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axisysi want to take those images and put it together to create a new diagram12:00
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arkanesdia is a diagramming applicaton similiar to visio12:00
axisysbut dia does not allow import images12:00
damgDoesn't Flight 4 support Marvell Yukon 88e8050  (sk98lin [deprecated]  / sky2)?12:00
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farousaxisys: you can convert imagaes using imagemagick12:01
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farousaxisys: if you want simple flow charting openoffice can do that12:01
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axisysoodraw2?12:01
damgi tried to modprobe both drivers - both are modprobeable, but the network adapter still isnt accessible via net config utility / ifconfig12:01
farousaxisys: yap12:01
bjornkriDownloading updates at a mindboggling 2000 B/s... *groan*12:02
bjornkriThis can't be normal12:02
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navaronesb Seveas12:02
benplauthow do i run-as-user from command line?12:02
navaronewb*12:02
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JoeLBFhey anyone here got a minute or two to help a liunx newbie?12:03
robotgeekbenplaut: sudo?12:03
Seveasbenplaut, sudo -i -u user12:03
benplautthanks12:03
navaroneJoeLBF, ask away12:03
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juanfe_hallo12:03
JoeLBFalrighty. i bought another laptop to try linux on, just did a fresh install of 5.10 but i cant get the wireless card to work12:04
deangScorched Earth 3d failed with 'Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)'     Any thoughts?12:04
robotgeekJoeLBF: do you know if it's supposed to work?12:04
LinuxJonesOMG Dapper is so friggin awesome !!12:04
JoeLBFits a broadcom 802.11g and i have no freakin idea how to install the drivers, assuming i can find some12:04
robotgeekJoeLBF, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards12:04
ubuntucant open firefox12:04
robotgeekJoeLBF: okay, that helps12:04
robotgeekubotu: tell JoeLBF about ndiswrapper12:04
rewt_robotgeek, what kind of laptop, what card?12:04
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rewt_Are you dual booting it, robotgeek12:05
robotgeekrewt_: not me, JoeLBF12:05
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rewt_Oh, sorry.12:05
dpaterso<--- in VNC Hell....12:05
rewt_<--- VNC works fine.12:05
dpatersoTrying to bring up my MAC desktop on Ubuntu computer at home.12:05
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rewt_Never did it with MAC though, sorry.12:05
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dpatersothax rewt12:06
dpatersowhich VNC do you use?12:06
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Kr4t05!tcl12:07
ubotuKr4t05: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:07
Protocol1!vnc12:07
ubotuvnc is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html12:07
rewt_vncviewer?12:07
Kr4t05Gosh...12:07
Kr4t05How do I seach with apt?12:07
damgapt-cache search12:07
navaroneKr4t05, try apt-cache search12:07
relakdoes anyone have an idea why i only hear something like SHhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHh HHSHHhhh equivalent to the length of my speech when i test my mic? what are the settings?12:08
Paradosso how do I remove a package in adept/synaptic/apt-get ignoring dependencies?12:08
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navaronerelak, try "alsamixer" in terminal and see if line-in ot mic is muted12:08
SeveasParadosso, that is quite a bad idea..12:08
Seveasthose dependencies are there for a reason..12:09
or_rdrhas anybody tried getting built-in wireless working on omnibook 500 with breezy?12:09
relaknavarone, it can't be muted since i hear the shHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh12:09
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ParadossoSeveas, I have a newer version compiled of taglib and compiling amarok requires I uninstall the prevoius packaged one12:09
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SeveasParadosso, kubuntu.org provides debs of the latest version of amarok, koffice and kde12:10
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Arafangi1nWhat is the best way to transfer a sparse file?12:11
ParadossoSeveas, the amarok 1.4 beta 1 is for dapper, I got breezy12:11
mqueirosHi! Did anyone installed acrobat reader 7.x in ubuntu ?12:11
acidic32how comes my system wont report correct MHZ for my processor12:11
trappistArafangi1n: scp12:11
Arafangi1nI have a 10G file that I wish to send - but it only consumes 174M on the originating computer.12:11
Seveasmqueiros, yes, from the Ubuntu repositorie12:11
acidic32its picking up 1007mhz instead of 1800mhz12:11
navaroneacidic32, try cat /proc/cpuinfo12:11
acidic32why?12:11
Arafangi1ntrappist: Scp insists on transfering the full 10G, rather than the "real" 174M12:11
acidic32model name      : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+12:11
acidic32stepping        : 212:11
acidic32cpu MHz         : 1005.03712:11
navaroneacidic32, are voltages/jumpers etc set for corect speed?12:12
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acidic32yes, in windows xp, its showing 1808mhz12:12
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acidic32and before i upgraded kernel, it showed it12:12
trappistArafangi1n: by what definition is it a 174M file?12:12
nbjaymegood morning everyone from my country! :)12:12
navaronenbjayme...which country is that?12:13
nbjaymephilippines :)12:13
Arafangi1ntrappist: In that it's allowed to grow to 10G. It's an optimization.12:13
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mqueirosseveas, is it Acrobat Reader from Adobe or some other pdf viewer ? Witch repositorie ?12:13
Arafangi1ntrappist: If you must know, it's a disc image for qemu12:13
ablomennbjayme: well good evening from holland ;)12:13
navaronenbjayme sry to hear about the mudslide in leyte12:13
nbjaymeyep. tragedy happens when least expected. well, we've got all to learn from it.12:14
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navaroneacidic32, no idea man12:14
Arafangi1nSo, how do I transfer it?12:14
Storkwhat program can i use to write to a cd-rw ?12:14
acidic32;/12:14
trappistArafangi1n: oh that.  that should be easily compressible, and compression is my recommendation.12:14
Arafangi1ntrappist: But if I then unpack it, it could take 10 gig.12:15
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navaroneStork gnomebaker, serpentine,k3b12:15
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IdleOneStork:  gnomebaker or k3b12:15
Arafangi1ntrappist: In essense, it's already compressed.12:15
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ardchoilleIt seems I started an interesting thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13364112:16
asterisk99Newbie here.... how do I have a pgm like Asterisk start automatically on boot-up?12:16
mqueirosseveas: ok, found it... will try to install it. I tried to install the version from adobe but it didn't started.12:16
trappistArafangi1n: I don't know how qemu works, but vmware give you the option of whether to pre-allocate the space.  if you say no, in this case the guest OS would have 10G available but the image would only be as big as the data on it.  afaik you have a 10G file and there's not a lot you can do about it, but maybe the qemu folks know something about the image that I don't know.12:16
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navaroneasterisk99, what is prog Asterisk?12:16
Storkgnomebaker gives me an error when i try and burn: cdrecord: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target.12:17
Storkgnomebaker gives me an error when i try and burn: "cdrecord: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target."12:17
navaroneStork you havea  cd burner?12:17
Arafangi1ntrappist: Yes, the image is only as big as the data is on it, yet scp insists on transferring the full 10G12:17
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asterisk99navarone: An IP-PBX server12:17
bogoffBlasted firewall.12:17
Storknavarone, i think so, but how can i tell?12:17
Arafangi1ntrappist: Many other files also exhibit this behavour, some database files, etc.12:17
rewt_asterisk99, go to system>preferences>sessions12:17
rewt_Click on the startup tab12:18
trappistArafangi1n: what I meant by my earlier question is, what's reporting it as less than 10G12:18
rewt_Add the program. :)12:18
navaroneStork try dmesg in terminal12:18
i3dmasterI can create a reiser4 filesystem, but how to mount it?12:18
Arafangi1ntrappist: du12:18
trappistArafangi1n: you might try using nc on each end12:18
Arafangi1ntrappist: ls reports it as 10g12:18
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rewt_asterisk99, can you cofirm this worked?12:19
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wastrelthe reason i hate linux is whenever i try to change something i end up breaking it12:19
rewt_wastrel, like what?12:19
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wastrel3 days without functioning mail12:19
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navaroneStork in dmesg output you should look for something regarding hdc or hdd which should indicate your cd-rom or burner12:19
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bogoffSorry about that guys: http://www.ragdollstudios.com/downloading.jpg - see, just hangs like that. The after a while I get "Connection Failed"; this is my issue from before, when trying to install "Konsole"12:20
Storknavarone, "dmesg | grep 'hdd'" returns: [4294672.701000]      ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA12:20
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Arafangi1nwastrel: Please answer the question.12:21
yggdrasil_stork you try sudo mount -a ?12:21
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yggdrasil_or just look in your etc fstab12:21
wastrelwhat question Arafangi1n12:21
Arafangi1nwastrel: 10:19 < rewt_> wastrel, like what?12:21
wastrel<wastrel> 3 days without functioning mail12:21
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navaroneStork on front of your computer what does the front of the cd drive(s) say...?12:22
Storkdvd rom12:22
Storki sswear i bought a cd rw12:22
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navaroneStork not neccessarily a burner though12:22
ubuntu_hi all12:22
Storkah well, i'll use my laptop12:22
Storkthanks guys12:22
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ubuntu_hey gues i have one question12:22
Arafangi1nwastrel: Cause and effect.12:22
navaronebuyer beware...<s>12:22
EvodawgI guess12:23
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IdleOnehow do I a program in startup menu in xfce?12:23
Arafangi1nwastrel: I'll assume that "3 days without functioning email" is the EFFECT - but what was the course (ie, what did you change?)12:23
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Arafangi1n*cause12:23
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zestHi, Mp3 Install Problem on IBM R50 Laptop. It ran before but after update no sound is played aanymore12:23
ubuntu_i want to run AutoCad under Ubuntu12:23
ubuntu_do u have any sugestions12:23
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thenuketry wine12:24
thenukewindows emulator12:24
spikebikezest same here12:24
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ubuntu_wine12:24
ubuntu_ok12:24
ubuntu_thanx12:24
wastrelArafangi1n:  well i installed dovecot imap server, configured fetchmail and procmail and postfix an got everything running neatly, until i rebooted and outgoing mail stopped working12:24
piromanahow do you make ubuntu save sessions (so that you dont have start yr usual apps everytime)??12:24
zestspikebike,  same hardware same station ..12:24
EvodawgI ran wine about 2 yrs ago had it gotten any better>  It was ugly then12:24
ubuntu_but this is especially for auto cad12:24
spikebikeno, amd64 desktop12:25
Arafangi1nwastrel: Looks like you didn't check the rc scripts.12:25
ubuntu_or for all windows applications12:25
navaronepiromana, when you are logging out/shutting down you can check a box that saves sessions and opens progs that are currently open when you next start12:25
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wastrelArafangi1n:  well i've since replaced postfix with masqmail since i really only need local delivery & relaying thru my isp's smtp.  so i'm now getting local delivery but internet mail is all just queuing up12:26
piromananavarone - i dont get that option (dapper)?!12:26
wastrelArafangi1n:  so i need to sit down and spend some more time with masqmail i think12:26
navaronepiromana, sry I'm using breezy12:26
piromanaK12:26
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wastrelArafangi1n:  also need to install spamassassin and that will probably break incoming mail for a while :] 12:26
spikebiketry dspam12:26
Arafangi1nwastrel: I would get your email system working first across reboots.12:27
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zestspikebike, just got any answer ?12:27
tanubisanyone know why I might not be getting sound on a divx copy of a movie under VLC?12:27
wastrelArafangi1n:  well local delivery is working across reboots12:27
Arafangi1nwastrel: Again, check your rc scripts. Perhaps you didn't remove your other email servers (whatever they may be), and they're conflicting on the port.12:27
tanubisit's just the one file, but I've tested it on a windows boot and it works on12:27
spikebikezest mplayer works but firefox+flash doesnt12:28
wastrelArafangi1n:  no, i get the masqmail banner when i connect to 2512:28
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wastrelArafangi1n:  and postfix was removed when i installed masqmail.  dovecot is working and so is fetchmail/procmail... it's just the internet-bound email that's not being relayed.12:29
IdleOnehow do I add program in startup menu in xfce?12:29
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Arafangi1nwastrel: Check yoru logs.12:29
zestspikebike, mplayer on ubuntu ??? howto ???? ibm system as400 user newbe ...12:29
Arafangi1nwastrel: What happens when you send an internet-bound email?12:29
Arafangi1nwastrel: That is a retorical question.12:29
spikebikegoogle for mplayer and ubuntu12:29
Belboz99Hey all, I'm trying to hook up a printer that's connected by USB to my Ubuntu machine to my Windows Machine over the network.  I can see the printer, but when I try to connect to it it says that the driver is invalid.  I attempt to manually install the proper drivers and it says they don't match my hardware.  Any ideas?12:29
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IdleOnezest12:30
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IdleOne!mplayer12:30
ubotuit has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106112:30
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pianoboy3333How do you get the time in the terminal?12:30
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bimberipianoboy3333: date12:31
Belboz99date12:31
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pianoboy3333ah, thd12:31
pianoboy3333thx12:31
Arafangi1nWhat is the best way to package up a sparse file?12:31
Belboz99pianoboy3333, the time command times how long other commands take to complete ;)12:31
Kr4t05How can I configure X for dual monitors?12:31
spikebikeArafangi1n compress it12:31
Arafangi1nTo prepare it for transportation (to a machine that is of the same cpu arch and OS)12:32
trappistArafangi1n: cat sparsefile > newfile might be worth a shot, but I don't have one here to test that with12:32
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Arafangi1nspikebike: The compression program is generally going to read it as a file, and compress it.12:32
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spikebikeright12:32
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Arafangi1nspikebike: To simplify, it'll read "174M of data followed by 9.9G of zeros", guess what happens when you unpack it?12:32
Arafangi1ntrappist: Pipes also read the file itself.12:33
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spikebike10gb12:33
trappistArafangi1n: that's not a pipe, but you're probably right about redirection too12:33
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wastrelyou put the lime in the coconut12:33
trappistArafangi1n: maybe dd if=sparsefile of=newfile12:33
Arafangi1ntrappist: dd would also read the file.12:33
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Arafangi1nHmm, looks like "tar -cvvSf" handles it.12:34
trappistI don't know how you're going to avoid reading the file12:34
trappistok kickass, there you go12:34
Arafangi1nThough it's taking 1.4G to store the 10G sparse file that only takes 400M to store on disk.12:34
Arafangi1nStill, that's better than an actual 10G12:35
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spikebikewhisky is cheaper12:35
mark_how many partitions does Ubuntu need?12:35
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spikebikeheh, oops12:35
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trappistmark_: at least 112:35
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Arafangi1nmark_: Preferably 3.12:35
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bogoffWhat should I install to enable support for video file types such as avi? Is there a codec pack?12:35
mark_ah, okay12:35
Kr4t05Does anyone know how I can configure X for dual monitors?12:35
jjjjjjjhello... does *buntu have the xp fast user switching capability?12:36
mark_Kr4t05, I have a problem12:36
mark_everytime I do configure X for my dual monitors12:36
Kr4t05?12:36
mark_they both display crazy things12:36
mark_and half pictures etc12:36
mark_no idea why12:36
mark_:\12:36
Arafangi1nmark_: I like to at least separate the '/home' from the rest of the system, and it is recommended to have a swap partition.12:36
spikebikevideo card?12:36
Kr4t05mark_: I have yet to get it.12:36
mark_ATI radeon 9000 pro12:36
Arafangi1nmark_: How do you configure X?12:36
mark_you type12:36
mark_sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:37
Arafangi1nmark_: I have no problems with aticonfig --dtop=horizontal12:37
trappistmark_: if you have an ati card and the fglrx drivers run sudo fglrxconfig12:37
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trappistmark_: works every time for dual monitors here12:37
Belboz99Hey, anyone know why Windows won't accept my Linux printer drivers?12:37
Arafangi1nmark_: But I use the proprietary drivers.12:37
wastrelubotu tell bogoff about mp312:37
mark_trappist, I did, it comes up something about no drivers and wont work :\12:37
zestmp3 not working after update  .. any idea for ibm r50 laptop12:37
trappistmark_: grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:38
Arafangi1ntrappist: I am under the impression that one gets fglrx when one uses the proprietary drivers, and mark_ appears to be using the free ones.12:38
jullehow do i run .deb files?12:38
Belboz99julle dpkg12:38
farousjulle you mean install right12:38
wastreljulle:  carefully...  what deb is i?12:38
wastrelit12:38
bjornkriWhat should I add to sources.list to get the multiverse?12:39
jullewastrel: its a program12:39
trappistArafangi1n: it seems he has them installed but isn't *using* the proprietary ones.  else I'd expect fglrxconfig to say something more along the lines of 'no such command'12:39
jullewant to install a ftp program12:39
mark_julle, type in console sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb12:39
LinuxJonesBelboz99: what are you trying to do ?12:39
wastreljulle:  if it's in the apt repositories it's better to use the ubuntu packages instead12:39
jullemark_: ok thx12:39
farousjulle: search for it in the repos first12:39
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mark_and also12:39
Arafangi1njulle: Make sure that it's for ubuntu, and not for debian.12:39
farousbefore installing an untrusted packg12:39
mark_trappist, grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:39
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mark_erm12:39
julleArafangi1n: ok12:39
jullethx12:39
bjornkri deb http://is.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:39
bjornkri deb-src http://is.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:39
mark_        Driver          "fglrx"12:39
mark_even12:39
mark_:D12:39
bjornkri... is what I currently have12:39
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Belboz99thanks LinuxJones, I'm trying to share my Linux HP printer with my father's Windwows Laptop.  Windows keeps on coming back with "invalid drivers" and it won't accept them manually12:40
trappistmark_: I wonder if you could paste the exact error message from fglrxconfig12:40
bjornkribut doesn't seem to work, no multiverse things in synaptic12:40
mark_okay12:40
mark_erm12:40
mark_wait12:40
mark_it's from the firegl thing12:40
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LinuxJonesBelboz99: there are howto's on the wiki for setting up print sharing  in windows. I don't use it so I can't help you directly.12:41
jjjjjjjhey robot... can you add "yes, ubuntu can 'switch users' like xp" to your database?12:41
mark_hold on12:41
Belboz99LinuxJones, which wiki would that be?12:41
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mark_I tried sudo fireglcontrol12:41
mark_before I was always just doing fireglcontrol12:41
mark_maybe it'll work now12:41
mark_:\12:41
mark_k, restarting x12:41
zestmp3 not working after update  .. any idea for ibm r50 laptop12:41
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farousmark fireglcontrolpanel do not need to be run as sudo12:42
LinuxJonesBelboz99: wiki.ubuntulinux.org12:42
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bjornkrinever mind then12:43
mark_hmm12:43
jjjjjjjanyone here from the Vancouver BC area?12:43
mark_didn't work12:43
Arafangi1nIt seems that windows has only recently been able to switch users like linux.12:43
Arafangi1nWhat windows still can't do is switch users in the same _session_, which I feel is more useful imho.12:43
mark_no matter what I do through fireglcontrol it doesn't dual screen12:43
wastrelmark_:  did you follow the ati howto on the wiki?12:43
mark_yeah12:43
mark_didn't work for me12:43
mark_:\12:43
wastrelmark_:  oh you want dual screen?12:43
mark_yes12:43
wastrelmark_:   try fglrxconfig12:43
farousmark running dua screen here12:44
farousno problems at all12:44
mark_meh, I'll try again12:44
LinuxJonesjjjjjjj: no but I'm from Nova Scotia :)12:44
mark_with sudo fglrxconfig12:44
farousmark what card you have and what type of dual screen you need12:44
mark_i want the xcinema one, and I have an ATI radeon 9000 pro12:44
Lazis this the support room for installing unbuntu on macs?12:44
faroushmm did you check first on their website if 9000 work with their drivers12:45
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mark_farous, the ATI website?12:45
mark_if so, nope12:45
mark_and I didn't see anyhting on the ubuntu site12:45
farousand you can set the xcinema <extended desktop> without the prop driver12:45
Belboz99LinuxJones, I'm confused.  It doesn't look like this article is complete:  https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/PrinterSharing?highlight=%28printer%2912:45
jjjjjjjlinuxjones: well if you get on the plane you can make it to the linux user group tonight.12:45
Arafangi1nmark_: Why don't you just use the proprietary drivers _from_ ATI?12:45
mark_Arafangi1n, they never seemed to work :\12:45
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farousmark let me check it for you12:46
Arafangi1nmark_: It becomes as simple as running sudo aticonfig options.12:46
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mark_they made my frame rate drop12:46
jjjjjjjsome guy from google will be there tonight.  :D12:46
Arafangi1nmark_: That is interesting.12:46
Kr4t05!twinview12:46
ubotuKr4t05: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:46
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mark_not to mention12:46
Kr4t05Twinview is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=dual+monitors12:46
mark_the ATI drivers would always hang during installation12:46
farousmark typing fireglinfo in a terminal wht do you get12:46
mr-russGPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic12:46
LinuxJonesjjjjjjj: that's so cool there are no LUG's in this area :(12:46
mr-russapt-get update  is giving me that.12:46
Kr4t05The bot does learn like that, right?12:46
theD3viLwill dapper have graphical installer ?12:46
mark_bash: fireglinfo: command not found12:46
jjjjjjjit's my first LUG... i'm stoked.12:46
mark_farous ^^12:47
Lazwhat is 5.10? Dapper12:47
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theD3viLLaz: 5.10 iz breezy12:47
jjjjjjjwell i did go to a Corel intro a few years back.12:47
farousmark_: which drivers you installed ?12:47
mark_fgrlx12:47
Protocol16.04 is dapper12:47
mark_or however they are12:47
Arafangi1nmark_: So you do technically have them installed?12:47
farousmark where did you install them from is it hte howto12:47
mark_yeah, I done the thing on the ATI howto12:47
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theD3viLLaz: 5.10 iz breezy12:48
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theD3viLwill dapper have graphical installer ?12:48
ubuntuporn12:48
farousif you did then you should have the fireglinfo package12:48
LinuxJonesBelboz99: don't you have to use the Unix Priniting for Windows or something in the add printer dialog in windows ?12:48
faroussorry fglrinof12:48
farousmm12:48
Arafangi1ntheD3viL: Define "graphical"12:48
Lazwhere can i get dapper?12:48
farousmark fglrinfo12:48
Belboz99LinuxJones, I've done it before and I don't recall that12:48
Arafangi1ntheD3viL: Graphical is not neccessarily better.12:48
theD3viLArafangi1n: graphical or text?12:48
LinuxJonesjjjjjjj: they are fun, real geeky stuff :)12:49
mark_farous, what is the apt-get for the FireGL package12:49
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theD3viLArafangi1n: i know ;) ..12:49
Arafangi1ntheD3viL: Installers are fundamentally text.12:49
bimberitell mr-russ about gpgerr12:49
bimberi!tell mr-russ about gpgerr12:49
farousmark_: you need to uninstall what you installed first12:49
wastreli think you can share 'nix printers with 'doze using samba12:49
theD3viLArafangi1n: good then, for ubuntu.12:49
bimberiheh, here i am trying to save channel traffic :P12:49
farousmark and it is xorg-driver-fglrx12:49
mark_how would I uninstall it?12:49
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mr-russubotu: gpgerr12:49
ubotuwell, gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal12:49
wastrelbimberi:  you can /msg the bot :] 12:49
jjjjjjjmy main reason is i want to see if the google guy says anything about the rumour that google is using ubuntu inhouse.12:50
bimberiwastrel: i'm !tell-ing though12:50
wastrelbimberi:  tell works in msg12:50
mr-russthe bot doesn't exactly have an explantion for the problem, just the fix.12:50
bimberiwastrel: yes, but others don't know that someone has responded to a question12:50
theD3viLwhat is different in xorg modular ...and xorg  ?12:50
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Rent-2-Pwni need help with installing wine under ubuntu12:51
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RememberPOLDoes anybody have a Sager NP5720?12:51
ubuntumsg/korn12:51
mr-russthis gpg error, is that because the key expires, or something.  what reason does it have to becoming invalid?12:51
wastrelok i need to be able to detect whether my laptop is online or not via a script - is there a simple method to check?12:51
jjjjjjjcan i add a language to my install and have one user run english and the other user a different language?12:51
RememberPOLOr has anyone successfully configured Ubuntu with an Azalia sound card?12:51
mr-russwastrel: explain "online"12:51
wastrelmr-russ:  have a connection to the internet12:52
amphiwastrel: ping google.com ;)12:52
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farousmark_: it say your card is supported12:52
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Arafangi1ntheD3viL: In ubuntu's case, though, they probably inherited the text based installer from debian.12:53
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mr-russif `ping -c1 google.com` then;12:53
Rent-2-Pwni cant seem to install wine, i added the repository in synaptic but all that shows up is the documentation12:53
mark_thanks farous12:53
mr-russbut that relies on DNS working icmp working, and being connected.12:53
Arafangi1ntheD3viL: And debian has text based installers because of portability reasons.12:53
farousnow did you reboot after installing the drivers12:53
lnx_my fan continually runs, is there anyway to turn it off?12:53
theD3viLArafangi1n: portability means?12:53
farousand there is the 8.22.5 which i have and older drivers which one you installed12:54
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farousmark_: use synaptic to find out search on fglrx12:54
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Rent-2-Pwni cant seem to install wine, i added the repository in synaptic but all that shows up is the documentation12:54
jjjjjjjfound this on the net.... what would i type if i wanted to see for gnome?12:54
jjjjjjjsudo apt-cache search language-pack-kde12:54
xpl0it_How do I remove a directory that has subdirectories in it?12:55
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lnx_my fan continually runs, is there a way to turn it off?12:55
mark_okay farous12:55
Rent-2-Pwnlnx_: unplug it or wire a switch12:55
theD3viLwhat is different in xorg modular ...and xorg  ?12:55
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xpl0it_How do you remove a directory with subdirectories in it?12:56
Rent-2-Pwni cant seem to install wine, i added the repository in synaptic but all that shows up is the documentation12:56
llODxCOllright click delete12:56
wastrelxpl0it:  man rm12:56
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llODxCOllquiet12:56
jjjjjjjas i figured... sudo apt-cache search language-pack-gnome12:56
bimberixpl0it: rm -r (use with care)12:56
lnx_Rent-2-Pwn, it's a laptop, is there anyway to change a configuration setting, it didn't do this with hoary12:56
farousxpl0it_: rm -rf <dir name> use wisely12:56
llODxCOllyou can't run wine as an actual program12:56
xpl0it_.12:56
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xpl0it_ty12:56
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Se7hhow can i stop my external hard drive from going to 'sleep' mode ?12:57
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Rent-2-Pwnthe instructions for installing it said to add the repository and install the package "wine" but all i see is "wine-doc"12:57
llODxCOllse7h: hit it with a hammer12:57
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Se7hahah12:57
xpl0it_Anyone play Anarchy Online on ubuntu?12:57
nbjaymeanybody here able to capture a stream from an online radio?  I wud like to record those from www.fatimaradio.org. i can listen using totem. i was hoping to listen and at the same time record the stream. :)12:57
llODxCOllsudo apt-get install wine12:57
Se7hllODxCOll i thought of that already12:57
lnx_how can i stop my fan from continually running?12:57
allanhey, is the fonts folder in your home folder by default, or do you have to create it?12:57
dabaRRent-2-Pwn: you have universe enabled?12:58
mark_lnx_, unplug it :D12:58
Se7hbut i dont think it will be a good ideaa for my data12:58
Rent-2-Pwndabar: i dont know?12:58
Se7hlol12:58
LinuxJonesBelboz99: sorry I messed your comment earlier >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=printing&titlesearch=Titles12:58
mark_it's safe to do even when your computer is turned on12:58
mark_i do it all the time12:58
lnx_mark_: it's a laptop12:58
mark_ah12:58
mark_that's a bit more difficult then12:58
Arafangi1ntheD3viL: Until recently, being able to run on anything from the m68k12:58
Arafangi1n theD3viL Recently...  afaik, the m68k has been... diplomatically retired.12:58
lnx_mark_: is there a configuration setting i can change?12:58
Rent-2-Pwnif its a laptop it could easily overheat if you unplug its fan12:58
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mark_I wouldn't know, sorry :(12:58
dabaRRent-2-Pwn: are you familiar with apt-get + sources.list, or do you use synaptic?12:58
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Rent-2-Pwni use synaptic but i can learn12:59
allanhey, is the fonts folder in your home folder by default, or do you have to create it?12:59
Rent-2-Pwnive tried running  apt-get install wine and get an error12:59
Se7hany help would be great12:59
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lampshadeOut of curiosity, how come firefox 1.5  isn't in the repositories?  Did something happen license wise or something?12:59
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dabaRRent-2-Pwn: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html and follow the first step in particular.12:59
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dabaRlampshade: it was released after breezy.12:59
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dabaRlampshade: only apps released before a ubuntu release make it into the repo for that release01:00
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lampshadeahh01:00
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wastrel!firefox1.501:00
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:00
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sethkhey, all, my package manager is unhappy.  it says   "stat (2 No such file or directory) for a bunch of things, such as "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists"01:01
lnx_anyone know the configuration file to turn the fan off?01:01
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sethkthere are six of those01:01
lampshadeis there a way to turn down the sensitivity of my touchpad?  It keeps interupting my typing since it thinks I'm touching it.01:01
Se7hlampshade or just turn into dapper ;)01:01
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dabaRsethk: you have been here long enough to know to post that to pastebin... post the error, and sources.list01:01
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christianhow to Disable ip6 in Ubuntu01:01
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dabaRchristian: on what level?01:02
sethkdabaR, never mind, I fixed it01:02
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dabaRwell good work01:02
sethkdabaR, the post wouldn't have helped you.  all the lines were of exactly the same format.01:02
christianfor web browinsing01:02
christianits slow for me01:02
mark_hmm, I can't see the fglrx info packages on synaptic01:02
mark_meh. I'm going to try reconfigure the X.org conf01:03
mark_brb01:03
dabaRchristian: firefox? url: about:config change it there01:03
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ArthurBHi, I can't have the network working and I don't really know where the problem lies01:03
theshibbolethsome program is using port 1171, and I don't know what it is.01:03
jjjjjjji added spanish like this....  is that all there is to it?     sudo apt-get install language-pack-gnome-es01:03
christianalready did....bout 10% faster01:03
bimberi!ipv6disable01:03
ubotuI guess ipv6disable is http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2005-May/013585.html01:03
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ArthurBdmesg tells me eth0 is tied to the e100 driver which is loaded, but launching dhclient yields a bunch of "network is down" errors01:03
ArthurB( yes the cable is plugged -in )01:04
dabaRArthurB: be very specific, and someone may know what you should do.01:04
biovoreArthurB: try dhcpcd -i eth001:04
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christian/etc/modprobe.d/aliases01:05
ArthurBjust got dhclient01:05
dabaRjjjjjjj: I am sure they will know much more about this in the spanish channel, and their web site01:05
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christianwhere is this file to edit?01:05
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mark_what's the command for fglrx01:05
mark_config01:05
theshibbolethWhat's a good program for blocking ports?01:05
mark_fglrxconfig01:05
mark_:\01:05
ArthurBbut it sends some dhcpdiscover and then says network is down01:05
wastrelfglrxconfig01:05
mark_what be that command01:05
sethkWhat's the apt-get or dpkg syntax to look for a file name?  Not a package name, a file name?01:05
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mark_thanks wastrel01:05
Rent-2-Pwndabar: i did what that site said and i still dont see it01:05
lnx_any ideas for stopping the fan from running all the time?01:05
tony__Good evening guys...01:05
slvmchnwhat's the ubuntu equivalent of "ipconfig /all"01:05
slvmchnso i can see what port i'm on?01:06
shikamaru85can anyone tell me how to install my asus WL-167G usb dongle on my just installed ubuntu system?01:06
sethkArthurB, I would run a package sniffer and see what's going on on the network.  it's about the only way to figure out the difficult problems.01:06
ArthurBifconfig -a01:06
amphislvmchn: ifconfig -a perhaps01:06
slvmchnmy roommate needs to set up his firewall so i can play enemy territory01:06
wastrelifconfig maybe01:06
ArthurBthe network is fine, this machine iss on the same network01:06
sethkslvmchn, ifconfig01:06
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ArthurBit's a new machine I'm trying to set up01:06
bimberichristian: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases  - it did say that, or do you not have that?01:06
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dabaRRent-2-Pwn: open a terminal. run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:06
sethkslvmchn, ifconfig -a will give more info, but you probably don't need the -a; you certainly don't need it just to get your ip address01:06
dimastahello!01:06
ArthurBso no, the nework is "not" down01:06
soundraylnx_, laptop?01:06
mark_here, see when configuring two monitors in fglrxconfig. is it better to use the "big desktop" option or the "dual head" option01:06
christianwhere to find it ?01:06
lnx_soundray: yes01:06
slvmchnis that all i need to get it set up for me?01:06
slvmchni just give him my ip?01:06
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slvmchni can't connect to any games online atm, that's all i need to fix01:07
soundraylnx_, do you have any entries in /proc/acpi/fan/ ?01:07
sethkArthurB, you need to find out whether you are getting dhcp answers that are somehow "wrong", or not getting answers at all.  that's why I suggest the package trace.01:07
tony__How do I get my Video resolution off of 640x480?01:07
ArthurBhum, receive_packet also fails01:07
bimberichristian: open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases"01:07
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dabaRtony__: you fixres.01:07
lnx_soundray: no, the directory is empty01:07
jjjjjjjthx dabaR... i'll pass that along.01:07
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dabaRubotu: tell tony__ about fixres01:07
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shikamaru85can anyone tell me what i need to intall / do for my asus WL_167G usb wireless network adapter to be recognized?01:08
christiannice...thanx01:08
garnett hi i have installer ubuntu on an extern usb hard drive, but my laptop cant boot on usb devices and dont have internal hard disk, someone knows a bootable cd that permit to boot on the usb device?01:08
bimberichristian: yw :)01:08
soundraylnx_, then your fans are controlled by the BIOS. If you're lucky, there's a linux program to control it, anyway... What make laptop?01:08
ArthurBI'm not receiving any answers at all01:08
robotgeekshikamaru85: do you know what chipset u have, lsusb -vvv01:08
Rent-2-Pwndabar: its pasted01:08
i3dmastergot problem mounting/smbclient to win2k3 smbfs. anyone can help01:08
mark_hmm, should I enable AGP locked option in fglrxconfig?01:09
mark_or should I set it as 'no@01:09
mark_"no"01:09
lnx_soundray: it's old but good, gateway solo 530001:09
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nine5102anyone care to help me install ubuntu on vmware workstation?01:09
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lnx_soundray: do you know of any programs that can control the bios?01:09
jaypee_how do i get rid of menu item that has root permissions on it01:09
christianedited file for ip601:09
mark_hmm, should I enable AGP locked option in fglrxconfig?01:09
soundraylnx_, hold on...01:09
christiangonna reboot with results...01:09
shikamaru85robotgeek: the code is 0b05:170601:09
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mark_hmm, should I enable AGP locked option in fglrxconfig?01:10
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wastrell8r01:10
mark_ubotu, AGP locked01:10
ubotumark_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:10
robotgeekshikamaru85: moment01:10
shikamaru85robotgeek: tks so much01:10
dabaRRent-2-Pwn: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and make the file look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8922. then save it and close. then run "sudo aptitude update" did you reload your package list after changing the repository list? run sudo apt-get update first of all01:11
mark_k, restartin x'01:11
mark_:D01:11
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unpersonI'm having an odd problem with my flash card.  I was able to read and write to it fine over the weekend, then when I plugged it in this morning it said I didn't have permission to write to the flash card.  AFAIK I have not changed any relivant configuration.01:12
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unpersonI seem to have write permission to the mount point, but when I looked at /etc/mtab and it said the card was mounted read-only.01:13
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Rent-2-Pwndabar: replace that whole sources.list with the paste thing you gave?01:13
unpersonSo, I did sudo umount and sudo mount -w (to mount read-write), and I got this message, "mount: block device /dev/sdc1 is write-protected but explicit `-w' flag given".  Why is this happening/what do I do now?01:13
ryanakcahow do you stop KDE to go to plain shell, without X running? like plain terminal01:14
robotgeekshikamaru85: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page01:14
soundraylnx_, sorry, I don't think there's a way to control the fan on your laptop. There is a program for certain Toshiba laptops, but none for Gateway apparently.01:14
sethkryanakca, you mean permanently, or just for a particular run?01:14
ryanakcajust for a particular run01:14
lnx_soundray: is there a way to change the temperature it gets activated on or anything of that nature?01:15
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dabaRyes.01:15
dabaRRent-2-Pwn:01:15
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robotgeekshikamaru85: the rt2570 driver should work too, i guess01:15
ryanakcasethk: its for while I run "apt-get dist-upgrade"01:15
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moonunit_jason, are you there?01:15
ryanakcasethk: so, just for a particular run01:15
Belboz99Hey, Windows won't accept my Linux printer drivers, any ideas?01:15
sethkryanakca, you can probably just do init 101:15
soundraylnx_, possibly in the bios setup. Do you still have Windows on that machine?01:16
ryanakcainit 1???01:16
sethkryanakca, that puts you in single user mode also, but that's a good thing for a dist upgrade01:16
lnx_soundray: no, I only have ubunu01:16
lnx_ubuntu*01:16
ArthurBok, that's fun... I booted a gentoo livecd and the network is working... well at least it means the network card isn't ooo01:16
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ryanakcasethk: how do you get to init 1?01:16
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biovoreoO01:17
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mlinsOk..I tried the forums with no luck.  I get this error message when trying to load ANY program via the console(just to see what's going on..can't load from the menu either) Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server01:17
mlinsXlib: Maximum number of clients reached01:17
mlins: cannot connect to X server :0.001:17
mlins  I only get this every once in a while, I have to restart X to fix it.  What's going on?01:17
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robotgeekmlins, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:17
christianis there a way to update firefox to 1.5 through apt-get?01:17
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mlinssorry for the paste01:17
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dabaRmlins: what do you do to get it?01:17
soundraylnx_, could it be that the fan is always on by design?01:18
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moonunitcan someone hook me up with the ubotu message about restricted file formats, i need the win32 codecs01:18
dabaRoh01:18
spikebikeactually I'd like to update to firefox-1.5 32 bit (on an amd64)01:18
mlinsnothing...it happens after I have had my desktop running for about 2 days01:18
lnx_soundray: no because when i had hoary on and when it used to have windows it, the fan only came on when it was needed01:18
dabaRmlins: do yuo run gui programs with sudo?01:18
soundray!tell moonunit about restricted01:18
bimberiubotu tell moonunit about restricted01:18
mlinsit seems to happen when I have a lot of windows open01:18
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moonunitthank you.01:18
Rent-2-Pwndabar: when running apt-get update i get this error "http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/drivers/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" should i just remove that repository?01:18
mlinsbut doesn't help when I close them01:18
christianis there a way to update?01:18
christianfirefox?01:19
dabaRyes Rent-2-Pwn01:19
mlinsI have not tried to run GUI programs with sudo01:19
rewt_whats the command to kill gdesklets01:19
bimberichristian: not through apt, but there is ...01:19
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bimberi!ff1.501:19
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:19
soundraylnx_, then there is hope yet...01:19
shikamaru85robotgeek: i've been there and my dongle isn't on the supported cards list http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Hardware01:19
christianhow?01:19
lnx_soundray: i hope so01:19
robotgeekshikamaru85: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Asus&zoek=brandname01:19
bimberichristian: the link posted by ubotu above01:19
Rent-2-Pwndabar: ok should i see wine now or am i not done?01:20
soundraylnx_, try 'dmesg | grep -i acpi' and see if it tries to load ACPI and fails.01:20
Belboz99Hey, should I enable WINS Support in smb.conf?  I'm trying to connect a Linux printer to a Windows machine01:20
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fuubu>>>>>>>buy pixel puer 1cent<<<<<<01:20
fuubuhttp://www.100dollarhomepage.er1.be01:21
fuubu>>>Own a piece of internet history<<<01:21
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dabaRRent-2-Pwn: did you sudo aptitude update?01:21
dabaRwoo01:21
Rent-2-Pwndabar: yes01:21
soundraylnx_, you can put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you'd like me to have a look at it.01:21
dabaR >>>>>>>buy pixel puer 1cent<<<<<<01:21
dabaRI want that01:21
mark_got my dual heads working, kinda. but I want 'big desktop' so I can drag and drop things into the other monitor etc. but one screen stays grey and wont let me drag anything into it :\01:21
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mark_can someone help me01:21
mark_:o01:21
lnx_soundray: what should i put the output of?01:21
dabaR>>>>>>>buy pixel puer 1cent<<<<<<01:21
dabaRsorry01:21
shikamaru85robotgeek: seems to say otherwise :P01:21
nitinhey guys im trying to install a new DSDT but the instructions are really vague can anyone help me through it01:21
soundraylnx_, ^^ try 'dmesg | grep -i acpi' and see if it tries to load ACPI and fails.01:22
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bimberidabaR: you have a spamming career beckoning :P01:22
robotgeekshikamaru85: asus card, right?01:22
IdleOne!xfce01:22
ubotuI guess xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/01:22
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rewt_whats the command to kill gdesklets01:22
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shikamaru85robotgeek: yup, a WL-167G usb01:22
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pianoboy3333http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=75508901:22
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IdleOne!fluxbox01:23
pianoboy3333Help me out here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=75508901:23
ubotufluxbox is probably a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net01:23
lekvarIs anyone here familliar with the pcmcia ethernet card recognition problem?  It's definitely crimping my install attempt to not be able to activate the network...01:23
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robotgeekshikamaru85: it says on that page, with the exact device parameters?01:24
TiG4For some reason my audio has sounded strange. It peaks really early but when my speakers are turned down. Like the OS Volume is WAY TOO LOUD but the speakers are just fine.01:24
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dabaRRent-2-Pwn: so, is it installed?01:24
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warty_hola01:24
annahello01:24
TiG4For some reason my audio has sounded strange. It peaks really early but when my speakers are turned down. Like the OS Volume is WAY TOO LOUD but the speakers are just fine. Any ideas anyone?01:24
CHINATAHOMHOLA01:24
lnx_soundray: here's a URL to the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d900901:24
argentina7vtyvt6vt01:24
dabaRHOLA BACK01:24
argentinahola01:24
Rent-2-Pwndabar: under synaptic i still only see "wine-doc"01:24
annahola soy de mexico01:25
Rent-2-Pwnso i dont know01:25
shikamaru85robotgeek: yup01:25
dabaRall 3?01:25
warty_hola alguin de veracruz01:25
argentinahola cinatom01:25
warty__hi01:25
robotgeekshikamaru85: then it should work :)01:25
annaalguien quiere hablar conmigo01:25
dabaRwarty live?01:25
bogoffAfter installing this 'w32codec' pack/thing, I still can't play WMV files in 'Totem' or 'Helix'? When I do run Totem and luanch the file, it skips right from the beginning of the vidoe to the last minute and plays some sounds - Helix says it can't play the file format.01:25
CHINATAHOMJAJAJJA ARGENTINA01:25
warty_no nadie01:25
CHINATAHOMKE ONDA01:25
argentinasoy lesvia na y tu01:25
CHINATAHOMJAJAJAJ01:25
argentinajajajajjajaja01:25
warty__sammy01:25
Pygi!ops01:25
ubotuHelp! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth01:25
annajajaja que perversa eres01:25
shikamaru85robotgeek: tks i'll try it out....tks again!01:25
annasomos01:25
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argentinajajaj01:26
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CHINATAHOMANNA YA CONOSES A LA ARGENTINA01:26
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Pygithanks nalioth01:26
argentina no me cres01:26
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annade heccho argentina y chinatahom tambien son01:26
annade hecho somos un trio01:26
bogoffAnyone assist me at all?01:26
jmpbanna01:26
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Pyginalioth, anna as well...CHINATAHOM as well...01:26
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TiG4!audio01:26
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TiG401:26
lnx_soundray: that help at all?01:26
warty__hi everybody I`m new at this.01:26
TiG4!sound01:27
ubotu[sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary01:27
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soundraylnx_, did you go from hoary to breezy via update or reinstall?01:27
jmpbhola01:27
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lnx_soundray: reinstall01:27
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CHINATAHOMHOLA01:27
Pyginalioth: again :-/01:27
jmpbque hases aparte de estar aqui01:27
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elkbuntufaaaaaaaar out01:28
naliothlovely01:28
Pygihuh, congrats nalioth01:28
lucaasbeagle is nice, but it feels like it only indexes my home, is it so?01:28
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lampshadeCan anyone recommend a program for displaying images and sorting, etc?  Looking for a program like Picasa01:28
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dabaRpah01:29
lucaaslampshade, maybe f-spot?01:29
soundraylnx_, I would have suggested going back to a hoary kernel, but I don't know if that will wreak havoc.01:29
nitincrap, i think i accidently deleted initramfs.conf in /etc/mkinitramfs/ - what package do i need to reinstall01:29
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lnx_soundray: i would imagine that it would01:29
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lnx_soundray: i can't believe there's not a setting that can be changed01:30
soundraylampshade, there was a review in LWN: lwn.net/Articles/131394/01:30
TiG4How would I go about UPGRADING from Breezy to Dapper without a clean install?01:30
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lucaasaha, found what i was looking for already :>01:30
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christianhow can i optomize ubuntu for my 333mhx k6 machine?01:31
soundraylnx_, there may well be.01:31
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christiani alrady disabled start-up servies01:31
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TiG4How would I go about UPGRADING from Breezy to Dapper without a clean install?How would I go about UPGRADING from Breezy to Dapper without a clean install?01:31
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soundraylnx_, I suspect if fan control broke when you went from hoary to breezy, the kernel is at fault.01:31
TiG4Sorry for double post01:31
robotgeekTiG4: why do you want to do that? are you sure you want to do that?01:31
TiG4Yes01:32
bimberirobotgeek: lol lol01:32
KyralTiG4: sudo sed s/breezy/dapper /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list01:32
shikamaru85quick question...when i try su and enter the supposed pass...it never accepts..any ideas?01:32
KyralI think01:32
Kyralubotu tell shikamaru85 about root01:32
hd420whenever I enable apache modules and restart it, it dies with SIGTERM01:32
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KyralAny sed gurus wanna check my command01:32
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robotgeekKyral: you need a correct sudo, the sed needs quotes i think01:33
lnx_is there a way to add a file to /proc/acpi/fan that would control the fan?01:33
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aaron_hey all!01:33
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christianwhat can i do to tweak ubuntu for this 333mhx machine?01:33
soundraylnx_, no, not if all indications are that ACPI is completely broken, like in your case.01:33
aaron_mind a quick "pop in" question?01:33
tatterswhats a good file sharing program for ubuntu?01:33
mark_got my two monitors working01:33
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christianaaron ask plz01:34
nitincrap, i think i accidently deleted initramfs.conf in /etc/mkinitramfs/ - what package do i need to reinstall01:34
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mark_problem is now though, I want to have it so that they have a resoloutoin similar to what 2034/758 was with only one monitor01:34
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soundraylnx_, what's your uptime at present?01:34
mark_can someone help me01:34
aaron_if a Live CD doesn't pick up my network card is it sage to assume the full install won01:34
aaron_t either?01:34
pianoboy3333Who here uses dapper and it is working fine for them (as in OpenOffice, printing and the internet works)?01:34
lnx_soundray: how do i check?01:34
christianyea01:34
soundraylnx_, 'uptime'01:34
mark_the main reason I want to do this is so the refresh rate isn't so low that it stings my eyes01:34
Kyralpianoboy3333: me01:34
christianyea aaron01:34
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Kyralthen again my system, by all accounts, should be horribly broken01:35
robotgeekpianoboy3333: me too01:35
pianoboy3333Anyone else?01:35
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Kyralwhat with all the mix of breezy, Sid, Dapper, and custom compiled packs01:35
aaron_dang!01:35
christianhow do i tweak ubuntu for ym older machine01:35
aaron_looks like I need to shaop for anew wireless adapter then01:35
Kyral!lowmem01:35
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral01:35
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Kyral...01:35
Kyralbah01:36
christiancuz i dunt wanna go back to win9801:36
adam_Hi, im new to ubuntu or any linux. does anyone have any tips01:36
Kyralchristian: use a low mem WM (Like Fluxbox01:36
Kyraladam_: on?01:36
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adam_generl stuff01:36
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Kyral....01:36
bimberiTiG4, Kyral: sed s/breezy/dapper/ /etc/apt/sources.list | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list01:36
adam_general01:36
Kyralwelcome mister vague...01:36
lnx_soundray:  18:41:34 up 10:41,  2 users,  load average: 0.17, 0.18, 0.2901:36
soundrayadam_, cli is a good place to start. Listen to ubotu:01:36
ompaul!dapper01:36
ubotuwell, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.01:36
SimonWhi all - does Ubuntu have a GUI equivalent of 'top' anywhere?01:36
Kyral!terminal01:36
TiG4bimberi, yeah got it thanks :)01:36
soundray!tell adam_ about cli01:37
adam_what is cli01:37
bimberiTiG4: np :)01:37
KyralCommand Line Interfacew01:37
TiG4bimberi, is dapper really that unstable?01:37
KyralAka, the Terminal01:37
adam_oj01:37
TiG4Flight 4?01:37
adam_ok01:37
ompaulbimberi, can u point out the downside when your talking about dapper01:37
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Kyralthe kernel breaking on me01:37
biovoreSimonW: try apt-get install gtop01:37
Kyrallol01:37
SimonWta biovore01:37
sovinquestion: I've been researching the effects of the two delete commands, rm and shred. In both it says in the --help, that the files are still recoverable or have a chance for recovery.  Does that mean that diskspace is still being consumed?01:38
TiG4Kyral, is Dapper really that unstable?01:38
Kyralalmost every reboot right now I have to drop to recovery and do apt-get install --reinstall linux-image01:38
ompaulTiG4, it could die in 10 seconds or be cool through to release but my guess is somewhere inbetween which can be problem01:38
KyralTiG4: the problem also exists in Sid01:38
tattersim lokking for something like limewire / bearshare / winmx type file sharing client for breezy01:38
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TiG4Kyral, Sid?01:38
biovoresovin: No.. a remove operation on linux just marks the file blocks as free01:38
KyralTiG4: I have heard it is fixed for the 386 and 686 kernels01:38
tattersbut not bittorrent01:38
KyralTiG4: Debian Sid01:38
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adam_Does anyone know if 3ds max works on ubuntu01:38
soundraylnx_, it may be worth rebooting and checking dmesg | grep -i acpi again to see the messages from the early boot phase.01:38
sovinbiovore: so it is 'waiting' to be overwritten?01:38
TiG4Kyral, Ah, does Dapper F4 have new Gnome?01:38
biovoreyup01:39
AUCIHello ppl, I just installed ubunto for the first time and im in love01:39
sovinbiovore: and not actually.. say.. 'cleaned?'01:39
KyralTiG4: I dunno about the LiveCD01:39
biovorenope not cleaned01:39
lnx_soundray: that will have to wait, i can't break from the work i'm doing01:39
soundraylnx_, you may also get them immediately with 'grep -i acpi /var/log/syslog'. Feel free to post to pastebin again.01:39
djmaster13hi01:39
biovoreso you can recover loast inodes if needed01:39
AUCIBut how do i install Nvidia drivers?01:39
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pianoboy3333I need printer help here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=75508901:39
Kyralbut my GNOME Version (This thing is Dist-Upgraded from Breezy the day the Dapper repos opened) is like 2.13.9901:39
lnx_soundray: i guess thx anyway01:39
Rent-2-Pwndabar: you there01:39
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sovinbiovore: hm, so shred is useful then?01:39
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djmaster13re termitor01:39
Nunquam_FidelisOk, I have a Q. Dapper Drake F4 installs from a LiveCD - will I have an install option from both the Install CD and Live CD, or just one?01:40
soundraylnx_, you may also get them immediately with 'grep -i acpi /var/log/syslog'. Feel free to post to pastebin again.01:40
biovoreI guess I never used it01:40
sovinbiovore: ah, that explains how it works.. would you be aware if shred has an option to delete directories?01:40
djmaster13termitor, tu as vue, c'est imprsionant !01:40
TiG4Kyral, not LiveCD but InstallCD01:40
biovorecheck the man page..01:40
KyralNunquam_Fidelis: There will be an installer icon on the desktop01:40
sovinkk, thanks anyways -- i did, didn't notice if there was one or not though.01:40
KyralNunquam_Fidelis: Thanks for reminding me to write the docs...01:40
BainIs there any way to get GNOMEs file manager to work like Krusader, with the two panel style?01:40
biovoreshred isn't a standard unix tool01:40
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Nunquam_FidelisKyral: Of the LiveCD, Kyral?01:40
pianoboy3333Nunquam_Fidelis: yes01:41
bmwboy4563ds max does NOT work on ubuntu.01:41
KyralNunquam_Fidelis: the new install process01:41
tattersdoes breezy have suppoted p2p client apart from bittorrent?01:41
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AUCIwhats the difference of AI VS BSD drivers, wich one s should i download?01:41
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KyralTime to break out a LiveCD and Gnome-Screenshot01:41
soundraytatters, I don't know -- but do you know about apt-cache search ?01:41
biovoretatters: There is azeureous01:42
ssstormyis there a way to get synaptic to stop adding "/dists/" into the middle of the urls it looks up for repos?  I have a repo without "dists" anywhere in the address, but I can't use it cause of that stupid insert!01:42
Kyralssstormy: manually edit the list?01:42
soundrayssstormy, it's the repo that's stupid then.01:42
Kyralactually soundray is right lol01:42
biovoressstormy: /etc/apt/sources.list01:42
ssstormyKyral, I do.  It adds the "dists" when it contacts it01:42
KyralStandard Debian Mirror has the dists dir01:42
tattersk ill check them out p2p/ nor filesharting dont return much in apt-cache01:43
ssstormythere's no word "dists" anywhere in the file either01:43
ArthurBI have a weird problem with my network... it worked during the installation, it works with some various linux livecd but it doesn't work after I install breezy01:43
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ssstormyKyral, well actually it does have another section that works normally, and this is technically "pool"01:43
Kyralyah01:43
ArthurBnamely, running dhclient fails because each request is followd by a "network is down" error01:43
ssstormyhttp://search.belnet.be/packages/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/01:43
KyralI've been studying01:43
AUCIIm a newb and I need help01:43
Kyralchem01:43
soundraytatters, 'apt-cache search peer sharing'01:43
Kyralsorry mind hurts lole01:43
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Kyralokay back to work01:44
tattersah peer sharing01:44
lnx_soundray: thanks anyway01:44
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soundraylnx_, aren't you going to grep your syslog?01:44
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soundraylnx_, like I suggested?01:44
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tattersazeureous dont a show up my package list :(01:44
AUCIis it safe to use FLUXBOX ON ubuntu?01:44
Rent-2-Pwnazureas01:45
lnx_i can't right now, i've got to finish other work01:45
Rent-2-Pwnsomething like that01:45
bimberi!azureus01:45
lnx_soundray: thank you though, i appreciate it01:45
ubotuazureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo01:45
soundraylnx_, you don't need to reboot for that.01:45
lnx_oh-- how do i do it?01:45
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soundrayQuoting myself: lnx_, you may also get them immediately with 'grep -i acpi /var/log/syslog'. Feel free to post to pastebin again.01:45
sethklnx_, how do you reboot?  :)01:46
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tattershmm peer sharing gives rough;y same results as p2p in sudo-cache search peer sharing01:46
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tatterssudo apt-cache search peer sharing01:46
soundraytatters, don't overuse sudo.01:47
yheve1has anyone here had any experience with samsung-scx4216f sane external backend?01:47
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Cainushey...anyone know how to change the smb workgroup?01:47
corona1i think it's in the network config01:48
soundrayCainus, I don't know, but I'd look in /etc/samba/smb.conf first.01:48
Cainusyeah...that's prob fastest...thanks01:48
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corona1anyone here use obsidian+ ?01:48
lnx_soundray: here's the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/901201:49
tatters/etc/samba/smb.conf workgroup name is default home01:49
pianoboy3333I need printer help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=75508901:49
tatterschange it to what u want01:49
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soundraylnx_, is that with a 2.6.12 kernel?01:49
soundraylnx_, 'uname -a' to check.01:49
lnx_soundray: Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux01:50
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adam_how do you start the command to open programs on the desktop with terminal01:50
bmwboy456piano: have you setup your network?01:50
yheve1Are there any sane gurus in freenode irc anyway?01:50
[olli] hmm, why is that usb 2.0 so buggy in breezy?01:50
biovoremaybe01:50
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Arafangi1nyheve1: There are a large number of savants.01:51
biovorebut thats up for debate01:51
yheve1#sane is always empty...01:51
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Arafangi1nyheve1: But no _sane_ gurus.01:51
yheve1:)01:51
biovorelol01:51
soundraynalioth, lnx_ has trouble with ACPI and breezy, where hoary worked fine. Can he go back to a hoary kernel without wrecking his system?01:51
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biovoresoundray: not easy01:51
yheve1but any of you 'maybe' guys know something about sane?01:51
soundraylnx_, sorry, I was guessing your gender.01:51
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Kr4t05Does anyone have recommendations for setting up a webserver in Ubuntu?01:52
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Kr4t05I know samba is good, but is there anything else?01:52
tattersits strange coming from XP where I could run as root to make system wide changes,and then drop back to my  user account for everday stuff01:52
soundraybiovore, I thought so... hotplug and everything will suffer, right?01:52
biovoreKr4t05: apt-get install libapache201:52
bmwboy456kr4: use apache01:52
lnx_soundray: np you got it right :)01:52
biovoresoundray: maybe01:52
Kr4t05biovore, ok01:52
naliothsoundray: only if they put hoary around it01:52
yheve1I'm trying to manage an external backend which is really made the wrong way, so it seems01:52
soundraylnx_, 98% chance here I reckon :)01:53
biovoresoundray: find the config file for a hoary kernel and try compiling a custom kernel01:53
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tatterssudo is short for sudonym or super user do?01:53
naliothlnx_: i suggest you visit malone and file a bug about your problem (or search for it there)01:53
naliothtatters: superuser do01:53
biovoresoundray: selinux extentions sometimes much stuff up01:53
soundraylnx_, is compiling a custom kernel an option for you?01:53
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Kr4t05biovore: E: Couldn't find package libapache201:54
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soundraybiovore, even acpi?01:54
Arafangi1ntrappist: Hello?  Just letting you know that the -S option on tar doesn't work very well.01:54
tattersthnx01:54
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Arafangi1ntrappist: Just going to transfer the full thing onto removable media01:54
yheve1well, since I assume the problem is that the backend is made for a 2.4 kernel, I would like to try to install a 2.4 kernel01:54
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yheve1Can I do it without compiling it myself?01:54
sethkArafangi1n, you mean it doesn't really gain any space?01:54
twitchhow can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?01:54
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Cainusdo I need to restart samba after a change to smb.conf? if so, how?  thanks... I know I'ma  bit off-topic now ;)01:54
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biovoreKr4t05: apache2 try that01:55
lnx_soundray: i have no idea how to do that01:55
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bimberiCainus: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart01:55
Rent-2-Pwnwhen trying to install wine, i added the repository but "wine" doesnt show up, only "wine-doc"01:55
tattersno need to restart samba after changes to .conf01:55
biovore(note try apt-cache search <package>01:55
twitchhow can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?01:55
lnx_soundray: and would be nervous about losing everything01:55
Arafangi1nsethk: Well, qemu is unable to read it, so osmething changes. Also, the used diskspace and 'ls' reported disc space is different.01:55
bmwboy456BUTTSECKS01:55
bmwboy456BUTTSECKS01:55
bmwboy456BUTTSECKS01:55
robotgeek!ops01:55
ubotuHelp! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth01:55
navarone!ops01:55
hou5tonI've tried this a couple of times with same results ... when putting the sticky notes and the mini-command line in the panel bar, upon subsequent restarts it will tell me they are buggy and causing a conflict, and asks if I want to delete them.  Anyone know anything about that?01:55
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navaronety01:55
Cainusbimberi: thanks!01:55
twitchhow can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?01:55
tattersjust give it a few for the changes to propogate through your network01:55
bimberiCainus: np :)01:55
relakanyone can advice a good notebook? :P (no need good graphics card)01:55
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benplautthanks nalioth01:56
twitchhow can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?01:56
naliothguess today's the day01:56
Arafangi1nrelak: I really like my v6v, but it is arguably a high-end laptop with a really good graphics card.01:56
soundraylnx_, it's a bit involved, but not really dangerous. ubotu knows more01:56
Arafangi1nrelak: (Asus)01:56
yheve1are there pre-built packages for a 2.4 kernel?01:56
soundray!tell lnx_ about kernelcompile01:56
Rent-2-Pwnwhen trying to install wine, i added the repository but "wine" doesnt show up, only "wine-doc"01:56
twitchhow can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?01:56
yheve1Rent-2-Pwn: what repository?01:56
relakArafangi1n, hehe, well just want to program a bit... my limit is like 800 euro01:57
naliothtwitch: don't repeat please01:57
Rent-2-Pwnyheve1: deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/01:57
Arafangi1nrelak: Dell laptops are extremely good value, and the warranty is amazing, but I'm not too sure what the linux compatibility is like.01:57
twitchhow do i?01:57
relakArafangi1n, i like IBM (but they are so expensive)01:57
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biovoreArafangi1n: I gotten most of the to work01:57
naliothubotu: tell twitch about repeat01:57
biovoreacpi is sometimes funky01:57
Arafangi1nbiovore: Would you recommend dell in the value department?01:57
navaroneDoes Toshiba still make laptops?01:57
thepenguinhey, im newer to linux and i have a question01:57
biovoreArafangi1n: its been a bit..01:57
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biovoreinspirons are supose to work01:57
yheve1Rent-2-Pwn: Did you "sudo apt-get update" ?01:57
Arafangi1nnavarone: Yes.  I would classify them a safe and reliable choice, but you won't get anything impressive these days.01:58
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yheve1sorry for the silly question...01:58
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tattersthepengiun if your new to linux and have A question your doing well :P01:58
thepenguinWhere do you type in the command to install something like a graphics driver01:58
Rent-2-Pwnyheve1: yes01:58
tattersI have many questions01:58
Arafangi1nHmm, 10G is going to take a while to transfer at 810KB/s01:58
yheve1and can you see "wine" in aptitude?01:58
naliothtatters: use synaptic01:58
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navaroneArafangi1n, was just curious...not in the market atm...<pulls empty pockets out>01:58
bimberithepenguin: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal01:58
tattersI do01:58
thepenguindoes anyone know01:58
Rent-2-Pwnhow do i check to see if wine is in aptitude?01:58
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Auci?01:59
Arafangi1nnavarone: Nor am I, but for some obscure reason, just because I use linux and do programming, people are *always* asking me for laptop advise.01:59
yheve1just open a terminal and write: "sudo aptitude"01:59
naliothRent-2-Pwn: anything in the repos is gonna be availble via aptitude01:59
tatterslol, i have no idea of anyother wya01:59
_keroppi_Can I install ubuntu on the same partition as an existing debian installation, without formatting it? (It's 54 gigs on a 60 gig laptop drive, which is the / and /home partition, don't want to format it)01:59
biovorethepenguin: try CLI01:59
thepenguinit said no suck file or directory01:59
yheve1then press / and write "wine"01:59
thepenguinsuck*01:59
tatterslol@suck01:59
thepenguinsuch*01:59
tattersah01:59
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thepenguinI need to learn to type first..01:59
_keroppi_It's pretty bad when you have no suck file01:59
propietarioHEY02:00
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thepenguinWhere is CLI?02:00
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Rent-2-Pwnno wine is not in sptitude02:00
soundray_keroppi_, that would get you in a mess. You could resize the partitions and make space for new ones for a parallel/dual boot install.02:00
_keroppi_I've got a suck file, win32.dll, sucks hard02:00
navaroneArafangi1n, I find most professional be they techy or mechanical  often are using lower end equipment or driving older cars...lol...go figure02:00
Rent-2-Pwnaptitude*02:00
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soundray!tell thepenguin about cli02:00
yheve1you can press "n" continuously to see all the matching packages for "wine"02:00
naliothubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about wine02:00
_keroppi_soundray: Could I get in with a live cd, and move all critical directories over to *-bak?02:00
lampshadeanyone else notice that their Intel Centrino machines seem to run on the louder setting of fan for longer?  My machine seems noisier02:00
Arafangi1nnavarone: For a very good reason.  Professionals imho tend to be very efficient.02:00
lnx_soundray: so if i rebuild the kernal, i won't lose anything?02:00
propietarioFGHGFHGFHF02:00
naliothRent-2-Pwn: perhaps you need to enable universe and multiverse repos02:00
propietarioGFHGFHFGH02:00
_keroppi_soundray: Basically, does ubuntu let you install without formatting, provided I clear the path for it?02:00
propietarioFHGFHFGH02:00
catchphrasehas anyone tried dapper drake, flight four?02:00
Arafangi1nnavarone: They simply don't get what they don't need for the task.02:01
thepenguinOk, i know what CLI is now02:01
internetiis dapper stable enough to upgrade to?02:01
christianicewm is still sllow for my pc..what now>02:01
thepenguinbut ive tried that02:01
navaroneArafangi1n, and probably solve their own probs...therefore have inexpensive but relaiable equipment etc02:01
biovorethepenguin: what you tring to install?02:01
naliothpropietario: vaya de el #ubuntu-es por favor02:01
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Arafangi1nnavarone: Though, I got my v6v, because I needed a portable laptop I could take to Games Programming lectures.02:01
mark_see my task bar02:01
soundray_keroppi_, it's not a well-tested or recommended procedure, but it may just be possible.02:01
thepenguinbiovore: a nvidia graphics driver02:01
mark_allt he buttons and apps have disapeared from it02:01
ubuntuhey02:01
mark_it's just a wastepaper basket icon02:01
catchphraseinterneti, not sure, downloading it via BT right now.. hope to find out soon on a spare comp :] 02:01
mark_how do i get my icons back etc02:01
mark_:\02:01
biovorethepenguin: in theory it should be "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"02:02
Arafangi1nnavarone: It is my impresison that most first-time laptop buyers like to get the best and greatest, then after they go through a few laptops, start getting economical choices.02:02
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navaroneArafangi1n,  id v6v a Sony...like vaio?02:02
biovoregoogle ubuntu and nvidia.. I am sure there is a howto02:02
Arafangi1nnavarone: It's Asus02:02
soundraylnx_, not normally, no. You can even go back to the stock kernel you are running now.02:02
thepenguinbiovore: it said to type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run"02:02
tonyyarussoAny good tools for monitoring a web page for changes?  (No RSS feed available, page is .php, btw)02:02
interneticatchphrase I was just going to apt-get dist-upgrade02:02
navaroneArafangi1n, you in uk or europe?02:02
christianis the a apt-get for java02:02
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lnx_soundray: i'll try that, thx02:02
AJ_RiddleHello02:02
thepenguinbiovore: i tried it with sudo02:02
mark_can someone tell me how to get the 'workspaces' icon and the icons/bars for applications back on my taskbar?02:02
tonyyarussomark_, You need your trash back in the panel?02:02
naliothubotu: tell christian about java02:02
Arafangi1nnavarone: Practically the only things that don't work on ubuntu (by default) are the SD Ram card drive (builtin), and the FN+F8 (Change screen - have to do it manually via aticonfig)02:02
catchphraseinterneti, the box i had bb5.10 on was formatted a few times. threw XP on there to test out some hardware issue. going back to ubuntu.02:03
Arafangi1nnavarone: Australia02:03
mark_tonyyarusso, no everything else02:03
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mark_trash is the ONLY On there02:03
tatterssynchconise with windows02:03
thepenguinand it said same after i put in password02:03
mark_one*02:03
biovorethepenguin: there are 2 ways..  the nvidia method won't work unless you custom compile your kernel.. there is a package that dose this on ubuntu02:03
AuciIm getting crazy, how do I install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu?02:03
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Arafangi1nnavarone: Haven't tested the bluetooth, burner, firewire, or infra02:03
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AJ_RiddleI just installed ubuntu, and I want to update firefox to version 1.5.x, how do I do this?02:03
tonyyarussomark_, Ah.  'k, still:  Right-click, Add to panel, then just select what you want.02:03
interneticatchphrase have fun with that02:03
bimberiubotu tell thepenguin about nvidia02:03
Arafangi1nnavarone: I purchased it for the graphics card.02:03
soundraylnx_, another thing you could try is download the Flight 4 ("beta") live CD of dapper, the next Ubuntu release, to see if that works better with your laptop.02:03
navaroneArafangi1n, ahh I see...in canada here...don't see many Asus laptops here02:03
christiantahnx02:03
naliothubotu: tell AJ_Riddle about firefox1502:03
catchphraseAuci: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507402:03
thepenguinhow can i install the driver02:03
internetiI have this thing where I compile even when it's not necessary02:03
yheve1Rent-2-Pwn:  well?02:03
Arafangi1nnavarone: Nor here.02:03
soundraylnx_, if it does, you could consider an early upgrade.02:04
Arafangi1nnavarone: It's fast becomming a dell/apple market02:04
soundray!tell lnx_ about dapper02:04
tattersAJ riddle auto-matix o0(controversial)02:04
navaroneArafangi1n, I have asus graphic card in my box...nvidia g302:04
Rent-2-Pwni went to add the repository again, and i clicked to this, and now i cant see where i add it and i cant close synaptic02:04
Arafangi1nnavarone: I used to have an apple, but at $1300 for a repair job (new&better  laptop $1600), I wasn't too impressed and got asus instead.02:04
pianoboy3333I need printer help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=75508902:05
navaroneArafangi1n, I ususally see HP and IBM lappys02:05
yheve1wow... what do you mean, you can't close synaptic?02:05
Arafangi1nnavarone: Those are also relatively popular here.02:05
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Arafangi1nnavarone: Asus happened to have a retail point at my uni, with student discounts ;)02:05
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lnx_soundray: is there a way to build the dapper kernel?02:05
lnx_soundray: you think dapper will support my fan?02:05
Arafangi1nnavarone: And I was impressed with the laptops :)02:05
mark_oh god, I just deleted my panel o_O02:05
christianwhen i type oper in terminal this apperas02:05
mark_how would I 'undelete' my panel02:05
mark_:|02:05
christianappears02:05
catchphrasedapper drake flight 4 is well seeded. nearly peaking out my cable download speed. :D02:05
relakwhat do you need to pay for an IBM 1.3 GHz 256mb RAM wifi g/b & USB in your country?02:05
christianERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.02:06
christianERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.02:06
Arafangi1nmark_: How?02:06
shikamaru85why is my /usr/src empty...shouldn't it have kernel info?02:06
pianoboy3333mark_: if you killall gnome-panel, it should pop back up02:06
FunnyLookinHatcatchphrase, dapper drake isn't out yet I thought??02:06
mac__how do I view .xhtml files? 'python2.4-opengl' deb packages all documentation in .xhtml.gz, and doesn't say how to view this stuff...02:06
Arafangi1nmark_: How did you delete the panel?02:06
tattersrelak 100 used tops02:06
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mark_by right clicking it and deleting it02:06
soundraylnx_, yes, if you're building a kernel anyway, I would suggest you go with 2.6.15. The reason I'm suggesting dapper...02:06
pianoboy3333mark_: or in the terminal do 'gnome-panel'02:06
navaroneArafangi1n, i really have no nedd for a laptop/notebook...but would be nice to have one...<s>02:06
catchphraseFunnyLookinHat: it's sort of in beta right now. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/02:06
relaktatters used "tops"?02:06
lnx_soundray: ok, i'll go for it02:06
Arafangi1nnavarone: I use a laptop alot during lectures mainly.02:06
tatterssecond user system   top= the most I would pay02:07
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soundraylnx_, is that it's just weird that breezy broke your ACPI. Things like that quite often get fixed between releases.02:07
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Arafangi1nnavarone: Also, it's nice to be sorta "in" the house a bit while using the computer, rather than being holed up in a remote room.02:07
shikamaru85why is my /usr/src empty...shouldn't it have kernel info?02:07
catchphraseFunnyLookinHat: throwing it on a spare system that I don't care much for, just to play around with. can't hurt much.02:07
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interneticatchphrase do you think dapper is "ready" yet (in terms of stability)02:07
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Eleaflol02:07
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navaroneArafangi1n, mobility has its advantages02:07
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Arafangi1nnavarone: Yup.02:07
soundraylnx_, remember biovore said it could be a selinux issue. Afaik that is a part of the kernel that is still developing fairly rapidly.02:07
mac__anyone know if there is a ubuntu package with opengl man pages?  used to be in xlibmesa-gl-dev, but that package no longer exists02:08
catchphraseinterneti - since being announced nearly 6 months ago (september, iirc), with ETA of less than 2 months.. it can't be too far off. this release was just a few days ago.02:08
Arafangi1nnavarone: Laptops are fast becomming very popular.  If, however, I was doing professional work for a long time, I would much prefer a desktop, and a nice 21" screen ;)02:08
Rent-2-Pwnhow do i enable universe02:08
FunnyLookinHatcatchphrase, oh coolness, I'll definitely start testing for them02:08
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lnx_soundray: do you when the official release of dapper is?02:08
internetiarafangin its simple its because its " the latest and greatest"02:08
soundray!dapper02:08
ubotuI guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.02:08
catchphraseRent-2-Pwn: in your synaptics package manager, options.02:08
bimberiubuto tell Rent-2-Pwn about universe02:09
lampshadegod damn multitasking is better in Linux than windows02:09
navaroneArafangi1n, I am on a Athlon 1.2 ghz with numerous addons since being bought...had for four years almost now...before that was a P166 with 80mb ram and a 3gb hdd...and 56k...i am inching my way up slowly02:09
Arafangi1ninterneti: I suppose you'd use Debian Experimental if you were on debian.02:09
soundraylampshade, glad you caught onto that fact.02:09
tattersI can buy them all day long in UK at that price 1.3,,,,, I got 1.8 mhz same specs the other day for 12002:09
lampshadeI'm importing like massive amounts of photos right now but windows are still snapping to my click and other stuff like that02:09
Arafangi1nnavarone: Ha! I started with a C64, and a P1 90MHz :)02:09
tattersit makes sense to buy used good in PC compnents IMHO02:09
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soundraylampshade, still no reason to invoke deities here... ;)02:10
sethktatters, depends on the intended use, but certainly in many cases, it can make sense02:10
lampshadelolz02:10
tonyyarussoArafangi1n: Had a C64 here too.  Still works!02:10
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Rent-2-Pwnbimberi: i didnt get that about universe?02:10
tattersif they lasted that long they will last another hundred years, ive never had any problem with used hardware only new02:10
tattershard drives and cd they another matter02:11
shikamaru85anyone know where the symlink to the kernel is kept???02:11
bimberiubotu tell Rent-2-Pwn about universe02:11
Arafangi1ntonyyarusso: Mine was a portable :)02:11
catchphrasethe p90 used to be a floppy disk based linux router. a wireless router decided to take over, though.02:11
sethktatters, I was about to say, if they don't have moving parts02:11
navaroneArafangi1n, first computer my family had was a trs-80...<s> back in the day when the day was long...lol02:11
bimberiRent-2-Pwn: sorry, i can't type02:11
