[12:00] <kerneld> use cupsys-bsd if you need lpr interface
[12:00] <[blah] > how do I update my locate db?
[12:00] <jjjjjjj> can i get the firefox wiki again?
[12:00] <kerneld> blah: Tak a look at the cron.daily
[12:00] <_jason> [blah] : sudo updatedb
[12:00] <jjjjjjj> going to get thunderbird upgraded
[12:01] <Nogimics> Anyone know how with wget I can point it to a web directory and it will grab everything within it?
[12:01] <Esben> How do i get http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=English+US&prodkey=AAR-2400A to work in ubuntu? The card works fine in knoppix, but breezy badger gives a kernel panic.
[12:01] <[blah] > thanks _jason
[12:01] <Skaag> Can I take the dapper ISO and somehow put it on an external USB drive for booting?
[12:01] <rchaffer> the rights are all -rw-r--r--
[12:01] <taylor_> if i wanted to compress a ".map" file that is about 55MB what would be best to compress it to?
[12:01] <_jason> rchaffer: who's the owner
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> Skaag,  eww. :P not heard of that trick being done
[12:01] <kerneld> Nog: -r option.
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> brb
[12:02] <Skaag> Dr_Willis: I could create a partition on it, question is what type, and if just copying the files there will work
[12:02] <taylor_> its a halo 2 file from ym xbox
[12:02] <mqueiros> Nogimics: wget -m http://ftp.blablabla.com/pub/whatever/
[12:02] <taylor_> *my
[12:02] <rchaffer> ah they're all root. d'oh
[12:02] <Nogimics> -m or -r lol?
[12:02] <taylor_> nvm ill just try them all
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> Skaag,  you are in 'no mans' land there. Lol.
[12:02] <Skaag> hehe
[12:02] <mqueiros> -m as in Mirror
[12:02] <odat> !tell vivaldini -?about mp3
[12:03] <rchaffer> thanks
[12:03] <Nogimics> thanks
[12:03] <soundray> Esben, which kernel are you trying this with?
[12:03] <Esben> 2.6.12
[12:03] <setuid> soundray: I've run Debian for 8+ years, Slackware, Ygdrassil, RH years before that. Trust me, I know what it takes to make things work. I'm also an upstream developer, and more than half the time when users report bugs in my software in distros, its because of braindead packager breakage. The solution is *ALWAYS* to use the unpatched, pristine source, which fixes all of the issues (in my case, which is the whole usb subsystem, udev, hotplug, etc
[12:03] <setuid> .)
[12:03] <[blah] > _jason, do you know anything about apache2?
[12:03] <Esben> 2.6.12-10
[12:03] <setuid> So I'm not exactly your typical "newb"
[12:03] <vivaldini> odat.....i-m not understand
[12:04] <_jason> [blah] : just ask
[12:04] <odat> !tell <vivaldini> -?about <mp3>
[12:04] <odat> sorry trying something
[12:04] <[blah] > I want to setup a virtualhost in apache2 on port 8080 but can't find how
[12:04] <bimberi> odat: #debian-bots
[12:04] <soundray> setuid, fine. In that case, I suspect you just want to sound off. There are other channels for that.
[12:05] <Ubeyguy> Hello
[12:06] <odat> vivaldini, open up synaptic and install gstreamer plugins
[12:06] <setuid> No, I don't need to sound off. I have other venues for that which are much more productive than here. Freenode has consistently gone rapidly downhill in terms of quality of support in project-dedicated channels. I've seen this as it went from the Linpeople -> OPN -> Freenode transition, losing quality and talent through each one.
[12:06] <BakaNiko> Bonsoir
[12:06] <Ubeyguy> Hello
[12:06] <Ubeyguy> Is this a good distro to run asterisk on?
[12:06] <setuid> I find problems, problems which a simple package removal/configure or install do not fix, and I address/report them. The first place I go, is the userbase, to see if others experienced it (and google, thus proving several hundred users with the same exact problem as mine)
[12:07] <adriyel> Ubeyguy, *shrugs* it works
[12:07] <adriyel> good is relative
[12:07] <setuid> Hence, this is not unique to me, my hardware, or my configuration.
[12:07] <adriyel> use a distro you like/enjoy and are comfortable with
[12:07] <adriyel> setuid, do you have a point?
[12:07] <Ubeyguy> adriyel: its been a while since i have use 'linux
[12:07] <adriyel> Ubeyguy, I recommend Ubuntu then, it's relatively easy
[12:07] <setuid> adriyel: Is English not your first language? Or should I rephrase my statements in a simpler way for you to understand?
[12:07] <soundray> setuid, meet me in #ubuntu-offtopic for that discussion.
[12:08] <Kronarq> I am trying to track down an issue... On an ubuntu machine with a fresh install when I have dhcp enabled everything works fine but when I switch to manual I can only access the internal network. I have tried pinging google 64.233.187.99 and that didnt work so it isn't just a dns issue. Any suggestions?
[12:08] <adriyel> Ubeyguy, although I am an intermediate user of Linux, I use it because it saves me hassle time
[12:08] <Dark_Oppressor> ive got a fresh install of ubuntu with an ati radeon x800 pro, and ive fully updated everything.  now my problem is that i havent got any 3d acceleration, any ideas of what i should do?
[12:08] <bimberi> !ato
[12:08] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bimberi
[12:08] <Seveas> Kronarq, did you set dns servers?
[12:08] <bimberi> !ati
[12:08] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:08] <adriyel> setuid, is English not your first language? I can interpret great works like Milton's "Paradise Lost", and correct an English Professors grammar
[12:08] <Ubeyguy> great
[12:08] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to uninstall amercias army?
[12:08] <adriyel> which I have done on occaision
[12:08] <Ubeyguy> hope you guys will be here to support me
[12:08] <Esben> soundray, any suggestions?
[12:08] <Kronarq> Seveas: yes
[12:09] <Ubeyguy> I am installing on my 2nd box as we speek
[12:09] <setuid> Its "Professor's" ;)
[12:09] <Ubeyguy> speak*
[12:09] <adriyel> setuid, so don't touch my linguistic abilities. Let's not forget English isn't the only language I am familiar with...baka.
[12:09] <farous> !tell Dark_Oppressor about ati
[12:09] <odat> phiber_optic, google it
[12:09] <adriyel> I know, the possessive apostrophe in the noun, I saw the error just as I was hitting the enter key
[12:09] <Dark_Oppressor> gracias
[12:09] <Kronarq> Any other ideas?
[12:09] <adriyel> Chat is a rapid interactive form of communication, you can get white-paper level of stringency in grammar/spelling some other time
[12:10] <frodrigu> Is it impossible to play .m4a files with amarok?
[12:10] <BakaNiko> I'm searching a french speaking ubuntu so, i make a mistake. Good Bye
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic, I believe you installed that from source, so you're best option there is probably make uninstall or an option of checkinstall, whichever you used in the first place.  If those aren't available, you might have to just delete directories, but that's never as clean.
[12:10] <adriyel> setuid, elsewise, if you are going to choose not to respond to my inquest, you can stop speaking to me and thereby not be wasting mine or yours time, thank you
[12:10] <bimberi> !fr
[12:10] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:10] <Seveas> !tell setuid about conduct
[12:10] <BakaNiko> Merci
[12:10] <frodrigu> When I try it tells me "some media could not be loaded" in amarok...is this impossible to fix?
[12:10] <odat> frodrigu, you'll prolly get a better answer in kubuntu
[12:11] <setuid> Seveas: Now now, you should know I know the ROC already. I'm not a troll. ;)
[12:11] <_6ix_> Social Commentary:  Milton's "Paradise Lost" a "great" work?  Teehee.
[12:11] <setuid> er, functionality
[12:11] <frodrigu> odat, how do i join kubuntu?
[12:11] <soundray> Esben, not really. You are using the most recent breezy kernel... Are you getting any further information with that crash?
[12:11] <phiber_optic> tonyyarusso, I used its own installation program
[12:11] <farous> frodrigu: /j #kubuntu
[12:11] <odat> frodrigu, type   /join #kubuntu
[12:11] <Verwilst> hellow!
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic, Oh.  But it doesn't come with an uninstall one too then?
[12:12] <Esben> some interupt addresses and stuff. Trying to install the 686 kernel to see if it makes a difference
[12:12] <Verwilst> i seem to be having a prob with dapper
[12:12] <Verwilst> when i try to login, i see nothing
[12:12] <Verwilst> except my wallpaper
[12:12] <phiber_optic> I dont know Ijust download a armyops250.run
[12:12] <_6ix_> Is there a list of terminal commands?
[12:12] <soundray> Esben, any chance to get your hands on a Dapper live CD?
[12:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell _6ix_ about cli
[12:12] <_6ix_> Thank you
[12:12] <Verwilst> well first i get the login splash
[12:12] <odat> phiber_optic, i'm pretty sure you can find the info on google
[12:13] <soundray> Esben, that would tell you whether there's hope in waiting for dapper, or installing it pre-release.
[12:13] <Verwilst> when it's at nautilus, it show a message box saying "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit."
[12:13] <Nogimics> hmmm im trying to copy 1 dir using "wget -m http://www.url.com/images/"
[12:14] <Nogimics> but ti keeps copying the whole site
[12:14] <Nogimics> can anyone help pls?
[12:14] <Cullen> Test
[12:14] <snoozix> Cullen: works.
[12:14] <_jason> Cullen: failed
[12:14] <soundray> Nogimics, use -l 1
[12:14] <Verwilst> Nogimics, --no-parent
[12:14] <Verwilst> or that
[12:15] <Nogimics> So use wget -m --no-parent
[12:15] <soundray> Cullen, osterone
[12:16] <Esben> soundray, Can i opgrade to dapper via apt?
[12:16] <theD3viL> Esben: yes
[12:16] <theD3viL> Esben: !dapper
[12:16] <theD3viL> !dapper
[12:16] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[12:16] <dabaR> Esben: on 20th of april
[12:16] <theD3viL> eh .. change sources list
[12:16] <theD3viL> yes, thats better
[12:17] <soundray> Esben, you can, but expect a rough ride.
[12:17] <Esben> How rough?
[12:17] <dabaR> Esben: You never know...
[12:17] <tatters> how do I set a folder so it can be shared by anyone on my network  say for example /media/usbdisk/my music?
[12:17] <wastrel> i'm making broccoli
[12:17] <dabaR> sweet
[12:17] <Cullen> Installing Ubuntu, okay till just after keyboard question, then hangs while "Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives" at 83 percent while "Loading module 'ide-disk' for 'Linux ATA Disk' .  Any ideas?
[12:17] <tatters> sudo chown?
[12:17] <dabaR> tatters: who is on your network?
[12:17] <tatters> family only
[12:18] <soundray> Esben, the main problem with upgrading is that there's no way back, unless you have a full backup (ideally partition images)
[12:18] <dabaR> Your family members have NIC cards installed?
[12:18] <dabaR> Into their bodies? or do you call your computers family?
[12:18] <Esben> soundray, that is not an issue. Just installed today
[12:18] <_6ix_> Hypothetically, if you have a .tar file with XMMS in it on your desktop, what command might you use to install it?
[12:18] <tatters> it local network so just want a public folder
[12:18] <dabaR> tatters: on the same computer?
[12:18] <_6ix_> sudo dpkg -i xmmsetcetc.tar?
[12:18] <tatters> no one wireless network
[12:19] <tatters> on wireless network^
[12:19] <dabaR> tatters: what conmputers, tatters ?
[12:19] <dabaR> windows? linux macs?
[12:19] <soundray> Esben, if starting over is not a big loss, I wouldn't hesitate too much.
[12:19] <tatters> xp and linux
[12:19] <dabaR> !samba
[12:19] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:19] <dabaR> read that.
[12:19] <N6pfk> Is this the right place to ask about ati drivers and 3d?
[12:19] <dabaR> !ati
[12:19] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:20] <tatters> no i want to own the folder as adsmin to start how do I do that?
[12:20] <N6pfk> Thanks
[12:20] <dabaR> as admsin?
[12:20] <Verwilst> little question
[12:20] <tatters> I have a usb disk I just reinstalled and the folder I created previously is owned by my old account
[12:20] <dabaR> adsmin?
[12:20] <Verwilst> oh
[12:20] <Verwilst> wait
[12:20] <Madpilot> tatters: with "chown" - look up "man chown" in a terminal
[12:21] <Esben> soundray, Whats the procedure? replacing breezy with dapper ?
[12:21] <frodrigu> does anyone know if it is impossible to play .m4a files in amarok (or any other player, for that matter)?
[12:21] <Esben> in sources.list
[12:22] <iceman> whats the file brouser for ubuntu .. nautlis  ?
[12:22] <Seveas> iceman, yes
[12:22] <soundray> Esben, it's similar to going from hoary to breezy, except that you substitute "dapper" in /etc/sources.list
[12:22] <soundray> !breezy
[12:22] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:22] <iceman> Seveas proper spelling ?
[12:22] <dabaR> nautilus
[12:22] <Madpilot> iceman: Nautilus
[12:22] <iceman> ty
[12:22] <dabaR> $20
[12:22] <snoozix> damn, i only get 128kbyte/sec with filling my mp3 player, why that?
[12:23] <soundray> Esben, that should read /etc/apt/sources.list (sry)
[12:23] <kbrosnan> ZephyrXero, Ubuntu/Debian make several changes to the browser that are not compatable with the Mozilla update system.
[12:23] <tatters> k thnx so chown 777 /media/usbdisk/albums should work?
[12:23] <soundray> snoozix, USB 1.1 mode?
[12:23] <dabaR> tatters: no, it should not.
[12:23] <tatters> oh
[12:23] <snoozix> soundray: should be even faster than 128kbyte/sec, right?
[12:23] <hanasaki> how do i mount a drive in an external enclosure that takes an ide drive and has a USB port to the computer?  special software?  does it show up just like a usb flash drive?
[12:24] <ramvi> Heya! =) Could someone please point me in the direction of how to set up keyboard shortcuts? I've installed launch box and want to assign a shortcut to it...
[12:24] <thomas__> Hey
[12:24] <dabaR> tatters: unless you want 777 to own it.
[12:24] <tatters> I just wanna get the padlock off the folder
[12:24] <snoozix> hanasaki: it should.
[12:24] <hanasaki> 777 chmod? thats not very secure
[12:24] <thomas__> Im installing Quake 4 demo What do i do if it says no write permission to /usr/local/games
[12:24] <colm> ramvi, system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[12:24] <odat> frodrigu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=3900632
[12:24] <ablomen> thomas__: install it as root
[12:24] <tatters> I have a usb disk I just reinstalled and the folder I created previously is owned by my old account
[12:24] <soundray> snoozix, maybe the flash memory in your player is slow.
[12:24] <hanasaki> snoozix found a reference that said someone needed a driver disk that came with it .. for windows.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817146057
[12:25] <tatters> so I just wanna get the padlock off the folder
[12:25] <thomas__> Roger that
[12:25] <Madpilot> thomas__: use "sudo" in front of whatever command you're installing it with
[12:25] <snoozix> soundray: it is not.
[12:25] <[blah] > how do I change my ip?
[12:25] <thomas__> no
[12:25] <thomas__> Madpilot
[12:25] <thomas__> It has an instlal menu
[12:25] <thomas__> install
[12:25] <thomas__> :\
[12:25] <thomas__> It says no access to root
[12:25] <farous> anyone have prblems with lyx here. and how can i know who is the maintainer of any package so i can contact him directly
[12:26] <Madpilot> !enter
[12:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:26] <Madpilot> thomas__: check on ubuntuforums.org, there are active gaming forums there
[12:26] <Ubeyguy> what is the default ubuntu root password?
[12:26] <ablomen> thomas__: try "sudo chmod 777 /usr/local/games"
[12:26] <Seveas> !root
[12:26] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:26] <soundray> snoozix, are you plugging into a hub?
[12:26] <Madpilot> Ubeyguy: there isn't one. Use sudo and your own user pw
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> farous, apt-cache show lyx.  Gives a listserv instead of a personal address.
[12:26] <gunslinger> hihi
[12:26] <Ubeyguy> thank you
[12:26] <tatters> ok for example I want to create a folder on my usb that I can access on any account on any machine I plug it in to how do I create this folder?
[12:26] <farous> ok thanx tonyyarusso
[12:27] <colm> ramvi, just re-read your question...   try this instead.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[12:27] <ramvi> colm, thanks
[12:27] <ablomen> thomas__: or whatever the dir was it didnt hade permisions for
[12:28] <soundray> !forums 79560
[12:28] <Esben> Its funny cos its true
[12:28] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 79560 is: General - HOWTO : Create a custom keyboard shortcut - Ubuntu Forums
[12:28] <jroes> hmm, anyone know where I can find lex and yacc?  are they in one of the make packages?
[12:29] <tatters> for example I want to create a folder on my usb drive that I can access using any account on any machine I plug it in,,,, to how do I create this folder?
[12:29] <Seveas> jroes, packages flex and bison
[12:29] <zebraFusion> what do I install to play avis
[12:29] <zebraFusion> ?
[12:29] <Madpilot> !tell zebraFusion about codecs
[12:29] <trustnon> tatters, try a stickie maybe
[12:29] <Madpilot> !tell zebraFusion about avi
[12:29] <moonunit> to anyone who wants to help, ive got a sound problem with games, the two ive tried are abuse, and ACM
[12:30] <jroes> thanks again Seveas
[12:30] <OmegaAlpha> what exactly does the command 'depmod' do? i had to enter it to finalize my driver setup with ndiswrapper
[12:30] <tatters> stickies dont answer back :P
[12:30] <[blah] > how do I restart my network interface?
[12:31] <tatters> mines wireless NIC I use ifconfig ra0 up
[12:31] <thomas__> Thanks
[12:31] <thomas__> it
[12:31] <thomas__> it's not installing, Hope it works
[12:31] <oga> I have got a USB laser printer and i dont' know how to detect it / enable it
[12:31] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, it sorts out dependencies between modules.
[12:31] <thomas__> woo hoo
[12:31] <thomas__> im starting
[12:31] <thomas__> Thanks everyone who helped
[12:31] <thomas__> :)
[12:31] <forumgdh> brasil alguem/
[12:32] <soundray> !br
[12:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:32] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, oh so the dep part is short for dependency
[12:32] <moonunit> _jason, got a bit?
[12:32] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, yes. Look at lsmod output: the "Used by" column indicates reverse dependencies for each module listed.
[12:34] <zebraFusion> !easysource
[12:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:34] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, i issued that command for ndiswrapper.. to setup my wifi card. in lsmod it shows a usbcore being used by ndiswrapper
[12:35] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, so what is the usbcore module?
[12:35] <RockyBurt> hm, does anyone know if its possible to subscribe to a remote (online) icalendar source that uses authentication ?
[12:35] <RockyBurt> using gnome evolution
[12:35] <tatters> ok so I sudo chmod 777 /media/usbdisk/global/artist\ a-z/  and the padlock dissapered
[12:35] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, it's the common core code dealing with everything to do with the Universal Serial Bus.
[12:36] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, ahh makes sense since the wifi adaptar is considered a usb
[12:36] <phiber_optic> I found a uninstall file how do I run it?
[12:36] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, thanks for the knowledge gain ;)
[12:37] <Madpilot> phiber_optic: uninstall for what?
[12:37] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, it's connected to USB (not considered as...)
[12:37] <tatters> what I dont understand is Y my wifi nic is ra0 insteasd of wlan
[12:37] <phiber_optic> for americas army
[12:37] <riddlebox> what is the frontend for samba mounts for kde?
[12:37] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, double clicking it doesnt work?
[12:37] <phiber_optic> nop
[12:38] <soundray> tatters, the name is determined by the driver fairly arbitrarily.
[12:38] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, is it an executable file?
[12:38] <moonunit> i have a sound problem with games, anyone?
[12:38] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, how do I check if it is executable?
[12:38] <zebraFusion> how can I install an avi decoder in dapper?
[12:38] <MrRio> moonunit: which game, and whats the problem?
[12:38] <tatters> oh u see all i had to was add my wpa setting to the network/interface file and my wireless was all up nu running
[12:38] <phiber_optic> when I double click it tells me it is a excecutable text file
[12:39] <Madpilot> zebraFusion: the same way you'd install it in Breezy?
[12:39] <ablomen> phiber_optic: check if the permissions are right (right click on the file, third tav)
[12:39] <ablomen> *tab
[12:39] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, look at the file itself.. does it have the .exe extension.. or check in properties to see what kind of file
[12:39] <roostishaw> can someone help me to get Candy Bar to work?
[12:39] <soundray> zebraFusion, AVI is just a container format. You need a codec that matches the content.
[12:39] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: .exe is windows ;)
[12:39] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, you said this was the uninstall file for a game
[12:39] <moonunit> MrRio, abuse and acm, i cant get sound.
[12:39] <phiber_optic> yess
[12:39] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, i know.. i was just checking to see if he was using a windows file.
[12:40] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, yes
[12:40] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: lol ok
[12:40] <Madpilot> phiber_optic: is it a .run file?
[12:40] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, i use wine to deal with any windows formats
[12:40] <MrRio> phiber_optic: right-click, properties, permissions, execute
[12:40] <ablomen> phiber_optic: did you check the permissions?
[12:40] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, its the windows version :)
[12:40] <roostishaw> how do i gte candybar to work? it says: "A sensor could not be found. This usually means that it has not been installed."
[12:40] <phiber_optic> OmegaAlpha, i mean its the linux version
[12:41] <MrRio> phiber_optic, lol, good typo
[12:41] <phiber_optic> ablomen, permission is 755
[12:41] <ablomen> phiber_optic: ow damn, you have to run it as root
[12:41] <phiber_optic> so how do I run it as root?
[12:41] <eobanb> sudo.
[12:42] <eobanb> !sudo
[12:42] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:42] <ablomen> phiber_optic: do "sudo /usr/games/dirofgame/uninstallapp"
[12:42] <phiber_optic> sudo uninstall?
[12:42] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, oh then you better talk to ablomen he probably knows more than i
[12:42] <Madpilot> phiber_optic: try "sudo <name of uninstall script>"
[12:42] <Tedd> Hey.
[12:42] <OmegaAlpha> phiber_optic, yes what madpilot said
[12:43] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: well its good for my ego but i just know the game :P
[12:43] <Tedd> Can somebody help me make scintilla?
[12:43] <Tedd> It tells me that gtk+-2.0 isn't found
[12:43] <Hoxzer> can I somehow set timer for commands?
[12:43] <zarephath> Hi everyone...is it possible to install minimal and then build packages off of the minimal install?
[12:43] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, haha anytime... what game is it? i need some good games to install..but i have indirect rendering :(
[12:43] <dabaR> Hoxzer: sleep 20; command
[12:43] <ablomen> zarephath: sure
[12:43] <Hoxzer> :)
[12:43] <Hoxzer> cool
[12:44] <zarephath> Hoxzer: Or you could cron whatever depending on your needs
[12:44] <Hoxzer> so 20 is seconds or what?
[12:44] <zarephath> ablomen: Is it an option on install or what?
[12:44] <dabaR> Hoxzer: go see
[12:44] <Tedd> Can someone help me install Scintilla? I try to do the make in the /gtk/ directory, but it tells me gtk+-2.0 was not found and that I should  add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[12:44] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: castle wolfenstein: enemy territory | amerikas army and openttd are worth trying
[12:45] <OmegaAlpha> oh that game is kickass. i had that on windows...
[12:45] <phiber_optic> I get could not find usable file. Aborting :(
[12:45] <ablomen> zarephath: you can use the "server" install when your in the install cds boot menu
[12:45] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: witch one?
[12:45] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, they have it for linux?? cant wait to install that
[12:45] <Tedd> Anybody?
[12:45] <zarephath> ablomen: Ok thanks
[12:45] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: lol wich one do you mean? there where 3 :P
[12:46] <magenie> !help
[12:46] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, i dont remember i just remember it was wolfenstein-enemy territory and you can be germans or the americans i believe
[12:46] <dabaR> Tedd: do you have an error?
[12:46] <Tedd> Yes
[12:46] <dabaR> the one above?
[12:46] <Tedd> Yes sir.
[12:46] <dabaR> !find gtk+
[12:46] <ubotu> libgtk+2.0-directfb-udeb-dev: (Development files for the GDK Backend based on DirectFB), section universe/libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.0.9-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1076 kB, Installed size: 3516 kB
[12:46] <Tedd> If you'd like me to pastebin the whole thing
[12:46] <phiber_optic> Madpilot, it said could not find usable uninstall program. Aborting
[12:46] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: yeah right, that one is realy easy to install too, takes about 3 seconds ;)
[12:46] <Tedd> oh
[12:46] <Tedd> um
[12:46] <Tedd> okay then
[12:46] <Tedd> I should install that?
[12:47] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, whats the best one to install?? im gonna get it now
[12:47] <dabaR> Try
[12:47] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, im wicked with the sniper rifle
[12:47] <magenie> !webcam
[12:47] <ubotu> [webcam]  now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[12:47] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: that one is easy, and openttd (open transport tycoon deluxe) is in a .deb file
[12:48] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, will i be able to google it?
[12:48] <iceman> what is a good dvd player for ubuntu
[12:48] <ablomen> yeah, both of them
[12:48] <finnzi> damn Xgl totally owns ...
[12:48] <MrRio> iceman: totem-xine with libdvdcss
[12:48] <OmegaAlpha> iceman, i just stick with mplayer... but usually when i insert a dvd totem comes up to play it...
[12:48] <phiber_optic> ablomen, it said coudl not find usable uninstall program. Abourting
[12:48] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: but your going to need to make an account for downloading enemy territore, but that isnt too much trouble
[12:49] <RockyBurt> does anyone know if its possible (with gnome evolution on ubuntu) to subscribe to an icalendar calendar on the web that is protected using authentication ?
[12:49] <Tedd> dabaR: Now it just tells me there's a command that doesn't exist.
[12:49] <dabaR> Should I guess the command?
[12:49] <Tedd> Command g++.
[12:49] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, would that be an account for the steam platform?
[12:49] <soundray> OmegaAlpha, System-Preferences-Removable Drives-Multimedia
[12:49] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: thank god no
[12:49] <ablomen> OmegaAlpha: just for the site
[12:50] <dabaR> Tedd: install build-essential
[12:50] <Madpilot> ablomen: you can get ET without signing up for anything
[12:50] <iceman> cant apt-get mplayer ?
[12:50] <Madpilot> ablomen & OmegaAlpha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[12:50] <dyrne> iceman: mplayer-586
[12:50] <MrRio> finnzi: yeah it does *grin*
[12:50] <OmegaAlpha> ablomen, thank god. entering the "key' yikes
[12:50] <ablomen> Madpilot: yeah you can get torrents too but it doesnt mather, and its easy for mods etc ;)
[12:51] <phiber_optic> ablomen any ideas?
[12:51] <iceman> nope mplayer-586 not available
[12:51] <iceman> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:51] <iceman> is only available from another source
[12:51] <iceman> E: Package mplayer-586 has no installation candidate
[12:51] <dyrne> ubotu: tell iceman about sources
[12:51] <ablomen> phiber_optic: sorry wasnt paying to much atention can you repeat your problem?
[12:51] <Madpilot> !info mplayer-586
[12:51] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[12:51] <phiber_optic> ablomen, it said coudl not find usable uninstall program. Abourting
[12:52] <Tedd> dabaR, Thanks. I'm on my way to PHP.
[12:52] <Tedd> You're a lifesaver.
[12:52] <dabaR> Tedd: good luck
[12:52] <ablomen> hmm, i think youv got to check the aa site/faq/forum
[12:52] <Madpilot> ablomen: you play ET?
[12:52] <linuxN00B> anyone know what the steps are for getting amarok and amarok-xine for Breezy badger
[12:52] <primoturbo> Does anyone know the command to remove a program installed by wine?
[12:52] <ablomen> Madpilot: sure its a cool game
[12:52] <primoturbo> is there a uninstall command in wine?
[12:52] <OmegaAlpha> soundray, thanks buddy. now i can switch it to mplayer :)
[12:52] <biovore> linuxN00B: apt-get install amarok
[12:53] <Madpilot> ablomen: I'm ZogZogZog on ET, keep an eye out for me (I suck, except with a sniper rifle...) :P
[12:53] <dyrne> primoturbo: look under /home/usr/.wine/c_drive/Program Files/ for the uninstall.exe
[12:53] <biovore> linuxN00B: apt-get install libxine1c2
[12:53] <dabaR> Madpilot: is that ET any good?
[12:53] <magenie> is there any way to watch dvds no matter the region or encryion, on the fly, withou the need to rip the dvd ?
[12:53] <dabaR> Like in single user mode?
[12:53] <primoturbo> yeah I checked one doesn't exist
[12:53] <phiber_optic> ablomen that happened when I tried to run the file uninstall file
[12:53] <Madpilot> dabaR: there is no single-user, it's all online multi
[12:53] <ablomen> Madpilot: lol i will ;) im ablomen (how surprising :P)
[12:53] <OmegaAlpha> Madpilot, is that the latest wolfenstein in that link.. or is that the first one?
[12:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm.
[12:53] <dabaR> Madpilot: :(
[12:53] <primoturbo> is there a command to remove a program in this case starcraft
[12:53] <dyrne> ubotu: tell magenie about restricted
[12:53] <MrRio> magenie: yeah, use totem-xine with libdvdcss
[12:53] <linuxN00B> ok I ll try that thanks
[12:54] <primoturbo> or can I just remove the Starcraft directory?
[12:54] <wastrel> is there a program which will play dvd's and supports all the bells & whistles like the menu & stuff?
[12:54] <Madpilot> OmegaAlpha: latest ET, as far as I know
[12:54] <dabaR> I played prboom, but it only has 2 levels.
[12:54] <ablomen> phiber_optic: yeah i guessed that already, but that is a problem with that file
[12:54] <Madpilot> wastrel: Totem does that for most DVDs
[12:54] <MrRio> wastrel: again totem-xine with libdvdcss never fails me
[12:54] <primoturbo> Is there a list of free/Linux native games?
[12:54] <odat> magenie, xine ehhh i like mplayer
[12:54] <phiber_optic> what do you suggest me to do?
[12:54] <primoturbo> or a good site for Linux games?
[12:54] <ablomen> phiber_optic: and im not a amerikans army developer ;)
[12:54] <MrRio> or mplayer, its all down to personal choice
[12:55] <odat> phiber_optic, what style of games?
[12:55] <Madpilot> primoturbo: www.happypenguin.org/ or www.linuxgames.com/ are two
[12:55] <primoturbo> thanks
[12:55] <phiber_optic> odat im trying to uninstall americas army
[12:55] <magenie> thx
[12:55] <ablomen> phiber_optic: like i said, try there site
[12:55] <xiaowei> hello
[12:55] <phiber_optic> try there site?
[12:55] <xiaowei> Good morning
[12:56] <ablomen> phiber_optic: if they got an answer there
[12:57] <MrRio> lol
[12:57] <wastrel> kk
[12:57] <wang> so i just installed linux last night, and need some help getting started with it, installing drivers and stuff
[12:57] <magenie> what about genius webcams ? i installed easycam but it didn't work with my genius webcam..
[12:58] <wang> where'd be some good places to start reading up?
[12:58] <dyrne> wang: most stuff can be found be searching wiki.ubuntu.com but whats your questiion
[12:58] <_jason> wang: help.ubuntu.com for the starter guide wiki.ubuntu.com is good too
[12:58] <MrRio> wang: usually,. if your hardware is supported, its already working
[12:58] <iceman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 shoot thats for drapper .. in need a breezy sources list for mplayer
[12:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell iceman about mplayer
[12:59] <goodtimes> I recently installed ubuntu on my computer and when I rebooted I got a grub error 17, I read that I could fix that by switching off auto detect on my hard drive settings, I put the drive to LBA and then everything booted fine, the problem I have now is that windows doesnt like the setting and crashes all the time, what can I do to fix this?
[12:59] <wang> no, there's only 3 screen resolutions, and the entire right inch or so of the screen has no display
[12:59] <dabaR> !fixres
[12:59] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:59] <ablomen> wang: try using the buttons on your monitor ;)
[12:59] <linuxN00B> biovore: does it matter that I am gnome and not kde
[01:00] <moonunit> so this is rather embarrasing
[01:00] <wang> ablomen: it sucks, i don't think there's any button to stretch it
[01:00] <dabaR> wang: ^
[01:00] <jrr> it would seem that the nvidia-settings package in dapper conflicts with the nvidia-glx one
[01:00] <Madpilot> wang: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <MrRio> moonunit, penis stuck in the cdrom tray?
[01:00] <moonunit> the game blast, sounded fun at the time, but now ive got a bunch of stuff with holes in it, how my i go about fixing this?
[01:00] <dabaR> hahahahaha lol
[01:00] <dabaR> fool
[01:00] <ablomen> wang: ok thats a weird monitor... it should be there
[01:01] <adriyel> dabaR, is moonunit serious?
[01:01] <jimmygoon> My mouse pointer moves VERY slowly in Dapper Drake Flight4 (and yes I tried increasing the accleration in the Preferences) but nothing makes it go faster
[01:01] <jimmygoon> any ideas?
[01:01] <moonunit> dude, im totally serious
[01:01] <kerneld> whats the program to run the autoconfig of X?
[01:01] <dabaR> No idea what he is saying at all
[01:01] <kerneld> just installing the packages?
[01:01] <dabaR> !drxx
[01:01] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dabaR
[01:01] <fenris> hi
[01:01] <visik7> anyone has a nokia dku-5 cable ?
[01:01] <moonunit> im lauging my ass off, but im not kidding, if someone could help.
[01:01] <dabaR> !drxx
[01:02] <goodtimes> I recently installed ubuntu on my computer and when I rebooted I got a grub error 17, I read that I could fix that by switching off auto detect on my hard drive settings, I put the drive to LBA and then everything booted fine, the problem I have now is that windows doesnt like the setting and crashes all the time, what can I do to fix this?
[01:02] <jjjjjjj> hi. is anyone running or tested the nomachine client under ubuntu?
[01:02] <dabaR> ubotu: tell kerneld about drxx
[01:02] <wang> ablomen: yeah, i can change the h-position and v-position, move the whole screen, and i can also more the monitor menu, must be the most worthless option ever...
[01:02] <jimmygoon> My mouse pointer moves VERY slowly in Dapper Drake Flight4 (and yes I tried increasing the accleration in the Preferences) but nothing makes it go faster
 any ideas
[01:02] <jjjjjjj> i was reading up on freenx when i saw the nomachine link
[01:02] <moonunit> MrRio, help?
[01:02] <dabaR> moonunit: what did you do, I am not sure what you are asking.
[01:02] <ablomen> wang: lol :P
[01:03] <moonunit> dabar, sudo apt-get install blast.
[01:03] <wang> ablomen: yeah, it's a nice monitor, but that part sucks
[01:03] <dabaR> moonunit: haha.
[01:03] <fenris> im currently trying to syncronize my laptop with my mobile phone via multisync... i discovered the phone, but when i click "test connection" the phone asks me for a pin... which pin do i have to enter there? and where do i configure it on my notebook?
[01:03] <ablomen> wang: i think throwing it out the window works... i dont have any better idears, maybe someone else can help, sorry
[01:03] <dabaR> well, killall blast
[01:03] <dyrne> moonunit: try killall gnome-panel
[01:03] <MrRio> jjjjjjj: yeh i have, it works well
[01:03] <moonunit> k
[01:03] <dyrne> lol
[01:03] <eduardo> hola nesito ayuda para instalar amsn quien sabe??
[01:03] <dabaR> !es
[01:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:04] <jjjjjjj> thx mrrio
[01:04] <alpha254> muy bien!
[01:04] <mhuynh> hi
[01:04] <wang> ablomen: ah, it's not a big deal...besides, throwing it out the window doesn't do much; one of my friends dropped a monitor off a roof and all it did was crack the case...the tube was still intact
[01:04] <moonunit> nope
[01:04] <jimmygoon> Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:04] <mhuynh> is this the channel to get help for ubuntu install?
[01:04] <MrRio> mhuynh: yup
[01:04] <mhuynh> I don't want to be rude
[01:04] <alpha254> ask
[01:05] <moonunit> dyrne, nothing,
[01:05] <ablomen> wang: well atleast it was a durable...
[01:05] <xapaho> hi folks
[01:05] <moonunit> this sucks
[01:05] <MrRio> moonunit: a game called blast?
[01:05] <dabaR> moonunit: I told you, killall blast
[01:05] <moonunit> dabar, nope
[01:05] <moonunit> its not running
[01:06] <moonunit> seriously, sudo apt-get install blast, try it yourself
[01:06] <roostishaw> ANYONE... how do i launch GTKWifi?
[01:06] <xapaho> anyone runs FireStarter fine here ? I'm having many troubles with it (and/or iptables)
[01:06] <dyrne> moonunit: theres always the old alt-ctrl-bkspace
[01:07] <roostishaw> xapaho, what kind of troubles?
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> Wow.
[01:07] <wang> ablomen: yeah, one of my friends took a running start at a monitor with a baseball bat and hit it as hard as he could...it hurt his hands more than it hurt the monitor
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> Current Ubuntu Dapper has 41.8MB of python packages and related libraries that aren't used by any actual applications, 114 packages in all
[01:07] <mhuynh> I want to install evolution data server 2.4.1 from gz file
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> including bicyclerepair (a python programmer's tool) and diveintopython (a book on python)
[01:07] <bluefoxicy> installed by ubuntu-desktop 0.98
[01:07] <ablomen> wang: lol i think that tells more about your friend than about that monitor :P (no offence btw ;))
[01:07] <alpha254> xapaho, in gui desktop or on a remote server?
[01:07] <mhuynh> I have run ./configure but the make command is giving problems
[01:08] <dabaR> moonunit: I am at work.
[01:08] <mhuynh> I am very new at this
[01:08] <moonunit> dabar, that got it
[01:08] <dabaR> how?
[01:08] <dabaR> See, I rule.
[01:08] <xapaho> gui desktop, I'll describe gradually the issues
[01:08] <xapaho> 1) nothing goes through the server until FireStarter is launched once
[01:08] <moonunit> ctrl-alt-BS killed it
[01:08] <roostishaw> Can someone please tell me how to launch GTKWifi?
[01:08] <dyrne> mhuynh: sudo apt-get install build-essential have you done that yet?
[01:08] <moonunit> now, off to synaptic so i dont do that again,
[01:08] <Madpilot> dabaR: he's right, the holes blast makes don't go away when the app is stopped...
[01:08] <mhuynh> yes I have
[01:08] <jimmygoon>  Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:09] <mhuynh> I am not sure of the switch to use
[01:09] <moonunit> madpilot, Ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:09] <CanYouHelpMePlz> si usted realmente sabe espaol, usted no me dir ir al es
[01:09] <mhuynh> make install does not work
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> i'm about to try nomachine.  they said try this command
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> dpkg-query -l 'libpng*'
[01:09] <dabaR> I would use ps aux and kill it.
[01:09] <Madpilot> moonunit: later, I'm in the middle of a couple of things right now :P
[01:09] <Arafangi1n> WHat's an easy to use vpn client?
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> i get two ii on the left side of terminal
[01:09] <dyrne> mhuynh: what application are you trying to install?
[01:09] <fr500> Arafangi1n: what kind of VPN
[01:09] <jjjjjjj> does this mean Installed?
[01:09] <moonunit> right
[01:09] <mhuynh> evolution
[01:09] <moonunit> now does anyone know a good game that i should get?
[01:10] <amphi> jjjjjjj: yes
[01:10] <moonunit> that would run fine on my p3
[01:10] <xapaho> 2) an error dialog pop up every time I launch the interface "can't execute". however it fixes it by itself within a second or two and goes "blue"
[01:10] <Arafangi1n> fr500: The kind of vpn you have at uni where they just use the standard vpn software on windows or mac.
[01:10] <jjjjjjj> thx amphi
[01:10] <dyrne> mhuynh: you wanted a different version that the one included?
[01:10] <mhuynh> I am trying to connect to groupwise server but it keeps crashing
[01:10] <ablomen> moonunit: castle wolfenstein: enemy territory
[01:10] <moonunit> that doesent blow holes in my programs
[01:10] <amphi> jjjjjjj: are you compiling something?
[01:10] <fr500> Arafangi1n: like the windows VPN wizard?
[01:10] <moonunit> castle wolfenstein...
[01:10] <mhuynh> So I am trying to update the data server
[01:10] <moonunit> is there a sudo apt get for that?
[01:10] <Arafangi1n> fr500: Yup.  The defacto standard, anyway.
[01:10] <fr500> Arafangi1n: that's pptp, you need pptpclient, google for it!
[01:10] <Arafangi1n> fr500: The macs use that?
[01:10] <ablomen> moonunit: no but its a installer that does everything for you ;)
[01:11] <fr500> Arafangi1n: never used one
[01:11] <fr500> Arafangi1n: XP does though
[01:11] <moonunit> ablomen, from where?
[01:11] <jimmygoon>  Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:11] <ablomen> moonunit: just google, itll be on top of the list
[01:11] <moonunit> ablomen, one that i could run on linux, not windoze
[01:11] <mhuynh> dryne : yes
[01:11] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: chat goes too fast here :) 1) nothing goes through the server until FireStarter is launched once. 2) an error dialog pop up every time I launch the interface "can't execute". however it fixes it by itself within a second or two and goes "blue"
[01:11] <Madpilot> moonunit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[01:11] <ablomen> moonunit: yes there is a linux version
[01:11] <moonunit> awesome
[01:11] <dyrne> ubotu: tell mhuynh about paste
[01:11] <iceman> cant access chapters  anyother dvd players for linux
[01:12] <alpha254> xapaho, you on 5.10 ubuntu?
[01:12] <roostishaw> xapaho, what kind of device are you using?
[01:12] <dyrne> mhuynh: can you paste the error to link ubotu gave you?
[01:12] <Madpilot> iceman: do you have the libdvdcss stuff installed?
[01:12] <Madpilot> !tell iceman about dvd
[01:12] <jimmygoon>  Hi guys. Any idea why switching from 5.10 to 6.04 would cause my mouse to move terribly slowly (even after changing the preferences)???
[01:13] <magenie> !dvd
[01:13] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:13] <mark_> ubuntu made me beautiful again
[01:13] <dyrne> jimmygoon: maybe something in xorg.conf?
[01:13] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: yes, ubuntu breezy, A7N8X-E deluxe with builtin 100mb and 1Gb -- 3) the gui sometimes hangs while editing existing rules, randomly. I also had two rules which I could no more edit, I had to delete those and recreate them
[01:13] <dabaR> jimmygoon: yes, cause it is not April
[01:14] <jimmygoon> dabaR - lol what does that mena?
[01:14] <jimmygoon> :O lol
[01:14] <dabaR> It means 6.04 is 2006 april.
[01:14] <jimmygoon> i know ;)
[01:14] <jimmygoon> lol
[01:14] <jimmygoon> I will look around ... hmm
[01:14] <elijah> hello
[01:14] <jimmygoon> no... sorry I'm running Dapper Drake Flight 4 or w/e it is
[01:15] <jimmygoon> the one that came out like today
[01:15] <dabaR> ya
[01:15] <dabaR> really
[01:15] <dabaR> how is that
[01:15] <jjjjjjj> should i download .deb or .gz for nomachine?
[01:15] <jimmygoon> ?
[01:15] <dabaR> you think that is cool?
[01:15] <jimmygoon> lol
[01:15] <jimmygoon> yes
[01:15] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: What is the .deb for?
[01:15] <jjjjjjj> nomachine client
[01:15] <thomas__> .debian
[01:16] <Madpilot> jjjjjjj: if it's not in the Ubuntu repos, get the deb
[01:16] <thomas__> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:16] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: Debian, Ubuntu, or any other wacko distro?
[01:16] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: 4) some events are dispayed "blocked" while they are connections coming from my private network (eg dhcp packets !?). This is also "random" eg. hopefuly my dhcpd answers correctly
[01:16] <jjjjjjj> ?
[01:16] <jjjjjjj> nomachine as in nomachine.com
[01:16] <bimberi> jjjjjjj: is this FreeNX?
[01:16] <moonunit> hey madpilot, any way i can change the download-to directory?
[01:16] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: Dude, what OS do you run?
[01:16] <jjjjjjj> ubuntu
[01:17] <jjjjjjj> edubuntu sorry
[01:17] <xapaho> alpha254: roostishaw: do all that together make any sense to u guys, or are they distinct issues ?
[01:17] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: If it's windows, download the windows client, if it's Debian, download the debian client, if it's ubuntu, then DOWNLOAD THE UBUNTU client, savvy?
[01:17] <jjjjjjj> savvy.
[01:17] <Madpilot> moonunit: for which app? Firefox keeps that in it's configs somewhere
[01:17] <jjjjjjj> just that i had both on my desktop
[01:17] <ablomen> dyrne: bored? ;)
[01:18] <Arafangi1n> jjjjjjj: If they do not offer an ubuntu client, though, then I generally download the .tar.gz
[01:18] <dyrne> ablomen: working at a helpdesk for 8 hrs and taken two calls so yes :)
[01:18] <ablomen> dyrne: lol
[01:19] <moonunit> madpilot, take the link you sent me, in it it says 'use wget -c http://ftp.games.skynet.be/pub/wolfenstein/et-linux-2.60.x86.run'   any idea how i could change where it saves this?
[01:19] <RickX> anyone know if I run WindowMaker as my wm with a LiveCD is I have settigs saved to a USB key drive?
[01:19] <KevinMitnick> FRee Kevin
[01:19] <KevinMitnick> Kevin Free
[01:19] <ablomen> moonunit: yeah just change the dir your in
[01:19] <elkbuntu> KevinMitnick, how about you either ask a question or move on?
[01:20] <moonunit> orly?
[01:20] <dabaR> RickX: are you asking whether you can save session from live CD to a usb key?
[01:20] <moonunit> how do i switch drives?
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> is today the 19th?
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> Thats my question
[01:20] <amphi> KevinMitnick: date(1)
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> date
[01:20] <ablomen> KevinMitnick: nope the 20th ;)
[01:20] <Madpilot> moonunit: it'll download it to whatever directory you're in when you give the wget command
[01:20] <annex> Howdy!  I'm currently (still) running Hoary.  Now that I finally have a few minutes to spare I was thinking of upgrading to Breezy.  How should I go about this to avoid problems?  Any suggestions?
[01:20] <KevinMitnick> okay
[01:20] <elkbuntu> depends where in the world you are
[01:21] <RickX> dabaR, no. Can I use WindowMaker as my wm when running from a LiveCD?
[01:21] <dabaR> RickX: sure, install it if it is in the repo.
[01:21] <jjjjjjj> can i say the f word here?  cuz i got  libstdc++5 and ++b but nomachine comes back with  nxclient depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; however:
[01:21] <jjjjjjj>   Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[01:21] <KevinMitnick> Elk
[01:21] <KevinMitnick> ...
[01:21] <moonunit> madpilot, how do i view another drive in terminal?
[01:21] <iceman> anyone got a good sources.list with the extra sources ...
[01:22] <elkbuntu> what?
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: You would have to configure your startup scripts to mount your drive BEFORE the wm starts, and configure symbolic links such that the sessions point to your key.  For example, ~/.gnome (and many others) would have to be a symbolic link to /mnt/usb/session/gnome
[01:22] <jjjjjjj> ++6 i meant
[01:22] <bimberi> ubotu tell jjjjjjj about freenx
[01:22] <RickX> dabaR, where does it install if I am using a LiveCD?
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: It would be alot of work.
[01:22] <ablomen> moonunit: depends on where its mounted ;)
[01:22] <LjL> jjjjjjj: was that a debian package that you tried to install?
[01:22] <Madpilot> moonunit: it needs to be mounted
[01:22] <iceman> i need a sources.list with SeveasPackages in it
[01:22] <dabaR> RickX: into the ether.
[01:22] <Madpilot> !mount
[01:22] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:22] <elkbuntu> o.O
[01:22] <moonunit> ive got them it mounted
[01:22] <moonunit> thats not the problem
[01:22] <dabaR> RickX: RAM, somewhere, I don't know.
[01:22] <jjjjjjj> nxclient_1.5.0-141_i386.deb
[01:22] <Madpilot> anyway, I need to go - real world needs attention
[01:22] <jrr> okay who else has tried out xgl?  i need the expose key!
[01:22] <moonunit> i need to navigate to them via terminal
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: Alternatively, you could copy from the key at start, in your init scripts, then copy them back at the end, using some sort of cleanup script.
[01:22] <iceman> !codec
[01:22] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iceman
[01:22] <Arafangi1n> RickX: Have you got it mounted manually, or automounted?
[01:23] <btdown> hey Ubotu, is there a list somewhere of all the ! help topics?
[01:23] <LjL> jjjjjjj: i don't have that in my repos, so i suppose it could indeed be a debian package
[01:23] <iceman> !codecs
[01:23] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:23] <LjL> jjjjjjj: debian packages aren't necessarily compatible with ubuntu
[01:23] <dabaR> !helloWorlds
[01:23] <ubotu> dabaR: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:23] <dabaR> btdown: ^
[01:23] <btdown> Thanks.
[01:23] <jjjjjjj> i was reading up on freenx and saw the nomachine link
[01:23] <RickX> Arafangi1n, I don't have anything yet. I am DLing install CDs.
[01:24] <dyrne> jjjjjjj: best to goto wiki.ubuntu.com and follow instructions there
[01:24] <iceman> madpilot got a sources list with SeveasPackages available
[01:24] <btdown> !worksforme
[01:24] <ubotu> "Works For Me" is not actually useful advice in any way.
[01:24] <Arafangi1n> RickX: It would require manual editing of all your /etc/gdm scripts, as a minimum.
[01:24] <moonunit> madpilot, i need to navigate to them via terminal, there already mounted
[01:24] <btdown> lol..
[01:24] <jjjjjjj> dyrne:  for freenx ?
[01:25] <dyrne> jjjjjjj: yes search for freenx walks through installing server and client
[01:25] <bimberi> jjjjjjj: did you get the /msg from ubotu?  anyway it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:25] <RickX> OK, thanks.
[01:25] <LjL> jjjjjjj: are you absolutely sure you have the package it complains about installed?
[01:25] <iceman> !wine
[01:25] <jjjjjjj> pretty sure...
[01:25] <OmegaAlpha> how do you find out the amount of memory used by a video card? i need to know it to setup easy ubuntu
[01:26] <jjjjjjj> ii  libstdc++5     3.3.6-8ubuntu1 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[01:26] <jjjjjjj> ii  libstdc++6     4.0.1-4ubuntu9 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[01:26] <LjL> jjjjjjj: but that's not the package it complained about, unless i misunderstood you
[01:26] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: well lspci -v will give model details and such
[01:26] <LjL> jjjjjjj: wasn't it complaining about libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ?
[01:27] <romeo> hello
[01:27] <jjjjjjj>  Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[01:27] <jjjjjjj>   You mean i have to install an earlier version?
[01:27] <Hostile> has anyone here gotten the fglrx drivers working in dapper?
[01:27] <LjL> jjjjjjj: that's not an earlier version, it's just a different package
[01:27] <moonunit> madpilot, you there, i could really use a hand with this.
[01:27] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne, ''Memory at f4100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 
[01:28] <jjjjjjj> ahhhhhh  thanks dude
[01:28] <LjL> jjjjjjj: otherwise you wouldn't even have the *choice* of installing it from the current breezy repos
[01:28] <romeo> does anyone know with what app i should use to install limewire?
[01:28] <LjL> jjjjjjj: just "sudo aptitude install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2"
[01:28] <LjL> !tell romeo about limewire
[01:28] <jjjjjjj> I'm going back to windows... my fingers are sore from typing all weekend. :~
[01:28] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: see if it show a prefetchable
[01:28] <jjjjjjj> NOT
[01:28] <cradek> hi all, can someone help me with my CD burner
[01:29] <cradek> when I click Write to Disc, it asks me to insert a blank disc, and when I hit OK, it just asks again forever
[01:29] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne,  Memory at f6000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] 
[01:29] <d510> hi gang - trying out ubuntu on a g4 500mhz and not really liking how slow it is. Is there anyway to speed it up? Maybe a guide or something?
[01:29] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: thats what you want i believe
[01:29] <iceman> jjjjjjjj good, winblows my have a lot going for it in it's own way, but it lacks and ties you down...
[01:29] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne, you wouldnt happen to know what 32M is in Kb do you?
[01:29] <primoturbo> Is there anyway to remove the ^ from custom menu bar?
[01:30] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: 32768
[01:30] <madSERBIAN> hi can anyone help mi abou ubuntu cd shiping
[01:30] <madSERBIAN> about
[01:30] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: hangon..
[01:30] <dyrne> OmegaAlpha: should be
[01:30] <LjL> dyrne, OmegaAlpha: yeah, it is, if you adopt the "binary" convention
[01:30] <OmegaAlpha> dyrne, k... cause im configuring xserver-xorg and its asking me it
[01:31] <cradek> does CD burning work for anyone?
[01:31] <cradek> I know my hardware is good...
[01:31] <ablomen> cradek: jup works for me
[01:31] <madSERBIAN> hi can anyone help mi abou ubuntu cd shiping
[01:31] <jjjjjjj> woo hoo!  thx everyone
[01:31] <alpha254> works
[01:31] <asimismo> Anybody here do LVM over software raid?
[01:31] <asimismo> ...on Breezy?
[01:31] <Op3r> hello
[01:31] <fr500> cradek: gnomebaker flawless here
[01:32] <bimberi> madSERBIAN: just ask, if someone knows they'll answer
[01:32] <navarone> cradek, no complaints
[01:32] <cradek> fr500: is that what you get when you click Write to Disc in gnome (nautilus?)
[01:32] <Op3r> I just got promoted to be a network admin and I told my boss to use ubuntu on our call center but theres a but
[01:32] <dyrne> cradek: try k3b
[01:32] <fr500> cradek: no, it's another program
[01:32] <asimismo> Dang. Gotta run... Be back later!
[01:32] <cradek> fr500: does nautilus not work for you?
[01:32] <Op3r> anyone here can help me customizing the ubuntu setup for a call center business?
[01:33] <navarone> cradek maybe serpentine from nautilus
[01:33] <jjjjjjj> iceman: my parting with windows has everything to do with vista.  I feel it will only widen the gap between the haves and have nots.
[01:33] <romeo> is limewire instalable on ubuntu?
[01:33] <LjL> romeo: ubotu sent you some private messages
[01:33] <ablomen> cradek: it works but k3b is better
[01:33] <Op3r> romeo: try emule for linux?
[01:33] <bimberi> ubotu tell romeo about limewire
[01:33] <madSERBIAN> i need to know how long does it take to (send) come, i am from Europe, Yugoslavia-Serbia
[01:33] <wvelez> is there a way to create divx5 movies...i can create xdiv but my dvd player only supports divx...thanks
[01:33] <madSERBIAN> aproximatly
[01:33] <wvelez> ubuntu 5.10
[01:33] <romeo> yes i tried that but i have trouble connecting
[01:33] <romeo> with emule
[01:33] <cradek> so nobody uses the default gnome way to burn a cd?
[01:34] <fr500> cradek: never tried
[01:34] <LjL> Op3r: don't think i can help you, but out of curiosity, what's required of a computer running in a call center?
[01:34] <odat> wvelez, use the ubuntu forums
[01:34] <iceman> jjjjjjj got to agree, i have migrated slowly to linux more and more... now in a 64 bit box, got to go linux  ...
[01:34] <ablomen> romeo: you can use "alien" to install the limewire.rpm package on their site
[01:34] <navarone> cradek I do...insert cd-r and follow prompts...?
[01:34] <wvelez> odat: thank you
[01:34] <Op3r> LjL: can I private message you?
[01:34] <dyrne> romeo: did you setup port forwarding?
[01:34] <LjL> Op3r: sure
[01:34] <romeo> yes
[01:34] <cradek> navarone: yeah, I hit OK on that window, and it just comes back right away
[01:34] <iceman> anyone have a sources list for wine ...
[01:35] <navarone> cradek what comes back?
[01:35] <LjL> !tell iceman about wine
[01:35] <jjjjjjj> well i've installed suse/novell/ubuntu/edubunto about 20 times this weekend for learning.
[01:35] <tarek> I'm a complete newbie.. can you give me step-by-step instructions on installing skype. I tried installing the debian package available on skype's website and was told it needed libraries which I can't find. Thank You.
[01:35] <odat> iceman, go to winehq.com
[01:35] <ablomen> iceman: its on the wine website
[01:35] <romeo> i know limewire requires java
[01:35] <cradek> navarone: the same window that says "Insert a rewritable or blank disc"
[01:35] <cafuego> tarek: Uninstall skype's package and go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl instead.
[01:35] <dyrne> romeo: if router has option for dmz server you might try putting ip of your ubuntu box
[01:35] <jjjjjjj> and testing
[01:35] <navarone> jjjjjjj, you need help...;)
[01:35] <odat> romeo, use gtk-gnutella
[01:35] <bimberi> madSERBIAN: the shipit site says 4-6 weeks
[01:35] <cradek> navarone: "Please put a CD-R/CD-RW, with at least 439 MiB free, into the drive [Cancel]  [OK] "
[01:36] <navarone> cradek, and you have disk inserted?
[01:36] <madSERBIAN> thank you
[01:36] <tarek> how do I uninstall the skype package
[01:36] <cradek> navarone: yes
[01:36] <romeo> ok i ll try that
[01:36] <Op3r> anyone tried customizing ubuntu install that only hace gnome with firefox and xlite enabled?
[01:36] <cradek> navarone: in fact inserting it popped up this CD creator window
[01:36] <ablomen> cradek: just use k3b, that just works
[01:36] <bimberi> madSERBIAN: yw :)
[01:36] <navarone> cradek what kinda writer do you have?
[01:36] <odat> romeo, you need the one from the website the one is the repos is too old
[01:36] <romeo> but the way i have another puter with windows and i m never on it hardly
[01:36] <cradek> navarone: HP IDE 8x
[01:36] <romeo> i love linux
[01:36] <dyrne> romeo: but for limewire just sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 and then download from lime website
[01:37] <cradek> ablomen: I don't have any KDE installed.
[01:37] <IdleOne> cradek:  doesnt matter
[01:37] <ablomen> cradek: ik installs all you need for you
[01:37] <navarone> cradek I have had no probs...in fact I was impressed in how seamless it all goes...just put in cd and away you go...
[01:37] <odat> cradek, all right man :)
[01:37] <cradek> chris@buster2:~$ sudo cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
[01:37] <cradek> Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100
[01:37] <fr500> cradek: try gnomebaker it's good
[01:37] <ablomen> cradek: *it
[01:37] <romeo> ok
[01:37] <romeo> i ll be back later
[01:38] <jjjjjjj> darnit thunderbirds not starting and my user/pass for the nomachine demo is in there
[01:38] <navarone> gnomefreak, I made xfce my default manager. I was impressed how fast opera loaded on it...lol
[01:38] <cradek> trying gnomebaker...
[01:38] <gnomefreak> navarone: everything is faster in xfce
[01:39] <odat> cradek, you'll like it
[01:39] <gnomefreak> i cant wait to get mine back :(
[01:39] <beena> ubotu thunderbird
[01:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[01:39] <adminlaw_> hello
[01:39] <gnomefreak> hi
[01:39] <IdleOne> hey
[01:39] <gnomefreak> navarone: you running breezy?
[01:39] <adminlaw_> just loaded unbunt
[01:40] <navarone> gnomefreak, yes breezy...and xfce defaults to higher resolution too
[01:40] <gnomefreak> adminlaw_: anything we can help you with tonight?
[01:40] <annex> I'm finally upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, should I use the 'Smart Update' feature, or the regular update?  or another method?
[01:40] <adminlaw_> well first i need to convert to kde
[01:40] <gnomefreak> annex: you need to use dist-upgrade
[01:40] <gnomefreak> adminlaw_: convert? you can have both on ubuntu
[01:40] <IdleOne> adminlaw_:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <adminlaw_> thanks
[01:40] <odat> annex,  i would use the terminal
[01:41] <odat> adminlaw_, ewww
[01:41] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:41] <navarone> gnomefreak, I notice xfce menus are crammed with extra entries as well...interesting how much is left out of gnome menus...lol
[01:41] <gnomefreak> annex: after changing your sources.list to breezy run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and relax it will be a while
[01:41] <IdleOne> not to mention xfce is nicer looking
[01:41] <adminlaw_> i meant to copy your text
[01:41] <adminlaw_> lol
[01:42] <adminlaw_> thanks
[01:42] <gnomefreak> navarone: if you grab the debian menu for gnome everything is in there all text based apps and everything :)
[01:42] <odat> IdleOne, there is a room called xubuntu
[01:42] <navarone> IdleOne, I like the theme I had going in gnome but I have same basic one in xfce...except icons are a bit different
[01:42] <gnomefreak> odat: you found it what may we help you with :)
[01:42] <adminlaw_> I usually run mandrake
[01:42] <odat> gnomefreak, ?
[01:42] <IdleOne> odat:  Ill keep that in mind
[01:42] <adminlaw_> but this is looking cool
[01:42] <annex> gnomefreak: cool, basically the instruction for apt-get on here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:42] <navarone> gnomefreak, yeah I have that in xfce and gnome menu
[01:42] <gnomefreak> odat: this is the xfce room for ubuntu
[01:43] <gnomefreak> annex: yep that would be it
[01:43] <odat> gnomefreak, uhm ok
[01:43] <navarone> adminlaw_, I used 8.1 -10.0 Mandrake and ubuntu and debian package system beats it hands down
[01:43] <annex> gnomefreak: I already have a breezy CD from a friend.  What is needed so it'll use that when possible to save time/bandwidth?
[01:43] <IdleOne> navarone:  ever try getting help in #mandriva
[01:44] <IdleOne> it's impossible
[01:44] <gnomefreak> annex: you can do a clean install with disk
[01:44] <gnomefreak> im not so sure how update would go about it with cd
[01:44] <robbie_> I did apt-get install kdebase but I got this.. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:44] <robbie_>   kdebase: Depends: kappfinder (>= 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6) but it is not going to be installed
[01:44] <navarone> IdleOne, while using Mandrake(s) I was on 56k and almost never able to get modem configured
[01:44] <robbie_> along with about 15 other dependancies
[01:44] <annex> gnomefreak: I'd prefer not to do a clean install unless I need to.  I just mean have it use the packages off the CD
[01:44] <mustard5> gnomefreak, the instructions for doing it via a CD are on the wiki guide
[01:44] <gnomefreak> robbie_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:44] <robbie_> shouldnt apt go and install the dependancies?
[01:45] <jjjjjjj> i'm only able to start thunderbird from a terminal
[01:45] <gnomefreak> robbie_: are you on breezy?
[01:45] <navarone> IdleOne, I think my disdain for kde megan then too...kppp was the bane of my existance...lol
[01:45] <robbie_> it said E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[01:45] <odat> robbie_, i'm soooooo ehhh nm
[01:45] <IdleOne> navarone:  Ive tried mandrake a few times over the past 5 years and could never get it to do anything I wanted or get any help from users
[01:45] <iceman> anyone able to help me get wine up, Diablo II " in ubuntu"
[01:45] <alison> helo?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> robbie_: the other day someone had same issue his sources.list was mixed
[01:45] <robbie_> yeah im on breezy
[01:46] <gnomefreak> robbie_: paste your sources.list on pastebin please
[01:47] <navarone> IdleOne, on mandrake 10 I had just gotten ethernet card working and tried urpmi update and hosed the whole thing...<s> Windows install too
[01:47] <robbie_> http://pastebin.com/563636
[01:47] <gnomefreak> has anyone heard when xfce will be finished being upgraded?
[01:47] <mustard5> annex, the wiki guide for upgrading to breezy shows the several options for upgrading..one of those is 'via CD'
[01:47] <navarone> gnomefreak, is xfce for dapper gonna use xgl?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> robbie_: put a # infront of the cdrom repo and take the # away from the rest that start with deb
[01:48] <IdleOne> navarone:  never had problems with getting ethernet working . always worked out of the box but I couldnt get any user help and that is the main reason I like ubuntu so much because ppl in here are just great ()
[01:48] <gnomefreak> navarone: not sure there is no xfce for dapper right now :(
[01:48] <navarone> IdleOne, agreed
[01:48] <odat> xfce is really cool but will be great when they get desktop icons
[01:48] <che> i have a quick newbie question... i have downloaded ubuntu 5.1 and i'm wanting to dual-boot xp and ubuntu on my notebook.  if i pop in my cd and run the install will it configure the dual boot on its own?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> odat: there is an icon package for it
[01:48] <IdleOne> !dualboot
[01:48] <ubotu> methinks dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:48] <annex> mustard5: okay, people seemed to think going via console was safer... I was hoping for the least number of problems after.  It does look like it suggests that as being equal as a method though
[01:48] <navarone> odat...i have icons for mounted volumes in xfce...
[01:49] <tritium> che: you will be given that option, yes
[01:49] <cradek> che: yes, it will give you the option of setting up dual boot.
[01:49] <odat> gnomefreak, i'm not talking about rox pinboard or idesk
[01:49] <Nogimics> Can anyone tell me why when I use putty to connect to my 1 shell filetypes are distinguished by colour codes but not on my ubuntu box when i ssh in with putty?
[01:49] <odat> gnomefreak, i mean built in
[01:49] <xhie> hey, does anyone know how to rotate the screen? to portrait mode I mean. I need it to boot up rotated.
[01:49] <bimberi> che: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:49] <che> thanks everyone.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> odat: in the repos there is an icon set for xfce as well as fluxbox and blackbox
[01:49] <navarone> xhie that was officially the strangest request...congrats...;)
[01:49] <mustard5> annex, its a valid method of doing it.  I would just read the instructions with care and you shouldn't have any issues
[01:50] <gnomefreak> i had it before they ripped xfce out from under me
[01:50] <xhie> hehe its a tablet, everything else is working great, just need it to rotate now
[01:50] <odat> gnomefreak, icons on your desktop?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> robbie_: let me know when your done changing it
[01:50] <gnomefreak> odat: yes had
[01:50] <robbie_> I did it
[01:50] <gnomefreak> all fixed?
[01:51] <annex> mustard5: thanks.  the only thing it leaves ambigious is that it asks if I want to do a regular or 'smart' update.  Any suggestions?  The 'smart' way seems to want to upgrade more packages
[01:51] <cradek> xhie: depending on the video driver, you may be able to rotate X, but you will probably not be able to rotate the text console.
[01:51] <robbie_> no apt-get install kubuntu-desktop still gives me E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <gnomefreak> odat: im missing very important package for xfce right now
[01:51] <gnomefreak> robbie_: sudo apt-get update
[01:51] <tritium> robbie_: have you updated your package listing?
[01:51] <mustard5> annex, I'll just have a look over the wiki guide...
[01:51] <IdleOne> navarone:  only problem I had with ubuntu is getting java to work and that was when i was still detoxing from windows ( first couple of days were tough )
[01:52] <IdleOne> heh
[01:52] <odat> gnomefreak, well you must not understand what i mean cuz i did a search and couldn't find it
[01:52] <robbie_> root@ubuntu:/home/robbie# apt-get update
[01:52] <robbie_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:52] <robbie_> root@ubuntu:/home/robbie# apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <robbie_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:52] <robbie_> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:52] <robbie_> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: you do know there are debs for java right?
[01:52] <navarone> IdleOne, I don't sweat that small stuff...;)
[01:52] <moonunit> how do i go about making a swap partition?
[01:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  got it to work after some crying and moaning and reading the wiki properly
[01:52] <gnomefreak> robbie_: did you take the # away from all the lines that started with deb?
[01:52] <robbie_> yeah that leaves no uncommented deb lines
[01:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  was to used to just click next syndrom
[01:53] <amphi> moonunit: do you have a partition for swap?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> robbie_: kubuntu-desktop is in the main repo
[01:53] <Op3r> any net admin here?
[01:53] <moonunit> amphi, no i dont, thats why i asked
[01:53] <robbie_> I just did a find-next search for dep to make sure I did
[01:53] <robbie_> *deb
[01:53] <navarone> IdleOne, Linux mascot is a penguin...windows should be a sheep...<s> <baaa> <s>
[01:53] <gnomefreak> !info kubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  I followed the first method in the wiki
[01:53] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[01:53] <mustard5> annex, the only thing I can think is that the 'smart upgrade' is looking to update stuff from the internet...not really sure
[01:53] <amphi> moonunit: you need to make a partition, and then do sudo mkswap /dev/whatever_it_is
[01:53] <IdleOne> navarone:  lol thats not a bad idea. send bill an email
[01:53] <gnomefreak> robbie_: open synaptic and do a search in there for kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <mustard5> annex, a number of packages have been upgraded since the CD was first released
[01:54] <robbie_> theres no repos in sources.list that dont start with deb so uncommenting them all basically gives me a blank sources.list
[01:54] <amphi> moonunit: you activate it by sudo swapon /dev/whatever
[01:54] <robbie_> commenting them all I mean
[01:54] <gnomefreak> robbie_: i didnt want you taking the # away from the comments
[01:54] <annex> mustard5: cool I think I'll just give the 'smart' one a shot
[01:54] <moonunit> amphi, i have 3 drives in this computer, the small one has my ubuntu install on it, one is just storage, and the last one is my windoze install
[01:54] <amphi> moonunit: it can be activated automatically at boot by adding the appropriate entry to /etc/fstab - man 5 fstab has the details
[01:54] <mustard5> annex, k :)
[01:54] <robbie_> no no I mean every line that has something on it now has a # after I put a # in front of all the lines starting with deb
[01:54] <moonunit> i want to do the swap on the neutral drive
[01:54] <annex> mustard5: thanks for the hand holding ;-)  I just don't wanna meck of my system too bad
[01:55] <robbie_> giving me a virtual blank sources.list
[01:55] <moonunit> i have all three mounted
[01:55] <navarone> IdleOne, I'll do better than that...send him a note along with the ubuntu cd's I have had sent to him...<woot>
[01:55] <gnomefreak> robbie_: paste the new sources.list please
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, you know how to get onto irc from command line?
[01:55] <annex> mustard5: currently am using irssi and screen
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, that will help if you do strike trouble :)
[01:55] <IdleOne> navarone:  you didnt send him ubuntu cd's for real?
[01:55] <navarone> IdleOne, lol...nooo
[01:55] <IdleOne> lmao we should
[01:55] <dyrne_> moonunit: maybe easiest to use cfdisk /dev/hd* to make partition
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, ah ok..you shouldnt have any major issues
[01:55] <navarone> IdleOne, he can afford a stamp...;)
[01:55] <mustard5> annex, just pop in here if you do
[01:56] <moonunit> cfdisk?
[01:56] <annex> mustard5: when I installed debian back in the day and the release was buggy causing X not to work irssi saved my life ;-)
[01:56] <robbie_> its here http://pastebin.com/563650
[01:56] <mustard5> annex, :)
[01:56] <IdleOne> navarone:  didnt cost me anything to get the cd's and they sent 6
[01:56] <dyrne_> moonunit: sudo cfdisk /dev/whateverharddrive will open cfdisk displaying paritions and will let you add or del more
[01:56] <FlannelKing> If I wanted my ubuntu box to have a static IP (on my home network), I'd just set it at the config screen, is there anything else I have to do, router wise or anything?
[01:57] <moonunit> dyrne, PM me if you can
[01:57] <navarone> IdleOne, I dl'ed my iso
[01:57] <gnomefreak> robbie_: take the # away from the repos that start with word deb you have 0 repos enabled right now you cant even get updates
[01:57] <dyrne_> moonunit: then follow previous instructions on making partitiion swap
[01:57] <moonunit> dyrne, i dont know the names of my drives
[01:57] <robbie_> what about the line that has cdrom in it?
[01:57] <IdleOne> navarone:  I figured if I can get them free why not ()
[01:57] <moonunit> nor do i know how to navigate to them from terminal, which would help alot
[01:57] <dyrne_> moonunit: sudo fdisk -l will list them
[01:57] <jjjjjjj> bye everyone... going for some sunshine
[01:57] <Mordof> how would i put a panel object to wine an exe in opengl mode?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> robbie_: take the # away from lines 5,6,10,11,20,21,30,31,33,35,36
[01:58] <dyrne_> moonunit: cfdisk /dev/hda or hdb etc.
[01:58] <robbie_> all done, doing apt-get update now
[01:58] <gnomefreak> robbie those are the line numbers in pastebin that you need to remove the # from
[01:58] <moonunit> k
[01:58] <gnomefreak> crap :(
[01:59] <gnomefreak> robbie_: let me know if it errors
[01:59] <robbie_> I deleted the cdrom line alltogether
[01:59] <robbie_> ok
[01:59] <gnomefreak> not sure if the backports need multiverse
[01:59] <mustard5> robbie_, the CD rom line is not absolutely necessary, so thats fine...the same packages on the CD are online as well
[01:59] <IdleOne> robbie_:  good idea
[02:00] <gnomefreak> robbie_: apt was looking on cdrom for kubuntu-desktop and its not on disk thats what was wrong now that you have enabled all the other repos you will get kubuntu-desktop
[02:00] <robbie_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) .. I got that, I think the little taskbar  update thing  in gonme is interfering with it
[02:00] <robbie_> ill shut it down
[02:01] <mustard5> robbie_, I'd let it do its thing first
[02:01] <gnomefreak> robbie_: close synaptic if its open
[02:01] <moonunit> dyrne, how do i tell which is my windows install?
[02:02] <dyrne_> moonunit: it will prob show up as ntfs under the System colum
[02:02] <moonunit> well haha
[02:02] <moonunit> my linux one is whateverthehell format
[02:02] <moonunit> and the other two are FAT32
[02:03] <iceman> anyone able to help me get wine to run Diablo II
[02:03] <IdleOne> whateverthehell format is that new?
[02:03] <bimberi> wow, smoke for gnome?
[02:03] <IdleOne> bimberi:  its a new theme lol
[02:03] <xhie> wine will run diablo II?
[02:03] <bimberi> IdleOne: lol
[02:03] <moonunit> dyrne, my linux one i know, the other two are both fat32
[02:04] <Fackamato> how can I find out what has changed in a package of an upgrade?
[02:04] <fr500> iceman: most likely wont work, try cedega
[02:04] <xhie> 90% of the time the most I can get wine to do is give me a welcome  screen for games...
[02:04] <bimberi> Fackamato: the release notes
[02:04] <tritium> Fackamato: read the changelog.Debian.gz in its /usr/share/doc/<packagename> dir
[02:04] <elijah> chon
[02:04] <goodtimes> why would installing gentoo work fine but when I install ubuntu I get a grub error 17? both are using grub
[02:04] <Fackamato> thanks
[02:04] <dyrne_> moonunit: well if youre not sure you could mount them. theyre prob already mounted under your /media/ directory
[02:05] <moonunit> dyrne, there mounted, i can view and store files from them
[02:05] <Mordof> heh, cedega is a laugh
[02:05] <tritium> bimberi: yours is fine too ;)
[02:06] <dyrne_> moonunit: is there any freespace on them? not part of the partition
[02:06] <gnomefreak> ok night all i got to get up at 5 :(
[02:06] <fr500> Mordof: works fine for me
[02:06] <moonunit> no.
[02:06] <Mordof> fr500, for what games?
[02:06] <IdleOne> night gnomefreak
[02:06] <bimberi> tritium: :)
[02:06] <xhie> anyways, does anyone know what I have to change in xorg.conf to get it to boot X rotated in portrait mode? or point me somewhere that has instructions? I looked I swere I did, cant find it
[02:06] <mustard5> Mordof, I can run Homeworld 2 and Railroad Tycoon 3 via cedega...for Medieval Total War I boot up in win98se
[02:06] <dyrne_> moonunit: ach sorry its 8:00 and im free good luck :)
[02:06] <fr500> Mordof: Counter Strike :p
[02:06] <fr500> Mordof: diablo works fine too
[02:07] <Mordof> fr500, thats an opengl game, no kidding
[02:07] <Mordof> mustard5, yeah... understandable
[02:07] <Mordof> all of my games.. out of all of em, the only one that is playable in cedega is warcraft 3
[02:07] <Mordof> which works perfect in wine anyway
[02:07] <Mordof> xpand rally, need for speed underground 1 and 2, halo, painkiller...
[02:07] <mcmillen> is there a way of running fsck "slowly"? i have a raid card that seems to crash when too much load is put on it... but i'd like to fsck the drives before replacing it, if possible
[02:07] <mustard5> Mordof, has the 'unofficial wiki' given you any hints?
[02:08] <Mordof> mustard5, nah, i dont bother with that when dealing with pay to play products. if it doesn't work on install, its not worth it
[02:08] <mustard5> Mordof, they often show what settings will work with different games anyway :)
[02:08] <Mordof> imo cedega shouldnt be charging anything right now, im running an nvidia 6800 xt and i cant even play need for speed underground on lowest graphis
[02:09] <Mordof> mustard5, ahh i see
[02:09] <Mordof> mustard5, now i have the not-so-fun task of backing up my 28gb home directory and formatting to get windows xp back on so i can play some games :P
[02:10] <mustard5> Mordof, reinstalling windows will destroy grub too :)
[02:10] <mustard5> Mordof, so that should be fun if you are still going to be dual booting
[02:10] <Mordof> mustard5, which is why im formatting completely and reinstalling ubuntu
[02:10] <newbiesszz> has anyone installed evolution 2.4.2
[02:11] <mustard5> Mordof, ah ok..I see now
[02:11] <Op3r> fdisk /mbr can destroy grub
[02:11] <Mordof> mustard5, very easy that way :)
[02:11] <matt_> hi... I have a question about getting perl and cgi going on ubuntu/debian
[02:11] <mustard5> Mordof, hehe yeah..I've done it the 'hard way', but its not easy to explain how its done
[02:12] <Mordof> mustard5, heh.. hrmm.. is there actually a virtual pc thing that i could use to install a copy of windows xp on and run games from inside that?
[02:12] <Mordof> i know i could do that in windows anyway
[02:12] <dekela> any good links to start customizing my flight 4 installation?
[02:13] <mustard5> Mordof, its rings a bell..but I don't know the details
[02:13] <Mordof> k
[02:13] <Mordof> mustard5, how hard is it to change the /home dir?
[02:13] <matt_> if I just install "libcgi-perl" and put my cgi scripts in "/usr/lib/cgi-bin" will I be all set to run cgi scripts?
[02:13] <Mordof> im so mad at myself.. i put my /home dir on my 80gb instead of on my 250gb, and my linux install on the 250
[02:14] <jetscreamer> change it
[02:14] <Jivenix> hey i think i found a bug in bash
[02:14] <jetscreamer> boot a live cd and tar em up
[02:14] <Jivenix> if i "more somefile.png"
[02:14] <Jivenix> and "q" in the middle of it
[02:14] <Jivenix> all text following is garbled
[02:14] <Mordof> jetscreamer, that to me?
[02:14] <Jivenix> strange, ascii chars
[02:14] <thelsdj> Jivenix: type 'reset'
[02:14] <jetscreamer> sure
[02:14] <Mordof> :|
[02:15] <Jivenix> that worked
[02:15] <Jivenix> what was that all about?
[02:15] <thelsdj> :)
[02:15] <jetscreamer> or just reinstall, won't take long
[02:15] <thelsdj> viewing binary data on terminal messes it up
[02:15] <Jivenix> ah
[02:15] <Mordof> jetscreamer, i was thinking more along the lines of resizing the partition that ubuntu is on to like 40gb, and then making the rest my /home partition
[02:15] <randabis> howdy fella
[02:15] <jetscreamer> dpkg --get-selections >whatyouinstalledsofar.txt
[02:15] <randabis> s
[02:15] <thelsdj> its not meant to display all possible characters
[02:15] <jetscreamer> dpkg --set-selections < whatyouinstalledsofar.txt
[02:15] <jetscreamer> after
[02:15] <FlannelKing> If I wanted my ubuntu box to have a static IP (on my home network), I'd just set it at the config screen, is there anything else I have to do, router wise or anything?
[02:15] <mustard5> Mordof, it should be as easy as changing the 'mount point' if you have a seperate partition for /home  I would think
[02:16] <navarone> Mordof how big a drive?
[02:16] <Mordof> mustard5, yeah my /home is seperate
[02:16] <Mordof> navarone, im running a 250gb and an 80gb, i want my 250gb partition (holding ubuntu) sized to about 40-60gb, and the rest made for my /home
[02:16] <Mordof> navarone, but im hoping i can do this without reinstalling ubuntu
[02:16] <randabis> I'm testing out the new Dapper Flight 4 (currently using Windows atm) and have run into a small wireless networking problem
[02:17] <navarone> Mordof you can resize partitions in gparted
[02:17] <Mordof> navarone, on the same partition ubuntu is running on?
[02:17] <vaquero> how do you get rid of the SPLASH screen on boot up?  In RedHat you boot into INIT 3 as oppose to INIT 5 (i think) - so how do we do it in Ubuntu?
[02:17] <IdleOne> !wireless
[02:17] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:17] <navarone> Mordof but you should really use a live cd...partition has to be unmounted to resize
[02:17] <mustard5> Mordof, a liveCD would do the trick perhaps
[02:17] <Mordof> navarone, whats the smallest liveCD i can get?
[02:17] <randabis> I have a broadcom 4318 chipset integrated into the laptop I'm using and Dapper Flight 4 detected it on install and even downloaded a few updates
[02:18] <randabis> The problem is the network is not working on the completed install
[02:18] <bimberi> FlannelKing: nope, just make sure the fixed address is in the network range recognised by the router (eg. 192.168.1.NN) and you should be fine
[02:18] <RockyBurt> randabis: but doesn't the broadcom 4318 chipset require ndiswrapper ?
[02:18] <FlannelKing> bimberi, thanks
[02:18] <Mordof> mustard5, cool.. how do i then change my /home dir partition once its all resized?
[02:18] <randabis> The card is still detected (but is eth0 not wlan0 like it normally would be)
[02:18] <bimberi> FlannelKing: yw :)
[02:18] <navarone> Mordof it is possible to use ubuntu install cd to resize as well i think...you do resizing of existing partition and then abort install when changes are written...
[02:18] <alpha254> navarone, i've done that before and it works well :)
[02:19] <randabis> RockyBurt apparently not in dapper flight 4 it was detected during the install, and it had me set up an essid, etc
[02:19] <newbiesszz> does anyone have a deb version of evolution 2.4.2
[02:19] <navarone> alpha254,  :)
[02:19] <cafuego> randabis: wlan0 would be a from ndiswrapper or somesuch; eth0 means thwe actual kernel detected it.
[02:19] <Mordof> navarone, ok, ill try that
[02:19] <Mordof> thanks
[02:19] <IdleOne> !evolution
[02:19] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[02:19] <RockyBurt> randabis: did you upgrade from breezy? or do a fresh install?
[02:19] <navarone> Mordof you just have to scroll down to see abort install option in install menu
[02:19] <randabis> cafuego: oh, okay
[02:19] <mustard5> Mordof, I'm not very experienced with partitioning.   I worry a lot whenever I do it. :)
[02:20] <randabis> RockyBurt: fresh install from the Flight 4 64-bit CD
[02:20] <navarone> mustard5, I do as well...but backupd make me less nervous...,s>
[02:20] <RockyBurt> i wonder if an upgrade from breezy is possible
[02:20] <Discipulus> Increasing the the client's receive buffer (31.0 KB) will improve performance <~~~ How do I do this?
[02:20] <LinuxJones> randabis, mine was auto detected too
[02:20] <randabis> LinuxJones does it work?
[02:20] <vaquero> how do you get rid of the SPLASH screen on boot up?  In RedHat you boot into INIT 3 as oppose to INIT 5 (i think) - so how do we do it in Ubuntu?
[02:20] <Mordof> mustard5, heh, ive done it a bit, just never with linux.. brb while i partition
[02:21] <Mordof> navarone, whats backupd?
[02:21] <randabis> Mine won't work...it keeps telling me "network is down" when I try dhclient
[02:21] <navarone> backups
[02:21] <fr500> vaquero: f2 i think
[02:21] <Mordof> how does that work
[02:21] <vaquero> f2?
[02:21] <LinuxJones> randabis, It has no problem starting up but I don't have a wireless router
[02:21] <Xenguy> vaquero: rcconf, de-activate gdm, that's it
[02:21] <mustard5> Mordof, you can tar your /home...in a tar.gz file btw
[02:21] <vaquero> Fr500 is that like init?
[02:21] <randabis> LinuxJones oh okay
[02:21] <navarone> Mordof I mean bacjking up data before resizing
[02:21] <bimberi> cafuego: onya, that one had mystifed me to some extent too (my IPW2100 is eth0)
[02:21] <vaquero> Xenguy ok - let me try is
[02:21] <Xenguy> vaquero: you may have to install rcconf
[02:21] <Mordof> mustard5, yeah but that wont do me any good if i cant burn it onto a dvd will it?
[02:22] <Mordof> navarone, oh ok
[02:22] <Discipulus> Increasing the the client's receive buffer (31.0 KB) will improve performance <~~~ How do I do this?
[02:22] <vaquero> let me google rcconf
[02:22] <vaquero> thanks Xenguy
[02:22] <Xenguy> vaquero: apt-cache show rcconf
[02:22] <Xenguy> vaquero: yw
[02:22] <LinuxJones> randabis, I just got an Aspire 5002 wxga is so nice :)
[02:22] <mustard5> Mordof, yeah..you would need some external storage device
[02:22] <mcmillen> is there a way of marking a filesystem clean, even if it's not (yes, i know that's ing an ext2 filesystem clean
[02:22] <mcmillen> oopsie :)
[02:23] <Xenguy> vaquero: or you can do command-line 'update-rc.d' (man update-rc.d)
[02:23] <mustard5> Mordof, cross your fingers and hope for the best? :P hehehe
[02:23] <_jason> vaquero: system > admin > services should let you deactivate gdm as well
[02:23] <randabis> Well, like I said, during the install the network was apparently working...dhclient pulled up an IP, and it downloaded updates to certain packages during the install. When the install was complete, and I got into gnome, the network is not working, and tinkering with the included networking config program is not producing any results
[02:23] <Xenguy> _jason: good point
[02:23] <randabis> LinuxJones nice; I have a Gateway MX6421...15in widescreen rocks
[02:23] <Mordof> mustard5, lol
[02:23] <LinuxJones> randabis, you mean the wireless card ?
[02:24] <Mordof> mustard5, my /home is on a seperate hard drive entirely, so if i dont touch that drive it wont be a problem... that is, until i try to send it to another partition
[02:24] <mustard5> Mordof, ah ok...
[02:24] <randabis> LinuxJones my problem is with the wireless card, the gateway thing there is the laptop model
[02:24] <Mordof> question for anyone: how would i go about moving my /home from one harddrive to another without reinstalling ubuntu?
[02:25] <vaquero> _jason - ur right - I used rcconf anyway - didn't read ur comment
[02:25] <vaquero> thanks!
[02:25] <jetscreamer> just /home ? cp -a
[02:25] <_jason> vaquero: good to know too
[02:25] <Xenguy> Mordof: just migrate and possibly edit /etc/fstab AFAICT
[02:25] <jetscreamer> then edit fstab
[02:25] <LinuxJones> randabis, you have to modprobe the broadcom driver, I just put it in /etc/modules so it get's loaded at every boot.
[02:25] <sethk> Mordof, why would that require you to reinstall?
[02:25] <Mordof> sethk, cause i dont know how to do that
[02:25] <sethk> Mordof, I can't think of a way to do it that _would_ require you to reinstall
[02:26] <hunterp> poontang
[02:26] <tecs> hi after upgrading last night using update manager.....and successfully installing upgrades.... this morning just now my computer when grub booted....windows is gone from the menu
[02:26] <jetscreamer> moving both the installation and the /home, switching them, would be easy also
[02:26] <Mordof> jetscreamer, yeah but.. in the filesystem its all in there
[02:26] <randabis> LinuxJones I could try that...it is apparently already detected though since it is assigned an interface...eth0
[02:26] <sethk> Mordof, just create the new space with some other name, copy all the data from /home into it, rename /home to something else, create an empty /home, and mount the new space on it
[02:26] <Mordof> jetscreamer, wait, i could SWITCH the installation and the home onto the same partitions???
[02:26] <randabis> ifconfig only shows lo, but if you do ifconfig eth0, it shows the broadcomm wireless
[02:26] <jetscreamer> yes you could do that also
[02:26] <Mordof> how!?
[02:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell Mordof about partitionhome
[02:26] <Mordof> that would be the best!
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, so you might, say, create a directory /usr2, then mount your new space there, and do cp -av /home/. /usr2/.
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, then you rename the /home directory
[02:27] <LinuxJones> randabis, The module wasn't loaded for me after initial install that's what I did to make it work.
[02:27] <jetscreamer> unmount /home, mount it somewhere else, then cp -a /mnt/oldhome /home
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, then you di mkdir /home
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, then you umount /usr2, and mount that same space on /home
[02:27] <LinuxJones> randabis, do lsmod to see if it's loaded already
[02:27] <sethk> Mordof, makes no difference whether home is currently a separate partition.
[02:27] <randabis> LinuxJones I'll go try that...I wish I could do it within windows...:p that would be nice.
[02:27] <mister_roboto> does anyone here run dapper on vmware, or have you tried?
[02:28] <sethk> Mordof, you will also have to correct /etc/fstab to reflect the change
[02:28] <sethk> jetscreamer, sure, slight variations on the same theme
[02:28] <Mordof> jetscreamer, yeah but you're all saying it different and im getting so damn confused :S
[02:28] <randabis> anyway, brb
[02:28] <randabis> gotta boot into dapper
[02:28] <Mordof> jetscreamer, yours made the most sense to me :P lol
[02:28] <mustard5> Mordof, maybe you can drag someone off to another channel to walk through it step by step :)
[02:28] <sethk> Mordof, then try what he told you.
[02:29] <sethk> Mordof, it's actually easier to do than to explain
[02:29] <Mordof> sethk, i see
[02:29] <keithhhhhhhhh> I just had a problem partitioning my HD to install ubuntu..
[02:29] <keithhhhhhhhh> What is RAID?
[02:30] <mustard5> Mordof, I reckon I could do it from the sounds of it
[02:30] <jetscreamer> Mordof: most important thing to remember is that never erase anything untill you KNOW it works
[02:30] <corvax> ifyou dont know what raid is you dont have it
[02:30] <jetscreamer> !raid
[02:30] <ubotu> [raid]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[02:30] <sinaduel> hey guys, how do i enable the universal database in synaptic .. i just installed and for some reason there is no updates , and when i go to upgrade to kubuntu via synaptic i search and it dosent show up ?
[02:30] <mustard5> Mordof, you want to go to #kubuntu-offtopic and we can give it go?
[02:30] <Mordof> ill be in channel.... #switchparts      if someone wants to come help me, thatd be awesome
[02:30] <sethk> damn, I can't remember which machine I installed the tftp server on.
[02:30] <mustard5> Mordof, ok #switchparts gotcha :)
[02:31] <keithhhhhhhhh> great hehe
[02:31] <keithhhhhhhhh> I guess Ill try again
[02:31] <Gunner112k> Hello, my ubuntu install won't even boot
[02:32] <sinaduel> hey guys, how do i enable the universal database in synaptic .. i just installed and for some reason there is no updates , and when i go to upgrade to kubuntu via synaptic i search and it dosent show up ?
[02:32] <Gunner112k> after installing a couple packages, specificly grub and lilo
[02:32] <LinuxJones> Gunner112k, you installed lilo ?
[02:32] <Gunner112k> I tried
[02:32] <Gunner112k> uninstalled afterwards
[02:33] <Gunner112k> then reinstalled grub
[02:33] <sinaduel> can someone please help ???
[02:33] <Gunner112k> I'm typing from the emergency session
[02:33] <mcquaid> hello, i'm having some stability issues with mplayer plugin, and  I wanted to compile from source
[02:33] <sethk> sinaduel, you need the repository list?
[02:33] <mcquaid> when i install the ubuntu packages it works with epiphany and firefox
[02:33] <LinuxJones> Gunner112k, what errors are you getting ?
[02:33] <mcquaid> how do i ensure it works with any mozilla based browser when compiling?
[02:34] <Gunner112k> I would like to know but I can't copy-paste the log
[02:34] <Gunner112k> or so I think
[02:34] <sethk> Gunner112k, put it on a paste bot
[02:34] <mcquaid> i thought i'd need firefox dev pkg, but do i need both? the epiphany dev pkg in addition
[02:34] <Gunner112k> x-session the file was, I think
[02:34] <Xnos> can i restore the temp folder?... i reboot the pc and all has gone
[02:34] <sinaduel> sethk: when i click on repositorys th cd is the only thing that shows up
[02:34] <sethk> Gunner112k, x-session has nothing to do with grub
[02:34] <Ubeyguy___> is there a repository that has gmake and apche and mysql i can add?
[02:34] <sethk> sinaduel, not sure how that happened, but you'll have to add the other repositories to the list
[02:35] <Infohawk> I had a messed up install, installing to usb-hdd. I didn't create any users. How do I get root privileges?
[02:35] <Gunner112k> well that thing is messing up my ubuntu install
[02:35] <sethk> Infohawk, you'll have to boot a rescue cd and either do a chroot, or set the root password temporarily to blank
[02:35] <Gunner112k> I log in and I got a window that says "your session lasted less than 10 seconds"
[02:35] <tecs> hi, after upgrading yesterday my windows is now gone from my grub menu. i upgraded using upgrade mangaer and upgraded all the avail;able upgrades for my packages
[02:35] <zebraFusion> how do you rename files in terminal?
[02:35] <sethk> Gunner112k, try a non-graphical install
[02:36] <sethk> zebraFusion, mv
[02:36] <fr500> zebraFusion: rename
[02:36] <zebraFusion> fr500, thanks
[02:36] <fr500> zebraFusion: but mv works too
[02:36] <fr500> zebraFusion: mv filename newfilename
[02:36] <zebraFusion> fr500, ah, thanks.
[02:36] <sethk> rename is something different
[02:37] <Ubeyguy___> ?
[02:37] <corvax> n curses is not really graphical
[02:38] <Ubeyguy___> anyone?
[02:38] <corvax> heh
[02:38] <Infohawk> Is it possible to install with something even simpler than ncurses?
[02:38] <seth> hi
[02:38] <Fackamato> anyone tried initng?
[02:38] <Fackamato> gonna give it a try now
[02:38] <seth> not sure
[02:38] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:38] <bimberi> Ubeyguy: apache and mysql are in ubuntu's main repository.  gmake? do you mean GNU make - that's just called 'make'
[02:38] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: install build-essential to get make
[02:38] <seth> ok maajor geek fest bye
[02:38] <Ubeyguy___> thank you
[02:39] <sethk> Ubeyguy, the search function in synaptic is good for finding things like that
[02:39] <beerockxs> I'm using Xinerama with 2 screens, how can I set on which screen my apps start by default?
[02:40] <sethk> beerockxs, that's a window manager function.  I know how to do it in kde but not in gnome
[02:40] <navarone> cya folks
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:41] <burden> Im a bit of a linux newb, im having trouble getting my music to play, apparently I dont have "decoders"
[02:41] <sethk> ah, I can't find the tftp server in new york because I installed it in seattle.  Dumb program.
[02:41] <OmegaAlpha> g'evening/morning, i know this is common and i should know how to do this already...
[02:41] <_jason> burden: mp3?
[02:41] <burden> correct
[02:41] <beerockxs> anyone have an idea where to set that in gnome?
[02:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell burden about mp3
[02:42] <OmegaAlpha> i installed easy ubuntu and i guess it didnt install the java plugin.. but i need to install a java runtime plugin for firefox to play this game called RUNE.. i tried on firefox with its autoinstall but didnt work
[02:42] <_jason> beerockxs: you can use devilspie to tell windows where on the screen to open, don't know if when using two screens the second one just continues the x-values of the screen... if so then you could use devilspie
[02:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about java
[02:44] <burden> Thank you!
[02:44] <randabis> I'm back
[02:44] <beerockxs> is there an option to get the show desktop applet to work per screen?
[02:45] <PMantis> Does anyone know where apt stores its list of installed packages?
[02:45] <odat> beerockxs, per screen?
[02:45] <randabis> I had no luck with the modprobe bcm43xx suggestion. As I said earlier, the device is already detected and it has been assigned an interface eth0
[02:45] <mikeo1> 5 min till my dapper 4 finishes
[02:45] <beerockxs> odat: I'm using Xinerama
[02:45] <zebraFusion> is there such a command as "cdup"
[02:45] <sethk> PMantis, I think /etc/apt
[02:45] <zebraFusion> to move back one directory
[02:45] <mateon> zebraFusion: cd ..
[02:46] <mikeo1> anyone here running dapper 4 with xgl?
[02:46] <zebraFusion> Thanks, mateon
[02:46] <randabis> the problem is that the networking as a whole is down apparently...if you do ifconfig, the only thing that shows up is lo, the loopback device
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> mikeo1,  i was - and i advise.. dont try it. :P
[02:46] <zebraFusion> mikeol: I got it to work on my laptop but could not on my desktop.
[02:46] <mateon> PMantis: it is propably somewhere in /var. why do you want to know that?
[02:46] <Ubeyguy___> _jason: what do i type to install build-essentials
[02:46] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, thanks... btw i got errors when doing that setup install... about broken packages... does that mean some things didnt install?
[02:46] <randabis> however, if you do ifconfig -a, all devices are shown, including the wireless, eth0
[02:46] <roostishaw> Anyone.... does gtkWifi support WPA?
[02:47] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: use synaptic or 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[02:47] <PMantis> mateon, Something was goofed up with a few packages, and every time I update anything, it spits out errors about files not existing.
[02:47] <chon> elijah : t'es l?
[02:47] <sethk> randabis, it would be very unusual for the wireless to be eth0
[02:47] <taylor_> can anyone tell me how to get my yamaha speakers to quit sounding like poop these are supposed to be good speakers but the subwoofer doesnt sound right do i need a special driver to get it to sound right
[02:47] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: what setup install?
[02:47] <PMantis> mateon, if I can tell apt that webmin is (no longer) installed, it'll stop trying to remove it.
[02:47] <randabis> if you use the gnome network setup utility, it shows that eth0 is not active...I click the activate button, and it activates eth0, but I still can't connect and it is still not shown in the ifconfig
[02:48] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, when you first run EasyUbuntu after installation. You get to check what you want installed...
[02:48] <mikeo1> tried to go from the previous stable one to dapper before, but it killed my bootloader
[02:48] <mikeo1> when i did the kernel upgrade
[02:48] <Ubeyguy___> ?
[02:48] <mikeo1> so will just try to install dapper 4 then do xgl
[02:48] <randabis> sethk why? cafuego says otherwise since it is a wireless card that is supported by a kernel driver
[02:48] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: if it didn't work you should file a bug and inform developers
[02:48] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: what errors did you get?
[02:48] <PMantis> mateon, Any clue there?
[02:49] <mikeo1> are there any programs to make use of the extra buttons on my logitech mouse?
[02:49] <taylor_> can anyone tell me how to get my yamaha speakers to quit sounding like poop these are supposed to be good speakers but the subwoofer doesnt sound right do i need a special driver to get it to sound right
[02:49] <sethk> randabis, I have five machines with similar configurations, and the wireless is never eth0.  It has a different name.  The wired interface is eth0
[02:49] <Gunner112k> that was in my x-session.errors:
[02:49] <_jason> mikeo1: what mouse exactly?
[02:49] <sethk> randabis, even if I turn the wired interface off, the wireless is still never eth0.
[02:49] <randabis> Anyway, if you do dhclient, it sends a dhcp request to eth0, but it replies "network is down"
[02:49] <sethk> randabis, that's why I said it seems unusual.  Not impossible, of course,
[02:49] <Ubeyguy___>  tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:49] <mikeo1> logitech mx310
[02:49] <Ubeyguy___> tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:49] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: tell mikeo1 about logitech
[02:49] <mateon> PMantis: hrm, you should be able to find such info in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ or in the dpkg manpage
[02:50] <_jason> Ubeyguy___: tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:50] <_jason> argh...
[02:50] <Ubeyguy___> lol
[02:50] <Mordof> lol
[02:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell mikeo1 about logitech
[02:50] <randabis> sethk I read that this particular driver (bcm43xx) assigns it to an eth interface for some reason
[02:50] <mateon> PMantis: the former suggests apt-get -f install or dpkg --configure -a
[02:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ubeyguy___ about lamp
[02:50] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, let me run it again so it brings them up and i can copy them to paste bin.. i think its probs with repositories.. but i never had a prob with my reposits. i did the apt-get update toobefore and after
[02:50] <mikeo1> want to make hte extra buttons control xmms
[02:50] <mikeo1> :D
[02:51] <jetscreamer> man xkbmodmap maybe
[02:51] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, well i just tried installing the java pluggin and i think i got similiar errors with that too
[02:51] <PMantis> mateon, Heh, apt says, "webmin is already the newest version", but it's not even installed. :)
[02:51] <dabaR> ya...
[02:52] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: pastebin them
[02:52] <dabaR> the apt never lies
[02:52] <mateon> PMantis: try apt-get -f install webmin
[02:52] <dabaR> PMantis: aptitude search webmin
[02:52] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8915
[02:52] <dabaR> does it have two ii's beside it?
[02:52] <PMantis> mateon, That's what I just did.
[02:52] <PMantis> dabaR, I'll try that
[02:52] <dabaR> you better
[02:53] <Ubeyguy_> _jason: sorry
[02:53] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:53] <mateon> PMantis: well then, how about apt-get -f --purge remove webmin ?
[02:53] <Ubeyguy_> can you please tell me what to type?
[02:53] <_jason> Ubeyguy_: for?
[02:53] <randabis> hmmm
[02:53] <randabis> I wish I could figure this out
[02:54] <Ubeyguy_> _jason: i did sudo apt-get lamp
[02:54] <Ubeyguy_> says it cant find it
[02:54] <randabis> the wifi worked during the installation of dapper flight 4...
[02:54] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, yeah my bad i did the sudo command...
[02:54] <mateon> !lamp
[02:54] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ubeyguy_ about lamp
[02:54] <_jason> Ubeyguy_: read what ubotu sent you
[02:54] <braniff> apt-get install myass
[02:54] <dabaR> _jason: if you sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, and then decide you do not like it, so you sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop, it will remove all packages that you installed with kubuntu-desktop, the dependencies. sudo apt-get will not do that. thus, for normal everyday package management, aptitude is preferred for users.
[02:55] <LjL> dabaR: definitely
[02:55] <dabaR> LjL: thanks for the factoids/
[02:55] <Mordof> dabaR, ive had troubles with that, im now officially using aptitude
[02:55] <_jason> dabaR: ah very good point.  I was definitely annoyed with apt-get when i was in that situation
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason: a reply on a few days back...
[02:55] <Mordof> dabaR, i actually have done that very same thing.. lmao
[02:55] <dabaR> a follow up if you will
[02:55] <PMantis> mateon, Results of --purge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8916
[02:55] <PMantis> mateon, Error. :(
[02:56] <Ubeyguy> sorry my internet is killing me
[02:56] <Ubeyguy> jason did you answer me"??
[02:56] <dabaR> PMantis: did that show you the two ii beside it? the aptitude search webmin?
[02:56] <aldren> 10:54PM <braniff> apt-get install myass
[02:56] <aldren> hahaha
[02:56] <TokenBad> what is command to update the db for locate?
[02:56] <_jason> dabaR: I have been trying to use aptitude, one thing that I can't find is something similar to policy with apt-cache, show works but gives too much info
[02:56] <LjL> TokenBad: updatedb
[02:56] <_jason> Ubeyguy: did you get a private emssage from ubotu?
[02:56] <braniff> heh
[02:56] <TokenBad> LjL, thanks
[02:56] <Ubeyguy> yes thank you i will read up
[02:56] <LjL> _jason: why bother? just use apt-cache
[02:57] <aldren> braniff, like a apt-get moo
[02:57] <LjL> _jason: i use apt-cache to search for packages (and show them, etc), and aptitude to actually install and remove
[02:57] <dabaR> _jason: I still use apt-get for some things, but for normal installing of things, especially if they have deps, I was taught to use sudo. by crimsun, incidentally.
[02:57] <aldren> braniff, did you see it ?
[02:57] <PMantis> mateon, Even after error is seems it did purge it.
[02:57] <PMantis> dabaR, It did, but now it does not.
[02:57] <mateon> dabaR: I remember aptitude wanting to remove some packages installed by some other front-end to apt (synaptics perhaps?) else hapily stating that they are no longer necessary
[02:57] <PMantis> dabaR, I think mateon is on to something.
[02:57] <dabaR> PMantis: the ii m,eans it is insatlled.
[02:57] <_jason> LjL: right, just curious if aptitude had something similar
[02:57] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, heres the errors for EasyUbuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8917
[02:58] <dabaR> mateon: aptitude will remove unused packages too.
[02:58] <braniff> E: Couldn't find package myass -- DOH!
[02:58] <mateon> dabaR: hm, but the packages in question *were used*
[02:58] <purpleidea> would someone be able to direct me to where i could find out how to get the smp kernel working on an inspiron9400 duo 2.0ghz?
[02:58] <aldren> hahaha
[02:58] <mateon> PMantis: hrm, so it's ok now?
