[12:06] infinitezeros: why did you change the topic? [12:06] allee: yes - it worked fine till i fubar'ed my install, and hence reinstalled [12:07] now it's worked once, and i'm trying to get it to work again, but it seems very tempramental [12:07] Hobbsee: ipw2200 driver? [12:07] i didnt do it on purpose riddell.... im sorry its my irc client [12:07] will try to set it right hold on [12:07] allee: no, it's a netgear wg511 v2 card - works with ndiswrapper === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Flight 4 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Wed, Feb 22nd 2006 - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- be there! === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:infinitezeros] : kubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Flight 4 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Wed, Feb 22nd 2006 - 20:00 UTC -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- be there! [12:08] that better? [12:08] thanks Hobbsee [12:08] :) [12:08] thanks hobbsee [12:09] :) no problems [12:09] Hobbsee: mhmm, okay. I have to rmmod/modprobe ipw2200 when I use wpa. [12:09] allee: i tried out the 0.11rc1 version of ndiswrapper, or whatever it is - not sure if that's the problem. but i'm very tempted to get knetworkmanager from cvs and try that as well - kwifimanager has a tendancy to lie! [12:10] I don't think knetworkmanager is in CVS [12:10] ah ok - i had it working, until i cancelled out of the wpa test thing, which you're supposed to be able to do [12:10] i thought that's how you'd said you'd gotten it... [12:11] BTW, the guidance team just showed that it took _only_ten_minutes_ from bugreport to ' [12:11] fix is in svn'. :-) [12:11] wow! [12:11] I should have reported it to bugs.kde.org, then you would have made the stats :) [12:11] Heh :> [12:11] Next time then. [12:11] Are playground bugs valid? [12:11] sure [12:12] allee: did you try hwcrypto=0 option - it helped me on ipw2200 [12:12] Aye! === infinitezeros [n=infinite@dialup-mum-203.94.233.225.mtnl.net.in] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [12:13] luka74: no. But I'll try on time. [12:13] testing... [12:13] so new release of guidance or shall I patch? === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] A patch is fine, I guess. [12:16] It's otherwise really only that space. [12:16] ok, will do [12:16] +single [12:16] tomorrow though, bedtime now [12:16] And we've got it in svn already too. [12:16] Ok. [12:16] Sleep well (here too). === sebas >> bed aswell. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:19] heh night sebas and Riddell [12:19] hi Mez [12:20] hey Sarah === Hobbsee wonders who sarah is again...oh yes, that's me! [12:24] hmm...newer version of wpa supplicant here... [12:28] ping? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] pinging me ? [12:40] was trying to see if my network connection was there at all. if i was pinging you, i'd say Mez: ping === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.14] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee attempts to hack into a wiki page to make it more easy to understand === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wonders if she should seek permission before making such massive changes to the page on WPA [02:45] Hobbsee: hi [02:45] hi freeflying :) [03:29] done :) === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:33] Hobbsee: where? [03:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto [03:34] freeflying: ^ [03:34] oh crud! i'd forgotten about the kubuntu meeting hehe! [03:35] Hobbsee: cool , I'd translate it into Chinese [03:35] :) [03:35] you can [03:35] Hobbsee: meeting? [03:35] see /topic or fridge.ubuntu.com === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-104.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@221.172.51.154] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:53] Riddell, ping [08:31] hmm, anyone with an idea why is libapt-front still in dep-wait? [08:32] blocked by ia64? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:48] I need package more packages ,anyone will give me advice === Hobbsee suspects she's going to get very used to these early meetings at 20.00 UTC - seeing as she's at them for the next 2 days... [09:01] Hobbsee: it's quite early for me . :) [09:01] hehe [09:01] 4am or something? [09:02] Hobbsee: y, 4:00 AM [09:02] ycuk [09:02] yeah [09:02] :/ === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:06] heya === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] please move the kde-guidance displayhw script to later in the bootup sequence (see #32268). [11:05] nope [11:05] oops [11:08] viviersf: hi [11:09] Riddell, hello, i have to remember what i wanted to ask :/ [11:11] mornfall: libapt-front is fine but adept tried