sethktatters, there is eventual degradation due to heat and entropy02:11
Arafangi1ntonyyarusso: I still regret throwing it out :( (I was young and foolish then)02:11
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tonyyarussoArafangi1n: With the little four inch color screen and the keyboard that snapped onto the front as a cover?02:11
lnx_if you do apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper do you lose all your settings and files?02:11
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erikWait.. I have been out of it for a while.. Does dapper have an CD now?? is it semi-stable? Thanks02:11
Arafangi1ntonyyarusso: Yup, the model that had a catridge slot on the top and a single  5 1/4" floppy drive.02:12
christianwait till april02:12
shikamaru85where's my kernel?!?02:12
soundraylnx_, no, you don't, but it's irreversible unless you have a full backup.02:12
catchphraseerik - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/02:12
tonyyarussoerik: There is the fourth Alpha release, which is getting there, but unless you intend to help with the developing you should probably wait.02:12
lnx_soundray: would you recommend going that way?02:12
tonyyarussoArafangi1n: Sweet, same one.02:12
frazmanwwhat can I type to check which kernel I am currently running02:12
bimberibur[n] er: Apps -> System Tools -> System Monitor provides a similar function, but yes an OOTB keyboard shortcut would be nice02:12
tonyyarussofrazmanw: 'uname -r'02:13
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shikamaru85shouldn't there exist a dir like linux-2.6.12***....where is it?02:13
erikLOL Thanks- I have a 250 gig HD that I dont use harldy any of... Ill try it! Thanks!02:13
frazmanwtonyyarusso:  Thanks02:13
bur[n] erbimberi: it's not the launching of it that's a problem... if another app is hung, gnome-system-monitor takes forever to load... in windows, task manager takes precedence02:13
soundraylnx_, I cannot recommend either way, since I don't know how important it is to fix the fan, how urgently you need your laptop and how good you are at tolerating and dealing with difficulties.02:13
sethkshikamaru85, typically in /usr/src02:13
sonyxpany1 here that i could ask for help?02:13
bimberibur[n] er: ah kk02:13
tattersI still got fully working hardware thats more than ten years old I have a 200mb hard that musta cost a 1000 in its time and its still working   ive had hard drive 18 month that died02:13
tonyyarussosonyxp: Everyone.  Just ask.02:13
Arafangi1nsoundray: I've managed to downgrade debian sid to stable, so that's not _strictly_ true ;)02:13
Arafangi1n*sigh*02:13
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shikamaru85sethk: that's the prob...it should be there but /usr/src is completly empty02:14
bur[n] erbimberi: xfce4-taskmanager is faster though... but not quite as cool ;)02:14
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sethkshikamaru85, maybe you need to install a kernel source package?02:14
Arafangi1n!tell sonyxp about ask02:14
sonyxpive seen this win4lin in ---- www.win4lin.com02:14
sonyxpand02:14
navaroneArafangi1n, wtheck is  sparse file?02:14
sethkArafangi1n, a sparse file will use compress down to a very small ordinary file02:14
sonyxpim just gona ask what to download for my ubuntu linux02:14
shikamaru85sethk: linux-386 installed from cd02:14
biovoreArafangi1n: Sparse file?02:14
mjrArafangi1n, nfs? ;P02:15
Arafangi1nsethk: I could try that.02:15
sethkshikamaru85, the image and the source are separate packages02:15
Arafangi1nmjr: No, not nfs02:15
lnx_soundray: just to confirm, i won't lose any files or gdesklets, etc? i've never done a dist-upgrade02:15
erikTatters- WOW! I still use my first ever computers HD- 20 gigs. Works fine! The 80 gig I got for that PC 3 years later died last month....02:15
bimberibur[n] er: kk :)02:15
Arafangi1nOh, scp's picked it up again.02:15
shikamaru85sethk: sorry, lost me there :P02:15
frazmanwcedega does not work with the newest Dapper kernel 2.6.15.15 works ok with 14 though. Anyone run into this?02:15
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tattersyup erik02:15
Kr4t05I installed apachem, how do I run it?02:15
Kr4t05!apache02:15
ubotuapache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom02:15
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biovorefrazmanw: cedega shouldn't have anything to do with the kernel.. selinux maybe?02:16
OmegaAlphaanyone know how to enable direct rendering for an ATI video card?02:16
tonyyarussosonyxp: What are the options available?02:16
Arafangi1nA sparse file is a file that contains a large amount of zero's, and also employs a filesystem optimization that results in a vastly reduced disk storage - only space that takes up is the data.02:16
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soundraylnx_, there is no guarantee that it won't screw up. But if you lost anything it would indeed be a screwup, and that is rare in my experience with Ubuntu.02:16
bur[n] erKr4t05: it runs on install... http://localhost02:16
sethkshikamaru85, if you want the kernel source, it is in a separate package.  when you install the kernel binary, that's what you get.  the kernel binary package if referred to as the kernel image at times02:16
Arafangi1nsethk: I'll compress it if the transfer dies again.02:16
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sethkArafangi1n, k02:16
synd_How do I install the latest Firefox?02:16
lnx_soundray: it sounds like a weekend adventure02:16
bur[n] er!firefox02:16
_jasonubotu: tell synd_ about firefox1.502:16
soundraylnx_, I upgraded hoary to breezy months before the release, and never had a regret.02:16
tonyyarusso!tell synd_ about firefox1.502:16
sonyxpjust a minute mr.  tonyyarusso im just gona go cop it02:16
Arafangi1nsethk: Scratch that, I'll compress and restart ;)02:17
frazmanwbiovore: well I know that with kernel 14 it was fine with the update to 2.6.15.15 it stopped working. If I boot back into last kernel before it is fine again02:17
soundraylnx_, it may be, but you may also be done, up and running by midday Saturday :)02:17
biovoreAnyone gotten firefox1.5 working on amd64 yet?02:17
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synd_tonyyarusso: Thanks.02:17
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biovorefrazmanw: might have to look into that and see whats different02:17
clever`would ubuntu get upset if i moved the hard drive to another pc for a day or 2 then moved it back?02:17
soundraybiovore, I did once, but went back to 1.0.702:17
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Rent-2-Pwni ticked the Showdisabledsoftwaresources button and under the repository it doesnt have universe or multiverse or anything02:17
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biovoremy amd64 box is using firefox-1.0.702:17
tattersanyone got a working IDE hard drive  less than 200MB?02:18
tattersebay?02:18
clever`i have a 40mb and 80mb harddrive02:18
tatterslol02:18
tatters40 mb02:18
soundraybiovore, same here, and to me it is one fine browser.02:18
frazmanwtatters sure in another computer... lol02:18
clever`twice the size of a normal one02:18
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Eleafnice02:18
Eleaf          /02:18
sonyxpthe options available are02:18
lnx_soundray:  true...02:18
sonyxpwin4lin9x.tgz ---  Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01.i386.rpm---Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01.x86_64.rpm ---win4linpro_6.2.5-01_i386.deb--- wts_installer.tgz02:18
Viper550Hello my Ubuntu-loving friends(?)!02:18
EvanCarrollQuick question not really ubuntu realated though i am using dapper-f4, If I'm not showing minimize/maximize/title bar information it is a flaw in the gnome-window-decorator? (btw i'm using/having problems with compiz)02:18
christianhey02:19
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Rent-2-Pwni ticked the Showdisabledsoftwaresources button and under the repository it doesnt have universe or multiverse or anything02:19
frazmanwtatters: I have a really old one in an old old tandy maybe 100MB lol02:19
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Aragorn_Guardianhi ...02:19
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lnx_soundray: will apt-get dist-upgrade automatically do the newest dapper?02:19
marcin`hello could someone tell me how to get an information about which package created/installed some file?02:19
Aragorn_Guardiani need info about working with usb...02:19
tatters:( heres me thinking I had the oldest hard drive on planet02:19
IdleOne!tell Rent-2-Pwn  about repositories02:19
marcin`I need to know which package created /etc/hosts file02:19
bur[n] erlnx_: only if you change sources.list to say dapper instead of breezy02:19
Aragorn_Guardiani see device in /proc/bus/devices02:19
soundraylnx_, but you appreciate that it's hard to make predictions -- especially about the future. (I stole that from somewhere)02:19
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Viper550ummm...what bur[n] er said, I was about to say that too!02:20
Aragorn_Guardianbut how can i acces it??? it dont apear in panel...02:20
soundraylnx_, yes, it will, if you replace all "breezy" occurrences in /etc/apt/sources.list with "dapper"02:20
Rent-2-Pwnidleone: ive read that02:20
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malverian[work] Anyone using Dapper Drake successfully?02:20
navaronemarcin I think that was created at install02:20
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shikamaru85sethk: any idea of the name of the package?? i have 3 linux kernel images installed02:20
Viper550I'm still using Breezy02:20
frazmanwlnx_: it should, but it broke mine. got stuck at pcmcia but I have no pcmcia. lol I ended up doing a fresh install but kept my /home partition02:20
Arafangi1nlnx_: In general, debian-based distros perform upgrades very well.02:20
IdleOne!tell Rent-2-Pwn  about multiverse02:20
sethkshikamaru85, hold on, I'll look one up02:20
marcin`navarone: I guess so - but which package installed this file?02:20
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tonyyarussosonyxp: Well, your best shot is doing it from source (the tgz ones), although a .deb *might* work.  I'm not sure what that last file is honestly.02:20
shikamaru85sethk: tks so much02:20
Aragorn_Guardian??usb02:20
Rent-2-Pwnidleone: ive read that02:20
tattersthat 40 mb hard drive musta cost a fortune in its day02:20
IdleOneRent-2-Pwn:  follow the wiki and you shouldnt have any problems02:20
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malverian[work] I'm upgrading from breezy to dapper. I was curious if I should be warned of any major problems upgrading?02:21
Aragorn_Guardian!usb02:21
ubotuAragorn_Guardian: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:21
sethktatters, I remember paying $750 for a 250K 8 inch floppy drive02:21
Rent-2-Pwnidleone: ive followed it and still dont see wine02:21
lnx_has anyone done the apt-get dist-upgrade?  how were the results?02:21
IdleOneRent-2-Pwn:  you want to install wine?02:21
malverian[work] Namely, are a lot of people seeing this problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13281502:21
tatterslol seth u must be ancient02:21
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[olli] Aragorn_Guardian, yeah. usb 2.0 sucks02:21
Rent-2-Pwnidleone: yes02:21
Arafangi1nlnx_: I perform that routinely on my debian machines, it performs very well.02:21
IdleOne!wine02:21
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robertoboa noite a todos estou tentando instalar uma lib chamada libgtk2.0-dev mais o synaptic diz que tem depencia quebrada alguem aqui pode me dar uma fora02:22
relakArafangi1n, do you know if Centrino means that wifi g/b is on-board?02:22
marcin`what is default content of /etc/hosts file? 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain somecustomhostname?02:22
sethkshikamaru85, look for packages starting with "kernel-tree"02:22
navaronemarcin no idea...why so important?02:22
Aragorn_Guardian[olli] :  how can i make things work???? is a external cd, usb02:22
IdleOne!tell Rent-2-Pwn  about wine02:22
frazmanwlnx_: this looked good, but screwed up my install. maybe you will have better luck. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html02:22
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marcin`navarone: well pretty important I'm trying to create package for some webapplication02:22
soundraylnx_, mind you, Arafangi1n can probably be classified as "wizard" or "guru".02:22
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marcin`navarone: and it uses mysql-database02:22
Rent-2-Pwnidleone: i followed the directions at winehq.com about adding the repository and then installing it but instead of seeing the "wine" package i see "wine-doc"02:22
marcin`navarone: the problem is that everywhere I can use 'localhost' as hostname02:23
Arafangi1nsoundray: Or "fool" :)02:23
Viper550I'm wondering, why does the new Human theme with ClearLooks 2 not have colored scrollbars?02:23
[olli] Aragorn_Guardian, going back to win32 for now. i have problems with my external usb 2.0 harddisc and my laserprinter02:23
marcin`navarone: but for mysql-server I need to use 'localhost.localdomain' to connect02:23
IdleOneRent-2-Pwn:  in terminal type sudo apt-get wine02:23
Aragorn_Guardian:(02:23
soundrayArafangi1n, or that :)02:23
Viper550I know how to add them, but why didn't they take advantage?02:23
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IdleOneRent-2-Pwn:  in terminal type sudo apt-get install wine02:23
tattersanyone used to punch 8 bit wide paper tape?02:23
benplautanyone here know anything about mounting windows shares?02:23
marcin`navarone: I want to investigate why, and what is default content of /etc/hosts02:23
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marcin`navarone: (I don't want to install fresh ubuntu to test it02:24
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cavediverhi there. When I had breezy I had an encryption-center to handle my gpg certificates. But now in Dapper I can't find it. Anyone know the name of the applikcation +02:24
sethktatters, sure02:24
benplaut!samba02:25
ubotusamba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:25
cavediverI also had encrypt as an option when right-clicking files. Maybe that was the same application.02:25
benplaut!botsnack02:25
ubotu:)02:25
_jasonmarcin`: you can use a livecd02:25
navaronemarcin mine has 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhostubuntu <-- and beneath are lines that I assume are for ipv602:25
bimberimarcin`: by default the first line is "127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       <yourhostname>" and after that there is a whole lot of IPV6 stuff02:25
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Rent-2-Pwnidleone: rent-2-pwn@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine02:25
Rent-2-PwnReading package lists... Done02:25
Rent-2-PwnBuilding dependency tree... Done02:25
Rent-2-PwnPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:25
Rent-2-PwnThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:25
Rent-2-Pwnis only available from another source02:25
Rent-2-PwnE: Package wine has no installation candidate02:25
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_jasonubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about pastebin02:25
Arafangi1nsoundray: btw, At one point I ran debian sid for 6 months without a single upgrade, then upgraded right in the middle of the entire gcc-4 transition.02:25
Aragorn_Guardianusb-storage is not in lsmod....could this be wrong???02:25
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Rent-2-Pwnsorry...02:25
_jasonRent-2-Pwn: you need to enable universe02:26
_jasonubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about universe02:26
navarone^5 bimberi02:26
MacbethAny one know how i could change the colour of the text in the panles in gnome?02:26
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Viper550Who enjoys ClearLooks 2.0?02:26
marcin`bimberi: thanks mine is the same02:26
sethkMacbeth, edit the current profile from the menu02:26
sethkMacbeth, or create a new profile with different color choices, either way works02:26
Arafangi1nsoundray: Everything that used qt, (and most C++ programs) broke.02:26
bimberinavarone: ??  (i might have missed something)02:27
IdleOneRent-2-Pwn:  I dont use wine. but I think if you follow the instructions in the wiki carefully it should go fine02:27
soundrayArafangi1n, sounds like great fun.02:27
Macbethsethk, sorry, im a noob, where abouts would i got to edit?02:27
sethkAragorn_Guardian, might just not be loaded02:27
Rent-2-Pwn_jason: ive read that already, it tells me to tick "Showdisabledsoftwaresources" and then tick the box next to the repository, the repository doesnt have universe under it02:27
Arafangi1nsoundray: I switched to ubuntu ;)02:27
_jasonubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about easysource02:27
sethkMacbeth, the edit menu02:27
Arafangi1nsoundray: But I still prefer debian on servers.02:27
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soundrayArafangi1n, you must have felt like I did when I had taken my tractor apart and couldn't put it together again.02:28
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_jasonRent-2-Pwn: then make yourself a new /etc/apt/sources.list and replace your current one02:28
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navaronebimberi ^5 mean highfive for telling marcin info like me02:28
relakArafangi1n, does centrino include wifi?02:28
Rent-2-Pwn_jason: i have already made a new sources.list02:28
shikamaru85sethk: i installed that package but still no symlink in / usr/ src02:28
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Viper550Anyone want to talk art on # ubuntu-art?02:28
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_jasonRent-2-Pwn: so you are saying you have universe?02:29
sethkshikamaru85, I don't recall having to make a link, but I more frequently install the kernel source tarball.02:29
Arafangi1nsoundray: I felt more like refilling my car up with petrol and discovering it was diesel, to be honest ;)02:29
IdleOne_jason:  I dont think he enabled universe / multiverse properly02:29
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sethkshikamaru85, did you get a tarball named linux-source-2.whatever?02:29
Arafangi1nrelak: Wifi is generally advertised on laptops that have it.02:29
Macbethsethk, that in themes? or should i have a certain package to edit themes and panels?02:29
navaronesoundray you have a tractor?02:29
Arafangi1nrelak: I _think_ centrino does, but I would check on the specific laptops to be sure.02:29
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soundrayrelak, centrino is wifi plus other things, Intel brand.02:30
_jasonRent-2-Pwn: can you paste the current contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?02:30
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shikamaru85sethk: yup02:30
Rent-2-Pwn_jason: sure oen sec02:30
shinydanevening all02:30
punkrockguy318How can I enable metacity's new composite features?02:30
soundraynavarone, sold it. Was very nice, though, 800cc single cylinder, 16 hp... #ubuntu-offtopic?02:30
Arafangi1nHmm, how do I setup a vpn at uni? I was under the impression that I would use pptp, but it doesn't appear to allow authentication.02:30
Arafangi1nI need authentication.02:30
navaronemacbeth I can't see anything in config editor for panel text02:31
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Arafangi1n(It's a windows shop, so I can't ask for specific versions, etc - they expect it to just work)02:31
relakHmm ok!02:31
sethkshikamaru85, yup on the tarball?  You have to extract the source from it.  Sorry, that slipped my mind.02:31
navaronesoundray...no was just curious if you really had a tractor...lol02:31
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Aragorn_Guardiansethk:  it is needed for usb work ?02:31
Viper550So, think good ol Ubuntu needs a new Metacity theme?02:31
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shinydanjust tried to install the Aegis virus scanner. The Add Applications window told me it was in Applications: Accessories.02:31
Arafangi1nsoundray: At work our car got bogged, so we hired a tractor to get it out :)02:31
soundraynavarone, I bought it because of the label... Porsche.02:31
shinydanit's not there. Huh?02:31
Arafangi1nsoundray: Unfortunately it also got bogged...02:31
navaronesoundray was it a Deerie?02:31
Rent-2-Pwn_jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/902002:32
navaronelol02:32
Macbethnavarone, thats what i thought, cant see any simple way of doing it.02:32
winXpertsArafangi1n, ussually they use Cisco VPN they should have a linux client02:32
soundraynavarone, Porsche!02:32
nitinshantharamany dev's here know when 2.6.16~ will be merged into dapper? (it fixes the smart-battery bugs on my ferrari 4005)02:32
Arafangi1nwinXperts: Do you happen to know of the client?02:32
_jasonRent-2-Pwn: what version of ubuntu and what architecture are you using?02:32
navaronesoundray yeah they started making farm equipment02:32
bur[n] errelak: centrino is just a marketing term to say pentium m and an ipw2100/2200 wireless card02:32
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Rent-2-Pwn_jason: im using breezy badger/ amd6402:32
_jasonRent-2-Pwn: wine is only in the repos for 38602:33
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soundraynavarone, they had a factory by Lake Constance where they built these smart little machines.02:33
shikamaru85sethk: sorry to bother more but what are te comand line options for untaring bz202:33
Rent-2-Pwnomg.........02:33
bur[n] ershikamaru85: tar xvfj02:33
Rent-2-Pwnok thanks anyway02:33
navaronesoundray was it fullgrown or one of those lawntractor wannabes?02:33
Arafangi1nshikamaru85: bz2 files are decompressed using bunzip202:33
djmaster13miaou les chats :p02:33
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shinydanum, could someone help me with Aegis?02:34
Arafangi1nshikamaru85: If you're talking about .tar.bz2, that's tar -xvjf file.tar.bz202:34
_jasonRent-2-Pwn: I don't think there is a 64bit wine, but I don't know too much about wine.  There are probably some how-to's on the forums if you search02:34
Arafangi1nshikamaru85: The very latest version of tar (WHich might not be in ubuntu yet) does not need the -j option.02:34
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navaroneshinydan lemme guess...you are scanning windows partition and getting tonnes of hits?02:34
Arafangi1nshikamaru85: But I like to add it anyway.02:34
soundraynavarone, it weighed 800kg, so I guess that's the first category up from a lawn tractor :)02:34
shinydannope. just trying to install the damn thing02:34
Arafangi1n_jason: There is a 64-bit version of wine, but not in ubuntu, have to compile from source.02:34
navaroneshinydan, okay...lol02:34
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shinydanran Add Applications02:34
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shinydanwaited for the thing to finish02:35
_jasonArafangi1n: seems rent left, but thanks for letting me know02:35
shinydangot "it's in Applications: Accessories". Except it isn't.02:35
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bur[n] eranyone know the trick to get the flight 4 dapper livecd to work with qemu?02:35
navaroneshinydan try system tools02:35
nitinshantharamany dev's here know when 2.6.16~ will be merged into dapper? (it fixes the smart-battery bugs on my ferrari 4005)02:36
soundrayArafangi1n, do you need a 64bit Windows to go with 64bit wine?02:36
Arafangi1nsoundray: I don't think so.02:36
winXpertsArafangi1n, they create one specific for the univ latest ver is 4.602:36
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Arafangi1nsoundray: Wine these days are trying to setup their own environment, and not to require windows.02:36
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mjrafaik wine is not attempting to run 32-bit windows binaries on 64-bit wine, at least last I checked02:37
cavediverIs there an app for handling gpg for gnome ?02:37
fangoriousanyone find a workaround for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/31712?02:37
mjr(so you'd need a 32-bit wine to run win32 software)02:37
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_jasoncavediver: seahorse02:37
Arafangi1nmjr: Quite probable.02:37
shinydaninteresting02:37
navaronecongrats moonunit02:37
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soundrayArafangi1n, mjr, that's useful, tx02:37
navaroneshinydan, didja find it02:37
fangoriouscavediver: gnome-gpg02:37
moonunitnavarone, my hoary install blew up02:37
shinydanI called up the Applications Menu editor02:37
cavediverthankes02:38
shinydan_that_ thinks that Aegis is installed and visible02:38
shinydanbut it still isnt02:38
navaronemoonunit, umm..."hoars" have a way of doing that at inopportune moments...Ahem02:38
bimbericavediver: seahorse02:38
cavediverthanks02:38
cavediverthat was the name02:38
moonunitnavarone, thats what you get for not upgrading02:39
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moonunit:P02:39
bimbericavediver: yw :)02:39
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soundraynitinshantharam, I'm not a dev, but I reckon since 2.6.16 isn't even out yet, it'll be a while yet.02:39
shinydannavarone: I called up the Applications Menu editor, which thinks Aegis is sat in the correct Menu. But it isn't.02:39
navaronemoonunit, I never used hoary...always had breezy...it's where I came in so to speak02:39
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navaroneshinydan check Application/Sytem Tools02:40
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moonunitnavarone, i learned that breezy was out, about a week after i started running hoary, so when my hoary install broke, i just upgraded02:40
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nitinshantharamsoundray: ugh, its the only kernel that lets me get battery status off my ferrari 4005 :( i think r4 of the kernel is out though02:40
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shinydannavarone: no, not there. Installed Firestarter at the same time, and _that's_ there alright02:40
Razor-XAnyone here use rt2570 drivers for wireless access?02:40
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Razor-XOr play PrBoom?02:41
navaroneshinydan, press alt-f2 and type aegis-scanner and see if it works02:41
_lemsx1_!bmpx02:41
ubotu_lemsx1_: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:41
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lnx_soundray: so i got anxious and did the apt-get dist-upgrade, do i need to restart for it to take effect?02:42
shinydanum, yes02:42
bimberibur[n] er: 'cockfosters' was considered :P - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero/UbuntuCommunityTalk02:42
bur[n] erlol02:42
catchphraselol02:42
shinydanyes, except that there's a "new version of File::scan available" and I don't know the p/w to get it02:43
soundraylnx_, to get the benefit of the updated kernel, yes.02:43
shinydannavarone: yes, except that there's a "new version of File::scan available" and I don't know the p/w to get it02:43
lnx_soundray: i'll give it a go...02:43
_lemsx1_!learn add bmpx BMPx sources for Debian packages (currently Ubuntu Dapper and Debian experimental since libneon25-dev is needed) http://people.debian.org/~ari/experimental/bmpx/02:43
navaroneshinydan I always get that and it says it updates but never seems to take02:43
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, _lemsx1_02:43
shinydanright02:43
shinydanso it doesn't actually update02:43
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CaNsAword02:44
CaNsAfull install02:44
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shinydannavarone: so is there a virus scanner that actually works?02:44
CaNsAthhe debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)02:44
navaroneshinydan, to tell the truth I rarely use aegis at all...i have Clamav as well...but frankly I don't worry too much about viruses and such in linux. I use ubuntu for most of my online stuff now02:44
Arafangi1nshinydan: You don't actually need a virus scanner.02:44
shinydanok02:44
shinydanhm.02:44
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CaNsAwhat does that mean?02:45
catchphraseooh. the boot menu in dapper drake is pretty. :D02:45
Arafangi1ncatchphrase: "Full Install" generally means "Install Everything".02:45
navaronecatchphrase, you've convinced me to upgrade...;)02:45
CaNsAwhat does this mean though? >>> debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)02:46
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shinydanthanks guys/gals02:47
Arafangi1nCaNsA: Just that.02:47
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Nunquam_FidelisHow does one create a password for Samba using the terminal?02:47
Arafangi1nCaNsA: Exited with error (Error code 1)02:47
spyder89hello need some help i am a noob02:47
Arafangi1nCaNsA: More context provides far more meaningful errors.02:47
CaNsAdoes that mean i have a bad copy?02:47
Nunquam_Fidelisspyder89: No helping the fact you're a noob, what do you need help with?02:47
navaroneshinydan I used aegis on my windows partition and it gave me loads of false detections. I use about 4 progs for virus detection etc in windows and I'm am pretty careful about things like that so I know the hits are wrong. Nothing shows up when I scan in windows on any program02:47
Kr4t05!apache02:47
ubotumethinks apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom02:47
CaNsAArafangi1n, i am doing a full install on fresh hdd02:47
navaronebugger he left :/02:48
fangoriousNunquam_Fidelis: sudo smbpasswd -a username02:48
fangoriousNunquam_Fidelis: I think02:48
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spyder89well i am downloading the iso for my machine and can't figure out how to install this system02:48
Arafangi1nCaNsA: I'll bet dollars to peanuts that's not the only output you have.02:48
Nunquam_Fidelisfangorious: You = genious, thanks.02:48
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soundraynavarone, I enjoyed the read anyway ;)02:48
_lemsx1_how do i add something to ubotu?02:48
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navaronesoundray don't applaud...throw money...<s>02:48
Nunquam_Fidelisspyder89: Have you burned the ISO to disc yet?02:49
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fangoriousNunquam_Fidelis: don't thank me until the you've confirmed being able to log in with that user from a client machine02:49
fangorious;)02:49
IdleOnecan anybody help me install eggdrop? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/902202:49
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Nunquam_Fidelisfangorious: I've done it before and it worked, I just forgot the process. I am confident it will.02:49
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navaronethank ye kindly guvner02:49
spyder89once when i turn on the computer what do i type in at the c prompt02:49
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Aragorn_Guardiani need help with usb.. :(02:49
shikamaru85seth: still having the same orignal prob...get this error make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.02:50
shikamaru85rt2570.ko failed to build!02:50
Razor-Xshikamaru85: Ah, you're using rt2570!02:50
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soundrayc prompt!? Switch it off again and install Ubuntu, spyder8902:50
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bimberiIdleOne: install build-essential and retry02:50
Razor-Xshikamaru85: It builds fine for me with 2.6.12-10-686, but it doesen't work all that well.02:50
Aragorn_Guardian"lspci -v|grep HCI"  shows info, but how can i mount devices...02:50
lnx_soundray: well i restarted, and everything seems to be exactly the same (fan included) is there any way to check to make sure it worked?02:50
shikamaru85Razor-X: desperatly trying to02:50
navaronespyder89, you need bios set to boot from  cd as well02:51
IdleOnebimberi:  ok02:51
spyder89soundray what do u mean02:51
soundraylnx_, uname -a02:51
spyder89should i not have a c prompt02:51
shikamaru85Razor-X: what do u recomend?02:51
Razor-Xshikamaru85: Does a ``make'' work fine?02:51
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: did you install the linux-sources package?02:51
Razor-Xshikamaru85: I'm using ndiswrapper at the moment, it isn't something I like, but it's better than nothing.02:51
navaronespyder did you boot up with install cd in drive?02:51
lnx_soundray: Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Mon Feb 13 12:13:15 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:51
soundrayspyder89, if you got a C: prompt, you are running DOS.02:51
lnx_soundray: that's the same isn't it?02:51
spyder89i did have the bios set to cdrom first but it just looks at it then moves on02:51
soundraylnx_, yes.02:51
CaNsAand again, installing the base system i get the error again02:52
CaNsAdebootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)02:52
navaronespyder did you burn the iso onto cd as data or as an image?02:52
lnx_soundray: try it again?02:52
erikThe CD COULD be bad-02:52
soundraylnx_, it's probably a good idea to apt-get install linux-38602:52
namewhy can't i open other partitions?02:52
spyder89i burned it as iso02:52
lnx_soundray: what does that do?02:53
nameit says i don't have the permisssion02:53
_lemsx1_how do i teach something to ubotu?02:53
erikI always burn my install cd's at as slow as they can go to prevent errors....02:53
_lemsx1_ubotu: ?02:53
ubotu_lemsx1_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:53
_jasonname: what do you want to teach him?02:53
navarone_lemsx1_, you can't02:53
erikbut I doubt that is your problem02:53
_lemsx1_navarone: oh, nice. can somebody do it? i want to store info about bmpx02:53
soundraylnx_, linux-386 depends on the most current kernel for your Ubuntu version (i.e. Dapper, if the upgrade ran through).02:53
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IdleOnebimberi:  thats was it thanks ()02:54
navarone_lemsx1_, I am not sure who is responsible for that task02:54
Razor-XIdleOne: Haha, still using that, tsu?02:54
IdleOneRazor-X:  yeah02:54
Razor-XIdleOne: Tsu.02:54
soundraylnx_, just run 'sudo dpkg --pending --configure' to make sure the upgrade is complete.02:54
spyder89soundray should i not be running dos02:54
nameI can't open partitions02:54
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Razor-Xspyder89: DOS in Linux, wha?02:55
navaronespyder89, no02:55
IdleOneis tcl pre installed or do I need to install it ?02:55
_jasonname: can you mount them? what filesystem?02:55
soundrayspyder89, not if you're looking for support here.02:55
bimberiIdleOne: np 02:55
spyder89sorry02:55
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namentfs02:55
tonyyarusso_lemsx1_, navarone: Actually, anybody can add things to ubotu's knowledge, provided it's legitimate.  cafuego monitors those and manages the bot, and will occasionally go through and purge factoids that are not necessary.02:55
_jasonname: have you been give a link to the wiki page?02:55
Razor-Xbimberi: Tsu, you too?02:55
spyder89so, how do i format my harddrive an get rid of dos02:55
nameno i don't have a link02:56
_jasonubotu: tell name about ntfs02:56
navaronespyder89, either cd is bad or you have boot sequence wrong...02:56
IdleOne!tcl02:56
ubotuIdleOne: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:56
bimberiRazor-X: no, just a copycat :)02:56
punkrockguy318is there any program that will lock my vt once it's been inactive for a certain amount of time?02:56
Razor-Xbimberi: Meh, tsu.02:56
IdleOnebimberi:  you happen to know the path to libtcl.so?02:57
spyder89navarone when i put the image onto the toast it sees everything and is too large for one disk02:57
soundraypunkrockguy318, xscreensaver. (System-Preferences-Screensaver)02:57
biovoreIdleOne: ldconfig -v | gerp libtcl02:57
biovore(grep)02:57
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navaronespyder you've lost me02:58
soundraypunkrockguy318, erm, by vt, did you mean text terminal?02:58
punkrockguy318soundray: yeah that works fine, but what about for vts?02:58
punkrockguy318soundray: yeah02:58
lnx__soundray: it says it's already the newest02:58
punkrockguy318soundray: i know vlock exists but i don't think that will lock when idle02:58
Aragorn_Guardiani can mount my usb cd in /dev/sda...is this???02:58
bimberiIdleOne: sorry no - i do have a /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.002:58
bur[n] eranyone have an azureus 2.4.0 deb by chance?02:58
spyder89navarone, i have 2 computers this one which is a mac g5 and an old one which is a pc with a cyrix media gx chip02:59
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biovorebur[n] er: its java.. install jre and install azuereus from there site02:59
spyder89iwant to turn it into a server02:59
naliothubotu: tell bur[n] er about azureus02:59
biovorespyder89: use debian02:59
navaroneokay...nine o'clock...time for a smoke and chill time...cya all alter02:59
spyder89isn't debian huge02:59
Aragorn_GuardianIdleOne:  path of libs are in /etc/ld.so.conf....after alter it, you must run ldconfig...02:59
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bur[n] erbiovore: i can run it just fine... i was just hoping for a .deb so it integrates into apt02:59
biovorebur[n] er: no luck there03:00
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amphispyder89: enormous ;)03:00
bur[n] ernalioth: that points to a dead link which is an old version anyway :\03:00
soundraylnx_, is that linux-386?03:00
bur[n] erpackages.debian.org is down03:00
bur[n] erthanks anyway biovore03:01
shikamaru85someone had asked me if i installed linux-sources..but i don't have that in the repositories03:01
naliothbur[n] er: check seveas repos03:01
spyder89amphi: i only have like 13 gigs to work with03:01
amphibur[n] er: try pdo.debian.net03:01
Arafangi1nbur[n] er: It's always down.03:01
bur[n] er!seveas03:01
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:01
amphispyder89: you don't have to install all of it ;)03:01
amphispyder89: or even any of it, beyond the base-system03:01
_lemsx1_tonyyarusso: thanks for the information. i just wanted to add info about bmpx which is a legit thing to have there since there is no ubuntu package for it but it can be easily compiled under Dapper03:02
spyder89is it possible to run ubuntu instead03:02
Arafangi1nspyder89: Debian is one of the oldest distros of them all, and has aquired a large number of packages.03:02
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amphispyder89: you can get the ~100MB netinstall iso03:02
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spyder89really:03:02
spyder89where from03:02
Arafangi1nspyder89: The culture behind ubuntu lends it easily to desktop use, but debian is really more ideal for *servers*.03:02
shikamaru85i guess my question is..what do i have to do to get my kernel inside /usrc/src03:02
amphispyder89: you can run any distro you like03:02
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steven_hello03:03
amphidebian makes a fine desktop IMHO03:03
steven_first time on here03:03
Arafangi1namphi: Just not as nice as ubuntu ;)03:03
Arafangi1namphi: Nor as convenient.03:03
lnx__soundray: apt-get linux-386 said it was already the newest03:03
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amphiArafangi1n: dunno, I'm not a DE kind of guy03:03
IdleOnebimberi:  may I msg you?03:03
Arafangi1namphi: In that case, debian would be nicer.03:04
steven_and I love ubuntu03:04
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: i asked you about linux-sources-`uname -r` for your kernel. once you have that installed it would be easier to compile modules. the linux-headers-`uname -r` package should also help but the build directory is linked to the sources one03:04
Arafangi1nDamn, "file size limit exceeded" - damn fat32 partitions!03:04
soundraylnx_, you still seem to be on breezy. Replace all "breezy" with "dapper" in sources.list, run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'03:04
amphiArafangi1n: heh - 2GB?03:04
Arafangi1namphi: 4GB03:04
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biovoreArafangi1n: what are you doing that needs more then 4GB.. video?03:05
Arafangi1nbiovore: Disc images for qemu03:05
biovoreah03:05
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shikamaru85_lemsx1_: really sorry, noob at this...can u plz explain again what u said i should do03:05
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amphiArafangi1n: unsigned int I presume, unlike wget03:05
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LiteHeddedeasy sources please?03:05
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maxwellYo03:05
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_jasonLiteHedded: /msg ubotu easysource03:05
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Arafangi1namphi: In the case of wget, you need both a distro with large file support (I'm 99.99% certain that ubuntu does), AND a webserver with large file support.03:06
Arafangi1namphi: And apache has only very recently been able to serve files larger than 2GB03:06
spyder89amphi, i am looking at downloads for debian, what do you recommend debian-30r1-i386-binary-1-703:06
amphiArafangi1n: I know the webserver does, because curl had no probs03:06
Arafangi1namphi: File a bug03:06
IdleOneis tcl8.4.6 in the repos?03:06
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: sudo apt-get install linux-sources-`uname -r`03:07
amphiArafangi1n: I was downloading a movie from archive.org03:07
biovoreapt-cache search tcl03:07
IdleOnethank you03:07
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: when that's done let me know03:07
[olli] hmm, are the usb 2.0 problems fixed in dapper?03:07
lnx__soundray: sorry i was missing those, i got a new nick when i came back 'lnx__'03:07
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fangorious[olli] : which?03:07
amphiArafangi1n: yeah, perhaps I should03:07
zebraFusion_lemsx1_, what are linux-sources?03:07
biovore[olli] : USB2.0 works here on brezzy03:07
_lemsx1_zebraFusion: kernel sources for the current kernel in ubuntu03:08
[olli] fangorious, write lock and not full speed. works fine under windows03:08
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soundrayGot this one? lnx__, you still seem to be on breezy. Replace all "breezy" with "dapper" in sources.list, run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'03:08
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zebraFusion_lemsx1_, what sources?03:08
maxwellHey, I don't suppose anybody knows how to get a HP5610xi to effing work on Ubuntu?03:08
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amphispyder89: I'd use the netinstall, if that's practical for you - but ubuntu might be better for you03:08
shikamaru85_lemsx1_, E: Couldn't find package linux-sources-2.6.12-10-38603:08
shikamaru85 :S03:08
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: ah, linux-source-`uname -r` sorry. not sources03:08
riddleboxsoundray, dapper is still unstable correct?03:09
soundraypunkrockguy318, I suggest you run your session in GNU screen, and use autolog to control your terminal.03:09
soundrayriddlebox, correct.03:09
_lemsx1_zebraFusion: sources for the Linux kernel. /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build is a symlink to that /usr/src/linux-source-`uname -r`03:09
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shikamaru85E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-10-38603:09
shikamaru85 :S03:09
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1203:10
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: :-) the 3rd is the charm ;-)03:10
bimberiIdleOne: sorry, was away, /msg is OK - looks like you have an answer though :)03:10
riddleboxsoundray, is the release date still in march?03:10
soundraypunkrockguy318, that way, when autolog times you out, you can log back in and reattach the screen session03:10
soundray!dapper03:10
ubotudapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.03:10
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: yup ;)03:10
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[olli] too bad. must go back to windows. see you later in about 1-2 years if linux is working better than03:10
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Eleaflol03:10
allanDoes anyone know how to get the ATI drivers working correctly?03:10
spyder89netinstall won't work yet03:11
spyder89question how do i prep my comp03:11
RollerCI need some help installing a linksys wireless usb G router (V4), I was told to install ndiswrapper, I then did ndiswrapper -i [the inf file for the driver] , I then do ndiswrapper -l and it shows the driver, says driver present, hardware present, I then go to networking and for some reason I only have ethernet and modem still... can anyone help me with this?03:11
spyder89formatting harddrive and so on03:11
allani have the 2.6.15 kernel... and the latest drivers... but OpenGL STILL won't work right03:11
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: when that's done go into /usr/src and untar the sources (if  not already done for you): tar xjf linux-source...tar.bz203:11
JRlinuxhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410460  says that the new Dapper Drake will drive the wireless Broadcom 4318.  Would that include dapper-install-amd64.iso and dapper-live-i386.iso (615MB)03:11
punkrockguy318soundray: thanks.. is there any other way besides screen that you know of?03:11
soundrayspyder89, the ubuntu installer does it for you.03:11
amphispyder89: the installer will do that for you, assuming you have empty space on the drive03:11
_lemsx1_allan: i do. what do you need to know?03:11
amphispyder89: but this is not really the channel to be asking about installing debian03:12
lnx__soundray: it syas it will take 2hours is that accurate?03:12
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soundraypunkrockguy318, hey, it took me long enough to come up with that one :)03:12
allanwell, i installed the drivers... and it still gives me the Mesa project crap when I put in fglrxinfo03:12
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allanopenGL doesn't work right03:12
soundraylnx__, no idea. The determining factor is your net connection.03:12
punkrockguy318soundray: alright, thank you :)03:12
whatwhathello03:12
spyder89ok i would like to put ubuntu on the comp, where can i find info on how to do that step by step03:12
_lemsx1_allan: i wrote a little something about that: http://lems.kiskeyix.org/puntoyaparte/article.php?story_id=5703:12
lnx__soundray: yeah dumb question.  i'm on a "t1"03:13
_lemsx1_allan: i'm using Xgl now ;-)03:13
RollerCI need some help installing a linksys wireless usb G router (V4), I was told to install ndiswrapper, I then did ndiswrapper -i [the inf file for the driver] , I then do ndiswrapper -l and it shows the driver, says driver present, hardware present, I then go to networking and for some reason I only have ethernet and modem still... can anyone help me with this?03:13
maxwellCrap....anybody?  Can't get the stupid scanner to work.03:13
soundraylnx__, then it depends on the number and size of the packages you have installed.03:13
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allanim using breezy, not dapper03:13
relakcan i tell XChat that it saves the channels im in on IRC so it automaticly connects when i start Xchat next time??03:13
lnx__soundray: 1176 upgraded, 169 newly installed, 43 to remove and 2 not upgraded.03:13
CaNsAwhy cant i install the base system?03:13
_lemsx1_allan: same thing... just put "breezy" where it says "dapper"03:13
allanok, sweet03:14
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allanshould i uninstall the 8.22.5 drivers completely before i do this?03:14
RollerCcan anyone help me with my networking problem?03:14
JRlinuxrelak go to the X-Chat menu upper left.  You can enter the channels you want to boot into there03:14
_lemsx1_spyder89: go to wiki.ubuntu.com03:14
soundraylnx__, if you start it now, the progress indicator will be fairly accurate within a few minutes. You can always Ctrl-C and continue later if it's taking too long.03:14
_lemsx1_allan: i'd say so... did you have to dpkg-divert something?03:15
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shikamaru85_lemsx1_: all done03:15
spyder89thank you03:15
relakJRlinux, XChat -> ? where03:15
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: untar as well?03:15
lnx__soundray: i think it'll be ok03:15
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instabinhow do i add space to my lvm03:15
allani got the 8.22.5 drivers, got the installer to make the .deb files, and then intalled the fglrx-control and fglrx-driver03:15
thomas_How do i use hydra with ubuntu?03:15
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allanhow would i go about removing those two?03:16
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: make sure that /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build is a symlink to /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6....03:16
thomas_How do i use hydra-gtk with ubunutu?03:16
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JRlinuxrelak... sorry... looking for that spot now.03:16
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_lemsx1_allan: you used the installer to create the .deb's ? that's what i say in my little howto03:16
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tony_somethingis it possible to connect with wifi on a mac03:16
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allani did, but i didnt install them all, just the driver and the control panel03:16
tony_somethingand if so how do I do it03:16
thomas_How do i use hydra with ubuntu?03:17
allanwas i supposed to install the others?03:17
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soundraylnx__, that's good, because I need a bit of sleep now.03:17
_lemsx1_allan: make sure that /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 is the right file -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 620K 2006-02-18 15:36 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2*03:17
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thomas_How do i use hydra with ubuntu?03:17
hanasakiwhat software can be used, witha gui, and DVD+R DL03:17
soundray!tell thomas_ about repeat03:17
_lemsx1_allan: the other stuff doesn't matter... the only problem you might have is to get the module for your kernel to compile ;-)03:17
hanasakidoes a dirve spec of DVD+R DL   mean it can only read the disk or can it write too?03:18
soundraylnx__, hope you get it working.03:18
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lnx__soundray: thank you very much for all your help03:18
allanshould i dpkg -i the others though?03:18
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spyder89alright, anyone who wants to help heres what i am doing right now03:18
filloyhey there !!!03:18
_lemsx1_allan: cd /usr/src; tar xjf fglrx.tar.bz2; cd modules/fglrx; KSRC=/usr/src/linux KVERS=`uname -r` debian/rules build_modules03:19
soundraylnx__, pleasure. Bye...03:19
spyder89my comp is running windows 98, i am formatting it right now03:19
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filloywell, i just have to tell ya all guys, that i tried Fedora Core 4 for 1 weak, and...if i loved Ubuntu before that, now i love it even more !!03:19
_lemsx1_allan: that's assuming that /usr/src/linux is a symlink to your kernel sources03:19
lnx__soundray: bye03:19
lnx__thx again03:19
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hanasakifilloy  what did u find good/bad in fc403:19
_lemsx1_allan: in my case i have 2.6.15.3 here03:19
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hanasakifilloy  i started w/ debian cause everyone said it was hard to do and i wanted to learn.. now deb and ubuntu are my favs03:20
JRlinuxrelak  Darn, I set mine up for automatic, but now don't see it ... unless it is Server ->Join Channel03:20
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allannope. i think i changed the symlink when i was doing the HOWTO on compiling the kernel.03:20
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: the build dir doesn't even exist in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/03:20
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instabinhello could some one help me extend my lvm03:21
filloyhanasaki: too bugy, not very efficient, hard to work, i mean, they have the RPM's, but o find them is a pain in the kernel......and their comunity isnt so kind as this one03:21
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hanasakifilloy  hehe i hear apt-get was ported to rh to support rpm.. just rumor03:21
spyder89amphi you there03:21
filloyhanasaki: but i must say, the best linux comunity, no offence, i really like you guys, is the Gentoo one :)03:21
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: create one then: ln -s /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6... /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build03:21
B_166-ER-Xcould someone explain me what is my problem ? something like WTF is THAT ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/903003:22
B_166-ER-Xk3b error03:22
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: make sure you unpack your sources already03:22
instabini use ubuntu03:22
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: yup, already untared03:22
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hanasakihmmm filloy  i ahve gone in there for general linux questions... dont see much diff.. some are great and some need a personality adjustment , jus tlike in the real world lol03:23
JRlinuxrelak,  X-Chat->Server List->Edit->Channels to Join03:23
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_lemsx1_allan: i have 2.6.15.3 kernel and fglrx drivers already in a .deb... if you want them, let me know. else, you can use my make-kpkg.sh script (interactive) to create .deb's packages for the latest kernel source03:23
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filloyhanasaki: ha, well, maybe i was lucky :D03:23
Travishi guys, where can I get a list of all the games avaliable for ubuntu on apt03:24
B_166-ER-Xcan someone help fora K3b error ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/903003:24
hanasakihehe03:24
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: ok, you are almost there. just use ln -s to make a symlink to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build03:24
C_J_ProTravis, there are more than what meets the eye when it comes to the number of games03:24
filloyhanasaki: well, the point is that im going back to ubuntu in the Desktop, i think i will trash the actual Fedora Core 4 CD's and go back again to a stable system03:24
C_J_Prothere is always the star wars game in OOo and the minesweeper game in aptitude03:24
C_J_Probut then I think there is a category for games03:25
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C_J_Proinfact03:25
C_J_ProTravis, try checking out ubuntugaming.org03:25
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: ok03:25
hanasakifilloy  smarty man/woman hehe03:25
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: done03:25
allanexcuse me for not completely understanding, im still trying to grasp all of this. right now i have the 2.6.15 kernel. i used the ati installer to create the Ubuntu 5.10 .deb files. i installed only two: flgrx-drivers and fglrx-control. i do, or dont need to install more? do i have enough to continue with your how to?03:25
danlhow do you echo the results of a linux command to irssi ussing "/exec"03:25
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: i have to step out for a few hours.. bbl03:25
_lemsx1_allan: http://www.kiskeyix.org/downloads/debian <-- go to pool and look for the kernel and fglrx packages under "restricted"03:25
SonicYoothi just installed ubuntu for the first time - went very smoothly... :)03:25
_lemsx1_allan: the script i use to build debian kernels is: http://lems.kiskeyix.org/toolbox/?f=make-kpkg.sh03:25
SonicYooththough i'm starting to see that a lot of software im interested in is built for KDE.. so i guess i'm going to reformat and try kubuntu03:25
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_lemsx1_allan: i'm leaving for a few hours... bbl03:25
allanok, im out too03:26
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: cool03:26
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: i sec03:26
spyder89sonicyouth how did you install ubuntu03:26
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: it's 3 am here :P03:26
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filloyhanasaki: man/woman :p hhahahha :p the problem of internet03:26
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: is there anything else to it?03:26
hanasakifilloy  true that03:26
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: copy /boot/config* (your older config file) to /usr/src/linux-source-2.... and go there to do a: make oldconfig; make prepare03:26
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: just in case ;-)03:27
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SonicYoothspyder: i downloaded the iso (not the live cd version) and reformatted my laptop with it03:27
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: and that's it?03:27
filloyhanasaki: the other day i realised i talk to everyone on the net as if they were man...and thats obviously not true :P03:27
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shikamaru85_lemsx1_: tks!!03:27
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: that's it03:27
shikamaru85_lemsx1_: tks so much03:27
spyder89how do you reformat you laptop with it03:27
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: that leaves your kernel sources as if you compiled it by yourself ;-)03:27
spyder89does it just auto do it or what03:27
filloyhanaBRB: btw, im a man03:27
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_lemsx1_shikamaru85: no problem. go to sleep now ;-)03:27
_lemsx1_shikamaru85: bbl03:27
degageI'm new to ubuntu and trying to boot up the live cd with no result.  Anyone have an idea why  i cannot boot up from a cd?03:28
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SonicYoothspyder: well it let me reformat all my partitions into the proper sizes... it went very smoothly03:28
spyder89what os where you running before03:28
SonicYoothspyder: i decided to get rid of my XP partition as I wanna force myself to learn some linux03:28
filloydegage: please inform us more about that03:28
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filloySonicYooth: i wouldnt be so sure about that :S03:29
SonicYoothdegage: a lot of pc manufacturers make you hit a certain key to boot from CD03:29
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SonicYoothfilloy: so sure about what?03:29
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spyder89sonicyouth what is the best way to format03:29
filloySonicYooth: the XP partition thing :S03:29
degageI just downloaded the live cd iso file.  I burned into a cd and try to reboot but I do not get the ubuntu desktop.03:29
SonicYoothfilloy: oh its okay.. ive still got a whole other PC that runs XP.. so ive got backup03:30
SonicYoothspyder: not sure if I'm the best person to answer that question as I chose to get rid of my XP partition... depends on what you want to do03:30
filloySonicYooth: fiuf !!...i dont know when that day will come to me03:30
hanasakiwhat software ahs a gui and can be used to write to DVD+R DL03:30
sydhartHi. Has anyone suggested a nice GUI wrapper "install-latest <package-names>", which would do a 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install install $*' ?03:30
BigDaddyhey guys, I am finding out that even thought I have an AMD64 chip, I would probably enjoy it more if I could use more apps. So I am wanting to go to the 32bit version. Do I have to reinstall? Is there anyway to keep all the things I got working?03:30
filloyok, general question.....anyone here have used the new Xgl thing ?03:30
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hanasakihmm BigDaddy what doesnt work w/ the amd64 i was thinking of getting one03:31
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BigDaddyWine for one03:31
bur[n] erdegage: set you bios to boot from cd?03:31
hanasakiBigDaddy  wow.. crashes?03:31
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BigDaddyalso Automatix03:31
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BigDaddyno, it just won't compile for me03:32
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hanasakiBigDaddy i cant get the one porgram i want to work in wine.. so L:( on wine... works for everyone else thou lol03:32
wastrelhello - i rebooted recently & my cups is no longer working.  in /var/log/cups/error_log  it shows cups trying to connect to c0a8028b:631  which looks like an ipv6 address.... how do i turn this off & tell cups to use my ipv4 addresses?03:32
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hanasakiBigDaddy umm can u just run the 32 .deb package? i am not sure03:32
degageok guys i got some ideas. I'm ggoing back to try. thnaks!03:32
Madpilotgreetings Ubuntubians03:32
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SonicYoothhello madpilot03:32
BigDaddyI am just noticing that a lot of the cool things I want to try are problematic (or so I have read) with the AMD6403:32
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BigDaddyhanasaki - you have to set up something called chroot for it and it does not perform as well03:33
BigDaddyso I have read03:33
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MadpilotBigDaddy: you can run the 32bit version of Ubuntu on 64bit hardware03:33
hanasakii heard of using chroot for security no for 32/64 bit03:33
Brunelluswhere does evolution keep its old messages, and how would I go about migrating the backed-up emails from one box to another?03:34
BigDaddyMadpilot, I know I can, what I was wondering is do I have to reinstall the 32bit Ubuntu, or is it just a kernel?03:34
hanasakiMadpilot  can u use 32 bit packages in a 64 bit install?03:34
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hanasakiubuntu has a complete 64 bit insgtall?03:34
MadpilotBigDaddy & hanasaki: I'm running purely 32bit here, so I've got no idea - just know it's possible03:34
BigDaddyhanasaki - yes they have a 64bit nstall disk03:35
hanasakinice03:35
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hanasakiif i get the x2 64 bit i guess its ubuntu not debian on that box03:35
Travisthanks03:35
jbmagicdoes ubuntu use debian?03:35
BigDaddybut as I said, I am running into problems with it03:35
hanasakijbmagic  itis a fork03:35
BigDaddyI really need Wine if I am going to migrate away from WIndows03:35
hanasakiand contribs back to debian03:35
jbmagicoh i see03:36
BigDaddyMust have DVDShrink03:36
hanasakiBigDaddy  lol then u arent migrating away hehe03:36
jbmagicwhat easier guys to gentoo or Ubuntu?03:36
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BigDaddyhanasaki - I have not found anything under linux that will allow me to back up my DVD's03:36
hanasakijbmagic no clue. i never messed w/ gentoo..03:36
biovorejbmagic: gentoo is for l33t folks03:36
Madpilotjbmagic: Ubuntu can be installed and running in about 30min - how long would a compile/install of Gentoo take?03:36
wastrelhow do i disable ipv6 in the kernel ?03:36
irvinjbmagic: that would be a relative question03:36
hanasakiBigDaddy umm rip a raw iso?03:37
jbmagictrue i remember gentoo takign forever to install :)03:37
wastrelMadpilot:  there are binary installers for gentoo :] 03:37
BigDaddyI can tell you, Dora DVD's and Disney DVD's get beat up pretty bad03:37
gaspMadpilot:: about 3 days03:37
jbmagicis Ubuntu very clean once its install?03:37
kookaburragentoo isn't that leet. it's just linux with a freebsd like package system03:37
biovoreBigDaddy: is it encripted (like a video dvd)03:37
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BigDaddybiovore - yeah. They are commercial DVD's03:37
hanasakigasp  lol i hear that gentoo has a 386 full binary versin. no compiling03:37
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BigDaddybut legally paid for and owned by me03:37
ProfessorChaosanyone in here have a Bluetooth Microsoft IntelliMouse 2.0 with the Scroll Wheel working?03:37
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gasphanasaki:: yeah, it does, but that pretty much defeats the purpose of gentoo03:38
ProfessorChaosworking in X tha tis03:38
biovoreBigDaddy: dvdrip is one.. you you can use mplayer's mencoder to do it03:38
kookaburrait does. you don't have to compile *everything* hanasaki03:38
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biovoredvdrip needs transcode03:38
hanasakigasp i have heard gentoo guys say there is little benifit from a full native compile03:38
jbmagicdoes ubuntu leave any dependencies behind when you unistall an application?03:38
hanasakitranscode?03:38
hanasakijbmagic  run deborphan03:38
biovoregoogle it03:38
Toma-hanasaki, correct03:38
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gasphanasaki:: some things will run a lot faster, but overall it's really not worth all the hassle from what i've experienced03:38
hanasakiwhat is transcode?03:38
odlawhat's the version of xfce in xubuntu?03:39
biovorevideo codec conversion tool03:39
odlain dapper?03:39
biovorempeg to xivd03:39
hanasakigasp  umm so why run 64bit?03:39
jbmagicthanks03:39
gasphanasaki:: i give...........why?03:39
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wastrelanyone know how to disable ipv6 in the kernel?03:39
jbmagicso ubuntu very easy to install, it will walk me thru when i install it?03:39
hanasakibiovore so when /why do u convert from/to what w/ transcodee03:39
biovorehanasaki: 64bit is only benifital for people who do long floats03:39
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biovorehanasaki: DVD ripping03:39
Toma-wastrel, you can disable it thru modprobe03:39
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BigDaddyoh, and back to 64 to 32 migration. Is it a complete reinstall?03:40
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hanasakibiovore cant ya jsut rip the binary iso and burn it? i know little about this03:40
Toma-wastrel, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html03:40
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kookaburrajbmagic, it's a pretty straightforward install. so is debian sarge. just pick one and run with it.03:40
bimberi!info xfce4 dapper03:40
ubotuxfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.3 (dapper), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB03:40
wastrelToma-:  thx03:40
bimberiodla: ^^^^03:40
odlabimberi: thanks03:40
biovorehanasaki: dvd copy is another issue03:40
bimberiodla: yw :)03:40
hanasakibiovore explian please03:40
jbmagickookaburra thanks03:40
biovorehanasaki: you have to decript the dvd vobs then burn back to dvd03:41
hsmhi all03:41
gasphi03:41
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odlaanyone tried the live cd installer on flight 4?03:41
jbmagiconcce i get the .iso for ubuntu and install it , i wont need to download another .iso again when a new version of ubuntu comes out?03:41
hanasakibiovore wow.. why is that? why cant u just copy the encrypted vob.. whatever a vob is.. byte per byte03:41
kookaburraif i remember correctly I think ubuntu has an easier x-server setup though, if you don't have specs for your monitor03:41
Toma-odla, i would suspect that would include the latest small releases, eg 4.2.3.203:41
biovorehanasaki: because the DVD hardware won't let you03:41
Madpilotjbroome: no, you can dist-upgrade in place - basically download all the updated stuff & install it03:41
kookaburrajbmagic, that is correct.03:41
hanasakijbmagic  search for "apt-get dist-upgrade"03:42
jbmagickookaburra thanks03:42
odla!info dapper icewm03:42
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hanasakibiovore  dam! evne from linux?03:42
biovorehanasaki: you can try it..  cat /dev/dvd > myiso.iso03:42
odla!info icewm dapper03:42
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ubotuicewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.23-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 629 kB, Installed size: 1632 kB03:42
biovorehanasaki: you can if you hax your dvd rom03:42
Toma-!info fluxbox dapper03:42
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.14-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 801 kB, Installed size: 2828 kB03:42
hanasakibiovore  so in the end the video/audio is the same codec or new?  loose of quality?03:42
kookaburrait should be a relatively simple upgrade. "apt-get dist-upgrade"03:42
Toma-bout time it got 0.9.14!!!03:42
gasp!info openbox03:42
hanasakiha.. hax the dvdrom? how ;)03:42
ubotuopenbox: (standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.2-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 194 kB, Installed size: 920 kB03:42
weareallonehave a dell, ubuntu not recognizing onboard soundcard i think03:42
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hanasaki!info e1703:43
biovorehanasaki: most all video codecs are lossy.. meaning you compress.. and recompress and it gets worse03:43
odlasorry i didn't mean to start this non-sense and this bot abuse03:43
Toma-sif e17 is stable :(03:43
jbmagiconce you install the full ubuntu, are you able to delete what apps you dont want or not going to use?03:43
hanasakibiovore  crap.. so no way to have a lossless copy?03:43
crimsunodla: because we're in UVF.03:43
kookaburrayes03:43
biovorecrimsun: dvd's are lossy03:43
biovorempeg203:43
odlacrimsun: uvf?03:43
crimsunbiovore: -EMISADDRESS?03:43
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hanasakimpeg is lossy.. but how about a cpy that is no more lossy than the orig03:44
biovore(soory cimsun)03:44
crimsunodla: upstream version freeze03:44
odlacrimsun: really?03:44
odlacrimsun: so no xfce4.4 for dapper?03:44
biovorehanasaki: the origional is analog :-P03:44
crimsunodla: yes, we've been in UVF for nearly a month.03:44
kookaburrabut be advised jbmagic that some apps depend on other ones etc.03:44
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odlacrimsun: i didn't know that03:44
wearealloneis there a plugin or something that i can get that will run more soundcards?03:44
crimsunodla: possible.03:44
biovorehanasaki: well just don't recompress the file03:44
crimsunweareallone: clarify?03:44
hanasakiwhat can burn a DVD+R DL03:44
kookaburrajbmagic, what are you running now?03:45
jbmagicbut i tought ubuntu does a good job with dependencies, so you know what you can unistall?03:45
hanasakibiovore  hmm if i dont recompress.. it wont fit?03:45
Toma-xfce 4.4 is released?03:45
odlaToma-: no03:45
jbmagickookaburra newbie here. so i only have windows xp03:45
hanasakijbmagic  it does03:45
wearealloneno linux live or install has recognized my sound device03:45
biovorehanasaki: like dvd shrink on windows is lossy03:45
odlaToma-: but it should be released in by april03:45
TiG4Is there some sort of application that will take a screenshot of my desktop and upload it to an FTP://?03:45
hanasakibummer03:45
Toma-i c03:45
kookaburrait does do a good job, but like in windows you can't strip it completely. it will need a few things.03:45
biovorehanasaki: its a fact of life in most video03:45
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MadpilotTiG4: just press the Print Screen key - you'll have to handle the ftp part yourself03:46
kookaburrait can be quite light if you want it to be.03:46
weareallonehave a dell with onboard soundcard...03:46
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kookaburraya know?03:46
biovorehanasaki: I don't copy dvds.. I just rip to a xvid/ogg mkv file..03:46
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hanasakihmm how?03:46
crimsunweareallone: how old is the Dell?03:46
hanasaki;)03:46
odlacrimsun: if xubuntu dapper is released with xfce-4.2 will there be 4.4 packages made for dapper when it's released?03:46
biovoremencoder03:47
weareallonepentium iii...03:47
Delvienhey guys did they fix wine with the new Dapper update?03:47
crimsunodla: no.03:47
biovoremkvtools03:47
weareallone2000 probably03:47
kookaburrait will detail exactly what will be uninstalled so that you will know. and once it is uninstalled you can always put it back.03:47
hanasakibiovore  i just wanna use the DVD+R DL for data backup03:47
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biovorehanasaki: look at k3b then03:47
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LiteHeddedati please?03:48
LiteHedded!ati03:48
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358903:48
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LiteHeddedok cool03:48
hanasaki+R is only a dvd dl drive that reads? or i tcan write too?03:48
whatwhatTiG4 http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/page/4/03:48
biovorehanasaki: dl is still experimental at best03:48
TiG4whatwhat, I dont want to take a screenshot03:48
hanasakihmmm03:48
hanasakibummer again03:48
TiG4whatwhat, I want it to automatically take it and upload it03:48
Madpilothanasaki: AFAIK anything with R in it (CD or DVD) is writable03:48
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whatwhatTiG4 check the post Capture and Post Screenshots to a Website, Instantly  December 10, 200503:48
whatwhat they have a script to do this automatic03:48
hanasakibut does DVD+R DL  indidate the drive writes that or only reads?03:48
whatwhatdahhh03:48
TiG4ah ok03:49
whatwhatread it first03:49
whatwhatlol03:49
Madpilothanasaki: writes + reads, I'm guessing...03:49
kookaburrajbmagic, if you have fairly common hardware I'd bet your install would be pretty straight forward. how commited are you to making a switch?03:49
biovoreDL requires special media03:49
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biovorefor writing03:49
hanasakik03:49
hanasakithanks Madpilot03:49
setuidCan someone tell me how "ubuntu-server" differs from the other variants?03:49
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crimsunweareallone: pastebin lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer03:49
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Madpilotbiovore: DL = Dual Layer, I guess?03:49
hanasakiso DL is experimental? :(03:49
biovorergr madpilot03:49
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weareallonei wish i undstood, is that an upgrade?03:50
Madpilothanasaki: if it's Dual Layer, it's just new(er), not experimental03:50
biovorehanasaki: its a drive filmware hack at best03:50
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biovorenormal dvd+r drives can do it too..03:50
hanasakii am lost.. filmware?03:50
biovoreits all about the dvd drive its self03:50
Delvienhey guys did they fix wine with the new Dapper update?03:50
hanasakihmm so Madpilot  says not exper.. biovore says its exp and a hack... ?/03:50
kookaburradid you mean firmware?03:50
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wastrelanyone know why my cups daemon is trying to connect to ipv6 addresses (i've disabled ipv6)?  i can't print :[  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/903303:51
biovoreI don't trust DL yet03:51
biovoreok UT Ladder match.. bbl03:51
crimsunweareallone: it means: open a Terminal, and type the command string verbatim following pastebin03:51
Madpilothanasaki: I hadn't thought it was experimental, but maybe it is - I think my cd/dvd writer will burn DL03:51
crimsunweareallone: paste the results onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:51
hanasakii just got one from LG for 40$03:51
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biovorethe LG's will do it :-)  I got one..03:51
biovoreI have never done it though..03:52
hanasakiwhew03:52
gasp_my router is evil03:52
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wearealloneresults being, what u gave me in previous message?03:53
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LiteHeddedhow do I install the smp kernel?03:53
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hanasakicouldnt belive hte specs for only 40$  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682713606303:53
hanasakiRating + 4Rating + 4[13 reviews] 03:54
hanasakiAdd item to Cart03:54
hanasakiLG Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM, 5X DVD-RAM DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache E-IDE / ATAPI DVD Burner03:54
jbmagickookaburra i very commited to make the switch03:54
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hanasakianyting in gnome or plan X thats good like k3b?  i hate having all the kde stuff just to burn disks03:55
odlahanasaki: gnomebaker?03:55
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odlahanasaki: cdrecord?03:55
crimsunweareallone: output from the command I gave you, yes03:55
hanasakichekcing now.. i never heard o f gnomebaker03:55
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hanasakiodla need somethign w/ a gui.. its for some nongeeks03:55
odlahanasaki: gnomebaker03:56
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LiteHeddedhow do I install the SMP kernel??03:56
Madpilothanasaki: I've heard that the latest version of Gnomebaker is good - the one in Hoary did too many coasters for me, so I use k3b mostly03:56
weareallonethis is a thread that addresses my issue?03:56
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crimsunweareallone: ...?03:57
wastrelwh00t03:57
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odlaLiteHedded: apt-get install kernel-smp03:57
odlaLiteHedded: but replace kernel-smp with the actual name of the kernel smp package03:58
hanasakicooll i will try gnomebaker... the one in nautilus sucks03:58
hanasakiworse than the windows version it trys to be03:58
weareallonei went to paste bin and typed lspci -v..... for search, is that right?03:58
odlaLiteHedded: i can't tell you the name of the actual kernel package name cause i'm running debian03:59
kookaburrajbmagic, right now I am running a little emachine 2.6 celeron with full multimedia capabilities. dvd ripping etc. so it can be done. I just took it home and immediately partitioned the hard drive for linux and installed. it never even booted windows.03:59
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odlahanasaki: i like gnomebaker...it does everything k3b does03:59
kookaburraand I am not some leet user.03:59
hanasakikookaburra  u are my hearro ;)03:59
hanasakiodla  ! psych! cool03:59
kookaburranot even leet at all. just willing to experiment and try.03:59
gaspkookaburra:: you rock03:59
ProfessorChaosis Bluetooth kernel patch 2.6.15-mh2 patch part of the latest kernel in dapper?04:00
hanasaki"i took all the windows out of my house... its much brighter now"  you heard that quote from me here/first ;)04:00
kookaburrai have had to redo stuff just like when i first started mucking about with windows. but that is just part of the fun right?04:00
hanasakiright04:00
gaspkookaburra:: it's nice to know that you can do that on an emachine. i'm getting ready to install edubuntu on one for my kiddies04:00
wastreledubuntu eh04:01
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kookaburrait will run edubuntu better than it will run xp I bet.04:01
gaspuh huh04:01
gasps'my bet as well04:01
rusakk0hey04:01
gasphey04:02
luisitohey, I am amazed about the Novell Xgl project, it is terrific!!! MacOS and Vista are really in problems now.04:02
jbmagickookaburra ifi want to dual boot, i will need partion magic to partion my hd first before i install ubuntu?04:02
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rusakk0I am a newbie and I need to open a rar file but Ark says that unrar utility is not on my path.. what does it mean?04:02
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kookaburrathat's right. you need to create a space on your hard drive for it.04:02
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crimsunweareallone: no. Open a Terminal, type: lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer04:03
LiteHeddedhow do I restart X after ati install without rebooting?04:03
franky123rusakk0: it means you dont have the program to unzip it. you will need to get it.04:03
crimsunweareallone: then paste all the output onto the pastebin Web site04:03
spyder89someone please answer this ?04:03
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rusakk0how do i get it and what is it?04:03
Madpilotrusakk0: you'll have to install the rar package04:03
rusakk0i thought ark was supposed to be the thing for me04:03
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jbmagickookaburra you recommend just swap and space for ubuntu only when i partioned?04:03
Madpilotrusakk0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression04:03
randomtransithelp!! ubuntu broke!04:03
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spyder89why when i try to install ubuntu i get not bootable disk04:04
kookaburraand then you can setup your bootloader to recognize both os's04:04
gasprandomtransit:: define broke?04:04
ProfessorChaosis Bluetooth kernel patch 2.6.15-mh2 patch part of the latest kernel in dapper????????/04:04
kookaburrathat should be fine. you can create a home directory partition but that is not mandatory.04:04
Arcolehow an i setup a nic for a static ip in command line. i have looked all over forums and all i see is info on how to do it in gnome or kde?04:05
Arcole*can04:05
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spyder89hey anybody04:05
wastrelArcole:  man interfaces   edit your /etc/network interfaces file04:05
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wastrelArcole:  recommend you make a backup of the existing one before messing with it04:06
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spyder89why when i try to install ubuntu do i get the message not bootable disk04:06
christopher_spyder89, did you burn the disk yourself?04:06
randomtransiti think i messed up file ownerships somewhere04:06
spyder89yes04:06
Arcoledid that and it says "don't seem to be have all the variables for eth0/inet." just like that lol04:06
randomtransitsee, i run slackware 10.2 as well04:06
christopher_what speed did you use to burn the image?04:06
randomtransitjust installed it yesterday04:07
spyder89best04:07
spyder89i can read the files04:07
asterisk99Question: I installed ubuntu on a Pentium 4... yest the kernel is -386    is this right??????04:07
spyder89but it doesnt seem to have an auto run04:07
randomtransitand i was trying to access the partition i setup for my media files04:07
christopher_spyder89, is there a number speed like 12X, 16X. 24X etc...04:07
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mike1lo04:07
randomtransitit wouldn't let me...so i did a chown -R /mnt04:07
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LiteHedded!ati04:07
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:07
Toma-asterisk99, yeh, its the standard kernel that works on everything. installing a 686 kernel will make it go .02 of a second faster04:08
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kookaburrai386 is standard but you can change the kernel04:08
randomtransitnow when i boot ubuntu, it won't let me log in04:08
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randomtransitand the network wont come up04:08
gachhello04:08
spyder89yeah i can go up to 56x04:08
asterisk99Toma: What about Hyperthreading          (as opposed to Ridiculous Speed)04:08
mike1Hey my firefox and other apps have been crashing ever since I started using my Logitech wireless mouse any clue?04:08
gachanybody lnows where xorg 7 stores drivers files04:08
christopher_spyder89, if the iso is burned at too fast of a speed, it wont burn properly and can cause that to happen04:08
gach?04:08
weareallonethank u. how does this work?04:09
Toma-asterisk99, then, you may have a point.04:09
christopher_spyder89, try burning it at 4X04:09
spyder89question when you download the os what should you see in the file04:09
christopher_ISOS require a slow speed04:09
weareallonesorry, i am an annoying novice04:09
asterisk99Toma: (Hope u got my reference to Spaceballs The Movie)04:09
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Toma-asterisk99, yeh :P04:09
christopher_spyder89, you shouldnt have to open it... it should be a .iso and you burn that as is04:09
bimberiasterisk99: but what about ludicrous speed? :P04:09
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spyder89is ubuntu dvd size or cdr size04:10
mike1cdr04:10
christopher_to answer your question i think there maybe be a couple files and directories and their sub directories04:10
gasplol@bimberi04:10
randomtransitso can anyone help me?04:10
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donCan someone tell me the best repository?04:10
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supanekoHi!04:10
mike1or help me?  wireless mouse killing apps?04:10
smf_HI04:10
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kookaburrathe best as in how?04:10
spyder89see i am using a mac to burn the cd04:10
christopher_you can use CDR to burn any OS04:11
crimsunweareallone: have you pastebinned it yet?04:11
mike1I've had to burn the iso at 3x04:11
spyder89one disk or more04:11
kookaburrakilling your apps?04:11
mike1one disk04:11
mike1Yea ever since I started using the logitcech wireless mouse apps randomly crash04:11
christopher_DVD just fits more data and and has better quality but better utilized for video not plain data. unless you want to save alot of data..04:11
spyder89ok the file that i have when i put it into the program to burn it comes up much larger that one cdr04:12
LiteHeddedhow do I restart X?04:12
christopher_spyder89, ubuntu is one disc04:12
mike1dmesg | tail shows nothing04:12
Toma-LiteHedded, ctrl-alt-backspace04:12
spyder89thats what i thought04:12
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LiteHeddeddoesn't work on my laptop04:12
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bimberiLiteHedded: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart04:12
fabsolii ae galera04:12
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gaspLiteHedded:: alt+ctrl+backspace04:12
supanekoHmmm... Can I really try to get some help in here?04:12
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Jeffraehi04:12
LiteHeddedinvoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/gdm not found.04:12
Jeffraehow do I start mode2?04:12
spyder89i will try again and see what happens04:12
gaspLiteHedded:: alt+ctrl+backspace04:13
kookaburrareconfigure xorg maybe mike1? I remember it having information concerning mice setups.04:13
fabsolihey wasup?04:13
LiteHeddedgasp that doesn't work for me04:13
supaneko;) WELL... I'll ask 'n keep tryin' with the Google searches.04:13
christopher_spyder89, make sure to check the integrity of the cd and i believe the MD5SUM value04:13
Jeffraeanyone using lirc?04:13
bimberiLiteHedded: what display manager do you use?  kdm? xdm?04:13
mike1xorg in configured already, folling a number of forums and googles searches04:13
fabsolicould anybody help me with a video resolution problem?04:14
mike1sure04:14
La_PaRCaHey kids. What is a good Python IDE?04:14
mike1what's the problem04:14
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wearealloneyes i did04:14
fabsoliwide screen is not ok04:14
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wearealloneyes i did04:14
erikKDM/GDM are equal- basically they are just the login screens. Kdm = kde's and Gdm = gnomes. I like KDM myself..04:14
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Deanodriverhi04:15
mesaboogie1heya04:15
mike1fabsoli -- do you have the monitors specs refresh rate and max resolution?04:15
Deanodriverhow are you?04:15
weareallonecrimsun: yes i did that04:15
crimsunweareallone: URL?04:15