[02:58] <PMantis> dabaR, Yes, but it actually was *not* installed. whenever I ran an update on another package, it would complain about missing webmin files. I couldn't remove it because of errors, nor installed it (because apt said it was already installed).
[02:58] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: sudo apt-get update
[02:58] <zeecko> hola
[02:59] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, when do you switch from using apt-get install and sudo apt-get install?
[02:59] <dabaR> mateon: that is one reason I do not like aptitude. for example, if you use it to install ubuntu-desktop, which can safely be removed, and you try to remove it with aptitude, it will remove all of its deps.
[02:59] <PMantis> mateon, almost... dependency issues with webmin-*
[02:59] <Mordof> OmegaAlpha, i just always used sudo.. didnt think there was a difference
[02:59] <PMantis> mateon, I'll update you in a sec.
[02:59] <mustard5> purpleidea, I remember reading a quite comprehensive thread on the ubuntuforums on the subject...I'll have a look for it
[03:00] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: Sorry, I do not get the point of your q. after I had to manually remove xfce.
[03:00] <purpleidea> mustard5: i would appreciate it :)
[03:00] <zeecko> hi
[03:00] <Mordof> dabaR, he means whats the difference when using sudo and when not using it, and when is it appropriate to use either of the two
[03:00] <dabaR> Mordof: the difference is it will not work without sudo
[03:00] <moonunit> how can i navigate to another (mounted) HDD in my computer from terminal?
[03:00] <Mordof> dabaR, oh so you cant use it at all without it? k
[03:00] <dabaR> cause only root can install things
[03:00] <Mordof> k, thats what it hought
[03:00] <Mordof> i thought*(
[03:00] <LjL> ubotu, tell mordof about sudo
[03:01] <dabaR> unless you are root, which you are not in ubuntu by default
[03:01] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, i get an error at the end of doing sudo apt-get update...
[03:01] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: pastebin
[03:01] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: post your error and sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:01] <LjL> Mordof: but that's a *good* thing. it won't let you (or your programs) mess with your system unless you *clearly* specify so
[03:01] <dabaR> Did you guys know I'm just a stupid kid?
[03:02] <dabaR> Hey, sorry. that was my gf.
[03:02] <PMantis> mateon, Ok, webmin is now installed (and apt knows about it)
[03:02] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8918
[03:02] <LjL> heh
[03:02] <romeo> beep media player is my choice for ogg vorbis amd shoutcast streams
[03:02] <Gunner112k> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[03:02] <Gunner112k> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "kevin"
[03:02] <Gunner112k> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /dev/X will not be created.
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: Cannot create /dev/X
[03:02] <moonunit> ive got a problem, i need to mount my other two drives under /dev
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransPTSOpenServer: mkdir(/dev/X) failed, errno = 13
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransOpen: transport open failed for pts/Gunner112k:
[03:02] <dabaR> yay!
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for pts
[03:02] <dabaR> wooo!!
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransISCOpenServer: Protocol is not supported by a ISC connection
[03:02] <OmegaAlpha> gunner pastebin!
[03:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell Gunner112k about pastebin
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransOpen: transport open failed for isc/Gunner112k:
[03:02] <LjL> Gunner112k: please look at the topic. it mentions a pastebin ;)
[03:02] <PMantis> mateon, Thank you much!   I have one additional problem with a package. Since you're familiar I would appreciate guidance. I'll paste.
[03:02] <mateon> PMantis: that's good, right? Off to have a smoke
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for isc
[03:02] <dabaR> pastewave
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransSCOOpenServer: Protocol is not supported by a SCO connection
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransOpen: transport open failed for sco/Gunner112k:
[03:02] <Gunner112k> _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for sco
[03:03] <Gunner112k> ** (gnome-session:8070): WARNING **: Unable to read ICE authority file: /home/kevin/.ICEauthority
[03:03] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:03] <moonunit> _jason, got a minute?
[03:03] <dabaR> ride the pastewave
[03:03] <Gunner112k> and what if I don't know what a pastebin is?
[03:03] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, ok
[03:03] <mateon> PMantis: ok, I'll wait with that cigarette
[03:03] <LjL> Gunner112k: a bin which lets you paste things on?
[03:03] <dabaR> you ask the bot
[03:03] <_jason> moonunit: actually I'm kind of tired, I'm just gonna finish helping OmegaAlpha and then I'm out, just ask the channel
[03:03] <dabaR> Gunner112k: ^
[03:03] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Gunner112k about pastebin
[03:03] <moonunit> _jason, right
[03:03] <LjL> Gunner112k: you know, as you can see the channel here's quite busy, and it's more than a little annoying if people paste hundreds of lines of text ;)
[03:03] <moonunit> i need to mount my drives under /dev, any ideas?
[03:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Gunner112k about xhangs
[03:04] <dabaR> the channel is crazy last few days.
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, Ok, 2 errors here, but I don't care about the sun java one.
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8919
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, slapd is installed, and working, since I'm activelt using it for authentication.
[03:04] <PMantis> mateon, but apt still thinks it needs setting up.
[03:05] <mustard5> purpleidea, just curious what steps you have taken so far
[03:05] <mikeo1> can dapper 4 be run from an ext2 partition?
[03:05] <moonunit> i need to mount some drives under /dev, anyone who wants to help?
[03:05] <dabaR> dapper 4?
[03:05] <intelikey> hmmm it seems that this 'new and improved' bx has not got some of the features that it had before they improved it....  anyone know how to turn version reply off in bx nowadays ?    it used to be [del]    now it seems that that only deletes chars....
[03:05] <mikeo1> dapper flight 4 that was just released
[03:05] <dabaR> mikeo1: it may work, or it may not, right?
[03:05] <mustard5> purpleidea, are you having trouble installing a kernel from synaptic?  Or have you not tried synaptic yet? or some other issue?
[03:05] <mikeo1> yeah i guess lol
[03:05] <Protocol1> IE sucks im going back to IE
[03:06] <Protocol1> Firefox*
[03:06] <dabaR> awwww
[03:06] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8920 my source list
[03:06] <amphi> moonunit: what are you trying to do?
[03:06] <mister_roboto> Protocol1: sucks how?
[03:06] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: and the error?
[03:06] <bimberi> *which
[03:06] <corvax> he likes active x and dcom
[03:06] <mateon> PMantis: hmmm, how about moving /var/backups/o=switzerny,c=org-2.1.30-3ubuntu3.1.ldapdb out of dpkg's way?
[03:06] <corvax> security holes
[03:07] <purpleidea> mustard5: well i'm thinking it's not hardware related b/c smp works "out of the box" in fedora 4, smp starts to boot, and right before gdm loads it stays with the cursor in "hourglass" mode. naw, i've already installed the latest smp with synaptic, and all that works fine. just the loading from grub is the problem...
[03:07] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: comment _everything_ out, or just erase it.
[03:07] <Protocol1> mister_roboto, i just preffer the feel and looks of the fox
[03:07] <moonunit> i need help mounting drives.
[03:07] <Gunner112k> ubotu _jason wants you to know: If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[03:07] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Gunner112k
[03:07] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8918 thats the error
[03:07] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: what version of easyubuntu are you using, it's setting up plf incorrectly... I'm  gonna have the bot send you a link where you can make a new /etc/apt/sources.list and replace your current one
[03:07] <Gunner112k> I tried that and it said X not found, ICE not found
[03:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about easysource
[03:07] <intelikey> bimberi with konq thats never a problem  :)
[03:07] <mustard5> purpleidea, what graphics card are you using?
[03:07] <purpleidea> mustard5: i've been looking for a solution, other people have the same/similar issues, ie: if you look on the wiki
[03:07] <mister_roboto> Protocol: oh, I thought you meant that Firefox sucked and was wondering what you didn't like :)
[03:07] <bimberi> intelikey: lol
[03:07] <mateon> PMantis: there is propably a way to tell dpkg not to configure a certain package, but letting do it's job is fair easier
[03:08] <purpleidea> mustard5: its the nvidia7800 go 256mb
[03:08] <Nogimics> Can anyone tell me why when I use putty to connect to my 1 shell filetypes are distinguished by colour codes but not on my ubuntu box when i ssh in with putty?
[03:08] <Protocol1> i was talking about not liking IE
[03:08] <Protocol1> heh
[03:08] <Gunner112k> ubotu _jason wants you to know: If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[03:08] <ubotu> Gunner112k: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:08] <mustard5> purpleidea, just curious whether that is the issue...though I suppose gdm is actually loading..so maybe not
[03:08] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, umm will that be difficult... i think i might have added custom sources but wont be able to find them again...
[03:08] <Gunner112k> it said "no such file: Xauthority, ICEauthority"
[03:08] <_jason> Gunner112k: did you put the '.' ?
[03:08] <moonunit> anyone, help on mounting drives?
[03:08] <mister_roboto> Nogimics: different terminal type?
[03:09] <Gunner112k> n0
[03:09] <Smeggy> can anyone tell me how well the fan system is supported in Apple dual processor (NOT dual core) G5s?
[03:09] <intelikey> sudo rm *auth*
[03:09] <mustard5> purpleidea, have you installed nvidia drivers on your system from synaptic?
[03:09] <mikeo1> can drapper flight 4 be run from an ext3 partition?
[03:09] <mateon> !tell moonunit about ask
[03:09] <Gunner112k> ok so it didn't do anything
[03:09] <Gunner112k> let's see if something works
[03:09] <purpleidea> mustard5: no problem, ask whatever you like, i'm just trying to get this laptop fully functional, so that 1) it will work for me, and 2) i can post some stuff because it seems a ton of people are having similar problems, just came out feb1st
[03:09] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: Ill make you a sources.list, jsut erase it all
[03:09] <PMantis> mateon, Ok, tried that. Move the dir away, and now see:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8921
[03:09] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:09] <intelikey> moonunit what kind of drive   and where ?
[03:09] <dabaR> Ive made it almost
[03:09] <Nogimics> mister_roboto: What do you mean by that pls? One is ubuntu one is Linux but just wondering how I can get PuTTy to recognise filetypes by colour on both
[03:09] <amphi> moonunit: could you be more vague? ;)
[03:09] <mustard5> purpleidea, supplemental to that question would be have you installed the linux-restricted-module for your kernel version?
[03:09] <Fackamato> wow
[03:10] <Fackamato> initng is FAST
[03:10] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, you sure?  thats awesome. thanks
[03:10] <moonunit> well, i want to be able to navigate to them via terminal, so i thik i need to mount them under /dev, correct?
[03:10] <PMantis> mateon, Oh, hangon... I renamed that dir too.
[03:10] <moonunit> intelikey, HDD ^
[03:10] <_jason> OmegaAlpha: stick to what is on that easysource page, the custom ones you added are probably listed there.  To replace your current one just do "gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' " and delete the contents, replace it with what the page gives you, then "sudo apt-get update"
[03:10] <moonunit> amphi ^
[03:10] <dabaR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8922
[03:10] <Brumac> w00t installing ubunto for first time....im losing my ubuntu virginity
[03:10] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, on a wiki ATI page.. it gave me a repository to add.. youll see it at the bottom its the last one. do i have to go back and readd  them again like the wine repository?
[03:11] <dabaR> nice
[03:11] <intelikey> moonunit mount under dev  lol  no.      mount /dev/hd?# /mountpoint
[03:11] <cdsboy> hey is there anyone here who can help me get my external disk drive to work?
[03:11] <dabaR> thats seveas, that'll work, or not.
[03:11] <amphi> hey, OmegaAlpha
[03:11] <intelikey> moonunit man mount
[03:11] <Mordof> ok, when i run warcraft 3 i run..   cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/; wine war3.exe -opengl         how do i make this run in a panel object so i can just click on it to run warcraft 3?
[03:11] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: was it you told me about stellarium?
[03:11] <moonunit> intelikey, well im not certan what my drives names are
[03:11] <OmegaAlpha> _jason, thanks buddy i appreciate your time
[03:11] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, yes sir
[03:11] <Brumac> do I use Ext2 file system on the partition....I'm having it dual boot with XP
[03:11] <fr500> Mordof: you can make a shell script for that and then add a launcher for that
[03:11] <dabaR> Mordof: just add a custom launcher...
[03:11] <intelikey> moonunit fdisk -l /hd*
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, i got it working finally...
[03:12] <PMantis> mateon, OK! Error gone.
[03:12] <Smeggy> anyone?
[03:12] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:12] <mateon> PMantis: yay!
[03:12] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: i just built the current version, very nice
[03:12] <PMantis> mateon, I just need to make sure it didn't pooch my ldap database, but THANK YOU!!
[03:12] <dabaR> Smeggy: we3 don;t own one...
[03:12] <rewt_> Anyone have any luck getting wine in 64 bit?
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, what do you mean built?
[03:12] <cdsboy> is anyone willing to help me with my external drive problems?
[03:12] <mister_roboto> Nogimics: I thought you might be running a different terminal type in your configuration and that could be disallowing the colors (echo $TERM) when logged on. I have no idea, just guess
[03:12] <PMantis> mateon, Go have that smoke, on me.
[03:12] <PMantis> lol
[03:12] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: from src
[03:12] <intelikey> moonunit that assumes ide....  if scsi or usb  use   fdisk -l /dev/sd*
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, isnt it cool!its real time too!
[03:12] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: did you fix it?
[03:12] <meepy> How do I install GTK-Engines-2.7.3 or higher?
[03:12] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, fix what?
[03:12] <moonunit> intelikey, there all ide.
[03:12] <Smeggy> dabaR, someone must know though ;)
[03:13] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: yeah, it is most excellent, thanks
[03:13] <dabaR> OmegaAlpha: I have never seen _so_ many crazy sources.
[03:13] <purpleidea> mustard5: i've been using the 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[03:13] <dabaR> Smeggy: what did you ask?
[03:13] <Mordof> dabaR, that command doesn't work, says cd is wrong
[03:13] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: did you get dri working for you?
[03:13] <cdsboy> has or does anyone run ubuntu off a external drive here?
[03:13] <Brumac> dual booting XP and Ubunto...do I select Ex2 file system on the partition I want Ubunto on?
[03:13] <Smeggy> can anyone tell me how well the fan system is supported in Apple dual processor (NOT dual core) G5s?
[03:13] <dabaR> Mordof: in a custom launcher? put it in quotes.
[03:14] <moonunit> intelikey, not helping man.
[03:14] <intelikey> meepy search synaptic or apt-cache search gtk
[03:14] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, hehe have no idea what happened... i have probs with my ATI vid card and i had to add a reposit to try to fix it.. it worked fine yesterday..
[03:14] <Mordof> no such directory
[03:14] <LjL> dabaR: cd is a bash command, it's not a real file in /bin
[03:14] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, i believe so.. but i have another problem... direct rendering...
[03:14] <dabaR> LjL: I never read what he wrote.
[03:14] <Mordof> fr500, how do i make a shell script for this?
[03:14] <LjL> dabaR: :)
[03:14] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, i have no idead what happened to the sources... im still new to linux.. only been using it for about a week not even
[03:15] <voice> quick question
[03:15] <mustard5> purpleidea, I'm just curious whether your linux-restricted-module for that kernel version is installed
[03:15] <LjL> Mordof: what about just using "wine /home/you/.wine/whatever" instead of the cd thing?
[03:15] <dabaR> "/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/; wine war3.exe
[03:15] <dabaR> pah
[03:15] <voice> what would make the ubuntu installer completely ignore the current partiton table?
[03:15] <Heathen_> Is there an option to make files show up on one's bottom panel in gnome?  I don't know if I accidentally switched it off, but all I have on the bottom panel right now is my trashcan
[03:15] <cdsboy> help anyone????
[03:15] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: still? damn
[03:15] <intelikey> moonunit well that's nice.    you don't know where your drives are if fdisk -l  can't help you find them, then i doubt i can either.
[03:15] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im finally in Ubuntu  :D
[03:15] <frazmanw> anyone running Dapper: are there repositories I should add for restricted stuff? mp3 dvd etc? and any multiverse type stuff???
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[03:15] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:15] <theonyxdragoon> using windows 98, how do i reboot the computer so it's priority drive is the CD-ROM?  sorry, i just can't seem to figure it out on my laptop
[03:15] <farous> !anybody
[03:15] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> theonyxdragoon,  its a bios setting.
[03:16] <crimsun> !info libgtk2.0-0
[03:16] <dabaR> LjL: "/home/mordof/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/wine\ war3.exe"?
[03:16] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: (The GTK+ graphical user interface library), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2004 kB, Installed size: 4476 kB
[03:16] <purpleidea> mustard5: it seems to be, yes. v: 2.6.12.4-11.1 of the restricted module
[03:16] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, yeah i fixed the GLX extension prob but now i dont know how to enabledirect rendering
[03:16] <crimsun> !info libgtk2.0-0 dapper
[03:16] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: (The GTK+ graphical user interface library), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.11-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2022 kB, Installed size: 4496 kB
[03:16] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, i have no idea that must e somethign wine did
[03:16] <LjL> theonyxdragoon: that's not an OS issue (i.e. nothing to do with Win98), you have to look in the BIOS
[03:16] <cdsboy> can someone help me with getting my external usb drive to boot
[03:16] <dabaR> it's all in dapper
[03:16] <LjL> dabaR: no, "wine /home/mordof/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/wine\ war3.exe"'
[03:16] <OmegaAlpha> dabaR, i guess wine added those to run those programs.. heh i dont even remember installing warcraft
[03:16] <theonyxdragoon> ok, thanks you guys
[03:17] <mustard5> purpleidea, I'm not sure of the implications of the version numbers being different
[03:17] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: glxinfo | grep rendering still says no?
[03:17] <corvax> congrats keith
[03:17] <corvax> heh
[03:17] <Mordof> LjL, entirely in quotes?
[03:17] <LjL> Mordof: not sure. don't think
[03:17] <Mordof> what about the -opengl
[03:17] <mustard5> purpleidea, I would have thought there was a version that matched your current kernel version...but I might be wrong
[03:17] <voice> anyone?
[03:17] <LjL> Mordof: just add it at the end.
[03:17] <dabaR> voice: ignore in what way?
[03:18] <eternaljoy> hi
[03:18] <Mordof> LjL, it doesn't open anything up when i do that
[03:18] <intelikey> moonunit did you run  fdisk -l /dev/hd?    so see if there were any partitions listed ?    also is /proc mounted ?         and     mount    should list ecerything that is mounted.
[03:18] <taylor_> how do i format my usb hardrive
[03:18] <taylor_> without using the install disc
[03:18] <LjL> Mordof: try running that command from a shell first
[03:18] <LjL> taylor_: "man mkfs"
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> taylor_,  format it to do what?
[03:18] <voice> like, it ignores the fact that there is a 70GB ntfs partiton and 2 5GB ext3 partitons
[03:18] <taylor_> to be blank
[03:18] <eternaljoy> i installed a secnd hard drive (hdb)!  How can I format this drive sector by sector to securely clean it as well?
[03:18] <eternaljoy> any ideas anyone please?
[03:18] <dabaR> Heathen_: you mean the ones that show what is open? a window list? right clic add to panel.
[03:18] <purpleidea> mustard5: i'm not 100% sure about kernel issues, it's not my strength. um in synaptic, it seems there is a restricted version that matches my smp kernel, but itself has a version too, which is the second number i gave you. of course i could easily be wrong, i'm still learning about this kind of thing
[03:18] <LjL> ejernaljoy: "man shred", "apt-cache show wipe"
[03:18] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:19] <gach> hi people
[03:19] <voice> it says the current partiton table is 8.4GB and 71.GB
[03:19] <ryanakca> anybody???
[03:19] <gach> any ideas of xorg 7 on breezy?
[03:19] <braniff> eternaljoy, sf.net to search for hdd cleaning proggies
[03:19] <Mordof> LjL, i need to cd to the dir first and then call the game or wine goes into a zombie state
[03:19] <mateon> voice: still, I do not understand what do you want it to do. Create another partition?
[03:19] <Mordof> gach, if someone helps you with it, i want to do that too at some point
[03:19] <mustard5> purpleidea, ah ok...
[03:19] <cdsboy> id you need a cd for a game you have to go "winecfg" in the terminal
[03:19] <eternaljoy> i installed a secnd hard drive (hdb)!  How can I format this drive sector by sector to securely clean it as well?
[03:19] <cdsboy> and add your cd drive as a drive
[03:19] <intelikey> eternaljoy dd
[03:19] <LjL> Mordof: uhm... i don't have gnome, so i don't know what the controls in the menu editor are... but is there not some box where you can type a "working directory" for the program?
[03:19] <gach> mordof ive herad of dapper but i dont want to update all my system
[03:19] <gach> jus xorg
[03:19] <mustard5> purpleidea, just mucking around in apt-cache searching for different versions atm :)
[03:19] <eternaljoy> intelikey: dd? how?
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> eternaljoy,  fdisk it, them mkfs.ext3 the partitions.
[03:20] <cdsboy> donnot update to drapper
[03:20] <Heathen_> dabaR, thanks =)
[03:20] <cdsboy> it is extremely unstable
[03:20] <gach> yeah i know
[03:20] <intelikey> eternaljoy dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb
[03:20] <eternaljoy> Dr_Willis: does mkfs.ext3 clean sector by sector?
[03:20] <purpleidea> mustard5: awesome, if you have any suggestions, i appreciate, send me something to work on if you have an idea
[03:20] <intelikey> eternaljoy or     dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb
[03:20] <LjL> eternaljoy: no, it doesn't. dd does. wipe and shred do even better
[03:20] <eternaljoy> intelikey: I tried once dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb!  but it lept looping for 20 hours
[03:20] <voice> I want to install Ubuntu on the 2 ext3 partitons that are on the disk. Debian w/ 2.4 sees the two partitons, Knoppix sees the two partitions, but Unbuntu and Debian w/ 2.6 do not see the partitons
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> eternaljoy,  that statemmt means 'nothing' - it FORMATS the drive. :P
[03:20] <purpleidea> mustard5: i've just reached the dead end as far as i know where to search for what to do next.
[03:20] <Mordof> gach, yeah same here
[03:20] <LjL> eternaljoy: if you want it *secure*, you need wipe or shred
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> you sound as if you want the dust removed. :P
[03:20] <cdsboy> is it possible to only install grub from the ubuntu install disk?
[03:20] <eternaljoy> LjL: how can I use shred to format my hdb?
[03:21] <Mordof> LjL, not that i can see
[03:21] <mateon> voice: now that is a good question
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> shred does not format.. it securely deltes everything.
[03:21] <gach> Mordoj have you tryed installing xorg 7 from dappe? directly without updating all?
[03:21] <LjL> eternaljoy: shred /dev/hdb i guess
[03:21] <eternaljoy> LjL: you sure? :P lol
[03:21] <Mordof> gach, nope, i dont know how
[03:21] <crimsun> cdsboy: sure, do it from a shell in the menu
[03:21] <cdsboy> ok
[03:21] <dabaR> cdsboy: in dapper it will be
[03:21] <LjL> eternaljoy: i think i recall that the man page for "wipe" has a description of how to do that anyway
[03:21] <eternaljoy> LjL: shred can format?
[03:21] <LjL> eternaljoy: no, it won't format, it will just wipe the data
[03:21] <cdsboy> and what do i have to do to get grub to reconize a partition
[03:21] <LjL> eternaljoy: you need mkfs to format
[03:21] <dabaR> or now..."-/
[03:21] <Se7h> how can i stop my external hard drive from going to 'sleep' mode ?
[03:22] <eternaljoy> ok thanks
[03:22] <cdsboy> i have grub and ubuntu installed on an external drive
[03:22] <voice> mateon, can I pm you?
[03:22] <ryanakca> anybody???
[03:22] <ryanakca> is there a repository that contains gtk+2.8.12 for breezy?
[03:22] <eternaljoy> LjL: does mkfs.ext3 clean sector by sector?
[03:22] <crimsun> ryanakca: no.
[03:22] <mateon> voice: no, lets stay in here
[03:22] <LjL> eternaljoy: no, it doesn't.
[03:22] <cdsboy> but grub starts up and gives me a menu like grub >
[03:22] <eternaljoy> ok
[03:22] <eternaljoy> ty bye
[03:22] <LjL> eternaljoy: as i said, you need (depending on the level of security you want) either dd, shred or wipe for that
[03:22] <voice> ok, well how do I get Ubuntu working so it will recognize the correct partiton table?
[03:22] <mateon> voice: in fact, I can't think of anything what would cause such behaviur. maybe someone else does...
[03:23] <cdsboy> if someone is willing to help me with my problems could you go to the grub channel and speak there
[03:23] <LjL> perhaps i should always repeat the same sentence twice, to get some redundancy.... otherwise people apparently don't hear
[03:23] <mustard5> purpleidea, have you got a link to this place where others are experiencing the same problem?
[03:23] <intelikey> eternaljoy  formatting does not over write data.   dd will over write the whole disk. then you make partition/s  and format them (make file systems on them)
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> LjL,  heh - i was about to say you sound like a broken record. :P
[03:23] <LjL> intelikey: he's gone
[03:23] <mateon> voice: does the installer recognize the partition types at least?
[03:23] <voice> no
[03:23] <LjL> dr-slizer: eh, not my fault... i replied, and he asked the same thing over and over again!
[03:23] <keithhhhhhhhh> what do you guys think is the best media player for ubuntu?
[03:24] <intelikey> LjL so i see.
[03:24] <LjL> Dr_Willis: that was to you
[03:24] <Se7h> keithhhhhhhhh maybe VLC
[03:24] <purpleidea> mustard5: yes: although not especially useful yet.
[03:24] <purpleidea> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron9400
[03:24] <keithhhhhhhhh> VLC is great in windows too  ;)
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> LjL,  at least hes not formating, then fdisking, then   wondering why it dident work...
[03:24] <Se7h> keithhhhhhhhh yup :)
[03:25] <Se7h> and quoting: how can i stop my external hard drive from going to 'sleep' mode ?
[03:25] <LjL> Dr_Willis: you sure? i think he's running mkfs, then fdisk, then wipe and then shred
[03:25] <mateon> voice: I can't think of anything, sorry
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> LjL,  then hes installinmg windows :P
[03:25] <LjL> Dr_Willis: and i'm sure in one of those four a "/dev/hda" instead of a "/dev/hdb" will slip ;)
[03:26] <crimsun> jsestri2: please pastebin your amixer output
[03:26] <moonunit> i cant get swapon to work, it says operation not permitted
[03:26] <Mordof> fr500, how do i make a script to do that add application launcher thing for my game?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> LjL,  and it will all be YOUR fault!
[03:26] <LjL> Dr_Willis: of course :9
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> moonunit,  run it as root with sudo
[03:26] <Guest20134> I can't install Ubuntu on my PC, why?
[03:26] <intelikey> Dr_Willis yeah.... there was one version of M$ fdisk that you could use on a formated partition and as long as all you did was remove and creat  i.e. same size the fs was still usable....
[03:26] <moonunit> ohhh
[03:26] <moonunit> okay
[03:26] <fr500> Mordof: nano script name.sh
[03:26] <jsestri2> crimsun: its got an error thats one line...
[03:26] <Mordof> Guest20134, a mouse chewed your wires
[03:26] <fr500> and insert the commands there
[03:26] <Se7h> Guest20134 lmao, a little vage
[03:26] <LjL> moonunit: when you do just about anything that affects your system as a whole, you must do it as root
[03:26] <mustard5> purpleidea, have you had a look through your logs in /var/log ?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> of course if mkfs.ext3 on what used to be a vfat partion - its going to be pertty much gone. :P
[03:27] <wazuppp> hello
[03:27] <Guest20134> I Install it from the Install CD, it shows the welcome screen with the login/pass and after I login, nothing happens.. I can only move the mouse, no background no taskbar no nothing.. Just the mouse.
[03:27] <sm> hi all.. I made a grub boot floppy according to the wiki howto, now how do I use it to boot this old laptop from cdrom ?
[03:27] <fr500> Mordof: with home relative paths or absolute paths i guess, then save the file, chmod +x it and add the launcher for it
[03:27] <taylor_> what is the difference between ext2 and ext3 formats? i wanna be able to read and write to all of it i had it formatted by windows a long time ago which one do i use
[03:27] <purpleidea> mustard5: a bit, but i don't know what i've found that's useful really.
[03:27] <dabaR> voice: how is it wrong? did you unmount everything?
[03:27] <Guest20134> same thing with LiveCD
[03:27] <jsestri2> crimsun: actually what argument should i pass?
[03:27] <voice> dabaR
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> taylor_,  use ext3 :P it is ext2 with a journel.
[03:27] <crimsun> jsestri2: no, just amixer
[03:27] <mustard5> purpleidea, in particular in might be interesting to see what Xorg.0.log says...can you paste in the pastebin?
[03:27] <taylor_> ok thanks
[03:27] <fletch33> evening all i have a major issue which i some how caused. if someone has a second could they look at this http://pastebin.com/563766 and tell me what they think. thanks
[03:27] <voice> when I do a debian install with the 2.4 kernel, everything is alright
[03:27] <mustard5> purpleidea, you used the pastebin before?
[03:27] <jsestri2> crimsun: well then i get this "amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument
[03:27] <jsestri2> "
[03:27] <Brumac> how come in the installation of ubuntu it does not give you the option to create a swap partition??
[03:28] <jsestri2> crimsun: i dont think that was worth a pastebin
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> Brumac,  it does - ive seen it several times.
[03:28] <dabaR> Brumac: sure does
[03:28] <voice> but when I do debian w/ 2.6 or Ubuntu, they both fail to read the partiton table correctly
[03:28] <Kube> Se7h, anyone? help please.
[03:28] <taylor_> i think it makes the swap auotmatticaly unless you use expert mode
[03:28] <mustard5> purpleidea, I suppose you would have to boot up in it to get the current log though. :)
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> Brumac,  true howeger - the fdisking part of the installer could use work.
[03:28] <taylor_> it did it for me
[03:28] <wazuppp> i] m sorry im having some problema installing ubuntu /never happend beford/ i install but get n to one place that says /configure apt  ... setting up primary repository/ and then dont finish to install ... just block ...
[03:28] <Mythril> I have an APC UPS with USB connector, is there any way to get ubuntu to recognize it?
[03:28] <Mordof> fr500, yes! it worked :D tyvm
[03:28] <Brumac> well I see primary and logical
[03:28] <Brumac> is logical the swap?
[03:28] <mustard5> purpleidea, are you on that system now? or on another system?
[03:28] <Brumac> "confused"
[03:28] <crimsun> jsestri2: is this with Dapper Flight 4 or Breezy?
[03:29] <Brumac> I was going step by step on the ubuntu site
[03:29] <jsestri2> crimsun breezy (5.10)
[03:29] <mateon> fletch33: try doing a sudo apt-get update, if you have any errors please paste them to the pastebin
[03:29] <Brumac> but nowhere in the partition disks menu do I see create partition or swap.
[03:29] <dabaR> pah
[03:29] <intelikey> Brumac the default install actually doesn't allow for installing without a swap      or at least it isn't easy to continue.
[03:29] <wazuppp> dont finish to install ... the screen dont go up ... `
[03:29] <Sohmc> I'm getting a very unusual error from thunderbird/firefox: /home/sohmc/usr/local/thunderbird-1.5/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8460 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[03:29] <Kube> Someone please help me
[03:29] <crimsun> jsestri2: then that error is a result of alsa-lib and alsa-driver version skew. Please use Dapper Flight 4. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-February/000050.html
[03:29] <fletch33> mateon, k i know i will have errors so i will post them for you thanks :)
[03:29] <Brumac> It created a logical partition of 8MB???
[03:29] <Brumac> wierd
[03:30] <LjL> crimsun: wow, are we at the point of advicing people to use dapper? :)
[03:30] <mateon> Kube: what was your problem again?
[03:30] <purpleidea> mustard5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8924
[03:30] <Kube> mateon, I Install it from the Install CD, it shows the welcome screen with the login/pass and after I login, nothing happens.. I can only move the mouse, no background no taskbar no nothing.. Just the mouse.
[03:30] <mustard5> purpleidea, having a look now...
[03:30] <jsestri2> crimsun: so i can't make breezy work with my oboard audio?
[03:30] <Brumac> is swap primary or logical???
[03:30] <Kube> mateon same with LiveCD.. can only move the mouse.
[03:30] <purpleidea> mustard5: yup, used it before, its currently booted with a non smp though
[03:30] <LjL> Brumac: it can be either
[03:31] <crimsun> jsestri2: you _can_, but you'll end up clobbering the conffiles, which will end up causing more headaches than they're worth.
[03:31] <dabaR> Kube: can you alt-ctrl-f1?
[03:31] <Brumac> which do I choose those?
[03:31] <intelikey> logical by default
[03:31] <Sohmc> I'm getting a very unusual error from thunderbird/firefox: /home/sohmc/usr/local/thunderbird-1.5/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8460 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[03:31] <Kube> dabaR I didn't try, but no I don't think so..
[03:31] <purpleidea> mustard5: i'm on a different system, the laptop is next to me
[03:31] <Brumac> looks like Ubuntu created an 8MB logical swap partition on its own
[03:31] <jsestri2> crimsun: so basically just start over with the new version, and hope everything works?
[03:31] <amphi> Brumac: how much ram do you have? 4MB? ;)
[03:32] <crimsun> jsestri2: or you can dist-upgrade straight. I think it's preferable to install Flight 4 clean.
[03:32] <LjL> jsestri2: i guess you could upgrade instead of starting over
[03:32] <Brumac> I see.... #6 logical 8.2MB.....underneath that I see pri/log 10.5 GB FREE SPACE
[03:32] <intelikey> Brumac how much free disk space did you have ?
[03:32] <cyphase> Flight 4 would be the same as Beta 4, right?
[03:32] <Kube> dabaR I tried clicking languages before logging in, a blank dialog opened and I couldnt close it... it's weird PLUS, my screen puts "No Support" I can remove that but why does it do it.. I have no idea. Please help me fix this.
[03:32] <fletch33> mateon,  here is what i get and it freezes at the end http://pastebin.com/563779
[03:32] <Brumac> amphi I have over 500MB of RAM
[03:32] <twodeko> howdy all
[03:32] <dabaR> do that, and come back here. in irssi. "screen"<enter>, "irssi"<enter>, "/server irc.freenode.net"<enter>, "/j #ubuntu"<enter>.
[03:32] <dabaR> pah
[03:32] <twodeko> can anyone answer a quick question about enlightenment
[03:32] <amphi> Brumac: heh
[03:32] <crimsun> cyphase: terminology difference. It's just a milestone.
[03:32] <Kube> dabaR It doesn't login to ubuntu..
[03:32] <Kube> It's not even loading files after I login
[03:33] <dabaR> Kube: it will in alt-ctrl-f1 maybe
[03:33] <Brumac> Any ideas?
[03:33] <Kube> let me try
[03:33] <amphi> twodeko: samsara is nirvana, and nirvana is samsara
[03:33] <dabaR> who knows what it is.
[03:33] <jsestri2> crimsun: ok, i mean i dont really have any data that needs backing up, so if the clean install is going to be simpler, i guess i'll just jam at that. Hopefully i wont have anymore hotplug issues, audio issues or gfx issues upon a new installation :-)
[03:33] <wazuppp> i] m sorry im having some problema installing ubuntu /never happend beford/ i install but get n to one place that says /configure apt  ... setting up primary repository/ and then dont finish to install ... just stop dont finish install ... 30 minutos there for 2 times ... someone having some problemas like this ....
[03:33] <twodeko> how can i get GTK themes within enlightenment
[03:33] <intelikey> Brumac there is an app in the repos that will create and use a swap file if and when needed.   you might want to install without swap and use that, just a thought....
[03:33] <twodeko> instead of the ugly ones that are default
[03:34] <twodeko> im using E17
[03:34] <mateon> fletch33: hmm, could you paste your sources.list as well?
[03:34] <twodeko> the cvs build
[03:34] <fletch33> mateon, k 1 sec
[03:34] <fletch33> mateon,  what i sthe command fo rthat again
[03:34] <amphi> Brumac: if you leave some unpartitioned space, you can always make a partition and mkswp it later
[03:34] <mateon> twodeko: how about asking in #enlightenment?
[03:34] <bimberi> wazuppp: I have had that and was able to prevent it by making sure there the PC was disconnected from the network during the install
[03:35] <twodeko> mateon, im in there now
[03:35] <bluefoxicy> is there anything like kplato for gnome?
[03:35] <twodeko> and no one seems to be responding
[03:35] <twodeko> just curious if anyone knew here
[03:35] <mateon> fletch33: cat /etc/apt/sources list
[03:35] <mateon> darn
[03:35] <mateon> fletch33: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <mustard5> purpleidea, does it load up if you use 'vesa' drivers?
[03:35] <fr500> Mordof np
[03:35] <bimberi> wazuppp: it might actually be downloading updated packages from the net, something that would take quite a while if the connection is slow (eg. modem)
[03:35] <fr500> lol he left already...
[03:36] <wazuppp> bimberi so you say to i disconnect the internet modem /the only network/ to i can finish to install the os is that ...
[03:36] <fletch33> mateon,  http://pastebin.com/563784
[03:36] <purpleidea> i could try, haven't tried. although, okay more detail:
[03:36] <purpleidea> originally it did what i told you, and recently i upgraded again using synaptic to a newer build version, and now on load to make it worse, it doesn't find /dev/sda5
[03:36] <Brumac> hallaluja I figured it out
[03:37] <Brumac> <~~~~ bone head
[03:37] <purpleidea> although my non smp kernel does. i'm so lost at what has been going on. like i said, kernel isnt my strong point
[03:37] <fletch33> mateon,  i really appreciate your help with this becuse i have been stuck. i dont know what i might have done
[03:37] <bimberi> wazuppp: running the install with no connection worked for me - ymmv
[03:37] <joeljkp> i need to do some batch operations on a directory tree of images
[03:37] <joeljkp> resize, rotate some
[03:37] <joeljkp> any suggestions?
[03:38] <mustard5> purpleidea, a newer build of the smp kernel you mean?
[03:38] <wazuppp> bimberi well my ethernet modem is the only network i have install here .... but probably you right i think it is because i use on name.something and the os probably think i want to install something else some domain ... yes i understand you right very thanks ... you save to me my night ... >p belessed be
[03:38] <wazuppp> gona try
[03:38] <mateon> joeljkp: imagemagick and a shell script perhaps?
[03:38] <purpleidea> mustard5: yes.
[03:38] <keithhhhhhhhh> test
[03:38] <mustard5> purpleidea, so the old version of the smp kernel worked fine?
[03:38] <dabaR> fletch33: make it like on paste.ubuntu-nl.org under the name src.list
[03:38] <joeljkp> mateon: yeah, i was hoping for an app i could just use though
[03:38] <colm> what's the process for suggesting software for ubuntu?  My game - anagramarama - is a good fit for edubuntu I'd imagine...  just email the dev list?  or is there perhaps a website
[03:38] <beerockxs> I'm using Xinerama with 2 screens, how can I set on which screen my apps start by default?
[03:38] <purpleidea> mustard5: no, still didn't work, but at least it loaded X, and then died before gdm could load. now it doesn't even go to X.
[03:39] <mustard5> purpleidea, k
[03:39] <intelikey> imagrants talk so funny.
[03:39] <mustard5> purpleidea, I would be curious if 'vesa' loaded under the smp kernel...
[03:39] <sinaduel> what is the package name for  the build essentials
[03:39] <sinaduel> ??
[03:39] <fletch33> dabaR, k
[03:39] <mustard5> purpleidea, its not ideal of course :)
[03:39] <bimberi> sinaduel: build-essential   (no s at the end)
[03:40] <crimsun> colm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[03:40] <intelikey> things like    c:\    and  'but wheres the icon'   lol
[03:40] <crimsun> colm: click on "getting new or updated.."
[03:40] <dabaR> joeljkp: right click there is a good program there.
[03:40] <purpleidea> mustard5: whatever you could suggest that might work, i'm just not even sure how to debug it, or even then make it work
[03:40] <mustard5> purpleidea, I'm not that sure myself really ;)
[03:40] <keithhhhhhhhh> is there any easy way for me to run my atheros wifi g card in my notebook?
[03:40] <fletch33> dabaR,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8925
[03:40] <colm> crimsun, many thx.  i was googling away for that!
[03:40] <intelikey> sinaduel build-essentia
[03:41] <intelikey> l
[03:41] <purpleidea> mustard5: s'okay, whatever you can suggest might help, any ideas?
[03:41] <dabaR> fletch33: I told you, make it like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8922
[03:41] <mustard5> purpleidea, just that I'd be curious if 'vesa' drivers loaded ok...
[03:41] <mustard5> purpleidea, maybe its an issue with nvidia drivers
[03:42] <Kube> dabaR, I can't
[03:42] <mustard5> purpleidea, if it doesnt load under 'vesa' either, I would suspect its something different
[03:42] <purpleidea> mustard5: gotcha, okay, um how would i go about getting those to load.
[03:42] <purpleidea> well it might be, i don't know how i would test it though, um maybe let me play a sec.
[03:42] <purpleidea> fc4 worked find
[03:42] <purpleidea> fine*
[03:42] <purpleidea> at least or smp anyways
[03:42] <Kube> dabaR, I can see the console, but I can't use the internet from there, I need to login through a webpage first so I could have connectivity
[03:42] <fletch33> dabaR, i dont know what i did wrong
[03:42] <zebraFusion> How can I check the version of GTK?
[03:42] <zebraFusion> To see what themes are compatable
[03:42] <mustard5> purpleidea, might be good to stick with fc4 then :)  What works is always good :D
[03:43] <dabaR> fletch33: make it like that page, and then sudo aptitude update
[03:43] <mustard5> purpleidea, it would be interesting to find out what it is though
[03:43] <dabaR> then sudo aptitude -f install&&sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:43] <filloy> hey there !!
[03:43] <purpleidea> mustard5: well, that part is true, except a lot of other stuff didn't work, and has much better support in ubuntu. plus, i've been meaning to hit this up.
[03:43] <purpleidea> mustard5: i'm sure a lot of people would like to know :D
[03:44] <mustard5> purpleidea, yep :)
[03:44] <intelikey> zebraFusion dpkg -l | grep -ie'gtk'
[03:44] <filloy> anyone tried the new Xgl thingy ???
[03:44] <fletch33> dabaR,  i am sorry but i am not familiar with what you are talking about
[03:44] <Kube> dabaR any ideas?
[03:44] <beerockxs> I'm using Xinerama with 2 screens, how can I set on which screen my apps start by default?
[03:44] <mustard5> purpleidea, k..well you would need to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <dabaR> ya, I have an idea, get me some milk
[03:44] <axs> the daper will be carrying the xgl thingy
[03:44] <iceman> crappp.... three installs in 2 freaking days damit
[03:44] <purpleidea> mustard5: i'm going to try and play with the vesa business, do you know what kernel param i should put in? if you hear anything, maybe pass out the purpleidea at gmail dot com?
[03:45] <dabaR> axs: it may or may not work
[03:45] <mustard5> purpleidea, and pick defaults for everything, but change to 'vesa' when you get to drivers
[03:45] <fletch33> mateon,  any suggestions
[03:45] <filloy> axs: but its released until ....june ?
[03:45] <mustard5> purpleidea, k..got the email address
[03:45] <Kube> dabaR I am serious man, I really need ubuntu on my system.
[03:45] <purpleidea> mustard5: " pick defaults " ?
[03:45] <axs> be patient guys
[03:45] <chameleon> ok dudes just got this puppy insalled now to configure it
[03:45] <bur[n] er> filloy: april
[03:45] <fletch33> dabaR, is what i posted not going to work
[03:46] <mateon> fletch33: hmm, you got a lot of exotic reps there. I would start by putting a # in the lines starting with ftp://ftp.free.fr
[03:46] <paxmaster_> i have complie mplayer and it gives error about the font
[03:46] <iceman> god ... help on getting wine up... running diablo II anyone
[03:46] <chameleon> command for sound guys?
[03:46] <fletch33> mateon,  k
[03:46] <axs> or may be that i recently installed breezy...
[03:46] <mateon> fletch33: the, apt-get update
[03:46] <mateon> then
[03:46] <filloy> bur[n] er: uhmm, ok...thanx :D but is there a way to install Xgl in breezy ?
[03:46] <mustard5> purpleidea, well the that command will reconfigure your xorg.conf..so it asks a lot more questions than just what video drivers you want to use...for most selections that default answer already selected is the right one to choose
[03:46] <TokenBad> anyone here ever setup icecast2?
[03:46] <paxmaster_> can some one tell me which directory to install the font for mplyer
 command for sound guys? <--- ?   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp     ???
[03:46] <crimsun> chameleon: ...that's a bit vague, no?
[03:46] <bur[n] er> filloy: no... and it's very buggy yet in dapper...  xgl is very experimental
[03:47] <mustard5> purpleidea, you only want to change from 'nvidia' or 'nv' to 'vesa'
[03:47] <Kube> intelikey can you help me ?
[03:47] <wastrel> paxmaster:  you can install that from apt
[03:47] <dabaR> fletch33: open a terminal, run "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and enter yuor pwd. then change what is in there to whats on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8922. Save, close gedit, run "sudo aptitude update&&sudo aptitude -f install&& sudo aptitude dist-upgrade". paste any errors on paste.ubuntu.nl.org
[03:47] <intelikey> Kube what with ?
[03:47] <purpleidea> mustard5: got that, i mean how do i run that?? change what where?
[03:47] <aroman> hi
[03:47] <mateon> intelikey: isn't cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp better ?
[03:47] <mustard5> purpleidea, you would need a command line I suppose....but its hanging ..hmmmm
[03:47] <aroman> where would it be proper to ask a question about dapper flight 4?
[03:47] <mustard5> purpleidea, you can get a command line?
[03:47] <fletch33> dabaR,  ooh got it thanks a lot :)
[03:47] <filloy> bur[n] er: well, thanx :) i hope it gets stable for the next ubuntu release :)
[03:47] <crimsun> aroman: here.
[03:47] <paxmaster_> wastrel: can some you tell me the package name
[03:48] <bur[n] er> dabaR: i heard sudo + gtk app does bad things... gksudo is advised :)
[03:48] <purpleidea> mustard5: not from an smp boot
[03:48] <purpleidea> single processor boots fine
[03:48] <bur[n] er> filloy: we'll find out come april
[03:48] <intelikey> mateon na it finishes to quickly
[03:48] <aroman> ok
[03:48] <Kube> I can't use the operating system, after I log-in from the welcome screen everything stops and I can only use the mouse. nothing else, files don't even load.
[03:48] <mustard5> purpleidea, I guess that would be good enough..they both use the same xorg.conf
[03:48] <dabaR> crimsun: is there going to be out of the box support for mp3 soon?
[03:48] <Ubeguy> _jason, what do i install for termcap?
[03:48] <aroman> then, I am trying to make ubuntu *not* load a set of modules at boot
[03:48] <aroman> specifically the firewire-related modules
[03:48] <Ubeguy> _jason, configure: error: termcap support not found
[03:48] <crimsun> dabaR: I'm not in a position to answer, though my inclination is, "no."
[03:48] <rewt_> Anyone have any luck getting wine in 64 bit?
[03:49] <bur[n] er> dabaR: never due to licensing afaik
[03:49] <rewt_> Only thing I can fnd is 32 bit.
[03:49] <rewt_> -.-
[03:49] <aroman> So, I tried /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, placed them there according to the syntax, but upon a reboot the modules are still there. Any ideas?
[03:49] <intelikey> kube right click   or  middle click doesn't give a menu ?
[03:49] <filloy> uhmm, btw, is there a way to make execute some commands at startup, like....modprobe ndiswrapper, so my wireless lan gets enabled ??
[03:49] <mateon> intelikey: /dev/input/mice then
[03:49] <Kube> intelikey nop, nothing
[03:49] <bur[n] er> filloy: add that to /etc/modules
[03:49] <crimsun> filloy: you can use the pre-up directive of interfaces(5)
[03:49] <Ubeguy> Can anyone please tell me what to apt-get for Termcap?
[03:50] <intelikey> mateon if you filter through 'od'  maybe  :)
[03:50] <Kube> loading stops instantly after I login.. nothing happens only the mouse can be moved.
[03:50] <Kube> and for some reason my screen prints "No Support" <- but that can be removed.
[03:50] <crimsun> Ubeguy: you have "termcap" already. Are you trying to compile something that needs its headers?
[03:50] <rewt_> Im guessing that is a no, aye?
[03:50] <wastrel> Ubeguy:   apt-cache search...   looks like termcap-compat
[03:50] <Ubeguy> yes i guess so
[03:50] <purpleidea> mustard5: i'm reinstalling the kernels as well as an older smp one that i found, and then i'll boot and see what the logs say
[03:51] <aroman> anyone?
[03:51] <mustard5> purpleidea, k
[03:51] <Ubeguy> i installed termcap-compat
[03:51] <filloy> thanx bur[n] er, the module is now added...:) ill reboot to see if it works :)
[03:51] <aroman> what is the proper way to blacklist a module in dapper?
[03:51] <Kube> intelikey, and in the login scree, before I login. I clicked Languages it showed a blank dialog with no "X" "Close" or any other uttons. No buttons no text at all.. and it cannot  be closed.
[03:52] <crimsun> aroman: add its name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-foo
[03:52] <aroman> crimsun, I added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:52] <crimsun> aroman: what are you trying to blacklist?
[03:52] <aroman> crimsun, ieee1394 ohci1394 eth1394 (already blacklisted) and sbp2
[03:53] <crimsun> aroman: do you have a firewire controller?
[03:53] <aroman> crimsun, firewire keeps my network from working... weird issue, I think it is my laptop's acpi implementation, causing troubles in non-windpipe OSes
[03:53] <aroman> crimsun, yes, but I don't want drivers to be loaded for it
[03:53] <intelikey> Kube maybe use the console and reconfigure the x server.     " [crtl]  [alt]  [f2]  "  and login then  do " sufo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "   answer all the questions carefully and correctly. (don't chhose to set the monitor size in inches)   then  " [ctrl]  [alt]  [f7]   "  " [ctrl]  [alt]  [backspace]  "  to reset x and test the new configuration....
[03:53] <Arafangi1n> aroman: I have never had to blacklist modules, and I have run quite a few machines, from a very old redhat server to debian, (including a sarge/sid mixed debian), ubuntu, and a "linuxfromscratch" system.
[03:54] <intelikey> Kube take notes   ^
[03:54] <beerockxs> I'm using Xinerama with 2 screens, how can I set on which screen my apps start by default?
[03:54] <intelikey> errr s/sufo/sudo/ ^
[03:54] <Arafangi1n> aroman: My laptop currently runs firewire, and it's the only laptop that has it. I have, however, not had the opportunity to actually use the firewire.
[03:54] <fletch33> dabaR,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8926
[03:54] <fletch33> dabaR,  still have errors
[03:54] <Arafangi1n> Err, only *machine* that has firewire that i own.
[03:55] <aroman> Arafangi1n, believe me... I've had to do this on every distro since I bought it last summer. I know this is the problem, and I know that's the way to fix it... It just doesn't seem to work as I thought it would in dapper...
[03:55] <aroman> is there another place where modules get loaded from?
[03:55] <Ubeguy> please help, configure: error: termcap support not found
[03:55] <Ubeguy> . Anyone know?
[03:55] <Arafangi1n> aroman: I find this intruging. Does the problem manifest only when you use the firewire?
[03:55] <Kube> intelikey can I do that with Live CD?
[03:56] <Arafangi1n> aroman: On debian systems, I generally only use modconf
[03:56] <crimsun> aroman: eth1394 is the culprit?
[03:56] <mateon> Kube: if you can't ctrl-alt-f2 try booting in the rescue mode and try doing what intelikey told you
[03:56] <aroman> crimsun, no, I believe it is ieee1394
[03:56] <Arafangi1n> aroman: btw, what kernel do you run?
[03:56] <Ubeguy> anyone going to help me?
[03:56] <mateon> fletch33: I have no idea why would you still have errors
[03:56] <Kube> mateon can i do this with LiveCD? I dont want to format again..
[03:56] <intelikey> in a chroot environment Kube yes you can set the server up but you can't test it from there.     or not easily
[03:56] <aroman> Arafangi1n, 2.6.15-15-386
[03:56] <purpleidea> mustard5: the problem i told you about is: right after grub it goes "uncompressing linux ... ok.. etc" and then Segmentation fault.
[03:56] <purpleidea> ALERT! /dev/sda5 does not exist.
[03:56] <fletch33> mateon,  yeah i re-wrote my whole sources list
[03:57] <aroman> Arafangi1n, the problem manifests when I load ieee1394 module
[03:57] <Arafangi1n> aroman: Well, using outdated kernels can't be a problem there! :)
[03:57] <purpleidea> but it boosts fine from non smp
[03:57] <aroman> Arafangi1n, :)
[03:57] <aroman> Arafangi1n, running dapper drake flight 4 (just installed today)
[03:57] <mustard5> purpleidea, this is booting from what kernel?
[03:57] <crimsun> aroman: I think what you want to test first is passing ignore_drivers=1 to modprobe ieee1394
[03:57] <intelikey> Kube easier to work on your system form within your system.
[03:57] <Kube> intelikey are you saying that I need to format again and re-install Ubuntu again so I could try what you have given me ?
[03:57] <mustard5> purpleidea, the old smp or the new smp?
[03:57] <spyder> how to install .deb files without using terminal?
[03:57] <aroman> crimsun, can you please explain what that will do, and how I can pass that option to modprobe?
[03:57] <purpleidea> mustard5: either. anything SMP. everything non-smp works.
[03:58] <Arafangi1n> aroman: Would you be able to do me a favour and send me an email telling me how you sorted this out? It's possible that I'll have the same issue when I attempt to use firewire on my laptop.
[03:58] <intelikey> Kube are you saying that ubuntu is no longer installed ?
[03:58] <wastrel> hi
[03:58] <purpleidea> mustard5: although on a side note, i don't know what changed exactly b/c it used to sort of boot into x, as i told you before.
[03:58] <Arafangi1n> aroman: /win 6
[03:58] <crimsun> aroman: echo "options ieee1394 ignore_drivers=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ieee1394
[03:58] <Kube> intelikey of course not.. I can't connect to the internet with ubuntu!
[03:58] <mustard5> purpleidea, I notice your version of X seems to be a newer version?
[03:58] <crimsun> aroman: a description can be found using modinfo ieee1394
[03:58] <Kube> intelikey i connect by logging on from a website!
[03:59] <purpleidea> mustard5: i'm running dapper flight 3
[03:59] <crimsun> Ubeguy: what are you trying to compile?
[03:59] <mustard5> purpleidea, ah ok.
[03:59] <mustard5> purpleidea, I wonder whether that makes life more complicated :)
[04:00] <mustard5> purpleidea, trying to isolate something that could be related to a problem in Dapper
[04:00] <intelikey> Kube are you saying that ubuntu is no longer installed ?  because if you are, then no i'm not saying to reinstall it at all.       (installed generally means that the software is on the hdd in the expanded and usable format, whether or not it is "running")
[04:00] <purpleidea> mustard5: shiny new hardware makes life complicated :(
[04:00] <mustard5> purpleidea, yeah
[04:00] <Ubeguy> asterisk
[04:00] <fletch33> dabaR, mateon, i am going to restart :)
[04:00] <Ubeguy> crimsun, asterisk
[04:00] <aroman> crimsun, ok, done, rebooting
[04:00] <mustard5> purpleidea, so it was booting from smp, but post your new installation its failing..is that right?
[04:01] <crimsun> Ubeguy: does the version in universe not work?
[04:01] <LjL> compiling asterisk? brr
[04:01] <aroman> crimsun, what method does dapper use for hardware auto-detection. I notice they've gotten rid of hotplug?
[04:01] <phantasmoholic> Anyone using a second monitor on a radeon mobility 9000 able to use xinerama to get extended desktop able to help me
[04:01] <mustard5> purpleidea, what device is /dev/sda5?
[04:01] <crimsun> aroman: udev.
[04:01] <Ubeguy> oh there is one?
[04:01] <phantasmoholic> Heres my xorg.conf
[04:01] <phantasmoholic> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/L7sPU247.html
[04:01] <aroman> crimsun, really? I didn't know udev had that capability...
[04:01] <Kube> intelikey ubuntu is not on my system anymore..
[04:01] <aroman> crimsun, thought udev was just like a devfs replacement...
[04:01] <purpleidea> mustard5: yeah i suppose you could say so.
[04:01] <purpleidea> /dev/sda is my serial ata harddrive, and the 5 is the partition where ubuntu is
[04:02] <crimsun> aroman: udev+Linux 2.6.15's netlink.
[04:02] <Arafangi1n> aroman: It's much more than a devfs replacement.
[04:02] <intelikey> kube   i can't help you with what you don't have !
[04:02] <mustard5> purpleidea, pretty serious that it can't even find the drive...
[04:02] <Kube> intelikey by the way the screen doesnt give me "No Support" when I use the 64bit version..
[04:02] <aroman> crimsun, netlink? ^_^ sorry, not too up-to-date with latest kernel features
[04:02] <crimsun> !info asterisk
[04:02] <intelikey> Kube  that's nice.
[04:02] <Arafangi1n> aroman: Not many people know udev well yet.
[04:02] <ubotu> asterisk: (open source Private Branch Exchange (PBX)), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.0.9.dfsg-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1061 kB, Installed size: 2992 kB
[04:02] <crimsun> Ubeguy: ^
[04:02] <purpleidea> mustard5: actually yeah. in fact, coming to you live, what the f is going on... its acting up now/.
[04:03] <aroman> crimsun, that didn't do the trick, I'm afraid :(
[04:03] <Kube> intelikey, do you have any other suggestions? i don't think the problem is with X
[04:03] <Kube> I have a feeling that it's because of the hardware or something. :/
[04:03] <aroman> now
[04:03] <aroman> hold on just a minute
[04:03] <intelikey> can't fix software that doesn't exist Kube
[04:03] <LjL> Ubeguy: you should probably always search the reps before venturing to install something manually... you'll save a ton of trouble!
[04:03] <mateon> anyone know why would "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" show up when apt-get updating? The file which is involved (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz) is not broken, but maybe the local copy is... this concerns fletch33's problem
[04:04] <jetscreamer> udev + >= 2.6.14 or so seem to like to move hda to hde and vice-versa, ymmv with sd hth
[04:04] <aroman> I see that sk98lin was removed in favour of this.. sky2 driver? Not sure if that supports my laptop's Marvell Yukon?
[04:04] <beerockxs> I'm using Xinerama with 2 screens, how can I set on which screen my apps start by default?
[04:04] <Kube> intelikey it does .. I can re-install ! .. I just need to know all the possibilities so I can try them all
[04:04] <Ubeguy> thnx
[04:04] <Arafangi1n> jetscreamer: By default? That's highly unusual.
[04:04] <phantasmoholic> i never could get a marvell yukon working
[04:04] <purpleidea> mustard5: nothing is working now, after the last kernel reinstall. what the h*ll!
[04:04] <LjL> jetscreamer: move hda to hde?! that doesn't sound like a nice feature!
[04:04] <intelikey> kube the possabilities are endless.... we don't know them all.
[04:04] <jetscreamer> Arafangi1n: it's actually variable, controlled by the was the modules are created/made in the initrd... or so....
[04:05] <jetscreamer> s/was/way/
[04:05] <Kube> intelikey most common are?
[04:05] <mustard5> purpleidea, non-smp not loading either?
[04:05] <Arafangi1n> jetscreamer: I suppose it could be loading it twice, and picking up where it left?
[04:05] <purpleidea> mustard5: well at the moment attempting to boot in "recovery mode"
[04:05] <Arafangi1n> jetscreamer: Still, I find that very unusual!
[04:05] <mustard5> purpleidea, k
[04:05] <jetscreamer> Arafangi1n: i just threw that out in hopes it 'might' apply to your situation... it did for mine.
[04:06] <intelikey> Kube use the 32 bit version and get help as needed.   my sujestion to you.  and it's free.     next.
[04:06] <jetscreamer> yeah very weird, and i'm not the only one.
[04:06] <Kube> intelikey I used both..
[04:06] <jetscreamer> add in controller cards seem to be affected
[04:06] <Kube> intelikey non works
[04:06] <dooglus> aroman: did you try the torrent?
[04:06] <aroman> dooglus, eh?
[04:06] <aroman> dooglus, what do you mean the torrent? for what?
[04:07] <purpleidea> mustard5: well now were running. any logs you'd like to see?
[04:07] <dooglus> aroman: sorry.  I was replying to something you said 10 hours ago...
[04:07] <dooglus> aroman: I had paged up in irssi and it hadn't scrolled since...
[04:07] <jetscreamer> you can recreate your initrd, and have some rules in /etc/mkinitrdfs(or so) and use the -t and -u switches (iirc)
[04:07] <aroman> dooglus, ah... yes I did use the torrent and it was FAST
[04:07] <mustard5> purpleidea, still curious whether it will load with 'vesa' :)
[04:07] <jetscreamer> all i know hth
[04:07] <dooglus> aroman: you said the flight 4 download was slow...  :)
[04:07] <iceman> damit 3 freaking installs in two days ...
[04:07] <purpleidea> mustard5: i haven't forgotten.
[04:08] <LjL> i usually just hog the mirrors and multi-download from a couple of them ;)
[04:08] <iceman> crash .. crash ... crap
[04:08] <aroman> dooglus, yes, from a http mirror... will have to boot back to windows and seed some more, unfortunately the excitement was too high for seeding :P
[04:08] <jetscreamer> heh. i went through 2 weeks of installing trying to fix.
[04:08] <mustard5> purpleidea, when it hangs...can you alt + ctrl + f1?
[04:08] <Arafangion> Well, usually.
[04:08] <dooglus> aroman: I'm sure there are enough seeds to keep it fast enough.
[04:08] <fletch33> dabaR, mateon, ok i restarted and here is my error on my apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8928
[04:09] <purpleidea> mustard5: yes, and also ctrolalt 8 but you just see the bootup stuff
[04:09] <LjL> Arafangion: depends on what your max speed is as well, i suppose
[04:09] <dooglus> aroman: and anyway, can't you seed it from ubuntu?
[04:09] <mateon> 28
[04:09] <mateon> 04:08 -!- mahangu_ [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu]  has joined #ubuntu
[04:09] <purpleidea> mustard5: no shell
[04:09] <mustard5> purpleidea, no login? bummer
[04:09] <intelikey> is there a good reason i can't use a binarry kernel from another distro and do away with my initrd.img ?
[04:09] <aroman> dooglus, I could... if my networking would work, which is what I'm working on...
[04:09] <dooglus> aroman: I see.
[04:09] <aroman> :)
[04:09] <purpleidea> i can get to a root shell in recovery though.
[04:09] <intelikey> glibc or sanything ?
[04:09] <mustard5> purpleidea, its not making it easy is it :)
[04:09] <Arafangion> LjL: Currently on a 1.5Mb/s connection.  Most of my downloads appear to be greater than 1Mb/s
[04:09] <aroman> so, any list of what the sky2 driver supports? what devices, specifically?
[04:10] <LjL> Arafangion: is that bits or bytes?
[04:10] <Arafangion> LjL: Bits
[04:10] <amphi> intelikey: just build your own without initrd
[04:10] <purpleidea> mustard5: well i hope to learn from the challenge, i want to make it work dammit, but i want to know why!
[04:10] <Arafangion> LjL: Nearly the fastest a non-business consumer can expect in Australia.
[04:10] <LjL> Arafangion: oh. well, i'm on a 1 mega*byte* per second connection, so it can be kind of harder to reach full speed ;)
[04:10] <intelikey> amphi ever dl the source over dialup ?
[04:10] <mateon> fletch33: well, the same thing it seems. try doing a apt-get clean and then apt-get update
[04:11] <amphi> intelikey: many times
[04:11] <Arafangion> LjL: Though with ADSL2, it could change.
[04:11] <LjL> Arafangion: really? that's quite slow
[04:11] <mustard5> purpleidea, I wonder if this is something where compiling your own kernel would be appropriate...I have no idea really
[04:11] <intelikey> well i'd rather not.
[04:11] <LjL> Arafangion: well even with ADSL1, here people go up to 6 megs or so, maybe more
[04:11] <purpleidea> what would i do in the shell to test vesa?
[04:11] <mustard5> purpleidea, I guess you need to know what your compiling into your new kernel to even start down that track
[04:11] <LjL> Arafangion: (though i suppose they do need to be very near to the phone central)
[04:11] <Arafangion> LjL: Australia is characterised by a relatively low population in rural areas.
[04:12] <tatters> could someone look at my error message and tell me if what happening? im running kdissert  --->>>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8929
[04:12] <Jormundgand> Why does pressing Print Screen stop working if you replace Metacity with KWin?
[04:12] <mustard5> purpleidea, well you can reconfigure xorg.conf from your non-smp boot...as they both use the same file I would think
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> Jormundgand,  my guess it its a keybinding feature of metacity
[04:12] <colm> right 3:10am on a sunday night...   yawwwn time for bed... cya folks
[04:12] <purpleidea> mustard5: yeah, and some of the hardware isn't even supported in linux yet, ie: 3945abg wireless
[04:12] <mustard5> purpleidea, so reconfiguring from non-smp should affect the driver choice on the smp kernel
[04:12] <eauxnguyen> any ideas on how to make my wireless connection persistent? I have to enter the hidden ssid each time i log in.
[04:12] <LjL> Arafangion: yeah, well, rural areas here are already very lucky if they can get any kind of ADSL
[04:13] <mateon> fletch33: are you still there? any luck?
[04:13] <Arafangion> LjL: In conjunction with a telco monopoly, broadband rollouts are extremely expensive.
[04:13] <purpleidea> mustard5: you want me to change something in /etc/X11/xorg.cong ?
[04:13] <intelikey> eauxnguyen maybe add a line in the xinetd
[04:13] <purpleidea> conf*
[04:14] <Jormundgand> Dr_Willis: You wouldn't know how KDE does it so I can bring back the functionality?
[04:14] <tatters> eau have u added your setting to /network/interfaces.conf?
[04:14] <aroman> I'll be back
[04:14] <mustard5> purpleidea, yeah..you could manually set it to 'vesa' instead of 'nv' or 'nvidia' I suppose
[04:14] <Arafangion> LjL: People are very lucky to get adsl at all in rural areas here also, however *towns* can.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Jormundgand,  nope. theres a taskbarapplet that can do screen shots also.
[04:14] <LjL> Arafangion: we're out of a monopoly here as well, but now there are a few providers (though most still rent the original monopolist's lines)
[04:14] <Arafangion> LjL: Where do you live?
[04:14] <LjL> Arafangion: milan, italy
[04:14] <sean__> dabaR,  sorry my irc froze here it is again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8928
[04:14] <mustard5> purpleidea, personally I would use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to do it
[04:14] <purpleidea> that's fine, but kernel doesn't even boot that far enought to load that file
[04:14] <Arafangion> LjL: I want to visit the place :)
[04:15] <mahangu_> mateon, you rang?
[04:15] <Arafangion> LjL: Visit, stay over for a week, drink the coffee, eat the food, and drink the wine :)
[04:15] <mateon> mahangu_: huh?
[04:15] <LjL> Arafangion: do visit italy - i don't suggest visiting milan though, unless you end up with a lot of spare time for some reason ;)
[04:15] <RollerC> I could use some help... new here though, can anyone direct me to who I should speak to?
[04:15] <Arafangion> LjL: A cousin of mine owns a place there, so it shouldn't be that expensive. :)
[04:15] <LjL> RollerC: just ask
[04:16] <mustard5> purpleidea, is it booting as far as the hanging thing before gdm still?
[04:16] <tatters> could someone look at my error message and tell me if what happening? im running kdissert  --->>>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8929
[04:16] <Arafangion> LjL: I'm obsessed with good coffee.
[04:16] <LjL> Arafangion: i wasn't thinking about "expensive", i was thinking about "ugly" :) anyway, suppose we better stop this, we're as off topic as we can get =)
[04:16] <purpleidea> mustard5: nope still stuck at sda5 error
[04:16] <mustard5> purpleidea, ah ok...
[04:17] <aroman> back
[04:17] <Arafangion> LjL: Brief digressions are healthy.
[04:17] <LjL> Arafangion: not if s*veas is around, trust me :)
[04:17] <mahangu_> mateon, mateon 04:08 -!- mahangu_ [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu]  has joined #ubuntu
[04:17] <mustard5> purpleidea, non-smp kernel the same?
[04:17] <iceman> !nvidia
[04:17] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:17] <RollerC> Ok, thanks! I just installed ubuntu and I get this at the loading screen. begin: running /scripts/local tops           done              alert! /dev/hdci does not exist. Dropping to a shell                /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control is off
[04:17] <tatters> the application seems to open fine after all that error msg
[04:18] <Arafangion> LjL: Heh :)  I should head of to uni anyway.
[04:18] <mustard5> purpleidea, just curious whether its affecting both now
[04:18] <LjL> bimberi: :-
[04:18] <purpleidea> um, not exactly. recovery more working, and regular mode freezing during some hardware detection more
[04:18] <intelikey> tatters did you chown your home with sudo ?
[04:18] <mateon> mahangu_: oops, sorry. unintended paste :-)
[04:18] <mahangu_> alrighty :)
[04:18] <Arafangion> LjL: Some Software/Engineering course.  I'm learning... html this semester (AMonsgt other subjects)
[04:18] <tatters> hmm nope dont think so
[04:18] <mustard5> purpleidea, hmmm..
[04:19] <LjL> Arafangion: i had database this semester, we don't have an html course, though the db course did have a limited web-related part
[04:19] <LjL> bye
[04:19] <mustard5> purpleidea, I can't think what would make that happen...
[04:19] <mustard5> purpleidea, my first thoughts are a hardware issue of some kind
[04:19] <beerockxs> I'm using Xinerama with 2 screens, how can I set on which screen my apps start by default?
[04:19] <mustard5> purpleidea, but it was working not long ago
[04:19] <purpleidea> mustard5: me neither :(
[04:19] <purpleidea> okay maybe i'll try back later...
[04:19] <purpleidea> yeah, naw i'm thinking the hardware is working fine
[04:19] <intelikey> tatters maybe "sudo chown root -R /var/tmp/"    and try again ?
[04:19] <tatters> ive chmod a folder on my usb drive  but not chown anything
[04:20] <Brumac> ack I just installed ubuntu but cannot log in as root
[04:20] <mustard5> purpleidea, k...put it to bed and try again another day :)
[04:20] <TokenBad> anyone here ever setup icecast2 in ubuntu?
[04:20] <mateon> !tell Brumac about root
[04:20] <mustard5> purpleidea, good luck with it anyway
[04:20] <tatters> well i will give it a shot
[04:20] <purpleidea> mustard5: i guess so, thanks for your help anyways, if you think of something, let me know, cheers!
[04:20] <RollerC> repost:  I just installed ubuntu and I get this at the loading screen. begin: running /scripts/local tops           done                    alert! /dev/hdci does not exist. Dropping to a shell                /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control is off
[04:20] <mustard5> purple will do
[04:21] <beerockxs> !tell beerockxs about root
[04:21] <purpleidea> rollerC: what gives that error! i get that for /dev/sda5 when it does exist with a different kernel
[04:22] <eauxnguyen> Thanks tatters and intelikey. I found the ssid in /etc/network/interfaces, is xinetd in X11? I can't recall where it is
[04:22] <RollerC> purpleidea:I dont know, I just installed ubuntu and loaded it up, it comes up during the kernel load
[04:22] <purpleidea> rollerC: okay thanks.
[04:22] <purpleidea> me too, no idea why :(
[04:23] <dlmmlb> when i run tar -zxf BeepMeidaLibrary-0.12.tar.gz, i got this message: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format. tar: child returned status 1 tar: error exit delayed from previous errors. what's wrong?
[04:23] <RacerX> Hello
[04:24] <kbrosnan> hello RacerX
[04:24] <RollerC> Is there anyone who can help me here?
[04:24] <sean__> mateon, i eliminated a lot of the errors with that fix but i have just this left. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8930
[04:25] <ipfw> ubuntu is kinda gay.. How do I get it to install the darn devel tools ?
[04:25] <intelikey>  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo <--- the link that !root sends is not accessable via links.
[04:26] <sean__> testing
[04:26] <RollerC> is there anyone here who can help me?
[04:26] <jodanlime> synaptic
[04:26] <jodanlime> RollerC, whats wrong?
[04:26] <crimsun> ipfw: you install build-essential and add whatever else you need.
[04:26] <RollerC>  I just installed ubuntu and I get this at the loading screen. begin: running /scripts/local tops           done                    alert! /dev/hdci does not exist. Dropping to a shell                /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control is off
[04:26] <RacerX> ipfw: Judging by your nick, you a FBSD person?
[04:26] <RollerC> jodanlime: Actually, I get it during the kernel load
[04:27] <intelikey> kernel or init ?
[04:27] <jodanlime> RollerC, hmmm, i would just try to install it again, i cant really help much, sorry
[04:27] <ipfw> RacerX: I've ran a bit of everything over the years... But yeah, was on a fbsd kick when I came up with ipfw :)
[04:27] <RollerC> jodanlime: thanks, I'll try that
[04:27] <ipfw> crimsun: how so I get access to this build-essential .. just su root and apt-get it ?
[04:27] <RollerC> bbl if that doesn't work
[04:28] <crimsun> ipfw: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:28] <RacerX> ipfw: *nod*
[04:28] <intelikey> ipfw sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:28] <tatters> intelikey: that cut out 90% of error msg when run im left with -->> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8931
[04:28] <eauxnguyen> intelikey -> xinetd.d is supposed to be in the \etc dir? I don't see it
[04:29] <ipfw> crimsun, intelikey : I don't have to su, the first thing I did was activate root (for a reason) ...
[04:29] <crimsun> ipfw: don't be polemic for argument's sake. We assume you're intelligent enough to ignore the sudo part if you know what you're doing.
[04:29] <intelikey> tatters so   sudo chown root -R /tmp/
[04:30] <C_J_Pro> Jared, privmsg me
[04:30] <wastrel> intelikey:  lynx works ...
[04:30] <intelikey> eauxnguyen in /etc/X11/ some place iirc   use find or slocate to find it.     find /etc -name xinet
[04:30] <Jared|here> I am fucking GOD!
[04:31] <intelikey> wastrel yes i tested it too.
[04:31] <tatters> well yah that sorted it no idea Y but your a freaking god thnx :)
[04:31] <intelikey> wastrel it is an ssl issue with links
[04:31] <ipfw> crimsun, fair enough ;)
[04:32] <tatters> BTW: was the error msg anything to be concerned with would it have caused me problem  in long run?
[04:32] <benplaut> OK, now i'm in dapper again :P
[04:32] <intelikey> tatters no probably not, just a minor security issue
[04:32] <lus|wats> ?? is dapper out already?
[04:32] <God|in> what the hell are we talking about?
[04:33] <tatters> k thnx for help much appriciated
[04:33] <C_J_Pro> <_<
[04:33] <C_J_Pro> lus, yes
[04:33] <C_J_Pro> well
[04:33] <C_J_Pro> flight 4 is
[04:33] <benplaut> lus|wats, nah... beta/alpha version
[04:33] <lus|wats> ah ic
[04:33] <frazmanw> I am trying Dapper on my test machine, and I am trying to get DVD support and other restricted formats. What repositories do I need to add?
[04:33] <C_J_Pro> idk, I just installed Flight 4 a few minutes ago
[04:33] <ipfw> crimsun, have to say, this might be the perfect linux for my wife, its very easy to use/install, and I love the ability to add limited access users quickly
[04:34] <drfoz> does alsa work on flight 4 now? i didnt have any sound on flight 3 with the via ac'97 audio
[04:34] <God|in> dee dee dee!
[04:34] <xpl0it> hi all
[04:34] <C_J_Pro> I should check to see if ALSA works
[04:34] <C_J_Pro> I have it up now
[04:34] <intelikey> ipfw that ability is not distro specific....
[04:35] <C_J_Pro> yes
[04:35] <C_J_Pro> ALSA works
[04:35] <ipfw> crimsun, I'm searching for some updated FireFox, xfce4, and so on. Know of any good package archives ?
[04:35] <ipfw> intelikey, I've never really ran gnome, is that more part of it ?
[04:35] <C_J_Pro> ipfw, try out the backports
[04:35] <gasp> what is flight 4?
[04:35] <C_J_Pro> Flight 4 is the latest version of Dapper Drake
[04:36] <C_J_Pro> don't run it unless you are willing to have some problems
[04:36] <ipfw> intelikey, I haven't ran X much for that matter either ;)
[04:36] <Fackamato> what's the more fundamental changes in dapper?
[04:36] <w32> Hey I am following a tutorial on howto forge "ISP Server Setup For Ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10" I have dont this  afew times, now except this time I decided I wanted to configure a software raid 5 on the drives I have 3 hdd's (20gb 20gb 27.4 gb) The base system is installed on the primary ide master and the other two disks are conifgured to be used for raid- I didn't want to do the "confgure a software raid" option in the initial setup
[04:36] <gasp> C_J_Pro:: thanks
[04:36] <Fackamato> I mean except new software versions, what will be different from breez
[04:36] <C_J_Pro> ok, w32 has just confused me
[04:36] <w32> sorry
[04:36] <C_J_Pro> sorry, whenever it gets into raid, I have no idea
[04:36] <gasp> C_J_Pro:: where are the backports?
[04:37] <crimsun> ipfw: are you tracking Dapper (6.04), or did you install Breezy (5.10)? Newer versions aren't in 5.10.
[04:37] <intelikey> ipfw not really... it's sudo that gives limited adminestrative access to users  and  the configs for the gui that make it easy to manipulate the sudoers file   using groups also is the main point.   it's a  linux  thing.
[04:37] <monzie> how do i go from Breezy to dapper ?
[04:37] <ipfw> crimsun, Oh... I'm Breezy right now, only base install CD I saw at the time
[04:37] <C_J_Pro> gasp, let me grab the address
[04:37] <w32> update your sources.list
[04:38] <C_J_Pro> gasp, you using breezy?
[04:38] <tatters> is it ok to run kde based packages in gnome? I am being told "cannot find kde helpcentre" is it safe to install or should I just upgrade kubuntu desktop?
[04:38] <gasp> C_J_Pro:: yeah
[04:38] <wastrel> !firefox1.5
[04:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:38] <ipfw> crimsun, done slack, fbsd, gentoo, and a bit of debian over the years.. The Gui stuff is very new to me though :)
[04:38] <intelikey> tatters yes
[04:38] <monzie> should i just change "breezy " to dapper everywhere in my sources.list , w32?
[04:38] <w32> yes
[04:38] <C_J_Pro> bah, where is that setup again?
[04:38] <intelikey> tatters or 'nome based apps in kde for that matter
[04:38] <ipfw> intelikey, guess I shouldn't have ignored sudo all these years, they really take advantage of it, and its nice
[04:39] <w32> there may be something else too I can't member for sure
[04:39] <ipfw> crimsun, is Dapper devel, or stable ?
[04:39] <C_J_Pro> gasp: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40291
[04:39] <gasp> ipfw:: sudo is nifty
[04:39] <Jormundgand> ipfw: Officially devel, unofficially quite stable.
[04:39] <tatters> k, so I can just install kde help centre rather than the whole package?
[04:39] <gasp> C_J_Pro:: thanks man
[04:40] <tatters> lol,its like a long and winding road . did the beatles use linux?
[04:40] <ipfw> so, do I need to switch over to Dapper to get FireFox 1.5 in the package listing ?
[04:40] <wastrel> !firefox1.5
[04:40] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:41] <aroman> how can I tell thet kernel to use a specific driver for a specific pci id (my network card) ?
[04:41] <ejofee> is there any user-friendly gui app which helps in choosing fonts for x11 (preferably also features font preview), also showing their standard x11 syntax? i currently use nedit (a text editor) to do that, but i was wondering whether there was some specialized app.
[04:41] <eauxnguyen> intelikey -> ok so xinetd wasn't installed, I thought it was part of the base package. Installing now. Thanks for your assist
[04:41] <ipfw> ubotu, thanks
[04:41] <ubotu> pas de quoi, ipfw
[04:41] <Jormundgand> I've replaced Metacity with Kwin due to a lack of functionality in the former, but I've found keycombos like Print Screen have stopped working. Does anyone have any advice on what I could grab from KDE to get Print Screen to work again?
[04:41] <zphinx> Why the hell does apt want to delete ubuntu-desktop when i try to uninstall xchat? :P
[04:41] <intelikey> ipfw yes i agree,  but the default setup of a ubuntu system is not more secure, but actually lsee secure; because most people don't use a secure personal password, where as they might for root; and also that sudo is set by default to remember the password for 15 minutes.   but when setup correctly sudo is a very good idea.
[04:41] <Jormundgand> zphinx: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which requires xchat.
[04:41] <tatters> same with postfix zphinx
[04:41] <ejofee> zphinx: ubuntu-desktop is not a package. you don't need it.
[04:42] <intelikey> hmmmm that is drifting off topic tho....
[04:42] <zphinx> gotcha
[04:42] <puff> Is it possible to watch quicktime on ubuntu?
[04:42] <ejofee> zphinx: so it's just ubuntu's way to tell you that now your original ubuntu desktop is incomplete. that's all.
[04:42] <intelikey> eauxnguyen np your welcome
[04:42] <wastrel> !quicktime
[04:42] <ubotu> [quicktime]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[04:42] <Yetiszaf> !glibc
[04:42] <ubotu> Yetiszaf: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:43] <intelikey> !info glibc
[04:43] <jedrick> i have error booting to my ubuntu, "server authorization directory (daemon/servauthdir) is set to /var/lib/gdm but this does not exit. please correct gdm configuration and restart gdm" why is that?
[04:43] <w32> !raid5
[04:43] <ubotu> w32: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:43] <w32> !raid
[04:43] <ubotu> [raid]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[04:44] <Yetiszaf> Anyone here who knows what to do if you can't get users to login via NIS?
[04:44] <jodanlime> are there any hard drives or tv tuners or video cards to stay away from with ubuntu?
[04:44] <jerrod> hello all.  what does it mean if when logining into myspace.com, an error message pops up saying: "object reference not set to an instance of an object"
[04:45] <ipfw> so, how do I get xfce in the package list, and have it as my default wm ?
[04:45] <intelikey> jodanlime ahhh whatever came out this week maybe....
[04:45] <ipfw> this gnome stuff seems awful heavy
[04:45] <Falstius> jodanlime: ati video cards tend to be more difficult, tv tuners that work with mythTV should be happy, and who has problems with hard drives?
[04:45] <gasp> gnome is awful heavy
[04:45] <intelikey> ipfw it's  xfce4
[04:45] <mcquaid> hey does gnome have a intergrated spell check like kde?
[04:45] <tatters> what I dont understand for example I can download phpgroupware or egroupware both look similer and both do essentially the same but slightly different how do I know which one to choose?
[04:45] <iceman> well all the dvd players i have found suck so far... damit
[04:45] <jerrod> question^^??
[04:46] <mcquaid> so it will work in apps like ff, xchat, gedit etc
[04:46] <intelikey> ipfw apt-cache search <blah>
[04:46] <Quinch> Just to ask, is there a WINE-specific chat somewhere?
[04:47] <dlmmlb> hwo to restart x server?
[04:47] <midwinter> #winehq
[04:47] <Quinch> Muchthanks.
[04:47] <jedrick> i have error booting to my ubuntu, "server authorization directory (daemon/servauthdir) is set to /var/lib/gdm but this does not exit. please correct gdm configuration and restart gdm" why is that? can someone help me
[04:47] <wastrel> xfce is in universe
[04:47] <nomin> what is the most straightforward, easiest to use program for encoding a dvd.  I have some .avi's and other videos on my pc that I want to put onto dvd to play in a dvd player.
[04:47] <Falstius> dlmmlb: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:47] <progrock> where do USB flash drives get mounted to by default?
[04:47] <intelikey> dlmmlb ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:47] <dlmmlb> i see. thanks
[04:47] <Falstius> dlmmlb: or just log out and back in again.
[04:48] <dlmmlb> thanks
[04:48] <shane__> has anyone here used slackware's zipslack?
[04:48] <tatters>  /media/usbdisk/   i think prog
[04:48] <intelikey> !info xfce
[04:48] <pder> is it possible to install ubuntu on an IBM compatible microcomputer system?
[04:49] <progrock> thanks
[04:49] <intelikey> !info xfce4
[04:49] <ubotu> xfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[04:49] <gasp> shane__:: zipslack isn't bad
[04:49] <Jivenix> sometimes i type in a command like find or grep and it never returns
[04:49] <intelikey> [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  Package 'xfce' does not exist.
[04:49] <amphi> pder: yes
[04:49] <shane__> gasp:: im having problems with it
[04:49] <mcquaid> i compiled xfce from svn
[04:49] <mcquaid> 4.4 is looking good
[04:49] <tatters> dont take my word for it though that where I find all my usb media stuff
[04:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i use this, so i can use my memory stick pro? /dev/sdf1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[04:49] <amphi> intelikey: xfce4 I believe
[04:49] <gasp> shane__:: what's up?
[04:50] <shane__> gasp:: and how do i whisper on irc, im kinda new at this
[04:50] <gasp> try /msg <user>
[04:50] <shane__> or are you now whispering?
[04:50] <shane__> not*
[04:51] <intelikey> DON'T WHISPER !
[04:51] <tatters> is that correct will  all usb media be found in /media/usbdisk    folder  and that is alos its mount point?
[04:52] <Prohibited> hmm, I run a DigiChat server which averages about 50-60 users daily, and I noticed that my physical memory is up to 98% using "PhpSysInfo" -- When I shut down DigiChat, it goes to around 55% -- Currently I have 4.80 MB free of memory, and the size is 249.48 - IS this normal?
[04:52] <pder> is it possible to install ubuntu using only low density 5.25 floppy diskettes?
[04:52] <rewt_> what;s a good medical irc channel?
[04:52] <Kyral> pder: I haven't seen those in about a decade
[04:52] <wastrel> i would be very surprised if there is a good medical irc channel
[04:52] <eobanb> pder; why would you do that
[04:52] <tatters> #diseases-r-us?
[04:53] <intelikey> pder yes it is..... but you don't want too.
[04:53] <rewt_> i need to find current acceptable failure rate of a pacemaker by gpvernment standards. >.<
[04:53] <eobanb> pder, i suppose it would be, but i think you'd need--literally--about 1000 of them.
[04:53] <enthused> is there a standard way to stop a running service? samba or sshd for instance?
[04:53] <gasp> lol@tatters
[04:53] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im trying to install VLC and when I do it says things like Depends:liba52-0.7.4 but it is not installable    -    what does this mean
[04:53] <Prohibited> yeah
[04:53] <Prohibited> kill PROCESS ID
[04:53] <pder> cdrom is broken and I only have 5.25 disk drive
[04:53] <mattwestm> is it possible to get above kernel 2.6.12-9-386 on a server install?
[04:53] <Prohibited> get the process id by typing "top" -- this shows you running processes
[04:53] <Falstius> keithhhhhhhhh: it means it needs a package that isn't in the repository
[04:54] <eobanb> enthused, yes.  services managed by init.d can be stopped by doing sudo /etc/init.d/servicename stop
[04:54] <enthused> Prohibited: there arent init scripts?
[04:54] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah
[04:54] <enthused> eobanb: hmm ok thanks
[04:54] <intelikey> eobanb i could do it with one disk.....  but it would require tons of time.
[04:54] <Falstius> keithhhhhhhhh: liba52 is for ACC codecs which are proprietary (I suspect)
[04:54] <eobanb> enthused, so for example, you could do sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop
[04:54] <Prohibited> oi, yes there is
[04:54] <jedrick> i have error booting to my ubuntu, "server authorization directory (daemon/servauthdir) is set to /var/lib/gdm but this does not exit. please correct gdm configuration and restart gdm" why is that? can someone help me
[04:54] <keithhhhhhhhh> Falstius-so how can I get these files?
[04:54] <enthused> eobanb, Prohibited: thanks
[04:55] <wastrel> jedrick:  does /var/lib/gdm exist?
[04:55] <goodtimes> I recently switched from metacity to sawfish and now my desktop icons of all the drives have disappeared, how can I get them back?
[04:56] <Falstius> keithhhhhhhhh: adding the multiverse repositories I think will fix that one (its in my list)
[04:56] <intelikey> jedrick  did you setup /var on another partition and for some reason it is not mounting ?
[04:57] <Falstius> keithhhhhhhhh: actually .. it looks like it is in main.  I don't know why it isn't there for you.
[04:57] <rage__> Hey guys ;)
[04:57] <jedrick> maybe or i don't know because i just redo a boot grub using install cd and maybe i mess it up
[04:57] <intelikey> Falstius main  and  main on the cd are !=
[04:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> Falstius-ok
[04:57] <jedrick> but i can see my var partition when i browse it here through partition magic
[04:58] <Falstius> intelikey: true .. maybe its finding the one on the CD first.
[04:58] <intelikey> jedrick   mount
[04:58] <Comrade_Sergei> how di i run wine?
[04:58] <tomallen4> hi, i'm new to ubuntu, and have a networking question
[04:59] <eobanb> tomallen4, sure, what's the question?
[04:59] <intelikey> Comrade_Sergei wine /path/to/file.exe
[04:59] <ablyss> Comrade_Sergei, you have in installed?
[04:59] <eobanb> Comrade_Sergei, do you have it installed already?
[04:59] <iceman> where can i get the video codecs for linux ...
[04:59] <jedrick> intelikey: mount to where?
[04:59] <ipfw> how do I turn off the stupid console beeping ?
[04:59] <eobanb> iceman, read the ubuntu faq
[04:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i get the volume keys on my keyboard to work
[04:59] <Comrade_Sergei> its instaeeld
[04:59] <tomallen4> thanks. well, obviously i'm online, but my connection speed is about 50-70% slower than under XP
[04:59] <Falstius> is there a good way to find out which repository is providing a package?
[04:59] <ipfw> like when I tab complete etc, its PC-Speaker, so even if I mute volume it goes
[04:59] <tomallen4> any ideas what the problem might be?
[04:59] <intelikey> jedrick just type   mount     to see if the partition is mounted on /var or not
[05:00] <eobanb> tomallen4, just while web browsing, or downloading a certain file, or using bittorrent, or what?
[05:00] <jedrick> intelikey: where will i type mount? im on my windows box
[05:00] <Comrade_Sergei> intelikey i have the file in a windows partition thats mounted
[05:01] <intelikey> Comrade_Sergei yeah.  and?
[05:01] <tomallen4> primarily web browsing. actually, bittorrent seems to be pretty good. my /etc/resolv.conf file correctly lists the 3 DNS addresses listed on my router
[05:01] <Comrade_Sergei> so how do i acces the file with wine
[05:01] <cyblivious> just mounted some ntfs partitions. but when i do, dekstop freezes every few seconds, like a skipping music cd
[05:01] <Comrade_Sergei> is it c: or /
[05:01] <cyblivious> does someone here know what the problem is?
[05:01] <Falstius> tomallen4: so how do you tell that it is slower?
[05:01] <stephelton> anyone know the command to make vi automatically indent?
[05:01] <jedrick> intelikey: how will i know if it's mounted to var?
[05:01] <Yetiszaf> stephelton: vi or vim?
[05:01] <intelikey> jedrick disreguard all i've said..... again i thought i was talking to someone that was actually running linux.
[05:01] <eobanb> i dont think vi can
[05:02] <wastrel> ipfw:  http://ldp.rtin.bz/linuxfocus/English/June2005/article378.shtml
[05:02] <stephelton> Yetiszaf, vim
[05:02] <Yetiszaf> stephelton: IIRC :set autoindent
[05:02] <tomallen4> well, it's just a perception, but then i tested it using vonage's site (http://www.vonage.com/help_knowledgeBase_article.php?article=497&category=159)
[05:02] <Jormundgand> Does anyone know how KDE handles Print Screen? Because I can't use that key to take a screenshot since I replaced Metacity with Kwin...how do I get it back?
[05:02] <Comrade_Sergei> intelikey?
[05:02] <stephelton> Yetiszaf, i'm confused as to what the difference is - vi and vim both accomplish the same thing when run from a CL
[05:02] <tomallen4> that uses java
[05:02] <iceman> god a simple link on installing the video codecs ? anyone
[05:02] <quietFrank> hi all, I have an old laptop with no working floppy or cd I have installed the base system on it by taking the hard drive out and putting it in another box and installing the base system
[05:02] <eobanb> tomallen4, and is it slower?
[05:02] <Yetiszaf> stephelton: Thats most likely because you don't have vi installed.
[05:02] <jedrick> intelikey: ok, is there any other way to know that my linux is mounting to my var?
[05:02] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with setting up printers?
[05:02] <quietFrank> how do I instll packages from a local network source ?
[05:02] <cyblivious> just mounted some ntfs partitions. but when i do, dekstop freezes every few seconds, like a skipping music cd
[05:02] <amphi> stephelton: vi is a symlink to vim on most distros - you'll have to try netbsd or summat to get 'real' vi
[05:03] <stephelton> Yetiszaf, i see. is there any reason why someone would use vi over vim?
[05:03] <jedrick> intelikey: i can browse my linux file and var from here using partition magic
[05:03] <tomallen4> yes. with xp, i get the full 3 Mbps speed (almost), with ubuntu i get only about 800-900 kbps
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> _jason: r u good w/ printers?
[05:03] <wastrel> real vi is inferior
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> _jason: would this work? # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.1.23
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> # Written by cupsd on Sun Feb 19 21:44:24 2006
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> <DefaultPrinter LaserJet-1000>
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> Info LaserJet-1000
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> DeviceURI smb://alex@KENDELL//hpLaser
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> State Idle
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> Accepting Yes
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> JobSheets none none
[05:03] <intelikey> Comrade_Sergei you asked how to run wine.....  the answer i gave is     wine /path/to/file.exe
[05:03] <stephelton> amphi, makes sense.
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> QuotaPeriod 0
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> PageLimit 0
[05:03] <tomallen4> that's still fast, but obviously something is wrong
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> KLimit 0
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[05:03] <amphi> pianoboy3333: don't flood, please
[05:03] <Yetiszaf> stephelton: vi is probably a bit faster, but that's about it. No colors, less features.
[05:03] <Comrade_Sergei> intelikey is it wine c:/ or wine / / / its in windows
[05:03] <pianoboy3333> amphi: sry, I thought I had the pastebin url in my clipboard
[05:03] <amphi> pianoboy3333: heh
[05:04] <crouchingMonkey> how do i install firefox 1.5 on ubuntu ?
[05:04] <stephelton> Yetiszaf, pff ... faster...
[05:04] <iceman> !codec
[05:04] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iceman
[05:04] <wastrel> !firefox1.5
[05:04] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:04] <stephelton> Yetiszaf, thanks
[05:04] <pianoboy3333> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8927
[05:04] <iceman> !codecs
[05:04] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:04] <intelikey> jedrick can you write to /etc/fstab from there ?   or at least read it and confirm that there is a /var  listed in it ?
[05:04] <amphi> stephelton: vi was designed to be usable across 9600 baud links ;)
[05:04] <Yetiszaf> stephelton: well, until about a month ago I had a solaris-box here on which that mattered.
[05:04] <iceman> !easysource
[05:04] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:04] <jedrick> intelikey: yes
[05:05] <Falstius> tomallen4: they all seem to require Flash
[05:05] <stephelton> Yetiszaf, its 2006 dude
[05:05] <stephelton> amphi, lol
[05:05] <jedrick> intelikey: i can copy the file and edit it then paste it again
[05:05] <cfh_dev> Where can I find configure?
[05:05] <amphi> cfh_dev: for what?
[05:05] <kevo_tool> Is there a known problem with 'fglrx' and XVideo?
[05:05] <kevo_tool> (Dapper)
[05:05] <tomallen4> Falstius: Flash? the online connection speed tests?
[05:05] <Yetiszaf> stephelton: Yes. That does not mean we've gotten rid of all those boxes yet.
[05:05] <cfh_dev> amphi: the program.  Like in the sequence "./configure && make install"
[05:05] <intelikey> Comrade_Sergei no it's   wine /media/windowsdrive_c:_maybe/Program\Files/accessories/notepad.exe     or something like that.
[05:06] <amphi> cfh_dev: in the directory you unpacked the tarball into
[05:06] <Comrade_Sergei> u sure
[05:06] <pianoboy3333> I have a printer problem, It won't connect, here is my printers.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8927
[05:06] <Yetiszaf> Anyone know where to find e-mail-addresses of developers?
[05:06] <wastrel> <3 vi
[05:06] <intelikey> jedrick and fill it with M$ markup... not a good idea.
[05:06] <Falstius> tomallen4: yeah.  I don't know if it affects the tests but I hate flash and don't have it installed :)
[05:06] <Jivenix> is there a quick command to take a screen capture and send it to file
[05:06] <stephelton> Yetiszaf, i recently did some file recovery on an old pentium 1 running win95... that was a nightmare... i pitty you
[05:06] <wastrel> Yetiszaf:  you should direct questions to the appropriate mailing lits
[05:06] <wastrel> Yetiszaf:  *list
[05:07] <jedrick> intelikey: what you mean M$?
[05:07] <tomallen4> Falstius: yeah, it could be flash or java... is there a better way to test connection speed?
[05:07] <Comrade_Sergei> still doesnt work
[05:07] <intelikey> Yetiszaf read the man page for the app
[05:07] <amphi> Yetiszaf: of what? often man pages; ubuntu maintainers should be in /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE_NAME somewhere
[05:07] <Yetiszaf> intelikey, wastrel, amphi: I only want to know how fast a bug will be fixed.
[05:08] <Comrade_Sergei> intelikey could u go to #intelikey and explain this to me plz
[05:08] <intelikey> jedrick micro$oft uses different line end char than unix.
[05:08] <Yetiszaf> It seems glibc/libc6 is broken in Breezy.
[05:08] <Falstius> tomallen4: bittorrent is a pretty good one :-P.  Maybe you should set your router to be the primary DNS in /etc/resolv.conf .. it should do caching and the firewall could be slowing down your requests.
[05:08] <beerockxs> bah, bad metacity
[05:08] <jedrick> intelikey: here's the fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information.## <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0/dev/hda5       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1/dev/hda7       /boot           ext3    defaults        0       2/dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,
[05:08] <jedrick> oops
[05:08] <wastrel> Jivenix:  scrot
[05:08] <Comrade_Sergei> good thing theres no ops
[05:08] <amphi> Jivenix: or xwd for great canonicality!
[05:09] <jjjjjjj> hello... my thunderbird won't start from the menu... I have to start it from a terminal.  any idea?
[05:09] <tga1> hey, what's a good way to get two machines to connect to each other for remote backups?
[05:09] <amphi> jjjjjjj: the menu doesn't point at the binary?
[05:09] <Comrade_Sergei> intelikey?
[05:09] <tomallen4> Falstius: so, change /etc/resolv.conf to just the first DNS address listed on my router? and i'm assuming it should be the DNS, not IP, right?
[05:09] <amphi> tga1: ethernet?
[05:09] <pianoboy3333> I have a printer problem, It won't connect, here is my printers.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8927
[05:09] <Falstius> tomallen4: no, make your router (192.168.0.1) be the only entry in resolv.conf
[05:10] <Codename_V> hi guys.  the grub install failed on me.  the new dapper drake beta or whatever.  would anyone be able to give me the grub config for that?
[05:10] <intelikey> jedrick i don't see any mention of /var in that file..... so "IF" you installed using a seperate partition for /var  then there is your error.....    (that all hinges on the IF)
[05:10] <goodtimes> I recently switched from metacity to sawfish and now my desktop icons of all the drives have disappeared, how can I get them back?
[05:10] <jjjjjjj> oo ya... i remember reading about checking that.  but can't remember where.  :/
[05:10] <Tidus> goodtimes: you can just run 'nautilus' to restore the desktop
[05:10] <Falstius> the router will then relay that to the dns servers it has and cache the results for faster browsing on your end.  That should be the way dhcp set it up.
[05:10] <Jivenix> how do i view images?
[05:10] <jjjjjjj> maybe that was in novell linux
[05:10] <jedrick> intelikey: so what shall i do then to mount it to var?
[05:10] <Jivenix> from the terminal
[05:10] <tga1> amphi, I mean authentication-wise
[05:10] <nandemonai> hi people
[05:11] <Comrade_Sergei> will someone here help me with WINE plz
[05:11] <ipfw> wastrel, thanks man
[05:11] <tomallen4> Falstius: oh! just the 192.168... address! when i set it up, the installer automatically configured it as the 3 DNS addresses (not local 192... addresses)... ok, let me try to change it, see if that helps. thanks!
[05:11] <nandemonai> How reliable is Ubuntu64? And is Ubuntu Secure enough to run as a small soho server?
[05:11] <amphi> Jivenix: imagemagick (display), gthumb, gqview, pornview, ...
[05:11] <stephelton> when i hit backspace (not delete) in vim it deletes the character under the cursor (as delete would) anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:12] <bunghole> hi
[05:12] <jetscreamer> heh
[05:12] <instabin> any one know how to rip and compress a dvd
[05:12] <Falstius> tomallen4: just make sure to keep a backup list incase your router is the 1 in 10000 that doesn't do DNS.
[05:12] <Codename_V> CompBrain: sure
[05:12] <instabin> Want to make some backups
[05:12] <intelikey> you boot ubuntu   then  probably use   fdisk -l   to find the partition and issue a  mount /dev/hd?# /var   to mount it.  and add a line in /etc/fstab to reflect that device and mount point (like the one for / )         jedrick
[05:12] <instabin> to use in the car
[05:12] <amphi> instabin: mencoder - acidrip is a handy gui fe
[05:12] <Codename_V> nandemonai: ya got me.  but considering it's debian based I'd say darn stable.  and secure?  secure as you make it.
[05:13] <Tidus> !tell instabin -about restricted
[05:13] <Falstius> instabin: alot of people use DVDshrink in wine.
[05:13] <intelikey> jedrick where  ? is a letter  and  # is a number ^ as specified by the fdisk command.
[05:13] <tomallen4> Falstius: OK, thanks. actually, i already have it saved as /etc/resolv.conf.backup.
[05:13] <instabin> i tryed to setup dvdshrink but couldnt get it
[05:13] <jedrick> intelikey: can you tell me how? i mean the commands. i'll just mount it through a live cd and probably do what you said
[05:13] <Bite_Me_Bill> Where would I look to edit my setting for the login screen that is shown just after boot.
[05:13] <Codename_V> oops.  meant to say, Comrade_Sergei: sure
[05:13] <bunghole> #>mount -o loop -t iso9660 MORROWIND.iso /mnt/cdrom (gives this error: MORROWIND.iso: Permission denied) I am doing this as root. Morrowind.iso exists on an nfs share. What does it mean by permission denied?
[05:14] <Falstius> instabin: there are some notes on using it at the wine site.  somewhere.
[05:14] <intelikey> jedrick yeah mount your root partition and edit /<mountpoint>/etc/fstab file....
[05:14] <wastrel> Bite_Me_Bill:  the gdm theme can be changed in system > administration > login screen setup
[05:15] <Bite_Me_Bill> wastrel, Ok thanks I will look into that.
[05:15] <Falstius> bunghole: you don't he read permission for that file on the other machine?
[05:15] <pianoboy3333> I have a printer problem, It won't connect, here is my printers.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8927
[05:15] <cyblivious> which is better, OSS or ALSA?
[05:15] <Yetiszaf> cyblivious: most probably alsa.
[05:15] <cyblivious> why?
[05:15] <Falstius> ALSA with OSS compatibility enabled ..
[05:16] <jedrick> intelikey: what will i change on /etc/fstab? or what will i type in there
[05:16] <bunghole> Falstius, the nfs share is mounted as rw, I have read/write permissions on the whole share
[05:16] <Yetiszaf> cyblivious: because it's the new way for sound.
[05:16] <intelikey> jedrick boot your live cd.  and come back in here....
[05:16] <cyblivious> ok
[05:16] <bunghole> Falstius, -rwxr--r--  1 bunghole bunghole 585M 2006-02-02 00:52 MORROWIND.iso
[05:16] <Bite_Me_Bill> wastrel, that seems just the themes.  I need to change the refresh rate for only that screen.
[05:16] <cyblivious> but before, i could use ALSA, but now it has no sounds. but OSS works. what could be the prob?
[05:16] <jedrick> intelikey: but i can't connect to the internet through live cd im just using dial ap :(
[05:17] <Falstius> bunghole: weird.  *shrug*  dunno why.  Maybe NFS and mount don't get along.
[05:17] <intelikey> jedrick i use dialup and i can......  have you tried wvdial ?
[05:17] <cyblivious> is there a way to reinstall ALSA?
[05:17] <Evodawg> not sure does ubuntu use alsaconfig
[05:18] <ba> read
[05:18] <jedrick> intelikey: nope. can you teach me how to connect using dial up. i have cnet intel v92 external modem
[05:18] <intelikey> oh jedrick i see.  winmodem..... never mind.
[05:18] <Falstius> should be able to do something like dpkg --reconfigure alsa
[05:18] <jetscreamer> alsaconfig is in alsa-base iirc
[05:18] <iceman> shoot cant find how to install codecs for dvd's
[05:18] <jjjjjjj> woah ubuntu comes with asterisk?
