:01] <ZephyrXero> or ffmpeg
[09:01] <dyrne> Macbeth: there is a sessions button on login screen just use that if you dont mind keeping gdm
[09:01] <larson9999> does ubuntu clean out /tmp on shutdown or maybe startup?  i put something there and it was gone when i rebooted?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> MaxeyPad: not that are official or promised to work
[09:01] <Macbeth> dyrne: Cheers
[09:01] <roostishaw> unperson, sorry, total noob... how do i get the url?
[09:01] <Zoxeris> can you register names here?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> larson9999: i dont think it does but you can make it iirc
[09:01] <voland> and anybody have an idea about russian letters in Audacity?
[09:01] <HappyFool> Zoxeris: yip. /msg nickserv help
[09:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Zoxeris about register
[09:02] <nibblesmx> hi. I've just installed ubuntu dapper and i'm experiencing troubles with my wireless card.
[09:02] <sebastian> graveman is working but k3b/gnomebaker/serpentine isn't
[09:02] <sebastian> weird stuff
[09:02] <ZephyrXero> kennethd: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[09:02] <gnomefreak> padmini: is update done?
[09:02] <unperson> roostishaw, Eh, hold on, I can get it my self.  What release are you using, btw?
[09:02] <Zoxeris> kk thnx
[09:02] <GTX> Hello Guy's, I'm trying to run a game called ET on my system, I have no problems at all except the sound! The quality is awfull, I start it up with sound by using aoss before the actul command, can someone help me?
[09:02] <roostishaw> unperson, breezy badger
[09:02] <unperson> padmini, You should join e2lug.
[09:02] <coolbeing> hi
[09:02] <er_CHEF> when i use dpkg -i amsn.deb
[09:02] <padmini> gnome: nope, still going....
[09:02] <coolbeing> need help with NVIDIA please
[09:02] <kennethd> larson9999, yes, one or the other (shutdown or startup)... pretty sure all *nixs do
[09:02] <er_CHEF> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:02] <er_CHEF>  amsn.debamsn_0.95-2.ubuntu.deb
[09:02] <gnomefreak> nibblesmx: you didnt expect dapper to go smoothly did you?
[09:02] <bitwiseshiftleft> ZephyrXero: still not an audio stream
[09:03] <ZephyrXero> GTX, do you know what sound system it's using? Alsa, OSS?
[09:03] <coolbeing> Mordof: you there?
[09:03] <voland> coolbeing, what kind of problem?
[09:03] <GTX> ZephyrXero, OSS I beleve
[09:03] <Mordof> coolbeing, yes
[09:03] <GTX> ZephyrXero, When I dont start it up without aoss before the cmd I get no sound
[09:03] <GTX> and with it I get currupted sound
[09:03] <nibblesmx> gnomefreak: actually, it's working almost perfectly. In previous ubuntu versions my wireless card was not detected, and i used ndiswrapper for the purpose
[09:03] <padmini> unperson: Erm, sure, though I only started using linux yesterday. :) Loving every moment of it though, windows was driving me batshit.
[09:04] <larson9999> kennethd: all don't.  mandriva doesn't... at least not by default.  i have stuff in /tmp on my mandriva box that i've had there since the 90's :)
[09:04] <coolbeing> voland: i'll talk to Mordof , thanx
[09:04] <ZephyrXero> GTX: see if you can get running through ESD maybe?
[09:04] <nibblesmx> but now it's detected but it's not working neither native support nor ndiswrapper
[09:04] <bitwiseshiftleft> OK. I installed ffmpeg, gstreamer-0.8-lame and lame and it still doesn't work
[09:04] <er_CHEF> when i use dpkg -i amsn.deb
[09:04] <gnomefreak> nibblesmx: clean install or upgrade from breezy?
[09:04] <er_CHEF>  amsn.debamsn_0.95-2.ubuntu.deb
[09:04] <er_CHEF>  amsn.debamsn_0.95-2.ubuntu.deb
[09:04] <GTX> ZephyrXero, how?
[09:04] <nibblesmx> gnomefreak: clean install
[09:04] <er_CHEF> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:04] <GTX> ZephyrXero, what command i type before game?
[09:04] <voland> NickServ REGISTER voland
[09:04] <gnomefreak> nibblesmx: make sure in networking its enabled
[09:04] <gnomefreak> voland: not a good idea to register names in channels
[09:04] <ZephyrXero> GTX: not quite sure on that one...
[09:05] <GTX> ZephyrXero, :/
[09:05] <confrey> hi everybody
[09:05] <ZephyrXero> GTX: man esd ;)
[09:05] <gnomefreak> voland: also its /msg nickserv register password
[09:05] <nibblesmx> gnomefreak: it is enabled but it can't find any wireless networks and when i try with dhclient it says "netrwork is down"
[09:05] <unperson> roostishaw, Ok, let me find some info.  One sec.
[09:05] <gnomefreak> password being what your password is
[09:05] <roostishaw> unperson, ok
[09:05] <kennethd> larson9999, ok, well all my debian, red hat, fedora & solaris boxes do... and I'm pretty sure it happens on this ubuntu laptop too
[09:05] <iceman> help, cannot get the Nvidia glx to work ...
[09:05] <uber_spaced> what's the name of the mp3 codec pack that I can use w/ grip?
[09:06] <ZephyrXero> Is there a dapper specific chat room available, or is this the only one?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> nibblesmx: im not real sure  maybe see if there is a bug on it already (about your card or wifi in general)
[09:06] <GTX> ZephyrXero, cant find anything on it :S
[09:06] <uber_spaced> (in order to rip things to mp3; I want it to be pretty generic mp3)
[09:06] <lulu_> has anyone tried open solaris i386?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> ZephyrXero: this is it
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> hmm grip is a ripper/encoder - normally codec pacs are for the players.
[09:06] <vladuz976> anybody know how to build thunderbird themes?
[09:06] <nibblesmx> gnomefreak: thanks, let me google it
[09:06] <confrey> anybody talking from switzerland?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> vladuz976: try mozillas site or #thunderbird
[09:07] <ZephyrXero> Ok, I'm running dapper, and ever since the latest update the other day my network connections aren't starting automatically anymore, I have to sudo dhclient to get it started now :(  Any idea why?
[09:07] <unperson> padmini, That's the best time.  You can find lots of help on e2LUG.
[09:07] <uber_spaced> Dr_Willis, back in the day, when I installed redhat 9, there was some copyright issue with the codec packs that prevented the mp3 codecs from being installed right off the bat
[09:07] <larson9999> padmini: yeah, windows can drive you battie.  but linux has it's own 'quirks'.  however, i they don't seem to be as bad and somehow i don't feel so bad when a 'quirk' comes my way and i didn't pay for the OS :)
[09:07] <uber_spaced> the rpm package name was mp3-123
[09:07] <uber_spaced> and it allowed for the encoding of mp3s
[09:07] <gnomefreak> ZephyrXero: yes you will see alot of changes in the next month or so
[09:07] <unperson> roostishaw, Ok, the server seems to be up.
[09:07] <padmini> larson9999: I hear you :)
[09:07] <uber_spaced> but, if there is another set of generic codecs that would work to create mp3 files, that would be cool.
[09:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> uber_spaced: mpg123 isn't it?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> uber_spaced,  a 'encoder' is not the same as a codec however.. you can install several encoders thta grip can use.
[09:08] <ZephyrXero> gnomefreak: so it's normal? just wanted to make sure it wasn't something on my end ;)
[09:08] <gsuveg> anyone know a flight-4 mirror ?
[09:08] <uber_spaced> bitwiseshiftleft, yeah
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ZephyrXero: the word unstable means it can and will break without any given notice
[09:08] <uber_spaced> it was like 2 years ago ;)
[09:08] <lulu_> larson9999: it's true u didn't pay for the os
[09:08] <gnomefreak> dapper is for testing purposes only
[09:08] <lulu_> larson9999: at least not with money
[09:08] <GTX> How do I start a program up with esound like to start program up with alsa i use to type aoss ./program
[09:08] <uber_spaced> bitwiseshiftleft, and that seems to have done it.
[09:08] <uber_spaced> muchass garcias.
[09:08] <padmini> unperson: will do then!
[09:08] <bitwiseshiftleft> uber_spaced: np
[09:09] <roostishaw> unperson, i just go to settings>repos   the hit 'add' then when i try either of the bottom two... i get that error message
[09:09] <dave-e> Ununtu boot is stalling at bluetooth .... checking battery state...any ideas??
[09:09] <bitwiseshiftleft> also, installing every gstreamer-plugin available seems to have fixed my music import problems
[09:09] <larson9999> lulu_: yeah, with windows i have to pay both ways.  but i make my living from windows. so i don't hate it all.  i just don't use it for personal use anymore.  well, not for the last 3 years.
[09:09] <er_CHEF> when i download a file.deb in the desktop how the install???
[09:09] <gsuveg> er_CHEF: sudo dpkg -i
[09:09] <gnomefreak> er_CHEF: cd Desktop than sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[09:09] <er_CHEF> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> er_CHEF,  what file.. anyway :P normally downlaioding them that way is not a good idea.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> and you just found out why
[09:10] <la_place> larson9999: i think for linux u need to invest ur time to learn stuff
[09:10] <gnomefreak> er_CHEF: amsn is in the repos you dont need to download it from anywhere but apt
[09:10] <unperson> roostishaw, Well, i don't think you want to hit add, I think you just want to check the checkbox next to the one you want to use.
[09:10] <wastrel> mistakes were made
[09:10] <gsuveg> gnomefreak: yes. i know. i would test tranlation ;)
[09:10] <unperson> roostishaw, Or is the one you want to use not in the list already?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> gsuveg: huh?
[09:10] <roostishaw> unperson, exactly
[09:10] <GTX> How do I start a program up with esound like to start program up with alsa i use to type aoss ./program
[09:10] <gsuveg> gnomefreak: in drapper
[09:11] <sarra> yo, i'm trying to get a wireless card working. is there any way at all i can somehow get at the relevant drivers through windows so i don't have to seek out a wired modem to set up in linux first? if that makes the slightest bit of sense
[09:11] <gnomefreak> what about in dapper?
[09:11] <padmini> gnome: it's done, finally!
[09:11] <gsuveg> nevermind
[09:11] <roostishaw> unpersom, but when i hit 'add' there are four little boxes, and only the top two are selected...
[09:11] <gnomefreak> padmini: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and kick back it will be a while :)
[09:11] <schasi> hi there
[09:11] <schasi> how can i use a .bin file, with a movie or something else in it?
[09:11] <la_place> what is 'dist-upgrade'?
[09:11] <padmini> gnome: will do!
[09:12] <roostishaw> unperson,  but when i hit 'add' there are four little boxes, and only the top two are selected...
[09:12] <gnomefreak> la_place: dist-upgrade updates the kernel
[09:12] <larson9999> la_place that's much less true these days.  and i think much of that is due to the fact that windows in preinstalled.  one thing i do when i buy a new machine is reformat and reinstall windows.  most always there's something i can't get installed.  i call for support and log the issue and how i resolved it.  try to get some things working as a regular user in windows and the 'ease of use' quickly disappears.
[09:12] <ZephyrXero> dist-upgrade upgrades you to the newest version of the distribution I believe
[09:12] <unperson> roostishaw, So, sorry, let me make sure I have it straight.  You want to add the universe and multiverse repositories.  These are not currently listed in the list of repositories in Synaptic, correct?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> ZephyrXero: nope not unless you make it
[09:12] <lampshade> Anyone here use WPA with linux?
[09:12] <GTX> How do I start a program up with esound like to start program up with alsa i use to type aoss ./program
[09:12] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade alone will only get you newest kernel
[09:13] <la_place> nice feature
[09:13] <gnomefreak> change the repos to different version dist-upgrade will get you newest kernel for new version
[09:13] <la_place> latest stable kernel?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> la_place: 2.6.12-10
[09:13] <roostishaw> unperson, yes, iwant to add  the universe and multiverse repositories. but when i go to select them from the list, then hit ok... it gives me that error message
[09:13] <ZephyrXero> what's the error message?
[09:13] <unperson> roostishaw, Ok, but before you hit add, there should be several things in the list in the repository window.  Normally, I think Universe and Multiverse are already there, but they're labeled a little funny.
[09:13] <TheMafia> I am playing with the vmware image of ubuntu, can someon tell me what the root password is?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> !root
[09:14] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:14] <gnomefreak> la_place: if you tell me what kernel you have i can tell you if its the latest or what is the latest
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> there is none TheMafia
[09:14] <ZephyrXero> TheMafia: you'll have to set it
[09:14] <gnomefreak> uname -r will give you kernel version
[09:14] <TheMafia> thanks for the info
[09:14] <ZephyrXero> TheMafia: type "sudo passwd"
[09:14] <roostishaw> ZephyrXero, were you talking to me?
[09:14] <MrDez> themafia: open terminal, type 'sudo passwd root'
[09:14] <la_place> i think i hav kernal 1.3
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> or learn to do it the right way and use 'sudo' and dont set root password. :P
[09:14] <ZephyrXero> yeah
[09:14] <MrDez> then type ur passwd, then type passwd u want for root
[09:14] <unperson> roostishaw, There should be an entry labeled "Ubuntu 5.10 'Breezy Badger'"
[09:14] <gnomefreak> la_place: not with ubuntu you dont
[09:14] <GTX> /dev/dsp: Input/output error Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[09:14] <GTX> how do I fix that?
[09:14] <larson9999> TheMafia: yeah, 'sudo passwd root'
[09:15] <MrDez> dr_willis: 'sudo' is definitely not the "right" way, its the easy way ;)
[09:15] <unperson> roostishaw, What does it say under that title?  There should be a list of things in smaller type.
[09:15] <lampshade> WPA, anyone?  I know linux falls down on wireless, but someone had to have done this before.  I've installed the wpa supplicant and everything already, yet I can't at all get a DHCP offer from my wireless router
[09:15] <wastrel> !wpa
[09:15] <ubotu> hmm... wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[09:15] <ZephyrXero> Some things don't always work through sudo.... it'd be nice if they did...but what can ya do?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> MrDez,  heck -lets do it the Lindows way! and all be root!
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> :P
[09:15] <larson9999> not sure what the point of locking by default if everyone just unlocks it :)
[09:15] <sarra> was my question too n00by? yow
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ijm concered people cant read things :( su is not recommended on ubuntu
[09:15] <unperson> roostishaw, Specifically we're interested in "Ubuntu 5.10 'Breezy Badger' (Binary)"
[09:16] <la_place> what is the bad factor about ubuntu if there's any
[09:16] <Agrajag> Dr_Willis: I haven't found anything
[09:16] <gnomefreak> s/ijm/im
[09:16] <roostishaw> unperson, it says: Officially supported & under that , resticted copyright
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> Agrajag,  ive 'heard' a few things dont work right. but never seen any.
[09:16] <unperson> roostishaw, That's it?
[09:16] <roostishaw> unperson, thats it...
[09:16] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: installing the newest nvidia driver is what sudo wouldn't do for me
[09:16] <unperson> roostishaw, Select that one, and hit "edit"
[09:16] <Agrajag> Dr_Willis: ten bucks says it's stuff that works just fine if you get a root shell with sudo -i
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  hmm.. ive always done it with sudo.
[09:16] <roostishaw> unperson, ok...
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  and ive instlled it at least a dozen times. on different machines.
[09:17] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: maybe i just couldn't figure it out :)
[09:17] <ZephyrXero> la_place: it's not really meant for customization...you're generally expected to stay with all the defaults given, and also they name packages different things than what they're supposed to, like gedit is called "text editor" and such, and that can be confusing
[09:17] <speyer> hmm why my cpu makes so much noise ? i dont really run many applications ... any ideea ?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> larson9999,  heh - its a 2 line cut/paste.. :P
[09:17] <roostishaw> unperson, the binary, right?
[09:17] <Agrajag> your CPU makes noise?
[09:17] <Agrajag> wow
[09:17] <Agrajag> uh
[09:17] <wastrel> the gedit package is called gedit
[09:17] <gnomefreak> speyer: define making noise?
[09:17] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: well, i'm used to using sudo so maybe i didn't look so hard :)
[09:17] <ZephyrXero> not in synaptic it's not
[09:18] <damo21> what is the dpkg command to configure any unconfigured packages?
[09:18] <la_place> ZephyrXero: yeah.. your right.. i think customizing ubuntu linux is the next thing
[09:18] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: well, i'm used to NOT using sudo so maybe i didn't look so hard :)
[09:18] <gnomefreak> ZephyrXero: its installed already
[09:18] <ZephyrXero> it was an example...
[09:18] <iceman> stinking nvidia driver .... help
[09:18] <wastrel> who uses synaptic :p
[09:18] <unperson> roostishaw, Yes.  In the "sections" box it should say "main restricted".  Add "universe multiverse" to that.
[09:18] <gnomefreak> ZephyrXero: you dont need to install gedit
[09:18] <la_place> how can i list all the debian packages that i've installed?