smf_what is the equivalent to the task manager with Linux Ubuntu?04:15
mesaboogie1cool, how'bout u?04:15
fabsolii was seen xorg but there are the resolution what i want.....04:15
RedRosei have vsftpd installed, but no one can connect to me for browser FTP, why?04:15
Deanodriveryeah, not too bad :)04:15
kookaburrasmf_, that would be the "system monitor"04:15
Deanodriverjust bought a new monitor, i'm trying to find out how to set it up properly in ubuntu :)04:15
weareallonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/903504:15
mike1for the monitors: google the refresh rate and resolution04:16
smf_the system monitor? Thank you. I am new 3 days :)04:16
Deanodriverit's an LCD :P04:16
mike1then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file04:16
mesaboogie1nice1 bro04:16
Deanodriverok04:16
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mike1in the xorg.conf file you'll have to add the refresh rate and resolutions04:16
fabsolimikel, may i pvt?04:16
kookaburragoogle is such a verb anymore04:16
mike1sure04:16
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RedRosei have vsftpd installed, but no one can connect to me for browser FTP, why? and how can i fix it04:17
crimsunweareallone: what model Dell is it?04:17
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Deanodriverthanks04:17
Deanodrivernow to find them out04:17
wearealloneoptiplex gx104:18
weareallone...? is that it?04:18
malikyoanyone know where a person can download filter/effects for Gimp?04:18
luisitogoogle04:18
crimsunweareallone: is that on the cover?04:18
mesaboogie1intitle:"index of"  ?04:18
smf_any one an Opera user who has succesfuly install the Java Virtual Machine to view Java applets on websites? That installation has eluded me. Have tried 3 times. Anyone?04:19
wearealloneyeah...04:19
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crimsunweareallone: sudo modprobe snd-cs423704:19
mesaboogie1smf_:  did you do it the gui way? (through opera)04:20
weareallonethis is a package?04:20
mike1fabsoli did you recieve my requesr04:20
XenguyI want to mount /dev/cdrom, but keep getting an error: /dev/fd0 doesn't exist -- how can I get /dev/fd0 ?  Do I need to re-create it?04:20
Xenguysorry04:20
XenguyI want to mount /dev/fd004:20
crimsunweareallone: type that at the console04:21
Xenguyor does it mean the hardware is not being detected04:21
Xenguy?04:21
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Deanodriverhow do I edit it with a GUI or console wizard (xf86config's newer equivalent?)04:21
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fabsolimikel, are you seen my pvt? (this question is because i just star irc on linux now ;)04:21
La_PaRCaWhere are the logs for this channel kept?04:22
rusakk0i really have no idea what to do here.. I try reading the instructions but since this is the first time I use linux..04:22
christopher_hello, whats the command in terminal to install a .run file?04:22
smf_I had to download a .deb file and then run some codes in my terminal then they talked about reconfiguring my repos04:22
Xenguysmf_: sudo ./filename  ?04:22
mike1fabsoli, I sent the DCC offer to you04:22
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smf_hold....04:22
smf_plz04:22
weareallonecrimsun: not found04:22
Deanodriverwait, found specs on it :)04:22
amphiDeanodriver: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:22
fabsolino04:23
cooldaddydoofsmf_ sorry I use firefox04:23
cooldaddydoofrusakk0 what is the problem04:23
Deanodriverthanks :)04:23
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mesaboogie1smf_:  trudat04:23
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crimsunweareallone: which lspnp04:23
smf_jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin04:23
weareallone...?04:23
rusakk0https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression04:23
Xenguysmf_: java stuff?  I guess you need a java environment of course04:23
rusakk0I am trying to get rar files opened and I read what to do there but it tells me nothing04:24
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smf_I am doing something wrong but the instructions are more geared towards an other version of ubuntu04:24
crimsunweareallone: type that in the console.04:24
smf_I guess I can always use Firefox04:24
rusakk0what does it mean that I need to create a symbolic link etc04:24
smf_and avoid further headaches04:24
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fabsolicool: if you gave runnable rigths to the file is just like xenguy said04:24
Xenguysmf_: FF is a good choice :-)04:24
fabsolicool: if you gave runnable rigths to the file is just like xenguy said04:24
fabsoli.04:24
smf_Since Opera is not an open source04:24
weareallonesorry, did that and have prompt again04:24
smf_I guess I can kick it to the curb04:25
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fabsoliops04:25
Cainushey...anyone know how to get *write* access to a linux samba share from windows?  all I can do is read...04:25
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weareallone..after saying /sbin/lspnp04:25
crimsunweareallone: did you get any output?04:25
Cainusi'm thinking chmod 777 on my home dir might be overkill04:25
weareallonecrimsun: sorry, refer to above ure last msg04:25
XenguyAnyway, anyone know why I have no floppy device /dev/fd0  ?04:25
crimsunweareallone: I read that. I want to know if you got any output.04:26
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wearealloneguess not04:26
smf_Nothing wrong with Firefox. I am just so used to using Opera but I did use firefox before when i was using windows except I go plug in happy :)04:26
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Xenguysmf_: give up Opera; it's really just a bad habit ;-)04:26
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Madpilotsmf_: Java works in Opera (at least in Breezy...)04:27
mike1fabsoli email me mjgreenwood@gmail.com04:27
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smf_Hey Xen I gave windows after 3 days of using ubuntu so I can surely give up Opera:)04:27
mike1my nick isn't regestered04:27
mesaboogie1and it slows ryt down,.. i know04:27
Xenguysmf_: as long as it works, that's my motto04:27
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disasmtrying to get XDMCP/gdm/vnc/(x)inetd I've tried the tutorial that talks about xinetd and tried doing it with plain inetd, but I can't get it to listen to the port, this is dapper, any suggestions?04:27
smf_true true04:27
mesaboogie1haha, good one04:27
fabsolimikel, do you use skype???04:28
CanYouHelpMePlzwhat exactly is plan9 ?04:28
smf_thanks for your time guys.04:28
XenguyCanYouHelpMePlz: a different operating system04:28
smf_is skype free and does it have voice chat?04:28
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: plan9.bell-labs.com04:28
CanYouHelpMePlzXenguy: is it a unix, a linux or what04:28
jbmagicwhat apps comes with ubuntu when you do the full install?04:28
Xenguysmf_: I don't believe it is free as in freedom04:28
XenguyCanYouHelpMePlz: unix related, but wikipedia knows best04:29
smf_So no voice with Linux to Windows?04:29
weareallonecrimsun: no output04:29
Xenguysmf_: dunno04:29
mike1fabsoli<  I have it installed but never used it (yahoo account for gaim is mikeandadina@yahoo.com04:29
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: I think the papers at the Labs site would be better than wikipedia04:29
crimsunweareallone: do you have "Plug n' Play OS" enabled in BIOS?04:29
smf_My girl friend is mad because I dumped my windows XP and now we have no voice chat04:29
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mesaboogie1smf_:  you can check this too (breezy, are you not using breezy?) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/java&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/java%26num%3D75%26hl%3Den%26hs%3D4cN%26lr%3D%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den04:29
CanYouHelpMePlzI have an amd 700mhz with 128 ram, i think the dvd-rom drive is broken, how do i get ubuntu on that machine ?04:30
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: it runs nicely under qemu if you want to play with it04:30
jbmagicwhat some good apps you guys recommend to get after ubuntu is installed?04:30
smf_I am using breezy yes new version04:30
mesaboogie1skypes free (enough)04:30
smf_ok looking04:30
smf_ty04:30
XenguyCanYouHelpMePlz: look on the Install wiki page for something like 'network install'04:30
gaspyikes culture shock04:30
gaspi just installed fluxbox04:30
CanYouHelpMePlz!networkinstall04:30
ubotuInstall without a cdrom, recommended for people with broadband https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot04:30
Xenguygasp: minimalist :-)04:30
smf_do I need a phone line for skype? Cus I only gots cable no phone line LMAO04:30
weareallonenot sure, i'll come back fter i check, u still gonna be here?04:30
mike1fabsoli what's your skype number?04:31
disasmgasp: it's much better isn't it :-D04:31
amphigasp: nice, altough I prefer openbox, personally04:31
gaspXenguy:: i was using window maker04:31
mesaboogie1gasp, cool!04:31
crimsunweareallone: yes. ping me when you return.04:31
weareallonethx a lot04:31
Xenguygasp: I used that for a long time - I liked it04:31
bimberismf_: http://www.skype.com04:31
smf_ok L@@king04:31
gaspi've been using window maker for years, but i'm tired of the lack of progress it's making04:31
smf_ty04:31
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jbmagicwhat the best dvd ripping to use? and best cd ripping to use?04:31
CanYouHelpMePlzXenguy: so  all i need for that pc is a network card? and i can install ubuntu on it?04:31
disasmsmf_: what about voip, would something like that work? I know there are voip clients for windows, and one of my clients had someone set him up a debian linux box to act as a voip server (using asterisk i think)04:32
Xenguygasp: I use gnome on fast hardware, and xfce on slower boxen these days04:32
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bimberi!xorg04:32
uboturumour has it, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:32
smf_I will keep voip in mind as I know nothing about it04:32
XenguyCanYouHelpMePlz: I have no idea since I've never tried it, but it sounds plausible.  Read the web page instructions carefully :-)04:32
mesaboogie1(i don't know windowmaker) it looks beautiful >at least the asian's desktops do!04:32
smf_but I will search high and low04:32
smf_ty04:32
bimberiOber: ^^^^04:32
TiG4How would I recursively delete everything within a directory without deleting the directory04:32
Oberi see04:33
disasmTiG4: rm -r /path/to/directory/*04:33
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Oberthanks04:33
intelikeyTiG4 rm -Rf /dir/*04:33
TiG4thanks04:33
XenguyTiG4: rm -rf dir/*   ? (nottested!)04:33
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TiG4hehe wow thanks04:33
jbmagicany way to instal ubuntu without all the apps that come with it? this way you can install later what you want and use04:33
gaspXenguy:: i like gnome on speedy hardware, but xfce just isn't quite my taste04:33
disasmjbmagic: server04:33
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moonunitjbmagic, server install04:33
Mordofw00t! im on dapper drake :D04:34
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Xenguygasp: I didn't really like it the first couple of times I looked at it, but it grew on me -- it's acutally not badly designed at all04:34
jbmagicdisasm so download the server install.. is it easy to install for a newbie?04:34
CanYouHelpMePlzi love xfce :-)04:34
smf_disas. Voip looks good :)04:34
gaspXenguy:: i agree, it's got a nice design........i've actually set that up for my kids to use on this box04:34
WiFiTuxis it me or someone broke nm-applet on Dapper?04:35
mesaboogie1:)04:35
gaspto me it's just funny looking though04:35
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: gnome is heavy for 128mb ram04:35
Xenguygasp: it's snappy fast, and minimalist but I can get my work done fast04:35
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: yea i don't have that pc set-up yet, but it will be running xfce or maybe no gui at all.04:35
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: i  need to buy a network card04:35
luisitohow a googlekey works?04:35
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9036 can someone check that out and tell me what it means?04:35
CanYouHelpMePlzthe dvd-rom on that pc is hosed04:35
Obernow gdm wont start :D04:35
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: realtek 8139 is damn cheap, and works04:35
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: how cheap04:35
gaspXenguy:: that's one of the things i like about wmaker04:35
Xenguygasp: it's based on the tradition unix 'cde' desktop BTW04:36
Xenguygasp: er, traditional*04:36
fabsolimikel: my nickname is fabsoli04:36
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: where are you?04:36
mesaboogie1i like the fact that fluxbox has such a cool homepage/guide and lots and lots of hotkeys04:36
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: US04:36
disasmjbmagic: not too bad if you understand apt-get commands04:36
spyder89christopher you there04:36
gaspXenguy:: i loathe cde.........had to use it when i was in the military and it was just a horrible experience04:36
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amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: dunno, USD5 maybe, 10 max I'd have thought04:36
Xenguygasp: hehe04:36
jbmagicdisasm so server install, i need to be onlien when its installing?04:36
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: from where..?04:36
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Xenguygasp: solarix or hp ?04:36
morph_hi all04:36
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gaspXenguy:: both04:37
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: dunno, I'm not in .us04:37
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: but 8139 pci cards are dirt cheap04:37
Xenguygasp: I used it for awhile in a unix shop some years back04:37
intelikeyTiG4 also of note, that will not get hiden files and dirs.    more specificly  use rm -Rf dir/`ls -A1`    if you really want to get everything.04:37
morph_i'd like to know the name of the unstable brach of ubuntu04:37
RememberPOLDoes anybody know how to run hardware acceleration on a Geforce Go 7800 GTX?04:37
MadpilotCanYouHelpMePlz: any computer store should be able to sell you a network card04:37
disasmmesaboogie1: i went from kde1 -> wmaker -> flux -> xfce -> flux -> gnome -> flux with many other less known wm's in the middle, I just haven't found anything that can compare to flux ;-)04:37
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Xenguymorph_: dapper04:37
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: i wonder if the xbox NIC is compatible04:37
mesaboogie1heya morph_04:37
_jasonmorph_: the development version is dapper, there is no 'unstable'04:37
morph_tnx :D04:37
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CanYouHelpMePlzMadpilot: yea i just want a dirt cheap one04:37
mesaboogie1disasm: heh04:38
intelikeyTiG4 or without dir/  but cd into the dir first....04:38
morph_i'd like to test it04:38
gaspXenguy:: yeah there was a bunch of us that used to regularly annoy the admins by changing various things that they didn't think we should be able to change in CDE04:38
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: no idea - rip it out and see what lscpi has to say about it - MS WinEthernet perhaps ;)04:38
mesaboogie1cool"04:38
morph_it's hard?04:38
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: lol04:38
amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: a softNIC ;)04:38
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Xenguygasp: admins: some are with you, and some are agin ya ;-)04:38
IdleOnewhats the command to clear the terminal?04:38
gaspXenguy:: yup04:38
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CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: what is softNIC04:38
mesaboogie1can gnome and firefox make hotkeys like opera and flux can? guys04:38
gaspXenguy:: they were annoyed with us for knowing as much if not more than they did04:38
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amphiCanYouHelpMePlz: a winmodem equiv I just made up04:38
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disasmIdleOne: clear04:39
IdleOneheh04:39
CanYouHelpMePlzamphi: ahh i see04:39
IdleOnethanks04:39
gaspok, so why isn't the style i installed showing up in the menu04:39
gasp*grumble*04:39
Xenguygasp: that's a tough place to be for a sysadmin, but there's always a few power users out there04:39
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9036 can someone check that out and tell me what it means?04:39
mesaboogie1kikt!04:39
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digihey just wanted to know how much space does ubuntu takes with minimal instalation + GNOME04:39
jbmagicserver install, i need to be online when its installing?04:40
CanYouHelpMePlzjbmagic: no04:40
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CanYouHelpMePlzjbmagic: it has no gui, if it's a desktop don't use that install04:40
jbmagicok04:40
Xenguydigi: don't quote me, but something like 3.5-4.5 Gb ??04:40
digireally?!04:40
Xenguydigi: it's documented somewhere04:40
gaspXenguy:: yeah they loved us..........they wouldn't admit it, but we really did make their lives easier when it came down to it04:40
Xenguydigi: how much room you got?04:40
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intelikeydigi about 500m  but i doubt you really mean minimal+'nome   so more like the default is 1.7g04:41
cybliviousanybody knows of an RSS reader with newspaper view/layout?04:41
digi1.5gb04:41
spyder89xenguy why when i try to install ubuntu it give me error "crc error"04:41
Xenguydigi: do you need X?04:41
Oberhmm firegl drivers dont match the xorg installed....04:41
Xenguyspyder89: sounds like a bad CD?04:41
intelikeyyeah 1.5~9  some where in there.   about 1.704:42
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spyder89bad cd or bad cdrom04:42
Oberman this does not even work even though the package comes with ubuntu...04:42
Oberoh well04:42
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shortjolliohow come i cant write to my usr folder?04:42
weareallonecrimsun: no options for that in bios, but i did not have to install anything for my dvd drive04:43
intelikeydigi i don't have x but this is not a minimalest install either and note "/dev/hda2               360655    282648     78007  79% / "04:43
Xenguyshortjollio: permissions issue most likely04:43
_jasonshortjollio: because root owns it04:43
crimsunweareallone: dpkg -l pcmcia-cs|grep ^ii04:43
digiso.04:43
digi~700mb w/o x /04:43
digi?04:43
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smf_Out.......Peace \/04:44
intelikeydigi that is a 360m partition ^  with 78m free   that's my whole system.04:44
_jasonshortjollio: you shouldn't need to write to /usr, but if you really believe you do, use sudo04:44
shortjolliowell how do i make it so i can04:44
digioh04:44
_jasonubotu: tell shortjollio about sudo04:44
digisounds nice04:44
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shortjollio_jason i know about sudo but is there a way to do it without going into th terminal04:44
_jasonshortjollio: what are you trying to do exactly?04:45
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asymmetryshortjollio, didnt know the terminal was such a bad thing04:45
digii just want a ubuntu machine at home for my guests since it looks rather easy to use04:45
wearealloneno packages found04:45
shortjollio_jason, i downloaded some new brushes for gimp and id like to put them in the brush folder04:45
digi333mhz 160mb ram 1.5gb04:45
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_jasonshortjollio: put them in ~/.gimp-2.2/brushes/04:46
asymmetryi guess running ubuntu on a p4 2.8 1gb ram 80gb hdd is overkill...04:46
shortjollio_jason, how?04:46
zebraFusionCan anyone recommend a good ftp server to go along with an apache install?04:46
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_jasonshortjollio: open nautilus and navigate to .gimp-2.2/brushes in your $HOME, then copy and paste04:46
biovorezebraFusion: proftpd04:47
intelikeydigi if you are really talking minimalest + gnome .  like i said 500m     i have installed ubuntu 5.4 on 190m partition   but you can't use the installer for that...          and yes if you make a single partition of that 1.5 you might be able to let it install 'default'04:47
WiFiTuxanyone here on dapper with network-manager installed?04:47
biovoreor wu-ftpd04:47
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jbmagicis there a list to show what apps comes wioth ubuntu when you install it?04:47
_jasonshortjollio: you'll need to show hidden folders (press ctrl+h)04:47
digiok ill just try and see04:47
digibest way to learn04:47
digiahhe04:47
intelikeyindeed04:48
shortjollio_jason, ok thx, that works04:48
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digity04:48
Xenguyjbmagic: use 'synaptic', or do 'dpkg -l * |less'04:48
intelikeynp04:48
zebraFusionbiovore, is that a popular release?04:48
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kookaburrajbmagic, surf this link:  http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu04:48
intelikeywhy the asterisk in that Xenguy ?04:48
fabsolithank you guys see ya04:48
jbmagicXenguy i mean before i isntall full ubuntu04:48
digigood night to all of you and thanks again04:48
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LordMelkorhow can i get realplayer to play embedded realvideo?04:48
LordMelkor(in firefox)04:49
Madpilotjbmagic: that'll be a pretty long list, there's thousands of apps available (not all installed by default, of course!)04:49
mattwestmhow do you burn an iso in linux?04:49
weareallonecrimsun: no packages found04:49
crimsunweareallone: sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs04:49
Xenguyjbmagic: there's gonna be like 10's of thousands of lines in that list ;-)04:49
Xenguyintelikey: redundant?04:49
intelikeyyeah04:49
WiFiTuxLordMelkor: enable multiverse and use apt-cache searc04:49
Xenguyahh04:49
WiFiTuxh04:49
_jasonubotu: tell mattwestm about iso04:49
LordMelkorwifitux: search for what?04:49
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CanYouHelpMePlz!bin04:50
ubotuCanYouHelpMePlz: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:50
jbmagicseems like default of ubuntu only has GNOME Office, OpenOffice. i really hope there not too many. i just like to have what i use only04:50
Madpilotmattwestm: in Ubuntu, just find your ISO in the file manager and right-click on it, select "Burn To Disc" - done04:50
CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i install a .bin ?04:50
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_jasonCanYouHelpMePlz: what are you trying to install?04:50
weareallonecrimson: all values 004:50
Madpilotjbmagic: OpenOffice is default04:50
mattwestmis there a command line version?04:50
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intelikeyCanYouHelpMePlz sh file.bin04:50
CanYouHelpMePlz_jason: a newer version of xfce04:50
CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: thanks!04:50
Aragorn_Guardiani need help with my external cd04:50
crimsunweareallone: ?04:50
jbmagicso ubuntu is pretty clean when you install the default..you not goign to get alot of junk apps?04:50
Aragorn_Guardianis usb, and ubuntu dint recognizes it...04:50
CanYouHelpMePlzjbmagic: nope04:50
weareallonecrimsun: already newest version04:50
jbmagicnice04:50
Xenguyjbmagic: you want the 'server' install I think04:51
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shortjollio_jason, i dont see the new brushes tho when i use gimp04:51
Madpilotjbmagic: that depends on your own def'n of "junk apps"...04:51
jbmagicserver install has no gui i hear04:51
crimsunweareallone: does ``pnpdump'' return anything?04:51
_jasonshortjollio: did you close gimp and start it up again04:51
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intelikeyjbmagic depends on your deffinition of 'junk apps'04:51
Xenguyjbmagic: yes, were you the one who was short of space?04:51
jbmagicjunk apps= apps that i am not going to use04:51
jbmagicXenguy no04:51
Xenguyjbmagic: OK, nm then04:51
LordMelkorhow can i get realplayer to play embedded realvideo? (for firefox)04:51
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shortjollio_jason, yes04:51
Madpilotjbmagic: the whole standard install of Ubuntu is ~1.8Gb, just so you know04:52
LordMelkorright now mplayer is taking over, and it doesnt work right04:52
weareallonecrimsun: nope04:52
jbmagicso ubuntu installs alot of apps for default?  i hope it will be easy to remove if i dont want04:52
kookaburrajbmagic, that is up to your opinion. the entire install is only one cd. it isn't THAT huge compared to wondows xp.04:52
axisysanyone know of a good calendar app that I can use with my work imap/exchange server ... or some app to fetch the calendar? i am keep missing my schedule meetings04:52
shortjollio_jason, i went to where it shows the brushes and they werent there04:52
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Madpilotjbmagic: and that includes OpenOffice, Firefox, the GIMP, etc04:52
intelikeyMadpilot is that breezy ?04:52
_jasonshortjollio: let me try, link me to a random brush please?04:52
weareallonepnpdump04:52
kookaburrawindows even04:52
Madpilotintelikey: the installed size? yes04:52
Xenguyaxisys: I use evolution (with kalarm too)04:52
intelikeyyeah04:52
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intelikeyit continues to grow...04:53
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intelikey1.7 hoary04:53
axisysXenguy: how do u like it?04:53
Xenguyaxisys: that's a LookOut'ish email app04:53
shortjolliohttp://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24531489/04:53
Madpilotintelikey: any idea what the basic install of Dapper is going to be?04:53
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Xenguyaxisys: it's buggy but it's good enough, will probably get better, and it's all I have right now :-)04:53
intelikeyno i don't.04:53
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Peteresquehi04:53
axisysso when u have a schedule meeting in calendar does it pop up in time?04:53
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kookaburraif you want a small os just install Damn Small Linux04:53
jmlwhere's the best place to go for up-to-date information on running Ubuntu on a powerbook?04:53
kookaburrahttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=damnsmall04:53
Xenguyaxisys: I just find it slow too, so it takes patience, but it does the job04:54
shortjollio_jason, wait i got it to work04:54
intelikeylooking like about 1.85 1.9  but that changes.....04:54
LordMelkorthe damnsmall window manager is ugly04:54
_jasonshortjollio: ok04:54
weareallonecrimsun:nuthin04:54
LordMelkorgood for data recovery tho04:54
Xenguyaxisys: the pop-up doesn't work for me ATM, so I use kalarm each day to set pop-up alarms04:54
axisysfor email i am using mutt to read the exchange imap files.. just the calendar functionality is missing04:54
kookaburrafluxbox is pretty sparse04:54
shortjollio_jason, i need to extract it to home folder and then cut and paste it to the brush folder, instead of just eaxtracting to brush04:54
weareallonecrimsun: nadda04:54
shortjollio_jason, thx a lot man04:54
_jasonshortjollio: np04:54
crimsunweareallone: is there anything in bios about specific resources to allocate to your sound chipset?04:55
FearMothI want to install the kernel sources in Ubuntu 5.10 .. uname -r tells me my kernel version is 2.6.12-10-k7, but the closest match for kernel sources in synaptic is kernel-source-2.6.11 ... where can I find the kernel sources that match my kernel version?04:55
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Xenguyaxisys: I just wanted something that could do Exchange on linux - evolution is one option that works04:55
weareallonecrimsun: no04:55
unk468hello , i just installed an ubunt00 as a "server" (when i booted from cd) How can i make these things: -configure the internet (not dhcp, but static) how can i change the asking level of sistem (ask lot of things/medium/or just what coud breake sistem) how can i use a http://proxy ? how can I install the X interface very "custom" (i don`t neet all tha funky stuff from gnome)?04:55
sizzamanyone successfully using the gnome-clipboard-daemon04:56
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Lazis flight 3 the newest version04:56
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crimsunno, Flight 4 is out04:56
axisysanyone else have a solution for exchange calendar? i will check out kalarm that Xenguy uses04:56
Lazshit04:56
smf_back :)04:56
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asterisk99How can I have a server program like Asterisk run on bootup?04:56
gachok04:56
kookaburrawow unk468 try not to ask everything all at once man. that is one heck of a laundry list04:56
gachi need help04:56
gasphi laz04:56
Peteresquedoes ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth04:56
unk468uh how can i enable the root account i hate sudo04:56
gachwith XGL04:57
axisys!exchange04:57
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys04:57
crimsunweareallone: does ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 isapnp=0'' work?04:57
gachanybody?04:57
Xenguyaxisys: I just assume that the evolution pop-ups will be fixed eventually04:57
axisys!calendar04:57
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys04:57
Lazhi gasp04:57
Peteresquedoes ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth04:57
httpdssdoes anyone know how to change the bitrate of an ogg vorbis ??? (from 192 to 128)04:57
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kookaburraoh my gosh. you *want* to run as root unk468!?04:57
unk468kookaburra :)04:57
smf_Can some one plz tell me where ubuntu keeps the downloaded files from FrostWire when they are done downloading?04:57
axisysXenguy: i am sure soon it will04:57
wearealloneami supposed to be includding ''?04:57
Lazpeter it does experimentally :P04:57
crimsunweareallone: no04:57
Peteresquedoes ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth04:57
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kookaburrayeah, that is pretty smart. make sure you enable every possible service too.04:57
linux_user400354I am trying to download jdk5.0 for linux using wget -c. wget complains the filename is too long. I think wget is trying to name the file with the entire url of the file. how can i fix this?04:57
sinaduelIs there voice recognition software for linux?04:57
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FearMothI want to install the kernel sources in Ubuntu 5.10 .. uname -r tells me my kernel version is 2.6.12-10-k7, but the closest match for kernel sources in synaptic is kernel-source-2.6.11 ... where can I find the kernel sources that match my kernel version?04:58
CanYouHelpMePlzwhat is the name of the xpixmaps?04:58
kookaburraenable remote logins... the works. and stay as root at all times04:58
CanYouHelpMePlzfor apt-get install04:58
LazPeteresque: Yes but experimentally04:58
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kookaburramy gosh. you are right unk468! sudo sucks. *I* should run as root at all times too.04:59
weareallonecrimsun: got nuthin04:59
Madpilotkookaburra: stop giving such "good" advice :P04:59
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unk468ok, then first how the internet can be enabled ? is the first distro witch tells me that i have dhcp, but i hav static...04:59
intelikeyunk468 you asked a lot and i will only address two of the questions for now.  1 level of sistem questions dpkg-reconfigure dpkg  and choose high   for only the highest priority questions   or low for all the possable questions   2 installing just x  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg04:59
gasplol04:59
dabaRLaz: on what release?04:59
gaspsduo is kinda nice04:59
unk468no i like su -04:59
themachinewhat music player can play wma?04:59
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themachineor is there possibly a converter?04:59
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LazdabaR: dapper04:59
Madpilotthemachine: install the w32codecs, and Totem or nearly anything can04:59
crimsunweareallone: elaborate. Do you get an error, or do you just get the prompt back immediately?04:59
Madpilot!tell themachine about w32codecs04:59
dabaRLaz: coolio05:00
wearealloneprompt05:00
BmurFew questions: Is Dapper going to retain the brown theme?  I don't necessarily care too much, but I know that other people do.  Will Gnome 2.14 be able to change file permissions recursively from the GUI?  How much of a performance increase are we going to see with Dapper (vs. 5.10)?05:00
JeffraeHI anyone usin LIRC?05:00
crimsunweareallone: cat /proc/asound/cards05:00
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LazdabaR but it takes a lot of work to make it work :)05:00
weareallonecat /proc/asound/cards05:00
weareallonedoh05:00
cherylhi can ne one tell me the msn messenger equivalent to dl please?05:00
dabaRLaz: pah05:00
intelikeyunk468 sorry debconf not dpkg       'what was i thinking'05:00
IdleOnecheryl:  amsn05:00
MadpilotBmur: brown - yes, AFAIK. recursive from GUI - no idea, but it would be nice. preformance increase - probably, Breezy is faster here than Hoary was :P05:00
IdleOne!amsn05:00
uboturumour has it, amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net05:00
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kookaburra!tell unk468 about root05:01
phillipcwhat package can I get intltoolize from?05:01
cherylthanks :)05:01
BmurMadpilot: K, thanks.05:01
weareallonecrimsun: 0 [CS4236B        ] : CS4236B - CS4236B05:01
weareallone                     CS4236B at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&305:01
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wastrelBmur:  wouldn't be too hard to write a script to fix the theme05:01
crimsunweareallone: now adjust the volumes using alsamixer ('m' to unmute)05:01
dougemdhas anyone here used sane?05:01
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dabaRLaz: is the work documented anywhere?05:02
LiteHedded!samba05:02
ubotuI guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:02
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CanYouHelpMePlzwhere should i put a .so file05:02
CanYouHelpMePlzon my pc, like where is the best spot05:02
dougemdI'm brand new to ubuntu and the package manager the latest build of sane says it recongnizes my printer05:02
dougemdbut the verison I have with my unbuntu install doesn't05:02
LazdabaR: i can find it for you :)05:02
phillipcphilc: intltool05:02
weareallonethank you thank you thank you05:02
overriderhello, does anyone know of a free viewer for autocad drawings such as .dwg and .dxf ?05:02
intelikeyunk468 as to dhcp -vs- static ip's   i don't do networking or windows.  sorry.05:02
dabaRLaz: heh05:02
CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: where do i put a .so file05:02
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BmurWastrel: Well, I change it for myself.  ...but brown really isn't a very great default.05:03
AMDXPHi there has anyone sucessfully setup MythTV on ATI Wonder card05:03
hatake_kakashiunk468: you can set it to static config via System > Administration > Networking05:03
crimsunweareallone: now, to make sure it works on next boot, you need to type the following at the console: echo "options snd-cs4236 isapnp=0" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/snd-cs423605:03
asterisk99where can I find documentation on how to set up a program to run after boot-up?05:03
MadpilotBmur: well, it's not blue, or that horribly plastic default XP theme :P05:03
intelikeyCanYouHelpMePlz hehhe for what ?    ( but probably in /lib  or maybe  /usr/lib  or even /var/lib )05:03
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CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: for x pix maps05:03
Jeffraeis there a god howto on lirc and ubuntu?05:04
crimsunweareallone: then: echo "snd-cs4236" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules05:04
BmurMadpilot: True.05:04
IdleOne!lirc05:04
ubotulirc is probably at http://www.lirc.com05:04
wastrellibxpm4 is packaged in apt05:04
intelikeyCanYouHelpMePlz is there not a readme or howto that came with your dl ?   or one on the site that will explain what to do with it ?05:04
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Jeffraei been there05:05
Ex-Cyberis X in Dapper monolithic, modular, or some kind of mix?05:05
mesaboogie1AMDXP:  the howto at ldp would suggest so05:05
yaaaris there a command i can run or somewhere i can look to find out what type of memory my system uses? the chipset (intel 845) can support both sdram and ddr, but i don't know which this board has05:05
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mesaboogie1(linuxdocumentationproject)05:05
JeffraeI installed lirc using package manager05:05
AMDXPmesaboogie1: ok i will check it out05:05
LordMelkormemsaboobilage05:05
intelikeyCanYouHelpMePlz if not look in the dirs i mentioned for a file of the same name.....   (make backups before you overwrite)05:05
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gpledhas anyone been getting lockups, with the last kernel update?05:05
CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: i got it, but where should i install xfce, is /usr/local ok?05:06
mesaboogie1lol05:06
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IdleOneJeffrae:  what do you need to know then?05:06
Jeffraewell i installed it05:06
unk468okay i noted on in my note book the command`s thanks intelikey | kookaburra05:06
intelikeyshould be fine CanYouHelpMePlz,  but /usr/X*/  is probably the prefered place.05:06
_smd_I was wondering if anyone else was having problems in05:06
_smd_gaim with getting user info in  Msn,not icq ?05:06
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JeffraeI just don't see how to test it with ubuntu.. I get errors saying not set up05:06
CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: /usr/X*/ ?05:07
Jeffraeis there a howto on lirc and the ubuntu distro05:07
kookaburraplease don't take any of the advice *I* gave you about root unk46805:07
gaspLaz:: do i know you?05:07
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IdleOnetry wiki.ubuntu.com/lirc05:07
cherylI'm havin probs installing amsn ...05:07
intelikeyyeah CanYouHelpMePlz 'ls /usr/ '   and you will see what i mean05:07
Jeffraethanks :)05:07
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Lazgasp: i guess you do05:07
CanYouHelpMePlzx11r6 ?05:07
Peteresquecan some 1 prvt me???05:07
Jeffraehmm does not exist yet05:07
intelikeythat's it05:07
gaspLaz:: ok.05:08
Jeffraemaybe you know of some other software that might help me05:08
kookaburrapervert you Peteresque !?05:08
JeffraeI just need to use lirc to see the pulses of my remote05:08
kookaburraheck no!05:08
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IdleOneJeffrae:  sorry i dont use it so I dont know how to set it up :/05:08
unk468is not about networking it`s about the thing that ubuntuu thinks/belive that my ISP have dhcp , but I have a static ip adress . in need to do a " netcfg or netcard configure" to input the ip / gateway / dns etc.05:08
JeffraeI am going to emulate it with a circuit05:08
Jeffraeits cool05:08
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Jeffraethanks for trying :)05:08
IdleOnenp05:08
Peteresquecan some 1 private me???got some serious questions05:08
intelikeyof course you know that the executable goes in <whereever>/bin/ CanYouHelpMePlz05:08
Peteresquecan some 1 private me???got some serious questions05:09
IdleOnePeteresque:  ask your question here it may help other users also05:09
MadpilotPeteresque: please stop repeating, and just ask your questions here...05:09
_smd_I also noticed at work with windows xp i cannot get user info either anymore, so i dont know if it is a all over problem... as I can only get on msn and aim at work05:09
Peteresqueanybody had the list of supported apps by Ubuntu???05:09
wastrelunk468:  system > administration > networking05:09
_smd_And i know at home i can get icq info05:09
Peteresqueanybody had the list of supported apps by Ubuntu???05:09
unk468i don`t have X05:10
_smd_but at work i cannot log on at all05:10
unk468gome etc05:10
bimberiPeteresque: (stop repeating) http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:10
unk468wastrel05:10
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MadpilotPeteresque: there's 16,000+ packages in Ubuntu's repos, and they all work in Ubuntu (mostly...)...05:10
LazIs Windows Vista supported in Ubuntu?05:10
LiteHeddedI need help getting samba running. please don't say !samba05:10
Peteresquethx...05:10
kookaburraomg. windows vista05:10
intelikeyCanYouHelpMePlz now let me give some free (un-solicited) advice, make notes of where you have put all those files you have installed by hand; because sooner or later you will be looking for them.05:10
hatake_kakashiunk468: it won't once you set it up to have static IP, upon install did you set it to dhcp or manual?05:10
weareallonecrimsun: done, do i need to reboot?05:10
skonis there another way to install to hard drive from live cd instead of using espresso?05:10
MadpilotLaz: go wash your mouth out with soap! :P05:11
IdleOnelol05:11
Laz:p05:11
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unk468id detected automaticaly that I have dhcp but i have static05:11
JeffraeI wish ubuntu was supported on the i505:11
_smd_I read thr gaim page tonight and they have no reported problems as i can see05:11
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LiteHedded!samba05:11
ubotusomebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:11
Jeffraei am stuck with suse05:11
kookaburrathe i5? what's that?05:11
wastrelunk468:  what detected?  is this ethernet?  dsl?  cablemodem?   dialup?05:11
IdleOneImac G505:11
Laz!php05:11
ubotulamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP05:11
unk468lan ?05:12
kookaburrai see05:12
unk468ethernet05:12
hatake_kakashiunk468: well, there is a file somewhere that you can set to make it static.. I only know of the thing manually, but didn't that network options under gnome help _at_ all?05:12
Peteresquedoes ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth?05:12
BmurHave any of you been running the alpha of Dapper?  If so, what are your first impressions?  Will it be able to run better on older hardware?  ...something like a 400mhz.  Have any of you been running Breezy on older hardware?05:12
Laz!Windows Vista05:12
ubotuLaz: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:12
wastrelunk468:  system > administration > networking05:12
intelikeyCanYouHelpMePlz it's a lot easier to make notes now and save them in a file, than to try to remember all the file names and where they are, tomarrow or next month....05:12
yaaaris there a command i can run or somewhere i can look to find out what type of memory my system uses? the chipset (intel 845) can support both sdram and ddr, but i don't know which this board has05:12
unk468huh I DONT have GNOME05:12
unk468:)05:12
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LiteHeddedSAMBA HELP PLEASE!05:12
wastrelunk468:  then  man interfaces  and configure  /etc/network/interfaces05:12
IdleOneLaz:  what do you mean does ubuntu support windows vista? side not has windows ever supported opensource?05:12
wearealloneif i can just find a good media player on here...05:13
hatake_kakashiunk468: ifconfig eth0 <IP> :P or man ifconfig05:13
LiteHeddedsorry for caps :)05:13
kookaburrawhat's the point of getting an expensive mac only to get of X?05:13
jbmagicany of you guys planning to ge tthe new macbook pro?05:13
unk468oky..05:13
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Peteresquedoes ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth?05:13
kookaburraget rid of even05:13
Jeffraenot05:13
JeffraeI5 <> Imac g505:13
JeffraeI5 is an IBM machine05:13
Bmurjbmagic: maybe this summer.  ...I still love my iBook.05:13
LazWill Ubuntu make coffee for me?05:13
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yaaarunk468: you'll probably also need to do 'route add -net default gw <gw ip>' after the ifconfig command to set your default route05:13
dabaRPeteresque: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/AirportExtreme05:13
LiteHeddedplease help05:14
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IdleOneJeffrae:  sorry05:14
Dr_Willis!ask05:14
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yaaarunk468: and in any case, that'll only do it for one boot...05:14
Jeffraeis cool05:14
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crimsunweareallone: you don't need to reboot. Those two steps were to ensure that audio functions correctly on subsequent boots.05:14
LiteHeddedcan't install my windoes shared printer05:14
JeffraeiSeries05:14
dabaRPeteresque: bluetooth works, afaik. dunno about whether all devices are supported.05:14
intelikeylaz if you hook it to a firecracker device, yes sir.05:14
weareallonenot sure if all problems are solved with sound yet05:14
hatake_kakashiLiteHedded: are you trying to print a file from Ubuntu to window's shared printer?05:14
wastrelLiteHedded:  system > administration > printing  didn't work?05:14
Jeffraethe i5 does use a PowerPC Proc though..05:14
_smd_So no one else is having issues with looking at user info in gaim?05:14
dabaRLiteHedded: did you read the wiki page?05:15
CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: thanks, can you help me with something05:15
LiteHeddedno it didn't work05:15
intelikeyCanYouHelpMePlz ask.05:15
LiteHeddedyea I read it05:15
kookaburrawill ubuntu interoperate with my dead cats' soul?05:15
LiteHeddedI've followed the instructions from !samba05:15
CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: hmm it might be working one sec.05:15
Dr_Williswindows/service pack 2 - has their annoying firewall that often blocks access to the shares.05:15
jbmagichow you like ubuntu compare to a mac?05:15
IdleOnekookaburra:  only if the cat is/was black05:15
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intelikeyLiteHedded that's off topic05:16
hatake_kakashiDr_Willis: aka ICF :)05:16
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LiteHeddedwhat's off topic?05:16
CanYouHelpMePlzintelikey: hmm yea it's working05:16
dabaRLiteHedded: http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch10.html05:16
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zetaif i upgrade ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.04, should i expect lots of brokeness?05:16
intelikey!offtopic05:16
ubotuofftopic is, like, Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!05:16
hatake_kakashizeta: probably yes05:16
intelikey!start an editor war05:17
ubotuintelikey: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:17
LiteHeddedk guess no one in here has expierience with samba05:17
_jason!offtopic =~ s/maybe/may be/05:17
ubotu_jason: OK05:17
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spikebikefirefox + flash audio broke for me05:17
LazDoes dapper 6.05 stop anal leakage?05:17
Peteresquehow to setup my bluetooth in my MacMini???05:17
zetahatake_kakashi, any way to reverse this process?05:17
disasmLiteHedded: whats the issue05:17
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Bmurjbmagic: Umm, there is no replacement for Mac in my life now.  I use Ubuntu for my brother and sister.  ...and I have a ubuntu machine at work.05:17
Mordoflittle help! where is the good nvidia driver install guide, the one with 3 methods to use.. ubotu doesn't have it05:17
Dr_Williszeta,  dapper is  in testing. :P i advise you dont mess with it yet.05:17
unk468and i have a BIG problem also if you really know how to solve it please answer me. I did installed by mistake grub in /dev/hda4 it`s my 100 G partition with music and it`s NTFS... it didn`t gived any error at install, i corected the error booted in ubuntoo, rebooted in win2k but i can`t see the partition now.. it see d: as filsystem unknown.(pqmagic see it as ntfs but the label is "m?m" I can`t format it05:17
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zetai have all sorts of fun things like missing icons and broken cursors05:17
CanYouHelpMePlzLaz: no, it causes it05:17
LiteHeddedcan't install smb printer or view network shares disasm05:17
hatake_kakashizeta: not really05:17
kookaburrait does if you cram the cd in the right places Laz05:17
yaaarLaz: i'd see your doctor about that leakage...05:17
zetacan i expect to eventually work? =)05:17
Dr_WillisLiteHedded,  that sounds exactly like MS's firewall.05:17
unk468and I don`t wish to format it05:18
jbmagicdoes ubuntu do a great job in recognizing hardware you have on your pc?05:18
LiteHeddednot running ms firewall05:18
disasmLiteHedded: view network shares from linux, or share from linux and view in windows?05:18
CanYouHelpMePlzjbmagic: yes it does, better then windows in alot of cases05:18
kookaburrajbmagic, it does a great job.05:18
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Mordofunk468: you probably will have to, that really screws up things big time05:18
hatake_kakashizeta: upon the full release, yes05:18
LiteHeddedfrom linux05:18
jbmagicawesome05:18
zetai can live with the brokeness until then05:18
zetathanks, hatake_kakashi05:18
LiteHeddedmy windows printer is shared and I want to install it in ubuntu05:18
hatake_kakashizeta: np05:18
jbmagichow long has ubuntu been out... its so popular now05:18
bimberi!xpprint05:19
kookaburracouple of years05:19
ubotuPrinting from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP05:19
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Mordofcooldaddydoof: you there?05:19
Peteresquehow to setup my bluetooth in my MacMini???05:19
dabaRbimberi: dio you use ubotu's search?05:19
Bmurjbmagic: I'll say this, Ubuntu does alot better dealing with my wireless card than XP.05:19
unk468ok but now i have 80 G music there and i can`t acces it because from my typing mistake in ubunt00 setup. now how about the root account is dangerous ?...05:20
unk468if the setup mount my ntfs partitin in RW ?05:20
bimberidabaR: no, i knew about the wiki pages and set up the factoid :)05:20
jbmagicbmur that awesome i cant wait to use ubuntu.05:20
hatake_kakashiunk468: you cannot setup linux to have full support of NTFS05:20
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boscoping google.com05:20
hatake_kakashiunk468: unless if you want to try captive NTFS and/or trialing to lose your data, then by all means go ahead05:21
unk468but y can setup linux to DONT WRITE GRUB ON NTFS05:21
asterisk99anyone here runnning asterisk on ubuntu?????05:21
Bmurjbmagic: have you tried any other linux distros?05:21
Dr_Willisyou can put grub on any of the various mbr's :P05:21
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Dr_Willison the different drives.05:21
wastrelthere's an asterix package in universe i believe05:21
yaaarasterisk99: not at the moment....but i had it on here a few months back05:21
jbmagicbmur did you keep everything on ubuntu when you install the default ubuntu?05:21
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hatake_kakashiunk468: its the same deal vice versa, you cannot put it on NTFS because its not supported05:21
wastrelhatake_kakashi:  isn't there read only ntfs support05:21
boscogo to EternalCry.com and set up a user name05:21
gasplaz05:21
JeffraeAnyone running Gnome in ubuntu?05:21
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jbmagicbmur i try gentoo, but it seems kind hard to install05:21
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wastrelhatake_kakashi:  he could rescue data & reformat maybe?05:22
yaaarJeffrae: nope.....nobody05:22
Dr_WillisJeffrae,  most people are. :P05:22
Lazgasp05:22
hatake_kakashiwastrel: read the question, unk468 wants rw support for ntfs05:22
Jeffraehahaha05:22
_jasonJeffrae: probably a lot of people05:22
zetaJeffrae, ubuntu runs gnome by default =P05:22
nbjaymewill anybody please help me on how to record online radio...05:22
gaspmsg me05:22
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intelikeyJeffrae first time on ubuntu eeh ?05:22
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JeffraeI was kidding05:22
PeteresqueLaz:any site about how to setup my bluetooth in my MacMini???05:22
Bmurjbmagic: I didn't really get rid of anything from the standard install05:22
hatake_kakashiunk468: there is only read support for NTFS not write05:22
JeffraeI was always a KDE guy.. Ubuntu made me into a Gnome guy05:22
unk468y didn`t undestood I REALY INSTALLED GRUB IN MY NTFS /dev/hda4 by mistake , at ubuntoo setup !05:22
Bmurjbmagic: I added a few programs05:22
JeffraeKDE was always faster on mandrake systems in my experiance05:22
_jasonnbjayme: use mplayer -dumpstream05:22
LazPeteresque: check the forums05:22
jbmagicbmur so kinda new to linux.  just hope ubuntu will be easy to learn.05:23
Dr_Willisunk468,  so?05:23
hatake_kakashiunk468: you meant on the MBR :P05:23
unk468and now windows dosen`t know the filesystem of hda405:23
unk468grr05:23
unk468so05:23
PeteresqueLaz:does Ubuntu support Mp2 sound format?05:23
Bmurjbmagic: Ubuntu makes installing apps pretty simple from repositories05:23
PeteresqueLaz:does Ubuntu support Mp3 sound format?05:23
unk468i have data there witch i need05:23
jbmagicbmur what kind of things you do on your ubuntu system?05:23
IdleOnePeteresque:  yes and yes05:23
wastrelunk468:  there is read-only ntfs support for linux, copy off your data and then reformat the partition05:23
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nbjayme_jason anyway of using sox?05:23
intelikeyJeffrae speed was never a real issue to me, i guess i'm what you might classify as a 'control freek' so kde is still my choice....05:23
hatake_kakashiunk468: like I said, only read support not write05:23
LazPeteresque: Yes and even Mp105:23
yaaarPeteresque: go to the wiki page on RestrictedFormats05:23
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Jeffraeso you use kbuntu?05:24
_jasonnbjayme: don't know what sox is05:24
Bmurjbmagic: read the article on adding universe and multiverse repositories05:24
intelikeyJeffrae no05:24
unk468what is matter with these guys ?...05:24
jbmagicbmur you have direct link thanks05:24
nbjayme_jason, will mplayer allow one to listen while recording?05:24
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_jasonnbjayme: yes05:24
PeteresqueLaz:but yesterday i try 2 play my Mp3 sonngs with the player it sayz it doesn't support05:24
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_jasonubotu: tell Peteresque about mp305:25
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hatake_kakashiunk468: you *cannot* write any data to NTFS, simple as that05:25
IdleOne!tell Peteresque  about restrictedformats05:25
rizzHello05:25
sinbloxHow can I use DVDs on Ubuntu? I can't figure out what I need to download.05:25
wastrelhi05:25
IdleOnePeteresque:  read the msg ubotu  sent you05:25
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_jasonubotu: tell sinblox about dvd05:25
Dr_Willissinblox,  i use 'k3b'05:25
jbmagicso hardrive has to be fat 32 for ubuntu?05:25
Dr_Willissinblox,  to burn them :P05:25
Peteresqueokok05:25
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mesaboogie1!tell mesaboogie1 about winter-gtk05:25
Bmurjbmagic: At home, my brother and sister and I use it for wireless internet, openoffice, music playback, etc.  At work I use it for some of the same things and a little email with Evolution.05:25
Jeffraeyou run kde on ubuntu itelikey?05:25
JRlinuxhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410460  says that the new Dapper Drake will drive the wireless Broadcom 4318.  Would that include dapper-install-amd64.iso and dapper-live-i386.iso (615MB)05:25
dabaRDr_Willis: good choice.05:25
sinbloxThanks guys05:26
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rizzI am looking for an ap to print DVD covers05:26
LazOh n0es my computerz st0l3d my m3gahurtz05:26
yaaaris there a command i can run or somewhere i can look to find out what type of memory my system uses? the chipset (intel 845) can support both sdram and ddr, but i don't know which this board has05:26
nbjayme_jason, ok ill try mplayer. i hope recording radio will be incorporated on totem soon. just too many multimedia to download on my ubuntu seems to be too confusing.05:26
PeteresqueThx jason05:26
intelikeyi have Jeffrae,  this system doesn't have x tho05:26
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unk468i booted the ubuntoo cd, started like "server" , the setup script asked me questions about partition table , swap etc. at the GRUB install i didn input /dev/hda5 (reiserFS) instead of /dev/hda4 (ntfs) and now windows dosen`t see the D: (hda5)05:26
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Jeffraeusing the console?05:26
_jasonnbjayme: mplayer is awesome, I use it for everything05:26
biovoreyaaar: Look at the ram chips.. SD ram has 3 notches.. DDR only has 105:26
Laznbjayme: just open your computer up05:27
biovore(2 notich for SDRAM)05:27
intelikeyJeffrae yes.    but never installed kubuntu  just kde on ubuntu05:27
hatake_kakashiunk468: windows cannot see any other filesystems apart from FAT32 and NTFS05:27
Jeffraeok05:27
alex2456can anyone help me, i just updated my comp from the package manager and gnome does not come up when i boot, its only a terminal05:27
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CoffeeIVHow do I get emacs on ubuntu ?05:27
dabaRrizz: "sudo aptitude search cover"05:27
biovorehatake_kakashi: there is a hack for windows for ext3 read/write support05:27
Dr_Willisapt-get install emacs05:27
Peteresque_jason Thx05:27
alex2456it also downloaded the new kernal05:27
bjvbiovore: i think there is05:27
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dabaRrizz: or use synaptic05:27
rizzLooking for a gui ap to print dvd covers or could use photo printing applacation05:27
unk468ok but it is an NTFS partition (with grub on it)05:27
hatake_kakashibiovore: I was about to get around to that, but default windows install does *not*05:27
_jasonPeteresque: np05:27
nbjayme_jason : the documentation of sox kinda says that it can capture raw data sent to /dev/dsp but i cannot make my brain to make it work. :D05:27
intelikeyCoffeeIV sudo apt-get install xemacs05:27
jbmagicbmur that cool. i probably make the 2nd cpu and put it in my room for UBUNTU.   if main cpu is my pc, i have dsl modem..if i get a wireless router and wireless card for Ubuntu will it work and share my dsl05:27
ssstormydoes anyone have an idea as to why amule dies when I feed it a e2k:// link?05:27
Hawaii101why does this channel ban tor users ?05:27
mesaboogie1yaaar:  what does ps -A say?05:28
disasm_jason: mplayers even better with a frontend like freevo so you can be lazy and use an ir remote to control the music :-D05:28
yaaarbiovore: i can't really see in there as it is, and i don't want to turn it off and pop the stick out, as mythtv is recording adult swim. also, i'd like to know whether it's ddr 200 vs. 266, etc05:28
biovorehatake_kakashi: no.. its MS.. of course not..05:28
Dr_Willishttp://www.fs-driver.org/  - read ext2/3 under windows.05:28
ssstormyor edk://, whichever it was05:28
christopher_whats the rename command in terminal to rename a file?05:28
bimberiCoffeeIV: actually the package is emacs2105:28
Lazdoes apt-get print money work?05:28
_jasonnbjayme: ah then I suppose you could use that as well, however I have no experience with it :P05:28
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yaaarmesaboogie1:   PID TTY          TIME CMD05:28
ssstormychristopher_, mv file newfile05:28
yaaar18239 pts/0    00:00:00 ps05:28
yaaarmesaboogie1: woops05:28
weareallonecrimsun: i get this msg when i try to play something on totem- There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins... so far no other player works either ...rythmbox says mp3 is not streaming music05:28
_jasondisasm: ha, yeah sounds good05:28
Dr_Willischristopher_,  'mv'  - time to fimnd/read a few bash tutorials. :P05:28
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mesaboogie1yaaar:  whoops what?05:28
Jeffraeyaar I take it you use lirc with ubuntu?05:28
christopher_oh i know the mv command05:28
crimsunweareallone: install gstreamer0.8-mad05:28
_jasonubotu: tell christopher_ about cli05:28
christopher_i didnt know that could be used the same way05:28
ssstormyweareallone, make sure to install all the gstreamer packages05:28
intelikeyHawaii101 because of all the trubble that tor user have caused in the past ?05:29
crimsun!tell weareallone about restricted05:29
nbjayme_jason: gtg. thanks for the inputs.05:29
monzieho do i non -destructively partition my fs?05:29
CoffeeIVapt-get install emacs21 worked . . . why isn't that in the gui installer thing ?05:29
ssstormyweareallone, and do gst-register-0.805:29
mesaboogie1lol05:29
hatake_kakashiunk468: so what? that doesn't mean that your NTFS is guarenteed to work, nor is it that you are going to get write support on linux.. it does not matter which distro, etc you choose. NTFS is propriatory and microsoft likes to keep thing secret, like what thety have been doing for the last 20 odd years. Blame Microsoft05:29
bjvi need to put all of my drives on ide0 onto ide1, in order to troubleshoot the controller.  changing all hda to hdc & all hdb to hdd in 1) /etc/fstab and 2) /boot/grub/menu.lst05:29
monzieut has ext3 fs on it , and i want to carve out 10 gigs for FBSD05:29
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yaaarmesaboogie1: i did -a not -A ....but the output of -A is long but doesn't seem relevant....am i looking for something in particular?05:29
bjvif i restart05:29
bjvwill there be any other problems?05:29
crimsunHawaii101: it didn't after we removed it. Apparently chanserv has reinforced it.05:29
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bjvi think those 2 things will cover everything, when i make the switch05:29
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dabaRhatake_kakashi: no, blame canada.05:29
biovorehehe05:29
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Toma-yaaar, theres not really a way to find out that info... theres a sticker on the side of most ram modules that tells u what it is?05:29
ssstormyJeffrae, "Jeffrae: yaar I take it you use lirc " ... sounds like you a pirate!  >-D05:29
hatake_kakashidabaR: I don't see how Canada sees fit :p05:29
Hawaii101crimsun: wierd cause I can login to other channels while tores05:30
Hawaii101crimsun: wierd cause I can login to other channels while tored05:30
yaaarJeffrae: no, i've not setup the remote yet. not sure i will...the machine is in a fairly small room anyway05:30
intelikeymonzie ?  non-destructively partition ?     like resize an existing partition ?05:30
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weareallonegst-regiter-0.8 on terminal?05:30
Hawaii101no big deal just wondering05:30
ssstormybjv sounds ike you got it covered05:30
monzieyes intelikey05:30
ssstormyweareallone, after you install the packages05:30
crimsunHawaii101: like I said, chanserv reinforced it. I've removed it.05:30
bjvssstormy: i was pretty sure.05:30
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ssstormyweareallone, it adds all the packages to the list of avalible codecs05:30
wearealloneis this for most packages as well?05:30
unk468hatake_kakashi I know that but , don`t you belive that next seup will bee mutch better if WON`T let stupid users like me to install grub only in reiserFS ext3 etc not on ntfs?05:30
ssstormyweareallone, or you can save time and isntall totem-xine05:30
intelikeyparted monzie   or gparted05:31
bjvanyone else see a hole in my plan?05:31
yaaarToma-: current visibility inside the case is extremely limited05:31
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bjvid rather not get boned with a system that wont boot. :\05:31
Toma-yaaar, doh :(05:31
unk468i was refering to next install script...05:31
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weareallonefrom packages?05:31
Lazyaaar:  get a flashlight05:31
ssstormybjv, if it dosn't work just stick in a floppy and undo05:31
bjvand have to dig up a boot disk05:31
hatake_kakashiunk468: that's to do with debian installer not ubuntu05:31
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Toma-yaaar, only other place i could think, is thru memtest, but that needs a reboot05:31
yaaarLaz: not a light issue....cable obstructions primarily05:31
bjvyeah05:31
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Bmurjbmagic: it should do that just fine.  As long as you get a wireless card that is detected automatically.05:31
yaaarToma-: yeah05:31
bjvid have to find a floppy drive :P05:31
weareallonessstormy: in packages, this xine?05:31
Lazyaaar: move the cables aside :P05:32
bjvand a disk :P05:32
bjv(id just use an ubuntu live disk)05:32
epphey my ubuntu wont boot unless it has grabbed the time from the internet, because its defaultly set to 1901. how can i change the default?05:32
CanYouHelpMePlzwil running a bin in sudo mode fix errors that it gets not being able to make dirs?05:32
ssstormyweareallone, well you can use xine, but if you want to stick with totem use totem-xine (totem-xine uses the xine-lib instead of gstreamer)05:32
jbmagicbmur what you recommend for a router and wireless card..05:32
Toma-epp, quit living in the past! :D05:32
dabaRCanYouHelpMePlz: probably.05:32
disasmepp: go into bios and adjust it05:32
CanYouHelpMePlzdabaR: cool thanks05:32
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unk468well i did downloaded a ubuntoo .iso not a deb.iso the guys from debian say ubuntoo isn`t debian so... the developers shoud fix the problem , because i might lost about 80 G of info now.05:32
biovoreCanYouHelpMePlz: sudo is god mode on linux..  you can do anything,.. include get hacked05:32
ssstormyweareallone, xine is like a dvd kinda player feel while totem is more of a multipurpose player feel05:32
CanYouHelpMePlzbiovore: god mode lol05:32
ssstormyat least for me05:32
hatake_kakashiunk468: and also, one should be aware of the fact that Microsoft keeps its secrets like KFC with their so called 'receipes'. Can't blame OSS just because you had their product installed on something that is part of Microsoft05:32
Toma-epp, you want to stop getting the time at boot?05:33
eppdiasm, im on a mac.05:33
JeffraeKFC?05:33
yaaarLaz: not long enough; it's a sony box, with small board and stuff's really packed in. trust me, the visual inspection will have to wait until midnight, when the recording for today is over...05:33
wastrelunk468:  file a bug, maybe they will change the installer05:33
Bmurjbmagic: you wanna talk in a different window?05:33
Toma-biovore, i thought it was idqdd? :D05:33
JeffraeInverted KFC Bucket and White Mask?05:33
hatake_kakashiunk468: the problem is, its not that.. do you think that ubuntu has its own installer? it looks very very similar to that of debians05:33
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rizzOk looking for a GUI app to print dvd covers, one to print photos might work plz PM me with ideas05:33
intelikeybjv only other problem i see is that if there is a disk on ide0 you will be looking for a boot disk....   if there is no dirve on ide0 you are in like flin05:33
CanYouHelpMePlzToma-: or idpispopd05:33
disasmepp: hmmm, so you can't boot into ubuntu because hw clock is set wrong... makes it difficult...05:33
yaaarLaz: not that that's the end of the world....it would of course be that long before i could plug in another stick...05:33
Toma-haha05:33
unk468ah i don`t wish to blame of to start a flame here, i just wish my problem solved. i`ll get out from here for now bye05:33
CanYouHelpMePlzToma-: idspispopd*05:33
biovoreToma-: need idifa for some real fun05:33
eppToma, can i mabey set it so always read 2006?05:33
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Toma-idkfa = ftw :)05:34
eppdisasm, yes i know.05:34
CanYouHelpMePlzToma-: haha05:34
biovoreToma-: yes thats it05:34
CanYouHelpMePlzToma-: "their is no cow level"05:34
eppkde boots...05:34
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dabaRrizz: I told you how to find.05:34
biovoreCanYouHelpMePlz: someone wrote one though :-P05:34
LazIn windows we have a thing called sandra and it would tell you what memory type you have but i dont know in linux05:34
dougemdcan anyone help with getting dvd playback to work. I'm following at how-to online. I set up the extra repositories like it said. But when I tried to add libdvdcss2 I get an error.05:34
eppthen i can go into gnome after i have booted jde05:34
CanYouHelpMePlzbiovore: lol blizzard did.05:34
Toma-epp, oh, so your bios clock keep reseting?05:34
dougemdits says it doesn't exist05:34
eppkde*05:34
rizzsorry missed it05:34
biovoredougemd: memtest8605:34
hatake_kakashiLaz: write your own program for it, stop whinging about what you get in windows05:34
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ssstormydougemd, did you refresh the repos?05:34
eppToma-, i dont know how to change it on a mac.05:35
ssstormydougemd, apt-get update05:35
Toma-epp, i see.05:35
Toma-epp, neither do i :|05:35
Lazhatake_kakashi: im not whinning :P im just telling yaaar05:35
phillipchow do I find the name of the shared library that someone has? e.g. libgdk-x11-2.0 is the general lib, and they may have libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1; how do I get that name?05:35
tsipperwhat's the apt-get command to download gnutella?05:35
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dabaRrizz: use synaptic, and search for cover. or "aptitude search cover" in the terminal05:35
phillipctsipper: apt-get install gtk-gnutella05:35
wastreltsipper:  apt-cache search gnutella05:35
tsipperthanks05:35
dabaRhatake_kakashi: it's OK.05:36
rizzTHANK YOU05:36
Laohello folks05:36
IdleOnemmmm gnutella is good on toast ()05:36
Bmurjbmagic: you there?05:36
wastrelphillipc:  they'll never learn if you hold their hand05:36
phillipcwastrel: sorry05:36
hatake_kakashiLaz: you ramble on about windows and linux like as if they were two matched OS05:36
eppToma-, can i set a script in a startup file that changes the time to newer default?05:36
wastrelphillipc:  :]  i'm just grumpy tonite05:36
dougemdssstormy, yes I did05:36
Laois their anyone who has time to help someone new to Linux with a problem with ndiswrapper?05:36
dougemdbiovore, what does memtest86 do?05:36
jbmagicbmur i message you05:37
jbmagiccheck your message05:37
biovorechecks your memory05:37
hatake_kakashidougemd: mem tester05:37
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tsipperI am new to this program, is their a website that I can go that lists all available programs for download?05:37
dougemdhatake_kakashi, how would that help with dvd play back?05:37
CanYouHelpMePlztsipper: it's an operating system :-)05:37
hatake_kakashitsipper: synaptic05:37
biovoredougemd: or write your own little program to do some operations and time how long it takes..05:37
bimberitsipper: http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:37
tga1hey, what's a fancy tool for making presentations other than ooimpress?05:37
axisyshey all.. i a keep getting the following two lines in dmesg05:38
axisys[4384384.260000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.05:38
axisys[4384384.357000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).05:38
tga1maybe something more flashish, based on animation05:38
biovoretga1: I think there is one with the koffice packages05:38
hatake_kakashidougemd: *shrug* I don't know, you asked about memtest86. I assume faulty RAM can effect certain parts of the OS, etc05:38
axisyssorry pastebin.com is not loading05:38
Bmurjbmagic: hmm, I dunno I tried sending a message to you too05:38
tga1biovore, other than kpresenter too05:38
ssstormydougemd, try another tutorial?05:38
Hawaii101tga1: crossover-office and PowerPoint 2003 :)05:38
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jbmagicbmur what you using to chat?05:38
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eppcan anyone help out with my time problem?05:38
dougemdssstormy, I just can't understand why I can't get libdvdcss2 installed05:38
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hatake_kakashiBmur: you have to be registered to pm registered users05:39
Laodoes anyone know about wireless networking using a broadcom wireless card?05:39
ssstormydougemd, what's the error?05:39
dougemdssstormy, I get Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:39
dougemdThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:39
dougemdis only available from another source05:39
intelikeyepp time problem ?   describe ?05:39
Bmurjbmagic, my irc client05:39
ssstormydougemd, open up synaptic05:39
Lazhatake_kakashi: sorry i forgot windows is ahead of linux05:39
_jasonubotu: tell dougemd about dvd05:39
tga1Hawaii101, right05:39
wastrel!broadcom05:39
ubotuhmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards05:39
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jbmagicbnur using mirc here05:39
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hatake_kakashiLaz: yes windows is ahead in terms of eye-candy UI and that you pay big money for it05:40
Bmurjbmagic: ok, apparently we have to be registered members to chat like that05:40
tga1any nice 2d animation tool for Linux?05:40
ssstormydougemd, or use apt-get install libdvdread305:40
ssstormydougemd, that's the package i have05:40
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IdleOneBmur:  jbmagic  you need to register with nickserv /msg nickserv help05:40
Lazhatake_kakashi: if you pay your dumb :P05:40
Bmurjbmagic: I'll just talk fast05:40
biovorewww.kde-look.org is good for eye candy05:40
Hawaii101tga1: you can use gimp to create animated gifs :)05:40
kijunhi05:40
biovorewww.gnome-look.org I think too05:40
tga1Hawaii101, any other bright ideas?05:40
jbmagicbmur ok05:40
kijunyes... I love "gnome-look.org"05:40
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Hawaii101a few ....05:41
hatake_kakashiLaz: if you don't pay, you fall under piracy, and if you get caught? don't blame on me. I like how linux was and how it will be.. something that windows can never compare to 'bang-for-your-buck'. So if you desire to choose an OS that does not comply with RASIS/POSIX compliance. Then by all means, go right ahead05:41
dougemdssstormy, says I already have the latest05:41
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Hawaii101hatake_kakashi: have you seen the compiz videos05:41
ssstormythen you're good to go05:41
hatake_kakashiHawaii101: no05:41
ssstormyoh wait, not yet05:41
dougemdssstormy, version of libdvdread3....what dvd player are you using?05:41
ssstormydougemd, there's a script that libdvdread3 isntalls, that you have to run05:42
Hawaii101hatake_kakashi: INCREDIBLY cool UI05:42
eppintelikey, my crappy mac wont boot linux because the time defaults to 1901. gnome doesnt like it, so it only boots if im connected to the net where it can grab the real time.05:42
ssstormydougemd, I use xine most of the time05:42
biovorePOSTIX is a must for me!!05:42
monziecan anyone please tell me how to resize an ext3 partition?05:42
ssstormymonzie, try gparted05:42
chameleonany one know any good tutoriles for ubuntu?05:42
ssstormymonzie, apt-get install gparted05:42
dougemdssstormy, can you point me to a how to with libdvdread3 so I don't have to waste your time with you explain to me the details?05:42
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ssstormychameleon, take a look in the help browser.  theres a icon on the top of the screen05:42
Bmurjbmagic: I have a cheap $20 (after rebate) dlink router.  ...but I'm actually using a friend's linksys.  My card is a foxconn that I got for $10 on Newegg (during a sale).  It was detected by Ubuntu and has been ok (sometimes it drops signal temporarily though and I'm not sure the cause, not a big deal)05:42
weareallonessstormy: do i need to register everything in the terminal, first day on05:42
IdleOnechameleon:  wiki.ubuntu.com05:42
ssstormydougemd, yeah just a min05:42
ssstormyweareallone, yeh you run the gst-reg from a terminal05:43
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ssstormyweareallone, and incase I spelled it bad type "gst-reg<tab>"05:43
_joeyhas anyone installed nfdiswrapper05:43
jbmagicbmur thanks so much.. that dlinl router is wireless and wired right?05:43
eppmy crappy mac wont boot linux because the time defaults to 1901. gnome doesnt like it, so it only boots if im connected to the net where it can grab the real time.05:44
ssstormydougemd, it's ALL here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:44
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dabaRssstormy: it is maybe gst0.8-register, do the tab earlier.05:44
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kijunthat's interesting05:44
LiteHeddedhow do I mount this vcd I just put in?05:44
ssstormydabaR, I know it's gst-regsomething05:44
weareallonethat registers any new apps?05:44
ssstormyweareallone, no it registers your new gst plugins05:44
kijunI would want to know that how to do it?  does anyone know ?05:44
weareallonei installed totem-xine, how do use it?05:45
Bmurjbmagic: Oh, the dlink works fine as well though...  This is the website I used for enabling the repositories.  Some of the repositories are disabled by default, this tells you how to enable them.  It gives you access to alot of other programs such as the VLC media player.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:45
kijunvcd... case.... try /media directory05:45
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chameleoni take it ubuntu does not come with Wine05:45
sinaduelnewbie question, how do I play MP3's?05:45
LiteHeddedkijun how do I mount it?05:45
robotgeeksinaduel, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:45
jbmagicBmur thanks so much05:45
kijunwine... I don't think so (but not sure)05:45
kijunhowever, you can get it05:46
Eleafubotu, tell sinaduel about restrictedformats05:46
intelikeyepp there are two scripts in the /etc/init.d/   both dealing with "hwclock*"   i sujest you remove the symlinks in /etc/rcS.d/  that point to these two scripts and add a script or a line in the bootmisc script that sets the clock to some default like this present time.    that should allow you to boot and start gnome.    then you can use  ntpdate to sync you clock with the network as needed.      if you need help with any o05:46
kijunsystem >> administator >> Synatic05:46
jbmagicBmur does that router to wired and wireless right?  i just want my main window xp connected by wired to router and ubuntu system wireless with wireless card05:46
kijunthen you can anything you want05:46
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mordofack! ok so im in dapper right? and my X wont start, i just tried to install the nvidia drivers.... i need help :S05:47
Eleafeeek05:47
eppintelkey, i will try to understand what you just said.05:47
slideA recent upgrade to the wine package made a program not work anymore so i need to downgrade it, how would i go about that?05:47
Bmurjbmagic: yeah I believe so, that should work fine. The Ubuntu has some pretty good documentation if I remember correctly.  If your ever going to use dial-up, use an external modem.05:47
jbmagicBmur i have dsl modem05:47
a2xmhi.. why I cannot setting up SWAT? I thought I did configure it.05:48
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jbmagicBmur what is repositories mean>?05:48
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kijunhi05:49
kijunis anyone here?05:49
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jaypee_where is smeg config at?05:49
jaypee_i want to delete an item from menu05:49
intelikeyepp  man hwclock    should help you05:49
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armenbwhat's the default root password?05:50
odlahi05:50
dabaR!root05:50
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ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:50
odlawhat's the command for running the installer from the flight 4 cd?05:50
Bmurjbmagic: I just want to help you out with some things that took me a little time.  Ok ok.  Repositories are basically where these packages are stored on the internet I guess.  So if you go to the add software program you can select a program to add and it will go out and grab the packages and install it for you.05:50
odlathe flight 4 livecd?05:50
kijunthere is no default root password05:50
intelikeythe defauld root password is the null string05:50
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jbmagicbmur oh i see thanks. why by default they block that?05:51
Bmurjbmagic:  the more repositories that are enabled, the more programs you can access through the program manager app.05:51
intelikeyjbmagic cause they can ?05:51
odlaespresso maybe?05:51
kijunhowever you can make it (root password) from... the menu system >> admin >> usrs and groups05:51
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IdleOnewhats the command to change a filename?05:51
jbmagiclol05:51
XenguyIdleOne: mv05:51
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IdleOneXenguy:  mv?05:52
kijunmv05:52
XenguyIdleOne: man mv05:52
kijunyes, it is mv05:52
intelikeymv = move05:52
IdleOneI dont want to move it05:52
kijunno no no05:52
intelikeyyes you do05:52
IdleOneI want to rename it05:52
kijunthink about it05:52
XenguyIdleOne: man mv05:52
IdleOneokie05:52
Bmurjbmagic: I often wondered this same question.  Linux people tend to do a lot of things that don't make sense to the average user.05:52
robotgeekIdleOne: yes, you rename by moving :)05:52
IdleOne()05:52
_joeyhow do I use wildcard to remove package using dpkg ?05:52
kijunmv means actually same as rename05:52
kijunmv it to the other name...05:52
kijunyou got it???05:52
jbmagicbmur what the command to get programs and the command to remove programs completly?05:52
dabaRIdleOne: to rename a file, you move it to another file. to delete something, you replace that something with nothing.05:53
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intelikey-joey very carefully, unless you are read to reload your system anyway.....05:53
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Xenguyjbmagic: apt-get update && apt-get isntall programname05:53
Bmurjbmagic:  I think they just enabled the repositories that they thought people would need the most.05:53
Xenguyapt-get remove programname05:53
Xenguyjbmagic: man apt-get :-)05:53
wastrelBmur:  they enabled the repositories with free open source software05:53
intelikeywith --purge   if you want to remove any configs it may have05:54
dougemdcan anyone help with what is probably a permissions error with dvd playback?05:54
wastrelBmur:  universe & multiverse have less open licenses05:54
Bmurjbmagic: yeah, apt-get install (application name)05:54
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jbmagicthanks05:54
weareallonethx evry105:54
dougemdI can't play a movie through the totem player...the disc is automounted but seems to not be able to read from the first sector05:54
Bmurwastrel: I see...  That makes sense.05:54
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wastrelBmur:  sorry, multiverse is non-free universe is "community maintained"05:55
intelikeyjbmagic no one else seems to have mentioned it,   only root can add or remove packages.... use sudo05:55
IdleOnehow do I escape back to a promtp?05:55
Xenguyq  ?05:55
IdleOnethank you05:55
wastrelIdleOne:  from X?05:55
dougemddoes my user account have to be in a certain group for dvd playback to work?05:55
wastrelah from man05:55
Xenguywastrel: man05:55
jbmagicit best to use the terminal on ubuntu right05:55
IdleOnesometimes the most obvious things are the furthest from being seen05:55
intelikey[ctrl]  C   to kill things    [ctrl]  Z to  suspend them....05:55
Xenguyjbmagic: there is no best; there is just most efficient ;-)05:55
jbmagicXenguy thanks05:56
Xenguyjbmagic: yw05:56
Laoit's not suprising that linux as so few people to it, when its so confucing for the adverage end user05:56
brad_teenbothey everyone, i have windows and linux on my computer all in grub and was wonderin if i go to redo my windows if it will affects the linux or if linux will be allright if  try to redo it????05:56
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jbmagiclinux doesnt seem too bad once you ge tthe hang of it05:56
XenguyLao: Ubuntu gnu/linux has different levels of entry, which is good05:56
tsipperanybody have a url for gnutella host addresses?05:56
jbmagicwhat programs you guys recommend to get?05:56
dabaRbrad_teenbot: it will be affected.05:57
Bmurwastrel: yeah, i guess I understand where they are coming from.05:57
Laoyea I got a nice help sheet that relates linux to dos, which I'm very fimiliar with05:57
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tga1any idea how I can make icons smaller in Gnome?05:57
XenguyLao: linux will make dos look like a cripple very shortly ;-)05:57
axisyshey guys .. what is this mean?05:57
Laoyea as I've noticed05:57
axisysatkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known05:57
jbmagicwhat great about ubuntu..its great for newbies and great for advance user right?05:57
brad_teenbotoo it will? ok well thanks i just didnt know because im kinda new with the whole linux scence but im trying to learn more about it but i have to keep windows for other reasons05:57
axisyswhat keycode do i set it to?05:57
axisys!setkeycodes05:58
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ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys05:58
intelikeyleo  ha !    you mean for the avarage user that is familear with windows and therefore thinks they should know everything about *nix as well.....   it's not confusing to one that has never seen windows.   it's probably easier to learn than all that 'point and click crap'05:58
Bmurjbmagic: VLC is a great media player.  Tons better than what is installed.05:58
dabaRtga1: the ones on the desktop, or where?05:58
Xenguyjbmagic: Ubu is built on Debian goodness :-)05:58
Laojust trying to get all my stuff to work... my modle computer is a linux nightmare... nothing is supported...05:58
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ManticeI just downloaded Ubuntu... and its not good with its parition system :(05:58
Laohp 5404us05:58
IdleOneLao:  the adjustment period from win to linux is difficult but Im sticking with it and starting to enjoy myself05:58
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tga1dabaR, sorry, I mean toolbar icons05:58
Xenguyjbmagic: beginner or expert, it doesn't matter, it has it all05:58
jbmagicnice05:58
dabaRtga1: well, they are as big as the panel itself is, which can be set if you right click on a panel and select properties.05:59
BmurHave any of you been running any builds of Dapper?05:59
Laoyea, well I have no choice, my school uses it for a predominately large amount of our programs, so since I plan to be able to use it well, linux isn't a bad thing to know05:59
axisysanyone know how to set keycodes?05:59
brad_teenboti was wonderin, im thinking about putting just linux onto my labtob,,, how many megabites are required to be able to put linux on there?05:59
Manticecan I boot ubuntu off another hard drive05:59
XenguyLao: hardware requires research indeed, but most of the hardware is supported05:59
tga1dabaR, toolbars, not panels05:59
kookaburramantice, you should be able to specify how you want your partitions set up. you don'thave to go with the default05:59
Manticei have a 40 gb hard drive here05:59
Xenguybrad_teenbot: someone earlier said 1.8 Gb05:59
Bmurpermissions can be kinda sucky sometimes06:00
ManticeI really dont wana mess with them06:00
ManticeJust incase oops there goes my music :)06:00
