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| toma | taking a shower that long cant be healthy | 12:51 |
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| Hobbsee | toma: what??? | 12:54 |
| toma | at 22:39 we were kindly informed that mornfall was going to take a shower. He has not reported back since. I'm worried. | 12:55 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 12:56 |
| Hobbsee | maybe he drowned? | 12:56 |
| toma | you never know, dangerous times.. ;-) | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:57 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: did you see that "tabbed windows" effect I found? | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | looking | 01:04 |
| Tm_T | sort of hilarious even | 01:04 |
| Tm_T | make maximized apps really easy to see | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | hehe true | 01:05 |
| Tm_T | just have to find out how to trigger that titlebar move or fix it, it doesn't happen easy enough | 01:05 |
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| Flosoft | Riddel: Hey, I just noticed .. the flosoft.kubuntu.org.uk doesn't work anymore ... so there is a dead link on your site | 01:56 |
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| Flosoft | Riddel: just mail me about it: admin@flosoft.biz | 02:10 |
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| mornfall | freeflying: 'lo | 08:27 |
| freeflying | mornfall: hi | 08:28 |
| mornfall | freeflying: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/libapt-front_0.3.7.tar.gz and http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.90.tar.gz | 08:28 |
| mornfall | freeflying: if you are brave to compile (these shouldn't be much of a problem) | 08:28 |
| mornfall | or you may want till Riddell gets them uploaded | 08:28 |
| freeflying | mornfall: I can not link to your site | 08:28 |
| mornfall | +to wait | 08:28 |
| mornfall | freeflying: hm? | 08:28 |
| freeflying | if you'd like mail me . I'd comile for myself use | 08:29 |
| mornfall | let me copy to p.fd.o | 08:30 |
| mornfall | freeflying: http://people.freedesktop.org/~mornfall/libapt-front_0.3.7.tar.gz and http://people.freedesktop.org/~mornfall/ept_1.90.tar.gz | 08:31 |
| freeflying | mornfall: got it .thx | 08:33 |
| seaLne | Riddell: is there a reason some of the files in http://kubuntu.org/packages/hoary-kde343/pool-hoary/ 403? for instance kdesk/* and kdevelop3/* | 08:35 |
| seaLne | kdesdk/* | 08:35 |
| freeflying | mornfall: why the is libapt-front_0.3.7 not libapt-front-0.3.7 | 08:37 |
| mornfall | possibly because it's a debian source package? | 08:38 |
| mornfall | use debuild and install libapt-front-dev | 08:38 |
| mornfall | same for ept | 08:38 |
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| mornfall | re | 09:40 |
| mornfall | (iow hi from office) | 09:41 |
| mornfall | freeflying: how goes? | 09:41 |
| freeflying | mornfall: fails to build due to some problems of my source.list | 09:41 |
| mornfall | bah | 09:42 |
| freeflying | mornfall: I'd like waiting for Riddell upload them | 09:42 |
| mornfall | it shouldn't particularly care about sources.list while building | 09:42 |
| mornfall | but ok | 09:42 |
| freeflying | mornfall: because of the problem of mirror I using now ,some package can not be download now | 09:43 |
| mornfall | ok | 09:44 |
| freeflying | anyone work on Xgl for kde now ? | 09:44 |
| mornfall | this leads us to the question: where's Riddell? i'd guess he is hiding from the crowd of people wanting to push stuff into dapper before freeze :p | 09:44 |
| mornfall | Xgl = lame | 09:44 |
| freeflying | mornfall: it's eyecandy . atfer all | 09:45 |
| mornfall | eyecandy, possibly | 09:45 |
| freeflying | mornfall: people need it | 09:46 |
| mornfall | people need smacking over head, not xgl ;-) | 09:46 |
| mornfall | --> breakfast (sortof) | 09:47 |
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| Hobbsee | argh...what was the mouse fix? | 09:51 |
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| freeflying | can you use mysql-server-5 on your system | 09:52 |
| mornfall | Tm_T: what tabbed windows? | 09:56 |
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| Tm_T | mornfall: http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_108.png | 09:57 |
| Tm_T | from 107 to 110 actually | 09:58 |
| Tm_T | mornfall: no really tabbed windows but looks like it :) | 09:58 |
| mornfall | aha | 09:58 |
| mornfall | old news :) | 09:58 |
| Tm_T | sure | 09:58 |
| Tm_T | have to modernizate (err what a word) b2 style | 09:59 |
| mornfall | it's modernize | 09:59 |
| Tm_T | ah yes | 09:59 |
| Tm_T | anyway, you might see soon "bz" windeco ;) | 10:00 |
| mornfall | bz? | 10:00 |
| Tm_T | beOS Zeta | 10:00 |
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| mornfall | hmm, less clutter | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | I might buy Zeta soon | 10:02 |
| mornfall | what good is it? | 10:03 |
| Tm_T | well, with livecd: 30s boot and voila, 3d and all works | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | surprisingly light | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | made for graphig & video etc | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | erg, typos | 10:05 |
| mornfall | yay, new rsibreak *compiles* | 10:11 |
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| viviersf | Riddell : ping | 10:31 |
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| Tonio_ | hi all | 10:35 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: hi | 10:36 |
| mornfall | 'lo | 10:40 |
| Riddell | viviersf: hi | 10:43 |
| mornfall | hey Riddell | 10:43 |
| viviersf | hi Riddell , tell me whats the chances in the kde packages | 10:43 |
| raphink | hi | 10:43 |
| mornfall | channel waking up? | 10:43 |
| viviersf | of putting that gnome version of kde apps dont show | 10:44 |
| viviersf | or go into a seperate place | 10:44 |
| viviersf | or sumthing ? | 10:44 |
| mornfall | slim | 10:44 |
| raphink | Riddell: did you upload the fix for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdesdk/+bug/31782 yet? | 10:44 |
| mornfall | unless you have a tested patch | 10:44 |
| mornfall | since it's a freeze this week :) | 10:44 |
| mornfall | haha i so predicted this | 10:44 |
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| raphink | hi Hobbsee | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | hey raphink | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | you want to shoot my wireless card please? | 10:46 |
| raphink | Riddell: ping | 10:46 |
| Riddell | raphink: yes I uploaded it but I think it's still in manual dep-wait | 10:46 |
| Riddell | so infinity needs to mark it to build again | 10:47 |
| raphink | ok thanks :) | 10:47 |
| raphink | cause I don't see it on LP :s | 10:47 |
| Riddell | viviersf: changes in which kde packages? | 10:47 |
| === raphink wonders what's going on lately | ||
| raphink | NEW packages uploaded 2 weeks ago are not yet built... | 10:47 |
| Riddell | hi mornfall, compiling libapt-front and ept now | 10:47 |
| Riddell | raphink: that'll be the change to soyuz | 10:48 |
| mornfall | :-) | 10:48 |
| raphink | Riddell: I guess | 10:48 |
| raphink | it doesn't make things easier so far :( | 10:49 |
| viviersf | Riddell, i dunno | 10:49 |
| viviersf | im just seeing | 10:50 |
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| viviersf | when you have both kde and gnome installed | 10:50 |
| viviersf | you have a TON of symilair apps | 10:50 |
| viviersf | soz my spelling sux | 10:50 |
| Riddell | viviersf: well yes, kde and gnome are two projects doing essentially the same thing | 10:51 |
| viviersf | heh i know that | 10:51 |