[09:18] <Astryk> Can I ask a mysql question in here since that channel is all but silent?
[09:18] <Astryk> Pretty basic but it's driving me mad.
[09:18] <unperson> roostishaw, All of those should be separated by spaces.
[09:18] <biovore> la_place: la_place: dpkg -l
[09:18] <gnomefreak> la_place: in synaptic you can see  or you can use dpkg -l i think
[09:18] <roostishaw> unperson, ok...
[09:18] <ZephyrXero> gVim is the same way, it's "Gnome Vim" instead of gvim in the repo
[09:18] <la_place> thanks u
[09:18] <roostishaw> unperson, ok. wait one sec
[09:18] <ZephyrXero> do a search for "gvim" and you get nothing...
[09:18] <speyer> gnomefreak looks like it use the whole memory for something , and it start making noise like a tractor
[09:19] <damo21> dpkg --get selections
[09:19] <iceman> how do i "Reinstall" nvidia drivers ... please help
[09:19] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: also the wiki for installing the nvidia driver uses the '
[09:19] <Agrajag> speyer: linux uses all available memory for disk caching and things like that
[09:19] <roostishaw> unperson, then just hit ok?
[09:19] <unperson> roostishaw, When you're done, click ok and try updating.
[09:19] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: also the wiki for installing the nvidia driver uses the 'un'sudo way
[09:19] <wastrel> ZephyrXero:  apt-cache search gvim lists the packages
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> root@amd64:/home/willis# apt-cache search gvim
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> vim-gnome - Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI
[09:19] <unperson> roostishaw, Sorry, I'm slow.  :-)
[09:19] <gnomefreak> speyer: ps aux should give you whats running and the mem it using
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:19] <ZephyrXero> wastrel: if I wanted to play with the commandline I would of stuck with Gentoo ;)
[09:19] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: gtk-vin-gnome :)
[09:20] <GTX> /dev/dsp: Input/output error Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> :P
[09:20] <gnomefreak> vim*
[09:20] <GTX> how do I fix this guyd
[09:20] <GTX> guys*
[09:20] <damo21> GTX is that with skype?
[09:20] <GTX> damo21, no ET game
[09:20] <speyer> Agraja disk , u mean hard disk  ?
[09:20] <lampshade> wastrel, Thanks for not reading my  message at all and just sending me to the bot when I clearly said that I had already installed WPA supplicant and configed it.  Thanks though
[09:20] <Agrajag> speyer: yes
[09:20] <unperson> roostishaw, Actually, after you hit ok, is should now say something about Universe and Multiverse in that entry in the repositories list.
[09:21] <wastrel> lampshade:  i don't know anything about wpa, and i didn't know what hte bot would say, i thought it might be useful for you
[09:21] <Agrajag> if you use the "free" command and look on the line that says "+/- cache" or something like that you can see what's really in use
[09:21] <damo21> GTX i think Seveas has a package to fix that... skype-dsp-hijacker or something
[09:21] <gnomefreak> !wpa
[09:21] <ubotu> well, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[09:21] <jsestri2> !sound
[09:21] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:21] <GTX> Seveas,  ?
[09:21] <uber_spaced> how do I mount a palm pilot?
[09:21] <uber_spaced> i.e.
[09:21] <Cryptid> I have to install my nvidia drivers and it is asking me to exit from X how do i do that????
[09:22] <speyer> Agrajag  aint the first time i run linux :) my machine its cool and never made noise like this ;( looks like there is something wrong
[09:22] <uber_spaced> mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?
[09:22] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  mount the internal memory card?
[09:22] <uber_spaced> anybody know the device off hand?
[09:22] <damo21> GTX -> google "seveas ubuntu"
[09:22] <uber_spaced> wastrel, sure, that will be a good start
[09:22] <Agrajag> speyer: well, is the noise coming from a hard disk, or a fan?
[09:22] <ecarroll> When I do a dist-upgrade am i any better at all throwing the system to init 1?
[09:22] <triablo_> Hello,does anybody know where to find this package: libstdc++.so.5 ???
[09:22] <GTX> damo21, cant find nothing
[09:22] <ecarroll> triablo_: apt-cache search libstdc++
[09:22] <dibbon> I get this error when I open synaptic, and I can't find the codecs I need to play mp3s and other media files ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8898 )
[09:23] <speyer> Agrajag from the fan
[09:23] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  you mean sync or mount the internal memory card?  is it a usb palm?  with hotplug my usb device appears once i hit the hotsync button on the palm
[09:23] <Agrajag> which fan? the CPU fan?
[09:23] <Agrajag> could be a bad bearing
[09:23] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  and you can't mount the memory card without support for that on the palm device
[09:23] <uber_spaced> wastrel, where does it mount to?  what entry in the dev folder?
[09:23] <ecarroll> dibbon: Ignore the error, remove all lines with 'backport' out of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:24] <unperson> roostishaw, Any luck?
[09:25] <cyphase> yay! Flight 4
[09:25] <uber_spaced> wastrel, ok ok.  I'll go into KDE and try it.
[09:25] <Synneva> dibbon: What Ubuntu verison are you running ?
[09:25] <speyer> Agrajag yes the CPU fan
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, k... one sec
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, np, thanks for ur help... wait one sec, ill try it
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, here is waht it says: The repository information has changes. A backup copy of your sources.list is stored in /etc/apt/sources.list.save.
[09:25] <roostishaw> You need to reload the package list from the servers for your changes to take effect. Do you want to do this now?
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, ya, it did
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, then i hit ok
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, now do i hit yes or no?
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, The repository information has changes. A backup copy of your sources.list is stored in /etc/apt/sources.list.save.
[09:25] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: yes
[09:25] <roostishaw> You need to reload the package list from the servers for your changes to take effect. Do you want to do this now?
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, You need to reload the package list from the servers for your changes to take effect. Do you want to do this now?
[09:25] <roostishaw> unperson, yes or no?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:26] <roostishaw> unperson, ya, it say if i want to update 'sources.list' ... yes or no?
[09:26] <roostishaw> now it says, "Downloading package info."
[09:26] <flodine> are there nvidia drivers for 64 bit ubuntu
[09:26] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: any changes you make to you sources you need to reload
[09:26] <roostishaw> unperson, now it says, "Downloading package info."
[09:26] <unperson> roostishaw, Yes, you'll have to.
[09:27] <roostishaw> unperson, ok... its downloading
[09:27] <iceman> how do i reconfigur glx... it will not install .. or run
[09:27] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  /dev/USB0 for me... it depends on whether usb devices are already plugged in
[09:27] <unperson> roostishaw, The "sources.list" is a text file (/etc/apt/sources.list) that stores all your repository settings.
[09:27] <iceman> !glx
[09:27] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iceman
[09:27] <OmegaAlpha> is there a way to get a log of what was downloaded/installed via terminal?
[09:27] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  er /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:27] <omerix> now i'm in Gdm, gnome desktop manager, i couldn't login as a user. i added another user, i haven't logined in yet, plesase help me
[09:27] <roostishaw> unperson, oh, ok
[09:27] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[09:27] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  tail -f /var/log/messages  - that should show you when you hit hotsync what's going on....
[09:27] <roostishaw> unperson,  will i have to do this to the source one too?
[09:28] <jsestri2> anyone know their sound in ubuntu?
[09:28] <iceman> i cannot get glx to work ... help
[09:28] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anyone familiar with the automatix?
[09:28] <vasP_L> why can I only use one application with sound at a time? :\
[09:28] <unperson> roostishaw, Well...only if you want to apt-get sources.  But yeah, it's probably not a bad idea.
[09:28] <gnomefreak> Inf3ctedFx: dont use it
[09:28] <wastrel> iceman nvidia or ati
[09:28] <Inf3ctedFx> why gnomefreak
[09:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Inf3ctedFx about automatix
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Inf3ctedFx: read the pm
[09:29] <flodine> are there nvidia drivers for 64 bit ubuntu
[09:29] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[09:29] <jsestri2> i am having trouble getting sound to work, it seems to have recognized my sound card, but there is still a missing link somewhere, any help?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Inf3ctedFx: that will screw your system up faster than a 3yearold :(
[09:29] <roostishaw> unperson, some of the downloads are failing... i hit "show individual downloads"
[09:29] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh oks
[09:29] <adub> still  slow typing
[09:29] <Inf3ctedFx> thx for the advice
[09:29] <uber_spaced> wastrel, i'll take a look into it.
[09:29] <unperson> roostishaw, Anyway, I think the error you were getting was because you were essentially trying to add the same repository all over again, when yuo really just needed to edit the existing ones to get different sections of it.
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Inf3ctedFx: use easysource instead
[09:29] <uber_spaced> thanks.
[09:30] <Cryptid> How do i exit from ???? i have to install NVidia drivers and the installation shows a error saying that i have to quite from X to be able to install the drivers so how do i exit from X????
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm happy cuz Ubuntu wornk fine with my wireless card xD
[09:30] <Cryptid> !X
[09:30] <ubotu> well, x is a portable, network-transparent window system.
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> easysource?
[09:30] <damo21> does frostwire have any spyware crap with it?
[09:30] <unperson> roostishaw, I see.  Which ones are failing?
[09:30] <duncanh-home> just installed ubuntu, and wanted to slim it down some since the laptop is rather short of space. So I started to eliminate packages with synaptics. big packages like evolution, openoffice and gimp that I'll never use. and each time it said that removing these would remove a package called ubuntu-desktop, which I guess is some meta-package. What is ubuntu-dektop and can I safely eliminate these packages?
[09:30] <ZephyrXer0> got disconected so I don't know if this ever went out.... How do I access the GDM settings dialogue in dapper?
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> can I get that one gnomefreak  from apt-get?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Inf3ctedFx about easyubuntu
[09:30] <roostishaw> unperson, here is what i got... "The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences."
[09:30] <gnomefreak> Inf3ctedFx: sorry its easyubuntu and read your pm
[09:30] <roostishaw> unperson, "ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to ftp.free.fr:21 (213.228.0.141), connection timed out"
[09:30] <wastrel> duncanh-home:  it's safe to remove- it's just a wrapper to pull down useful desktopy stuff all at once
[09:30] <vasP_L> yes you can duncanh-home
[09:30] <lampshade> Anyone use WPA with their wireless?  After doing the whole wpa supplicant crap, what do you do to actually bring up your interface?  I got nothing
[09:31] <duncanh-home> ok, good. thanks
[09:31] <Inf3ctedFx> oks
[09:31] <speyer> Agrajag so, any ideea ?
[09:31] <Inf3ctedFx> thx again gnomefreak  last question.. can I upgrade mi Firefox using apt-get or synaptic? or do I have to do ir manually?
[09:31] <damo21> lampshade, you might have to run "sudo iwpriv authmode 2 or 3"
[09:31] <Cryptid> Mordof, Dude how do i exit from X?????
[09:31] <dyrne> Cryptid: alt-ctrl-f1 through f8 once login then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:31] <gnomefreak> you cant use apt for ff1.5
[09:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Inf3ctedFx about ff1.5
[09:32] <vasP> why can I only use one application with sound at a time? (cant find the audiodriver crash.. gnome-sounds cant run while f.x xmms, or vlc, neither xmms while vlc, opera while xmms .. and so on)
[09:32] <lampshade> damo21, what's that do?
[09:32] <Agrajag> speyer: well, you can try to fix it
[09:32] <thomas_> How do i install TeamSpeak?
[09:32] <Mordof> Cryptid, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop or kdm if you are in KDE
[09:32] <gnomefreak> again your pm :)
[09:32] <thomas_> How do i install TeamSpeak?
[09:32] <speyer> Agrajag hell yeah :)
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> thx gnomefreak
[09:32] <gnomefreak> !info teamspeak
[09:32] <adub> URGENT:  please someone help me my laptops keyboard is  slllllllllllllllow   <-------------           it took 5 minutes to type that
[09:32] <lampshade> damo21, yeah that command does nothing for me.
[09:32] <thomas_> !Info teamspeak
[09:32] <unperson> roostishaw, I see.  Let me check something.
[09:32] <ZephyrXer0> Does anyone know how to access the GDM settings dialogue in dapper? It's not in the Gnome>System>Administration menu anymore, and GDM won't accept my user password nor root password from it either :(
[09:32] <thomas_> uhh
[09:32] <gnomefreak> thomas_: its not known by the bot
[09:32] <thomas_> Yes
[09:32] <thomas_> but teamspeak can be installed
[09:33] <wastrel> thomas_:  follow the instructions on the teamspeak website?
[09:33] <Agrajag> speyer: I forget what kind of oil you need, but I think some kind of heavy weight oil can be used, you take the sticker off the top of it and carefully drip it in, then spin it around a bit to get the excess oil out before re-mounting it
[09:33] <gnomefreak> thomas_: i was cheking to se eif it was
[09:33] <dyrne> ZephyrXer0: maybe easier to sudo gdmsetup
[09:33] <Cryptid> dyrne, seee i hit ctrl+alt+f1 then i was take into only text mode(terminal) from there what do i do???
[09:33] <thomas_> How do i run a .sh file?
[09:33] <Agrajag> or you could just replace the fan
[09:33] <gnomefreak> sh file.sh
[09:33] <ZephyrXer0> is that the command for it? thank :D
[09:33] <damo21> lampshade, you might have to run "sudo iwpriv <interface name> authmode  3"
[09:33] <thomas_> .sh
[09:33] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with geting my sound to work?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> thomas_: you type sh filename.sh
[09:33] <dyrne> Cryptid: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then start or restart to well start it :)
[09:33] <Agrajag> speyer: If you're still using the stock HSF, it may be worth it to get a new, quieter one
[09:33] <thomas_> sh file.sh
[09:33] <jsestri2> whois crimsun
[09:33] <navarone> Agrajag if you mean for heatsink fan or fan in general i would use sewinf machine or oil for an electric razor
[09:33] <gnomefreak> crimsun is a person that comes in this room
[09:33] <ZephyrXer0> well that was weird, it popped up for a second then crashed with a gLibC error :/
[09:34] <unperson> roostishaw, it looks like those errors are for a PLF repository, not the Universe or Muliverse.
[09:34] <vasP> why can I only use one application with sound at a time? (other apps work, just without sound)
[09:34] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: i was trying to run the whois command to see if he was on
[09:34] <Agrajag> navarone: yeah, heatsink fan, speyer's is making noises
[09:34] <dyrne> ZephyrXer0: try gksudo gdmsetup maybe
[09:34] <gnomefreak> jsestri2: type /whois crimsun
[09:34] <unperson> roostishaw, I don't use the PLF repository right now, so I don't know much about it.
[09:34] <navarone> speyer...I would just replace it...oil is just gonna work until oil eiter dries out again or evaporates
[09:34] <elfstone> noise = breaking bearings, more oil will fix it for a while, but that's not a definitive solution in my book
[09:34] <jsestri2> gnomefreak: yeah i just dropped the / by mistake...he helped me out with me sound some
[09:34] <gnomefreak> plf repo has been down since this am not sure if its back up
[09:34] <bdawg> can anyone help ne
[09:34] <lampshade> damo21, Nothing, what's this command supposed to do anyway?
[09:34] <elfstone> so, yes, i'd replace the fan
[09:34] <troy> does anyone know how to install games such as Call of Duty 2?
[09:34] <navarone> speyer I recently replaced heatsink and four chassis fans
[09:34] <ZephyrXer0> dyrne: nope, crashed again :( ...guess I'll have to wait for a new update
[09:35] <Agrajag> yeah, a new HSF will be so much quieter than the stock one, even if it was working right
[09:35] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with getting sound to work?
[09:35] <dyrne> ZephyrXer0: heh good luck :)
[09:35] <speyer> navarone well its not a old one , i buy it last year
[09:35] <regeya> !tell jsestri2 about ask
[09:35] <iceman> how do i uninstall and reinstall the Nvidia driver
[09:35] <gnomefreak> later all time to study for test tomorrow
[09:35] <bdawg> i am ner to ubuntu i am in it now.. i dont know waht to do how can i get a guide in linux?
[09:35] <elfstone> speyer, some fans only last for a year or so
[09:35] <ZephyrXer0> dyrne: guess I'll go see if there's a bug report for it yet...
[09:35] <wastrel> ubotu tell bdawg about rute
[09:35] <damuhatori> I just recently installed ubunto 5.10 and the computer hangs after it displays "Starting hotplug subsystem"
[09:35] <elfstone> speyer, if you want long life fans, you've got to look for dual ball bearings
[09:36] <navarone> speyer while machine case is open you should vacuum dust out as well
[09:36] <vasP> why can I only use one application with sound at a time? (one app blocks the soundcard...)
[09:36] <dyrne> bdawg: best place for guides wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <elfstone> damuhatori, boot with nohotplug or something
[09:36] <iceman> i can use the defauld nv driver, but not the nvidia driver so i have no glx
[09:36] <iceman> help
[09:36] <jsestri2> I have gotten ubuntu to recognize my onboard audio, but there seems to be another missing link to get it to make noise. Any suggestions?