[05:18] <wastrel> Bite_Me_Bill:  dunno about that
[05:19] <jetscreamer> many things come with asterisk available
[05:19] <intelikey> jedrick ya kinda need a real modem for use with linux....
[05:19] <jedrick> intelikey: ok just tell me what to do on fstab
[05:19] <cyblivious> just check my disk manager, my dvd drive was /dev/hdd. is this ok?
[05:19] <jjjjjjj> asterisk, mythtv and vista are my reasons for relooking at linux
[05:19] <cyblivious> just checked my disk manager, my dvd drive was /dev/hdd. is this ok?
[05:20] <Evodawg> jedrick:  I'll sell you my old one for 20 bucks
[05:20] <OHPhoneGuy> http://freegeekcolumbus.org/wiki/OEM_Install - Guide to OEM installation (oem's really easy, but still)
[05:20] <wastrel> what's vista
[05:20] <Bite_Me_Bill> wastrel, seems that xorg isn't started yet...
[05:20] <jetscreamer> next windows?
[05:20] <Yetiszaf> bunghole: what does "head -1 $location/Morrowind.iso" do?
[05:20] <Bite_Me_Bill> wastrel, thanks for the reply though.
[05:20] <stephelton> when i hit backspace (not delete) in vim it deletes the character under the cursor (as delete would) anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:20] <iceman> anyone able to help on dvd codecs
[05:20] <jetscreamer> !w32codecs
[05:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:21] <Evodawg> Once you go dsl you can never go back to dial up
[05:21] <jetscreamer> see also libdvdread2&3
[05:21] <zphinx> wtf
[05:21] <wastrel> Bite_Me_Bill:  maybe something in /etc/gdm/  ...
[05:21] <gasp> Evodawg:: very true
[05:21] <jedrick> intelikey: still there man?
[05:21] <iceman> jetscreamer thanks
[05:21] <zphinx> ubntu is asking for my cdrom when im trying to reinstall the ubuntu release of xchat
[05:21] <Evodawg> anyone want to buy my old dial up hardware modem
[05:22] <jetscreamer> Bite_Me_Bill: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe
[05:22] <Falstius> zphinx: remove the cdrom from the /etc/apt/sources.list file (or from sources in synaptic)
[05:22] <Evodawg> works great just plug it in and linux just works
[05:22] <jjjjjjj> Once you go to fibre optics you'll never go back to dsl
[05:22] <intelikey> jedrick ok one more time.     use 'fdisk -l '  or  'fdisk -l /dev/hd? '  (as typed without the ' marks)  to determine exact device of the partition that should be mmounted on /var    there are two listed in your fstab, it is NOT one of them; but should be a linux partition.        then in the fstab copy the line for /boot  so that you have two of them.  then edit one of them to the device and mount point correct for var.
[05:22] <Evodawg> yeah but how many of us have fiber avail
[05:22] <eobanb> once you go symmetrical you can never go back to asymmetrical
[05:23] <tatters> hmmm who helped me earlier I rebooted PC now cannot login
[05:23] <zphinx> The cd isnt in the sources list
[05:23] <pianoboy3333> I have a printer problem, It won't connect, here is my printers.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8927
[05:24] <Evodawg> who ever helped tatters   RUN
[05:24] <jetscreamer> well that was concise
[05:24] <Falstius> zphinx: did you apt-get update?
[05:24] <tatters> lol
[05:24] <intelikey> wb tatters
[05:24] <jetscreamer> so the printer isn't local
[05:24] <tatters> ah intellikey
[05:24] <Falstius> intelikey: isn't it fdisk -p /dev/hdx?
[05:24] <zphinx> since when?
[05:24] <jetscreamer> fdisk -l for a list of partitions
[05:24] <zphinx> updated the repositorys plenty since install
[05:24] <jjjjjjj> well i win the "lawnchair larry" award today.... Just uninstalled thunderbird 1.07 and now 1.5 is gone too.
[05:25] <Falstius> zphinx: since you had the problem with xchat :)
[05:25] <WAKKA> can somone tell me how to use my keyboard multi-media keys easily ?
[05:25] <tatters> any idea Y ow cannot login?
[05:25] <intelikey> Falstius no.
[05:25] <zphinx> just updated it
[05:25] <jedrick> intelikey: ok mine is /dev/hda5 that's the root, but i dont know how to  mount point correct for var
[05:25] <zphinx> still the same problem
[05:25] <eobanb> wakka, you usually can, but it's usually not very easy.
[05:25] <quietFrank> I have a webserver which I want to use to act as server for apt to server the files off my cd can anyone tell me how to go about this ?
[05:25] <tatters> only can connect using fail safe terminal
[05:25] <WAKKA> eobanb: yea :-(
[05:26] <Falstius> I keep thinking P because that's the command in interactive mode.  My bad.
[05:26] <WAKKA> !wiki
[05:26] <quietFrank> the mirrors page in the wiki only describes how to rsync from an existing mirror
[05:26] <Falstius> tatters: that means you can log in, but you can't start xwindows.
[05:26] <Evodawg> wonder if there are more apt-gets than URPMI'S ??????
[05:26] <cyblivious> is there a way to convert my linux file system w/o losing the data like in partition magic?
[05:26] <interneti> I am currently compiling audacity on ubuntu breezy, and I get this error towards the end http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8932
[05:27] <Evodawg> I'm from the Mandriva old school
[05:27] <eobanb> Evodawg, urpmi is not a package format, rpm is.  urpmi is just a mandrake package management programme
[05:27] <zphinx> Anyone else have any other ideas?
[05:27] <interneti> any help would be greatly appreciated
[05:27] <zphinx> i did delete the xchat.desktop file tho, might be that
[05:27] <Evodawg> ok ok ok   sorry
[05:27] <GoDawgs> kameron: dude.... hello :)
[05:27] <jetscreamer> !repository
[05:27] <ubotu> jetscreamer: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:27] <Ubeyguy> i have installed webmin
[05:27] <Ubeyguy> what do i type to start it?
[05:28] <zphinx> you dont, go to http://localhost:10000
[05:28] <Evodawg> just wondering if more are development is taking place with rpm or get
[05:28] <tatters> Wait danger will robinson
[05:28] <amphi> Evodawg: mandriva is old school?
[05:28] <wastrel> mandriva, is that mandrake?
[05:28] <GoDawgs> hey guys... what does this mean:   Depends: kdelibs4c2 but it is not going to be installed
[05:28] <jetscreamer> http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+repository
[05:28] <ablyss> https://localhost:10000 < uses ssl by default and you need to set root passwd
[05:28] <Ubeyguy> its a blank page
[05:28] <jetscreamer> http://wiki.africasource2.tacticaltech.org/post/main/02kq1ct2pXNBBsXY
[05:29] <jedrick> intelikey: ?
[05:29] <zphinx> So anyone have any idea why apt is asking for my cd-rom when im reinstalling xchat? :P
[05:29] <packet> GoDawgs, it means that you have a dependency conflict
[05:29] <Evodawg> You know what I mean  I meant Mandrake
[05:29] <Ubeyguy> ablyss: on https i get Error - Access denied for 192.168.254.69
[05:29] <GoDawgs> packet: Thank you.  Do you know how to resolve it?
[05:29] <jace> whats a good program to edit photos in ubuntu?
[05:29] <interneti> not to sound impatient but would anyone be able to help me with my situation
[05:29] <wastrel> jace:  gimp
[05:29] <GoDawgs> packet: or rather how I can fix it... :)
[05:29] <Ubeyguy> jace: gimp
[05:29] <jace> appreciate it
[05:29] <tatters> intelikey what did we do that now has locked me out of desktop?
[05:29] <Falstius> zphinx: try "apt-get show xchat" and it might tell you where it is looking for it.
[05:29] <wastrel> jace:  great program, terrible name :] 
[05:29] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, you get a login screen though? or just access denied?
[05:29] <Ubeyguy> ablyss: on https i get Error - Access denied for 192.168.254.69, Any idea?
[05:29] <harritj> zphinx forgot to hash out the cdrom entries in sources.list?
[05:29] <Ubeyguy> ablyss: just access denied
[05:30] <Evodawg> ubuntu  is new school compared to Mandrivia   since Mandriva is Mandrake
[05:30] <intelikey> tatters nothing.... hehhe. but maybe your tmp is not flushing propperly    close all apps sudo "rm -rf /tmp/* /var/tmp/* "   reboot.
[05:30] <zphinx> no, no cd-rom enteries
[05:30] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, dont use your IP, use localhost or 127.0.0.1:10000
[05:30] <Yetiszaf> zphinx: have you run 'apt-get update'?
[05:30] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, localhost:10000
[05:30] <Ubeyguy> but i want to connect from a remote machine
[05:30] <zphinx> yes
[05:30] <packet> GoDawgs, have you mixed your repositories? It's very hard to solve circular dependencies most of the time
[05:31] <jedrick> intelikey: ok mine is /dev/hda5 that's the root, but i dont know how to  mount point correct for var
[05:31] <cafuego> Ubeyguy: tunnel through ssh
[05:31] <GoDawgs> packet: what do you mean by mixing them?
[05:31] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, you have to adjust that from the host machine first
[05:31] <jedrick> intelikey: how to mount point?
[05:31] <Falstius> Ubeyguy: you'll have to allow that remote host .. I think you can do that from the web interface if you're on the local host.
[05:31] <tatters> and whats that gunna do?
[05:31] <GoDawgs> packet: I went through the sourceo-matic to create my repos
[05:31] <Jormundgand> I've replaced Metacity with Kwin due to a lack of functionality in the former, but I've found keycombos like Print Screen have stopped working. Does anyone have any advice on what I need from KDE to get Print Screen to work again?
[05:31] <jetscreamer> try locate
[05:31] <packet> the sources in your sources.list file
[05:31] <intelikey> tatters that may also undo part of what we did eariler.
[05:31] <jetscreamer> or try /usr/bin/xchat
[05:31] <Ubeyguy> ok brb
[05:31] <packet> the places you download your programs from
[05:31] <tatters> oh
[05:31] <GoDawgs> packet: here i'll copy and paste it in the pastebin .. just a sec
[05:31] <tatters> :/
[05:31] <Codename_V> so not a soul is running the new dapper drake beta or whatever?
[05:31] <amphi> Jormundgand: what does it do? I have it mapped  to Compose here
[05:31] <Jormundgand> Codename_V: I am.
[05:32] <Yetiszaf> zphinx: can you paste your sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[05:32] <jetscreamer> Codename_V: they crashed earlier..
[05:32] <Jormundgand> amphi: Print Screen takes a screenshot of the screen.
[05:32] <GoDawgs> packet: actually it's installing something right now so hold on a minute... ok?
[05:32] <intelikey> jedrick please ignore me.  and let someone help you that can speak newbish better than i can.  thank you.   and sorry for the confussion.
[05:32] <Codename_V> Jormundgand: would you mind doing me a favor and paste your grub config file somewhere so I can have a look?
[05:32] <zphinx> Nevermind, i found the problem
[05:32] <jedrick> intelikey: please man i need your help, your the only here i could count on.
[05:32] <Falstius> zphinx: what was it?
[05:33] <jetscreamer> Jormundgand: you might have tried sawfish first, old default before metacity
[05:33] <GoDawgs> packet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8933
[05:33] <zphinx> me being blind and not seeing the cd rom entry :P
[05:33] <Jormundgand> jetscreamer: sorry?
[05:33] <amphi> Jormundgand: why have a key for that? it's not like you need it often, and umpteen programs exist that can do that
[05:33] <wastrel> yay
[05:33] <zphinx> it was right at the top
[05:33] <Falstius> zphinx: hah!  told you so :)
[05:33] <ablyss> jedrick, i speak newbish.. what do you need to do?
[05:33] <wastrel> zphinx:  they hide it up at the top where you expect comments :] 
[05:33] <Jormundgand> amphi: habit, and convenience.
[05:33] <jedrick> im just new to linux can someone help me
[05:33] <jetscreamer> Jormundgand: sawfish used to be the gnome default.
[05:33] <Jormundgand> Codename_V: where do I find that again?
[05:34] <jetscreamer> you might try that one.
[05:34] <intelikey> jedrick there you go ablyss can help you.
[05:34] <Jormundgand> jetscreamer: yes...what does that have to do with kwin?
[05:34] <zphinx> wastrel: yeah :/
[05:34] <Falstius> ablyss: he needs to read a guide on how to use linux.
[05:34] <taylor_> do i need to compile a "tar.bz2" file?
[05:34] <Codename_V> jordo23: /boot/grub/menu.lst maybe?  or maybe /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[05:34] <Jormundgand> jetscreamer: I prefer kwin. I just want Print Screen.
[05:34] <ipfw> last stupid question for a bit, now that I have modified the sources.list why doesn't the default gnome-app-install program show a "Full" list of the stuff to install, for instance... I can apt-get install tor but tor isn't in the package list of the gui package thingy
[05:34] <wastrel> taylor_:  tar.bz2 is like  .zip  it's compressed
[05:34] <jedrick> ablyss: i have erro booting to my ubuntu.
[05:34] <jetscreamer> ah ok sorry
[05:34] <Codename_V> Jormundgand: that stuff up there was meant for you.  ^^^
[05:34] <taylor_> it has alot of files in it
[05:34] <ablyss> jedrick, what does the error say
[05:34] <jace> earlier, i tried to install a 32 bit ubuntu, but I dont think that installed correctly.  Are there any other ways to use 32 bit application in 64 bit ubuntu?  I'm so considering going to suse
[05:34] <zphinx> i habitually look a few rows down when opening a config file or a script since the first few rows are usually GPL comments etc
[05:34] <Ubeyguy> ablyss: i tryed to login as root it didnt work and i tried to login as my user and it didnt work how do i login?
[05:34] <jedrick> ablyss: server authorization directory (daemon/servauthdir) is set to /var/lib/gdm but this does not exit. please correct gdm configuration and restart gdm
[05:34] <jjjjjjj> what is the wiki for thunderbird?
[05:34] <interneti> is there a possibility someone can help?
[05:34] <intelikey> ipfw update ?
[05:34] <pianoboy3333> Is someone here good with printers?
[05:35] <jetscreamer> jedrick: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[05:35] <Falstius> jace: you can install a 32bit chroot environment ...
[05:35] <packet> wow GoDawgs I have to say that with that many sources there is no way to know where the conflict introduced itself.
[05:35] <ipfw> intelikey, umm, like apt-get update ?
[05:35] <GoDawgs> ahh... crap
[05:35] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ?
[05:35] <GoDawgs> ok...
[05:35] <taylor_> how do i compile source?
[05:35] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, su -c root passwd  << change your root password to match your sudo password, in webmin user=root not youself
[05:35] <jetscreamer> jedrick?
[05:35] <intelikey> ipfw in synaptic
[05:35] <jetscreamer> there's the .conf
[05:35] <GoDawgs> packet: so just start deleting and see what happens?
[05:35] <ipfw> intelikey, thats another subject, how do it get it to search for updates with apt ? :)
[05:35] <packet> what I mean is: one program is dependent on one file that another program won't tolerate etc, etc.
[05:35] <jedrick> jetscreamer: <jetscreamer> jedrick: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf <-- what shall i do
[05:35] <ipfw> intelikey, synaptic ?
[05:35] <Falstius> RHEL/SL4/centOS for 64bit is setup better for running 32bit apps than ubuntu64 in my opinion.
[05:36] <packet> vicious circle
[05:36] <amphi> interneti: why are you compiling it?
[05:36] <wastrel> ipfw:  synaptic is a gui frontend to apt
[05:36] <wastrel> ipfw:  it's pretty nice for a gui frontend
[05:36] <Ubeyguy> ablyss: Unknown id: passwd ?
[05:36] <GoDawgs> packet: I'm surprised you say that's a lot of sources... I understand many people have up to 50-75
[05:36] <Falstius> ipfw: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[05:36] <wastrel> ipfw:  i prefer the command line :] 
[05:36] <jace> hmm never heard of it
[05:36] <jedrick> ablyss: still there?
[05:36] <jace> centOS?
[05:36] <chameleon> anyone know the best distro for a game-web-mail sever?
[05:36] <GoDawgs> maybe i'm mistaken... but i know i've read that many times
[05:36] <ipfw> wastrel, is it installed by default
[05:36] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, sorry su -c passwd root
[05:36] <pianoboy3333> Is someone here good with printers?
[05:36] <ablyss> jedrick, tried reinstalling ubuntu ?
[05:36] <chameleon> and maby PHPbb
[05:36] <OmegaAlpha> hey anyone familiar with the source o matic?
[05:37] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Yes.  I am.   A little.
[05:37] <jetscreamer> jedrick: edit it. but you need to know what to put. might be easier to just apt-get remove --purge gdm && apt-get install gdm
[05:37] <wastrel> ipfw:  i belive so... if you're in gnome it's system->administration->synaptic...
[05:37] <Ubeyguy> ablyss: su: Authentication failure
[05:37] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: what is it?
[05:37] <intelikey> ipfw yes default install has "synaptic package manager "
[05:37] <jedrick> ablyss: no i dont want to. i have some important data there
[05:37] <jace> is it difficult to use?
[05:37] <jodanlime> hey, how do I change my /home directory to its own partition?
[05:37] <jace> I'm kinda a newbie this is like week 2 for me and linux
[05:37] <jedrick> ablyss: i think it's not mounting to var just like intelikey said
[05:37] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Do you have a question?
[05:37] <jetscreamer> jodanlime: edit the fstab
[05:38] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, hello.  I need to make a new source.list I think the s.o.m. has everything. but dont know what to pick
[05:38] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, you using gnome or kde ?
[05:38] <jodanlime> jetscreamer, but what will happen to the files that I have in home now?
[05:38] <Ubeyguy> gnome
[05:38] <intelikey> jodanlime you mount the partition some place and cp the files over and mount -o remount    it to /home
[05:38] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, whats up. what is the source o matic? http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:38] <chameleon> anyone know the best distro for a game-web-mail-PHpbb sever?
[05:38] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: It all depends on what you what software pkgs you want to install.  Give me an idea of what you're looking for.
[05:38] <jodanlime> intelikey, oh, lol, der
[05:38] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, open root terminal
[05:38] <jodanlime> shoulda knew that one!
[05:38] <jodanlime> thanks
[05:38] <Ubeyguy> ok then
[05:38] <jetscreamer> jodanlime: cp -a them first, or mv /home /home2 && mkdir /home, then go to town
[05:39] <jetscreamer> jodanlime: they will still be there but unaccessible
[05:39] <OmegaAlpha> what about the sources that are an option
[05:39] <Codename_V> Jormundgand: you coulda skipped all the comments man, but oh well.  anyway, I really appreciate it.  thanks.
[05:39] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: still playing with stellarium ;) thanks, I'll have a look
[05:39] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: It is a way for one to install repositories for downloading software packages for automatic installation.
[05:39] <ablyss> Ubeyguy, then just type passwd
[05:39] <Ubeyguy> ok
[05:39] <jetscreamer> jodanlime: unless you mv them first
[05:39] <Falstius> jodanlime: and don't forget to delete them from the old home or they'll just be wasting space.
[05:39] <jetscreamer> what he said
[05:39] <intelikey> jodanlime don't forget to add a line in /etc/fstab  to reflect said change
[05:39] <jetscreamer> and him
[05:39] <jodanlime> jetscreamer, okedoke, i got it know, just wasnt sure what would happen to the files, but moving them sounds like a good deal, lol
[05:39] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, I already have everything installed but i get errors when running sudo apt-get update
[05:39] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I must say I use it and can't imagine NOT using it.  Though there are problems like dependancy problems.
[05:39] <ablyss> jedrick, you can reinstall without formatting if your careful
[05:39] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: What is one of the errors?
[05:40] <jodanlime> thanks, see you guys later
[05:40] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: You can paste the entire list of errors at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8933
[05:40] <jetscreamer> jedrick: just mount all the partitions you have and look to see which one is the one you want.
[05:40] <jedrick> ablyss: but i dont wanna change my settings.
[05:40] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, hey hey how did you say to change direction in Stellarioum?
[05:40] <jetscreamer> then change the fstab
[05:40] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Oops.. drop the 8933 in the address
[05:40] <ipfw> wastrel, intelikey I found it... when I first open I get list errors from the source.list I created from the source-o-matic ... it continues on just fine though (seems to)
[05:40] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: yeah, <- & ->
[05:40] <jjjjjjj> woo hoo... reinstalled thunderbird from the synaptic and my mail was there.  :D
[05:40] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what will i change in fstab?
[05:40] <stephelton> when i hit backspace (not delete) in vim it deletes the character under the cursor (as delete would) anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:41] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, yeah i know im very familiar with paste bin heh
[05:41] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Oh good. :)
[05:41] <jetscreamer> jedrick: you have a line mounting /var ?
[05:41] <jetscreamer> post the fstab
[05:41] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, the buttons on the bottom right hand corner of the screen?
[05:41] <jedrick> jetscreamer: yes, i can see it from here using partition magic. i can even browse to it
[05:41] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, ok ill have to run the command again
[05:41] <jetscreamer> which one is it
[05:41] <intelikey> jetscreamer no there is no line in his fstab
[05:41] <jetscreamer> heh
[05:42] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Ok...
[05:42] <jetscreamer> why do you have a seperate /var
[05:42] <chameleon> anyone know the best distro for a game-web-mail-PHpbb sever?
[05:42] <jedrick> jetscreamer: here's the fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information.## <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0/dev/hda5       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1/dev/hda7       /boot           ext3    defaults        0       2/dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 r
[05:42] <intelikey> jetscreamer he flooded the channel with his fstab earlier
[05:42] <intelikey> oooops
[05:42] <jetscreamer> that's not posting
[05:42] <jetscreamer> that's flooding
[05:42] <jetscreamer> !paste
[05:42] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:42] <GoDawgs> jetscreamer: please do not do that in here
[05:43] <jedrick> no it's not
[05:43] <Ashex> Hookay, i've Got Ubuntu installed on my external drive, in sda7, and I installed feather to sda8.
[05:43] <GoDawgs> jetscreamer: please use the paste bin located at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:43] <phantasmoholic> Anyone have experience getting dual monitors to work on ubuntu with a radeon mobility 9000 card
[05:43] <jetscreamer> yeah i'll get right on that GoDawgs ...
[05:43] <jedrick> flooding is like repeating in like 3 lines
[05:43] <Ashex> Any idea on how to add Feather Linux into the GRUB bootstrap?
[05:43] <GoDawgs> jetscreamer: It would be most appreciated.
[05:43] <jetscreamer> do what, btw
[05:43] <wastrel> !grub
[05:43] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:43] <Ashex> wastrel: thanks
[05:44] <jetscreamer> paste 'his' fstab?
[05:44] <intelikey> jedrick in #ubuntu flooding is two or more lines with no break......
[05:44] <ablyss> jedrick, just do as they ask and you will be rewarding with seven virgins in heaven
[05:44] <pulver> hey i can't find /dev/loop0 /dev/loop1 /dev/loop2 etc.. well have i messed something up??
[05:44] <jetscreamer> modporbe loop
[05:44] <jetscreamer> probe
[05:44] <stephelton> jedrick, dude its not about how many times you hit enter. dont shit on irc
[05:44] <jedrick> intelikey: k sorry i didn't know that
[05:45] <pulver> jetscreamer: thank you :)
[05:45] <stephelton> jedrick, does that look readable anyway?
[05:45] <GoDawgs> yea!  I figured out my dependency issues on my own ... without help.... I'm mighty proud of myself!
[05:45] <nf_linux> dang...Automatix is handy
[05:45] <ablyss> xbindkeys is handy
[05:45] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Were you able to recreate the error messages?
[05:46] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what now? what will i edit on my fstab
[05:46] <Xenguy> GoDawgs: I hope you used apt-get or synaptic ;-)
[05:46] <stephelton> when i hit backspace (not delete) in vim it deletes the character under the cursor (as delete would) anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:46] <GoDawgs> Xenguy: I sure did!!! :)
[05:46] <Xenguy> GoDawgs: hehe
[05:46] <GoDawgs> Xenguy: apt-get
[05:46] <GoDawgs> hehehehe
[05:46] <intelikey> GoDawgs good from now on we will expect you to solve all your problems without help.....  :)
[05:46] <jetscreamer> jedrick: use the pastebin, post your fstab
[05:47] <GoDawgs> intelikey: LOL.... yeah I wish dude... I'm not a programmer so when I do anything funky like that I get super stoked!
[05:47] <jetscreamer> jedrick: what does ls /var return also paste in there
[05:47] <Codename_V> stephelton: setty or something like that.  sorry I can't tell you the exact command though.  off the top of my head, setty erase ^B
[05:47] <jedrick> jetscreamer k
[05:47] <Xenguy> GoDawgs: go ahead, it's fun to claim victory :-)
[05:47] <Brumac> so far so good with ubuntu
[05:47] <Brumac> I like
[05:47] <chameleon> anyone know the best distro for a game-web-mail-PHpbb sever?
[05:47] <jedrick> jetscreamer: where will i paste it?
[05:47] <Jormundgand> I've replaced Metacity with Kwin due to a lack of functionality in the former, but I've found keycombos like Print Screen have stopped working. Does anyone have any advice on what I need from KDE to get Print Screen to work again?
[05:47] <jetscreamer> !paste
[05:47] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:47] <GoDawgs> :)
[05:47] <Ubeyguy> please help, ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[05:48] <Brumac> sup GoDawgs u from Jawja?
[05:48] <wastrel> Codename_V:  it's stty  or setterm
[05:48] <jetscreamer> !tell jedrick -about paste
[05:48] <Ubeyguy> when i try to do mysql -u root -p
[05:48] <Codename_V> wastrel: we're getting warmer.  =)
[05:48] <GoDawgs> Brumac: I'm not sure where that is.... so probably not... :)  I'm in So Cal, USA.
[05:48] <Brumac> oh
[05:48] <Brumac> Jawja is Georgia
[05:48] <amphi> stephelton: try :fixdel perhaps
[05:48] <Brumac> Bulldogs college football
[05:48] <GoDawgs> Brumac: ahhhhh.... why yes, then... originally from Stone Mountain...
[05:48] <GoDawgs> :)
[05:48] <tatters> sudo mysql -u root -p <yourpasswrod>
[05:49] <amphi> stephelton: you probably also want :set bs=2
[05:49] <GoDawgs> Brumac: sometimes chat doesn't make everything come through as it should :)
[05:49] <stephelton> amphi, wasn't fixdel
[05:49] <GoDawgs> Brumac: where are you from?  Georgia as well?
[05:49] <GoDawgs> wb OmegaAlpha
[05:49] <amphi> stephelton: what was it?
[05:49] <GoDawgs> jetscreamer: Again, please do not flood the channel.
[05:49] <Ubeyguy> same error
[05:49] <Ubeyguy> please help
[05:49] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, heh thanks. my laptop keeps freezing up for some reason that i have to reboot. third time within 20 minutes
[05:50] <jetscreamer> GoDawgs: now explain when i did
[05:50] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what will i paste again? all the files on my var?
[05:50] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Oh that sucks. :)
[05:50] <Evodawg> GoDawgs:  from Kennasaw Mt
[05:50] <GoDawgs> jetscreamer: Trust me, I will if you do it again.
[05:50] <jetscreamer> jedrick: you have a lot of files in var?
[05:50] <stephelton> amphi, i dunno...! set bs=2 made it delete and move backward while in normal mode (didn't affect insert mode)
[05:50] <Evodawg> years and years ago
[05:50] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: Really?  Just around the corner :)
[05:50] <Ubeyguy> tatters: same error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[05:50] <jedrick> jetscreamer: yes
[05:50] <jetscreamer> GoDawgs: try /laslog jetscreamer
[05:50] <Evodawg> GoDawgs: yep
[05:50] <jetscreamer> jedrick: why do you think you have unmounted /var?
[05:50] <Evodawg> Live in So. Cal too now
[05:50] <jmworx> Anyone can help getting the video output to work for my laptop? When I plug the output to an LCD projector, the left side of the image is cut off.
[05:50] <LiteHedded> i need easy sources
[05:50] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: I knew I loved your nick. :)
[05:50] <jetscreamer> err /lastlog
[05:50] <amphi> stephelton: is it working properly in indent mode?
[05:50] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, anyways my source list is just messed I read it, I know s.o.m. will generate a better one.
[05:51] <LiteHedded> easy sources?
[05:51] <stephelton> amphi, indent mode? which is that?
[05:51] <jedrick> jetscreamer: cause i redo my boot grub using install cd and maybe i messed it up
[05:51] <wastrel> jmworx:  you have mirroring turned on though?
[05:51] <chameleon> anyone know the best distro for a game-web-mail-PHpbb sever?
[05:51] <amphi> stephelton: er, insert mode ;)
[05:51] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i have 14 files on my /var
[05:51] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Would you like to see my sources list so you can copy and paste?  My sources work perfectly now.
[05:51] <wastrel> jmworx:  if you move the mouse over to the left edge does the desktop scroll?
[05:51] <pilgrim> Hi all. Why can't I change the ownership of a root owned file?
[05:51] <jmworx> wastrel: what do you mean by "mirroring"?
[05:51] <Codename_V> chameleon: ubuntu?  =)
[05:51] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, my question was I know when I find out about new sources it has a disclaimer about being from the U.S...
[05:51] <stephelton> amphi, well its deleting the char under the cursor, though its better
[05:51] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I can c/p for your in the paste bin.
[05:51] <jetscreamer> jedrick: do you know for a fact that you had a seperate /var partition previously?
[05:51] <Evodawg> GoDawgs: thats cool    Evo stands for Evolution as in Harley Davidson
[05:51] <LiteHedded> !easysources
[05:51] <ubotu> LiteHedded: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:51] <LiteHedded> !easy-sources
[05:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LiteHedded
[05:51] <rickyg> how do i install a package that i have on my disk ?
[05:51] <Codename_V> chameleon: seriously though.  the one you like the best.
[05:51] <wastrel> jmworx:  the lcd and the projector are shoing the same image?
[05:51] <Xenguy> pilgrim: give details
[05:51] <LiteHedded> damn anyone?
[05:51] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: That's because of licensing restrictions.
[05:51] <jmworx> wastrel: No, the left part still "exists", it's just not displayed.
[05:52] <jedrick> jetscreamer: yes
[05:52] <amphi> stephelton: have a look at :he fixdel perhaps - does bs work properly in the shell?
[05:52] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Basically, it's try at your own risk.
[05:52] <monkey-leade> hello
[05:52] <tatters> Uberguy maybe sudo su then  mysql -u root -p  <yourpassword>  I did this a hour or 2 ago but I use webmin- mysql so not sure which worked for me
[05:52] <Xenguy> !tell LiteHedded about easysource
[05:52] <jetscreamer> jedrick: ok so which hd/partition was it
[05:52] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, ok so s.o.m. wont restrict me when i enter US in the first box
[05:52] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: So you know... I use most of the ones on the list.
[05:52] <chameleon> what u mean the one i like
[05:52] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Yes, that is correct.
[05:52] <Ubeyguy> tatters: ok works now -  mysqladmin -u root password
[05:52] <jmworx> wastrel: they *should* be showing the same thing. The LCD is fine, the video output is not
[05:52] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, ok Opera and Boinc?? not needed right?
[05:52] <chameleon> what about slamPP?
[05:52] <stephelton> amphi, backspace in the : or / thing? yeah it works. if it makes a difference i'm sshe'd in ... =P
[05:52] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what you mean?.. like what. be specific please im just new to linux :(
[05:52] <monkey-leade> anyone here know howto get dsl working?
[05:52] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: hold on just a sec... I haven't forgotten about your last post.
[05:52] <Brumac> Can I play Anarchy Online in ubuntu?
[05:52] <wastrel> jmworx:  basically when i did this, the native resolution of the LCD (1400x1050) wasn't supported by the projector, so i had to drop down to 1024x768
[05:53] <jetscreamer> jedrick: and where is that fstab in the pastebin, and why do you not have a line mounting /var in it
[05:53] <pilgrim> Xenguy, drwxrwxr-x    2 root root  4096 2006-02-19 21:42 installed
[05:53] <pilgrim>    ....then i do sudo chown root:install installed/ ....but looks exactly the same (permissions and ownership).
[05:53] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Opera I do have an just installed.  Boinc I do not have and do not see a need for it.
[05:53] <jmworx> wastrel: I think it's just some kind of horizontal offset that makes the left edge disappear, but I don't know how to fix it.
[05:53] <Codename_V> Brumac: in theory
[05:53] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, i can make this one its no prob... do you have more than this? to me the more the merrier
[05:53] <Brumac> Using wine?
[05:53] <Xenguy> monkey-leade: pppoe and pppoeconf
[05:53] <Codename_V> Brumac: in theory
[05:53] <Brumac> lol
[05:53] <tatters> if it says using password yes then ure set I think, you have set a root password
[05:53] <amphi> stephelton: do you have screen on the remote box? if so, running vim in screen might help
[05:53] <monkey-leade> i know
[05:53] <jmworx> wastrel: I tried different resolutions, but the results were similar in all cases.
[05:53] <pilgrim> It's a wee bit chaotic here.
[05:53] <Codename_V> Brumac: I'd try cedega for that
[05:53] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, well i dont know what the both of them were so i was thinking of excluding
[05:53] <Brumac> that costs money
[05:53] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: One caution though, I had dependency issues a little while ago when I added the wine repos and Kubuntu repos... I had to delete them.
[05:53] <jetscreamer> jedrick that was which harddrive and partition was it
[05:53] <monkey-leade> but i want it to start at boot
[05:53] <jedrick> jetscreamer: that fstab i  just pasted is from my root /etc/fstab
[05:53] <Codename_V> Brumac: you can get a trial version free I'm thinking
[05:53] <monkey-leade> and for some reason it doesnt
[05:53] <stephelton> amphi, i do but i dont know what screen is about (or how to use it for that matter)
[05:53] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Opera is a kick butt browser. :)
[05:54] <jetscreamer> jedrick: show me the link to the paste eh
[05:54] <chameleon> what about slamPP? codename_V:?
[05:54] <Brumac> ya but I have gotten used to cracking trail versions in windows...
[05:54] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I'm a web developer so it's a must have for me.  A lot of folks really enjoy using it.
[05:54] <pianoboy3333> I have a printer problem, It won't connect, here is my printers.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8927
[05:54] <Brumac> cant do that with ubuntu
[05:54] <Codename_V> chameleon: what about it?
[05:54] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ok
[05:54] <Brumac> so...
[05:54] <wastrel> jmworx:  i have no idea in that case :] 
[05:54] <stephelton> opera is nice but i still prefer firefox
[05:54] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, oh.. hmm ill addd it then.. and I dont use KDE do kubuntu wouldnt be on it
[05:54] <GoDawgs> stephelton: I enjoy them both.
[05:54] <Codename_V> Brumac: what?  why not?
[05:54] <stephelton> GoDawgs, mmmm good point
[05:54] <jmworx> wastrel: Any idea how to tune the horizontal offset?
[05:54] <amphi> stephelton: it's a terminal multiplexor, very handy - man screen is informative
[05:54] <Xenguy> pilgrim: I dunno - is there acutally a user 'install'
[05:54] <nuu> hey room
[05:54] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Exactly.
[05:54] <chameleon> Codename_V: is it any good ?
[05:54] <Brumac> trial version will eventually end
[05:54] <GoDawgs> stephelton: the more the merrier right :)
[05:55] <amphi> nuu: er, 'channel' ;)
[05:55] <Brumac> I want something for good
[05:55] <jedrick> jetscreamer: will i paste the fstab again?
[05:55] <Codename_V> chameleon: don't look at me.
[05:55] <stephelton> amphi, ok. so i can open multiple terminals in one ssh session .. .?
[05:55] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, thats why im here :) to get my hands dirty and try a little of bit everything at the buffet. ;)
[05:55] <amphi> stephelton: exactly
[05:55] <nuu> im new to linux and was wondering how to install win32 codecs for kaffine
[05:55] <chameleon> look?
[05:55] <Codename_V> Brumac: so if it works out then buy it?
[05:55] <jetscreamer> jedrick: the pastebin should have shown you a link to give out
[05:55] <jmworx> wastrel: I tried xvidtune, but it seemed to have no effect. Perhaps there's an other way?
[05:55] <yggdrasil> anyone have any expeirience with a hp usb printer ?
[05:55] <jetscreamer> give it out
[05:55] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: Now that's really interesting... for a sec, I thought it stood for Evolution as in the PIM ;)
[05:55] <amphi> !tell nuu about w32codecs
[05:55] <stephelton> amphi, that's convenient. does it work with putty?
[05:55] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i mean what will i paste?
[05:55] <amphi> stephelton: yes
[05:55] <pilgrim> Xenguy, a group not a user, after the colon (:) comes the group not user.
[05:55] <Ubeyguy> Please help, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8935
[05:55] <stephelton> amphi, oooh i'm excited
[05:55] <jetscreamer> the fstab, jedrick
[05:55] <jedrick> jetscreamer: the file from my /var or the fstab
[05:55] <chameleon> :anyone know if slamPP is any good?
[05:55] <jetscreamer> both
[05:55] <jedrick> jetscreamer; ok
[05:55] <Codename_V> Brumac: all you need is a one month subscription, no?  what's that?  5 bucks?  you can't shell out 5 bucks?
[05:55] <jetscreamer> both jedrick
[05:55] <Ubeyguy> What permissions do i have to give?
[05:56] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, so having the developer stuff on there would be good for when i do get into it.. right now the only cpu stuff i know is c++ programming... so im trying to learn more
[05:56] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ok wait please
[05:56] <Brumac> lol
[05:56] <amphi> stephelton: short tut: ctrl-a c to create a new shell window, ctrl-a p for previous window, ctrl-a n for next
[05:56] <Xenguy> pilgrim: sorry, that's what I meant - I think I'm off to bed actually
[05:56] <Codename_V> Brumac: or maybe 3 months is minimum, but still.
[05:56] <jetscreamer> #flood has less flodding
[05:56] <jetscreamer> flooding
[05:56] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Start small for now... once you feel the "need for speed" so to speak, then dive into the developer section.  Get comfortable with Ubuntu first thought would be my recommendation.
[05:56] <nuu> i have the codecs but i can't write to the folder to install them
[05:56] <pilgrim> Xenguy, ok. good night.
[05:56] <amphi> stephelton: ctrl-d will detach screen and leave it running on the remote; you can disconnect, ssh in again, and do screen -r to reconnect to it
[05:57] <stephelton> amphi, hmm ok thats easy enough
[05:57] <nuu> i have to put them in /usr/lib
[05:57] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Don't forget.... it will always be there waiting for you. :)
[05:57] <stephelton> amphi, oooh nice, esp. on a laptop
[05:57] <nuu> but it says that i don't heve the write permissions
[05:57] <amphi> stephelton: er, ctrl-a d to detach
[05:57] <pianoboy3333> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=752229#post752229
[05:57] <intelikey> nuu  sudo
[05:57] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, thanks yeah im alot more familiar now than i was three days ago.  Im already thinking of making my icons and themes up, and somehow trying to decompile a P2P i like to use with windows to work for linux
[05:57] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: You don't waste any time do ya'? :)
[05:58] <GoDawgs> good for you!!!!
[05:58] <nuu> yeah i done that but i can't figure how to put the files in there
[05:58] <amphi> stephelton: I find screen handy for moving things like irssi between console and X here
[05:58] <jedrick> jetscreamer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8936
[05:58] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, not at all.. if it pops in my head i need to get to work.
[05:58] <monkey-leade> does apt-get automatically find/download dependencies from repository?
[05:58] <stephelton> amphi, nod
[05:58] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I've only been using it seriously since November... and I'm not anywhere CLOSE to doing those things.  But that's because I have a really anti-linux laptop... so it's all been about hardware issues for me to resolve
[05:58] <trappist> yes
[05:59] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: That's such a great attitude... the Linux community loves that!
[05:59] <GoDawgs> seriously...
[05:59] <GoDawgs> hold on a sec... I'll be right back....
[05:59] <monkey-leade> does it also figure out if ur missing them and download them?
[05:59] <stephelton> amphi, so i should run screen before ssh'ing in?
[05:59] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, heh thats what im trying to do now... i solved one hd one, one wifi one, and halfway on video card one.
[06:00] <intelikey> nuu do you want me to type the command for you?       sudo cp <file> /<dir_to_put_them_in>              or even  sudo cp -R <dir> /<dir_to_put_them_in>
[06:00] <killapop> OmegaAlpha: what laptop do you have?
[06:00] <rickyg> how do i install a package that i have on my disk ?
[06:00] <Ubeyguy> anyone that can help me?
[06:00] <amphi> stephelton: ssh in, and run screen; screen should be running on the remote, I imagine
[06:00] <jetscreamer> jedrick /var seems to be mounted as an ext3 partition
[06:00] <jetscreamer> even though it's not in your fstab
[06:00] <rickyg> i have a .deb file
[06:00] <killapop> OmegaAlpha: my laptop ubuntu install went thru absolutely smoothly
[06:00] <jedrick> jetscreamer: so what should i do?
[06:00] <stephelton> amphi, hmmm ok that'll work... i wonder what happens when i do both =P
[06:00] <amphi> stephelton: you can run nested screen sessions, but the keybindings get a bit unwieldy
[06:00] <intelikey> rickyg what package and were from ?
[06:00] <Quinch> I've got a question, or rather, an error. "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." What am I missing and where do I get it?
[06:00] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, heh i was just thinking before why Linux is so popular.. because you get challenged.  Its fun figuring out how everything works
[06:01] <jetscreamer> jedrick: what files are you saying you can look at in partition magic
[06:01] <anggels> hai..............
[06:01] <amphi> GoDawgs: what is this hostile laptop?
[06:01] <rickyg> intelikey, i have it in my disk, its wine ... .deb
[06:01] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: if you have the mindset for it...
[06:01] <jedrick> jetscreamer: all my linux files
[06:01] <yggdras> anyone can gime ahand hooking up a hp oj  all in one
[06:01] <amphi> rickyg: dpkg -i package_name will [attempt to]  install it
[06:01] <OmegaAlpha> killapop, Compaq Presario 900US AMD XP 1500+ Radeon U1 Mobility <--pain in the arse
[06:01] <GoDawgs> amphi: Compaq V2000Z completely with an ATI 200M and Broadcom 4318 (evil one) WLAN
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  ya gotta intall some package.. and it should work. i forget the name :P
[06:02] <rickyg> amphi, ok
[06:02] <yggdras> hmm
[06:02] <intelikey> rickyg better to use the package manager "synaptic" and install from the repos.   easier for all of us.
[06:02] <yggdras> dr_willistic
[06:02] <yggdras> dr_willis from synaptic ?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  'hpoj' server or somthing I recall.. for my HP1200 printer/scanner
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  of course. :P
[06:02] <jetscreamer> jedrick: where did the fstab come from then
[06:02] <yggdras> yar
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> !info hpoj
[06:02] <GoDawgs> so far i can only get the ATI card to work... the broadcom just NOW got recognized with Flight 4 but still doesn't work... i hope that it will once Dapper is officially released
[06:02] <ubotu> hpoj: (HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.91-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1336 kB
[06:02] <stephelton> amphi, i can imagine
[06:02] <yggdras>  thanks
[06:02] <anggels> hai....................
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  i was suprised at how well it worked. :P
[06:02] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, I want to learn that Python Language whatever its about if thats what the new powerful language is...
[06:02] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: It's those damned ATI cards...
[06:03] <jetscreamer> try hplij iirc
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  then the wife took her scanner back.
[06:03] <yggdras> haha
[06:03] <yggdras> well i had it sitting i garage for 4 months
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jetscreamer,  may be right. there may be 2 packages
[06:03] <yggdras> wlel see
[06:03] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I understand it's an easy language to get up to speed on.  Though honestly, I know absolutely NOTHING about it. :(
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> !info hplij
[06:03] <jetscreamer> !find hpi
[06:03] <jedrick> jetscreamer: fstab comes from the root. in /etc/fstab
[06:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'hpi' (5 shown): foomatic-db-hpijs ;; hpijs ;; hping2 ;; hping3 ;; phpix.
[06:03] <wastrel> python, there was an article about it today on digg
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> !find hpoj
[06:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'hpoj' (2 shown): hpoj ;; hpoj-xojpanel.
[06:03] <mathcaddy> I have a Toshiba 7020CT laptop (366 mhz pentium II) and I just installed ubuntu on it. Everything works GREAT -- except the screen resolution is locked in to 640x480 when it's capable of 1024x768. There are no other resolutions available besides 640x480 in the resolution settings.
[06:04] <jetscreamer> jedrick: how did you get that file if all your linux files are visible in partition magic
[06:04] <swiity_> Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:04] <OmegaAlpha> I wonder how many linux programs now already are compiled with it
[06:04] <jetscreamer> jedrick: i'm not seeing the problem yet
[06:04] <jetscreamer> or grokking
[06:04] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I'll all about the bleeding edge.... so giving bug info and trying to help people in the chat channels is how i"m trying to contribute to the community which I adore.  With your programming skills, I see you helping with the kernel in no time!
[06:04] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   (at the command line)   then log out & in again
[06:04] <FlannelKing> mathcaddy, how much RAM do you have on it? (not that it would affect your resolution)
[06:04] <Luna> hey there
[06:04] <amphi> GoDawgs: did you get it up and limping along? ;)
[06:04] <Evodawg> <----- My email signature  "You can lead them to LINUX but you can't make them THINK" If you tore down the WALLS you would not need WINDOWS or GATES!!!  HAHAH
[06:04] <mathcaddy> wastrel: thanks I'll try that! :-)
[06:04] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  python is an interpreted language.
[06:05] <Luna> can anyone tell me how to enable fast writes on my AGP card?
[06:05] <GoDawgs> amphi: Which one are you referring to?  The broadcom?
[06:05] <mathcaddy> FlannelKing: 192 mb (which is the max)
[06:05] <jetscreamer> no because you didn't say which vid card
[06:05] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: that's a GREAT siggie
[06:05] <Luna> sorry
[06:05] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ?
[06:05] <FlannelKing> mathcaddy, you're lucky, Ive got an older one thats too slow for ubuntu with 40mb ;)
[06:05] <amphi> GoDawgs: the whole thing
[06:05] <jetscreamer> jedrick: are you running the linux atm?
[06:05] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, heh from sitting in here and reading others situations as well is awesome. find out alot of info
[06:06] <jedrick> jetscreamer: no, im on my windows
[06:06] <intelikey> too slow for ubuntu ?
[06:06] <amphi> GoDawgs: I had a quick look at linux-laptop.net and tuxmobil.org, but the nearest similar model I found had very different hw
[06:06] <GoDawgs> amphi: actually the interpretation of the video card is working quite well.... and the wlan card, well at least it's being recognized.  I'm just waiting for the driver to be perfected.
[06:06] <Luna> Nvidia 6200
[06:06] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I know... it's a wealth of fantastic knowledge
[06:06] <killapop> I use a Toshiba Satellite A10.... the only problems i had with hardware was with the wireless
[06:06] <amphi> GoDawgs: a howto for your laptop would be appreciated, I'm sure
[06:06] <jetscreamer> nvidia, you add to /etc/modules  nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8 or so
[06:07] <GoDawgs> amphi: they also offer the V2000 with intel wlan and such...
[06:07] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, do alot of programs use it currently?
[06:07] <swiity_> Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:07] <killapop> amphi: there is quite a lot of laptop-how-tos on the ubuntuforums site
[06:07] <GoDawgs> amphi: i hate intel with a passion so I always go with other great companies such as AMD (which I have the Turion64) ... its great!
[06:07] <amphi> GoDawgs: yeah, that's what I found - intel wifi and video card
[06:07] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  python is sortof like perl, it's a scripting language.  there are gui toolkits that use python, and it's popular for web programming.  i don't think a lot of linux sw is written in it...
[06:07] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, alot of times its like hmmm i why didnt i think of that or oh good someone else has a problem like mine. but they already had my prob and then tell me how to fix it
[06:07] <jetscreamer> jedrick: ok so why do you not have a line for /var in the fstab anymore
[06:08] <mathcaddy> wastrel: any idea how much memory I should tell it to use?
[06:08] <GoDawgs> amphi: Yeah, I didn't have the slightest interest in Linux at the time so I didn't know that I needed other hardware to be LInux friendly... I do now!  Live and learn...
[06:08] <eobanb> swiity_, if you don't have anything useful to say, then leave.
[06:08] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  typically that's left blank iirc
[06:08] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: And that's what good community is for....
[06:08] <Luna> jetscreamer: Thanks..is it necessary to restart the system, or just X?
[06:08] <jetscreamer> luna i believe i read reboot, the modules need to be reloaded.
[06:08] <jetscreamer> but not positive
[06:08] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, yep so on this source o matic. does it lack any other packages i should add?
[06:09] <amphi> GoDawgs: intel are being pretty good about the ipw2200 driver
[06:09] <Luna> all right. Thanls
[06:09] <jetscreamer> Luna: you may need to make sure agpgart and...
[06:09] <drcode> hi all
[06:09] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: You know, I'm not sure.  At the moment, I don't think so.  You'd actually need to compare repo lists with others and find out why they use the different ones you don't have.
[06:09] <jetscreamer> any other isn't loaded, and put in xorg.conf... one moment...
[06:09] <Evodawg> Waiting for Intel's Nano Processor
[06:09] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: That's my best recommendation.  I'm really sorry!
[06:09] <jedrick> jetscreamer: dunno, maybe i mess it up when i redo boot grub and i remember that i change some settings on disk partiton, the / swap and /var, i think i change the /var into /boot.
[06:09] <drcode> any one know how I can optmize Jpeg in linux , I want to change into 1 bit color and size?
[06:09] <intelikey> r&r kernel modules,  safest to reboot, but not always nessary
[06:10] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: No offense, but Intel can kiss my fat... a$$
[06:10] <GoDawgs> :)
[06:10] <intelikey> es
[06:10] <jetscreamer> 	Option		"RenderAccel"		"True"
[06:10] <jetscreamer>         Option		"NoLogo"		"True"
[06:10] <jetscreamer> 	Option		"NvAGP"			"1"
[06:10] <amphi> drcode: gimp if you want gui, or imagemagick if you don't
[06:10] <eobanb> drocode, The GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Programme) will be able to do it.
[06:10] <jetscreamer> in the device section for the card
[06:10] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i redo the boot grub cause i can't boot to my linux when i install a fresh installation on windows
[06:10] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: Have you heard their latest scheme to edge out AMD?
[06:10] <Evodawg> you won't say that when it comes out with the Nano
[06:10] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, its cool thanks for the help though. You've done well soldier!. haha
[06:10] <eobanb> drcode*
[06:10] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: Oh I certainly will!
[06:10] <Luna> jetscreamer: Yes. I have those.
[06:10] <jetscreamer> jedrick: grub has nothing to do with fstab
[06:10] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Not bad for a girl, huh? :)
[06:10] <amphi> drcode: jpeg will not do 1bit 'colour'
[06:10] <tuxcicles> i noticed inet is not running, doesn't ubuntu run inetd natively?
[06:10] <drcode> 4 bit
[06:10] <intelikey> jetscreamer where'd you learn to flood like that ?  form jedrick ?
[06:11] <jetscreamer> nah from GoDawgs
[06:11] <drcode> is there command that I can optimize it?
[06:11] <jetscreamer> :) sorry
[06:11] <eobanb> drcode, with 4-bit colour you're probably better off using GIF or PNG.
[06:11] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: They've collaborated with Skype to offer certain conference functions to ONLY INTEL users......
[06:11] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, pssh I would figure girls are better at computers than guys are...
[06:11] <amphi> GoDawgs: what is it? not Itanic again ;)
[06:11] <Evodawg> it will make the AMD  look like its standing still
[06:11] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha:  I can't say that... I just know that girl Linux users are few and far between. :)
[06:11] <jetscreamer> jedrick: your /var seems to be a seperate partition
[06:12] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: I didn't catch that....
[06:12] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what shall i do then?
[06:12] <amphi> Evodawg: what is this wonder?
[06:12] <drcode> its software that still I need jpg
[06:12] <jetscreamer> jedrick: cat /proc/mounts
[06:12] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, they have the higher resistance to pain threshold :) and better patience
[06:12] <intelikey> but that's cause linux is so geekie
[06:12] <jetscreamer> in an xterm... ah heck no linux
[06:12] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: LOL .... :)
[06:12] <drcode> eobanb: do U know how I can optmize it?
[06:12] <jetscreamer> oh wait....
[06:12] <drcode> I Have lots of jpeg
[06:12] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Patience?  Oh, I don't think so...... at least not from this one. :)
[06:12] <aranis> dapper/flight-4 = daily/current? the timestamps seem right
[06:12] <djmccormick_> i realize this is probably asked often, though i'm looking for a more reliable method than i've used in the past. i have a lot of mp3 music that isn't going to be able to be switched to an open format. is there an easy way to play these formats that won't ruin my 5.10 install?
[06:12] <jetscreamer> you're not in linux so it's not mounted.
[06:12] <amphi> drcode: jpeg will not do < 8bpp, I'm not sure it'll even do 16bpp
[06:13] <jedrick> jetscreamer: can i just point it to var using a live cd.
[06:13] <drcode> I see
[06:13] <Evodawg> Intel has been working on a nano processor for years and their getting close
[06:13] <stephelton> amphi, hmmm when i use screen and do vim and hit [end]  it gives me the "Wuff Wuff" routine and then both increments the cursor position and capitalizes the last one... wtf?!
[06:13] <tatters_> intellkey  I am getting error "cannot write to ice" thats seem to be stopping me logging in any idea?
[06:13] <drcode> it mean in creating it?
[06:13] <amphi> stephelton: heh
[06:13] <wastrel> !mp3
[06:13] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:13] <amphi> stephelton: use ctrl-e for end ;)
[06:13] <jetscreamer> jedrick: ok so which partition is it that holds your /var... hda8? hda3?
[06:13] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: I'm sure it'll be kick butt... I'm not picking on their technology, I'm picking on their business practices and find them repulsive.
[06:13] <stephelton> amphi, oh )= thats a nuisance
[06:14] <eps> trappist if you don't want me to be an arsehole try this: pay me.  I only take rubbish from end users like you when I'm being paid for it, get some manors and realise the community supports you out of their own time and resources.
[06:14] <amphi> stephelton: bad terminfo on the remote?
[06:14] <jedrick> jetscreamer: hda4
[06:14] <stephelton> amphi, huh?
[06:14] <Evodawg> its suppose to be 1000 times faster than the fastest processor today
[06:14] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, this laptop i have... if only i could write a program to tell it how close it came to being flung off the wall many times lol
[06:14] <jedrick> jetscreamer: oh it's hda6 cause my root is hda5
[06:14] <amphi> stephelton: ncurses terminfo - you might need to install putty terminfo, or change putty's term emulation perhaps; it's been a while since I used putty
[06:14] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: but is it the lappie or the OS? :)
[06:15] <crouchingMonkey> can anyone tell me how to get xchat to join #ubuntu after connecting to the server? (dont feel like typing ./j #ubuntu every time)
[06:15] <jetscreamer> but hda6 says swap
[06:15] <jetscreamer> jedrick:
[06:15] <drcode> k
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, oh i'm not using putty atm
[06:15] <drcode> thanx
[06:15] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: the closest I've come to that was due to Winblows....
[06:15] <jedrick> jetscreamer: then it's hda7
[06:15] <amphi> stephelton: what are you running it in?
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, i  use putty when i'm at work...
[06:15] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: But I totally see where you're coming from.... :)
[06:15] <Evodawg> GoDawgs:  everyone is making deals at the moment
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, a shell running on xorg on arch linux
[06:15] <jetscreamer> jedrick: /dev/hda7       /boot           ext3    defaults        0       2
[06:15] <jetscreamer> gah
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, eterm to be exact
[06:16] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: And they aren't all evil........ you know what I mean?
[06:16] <Evodawg> But I'm hoping open source will kick in there someday
[06:16] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, most likly windows. even though the peice of shh.Plastic likes to get hot and turn off..well hasnt yet with linux :)
[06:16] <amphi> stephelton: what terminal emulator?
[06:16] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: It's one thing to "one up" your competition but to screw the end users is ridiculous.
[06:16] <wastrel> stephelton:  you're using putty?  you should have said that.  i belive putty has settings for "backspace sends delet" and "delete sends backspace" or similar
[06:16] <jedrick> jetscreamer: then it's hda8
[06:16] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Yeah, I get the heat thing too... sucks major butt
[06:16] <amphi> stephelton: xterm? rxvt? gnome-terminal?
[06:16] <Evodawg> its starting to make it's impact
[06:16] <Lil-Abner> Hi all. I just upgraded my main computer and I'm new at all this stuff, can anyone tell me if the thermal grease is already on an AMD Sempron PIB?
[06:16] <stephelton> wastrel, no i'm not using putty, but i do frequently
[06:16] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, ok on the source.list once i save the new one and run sudo apt-get update will it download and install anything because everything is already installed.. i guess
[06:16] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: mine hasn't shut off though.... i'm really good at keeping it low temp with a teeny tiny fan
[06:17] <stephelton> amphi, eterm
[06:17] <stephelton> amphi, oh emulator?
[06:17] <amphi> stephelton: perhaps try xterm or rxvt
[06:17] <pianoboy3333> I need printer help, I have an hp LaserJet 1000 connected to a Dell with XP, the GUI won't detect it, help?
[06:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick, if it's really hda8, add  /dev/hda8  /boot  ext3  defaults  0  4  to your fstab
[06:17] <jetscreamer> err
[06:17] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I'm not following... let me reread.
[06:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick, if it's really hda8, add  /dev/hda8  /var  ext3  defaults  0  4  to your fstab
[06:17] <amphi> stephelton: FWIW, mrxvt is very nice
[06:17] <stephelton> amphi, as in ... i'm confused... on the client i'm ssh'ing in from i'm using eterm. is that what you're asking?
[06:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick: how did your fstab get changed
[06:17] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ?
[06:17] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: No.  When you run apt-get update... it updates your repositories so that you CAN download programs.
[06:18] <amphi> GoDawgs: you have cpu freq scaling running there?
[06:18] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, will there be conflicts is what im saying if it happens to install or place a file that already exists...
[06:18] <intelikey> he has a /boot entry already....
[06:18] <jetscreamer> add /dev/hda7       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4
[06:18] <Evodawg> does Ubuntu use Cups
[06:18] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: You see what i Mean?
[06:18] <jetscreamer> err 8
[06:18] <amphi> stephelton: yeah
[06:18] <jedrick> jetscreamer: dunno maybe when i run the winmac_fstab file
[06:18] <GoDawgs> amphi: I don't think so.
[06:18] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, ok thats what i thought. just wanted to make sure
[06:18] <tatters_> I am getting error "cannot write to ice" it is  stopping me logging iin to desktop but failsafe terminal still works any idea how to fix this?
[06:18] <amphi> GoDawgs: also, undervolting your processor can help heat a lot
[06:18] <jetscreamer> add /dev/hda8  /var  ext3  defaults  0 4
[06:18] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i will add /dev/hda7       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4  ?
[06:18] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: There could be.  I had them.  So I deleted the Kubuntu repos and reran apt-get update and was just peachy,
[06:18] <jetscreamer> jedrick: change the 7 to whichever it is
[06:19] <jetscreamer> or the 8
[06:19] <phantasmoholic> Anyone using radeon mobility 9000 graphics card able to help me out
[06:19] <GoDawgs> amphi: Oh really?  I didn't know that.  How would one do that?
[06:19] <jetscreamer> jedrick: if it's not ext3, change that to auto
[06:19] <Will78> has anyone in here upgraded CentOS 3.5 to 4.2 my friend is getting flamed in #centos by their staff
[06:19] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what if i change both to /var is it ok?
[06:19] <intelikey> "winmac_fstab"  probably so
[06:19] <amphi> GoDawgs: I got mine down from >70C under load to max 50C
[06:19] <jetscreamer> no
[06:19] <GoDawgs> phantasmoholic: I have an ATI 200m..... will that help?
[06:19] <stephelton> amphi, mrxvt is nice, though i wont remember that name 10 minutes from now
[06:19] <GoDawgs> amphi: Impressive!
[06:19] <jedrick> jetscreamer: it's ext3
[06:19] <jetscreamer> jedrick: just add the line, and if it's not 8, put the correct number
[06:20] <jetscreamer> don't have two saying hda7 (for now)
[06:20] <fufo> how can i know who are using a file??
[06:20] <Lil-Abner> I've got my computer put back together, but it won't boot up at all. No screen of any kind.
[06:20] <trappist> fufo: lsof
[06:20] <jetscreamer> fufo: lsof maybe
[06:20] <jetscreamer> :( slow
[06:20] <intelikey> fufo lsof | grep file
[06:20] <amphi> GoDawgs: this is a pentium m, there's a patch that makes the cpu freq/voltage table configurable by sysfs - dunno if there's an equiv for your proc
[06:20] <intelikey> fufo lsof | grep <file>
[06:20] <Lil-Abner> I'm using my spare computer for now.
[06:20] <GoDawgs> amphi: well, i'll definitely check
[06:20] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i'll add this one?  /dev/hda7       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4
[06:21] <fufo> oks, thanks
[06:21] <mathcaddy> wastrel: no luck. It's still 630x480. It even detected 1024x768 as a default and didn't even want to keep 800x600 or 640x480 as options! I restarted it and the same result. Also: it has a black empty area on the right side and on the bottom.
[06:21] <jetscreamer> jedrick: make it /dev/hda8 since you said it was on hda8
[06:21] <pianoboy3333> !printer
[06:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:21] <pianoboy3333> !smb
[06:21] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pianoboy3333
[06:21] <jetscreamer> jedrick: but yeah
[06:21] <jetscreamer> !samba
[06:21] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:21] <jedrick> jetscreamer: so i'll add this one?  /dev/hda8       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4
[06:21] <amphi> GoDawgs: I use mprime in torture mode for testing - if the voltage is too low, it should report errors quickly, or crash, or the kernel will panic
[06:21] <GoDawgs> amphi: there probably is a patch for the AMD... I'll definitely check... thanks for the heads up!
[06:21] <phantasmoholic> Anyone able to help me configure a dual head monitor setup on a radeon mobility 9000
[06:21] <GoDawgs> amphi: you're quite skilled....
[06:21] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yes, and if it's really on hda8, and has your /var files, it should function
[06:22] <pianoboy3333> I need printer help, I have an hp LaserJet 1000 connected to a Dell with XP, the GUI won't detect it, help?
[06:22] <tatters_> intelikey: any idea how to get write access on bootup for "ICE"?
[06:22] <amphi> GoDawgs: I did that for each freq my proc supports, and found a stable value by trial and error
[06:22] <pianoboy3333> HELP!'
[06:22] <GoDawgs> amphi: I'm not nearly as ambitious as you are
[06:22] <GoDawgs> amphi: I'm quiet impressed. :)
[06:22] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what if it's not?
[06:22] <yggdras> how do i add a user to access su ?
[06:22] <jedrick> jetscreamer: change to hda7
[06:22] <jetscreamer> jedrick: change the 8 to the correct #
[06:22] <amphi> GoDawgs: I just happened on a howto at the thinkpad wiki
[06:22] <Evodawg> pianoboy3333:   try cups  if ubuntu supports it
[06:22] <jetscreamer> jedrick: you already have a line for hda7
[06:22] <intelikey> tatters_ where prezactly ?
[06:22] <GoDawgs> amphi: right on
[06:22] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  yuck!  ok what video card do you have?
[06:22] <mathcaddy> wastrel: neomagic
[06:23] <Evodawg> not sure I'm a Mandriva guy
[06:23] <mathcaddy> wastrel: it's detecting it correctly.
[06:23] <jetscreamer> jedrick: and your /boot is needed, so it's probably not hda7
[06:23] <jedrick> jetscreamer: so only the 8 or so on
[06:23] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I have an HP 1200.....
[06:23] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yeah or just trial & error, if 8 don't work, try 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.....
[06:23] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: can I see ur /etc/cups/printers.conf file? put it in the pastebin or something
[06:23] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: You can use Samba too... if the Dell machine is not what you're using.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> you can use the gnome-cups config tool to set up windows shared printers...
[06:24] <jetscreamer> jedrick: next time just use one partiton or lvm
[06:24] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ok
[06:24] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: I'll do what ever if it works, I have samba installed
[06:24] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I just did a reinstall... I haven't added it yet.  I upgraded to Dapper through Flight 4 image.
[06:24] <amphi> GoDawgs: the voltages are different for each processor, if your unlucky you will not be able to reduce much - I could not reduce as much as some claim to have
[06:24] <intelikey> quack my fellow manduck
[06:24] <tatters_> well after I did the command you gave I cannot login to any desktop I am getting "cannot write to ice" error but can only access fail safe terminal
[06:24] <yggdras> how do i add a user to access su ?
[06:24] <tatters_> everything loads normally just cannot get any desktop
[06:24] <jetscreamer> tatters: you have some old tmp file or root pwned your ~
[06:24] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: hold on a sec... i'm looking up something for you
[06:24] <jetscreamer> iirc
[06:25] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  check this for your video, seems to be the same prob you're describing   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32651&highlight=neomagic
[06:25] <Evodawg> tatters tried   login as startx/
[06:25] <intelikey> tatters_ do you get a gdm login prompt or does xserver fail ?
[06:25] <tatters_> I know have gnome and kde desktop but both fail to load becuase I have no write access to "ICE
[06:25] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: have you seen this?  http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1000
[06:25] <jedrick> jetscreamer: will i just add /dev/hda8       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4  . at the bottom?
[06:25] <pianoboy3333> no lemme look
[06:25] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yeah or wherever
[06:25] <tatters_> I get gnome and kde login screen
[06:25] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333:  towards the middle of the page should be your solution
[06:26] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ok
[06:26] <ipfw> its amazing how this net can be so slow IRC is the only thing that still works :P
[06:26] <jetscreamer> oh boy
[06:26] <mathcaddy> wastrel: wow. you're incredible. yeah. that's exactly what I'm experiencing. I've been digging around in the forums for a couple hours and couldn't find anything. I didn't think to search for the driver name. (duh!) I'll check this out. thanks.
[06:27] <intelikey> tatters_  go to a terminal and  "rm ./.*authority"     then login normal    you ran something with sudo in the gui didn't you ?
[06:27] <jetscreamer> it's .ICEauthority iirc
[06:27] <jetscreamer> there's another as well... .Xauth or so
[06:27] <tatters_> dunno I did exactly what u said in regards to that kdissert  package
[06:28] <intelikey> tatters_ it's a lock file telling on you for using sudo <gui_app> in place of  gksudo <gui_app>   :)
[06:28] <tatters_> I dunno is it?
[06:28] <tatters_> and that means ?
[06:28] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: i don't know what I'm looking for....
[06:29] <stephelton> amphi, it would appear that the backspace issue was eterm's fault... now if i can configure mrxvt to use a smaller font i'll be good to go
[06:29] <wastrel> eterm heh i used to use that
[06:29] <stephelton> amphi, thanks for your help
[06:29] <tatters_> so I go to terminal and type "rm ./.*authority"
[06:29] <stephelton> =P
[06:29] <wastrel> i like aterm better tho
[06:29] <stephelton> aterm eh
[06:30] <intelikey> just means that you don't own the lock file so you cant remove or write to it....    it's a safty precaution...  just remove   /home/tatters/.*authority   and you should be fine as frogs hair split four ways.
[06:30] <tatters_> lol
[06:30] <aranis> anyone working with dapper/flight-4 have any problems with reiserfs?
[06:30] <stephelton> so many terminals )=
[06:31] <billwray> can anyone assist with installing dapper...already running breezy
[06:31] <wastrel> stephelton:  i broke down and started using gnome-terminal once i abandoned windowmaker
[06:31] <wastrel> stephelton:  now i'm addicted to the tabs
[06:31] <stephelton> wastrel, ew.
[06:31] <intelikey> !upgrade
[06:31] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:31] <aranis> what stephelton said :-)
[06:32] <stephelton> wastrel, thats why i'm kind of liking mrxvt
[06:32] <intelikey> !upgrade to dapper
[06:32] <Jormundgand> (gnome-screenshot:20823): gnome-vfs-modules-WARNING **: Failed to create client: Daemon not running
[06:32] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:32] <Jormundgand> !dapper
[06:32] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[06:32] <jsgotangco> hmm
[06:32] <jsgotangco> do we have a list of boot parameters?
[06:32] <stephelton> wastrel, i gave up gnome a long time ago and i'll never turn back
[06:32] <mebaran151> I have a Realtek 8139 ethernet
[06:32] <Jormundgand> (gnome-screenshot:20823): gnome-vfs-modules-WARNING **: Failed to create client: Daemon not running <-- what daemon?
[06:32] <mebaran151> card
[06:32] <intelikey> well there is an info node on it some place....
[06:32] <mebaran151> compared to the onbaord nforce4 ethernet
[06:32] <mebaran151> will the performacne be abysmal?
[06:33] <amphi> mebaran151: 8139 is not _that_ bad
[06:33] <eugman> what text to speech options are available? I am perfectly capable of reading but I have a bulk of information I need to get through and I would prefer to be able to listen to it all.
[06:33] <tatters_> sry intelikey can u post that command again there is cache when  i log  back on to terminal :/
[06:33] <mebaran151> I only have a 10/100 network anyway, but will there terrible performance ramifications
[06:33] <amphi> eugman: festival is one
[06:33] <mebaran151> can I stream DivX over my LAN over it?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  'festival' is a text->speach prog
[06:33] <tatters_> forgot to write it down
[06:33] <billwray> i've made several .iso cd for dapper. Can't get them to boot. Booting fromc cd doesn't seem possible till the linux kernel is loaded, then it's too late
[06:33] <amphi> mebaran151: I'd say so
[06:33] <eugman> k
[06:33] <stephelton> mebaran151, yeah
[06:33] <mebaran151> the nforce4 stupid card has ActiveArmor, which just makes my life hell
[06:34] <stephelton> mebaran151, you using a hub?
[06:34] <mebaran151> nope
[06:34] <amphi> mebaran151: wtf is that?
[06:34] <mebaran151> switch
[06:34] <intelikey> tatters_   sudo rm /home/tatters/.*authority
[06:34] <stephelton> mebaran151, you should be ok then
[06:34] <amphi> mebaran151: 8139too module works well
[06:34] <tatters_> k thnx
[06:34] <intelikey> err the sudo is not needed i think
[06:34] <mebaran151> amphi, they built a hardware firewall in it
[06:34] <mebaran151> I have a pretty solid hardware firewall
[06:34] <mebaran151> so I don't need it
[06:34] <stephelton> mebaran151, gigabit wouldn't hurt though ;)
[06:34] <intelikey> i think you'll already be root.
[06:34] <mebaran151> but it's very helpful; it filters ping and dhcp
[06:34] <jetscreamer> sudo chown -R tatters:tatters /home/tatters
[06:34] <amphi> mebaran151: great :(
[06:34] <mebaran151> and causes me intense pain
[06:35] <intelikey> but in any case tatters_ thats the command.
[06:35] <mebaran151> and only windows knows how to tell it to connect to anything
[06:35] <mebaran151> it was a pretty spiffy performer though
[06:35] <zebraFusion> suppose I had a bunch of files... files1, files2, file3, ect in a folder... and wanted to rename all of them all with the same structure, like songfile1, songfile2, is that possible?
[06:35] <zebraFusion> with one command... I mean
[06:35] <mebaran151> zebraFusion, I think rename does that
[06:35] <amphi> zebraFusion: man rename
[06:35] <zebraFusion> using mv file newfFileName
[06:36] <mebaran151> or search apt, tons of programs have been written to do crazy things like
[06:36] <zebraFusion> meh, oh well.
[06:36] <mebaran151> zebraFusion, you can name them by tag with easytag...
[06:36] <wisie> hey guys, just wondering if anyone could take a look at this paste? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8938  i seem to get that error often when i try anything to do wiht mysql.. (just tryting to get it going for first time)
[06:36] <intelikey> zebraFusion yep
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> 'rename' command is for tasks like that - I do belive.
[06:36] <amphi> zebraFusion: or for i in file*; do mv $i song$i; done
[06:37] <darthbutcher> Anyone here use the new Dapper Drake release?
[06:37] <darthbutcher> I am about to switch to it.
[06:37] <stephelton> i hate to be a noob... but can anyone hint me as to how i'd change the font size in aterm?
[06:38] <yggdrasil> ok guys
[06:38] <billwray> can boot the new dapper cd before the existing linux kernel loads
[06:39] <intelikey> zebrafusion   find $BASEDIR -type f -name *$OLDEXT -uid $UID -exec fix.ext --work "{}" "$OLDEXT" "$NEWEXT" \;   <---  you would need to replace the  $VERIABKES with real information.  but that will do what you are talking about recursively  and if you only want one dir that is much easier.
[06:39] <billwray> cannot boot...
[06:39] <wastrel> stephelton:  seems like alt->  and  alt-<  to change font size
[06:40] <zebraFusion> intelikey, you're crazy. Thanks.
[06:40] <GoDawgs> Belly full.  Mama happy.
[06:40] <jetscreamer> billwray: sounds like it's not booting from the cd
[06:40] <intelikey> lol  don't mention it...
[06:40] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: Did you see the PM I sent you?
[06:40] <billwray> right
[06:40] <bshumate> wisie: you'll get an error like that if there is already a password set for the user (root, in your example there) and you are not supplying it with the '-p' switch.
[06:40] <darthbutcher> I am going to try something extremely odd.
[06:40] <rjcute> hi
[06:40] <jetscreamer> billwray: so it's either the cd or the bios boot setting
[06:40] <intelikey> please, really; don't ever mention it again.
[06:40] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: no, I can't recieve PM's i'm not registred
[06:40] <Ashex> !grub
[06:40] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:40] <ipfw> wastrel, starting to get the hang of this ubuntu stuff, and what scares me is -- I think I like it ;)
[06:41] <stephelton> wastrel, dont think so
[06:41] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: oh well then that would be a problem... i have a solution (I think)
[06:41] <tatters_> intelikey: I got a desktop again :)
[06:41] <ipfw> !tor
[06:41] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ipfw
[06:41] <wastrel> stephelton:  heh just reading the man page :] 
[06:41] <mebaran151> is the onbaord Realtek 8139 ethernet far worse than the nforce4 solutions
[06:41] <billwray> tried cmd line boot but kernel has to be loaded first
[06:41] <mebaran151> they're both built in my mainboard
[06:41] <ipfw> hmm
[06:41] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: looks like there was a bug in breezy... but apparently there is a fix... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/foo2zjs/+bug/6017
[06:41] <intelikey> tatters_ np.
[06:41] <jetscreamer> billwray: use the kernel on the cd
[06:41] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: try that
[06:41] <wisie> bshumate: interesting, if I was to remove sql and reinstall it and start a frresh would I be able to reset a password for it?
[06:41] <mebaran151> and I was wondering if it was worth the effort to scour teh bios for a way to disable app armor
[06:41] <tatters_> yah thnx
[06:41] <pianoboy3333> ok
[06:41] <amphi> mebaran151: dunno anything about the nforce thing, but 8139 is quite usable
[06:41] <billwray> can you tell me how?
[06:42] <tatters_> can u explain in laymens terms kinda what happened there?
[06:42] <rjcute> da
[06:42] <stephelton> wastrel, ohh... there's a concept ;)
[06:42] <rjcute> hi to all fuckerssssssssssssssss
[06:42] <wastrel> stephelton:  how about shift & numpad +/-
[06:42] <amphi> mebaran151: it puts a bit more load on the cpu than say an intel
[06:42] <jetscreamer> tatters: root pwned your homedir.
[06:42] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: get the .deb?
[06:42] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: then dpkg -i?
[06:42] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I believe so.
[06:43] <slide> How can i see what version of a package i have installed (the package bin doesnt have a 'version' argument)
[06:43] <rjcute> eqe
[06:43] <billwray> i em stupid
[06:43] <rjcute> hi
[06:43] <rjcute> fuck u allllllllllll
[06:43] <intelikey> you issued some command (it's probably in your .bash_history file) that called a gui app via sudo which in turn set the .ICEauthority file  i.e. it was owned by root so your user could no longer access it.
[06:43] <jetscreamer> billwray: the kernel is there, grub can do it. but no i don't know anything about how livecd's are structured. you either have a bum cd, or the bios isn't set to boot from cdrom first.
[06:43] <Evodawg> slide: package -ver
[06:43] <intelikey> tatter_ ^
[06:43] <stephelton> wastrel, i'm on a laptop (no numpad)
[06:44] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: to actually implement the .deb file, I'm unfortunately not the one to go to.
[06:44] <billwray> jetscreamer: thankyou
[06:44] <slide> Evodawg, ty
[06:44] <pianoboy3333> kk
[06:44] <jetscreamer> billwray: i've noticed sometimes that linux cd burning solutions don't quite cut it.
[06:44] <tatters_> So theres been no major system wide change that command had reveresed the affect?
[06:44] <GoDawgs> rjcute: Please ... language like that is not tolerated.
[06:44] <amphi> pianoboy3333: dpkg -i package_name will install the deb, or try to
[06:44] <wastrel> stephelton:  that's a stumper :]    you can specify font strings with command line args and in the config file.
[06:44] <GoDawgs> rjcute: If you have a question, please ask it.
[06:45] <chris_> Wow!  I made it.  I install Ubuntu!  Yeahhhh!
[06:45] <stephelton> wastrel, config file is good... would it be ~/.atermrc or something like that?
[06:45] <bshumate> wisie: you don't necessarily have to do that- there are other ways to reset the password.
[06:45] <jetscreamer> heh
[06:45] <intelikey> tatters_ all we have done on your system tonight is correct a "user specific" permissions error.   no system wide anything.
[06:45] <mebaran151> as I've been waiting in windows dll'ing the dapper iso
[06:45] <mebaran151> I've noticed, Netscape 8.0 is really nice
[06:45] <tatters_> ok ,well thnx for your time and knowledge intelikey again much appricated
[06:46] <intelikey>  tatters_  as far as i have been involved anyway.
[06:46] <jetscreamer> mebaran151: very mozilla like, wouldn't you say?
[06:46] <mebaran151> there should be Netscape for Linux; I know that it's Mozilla deep down
[06:46] <tatters_> happy u could pull me out the mire
[06:46] <amphi> heh
[06:46] <jetscreamer> try the 'classic' skin
[06:46] <rjcute> hi fuck ur selffffffffffffffffffff
[06:46] <mebaran151> but the gui is nicer
[06:46] <mebaran151> oh
[06:46] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I have to get going...  but I will be back on later.  I'll talk with you later.
[06:46] <jetscreamer> hey same to ya bud
[06:46] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: kk
[06:46] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[06:46] <amphi> !ops
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[06:46] <chris_> hello
[06:46] <jetscreamer> !lart bob2
[06:46] <intelikey>  tatters_ the good thing is, if you ever run into the same problem again, you "should" remember how to address it.
[06:46] <jetscreamer> darn
[06:47] <GoDawgs> amphi: I can't kick him..... I don't see anyone here who can.
[06:47] <amphi> heh
[06:47] <tatters_> yes theres the rub , remebering everything
[06:47] <Inf3ctedFx> I have some issue with my wireless . its a laptop... ubuntu recognize the wireless fine... I was connected before using wireless not I can't make it work... anybody has an idea?
[06:47] <amphi> GoDawgs: /ignore -replies is always there, the beloved oubliette
[06:47] <GoDawgs> amphi: I like your style. :)
[06:47] <intelikey>  tatters_  that's what .bash_history is for.... :)
[06:47] <jetscreamer> that's why microsoft gives away pads of paper with their logo on it
[06:47] <jetscreamer> or that
[06:47] <tatters_> :)
[06:48] <GoDawgs> Goodnight everyone. :)
[06:48] <jetscreamer> no bash history
[06:48] <jetscreamer> in windows
[06:48] <wastrel> stephelton:  hmm actually i don't see anything in the man file for that
[06:48] <mebaran151> whoa; Java IRC is nice
[06:48] <tatters_> yah I keep forgetting to save it when I reinstall :P
[06:48] <amphi> mebaran151: ugh ;)
[06:48] <mebaran151> using the Hedinux Java IRC webclient
[06:48] <jetscreamer> save /home
[06:48] <tatters_> is that contained in the home folder?
[06:48] <jetscreamer> yeah
[06:48] <mebaran151> they should include this in Ubuntu as well
[06:48] <intelikey> jetscreamer sure there is.  install bash for windows and it keeps a history file.....
[06:48] <jetscreamer> .bash_history
[06:48] <bshumate> wisie: did you try completely removing mysql and reinstalling already? that may get what you need in a sledgehammer to a thumbtack sort of way. ;-)
[06:48] <tatters_> gotcha
[06:49] <amphi> mebaran151: irssi forever ;)
[06:49] <mcquaid> anyone find locate isn't reliable?
[06:49] <wisie> bshumate, mind if i pm for a sec?
[06:49] <mebaran151> amphi, I like irssi too
[06:49] <mebaran151> but is there irssi for win?
[06:49] <mcquaid> from time to time, it doesn't index files
[06:49] <amphi> mcquaid: you have to updatedb
[06:49] <bshumate> wisie: sure thing
[06:49] <mcquaid> i know, it's a cron job i run nightly
[06:49] <mcquaid> i mean files that have been there for months sometimes don't get indexed
[06:50] <mcquaid> really annoying
[06:50] <trkorecky> What do I do with a .jar file?
[06:50] <amphi> mcquaid: I've never noticed that
[06:50] <intelikey> mcquaid locate/slocate use a database  unless you  'updatedb' the information can be old/out of date
[06:50] <mcquaid> intelikey, i just mentioned i have it run nightly
[06:50] <mcquaid> i'm talking old files
[06:50] <bshumate> trkorecky: execute it, with : java -jar <something.jar> ?
[06:51] <intelikey> mcquaid  that is why i just use 'find'   slower but acurate
[06:51] <mcquaid> yes thats what i end up using as well
[06:51] <mcquaid> but locate is so much faster, it's a shame it seems to randomly miss files
[06:52] <amphi> mebaran151: in cygwin perhaps
[06:52] <rjcute> hi
[06:52] <amphi> o, dear
[06:53] <wastrel> <3 locate
[06:53] <rjcute> where do u leave?????????????
[06:53] <amphi> rjcute: a/s/l/u
[06:53] <wastrel> what's u, haven't seen that before
[06:53] <amphi> wastrel: uptime ;)
[06:54] <wastrel> heh
[06:54] <wastrel> this is a laptop so, not very impressive
[06:54] <n1xt3r> Just wanted to shout out a thanks to all those that work on Ubuntu. I just finished setting up dual boot Win98+Ubuntu and installing Windows is was by far the worst and most time consuming process. Cheers!
[06:54] <wastrel> anyway downloaded a new kernel last week
[06:54] <intelikey> it's only "really" faster if you can't or don't narrow the search.   i.e.  find / -name gdesklets   will search the whole system while   find /uur -name gdesklets is much quicker because it doesn't search any place but /usr   and the more you can narrow the search the faster it gets.
[06:54] <rjcute> >:)
[06:54] <tanubis> win98
[06:54] <rjcute> fuck\
[06:54] <Evodawg> intelikey:  just reminded me to updatedb
[06:54] <ipfw> Feb 20 00:54:18.324 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (114). You must fix this to proceed.
[06:54] <ipfw> Feb 20 00:54:18.324 [err]  options_act(): Couldn't access/create private data directory /va
[06:54] <rjcute> yessssssssssssss
[06:54] <trkorecky> How much better is the 64 bit version of Ubuntu in comparison to the 32 bit?
[06:54] <ipfw> why am I getting this, I'm root atm ?
[06:55] <amphi> wastrel: do you ever shut yours down? I just use swsusp
[06:55] <ipfw> should I sudo apt-get install tor instead of just apt-get install tor ?
[06:55] <llODxCOll> gggggggggggggg
[06:55] <wastrel> amphi:  i shut it down yeah usually
[06:55] <amphi> swsusp works well here
[06:56] <intelikey> ipfw yes all installs unless very special user specific, should be root
[06:58] <redblade> Hello everyone!
[06:58] <dcm> Greetings redblade !
[06:58] <redblade> Hope you're all have a fantastic day!
[06:58] <yggdrasil> what do you all use for peer to peer mp3 download
[06:59] <redblade> I do however have a Frostwire
[06:59] <redblade> oops
[06:59] <dcm> yggdrasil: I'd don't use anything for pirating music, sorry :(
[06:59] <redblade> that came out all wrong
[06:59] <pottsy> nicotine  is decent yggdrasil
[06:59] <yggdrasil> hah
[06:59] <amphi> yggdrasil: scp
[06:59] <yggdrasil> somehing thats on synaptic :(
[06:59] <yggdrasil> god i feel so dirty
[06:59] <wastrel> scp isn't peer to peer
[06:59] <wastrel> well i suppose it is
[06:59] <amphi> heh
[06:59] <wastrel> but in a different sense
[07:00] <redblade> yggdrasil, I use FrostWire.
[07:00] <redblade> It's on Automatix
[07:00] <phate> yggdrasil: My own VPN based P2P torrent network
[07:00] <ipfw> intelikey, this is nuts, I was trouble shooting package/perm issues when the real problem was it didn't assign 127.0.0.1 to lo on boot for some reason :P
[07:00] <intelikey> i get all my warez at 127.0.0.1
[07:00] <iceman> what6s the current linux release of america's army .... ?
[07:00] <Quinch> Can someone tell me how to install DRI for ATI9600SE card?
[07:00] <jetscreamer> !info bittornado
[07:00] <ubotu> bittornado: (bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface), section net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 840 kB
[07:01] <_jason> intelikey: 404 :/
[07:01] <amphi> !ati
[07:01] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:01] <amphi> !fglrx
[07:01] <ubotu> somebody said fglrx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:01] <ipfw> intelikey, whats the easiest way to mod the startup scripts to make sure it does that ?
[07:01] <jetscreamer> ati+xorg==:(
[07:01] <roostishaw> whats xorg?
[07:01] <jetscreamer> x.org
[07:01] <amphi> jetscreamer: it's fine with my trailing edge hw ;)
[07:01] <roostishaw> iv heard it before
[07:01] <ipfw> intelikey, where are the interface scripts in this like eth0.sh lo.sh etc ?
[07:01] <iceman> anyone know america's army game current release for linux
[07:01] <jetscreamer> the aa site might
[07:02] <jetscreamer> try et
[07:02] <amphi> ipfw: man 5 interfaces
[07:02] <ipfw> amphi, thanks man
[07:02] <intelikey> edit /etc/init.d/hostname.sh  i suppose ipfw    but check and make sure that /etc/hosts  is correct
[07:03] <jetscreamer> i'd like to know how they got x.org for a name... sounds like it mighta cost.
[07:03] <intelikey> also make sure there is a symlink in /etc/rcS.d/   for hostname ipfw
[07:04] <trkorecky> Where can one get mplayer?
[07:04] <wastrel> !mplayer
[07:04] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:04] <amphi> !mplayer
[07:04] <lilo> !ops
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[07:04] <lilo> ah
[07:04] <trkorecky> Thanks
[07:05] <ipfw> intelikey, its all setup right, not sure why it wasn't up :P
[07:05] <lilo> probably someone could have messaged me on that problem
[07:05] <fabbione> lilo: ?
[07:05] <lilo> fabbione: I was just checking to see if I'd been added to the list
[07:05] <fabbione> lilo: ok
[07:05] <lilo> fabbione: sorry to disturb!
[07:05] <fabbione> no problem :)
[07:05] <DanC_u> hmm... I upgraded to dapper, but now X is hosed.
[07:05] <intelikey> ipfw before you edit hostname.sh run it and see if it works or errors.
[07:05] <ejofee> how do i make my fonts render more nicely but without using the silly antialias?
[07:05] <wastrel> hello
[07:05] <redblade> Okay, now my problem is with my server.
[07:06] <ipfw> another stupid question, since I started that synaptic package manager, it keeps putting itself in the system tray after I close it -- How do I get rid of it ?
[07:06] <redblade> I'm not sure i understand something:
[07:06] <DanC_u> how does gdm know to start /usr/bin/Xorg ? It seems to have /usr/bin/X in gdm.conf
[07:06] <redblade> Is the server the actual site? or can it have many sites on it?
[07:06] <ipfw> intelikey, works fine
[07:06] <intelikey> ipfw that is the update daemon
[07:06] <amphi> DanC_u: X is probably a symlink
[07:07] <jetscreamer> a server can host many websites if that's what you asked
[07:07] <djmccormick_> everything looks too big. it's like resolution doesn't matter, it just makes stuff bigger. how can you decrease the site of stuff in general?
[07:07] <ipfw> intelikey, yeah but it locks my junk.. and I want to use apt-get instead at times etc
[07:07] <houman_zhu> hello, i need a bit of shell script help here, if i am looping through a directory files how do i check if they have a certain extension?  like :  for i in `ls -R` here how do i check if the file is a bmp?
[07:07] <DanC_u> hmm... ls -l /usr/bin/X doesn't show a symlink
[07:07] <intelikey> you can kill it with sudo top     or ps -A x and kill the process
[07:07] <djmccormick_> houman_zhu, ls *.bmp
[07:08] <mebaran151> does Xgl work in 64 bit dapper yet?
[07:08] <DanC_u> any idea how the /usr/bin/X symlink is supposed to be set up?
[07:08] <houman_zhu> djmccormick_: but i have to search recursively in all the subdirectories, so i cant drop the ls -R and replace it with *.bmp
[07:08] <intelikey> ipfw man kill    man ps    man top     man killall        i like ps && killall personally.
[07:08] <mebaran151> I have a shiny nvidia video card that needs some testing
[07:08] <BlazedForever> does ubuntu have a firewall running by default or something, azureus says it cat get through a udp port ecause its firewalled?
[07:08] <amphi> djmccormick_: perhaps check that dpi 75 is set in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[07:08] <slide> I am trying to compile postfix (specifically so i can get support for dovecot) and im getting this error message, http://pastebin.com/563939
[07:09] <pulver> xgl is cool but whatever happend to vr... as in the movies
[07:09] <mebaran151> any of you run Xgl on 64 bit Dapper
[07:09] <chubibo> yeah
[07:09] <ipfw> intelikey, thats all good and well if I can find out what it calls itself in the process table :P
[07:09] <redblade> jetscreamer, I used apache 2.2.0 to set up a server but I'm having a few problems.
[07:09] <redblade> If you could help me it would be greatly appreciated
[07:10] <intelikey> ipfw that's why i like ps  :)
[07:10] <mcquaid> i see slocate hasn't been updated since jan 03
[07:10] <DanC_u> when I try to `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart` it pauses, then says X can't start and offers to show logs; but the log it shows is empty
[07:10] <mcquaid> and there are some bugs in it missing files with unusual directory structures
[07:10] <mcquaid> debating on compiling beta 3 which was released jan of this year
[07:10] <intelikey> side note ps top and kill/all  don't work on a system that doesn't mount /proc   in case anyone ever runs into that....
[07:11] <pulver> 3d glasses, gloves, mmm vr
[07:11] <jetscreamer> redblade: no idea
[07:11] <BlazedForever> does ubuntu have a firewall running by default or something, azureus says it cat get through a udp port ecause its firewalled?
[07:11] <mike_123> i need help installing my broadcom wireless card
[07:11] <redblade> jetscreamer, that's okay
[07:12] <intelikey> BlazedForever not by default. no.
[07:12] <redblade> Is anyone here able to help me with a small server problem?
[07:12] <jetscreamer> ^web
[07:12] <Jormundgand> redblade: Maybe. =P
[07:12] <mebaran151> redblade: just as no question is stupid, no problem is small ;), but sure
[07:12] <intelikey> BlazedForever ps -A x | grep iptables
[07:12] <slide> I am trying to compile postfix (specifically so i can get support for dovecot) and im getting this error message, http://pastebin.com/563939 Can anyone help?
[07:13] <mebaran151> where can I petition to have lighttpd added to Ubuntu universe even
[07:13] <amphi> BlazedForever: er, iptables -L
[07:13] <mebaran151> I prefer that webserver over heads
[07:13] <redblade> Jormundgand, My problems are two fold, but the latter can wait for later. : )
[07:13] <slide> mebaran151, i would like too also, if you find out, pm me :)
[07:13] <Jormundgand> slide: You need to install the dependencies for compiling dovecot.
[07:13] <slide> Jormundgand, thats postfix that im trying to compile right now and im not sure what dependencies it needs =\
[07:14] <Jormundgand> sudo apt-get build-dep postfix?
[07:14] <redblade> Jormundgand, I have set up a server and it has a test site on it, but I don't know where the source file for it is so i can change it!
[07:14] <Jormundgand> source file for what?
[07:14] <slide> Jormundgand, that doesnt do anything =\
[07:14] <redblade> Jormundgand, the .HTML file.
[07:14] <tga1> what's a nice multi-machine backup app?
[07:14] <Jormundgand> redblade: /var/www?
[07:15] <redblade> Jormundgand, I checked there but I could not see it.
[07:15] <amphi> redblade: where is DocumentRoot?
[07:15] <intelikey> tga1 tar
[07:15] <redblade> I'll check, amphi
[07:15] <jedrick> jetscreamer: still there?
[07:15] <Jormundgand> redblade: try `slocate www`.
[07:15] <redblade> Okay
[07:15] <tga1> intelikey, har har funny
[07:16] <intelikey> '/
[07:16] <jetscreamer> yeah... for a bit.
[07:16] <OmegaAlpha> highvoltage, can someone help me. I got this error twice on my boot up initialization screen ''
[07:16] <tga1> OmegaAlpha, uhoh, that's a serious error
[07:16] <highvoltage> OmegaAlpha: what's the error message?
[07:16] <pottsy> haha
[07:16] <jedrick> jetscreamer: man it's still not working, can i just past the /var files on my root var?
[07:16] <jetscreamer> jedrick: i take it it's still not working
[07:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yes you can
[07:17] <OmegaAlpha> 'Warning. /etc/modprobe.conf exist but does not include /etc/modprobe.d' and for some reason my laptop keeps freezing up ever since
[07:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick: remove that line you added, or comment it out with a # in front
[07:17] <jedrick> ok
[07:17] <redblade> Jormundgand, it threw up a lot of info.
[07:17] <OmegaAlpha> highvoltage, whoops didnt mean to say your name. i was actually typing hi, can some... i must of hit tab heh
[07:18] <jedrick> ill just paste the all the /var file into the root var, i think the /var file has more files than the root var
[07:18] <Jormundgand> redblade: look for one which looks promising.
[07:18] <malt> Hello can i point my domain to my ip if i put these settings on my linux pc ubuntu at my house in /etc/resolv.conf search domainname and then under that nameserver myip could i host a domain that way?
[07:20] <redblade> Jormundgand, something weird just happened
[07:20] <treakath> hey all
[07:20] <chubibo> hi everyone!!
[07:20] <chubibo> what?
[07:21] <redblade> I scanned my comp using Nmap and port 80 is closed
[07:22] <redblade> also 32771 to 32787 are open.
[07:22] <redblade> yesterday, port 80 was open and the others weren't.
[07:22] <robbie_> hi, is there a fast way to install all of the development tools ill need to compile things from source?
[07:22] <robbie_> e.g. apache, wine
[07:23] <amphi> robbie_: install build-essential
[07:24] <monzie> ebuntu
[07:24] <ruby123> what package can I install to get manpages for C functions, like strncpy() etc.
[07:25] <amphi> ruby123: manpages-dev
[07:25] <ruby123> amphi: thanks!
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> I need to know how to do text replacement in a file with wildcards; can someone help me through that?
[07:25] <stephelton> whats a good fixed-width font thats thin i could use for mrxvt?
[07:25] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  easy with vim
[07:26] <redblade> !topic
[07:26] <ruby123> tonyyarusso: does the file contains wildcards, or do you want to use wildcards to perform the replacement?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Yeah?  How?  (Never used vim, btw.)
[07:26] <jetscreamer> manpages-dev
[07:26] <jetscreamer> !info manpages-dev
[07:26] <ubotu> manpages-dev: (Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development), section doc, is optional. Version: 2.02-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1055 kB, Installed size: 2668 kB
[07:26] <redblade> help topic
[07:26] <jetscreamer> try /topic
[07:26] <redblade> oh thanks
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> ruby123, I want to use them in the replacement.  The file and replacing text contain special characters that might need escaping though.
[07:27] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  there's a bit of a learning curve.... heh.   what specifically do you want to do.  and are you familiar with unixy regular expressions ?
[07:27] <jetscreamer> oh i'm slow
[07:27] <monzie> Unixy regexs are beautiful , powerful
[07:28] <ruby123> extended regexps are sexy
[07:28] <stephelton> whats a good fixed-width font thats thin i could use for mrxvt?
[07:28] <redblade> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8939, can someone make sense of this?
[07:28] <asimismo> Evenin' all. I'd like to use LVM on RAID1. I have 2 80 gig drives. I've had some trouble in the past trying this. Anyone done it successfully?
[07:28] <ruby123> stephelton: terminus
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Some familiarity.  I'm trying to take a Gaim log that was logged as plain text and get to match the html ones.
[07:28] <darthbutcher> I am having a problem.
[07:28] <darthbutcher> Ubuntu does not read my blank disc.
[07:29] <redblade> What do you mean?
[07:29] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  well in vim   :1,$s/foo/bar/g
[07:29] <darthbutcher> It does not come up as selectable.
[07:29] <redblade> What are you trying to do with it?
[07:29] <redblade> oh.
[07:29] <darthbutcher> Download the Dapper Drake iso.
[07:30] <darthbutcher> Wait, got it working!
[07:30] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  that will call up the command line (:)  and starting at the first line (1), through to the end ($)  substitute "foo" for "bar"  through the whole line
[07:30] <redblade> Oh, well good luck with that then
[07:30] <ruby123> wastrel: he can also use sed with the same syntax. sed 's/foo/bar/g'
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Is that an L or a one? Also, isn't there a cli thing to do this sans vim?
[07:31] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  yes you can use sed as redblade said.  and it's a numeral 1
[07:31] <intelikey> howto tell the differance in lazy and just don't want to work ???
[07:31] <wastrel> s/redblad/ruby123/
[07:31] <wastrel> eh
[07:32] <intelikey> i like sed....  but i don't know much about it really...
[07:33] <wastrel> i like to use vim so i can see what i'm doing :] 
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, redblade: Ah.  I thought that was it, and got this: "sed: -e expression #1, char 43: unknown option to `s' "
[07:33] <intelikey> wastrel but not from a script of course.
[07:33] <wastrel> i suppose not
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, redblade: No g on the end when I did that though.
[07:34] <concept10> crap! They took away the Right-click "Open link in Firefox tab" optionsin xchat 2.6.1 in dapper
[07:34] <nomin> what is the easiest to use program for making dvd's?  I want to put some videos from my pc onto dvd so they can be played in a dvd player.
[07:35] <darthbutcher> AIM ON LINUX!
[07:35] <alejandra> hola chicos
[07:35] <Psykus> anyone know where I can tweak the TTY settings under ubuntu/linux?
[07:35] <darthbutcher> !AIM
[07:35] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:35] <wastrel> gaim
[07:35] <darthbutcher> No.
[07:35] <darthbutcher> AIM just released a Linux version@
[07:35] <darthbutcher> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=
[07:36] <wastrel> something wrong with gaim?
[07:37] <darthbutcher> Well, I rather use AIM.
[07:37] <merk_> Knnen Sie Deutsch?
[07:37] <concept10> I know. thats what im thinkin
[07:37] <darthbutcher> I use AIM a lot.
[07:37] <intelikey> Psykus /etc/secutity/access.conf /etc/terminfo/*/   what you want to tweek ?
[07:37] <darthbutcher> And Direct COnnect PWNS!
[07:37] <Madpilot> !de
[07:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:37] <merk_> danke
[07:37] <asimismo> So, noone doing LVM on RAID1?
[07:38] <wastrel> does the expression shut your ass up ring any bells
[07:38] <wastrel> heh sry i'm watching a movie
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, redblade: Where can I find a list of what needs escaping?
[07:39] <w32> when I run /etc/init.d/saslauthd start I get the following error : /etc/init.d/saslauthd: line 9 root sasl 755 /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd : no such file or directory .....BUT THE DIRECTORY IS THERE...WTF...any one know what I did wrong ???
[07:40] <redblade> Can someone have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8939
[07:40] <redblade> ?
[07:41] <redblade> I came up when I tried to add some programs from synaptic
[07:41] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  shell special characters   http://www.pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/grep.html#details
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Beautiful.
[07:42] <jjjjjjj> what's that ubotu?  is it a bot?
[07:42] <redblade> yep
[07:42] <w32> I've been following this how to http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 all has went well up until this  http://pastebin.com/563970
[07:42] <Psykus> intelikey, I meant TTY as in time to live
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> redblade: run "refresh" in synaptic
[07:43] <redblade> thanks
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> *click refresh
[07:43] <jjjjjjj> can I add something to it's database in case someone else is looking for the same solution?
[07:43] <n_i_c_k> What determines whether a USB storage device is treated as removable?
[07:43] <darthbutcher> I can't get this AIM download to work.
[07:43] <asimismo> Would anyone like to make some recommendations on partitioning schemes? I've got 80 gigs
[07:43] <timfrost> !ubotu
[07:43] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:43] <darthbutcher> Does Ubuntu use .rpms?
[07:43] <nomin> how do I make a dvd video on ubuntu?
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[07:43] <redblade> Do bots have feelings?
[07:43] <darthbutcher> Can it use one?
[07:43] <redblade> lol
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> but you can install them with alien if you have to
[07:44] <darthbutcher> k
[07:44] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: get a .deb if you can
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> redblade: ye :p
[07:44] <redblade> : )
[07:45] <wisie> I'm getting this error when I try to start apache2 for the first time 'touch: cannot touch `/etc/apache2/httpd.conf': No such file or directory
[07:45] <wisie> ' I think my brother rm'd the directory argh, is there anything i can do to get it back or reinstall it?
[07:45] <redblade> Kamping_Kaiser, how do I refresh?
[07:45] <darthbutcher> Can anyone help me install AIM?
[07:45] <timfrost> redblade, can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?  Those errors seem to suggest an error in that file.
[07:46] <redblade> okay
[07:46] <amphi> what is aim?
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> redblade: I'll leave you with timfrost
[07:46] <redblade> juat a minute
[07:46] <jjjjjjj> well if someone asks about thin-client computing maybe send them here:
[07:46] <redblade> just*
[07:46] <jjjjjjj> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/Chapter_5_-_Thin-Client_Computing?highlight=%28thin-client%29
[07:47] <darthbutcher> jjjjjjj https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentati
[07:47] <darthbutcher> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=
[07:47] <darthbutcher> There is the link for AIM.
[07:47] <Smeggy> what package(s) do i need to install to get mp3 playback for xine engine?
[07:48] <wisie> anyone around at all? i think ive made a huge mistake
[07:49] <redblade> timfrost, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8940
[07:50] <merp> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[07:50] <merp> I installed the ndiswrapper-utils package from the CD.
[07:50] <intelikey> wisie what mistake ?
[07:50] <wisie> may i pm for a sec?
[07:50] <merp> modprobe ndiswrapper after the install tells me that I'm missing a kernel module.
[07:50] <merp> What do I do?
[07:50] <wisie> i might as well do it here actually so everyone can see
[07:50] <stephelton> where are binaries stored after i apt-get them?
[07:50] <starkej> II'm having a little trouble setting up an Ubuntu Computer.  For some reason, It doesn't seem to recognize the card.  The really wierd thing is the fact thatIt picks it up fine when I'm doing the install
[07:50] <intelikey> one blast, make it good.
[07:51] <zebraFusion> intelikey, I have a question
[07:51] <intelikey> k
[07:51] <wisie> alex@Dub:~$  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start touch: cannot touch `/etc/apache2/httpd.conf': No such file or directory     --- my brother rm'd the etc/apache2 dir.. is she lost forever
[07:52] <zebraFusion> intelikey, I want to tripple boot with gentoo... I have Dapper and Windows XP dual booted with GRUB as my bootloader... what would be the easiest way take HD space out of my Windows partition, make a blank partition and install Gentoo to it.
[07:52] <Protocol1> what will the commands be to upgrade to dapper drake?
[07:52] <zebraFusion> :o
[07:52] <Protocol1> via breezy
[07:52] <ejofee> where are the source files corresponding to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ ?
[07:52] <zebraFusion> Protocol1, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect dapper's repositries.
[07:52] <Madpilot> wisie: you could just uninstall & reinstall the apache2 package, that should recreate the directory...
[07:52] <redblade> Does anyone know what RPC is?
[07:52] <merp> I'm totally screwed.
[07:52] <thelsdj> remote procedure call
[07:52] <merp> I've tried this over and over.
[07:53] <merp> How come ndiswrapper will install but not the module?
[07:53] <merp> Or why isn't there a ndiswrapper module on the CD?
[07:53] <Protocol1> zebraFusion, got ya
[07:53] <Protocol1> thats cool
[07:53] <redblade> Or why I have 11, ports for RPC open?
[07:53] <zebraFusion> Protocol1, if you want I can PM you mine... It's the very basic dapper repos
[07:53] <thelsdj> redblade: which ports?