to build before libapt-front was compiled [11:12] Riddell: libapt-front is failed on ia64 (says launchpad) [11:12] possibly due to tagcoll being b0rked on the arch [11:14] mornfall: ia64 is just broken like that [11:14] aha [11:16] hmm no, it is due to broken tagcoll [11:18] right, i meant why is ept in dep-wait [11:20] just because it tried to build before libapt-front was done [11:20] we'll need to wait for infinity to wake up to ask for it to be given back [11:20] didn't kdevelop used to have licenses in it so you could select GPL from the new project wizzard? [11:20] ahum [11:20] okey [11:20] seaLne: sounds about right [11:21] seaLne: could be another case of the kdevelop->kdevelop3 rename breaking things [11:22] cause it means you end up with no license automatically inserted and have to edit every file manually [11:33] Riddell: netswitch is packaged, I'm currently packaging gnetswitch, and I should get a tarball for knetswitch today [11:38] cool [11:38] these fonts do look big now with the DPI set [11:38] Riddell: kubuntu-default-settings will set all fonts to 9 by defualt [11:39] 8 or 9 depending [11:39] but the actual default for you is 12 I think no ? [11:39] I think 9 is a good compromise, but I personnaly prefer 8, what do you think ? [11:39] 11 I think [11:39] 11 by default ?????? [11:39] Tonio_: any idea what gnome uses? would be good to do the same [11:39] gnome is 9 I think [11:40] and 10 for rare things [11:41] osx and windows are the equivalent of 9 and 8 respectively [11:43] Riddell: http://planetemu.net/temp/capture1.png [11:44] that's 9 and I can confirm I have exactly the same size with gnome [11:46] in ubuntu is there any similar concept to /etc/rc.local ie a way of things getting run at startup without aving to write init scripts?? [11:46] looks nice [11:47] seaLne: I don't think so (could well be wrong) [11:48] yeah, bah [11:49] hmm /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh [11:49] Riddell: I'm correcting the amarokrc today and will send you the kubuntu-default-settings package tomorrow [11:51] hunger: when does /usr become available? [11:53] Riddell: a proper way seems to be placing scripts in /etc/rc.boot [12:28] _Sime: I'll change displayconfig-hwprobe.py to S37, so it's after mountall === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:49] hi Hobbsee [12:49] hey Riddell [12:50] you should add a list of package you've touched to your wiki page [12:50] packages [12:50] *nods* [12:50] *tries to remember what they are* [12:54] ah ha! now i'm remembering them [12:55] <_Sime> Riddell: good [12:59] updated :) === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] Riddell: hi [01:16] hi freeflying [01:16] Riddell: you have uploaded qt? [01:18] freeflying: yes [01:20] Riddell: I prepare apply for devel membership , will u give me any advice [01:21] freeflying: the guy who reported that kde crashed on logout said the new qt fixed it so looks like those patches do the stuff [01:22] Riddell: yeah, but after kde-3.5.1, i've not experienced that crash [01:23] freeflying: your packages often need some corrections, I'm not sure if you should go for devel membership yet, dunno [01:23] Riddell: so I need more experience :) [01:30] Any estimation on when kubuntu will suspend again? [01:44] doko: Worked for me. [01:44] doko: Was awfully slow for the last couple of min though. [01:50] Riddell: another issue with new kpowersave - it wants to remove powernowd [01:50] but powernowd is needed by *ubuntu-desktop :-( === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] (this is with 0.5.7 packages I was trying to repackage from debian) [01:52] luka74: maybe they can remove that in ubuntu-devel, too. They use gnome-power-manager now which at least offers a gui to config it. [01:54] it looks like I will need to install Ubuntu once - just to understand how it works.. ;-) [01:54] luka74: Pretty well wrt. power management. [01:54] luka74: it is gnome though... so the other apps suck. [01:55] the problem is the kpowersave has so many features that steps on Ubuntu implementation... [01:56] luka74: yeah, that's why I want to strip out all those features and just use the ubuntu ones :) [01:56] kpowersave looks really good. [01:56] that seems to be getting harder and harder with each release of kpowersave === hunger thinks the GUI sucks:-) [01:57] Riddell: have you see another forwarded e-mail - it seems that there are just two incompatible views [01:57] on how PM should be implemented [01:57] And it does not want my laptop to suspend to RAM [01:58] hunger: if pmi is failing I think your problem is with the ubuntu scripts, not KDE [01:58] well, could be linux, not just the scripts of course [01:58] Riddell: /etc/acpi/sleep.sh works fine. [01:59] Riddell: acpid recognizes the suspend button, too. [01:59] hunger: and pmi? [02:06] Riddell: pmi action suspend does a suspend/resume cycle (as does pmi action hibernate). [02:06] Riddell: The box does not stay down. [02:07] Riddell: The same happens nowadays with /etc/acpi/sleep.sh:-( [02:07] Riddell: So this no longer is a kubuntu issue. [02:21] Tonio_: Plus the decissions reached will be documented, so we do not need to repeat the discussions all the time.