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| viviersf | im just trying to figure out a way so the menus wont be so cluttered | 10:52 |
| Riddell | only install KDE | 10:52 |
| mornfall | :-)) | 10:55 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: what about the situation on the dpi setting ? | 11:05 |
| Tonio_ | I saw the xsettings-kde has been patched, but because I don't have internet at home actually, I haven't been able to get informations this WE | 11:05 |
| Riddell | _Sime: was going to include some code in the guidance script | 11:06 |
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| chmj | Riddell: ping | 11:10 |
| Riddell | hi chmj | 11:11 |
| Riddell | freeflying: your qt seems to compile and run well, have you had any problems with it | 11:12 |
| Riddell | ? | 11:12 |
| freeflying | Riddell: not yet | 11:12 |
| viviersf | Riddell, erm i cant just install kde :( | 11:12 |
| chmj | Riddell: deKorator has not been packaged, yes ? | 11:13 |
| Riddell | viviersf: why not? | 11:13 |
| Riddell | chmj: not that I know of | 11:13 |
| viviersf | nope chmj | 11:13 |
| chmj | Riddell: k then, I will upload it soon | 11:13 |
| Riddell | chmj: great | 11:14 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I'd test more | 11:14 |
| viviersf | Riddell, erm cos boss's decided that impi = kde + gnome | 11:14 |
| viviersf | :/ | 11:14 |
| Riddell | in which case you will get duplication | 11:14 |
| viviersf | ya | 11:14 |
| viviersf | which sux | 11:14 |
| chmj | Riddell: btw, you never uploaded aasaver ? | 11:18 |
| Riddell | chmj: where can I get i? | 11:19 |
| Riddell | it? | 11:19 |
| Riddell | no I didn't | 11:19 |
| chmj | Riddell: k, will do it | 11:19 |
| Riddell | cool | 11:19 |
| viviersf | lol | 11:20 |
| viviersf | chmj is working for a change :P | 11:20 |
| Riddell | viviersf: hay, that's royalty you're talking about | 11:21 |
| chmj | viviersf: grrr, just going through my ubuntu-todo list | 11:21 |
| freeflying | my mini-dinstall give follow errors :Exception: 'gpgv exited with error code 2' | 11:21 |
| viviersf | lol chmj | 11:21 |
| freeflying | so how shall I do for that | 11:21 |
| viviersf | dekorator came from me | 11:21 |
| chmj | Riddell: damn straight | 11:21 |
| freeflying | Riddell: any suggestion? | 11:22 |
| chmj | viviersf: sure, "charles you have to package xyz, do it now! god dammit!" | 11:22 |
| chmj | :-/ | 11:22 |
| Riddell | freeflying: do you have gpg installed? | 11:22 |
| Tm_T | uh oh | 11:22 |
| viviersf | chmj, heh | 11:22 |
| freeflying | Riddell: gnupg? | 11:22 |
| viviersf | thats your job | 11:22 |
| Riddell | freeflying: yes | 11:22 |
| Tm_T | looks like I'm slowly getting into this windeco | 11:23 |
| freeflying | Riddell: sure I have | 11:23 |
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| mornfall | hmm | 11:32 |
| Riddell | freeflying-ibook: I don't actually know what mini-dinstall is | 11:34 |
| freeflying-ibook | Riddell: I kust setup a local repo, and upload source package s ,then it will build it automatically | 11:35 |
| Riddell | mornfall: adept_installer rocks severely | 12:07 |
| Riddell | mornfall: .desktop file is broken though, poits to adept-installer not adept_installe | 12:08 |
| Riddell | adept_installer | 12:08 |
| mornfall | bahmpf | 12:08 |
| mornfall | i knew i forgot to test something | 12:08 |
| mornfall | can you flip that? i fixed it locally | 12:09 |
| Riddell | will do | 12:09 |
| mornfall | thx | 12:09 |
| Riddell | mornfall: none of the icons for the applications show thouh | 12:10 |
| Riddell | though | 12:10 |
| mornfall | hmm weird | 12:10 |
| mornfall | there's no updater icon | 12:10 |
| mornfall | err | 12:10 |
| mornfall | no installer icon | 12:10 |
| mornfall | but others should work? | 12:10 |
| Riddell | yes | 12:10 |
| Riddell | but in the running adept-installer none of the applications have icons | 12:11 |
| Riddell | the ones at the side do show | 12:11 |
| mornfall | oh hmm | 12:11 |
| mornfall | completely no icons? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | ah, the icons for programs that are installed work | 12:12 |
| mornfall | well, can you look at gnome icons? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | but for programmes that are not installed it just shows the blank icon | 12:12 |
| mornfall | most kde icons are missing in app-install-data | 12:12 |
| Riddell | right | 12:13 |
| Riddell | yes, some icons show and some don't looking at gnome | 12:13 |
| Riddell | no Devhelp, but Glade has one | 12:13 |
| Riddell | so just app-install-data being incomplete I suppose | 12:15 |
| mornfall | well, gnome-app-install depends on gnome-icon-theme for gnome icons | 12:15 |
| mornfall | and those apps that are not there have icons in app-install-data | 12:15 |
| Riddell | right | 12:15 |
| Riddell | I wonder if there's a way to not show any icon instead of the blank icon if there's no icon found | 12:16 |
| mornfall | i'd say adept could depend on kde-icons-crystal, but we need the app icons added to app-install-data | 12:16 |
| mornfall | Riddell: maybe use the "executable" icon (gear?) | 12:16 |
| mornfall | no icon would look weird | 12:16 |
| Riddell | yep | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | chmj: what's this about aasaver? ie, asciiquarium? | 12:22 |
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| seaLne | Riddell: are the permissions on http://kubuntu.org/packages/hoary-kde343/pool-hoary/ kdesdk/* and kdevelop3/* intentional? | 12:23 |
| Riddell | mornfall: I'm not sure about quitting after applying changes | 12:23 |
| freeflying-ibook | Riddell: there no OSD for fn+Fx on kubuntu ppc | 12:23 |
| Riddell | seaLne: certainly isn't, try now | 12:25 |
| seaLne | Riddell: looks fine, now i was just extending my mirroring to all of /packages and noticed that | 12:25 |
| Riddell | freeflying-ibook: hmm, probably kmilo should do that, but I've no idea if kmilo works on powerpc | 12:26 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ftp://mirror.cis.strath.ac.uk/kubuntu is mirrored a few times a day | 12:26 |
| freeflying-ibook | Riddell: it can work in flight-3 livecd | 12:28 |
| chmj | Hobbsee: yes | 12:28 |
| mornfall | Riddell: you think it should return to original screen? | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | chmj: how far did you get with it? | 12:29 |
| Riddell | mornfall: yeah, that's what I'd expect it to do | 12:29 |
| chmj | Hobbsee: its uploaded | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | ok | 12:29 |
| mornfall | Riddell: dunnow... it was meant to be a wizard-style thingy | 12:30 |
| mornfall | i'll think about it | 12:30 |
| Riddell | seaLne: excellent, thanks | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | chmj: i had a version which built, but which wasnt working - now i wont have to fiddle with it! | 12:34 |
| chmj | Hobbsee: can you test mine once it has built? | 12:37 |
| chmj | I tested it, worked for me. | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | chmj: sure, will do, but dishes first | 12:37 |
| chmj | eheh | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | back | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | stupid dishes - all of 10 of them... | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | chmj: it's on revu? | 12:45 |
| chmj | Hobbsee: no | 12:46 |
| chmj | Hobbsee: its in the archive | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | chmj: right, how do i test it then? the archive...hmm...how do i get there? | 12:47 |
| === Hobbsee feels very slow tonight | ||
| mornfall | apt-get? :) | 12:47 |
| Riddell | unless it's in NEW | 12:48 |
| chmj | Hobbsee: wait for it to build first, it hasn't built | 12:48 |