[09:36] <regeya> ubotu tell bdawg about root
[09:36] <bdawg> how can i get to the page in ubuntu
[09:36] <bdawg> im confused
[09:36] <iceman> !nvidia
[09:36] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:36] <wastrel> vasP:  do you have sound server set in  system > preferences > sound  ?
[09:36] <elfstone> !tell iceman about nvia
[09:36] <elfstone> !tell iceman about nvidia
[09:36] <damuhatori> elfstone, How can I boot like that?
[09:36] <regeya> what page bdawg
[09:36] <regeya> insane
[09:37] <bdawg> how can i read a guide in ubuntu
[09:37] <iceman> been trying that
[09:37] <bdawg>  i dont knwo waht to do
[09:37] <bdawg> except get on irc
[09:37] <dyrne> iceman: you could try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia
[09:37] <bdawg> im new
[09:37] <navarone> jsestri2, first thing to check would be alsamixer in terminal and see if sound sources are muted
[09:37] <vasP> wastrel, didnt quite understand
[09:37] <bdawg> whats the root password?
[09:37] <elfstone> damuhatori... that's an option of the lilo or grub bootloader, whatever you use
[09:37] <wastrel> bdawg:  applications > internet  for web browsers
[09:37] <vasP> the card is found, have alsa/oss/and so on...drivers
[09:37] <Cryptid> dyrne, which version of gcc was used to compile the kernel of Ubuntu 5.10??? ( hope what i am asking makes ne sence ;-P)
[09:37] <elfstone> damuhatori, just after the bios, you can enter options
[09:38] <dyrne> bdawg: root is disabled use sudo and your pass sudo -i for root terminal
[09:38] <wastrel> vasP:   system > preferences > sound    there's a checkbox for sound server
[09:38] <bdawg> i type that wastrel ?
[09:38] <jsestri2> navarone: any syntax to that? i just tried that and it says "alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[09:38] <jsestri2> "
[09:38] <speyer> navarone yeah i will try that
[09:38] <speyer> thanks
[09:38] <navarone> bdawg password for sudo is same as user pass...if you ar eusing user first created during install
[09:38] <flodine> are there nvidia drivers for 64 bit ubuntu
[09:38] <wastrel> bdawg:  it's in the menus at the top of the screen.  are you running gnome?
[09:38] <bdawg> how do i run gnome?
[09:38] <dyrne> Cryptid: youre installing nvida drivers?
[09:38] <navarone> jsestri2, alsamixer should be all if you have everything installed
[09:38] <elfstone> dammit, people, don't you know how to use google ?
[09:39] <wastrel> bdawg:  you are on the command line - no graphic user interface?
[09:39] <bdawg> ya command line
[09:39] <iceman> there a apt-get reinstall command .. to reinstall
[09:39] <bdawg>  how do i get gui
[09:39] <jsestri2> navarone: aparently something is broken then...any ideas where to go from here?
[09:39] <vasP> wastrel, haven got english ubuntu, but is it something like "turn on sound server"? (rough translation from norwegian :)
[09:39] <elfstone> bdawg, apt-get install gnome gdm   and restart computer
[09:39] <wastrel> vasP:  that sounds right...
[09:39] <ecarroll> thats not right
[09:39] <ecarroll> unless you want all gnome packages.
[09:39] <vasP> wastrel, yes it is on
[09:39] <iceman> i need ro remove and then reinstall  nvidia-settings
[09:39] <ecarroll> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <navarone> jsestri try lspci | grep audio in terminala nd paste output...you can paste here if only a line
[09:40] <bdawg> then come back?
[09:40] <jsestri2> navarone: if i look in the volume controll: it correctly identifies my onboard audio chip...i don't know if that helps
[09:40] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anyone knows how to install EasyUbuntu?
[09:40] <Cryptid> dyrne, yes it asking me to compile some kernel all over agaiin( actually it says that it will do it and then it suddenly quit saying that some cc path some shit some shit... bhl bhla bhla and it needs the same version gcc that was used to compile the version of kernel i am running
[09:40] <ecarroll> ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that will have everything you need.
[09:40] <unix_infidel> anyone with any idea bout my problem here, after i started using startx instead of kdm to log into fluxbox i've gotten somethings to work yet all my fonts in various other apps in fluxbox arent anti-alias....
[09:40] <elfstone> yes, with half of gnome missing ? :)
[09:40] <unix_infidel> i cant seem to figure ot why this is true.
[09:41] <navarone> jsestri2, in System/preferences.Sound make sure the box enable sound server is unchecked
[09:41] <elfstone> i don't see the reason of installing the gnome beast without fully installing it
[09:41] <iceman> how to remove  nvidia-settings ... and reinstall
[09:41] <dyrne> Cryptid: easiest way other than the wiki is:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia
[09:41] <wastrel> vasP:  ok...  i don't know :]   check here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:41] <uber_spaced> Ok, the hotsync thing worked, but now I cant find a way to transfer files to the palm; it says that it can play mp3s, but kpiilot wont let me put them on there.
[09:41] <jsestri2> navarone: ok that was checked...do i need a reboot?
[09:41] <uber_spaced> ( wastrel  )
[09:41] <vasP> wastrel, thanx anyway =)
[09:41] <navarone> jsestri I think so...no harm in doing it unless you are one who micromanages uptime...<s>
[09:42] <iceman> how to "Apt-get" reinstall  nvidia-settings
[09:42] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  i think for mp3's you need to put them on the removable media
[09:42] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  kpilot can only sync over palm databases
[09:42] <bdawg> elf
[09:42] <OmegaAlpha> unix_infidel, you can try asking in #fluxbox and #fluxbox-chitchat if you cant find help in here
[09:42] <wastrel> uber_spaced:  best bet is to get a flash card/sd card reader
[09:42] <uber_spaced> wastrel, I see; so i'll probably need a card reader or something...
[09:42] <uber_spaced> hmm.
[09:42] <unix_infidel> OmegaAlpha: already tried.
[09:42] <uber_spaced> thanks.
[09:42] <ecarroll> elfstone: Because the gnome beast comes with packages that are not essential to the average users desktop-experience, which app does gnome have that ubuntu-desktop lacks, that you want?
[09:42] <unix_infidel> itsa distro specific problem.
[09:43] <uber_spaced> wastrel, again, thanks.
[09:43] <wastrel> np
[09:43] <bdawg> i did the apt get thing and got a error
[09:43] <dyrne> bdawg: what error?
[09:43] <bdawg> lock?
[09:43] <bdawg> or something
[09:43] <Gnumannen> how do I change the locale values (eg. LC_ALL)? Running server...
[09:43] <alexises> helle
[09:43] <bdawg> cannot open lock file?
[09:44] <dyrne> bdawg: is synaptic open? if so youll have to close before you can apt-get
[09:44] <alexises> do you speak french
[09:44] <navarone> ecarroll, I am not sure what gnome beast your efer to but afaik ubuntu-desktop is based on gnome
[09:44] <unperson> roostishaw, So the universe/multiverse issue is sorted out anyway?
[09:44] <topyli> bdawg: you have another apt or synaptic running
[09:44] <bdawg> where?
[09:44] <ecarroll> navarone: Ubuntu-desktop references things gnome doesn't, and gnome refrefrences useless utilities ubuntu-desktop doesn't. they are both meta-packages.
[09:44] <alexises> i can't install e17 help me
[09:44] <bdawg> ok whas the command to install gui
[09:45] <dyrne> bdawg: just killall synaptic and then killall apt-get and try again
[09:45] <thomas_> YAYYY!YY!
[09:45] <ecarroll> navarone: when one referes to the Ubuntu, they typically refer to the ubuntu-desktop, which is what the default install will give you.
[09:45] <thomas_> TEAMSPEKA INSTALLED
[09:45] <thomas_> YAYY
[09:45] <ecarroll> refers*
[09:45] <PDani> hi
[09:45] <bdawg> says no process killed dyrne
[09:46] <jsestri2> navarone: same problem still happens when i run alsamixer
[09:46] <PDani> can i install somehow the nvidia binary kernel-modules from repository?
[09:46] <PDani> if the answer is yes, which package?
[09:46] <navarone> jsestri2, did you perform normal install?
[09:46] <wastrel> ubotu tell pdani about nvidia
[09:46] <dyrne> bdawg: what were you trying to apt-get?
[09:47] <bdawg> i just want to read a guide and i cant
[09:47] <bdawg> because i am still in command line
[09:47] <dyrne> bdawg: you want xfce or gnome or kde?
[09:47] <navarone> bdawg have you got xserver installed?
[09:47] <dyrne> bdawg: gui
[09:47] <jsestri2> navarone: i had a normal install, but the hotplug subsystem was hanging at startup, i talked to one guy for a bit and he pointed me in the direction of turning on the universe repositories then updateing alsa
[09:47] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to enable direct rendering with ATI?
[09:47] <bdawg> i dont know what i have installed i jsut used cd but it stopped at 83
[09:47] <bdawg> %
[09:47] <bdawg> dyrne:
[09:47] <bdawg> what evers the best
[09:48] <jsestri2> navarone: that fixed the hotplug issue, but now i have nothing once in gnome
[09:48] <GTX> how do I minimize a program full screen
[09:48] <GTX> on ubuntu
[09:48] <navarone> jsestri try running synaptic or update manager and see if you have any avaialble updates
[09:48] <dyrne> bdawg: well then prob sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <GTX> how do I minimize a program which was full screen
[09:48] <bdawg> im not in sudo
[09:48] <OmegaAlpha> GTX,  i would like to know that myself for my games ...
[09:48] <ecarroll> typically F11
[09:48] <navarone> jsestri2, by nothing you mean no sound?
[09:48] <GTX> indeed OmegaAlpha
[09:48] <GTX> hehe
[09:49] <bdawg> password dyrne?
[09:49] <dyrne> bdawg: are you able to boot computer and login to console?
[09:49] <bdawg> ya
[09:49] <GTX> ecarroll, That doesnt work
[09:49] <bdawg>  i typed the desktop
[09:49] <dyrne> bdawg: password will be your user pass
[09:49] <bdawg> and it asks for passwork
[09:49] <quentin> hello
[09:49] <ecarroll> If the program is full screen as in Ut2k4 there is no way to remove that without restarting the game, some toolkits, require control over the whole display
[09:49] <dyrne> bdawg: you might get an error
[09:49] <bdawg> rebuilding database
[09:49] <jsestri2> navarone: well i cant get any sound to come out, but it appears to have recognized the name of my onboard audio
[09:50] <dyrne> bdawg: insert cd or something
[09:50] <quentin> je ne sais pas si ceux qui m'ont aider tout a l'heure sont encore la mais si oui : j'ai rinstaller ubuntu sur kubuntu
[09:50] <quentin> lol
[09:50] <wastrel> jsestri2:  stupid question - did you try unmuting channels in alsamixer?  (sorry it's a reflex at this point)
[09:50] <bdawg> dyrne:  it says rebuilding database
[09:50] <wastrel> quentin:  #ubuntu-fr  ?
[09:50] <bdawg> setting up scroll keeper?
[09:50] <Gnumannen> how do I change the locale values (eg. LC_ALL)? Running server and textbased and I need to change it for GCC to work.
[09:50] <navarone> jsestri try synaptic and search for alsamixer or just alsa and see what turns up. You should be able to use alsamixer in terminal if it is installed properly
[09:50] <quentin> oups dosl
[09:50] <dyrne> bdawg: should be installing then
[09:50] <quentin> lol j'avais aps vu
[09:51] <ecarroll> Gnumannen: locale
[09:51] <navarone> !fr
[09:51] <jsestri2> navarone: i went into synaptic package manager...the only alsa things i have installed are: alsa-base, alsa-modules, alsa-source, alsa-utils   all of which are up-to-date
[09:51] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:51] <dyrne> bdawg: fingers crossed :)
[09:51] <quentin> ++
[09:51] <bdawg> how long does it take
[09:51] <jsestri2> navarone: my alsamixer wont start...
[09:51] <bdawg> registering
[09:51] <bdawg> documents
[09:51] <dyrne> bdawg: depends on your connection speed and computer it can take a while
[09:51] <Gnumannen> ecarroll: that just tell me the values, I am not able to cahnge them.
[09:51] <navarone> jsestri2, what chip for onboard sound? nvidia?
[09:52] <bdawg> it said settting up and its back to a command line dyrne
[09:52] <GTX> how do I minimize a program which was full screen
[09:52] <bdawg> what do i do now
[09:52] <_jason> GTX: alt+f9
[09:52] <jsestri2> navarone: realtek ALC880 (it says OSS Mixer near it)
[09:52] <jsestri2> navarone: when i say near it, i mean in the volume control
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> hey guys can I download the ATI video drivers from apt-get?
[09:53] <navarone> jsestri2, in System/Preferences/MultimediaSelector try changing output and input to oss
[09:53] <bdawg> dyrne: its done now what?
[09:53] <wastrel> ubotu tell Inf3ctedFx about ati
[09:53] <dyrne> bdawg: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start this prob wont work but try it
[09:53] <OmegaAlpha> nice i need to remember that alt-f9 damn flight simulator took up my who screen
[09:53] <PDani> my problem is: i installed linux-restricted-modules-386, nvidia-glx, and i ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, depmod -ae, update-modules, but i can't find the binary nvidia driver on the output of modprobe -l
[09:53] <lampshade> Inf3ctedFx, I just installed them, but not using apt, I did the other method so that I could have the latest of the drivers.(Which includes better hibernation support-- a must have on my laptop)
[09:53] <Gnumannen> ecarroll: aren't they stored in a file somewhere?
[09:53] <jsestri2> navarone: is there a good way to test the sound?
[09:53] <jsestri2> navarone: or just try to play some file?
[09:53] <thomas_> HEY
[09:53] <navarone> jsestri2, play a sound file...<s>
[09:53] <thomas_> Someone told me to type rm /r
[09:53] <eodchop> My work has asked me to build a web page for them. Can anyone suggest how to go about doing this? I am completely green on web page design
[09:53] <thomas_> Should i do it?
[09:53] <PDani> any idea?
[09:53] <thomas_> Should i
[09:54] <_jason> thomas_: what do you want to do?
[09:54] <ecarroll> Gnumannen: man locale-gen
[09:54] <bdawg> dyrne: failed
[09:54] <Gnumannen> ecarroll: okey
[09:54] <ecarroll> or setlocale if you have it
[09:54] <thomas_> Someone told me to type rm /r
[09:54] <wastrel> jsestri2:  i think  cat /dev/dsp is traditional
[09:54] <jrr> because it got dugg (digg.net'd), http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/ is really slow.  any alternatives?
[09:54] <_jason> thomas_: okay... but what are you trying to do?
[09:54] <albacker> thomas_, never do this:       rm -rf /
[09:54] <OmegaAlpha> Inf3ctedFx, its more complicated than just downloading and installing the driver.
[09:55] <derek_> Hi! I found that the default ubuntu install does not read ~/.xinitrc   Does anybody know how to execute commands using GDM?
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> why OmegaAlpha
[09:55] <Falstius> albacker: yeah, it should be sudo rm -rf /
[09:55] <dyrne> bdawg: it might be easier to reboot with install cd and at boot> prompt type server and enter then go back through install.  that should install fine and then you could apt-get install ubuntu-desktop again
[09:55] <flodine> man some please help me get nvidia driver installed
[09:55] <nuu> hey room
[09:55] <PDani> so?
[09:55] <jsestri2> navarone: still nothing
[09:55] <cafuego> ecarroll: Install 'nvu' to create 'em by hand, or a content management system to make life easier in the long run.
[09:55] <albacker> Falstius, :) lol..
[09:55] <wastrel> jrr:  did you try the torrent?
[09:55] <OmegaAlpha> Inf3ctedFx, i use ATI and i finally get my GLX extension error fixed but i still cant get direct rendering enabled.. it still comes up as MESA too
[09:55] <nuu> does anyone know how to install the win32 codecs in kaffine
[09:55] <albacker> Falstius, no its : sudo ls / | xargs rm -rf
[09:55] <ecarroll> cafuego: What am i creating by hand?
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[09:56] <bdawg> allright thanks dyrne
[09:56] <bdawg> ill be back
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> hey OmegaAlpha  do u know about EasyUbuntu?
[09:56] <amongreldog> hi .all
[09:56] <cafuego> ecarroll: Nothing, stupid tab :-P
[09:56] <bdawg> hopefully it works
[09:56] <OmegaAlpha> Inf3ctedFx, no what is it?
[09:56] <dyrne> bdawg: good luck
[09:56] <glick> hey the nvidia drivers
[09:56] <glick> id like to use them cause i have some transparent stuff on my desktop
[09:56] <glick> and id like a nice screen saver
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> a program it helps u to donwload codes for win media player and more...
[09:57] <navarone> jsestri2, are you using an Abit motherboard?
[09:57] <glick> but i heard it causes crashes n stuff
[09:57] <glick> mem leaks
[09:57] <flodine> first time ive been in ubuntu and no help
[09:57] <glick> is that true?