[07:53] <thelsdj> redblade: lsof|grep <port#>
[07:53] <thelsdj> should tell you what program
[07:53] <jb1> redblade: check out lead item on current freshmeat at http://freshmeat.net It has good basic article on RTP and SIP
[07:53] <intelikey> wisie you mean is there a way to undelete it... short answer yes.  long answer it is not worth the trubble.  make a nes one    or even  apt-get remove apache2 --purge   and reinstall it.
[07:54] <Protocol1> zebraFusion, sure i dont see why not
[07:54] <redblade> 32771 - 32787
[07:54] <jb1> oops...you meant RPC not RTP. sorry.
[07:54] <thelsdj> redblade: like i said lsof|grep 32771 should answer
[07:54] <jb1> RPC is used with NFS
[07:54] <thelsdj> or i should say sudo lsof|grep 32771
[07:54] <darthbutcher> I need AIM help.
[07:54] <ejofee> darthbutcher: any aim?
[07:55] <redblade> gconfd-2, thelsdj
[07:55] <darthbutcher> AIM as in the new 1.5 for Linux.
[07:55] <darthbutcher> I can't get it to install.
[07:55] <redblade> What is this?
[07:55] <intelikey> zebraFusion easiest way is use windows and free up some space  then use ubuntu to make the new partition of the free space and start from there with the install.
[07:55] <intelikey> that is my openion on that.
[07:55] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: gaim is installed by default on Ubuntu...
[07:55] <liquidindian> Using the terminal, how can I remove nonempty directories without deleting each file in the directory?
[07:55] <zebraFusion> intelikey, sounds good. Do you know of a guide or howto for using ubuntu to partition space?
[07:56] <Protocol1> how would I be able to remove kubuntu-desktop via terminal?
[07:56] <thelsdj> redblade: are you sure its actually open to the world or is it just listening on loopback?
[07:56] <intelikey> zebraFusion sure it's called   man cfdisk
[07:56] <darthbutcher> Not GAIM, AIM.
[07:56] <redblade> How can I tell?
[07:56] <darthbutcher> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=0
[07:56] <Madpilot> liquidindian: "rm -rf" - use carefully
[07:56] <Psykus> anyone know where I tweak TTY (time to live) settings under linux?
[07:57] <thelsdj> redblade: well how do you know these ports are open?
[07:57] <redblade> Nmap
[07:57] <thelsdj> what ip did you nmap? your ethernet interfaces ip?
[07:57] <zebraFusion> how can I ONLY install the package I want without any recommendations
[07:57] <zebraFusion> like, just the gedit package.
[07:58] <redblade> I nmap'd my private IP
[07:58] <merp> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Ndiswrapper
[07:58] <redblade> I think
[07:58] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: get the deb file, and run "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[07:58] <merp> This says the modules are pre-installed.
[07:58] <ejofee> thelsdj: http://www.grc.com/port_<your_port_here>.html
[07:58] <merp> But, I've looked at this place and know that they aren't.
[07:58] <merp> How do I install them?
[07:58] <GlobalDimming> have any of you been able to make dvd videos on ubuntu?
[07:58] <liquidindian> Madpilot "rm -rf will recursively remove folders and their contents"  What does it mean by that?
[07:58] <merp> I can't find any packages that match this version of Breezy's kernel?
[07:58] <thelsdj> redblade: well it makes a difference, on my computer if i nmap 127.0.0.1 it lists more open than if i nmap 192.168.1.100
[07:58] <ejofee> where are the source files corresponding to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ ?
[07:59] <jb1> redblade: if you did the nmap from inside your own network, say from your own box, instead of from outside, it will not be reliable
[07:59] <Jormundgand> liquidindian: It will remove all files, and all directories, and all files in those directories.
[07:59] <Madpilot> liquidindian: it means that it'll remove the folder you aim it at, and everything in that folder
[07:59] <redblade> ah
[07:59] <Jormundgand> (including directories in directories etc)
[07:59] <redblade> I see
[07:59] <intelikey> zebraFusion if there are dependancies you will need to meet them somehow or the package or some of it's functions will not work anyway.... that is why it installs required packages and sujests others....
[07:59] <thelsdj> redblade: if you want to give me your internet ip in private i will nmap you and give you results and that will be a bit more reliable
[07:59] <zebraFusion> intelikey, I understand, but I know for a fact it's installing packages that aren't necessary.
[07:59] <timfrost> redblade, try changing the plf repository from ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/to http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/.  Then run "sudo apt-get update".  I suspect that free.fr FTP site may be mis-configured.
[08:00] <zebraFusion> gedit is trying to install a bunch of printer packages that were running and had an open port... I removed them and now it wants to install them again.
[08:00] <jjjjjjj> well my time is up.  back to the world of windows tomorrow. <sigh>
[08:01] <jjjjjjj> l8r
[08:01] <intelikey> zebraFusion  grab the  .deb and use dpkg    man dpkg    that is as much help as i am willing to give as to breaking your system.
[08:01] <zebraFusion> lol
[08:01] <zebraFusion> Thanks
[08:01] <intelikey> you bet.
[08:02] <intelikey> when you screw up dpkg you will be back whining about it....
[08:02] <aberrant> anyone know an alternative to samba and nfs for serving files between two Ubuntu systems?
[08:02] <myren> Davey: would you mind unbanning 20% of the east coast from #web please?
[08:02] <Madpilot> aberrant: ssh/sftp?
[08:02] <redblade> timfrost, it din't work. I may have done it wrong.
[08:02] <zebraFusion> aberrant... ssh/sftp
[08:03] <aberrant> or anyone know how to increase the file size limit in samba?
[08:03] <timfrost> redblade, what errors?
[08:03] <intelikey> aberrant scp  rsync
[08:03] <redblade> Could yo upast bin the file with the correct info?
[08:03] <redblade> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[08:03] <aberrant> the problem is I am dd to image a drive to file ...that file would reside on a server
[08:04] <aberrant> on ubuntu1 i want to dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/bigdiskimage.img
[08:04] <aberrant> but samba doesn't like the client writing a file bigger than 2GB
[08:05] <aberrant> can I incrase the file size limit on samba?
[08:05] <mrthorin> anyone having problems with automatix?
[08:05] <timfrost> redblade, change the line to "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free"
[08:05] <Madpilot> !automatix
[08:05] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[08:06] <darthbutcher> Finally, I got it working!
[08:06] <Psykus> under /etc/fstab , how would I specify /dev/hdb5 to be mounted to /mnt/zee automatically upon boot, and accessible to non root users?
[08:07] <ejofee> where are the source files corresponding to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ ?
[08:10] <redblade> timfrost, update seems to be stuck on  "99% [Connecting to ftp.free.fr (213.228.0.141)] 
[08:10] <redblade> "
[08:10] <jb1> aberrant: are they two linux boxes you want to share files between?
[08:11] <jb1> aberrant: sorry, reading comprehension seriously lacking tonight. you did say 2 ubuntu boxes. Have you tried sshfs?
[08:12] <aberrant> jbl sshfs..no I haven't
[08:12] <timfrost> redblade, that seems to confirm that ftp.free.fr is down. Press CTRL-C to abort the update, then change the server part of *both* PLF lines (lines 37 and 38) to http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/
[08:12] <jb1> aberrant: it sets up a share on an ssh tunnel. I tried it the other day and it worked just fine.
[08:12] <aberrant> jbl they are two ubuntu boxes...I want to mount a filesystem from system 1 to copy a large file from system2....actually to direct the output of dd
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl  ubuntu1% dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/share
[08:13] <_GoDawgs_> Hey Guys.... what's a program like FileZilla?
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl  ubuntu1% dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/share/bigdiskimage.imb
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl  ubuntu1% dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/share/bigdiskimage.img
[08:13] <_GoDawgs_> I need the GUI interface.
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl is that share a samba share?
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl nfs?
[08:14] <Madpilot> _GoDawgs_: gftp - or the file manager (Nautilus) which does a bunch of basic FTP stuff very well
[08:14] <aberrant> jbl thanks for the pointer...sshfs and google should get me going
[08:15] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: I can always count on you!  Thank you!!!
[08:15] <jb1> aberrant: no not a sambe share. you make yourself a target directory and then tell sshfs to go to the other box and mount the directory you want to copy from to that target directory on your own box. and voila, it appears as if it is locally mounted.
[08:15] <aberrant> jbl sweet...that sounds like what I need...thanks
[08:15] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: I'm curious do you have any reason why I'm gettng this error message when trying to install Samba? samba:  Depends: samba-common (=3.0.14a-6ubuntu1) but 3.0.21a-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:15] <jb1> aberrant: you can apt-get install sshfs and then read the man page, too.
[08:15] <Madpilot> _GoDawgs_: no idea, I've never had to play with samba
[08:16] <aberrant> jbl I'm all over it like nipples on a prize pig ;-)
[08:16] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: What a lucky  duck you are!
[08:16] <darthbutcher> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:16] <darthbutcher> What does that mean?
[08:16] <joey_> i dunno
[08:16] <aberrant> jbl thanks again...g'nite
[08:16] <brownie17> does anyone know when everytime i try to run amaroK it tells me couldn't load thunderbird
[08:16] <Vikim> are you trying to play N
[08:16] <jb1> good luck. let us know how it went
[08:17] <_GoDawgs_> !ubuntu-es
[08:17] <ubotu> _GoDawgs_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:17] <_GoDawgs_> doh
[08:17] <Madpilot> !es
[08:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:17] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy samba-common".
[08:17] <_GoDawgs_> thanks Madpilot
[08:17] <trigg3r> hi everyone
[08:18] <trigg3r> greetings from ubuntu-ph
[08:18] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: Ok, give me just a sec to get it
[08:18] <darthbutcher>  Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[08:18] <darthbutcher> How do I install that?
[08:18] <Ma> hello stf
[08:18] <Gabriel> coucou!!!
[08:18] <Gabriel> ca va ?
[08:18] <Ma> tu vas bien
[08:18] <Ma> lol
[08:19] <Gabriel> oui ca va .. hi...
[08:19] <Jormundgand> !fr
[08:19] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:19] <darthbutcher> !libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[08:19] <ubotu> darthbutcher: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:19] <Ma> jje suis devouneau morte de rire
[08:19] <darthbutcher> !libstdc
[08:19] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:19] <brownie17> !ubotu ubuntu-es is Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:19] <ubotu> okay, brownie17
[08:19] <Gabriel> scuse j'avais pas vu que tu m'avais tl...
[08:19] <Gabriel> lol...
[08:19] <Ma> pas grave
[08:19] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8941
[08:19] <Gabriel> met serveur autres canal...
[08:19] <Gabriel> serveur : joindre canal...
[08:20] <Ma> tu veux faire une pause aprs comme la dernire fois
[08:20] <_GoDawgs_> !fr
[08:20] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:20] <Ma> alors tu veux'
[08:20] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, have you installed some dapper packages?
[08:20] <Gabriel> oui si tu veux.. j'ai qqch d'important a te raconter...
[08:21] <Ma> moi aussi
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: I have Dapper Flight 4 installed as of tonight.
[08:21] <Gabriel> j'ai parl tte la nuit sur msn ac Julien.. tu te souviens ? l'homme de ma vie...
[08:21] <cafuego> Eh, waar gaat dit nou weer over?
[08:21] <Gabriel> j'te montrerai une photo....
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> wb Madpilot
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> !FR
[08:21] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:21] <Ma> ha oui et comment tu fai pour crire en rouge?
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> Come on guys......
[08:21] <cafuego> Ma: Please use english here.
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: Thank you
[08:21] <Gabriel> j'ai pas ecrit en rouge!!
[08:21] <Ma> viiiiiiiii
[08:21] <Vikim> lol
[08:22] <Una^> _GoDawgs_: flight 4 is out tonight?
[08:22] <darthbutcher> I got AIM working.
[08:22] <Gabriel> ah bon! mdr..
[08:22] <Ma> tu vu ya tout le monde qui veux qu on parle en englais lol
[08:22] <Ma> oui
[08:22] <_GoDawgs_> Una^: I downloaded it last night.
[08:22] <Gabriel> ch pas.. c venu tt seul alors..
[08:22] <Ma> tu veux aller  quel leur  la pause?
[08:22] <Gabriel> mdr..
[08:22] <darthbutcher> !english
[08:22] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[08:22] <Ma> mdr
[08:22] <Gabriel> quand tu veux...
[08:22] <Una^> _GoDawgs_: oh right, ty
[08:22] <_GoDawgs_> Gabriel: Ma: Please speak english in here.... NOT french.
[08:22] <Gabriel> Met serveur.. joindre un canal....
[08:22] <Ma> ch
[08:22] <Ma> pas
[08:22] <_GoDawgs_> Una^: no problem
[08:22] <Ma> ch pas
[08:22] <darthbutcher> !englais
[08:22] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[08:22] <cafuego> Ma: Nee, dat is niet zo. We hebben heuir alleen die regel omdat er voor (bijvoorbeeld frans) andere kanalen zijn.
[08:22] <darthbutcher> How are you all doing?
[08:22] <Gabriel> Ok but I'dont speak english!! sorry......
[08:22] <cafuego> Ma: Snap je?
[08:23] <Ma> lol il veule tous nous tuer stf
[08:23] <darthbutcher> I speak no french!
[08:23] <Ma> on va dans l autre cananl
[08:23] <darthbutcher> !es
[08:23] <Ma> c chiant la
[08:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:23] <cafuego> Gabriel: There is #ubuntu-fr
[08:23] <Ma> on voit keudale???
[08:23] <Madpilot> !tell Gabriel about fr
[08:23] <Gabriel> ouais  a toute
[08:23] <Ma> tu va
[08:23] <Ma> ds lautre la?
[08:23] <_GoDawgs_> Gabriel: You speak french.... quite well.  Please speak it in the french discussion.
[08:23] <intelikey> oh is that franch ?
[08:23] <_GoDawgs_> \Yep
[08:23] <cafuego> intelikey: oui
[08:23] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: hehehehhehe
[08:24] <Ma> stf tu vas dans l'autre canal la ????
[08:24] <Madpilot> !tell Ma about fr
[08:24] <Gabriel> oui je pars
[08:24] <_GoDawgs_> !tell Gabriel about fr
[08:24] <cafuego> Merci
[08:24] <Ma> oki
[08:24] <_GoDawgs_> Finally.
[08:24] <darth> hello
[08:24] <_GoDawgs_> darth hello
[08:25] <darth> ive installed apache2 and php5 and mysql-common
[08:25] <darth> via apt
[08:25] <cafuego> and you're missing mysql-server and php5-mysql ?;-)
[08:25] <darth> and when i try to start apache2.. it comes up with
[08:25] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, your sources.list is mixing breezy and dapper.  samba  3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 is a breezy package, and  3.0.21a-1ubuntu1 is a dapper package.  I suggest that you edit sources.list and change *all* occurrences of "breezy" to "dapper", then try again
[08:26] <redblade> timfrost, that came up with the same error.
[08:26] <darth> (98)address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80   no listening sockets available, shutting down  unable to open logs
[08:26] <redblade> could you js past bin what the file is supposed to say?
[08:26] <cafuego> darth: ok, something is already listening on port 80. 'sudo netstat -nap | grep :80'
[08:27] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: ok... I thought at this point one could use breezy pkgs since dapper isn't officially released
[08:27] <Protocol1> !ogle
[08:27] <ubotu> Protocol1: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: i'll give that a go now.... thank you so much for your help!
[08:27] <timfrost> redblade, strange.  I just did an update using the PLF web server.
[08:27] <foampeace> !ubotu java
[08:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:27] <thelsdj> anyone know if theres a chance network-manager and nm-applet will make it into default dapper install? seems like a must have
[08:28] <cafuego> _GoDawgs_: Yes, you shouldf use breezy, but you should also NEVER EVER mix packages; it leads to pain.
[08:28] <intelikey> !!
[08:28] <ubotu> intelikey: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:28] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: understood... hence, what i'm doing now!
[08:28] <_GoDawgs_> :)
[08:28] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, You hagfe the dapper version of samba installed, and are trying to install a breezy package that *requires* the breezy version of samba.
[08:28] <cafuego> nm-applet?
[08:28] <cafuego> !info nm-applet dapper
[08:28] <_GoDawgs_> oh oh oh ... so I already have it installed?
[08:29] <pilgrim> Why do I get nothing from "sudo whoami"?
[08:29] <Vikim> anyone know how to execute an xmodmap configuration at boot
[08:29] <_GoDawgs_> I didn't see it in my synaptic as such.
[08:29] <_GoDawgs_> hmmm....
[08:29] <thelsdj> nm-applet is the applet frontend for network-manager
[08:29] <cafuego> ah ooh er
[08:29] <darth> it said tcp6 0   0 :::80    :::*       LISTEN   2
[08:29] <cafuego> darth: nothing else?
[08:29] <intelikey> Vikim put the command in one of the init scripts
[08:29] <darth> and it said: 1110/apache2
[08:29] <cafuego> darth: Ok, so apache is already running.
[08:30] <darth> ohhh
[08:30] <thelsdj> cafuego: seems very user unfriendly to not have a wireless network browser in the default install, and as far as i know there isn't one?
[08:30] <Vikim> in /etc/rc2.d ?
[08:30] <intelikey> Vikim sure
[08:30] <cafuego> darth: If you want to reload its config; run 'sudo apache2ctl graceful'
[08:30] <darth> thankyou..
[08:30] <darth> what does the graceful do
[08:30] <sagarp> can i use the official nvidia 8178 drivers and xgl? or do i have to use nvidia-glx from the repositories
[08:31] <darth> an do i stop it?
[08:31] <cafuego> sagarp: You on dapper?
[08:31] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: how many repos should you have anyway?
[08:31] <cafuego> darth: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[08:31] <sagarp> cafuego yeah
[08:31] <cafuego> _GoDawgs_: at least 1.
[08:31] <intelikey> Vikim any runlevel... they are by default equal 2-5 in ubuntu
[08:31] <cafuego> sagarp: The repo versions works fine with Xgl.
[08:31] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: hehhee... yeah i kinda got that... thanks :)  I meant after the basics
[08:32] <sagarp> cafuego, i know but i want to run the latest 8178..because without them when i run glxinfo | grep Direct, it says "no"
[08:32] <cafuego> _GoDawgs_: Depends... pobably at least restricted; also universe and multiverse depending on needs.
[08:32] <intelikey> Vikim if you need it ran early use something in /etc/rcS.d/
[08:32] <cafuego> sagarp: Then it's not loading something it ought to be.
[08:32] <lopsa> after i have used a free DNS Service and pointed the domain to my ip what would i do next for like setting my to tell that domain what folder to direct to or to alow it to be hosted
[08:32] <Protocol1> sick flight 4 is available
[08:32] <lopsa> domain i ment at end by my
[08:32] <darth> ok it says apachectl not found
[08:32] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: ok.... sounds good... I just saw one for openoffice and skype and stuff.... so I thought one might need them individually
[08:33] <Vikim> intelikey: i just need it run before metacity links its keyboard commands to the keys
[08:33] <Madpilot> !tell _GoDawgs_ about repos
[08:33] <_GoDawgs_> anyone know why ex-chat is giving me TWO messages each time someone sends me something in the channel?
[08:33] <_GoDawgs_> it's odd
[08:34] <intelikey> Vikim i think i'd use rcS.d  and bootmisc  but that's just me.
[08:34] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: I know about repos... for the most part... I used source-o-matic to get the ones I have.
[08:34] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: But thank you so much!
[08:35] <Vikim> intelikey: what is bootmisc?
[08:35] <nibblesmx> i just installed banshee in ubuntu dapper and it's giving me this funky error about not creating the 'playbin' gstreamer plugin. can anyone help me?
[08:35] <newbuntie> _GoDawgs_: you're seeing this twice, but messages in the room not addressed to you are only displayed once?
[08:36] <_GoDawgs_> nope, those are twice also newbuntie
[08:36] <_GoDawgs_> cute nick too newbuntie
[08:36] <Madpilot> _GoDawgs_: the 2nd & 3rd URLs in the bot's msg have 'standard' sources.list setups for Breezy & Dapper, if you need to rebuild yours
[08:36] <intelikey> Vikim the script bootmisc    ls /etc/rc?.d
[08:36] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: Noted.  Thanks ;)
[08:36] <Vikim> oh nevermind duh
[08:37] <newbuntie> _GoDawgs_ might be the server you're using, try reconnecting...and thx
[08:37] <_unstable> Can anyone do apt-cache policy wifi-radar and give me the link to the deb?
[08:37] <slide> Does anyone know where I can get a deb for postfix 2.3?
[08:38] <lamp420> hi, I have a usbdrive that I'm using in ubuntu that isn't having free space freed when I delete files from it.  I've tried reformating the thing, etc
[08:38] <lamp420> any ideas on why this is happening?
[08:38] <_GoDawgs_> newbuntie: good idea... I shall momentarily
[08:38] <slide> lamp420,  probably because the files are going into the trash
[08:38] <slide> check the .trash folder
[08:38] <wastrel> wifiradar isn't packaged
[08:39] <lamp420> ahh
[08:39] <lamp420> slide, thanks
[08:39] <slide> np :)
[08:39] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: That was a great link.  Thank you so much.  I've rebuilt my sources.list based on that post by Seveas
[08:39] <Protocol1> !dvd
[08:39] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:40] <slide> I want to upgrade a package from sources (not a package source) but other packages i need depend on that package, how do i remove it and install from source and still keep the depending packages?
[08:41] <johanbr> slide: sudo dpkg -P packagename . -P also removes configuration files for that package, I forget what the "keep config files" option is called.
[08:41] <intelikey> -r
[08:41] <opmckgsp4> hello dear
[08:42] <slide> johanbr, so install all the packages and then forceably remove the one i want to upgrade?
[08:42] <johanbr> slide: Yes.
[08:42] <slide> k thanks :)
[08:43] <johanbr> slide: Since you're installing a newer version from source, you probably want the -r rather than the -P option.
[08:43] <intelikey> well that should be a note to all that have so repetedly scolded me,   I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT LIKES TO BREAK THINGS.....
[08:43] <intelikey> :)
[08:43] <slide> hehe
[08:43] <slide> no, its the lack of updates that break it for me heh
[08:45] <pilgrim> Why do you guys get when you type "sudo whoami" in a terminal?
[08:46] <pepsi> you'd get the real user
[08:46] <wastrel> root
[08:46] <pilgrim> I get nothing
[08:46] <wastrel> super
[08:46] <pepsi> oh i do get root
[08:46] <pilgrim> pepsi, root makes sense
[08:46] <pepsi> shouldnt it be me though?
[08:46] <intelikey> i get bash; sudo command not found
[08:46] <pilgrim> because sudo = do as superuser
[08:46] <wastrel> pilgrim:  and what do you get if you don't use sudo
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[08:47] <pepsi> i see
[08:47] <pepsi> USERT gets set to root
[08:47] <pepsi> but USERNAME stays the same
[08:47] <slide> ok, when i sudo dpkg -r postfix, i get this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/ytPRg787.html
[08:47] <pepsi> USER rather
[08:47] <amphi> pilgrim: that's $USER ;)
[08:47] <wastrel> pilgrim:  and sudo su root ; whoami
[08:47] <pilgrim> amphi, sorry :)
[08:47] <intelikey> sudo echo "$USER"
[08:48] <pilgrim> wastrel, I get my username (gezim)
[08:48] <wastrel> pilgrim:  if you sudo su root and run whoami?
[08:48] <pilgrim> insidious, 0
[08:48] <pilgrim> insidious, that's nothing BTW
[08:48] <insidious> heh, okay
[08:49] <pilgrim> wastrel, my username
[08:49] <wastrel> heh your shell is weird
[08:49] <wastrel> pilgrim:  grep root /etc/passwd
[08:49] <pilgrim> wastrel, people have said that about me but not my shell
[08:50] <johanbr> slide: Okay. You have a couple of options: 1) Install a dummy postfix package using equivs. 2) Leave the old postfix in place and install the source package to, say, /usr/local. In that case, you probably need to tweak some init scripts. 3) Get the postfix source package from dapper and rebuild it to create a proper package. The third option is the one that I think is most esthetically appealing.
[08:50] <pilgrim> root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash  (hint, my pass is not x for those of you who don't know)
[08:50] <herede> i'm planning to install Ubuntu on my home PC, but unfortunately, my CD/DVD drive is broken. does ubuntu provide some way of istalling through the network or something?
[08:50] <wastrel> your password is in /etc/shadow
[08:50] <intelikey> pilgrim we'd need you to run that on /etc/shadow  methinks   lol
[08:50] <wastrel> pilgrim:  well i dunno that looks fine.  some weirdness with shell environment or something maybe
[08:51] <pilgrim> lol
[08:51] <herede> whats wrong
[08:51] <pilgrim> herede, sudo whomai >>> nothing
[08:51] <herede> weird
[08:51] <pilgrim> LOL
[08:51] <herede> nothing as in NOTHING?
[08:51] <pilgrim> maybe I'm spelling it wrong in shell to
[08:51] <pilgrim> too
[08:51] <herede> i mean, no output at all
[08:51] <pilgrim> yeah
[08:51] <herede> ...
[08:51] <slide> johanbr, hrm, where would i find the source package from dapper?
[08:52] <pilgrim> gezim@laptopi:/usr$ sudo whoami
[08:52] <pilgrim> gezim@laptopi:/usr$
[08:52] <herede> sudo /bin/bash?
[08:52] <wastrel> pilgrim:  sudo echo foo
[08:52] <pilgrim> herede, NULL (nothing, again)
[08:52] <herede> is this a newly installed box?
[08:52] <pilgrim> wastrel, nothing.
[08:52] <johanbr> slide: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/postfix
[08:53] <slide> johanbr, ty :)
[08:53] <pilgrim> herede, nothing...arr I mean no it's not
[08:53] <herede> pilgrim: but you've lost the root password or what?
[08:53] <slide> johanbr, hrm, that only has 2.2.8, i need 2.3
[08:53] <pilgrim> herede, what makes you think so?
[08:53] <intelikey> looks to me like pilgrim's sudo is borkeddd
[08:53] <herede> pilgrim: nothing, just wondering
[08:53] <wastrel> your shell environment is g00fy  what terminal are you using.  are you in a screen session?
[08:53] <wastrel> yeah or sudo is broken
[08:53] <herede> so it's *just* sudo?
[08:54] <pilgrim> walkingice, no, no screen.
[08:54] <pilgrim> herede, shell responds fine otherwise.
[08:55] <wastrel> pilgrim:  drop to console & log in and try
[08:55] <pilgrim> maybe I should tell about what I was trying to accomplish. I was trying to create a folder in /usr/ called "installed" and I wanted a group called "install" I got these two but when I tried to chown of the folder didn't happen, and I'm here.
[08:55] <pilgrim> wastrel, nothing.
[08:56] <pilgrim> my windows experience tells me I should restart.
[08:56] <johanbr> slide: Ok. What do you need 2.3 for, specifically?
[08:56] <wastrel> pilgrim:  did you edit the passwd file without using vipw ?
[08:56] <slide> johanbr, to get auth working with dovecot
[08:56] <pilgrim> wastrel, nope. I did it with groupmod and usermod
[08:57] <ike_> apache2 has stopped parsing php files.  Is there any easy way to reinstall the whole setup, configuration files and all?
[08:57] <intelikey> looks to me like pilgrim's sudo is borkeddd
[08:57] <herede> is it possible to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu from the network? cause my DVD drive is fucked?
[08:57] <pilgrim> intelikey, looks to me like you're being a parrett.
[08:57] <wastrel> i dunno pilgrim this is a weird one
[08:57] <pilgrim> wastrel, indeed.
[08:57] <slide> johanbr, i foudn this, http://pdo.debian.net/experimental/mail/postfix
[08:57] <intelikey> pilgrim do you want to fix it ?
[08:58] <wastrel> pilgrim:  so is sudo running the command and losing the output or is it not even running the command?
[08:58] <pilgrim> intelikey, yeah...
[08:58] <wastrel> pilgrim:  what about  sudo touch foo; ls -l foo
[08:58] <pilgrim> wastrel, good question. No idea.
[08:58] <pilgrim> wastrel, ls: foo: No such file or directory
[08:58] <pilgrim> \
[08:59] <sagarp> i just installed dapper and it's working great with xgl and compiz and stuff...but for some reason hardware accel is turned off..how can i enable it?
[08:59] <wastrel> pilgrim:  your sudo is b0rked
[08:59] <pilgrim> wastrel, why?!
[08:59] <wastrel> pilgrim:  have you edited /etc/sudoers ?
[08:59] <pilgrim> wastrel, should I worry about my safety, securiyt, homeland security?
[08:59] <pilgrim> wastrel, nah.
[08:59] <intelikey> you will probably need root access.  i.e.  rebooting to single user mode.   and add your self back to the admin group.    your groupmod command is that culpret pilgrim
[09:00] <wastrel> pilgrim:  i dunno what's wrong with it...
[09:00] <pilgrim> intelikey, why groupmod?!!!
[09:00] <pilgrim> oh!!!!!
[09:00] <pilgrim> !!!!!
[09:00] <ubotu> pilgrim: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:00] <pilgrim> wastrel, couldn't be. I used -G
[09:00] <johanbr> slide: Alright, that source package will hopefully work. In case you're not familiar with building debs from source, I put up a very short guide for that at http://nullinfinity.org/deb-build-src . It's for a completely different package but the changes you need to make should be more or less evident.
[09:00] <pilgrim> intelikey, ^^^ i used groupmod -G not -g
[09:01] <intelikey> pilgrim can you cat /etc/groups
[09:01] <intelikey> err no s
[09:01] <pilgrim> intelikey, I figured.
[09:01] <slide> johanbr, thakns :)
[09:02] <pilgrim> insidious, yeah that's it. I'm not longer in admin group
[09:02] <pilgrim> intelikey, ^^^
[09:02] <intelikey> imagen that...
[09:02] <pilgrim> intelikey, F*
[09:02] <johanbr> slide: No problem. Good luck with dovecot.
[09:02] <slide> thanks :)
[09:03] <pilgrim> intelikey, so what exactly happened?
[09:03] <pilgrim> do you figure?
[09:03] <Alakazam> whats the benifit of using sudo over the standard "su -"
[09:03] <timfrost> !sudo
[09:03] <pilgrim> Alakazam, can't use su - in ubuntu
[09:03] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:04] <Alakazam> ubotu, i know how to change the root passwd, i just wonder about the benifit of using sudo... whats the point.
[09:04] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Alakazam
[09:04] <insidious> pilgrim, stop saying my name!
[09:04] <insidious> pilgrim, :)
[09:04] <pilgrim> insidious, what?
[09:04] <pilgrim> insidious, lol. sorry.
[09:04] <wastrel> Alakazam:  you don't need to know the root password to use sudo, /etc/sudoers  allows fine-grained control over who can do what
[09:04] <Alakazam> aah
[09:04] <Alakazam> there we go, ty wastrel
[09:05] <timfrost> pilgrim, 'usermod -G ' sets the list of groups for the user explicitly to *only* those groups in the list.
[09:05] <Madpilot> ubotu tell Alakazam about yourself
[09:05] <pilgrim> timfrost, NOOO. shoot. I though it like adds...so what was I looking for then?
[09:06] <zebraFusion> is there such a thing as disk defragmentation for linux... From what I've read it is very unnecessary with the ext3 filesystem
[09:06] <newbuntie> If you're the only one using the box I'm guessing the only advantage is that noone can bruteforce the account named root, they have to guess both the username and the password
[09:06] <Alakazam> ty mad
[09:06] <redblade> timfrost, I really would appreciate if you could just paste bin the proper contents of sources.list
[09:06] <Alakazam> ty maddler
[09:06] <wastrel> pilgrim:  i always use vigr :] 
[09:06] <Alakazam> or Madpilot
[09:06] <pilgrim> wastrel, what's vigr???
[09:07] <pilgrim> !vigr
[09:07] <ubotu> pilgrim: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:07] <|GoDawgs|_> let's see if this is any better
[09:07] <wastrel> pilgrim:  it's like vipw,  let's you edit the /etc/group file relatively safely
[09:07] <slide> johanbr, what about with special compile options? How would I do that?
[09:07] <intelikey> an extention of vim
[09:07] <newbuntie> It has the disadvantage that most people use the account they have admin privilages on, so if they run a trojan they're giving their admin priviladges away
[09:07] <Madpilot> Alakazam: 3rd time lucky with the tab-complete! :P
[09:08] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[09:08] <|GoDawgs|_> hey
[09:08] <pilgrim> wastrel, but I think it's even better not to do it manually, there is tools like groupmod and stuff..I just got to read more carefully next time.
[09:08] <Alakazam> heheh, yeah... was having a prob there. haha
[09:08] <redblade> hey
[09:08] <linuxboyfriend> which kernel is shipped with ubuntu 5.10?
[09:08] <redblade> timfrost?
[09:08] <pilgrim> wastrel, so which groups is a "admin" user supposed to belong to?
[09:09] <newbuntie> really the end effect is that most ppl running ubuntu always run as admin just like windows users
[09:09] <intelikey> pilgrim man groupmod and i think you will see why you borked your sudo
[09:09] <wastrel> here's my list:  wastrel adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev lpadmin scanner nvram
[09:09] <intelikey> admin
[09:09] <pilgrim> intelikey, I think you mean usermod.
[09:09] <herede> usermod -G wheel yourname
[09:10] <jace> how do I do remote desktop in ubuntu?
[09:10] <herede> jace, you mean to or from ubuntu?
[09:10] <intelikey> didn't you say you ran groupmod eariler pilgrim ?
[09:10] <_GoDawgs_> Hey guys... where does Samba show up in the menu once it's installed?
[09:10] <pilgrim> wastrel, yeah yeah. but I think the culprit was usermod. Because usermod -G install added me to install and removed me from all else.
[09:10] <jace> to ubuntu
[09:11] <Alakazam> distros are straying away from original linux theory Madpilot ...
[09:11] <pilgrim> intelikey, ^^^^
[09:11] <Alakazam> when we get questions like... "_GoDawgs_ Hey guys... where does Samba show up in the menu once it's installed?" i worry about bash's future
[09:11] <intelikey> yeah that can do it too.
[09:12] <intelikey> anyway you got it fixed yet ?
[09:12] <pilgrim> intelikey, with groupmod I was just trying to lower GID for the group which was too late because I wasn't an admin anymore.
[09:12] <_GoDawgs_> Alakazam: Well, sorry... I don't know bash... I'm a new user of Ubuntu.
[09:12] <timfrost> redblade,  Official sources.lists are: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper).  They don't include plf.  I have for plf "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free" and the same with deb-src
[09:12] <_GoDawgs_> Alakazam: In my experience, it should auto show up once a program is installed....
[09:13] <ejofee> anybody know a place where i can find a recompiled libfreetype6 (using patented methods of font rendering)?
[09:13] <intelikey> pilgrim hehhe yeah thank God for little errors  lol
[09:13] <Alakazam> _GoDawgs_, in what distro
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Dapper!
[09:13] <Alakazam> intelikey, have you tried http://rpm.pbone.net/
[09:13] <Alakazam> ?
[09:13] <wastrel> why are you using dapper if you're a newbie?  hardware support?
[09:13] <Alakazam> whats dapper
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Yes, hardware support.
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Ubuntu Dapper?
[09:13] <wastrel> dapper is the unstable development branch
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Flight 4
[09:13] <Alakazam> aah
[09:14] <Alakazam> dapper is to ubuntu as cooker is to mandriva
[09:14] <Alakazam> right?
[09:14] <newbuntie> alakazam: windows :) and he's right, it should showup in the menu, no reason to break usability just to be part of the elite :)
[09:14] <intelikey> Alakazam no
[09:14] <ejofee> Alakazam: no. dapper is to ubuntu what mandriva 2007 is to mandriva.
[09:14] <Alakazam> newbuntie, what happens win the windows break ;)
[09:14] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  samba isn't an application & it doesn't have a menu entry afaik
[09:14] <Alakazam> oh ejofee i see.. :D
[09:14] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  what are you trying to do with samba
[09:14] <pilgrim> intelikey, wastrel, timfrost , insidious, thanks to you all for your help. Now I had to single user mode it.
[09:14] <wastrel> mandrake was a better name
[09:15] <Alakazam> i agree
[09:15] <jace> so how do I remote desktop to ubuntu?
[09:15] <ejofee> Alakazam: which means you are approximately... right.
[09:15] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: Oh okay... maybe that's the reason.... I'm trying to connect my Ubuntu box with my Windows boxes for file sharing and printer sharing
[09:15] <jjjjjjj> what is the sudo apt-get for asterisk?  thanks.
[09:15] <intelikey> yeah i liked mandrake 10
[09:15] <johanbr> slide: Sorry for taking a few minutes. debuild runs a script called debian/rules so you probably need to look at that script if you want to fiddle with the compile options.
[09:15] <intelikey> errr still do for that matter
[09:15] <Alakazam> mandriva 2006 is okay, its just too...
[09:15] <Alakazam> jumbled
[09:16] <slide> johanbr, np :) hehe, ok thanks alot for the help
[09:16] <thegladiator> is it posible that I download a asf file ? which is an online streamer ?
[09:16] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  try places > network servers   maybe
[09:16] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  i don't use samba...
[09:16] <_GoDawgs_> newbuntie: btw, I'm a girl... *grin*
[09:16] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: okay, I'll give it a shot...
[09:16] <thegladiator> it is going on buffering and I can see it in parts only
[09:16] <gnomefreak> jjjjjjj: sudo apt-get install
[09:16] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  and for printers  system > administration > printing
[09:17] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: You're good! :)
[09:17] <thegladiator> i am using gxine streamer
[09:17] <jjjjjjj> sudo apt-get asterisk is what googleshows
[09:17] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: Thank you!!  It worked!
[09:17] <jjjjjjj> oops... sorry
[09:17] <wastrel> rawk
[09:17] <jjjjjjj> your right
[09:17] <gnomefreak> jjjjjjj: to install it its apt-get install
[09:17] <w32> !raid
[09:17] <ubotu> from memory, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[09:19] <w32> !software raid
[09:19] <ubotu> w32: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:19] <newbuntie> GoDawgs: you're Monospace 9 on white background... but ok, "she's right" it is :)
[09:19] <jjjjjjj> and if i want to download it vs. the synaptic package?
[09:19] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: except for printing...
[09:19] <gnomefreak> jjjjjjj: find a deb if there is one
[09:19] <_GoDawgs_> newbuntie: I'm not sure what that means, so I'll just go with it... *grin*
[09:19] <sinaduel> I am a newbie, and I like to IM, is there a linux program for KDE that works like Trillian?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> sinaduel: gaim
[09:20] <jjjjjjj> under edubuntu i've been using gaim for msn
[09:20] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  it can't find your printer?
[09:20] <sinaduel> thankyou
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: well, the file finding was good... but the printer is a problem
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: yeah....
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> which sucks
[09:20] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  is your printer supported?
[09:20] <jjjjjjj> frickin wasted half a day playing with kopete then saw gaim was built in. <sigh>
[09:20] <wastrel> <3 gaim
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: how would i find out?
[09:20] <Alakazam> lol
[09:20] <wastrel> !printer
[09:20] <ubotu> somebody said printer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:20] <Alakazam> i like the beta
[09:20] <newbuntie> GoDawgs: it's the font in xchat...I'm just saying we're all just text here :)
[09:20] <Alakazam> lotsa changed
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> i would assume so.... wastrel it's an HP 1200... not exactly new
[09:20] <Alakazam> changes*
[09:21] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  and you have the windows side sharing it?
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: let me check it out
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: yeah... totally
[09:21] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  i'm going to be of limited help as i don't run windows...
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: I use it all the time on the windows side
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: no worries... i just appreciate what you are doing... which is fantastic!
[09:21] <bigfoot1> Music-listening problem at mp3.com. When I click a link on mp3.com, it asks what i want to do with the file (ending in asx). How do i listen to it?
[09:22] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: do you have mp3-playing enabled? (it's not by default...)
[09:22] <bigfoot1> for example, go to http://www.mp3.com/madonna/artists/49320/songs.html and click on one of the green arrows.
[09:22] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: yes i do.
[09:22] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i can listen to my mp3s on my computer.
[09:22] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: but this seems to be some other URL type i don't know how to work it.
[09:23] <wastrel> that's feeding me a wma
[09:23] <bigfoot1> wastrel: yes, so what can we do?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: can you open it with one of your mp3 enabled devices like totem or mplayer or something like that
[09:23] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: totem can't make it work
[09:23] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  that's your problem
[09:23] <wastrel> totem plugin is b0rked
[09:23] <wastrel> install mozilla-mplayer  <3
[09:23] <thegladiator> is it possible to let the buffer run for a minute os so ?
[09:23] <wastrel> what's asx and what's wma ?
[09:24] <wastrel> i thought wma was windows media
[09:24] <bigfoot1> wastrel: it works on xine. But first it gave me an error message
[09:24] <gnomefreak> wma is windoww i would try getting the w32codecs to see if they will play that
[09:24] <bigfoot1> wastrel: maybe asx is the streaming version of wma. (??).
[09:25] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: i have w32codecs
[09:25] <wastrel> heh i dunno
[09:25] <bigfoot1> so you guys don't recommend totem? Coz according to wastrel, totem plugin is borked.
[09:25] <wastrel> it played for me in mplayer plugin
[09:25] <amphi> bigfoot1: I like mplayer
[09:25] <bigfoot1> wastrel: you mean within your browser?
[09:25] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  yeah
[09:25] <bigfoot1> amphi: oh. yes, you do.
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: It worked!!! yay!!!!
[09:26] <wastrel> par-tay
[09:26] <bigfoot1> how can i set up mplayer to work in my opera browser.
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: I was expecting it to just show up... just took a little while for it to do so. )
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> :)
[09:26] <tga1> if I have a dir with internal hard links can I rsync it to an identical copy without any references to the source?
[09:26] <intelikey> vlc
[09:26] <wastrel> hmmm opera...
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> :)
[09:27] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  to pay me back you can learn vim :] 
[09:27] <jjjjjjj> ok my asterisk sudo apt-get install asterisk returned a couple errors.  can I uninstall what i just did via apt-get?
[09:27] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: totem works fine here - try totem-xine...
[09:27] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: No problem.................... what's VIM? :)
[09:27] <jjjjjjj> it's too late
[09:27] <benplaut> this is so annoying!!
[09:27] <jjjjjjj> in the day
[09:27] <zebraFusion> vi improved!
[09:28] <_GoDawgs_> ok, what's VI? :)
[09:28] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: _the_ editor - http://vim.org/
[09:28] <benplaut> firefox somehow enable something that when you scroll to the top of a page, it'll go back... anyone know why?
[09:28] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  vim is a text editor with a steep learning curve
[09:28] <zebraFusion> Programmers text editor
[09:28] <benplaut> !holy war
[09:28] <ubotu> benplaut: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:28] <friedCrumpet> Okay. So I screwed my ubuntu installation somehow, by deleting the user that had the ability to sudo.  Of course, I made a new user first that I _thought_ had admin ability, and must have as I was able to remove the original user.  Anyone able to help?
[09:28] <benplaut> bah
[09:28] <amphi> !pal benplaut
[09:28] <ubotu> amphi: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:28] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: ahhh.... ewe.... :)
[09:28] <amphi> ugh ;)
[09:29] <wastrel> heh ben is an emacs user
[09:29] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: Do you have an alternate payback method.... accept paypal?  LOL
[09:29] <wastrel> benplaut:  or were you talking about the mplayer/totem discussion ;] 
[09:29] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: ?
[09:29] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: never mind :)
[09:29] <eduardo> ola
[09:29] <soundray> jjjjjjj, apt-get remove packagename
[09:29] <_GoDawgs_> hello eduardo
[09:29] <benplaut> wastrel: i use jed :P
[09:29] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: vim is also nice for email composition
[09:30] <eduardo> hello
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: it is?  oh..... cool!  That's what I've got Evolution though :)
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> does the trick just grand
[09:30] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: bah, mutt
[09:30] <bigfoot1> somebody please help me get rid of lilypond-data. I've tried "sudo apt-get remove lilypond-data". and it doesn't work
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> nah.... it's a great program
[09:30] <soundray> friedCrumpet, you have to boot in recovery mode and add the new user to the admin group.
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: have you tried unloading it through Synaptic?
[09:30] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: certainly a great big program
[09:31] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: what is?
[09:31] <friedCrumpet> soundray: Yeah, I thought I did that
[09:31] <friedCrumpet> edited the group file
[09:31] <bigfoot1> _GoDawgs_: i tried removing it via synaptic, too, yes
[09:31] <intelikey> benplaut you like jed ????   ever try mc -e    (the built in editing feature of mc)
[09:31] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: and no love 'eh?
[09:31] <soundray> friedCrumpet, adduser newuser admin
[09:32] <kameron> man, i'm so pumped for dapper's official release.
[09:32] <bigfoot1> _GoDawgs_: no love. and because of this problem, i can't install any other thing
[09:32] <friedCrumpet> soundray: will try that.  I guess adding the users uid to the admin group isn't sufficient?
[09:32] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: evolution
[09:32] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: oh lordy.... wow.....
[09:32] <soundray> friedCrumpet, also check that your /etc/sudoers contains the line %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:32] <bigfoot1> file-removal problem. can someone help me.
[09:32] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: can you help bigfoot1?
[09:32] <friedCrumpet> yep, that is there
[09:32] <bigfoot1> amphi: can you help bigfoot1 again?
[09:32] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: it's a great program dude... I need it for my web design business.... works way better than outlook ever did
[09:33] <amphi> bigfoot1: dunno, what ails thee, alone and palely loitering? ;)
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: amphi is really good... despite his opinion on Evolution :)
[09:33] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, HEY
[09:33] <zebraFusion> I seriously don't understand why people use mail clients
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: dude... what up? :)
[09:33] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, go on skype doofus
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> i can't
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> i'm on dapper and don't have it on here yet
[09:33] <redblade> Do you have to pay to use skype?
[09:33] <bigfoot1> amphi: i can't remove something called "lilypond-data". i've tried removing via synaptic and cli.
[09:33] <bigfoot1> no good
[09:33] <redblade> from one skype to another?
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> redblade: not if your skype - skype
[09:33] <kameron> redblade, not for skype to skype calls
[09:33] <zebraFusion> Not skype in...
[09:33] <zebraFusion> Skype out, though... Yes
[09:33] <darkness_> Hi all, I decided to install ubutny 5.10 today after using windows for awhile. I've installed and used Ubuntu a few times before, and this time was no different except for when I tried to install java. It came up with a error message when I tried to install it. So, I'm wondering is I need to install anything before I try to install java?
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> but for Skypeout though yes...
[09:34] <redblade> But how do you get a skype number then?
[09:34] <_GoDawgs_> sign up for it
[09:34] <redblade> Oh.
[09:34] <kameron> !tell darkness_ about java
[09:34] <johanbr> bigfoot1: What's the exact error message?
[09:34] <zebraFusion> !restrictedformats
[09:34] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:34] <peej> bigfoot1 : wossit say when you do apt-get remove lilypond-data?
[09:34] <redblade> So the number is free?
[09:34] <jjjjjjj> thank you soundray
[09:34] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: i can switch over to winblows if ya' want
[09:34] <peej> bigfoot1 : and have you done an apt-get update first?
[09:34] <amphi> bigfoot1: what happens when you apt-get remove it?
[09:35] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: we've made HUGE strides tonight thanks to the help of wastrel... I can print and see my windows files :)
[09:35] <amphi> bigfoot1: can you paste bin the errors?
[09:35] <darkness_> Kameron: I've done everything it says to under the java part.
[09:35] <johanbr> _GoDawgs_: I downloaded the skype binary and it works reasonably well on dapper.
[09:35] <soundray> bigfoot1, lilypond-data needs kpsewhich to uninstall successfully
[09:35] <_GoDawgs_> johanbr: yeah, Seveas as built it too and has it through his repo
[09:35] <friedCrumpet> soundray: Ahh, I think I have it.  I added the UID to the group line, when it should have been the username... or so it appears
[09:35] <bigfoot1> johanbr: peej amphi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8943
[09:35] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103013&page=2&highlight=lilypond
[09:36] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  the last post of that thread
[09:36] <bigfoot1> soundray: oh, so i have to install kpse first?
[09:36] <bigfoot1> wastrel: ok. i'll take a look
[09:36] <LiteHedded> how do I add a dir to my path?
[09:36] <soundray> bigfoot1, kpsewhich is supplied by tetex-bin. Make sure you have that package and kpsewhich in the path for the installer.
[09:36] <redblade> The Skype website says you have to pay to get a skype number!
[09:36] <bigfoot1> soundray: how do i do that?
[09:37] <ipfw> you do, for incoming calls & skype-out (call a normal phone)
[09:37] <soundray> redblade, that's only so you can be called from a landline.
[09:37] <redblade> But I'm not sure I understand
[09:37] <amphi> bigfoot1: it tells you what to do: apt-get install --reinstall lilypond-data
[09:37] <cafuego> But skype is such crap audio quality, don't bother.
[09:37] <amphi> bigfoot1: and then remove it
[09:37] <redblade> how do I call another skype?
[09:37] <ipfw> cafuego, what do you use ?
[09:37] <redblade> wouldn't I need a number to do that?
[09:37] <ipfw> redblade, www.skype.org documentation section explains
[09:38] <soundray> bigfoot1, sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin ; sudo kpsewhich (should say "Missing argument").
[09:38] <wisie> im trying to create a database in mysql, is there anything I have to do before I can create the DB? Like login or anything? mysql is startin but is there anything else needeD?
[09:38] <_GoDawgs_> so 3 down.... 3 more issues to go before I can fully dump winblows... yea!!!
[09:38] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: you must have had a bad experience because everytime I've used Skype it's rocked!
[09:38] <redblade> ipfw, there is no skype.org
[09:38] <soundray> redblade, no, you just need the other person's skype name. But this isn't the place for skype support.
[09:39] <bigfoot1> amphi: i tried doing the --reinstall thing. here's what i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8944
[09:39] <redblade> okay sorry
[09:39] <_GoDawgs_> redblade: there's another project that's opensource, it's called Gizmo....
[09:39] <ipfw> redblade, well, there was the last time I used skype :)
[09:39] <newbuntie> redblade: skype is just like aim, yahoo messanger, msn etc, it's  a network of users of software allowing communication, it started out as voice over ip but it does chat and webcams now
[09:39] <sinaduel> is there a windows emulator, if so, where can I find it, sorry for the stupid questions, I am a newbie
[09:39] <ipfw> redblade, try the .com it had both
[09:39] <ablomen> !wine
[09:39] <redblade> I have the .com open
[09:39] <_GoDawgs_> redblade: here's the URL:  www.gizmoproject.com
[09:39] <sinaduel> whankyou
[09:40] <soundray> cafuego, skype has reduced voice quality if you have to run it via port 80. It does this automatically when it can't open an inbound port for its own use.
[09:40] <bigfoot1> soundray: you want me to do "sudo kpsewhich" after doing "sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin"?
[09:40] <peej> bigfoot1: erm... so install kpsewhich first, then remove lilypond data?
[09:41] <soundray> bigfoot1, yes. That'll tell you if kpsewhich is in the path when you sudo.
[09:41] <bigfoot1> so whom do i follow: peej or soundray?
[09:41] <amphi> bigfoot1: damn - do what soundray said above
[09:41] <soundray> bigfoot1, me, me! :) No harm in trying both, I reckon.
[09:42] <Quinch> I have a question; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8945 . What's that "extension missing" thing and how to I fix it?
[09:42] <kameron> !info klik
[09:42] <amphi> soundray: well, reinstall lilypondstuff just bleated for kpsewhich...
[09:42] <peej> bigfoot1: souundray is diagnosing to zero in. I'm guessing without the diagnosing.
[09:43] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: the link is http://klik.atekon.de/
[09:43] <kameron> holla _GoDawgs_
[09:43] <_GoDawgs_> np
[09:43] <wastrel> my glasses are dirty
[09:44] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: can I kick my old nick outta here so I can reassume it?
[09:44] <_GoDawgs_> this sucks
[09:44] <zebraFusion> Why hasn't nmap 4.0 been released to dapper repos?
[09:44] <johanbr> Speaking of Skype, I think people should support open standards like SIP instead. Ekiga works fine for me.
[09:44] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, what do you mean kick it out? did you forget your password/
[09:44] <_GoDawgs_> johanbr: Gizmo is SIP
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: no no no.... it's my ghost nick that's never dropped off the channel
[09:45] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[09:45] <intelikey> Quinch XFree86-DRI   not xorg ?
[09:45] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  /msg nickserv ghost GoDawgs <password>
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> thanks amp
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> oops thanks amphi
[09:45] <Quinch> Intelikey: What the when now?
[09:45] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, ohhh, it's in the chan, yeah, what they said
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> yeah ok
[09:45] <zebraFusion> Why hasn't nmap 4.0 been released to dapper repos?
[09:45] <Quinch> Intelikey: Mind, I'm a complete newbie.
[09:46] <GoDawgs> cool beans
[09:46] <GoDawgs> Thanks guys :)
[09:46] <johanbr>  zebraFusion: Probably because no one had the time to package it before the upstream version freeze.
[09:46] <intelikey> the error says it's looking for Xfree86-DRI   ubuntu uses xorg by default  have you edited your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something ?
[09:46] <intelikey> Quinch ^
[09:46] <zebraFusion> what do you mean, upstream version freeze?
[09:46] <bigfoot1> guys, i did "sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin" as soundray advised, i still get some error (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8946). is this fine?
[09:46] <Quinch> Intelikey: Nope. Altough I did run Xserver-reconfig or whatever the syntax is....
[09:47] <Quinch> Intelikey: But that was in an attempt to resolve the pre-existing missing-thingy-problem.
[09:47] <Quinch> Intelikey: What's Xfree and xorg, by the way?
[09:48] <intelikey> yeah that edits it Quinch.  maybe disable dri in the config or install it one....
[09:48] <johanbr> zebraFusion: That means that since a few weeks ago, the packages in dapper will not have their sources refreshed from the original author's version, without a good reason for making an exception.
[09:48] <Quinch> Intelikey: Install it where? I've got an ATI9600SE, with the {I think} appropriate driver packages downloaded from Synaptic.
[09:48] <peej> Quinch: try apt-cache search glx and try installing relevant stuff. lspci may tell you what your card is.
[09:49] <zebraFusion> johanbr, I thought the deb packages on the repos were updated with the newest code every day?
[09:49] <amphi> zebraFusion: you did?
[09:49] <intelikey> Quinch  less /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and see if it has a line specifying XFree* in it    and maybe change it to just plain dri
[09:50] <ablomen> intelikey: you have to download the drivers from the ati site, but they dont run verry good, so you need a bit of luck 2
[09:50] <bigfoot1> guys, how do i play a file that starts with mms:// and ends with .wma?
[09:50] <johanbr> zebraFusion: That's the ubuntu developers making build changes and incorporating patches for bugs/security problems. No new program versions will be accepted from the outside.
[09:50] <peej> Quinch: ok, some of the stuff in xorg-driver-fglrx-dev may help. Meant for developers, but sometimes they don't bundle required stuff in user package.
[09:50] <zebraFusion> johanbr, oh.
[09:50] <intelikey> ah so the xorg driver is not going to work anyway....
[09:50] <amphi> bigfoot1: I'd try mplayer ;)
[09:50] <zebraFusion> johanbr, so even Dapper's packages are frozen right now... until the next build of Ubuntu?
[09:50] <intelikey> Quinch best bet is comment out the line altogather
[09:51] <ablomen> intelikey: well it cfan work but not by synaptics
[09:51] <bigfoot1> amphi: i still don't see mplayer on my "sound and video" menu.
[09:51] <ablomen> intelikey: there is a whole manual and stuff on the ati site try that
[09:51] <johanbr> zebraFusion: Yes, although exceptions are made in a few cases.
[09:51] <zebraFusion> johanbr, do many advanced users compile the code themselves for newer releases?
[09:51] <intelikey> ablomen care to dirrect that to quinch please
[09:52] <ablomen> Quinch: there is a whole manual and stuff on the ati site try that
[09:52] <intelikey> i have no x here  :)
[09:52] <amphi> bigfoot1: type mplayer mms://blah
[09:52] <amphi> bigfoot1: in a term
[09:52] <Quinch> Intelikey, there's no mention of "xfree" in xorg.conf.
[09:52] <bigfoot1> amphi: ok. but is there a gui version of mplayer? or is mplayer really for terminal/cli users?
[09:52] <ablomen> intelikey: sorry still early here ;)
[09:53] <Quinch> Ablomen, I've heard... less than favorable things regarding ATI's official drivers for Linux.
[09:53] <johanbr> zebraFusion: Depends. I rarely bother, unless it's something I really want. On the other hand, there was a guy in here a while ago who really needed a newer version of postfix (mail server software) than was available in dapper.
[09:53] <ablomen> Quinch: but its the best change youv got ;)
[09:53] <tenmon> ----   quick question: ubuntu64 + enlightenment 17 + .deb packages already compiled EXISTS? ------
[09:53] <Quinch> Ablomen: Luvverly.
[09:54] <intelikey> quinch ok we've been talking about you.    best bet is probably not to use dri   but if you must check the ati site  for the howto     and ablomen can probably help you more than me with that anyway.
[09:54] <amphi> bigfoot1: it's a command line X program (well, console also)
[09:54] <bigfoot1> amphi: the mplayer mms://blah works in terminal! thanks
[09:54] <soundray> bigfoot1, had to pop out - did you fix lilypond-data?
[09:54] <bigfoot1> soundray: yes.
[09:54] <Quinch> Intelikey, what are my options? I mean, I'm trying to get this working so I can use WINE.
[09:54] <johanbr> bigfoot1: There's a gui frontend called gmplayer, but it sucks.
[09:54] <bigfoot1> soundray: thanks. now i'm removing lilypond-data and tetex thingy
[09:55] <amphi> heh
[09:55] <wastrel> gmplayer sucks
[09:55] <soundray> bigfoot1, all that trouble just for removing...
[09:55] <bigfoot1> johanbr: i have, like 5 media players on my ubuntu: totem, xine, vlc, mplayer. realplayer10 because it seems one can't play all the dffreent types/formats. What are your thoughts, everyone?
[09:56] <bigfoot1> soundray: you a musician? or do you just carry a cool handle?
[09:56] <zebraFusion> I'm also curious
[09:56] <zebraFusion> Is there one player that can play all video codecs?
[09:56] <wastrel> they all work well on free formats i bet
[09:56] <soundray> bigfoot1, I used to work with medical ultrasound :)
[09:56] <Madpilot> totem-zine seems to handle everything I throw at it
[09:56] <Madpilot> -xine, actually
[09:56] <bigfoot1> cool, soundray.
[09:56] <wastrel> the problem is having to reverse engineer/kludge proprietary formats
[09:56] <amphi> bigfoot1: if mplayer doesn't play it, I don't watch it ;)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: all i dont know but the w32codecs should enable most playback
[09:56] <Madpilot> !w32codcs
[09:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Madpilot
[09:56] <bigfoot1> soundray: that kinda technology is getting better, isn't it.
[09:56] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[09:56] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:57] <zebraFusion> Madpilot, when you run an .avi for instance, does it open in the totem movie player or the xine?
[09:57] <intelikey> Quinch as i understand it, not that i have any ati cards, ati is not very unix friendly atm.   and you will need to visit the ati site for most of the help you get on that.     sorry there just arent any options really.
[09:57] <amphi> bigfoot1: worse, look at google's drm now
[09:57] <zebraFusion> Because I can't stand the UI for xine, I think it looks like it's out of the 90s.
[09:57] <Quinch> Intelikey: All right, thanks. I'll see if I can dig up anything from there.
[09:57] <johanbr> bigfoot1: Yep, totem-xine should be able to play almost anything. For the next release after dapper, totem-gstreamer should also be in good shape.
[09:57] <Madpilot> zebraFusion: installing totem-xine replaces the totem-gstreamer that Ubuntu comes with
[09:57] <Madpilot> zebraFusion: there's another player just called "xine", but totem-xine is a different animal
[09:58] <wastrel> yeah totem-xine is pretty good.  it's just the totem plugin that is bad :] 
[09:58] <jhunita> where can i get the latest drivers for nework modem (imac 17inch, g4)
[09:58] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i have totem-xine installed. but i can't seem to run it when i do "totem-xine" in cli. how do i run it?
[09:58] <johanbr> Madpilot: Yep, you have to choose one of them. I'd definitely recommend totem-xine over totem-gstreamer.
[09:58] <johanbr> bigfoot1: It's just "totem".
[09:58] <soundray> bigfoot1, find me in #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss ultrasound
[09:58] <bigfoot1> amphi: the tech i was refferring to was ultrasound tech.
[09:59] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: just start Totem from the menu, it'll be totem-xine
[09:59] <wastrel> medical ultrasound e
[09:59] <wastrel> eh
[09:59] <bigfoot1> johanbr: Madpilot, everyoneHere: so is totem-xine better than totem-gstreamer?
[09:59] <wastrel> my friend just had one she's 15 wks pregnant
[10:00] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i can't get totem to play a file that starts with mms:// and ends with .wma. can you?
[10:00] <sagarp> i have a computer and i've installed dapper on it and the xgl effects are quite nice...but direct rendering is disabled...so does that mean i can run xgl on a computer without an nvidia card?
[10:00] <amphi> bigfoot1: oh, sorry, I thought you were still on about codecs and players
[10:00] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: but i can play that file in mplayer
[10:00] <bigfoot1> amphi: no probl
[10:00] <bigfoot1> em
[10:00] <soundray> wastrel *hrm* #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:00] <wastrel> heh
[10:00] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: that's some sort of streaming video, isn't it? I've never bothered with streaming video, it never worked for me even in XP... :P
[10:00] <johanbr> bigfoot1: Yes. My only issue with totem-xine is that the sound on some .mov files stutters. Apart from that, it's much better than -gstreamer.
[10:00] <intelikey> bigfoot1 better is a relative term,  are apples better than orenges ?
[10:00] <wastrel> i'm going to sleep.  it's past my bedtime
[10:01] <GoDawgs> bye everyone....
[10:01] <bigfoot1> GoDawgs: bye
[10:01] <zebraFusion> I don't know about orenges, but I'd forsure say they're better than oranges. ;)
[10:01] <GoDawgs> bigfoot1: oh good night :)
[10:01] <GoDawgs> take care
[10:01] <GoDawgs> amphi: thank you so much.... for everything
[10:01] <GoDawgs> Madpilot: you too! :)
[10:01] <GoDawgs> Night night
[10:01] <amphi> see ya, GoDawgs
[10:01] <bigfoot1> everyone: I heard that VLC is supposed to be the all-in-one media (audio, video) player. what are your thoughts on this, people?
[10:02] <johanbr> sagarp: Well... you need something that has decent hw acceleration, which probably means nvidia, ati and maybe intel. Running xgl on the opensource nv driver would not work well, if at all.
[10:02] <amphi> .
[10:02] <bigfoot1> amphi: your thought is a "period"?
[10:03] <intelikey> in hoary it left some to be desired.   a year could make all the differance,  idk bigfoot1
[10:03] <amphi> bigfoot1: that was a lurch
[10:03] <bigfoot1> amphi: whats a lucrh
[10:03] <bigfoot1> intelikey: idk means "i don't know"?
[10:03] <amphi> bigfoot1: my thought is 'mplayer', but I fear you will think I'm a monomaniac
[10:03] <bigfoot1> intelikey: a year means "dapper"?
[10:03] <intelikey> yeah
[10:03] <intelikey> no hoary
[10:04] <johanbr> bigfoot1: vlc does play quite a few formats, but it segfaults on my amd64. Also, the UI is unbearably ugly.
[10:04] <bigfoot1> amphi: hey, i'm happy mplayer can play this mms://blahblah.com/file.wma, so i'm happy
[10:04] <intelikey> the ubuntu that is not quite a year old yet that everyone calls 'crap'
[10:04] <bigfoot1> johanbr: yes it's ugly on my gnome/breezy
[10:04] <bigfoot1> johanbr: it seems linux is not known for looking pretty
[10:04] <sagarp> johanbr, my laptop has an SiS integrated card...i'm guessing this isn't good enough?
[10:05] <amphi> intelikey: it's windows, teaches 'em to admire large version numbers ;)
[10:05] <intelikey> i guess
[10:05] <bigfoot1> any opera users here?
[10:05] <zebraFusion> Linux can be rediculously better looking than Windows
[10:05] <zebraFusion> www.gnome-look.org
[10:05] <bigfoot1> when i say opera, i mean opera browser.
[10:06] <johanbr> sagarp: If you have opengl (3d) apps running at acceptable speed with the standard X server, you *might* be able to use Xgl. I wouldn't bet on it, though.
[10:06] <bigfoot1> zebraFusion: but can gnome-look.org make vlc look nice?
[10:06] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: yeah, I use it
[10:06] <zebraFusion> bigfoot1, is it GTK?
[10:06] <bigfoot1> Madpilot:  hi5
[10:06] <sagarp> johanbr, glxgears runs fine without much skipping...i guss i'll jsut try it
[10:06] <bigfoot1> zebraFusion: yes, i think vlc is gtk. Am i correct everyone? Is VLC a gtk program?
[10:06] <intelikey> i always wondered why a release was 'so wonderfully better than everything' just before it was released then in a month was 'just another botched attempt at cloning m$'   lol
[10:06] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: try the Opera 9beta test release - it's very slick, and seems very stable on Breezy
[10:07] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: can you play embedded media within your opera?
[10:07] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: yes, i'm on Opera 9 TP2.
[10:07] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i love it.
[10:08] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: I've never bothered setting it up - I prefer downloading stuff. Streaming audio works fine, though - Opera just hands it off to Rhythymbox
[10:08] <soundray> sagarp: 'man sis' indicates that the driver has 2D acceleration, which is nice, but may not be good enough for xgl.
[10:08] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: what does opera do with files that are mms://blahblah.com/file.wma?
[10:08] <johanbr> sagarp: Alright. glxgears can run pretty fast without hw accel - something like Quake would be a better test. Basically, what I'm saying is that if you have DRI enabled there's at least some hope that Xgl will run at acceptable speed.
[10:08] <bigfoot1> or ...asx
[10:09] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: if you tweak Opera a bit, it just hands it over to your default audio app - Rythymbox does that, like I said
[10:09] <Madpilot> !tell bigfoot1 about opera
[10:09] <wisie> i keep trying to create a DB in mysql, its my first time ! but i seem to be getting errors.. can anyone lend a hand?
[10:09] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: see the Opera wiki page, it's got a bunch of stuff for getting Opera more co-ordinated with Gnome
[10:09] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i AM using opera as we speak. I'm even chatting to you within opera's chat client.
[10:10] <intelikey> sis   ?
[10:10] <intelikey> what's that ?
[10:10] <bigfoot1> !tell bigfoot1 about opera
[10:10] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: so am I, actually
[10:10] <johanbr> intelikey: Graphics chipset.
[10:10] <soundray> intelikey, an xorg driver for SiS video chipsets.
[10:10] <bigfoot1> what's the link for opera wiki?
[10:10] <bigfoot1> sorry, i closed the uboto page
[10:11] <Madpilot> !opera
[10:11] <ubotu> opera is, like, totally, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:11] <intelikey> oh ok,  it's not a command then.   hehhe had me searching....
[10:12] <intelikey> i wrote a script called sis = system information server  that coughs out system info on demand,   i was hopping there wasn't another  'sis'  command
[10:12] <fatejudger> is there a way to get the closed source driver for Intel Integrated Graphics chips on Linux?
[10:13] <fatejudger> the default one's seem to be a little slow
[10:13] <johanbr> intelikey: To avoid confusion, you can refer to one of those things as "little sis" and the other as "big sis". :)
[10:13] <intelikey> :)
[10:13] <soundray> intelikey, 'man 4x sis'. And if you put your script in /usr/local/bin, it'll be executed even if there is a name conflict.
[10:13] <bigfoot1>  Madpilot the wiki does'nt say anything about playing embedded media in opera
[10:14] <soundray> intelikey, sorry, you know that. I forgot you're intelikey.
[10:14] <intelikey> soundray that's where all my scripts go
[10:14] <bali30001> HAI
[10:14] <bali30001> TOLONG BANTU AKU LAGI MAU PENGEN ANUHMU
[10:14] <soundray> opera is evil.
[10:14] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: for streaming media, see the section on using gnome-open
[10:15] <wisie> can anyone help me out with setting a db up in mysql? (A)
[10:15] <soundray> wisie, what's that error you are getting?
[10:16] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: you mean "Default File Handler=gnome-open ,1"
[10:16] <bigfoot1> ?
[10:17] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i haven't even fixed up my gnome desktop yet.
[10:17] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: yes, that's the one
[10:17] <jason_> hey need a hand here.. i want to install macromedia flash.. i already downloaded it, but i haven't installed it yet.. how can i install this???
[10:17] <Madpilot> !flash
[10:17] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:17] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: in other words, i don't know what program will work with this or that media type/media source
[10:17] <wisie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8947
[10:17] <wisie> thats the problem, its a bit weird? :S
[10:18] <jason_> !flash
[10:18] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can someone tell me how to get the temp sensors on my mainboard to be used by linux?
[10:18] <viviersf> !FreeFormats
[10:18] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:18] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: install all the various codecs, and Rhythymbox will work...
[10:18] <jason_> !flash
[10:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i am hopeing to set up something that if the temps get to high then it loggs it to a file and shutsdown
[10:18] <Madpilot> rhythymbox, even... :P
[10:19] <Madpilot> !tell ChurcH_of_FoamY about sensors
[10:19] <soundray> wisie, you have to 'sudo mysql' and create the database with GRANT, giving your user access at the same time. Don't ask me for details, I just have faint memories of setting up a db...
[10:19] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: RB will work with mms://blah.com/file.wma, too?
[10:19] <bigfoot1> amphi: can your mplayer play this : http://sg1.allmusic.com/cg/smp.dll?link=smnyml8jahqdnc0z4jzdcb3&z=MP3&r=20.asx?
[10:19] <wisie> ahh ok thanks soundray :) thought i was missing something.
[10:19] <ejofee> why do i see some fonts in kde which i don't see in x11?
[10:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Madpilot, thanx man this should help out alot ^_^
[10:19] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: yes, it should - I don't usually use wma streams, though
[10:20] <soundray> wisie, that's not to say it wouldn't work with mysqladmin -- perhaps if you sudo it.
[10:20] <foxpaul> how can i enable the backspace key as delete in vi, anyone?
[10:20] <intelikey> fix_bs_and_del
[10:20] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: but AFAIK the wma streams at http://www.radioparadise.com/index.php do work - they've got streams in nearly every format, it's a good site to test on
[10:20] <wisie> soundray:  no luck, not sure whats going on..  just doesnt want to create.. ill ask around.
[10:21] <foxpaul> intelikey, howsat?
[10:21] <intelikey> oh foxpaul sorry i missed the in vi  part    that would be in the .vimrc  i think.
[10:21] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i think i have all the various codecs installed, but just to make sure, i want to try the command for installing them. what should i run?)
[10:21] <foxpaul> intelikey, ok i'll have a look ta
[10:22] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: all the info you need should be here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:22] <foxpaul> intelikey, do you know the syntax for the vimrc?
[10:22] <intelikey> actually i never have learned to like vi/m   so no.   but man vimrc might know
[10:23] <intelikey> there is not any vi installed here
[10:23] <jason_> hey guys how can i install flash here, please help.. i already downloaded the flash installer but i don't know how to install it...
[10:23] <nolo> how i do to reinstall apache2. I have removed the apache2 directory :)
[10:23] <amphi> bigfoot1: no, but unfortunately it can play what that points to, "mms://sg5.allmusic.com/020wma_28/s103/s10369/s1036910/s103691002kcqe1.wma"
[10:24] <intelikey> jason_ last time you asked someone posted the link to the wiki for you
[10:24] <intelikey> but i'll do it again.
[10:24] <intelikey> !flash
[10:24] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:24] <amphi> bigfoot1: please don't ask me to test with such horrors ;)
[10:24] <intelikey> there  ^
[10:24] <bigfoot1> amphi: what do you mean?
[10:24] <bigfoot1> oh no, i accidentally ran "sudo apt-get install xine-gstreamer". now it's removing my xine-totem. oops
[10:25] <amphi> bigfoot1: the link you gave me is just some redirect to the url I gave you, which mplayer played - I didn't like it, it gave me an unpleasant shock
[10:25] <intelikey> so why are they mutually exclusive anyway ?
[10:25] <bigfoot1> what advantages does totem-gstreamer have over totem-xine (and vice versa)?
[10:25] <bigfoot1> intelikey: yes.
[10:25] <bigfoot1> installing one will remove the other.
[10:26] <nolo> anyone knows how i do to reinstall apache2?. I have removed the apache2 directory :)
[10:26] <intelikey> so "why are they" mutually exclusive anyway ?
[10:26] <bigfoot1> amphi: yeah, i wish they gave the direct link.
[10:26] <r> who r u
[10:26] <myren> i want back in #web.  Unban the east coast.
[10:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> madpilot can you help me with something?
[10:26] <bimberi> nolo: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[10:26] <bigfoot1> intelikey: your usage of quotes doesn't help change my understanding of what you wrote.
[10:26] <nolo> ok thks
[10:27] <elkbuntu> myren if both your nicks are registered, you should take that conversation to a private dialog
[10:27] <myren> the punk banned the east coast then went to bed
[10:27] <myren> i'm just making sure everyone knows he is an evil man
[10:27] <intelikey> bigfoot1 i wasn't asking if they were,   but why they were    'mutually exclusive'
[10:27] <bigfoot1> amphi: you know what my wish is then? for mplayer to follow redirects
[10:27] <elkbuntu> private conversation is more likely to beep him
[10:27] <amphi> bigfoot1: it's trivial to write a little script to grab the real url from the redirect and feed it to mplayer
[10:27] <elkbuntu> and less likely to piss uss off
[10:28] <bigfoot1> intelikey: i understand now.
[10:28] <bigfoot1> amphi: why is it trivial 4 u?
[10:28] <bigfoot1> amphi: don't you want to save time
[10:28] <amphi> bigfoot1: I mean it is easy
[10:28] <insidious> is there a way for raw access to a USB device that isn't "supported" (read: old USB camera)
[10:28] <G_zErO> hi i was wondering how to mount a ntfs hard drive
[10:28] <nolo> bimberi, it install apache2, but don't meke directory apache2 in /etc/apache2
[10:29] <OmegaAlpha> anyone familiar with the source o matic web site?
[10:29] <bigfoot1> amphi: please teach me. or give me
[10:29] <amphi> bigfoot1: no; and no ;) you can do it in shell, looks like - I already deleted the asx file
[10:30] <G_zErO> hi i was wondering how to mount a ntfs hard drive
[10:30] <bigfoot1> amphi: madpilot said a good place to try different types of media is http://www.radioparadise.com/index.php. I tried the top one (mp3) and it won't play in mplayer
[10:30] <bigfoot1> amphi: i'm no programmer.
[10:30] <bigfoot1> amphi: i'm just a point-and-click kinda guy.
[10:30] <intelikey> !ntfs
[10:30] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:30] <amphi> bigfoot1: good time to learn ;)
[10:30] <bigfoot1> amphi: i may look like a nerd, but unfortunately, i'm not really one.
[10:31] <bimberi> nolo: hmkk.  well you could try 'sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 && apt-get install apache2' then
[10:31] <intelikey> ah come on, be a geek !
[10:31] <nolo> thks bimberi, i see
[10:32] <bigfoot1> amphi: how come the links on the upper left area of pirateradio.org don't work with mplayer?
[10:32] <bigfoot1> amphi: sorry, i meant radioparadise.com
[10:32] <testrun> hi there, are there any developers around?
[10:33] <testrun> the new live cd has an serieuz bug
[10:33] <exqi> ./server us.undernet.org
[10:33] <nolo> 'sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 && apt-get install apache2' don't works :(
[10:33] <testrun> as there is no fb ( frame buffer device ) available
[10:34] <intelikey> nolo there is an sudo missing
[10:34] <gnomefreak> testrun: the dapper live cd?
[10:34] <testrun> yes , the new one
[10:34] <intelikey> 'sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2'
[10:34] <NET||abuse> !Xgl
[10:34] <nolo> yes, i'm like rot
[10:34] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:34] <nolo> root
[10:34] <gnomefreak> testrun: new is not the right word new would imply it was released
[10:34] <testrun> gnomefreak, do you know anything about it?
[10:34] <testrun> latest release
[10:34] <testrun> :)
[10:35] <gnomefreak> testrun: file a bug (thats all you can really do at this point in the development)
[10:35] <testrun> were?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> testrun: latest release is breezy 5.10
[10:35] <intelikey> nolo have you tried sudo dkpg-reconfigure apache2 ?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> testrun: launchpad
[10:35] <nolo> no, i', going
[10:35] <nolo> :)
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !bugs
[10:35] <intelikey> to see what it purped out
[10:36] <testrun> hmm, so , i understand you correctly , that 5.10 live cd is the standerd right now
[10:36] <testrun> and the " flight " is unstable as in testing?
[10:36] <testrun> live cd version
[10:36] <gnomefreak> testrun: yes dapper 6.04 will not be released unti april 20th
[10:36] <intelikey> yep
[10:36] <theshibboleth> how do I get quicktime files working in firefox?
[10:37] <testrun> ok, i hope they iron out this mistake
[10:37] <nolo> it don't works
[10:37] <gnomefreak> flight as in not in beta form yet
[10:37] <nolo> :(
[10:37] <gnomefreak> testrun: file a bug so they know about it
[10:37] <intelikey> nolo what did it say ?
[10:37] <testrun> becuase many laptops depend on it ( fb , frame buffer device )
[10:37] <nolo> i don't know what more cain i do
[10:37] <intelikey> read the error messages that it spewed out
[10:38] <testrun> do you have an url? would be helpful
[10:38] <bimberi> nolo: ok, try it with apache2-common (apologies for the missing sudo before)
[10:38] <intelikey> and any recomendations on how to fix
[10:38] <nolo> nothing, when i do: sudo apache2 restart, it says: "could not open config file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf"
[10:39] <gnomefreak> testrun: not off hand im in windows let me see if i can find it
[10:39] <LiteSLEEP> how do i delete the original files with unrar?
[10:39] <nolo> reinstall apache2-common ??
[10:40] <bimberi> nolo: yes, i checked that package and it appears to deal with /etc/apache2/...
[10:40] <nolo> oks, let's probe
[10:40] <LiteSLEEP> how do i delete the original files with unrar?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> testrun: here http://launchpad.net/malone
[10:42] <intelikey> LiteSLEEP you mean overwrite ?
[10:42] <LiteSLEEP> no
[10:42] <LiteSLEEP> remove the original rar files after extracting
[10:42] <intelikey> no idea
[10:42] <intelikey> oh rm
[10:42] <LiteSLEEP> yea but i think there's an option in unrar to do it
[10:43] <unimatrix9> gnomefreak
[10:43] <intelikey> back to   no idea  then
[10:44] <ubuntutestrun> gnomefreak : i will file the bug report later
[10:45] <ubuntutestrun> laptop battery went dead...have to recharge it, and i have to go to work
[10:45] <ubuntutestrun> sorry, that i went offline while talking
[10:45] <ubuntutestrun> see you later, i will google for the bug report, or come back here to ask
[10:46] <ompaul> ubuntutestrun, launchpad.net
[10:46] <ubuntutestrun> bug : "flight live cd" no FB device , no framebuffer ( for laptops essential )
[10:46] <nolo> bimberi, reintall apache2-common rocks :D
[10:46] <nolo> thanks
[10:46] <ubuntutestrun> ok, book marked launchpad !
[10:47] <ubuntutestrun> see you all around!
[10:47] <ubuntutestrun> bye
[10:47] <ubuntutestrun> - off to work -
[10:47] <intelikey> yes we will see you  'all around' also
[10:47] <chiwawa_42> is there a way to use smart dualhead on an ATI card like Twinview on a nvidia?
[10:48] <bigfoot1> i played a music file via nautilus/right-click/OpenWith...mplayer. I can hear the song playing, but how do i stop it?
[10:49] <intelikey>  lol  killall mpluyer   maybe
[10:49] <intelikey> errr sudo that
[10:50] <bigfoot1> intelikey: thanks.
[10:50] <intelikey> yeah  killall is your friend
[10:50] <bigfoot1> intelikey: kill kill kill
[10:51] <intelikey> kill kill is like echo '' > /dev/null  isn't it ?
[10:51] <intelikey> echo nothing to nowhere
[10:52] <possie> where can i download the latest dapper ?
[10:52] <intelikey> flight 4
[10:53] <G_zErO> i need a sam file password recovery program any one know one
[10:54] <bimberi> !flight4
[10:54] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[10:54] <intelikey> john the ripper "might" be able to do that,
[10:55] <intelikey> but why am i helping you pirate software ??????
[10:55] <Bergcube> Haha.  "John the ripper"!  ROTFL.
[10:55] <G_zErO> a legal software
[10:56] <Bergcube> Very very cool!
[10:56] <G_zErO> need a freeware or shareware version of a sam file password recovery
[10:56] <G_zErO> any one know
[10:57] <intelikey> Bergcube did i say something funny ?
[10:58] <Bergcube> intelikey~  Nah, it's me that's overtired.  Just had never heard about that SW.  Don't feel offended: no harm intended.
[10:58] <intelikey> SW ?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> wonders*
[10:59] <intelikey> 'nomefreak i knoe what you mean.....
[11:00] <gnomefreak> now see i just spent the last 2 hours looking for something with google and it was no help but that was expected :(
[11:01] <gnomefreak> but a simple search on dapper drake flight 4 will give you a link for download
[11:02] <intelikey> that's the kind of 'googling' i do....  hehhe   the kind that turns up 4trillion hits and not one of them applies to my search.... they are all an addvertizement for hair care products or something.....
[11:03] <gnomefreak> lol that would be the ones :)
[11:03] <dbzdeath> would an athlon 64 3800+ dual core use a 686-smp kernel or a 386-smp kernel?
[11:03] <intelikey> amazing how google kinws it's me and always hides all the good links.....
[11:03] <gnomefreak> im looking for dreamweavers for win i have my keycode but lost the cd and all they have is trials and the keycode doesnt work for trials
[11:04] <intelikey> check ebay
[11:04] <gnomefreak> i thought about it
[11:04] <gnomefreak> i just didnt want to buy it again :(
[11:05] <bimberi> dbzdeath: there is only 686-smp
[11:05] <intelikey> dbzdeath yes
[11:05] <dbzdeath> bimberi: ah.. so i should use a 686-smp?
[11:06] <bimberi> dbzdeath: i'd give it a go, but then i'm a cowboy with that sort of thing :P
[11:06] <intelikey> dbzdeath 64 bit ?      32 ?
[11:06] <Yagisan> dbzdeath: ideally you want k7-smp, if not then 686-smp
[11:06] <dbzdeath> intelikey: 32bit
[11:07] <intelikey> k just checking
[11:07] <dbzdeath> Yagisan: but isn't an athlon 64 k8?
[11:07] <Yagisan> dbzdeath: yes, but k7 kernels work fine
[11:07] <gnomefreak> dbzdeath: not with dual core
[11:07] <Shin_Gouki> hello there can someone plz tell me the command for mounting manually a cdrom ?
[11:07] <dbzdeath> so i should use k7-smp?
[11:07] <robbie_> X keeps crashing my system
[11:07] <gnomefreak> well it is but the smp runs the dual core better
[11:08] <Yagisan> dbzdeath: I would.
[11:08] <dbzdeath> Yagisan: ok thanks
[11:08] <robbie_> I want to run the xorgconfigure script but its not on here
[11:08] <Yagisan> dbzdeath: your welcome
[11:08] <bimberi> dbzdeath: yes - i should of thought of that, thanks Yagisan
[11:08] <gnomefreak> robbie_: what did you do to it from lastnight to this morning (thinking it worked lastnight)
[11:08] <intelikey> Shin_Gouki  sudo mount /dev/hd? /mnt/cdrom         but make sure the mount point is there   and   ? is a letter
[11:08] <robbie_> installed ubuntu
[11:09] <robbie_> updated all packages
[11:09] <robbie_> it didnt work lastnight either
[11:09] <gnomefreak> robbie_: still using breezy?
[11:09] <robbie_> yep
[11:09] <gnomefreak> robbie_: can you get to tty1?
[11:09] <robbie_> ttyl?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ctrl+alt+F1
[11:10] <robbie_> yep
[11:10] <intelikey> not tty L   tty one
[11:10] <gnomefreak> intelikey: i used a 1 :)
[11:10] <robbie_> usually when it crashes, I just go there and back to alt+f7
[11:10] <robbie_> but sometimes it totally halts the system
[11:10] <robbie_> monitor turns off
[11:10] <intelikey> robbie didn't
 ttyl?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> robbie_: run sudodpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and answer the questions make sure you know what vc montier and stuff is
[11:11] <gnomefreak> oh sorry intelikey
[11:11] <gnomefreak> vc=video card
[11:11] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg*
[11:12] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:12] <intelikey> just to confuse things...
[11:12] <intelikey> :)
[11:12] <gnomefreak> its early we are allowed to confuse people :)
[11:13] <intelikey> or maybe un-con-fuzz
[11:13] <sando> hi
[11:13] <sobersabre> hi sando
[11:13] <intelikey> dcf574ee what's on your mind ?
[11:14] <sando> is anybody alive?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> lol i was just looking at my windows desktop and it looks like i have every program i have in ubuntu in win too :)
[11:14] <sobersabre> guys. how can I determine who ( I mean which means ) launches esd ? I've turned esd off, and every now and then I see esd process in the processes list.
[11:14] <sando> cool, there is
[11:14] <sobersabre> sando I am not alive at all.
[11:14] <ablomen> sando: yes just ask your question and people who know the answer wil answer ;)
[11:14] <sando> righto
[11:14] <intelikey> or possably those that dont
[11:14] <ablomen> lol
[11:15] <sando> well, where's the download link for "Ubuntu Breezy Badger Server Edition
[11:15] <sando> "
[11:15] <robbie_> ok I just ran that, ill kill X now
[11:15] <sando> that's my question, mainly
[11:15] <robbie_> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:15] <ablomen> sando: the server install is on the normal install cd
[11:15] <gnomefreak> sando: sever is part of reg install cd
[11:15] <Yagisan> sando: take one "normal" breezy cd. Insert Cd. type "server: at boot prompt. done :)
[11:15] <nicolito> hello
[11:15] <sando> i know, but aparantely there is a seperate cd as well
[11:15] <gnomefreak> when you boot the cd type server and it will give you server install
[11:15] <gnomefreak> sando: no ther eisnt
[11:15] <Yagisan> sando: not until dapper
[11:15] <sando> ah, ok
[11:16] <nicolito> where can I ask a question about ubuntu?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> there isnt*
[11:16] <intelikey> server is part of the normal install....    at the boot prompt of the install type server
[11:16] <ablomen> nicolito: here ;)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> nicolito: here
[11:16] <nicolito> thanks
[11:16] <sando> here ^_^
[11:16] <nicolito> I have many problems trying to "compile" a program I just downoaded
[11:16] <bimberi> sando: actually there is...
[11:16] <bimberi> !server
[11:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Yagisan: lol @ done hes got a long way to go that was just beginning :)
[11:16] <sando> thx dude
[11:17] <sando> i thought there was :p
[11:17] <bimberi> sando: yw :)
[11:17] <gnomefreak> bimberi: when was it finished?
[11:17] <ablomen> nicolito: witch program and what is your problem
[11:17] <intelikey> 2005-October
[11:17] <nicolito> Im trying to instal gtoaster. I downloaded a file "gtoaster1.0Beta6.tgz"
[11:18] <nicolito> I uncompressed in my desktop folder
[11:18] <bimberi> gnomefreak: it was announced in that message (19/10/2005)
[11:18] <nicolito> and "./configure"
[11:18] <gnomefreak> oh oops i missed that one :(
[11:18] <intelikey> rm that file and use    sudo apt-get install gtoaster
[11:18] <ablomen> nicolito: "sudo ./configure|
[11:18] <ablomen> nicolito: without the |
[11:18] <brenner> nicolito: what's wrong with the one in universe?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> !info gtoaster
[11:18] <ubotu> gtoaster: (Gnome Toaster, a GUI for creating CDs), section universe/gnome, is extra. Version: 0.2002083100+1.0Beta6-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 253 kB, Installed size: 796 kB
[11:18] <intelikey> sudo ./configure   no no no no no
[11:19] <nicolito> I typed su
[11:19] <nicolito> and then
[11:19] <gnomefreak> never use sudo with ./configure
[11:19] <nicolito> ./configure
[11:19] <nicolito> why?
[11:19] <sando> yeah, don't
[11:19] <sando> #>se
[11:19] <Pygi> gnomefreak: maiL? :P
[11:19] <sando> su*
[11:19] <ablomen> lol sorry its the configure thing thought it whas install
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ./configure needs to be run as user not root
[11:19] <bimberi> same repositories, just a cd image with a different selection of packages, ie. no xserver or gnome but server related things like apache2, databases...
[11:19] <nicolito> ok
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Pygi: mail?
[11:19] <nicolito> ok
[11:19] <nicolito> but
[11:19] <sando> you *can* run it as root, though
[11:19] <nicolito> it says
[11:19] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ah, nvm
[11:19] <ablomen> nicolito: but like people said just use synaptics
[11:20] <gnomefreak> you can but never good practice
[11:20] <nicolito> ./config.guess: No such file or directoryconfigure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
[11:20] <sando> synaptics...seriously....is the best package managment ever
[11:20] <ablomen> yes it is
[11:20] <intelikey> cause you put the system in a comprimised state and also you add files owned by root to your users home    besides the fact that you don't need root permission to configure or make   only to install
[11:20] <nicolito> this program isnt included in my repositories
[11:20] <gnomefreak> nicolito: does sudo apt-get install gtoaster not work for you?
[11:20] <nicolito> so synaptic doesnt find it
[11:20] <nicolito> no
[11:20] <intelikey> just to name a few reasons
[11:20] <gnomefreak> nicolito: add universe repo
[11:21] <ablomen> nicolito: you need to add the universe repository
[11:21] <xored> iam trying to use kvpnc to connect to a cisco-vpn client. Iam failing to run the program, cause he say, dcopserver is not running. When iam trying to start it ( as non root yet) it fails with : DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[11:21] <gnomefreak> !universe
[11:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:21] <xored> sorry, cisco-vpn-server
[11:21] <nicolito> ok
[11:22] <gnomefreak> brb its way too early for me to still be up
[11:22] <sando> i don't know much about cisco gear (i wish i did), but it could be the authentication protocols on the server are different from the client or vice versa
[11:22] <nicolito> but I will have to learn to compile, later or before
[11:23] <nicolito> didnt I?
[11:23] <ablomen> nicolito: not while using ubuntu and not to strange apps
[11:24] <ablomen> nicolito: synaptics does most of the work for you
[11:24] <intelikey> nicolito compiling isn't all it's cracked up to be,   and with most modern *nix's you never really need to compile anything anyway.   there are like 14k packages to install in the repos, why go outside that and compile your own ?
[11:24] <sando> for optimization's sake and configure options that you might require
[11:24] <sando> ;)
[11:25] <Chousuke> then you should just install gentoo :P
[11:25] <intelikey> like i said.  need -vs- want
[11:25] <ablomen> sando: yeah but then you would use gentoo etc';)
[11:25] <sando> yeah, true
[11:25] <nicolito> ok, but if I find a program in Internet that isnt included in the repositories?
[11:25] <answerguy> If nicolito want's to scrape his knuckles and learn how to get things compiled ... I say go for it.
[11:25] <ablomen> nicolito: youll search for the .deb package ;)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> nicolito: compiling can lead to unnessisery aggravation for the user :(
[11:25] <answerguy> However, this isn't the place to ask about how to do that.
[11:26] <sando> if it's not in the repositories, ./configure; make; make install
[11:26] <nicolito> ok
[11:26] <gnomefreak> psst checkinstall :)
[11:26] <nicolito> if I find a ".deb" package, what I have to do?
[11:26] <bigfoot1> how come when i used mplayer for my last file, it said "everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing proprietary and patentend technology.
[11:26] <bigfoot1> "
[11:26] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:26] <intelikey> nicolito if you find one and want to learn how to compile it we will help you gladly, but when there is a ubuntu package already made......
[11:26] <ablomen> nicolito: "sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:27] <gnomefreak> nicolito: sudo apt-get install it from universe repo
[11:27] <nicolito> ok
[11:27] <ablomen> nicolito: but youll find most apps in the reposetorys
[11:27] <answerguy> nicolito ... until you get more experience ... consider using apt-get -b source $PACKAGE_NAME
[11:28] <xored> iam trying to use kvpnc to connect to a cisco-vpn server. Iam failing to run the program, cause he say, dcopserver is not running. When iam trying to start it ( as non root yet) it fails with : DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[11:28] <gnomefreak> nicolito: also you might want to run sudo apt-get build-dep gtoaster if you are gonna compile it from tar
[11:28] <answerguy> That will have Debian/Ubuntu fetch and build the sources to a package
[11:28] <sando> and usually, it's bound to be in the 14000 packages that ubuntu caters for
[11:28] <answerguy> Then you can ull over the output and read through the make files to learn how it's all working
[11:28] <answerguy> You can MULL over, even
[11:28] <gnomefreak> sando: its up to around 18000 in breezy
[11:28] <sando> lol, yeah, true
[11:29] <intelikey> !dstats breezy
[11:29] <sando> xored: I'd say check the VERBOSE error logs
[11:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18495 packages, 1641 maintainers, 36717 MB installed size, 11347 MB compressed size.
[11:29] <sando> 11 gigs
[11:29] <gnomefreak> eh i was close
[11:29] <EricCartman-iboo> any breakage with the locales lately ?
[11:29] <sando> that's impressive
[11:29] <EricCartman-iboo> I've apt-get updated my system, and programs complain about the locales and don't work
[11:30] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: locales for what?
[11:30] <intelikey> 36 gig installed
[11:30] <brownie17> can anyone tell me how i might set up my computer to shut down after a certain amount of time?
[11:30] <xored> sando: how to start it verbose ? --verbose does not work
[11:30] <papa_lic> greetings
[11:30] <sando> Isn't there a BIOS option for that?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[11:30] <papa_lic> question aboput live cd
[11:30] <ablomen> brownie17: man shutdown
[11:30] <xored> sando: there is also no man entry for that
[11:31] <gnomefreak> papa_lic: ask please
[11:31] <intelikey> !dstats dapper
[11:31] <sando> xored: check the manual...i'd say or do a <command> --help
[11:31] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: breezy, with dapper repos
[11:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on dapper... 18481 packages, 1740 maintainers, 37331 MB installed size, 11496 MB compressed size.
[11:31] <papa_lic> I got stuck in login-screen
[11:31] <papa_lic> in estonian language
[11:31] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: the locale environment variables
[11:31] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: thats a very very bad idea
[11:31] <answerguy> brownie17: shutdown -h $TIME
[11:31] <brenner> er, getting java via the jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin method.  does it matter that i'm running the k7 krenel?
[11:31] <papa_lic> it wont log in under any circumstances
[11:31] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: they use different locales one wont work on other
[11:31] <xored> sando: as you see, i did both, there is no verbose option
[11:31] <answerguy> can-o-worms: sudo shutdown -h $TIME
[11:32] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: locale -a doesn't list the locale I want, any idea which package could have it
[11:32] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo:  what does uname -r say?
[11:32] <papa_lic> no-one knows anything about this problem?
[11:32] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: 2.6.15-15-powerpc
[11:32] <brenner> papa_lic: what's the error?
[11:32] <sando> xored: righto, i'm outof options, due to my inexperience with Linux Cisco clients\servers or Cisco gear in general. Might want to check with people that may know more about Cisco gear and Cisco client\servers
[11:32] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: ok you are not using breezy
[11:33] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: I've been using these configuration for a long time on other boxes (breezy with dapper repos) haven't experienced any problems
[11:33] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: go to locales in system>admin i think is where it is and there should be updates
[11:33] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: i didnt say everyone would have problems i said its a bad idea
[11:33] <gnomefreak> it can cause problems
[11:34] <cyblivious> ey guys, need your recommendation. what RSS reader can you recommend?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: dapper depends on things that are not avilable in breezy and vice versa
[11:34] <intelikey> papa_lic you can try   [ctrl] +[alt] +[f2]   and login console then  do   sudo rm ./.*auth*  && exit     if it exits   then  [alt] +[f7]    and try to login
[11:35] <gnomefreak> kind of like you cant remove ff1.0.7 after installing ff1.5 in breezy
[11:35] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: couldn't find appropriate package
[11:36] <GTX> Guys I keep having problems with sounds and games all to do with alsa and stuff
[11:36] <ardinary> whats ffs1?
[11:36] <GTX> Would it be worth buying a new sound card?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: if you have breezy repos in your sources.list take them out than try the system>admin locales again (after sudo apt-get update
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ffs1?
[11:37] <GTX> Guys I keep having problems with sounds and games all to do with alsa and stuff, would it be worth buying a sound card which is not built into the motherboard or..
[11:37] <brenner> GTX: have you consulted crimsun yet?
[11:37] <GTX> crimsun?
[11:37] <sovin> !ubotu tell sovin about wine
[11:37] <sovin> thank you.
[11:37] <sovin> eh
[11:37] <brenner> GTX: the #ubuntu sound guru.
[11:37] <gnomefreak> sovin: try /msg ubotu wine
[11:37] <sovin> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:37] <GTX> brenner, Dont think so is he arround?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:38] <brenner> GTX: seems that way
[11:38] <brenner> ubotu: tell GTX about sound
[11:38] <brenner> GTX: check those links out
[11:38] <gean> hi all! ubuntu just works ``temporarily'' on the machine of a person, that denied knowledge and use of linux for ever, now he thinks about the amount of the partition, where it will ``maybe'' live forever... Thanks to all  that contributed, long live for the ubuntu spirit!
[11:38] <GTX> Yeah I did ages ago :/
[11:38] <ardinary> glad you got the howto on irc so i can get to the channel :)
[11:38] <zebra> how can I install a gtk2 theme from terminal?
[11:38] <zebra> I'm getting an error when I try to install from the themes --> install theme
[11:38] <brenner> what error?
[11:39] <intelikey> gean   nice spam
[11:39] <zebra> The file format is invalid
[11:39] <selinium> HI all, I have removed the 386 kernel, I have k7. but now nautilus has stopped working. Any ideas?
[11:39] <wizardjames> hmm, so when u install ubuntu the "server" command.. what is the main parts from the normal install
[11:39] <zebra> When I direct it to the .theme file
[11:40] <sovin> I've installed wine and winesetuptk through sudo apt-get, is it normal for winesetuptk to remove the first wine install?
[11:40] <brenner> zebra: did you extract an archive?
[11:40] <zebra> brenner, yes
[11:40] <sanjay> new to this .. are u all helpful to newbees
[11:40] <brenner> zebra: don't. :)
[11:40] <bimberi> sanjay: most of us :)
[11:40] <sovin> + is winesetuptk needed at all?
[11:40] <sanjay> thanks
[11:40] <brenner> zebra: install theme>browse to the archive
[11:40] <zebra> brenner, the file is in an archive with a bunch of other theme folders
[11:40] <brenner> zebra: tries that?
[11:40] <selinium> sanjay, Much more friendly than not! read the CoC
[11:41] <brenner> *tried
[11:41] <selinium> !CoC
[11:41] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:41] <selinium> sanjay, ^^^^^ :)
[11:42] <brenner> zebra: shouldn't matter if the archive represents the single theme
[11:42] <selinium> hi gnomefreak :)
[11:42] <GTX> brenner, whats the best sound card you reccomend which is linux friendly and basiclay needs nothign configured for it to work
[11:42] <gnomefreak> hi selinium
[11:42] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: it didn't make any difference, it still doesn't generate the locale currently set for my system (by ubuntu installer)
[11:42] <selinium> gnomefreak, are you any good with nautilus?
[11:42] <zebra> brenner, the theme is in an archieve with a bunch of other theme folders, for stuff like GAIM
[11:42] <sanjay> selinium: great  COC..
[11:42] <gnomefreak> selinium: depends on what you are trying to do
[11:42] <zebra> but, ill try directing it to the zip
[11:42] <zebra> if you want...
[11:42] <sando> nautilus, is the one thing that sucks about gnome
[11:42] <intelikey> zebra what brenner seems to be telling you is that you install a theem as an archive, not extract and them install     i.e. the theem manager will do the extracting in the correct place.....
[11:43] <sando> otherwise it's perfect
[11:43] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: mine is tr_TR.UTF-8 and the closest thing it generates is the tr_CY.UTF-8 which I've never heard of before
[11:43] <selinium>  gnomefreak Mine has disappeared after removing 386 (running k7)   :)
[11:43] <brenner> GTX: no idea.  i'm just throwing you links.  ... but i *do* have integrated sound and have not had any problems
[11:43] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: what's the neat way of changing the locale system-wide, so I can test if that tr_CY works
[11:43] <GTX> :(
[11:43] <cyblivious> ey guys, need your opinion. what RSS reader can you recommend?
[11:43] <zebra> Okay
[11:43] <sovin> I've installed wine and winesetuptk through sudo apt-get, is it normal for winesetuptk to remove the first wine install?
[11:44] <zebra> the zip said invalid format too
[11:44] <selinium> cyblivious, I use firefox! :)
[11:44] <sovin> + is winesetuptk needed at all?
[11:44] <gean> sovin : i also was trying to put wine last days on hd, installed winehq (or so) as described in http://www.winehq.com/  : happended the same : other wine packages were removed ...
[11:44] <zebra> So, that didn't work
[11:44] <cyblivious> but i don't think leaving it open all the time is good
[11:44] <cyblivious> coz of it's memory leaks
[11:44] <gnomefreak> EricCartman-iboo: theres a way in cli to do it i just can remember if its sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:44] <sovin> gean: btw, did you notice that if you do it via sudo apt-get it is pulling the file from security.ubuntu... etc? and not winehq?
[11:44] <jimcooncat> I'd like to setup a support chat for a few clients over ssh -- should I go with jabber or some irc daemon?
[11:45] <cyblivious> if only akregator has a newspaper view/layout
[11:45] <intelikey> zebra i would sujest looking where you got the .zip  for a .gz  and try it.
[11:45] <selinium> cyblivious,  apt-chache search rss   in a term... :)
[11:45] <gnomefreak> selinium: have you tried installing it again? (since you got the kernel)?
[11:45] <Ma> h ici ya que des teub bande de ffonbou
[11:45] <intelikey> selinium one h in cache
[11:45] <zebra> intelikey, there isn't one
[11:46] <selinium> gnomefreak, yep, still no joy, even when i start it from term it doesn't error, it just hangs.
[11:46] <brenner> zebra: ok.  try extracting the gtk2 theme folder to ~/.themes
[11:46] <gean> sovin : http://www.winehq.com/ requires CUSTOM add of the address where to find the .deb file, problem: synaptic was not finding the repositories for winehq some days after..
[11:46] <gnomefreak> selinium: im not sure than im sorry
[11:46] <selinium> intelikey, indeed :)
[11:46] <selinium> cyblivious,  apt-cache search rss   in a term... :)   Spelling mistake!
[11:46] <zebra> brenner, here is the theme
[11:46] <selinium> gnomefreak, np, just thought i would bat it out there!
[11:46] <zebra> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28688856/
[11:46] <intelikey> zebra  then you can extract it in an empty dir and then repackage it with with tar
[11:47] <sovin> gean: I see.  I have a deb file of the version of wine I need on my desktop, to install it the cmd is dpkg -i file_name right?
[11:47] <cyblivious> damn too many!! ;P
[11:47] <Ma> pigeon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <gnomefreak> file_name.deb
[11:47] <sovin> yes
[11:47] <sovin> k
[11:47] <jimcooncat> what bot software is used for the excellent ubotu?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> god i hope this works
[11:47] <sovin_brb> ditto
[11:48] <selinium> cyblivious, THere is npthing wrong with installing a few, use and abuse them. Delete the ones you don't use. :)
[11:48] <brenner> jimcooncat: blootbot iirc
[11:48] <zebra> intelikey, that seemed to work
[11:48] <EricCartman-iboo> gnomefreak: thanks anyway
[11:48] <zebra> I unziped, and then tar.gz'd the file and it installed correctly, apparently.
[11:48] <jimcooncat> thanks brenner
[11:49] <intelikey> zebra yeah that's kinda a hack but as long as it works..
[11:49] <tristan> hello
[11:49] <gnomefreak> intelikey: shhhh dont say hack too loud :(
[11:49] <gean> sovin: yes, but then you have to take care about dependencies ... something may become broken (especially when dealing with wine) : read the install for winehq at loc. cit. to see how to add custom install of repositories in synaptic... this will e.g. install winehq, if u want it instead. (I no longer have wine on hd)
[11:49] <tristan> Is there a program to convert avi or mpeg to gif under linux?
[11:49] <sovin_brb> great. its a tar.bz2 file.
[11:49] <Ma> fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:49] <Ma> rrrrrrrrrrvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[11:49] <Ma> bbbbbbbbvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv233333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
[11:49] <gnomefreak> !ops
[11:49] <intelikey> HACK!  damnit
[11:49] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[11:50] <wizardjames> on the server install , is it possable to get a gui?