~. [02:21] Sorry for that! [02:22] Tonio_: now that moodin is in main you can add the kubuntu moodin splash and kdm theme to k-d-s [02:22] if you haven't already [02:28] what moodin ? [02:28] *whats [02:30] hunger, Riddell : it is done for a month at least ;) [02:31] hunger: what's the problem ? sorry but I missed something I think ;) === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] hey Tonio_ Riddell === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Lmnar"] [02:33] robotgeek: ? [02:34] hey Tonio_ , just saying hi [02:35] ah okay...... sorry but I'm actually between 10 things........ my brain doesn't follow correctly ;) [02:35] Tonio_: sorry to disturb, just could not resist! [02:35] ;) [02:43] viviersf: a fancy splashs screen for KDE === luka74 [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] Riddell: your guidance commit. changelog says 35, but in diff 18 is replace by 37. I hope the changelog is wrong ;) [04:01] it should be 37 [04:01] yeah, my mistake, but no harm done [04:06] Tonio_: ping === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying looking for mentor fro package === freeflying wonder who can ? [04:23] me [04:23] jpatrick: cool.thx [04:23] where is it? [04:23] revu [04:24] well. which one? [04:34] Riddell: can you appect http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1917 ? === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:53] hello jjesse [04:58] hello jpatrick [05:14] jpatrick: pong [05:14] sorry to be so late ;) [05:14] crazy day for me [05:14] Tonio_: no problem [05:14] jpatrick: did you upload kleansweep finally ? [05:15] Tonio_: just wanted you to know, you are cleared to upload kleansweep [05:15] hum [05:15] I don't like to upload my own stuff ;) [05:15] but I will lol [05:17] Tonio_: it's fun ;-) [05:17] uploaded [05:17] you'll get an email... [05:17] good ;) I really wanted kleansweep in ubuntu, it's a very very good application [05:18] jpatrick: I already uploaded stuff, just that in my vision, my stuff should be uploaded by the latest approving motu ;) [05:18] strange to upload own stuff [05:18] can you look at kwin-style-crystal? [05:19] latest improving motu? [05:20] jpatrick: I will in a few minutes yes [05:24] jpatrick: kwin-style-crystal is nice according to the debian folder [05:24] but I'm not fine with those cpp files without any licence information [05:24] that's a major issue, because it make those sources not GPL [05:25] I can't put a YES on that..... you should contact the upstream to get a corrected tarball, and then you'll get a yes immediatly [05:25] too bad FF is tommorrow... [05:25] I know.......... [05:25] can't we upload? [05:28] how about kautoclick? === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.14] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:45] jpatrick: need confirmation, but personally I would advocate this.... [05:45] a licence issue isn't a small one [05:45] it's GPL on kde-look.org :) [05:47] yes bt the only legal way to gpl a source is to put the licence info in the source files I think........ [05:47] even the copying file isn't enought [05:47] I'm looking at kautoclick [05:48] :/ ok, I'll ask someone else [05:50] jpatrick: I'm sorry with this, but I need to sure on that point what to do.... [05:50] jpatrick: looking a kautoclick [05:51] what 's on the bottom of the copyright file ? [05:51] "This manual page.........." [05:51] was written by me [05:52] I know that :) [05:52] but why putting that in copyright ? [05:53] but okay, that's not an error [05:53] because it's under my copyright? [05:53] the package looks nice ;) [05:53] :) [05:54] jpatrick: I'm building, but that sounds nice :) [05:54] just that the copyright file could be a bit more "clear" [05:54] just puting the copyright info for the man and a Licence section concerning "the all application and debian/bla.docbook" [05:54] for example [05:55] I copied what was at the end of debian/kautoclick.1.docbook [05:56] I know ;) just that it is not necessary, but anyway, all infos are here, so the copyright is valid [06:00] jpatrick: advocated [06:00] yay! [06:01] I just added a little comment concerning the copyright file, which could be more clear in my view [06:02] jpatrick: hum........ I lost that ! the man page isn't cleaned at the end of build.... [06:02] what? it's in clean:: [06:03] clean/kautoclick:: [06:03] rm -f kautoclick.1 [06:03] it is in oups [06:03] doesn't work for me [06:03] clean:: might work [06:03] that's not a big issue, but for future package ;) [06:03] I always use clean:: === toma_ is now known as toma === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D017D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:08] right, reuploaded [06:08] jpatrick: I just modified my comment also, there is still a little problem I missed concerning the .desktop file [06:09] it is important to patch the .desktop file, adding GenericName and install it in XDG directory [06:09] I revued too fast... sorry [06:11] usr/share/applications/kde ? [06:11] yep [06:12] and the .desktop requires "GenericName" and "Categories" at least === huahua [n=hua@222.50.182.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:12] I'm doing that :) [06:12] thanks :) [06:12] with that done, I will ad a YES, no pb, the package is very nice apart from taht === huahua [n=hua@222.50.182.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:23] Tonio_: oKay, finished (I think) [06:24] is it on revu ? [06:24] yes [06:24] let me check [06:26] jpatrick: okay for the clean section, just build and it is removed [06:26] jpatrick: what about the .desktop file ? I don't see any install directive on rules and no patch [06:27] it hasn't updated yet :s [06:27] ah okay ;) [06:27] ok now [06:28] jpatrick: the .desktop file still misses Categories [06:28] d'oh [06:29] that's important because this is what defines where will the icon go in the K menu ;) [06:29] "Categories=Qt;KDE;" [06:29] also, the GenericName is what appears in the K menu nearby the application name [06:29] so the description is supposed to give a very short descrtive of the application [06:30] for example : Adept (Package Manager) [06:30] means that GenericName is set to "Package Manager" [06:30] otherwise, the entry in the K menu will be a bit crapy [06:30] that's all, the package is very clean ;) [06:30] :) [06:31] sorry for bugging you with this, but the .desktop is very important, because you see it's content directly in the K menu [06:32] yep === huahua [n=hua@222.50.182.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] Tonio_: ok, I've finished [06:41] jpatrick: cool ;) [06:43] oh finally, kcontrol-kdmtheme got in [06:46] jpatrick: 2 patches named kubuntu_01 [06:46] and concerning the .desktop : [06:46] s/Categories=Qt;KDE;/Categories=Qt;KDE;Utility; [06:47] that'll make it go in the Utilities section of the K menu [06:47] also, s/GenericName=A simple KDE Application/GenericName=Task Automation [06:48] what about the i18n's? [06:48] because I don't think seeying "Kautoclick (A simple KDE Application)" in the K menu is nice [06:48] hum [06:48] yes, that's a problem, and what I do is generally add GenericName and GenericName[fr] [06:49] then send the patch to upstream [06:49] I don't another solution [06:49] brb - supper [06:49] I don't [06:49] the problem is that a generic comment like "A simple KDE Application" will make the K menu crappy....... [06:50] if you look at kde stuff, you will see they have all languages directly in the .desktop file === hunger hates launchpad. [06:58] hunger: ping ? [06:58] Tonio_: Yes? [06:58] hunger: I didn't understood your comment at 14:21 ;) [06:59] Tonio_: If it is about that thing I said earlier with your name in front: forget it. [06:59] yes, I just wanted to understand :) [06:59] okay, no pb [06:59] Tonio_: I was sending ssh-escapes to recover a stuck session and somehow those got bitchx to do something on the other end of the seemingly dead line:-( === hunger thinks kpowersave looks promissing. [07:00] hunger: totally agree ;) [07:01] Is that going to get used for kubuntu? === hunger filed a couple of really minor bugs about it [07:01] hunger: I would personally hope, but well, that can be complicated cause there is already ubuntu stuff on that point [07:02] but according to my tests, kpowersave is really interesting [07:02] Tonio_: That is fine for gnome... [07:02] maybe for dapper+1 [07:02] are they using it actually ? [07:02] Tonio_: But breaking kubuntu for that is not nice:-( [07:02] yes [07:02] Tonio_: Yes. ubuntu-desktop is using it. [07:03] anyway, we may discuss that at tomorrow's meeting :) [07:03] not for daper, but could be interesting for dapper+1 maybe === hunger wishes kde and gnome could sit down and agree on the hardware issues. [07:03] and what about ubuntu's gnome [07:04] is powersave used actually ? [07:04] Tonio_: I use it (as far as possible in KDE). [07:04] Tonio_: Worked better in breezy... [07:04] Ididn't test it on dapper, only breezy ;) [07:05] Tonio_: dapper's kernel breaks ksysguard's reporting of cpu frequency, etc. [07:05] argh [07:06] is that due to .15 version of the kernel, or is that specific to ubuntu ? [07:06] Tonio_: I did even try to switch to gnome since things work better there... but then I ended up very depressed trying to configure gnome. [07:06] Tonio_: From what I understand it is an issue with kernels > 2.6.14. [07:06] it'll be fixed with the next version of kde then [07:07] we just have to wait [07:07] Tonio_: ksysguard checks some file in /proc... [07:07] Tonio_: I do not believe in that yet. [07:07] Tonio_: Ksysguard is serioulsy lacking love for AGES now. === hunger thinks kde would be better of changing it to be a GUI for HAL nowadays. [07:09] hunger: that'll not be a problem with kde4 [07:09] but till then........ [07:09] Tonio_: Yes... KDE4 is the promissed land... :-) [07:10] hehe === hunger is happy if it just sucks less. [07:11] Tonio_: ... and if they really are going to switch to dbus in favour of dcop then I'll be happy if it does not crash too often. [07:13] hehe [07:13] the only problem with kde4 is that it is supposed to be so perfect and developped so quickly that I just wonder "I on earth are they gonna do ???" [07:13] s/I/how [07:14] Tonio_: They won't:-) [07:14] hunger: possible, yes [07:14] Tonio_: It will be a huge mess, like all mayor version changes. === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:15] If dapper somehow manages to get stable till april then I'll stick with that till kde 4.1 (or downgrade to breezy). [07:15] hunger: I really hope we're wrong, but I think that inevitable [07:16] Tonio_: I do hope, too... and my curiousity will kill me anyway... I'll probably end up with beta versions of the beast (in spite of what I just said). [07:16] hehe === huahua [n=hua@222.50.182.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:17] hunger: I have to let you, going back home [07:17] are you really having that many issues with dapper? [07:17] Tonio_: I claimed to not switch to dapper before it went stable... and here I am. [07:17] Tonio_: Bye. [07:18] jjesse: At the moment I have serious regressions and nothing I am euphoric about. [07:18] hunger i really have had no problems except of my own causing :) [07:18] jjesse: Things like shutdown causing a hang of the system, suspend broken, etc. make the system hardly useable. [07:19] jjesse: I can not exclude that those problems are of my own making either. [07:19] jjesse: But I'm pretty certain they are not;-) [07:19] hunger: ive run it on old hard ware and on vir=tual machines [07:19] it runs just as stable for me as breezy [07:19] jjesse: This laptop is about 1yr old... not brand new either. [07:20] my laptop is a dell inspiron 5150 [07:20] jjesse: Thinkpad T43p. [07:20] BBL. === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F5C2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:42] moodin in main!!! [07:42] yay! awesome! === jpatrick wonders if he can still maintain moodin now... [07:45] is the new adept installer a part of flight4? or not in yet? [07:46] probably not in [07:46] considering it wasn't even built today morning [07:46] d'oh jumped the gun :) [07:46] jpatrick: yes, just get me to upload === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:46] okay, sir [07:47] jjesse: it is built now though (mod ia64) [07:47] not on my mirror yet tho [07:47] wow why is cdimage so slow :( :( [07:48] jjesse: lots of people? [07:48] are there local mirrors/ [07:48] jigdo++ [07:49] Riddell: can you advocate kautoclick ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1922 ) Tonio_'s not around any more... === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:02] hello kmon [08:02] hello jpatrick [08:02] thanxs for packaging kdm theme manager ;) [08:02] it's in dapper now [08:02] yep [08:03] just read the mail sent to the list [08:03] :-) [08:05] http://kubuntu-es.org/ is down [08:05] I know === jpatrick is admin [08:05] I know ;) [08:07] Is there any wiki page for kubuntu suggestions for feature releases? I've found a page named kubuntu comments, but I don't know if devs read it... [08:10] the wiki pages need their six monthly tidy up at some point [08:10] kmon: please start a page KubuntuDapperPlusOneIdeas [08:10] link to it from Kubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-69-90.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:16] feature freeze is comming up soon? so i can lock in changes to docs? [08:17] jjesse: that's doc freeze (I think) [08:17] doc freeze is in march? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@d80-170-207-118.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:17] yup, march 23'rd or so? [08:17] hey Tonio_ [08:17] hi [08:17] jpatrick: can I revu again ? === jpatrick was planning to work on the docs after FF [08:18] Tonio_: yes [08:18] okay, ;) [08:19] jpatrick: done [08:26] jpatrick: few modifications on the .desktop, not obvious, but nicer I think [08:27]