| mornfall | if it's in the archive it's probably not new? | 12:48 |
| chmj | Riddell: its still in NEW | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | ok | 12:48 |
| mornfall | someone must have changed meaning of archive while i was looking the other way | 12:48 |
| chmj | mornfall: ma bad | 12:48 |
| Tonio_ | if any motu has a few minutes to review this : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1885 | 12:49 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: moodin is in main | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | I overwritten the package from scratch cause jpatrick's one was ftbfs | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: great ;) | 12:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what's the statso your kubuntu-default-settings? | 12:50 |
| Riddell | status | 12:50 |
| Tonio_ | almost over | 12:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just need a new wallpaper, and maybe a little change in sounds | 12:50 |
| Tonio_ | the breaking glass noise isn't very appreciated apparently ! | 12:51 |
| Riddell | ok | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | apart from that, I included all that was discussed in the meeting | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | and concerning konversation, I rediscussed with the guys, and there are finally fine with the tabs on top | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | in order to have a logical desktop, so that all applications have to tabs at the same place | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | what about the xft.dpi ? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | with which guys? | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | the ones that where in the meeting (freeflying, hobbsee etc...) | 12:52 |
| Riddell | right | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | say what? | 12:53 |
| === Hobbsee reads up | ||
| Hobbsee | oh, yes, right...i still dont like the tabs up the top, but can deal with it hehe :P | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: about the tabs on top for konversation, wheren't you there when we rediscussed that ? | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | the final point was that the purpose of default settings was to provide something as logic and coherant as possible | 12:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I don't see any changes to guidance in SVN for xft dpi setting | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | i was there | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: so I think patchking kdmrc is actually the best solution, and the other one will be perfect for dapper+1 | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay with this? | 12:55 |
| freeflying-ibook | Riddell: Will have some test on add skim into kubuntu's install cd | 12:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no, we know how to do it with xrdb, just a case of if _Sime want to do clever stuff in guidance or if we just set it in startkde | 12:56 |
| Riddell | freeflying-ibook: we're waiting on the new anastasia script so things can be easily moved from main to universe | 12:56 |
| Riddell | err, from universe to main rather | 12:57 |
| freeflying-ibook | :) | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, so I don't inlude anything concerning dpi in kubuntu-desktop-settings | 12:59 |
| === Hobbsee goes to reopen a bug that she thought was fixed *sighs* | ||
| mornfall | elmo writing 'em? :-) | 01:00 |
| mornfall | (the scripts) | 01:00 |
| viviersf | Riddell, knetworkconf | 01:02 |
| viviersf | is still bugged | 01:02 |
| viviersf | with window size | 01:02 |
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| Hobbsee | Tm_T: ping | 01:05 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: any chance you could look at this and see if it could possibly be a package problem? or is this an upstream bug? it's marked as fixed, but i found it still existed... http://launchpad.net/bugs/30268 | 01:10 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: yes? | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: can you confirm http://launchpad.net/bugs/30268 in kopete 0.12 svn? | 01:11 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: you mean if one contact is in many groups? | 01:12 |
| Tm_T | hmm, never done that... | 01:12 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: idea is: add yahoo contact, copy into another group, sign out, sign back in, contact not online, delete from one group, contact suddenly online again | 01:13 |
| Tm_T | yup, I don't use yahoo, but I'll try with another protocol | 01:14 |
| Hobbsee | i've checked the other protocols - they dont have the bug, only yahoo | 01:15 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: have you build kopete-0.12 under dapper with jingle's support | 01:15 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: no luck so far | 01:15 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: I don't think that would be a packaging problem | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | ok, i'll reopen and mark it upstream then | 01:31 |
| mornfall | hmm | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: compiling the kde frontend for netswitch and testing ;) | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | I have 2 days for testing and get little corrections done, but the main part seems to be working | 01:43 |
| mornfall | how goes? :) | 01:50 |
| mornfall | kewl, 1.90 published | 01:51 |
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| andred | Hobbsee: works for me in kopete 0.12 | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | andred: as in, works as it's supposed to? or the bug is confirmed | 01:55 |
| andred | works as supposed to, both contacts appear onlince | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | ok | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | thanks :) | 01:56 |
| andred | np | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | night all... | 02:08 |
| Riddell | night Hobbsee | 02:09 |
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| Riddell | jjesse: adept (adept 1.90) installer is in, you should take a look at it for release notes and deskop guide | 02:44 |
| jjesse | Riddell: thanks will do | 02:44 |
| jpatrick | this knemo's pretty neat | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | hi jpatrick | 02:52 |
| jpatrick | hi Tonio_ :) | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: I overwritten your kleansweep package on revu........ | 02:52 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: never mind | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | sorry for this, but as it was ftbfs...... | 02:53 |
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| Tonio_ | jpatrick: look at the actual package if you want. | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | supposed to be clean, I think | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | eventually, you can revu it ^^ | 02:53 |
| jpatrick | I could while I wait for krusandar to build | 02:54 |
| freeflying | mornfall: adept is the same as it was, although I've installed the packages you provide me | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | ok | 02:55 |
| mornfall | freeflying: bah | 02:55 |
| mornfall | sucks | 02:55 |
| freeflying | mornfall: :) hmmm | 02:55 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: so that's how it's done | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: as you can see the set of rules is really dirty :) | 02:56 |
| mornfall | freeflying: so can you get backtrace of the running(frozen) app? | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | although there are many, many files to clean | 02:56 |