jbmagickookaburra do i need partion magic to partion by hardrive before i install ubuntu?06:00
XenguyLao: linux is a really good investment in your computer future :-)06:00
kookaburraif you want to keep windows06:00
brad_teenbotXenguy: oh really? ok well thanks alot i really dont know where id be if this chatroom was here to help me lol Thanks06:00
Laoholy crap I really didn't think I was ever going to get this wireless card to work06:00
ManticeDo you think id be best to buy a 2 $ ide cable and hook up my 40 gb seagate? and let unbuntu have the whole thing :)06:01
Laoyea, I'm an electrical engineering major so I figured it isn't a bad idea to learn06:01
dougemdwhat is the udf option in the fstab for options?06:01
Xenguyjbmagic: not necessarily06:01
Mantice:/06:01
tsipperanybody have a gnutella host ip address?06:01
Xenguyjbmagic: what is your setup (or should I just look up-buffer?)06:01
ManticeMine?06:02
intelikeyMantice yes.06:02
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kookaburraif you plan on using linux long term then why not let it take over your hard drive?06:02
ManticeThanks Intelikey06:02
Xenguyheheh06:02
Grevescan i install ubuntu without a CD ?06:02
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Grevesi.e. completely network install06:02
jbmagicxenguy i plan to get a 20gn hardrive and use an old pent 2 sytem for ubuntu.. what size i need my partions and what kind?06:02
XenguyGreves: you're the 3rd person today...06:02
ManticeEvery one hates windows but theres just some times when some one needs it06:02
kookaburrafor what?06:02
XenguyGreves: look for 'net install'06:02
kookaburragames?06:02
ManticeYeah06:02
BmurWhy doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the files?06:02
GrevesXenguy: so what's the answer for the third time? :D06:02
Grevesok06:02
XenguyMantice: not really (but depends on your business I suppose)06:03
intelikeyMantice if you can add an hdd for $2   that is always the way to go.    even if there is already 12 hdds in the box.06:03
Manticelol :)06:03
intelikeyno joke06:03
ManticeI have 2 SATA and this will bew ide06:03
athlonI need to install liboil-0.3.6 in order to test gnome 2.14 beta. Since I use kubuntu breezy and the required liboil package only avilable for dapper, I was wondering if it is okay to upgrade my breezy liboil using the deb file from dapper cvs06:03
jbmagicso for partitions i need a /swap and /file only?06:03
jbmagicwhat size shjould they be06:04
Xenguyjbmagic: swap and boot/root if yer lazy like me06:04
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brad_teenbotVarsendagger: are you around? i was wonderin what was going on with that labtop????06:04
kookaburrasame here Xenguy06:04
intelikeyyou probably don't actually need a /swap   but you must have a  / <--root jbmagic06:04
jbmagicxenguy will ask me what size when i install it?06:04
BmurWhy doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the files?06:04
Xenguykookaburra: I've been doing that for years; too lazy to figure out the proper way to segment my partitions ;-)06:05
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Xenguyjbmagic: how many Gb?06:05
jbmagic20gb06:05
intelikeyjbmagic / must be at least 1.8g for default install of ubuntu 5.1006:05
roostishawcan someone help me?06:05
Xenguyjbmagic: no worries for disk space, for sure06:05
ManticeHow can I have a multiboot system that boots OS's Off hard drives06:05
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Laoanother quick question is open office compatible with microsoft office? can I write a word doc in open office and then review it in microsoft office?06:05
roostishawhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post75554406:05
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jbmagicso swap should be double memory?06:05
roostishawhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post75554406:06
kookaburraabout that yes jbmagic06:06
intelikeyjbmagic how much mem ?06:06
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jbmagic128mb06:06
roostishawhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post75554406:06
roostishawhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post75554406:06
roostishawhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post75554406:06
roostishawhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post75554406:06
intelikeyyeah or three times.06:06
ManticeDont flood :S06:06
panzerlose grub what I do??06:06
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panzerlose grub what I do??06:06
XenguyLao: absolutely06:06
Laonice06:06
XenguyLao: get OOo v2.x06:06
XenguyLao: it's getting better06:07
dabaRpanzer: lose grub what I do!06:07
Laowhat is open offices version of power point?06:07
jbmagicintelikey 128mb06:07
BmurAnyone....   Why doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the files?06:07
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seth_oh`boyI didn't want to bother people in here, because I knew it would be full, but I just switched to Ubuntu and I can't use sudo or any root access when I installed ubuntu it didn't ask for a root password so I don't know is there a default for ubuntu or something...?06:07
intelikeyyeah or three times. <-- jbmagic06:07
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MadpilotLao: Impress06:07
Laoawesome, that will be very helpful =-)06:07
XenguyLao: dunno - OOo uses presentation software called 'Impress' (compatible with PP AFAIK)06:07
jbmagicintelikey and the rest of the 20gb goes to /root?06:07
dabaRpanzer: what did you do to lose grub?06:08
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ManticeI noticed that Ubuntu is feaken small 650 mb06:08
ManticeWhy!?06:08
seth_oh`boyUbuntu is starting to make my brain hurt.06:08
XenguyMantice: that's not a full install AFAIK06:09
panzerI lose grub as I recover it06:09
Laonow how do I add more programs I see that open office comes with the build (I installed the DVD version) but I can't tell what version I have or how to update if needed06:09
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intelikeyjbmagic if you are intent on dedicating 20g to ubuntu i'd make a /home and put 14g or so there.   possably even make a /var with about 4g06:09
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Xenguyseth_oh`boy: there is always sleeeeeeep :-)06:09
panzerI lose grub as I recover it06:09
MadpilotMantice: the ISO is highly compressed, if that's what you're looking at06:09
jbmagicintelikey will ubuntu ask me what size swap and .root when i install ubuntu?06:09
dabaRpanzer: as you recover what?06:09
IdleOneis it normal that xfce is asking for password on reboot?06:09
wastrelseth_oh`boy:  you can't use sudo?06:09
robotgeekIdleOne: yes06:09
crimsunIdleOne: yes06:09
seth_oh`boyNo I can't06:09
IdleOnecrimsun:  it didnt earlier06:09
intelikeyjbmagic if you choose to manually partition it will  yes.06:09
XenguyLao: do some research; you need synaptic (GUI) or apt-get (command-line)06:09
Madpilotseth_oh`boy: with sudo, you use your own user pw - the one Ubuntu asked you to create on install06:09
brad_teenbotmy sound isnt working, i have been trying to get it to work since ive installed it. Does anyone know how i get to the Ubuntu sound help room?06:09
chromedHi people! I am running dapper (coz I'm craaaaazy) on amd64 (its a i386 install though) and I think the NX bit protection is causing Wine to go BOOM! Anyone else seen this and know how to sort it out?06:10
XenguyIdleOne: yes06:10
crimsunbrad_teenbot: this is the room.06:10
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seth_oh`boyIt doesn't accept it.06:10
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wastrelseth_oh`boy:  you know that your user password is used for sudo, not the root password06:10
LiteHedded!sudo06:10
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:10
jbmagicintelikey so 500mb for /swap, /home 14gb and rest to /root?06:10
panzerhow recovery grub I dont know06:10
Madpilotseth_oh`boy: what happens when you try System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic?06:10
IdleOneXenguy:  I understand you guys are telling me it's normal but earlier when I rebooted it didnt ask for a password06:10
dabaRpanzer: read the pm from ubotu06:10
intelikeyjbmagic if you choose to manually partition it will  yes.   or should i say you will have control over the partitioning process.  it doesn't actually ask that question.06:10
wastrelseth_oh`boy:  the original user you created during the install should be able to use sudo06:10
Xenguyjbmagic: I thought you had 20Gb06:10
Laook, back to my books, thanks guys06:10
XenguyIdleOne: it's normal06:11
jbmagicxenguy yes06:11
intelikeyjbmagic looks like a good setup yeah06:11
panzerdabaR what??06:11
IdleOneok Ill take your word for it06:11
Xenguyjbmagic: that's only 14.5 above06:11
jbmagicintelikey thanks06:11
dabaRpanzer: look on your screen for "ubotu"06:11
panzerok06:11
jbmagicxenguy i said the rest to /roor :)06:11
pepsihrm, speaking of sudo06:11
jbmagicroot06:11
panzerthanks06:11
chromedAnyone seen problems with Wine?06:11
CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i reinstall a program06:11
Xenguyjbmagic: ahh06:11
CanYouHelpMePlzusing apt06:11
mordof_bleh.. having troubles with installing nvidia drivers :S06:11
jbmagicis a pentium 2 ok for ubuntu?06:12
XenguyCanYouHelpMePlz: man apt-get (there's an option for reinstall)06:12
jbmagicit an old system06:12
Manticelol pentiem to :)06:12
CanYouHelpMePlzXenguy: what option ..06:12
XenguyCanYouHelpMePlz: man apt-get06:12
ManticeCommand promt mode !!06:12
Mantice:)06:12
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wastrelsomeone should write a man howto06:12
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Xenguywastrel: man man06:12
intelikey!cli06:12
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org06:12
wastrelthat briefly explains the format of a man file, how to quit, how to search06:12
Xenguyman help06:12
wastrelXenguy:  someone who doesn't know how to read a man file won't get much out of that06:13
crimsunbrad_teenbot: you do realise that you need to provide a lot more info, correct?06:13
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dabaRjbmagic: yes it is.06:13
Xenguywastrel: you have to start somewhere :-)06:13
wastrelXenguy:  a man howto would be a good place06:13
Bmurintelikey:  Why doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the second drive.  ...but I had to do it as "root" even though the root account is disabled.06:13
Xenguywastrel: fine. man man works for me06:13
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Madpilotwastrel: see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands - which has a short two-paragraph intro to the man command06:14
chromedOK, different question, how do I disable NX bit protection?06:14
intelikeyBmur mount is always done by root.... ?06:14
wastrelMadpilot:  it's not for me, it's for all these people who are asking how to quit man06:14
Xenguywastrel: let them eat cake :P06:14
Madpilotwastrel: good point - I'm not sure that's mentioned in BasicCommands :P06:14
dabaRintelikey: if you have the user option set in fstab for a partition, normal users can use it too.06:14
jbmagicdabar it wont take long to compile on ubuntu with an old pent 2 system?06:15
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dabaRmount it rather06:15
chromedAll i need is World of Warcraft :(06:15
dabaRjbmagic: you do a lot of compiles?06:15
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intelikeyBmur if you have a listing in the /etc/fstab then the system mounts it for you (as root)  when you issue the mount command06:15
wastrelMadpilot:  actually yes it is mentioned :] 06:15
CanYouHelpMePlzwould sudo apt-get --reinstall libxpm4 work ?06:15
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jbmagicdabar not really just want o install apps when ubuntu is install? will i need to compile?06:15
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XenguyCanYouHelpMePlz: sounds about right06:15
kookaburrajbmagic, you really shouldn't have to compile much unless you write and compile your own programs.06:15
Franciscohello06:15
Franciscohello06:15
Franciscohelol06:15
Franciscohello06:16
jbmagickookaburra good news thanks06:16
Franciscohello06:16
Franciscohelllo06:16
Franciscohello06:16
robotgeek!ops06:16
ubotuHelp! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth06:16
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kookaburraubuntu installs from binary files, not source06:16
dabaRjbmagic: what do you use ubuntu for? for a server pentium 2 is great. for gnome, it will depend on the amount of memory, other desktops, like xfce are a better choice for under 256 RAM. I mean, try it out, then see.06:16
Franciscocan somebody help me==??06:16
kookaburrabinary is faster06:16
FranciscoI have some problems compiling"!!06:16
xpl0itI have just installed BitDefender...and when I type bdc --info or bdc /mnt/hda1 --all it says core initialization failed.  libfn failed bdc.06:16
dabaRrobotgeek: ask the person to stop first.06:16
benplautFrancisco: not after that outburst06:16
robotgeekFrancisco: why did you have to spam so much?06:16
robotgeekdabaR: sorry06:16
xpl0itI can type bdc (period) and continue to get the error libfn failed bdc.06:16
Xenguyrobotgeek: or simply slay them...06:16
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Franciscorobotgeek, I am Despertie06:16
jbmagicdabar i plan to use ubuntu as my second cpu. i will mainly use it for music,movies, internet and learnign linux06:17
benplautas are many06:17
CanYouHelpMePlzhmm doesn't work06:17
Bmurintelikey: k, it seems like it should be easier by default.  but I can't complain too much06:17
benplautwhat's your question?06:17
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CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i reinstall a package using apt....06:17
robotgeekFrancisco: you reminded my of a spam bot :)06:17
xpl0itapt-get install06:17
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intelikeydabaR try that on a system with / mounted nosuid  and see if users can mount.... it has to be root, whether through the systems fstab or through sudo or what ever.06:17
Xenguyxpl0it: reinstall06:17
kookaburrayou will have fun with it most likely jbmagic.06:17
jbmagicwhat does a server linux do, just curious?06:17
wastrelFrancisco:  we can't help you if we don't know what your problem is.  if you tell us, we may be able to help06:18
Madpilotjbmagic: the server install of Ubuntu? It's got no graphical desktop, just the command line - for running web servers & such06:18
intelikeyjbmagic you mean server install ?    it is without X    no gnome.06:18
Xenguyjbmagic: web server; ftp server; you name it, whatever services you want to offer06:18
dabaRFrancisco: what is wrong? post errors to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and tell us exactly what you are doing, and in one line, if possible.06:18
jbmagicno i mean using linux as a server only06:18
jbmagicwhat they mean by that06:19
dabaRjbmagic: it serves.06:19
kookaburraa server: A host computer on a network that holds information (eg, Web sites) and reponds to requests for information from it (eg, links to another Web page). The term server is also used to refer to the software that makes the act of serving information possible. Commerce servers, for example, use software to run the main functions of an e-commerce Web site, such as product display, online ordering, and inventory management. You'll06:19
kookaburraalso hear this described as "shopping cart technology. ...06:19
Xenguyjbmagic: ahh, minimal install, and no gui then06:19
jbmagici hear people say it alot but what does it serve?06:19
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Madpilotjbmagic: any website you look at is being "served" by a server - lots of them run Linux06:19
kookaburrascroll up to my last post jbmagic06:19
dabaRfor example, it holds your web page, serves as a router for your house network and a firewall, and stores all your important backups of files.06:19
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kookaburraA server is a computer that handles requests for data, email, file transfers, and other network services from other computers (ie, clients).06:19
brad_teenbotVarsendagger: are you awake tonight? i was wondering about what was going on with that labtop06:19
jbmagici see06:20
wastreljbmagic:  it's called a server because it provides a service06:20
Franciscowastrel, so, read to me. ... dabaR too pls.. I wanna know how to make programs in C and then have like a .exe [in windows]  I know that in ubuntu it can not be possible but I know that there is a similar."06:20
jbmagicmakes sense06:20
chromedGuyes, when I try to run winecfg06:20
Xenguyand it doesn't have a damn GUI ;-)06:20
chromedchrome@slick:~$ winecfg06:20
chromedKilled06:20
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chromedI get that06:20
chromedAnyone help?06:20
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wastrelFrancisco:  sudo apt-get install build-essential   then find a C programming tutorial06:20
intelikeyjbmagic like i said    the server install option on the install cd   means you install the base system  but no X.06:20
CanYouHelpMePlzI'M having a problem trying to install the LATEST xfce, it keeps telling me i need X pixmap Library, but i have it installed, and i have even reinstalled it can anyone help............ PLEASe06:20
Madpilot!tell Francisco about b-e06:21
jbmagicintelikey that will be kinda rough for me starting out06:21
jbmagici do the default install06:21
intelikeyyes it would....06:21
kookaburrayeah, you will be happier06:21
FranciscoI download the emacs 21 but I do not know how to use it.." and I read some about to compilation and then when I have the X.o I do not know what to do exactly.."06:21
dabaRCanYouHelpMePlz: you need to post a link to pastebin with the error, not that big sentence.06:21
Madpilotjbmagic: just do the default install, it'll give you a full desktop06:21
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Xenguyjbmagic: if you want a desktop, then install the regular desktop and watch Ubu shine :-)06:21
ManticeIs there a game emulator?06:21
jbmagicdamn i forgot, does a dvd player play well on a pentium 2? i forgot how well it does?06:22
CanYouHelpMePlzdabaR: i don't have an error, just the xfce installer says i need the libXpm.so file, but i don't know where it is06:22
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chromedFrancisco: Go buy a book called "The C Programming Language" by Kernigan and Richie. Look it up on Amazon.06:22
dabaRFrancisco: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html06:22
XenguyMantice: wine runs games; see frankscorner.org for example06:22
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ManticeHows Unbuntu With drivers?06:22
intelikeyjbmagic but if you can survive a comando install you will be ages ahead of the avrage ubuntu user in a month   :)06:22
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xpl0itbdc returns core initialization failed. libfn failed bdc.06:22
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xpl0itarg06:22
Franciscochromed, I know the programmation on C. but I do not know how to get the executable on my pc.."06:22
jbmagicintelikey true..but i do the default install and use the terminal alot , so i can be ahead06:23
intelikey:)06:23
XenguyMantice: pretty good, research in advance helps06:23
dabaRFrancisco: do you have build-essential installed?06:23
chromedFrancisco: "gcc -o hello helloworld.c" will com06:23
chromedpile the binary for you.06:23
FranciscodabaR, I thing so..06:23
chromedbut you really should use Google06:23
seth_oh`boy:(06:23
xpl0itAnyone use bitdefender?06:23
dabaRFrancisco: well, go make sure, that is the compiler package.06:24
EricNeonhi06:24
Xenguy!anyone06:24
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>06:24
jbmagici have an old second pc i am not using.. i better get some use of it by using ubuntu on it and share it will my dsl connection of my main window xp06:24
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jbmagici wish i did this a long time ago06:24
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chromedcan someone help me with my little wine problem please?06:24
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jbmagicchromed red or white :)06:24
chromedjbmagic: funny :(06:25
FranciscoNo se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)06:25
FranciscoW: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)06:25
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naliothFrancisco: please don't paste in here06:25
xpl0itDownloaded BitDefender via their website.  used dpkg -i to install... Typed bdc /mnt/hda1 --all and continue received:  core initialization failed. libfn failed bdc.06:25
Francisconalioth, it is for dabaR ...06:25
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naliothFrancisco: use a pastebin next time, please06:25
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xpl0itgoogled this prob but didn't see any answers.06:25
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Francisconalioth, ok..206:26
wastrelxpl0it:  was it a debian package or an ubuntu package?06:26
brad_teenbotis there any way i can set a screensaver on ubuntu??06:26
chadwick|359can anybody help me get Ekiga interfacing with msn/windows messenger, or give me the name of any program that it would be compatable with?06:26
kookaburraxpl0it, it seems like a dependency is not met that the prog needs.06:26
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dabaRFrancisco: comment that repository out that is giving you trouble, it is the plf one.06:26
romeoi am abou to download the latest version of amsn do i get tar or rpm for ubuntu?06:26
Xenguybrad_teenbot: xscreensaver06:26
romeorpm sorry06:26
kookaburraneither would be preferable romeo06:27
jbmagicromeo dont you just do an apt-get amsn?06:27
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wastrelwhat's ekiga06:27
ManticeAny one here recomend python06:27
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lisklanyone know how to output a specified line from a specified file to standard output for use in a bash shell?06:27
kookaburrayou really want to try the ubuntu repository first06:27
wastrelrecommend pythong for what?06:27
wastrelheh python06:27
intelikeyromeo .deb  if possable06:27
XenguyMantice: python is nice06:27
xpl0ithttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BitDefender followed the directions in this link.06:27
xpl0itbut still received the errors06:27
Manticefirst language to learn besides html ...06:27
brad_teenbotXenguy: whats that? sorry im still learning about ubuntu06:27
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intelikeyXenguy perl ?06:27
wastrelliskl:  head will do that - man head06:28
jbmagickookaburra i tought apt-get program name will get you the program you want06:28
Xenguybrad_teenbot: apt-cache show xscreensaver06:28
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seth_oh`boyDoes anybody know a good website where I can find information on how to setup a wireless lan connection in Ubuntu??06:28
intelikey!start a language war06:28
ubotuhindi is far more elegant than english06:28
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kookaburrathat's right06:28
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robotgeekseth_oh`boy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:28
Madpilot!wireless06:28
uboturumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:28
Xenguyintelikey: I like perl, and I like python :-)06:28
kookaburraapt-get install program06:28
romeowell does ubuntu have the latest version on it already06:28
seth_oh`boyThanks06:28
romeo/06:28
dabaRhahaha, that totally smells like razor-X that factoid.06:28
romeo?06:28
romeo?06:28
jbmagickookaburra so no need to get .rpm, tar, .deb, etc right?06:28
chromeCan someone please tell me, does Ubuntu use Exec Shield?!06:28
MadpilotdabaR: which one?06:28
_jasonliskl: sed -n 1p /path/to/file, change 1 to the line number you want.  That's what I know06:29
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kookaburrado you have synaptic installed romeo. it's a gui for installing programs the easy  way06:29
dabaRMadpilot: see last ubotu post06:29
xpl0itAny virus detection scanning software (free of course) out there?06:29
kookaburrapoint click06:29
xpl0itBitdefender seems to be hosed...06:29
intelikeyXenguy we are offtopic but maybe i wont get kicked for this,  i really dont know anything but bash; and i'm not sure i should say i "know" bash....06:29
stephen__does anyone know a reason what could cause audio and video to be choppy on a new installation?06:29
MadpilotdabaR: the wireless one? "rumour has it" is one of the bot's standard lines, I think06:29
Xenguykookaburra: installed by default in most cases06:29
dabaRMadpilot: sorry, one before that.06:29
foov2i am using bluetooth for php and js development; any other suggestions?  tia06:29
romeosynaptic i l have to check06:29
Xenguyintelikey: they're all good, and can be learned a bit at a time06:29
wastrelliskl:  actually you'll have to use head & tail...  each only does half the job :] 06:30
romeoshould be here somewhere right06:30
kookaburrashould be under system-tools06:30
MadpilotdabaR: heh, the language war one, might be :P06:30
foov2sorry, lol, bluefish06:30
romeoi ll check for synaptec06:30
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Madpilotromeo: System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic Package Manager06:30
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brad_teenbotAm i able to put an image on ubuntu as a background??06:31
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Madpilotbrad_teenbot: desktop wallpaper? sure - right click on the desktop, choose "Change Desktop Background"06:32
wastrelsigh06:32
jbmagicso no need to get .rpm, tar, .deb, etc right? just use apt-get install program name?06:32
kookaburrai never keep the default theme as my main theme.06:32
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intelikeyjbmagic correct06:32
jbmagiccool06:32
wastreldon't be sad06:32
Madpilotjbmagic: yes, or use Synaptic if you prefer a GUI06:33
awrI'm speak in portuguese06:33
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brad_teenbotok thanks Madpilot06:33
jbmagicso after ubuntu is install , enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. anything else i need to do?06:33
Xenguyjbmagic: although apt-get can be mighty handy when you are installing software on a remote host :-)06:33
awrsomebody speak portuguese?06:33
Xenguyjbmagic: kiss yer wind0ze goodbye :P06:34
cradek!pt06:34
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.06:34
jbmagicXenguy lol06:34
awrcradek,  thanks06:34
cradekwelcome06:34
jbmagicwhat the best cd ripper to get and best dvd ripper to get?06:34
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intelikeyjbmagic the gui frontend for dpkg is 'synaptic'   two cli frontends are  apt and aptitude   apt includes apt-get apt-cache apt-config and so on.....  where as aptitude is an ncruses interactive frontend      err i think ncurses....06:34
cradekyou can just go to that directory and see if you can insert the module06:34
Madpilotjbmagic: for ripping audio, ubuntu has SoundJuicer installed by default, it works nicely06:35
kookaburrathere's gnomebaker. it burns pretty good06:35
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FranciscodabaR, I need that you help me!!06:35
jbmagicintelikey thanks06:35
tga1to install .otf fonts do I just copy them to ~/.fonts?06:35
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intelikeyjbmagic you can search with any of those afore mentioned apps06:36
Mordofquestion: Do the NVIDIA drivers downloaded from nvidia.com for IA32 work in dapper??06:36
dabaRFrancisco: how would I do that?06:36
lisklusing head i can get a range of lines using -n  starting from the start of file06:36
lisklusing tail i can get a range of lines using -n starting reversed from EOF06:36
liskli'm looking for a way to get only line 57 from file horse.txt, or line 83 from cow.txt06:36
Mordofive tried installing them several times and i get a failed to load module error06:36
wastrelhowcome nobody ever mentions dselect06:36
brad_teenbotAm i able to leave my PC on ubuntu 24/7? without any problems?06:36
wastreli spent a lot of hours in dselect back in the day06:36
cradekliskl: head ... | tail ...06:36
crimsunwastrel: because most people will not have struggled with it like we have.06:36
Arafangi1nHow do simpress presentations work on laptops?06:36
wastrelhmm maybe that's why nobody mentions it :] 06:36
dabaRbrad_teenbot: does it do anything while it is on, or just leave it on?06:36
intelikeybrad_teenbot no.  your light bill will go up.....06:36
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jbmagicgnomebaker burns everything well. like backup dvd that i own?06:37
romeook i found synpatic but it won t let update amsn06:37
RaoulDukeamsn kinda sucks06:37
wastrelliskl:  head -n 57 | tail -n 106:37
RaoulDuketry gaim :)06:37
jbmagicromeo do apt-get install amsn06:37
kookaburrafor like what? backing up your music files, pictures etc?06:37
MordofAnyone know?06:38
brad_teenbotintelikey, haha very funny lol06:38
kookaburraif that is what you mean then yes.06:38
wastrelliskl:  er,  head -n 57 horse.txt | tail -n 106:38
jbmagickookaburra like dvd movies i own06:38
jbmagicand cd i own06:38
Franciscomy pc does not play .wmv, I have downloas the gstream xine, of totem, VLC, Real player, Mplayer and I have not done that it works..06:38
dabaRliskl: get first 57 lines as intermediate result, then get the last only line of the intermediate result.06:38
romeosoory i should say amsn is instaled i want to update it06:38
jbmagicif install it should be the latest version06:38
Madpilot!tell Francisco about w32codecs06:38
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dabaRwastrel: >:(06:38
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romeoand while i m at it i would also like to update firefox06:38
lisklthanks everyone06:38
kookaburraFrancisco, you need to install the win32codecs06:38
FranciscoMadpilot, I have done..06:38
RaoulDukeme too on firefox06:38
wastreldabaR:  sry :] 06:39
Icemansucks, seems my ubuntu system crashed fatal today ...06:39
Mordofgrr, wish Tomi- was here!06:39
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jbmagicwhat the command to update apps you have06:39
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cradekI think so06:39
kookaburraapt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade06:39
rjcutehi06:39
Icemannot the operating system, the motherboard seems to have failed ...06:39
kiruhi06:39
kiruhello06:39
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RaoulDuke@ ice... get a lanparty mobo06:39
RaoulDukewont break06:39
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intelikeyjbmagic latest.... well no.   but latest stable at the time of release of the disrot i.e 10/2005 for breezy06:40
jbmagicromeo just use the update command06:40
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rjcutefd06:40
romeoypu mean in firefox?06:40
IcemanRaoulDuke had a Abit k8v pro ... 64 bit ... socket 754 system ...06:40
FranciscoI have done it. and It do not works.."06:40
jbmagicintelikey i tought you can update the distro ubuntu and dont need to downlaod the iso again?06:40
romeoit just says it s updated06:40
rjcutehello to all fuckersssssssssssssssssss06:40
RaoulDuke64 is for the win :)06:40
romeobit its only 1,0706:40
jbmagicromeo do apt-get update firefox06:40
rjcutewew06:40
RaoulDukeDFI Lanparty mobos are the best in industry IMHO06:40
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rjcutert06:41
RaoulDukethey support 75406:41
rjcutert06:41
lividhello06:41
RaoulDukeas well as 93906:41
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Mordof!tell Francisco about RestrictedFormats06:41
lividwhat is the default root password on ubuntu?06:41
rjcutere06:41
rjcuteer06:41
romeoyou mean in conmmand?06:41
GTroyany way to reset/restart the screesaver app?06:41
RaoulDukeroot is disabled lol06:41
jbmagicromeo yes06:41
IcemanRaoulDuke All i get is post code ... will not boot ...06:41
rjcutewat06:41
RaoulDukedoes it beep ice?06:41
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romeook06:41
dabaRrjcute: hello back. now stop06:41
MordofFrancisco: if w32codecs does not solve it, those should06:41
wastrelGTroy:  xscreensaver?   there's an option in the configurator to restart it  check the menu06:41
RaoulDukeu can get handy diagnostic info from that06:41
IcemanRaoulDuke yes ...06:41
lividRaaulDuke, yea...I know it is disabled...how do you turn it on?06:41
GTroywastrel: thanks06:41
RaoulDukehow many times?06:42
kookaburrajbmagic, you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade06:42
FranciscoMordof, ok I will try it06:42
ManticeWhats the difference between 64 bit build and the normal intel 32 bit build???06:42
RaoulDuke..... @ livid ... you cant use SUDO06:42
internetiI have installed e17, and I am unable to log in, I get this eror06:42
intelikeyjbmagic you can upgrade the release to the next release (dapper in may)  but the packages will only update security updates and bug fixes between releases.06:42
IcemanRaoulDuke 1 long think it was 3 short06:42
jbmagicif the distro ubunto version change..will i need to download the iso again and install the distro again?06:42
rjcuteyeah06:42
RaoulDukehmmm happend to me (mobo) go to your brand mobo website06:42
romeook06:42
internetiI am told to edit the xinitrc.....06:42
RaoulDukeand look up their 'beep codes'06:42
kookaburrascroll up to my last post jbmagic06:42
Mantice;/06:42
lividRaoulDuke, I tried using sudo and my password when it asks for admin password and it fails06:42
whatwhatim stupid or what? or my 142 qi is not good ... to install the java plugin in linux whith firefox?06:42
IcemanRaoulDike not yet ... thats next ...06:42
internetiso I was wondring if anyone could help06:43
whatwhatgrrrrrrrrrrr06:43
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Madpilotlivid: did you do a standard install of Ubuntu?06:43
ManticeWith ubuntu does it auto update so I allways have the latestest and gratest version :)06:43
jbmagickookaburra thanks06:43
dabaRjbmagic: no, you will not.06:43
lividMadpilot, yes...06:43
IcemanRaoulDike i want to cry. lose a 64 bit box ... ;(06:43
RaoulDukecould just be dead RAM or bios ice06:43
intelikeyjbmagic if the distro....and install the distro again?   no.  distro upgrade.06:43
RaoulDukei feel ur pain i had a new laptop's mobo died. 900 quid down the drain06:43
rjcutesend me06:44
jbmagicdabar yep i saw kookaburra instuction on how to update distro06:44
ManticeHow do you upgrade the distro?06:44
IcemanRaoulDike not the ram, it's in this winblows system now and stable ..06:44
ManticeIs there some kind of icon or somthing06:44
lividMadpilot, any ideas?06:44
RaoulDukehmmmmmm how odd!06:44
jbmagicmantice look at kookaburra post above06:44
internetiso there is not a single person here capable of helping me?06:44
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dabaRMantice: you change the name of the repository you install packages from, and run an upgrade command.06:44
jbmagicMantice you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade06:44
RaoulDukesorry interneti whats ur prob again?06:44
IcemanRaoulDike got to look at bios ... and read on the post code ..06:44
lividhrmm..06:44
internetie17 gives me an error and I was advised to edit xinitrc06:45
rjcutesend me the system06:45
RaoulDukeif its booting into windowz its POST is fine.06:45
lividRaoulDuke, sudo seems like it isn't accepting my password06:45
Madpilotlivid: it should have worked - using the password you entered during setup when Ubuntu asks for one06:45
rjcutefast06:45
RaoulDuke.... hmm im not sure thats never happend to me before06:45
jbmagici remember a while back when mandrake update there distro, you had to download the iso and install mandrake again. i hated that06:45
lividMadpilot, yes...I am aware it should have ;) heheh06:45
IcemanRaoulDike im on a p4 system now, to read on the mobo ...06:45
RaoulDukeahhhhhhhhhhh06:45
RaoulDukehaha sorry misunderstood06:45
pgavini have a problem with dhcp...  my ISP has assigned me an IP that dhcp should be getting, but its getting some other IP.  If I boot some other OS, dhcp gets that IP just fine06:45
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lividanyway...I am going to futz around with it...06:46
IcemanRaoulDike 64 will not boot ...06:46
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pgavinanyone know why that would happen?06:46
FranciscoMordof, tell me something about ."" wmv files encoded with DRM are not playable by the codecs...06:46
lividnot having a network connection06:46
lividnot good06:46
intelikeyjbmagic but as far as getting the latest version of blah between distro upgrades....  not how it works....   and why would a release that is less than 6 months old be so bad anyway ?   surely that is fresh enough for anything...06:46
RaoulDukedo you have any post information ice?06:46
RaoulDukeset your bios to show the full bootup screen06:46
MordofFrancisco: that means its protected afaik, you can't play protected media in linux.. not allowed06:46
internetiRaoulDuke is there a possibility you could help?06:46
ManticeYou should have never endoded in DRM = Microsoft = Bad = Copyprotection........06:46
dabaRrjcute: please stop sending messages when you do not have anything to say.06:46
Madpilotlivid: no idea, but if you did a standard install & are using your user pw, you should be OK - you're using the original user you set up on install?06:46
MordofFrancisco: you would need to download a license to view it, and downloading licenses does not work in linux06:46
RaoulDukesorry interneti dude, im not sure :$06:46
IcemanRaoulDike cant get a post screen ...06:46
rjcuteok06:47
RaoulDukemmmm sounds like its really screwed06:47
whatwhatis necassary install ... java whith root ? to can run the java plugin in firefox ?06:47
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jbmagicintelikey i am just glad with ubuntu, there no need to install the distro over agin by getting the new version .iso of the distro...glad you can just use the command to update06:47
ManticeI wonder why it doesnt work in linux ;) Gates makes every thing work LOL06:47
RaoulDukei know this sounds silly but go step by step, check your PSU then RAM and CPU conns. and then the BIOS chip itself06:47
FranciscoMordof, ok ok. I get it... I can see it but not heat it..06:47
IcemanRaoulDike reading on it now, got to find a post code listing ... :(06:47
RichART1is TokenBad here?06:47
internetianyone here have any Idea what I could do to fix this crap????????????????06:47
MordofMantice: only way to do it would be to work around it.. in that case, playing them is highly illegal, and linux could be taken down for it06:47
wastrelintelikey:  can you paste the error at this website: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org   and give us the link?06:47
RaoulDukemmm once youve got that it will help06:48
MordofMantice: there is a thin line for playing media and other stuff that linux can't cross, or it could be bad06:48
RichART1::TokenBad:: ?06:48
intelikeywastrel no i can not   ???????06:48
dabaRwhatwhat: did you read the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats wiki page?06:48
Madpilot!tell whatwhat about java06:48
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RaoulDuke@ mordo .... i think its up to the user to cross that line06:48
wastrelintelikey:  did you write down the error?  what does it say you should do with xinitrc06:48
Icemandang cant find a beep code listing06:49
RaoulDukeubu has done it well, dont ship it,but leave it to the user06:49
MordofRaoulDuke: not when it comes to copy protection, granted they have mp3 support n stuff.. but copy protection is just asking for a lawsuit06:49
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whatwhatdabaR i just try :\ ok i will check it06:49
RaoulDukethats true..06:49
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RichART1k, i just wanna kno 1 thing: how does one UNinstall ubuntu?? I don't have enuff hdd space 4 it06:49
RaoulDukeUSE THE LIVE CD LOL06:49
RaoulDukeheheh06:49
MordofRaoulDuke: the only way to avoid conflicts is by grabbing the license from microsoft.com, and microsoft checks for windows :P06:49
MadpilotRaoulDuke: you don't need to use @ to begin lines, and it helps if you use the full nickname06:49
intelikeywastrel you smoking crack or something ?     please address your questions to whom they concern   :)06:49
RaoulDukemmmm shit yeah i hadnt thought of that06:49
RichART1use the liveCD 2 uninstall?06:49
rjcuteguys my pc is logging06:49
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jbmagicwhy does other distro make you get the new updated version of there distro when ever it comes out and you have to download the iso again and install over.   i glad UBuntu is not like that. just a simple command to use06:50
RaoulDukesorry old old habbits :D06:50
wastrelintelikey:  sry it's scrolling pretty fast in here :] 06:50
RichART1is anyone answering me?06:50
intelikeywastrel it's ok i stand under you......06:50
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  you may be better off doing a reisntall howeger when the next version comes out.06:50
wastrelinterneti:    did you write down the error?  what does it say you should do with xinitrc06:50
_jasonRichART1: use the install cd to install06:50
jbmagicDr_Willis why is that?06:50
RaoulDukeICE you there dude?06:50
RichART1no _jason; to UNinstall06:51
RichART1i wanna take it out!06:51
brad_teenbotThanks everyone for your help06:51
_jasonRichART1: what do you use? windows?06:51
ManticeWhats the difference between the Unbuntu 64 bit and the 32 bitversion06:51
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  when EVERYTHING gets updated at once.. :P it can be.. well finicky.. theres always seems to be people comming in here with 'issues' when upgrading from one relase to another.06:51
RichART1::_jason:: yeah, xp pro06:51
odlais totem being unable to play dvds in dapper a known problem?  i.e. it gives the following error  'no reason'06:51
_jasonMantice: 32 bits :)06:51
rjcutesend me a new system06:51
ManticeLOL06:51
Manticeyeah06:51
RaoulDukeme too rofl06:51
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  i just keep home on a seperate partition. and then reinstall with every new release.06:51
rjcutew06:52
Manticeok you win06:52
malvanyone know of any website that show how to write really fast c++ code?06:52
chameleonanyone know the best distro that is sucure and fast06:52
intelikeyRichART1 use xp to reclaim the 'now linux' partition  and fix your mbr06:52
jbmagicDr_Willis ok i see..  will i lose what i have already isntall?06:52
chameleonmaby a sever distro06:52
malvand how to avoid common efficiency pitfals06:52
RaoulDukemalv heheh i have same problem06:52
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Dr_Willisjbmagic,  proberly. but its fairly trivial to reinstall the stuff.06:52
Dr_Willis:P06:52
Manticenah but seareasly all packages from, and run an upgrade command.06:52
Mantice<jbmagic> Mantice you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade06:52
RichART1::_jason:: how do i do that?06:52
Manticelol06:52
ManticeSorry06:52
malvi have the feeling I am writing really slow code06:52
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RichART1::_jason:: sorry, i'm a total newb @ this stuff06:52
ManticeI pasted shit06:52
chameleonanyone know06:52
_jasonMantice: some stuff isn't avaible for 64bit yet, like flash for instance.  That's probably the biggest difference other than the fact that one is 64bit and the other is 32bit06:52
jbmagicDr_Willis so anything in the /home partion wont get lost.?06:53
Dr_Willischameleon,  you are being rather vague. :P06:53
chameleonsorry06:53
wastrelmalv:  #c++ maybe?06:53
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  if you have /home on its own partition - you can chose to not reformat it.06:53
chameleoni just thought not one seen me06:53
RaoulDukewell ciao guys, got a lecture.06:53
RichART1::_jason:: oh, & anutha thing, its not fully installed in the 1st place coz i didnt have enuff hdd space, k?06:53
malvwastrel, yea, sorry I was pasting into the wrong channel06:53
malvheh06:53
jbmagicDr_Willis is /home where the apps gets install too?06:53
_jasonRichART1: boot a livecd and use gparted to delete the linux partitions, then make new ones for whatever you want, boot with the windows install disk and fixmbr06:53
chameleonand see still no anser06:53
ManticeIs there such thing as Gaming on linux?06:54
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  nope.06:54
ManticeI guess it would be open source so it will be free :)06:54
FujitsuMantice, ?06:54
RichART1::_jason:: k, thx alot frend06:54
_jasonchameleon: wine is in the repositories06:54
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  /home is where the users keep their stuff.06:54
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intelikeymalv faster code is not always better code, but normally it is.   if you have a string that you think needs optimised you should take it to a language specific channel   i.e.  #perl06:54
jbmagicdr Willis thanks06:54
Dr_WillisMantice,   i play all sorts of games..06:54
MadpilotMantice: there are both open-source and close-source games for Linux - Enemy Territory has a Linux version, for example06:54
_jasonRichART1: if I were you, I would delete windows and make room for ubuntu :)06:54
Dr_Willis"Puzzle Pirates" works under Linux as well.06:55
Dr_Willis:P06:55
Mantice:)06:55
ManticeI played somthing Chess in linux06:55
wastrelnethack06:55
ManticeFedora06:55
jbmagicDr_Willis i guess it wont be so bad to download a new .iso version of ubantu when it ever comes out and reinstall the apps  over again06:55
ManticeGU06:55
Manticeor somthing06:55
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lampshadeAnyone do circuit simulation?06:55
RichART1i'm afraid too coz of my windows programs (favorites mind you) that won't work anymore06:55
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  i look it as a every 6 mo 'house' cleaning. :P06:55
ManticeYeah Im going to have to kill my self06:55
chameleonany one point me to the right distro to run a sever on ?06:55
ManticemIRC = friend06:56
RichART1::_jason:: and of deleted something very necessary....like drivers N shit06:56
Dr_WillismIRC = Crud.06:56
Dr_Willis:P06:56
intelikeylampshade  ?06:56
ManticemIRC = Crud06:56
Mantice~_~06:56
intelikeyoh no sorry lampshade06:56
Dr_Willisxchat = good.06:56
IdleOnemirc=could of been a beautiful linux client06:56
dabaRyou are all doing assignments, which are always true.06:56
_jasonRichART1: there are usually good alternatives available, but I understand it would be difficult to get rid of windows altogether.  You can't spare 2GB?06:56
jbmagicDr_Willis is that how often a new version of ubantu come out06:56
hadido I have gdesklet package deb?06:56
Dr_Willismirc = creeping feature obsession. :P06:56
wastrelDr_Willis:  i dist-upgraded warty->hoary->breezy with minimal problems06:56
RichART1::_jason:: and if i knew more about what i was doing I cud afford 2 make a braver move like that!06:56
intelikey!start a irc war06:56
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey06:56
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  new release every 6mo.06:56
whatwhatdabaR i can now it works very thanks :p no the way you tell to me but it works now thanks :p thet problema was i try to install not from root or use the fakeroot but install it only whith one acount ... single very thanks06:56
intelikey!start a client war06:57
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey06:57
RichART1::_jason:: i've got 4gigs free06:57
Dr_Williswastrel,  :P and how many peopel ya see in here every day that have 'issues' :P06:57
_jasonRichART1: you only need 2 for ubuntu06:57
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Dr_Willisbut onepersons minimal problem.. could be anothers BIG problem.06:57
RichART1really?06:57
_jasonRichART1: that's what it says on the install disk06:57
MadpilotRichART1: a standard isntall of Ubuntu is around 1.8Gb06:57
Madpilotinstall, even...06:57
RichART1really?06:57
jbmagicwhen was the date of ubantu last update?06:57
RichART1damn06:58
RichART1ok, i'll try again w/ the install06:58
ManticeI wonder if I could convert my school to go with linux06:58
RichART1see u guys in a few then06:58
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_jasonRichART1: make sure you have 4gb of free space so the partitioner can do its thing06:58
Madpilotjbmagic: October 2005 - next version is due out mid-April/0606:58
jbmagicok thanks06:58
jessyhello06:59
intelikey_jason ? 4 for 2  ?06:59
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RichART1::CPU:: 1-Intel Pentium M processor 1.80GHz, 899MHz, 0KB (70% Load) .:. ::RAM:: usage: 676/1024MB (66.02%) .:. ::GFX:: MOBILITY RADEON 9000, ::Display:: 1400x1050/32bit/60Hz06:59
RichART1::OS:: Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600), ::installed for:: 4w 2d 6h 35m, ::uptime:: 2h 35m .:. ::HDDs:: 4.84GB/33.0GB(14.6%) free06:59
ManticeOmg Obliven comes out on windows ... in may 30th06:59
jessysomeone here is using eclipse ?06:59
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  "dapper" is the next relsase due out in like 2 mo.06:59
RichART1there, that's what i have currently06:59
odlaanyone else having problems with totem playing movies on dapper?06:59
RichART1see it?06:59
lividhrmm...for some reason it liked my password this time06:59
Dr_Willisjbmagic,  the 'version' number - is the date of release I belive.06:59
lividso, the default install of ubuntu doesn't have gcc?06:59
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Dr_Willislivid,  it can be easially installed later.06:59
MadpilotRichART1: with those hardware specs, you shouldn't have trouble running Ubuntu06:59
RichART1ok, i'm going for it then!07:00
RichART1thx 4 the vote of confidence07:00
lividDr_Willis, yea...but it seems like there should be at least some sort of c compiler installed07:00
Dr_Willislivid,  not really :P07:00
RichART1cya inna few07:00
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lividDr_Willis, yea really :P07:00
Dr_Willislivid,  with that logic - ubuntu would come on 2+ CD's07:00
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Dr_Willislivid,  apt-get install build-essential  there ya go.07:00
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cobra_alguem poderia me ajudar ..07:00
RichART1wait, gotta finish hacking this porn site 1st - LOL07:01
jbmagicfor partition best to have only /home, / and /swap?07:01
intelikeylivid  the standard ubuntu argument is 'anyone that can use gcc knows how to install gcc'07:01
wastreli think the idea is, if you can operate gcc, you should be able to figure out how to istall it07:01
cobra_estou instalando uma wireless dwl 520 ...07:01
cobra_ja carreguei o modulo acx_pci07:01
Dr_Willislivid,  why not comal, an forth, and so on and so on.. and emacs. and tex. and ... ect.. its kept to a minimum  for a reason.07:01
lividDr_Willis, well, inserting a second cd is much quicker then finding/installing all of these things...I agree I like it on one disk, but lets keep to it 1 dvd. ;)07:01
dabaR!es07:01
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:01
cobra_mais o tal do wlan nao esta carregando ..07:01
Madpilotjbmagic: swap isn't really needed, depending on how much ram yo've got07:01
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wastrelthat's portugese07:01
Madpilot!pt07:01
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.07:01
cobra_ok !07:01
Dr_Willislivid,  of corse the problem with all the packages ondisk.. is that often they get updated so fast..  you end up downloading them anyway07:02
lividDr_Willis, I understand, and I like that in many ways, but there is something nice about having some basic apps installed.07:02
jetscreamer!br07:02
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.07:02
lividDr_Willis, Gaim is installed...and it is super lame :)07:02
Razor-XDr_Willis: Not everyone has an internet connection waiting for them.07:02
Dr_Willislivid,  i just keep a little script that apt-get installs the stuff i need.. and i back it up. and rerun it on a clean install. :P07:02
lividDr_willis, yea...I suppose so. but you can update them more leisurely ;)07:02
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wastrel<3 gaim.  livid is a meanie  /me cries07:02
Dr_Willisheh heh07:03
Razor-Xwastrel: ......07:03
Dr_WillisNow look! you hurt his feelings!07:03
Dr_Willis:P07:03
Arafangi1nDoes anybody use OpenOffice.org for overhead presentations? (On linux - how do they do it?)  I want to use it such that I have the program on my laptop, but the actual presentation on the overhead projector.07:03
Razor-XIf you want to get passionate about your IM client of choice, I suggest you go to #ubuntu-offtopic.07:03
lividRazor-x, exactly...07:03
vladuz976i am trying to compile a library for enlightenment 17 i am getting this error "undefined macro AC_DEFINE AC_MSG_ERROR" what does that mean? anybody here who can help?07:03
lividRazor-X, hehe...;)07:03
intelikeylivid "some basic"  like bash grep less cut mount.... `ls /*bin`   ?07:03
wastrelArafangi1n:  does your video-out port work?07:03
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Arafangi1nwastrel: I do not have video-out07:04
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wastrelArafangi1n:  so the computer that is running the projector will not be your laptop?07:04
jsestri2hi, I'm trying to install Dapper Flight 4, and it would appear the it does not have the ability to detect an onboard network device...any ideas?07:04
Arafangi1nwastrel: It will be.07:04
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Razor-Xvladuz976: Not too sure, but I'm assuming that the source is missing a #define. Which basically means, you're either missing a library, or your source is corupt for some reason.07:04
ALL4Nhey07:04
lividintelikey, yes. I understand about /*bin. thanks.07:04
Arafangi1nwastrel: I have VGA out.07:04
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wastrelArafangi1n:  your vga port works then07:04
Arafangi1nwastrel: Yes07:05
Razor-XJestre: What's the output of ``lspci -v'' in pastebin?07:05
wastrelArafangi1n:  openoffice impress works very much like powerpoint.07:05
grafthellzo... has anyone ever had issues with NETDEV WATCHDOG?07:05
jsestri2Razor-X: are you talking to me?07:05
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ALL4NI've managed to delete the original sudoer here, (I created a new one, and checked the administrative tasks in user options) and now I'm not able to do administrative tasks07:05
Arafangi1nwastrel: I actually don't use powerpoint.07:05
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intelikeylivid no. i'm just asking why you feel that not installing gcc by default is "somehow less than a working linux" system ?07:06
wastrelArafangi1n:  neither do i :] 07:06
cafuegoArafangi1n: if you need the external vga to work, check out MergedFB. (google)07:06
jsestri2Razor-X: how do i run that command, I can't even install the os...07:06
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ALL4Ndon't ask why, since I checked that the new user can do administrative tasks07:06
_jasonALL4N: did you delete the original sudo user or the original sudoers file?07:06
ALL4N_jason, I created a new user07:06
ManticeI was about to buy a 300 $ lap top 1.7 ghz but parents said no and its my own money!!!07:06
cafuegoArafangi1n: Though on most of my machines, if i boot with the projector plugged in, X is mirrored.07:06
wastrelArafangi1n:  do you need to compose the presentation?  or do you already have it in a different format07:06
ALL4N_jason, and then deleted the old sudoer using the new user07:06
Razor-XJestre: Oh! Meh!07:06
MadpilotMantice: so move out :P07:06
ALL4Nsomehow, the new user is no sudoer07:06
Razor-XJestre: It refuses to install due to the network issue?07:06
_jasonALL4N: paste the output of the 'groups' command07:07
Arafangi1ncafuego: That's interesting, I'll have to test that.07:07
jsestri2Razor-X: should i just skip that step? and fix it after install?07:07
Razor-XMantice: That's quite typical of my parents.07:07
Razor-Xjsestri2: Yeah.07:07
Arafangi1ncafuego: But I was hoping more of a Desktop on screen0, and the actual presentation on screen1, which is controlled by ooimpress2 on screen007:07
lividgod, quit talking about your parents ruling your lives, you are making me feel old :P07:07
Arafangi1ncafuego: If that makes sense?07:07
jsestri2Matice: that sucks, where were you buying it from...link? hah07:07
Arafangi1nwastrel: Assume I already have a presentation composed.07:07
Razor-Xjsestri2: You can always try and compile a kernel module. But, I suggest you also be running Breezy.07:07
Arafangi1nwastrel: I want to SHOW it.07:07
cafuegoArafangi1n: It makes sense, but i think you may be SOL.07:07
amphilivid: you are07:07
Arafangi1ncafuego: Windows and Mac do this fine.07:08
lividamphi, heh. and how do you know that?07:08
jsestri2Razor-X: jesus, im a dope, i already have that working, i should be able to run that command that way...jeez07:08
Razor-Xjsestri2: Meh. 's fine.07:08
amphilivid: standard MO, jumping to conclusions ;)07:08
wastrelArafangi1n:  dual monitor setup like that requires xinerama i believe07:08
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Arafangi1nwastrel: Ok.07:08
lividamphi, ;) I am only 26 :P07:08
jsestri2Razor-X: I was told that i need to get into Dapper though so that i can use sound. Breezy is apparently incompatable with my onboard audio.07:08
intelikeyamphi livid's not old.....07:09
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jsestri2Razor-X so run that command and pastebin it here?07:09
cafuegoArafangi1n: it's not something that X makes particularly easy or intuitive.07:09
amphiArafangi1n: or mergeFB perhaps07:09
wastrelArafangi1n:  the way i did it was just to mirror the display, controlling the presentation from my laptop with keyboard commands07:09
Razor-Xjsestri2: Dapper, at this point in time, is a little bit on the unstable side. So, caveat emptor.07:09
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Razor-Xjsestri2: It would help, ja.07:09
lividintelikey, you tell him. :P07:09
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jsestri2Razor-X be abck in a bit07:09
graftgoo... does anyone have any insights about this? my damn wireless card keeps switching access points because of "NETDEV WATCHDOG"07:09
Arafangi1ncafuego: Today (Fortunately I haven't actually had to do presentations yet), my laptop reverted from doing cloned mode to strict one-monitor mode - perhaps it's to do with the second monitor being plugged in :(07:09
graftwhich bites... anyone ever had to deal with this?07:10
odlacan someone help me with some dvd problems i'm having.  i can't seem to use the dvd player but i've got libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed...am i missing something else?07:10
amphistrewth, consider me told - I didn't realise this was #gerontophobia ;)07:10
graftodla: um, a movie player?07:10
odlagraft: i've tried totem and xine07:10
graftand they say?07:10
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intelikeyamphi lol07:11
odlatotem says 'no reason' and xine tells me that either i don't have proper permissions or that i'm missing a plugin07:11
jetscreamerodla: sometimes there is no /dev/dvd symlink to /dev/hdwhatever07:11
wastrelgraft:  i had that problem, was advised to start the card driver with associate=0  argument07:11
jetscreamerodla: there is xine-check07:11
ALL4N_jason, allan adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin07:11
graftwastrel: err, who what now?07:12
_jasonALL4N: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?07:12
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wastrelgraft:  wifi07:12
ALL4N_jason, nothing07:12
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ALL4Njust a new line07:12
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odlajetscreamer: thanks...i just fixed it07:12
graftwastrel: i mean... how do i start the card driver with said argument?07:12
jetscreamerhow07:12
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thelsdjis there some magic way to get totem-gstreamer to play dvds that i'm missing or is that just broken?07:13
thelsdj(in dapper)07:13
Razor-XMind me if I become a tad bit... inattentive, because I'm not very used to irssi as my main client.07:13
_jasonALL4N: have you logged out and back in yet?07:13
graftwastrel: err, nm maybe i got it07:13
wastrelgraft:  you can do it with modprobe or put it in /etc/modules.conf   what is your card driver?07:13
jetscreamerthelsdj: ask odla :)07:13
graftwastrel: orinoco_pci... not sure it takes such arguments07:13
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wastrelyeah it depends on the driver07:14
ALL4N_jason, after deleting the original sudoer?07:14
_jasonALL4N: sure07:14
thelsdjjetscreamer: i got one of those07:14
ALL4NI can try07:14
_jasonALL4N: k07:14
thelsdjjetscreamer: /dev/dvd points to /dev/hdc07:15
ALL4NI think  I did07:15
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wastrelsomeone had this problem yesterday, with sudoers07:15
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_jasonALL4N: you probably did, I just want to rule that out before the next thing I suggest...07:15
thelsdjodla: how did you fix it?07:15
wastrelthey were messing around with /etc/group and removed themelf from the admin group07:15
LinuxTitananyone know where I can download libxine-dev(xine-lib-1.1.1)?07:15
Razor-XLinuxTitan: Why're ya asking?07:15
intelikey_jason which is ?    boot to single ?07:15
_jasonintelikey: boot to recovery and look at /etc/sudoers07:16
LinuxTitanRazor-X, so I can download it?07:16
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Razor-XLinuxTitan: Well, you must have a reason for using the libs. To compile an app?07:16
LinuxTitanyes.07:17
LinuxTitanbut I'm not on ubuntu at the moment.07:17
LinuxTitanand I need xine-lib-1.1.107:17
LinuxTitanand I noticed that libxine-dev from dapper drake has it07:17
bimberi!info libxine-dev dapper07:17
ubotulibxine-dev: (the xine video player library, development packages), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu2-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 512 kB07:17
LinuxTitanI'm not on ubuntu07:17
Razor-XLinuxTitan: You can't obtain them from the repos? (I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment, either).07:17
bimberiLinuxTitan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/07:17
LinuxTitanthats what I'm asking07:17
LinuxTitanwhat is the repos url?07:17
Razor-XLinuxTitan: Then go on the Ubuntu packages site, and download the package you need.07:17
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edward_hi07:18
intelikey!info libxine-dev dapper07:18
RichART1wonder why its taking so long 2 hack this site?07:18
ubotulibxine-dev: (the xine video player library, development packages), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu2-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 512 kB07:18
intelikey<LinuxTitan> ^07:18
Razor-Xintelikey: Meh, I think that's ben posted already.07:18
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intelikeyoh so it has   sorry07:18
LinuxTitanwhy do I want the info?07:18
amphihas anyone tried the ipw2200 'master mode' driver here?07:18
LinuxTitanthat gives me no url to the repo07:19
Razor-XLinuxTitan: Go to the website above. (http://packages.ubuntu.com/)07:19
Razor-XLinuxTitan: I suggest you read a little better.07:19
wastrelamphi:  my card uses ipw2200  - dunno what you mean by master mode though07:19
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intelikeyyou asked where you could find that.... LinuxTitan i didn't notice that someone had already said that.07:19
amphiwastrel: aka access point mode07:19
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wastrelahh.  no i haven't done that07:19
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intelikeyLinuxTitan the url is in your /etc/apt/sources.list07:20
amphiwastrel: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9342819&forum_id=3893807:20
Arafangi1nwastrel, cafuego: Looks like that the _ONLY_ way to do it is to _mirror_, not _clone_ the screen :(07:20
bimberijetscreamer: :)07:20
wastrelArafangi1n:  i used mirroring when i set mine up.  not sure what clone is or what the difference is07:20
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wastrelamphi:  very interesting07:21
bonggnugood morning07:21
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papa_licmorning07:21
Arafangi1nwastrel: Clone allows the two desktops to differ in size and refresh.07:21
bonggnuanyone has migrated from Breezy to Dapper?07:21
papa_licshit07:22
allan_jason, can't even log back in07:22
bonggnuthrow apt-get -u dist-upgrade07:22
amphiwastrel: yeah - I might give a go tomorrow07:22
Arafangi1ncafuego: Looks like that rebooting _does_ reset the dual-screen status.07:22
wastrelArafangi1n:  ah yes,  i had to bump my lcd down to 1024x768 in order to get the projector working properly07:22
papa_licI dont phucking understan whats the problem with estonian langugage07:22
_jasonallan: what does it say07:22
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bonggnui am evaluate it07:22
seth_oh`boyI give up on trying to attempt to set up this wireless lan...07:23
allan_jason, gdm does not start, so I logged in in terminal07:23
allan_jason, and I can't restart gdm, because no sudo  :p07:23
_jasonallan: erm that doesn't sound like a sudo problem anymore07:23
TiG4Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?07:23
amphiallan: does startx work?07:23
Arafangi1nwastrel, cafuego: I think I'll have to reboot into windows to do presentations. That sucks :(07:23
papa_licguys07:24
intelikeystartx should work for user    unless you are / mounted nosuid07:24
wastrel:[07:24
papa_liccan ubuntu and win be in the same pc?07:24
intelikeyallan ^07:24
papa_licsimultaneously?07:24
seth_oh`boyI'm starting to like Ubuntu.07:24
TiG4papa_lic, yes07:24
Madpilotpapa_lic: sure07:24
TiG4papa_lic, its called "Dual-Booting"07:24
Slaj_RWhen I try to use apt-get to add the jre plugin for firefox, I get "couldn't find package."  What's the best way to install?07:24
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papa_licand one can be installed after win is installed?07:24
Razor-Xpapa_lic: Errrr? Estonian?07:24
allanseth_oh`boy: ubuntu rocks07:24
seth_oh`boyI have Windows and Ubuntu on my computer now07:24
_jasonubotu: tell Slaj_R about java07:24
intelikeypapa_lic i hope so cause they both live on this 610mb hdd   :)07:24
robotgeekseth_oh`boy: what wireless card?07:25
papa_licRazor-X: yup07:25
seth_oh`boy^_^07:25
TiG4Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?07:25
Razor-Xpapa_lic: If you want to talk about Estonian, I suggest you go to #ubuntu-offtopic.07:25
papa_lici  tried live-cd07:25
seth_oh`boyBroadcom07:25
papa_licand it just stucks in default settings in estonian07:25
Razor-XThis place isn't the plae to discuss Estonian, or any other language.07:25
Razor-XNot even C ;).07:25
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robotgeekubotu: tell seth_oh`boy about ndiswrapper07:25
seth_oh`boyAcer Aspire Broadcom 431807:25
papa_licI meant taht ubuntu in estoaninan language package  stopped at login screen07:25
seth_oh`boyI've been using ndiswrapper07:26
Mordofhow do i test a screensaver?07:26
seth_oh`boyI've installed the driver and it doesn't work I think I need07:26
Razor-Xpapa_lic: Ah.07:26
Mordofin dapper there is no preview button07:26
Razor-Xpapa_lic: My bad.07:26
papa_licyup07:26
seth_oh`boybcmwl5a.inf and not just bcmwl507:26
papa_licit gives me the login screen and doe not accept any users or passwords07:26
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ALL4Namphi, yes.. startx worked07:27
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rob__can someone tell me how to run a excutable java jar file?07:28
intelikeybut your sudo is still hosed ALL4N07:28
amphiALL4N: cool - that's what I use generally, I don't use a ?dm07:28
Manticehttp://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Laptops/Laptops/Other/auction-48448361.htm07:28
ALL4Nintelikey, yepps07:28
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papa_licumm...does anyone know that might there be problems ubuntu live-cd + win nt 4.007:28
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amphiALL4N: why? failure to use visudo? ;)07:28
ALL4Nso now I am back to the original problem.. how to fix sudo, without any permissiosn07:28
p0windahany progress with xgl and compviz for ubuntu ?07:28
ALL4Namphi, yes, I don't have this user in the sudoers list07:29
papa_licintelikey: the solution you gave me yesterday did not work07:29
ManticeI cant move out im like 16 where the fuck would I go... I live in country in New Zealand07:29
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Madpilotpapa_lic: the LiveCD doesn't touch the installed OS, so it shouldn't matter07:29
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p0windahMantice: I moved out at 17, two of my sisters did it at 1607:29
intelikeyALL4N can you boot to single user mode and add yourself to the   admin  group ?07:29
_jasonALL4N: so I suppose sudo still does not work? boot in recovery mode and make sure your /etc/sudoers looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/702107:29
ManticeYou have know idea where I live :(07:29
ALL4Nintelikey, I think I am in the admin group07:29
_jasonALL4N: make sure you still are07:29
ManticeSo can I move in :)07:29
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p0windahMantice: I have a very good idea, we lived in qld at the time - yes it was hard07:30
intelikeypapa_lic i don't recall what i might have sujested yesterday or what it concerned ?07:30
ManticeDude I ant leaving my computer you can come pick me up07:30
TiG4Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?07:30
dhalgrenhi07:30
ManticeI have no car by the way07:30
ManticeSo I will have to carry it out07:30
Manticeits a box on weeals lol07:30
seth_oh`boyI can access my windows driver from my window partion from linux, but the windows doesn't have a .inf file so do i just use another .inf file that supposely goes with the .sys file?07:30
Manticeserver box :)07:30
p0windahMantice: I'm almost 30 now, still dont have a car and work as a freelancer in HK07:30
intelikeyALL4N  type  /exec -o group    right here in your chat client07:30
p0windahMantice: quit making excuses and whining - you sound like a pom07:31
Manticelolz0r07:31
ManticeHong Kong ?07:31
ALL4Nsh: group: command not found07:31
p0windahyup07:31
ManticeWow you must have the coolest animie07:31
wastrelgroups07:31
Mantice:)07:31
_jasonALL4N: groups07:31
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ALL4Naha07:31
papa_licwhy do I need one?07:31
ALL4Nexec -o groups07:31
Manticewhat a shame it ant in english07:31
ALL4Nsorry07:31
p0windahcars are extremely over-rated07:31
concept10I have a car for sale07:31
ALL4Nallan fax tape07:31
papa_licthe public transportation system works great07:31
Razor-XExcuse me, people.07:31
ALL4Nsuddenly no more in the admin group07:32
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ManticeNot in country07:32
abcddoes canonical provide relocation ? :D07:32
Razor-XDoes this have ANYTHING to do with Ubuntu?07:32
Manticemaybe i can find a horse07:32
Razor-XIf not, I suggest you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.07:32
dhalgreni have installed 5.10 on an asus a5ec laptop, and it hung when stating hotplug module. got around that with help from the forum page, and have installed new alsa version as suggested, but now there is no soundcard configured. sound is hda-intel. how do i configure this card manually, please?07:32
_jasonALL4N: that's nice, heh reboot in recovery mode and do 'adduser your_username admin'07:32
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Razor-XAnd I can only suggest, an op can do more.07:32
mzuverinkTiG4: after you select your city, then restart evolution and then look at your calendar, at the top of each day youll have a temp range and a conditions forecast07:32
abcdanybody here working in canonical ?07:32
Razor-Xpapa_lic: You can try out an Estonian channel, if it's easier to understand.07:32
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intelikeyALL4N you are in " allan fax tape "  but not admin    you will have to fix that to use sudo07:32
ALL4N_jason, you saw I was in a bunch of other groups before I logged out07:32
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p0windahRazor-X: I had a meeting with the ubuntu guys in Hong Kong yesterday if thats more "on-topic"07:32
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_jasonALL4N: I saw yeah07:32
Manticep0windah is every thing cencered over there?07:33
ALL4Nanyhow..  I'll go recovery mode..07:33
ManticeOr is that the grate firewall of china07:33
ALL4Nthanks folks07:33
_jasonALL4N: I'll give you the list after you add yourself to 'admin' so that you can put yourself back in all of them07:33
papa_licRazor-X: is there one?07:33
Razor-Xp0windah: Nope. This is the official Ubuntu support channel.07:33
ALL4N_jason, all right.. brb07:33
Razor-Xpapa_lic: Try #ubuntu-<two-letter-language-code>.07:33
wastrelthat's the 2nd time in 2 days that's happened.07:33
ManticeThis channel is the best... I think I was chating in the most restrivtive IRC chat room in the world the other day07:33
wastrelis it common for ppl to drop themselves out of admin?07:33
p0windahMantice: HK is a special administrative zone, legal system based on common law, etc. we enjoy more freedoms than north americans right now07:33
ManticeThat cool07:34
_jasonwastrel: it's a bug with using the gui to give admin, I've seen it a few times and I think it's been reported as well07:34
ManticeAnd the high speed broadband :)07:34
p0windahwe have 1Gig home service07:34
papa_licRazor-X: no help07:34
Razor-Xpapa_lic: Ah, sorry :\.07:34
p0windahpapa_lic: what was your question ?07:34
papa_liclooks like Im the onlyone from that country07:34
zphinxhong kong is still under the jurisdiction of the peoples republic of china isnt it?07:34
TiG4mzuverink, nope, dont see anything, will it show it on the full month view?07:34
papa_licin estonian language package07:35
p0windahzphinx: no07:35
zphinxformosa?07:35
papa_licthe os stops at lognin screen07:35
papa_licaccepts no users nor passwords07:35
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zphinxp0windah: Wasnt it given back to china not long ago?07:35
Razor-XUgghhh..07:35
mzuverinkTiG4: no just for the next week, and you have to  be in day mode, click on the box by the weather calendar07:35
ManticeMan Ubuntu is easyer than windows to install.... I wonder what would hapen if gates opened up a IRC chat room07:35
Razor-XPlease take Hong Kong to #ubuntu-offtopic.07:35
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Manticeslash Disconect07:36
Razor-XLest you want everyone in this channel parading the rights of their own coutry.07:36
p0windahzphinx: pre 1997 it was a british colony, post it reverted back to China, but to maintain economic and political relationships, china allowed Hong Kong to become a "special administrative region" - whereby it basically governs itself07:36
zphinxoh07:36
TiG4mzuverink, yeah im in day mode, still dont see it, wierd07:36
robotgeekp0windah: zphinx please use #ubuntu-offtopic, really07:36
intelikeyMantice one thidr of the peopel in here would become 'script kiddies'     llllll07:36
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Manticescript kiddies :S I rather code from scratch07:37
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p0windahpapa_lic: what'd you do to break it ?07:37
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mzuverinkMantice,: I just got done installing Win Xp on a box here at home to do online banking, it took 6 hours between install and updates, installing av and everything else, meanwhile I made 4 vm on another box and upgraded thenm all07:37
nonickMantice what did u break ?07:37
ManticeMantice broke nothing07:37
Manticehes asking me07:37
Manticeso you better help me07:37
Manticelol07:37
papa_licp0windah: didint break it07:37
Arafangi1nmzuverink: You need winxp just for internet banking?07:37
papa_licgot live-cd from post07:38
ManticeUse linux07:38
papa_licinserted it into cd-rom07:38
Arafangi1nmzuverink: Which bank? Mine goes fine in firefox on linux.07:38
papa_licand it just halts07:38
papa_lictried every possible way07:38
Manticesome script kidey might steal your password and buy a laptop :)07:38
mzuverinkArafangiln: yes, actually my linuxphobe wife needed ti07:38
Madpilotpapa_lic: have you tried other liveCDs? Sometimes you get bad CDs, or they've been scratched in the mail07:38
p0windahpapa_lic: livecd or install cd ?07:38
papa_liclive-cd07:38
papa_licit was a 5-pack07:39
mzuverinkArafangiln: Portland Federal Credit Union and SeaFirst bank07:39
papa_lic5 sets07:39
papa_licyou think it might be just the one cd?07:39
_jasonI'm gonna go, if ALL4N comes back, someone link him to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9039 which has his group list.  Thanks07:39
Arafangi1nmzuverink: I guess the computer came with it, or you could've raised the $400 cost issue.07:39
papa_lictried other set on different pc and did the same shit07:39
intelikeyMantice ssshhh07:39
p0windahpapa_lic: and you've tried pulling out the cd and carefuly cleaning it ?07:39
p0windahpapa_lic: thats probably because the CD is roasted :)07:39
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TiG4mzuverink, could you take a screenshot of what your talking about?07:40
intelikeyMantice i need a new lappy.....07:40
wastrelcan't firefox lie about the user-agent?  that might get you into sites that check for IE07:40
papa_licp0windah: so you think that I should order another 5-pack?07:40
mzuverinkArafangiln: actually the machine did not come with XP, it came out of the junk pile at the computer store by my house and the XP came from Emule07:40
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p0windahpapa_lic: clean it first, try again and then try to boot from another linux livecd(like madpilot suggested) - then think about ordering another pack07:41
ManticeBad cd's happen so do bad ISO's .... its sad07:41
ManticeI downloaded 4.7 fedora core 4 dvd only to have it no validate on install07:42
Mantice:(07:42
Manticeand I have a 3 gb cap for the month07:42
papa_licso you guuys think that the halt at login screen is not coding error but just some dirt on cd??07:42
spikebikemantice07:42
spikebikemight have been a bad burn07:42
Razor-Xpapa_lic: Posibly.07:42
spikebikemd5sum your ISO07:42
Razor-X*Possibly.07:42
papa_lichmmz07:42
papa_licok07:42
spikebikeand rsync if it's off07:42
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concept10Anyone know about sessions?  (The .dmrc file in your home directory)07:42
Razor-Xpapa_lic: MD5SUM it, reburn it, and try it on a different machine.07:42
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papa_licwhere the heck do they limit download size?07:43
Madpilotpapa_lic: it might be; it could also be a bug with your language version07:43
mzuverinkTiG4: I dont have evolution, I use Sylpheed and Claws, but I tried it before I dumped it. But if you go to calendar, you will see on the right side a list of cal's, personal, birthdays and weather, check the box by weather and make sure personal is checked then got to day veiw, look at tomorrow and see the top of the day, the weather should be there07:43
ManticeI ant going with fedora core any way so :P07:43
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ManticeUbuntu = Gnome or the other one or somthing lol07:43
ManticeKDE07:43
Razor-XMantice: It uses Gnome as a default WM, yes.07:44
Razor-XI don't use Gnome, though.07:44
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intelikeyUbuntu = Gnome     kUbuntu = kde07:44
mzuverinkTiG4: is it there?07:44
ManticeI use KDE at work not that i work much no more07:44
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ManticeGnome good ?07:44
Mr_EkoHi07:44
TiG4mzuverink, in day view, you say look @ tomorrow07:44
vladuz976does ubuntu already have the new xorg?07:44
TiG4mzuverink, i can only see today07:45
ManticeMore people in chat room so I guess its good07:45
intelikeybut you can run 'nome on kubuntu  or kde on ubuntu   so it's just the default install packages07:45
TiG4mzuverink, and personal and weather are checked07:45
Razor-XNor do I use KDE, heh.07:45
ManticeI went to the other website and it looked crapier i think so i went with ubentu07:45
Mr_EkoI'm getting started with Ubuntu and i would like to install kde07:45
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Razor-XYou can also try out ``Xubuntu'' for XFce.07:45
TiG4mzuverink, lemme show you what i have07:45
mzuverinkTiG4:on the month view on the right side, click the next day07:46
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Mr_Ekoi already tried the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but it doesn't do a thing07:46
intelikeyMr_Eko sudo apt-get kdebase07:46
intelikeyMr_Eko sudo apt-get install kdebase07:46
mzuverinkTiG4: installing EEvolution go to #mzuverink07:47
Mr_Eko Package kdebase has no installation candidate07:47
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intelikeykdebase - KDE Base metapackage      <--- it does here....07:47
Mr_Ekowhere can i paste the complete error message?07:47
ManticeAre you guys feeling ok... You guys dont have the world domination thing going today.07:48
intelikey!pastebin07:48
timfrost!paste07:48
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)07:48
ubotuI guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:48
intelikeyMantice ?07:48
ManticeWrong chat07:48
ManticeYeah07:48
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ManticeUbuntu-offtopic for the win :)07:49
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Mr_Ekohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/904007:49
ALL4N_jason, works perfectly now  :)  thanks07:49
ManticeI was hooked on linux when i saw the screen savers... The rubix cube is 133707:49
ALL4N_jason, I added all the groups using the GUI07:49
Manticebrb dinner07:49
Mr_Ekoit's a fresh install07:49
Mr_Ekoapart from all the hacks to make the wi-fi adapter work07:50
intelikey!repos07:50
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:50
intelikeyMr_Eko ^07:50
lisklanyone heard of a system info program that overlays the text about system status on the desktop transparently?07:51
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wastrelliskl:  there's a couple ways to do that... gdesklets  maybe07:52
lisklthanks agian wastrel07:52
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intelikeyliskl hmmm sounds like eye candy gone to seed,   but hey i'm on console-only  so what do you expect from me...07:52
wellgo bash07:52
intelikeyok07:53
liskllol intelikey07:53
intelikeyi really do have things to do,,,, while it's quiet in here.07:53
Mr_Ekoit's done07:53
intelikeycjul8r07:54
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Mr_Ekonow it's even worse07:56
Mr_Ekohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/904107:56
concept10The fade out password prompt in Dapper needs to be changed back !07:56
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phillipchow can I find out what package provides a certain file?07:57
wastrelphillipc:  apt-file i believe07:57
stevenjdoes anyone know if GTK 2.7 will be added back to dapper before release?07:57
wastrelphillipc:  for files on your system07:58
timfrostphillipc, 'dpkg -L <file>' if the package is installed. apt-file (from universe) will search the repositories07:58
Mr_Ekoshit07:58
Mr_Ekodon't know what to do07:58
wastrelheh i had it backwards07:58
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Mr_Ekoalready did everything in the howto07:59
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stevenjanyone work as a Information Security Officer?07:59
skonis it possible to install dapper live to hdd?08:00
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MadpilotMr_Eko: you might have messed up sources - can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?08:00
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Manticeback08:00
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_lemsx1_stevenj: what's an information security officer? security engineering? (IT)08:01
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hdyes08:01
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Mr_Ekohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/904208:02
wastrelyikes08:03
stevenj_lemsx1_, some companies may call it chief security officer-its basically a position that is the network "watchdog"08:03
MadpilotMr_Eko: it's not working because you've got a really messed up sources.list08:03
Mr_Ekowhat should i do?08:04
Mr_Ekoerase it?08:04
MadpilotMr_Eko: have a look at this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604708:04
Mr_Ekook08:04
_lemsx1_stevenj: i work as a security engineer, but i'm not a senior security engineer (which might be what you called "chief"). i'm a network and company-wise (IT) watchdog :-)08:04
MadpilotMr_Eko: your current sources.list has everything commented out except Universe, no wonder apt-get couldn't find anything08:05
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Mr_Ekook... so, i copied everything into my sources.list08:05
robinl1augh08:06
robinl1i dont feel so good08:06
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MadpilotMr_Eko: save it, run "sudo apt-get update", then try your isntall again08:06
Madpilot*install, even...08:06
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Mr_EkoThanks08:07
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MadpilotMr_Eko: np.08:08
LoRd-Phr3xHi, has anyone installed XGL and compiz on Dapper Drake, with out an onboard graphics card?08:08
LoRd-Phr3xi mean with an onboard graphics card *08:08
_lemsx1_LoRd-Phr3x: I have done that with a Intel card08:08
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LoRd-Phr3xsorry women problems, not thinking straight :p08:08
_lemsx1__lemsx1_: i810 driver08:08
Mr_Eko_lemsx1_, and how does it behave08:08
_lemsx1_LoRd-Phr3x: you should drink some beer then ;-)08:09
LoRd-Phr3xdid you need to install any new drivers?08:09
_lemsx1_Mr_Eko: slowish, but usable08:09
LoRd-Phr3xhaha, might have a cc and dry later08:09
stevenj_lemsx1_, I see well I have a senior systems admin for about 7 years; however, recently I assumed the additional respon. of ISO...just wondering if any here are in that position..so many questions :)08:09
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_lemsx1_LoRd-Phr3x: no new drivers08:09
LoRd-Phr3xa little pot and some solo will do me fine for now08:09
Mr_Ekoif i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, can  i go to sleep and just wait?08:09
LoRd-Phr3xnice, did you have any troubles with it?08:09
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brydennk i have a wine problem... i deleted my c drive on accident08:10
_lemsx1_stevenj: ok. i'm sure there are a lot more of us here ;-)08:10
brydenni was messing around in winecfg08:10
brydenncan anyone helP?08:10
magenetis ubuntu better thna fedora and mandrake?08:10
varread this: http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html08:10
whitynzof course magenet08:10
p0windahmagenet: atleast 23% better08:10
varthat might help08:10
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_lemsx1_magenet: by a mile ;-)08:10
=== LoRd-Phr3x finds it to be alot better..