[11:50] <Ma> shut up
[11:50] <intelikey> sorry 'nomefreek   that was just the rebelious side of me showing there
[11:51] <intelikey> wizardjames sure
[11:51] <gean> sovin  : better : apt-get install wine[TAB]  and see what apt-get offers... as a dynamic extension#
[11:51] <Ma> shut up peach
[11:51] <brenner> wizardjames: install ubuntu-desktop, or kubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <jimcooncat> wizardjames: you can always add one of the *-desktop packages
[11:51] <sovin_brb> gean: i've a particular version to install already on my desktop
[11:51] <wizardjames> thanks.. i will try that now.
[11:51] <gean> sovin : ok : dpkg -i pack.deb !
[11:51] <sovin_brb> gean: could you advise me on what to do if the extension is .tar.bz2?
[11:51] <sovin_brb> i.e wine-0.9.3.tar.bz2
[11:52] <Ma> bich
[11:52] <zebra> Hrmmmm
[11:52] <sovin_brb> sovin
[11:52] <zebra> Alright, how do I install an icon set
[11:52] <intelikey> wizardjames or on a lighter note just install xserver-xorg and you favorite wm
[11:52] <gean> sovin : install unp ! (it unpacks without knowledge about tar-balls and gunzips), then unp file.tar.bz2 will do the right thing !
[11:52] <zebra> I have a bunch of icon files that I got from gnome-look
[11:53] <sovin> gean: thanks, i'll look unp up :)
[11:53] <sovin> msg ubotu unp
[11:53] <gean> sovin : u're wellcome ! also learned it last days before..
[11:54] <sobersabre> hi ubuntu-ers
[11:54] <selinium> ping Seveas
[11:54] <sobersabre> i need to understand why the hell esd is spawned on my machine.
[11:54] <zebra> How do you install metacity themes?
[11:54] <intelikey> zebra i really don't know.  i've never installed a theem or icon set either.   i don't even have x here.   only a 610mb hdd and duel boot with windows so no room for x.
[11:54] <gober> haloo
[11:54] <sobersabre> hi gober
[11:55] <selinium> Seveas, no worries. The perp has left
[11:55] <sovin> nada
[11:55] <GTX> Serv
[11:55] <nbjayme> hello i have a question regarding ogg vorbis under totem.
[11:55] <GTX> Seveas, could you help on a sound problem please
[11:55] <brenner> zebra: if it's a set, the same way.  thru theme mgr
[11:55] <gober> hi juga
[11:56] <GTX> Seveas,  I cannot play any games without currupted sound and its really annoying I dont know whats up with it, should I buy a new sound card or?
[11:56] <nbjayme> i notice the visualization is small size even if i have already set it to large and fullscreen.
[11:56] <nbjayme> is this a limitation of ogg vorbis formats?
[11:56] <brenner> zebra: same with metacity themes
[11:56] <brenner> iirc, it's gnome's WM
[11:57] <zebra> it's just an xml file
[11:57] <zebra> should I tar.gz it?
[11:57] <intelikey> might better look at it first....
[11:58] <zebra> nope, that didn't work
[11:58] <zebra> Said invalid file format
[11:58] <intelikey> it will open in a web browser right ?
[11:58] <zebra> This is really complicated
[11:58] <zebra> it opens the code when I double click it
[11:59] <robinl1> I hate being sick
[11:59] <zebra> I figured themeing would be easier
[12:00] <brenner> nbjayme: my guess is the limitation is with the player
[12:00] <Kube> I can't use the operating system, after I log-in from the welcome screen everything stops and I can only use the mouse. nothing else, files don't even load.
[12:00] <Kube> someone please help
[12:01] <zebra> intelikey, it's an xml file
[12:02] <[Blackheart] > Hello, i've installed Ubuntu onto my Dell Inspiron 6000 however the screen is black when KDM boots, can anyone tell me if my integrated graphics device is incompatible?
[12:02] <[Blackheart] > I'll get the name of it
[12:02] <nbjayme> brenner: i'll try changing it totem xine then. i hope it corrects the problem. :(
[12:02] <[Blackheart] > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 GM
[12:03] <intelikey> yeah that is web format zebra   ahhh  maybe do a   locate .xml    or  find /usr/ -name '*.xml'    and see if you can find where metacity's .xml lives zebra,
[12:03] <Arafangion> I want to install a package that conflicts with another package over a single file.
[12:04] <Arafangion> What is the ideal way to force such a conflict?
[12:04] <intelikey> remove the other package
[12:05] <Arafangion> intelikey: The packages in question are the linux kernel, and a module built via checkinstall (kqemu)
[12:05] <brenner> Kube, [Blackheart]  : have you guys tried the forum?
[12:06] <Arafangion> intelikey: So removing the other package is not an option.
[12:06] <Arafangion> intelikey: I want to know what the recommended solution is so as to not mess up the dpkg system.
[12:06] <intelikey> Arafangion aptitude or synaptic should be able to resolve that.    is it the actuall kernel or just the metapackage linux386 ?
[12:06] <Arafangion> intelikey: Should I just --force=yes it?
[12:07] <Arafangion> intelikey: The actual kernel.  In particular, it is linux-kernel-image
[12:07] <Folken> hello
[12:07] <Folken> can you upgrade from badger to dapper
[12:07] <Arafangion> intelikey: Conflicts on /lib/modules/2.6.10-386/modules.alias
[12:07] <Arafangion> Folken: Why would you?
[12:07] <intelikey> hmmm then yes   force  is the only recourse
[12:07] <wisie> damn I'm struggling..
[12:07] <Arafangion> Folken: But I assume you can - but I'd personally do the upgrade when dapper is the stable.
[12:07] <Arafangion> intelikey: Thanks.
[12:08] <Arafangion> wisie: How so?
[12:08] <Arafangion> Hmm, compiling wine _Really_ drains batteries.
[12:08] <wisie> Arafangi1n,  mysql, for some reason It doesn't want to create a db and I think i'm having access problems? :)
[12:09] <robinl1> wow
[12:09] <robinl1> Arafangion: you gave me an idea.
[12:10] <wisie> Arafangion, to be a bit more precise: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8947 im new to all of this ;)
[12:11] <Arafangion> robinl1: How so?
[12:11] <sando> Arafangion: Are you root?  Because you need to be root to set the first permissions and create the first database, aside from "mysql"
[12:11] <Arafangion> wisie: I'm a postgresql person.
[12:11] <sando> as far as i'm aware, at least
[12:11] <robinl1> Arafangion: about draining batteries - non of your business, weird stuff.
[12:11] <wisie> ahh :/
[12:11] <Arafangion> sando: You're talking to wisie
[12:11] <sando> lol, i'm confused
[12:11] <Arafangion> robinl1: Oh, you're talking about doing a full cycle?
[12:11] <wisie> lets try this again :P
[12:11] <robinl1> Arafangion: hmm no, nothing to do with any normal methods, lol
[12:12] <wisie> sando: I'm not root and i thought htat was the problem
[12:12] <flodine> anyone know of a up to date repository for e17?
[12:12] <wisie> sando, : what would be the correct command syntax?
[12:12] <Arafangion> robinl1: In general, on lithium ion batteries, you get much more recharges if you _don't_ do full cycles each time.
[12:12] <sando> mysql -u root -p
[12:12] <sando> i think
[12:12] <Arafangion> robinl1: There is still a memory effect, but it's much, much less than most other battery types.
[12:13] <sando> wisie: enter your mysql root password, not the system one
[12:13] <brenner> full cycle == constant CPU usage for the entire charge?
[12:13] <wisie> yep done, logged in
[12:13] <robinl1> Arafangion: no has nothing to do with those things.
[12:13] <sovin> question: I recieved this error - W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> -- on synaptic after making an addition to the repository for wine.  I haven't been able to google anything on it; any suggestions?
[12:13] <wisie> then do i just run the 'mysql -u root -p' or would it be  sudo mysqladmin create torrentflux
[12:13] <Arafangion> brenner: No, it means a full discharge, followed by a full recharge. Generally done three times.
[12:13] <sando> wisie: glad to help :)
[12:14] <sando> yep
[12:14] <wisie> thanks alot sando, ill give that a go
[12:14] <Arafangion> brenner: A good method of getting a bit of extra life out of a dying battery (If it doesn't kill them)
[12:14] <Protocol1> whoa I got trllian to work
[12:14] <Protocol1> trillian
[12:14] <Arafangion> Protocol1: I prefer jabber.
[12:14] <brenner> Arafangi1n: ah
[12:14] <sando> wisie: you can do either, sudo and mysqladmin is probably the easier way
[12:14] <wisie> can i just pm you for one sec? :)
[12:14] <Protocol1> its all goood
[12:14] <sando> sure
[12:14] <Arafangion> wisie: Keep it in channel.
[12:14] <robinl1> hmm
[12:15] <robinl1> arafangion, you have a battery there?
[12:15] <sando> wisie: righto
[12:15] <Protocol1> i just wanted one program to do all three at once
[12:15] <sando> wisie: you heard the man
[12:15] <wisie> ok sure
[12:15] <rubadub> could anyone answer a simple java question i have
[12:15] <Protocol1> irc, yahoo, msn
[12:15] <irv10tz> hey guys.. what antispyware or antivirus can i use in linux???
[12:15] <wisie> mysql> sudo mysqladmin create torrentflux
[12:15] <wisie> 
[12:15] <wisie> ->
[12:15] <hade> is it possible to connect to an ftp server, login with username + pass, download files and exit using an automated shell script and the 'ftp' command?
[12:15] <wisie> when i run that command thats what i get, does that mean the cb is created?
[12:15] <Arafangion> wisie: That way if sando is obviously wrong (probably not likely in this case), others can... err, complain loudly.
[12:15] <sando> wisie: no no
[12:15] <Arafangion> robinl1: Yes.
[12:15] <irv10tz> hey guys.. what antispyware or antivirus can i use in linux???
[12:15] <sando> wisie: the mysql> prompt is in mysql
[12:15] <wisie> Arafangion, good point :) thanks.
[12:15] <Protocol1> irv10tz, firestarter
[12:16] <robinl1> Arafangion: put it into some sort of elektronic thing which detects energy level
[12:16] <wisie> ahh yes
[12:16] <irv10tz> Protocoll, where can i get firestarter???
[12:16] <Arafangion> wisie: But...  Large pastes and the like are best performed in #flood, a pastebin, or privmsg
[12:16] <sando> wisie: you'll need to either create the database in the mysql prompt using "CREATE DATABASE torrentflux;" (i think that's right) or "exit"
[12:16] <Arafangion> robinl1: An ampmeter?
[12:16] <robinl1> Arafangion: think so.
[12:16] <wisie> ahh thanks sando ill give that a shot
[12:16] <wisie> thanks very much :)
[12:17] <Arafangion> robinl1: Actually you can very reliably determine the charge in a lead acid battery by measuring the electrolyte level, afaik.
[12:17] <rubadub> i wrote a class that computs the volume of a sphere in java and when i run the program i dont get any numbers just the location in the memory. Does anyone know how to correct this
[12:17] <sando> wisie: np mate.  you could also, use "sudo mysqladmin create database torrentflux" i think as a command at linux prompt
[12:17] <robinl1> hmm - but can you detect if the energy level drops?
[12:17] <robinl1> arafangion: hmm - but can you detect if the energy level drops?
[12:17] <robinl1> forgot your name :P
[12:18] <Arafangion> robinl1: In general, if a battery runs out of juice, the voltage drops.
[12:18] <nbjayme> brenner: yep. changing it to totem-xine did work. i don't know what could be the problem of gStreamer
[12:18] <hade> is it possible to connect to an ftp server, login with username + pass, download files and exit using an automated shell script and the 'ftp' command?
[12:18] <robinl1> Arafangion: good, then measure it for a minute, and tell me when you're measuring it :P
[12:18] <irv10tz> what antivirus or antispyware can i use with ubuntu 5.10???
[12:18] <sando> robinl1: and thus the lcd becomes dimmer and sound is quiter from the speakers, etc.
[12:18] <Arafangion> robinl1: Why?
[12:18] <nbjayme> is the totem gstreamer limited to lower resolution then?
[12:18] <brenner> nbjayme: it sucks.  even the wiki says totem-xine is more capable
[12:18] <robinl1> Arafangion: i wanna try something out - and don't have the needed stuffs here
[12:18] <irv10tz> what antivirus or antispyware can i use with ubuntu 5.10???
[12:19] <sovin> irv10tz: in general, antivirus isn't needed.
[12:19] <Arafangion> robinl1: I'm sure you can find graphs and charts of the internet, though probably not for the latest batteries.
[12:19] <irv10tz> how about antispyware???
[12:19] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to update registry by running gst-register?
[12:19] <sovin> irv10tz: primarily because linux isn't widespread enough to warrant coder attempts to crack them.
[12:19] <robinl1> Arafangion: i mean draining the energy of a battery while measuring it.
[12:19] <damian_> ow do i start a program on say display 0:0
[12:19] <sando> irv10tz: ClamAV is probably your best OpenSource bet.  Otherwise, go commercial Linux AV protection, realtime or scanner only, such as Panda AV or F-Prot to give examples
[12:19] <damian_> how do i start a program on say display 0:0
[12:19] <Arafangion> irv10tz: The architecture, environment, and culture of linux distros make it _very_ difficult to get infected with a virus.
[12:19] <nbjayme> brenner: thanks so much for the inputs.  kudos to the ubuntu people. I hope ubuntu will continue to be a strong desktop distro. simple yet elegant. :)
[12:20] <damian_> how do i start a program on say display 0:0. Got my nvtv working fine want to start an x server on the tv
[12:20] <sovin> or firestarter
[12:20] <Arafangion> irv10tz: Worms, however, are another story.
[12:20] <Protocol1> trllian is working good
[12:20] <Ng> damian_: DISPLAY=:0.0 someprogram
[12:20] <Protocol1> cool
[12:20] <Arafangion> irv10tz: In general, av products for linux are intended to protect OTHER computers from viruses.
[12:20] <Arafangion> robinl1: Hmm?
[12:20] <sando> irv10tz: however, as sovin said, AV and most definately spyware protection isn't really needed
[12:20] <robinl1> :o
[12:20] <damian_> thanks ng
[12:20] <irv10tz> really?
 Arafangion: i mean draining the energy of a battery while measuring it.
[12:20] <damian_> and would the tv automatically be a display b number?
[12:21] <Arafangion> robinl1: Oh, as I said, there is probably chargs on the internet.  The curves vary depending on the type and brand of battery.
[12:21] <rubadub> is there anyone who knows java that could help me out real quick, would be much appreciated?
[12:21] <irv10tz> i just want to make sure..
[12:21] <Arafangion> robinl1: Lead-acid is the most accurate, afaik.
[12:21] <damian_> and would the tv automatically be a display b number? If so what would it usually be?
[12:21] <robinl1> Arafangion: *sigh*, what i mean is, you put the battery inside the measure thing, i go drain it remotely, and you view the energy level
[12:21] <sando> irv10tz: Yep, AV Products for linux are certainely not needed unless you're running a email server or file server or maybe mysql
[12:21] <sovin> question: I'm recieving this notice from synaptic after a repository checW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[12:21] <sovin>  -- i began recieving after I changed the repository list.  I changed it back to what it was previous to the change and I'm still recieving the error; any suggestions?
[12:21] <robinl1> Arafangion: Could sound weird to you, though :p
[12:21] <intelikey> damian_ if you are talking about tty#   it's  openvc -c # program        substitute the number for #
[12:21] <sovin> ick, sorta long-sorry.
[12:22] <Arafangion> robinl1: How would you manage to do that?
[12:22] <rubadub> #java
[12:22] <irv10tz> because when i went to this certain website, a pop-up ad appeared... is my system infected???
[12:22] <robinl1> Arafangion: i'm gonna try it out :)
[12:22] <zebra> how can I add a trash icon to my desktop?
[12:22] <robinl1> Arafangion: really, if you want your lightbulb to become brighter or explode, just say so.
[12:22] <Arafangion> robinl1: I must be getting tired.
[12:22] <robinl1> :P
[12:22] <ablomen> zebra: use gconf editor, search for "trash"
[12:22] <brenner> ubotu: tell sovin about gpgerr
[12:22] <sando> irv10tz: Most likely not as almost all web based exploits are based off and directed to Windows based systems
[12:22] <brenner> sovin: something to try maybe
[12:22] <robinl1> i'm having a little fun here, heh.
[12:22] <intelikey> zebra make it on the pannel and drag it maybe ?
[12:23] <zebra> intelikey, tried that... wasn't having it
[12:23] <irv10tz> ahh...
[12:23] <sovin> brenner: thanks a bunch.
[12:23] <zebra> for some reason
[12:23] <robinl1> Arafangion: wait, are you tired?
[12:23] <ablomen> zebra: (in the search box, check all the options)
[12:23] <irv10tz> well that made me breathe easier... thanks guys!
[12:23] <sando> irv10tz: Linux based web exploits such as the ones which can "take control of your computer" don't really exist.  Infact, i've never really heard of such a thing for linux, so you're pretty safe
[12:24] <robinl1> lol maybe i should do this on another chat :P
[12:24] <robinl1> thought it would be fun to amaze a few programmers *rolls on floor laughing*
[12:24] <sando> irv10tz: pleasure
[12:25] <wisie> sando: for some weird reason, when i login to mysql then exit then run sudo mysqladmin create database torrentflux i still seem to be getting the same error.. how weird
[12:25] <robinl1> lol everybody's quiet
[12:25] <robinl1> a
[12:25] <robinl1> h
[12:25] <ben_underscore> anyone here into postgresql?
[12:25] <wizardjames> is there someway i could find a repo that has mozilla 1.5 on it and it inupdates everying automaticly?
[12:25] <nathanj> anyone know any good mediapc linux os?
[12:26] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore: I'm just getting started with postgres
[12:26] <robinl1> hey Arafangion you there? oO
[12:26] <intelikey> robinl1 what are you talking about ?
[12:26] <wizardjames> nathanj http://www.geexbox.org/en/index.html
[12:26] <Arafangion> iratsu: There are exploits that do take control of your computer, but they generally require a deliberate cracker working on the case.
[12:26] <robinl1> intelikey: nothing ;p
[12:26] <sovin> brenner: is *Release* the file or the repository I'm trying to upload?
[12:26] <nathanj> wizardjames: twa
[12:26] <robinl1> meh nevermind :p
[12:27] <sovin> or download
[12:27] <Arafangion> iratsu: What you won't get on linux is the annoyance of "I've got another virus", which you do on windows.
[12:27] <sando> wisie:  Is it "Access Denied" or something to that effect?  I suggest checking up the man pages for mysqladmin (>mysqladmin --help OR man mysqladmin) to find out how to specify the username\password for the mysql server (effectively the "mysql" database which handles the Mysql server)
[12:27] <Ge0> no french here plz ?
[12:27] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, when using psql, i'm trying to connect using a username, password and server, but it's giving me an access denied. have you cracked this one?
[12:28] <Arafangion> Ge0: What? Where did anyone say french?
[12:28] <wisie> yep access problems, will look into it.. thanks
[12:28] <Ge0> noone spike french here, need help
[12:28] <sando> nathanj: GeekBox is probably the best MediaCentre Platform for a Linux based OS.  Check the right sidebar on http://www.distrowatch.com/ for the top 5 recommended MediaCentre Linux Distros
[12:28] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore: I always have to go through the docs when making a new connection -- I never remember.
[12:28] <rubadub> is ther anyone who could answer a quick java question
[12:29] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, what are you using it for?
[12:29] <ben_underscore> rubadub, give it a go
[12:29] <brenner> sovin: * is a wildcard.  it will remove all files with the word Release in it
[12:29] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore: know that postgres users are not the same as the computer users necessarily
[12:29] <jimcooncat> unless you link it to PAM
[12:29] <rubadub> my program is spitting out the memory locations instead of numbers
[12:29] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, yeah
[12:29] <jimcooncat> I've used it for drupal
 My PS/2 moose is'nt detectred by Ubuntu, help </HELP>
[12:30] <Arafangion> robinl1: Sorry, didn't notice your privmsg
[12:30] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, ok, have you found the performance ok?
[12:30] <sovin> brenner: when i execute the command it returns nothing; normal?
[12:30] <Arafangion> robinl1: I would like to stay in channel.
[12:30] <robinl1> Arafangion: no problem :)
[12:30] <robinl1> hmm, why?
[12:30] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore: performance is fine but watch your memory to make sure you don't start swapping
[12:30] <ben_underscore> rubadub, post your code here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  so we can have a look
[12:30] <robinl1> would think i was crazy, lol, you would be the only one who saw it
[12:31] <Arafangion> robinl1: Because it's 10:30 pm and I *am* tired, not wanting to have a nonsense convo ;)
[12:31] <rubadub> alright thank
[12:31] <robinl1> well then - should i remove your tiredness?
[12:31] <brenner> sovin: yes
[12:31] <sovin> brenner: !panic, synaptic yielded even more errors on the following reload.
[12:31] <brenner> sovin: try updateing now
[12:31] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, yeah, i can imagine that. i'm planning to use it for a spatial data warehouse
[12:31] <sando> Ge0: PS2 Mice are detected AND supported by Ubuntu before Warty Warthog was around, can you give us any specific info?
[12:31] <Arafangion> robinl1: Permanently?
[12:31] <robinl1> Arafangion: not permanently.
[12:31] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, i compiled the postgis extension last night and am now trying to hook mapserver into it
[12:31] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore:  are you going to have a lot of users writing to the database?
[12:31] <robinl1> Arafangion: Just have energy back. y'know, be not tired anymore.
[12:32] <robinl1> Arafangion: and no, i won't use coffee, lol
[12:32] <brenner> sovin: hmm, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file pls
[12:32] <Arafangion> robinl1: Well, if you did that, I'd have a pretty shit day tomorrow.
[12:32] <robinl1> why? :P
[12:32] <Arafangion> robinl1: Because then I'd be tired! ;)
[12:32] <sovin> pastebin?
[12:32] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, no. there will be an extract/transform/load routine in perl once a day but the majority of users will be read only
[12:32] <robinl1> you could still sleep - and have a VERY good day tomorrow
[12:32] <Arafangion> robinl1: Besides, I have coffee anyway.
[12:32] <robinl1> coffee doesnt help, lol
[12:32] <Agent_bob> and this is what i get when my isp resets....   nick change....
[12:32] <robinl1> coffee gives an illusion to the mnd
[12:32] <robinl1> mind*
[12:32] <sovin> brenner: pastebin.com, k -- i'll msg you when i get it up
[12:33] <sando> * Sando agrees with Arafangion
[12:33] <Arafangion> robinl1: Coffee does often help, actually - but you do have to know how to use it.
[12:33] <robinl1> Arafangion: shall i do it, or not?
[12:33] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore: I was going to suggest sqlite but didn't realize you were going to use the gis extension
[12:33] <brenner> sovin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:33] <Arafangion> sando: How do you drink it?
[12:33] <sando> Arafanion: Flat white, sometimes straight black
[12:34] <sando> lurrrrve the stuff
[12:34] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, yeah i want to get the r stats environment running over postgis so i can do some cluster analyses on environmental data
[12:34] <Arafangion> sando: I always have espresso.
[12:34] <robinl1> Arafangion: hmm, want me to do it or not?
[12:34] <Arafangion> robinl1: Arafangi1n is also me.
[12:35] <Arafangion> robinl1: A different computer, though.
[12:35] <robinl1> i know
[12:35] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore: then you should be fine, I imagine you have plenty of ram if you're trying something like that
[12:35] <sovin> brenner: how does one copy the 'entire' list?
[12:35] <sando> Arafangion: lol, i don't mind expresso, it tastes good, just instant, or plunged is best if your in a hurry.  Expresso takes to long if you want to leave quick and the machine isn;t on
[12:35] <ben_underscore> jimcooncat, depends how much i can scounge up!
[12:35] <Arafangion> sando: What machine?
[12:35] <sovin> brenner: i did a less /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:35] <ben_underscore> that should be scrounge
[12:35] <rubadub> alright ben just posted it
[12:35] <Arafangion> sando: I use a moka pot!
[12:35] <brenner> sovin: use an editor
[12:35] <robinl1> Arafangion: well, decide, want me to do it or not?
[12:35] <rubadub> under rubadub
[12:35] <Arafangion> robinl1: The joke's getting dry.
[12:35] <brenner> sovin: or 'cat'
[12:35] <sando> Arafangion: duh?!?  The expresso machine!  Mr. moka pot :p
[12:35] <robinl1> it's no joke, lol
[12:36] <robinl1> shall i show it to ya?
[12:36] <robinl1>  just say yes >.<
[12:36] <Arafangion> Agent_bob: Congrats.  Personally, the instant stuff is not worth drinking, anyway.
[12:36] <bigfoot1> in nautilus, i put my mouse over an mp3 file. my mouse is not over it, the nautilus folder is closed, yet i still hear the audio. how do i stop?
[12:36] <sovin> brenner: I'm copying and pasting to a text editor; not sure what cat is (faster?)
[12:36] <jimcooncat> ben_underscore: if you need more speed you could have postgres write static data to disk and have your analysis read from that
[12:36] <brenner> sovin: it just spits out the contents to stdout
[12:36] <dooglus> robinl1: which IRC client do you use?
[12:37] <robinl1> X-Chat
[12:37] <robinl1> dooglus: X-Chat
[12:37] <dooglus> robinl1: when you type Ara<TAB>, doesn't it pick the most recently active nick first?
[12:37] <sando> bigfoot1: You aren't telling me Ubuntu is being naughtier than Windows 2000's inline media player on the left sidebar in Explorer?  no way....lol  Can't say why that'd be though
[12:37] <robinl1> dooglus: xchat-gnome, to be precise.
[12:37] <robinl1> dooglus: which doesnt support that.
[12:37] <Arafangion> Yango: I just exclude instant coffee from the category altogether.
[12:38] <Arafangion> Yango: When I offer guests tea or coffee - instant is not an option.
[12:38] <robinl1> yo, Arafangion, just say yes or no, and you are rid of me :P
[12:38] <dooglus> robinl1: oh, right.  I had a quick look at xchat-gnome when it appeared in dapper, but didn't like it much.
[12:38] <sando> Yango: Instant is crap....but still, some coffee is better than no coffee
[12:38] <bigfoot1> sando: i went to "system monitor" and killed a process called mpg123. that did it. but i wish ubuntu would stop pranking me. 8-) 8-)
[12:38] <Arafangion> sando: Only if you're addicted to the caffiene.
[12:38] <sando> bigfoot1: lol
[12:38] <sovin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8950
[12:38] <robinl1> dooglus: well it's cool, but they have to upgrade it - can't set settings, only via manual editing
[12:38] <sando> arafangion: so what if i am :p aren't you?
[12:38] <robinl1> well, Arafangion, i'll just do it, to show you that it's not a joke.
[12:39] <sovin> brenner: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8950
[12:39] <robinl1> there it goes.
[12:39] <Arafangion> sando: I'm addicted to the flavour.
[12:39] <brenner> sovin: looking
[12:39] <Arafangion> sando: I can giveup coffee, and I'll barely even get a headache.
[12:39] <robinl1> well, Arafangion, i did it, lol
[12:39] <sando> arafangion: yeah, same.  the 'kick' is a mere sideffect
[12:39] <robinl1> Now enjoy.
[12:39] <Agent_bob> !offtopic
[12:39] <ubotu> I guess offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:39] <robinl1> heh :P
[12:40] <Arafangion> Agent_bob: This is no mere editor war, but I should get some sleep never-the-less.
[12:40] <brenner> sovin: open up the sources.list file: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list
[12:40] <brenner> *sources.list
[12:40] <robinl1> Arafangion: well, are you still tired?
[12:40] <Arafangion> Agent_bob: Rather than thinking about coffee - that can't be healthy ;)
[12:40] <robinl1> i think he's got me on ignore *sigh&
[12:40] <Arafangion> robinl1: Yes.
[12:40] <robinl1> oh, ok
[12:40] <zebra> veritas@uci:~$ gksudo gdmsetup
[12:40] <zebra> (gdmsetup:4905)8|8X7: Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()
[12:40] <sando> Agent_bob: lol, yes, we should...if you live in America...go Australia!!!! woooooo!  9:40pm here!
[12:40] <zebra> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x084a94c0 ***
[12:40] <zebra> Can someone help me with that
[12:40] <brenner> sovin: and replace the entire contents with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:40] <sovin> brenner: k
[12:40] <robinl1> well, at least you are hyperactive now, lol
[12:41] <robinl1> i'll take it back
[12:41] <zebra> the window loads for a tiny bit then fails
[12:41] <Agent_bob> sando ?
[12:41] <Arafangion> zebra: Try just sudo.
[12:41] <Arafangion> zebra: In a terminal.
[12:41] <robinl1> done
[12:41] <robinl1> bye
[12:41] <zebra> veritas@uci:~$ sudo gdmsetup
[12:41] <zebra> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x084992a8 ***
[12:41] <zebra> Aborted
[12:41] <zebra> veritas@uci:~$
[12:41] <ben_underscore> rubadub, shouldn't it be System.out.println(diameter1.getdiameter()) ??
[12:41] <sando> Agent_bob: Agent_bob?
[12:42] <ben_underscore> rubadub, also i don't have java installed on this machine so i cannot test it for you...sorry about that
[12:42] <rubadub> all try it out im really new to this
[12:42] <jimcooncat> anyone running jabberd could give me an overview what's involved?
 Agent_bob: lol, yes, we should...if you live in America...go Australia!!!! woooooo! 9:40pm here!
[12:42] <brenner> sando: not everywhere :P 10:40 here.
[12:42] <sovin> brenner: i pasted the contents into the _blank_ *list (/etc/apt/sources) file
[12:42] <sovin> brenner: it is failing to save however.
[12:43] <Agent_bob> why is that addressed to me sando
[12:43] <Arafangion> zebra: I'm too tired to help you I'm sorry, but it might help if you do: sudo apt-get install strace && sudo strace gdmsetup and paste the output to a website.
[12:43] <ydo> I'm trying to upgrade breezy to dapper, %s/breezy/dapper/ in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, should I do in some other way? I get Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:43] <Arafangion> zebra: Probably only the last two pages.
[12:43] <brenner> sovin: i made a mistake.  it should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:43] <robinl1> was my bro here?
[12:43] <brenner> sovin: and you need to use sudo to get permission to write
[12:43] <ydo> md5sum sounds like someone cracked a server or so?
[12:43] <sando> Agent_bob: i thought it was somewhat convienient...anyway, you're an Australian as well? Goodo
[12:43] <sovin> brenner: ah, i see.
[12:43] <rubadub> yea that was the problem thanks for taking the time to help me
[12:44] <wizardjames> is there a guide on setting up apache and everything ..everytime i try it fails
[12:44] <sando> Agent_bob: or is that not the way you do the orange text thing (i'm relatively new to IRC)
[12:44] <sando> wizardjames: there are HEAPS of guides on howto setup Apache 1 and Apache2
[12:44] <peej_> wizardjames: thought of changing your nick?
[12:44] <Agent_bob> irc clients henerally highlight your own nick
[12:44] <sando> wizardjames: just Google it!
[12:44] <Agent_bob> sando
[12:45] <wizardjames> peej_ ?
[12:45] <Arafangion> sando: Most clients highlight lines that contain their nick. Do'h Agent_bob!
[12:45] <Arafangion> Agent_bob: You beat me :)
[12:45] <sovin> brenner: and now a sudo apt-get update yes?
[12:45] <sando> arafangion: ah ok!
[12:45] <brenner> sovin: yes, or reload in synaptic
[12:45] <Agent_bob> one exception is bx  if your nick had _ in it there is no highlighting
[12:46] <sovin> brenner: synaptic's getting on my bad side. heh, brb with results
[12:47] <sovin> brenner: viola! everything seems fine now.
[12:47] <brenner> sovin: nice
[12:47] <peej_> wizardjames: It takes wheelbarrow-required sized 'nads to label yourself wizard and then ask for help on ubuntu about installing apache.
[12:47] <intelikey> this feels better...
[12:47] <sovin> brenner: so to summarize; when I changed my repositories I added false/nonexistant sources to my source.list and synaptic/apt-get couldn't authenticate them, thus giving me errors.
[12:48] <wizardjames> peej_ ..hmm, thanks for your 2 cents, but i use this nickname for the last 4 years. and its not changin
[12:48] <tristan> anyone knows how to convert a .avi or .mpg file to an animated gif?
[12:48] <sovin> brenner: and the fix is to ... update the source.list?
[12:48] <peej_> wizardjames: sure, that's freedom. I just expect you'll get the piss taken out of you.
[12:48] <brenner> sovin: yes, you borked it up somehow.  i gave you the "official" list.
[12:48] <ydo> my APT seems a bit fu now, debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[12:49] <Ng> tristan: ffmpeg or mencoder might be able to do that
[12:49] <intelikey> tristan vlc might be able to handle that     key word might.
[12:49] <tristan> ok, i'll take a look at that
[12:49] <wizardjames> i know alot of things, i just asked if there was a guide that maybe someone used. casue the repos are so outdated.. it hurts, so maybe.. point me the way of a good repoo
[12:50] <elkbuntu> wizardjames, how are the repos outdated?
[12:50] <intelikey> me tooo ?
[12:50] <mesaboogie1> they're hard to read
[12:50] <wizardjames> elkbuntu i always get apache2 phpmyadmin mysql , php5 .. and it seams like everytime go get something..its like..3-4 versions behind
[12:51] <intelikey> why are you trying to 'read' them ?
[12:51] <Yango> wizardjames, behind what?
[12:51] <wizardjames> the lastest version
[12:51] <mumbles> lo all
[12:51] <elkbuntu> wizardjames, ever think that was for your own good?
[12:51] <Ng> wizardjames: ubuntu don't feed new versions into the repositories of a release
[12:51] <Ng> just security/critical bug fixes
[12:51] <peej_> wizardjames: so learn to install from source. Gentoo may be what you want. Ubuntu is a packaged distro, to take the headache away from you.
[12:52] <tristan> Why is my vlc menu corrupted. In file I only have the quit button but no open etc....
[12:52] <wizardjames> i was looking at gentoo..
[12:52] <Yango> wizardjames, there is no need to have always the latest versions... unless you explicitly need some feature not available before...
[12:53] <jhhdk> hello all
[12:53] <cavediver> Hi. After installing Dapper my sb live doesn't work. Is this a known issue ?
[12:53] <peej_> wizardjames : the only thing ubuntu apache will really worry about is security, and getting the nearly-latest out every 6 months. If that is not enough for you, install from source onto ubuntu. Or use gentoo.
[12:53] <brenner> what language/s are the gnome games written in?
[12:54] <Ng> probably C mostly
[12:54] <sando> wizardjames: And anyway, the install of apache2 on ANY linux distro, source or package, really is quite simple (Source - "./configure; make; make install" BINARY: apt-get apache2 :: emerge apache2 :: yum apache2 :: swup apache2)
[12:54] <intelikey> c++ c perl .... you name it..
[12:54] <wizardjames> apache is easy..
[12:54] <Yango> sando, swup?
[12:54] <wizardjames> its geting php and mysql to work all in 1 with apache
[12:55] <brenner> Ng, intelikey : using gtk as the gui?
[12:55] <peej_> wizardjames : argh. your name really makes me wince!
[12:55] <Ng> wizardjames: the apache, php and mysql packages in breezy work fine for me
[12:55] <sando> yango: Software Update (it's on some distro...possibly SLAX or slackware...can't remember)
[12:55] <Ng> brenner: yep
[12:55] <squid0> hi
[12:55] <intelikey> sando don't forget urpmi apache
[12:55] <brenner> i'd like to try writing some games, but don't know much about interfaces
[12:55] <squid0> when will kde 3.5 be available via ubuntu repos?
[12:55] <sando> intelikey: oh yeah, forgot that lol
[12:55] <Yango> intelikey, and let us not forget yast
[12:56] <Ng> !tell squid0 about kde3.5
[12:56] <intelikey> hehhe actually one of my favorites,  er  urpmi is.
[12:56] <wizardjames> aw well..i will just get gentoo... peej_ learn to keep your 2cents to your self..it really pisses some people off
[12:56] <corvus_> hello there!
[12:56] <sando> brenner: you may want to try the LinuxQuestion.Org programming forum.  They'll tell you heaps about the Linux IDEs (KDevelop, Eclipse, etc.)
[12:57] <Arafangion> How do I use an external monitor on my laptop?
[12:57] <Arafangion> (How do I switch the display?)
[12:57] <squid0> Ng: thanks
[12:57] <Exxcaliber> Arafangion, Doesn't FN+ something work?
[12:57] <jimcooncat> Arafangion:  On my gf's dell laptop there's a keyboard combination to press
[12:57] <squid0> !tell squid0 about kde3.5.1
[12:58] <sando> Arafangion: You'll be looking into X Dualview stuff.  It's somewhat hardware dependant, i think as well)
[12:58] <intelikey> araf mine has a button ....   :)
[12:58] <Arafangion> Exxcaliber: It doesn't :(
[12:58] <corvus_> hoi henk
[12:58] <elkbuntu> !tell peej_ about conduct
[12:58] <Arafangion> Exxcaliber: I've got the key on the keyboard, but it doesn't do anything.
[12:58] <Yango> Arafangion, nothing at all?
[12:59] <Arafangion> Yango: It'd likely regester a scancode...
[12:59] <Exxcaliber> Arafangion, what model is your laptop?
[12:59] <henk> hoi corvus_
[12:59] <Arafangion> Exxcaliber: Asus v6v.
[12:59] <Exxcaliber> Arafangion, there are some kernel modules out there which will make certain laptops cooperate :)
[12:59] <Yango> Arafangion, weird, the problems i've had with displays make the external monitor to display crap, not to display nothing at all
[01:00] <corvus_> ik ben voor de eerste x gebruik aan het maken van xchat IRC
[01:00] <Arafangion> Yango: Well, I get *no change*
[01:00] <Exxcaliber> Arafangi1n, okay.. i have heard of a kernel module for dell computers which will enable the FN+ buttons.. maybe theres something like that for asus?
[01:00] <Arafangion> It's as if the scancode does not do anything.
[01:00] <Arafangion> Exxcaliber: Some of the FN keys work, others apparently don't.
[01:00] <Yango> Arafangion, well, in any case, the troubles I've had I have solved by installing proper video/keyboard drivers. Use lspci and friends to find out what you need
[01:00] <ydo> come on, please answer me...
[01:01] <jhhdk> when trying to install eclipse-jdt with synaptic i get Depends: eclipse-jdt-common but is not going to be installed, tried to change my sources.list to no avail. Any suggestions?
[01:01] <Arafangion> Yango: I'm using ATI cards.
[01:01] <Arafangion> Yango: Actually, it's an ATI graphics card.
[01:01] <gao_xing> hi
[01:01] <intelikey> oooh youch
[01:01] <corvus_> can anyone tell me (a newbie), how to get better 3D-acceleration? I tried penguin-racer but it doesn't work smooth...way too slow
[01:01] <peej_> elkbuntu: tsk. He was far too sensitive. I gave him good, honest advice that would help him.
[01:02] <brenner> corvus_: what card?
[01:02] <sando> Arafangion: Just found this for Gentoo, might help for ubuntu though - http://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[01:02] <corvus_> vgacard on-board (shared) Via/S3G Unichrome Pro IGP
[01:03] <Arafangion> THanks sando
[01:03] <corvus_> (AMD Sempron64 2800+
[01:03] <sando> Arafangion: np :)
[01:03] <elkbuntu> peej_ it was hardly a respectful way of doing it. he indicated himself that the wizard reference in his name was nothing to do with this. you havent gone off at me for playing pun on the name ubuntu, when i certainly dont know all about it
[01:04] <Arafangion> sando: Hmm, looks like I can't use that.
[01:04] <Arafangion> Hmm, then again, I might.
[01:04] <ydo> can I backup and restore my package selection database, it feels broken.. :(
[01:04] <sando> corvus_: You're current video card probably doesn't support 3D acceleration, or if it does, it's basic.  Normally onboard video cards aren't very good when i comes to 3D games and such
[01:05] <intelikey> ydo why are you handeling it to see how it feels ?
[01:05] <corvus_> hmmmm...on windows it works very well...
[01:05] <intelikey> but yes you can use tar to back it up ydo
[01:06] <graveson> anyone out there can recommed good backup distribution for ubuntu breezy
[01:06] <corvus_> maybe i will put in my old Nvidia RIVA TNTPro pci-card...(32MB)
[01:06] <ydo> intelikey: as I said above I tried to upgrade to dapper, but everything got fucked up
[01:06] <sando> Arafangion: it might be different with a laptop, but esentially, to X.Org, you're still a computer with standard /dev inputs and outputs ,cept for maybe power management
[01:06] <brenner> sando: thanks, i know about IDEs, but what i meant was i've only used OpenGL to render "interfaces".  i'm wondering what they use.
[01:06] <peej_> elkbuntu: your point is taken. I will try to be less acerbic with nicks that make me wince in future.
[01:06] <ydo> intelikey: what files do I need to tar?
[01:06] <elkbuntu> peej_, thankyou
[01:07] <Arafangion> sando: And in the sense that it's far more dynamic.
[01:07] <corvus_> i have to say that on my other pc with the NVidia card...it also didn't work
[01:07] <asdffasf> too many video packets error in mplayer - picture is not good
[01:08] <asdffasf> what to do?
[01:08] <corvus_> it was an oldie...500mhz Piii
[01:08] <ydo> do I really need to pay somebody to atleast talk to me?
[01:08] <ydo> *sigh*
[01:08] <sando> corvus_: If it works well in Windows, then it's most likely driver issues in ubuntu \ linux kernel that aren't there or aren't working.  You could recompile the Kernel however, that may be more effort than it's worth.  Probablky you're best bet is a lspci and a modprobe statement.  What the options and keywords for those commands should be,i can't say
[01:08] <brenner> corvus_: what make is that?
[01:08] <intelikey> ydo tar -cjvf back_apt.tar.bz2 /etc/apt /var/cache/apt  /var/lib/apt
[01:09] <ydo> intelikey: ok, and then? how do I repair my apt?
[01:09] <corvus_> or i will have 2 buy a new VGA-card wich is supported...
[01:09] <sando> brenner: I couldn't tell you actually, not really much of a coder myself, really
[01:09] <Arafangion> sando: Wow, that was *simple*
[01:09] <graveson> anyone out there can recommed good backup distribution for ubuntu breezy
[01:09] <Arafangion> sando: sudo aticonfig --dtop=clone
[01:10] <sando> arafangion: yep, i'd say they are a fair bit more dynamic, especially in the hotswappability arena....lol
[01:10] <intelikey> fix your /etc/apt/sources.list   use  /msg ubotu repos    for info on that.    then sudo apt-get update
[01:10] <corvus_> i really dont care about games and such...but i just tried it out and was a little dissapointed...its a new pc...
[01:10] <jimcooncat> graveson: what's a backup distro?
[01:10] <jhhdk> synaptic: "Depends: xyz but is not going to be installed." what does it mean, how can i fix?
[01:10] <intelikey> ydo ^
[01:10] <ydo> intelikey: eh.. you want me to tar gigs of .debs?
[01:10] <jimcooncat> something to use instead of breezy?
[01:10] <graveson> jimcooncat : good backup software
[01:10] <peej_> Arafangion: atitvout for tv out btw (if supported)
[01:10] <ydo> intelikey: please READ before telling me.
[01:10] <sando> arafangion: yep, that seems quite simple indeed....did you get that from the website?
[01:10] <intelikey> there should'nt be debs in there...    your cache isn't clean cause it failed the install....
[01:11] <jimcooncat> graveson: I use unison. But are you backing up windows boxes too?
[01:11] <asdffasf> bad pictue in mplayer, what to do?
[01:11] <intelikey> ydo tar -cjvf back_apt.tar.bz2 /etc/apt/*.bin /var/cache/apt  /var/lib/apt
[01:11] <Kube> ubotu repos
[01:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:11] <graveson> yes , a windows pc as well
[01:11] <intelikey> ydo that will skip the debs
[01:11] <jimcooncat> graveson: check out bakula
[01:11] <Arafangion> sando: Just about.
[01:11] <peej_> asdffasf : specs of your machine? what kind of bad output?
[01:12] <Arafangion> sando: Not explicitly.
[01:12] <sando> corvus_:yep, i'd say drivers.  especially if it's a newer card...like, don't expect tovarlds to get the ATi x1900 series working in the kernel already, the x800 barely works
[01:12] <ydo> intelikey: the debs are in /var/cache/apt/archives....
[01:12] <Kube> ubotu tell Kube about repos
[01:12] <intelikey> ydo tar -cjvf back_apt.tar.bz2 /etc/apt/*.bin /var/cache/apt  /var/lib/apt
[01:12] <asdffasf> too many video packets error, amd athlon barton
[01:12] <graveson> jimcooncat: thnx
[01:12] <intelikey> oh hehhhe yeah  i did mess that up
[01:12] <sando> arafangion: glad i could help, if i did :)
[01:12] <corvus_> hmmm okay...
[01:12] <intelikey> ydo tar -cjvf back_apt.tar.bz2 /etc/apt/ /var/cache/apt/*.bin  /var/lib/apt
[01:12] <intelikey> there ydo
[01:12] <peej_> asdffasf : is your monitor really ancient?
[01:12] <intelikey> good call
[01:13] <asdffasf> no
[01:13] <corvus_> well i'll be saving money for a new vga-card wich is supported
[01:13] <peej_> asdffasf : does mplayer work for other porn^H^H^H^Hvideo files?
[01:13] <sando> corvus_: in the mean time, check LinuxQuestions.Org to see if anyone's had anyluck with your graphics card\chipset
[01:14] <jhhdk> !easysource
[01:14] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:14] <ydo> intelikey: ok now, how about this error: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:14] <asdffasf> yes
[01:14] <peej_> asdffasf : probably a codec problem then. Or drm.
[01:14] <ydo> intelikey: which I get every time I try to do apt-get -f install, on the xserver-common package
[01:15] <Sythen> Hello
[01:15] <Arafangion> Hmm, xinerama is wierd.
[01:15] <tafsen> How do I upload a entire folder with NcFTP?
[01:15] <ydo> intelikey: actually APT tried to do it on the xserver-common package, I'm just trying to repair my broken dapper upgrade
[01:15] <intelikey> ydo either close the app that is using it   or  if it's a false report remove the lock file.
[01:15] <asdffasf> any other dvd player
[01:15] <corvus_> @ Sando: thnx! I am not frustrated or such but wanted to find out if there was a easy sollution wich i overlooked...I'll check linuxQuestion.org in the mean time
[01:16] <ydo> intelikey: there is no app using it, lsof tells me that, fuser tells me same
[01:16] <sando> well, my ubuntu server disc is downloaded!  seeding in progress!
[01:16] <ydo> intelikey: which is the lock-file?
[01:16] <sando> arafangion: yeah, that'd be the next thing to play with.....xinerama
[01:16] <peej_> asdffasf : what kind of garbled output are you getting?
[01:16] <sando> corvus_: anytime mate :)
[01:16] <hade> how do i download an entire directory and subdirectories etc using the ftp command?
[01:17] <peej_> asdffasf : snow? hiccups?
[01:17] <intelikey> ydo ls -Ra /var/lock   should find it.   if not look in /var/cache
[01:17] <asdffasf> like puzzlez
[01:17] <peej_> hade: mget * for multiple gets
[01:17] <hade> ok thanks
[01:18] <sando> gah!!! not Tiscali!!!
[01:18] <asdffasf> problem solved, thank you.
[01:18] <ydo> intelikey: no
[01:18] <peej_> hade: see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/346 if you are interested in automating ftp and mild programming.
[01:18] <peej_> asdffasf : what was it, do you reckon?
[01:18] <intelikey> ydo no debconf anywhere in lock hmmmm ?
[01:19] <asdffasf> right click, open disk!
[01:19] <Arafangion> sando: Now, all that needs to be done is to allow the changes to be realised without restarting xorg - possible?
[01:20] <asdffasf> :)
[01:20] <sando> arafangion: hmmm, i dunno, maybe there's an option for startup options in X.Org's config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)  Otherwise, drop it in one of the startup runlevels or rc.sysinit or something
[01:21] <braros_> ciao
[01:21] <purpleidea> i'm looking for anyone who could give me some advice on how to get an smp-kernel working with a new intel duo core 2.0ghz, on an inspiron 9400. have tried the basics.
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> for playing dvd you need w32codecs that's right
[01:21] <C-O-L-T> ?
[01:21] <brenner> no
[01:22] <brenner> ubotu: tell C-O-L-T about dvd
[01:22] <ydo> intelikey: who should I talk to now?
[01:22] <corvus_> ogle works very fine with dvd's
[01:22] <Kube> Help please, ubuntu does not load the desktop, or um I think that Gnome doesn't boot. I can only see the Login Screen after my box is rebooted, and after I log in, I can only see and move the mouse, Nothing else. Any Ideas? Please Help!!
[01:22] <brenner> corvus_: gtk1 though isn't it?
[01:22] <bigfoot1> i have flash, but how come www.throughthefiremovie.com says i need to get flash 8?
[01:23] <corvus_> only not al dvd's will run...in my intire dvd collection there is 1 that will not play
[01:23] <corvus_> yups
[01:23] <intelikey> ydo i was looking for where that lock file might be,   just ask if anyone knows where the debconf lockfile might be hiding.
[01:23] <C-O-L-T> where to get w32codecs
[01:23] <yanimax> can someone teach me how to make my first java program in ubuntu ?
[01:23] <peej_> Kube: live cd or installed system?
[01:23] <brenner> corvus_: and resizeing the screen doesn't resize the video .. at least for me
[01:23] <Kube> peej_, same with both.
[01:23] <intelikey> anyone knows where the debconf lockfile might be hiding.
[01:23] <brenner> ubotu: tell C-O-L-T about restricted
[01:24] <Ogre----> Hi!
[01:24] <purpleidea> yanimax: i would suggest googleing for java tutorials. if you really can't find any i'll google one for you.
[01:24] <peej_> Kube: suddenly happened on your system, or is this a new install?
[01:24] <Fub> how can I enable Chinese characters on a cdrom drive?
[01:24] <Ogre----> do you know menga low?
[01:24] <Kube> peej_ this is a new installed, tried it with 3 different cds ..
[01:24] <Ogre----> law?
[01:24] <corvus_> hmmm...
[01:24] <ydo> intelikey: nobodys listening...
[01:25] <Kube> peej_ on my older system it was working fine. and By the way, after I rebooted, my Mercury LCD TFT 17" Screen showed "No Support"
[01:25] <Ogre----> are there anyone italian here?
[01:25] <purpleidea> i'm looking for anyone who could give me some advice on how to get an smp-kernel working with a new intel duo core 2.0ghz, on an inspiron 9400. have tried the basics.
[01:25] <Kube> that can be removed, but I just thought it's good to point it out
[01:25] <ydo> intelikey: as I said above I tried to upgrade to dapper, but everything got fucked up, /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked, lsof and fuser tells me its not, google says its a flock(), but where is the process?
[01:25] <peej_> Kube: ok, have you gone through the f2, f3 f4 etc screens during the boot ? Just before you press the first enter?
[01:25] <C-O-L-T> brenner: thanks for everything
[01:25] <ydo> intelikey: oops that was meant for everybody
[01:25] <Kube> peej_ even though with the 64bit version it didn't show.
[01:25] <ydo> As I said above I tried to upgrade to dapper, but everything got fucked up, /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked, lsof and fuser tells me its not, google says its a flock(), but where is the process?
[01:25] <brenner> C-O-L-T: sure
[01:26] <instabin> apt-get wont let me install wine and winestuptk at the stame time
[01:26] <peej_> Kube: go through the tips, disable likely options (acpi and all that) and it is less likely to hiccup.
[01:26] <peej_> instabin : mebbe they're mutually exclusive?
[01:26] <brenner> instabin: you can't.  if you think about it, it's smart.  it avoids borking your system
[01:26] <instabin> ?
[01:27] <corvus_> hmmm...brenner...i just found out that i have the same problem
[01:27] <thechitowncubs> XGL is amazing
[01:27] <instabin> how would that bork your system
[01:27] <peej_> instabin: borking is kewlspeak for breaking. You too can learn to speek leet!
[01:27] <corvus_> in my older Piii pc it was flawless...no on my new pc it **##**
[01:28] <sando> brenner: i thought it might have been GTK
[01:28] <Kube> peej_, I didn't get it..
[01:28] <instabin> Im trying to get dvdshirnk install but i cant get wine working
[01:28] <peej_> Kube: get what?
[01:28] <Kube> where can I disable those options ? ;/
[01:28] <xored> someone got a good iptables howto ?
[01:28] <corvus_> i've installed GTK+ (2etc
[01:28] <brenner> instabin: you're talking about trying to do 2 apt-get installs at the same time right?
[01:28] <instabin> yes
[01:29] <instabin> i also trye it sepreate
[01:29] <klamke> join #linux-ha
[01:29] <bintut> anyone here running ubuntu-5.10 on amd64?
[01:29] <sando> xored: check the Linux Documentation project website (http://www.tldp.org/) they're bound to have one (in fact I know that they do) and heaps of other FAWs and howtos
[01:29] <instabin> but everytime i install one it wants to remove the other
[01:29] <peej_> Kube: when it boots, just before it  asks you to press enter to boot into ubuntu. If you read the screen, it says you can get more info about boot options etc by hitting the f2, f3 key etc.
[01:29] <corvus_> yes i am running on ubuntu 5.10AMD64
[01:29] <ydo> As I said above I tried to upgrade to dapper, but everything got fucked up, /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked, lsof and fuser tells me its not, google says its a flock(), but where is the process? Please answer in /msg
[01:29] <sando> *FAQs
[01:30] <xored> sando: what could be wrong on this iptable rule : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1878 . I still cannot reach the 901 from the inner 192....25 ip
[01:30] <Kube> ok thanks
[01:30] <brosioz> i've xmodmap installed
[01:30] <peej_> xored: 901?
[01:30] <brosioz> but i don't have nothing
[01:30] <instabin> any ideas on the dvd shrink / wime
[01:31] <brosioz> in /usr/share/xmodmap
[01:31] <brosioz> anyone could help ?
[01:31] <xored> peej_: port 901
[01:31] <bigfoot1> i have flash, but how come www.throughthefiremovie.com says i need to get flash 8?
[01:31] <corvus_> Bintut? I am running on Ubuntu 5.10 AMD64
[01:31] <sando> xored: Also, i'm attempting some iptables stuff soon to replace my smoothwall router, so yeah, i can help a bit as well
[01:31] <sando> xored: i'll check that paste
[01:31] <bintut> anyone here running ubuntu-5.10 on amd64? can anyone here give me the dependency packages of kernel-package?  my ubuntu-5.10 box is not connected to the internet and i want to download them here using windows..
[01:31] <xored> sando: iam running a linux box as a router. On this router are some other deamons running which i want to cover from the internet and only let be accessable from the inner LAN to specific IPS
[01:31] <bintut> corvus_: can you help me?
[01:32] <brenner> bigfoot1: what version is your current flash?
[01:32] <corvus_> Iwith waht?
[01:32] <sovin> question: how can I execute an .exe file in terminal?
[01:32] <corvus_> with what
[01:32] <purpleidea> sovin: use wine
[01:32] <brenner> sovin: what is it?
[01:32] <sovin> purpleidea: I have it installed, wine that is
[01:33] <purpleidea> sovin: type wine file.exe
[01:33] <sovin> brenner: I'm trying to install SAK_SETUP0830.exe, a game client.. oh
[01:33] <sovin> purpleidea: thank you.
[01:33] <purpleidea> sovin: welcome
[01:33] <bigfoot1> brenner: how do i know what's my flash version?
[01:33] <brenner> bigfoot1: how'd you install it? :-/
[01:33] <intelikey> ydo if the lock file is not in /var i have no clue.   maybe a scan of the whole dir   ls -AR /var | grep -ie debconf     ?
[01:33] <peej_> xored: other services run ok (other ports? ) ? checked tcp wrappers? ping ok?
[01:33] <corvus_> @Bintut what is you problem?
[01:34] <bintut> corvus_: can you give me the dependency packages of the kernel-package?  my ubuntu-5.10 box is not connected to the internet and i want to download them here using windows..
[01:34] <sando> xored: hang on, i'll phone a friend on MSN, i'm not great at iptables syntax...i'm about as good as you are...however,is this service TCP or UDP or something else?  because i think you'll need to be explict in the allowed protocols, unlesss you want to do a "allow all protocols" type rule, if one exists
[01:34] <peej_> xored : iptables -L full list ok?
[01:34] <EloraKun> I'm afraid I've done something quite wrong, and would like to know if there's anyway to revert it. In ubuntu, I run the command 'grub-install /dev/hda1' by mistake, and now my /dev/hda1 partition, which is XP's NTFS filesystem is not bootable from my old grub loader, issuing a 'unknown file system 0x07' -or something very similar-. Is there some way to return my entry to it's old status?
[01:34] <bintut> corvus_: i'll download them one by one through a web browser on this windows box.
[01:35] <peej_> xored, sando: O'reilly's nutshell iptables pocket reference guide is my friend on these things. Don't have it here on me today though.
[01:35] <purpleidea> elorakun: paste your /etc/fstab on the pastebin
[01:35] <bigfoot1> brenner: i don't remember
[01:35] <xored> peej_: ok
[01:36] <bintut> corvus_: i'm new to ubuntu and to the debian system.  but i know that the make-kpkg needs the kernel-package which i don't have here. i want to build the latest kernel on my ubuntu-5.10 system
[01:36] <peej_> EloraKun: knoppix and testdisk *may* help here. boot from knoppix cd, run testdisk, see what it things. Other rescue tools are worth a go too.
[01:36] <sovin> haha, that was my problem all along
[01:36] <sovin> silly me ><
[01:37] <sando> xored: nah, no peej_ as you are talking to him, would be your best bet
[01:37] <corvus_> cant you do a netinstall?
[01:37] <bintut> corvus_: i'm not connected to the internet..  isn't it the result of "apt-cache show kernel-package"?
[01:37] <bigfoot1> guys, how do i know what version my flash is?
[01:37] <EloraKun> peej_: I'll give it a try...
[01:37] <brenner> bigfoot1: about:plugins
[01:37] <xored> peej_: http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste
[01:37] <brenner> in the url bar
[01:38] <EloraKun> purpleidea: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8953
[01:38] <instabin> some one help with a wine error http://pastebin.com/564267
[01:38] <nathanj> sando: geexbox is only 6MB?!?!?!
[01:38] <seicherlbob> hi there! is there an easy way to keep a local folder syncronized to a samba-share (on my laptop to sync my home on the fileserver)?
[01:38] <xored> peej_: before i got a ACCEPT to all ( input, foward, output)
[01:38] <Sythen> Hey, can someone help me with configuring X?
[01:38] <bigfoot1> brenner: i use opera, so that doesn't help much
[01:38] <brenner> i guess not :)
[01:38] <purpleidea> seiherlbob: look into rsync maybe? "man rsync"
[01:38] <corvus_> i installed with a netinstall...
[01:39] <bigfoot1> brenner: but there's good news. in firefox, it is     File name: libflashplayer.so     Shockwave Flash 7.0 r25
[01:39] <sando> nathanj: could well be, ho't sound quite right, unless it's an APP for a TOBE linux media centre pc.  You might also want to look into MythTV (Google It)
[01:39] <yanimax> purpleide: actually, I've googled one there http://www.javacoffeebreak.com/java101/java101.html, it looked very simple but it didn't work for me, I first compiled the code with "javac myfirstjavaprog.java" and then execute the program "java myfirstjavaprog", but it returns the following error message : 'Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: myfirstprog'
[01:39] <sando> nathanj *not
[01:39] <instabin> Can i get some help with winehttp://pastebin.com/564267
[01:39] <purpleidea> elorakun: ps i forgot also post: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:39] <Sythen> Ugh, my computer isn't starting up now.. it is staying at *Checking battery state... sheduler.....ystemerface daemon...
[01:39] <brenner> bigfoot1: i have the same version.  i couldn't access the site either.  maybe the resolution is to get flash 8 as it says?
[01:39] <peej_> xored: hey, I don't know iptables syntax. I just look up stuff in the nutshell book. Sorry.
[01:40] <sando> Sythen: what do you need help with in terms of configuring X
[01:40] <bigfoot1> people, how do i get flash 8 for ubuntu?
[01:40] <GTX> Seveas,  I cannot play any games without currupted sound and its really annoying I dont know whats up with it, should I buy a new sound card or?
[01:40] <sando> xored: you're best bet is the iptables\ipchains HHOWTO on The Linux Documentstation project
[01:41] <Sythen> Well, I installed xubuntu-desktop, and when I started xfce, X was messed up, with lines going down the screen.. I couldn't kill X, so I restarted the computer
[01:41] <purpleidea> bigfoot1: check macromedia.com i'll get you a link hold on
[01:41] <intelikey> tldp.org
[01:41] <sando> intelikey: thx...i'm getting tired now :(
[01:42] <GTX> I cannot play any games without currupted sound and its really annoying I dont know whats up with it, should I buy a new sound card or?
[01:42] <GTX> and yideas
[01:42] <sando> Sythen: it's most likely the install of XFCE has botched your Horz. Sync
[01:42] <GTX> any ideas*
[01:42] <peej_> Sythen: to kill x you can ctrl backspace. To drop to console, ctrl-alt-f1  or f2 etc
[01:42] <intelikey> sando i already did.
[01:42] <EloraKun> purpleidea: I've commented out the unimportant stuff: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8955
[01:42] <purpleidea> bigfoot1: actually sorry, i can't get you a direct link right now, i'm out of bandwidth (just check the site they have get flash player, and versions for linux)
[01:42] <corvus_> bintut do you mean the binary-amd64?
[01:42] <sando> Sythen: it's most likely the install of XFCE has botched your Horz. Sync
[01:42] <Sythen> which means ....?
[01:42] <bintut> can anyone here do the command "apt-cache show kernel-package" on their ubuntu-5.10 amd64?  please, i need your help.  please post it at http://pastebin.com/ or pmsg it to me. thank you in advance..
[01:42] <elkbuntu> Sythen, was this in dapper you tried xubuntu-desktop?
[01:43] <vix> Hi, in Kde, no see icons in the aplication Evolution.
[01:43] <gsuveg> bzr usable with eclipse ?
[01:43] <intelikey> Sythen sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:43] <Sythen> no not dapper, it is in breezy
[01:43] <GTX> Can someone hear help me with sound?
[01:43] <sando> Sythen: Sythen: it's most likely the install of XFCE has botched your Horz. Sync and Vert. Sync Refresh rates, and possible the resolution your graphics card can handle and or monitor.  Basically 3 things: Refresh rate, Resolution and maaaaybe colour depth
[01:43] <GTX> here*
[01:43] <peej_> sythens: means you can fix by editing the horz sync in /etc/X11/.... dunno exactly where
[01:43] <jhhdk> apologies for repeating question "synaptic: "Depends: xyz but is not going to be installed." what does it mean, how can i fix?" wasn't sure anyone noticed.
[01:43] <bintut> corvus_: i just need to know the dependency packages of the kernel-package in ubuntu-5.10 amd64
[01:44] <elkbuntu> Sythen, well try asking in #xubuntu
[01:44] <Sythen> intelikey, i did that, but it said at the end it had overwritten a possibly customized config, that it made a backup
[01:44] <peej_> jhhdk: so you tried installing xyz separately?
[01:44] <Sythen> elkbuntu, i did
[01:45] <elkbuntu> Sythen, they all asleep?
[01:45] <Sythen> i was told to ask here
[01:45] <sando> peej_ \ sythen: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <instabin> need some help with wine http://pastebin.com/564267
[01:45] <elkbuntu> Sythen, o.O
[01:45] <GTX> I cannot play any games without currupted sound and its really annoying I dont know whats up with it, should I buy a new sound card or?
[01:45] <intelikey> Sythen using any special drivers ?  nvidia   ati  ?
[01:45] <nathanj> sando: yeah myth tv looks good
[01:45] <bigfoot1> purpleidea: flash 8 is doesn't seem to be available for linux, yet, according to the site.
[01:45] <LoRd-Phr3x> Hi, is anyone else having problems with updating Dapper Drake 6.04?
[01:45] <Sythen> well i am using a generic intel gfx card
[01:45] <xsquared> hi, is there a program that sits in the notification area of gnome that shows the status of a wireless link?
[01:45] <peej_> Sythen : kewl, so you have a back up config to fix things. Look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf at xorg.conf and similar file with maybe a ~ extension.
[01:46] <nathanj> sando: i might dual boot it with windows as the box comes with its own software (wibndows only )
[01:46] <elkbuntu> LoRd-Phr3x, in what way?
[01:46] <LoRd-Phr3x> or know where i can get the new repositores?
[01:46] <Sythen> peej_, i never got it to work, nothing would  be changed
[01:46] <bintut> can anyone here do the command "apt-cache show kernel-package" on their ubuntu-5.10 amd64?  please, i need your help.  please post it at http://pastebin.com/ or pmsg it to me. thank you in advance..
[01:46] <MrRio> how do i make java apps looks like gtk ones?
[01:46] <LoRd-Phr3x> i'm getting 404's on the archive links
[01:46] <purpleidea> bigfoot1: is it available for windows?
[01:46] <intelikey> then if you had not done some special tweeking it should not have been a custom config.
[01:46] <seicherlbob> Is there an easy way to keep a local folder syncronized to a samba-share (on my laptop to sync my home on the fileserver)?
[01:46] <intelikey> Sythen  ^
[01:47] <bigfoot1> purpleidea: yes
[01:47] <Joan> where could get some info on how to format my HDD to fat32, I want the files in the partition to be accesible for Windows xp
[01:47] <intelikey> so Sythen did the reconfigure fix it or do you need to change the monitor section again ?
[01:47] <corvus_> linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic ?
[01:47] <Sythen> i did the reconfigure earlier, then i restarted the comp
[01:48] <peej_> Sythen: hey, I gotta go. But technique for fixing the sync (most likely culprit) is to lspci to see what card you have, then google for what other ubuntu linux people have done to have that card work to the conf file. Apply the fix (usually change in numbers) and watch it work.
[01:48] <elkbuntu> LoRd-Phr3x, i'm having no trouble with my repos. did you only just upgrade?
[01:48] <intelikey> Joan sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hd?#
[01:48] <xsquared> zomg
[01:48] <LoRd-Phr3x> yeah i just installed it then, downloaded 6.04 earlier
[01:48] <xsquared> i love netapplet
[01:48] <bintut> corvus_: "apt-cache show kernel-package" please on your console. thanks
[01:48] <Joan> that\s all_
[01:49] <xsquared> I LOVE YOU UBUNTU
[01:49] <elkbuntu> LoRd-Phr3x, hold a sec, i'll pastebin my repo list
[01:49] <LoRd-Phr3x> cool thanks
[01:49] <purpleidea> bigfoot: sorry then you'll have to wait, although likely the actual file will still play on a 7.x flash plugin, there might be javascript checking for if you have v.8 but irregardless if it stops you it might still play.
[01:49] <intelikey> joan but you do know that linux can not live in vfat file system don't you ?
[01:49] <irvin> bintut: have you looked at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/kernel-package
[01:49] <purpleidea> elorakun: haven't forgotten just a little bogged down thanks for patience
[01:49] <Joan> yes true, but I just need a part of the HDD
[01:50] <irvin> !info kernel-package
[01:50] <ubotu> kernel-package: (A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.), section misc, is optional. Version: 9.001ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 352 kB, Installed size: 1316 kB
[01:50] <sando> MrRio: generally Java's interface is quite backwards, and making it look anything like cute n' cuddely XP or GTK is probably a no go....although, then again, limewire did it, however, i fear that;s a combination of stuff...i don't know
[01:50] <intelikey> yeah to format use mkfs.vfat   to partition cfdisk  joan
[01:50] <corvus_> Depends: perl, dpkg (>= 1.4), dpkg-dev (>= 1.4.0.9), gcc | c-compiler, make
[01:50] <corvus_> Recommends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, bzip2
[01:50] <Joan> ok, thks
[01:50] <purpleidea> elorakun: i can only open a certain # of connections, so in 5 min when a download finished it should work sorry
[01:51] <sando> nathanj: goodo....dual boot with windows?  eeek!  I'm pretty sure that there's a howto on the net somewhere for making a Linux HTPC....you may want to look for it
[01:51] <Joan> and for fat32 theres a command in cfdisk_
[01:51] <Joan> ?
[01:52] <Sythen> Hey, I just did lspci, but what do i google for to get the settings for my video card?
[01:52] <brenner> Sythen: what's the problem?
[01:52] <sando> * Sando is leaving due to tiredness :(  Hope i helped you out all heaps :)
[01:52] <intelikey> cfdisk will make the partition yes.... but you will need to "format"  or make the filesystem on that partition,   and there will be a notice about a man page for you to read joan
[01:52] <Joan> ok
[01:53] <Joan> thx intelikey, gotta go now
[01:53] <LoRd-Phr3x> brb
[01:53] <intelikey> k
[01:53] <elkbuntu> LoRd-Phr3x, http://pastebin.com/564283
[01:53] <corvus_> bintut i have to go!
[01:53] <Sythen> brenner, well i tried installing xubuntu, X is messed up, it just has lines down the screen when started, so i restarted the comp, and someone else told me to lspci to see what card i have, then google for what other people have done, but i dont know what to google for
[01:53] <corvus_> Package: kernel-package
[01:53] <corvus_> Priority: optional
[01:53] <corvus_> Section: misc
[01:53] <corvus_> Installed-Size: 1316
[01:53] <corvus_> Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
[01:53] <corvus_> Architecture: all
[01:53] <corvus_> Version: 9.001ubuntu5
[01:54] <corvus_> Depends: perl, dpkg (>= 1.4), dpkg-dev (>= 1.4.0.9), gcc | c-compiler, make
[01:54] <corvus_> Recommends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, bzip2
[01:54] <corvus_> Suggests: kernel-source, libdb3-dev, libncurses-dev, docbook-utils
[01:54] <corvus_> Filename: pool/main/k/kernel-package/kernel-package_9.001ubuntu5_all.deb
[01:54] <intelikey> nice flood
[01:54] <Yagisan> corvus_: use a pastebin - don't paste here
[01:54] <jhhdk> from what i can see, it seems like eclipse-jdt package is broken, can anyone confirm?
[01:54] <corvus_> sorry
[01:54] <brenner> Sythen: what card do you have?
[01:54] <Sythen> some intel ting
[01:54] <corvus_> it's my first time...on Xchat IRC
[01:54] <Sythen> thing*
[01:55] <brenner> Sythen: lspci | grep vga
[01:55] <bach2> ola
[01:55] <bach2> ola
[01:56] <Sythen> brenner, that outputs nothing
[01:56] <brenner> sorry: lspci | grep VGA
[01:56] <Sythen> yeah i just got that
[01:57] <seicherlbob> anybody knows the package synctree?
[01:57] <intelikey> Sythen maybe enable vesa in the  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'   and be sure you DO NOT select the simplest monitor configuration.  use the middle one if in doubt.
[01:57] <purpleidea> man synctree
[01:57] <Sythen> intelikey, i did enable vesa, its been enabled the whole time
[01:57] <purpleidea> seicherlbob: you have to do some looking on your own :D
[01:58] <seicherlbob> purpleidea: well. sorry, but google was no big help and i'd like to ask here first, before installing something i dont know.
[01:58] <intelikey> Sythen ok disable it then....   i'm not hard to ge along with.      the idea is if one configuration isn't working try another.
[01:58] <Sythen> But what else do i use?
[01:59] <intelikey> ah xorg ?
[01:59] <purpleidea> seicherlbob: no worries, i'm just offering the suggestion, b/c otherwise you might have harder times doing harder things when you are at the top of your game. google has man files that you can find
[02:00] <seicherlbob> just wanted to know, if i can use synctree for syncing between laptop and fileserver-home, so i can work when i'm not at home.
[02:00] <kenas> hi
[02:00] <LoRd-Phr3x> thanks elkbuntu :)
[02:00] <Steil> hey
[02:01] <Steil> live hot horny sex for only $3.95 per minute, all major credit cards accepted.
[02:01] <LoRd-Phr3x> bbs, need to sort something out
[02:01] <kenas> does anyone knows how to configure a network printer ?
[02:01] <kenas> can anyone help me on PVT
[02:01] <tbone> hello all i have a litle problem. how i can install an ftp server: apt-get install ftp ????
[02:01] <tbone> thx
[02:01] <elkbuntu> LoRd-Phr3x, if they dont work, it'll probably be because of something out of your control
[02:02] <Steil> $3.95 isn't that much money boys. First 5 minutes free. Very discrete, your lady friend will never find out.
[02:02] <intelikey> kenas pvt ?   as in privet pm /mgs ?   no.   ask in here so anyone that knows can answer.
[02:02] <xsquared> tbone, sudo apt-get install ftpd
[02:02] <elkbuntu> eww ugly bot
[02:02] <tbone> ok thx i will try this now
[02:02] <elkbuntu> !op
[02:02] <ubotu> elkbuntu: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:02] <elkbuntu> !ops
[02:02] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[02:03] <Steil> What about you elkbuntu? Would you like a  go
[02:03] <Steil> oh shit
[02:03] <Steil> no
[02:03] <Steil> i was just kidding
[02:03] <Steil> oh my god
[02:03] <Steil> I'm sorry
[02:03] <Steil> I'm just a bit intoxicated
[02:03] <elkbuntu> woohoo
[02:03] <kenas> i am trying to access a network printer wich is connected to a Windows network... with no success at all
[02:03] <Yagisan> heh - that was amusing
[02:03] <GTX> I cannot play any games without currupted sound and its really annoying I dont know whats up with it, should I buy a new sound card or?
[02:04] <xsquared> tbone, next time you want to find something, try sudo apt-cache search <search term>
[02:04] <kenas> i think i have SMB installed
[02:06] <kenas> "Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[02:06] <kenas> can someone help me pls ?
[02:07] <xsquared> kenas, that means you didn't provide the right username/password
[02:07] <_mindspin> kenas does the account exist on the samba machine?
[02:07] <tbone> xsquared: thx for your help but i became an error that the file /etc/inetd.conf ist not there i have check witht the root user and the file is realy not there.
[02:07] <Yagisan> kenas: did you use the right username/password ? (case sensitive)
[02:07] <kenas> the server whr i am trying to connect has no login or password
[02:08] <_mindspin> is it win or linux, your server?
[02:08] <kenas> how can i check my samba account
[02:08] <kenas> ?
[02:09] <tbone> kenas: will you check if your service leaving?
[02:09] <kenas> and my netwrok is not properly done..
[02:09] <kenas> i can connect sometimes..
[02:09] <kenas> and others i cant access the network
[02:09] <kenas> :S
[02:10] <tbone> have you any firewalls in your network?
[02:10] <tbone> i think that hears strange that you can not reach the samba sometimes
[02:10] <kenas> on this client..
[02:10] <kenas> but not on the server
[02:10] <tbone> ok
[02:11] <kenas> i know its strange..
[02:12] <kenas> can someone help me to configure my network properly ?
[02:13] <kenas> lets start from there.. then !
[02:14] <tbone> check when you conenct to your samba server if the command smbstatus see your connection
[02:14] <tbone> i think ping is running ?
[02:14] <tbone> its the same client sure?
[02:15] <kenas> kenas@kenas:~$ smbstatus
[02:15] <kenas> Global parameter workgroup found in service section!
[02:15] <kenas> Global parameter netbios name found in service section!
[02:15] <kenas> Samba version 3.0.14a-Ubuntu
[02:15] <kenas> PID     Username      Group         Machine
[02:15] <kenas> -------------------------------------------------------------------
[02:15] <kenas> Service      pid     machine       Connected at
[02:15] <kenas> -------------------------------------------------------
[02:15] <kenas> No locked files
[02:15] <kenas> kenas@kenas:~$
[02:16] <tbone> how you connect the smb session? mount .... or smbmount....?
[02:16] <tbone> mount -t smbfs //ip/share /mntpoint -o username=[username] 
[02:16] <Seveas> kenas, NEVER paste in here...
[02:16] <kenas> sorry
[02:17] <elkbuntu> seveas ubotu informed him by pm
[02:17] <tbone> yes sure but send not your passwort i will see the command
[02:18] <xsquared> tbone, u still here?
[02:18] <xsquared> tbone, do you have the inet superserver installed?
[02:18] <tbone> yes
[02:18] <tbone> but sorry i came later beacause i have now a meeting
[02:18] <tbone> cu later
[02:19] <xsquared> bye
[02:19] <tbone> bye and thx
[02:19] <xsquared> np
[02:19] <rysiek> hi there guys
[02:20] <rysiek> need some guru help: I have a user A, and a file ~A/script.sh
[02:20] <rysiek> I want user B to be able to execute file ~A/script.sh *as* the user A
[02:20] <purpleide1> elorakun: still there?
[02:21] <rysiek> (the script modifies some files, for which I do not want to give group or other access)
[02:21] <k31th> Guys, i mounted a 200gig usb2 drive. I formatted the drive with ext3 and mounted it by doing 'mount /dev/sda1 /media/backup' however normal users cannot read write to the drive
[02:21] <k31th> wat do i need to do?
[02:22] <rysiek> anybody?
[02:22] <soundray> rysiek, is this supposed to work without A having B's password?
[02:23] <k31th> rysiek: sudo to that user ?
[02:23] <soundray> k31th, chmod the mountpoint?
[02:25] <k31th> soundray: wtf
[02:26] <soundray> rysiek, a clean solution that doesn't give A unlimited rights to act as B is using ssh. You can enable that specific script to be run by any user who authenticates with a purpose-made key.
[02:27] <hade> is there a way to download entire directories and sub-directories using the ftp command?
[02:27] <soundray> k31th, what does wtf stand for?
[02:27] <xsquared> soundray, what the fuck
[02:27] <Alth> Holy shit that's a lot of people.
[02:27] <soundray> Alth, don't worry, they're not talking all at once right now.
[02:28] <xsquared> Alth, we are all clones
[02:28] <Alth> Indeed.
[02:28] <mqueiros> hade: using ftp, i don't know... but you can use wget -m
[02:28] <rysiek> soundray: sorry for silence
[02:28] <rysiek> nope, no ssh, no passwords/sudo here
[02:28] <rysiek> actually, the script is supposed to run on CVS commitinfo
[02:29] <rysiek> so no interactivity possible
[02:30] <rysiek> I thought I can do it with sticky bits somehow, but I haven't succeeded yet
[02:30] <ydo> argh.. now that I've upgraded from breezy to dapper my X using NVIDIAs driver does not work :P anyone knows why?
[02:30] <soundray> rysiek, with sticky bits A can run B's script, but not *as* B, afaik.
[02:31] <rysiek> soundray: A can always run B scripts when chmod o+x is set
[02:31] <rysiek> on them
[02:31] <soundray> rysiek, you can modify the script to wait for a string to appear on a named pipe that A has write access to.
[02:32] <rysiek> but look at the passwd command - it has sticky bits set
[02:32] <Effi> hi
[02:32] <rysiek> and though it modifies files that only root has write access to
[02:32] <rysiek> it can be run as any user
[02:32] <rysiek> sooo...
[02:32] <rysiek> ...this user runs passwd *as* root
[02:32] <rysiek> without sudoing
[02:33] <rysiek> named pipes, ssh-keys and so on
[02:33] <soundray> !enter
[02:33] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:33] <rysiek> aye, I'll try to remember that :)
[02:33] <Effi> I have the following problem: I have an American keyboard but when  I choose the American layout in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard it won`t be applied. Can me say somebody why the American layout can`t be taken?
[02:34] <Ng> rysiek: it's not sticky bits, it's setuid
[02:34] <Ng> setuid/setgid control the privileges something runs as
[02:34] <soundray> Ng, thanks. Had a mental block there...
[02:34] <rysiek> aaah, that's the bastard. thx Ng! :)
[02:34] <possie> my 'ctrl' key and 'shift' stopped working, anyone that might have a clue what this could have caused/
[02:35] <Ng> rysiek: generally speaking I don't think you can setuid a shell script
[02:35] <soundray> possie, is that in X or on the console, or both?
[02:36] <possie> in x, let me try console
[02:36] <possie> soundray, how i can't go to my console, since i can't pret ctrl alt f1
[02:36] <possie> press
[02:36] <soundray> possie, do you have two of each (Ctrl and Shift), or is it a laptop?
[02:36] <soundray> possie, chvt 1
[02:37] <possie> soundray, no it's a desktop system, but both ctrl's won't work
[02:37] <ydo> dapper+nvidia anyone?
[02:37] <possie> soundray, some hold for both 'shift' keys
[02:37] <soundray> possie, perhaps Capslock is set to work as control?
[02:37] <possie> soundray, no, just tried it
[02:38] <possie> soundray, ah, 'alt' still works i pressing  alt s in xchat unfolds a menu item
[02:38] <soundray> possie, run chvt 1 and check on the console, if it works on the console, restart X, if not, restart the box.
[02:38] <Ng> ydo: should be the same as in breezy
[02:38] <palantir> man.. i just delete all my panel (up & bottom) how to recover it back ???
[02:39] <soundray> palantir, did you actually delete them, or did gnome-panel crash?
[02:39] <elkbuntu> palantir, try restarting x with ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:39] <palantir> i actually delete them.... :)
[02:39] <rysiek> Ng: no, you can't, it's a C function, there is no such command :/
[02:40] <rysiek> anyway, lurking and searching, meybe I'll find a solution
[02:40] <Ng> rysiek: nooo, there is a permission bit, chmod +s /path/to/some/binary
[02:40] <Ng> rysiek: but as I said, I don't think it works with shell scripts
[02:41] <ydo> Ng: starting X it complains glx and nvidia module isn't there
[02:41] <rysiek> yep, I know, doing testing now
[02:41] <scapor> someone here using amsn with tcl/tk 8.5 and who also uses some mono program (beagle/f-spot/tomboy/banshee...) ?. I need you for a test (I'm a amsn developper).  please msg me
[02:41] <soundray> palantir, I don't think you'll be able to recover them. You may have to create a new user and copy the default panel config over from there.
[02:41] <possie> soundray, i can only get to the terminal, i don't know how to get into the real terminal, since 'ctrl' isn't working
[02:41] <palantir> ok.. where to copy..?
[02:41] <soundray> possie READ! 'chvt 1'
[02:42] <Ng> ydo: have you installed nvidia-glx?
[02:42] <soundray> possie, if that doesn't work, 'sudo chvt 1'.
[02:42] <ydo> Ng: no, I'm doing it now, before I only needed the driver I got from nvidias homepage
[02:42] <soundray> palantir, $HOME/.gnome/panel
[02:43] <soundray> palantir, sorry...
[02:43] <palantir> thanks .. i'll try
[02:43] <soundray> palantir, $HOME/.gnome2/panel2.d
[02:43] <Ng> ydo: it's easier to use the driver from ubuntu's repositories :)
[02:43] <possie> soundray, i can't type my password since it has uppercase characters in them, and 'shift' isn't working either
[02:43] <ydo> Ng: ok, it supports everything?
[02:44] <soundray> possie, open another terminal, 'man ascii', and copy and paste the required characters.
[02:44] <soundray> possie, or start with the other suggestion, rebooting the box.
[02:44] <Ng> ydo: dapper currently has version 8178 of nvidia's driver
[02:45] <rysiek> Ng: nope, it doesn't seem to work, thx anyway
[02:45] <psYchotic> is there any way to get past or recover from this:
[02:45] <psYchotic> tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[02:45] <psYchotic> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:45] <ydo> Ng: ah! nice! :)
[02:46] <pianoboy3333> Can someone here help me with setting up a printer?
[02:47] <christian> in terminal it says " requested operation requires supervisor privilegdge"
[02:47] <soundray> psYchotic, sounds like your tar file is truncated. tar should be able to unpack files from the fragment, but anything that's not there just isn't there, sorry.
[02:47] <christian> how do i get in as root to  install packages
[02:47] <christian> i know the password
[02:47] <Ng> christian: run the command with "sudo " in front
[02:47] <soundray> christian, 'sudo apt-get install....'
[02:47] <psYchotic> hm, ok, I guess I'll just have to do without the WINDOWS directory =D
[02:47] <Ng> then give it your password
[02:48] <soundray> pianoboy3333, I'll try. What's the problem?
[02:48] <ejofee> i added "GtkTreeViewColumn::set_min_width = 5" to a style in "~/.gtkrc-2.0". any idea why it wouldn't apply? (all other variables from the same style do apply)
[02:49] <palantir> i have printer to its canon i255 and its not working....
[02:50] <ydo> OK, now I got X and gdm, metacity, gnome-panel but a gnome-session does not run correctly and gives me an xterm..
[02:50] <ydo> where can I see logs?
[02:51] <soundray> ydo, ~/.xsession-errors
[02:51] <rouven_> Hi everybody.
[02:51] <soundray> ydo, and make sure gdm isn't set to go to failsafe by default.
[02:52] <soundray> ejofee, it may require restarting X, or it may be a bug.
[02:52] <pianoboy3333> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8956 is my /etc/cups/printers.conf file, is there anything missing in the DeviceURI line that I need? john would be my username KENDELL is the name of the computer that the printer is attached to, and hpLaser is the share name of the printer.
[02:52] <Angel_Dex> how do i tell what mobo i gots
[02:52] <rouven_> Can i mount an NFS3 Share with ACL enabled and modify that ACLs from my Dapper Box Do i have to pass special mount options?
[02:53] <ejofee> soundray: haven't thought of the x11 thing
[02:53] <ejofee> soundray: thanks
[02:53] <Ng> Angel_Dex: dmidecode might be able to tell you
[02:53] <Angel_Dex> Ng that is?
[02:53] <ahmad> did anyone had installed ingres on ubuntu?
[02:54] <possie> soundray, nice command 'chvt' in console it just worked
[02:54] <ejofee> soundray: it's about a "bug" which most gtk-apps users wish could be fixed and nobody cares about them
[02:54] <possie> soundray, ctrl, shift, etc
[02:54] <hade> is there a way to download entire directories and sub-directories using the ftp command?
[02:54] <ydo> soundray: "/etc/gdm/Xsession: executing default failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator"
[02:54] <Ng> Angel_Dex: a tool that reads out information from the system, like what's attached to it
[02:54] <ydo> soundray: thats kind of terse
[02:54] <soundray> possie, is it fixed then?
[02:54] <Ng> Angel_Dex: run it and see :)
[02:55] <ydo> hade: use lftp
[02:55] <Angel_Dex> Ng does it come stock or i gotta install it?
[02:55] <hade> k thanks ydo
[02:55] <possie> soundray, no i my x session it still doesn't work, i'll just go for a x restart, but i have to wait for something to complete first
[02:55] <soundray> pianoboy3333, I would try using it via IPP instead of smb.
[02:55] <pianoboy3333> soundray: how?
[02:56] <ideafix> any one usimng expresso ?
[02:56] <soundray> pianoboy3333, replace smb with ipp in printers.conf
[02:56] <pianoboy3333> ok
[02:57] <pianoboy3333> let me try
[02:57] <soundray> ydo, it is. Terse, I mean. Are you low on disk space?
[02:58] <ydo> soundray: no I have plenty
[02:58] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen using expresso to install and the regualer way ?
[02:58] <pianoboy3333> soundray: I get this error normally, Printing: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...KID3 exited with status 0
[02:58] <warpzone> pardon, I'm new to linux and having trouble mounting an additional drive, though I did the standard steps. Can somebody lend a quick hand?
[02:59] <Munich> does any one know any software in windows to see the ubuntu folders ?
[02:59] <soundray> pianoboy3333, are you sharing the printer from a Windows or samba box?
[02:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell Munich about explore2fs
[02:59] <jop> salut
[02:59] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen using expresso to install and the regular way ?
[02:59] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen using expresso to install and the regular way ?
[02:59] <_jason> !fr
[02:59] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:59] <pianoboy3333> soundray: Windows XP, but doesn't that need samba? should I uninstall samba?
[03:00] <Angel_Dex> Ng is baseboard the mobo?
[03:00] <soundray> pianoboy3333, to use a remote printer, you don't need samba, but it won't do any harm, either.
[03:00] <soundray> pianoboy3333, does the printer work locally on XP?
[03:00] <ideafix> i friend of mine told me that in the center of debian is a blackhole
[03:00] <_jason> warpzone: have you read the wiki page?
[03:00] <ideafix> i friend of mine told me that at the center of debian is a blackhole
[03:00] <visik7> firefox sometimes on some pages hangs for a few seconds
[03:01] <visik7> what could be the couse of this ?
[03:01] <Ng> Angel_Dex: possibly, yeah
[03:01] <ideafix> i friend of mine told me that at the center of debian galaxy is a blackhole
[03:01] <pianoboy3333> soundray: yes, and it's networked to me (since I have a dual boot) and I can get it in windows
[03:01] <ardchoille> Is there a place I can download a test release of Dapper?
[03:01] <warpzone> _jason: just the linuxplanet howto, I'll check the wiki, thanks
[03:01] <soundray> ydo, can you run 'export DISPLAY=:0 ; gnome-session' on the console and see if that gives a more detailed error message?
[03:01] <ydo> soundray: I ran the session with -x
[03:01] <_jason> warpzone: what filesystem?
[03:01] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen using expresso to install and the regular way ?
[03:01] <warpzone> _jason: ntfs
[03:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell warpzone about ntfs
[03:02] <ardchoille> !dapper
[03:02] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[03:02] <pianoboy3333> soundray: is the username and password it asks you for of any importance? Is it my username and password?
[03:02] <ydo> soundray: it seems like command = failsafe, but I choose gnome in gdm menu
[03:02] <ideafix> !flight
[03:02] <ubotu> ideafix: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:02] <pilen> how to eject a cd from the terminal?
[03:02] <soundray> ideafix, nobody seems to know right now. Ask again in 30 minutes.
[03:02] <Munich> _jason does that also work with ext3 ?
[03:02] <ideafix> any one using flight ?
[03:02] <ardchoille> pilen: type:  eject /dev/hdc  (or whatever your device is)
[03:02] <Angel_Dex> Ng Ugh how can i tell what CPU i can handle?
[03:03] <_jason> Munich: yes
[03:03] <pianoboy3333> soundray: is there a special network thing I have to do on the XP box so I can print to it from linux?
[03:03] <soundray> pianoboy3333, I don't know enough about Windows, but I think you set the credentials when you setup printer sharing.
[03:03] <ideafix> robin debian planet is down
[03:03] <_jason> Munich: I've only use the explore2fs program myself, but I know of others that have used fs-driver
[03:03] <pianoboy3333> soundray: and what about the username and pass that it asks you for with the gui?
[03:03] <ydo> soundray: I tried to run gnome-session inside that failsafe xterm with metacity loaded, then the session boots up.. odd
[03:04] <ideafix> what are the other ubuntu related channels ?
[03:04] <soundray> pianoboy3333, I don't know enough about Windows.
[03:04] <Ng> Angel_Dex: console the manual for your motherboard
[03:04] <soundray> ideafix, run /topic
[03:04] <beeswax> anyone knows when dapper final's supposed to be released?
[03:04] <Ng> beeswax: april 20th
[03:04] <beeswax> thx
[03:04] <pianoboy3333> soundray: kk
[03:04] <Angel_Dex> Ng got none
[03:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell ideafix about irc
[03:04] <Ng> Angel_Dex: once you find out what it is, download it from their website
[03:04] <soundray> ydo, does it show you any errors in the xterm?
[03:05] <pilen> what about when im in this path "root@linux:/usr/bin#
[03:05] <pilen> " how can i get back to the folder usr? cd /usr?
[03:05] <Angel_Dex> Ng ok
[03:05] <renlore> what software can I receive radio podcast feed?
[03:05] <WiFiAlready> how i take a key? i need for ati drivers update
[03:05] <soundray> !info ipodder
[03:05] <nick01> /etc/dhcpd.conf line 4: expecting a parameter or declaration.
[03:05] <nick01> ddns-update-style
[03:05] <ubotu> ipodder: (a podcast receiver), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 568 kB, Installed size: 2500 kB
[03:05] <Yagisan> Angel_Dex: look at the m/b manufacturers website. sometimes you need a certain bios revision before you can use a certain cpu
[03:05] <nick01> how do I get rid of that error ?
[03:06] <WiFiAlready> !apt-key
[03:06] <nick01> /etc/dhcpd.conf line 4: expecting a parameter or declaration. ?
[03:06] <ubotu> WiFiAlready: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:06] <renlore> thanks
[03:06] <Davey|Work> is there any way to update to breezy but limit the transfer speed for grabbing the packages? I can't saturate the line here
[03:06] <nick01> I try to run dhcpd
[03:06] <ideafix> theres more ubuntu channels that i care to mention
[03:08] <soundray> Davey|Work, you are asking about QoS and traffic shaping. I don't think there's a straightforward quickfix type solution.
[03:08] <Angel_Dex> Ng I put in the serial number and all i get is a list of every ferking comp with deskpro in it
[03:08] <instabin> can i get some help with this wine error http://pastebin.com/564267
[03:08] <Davey|Work> soundray, well, wget supposed --limit-rate :)
[03:09] <soundray> Davey|Work, I never!
[03:09] <xerophyte> i have bind and its eth0 configured with 1200 ips .. when i start the bind on that server i get this error "could not listen on UDP socket: not enough free resources" dont ask me why there is 1200 ips its client issue ;)
[03:09] <Davey|Work> soundray, heh
[03:09] <Munich> _jason thanks its working now
[03:09] <Davey|Work> !tell me about dapper
[03:09] <soundray> Davey|Work, so the question is now how to give the wget a parameter when apt calls it.
[03:09] <Davey|Work> soundray, right :)
[03:10] <warpzone> I'll check the wiki more and drop back here. Adios!
[03:10] <jackson> Need Help. New to linux. Cant change screen resolution from 640X480.
[03:10] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enable the 3d software rendering? i have the driver called: xserver-xorg-via my chip model km800 is in it's description. I'm on laptop, the glxgears i very slow, so i think the 3drendering isn'T enabled.
[03:10] <_jason> jackson: are you able to use system > prefs > screen resolution
[03:10] <ydo> jackson: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with networking and all that?
[03:11] <jackson> From the system prefs, only 640X480 is in the list. What next
[03:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell jackson about fixres
[03:12] <pilen> any linux gamers in here?
[03:12] <jackson> where do l locate fixres
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> pilen, yes i am
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> but i have problems on this amchine.
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> @ home i paly ut2k4 under linux
[03:13] <pilen> what games do you play?
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enable the 3d software rendering? i have the driver called: xserver-xorg-via my chip model km800 is in it's description. I'm on laptop, the glxgears i very slow, so i think the 3drendering isn'T enabled.
[03:13] <soundray> Davey|Work, still thinking...
[03:13] <pilen> under cedega?
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> under ubuntu... simple
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> not emulating
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> ut2k4 have a linux version
[03:14] <rikai> !iso
[03:14] <ubotu> somebody said iso was download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:14] <maxkelley> hey, how do I remove a package that refuses to reinstall, install, or uninstall itself?
[03:14] <soundray> jackson, look at the private message from ubotu.
[03:14] <pilen> ohhh
[03:14] <rikai> !mountiso
[03:14] <ubotu> To mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[03:14] <jhenn> whats a good calendaring app for linux?
[03:14] <soundray> jhenn, cal :)
[03:14] <pilen> do you use any emulator for games?
[03:15] <Puff-n-Stuff> morning all.
[03:15] <pete__> !botsnack
[03:15] <ubotu> :)
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> no i'm only tried ut2k4
[03:15] <pilen> ubontu: tell me how to compile cedega
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> @ this laptop under win, ut does work, but udner ubuntu i can'T enable the 3d rendering, and nobody help me:(
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with networking, printer sharing and all of that to get an ubuntu computer to access and print to a HP LaserJet 1000 on an XP machine?
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> !samba
[03:16] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:17] <pianoboy3333> !smb
[03:17] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:17] <pilen> i installed wine to play warcraft 3 but its asking for direct x 8.1 or newer :s i tho wine has directX installed
[03:17] <Puff-n-Stuff> pianoboy3333, you will need cups to connect to the smb share off of the xp box most likely.
[03:17] <Seveas> !tell pilen about cedega
[03:17] <MetaMorfoziS> !s3
[03:17] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[03:18] <MetaMorfoziS> !3drendering
[03:18] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[03:18] <MetaMorfoziS> !3d
[03:18] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:18] <AlinuxOS> hello
[03:18] <soundray> Davey|Work, still here?
[03:18] <pianoboy3333> Puff-n-Stuff: How do I do that/Can you give me a page to go to?
[03:18] <pilen> Seveas !tell pilen about cedega<--- i dont buy software....
[03:18] <yayo> hi, i've been searching and fiddling quite a while now, what's the easiest way of installing java on ppc (for dev. stuff, i actually want eclipse to work)
[03:18] <AlinuxOS> can someone tell me if there is Ubuntu Installation HOWTO form zero? partitoning etc etc..??
[03:18] <Seveas> pilen, then you can't play warcraft.
[03:18] <purpleidea> AlinuxOS: yeah i think so
[03:19] <purpleidea> AlinuxOS: lemme see if google has it
[03:19] <pianoboy3333> Seveas: you don't need cedega for Warcraft 3, he may just need to switch the default OS for wine to XP
[03:19] <AlinuxOS> can you tell me a link please?
[03:19] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enabla 3drenderng?
[03:19] <AlinuxOS> purpleidea, can't find dummy howto
[03:19] <yayo> i wanted to download the ibm i/pseries java but the page seems to be down :(
[03:19] <pilen> but on the wine website it says you can
[03:19] <AlinuxOS> I need really Ubuntu installation for dummies
[03:19] <purpleidea> hold on
[03:19] <AlinuxOS> with screenshots etc..
[03:19] <soundray> Davey, ping
[03:19] <pilen> with wine*
[03:19] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enabla 3drenderng?
[03:20] <Puff-n-Stuff> have run into a bit of a problem with breezy having a royal fit and kernel panic on boot with this adaptec scsi card and i2o drivers.  Seems it is loading two different drivers that are competing with each other, dpt_i2o and i2o_core I think....any idea where/what I need to modify to get it to load only one?   I got the same problem with the breezy install cd so did an install of earlier version and upgraded..
[03:20] <purpleidea> AlinuxOS: which you installing? breezy?
[03:20] <rikai> new
[03:20] <rikai> ack
[03:21] <purpleidea> AlinuxOS: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/
[03:21] <purpleidea> unless you have a different architecture or distro, but you get the idea
[03:21] <Davey|Work> soundray, yeah, found something?
[03:21] <purpleidea> it's not that hard, just don't erase any data on your harddrive if you're not sure, backup before!
[03:22] <jordo23> Does Konqueror run slower under Gnome than it would under KDE?
[03:22] <AlinuxOS> purpleidea, thanks
[03:22] <purpleidea> AlinuxOS: welcome
[03:22] <soundray> Davey|Work, 'apt-get -qq --print-uris dist-upgrade > uris' creates a list of files that the upgrade would download. You could feed that to wget with options of your choice.
[03:23] <MetaMorfoziS> !directrendering
[03:23] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[03:23] <soundray> Davey|Work, and save the results in /var/cache/apt/archives, where normal apt-get would cache them anyway.
[03:23] <xsquared> does anyone know of a program that shows whether a wireless link is established (in the notification area of gnome)?
[03:24] <Meg5254> hi all
[03:24] <Meg5254> a question
[03:24] <xsquared> bah!
[03:24] <Meg5254> what program should I use when I want to rip a CD to mp3?
[03:25] <xsquared> when will we expect to see gnome 2.2 in ubuntu?
[03:25] <ulisse> Meg5254, sound juicer, grip, goobox...
[03:25] <xsquared> Meg5254, rip to ogg. its better.
[03:26] <Meg5254> I've heard that, but I need mp3
[03:26] <ulisse> xsquared, you're right, but some ha like car stereo won't play oggs
[03:26] <soundray> Meg5254, try k3b
[03:26] <ulisse> *hw
[03:26] <soundray> !info k3b
[03:26] <ubotu> k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3658 kB, Installed size: 7880 kB
[03:26] <Puff-n-Stuff> ogg is a better sound format than mp3...it sounds better to me and doesnt twist your hearing as badly as mp3...
[03:26] <Meg5254> k3b, isnt that only vor burning?
[03:26] <soundray> Meg5254, or, for a CLI try abcde
[03:26] <soundray> !info abcde
[03:26] <ubotu> abcde: (A Better CD Encoder), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.2.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[03:26] <xsquared> i don't care. i don't own a car. i own a pushbike
[03:26] <xsquared> bam!
[03:27] <beeswax> are there any recomended sources.list for breezy
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell beeswax about sources
[03:27] <ulisse> anybody playing Enemy Territory under Breezy with ATI drivers?
[03:28] <purpleidea> ubotu: tell purpleidea about sources
[03:28] <httpdss> is there any app to change meta info from pdf file ??
[03:28] <NET||abuse> ubuntu doesn't have an sshdaemon by default?
[03:28] <soundray> Meg5254, forget about k3b, I must have confused something.
[03:29] <yayo> or..for a rather nasty fix of the java problem..is there a freeride package (can't apt-cache search find one)
[03:29] <beeswax> !easysource
[03:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:29] <soundray> Meg5254, abcde is it.
[03:29] <pianoboy3333> Puff-n-Stuff: How do I do that/Can you give me a page to go to?
[03:29] <Puff-n-Stuff> NET||abuse, I always have to install sshd on my ubuntu installs manually.
[03:29] <NET||abuse> Puff-n-Stuff: you use openssh-server?
[03:29] <xsquared> ulisse, what made you get an ati card?
[03:29] <Puff-n-Stuff> pianoboy3333, I would start with a google search on cups.
[03:29] <Ng> NET||abuse: the policy is not to install any remote listening daemons by default
[03:29] <Puff-n-Stuff> NET||abuse, yes...  apt-get install openssh-server
[03:30] <ulisse> xsquared, I bought it before knowing linux...
[03:30] <pianoboy3333> kk
[03:30] <ulisse> my next card will surely be an nvidia
[03:30] <xsquared> ahh
[03:30] <Puff-n-Stuff> anything that lets someone come into your system from outside gives a place for hackers to attack, so by default its not there.
[03:30] <feistel> hi
[03:30] <NET||abuse> Puff-n-Stuff: thanks, Ng: fair point
[03:30] <xsquared> ulisse, how long have you been on linux?
[03:30] <soundray> ulisse, nvidia is no better or worse IMO.
[03:30] <feistel> how I can run again the first debconf?
[03:31] <Puff-n-Stuff> so, anyone else have a problem with i2o driven scsi controllers and breezy?  Im getting a lockup and kernel panic on boot and can find other posts around the web with the same problem but no solution except not to use breezy or not to use this card.
[03:32] <pilen> les is now known as finntroll<----- Fintntroll! awesome band :D
[03:32] <pilen> finntroll*
[03:32] <yanimax> is there an editor like gedit that can execute my .java scripts so that i can see immediately if it works or not ?
[03:32] <ulisse> xsquared, I'm on linux until about fedora core 1
[03:32] <ulisse> I think 3 years...
[03:32] <yanimax> else, i have got to compile it, and run it each time...
[03:33] <tafsen> When I play music from amaroK, I can't get sound from VLC. How can I fix this?
[03:33] <tatters_> I ma looking for a package which will go through all my music foldes find any files not mp3 and convert them as well as checking CCDB and changing tas if needed
[03:33] <ulisse> soundray, I think that nvidia drivers are better
[03:33] <dsl1096> hi
[03:34] <xsquared> soundray, the nvidia drivers are better
[03:34] <xsquared> nvidia fo' lyfe.
[03:34] <dsl1096> DSL worked fine, but ubuntu didn't
[03:34] <Kube> dabaR, you here?
[03:34] <alex_> will someone help me get java running in firefox?
[03:34] <armenb> hey
[03:34] <soundray> ulisse, xsquared, I had no end of trouble with nvidia on a laptop. Gave up twinview/xinerama/cloning in the end.
[03:35] <tafsen> alex_:  Search for java in ubuntu wiki
[03:35] <armenb> im having a problem with installing ubuntu on my machine
[03:35] <alex_> ok
[03:35] <Meg5254> ok, so I installed abcde
[03:35] <Meg5254> then startet it in the comand line
[03:35] <Meg5254> and I got: Grabbing entire CD - tracks: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
[03:35] <Meg5254> but nothing else happened
[03:35] <pianoboy3333> how do I find out what my computer name is?
[03:35] <pilen> how can i uninstall a program?
[03:35] <armenb> im installing over software raid
[03:35] <Ng> pilen: synaptic or sudo apt-get remove
[03:35] <Kube> pilen use Synaptic
[03:35] <_jason> pianoboy3333: hostname?
[03:35] <soundray> ulisse, xsquared: this meant that I had to keep Windows on the laptop for presentations :-o :-(
[03:35] <Meg5254> sorry if Im acting stupid, but Im new to this stuff
[03:36] <pianoboy3333> _jason: ok thx
[03:36] <Yagisan> I'm sure there are many gamers here, so can anyone recommend some nice rpg's in ubuntu ?
[03:36] <xsquared> soundray, bah. there would've been a way
[03:36] <soundray> Meg5254, to learn more about abcde, you can run man abcde
[03:36] <ulisse> soundray, I managed to work xinerama on my gf's pc at work and on my sister's laptop
[03:36] <Puff-n-Stuff> Yagisan, I like runescape myself.