| freeflying | mornfall: I even can not attach to adep's thread | 02:57 |
| mornfall | freeflying: hmm? | 02:57 |
| mornfall | how so | 02:57 |
| freeflying | mornfall: I'd try again | 02:57 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: shouldn't it include kde.mk? | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | nope | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | scons and kde.mk never works | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | didn't you test before uploading ? | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | if it was packaging correctly ? | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | it is not very clean to upload ftbfs packages.......... ^^ | 02:59 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: I always pbuild | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | was it building correctly ? | 02:59 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: btw you've added your name twice to the docbooks.. | 02:59 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: no it didn't that's why I gave up | 02:59 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: the COPYRIGHT section | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: yes I added concerning the author part, and the copyright one | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | is that a problem ? | 03:00 |
| jpatrick | ...was written by Anthony Mercatante <email>tonio@ubuntu.com</email>... | 03:01 |
| jpatrick | then you have your email on the next line too | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | let me check | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: yes, as author and copyright holder.......... | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | that can be changed, right, but well, I don't think it is an "error" | 03:03 |
| jpatrick | so you add your email twice? | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | as in the copyright file | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | you add the mail for the author part, and again for the copyright one | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | is that a problem ? | 03:04 |
| jpatrick | ah ok | 03:04 |
| freeflying | mornfall: still can not attach to adept's thread | 03:07 |
| mornfall | what do you get? | 03:08 |
| freeflying | permission denied | 03:08 |
| mornfall | aaaaaaaaaargh | 03:08 |
| mornfall | sudo gdb | 03:08 |
| mornfall | of course | 03:08 |
| mornfall | :| | 03:08 |
| mornfall | you can't attach as user | 03:08 |
| mornfall | to root process | 03:08 |
| freeflying | mornfall: damn , I forget that . :( | 03:10 |
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| jeroenvrp | mornfall: are you there? | 03:12 |
| mornfall | apparently | 03:12 |
| jeroenvrp | great :-) | 03:12 |
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| mornfall | i may disappear if i find a near pizzeria tho | 03:13 |
| jeroenvrp | please check this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122348 | 03:13 |
| freeflying | mornfall: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8959 | 03:13 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: you mean the one i just replied to? | 03:13 |
| jeroenvrp | haha yes :-) | 03:13 |
| jeroenvrp | you are very fast | 03:13 |
| jeroenvrp | so the problem is known | 03:13 |
| mornfall | freeflying: can you please paste whole gdb output? from the invocation line | 03:14 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: well, known, i fixed a bunch of issues since 1.89 | 03:15 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: so it may be one of them | 03:15 |
| mornfall | i can't recall all the specific symptoms anymore | 03:15 |
| freeflying | mornfall: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8960 | 03:15 |
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| mornfall | freeflying: hmm, what is it doing? and when? can you also paste stderr? | 03:18 |
| freeflying | mornfall: after I kdesu ask for passwd | 03:18 |
| mornfall | errm | 03:19 |
| mornfall | i'd guess it ends up in .xsesssion-errors or something | 03:19 |
| mornfall | Riddell: any clue where the output ends up when running in kdesu? | 03:19 |
| Riddell | by default kdesu will eat it | 03:20 |
| mornfall | kewl | 03:20 |
| Riddell | recent versions in dapper should sent it to standard out | 03:20 |
| mornfall | freeflying? | 03:20 |
| freeflying | mornfall: just a moment | 03:21 |
| freeflying | mornfall: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8961 | 03:22 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: ping | 03:23 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8962 -< it's for you | 03:24 |
| mornfall | freeflying: so it locks up right on startup? | 03:24 |
| freeflying | mornfall: yeah | 03:24 |
| Tm_T | ugh | 03:24 |
| freeflying | mornfall: just like it used be | 03:24 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: got it ? | 03:24 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: yup | 03:24 |
| Tm_T | err, msn plugin, but problem is... | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the knetswitch should be working tomorrow, the upstream is gonna polish the work and test till then... | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | I'm gonna package everything tomorrow and then testing with all guys here available......... | 03:25 |
| jpatrick | MOTU KDE - the first step for world domination ;-) | 03:26 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: cool | 03:27 |
| mornfall | freeflying: and it's same with all adept apps right? | 03:27 |
| freeflying | mornfall: y | 03:27 |
| mornfall | even installer? | 03:27 |
| mornfall | arch=i386? | 03:28 |
| freeflying | mornfall: i386 | 03:29 |
| mornfall | and amd64 cpu right? | 03:30 |
| freeflying | mornfall: haven't test installer , system is today's freshinstall | 03:30 |
| freeflying | mornfall: yeah' | 03:30 |
| mornfall | adept_installer | 03:30 |
| mornfall | try it please... | 03:30 |
| mornfall | (it's in same package as adept) | 03:30 |
| mornfall | anyone else with amd64 cpu running i386 dapper here? | 03:31 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8963 more details | 03:32 |
| freeflying | mornfall: freeze again | 03:33 |
| mornfall | freeflying: the installer? interesting | 03:33 |
| mornfall | freeflying: installer's stdout? | 03:33 |
| freeflying | mornfall: y | 03:33 |
| mornfall | after looking at that, i run to get some food | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: ok, I have no idea | 03:36 |
| Tm_T | freeflying: try #kopete ;) | 03:36 |
| freeflying | mornfall: maybe I'll give you later | 03:36 |
| mornfall | bah | 03:36 |
| mornfall | --> lunch | 03:36 |
| freeflying | --->bed soon | 03:37 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: can you look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1888 ? | 03:38 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 03:41 |
| jpatrick | just spotted that I forgot myself in debian/copyright | 03:41 |
| jpatrick | fixed | 03:44 |
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| Tonio_ | jpatrick: revu done, few fixes required ;) | 04:08 |
| jeroenvrp | mornfall: hoe long will it take you think teh new adept will be in the dapper-repos - i'm very curious | 04:35 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: when you're doing kubuntu-default-settings, could you look at the amarok sidebar theme? it doesn't seem to get picked up | 04:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no pb | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | that wallpaper search makes me crazy......... | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | I will finish by doing it by myself :) | 04:41 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: don't spend too much time on the wallpaper, as I say canonical are getting something made | 04:45 |