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> someone from here told me to download it
[09:57] <sword> hey have you guys had any problems with firefox crashing?
[09:57] <jsestri2> navarone: ASUS
[09:57] <flodine> holy shit'
[09:57] <glick> or is it stable enough to use?
[09:57] <sword> im using 1.5 on ubuntu and it sometimes crashes when i try to save pictures
[09:57] <flodine> nvidia drivers
[09:57] <thomas_> Someone told me to type rm /r
[09:57] <sword> anyone else experience that?
[09:57] <thomas_> Should i
[09:57] <glick> flodine, yeah
[09:57] <navarone> jsestri2, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82205
[09:57] <albacker> thomas_, what do you want to do?
[09:57] <wastrel> sword:  mine crashes when totem plugin is running and i hit back button
[09:58] <dyrne> glick: you might have trouble installing them most people dont, but ive never really had stability problems
[09:58] <albacker> thomas_, what did you ask the guy for so that he told you to type that ?
[09:58] <navarone> jsestri2, you may need to enable sound in the bios
[09:58] <flodine> glick just need the command for nvidia glx for 64 bit
[09:58] <ncp_> is ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 an older version? i can see on ubuntu's site that 5.10 is released but dont know what version im running, anyway to see that?
[09:58] <sword> wastrel, you don't use the mplayer plugin?
[09:58] <OmegaAlpha> Inf3ctedFx, oh i dont use win media player.. i just use mplayer and the w32 codecs
[09:58] <glick> flodine, oh cant help you, im stuck on 32 bit still :)
[09:58] <jsestri2> navarone: im pretty sure thats exactly what i did...
[09:58] <wastrel> sword:  i do now :] 
[09:58] <sword> i just dont want to be in the middle of an online quiz or something and it crashes all of asudden!
[09:58] <albacker> ncp_, uname -a
[09:58] <glick> !nvidia
[09:58] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:59] <exile2129> Hi, I installed the amd64 version of ubuntu and for some reason I cannot run Synaptic; any ideas?
[09:59] <albacker> no it shows the kernel onlu :S
[09:59] <albacker> only *
[09:59] <_jason> exile2129: what happens when you try
[09:59] <Inf3ctedFx> OmegaAlpha,    easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubunt
[09:59] <exile2129> nothing happens
[09:59] <jsestri2> navarone: that is already done
[09:59] <ubuntu> do you understand taiwan?
[09:59] <cafuego> !easyubuntu
[09:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[09:59] <ncp_> albacker, Linux home 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 11:15:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux don't say anyting about 5.10
[09:59] <merp> Dude...  I'm trying to do a dpkg -i for ndiswrapper.  The modules package says I need the utils package and the utils package says I need the modules package.
[09:59] <exile2129> _jason, nothing happens
[09:59] <merp> And --force doesn't work.
[10:00] <thomas_> Someone told me to type rm /r
[10:00] <thomas_> should i
[10:00] <jsestri2> navarone: alsamixer shouldnt crash the way it does...maybe alsa is broken somehow?
[10:00] <thomas_> or is it bad?
[10:00] <cafuego> merp: Install both simultaneously.
[10:00] <_jason> exile2129: open a terminal (app menu > accessories > terminal) and type 'sudo echo hi', what happens?
[10:00] <wastrel> thomas_:  rm /r will do nothing
[10:00] <GregAsche> i think I have java installed... but how come it doesn't work in firefox
[10:00] <merp> cafuego, how do I do that?
[10:00] <_jason> thomas_: rm /r will delete the r file in /
[10:00] <sword> ok i need to eat something
[10:00] <glick> isnt nvidia a ubuntu package?
[10:00] <exile2129> _jason, im not running ubuntu right now
[10:00] <wastrel> thomas_:  unless you have a file named r in your root directory and the permissions are set so you can remove it
[10:00] <OmegaAlpha> will easy ubuntu fix my direct rendering problem?
[10:01] <cafuego> merp: sudo dpkg -i <file1.deb <file2.deb> <...>
[10:01] <navarone> jsestri2, are you able to change output/input to alsa?
[10:01] <_jason> exile2129: then it is going to be hard to troubleshoot
[10:01] <merp> Ok.
[10:01] <merp> Thanks, sir.
[10:01] <jsestri2> navarone: yes via Multimedia systems selector
[10:01] <exile2129> _jason, ill be back on then later
[10:01] <navarone> jsestri try that
[10:01] <jsestri2> navarone: to what?
[10:01] <navarone> to alsa
[10:02] <abk> hello all
[10:02] <jsestri2> navarone: same error in alsamixer
[10:02] <damned|home> hi all. what gcc version is better to use for kernel recompiling?
[10:02] <merp> cafuego:  Same problem.
[10:02] <navarone> jsestri2, can you paste error from mixer?
[10:02] <merp> Just longer error.
[10:02] <speyer> navarone looks like only when i fire up firefox my cpu fan make noise , soon i minimise the firefox window or switch to other desktop it stops
[10:02] <jsestri2> navarone: "alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument"
[10:02] <jdumont> okay... i installed thunderbird.  but when i click on a link in a web page, evolution setup pops up.  how do i make thunderbird the default app?  through firefox or linux?
[10:02] <damuhatori> Anybody have an idea of why my system hangs up (during boot) "Starting Hotplug Subsystem..."
[10:03] <damuhatori> And how to fix it >_>
[10:03] <abk> my latest problem: I have *almost* gotten Wine up and running. I run it and it complains that lit can't find libwine.1.so. The wine wiki says "make sure x path is included in LD_LIBRARY_PATH". What in the world is a LD_LIBRARY_PATH and how do I edit it?
[10:03] <Brumac> Is ubunto compat with ATi Radeon 9000?
[10:04] <IdleOne> !ati
[10:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:04] <tbaa> abk "whereis libwine.1.so" does it say anything?
[10:04] <wastrel> jdumont:  check system > preferences > preferred applications
[10:04] <navarone> jsestri2, try amixer and see if that works
[10:04] <jdumont> thx
[10:04] <dyrne> Brumac: 9000 should work pretty well anything
[10:04] <jsestri2> navarone: "amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument
[10:04] <jsestri2> "
[10:05] <navarone> hmm
[10:05] <dyrne> Brumac: under 9250 as a rule
[10:05] <damuhatori> No ideas?
[10:05] <jdumont> you rock
[10:05] <ciga> where do I check if a new package is entered breezy-backports?
[10:06] <abk> LD_LIBRARY_PATH seems like a variable of some sort
[10:06] <Brumac> rule 9250???
[10:06] <tbaa> abk yes, an environment variable
[10:06] <jsestri2> navarone: another hint, when i do "test" for the output in the multimedia selector, that selector seems to lock up
[10:06] <abk> I can fix my problem, I think, I just need to know what LD_LIBRARY_PATH is and how to edit it
[10:06] <dyrne> Brumac: 3d stuff as long as you have a 9250 or below you shouldnt really have many driver problems
[10:06] <Falstius> abk, it is but you shouldn't need to change it to install wine.  Wine should have included its libraries somewhere the system already knows.
[10:06] <PDani> i tried that howto on ubuntu wiki, but i got the following message: FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[10:06] <PDani> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[10:06] <abk> well, I'm on AMD64
[10:06] <PDani> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[10:06] <tbaa> abk in it, you'll need to add the directory in which libwine.1.so is located
[10:06] <dylan_> how do i share folders with another linux machine?
[10:06] <Falstius> You can set LD_LIBRARY_PATH with: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=x
[10:07] <merp> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/virtual/ndiswrapper-modules-1.1
[10:07] <abk> which needs tweaking
[10:07] <merp> I need this thing installed.
[10:07] <Falstius> abk: you are installing wine for 64bits or 32bits?
[10:07] <merp> However, I have 2.6.12-9 (Breezy)
[10:07] <Brumac> should I use breezy badger for a Dell 600 Lat laptop?
[10:07] <tbaa> abk try "updatedb;locate libwine.1.so"
[10:07] <merp> I don't see a package that suits me.
[10:07] <cafuego> Brumac: yep
[10:07] <Brumac> kk
[10:07] <PDani> any idea?
[10:07] <abk> Falstius: I just type "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=*mypathhere*" and that'll set the variable?
[10:07] <Brumac> trying to learn
[10:07] <Brumac> I have debian installed at work for servers
[10:08] <dibbon> Oh I asked earlier, but I have been getting this issue when I open synaptic (i didn't check IRC in awhile and now any response is gone X<)  ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8898 )
[10:08] <thomas_> HI
[10:08] <Falstius> yes, but only for that window.  If you want to have it set everytime you need to include that line in .bashrc or .login or any of a number of other places.
[10:08] <cafuego> Ubuntu is identical when it comes to system management, the package sets are betetr suited to desktop use than debian though.
[10:08] <thomas_> Is there  acommand
[10:08] <adriyel> how do I format a document in OpenOffice.org to be double-spaced?
[10:08] <Brumac> kk thanks
[10:08] <cafuego> adriyel: Change the line spacing?
[10:09] <tbaa> abk look! you can't just set the variable to something meaningless!
[10:09] <navarone> jsestri2, what does cat /proc/asound/version get you?
[10:09] <adriyel> cafuego, how?
[10:09] <Falstius> abk: I'm running wine in an amd64 install though and I didn't have to tweak LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
[10:09] <jsestri2> navarone: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
[10:09] <jsestri2> Compiled on Feb 19 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.
[10:09] <cafuego> adriyel: Format -> Paragraph -> [Indents & Spacing]  -> Line SPacing
[10:10] <kevo_tool> cafuego: The last version of OpenOffice.org had "Ctrl + 2" linked to double-spacing like what Word has, but the latest version changed it to be gay.
[10:10] <eugene> Hey is there a way to make a homemade dvd repository?
[10:10] <d3x7r0> hi there has anyone managed to get a radeon 9600 acelerated in dapper?
[10:10] <adriyel> cafuego, thank you
[10:10] <merp> What's the name of the package that includes make and all the other standardized development stuffs?
[10:10] <cafuego> kevo_tool: OpenOffice isn't sexually oriented one way or the other.
[10:10] <eugene> buld-essential
[10:10] <merp> Thanks.
[10:10] <kevo_tool> cafuego: Yes, it is.
[10:10] <corvax> yeah add the dvd to your sources
[10:10] <corvax> .list
[10:10] <cafuego> kevo_tool: No, it's not.
[10:10] <navarone> jsestri...that's newer version than mine...lol
[10:10] <wastrel> d3x7r0:  i have a radeon mobility 9600 using fglrx
[10:10] <kevo_tool> cafuego: Sure, it is.
[10:11] <_jason> eugene: http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[10:11] <eugene> No cafuego have you seen openoffice and the way it looks at firefox. That's just wrong.
[10:11] <jsestri2> navarone: hah...dosent seem to be helping me any...
[10:11] <navarone> jsestri2, I think it may be a bug for your hardware/ubuntu
[10:11] <eugene> thanks hason
[10:11] <d3x7r0> wastrel did you have to do anything special to get it to work? my 9600pro doesn't seem to want to get acelerated... it keeps giving me mesa :S
[10:11] <jsestri2> navarone: alright...then i report it?
[10:11] <wastrel> d3x7r0:  are you following the ati howto on the wiki?
[10:11] <d3x7r0> wastrel I'm following the xgl how to
[10:12] <wastrel> d3x7r0:  you're in dapper then?
[10:12] <navarone> jsestri2, I think it is a known problem
[10:12] <d3x7r0> I said it right from the start LOL
[10:12] <adriyel> !wobble cafuego
[10:12] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adriyel
[10:12] <wastrel> d3x7r0:  sorry i didn't notice that ;] 
[10:12] <adriyel> ubotu wobble cafuego
[10:12] <d3x7r0> cafuego: you're mean! I'm gonna cry LOL :P
[10:12] <cafuego> Too bad it has issues drawing controls on some windows.
[10:12] <jroes> anyone know why my friend can't do an apt-get update?  he gets an error stating "Malformed 1st word in the Status line, error occured while processing xfce4-session (UsePackage3)" output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8901
[10:12] <d3x7r0> wastrel: no problem :)
[10:12] <jsestri2> navarone: oh...
[10:13] <adriyel> !wiggle cafuego
[10:13] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adriyel
[10:13] <kevo_tool> Where is "compiz-gnome" as directed on the XglHowto?
[10:13] <navarone> jsestri try "amixer set Master on" < - - getting this from forum entry
[10:13] <cafuego> kevo_tool: Just use 'compiz'
[10:13] <unix_infidel> hey guys i'm on ubuntu on a laptop with a pM chip, for some reason whenver i plug in and out the AC adapter or close the lid or something it changes governors on the cpufreqd daemon on me.
[10:13] <unix_infidel> was wondering how to prevent that.
[10:13] <kevo_tool> cafuego: You have it working?
[10:14] <cafuego> kevo_tool: Yep
[10:14] <jsestri2> navarone: i guess i wait for crimsun then...he seemed to know everything about sound
[10:14] <d3x7r0> cafuego: ati or nvidea btw LOL :P
[10:14] <thomas_> oh yes
[10:14] <thomas_> yes
[10:14] <howcomes> Anyone know where i can get a good set of XMMS presets ?
[10:14] <cafuego> d3x7r0: I have an nvidia card
[10:14] <navarone> jsestri2, okay...sry couldn't help more
[10:14] <d3x7r0> damn you! :P
[10:14] <tbaa> howcomes you mean like the winamp ones?
[10:14] <cafuego> d3x7r0: Don't blame me for researching *before* buying ;-)
[10:14] <dylan_> how do i share folders with other linux boxes?
[10:15] <jsestri2> navarone: its k, gotta love this random problems
[10:15] <howcomes> tbaa yes
[10:15] <unix_infidel> anyone have any ideas on the cpu scaling question?
[10:15] <d3x7r0> Cafuego I've had my card for over 1 year... I wasn't even using linux LOL
[10:15] <cafuego> dylan_: System -> Administration -> Shared FOlders
[10:15] <jsestri2> navarone: do you know if its possible to leave messages for people in this channel when they arn't logged in?
[10:15] <PDani> hm
[10:15] <tbaa> howcomes http://www.xmms.org/faq.php#General3
[10:15] <cafuego> jsestri2: Yes, provided they have an account with nickserv. /msg memoserv help
[10:16] <mattwestm> how do I make my samba homes folder able to be written to?
[10:16] <navarone> jsestri2, I think you can leave msg for registered users but I am not sure how
[10:16] <corvax> edit it in swat
[10:16] <tuxcicles> d3x7r0, have you tried fglrx?  it should give you some opengl support
[10:16] <setuid> Anyone know how to re-enable the web-based config for cups in ubuntu?
[10:16] <cafuego> mattwestm: Traditionally ou can always write to $HOME
[10:16] <diso> * thomas_ has quit ("Killed:Glined-Ending never")
[10:16] <diso> Wtf is glined?
[10:17] <setuid> It seems hard-coded in the binary to refuse web logins
[10:17] <setuid> Which really sucks
[10:17] <d3x7r0> tuxcicles I doesn't work
[10:17] <jroes> diso: globally K-lined, banned from the network
[10:17] <mattwestm> well, when I login with my user and password, I can't write or delete any files
[10:17] <cafuego> tuxcicles: I doubt the ATI drivers supports the extensions needed by Xgl.
[10:17] <d3x7r0> I changed the driver in xorg.conf, rebooted, restarted x, restarted gmd and reinstalled the driver in-between... nothing seems to get my radeon acelerated :S
[10:17] <PDani> the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 package contains an nvidia directory with .o files in it. but the 2.6 kernel module format is .ko, so i'm a little confused... btw apt doesn't put this nvidia directory into /lib/modules/`uname -r`, but into the /lib/linux-restricted-modules...
[10:18] <d3x7r0> cafuego: it does, read the forums :P
[10:18] <jroes> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=739758
[10:18] <cafuego> d3x7r0: Did you install the kernel as well as X driver then?
[10:18] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[10:18] <PDani> any idea?
[10:18] <setuid> Anyone?
[10:18] <jroes> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=739758 - how to install XGL/compiz with Dapper, ATI, Gnome
[10:18] <unix_infidel> hey guys i'm on ubuntu on a laptop with a pM chip, for some reason whenver i plug in and out the AC adapter or close the lid or something it changes governors on the cpufreqd daemon on me.
[10:18] <d3x7r0> cafuego: yes and yes
[10:18] <roostishaw> unperson, are you there?
[10:18] <phiber_optic> does anybody know where is the address so I can change the message when I ssh to moy computer?
[10:18] <unix_infidel> was wondering how to prevent that.
[10:18] <tuxcicles> d3x7r0, my ati 9000 works well with gl, if you have problems i would consult linuksmine.nu/ati
[10:18] <jroes> phiber_optic: /etc/motd
[10:18] <unix_infidel> and there's nothing mentioned on the wiki about acpi rules that ubuntu created or how to manage them....