[03:36] <armenb> however, since ubuntu install program didnt like my md0 md1 and md2, i needed to delete them and recreate them
[03:37] <soundray> I'm not one to give up easily. I could send you a list of config files I've tried, xsquared
[03:37] <Puff-n-Stuff> later all...will dig for my problem elsewhere...thanks.
[03:37] <armenb> however, i did *not* want to delete my md3, since that has important data.  so rather than installing on md0,1,2 again, it installed on md4,5,6.  where do i tell software raid to reuse the numbers 0,1,2?
[03:37] <soundray> Meg5254, is the machine you're running abcde on connected to the net?
[03:37] <pianoboy3333> AHHH! STUPID PRINTER!
[03:38] <xsquared> soundray, i don't own a projector, or a laptop, or the card you were trying it on
[03:38] <soundray> Meg5254, abcde will try to look up the name and titles on the CD on the net.
[03:38] <armenb> ive mounted the initrd image, but cant find mention of md4,5,6 anywhere. there's no /etc/raidtab (seems to have gone since the use of mdadm/raidtools2)
[03:38] <armenb> anyone?
[03:38] <xsquared> :P
[03:38] <nathanj> i half formatted my harddisk and now the partition table is corrupt how can i wip the drive and start again?
[03:39] <soundray> xsquared, :)  It was just to refute your "bah. there would've been a way"
[03:39] <Draconicus> Audacity needs libmp3lame.so. What package do I need to install to get this library?
[03:39] <xsquared> ;)
[03:39] <Yagisan> any other rpg recommendations ? (ideally in ubuntu)
[03:40] <xsquared> Draconicus, ogg is better
[03:40] <soundray> nathanj, boot a live CD and run gparted, or boot an installer CD and tell it to use the entire disk.
[03:40] <Draconicus> xsquared: splay doesn't play ogg.
[03:40] <xsquared> xmms does
[03:40] <Draconicus> xsquared: I need this for my ALARM.
[03:40] <xsquared> haha
[03:40] <xsquared> okay
[03:40] <xsquared> xmms has an alarm clock
[03:40] <nathanj> soundray: im trying to boot my ubunutu disk now
[03:40] <soundray> Draconicus, liblame0
[03:40] <Draconicus> xsquared: Stop giving me other options. I know what I need. Please tell me how to get it. I like audacity and I want it to work.
[03:41] <Draconicus> soundray: thanks for actually being helpful. :)
[03:41] <xsquared> im telling you ogg is better
[03:41] <tatters_> I ma looking for a package which will go through all my music foldes find any files not mp3 and convert them as well as checking CCDB and changing tas if needed
[03:41] <xsquared> i feel like a debian user already
[03:41] <soundray> xsquared, you are getting carried away! Draconicus, ogg is better btw, did you know? :)
[03:42] <Yagisan> xsquared: we know ogg is better, but he needs/wants mp3
[03:42] <Draconicus> soundray: Yes, I know. I use CRON for my alarm.
[03:42] <_with_a_y> anyone know about self-signed ssl certs?
[03:42] <xsquared> CRON?
[03:42] <pilen> anyone has tried to install the java looking glass?
[03:42] <unperson> I'm having a problem with a flash card.  I plugged my flashcard into the reader several times over the weekend and was reading and writing beautifully.  I plugged it in this morning, and when I tried to write to it, it said I did not have permission.  I have not changed anything, however.
[03:42] <xsquared> this is like an alarm clock to wake you up in the morning right?
[03:42] <tatters_> elf signed cerst i dabblled?
[03:42] <soundray> Draconicus, and you can't make cron play an ogg file?
[03:43] <tatters_> lol elf signed certs sry I mean self
[03:43] <unperson> The directory it's mounted to has correct permissions for me to write to it, but if I look in /etc/mtab I see it's mounted read only.
[03:43] <oklinux> what is the easiest way to set up a soundcard sis si7012 ?
[03:43] <Draconicus> soundray: name a command line ogg player that works, and I can.
[03:43] <soundray> Draconicus, ogg123
[03:43] <xsquared> haha
[03:43] <xsquared> pwnd.
[03:43] <xsquared> <3 ogg123
[03:43] <_with_a_y> tatters_: i've dabbled, too, but i've always been confused about one thing....
[03:43] <Draconicus> soundray: Please note that mpg123 didn't work. If this didn't, I'll be angry.
[03:43] <Draconicus> doesn't*
[03:43] <tatters_> what?
[03:44] <unperson> Using sudo, I tried to umount it and then mount -w (read-write), but I get this error:  "mount: block device /dev/sdc1 is write-protected but explicit `-w' flag given"
[03:44] <tatters_> I am always confused about evrything :P
[03:44] <unperson> How do I fix this?
[03:44] <soundray> Draconicus, I'm very, very worried about you getting angry with me. Please stick with mp3 if you perceive this as the lower risk.
[03:44] <_with_a_y> let's say i have a machine named server1.example.com and in my dns config i have a couple of cname records pointing to server1.  like imap.example.com, smtp.example.com, etc.....
[03:45] <lucas_> hey!
[03:45] <tatters_> so what to use for common?
[03:45] <tatters_> common name
[03:45] <Draconicus> soundray: I wasn't threatening you. Don't be an jerk about this, please. I just want stuff to work, and it's not working. Okay?
[03:45] <_with_a_y> do i make certs for all of the cnames or do i just make one for server1.example.com?
[03:45] <lucas_> ive got a problem after i login the Metacity_Windows_manager needs more than 5minutes to load
[03:46] <lucas_> anyone know this problem?
[03:46] <soundray> Draconicus, sorry, I should have added a couple of smilies. I'll stop pulling your leg now.
[03:46] <oklinux> any one here is a sound gurumaster ?
[03:46] <xsquared> heh. no-one finds anything funny anymore
[03:46] <IdleOne> lucas_:  your machine is a little old?
[03:46] <lucas_> no
[03:46] <lucas_> its a 2.66 GHz
[03:47] <soundray> Draconicus, when you try ogg123, be sure you give it a sensible output device using the -d option.
[03:47] <lucas_> 1024 MB DDR Ram
[03:47] <tatters_> well i am only guessing here but if you dont create a cert for each domain then  I would think it will will say cert does not match site for end user
[03:48] <IdleOne> lucas_:  you might want to try fluxbox or xfce they are light window manafgers will run alot quicker but look different then gnome
[03:48] <ulisse> Draconicus, you could try to play oggs with mplayer
[03:48] <tatters_> good Q though be interested to knoe
[03:48] <lucas_> IdleOne it works yesterday
[03:48] <Draconicus> soundray: it works fine as-is.
[03:48] <IdleOne> lucaas:  did you install and remove alot of apps?
[03:48] <lucas_> IdleOne yes
[03:48] <_with_a_y> tatters_: thanks.
[03:49] <ulisse> Draconicus, remember me the original problem, please
[03:49] <soundray> Draconicus, phew, I'm glad ;)
[03:49] <tatters_> have you tried it yet or your in planning stage?
[03:49] <IdleOne> lucas_:  do sudo apt-get update
[03:49] <unperson> No clues on what's going on with my flash card I take it?
[03:49] <Draconicus> ulisse: audacity can't export as mp3 because of a missing libmp3lame.so
[03:49] <soundray> Draconicus, you *may* still need -d when you run it from cron.
[03:50] <ulisse> Draconicus, I use audacity and I export mp3 too, let me have a look!
[03:50] <_with_a_y> tried some things.  planning for most, though.  it's just something that i've always been confused about cuz some places say "FQDN" yet others just say "full DNS name".
[03:51] <lucas_> Idle ive done i will reboot now and look if it is wokring now
[03:51] <soundray> Thanks xsquared, that was nice.
[03:51] <tatters_>  #apache channel your best for a reliable answer
[03:51] <xsquared> :-)
[03:51] <ulisse> Draconicus, are you sure that libmp3lame.so isn't already in your system?
[03:52] <tatters_> yeh its world of confusion at times I am just getting to grips with all this meself
[03:52] <_with_a_y> true.  i just didn't want to be scoffed at in there for being such a newb.  :)
[03:52] <xsquared> ulisse, hes using ogg now
[03:52] <Draconicus> ulisse: Lemme do a search.
[03:52] <xsquared> ive converted him
[03:52] <ulisse> Draconicus, /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so
[03:53] <soundray> Draconicus, ulisse, liblame0 is in multiverse
[03:53] <Draconicus> ulisse: Oh! I have it. It's just blind. :P
[03:53] <ulisse> Draconicus, all you have to do is to give the correct path to Audacity
[03:53] <tatters_> oh I wouldnt worry about that  no one more noob than me,
[03:54] <soundray> xsquared, YOU converted him? I'd like to think I had a part in it.
[03:54] <soundray> xsquared, just to make sure you know who gets the place in heaven :)
[03:54] <xsquared> actually, you did most of the work lol
[03:54] <xsquared> i suggested it at the start though :P
[03:54] <ulisse> soundray, xsquared , I think that Draconicus isn't converted at all...
[03:55] <xsquared> ulisse, he better start converting
[03:55] <soundray> xsquared, ulisse :( So much for going to heaven.
[03:55] <IdleOne> xsquared:  and soundray  Mother theresa never asked for recognition but she still helped :P
[03:55] <lucas_> IdleOne the problem is there again
[03:55] <tatters_> last few days I have had a xammp setup then a manual apache-ssl and now a apache2 setup
[03:55] <lucas_> Idleone but i think it is because of my iPod
[03:56] <ulisse> xsquared, soundray, free software means free choiches too ;-)
[03:56] <IdleOne> lucaas:  the Ipod connected when you boot up?
[03:56] <IdleOne> lucas_:
[03:56] <xsquared> ulisse, mp3 isn't free
[03:56] <xsquared> ulisse, its patented or whatever
[03:56] <lucas_> IdleOne yes
[03:57] <soundray> IdleOne, Mother Theresa isn't actually my role model, for various reasons. I *live* for recognition, and I stand by it. But I'll stop this now. Meet me in #ubuntu-offtopic if any continuation is desired.
[03:57] <alex_> how do i get mpg and avi movies to play on totem?
[03:57] <ulisse> xsquared, but is even better to play mp3s on linux than on windows ;-)
[03:57] <xsquared> when ogg is smaller, better quality, and under the bsd liscense, why not go for it?
[03:57] <IdleOne> lucas_:  try booting without it plugged in
[03:57] <xsquared> sif.
[03:57] <ulisse> alex_, you should play matroska (right xsquared ?)
[03:57] <xsquared> yes
[03:57] <alex_> ? install motroska
[03:57] <mqueiros> anyone has tried to install acrobat reader 7.0 in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[03:57] <ulisse> alex_, sorry, it was a joke...
[03:57] <lucas_> IdleOne yeah i will try later
[03:58] <alex_> ok.
[03:58] <IdleOne> soundray:  all I meant was that helping is the reward. doesnt matter who gets the credit as long as you know who who did it ()
[03:58] <soundray> xsquared, have you tried buying a portable player recently that supports OGG and works as a USB mass storage device?
[03:58] <lucas_> IdleOne: i think its because of the Fat32 partition on the iPod
[03:58] <xsquared> soundray, sure have
[03:58] <ulisse> alex_, I use mplayer to play that videos, but it isn't really the better choice
[03:58] <IdleOne> lucas_:  I dont have an Ipod so I cant be sure
[03:58] <alex_> ok
[03:58] <xsquared> soundray, Xclef HD500 / HD800
[03:58] <soundray> IdleOne, I am definitely different that way... :)
[03:59] <xsquared> mine has a 100gb drive full of beautiful oggs
[03:59] <oklinux> the damn tree in desktopbsd is in the way I think I cant pass through it thma
[03:59] <IdleOne> soundray:  thats why we are all here because we are different ()
[03:59] <alex_> im apt-getting mplayer now.
[03:59] <beeswax> anyone has this archos av400? there's rockOS as rewritten firmware for these players, anybody got that running?
[03:59] <ulisse> alex_, you should also download some codecs
[03:59] <xsquared> soundray, if OGG was female, i'd do her.
[03:59] <alex_> right
[04:00] <alex_> lemme make sure all the repositories are checked
[04:00] <jimcooncat> want to set up a private chat for my customers, what's best way to go? irc channel on oftc.net, irc server on home machine, jabberd?
[04:00] <bina> is there something for linux like ActiveSync that I would be able to use to sync an Axim-X51 with?
[04:01] <soundray> xsquared, interesting. I was looking for a player with flash memory for my wife. It was nearly impossible, until I found Maxfield.
[04:01] <alex_> what is the command to get the codecs?
[04:01] <ulisse> alex_, there is an howto to get compiled the latest mplayer with all codecs, lemme see if I can find it...
[04:01] <soundray> xsquared, there is a plot underway to remove USB mass storage supporting players from the market. At least that's my theory.
[04:01] <alex_> k
[04:01] <IdleOne> jimcooncat:  you could setup a irc server at home. or just register a channel on freenode
[04:02] <xsquared> soundray, i think you might be right
[04:02] <xsquared> but i will never buy a player without ogg playback
[04:02] <ulisse> alex_, here it is: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78037
[04:02] <alex_> thx
[04:02] <xsquared> or if i can hack the firmware to do it
[04:02] <oklinux> any one here good with sound card configuration ?
[04:03] <xsquared> oklinux, what are you trying to do oklinux?
[04:03] <lucas_> where can i download the mp3 codec for amarok?
[04:03] <IdleOne> !w32codecs
[04:03] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:03] <xsquared> lucas_, ogg is better
[04:03] <theD3viL> lucas_: probbably gstreamer-mad
[04:03] <xsquared> LOL!
[04:03] <oklinux> xsqrared try to set up sis  si 7012 sound card
[04:04] <jimcooncat> IdleOne: just wondering how the simplest way to go would be, not very well versed with irc yet
[04:04] <Daniel_Perez> hi, im having some trouble with apache2 and a module
[04:04] <xsquared> oklinux, is it automatically detected?
[04:05] <IdleOne> jimcooncat:  then registering a channel on this network would be easiest type /msg chanserv help
[04:05] <Daniel_Perez> ive apt-get installed libapache2-svn in my apache2
[04:05] <jimcooncat> would my chat get pounded by outsiders?
[04:05] <Daniel_Perez> on ubuntu. but im getting this error
[04:05] <oklinux> yes when I run alsamixer it shown on term but no sound xsquared
[04:05] <purpleidea> any one know how to check % of drive space free via cmd line?
[04:05] <mads-> Hey
[04:05] <IdleOne> jimcooncat:  you can set it to invite only
[04:05] <Daniel_Perez> Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load:
[04:05] <Daniel_Perez> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so: undefined symbol: s *_repos__fs_revision_proplist
[04:05] <jimcooncat> sounds good, thanks IdleOne
[04:05] <xsquared> oklinux, have you got all the connections right?
[04:05] <IdleOne> jimcooncat:  np
[04:06] <ulisse> xsquared, suggest me a not-too-expensive nvidia card that works good under linux
[04:06] <xsquared> ulisse, nvidia 6600gt
[04:06] <ulisse> xsquared, is it agp or pci-xpress?
[04:06] <xsquared> ulisse, both
[04:06] <mads-> I have just tried to install ubuntu.. But somehow it tells me that my disc is corrupt.. This is the third time I burned a cd which I checked the MD5SUM of.. Help me..? =/
[04:07] <renewip> Hi, how can I remote my Ubuntu with Graphic mode. I mean I can remote my PC via SSH (Putty in windows) but it's text mode (just console).
[04:07] <xsquared> ulisse, you can choose, but pci-express is your best bet
[04:07] <xsquared> renewip, its called VNC
[04:07] <soundray> renewip, look into vnc (apt-cache search vnc) and freenx
[04:07] <raghu> mads-, did u burnt as image?
[04:07] <dyrne> renewip: i prefer freenx either will work
[04:07] <mads-> Nope..
[04:08] <mads-> I choose language, keyboard language etc..
[04:08] <ulisse> xsquared, I'll have to buy a new mobo too, in that case I'll buy a new machine at all :-)
[04:08] <raghu> mads-, how did u burnt then?
[04:08] <mads-> But when it starts copying the things over to the computer, to install base system it tells me the CD is fucked =/
[04:08] <xsquared> ulisse, i just got a new machine
[04:08] <soundray> renewip, you can also do ssh -X remotehost and run X apps remotely with local graphical output. But it's slow.
[04:08] <xsquared> ulisse, its so sexy running ubuntu
[04:08] <xsquared> if it was female, i'd to her
[04:08] <oklinux> yes xsquare when I install an pci sound card sound play fine but with onboard sound card no sound
[04:08] <xsquared> do *
[04:08] <mads-> raghu : Burned it normal...
[04:09] <raghu> mads-, using same CD all the three times?
[04:09] <Daniel_Perez> any ideas about this error anyone?
[04:09] <ulisse> xsquared, I know, I just ubuntized some friends with new shiny machines...
[04:09] <Daniel_Perez> they sent me here from #apache
[04:09] <mads-> raghu : Same kind of cd.. Not THE SAME cd..
[04:09] <mads-> Can that be the solution..?
[04:09] <Daniel_Perez> Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load:
[04:09] <xsquared> oklinux, is a multimedia controller listed?
[04:09] <Daniel_Perez> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so: undefined symbol: s *_repos__fs_revision_proplist
[04:09] <xsquared> oklinux, type lspci at the console
[04:10] <raghu> mads-, burn as iso image if not iso may be corrupted
[04:10] <raghu> mads-, while coping
[04:10] <mads-> Can you boot with an iso image..? =/
[04:10] <oklinux> Im using the onboard sound now x
[04:11] <oklinux> xsquared
[04:11] <xsquared> oklinux, okay, thats great
[04:11] <renewip> soundray, but I want remote from Windows PC
[04:11] <mads-> Should I just try a different brand of CD?
[04:11] <beeswax> mads-: if it's an iso of a bootable cd, yes.
[04:11] <oklinux> do you still want me to do lspci ?
[04:11] <xsquared> renewip, dude... install a VNC server on your ubuntu box
[04:12] <beeswax> no need for diff brand
[04:12] <xsquared> renewip, then download and install tightvnc on your windows box
[04:12] <beeswax> where did you get the iso from?
[04:12] <renlore> is there a shell command to make a beep sound or any kinda sound?
[04:12] <xsquared> renewip, connect to it.. and... BAM!
[04:12] <xsquared> render, amen.
[04:12] <dyrne> ubotu: tell renewip about freenx
[04:13] <mads-> beeswax : That means that if I just the image down to CD it will boot...?
[04:13] <renewip> sorry, my PC is AMD64 bit
[04:13] <mads-> I don't have to "unpack" it as I burn it...
[04:13] <renewip> FreeNX is not compiled for it
[04:14] <hypa7ia> anyone know about running sftp from windows to ubuntu... i found a hint that i may need to comment out "PasswordAuthenticaton no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, but that doesn't seem to make things work
[04:14] <xsquared> renewip, sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[04:14] <beeswax> mads-: nope. if in your burn-prog there's a box to "make cd  bootable" tick it. bu normally there's no need for it. you don't have to unpack it, the burnprog will recognize it
[04:14] <beeswax> r u burning under win?
[04:14] <mads-> Yeah, and then it will "unpack" it by itself right..?
[04:14] <raghu> hypa7ia, use winscp fo windows it is easy
[04:14] <mads-> I have been doing that..?
[04:15] <mads-> I burn with NERO in Windows..
[04:15] <alex_> um
[04:15] <mads-> It's first when it comes into the other computer it kinda fucks...
[04:15] <alex_> on the mplayer
[04:15] <xsquared> mads-, omgwtf Nero?
[04:15] <beeswax> so you just selected the blah.iso image and clicked burn in nero?
[04:15] <mustard5> beeswax, I'm not sure whether ticking the 'make cd bootable' is the right way to go
[04:15] <hypa7ia> raghu: i need sftp, not scp alas, to make backups off windows work
[04:15] <beeswax> in win it is, i guess
[04:15] <alex_> on the mplayer howto page, the download patch link is dead.
[04:15] <raghu> hypa7ia, winscp has that option download and check
[04:16] <mads-> xsquared, what's wrong with NERO..?
[04:16] <IdleOne> nothing
[04:16] <xsquared> mads-, everything.
[04:16] <IdleOne> mads-:  make sure you click burn iso
[04:16] <alex_> can someone help me?
[04:16] <xsquared> mads-, its a bloated piece of spyware full of shit
[04:16] <alex_> ...
[04:16] <beeswax> anyway, it's bootable already as mads- said the install stops when files start copying. so he can boot it before...
[04:16] <raghu> mads-, in nero you have to chhose diskmage while burning
[04:16] <Daniel_Perez> anyone, can please help me about this issue?
[04:17] <Daniel_Perez> Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load:
[04:17] <Daniel_Perez> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so: undefined symbol: s *_repos__fs_revision_proplist
[04:17] <xsquared> alex_, google for a different location for the patch
[04:17] <Daniel_Perez> or if you dont know please direct me to the right channel
[04:17] <xsquared> Daniel_Perez, install apache1 if you don't need apache2
[04:17] <xsquared> apache 2 is a bitch
[04:17] <Daniel_Perez> i need apache2
[04:17] <Daniel_Perez> :S
[04:17] <xsquared> why apache2?
[04:18] <rambo3> becouse 2 >1
[04:18] <raghu> Daniel_Perez, have installed svn module?
[04:18] <beeswax> *g*
[04:18] <trappist> Daniel_Perez: you installed apache and the mod_dav_svn module from ubuntu repositories?
[04:18] <xsquared> not in this situation.
[04:18] <ubuntu_user`> what is the default root password for ubuntu dapper drake flight cd 4?
[04:18] <trappist> ubuntu_user`: there is none
[04:18] <Daniel_Perez> i did install apache2 first and then this one libapache2-svn
[04:18] <trappist> ubuntu_user`: just use sudo
[04:19] <christian> im trying to install opera with "sudo apt get install"
[04:19] <Daniel_Perez> installs ok but i get that error when restarting the webserver
[04:19] <ubuntu_user`> trappist: it asks for password
[04:19] <Daniel_Perez> (after installing libapache2-svn)
[04:19] <christian> but i cant type in the password
[04:19] <xsquared> christian, firefox is better than opera anyway
[04:19] <christian> memory hog :0
[04:19] <mustard5> christian, the keypresses are just not visible..its still being entered though
[04:19] <xsquared> sif.
[04:19] <Daniel_Perez> that was for raghu , trappist
[04:19] <IdleOne> ubuntu_user`:  when it ask for password you enter your user password
[04:19] <beeswax> chris: pw is your the pw assigned to your user-account.
[04:20] <beeswax> yep.
[04:20] <ubuntu_user`> IdleOne: 10x
[04:20] <christian> type the password then press enter??
[04:20] <beeswax> .
[04:20] <mustard5> christian, correct
[04:20] <christian> cause i cant see the **** for the psswrd
[04:20] <xsquared> christian, use ephiany then
[04:20] <Yango> I can't make the .cvsignore file work, it is ignored by cvs :) what can I be doing wrong?
[04:20] <IdleOne> you wont
[04:20] <xsquared> or whatever its called
[04:20] <mustard5> christian, there are no asterisks in terminal for the password
[04:20] <mustard5> christian, its completely hidden
[04:20] <christian> can i get that through synatic?
[04:20] <beeswax> yep.
[04:20] <raghu> Daniel_Perez, look at #apache
[04:20] <Daniel_Perez> they sent me here :S
[04:21] <mustard5> Daniel_Perez, hehe
[04:21] <xsquared> Daniel_Perez, haha. losers.
[04:21] <christian> command not found?
[04:21] <hypa7ia> raghu: unfortunately, winscp doesn't do the weird batch backups of multiple directories that i need to do.  i'm having the same problem as in this thread, but the soluiton posted there didn't fix things for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9908
[04:21] <xsquared> arragh
[04:21] <xsquared> frustrating
[04:21] <mustard5> christian, what is the command you are entering?
[04:21] <IdleOne> christian:  what command?
[04:21] <oklinux> xsquared can you help me ?
[04:21] <xsquared> too late for this
[04:21] <xsquared> oklinux, with what?
[04:21] <beeswax> is wine like cross-over office? or even better?
[04:21] <christian> suod apt get --install "program"
[04:21] <xsquared> beeswax, wine is free
[04:22] <IdleOne> christian:  sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:22] <beeswax> i kno that, but is it good?
[04:22] <xsquared> yes
[04:22] <beeswax> photoshop cs workin on it?
[04:22] <xsquared> of course
[04:22] <beeswax> :D
[04:22] <xsquared> LOL!
[04:22] <beeswax> thx!
[04:22] <xsquared> NP!
[04:22] <DigitalLF> if i want to dualboot winxp pro and ubuntu wich one should i install first?
[04:22] <IdleOne> XP
[04:22] <xsquared> winxp pro
[04:23] <IdleOne> !tell DigitalLF  about dualboot
[04:23] <mustard5> !opera
[04:23] <ubotu> opera is probably not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[04:23] <xsquared> otherwise it will fuck with the mbr
[04:23] <xsquared> oklinux, hello?
[04:23] <beeswax> uboto: tell beeswax about repositories
[04:23] <christian> already d/l it
[04:23] <christian> in .deb
[04:23] <DigitalLF> thank you everyone
[04:23] <xsquared> christian, then dpkg -i <packagelocation.deb>
[04:23] <mustard5> christian, ok..so you need to use dpkg to install a .deb locally
[04:23] <IdleOne> chr1z:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:23] <beeswax> ubotu: tell beeswax about repositories
[04:24] <DigitalLF> another question is i got a brand new dell inspiron 9400 is there anything more then the broadcomm that will be a problem?
[04:24] <IdleOne> !broadcom
[04:24] <ubotu> broadcom is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[04:24] <oklinux> xsquared sound isssue
[04:24] <xsquared> !tell me about sex
[04:24] <xsquared> oklinux, still doesn't work?
[04:24] <IdleOne> DigitalLF:  if there is come back and somebody will help you ()
[04:25] <mustard5> DigitalLF, you ever have a problem with gnome not loading with that laptop?
[04:25] <christian> poeple keep on telling my different commands......?
[04:25] <xsquared> oklinux, did it list a multimedia controller in the lspci?
[04:25] <xsquared> christian, they are the same commands
[04:25] <beeswax> !easysource
[04:25] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:25] <IdleOne> christian: where is the package downloaded to?
[04:25] <xsquared> wtf
[04:25] <christian> desktop
[04:25] <xsquared> easy source?
[04:25] <xsquared> haha
[04:25] <IdleOne> christian:  cd Desktop
[04:25] <DigitalLF> mustard5 i got the laptop to day so i dont know
[04:25] <christian> how does terminal know where the file is to install
[04:26] <xsquared> no non on ton ton
[04:26] <oklinux> xsquared sound work what did you do ? lspci ?
[04:26] <IdleOne> christian:  sudo dpkg -i packegename.deb
[04:26] <christian> when doind suod install
[04:26] <LaptopZZ`> has anyone been able to use xgl in dappers with vncserver?
[04:26] <LaptopZZ`> err xorg 7.0 rather
[04:26] <christian> it automatically know where to search for file?
[04:26] <mustard5> DigitalLF, k...chatted with a guy today who was having issue with a dell inspiron on installation...kept hanging before gdm login
[04:26] <xsquared> christian, sudo dpkg -i opera.deb
[04:26] <IdleOne> christian:  yes
[04:26] <xsquared> christian, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/opera.deb
[04:26] <xsquared> or whatever opera.deb is
[04:26] <DigitalLF> mustard5 okey i will give it a try
[04:26] <mustard5> DigitalLF, ah..actuallly it was when he tried to install smp kernel...
[04:26] <xsquared> oklinux, no
[04:27] <mustard5> DigitalLF, I think he had dual processors or something
[04:27] <christian> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:27] <xsquared> oklinux, type in lspci and tell me whether is shows a multimedia controller
[04:27] <christian> what is that?
[04:27] <IdleOne> christian:  close synamtic
[04:27] <oklinux> yes 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound  Controller (rev a0)
[04:27] <oklinux>  squared
[04:27] <xsquared> christian, that means something is using apt
[04:27] <DigitalLF> mustard5 same as me there was a thing in the forum about that there was a new kernel that fixed that
[04:27] <xsquared> i see
[04:27] <christian> oh...im trying to isntall mozilla
[04:27] <mustard5> DigitalLF, really? he would be keen to know about that :)
[04:28] <xsquared> christian, you'll have to wait till it finishes
[04:28] <IdleOne> christian:  one program at a time ()
[04:28] <xsquared> LOL!
[04:28] <acidic32> hi i cant seem to get ubuntu to show 1024x768
[04:28] <christian> lol
[04:28] <acidic32> its running 640x480
[04:28] <mustard5> DigitalLF, I think he was running Dapper as well
[04:28] <xsquared> oklinux, sorry, i can't really help you now
[04:28] <acidic32> i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <christian>  sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/opera_8.52-20060201.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[04:28] <xsquared> im going to fall asleep
[04:28] <acidic32> but still no luck
[04:28] <acidic32> what do i do?
[04:28] <oklinux> I got sound so it working xsquared thanks
[04:29] <christian> this is what i will type?
[04:29] <IdleOne> christian:  yes
[04:29] <mustard5> christian, looks pretty good
[04:29] <xsquared> oklinux, thats okay, anytime
[04:29] <dyrne> acidic32: you set horizontal and vert settings?
[04:29] <xsquared> christian, then go to the closest windows box and type in format C:
[04:29] <xsquared> LOLZ
[04:29] <hypa7ia> so no-one knows why else sftp serving would not be working in ubu?
[04:29] <DigitalLF> mustard5 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129648&highlight=Inspiron+9400
[04:30] <christian> already did got rid of win98 on this machine.... lol
[04:30] <mustard5> DigitalLF, thanks!
[04:30] <acidic32> i dont know my horizontal and verticatal settings
[04:30] <acidic32> where do i find them?
[04:30] <vitriol> anybody know how to setup a network printer?
[04:30] <DigitalLF> mustard5 well i have to go now so see you all later thank you
[04:30] <xsquared> so many questions
[04:30] <xsquared> www.google.com
[04:30] <xsquared> <3
[04:30] <dyrne> acidic32: google or manual about your only choice if you dont want to guess
[04:30] <christian> how i set universal binary?
[04:30] <mustard5> DigitalLF, k
[04:30] <vitriol> my printer works great under ubuntu (i didn't have to do anything, it just worked) but i want to be able to use it as a network printer under windows machines
[04:30] <christian> so i get apt get program
[04:30] <IdleOne> !repositories
[04:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:31] <IdleOne> follow that link
[04:31] <acidic32> ima go find the manual
[04:31] <acidic32> for the monitor
[04:31] <dyrne> acidic32: after you find it sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf locate the settings and change them
[04:31] <christian> its reading the database...installing opera
[04:32] <christian> it says dependancy problem leaving unconfigured
[04:32] <IdleOne> christian:  it reads the database so it can check for any dependent packages opera may need
[04:32] <christian> :(
[04:32] <IdleOne> christian:  go to  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:32] <IdleOne> add the repos
[04:33] <IdleOne> christian:  then you will do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:34] <mustard5> IdleOne, dist-upgrade?
[04:34] <am3r1ca> HELP i installed my Audigy SE sound card, but only 2 speaker work with XMMS
[04:34] <acidic32> right got the manual
[04:34] <am3r1ca> how do i get all working
[04:34] <IdleOne> yeah he will get the new kernel
[04:34] <IdleOne> and any other updates
[04:34] <christian> cant view link need psm
[04:34] <cavedive1> Hi. installed Dapper flight 4 and activated Xgl and compis. Worked great until some hours ago. gnome-window-decorator went missing and I now have no window borders.
[04:34] <IdleOne> after that he can try installing opera
[04:34] <cavedive1> Is it another programming running this now ?
[04:35] <am3r1ca> HELP i installed my Audigy SE sound card, but only 2 speaker work with XMMS
[04:35] <w000t> why is nautilus in dapper compiled without beagle integration?
[04:35] <IdleOne> christian:  cant view link?
[04:35] <christian> yea
[04:35] <christian> need psm to view
[04:36] <IdleOne> wth is psm
[04:36] <hyperactivecrond> !psm
[04:36] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:36] <christian> dunno
[04:37] <IdleOne> christian:  sorry dude but you got me :/
[04:38] <am3r1ca> in windows theres the EAX system to use 7.1 sound, what do i do here to but the sound card, Audigy 7.1 SE, working right ???
[04:38] <christian> tried to install epiphany  but have unmet dependacy
[04:39] <mustard5> am3r1ca, I would imagine you use alsamixer-gui or gnome-alsamixer
[04:39] <mustard5> am3r1ca, I can't remember the exact package names
[04:39] <IdleOne> christian:  ummm reinstall ubuntu then add repositories then install FIREFOX1.5 because its better the opra
[04:39] <christian> persoanl security manager?
[04:40] <am3r1ca> mustard5 in the alsmixer controls the speakers appear and all have the volume at 100
[04:40] <christian> i cant view any ubuntu pages?
[04:40] <Pablo> I have a compact flash reader in my pcmcia slot and I can seem to mount it... can someone please help me to get this work?
[04:40] <Pablo> to*
[04:40] <mustard5> am3r1ca, I don't know much more than that
[04:40] <christian> i just updated what if i reboot?
[04:40] <IdleOne> christian:  try it
[04:40] <am3r1ca> i installed the ca106 or something driver into tha alsa database just for the soundcard to work
[04:40] <ploum> Hello. I have a matroska mkv file here but mplayer will only play the first chapter. Any idea on how read others ? Another player available on Ubuntu ?
[04:40] <christian> l8r
[04:41] <am3r1ca> mustard5 ok thanks anyway
[04:41] <hyperactivecrond> !tell ploum about dvd
[04:41] <furntree> hi can someone help me install XMMS?
[04:41] <eobanb> furntree, sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:41] <hyperactivecrond> furntree: what do you need?
[04:41] <IdleOne> !xmms
[04:41] <jimcooncat> !tell me about xchat
[04:41] <ubotu> xmms is, like, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[04:41] <hyperactivecrond> and which version
[04:41] <Pablo> I have a compact flash reader in my pcmcia slot and I can seem to mount it... can someone please help me to get this to work?
[04:41] <ploum> hyperactivecrond: I'm not speaking about DVD but about a matroska file
[04:41] <hyperactivecrond> ah
[04:41] <hyperactivecrond> apologies
[04:41] <furntree> ok thanks
[04:41] <ploum> no problem
[04:41] <furntree> the tarball wasnt working
[04:41] <Pablo> I have a compact flash reader in my pcmcia slot and I cant seem to mount it... can someone please help me to get this to work?
[04:41] <Pablo> there finally
[04:42] <Pablo> that is right
[04:42] <tatters_> Iam looking for a package which will go through all my music foldes find any files not mp3 and convert them as well as checking CCDB and changing tags if neede,,anyone got any recommendations?d
[04:42] <robinl1> I'm scared
[04:42] <am3r1ca> eoband i have xmms but i can make it work on all speakers
[04:42] <am3r1ca> ubotu eSound doesn appear
[04:42] <ubotu> am3r1ca: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:43] <mustard5> robinl1, don't be scared. :)
[04:43] <am3r1ca> ok
[04:43] <Pablo> gj ubotu
[04:43] <robinl1> well why not?
[04:43] <robinl1> i've been attacked by many stuff and i'm almost gonna fain
[04:43] <robinl1> t
[04:43] <robinl1> so yea
[04:43] <robinl1> why not be scared? :(
[04:43] <annex> Hey, I just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy.  Currently my nvidia Geforce 2 GTS card does not work anymore.  I removed my old drivers and installed the legacy drivers but when trying to load X the log file reports "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!".  Any ideas?  I thought changing the to legacy driver would fix things.
[04:44] <IdleOne> !nvidia
[04:44] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:44] <annex> IdleOne: I'll take a look...
[04:44] <Unity> Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing. <-- does anyone know why i get that problem in totem but not in xmms?
[04:44] <Kyral> Because Totem sucks?
[04:44] <ideafix> !ati
[04:44] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:44] <am3r1ca> try other input plugin
[04:45] <ideafix> !flight
[04:45] <ubotu> ideafix: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:45] <Pablo> can someone help me mount this cf?
[04:45] <Pablo> [4294837.135000]  Probing IDE interface ide0...
[04:45] <Pablo> [4294837.399000]  hda: TOSHIBA THNCF128MMG, CFA DISK drive
[04:45] <Pablo> [4294838.011000]  ide0 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 3
[04:45] <Pablo> [4294838.012000]  ide-cs: hda: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0
[04:45] <Pablo> [4295022.393000]  ibm_acpi: ec object not found
[04:45] <hyperactivecrond> !tell pablo about pastebin
[04:45] <ideafix> why isnt flight in the bot ?
[04:45] <dyrne> annex: i never got legacy driver to work from breezy repo on my k7 kernel you might search ubuntu.forums.org for the latest nvidia howto
[04:45] <hyperactivecrond> ideafix: /topic
[04:45] <hyperactivecrond> oops nvm
[04:45] <dyrne> annex: i ended up just using installer fro nvidia site
[04:46] <hyperactivecrond> nvidia-glx worked for me
[04:46] <ideafix> whats the topic got to do with it ?
[04:46] <IdleOne> !flight4
[04:46] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[04:46] <ideafix> theres no mention to flight in the topic
[04:46] <Yango> how do I set UTF-8 encoding in my terminals?
[04:46] <Yango> !UTF-8
[04:46] <ubotu> Yango: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:46] <annex> dyrne: hrmm, I'm using a k7 kernel as well
[04:46] <hyperactivecrond> hence the oops
[04:46] <Yango> !i18n
[04:46] <ubotu> Yango: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:46] <eobanb> !unicode
[04:46] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eobanb
[04:47] <annex> hyperactivecrond: using a k7 kernel?
[04:47] <Yango> darn
[04:47] <eobanb> Yango, what terminal programme
[04:47] <Yango> Konosole
[04:47] <hyperactivecrond> ah.. no
[04:47] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen installing flight from the live cd aka expresso and from the regular instal cd ?
[04:47] <Yango> but I want it to be the default encoding for all my system
[04:47] <Yango> not only konsoel
[04:47] <dyrne> annex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia worked for me
[04:47] <a2xm> hi... i'm looking the "document root" in ubuntu. anyone knows where's it?
[04:48] <Yango> /var/www
[04:48] <G0SUB> a2xm /var/www/htdocs
[04:48] <annex> dyrne: using the nvidia installer?
[04:49] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen installing flight from the live cd aka expresso and from the regular instal cd ?
[04:49] <lucaas> can anything else than realplayer play .rm videos?
[04:49] <randabis> grr
[04:49] <Yango> lucaas, besides helix player and real player you mean?
[04:49] <randabis> ndiswrapper is being mean hehe
[04:49] <dyrne> annex: yes
[04:49] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen installing flight from the live cd aka expresso and from the regular instal cd ?
[04:49] <lucaas> :o
[04:50] <mustard5> !repeat
[04:50] <ubotu> somebody said repeat was Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[04:50] <lucaas> Yango, mplayer worked with w32codecs :>
[04:50] <IdleOne> ideafix:  I would guess its a different method
[04:50] <a2xm> G0SUB, there's no htdocs in my /var/www/
[04:50] <ideafix> iv guessed that much
[04:50] <G0SUB> a2xm /var/www then
[04:50] <ubuntu> is there anyway i can format my windows partition from within the ubuntu GUI
[04:50] <Yango> vinko@fenix:~/cursor/SCI/sitio$ grep DocumentRoot /etc/apache2/ -r
[04:50] <Yango> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default:   DocumentRoot /var/www/
[04:50] <Yango> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: DocumentRoot /var/www/
[04:50] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[04:50] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:51] <Yango> a2xm, that happened to you because you didn't listen to me! :) (j/k)
[04:51] <am3r1ca> is there an EAX for linux ???
[04:51] <IdleOne> am3r1ca:  google
[04:51] <farous> !nubuntu
[04:51] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[04:52] <ideafix> anyone knows whats the difrence betwen installing flight from the live cd aka expresso and from the regular instal cd ?
[04:52] <randabis> my ndiswrapper is not working with flight 4 64 bit :(
[04:52] <GTX> I cannot play any games without currupted sound and its really annoying I dont know whats up with it, should I buy a new sound card or?
[04:52] <ideafix> anyone knows whats the difrence betwen installing flight from the live cd aka expresso verus the regular instal cd ?
[04:52] <Yango> IdleOne, is a 3 lines paste flooding? I thought 3 lines was the acceptable maximum :)
[04:53] <mustard5> ideafix, please don't repeat all the time
[04:53] <ideafix> i syill didnt get any one to anser
[04:53] <a2xm> Yango, so if I've to put something in document root its mean /var/www/ ? ;-)
[04:53] <amphi> !repeat
[04:53] <ubotu> methinks repeat is Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[04:53] <Yango> a2xm, BINGO! ;)
[04:54] <GTX> Hello, can someone help fix my overall sound, some times it  doesnt work and when it does work its all currupted sound like techno music comes out of it, please help
[04:54] <Yango> techno is cool...
[04:54] <GTX> :p
[04:54] <Yango> when does it stop working?
[04:54] <GTX> Yango, currupted tacno
[04:54] <GTX> Well its currupted more than anything
[04:54] <GTX> Playing music its fine
[04:54] <GTX> But when I go into game like quake4
[04:54] <a2xm> thanks guys ;-)
[04:54] <GTX> its all currupted
[04:55] <Yango> maybe you need to set quake to use esd, or configure your system to use alsa instead of esd
[04:55] <gego> hi
[04:55] <christian> what is the suod install command for packages on desktop
[04:55] <GTX> Yango,  how do i make quake use esd?
[04:55] <Yango> GTX, I don't know
[04:55] <GTX> Yango, with ALSA i do aoss command
[04:56] <GTX> how do I do it with ESD
[04:56] <mustard5> christian, you mean the dpkg command for installing .debs locally?
[04:56] <IdleOne> christian:  sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:56] <eliyahu> can anyone reccomend a good WYSIWYG GUI HTML editor that works well with ubutu?
[04:56] <christian> the deskotp command
[04:56] <IdleOne> desktop command?
[04:57] <farous> !ebuntu
[04:57] <ubotu> farous: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:57] <amphi> christian: synaptic?
[04:57] <christian> sudo install deskotp/opera
[04:57] <mustard5> IdleOne, he's talking about dpkg...installing a .deb from desktop
[04:57] <IdleOne> christian:  open a terminal window ( looks like a dos prompt )
[04:57] <christian> to tell location of file
[04:57] <gego> how do i mount a external (usb) floppy divice ? i see it in the "coputer" but i cant "forat" it...
[04:57] <jimcooncat> eliyahu, I use nvu
[04:57] <christian> and how to mount floppy in terminal
[04:57] <IdleOne> christian:  inn terminal type cd Desktop
[04:57] <eliyahu> ok jimcoonn i'll give that a shot
[04:57] <christian> kk
[04:58] <amphi> christian: mount /dev/fd0 /mount/point
[04:58] <gego> how do i mount a external (usb) floppy divice ? i see it in the "coputer" but i cant "forat" it...
[04:58] <IdleOne> christian:  you want to do to many things at once
[04:58] <LaptopZZ`> Does anyone know how to make dapper use vncserver with xorg 7?
[04:58] <D> !wireless
[04:58] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:58] <jimcooncat> eliyahu, it's nice because the Windows version is just about the same thing
[04:58] <jimcooncat> and has decent understanding of css
[04:58] <amphi> christian: actually, I'm not sure what device a usb floppy will show up as
[04:58] <eliyahu> its installingn
[04:58] <christian> ide floppy
[04:59] <Cryptid> My GDM themed login screen is in 1280x768 resolution and my desktop is in 1024x768 resolution how do i change the GDM resoution to 1024x768 ????
[04:59] <mustard5> gego, have you used the pastebin before?
[04:59] <robinl1> no
[04:59] <robinl1> i haven't used the pastebin before
[04:59] <christian> before restared a popup in the corner was saying something was broken and opera?
[04:59] <robinl1> cradek, i don't know.
[04:59] <mustard5> robinl1, I'm talking to gego atm
[04:59] <robinl1> mustard5, i know, but it's fun to react :-)
[05:00] <Xappe> Cryptid: remove the 1280x768 option in xorg.conf at the colordepth you're using as default
[05:01] <tristan> Anyone knows how to concatenate pdf files to only one pdf file?
[05:02] <tristan> would the cat command work?
[05:02] <Cryptid> Xappe, will that solve the problem???
[05:02] <dyrne> tristan: maybe pdftk
[05:02] <papa_lic> sooo
[05:02] <Xappe> Cryptid: GDM uses the first resolution in the list
[05:02] <papa_lic> after few hours messing with live-cd
[05:02] <papa_lic> no solution
[05:03] <papa_lic> I do not understand this
[05:03] <papa_lic> look like the team has made some coding error and no-one knows about it
[05:04] <christian> my internet is slow how to set network settings? cause in windows it was way faster?
[05:04] <mustard5> !/msg ubotu ip6
[05:04] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mustard5
[05:04] <papa_lic> intyernet is slow....perhaps ya pc or smth is slow?
[05:05] <christian> i have dsl 2500 d/l speed 450 upload
[05:05] <Cryptid> Xappe, didnt fix the problem man ne other solutions????
[05:06] <Valombre> hi
[05:06] <Xappe> Cryptid: no, that's what did it for me
[05:06] <christian> universal repositories
[05:06] <christian> need the links
[05:06] <acidic32> hi, how comes totem or kaffne wont play DVD's?
[05:06] <annex> I just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy.  Now all my icons in gnome are broken... most have the little 'piece of paper' icon instead of their normal one.  I've searched on the forums with no luck, any ideas?
[05:07] <mustard5> christian is the speed problem only when you are browsing on firefox?
[05:07] <christian> all
[05:07] <mustard5> !repos
[05:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:07] <subliminaki> i have a problem with my usb wireless adapter...anyone canh help me?
[05:08] <christian> when i was trying live cd linux's they were slow
[05:08] <mustard5> christian, see links above from ubotu concerning extra repositories btw
[05:08] <christian> k
[05:08] <christian> opera_8.52-20060201.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[05:08] <Amaranth> christian: yeah, that's because loading an entire OS from a CD is a bit on the slow side :)
[05:08] <christian> so it is sudo apt get install opera_8.52-20060201.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[05:08] <mustard5> christian, no
[05:09] <cppnewbie> hey
[05:09] <Amaranth> christian: Live CDs run slow because of your CD drive, mostly. :)
[05:09] <christian> internet speed
[05:09] <cppnewbie> seems ill be a regular client after all :D
[05:09] <christian> wise
[05:09] <acidic32> where do i get dvd decoder from?
[05:09] <deternal> my comp sometimes locks up when I activate my wireless network - /usually/ it doesnt if it can connect to the ap upon boot, but sometimes it will crash at the login prompt
[05:09] <cppnewbie> well, i cant seem to install my router.. i cant find the way to install that one. how do i do it? what can i tell u that helps?
[05:09] <papetowe> Hello, im new. Could anyone point me to a guide on how t o dual boot ubuntu  & xp on a laptop?
[05:09] <mustard5> christian, its  sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/opera_blahblahblah.deb
[05:09] <deternal> if anyone have any hints they'd be appreciated
[05:10] <eliyahu> jimcoon i have nvnu installed
[05:10] <eliyahu> nice
[05:10] <eliyahu> i wish it would also do php
[05:10] <deternal> papetowe, if xp is installed first ubuntu will just add xp to the bootloader
[05:10] <eliyahu> know on WYSIWYG php editor gui anyone?
[05:11] <papetowe> I read some guides, and it looked like there were alot of steps i had to do
[05:11] <christian> how do i copy what u just typed
[05:11] <christian> ctrl c
[05:11] <christian> ?
[05:11] <papetowe> Your saying i can just run it and theres an option to dual boot?
[05:12] <deternal> papetowe, you need to do the following, in this order: partition your harddrive - if you dont want special partitions just make 2 system partitions and 1 swap partition, the one system partition is for xp the other for ubuntu
[05:12] <deternal> then install xp
[05:12] <deternal> then install ubuntu
[05:12] <deternal> and then you are running
[05:12] <mustard5> christian, what IRC client are you running?
[05:12] <papetowe> I have xp already installed
[05:12] <rambo3> buptist irc v9
[05:12] <mustard5> christian, normally you just select the text and it goes in your clipboard automatically
[05:13] <deternal> papetowe, ok, hows your partitioning?
[05:13] <Thorondor> hi, how can i upgrade from breezy to dapper flight 4 without a complete reinstall?
[05:13] <Amaranth> Thorondor: but in the flight 4 cd, it should ask if you want to use it to upgrade
[05:13] <Amaranth> !dapper
[05:13] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[05:14] <Amaranth> d'oh
[05:14] <pianoboy3333> Who here uses a RADEON X600?
[05:14] <christian>  i think i installed opera where do i find it at?
[05:14] <Thorondor> Amaranth: ah, thanks.
[05:14] <mustard5> !flight4
[05:14] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[05:14] <dylan_> can somebody help me?  when I go into Network Servers, I can browse networked machines, but I cannot write to them.  I need to be able to write to them.
[05:14] <pianoboy3333> !flight 5
[05:14] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pianoboy3333
[05:14] <pianoboy3333> !flight5
[05:14] <subliminaki> anyone can help me with ndiswrapper ??
[05:14] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pianoboy3333
[05:14] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: whats up?
[05:14] <Ng> pianoboy3333: flight4 was only just released, give them a chance ;)
[05:14] <subliminaki> i've installed my drivers
[05:15] <Jormundgand> People migrating from the Windows world interpret "development" as "severely broken". In the Linux world "in development" means not that it is severely broken but that things are changing so some things may stop working happily with others as bugs are fixed.
[05:15] <pianoboy3333> Ng: lol, I no, but there is some wiki page for flight5
[05:15] <stefan_> my friend forgot his root password during ubuntu insatall, any ideas of what to do?
[05:15] <Jormundgand> After all, ALL Windows builds are severely broken. =P
[05:15] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: ok...... so what isn't working?
[05:15] <subliminaki> but i don't see my interface of wireless
[05:15] <Jormundgand> stefan_: There is no root password.
[05:15] <pianoboy3333> Who here uses a RADEON X600?
[05:15] <Amaranth> stefan_: There is no root account to forgot the password to.
[05:15] <Amaranth> pianoboy3333: Please don't repeat yourself.
[05:15] <pianoboy3333> kk
[05:15] <mustard5> Thorondor, doesnt seem to be much in the way of help on the wiki page actually
[05:16] <stefan_> Jormundgand, no, but the thing is that it wants a password but it's not the password for the only user istalled..?
[05:16] <Jormundgand> Yes it is.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> stefan_,  he did that 'advanced' install?
[05:16] <tristan> pianoboy3333 : me
[05:16] <stefan_> Dr_Willis, no, normal
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> stefan_,  so he then set the root password  manually?
[05:17] <tristan> pianoboy3333, well a Radeon X700 on an ACER laptop
[05:17] <Jormundgand> Dr_Willis: This is uncanny. My Physics teacher has the same name as your nick. XD
[05:17] <stefan_> Dr_Willis, yes
[05:17] <deternal> papetowe, you sure? I cant see it
[05:17] <stefan_> Dr_Willis, no
[05:17] <dylan_> can somebody help me?  when I go into Network Servers, I can browse networked machines, but I cannot write to them.  I need to be able to write to them.
[05:17] <Jormundgand> So every time you speak I think "why is my Physics teacher on an Ubuntu chatroom?"
[05:17] <deternal> I tried to pm you tho
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> stefan_,  yes/no...  :P  lol.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> Journich,  heh heh.
[05:17] <dooglus> Amaranth: there *is too* a root account in ubuntu!
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Journich,  Now go study for that test!
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> LO
[05:18] <tristan> I created a comand in my .bash_aliases and I want to write an info so that when I type info my_command it displays some help : how can I do that?
[05:18] <Amaranth> dooglus: No, not really.
[05:18] <Jormundgand> But we're doing coursework for the next two weeks, sir!
[05:18] <Jormundgand> =P
[05:18] <Chousuke> Amaranth: yes it has.
[05:18] <tristan> pianoboy3333, what is your trouble with your X600?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> tristan,  'info' is a standard command. yoi may want to get a better name for your alias.
[05:18] <Chousuke> Amaranth: root login is just disabled.
[05:18] <Amaranth> dooglus: It's random garbage that will never match up with any real password you can type in.
[05:18] <dooglus> Amaranth: what do you mean, not really?  look in /etc/passwd - it's there!
[05:18] <jeff_hann> dylan_:detail,please
[05:18] <dooglus> Amaranth: you're talking about the root password, not the root account
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> tristan,  make a simple batch file with lots of echo "hello mom" and put them in a file, chmod +x it.. this is bash basics stuff.
[05:19] <dylan_> jeff_hann, i need to be able to write to my networked machines.  apparently i can read anything connected through my router that has shared folders, but i "Dont have permissions to write to that folder"
[05:19] <Amaranth> dooglus: It's easier to say "It doesn't exist" than "It exists but has a garbage password and you shouldn't use it because we have sudo"
[05:19] <blitznl> just installed ubuntu but there various services being started that I don't need (e.g. cups and bluetooth), how can I disable them?
[05:19] <christian> bum
[05:19] <dooglus> Amaranth: it's also easier to say 1+1=3, but that's a lie, too
[05:19] <tristan> Dr_Willis, I created a mergepdf command. I want that some help to be displayed when I'll type info mergepdf...
[05:20] <dooglus> Amaranth: I don't think lying to newbies is a good idea.
[05:20] <christian> boot-up manager what im getting right now
[05:20] <subliminaki> i need help with ndiswrapper
[05:20] <Amaranth> dooglus: I'm not in the modd.
[05:20] <subliminaki> please
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> tristan,  so you want to write your own info docs then?
[05:20] <Amaranth> s/modd/mood/
[05:20] <Pablo> I need some help mounting a pcmcia cf please
[05:20] <tristan> Dr_Willis, yes exactly if it is not too difficult
[05:20] <dooglus> Amaranth: how does your mood justify misleading people?
[05:20] <jeff_hann> ok...but details like:do you have a root account,are you on the server,etc.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> tristan,  'mergepdf --help'  would be a better wayt o get quick help. in a command.
[05:20] <Amaranth> dooglus: Drop it.
[05:20] <Pablo> I need some help mounting a pcmcia cf please
[05:21] <tristan> Dr_Willis, ok, and how do I do that?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> tristan,  also just simple 'man pages' would be easier to write.. Ive never wrote an info page befor. heh
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> tristan,  have your program check the arguments,. if one is 'help' print a lot of stuff.
[05:21] <tristan> Dr_Willis, I don't understand....
[05:22] <dooglus> Amaranth: OK, I admit it, you're right.  There isn't a root account in ubuntu.  Just please don't kick me.
[05:22] <christian> where do find a program i just installed?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> tristan,  its time you learned some bash shell scripting then. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/  is a MUST read :P loads of examples.
[05:22] <Jormundgand> christian: I'd wager it'd be on your hard drive.
[05:22] <Amaranth> dooglus: Being right or wrong isn't what is annoying me, it's arguing such a minor thing.
[05:22] <tristan> Dr_Willis, thanks I'll look at that
[05:23] <christian> where at though?
[05:23] <beeswax> does wine setup with apt report any problems like "error reading from server. remote end closed connection"?
[05:23] <beeswax> for you, i mean
[05:24] <dooglus> understanding administrator/root privs is an important part of looking after a machine.  look at the problems people have on Windows because they don't understand about running as administrator.  If people understood the issues, things would be a little better.  Telling people "there's no root account" doesn't help anyone understand anything.
[05:25] <dylan_> jeff_hann, do you not know of a solution?  :(
[05:25] <christian> where is the program i installed located
[05:26] <jeff_hann> dylan_:if you have a root account then chmod those folders
[05:26] <dylan_> jeff_hann, should i do chmod u+x  ?
[05:26] <mustard5> christian, try typing opera in terminal
[05:26] <jeff_hann> chmod 775
[05:26] <dylan_> jeff_hann, thanks!  for future reference, how do i figure out what kinds of numbers to use for chmod?
[05:26] <davey_> Can I upgrade Ubuntu to breezy (from Hoary) using an ISO mounted using a loopback device?
[05:27] <jeff_hann> better yet 'man chmod'
[05:27] <christian> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[05:27] <oklinux> any one here know to make realplayer work ?
[05:27] <xored> i just created some iptable rules ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8966 ). Iam running a linux box as router ( dilip ppp0 ) and the inner ethernet eth0 with 2 trusty clients ( 25,21). But now iam not able to connect to my box thorugh ssh, any tips ?
[05:27] <mustard5> christian, did you get errors on the install?
[05:27] <bensode> Anyone have a few minutes to help with NFS client permissions on breezy client?
[05:28] <jeff_hann> dylan_ : np:read a simple unix manual,you'll find things about file permissions there
[05:28] <christian> no
[05:28] <dylan_> jeff_hann, it doesnt tell me anything decent in man chmod
[05:28] <mark__> hi all, I'm a noob and would like some help getting grub to recognize a second hd with win 2k (originally the system's main hd).
[05:28] <christian> it says oper has encountered a problem with the plug-ins
[05:28] <jeff_hann> decent?what do you mean?
[05:29] <dylan_> jeff_hann, i mean i do man chmod, and it only tells me that -v does verbose, etc.  nothing about numbers
[05:29] <christian> it started...yay
[05:29] <dylan_> or the combinations or executable chmod actions, etc.
[05:29] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: ok, whats the prob?
[05:29] <christian> opera closed when i closed terminal...???
[05:30] <jeff_hann> dylan_:if you don't like reading man pages,google will always be your friend in neeed
[05:30] <jeff_hann> *need
[05:30] <Davey|Work> christian: create a launcher for it :)
[05:30] <christian> where how?
[05:30] <subliminaki> i've installed the drivers of my usb wireless adapter
[05:30] <subliminaki> if i do ndiswrapper -l
[05:30] <Davey|Work> christian: the process is tied to the terminal when starting from a terminal (unless you tell it not to be, but don't worry about that)
[05:30] <dylan_> thanks jeff_hann
[05:30] <subliminaki> wlanutg driver present, hardware present
[05:30] <mustard5> christian, christian on the wiki page for opera it describes the problem you are seeing....it is related to java
[05:30] <jeff_hann> there are tons of linux help websites out there...good ones even
[05:31] <mustard5> christian, I suspect you may not have java installed
[05:31] <jeff_hann> anytime,dylan_
[05:31] <christian> yeah
[05:31] <Davey|Work> christian: right click on the menu bar at top > Add to Panel > Custom Application Launcher > Choose the Opera binary
[05:31] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: ok.......... do you have breezy badger?
[05:31] <subliminaki> but i don't see the interface if i do iwconfig
[05:31] <Davey|Work> christian: then you can just click it :)
[05:31] <subliminaki> yes i do
[05:31] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: go to System->Admin.->Networking
[05:32] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  yes
[05:32] <oklinux> where is realplayer installed ?
[05:32] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: now it says The interface wlan0 is not active?
[05:32] <christian> where is the opera binary
[05:32] <Davey|Work> christian: its the file you just ran in terminal :)
[05:32] <christian> the install package?
[05:32] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  there isn't wlan0
[05:33] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  only eth0
[05:33] <christian> the .deb file?
[05:33] <beeswax> anyone used bluetooth with ubuntu?
[05:33] <acidic32> how comes i get error about encrypted DVD's?
[05:33] <mustard5> christian, no ..the .deb file is the install package
[05:33] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: Are you using a wifi adapter?
[05:33] <christian> so where is the binary?
[05:33] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  yes an usb wifi adapter
[05:33] <bensode> Is there a command line option to specify local user permissions on an NFS mount?
[05:34] <cradek> bensode: with nfs you get exactly what is on the remote filesystem
[05:34] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: is the ethernet cable still plugged in then?
[05:34] <haakonn> i see backports has subversion 1.3 (files in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/subversion/), but apt doesn't seem to know about them -- how do i install 1.3?
[05:34] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  yes
[05:34] <mustard5> christian, just put 'opera' in the command field for the launcher
[05:34] <kenas> how can i access my network ?
[05:35] <mustard5> christian, or even opera %s
[05:35] <acidic32>  how comes i get error about encrypted DVD's?
[05:35] <christian> no such file it says
[05:36] <bensode> That's what I figured, but the NFS share has the ubuntu ip permission RW and allowed root.  I have to mount the NFS share as root on the ubuntu box but when I try to cd into the directory as the local user I get Permission Denied and the uid/gid is a long numberic string
[05:36] <kenas> Problems Accessing Network
[05:36] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: ok, I believe that is confusing ubuntu, so u'll have to restart, take the ethernet out b4 ubuntu loads, then when you get into ubuntu u'll go back to network settings and it should be there.... I hope, also make sure you only have that one driver installed (ndiswrapper -l to see drivers) uninstall others with ndiswrapper -e
[05:36] <mustard5> christian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:36] <mustard5> christian, load that in opera if its working
[05:36] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  ok i try...then i'll back here
[05:36] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: and you'll have to confiugre the card with the prop. button
[05:36] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  thank ou
[05:37] <pianoboy3333> kk
[05:37] <pianoboy3333> good night, and good luck
[05:37] <pianoboy3333> lol
[05:37] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  thank you
[05:37] <cradek> bensode: you'll have to match your uids/gids with the other system to get the behavior you want.
[05:37] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333:  see you later
[05:37] <tanubis> anyone know a repository that has the rar/unrar packages?
[05:37] <cradek> bensode: this is why NIS and NFS are often used together
[05:37] <pianoboy3333> kk
[05:37] <bensode> ugh ok it's a Windows NFS share ... and it's not very well documented on the Windows side ...
[05:37] <mark__> hi all, I'm a noob and would like some help getting grub to recognize a second hd with win 2k (originally the system's main hd).
[05:37] <Joan> where do I find my sda3 disc? Ubuntu is installed on sda1 and swap is sda2
[05:37] <cradek> bensode: use samba instead of nfs then.
[05:38] <FlyingSquirrel32> how do I prepend a letter to all of the filenames in a directory?
[05:38] <cradek> FlyingSquirrel32: for i in *; do mv $i a$i; done
[05:38] <Jormundgand> cradek: damn you, I was halfway through typing out that exact same script.
[05:38] <FlyingSquirrel32> cradek: thanks
[05:38] <Joan> send mark__ install ubuntu after windows
[05:38] <zaphod_> Hello
[05:39] <vitriol> i can't access my network printer from any other machine....i think it might be an iptables thing
[05:39] <zaphod_> Anyone here?
[05:39] <vitriol> anyone know what i might be doing wrong?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[05:39] <bensode> I'd like to, but the problem is these are dev unix boxes that "require" an NFS environment.  I'll have to keep beating up on the windows end
[05:39] <makaveli> can i convert windoze ntfs to ext3 without loosing data?
[05:39] <Davey|Work> Anyone knowif the Burnfree stuff is the buffer underrun protection?
[05:39] <cradek> bensode: sounds like...
[05:39] <pianoboy3333> I'm having a problem where when I boot up, the GRUB screen is fine, but the ubuntu loading screen, and ubuntu safemode terminal are distorted, yet once I get into ubuntu it's fine........ I use a ATI RADEON X600....
[05:39] <bensode> just making sure I wan't missong anything on the mount options to set the uid at mount time
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> vitriol,  could flush all the iptables rules  to totally disable them. and seeif it works them.. if it does - then you know its an iptables issue.
[05:39] <Joan> you could make it fat32 without loosing
[05:39] <pianoboy3333> help?
[05:40] <mark__> Joan, are you saying I need to reinstall windows on the second hd?
[05:40] <vitriol> Dr_Willis: how do you do that?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> vitriol,  how did you enable iptables rules anyway?
[05:40] <FlyingSquirrel32> cradek: sorry, just one more, remove the last letter?
[05:40] <vitriol> Dr_Willis: i assumed they were there by default in ubuntu
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo iptables --list' will show if any exist.
[05:40] <vitriol> ok
[05:41] <Joan> not really mark_, if you already have wondows you should be able to put GRUB in the master boot record while installong ubuntu
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> vitriol,  if ya get none. :P then ya gotta look elseware lol.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> for your problem.
[05:41] <cradek> FlyingSquirrel32: for i in *; do mv $i ${i%?}; done
[05:41] <tanubis> anyone know where I can find a working rar/unrar package?
[05:41] <cradek> FlyingSquirrel32: (untested)
[05:41] <vitriol> Dr_Willis: thanks!
[05:41] <vitriol> no rules but ACCEPT
[05:41] <vitriol> so that's not the problem
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> vitriol,  yep. Hmm..the shared printer is on a windows machine?
[05:42] <mustard5> !rar
[05:42] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:42] <FlyingSquirrel32> cradek: thanks a bunch.
[05:42] <vitriol> Dr_Willis: no, it's on the ubuntu machine i'm using right now
[05:42] <cradek> FlyingSquirrel32: welcome
[05:42] <oklinux> Dr_Willis are you good on installing Realplayer ?
[05:42] <Mordof> vitriol, do you have samba set up properly?
[05:42] <vitriol> Dr_Willis: the two other computers i want to be able to use it are windows machines
[05:42] <vitriol> Mordof: i followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP?highlight=%28print%29
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> oklinux,  nope. :P i read the wiki on it.. and thats it.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> vitriol,  the service pack2 on windows often has a very annoying firewall set up.
[05:43] <mark__> Joan, I am currently running hoary on my new first hd. How can I change GRUB to give me the option to boot to win 2k?
[05:43] <Joan> in the GUI how could I find sda3? anyone?
[05:43] <vitriol> ohh
[05:43] <vitriol> Dr_Willis: yes that could be it! glad you mentioned it
[05:43] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with my loading problem, it is also stopping me from using live cd's....
[05:43] <Mordof> vitriol, did you follow that first part exactly or did you add all of your ip addresses?
[05:43] <vitriol> Mordof: i followed it exactly
[05:44] <stefan_> does fluxbox exist to ubuntu?
[05:44] <Mordof> vitriol, what is the network IP you are on?
[05:44] <mustard5> mark__, is windows on the second hard drive?
[05:44] <vitriol> Mordof: 192.168.1.103
[05:44] <FlyingSquirrel32> cradek: any good reference on that sort of stuff, and if not what should I google for?
[05:44] <mark__> mustard5, yes
[05:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> i use it...
[05:44] <Mordof> vitriol, thats your problem
[05:44] <cradek> FlyingSquirrel32: man sh
[05:44] <theplateau> same here vitriol
[05:44] <theplateau> :P
[05:44] <Mordof> vitriol, you dont have the right IP's set
[05:44] <vitriol> nah i edited that part
[05:44] <mustard5> mark__, I think windows likes to be on the first drive...so you have to trick it into thinking it on the first drive with some special grub commands
[05:44] <tortoise> I need to run ubuntu setup from hard disk, how can i do this?
[05:44] <vitriol> to go from 192.168.0 5o 192.168.1
[05:44] <Mordof> Allow From 192.168.0.*   change to Allow From 192.168.1.*    oh you did that?
[05:45] <Mordof> oh ok
[05:45] <interneti> anyone build sussen from source
[05:45] <Mordof> robinl1, ?? why? lol
[05:45] <interneti> ?
[05:45] <Mordof> im just trying to help
[05:45] <cavedive2> Hi. Anyone uses Xgl and compis in Dapper? Is there a way to add transset to the menu somehow, allowing to set transparancy on a per windows basis without having to go to console
[05:45] <mustard5> mark__, I'll just have a look at my grub menu.lst
[05:45] <Mordof> haha
[05:45] <christian> is there a way for me to set my netowrk settings correctly
[05:45] <robinl1> bowling:D
[05:45] <mark__> mustard5, thanks
[05:45] <vitriol> Mordof: i know, and thank you
[05:45] <christian> it is vey slow browsing an any browser
[05:45] <robinl1> STRIKE! :D
[05:45] <interneti> mustard5:ever build sussen fom source?
[05:46] <Ng> robinl1: shoosh ;)
[05:46] <mustard5> interneti, never :)
[05:46] <Mordof> vitriol, hmmm.. you sure thats the port its using?
[05:46] <fek> moin
[05:46] <tortoise> My computer cannot start from CD, I have USB cd-rom working in DOS, How can i proceed to install my ubuntu?
[05:47] <john-here> what computer do i need to run ubuntu?
[05:47] <Mordof> tortoise, go into your bios and change it so your cd rom boots first..
[05:47] <interneti> well perhaps you could help anyway
[05:47] <Ng> robinl1: this is a support channel, if you want to muck about, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <robinl1> i know :P
[05:47] <tortoise> Mordof: It is a tablet PC, no options in biops
[05:47] <pianoboy3333> I'm having a problem where when I boot up, the GRUB screen is fine, but the ubuntu loading screen, and ubuntu safemode terminal are distorted, yet once I get into ubuntu it's fine........ I use a ATI RADEON X600.... How can I make it undistorted?
[05:47] <robinl1> not many people there
[05:47] <Ng> robinl1: if you know, why are you still spamming nonsense in here?
[05:47] <Mordof> tortoise, i dunno then :P
[05:47] <robinl1> well, thats my reason
[05:47] <robinl1> not many people there
[05:47] <Ng> tough
[05:47] <Ng> :)
[05:47] <mustard5> mark__, here is my menu.lst...take note of the 'map' commands on the section involving windows..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8967
[05:48] <tortoise> Mordof: Thanks anyways :)
[05:48] <Mordof> vitriol, i have no idea... sorry, ive never done it before so i dont know where to start trouble-shooting
[05:48] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333: nothing
[05:48] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: hmmmmmmmm
[05:48] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333: there isn't the interface
[05:48] <mustard5> mark__, the windows section is down the bottom
[05:48] <interneti> see what you could make of this mustard5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8968
[05:48] <tortoise> If i could run setup from hard disk, maybe then i can have my ubuntu on my little tabby
[05:48] <mark__> mustard5, thanks, I'll take a look
[05:48] <Davey|Work> Is it possible to dist-upgrade hoary to breezy using a loopback mounted ISO?
[05:48] <john-here> what computer do i need to run ubuntu?
[05:48] <Mordof> tortoise, do you have a boot disk for a floppy?
[05:49] <vitriol> i turned off the windows firewall, and it still isn't being picked up...
[05:49] <vitriol> strange
[05:49] <Jormundgand> john: ubuntu works on i386, amd64 and ppc architectures.
[05:49] <tortoise> Mordof: I have a modified 98 boot disk, that sees the USB cd, i also have a debian sarge dvd. that is all the tools i have
[05:49] <robinl1> ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS ANANAS :D
[05:49] <dyrne> tortoise: loadlin might be helpful never used it myself basically dos prog to boot linux images i think
[05:49] <Mordof> tortoise, i see.. then i dunno
[05:50] <john-here> so i can install it on my p1-166mhz 16mb ram and 1gig hdd?
[05:50] <interneti> any clues mustard5?
[05:50] <tortoise> dyrne: is loadlin on ubuntu or debian sarge cd?
[05:50] <Jormundgand> john: sure, but don't expect speed. =P
[05:50] <tortoise> Mordof: thanks :)
[05:50] <mustard5> interneti, I would apt-get gtksharp related packages :)
[05:50] <Joan> where can I find drives outside the Filesystem. I have a second fat32 partition that I can't find i ubunutu. Ubunutu is installed on sda1,2 and the second partition is sda3
[05:50] <john-here> it might be a 200mhz or is it the ram that would slow it down?
[05:51] <mustard5> interneti, there is a gtk-sharp  and a gtk-sharp2 in repositories
[05:51] <dyrne> tortoise: not an ubuntu app. maybe i misundertood you are trying to install ubuntu w/out cd right?
[05:51] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: I really don't know
[05:51] <christian> sorry to ask again "universal repositories" the link to it
[05:51] <Jormundgand> Just about everything about those specs would slow it down unless you use Xfce or something really light.
[05:51] <tortoise> dyrne:correct
[05:51] <cradek> john-here: you should probably have 64MB of ram and 3G of disk for a comfortable full install
[05:51] <john-here> hmm
[05:51] <cradek> john-here: also your system needs to be able to boot from CD.
[05:51] <Joan> mark__ I never did it that way, but there should be instructions in the forum or the wiki have yopu checked that?
[05:51] <christian> im on a 33mhz 256 ram and 8mb video card
[05:51] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333: how can i do to see if the ndiswrapper module work correctly
[05:51] <christian> 333mhz
[05:51] <mark__> mustard5, my win2k is on /dev/hdb1, should I copy the end of your grub and paste it to the end of mine
[05:51] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: ndiswrapper -l, should say driver present, hardware present
[05:52] <simon__> newbie
[05:52] <mustard5> mark__, let me just have a look at mine again
[05:52] <interneti> Mustard5: that' s the problem. I already have the gtksharp
[05:52] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333: ye
[05:52] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333: yes
[05:52] <haakonn> is a dist-upgrade to dapper likely to yield a usable system, or should i just forget about it?
[05:52] <tortoise> Do i need to have ubuntu running on a computer already to do network boot?
[05:52] <pianoboy3333> subliminaki: g2g
[05:52] <mustard5> interneti, you got gtk-sharp2?
[05:52] <mark__> Joan, I tried some of the ideas in the forum, but it wouldn't recognize the disk format
[05:52] <john-here> so what can this os do that windows xp cant?
[05:52] <interneti> yes
[05:52] <tortoise> my tablet supports PXE
[05:52] <subliminaki> pianoboy3333: ?
[05:52] <slavik-lt> I hvae a winXP printer that is being shared, how do I access it from ubuntu?
[05:52] <xored> i justed setted iam my iptables and get a last problem, maybe logical : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste . For my logic, there should be no access to the box from the interne( no ports opened to the box, only forward), but somehow there is access. Why ?
[05:53] <cradek> john-here: that's outside the scope of a support channel
[05:53] <mark__> title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[05:53] <mark__> rootnoverify	(hd1,0)
[05:53] <mark__> makeactive
[05:53] <mark__> chainloader	+1
[05:53] <mustard5> mark_, I suspect it might work, exept you would need to change the title...I have no real experience with doing what you are saying though
[05:53] <john-here> ok np
[05:53] <Joan> mark__ I see... hmm I think I installed windiws on a linux installation before, remember that worked, but that was XP though
[05:53] <mark__> that's what I added before
[05:53] <mark__> sorry about pasting
[05:53] <dyrne> john-here: it does everything winxp can at no cost other than time and no viruses spyware
[05:54] <john-here> cool
[05:54] <john-here> can it be ran with win xp as well?
[05:54] <theplateau> its also way better for servers
[05:54] <mustard5> mark__, ah ok..well my ubuntu install is hda and windows is hdb, so I figure we must have similar grub entries
[05:54] <interneti> john-here you can dual-boot
[05:54] <mesaboogie1> yup john-here
[05:54] <john-here> cool so what would have to be installed first?
[05:55] <tortoise> john-here: i found it easy if winxp is installed first
[05:55] <interneti> I agree
[05:55] <dyrne> john-here: you want xp first because it will mess everything up if you let it have final word and install last
[05:55] <mark__> mustard5, I'll try changing my grub to what you have.
[05:55] <interneti> any ideas mustard5?
[05:55] <john-here> ok and then i reboot with ubuntu in the cd-rom?
[05:55] <mustard5> interneti, thinking about it again....
[05:55] <illustre> good afternoon all
[05:55] <pescez> hi guys.. i have to make an install but my system says it can't find the command "make" where should i find it? i already have gcc
[05:56] <mark__> mustard5, do you think the first 'root' command is necessary?
[05:56] <dyrne> john-here: yep you will need room on your hd for a second parition thats abou ti
[05:56] <john-here> does ubuntu have ics shareing to a windows 98 computer and networking?
[05:56] <illustre> i have a live/full ubuntu dvd but cant seem to get to where i can make full install, all i am gettng is the live cd  how can i get to the full install
[05:56] <theplateau> coreutils?
[05:56] <mustard5> interneti, I think the only thing you could do is look online for the latest version of gtk-sharp2 that is greater than 2.4
[05:56] <tatters_> sudo apt-get install make    worked for me
[05:56] <Knowledge_> when's the next ubuntu comming out?
[05:57] <mustard5> mark_, I would think so
[05:57] <Ng> build-essential depends on the most important gcc/make related things
[05:57] <Ng> Knowledge_: april 20th
[05:57] <pescez> apt-get install make? gonna try.. i thought it came with gcc o something alike
[05:57] <interneti> mustard5 that's exactly what I was trying to avoid :-D
[05:57] <Knowledge_> hmm....I probably should wait until then to request the cds huh?
[05:57] <dyrne> john-here: can be setup as just a comp on the network or as the gateway yes
[05:57] <jenda> isn't make in build-essential?
[05:57] <tatters_> nope
[05:57] <mark__> mustard5, ok I'm pasted it to my grub ... gonna give it a shot ... thanks!
[05:57] <slavik-lt> I have a winXP printer that is being shared, how do I access it from ubuntu?
[05:57] <tatters_> didnt come with mine anyways
[05:58] <mark__> Joan, thanks for the input, too!
[05:58] <mustard5> interneti, hehehe..its seems to be the only way unfortunately..unless dapper has some updated gtk-sharp2 package..but that might create its own problems
[05:58] <john-here> cool, does it cost to get the cd's sent?
[05:58] <mark__> rebooting, brb
[05:59] <Sp4rKy> what's the keyboard setting software over kde ?
[05:59] <pescez> damn... it was right.. there is a package called "make"... i didn't know. thanks a lot
[05:59] <tatters_> np
[05:59] <dyrne> slavik-lt: wiki.ubuntu.com/windowsxpprinter
[05:59] <relachs> Hello, i have problems opening hdc2 on my desktop, it says i can't access it because i do not have the right. when i looked up the preferences i saw it's only readable by root, it's a NTFS Partition, but i have access as a user to HDC1, a FAT32 Partition
[05:59] <yyz> has anyone had any success compiling gens-rc3?
[06:00] <cooldaddydoof> hello all
[06:00] <rockyburt> this is odd, i installed ubuntu from the dapper drake flight 4 cd and it seems to have installed gnome 2.13.3, shouldn't it have installed gnome 2.14beta2
[06:00] <rockyburt> ?
[06:00] <yyz> barfs saying it couldnt detect gtk 2.4.0
[06:00] <cooldaddydoof>  I have a problem with either ubuntu or probably hardware but here goes
[06:00] <xerophyte> i have firefox 1.5 its randomly hanging :(
[06:00] <embrapa> oi
[06:00] <cooldaddydoof> I have two machine with ubuntu one is an amd K7 and the other a P4 machine
[06:00] <Joan> what can I do about this "Couldn't display "/dev/sda"
[06:00] <lkaminski> i have the same firefox hanging problem
[06:00] <mustard5> interneti, it looks like dapper is using 2.8
[06:00] <slavik-lt> I have a winXP printer that is being shared, how do I access it from ubuntu?
[06:01] <dyrne> relachs: sudo /etc/fstab the line for hdc patition under options change defaults to umask=000,defautls
[06:01] <embrapa> hi
[06:01] <cooldaddydoof> xmms, mplayer, NEROLINUX, and eboard on the P4 machine all have laterally compressed fonts making it impossible to read
[06:01] <dyrne> relachs: sudo gedit /etc/fstab that is
[06:01] <mustard5> interneti, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gtk-sharp2&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[06:01] <cooldaddydoof> All other applications are fine
[06:02] <yyz> ideas folks? checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.0... no
[06:02] <yyz> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[06:02] <yyz> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[06:02] <yyz> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[06:02] <yyz> configure: error: *** GTK+ version 2.4.0 not found!
[06:02] <tatters_> ouchies :P
[06:03] <pescez> fuck... can somebody tellme why i can't open dvds and get this message?
[06:03] <pescez> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[06:03] <pescez> libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd1 with libdvdcss.
[06:03] <pescez> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd1 for reading
[06:03] <pescez> mplayer
[06:03] <cooldaddydoof> pescez I assume you have all the cidecs and plugins you need?
[06:03] <papetowe> Where could i download a parttioner?
[06:03] <cooldaddydoof> codecs
[06:03] <embrapa> vai todo mundo se
[06:03] <cooldaddydoof> gparted live cd
[06:03] <pescez> i just installed 'em
[06:04] <Joan> papetowe tryQTParted
[06:04] <tatters_> sudo-apt-get install  gparted   maybe?
[06:04] <cooldaddydoof> pescex tell me what you did
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> papetowe,  i tend to use live cds that come with qtparted or gparted
[06:04] <cooldaddydoof> gparted live cd is nice
[06:04] <Joan> papetowe sudo apt-get install qtparted if I'm not wrong
[06:04] <papetowe> Im not running a live cd though
[06:04] <Joan> >p
[06:04] <relachs> dyrne, do i need to restart ubuntu?
[06:04] <Joan> :p
[06:05] <tatters_> gparted is quicker to type :P
[06:05] <dyrne> relachs: try sudo mount -a see if you get any errors
[06:05] <cooldaddydoof> papetowe the live cd is for gparted not ubuntu
[06:05] <papetowe> ok
[06:05] <bur[n] er> lol @ tatters_
[06:05] <trkorecky> Building PC - Should I put the CPU in the motherboard before putting into the case, or put the motherboard in first, then the CPU?
[06:05] <cooldaddydoof> you can partition with the gparted live cd
[06:05] <papetowe> Where is that?
[06:05] <cooldaddydoof> oline downlod it hold on i will find it
[06:05] <bshumate> pescez: how about using mplayer preferences to point to the correct dvd device, which by default under Ubuntu is /dev/dvd, not /dev/dvd1
[06:06] <relachs> dyrne, no errors
[06:06] <papetowe> thankies
[06:06] <cooldaddydoof> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:06] <embrapa> i dont speak english
[06:06] <dyrne> relachs: try to open if still doesnt work might have to unmount and redo mount -a
[06:06] <christian> Link for the wiki on universal repositories
[06:06] <christian> ?
[06:06] <pescez> i changed it to /dev/dvd1
[06:06] <pescez> i installed essential codec pack
[06:06] <cooldaddydoof> ok guys problem with laterally compressed fonts
[06:06] <trkorecky> Building PC - Should I put the CPU in the motherboard before putting into the case, or put the motherboard in first, then the CPU?
[06:07] <mustard5> !br
[06:07] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:07] <relachs> dyrne: i try to open hdc2 using the icon on my desktop but it keeps saying i do not have the right
[06:07] <cooldaddydoof> pescez OS are you using?
[06:07] <pescez> maybe something about permissions?
[06:07] <pescez> libdevcss are 1.2.8
[06:07] <bshumate> pescez: and you actually have the device /dev/dvd1 ?
[06:07] <dyrne> relachs: reboot might be easiest or umount -a then mount -a again
[06:07] <pescez> yes
[06:07] <christian> Link for the wiki on universal repositories
[06:07] <pescez> it's a link to /dev/hdd , my dvd drive
[06:07] <mustard5> !tell christian about repos
[06:07] <xored> can nobody help me ?!!? which rule in iptables would stand for "from ppp0 to the box itself ( not forward ) : iptables -A INPUT -ppp0 ?
[06:08] <Ng> xored: -i ppp0
[06:08] <relachs> dyrne: a that stands for?
[06:08] <christian> thanks
[06:08] <pescez> ubuntu 5.10
[06:08] <xored> can nobody help me ?!!? which rule in iptables would stand for "from ppp0(interent) to the box itself ( not forward ) : iptables -A INPUT -ppp0 ?
[06:08] <mustard5> christian, np
[06:08] <xored> Ng: got that, but the box is still accessable
[06:08] <cooldaddydoof> Ok lets walk though some of the installs youdid
[06:08] <trkorecky> Building PC - Should I put the CPU in the motherboard before putting into the case, or put the motherboard in first, then the CPU?
[06:08] <bshumate> pescez: could be permissions, is /dev/dvd1 a symlink to > /dev/hdd ?  (ls -ld /dev/d*)
[06:08] <relachs> ok, i will reboot
[06:08] <Ng> xored: something else must be wrong then ;)
[06:08] <xored> Ng: from the internet. I can still call services on it and the ports are opened
[06:09] <dyrne> relachs: umm maybe best
[06:09] <pescez> bshumate: yes it is
[06:09] <tatters_> CPU on MOBO first IMHO
[06:09] <cooldaddydoof> pescez you install totem-xine or mplayer
[06:09] <cooldaddydoof> or both
[06:09] <xored> Ng: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1882
[06:09] <pescez> mplayer 586
[06:09] <LinuxJones> How's the Flight 4 GUI installer working from the LiveCD...any problems with it ?
[06:09] <xored> Ng: look at the TOboxFROMinet part
[06:09] <cooldaddydoof> ok you installed the gstreamer plugins?
[06:10] <pescez> gstreamer plugins... just wait but i guess yes
[06:10] <xored> Ng: what could be wrong ?
[06:10] <Davey|Work> woohoo! upgrading to Breezy at work, finally :D
[06:10] <oklinux> hey cooldadddoof do you know how to install and config realplayer ?
[06:10] <eliyahu> hey lisi
[06:10] <Jormundgand> Am I the only one who thinks the decisions the Ubuntu dev team are making are completely detached from the reality of using Ubuntu?
[06:10] <lisi> hey, I see ya
[06:11] <xored> Ng: thats better formated : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1884
[06:11] <eliyahu> these guys are very helpful
[06:11] <xored> Ng:  iam really helpless :/
[06:11] <mustard5> Jormundgand, I'm completely detached from the realites of the dev team, so i dont know :)
[06:11] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, how can i discover that? apt?
[06:11] <LinuxJones> Jormundgand, what decisions are you talking about ?
[06:11] <Jormundgand> Two random examples off the top of my head: ESD, gnome-screensaver.
[06:11] <cooldaddydoof> pescez   apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multivers
[06:11] <bur[n] er> Jormundgand: i think you're the only one
[06:11] <cooldaddydoof> pescez if it is installed it will let you know
[06:11] <Mordof> stupid server.. i hate it when it wont let me even log in because my username is in use
[06:12] <Ng> xored: hmm, not sure
[06:12] <Jormundgand> I cannot believe the GNOME team bundled keycombos into Metacity. Have they not heard of modularising? That sort of stuff should be handled by a daemon!
[06:12] <embrapa>  beyond-rango voce sabe como instalar o kde?
[06:12] <alunos_> vgth
[06:12] <alunos_> e ae manos
[06:12] <dyrne> Jormundgand: theyre remaking the world dont question them!
[06:12] <LinuxJones> Mordof, you have to properly disconnect from the server.
[06:12] <mustard5> !br
[06:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:12] <alunos_> aowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[06:12] <papetowe> gracious
[06:12] <alunos_> kjsd
[06:12] <Ng> Jormundgand: this is not reeally a suitable place to rant about such things
[06:12] <papetowe> es muy guapo no?
[06:12] <bur[n] er> Jormundgand: it's redhat that bundled hotkeys with metacity, but that's how all window managers work.  hotkeys are with the window manager
[06:12] <interneti> arrgh sussen is annoying me
[06:13] <cooldaddydoof> pescez also do sudo apt-get install totem-xine    just in case there are codecs defaulted in the installation
[06:13] <embrapa> #ubuntu-br Isso?
[06:13] <christian> my internet is slow how do i get ti fast as it was in windows?
[06:13] <cooldaddydoof> pescez i use both totem-xine and mplayer
[06:13] <mustard5> christian, it might be a problem with your isp not handling ip6 protocol
[06:13] <bur[n] er> christian: if the sites you connect to use IIS as their server and you were using IE in windows, there is no way
[06:13] <LinuxJones> christian, it's probably ipv6 module causing your slow dns.
[06:14] <Limulus> Hi everyone ^_^
[06:14] <bur[n] er> or the ip thing
[06:14] <cooldaddydoof> Limulus hello
[06:14] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, they were not installed, i couldn't find the multilev but it went on with gstreamer0.8-plugins... it's installing a lot of plugins
[06:14] <Limulus> Has anyone here tried the Live CD persistence in the Dapper Flight 4 CD?
[06:14] <elvirolo> hi
[06:14] <christian> ip6
[06:14] <mustard5> christian, you would need to disable it..but I don't recall how
[06:14] <cooldaddydoof> pescez yes there are alot of them
[06:14] <christian> how do i get it right
[06:14] <aaaa> howis Limulus
[06:14] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, so you think it's a plugin related trouble?
[06:14] <cooldaddydoof> pescez let me know when you are done
[06:14] <elvirolo> is it safe ton upgrade from hoary to breezy ? won't my system break up ?
[06:14] <cooldaddydoof> partly
[06:15] <cooldaddydoof> pescez partly
[06:15] <Ng> !tell elvirolo about upgrade
[06:15] <mustard5> christian, you could try looking around on the ubuntuforums using the search function?
[06:15] <BockBilbo> hello
[06:15] <pescez> nothing about /dev stuff?
[06:15] <christian> kk
[06:15] <Limulus> aaaa: I'm good, but having trouble getting the Live CD persistence working ;)
[06:15] <BockBilbo> anyone user dapper knows where the nm-applet has gone???
[06:15] <BockBilbo> :S
[06:15] <mustard5> christian, I just can't recall the process offhand
[06:15] <xored> Ng:  no idea ?
[06:15] <aaaa> Exist Devc for ubuntu linux?
[06:15] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, done
[06:15] <elvirolo> Ng: thanks
[06:15] <Ng> xored: 'fraid not, my head isn't working well enough atm to think that much, sorry ;)
[06:16] <cooldaddydoof> pescez ok now in the terminal type  gst-register-0.8
[06:16] <tanner> hey
[06:16] <relak> Dyrne, that works! Thanks
[06:16] <tanner> wats hey g unit
[06:16] <dyrne> relak: np
[06:16] <mustard5> cooldaddydoof, I'm wondering whether its going to end up being something simple like scratches on the media :)
[06:16] <makaveli> g-g-g-gunat
[06:16] <relak> what do i need to install to get mp3 working?
[06:16] <cooldaddydoof> mustard5 yikes!!
[06:17] <mustard5> cooldaddydoof, I hope it all goes well though :D
[06:17] <oklinux> hey cooldaddydoof can you help me ?
[06:17] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, done without sudoing right?
[06:17] <cooldaddydoof> pescez right
[06:17] <tanner> ya sure
[06:17] <Mordof> i need some help... how do i set it so that apache has read/write capabilities and so do i on a folder in my home dir?
[06:17] <christian> boot-up manager (BUM)
[06:17] <papetowe> This things takes so long to dl
[06:17] <christian> someone searh that on the net it says for me to sudo dpkg -i bum_2.1.5-1_all.deb
[06:17] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, it still doesn't work
[06:17] <tanner> ya man
[06:17] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, :(
[06:17] <christian> but it cant find the file
[06:17] <cooldaddydoof> pescez now sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:17] <mustard5> christian, you on breezy?
[06:18] <pescez> i did that already
[06:18] <embrapa> como fao para instalar rdio no ubuntu
[06:18] <christian> 5.10
[06:18] <tanner> ru8t
[06:18] <mustard5> !br
[06:18] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:18] <cooldaddydoof> pescez did you get that?
[06:18] <Limulus> relak: install XMMS
[06:18] <christian> i guess?
[06:18] <tanner> hey gunit
[06:18] <mustard5> christian,  type this in terminal    cat /etc/issue
[06:18] <mustard5> christian, tell me what you see
[06:18] <pescez> i did it before doing all these stuff about plugins... but i'm gonna try again
[06:18] <Mordof> _jason, you there?
[06:20] <christian> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[06:20] <pescez> cooldaddydoof,  this is what it prints out when i try to open a dvd
[06:20] <mustard5> christian, ok..boot up manager is already installed then
[06:20] <pescez> Playing dvd://1.
[06:20] <pescez> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[06:20] <pescez> libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd1 with libdvdcss.
[06:20] <pescez> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd1 for reading
[06:20] <pescez> Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd1
[06:20] <pescez> File not found: '1'
[06:20] <pescez> Failed to open dvd://1
[06:20] <mustard5> christian, it comes by default in breezy
[06:20] <christian> bum?
[06:20] <relak> Limulus, ok, can you advice another good player (just don't like it)
[06:20] <Mordof> can anyone help me with folder permissions?
[06:20] <Mordof> how do i set it so that i own a folder and apache can use it also?>
[06:20] <cooldaddydoof> pescez OK hold on
[06:20] <mustard5> christian, look under system>>administration>>services
[06:20] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, ok i wait, thanks
[06:21] <christian> ok
[06:21] <ubuntu> YAY!
[06:21] <mustard5> heh
[06:21] <mustard5> that was a quick entry and exit by ubuntu :)
[06:21] <Mordof> can anyone help me out?
[06:21] <cooldaddydoof> pescez what manufacturer for the dvd rom
[06:21] <Limulus> relak: Mplayer, VLC
[06:22] <Limulus> those also play video
[06:22] <relak> VLC right
[06:22] <dyrne> Mordof: what was the problem?
[06:22] <Limulus> and to get totem to play MP3s
[06:22] <christian> how do i get the advance view of bum?
[06:22] <Limulus> you need to install the appropriate plugin
[06:22] <relak> Limulus, i have totem!
[06:22] <Mordof> dyrne, i need to get it so that a folder in my home dir.. both me and the apache have read/write/execute permissions for it
[06:22] <Mordof> /home/mordof/www
[06:22] <cooldaddydoof> relak totem-gstreamer or totem-xine
[06:22] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, samsung
[06:23] <Limulus> these packages should install it (its one of the dependencies)
[06:23] <Limulus> gstreamer0.8-misc, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:23] <cooldaddydoof> pescez ok should work fine did you try the totem-xine install
[06:23] <relak> how do i install them? :)
[06:23] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, not yet.. gonna try
[06:23] <mustard5> christian, actually I just noticed a package in the universe repository for 'bum'
[06:23] <cooldaddydoof>  pescez sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[06:23] <mustard5> christian, you should be able to to sudo apt-get install bum
[06:24] <christian> doesnt work....
[06:24] <Davey|Work> I'm having problems upgrading to Hoary :(
[06:24] <mustard5> christian, can you elaborate on that?
[06:24] <Davey|Work> uhm, Breezy
[06:24] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, it's gonna remove totem-gstreamer... is it ok?
[06:24] <cooldaddydoof> Davey|Work don't upgrade clean install are more reliable
[06:24] <Ng> christian: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[06:24] <cooldaddydoof> pescez yes that is what you want
[06:24] <dyrne> Mordof: oh god apache .. one sec :)
[06:24] <Davey|Work> cooldaddydoof, yeah, thanks, that doesn't help.
[06:25] <mustard5> Davey|Work, what is the issue?
[06:25] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, ah, i didn't figure out that :P
[06:25] <mustard5> Davey|Work, can you pastebin errors?
[06:25] <christian> yes just got it
[06:25] <cooldaddydoof> Davey |Work sorry what is the problem
[06:25] <Ng> Davey|Work: when you say you're having problems....what problems exactly?
[06:25] <Davey|Work> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?format=plain&pid=6222
[06:25] <Davey|Work> was just pastebining it :)
[06:25] <milestone> hi all
[06:25] <mustard5> christian, did you sudo apt-get update after adding universe?
[06:25] <Davey|Work> mustard5, Ng ^^
[06:25] <Mordof> dyrne, i figured out how to set it so that it can read it, but not write to it without letting everyone write to it... i want it so when i create a new file in a folder.. both me and apache have read/write/execute permissions
[06:25] <Davey|Work> First it failed, not it says I have apt-get install -f, and thats the results from that.
[06:25] <Davey|Work> s/not/now
[06:26] <Davey|Work> apt-get -f install rather
[06:26] <Ng> Davey|Work: xserver-unichrome is a non-ubuntu package afaik, so you probably want to remove that first
[06:26] <milestone> i am trying to install bb on a fsc server with a promise fasttrack S150 TX4 RAID Controller. Raid Setup with Level 1
[06:26] <john-here> does any one know where i can get a copy of it for a p3?
[06:26] <DavidHKMrPowers> hi, all , I am deciding whether to change to use linux. can give me some opinion?? thanks  if windows is free, would you still use linux? thanks
[06:26] <Limulus> relak: see my page: http://members.shaw.ca/Limulus/ubuntu.html
[06:26] <milestone> now installer shows me disks sda and sdb
[06:26] <milestone> instead of only one disk.
[06:26] <Ng> DavidHKMrPowers: I'd use it either way. Grab the Live CD and give it a spin :)
[06:27] <Davey|Work> Ng, but how to do that whern it always says I need to run apt-get -f install first? :/
[06:27] <milestone> and upon reboot the server tells nme "No Operating System found"
[06:27] <mustard5> Davey|Work, what preparatory steps did you take prior to updating?
[06:27] <milestone> Although i am getting no errors
[06:27] <cooldaddydoof> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?format=plain&pid=6222 what's happening
[06:27] <Ng> Davey|Work: you should still be able to dpkg -r it
[06:27] <jjjjjjj> anyone from the vancouver bc area here?
[06:27] <cooldaddydoof> pescez what is happening
[06:27] <milestone> any ideas anyone?
[06:27] <christian> updating right now
[06:27] <Davey|Work> mustard5, uhm, 1) download the CD 2) mount it 3) add to sources.list 4) apt-get dist-upgrade (from Synpatic)
[06:27] <moonunit> i have a problem with drive properties
[06:27] <oklinux> hey cooldaddydoof
[06:27] <Mordof> milestone, no idea, sorry
[06:27] <DavidHKMrPowers> Ng: do software run faster in linux? I mean those exist in both linux and win32
[06:28] <john-here> does any one know where i can get a copy of ubuntu for a p3 running at 600mhz with 128mb ram and a 10gig hdd?
[06:28] <mustard5> Davey|Work, just curious whether you checked to make sure the ubuntu-desktop meta package was still installed
[06:28] <dyrne> Mordof: sorry used apache a little but not sure offhand
[06:28] <cooldaddydoof> oklinux hey guy
[06:28] <christian> updated now what?
[06:28] <Davey|Work> mustard5, oh, yeah, that I did :)
[06:28] <Ng> DavidHKMrPowers: depends on the software
[06:28] <Davey|Work> mustard5, and ubuntu-core (IIRC)
[06:28] <mustard5> Davey, hmm ok
[06:28] <Mordof> dyrne, *sigh*, k
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> john-here,  huh? download the cd.
[06:28] <cooldaddydoof> pescez are you still here
[06:28] <Mordof> !apache
[06:28] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[06:28] <oklinux> Im trying to figure out realplayer can you help me ? cooldaddydoof
[06:28] <mustard5> Davey|Work, its very disappointing then that it didnt go smoothly
[06:28] <Davey|Work> mustard5, tell me about it :
[06:28] <Davey|Work> :/
[06:28] <moonunit> john-here, im running hoary on a p3
[06:28] <cooldaddydoof> oklinux fighure it out?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> ive ran Ubuntu on a Pent I :P
[06:29] <oklinux> it not working
[06:29] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, mplayer gets a new output but it gives always the same error and totem won't open the /device it says that in /etc/fstab there is no mounting point for /dev/hdd but it's untrue
[06:29] <cooldaddydoof> yeah I have ahd problems with that myself realplayer
[06:29] <Davey|Work> mustard5, I think I have a tonne of non-Ubuntu packages on here.
[06:29] <christian> bum is installing now......YEAH
[06:29] <DavidHKMrPowers> Ng: do viruses have great power in linux? comparing with win32
[06:29] <mustard5> christian, well done
[06:29] <cooldaddydoof> what did you do to install it
[06:29] <DjDarkman> hy ,i`m using breezy ,how do i ugrade to dapper flight 4?
[06:29] <Ng> DavidHKMrPowers: no
[06:29] <john-here> yes the ubuntu cd
[06:30] <cooldaddydoof> oklinux what did you do to install it
[06:30] <Ng> DavidHKMrPowers: they generally have a much harder time than on windows
[06:30] <oklinux> yes I installed real player
[06:30] <DavidHKMrPowers> Ng: how about ease of use  user-friendly??
[06:30] <mustard5> Davey|Work, yeah?  would there have been any that affected xserver-xorg you think?
[06:30] <cooldaddydoof> DjDarkman do not upgrade
[06:30] <Davey|Work> mustard5, the unichrome one
[06:30] <oklinux> but when I click on the icon nothing come up
[06:30] <DjDarkman> why cooldaddydoof ?
[06:30] <oklinux> the sound work fine
[06:30] <tkroo> can anyone help me with setting up a shared folder? i've added a smb share, and i can see it on my mac. but i can't get into it for somereason. do i need to set up a separate user for this?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm - how do you get sudo to do more 'complex' commands such as.. (simple example)    sudo 'ls > test.file'
[06:30] <cooldaddydoof> First upgrades for ANY OS is a good way of getting problems
[06:31] <mustard5> Davey, I wonder whether its possible at this stage to remove it
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> sudo dont like that sort of construction
[06:31] <cooldaddydoof> second dapper is NOT ready for you to actually do an upgrade
[06:31] <NRG88> hi, in what repository can i find gnome-commander?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !find gnome-commander
[06:31] <ubotu> gnome-commander: (File manager for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 237 kB, Installed size: 1020 kB
[06:31] <milestone> anyone knows a component database with supported raid cards like the cdb.suse.de?
[06:31] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, is it a big problem?
[06:31] <NRG88> Dr_Willis: i'm using dapper
[06:32] <cooldaddydoof> oklinux I don't use realplayer i don't think i can help you
[06:32] <cooldaddydoof> pescez what is big problem
[06:32] <NRG88> and i have uncommented all the lines from the sources.list
[06:32] <randabis> hmm...wonder why you can't pull up the channel list
[06:32] <john-here> ill be back later as im going to bed now
[06:33] <cooldaddydoof> pescez what were you refering to
[06:33] <Davey|Work> it seems to be doing... something now
[06:33] <mustard5> Davey|Work, thats positive :)
[06:33] <kiran_> hi, could someone tell me how to play mp3's and Dvd's on ubuntu, i'm kinda new
[06:33] <Davey|Work> i just saw setting up gnome-desktop 2.12 whizz by
[06:33] <Limulus> DavidHKMrPowers: you might find this interesting: http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus
[06:33] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, that totem tells about a missing mounting point in fstab when it exists instead
[06:34] <randabis> I'm having major problems with wireless networking in dapper flight 4 I have a bcm4318 chipset and have been unable to get it working with the kernel drivers or with ndiswrapper
[06:34] <cooldaddydoof> pescez did you restart your computer?
[06:34] <relak> Limulus, nice  page. I added the 4 Official Ubuntu Repositories but what i need a appropiate key for?
[06:34] <ashish> !fonts
[06:34] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[06:34] <DavidHKMrPowers> Limulus:great!!
[06:34] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, i need to do that too?
[06:35] <cooldaddydoof> pescez yes always restart when doing major stuff like this
[06:35] <Davey|Work> man, Synaptics looks like its sporting a GTK1 interface right now. it blows.
[06:35] <cooldaddydoof> come back here when you boot back in
[06:35] <cooldaddydoof> tip for everyone who doesn't know this;
[06:35] <papetowe> Is there a way to get photoshop on linux?
[06:35] <Kikkertje> hi, could someone tell me how to play mp3's and Dvd's on ubuntu, i'm kinda new
[06:35] <Limulus> relak: you should have the ubuntu key by default; other keys are for other (trusted) sites
[06:35] <cooldaddydoof> NEVER install ubuntu , or nay OS onto a previouly occupied drive without low formatting first
[06:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> papetowe:  try gimp
[06:36] <Davey|Work> wooohoo, got my music back :D
[06:36] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, i thought i had to restart only when doing something big like kernel stuff...
[06:36] <Kikkertje> papetowe, use gimp
[06:36] <cooldaddydoof> ALSO NEVER upgrade and operating system if you can help it
[06:36] <mustard5> !tell Kikkertje about restricted
[06:36] <papetowe> id try it.. trying to install linux atm
[06:36] <Limulus> if you don't use those repositories, you don't need their keys (it just supresses a warning in synaptic)
[06:36] <cooldaddydoof> pescez restart
[06:36] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, ok brb
[06:36] <mustard5> Kikkertje, did ubotu send you a link?
[06:36] <Gnumannen> papetowe: you can not run it native in Linux, but you can use Wine
[06:36] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, thanks
[06:36] <Limulus> anyway, gotta go, sorry I can't stay!
[06:36] <Davey|Work> papetowe, I managed to get PS CS installed in Wine (Crossover office actually) but not CS2
[06:36] <Torakiky> anyone knows wich is the ubuntu channel for italian users?
[06:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> papetowe:  this cause you can install and run photoshop by wine, but is an old version. gimp has too many usefull things.
[06:36] <papetowe> supposably i have to partition my hd, and im downloading a partitioner now
[06:36] <mustard5> !it
[06:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:36] <papetowe> and what is wine?
[06:36] <pescez> Torakiky, if you fin it tell me... ciao :P
[06:37] <Davey|Work> papetowe, windows emulator
[06:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> papetowe:  wine is not a windws emulator
[06:37] <papetowe> ahh.
[06:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[06:37] <jjjjjjj> is anyone here running asterisk on *buntu?