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p0windahmagenet: some have even argued for 24%08:11
concept10offtopic: has anyone seen those new Volkswagen commericals?  The ones with the little black toy figure?08:11
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concept10They crack me up08:11
LoRd-Phr3x.rpm's suck :p08:11
magenethmm08:11
whitynzmagenet: you are asking a fairly biased group :p08:11
LoRd-Phr3xor .rpm based distros08:11
magenetim trying to decide08:11
magenetwhat distro to use08:11
magenetim on mepis linux right now08:11
mageneti just ordered some ubuntu cds ;p08:12
_lemsx1_whitynz: i agree. but most of us have already suffered with other distros08:12
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LoRd-Phr3xgo for breezy, or try out the new Dapper Drake 6.0408:12
whitynz_lemsx1_: heh yeah08:12
magenetbreezy is ubuntu right?08:12
whitynzit is'08:12
LoRd-Phr3xyeah, it's the latest stable relase08:12
magenetits that what they pack on cd right?08:13
_lemsx1_magenet: one flavor of ubuntu... other is dapper, other is hoary... etc...08:13
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magenet>< god ill use breezy then08:13
magenetlol08:13
magenetsounds easier ;p08:13
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liquidindianmagenet:  I'm rubbish, and I'm doing okay with ubuntu.08:13
liquidindianmake of that what you will.08:14
wastreli'm sleepy08:14
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magenetheh08:14
magenetill see what happens when it gets here08:14
Mr_Eko_lemsx1_, where did you download the opengl drivers for intel 910?08:14
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_lemsx1_Mr_Eko: intel 810 i said... the drivers are the regular mesa stuff08:15
_lemsx1_Mr_Eko: go into #xgl-ubuntu and type: ?? working08:15
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_lemsx1_Mr_Eko: you will see the list of cards that work08:15
stevenj_lemsx1_, what would you do if an employee was banned from a blogging website and then posted all of IT are Nazis? Let it go or take this employee out?  Have you ever had a situation like this?08:15
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robotgeekstevenj: offtopic, please?08:16
mebaran151I'm in dapper and neither my clock nor firefox work on AMD64?  Is this normal?08:16
mf988hello08:16
mebaran151and could anyone file a bugreport for me08:16
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mebaran151as I don't have a webbroswer in which I am comfortable now08:16
mf988trying to modify a bootimg.bin (bootable floppy image)08:16
_lemsx1_stevenj: depending on the policies of the company. most companies have a zero tolerance for stuff like that... which means that he or she must be let go08:17
Madpilotmebaran151: install Opera :P08:17
mf9881) what is the equivalent of rawrite in ubuntu ?08:17
_lemsx1_stevenj: if there is no policy, then one should be written for the next time08:17
robotgeek_lemsx1_: please, offtopic. stevenj08:17
mebaran151Madpilot: this actually gives me a good excuse to install it08:17
mf9882) how can I 'rawrite' to a virtual floppy (I don' t have any physical floppy)08:17
mf988?08:17
_lemsx1_stevenj: yep. offtopic :-)08:17
mebaran151could some one please check in the bug repo whether or not this issue is known08:17
mebaran151?08:17
brydenncan someone please help me with WINE?08:18
liquidindianCan the archive manager deal with rar files split into parts?08:18
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timfrostmf988, dd - use 'dd if=<file> of=/dev/fd0' to write the file to floppy in drive 0 (MSDOS A:)08:18
stevenj_lemsx1_,  heh08:18
[nige] anyone know how to configure exim4 and mailscanner08:19
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mf988timfrost: except I don't have a floppy... (hardware)08:19
timfrostmf988, what do you mean 'virtual floppy'?08:19
mf988timfrost: I am on a laptop - no physical floppy08:20
jack|assHas anyone gotten a dlink DWL-G520 to work in Ubuntu?  It sees the card and can see my WAP, but isn't able to pull an address.  It looks like it's having tx/rx errors.08:20
_lemsx1_[nige] : that usually involves spliting the in and out queues and adding some headers checking with "access" or one of those files08:20
_lemsx1_[nige] : you should do some googling... lot of reading08:20
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thelsdjmf988: why do you need to rawrite if you don't have a floppy?08:20
[nige] _lemsx1_, i have split exim with the in and out queues but it didnt seem to read any of the mail08:20
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[nige] _lemsx1_, the only think i find are the same guides08:21
mf988thelsdj: I need to modify a file in the bootimg.bin, then put it back together08:21
_lemsx1_[nige] : perhaps because is very simple to do ... that's why there are no more guides08:21
monzie_hi all08:21
[nige] _lemsx1_, i guess it was simple i would have got it working already :P08:21
thelsdjmf988: mount -o loop bootimg.bin /media/floppy08:21
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_lemsx1_[nige] : i use postfix with mailscanner and i did just that. split the queues. tell postfix to HOLD messages in the in.queue if they have been received (header)08:22
pepsiwhat is the `adm` group.. GID 408:22
mf988thelsdj: tx! will try08:22
pepsiis that short for admin or something?08:22
pepsiim guessing no08:22
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thelsdjpepsi: i think adm is allowed to view logs08:22
thelsdjpepsi: yes it is short for admin08:22
_lemsx1_[nige] : and then tell mailscanner to pick messages from that queue and put it in the local delivery queue, where your mail server will then push it where it belongs08:22
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thelsdjnot sure what else its allowed to do08:22
[nige] okay08:22
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pepsithelsdj, i want to give myself permission to run synaptic08:22
[nige] means i have to go through the mailscanner.conf again08:23
_lemsx1_pepsi: adm and admin are 2 different beasts08:23
[nige] :S08:23
pepsishould i create a new group?08:23
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pepsiand then chgrp synaptic to that?08:23
_lemsx1_pepsi: just add yourself to "admin" and use "sudo"08:23
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pepsii dotn want to use sudo08:23
pepsi:P08:23
pepsii want permissions outright08:23
_lemsx1_[nige] : yes. i guess you just need to configure mailscanner now08:23
[nige] i thought i did08:24
[nige] :)08:24
_lemsx1_pepsi: change the uid of your user to 0 ;-)08:24
pepsinah08:24
pepsii dont ned that much08:24
mf988thelsdj: how can I make that device read/write (loopback)08:24
mf988?08:24
[nige] i know i have specified both in and out going queues08:24
thelsdjpepsi: you could possibly setuid synaptic and make sure only group is allowed to execute it (and add yourself to that group)08:24
thelsdjpepsi: i would create new group for it08:24
wastrelpepsi synaptic will have to read & write package lists and download/install packages08:24
thelsdjmf988: not read/write by default?08:24
pepsithere is staff08:24
pepsibut it is a low id as well.. 6008:25
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mf988thelsdj: well, the BOOTIMG.BIN is already on a loopback mounted .ISO08:25
Manticethis is creepy http://www.xpde.com/shots.php08:25
[nige] going to look back at the queues again.08:25
thelsdjmf988: copy it somewhere?08:25
pepsii think ill use staff though08:25
pepsiseems appropriate08:25
mebaran151does anyone else have any trouble with the gnome clock08:25
thelsdjmf988: you'll have to recreate the iso then08:25
mebaran151I'm on AMD64, and it refuses to start08:25
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thelsdjcan't write to an iso08:26
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mf988thelsdj: ok, will search08:26
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mf988thelsdj: tx08:26
_lemsx1_pepsi: staff is junior admin... good08:26
Mr_Ekohow do i install the drivers for the intel 910 graphic cards08:26
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sanjayany site for utilities like in windows ... i am new to this08:27
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Madpilotsanjay: there are masses of utilities included in Ubuntu - what did you want to do?08:27
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sanjaylike how do i connect to yahoo messenger pl08:27
thelsdjsanjay: gaim08:27
lisklanyone know a way to use php from a web page to exec a .sh?08:27
Madpilotsanjay: Applications menu --> Internet --> gAIM08:28
wastrelliskl:  what's the php equivalent of system() ?08:28
_lemsx1_liskl: like a cgi-bin ?08:29
sanjaymadpilot: thanks08:29
wastrelliskl:  actually, i don't know whether it's possible08:29
sanjayi will just check08:29
Dasnipa`liskl, execute a shell script from php? sounds like a security exploit i hope its not possible08:29
_lemsx1_liskl: i agree with wastrel, unless there is a system() call on the script itself (if you own the script that is)08:29
wastreli doubt the web server will have access to the shell binary08:29
thelsdjprobably exec()08:30
thelsdjliskl: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.exec.php08:30
magenetLiskl: if you use cpanel it lets u open ssh and exexecute .sh files from the php panel08:31
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sanjaymadpilot : thanks i am through with yahoo08:31
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monziehi all08:32
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monziei have a problem with my hdparm output08:32
pradaanyone know if there is a repository serving beagle-0.20 anywhere ?08:32
monziehdparm -i /dev/hda gives:08:32
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monzieRawCHS 16383/16/6308:33
monzieand08:33
lisklthanks everyone, thelsdj helped most - there is a exec(); thanks man08:33
monzieCurrCHS  4047/16/25508:33
thelsdjprada: dapper has 0.2.1 i think08:33
cafuegoit doth08:34
pradathelsdj: I am using dapper ... but let me check again08:34
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thelsdjinstalling it now myself as i haven't tried beagle since installing ubuntu heh08:34
lisklbuilding a way to send data over a serial connection for x10 devices08:34
thelsdjprada: its in universe08:34
cafuegoDon't bother with beagle on breezy.08:34
thelsdjya i am on dapper08:35
cafuegoBut do ensure you have a LOT of free ram ;-)08:35
pradado an apt-cache show ... it still shows me beagle_0.1.408:35
cafuego!info beagle dapper08:35
ubotubeagle: (indexing and search tool for your personal data), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 740 kB, Installed size: 2368 kB08:35
cafuegoThat's odd.08:35
cafuegoprada: ANyway, http://www.cafuego.net/ubuntu08:35
pradasweet ... thanks08:36
thelsdjcafuego: hrm, i was going to say is 1gb of ram enough? but then i remember i also run azureus which eats a few hundred mb heh08:36
cafuegothelsdj: I have 1.5GB and beagle isn't above eating 1GB08:37
cafuegothelsdj: i have a *huge* index, though.08:37
thelsdjhah hrm i've got ~350mb free right now (including cached)08:37
pradai thought the mem hogging was a lot less in 0.20 ..08:37
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wastreli have 768 MB - need to upgrade08:38
cafuegoprada: it is a lot less to begin with, but not agter 14 days.08:38
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znelsondoes anyone know about IPVS support in breezy? I thought it was in the kernels since 2.6.10 but apparently not08:38
thelsdji have 2 work machines on my desk with 4gb of ram each hehe, my 1gb seems measly08:39
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ManticeYou should all join ubuntu-offtopic08:39
Sp4rKyhi08:39
Sp4rKydoes anyone have openbox ?08:39
cafuegoznelson: ipvs?08:39
znelsonlinux virtual server08:39
thelsdjznelson: which virtual server? i never heard of ipvs08:39
cafuegoznelson: Oh yeah, it's in recentish kernels. Certainly in 2.6.12 I think (breezy)08:40
znelsonwww.linuxvirtualserver.org08:40
wastrelsomeone go to http://fridge.ubuntu.com/  in firefox & tell me if the page is rendering correctly?  i get a row of tabs in the middle of the flight4 announcement08:40
znelsonhmm cause when I download the admin package, the installation says there's no support in the kernel08:40
znelsonbummed me out08:40
cafuegowastrel: looks fine08:40
Manticerenders fine08:40
ManticeGet latestst firefox08:41
ManticeI notest that mozilla has load of bugs08:41
Manticefor rendering08:41
pradacafuego: the beagle deb includes support for wv1 etc. ?08:41
thelsdjznelson:  may not be enabled in the ubuntu kernel, have you cross referenced the .config file setting with a kernel that does have it?08:41
znelsonthelsdj: I'm a relative newb, so no.. but will do that now08:42
wastrelme g'night08:42
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thelsdjznelson: you apt-get install ipvsadm?08:42
znelsonyeah08:42
Manticehow come http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ has people in there underware and ubuntu.com has none?08:43
thelsdjznelson: you might need to modprobe some modules08:43
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znelsonok..08:44
thelsdjznelson: look in /boot/config-2.6.12* IPVS stuff sure seems to be enabled08:44
MadpilotMantice: because The Fridge is cooler08:44
znelsoncheckin08:44
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Manticelol08:45
thelsdjznelson: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ipv4/ipvs08:45
ManticeIf the fridge is cooler why would they have to take there clothes off08:45
cafuegoMantice: They're hot!08:45
thelsdjthe fridge page is messed up in my firefox08:46
thelsdjthe tabs show up at the bottom of the first page08:46
ManticeWell it looks hotter in ubuntu.com and colder in fridgeub . . ....08:46
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ManticeThis is kinda off topic but its ok as long as no ones asking questions08:46
znelsonweird .. cause the package install gives me:08:47
znelsonSetting up ipvsadm (1.24+1.21-1) ...08:47
znelsonKernel does not support IPVS!08:47
liquidindianIs "underware" some sort of jargon for a program that removes clothing?08:47
thelsdjznelson: modprobe ip_vs then try reinstalling it08:47
ManticeYes08:47
znelsoncool08:48
thelsdjznelson: just a guess, may not work08:48
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znelsonhmm i think i need to remove then reinstall it08:48
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Manticei might get an iPod later on in life when I have money08:49
Manticeso i can put linux on it08:49
thelsdjznelson: try dpkg-reconfigure ipvsadm08:49
thelsdjor something like that08:49
spikebikelinux doesn't work on new ipods08:49
znelsonya08:49
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lockheadhow do i check how much disk usage i have?08:49
ndlovuhi all, I accidentally deleted a wiki database while trying to back it up (don't ask...). It seems that on an ext3 filesystem undelete is just about impossible. But are there tools that will let you search through freed inodes for the text that was in the files?08:49
intelikeylockhead df08:50
ndlovulockhead: df -h08:50
intelikeydf -h08:50
intelikeydu /08:50
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Manticeformat C:08:50
intelikeydu -s /08:50
ManticeBusts out windows commands ;)08:50
lampshadeIs there a way to make gnome show previews of images in the basic file open dialog for programs?  I want to select images, but I have no idea since some of them are just long strings of random characters.  A preview would be awesome08:50
Manticedont try my idea08:50
ndlovulockhead: df = disk free; -h = human readable (it gives it to you in bytes, not blocks)08:51
intelikeythere's no C: in linux  so it's ok to try that...08:51
Manticelol08:51
znelsonthelsdj: modprobe did the trick .. thanks08:51
elkbuntuMantice, i had myself in tears when i tried doing something in dos the other week and tried linux commands :D08:51
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elkbuntutears of laughter of course.08:51
lockheadi would have tears of sorrow since i had to use dos08:52
intelikey:)08:52
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[nige] where are mailscanner logs kept?08:52
thelsdjhrm so now i have beagle installed, how to put it to good use, bah gotta do my fstab08:52
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intelikey[nige]  did you look in /var/log?08:53
[nige] yep looking through it at the moment08:53
ndlovuokay, is there some way to get a list of free but non-empty inodes on an ext3 filesystem?08:54
intelikey[nige]  did you  man mailscanner  ?08:54
ManticeAny one know any thing about SINA school firewall?08:54
[nige] hmmm08:54
[nige] i have been readin through a few guides,08:54
[nige] not sure if i have manned it yet08:54
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intelikeywell i've never used mailscanner but that is where i'd start.08:55
fojackedddoltblooh, i suck at IRC, is anyone here able to help me with a couple questions?08:55
Manticemaybe irc08:56
Madpilotfojackedddolt: please just ask08:56
Manticewe ant going to kill you08:56
Mantice..08:56
Arafangi1nIs it possible to read ext3 filesystems in windows?08:56
Arafangi1nSurely someone has made a driver by now.08:56
Manticei think theres a bug in my room08:56
intelikey"free but non-empty" ? ndlovu08:56
thelsdjMantice: GET BACK ON TOPIC! heheh08:56
ManticeWhat happend if the bug got me?08:57
hatake_kakashiMantice: call the poison's hotline, not here08:57
fojackedddoltohkay, sorry. I just installed Ubuntu, and it got my monitor settings wrong... I think I fixed it, under in the xorg.conf but the only problem now is... how to i save?08:57
intelikeyArafangi1n sure.   e2explorer or something like that08:58
ndlovuintelikey: I have to admit I'm not too clued up on how the filesytstem works, but basically I'm wanting to search through the data that's on one of my partitions, but not associated with existing files08:58
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Arafangi1nintelikey: Thanks.08:58
ndlovuintelikey: somebody on google suggested "grep /dev/hda1", but I don't know if there's a better way08:58
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Arafangi1nWhat is a good partition format to use for a large removable storage device?08:58
Arafangi1next3 is a pain because of permissions and all that, but fat32 has file size issues.08:59
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intelikeyndlovu what are you looking for ?08:59
ndlovuI deleted a mediawiki db, and I'm looking for the text that was contained in one of the pages08:59
ndlovuintelikey, I should be able to remember enough to get a grep match09:00
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intelikeythen grep and use -B  and -A   for before and after the match lines    man grep for details09:00
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ndlovuthanks intelikey, I'll see how that goes09:01
ManticeI got the bug09:01
Manticedont worry09:01
Manticeim safe09:01
spikebikeI'd write down the 3 longest words on that page09:01
Manticestupid cricket creeping around my computer09:01
spikebikethen grep the partition for them and write down the blocks they are in09:01
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intelikeyif you put several linse before and several after  you can pipe to less and viola (assuming there is a match)09:02
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yggdrasilhelloguys im trying to figure out how to do something i need to use gcc3.4 and im doing a make menuconfig and im getting a ton of errors09:03
jacquesmerdewhy wont synaptic allow me to mark nvidia-settings AND nvidia-glx for installation?09:03
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tburman'lo09:04
intelikey!b-e09:04
ubotub-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.09:04
intelikeyyggdrasil ^09:04
ndlovuspikebike: also not a bad idea (if grep outputs the block number). will try that if the before / after method fails09:04
yggdrasilok09:04
yggdrasilthanks gents09:04
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yggdrasilill give it a try09:04
yggdrasilok thats better but im still getting some errors after a bit09:05
intelikey!pastebin09:06
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)09:06
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intelikeyput your errors there ^09:06
yggdrasilshoot um09:06
yggdrasilim using dsl right now and i cant figuree out how to copy pste09:06
yggdrasil:(09:06
overriderhello, ubuntu seems not to have the verdana font. any way i can get it and install it? thanks...09:06
yggdrasilboth mouse buttons doesnt work09:06
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whatwhatwhat ftp clients do you ussually use on linux guys?09:07
intelikeyhighlight and where you want to paste  dubble button (middle)  click09:07
yggdrasilits ok im gonna give it a break for the night09:07
yggdrasilthanks though guys09:07
intelikeywhatwhat do a apt-cache search ftp       or synaptic   or aptitude09:08
Davey|Laptopanyone know how well the Apple Mightmouse works on Linux?09:08
intelikeyi like ncftp  myself.09:09
Davey|LaptopMighty Mouse09:09
Arafangi1nDavey|Laptop: Probably the same as any mouse.09:09
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whatwhatintelikey ok i will try it thanks09:10
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simpsonianbananahi09:10
simpsonianbananathis might sound pretty stupid, but how do I install a deb file?09:10
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Davey|LaptopArafangi1n, it has the scroll ball though, I doubht X can handle that :/09:10
intelikeywhatwhat you may be a 'gui' user,  gftp may be more to your liking.09:10
intelikeysimpsonianbanana sudo dpkg -i09:11
simpsonianbananathanks09:11
simpsonianbananawhat about a cpkg file?09:11
simpsonianbananasame do?09:11
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Arafangi1nDavey|Laptop: It can.09:12
Arafangi1nDavey|Laptop: Oh, did you say *ball*?09:12
intelikeyadd the file path and name to that of course....09:12
Davey|LaptopArafangi1n, yes09:12
Davey|LaptopArafangi1n, it can scroll in any direction09:12
Davey|LaptopArafangi1n, its an optical mouse, the scroll wheel, is a ball, so it can scroll in any direction09:12
Arafangi1nDavey|Laptop: Oh, well, at worst I'd imagine that it'd only be able to work in the up-down direction.09:13
Mordofim in Dapper Drake, how do i get out of X???09:13
Davey|LaptopArafangi1n, which defeats the point of buying a $60 mouse ;)09:13
Arafangi1nMordof: Ctrl+Alt+F1 through to F12, F7 is generally what X runs on.09:13
Mordofive tried killing gnome-session, tried killing xorg, tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop, nowthin works09:13
MordofArafangi1n: k09:13
Arafangi1nDavey|Laptop: I like the MS or Logitech mice myself.09:13
Davey|LaptopArafangi1n, I did, but I just lost my last set :/09:14
Arafangi1nDavey|Laptop: I like the irony of the MS Hardware often working better and nicer than their software - and it's a software company ;)09:14
Davey|Laptopactually, I hate MS mice09:14
Davey|Laptopthey feel flimsy09:14
Davey|Laptopbut I love my Logitechs09:14
httpdssMordof: to restart X ..... crtl+alt+bksp09:14
Davey|LaptopI'm just not willing to pay $130 for a rechargable "desktop" solution09:14
intelikeyArafangi1n should we start specifying 'left' ctrl alt  on that command ?    cause right alt is for tty 13-24 you know ?09:14
overriderto get verdana i have to install a package called msttcorefonts , right? can someone please tell me how to do that? via the gui synaptic package manager?09:15
Arafangi1nintelikey: I've just suddenly realised that I've _never_ used the right alt key!09:15
Mordofhttpdss: doesnt work, brings me back into gnome09:15
Mordofi want to kill X09:15
Arafangi1nintelikey: Except for that one time I needed it for qemu...09:15
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Mordofi need to get out of it entirely09:15
intelikey:)09:15
simpsonianbananahow do I install a .cpkg?09:15
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Arafangi1nMordof: Do what I said, then login in the console, then issue gdm stop.09:16
MordofArafangi1n: oh ok09:16
Arafangi1nMordof: I don't know what you've been doing, but that _WILL_ stop it.09:16
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intelikeyMordof that will be out of x    right alt + ctrl + f1    puts you in tty109:16
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intelikeysorry left09:17
intelikeyha09:17
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intelikeymy other right09:17
Arafangi1nintelikey: Looks like the left and right alts make no difference (here, at least)09:17
intelikeyArafangi1n go to console and try09:17
jacquesmerdeanyone here succeeded in installing nvidia binary drivers on dapper flight4?09:17
brosiozwhy the fonts of all gtk application are more smaller than other in kde ? i've try to set all to 12 but doesn't works09:17
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MordofArafangi1n: that doesnt stop it at all09:18
intelikeyright alt + f7   wont take you back to gui09:18
Arafangi1nintelikey: It ignores the right alt, so presumeably it does work, just that there's no getty09:18
MordofArafangi1n: i need to get out of it09:18
intelikeyno it doesn't Arafangi1n09:18
MordofArafangi1n: i cant even stop it from inside the console while logged in, stopping gdm doesn't work at all for me09:18
p0windahbrosioz: gtk is 96 methinks, kde try to scale to your mon.09:18
Arafangi1nMordof: What did you end up when you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?09:18
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brosiozp0windah: so what can i do ?09:19
MordofArafangi1n: in cli, but then when i went to f7 again it was still loaded09:19
thelsdjhrm anyone know how to get inotify permissions on dapper for beagle?09:19
MordofArafangi1n: im trying to load xgl.. and i need all X and gnome to not be running09:19
p0windahbrosioz: send an email to upstream gnome and kde and ask them to both use the same method ?09:19
Arafangi1nMordof: Ok, hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace after you do the configuration for xgl09:19
intelikeyArafangi1n i meant no it doesn't ignore it  ^09:19
MordofArafangi1n: ive got it all ready to go in a script to run, i just cant seem to get rid of X or gnome09:20
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Arafangi1nintelikey: It does ignore it in the sense that _nothing_ happens ;)09:20
Arafangi1nMordof: Something is very wierd on yours.09:20
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MordofArafangi1n: i know, i need another method to get out of it09:21
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jacquesmerdewhy is the nvidia-settings package necessary for the nvidia binary driver???09:21
Arafangi1nMordof: Well, let's get to basics. Do you even use GDM?09:21
MordofArafangi1n: if dapper uses it by default, then yes09:21
intelikeyMordof go to a console like you were told,  and do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop "09:21
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simpsonianbananaHello? Can someone help me with a cpkg file?09:22
robinl1cpkg?09:22
whatwhatintelikey yes that :p thanks09:22
intelikeyin the sense that _nothing_ happens <--- well yeah  but open high number ttys and it isn't ignoring it at all.  it just cant switch to /dev/null09:22
robinl1you mean dpkg09:22
robinl1?09:22
thelsdjhrm is inotify patch not in the default dapper kernel?09:22
simpsonianbanananope, cpkg09:22
robinl1cpkg?09:22
simpsonianbananayes09:23
robinl1don't know cpkg09:23
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robinl1i know my own package system, but not cpkg09:23
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robinl1:S09:23
Arafangi1nintelikey: Semantics, it's all about semantics dude :)09:23
robinl1oh.. now that i think about it09:23
robinl1need to work on appwev09:23
robinl1need to work on appweb*09:23
simpsonianbananaIt's a cedega engine update09:23
robinl1hmmm09:23
robinl1sorry, can't help ya09:23
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simpsonianbananaoh well, thanks anyway09:24
robinl1you're welcome :)09:24
MABzup09:24
intelikeymaybe there is a howto on the cedega site ?09:24
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ivaneeoWudi:hihi09:24
JustinLeiWUdi:Hell~~09:24
MABHow are people doing today?09:25
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Wudiwa .09:25
Wudihey,,09:25
sixslaphello09:25
MABchillin09:25
sixslaplike a villian09:25
MABthinking about either drinking coffee and not sleep or drink water and sleep LOL09:26
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sixslapsay umm can anyone tell me why my ident wont work09:27
sixslap?09:27
robinl1idents suck09:27
simpsonianbananaOkay, it neede to be installed from within cedaga09:27
robinl1:o09:27
sixslapyesterday it worked today it wont09:27
simpsonianbananathanks everyone09:27
robinl1so does ubuntu, haha, jk <expects to be kicked>09:27
sixslapyeah idents suck09:28
Arafangi1nDamn this is hard.09:28
robinl1i'll go gaming09:28
robinl1i want to game09:28
robinl1i want to game09:28
robinl1;D09:28
MAB:)~09:28
robinl1too bad for ya guys, i'm switching 2 windows, latah09:28
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sixslapyeah ta ta09:28
MABwindows is for old ladies and little girls09:28
Arafangi1nHow do I format a partition such that three situations hold true: (1) Must allow large file support, such as 10G, (2) Must work with the gnome-volume-manager by default, and (3) MUST NOT ENFORCE PERMISSIONS09:29
intelikeyto bad for us he says.... heh09:29
sixslaphave a good litte tea party bloake09:29
robinl1MAB: Yes i know but i need my games.09:29
Assassin5when I run a shell script, is there a way to show the line numbers, or the source while processing so I can debug it?09:29
robinl1MAB: GUNBOUND! RAGNAROK ONLINE! GUNZ ONLINE! ;D09:29
MABI hear you Robin09:29
robinl1good :p09:29
robinl1this will be your last warning.09:29
intelikeyArafangi1n you don't09:29
robinl1bye :P09:29
Arafangi1nI do not want permissions on this, it's too much a deal when sharing it between my computers.09:29
MABbut a computer is not a gaming system09:29
robinl1yes it is - for most people09:30
robinl1it rocks for gaming.09:30
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MABthat is what Playstations are for09:30
robinl1AND computers09:30
Arafangi1nintelikey: So, how the heck am I meant to share this drive between my computers?09:30
MadpilotArafangi1n: fat32?09:30
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Arafangi1nMadpilot: I can't write a file more than 4 GB09:30
robinl1some really good games have been placed on the computer09:30
MABI guess so but extreme games should be left for Xbox and Play Station09:30
robinl1take gunbound, ragnarok, gunz!09:30
simpsonianbananahey again, I have ye olde rage 128, are there any drivers for it? I can't find them on the ATI site..09:30
intelikeywith 10g file  and no perms   not a chance that i know of Arafangi1n09:30
Arafangi1nrobinl1: And nethack :)09:30
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robinl1Arafangi1n: can that be played online? O_O09:31
Arafangi1nrobinl1: Yes, actually09:31
robinl1Arafangi1n: how?09:31
Arafangi1nrobinl1: 'telnet nethack.alt.org' ;)09:31
robinl1any graphical clients?09:31
Arafangi1nrobinl1: Yes, but not for that server.09:31
intelikeyhackslab.something used to do that too09:31
robinl1hmm09:31
MadpilotArafangi1n: you've got individual files that're 4Gb+?09:32
Arafangi1nMadpilot: Yes.09:32
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MadpilotArafangi1n: DVD rips, or what?09:32
Micksaanyone want a dapper bug report/09:32
Micksa?09:32
Arafangi1nMadpilot: qemu disk images.09:32
MadpilotArafangi1n: wow :P09:32
Arafangi1nMadpilot: But my .tar backups can easily exceed that anyway.09:32
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simpsonianbananaHello? anyone know of a rage 128 driver?09:33
Arafangi1nintelikey: Ok, the alternative is how do I enforce a umask for that particular volume, such that permissions are always 777?09:33
Arafangi1nsimpsonianbanana: rage is ati, isn't it?09:33
simpsonianbananayes09:33
Madpilotsimpsonianbanana: not sure there is one, but try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:33
simpsonianbananathx09:34
Arafangi1nsimpsonianbanana: I think that site also mentions various cards, and what to use the opensource driver for, and the commercial drivers for.09:34
intelikeyArafangi1n could run a cron job to chmod things every hour or something09:34
Arafangi1nintelikey: Not acceptable.09:34
intelikeybecause ?09:34
Arafangi1nintelikey: There is no way I'm going to have a cronjob run to reset the permissions of 10000 files in the middle of a lecture while I'm on battery power.09:35
intelikeyso this is all on a lappy eeh ?09:36
Arafangi1nintelikey: It gets shared amongst my computers.09:36
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Arafangi1nintelikey: Which is why I want it to work with gnome-volume-manager by default, because I don't want to spend hours configuring everything.09:36
Arafangi1nintelikey: But most of the time it stays with my laptop.09:37
intelikeyand it's not acceptable to use dd and break files that are over 4g into sections ?09:39
Arafangi1nintelikey: I suppose that at a pinch, I could live with just dedicating the removable drive with the laptop, but that's a pain.09:39
Arafangi1nintelikey: No, because qemu can't read them!09:39
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vincenzAnyone have a solution over amsn, half of my messages don't get through09:39
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vincenz(for msn)09:40
Arafangi1nintelikey: Though, I wouldn't use dd for that, I'd use "split", but that's a digression ;)09:40
Arafangi1nvincenz: I use jabber, with an msn transport.09:40
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vincenzArafangi1n: does it support http_proxy for all protocols?09:40
Arafangi1nvincenz: Yes.09:40
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vincenz.O09:40
vincenzgaim doesn't for instance09:40
ndlovuintelikey: I've had some success with grep, output to a text file, which I then open with less; but for some reason the character set gets corrupted, and after a while, all text comes out like this:  . actually my whole terminal session gets corrupted. any idea why?09:41
Arafangi1nvincenz: psi does, but that's qt09:41
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vincenzpsi?09:41
vincenzjabber?09:41
vincenzcan't find either in synaptic09:41
intelikeyyeah i've got a few.....  lol09:41
intelikeybut i'll keep them to my self09:42
Arafangi1nvincenz: Jabber is a protocol, psi, gaim, gabber, et al are all clients09:42
vincenza09:42
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vincenzArafangi1n: but hmm..I need the msn protocol09:42
odatanyone know the command to use to see what ip address my router is giving my computer09:42
vincenzand gaim doesn't do proxying09:42
vincenzgabber is non existent in synaptic09:42
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vincenzand amsn dropps half my messages09:42
Arafangi1nvincenz: Jabber has a notion of "transports", and the servers themselves do the proxying for you.09:42
vincenzo.O09:42
thelsdjndlovu: if you don't want to look at the binary data just run 'strings' on the file09:42
vincenzArafangi1n: no I need http-proxying to get past my firewall09:43
CyPhEr__hey guys i have a little prob09:43
ndlovuthelsdj: does that strip the binary data out?09:43
hatake_kakashivincenz: then you need http-tunnel09:43
vincenzhatake_kakashi: yes09:43
Arafangi1nvincenz: Try: sudo apt-get install psi09:43
CyPhEr__anytome i open something like network settings it looks like its opening and then nothing happens and then it closes09:43
intelikeyndlovu a grep -ve <put offending char here>  to cut out the code that breaks your termcap maybe ?09:43
CyPhEr__please help09:43
hatake_kakashivincenz: google around, you may find some09:44
vincenzhatake_kakashi: ...09:44
vincenzhatake_kakashi: amsn does it, it just drops half my packets09:44
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ndlovuthelsdj, intelikey: strings seems to be doing the trick :). Probably grep > strings > file would work best?09:44
vincenzhalf the messages I type I get "there was an error sending the following message:" ...09:44
hatake_kakashivincenz: well you can get things like your-freedom or something09:44
CyPhEr__anyone09:45
Arafangi1nvincenz: So, does that command work?09:45
thelsdjndlovu: you could also do strings|grep > file09:45
Arafangi1nvincenz: You will need to enable universe.09:45
thelsdjbut ya grep|strings > file will work09:45
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intelikeyndlovu like  grep -ve'' file | grep -ve'' | less       Repete the second grep portion as many times as needed....09:45
vincenzArafangi1n: I checked out the package, I'd like to know first if it supports http-proxying09:45
hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: run that application in command line, if you can't see any output, set verbose messages on09:45
Arafangi1nvincenz: Heck, it supports http polling.09:45
CyPhEr__ok first time user09:45
Arafangi1nvincenz: But I'll have to check up on that again to figure out how to do that.09:45
CyPhEr__y cant i just click09:46
hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: you know how to open Terminal right?09:46
CyPhEr__yes09:46
hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: open that, and type in the command to start that networking..09:46
vincenzArafangi1n: so I can contact my regular msn account and talk to other msn peoeople from my friends list with that?09:46
CyPhEr__i still should be able to click and configure09:46
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intelikeybut you are still likely to get garbage. ndlovu    if it were something you could just re down load i'd say why bother with hacking that .....09:46
Arafangi1nvincenz: Actually, now that I think of it, gaim _does_ allow proxies.09:47
Arafangi1nvincenz: In what sense do you need a proxy?09:47
vincenzArafangi1n: all data must go over the proxy09:47
Arafangi1nvincenz: gaim does support that.09:47
vincenzthat's why I have a perl script for my ssh09:47
vincenzArafangi1n: nope09:47
odatanyone know the command to use to see what ip address my router is giving my computer09:47
Arafangi1nvincenz: Ok, so you're not just talking about a mere squid proxy, right?09:47
ndlovuintelikey: thanks, but there's one file in particular that I've spent a few hours constructing. it's just text; the rest I can construct again09:47
vincenzArafangi1n: squid?09:47
vincenzArafangi1n: even my ssh connection must go over this proxy09:48
vincenzit's not just for outward port 809:48
vincenz8009:48
vincenzit's for all ports09:48
hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: if you are going to be that stubborn, then you won't get much to help you09:48
vincenz"I connect to the initernet using a proxy server: HTTP (Post Method)" is my option in amsn09:48
Arafangi1nvincenz: I'm looking at my gaim "Modify Account" window, and I'm reading "Proxy Options"09:48
vincenzArafangi1n: it doesn't do it09:48
CyPhEr__i mean you jsut expect something to work first time i dont want to have to go the the term everytime i wana change something09:49
Arafangi1nvincenz: It's there.09:49
vincenzArafangi1n: it's not sufficient09:49
Arafangi1nvincenz: username/password isn't enough?09:49
intelikeyodat ifconfig  if no one answered you yet09:49
vincenzI don't need a login09:49
vincenzI need the HTTP (Post Method) option and it's not available in gaim09:49
vincenztrust me, I've tried09:49
vincenzit doesn't work09:49
intelikeyvincenz using it over tor ?09:50
simpsonianbananastill found nothing for rage 128's09:50
vincenzintelikey: no, company proxy09:50
Arafangi1nvincenz: Hmm, well psi definetly supports HTTP "Connect", and HTTP Polling.09:50
vincenzArafangi1n: it's http post09:50
vincenzthat's the method I need09:50
vincenzwhatever that means09:50
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vincenzI'm a networking newb, but I know that it doesn't work with gaim09:51
Arafangi1nvincenz: Gaim probably uses "Connect" as well.09:51
vincenz...09:51
vincenzArafangi1n: I tried, it doesn't work09:51
Arafangi1nvincenz: Give polling a go, with psi.09:51
Arafangi1nvincenz: I'm just about to check it myself.09:51
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vincenzwhat is polling?09:51
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Arafangi1nvincenz: afaik, it polls a http file.09:51
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vincenzI don't need to poll anything09:51
Arafangi1nvincenz: Continuously. It's a hack, but it gets past lame firewalls/proxies.09:52
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ManticeYou know how to get past our SINA firewall09:52
vincenzfor ssh, for instance, it opens a pipe to the webproxy server and pipes all dat athrough it09:52
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hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: and I presume you are using dapper aren't you?09:54
agabusdoes anyone know if ftp.iinet.net.au is mirroring the dapper drake fight 4 iso's?09:54
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CyPhEr__Dapper= adapter09:54
Mordofquestion: i have a script that exits X. how do i make it login with a username and password i want?09:54
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CyPhEr__and yes a cisco09:54
hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: which version of Ubuntu are you running?09:55
Arafangi1nvincenz: Well, other than that, I don't know.09:55
CyPhEr__newest 5.1009:55
Arafangi1nvincenz: It is an alternative, and it should work.09:55
vincenzArafangi1n: for Gaim when I enable proxy it sais "Access denied: proxy server forbids port 1863 tunnelling"09:56
CyPhEr__i just go to system and then network setup or like time and date and loginscreen i get it start to launch the little spinning logo goes and then the little indicaor goes away and nothing09:56
hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: did you download anything from the universe repos?09:56
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hatake_kakashiuniverse/multiverse09:56
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CyPhEr__i cant get in on the net at all09:57
Arafangi1nvincenz: Yup, it's blocking the port.09:57
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hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: check your router, firewall09:57
tburmananyone else have a problem with totem not playing any media at all?09:57
vincenzArafangi1n: it works finie with msn09:57
tburmanmp3, video, whatever09:57
Crazyhobbitmoinsen09:57
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vincenzArafangi1n: don't you get it, Gaim doesn't use the proxy in the correct way09:57
hatake_kakashitburman: you need gstreamer + w32plugins09:57
Crazyhobbitwhats wrong here? :)09:57
Arafangi1nvincenz: I'm saying psi will get past it.09:57
CyPhEr__did and i stil doesnt explain why i can not open the time and everything09:57
vincenzI'll look into it09:58
_keroppi_I'm trying to get the fglrx driver working, but X windows says it can't find the module. I just had this working fine in Debian unstable, now I've installed ubuntu dapper...09:58
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hatake_kakashi_keroppi_: dapper = unstable09:58
_keroppi_hatake_kakashi: Yeah I know that09:58
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_keroppi_I have this file: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so, and X says it's can't find the fglrx module when it tries to start09:58
hatake_kakashi_keroppi_: doesn't mean literally that if debian's unstable worked, ubuntu's unstable will work09:59
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Mordof_keroppi_: linux-restricted-modules has flgrx09:59
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hatake_kakashiCyPhEr__: well I don't know, there are no buttons to make it show debug messages without typing a few lines09:59
_keroppi_Mordof: What is that? A package?09:59
Mordof_keroppi_: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)09:59
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cybliviousneed your help guys, everytime i mount/access any ntfs partitions, the mouse mouse freezes every few seconds or becomes jerky. What could be the problem?10:00
CyPhEr__k welll ill be back on im reinstalling10:00
CyPhEr__wipe and reload10:00
hatake_kakashiMordof: why not sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ?10:00
Mordofhatake_kakashi: *shrugs*, whats the difference10:00
hatake_kakashicyblivious: check dmesg10:00
_keroppi_Mordof: That just removed some openoffice stuff and kept gcc and g++ back...10:00
cybliviousdmesg?10:01
Mordof_keroppi_: :|10:01
Manticecan I install ubuntu in a usb hard drive?10:01
Mordof_keroppi_: i dunno then10:01
_keroppi_Mordof: What was it supposed to do? Same as apt-get -f install?10:01
Mantice...Loading?10:01
BoglizkMy splashscreen changed to Edubuntu and the font on the desktop aswell10:01
hatake_kakashiMordof: heh afaik for putting `` it quotes bash to open up that other command as well.. such as ls -al /usr/src/`uname -r`10:01
Boglizkweird10:01
Mordofhatake_kakashi: ohh10:01
ManticeNo one installed ubuntu on a USB hard drive?10:02
tburmanhatake_kakashi, gstreamer 0.8 as it comes is ok?10:02
hatake_kakashi_keroppi_: doubt it10:02
hatake_kakashitburman: what do you mean its 'ok'?10:02
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hatake_kakashicyblivious: dmesg = kernel messages10:02
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Sputn1kHello, i'm playing one windows game with wine, but there is no fonts, how to add them?10:02
leleobhzi have installed my ubuntu from hoary (5.04)10:03
tburmanhatake_kakashi, well, I read a forum post that suggested 0.8 was outdated10:03
BoglizkAutomatic has the windows fonts10:03
intelikeycyblivious run top and then do the mouse trick and watch to see if the reason shows itself10:03
Boglizk*Automatix10:03
leleobhz(a cd from shipit)10:03
MadpilotSputn1k: install the MS core fonts10:03
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Madpilot!automatix10:03
ubotuautomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.10:03
leleobhzi can make a dist upgrade to Breezy?10:03
hatake_kakashitburman: well it works here afaik, and it seems to be available in the repos as well10:03
Sputn1kMadpilot, i have them, maybie i should connect them with wine, or womething?10:04
Sputn1k*something10:04
Madpilotleleobhz: yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:04
hatake_kakashi!tell Boglizk about automatix10:04
Boglizki got it10:04
leleobhzthanks Madpilot !10:04
MadpilotSputn1k: no idea about wine - never had to use it10:04
tburmanhatake_kakashi, ok. will try installing w32plugins. is there a separate repository for them?10:04
Sputn1koh... ;-/ thanks.10:04
hatake_kakashi!tell tburman about !mp310:05
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hatake_kakashi!tell tburman about mp310:05
intelikeyMantice no i haven't installed on a usb drive but i see people in here all the time that have.   it can be done but there are some special considerations,  search the forums  for usb drive  and see if there isn't some help there.10:05
BoglizkI have some problems, My splashscreen changed to Edubuntu and the font on the desktop changed aswell, i think it was since i updated something with Synaptic10:05
tburmanhatake_kakashi, thanks10:05
hatake_kakashitburman: np10:05
leleobhzMadpilot: have some problem if i have package universe?10:07
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davidehi all10:07
leleobhzsource10:07
chxif I do a dist-upgrade to Dapper and things do not work out,  can I downgrade?10:07
davideI have a prob10:07
davideI cannot hear any CD audio with gnome-cd10:07
davidebut CD drive does work10:07
Boglizkcheck the volume?10:07
davideand I can listen with other progs10:08
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davideBoglizk, volume is ok10:08
hatake_kakashichx: no10:08
jetscreamerbackup your system first and kinda10:08
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hatake_kakashidavide: you can hear normal sounds from Gnome but not from cd right? you are missing an audio cable that wires from cdrom to your soundcard10:09
davidehatake_kakashi, no10:09
davideI can hear with another prog to listen to CD10:09
davide[dcd] 10:09
hatake_kakashihmm10:09
chxthanks.10:09
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davidehatake_kakashi, I opened my case too and the cable there is10:09
hatake_kakashidavide: maybe those two use different soundserver I think10:10
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davidethe mixer shows me OSS and ALSA10:10
davideboth are non-mute for CD's10:10
FlashDoes anyone know where the "Terminal" is in Ubuntu v5.10?10:10
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davideapplications --> accessories10:10
hatake_kakashiFlash: Applications > System Tools10:10
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cybliviousintelikey: i run top then mounted the ntfs. the gam_server appeared with the most cpu utilization10:11
davidehatake_kakashi, what can I try?10:11
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FlashAhh... Accesories!  Thank you davide10:11
leleobhzlast ask10:12
davideFlash, the termins is in system tools too :)10:12
hatake_kakashidavide: hmm.. nfi, which program cannot play the music from the cd?10:12
Chameleonanyone know if wineX is free10:12
leleobhzi can use debian-marillat on ubuntu?10:12
davidegnome-cd10:12
hatake_kakashiChameleon: check their site10:12
overriderwhen i have a .deb file (in my case i got the skype.deb package). what is the command to install it?10:12
Chameleonok if i knew ther site i would10:12
davideoverrider, dpkg -i <file>10:12
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hatake_kakashiChameleon: that's where google is your friend10:13
Chameleonlol10:13
overriderdavide, thank you10:13
Madpilotleleobhz: not recommended10:13
davideoverrider, you need sudo if you are not root10:13
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davideoverrider, however use the graphical package manager10:14
ChameleonNO google is my home page10:14
leleobhzMadpilot: some alternative?10:14
davidedon't download crappy packages god-knows-where10:14
leleobhzi just want w32codecs and mplayer10:14
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Madpilot!tell leleobhz about w32codecs10:14
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hatake_kakashimplayer is from multiverse repo10:14
Madpilotleleobhz: mplayer is in Universe, I think10:14
hatake_kakashi!tell leleobhz about multiverse10:15
catoblepahallo, does anyone know a channel about VPN?10:15
davidehatake_kakashi, any idea?10:15
leleobhzhmmm10:15
gary__Can anyone tell me how to make the cdplayer the default application when i insert an audio cd?10:15
leleobhzits very good10:15
leleobhz:] 10:15
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hatake_kakashidavide: haven't tried gnome-cd, hang on10:15
leleobhzthanks guys10:16
Madpilotleleobhz: thank the bot, it does most of the actual work around here :P10:16
leleobhz:] 10:16
leleobhzis someone dont operate the bot, it is unuserfull10:16
leleobhz:] 10:16
hatake_kakashidavide: lol, seems like gnome-cd has got very minimal configurations, hmm not sure.. maybe run the program through terminal and if necessary add verbose output?10:16
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turtlesoupHi, i just managed to get ubuntu installed on my fujitsu tablet pc. I however have no GUI, what can i do to fix this? I only have CLI10:18
gary__Can anyone tell me how to make the cdplayer the default application when i insert an audio cd?10:18
leleobhzMadpilot: i have removed my sources.list10:18
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pingyHello, all10:18
leleobhzand put from the url10:18
leleobhzpray for me :] 10:18
ndlovuintelikey, thelsdj: thanks for the suggestions earlier, grep and strings worked amazingly well! (grep -B -A --binary-files=text "search expression" /dev/hda9 | strings > lostfiles.txt)10:19
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leleobhz(i ve maked dist-upgrade on debian 3x, all times im unhappy)10:19
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turtlesoupis there something that i can run from Apt-Get that will repair my failed installation of ubuntu?10:21
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davidehatake_kakashi, no --verbose / -vv or similar in gnome-cd --help10:22
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turtlesoupi only have CLI after ubuntu network install, how can i get my GUI?10:23
hatake_kakashidavide: wait.. I can sort of see why, are you on breezy and have you installed gstreamer?10:23
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: invoke-rc.d gdm restart10:23
davideI'm on 5.10, I don't remember if it's named breezy10:23
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: thanks :)10:24
Madpilotdavide: yeah, 5.10 = Breezy Badger10:24
hatake_kakashidavide: yeah it is breezy, dapper is 6.10 I think10:24
hatake_kakashidavide: now.. do you have gstreamer installed?10:24
Madpilothatake_kakashi: 6.0410:24
davideI don't know if I have gstreamer [I'm looking] 10:24
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hatake_kakashiMadpilot: ahh ok, my bad10:24
hatake_kakashidavide: dpkg --list| grep gstreamer10:24
davideI have a lot of gstreamer10:24
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turtlesouphatake_kakashi: it says,  unknown initscript. /etc/init.d/gdm not found10:25
hatake_kakashidavide: try and set the debug output of gstreamer under gnome-cd10:25
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hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: are you sure you have install ubuntu-desktop or?10:25
hatake_kakashis/install/installed10:26
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: i used a thing called INSTLUX on top of windows to pull this off, then used network install10:26
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: well.. did you apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?10:26
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: you helped me yesterday, my screen name was tortoise10:26
davidehatake_kakashi, I've written debug level 2, here the output10:27
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: no, didnt know i had too10:27
davide** (gnome-cd:23691): WARNING **: Could not contact CDDB server10:27
davideWARN  (0x82839e8 - 316809:26:14.163320000)       GST_SCHEDULING(23691) gstpad.c(3255):_invent_event: needed to invent a DISCONT 0x8078b60 (time 0) for cdparanoia:src => q:sink10:27
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: ahh, you had that tablet pc I presume right?10:27
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turtlesouphatake_kakashi: yes :)10:27
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turtlesouphatake_kakashi: at least now i have SOMETHING ubuntu on it :)10:27
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: well wb :) you might want to get ubuntu-desktop. 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' that should get literally all the requirements I think10:27
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: thanks alot ! i will try10:28
hatake_kakashidavide: hmm that gstream warning seems interesting, yet I cannot interpret fully10:28
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: np10:28
davideIf i write level 3 I get a loooot more10:29
hatake_kakashiok, you may need pastebin this time round if there is alot more :)10:29
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: a large list scrolled by, now i am back at CLI. did it work?10:29
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: I presume there was a yes or no at the bottom, if it did asks that, its only because there is alot to install, and for that case I would say yes10:30
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overridersorry i have one more question: when i run dpkg -i skype.deb to istall it, it errors out due to dependencies. is there a switch i can use to recursive install all the required stuff?10:30
hatake_kakashioverrider: that's where apt-get comes into play10:31
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: no question came up, just dropped me back at CLI10:31
ygueronHello  there everyone.10:31
overriderhatake_kakashi, but apt-get install skype.deb doesnt work of course10:31
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: hmm, what was the last line being mentioned before dropping back to CLI?10:31
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hatake_kakashioverrider: apt-get install skype10:31
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: E:Broken Packages10:31
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: hmm.. Dapper or Breezy?10:32
overriderhatake_kakashi, im sure i tried that, doesnt find anything..wil try again right now though10:32
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: breezy10:32
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ygueronQuestion : After apt-get update how can I choose to list a package ?10:33
stjepanhi10:33
hatake_kakashioverrider: if not, there are some other repos out there (not part of official ubuntu/etc) but may work, however if things break, you are pretty much on your own10:33
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: odd10:33
hatake_kakashiygueron: you can't10:33
overriderhatake_kakashi, ok, so apt-get install skype tells me the same thing about missing dependencies...10:33
stjepanI always have to manually run kdm/gdm :(( why? any ideas?10:33
hatake_kakashiygueron: correction apt-cache search <name>10:33
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: this install has been very tough, i probably messed it up eral good :)10:33
overriderhatake_kakashi, i will try to find a good tutorial about apt-get10:33
davidehatake_kakashi, http://phpfi.com/10327910:33
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: there probably is a way, I presume you did not edit the sources.list ?10:34
davidehatake_kakashi, synaptic10:34
takku^i'm trying to use remote desktop from my windows computer to ubuntu with xming.. and it gives me te login screen at start but after login in it gives orange screen for few minutes and then goes back to start login screen10:34
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davideops10:34
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: no, i did not10:34
davideoverrider, synaptic10:34
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: is there a way i can tell it to just go and download verything and update it?10:34
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hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: that is what I am not too sure of myself I'm afraid10:35
turtlesouphatake10:35
turtlesoupoops10:35
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: thanks anyway!10:35
davideturtlesoup, pardon, no package in synaptic10:35
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ygueronhatake_kakashi, Thanks Hatake10:35
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turtlesoup<----confused10:36
hatake_kakashiygueron: np10:36
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hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: np, hmm there has to be a way though.. maybe search the forum whilst you are on elinks/lynx ? :)10:36
davideoverrider, http://tntmax.com/content/view/176/60/10:36
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: i will look10:37
hatake_kakashidavide: that will take sometime for me to analyse, I'm not too sure about this whole thing either.. which reminds me, is there a channel for gstreamer or something?10:37
davidei don't know, /list-ing10:38
davidehatake_kakashi, oh yes :)10:38
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: is elinks/lynz a website?10:38
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: no, its console internet browser10:38
hatake_kakashidoesn't support images however :) and no mouse support afaik on ubuntu10:39
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: how will that help? i have my desktop that works. maybe i misunderstood?10:39
overriderdavide, hey thanks. though i thought it would be easier than that. like on other systems it can download and install dependencies automatically. i thought apt-get would do that too10:39
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hatake_kakashidavide: do you have esound installed? dpkg --list| grep esound10:39
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hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: ahh I thought you were chatting on the console via irssi and on that tablet10:39
davideoverrider, you can read here too http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=4294210:39
turtlesouphatake-kakashi: LOL, i dont know how to do that yet :)10:40
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: ahh ok.. well I assumed too much :)10:40
davidehatake_kakashi, yes10:40
turtlesouphatake10:40
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turtlesoupgiuves me too much credit10:40
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: well.. at least you have desktop to surf the internet, so that's better than nothing10:40
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turtlesouphatake_kakashi: true, but i dont know how to check things to see where i went wrong10:41
hatake_kakashidavide: hmm, because I can see this thing requires both gstreamer and esound?.. there is one odd thing.. last time I tried getting gstreamer or something, it said that it will have to remove esound as a result. I said yes and the package for esound was uninstalled.. hmm10:41
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: ah ok10:41
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davidehatake_kakashi, I haven't manually installed esound or gstreamer10:42
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davideI'm in a fairly standard installation10:42
davide[I've installed yesterday] 10:42
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stjepanwhat a cool osx video: http://www.williamhughes.net/mac_amd.avi btw whats that moving windows in osx?? :-o10:43
frederik_hi there, i just installed ubuntu on my acer latop. i was wondering how i can set the refreshrate higher of the videocard? its only option is 6010:43
stjepanI would like to have that feature in ubutnu too :010:43
stjepan:)10:43
frederik_do i need to alter a file?10:43
davidefrederik_, vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:43
frederik_ty10:43
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davidehowever only make number you are sure about10:44
davides/make/write/10:44
frederik_smake write? is that for me too?10:44
davidefrederik_, yes10:44
frederik_yes, i know 70 is ok in windows10:44
davidetry change there10:44
frederik_what do u mean with that?10:44
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davides = substitute10:45
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benchohi10:45
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davideit was a correction of the previous sentence10:45
frederik_oh vim controls, i see :) ty10:45
davidevim / sed / etc etc etc10:45
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turtlesouphatake_kakashi: what is the command to reinstall all the GUI stuff?10:46
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hatake_kakashidavide: not quite sure I'm afraid, you may need to try and ask the gnome-devs or gstremer-devs10:46
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davidehatake_kakashi, already asking10:46
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: reinstall all the GUI stuff? hmm10:46
davide:)10:46
hatake_kakashidavide: ahh ok10:46
davidetnx anyway10:46
hatake_kakashidavide: np, couldn't help much though10:47
davidehatake_kakashi, another question10:47
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davidedo you know how to change the resolution ... I have edited xorg.conf like I was accostumated10:47
davidebut no changes ...10:47
davidegnome use a different conf file?10:47
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: maybe apt-get install xserver-xorg ?10:48
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: i just realized that i was using network install, and it stopped at one point, so i inserted my ubuntu CD, that i downloaded for my P4 box. i think is it i686, this tablet is a P3, could that be problem?10:48
thegladiatori changed firefox's theme10:48
hatake_kakashidavide: imo, I think gnome relies on xorg config file, maybe you need to logout and log back in again?10:48
thegladiatorits not working anymore10:48
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: it is working on something :)10:48
davidehatake_kakashi, already done ^_^'''10:49
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: it shouldn't be anyway10:49
hatake_kakashidavide: and didn't work? -_-10:49
davideno10:49
hatake_kakashihmm..10:49
hsm-_-..10:49
thegladiatorhey I changed the FF theme and now its not working anymore10:49
hatake_kakashiwell, its beyond my knowledge again I'm afraid10:49
davideargh ... :-\10:50
thegladiatorerror comes up saying some program exception and "do you want to send this error repot stuff"10:50
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davidenor me10:50
hatake_kakashi:)10:50
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: i certainly appreciate all your help10:50
davideI'm wmaker person ;P10:50
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: np10:50
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hatake_kakashidavide: ahh yes I messed with that once or twice, its not bad but a bit awkward to use at times :)10:51
davidefor me it's the opposite :)10:51
hatake_kakashidavide: heh I can imagine10:52
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turtlesouphow do i shutdown and restatr from the CLI? i tried help, but i must be doing it wrong10:52
BoglizkDoes anyone have an idea how my splashscreen changed form ubuntu to edubuntu?10:52
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hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: shutdown and restart which app?10:53
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: i just want to restart the whole machine10:53
hatake_kakashiBoglizk: you probably got edubuntu themes or something by accident10:53
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hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: init 610:53
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Boglizkhatake: yeah thats probably it.. i dled some GNOME themes yesterday10:54
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: i just type init 6 ?10:54
davideturtlesoup, man shutdown too10:54
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turtlesoupcool ! thanks guys !10:54
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hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: imo that should work, if not reboot I think also works or something10:54
davideshutdown -P I think10:54
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: that worked :)10:55
hatake_kakashibut init 6 sets up the initialisation mode to 6 which is usually reboot10:55
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thegladiatorcan someone tell me what shud I do  ? FF 1.5 in my system , I installed some   theme and the borwser is not working any more10:55
thegladiatori need browser very much!10:55
Boglizkuninstall the theme10:55
turtlesoupdavise: thanks10:56
thegladiator/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}10:56
turtlesoupdavide: thanks10:56
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zebraFusionthegladiator, if you can't launch firefox, you want to try 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox10:56
thegladiatorzebraFusion, its 1.510:56
turtlesouphatake_kakashi: i see the ubuntu splash screen, everything seemed fine, now i am back at CLI10:56
Boglizkthanks for the help, i'm out10:57
Unicorn_Gigglesanyone know how to turn a .svg file into a .xpm for the application icon?10:57
SemleHi, anyone know how big the default installation is on 5.10 ?10:57
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MadpilotSemle: about 1.8Gb10:57
davideturtlesoup, de rien10:57
thegladiatorMadpilot, i m getting this error in FF /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}10:57
SemleMadpilot: thanks10:57
MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: AFAIK you can use SVG for icons10:57
turtlesoupdavise: huh?10:58
thegladiatorits version 1.5 , it all happened after I installed aa theme10:58
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turtlesoupdavide: huh?10:58
Madpilotthegladiator: no idea, I never run Firefox10:58
thegladiatoryou can use SVG for icons10:58
thegladiatoranyone who has some FF experience ?10:58
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thegladiatorhow can I remove the options file for FF ?10:58
Unicorn_Giggleswould I need to just make a ln -s to point to the .svg file, or just rename it?10:58
intelikey   every time my isp resets my modem connection, with this system, the pppd is unkillable it keeps saying it's busy and burping out an error message to stderr (repets about every 3 seconds)   i can rm the modules that pppd uses and kill it but sometimes it also panics the kernel.  so that is not the way to go....  if i use ctrl+alt+del  it reboots ok but it fails to umount /  and thus i get two reboots and fs errors.   any 10:58
thegladiatori suspect the themes caused it to crash10:58
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davideturtlesoup, I don't know the english translation for "de rien", like "of nothing" :)10:58
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maniacoshi10:58
turtlesoupdavide: i see10:59
ygueronQuestion : Need to install compat-libstdc++ 2.96. Ay idea where to get and how to install ?10:59
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thegladiatorthis is the error :/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}10:59
maniacoshow can i work with rar using file-roller on ubuntu and gnome?10:59
Madpilot!rar10:59
ubotusomebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression10:59
maniacosthanx11:00
thegladiatorhow can I remove the "configuration file" for firefox  ? i changed the theme and ever since it is not working11:00
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turtlesoupis there a command i can use from CLI that will check and resolve all dependancy problems?11:01
thegladiatorthis is the error : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}11:01
intelikeyof course you know i'm going to repost that question...... i've learned from the newbies....11:01
davideturtlesoup, you can also use reboot and halt11:01
thegladiatorlast and final call , does anyone know about this firefox issue ? my FF simply crashed after installing a theme ...the error is /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}11:01
turtlesoupdavide: how do i do that? and what will it do?11:02
davideturtlesoup, and poweroff which should be halt -p11:02
davidepoweroff = halt -p11:02
davidereboot = shutdown -r ??11:02
thegladiatorfirefox talkback stuff comes right after the crash11:02
intelikeyturtlesoup yes.  man apt-get      man dpkg    man aptitude    any of those can11:02
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turtlesoupintelikey:thanks for the input :)11:02
davideturtlesoup, sorry, not your last question11:02
redbladeGood Evening Everyone!11:02
davideI was on the previous ;P11:03
Unicorn_GigglesMadpilot, do I have to rename the .svg to be a .png, or just make a symbolic link?11:03
davideturtlesoup, dpkg -f apt-get -f or something with -f11:03
redbladeI finally got my server sort of running (lol).11:03
turtlesoupdavide: i see11:03
ygueronQuestion : Need to install compat-libstdc++ 2.96. Ay idea where to get and how to install ?11:03
davideI don't remember if it's apt-get install -f11:03
davideor dpkg -f11:03
intelikeyits sudo apt-get -f install11:03
turtlesoupintelikey: what does that do?11:03
davideresolve troubles like not present deps11:04
intelikeyman apt-get      try to learn   rather than just asking11:04
turtlesoupi did that, nothing changed ?????11:04
concept10Anyone know how to disable the Gnome sounds in gnome-terminal?11:04
intelikeywhat error you get turtlesoup ?11:05
turtlesoupintelikey: hard to learn, when you know absolutely nothing11:05
redbladeBut for some reason, I need to continually start Apache (2.2.0) manually!11:05
redbladeDoes anyone know why?11:05
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turtlesoupintelikey: it says nothing installed, upgraded etc...11:05
intelikeyeasier to learn whenyou know nothing than when you know everything11:05
MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: just use it as an svg11:05
turtlesoupintelikey: probably some truth to that11:05
intelikeyturtlesoup then your dependancies are ok.11:05
intelikeynothing is broken.11:06
concept10redblade, run a older version of apache11:06
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turtlesoupintelikey: so why doesn't my GUI start?11:06
redbladeconcept 10, why?11:06
concept10redblade, such as the 1.3.x branch or the 2.0.blah brach11:06
turtlesoupi dont understand what the peoblem is here, i dont understand the CONCEPT  here LOL11:06
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intelikeyprobably because you have you have misconfigured it turtlesoup11:06
turtlesoupintelikey: how can i check and see if i did?11:07
intelikeyturtlesoup sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:07
concept10redblade, you never want to run bleeding edge on the webserver11:07
turtlesoupintelikey: ok , thankx i will try11:07
intelikeyread every question and answer them correctly11:07
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intelikey   every time my isp resets my modem connection, with this system, the pppd is unkillable it keeps saying it's busy and burping out an error message to stderr (repetes about every 3 seconds)   i can rm the modules that pppd uses and kill it but sometimes it also panics the kernel.  so that is not the way to go....  if i use ctrl+alt+del  it reboots ok but it fails to umount /  and thus i get two reboots and fs errors.   any11:08
redbladeconcept10. what do you mean?11:08
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MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: please ask before you pm - thanks11:08
intelikeyanyone with knowledge   ^11:09
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intelikeyneed a guru            ^11:09
MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: for what you want it for, you'll have to convert it from SVG, I guess. Use Inkscape's Export as Bitmap function and make it into a PNG11:09
concept10redblade, I mean this:  Run a older version of apache instead of the newer versions, when you run a webserver you want to run well tested solutions11:09
redbladeOh! I see.11:10
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redbladeAlthough I have just set every thing up with this one (MySQL, PHP)11:10
Unicorn_GigglesOK, I'll give that a go. Thanks11:10
RemyLaptophi folks11:11
redbladeIsn't there a way to fix this problem?11:11
redbladehi11:11
RemyLaptopget a noobie question for you :-)11:11
Unicorn_Gigglessorry :)11:11
RemyLaptop*got11:11
redbladeWhat is it?11:11
RemyLaptophttp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/  <--  I would've thought the image would be there to download11:11
RemyLaptopbut noooooo11:11
MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: no problem - you might have to install Inkscape, it's a great SVG graphics tool - very cool11:11
RemyLaptopit's not.11:11
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RemyLaptopI'm trying to d/l breezy from my isp's FTP server to save me the traffic...11:12
RemyLaptopbut I can't find it on there11:12
redbladeI see what you mean.11:12
RemyLaptopjust files called debian-cd_info.tar.gz11:12
Unicorn_GigglesI got Inkscape, and am slowly learning how to use it11:12
redbladeI'm not sure, I'm fairly new too.11:12
RemyLaptopwhich ain't gonna do much11:12
RemyLaptop:-P11:12
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intelikey   every time my isp resets my modem connection, with this system, the pppd is unkillable it keeps saying it's busy and burping out an error message to stderr (repetes about every 3 seconds)   i can rm the modules that pppd uses and kill it but sometimes it also panics the kernel.  so that is not the way to go....  if i use ctrl+alt+del  it reboots ok but it fails to umount /  and thus i get two reboots and fs errors.   any11:13
turtlesoupdavide: i did the xserver reconfigure thing, i am still getting dropped to a CLI, any ideas?  it is a fujitsu stylistic LT P-600 tablet pc11:13
intelikeyone more time           need the experts  here   ^11:14
davideturtlesoup, exactly what happens?11:14
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turtlesoupdavide: it starts up and i see the ubuntu splash screen where is says it is setting up alsa and things like that, then i just get dropped to CLI11:14
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MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: great Inkscape tutorial/manual here: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/11:15
intelikeyturtlesoup run startx and see what it does11:15
Scarboroughhaving some ff problems, when I start it up it asks me if I want to make a new profile, wtf is that?11:15
turtlesoupintelikey: OK i will try11:15
intelikeyturtlesoup it will either start the xserver or give error messages.11:16
RemyLaptopanyone know what initrd files do ?11:16
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turtlesoupintelikey: it says command not found11:16
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intelikeyyep RemyLaptop it starts your system.    initrd = initial ram disk11:17
turtlesoupintelikey: what is the proper syntax?11:17
RemyLaptopk11:17
intelikeyturtlesoup    startx11:17
RemyLaptopso if I have an initrd file, what would I be meant to do with it ?11:17
RemyLaptopput it on a CD or something ?11:17
turtlesoupintelikey: command not found11:17
Alexi5hello11:17
redbladeconcept10, I really would like to try running this version and just fix the problem.11:17
intelikeyturtlesoup echo $PATH11:18
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Unicorn_Gigglesawesome, finally got it :)11:18
intelikeyand lets see the out put.... one line only11:18
intelikeyRemyLaptop you leave it alone.   so you system can boot next time11:18
MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: you're customizing your desktop to put unicorns everywhere?11:18
concept10redblade, i cant help on 2.2, havent used it before, are you using breezy or dapper?11:18
redbladebreezy11:19
turtlesoupintelikey: i am confused, it says command not found, exactly what do i type?11:19
intelikeyecho $PATH11:19
intelikeyecho "$PATH"11:19
intelikeyif you like11:19
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RemyLaptopintelikey, I've just downloaded one that is meant to go with breezy...11:20