[10:18] <unix_infidel> so there ya go.
[10:19] <d3x7r0> btw from 9300 above the proceadure is diferent tuxcicles
[10:19] <wastrel> setuid:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2126.html   mebby
[10:19] <navarone> dyrne like...far out
[10:19] <dylan_> cafuego, i thought i had to edit tons of files
[10:19] <phiber_optic> thanx jroes
[10:19] <d3x7r0> and strangely enough the 9600 series is giving the hardest time :|
[10:19] <jroes> np
[10:19] <dyrne> damn hippies!
[10:19] <adriyel> d3x7r0, ATI? you fool.
[10:19] <adriyel> d3x7r0, save yourself the pain
[10:19] <ulisse> i wonder if someone plays enemy territory with thel atest ati drivers (8.22.5)
[10:19] <navarone> dyrne have you hugged a hippy today? lol
[10:20] <dibbon> Anyone know what this Synaptic error means? ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8898 )
[10:20] <d3x7r0> adriyel don't blame the hardware if the software doesn't work :P
[10:20] <adriyel> navarone, the problem is that everytime I hug a hippy my pockets are lighter. :(
[10:20] <merp> What's "libconfig" for Ubuntu?
[10:20] <tuxcicles> my 9000 has really been working well much to my supprise with ubuntu
[10:20] <PDani> how can i how can i install that damn nvidia kernel-module on breezy with 2.6.12-10-386 kernel?
[10:20] <adriyel> d3x7r0, actually, it is ATI the companies fault for crafting horrendous drivers
[10:20] <jroes> if I corrupted /var/lib/dpkg/status somehow, is it possible to recreate it?
[10:20] <navarone> adriyel...hippy or yuppy? <s>
[10:20] <adriyel> d3x7r0, who do you think wrote those closed fglrx drivers?
[10:20] <d3x7r0> adriyel: true but I just love ati cards in both windows and mac :P
[10:20] <adriyel> navarone, is there a difference?
[10:20] <navarone> adriyel...not these days
[10:20] <adriyel> d3x7r0, zealot I see. suffer by your faith then. :P
[10:20] <adriyel> navarone, in that case, yuppy
[10:21] <adriyel> navarone, could be worse. could be a music groupie
[10:21] <d3x7r0> Someday I'll just start using mac os... of course I would need a new processor for that LOL :$
[10:21] <wastrel> i have ati 9600 working pretty good
[10:21] <adriyel> d3x7r0, no you wouldn't. it runs on Intel
[10:21] <unix_infidel> lol, anyone?
[10:21] <axisys> !clamav
[10:21] <ubotu> ClamAV is not required. It purpose is to check files for virii on a server shared with Windows users (eg: mail server). For those that need it for that purpose, it is available in universe.
[10:21] <adriyel> d3x7r0, I've run Mac OS X on this box twice now
[10:21] <catskul_> anyone running dapper have problems with rhythmbox?   I cant seem to load any of my music.... I get "file is not an audio stream"
[10:21] <d3x7r0> I have it here aswell but it's too slow, no sse3 :(
[10:22] <roostishaw> can you use an ipod with rythembox?
[10:22] <zebraFusion> catskul_, I had that same error: I downloaded amarok, much better program
[10:22] <Francisco> hola..
[10:22] <Francisco> hello
[10:22] <Francisco> everbody.."
[10:22] <catskul_> I want to try and stay with the ubuntu standard, and report the bugs as they come
[10:23] <Francisco> Seveas, hello
[10:23] <Francisco> somebosy can helo me.?
[10:23] <_jason> !helpme
[10:23] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:23] <kevo_tool> catskul_: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[10:24] <dylan_> cafuego, to share folders, don't i have to edit some sort of config file, or do i simply install the stuff Shared Folders wants me to, and thats it?
[10:24] <catskul_> kevo_tool, thanks
[10:24] <roostishaw> anyone... can you use an ipod with rythembox?
[10:25] <Kyral> I use GTKPod
[10:25] <catskul_> supposedly rhythmbox was working on ipod integration
[10:25] <catskul_> should be some list postings about that
[10:25] <catskul_> ... I think
[10:25] <iceman> !nvidia
[10:25] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:25] <Kyral> Yah, but right now GTKPod is the best bet
[10:27] <jroes> anyone know what to do if you have a problem with your /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[10:27] <mikeo1> is it possible to bind the extra 3 keys on my mouse to run commands when pushed?
[10:27] <jroes> is there a way to recreate the file, or just reinstall all packages without looking at /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[10:28] <SaLoMoN> gn8
[10:28] <jdumont> any podcasts on ubuntu/edubuntu?
[10:28] <snoozix> is there a way to have a software mixer in xine? i really like xine and would like to keep on using it.
[10:28] <GTX> how do I minimize a program which was full screen
[10:28] <stephen_> my vi[m]  isn't auto tabbing or matching brackets or color coding php
[10:28] <GTX> like a game
[10:28] <snoozix> GTX: that question doesn't really make sense i think.
[10:29] <snoozix> GTX: it's extremely windowmanager related.
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> depends a lot on the program/game
[10:29] <Falstius> GTX: did you try "alt-tab"?
[10:29] <Falstius> works for mplayer.
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> some may not do it nicely
[10:29] <GTX> yes Falstius
[10:29] <GTX> Doesnt work
[10:29] <snoozix> Falstius: depends on WM - in gnome it may work.
[10:29] <Falstius> well, it works in the sense that it sends it to the background.  It doesn't acutally "minimize it"
[10:30] <wastrel> stephen_:  syntax on  maybe
[10:30] <stephen_> wastrel, in vimrc?
[10:30] <snoozix> Falstius: after you put it to the background you can easily right click the taskbar entry and select "minimize" i guess.
[10:30] <wastrel> stephen_:  try in the editor first   :syntax on    dunno if that's the command :] 
[10:30] <snoozix> Falstius: should be probless
[10:31] <GTX> alt+tab works out of games
[10:31] <GTX> but when IM in a game
[10:31] <GTX> it doesnt work
[10:31] <stephen_> oh ok thanks wastrel
[10:31] <snoozix> ":syn on" is the same as ":syntax on" i guess and it's just shorter to type it.
[10:31] <stephen_> wastrel,  :) that worked
[10:31] <kevo_tool> catskul_: You might also want to look at gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly(and -multiverse).
[10:31] <diso> Anyone listening to Virginia Radio Classic Rock
[10:31] <Falstius> snoozix: yeah, but its GTXs problem, not mine :)
[10:31] <snoozix> stephen_: :)
[10:31] <diso> Pretty damn good
[10:31] <diso> Wow
[10:31] <snoozix> Falstius: right :)
[10:31] <dyrne> stephen_: take a look at /etc/vim/vimrc files syntax will be there to uncomment dont know about the rest
[10:31] <diso> this radio included with Ubuntu is awesome
[10:31] <Falstius> GTX: you should check the keyboard setup for gnome, you can probably assign a shortcut key to minimize.
[10:32] <snoozix> diso: radio?
[10:32] <diso> yes
[10:32] <diso> goto
[10:32] <OmegaAlpha> how do i tar a tar.bz2 file? 'tar -xvz file.tar.gz' ?
[10:32] <GTX> Falstius, even in game?
[10:32] <diso> The ione that plays radio strations
[10:32] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  you mean extract it?
[10:32] <kevo_tool> RhythmBox
[10:32] <diso> yes
[10:32] <snoozix> sometimes when i open a terminal, i am not able to go up in the history with up-arrow to access old commands i've typed. how can i change that?
[10:32] <diso> it's good
[10:32] <diso> Virgin radio is good
[10:32] <Falstius> GTX: it looks like the default for GNOME is "Alt-F9".  It might work in a game, depends on the game I think.
[10:33] <catskul_> kevo_tool, yeah... I ended up installing the uglies
[10:33] <surferdude> Hi again. Trying to get ndiswrapper working under breezy and getting an error whenever i do a modprobe for the kernel module
[10:33] <diso> Guys
[10:33] <diso> Quake 4 demo oN LINUX!!!
[10:33] <dyrne> diso: have you installed streamtuner yet? take a look at it
[10:33] <diso> Im gonna download it and run it
[10:33] <diso> hmm
[10:33] <Kronarq> Quick question about setting up apache... I am using kubuntu 5.10. The forums mentioned this guide http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ch04s10.html but some of the things it mentions in the apache2.conf I am not seeing in there is that guide outdated?
[10:33] <diso> i should
[10:33] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, yeah
[10:33] <surferdude> ]  [Homepage: http://ndiswrapper.sf.net]  [Support page:http://ndiswrapper.sf.net/support.html]  Read support page and Wiki first, especially FAQ, before asking for help. Note that for kernel/module compilation issues, there are other places to look, e.g., #kernelnewbies or internet search.
[10:33] <surferdude> * Topic for #ndiswrapper set by giri at Sat Feb 11
[10:33] <GTX> na Falstius  didnt
[10:33] <GTX> worked out of game thoe
[10:33] <surferdude> oops
[10:33] <Creap> I downloaded an app that I start with a ./script via the terminal, thus having to keep that terminal window open. How can I get the app to "install" like it would when I use the application manager, like a normal app?
[10:33] <diso> Money
[10:33] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  tar jxvf  for tar.bz2  files
[10:33] <diso> Pink Floyd on radio
[10:33] <Falstius> GTX, that's the best I can think of.
[10:33] <diso> awesome ness
[10:34] <pigor> hello :-) in the past on my debian-system i have an "advanced" auto-completion: i could type e.g. "man e<TAB>" and all MAN-pages starting with an "e" were given to me. on ubuntu it does not work, why?
[10:34] <surferdude> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:34] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, thanks
[10:34] <Falstius> diso, you might want to grep that quake 4 binary for "rm -f" before running it ...
[10:34] <yohan> I have mailx setup, but where do i change my sender name, pop3 settings etc?
[10:34] <dyrne> Creap: either sudo chmod +x filename then ./filename or maybe sh filename
[10:34] <merp> How come Gnome doesn't ask me for my root password and doesn't allow me to edit any of my settings?
[10:35] <dyrne> Creap: if your installing something youll want to use sudo ./file
[10:35] <corvax> try sudo
[10:35] <jjjjjjj> speaking of root.... when i install edubuntu.... my password is the root password.
[10:35] <merp> But I don't know the name of the thing I want to edit.
[10:35] <merp> I want to use network options.
[10:35] <_jason> merp: what does 'sudo echo hi' do in a terminal?
[10:36] <diso> ROOT IS ROOT
[10:36] <merp> unable to lookup (blah) via gethostbyname()
[10:36] <yohan> I have mailx setup, but where do i change my sender name, pop3 settings etc? <- does anyone know?
[10:36] <_jason> merp: cat /etc/hostname
[10:36] <merp> I am also able to use su
[10:36] <merp> K.
[10:37] <merp> "happyfetus"
[10:37] <_jason> merp: paste the first line of /etc/hosts here
[10:37] <wastrel> yohan:  i don't think it's possible to change sender name in mailx... you'd have to rewrite it in your mail server config
[10:37] <Creap> dyrne: no, I get the app to run, the script is called "player", it's the Last.fm player. When I do either sudo ./player or ./player it starts (from the location I extracted it to in my home dir), but the terminal window is still open and the player closes if I close the terminal.
[10:37] <MrKeuner> hi, I have installed breezy on an ibm thinkpad r52. Everything looks fine. But i cannot enable tappig and dragging on the small mouse pad on it. (or whatever it is called) Is there a way to do that?
[10:37] <yohan> wastrel: where is that?
[10:37] <merp> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[10:37] <wastrel> yohan:  what mail server are you running?
[10:37] <yohan> wastrel: I need the file name...funilly i cant find it on google :|
[10:37] <wastrel> yohan:  what file name
[10:37] <_jason> merp: su to root and change that line to: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost happyfetus
[10:38] <yohan> wastrel: i just installed ubuntu...i havnt installed anything in particular..
[10:38] <wastrel> yohan:  you want to use mailx - the command line mail program?
[10:38] <derek_> I created the file .xsession, but not able to use it.. getting some errors
[10:38] <yohan> wastrel: of the config file for the system mail configuration? Or am I thinking about something that doesnt exist
[10:38] <yohan> wastrel: yeah
[10:38] <Falstius> Creap: do "./player &"
[10:38] <derek_> $ cat .xsession-errors
[10:38] <derek_> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[10:38] <derek_> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "derek"
[10:38] <derek_> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[10:38] <Falstius> then it won't go away when you close the terminal.
[10:38] <dyrne> Creap: i might be wrong but i think that a python app.  well you could just put it in your home dir and run withh './file &'
[10:38] <wastrel> yohan:  there's no global config for system mail - it depends on what mail server you have installed.  postfix is the default.  /etc/postfix/main.cf i believve
[10:39] <merp> _jason:  I'll reboot.
[10:39] <merp> Thanks.
[10:39] <_jason> merp: just logout and back in
[10:39] <yohan> wastrel: ih j
[10:39] <yohan> wastrel: oh k
[10:39] <dyrne> Creap: but you might want to make a link to /usr/bin so you can run it from anywhere
[10:39] <wastrel> yohan:  it's not a simple operation :] 
[10:39] <yohan> wastrel: i have no such directory under / :/
[10:39] <monkey89> having a few dapper problems - first, the default cursor isn't human, how do i fix?
[10:40] <LeonWP> hey, is there a todo-list or something like that for dapper?
[10:40] <coolbeing> need help with NVIDIA please
[10:40] <wastrel> yohan:  mailx isn't really a MUA, it doesn't have the functionality you're asking about
[10:40] <monkey89> LeonWP: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[10:40] <yohan> wastrel: but it says "no new mails" when i run it, where does it get that info from?
[10:40] <kevo_tool> Why am I unable to delete sessions from the Sessions dialog (System > Preferences > Sessions)?
[10:40] <merp> _jason:  That fixed it.
[10:40] <yohan> wastrel: i like it because its simple...i just want a nice command-line alternative
[10:41] <wastrel> yohan:  probably checking /var/mail/  or /var/spool/mail/  for a spool file for you
[10:41] <merp> Uh oh...
[10:41] <_jason> merp: ?
[10:41] <merp> Now it doesn't recognize my root password.
[10:41] <Creap> I'm afraid ./player & didn't help :\ but anyway, where would be a good place to move the app, not having all the apps in my home dir? or should I keep them there?
[10:41] <_jason> merp: it should be your users
[10:41] <yohan> wastrel: oh k...do i need to install postfix then?
[10:42] <LeonWP> monkey89: thanks
[10:42] <amphi> Creap: you can put stuff in ~/bin - that should be in your $PATH
[10:42] <LeonWP> and a log of the deveolpers?
[10:42] <Creap> ok
[10:42] <eugman> Just curious, What would have to be done to make a time sensitive account? Something like GuestAfternoon which can only be used in the afternoon.
[10:42] <merp> _jason:  K.  That worked, but now there is no program opening.
[10:42] <derek_> Would someone PLEASE help?
[10:42] <yohan> Does anyone know of a nice command-line email reader and sender?
[10:43] <ZephyrXero> Anyone know how to get Amarok using gstreamer in dapper?
[10:43] <unix_infidel> not in here. no one gets help in here, unless its how do i start x as root ;P
[10:43] <_jason> merp: 'sudo echo hi' works?
[10:43] <Falstius> eugman, you could probably make (or even find) a PAM module that does that.
[10:43] <wastrel> yohan:  it's going to get really complicated if you install postfix just so you can use mailx... you'll also need fetchmail and procmail configured as well...
[10:43] <zebraFusion> Is there anyway to run Internet Explorer for sites that require it? My mom needs to use IE for work
[10:43] <DanC_u> I just fired up this ubuntu box after it was off for a while the USB interface keeps resetting
[10:43] <yohan> wastrel: ah that sucks, is there no simple command-line mailer?
[10:43] <unix_infidel> lol
[10:43] <DanC_u> how can I tell which release I'm running?
[10:43] <jumpkick> my usb mouse just started jumping around, so I just unplugged it and plugged it back in...  what
[10:43] <Falstius> zebraFusion: you can run (older) IE in Wine
[10:43] <merp> _jason: No, it asks me for my password.
[10:43] <Falstius> I think its like IE 5.
[10:43] <jumpkick> 's the command to restart the usb detect?
[10:43] <_jason> merp: and when you enter it?
[10:43] <mister_roboto> eugman: you could do that by having the program run upon login check the time and just return false if it's not in the right time, else exec a shell
[10:43] <merp> Nothing happens.
[10:44] <wastrel> yohan:  i really like mutt, it's not simple to configure but it can be made simple to use
[10:44] <_jason> merp: did you do an expert install?
[10:44] <merp> Yes.
[10:44] <ZephyrXero> zebraFusion: You have two options, look for plugins to Firefox that will trick the site into thinking it's IE as that's all it is sometimes, but if it's gonna require ActiveX or something you'll have to run IE through WINE or something
[10:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell merp about expert
[10:44] <merp> I have a really old laptop.