[06:37] <Davey|Work> papetowe, Crossover office is a commercial variant, is a little better
[06:37] <Gnumannen> papetowe: papetowe for the user it is like an emulator, but it operates different
[06:37] <DavidHKMrPowers> do linux users have problems in view site dedicated for IE ?
[06:37] <DavidHKMrPowers> in viewing sites
[06:37] <papetowe> How do I put all of my files from windows onto linux if im dual booting
[06:38] <Davey|Work> papetowe, mount the drive
[06:38] <cooldaddydoof> DavidHKMrPowers d what sites?
[06:38] <cooldaddydoof> DavidHKMrPowers I will let you know
[06:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes, or try a third oartition, in VFAT, for read/write in both
[06:38] <jjjjjjj> davidhkmrpowers... I remember needing ie for some oem sites on microsoft
[06:39] <Gnumannen> I heard that you can get a mouse cursor in text-based mode, anyone know how?
[06:39] <mustard5> DavidHKMrPowers, you can run IE from wine, so strictly speaking no..but in a general sense..not everyone runs IE in wine :)
[06:39] <DavidHKMrPowers> cooldaddydoof : for some sites which cannot be viewed by firefox properly
[06:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> DavidHKMrPowers:  IE has problems with everyone...  8)
[06:39] <mustard5> DavidHKMrPowers, firefox also has a plugin for IE sites I believe
[06:39] <Edulix> hi !
[06:39] <cooldaddydoof> DavidHKMrPowers well you can always run internet explorer on linux
[06:39] <papetowe> ie tab
[06:39] <papetowe> i know this
[06:39] <Edulix> I've downloaded dapper4
[06:39] <relak> does anyone have a clue why it takes ages when booting ubuntu because of the network?
[06:39] <papetowe> Download the ie tab plugin
[06:40] <jjjjjjj> speaking of firefox.. how do i set my font size permanently?
[06:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> i think some problems is use of vbscript, for example...
[06:40] <newbuntie> what do I need to play wmv?
[06:40] <Edulix> dapperflight4-i386-install.iso, and the md5sum is correct
[06:40] <bur[n] er> papetowe: that doesn't work in linux :P
[06:40] <Thorondor> when i open a pdf file with xpdf i get ``Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct'' in the terminal - how can fix this?
[06:40] <jjjjjjj> it so small.... need big eyes
[06:40] <cooldaddydoof> OK guys I have a problem i cannot solve here
[06:40] <papetowe> haha, im dumb then
[06:40] <DavidHKMrPowers> thanks guys!
[06:40] <cooldaddydoof> I have 2 machines running ubuntu
[06:40] <cooldaddydoof> one an amd K7 the other P4
[06:40] <Edulix> but I've burned twice and checked twice the cd, and it always fails in libreiserfs
[06:40] <papetowe> I have 0 machines running ubuntu
[06:40] <Edulix> is it ok?
[06:40] <DavidHKMrPowers> I have -1 machines running ubuntu
[06:41] <cooldaddydoof> on the P4 xmms, nerolinux, mplayer , and eboard all have laterally compressed fonts
[06:41] <newbuntie> !wmv
[06:41] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:41] <Edulix> or even known? any problem with reiserfs in dapper flight 4?
[06:41] <Gnumannen> Edulix: does it hang, or do yu get an error?
[06:41] <DavidHKMrPowers> -1 because going to install it :)
[06:41] <tristan> !grub
[06:41] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:41] <moonunit> what is the defult root password of ubuntu?
[06:41] <moonunit> hoary that is
[06:41] <bur[n] er> moonunit: there isn't one
[06:42] <mustard5> moonunit, ubuntu uses sudo
[06:42] <cooldaddydoof> moonunit no default passwrd
[06:42] <bur[n] er> !tell moonunit about sudo
[06:42] <cooldaddydoof> you have to create it
[06:42] <bur[n] er> or not use root... and just use sudo instead
[06:42] <mustard5> cooldaddydoof, well you don't 'have' to create it :)
[06:42] <mustard5> cooldaddydoof, you can live quite happily without one ;)
[06:42] <Edulix> Gnumannen: when cheichking the cd integrity, which is an option in the cd, it says that the md5 for the deb libreiserfs isn't correct
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> !root
[06:42] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:42] <cooldaddydoof> mustard5 no but it it is real useful
[06:42] <moonunit> well what i want to do, i cant, because the drive is locked, the only way to unlock is via root
[06:42] <jjjjjjj> never mind.. found it
[06:43] <cooldaddydoof> moonunit sudo passwd root
[06:43] <GoDawgs> Hey guys... how do I see other XP computers on my home network so i can share files from my ubuntu box?
[06:43] <cooldaddydoof> put in your password then it iwll ask for UNIX password
[06:43] <mustard5> moonunit, what do you mean locked?  and what are you doing?
[06:43] <Gnumannen> Edulix: I have had som problems which reminds me of yours.
[06:43] <cooldaddydoof> moonunit that is "passwd" NOT password
[06:43] <Edulix> Gnumannen: my concern is that all my partitions are reiserfs
[06:44] <Gnumannen> Edulix: Okey, then it's quite a big problem.
[06:44] <tkroo> GoDawgs, System > Administration > Shared Folders
[06:44] <GoDawgs> tkroo:  thank yo u: )
[06:44] <tkroo> i'm trying to do the same
[06:44] <papetowe> How old are all of you?
[06:44] <Gnumannen> But Edulix, do you really ahve to use Dapper? After all it's just a beta.
[06:45] <Aragorn_Guardian> I need info in updating packages..I have a hoary box, but need update my postgres, here in 74.7. I found recent verision, is 8.0.6-i386.deb. can i update whith this one????
[06:45] <cooldaddydoof> My name should tell you my age
[06:45] <mustard5> papetowe, would you like the sum or our ages or the mean average?
[06:45] <Mordof> how do i set permissions for me and apache on 2 folders in my home dir???
[06:45] <papetowe> sum
[06:45] <Aragorn_Guardian> found in archive.ubuntu.com
[06:45] <midgard> can someone tell me the path of a boot initialization script? i need a command to run automatically everytime i turn on the pc.
[06:45] <moonunit> well, i have 3 drivesin this machine, one has my ubuntu install, one is common storage and the third had my windows xp pro on it, im almost out of space on my ubuntu drive, and i want access to my common one (which is mounted, so dont give me that crap)
[06:45] <Edulix> Gnumannen: of course, but betas are for testing purposes, that's what I was trying to do hehe
[06:45] <mustard5> papetowe, 42
[06:45] <cooldaddydoof> papetowe 52
[06:45] <Mordof> papetowe, 19
[06:45] <papetowe> I'm 14. :)
[06:45] <cooldaddydoof> papetowe nope 55
[06:45] <Gnumannen> Edulix: hehe, well, you have certainly found a bug ;)
[06:46] <midgard> can someone tell me the path of a boot initialization script? i need a command to run automatically everytime i turn on the pc...
[06:46] <mustard5> midgard, ummm...I know this...but I can't remember the right answer :)
[06:46] <bur[n] er> GoDawgs: alt+f2, smb://xpcomputername
[06:46] <chris_> midgarg :- look in /etc/rc5.d/
[06:46] <Edulix> I'll report it then
[06:46] <midgard> ok thnx :)
[06:46] <moonunit> cooldaddydoof ^
[06:47] <GoDawgs> bur[n] er:  cool... let me give that a shot
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> midgard,  what to use depends on what the command is to do exactly
[06:47] <mustard5> chris_, I was going to say rc2.d :)
[06:47] <cooldaddydoof> moonunit yes?
[06:47] <Edulix> Gnumannen: anyway, what problems did you have? you say that mine reminded you some problems
[06:47] <midgard> i just want to load a kernel module automatically
[06:47] <moonunit> read my last message
[06:47] <mustard5> chris_, what is rc5.d for compared to rc2.d?
[06:47] <moonunit> well here
[06:47] <moonunit> ill copy it to you
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> midgard,  put it in /etc/modules then
[06:47] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, you're great
[06:47] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, it works now
[06:47] <moonunit> cooldaddydoof, ell, i have 3 drivesin this machine, one has my ubuntu install, one is common storage and the third had my windows xp pro on it, im almost out of space on my ubuntu drive, and i want access to my common one (which is mounted, so dont give me that crap)
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> midgard,  thats what that file is for - modules to be autoloaded at boot time
[06:48] <midgard> i need to load a module and change its permissions also, a chmod
[06:48] <Gnumannen> Edulix: it was in 5.10 I think, or maybe even in Ubuntu, alot of packages during the installtion ere corrupted.
[06:48] <cooldaddydoof> moonunit OK no crap
[06:48] <B_166-ER-X> i'm not able to burn a .cue .bin, file with either K3b or gnomebaker ...could someone give me a hint ?
[06:48] <Gnumannen> *sry Debian
[06:48] <cooldaddydoof> did you get your root password?
[06:48] <Edulix> Gnumannen: and thus they didn't work ?
[06:48] <pescez> cooldaddydoof, now i go. thanks a lot
[06:48] <moonunit> cooldaddydoof, there mounted under /media, would that have anything to do with it?
[06:49] <Edulix> anyone with reiserfs partitons had problems with dapper flight 4?
[06:49] <cooldaddydoof> pescex No guy did it work?
[06:49] <Gnumannen> Edulix: Well, no. But I'm running 6.04 anyway now
[06:49] <chris_> Anyone any good with laptops?  I get a segmentation fault in the halt script when I try and power it off.  It's ok with reboot, just poweroff.
[06:49] <cooldaddydoof> mooniunit possibly
[06:49] <cooldaddydoof> hold on
[06:49] <cooldaddydoof> pescex are you still here?
[06:49] <cooldaddydoof> pescez
[06:49] <dyrne> Edulix: submit lots of bug reports so it will be ready for me upgrade in april :)
[06:49] <scott> I am having problems with touchpad. takes 9 swipes to move mouse across screen.
[06:50] <moonunit> scott, mouse sensitivity
[06:50] <cooldaddydoof> Sorry all phone call could mean money be back
[06:50] <mustard5> moonunit, what stuff do you want to move to common storage?
[06:50] <Edulix> dyrne: lol ok
[06:50] <scott> tried that, no success.
[06:50] <moonunit> i want to install wolfenstein: ET on the common storage
[06:50] <moonunit> mustard5 ^
[06:51] <mustard5> moonunit, so the common storage is fat32?
[06:51] <chris_> Anyone any good with laptops?  I get a segmentation fault in the halt script when I try and power it off.  It's ok with reboot, just poweroff.
[06:51] <moonunit> mustard5, my windoze and common are bout F32, yes.
[06:51] <christian> i cant start bum "another bum is running, or  the file: /var/lock/bum remains locked!"
[06:51] <robinl1> You are a total dick.
[06:51] <robinl1> No doubt.
[06:51] <moonunit> both***
[06:51] <robinl1> No brains on the world anymore.. *sigh*
[06:51] <robinl1> all taken by tah blah gang.
[06:52] <mustard5> robinl1, watch the language please
[06:52] <robinl1> hopeless :(
[06:52] <robinl1> haha, sorry
[06:52] <christian> your bad
[06:52] <robinl1> i'm just in for some humor :P
[06:52] <christian> i cant start bum "another bum is running, or  the file: /var/lock/bum remains locked!
[06:52] <christian> eh?
[06:52] <moonunit> mustard5, when i go into properties on the drives, it tells me that file owner is root.
[06:53] <chris_> Anyone any good with laptops?  I get a segmentation fault in the halt script when I try and power it off.  It's ok with reboot, just poweroff.
[06:53] <julianR> hi: something's happened to my gnome session, so that when I log in it sticks on "Panel" - any ideas?
[06:53] <mustard5> moonunit, you have this all set up to mount in /etc/fstab at bootup I take it?
[06:53] <moonunit> mustard5, no, there mounted under /media/
[06:53] <Davey|Work> OK, I'm apparently all upgraded to Breezy :D
[06:53] <mustard5> moonunit, ok but did you mount them using fstab or manually mount them yourself?
[06:54] <Davey|Work> how best to tell if I made a complete upgrade? :0
[06:54] <moonunit> fstab
[06:54] <moonunit> mustard5, fstab
[06:54] <julianR> works with a different user, and works if I erase every file in my home dir... so it must be some file in /home/user.. causing the problem
[06:54] <mustard5> moonunit, the one issue that is worrying me is that i believe fat32 won't remember permissions
[06:54] <mustard5> moonunit, I wonder how that is going to effect the install
[06:55] <chris_> julianR:- looks like you found the problem.  try looking at your dot files relating to gnome and delete them one by one til it works.
[06:55] <dyrne> Davey|Work: well to just check version you can lsb_release -a
[06:55] <jadrifter> Good Morning.  I'm trying to script a way to see what updates are available with apt.   Is there a command that just shows packages that can be updated without installing apt-show-versions?
[06:55] <julianR> chris_: that's what I'm trying
[06:55] <moonunit> mustard5, is there another format that i could reformat that drive into, that both windoze and ubuntu could see?
[06:55] <Gnumannen> How do I write a vertical line in Ubuntu (the looking like "l")?
[06:55] <christian> i cant start bum "another bum is running, or  the file: /var/lock/bum remains locked!
[06:55] <christian> what doe it mean?
[06:55] <julianR> nothing seems to be working... I was just hopeful someone could give me a hint
[06:55] <GoDawgs> you know what... I can't get past the authentication dialog
[06:55] <GoDawgs> errr
[06:55] <mustard5> moonunit, no...but you might be able to shrink the partition maybe?  there are inherent risks in that of course..
[06:55] <GoDawgs> i don't have a password for it
[06:55] <dyrne> Gnumannen: you mean pipe | ?
[06:55] <julianR> as there are a lot of . files in there; I tried the obvious ones .ICEauthority, .gnome, .gconf
[06:56] <mustard5> moonunit, make more room on your linux partition?
[06:56] <moonunit> mustard5, i dont need any of the data on the disc
[06:56] <Davey|Work> awesome! :D
[06:56] <christian> what is the mount command for floppy
[06:56] <Gnumannen> dyrne: Yes, think so
[06:56] <moonunit> mustard5, i cant, the partition is already all of the disc
[06:56] <dyrne> Gnumannen: most keyboards shift-backslash key
[06:56] <julianR> in .xsession_errors I get: _IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[06:56] <mustard5> moonunit, ah ok
[06:56] <mustard5> moonunit, ok..so the common partition ..how big is that?
[06:56] <moonunit> mustard5, its all much clearer to you now
[06:56] <chris_> Anyone any good with laptops?  I get a segmentation fault in the halt script when I try and power it off.  It's ok with reboot, just poweroff.
[06:56] <julianR> which googling for it someone suggested problems with .ICEauthority, but that's not sorted it for me
[06:56] <GoDawgs> guys... do i need to set a password for the samba share?  if so, where do I do it?
[06:57] <GoDawgs> nalioth:  hey sweetie :)
[06:57] <moonunit> mustard5, the common partition is 20gb, all of the drive
[06:57] <makaveli> Can i convert windoze NTFS to ext3 without loosing data
[06:57] <Gnumannen> dyrne: hm, not on mine.
[06:57] <kenas> Problems Accessing Network
[06:57] <jadrifter> makaveli: No
[06:57] <mustard5> moonunit, I'm getting the picture now...3 drives :)
[06:57] <chris_> makaveli: no
[06:57] <dyrne> Gnumannen: it might look like two vert lines one atop the other..
[06:57] <moonunit> mustard5, yes.
[06:57] <mustard5> moonunit, ok..so you could split the common partition into two partitions
[06:58] <mustard5> moonunit, leave part as fat32 and the rest as ext3
[06:58] <moonunit> mustard5, you could walk me through it too!
[06:58] <LoRd-Phr3x> Hi, who was that guy who posted his Dapper Drake repositories in paste bin earlier for me?
[06:58] <mustard5> moonunit, hehe..well not really :)
[06:58] <Gnumannen> dyrne: lol ok, then I had the right one all the time
[06:58] <Gnumannen> dyrne: Thank you :)
[06:58] <mustard5> moonunit, I'm not too experienced at it myself :)
[06:58] <GoDawgs> nevermind... i figured it out...
[06:58] <mustard5> moonunit, you could fiddle with gparted though
[06:58] <moonunit> what is that?
[06:58] <LoRd-Phr3x> mine won't update properly, i kept getting 404's, all the links were dead
[06:59] <mustard5> moonunit, thats the linux partitioning tool for gnome
[06:59] <mustard5> moonunit, you can install via synaptic
[06:59] <godzirra> heya guys...  Everytime I send an email it shows as coming from localhost.localdomain
[06:59] <godzirra> how do I fix that?
[06:59] <chris_> I take it nobody knows anything about my shutdown problem? :(
[06:59] <moonunit> mustard5, install what via synaptic?
[06:59] <mustard5> moonunit, gparted
[06:59] <mustard5> moonunit, a partitioning tool
[07:00] <LoRd-Phr3x> nvm
[07:00] <warpzone> pardon, I've mounted a windows hard drive using ntfs, set the owner and chmod'ed to all read/write, yet I kee getting "permission denied" when I try to access it
[07:00] <LoRd-Phr3x> =)
[07:00] <warpzone> anybody have a few mins to help?
[07:00] <dyrne> mmm tacos
[07:00] <GoDawgs> thanks for everyone's help... have to go fix a file now :)
[07:00] <GoDawgs> take it easy
[07:00] <julianR> chris_: I run ubuntu on laptop, never seen that I'm afraid
[07:00] <makaveli> can i somehow use ntfs to save linux data on it?
[07:00] <mustard5> makaveli, no
[07:00] <chris_> warpzone: ntfs is read only in linux.  read write support is extremely experimental
[07:01] <mustard5> makaveli, linux can't practically write to ntfs atm
[07:01] <moonunit> how do i do this again?
[07:01] <christian_> how to mount floppy in termnial
[07:01] <makaveli> mustard5,  then whats the solution ?
[07:01] <mustard5> moonunit, sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:01] <mustard5> makaveli, use a fat32 partition
[07:01] <makaveli> i dont wanna erase all data on ntfs
[07:01] <thenuke> christian_: mount floppy might work
[07:01] <godzirra> Anyone know?
[07:01] <chris_> julianR: Thanks
[07:02] <thenuke> christian_: or mount fd0
[07:02] <warpzone> chris_: should I chmod them all to read only? Could that be causing an error to make it inaccessible?
[07:02] <christian_> it says its not found
[07:02] <mustard5> moonunit, you would need to umount the drive you are going to partition as well..what is on it now?
[07:03] <chris_> julianR: Happens every time i shutdown, with breezy and drake
[07:03] <purpleheart_USMC> how do i upgrade from dapper flight 3 to flight 4?
[07:03] <thelsdj> i tend to reinstall systems a lot and need to remove old fingerprints from ~/.ssh/known_hosts but in ubuntu they are so garbled that i can't tell which is which, is there an sshd_config option i can change to disable this behavior?
[07:03] <christian_> how do i install xfce?
[07:03] <nalioth> howdy
[07:04] <bur[n] er> purpleheart_USMC: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:04] <godzirra> heya guys...  Everytime I send an email it shows as coming from localhost.localdomain.  How do I fix that?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> christian_,  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for the FULL xfce4 desktop.
[07:04] <bur[n] er> christian_: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop is ideal... it installs xfce4 and extras
[07:04] <julianR> chris_: what sort of laptop?
[07:04] <chris_> warpzone: I get the same here.  Do a sudo bash then try to go into your mount point, can you see the files now?
[07:04] <bur[n] er> godzirra: elaborate
[07:04] <relak> i installed XMMS but it does not play MP3's ? if i type in console: "apt-get install gstreamer0.9-misc" i get "could not find the packet"
[07:05] <bur[n] er> relak: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[07:05] <chris_> julianR: NEC Versa S260.  I think it might be something to do with ACPI/APM but don't really know where to start
[07:05] <christian_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:05] <christian_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:05] <relak> bur[n] er same happens then
[07:05] <christian_> when i try to get xubuntu
[07:05] <godzirra> bur[n] er: I send out an email via ascript that access sendmail.  I tell it the from address, but if you check the headers, it still lists them as coming from localhost.localdomain
[07:05] <mustard5> christian_, close synaptic?
[07:05] <julianR> chris_: sounds like it - probably to do with the acpi command to power off
[07:06] <vitor4130> hi everyone! i just installed skype but i can t make any calls even thou i bought credit.any clues why?
[07:06] <bur[n] er> godzirra: change your sendmail config?
[07:06] <julianR> chris_: I doubt I can be much help really - probably best just to file bug against dapper
[07:06] <bur[n] er> relak: have universe repos?  breezy or dapper?
[07:06] <mustard5> vitor4130, sounds like a question for the skype support people really
[07:06] <julianR> chris_R: is there a page for your laptop on the wiki?
[07:06] <chris_> julianR: thanks anyway
[07:06] <moonunit> mustard5, Root privileges are required for running GParted
[07:06] <moonunit> Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.
[07:06] <papetowe> I got the partitioner downloaded. Anyone wanna walk me through this?
[07:06] <bur[n] er> chris_: check the laptop testing wiki page?  maybe someone has the same laptop and a workaround
[07:06] <edward0> moonunit: haha
[07:06] <chris_> julianR: Not found it on there.
[07:07] <moonunit> i sudo'd it
[07:07] <vitor4130> i guess     just deciced to try it here anyway!
[07:07] <bur[n] er> papetowe: just create a swap of about 512 Megs, and an ext3 for /
[07:07] <warpzone> chris_: yeah, I can get in as root. Is there a special way I have to set permission for ntfs?
[07:07] <mustard5> moonunit, did you try running it from the menus?
[07:07] <chris_> warpzone: hang on i'll try it on mine
[07:07] <relak> bu[n]  i think yes, breezy
[07:07] <bur[n] er> warpzone: it's in your /etc/fstab
[07:07] <warpzone> chris_: cool, thanks for the help man
[07:07] <papetowe> ugh
[07:07] <mustard5> moonunit, it should be under applications>>system tools  irrc
[07:07] <bur[n] er> relak: double check :P
[07:08] <moonunit> mustard5, it is
[07:08] <bur[n] er> relak: try "tab-completion" in irc by typing "bur<tab>" next time;)
[07:08] <christian_> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <christian_>  got it done
[07:08] <mustard5> moonunit, enter your user password when it prompts
[07:08] <warpzone> burner: my fstab line looks like this "/dev/hdb1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    defaults        1       1
[07:08] <relak> bur[n] er,  cool
[07:08] <moonunit> i know
[07:09] <relak> i wondered how you copy and paste the nick ...
[07:09] <papetowe> im ..a.. screwed
[07:09] <christian_> should it be faster than gnome on my old pc?
[07:09] <moonunit> mustard5, it wont let me do anything
[07:09] <bur[n] er> warpzone: try adding defaults,user ?
[07:09] <christian_> i know how to set the xfce gui.... lol
[07:09] <papetowe> What is an iso file?
[07:09] <mustard5> moonunit, have you umounted the device you want to partition?
[07:10] <papetowe> Why does my winRAr extract the live cd
[07:10] <mustard5> moonunit, you can't partition it if its mounted
[07:10] <bur[n] er> papetowe: because you asked it to?
[07:10] <moonunit> mustard5, i realised that, im trying to unmount it
[07:10] <bur[n] er> an .iso is a cd image... burn with a cd burning app
[07:10] <Kr4t05> carpediem: You wanna try at fixing up xorg again?
[07:10] <papetowe> Lol. Never "asked" it to
[07:10] <moonunit> says its buisy
[07:10] <papetowe> I clicked on it
[07:10] <christian_> i cant get the BUM to work
[07:10] <Kr4t05> carpediem: I got it back to default
[07:10] <bur[n] er> papetowe: you sound like a winrar warezing kinda person... so i'll assume nero... file -> burn image
[07:10] <derek_> hi
[07:11] <mustard5> moonunit,  try sudo umount /media/whateveryoucallit
[07:11] <thegladiator> whats the problem with BUM ?
[07:11] <bur[n] er> papetowe: you have .iso associated with winrar
[07:11] <derek_> Why doesn't the Totem movie player play the VCD?
[07:11] <moonunit> will do
[07:11] <bur[n] er> papetowe: right click -> open with... nero
[07:11] <relak> bur[n] er, thats what my file look like http://pastebin.com/564731
[07:11] <warpzone> bur[n] er: changed it to defaults,user, still getting permission denied :(
[07:11] <papetowe> yeah, my ubuntu i download is also in that format
[07:11] <thegladiator> derek_, i have had many problems I still have no clue!
[07:11] <papetowe> and i dont have "nero"
[07:11] <thegladiator> derek_, when you insert the cd does it play ?
[07:11] <chris_> warpzone: me too.  i can mount it now as myself but no access.
[07:11] <bur[n] er> warpzone: you have to unmount and remount the ntfs partition now
[07:11] <derek_> thegladiator, no
[07:11] <warpzone> bur[n] er: okie, giving it a shot
[07:12] <moonunit> mustard5, its buisy
[07:12] <thegladiator> derek_, do you have mplayer with you ?
[07:12] <bur[n] er> !iso
[07:12] <ubotu> I heard iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:12] <christian_> Another bum is running, or  the file: /var/lock/bum remains locked!
[07:12] <derek_> thegladiator, no, but I have VLC
[07:12] <mustard5> moonunit,  ok..try sudo umount /media/whatever -l
[07:12] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to get dual displays to work on nVidia in GNOME?
[07:12] <gnu2it2> anyone running flight-4?
[07:12] <derek_> thegladiator, its not playing the .dat files
[07:12] <mustard5> moonunit, note the -l at the end
[07:12] <thegladiator> derek_, I know I had big problems with this , can you install mplayer ?
[07:12] <moonunit> well, it didnt complain
[07:12] <mustard5> moonunit, k
[07:13] <mustard5> moonunit, you can type just mount to confirm
[07:13] <relak> bur[n] er,  :\
[07:13] <bur[n] er> !universe
[07:13] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:13] <derek_> thegladiator, hm.. i don't think I can at the moment.. (can't use the internet too much)
[07:13] <mustard5> moonunit, that will list mounted partitions..it should be absent now
[07:13] <bur[n] er> there you go relak, use those, and get gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:13] <thegladiator> derek_, try to get totem to play it like this
[07:13] <bur[n] er> libmad0 might not be a bad idea either relak
[07:13] <derek_> thegladiator, how?
[07:13] <thegladiator> derek_, totem vcd://2 or something
[07:14] <moonunit> well its unmounted, but i still cant touch that f32
[07:14] <christian_> Another bum is running, or  the file: /var/lock/bum remains locked!
[07:14] <thegladiator> wait let me check
[07:14] <christian_> bum error message
[07:14] <thegladiator> derek_, open totem
[07:14] <mustard5> moonunit,  have you refreshed gparted?
[07:14] <thegladiator> derek_, and click on file -> play cd
[07:14] <derek_> did
[07:14] <mustard5> moonunit, try loading it again
[07:14] <christian_> anyone?
[07:14] <thegladiator> derek_, play disk you tried ?
[07:14] <moonunit> yeah, i got it
[07:14] <papetowe> this is overwhelming
[07:15] <bur[n] er> papetowe: you check that wiki link?
[07:15] <derek_> thegladiator, I clicked 'Play Disc' ..didn't play
[07:15] <papetowe> I didnt see one
[07:15] <mustard5> moonunit, what is on this drive?  nothing important?
[07:15] <jimcooncat> christian_, bum isn't running for sure
[07:15] <newbuntie> if I want to install xine, what package do I install, gxine or xine-ui? or something else?
[07:15] <papetowe> This irc char is fast lol
[07:15] <jimcooncat> christian_, bum isn't running for sure?
[07:15] <moonunit> mustard5, yeah,
[07:15] <bur[n] er> papetowe: logging helps
[07:15] <derek_> papetowe, yes :)
[07:15] <christian_> dunno?
[07:15] <papetowe> pm me link?
[07:15] <bur[n] er> newbuntie: totem-xine :)
[07:15] <thelsdj> anyone know where gnome-window-decorator for compiz/xgl went?
[07:16] <cooldaddydoof> well i thought that phone call would bring money  fat chance
[07:16] <mustard5> moonunit, k..well you should be able to shrink the current partition..and then make a new ext3 partition
[07:16] <Caius> how do I stop ubuntu (ppc) setting the software clock from the hardware clock? It just hangs there on boot and ^-C doesn't do anything
[07:16] <fangorious> how does one edit gnome-session startup programs from a terminal?
[07:16] <moonunit> yep
[07:16] <thegladiator> derek_,what with VLC ?
[07:16] <jimcooncat> christian_, you can find out with system monitor or "pstree" in the console
[07:16] <newbuntie> bur/ but then I have to uninstall the gstreamer version of totem?
[07:16] <derek_> it doesn't play the .dat files either thegladiator
[07:16] <morphix> how do i set a background in openbox?
[07:16] <chris_> warpzone: ok unmount, edit /etc/fstab, add users,ro,umask=000 to the line where it said defaults.
[07:17] <morphix> fbsetbg with feh installed doesnt wanna work
[07:17] <bur[n] er> morphix: feh, esetroot, chbg, etc.
[07:17] <christian_> Bum isnt running
[07:17] <cooldaddydoof> I have laterally compressed fonts in xmms, mplayer, eboard, and nerolinux
[07:17] <bur[n] er> morphix: define, doesn't wanna work
[07:17] <cooldaddydoof> on a P4 system
[07:17] <bur[n] er> that's great cooldaddydoof
[07:17] <warpzone> chris_:will do, see if it works :-P
[07:18] <christian_> i'll be back gonna start xfce
[07:18] <morphix> gives me a imlib loader error
[07:18] <cooldaddydoof> but[n] ler no it is not
[07:18] <thegladiator> derek_, lmplayer is not big ..some 5 mb I gues
[07:18] <bur[n] er> !tell papetowe about iso
[07:18] <jimcooncat> christian_, why not just delete the lock file then?
[07:18] <cooldaddydoof> I need to figure why it is that way on one machine and not the other
[07:18] <moonunit> mustard5, it wont do it
[07:18] <thegladiator> lemm try something with totem
[07:18] <derek_> thegladiator, so you only got the vcd playing using mplayer?
[07:18] <bur[n] er> cooldaddydoof: good luck, i don't even know what laterally compressed fonts means
[07:19] <thegladiator> derek_, for me totem plays it when I insert the VCD , cant open it though as you said ...it doesnt respond
[07:19] <cooldaddydoof> bur[n] ler weell it is like pushing the letters upgaainst eachother from side to side
[07:19] <thegladiator> derek_, with mplayer also I have to use the command line
[07:19] <thegladiator> none cared to fix this for me since most ppl are using DVD
[07:19] <cooldaddydoof> bur[n] ler until they cannot be read
[07:19] <mustard5> moonunit, what does it do?
[07:20] <derek_> thegladiator, i see
[07:20] <thegladiator> derek_, do this
[07:20] <moonunit> mustard5, error while creatind /dev/hdc2
[07:20] <warpzone> chris: damn, still no go.
[07:20] <thegladiator> derek_, totem vcd:// device name
[07:20] <thegladiator> subsittute the device name with ur cd device name ...like /dev/hdd for eg
[07:20] <Caius> is there anyway to reset a password on ubuntu.  I only have one account and can't remember the password for it
[07:20] <mustard5> moonunit, hmm ok
[07:20] <derek_> thegladiator, like totem vcd:// /cdrom
[07:20] <thegladiator> do you know your cd rom device name ?
[07:20] <Caius> im not logged in yet
[07:20] <derek_> ?
[07:20] <chris_> warpzone: paste me the whole line from /etc/fstab
[07:21] <mustard5> moonunit, well maybe we should run fsck on the drive..to check for errors
[07:21] <warpzone> roger
[07:21] <godzirra> bur[n] er: Ok, the "Recieved from" works, but the return path still says user@localhost.localdomain no matter what I do.
[07:21] <thegladiator> yep
[07:21] <thegladiator> that shud also work since /cdrom is linked to /dev/hdc (ur cdrom )
[07:21] <derek_> Totem could not play 'vcd://'. There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "vcd://", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[07:21] <Caius> ah never mind, guessed the right user/pass at last
[07:22] <warpzone> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    defaults,users,ro,umask=000     1       1
[07:22] <derek_> ...
[07:22] <moonunit> mustard5, its good.
[07:22] <thegladiator> derek_, have you installde all the necessary codecs ?
[07:22] <jjjjjjj> can ya have 3 nics in your server?
[07:22] <fangorious> exit
[07:22] <derek_> thegladiator, no
[07:22] <thegladiator> derek_, and install totem-xine and not totem-gstreamer
[07:22] <mustard5> moonunit, its unmounted so it should be fine to run fsck on it
[07:22] <bur[n] er> godzirra: it's definately a sendmail option, i forget where... i use postfix these days :\
[07:22] <derek_> thegladiator, what's xine for?
[07:22] <mustard5> moonunit, fsck /dev/whateverthedevicenameis
[07:22] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell derek_ about codecs
[07:22] <chris_> warpzone: OK. remove the defaults, add owner and change the 1's to 0's
[07:23] <thegladiator> derek_, totem-xine is considered less buggy than totem gstreamer
[07:23] <mustard5> moonunit, might need sudo in front :)
[07:23] <moonunit> mustard5, i did, it said it was fine
[07:23] <thegladiator> I use totem-xine
[07:23] <thegladiator> !totem-xine
[07:23] <ubotu> somebody said totem-xine was like, totally, sudo apt-get install totem-xine. To play non-free formats, get the w32codecs. The instructions are at http://https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats section Codecs
[07:23] <mustard5> moonunit, bummer..I'm at a loss without it sitting in front of me
[07:23] <chris_> warpzone: mine looks like this /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    users,ro,owner,umask=000        0 0
[07:23] <derek_> k
[07:23] <mustard5> moonunit, not sure what the problem is
[07:24] <thegladiator> derek_, install those codecs that I said before and then install totem-xine , it will replace totem-gstreamer and hopefully you can play from the command line :)
[07:24] <mustard5> moonunit, ask a question to the channel on the problem
[07:24] <thegladiator> dont kow why it doesnt still work
[07:24] <thegladiator> from nautilus though
[07:24] <mustard5> moonunit, trying to create a new partition on drive with gparted..etc...
[07:24] <derek_> thegladiator, thx. ..this download again is like 5 mb.. i'm scared about the bill now.. this connection is expensive
[07:24] <warpzone> chris_: by "add owner" do you mena just write 'owner' in the options line or something different
[07:25] <godzirra> bur[n] er: I use postfix too.
[07:25] <edu> sex
[07:25] <christian> bum still doesnt start
[07:25] <derek_> i wonder why they didn't ship these codecs in the cd..
[07:25] <edu> sex
[07:25] <moonunit> ive got a problem with gparted, and making partitions, to anyone who wants to help
[07:25] <TokenBad> can someone tell me how to make a mp3link?
[07:25] <TokenBad> sorry
[07:25] <warpzone> chirs_:sorry, pretty damn new to linux
[07:25] <chris_> warpzone: like mine:- /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    users,ro,owner,umask=000        0 0
[07:25] <TokenBad> a symlink
[07:25] <thegladiator> derek_, u need net to configure ubuntu , try to swtich to a better ISP :)
[07:25] <chris_> warpzone: Steep learning curve mate.  Stick with it.  I'm still new too.
[07:25] <derek_> thegladiator, i'll have to
[07:25] <bSON> hi
[07:26] <derek_> thegladiator, ok thanks a lot =)
[07:26] <mustard5> moonunit, you used the pastebin before?
[07:26] <tbone> hello all
[07:26] <moonunit> yeah
[07:26] <thegladiator> np :>
[07:26] <mustard5> moonunit, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file please?
[07:26] <bSON> is there some way in ubuntu to change the opengl iplementation to the ATI one, like in gentoo with "opengl-update"?
[07:26] <papetowe> So i need to these on cds? (ubuntu and partioner)
[07:26] <thegladiator> yeah
[07:26] <moonunit> umm
[07:26] <thegladiator> and what about you ?
[07:26] <derek_> same
[07:27] <mustard5> moonunit, cat /etc/fstab
[07:27] <moonunit> mustard5, stand by, i may have it
[07:27] <alien9391> hi people, I'm having trouble with starting use of kylix under ubuntu. Anyone has experience?
[07:27] <derek_> you can send messages in pvt?
[07:27] <godzirra> bur[n] er: so any idea?
[07:27] <derek_> nick not reg'd?
[07:27] <thegladiator> lol I was thinking where on earth ...such bad internet other than india :)
[07:27] <tbone> hello kenas
[07:27] <derek_> thegladiator, lol ..
[07:27] <kenas> hi tbone
[07:27] <randabis> i wish you could pull up the channel list here
[07:27] <bur[n] er> godzirra: you said sendmail... one sec
[07:27] <kenas> still :S
[07:27] <mustard5> moonunit, http://help.ubuntu.com/    <<---pastebin link
[07:27] <mustard5> doh
[07:28] <moonunit> mustard5, how do i go about copyin this file to you?
[07:28] <randabis> sorry
[07:28] <mustard5> moonunit, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org   <<---pastebin link
[07:28] <kenas> how can i solve network configuration at a start ?
[07:28] <bur[n] er> godzirra: sudo vim /etc/postfix/main.cf
[07:28] <mustard5> moonunit, do a cat /etc/fstab   copy and paste in to the web URL above..hit send..then show me the new URL
[07:29] <papetowe> Do i have to put these things on cd? (ubuntu os, and partitioner)
[07:29] <bur[n] er> papetowe: you just burn the freakin iso
[07:29] <bur[n] er> papetowe: did you read the wiki?
[07:29] <chris_> warpzone: how you doing there?
[07:29] <godzirra> bur[n] er: I did, and I changed the hostname to ivalicemud.com
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> i suggest the program "Burn At Once" for burning ISO's under windows.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:29] <moonunit> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8970
[07:29] <godzirra> myhostname rather
[07:29] <bur[n] er> godzirra: restart postfix?
[07:30] <mustard5> moonunit, got it....
[07:30] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: ever see "micro cd burner"
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> bur[n] er,  nope. :P
[07:30] <mustard5> moonunit, ok so /dev/hdc1 is the common storage?
[07:31] <moonunit> mustard5, i think i have it
[07:31] <iceman> anyone know a good link for updates americas army 250 to 260 ? ?
[07:31] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: http://www.majorgeeks.com/SilentNight_Micro_CDDVDISOAudio_Burner_d4765.html
[07:31] <moonunit> but yea
[07:31] <warpzone> chrisI umount then mount, then chown, still permission denied for my user name :( anything else I might need to change besides fstab?
[07:31] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: no install needed :)
[07:31] <NRG88> i have downloaded a GTK2.0 style, how do i install it?
[07:31] <godzirra> already did.
[07:31] <picasso> hey, dumb question.. i have two ubuntu machines (with sshd enabled). how can i run X apps on one from the other, over SSH?
[07:31] <chris_> warpzone: no need to chown
[07:31] <NRG88> i have extracted it from the archive
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> warpzone,  you are chowning the mount point for a vfat partition?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> picasso,  ssh -X otehrmachine
[07:31] <mustard5> moonunit, I reckon your lines in fstab for your fat partitions are not the right settings for you to be able to use them properly
[07:31] <bur[n] er> NRG88: system -> preferences -> themes, drag'n'drop the gtk theme
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> then run the app.
[07:31] <picasso> k. thanks
[07:32] <tbone> kenas: can we chat directly? peer to peer?
[07:32] <iceman> NRG88 open themes and drag the compressed file into it
[07:32] <mustard5> moonunit, could be why you are having issues accessing it anyway
[07:32] <warpzone> DrWillis: ntfs, my old HD with windows on it, trying to get access to it as user instead of just root
[07:32] <moonunit> mustard5, i may have to bite my tounge here, but i think its working
[07:32] <chris_> warpzone: you can't change anything on this partition, just read the data.  You should be able to see the files now, as well as mount it as your user without the sudo
[07:32] <mustard5> moonunit, the gparted stuff?
[07:32] <moonunit> yeah
[07:32] <BrenIII> Could anyone tell me why I'm getting this error?  http://pastebin.ca/42234
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:32] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:33] <moonunit> mustard5, bear with me for a little longer
[07:33] <NRG88> hey, thanks :D
[07:33] <mustard5> moonunit, k
[07:33] <iceman> NRG88 np ;)
[07:33] <mustard5> moonunit, my dialup connection goes down in about 40 minutes ;)
[07:33] <orangizer> hola
[07:33] <mustard5> moonunit, thats our timelimit :P
[07:33] <orangizer> me han mandado un archivo pgp
[07:33] <moonunit> mustard5, ill try to hurry, in the mean time, get broadband, you slut
[07:33] <eldad> Hi everybody! I need help with a "terrible audio" problem of Breezy on an HP pavillion laptop
[07:33] <warpzone> chris_: can't even type ls /windows, get premission denied :-P
[07:34] <mustard5> moonunit, hehe..yeah..I wish. :)   It's just going 4:34 AM too
[07:34] <moonunit> mustard5, i got it
[07:34] <moonunit> three brand new  partitions
[07:34] <moonunit> on that one drive
[07:34] <ilba7r> where can i find the gnome control center
[07:35] <moonunit> an ext3, a swap, and a fat32
[07:35] <mustard5> moonunit, sounds goods...three?
[07:35] <chris_> warpzone: hmm, it works for me!
[07:35] <eldad> (help anyone?) Hi everybody! I need help with a "terrible audio" problem of Breezy on an HP pavillion laptop
[07:35] <relak> bur[n] er, it still can't find it...?
[07:35] <mustard5> moonunit, well you might need to add a new mountpoint now too for the new partition
[07:35] <moonunit> oaky
[07:35] <moonunit> how.
[07:35] <mustard5> moonunit, you will need to create a directory somewhere....
[07:35] <warpzone> well, I have to run for now, I'll read the wiki from DrWillis and chome back later. Thanks a bunch for the help chris_, bur[n[er, and Dr_Willis
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[07:35] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:36] <mustard5> moonunit, somewhere handy for the game you are going to install
[07:36] <mustard5> moonunit, in your /home folder somewhere?
[07:36] <Jormundgand> eldad: If the HP Pavilion laptop is anything like the HP Pavilion desktop I may be able to help.
[07:36] <iceman> anyone have a link to America's army 2.5 ... to 2.6 updates
[07:36] <[olli] > damnhil, i need a well supported laser printer (non-color) for ubuntu (linux)
[07:36] <warpzone> adios!
[07:36] <moonunit> mustard5, what are you talking about?
[07:36] <bur[n] er> relak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gstreamer0.8-mad&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[07:36] <bur[n] er> relak: it's in universe
[07:37] <mustard5> moonunit, well the partition needs to be mounted on a folder somewhere so you can view its contents
[07:37] <bur[n] er> maybe you didn't apt-get update after changing the repos?
[07:37] <chris_> Dr_Willis: You seem very knowledgable! any ideas with my laptop problem?  It seg faults when I shutdown.
[07:37] <chris_> warpzone: no probs mate
[07:37] <moonunit> mustard5, walk me through it
[07:37] <ilba7r> how can i add .lyx file type to nautilus os it will be reconized ?
[07:37] <godzirra> bur[n] er: any ideas?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> chris_,  apci/apic/lapic issue  - sounds like.   or are you using Dapper? :P
[07:37] <mustard5> moonunit, k...so what is the game again?
[07:38] <moonunit> well its gone now
[07:38] <eldad> Jormundgand, I'd love it if u can - I'm a newbie so I'm not sure what's the problem - sound sound terrible in ubuntu while no problem in XP
[07:38] <moonunit> it was the only thing on that drive that i needed
[07:38] <chris_> Dr_Willis: does the same with breezy and dapper.  thought it might be that.  Any ideas where i can start looking for this?
[07:38] <mustard5> moonunit, is it still on the fat32 partition?
[07:38] <moonunit> i want to mount up these partitons
[07:38] <mustard5> moonunit, k
[07:38] <moonunit> mustard5, i had to delete it to get the partitions to go
[07:38] <Jormundgand> eldad: when you say it sounds terrible, what do you mean?
[07:38] <bensode> Wow the MS implimentation of NFS really needs some documentation ...
[07:38] <mustard5> moonunit, roger
[07:38] <Gnumannen> Which package should I apt-get to get X11?
[07:38] <moonunit> it was, but not anymore
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> chris_,  googling for your laptop and 'linux' and see what otehrs have done. is the start i would do.
[07:39] <eldad> Jormundgand: as if there's some sort of distortion
[07:39] <bur[n] er> Gnumannen: xserver-xorg
[07:39] <mustard5> moonunit, well initially to see what the partitions are called...you could do a sudo fdisk -l
[07:39] <ilba7r> Gnumannen, xserver-xorg
[07:39] <Gnumannen> bur[n] er: Thanks
[07:39] <mustard5> moonunit, that will list all partitions
[07:39] <papetowe> If i install this on my laptop with the touch pad work?
[07:39] <Jormundgand> eldad: my first suggestion is always to kill esd and see how that changes things.
[07:39] <chris_> Dr_Willis: thanks.  Seems I'm the only person in the world who got this laptop :)
[07:39] <bur[n] er> papetowe: did for all 4 laptops I have
[07:39] <bensode> Is there a FAQ on how to contribute documentation to the ubuntu wiki?
[07:39] <khalil_> i am having problems getting my sound to work ,i have Intel motherboard ( 82801FB)
[07:39] <mustard5> moonunit, you can pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[07:40] <moonunit> mustard5, i think i may see those partions
[07:40] <mustard5> moonunit, gives me something to work with :)
[07:40] <eldad> Jormundgand: it starts right at the begining when Gnome logins
[07:40] <bur[n] er> bensode: just login and edit to change the wiki
[07:40] <lopsa> I got ubuntu linux on my old pc and i got apache on it with php and i got a domain hosted and the domain works but it points to the main directory in apache and i was wondering if anyone could help me with the virtualhost setting in apache conf to get the domain to point to malt directory
[07:40] <papetowe> Im having problems after problems
[07:40] <AntMaz> how do i mount my cd rom drive
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> chris_,  what one is it?
[07:40] <Jormundgand> eldad: so kill it and see if sound improves. If it improves, turn it off completely by unchecking software mixing in System>Preferences>Sound.
[07:40] <godzirra> bur[n] er: Do you know what else I need to change other than "myhostname" ?
[07:40] <sebastian> hey
[07:40] <chris_> Dr_Willis: NEC Versa S260
[07:40] <eldad> Jormundgand: trying...
[07:41] <bensode> bur[n] er, : Thanks maybe I can save someone the hair-pulling experience I just went through to get several ubuntu workstation to talk to a Windows based NFS server ... sheesh
[07:41] <bur[n] er> godzirra: honestly I don't... it's been years since I set it up
[07:41] <moonunit> ipastebin
[07:41] <sebastian> is anyone succesfully running initng with the new kernel 2.6.12-10?
[07:41] <bur[n] er> godzirra: dpkg-reconfigure postfix maybe?  follow hte prompts?
[07:41] <moonunit> !pastebin
[07:41] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:41] <godzirra> postfix?  Damn.  I wish my postfix ran for years without me touching it... lol
[07:41] <godzirra> k
[07:41] <lupz> hi.. xine tells me that xvid is an unknown codec
[07:41] <GTX> Guys, where are the dependies source
[07:41] <GTX> located
[07:41] <iceman> how do you run America's army ? anyon help
[07:41] <bur[n] er> !tell lupz about w32codecs
[07:41] <lupz> any hint on how do i solve ?
[07:42] <lupz> bur[n] er: i've that package installed
[07:42] <bur[n] er> then it works
[07:42] <bur[n] er> :)
[07:42] <GTX> where is the dependicy list located?
[07:42] <bur[n] er> lupz: what are you playing it with?
[07:42] <AntMaz> how do i mount my cd rom drive
[07:42] <lupz> bur[n] er: xine
[07:42] <bur[n] er> lupz: should work as long as w32codecs are installed properly
[07:42] <moonunit> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8971
[07:42] <bur[n] er> lupz: try totem-xine, xfmedia, mplayer?
[07:42] <mebaran151> I just installed dapper but I have two difficulties
[07:43] <mebaran151> the clock applet keeps crashing
[07:43] <mustard5> moonunit, got it
[07:43] <lupz> bur[n] er: i like xine.. not the others
[07:43] <mebaran151> and ... firefox wil not start
[07:43] <GTX> where is the dependicy list located?
[07:43] <bur[n] er> mebaran151: apt-get upgrade :)
[07:43] <mebaran151> ldd complains of an inconsistency
[07:43] <mebaran151> I am on 64 bits
[07:43] <bur[n] er> GTX: dependencies for what?
[07:43] <khalil_> i am having problems getting my sound to work ,i have Intel motherboard  with audio controller  82801FB
[07:43] <iceman> how to start america's army .... anyone help please
[07:43] <mebaran151> no upgrades available at the moment
[07:43] <bur[n] er> papetowe: it's not a shell file
[07:43] <mustard5> moonunit, can you join channel #kubuntu-offtopic please?  its quieter
[07:44] <mebaran151> and I kind of need firefox to file the bugreport, hehh
[07:44] <AntMaz> burner how do i get my cd-rom to work
[07:44] <bur[n] er> papetowe: it's a .msi file to install
[07:44] <GTX> bur[n] er, apt
[07:44] <bur[n] er> GTX: apt-cache show apt
[07:44] <_Uwo_> hi all. installed kernel 686 on my pentium m - nothing was different upon restart - how do i check which kernel i am running?
[07:44] <[olli] > which postscript printers are fully supported by ubuntu ?
[07:44] <eldad> Jormundgand: same-same...I'm afraid
[07:44] <Jormundgand> _Uwo_ - uname -a
[07:44] <[olli] > (i already read the hcl)
[07:44] <papetowe> the thing im using is a shell fell
[07:44] <bur[n] er> _Uwo_: uname -a
[07:44] <ablomen> iceman: try looking in /usr/games/
[07:44] <papetowe> file*
[07:44] <AntMaz> its not mounted so that doesnt work
[07:44] <Jormundgand> eldad: what's the sound chip in an HP Pavilion laptop?
[07:45] <AntMaz> how do i mount it
[07:45] <_Uwo_> tnx. running 686 :)
[07:45] <bur[n] er> AntMaz: it auto-mounts in gnome
[07:45] <eldad> Jormundgand: I'll b right back
[07:45] <GTX> bur[n] er,  it doesnt say where the url list
[07:45] <AntMaz> well for some reason it didnt
[07:45] <GTX> is located
[07:45] <GTX> ffs
[07:45] <Jormundgand> I cannot believe the nerve the GNOME team has.
[07:45] <iceman> ablomen it in my home folder, but command line to run it
[07:45] <crouchingMonkey> i got a grub error 21 and i cant boot into ubuntu (switched a HDD in the box)
[07:45] <bur[n] er>  /ignore Jormundgand
[07:45] <bur[n] er> doh
[07:46] <llODxCOll> haa
[07:46] <GTX> bur[n] er,  you know the source list
[07:46] <GTX> which apt-get uses!
[07:46] <GTX> I need to add some urls to it
[07:46] <Hso|Ubuntu> hi, everyone :O
[07:46] <Jormundgand> They refuse to have many features in Metacity and then tie important functionality like keycombos into it so it causes headaches for anyone who wants to use another windowing manager.
[07:46] <bur[n] er> GTX: oh... /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <thegladiator> hey Hso|Ubuntu
[07:46] <AntMaz> nevermind burner i guess it had a hard time reading the dvdrw but i ejected it the put it back in so it works now , im a dee dee dee
[07:46] <iceman> command line to run armyops ? to launch america's army .. anyone
[07:46] <Hso|Ubuntu> could someone possibly help me with a small problem i'm having, with the Terminal?
[07:47] <[olli] > bah, linux and printers
[07:47] <GTX> ta!
[07:47] <bur[n] er> AntMaz: :)  lol
[07:47] <willmc> Hso|Ubuntu: what problem
[07:47] <Hso|Ubuntu> it doesn't seem to accept my "root" password(that's the same pw i use to login with, right?)
[07:47] <willmc> Hso|Ubuntu Yes
[07:47] <_jason> Hso|Ubuntu: use sudo
[07:47] <bur[n] er> Hso|Ubuntu: no... there is no "root" password... but the "sudo" password is your password
[07:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hso|Ubuntu about sudo
[07:47] <mebaran151> could someone quickly do a bugreport for me on firefox for amd64
[07:48] <AntMaz> i know gaim has yahoo on it and yahoo has a unix version of yahoo but if i upgrade internet explorer through wine anyone think that i can run yahoo messenger through wine
[07:48] <mebaran151> ldd reports it wasn't linked correctly
[07:48] <Hso|Ubuntu> whoaz... LAG!
[07:48] <AntMaz> the unix version is like version 1.4
[07:48] <mike_> I'm having trouble with emacs21 loading on Ubuntu Breezy. The fonts all messed up. It looks like Im missing helveltica?
[07:48] <Hso|Ubuntu> _jason - what's "sudo" ?
[07:48] <llODxCOll> ubotu: tell Hso|Ubuntu what linux is
[07:48] <_jason> Hso|Ubuntu: read your private emssages from ubotu
[07:48] <bur[n] er> mebaran151: launchpad.net
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> upgrade internet explorer through wine - Egads.....
[07:49] <bsesser> super user do
[07:49] <bur[n] er> Hso|Ubuntu: check yer msgs from ubotu
[07:49] <Hso|Ubuntu> i've been using Ubuntu for about an hour, now lol *lots of experience...*
[07:49] <mebaran151> bur[n] er: I don't have a webbrowser
[07:49] <edward0> AntMaz: why use ubuntu if you  are going to do all that?
[07:49] <bsesser> or do as root
[07:49] <mebaran151> heh
[07:49] <AntMaz> anyone know how to pwn n00bs BOOM HEADSHOT BOOM HEADSHOT
[07:49] <ilba7r> how to make nautilus understand that .lyx files are associated with lyx ?
[07:49] <bur[n] er> mebaran151: get one ;)
[07:49] <papetowe> I'm gonna go crazy.. getting this damn partitioner
[07:49] <llODxCOll> bur[n] er: I don't have a webbrowser: you don't have a web browser???
[07:49] <bur[n] er> ilba7r: right click, properites, open with tab
[07:49] <ilba7r> bur[n] er, does not work
[07:49] <Evodawg> _jason:  could you send me that bot message on sudo
[07:49] <mebaran151> llODxCOll: firefox wasn't linked correctly
[07:49] <mebaran151> according to ldd
[07:49] <_jason> Evodawg: /msg ubotu sudo
[07:49] <llODxCOll> oh
[07:49] <ilba7r> bur[n] er, if you have it installed you will know what i mean
[07:49] <mebaran151> the magic number failed
[07:50] <papetowe> I burned the image to disk and its effed up
[07:50] <_jason> Evodawg: then you can ask him anything you want in private :)
[07:50] <mebaran151> I'm AMD64
[07:50] <bur[n] er> ilba7r: i know little about lyx... maybe it takes a command?  is lyx term based?
[07:50] <thegladiator> Evodawg, just type !sudo and u will get it
[07:50] <iceman> how do i execute a file
[07:50] <ilba7r> bur[n] er, is there any other way
[07:50] <madmancanuck> I got a problem installing Ubuntu on my desktop
[07:50] <Evodawg> ty
[07:50] <Hso|Ubuntu> bur[n] er,  - only just noticed... i seem to be heavily lagging...
[07:50] <thegladiator> that also I mean :)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> iceman,  carify that.
[07:50] <_jason> ilba7r: yes, one sec
[07:50] <bur[n] er> papetowe: define f'ed up
[07:50] <ilba7r> bur[n] er, nope it is a qt application
[07:50] <Evodawg> !sudo
[07:50] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:50] <AntMaz> cause i tried installing yahoo through wine but it didnt work cause it says that IE is version 5 so i installed it anyways and it didnt work
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> iceman,  chmod +x whatever, ./whatever  'is one way'
[07:50] <bur[n] er> ilba7r: qt apps work here, but whatever, good luck
[07:50] <Hso|Ubuntu> k..
[07:50] <JDahl> I need to run some prehistoric PEEL programming tools under DOS, and I thougth I'd give dosemu a try... is there no dosemu for AMD64? (I can't seem to find it)
[07:50] <ilba7r> bur[n] er, front end to latex.
[07:51] <edward0> AntMaz: why not use gaim or kopete?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> JDahl,  try 'dosbox'
[07:51] <AntMaz> and i refuse to use windows
[07:51] <eldad> Jormundgand: is this what u asked?  0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[07:51] <mike_> I can't find helvetica. I need it
[07:51] <iceman> iceman@icebox-64:~/armyops$ ./armyops
[07:51] <iceman> ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:51] <iceman> iceman@icebox-64:~/armyops$
[07:51] <llODxCOll> Evodawg: did you get my pm?
[07:51] <ilba7r> bur[n] er, it works but nautilus will not associate .lyx files with it no matter what i do
[07:51] <AntMaz> cause you cant send files
[07:51] <ilba7r> _jason, than you and waiting
[07:51] <iceman> How to fine and run americas army game ... anyone halp please
[07:51] <papetowe> ok, I download file. (Partitioner)  Its an iso file but its all extracted from winRAR. So i download an iso recorder..burn image to disk and its still all extracted
[07:51] <Eleaf> lol
[07:51] <khalil_> i am having problems getting my sound to work ,i have Intel motherboard  with audio controller  82801FB
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> iceburgh,  download it fromtheir web site and follow their docs?
[07:52] <llODxCOll> Evodawg: did you get my pm?
[07:52] <_jason> ilba7r: this is how I associated maple files to the .mw and .mws extenstions: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8188.  You have to edit /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml and then run sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime/
[07:52] <bur[n] er> iceman: http://www.google.com/search?q=america%27s+army+on+ubuntu&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[07:52] <madmancanuck> During the installation, when it's still under busy box, it is able to access the network card and the internet without a problem, when it actually boots to Ubuntu, I can't get it to work.  The network card shows up as a Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140, under lspci, but no matter what I try for modprobe it doesn't lock in
[07:52] <thegladiator> iceman, all I can say is lol :)
[07:52] <llODxCOll> Evodawg: did you get my pm?
[07:52] <ilba7r> ok than _jason
[07:52] <_tarball> I'm trying to get 'initng' working on my laptop but it doesn't complete properly.  Seems to get stuck when loading 'daemon/portmap', anyone else seen this problem?
[07:52] <llODxCOll> DONT USE INITG
[07:52] <AntMaz> i hate internet explorer but if i update it i think yahoo will work not sure though
[07:52] <llODxCOll> INITNG
[07:52] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: try just doing "sudo dhclient eth0" or eth1?
[07:52] <thegladiator> _tarball, dapper ?
[07:52] <thegladiator> i had some problems with INITNG as well
[07:53] <madmancanuck> ifconfig only shows lo
[07:53] <llODxCOll> INITNG MESSES WITH THE INIT SCRIPTS AND MESSES EVERYTHING UP
[07:53] <_tarball> thegladiator: breezy
[07:53] <thegladiator> it doesnt login to the X , goes to the shell
[07:53] <bur[n] er> AntMaz: again, why not use gaim or kopete?
[07:53] <papetowe> Well, looks like i'll be sticking to windows
[07:53] <Evodawg> llODxCOll:  I got it
[07:53] <llODxCOll> _tarball: DONT USE INITNG
[07:53] <_tarball> init still works ok it's just damn slow
[07:53] <papetowe> peace everyone.. have fun on linux lol
[07:53] <AntMaz> again cause you cant send files
[07:53] <_tarball> on a laptop
[07:53] <thegladiator> _tarball,fine no idea with the particular err , in my case I didnt get X working using InitNG
[07:54] <thegladiator> personally I didnt feel a big time diff after using InitNG
[07:54] <llODxCOll> i used initng and when i tried to go back to normal botting nothing working
[07:54] <khalil_> how do i reconfigure the sound
[07:54] <slvmchn> is compiling a realtime kernel difficult?
[07:54] <mike_> emacs wants helvetica and I can't give it to emacs. How can I fix?
[07:54] <willmc> slvmchn: dont bother
[07:54] <slvmchn> i've been reading http://ubuntustudio.org but i want to make sure
[07:54] <papetowe> The program wont burn the damn thing
[07:54] <slvmchn> willmc: i do a LOT of realtime audio/video stuff so i need it
[07:55] <willmc> slvmchn: oh, sorry!
[07:55] <mebaran151> anyone else on dapper having problems with the clock app
[07:55] <thegladiator> papetowe, what program are u using to burn an ISO ?
[07:55] <slvmchn> if i can get even a little lower latency it'll be worth it
[07:55] <_tarball> I can switch between to two fine but the system just seems to choke on portmap
[07:55] <slvmchn> why do you say not to bother willmc?
[07:55] <thegladiator> papetowe,googl has everything about burning ISO!
[07:55] <mebaran151> and Firefox dying because ldd is against?
[07:55] <slvmchn> willmc: is it really not that much of an improvement?
[07:55] <iceman> anyone have the irc link to america's army ?
[07:55] <papetowe> im going to try nero i guess
[07:56] <thegladiator> iceman, www.americaarmy.com
[07:56] <edward0> papetowe:  cdrecord foo.iso
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> 'burn at once' is good for burning iso under windows. :P
[07:56] <willmc> slvmchn: the Ubuntu kernel images are about as optimised as they can be, but if you want true power, maybe check out gentoo or something
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> iceman,  it was just on that forum link he posted
[07:56] <eldad> Jormundgand: I accidently closed... did u post anything since I posted the lspci output?
[07:56] <thegladiator> iceman, buddy boy this is #ubuntu for ubuntu help , ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> iceman,  google for   armyops250linux.run
[07:56] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er :  Apparently that worked.  Thanks, I guess I should look into my config files and figure out what I need to turn on so that it will automatically pick it up on boot
[07:57] <eldad> eldad tst
[07:57] <slvmchn> iceman, america's army sucks fucking ass, don't play that, just play enemy territory
[07:57] <eldad> eldad: tst
[07:57] <Hso|Ubuntu> question.. how do i /use/ the Terminal? -.-; i'm trying to install java by following the guide, it says type "su", then the root password, but i can't proceed :/
[07:57] <eldad> eldad, d
[07:57] <thegladiator> oh sorry thats a gamE ?
[07:57] <khalil_> can someone please tell me how do you reconfigure the sound on ubuntu breezy
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Hso|Ubuntu,
[07:57] <thegladiator> sorry then thought he was kidding around
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !java
[07:57] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:57] <slvmchn> khalil_: http://ubuntustudio.org
[07:57] <_jason> Hso|Ubuntu: you don't use su, didn't you read the sudo link?
[07:58] <ablomen> !tell Hso|Ubuntu about sudo
[07:58] <w32> !dapper
[07:58] <ubotu> dapper is, like, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[07:58] <ncp_> how do i install nvidia drivers on ubuntu?
[07:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell ncp_ about nvidia
[07:58] <llODxCOll> automatix
[07:58] <willmc> Hso|Ubuntu google on sudo
[07:58] <thegladiator> dapper is only  pre-release name ?
[07:58] <thegladiator> not official name after the release ?
[07:58] <eldad> Jormundgand: r u there?
[07:58] <llODxCOll> it's the official name
[07:58] <bur[n] er> thegladiator: no
[07:58] <bur[n] er> thegladiator: it's official... yeah
[07:59] <w32> edit sources. list and replace breezy w/ dapper to upgrade ? is that right ?
[07:59] <piromana> which config file does gnome-theme-manager edit? i need to edit it by hand, current theme choice makes all apps crash
[07:59] <thegladiator> confusing
[07:59] <thegladiator> ah :)
[07:59] <willmc> ncp_: go to www.nvidia.com and dload their drivers, or get them from the universe in apt
[07:59] <bur[n] er> piromana: gconf-editor... open that, go to metacity and/or gtk areas
[07:59] <slvmchn> ncp_: check the ubuntu wiki
[07:59] <slvmchn> ncp_: i got my nvidia card working through the wiki, it's not too bad
[08:00] <Al-Daja> where i can find decoders or codecs?
[08:00] <dyrne> ubotu: tell Al-Daja about restricted
[08:00] <w32> !upgrade
[08:00] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:01] <Hso|Ubuntu> no... i didn't read the link, i typed "sudo" into terminal, instead...
[08:01] <lowfi> Al-Daja: mplayer homepage
[08:01] <lupz> when i try to play an xvid i get "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins."
[08:01] <w32> !upgrade dapper
[08:01] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, w32
[08:01] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:  What config do I need to change so that it does a dhclient eth0 each time?
[08:01] <Hso|Ubuntu> as i said, i'm /new/ to Ubuntu >_<, and any other breed of linux
[08:01] <Hso|Ubuntu> i'm looking at it now, though
[08:01] <lupz> in totem-xine
[08:02] <iceman> shoot cannot run america's army .... help anyone ...
[08:02] <JoeLoute> Hi, how can i list my hard drives
[08:02] <NRG88> close
[08:02] <dyrne> JoeLoute: sudo fdisk -l
[08:02] <JDahl> Dr_Willis, thanks a lot! apart from wrong keyboard layout dosbox works fine.. some keys cannot be accessed though (I mean they're not just mapped to wrong keys)... have you tried running dosbox on a non-US keyboard?
[08:02] <edward0> any vlc .debs for ubuntu?
[08:03] <willmc> JoeLoute: ls /dev/hd*
[08:03] <lupz> when i try to play an xvid i get in totem-xine "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins."
[08:03] <willmc> that actually lists partitions
[08:03] <dyrne> !vlc
[08:03] <ubotu> methinks vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[08:03] <JoeLoute> dyrne, it doesn't display a thing
[08:03] <JoeLoute> am on live cd
[08:03] <willmc> lupz: w32codecs
[08:03] <dyrne> edward0: vlc is available to install via apt-get
[08:03] <willmc> (they are illegal in the USA)
[08:03] <lupz> ii  w32codecs           20050412-1plf4      All binary propriatary w32 codecs
[08:03] <piromana> bur[n] er: interesting tool - i'll log out/in to check if it works -thx
[08:03] <willmc> vlc is nice
[08:04] <edward0> oh
[08:04] <eldad> HELP NEEDED: audio output sounds terrible ubuntu (on an HP pavillion laptop) while no problem in XP
[08:04] <dyrne> JoeLoute: did you sudo ?
[08:04] <JoeLoute> yae yae am on root terminal
[08:04] <lupz> willmc: i've that installed
[08:04] <willmc> eldad: turn down PCM volume and raise master
[08:04] <dyrne> edward0: you might need to enable other repos though
[08:04] <willmc> PCM should be around 2/3
[08:05] <Siddhartha> yo people there
[08:05] <Siddhartha> im getting linux
[08:05] <Siddhartha> but i have a question
[08:05] <Siddhartha> what word processing program do u use in linux?
[08:05] <edward0> dyrne: yes which?
[08:05] <edward0> dyrne: I am running dapper
[08:05] <eldad> willmc: I think I've already trierd that but I'll try again
[08:05] <_jason> Siddhartha: open office writer or abi word are nice
[08:05] <Siddhartha> how do i get them
[08:06] <_jason> Siddhartha: you should have open office writer already
[08:06] <Siddhartha> i have never used linux before, so i have no idea what to do
[08:06] <_jason> Siddhartha: applications menu > office > writer
[08:06] <edward0> Siddhartha: openoffice.org
[08:06] <lowfi> how do i register my nick?
[08:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell lowfi about register
[08:06] <edward0> Siddhartha: it comes with ubuntu
[08:06] <dyrne> edward0: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list remove the comment # from all urls you will see a deb and deb-src universe url copy both and paste then change end of pasted urls from universe to multiverse save and type sudo apt-get update
[08:07] <edward0> dyrne: thank
[08:07] <edward0> s
[08:07] <dyrne> np
[08:07] <Siddhartha> what other office programs come with ubuntu?
[08:07] <Riddell> Siddhartha: koffice
[08:08] <NET||abuse> hi guys, i need help writing the grub setup to the mbr of my primary drive, i have a xp64 setup on my primary hd on sda, and i have ubuntu loaded onto hda
[08:08] <Panzerboy> hey all
[08:08] <AntMaz> how do you install wine
[08:08] <llODxCOll> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:08] <AntMaz> is it sudo wget-apt wine
[08:08] <Siddhartha> whats koffice?
[08:08] <ablomen> !tell AntMaz about wine
[08:08] <mark__> mustard5, it worked!
[08:08] <Siddhartha> dude im a total noob to linux i have no idea what these terms mean
[08:08] <eldad> willmc: much better, thanx a lot!  though I've heard better in XP, what else can b done?
[08:09] <Siddhartha> i have never used linux ever before
[08:09] <llODxCOll> lol
[08:09] <mustard5> mark__, yeah?
[08:09] <Siddhartha> is there a way i can use AOL internet on linux
[08:09] <llODxCOll> no
[08:09] <dyrne> NET||abuse: hda is set to boot in bios?
[08:09] <llODxCOll> use gaim
[08:09] <mark__> I can now dual boot to the second hd w/win 2k
[08:09] <NET||abuse> dyrne: yep
[08:09] <Hso|Ubuntu>  To run a program using sudo that normally is run as the user, such as gedit, go to Applications --> Run Application and enter gksudo gedit. <-- i don't see "Run Application" under the Applications menu :(
[08:09] <willmc> eldad: oh so much! are you running ALSA?
[08:09] <NET||abuse> dyrne: so ubuntu grub will write the grub loader to mdr of hda, soorrrryyyyyyy wait
[08:09] <mark__> I just copied and pasted the lines from your grub
[08:09] <llODxCOll> Siddhartha: use gaim not aim
[08:09] <mark__> yay!
[08:09] <NET||abuse> dyrne: sda is boot
[08:09] <dyrne> ok
[08:10] <mark__> 1000+ thx
[08:10] <_jason> Hso|Ubuntu: where did you read that? it needs to be changed.  Do it in accessories > terminal or press ALT+F2
[08:10] <NET||abuse> dyrne: basically sda is my sata drive, hda is my ide drive, so linux on ide, windows on sata which is boot
[08:10] <Siddhartha> what is GAIM?
[08:10] <bur[n] er> Siddhartha: gaim.sf.net
[08:10] <NET||abuse> so need to load grub onto sda to see my windows install on sda and the ubuntu install on hda
[08:10] <Siddhartha> whoever is sending me private messages stop because i cant reply to them
[08:10] <ablomen> Siddhartha: its a instant messaging client
[08:10] <piromana> bur[n] er / gconf-editor approach didnt work - i need to find the actual config file and edit it by hand, i think
[08:10] <ablomen> Siddhartha: supports aim, msn, yahoo etc
[08:10] <llODxCOll> Siddhartha: gaim is like the linux version of aim
[08:11] <_jason> Siddhartha: it is probably the bot giving you links to info
[08:11] <Siddhartha> is that a jabber client?... i downloadede it before
[08:11] <eldad> willmc: I've been trying to switch between alsa and oss b4 - hoping that would solve the problem. I also tried changing the MULTIMEDIA SELECTOR under SYSTEM MENU in GNOME
[08:11] <bur[n] er> piromana: gconf-editor works... all it does is edit said config file
[08:11] <Hso|Ubuntu> jason - on that rootsudo link -.-;
[08:11] <llODxCOll> yes its a jabber client
[08:11] <_jason> Hso|Ubuntu: k thanks, you got it now?
[08:11] <edward0> Siddhartha: gaim supports jabber
[08:11] <slvmchn> is it worth installing Wine for Half-Life? i really want to play Day Of Defeat, enemy territory is too fast for me
[08:11] <Siddhartha> i got it for windows xp
[08:11] <Siddhartha> alrite
[08:11] <relak> bur[n] er,  it still does not work :S it can not find "apt-get install gstreamer0.9-mad
[08:11] <relak> " what am i doing wrong?
[08:11] <edward0> slvmchn:  join a slow paced server :D
[08:11] <Siddhartha> but about office programs
[08:11] <slvmchn> hahahaha
[08:11] <Siddhartha> im a student
[08:11] <NET||abuse> slvmchn: never got half-life to work on wine, i'd get sedega
[08:12] <Siddhartha> and i need excel and word and that kind of stuff
[08:12] <slvmchn> cedega is pay though right?
[08:12] <edward0> slvmchn: or try aao
[08:12] <Siddhartha> someone said koffice
[08:12] <bur[n] er> relak: don't use 0.9 it's 0.8 :P
[08:12] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er: how would I fix my configuration so that I don't have to do an sudo dhclient eth0 everytime to get it working?
[08:12] <slvmchn> what's aao
[08:12] <Siddhartha> what is that
[08:12] <bur[n] er> relak: plus, i gave you a link to download it
[08:12] <Hso|Ubuntu> i'm not having much luck with the Terminal itself :( i typed in "su", pressed enter, typed in "Ubuntu" which is the root password(?), and then it tells me: Authentication failure :(
[08:12] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:12] <Siddhartha> yo how come im getting all these private messages
[08:12] <edward0> slvmchn: america's army operations
[08:12] <thelonecabbage> is there a simplified (GUI?) package building tool for deb files?  I've got a custom app that I have to keep updated on multiple servers and using deb might help keep them all upto date.
[08:12] <mark__> now I just have to get ubuntu to burn cd-r w/my iomega zipcd
[08:12] <dyrne> NET||abuse: try sudo grub then at grub> typel root (hd0,0) then enter then setup (sd0)
[08:12] <Siddhartha> why cant whoever talk in the main forum thing
[08:12] <Siddhartha> im not registered
[08:12] <Siddhartha> how do i register
[08:12] <Hso|Ubuntu> jason - yeah, i've looking at the terminal for a few minutes, but using it is proving to be... tricky
[08:12] <Cryptid> I've Seen some ppl who have transparent Terminal Windows how do i make my terminal tranparent??????
[08:12] <bur[n] er> Siddhartha: register
[08:12] <slvmchn> noooooooo america's army sucks!!! i hate that game, i played it once after downloading and installing it, and was like wtf waste of time
[08:12] <piromana> bur[n] er - well, it didnt work here - maybe i chose a wrong theme name - can you tell me aname to choose to get it going - as it is gnome won't start at all (i am in KDE now)
[08:12] <edward0> slvmchn:  there are also mods for et like tc:e www.truecombat.com
[08:13] <dyrne> NET||abuse: assuming hda1 is ubuntu partition
[08:13] <_jason> Hso|Ubuntu: no, you don't use su.  You precede commands with sudo to do admin stuff.  For example: 'sudo echo hi'
[08:13] <Hso|Ubuntu> i'm looking **
[08:13] <relak> bur[n] er,  you are right
[08:13] <bur[n] er> piromana: clearlooks
[08:13] <piromana> buuuur[n] er: all lowqer case?
[08:13] <bur[n] er> relak: i know ;)
[08:13] <bur[n] er> piromana: Clearlooks maybe
[08:13] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:13] <NET||abuse> dyrne: hmm, i maybe got this wrong
[08:13] <skunk_eyed> yo people, i installed language-pack-fr and expected to get french spell-check in OO.o Was I wrong to expect this?
[08:13] <skyrat> Greetings
[08:14] <skunk_eyed> because i cannot find french under spell check
[08:14] <mark__> anyone know how to get a cd burner to work? ubuntu 5.04 recognizes the drive, but doesn't recognize a blank disc when I load it
[08:14] <relak> bur[n] er,  it works :) uhh nice
[08:14] <Siddhartha> how the hell do i register?????????????????????????????????????????
[08:14] <dyrne> mark__: sudo apt-get install k3b then sudo k3b
[08:14] <skunk_eyed> register where Siddhartha?
[08:14] <NET||abuse> dyrne: just finished install, double checking drive names
[08:14] <Siddhartha> becuase when i private message
[08:14] <ablomen> skunk_eyed: you should look in prefences for that (of oo.o
[08:14] <mark__> dyrne, k, thx
[08:14] <Siddhartha> it says i need to regisetere
[08:14] <green_earz> NET||abuse: hava a look at the link, its for a software raid setup but it should give a idear of whats going on when you want to place grub into the mbr >http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2003-July/008898.html
[08:15] <Siddhartha> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[08:15] <Siddhartha> i got it
[08:15] <Cryptid> How do i make key board shortcuts to execute programs?????????
[08:15] <eldad> willmc: r u still there?
[08:15] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:   mapping hotplug
[08:15] <AntMaz> got a problem W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://www.grawert.net warty/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.grawert.net_ubuntu_dists_warty_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[08:16] <skunk_eyed> do /msg nickserv register [password]    also, in xchat server list, for freendoe (or ubuntu sevrs, depending on which you use) set nickserv pass you just reged with (go to edit...) Siddhartha
[08:16] <Siddhartha> yo i need hell help
[08:16] <mark__> dyrne, what do all those packages do? do I need all of them?
[08:16] <thelonecabbage> is their a GUI deb package builder under ubuntu?
[08:16] <captainigloo> Hi guys I have some problems with 2.6.15 and Ipod on Dapper
[08:16] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:   mapping hotplug (nl) script grep (nl) map eth0 (nl)  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:16] <w32> !TCL
[08:16] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, w32
[08:16] <relak> bur[n] er, now you need to tell me how i get mpg and avi videos working :)
[08:16] <dyrne> mark__: k3b is a kde app it has some dependancies to download but it is best burner
[08:17] <Siddhartha> someone took my nickname!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:17] <edward0> Siddhartha: register it :)
[08:17] <Siddhartha> but it says someone took my nickname
[08:17] <edward0> dyrne: :( no vlc in dapper
[08:17] <ilba7r> _jason, thanks worked like a charm. Turned out it is already there but did not have application infront of it
[08:17] <skunk_eyed> ablomen, where in the prefs? i cannot find a valid option
[08:17] <Siddhartha> edward
[08:17] <_jason> ilba7r: ah
[08:17] <tiede> anybody having problems with automatix?
[08:17] <ilba7r> _jason, is there a way to set an icon associated with lyx file too
[08:17] <Siddhartha> it says someone took my nickname
[08:17] <mark__> dyrne, will it work in gnome?
[08:17] <Siddhartha> soi have to change my nickname?
[08:17] <Cryptid> !keyboard
[08:17] <ubotu> Cryptid: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:17] <dyrne> mark__: yes
[08:18] <mark__> dyrne, thx
[08:18] <cycom> edward0: dyrne, No VLC in dapper?
[08:18] <Cryptid> !shortcuts
[08:18] <skunk_eyed> !shortcuts
[08:18] <Siddhartha> dude
[08:18] <tiede> It just hangs and tell me this:
[08:18] <Siddhartha> anyone
[08:18] <tiede> gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[08:18] <tiede> gpg: keyserver timed out
[08:18] <tiede> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[08:18] <tiede> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
[08:18] <tiede> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[08:18] <tiede> gpg: requesting key DD4D5088 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[08:18] <dyrne> edward0: it is in repos
[08:18] <Siddhartha> what do i do to change my nickname
[08:18] <edward0> dyrne:  I uncommented universe and changed to multiverse
[08:18] <Siddhartha> is tere anyone out ther who is going to help me
[08:18] <_jason> ilba7r: don't know, try to look at the rest of the file or google freedesktop.org
[08:18] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:   mapping hotplug (nl) script grep (nl) map eth0 (nl)  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:18] <NET||abuse> ls
[08:18] <bur[n] er> edward0: u need universe and multiverse
[08:18] <dyrne> edward0: you need both universe and multiverse make sure you have one of each
[08:18] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: ?
[08:19] <Siddhartha> im trying to freaking register but goddamn my nickname taken and i dunno what to do
[08:19] <eikenberry> Siddhartha. nick command.
[08:19] <madmancanuck> that's my /etc/network/interfaces
[08:19] <dyrne> edward0: apt-cache search vlc doesnt show anything?
[08:19] <madmancanuck> it looks right to me, so I'm not sure what I'm not seeing
[08:19] <Siddhartha> what the hell is nick command
[08:19] <eikenberry> Changes you nickname.
[08:19] <ilba7r> looked at the file will google it thank you for putting me on the right track. it should be included in gnome though an easy way to set it up
[08:19] <ilba7r> bye now
[08:19] <Siddhartha> and how the hell do i use it
[08:19] <bur[n] er> !tell relak about RestrictedFormats
[08:19] <Panzerboy> Siddhartha: go read a bit about irc
[08:19] <madmancanuck> (nl) is a new line
[08:19] <skunk_eyed> Siddhartha, change nick
[08:19] <eikenberry> like /NICK [newnick] 
[08:20] <NET||abuse> arrgg, ok, i disconnected lost all the links
[08:20] <bur[n] er> Siddhartha: /nick blah... you might also wanna try /help
[08:20] <NET||abuse> ok, i've botted into recue mode using my installcd,
[08:20] <NET||abuse> now i need to load up grub and set the boot loader onto the sata drive
[08:20] <tiede> what about me and automatix
[08:20] <Siddhartha211> ohh snap holy sh*t
[08:20] <dyrne> NET||abuse: if hda1 is ubuntu try sudo grub then at grub> type root (hd0,0) then enter then setup (sd0)
[08:20] <tiede> never mind, it seems to be working now
[08:20] <Siddhartha211> i didnt see the button
[08:21] <Siddhartha211> that says change nickname
[08:21] <NET||abuse> Error opening terminal: bterm
[08:21] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:  thats whats in my /etc/network/interfaces .   (nl) is a new line.  It looks right to mee, so there must be something I'm not seeing
[08:21] <AntMaz> i added the site to the repositories no what do i do
[08:21] <Panzerboy> Siddhartha211: wow, that's SOOO much better ;)
[08:21] <tiede> My sources.list is in ftp and I guess it might be the reason why it was not wirking... Isn't automatix supposed to wipe-out sources.list and puts his instead?
[08:22] <AntMaz> cause wines still not installed
[08:22] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: one sec, i'll show you mine
[08:22] <Siddhartha211>  /msg nickserv register [hari4ohm] 
[08:22] <NET||abuse> dyrne: what to you reakon
[08:22] <Siddhartha211> fucking shit
[08:22] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: http://burner.ath.cx/interfaces.txt
[08:22] <lowfi> lol
[08:22] <eldad> willmc: sound problem... remeber me?
[08:23] <dyrne> NET||abuse: can you get to a terminal?
[08:23] <NET||abuse> dyrne: error opening terminal: bterm
[08:23] <bur[n] er> don't swear Siddhartha211
[08:23] <Siddhartha211> how come whenever someone says something it opens in new tab
[08:24] <dyrne> NET||abuse: select run program then type xterm
[08:24] <bur[n] er> how come when I type in www.google.com in the address bar of firefox, it goes to google's website?
[08:24] <Siddhartha211> i dont know
[08:24] <Siddhartha211> maybe its your OS
[08:24] <Siddhartha211> reinstall windows
[08:24] <bur[n] er> cause it's supposed to!
[08:24] <bur[n] er> heh
[08:24] <NET||abuse> dyrne: i'm in rescue console, i can't run xterm
[08:24] <Siddhartha211> can i turn it off?
[08:24] <Siddhartha211> i want one window
[08:24] <dyrne> ah
[08:24] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:  it says connection refused, on this computer
[08:24] <Siddhartha211> not all these popup crap
[08:24] <Siddhartha211> alrite
[08:25] <Siddhartha211> so back to my original question
[08:25] <NET||abuse> dyrne: i have a bash temrinal
[08:25] <Siddhartha211> about Office programs
[08:25] <Siddhartha211> what office programs come with Linux
[08:25] <dyrne> NET||abuse: sudo grub
[08:25] <dyrne> NET||abuse: does that work?
[08:25] <klippo> which packages do i need to use terminal fonts i gnome-terminal. i can choose terminal font. but only as normal and bold. not xterm alike
[08:25] <AntMaz> how do i install wine
[08:25] <AntMaz> winhq doesnt really tell me how
[08:25] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: one sec, my dyndns is b0rked
[08:26] <madmancanuck> ohh, ok
[08:26] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: http://67.173.243.73/interfaces.txt
[08:26] <AntMaz> i tried wget wine ,apt-get wine
[08:26] <roostishaw> anyone in here know how to unmount a floppy?
[08:26] <edward0> dyrne: ok sorry will uncomment universe as well and try thanks
[08:26] <dyrne> AntMaz: are you familiar with editing sources.list?
[08:26] <roostishaw> it says i have insufficiant privlages
[08:26] <AntMaz> no
[08:27] <NET||abuse> dyrne: i'm in rescue console so i managed to get bash shell up and im in as root
[08:27] <NET||abuse> grub still gives bterm error
[08:27] <boogie> whats the best movie player for linux? i can't get totem to work!
[08:27] <edward0> dyrne: ok thanks vlc showing up now :)
[08:27] <ablomen> Cryptid: boogie mplayer
[08:27] <jan__> hi, can someone give me a good tip on what program to use to tune in on radio?
[08:27] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:  I'll try adding the auto eth0 and see if maybe that fixes it
[08:27] <ablomen> woops
[08:27] <AntMaz> someone i here told me before how to do it but i dont remeber , and i had to reinstall ubuntu because of some tab writing program that was unstable it messed up everypackage i tried to install
[08:27] <ablomen> boogie: mplayer
[08:27] <dyrne> ubotu: tell AntMaz about wine
[08:27] <boogie> mplayer?
[08:28] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: the auto makes it come up at startup
[08:28] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:  ya, that might help hey ;)
[08:28] <eldad> HELP: how do I restart all audio controls (to have them as if I just restarted?
[08:28] <eikenberry> boogie. xine also works fairly well.
[08:28] <AntMaz> winehq doesnt tell me how to install it
[08:28] <boogie> where can i find it?
[08:28] <Marticus> sup
[08:28] <dyrne> ok try root (hd0,0) enter then setup (sd0) enter
[08:28] <ablomen> boogie: yeah it a great movie player for linux
[08:28] <boogie> i'm new at this still
[08:28] <dyrne> NET||abuse: ^
[08:28] <GigaByte_> hi
[08:28] <ablomen> !tell boogie about mplayer
[08:29] <Marticus> ablomen: just came in, which player would that be?
[08:29] <NET||abuse> dyrne: ok, trying now.
[08:29] <Marticus> nevermind
[08:29] <Marticus> heh
[08:29] <eikenberry> boogie. I'd think xine/mplayer would be in universe. Not sure. I'm just only working toward my first ubuntu install. debian is my current.
[08:29] <ablomen> !tell Marticus about mplayer
[08:29] <NET||abuse> dyrne; ok, root isn't a command in bash
[08:29] <NET||abuse> dyrne: or is it?
[08:29] <dyrne> AntMaz: wiki.ubuntu.com/addingrepositorieshowto
[08:29] <boogie> thanks
[08:29] <AntMaz> i did that allready
[08:29] <Marticus> so I'll make this my new home
[08:29] <NET||abuse> anyway, that just gives syntax error near `hda0,0'
[08:29] <tiede> root is a username, not a command NET||abuse
[08:30] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:  Thanks, that appears to have fixed my problem...   Stupid morning not thinkings
[08:30] <Marticus> I read the web site
[08:30] <Marticus> very nice write-up on ubuntu
[08:30] <bur[n] er> madmancanuck: nice :)  have a good one
[08:30] <dyrne> AntMaz: you want to add deb
[08:30] <antisocial_boris> can anyone help me listen to the radio online? i installed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer, but its still not working
[08:30] <madmancanuck> bur[n] er:  Thanks, you too
[08:30] <AntMaz> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[08:31] <AntMaz> did that
[08:31] <Siddhartha211> does AOL work with linux?
[08:31] <AntMaz> sidd dont use aol
[08:31] <Marticus> Siddhartha211: use gaim
[08:31] <AntMaz> aol=n00b
[08:31] <dyrne> AntMaz: then sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get install wine
[08:31] <tiede> what do you want to do exactly Siddhartha211
[08:31] <Marticus> oh, isp, not im
[08:31] <dyrne> NET||abuse: should be root (hd0,0) not a
[08:31] <Marticus> my bad
[08:31] <Siddhartha211> im talking about AOL internet
[08:32] <Siddhartha211> dialup internet
[08:32] <_jason> Siddhartha211: try ubuntuforums.org, I think I've seen some threads about aol
[08:32] <Siddhartha211> not AIM
[08:32] <Marticus> I just said that
[08:32] <OmegaAlpha> hello, anyone have a familiarity with this error- [4294701.216000]  [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!
[08:32] <Marticus> touchy...
[08:32] <Marticus> heh
[08:32] <AntMaz> ok thanks
[08:32] <AntMaz> ill try and remeber that
[08:32] <dyrne> np :)
[08:32] <alien9391> What's libX11.so.6.2?
[08:33] <xinit> any drapper apt sources up yet?
[08:33] <bur[n] er> aol == bane on existence with no linux support from them as a company
[08:33] <dimasta> does anybody know a voice-over-ip program, where i can use my voip-freenet account?
[08:33] <AntMaz> sidd why do you want aol alls it does is crash
[08:33] <eikenberry> alien9391. standard X library.
[08:34] <alien9391> thx eikenberry
[08:34] <AntMaz> try it with wine i guess
[08:34] <nysosym> Hi all
[08:34] <Marticus> hrm, minor mistakes on the web site
[08:34] <w32> hey is pastebin offline ?
[08:34] <bur[n] er> Siddhartha211: to switch to linux, it takes a different mentality... instead of saying "does linux run <windows app>" it's more appropriate to say... "can i accomplish my goal of doing <something like browse the internet>?"
[08:34] <nysosym> is watching DVDs possible with the new Dapper version?
[08:34] <dyrne> Siddhartha211: most places should have dsl available for the price of aol
[08:35] <Marticus> w32 it doesnt work for me
[08:35] <bur[n] er> nysosym: it's possible in breezy
[08:35] <w32> ok its down do you know of another  s
[08:35] <w32> *similar
[08:35] <nysosym> bur[n] er: i know, but i will watch DVD on Dapper :)
[08:36] <Marticus> "If you have skills with wallpapers, Inkscape, icons and themes you should contribute to the Art team who on icons, themes."
[08:36] <dimasta> is there a voice-over-ip program in linux, which accepts accounts from different voip-providers?
[08:36] <bur[n] er> nysosym: i watch dvds in dapper the same way
[08:36] <w32> Marticus: is there a similar site to pastebin
[08:36] <eldad> HELP - how do I restart sound?
[08:36] <Marticus> w32 yes, although I don't know of them off the top of my head
[08:37] <dyrne> eldad: maybe sudo /etc/inid.t/alsa restart
[08:37] <w32> !flood
[08:37] <ubotu> flood is, like, totally, for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[08:37] <dyrne> eldad: ach sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[08:37] <SpareBit> does anyone know if Belkin's PCI wireless card works with breezy ??
[08:37] <piromana> bur[n] er - works now, had missed one entry :)
[08:37] <bur[n] er> piromana: :)
[08:37] <Kstor> hey
[08:38] <Kstor> bonjour
[08:38] <bur[n] er> #ubuntu-fr
[08:38] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:38] <Kstor> arf
[08:38] <Kstor> ok
[08:38] <GTX> checking for gcc no
[08:38] <GTX> checking for cc o
[08:38] <GTX> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[08:38] <GTX> Oops didnt mean to paste
[08:38] <nysosym> bur[n] er: Hmm i have libdvd***2 but i can't watch DVDs which Totem Player. The failure is "No Reason" ..  . Can you help me please?
[08:38] <GTX> But how do I install cc
[08:38] <oklinux> any one here use realplayer ?
[08:38] <bur[n] er> nysosym: dapper?
[08:38] <nysosym> oklinux: yes i use realplayer
[08:38] <nysosym> bur[n] er: yes
[08:39] <eldad> dyrne: output : "/etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: The 'restart' method is deprecated and will be remove d.
[08:39] <eldad> /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead.
[08:39] <eldad> "
[08:39] <bur[n] er> nysosym: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[08:39] <cycom> GTX apt-get build-dep?
[08:39] <GTX> ta
[08:39] <w32> I' m following the tutorial at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p6 and at the end of the setup I get ths error any one know what I can do or where to look to fix it here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8979
[08:39] <eldad> dyrne: " /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead."
[08:39] <oklinux> mysosym how do you configure it ?
[08:39] <GTX> cycom, E: Must specify at least one package to check builddeps for
[08:39] <w32> when ispconfig is building
[08:39] <alien9391> Someone,  please! I should create a symbolic link from /usr/x11R6/lib/libx11.so.6.2 to /usr/x11R6/lib/libx11.so, in order to get kylix work, but i do not have such dir.
[08:39] <nysosym> bur[n] er: totem-gstreamer
[08:39] <dyrne> eldad: yes that will prob work
[08:40] <bur[n] er> nysosym: get totem-xine ? :)
[08:40] <bur[n] er> nysosym: or there's always vlc
[08:40] <cycom> GTX what were you trying to install?
[08:40] <GTX> cycom, gcc and cc
[08:40] <dyrne> eldad: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[08:40] <slvmchn> can anyone help me getting videos to work in mozilla? most videos won't load
[08:40] <lowfi> GTX: sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:40] <bur[n] er> slvmchn: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:40] <cycom> GTX: no, what were you trying to install them for?
[08:40] <SpareBit> bur[n] er, I use vlc
[08:40] <GTX> cycom, TCL 8.4
[08:40] <bur[n] er> GTX: get build-essential package :)
[08:40] <Jormundgand> Right.
[08:40] <GTX> ta
[08:40] <GTX> :D
[08:41] <slvmchn> "couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer"
[08:41] <Jormundgand> My problem: after replacing Metacity with Kwin, I no longer get any functionality from the Print Screen key on my keyboard.
[08:41] <Jormundgand> I want it to run gnome-screenshot.
[08:41] <Jormundgand> Attempted solutions:
[08:41] <GTX> bur[n] er,
[08:41] <GTX> root@metroid:~/tcl8.4.12/unix# apt-get build-essential package
[08:41] <GTX> E: Invalid operation build-essential
[08:41] <GTX> root@metroid:~/tcl8.4.12/unix#
[08:41] <GTX> grr I pasted again
[08:41] <GTX> sorry
[08:41] <Jormundgand> 1) System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts. That doesn't let me map PrintScreen to anything - it complains I won't be able to use it for typing if I map it.
[08:42] <Jormundgand> 2) kcontrol - doesn't seem to do anything if I add PrintScreen to its list of actions.
[08:42] <bur[n] er> GTX: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:42] <m00se> hello
[08:42] <nysosym> bur[n] er: the same problem with totem-xine. Failure with "No reason"
[08:42] <bur[n] er> Jormundgand: try running "khotkeys"
[08:42] <bur[n] er> Jormundgand: doh, nevermind
[08:43] <Jormundgand> That was recently integrated into the Control Centre and renamed, so no more.
[08:43] <Jormundgand> :(
[08:43] <m00se> i installed hoary on an old celeron 800MHz ell
[08:43] <m00se> s/ell/Dell/
[08:43] <nysosym> brb
[08:43] <bur[n] er> m00se: apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy :)
[08:43] <m00se> upgrade from hoary to breeze went ok, but when i upgraded to dapper i can no longer boot
[08:44] <SpareBit> bur[n] er, Do you know how to apt-get mplayer??
[08:44] <ice> !dapper drake
[08:44] <ubotu> well, dapper drake is the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper
[08:44] <m00se> with dapper's 2.6.15 kernel all i get is busy box saying it can't find /dev/hda
[08:44] <ice> hmm anyone have dapper
[08:44] <ice> I can I see someones sources.list
[08:45] <Siddhartha211> whats dapper?
[08:45] <OmegaAlpha> hello, anyone familiar with this error- [4294701.216000]  [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!
[08:45] <OmegaAlpha>  (btw my system keeps freezing up and i think it has something to do with my video card because i can still move my mouse.)
[08:45] <ice> I think my repositories are screwed up
[08:45] <m00se> i can boot with 2.6.12 from breezy but modprobe segfaults during boot
[08:45] <m00se> any ideas?
[08:45] <bimberi> w32: i'd say you're missing mysql header files - try installing one of the libmysqlclientNN-dev packages (NN is either 10,12 or 14) - depending on what version of mysql-server you have installed
[08:45] <Siddhartha211> how can i burn to cd or read from cd in ubuntu?
[08:45] <dyrne> ice: not mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:45] <ice> k
[08:45] <Xenguy> !tell ice about easysource
[08:46] <m00se> ice: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8980
[08:47] <gouchi> Siddhartha211 : use nautilus if you are on Gnome or K3B under Kubuntu
[08:48] <beeswax> how do i "setup" a win application for wine? in winecfg i can only chose the main executable (which is normally only available after the setup)...?
[08:48] <bur[n] er> SpareBit: mplayer-586
[08:48] <xpl0it> Hello
[08:49] <xpl0it> I mounted my windows drive but cannot cd into the "Program Files" directory....
[08:49] <xpl0it> All other directories I have no problem with..
[08:50] <antisocial_boris> why cant i listen to the radio with my mplayer plugin?
[08:50] <lasse> how do i install nvidia driver on ubuntu?
[08:51] <slvmchn> lasse: check the ubuntu wiki, it has step by step instructions
[08:51] <m00se> so anyone has any idea? i can manualy load necessary modules (network, ussb, agpgart) but somehow modprobe fails to do that automaticaly
[08:51] <Seveas> !tell lasse about nvidia
[08:52] <GTX> bur[n] er, any idea how to fix checking for mysql header... configure: error: Cannot find mysql.h in /usr/include/mysql use -with-mysql-include=?
[08:52] <xpl0it> After mounting my windows partition, it will not allow me to change directory into "Program Files" or any folder using two words...any way around this?
[08:52] <Seveas> GTX, what are you compiling>
[08:52] <johandc> Hello, my dapper flight4 cd hangs during boot on an amd64 system. It gets to configuraiton of xorg. And on tty1 i can see that /etc/X11/xorg.conf was not found, is this a known bug?
[08:52] <GTX> mysqltcl
[08:52] <Seveas> !find mysqltcl
[08:52] <ubotu> mysqltcl: (Interface to the MySQL database for the Tcl language.), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 2.30-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 112 kB
[08:52] <Seveas> GTX, don't compile it - install from the repositories...
[08:53] <m_tadeu> hi everyone...what should I do to auto mount a usb hard disk?
[08:53] <cyberic_s> is there any reason why my cd will only rip cds at .6x
[08:53] <GTX> Seveas, it  only finds old version
[08:53] <Seveas> m_tadeu, plug it in
[08:53] <cyberic_s> err .06x
[08:53] <relak> can somebody help me getting java to work with FF? i just did whats described in the wiki but still does not work
[08:53] <xpl0it> Any reason why I cannot change directory in a directory with two words in it?
[08:53] <Seveas> !info mysqltcl dapper
[08:53] <ubotu> mysqltcl: (Interface to the MySQL database for the Tcl language.), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 3.01-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 124 kB
[08:53] <xpl0it> e.g. Program Files
[08:53] <Seveas> GTX, is 3.01 new enough?
[08:53] <lowfi> xpl0it: cd 'Program Files' , and please dont own me :)
[08:53] <GTX> nope
[08:53] <GTX> oh
[08:53] <m_tadeu> Seveas: lol thanks....not working. can you help me?
[08:53] <GTX> yes Seveas  it is
[08:54] <Seveas> GTX, ok, hang on
[08:54] <GTX> Ta
[08:54] <Seveas> GTX, you're using breezy I presume?
[08:54] <GTX> correct Seveas
[08:54] <cyberic_s> what program do you guys use for ripping cds? goobox and sound juicer both are ripping cds very very slowly
[08:54] <GTX> its in server mode.
[08:55] <Seveas> ok, I;ll try a quick backpoirt for you
[08:55] <GTX> k
[08:56] <w32> I' m following the tutorial at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p6 and at the end of the setup I get ths error any one know what I can do or where to look to fix it here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8979
[08:56] <dyrne> can someone who knows a little python answer a quick question: len(stringname) // 2 what does the '//' do?
[08:56] <uzamora10> unellez
[08:56] <Siddhartha211> whats an ubuntu flavor?
[08:57] <Jormundgand> Chocbuntu <3
[08:57] <Siddhartha211> but what is it?
[08:57] <Jormundgand> I guess it's how you differentiate Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Goobuntu etc.
[08:57] <w32> a variant of ubuntu = ubuntu flavor
[08:58] <onyx> good morning
[08:58] <cyberic_s> god my sound card sounds like crap on linux, probably because its built-in, maybe I should throw that old sound blaster in
[08:58] <Siddhartha211> which one do they give me if i told them to ship me PC cds
[08:58] <ablomen> onyx: good evening ;)
[08:58] <GTX> cyberic_s,  same here :p
[08:58] <Seveas> GTX, add this to your sources.list: deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas backports
[08:58] <GTX> ok
[08:58] <cyberic_s> grr, almost time for work, damn it
[08:58] <Seveas> GTX, and then apt-get update && apt-get install mysqltcl 
[08:59] <cavedive2> Is there an application to record a movie of the desktop ?
[08:59] <dyrne> well i know what it does obviously just wondering about diff between / and // both seem to work
[08:59] <johandc> Hello, my dapper flight4 cd hangs during boot on an amd64 system. It gets to configuraiton of xorg. And on tty1 i can see that /etc/X11/xorg.conf was not found, is this a known bug?
[08:59] <Seveas> cavedive2, byzanz
[08:59] <cavedive2> Like a capture thin g
[08:59] <w32> cavedive2: not that I know of for Linux
[08:59] <onyx> damn.. fedora core was better.. ubuntu won\t let me use finnish letters.. gd damit!
[09:00] <LinuxJones> cavedive2, istanbul
[09:00] <miriam> hola
[09:00] <miriam> como estas
[09:00] <miriam> hola
[09:00] <Seveas> onyx, swearing won't get you anywhere...
[09:00] <GTX> Seveas,
[09:00] <miriam> como estas
[09:00] <GTX> W: GPG error: http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[09:00] <gouchi> antisocial_boris : it depens which type of flux
[09:00] <GTX> I got that
[09:00] <miriam> jbskjbs
[09:00] <jjjjjjj> howdy... i need to take a screen shot but with the application menu open.  is there a keystroke shortcut like Alt + Printscreen?
[09:00] <miriam> hello
[09:00] <cavedive2> Thanks.
[09:00] <amphi> !tell miriam about es
[09:00] <Seveas> amphi, known troll..
[09:00] <onyx> gtx, i know, but it makes me feel better XD
[09:00] <amphi> Seveas: ah
[09:00] <jjjjjjj> i just answered my own q:
[09:00] <Seveas> !tell GTX about seveas
[09:00] <dyrne> wrong channel sry
[09:00] <Seveas> GTX, read the wikipage ubotu gave you 
[09:01] <xpl0it> Any idea how to get read/write access to a mounted partition?
[09:01] <GTX> kk
[09:01] <relak> how can i set java up for FireFox?
[09:01] <Seveas> xpl0it, what kind of partition/how is it mounted?
[09:01] <Eleaf> I like the smiley Seveas
[09:01] <Eleaf> lol..
[09:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell relak about java
[09:01] <amphi> xpl0it: is it mounted rw? otherwise mount /mount/point -o remount,rw
[09:01] <cyberic_s> well, off to work i go fee fi fo fum
[09:01] <miriam> hi
[09:01] <Siddhartha211> if I use livecd will it erase any files that i alredy have from windows
[09:01] <miriam> im from mexico
[09:02] <Siddhartha211> hablo un poco espanol
[09:02] <miriam> ah que bien
[09:02] <miriam> eres de donde
[09:02] <`evoL> hi, does ubuntu support .bin files, and if so how do i open them ?
[09:02] <Seveas> Siddhartha211, but not in here - this channel is english only
[09:02] <Seveas> !tell miriam about es
[09:02] <LinuxJones> Siddhartha211, not unless you tell Linux to erase them
[09:02] <Siddhartha211> los estados unidos
[09:02] <GTX> Thank you Seveas, your the best!
[09:02] <amphi> `evoL: what are they?
[09:02] <relak> _jason, i did that and it does not work :(
[09:02] <`evoL> it's a program for counter strike to run whats called an HLTV
[09:02] <intero> hi
[09:02] <_jason> relak: are you using the firefox that came with the install?
[09:02] <Seveas> `evoL, if it's a movie: mplayer can play them. If not: convert to iso with bchumk and mount the iso
[09:03] <oklinux> hey LinuxJones are you familiar with realplayer ?
[09:03] <relak> _jason yes
[09:03] <amphi> `evoL: an ELF binary?
[09:03] <intero> what's the minimum linux version required to properly use amd64 dualcores?
[09:03] <ubuntu> hola a todos manga de putos
[09:03] <_jason> relak: what did you install exactly?  (there is more than one method on the wiki)
[09:03] <Siddhartha211> Aprendo espanol en mi colegio.
[09:03] <LinuxJones> oklinux, not really no I use gxine
[09:03] <`evoL> i'm not sure, it's just "hldsupdatetool.bin"
[09:03] <Seveas> Siddhartha211, english polease....
[09:03] <intero> ubuntu was insulting us
[09:03] <Seveas> intero, I know, he left already...
[09:03] <oklinux> what is gxine ?
[09:03] <intero> oklinux: xine gui for gnome
[09:04] <Seveas> `evoL, ah you can just run that file, make it executable and run it
[09:04] <LinuxJones> oklinux, it's a movie player
[09:04] <`evoL> Seveas, how do i do that :/
[09:04] <amphi> `evoL: do 'file hldsupdatetool.bin' without the quotes and see what it says ablut it
[09:04] <`evoL> alright
[09:04] <amphi> er,about it
[09:04] <Seveas> `evoL, chmod +x hlds....bin
[09:04] <relak> _jason i did not install Java, it is on my mashine already, i only did whats drecribed in "Java on Mozilla Firefox"
[09:05] <gouchi> oklinux : try totem
[09:05] <amphi> Seveas: even if file says it's 'data' ? ;)
[09:05] <_jason> relak: how did you install java?