RemyLaptophttp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/11:20
RemyLaptopfrom there11:20
RemyLaptopis that meant to be like an install CD that then downloads the files for me ?11:20
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turtlesoupintelikey: it says     /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games      hope i typed that right :)11:21
intelikeyRemyLaptop if you are trying to do a net install or something you will need to ger a kernel also and boot it somehow.11:21
RemyLaptophm, bugger.11:21
RemyLaptopall I want to do is download the latest breezy from my ISPs ftp server...11:22
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RemyLaptopfor some strange reason, that's all they appear to have...11:22
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intelikeyturtlesoup and    startx   is command not found ?11:22
RemyLaptopjust those four files11:22
RemyLaptopno img file :(11:22
turtlesoupintelikey: correct11:22
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intelikeyturtlesoup sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:22
turtlesoupintelikey: OK, i will try, thanks!11:23
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RemyLaptopintelikey, is there any easy way to upgrade to breezy ?11:23
RemyLaptopwithout having to manually download an image file and create a cd of the install ?11:23
MadpilotRemyLaptop: that looks more like a full Ubuntu repo mirror...11:23
gnomefreak!upgrade11:23
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:23
turtlesoupintelikey: a large list scrolled by,i am back at CLI. last line was: E:Broken Packages11:24
intelikeyRemyLaptop easy.... matter of openion. but yes.11:24
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RemyLaptopeasy = click, click, installed11:24
RemyLaptop:-)11:24
turtlesoupintelikey: maybe it is looking in the wrong place?11:24
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intelikeyok turtlesoup look just above the E; and read what it sujests to fix it11:24
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turtlesoupintelikey: a great many lines beginning with depends:11:25
intelikeyturtlesoup use  shift  pageup uf you need to11:25
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intelikeyerr if11:26
turtlesoupintelikey: example . .     Depends:yelp but it is not going to be installed11:26
intelikeyyes not those it will sujest an action to try to fix the issue11:26
gnomefreakturtlesoup: what version of ff do you have?11:26
turtlesoupgnomefreak: what is FF?11:27
hatake_kakashiwhats a good download manager for http on Gnome. I'm looking for a GUI frontend rather than wget or KGet11:27
gnomefreakff= firefox11:27
hatake_kakashiturtlesoup: firefox11:27
intelikeygnomefreak did i mis read this.   i thought turtlesoup said clean install with no gui   or gui wont start11:27
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turtlesoup1.5.0.1    , on a windows desktop11:28
gnomefreakhatake_kakashi: there is a gnome front-end for wget i just cant remember name of it :(11:28
turtlesoupintelikey: that is correct11:28
hatake_kakashignomefreak: thanks for the heads up, going to look into it :)11:28
gnomefreakintelikey: he ran server install?11:28
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Ngthere's gwget, or you could go for something more complex like d4x11:28
Madpilotgnomefreak & hatake_kakashi: gwget11:28
Unicorn_Giggleshatake_kakashi, there is Downloader for X I use it, and it's pretty nice11:28
gnomefreakhatake_kakashi: i want to say its something like gwget11:28
hatake_kakashignomefreak: yeah I found it, thanks :)11:29
RemyLaptopok, noobie question11:29
gnomefreakyw11:29
hatake_kakashiUnicorn_Giggles: which program?11:29
hatake_kakashiRemyLaptop: ask11:29
turtlesoupi ran instlux on top of windows, i chose network install11:29
RemyLaptopi'm supposed to change the repository so it points  to the breezy area11:29
RemyLaptophow do I do that?11:29
Unicorn_GigglesDownloader for X or d4x, its in the repositories11:29
RemyLaptopI try to add the new one, but it only has details for hoary11:29
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RemyLaptopnot for breezy11:29
weareallonehola, i am a second day user, my mind rotted by windows... how do i become the owner of the other partition of my harddrive?11:29
hatake_kakashiRemyLaptop: change all instances of whatever you are on, assuming you are on hoary, you change all the instances of 'hoary' to 'breezy' without quotes of course11:30
gnomefreakRemyLaptop: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   change the word hoary to breezy than click save close sudo apt-get update11:30
intelikeygnomefreak it really doesn't matter if it's a server install or no,  apt cant install the ubuntu-desktop   and there is the issue at hand.   whether a partial install or server install it is still hung at that point.11:30
hatake_kakashiUnicorn_Giggles: thanks, will look into it11:30
Unicorn_Gigglesnp11:30
MadpilotRemyLaptop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:30
gnomefreakintelikey: i didnt know we were still stuck on installer11:30
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RemyLaptopMadpilot, that's what I'm looking at :-P11:31
MadpilotUnicorn_Giggles: got a screenshot of this unicorn-festooned desktop of yours?11:31
turtlesoupi am stumped11:31
RemyLaptopgnomefreak, thanks11:31
DigitalLFhello im trying to make a dualboot and the question is should the linux partition have "bootable flag"?11:31
DigitalLFim using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo11:31
turtlesoupit says i have alot of unmet dependencies11:31
Unicorn_Gigglesno unicorns on mine (yet), just a leaf, but I'll make one, gimme 2 secs11:31
RemyLaptopthat's why I love this channel :)11:31
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Madpilotweareallone: if you mean the /root (filesystem) side, then you don't own it, the system does11:32
wearealloneow do i access files from it?11:33
weareallone*how11:33
intelikeyturtlesoup cant find the sujestion in the dpkg output ?      run it again (up arrow to recall the command)  but add   | less       that is the pipe sign11:33
bimberiDigitalLF: Nope.  Neither of the 2 linux partitions that i boot from are flagged bootable :)11:33
Madpilotweareallone: you can browse anytime (read-only) but to do more requires using sudo11:33
DigitalLFbimberi anything else i should think of? (n00b when it comes to my laptop inspiron 9400)11:34
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wearealloneMadpilot: terminal?11:34
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turtlesoupintelikey: i dont understand11:34
Madpilotweareallone: as a general rule, you don't usually need to do anything on that side, just let the system take care of it.11:34
RemyLaptopupgrade in progress.11:34
RemyLaptoplater all!11:34
weareallonei can't even browse it11:34
DigitalLFbimberi i hade to use vga=771 when i booted thats all i think so far.. :P11:34
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intelikeyturtlesoup piping the output through less will let you scroll it at you pace.  and even back up or use   /  and search for thengs11:34
turtlesoupintelikey: i see11:35
weareallonechanged accessibilty and directory in disks11:35
bimberiDigitalLF: not that i can think of11:35
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DigitalLFbimberi thank you very much11:35
DigitalLFbbl11:35
RemyLaptopbefore I go11:35
Madpilotweareallone: have you read the RootSudo wiki page?11:35
wearealloneMadpilot: do i neet to set dir to root?11:35
bimberiDigitalLF: yw :)11:35
RemyLaptopjust thought I should let you know that I'm downloading at 6mbps!11:35
RemyLaptop:-)11:35
RemyLaptopwohoo !11:35
weareallonei guess i should do that eh?11:35
DreamstarHi everybody. Can anyone help me configuring NTP so that on boot the clock will be automatically updated? on breezy it worked with no prob, here on dapper it looks it doesn't update automatically. Thx!11:35
turtlesoupintelikey: how do i type the pipe sign?11:35
RemyLaptopis dapper a new release ?11:36
RemyLaptopor a development release?11:36
DigitalLFbimberi hehe one more thing.... primary or logical for the swap partition?11:36
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gnomefreakRemyLaptop: not yet11:36
Madpilotweareallone: I'm not sure what you mean11:36
intelikeyshift  \11:36
Dreamstardapper is developement release11:36
RemyLaptopk11:36
RemyLaptopI'll stick to breezy then11:36
gnomefreakits devel11:36
MadpilotRemyLaptop: Dapper will have it's final release in mid-April11:36
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bimberiDigitalLF: doesn't matter (but mine is logical)11:36
RemyLaptopk11:36
Dreamstargnomefreak: can u help me with ntp?11:36
DigitalLFbimberi okey thank you again11:37
Dreamstari think i should modify the boot services11:37
RemyLaptopoh sweet sweet 6mbps :)11:37
weareallonei haven't read that page yet, so i will now, thx11:37
RemyLaptophow I love you so11:37
Madpilot!tell weareallone about sudo11:37
DreamstarRemyLaptop: i am on a 10 mbps :P11:37
RemyLaptopnice11:37
gnomefreakDreamstar: is it set to ntp in the clock settings?11:37
RemyLaptopmy connection is 21mbps, but it's only d/l at 6 ;-)11:37
makahi11:37
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turtlesoupintelikey: i have a ton of lines that are like this:  Depends: bluez-pin but it is not going to be installed        what does all this mean?11:38
Dreamstargnomefreak: yep and i also selected to update automatically but as far as i see in the boot processes there is no NTP update11:38
DigitalLFwhen im already here... how big should a swap partition be if i got 1024mb ddr2 53311:38
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RemyLaptop:D11:38
RemyLaptopI only got it last week..11:38
MadpilotDreamstar: you might have to adjust the servers that the ntp process is looking for11:38
gnomefreakDreamstar: ok i havent looked at that that close but maybe they pulled it out for now to fix something else11:38
wearealloneis that thing automated?11:39
DreamstarMadpilot: already done and it works when manually updated11:39
Madpilotweareallone: the bot? sort of11:39
weareallonethe tell function?11:39
weareallonenice11:39
Madpilotubotu tell weareallone about yourself11:39
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Unicorn_GigglesMadpilot, http://localghost.wiredguides.com/210206.png <-- there it is, its its simplistic glory lol11:39
makais it possible to go online while trying to Live CD11:39
Dreamstarbut as i said the prob is that the update doesn't load on start up, i think11:39
gnomefreakDreamstar: if that is the only issue you face in dapper be happy :(11:39
DigitalLFanyone? swap how big when 1024mb ddr211:39
Dreamstargnomefreak: lol yep it's the only prob i have ^^11:39
bimberiDigitalLF: I reckon 1GB - rule of thumb is 2xRAM up to a maximum of 1GB11:40
MadpilotDigitalLF: I've got 1024 ddr, didn't bother with swap11:40
weareallonecool beans, thx for ure help11:40
Dreamstargnomefreak: u think it's possible i add it to the boot processes? is so, how can i do so?11:40
DigitalLFwill the swap make a big difference?11:40
bimberiDigitalLF:  some even say max out at 512MB11:40
gnomefreakDreamstar: i would check for bugs on it or wait it out maybe it will get fixed (if someone has said something)11:40
RemyLaptophey folks, quick question: what's NFS, and how do I use it ?11:40
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MadpilotDigitalLF: with 1Gb, I rarely max out my RAM, even with caching11:41
mans123Can someone tell me how i can disable initrd when compiling a custon kernel11:41
Dreamstargnomefreak: ok...where should i look for the processes loaded at boot?11:41
bimberiDigitalLF: btw it's not a 'final' decision - you can create a file on the filesystem to use as swap anyway11:41
mans123i have removed the ramdisk option in menuconfig11:41
mans123but still it uses initrd11:42
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intelikeyturtlesoup i'm probably going to have to 'dump you in someone elses lap'  but for future referance  you have a "package dependancy problem"  with ubuntu-desktop    it means your install is borked.        sorry  i busy right now...11:42
Dreamstargnomefreak: lol :)11:42
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gnomefreakDreamstar: i would just type in ntp in launchpad see what comes up11:42
RemyLaptop!nfs11:42
ubotumethinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.11:42
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turtlesoupintelikey: thanks for the help !11:43
MadpilotDreamstar: in Gnome, rightclick on the clock, pick Adjust Date & Time11:43
Dreamstarok gnomefreak i'll try it so11:43
gnomefreakMadpilot: dream stated they already changed it11:43
Dreamstarthat's nice! it says "command not found" but i have ntp installed! :D11:43
Madpilotgnomefreak: k11:43
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gnomefreakDreamstar: ntp is not a command11:44
RemyLaptopanyone know an easy way to copy files between my ubuntu and my windows machine over the network ?11:44
DreamstarMadpilot: yep it worked manually, the prob is that i want it to work automatically on startup ^^11:44
RemyLaptopI've had to upload them to a web ftp server, then download in the past...11:44
RemyLaptop:-P11:44
gnomefreakDreamstar: you need to go to the launchpad website and search there11:44
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Dreamstargnomefreak: i see ^^11:44
Dreamstargnomefreak: launchpad website?!?11:44
MadpilotDreamstar: in gnome you can fix the ntp server lookups so it works automatically - use pool.ntp.org as your lookup11:44
gnomefreak!launchpad11:45
ubotugnomefreak: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:45
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AntMazAnyone know of a divx codec playewr that plays well , vlc doesnt play divx codec files well at all11:45
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Dreamstar!launchpad11:45
ubotuDreamstar: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:45
bimberigee you'd think there'd be a factoid for launchpad11:45
gnomefreakubotu tell AntMaz about restricted11:45
Madpilotgnomefreak: launchpad.net is messed up right now anyway, it looks like11:46
RemyLaptopI've had to upload them to a web ftp server, then download in the past...11:46
RemyLaptopanyone know an easy way to copy files between my ubuntu and my windows machine over the network ?11:46
gnomefreakahhhhhhh11:46
Madpilot!tell RemyLaptop about samba11:46
RemyLaptop!samba11:46
ubotusamba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently11:46
Dreamstar!ntp11:46
uboturumour has it, ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.11:46
odatanyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV1811:47
MadpilotRemyLaptop: when people do the !tell thing to you, the bot should message you...11:47
RemyLaptopit did too :)11:47
AntMazAnyone know of a divx codec playewr that plays well , vlc doesnt play divx codec files well at all11:47
RemyLaptopwill you look at that!11:47
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bimberi!launchpad is a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/11:47
ubotubimberi: okay11:47
Dreamstarmmmm i'm trying to understand how to add process on startup....11:47
AntMazi can play divx formats on vlc but the get like 3 frames a minuete11:47
gnomefreakAntMaz: read your pm11:47
AntMazi did ive done all that11:48
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AntMazi can play divx formats in vlc but it get like 3 frames every 30sec to amin11:48
RemyLaptop!sodu11:48
ubotuRemyLaptop: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:48
MadpilotAntMaz: try totem11:48
RemyLaptop!sudo11:48
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:48
AntMaztotem doesnt support divx formats11:49
MadpilotRemyLaptop: you can always /msg the bot11:49
Madpilot!msg the bot11:49
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:49
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AntMazso anyone know of a good divx player11:50
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kemikAntMaz: vlc or mplayer11:50
AntMazthey suck11:50
MadpilotAntMaz: write your own :P11:51
kemik"[11:48:35]  <AntMaz> i can play divx formats in vlc but it get like 3 frames every 30sec to amin"11:51
kemikprobably somethings not configured correctly11:51
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kemikvlc is pretty darned good actually11:51
taniaHI all11:51
AntMazoh is it11:52
kemikonly has issues w/ a few .wmv's.. and those mplayer can play ... :)11:52
raghui want to install very light desktop manager which one to go with?11:52
taniais there a possibility to find a 2.6.15 kernel package for ubuntu ?11:52
odatanyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV1811:52
kemikraghu: icewm or xfce11:52
MadpilotTotem-xine has played everything I've ever thrown at it...11:52
raghukemik, thx11:52
taniaare the Debian kernel packages ok for ubuntu ?11:52
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AntMazwhen i installed 2000 on a 450 with 380 ram it would play divx file formats fine in divx11:53
bintutanybody can help me here? i tried to build the kernel source from ubuntu dev linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-15.21.tar.gz and i got an error ==> http://pastebin.com/56479411:53
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intelikeyturtlesoup i really hate to leave a gut with a broke system.11:53
kemikMadpilot: you cnat have thrown alot then ;)11:53
kemikMadpilot: but i do have high expectations on gstreamer1011:54
Madpilotkemik: guess not, but it does seem to work better than many people give it credit for :P11:54
Toma-tania, not really...11:54
intelikeyturtlesoup i'm going to pm you a command string that "should"  fix the thing so you can install the ubuntu-desktop and anything else you want     k ?11:54
turtlesoupintelikey: LOL , i am still trying to reconfigure xserver11:54
turtlesoupintelikey: OK11:54
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jimcooncatIs there a text-based gconf editor?11:55
intelikeyturtlesoup sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)11:55
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AntMazwith ubuntu when playing a video does it write it to the memory of the video card to playback11:55
taniaand where to find a 2.6.15 kernel for ubuntu ?11:55
turtlesoupintelikey: thanks11:55
gnomefreaktania: dapper but its not stable yet11:56
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AntMazwith ubuntu when playing a video does it write it to the memory of the video card to playback ,anyone know11:57
AntMazcause thats what windows does11:57
ogacould somebody please help me print pdf's 4 / 6 per page as opposed to 1 per page (using lpr driver, cups wrapper, brother hl-2040, fairly new to linux)11:57
AntMazand if so can i change it to write to the motherboard memory11:58
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morethi all!11:58
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moretPlease, I need a repo with codecs, mplayer...11:58
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gnomefreak!mplayer11:59
ubotumethinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106111:59
taniaand how do I get a dapper kernel with breezy badger ?11:59
gnomefreaktania: you dont11:59
taniacool11:59
liquidindianIf I'm using the terminal, how can I stop the results of ls scrolling off the screen?11:59
Seveastania, that is a very bad idea11:59
moretubotu, so, is mplayer in multiverse?11:59
ubotumoret: okay11:59
odatanyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV1811:59
shinuwhat does an exclamation mark mean in the shell?11:59
moretand codecs?11:59
Seveasnewer kernel needs newer udev etx...11:59
gnomefreak2.6.15 would be dapper not breezy no matter how you go tit11:59
Seveasmoret, ubotu is a bot....11:59
Seveas!forget so,11:59
ubotui forgot so,, Seveas11:59
gnomefreakmoret: yes11:59
morethaha12:00
moretoks12:00
AntMazme thinks ubuntu writes to mem of vdeo card , cause i have an onboard video card and it sucks12:00
moretand codecs?12:00
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Seveas!forget start a desktop war12:00
ubotui forgot start a desktop war, Seveas12:00
Seveas!forget start a wm war12:00
ubotui forgot start a wm war, Seveas12:00
Madpilot!w32codecs12:00
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:00
Seveas!forget start an editor war12:00
ubotuSeveas: i forgot start an editor war12:00
gnomefreakshinu: in a script or just in a shell?12:00
Seveas!forget its insane how much faster linux12:00
ubotui forgot its insane how much faster linux, Seveas12:00
Madpilot!tell Seveas about msg the bot12:00
gnomefreaklol12:00
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Madpilot:P12:00
Seveas!lart Madpilot12:01
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MadpilotSeveas: that only works in -offtopic12:01
SeveasMadpilot, too bad you can't come to the meeting12:01
MadpilotSeveas: got my email, then?12:01
Ngooh yeah there's a meeting today, I keep meaning to go to one ;)12:01
SeveasMadpilot, of course12:01
liquidindian!bash12:02
ubotuFor a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands12:02
MadpilotSeveas: cool, was just about to sign off, it's late here - hope the meeting goes well12:02
AntMazlove how xmms is just like winamp12:02
turtlesoupi tried this:   sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)          and the error is "lc_messages" is not installed and no info is available.  anyone know what this means?12:02
SeveasMadpilot, bonne nuit12:03
taniawhat are the deb packages in "http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/" ???12:03
gnomefreakturtlesoup: try sudo apt-get install lc_messages? never seen it so it s a guess12:03
AntMazso anyone know about the video playback memory chaching12:03
gnomefreaktania: synaptic12:03
turtlesoupgnomefreak: ok, thanks12:03
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Seveastania, kernels for dapper...12:04
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bintutany comments?  ==>  http://pastebin.com/56479412:04
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turtlesoupgnomefreak: couldnt find package lc_messages     ...  how can i make sure that my setup is looking to get stuff from a server?12:04
Ngturtlesoup: what on earth were you trying to do?!12:05
Ngthat command looks pretty wrong12:05
gnomefreakturtlesoup: run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:05
odatanyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV1812:05
nathanjanyone know how to setup a samba share with out a login?12:05
turtlesoupNg: just trying to get my desktop working :012:05
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gnomefreakNg: intelikey gave him that for some reason (doesnt remember why)12:05
Ngturtlesoup: ...12:05
turtlesoupi am a newbie, and VERY lost at this point12:05
turtlesoupLOL12:06
Nggnomefreak: well it looks like nonsense to me12:06
redbladeHow do I cut an image in gimp?12:06
gnomefreakSeveas: is there a date set to get  xubuntu-desktop back yet?12:06
redbladei want to cut it away drom the background.12:06
turtlesoupall poor turtlesoup is trying to do is get his GUI desktop :(12:07
gnomefreakturtlesoup: let me know if sudo apt-get -f install wants to install anything12:08
liquidindianAh, pipe is the word I'm looking for.  How do I 'pipe' the output of ls so it gives me a page at a time?12:08
turtlesoupgnomefreak: ok12:08
gnomefreakliquidindian: |less12:08
liquidindiangnomefreak, cheers.12:08
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turtlesoupgnomefreak: i typed   " sudo apt-get -f install "   and it says 0 for everything12:09
gnomefreakofcourse it does :(12:09
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turtlesoupgnomefreak: did i do it wrong?12:09
gnomefreakno12:09
gnomefreakturtlesoup: this was during install this happened right?12:10
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turtlesoupgnomefreak: yea, i was installing from instlux on top of windows and when it restarted setup started, all seemed well, but i cant get to desktop12:11
Ngwhat does it say if you ask it to install ubuntu-desktop?12:11
videoapelsin!sfv12:11
ubotuvideoapelsin: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:11
gnomefreakNg: depends on a bunch of crap12:11
turtlesoupNg: i tried that earlier, no luck12:11
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Ngwell you need that package to be installable, so I'm tempted to suggest a -f install ubuntu-desktop12:12
Ngcan you run a normal install? ;)12:12
GameCatcan anyone tell me how to get X set up after changing monitors?12:12
Ngwhatever instlux is is probably to blame12:12
turtlesoupNg: this is a tablet pc that cannot boot from USB cd rom, so i was really limited as to installing to it12:12
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Ngugh12:13
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gnomefreakanything with the abrevation of instant cant be good :(12:13
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turtlesoupNg, my only boot options are floppy,HDD, PXE12:13
gnomefreakturtlesoup: did intelikey know this?12:13
turtlesoupgnomefreak: yes12:13
NemoI have a slave drive installed on my system but I can't seem to access it, why is that?12:13
gnomefreakoh nice of him to relay :(12:13
ogacould somebody please help me print pdf's 4 / 6 per page as opposed to 1 per page (using lpr driver, cups wrapper, brother hl-2040, fairly new to linux)... can anyboyd point me towards some good existing documentation12:14
oga?12:14
gnomefreakok time for shower so i can get to class :( later all12:14
GameCatcan anyone tell me how to get X set up after changing monitors on an existing install??12:14
GameCatplease? :)12:14
turtlesoupgnomefreak: i am way out of my realm trying to get this installed12:14
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liquidindianIs there anyway to "unpack" a .exe installation file on ubuntu?  (odd question, I know)12:15
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turtlesoupgnomefreak: i dont know what is going on, the computer starts up and i see the ubuntu splash screen, then it just drops me to command line12:15
e-foohow can i compile a module in the kernel in ubuntu (hpt374.ko)?12:15
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NgGameCat: you can reconfigure x with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:16
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NemoI have a sound card that shows up on my device manager but i'm not getting any sound, Help please12:16
shinuhow do i put an exclamation mark in the shell without using '\' ?12:17
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GameCatng: thanks12:17
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Ngshinu: depends, what are you trying to do?12:17
jason__hey what plugins can i use with linux? like flash?12:17
sirgrimmorning12:17
Ngjason__: flash, real, java, and you can persuade other things to work too sometimes12:18
shinuNg: trying to use wget to download a file thats got a ! in its name, and it keeps interpreting it weirdly12:18
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rinkeJeson Yes,their is a Flashplayer for Linux12:18
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videoapelsin!dvd12:18
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)12:18
jason__Ng, whats the name of the Flashplayer for Linux?12:18
Ngshinu: you could try encasing the URL in single quotes (') that should stop the shell from touching them12:18
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sirgrimlooking for advice on changing the kernel boot splash12:19
Ngjason__: if you browse to a page with flash in it, firefox should offer to install it, or there's a nonfree flash installer package in synaptic12:19
shinuNg: oh right, i tried with " but it didnt work12:19
Ngshinu: double quotes still allow for shell expansion :)12:19
jason__Ng, whats the name of the flash in synaptic???12:19
odatanyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV1812:19
turtlesoupif i type    startx     from command line, that should start the gui right?12:20
rinkeJanson: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html12:20
Ngjason__: I think it's flashplayer-nonfree, but search for flash and see what options there are to be sure :)12:20
Ngjason__: also you might want to look at the RestrictedFormats wiki page, it covers installing thigns like java12:20
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Luka666ellow12:20
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rinkeJason: Flasplayer is free to use;)12:20
Luka666is it normal to have /dev/.static and /dev/.udevdb folders in ubuntu?12:21
sirgrimanyway to redo the kernel splash without recompiling?12:21
Luka666rkhunter reported that they are hidden files and that i should look into it12:21
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shinuNg: okey thanks. there is still some weird problem but nvm :P12:21
ndlovuI deleted mysql's data directory (/var/lib/mysql), and now I'm trying to get mysql working again. Is it easiest just to reinstall mysql? is there a better way to recreate the databases?12:21
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NameeaterLuka666: I have them12:23
ardinary:o12:23
turtlesouphow do i start X from command line?12:23
Luka666Nameeater thx12:23
Luka666can anyone else check :>12:23
ardinaryLuka666, what a weird name :P12:24
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Luka666ardinary?12:24
turtlesoupLOL12:24
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e-footurtlesoup: startx12:25
lukagonthis was the first nick i ever used12:25
lukagonyou look so similar12:25
turtlesoupe-foo: it says command not found  any ideas?12:25
Luka666my name is luka12:25
lukagonyou must be my evil twin.  got a goatee doncha?12:25
Luka666so...12:25
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e-fooapt-get install xorg-x1112:25
Luka666i dont have a goatee12:25
ZetardHello12:26
turtlesoupe-foo: i will try thankx12:26
videoapelsin"deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas extras12:26
videoapelsinbash: deb: command not found" what i'm missing here?12:26
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ZetardI have a problem, its not exactly ubuntu's fault, rather windows, but i think you may be able to help me anyways.12:26
gmaterahallo12:26
lukagonget one and we can take pictures of ourselves together! it'll be fun :p12:26
ompaulfolks if your here for chatting please do so in  #ubuntu-offtopic this is supposed to be a help channel12:27
turtlesoupe-foo: couldnt find package xorg-x1112:27
Luka666lukagon a goatee takes too much effort and im to lazy to shave :>12:27
Luka666ompaul sorry. ill stop12:27
lukagonah.  my names luke but i thought that luka was a girls name because everyone told me so12:28
ZetardI tried to install ubuntu yesterday, but my disk was broken, and now everytime i start, instead of Grub i get the windowsinstallation-hoolabalooa :P looks like it was a broken istallation, im on a live DVD now, any ideas?12:28
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Aragorn_Guardiani need help with hotplug , usb to be more exact12:29
nathanjanyone know how to share a drive via samba publically12:29
Zetardi have succesfully installed ubunto, but i dont get grub, it says, starting c:\windows instead.12:29
Zetardand then the windows installation starts.12:29
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turtlesoupheres what i want to do:   sudo apt-get install xorg-x11    , how do i make the computer get it from the internet?12:29
e-footurtlesoup: try xorg-common12:29
liquidindianzetard, I was able to install Grub from the live CD, there's info in the wiki.  Hold on a sec...12:30
DigitalLFinstall complete.. how do i "su -"12:30
bimberiDigitalLF: sudo -i12:30
turtlesoupe-foo: i think my computer isnt looking on the net for it12:30
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weareallone#ubotu12:30
DigitalLF:P12:30
weareallone... :|12:30
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Zetardliquidindian, i have installed ubunto, im certain its on the hdd, but i get some "windows missing, starting c:\windows" instead error12:31
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AMDXPanyone using 64 bit version12:31
turtlesoupe-foo: it says xorg-common is already the newest version12:31
liquidindianZetard, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub12:31
liquidindianThat helped me.  I'm no expert, though.12:32
redbladeHey, I was here earlier looking for the answer to a problem.12:32
Zetardill try that liquidindian , thnx12:32
liquidindianFar, far from it.  I used "Using the LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"12:33
liquidindianSpeak to an expert first, though.12:33
redbladeI was wondering why apache 2.2 needs to be started manually every time I start Linux(breezy)12:33
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videoapelsin!mp312:33
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:33
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mohasrhi all12:34
Luka666bye12:34
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redbladeI was wondering why apache 2.2 needs to be started manually every time I start Linux(breezy)12:35
redbladeor rather how to keep it on permanently.12:36
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wearealloneso... i cannot access files on the other part of my drive. went thru rootsudo wiki and i changed root profile to be able to execute administrative operations and aigned on as root... if that's what i wa supposed to do, it didn't work...12:37
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Exxperthey guys,, do ya have a sec to help a poor bastard?12:38
redbladelol12:39
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Kouwedoes someone has ninan running on ubuntu succesfully?12:39
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Kouwewhere does ubuntu stores JAVA at install automatically?12:42
Zetardliquidindian, i typ grub, then "root (0,0)" to "root (4,4) every possible combination gives me error 21 disk does not exist :X12:42
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wearealloneany1 got the patience for a novice?12:42
redbladeExxpert, what's wrong?12:42
Exxperthave a amd x64 and planning on installing ubuntu, but need to buy a nvidia graphicsadapter. went down to the local store and they had two cheap options, 1: geforce 6200 with 256mb. and a geforce 6600 with 512mb. it is quite a bit between them in price.. what to pick? damn options in life..:-D12:42
Exxpertplanning on xgl;-)12:42
redbladeNo idea sorry12:42
Exxpertoh crap..12:43
Exxpert:D12:43
Kouwein wich directory is java installed?12:43
ectospasmExxpert:  that depends, what's your budget like?  The older card will cost less now, but you'll have to upgrade sooner...12:43
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redblade"usr/bin/javawazhere/12:43
DigitalLFi cant get xorg up and running something about "I810: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found"12:43
DigitalLFgfx is Intel Media Accelerator 95012:44
Exxperti dont play any games, just writing and stuff,, want xgl and compiz to run smooooooth:D12:44
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ectospasmI'd go with the cheaper card, unless there's only like ~$50 difference...12:44
mohasri use xgl/compiz on gforce 4 go (64mb) very well12:44
Exxpert:O12:45
redbladeweareallone?12:45
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mahanguapt-get update fails for me12:46
mahangudies12:46
mahanguis there a way to force it12:46
CanYouHelpMePlzi'm in love with a stripper12:46
Exxpert112$ difference!12:46
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weareallonei have ubuntu 5.1 and i am trying to access the files on the other side of my harddrive... tried rootsudo and no luck on my part, but i'm probably doin it wrong12:47
redbladeCanYouHelpMePlz, And... ?12:47
weareallonethx 4 ure time12:47
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Exxpertmohasr: are you satisfied with the system?12:47
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mohasryea , very12:47
janolihi!!12:47
janoliany chance to connect a sony eric z500 with my ubuntu ?!12:47
mohasri use dapper f4 and this is my first ubuntu12:47
janoli-my-12:48
turtlesoupCanYouHelpMePlz: does she love you back? LOL12:48
mohasrhonstly , i _love_ it12:48
CanYouHelpMePlzturtlesoup: probably not, since it's a song :-P12:48
turtlesoupAAhhh12:48
Exxpertmohasr: Im downloading dapper f4 right now..12:48
Exxperthope i get it to work..:D12:48
wearealloneredblade: did u catch that?12:48
redbladewhat?12:49
ompaulExxpert, it may work, but then in two days it may not that is the joy of devel12:49
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ExxpertLOL12:49
turtlesoupis there a way i can launch network setup from a floppy disk? i am about to give up and start over12:49
mohasrExxpert: i use it on compaq laptop , and it detected every thing , even the soft volume control buttons that I couldn't make them work in fedora 4 !!12:49
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weareallonei'm trying to acces the other part of my harddrive (files) and i tried root sudo, but may have got it all wrong12:49
redbladeweareallone, what?12:50
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bintutanyone here uses dapper already?  i'm currently using breezy on amd64 laptop. is it safe to dist-upgrade?  please advice :)12:50
Exxpertno idea om using breezy then?12:50
mohasrbintut: i use dapper12:50
CanYouHelpMePlzit's best to stick with breezy until dapper is released officially12:50
mohasrf412:50
weareallonei partitioned my hardrive and i want to access the files on the other 'part'12:50
mohasri couldn't help not trying xgl :D12:51
Exxpertdoes xgl runs the same way on both dapper and breezy?12:51
bunyipbintut - you should only use dapper on a test machine.  It is constantly changing and not suitable for production.12:51
mohasrwow the cube totating is addictive12:51
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bintutmohasr: is it safe to upgrade from breezy-amd64 to dapper-amd64?12:51
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Sp4rKyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=756636#post75663612:51
wearealloneredblade: keep forgetting to  put ture name first12:52
mohasrbintut: i don think so12:52
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bintutbunyip: my laptop. i still have a problem on acpi here.. :(12:52
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redbladeweareallone, I'm not sure what you mean.12:52
redbladeDual boot?12:52
ExxpertSp4rKy: ; shes cute:-)12:52
valdorAnyone know how to restore the default kde menu in Kubuntu. ( instead of the Debian submenu ) ?12:52
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Sp4rKyExxpert, yes, she's my little sister :)12:53
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^jude^when booting to recovery mode my machine asks for root password - what do I give it (my password doesn't work)12:53
Exxpertthen congratz then!12:53
WiFiAlreadyif i download new ati driver ubuntu show me a key error12:53
wearealloneredblade: i am trying to be able to access files on the other part of my partitioned hardrive12:53
mohasri've a problem with samba , i can see the shares on the other pcs in my lan but can't share :-(12:53
redbladeohh. Ummm. Not sure, weareallone12:53
Exxpertalright!,, *gets the ass from the chair and heads down to computerstore and buy a cheap 6600 256mb*12:54
weareallonethx anyways12:54
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elkbuntubwahahah irony with that baby pic..on the shirt... the 'linux inside' symbol is on the washing machine, but linux is on the outside of the machine, windows is inside it :D12:55
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mohasrany one knows how to configure smb proberly to share files with windows pcs in the same lan ?12:55
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AnisotropoHi, can you tell me a good book to start with Linux?12:56
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PuMpErNiCkLe...book?12:56
Acidic32is it worth getting the 64bit edition?12:57
redbladeWhy do you need a book?12:57
ohgoodAnisotropo: i like the pocket reference from o'reily12:57
colm_asleepAnisotropo, linux in a nutshell is a good reader12:57
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redbladealthough most books should be able to help you with the basics12:57
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bushito!mp312:57
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:57
AnisotropoI like read good books and I want to start "playing" Linux.12:58
baboAnyone help me with a simple bash expression ... ?12:58
AnisotropoThanks, colm.12:58
Kouwe!java12:58
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:58
redblademohasr, www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection12:58
redbladebye then12:58
ohgoodAnisotropo: with a small $30 or so investment, you can get a couple of nice books, and a linux magazine, with a full dvd install of one or two distros. might but just what you want. :)12:58
ectospasmbabo:  what bash expression?12:58
Acidic32is it worth getting the 64bit edition?12:59
ohgoodAcidic32: sorry, no way to know for your situation.12:59
ectospasmAcidic32:  only if you have a 64bit processor (-;12:59
mohasri see little performance advantegs with x64 distros12:59
Acidic32i have a 64biot processesor12:59
AnisotropoThanks, ohgood.12:59
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janoliany chance connecting a z500 mobile with ubuntu ?12:59
ohgoodAnisotropo: (:12:59
Acidic32mm so ill stick to my standard x86 package12:59
Acidic32not the 64 bit one?01:00
turtlesoupis there a way i can launch ubuntu setup from floppy disk?01:00
colmAnisotropo, note that books tend to get old fast in this world, so aim for something that will last01:00
ectospasmno, you get better memory utilization for 64bit...01:00
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baboectospasm: while read job_description ; do php -r 'echo (urlencode($job_description));' ; done > file         ... doesn't work01:00
Acidic32mmm01:00
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ectospasmAlthough performance wise there's not much difference01:00
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Acidic32but will things break in 64bit ?01:00
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mohasrbye all01:01
Anisotropocolm, yes, I thought it, but I don't want to learn from on-line manuals with typos and erratas.01:01
ohgoodAcidic32: things break in 16bit. of course they will break in 32/64/128 etc01:01
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ectospasmbabo:  where is job_description defined?01:01
babo64 bit isn't so bad, I'm running it at the moment... there are some good tutorials in the wiki now01:01
Acidic32no cuz i ran suse 64bit, and things didnt compile sometimes01:01
baboectospasm: in the same directory01:01
colmAnisotropo, know what you mean, but you'll find the typos and erratas in books too!  every book nowadays has a typos and erratas web page01:01
elkbuntuohgood, on that note, some things havent been ported for 64bit yet01:01
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bimberiturtlesoup: there is a netboot install - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot01:02
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ectospasmbabo:  I don't have my bash book here, so I can't go to that reference.  I'm not familiar with the read command (I think I've used it maybe once or twice)...01:02
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turtlesoupbimberi: thank you01:03
matyas_zahi guys01:03
baboectopasm: cool01:03
matyas_zaI would like to install krb5-user, but apt-get doesnt seem to have it in the database01:03
bimberiturtlesoup: good luck (i've seen your tribulations) :)01:03
matyas_zais there another source i can look ?01:03
Anisotropocolm, OK, but you can correct them looking at that web. (Sorry if I delay in my answers: I'm not a native English speaker [I'm spanish] .)01:04
turtlesoupbimberi: yes, i am experiencing some trials with this :)01:04
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colmAnisotropo, I believe there is also a spanish support group...   anyone?01:04
turtlesoupbimberi: on that wiki, what is Roo?01:04
ectospasmbabo:  while read reads std input into job_description right?  You're probably gonna need to do something else...01:04
colm!es01:04
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:04
bimberimatyas_za: it's in the universe repository ...01:04
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bimberiubotu tell matyas_za about universe01:05
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matyas_zathank you bimberi01:05
AnisotropoHehe, colm, thanks, very much.01:05
turtlesoupbimberi: does that wiki assume i am already running linux somewhere?01:05
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bimberiturtlesoup: yes, you'll need a second computer to netboot from01:05
turtlesoupbimberi: Ungghhh, my desktop is windows, and has work stuff and no free hard drives available, any ideas?01:06
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AnisotropoAnyway, I came to improve my English.01:06
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bimberiturtlesoup: "Roo" is that guy's own server01:06
valdorHow can u restore the default kde menu in kubuntu ( Deleted the debian menu by accident )??01:06
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ectospasmbabo:  man read, that might help some...01:06
bimberiturtlesoup: the third paragraph?01:06
janoliany chance connecting a z500 mobile with ubuntu ?01:07
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turtlesoupbimberi: i see, sorry01:07
OmegaAlphaAnyone know where the mozilla layout libraries are located?01:07
bimberiturtlesoup: np :)01:07
turtlesoupbimberi: i am just deluged with information01:07
bimberiturtlesoup: yes indeed01:07
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baboectospasm: there is no man read01:08
OmegaAlphaim trying to install the activex control01:08
ohgoodturtlesoup: so shrink the partition ?01:08
ectospasmhrmm... I'm not on my Ubuntu system, so I don't know...01:08
ectospasmOmegaAlpha:  will that even work in Linux?01:08
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OmegaAlphaectospasm, dont know.. gonna try..01:08
turtlesoupohgood: i would, but things with work are too hectic right now, and i cannot afford any windows box downtime.01:09
ectospasmOmegaAlpha:  my bet would be no01:09
OmegaAlphai need active x to install this windows video driver01:09
ohgoodturtlesoup: but     you're       here :|01:09
turtlesoupohgood:.....yes01:09
turtlesoupohgood: what is your point :)01:09
OmegaAlphacrap.. guess im gonna have to get a hold of theguythat made this driver and see if i can get the source then01:10
ohgoodturtlesoup: <shrug> ok, whatever, besides the hours upon hours waiting for windows to defrag itself, the actual 'downtime' for instaling a linux would be maybe 2 hours tops. <shrug again>01:10
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ohgoodturtlesoup: i've just noticed folks that claim to have no free time for xyx spend a good deal of time chasing virii, trojans, worms, whatever. :)01:11
turtlesoupohgood: i understand your position and agree with it, but there are things on this windows box that are , at this point, non-replaceable. E.G...i donewannatakeanychances01:11
ohgoodturtlesoup:  you don't have backups ?01:11
turtlesoupohgood: i have NO problems with malware01:11
turtlesoupohgood: yes i have a ton of backups01:12
turtlesoupohgood: since i startde using FF a couple years ago, windows has been pretty good01:12
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GenneXhey people01:13
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GenneXanyone know a good site where I can learn more about shell scripting ?01:14
DigitalLFtheres something wrong when i try to start gdm its about the pcibus can any one help me?01:15
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DigitalLF"I810: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found"01:15
daodaowho can tell me how to install scim for ubuntu ?01:15
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GenneXdaodao: you can install scim vian Synaptic01:16
TomaszDhello!01:16
GenneX*via01:16
TomaszDany Ubuntu PPC users in here?01:16
ohgoodTomaszD: i'll bet there are some in #ubuntu-ppc or something01:18
TomaszDohgood, there are 3 people there and no-one is answering01:18
TomaszD:)01:18
ohgoodohhh, now you're just getting picky01:18
TomaszDyeah, right.01:18
muMatzGenneX: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/01:18
TomaszD:)01:18
muMatzshould be available in the repos too01:19
TomaszDI just need this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133702 done. But no-one seems to want to make the effort.01:19
GenneXmuMatz: thank you01:19
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theD3viLif i wanna have kde on ubuntu, can i boot up ubuntu as server installation and install only base, and then what i want? Like debian net install ?01:20
TomaszDtheD3viL, of course.01:20
ompaultheD3viL, yes, install "server" which is the base01:20
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TomaszDafter server install you can go with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:20
ompaultheD3viL, that will give you a nice narrow platform to do what TomaszD said01:21
theD3viLTomaszD: what about, when ill upgrading ... will i have to download ubuntu-desktop if i will have ubuntu? I must download kubuntu then?01:21
TomaszDtheD3viL, it doesn't matter if you get ubuntu or kubuntu if you make a server install.01:21
ompaultheD3viL, no you just upgrade the packages you have installed01:21
GenneXTomaszD: All you want is someone to create a .deb for you ?01:22
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tomaszhi - W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> - how to fix it ?01:22
TomaszDhaving kubuntu-desktop installed will insure proper dist-upgrade.01:22
theD3viLompaul, TomaszD: what is then different at kubuntu server install ?01:22
TomaszDGenneX, yes.01:22
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DigitalLFhm... help me out... in kB how much is 128mb?01:22
Aragorn_Guardiani neeeeeeed help with usb devices....01:22
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shikamaru85i tried to use ndiswrapper graphical installer and after i select the inf file and insert the usb wifi adapter...it still says no device found01:22
GenneXTomaszD: I am atm building a source code, once I am done I will have a look at it for you01:22
ompaultheD3viL, nothing, if you want kubuntu, if you want ubuntu that is the point where they cease having things in common01:22
shikamaru85do i have to do anything next?01:22
TomaszDGenneX, thanks!01:23
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Aragorn_Guardiankubuntu is more user friendly..:/01:23
ompaultheD3viL,  that is not exactly 100% accurate but from a gnome /kde perspective it holds true01:23
shikamaru85does the fact that i have eth0 have any influence? i'm getting kinda desperate...i've been trying everything and anything01:23
Aragorn_Guardiangnome is nice...but kde is easy01:23
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: yes, if you install all.01:23
TomaszDGenneX, I hope you did notice that I need a PowerPC package? :)01:23
shikamaru85and still nothing01:23
ompaulkde  is pure eye kandy01:23
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DigitalLF128mb in kB is?01:23
GenneXTomaszD: Nod01:24
theD3viLompaul: hm..so it is more recommended i install kubuntu ?01:24
Aragorn_Guardianthe both hasve too many goodies to hack... :)01:24
TomaszDDigitalLF, 131072KB01:24
shikamaru85DigitalLF, 131072 K01:24
TomaszD:)01:24
DigitalLFTomaszD shikamaru85 thx01:24
ompaultheD3viL, no there is no difference between server and kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu as an end product01:25
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shikamaru85DigitalLF no prob01:25
shikamaru85has anyone used ndiswrapper's graphical installer available in the repositories?01:25
theD3viLompaul: can be NTFS write enabled in ubuntu ? .. i have to copy some files now,...01:25
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GenneXTomaszD: Doing it on a remote server at work, so you will just have to test it ..01:26
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abeschenckhi, new to linux. convert from macos10.4, any suggestions for an itunes clone?01:26
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ompaultheD3viL, no, it is not supported, it may break your Ubuntu and or Windows, in Dapper which is still being developed it should be available - and no you should not run dapper if you need stability01:27
TomaszDGenneX, the point of the matter is that I won't be able to test it anywhere but thanks very much anyway. If you do everything by the book then it must work properly.01:27
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Aragorn_GuardiantheD3viL:  i use for this another distro, in live cd...is insert cd...01:27
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colmmy printer page is being cut off about 1cm short at the bottom.  The printer is a canon S520, the driver I'm using is S500.  The printer is capable of borderless printing, so this should not be a problem.  Can't find anywhere I can tweak the options  - any insights?01:27
theD3viLompaul: i wont upgrade to dapper, until 20april01:27
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GenneXTomaszD: nod, so you wont be able to test it until you install it on the computer then ??01:27
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: is it works?01:28
ompaultheD3viL, the day after wait for the torrents to be full :)01:28
asterisk99Anyone point me in right direction... I have a program I want to start automatically on ubuntu (hopefully with su priviledges)01:28
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TomaszDGenneX, hah you know, I only have i386 and AMD64 to play with. If I had ppc I wouldn't be asking for a favour.01:28
Aragorn_GuardiantheD3viL:  it make the job and has info in how is made...could make the same after in ubuntu...01:28
theD3viLompaul: ill dist-upgrade :)01:28
GenneXTomaszD: lol, ok01:28
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theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: cool :)01:28
abeschenckcan anyone suggest an itunes clone?01:29
odatanyone ever had trouble with the built in nvidia chip called nv18?01:29
theD3viLabeschenck: xmms, bmp01:29
TomaszDGenneX, yes I will be able to test the package but only to some extent, there is no "check if this package works properly for sure" command :)01:29
shikamaru85tried ndiswrapper graphical installer...went to System -> Admin -> Networking and my usb card still doesn't show01:29
shikamaru85any ideas?01:29
GenneXTomaszD: I will install it on the server and test it for you ...01:29
ompaulasterisk99, that sounds like you want to run a daemon what program is it?01:29
theD3viLompaul: you will clean install ubuntu after dapper will be stable?01:29
asterisk99ompaul: asterisk01:29
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TomaszDGenneX, thanks, If the program starts up without complaining about iconsets not being found then it works 100%.01:30
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ompaultheD3viL, your last comment is confusing, I will do an upgrade on 21april but I will have dapper on disk before hand01:30
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odatanyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 01:31
theD3viLompaul: you will upgrade, but why you will need cd then ?01:31
Aragorn_GuardiantheD3viL:  i need help with usb...:(01:31
Aragorn_Guardianmy external usb cd writer...dont works...:(01:31
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: what kind ?01:31
Aragorn_Guardianhp 820001:31
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Aragorn_Guardianpendrive worked in /dev/sda...but cd dont appear here01:32
theD3viLhm01:32
ompaulasterisk99, is should just start once installed  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportAsterisk /etc/init.d/asterisk start is one way01:32
ompaulasterisk99, I see no reason for it not to01:32
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: try to mount it with /dev/sda1,2,3..01:32
jacquesmerdeis the nvidia-glx package going to be fixed to work with dapper, or vice versa?01:33
Aragorn_GuardiantheD3viL:  /dev/sda is not here..:/ and i have rebooted with cd in box...but nothing...01:33
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: hm..try to remove all usb SPECIAL dev...mp3, usb-key....and then plugin01:34
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shikamaru85my usb card doesnt show up in lspci...is that important???01:35
Aragorn_Guardianhum...nice..gonna try...thanks01:35
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theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: k..i must boot in knoppix...to try if works writing into NTFS.01:35
theD3viLbrb01:35
GenneXTomaszD: Ok, started compiling, should only take a few mins01:36
TomaszDGenneX, got a quad g5 there? ;)01:36
Aragorn_Guardiannice...01:36
shikamaru85does anyone know y a usb wifi adapter shows up in lsusb but not in lspci???01:37
Aragorn_Guardianthe ntfs read write are just few options...01:37
shikamaru85uos01:37
asterisk99ompaul: I have that file in etc/init.d .... does that mean asterisk should have started during boot? if not, where do I look for error messages?01:37
shikamaru85ups...reading howtos and not even thinking01:37
GenneXTomaszD: rofl, didn't check the size of it to estimate compile time, so I presume it is quite large then01:37
TomaszDshikamaru85, because lspci shows PCI devices and lsusb USB devices.01:37
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TomaszDGenneX, no don't worry, shouldn't take more then a quarter...01:38
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TomaszD*longer01:38
TomaszDsorry English isn't my native language.01:38
Aragorn_Guardianand you copy some files from the self windows ...works fine... ;)01:38
shikamaru85TomaszD, exactly....reading a howto and it's not exactly fitted to my situation but i'm really desperate here01:38
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Aragorn_Guardianmaybe need work in kernel...maybe to ubuntu recognize...01:38
GenneXTomaszD: well I am not in a hurry, have all day ..01:39
TomaszDcool.01:39
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Aragorn_Guardiani have parport in modules...could conflit with usbcore????01:40
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bungle!repos01:41
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:41
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dentistI get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" when installing from the install cd.. any ideas?01:41
asterisk99ompaul: I have etc/init.d/asterisk already .... does that mean asterisk should have started during boot? if not, where do I look for error messages?01:42
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bunglehow can i fix my repos keep getting errors01:43
HClhow can i force the installing of an old version of a program?01:44
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iBalobungle: get a fresh sources.list from !easysource01:44
bungle!easysource01:45
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:45
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shikamaru85how do u rename a file in terminal?01:45
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GenneXTomaszD: where do I send the file to ?01:46
ompaulasterisk99, if it fails it means you have not got it installed and cofigured correctly - check with the following command "ps auwx | grep asterisk" and install something called Boot Up Manger for managing turning on and off services01:46
TomaszDGenneX, dominikowski<at>gmail<dot>com01:46
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ompaulasterisk99, sudo apt-get install bum01:46
GenneXTomaszD: send01:46
ana_rotariudsjgjd01:46
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muMatzshikamaru85: mv <oldname> <newname>01:46
GenneXTomaszD: might take a while to go through our server due to the size01:47
dentistmmm it failed a integrety check01:47
dentistis there a special way to burn the iso?01:47
TomaszDGenneX, ok, but it will eventually go through I hope? :)01:47
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bungleiBalo, i have generated the list now what do i do?01:48
ompauldentist, there is check the iso before hand emm hang on a sec til I get you some urls01:48
iBalobungle: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:48
dentistgreat.. thanks OmniColos01:48
dentistoops.. ompaul01:48
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bungleok01:48
GenneXTomaszD: nod, .deb files aren't blocked cause all our servers run on debian-based distros01:49
babohi guys, any bash scripters out there ??01:49
iBaloand then paste the list and overwrite the previous content01:49
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Kouwecan someone help me with installing "Ninan" ?01:49
TomaszDGenneX, ok.01:49
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ompauldentist, are you on Linux or Windows?01:50
baboecho `while read job_description ; do php -r 'echo (urlencode($job_description));' ; done ` > job_description    doesn't work for some reason01:50
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shikamaru85how do i now if echi is enabled??01:51
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shikamaru85sorry ehci01:51
woodyninan is a P2P?01:51
odatanyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 01:51
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dentistompaul - im on winbloze01:52
dentistatm anyways01:52
Kouwewoody, usenet binary downloader*01:52
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shikamaru85how do i disable ehci driver??01:53
woodyhummm01:53
ompauldentist, http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm that will sort out that problem for you, you can't burn using Windows Media player .. and it is "burn image" not file01:53
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abeschenckso I am trying to install this xmms and it says I dont have glib, so I tried to insallt glib and it still says that I dont have glib01:53
woodyi encountered de official website and i'm read this01:53
ompauldentist, I don't do windows these are just clues I have absorbed01:54
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GenneXwell I am off, time to learn some bash scripting01:54
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asterisk99ompaul: apt-get install bum  ==== coudn't find package bum01:54
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ompaulasterisk99, on minute please01:54
rodney_Howdy.  Has any seen problems in Dapper4 with Evolution's Date Format?  It gives me MM/DD/YYYY but wants DD/MM/YYYY in return.01:54
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stonedwtf is with my connection01:55
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dentistompaul - cheers, i used nero must have done something wrong01:55
ompaul!tell asterisk99 about universe01:55
NicePicsHow stable is flight4? I am testing the live-cd and it seems good enough to update my breezy system. Comments?01:56
ompauldentist, k01:56
ulrikheya ppl..01:56
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ompaulasterisk99, have a look at the message from the bot01:56
rodney_I'm using flight4 on amd64 and it is nice01:56
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ompaulNicePics, it could be great today and be dead tomorrow01:56
ulrikdoes anyone know the motivation for keeping the latest ATI-driver out of dapper?01:56
Kouwewy dont i have my JAVA 1.4 in -> /usr/local/java1.401:56
Kouwewhere is it?01:56
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ulrik(fglrx, that is)01:56
zetardhow do i access my boot.ini to edit it for being able to boot into windows? (Adding right partitions)01:56
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ompaululrik, no clue maybe it ain't made it in yet01:57
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pdc303zetard: mount the drive. Unless it's ntfs...?01:57
ompaululrik, the ati factiod has a page with some interesting stuff on it01:57
NicePics<rodney> Did you do a clean install, dist-upgrade or what?01:57
zetardits ntfs :(01:57
ulrikompaul: allrighty.. :) any links?01:57
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ompaul!tell ulrik about ati01:58
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ompaululrik, read what the bot sent ya01:58
odatanyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 01:58
pdc303zetard: then mount the ntfs drive and edit your boot.ini. You will not be able to save it back though. Get NTFSDOS or something to copy the file back across01:58
Kouwehow can i see my java directory?!01:58
ompaul!tell odat about nvidia01:58
ompaulodat, read the page on how to do it correctly01:59
pdc303zetard: Linux can write to NTFS partitions too but it isn't considered safe01:59
ompaulodat, the bot just sent you a message01:59
ulrikompaul: allrighty.. thanks.. :)01:59
pdc303Q: what is the equivelent of fdisk /mbr ?01:59
meisamhi guys ..where can i find a g++ tutorial01:59
meisam?01:59
meisamplease i01:59
odatompaul, thanx but i'm having a problem not a newbie question01:59
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MarcNmeisam: do you really need it to be g++ specific?  Any C++ book would do.02:00
asterisk99ompaul: assuning command is sudo !tell asterisk      bash: !tell asterisk: event not found02:01
ompaulmeisam, don't use enter as punctuation please, http://www.cs.wm.edu/cspages/computing/tutorial/gpp.html02:01
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MarcNpdc303: you want to lay down a bootloader?  Read up on grub02:02
ompaulasterisk99, sorry don't understand  >>/msg ubotu FOO<< where foo is a command if there is something there02:02
meisamMarcN no  imean someyhin` help me for g++ compiler sth that i work on ubuntu02:02
pdc303MarcN: No. A hard disk is screwed02:02
Exxpertif i would like to run xgl and compiz,, should i use breezy or dapper? any difference?02:02
asterisk99ompaul: ya lost me  :/02:02
ompaulmeisam, if you want to install it the command line is >> sudo apt-get install build-essential<< just like in debian02:02
pdc303MarcN: Some programs detect it as ntfs (correct), but some say ext2. It will not mount in Linux or Windows. I guess the MBR is broken02:03
ompaulasterisk99, you got me lost first - what was that assuming stuff?02:03
meisamompaul i have installed it02:03
meisami dun know how to execute02:03
hatake_kakashipdc303: with careful settings, you maybe able to recover the data back provided that you know what you have set previously for the partitions via fdisk/cfdisk/parted02:04
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MarcNpdc303: it is possible for one disk to have multiple partitions.  Those partitions can be set for ntfs, ext3, etc.  one disk can have many partitions so that may be what you are seeing.02:04
asterisk99ompaul: sorry ... I didn;t usderstand your "!tell asterisk99 about universe" above02:04
ompaulmeisam, so the url I sent you but this is #ubuntu #g++ or #gcc would be much better for what yoiur looking for  (g++ -o executablefilenameNoDotsNeededNotWindows my_prog.cpp)02:04
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babowhat does it mean when a file in bash shows up as black-on-red ?02:05
hatake_kakashiasterisk99: it makes the bot 'ubotu' tell you about specific things.. 'universe' is an argument to parse the bot to tell you the required information02:05
Versedmorn02:05
pdc303MarcN: No. It only contains 1 NTFS partition. I have salvaged my important data. Now I just want my hard disk to be usable once again02:05
ompaulasterisk99, you have a message (query) from ubotu - it gives you the details02:05
hatake_kakashibabo: try 'file foo'02:05
meisamompaul thanks man02:05
hatake_kakashipdc303: its somewhat possible if your hard disk supports smartctl. Most hard disks do support smartctl, but depends on which02:06
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pdc303hatake_kakashi:  what is somewhat possible? I just want to fix/clean the mbr02:06
ulrikompaul: hmm, well this didn't really explain what's holding the latest fglrx out of the dapper archives, though.. ;)02:06
babohatake_kakashi: thanks ... it's a broken symbolic link. I'm having serious trouble trying to get my apache server running ... can someone help02:07
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manueleciao a tutti prima volta su ubuntu aiutoooooooooo02:07
hatake_kakashipdc303: hmm.. I'm not sure of the fdisk /mbr then02:07
ompaululrik, no it did not but it might get you somewhere if your stuck #ubuntu-motu might be a better place to try and get to grips with the dev aspect of it02:07
manuelecome ad aggiornare firefox????02:07
hatake_kakashibabo: nfi, I haven't setup apache before02:07
manuelegrazie02:07
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hatake_kakashi!tell manuele about es02:08
ompaululrik, or have a look at dapper objectives or some such on the wiki02:08
shikamaru85when i do a iwconfig i get a eth0,lo and sit0...can someone tell me what sit0 is?02:08
ulrikompaul: might be an idea, yes.. :)02:08
baboCan anyone help me with an apache setup  ?02:08
odatanyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 02:08
ulrikompaul: is there a way to find out who's maintaining a certain package?02:08
manueleI don't know how upgrade firefox02:08
robotgeekulrik: apt-cache show <package>02:09
hatake_kakashimanuele: to which version? latest?02:09
manueleI download the file and after02:09
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manueleyeah02:09
ompaululrik,  apt-cache show foo02:09
ulrikrobotgeek: sweet.. thanks.. :)02:09
robotgeekshikamaru85: don't worry about sit002:09
Exxpertanyone that used xgl in here?,02:09
hatake_kakashi!tell manuele about firefox1.502:09
manueleyes02:09
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hatake_kakashimanuele: did you follow that guide?02:09
ompaul!tell manuele about ff1.502:09
manueleyes02:10
ompaulmanuele, read the message fromthe bot02:10
ulrikExxpert: tried, but it's really unstable for me.. I suspect fglrx to be responsible.. :)02:10
shikamaru85robotgeek, it's just that i used ndiswrapper..it finds the hardware...i try to configure network and nothing apears besides eth002:10
asterisk99!tell asterisk99 about universe02:10
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robotgeekshikamaru85: ndiswrapper -l, shows the card?02:10
Exxpertulrik: if i would like to run xgl and compiz,, should i use breezy or dapper? any difference?02:11
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ghepawith the command line eject i can eject the cd tray, is there even a way to mount the cd-rom tray from the command line (or keyboard shortcuts)?02:11
robotgeekshikamaru85: anyways, don't the original drivers work?02:11
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shikamaru85robotgeek, it shows Installed ndis drivers:02:11
shikamaru85rt2500usb       driver present, hardware present02:11
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Exxpertulrik: Cant find a good answer:/02:11
linuxaddictsneed a clarification02:11
robotgeekshikamaru85: cool, looks like it's working :)02:12
robotgeekshikamaru85, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto02:12
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Exxpertulrik: I Searched around ubuntuforums:-(02:12
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jacquesmerdeanyone here got nvidia-glx working with dapper? does it require a symlink or something?02:12
linuxaddictshttp://www.linuxcompatible.org/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Flight_CD_4_s63908.html02:12
asterisk99ompaul: now I understand... it's a command to launch an IRC bot ---- only one problem, the answer is: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, asterisk9902:12
ulrikExxpert: you should definately go for dapper..02:13
linuxaddictsis this the latest release?02:13
linuxaddictsulrik,02:13
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linuxaddictsor Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger"02:13
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ulrikExxpert: be warned, though.. Xgl is HIGHLY experimental.. wouldn't advise it unless you're already running dapper for other reasons.02:13
Aragorn_Guardiani need a professuinal help with usb :)02:13
ompaulasterisk99, I am going to lunch I asked the bot to send you a message along time ago about universe - do this >>msg ubotu universe<< you need that for bum02:13
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Aragorn_Guardiani found this file: usb.ids....wanna know how i can use it to detect my device...02:14
Aragorn_Guardian:(02:14
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viviersfwhat would you guys say is the best tv program02:14
Aragorn_Guardianops... s/ssui/ssio/g02:14
viviersffor linux ?02:14
viviersfand thats in the repos ?02:14
shikamaru85robotgeek, so it's normal not to show eth1 or wlan0 in networking?02:14
Exxpertulrik: alright, is it not possible to run xgl on the breezy?02:15
robotgeekshikamaru85: does iwconfig list it?02:15
ulriklinuxaddicts: well, it's the latest unstable built CD, yes.. Breezy is the latest stable release..02:15
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shikamaru85robotgeek, nop :(02:15
ulrikExxpert: everything's possible.. ;)02:15
robotgeeklinuxaddicts: please turn off your public away, we are not interested :)02:15
viviersflinuxaddicts, addict is using MIRC :`(02:15
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Exxpertulrik: but harder, right?02:15
meisamompaul my terminal is not responding to my command like cd ...02:15
robotgeekshikamaru85: then i think you have a problem02:15
robotgeeklinuxaddicts: ^^02:15
linuxaddictshi02:16
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linuxaddictsi'm @ work on MS02:16
linuxaddictsso mIRC02:16
viviersflinuxaddicts, why you using mirc you trator02:16
linuxaddicts:(02:16
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ompaulmeisam, what did you do last?02:16
ulrikExxpert: definately harder.. you'll pretty much have to compile everything from scratch, I think..02:16
viviersfxchat for ms dude02:16
robotgeekouch02:16
ghepaDoes anyone know how to mount the cd-tray from the command line (or with keyboard shortcuts) ???02:16
ulrikExxpert: (including a LOT of deps..)02:16
meisamompaul hold on please.. i let u know02:16
Seveasrobotgeek, plublic away is considered kick-on-sight since it becomes very annoying very quickly02:16
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viviersfghepa, mount /dev/cdrom /media/02:17
robotgeekshikamaru85: why don't we try to compile the rt2x000 drivers?02:17
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robotgeekSeveas: i'll keep that in mind :)02:17
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Exxpertulrik: btw.. using amd x64 and thinking,, is it worth it to use a x64 distro? o should i go with the usual dapperdist?02:17
viviersflinuxaddicts, use xchat for MS then plz02:17
viviersf:)02:17
ghepacool viviersf! it works! thank you...02:17
asterisk99ompaul: aha!!! the porch light goes on...  I need to add a repository to synaptics in order to apt-get bum02:17
linuxaddicts'll do02:17
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Seveasor a less stupid mirc script02:17
viviersfghepa, mp02:18
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ompaulasterisk99, sudo apt-get install bum02:18
Exxpertulrik: thinking of drivers and so on..02:18
ulrikExxpert: actually I don't know.. never tried AMD64, and don't really know what problems/benefits it might give you..02:18
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meisamompaul meisam@ubuntumeisam:~$ /home/meisam/g++ workspace/m.cc02:18
meisambash: /home/meisam/g++: No such file or directory02:18
meisamompaul oh sorry02:18
ghepaviviersf: is there a way to mount it with a keyboard shortcut?02:18
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robotgeekmeisam: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:18
robotgeekmeisam: oops, sorry02:19
asterisk99ompaul: got that :)02:19
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ompaulrobotgeek, can you look after him I need food or I will fall down :)02:19
viviersfghepa, erm you can prolly make a shortcut for the command, but i dont know how to in gnome02:19
ompaulasterisk99, enjoy02:19
shikamaru85robotgeek, see that's the prob suposedly i should be using rt257002:19
robotgeekompaul: sure02:19
robotgeekshikamaru85: maybe not, rt2x00 is the combined driver02:19
ghepai'll take a look, thanks again02:20
shikamaru85robotgeek, that sound good..any howto like the other u just sent me?02:20
meisamompaul meisam@ubuntumeisam:~$ cd ~/home/meisam/g++ workspace/m.cc02:20
meisambash: cd: /home/meisam/home/meisam/g++: No such file or directory02:20
robotgeekshikamaru85: moment02:20
shikamaru85robotgeek, tks!02:20
robotgeekmeisam: which g++02:20
eXcessive-Are there any DC++ -like clients for Ubuntu?02:20
Exxpertulrik: Thanks for the help,, downloading now the i386 version of dapper..02:20
robotgeekeXcessive-: dcgui02:21
ulrikExxpert: allrighty.. :)02:21
SeveaseXcessive-, valknut (dcgui-qt in breezy, valknut in dapper)02:21
asterisk99ompaul: well, according to bum, asterisk is alreday there ... so it must be blowing up02:21
Sonobanatheres also dcpp02:21
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meisamrobotgeek no im not talking about the g++... ineed to know why the command cd is ngetting error when im using that02:22
meisam?02:22
robotgeekmeisam: what are you trying to do, actually?02:22
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eXcessive-sudo apt-get install dcgui - is that right?02:22
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meisamrobotgeek did u get it?02:22
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robotgeekmeisam: maybe you need to tab-complete your paths, to escape the spaces02:22
meisamrobotgeek how..i cant get u02:22
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meisamrobotgeek how can i get into the home directory02:23
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saik0eXcessive-, I know theres a DC++ linux beta client. Grabbed it from hoary backports last time i used it02:23
meisamrobotgeek or somewhere else02:24
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robotgeekmeisam: type cd ~/g++\ workspace02:24
meisamrobotgeek isn`t with cd02:24
robotgeekmeisam: and you can't cd to a file02:24
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meisamso u mean i should be aware odf space?02:25
shikamaru85robotgeek, found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500/DriverAndRaconfig02:25
shikamaru85robotgeek, went to ralink...says 2x00 highly experimental02:26
meisamrobotgeek all right then i ned to write g+02:26
meisam+02:26
meisamV yeah?02:26
robotgeekshikamaru85: hmm, okay.02:26
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robotgeekshikamaru85: yeah, try with the rt2750 driver (using same instructions, i guess)02:28