[10:44] <yohan> wastrel: i like that
[10:44] <kevo_tool> Why am I unable to delete sessions from the Sessions dialog (System > Preferences > Sessions)?
[10:44] <_jason> merp: check your private messages
[10:44] <zebraFusion> ZephyrXero, Thanks.
[10:44] <jumpkick> I thought it was /etc/init.d/hotplug restart, but that doesn't seem to exist on my install
[10:44] <merp> Got it, _jason.
[10:44] <zebraFusion> Falstius, thanks
[10:44] <mister_roboto> eugman: know what i mean?
[10:45] <ZephyrXero> Anyone know how to get Amarok using gstreamer in dapper?
[10:45] <jumpkick> DanC, you having USB probs also?
[10:45] <zebraFusion> is aspx a sign of activeX?
[10:45] <merp> _jason:  I'll log in and out now.
[10:45] <_jason> merp: k
[10:46] <DanC_u> yes; USB problems here
[10:46] <kerneld> Hey, updating to breezy from sarge, can someone with a vanila install, or a livecd send me a dpkg --get-selections > selections.list ?
[10:46] <maria> do you have to burn the dapper drake flight 4 iso to upgrade? or can you just mount it and install from that?
[10:46] <DanC_u> [4296363.238000]  drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: input irq status -71 received
[10:46] <DanC_u> [4296363.238000]  drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: can't resubmit intr, 0000:00:10.4-6.2/input1, status -19
[10:46] <vitin> list
[10:47] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to run EasyUbuntu after installing it??
[10:47] <amphi> vitin: ?
[10:47] <DanC_u> how can I tell which release I have installed? I know I upgraded to Hoary, but I can't remember if I upgraded to Breezy
[10:47] <merp> _jason:  sudo echo hi gives me a syntax error.
[10:47] <jumpkick> DanC_u: I don't have anything in my dmesg, but my USB mouse started hopping around...    I unplugged it, now I can't find hotplug to restart it
[10:47] <wastrel> DanC_u:  try  lsb_release -a
[10:47] <_jason> merp: wth
[10:47] <merp> syntax error, line 20 <<<
[10:47] <kerneld> DanC_u: At a guess, /etc/ubuntu.release or some such. Not there yet to check
[10:47] <_jason> merp: syntax error in sudoers?
[10:47] <adub> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=751094#post751094          <--------  sorry have to give link to problem it takes forever to type things in X MAJOR KEYBOARD problem!?!?!
[10:47] <merp> sudo:  parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 20
[10:47] <merp> I ?l check it out.
[10:48] <DanC_u> Release:        5.10
[10:48] <DanC_u> Codename:       breezy
[10:48] <ZephyrXero> zebraFusion: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASPX it doesn't look like it is activeX reliant
[10:48] <corvax> uname -a?
[10:48] <_jason> merp: visudo and make it look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[10:48] <DanC_u> tx, wastrel . lsb_release is new to me
[10:48] <kerneld> DanC_u: Where did you get that text?
[10:48] <merp> Can't.
[10:48] <merp> I'm using two computers right now.
[10:48] <merp> Laptop is on my lap.
[10:48] <merp> I'm in Windows right now.
[10:48] <merp> Oh.
[10:48] <merp> Nevermind.
[10:48] <vitin> question regarding running java mustang on breezy, any takers?
[10:48] <amphi> merp: to avoid such probs., use visudo
[10:49] <amphi> merp: not $EDITOR
[10:49] <kerneld> Can someone help me with a list of packages in a vanila install?
[10:49] <riddlebox> ok am I dumb or what, for my network printserver I need to use the lpd:\\ and my queue is LPT1 I put those into the fields for printer, but it doesnt work?
[10:49] <jsestri2> jsestri2 test
[10:49] <Seveas> kerneld, simple: ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-standard and grub
[10:50] <merp> I think I see the error.
[10:50] <amphi> riddlebox: LPT1? what quaint nomenclature ;)
[10:50] <merp> I think I might have mistyped something.
[10:50] <merp> Let's see.
[10:50] <riddlebox> amphi, it is a netgear wireless usb printserver
[10:50] <kerneld> Seveas, I want to purge debian packages I have installed that are not in the base, before I dist upgrade, so I catually need the list
[10:50] <corvax> just put the ip
[10:51] <thelsdj> hmm is dev86 available on ubuntu? whats the package for that?
[10:51] <corvax> ip address of thr printserver
[10:51] <cradek> thelsdj: you mean as86 etc?  the package is bin86
[10:51] <gstevens> when I run "dmesg", the output is "[4309930.906000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known." what can be wrong?
[10:51] <merp> _jason:  Yep.
[10:51] <riddlebox> corvax, it can hold two printers though, so shouldnt I use the queue
[10:51] <merp> I fixed it. :)
[10:52] <coolbeing> need help with NVIDIA please
[10:52] <corvax> question how could it be wirelessand usb ?lol
[10:52] <corvax> jk
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[10:52] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:52] <merp> Yay!
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:52] <ciga> sane-find-scanner finds my usb scanner, but scanimage -L not. What can I do?
[10:52] <ZephyrXero> Ok, I'll ask it once more I guess... Anyone in here know how to get Amarok with a gStreamer backend under Dapper? all I see in the repo is xine and arts :/
[10:52] <jroes> !mp3
[10:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <coolbeing> Willis i need more help then that
[10:53] <merp> Hrm...
[10:53] <merp> Beatrix has this differently...
[10:53] <merp> It actually has an automatic configuration of network devices.
[10:53] <coolbeing> anyone, help with nvidia driver please ?
[10:53] <dyrne> coolbeing: what was the problem?
[10:53] <yohan> wastrel: i installed mutt but when im reading the guide it keeps telling me i need sendmail and stuff..
[10:53] <merp> How do I add a network device to Network Settings?
[10:54] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: what kind of trouble are you having exactly?
[10:54] <merp> I've already got it working (hopefully) via ndiswrapper.
[10:54] <shortjollio> hey, how come ill download apps using ymantec but they wont appear in my applications menu?
[10:54] <dylan_> when i go into Network Servers to access the files on my laptop, I can see my laptop machine, but whenever I try to get inside, it asks me for a password.  And it does it again and again and again.  What username and password do I put here, and why won't it let me access my files?  This was seamless under Hoary and is very difficult now.  Why?
[10:54] <wastrel> yohan:  it's my understanding that mutt can act as a pop3 client and can deliver messages to remote mail servers, just like a regular MUA
[10:55] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: did uo get my pm ?
[10:55] <jroes> anyone know what the gstreamer plugin is for mp3s in dapper?
[10:55] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: yup
[10:55] <dylan_> can somebody please help me?
[10:55] <corvax> yeah if you have 2 hooked up
[10:55] <gstevens> Hi, how can I mount my ipod? "lsusb" shows this message: "Bus 005 Device 004: ID 05ac:1300 Apple Computer, Inc."
[10:55] <Seveas> jroes, gstreamer0.10-mad
[10:55] <DanC_u> ok, USB keyboard problems fixed, I think (replaced a failing cable?)
[10:56] <Dan_> can someone help me with a xserver problem?
[10:56] <corvax> gstevens use gtkpod i guess?
[10:56] <DanC_u> ok, breezy updates done. i think I'll reboot...
[10:56] <shortjollio> sometimes when i add applications using symantec, the new apps dont appear in my apps menu. can any1 tell me why  this is?
[10:56] <ZephyrXero> gstevens: I don't know this as fact, but I think you'll need a program that understands the ipod file system format like gtkpod or something
[10:56] <jroes> Seveas: oh, I didn't see that in my apt-cache search, and I have multiverse
[10:57] <gstevens> I think first I must mount my ipod, but I dont know where?
[10:57] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: any help on that one ?
[10:57] <gstevens> mount xxx /media/ipod
[10:58] <jroes> Seveas: you sure it's gstreamer0.10-mad?  It doesn't look like it's finding it :X
[10:58] <dylan_> when i go into Network Servers to access the files on my laptop, I can see my laptop machine, but whenever I try to get inside, it asks me for a password.  And it does it again and again and again.  What username and password do I put here, and why won't it let me access my files?  This was seamless under Hoary and is very difficult now.  Why?
[10:58] <merp> How do I add a NIC device?
[10:58] <kerneld> Is there an ubuntu specific opera mirror? Or will I get away with using debian/testing ?
[10:58] <Seveas> !info dapper gstreamer0.10-mad
[10:58] <er_CHEF> how to install java on ubuntu???
[10:58] <Seveas> hmm
[10:58] <merp> Java is usually easy.
[10:58] <Dan_> can someone help me with a xserver problem after the install?
[10:58] <wastrel> !java
[10:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:58] <Seveas> jroes, looks like I was wrong ;/
[10:58] <coolbeing> dyrne: any help ?
[10:58] <MrKeuner> hi, I have installed breezy on an ibm thinkpad r52. Everything looks fine. But i cannot enable tappig and dragging on the small mouse pad on it. (or whatever it is called) Is there a way to do that?
[10:58] <kerneld> !opera
[10:58] <ubotu> [opera]  not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:58] <merp> !NIC
[10:58] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, merp
[10:58] <jroes> Seveas: doh :)
[10:59] <ZephyrXero> gstevens: when you did dmesg did it say anything like /dev/sda(or sdb, sdc, etc)?
[11:00] <Dan_> can someone help me with a xserver problem after the install?
[11:01] <shortjollio> y doesnt programs i added using synaptec show up in my applications menu?
[11:01] <jumpkick> how do I restart udev so that it will restart the USB bus?
[11:01] <Madpilot> kerneld: there are Ubuntu-specific Opera versions, at least for the current stable version of Opera
[11:01] <coolbeing> anyone can help with NVIDIA driver please ?
[11:01] <adriyel> coolbeing, consult the sage Ubotu
[11:01] <adriyel> ubotu tell coolbeing about nvidia glx
[11:02] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  i don't know if this will help but you might want to look at tpconfig
[11:02] <adriyel> ubotu tell coolbeing about nvidia
[11:02] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: where'd you go?
[11:02] <Alexi5> hello
[11:02] <Dan_> can someone help me with a xserver problem after the install?
[11:02] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero:  i am here. did you get al 3 of my pms ?
[11:02] <Alexi5> does anyone here use anjuta in ubuntu
[11:02] <ZephyrXero> yeah, go back to it
[11:02] <jumpkick> coolbeing: what's your trouble with the nividia dirver?
[11:02] <corvax> san ask the question
[11:02] <coolbeing> adriyel: bot wont help, i need a human
[11:02] <gstevens> dmesg doesn't say something like that, ZephyrXero
[11:02] <corvax> geez
[11:02] <riddlebox> corvax, I tried with just the ip and it still didnt work, I had this working on my last ubuntu install but then I needed to reinstall and now it doesnt work
[11:02] <adriyel> coolbeing, state error please.
[11:02] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ I did installed that but could not really figure out if it is what should play with. thanks anyway
[11:02] <jroes> Seveas: fyi - asked them in MOTU, turns out they are separated into good, bad, and ugly.  gstreamer-ugly is the proper one gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:03] <shortjollio> does it ever happen to any1 else that when adding applications using symantec, they do not appear in the applications menu?
[11:03] <Dan_> i cant boot up because xserver is giving me a error, can someone help me with that please
[11:03] <corvax> using ipp
[11:03] <ZephyrXero> gstevens: well you'll have to figure out where your device is at to mount it. I'd seriously look into gtkpod or something ;)
[11:03] <riddlebox> corvax, using Unix printer LPD
[11:03] <coolbeing> adriyel: followed this guide:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074       Method 2
[11:03] <corvax> i see
[11:03] <coolbeing> adriyel: after step 10, when i isntall nvidia i get a problem : inable to load the kernel module... something about that the one used for nvidia is kernel 4 and i am using 3.4  ??? I am a noob and dont knwo what to do
[11:03] <merp> I know what is wrong...
[11:03] <adriyel> coolbeing, syntax error 3: not my question
[11:04] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  sudo tpconfig -t 1    should do what you want
[11:04] <coolbeing> adriyel: "ntax error 3 "   ?
[11:04] <merp> Where can I get a kernel module for ndiswrapper for my kernel 2.6.12-9?
[11:04] <Dan_> i cant boot up because xserver is giving me a error, can someone help me with that please
[11:04] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: can you help ?
[11:04] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  tap and drag, right?
[11:04] <gstevens> ZephyrXero: Ok, thank you
[11:04] <MrKeuner> right
[11:04] <adriyel> coolbeing, I said state the error.
[11:04] <tga> !dapper
[11:04] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[11:04] <corvax> is the driver installed properly in uuntu?
[11:04] <navarone> Dan what is error and maybe someone can help
[11:04] <coolbeing> adriyel: i just did
[11:04] <adub> i want to test fluxbox desktop environment if i have two desktop environments installed will i be prompted for a choice how does that work?
[11:05] <tga> is dapper usable yet?
[11:05] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: what version of ubuntu are you running? Hoary, Breezy, Dapper?
[11:05] <tga> adub, you choose it under 'Session' in GDM
[11:05] <_jason> adub: you choose it in the sessions menu at the gdm login
[11:05] <piksel> how do I upgrade my apt-get database?  What I mean is, I need to upgrade kdelibs-bin, but apt-get says it already has the newest version installed, which isn't true
[11:05] <navarone> adub at login screen click sessions and choose which you want
[11:05] <adub> i see
[11:05] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: i have Daper flight 4
[11:05] <Dan_> i think its something with my video card
[11:05] <coolbeing> adriyel:  I followed thi guide - method 2    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=750
[11:05] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  try 1, 2 or 3  and see which one you like :] 
[11:05] <tga> piksel, apt is always right
[11:05] <d3x7r0> arrrgggggg damn dri :S
[11:05] <merp> Who here is using kernel 2.6.12-9-386?
[11:05] <coolbeing> adriyel: fter step 10, when i isntall nvidia i get a problem : inable to load the kernel module... something about that the one used for nvidia is kernel 4 and i am using 3.4  ??? I am a noob and dont knwo what to do
[11:05] <Dan_> i remember changing it from ati to a generic to get it working last time, but i cant remember what i had to set it up for
[11:06] <adriyel> coolbeing, sudo /sbin/modprobe nvidia
[11:06] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ does tap and drag means tapping twice and without removing the finger and moving th eobject on the screen by moving your finger on the pad?
[11:06] <navarone> Dan you'll have to be speciific...what vidcard what error messages etc
[11:06] <dylan_> can somebody please help me network my two systems together?
[11:06] <corvax> you still need to install the driver again ofcourse
[11:06] <ZephyrXero> ZephyrXero: all I had to do for my nvidia card (running dapper as well) was install the nvidia-glx package from synaptic, and then in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file changed my card from "nv" to "nvidia"
[11:06] <coolbeing> adriyel: FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[11:06] <clearscreen> xgl is really cool :)
[11:06] <ZephyrXero> don't know why I had my own name :P
[11:06] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  this seems to be a single tap then drag
[11:06] <Dan_> well let me boot up and get the exact error message
[11:06] <howcomes> 4) logout and login using failsafe xterm session // what is a failsafe xterm session ?
[11:06] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  without removing finger
[11:07] <navarone> Seveas will xgl be implemented in dapper? Or will it after a later date...ie after dapper is released?
[11:07] <corvax> my settings are cups printer (ipp) and networkprinter is checked
[11:07] <IdleOne> howcomes:  its like safemode in windows
[11:07] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero:  so that worked for you? my problem is that my nvidia fna on a laptop is working fast as if i am playing a game which i am not..
[11:07] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: did you install the nvidia-glx package from synaptic/apt?
[11:07] <Seveas> navarone, it has landed in dapper a few days ago
[11:07] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ should I restart gdm after setting a new t value?
[11:07] <gstevens> I have a TV card. When I run xawtv, It says "/dev/vide0/ no such file or directory" what can I do?
[11:08] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ because it does not look like doing it with any of 1 2 or 3
[11:08] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: yes, but that does not help. I still dont see the nvidia logo upon reboot and my fans run very fast
[11:08] <navarone> Seveas...hmm...I have heard about it but I understand it is basically eye candy...?
[11:08] <corvax> uri:ipp//my ip address
[11:08] <shortjollio> could some1 pls help me. symantec doesnts eem to be installing or downloading apps properly. seeing as they dont appear in my applications menu
[11:08] <Seveas> navarone, yup
[11:08] <Seveas> !xgl
[11:08] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: yeah, that is kinda odd... did you change your xorg.conf too?
[11:08] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:08] <Seveas> navarone, poke at the last url
[11:08] <Seveas> and look at some of the videos (don't drool!)
[11:08] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: no, i am a nood and xorg.conf is somehtign i dont know baout
[11:08] <ZephyrXero> ubotu: isn't it a real pain to get it going though? from what I've heard...
[11:08] <navarone> Seveas...I am one of the sane ones that stayed away from dapper until april...,s>
[11:08] <alpha254> coolbeing, you've already downloaded the nvida installer and run it right?