| freeflying | night all | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: great ;) | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: a few tests toonight and you might get the package tomorrow then | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have done a patch for the kicker systemapplet too that requires a few tests toonight, I will let you know | 04:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: with what changes? | 04:55 |
| Tonio_ | doesn't use system:/, resolves the "copy everything to temp" problem | 04:56 |
| Tonio_ | it will normally work exactly as it was working with kde 3.4.2 | 04:56 |
| Riddell | ah, interesting | 04:57 |
| Tonio_ | using real path of modules used and not the system:/ url binding | 04:57 |
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| Tonio_ | the only problem is that I don't have internet at home actually and I an't put dapper on my laptop, so it'll be a bit hard to test | 04:58 |
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| Tonio_ | any motu there ? I really would like to see kleansweep in dapper, it is one o the most popular apps on kde-apps.... | 05:09 |
| Tonio_ | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1885 | 05:09 |
| jpatrick | same here: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1890 | 05:09 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: i'm revuing this | 05:10 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: ping ? | 05:11 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: yes? | 05:11 |
| Tonio_ | same errors than for kautoclick | 05:11 |
| jpatrick | I saw them, thanks :) | 05:11 |
| Tonio_ | "licence" needs to be declared in debian/copyright | 05:11 |
| Tonio_ | well, I'm revuying and let you correct this ;) | 05:12 |
| jpatrick | just did that | 05:12 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: there's a guy in #kubuntu with an annoying name...... | 05:19 |
| mornfall | jeroenvrp: not a slightest idea | 05:22 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1890 few fixes required though | 05:25 |
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| jpatrick | Tonio_: it has no homepage | 05:31 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: the kde-look page is the homepage according to what I see ;) | 05:32 |
| Tonio_ | the upstream adds the new versions directly there | 05:33 |
| Tonio_ | so that's the homepage ;) | 05:33 |
| jpatrick | ah, ok then | 05:33 |
| jpatrick | how can a tiny package like kautoclick create so many problems... | 05:33 |
| Tonio_ | although the licence is an issue... all cpp files should contain the licence short text, and a copying file in the root of the source is greatly appreciated ;) | 05:34 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: what you should do I think is keeping a skeleton debian folder | 05:34 |
| jpatrick | skeleton? | 05:34 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 05:34 |
| jpatrick | what is that? | 05:35 |
| Tonio_ | a blanked one, but with all required sections in files | 05:35 |
| Tonio_ | that's the best solution not to miss anything | 05:35 |
| Tonio_ | for example with "Upstream Author: <add author here>" | 05:36 |
| Tonio_ | and same for everything required | 05:36 |
| Tonio_ | you will never miss anything with this | 05:36 |
| jpatrick | ah, I see :) | 05:36 |
| Tonio_ | that's the reason all mypackages ar so similar, I always use my skeleton for the basis, and then modify depending the package | 05:36 |
| jpatrick | will do that | 05:36 |
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| jpatrick | I used to copy from another package I'd done then modify | 05:37 |
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| raphink | :) | 05:37 |
| Tonio_ | I don't pretend to have the perfect solution, but as far as I know, working with skeletons is the bast solution I tried :) | 05:37 |
| raphink | lots of things to correct :( | 05:38 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: arf....... | 05:38 |
| raphink | would be cool if anyone could confirm the bugs I have | 05:39 |
| raphink | when are the testing pages on the wiki to be updated ? | 05:40 |
| raphink | they are for flight 3 currently :s | 05:40 |
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| jpatrick | Tonio_: what should I do about the COPYING file? | 05:49 |
| Tonio_ | poke upstream and ask for a new tarball fixed.... | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | that's the only solution | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: also, all cpp files should contain the licence informations too... | 05:53 |
| jpatrick | yeah | 05:53 |
| jpatrick | btw, I've left a comment for kleansweep | 05:54 |
| jpatrick | and can't kleansweep be launched as normal user? | 05:59 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: reuploaded kwin-style-crystal | 06:03 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: okay, I will revu toonight if I can get access to the net | 06:11 |
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| luka74 | Riddell: not sure if we should change kpowersave scripts | 06:23 |
| Riddell | luka74: hmm? | 06:23 |
| luka74 | they just do same stuff in more polished way | 06:24 |
| Riddell | yes, but it'll mean we get slightly different problems (which I don't want to be responsible for investigating) | 06:25 |
| luka74 | So you sugest that we just add our scripts, make them default and that is it? | 06:25 |
| Riddell | I suggest we make call pmi (or better, HAL) | 06:26 |
| Riddell | which will call the ubuntu scripts | 06:27 |
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| luka74 | I got some feedback from debian packager - I can forward to you for review | 06:27 |
| luka74 | (he has also some concerns in replacing) | 06:27 |
| Riddell | sure | 06:28 |
| luka74 | we currently have old version - should I try make a new one or do you have some candidate that can do this | 06:28 |
| luka74 | and will it be possible to upgrade later to 0.6 when released in March with SuSE | 06:29 |
| Riddell | the new version was released after upstream version freeze | 06:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: packaging netswitch just right now, waiting for knetswitch tomorrow | 06:29 |
| Riddell | hmm, possibly not | 06:29 |
| luka74 | Riddell: forwarded 2 e-mails to your @ubuntu.com address | 06:34 |
| Riddell | luka74: interesting | 06:42 |
| Riddell | power management is complex damnit | 06:42 |
| luka74 | true :-( | 06:42 |
| luka74 | This is why I have concerns messing it with too much. | 06:43 |
| luka74 | Should we just try to offer latest & greatest kpowersave in universe? | 06:43 |
| luka74 | (and leave klaptop for now) | 06:43 |
| jeroenvrp | is de new package "keep" better than the official kde-backup utility: konserve ? | 06:48 |
| jeroenvrp | and I though kmplayer will be in the dapper-repos? | 06:48 |
| jeroenvrp | thought | 06:48 |
| Riddell | luka74: sure, if you can confirm that it works and want to ask for an upstream version freeze that would be great | 06:51 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: konserve is old and unmaintained | 06:51 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: I'm yet to get a working kmplayer package | 06:52 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: thanx | 06:52 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: I have a working kmplayer package here | 06:52 |
| jeroenvrp | never had any problems compiling it | 06:52 |