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robotgeekshimmmy: Fedora Core 4 2.6.11-1.1369 managed02:28
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robotgeekmy bad, sorry02:28
shikamaru85robotgeek, tks..i'll try02:28
robotgeekshikamaru85: WL-107G is your card?02:28
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drcurlHi02:29
robotgeekshikamaru85: if so, the rt2570 should work :)02:29
drcurlI finally decide to use Ubuntu. At begining, I found it slow but everything work so well that I can't resist ;) I will just buy some more RAM02:30
shikamaru85robotgeek, WL-167G :S02:31
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drcurlI have a problem with networking though. I have static ip at work and dhcp at home. After I enable dhcp with the dhcplient at home, I have to reconfigure my internet at work and reboot to get networking. Any easier solution?02:31
robotgeekshikamaru85: http://ralink.rapla.net/ so the rt2570 should work02:32
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thoegerhey there - I just dist-upgraded to dapper, and I did it in a very dirty way, so no surprise I'm in trouble... It's not much though. But my desktop looks awful, the background is drawn very badly.02:34
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jacquesmerdeis it ln -s file newlink, or ln -s newlink file?02:35
hardsleep0rre02:35
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thoeger...It helps temporarily when I kill nautilus, so I guess that'ts a clue. But also, with nautilus dead, it draws badly behins my transparent panel02:35
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thoegerAny idea what might be wrong?02:36
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Acidic32jacquesmerde: ln -s /file/to/link/to /this/is/the/newlink02:37
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jacquesmerdeAcidic32: i got no such file or directory. the first file existed!02:38
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jacquesmerdeAcidic32: oops. i'm an idiot. subdirectory of the newlink didnt exist yet02:39
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airjumphello02:43
kitty__hi.. i want to know if its possible to set what would be the windows start button on my keyboard to type a word when i hit it?02:43
meisamcould u help me?02:43
airjumpi search a good link for dualhead Information02:43
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dentisthmz, default root password?02:45
_jasonubotu: tell dentist about root02:45
dentisti see, interesting concept02:45
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thoegerBump... Any idea why my desktop background is drawn incorrectly (to put it mildly)?02:46
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_jasonthoeger: have you installed your video drivers?02:47
chromebuntugents, I have a problem with apt-get02:47
chromebuntu  cedega: Depends: xlibs (> 4.1.0) but it is not installable02:47
chromebuntuE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).02:47
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chromebuntuI'm installing on dapper, so xlibs have changed, how do I tell apt-get not to worry about it? Its working fine02:47
Seveaschromebuntu, get a cedega deb that is made for Ubuntu02:47
chromebuntuit is just looking for the wrong libs.02:47
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chromebuntuSeveas: yeah, this one is, but like I said - i'm crazy, and running dapper :)02:48
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Seveaschromebuntu, live on the edge: dpkg -i --force-depends bla.deb02:48
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chromebuntuSeveas: hmm, yeah I did that to install, but now apt-get gives me this whinge when I want to install something else, like openssh-server :)02:49
dentistuhm... well it seems the setup didn't adjust sudoers, as i can run sudo as that user02:49
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chromebuntuand I cant say "Shut up, its fine"02:49
thoeger_jason: Yes, and my panel and normal apps are working correctly. Just the background that is drawn as a mish-mash of the wallpaper and parts of the applications windows. And when I kill nautilus and the transparent panel, the wallpaper is just fine02:49
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chromebuntuI might have to dist-upgrade back to breezy until dapper is released? :)02:50
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Seveaschromebuntu, use equivs to create a dummy xlibs package02:51
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Seveasthat'll shut apt-get up02:51
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theD3viLSeveas: hey. Did you dist-upgrade yet? :)02:51
SeveastheD3viL, no02:51
chromebuntuSeveas: AHA! I knew dpkg could do that. How do I use equivs?if you point me to a manpage I'll be fine02:51
SeveasI02:51
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SeveasI'm strong, I resist 02:52
theD3viLSeveas: hehe, .. well, maybe do you know, how to copy from ext3 to ntfs ?02:52
Seveaschromebuntu, man equivs-build; man equivs-control02:52
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meisamsorry guys... is there any option to change the font color or font size in text editor?02:52
dentisti dont get it.. sudo passwd root, prompts for a passwd?02:52
chromebuntuSeveas: thanks very much02:52
Seveasdentist, it'll prompt 3 times02:52
chromebuntuaha No manual entry for equivs-build :)02:52
chromebuntui think its an optional package :)02:53
Seveasdentist, 1st time: enter your password, sencond and third time: enter the new root password02:53
emilysome how all my user .dmrc files have an error that says that it has the wrong permissions, and should be owned by user and have permissions 644, how do i fix this?02:53
dentistit just says "Password" - then says incorrect02:53
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Seveaschromebuntu, apt-get install equivs02:53
dentistafter the first prompt it says "sorry, try again."02:53
_jasondentist: optimally, you wouldn't do that and just use sudo.  But the password it prompts for is your user password02:53
sven_emily: chown user:usergroup .dmrc && chmod 644 .dmrc02:53
airjumphi one question tcpdump need root what is the password on the live cd02:53
sven_airjump: use sudo tcpdump02:53
dentist*DOH*02:54
dentistlmfao02:54
airjumpok02:54
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dentisti'm quite ashamed02:54
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dentisti blame it on the manual, it didn't tell me that!02:54
airjumpthanks sven_02:55
sven_in xorg, ctrl+alt+F1 has no effect (it should switch to vt1). ctrl+alt+backspace works. i have not disabled ctrl+alt+fn in my xorg.conf. what gives? xorg 6.8.2-77, ubuntu breezy.02:55
_jasondentist: that just means you didn't even try sudo once before running back to using root :)02:55
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theD3viLsven_: i think your keyboard layout is problem.02:55
emilysven_: do I sub user:usergroup with emily:emily?02:55
sven_emily: yes02:55
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chromebuntuSeveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/904802:56
sven_theD3viL: okay? any idea how to diagnose?02:56
emilythanks02:56
bigfoot1anybody know a quick way to add one single flie to a pocket pc? (I don't need syncing of all data.. just one single mp3 file)?02:56
chromebuntuSeveas: same problem :)02:56
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meisam_jason hi jason seems everybody is busy...would u please tell me the name of the channel for eclipse02:56
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_jasonmeisam: #eclipse maybe02:57
emilysven_:what would cause this to happen?02:57
sven_emily: many things. difficult to say02:57
meisam_jason thanks02:57
emilyok thats I am going to try to re login...02:58
theD3viLsven_: hm...which layout you have ?02:58
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sven_theD3viL: us dvorak02:58
sven_theD3viL: i have used it in debian and whatnot, without any problems02:59
theD3viLsven_: what about keys .. do you have 105 ?02:59
sven_oh, maybe that has something to say. let me check it out02:59
sven_pc10403:00
theD3viLtry 10503:00
sven_ok03:00
theD3viLyou must restart X03:00
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Seveaschromebuntu, dpkg -P cedega, apt-get -f install03:00
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sven_no effect, theD3viL. after restart and all03:01
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theD3viLsven_: hm..weird...03:01
sven_my ctrl+alt+f1 sequence sends these codes:  0x1b 0x1b 0x5b 0x31 0x31 0x5e03:01
theD3viLsven_: what if you try other layout ?03:01
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sven_theD3viL: well.. it sounds strange that it should be the layout.. but i can give it a shot.03:02
sven_i have, however, seen other forum posts with the exact same problem.. no solution, though.03:02
dentisthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LowMemorySystems03:02
theD3viLsven_: i am not sure but you can test :)03:02
chromebuntuSeveas: ouch, removed cedega haha03:02
dentistsudo apt-get install gdm x-window-system-core xterm icewm menu mozilla-firefox abiword synaptic03:02
dentistreturns cannot find icewm03:02
sven_theD3viL: i'll let you know if i figure it out03:02
dentisti've done a apt-get update03:02
Seveaschromebuntu, you need to reinstall it later anyway03:02
theD3viLsven_: okey, tnx03:02
chromebuntuoh well can at least install equivs now.03:02
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cradek!icewm03:03
ubotucradek: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:03
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Aragorn_Guardiani think i need recompile the kernel.;..:/03:03
Aragorn_Guardianohw can i do that???03:03
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Aragorn_Guardianwhat package must install???03:04
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theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: hi :)03:04
theD3viLArafangion: kernel-package03:04
Aragorn_GuardiantheD3viL:  hi...still unusbed... :(03:04
theD3viLwhoops03:04
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: kernel-package03:04
Aragorn_Guardianhehehe03:04
Aragorn_Guardianok03:04
theD3viLstill what ? :P03:04
dentistnm found out why03:04
Aragorn_Guardiani found this in a usb resource...03:04
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Aragorn_Guardianstil without my usb...hehehehe03:05
theD3viLoh...03:05
theD3viL:)03:05
Aragorn_GuardianOk under kernel 2.4.0-test10 works fine with a mod to the makefile under usb/storage Add -DCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_HP8200e to the EXTRA_CFLAGS and recompile... Mine is compiled into the kernel and hotplugging works fine with NO additives. All done under RH 603:05
theD3viLhope it will works03:05
kestaswill dapper have GNOME 2.14?03:05
theD3viLyou have 2.4 kernel ??03:05
kestasbecause GNOME 2.14 looks niiice03:05
theD3viLkestas: yes03:05
kestasexcellent :)03:05
theD3viL:)03:05
Seveaskestas, Ubuntu and gnome go hand in hand03:05
Aragorn_Guardiannice question...1 min03:05
theD3viLSeveas: not in server install, right ?03:05
kestasSeveas, ohh right I memember now03:05
kestasremember03:05
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nmgnome's hand isn't in ubuntu's hand03:06
nmubuntu just sort of lays their hands on gnome03:06
nm;D03:06
Aragorn_Guardian2.6.1003:06
chromebuntuError during the build process: Inappropriate ioctl for device at /usr/bin/equivs-build line 180, <IN> line 33.03:06
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chromebuntuah hahaha03:06
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chromebuntuthis is not my day03:06
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: hm..dont know =/Z03:07
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TueMragazzi c' qualcuno che mi sa dire come fare agg il fire fox03:07
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Ramunashello people03:07
TueMuna volta scaricato il file ??03:07
_jason!fr03:07
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais03:07
Ramunasis dapper stable enought for me to test it?03:07
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TueMDOV' L'ESEGUIBILE03:07
Ramunas*enough03:07
theD3viLRamunas: do not use dapper until it is not stable03:08
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Ramunasi know that its not stable03:08
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Aragorn_GuardiantheD3viL:  kernel-package cames with all i need....03:08
Aragorn_Guardian??03:08
Ramunasim using breezy now, and i got a bit bored03:08
theD3viLRamunas: it has some bugs...so03:08
Ramunasso i thought i`d test dapper out03:08
theD3viLRamunas: then do eyecandy if you are bored :)03:08
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TueMwhat they use to listen mp3 and to use p2p03:09
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: nope, gcc...g++..and many others...take a look at ubuntuforums..or debian :)03:09
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: or wait sec03:09
TueMthanks03:09
meisam_jason dear is this command right..its not responding...cd /home/g++ workspace03:09
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Ramunasmy hardware isnt ment to run eyecandy03:09
theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz (use zless or lynx), or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html03:09
_jasonmeisam: what are you trying to do?03:09
appI booted Ubuntu live, now how do I list the disk configuration that this machine has?03:09
nmapp: fdisk -l03:10
meisam_jason im trying to just get into a directory03:10
theD3viLnm: -p ?03:10
meisamto execute my cc files03:10
nm-l03:10
_jasonmeisam: it's usually /home/username03:10
Aragorn_GuardiantheD3viL:  ok03:10
theD3viLnm: last time when i use fdisk it was p :)03:10
meisam_jason what do u mean?03:10
appThx, nm03:11
nmthed3vil: no, listing the disk configuration uses -l03:11
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meisam_jason u mean i need to store my cc files in such dir like that?03:11
theD3viLnm: oh, configuration...sry .. i mean partitions03:11
nmtheD3viL, you're thinking of the fdisk interface itself, when you are using the program, the 'p' command will print the current partition table of the disk you're manipulating03:11
_jasonmeisam: your $HOME directory is /home/username.  So store them somewhere in there03:11
theD3viLnm: yep.sry03:11
rad4Christ-werk UHey guys03:12
TueMhow to use p2p in linux?03:12
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TueMthanks03:12
theD3viLTueM: apt-get install apollon, amule, ..03:12
_jasonubotu: tell TueM about p2p03:12
TueMapollon03:12
rad4Christ-werkTotally new to Linux, but is it hard to use as a fileserver?03:12
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rad4Christ-werkFor Windows PCs?03:12
TueMthere is a valid version of bear share thanks03:12
SR_Bronzerad4Christ-werk: Not hard at all03:13
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babohi guys, I have a sed script here      sed 's/.*name="__VIEWSTATE".*value=\"\([^"] *\)".*/\1/'            that parses out the value of viewstate. Unfortunately though it just removes the VIEWSTATE name and value and then empties the value string back into the file. So I end up with my VIEWSTATE value dumped in with the html page. I want the sed script to output only the matching pattern. Can anyone help ?03:14
theD3viLwhich version of kde is in ubuntu ?03:14
Aragorn_Guardiani like this way of compile the kernell.. 8)03:14
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theD3viLAragorn_Guardian: :)03:14
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Aragorn_Guardiani compli, create a image, and after install by dpkg...very good...03:15
theD3viLnice03:15
theD3viL:P03:15
Aragorn_Guardianno make bzlilo...hehehehe03:15
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chromebuntuSeveas: nope, thats not going to work,  libxft1 conflicts with xlibs so even when I make a fake package to satisfy the dependency, i cant install it. I think I need to roll back to breezy03:15
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theD3viLbzImage btw :P03:15
rad4Christ-werkSR_Bronze, OK. Well, I'm copying the data off my target drive now, so I can format it, but is there a way for Ubuntu to read/write on NTFS?03:15
Aragorn_Guardian8)03:15
theD3viLrad4Christ-werk: nope, writing not...reading yes.03:15
_jasonbabo: -n suppresses the output and use the p command at the end of that thing (I think)03:15
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LinuxJonesrad4Christ-werk: you should look at the samba howto for sharing files with windows or mac. It's on the wiki page >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%2903:16
rad4Christ-werkSO, I should go with ext3, and use the Windows driver to read/write est3 in WinXP?03:16
_jasonbabo: sed -n 's/foo/bar/p'file, is what I mean03:16
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: you don't want to start messing with ntfs. just make a fat32 partition, and use it as a 'shared'03:16
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baboexcellent - thanks03:16
Seveaschromebuntu, or fix up the cedega package to not require xlibs 03:16
rad4Christ-werkIT's a 250GB HD, and I don't beleive FAT32 supports that large of a partition.03:16
SR_Bronzerad4Christ-werk: speech recognition on: the last time I tried to use NTFS support under Linux was over two years ago.  It was not stable then.  I don't have any more recent experience03:16
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: so make one small enough for fat32 to use ;)03:17
rad4Christ-werkohgood, The data we have on it would make multiple partitions annoying and inhibitive to the structure desired.03:17
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: ok, got moof it with ntfs hacks then. good luck.03:18
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chromebuntuSeveas: any way to do that?03:18
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rad4Christ-werkBut there's a ext3 filesystem driver for WindowsXP. I'll test it. If it works, I'll go that route.03:18
saik0rad4Christ-werk, you can make a 250GB fat32 filesystem03:18
chromebuntuSeveas: can one 'edit' a .deb like that?03:18
SR_Bronzerad4Christ-werk: I recommend you use SAMBA.  Run your Windows machine and your Linux machines separately and use samba to serve files to and from your Linux machine to the Windows machine03:18
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LinuxJonesrad4Christ-werk: if the files are on the Linux box it doesn't matter what filesystem the files are on if you use Samba.03:19
jetscreamerno it doesn't03:19
jetscreamer32g03:19
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rad4Christ-werkSR_Bronze, is SAMBA a part of the Initial UBUNTU Distro, or downloadable?03:19
_jasonjetscreamer: that's only a silly windows limit03:19
Seveaschromebuntu, mkdir tempdir; dpkg-deb -X bla.deb tempdir; vim tempdir/DEBIAN/control/; dpkg-deb --build bla.deb tempdir (check the manpage for dpkg-deb to check the last command, not sure about the syntax)03:19
rad4Christ-werkWell, here's the reason I am concerned....03:19
SR_Bronzerad4Christ-werk: actually I'm not sure.  If it is not included, it is definitely downloadable because I know I have used it on ubuntu.03:19
rad4Christ-werkIf the server (our only Linux box) dies, I need a way to quickly connect to a WinXP box and share the needed files.03:20
appHow do I receive local mail from programs in Breezy Live cd? There is no "mail" command, and when I install mailx it install postfix and postdrop complains about a lock file.... no local mial works03:20
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chromebuntuSeveas: thanks, I'll give it a shot03:20
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jetscreamerwell there's a way lately in newer kernels to write to ntfs, but it's some (write in already existing files) thing...03:20
SR_Bronzeand adding more packages to ubuntu is very easy03:20
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: make backups ?03:20
rad4Christ-werkI back up to a removable hard drive each night, and I want to be able to connect that HD to another machine and be up and running if needed.03:20
jetscreamerbest to have a fat32/vfat dmz03:20
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: i really don't see the issue. if you have an extra box to rsync to nightly, and you backup everything from your smart shared fat32 partition(s)03:21
rad4Christ-werkWinXP can read the VFAT partition?03:21
jetscreamerof course03:21
rad4Christ-werkI'll go with FAT3203:21
rad4Christ-werkTHanks.03:21
ohgoodfinally03:21
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LinuxJonesrad4Christ-werk: well you can use a vfat filesystem (fat32) in that case it might be a better solution if you only have a single Linux machine.03:21
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rad4Christ-werkNow, be expecting more nub questions from me later on! :P03:21
rad4Christ-werkAnd thanks alot for the help so far.03:22
jetscreamerw/fat32/vfat you have a file size limit btw03:22
jetscreamer2gigs03:22
jetscreamerwindows can get around it03:22
ohgoodjetscreamer: split and cat can solve that03:22
LinuxJonesrad4Christ-werk: here's a howto for you to browse >>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%2903:22
jetscreameryeah and rar03:22
rad4Christ-werkjetscreamer, that's not a problem, the bulk of our storage are scanned documents.03:22
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mark_you touch my tralalala03:22
mark_ding ding03:23
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pingy!bin03:23
ubotupingy: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:23
Ainvarok, here is something for you that is baffling me. The volume knob in gnome that is in dapper (latest updates) shows an x by the speaker no matter if it is muted or not muted.03:24
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renlorehow come when i point my browser to the cgi script, it shows the source code instead of running it? :(03:25
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Ainvarif I right click on the speaker and tell it to mute then do thew same steps again to unmute it, it put the volume maxed at 100%03:25
pinga!deb03:25
ubotusomebody said deb was FUUUUUUUUUCK YOU!03:25
Seveasok03:25
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chromebuntuSeveas: ah, not sure yeah, um: dpkg-deb: failed to open package info file `/home/chrome/Desktop/cedega_5.1_i386.deb/DEBIAN/control' for reading: Not a directory03:25
MordofHow do i catch flags in shell scripts?03:25
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chromebuntugah, so lost with dpkg03:25
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MacbethAnyone know how to get a program to start on a different screen?03:25
chromebuntuI can build RPMs till the cows come home.03:25
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Seveas!no deb is <reply> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb03:25
ubotuSeveas: okay03:25
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ohgoodMacbeth: xinit -- :1         then start your program there03:26
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sven_ctrl+alt+fn problem solved: apt-get install xkeyboard-config03:26
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turtlesoupanyone here have experience with  Installation/WindowsServerNetboot method?03:26
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turtlesouphttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot03:26
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TueManyone here can tell me how I can install apollon?03:27
appSo no one knows why mailx installation on live cd (to have local mail) fails? Or postfix that it installs complains about missing "public/pickup"?03:27
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ohgoodturtlesoup: looks like a pretty thorough document. whats up ?03:28
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Mordofcan anyone point me at a tutorial or something for shell scripting?03:28
arrinmurrTueM: sudo apt-get install apollon ?03:28
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SeveasMordof, search tldp.org for the advanced bash scripting guide03:28
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turtlesoupohgood: i get the darn thing to start, it can see my windows desktop, then it just stops. i think the pxelinux.cfg is screwed somehow03:28
lusepusterby the way - is it my fault or the default dapper behaviour that there's no pre-installed desklets with gdesklets03:28
MordofSeveas: thanks03:28
TueMwhat mean sudo apt-get ?03:29
Macbeththat didn't work, it just killed both my screens, you know where theres some docs on it?03:29
TueMthanks03:29
lusepusterah, my bad. didn't insta the data... oops03:29
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chromebuntuoh, idiot.03:29
chromebuntume.03:30
Seveaschromebuntu, 03:30
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ideafixany one using ubuntix ?03:30
turtlesoupohgood: can you look at that wiki page again, i have a question03:30
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TueMwhat is sudo ?03:31
turtlesoupohgood: number 703:31
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ideafixits a sudoku clone03:32
chromebuntuSeveas: hmm, i seem to be missing one control file :/03:32
turtlesoupohgood: my router address is 192.168.1.254,  i add one to the address like it says. could that be the problem, setting it to 192.168.1.255?03:32
LinuxJonesturtlesoup: the .255 is not usable as an address03:33
turtlesoupLinuxJones: OK thanks!03:33
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rad4Christ-werkK guys, I'm back. Sorry.03:33
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rad4Christ-werkWhen setting up a share, is there an easy way to restrict the folders by username?03:34
chromebuntuSeveas: needs -e :)03:34
dmhey guys how do i CHROOT to my root partition form a LIVE CD03:34
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ideafixdm man chroot03:34
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dmideafix i do chroot /dev/sda2 but says it isnt a dir :P03:35
turtlesoupohgood: if i get my router setup with a different address ,192.168.1.1, and set tftp to use IP pool starting address 192.168.1.2   , will it work then?03:35
ohgooddm: it's not difficult, man chroot will have some nice explanations, and if not, google has tons of nice tutorials.03:35
ideafixof course it iosnt its a device03:35
Yagisananyone have a guide to installing ubuntu on a usb stick ?03:35
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ideafixmount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda03:36
dmohgood man chroot doesnt tell me anything, just explains what it is03:36
ideafixcgroot /mnt/sda03:36
ideafixchroot /mnt/sda03:36
ohgooddm: ok, then the latter of my comment.03:36
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ideafixsomething like that03:36
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ohgoodideafix: that's grossly incorrect.03:37
TueMI don't understand how t install linux software like apollo firefox03:37
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ideafixi think he got the point03:37
ohgooddm: if google doesn't provide enough help, or confuses you, pm me, and i'll help if i can03:38
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turtlesoupbe back later, thanks for the help all03:38
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LinuxJonesTueM: system >> administration >> synaptic package manager (enter your user password when asked), let me know when you get that done.03:38
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chromebuntuSeveas: dpkg -x cedega_5.1_i386.deb tempdir ; dpkg -e edega_5.1_i386.deb tempdir/DEBIAN/ ; vi tempdir/DEBIAN/control ; rm cedega_5.1_i386.deb ; dpkg-deb --build tempdir cedega_5.1_i386.deb03:39
chromebuntuthat worked for me :)03:39
dmohgood ive already googled it , what happed is my Dapper's netorking was borked by devs, and i cant access updates to fix it, so im in liveCD right now trying to download the patches through live CD to apply to my runnning dapper install03:39
TueMdone03:39
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LinuxJonesTueM: now click reload (this will get a file list from the servers for you)03:39
dmohgood people tell you to do shit and no one explains it ( on forums )03:40
ohgooddm: understood, it happens sometimes.03:40
rad4Christ-werkAnyone?03:40
ideafixdm you are suposed to figure it out by your self03:40
ideafixthats the way linux works :P03:40
TueMPardon and now?03:40
LinuxJonesTueM: if that went ok click the search button and type in the name of what you want to search for.03:41
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dmideafix well usually i do but ive tried everyhing i can think of , this is the last solution03:41
ohgooddm: if you have the livecd booted, and your / mounted somewhere, i suppose you could copy the files you need over to your messed up /, and then chroot, since networking won't work right now.03:41
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LinuxJonesTueM: is this a fresh install ?03:41
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ohgooddm: do you know what you need exactly ?03:41
SR_Bronzerad4Christ-werk: yes there is a way to do that.  It's in the SAMBA configuration files.  You will need to do some reading.03:41
ideafixdm mabey whast you are trying just wasnt meant to be :)03:41
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jetscreamerrad4Christ-werk: try the samba how-to on tldp.org maybe03:41
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dmohgood is there anyway to apt-get upgrade from livecd to your install ?03:42
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TueMI want to upgragrde firefox and to install apollo for p2p03:42
rad4Christ-werkSR_Bronze, I've found it I think.03:42
rad4Christ-werkIt's all command line,correct?03:42
ohgooddm: good question. i'd likely copy the needed networking information (if its config files) over to the moofed installation, then just do it from the chroot03:42
ideafixany one usaing expresso ?=03:43
YagisanNo one has installed ubuntu on a usb stick ?03:43
dmohgood like i said they borked networking and the supposid fix is under apt-get upgrade..03:43
LinuxJonesTueM: well that might be a bit difficult from the default repos03:43
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ohgooddm: let's try a chroot, and see what's moofed  then03:43
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dmohgood this is the worst break ever lol03:43
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LinuxJonesideafix: I tried it yesterday, and it's like not nearly ready.03:43
SR_Bronzerad4Christ-werk: no, there is a configuration file that allows you to set up rights and permissions for users on specific directories.03:44
ideafixwhat about a ubuntu light version for use with usb keys ?03:44
Nogimicshmmm is ubuntu a decent O/S to use for an IRC server?03:44
dmohgood one sec might be going03:44
TueMwhat is the default repos03:44
ohgoodok03:44
dmohgood i was using sudo under root.. lol03:44
dmohgood im such a dumbass03:44
LinuxJonesTueM: your running breezy ?03:44
ideafixhow do you do that ?03:45
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puppet2501hi03:45
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ideafixcan one sudo knosole ?03:45
Shadowpillarwill gnome 2.14 make it into dapper?03:45
dmsudo -i is a better use03:45
puppet2501I want to found the depot to had to source.list to have mbrola03:45
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ideafixcan i sudo konsole ?03:46
dmideafix sudo -i will make it root03:46
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ideafixwhats the difrence ?03:46
LinuxJonesShadowpillar: they are usually released within a day or so of Gnome's release03:46
dmif you crash it it wont fuck your system up03:46
TueMno03:46
ideafixwhont sudo konsole do the same ?03:46
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dmohgood i hope this fixes it , i want my linux back, wanna try to get WoW to work in it03:47
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Yagisanideafix: well, I have a 1GB stick, I imagine it could hold a fair sized install03:47
gaoshails03:47
ideafixi have a 125 megas one03:47
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ConfidentiaLHi, I have a problem getting the laptop's screen to work...:S Only the external screen shows a picture. The laptop screen turns itself up after boot...03:48
ideafixcan i install ubuntu to an ipod ?03:48
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chromebuntudm: I just got WoW working in dapper :)03:48
chromebuntudm: dont use the latest kernel, you need to use 2.6.15-1403:49
Yagisanideafix: I had a customer stiff me on a hardware order, so I got an exchange on the parts from my dealer for something useful03:49
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ConfidentiaLAny1 know what I need to do?03:50
Yagisanideafix: I suppose you could install on an ipod, but no idea if it would run. I'm not familiar with ipods03:50
dmAre update servers down ???03:50
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turtlesoupARRRRRRRRRRR!!!!03:50
chromebuntudm: for WoW?03:50
thegladiatorfriends03:51
dmchromebuntu well that too ,, but no ubuntu servers03:51
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dmchromebuntu when do the WoW servers come back up ?03:51
turtlesoupplease someone look at this and tell me WTF i am doing wrong      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28installation%2903:51
chromebuntudm: i just installed some packages just now, so unless they went down the last 5 minutes03:51
chromebuntudm: dunno03:51
NogimicsHow do you cancel a wget when its downloading? or move on to another command in PuTTy and let it continue please?03:51
ideafixare wowe servers down ?03:51
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toniohi03:52
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ohgoodNogimics: checkout 'screen'... it's wonderfull03:52
RubinNogimics: ctrl-c will cancel just about anything03:52
SR_BronzeNogimics: control C is how I stop a wget03:52
dentistok not my day, installed it.. everything was work fine.. rebooted, now it hags on "starting hotplug subsystem"03:52
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Nogimicsthanks guys03:52
dmchromebuntu im kinda new to WoW how long do these patches usually take?03:52
tonioi'm seeking a livecd for powerpc, featuring kernel 2.4 and strace03:52
chromebuntudm: usually 4-6 hours03:52
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thegladiatormy friend has a 64 bit amd processir03:52
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ConfidentiaLdentist: try disabling ur onboard sound if u got 1...03:53
dmchromebuntu how long has it been ?03:53
LinuxJonestonio: why would you want a 2.4 kernel ?03:53
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thegladiator"is there Pinnacle PCTV Pro drivers for Ubuntu"03:53
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chromebuntudm: couple of hours now I guess03:53
thegladiatorthis is what he is askin03:53
tonioLinuxJones: because i need to strace a process under linux ppc, without ntpl03:53
dmohgood oh great now wireless on livecd stopped working03:53
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dentistok it seems pressing ctrl-c a whole bunch of times before it loads hotplug works03:54
chromebuntudm: haha man its not your day now eh03:54
rad4Christ-werkSR_Bronze, Thanks for the help so far. I'm following a Wiki right now, and it is helping tremendously.03:54
turtlesoupi am getting error:   PXE-E32: TFTP OPEN TIMEOUT03:54
ConfidentiaLMy laptorp screen isnt working on linux! Only the external one!03:54
thegladiator"is there Pinnacle PCTV Pro drivers for Ubuntu" someone know the answer for this ?03:54
rad4Christ-werkOne other Question, is there a quick backup utility you recommend to sync data with an external hard drive?03:54
dmchromebuntu aye its not, called off from work cause i have the stomach flu to boot03:54
jimcooncatare there keyboard shortcuts in xfce that change the screen resolution?03:54
TueMLinuxJones : thank u very much03:54
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: rsync03:54
chromebuntudm: oh dude, thats not good - you should rest up03:55
dmchromebuntu i never sleep when im sick, just cant fall asleep03:55
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LinuxJonesTueM: have fun :)03:55
thegladiator_jason, Seveas are u here ?03:55
rad4Christ-werkohgood, is that a command line, or GUI app?03:55
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tonioLinuxJones: i only found an old knoppix live cd with 2.4, but it lacks strace03:56
thegladiator"is there Pinnacle PCTV Pro drivers for Ubuntu" - for 64 bit computer specifically03:56
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: cli03:56
rad4Christ-werk?03:56
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turtlesoupcan someone help me with this:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28installation%2903:56
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SR_Bronzecli equals command line option03:56
TueMgood work03:56
SR_Bronzeloops excuse me, command line interface03:56
Yagisanthegladiator: try the bt878 driver03:56
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rad4Christ-werkOK, in that case I need to find a way to write a batch file for it then.03:56
Yagisanthegladiator: works for my pinacle pctv card03:57
ubuntu_and networking is back up yay03:57
phor2zeroI'm looking for a good linux dist to install on a 566Mhz celeron...  the ubuntu live-cd is TOO-SLOW.  Will it work if I install it?03:57
thegladiatorYagisan, 64 bit ?03:57
ideafixany one wanna join #psytrance ops to the 1st 5 joins :)03:57
Yagisanthegladiator: yep :)03:57
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LinuxJonestonio: I wonder if you can install strace in ram while in that live environment ?03:57
rad4Christ-werkAs I'm not always the one to do the backup, and the others are completely illiterate (instead of just Linux illiterate like me :P)03:57
ohgoodphor2zero: livecd's are inherently slow. installed is always faster03:57
dentistmm anyone know how to deny/enable a user to login to X?03:57
SR_Bronzerad4Christ-werk: you mean a script.  :-) we don't have batch files on UNIX.  It's a vocabulary difference.03:57
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thegladiatorwow , thanks I shall tell him03:57
ConfidentiaLAny1?? My laptop screen is totally black after linux have booted up, I can only use linux if I have an external screen connected. Any1 know what's wrong?03:57
Yagisanthegladiator: sudo modprobe bt878 should load it03:57
rad4Christ-werk:P Then point me to how to write a script.03:57
oneseventeenIs there a way to make it so when I maximize windows in gnome, they leave a 20 pixel gap at the bottom of the screen?03:57
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: what kind of laptop is it ?03:58
rad4Christ-werkI see all the options for rsync, I just need an icon on the desktop to run said script.03:58
dmLaptop LCD is dead?03:58
thegladiatoryep i am telling him straightwaya atm..03:58
ConfidentiaLAsus A6Va03:58
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: you could setup a cron job to backup nightly, with rsync03:58
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ConfidentiaLYeh, totally dead after the boot...03:58
phor2zeroohgood:  would you expect ubuntu to run okay on an old 566Celeron w/178MB Ram?.. or is there another dist that would work better?03:58
ompaulphor2zero, there is a thing called xubuntu03:59
ubuntu__confidential i would boot up livecd or another OS to see if it still works.03:59
ohgoodphor2zero: it would be fine. i would likely use fluxbox for a windowmanager though03:59
rad4Christ-werkohgood, no good. I need to lock the External in a fire safe daily.03:59
Yagisanthegladiator: on my system it shows up as "0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)" when you run lspci, so if his looks similar it should work fine03:59
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: what does that have to do with backing up ?03:59
ideafixohgood if you stup a cron job the invoked command/program will run has root ?03:59
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rad4Christ-werkI'll have a backup utility run nightly based from an XP machine.03:59
ompaulphor2zero, built with the slower older machine in mind03:59
thegladiatorYagisan, ah yep04:00
ohgoodideafix: it runs as whoever it's supposed to run ... this is setup befor hand04:00
ideafixohgood if you setup a cron job the invoked command/program will run has root ?04:00
rad4Christ-werkI back up to an external HD, then disconnect the drive and store it in a safe.04:00
phor2zeroompaul: thanx,  i'll look it up.04:00
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ideafixhow iove never did any cron jobs04:00
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ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: so, just do it yourself. rsync will be fine for that04:00
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ConfidentiaLubuntu_ : Windows XP is running fine with the screen...04:00
ideafixis there any gui to use cron ?04:00
rad4Christ-werkYeah, but I need it in a script, should I not be here, and someone else has to run it.04:00
ohgoodideafix: man cron, or take a look at the files in /etc/       it's nice04:00
Kyralideafix: Gnome-Schedule is decent04:01
rad4Christ-werkNM, I'll look into it when I get there, I'm sure it's possible.04:01
NogimicsDoes anyone know where I can get the openssl binary and openssl development libraries pls?04:01
ubuntu_confidential hmm you have DPMS set in your xorg.conf? and are you running dapper?04:01
ohgoodrad4Christ-werk: at least read teh manpage. sheesh.04:01
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: that machine has an ati graphics card ?04:01
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miketechHi04:01
Kyralbut I just usually make a script and put it in cron.d/cron.daily/cron.weekly/cron.hourly/cron.monthly04:01
gamblercan ubuntu use login/password as default login/password to window shares?04:01
ideafixcan i run linux with out GNU ?04:01
ohgoodlol04:01
miketechI wanna install dapper drake for testing parallel to a windows/Mandriva system. Is dapper working good enough at the moment to install it on this machine?04:01
TueMwhat is gedit04:02
turtlesoupscrew it. linux gets placed in the circular file for now.04:02
miketechOr is the installation process buggy at the moment?04:02
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ConfidentiaLLinuxJones: yes04:02
ohgoodideafix: you're the same person that gets kicked from #suse everytime you join, right ?04:02
dreamil|labhi all04:02
ideafixno its my dumb brother04:02
ohgoodsurrrrre04:02
gamblerohgood: no provocation plesea04:02
LinuxJonesmiketech: I am running dapper and it seems fine for me.04:02
ConfidentiaLMobility RAdeon x70004:02
dmmiketech try next week04:02
dentistmmm anyone know how to enable xfce4 to login as root?04:02
miketechdm, what is next week?04:02
dmconfidential are you running dapper?04:02
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ohgoodgambler: that was a question. there is a difference.04:02
miketecha new flight?04:02
ConfidentiaLdm : dapper???04:02
robotgeekdentist: hmm, please don't do that04:02
dmmiketech they broke alot of shit yesterday04:02
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miketechoh ok04:03
dentistyes i know04:03
gamblerreboot press esc choose recovery console and you are root04:03
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: you might want to install the binary drivers for your ati card.04:03
dentistits taboo04:03
miketechand the flight isn't working too?04:03
dentistbut i'd like to do it anyhow04:03
gamblerit sounded provocative yto me04:03
ideafixfglight has been opstponed04:03
bur[n] erwhat broke in dapper?04:03
ConfidentiaLLinuxJones : Im a bit noob, so, how do I do that?04:03
dreamil|labi have installed 5.10 ubuntu installed on my amd64bit machine04:04
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bur[n] er!ati04:04
uboturumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358904:04
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: does your screen work if the second monitor is not plugged in ?04:04
dreamil|labfirst thing is mozilla firefox is not starting04:04
ConfidentiaLLinuxJones : nope04:04
dmdreamil|lab reboot computer to get FF working04:04
dreamil|labrebooted 4 times04:04
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ompaulbur[n] er,  it (dapper) is in a state of flux until the 20th of april04:04
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: are you on the linux machine right now, or another one ?04:05
dreamil|labnow when i try to install firefox from sources,04:05
bur[n] erompaul: it's actually working pretty well here04:05
dreamil|labmake fails with this error04:05
ConfidentiaLOn it now...04:05
bur[n] erexcept for the clock applet04:05
Kyraldreamil|lab: no paste here04:05
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: you only have 1 machine right ?04:05
dmhow do i start the netstatus applet?04:05
Kyraldreamil|lab: put it in the pastebin04:05
bur[n] erdapper development == more stable than breezy development04:05
dentistso anyone, xfce4? i can see how to do it with gnome and kde, just not fxce404:05
ompaulbur[n] er, well report that which does not work as it will never be changed after the release04:05
MarcNbur[n] er: I'm running dapper and it has been pretty stable for me, especially lately.  excepting mono stuff.04:06
ConfidentiaLLinuxJones : I have a server machine with windows XP also...04:06
bur[n] erdentist: do what?04:06
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bur[n] erompaul: i know :)04:06
dentistlogin as root on xfce404:06
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bur[n] erdentist: how is it different than kde/gnome?04:06
dreamil|labhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/A9mrdO58.html04:06
MarcNbur[n] er: what do you see breaking?04:06
dreamil|labKyral, i know :)04:06
Kyralokay04:07
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: ok well can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin.ca ?04:07
dentistwell kde has its own config file04:07
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bur[n] erMarcN: so far, only the clock applet crashes... and xgl isn't very stable, but that's expected04:07
dentistkdmrc04:07
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: I am off for a quick cig brb04:07
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bur[n] erdentist: kdmrc is just for teh kdm login thing04:07
bur[n] erdentist: not really relevant to logging in as root for xfce04:08
dentisti want to login using root to xfce04:08
dentisthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:08
bur[n] erdentist: so just do it... from gdm or kdm, pick teh Xfce Session04:08
bur[n] erdentist: or open a term and use sudo04:08
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ljldentist: it will depend on whether you use gdm, kdm, xdm or something else. you must enable root login from the config file04:09
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dentistthats not really an answer to my question.. i'm asking how to enable the root login, wheres the config04:09
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ompaulbur[n] er, sorry, the only reason that I make those noises is to keep those who should not run it not running it, this is as we both know a case of the latest and greatest being stable we wait for 20th April for that :)04:09
bur[n] erdentist: depends if you use gdm or kdm or xdm04:09
bur[n] erompaul: very true :)04:09
dentistim using gdm04:09
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bur[n] erdentist: when logged in as a user... run "sudo gdmsetup"04:09
phor2zeroDoes xubuntu include java?  spouse needs pogo.com games, lol ;)04:09
ohgoodompaul: what happens on the 20th ?04:09
bur[n] erphor2zero: it doesn't, but easily installed04:10
Yagisandentist: you do know it is a bad idea to log in as root, esp to a X session ?04:10
ompaul!dapper04:10
ubotumethinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.04:10
dmohgood nope its perminently borked and the yhavnet fixed it yet lol , i have to use windows now :( MF !!04:10
dentistyes i know its a very bad idea.. its taboo etc etc etc04:10
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ohgooddm: what exactly did you install to accomplish the moofing ?04:11
LjLdentist: judging from google, it seems there might be an "allowrootlogin" or something option in /etc/gdm/somewhere04:11
ompaulbur[n] er, 6.04 is the final name 2006 and month 404:11
LjLdentist: i would just grep for "allow" (use the "-i" option, since it's probably "Allow") into /etc/gdm/*04:11
dmohgood sudo apt.get dist-upgrade .. thats what killed all networking known to man in dapper04:11
kestasis there any software for managing your time?04:11
LjLdentist: i don't have gdm myself04:11
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dentistyah i've found the gdm setup04:11
kestasso you can allocate a certain amount of time to a certain project and it'll let you know which projects you need to spend more time on?04:11
dreamil|labwell, any comments on http://rafb.net/paste/results/A9mrdO58.html04:11
ohgoodompaul: is there a xgl release planned on the 20th or something ?04:12
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LjLkestas: there's plenty, though i couldn't name one right now... but i think that feature is there by default in kubuntu. i suppose there might be a program for that in ubuntu by default as well04:12
cradekdoes anyone know whether the kernel version for dapper is decided and fixed yet?04:12
NogimicsHas anyone installed unrealircd on ubuntu here?04:12
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hatake_kakashihttp://kidsquid.com/programs/ubuntu/firefox-1.5.0-0nonfree1_i386.tar.gz <--- site no longer host such a file from that ubuntuwiki for firefox1.504:12
LjLkestas: perhaps "gtodo"?04:12
ompauldentist, you can use sudo update-alternatives --all  and that will allow you change some basic configs04:13
dmcradek its not04:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcan anyone tell me of a good app that can keep track of inventory?04:13
cradekdm: thanks04:13
ompaulohgood, the 20th of April is the day that Ubuntus next release comes out04:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor ubuntu?04:13
bur[n] erompaul: 4/20 :)04:14
NogimicsHas anyone installed unrealircd on ubuntu here?04:14
HwyXingFroghello, any good basic image editors (like Paint for windows)?04:14
thegladiatorfolkz i am doomed it seems , it all started when I installed theme for Firefox 1.5 , i cant start FF now , it opens that "talkback" thingy ...what can I do now ?04:14
bur[n] erHwyXingFrog: tuxpaint ?04:14
ompaul burner where I live we do 20-04-0604:14
phor2zero4:20 :)04:14
ohgoodompaul: ohhh, i see. i'll assume there will be a still developmental xgl then, or is the crystal ball still hazy on xgl developemnts ?04:14
HwyXingFrogthanks burner04:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe gimp is quite nice for pics04:14
LjLHwyXingFrog: gpaint?04:14
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: like a cd collection ?04:14
kestasLjL, hmm kind of, but I was thinking something for ongoing projects rather than specific tasks04:14
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HwyXingFrogi will try gpaint too04:14
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LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: or like inventory for a business ?04:14
bur[n] erHwyXingFrog: gimp is great, but a little more like photoshop04:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYno like how many of part # 177-85-095 i have04:15
ompaulohgood, I don't know that, if it is not hard to implement, I don't know if it will be part of the base04:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYand what the part is even04:15
LjLkestas: then you need "apt-cache search project manage gnome", a few things show up04:15
ompaulohgood, forget the if04:15
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: so it would be lots and lots of inventory ?04:15
ohgoodompaul: done :)04:15
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LjLkestas: well, actually, i think you should just try "planner"04:15
bur[n] erompaul: i like our date format better :)   legalize it ;)04:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYno i am just a clock shop04:15
HwyXingFrogi tried gimp, but i want something more basidc04:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't have that much in stock maybe a 100 or so items at a time04:16
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LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: oh you can use openoffice base for something like that04:16
LjLHwyXingFrog: there was a very simple paining program for KDE as well, either kpaint or kolourpaint i think04:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o04:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't want to i want to have a program that does that04:16
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=== bur[n] er would develop a php/mysql solution for inventory to have cross-platform web-based access :)
ChurcH_of_FoamYnot open office lol04:16
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LjLbur[n] er: that's egroupware i guess ;)04:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYLinuxJones,  so do you know of a program that can do that?04:17
HwyXingFrogi was looking for kpaint, i guess it is called kolourpaint04:17
HwyXingFrog.....downloading now04:17
HwyXingFrogthanks04:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust keep track of inventory and what i have for stock?04:17
bur[n] erChurcH_of_FoamY: why not OO.o base?04:17
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bur[n] erChurcH_of_FoamY: or even a simple OO.o calc spreadsheet04:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYbecause i don't feel like learning a whole bunch of new things just to do something small04:17
bur[n] erspreadsheets are simple :)04:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi want a program that i can say ok i have x amount of item number04:18
TueMhow can use to see divx04:18
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TueMthanks04:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't want to bother with spreadsheets04:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol04:18
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pdc303Anyone else having problems running gksu gdmsetup?  It dies on me instantly04:19
TueMtotem04:19
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: yes open office has a database program called Base for small scale inventory stuff but you will have to enter all of the info by hand. It can be tied into other databases if you have the info already in a datatabase, providing Openoffice can open the database type.04:19
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fakeolliehey, have any of you guys ever seen a launcher behaving differently when it's on desktop than when it's on a panel?04:19
robotgeekpdc303: you need gksudo gdmsetup04:19
trappistChurcH_of_FoamY: dude, write a ruby-on-rails app with a postgresql backend04:19
TueMI have problem with totem to see divx files04:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o say wha?04:19
LjLChurcH_of_FoamY: i really can't think of anything simpler than a spreadsheet for something like that... even if you found a specialized program (but i can only find egroupware, which is quite complex), it'd probably have more features -- and a harder learning curve -- than a plain spreadsheet04:19
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pdc303robotgeek: The system menu uses gksu gdmsetup04:19
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: it's not a spreadsheet it's like dbase or whatever like foxpro.04:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i will check it out O_o04:20
TueMsomebody help me04:20
TueMplease04:20
robotgeekpdc303: hm, okay. i did not know that04:20
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LjL!tell tuem about divx04:20
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pdc303robotgeek:  I see glibc errors in the terminal :\04:21
IdleOne!somebody04:21
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>04:21
TueMtotem don't read my divx04:21
bur[n] er!tell TueM about w32codecs04:21
bur[n] erTueM: check yer msgs04:21
LjLTueM: have you actually tried following ubotu's instructions?04:21
TueMwhat04:21
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bur[n] erTueM: ubotu msged you with instructions04:21
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TueMjust a minute please04:21
IdleOne!w32codecs04:21
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install04:21
LjLTueM: you have another window open, where Ubotu (the channel's bot) has told you about a good link with instructions for installing video codecs04:21
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: if you have flash installed here are some flash demos of base (the ones at the botton) >> http://k12edcom.org/?q=node/1104:22
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TueMThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins04:22
TueMthis is the message04:22
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LjLTueM: yes. have you tried following the instructions?04:22
munzirhi, I did install ubuntu 6.04 beta and mysql -u root don't work whereas sudo mysql -u root works, Is this a bug or is all ubuntu have this problem?04:22
appI am trying to run Ettercap on Breezy live cd. My "victim" host clearly is spoofed, but Ettercap reports no traffic in GUI mode. Any ideas?04:23
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TueMIn synaptic I have installed all about TOTEM04:23
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TueMbut is the same thing04:23
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LjLTueM: looking at the instructions, it doesn't seem to me that installing "all about totem" is quite enough. again, care to try the instructions first?04:24
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ChurcH_of_FoamYLinuxJones,  hey i can't get oo.o2 to work right keeps hanging on me for some reason any other ideas?04:25
fevelim having trouble making my geforces tvout to work the tutorial from the official website didnt work, can someone teach me a faster way?04:25
TueMthank u04:25
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: what are you running breezy ?04:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea04:26
b0oI'm sure this is a repositoy thing but I seem to be missing something, I'm trying to install sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl (for XML::Parser) but i'm getting a request for the cdrom04:26
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renlorewhat are dapper repositories?04:26
munzirhi, I did install ubuntu 6.04 beta and mysql -u root don't work whereas sudo mysql -u root works, Is this a bug or is all ubuntu have this problem?04:26
LjLb0o: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and comment out the line that mentions the cd rom (first line usually)04:26
bur[n] erb0o: change your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the cdrom line04:26
_jasonb0o: comment the cd-rom repo (should be first line) in /etc/apt/sources.list04:26
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munzirb0o: why don't you use your cd?04:27
b0oha04:27
b0obingo04:27
b0othanks :)04:27
TueMwhere I can find the codec for totem ? thank u04:27
b0oI'm remote right now, can't get to the machine04:27
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kestasLjL, looks like I'll be writing my own :(04:27
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renlorewin32 codecs are restricted due to proprietory rights right?04:27
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: other than that I might suggest mysql, there are probably some nice gui tools for creating and managing the inventory much like Base does.04:28
LjLTueM: look, the instructions say "If your country's laws allow you to play media using the w32codecs, use your web browser to download the file w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb from [WWW]  here to your Desktop, and, in a terminal, type:"  ---  so, have you tried that place?04:28
LjLrenlore: they're restricted 'cause they're binary-only things04:28
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LjLrenlore: they're not free software04:28
TueMno04:28
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY: best to look on the mysql website and see what gui interfaces they have to suite your needs.04:28
LjLTueM: then, let me repeat it once again -- what about trying the official instructions, as first thing? *then*, if they don't work for some reason, ask04:29
kdean06It's been long since I've been in here... Setting up a new server and I'm getting "eth1: Command 0x3002 did not complete! Status 0xf000" and my connection dies. ANy causes and solutions?04:29
SonicYoothNewb Question: Can anyone tell me how to get KNotes to start when ubuntu boots?04:29
SonicYoothautomatically I mean?04:29
LjLTueM: really, i can't think of anything more extensive than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (the link Ubotu gave you) for installing video/audio codecs and this sort of things04:30
IdleOneLjL:  that legal notice concerning the w32codecs can be intimmidating to some ppl...but i guess it is necessary04:30
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LjLSonicYooth: are you using KDE? you can tell it to save your session when you shutdown/logout04:30
jocodel1hola04:30
ConfidentiaLHow can I install binary driver for my Mobility Radeon x700?04:30
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TueMthank u very much04:30
SonicYoothLjL: Actually I'm using Gnome04:31
LjLIdleOne: well, unlicenced codecs can definitely be illegal for people to use, depending on the country they're in04:31
LinuxJonesSonicYooth: System >> Preferences >> Sessions (click on Startup Programs Tab)04:31
SonicYoothbut i think maybe theres a similar thing in gnome04:31
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LjLSonicYooth: well, i suppose gnome has some similar feature04:31
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jocodel1hola04:31
SonicYooththere it is - found it - thanks guys04:31
jocodel1hola04:31
SonicYoothI love ubuntu. I'm never going back. :)04:31
TueMthank u for your support04:31
renlorei love ubuntu too :)04:31
LinuxJonesSonicYooth: heh04:31
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IdleOneLjL: how many goverments are using unlicensed technologies as we speak and at the same time tell theyre citizens they cant :/04:32
renloretrue heh04:32
IdleOneoff-topic I know04:32
LjLi've fallen in complete love with (k)ubuntu just recently, with the KDE 3.5.1 packages... 'cause the X startup screen is now *black*, instead of the horrible gray pattern it used to show! this is really the best thing in linux since sliced kernels04:32
kdean06Setting up a new server and I'm getting "eth1: Command 0x3002 did not complete! Status 0xf000" and my connection dies. ANy causes and solutions? Would replacing my NIC solve this?04:33
fakeollieI made a desktop launcher for gnome-obex-send. when I drag files there, they get sent to my bluetooth phone. it works every time. now, I put the same exact launcher in a panel, it doesn't work. I drag the files, gnome-obex-send runs, but can't connect. any ideas? -- I was looking in the forums and someone else had the same problem with a media player, when run from a desktop launcher... has sound. from a panel... no sound. weird or wha04:33
ideafixIdleOne: you better watch out im licenced to hack ! :)04:33
meisamhi, guys... i need to unistall eclipse from my ubuntu04:33
LjLIdleOne: well, i don't necessarly condemn those who use a stupid codec illegally. but, it's still illegal for them to use it, and they better know04:33
meisamhow can i do that?04:33
IdleOneLjL:  indeed04:33
IdleOnemeisam:  sudo apt-get install sclipse04:34
LinuxJoneskdean06: what kind of network card is it ?04:34
IdleOneeclipse04:34
kdean06LinuxJones, I believe it's a 10/100 3Com something or other.04:34
meisamIdleOne unistall..!!!04:34
IdleOnemeisam:  sudo apt-get remove packagename04:34
fevelI find eclipse from the official repositories quite buggy04:34
hatake_kakashikdean06: lspci| grep 3Com04:34
LinuxJoneskdean06: you can do lspci to see what model of hardware you have.04:35
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IdleOnemeisam:  I misread sorry :/04:35
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meisamIdleOne never mind04:35
meisamIdleOne packagename = eclipse ?04:35
IdleOneyes04:35
IdleOneI guess it does04:35
meisamIdleOne thanks04:35
IdleOnenp04:35
Tomcat_Xgl & compiz is quite awesome. :D04:35
ConfidentiaLIf Im gonna install driver for my ATI card, how do I know what X-Windows Version I have?04:36
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yggdrasil__ok can somone help me im trying to do something where i need gcc 3.4 and im trying to make menuconfig but i keep getting a ton of errors when i do it04:36
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IdleOneyggdrasil:  eggdrop?04:36
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: you can just install the binary driver for ati cards for your kernel in the restricted repo.04:36
kdean06LinuxJones, Odd. I do the lspci and don't get anything for 3com. I get one ethernet controller, ALi corp, but that's the onboard one that I'm not using...04:37
wearealloneany 1 have the patience for a novice?04:37
yggdrasil__idle one its vdr04:37
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LinuxJoneskdean06: are you dual booting with windows ?04:37
ConfidentiaLLinuxJones : Im all new to this, how do I do that?04:38
thegladiatorfolkz i am doomed it seems , it all started when I installed theme for Firefox 1.5 , i cant start FF now , it opens that "talkback" thingy ...what can I do now ?04:38
kdean06LinuxJones, Absolutely not. The machine I'm having issues with is a server. :-P04:38
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IdleOneyggdrasil:  type sudo apt-get install gcc04:38
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: 1 sec will get you a link04:38
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yggdrasil__idleone i dont think thats it04:38
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yggdrasil__ive got gcc 3.4 in04:38
weareallonei just want to access the ntfs part of my hard drive04:38
yggdrasil__stalled04:38
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bur[n] eranyone know much about getting aiglx to work?04:38
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JoZg04:38
LinuxJoneskdean06: unless you can find out in computers documentation open the case and look at the card and get the model/make and write it down.04:38
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yggdrasil__wearallone sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfsdrive04:39
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dimastacan anyone hear me?04:39
yggdrasil__yes dimasta04:39
IdleOnewe hear you04:39
dimastaokay, ;)04:39
IdleOneread you04:39
yggdrasil__whats the pastebin site04:39
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yggdrasil__i hear you cluckin big chicken04:39
IdleOne!pastebin04:39
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)04:39
munzirWHERE should I report bugs to ubuntu 6.04? is there an irc channel for discussions?04:39
thegladiatorwhere to get the bt878 driver for pinnacle tv on 64 bit ?04:40
IdleOne!dapper04:40
ubotuI guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.04:40
l0holy crap, theres more people in here than in #debian04:40
IdleOne!bugtracker04:40
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne04:40
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thegladiatordoes anyone know abotu bt 8778 driver ?04:40
IdleOneI know there is a place just cant emember it right now munzir04:40
bur[n] ermunzir: launchpad.net04:40
thegladiatorlike where can I install it ?04:41
yggdrasil__im trying to deal kind of with it now thegladiator i have a twinhan visionplus04:41
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jetscreamerthegladiator: modprobe04:41
LinuxJonesConfidentiaL: I have to split for an hour or so search the wiki or maybe someone can get you a link using uboto here in the channel. BYE04:41
ConfidentiaLLinuxJones : Did you find the link?04:41
ConfidentiaLoh, lol:P04:41
SeveasIdleOne, launchpad.net/malone04:41
Seveas!bug04:41
ubotuSeveas: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:41
jetscreamerthegladiator: also apt-get install modconf04:41
thegladiatorhey yggdrasil where to download it from but ?04:41
Seveas!bugs04:41
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dimastathere ist something wrong in ubuntu I think. When I'm deleting firefox ubuntu wants to delete gnome-app-install too04:41
thegladiatorjetscreamer, whats modprobe?04:41
IdleOneSeveas:  thank you04:41
yggdrasil__um04:41
jetscreamerit's in the kernel04:41
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thegladiatorlike just need the packg name04:41
_jasondimasta: gnome-app-install depends on firefox04:41
jetscreamerthegladiator: it loads modules04:41
bur[n] erSeveas: have you ever made an azureus package?04:41
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thegladiatorjetscreamer, if I do apt-get install modconf04:42
Seveasburner, nope04:42
thegladiatordo I get the tv program also?04:42
jetscreamerthegladiator: modconf is a front end for loading kernel modules04:42
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thegladiatori see...and what about the tv player program ?04:42
weareallone!ntfs04:42
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:42
bur[n] erSeveas: cool, thanks, i heard a dirty rumor ;)04:42
Seveasbur[n] er, hehe04:42
jetscreamerthegladiator: your module may already be loaded though... and use mythtv i hear is one way04:43
yggdrasil__heres my pastebing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9050 | im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand.04:43
jetscreamer!info myth-tv04:43
ConfidentiaLHow do I know what X-Windows version I have???04:43
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thegladiatoryep04:43
SamStonedoes anybody know a good rss reader program for gnome, like akregator in kde?04:43
jetscreamer!find mythtv04:43
Kyralliferea?04:43
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'mythtv' (7 shown): mythtv ;; mythtv-backend ;; mythtv-common ;; mythtv-database ;; mythtv-debug ;; mythtv-doc ;; mythtv-frontend.04:43
thegladiatorthanks04:43
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bur[n] erSamStone: liferea!!!!  kicks akregators ass04:44
cyberglyph!permissoins04:44
ubotucyberglyph: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:44
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cyberglyph!permission04:44
SamStoneOK Thank you. I give it a try04:44
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cyberglyph04:44
_jasonubotu: tell cyberglyph about permissions04:44
nbjaymehello anybody here tried sox or rec to capture sound?04:44
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cyberglyph!contents04:44
bur[n] erSamStone: it has an "unread" virtual folder that is amazing... i haven't found any other apps (windows included) that do this04:44
LoPMXhello, has anyone managed to run aixgl on ubuntu?04:45
jetscreamerConfidentiaL: maybe dpkg -l xserver-xorg04:45
bur[n] erLoPMX: i was looking for the same thin04:45
LoPMXand does Xgl run with GMA 900?04:45
cyberglyphpermissions isnt working.04:45
jetscreamerman mount search fmask & dmask for vfat or ntfs perms04:45
yggdrasil__heres my pastebing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9050 | im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand.04:45
cyberglyphim trying to access ntfs drives to copy files over.04:45
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_jasonubotu: tell cyberglyph about ntfs04:45
LjLbur[n] er: i haven't found anything better than opera yet for mail, with the bayesian-virtual-folders... never used them for newsgroups though, but i suppose they could be useful there as well04:45
yggdrasil__cyberglyph mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs drive04:45
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_jasoncyberglyph: there is a table that explains permissions on that last link ubotu sent you04:46
SeveasHi folks, little spamming: For all dapper lovers: /join #ubuntu+1 and make some room in here for support for the current stable versions04:46
cyberglyphi know the table, just dont konw how to get to it.. thx for help. <reserching>04:46
yggdrasil__hmmm dappers coming out soon ehh...04:46
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Seveasyggdrasil__, april 2004:47
yggdrasil__cool04:47
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thegladiator!modconf04:47
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator04:47
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ompaulmore spam !dapper04:47
ompaul!dapper04:47
ubotu[dapper]  the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it04:47
LjLSeveas: lately it appears like there are more people using dapper than people using breezy... at least that's the impression one gets =)04:47
jetscreamer/dev/hde4       /mnt/hde4     ntfs    noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,fmask=0333,dmask-0222,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 004:47
thegladiatoryggdrasil,  jetscreamer Modconf is for TV only ? the modules ?04:47
tombshi all04:48
jetscreamerthegladiator: modconf is to LOAD MODULES04:48
cyberglyphi cant mount drives, i need root access.  hence permissions.04:48
yggdrasil__thegladiator im having to basicly recompile my kernel04:48
jetscreamer!info modconf04:48
ubotumodconf: (Device Driver Configuration), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 0.2.49 (breezy), Packaged size: 1030 kB, Installed size: 3720 kB04:48
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SeveasLjL, the xgl effect04:48
wastrelthat's because the ones with dapper all have broken systems, while breezy is working pretty well for most04:48
LjLcyberglyph: and what's the problem with that?04:48
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thegladiatoryggdrasil, it doesnt work other wise?04:48
_keroppi_Can anyone get xgl working on breezy?04:48
thegladiatorjetscreamer, modules for ?04:48
cyberglyphi dont have any scripts and i havnt been on a nix system for very long time.04:48
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LjLSeveas: oh, is it that? is that thing "stable" enough for people to actually use it=04:49
yggdrasil__| im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand. | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/905004:49
jetscreamerthegladiator: there are bt-modules that 'may' need loading... in the kernel04:49
cyberglyphshould i just try to use .htaccess?04:49
LjLwastrel: heh04:49
SeveasLjL, stable for some playing04:49
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yggdrasil__well mine locks up on the hotplug part of boot with the card in04:49
SeveasI wouldn;t use it in a production env04:49
yggdrasil__so im not sure man04:49
yggdrasil__that card should have plenty of documentation04:49
thegladiatorjetscreamer, and that requiers some work ? loading to the kernel etc ?04:49
yggdrasil__you have to compile the kernel04:49
thegladiatori see04:49
jetscreamerthegladiator: not much, if you use modconf04:50
thegladiatorso its pretty diffiult for a newbie04:50
thegladiatorI see04:50
jetscreamerno04:50
jetscreamerit's easy to load a module04:50
LjLSeveas: well, i confess i would rather try it too, even though i've always been a big supporter of extremely sober UIs... but you know =) anyway, it's not a matter of breezy or dapper for me, as i simply don't have a graphics accelerator ;)04:50
yggdrasil__thegladiator you should join #mythtv ? they might be able to help you more ?04:50
blueyedHi. Since some days when grub appears there are just "weird colored blocks" on the screen instead of the menu. After pressing enter for the default entry the scrolling through text appears broken. It gets fixed when usplash comes up.04:50
appAny ideas why Breezy live cd arpwatch (-d) does only  sees broadcast arp replies? Like it would not run in promisc mode, but my syslog says my interface goes into promisc mode...04:50
SeveasLjL, hehehe04:50
renloreany one know of any satellite map software?04:50
thegladiatoryep thank you04:50
ideafixtheplagiator ?04:51
blueyedCould this be related to my TFT? Though I'm sure it worked at the beginning. (using Dapper btw)04:51
thegladiatoryggdrasil, but wud they know about the drivers ? mayb yes ?04:51
yggdrasil__yea i would go ask04:51
LjLrenlore: google *sort of* works under Wine04:51
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weareallonestcyberglyph: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions#head-7a9975eee34c934ebe56e374ce2dc22e92c9b56a04:51
thegladiatoryep04:51
yggdrasil__its more specific than here ...04:51
wastrelblueyed:04:51
LjLrender: otherwise, there is a linux version of NASA worldwind, though it's quite different from the standard Windows version, and i haven't tried it04:51
jetscreamerwtf is kconfig04:51
wastreler,  blueyed have you tried reintsalling grub?04:51
LjLrenlore: that was for you04:51
SamStonewow Liferea really rules04:51
wastrel*reinstalling.   can't type today.04:52
ideafixwhat liferea?04:52
chromebuntudammit WoW is still down04:52
renlorenod :)04:52
jetscreamerthat's 'probably' your problem04:52
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wastrelisn't WoW down every tuesday04:52
chromebuntudm: you sort your machine out?04:52
blueyedwastrel: I've just seen that there's an update for it anyway. I'll try it.04:52
yggdrasil__| im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand. | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/905004:52
ideafixim goint to play WOW04:52
jetscreameri just did04:52
mesaboogie1SamStone: sexy aye?04:52
SamStonemesaboogie1: yes04:53
chromebuntuwastrel: yup, its down evry tuesday but im impatient :)04:53
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LjLrenlore: what about just using google maps? not as fancy as those 3D programs, but i guess it's currently the only choice that actually has a chance of working decently04:53
kdean06LinuxJones, Alright, rebooted and did the lspci. "3Com Corp. 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]  (rev 30)'04:53
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mesaboogie1SamStone:  have you tried any others?04:53
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SamStonemesaboogie1: I just tried akregator,cause I always used KDE till yesterday.04:54
cherylhi does ne one know how to get tcl-dev & tk-dev packages? so i can install amsn??04:54
LjLargh, a gnome convertee04:54