[11:08] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, ZephyrXero
[11:09] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: so strange, 2006 newest ubuntu and they dont have nvidia drivers default ?
[11:09] <ZephyrXero> ubotu: you just did an advertisement for using Xgl
[11:09] <ubotu> ZephyrXero: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:09] <ubuntu_> could anyone guide me in the correct direction to mount a lvm partition or restore my bootloader (using flight cd 4 ) ?
[11:09] <alpha254> coolbeing, ubuntu isn't allowed to by nvidia
[11:09] <coolbeing> alpha254: yes, but when installing it i get an error : unable to load the kernel module .... something that it was done with 4  and i have 3.4
[11:09] <corvax> zephyr its a BOT
[11:10] <Seveas> alpha254, yes ubuntu is, but the drivers aren't 100% supportable (and against the ubuntu philosophy)
[11:10] <coolbeing> alpha254: how come otehrs are allowed? most of the distors had the nvidia driver and not ubuntu ?
[11:10] <chapium> Hi, I'm having trouble with glade in ubuntu
[11:10] <Madpilot> ZephyrXero: you do know that ubotu is a bot, right? :P
[11:10] <corvax> lol
[11:10] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: ok, what you need to do is goto a command line and type in "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", then look for where it says "nv" and change that to "nvidia"
[11:10] <Madpilot> ubotu tell ZephyrXero about yourself
[11:10] <ZephyrXero> Madpilot: yeah, figured that out finally... :P
[11:10] <chapium> when try to run autogen.sh in the source it produces, it gives an error saying glib is not installed
[11:10] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, hey man, i used symantec to get some new apps but they dont appear in my applications menu, do u know why this might be?
[11:10] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: you mean this :   Section "Device"
[11:10] <coolbeing> 	Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce Go 6600] "
[11:10] <coolbeing> 	Driver		"nv"
[11:11] <alpha254> coolbeing, i don't know of any distro that includes the nvidia drivers... the nv yes, but not the nvidia one
[11:11] <ZephyrXero> yeah
[11:11] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: but first i need to install nvidia-glx right ?
[11:11] <ZephyrXero> just change the nv to nvidia
[11:11] <ZephyrXero> yes
[11:11] <chapium> however, I think glib is installed.  glib is i know for sure
[11:11] <alpha254> yep, that's it
[11:11] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: ok and then reboot the laptop ?
[11:11] <chapium> * i mean libgib
[11:11] <ZephyrXero> yeah, or you can just hit alt+cntrl+backspace to reset your X server ;)
[11:11] <alpha254> coolbeing, that change is in the readme distributed with nvidia's software
[11:12] <corvax> ya dont need to reboot for it
[11:12] <corvax> just restart x
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, I assume you actually mean Synaptic, but anyway.  Only certain things will show up in that menu automatically.  It has a predefined list, and shows them if they're installed.  You can manually add things however, by right-clicking Applications in the panel and selecting Edit Menus.
[11:12] <alpha254> coolbeing, i think there is one other change that nvidia recommends, but it was already set when I setup the drivers
[11:12] <DanC_u> hmm... I just brought all my packages up-to-date and firefox still says 1.0.x. ubuntu isn't up to ff 1.5?
[11:12] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  hmm i think tpconfig isn't working in breezy....    i saw a reference to  /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synatptics/README.gz  for info on configuring tappad behaivor in xorg.conf
[11:13] <coolbeing> alpha254: you setup the drivers? how just by getting nvidia-glx via synaptic ?
[11:13] <bimberi> chapium: a bit of a guess but try installing libglib2.0-dev and see if that helps
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> !tell DanC_u about firefox1.5
[11:13] <alpha254> coolbeing, i downloaded the .run.sh file and used it that way
[11:13] <chapium> bimberi, why?
[11:13] <alpha254> coolbeing, apt-get might be a better way though
[11:13] <merp> How friggin ridiculous.
[11:13] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ yeah I guess so, because it says no tap gestures no matter whichever mod I choose
[11:13] <merp> There is no kernel source on this CD.
[11:13] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, yes but some of the new apps dont appear in the menu editor, and some of the ones that do dont actually get added when i check them
[11:13] <Seveas> merp, of course not, that is just bloat...
[11:14] <bimberi> chapium: sometimes messages like that are solved by installing the -dev package
[11:14] <coolbeing> alpha254: what is " .run.sh"  ?? i am only a noob
[11:14] <merp> How do I find kernel source for this version if it isn't on the CD and not on the webpage?
[11:14] <alpha254> coolbeing, oh, ok
[11:14] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: just go with synaptic ;)
[11:14] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: getting the files now
[11:14] <chapium> bimberi, hmmok
[11:14] <alpha254> coolbeing, there are many ways to get software installed
[11:14] <Seveas> merp, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[11:14] <alpha254> coolbeing, apt-get is the easy way
[11:14] <Mythri1> Are there any video streaming servers available for ubuntu?
[11:14] <merp> Seveas:  Without internet connection?
[11:14] <alpha254> coolbeing, synAPTic is a wonderful gui for getting software
[11:14] <chapium> bimberi, oh dev.. duh... i was confusing that with something else
[11:14] <coolbeing> alpha254: ZephyrXero i jsut really hope to solve my fan issue. hope the driver will have proper power control of nvidia
[11:14] <merp> I need the source to install the kernel module for ndiswrapper.
[11:14] <corvax> merp yes
[11:14] <Seveas> no you don't
[11:15] <bimberi> chapium: :)
[11:15] <dyrne> Mythri1: well you can use vlc to stream stuff
[11:15] <Seveas> the kernel module for ndiswrapper is installed from the cd
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, For the first part, that's what I'm saying, they won't appear in the menu editor; you have to manually add a launcher.  For the second half of the sentence, I'm not sure what you mean.
[11:15] <corvax> i thought it ws on cd
[11:15] <alpha254> coolbeing, point synAPTic to a sotware repository and you can install easy
[11:15] <corvax> i dont have cd handy
[11:15] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: once you get the drivers installed there will be an nvidia-settings program available to you as well, similar to the one you would have in windows or something
[11:15] <Seveas> and you need only the headers for compiling modules, not the complete source
[11:15] <Mythri1> dyrne: any tutorials on hand (if not, I'll use google)
[11:15] <corvax> but if you have one and its in your sources.list
[11:15] <Mythri1> how do I change the refresh rate for my monitor
[11:15] <Mythri1> ?
[11:15] <alpha254> coolbeing,  another way is by downloading nvidia's file and running it
[11:15] <Madpilot> !tell Mythri1 about fixres
[11:16] <jumpkick> Seveas: you running xgl?  is there a compiz-kde package somewhere?
[11:16] <corvax> you should be able to snag it
[11:16] <merp> Says it's not available.
[11:16] <alpha254> coolbeing, yea, that nvidia-seetings is pretty nice
[11:16] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero: previously i did instll nvidia-glx  and also i had nvidia-settings i terminal and i saw the nvidia tool. but that never fixed my fan issue. hope now with change of nv to nvidia it will work
[11:16] <merp> I'm totally screwed.
[11:16] <Seveas> jumpkick, there should be now (the package has been split into compiz, compiz-gnome and compiz-kde)
[11:16] <ZephyrXero> good luck ;D
[11:16] <flodine> any 64 bit people here
[11:16] <alpha254> coolbeing, also reminds me that there is a nvidia-getnewest or something like that to update the software
[11:16] <Seveas> merp, what says that?
[11:16] <dyrne> Mythri1: most of my questions have been answered just at http://www.videolan.org/
[11:16] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, say i downloaded a game such as freedoom using synaptic. it doesnt appear in the apps menu.  i go to search for files and type freedoom and it doesnt appear there either. its like it never got downloaded in the first place
[11:16] <coolbeing> alpha254: is it automatic?
[11:16] <merp> I can't get an internet connection.
[11:16] <alpha254> coolbeing, just make sure your vidieo card is supported by that version
[11:16] <adriyel> coolbeing, I have an NVidia 6800GT, my roommate always knows when I am playing games, the fan makes significant amt's of noise
[11:17] <adriyel> I need to clean the darn thing out
[11:17] <alpha254> coolbeing, what? apt or nvidia
[11:17] <alpha254> ?
[11:17] <coolbeing> adriyel: i also have nvidia go 6600
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Okay, clarify "downloaded".
[11:17] <ZephyrXero> merp: how are you even talking to us then?
[11:17] <merp> I have ndiswrapper-utils installed, but not the right kernel module for ndiswrapper-modules.
[11:17] <adriyel> coolbeing, cool.
[11:17] <merp> I'm on another computer.
[11:17] <adriyel> coolbeing, I can't afford a laptop, however. :)
[11:17] <coolbeing> alpha254:  nvidia
[11:17] <Seveas> merp, the ndiswrapper kernel module is installed by defualt
[11:17] <Seveas> just modprobe it
[11:17] <alpha254> coolbeing, nope, you'll need to run the update as root and let it download software
[11:18] <jumpkick> Serveas: only in the main mirror or something?  apt-cache searched for kde-compiz and compiz-kde, didn't find anything... did find compiz... but that wants to install all of gnome
[11:18] <coolbeing> alpha254: but the isntall will it be automatic?
[11:18] <Seveas> jumpkick, yes, only on the main archive I think
[11:18] <alpha254> coolbeing, it will ask you a few questions and install
[11:18] <Seveas> it has been uploaded only hours ago
[11:18] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, nm ignore the download part. ill go through getting the app in synapptic. it downloads the program and then installs it, correct?  but the app wont appear anywhere on my system
[11:18] <merp> FATAL:  Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9.386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[11:18] <jumpkick> Seveas: cool, I'll poke around on the main server
[11:18] <alpha254> coolbeing, weren't you almost there anyways?
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> btw, I saw the e-mail about Flight 4, and it sounds like more progress has been made than I was expecting, so congrats to anyone helping with development.
[11:19] <Mythri1> thank you guys
[11:19] <Seveas> merp, did you uninstall the restricted modules perhaps?
[11:19] <coolbeing> alpha254: yes, up to the point where you actually isntall but it told me that " unable to load the kernel module"  the ones used to cmpile is 4 you have 3.4
[11:19] <alpha254> coolbeing, change nv to nvidia in the xorg.conf file like someone already mentioned
[11:19] <merp> I don't think so.
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, If you select something in Synaptic and then proceed to click Apply, and it goes through that process without errors, then yes, it installs.
[11:19] <merp> I'll check.
[11:19] <corvax> hey merp  try this
[11:20] <corvax> find /lib/modules/ | grep ndiswrapper
[11:20] <coolbeing> alpha254: i wil in a moment, still downlaoding the files to install nvidia-glx
[11:20] <alpha254> coolbeing, k
[11:20] <ubuntu_> is it possible to mount a lvm partition?
[11:20] <merp> Ahh...
[11:20] <merp> That helps.
[11:20] <dyrne> begining chinese classes and wanting to input trad chinese characters in ubuntu..whats the best way to do this? software/touchpad or type in pinyin then convert?
[11:20] <coolbeing> alpha254: is there skype for ubuntu? it is not in synaptic
[11:21] <merp> Must have when I tried to install another version...
[11:21] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, yes, it will go though the process without errors but i can never find those applications on my system afterwards
[11:21] <merp> I wonder if the modules are on the CD still.
[11:21] <corvax> gotta delete one right?
[11:21] <alpha254> coolbeing, not sure... look at skype's website
[11:21] <bimberi> ubotu tell coolbeing about skype
[11:21] <Seveas> merhojt, yes, just reinstall the linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package
[11:21] <alpha254> coolbeing, might be albe to use an existing linux app
[11:21] <Mythri1> Ctrl-Backspace is an awesome key combo (WARNING: restarts your X server)
[11:21] <Mythri1> whoops, I meant Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Maybe try some wildcards in case the file names aren't what you're expecting.
[11:22] <thepenguin> hey anyone know how to browse harddrive on ubuntu, i just installed it
[11:22] <coolbeing> alpha254: ok, gone to restart
[11:22] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  you still there?  i just activated locked drags in my xorg.conf
[11:22] <Seveas> thepenguin, places  computer
[11:22] <alpha254> coolbeing, k
[11:22] <wastrel> thepenguin:  command line or gui
[11:22] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ still looking for it yes
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, How do you do that little arrow?
[11:22] <merp> Hrm...
[11:23] <merp> How do I get apt-get to look for my CD?
[11:23] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, Unicode 
[11:23] <thepenguin> it wouldnt show my  hardrive only filesystem floppy and cd drive
[11:23] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  added           Option          "LockedDrags"           "1"
[11:23] <wastrel>      in the synaptics touch pad section
[11:23] <thepenguin> or is file system it?
[11:23] <Seveas> merp, if you did not modifty sources.list yet it should look at your cd
[11:23] <Seveas> otherwise, use apt-cd add
[11:23] <OmegaAlpha> any1 use Easy Ubuntu in here?
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, With what sort of input mechanism to accomplish that?  I'd like to do that sort of thing myself, and am curious what the steps are.
[11:23] <alpha254> what's a good program on ubuntu for podcast catching?
[11:23] <Seveas> OmegaAlpha, #easyubuntu
[11:23] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  do you have tap actions at all?   like tap=click?   i'm not using gpm at all...
[11:23] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, x-chat autoreplace 
[11:24] <MrKeuner> wastrel/  OK will try that but if I do that dpkg will no more handle xorg.conf right?
[11:24] <OmegaAlpha> Seveas, yeah im there now.. hardly anyone in there talking
[11:24] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ I tap on this pad instead of clicing the left button but I haven't enabled it somewhere
[11:24] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  i don't think xorg.conf is managed by debconf
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Ah, okay.  Any additional things that need to be installed?
[11:25] <merp> Seveas:  It doesn't look anywhere.
[11:25] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  yes this should work for you i think
[11:25] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does that normally
[11:25] <dyrne> alpha254: streamripper is very handy but maybe not what you are looking for
[11:25] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, gucharmap to pick characters 
[11:25] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ OK trying
[11:25] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  yes that will just replace the existing file, it doesn't look at the data inside AFAIK
[11:25] <diso> !info Quake4
[11:25] <diso> SHIT
[11:25] <thepenguin> is file system your harddrive?
[11:25] <corvax> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:25] <merp> The CD says it's a source.
[11:25] <Eleaf> hmm
[11:25] <adriyel> diso, watch the language, and tell me the problem
[11:26] <merp> But, I've done an apt-get install ndiswrapper and it says it can't find it.
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Okay, will look into that.
[11:26] <kerneld> !apt key
[11:26] <ubotu> kerneld: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:26] <Eleaf> lol
[11:26] <Seveas> merhojt, yes, just reinstall the linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package <--
[11:26] <Seveas> merp*
[11:26] <two-way> hey everyone, new to the group
[11:26] <diso> er
[11:26] <corvax> no ndiswrapper-utils
[11:26] <Eleaf> hi
[11:27] <diso> fuck, do .run files work with ubuntu?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> sh whtever.run
[11:27] <dyrne> diso: sh filename.run may work
[11:27] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, ok i folder with the app names on them but inside the folders i only find .gz and text items
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> same as every other disrto, or chmod +x whtever.run ./whatever.run
[11:27] <Eleaf> diso, uhm... sure it should
[11:27] <eobanb> i'm guessing it's nvidia drivers
[11:27] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ it looks like there is no synaptics word in my xorg.conf file
[11:27] <_6ix_> Is there a way to read FAT32 partitions in Ubuntu?
[11:27] <corvax> apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:27] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ or touchpad
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> !vftat
[11:27] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[11:27] <merp> I think I got it.
[11:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell _6ix_ about vfat
[11:27] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, i found folders is what i meant sry
[11:27] <corvax> if youve got that your ok
[11:28] <eobanb> _6ix_, yes, you should just be able to mount it
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, No files in /usr/bin?
[11:28] <_6ix_> _jason, Thanks
[11:28] <_6ix_> eobanb, Thanks
[11:28] <LaMatita> this problem help me please!
[11:28] <LaMatita> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: Le seguenti firme non possono essere verificate a causa della non disponibilit della chiave pubblica: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[11:28] <diso> Press backspace
[11:28] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  this is what mine looks like  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8906
[11:28] <diso> NEVER PRESSBACKSPACE ON TERMINAL
[11:28] <Seveas> LaMatita, read the page you got that repo from
[11:29] <Seveas> diso, drop the caps...
[11:29] <amphi> diso: wtf?
[11:29] <Eleaf> uhh
[11:29] <LaMatita> ?
[11:29] <diso> sorry for caps
[11:29] <diso> im a moron
[11:29] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, i only find the programs that im not having problems finding in the user/bin
[11:29] <Eleaf> (lol)
[11:29] <Seveas> LaMatita, that is not a standard repo, you got it from some page. Read that page - it explains this error.
[11:30] <coolbeing> c
[11:30] <frodrigu> Hello, does anyone know how to run .m4a and .wma files in RhythmBox?