| jeroenvrp | have to log in and out | 06:53 |
| jeroenvrp | hold on | 06:53 |
| jpatrick | I was working on kmplayer..... | 06:59 |
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| jpatrick | Riddell: there is a working kmplayer package ar REVU | 07:05 |
| jpatrick | I just have to solve this .so problem | 07:05 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: has it changed from last time I looked at it? | 07:05 |
| jpatrick | yes, sistpoty and I went over it | 07:06 |
| Riddell | great | 07:07 |
| Riddell | however, no time for revu alas | 07:07 |
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| jpatrick | do you anything about .so file business? | 07:08 |
| Riddell | you missed a word there | 07:08 |
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| jpatrick | know* | 07:08 |
| Riddell | what's the problem? | 07:09 |
| jpatrick | he wants me to move them from /usr/lib to /usr/lib/kde3 | 07:11 |
| jpatrick | or similiar | 07:12 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: keep: "Fatal Error: Destination directory /home/jeroen/test exists, but does not look like a rdiff-backup directory." | 07:13 |
| jeroenvrp | rdiff-backup directory?? | 07:13 |
| jpatrick | better ask JRe | 07:15 |
| JRe | someone asked me ;) ? | 07:16 |
| jpatrick | JRe: jeroenvrp is having problems with Keep | 07:16 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: yes | 07:17 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: what's going on ? | 07:17 |
| jeroenvrp | after installing keep, it wants a rdiff-directory | 07:17 |
| jeroenvrp | but, how does the user know where to find that? | 07:17 |
| jeroenvrp | "Fatal Error: Destination directory /home/jeroen/test exists, but does not look like a rdiff-backup directory." | 07:17 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: I assume you have setted up a backup first ? | 07:17 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: yes | 07:17 |
| jeroenvrp | a small one | 07:17 |
| jeroenvrp | to test | 07:18 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: ok | 07:18 |
| jeroenvrp | or must it be a non existing directory? | 07:18 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: can you copy/past ~/.kde/share/config/keepbackuplist.rc on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ? | 07:19 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: ah yes that is it | 07:19 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: it's working now ? | 07:20 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: yes, when I fill as a target a non-existing directory | 07:20 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: in fact I think it should work with an existing, empty directory | 07:21 |
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| jeroenvrp | JRe: let's test that to | 07:21 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: I just tested it, and it seems to work | 07:21 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: so it doesn't work with non-empty directories? | 07:21 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: you are using the backup now button ? | 07:22 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: yes | 07:22 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: no it works | 07:22 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: yes that works, but it only fails in non-empty dirs | 07:23 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: yes that's right | 07:23 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: I add that on the website's FAQ | 07:23 |
| jeroenvrp | that's ok off coutse, but should 'keep' not simply check that | 07:23 |
| jeroenvrp | ? | 07:23 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: it should be documented but I am still seeking for someone to help me to do that ;) | 07:23 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: tough, I find that the current error message is pretty clear | 07:24 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: :-) if I had the time and my english was better, I would help you with that :-) | 07:24 |
| JRe | Running rdiff-backup like this could mess up what is currently in it. | 07:25 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: yes, but it is given when you use the 'backup now' | 07:25 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: in fact Keep is a front-end to another command line soft: rdiff-backup, the error message is the one of this application | 07:25 |
| jeroenvrp | it should be better (I think) to avoid that people to set the target directory to a not-empty and not-rdiff directory | 07:25 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: so I can't really handle that in a better way | 07:26 |
| jeroenvrp | ok i understand | 07:26 |
| jeroenvrp | maybe just a simple message in the wizard | 07:26 |
| jeroenvrp | ? | 07:26 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: if you have time enough, you could join the tester team ;) | 07:26 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: if I had the time yes :_) | 07:27 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: 0.4.0 is near and will handle fine tuned include/exclude rules :) | 07:27 |
| jeroenvrp | anyhow a good message can be: "Select a location to place the backup. Warning: Only use existing empty directores or allready existing rdiff-backup directories." | 07:28 |
| jeroenvrp | JRe: great!! | 07:28 |
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| jeroenvrp | anyway, is it possible to make external backups? | 07:28 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: what do you mean ? | 07:28 |
| jeroenvrp | on a remote system? | 07:29 |
| jeroenvrp | with fish off course | 07:29 |
| jeroenvrp | let me check that | 07:29 |
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| jeroenvrp | JRe: mm fish doesn't work | 07:32 |
| jeroenvrp | have to go | 07:33 |
| jeroenvrp | will be back later | 07:33 |
| jpatrick | cya jeroenvrp | 07:33 |
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| JRe | jeroenvrp: it could be possible but not working yet | 07:36 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: in fact it's working but very hard to configure | 07:37 |
| JRe | jeroenvrp: I am working on beeing able to present that to users | 07:37 |
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| jpatrick | JRe: "Gaylord" un nom est-il en franais ? | 07:42 |
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| Riddell | jpatrick: I think it's Jewish, remembering back to the film Meet the Parents | 07:44 |
| jpatrick | oh yeah | 07:44 |
| Riddell | poor guy, must get slagged off all the time :) | 07:44 |
| jpatrick | just the guy in #kubuntu said it was his first name | 07:44 |
| Riddell | yeah, I saw | 07:45 |
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| jjesse | running dapper w/ latest updates in a virtual machine and i can longer access the network | 08:09 |
| jjesse | anyone else having any problems like this? | 08:09 |
| toma | Riddell: pingg | 08:10 |
| sebas | jjesse: Strange names in ifconfig -a ? | 08:10 |
| Riddell | toma: yo | 08:10 |
| sebas | I had that today, reloading the driver module (8139too) a couple of times fixed it, not time to look into it. | 08:10 |
| toma | Riddell: hi, i'm releasing rsibreak 0.5 later this week, I think it is good to have that version in dapper (i guess you hear that 10x a day). Is that possible? It is much better than the current 0.4 | 08:11 |
| sebas | toma: Just call it bugfix release, there you go ;-) | 08:12 |
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| toma | sebas: yes, well it is, the timer in 0.4 was not very good, 0.5 actually works ;-) | 08:13 |