[09:05] <GTX> Seveas, can't find package mysqltcl
[09:05] <GTX> I get that
[09:05] <GTX> when I try to find it
[09:05] <`evoL> thank you
[09:06] <`evoL> the chmod +X hlds....bin worked :)O
[09:06] <Seveas> GTX, try apt-get update again, you may have been a bot too quick (I was still uploading when you gave the error message)
[09:06] <GTX> k
[09:06] <relak> _jason i don't know, it's just on my mashine, at least when i type java in the console it does NOT say java is not a command
[09:06] <_jason> relak: you probably have the java that openoffice uses, you should follow the wiki on installing blackdown or sun java
[09:07] <amphi> `evoL: what did file say it was?
[09:07] <relak> _jason ok, i'll try that
[09:07] <`evoL> amphi i don't know but the chmod thing worked lol
[09:07] <oklinux> gouchi Im trying to play a .rm file extension
[09:07] <`evoL> lol
[09:07] <GTX> Seveas, get same :S
[09:07] <gouchi> oklinux : which backen did u use ?
[09:08] <Seveas> GTX, hmm, odd
[09:08] <oklinux> what backen gouchi
[09:08] <gouchi> oklinux : on breezy try aptitude install totem-xine
[09:08] <gouchi> okliunx : and w32codecs
[09:08] <gouchi> oklinux : you are using Ubuntu breezy ?
[09:08] <Seveas> GTX, you got no errors with apt-get update?
[09:09] <oklinux> I think so gouchi
[09:09] <gouchi> np
[09:09] <Gnumannen> I have just installes xserver-xorgm, how do I start X?
[09:09] <Seveas> GTX, woah -- OK, I found a bug somewhere in my repository thing I guess... - this is my fault - please stand by 
[09:09] <Gnumannen> *installed, xserver-xorg
[09:09] <amphi> Gnumannen: try startx
[09:09] <Siddhartha211> im back
[09:09] <Siddhartha211> i was BOOTED
[09:10] <gouchi> oklinux : totem on Dapper using Gstreamer backend is better using Gstreamer 0.10
[09:10] <xpl0it_> k so how can I copy an entire folders contents to another drive at the command line?
[09:10] <Gnumannen> amphi: command not found :o
[09:10] <amphi> Gnumannen: apt-get install xbase-clients perhaps
[09:10] <gouchi> oklinux : but on Breezy try totem-xine + w32codecs
[09:10] <alien9391> I could run the kylix with the 'LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.0 startkylix' , it is running, but I can see no fonts. I put up a bunch of them but, no effect.
[09:10] <Gnumannen> amphi: ok, i try that
[09:10] <amphi> xpl0it_: cp -R (man cp)
[09:11] <cycom> xpl0it_: cp -r * /path/to/mounted/other/drive
[09:11] <vitriol> i still can't get my printer connected to the ubuntu computer to be shared by the other computers (both others are windows computers)
[09:11] <vitriol> anybody know of a good how-to for this?
[09:11] <GTX> Seveas, got it working
[09:11] <GTX> it was my side
[09:11] <GTX> :D
[09:12] <Siddhartha211> what good movie making programs are there for linux?
[09:12] <Seveas> GTX, ah - well there is something wrong on my side too - the package does not show up in the HTML indexes :/
[09:12] <Siddhartha211> or rather
[09:12] <Siddhartha211> ubuntu
[09:12] <Seveas> Siddhartha211, kino, cinelerra
[09:12] <GTX> ;p
[09:12] <relak> _jason, first it says "ensure that you do not download one of the J2EE or JDK..." and later it says "you can do the same method for JDK"... i want the JDK.. so?
[09:12] <Siddhartha211> do thsee come with ubuntu or do i have to download them
[09:13] <relak> JRE contains JDK no?
[09:13] <relak> the other way around
[09:13] <_jason> relak: download the jdk, that's just so new users don't get the wrong thing.  You can edit it and make it more clear if you feel it's ambiguous
[09:13] <Gnumannen> amphi: thanks, it almust worked, some tweaking and I will have X launched soon, really thanks
[09:13] <relak> ok
[09:13] <oklinux> where can I find w32codecs gouchi ?
[09:13] <amphi> Gnumannen: cool
[09:13] <amphi> !w32codecs
[09:13] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:13] <gouchi> oklinux : did you read the FAQ :)
[09:14] <oklinux> what faq gouchi ?
[09:15] <makaveli> lilo have a great evening u too
[09:15] <Siddhartha211> later guys im going to play some halo
[09:15] <Siddhartha211> on WINDOWS XP HOME!!!!!!
[09:15] <Siddhartha211> lol
[09:16] <amphi> xp home, huh? the stuff dreams are made of...
[09:16] <OmegaAlpha> hello, anyone familiar with this error- [4294701.216000]  [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!
[09:16] <OmegaAlpha> (btw my system keeps freezing up and i think it has something to do with my video card because i can still move my mouse.)
[09:16] <gouchi> oklinux : I have to find the website
[09:17] <gouchi> OmegaAlpha : try to update your ATI driver
[09:17] <Seveas> OmegaAlpha, which videocard do you have?
[09:17] <OmegaAlpha> gouchi, Ive been trying to do that for the past couple days... because i use ATI
[09:17] <OmegaAlpha> Seveas, ATI Radeon Mobility U1 320M
[09:17] <gouchi> yep
[09:18] <oklinux> sorry gouchi
[09:18] <gouchi> and you use latest driver ?
[09:18] <gouchi> oklinux : np
[09:18] <OmegaAlpha> gouchi, I believe so. Ive been getting errors ATI related ever since I installed Ubuntu
[09:18] <GTX> Seveas, I've just installed apache and php, is there anything I need to do to get php to work?
[09:18] <Seveas> OmegaAlpha, how old is that one?
[09:18] <GTX> Seveas, as it doesnt seem to be working :S
[09:19] <oklinux> I have sound but I cant config real player to play rmextension gouchi
[09:19] <Seveas> GTX, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[09:19] <martii> Seveas: hi
[09:19] <Seveas> (or -php4 if you want php 4)
[09:19] <gouchi> oklinux : don't uses realplayer
[09:19] <OmegaAlpha> I dont know... my notebook itself is about 3 yrs old
[09:19] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: this thread might be of interest: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77888.html
[09:19] <gouchi> oklinux : try totem-xine + w32codecs
[09:19] <martii> Seveas: any idea why cairo is not having svg module?
[09:19] <OmegaAlpha> Seveas, i did searching and i believe i have this bug - https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15036
[09:19] <martii> Seveas: i mean python-cairo
[09:19] <eugenio> someone speak spanish???????????????????????????????????????????????
[09:19] <Seveas> martii, no idea
[09:19] <Seveas> !es
[09:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:19] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: what does lspci say the card is?
[09:19] <GTX> Seveas, libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version
[09:19] <oklinux> I installed toem-xine but I cant fine w32codecs gouchi
[09:20] <lupino> hello
[09:20] <Seveas> GTX, sudo a2enmod php5 ; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[09:20] <Seveas> !tell oklinux about w32codecs
[09:20] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, hey buddy. check out that link i sent Seveas. I believe that may be the same problem i have
[09:20] <GTX> Seveas, This module is already enabled!
[09:20] <gouchi> oklinux : see Seveas message ;-)
[09:20] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: is that the mesagl version thing?
[09:21] <oklinux> yes thanks gouchi
[09:21] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, its an ATI Technologies Radeon Mobility IGP320M U1
[09:21] <Seveas> GTX, good, then just restart apache 
[09:21] <OmegaAlpha> yeah when i type in glxinfo its the mesa stuff
[09:21] <Kyral> Whoa Seveas where did that smilely come from?
[09:21] <GTX> Seveas, how?
[09:21] <Seveas> Kyral, from hell
[09:21] <hanuman> 
[09:22] <Seveas> GTX, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[09:22] <Kyral> GTX: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:22] <Kube> it's been 2 days now and I am still not getting it, I think I tried everything. I cannot run Ubuntu on my system. It just freezes when I run it with LiveCd, and when I install it after I login nothing happens. I can only move my mouse.
[09:22] <Kyral> or that...
[09:22] <GTX> Seveas, still trys to download the php file :(
[09:22] <Kube> everything will stop, a blank wallpaper and I can only move the mouse!..
[09:22] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: man radeon suggests that's supported by the free xorg driver, perhaps you should try that
[09:22] <Seveas> GTX, hmm, weird...
[09:22] <Kube> same with SUSE, only DSL can start normally
[09:22] <Seveas> GTX, are you sure you don't accidentally have apache1 and apache2 installed simultaneously?
[09:23] <relak> _jason the console says: "You can
[09:23] <relak> install the package as root (e.g. dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb)." shall i use this?
[09:23] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: Radeon IGP320(M) is what the manpage calls it
[09:23] <voland> hi all
[09:23] <GTX> Seveas,  fixed it
[09:23] <GTX> i was using apache
[09:23] <GTX> not apach2
[09:23] <GTX> indeed
[09:23] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, i force dependency installed this  http://people.ubuntu.com/~daniels/libgl1-mesa-dri_6.3.2-0ubuntu7_i386.deb from what i read on here https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15036
[09:23] <Kube> any ideas??? please..
[09:24] <jimcoonca1> everytime I go to install apache that messes me up
[09:24] <gouchi> oklinux : try Sound options
[09:24] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: I reckon you should remove _all_ the fglrx crap, and try the xorg radeon driver - I don't think fglrx properly supports that card at all
[09:24] <soundray> Kyral, I take it you've been through the BIOS options?
[09:24] <tombs> hi all
[09:24] <gouchi> oklinux : and disable Sound Server
[09:25] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, heh i dont know how to :cx
[09:25] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: PM?
[09:25] <Kyral> soundray: missed the Tab Complete?
[09:25] <OmegaAlpha> PN?
[09:25] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, whats PN?
[09:25] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: private message
[09:25] <soundray> Kyral, no, sorry, missed the line.
[09:25] <Gnumannen> How can I get basic fonts as TTF, OTF, TYPE1 etc...?
[09:25] <Kyral> lol
[09:25] <gouchi> oklinux : keep it on bookmark ;-)
[09:26] <gouchi> oklinux : http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:26] <soundray> Kyral, I shouldn't try to help, I can't even read straight :)
[09:26] <voland> I asked this question yesterday, but noone can help: why i see abra-cadabra instead cyrillic letters in Audacity's menu? Could anyone help my?
[09:26] <Kyral> No Ubuntuguide
[09:26] <gouchi> Kyral : ?
[09:26] <soundray> Kube, have you looked at BIOS IRQ setup and APIC options?
[09:26] <Kyral> !ubuntuguide
[09:26] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:27] <GTX> Seveas, Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration. how can I fix this mate?
[09:27] <gouchi> gouchi  : hum :)
[09:27] <blueyed> Could it be that the grub splash feature fails if /boot is on another partition? Because /boot/grub/default-splash.xpm.gz is a symlink to /etc? (Dapper)
[09:27] <Seveas> GTX, apt-get install php5-mysql ; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[09:27] <jackrazz> hey everyone, I'm a complete ubuntu newbie (last night) and have a vmware related question..
[09:27] <GTX> ta
[09:28] <Kr4t05> !iso
[09:28] <ubotu> iso is, like, download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[09:28] <jackrazz> anyone familiar with installing vmware tools for ubuntu?
[09:28] <jimcooncat> jackrazz, I've used the player only
[09:28] <GTX> Thank you again Seveas  :D
[09:29] <Kube> Seveas, can you help me please?
[09:29] <jackrazz> hi jim, I'm trying to get a screen resolution higher than 1024x768
[09:29] <Kube> soundray, I am sorry I am a bit lagged, what did you mean? i'm new to Linux..
[09:30] <GTX> Seveas, another stupid question Your configuration file contains settings (root with no password) that correspond to the default MySQL privileged account. Your MySQL server is running with this default, is open to intrusion, and you really should fix this security hole.
[09:30] <arkaitz> hello
[09:30] <ogami1972> hi all
[09:30] <jackrazz> I think I need to install the vmware tools to do this...
[09:30] <GTX> How would I fix that Seveas I know I have to type some mysql commands
[09:30] <sAMwHOdISsAM> Hi everyone
[09:30] <Seveas> GTX, install phpmyadmin ;)
[09:30] <jimcooncat> jackrazz, #vmware is populated they should be able to help
[09:31] <khalil_> i am having problems getting my sound to work ,i have Intel motherboard  with audio controller  82801FB
[09:31] <ogami1972> i am finding the linux community to be not so helpful as cracked up to be in regards to other distros
[09:31] <ogami1972> i was wondering if i could get some general networking help
[09:31] <GTX> Seveas, Thats where I got that error from
[09:31] <GTX> It lets me in etc
[09:31] <GTX> but I need to secure it
[09:31] <GTX> so it needs password
[09:31] <Seveas> ogami1972, just ask in here - of someone can help, you're lucky 
[09:31] <jimcooncat> ogami1972, details of your situation, please?
[09:31] <jackrazz> ok, jim...I'll try there
[09:32] <Seveas> GTX, phpmyadmin has a "Change Password" button ;)
[09:32] <khalil_> can someone please tell me how do you reconfigure the sound card on ubuntu breezy
[09:32] <sAMwHOdISsAM> Would it be better for me to get the AMD64 bit ditsro version or just the regular x86 and whats the difference?
[09:32] <arkaitz> where could i get a good sources.list for xmule, skype,etc...??
[09:32] <jackrazz> are there forums set up for the Drake Flight releases?
[09:32] <jenda> Anyone know about Labtec keyboards on Ubuntu?
[09:32] <Seveas> GTX, the "Privileges" link in the PMA homepage
[09:32] <GTX> :S
[09:33] <GTX> Found it
[09:33] <Kube> Please someone -> I cannot run Ubuntu on my system. It just freezes when I run it with LiveCd, and when I install it after I login nothing happens. I can only move my mouse.
[09:33] <khalil_> can someone please tell me how do you reconfigure the sound card on ubuntu breezy, anyone please
[09:33] <ogami1972> i have installed agnula on my old laptop- i see eth0 at boot, but the network is down once x starts
[09:33] <Seveas> !info agnula
[09:33] <jackrazz> Ahh..I now see the forum for the Dapper Drake release..
[09:34] <ogami1972> i added "auto eth0" to /etc/network/interfaces, tried "ifup eth0" and the pump utility, to no avail
[09:34] <c0rrupt_> How can i remove KDE from starting up?
[09:34] <jbmagic> hi all
[09:34] <ogami1972> two nites of goole have led to nothing but dead ends- people complain of the problem, but no solutions are posted
[09:34] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, select gnome or xfce or whatever you fancy in the login manager
[09:35] <ogami1972> :..(
[09:35] <jbmagic> is ubuntu easy to use?
[09:35] <ogami1972> ubuntu is super easy
[09:35] <jbmagic> easier than gentoo?
[09:35] <Seveas> rofl
[09:35] <Seveas> ANYTHING is easier than gentoo
[09:35] <hanuman> 
[09:35] <Seveas> no wait
[09:35] <ogami1972> i haven't used gentoo- finding ubuntu ended my distro search
[09:35] <c0rrupt_> Seveas what link i have to remove
[09:35] <c0rrupt_> to stop the graphical kde login
[09:35] <anavim> linux from scratch is harder than gentoo ;)
[09:35] <Seveas> gentoo is quite easy - but you need a lot of experience for it to become easy
[09:35] <arkanes> ogami1972: I had a similiar problem and it was because the interface was disabled in the gnome network applet
[09:36] <jbmagic> seems like ubunti is a great linux distro i am going to try out
[09:36] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, ah, you want to stop all GUI from starting?
[09:36] <c0rrupt_> yes
[09:36] <c0rrupt_> im using kubuntu for a server =P
[09:36] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[09:36] <ogami1972> i should just use ubuntu- i am already using a xubuntu installation as a multitrack recording studio
[09:36] <jbmagic> can i instal lubuntu with the live cd? or better to get the .iso one?
[09:36] <khalil_> kube : cntrl-alt-f1 before login ,and reconfigure your video driver for vesa ,i had the same issue yesterday
[09:36] <relak> why is that? http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1964/javaff6or.png if i click on the Plugin icon it tells gives me the option to install java... although java is installed and working fine as you can see on the left
[09:36] <Seveas> jbmagic, no you cannot install from live cd yet
[09:36] <ogami1972> it has just become a bit of a challenge that i would like to conquer
[09:36] <c0rrupt_> k ty
[09:36] <jackrazz> Newbie question, I just installed Dapper Draker Flight 4...should I apply the software updates?
[09:37] <ogami1972> how can i disable the gnome network applet?
[09:37] <whatwhat> hello
[09:37] <jackrazz> hello whatwhat
[09:37] <jbmagic> Seveas: oce i get the iso file and download and install it...will i ever need to do it again when new updates version of ubuntu comes out?
[09:37] <benplaut> where would i find system startup logs? initng was failing, i need the exact error
[09:38] <Seveas> jbmagic, no
[09:38] <jimcooncat> jbmagic, ease of updating is what's so nice about ubuntu, you don't need to reinstall
[09:38] <jbmagic> awesome thanks
[09:38] <ogami1972> but reinstalling is so fun!
[09:39] <jbmagic> also does the live cd of ubantu have a dvd player?
[09:39] <GTX> Seveas, It says update config.inc.php but I cant find it, do I have to make it with another php file?
[09:39] <Seveas> jbmagic, no
[09:39] <[olli] > hmm, where in ubuntu can i disable the load of the ehci_hcd module?
[09:39] <ogami1972> it's like watching TV, but with a sense of accomplishment at the end!
[09:39] <Seveas> (well, technically yes, but libdvdcss and codecs are missing)
[09:39] <jimcooncat> ogami1972, curious about this agnula distro, what's the deal with it?
[09:39] <Seveas> [olli] , echo 'blacklist ehci_hcd' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-olli
[09:40] <jbmagic> Seveas: when i install the full version of ubantu do i need to be online when its installing?
[09:40] <khalil_> can someone please tell me how do you reconfigure the sound card on ubuntu breezy, anyone please
[09:40] <Seveas> jbmagic, no
[09:40] <[olli] > Seveas, thanks
[09:40] <ogami1972> well, it allegedly has a low latency kernel patch, which is useful for audio recording-
[09:40] <jbmagic> Seveas:  just need to be online to update it after installation right?
[09:40] <Seveas> jbmagic, 100% correct
[09:40] <jbmagic> thanks
[09:40] <ogami1972> but again, i use ubuntu for recording, with no complaints at all
[09:40] <jackrazz> seveas, thanks on the update question...
[09:40] <Mouldy> Hey all. I'm thinking of getting Ubuntu and have an AMD64 cpu. I was wondering, how many packages for 64bit are there compared with 32bit, and will the 32bit version work?
[09:41] <jbmagic> is ubuntu faster to install than gentoo?
[09:41] <ruudb> Does anybody know a way to play wmv files in mozilla?
[09:41] <jimcooncat> jbmagic, a big old yes
[09:41] <hanuman> who cares what is faster to install?
[09:41] <dyrne> jbmagic: only by a few orders of magitude
[09:41] <ogami1972> i just want it because it is a stripped down debian that already has all the music programs i want- ardour,synths, jakc, etc- and nothing else
[09:41] <Seveas> Mouldy, 32bit will work, there is no flash for 64bit and several multimedia codecs are missing
[09:41] <ogami1972> jack that is
[09:41] <Seveas> ruudb, install mplayer-mozilla and w32codecs
[09:41] <Mouldy> Seveas: But flash and the codecs will work fine if I install the 32bit version on a 64bit system?
[09:41] <Seveas> (and surgically remove the totem plugin)
[09:42] <Seveas> Mouldy, correct
[09:42] <jbmagic> does ubuntu do a nice clean install? or it install apps, etc with it?
[09:42] <Mouldy> Seveas: Ok thanks. Exactly what I needed to hear :)
[09:42] <Mouldy> Are there any 'real' advantages of using the 64bit version over the 32bit?
[09:42] <ogami1972> if i can't solve this in 2 hours, i am just installing ubuntu- it was running just fine when i was using this lappy for work
[09:42] <Seveas> jbmagic, there are 2 options: a full desktop and a lean base system that does not even install X
[09:42] <ruudb> I have installed w32codecs but there are dependicy problems with mplayer
[09:42] <Seveas> the full desktop installs openoffice, evolution, firefox etc...
[09:43] <Kube> khalil_ you here?
[09:43] <jbmagic> Seveas:  which one you recommend
[09:43] <Kube> khalil_ how can I do that could you guide me throught it?
[09:43] <dyrne> jbmagic: what kind of system do you have?
[09:43] <jbmagic> can i pick what i want install or able to take out what i dotn want
[09:43] <Seveas> jbmagic, depends on your linux skill and your needs
[09:43] <jbmagic> amd xp 1800+ pc
[09:43] <Seveas> jbmagic, not during install, during install you have only those 2 options
[09:43] <jimcooncat> jbmagic, if you like gnome then default install is great
[09:43] <c0rrupt`> Seveas, i just installed kubuntu to a hd, but now i need the hd in a diff computer
[09:44] <c0rrupt`> its saying it cant find hdc1
[09:44] <Seveas> after install you can install/remove anything you want 
[09:44] <dyrne> jbmagic: prefer kde or gnome?
[09:44] <ogami1972> i say it depends on the use- i have one desktop for music production- i did a server install on that- i have another desktop with all the bells and whistles
[09:44] <jbmagic> does ubuntu leave dependencies mess when you unistall?
[09:44] <jbmagic> kde
[09:44] <Seveas> c0rrupt`, I'm not surprised 
[09:44] <c0rrupt`> probably because the name of the drive cchanged
[09:44] <c0rrupt`> fixable?
[09:44] <Seveas> jbmagic, not if you uninstall correctly (and debfoster can help you clean up the remaining bits)
[09:44] <jbmagic> nice
[09:45] <Seveas> c0rrupt`, sure, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab and reinstall grub
[09:45] <c0rrupt`> well
[09:45] <c0rrupt`> grub works
[09:45] <jimcooncat> if i'm right, jbmagic should do a server install then kubuntu-desktop?
[09:45] <c0rrupt`> its when kkubuntu is loading
[09:45] <dyrne> jbmagic: go with kubuntu cd
[09:45] <jbmagic> dyrne:  how come? thanks
[09:45] <c0rrupt`> then i get
[09:45] <ruudb> Oops. I had tried apt-get install mplayer-586. It works witj mozilla-mplayer. Thnx
[09:45] <ogami1972> ok- thanks anyway - ubuntu uber alles
[09:45] <jbmagic> dyrne:  any difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[09:45] <c0rrupt`> alert! /dev/hdc1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[09:45] <dyrne> jbmagic: ubuntu is gnome kubuntu is kde
[09:46] <jbmagic> thanks
[09:46] <yogi> does Flight4 support ati r4xx with xorg?
[09:46] <c0rrupt`> bustbox v1.00-pre10
[09:46] <c0rrupt`> busy*
[09:46] <Kube> Please someone -> I cannot run Ubuntu on my system. It just freezes when I run it with LiveCd, and when I install it after I login nothing happens. I can only move my mouse.
[09:46] <c0rrupt`> i dont think its grub at all
[09:46] <jbmagic> dyrne: WILL i be able to get gnome added to it later if i want?
[09:46] <Wilhen> Hello people  I am very new to ubuntu and have an internet connection problem I can't seem to solve.  Is there someone who is willing to help me?
[09:46] <theD3viL> Kube: do you have newest hardware ?
[09:47] <dyrne> jbmagic: its as simple as sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <jimcooncat> c0rrupt`, I think I installed bustbox
[09:47] <c0rrupt`> ...
[09:47] <rambo3> remster ubuntu cd 1 . use server install default. install xserver-xorg, freevo. create maps for movies,pictures, audio . remove usless stuff from cd . that shoulden't be hard should it
[09:47] <jbmagic> what the command t update ubuntu version and update all the apps you have?
[09:47] <dyrne> jbmagic: then you just choose between kde and gnome at login screen
[09:47] <jbmagic> dyrne: thanks
[09:48] <jbmagic> with ubuntu is it easy to update the kernel and kde, gnome, etc on it?
[09:48] <Seveas> jbmagic, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (or use the 'smart upgrade' in the graphical package manager)
[09:48] <Seveas> jbmagic, insanely easy
[09:48] <jbmagic> wow thanks so much
[09:48] <Kube> How can i reconfigure my video driver for Vesa?
[09:48] <Gnumannen> It seems like I have som basic X11 fonts missing, how can I get them?
[09:48] <benplaut> hal failed in the last boot... what log would i check to see the error?
[09:48] <jbmagic> downloading it now kubundu
[09:48] <Seveas> Kube, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:49] <theD3viL> is backports good for system or not? they are safe ?
[09:49] <Kube> thanks
[09:49] <Seveas> Gnumannen, did that hapen after upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[09:49] <Kube> Seveas could that be done with LiveCD?
[09:49] <Gnumannen> Seveas: No, I'm on Dapper and never had anything else
[09:49] <Seveas> theD3viL, it's recommended to only use them when needed
[09:49] <jbmagic> on installation will it tell me how much swap, etc i need? or i need to partition first?
[09:49] <rance> does anyone have a status report about mysqli packages for php, I had occasion to write a script for somone but had to back down the mysql server version because I couldnt find the right php mysql client version
[09:49] <Seveas> jbmagic, if you want to sacrifice your whole disk to Ubuntu it'll do it automagically
[09:50] <Seveas> otherwise you need to partition manually (from within the installer)
[09:50] <ssstormy> what do I have to do to my firewall to allow pinging a dhcp client (of my computer)?
[09:50] <ssstormy> I'm using firestarter, and when I stop it, ping works, but...
[09:50] <jbmagic> Seveas:  the installation walkthru is easy when installing ubuntu?
[09:50] <theD3viL> Seveas: i knew it..ppls using them for all the system. What about next ubuntu relase...is it recommended clean install or dist-upgrade (upgrade leaves many garbe at system, right =/?)
[09:50] <Seveas> jbmagic, yes
[09:50] <Mouldy> Are there any 'real' advantages of using the 64bit version over the 32bit?
[09:51] <adriyel> Mouldy, for the avg end user, no
[09:51] <Mouldy> ok
[09:51] <Seveas> theD3viL, upgrading leaves no garbage - my system is a warty-hoary-breezy-soon dapper system 
[09:51] <adriyel> Mouldy, mathematical/scientific/encryption related stuff is where the benefit lies
[09:51] <adriyel> Mouldy, more functionality in 32 bit
[09:51] <adriyel> Mouldy, using an AMD 64, fine and happy with 32
[09:51] <jbmagic> thanks all. will i be able to come to chat while it installing if i am stuck?
[09:51] <ssstormy> when's dapper coming officially?
[09:51] <Mouldy> adriyel: Thanks. I think I'll just use 32bit then
[09:51] <ssstormy> jbmagic, it depends on whether you have another ocmputer
[09:52] <jbmagic> ok
[09:52] <Seveas> jbmagic, not if you don't have another pc for irc - during install you can do nothing but watch the installer
[09:52] <jbmagic> ok
[09:52] <theD3viL> Seveas: before you ware using debian? Hm...no garbage? What about xorg6.8.2 - 7 ... it leaves 50-100mb of trash..i think :$
[09:52] <Mouldy> does anyone happen to know how to read ext2 formatted floppies in windows XP?
[09:52] <Seveas> theD3viL, not on my systems
[09:53] <relak> Sorry, how can i create a new Account in Evolution Mail? I asked that once, i'm kinda blind
[09:53] <Seveas> Mouldy, google for ext2+windows
[09:53] <Seveas> relak, edit->preferences
[09:53] <trashsquad> Hey Yall
[09:53] <jimcooncat> jbmagic, I'd keep a live cd or Knoppix in case of major problem, like power outage during install. But I'm paranoid
[09:53] <kwiat> hey does anyone know a nice tool that says me what's going on on tv (germany)?
[09:53] <theD3viL> Seveas: hm..xorg7 uses new directoryes, but dist-upgrade do not delete them
[09:53] <trashsquad> okay i need to set up my LCD screen so i dont have the default res
[09:53] <Mouldy> Seveas: thanks, found a good sit
[09:53] <Mouldy> *site
[09:53] <relak> Seveas, thanks :>
[09:53] <jbmagic> jimcooncat: good idea
[09:54] <Seveas> theD3viL, several compatibility symlinks are present in Xorg 7 packages
[09:54] <trashsquad> And i tryed to change the resolution but it only has one
[09:54] <trashsquad> i need it to be 1024X768
[09:54] <Seveas> but interesting - I'll keep an eye on it when I upgrade next system
[09:54] <trashsquad> how do i do that
[09:54] <Wilhen> Hello I need a little help please.  I can't get my ubuntu computer online.
[09:54] <theD3viL> Seveas: can u explain me please (sry my english is bad)
[09:55] <alex_> please what's the default root password in breaze ???
[09:55] <dyrne> Wilhen: what kind of connection? cable? dsl? seperate router?
[09:55] <Seveas> theD3viL, My guess is that those 'leftovers' are there intentionally, but when I upgrade my next system I'll watch it closely
[09:55] <Seveas> !tell alex_ about root
[09:55] <jimcooncat> Wilhen, is your ubuntu computer on a lan with your other one?
[09:55] <gusaweb> hello !
[09:55] <bluefoxicy> ubotu:  libdvdcss2
[09:55] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[09:55] <trashsquad> How do i add more screen resolutions then just 640X408
[09:55] <Wilhen> dsl connection
[09:56] <trappist> trashsquad: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:56] <gusaweb> does anyone have had problems using telnetd and inetd on breezy?
[09:56] <Wilhen> Lan I think
[09:56] <jimcooncat> Wilhen, an easy way is to turn on DHCP on your router if you can get to the configuration
[09:57] <theD3viL> Seveas: okey, .. hm..but why then, if there arent any of waste files, there is 500mb of space less if you dist-upgrade
[09:57] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  ping?
[09:57] <Wilhen> I don't use a router I have a hub
[09:57] <Seveas> theD3viL, sudo apt-get clean
[09:57] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, pong
[09:57] <bluefoxicy> Seveas: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas/extras Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_breezy-seveas_extras_binary-amd64_Packages)
[09:57] <dyrne> gusaweb: no experience with telnetd on breezy. there a reason youre not using ssh?
[09:57] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, i386 only
[09:57] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  libdvdcss2 for amd64 plz
[09:57] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  oh, anywhere I should look?
[09:57] <Kube> !seen khalil_
[09:57] <ubotu> khalil_ <n=khalil@213.181.175.19> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 17m 46s ago, saying: 'can someone please tell me how do you reconfigure the sound card on ubuntu breezy, anyone please'.
[09:57] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, apt-get build-dep; apt-get -b source
[09:58] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, or donate an amd64 machine to me ;)
[09:58] <theD3viL> Seveas: didnt know for this command :) .. what is command for removing program with all depencies?
[09:58] <cooldaddydoof> Hello all
[09:58] <Kube> Please someone Help!!!
[09:58] <alex_> thankx Seveas
[09:58] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  I don't have the $500 for you :)
[09:58] <cooldaddydoof>  I have a question
[09:58] <cooldaddydoof>  I just ghosted my one ubuntu machine using nortong ghost 2003
[09:58] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  else I would give you an amd64 machine the size of a shoe box  >:P
[09:58] <relak> Seveas, hmm i assume you are a Evolution User. Hopeing you are useing googlemail... do i need to check anything special because it does not work
[09:58] <johandc> Hello, i can't seem to find an upgrade guide to update from Hoary to Breezy, can you guide me in the direction?
[09:58] <cooldaddydoof> I am talking to you from the gthosted image, however
[09:58] <Seveas> theD3viL, there is no such command, debfoster helps keeping rogue dependencies under control (there is ongoing work to integrate this into apt)
[09:58] <gusaweb> dyrne yes, I am using telnet for my curses but not in real life
[09:58] <kwiat> i need help: does anyone know a nice tool that says me what's going on on tv (say, the weekly tv-programm broadcasted in germany's free-TV)?
[09:59] <cooldaddydoof> while installing the ghost I noticed that it set up an ext2 file system not ext3
[09:59] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, hehe  so then you'll have to do the apt-get build dep; apt-get -b source trick 
[09:59] <cooldaddydoof> anyway to check that  or what the side effectsa would be?
[09:59] <theD3viL> Seveas: cool ..
[09:59] <ubuntu> ola
[09:59] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  sudo apt-get build-dep; sudo apt-get -b source libdvdcss2?
[09:59] <jimcooncat> ubotu, tell johandc about breezy
[09:59] <Kube> could someone help me? I think the problem is with my VGA!
[10:00] <relak> googlemail FAQ says i need to set Ports.. but i do not see any textfield in Evolution i could set
[10:00] <ubuntu> BOA NOITE
[10:00] <Kube> Ubuntu will not load after I log in.. why ?
[10:00] <Wilhen> jimcooncat  can that be done in the modem
[10:00] <trashsquad> okay i tryed to change the resolution but no luck
[10:00] <Kube> I can only move my mouse.
[10:00] <Seveas> almost - add my source repo, sudo apt-get build-dep libdvdcss2; apt-get -b source libdvdcss2; sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2*.deb
[10:00] <ubuntu> jimcooncat you me
[10:00] <trashsquad> I am stuck with 680x480
[10:00] <jimcooncat> Wilhem, maybe if the modem supports it and you can log into it
[10:00] <szamosa> hi
[10:00] <szamosa> !nvidia
[10:00] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:00] <trashsquad> i have to change this any one have ideas>>>
[10:01] <mirak> I have lost the windows borders when I run compiz
[10:01] <mirak> anyone have a workaround ?
[10:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[10:01] <Wilhen> jimcooncat I don't think that is possible.  It has never been required
[10:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need a package...libpq4
[10:01] <Bain> is it ok to use Klik to install programs?
[10:01] <jimcooncat> Wilhen, otherwise you will have to go with pppoe
[10:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> ??libpq4
[10:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> is from postgresql
[10:02] <Seveas> !find lipq4
[10:02] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, keep an eye on ubotu, he's searchin
[10:02] <Kube> why wouldnt anybody help?
[10:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks
[10:02] <Seveas> Kube, maybe noone knoes the answer to your question
[10:02] <Seveas> !tell Kube about support
[10:03] <trashsquad> I need to change the resolution from 640X480 to 1024X768
[10:03] <trashsquad> And the Xconfig didnt work???Anyone have ideas
[10:03] <Wilhen> jimcooncat where can I go to get the best instructions on how I do that?
[10:03] <ubuntu> no da este site lol
[10:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'lipq4' returned no results.
[10:03] <Angel_Dex> How do i make ubuntu turn the lights off on my USB pens when i unmount them?
[10:03] <jimcooncat> Wilhen, install pppoe and pppoeconf
[10:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> :(
[10:03] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, it's simple: the package is also called libpq4
[10:03] <Seveas> (and ubotu is broken it seems)
[10:03] <eternaljoy> Seveas: will this command wipe my hdb drive securely clean, sector by sector?  sudo shred -n25 -v -z /dev/hdb
[10:04] <ubuntu> Seveas Aragorn_Guardian, it's simple: the package is also called libpq4 you
[10:04] <trashsquad> I need to change the resolution from 640X480 to 1024X768
[10:04] <trashsquad> I need to change the resolution from 640X480 to 1024X768
[10:04] <trashsquad> I need to change the resolution from 640X480 to 1024X768
[10:04] <eternaljoy> trashsquad: what? can you say that again?
[10:04] <blAckEn3d> is it worth to upgrade to dapper?
[10:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> in menu..
[10:04] <Seveas> eternaljoy, it comes quite close 
[10:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> system, preferences, screen resolution
[10:04] <jimcooncat> Wilhen, The pppoeconf program is userfriendly dialog based setup tool for pppoe and pppd. It will look for existing ethernet cards and look for ADSL hardware connected to one of them. Then it will get some login info and do some minor modification to make working settings.
[10:04] <eternaljoy> blAckEn3d: depends what you use it for
[10:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas:  dont found... :(
[10:04] <eternaljoy> Seveas: what comes close?
[10:04] <blAckEn3d> well, it's not a production system
[10:05] <blAckEn3d> i have a drupal install
[10:05] <blAckEn3d> but it's just a toy
[10:05] <eternaljoy> blAckEn3d: why would you want to upgrade it?
[10:05] <blAckEn3d> no production there
[10:05] <blAckEn3d> i'd like to test it
[10:05] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, it's in breezy main...
[10:05] <Seveas> !info libpq4
[10:05] <eternaljoy> Seveas: will this command work and securely clean hdb?  sudo shred -n7 -v -z /dev/hdb1
[10:05] <ubotu> libpq4: (PostgreSQL C client library), section libs, is optional. Version: 8.0.3-15ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 60 kB, Installed size: 588 kB
[10:05] <wastrel> yay
[10:05] <lol> How do i make ubuntu turn the lights off on my USB pens when i unmount them?
[10:05] <blAckEn3d> trashsquad, try xvidtune if anything else fails
[10:05] <Seveas> eternaljoy, as I said, it comes quite close 
[10:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...i serach in archive.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <gusaweb> someone who has experienced problems with telned ? (I know telnet is baaaad !)
[10:05] <Seveas> eternaljoy, there is no such thing as 100% secure - but this will do 
[10:06] <eternaljoy> Seveas: i dont understand!  what you mean it comes close?
[10:06] <eternaljoy> Seveas: ah ok ;) ty
[10:06] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, /ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgresql-8.0/libpq4_8.0.3-15ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:06] <eternaljoy> Seveas: should I change -n7 to the default of 25 wipes?
[10:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...thanks
[10:06] <Kube> Seveas there is nothing for my problem :s its really weird
[10:06] <eternaljoy> Seveas: can shred wipe my hda1 too of only the unused disk space?
[10:06] <Seveas> eternaljoy, anything that wipes more than 7 times is hard and expensive to restore
[10:07] <eternaljoy> Seveas: ok thanks
[10:07] <newretry> hello everyone
[10:07] <danl> whats the best package for encrypted dvd playback?
[10:07] <eternaljoy> danl: what country you live in?
[10:07] <newretry> im using ubuntu and having problems with WINGS3D
[10:07] <danl> us
[10:07] <funkyHat> I installed kcontrol so that I can make skype look nice, but it seems to be ignoring my settings
[10:08] <eternaljoy> Is there any advanced CAD program for Ubuntu?
[10:08] <rambo3> does anyone know where i can get minimal install cd iso /network-install type iso
[10:08] <newretry> synaptic : qcad
[10:08] <Yokalosh> what is spidermonkey and how do i get it? i am still confused about this
[10:08] <newretry> anyone can help with wings3d ?
[10:08] <Wilhen> jimcooncat If I already did that and did it wrong what problem will I have?
[10:08] <danl> eternaljoy: U.S.
[10:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas:  i see my error... i get other packages from universe, not main...
[10:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> is safe use universe?
[10:09] <newretry> it seems to be the redraw in wireframe, maybe monitor settings?
[10:09] <bjornkri> ohoy
[10:09] <oklinux> gouchi I got the realplayer working how do I make it a default player in mozilla browser ? right now it come up as mpplayer plugin .
[10:09] <bjornkri> Anyone running Ubuntu on a laptop?
[10:09] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, yes
[10:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> eternaljoy:  cad in linux have too few options...see in freshmeat to see cad sw
[10:09] <Seveas> bjornkri, as we speak 
[10:09] <bjornkri> My touchpad thing or whatever it's called seems hyper responsice
[10:09] <bjornkri> responsive
[10:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> eternaljoy:  i use some cad that i dont remember now...
[10:09] <Aragorn_Guardian> but...cad has a name..autocad...
[10:10] <bjornkri> Sometimes I'm just moving the pointer around and it clicks things that are under it :S
[10:10] <jimcooncat> Wilhen, you could purge those tools and reinstall
[10:10] <bjornkri> Anywhere you can change that, d'you reckon?
[10:10] <jimcooncat> but might be tough if you can't get to the net!
[10:10] <Wilhen> jimcooncat thanks for your help I will give that a try.
[10:11] <eternaljoy> Aragorn_Guardian: so there are no advanced CAD packages for Linux?
[10:11] <Aragorn_Guardian> there are few
[10:11] <eternaljoy> danl: then you are not allowed to playback enreypted DVD
[10:11] <soundray> Kube, still here? Sorry, had a telephone call.
[10:11] <Kube> soundray yea
[10:11] <Wilhen> bye all
[10:11] <danl> eternaljoy: so your telling me, i can't watch the dvd's i bought?
[10:11] <soundray> Kube, have you made any progress?
[10:12] <bjornkri> *groan* I'm running some updates and it's dead slow.
[10:12] <bjornkri> Like 2kb/s
[10:12] <wastrel> bjornkri:  i think in your xorg.conf file
[10:12] <jimcooncat> can I encrypt a partition that even the root user can't read?
[10:12] <bjornkri> xorg.conf you say
[10:12] <Kube> soundray no :s
[10:12] <bjornkri> Where would that be located?
[10:12] <Kube> It's making me crazy
[10:12] <wastrel> bjornkri:  i'm using the synaptics driver, there's a section in xorg.conf for it.  there are a lot of config options.
[10:12] <colm_asleep> danl, the legal grounding of DVDs is a bit shakey, you can read more about it here : http://www.afterdawn.com/software/alternative_platforms/linux_software/
[10:12] <eternaljoy> danl: not allowed on computer! thats right!
[10:12] <wastrel> bjornkri:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  - it's the config file for your X display server
[10:13] <bjornkri> Thanks, I'll give that a try :)
[10:13] <eternaljoy> danl:  you can watch them on a DVD playet however, as the decryption key has been paid for
[10:13] <wastrel> bjornkri:  /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/README.gz  should have config options.
[10:13] <danl> that sucks...
[10:13] <wastrel> bjornkri:  BACK UP the xorg.conf file before you mess around with it :] 
[10:13] <eternaljoy> danl: then you are not allowed to playback enrcypted DVD on computer
[10:14] <gusaweb> I need help on telnet
[10:14] <relak> why does my microphone not work?
[10:14] <soundray> Kube, the most frequent cause for this kind of problem are APIC and ACPI problems. I would start by looking in the BIOS setup for any option to do with APIC, toggle it and then try again.
[10:14] <eternaljoy> relak: soft voice? :)
[10:14] <oklinux> gouchi are you here ?
[10:14] <martii> Seveas: how can I check who is python-cairo maintainer?
[10:14] <eternaljoy> relak: wrong slot? :)
[10:14] <wastrel> gusaweb:  what's wrong with your telnet?
[10:14] <martii> Seveas: using apt for example
[10:14] <Kube> what's APIC soundray ?
[10:14] <TomaszD> I have a small request to anyone who is using Ubuntu PPC? Is anyone here using Ubuntu PPC?
[10:14] <soundray> Kube, to get into your BIOS setup, you have to press a key or two shortly after switching the machine on.
[10:14] <yggdrasil_> anyone here running vdr ?
[10:14] <danl> and i suppose, if i had said i was from france, there would be a way of doing it?
[10:14] <Kube> yeah I can get to my bios :)
[10:15] <soundray> Kube, Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller or something.
[10:15] <relak> eternaljoy, ? i do not get you
[10:15] <relak> i am a beginner
[10:15] <amphi> soundray: which key, is left as an exercise for the reader ;)
[10:15] <soundray> yggdrasil, yes, on a dedicated debian machine.
[10:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> !find libecpg-compat2
[10:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libecpg-compat2' (2 shown): libecpg-compat2 ;; libecpg-compat2.
[10:15] <jimcooncat> easy tool to encrypt a partition, anyone?
[10:15] <yggdrasil_> soundray im intersted in doing it with ubuntu
[10:16] <martii> !find python-cairo
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'python-cairo' (2 shown): python-cairo ;; python-cairo-dev.
[10:16] <soundray> amphi, and what a difficult one it can be...
[10:16] <relak> TS and Skype does not work with my microphone, it does fine under windows :-\
[10:16] <dw> hi there. is there somewhere i can find postgresql 8.1 packages for ubuntu?
[10:16] <martii> !find cairo
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'cairo' (7 shown): libcairo2 ;; libcairo2-dev ;; libcairo2-doc ;; python-cairo ;; python-cairo-dev ;; python2.3-cairo ;; python2.4-cairo.
[10:16] <dw> !find postgresql8.1
[10:16] <gusaweb> wastrel in /etc/inetd.conf, if I put this line, it does not work : telnet              stream  tcp     nowait  telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[10:16] <gusaweb> 
[10:16] <dw> !find postgres
[10:16] <Kube> i'll give it a try
[10:16] <Kube> what else might cause this?
[10:16] <Aragorn_Guardian> dw:  i am in this place.. 8)
[10:16] <soundray> yggdrasil, no guarantees that this works, but I would try adding e-tobi.net to the repos and installing vdr from there.
[10:16] <Aragorn_Guardian> dw:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgresql-8.0/
[10:17] <DCCOLE> guys
[10:17] <DCCOLE> i need help
[10:17] <soundray> Kube, ACPI causes that kind of trouble sometimes.
[10:17] <yggdrasil_> soundray only reason is because ubuntu seems to find my wireless card
[10:17] <DCCOLE> i cant change the resolution
[10:17] <yggdrasil_> i dont think debian would ....
[10:17] <soundray> Kube, but take it step by step.
[10:17] <DCCOLE> ive tried and tried but no luck
[10:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'postgresql8.1' returned no results.
[10:17] <soundray> yggdrasil, how good is your German?
[10:17] <DCCOLE> I am using a LCD screen
[10:17] <dw> Aragorn_Guardian: aah. will these work with hoary? /me doesn't understand much about ubuntu yet
[10:17] <Kube> soundray btw, Damn Small Linux works fine..
[10:17] <Kube> so does Windows :p
[10:18] <yggdrasil_> hahah not very,i guesse i should just get another hard drive for itim also trying to dual boot with windows so that i can keep using the windows dvb software
[10:18] <spikebike> anyone foloowing dapper and having audio problems on an amd64 machine?
[10:18] <DCCOLE> Can someone explain how to setup the resolution
[10:18] <pepsi> why does ubuntu install so much python crap by default for no reason?
[10:18] <soundray> yggdrasil, I was going to recommend c't vdr to you. You'll probably manage to switch it to English.
[10:18] <spikebike> firefox+flash used to work, no I get no audio
[10:18] <zasf> is there a xchat expert here?
[10:18] <wastrel> gusaweb:  i assume you have the telnetd package installed?
[10:18] <pepsi> zasf, #xchat
[10:19] <zasf> thanks pepsi
[10:19] <yggdrasil_> soundray im unclear as to what that is
[10:19] <yggdrasil_> c't ?
[10:19] <petaruwaru> I've got a question
[10:19] <soundray> Kube, if BIOS changes don't fix it, try the noapic kernel boot option first.
[10:19] <DCCOLE> Can someone explain how to setup the resolution
[10:19] <relak> whats required to enable my microphone?
[10:19] <gusaweb> wastrel sure. It works only if I replace telned.telned by root, or telned
[10:19] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas:  once more.. 8)   i have ubuntu hoary. packages from ubuntu that i found is from main, but all are from xxxx-breeze.deb, but there are xxxi386.deb.. i can install those i386? safelly?
[10:19] <pepsi> DCCOLE, in X?
[10:19] <pepsi> did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:19] <Kube> soundray yeah i tried noapic, didn't work?
[10:20] <Kube> *didnt work. <- sorry
[10:20] <petaruwaru> my brother just installed linux on his computer, it has windows and linux running on it now, dual-boot
[10:20] <soundray> Kube, nolapic?
[10:20] <Kube> that too
[10:20] <DCCOLE> Yes in X
[10:20] <petaruwaru> and now all of a sudden grub wont pop up when he boots, it gives him "error 15" and then wont do anything
[10:20] <soundray> Kube, acpi=off ?
[10:20] <newretry> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ChangeResolution
[10:20] <wastrel> gusaweb:  did you install the telnetd package or did you install it some other way?  do you have the proper telnetd entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group ?
[10:20] <Kube> let me check
[10:20] <Kube> just a sec soundray, brb
[10:21] <pepsi> DCCOLE, see if runing `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` works first
[10:21] <soundray> yggdrasil, http://www.heise.de/ct/ftp/projekte/vdr/news/08012006.shtml
[10:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> petaruwaru:  use a boot cd, can be even ububtu live cd...correct the grub and reboot again...always get a live cd...
[10:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> to make dirty job
[10:22] <gusaweb> wastrel I installed the package with apt, and the entries are correct, there is a group and a user called telned
[10:22] <johandc> Hello, my dapper flight4 cd hangs during boot on an amd64 system. It gets to configuraiton of xorg. And on tty1 i can see that /etc/X11/xorg.conf was not found, is this a known bug?
[10:22] <petaruwaru> alright, how do you correct grub? I'm pretty new to linux, just installed it on my own computer like a week ago
[10:22] <soundray> yggdrasil, version 4.5 comes with a 2.6.12 kernel. It may well work with your wireless.
[10:23] <yggdrasil_> soundray thinaks im looking into it
[10:23] <Geadin> vegeta of dragon ball z is the sheets
[10:23] <yggdrasil_> soundray pm ?
[10:23] <jorgis> petaruwaru: grub-install ?
[10:24] <ipfw> wastrel, you there ?
[10:24] <petaruwaru> jorgis: just put that in the terminal?
[10:25] <wastrel> gusaweb:  but you can't telnet to the machine?  did you restart inetd?  did you edit inetd.conf manually?   mine worked just fine after installing the package
[10:25] <wastrel> hi ipfw
[10:25] <ipfw> Aragorn_Guardian, how would you rate the Ubuntu LiveCD compared to say knoppix ?
[10:25] <jorgis> petaruwaru: yes, i think that was what I did last time
[10:25] <jorgis> perhaps add "sudo" in front of it to run is as root
[10:25] <petaruwaru> jorgis: alright, thanks
[10:25] <jorgis> sudo grub-install [device] , that is
[10:26] <ipfw> wastrel, just wanted to thank you again. Ubuntu is looking good now that I have xfce4 & some devel tools :)
[10:26] <jorgis> so you will need to fill in /dev/hda1 or whatever partition you installed on
[10:26] <soundray> yggdrasil_, seems that pm doesn't work. I've got to go soon anyway.
[10:26] <jmg> is there a hax to install the skype deb on dapper?
[10:26] <Seveas> !skype
[10:26] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:26] <gusaweb> wastrel I have the following line in daemon.log when restarting inetutils-inetd : telnet/tcp: No such user 'telnetd.telnetd', service ignored
[10:26] <soundray> yggdrasil, but ask me here.
[10:27] <relak> how to configure ubunutu so it lets my microphone work?
[10:27] <petaruwaru> jorgis: alright, how can I figure that out? I don't know how his installed, I didn't do it and he doesn't really know anything about how it works
[10:27] <eternaljoy> relak: what dont you get?
[10:27] <eternaljoy> relak: your mike is in the wrong slot
[10:27] <xhie> Does anyone know what I have to change in xorg.conf to get it to boot X rotated in portrait mode? or point me somewhere that has instructions
[10:27] <SzingSzang> hi :)
[10:27] <eternaljoy> Seveas: are there any advanced CAD packages for Ubuntu?
[10:28] <SzingSzang> Blender ?
[10:28] <jorgis> petaruwaru: hmm, running "df -h" in a terminal will list the filesystems on your disc, or you could run "mount" to check the partitions
[10:28] <SzingSzang> I've done something extremly stupid :/
[10:28] <soundray> xhie, not every driver supports that. If yours does, you'll find out from the man page.
[10:28] <benplaut> this is quite annoying.  I just installed dapper, copied my profile folder into the new one, and now (not sure if due to extensions or just the new version of firefox), whenever a scroll past the top or bottom of a page, it will bring me back or forward in history. I couldn't find an about:conf key for it, so anyone know what's going on?
[10:28] <monkey-leade> hi
[10:28] <monkey-leade> i am having problems with rndc
[10:29] <petaruwaru> jorgis: alright, thanks for helping out a noob
[10:29] <xhie> soundray, I know not every driver supports on the fly rotation but I thought you could boot with it rotated with any driver, thats not so?
[10:29] <SzingSzang> I've installled pkg-config... but I didn't know it and compiled another version of pkg-config and installed that... now I can re-install the pkg-config, I didnt know about before, but not deinstall the compiled one.... ???what to do ?
[10:29] <monkey-leade> i get "rndc: connect failed: connections refused" when stratinf/restarting bind
[10:29] <soundray> xhie, if it was, it would be news to me. But I'm not an X-pert as it were.
[10:29] <gusaweb> wastrel I have sold the problem with the help of a guy on #ubuntu-server
[10:30] <Aragorn_Guardian> ipfw:  sorry, i was in other screen
[10:30] <gusaweb> wastrel thanks a lot
[10:30] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu is amazing
[10:30] <wastrel> gusaweb:  heh good i was out of ideas... what was the problem?
[10:30] <llODxCOll> !skype
[10:30] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:30] <SzingSzang> anybody knows what to do next `??
[10:30] <llODxCOll> !gaim
[10:30] <ubotu> gaim is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[10:30] <monkey-leade> anyone here know anyhting about that?
[10:30] <SzingSzang> !pizza
[10:30] <ubotu> SzingSzang: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:30] <SzingSzang> :( damn
[10:30] <llODxCOll> haha
[10:30] <Aragorn_Guardian> ipfw:  it boots in more hardware then another one
[10:30] <gusaweb> wastrel in fact i used inetutils-inetd, and he may not support groups
[10:31] <wastrel> ahhhh
[10:31] <llODxCOll> remove those bans!
[10:31] <gusaweb> wastrel so I switched to netkit-inetd and the problem was solved
[10:31] <ti||> Hi, my headphone (intel_hda driver) jack isn't working, even after following teh steps at  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76307.html
[10:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> ipfw:  you can get all tool you want in archive...universe has all you want... 8)
[10:31] <llODxCOll> !rape
[10:31] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, llODxCOll
[10:31] <ti||> it does work when booting with a Dapper Drake live CD, though
[10:32] <llODxCOll> dapper has live cds out already
[10:32] <SzingSzang> I've installled pkg-config... but I didn't know it and compiled another version of pkg-config and installed that... now I can re-install the pkg-config, I didnt know about before, but not deinstall the compiled one.... ???what to do ?
[10:32] <ti||> is there a reasonably easy way to install the new kernel?
[10:33] <dyrne> ti||: sudo apt-get install linux-image-blah ?
[10:33] <ti||> tried that with the drapper drake source, didn't work
[10:33] <SzingSzang> could you help me plz :(
[10:33] <monkey-leade> anyone know howto get rndc up and running?
[10:33] <ti||> i.e., I put dapper in my sources.list, rendered my system not bootable
[10:33] <SzingSzang> hu..hu ?
[10:34] <relak> eternaljoy no! i changed the slot and it does not work
[10:34] <jenda> Does anybody here speak Turkish? I'm sorry for OT, but I need a turkish speaker...
[10:34] <asymmetry> hey all
[10:34] <TD-Linux> is there anything different between the development kubuntu and the stable one?
[10:34] <asymmetry> slack user here, thinking about moving to ubuntu
[10:34] <asymmetry> pros? cons?
[10:34] <dyrne> !tr
[10:34] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.
[10:34] <BlazedForever> how come i have to re-mount my slave drive every time i reboot?
[10:34] <wastrel> jenda:  i only know how to count to 10 and say hello :] 
[10:34] <SzingSzang> the stable one ist stable :)
[10:34] <SzingSzang> the other isn't
[10:34] <Lamer-X> i'm having troulbe when i install ubuntu on my Raptor hard drive, after it partitions it attempts to mount the filesystem and fails... anybody seen problems like this?
[10:34] <jenda> dyrne: thanks
[10:34] <SzingSzang> maybe isnt
[10:35] <TD-Linux> I just finished installing kubuntu.... and on first boot it gives me a tty1 terminal instead of KDE or anything
[10:35] <SzingSzang> is there anybody who could help a newB ??
[10:35] <SzingSzang> a newB that likes ubuntu but is too tired to do anything right :(
[10:35] <ti||> dyrne, shoudl I be ablte to install the 2.6.15-15 kernel package on breezy?
[10:35] <SzingSzang> I've installled pkg-config... but I didn't know it and compiled another version of pkg-config and installed that... now I can re-install the pkg-config, I didnt know about before, but not deinstall the compiled one.... ???what to do ?
[10:35] <BlazedForever> how come i have to re-mount my slave drive every time i reboot?
[10:36] <monkey-leade> hello
[10:36] <SzingSzang> hello
[10:36] <blAckEn3d> bye
[10:36] <SzingSzang> bye
[10:36] <TD-Linux> it boots semi-graphically... but then drops me down to a developer shell for some reason
[10:36] <dyrne> BlazedForever: you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[10:36] <SzingSzang> !GiveMePIzza
[10:36] <ubotu> SzingSzang: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:36] <SzingSzang> :/ damn
[10:36] <TD-Linux> isn't it supposed to give me another installer?
[10:36] <monkey-leade> anyone have experience with bind 9 and configuring rndc?????
[10:36] <SzingSzang> huh ?
[10:36] <SzingSzang> can you hear me ?
[10:37] <Lamer-X> nope
[10:37] <Lamer-X> lol
[10:37] <relak> please, does anyone having an idea why my microphone does not work (does fine on windows)? i changed the slots and its just the same
[10:37] <TD-Linux> oh oh... one thing didn't load right
[10:37] <TD-Linux> the resolver state
[10:37] <SzingSzang> same problem as relak :(
[10:37] <jimjim> does anyone here know of a way to track what process last accessed the disk?
[10:37] <TD-Linux> and now it drops me to a shell?
[10:37] <ti||> what's the proper way to build a kernel package?
[10:37] <Lamer-X> relak: did you make sure the recording volume is turned up and the mic is selected?
[10:38] <djmisiek> what is Hoary Hedgehog 5.04, Breezy Badger 5.10 and Dapper Drake 6.04 ????
[10:38] <jimjim> someting keeps using the disk every second an preventing it from spinning down
[10:38] <kristen> hello
[10:38] <dyrne> ti||: gentoo has some pretty good walkthroughs for that
[10:38] <ti||> thx
[10:38] <trappist> jimjim: what filesystem?
[10:38] <jimjim> ext3
[10:38] <SzingSzang> hello ?
[10:38] <SzingSzang> =(
[10:38] <SzingSzang> kk... I'm leaving
[10:38] <jimcooncat> djmisiek, those are Ubuntu versions, current is Breezy Badger
[10:39] <SzingSzang> c U
[10:39] <relak> Lamer-X, in Ubuntu or TS/Skype?
[10:39] <NET||abuse> ok, crap crap crap
[10:39] <ti||> trappist, if you have a dual boot Ubuntu/Win system, get the ext3 driver for windows (watch out, there's an old and a new one, get the new one)
[10:39] <NET||abuse> i got grub re-installed back onto the primary hard drive, however now nothing will load
[10:40] <NET||abuse> windows xp 64 won't run, and ubuntu won't either
[10:40] <djmisiek> jimcooncat and i have breezy badger?? :)
[10:40] <asymmetry> net||abuse: did you overwrite the mbr on the boot drive?
[10:40] <NET||abuse> asymmetry; yeh
[10:40] <asymmetry> asymmetry: thatd be your problem
[10:40] <Lamer-X> relak: you're having sound problems with skype? I dunno if i can help you there, i've been struggling with it... but yeah check in the volume control panel on ubuntu
[10:41] <NET||abuse> basically i have 2 drive, a sata which xp 64 runs off, then an ide which i've installed ubuntu on, however when i install on the ide the boot loader goes onto the ide, rather than the sata which is the primary.
[10:41] <Lamer-X> relak: skype has been flaky with the sound daemons for me
[10:41] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: so i had to load grub into the mbr on the /dev/sda which is the sata
[10:41] <asymmetry> net||abuse: is the boot partition on the ide marked bootable, and is the boot partition on the sata marked bootable?
[10:41] <ericf> I just installed dapper from flight3, and upgraded... But I can't find how to install multimedia codecs for video and audio (mp3, etc). Can you hint me?
[10:42] <mlistus> hi all
[10:42] <cafuego> !restrictedformats
[10:42] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:42] <NET||abuse> so when i try to boot ubuntu it says Botoing 'Ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-12-amd64-generic'
[10:42] <Lamer-X> anybody know why the ubuntu installer can't mount the drive after its formatted?
[10:42] <cafuego> ericf: Go to that wiki page, it lists 'em all.
[10:42] <mlistus> i need help about cd customization
[10:42] <wastrel> interesting.  is it common to see people scanning your ssh server trying to log in with a series of different usernames?
[10:42] <asymmetry> net||abuse, what os are you booted on?
[10:42] <NET||abuse> root(hd0,0) \n File system type unknown, partition type 0x7
[10:42] <ti||> dyrne, doesn't Ubuntu have a completeley different way of building packages than Gentoo?
[10:42] <cradek> wastrel: yes
[10:43] <wastrel> cradek:  anything i should be doing about that?
[10:43] <Lamer-X> wastrel: yeah i see it all the time on my box
[10:43] <jimjim> any idea what would be accessing the disk every second?
[10:43] <ti||> Can't I build a .deb and keep it all neat and clean?
[10:43] <relak> Lamer-X,  no it does not work with TeamSpeak too...
[10:43] <cradek> wastrel: whitelist the accounts you want to be able to log in over ssh, make sure they have good passwords.
[10:43] <ti||> i.e., a .deb from kernel sources?
[10:43] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: neither will now boot
[10:43] <relak> Lamer-X,  do you use TS?
[10:43] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: basically it's cacked both OS's
[10:43] <Lamer-X> relak: i've never used it
[10:44] <asymmetry> net||abuse: can you get ahold of a copy of partitionmagic on cd? boot with that, and check to make sure that the bootable flag on the boot partition on the ide drive is toggled off
[10:44] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: i'm havin a minor freak out now.. i've ballsed up my pc ;S
[10:44] <wastrel> cradek:  thx, good idea
[10:44] <bjornkri> I'm following the instructions at help.ubuntu.com (the starter guide), but I can't seem to get any multiverse repositores... :\ Can't see anything called "Non-free (Multiverse)". Any ideas?
[10:44] <Lamer-X> relak: have you tried any basic sound recording apps?
[10:44] <asymmetry> net||abuse: then pop in your winxp cd and boot to that, and get to a recovery console, and run the fixmbr command
[10:44] <ericf> cafuego: thanks. Those are gstreamer0.8 plugins, I believe Dapper has 0.10, but I'll Try them :)
[10:44] <relak> Lamer-X,  no
[10:44] <cradek> wastrel: some people restrict incoming ssh from addresses they know need it, but I've never done that because it takes away some of the utility of ssh
[10:44] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: is it worth trying to get the boot commands cause i think it's mixed up the two drives in the boot up.
[10:44] <Lamer-X> relak: see if it works with the "sound recorder" app
[10:45] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: when i boot xp it's saying Filesystem type is ext2fs
[10:45] <relak> Lamer-X,  does not work with it
[10:45] <asymmetry> net||abuse: what does it have each drive labelled as?
[10:45] <caffei> anyone know what happened to archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:45] <relak> Lamer-X, tried both slots on the backside of my pc
[10:45] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: so that sounds like it's looking at the ubuntu install??
[10:45] <asymmetry> net||abuse: the sata drive should be /dev/sda, and the ide should be /dev/hda
[10:45] <llODxCOll> anyone having trouble with apt-get update?
[10:45] <mlistus> i need help about cd customization
[10:45] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: it is.
[10:45] <Lamer-X> relak: did you check the volume control under the capture section?
[10:45] <jimjim> trappist: ext3, no other partitions present (other than swap)
[10:46] <NET||abuse> hda = ide drive with ubuntu, sda = sata drie with my xp 64 on
[10:46] <bjornkri> llODxCOll, yeah.. It's awfully slow, or stops completely for me
[10:46] <llODxCOll> it stops for me too
[10:46] <relak> Lamer-X, volume controler under the capture section?
[10:46] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: but somehow it's detecting ext2fs with the seleciton of xp
[10:46] <asymmetry> net||abuse: is that what the grub loader is calling, though?
[10:46] <bjornkri> Guess it's a relief it's not only me :\
[10:46] <relak> Lamer-X, where do i find that
[10:46] <ti||> hey guys, I would like to upgrade to kernel 2.6.15-15, without upgrading to Dapper Drake -- what tool to use?
[10:46] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: it's calling hd1 and hd0
[10:46] <bjornkri> Hope it'll start working properly soon
[10:46] <Lamer-X> relak: you know the speaker icon by the clock? double click on it and it will bring up a big panel
[10:46] <NET||abuse> so there's no mention of /dev/hda
[10:46] <NET||abuse> or /dev/sda
[10:47] <asymmetry> net||abuse: thats because of how grub works... which os is it calling from hd0?
[10:47] <Lamer-X> relak: then there will be a tab at the top that says "capture"
[10:47] <SzingSzang> Plz answer if you can "hear" me :o
[10:47] <NET||abuse> ubuntu has root(hd0,0)
[10:47] <ti||> SzingSzang: Schoene gruesse aus Kaligfornien
[10:47] <relak> Lamer-X, like record, yes i do see it
[10:47] <asymmetry> SzingSzang: to remove the other copy you compiled, go to the source dir and 'make remove' or 'make uninstall'
[10:47] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: so i take it hd0 is trying to mount up that drive?
[10:47] <Lamer-X> relak: ok is the mic turned up and everything?
[10:48] <asymmetry> net||abuse: WHICH os is it calling from hd0?
[10:48] <jimcooncat> is encfs an easy way to make an encrypted filesystem?
[10:48] <OmegaAlphairssi> amphi
[10:48] <NET||abuse> do i need to change root(hd0,0) for the ubuntu loadup over to root(hd1,0)?
[10:48] <NET||abuse> ubuntu boot, first line in boot up commands in grub = root(hd0,0)
[10:48] <Lamer-X> relak make sure there is no red x on the mute button too
[10:48] <asymmetry> net||abuse: yes, because the sata drive is termed as the first boot device: hd0.
[10:48] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: yeh, so i'm write, somereason it's screwed up the drive allocation :)
[10:49] <relak> Lamer-X, ok i enabled all
[10:49] <relak> and raised all to the limit
[10:49] <Lamer-X> relak: now try the sound recorder app before you try skype or anything
[10:49] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: umm, s/write/right/ :S oops
[10:49] <OmegaAlpha> OmegaAlphairssi stop copying my name
[10:49] <OmegaAlphairssi> you copied off me
[10:49] <asymmetry> net||abuse: most installers check for ide drives first, then sata drives, so it happens every now and then
[10:49] <asymmetry> funny thing is, im not on ubuntu (yet)...
[10:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> whats the difference between: 8.0.3-15ubuntu1 and 8.0.3-15ubuntu2...how can i see this????
[10:49] <asymmetry> running on slackware right now, waiting for by breezy badger dvd to finish downloading
[10:50] <NET||abuse> yay, that 2worked :)
[10:50] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: ok, so i need to fix it for my windows setup next :)
[10:50] <BlazedForever> how do i add my slave drive to fstab?
[10:50] <relak> Lamer-X,  nothing happens :-(
[10:50] <Lamer-X> you tried both jacks on your sound card?
[10:50] <asymmetry> net||abuse: there's actually a way to get your unbuntu install to boot from the winxp loader
[10:50] <relak> yes
[10:50] <SzingSzang> asmmetry: sorry, it doesn't work :(
[10:50] <relak> but works on windows
[10:51] <NET||abuse> yay: :) well, i'll get xp to boot from grub, cause grub is nice and configurable :)
[10:51] <Lamer-X> hmm
[10:51] <bjornkri> retrieving packages from security.ubuntu.com keeps failing
[10:51] <asymmetry> net||abuse: so is the ntloader, if you monkey with it right
[10:51] <NET||abuse> asymmetry; phew, now i know the boot commands in grub can be re-organised :) i'll fix xp succesfully :)
[10:51] <bjornkri> anyone else having the same problem?
[10:51] <Lamer-X> relak: whats your sound card?
[10:51] <asymmetry> SzingSzang: go into the source dir and type 'more Makefile' (I think that's it...)
[10:51] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: yeh, but it's not intended to be messed with that much :)
[10:51] <relak> Lamer-X on-board soundMAX
[10:51] <dyrne> ti||: i though you wanted to compile your own. you could just get it from           /"\
[10:51] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: thanks :)
[10:51] <asymmetry> net||abuse: i do it all the time
[10:52] <asymmetry> SzingSzang: youll see headers for each operation that make can run on that source ball
[10:52] <asymmetry> SzingSzang: look for anything that would be like 'remove' or 'uninstall'
[10:52] <NET||abuse> right, next trick :) xorg.conf muahahahahahaha the dark arts of x config :)
[10:52] <ti||> dyrne: not necessarily -- just need a new version to get my headphone jack to work
[10:52] <asymmetry> SzingSzang: note - anything with clean in it isnt what you want
[10:52] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: ok... (forgot ./configure >.<)
[10:52] <Lamer-X> relak: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38333
[10:53] <dyrne> ti||: you can download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <TD-Linux> I'm downloading the stable release of kubuntu now to see if that one likes me better
[10:53] <ti||> and that should work with Breezy?
[10:53] <NET||abuse> hmm, ok, nvidia drivers :)
[10:53] <cyphase> Can somone go to http://blog.cyphase.com/ and tell me what you see in the status bar when you hover over that top link (Found here.)?
[10:53] <cyphase> is it the link itself, or the redirection page on my blog?
[10:53] <Lamer-X> relak: sounds like the default driver setup is to use those jacks as the surround outputs and you gotta change them to mic and line in
[10:53] <ideafix> any one using konversation ?
[10:53] <asymmetry> i downloaded kubuntu, and it barely worked... s'what i get for going kde
[10:53] <ideafix> any one using konversation ?
[10:53] <Kube> !seen sound
[10:53] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'sound', Kube
[10:54] <dyrne> ti||: there might be other debs to download it will list dependancies maybe not the best way but..
[10:54] <Kube> soundsomething :/
[10:54] <NET||abuse> arrrrrrrrgggg..... lspci VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unkown device 0092 (rev al)
[10:54] <ideafix> how do i reenable the menus ?
[10:54] <ideafix> how do i reenable the menus ? in konversation ?
[10:54] <wastrel> soundray
[10:54] <ti||> ok, I'll try. Thanks, dyrne!
[10:54] <TD-Linux> cyphase: it links to your home page of your blog
[10:54] <cyphase> ..
[10:54] <jroes> is switching back from xfce to GNOME as simple as sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, or is it already installed and I can just switch it from the login screen?
[10:54] <cyphase> TD-Linux, the link in the top post
[10:54] <TD-Linux> oh
[10:55] <Xenguy> jroes: use 'session' at login screen
[10:55] <cyphase> when you hover over the link, what does it say in the status bar?
[10:55] <Xenguy> jroes: if you used gnome before
[10:55] <Drac[Server] > The new ubuntu is a duckie! O_<;
[10:56] <asymmetry> net||abuse: nvidia has drivers for their cards for linux on their website
[10:56] <TD-Linux> cyphase: it is a link to a php script on your blog site that redirects to where you want to go
[10:56] <cyphase> ok
[10:56] <cyphase> thanx
[10:56] <insidious> any easy way to change the default language?
[10:56] <djmisiek> how to delete one line in /etc/apt/sources.list ???
[10:57] <relak> Lamer-X,  post #4 by leo.nava, where the OSS mixer?
[10:57] <mlistus> bye
[10:57] <Xenguy> djmisiek: do you have a favourite text editor?
[10:57] <Lamer-X> relak: i think they just mean the mixer that you had open
[10:57] <djmisiek> in ubuntu not yet :)
[10:58] <Xenguy> djmisiek: open a terminal and get root (sudo -i)
[10:58] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: sweet good call :)
[10:58] <wastrel> i'm wearing jeans
[10:58] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: .Trash/pkg-config-0.19/glib-1.2.8/.libs/libglib.a >.<
[10:58] <djmisiek> Xenguy, done
[10:59] <Lamer-X> i can't install to my SATA hard drive on my Silicon Image PCI SATA card, it says "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext3 ihn SCSI2 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda1) at / failed"
[10:59] <Xenguy> djmisiek: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[10:59] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: one more question about the grub commands, in the xp boot, it starts with root (hd1,0) then 2 lines down it has map (hd0) (hd1)\n map (hd1) (hd0)
[11:00] <asymmetry> net||abuse: that remaps the drive so that xp sees them in the correct order
[11:00] <Gnumannen> I can't find Fluxbox in apt, how can I add it?
[11:00] <djmisiek> Xenguy, ok
[11:00] <Xenguy> djmisiek: vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:00] <NET||abuse> asymmetry; ahh, but it's already gettin it back as hd1,0 is what it's starting with, and obviously that's wrong.
[11:01] <mirak> is there a device in /dev/ that could accept commands like command line ?
[11:01] <Xenguy> djmisiek: use 'j' to scroll down, juse 'k' to scroll up...
[11:01] <NET||abuse> asymmetry: i mean getting it wrong..
[11:01] <NET||abuse> umm
[11:01] <asymmetry> net||abuse: does it boot up and work correctly?
[11:01] <bogoff> Hiya. I've just successfully installed Ubuntu along side Windows (Dual-Boot). Now, been playing about inside Ubuntu and I've added a few applications through the rather sexy 'Add Applications' feature. It's installed the application (anti-virus software) and stated it's in 'Applications->Accessories', but it isn't in the list, even after a logout and re-login? I also tried installing Firestarter (Firewall) and had the same issue.
[11:01] <bogoff> After going into SMEG and 'Add'ing a new entry, both Firestarter icons then appeared in the menu?
[11:01] <Xenguy> djmisiek: find the line you want to delete and place cursor there
[11:01] <Lamer-X> mirak: you mean to change your sound card inputs?
[11:01] <Angel_Dex> Hallu!
[11:01] <relak> Lamer-X, what are your settings there?
[11:01] <Nukeador> hi all
[11:01] <mirak> Lamer-X: no I want to simulate a keypress
[11:01] <Angel_Dex> Why cant i remount my pendrive without having to remove it?
[11:01] <djmisiek> Xenguy, thank you..
[11:01] <Xenguy> djmisiek: dd   (this will delete the whole line)
[11:02] <SzingSzang> asymmetrie: :/ maybe I should just remove ubuntu and install it again ?
[11:02] <Xenguy> djmisiek: ZZ   (this will save and close)
[11:02] <SzingSzang> asymmetrie: or is there a way, which is faster
[11:02] <Lamer-X> relak: i dont have surround, so that option isn't available on my system
[11:02] <djmisiek> Xenguy, ok but can i write something?
[11:02] <Lamer-X> relak: try installing the alsa-utils package and run alsa-mixer from the command line
[11:02] <mirak> Lamer-X: the command /usr/bin/xte 'key F12' simulate a key press of F12 key, the inconvenient is that it's loaded from file system, while /dev is not really on the hard drive if I am not mistaken
[11:03] <bogoff> Really don't understand why this is doing this... really odd. If I remove one of the entries, they both go? :(
[11:03] <djmisiek> Xenguy, i deleted one important letter
[11:03] <Xenguy> djmisiek: sure - hit 'i' to enter 'insert' mode (and Esc to go back to normal mode)
[11:03] <asymmetry> SzingSzang: Does it cause you any functional problems?
[11:03] <djmisiek> Xenguy, ok thx..
[11:03] <Lamer-X> mirak: whats wrong with that comman then? do you need it to be a device for some reason?
[11:03] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: yes... can't compile GTK+ Programs
[11:04] <asymmetry> SzingSzang: oh, that sucks... not really sure other than removing it what else you should do
[11:04] <relak> Lamer-X, its already the newest alsa-utils package
[11:04] <Lamer-X> relak: then run alsa-mixer from a terminal
[11:04] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: *wanted to write the same*... I don't know how to remove it
[11:04] <Xenguy> djmisiek: when done editing you need to do an 'sudo apt-get update' of course
[11:04] <dempa> can anybody tip me of a program to record what i do on the desktop?
[11:04] <SzingSzang> asymmtery: I tried make uninstall.. it did do something
[11:04] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: but I can't see it :-[
[11:04] <Angel_Dex> any good ideas for a USB port inside the case?
[11:05] <Quinch> Can someone recommend me a good download manager for Linux?
[11:05] <Jormundgand> wget.
[11:05] <bogoff> hypn0, I haven't got a registered nickname, so I can't reply to your query :)
[11:05] <Xenguy> Quinch: wget
[11:05] <relak> Lamer-X, where is alsa-mixer?
[11:05] <Seveas> Quinch, gwget, d4x...
[11:05] <Lamer-X> open a terminal and type it... i think hold on
[11:06] <mirak> Lamer-X: what I am doing is binding compiz expos function to the F12 key, then brightside a programm wich detects when mouse is put in the corners of the screen can run that /usr/bin/xte 'key F12' command. Only problem is that the programm is run from the file system, introducing some lantency
[11:06] <Quinch> Alright, thanks.
[11:06] <relak> bash: alsa-mixer: command not found
[11:06] <Xenguy> no hyphen
[11:06] <bogoff> hypn0, replied.
[11:06] <Lamer-X> mirak: wow sounds way above my head... sorry i can't help ya on that one
[11:06] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: I think I'm just too ")#X(?=)" at the moment... maybe I should try it later
[11:06] <Lamer-X> relak: open a terminal, then type alsamixer, sorry theres no hyphen in it
[11:07] <Nukeador> ive read doces of how to enable my ATI 3D aceleration but always when i edit the xorg.conf config remplacing ATI with fglrx, the X dont start, any idea/recomendation?
[11:07] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: I can't even speak English @mom :D ... :(
[11:07] <relak> Lamer-X, done
[11:07] <Angel_Dex> any good ideas for a USB port inside the case?
[11:07] <dyrne> Nukeador: youve been through wiki?
[11:08] <Nunquam_Fidelis> does anyone have a link for the Gaim 2.0 Beta 2 Debian package?
[11:08] <Nukeador> dyrne, yes
[11:08] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: Thank you anyway :] 
[11:08] <Lamer-X> relak: so is there any options in there to change the jacks to mic instead of center / sub or surround?
[11:08] <asymmetry> SzingSzang, sorry i couldnt help more.
[11:08] <adriyel> what is a one word way of saying in english "to increase the punishment" or "to increase the seriousness of punishments" ?
[11:08] <Nukeador> dyrne, ive done all the steps with no result
[11:08] <adriyel> anyone know?
[11:08] <dyrne> Nukeador: then no advise sorry.  never owned an ati card
[11:08] <asymmetry> adriyel: own
[11:09] <adriyel> asymmetry, wtf?
[11:09] <SzingSzang> asymmtry: ^^ you just can't... I'm too new to Linux
[11:09] <adriyel> sigh.
[11:09] <adriyel> seriously, does anyone know?
[11:09] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: and I didn't spell your name right just 2 times :(
[11:09] <wastrel> adriyel:  i don't know if there's a word for that in english
[11:09] <adriyel> wastrel, I coulda sworn there waws
[11:09] <adriyel> was
[11:09] <Nukeador> Anybody here have set up the ATI 3D acel?
[11:09] <asymmetry> adriyel, gimme a sec
[11:10] <relak> Lamer-X,  i don't really know
[11:10] <relak> narf
[11:10] <asymmetry> adriyel, yeah, i got nothing, sorry
[11:10] <adriyel> dang it
[11:10] <wastrel> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/thesaurus?book=Thesaurus&va=punish&x=10&y=14   :] 
[11:11] <wastrel> best i can do for you adriyel...   let me know if you figure it out :] 
[11:11] <Lamer-X> relak: i dunno what else to tell ya, i'm pretty sure thats the problem though is that those jacks are being used as outputs
[11:11] <SzingSzang> asymmetry: cu :), don't stop helping people
[11:11] <asymmetry> SzingSzang, good luck
[11:12] <relak> Lamer-X, well! shit
[11:12] <dimasta> how I can make smaller icons in the menu bar on the top?
[11:12] <dempa> anybody knows of a screenrecorder?
[11:12] <benplaut> can someone in dapper test something for me?
[11:12] <squiddle> #gentoo-de
[11:12] <adriyel> increase consequences
[11:12] <asymmetry> dempa, fraps, not sure if they have a linux version
[11:12] <adriyel> enhance penalties
[11:12] <adriyel> higher fines
[11:13] <relak> what's the program named in english under the Audio Recorder?
[11:13] <sohmc> is there a way for me to instal ubuntu via FTP?
[11:14] <Xenguy> sohmc: perhaps a 'network install' is what you are after?
[11:14] <dooglus> is there a problem with archive.ubuntu.com?  it seems very slow at the moment.
[11:14] <Nukeador> ive read doces of how to enable my ATI 3D aceleration but always when i edit the xorg.conf config remplacing ATI with fglrx, the X dont start, any idea/recomendation?
[11:14] <angelo> how to i have ubuntu bootup into text mode istead of the gui
[11:14] <angelo> do*
[11:14] <Xenguy> sohmc: try STFW; I know debian has a network install, so I assume that Ubu does too.
[11:14] <squiddle> dempa  have you tried istanbul? http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
[11:14] <sohmc> Xenguy, yeah
[11:14] <sacul_> can anyone help me mount my raid0 SATA array with my MP3 collection on it
[11:14] <sacul_> ?
[11:14] <dimasta> how I can make smaller icons in the menu bar on the topp?
[11:15] <sohmc> Xenguy, STFW?
[11:15] <ericf> I'm running dapper and have gstreamer0.8-mad installed, but mp3 can't be played by totem. Is it because dapper uses gstreamer0.10? I can't find mp3 codecs for it... Everybody is enthousiastic gstreamer0.10, how to use it?
[11:15] <che> ubuntu question:  i installed ubuntu with xp as a dualboot.  if i reboot with no boot disc in the optical drive, i get "GRUB _(blinking cursor" and it just hangs.  if i throw in, for example, the xp disc and let it boot but don't "Press any key to boot from CD..." when it skips past that part and continues booting to the hard drive it THEN loads GRUB properly.  it's on a toshiba notebook, single 80gb drive partitioned by u
[11:15] <che> any ideas?  hate to be a n00b, but i am.  :D
[11:15] <Xenguy> sohmc: search the *fine* web  ;-)
[11:15] <angelo> how do i have ubuntu bootup into text mode istead of the gui
[11:16] <suseforge> Che: did you install your bootloader to your master boot record?
[11:16] <asymmetry> che, not sure about that one, sorry
[11:16] <sohmc> Xenguy, thanks for the suggestion.  I've tried it and gotten poor results
[11:16] <suseforge> I have had the same problem, that was what caused it
[11:16] <che> suseforge, whatever the default is.  sorry.  that's as best as i can answer that.  as far as i know it would have put it in the mbr.
[11:16] <Xenguy> sohmc: really, hrm.  I would have thought this was one of the standard install methods somewhere on the wiki, but don't know for sure
[11:16] <che> oh.
[11:17] <dyrne> gotta rememeber to turn streamripper off ripped 2000 songs lol
[11:17] <adriyel> !seen KoruptidPryde
[11:17] <ubotu> koruptidpryde <n=andrew@c-68-42-204-122.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 20h 54m 56s ago, saying: 'heya.... anybody have any original windows 3.1 disks?'.
[11:17] <sohmc> Xenguy, I thought so too...fedora's FTP method is buried under documentation.
[11:17] <ericf> sohmc: You mean in the applicatoins menu under sound&video? gnome-sound-recorder. You can right-click it, add to panel, check properties
[11:17] <sohmc> Xenguy, my guess is that they don't want people eating up bandwidth
[11:17] <suseforge> che: for some reason the bootloader is not being found.
[11:17] <sohmc> ericf, I think you're talking to the wrong guy.  ;-)
[11:18] <che> so it shouldn't be there.  :D  so should i run recovery console, fixmbr and reinstall ubuntu without it going into the mbr?  i just installed it overnight so i'm not too worried about a reinstall.  i'm just confused that it finds it no problem if it tries to boot the xp cd first, but not otherwise
[11:18] <Xenguy> sohmc: search google for 'Ubuntu network install'
[11:18] <ericf> sohmc: you're right
[11:18] <ericf> relak: You mean in the applicatoins menu under sound&video? gnome-sound-recorder. You can right-click it, add to panel, check properties
[11:18] <benplaut> in dapper, start firefox with `firefox -ProfileManager`, and make a new profile
[11:18] <benplaut> open the browser with that profile, and go to any other page
[11:18] <asymmetry> che, theres nothing wrong with the bootloader being in the mbr - boot up to ubuntu and force it to reload grub into the mbr
[11:18] <benplaut> flick your scroll wheel up and down, fast, and does anything odd happen?
[11:18] <relak> ericf yes i tried nearly all possibliities
[11:19] <suseforge> che:that would be the easiest solution or take a look at this thread let me find it
[11:19] <bimberi> sohmc: there are some 'advanced' install methods described via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:19] <relak> just something that might help
[11:19] <sacul_> can anyone help me mount my raid0 SATA array with my MP3 collection on it?
[11:19] <sohmc> Xenguy:: bimberi:: thanks...I think I got it
[11:19] <jenda> Anyone know about Labtec keyboards on Ubuntu?
[11:19] <che> asymmetry, how do i force it to reload grub into the mbr?  and suseforge, thanks
[11:19] <LiteHedded> i need to set up an ftp server and don't know where to start
[11:20] <dyrne> LiteHedded: sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[11:20] <dyrne> LiteHedded: thats just one server but the one i prefer
[11:20] <sohmc> thanks for your help, Xenguy & bimberi
[11:20] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Does anyone know where I can get the deb package for Gaim 2.0 Beta 2?
[11:20] <LiteHedded> where can i learn how to set it up?
[11:20] <relak> i hear my music using a stero hifi thing, where i get the sound from the pc and then put the cable in the systembox. if i use my mic cable insteab of the computer ones shouldnt i hea myself?
[11:20] <bimberi> sohmc: yw :)
[11:20] <LiteHedded> i have vsftpd installed
[11:20] <asymmetry> che, you need to find a grub sourceball, compile it, and run it - the version of grub thats installed is just the package, afaik
[11:20] <philuk861> is there anyway to detect what version of ubuntu is using, im writing an app which needs this info during runtime.
[11:21] <relak> Lamer-X,  + ericf, read my last text please
[11:21] <relak> because i do not hear it
[11:21] <zebraFusion> I've edited my GDM log in screen and the color it boots with, but how can I change the splash looking screen that shows Nautilus starting up?
[11:21] <LiteHedded> dyrne: can you help me set it up?
[11:21] <dyrne> LiteHedded: not much to setup it will already start at bootup and such.  but take a look at /etc/vsftpd.conf file. or man vsftpd.conf
[11:21] <relak> is my mic broken or? worked on windows
[11:21] <dyrne> LiteHedded: if you have any questions ill try to answer
[11:21] <LiteHedded> k
[11:21] <suseforge> che: follow this thread if it doesnt work for you do your reinstall http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409993
[11:21] <Xenguy> sohmc: yw
[11:21] <angelo> how do i have ubuntu bootup into text mode istead of the gui
[11:22] <che> thanks much suseforge
[11:22] <LiteHedded> do I need to create an ftp user?
[11:22] <Xenguy> angelo: disable /etc/init.d/gdm
[11:22] <xored> thats how i configured my iptables http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8985, bot why i can not connect to NFS on both, 192.168.178.25 and ...21 ??
[11:22] <hypa7ia> i'm having trouble getting vsftpd working with tls under ubuntu hoary... when i set ssl_enable=NO then /etc/init.d/vsftpd will start, when YES it won't.  any ideas?
[11:23] <suseforge> che: let me know if it works...you can hit me up at suseforge@linuxmail.org if you have any more problems, or just post of the thread
[11:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zebraFusion: gnome-splashscreen-manager
[11:23] <angelo> how would i go about thatt
[11:23] <angelo> iam newbie
[11:23] <Xenguy> angelo: system > administration > services
[11:23] <dyrne> LiteHedded: regular system users will be able to login.  and anonymous unless you disable.  to create virtual users ..i wont be much help with that
[11:23] <zebraFusion> PuMpErNiCkLe, is that a .deb?
[11:23] <Xenguy> angelo: might work
[11:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zebraFusion: Yeah, it's in the repositories.
[11:23] <ericf> relak: mic cable?? you plugged in a microphone AND you connected your audio-out to your hifi? Then, yes. Double-click audio-applet at right top and make sure you have mic capture AND playback enabled
[11:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> universe section
[11:23] <protron> I LIKE UBUNTU!
[11:24] <zebraFusion> Ubuntu is pretty cool, no doubt.
[11:24] <che> thanks a million.
[11:24] <ElcMawr> hello, anybody use SuperCollider here?
[11:24] <mahangu> how can i kill anything that is using dpkg?
[11:24] <seven> hey all
[11:24] <LiteHedded> do I set the anonymous home dir in the conf?
[11:24] <asymmetry> mahangu, ps ax | grep dpkg, and kill each one
[11:24] <dyrne> LiteHedded: yes
[11:24] <seven> i own an nVidia graphics adapter and i just installed a 686 kernel-image, but X won't load on it... any help?
[11:25] <LiteHedded> i can't find the option for it in there dyrne. what's it called?
[11:25] <trappist> seven: new kernel means new nvidia drivers
[11:25] <angelo> xenguy : so should i uncheck the graphical login manager?
[11:25] <seven> trappist, yes but which ones should i get? nvidia-glx is already installed
[11:25] <mahangu> asymmetry, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) <-- does that mean the repo is down?
[11:25] <relak> ericf, look, my pc has 3 audio slots, 1 line-in, 1 mic, 1 out. i connected a Y thing to the out slot so i can put there my HEADSETS EAR and my hifi, and to the mic-slot i connected my HEADSET Microphone
[11:26] <Alexi5> hello
[11:26] <zebraFusion> What's the command to reconfigure xorg.conf?
[11:26] <trappist> seven: that's not what needs to be rebuilt for a new kernel.  nvidia-kernel, I think it is
[11:26] <zebraFusion> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:26] <trappist> zebraFusion: yep
[11:26] <ericf> relak: Then, yes. Double-click audio-applet at right top and make sure you have mic capture AND playback enabled
[11:26] <bimberi> zebraFusion: yes, with sudo though
[11:26] <seven> trappist, thanks will try it
[11:26] <bogoff> So any ideas why applications aren't showing in the menus after being installed?
[11:26] <tbaa> Is there a program to replace "Derive" in windows? (a graph drawer and more..)
[11:27] <ElcMawr> calling any supercollider knowledge... speak to me...
[11:27] <Xenguy> angelo: right
[11:28] <ElcMawr> peace out
[11:29] <trashsquad> update hoary to breezy
[11:29] <angelo> i get a warning msg is that ok?
[11:29] <ltibor65> Hi guys! Are there a good video editing program for Ubuntu?
[11:29] <trashsquad> how do i update hoary to breezy
[11:29] <Alexi5> when is the great dapper coming out
[11:29] <trashsquad> Ubunt: update hoary
[11:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell trashsquad about breezy
[11:30] <llODxCOll> dapper comes out in april
[11:30] <bimberi> !dapper
[11:30] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[11:30] <relak> ericf does not work, i checked them both
[11:30] <trashsquad> how do i change sources.list
[11:30] <ericf> relak: good luck ;)
[11:30] <farous> anyone know if gnome 2.14 will be shipped with dapper or not
[11:30] <relak> :\
[11:30] <Alexi5> next 2 months and we have dapper
[11:30] <dyrne> ltibor65: cinelerra but never used it myself
[11:30] <bimberi> trashsquad: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <trashsquad> theres a website right
[11:31] <bimberi> !sources
[11:31] <trashsquad>  to explain it???
[11:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:31] <LiteHedded> how /wc
[11:32] <zebraFusion> What's ubuntu's next build name?
[11:32] <llODxCOll> dapper
[11:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !dapper
[11:32] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[11:32] <relak> ericf, now i get "zzzzz ZZZZz zZZZ z" lol
[11:32] <relak> after i switched to A/D Converter
[11:33] <piromana> in KDE CTRL+ALT+DELETE give you logout+restart+shutdown option - what is the equivalent in Gnome?
[11:33] <relak> AC-Link does a fine "zZzzzzzzzzZZz zZz zZz " to, equilvelent to the length of my record
[11:33] <zebraFusion> piromana, do you want to restart x or the entire system?
[11:33] <sacul_> I could really use some help on mounting an existing fakeRaid SATA array please...
[11:33] <Alexi5> which desktop enviroment do you guys love the most
[11:34] <dyrne> xfce or kde
[11:34] <llODxCOll> well breezy is the latest
[11:34] <Jormundgand> When will they release the info on what the next release will be?
[11:34] <llODxCOll> there aren't many to choose from
[11:34] <piromana> zebraFusion - well, i want to do all - but CTRL+ALT+BAckspace restarts X, no?
[11:34] <llODxCOll> wow
[11:34] <ideafix> any one using flight ?
[11:34] <Alexi5> don't you guys like gnome
[11:34] <ideafix> any one using flight4 ?
[11:34] <llODxCOll> !dapper
[11:34] <Jormundgand> (That is, what Dapper+1 will be called.)
[11:34] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[11:34] <tbaa> Alexi5 love it.
[11:34] <roostishaw> !dapper
[11:34] <Alexi5> oh ok
[11:35] <ideafix> !flight4 ?
[11:35] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[11:35] <ideafix> !flight4
[11:35] <farous> Alexi5: ion3 fluxbox and gnome here they are equally great
[11:35] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[11:35] <piromana> zebraFusion - i want to be able to shut down or reboot with a shortcut
[11:35] <Jormundgand> Alexi5: I'm using mostly GNOME, but I have Kwin rather than Metacity.
[11:35] <FunnyLookinHat> Per the announcment of the new Gnome 2.14 coming out around march 15, do you think the next ubuntu release will have it??
[11:35] <Alexi5> ever since i installed ubuntu on saturday i can't trll when last i went unto my windows xp machine
[11:35] <Evodawg> E17 or ION
[11:35] <Alexi5> ok
[11:35] <wizardjames> i am trying to use tight vnc to use my ubuntu install from my windows computer. but it keeps closeing
[11:36] <bimberi> piromana: set one up via   System -> Prefererences -> Keyboards Shorcuts
[11:36] <zebraFusion> piromana, I'm not sure on a shortcut to shut down or reboot, I just looked through keyboard shortcuts and there's nothing there. Sorry.
[11:36] <Alexi5> ubuntu is really addictive
[11:37] <bimberi> zebraFusion, piromana: 'Log Out'  (2nd one under Desktop)
[11:37] <piromana> bimberi - ok, i see... just changed from KDE to Gnome with an update to Dapper after 5 years in KDE - it's all new:)
[11:37] <ktw> hi folks. anyone here running j2sdk 5.0 under ubuntu 6.04? how to install j2sdk? i've read a lot of howtos, but they use java-config which is not included in 6.04.
[11:38] <Alexi5> so i guess most of you guys here are bored of kde
[11:38] <Jormundgand> Kwin is good. amaroK is good.
[11:38] <wastrel> FunnyLookinHat:  i would be surprised if dapper had it, but i really have no clue about these things :]   just it seems to me dapper is due out only a month later, which doesn't seem enough time for testing & stuff...
[11:38] <Nukeador> ive read doces of how to enable my ATI 3D aceleration but always when i edit the xorg.conf config remplacing ATI with fglrx, the X dont start, any idea/recomendation?
[11:38] <zebraFusion> bimberi, is that shut down or reboot, though?
[11:38] <wizardjames> does ubuntu need anything for tightvnc to login it, besides remote desktop enebaled?
[11:39] <farous> Nukeador: what card u have
[11:39] <Nukeador> ATI 9600 XT
[11:39] <bimberi> zebraFusion: it launches the same thing as System -> Log Out
[11:39] <FunnyLookinHat> wastrel, ahh ok.  Thanks!
[11:39] <farous> !tell Nukeador about ati
[11:39] <dyrne> wizardjames: never used tightvnc im sure its fine but consider installing freenx
[11:39] <KrimsomBOX> hello
[11:39] <farous> Nukeador: i followed this how to and 3-d works great here
[11:39] <Nukeador> ive read em
[11:40] <zebraFusion> dyrne, what's superior about freenx to VNC apps?
[11:40] <bimberi> zebraFusion: ... which includes those options (on mine anyway) :)
[11:40] <farous> Nukeador:  i nearly have the same cards as yours
[11:40] <Nukeador> the problem is after editing xorg.conf
[11:40] <Nukeador> changing ATI with fglrx
[11:40] <Nukeador> and then
[11:40] <farous> Nukeador: did you install the kernel modules too
[11:40] <Nukeador> the X doesnt restart
[11:40] <Nukeador> yes yes
[11:40] <Nukeador> i have everything installed
[11:40] <farous> Nukeador: paste your xorg.conf file
[11:40] <wizardjames> dyrne i am on windows, i am trying to control my othercomputer remotely with tightvnc.. but is there anythign i need to install first on ubuntu for it to work.. i got it working right now, but it closes after just a few mins
[11:40] <farous> use the pastebin
[11:41] <Nukeador> ok
[11:41] <wastrel> Nukeador:  are you restarting your computer or just restarting X?
[11:41] <dyrne> zebraFusion: compression- its usable on a 56k modem, and it does alot of the work on the server end. just seems more streamlined
[11:41] <ktw> no one running j2sdk under dapper here?
[11:41] <bimberi> farous: phew, you had me worried there :)
[11:41] <Nukeador> just ctr alt backspace
[11:41] <bogoff> What firewall ports do I need open to use the Ubuntu 'Add Application' tool?
[11:41] <Nukeador> farous, now i have the default xorg.conf
[11:41] <farous> bimberi: though i assume people know about the pastebin by now
[11:41] <scott> anyone care to help with a sound problem?
[11:41] <dpaterso> having trouble with VNC
[11:41] <Nukeador> the only modification is ATI for fglrx in driver
[11:41] <dyrne> wizardjames: try a few diff vnc clients it seems like you might have everything setup right
[11:42] <zebraFusion> General Linux question... What's the difference betwen bz2 and gz compression?
[11:42] <farous> Nukeador: you need to restart the pc for the kernel moudles to kick in
[11:42] <rewt_> scott, what's the problem?
[11:42] <bogoff> Does anyone care to help me at all?
[11:42] <rewt_> dpaterso, What about VNC?
[11:42] <bimberi> farous: hehe, only the regulars
[11:42] <Nukeador> farous, ok ill give a try :)
[11:42] <cyblivious> has anyone installed xorg 7.0 to breezy?
[11:42] <farous> Nukeador: good luck then
[11:42] <rewt_> bogoff, with?
[11:42] <scott> rewt_: a couple days ago sound became garbled and then stopped working entirely.. not sure if I "fried" the card or if it is an alsa thing
[11:43] <Jormundgand> Has anyone else had crinkly sound with the new gizmo, ALSA libsipphoneapi?
[11:43] <bimberi> farous: lol
[11:43] <scott> rewt_: I haven't tried a differnet OS
[11:43] <bogoff> rewt_, *sigh* WHat port do I need to add to my firewall in-order to get the 'Add Application' software to work with downloading new packages etc?
[11:43] <farous> haha :)
[11:43] <rewt_> Scott...try a different OS to see if it;s the card or somthing with linux.
[11:43] <henzo> hi
[11:43] <IdleOne> !tell bogoff  about repositories
[11:43] <bogoff> rewt_, Also, when I do successfully add a new package and it "adds" it to the menu, the application doesn't actually appear in the menu at all.
[11:43] <henzo> bye
[11:43] <trappist> bogoff: 80
[11:43] <scott> rewt_: ok, just thought there might be a diagnostic (ran out of ideas from google).
[11:43] <rewt_> Bogoff, restart GDM,
[11:44] <bogoff> trappist, 80 is open to any remote host.
[11:44] <scott> rewt_: thanks for the help!
[11:44] <GTX> Guys how do I sync the time
[11:44] <bogoff> rewt_, how?
[11:44] <dpaterso> I can VNC to the Mac at the office from my MAC laptop.  Doesn't work yet with ubuntu.
[11:44] <GTX> Guys how do I sync the time, on my linux server its runnning ubuntu
[11:44] <bogoff> !tell bogoff about repositories
[11:44] <green_earz> scott: run a copy of knoppix on the box to test the sound card
[11:44] <trappist> bogoff: that's the only port you need to poke through your firewall for installing packages
[11:44] <scott> green_earz: cool, good idea. Thanks!!!
[11:44] <green_earz> np
[11:45] <bogoff> trappist, seems to be failing here, but it is open for sure.
[11:45] <bimberi> bogoff: not all apps add to the menu (yes, it's annoying).  That said, sometimes restarting the panel with 'killall gnome-panel' can make new entries appear.
[11:45] <GTX> Guys how do I sync the time, on my linux server its runnning ubuntu
[11:45] <trappist> bogoff: stands to reason it's not a firewall issue, but without more details that's all I got
[11:45] <dpaterso> Is there a simple how-to for VNC
[11:45] <trappist> GTX: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[11:46] <dyrne> dpaterso: wiki.ubuntu.com for all your needs :)
[11:46] <dpaterso> :) got it
[11:46] <BcD> hi all. I'm trying to install ubuntu for the first time, but I'm having some problems that I have no id how to fix, so if any one could help me through this it would be great =)
[11:46] <bogoff> bimberi, never worked :)
[11:46] <zebraFusion> General Linux question... What's the difference betwen bz2 and gz compression?
[11:46] <bogoff> trappist, what else do you want to know?
[11:46] <bimberi> bogoff: kk
[11:46] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  bz2 is supposably smaller, gz is older
[11:46] <spikebike> zebra jsut different algorithms
[11:47] <spikebike> bz2 is better on binary stuff, .gz is sometimes better on text
[11:47] <trappist> bogoff: "failed" isn't very descriptive.  it's often helpful to say something about what happens when you try to do something.
[11:47] <green_earz> GTX:  have a look at installing ntpdate   so the machine can keep time with a ntp time server of the ntp time server at your isp
[11:47] <IdleOne> BcD:  whats the problem
[11:48] <bogoff> trappist, well it doesn't give me anything else, otherwise I'd include any such details - also, it doesn't seem to be my firewall as I've disabled it and it still aint downloading.
[11:48] <IdleOne> bogoff:  what package?
[11:48] <bogoff> Konsole
[11:48] <BcD> well when I'm trying to install the first error that apears is " Input/outpu error during read on /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/disk ERROR ERROR
[11:48] <bogoff> "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4c2_3.4.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb"
[11:48] <IdleOne> did you enable universe and multiverse?
[11:49] <IdleOne> !universe
[11:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:49] <trappist> bogoff: it times out? connection refused? takes you right back to the console? blows up in your face?
[11:49] <bimberi> GTX: if ntpdate is installed you can run 'sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate start'
[11:49] <videoapelsin> !azureus
[11:49] <ubotu> well, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:53] <grigora> hi, I am trying to use gmplayer to play DVDs, but it crashes when I try to open the disk, does anyone know what I need to have installed to be able to play DVDs? thanks
[11:53] <bogoff> trappist, IdleOne: OK I added the multiverse (did the universe before) and I tried again - Konsole when downloading package 1 of 11 just hangs. Does nothing.
[11:53] <killfill> hi
[11:54] <trappist> !tell grigora about restricted
[11:54] <killfill> im testing the Xg.. how do i make windows transparents?...
[11:54] <andrew_226> I am having trouble with totem
[11:54] <IdleOne> bogoff:  lemme try gimme a sec
[11:54] <wastrel> sigh
[11:54] <arkanes> is upgrading from breezy to dapper as simple as changing the repos?
[11:54] <arkanes> or is there a howto somwhere?
[11:56] <bogoff> IdleOne, http://www.ragdollstudios.com/downloading.png
[11:56] <bimberi> arkanes: yes you can do it that way, it would be a good idea to ensure that ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base are installed too, as per this page...
[11:56] <bimberi> !breezy
[11:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:56] <IdleOne> bogoff:  I get same error repo must be down try in a couple hours maybe
[11:57] <andrew_226> hello?
[11:57] <grigora> trappist: many thanks
[11:57] <dyrne> andrew_226: hello
[11:58] <_vincent> hi, I get a problem with my /etc/group, can someone give me the groups a default user is member of ?
[11:58] <andrew_226> dyrne: I wasn't sure if you could see me or not
[11:58] <axisys> hey all
[11:58] <IdleOne> andrew_226:  more specific information might help...what kind of trouble?
[11:58] <dyrne> who said that?
[11:58] <axisys> i am looking for a tool to import jpg files and draw a diagram
[11:59] <dyrne> andrew_226: sorry what was question?
[11:59] <andrew_226> Idleone: I am having trouble with video playback in totem playback is light and very jittery
[11:59] <farous> axisys: import it to what and draw a diag using which prog
[11:59] <axisys> something that visio can do but for ubuntu
[11:59] <navarone> _vincent, my installation user is in these groups : adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[11:59] <farous> axisys: openoffice can do that but you need to be more specific
[12:00] <axisys> i have some images of routers from images.google.com