[11:30] <merp> ....
[11:30] <merp> Argh.
[11:30] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero the nv was supposed to be changed to nvidia or NVIDIA ?
[11:30] <LaMatita> ok... but for set my resolution at 1280x800?
[11:30] <corvax> frod yeah get  w32codecs
[11:30] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: I don't think it's cap sensitive there
[11:30] <Seveas> frodrigu, install w32codecs and gstreamer0.8-pitfdll (or use totem-xine or mplayer)
[11:31] <Seveas> !tell LaMatita about fixres
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Okay, try running 'updatedb', then try 'locate programname' again.
[11:31] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero well i changed nv to nvidia  and now the whole thing doe not load at all.. i get a graphical error and catnt do anythign now
[11:31] <coolbeing> alpha254 can you help ?>
[11:31] <diso> omg
[11:32] <flodine> there 714 people here no ones on 64 bit
[11:32] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: what kind of error messages does it give you?
[11:33] <corvax> merp you get that netowork going yet
[11:33] <jjjjjjj>  wdy... do i have to uninstall firefox 1.07 before downing and installing 1.5?  tia
[11:33] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero one sec
[11:33] <jjjjjjj> howdy
[11:33] <_jason> jjjjjjj: no, keep 1.07
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> jjjjjjj, No.
[11:33] <soundray> flodine, what about 64 bit?
[11:33] <_jason> jjjjjjj: are you following the wiki for 1.5/
[11:33] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, how do u run updatedb?
[11:33] <jjjjjjj> no, as in do not install 1.5?
[11:34] <corvax> short type it
[11:34] <corvax> into terminal
[11:34] <flodine> 64 bit people wake up i need help
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> jjjjjjj, You can, but don't uninstall 1.07
[11:34] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, im sry im such a noob, man
[11:34] <_jason> jjjjjjj: no you can install 1.5, but you should keep 1.07
[11:34] <soundray> flodine, how about if you ask your question?
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Applications > Accessories > Terminal, then type it just like that.
[11:34] <freakazoid3333> what kind of help floodline?
[11:34] <bimberi> soundray: gee that's radical idea :P
[11:34] <ZephyrXero> jjjjjjj: you'll want to keep ff 1.07 as some things in Ubuntu are coded to just work with it (unless you're running dapper)
[11:34] <jjjjjjj> wheres the wiki for 1.5?
[11:34] <freakazoid3333> sorry flodline
[11:35] <jjjjjjj> gotcha
[11:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell jjjjjjj about ff1.5
[11:35] <soundray> bimberi, the world needs them :)
[11:35] <bimberi> soundray: :)
[11:35] <flodine> need help with nvidia 64 bit drivers apt-get command
[11:35] <DanC_u> hmm... dist-upgrade to dapper seems hosed
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> jjjjjjj, A lot of other things depend on Firefox and the Gecko engine within, so they'll still be looking for 1.07 and would break if you remove it.  Adding 1.5 is entirely safe, but you'll need some launcher/symlink magic to run it easily, thankfully all described on the wiki.
[11:36] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero failed to star X sever and then that there is an error in the xorg.conf
[11:36] <jjjjjjj> oopes
[11:36] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, it says im not authorized to create a default slocate database
[11:36] <DanC_u> maybe it'll just take 2 phases
[11:36] <_jason> shortjollio: sudo updatedb
[11:36] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: does it have a line number or anything telling you what's wrong with the xorg.conf, when I did it somehow an odd extra character got added into mine that I had to go back and remove to get it to work
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Right, sorry.  Use sudo.
[11:36] <flodine> ok i asked and now what
[11:37] <bobbyd> hi
[11:37] <OCA|> If someone uses the disk manager (system->administration->disks) and removes his boot and home partitions, and immediately realises his error, is there a way to undo it?
[11:37] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero one sec
[11:37] <bobbyd> has anyone managed to get the audio in flash in firefox to bbe *completely* in sync?
[11:37] <Seveas> bobbyd, no
[11:37] <soundray> flodine, come back when you've snapped out of it and are able to give a precise description of the problem.
[11:38] <bobbyd> Seveas, it's a pain in the ass :(
[11:38] <Seveas> bobbyd, poke macromedia if you want it fixed - long live closed source...
[11:38] <ZephyrXero> Speaking of Firefox 1.5, anyone know why the Ubuntu edition of it in dapper has automatic updates disabled? Does Ubuntu really think they need that much damn control over what we're running?
[11:38] <MrKeuner> wastrel/ thank you very much for your help. that did it. I created a touchpad input section and added that to the server layout. thanks again.
[11:38] <psycose> hi all, do you know guys how can i get direct rendering ON with X.Org 7 and Matroc G400 dual head
[11:38] <frodrigu> Does anyone know of a player that will organize playlists by artist and id3 tag (kind of like rhythm box)?
[11:38] <bobbyd> Seveas, it's crap for google video, but I her the new version of flash is quite different...
[11:38] <ZephyrXero> bobbyd: I'm hoping that that'll be fixed whenever they finally release Flash8 for linux :/
[11:38] <_jason> frodrigu: amarok
[11:39] <jjjjjjj> woah... 1154KB/Sec
[11:39] <wastrel> MrKeuner:  np was a learning experience for me ;] 
[11:39] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, ok am i looking for a .deb file?
[11:39] <MrKeuner> frodrigu/ did you try quod libet?
[11:39] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero (ww) warning (ee) error (NI) not implemented (??) unknown
[11:39] <mattwestm> how do I make it so that my other partitions don't mount or show up on the desktop on startup?
[11:39] <corvax> does the audion in gnash stay in sync?
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> ZephyrXero, Might be because of issues with guaranteeing support.  (?)
[11:40] <_jason> mattwestm: app menu > system tools > config editor: apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible unchecked
[11:40] <ZephyrXero> This is why I hate the repository system.... bleh
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, No, and executable binary if it's already installed.  A .deb would be what it installed from.
[11:40] <_jason> mattwestm: that's to make them not show up, if you don't want them to automount, use the noauto option in your fstab
[11:41] <ZephyrXero> they should just install a general purpose gecko library in the distro and let FF do what it wants
[11:41] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero I guess i just have these options left: SUSE PClinuxOS or back to damn Windows xp
[11:41] <ZephyrXero> well, do you have to have 3D acceleration?
[11:42] <shortjollio> no executable but there is a .deb
[11:42] <ViGiLnT> the last one is not an option!
[11:42] <ViGiLnT> :P
[11:42] <mattwestm> where do I put the noauto option in the fstab?
[11:42] <setuid> Why did Ubuntu's packagers break cups and lpr?
[11:42] <_jason> mattwestm: in the options column
[11:42] <setuid> mattwestm: In the 'options' column
[11:42] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: I would suggest going back to Ubuntu Breezy since Dapper's still testing and may be at fault here too
[11:42] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero not really, but I REALLY want to make it so that my laptop fan will stop working as if I am playing a game in full 3D mode, that is the problem with UBUNTU
[11:42] <_jason> mattwestm: put your fstab in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if you want
[11:43] <corvax> im using cups just fine
[11:43] <corvax> what version
[11:43] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero breezy does not work with my hardware hotplug issue
[11:43] <ZephyrXero> hrmm....
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Okay, well maybe you found a freak package.  You can install a .deb with 'sudo dpkg -i /filepath/filename.deb'.  I think you can open them in Archive Manager too so you'll know what file you're looking for.
[11:43] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero I am doomed
[11:43] <ZephyrXero> I would suggest perhaps taking your problem to the ubuntuforums then, you'll probably get better help there than in this chat ;)
[11:44] <normal> Do I have to login as root to install something I downloaded?
[11:44] <corvax> its funny the things people cry over now
[11:44] <corvax> remever back in the day whatit was like
[11:44] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:44] <wastrel> setuid:  #ubuntu-devel folks might have more insight on your question :] 
[11:44] <corvax> trying to run a linux box
[11:44] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero nah.. too much hastel for a simple thing liek this for anoob like me. I am looking for a noob firendly distro and if basic does nto work I move on
[11:44] <corvax> as a desktop
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> normal, Nah, use sudo.
[11:44] <soundray> coolbeing, I doubt that your problem is an Ubuntu one. More likely a buggy ACPI bios.
[11:44] <Madpilot> normal: use sudo
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> ubotu, tell normal about sudo
[11:44] <snoozix> hm, transfering mp3s to my mobile mp3 player sometimes screws up files, they jump to another song within one single file e.g. and i don't know why - any suggestion?
[11:44] <padmini> hi all - a couple of hours ago I was talking to someone who helped me out re: upgrading hoary to breezy
[11:45] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: pm just for a second?
[11:45] <ZephyrXero> well, I don't think you'll find a more noob friendly distro than Ubuntu at the moment... perhaps give it another try when Dapper is officially released ;)
[11:45] <mattwestm> _jason: here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8909
[11:45] <normal> Thanks for the help
[11:45] <padmini> could someone take a quick look at my sources.list and tell me whether it worked?
[11:45] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, when i open it in archive manager it has gz files and debian-binary
[11:45] <coolbeing> ZephyrXero Suse and pclinuxos were the top noob frienly ones
[11:46] <_jason> mattwestm: do you know what to do?  just look at how the other lines have noauto there
[11:46] <jjjjjjj> on at cli where is my home directory?  user@edubuntu:~$  ??
[11:46] <ZephyrXero> coolbeing: well my first distro was slackware, so Ubuntu is a breeze in comparison :P
[11:46] <mattwestm> _jason: thanks
[11:46] <biovore> ~ is your home dir
[11:46] <biovore> pwd
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, Okay, a debian binary sounds good, doesn't it?
[11:46] <setuid> wastrel: Ubuntu is a mess
[11:47] <jjjjjjj> so just go cd ~ and it'll take me there.?
[11:47] <jverdugo> hola
[11:47] <biovore> yup
[11:47] <setuid> eye-candy apparently took priority over functionality
[11:47] <jjjjjjj> thx
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> jjjjjjj, Yep.  ~ = /home/username/
[11:47] <biovore> pwd show the current directory
[11:47] <jverdugo> alguien de spain
[11:47] <jjjjjjj> right... i remember reading that in man
[11:47] <jverdugo> hola necesito ayuda
[11:47] <jverdugo> s.o.s
[11:48] <normal> I have a program untarred in a folder on my desktop and I think I just need to move it to the right folder to make it "work"..If so, which folder?
[11:48] <wastrel> setuid:  it's working ok for me at the moment :]   autodetected my laptop hardware pretty good...
[11:48] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, yes yes.
[11:48] <frodrigu> Hello, my amarok is giving me a GStreamer error when i try to play a .m4a file. is there a way to fix this?
[11:48] <setuid> wastrel: cups/lpr has been butchered
[11:48] <setuid> Doesn't even function at all
[11:48] <vitin> anybody have java mustang beta running?
[11:48] <trustnon> install gstreamer librarys
[11:48] <corvax> cups is dead in dapper?
[11:49] <delaney> is quicktime playing in dapper yet?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  its here on mine.
[11:49] <corvax> setuid  in deapper?
[11:49] <setuid> corvax: In Breezy
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> shortjollio, All right, so try it, update again for locate, and look for that file I guess.
[11:49] <corvax> works fine for me
[11:49] <setuid> Dapper has a huge list of other problems (Xorg for example, will lock up any 3D-enabled machine using DRI)
[11:49] <frodrigu> it says something/dsp is "already in use"
[11:50] <jjjjjjj> oops, never had firefox closed when i was doing the upgrade.
[11:50] <shortjollio> tonyyarusso, k
[11:50] <soundray> setuid, are you looking for a solution?
[11:51] <jjjjjjj> firefox ya.... :-/
[11:51] <setuid> soundray: I'm googling for hacks to work around it, found one so far:
[11:51] <setuid> https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/1999-June/msg00233.html
[11:51] <setuid> and
[11:51] <setuid> http://dramor.blogspot.com/2004/12/todays-stupid-trick-on-ubuntu.html
[11:51] <setuid> Working on the other problems with cups/lpr now
[11:51] <brosioz> which is the default mailserver on ubuntu exim4 ?
[11:51] <setuid> # lpq
[11:51] <setuid> lpq: lp: unknown printer
[11:51] <setuid> grr
[11:51] <padmini> whois gnomefreak
[11:51] <soundray> setuid, have you installed cupsys-bsd?
[11:52] <setuid> soundray: Nope, that package directly conflicts with cupsys-client, so I left it uninstalled.
[11:52] <corvax> if you have a problem with it grab it from debian
[11:52] <vivaldini> how do i connect #ubuntu-br??
[11:52] <corvax> use pinning
[11:52] <brosioz> which is the default mailserver on ubuntu exim4 ?
[11:52] <corvax> to avoid probs
[11:52] <setuid> Ok, lpr/lpq works now, after hand-modifying printcap
[11:52] <Madpilot> vivaldini: /join #ubuntu-br
[11:53] <vivaldini> thanks madpilot
[11:53] <soundray> setuid, I have both installed with no conflict.
[11:54] <corvax> i have   Installed: 1.1.23-10ubuntu4
[11:54] <corvax> 
[11:54] <taylor_> what is the best type of file to compress  files with? i wanna get some files signifigantly smaller
[11:54] <alpha254> b2zip
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> taylor_,  depends on the files also.
[11:54] <trustnon> tar.gz
[11:54] <taylor_> would rar be smaller?
[11:55] <vivaldini> b2zip
[11:55] <_jason> try them all and choose the best :)
[11:55] <setuid> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[11:55] <setuid>   lpr
[11:55] <setuid> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[11:55] <setuid>   cupsys-bsd
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> rar could be smaller.. but it dependsd on lots of things
[11:55] <setuid> So... it conflicts
[11:55] <jjjjjjj> i typed firefox in my terminal....firefox did start but i got a blinking cursor.  do i just close the window?
[11:55] <setuid> If you have both installed, you forced the install
[11:55] <taylor_> ok so if they .exe files and source files for windows what would i use?
[11:55] <soundray> setuid, you describe a conflict between cupsys-bsd and lpr, not cupsys-bsd and cupsys-client.
[11:55] <eobanb> jjjjjjj, firefox is running as a child process of the terminal window.  if you close the terminal window, firefox will also close.
[11:56] <snoozix> damn, why do i have to move files on my usb mass storage device to the trash first before i can delete them? it takes ages.
[11:56] <eobanb> jjjjjjj, what you can do is firefox &
[11:56] <setuid> soundray: I require (as does printing) the commands lpr, lpq, lprm.
[11:56] <crouchingMonkey> anyone know why my exmule will completeley shut down after i start it ?
[11:56] <setuid> Installing cupsys-bsd removes these
[11:56] <setuid> Thus, breaking printing
[11:56] <jjjjjjj> thx eobanb
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> use 'exit' dont just click the X close button. :P
[11:56] <rchaffer> hey can anyone help me with a bit of a n00b problem
[11:56] <soundray> setuid, I have cupsys-bsd and cupsys-client, and no lpr, and I can print fine with lpr -p lp
[11:56] <kerneld> Whats the 2006 apt signing key ID?  I can oly find the 2005 key on the wiki
[11:56] <_jason> rchaffer: just ask
[11:56] <jjjjjjj> exit dont work
[11:56] <soundray> setuid, several packages provide those, including cupsys-bsd
[11:57] <rchaffer> thx - I'm using xfce and rox-filer
[11:57] <Seveas> kerneld, ubuntu does not change keys yearly...
[11:57] <rchaffer> and whenever i try and move files
[11:57] <jjjjjjj> ah... closing firefox closed my terminal window too
[11:57] <rchaffer> into other folders
[11:57] <rchaffer>  (this is on ubuntu btw_
[11:57] <rchaffer> it denies it because i'm not root
[11:57] <kerneld> OK, must be complaining about another repo (The deb.opera.com)
[11:57] <soundray> setuid, it seems to me that your slagging-off of ubuntu is poorly founded :)
[11:57] <rchaffer> is there anyway of stopping it from denying it
[11:57] <setuid> soundray: Nope
[11:57] <rchaffer> eg giving myself more rights
[11:57] <corvax>  apt-cache policy lpr
[11:58] <corvax> lpr:
[11:58] <corvax>   Installed: (none)
[11:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell rchaffer about enter
[11:58] <corvax> and im printing right now
[11:58] <soundray> setuid, you are making things too difficult for yourself.
[11:58] <vivaldini> how do i listening mp3?
[11:58] <_jason> rchaffer: stick to moving files in your $HOME
[11:58] <Seveas> !tell vivaldini about mp3
[11:59] <rchaffer> this is - it's moving it to subfolders within home
[11:59] <soundray> setuid, breezy is *exceedingly* well tested. If something doesn't work out of the box, it is usually a matter of installing some extra package.
[11:59] <_jason> rchaffer: ls -l /path/to/folder, what does that say?
[11:59] <_jason> rchaffer: ls -dl /path/to/folder, what does that say?
[11:59] <corvax> cups doesnt need lpr