| toma | +nicely | 08:13 |
| Riddell | toma: probably but I don't have time to package/test/ask for upstream version freeze | 08:13 |
| Riddell | toma: probably allee will package it | 08:13 |
| toma | Riddell: yes, me and allee will package | 08:13 |
| Riddell | then poke someone else to test/ask for upstream version freeze | 08:13 |
| toma | Riddell: oki | 08:14 |
| jjesse | ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: no such file or directory | 08:14 |
| Riddell | toma: freature freeze on end of wednesday, may be harder to get things uploaded after that | 08:15 |
| toma | Riddell: ok, then I will release / package it tomorrow | 08:15 |
| jjesse | hmm still can't get an ip address | 08:16 |
| Riddell | toma: :) | 08:16 |
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| _Sime | Riddell: Hi, | 08:19 |
| _Sime | Riddell: guidance has been fixed for that Xft DPI stuff. | 08:19 |
| _Sime | Riddell: it was commited on saturday or sunday. | 08:19 |
| _Sime | Riddell: look in displayconfig-restore.py | 08:19 |
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| allee | Riddell: ah feature freeze: There still interest to have wlassistant in dapper? New upstream release seems to be better (now in debian NEW queue, but I can't test because all AP here use WPA currently :() | 08:22 |
| Riddell | _Sime: oh cool, was looking at 40guidance-displayconfig_restore, silly me | 08:22 |
| allee | Riddell: other is codeine: You upload last week AFAIR but not in archive yet | 08:22 |
| _Sime | Riddell: are you planning on using xsettings-kde for the gtk apps? | 08:23 |
| jpatrick | allee: NEW queue is stuck | 08:23 |
| Riddell | allee: I don't think I did upload codeine actully, I can do that now | 08:25 |
| Riddell | _Sime: probably not for dapper | 08:25 |
| allee | jpatrick: Is codeine important enough to kick-for-unstuck in these busy times? | 08:25 |
| _Sime | Riddell: not enough time? | 08:25 |
| Riddell | _Sime: correct | 08:25 |
| jpatrick | allee, Riddell : nothing I've uploaded has showed up | 08:25 |
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| jjesse | anyone else having issues after latest updates and not getting an ip address? | 08:28 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: yeah, NEW is currently going very slowly | 08:29 |
| Riddell | jjesse: flight 4 or after flight 4? | 08:29 |
| jjesse | had flight 3 and then did an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade this morning | 08:29 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: if i try to do a sudo ifup eth0 i receive "ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory | 08:30 |
| Riddell | jjesse: mkdir /var/run/network ? | 08:31 |
| jjesse | that did it | 08:32 |
| jpatrick | touch /var/run/network/ifstate | 08:32 |
| allee | jjesse: did you reboot? /etc/init.d/loop should create this directory | 08:40 |
| jjesse | rebooting right now | 08:41 |
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| allee | jpatrick: Which URL to check what's in ubuntu NEW queue? | 08:42 |
| jpatrick | allee: not that we know of.... | 08:43 |
| allee | ok | 08:43 |
| jpatrick | allee: I asked Riddell that a few days ago... | 08:43 |
| Riddell | _Sime: should it be ok to take make a branch patch to current SVN guidance so I can get the DPI stuff in? | 08:45 |
| _Sime | Riddell: you need to get this in ASAP for the FF? | 08:46 |
| jjesse | allee: after rebooting i don't have the directory | 08:46 |
| allee | Is there anything that has to be fixed/worked on _before_ Wednesday? wlassistant? Other? | 08:46 |
| allee | jjesse: mount | grep /var/run | 08:47 |
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| allee | jjesse: grep /var/run/network /etc/init.d/* # should match loop script | 08:47 |
| jjesse | hold on | 08:48 |
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| _Sime | Riddell: I just put a 0.6.1 version of guidance up on the site. | 08:54 |
| _Sime | Riddel: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ | 08:55 |
| _Sime | Riddell: packing-wise it should be a drop in replacement. | 08:55 |
| _Sime | Riddell: except that one of the patches in the .deb is now not necessary. | 08:56 |
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| allee | FWIW: No NEW/changed entries for Wed 2nd kubuntu meeting yet ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings | 08:58 |
| Riddell | _Sime: excellent :) | 08:59 |
| allee | raphink: Should the old agenda be kept and a new one added at the top? Or ... | 08:59 |
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| raphink | allee: remove the old one | 09:04 |
| raphink | allee: just keep the points we didn't talk about last time maybe | 09:04 |
| jjesse | allee: grep /var/run/network /etc/init.d/* /etc/init.d/loopback.dpkg-new: [-d /var/run/network ] || mkdir /var/run/network | 09:11 |
| allee | jjesse: you had local change in the loopback script? | 09:14 |
| allee | jjesse: check: diff -u /etc/init.d/loopback /etc/init.d/loopback.dpkg-new | 09:14 |
| allee | jjesse: merge your changes into the new one and: mv /etc/init.d/loopback.dpkg-new /etc/init.d/loopback | 09:15 |
| allee | After next reboot this should be back to normal | 09:16 |
| allee | raphink: | 09:16 |
| allee | + ok | 09:16 |
| raphink | k | 09:16 |
| jjesse | did osmething go wrong w/ my update? | 09:16 |
| allee | jjesse: during update, should (should have) been told that /etc/init.d/loopback has been changed (default keep current version) | 09:18 |
| allee | jjesse: either you accepted the default of answered no | 09:18 |
| jjesse | hmm ok, don't remember being prompted | 09:18 |
| allee | jjesse: no the loopback script was not installed | 09:18 |
| allee | s/no the/so the new/ | 09:18 |
| jjesse | upon rebooting still have the same problem :( | 09:19 |
| Riddell | allee: codeine_1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes is NEW | 09:19 |
| allee | Riddell: thanks | 09:20 |
| allee | jjesse: did not work, when /etc/init.d/loopback has: [-d /var/run/network ] || mkdir /var/run/network ? | 09:21 |
| jjesse | correct | 09:21 |
| allee | jjesse: ls -l /etc/rc*.d/*loopback ? | 09:21 |
| jjesse | no such file | 09:22 |
| allee | jjesse: here: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2006-01-25 11:25 /etc/rcS.d/S08loopback -> ../init.d/loopback | 09:23 |
| allee | really looks like something went wrong. Have you more files matching : ls -l /etc/init.d/*dpkg* | 09:23 |
| jjesse | allee yeah i have m ore alas-utils console-screen.sh mdadm and two others | 09:24 |
| jjesse | good thing its a virtual machine and i can blow it away | 09:24 |
| allee | jjesse: nothing here. Looks like I accepted them all, and you did not :) | 09:25 |
| jjesse | don't worry too much, its just a virtual machine and i probally screewed it up | 09:25 |
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| jpatrick | how do I get knemo out of kicker? | 09:30 |
| Tm_T | yh | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_116.png | 09:32 |
| jpatrick | Tm_T: what? | 09:41 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: just look | 09:45 |
| jpatrick | I did | 09:45 |
| Tm_T | I removed "kde" from my KDE desktop | 09:46 |
| jpatrick | ah okay | 09:48 |
| Tm_T | feel strange, no blue ;( | 09:49 |
| Tm_T | also, new placement of kicker needs some time to get used to it | 09:50 |
| Tm_T | have to say, who says "I can't get KDE to look good" doesn't try | 09:54 |
| allee | jpatrick: RMB menu -> configure knemo, delete the interface in left page | 09:54 |
| allee | jpatrick: or if you want to disable it complete goto KDE services and disable it there to not run all all | 09:55 |
| jpatrick | allee: already removed it from there, but it's still in the system tray | 09:55 |
| allee | jpatrick: I tried: removed eth0 and 'ok' and the icons is gone | 09:56 |
| allee | jpatrick: so works here | 09:57 |
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| kmon | Hi. guidance "discs & filesystem" is not working in dapper, is this a known bug? | 10:41 |
| _Sime|sport | kmon: please explain? | 10:45 |
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| _Sime | kmon: what happens when you run "mountconfig" from the shell? | 10:46 |
| kmon | javier@a1691:~$ mountconfig | 10:46 |
| kmon | Traceback (most recent call last): | 10:46 |
| kmon | File "/usr/bin/mountconfig", line 33, in ? | 10:46 |
| kmon | from fuser import * | 10:46 |
| kmon | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/fuser.py", line 27, in ? | 10:46 |
| kmon | import kdedesigner | 10:46 |
| kmon | ImportError: No module named kdedesigner | 10:46 |
| kmon | javier@a1691:~$ | 10:46 |
| sebas | Install pykdeextensions | 10:46 |
| _Sime | kmon: go to adept and install... | 10:46 |
| _Sime | dammit that's my line! sebas | 10:47 |
| _Sime | :-) | 10:47 |
| _Sime | sebas: I push a quick guidance release just before badminton. :) | 10:47 |
| sebas | Riddell: Could you add pykdeextensions to guidance's runtime deps? :-) | 10:47 |
| _Sime | psued | 10:47 |
| sebas | (There's another one of your lines, _Sime :>) | 10:47 |
| _Sime | true | 10:47 |
| sebas | _Sime: I'm overoverloaded, schedulewise for the next two weeks, so don't expect too much from me. | 10:48 |
| kmon | this is the bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/31781 | 10:48 |
| _Sime | sebas: I thought as much. | 10:48 |
| sebas | Ok :) | 10:48 |
| kmon | Is there a guidance roadmap? I would like to know what system tools are planned for future versions of kubuntu :) | 10:49 |
| _Sime | me too | 10:49 |
| _Sime | seriously, I haven't thought too much beyond displayconfig. | 10:50 |
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| _Sime | kmon: what do you feel is most needed? | 10:50 |
| sebas | We need more developers. | 10:50 |
| kmon | well, I think a tool for dealing with grub would be a nice addition | 10:51 |
| kmon | just like gnome has | 10:51 |
| _Sime | FOSDEM will be a good chance to discuss this issue. | 10:51 |
| sebas | I'll be working on the existing parts, usability fixes, and some time in the far future will do KDE4 porting and hope to get some modules into KDE4 official. | 10:51 |
| _Sime | yeah | 10:51 |
| _Sime | I think that grub support is a bit techy and that there is probably other basic functionality that is missing in system settings. | 10:52 |
| _Sime | sound(?) | 10:52 |
| _Sime | I would still like a good cd/dvd based backup program. | 10:52 |
| kmon | isn't that a bit out of scope for guidance? | 10:53 |
| sebas | We should delay sound to later on, when phonon is a fact. | 10:53 |
| kmon | I thought guidance was a set of tools for dealing with sys config | 10:53 |
| _Sime | sebas: true | 10:53 |
| _Sime | kmon: and true, but if the system settings is complete already, then we can do something else. | 10:54 |
| _Sime | I'm thinking more "Linux desktop" than just config. | 10:54 |
| kmon | yeah, sure | 10:54 |
| kmon | but grub is something that many people have to deal with, like adding a splash image or support for dual booting. Any way, my 2? | 10:55 |
| _Sime | I'm hoping that the kubuntu installer sets up dual boot. | 10:55 |
| _Sime | doesn't it? | 10:55 |
| kmon | yes | 10:55 |
| kmon | sure | 10:56 |
| jeroenvrp | archive.ubuntu.com is unreachable for me | 10:56 |
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| sebas | http://keytouch.sourceforge.net | 10:57 |
| _Sime | (good) keyboard configuration is also a problem. | 10:57 |
| sebas | A frontend for keytouch would be kewl in guidance. | 10:57 |
| sebas | Ha! | 10:58 |
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| _Sime | :) | 10:59 |
| _Sime | "mulitmedia" key don't work so well right now. (not that I have tried, mmmawww) | 11:00 |
| Riddell | sebas: why does it now need pykdeextensions? | 11:02 |
| sebas | Riddell: guidance now reads the .ui stuff runtime. | 11:03 |
| _Sime | Riddell: because fuser.py now uses the load-ui-file-on-the-fly feature of pykdeextensions. | 11:03 |
| sebas | We don't fit into the same room, tonight, _Sime :> | 11:03 |
| sebas | In fact, we're redundant. | 11:03 |
| Riddell | clever it :) | 11:03 |
| Riddell | this is in 0.6.1? | 11:04 |
| _Sime | sebas: what have you got going on in Brussels on wednesday/thursday? | 11:04 |
| _Sime | Riddell: might have been 0.6.0 too. | 11:04 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: thanks for the amarok .po fix | 11:05 |
| jeroenvrp | unfortunaly I cannot test it, because I allready installed 1.4 beta1 - and these version has the Dutch language file | 11:06 |
| sebas | _Sime: KDE/quality stuff, a European project, top secret atm ;-) | 11:08 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: I ment for pitti to test it with his scripts | 11:08 |
| sebas | I'll tell you at FOSDEM, though. | 11:08 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: ah ok :-)_ | 11:09 |
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| kmon | Could someone please remove the dependecy of xmms on superkaramba package? I don't understand why it's needed at all. | 11:19 |
| Riddell | umm, _Sime, sebas, userconfig seems to take lots of screenshots or something | 11:30 |
| Riddell | kmon: because superkaramba has an xmms plugin | 11:30 |
| _Sime | Riddell: huh? | 11:31 |
| sebas | userconfig takes screenshots? | 11:31 |
| Riddell | _Sime: when i run userconfig the mouse cursor turns into a crosshairs and when I click it beeps like a screenshot program | 11:31 |
| sebas | Hm, console output? | 11:32 |
| sebas | That sounds utterly strange to me though. | 11:32 |
| _Sime | _that_ is wierd. | 11:33 |
| Riddell | >userconfig | 11:33 |
| Riddell | from: can't read /var/mail/qt | 11:33 |
| Riddell | from: can't read /var/mail/kdeui | 11:33 |
| Riddell | from: can't read /var/mail/kdecore | 11:33 |
| Riddell | from: can't read /var/mail/kfile | 11:33 |
| Riddell | runs normally thought systemsettings | 11:33 |
| sebas | Hm, I'm getting the same here. | 11:33 |
| Riddell | screen capture thing? | 11:34 |
| sebas | There is no such code in there. | 11:35 |
| sebas | It runs fine if I start it with python userconfig.py | 11:35 |
| Riddell | I can't think why there would be | 11:35 |
| sebas | I've got it. | 11:37 |
| sebas | There's a trailing ' ' before the pybang in line one of /usr/share/apps/guidance/userconfig.py | 11:37 |
| sebas | Removing it solves it, but the effect is more than strange. | 11:37 |
| sebas | Time for 0.6.2 I guess :> | 11:38 |
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| Riddell | ah, so it's running the executable "from" | 11:38 |
| sebas | Fix is in svn | 11:38 |
| Riddell | then import | 11:39 |
| Riddell | hah, that's a sneeky one :) | 11:39 |
| sebas | Kewl :> | 11:39 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 11:39 |
| sebas | Moin Hobbsee | 11:39 |
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| Hobbsee | especially if it involves wireless cards and wpa! | 11:41 |
| kmon | c-ya | 11:45 |
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| infinitezeros | this room is quiet | 11:56 |
| allee | JRe: ping | 12:00 |
| infinitezeros | ping-back | 12:01 |
| allee | infinitezeros: are you JRe's secretary? :) | 12:03 |
| infinitezeros | no his clone allee | 12:04 |
| _Sime | sebas: that is truely bizzare. | 12:05 |
| allee | Hobbsee: curious: what do you use to manage wpa? wpasupplicant + ?? | 12:06 |
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