yggdrasil__now i me getting this ... ring a bell? make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop.04:54
DigitalDualitycheryl.. have you tried using syaptic?04:55
cherylsyaptic??04:55
LjLcheryl: "sudo aptitude instal tk8.4-dev"04:55
DigitalDualitysynaptic04:55
DigitalDualitysorry04:55
kdean06!synaptic04:55
ubotusomebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:55
yggdrasil__ake: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop. can somone help ?04:55
LjLcheryl: anyway, why do you need to compile amsn from source?04:55
cherylDigitalDuality: What is Synaptic?...04:56
kdean06cheryl, It's the GUI package management utility. It helps you find programs and installs the needed files for you, all in a pretty little menu thingy. (Love how technical that got at the end)04:56
LjL!tell cheryl about synaptic04:56
DigitalDualitySynaptic is the application that allows you to access the repositories for applications to install on Ubuntu04:56
cherylLjL: I dunno t wouldnt let me install....it said for me to get those to installed prior to runnin it04:57
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LjLcheryl: and you should *never* install any programs without using synaptic or aptitude or something that uses the APT system... unless you're *absolutely* sure there's no other way04:57
IdleOnekdean06:  you have a trigger for that response?04:57
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LjLcheryl: did you download the Ubuntu version, that is a file with ".deb" extension?04:57
yggdrasil__| im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand. | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/905004:57
kdean06cheryl, use Synaptic to install amsn, or from command line apt-get install amsn04:57
appWhy can't I nmap localhost on Breezy?04:57
kdean06IdleOne, Huh?04:57
wastrelapp:  do you have nmap installed?04:58
IdleOnekdean06:  nm'04:58
appyes04:58
thegladiatorfolkz i have a problem  , it all started when I installed theme for Firefox 1.5 , i cant start FF now , it opens that "talkback" thingy ...what can I do now ?04:58
cherylLjL: yes I got the one with the ".deb"04:58
thegladiatorcan anyone please hlpe me on that ?04:58
thegladiatorI cant start firefox now: :(04:58
wastrelapp:  what happens when you try ?04:58
appnmap gives a verbose error and unhelpful suggestions04:58
LjLcheryl: well, then i guess it just depends on the tcl/tk dev packages... anyway, "sudo aptitude install tk8.4-dev" should do the trick04:58
thegladiatori dont know how to remove those theme for FF04:58
LjLcheryl: do learn about the packaging system, though04:58
ohgoodthegladiator: mv ~/.mozilla/firefox/ ~/.mozilla/firefox_OLD and try again04:58
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appnmap Says try moprobe af_packet on Linux, try this and that on *BSD etc...04:59
wastrelapp:  ifconfig lo bring up a working loopback?04:59
appCan anyone nmap localhost on Breezy live cd?04:59
LjLyggdrasil__: i think you need libncurses5-dev04:59
yggdrasil__thatnks ill try it04:59
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cherylkdean06: I tried the command line and it didn't work...its says "couldn't find package amsn"04:59
appMy loopback is up, wastrel05:00
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wastrelapp:  /etc/hosts have localhost defined?05:00
mesaboogie1SamStone:  you're right it's niceLookin' ,have fun!05:00
appI can also not nmap my numeric IP, only other IPs05:00
SamStonethx05:00
LjLyggdrasil__: one tip -- install the "auto-apt" package. as you can see, your compile is complaining about a missing "curses.h" -- now, "auto-apt search curses.h" will let you know what package that's contained in05:00
yggdrasil__ljl that worked05:00
wastrelapp:  i dunno :] 05:00
SamStoneSo is there a clipboard program like klipper for gnome? (thats the only feature, that I'm missing now in Gnome)05:01
yggdrasil__thanks05:01
LjLyggdrasil__: (though you should first run "auto-apt update" to generate the database)05:01
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thegladiatorohgood, good thats better , anyway I can remove the themes folder alone maybe ?05:01
LjLcheryl: that's because amsn is in universe, and you don't have it enable. see the bot's link05:02
appwastrel, it look like I can't even ping myself. Hmmm....05:02
LjLcheryl: but anyway, you're quite safe installing amsn 0.9.5 from the site, as long as you have "tk8.4-dev" installed as i told you05:02
wastrelapp:  maybe the livecd is running a firewall?  i never used the livecd - know nothing about it05:02
ohgoodthegladiator: look in your ~/.mozilla/firefox/   for stuff, you can rename things, then start firefox and try again. btw, once you find the offending theme, you can get all your old settings back, by renameing it again. :)05:02
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thegladiatoryep thank you :.05:03
ohgoodnp :)05:03
marcIn the how to install samba section of the howto on the website for the unofficial Ubuntu howto it states to "insert system_username = "network username"" into /etc/samba/smbusers do I actually insert "network username" or an actual user name?05:03
LjLwastrel: ubuntu has no open ports by default -- isn't that perhaps simply the reason why nmap isn't finding anything?05:03
cherylThanks LjL & kdean06 :)05:03
nmmerc: an actual username05:03
nmhehe05:03
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LjLMarc: i think you can avoid inserting anything, as long as your Unix usernames are the same as the Samba (i.e. sharing) usernames05:04
marcnm: thanks05:04
appWell, the next machine in this class works ok, wastrel. This is somewhat indeterministic.05:04
corona1does anyone here use obsidian + ?05:04
marcLjL: how do I make all my users samba users?05:04
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appI've been running arpspoof and ettercap & such, maybe they screwed up something, wastrel05:05
LjLmarc: i think you simply need to give them a samba password, using "smbpasswd"05:05
marcLjL: Ill try that, thanks :)05:05
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appwastrel my words back. It does not work elsewhere05:05
LjLmarc: i know there's also a way to keep samba passwords synced with system passwords, but i've never tried that05:05
cradekthat is installed by the emc2 deb package, there is no setup required05:06
cradekoops, wrong channel05:06
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dreamil|labany answer to this problem while compiling firefox 1.5 on  5.10 amd64 http://rafb.net/paste/results/A9mrdO58.html05:07
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SirFireCan I ask a technical quest about hardware here?05:08
jimcooncatSirFire, why not?05:09
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SirFireOK :)05:09
micha01hallo? kann ich hier Supportfragen stellen?05:10
meisamIdleOnehi guys05:10
ConfidentiaLWhere should I save my ATI driver files before install?05:10
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meisamsorry i have installed eclipse package last month..and now i see iys not working properly... i wanna reinstall it again...05:10
chromebuntumicha01: specken ze deutsche NEIN05:10
chromebuntu:P05:11
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micha01oh, sorry05:11
micha01can I ask for some support in Xorg05:11
wastrelgotta run05:11
Seveasmicha01, just ask 05:11
SirFireIf I activate USB on my board, ubuntu 5.10 freezes. I saw that using another distro by a live CD this doesn't happen. What do you think if I run the live CD, watch the "lsmod" result and compare with the modules running on Ubuntu? Could I solve the prob this way?05:12
ConfidentiaL Where should I save my ATI driver files before install???05:12
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SeveasSirFire, it'll at least help diagnosing the problem so it's a good idea05:12
meisamSeveas hi friend...as far as u know me..im just asking u...sorry if u r not busy...would u help me and reinstall the eclipse05:12
Seveas!tell ConfidentiaL about ati05:12
micha01my Laptop has Ubuntu without GL, but if i load Kubuntu on a Live-DVD GL is supported. Whats my mistake?05:13
Seveasmeisam, apt-get install --reinstall eclipse05:13
micha01I copyed the xorg.conf, but no change05:13
Seveasmicha01, what kind of video card do you have?05:13
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micha01its correctly in both xorg.confs05:13
meisamSeveas i wanted remove the package but it did not work05:14
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meisamSeveas and also ur command didint work05:14
ConfidentiaLSeveras : Yeh, I know that, but I need to know where to save the files, as all the places I try I get "U dont have the right to write her" or something like that...05:14
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micha01somebody can help?05:16
StucKmanhi all. can't make this kubuntu configure properly the eth0. avahi-daemon gets in the middle. talks about eth0.2 and nonsense like that.05:16
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StucKmanmicha01: can you (re)state your problem?05:18
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appIt look like I can't ping myself, because I have no route to 127.*.*.* How did this happen? I just booted the Breezy live cd?05:18
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StucKmanapp: route -n says anything?05:18
mesaboogie1micha01:  and did you drop "out of x" as one of your steps?05:18
SirFireI thought that just having "EHCI" running as a module was enough to ensure USB would be properly identified on new Kernels...I am wrong?05:19
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micha01mesaboogie1: out of x?05:19
mesaboogie1runlevel 205:19
micha01?05:19
ConfidentiaL Where should I save my ATI driver files before install???05:20
mesaboogie1TEXT MODE >no gui<05:20
SeveasConfidentiaL, homedir will do05:20
appStucKman, yeah route -n confirms, there is only a route to my local net and default, no 127 anything05:20
StucKmanapp: interesting05:20
ConfidentiaLSeveas : Then terminal say it cant find it...05:20
micha01mesaboogie1: it works ALL fine, but without OpenGL05:20
StucKmanadd it like this: route add -net 127.0.0.0 lo05:20
appAnd I also get "route add -net 127.0.0.0\n05:20
appSIOCADDRT: Invalid argument05:20
app"05:20
dougskohey guys, are the repositories down right now?05:21
StucKmanapp: ah!05:21
micha01and with Kubuntu-Live it works fine05:21
StucKmanapp: that's it! the script is wrong05:21
IdleOneConfidentiaL:  after downloading you need to cd to the directory you saved it in05:21
StucKmanthat \n shouldn't be there05:21
appTell me more, Stuckman05:21
colmheh, just saw this http://gmailskins.mozdev.org/ - it's like an ubuntu human skin for gmail ;-)05:21
StucKmanapp: I'm not a bot :)05:21
appNO I just added it to show you command-response pair in one line....05:21
well_uses anyone fluxbox [on hoary] 05:22
ConfidentiaLIdleOne : How do I cd to home directory?05:22
StucKmanapp: take out the \n at the end05:22
nmheh05:22
nmthe human skin is probably one of the ugliest things i've ever witnessed05:22
dougskowell_, i do on breezy05:22
IdleOneConfidentiaL: cd ~/home05:22
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nmwhy anyone would encourage it, or develop it for gmail05:22
nmtsk tsk05:22
rad4ChristSR_Bronze, you around for a little mor assistance?05:22
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StucKmanyor irc client is doing funny things on what it copies to the clipboard05:23
SamStonehuman skin + xgl looks very good I think05:23
dentistanyone know the package name for the base gtk? searching for it brings up hundreds :(05:23
StucKmandentist: libgtk-something?05:23
well_my notebook needs 2 minutes for booting. that cant be normal.. so has anyone the same problem?? dougsko ?05:23
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_keroppi_How do I get ubuntu to create a /dev/fb0 framebuffer device? I've already pulled vesafb out of the blacklist, and put it in /etc/modules.conf, and it is being loaded on boot.05:23
colmnm, no accounting for taste, I like it!05:23
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dougskowell_, i dont know, my computer takes a minute or so to boot up05:24
SamStonemy take 35 to start gdm05:24
TomaszDAny Ubuntu PPC users around? Can any of you do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133702 for me?05:24
IdleOneSamStone:  35 minutes?05:24
SamStonenoo05:24
rad4ChristOr anyone able to assist me getting Samba up and going? I'm following this Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28sharing%29%7C%28folders%2905:24
SamStone35sek05:25
SamStonesec05:25
IdleOnelol05:25
IdleOneoh ok05:25
GTXGuys is there anyway to close xserver05:25
GTXwhen Im not using it05:25
GTXbut keep the programs which are running on05:25
GTXie vmware05:25
appStuckman, looks like running dhclient (manually) break my routing table, local pings stop after that (I rebooted a new live Breezy)05:25
well_ive installed ubuntu(with gnoome) then kde and at least fluxbox.. is there a way to see what the system does after logging in with gdm??05:25
dougskofor some reason in synaptic, when i click on repositories, it just downloads from them and doesnt show me the list of servers. anyone know why that might be happening?05:25
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IdleOnedougsko:  I dont think it does05:26
IdleOneif you want to see the list use terminal05:26
LjLGTX: no05:26
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StucKmanapp: ah, I have probs w/ dhcp too05:26
StucKmanbut of another nature05:26
LjLGTX: why do you need to close it anyway?05:26
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LjLwell_: what do you mean "see what the system does"?05:27
well_has anyone experience with ubuntu+fluxbox=slow boot up??05:27
GTXLjL because all its running is virtual servers.05:27
IdleOnewell_:  I installed fluxbox lastnight and all I got was a black screen :/05:28
LjLGTX: i don't know about vmware, but qemu can be run in console mode without any graphics at all05:28
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IdleOnewell try xfce405:28
mesaboogie1ouch"!!!05:28
IdleOnewell_:05:28
LjLGTX: or, you could use a "virtual" x server, like the VNC server... X will still be open, but it won't get to your graphics card. but i guess the reason you really want to do this is to save memory?05:28
well_i what to see what linux does when it starts fluxbox...05:28
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mesaboogie1it flys usually05:29
_keroppi_Does anyone in here have a framebuffer device in their dev directory? (/dev/fb[0-31]  ?)05:29
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LjLwell_: CTRL+ALT+Fx will switch to virtual terminals. i think terminal 8 is where the logs go05:29
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LjL_keroppi_: yes05:29
sam__how do I change permissions on my windows partitions so I can read/write05:29
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well_thx LjL05:29
IdleOnesam__:  ntfs?05:29
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sam__yeah05:29
dentistmmmm i've got libgtk installed05:29
LjLsam__: you don't write, if it's an NTFS partition05:29
IdleOnesam__:  you cant write to ntfs only read05:29
dentistbut gtk-config is still a no go05:29
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LjL!tell sam__ about ntfs05:30
sam__with kubuntu I could write to ntfs05:30
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SamStoneno05:30
LjLdentist: gtk-config is in libgtk1.2-dev05:30
well_IdleOne, ive tried xfce for a few time, and its nice bbut not fluxlike, istnit?05:30
[DFC] EggManHello, I have an install issue, I installed Ubuntu just fine but for the second part of the install (the part without the CD in the drive) it just hangs on 0%05:30
LjLsam__: no, not really05:30
StucKmansam__: no, you can't05:30
sam__i totally did05:31
_keroppi_LjL: Did you do anything to get that working, or did it just work when you installed ubuntu?05:31
StucKmanthe kernel has no support for that05:31
LjLsam__: then it's not ntfs05:31
dentistah ha05:31
sam__oh yeah it's fat3205:31
LjLsam__: you're probably using FAT3205:31
StucKmanexcept by using very experimental code05:31
SamStonerofl05:31
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sam__that's my other win2k machine I forgot05:31
[DFC] EggManXD05:31
sam__so no writing to ntfs at all05:31
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LjL_keroppi_: it just worked, but then i guess my configuration is sort of unusual -- my graphics card has no driver, so ubuntu is using it as vesa (possibly through the framebuffer)05:32
LjLsam__: not currently, and not in the near future05:32
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[DFC] EggManHello, I have an install issue, I installed Ubuntu just fine but for the second part of the install (the part without the CD in the drive) it just hangs on 0%, could this be realted to failing to copy al the pakages from CD ?05:32
alien9391sam__ k3b05:32
_keroppi_LjL: Ubuntu blacklists all fb modules by default though05:32
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bSONhi05:32
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SonicYoothcan anyone tell me how to get rid of the brown screen that loads behind the splash screen? id like to change to color that matches the rest of my theme05:32
LjLsam__: i think there *is* some write support (that has to be enabled in weird ways), but it just allows overwriting files without changing their length. practically useless05:32
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bSONare there other ubuntu mirrors for flight cd 4?05:33
alien9391k3b can help with ntfs as far as i heard05:33
LjL_keroppi_: i don't know if my framebuffer actually works, but the /dev/fb0 is there05:33
sam__what do I need to allow mp3 playback?05:33
bSONthe main one is pretty overloaded05:33
Dr_Willis!mp305:33
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:33
[DFC] EggMan!install05:33
ubotu[install]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation05:33
_keroppi_LjL: k thanks05:33
cradekbSON: use bittorrent05:33
LjL_keroppi_: anyway, lsmod tells me there *are* a few framebuffer-related modules running05:33
GTXGuy's Im using an eggdrop on ubuntu server, and it says it boots up etc, but it doesnt connect however when I add -n to see what its doing it does! any ideas?05:34
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LjL_keroppi_: vesafb, vga16fb and fbcon05:34
sam__what package do i need to be able to play mp3s?05:34
bSONcradek: i only get 60kb/s with bittorrent05:34
cradekbSON: behind nat?05:34
IdleOneGTX:  I believe you need to open ports on router 113 i think it is05:34
cradek!mp305:34
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:34
bSONcradek: yeah...05:34
LjLsam__: it's explained quite clearly in the link people gave youy05:35
cradekbSON: ask google how to fix bittorrent05:35
GnumannenHow do I remove GRUB?05:35
cradekbSON: you have to allow incoming connections05:35
[DFC] EggManhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bittorrent+port+forwarding&spell=105:35
Gnumannen!grub05:35
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:35
well_!grub05:35
bSONi know, but i don't own the router, my father does (I'm 15)...05:35
GTXlol IdleOne, I know about networking, it works when -n is added to the command!05:35
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GTXIdleOne, but then it debugs crap05:36
LjLGnumannen: why *would* you remove grub anyway? doesn't sound like a good idea05:36
cradekbSON: then ask him for help I guess?05:36
dentistanyone knw what.. "imlib-config" "gdk-pixbuf=config" "gnome-config" are part of?05:36
IdleOneGTX:  fiest starup of the bot?05:36
IdleOnefirst*05:36
GnumannenLjL, I just have one OS, and I have a SATA which doesnt wwork with grub05:36
GnumannenSo I can't boot because of grub05:36
LjLdentist: yes, i do - but i have better advice05:37
LjLdentist: install the "auto-apt" package, run "auto-apt update", and then "auto-apt search imlib-config" (and same for the others)05:37
Seveas!seen breezy05:37
ubotubreezy <n=richie@81-179-97-225.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 6d 16h 57m 45s ago, saying: 'and install it if it isnt'.05:37
bSONcradek: i think he won't like the idea of the router allowing incoming connections... but anyway, thanks :)05:37
cradekbSON: welcome05:37
dentistsorry i'll tell you what im doing.. installing a perl module from cpan and its just saying error cant find x file05:38
bSONcradek: i'm uploading 1.3kb/s05:38
StucKmanGnumannen: make the bios see you sata drive and then grub will see it too05:38
mesaboogie1!cinelera05:38
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mesaboogie105:38
LjLGnumannen: i see... well, try "apt-cache show mbr", that should probably overwrite your grub, but i don't know what the consequences of removing grub would really be05:38
GnumannenStucKman, my BIOS dont have any problem seeing it05:38
cradekbSON: I'm no bt expert, but I'm sure you need that incoming port to get reasonable dl speeds.05:38
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mesaboogie1loL05:38
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GnumannenLjL, from the Ubuntu CD then?05:39
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dentistdown to these two now "gdk-pixbuf=config" "gnome-config"05:39
StucKmanGnumannen: then grub should see it...05:39
LjLGnumannen: you mean booting from there?05:39
mesaboogie1] hehe05:39
mesaboogie1!cinelerra05:39
ubotuI guess cinelerra is http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html, or http://heroinewarrior.com/05:39
GnumannenLjL, yeah...? Because I can't boot because of grub05:39
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rad4ChristI need some assistance with Samba on Ubuntu, could someone please help me?05:39
colmfreenx question: with freenx I get the audio and video capabilities of the host.  Is it possible to also allow access to the CD writer on the host?05:39
sam__gstreamer packages are already installed05:39
LjLdentist: auto-apt will find gnome-config. on the other hand, "gtk-pixbuf=config" doesn't quite look like a *file*05:40
sam__and still no mp3 playback05:40
LjLdentist: it looks like a configuration option05:40
GTXIdleOne, Hounistly Im not stupi :/05:40
IdleOneGTX:  did I say you were?05:40
LjLGnumannen: yeah, well, you can install software using the live cd, so i guess that should work in theory05:40
GnumannenOkey, I try, thank you05:40
LjLGnumannen: you install "mbr", and then you run it and tell it to overwrite your boot HDD's boot record05:41
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GTXIdleOne,  no but :p05:41
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lisiCan anyone here help me with bittornado?05:41
LjLGnumannen: but, really, i don't think linux with boot without a bootloader like LILO or Grub doing the first level bootstrap05:41
ejofeeis there any gnu/linux app which can help me cut 5 minutes out of an .avi file and make the 5 min segments an .avi file? what about 10 minutes?05:41
IdleOneGTX:  was trying to help but nm Im not in the mood anymore05:41
well_has anyone of you already installed dapper?? is it vers unstable???05:41
well_very05:41
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Zmanuhi05:42
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mesaboogie1ejofee: !cinelerra05:42
ejofeemesaboogie1: thanks you05:42
colmwell_, very stable here05:42
Dr_Williswell_,  i got it - it works.. theres all sorts of little -issues..  i say wait a few more mo.05:42
LjLejofee: perhaps "apt-cache show avifile-utils"05:42
well_ok05:42
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Dr_Willisunless you know your way around linux :P and want to have 'fun'05:42
mesaboogie1!cinelerra05:42
ubotucinelerra is, like, http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html, or http://heroinewarrior.com/05:42
rad4ChristWell, can anyone point me to another channel where someone can help with with an Ubuntu/Samba issue?05:42
lisiI'm using breezy, and love it so far, but have a few issues I can't figure out05:43
ZmanuI install eric3 that is a python IDE under ubuntu, but it need qt, and I don't know why but I have big fonts, and I don't know what I must install05:43
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ejofeeLjL: thanks05:43
Dr_Willisrad4Christ,  #linux,#linuxhelp, or reading the samba books. :P05:43
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Dr_Willis!samba05:43
ubotuI guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:43
mesaboogie1#samba?05:43
rad4ChristTried, Mesa, no one responds there.05:43
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rad4Christubotu, tried the first, my PC doesn't do what the wikis tates should happen.05:44
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, rad4Christ05:44
ejofee(the last question, "what about 10 minutes?", was meant to be funny and attract attention) :)05:44
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lisidoes anyone here use bittornado?05:44
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Dr_Willisrad4Christ,  elaborate on the problem. the forums are a good place to read up on also.05:44
jimcooncatrad4Christ, ubutu is a bot05:44
dentistok im down to just gnome-config - what package is that in?05:44
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StucKmanlisi: I used to...05:45
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SonicYoothhey guys - i just downloaded a program (last.fm player) and I'm able to run it directly out of the tar file. Where should this application be moved to? (as in whats the typical place people store their progs?)05:45
lisiwell, I downloaded my  first file with it but instead of an avi file sitting on my hard drive, which I expected, I had a directory with the name of the file, and inside there were a bunch of rar files that I could not open05:46
lisihow do I view the file?05:46
StucKmanSonicYooth: /usr/local/bin, ~/bin or ~/locl/bin. those last two, you gotta setup the PATH envvar properly.05:47
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StucKman!rar05:47
uboturar is, like, totally, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression05:47
mesaboogie1!video tutorial05:47
ubotumesaboogie1: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:47
StucKmanlisi: see what ubotu said05:47
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rad4ChristDr_Willis, no WIndows PC's can ping this box, and I need assistance sharing folders, but each folder is only accessible by a specific windows username.05:47
[FR33_B33R] !skype05:47
ubotuskype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/05:47
mesaboogie1k thanx ubotu05:47
GTXhow do I send a dir, i normaly use "send" in ftp to send a singlefile, what command do I use to send a folder "This is for command line ftp"05:47
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lisihmm, is that normal though that it's like 24 separate files instead of one avi file?05:47
mesaboogie1has anyone seen any video tutorials?????05:48
lisiis this a bittornado thing or the specific file I downloaded?05:48
rad4ChristI'm tempted to just give up and put Windows 2003 on here.05:48
SeveasGTX, mkdir foo; cd foo; lcd foo; mput *05:48
Seveas(in the ftp client)05:48
miveczwhat is  the  diference of  ubuntu  breeze and ubuntu hoary?05:48
StucKmanlisi: basiccaly, arar is a compressing utility, like zip. you must uncompress them and you'll get teh .avi you want05:48
StucKmanlisi: no, that's what the .torrent has05:48
mesaboogie1rad4Christ:  can't you fit both?05:48
LjLmivecz: hoary was the older version, and it's obsolete05:48
lisihmm, ok, thanks05:48
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StucKmanlisi: np05:48
LjLmivecz: breezy is current, and dapper will be the next version (due on 20 april)05:48
Dr_Willisrad4Christ,  if the box's cant even PING it. then you got some firewalling or iptables rules blocking it.05:48
SonicYoothStucKman: Thanks :)05:48
cradekis that the one I saw last night?05:49
SeveasLjL, it's still supported, so not obsolete05:49
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lisiStuckman: what's what the .torrent has?05:49
StucKmanSonicYooth: np05:49
Dr_Willisrad4Christ,  and the way the default homes are set up - each user can only access their own home dir.05:49
A-L-P-H-A#ubuntu+105:49
rad4ChristTHanks Dr_Willis, I'll work on getting the network to SEE the box, then I'll try back.05:49
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miveczany  script  auto to  install  desktop manager  like  kde  xfce ?05:49
LjLSeveas: well i guess for someone who doesn't know the difference between the two, considering hoary obsolete and just installing breezy will do no harm ;)05:49
SeveasLjL, ack05:49
Dr_Willisrad4Christ,  a read of that 'using samba' book (online) is a good way tog et started in the fun details of samba.05:49
SonicYoothStucKman: Sorry, first day with Ubuntu.. so it says I don't have permission. This means I need to be logged in as "root" correct? :-/05:49
LjL!tell mivecz about apt-get05:49
Exxpertanyone have time to help me with an problem?,, just installed ubuntu, on first startup the monitor goes "no supported mode"... -oh crap i think.. then i try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  and take away all settings that the monitor not supports,, choosed medium and carried on,, now the monitor works on the startup but when  x is loaded the screen wents blank :-/..Dear ubuntupeople...05:50
Exxpert...help meee..*desperate*05:50
SonicYoothStucKman: (permission to write to that dir that is)05:50
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thegladiatorExxpert, sudo05:50
miveczi want  to  get  E1705:50
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LjLmivecz: "sudo apt-cache search <keywords>" will let you look for programs, "sudo apt-cache show <packagename>" will show the info about a program, and "sudo aptitude install <packagename>" will install it05:50
thegladiatoroh sorry mistell05:50
LjLmivecz: for kde, for example, you need to install kubuntu-desktop05:50
StucKmanlisi: hmm, the .torrenyt file has info of files that it ``contains''. sometimes the original creator of the .torrent file precompresses the contents in a fashion of what you got. I don' t get why they do that.05:50
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GTXSeveas, it has a folder in a folder thoe05:50
LjLmivecz: for xfce, i don't know really, but i suppose it will be called xfce or xfce4. try "apt-cache search xfce"05:50
miveczFOr enlighment?05:51
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thegladiatorSonicYooth, u need to be root05:51
Exxpertthegladiator: Cant see anythig on screen,, black and dead..:-/05:51
thegladiator!zdesktop05:51
LjLmivecz: i don't know. perhaps try "apt-cache search enlightment"05:51
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator05:51
thegladiator!xdesktop05:51
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator05:51
SeveasGTX, then read the ftp manpage ;)05:51
SonicYooththegladiator: Is that something I can do from command prompt or do i need to log out and back in again?05:51
thegladiatorthere is xdesktop meta pakacge for sfce I guess05:51
StucKmanSonicYooth: yes, you nees root perms for storing them in /usr/local/bin. is not the case in the last two paths I mentioned, but you still would need to setup PATH envvar properly if you use them05:51
Exxpert!xdesktop05:51
naliothmivecz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment05:51
miveczubuntu breeze have  cd  to fix  some bugs?05:51
lisiStuckmanL: thanks, I'm going to download a different one and hope it works better05:51
thegladiatorSonicYooth, u can use sudo command or su --05:51
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nalioththegladiator: please don't do that05:52
LjLExxpert, thegladiator: that's xubuntu-desktop05:52
StucKmanmivecz: you mean installer bugs?05:52
SonicYooththegladiator: gotcha. thanks!05:52
thegladiatorSonicYooth, sudo xxx with ask for pwd...05:52
miveczyes05:52
thegladiatornalioth, sorry which one ?05:52
jimcooncatthegladiator, do you mean xubuntu-desktop?05:52
StucKmanmivecz: I think not05:52
Exxpertthanks..05:52
nalioththegladiator: there is no "su" for root in *buntu05:52
SonicYoothStucKman: thanks also :)05:52
thegladiatoryeah xubuntu-desktop top sorry05:52
thegladiatoroh sorry05:52
miveczand it works...but no breezy packaged build yet... what is mean that?05:52
thegladiatorthough swithch user mode is also supported as in other OS05:52
dentistLjL, that worked nicely thx05:52
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LjLmivecz: bugfixes have their specific repository. use "sudo apt-get update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" regularly to get the latest fixes05:53
Exxpertis there a way to start ubuntu in consolemode?05:53
nalioththegladiator: this is not "other OS", it runs a bit differently05:53
naliothubotu: tell Exxpert about bum05:53
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jimcooncathow do I turn off ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt--?05:53
thegladiatorcorrect05:53
LjLmivecz: also, you should probably enable the universe and multiverse repositories, to go from about 4000 installable programs to about 17000. the bot will tell you how05:53
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miveczok05:54
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stepheltonwhere can i find thermal info on my cpu?05:54
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LjLmivecz: i think Ubuntu's Gnome also has an automatic updater that will save you the trouble of the above-mentioned "dist-upgrade" thing. i don't use gnome, so i don't know how that works05:54
LjLstephelton: install "lm-sensors"05:55
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LjLstephelton: then, use apt-cache to search for "sensors" if you want a GUI program, there are a few05:55
Exxpertnalioth: get the point,, but i cant see anything,, blank screen.. monitors blank.. need to start in consolemode to change my x-server settings..:-(05:55
[FR33_B33R] hi05:55
[FR33_B33R] am having trouble with skype05:55
[FR33_B33R] could nayone help?05:55
Exxpertnalioth: And yeees im a n00b;-)05:56
LjL!skype05:56
uboturumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/05:56
ConfidentiaLI have a widescreen on my laptop, but when I go on the change resolution "thing" I only get resolutions for 4x3 monitors(kinda stretched now). Any1 know how I can change this?05:56
[FR33_B33R] that didnt help too much05:56
naliothExxpert:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start will do you alright05:56
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naliothubotu: tell [FR33_B33R]  about fixres05:56
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[FR33_B33R] cool05:56
[FR33_B33R] let me try that05:56
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LjLnalioth: didn't you mean confidentiaL?05:57
elzappubotu: tell me about fixres05:57
[FR33_B33R] huh?05:57
[FR33_B33R] wtf05:57
[FR33_B33R] hahhahha05:57
thegladiatorhow to reinstall epiphamy from the command line ?05:57
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dentistDOooooh05:57
LjLthegladiator: sudo aptitude install epuphany05:57
nalioththegladiator: sudo apt-get install --reinstall epiphany-browser05:57
thegladiatorthank you05:57
well_!fixres05:58
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:58
dentist"No rule to make target 'build/perl-gtk-ref.pod' needed by 'manifypods' stop05:58
ConfidentiaL!fixres05:58
Exxpertnalioth: Okai,, that IS possible,, but how to get somewhere to type it in?,, I want to the commandline,, monitor hates my resolution05:58
LjLdentist: ?05:58
dentistanyone seent hat while doing a 'cpan install gtk'05:58
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LjLdentist: let me try05:59
naliothExxpert: hit ctrl-alt-f2 for a console, then ctrl-alt-f7 to come back to a gui05:59
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Exxpertnalioth: *trying*05:59
DjDarkmanhy deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ,is this repository is down?05:59
alien9391or alt+f705:59
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LjLdentist: (anyway, i don't know much about perl, but it appears that GTK for perl is in the repositories)06:00
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dentistlibgtk2-perl?06:00
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LjLDjDarkman: the site itself is up06:01
LjLdentist: yep06:01
dentistyeah i am just trying that now06:01
Exxpertnalioth: doesent work..:-C  is there not a way to start directly into commandmode?06:01
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DjDarkmanhmmm LjL then why i get this:06:01
DjDarkmanW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ro.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:01
LjLExxpert: what's the problem, you have a blank screen?06:01
LjLDjDarkman: i said the *site* is up, but perhaps the ubuntu mirror is currently under manteinance or something...06:02
naliothExxpert: yes, read the bots msg re BUM06:02
DjDarkmanLjL: are there other mirrors?06:02
StucKmanDjDarkman: lots, like, deb archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu etc etc06:03
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LjLDjDarkman: of course, just change "ro." into the acronym for another country06:03
LjLDjDarkman: "it." was working up to some minutes ago06:03
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DjDarkmanok LjL 10x 4 the help06:03
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SilivrenionI need a windows utility to make an ubuntu boot floppy?06:04
ExxpertLjL: The problem is that i installed ubuntu and it looks good,, the little "ubuntu"logo comes up and things starts to load up.. but then when its gonna start x the monitor flicks a pair of times and then ends up black.. sorry to bother you guys..:-C06:04
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turtlesoupi finally got the ubuntu network install working from this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28installation%29         but when configuring my apt get sources, i selected the wrong one, is there a way to change the source?06:04
StucKmanSilivrenion: there's rawrite, but, can't you use the boot cd's?06:04
Silivrenionno, the controller's damaged06:05
naliothubotu: tell Exxpert abotu fixres06:05
naliothubotu: tell Exxpert about fixres06:05
Silivrenionit boots only knoppix-std for some odd reason06:05
LjLExxpert: well, i would tell you to pass "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel when you boot, to go to single-user text mode... but i'm not sure how that behaves with Ubuntu's lack of a root password06:05
Silivrenionall others it gives an error06:05
stepheltonLjL: i have no x installed. i was hoping there was something in /proc i coult cat06:05
Silivrenioni have a usb floppy drive i want to use to try to boot the machine06:05
StucKmanSilivrenion: then look for rawrite or rawrite206:05
Silivrenionok06:06
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StucKmanSilivrenion: do you have the floppy images?06:06
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GTXGuy's Im using an eggdrop on ubuntu server, and it says it boots up etc, but it doesnt connect however when I add -n to see what its doing it does! any ideas?06:06
SilivrenionStucKman :: no06:06
Exxpertisent there a way to choose textlogin in grub or something??06:06
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bushito!mp306:07
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:07
naliothExxpert: BUM will allow you any login options you like06:07
Seveas!find akode06:07
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'akode' (2 shown): akode ;; akode-mpeg.06:07
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Seveas!info akode-mpeg06:07
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ubotuakode-mpeg: (akode mpeg plugin), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 92 kB06:07
StucKmanSilivrenion: I *guess* they are in the cd's06:07
Exxpertnalioth: but HOW to install bum without seeing something??06:07
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turtlesoupis there a way to change my apt get source during setup?06:08
Exxpertnalioth: my screen is blank!06:08
stepheltonis there anything in /proc i can cat to see my cpu / northbridge temp? preferably something supplied with the default kernel06:08
naliothExxpert: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the vesa driver06:08
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StucKmanExxpert: try adding ``single'' to the kernel params in grub06:08
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StucKmanstephelton: look fot acpi06:09
turtlesoupi am using network setup and it is stalled at the installing packages screen, how can i fix?06:09
stepheltonStucKman: i couldn't find anything under acpi...06:09
LjLstephelton: then just install lm-sensors06:09
LjLstephelton: there is also sensord if you want something that periodically monitors and logs06:09
LjLExxpert: hm, i think there's recovery mode or something in the grub menu? not sure06:09
LjLExxpert: but init=/bin/sh *is* the standard way to go into "recovery mode", in other distributions06:09
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StucKmanstephelton: then you'll need the sensors06:09
StucKmansorry, goota go06:09
stepheltonStucKman: thats what i was afraid of. thx06:10
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ExxpertLjL: there is a recoverymode,, ends up with the same thing..06:11
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LjL`stephelton: i really think you will need lm-sensors. what's the big deal with installing it anyway? it's a small and unobtrusive package06:12
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GTXGuy's Im using an eggdrop on ubuntu server, and it says it boots up etc, but it doesnt connect however when I add -n to see what its doing it does! any ideas?06:12
ConfidentiaLOk, I still cant get the settings for the monitor to be widescreen, I tried to run the auto detect wizard thing over and over again, with different settings each time. Any1 who knows how to fix it?06:13
Drac[Server] In every Ubuntu installation I've tried so far, Flash in Firefox, regardless of the browser version, has had problems with the text fields. Text is invisible! It is inputted, but I can't read it. Has anyone else had this problem?06:13
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LjLDrac[Server] : don't know about that specific problem, but i had definitely had problems with flash. when i absolutely need to view a site that uses flash, i use firefox under wine :)06:14
dooglusI just mananged to delete all my files in the most innovative of ways.06:14
iasowhat should I put in my sources.lst to upgrade to drapper. I want to test it out and do not care about the current install.06:14
thenukeDrac[Server] : is flash included in firefox for windows? I think not :o06:14
LjLdooglus: wow06:14
jetscreamerwell you could spell dapper right for one06:14
LjLthenuke: no, but the windows version at least appears to work ;)06:14
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Drac[Server] thenuke, I'm not looking for excuses and such. :P06:14
dooglusironically I was testing a problem with dapper which causes it not to unmount / when it shuts down, possibly resulting in lost files06:14
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dooglusand in the process, I deleted / :)06:15
thegladiatori have this problem  with ephipahny , some how the colors displayed is not correct06:15
LjLdooglus: well, it appears that you solved the problem of ubuntu possibly losing files06:15
iasojetscreamer:I just noticed that it does not have an r right now. I always thought it had an r06:15
thenukeDrac[Server] : umm..06:15
thegladiatorinfact in some of the page like gmail.com , the color is black and white for mails06:15
thenukeDrac[Server] : I was just answering your question :)06:15
dooglusLjL: for me, yes, but not for anyone else.06:15
thegladiatorcan someone advice a solution for this?06:16
LjLdooglus: why? just write down the procedure you used on a wiki, i'm sure most people will appreciate that :)06:16
Drac[Server] thenuke, No, you weren't. You were trying to defend Ubuntu. You answered my question with a question. :P06:16
iasoso what do I have to do?06:16
dooglusLjL: I've put it in a Malone report.06:16
thegladiatori have this problem  with ephipahny , some how the colors displayed is not correct06:16
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LjLdooglus: try not to put to many explicit "rm" there, though, people tend to be scared... things like `echo mr | rev` work best :)06:17
amphiDrac[Server] : I believe flash on linux is highly broken, you must whimper to macromedia06:17
thegladiatordoes anyone have the same problem ? with epiphany i.e the colors are not properly displayed , for e.g gmail.com ; the mails are just black and white as oposed to the pail blue color that you would expect with gmail06:18
amphithegladiator: 'pale' ;)06:18
Drac[Server] amphi, thanks for the input. My friend has the same flash I have from the same source on the same version of the same distro, and he can read his text. I'm trying to figure out what's different.06:18
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ConfidentiaLAny1 know how to get the widescreen settings right?06:18
thegladiatorsorry pale :)06:18
Drac[Server] I think he might have a font/text library that I don't, or something.06:18
mikexcan anyone help with network printing setup?06:18
dooglusLjL: it doesn't involve using 'rm' at all.  all you have to do is add one line to /etc/fstab06:18
dooglusLjL: can you work it out, given that much?06:18
amphiDrac[Server] : oh yeah? how curious - different video cards/drivers?06:18
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naliothubotu: tell ConfidentiaL about fixres06:19
jetscreamerdapper drake06:19
LjLdooglus: off hands, no. let me think about it though, no spoilers please ;)06:19
Drac[Server] Well, yes, amphi. I wouldn't think that would affect Flash, though. Flash isn't necessarily rendered through video acceleration.06:19
ExxpertLjL: ; i can edit the line in grub.. i now says: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-15-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=0x31b quiet splash06:19
ConfidentiaLI have used fixres several times, I already told u...06:19
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LjLExxpert: no need to06:19
dooglusLjL: ok, but you might need more information06:19
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LjLExxpert: just change it "on the fly" while booting06:20
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LjLExxpert: when the grub menu shows up, you can ask it to edit the command line06:20
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[FR33_B33R] !skype06:20
ubotuI guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/06:20
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amphiDrac[Server] : perhaps not - hard to say without the source ;) it might be worth trying the xorg vesa driver just to see if it makes any odds06:21
LjLdooglus: perhaps, feel free to give me as much information as you think is necessary to give me a chance :)06:21
ConfidentiaL!widescreen06:21
ubotuConfidentiaL: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:21
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naliothubotu: tell ConfidentiaL about xcfg06:21
ExxpertLjL: should i write: "init=/bin/sh"??06:21
amphiConfidentiaL: is this a laptop?06:21
StucKmanExxpert: or /bin/bash06:21
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naliothConfidentiaL: select the resolutions you want and "deselect" the ones you DON'T want06:21
ConfidentiaLyep06:22
ConfidentiaLamphi : yep06:22
StucKmanExxpert: take this in accouint: just after you get the bash prompt, the filesystem will be read-only06:22
ConfidentiaLok, i will try...06:22
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ConfidentiaLnalioth : ok, I will try...06:22
amphiConfidentiaL: you might find precise info for your model at linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org06:22
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dmCan anyone help me get my networking going after latest Dapper break ?06:23
dmstill not working lol06:23
djpsymonwow, this is the first time i've used linux and this chat thing06:23
LjLExxpert: you should add that do your standard command line. but if you see a recovery mode in the menu, try that first06:23
Drac[Server] I'd like to change and manipulate my console font. Can somebody tell me where and how to do this?06:23
dmHeres some things its saying, when i do sudo ifup eth1,  SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied06:24
soundraydjpsymon, there's a whole world out there...06:24
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dooglusLjL: ok, the files didn't disappear until I rebooted.06:24
howcomesWelcome to IRC where men are men, women are men, and kids are FBI Agents.06:24
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LjLExxpert: you could write down the complete command line from your grub.lst to remember it, but anyway i think grub will show it for you when you edit it06:24
dooglusLjL: the only thing I had to do to lose my files was (1) add a line to /etc/fstab and (2) reboot06:25
soundrayhowcomes, what about furry little creatures?06:25
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StucKmandm: may be you should the commands under sudo?06:25
dmstuckman i did06:25
amphiDrac[Server] : consolechars -f <some_font>06:25
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amphiDrac[Server] : font files are in /usr/share/consolefonts06:26
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StucKmandm: which commands were those?06:26
dmstuckman even as sudo -i i am still denied06:26
dmstuckman sudo ifup eth106:26
Drac[Server] amphi, they aren't if I use my own font. :P   Thanks. :)06:26
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StucKmandm: strange06:26
StucKmandm: can you sudo su - and try those commands under root?06:27
LjLdooglus: i can only think of mounting / in a "bad" place, like mounting it as swap (but the kernel won't really do that if it sees it's not really swap), or mounting it in a place that gets auto-cleaned-up at boot time (but i don't know of any)06:27
dmstuckman lemme tru06:27
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LjLdooglus: perhaps /tmp?06:27
dooglusLjL: that's it.06:27
LjLdooglus: oh :) cool06:27
dooglusLjL: sudo bash -c "echo / /tmp/root none bind 0 0 >> /etc/fstab"06:27
dmstuckman su dm ifdown eth1 returns failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstates permission denied06:28
LjLdooglus: you know what, i'd almost call that a bug06:28
dooglusLjL: /tmp gets cleaned up at boot *after* / gets bound into /tmp/root06:28
dooglusLjL: I was going to report it as such06:28
naliothStucKman: don't do that  please you'll break ubuntu06:28
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LjLdooglus: yeah, i think you should. the init scripts should triple-check before *ever* using the rm command imho06:28
ucenikhello06:28
dmnalioth whaT?06:29
naliothStucKman: sudo su is redundant and dangerous (it breaks some functionality)06:29
amphiDrac[Server] : ;)06:29
Drac[Server] amphi, I can't use True Type Font files?06:29
dooglusLjL: the cleanup script is careful to do a "find . -xdev" to make sure it doesn't clean up other filesystems06:29
naliothStucKman: in ubuntu we use sudo -i06:29
amphiDrac[Server] : not in console, AFAIK06:29
dooglusLjL: but unfortunately for me, / is one big filesystem06:29
LjLdooglus: perhaps ubuntu could put a "standard" file into /tmp (like, "/tmp/.temp-dir") to certify that it's indeed the /tmp directory, before removing files from it06:29
ucenikcan anybody explain me in sort of details how to set up my internet connection on ubuntu 5.0406:29
Drac[Server] amphi, drat. Any way I can convert one? :P06:29
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LjLdooglus: i guess it is for most people06:29
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dooglusLjL: /tmp really was /tmp, but it contained /tmp/root which was a bind back to /06:29
dmnalioth cna you help me get my borked networking going ?06:29
naliothdm: we'll need more info than that06:30
LjLdooglus: so i guess they'd need to change that "-xdev" option into something that checks for *mountpoint* boundaries, not just filesystem boundaries06:30
Drac[Server] amphi, I just found cfe. I'll give that a try.06:30
StucKmannalioth: ack06:30
ucenikanybody?06:31
LjLdooglus: don't see such an option in "find", but maybe the script could simply run "mount" and check that nothing is mounted under /tmp06:31
dooglusLjL: luckily /bin was one of the first places to be tidied, so /bin/rm disappeared pretty quickly, and I don't think I lost anything too important.06:31
amphiDrac[Server] : cool, I wasn't aware of that06:31
dmnalioth dapper update killed all forms of wireless, now i boot up linux has no netowrk , try to configure and activate using network settings sits there for 2 minutes and says its active ( disconnected in network-status ) and will not allow me to connect to the internet. although my router is working and other computers are on the net ( this one )06:31
dmnalioth i should say all forms of networking06:31
ucenikhello06:32
dmnalioth using wifi radar i am able to view wireless signals in the area so its not my network card ( checked in windows too )06:32
naliothdm: join #ubuntu+106:32
LjLdooglus: ever tried a versioning file system? won't save you from something like that, but it would save you from the accidentally thrown "rm"... i was thinking of using one for my home directory06:32
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dooglusLjL: I'm just glad it didn't do an 'rm -r' - that would have been a lot more damaging.06:33
naliothdapper drake issues should be discussed in #ubuntu+106:33
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ucenikcan anybody explain me how to set up my internet connection on ubuntu 5.0406:33
dooglusLjL: I've used Rational's MVFS a lot - multi-version filesystem06:33
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dooglusLjL: but I don't know of any free versions06:33
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LjLdooglus: (i mean, i don't know how often you accidentally throw "rm"'s, but i did type "rm" instead of "mv" more than once... now i've got rm aliased to "rm -i" ;)06:33
sksHi, Where must the proxy details be specified so that amarok could acess the internet ? I'm talking about an Ubuntu system.06:33
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dooglusLjL: first thing I do when I get a new account is add "alias rm='rm -i'; alias mv='mv -i'; alias cp='cp -i'" to the .bashrc06:34
babyboyhi evrybody06:34
LjLdooglus: no, there is one free versioning pseudo-filesystem that works on top of FUSE. there is also a versioning version (erm) of ext3, called ext3cow06:34
babyboygot a qick question06:34
ucenikso do i but no one replies...06:34
babyboylol06:34
LjLdooglus: that's a good idea, but not something i thought about until i got burned06:34
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IdleOneask your questions06:34
dooglusLjL: I use GNU Emacs for editing, and have it set to keep old versions of every edit I make in a subdirectory of the file's directory called Backup06:35
ucenikcan anybody explain me how to set up my internet connection on ubuntu 5.0406:35
StucKmanucenik: how are you connected to the inet?06:35
dooglusLjL: so if I look in ~/Backup I see files like .bashrc.~107~ and .bashrc.~108~06:35
LjLdooglus: well, that's basically DIY versioning... if you do that, i think you really should give that filesystem a try06:35
ucenikstuckman : don't understand.06:35
LjLdooglus: http://wayback.sourceforge.net/    http://www.ext3cow.com/06:35
StucKmanucenik: modem, lan, dsl or similar...?06:36
ucenikdsl06:36
ucenikadsl06:36
dooglusLjL: OK, I'll look into it as soon as I get my dapper working again.06:36
LjLdooglus: (ext3cow is only for 2.4 kernels, and i wouldn't trust it anyway, but wayback is user-level, so it doesn't touch the actual filesystem structures)06:36
StucKmanucenik: pppoe?06:36
ucenikyes06:36
dooglusLjL: how would you suggest I do it, by the way?  I don't want to reinstall from a Flight4 CD, 'cos that will wipe /home (right?)06:36
StucKmanucenik: sudo aptitude install pppoe-config06:36
babyboyi cant get my legitec quickcam messenger to work on ubuntu..... i found this http://home.mag.cx/messenger/06:36
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babyboystill no luck06:36
mynameisdeletedwhat repository mirrors are there for when the main apt-get mirror is down?06:36
ucenikstuckman: again, I don't understand06:37
LjLdooglus: no, i don't think it will wipe home, if you don't tell it to format06:37
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StucKmanucenik: ok, do you use synaptics?06:37
mynameisdeletedyay06:37
mynameisdeletedits up again06:37
ucenik?'06:37
LjLdooglus: i don't think it will wipe *anything* actually (except for overwriting things with new files) unless you tell it to -- which is bad, so you should remove everything except /home before re-installing06:37
ucenik????06:37
IdleOneucenick your new to linux right?06:37
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ucenikhow could you tell....06:37
StucKmanucenik: how do you install software in your ubuntu?06:37
LjLdooglus: i've never tried actually leaving /home alone when re-installing. but i *have* tried moving /home/myuser to /tempuser, and that worked well06:38
IdleOneucenik:  nothing to be ashamed about so are alot of ppl here06:38
ucenikI don't. I only installed jt06:38
ucenikfrom one cd06:38
ucenikdidn06:38
vaderok, had to be sure the wireless was working right06:38
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StucKmanucenik: ok, is your desktop `up and running'?06:38
babyboycan anyone tell me how to install my logitec quickcam messenger webcam on ubuntu?06:38
LjLdooglus: though perhaps you shouldn't really call it "tempuser", or anything resembling "tmp" ;P06:38
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LjLbabyboy: don't have that specific webcam, but my one gets recognized as a logitech quickcam express (even though it isn't, i suppose it's a rebrand) and works out of the box06:39
babyboyso do you think mine will also work as that?06:40
LjLbabyboy: it's won't do any harm to try, for sure06:40
babyboydo you know how i go about installing the driver for hat then please LjL06:40
LjLbabyboy: you could use the "camstream" or "camorama" (or whatever, "apt-cache search webcam") to test it06:40
babyboygot camorama06:41
LjLbabyboy: well no, i don't, since as i said mine worked without doing anything special...06:41
babyboydamn, i guess im just unlucky, lol06:41
Silivrenionanyone know where to get the floppy boot iso for ubuntu?06:41
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LjLSilivrenion: i'm not sure there is one... (and it wouldn't be an "iso" anyway ;)06:41
babyboycould not connect to video device dev/video0 :S lol :(06:42
well_can someone tell me where the files are in witch the network configuration is saved?? pls06:42
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LjLSilivrenion: you could look at this http://btmgr.webframe.org/06:43
well_s/witch/which06:43
syllogismok - if I copy a bunch of *.deb packages from one computer to another - how can I get them to be recognized by apt?06:43
LjLSilivrenion: this should allow booting your bootable cd from a boot floppy --- that is if your computer can't boot from cds06:43
LjLwell_: well, /etc/network is one place06:44
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syllogismI can't download them all again - this is a dial-up connection06:44
LjLsyllogism: you don't, not easily anyway06:44
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LjLsyllogism: well...06:44
syllogismLjL, there has got to be a way to do this. .06:44
syllogismthat would be simply stupid if I can't add these files somehow06:44
LjLsyllogism: i can only think of setting up a local mirror06:44
LjLsyllogism: well you can certainly install them one by one06:44
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LjLsyllogism: perhaps i would just write a script to do that, i guess it would be easier than setting up a mirror06:45
well_thx LjL06:45
syllogismLjL, would dpkg manage the dependencies?06:45
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LjLsyllogism: try writing a script like this, "for Package in /directory/containing/packages/*; do dpkg -i "$Package"; done"06:45
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LjLsyllogism: no, it wouldn't. indeed, i was just going to tell you that this script should be run *many times*, until all the dependencies have been solved ;)06:46
LjLsyllogism: not the cleanest method i could come up with, i guess, but i think it will work06:46
ucenikstuckman: sorry, I had to do something. i installed ubuntu if that's what yuo meaN , but at the moment I am at friends.06:46
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syllogismLjL, sounds horrible. . .   how hard would it be to set up a local mirror?06:46
syllogismLjL, I'll google it - nevermind06:46
syllogismthanks for the help06:46
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LjLsyllogism: yeah, you should google it, i don't really know. have a look at the "apt-move" package though06:47
syllogismroger that06:47
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LjLsyllogism: "apt-proxy" too, though that's intended as - you guess - a proxy. but perhaps you could fool it into accepting the packages you already have =)06:48
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StucKmanucenik: ok, so, boot on your desktop, select System -> Admin -> something synaptics. that's the package manager. search for pppoe-config and install it. then open a terminal, and run sudo pppoe-config. I guess that's all06:48
RichART1where's MadPilot06:48
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RichART1i did wat u said, now i06:49
LjLsyllogism: but really, i guess apt-move will do most of the work - that is create the directory hierarchy for a mirror. at that point, you can just install an HTTP or FTP server and use it in your sources.list06:49
syllogismLjL, I can probably just set up a local mirror from my laptop. . I've got an ftp server setup already. . shouldn't be too bad06:49
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RichART1i have no windows os & the ubuntu still wont load06:49
rugova_1if i install server type of ubuntu how to i enable bootsplash ??06:49
RichART1so i'm in the procy of dLing another xp pro w/ sp206:49
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syllogismRichART1, probably not the wisest thing. . telling us that06:50
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RichART1why?06:50
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RichART1oh yeah.....lol06:50
RichART1i c ur pt.06:50
RichART1oh well, there's no shame in my game06:51
Rambo3did you watch 60 minites about FBI working on IRC?06:51
ucenikstuckman: so that's it? and where from does it install that package?06:51
StucKmanRichART1: no solu either. you already sold it to the wrong guy :-P06:51
StucKmanucenik: with a little of luck, from the cd06:51
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StucKmansoul*06:52
RichART1the devil?06:52
RichART1lmao06:52
StucKmanRichART1: you said it, not me :)06:52
ucenikokay06:52
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ucenikand can somebody, perhpas you stuckman, tell me how actually secure is surfing on ubuntu06:53
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kc1933hi06:53
RichART1right u R06:53
cjcan someone tell me where to find fglrxconfig ?06:53
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hcatlinIs anyone else having repository issues today?06:53
Rambo3depends most on users IQ06:53
hcatlinsecurity.ubuntu.org seems to be flipping a little.06:54
naliothhcatlin: yes, they are wonky atm06:54
hcatlin.com i mean06:54
Rambo3security repos aint working for me06:54
LjLRambo3: perhaps they've been hacked06:54
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hcatlinAny Ruby package maintainers in here?06:54
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dooglusLjL: to be on the safe side, I'm installing a fresh dapper into a subdirectory of /mnt/dapper - so the old one will still be around, what's left of it.06:54
BisschopI'm pretty new to ubunbtu and have a few questions, is there somebody prepared to help me out06:54
Bisschop?06:55
ucenikand can somebody, perhpas you stuckman, tell me how actually secure is surfing on ubuntu06:55
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jimcooncatucenik, define secure06:55
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Rambo3i would go for bad routing from my isp. but it could be that too06:55
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StucKmanucenik: well... most virus won't affect you. per default it has no firewall, but not much servers running either. and you can fall into phishing with any browser. so I guess that, except for most virus and troyans, you're as secure as in any other platform. *but*, most security problems come from virus and trojans.06:55
LjLdooglus: a subdirectory of a mount? you really don't learn, do you...? :-)06:55
dooglusLjL: um...06:55
StucKmanucenik: so I guess the short answer is: safer than *that* other platform, as safe as any *nix like06:56
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ucenikwell, do I need some sort of other protection against internet attacks? do I need firewall? is there some sort of antivirus for it?06:56
dooglusit seems the safest option, if I don't want to go down the rediculous road of actually making backups...06:56
jimcooncatmany security problems come not from your computing environment, but from yourself and the guy on the other end06:56
LjLucenik: not unless you install servers, not practically...06:56
StucKmanBisschop: you just make your questions06:56
sagarpi accidentally screwed up my system and now it wont detect my serial ata drive...cfdisk /dev/sda says "cannot find drive" or something...so i booted up with a suse live cd i found, and tried cfdisk /dev/sda and it gives the same error...where else can my serial ata drive be??06:56
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LjLucenik: but you can install firestarter, they say it's a good firewall06:56
Rambo3ucenik you can get all that info from wiki and forums06:56
dooglusucenik: there's not a lot in the way of protection for linux.  everyone seems to think it's secure :)06:56
BisschopI installed a few packages but when i ran nmap I saw I had e few ports open from the packages I installed, how could i close them?06:56
jimcooncatucenik, no antivirus needed, but there's one available if you're fowarding email or docs to Windows users06:56
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LjLucenik: as for an antivirus, no, you really don't need one for all practical purposes. i do suggest running rkhunter and chkrootkit once in a while, though06:57
cjBisschop: learn iptables06:57
LjLucenik: but the most important suggestion i can give you is probably to use strong passwords ;)06:57
StucKmanucenik: as I said, most virus won't affect you. and when I say most, I'm talking abount 99.999 and some more 9's % of them06:57
cjucenik: or not password + rsa keys06:57
cjer, no password06:57
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StucKmanucenik: about firewalls... well, having one won't hurt you.06:57
KRAHi, ubuntu noob here, I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time (the Dapper Drake) And somehow I made a mistake and ended up with edubuntu rather than ubuntu, are there any mayor differences, I'm thinking like what packages are awailable, what I am allowed to do etc... or is it the same system with some extra packages and other icons/wallpaper etc..06:57
zielonyWhat do you think aobut ati cards and Linux ? Can I buy Radeon without any problems in future ?06:57
ucenikwhat do you suggest? that firestarter or what?06:58
cjpassword protect your rsa key, and don't use passwords other than to access your rsa keys :)06:58
ahoora.06:58
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LjLKRA: aha, yeah, there are differences :) but just in the way of what packages are installed. you can changed that06:58
cjbut that's not really feasible unless you take the time to learn how to use TLS06:58
LjLKRA: just install the "ubuntu-desktop" package and you'll have the full ubuntu, *plus* what's included in edubuntu and not in ubuntu06:58
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Rambo3zielony, having both ati and nvidia since red hat 7.1 , i would consider buying nvidia06:58
LjLKRA: if you want to remove the edubuntu-specific parts, well, i guess you need a package listing from someone with a fresh ubuntu install...06:59
KRAthanks LjL06:59
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ucenikand how old is version 5.04?06:59
cjcan someone tell me where to find fglrxconfig ?06:59
ograKRA, if you choose the default install of edubuntu, it has installed some server bits for a classroom server that are not in ubuntu06:59
dooglusKRA: "debfoster" is a good way of removing the things which are only installed because of edubuntu06:59
LjLucenik: 10 months old or so. i would use 5.10 (breezy) right now06:59
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dooglusKRA: install ubuntu-desktop first, then use debfoster to set rid of edubuntu and any packages which are only installed because of it07:00
Rambo3if i install server type of ubuntu how do i enable bootsplash after install??07:00
amphizielony: ati cards old enough to have 3d accel xorg drivers are ok, but if you have to use proprietary drivers, ati cards are a bit of a nightmare07:00
LjLdooglus: perhaps there is the output of "dpkg --get-selections" from a fresh ubuntu somewhere on the web... and if there is not, i think there should be07:00
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ucenikLjL: rkhunter and chkrootkit? what would that be?07:00
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LjLucenik: they're programs that check for "rookits", which are the thing closest to virus on linux in a practical sense07:01
ograKRA, if you take the path dooglus describes, you should do that as well for edubuntu-server ;)07:01
LjLucenik: a rootkit is a program that's used by hackers to hide their presence after they've gotten into your box07:01
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LjLucenik: and do not believe hackers won't care about your box. they will07:01
zielonySo there will be problems with drivers and acceleration with 9500 pro ?07:01
dooglusLjL: I think I will soon be in the perfect position to help with the package list...  since installing a fresh ubuntu dapper is exactly what I'm doing...07:02
ucenikLjL: where can I find those things, and firestarter?07:02
robertjwhee my 18 day long rsnapshot is done!07:02
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LjLucenik: "apt-cache search <keywords>" will let you search for packages - "apt-cache show <package>" will give you information about a package - "sudo aptitude install <package>" will install it07:02
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KRAOk, since I'm new to ubuntu I don't really know how to install packages, I used debian a few years back, so I assume it's a apt-get thingy, but I just installed this system and I don't even know the root password07:02
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LjLucenik: however, some thousands of packages won't be available to you until you enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. the bot will tell you how07:03
LjL!tell kra about root07:03
dooglusKRA: the root account is locked.  use "sudo apt-get install <package>" to install packages07:03
pilgrimI added some fonts to my /usr/shared/fonts/ directory. How do I rebuild the font cache?07:03
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StucKmanucenik: well, 5.04 it's from april 2005. there was another release october 2005 and another will come in april 200607:04
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JoKoHi... I want to install Ubuntu in a computer with no internet access. Could anyone show me any guides on installing and updating this PC?07:06
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SeveasJoKo, you update with the CD of a new version 07:06
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JoKo ???07:07
LjLJoKo: have you no way of connecting that computer to a network (the internet if possible, your local network otherwise)? it'll be much easier i think07:07
gopihello, i am net to Ubuntu !07:07
JoKoLjL, no... :(07:07
gopinew*07:07
CaNsAshould i partition the hd using LVM ?07:07
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gopijust now i installed Ubuntu and logged into X-Chat07:07
JoKoCaNsA, it depends... if you want later to add space to your Linux installation, LVM becomes very handy07:08
LjLJoKo: well, installing ubuntu will be easy enough. updating it, or installing new programs, won't be as easy07:08
CaNsAthe hd will be used as the system drive07:08
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JoKoSo there is no way... Somewhere I've seen updating the repository using CDs07:09
KRAapt-get doesn't findt the debfoster package, does one have to compile it ?07:10
sagarphmm and grub doesnt boot normally, it skips everything and automatically goes to the "recovery mode"...i checked menu.lst and it's normal, i dont see why grub wont show the menu07:10
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LjLJoKo: yeah, you can create an updated CD from another computer07:10
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JoKoLjL, how to do so?07:10
LjLJoKo: won't be the easiest thing on earth07:10
ruby123how to check which ubuntu version i am using?07:10
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gopiI am going to download bt driver (TV tuner card) .... my doubt is should i need to download from Ubunto OS or can i download from Win XP also ?07:11
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LjLJoKo: well, it boils down to creating a partial mirror of Ubuntu's repositories on a CD. if it were not "partial", i think you could just copy the repository into a CD verbatim07:12
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LjLJoKo: but of course a CD won't hold the whole repository ;) so i think you should copy all the directories from the rep as they are, except for the "pool" directory -- there you should manually choose which packages you want07:12
LjLJoKo: but... dependency hell07:12
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brian_may I ask a question please?07:13
ogshey. What kernelversion does Drapper Drake come with?07:13
LjLJoKo: you don't at least have *another* computer with ubuntu?07:13
LjLbrian_: don't ask to ask, just ask ;)07:13
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JoKoLjL, I have a notebook with Ubuntu and net access...07:14
irvinogs: now i have 2.6.15-1507:14
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LjLJoKo: cool, that will make it a bit easier i think...07:14
brian_i installed winxp on this box first, then installed ubuntu.... now I get a STOP 0x00000024 error when  I boot windows, windows worked fine before i installed ubuntu....07:14
brian_is there a way I can fix the error07:14
JoKobrian_, have you change anything in hardware?07:15
JoKochanged *07:15
brian_it says to run chkdsk but I cant.... wont let me... is there a way within linux to run a chkdsk /f /r on my win32 partition07:15
brian_JoKo, no07:15
LjLJoKo: try "apt-cache show apt-proxy". if you use that program to download updates for your laptop, then you'll probably be able to simply burn the apt-proxy directory on a cd07:15
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LjLJoKo: "apt-move" might be useful too, it builds a mirror automatically from raw .deb files... but i think in your case apt-proxy could probably be a better choice07:17
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malverian[work] Hey guys.. is there a gstreamer plugin set for Dapper Drake that has MAD/MP3 support?07:18
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lesshaste can anyone get make menuconfig/xconfig to work for 2.6.16-rc4-mm1? It completely fails for me07:18
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brian_I want to continue to use ubuntu... and I really like linux.. but I must have my win32 installed and working because I have win32 a-specific aps... help!07:19
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ogsIm on the verge of installing linux for the very first time, and my choice of distro fell on Ubuntu.... however, I d/l drake instead of badger...is there any reason i should pick badger over drake?07:19
LjLJoKo: from apt-proxy's features list: "builds up a partial mirror directory automatically, with exactly the same directory structure and filenames as the original mirror."  --- seems like what you need07:19
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ogskeep in mind im a total n00b :)07:19
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RichART1Kamion: but we would like bug reports about whatever is breaking, if you can07:20
RichART11316.08 RichART1: i'll do just that bro07:20
RichART1Kamion: but we would like bug reports about whatever is breaking, if you can07:20
RichART11316.08 RichART1: i'll do just that bro07:20
RichART11317.01 RichART1: well, i burn the .iso TWICE=once, 2 a scratched up cd-rw; & 2ndly to a new cd-r; NEITHER would install the other pkgs07:20
RichART1Kamion: but we would like bug reports about whatever is breaking, if you can07:20
RichART11317.19 RichART1: i mean, the base installed ok, but the rest of the pkgs......no07:20
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RichART11316.08 RichART1: i'll do just that bro07:20
brian_ogs, Newer versiosn sometimes have better suypport all around...07:20
irvinogs: breezy is stable, dapper is still under development07:20
jennihello ubuntu peeps - new girl here needs help 'mount' ing a usb drive07:20
JoKoLjL, ok thanks07:20
RichART11318.27 RichART1: and whilst booting (w/out the cd~from GRUB) the *name recognition or sth like dat FAILED07:20
RichART11317.01 RichART1: well, i burn the .iso TWICE=once, 2 a scratched up cd-rw; & 2ndly to a new cd-r; NEITHER would install the other pkgs07:20
RichART11317.19 RichART1: i mean, the base installed ok, but the rest of the pkgs......no07:20
RichART11319.07 RichART1: that's pretty all the reports i have07:20
ruby123how to check which ubuntu version i am using?07:20
LjLJoKo: note that you can use "apt-get --download-only install blah" to import packages into apt-proxy that you do *not* want installed on your net-connected laptop07:20
RichART11318.27 RichART1: and whilst booting (w/out the cd~from GRUB) the *name recognition or sth like dat FAILED07:20
LjLRichART1: don't paste in the channel please07:20
RichART1sorry bout that07:20
RichART11317.01 RichART1: well, i burn the .iso TWICE=once, 2 a scratched up cd-rw; & 2ndly to a new cd-r; NEITHER would install the other pkgs07:20
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RichART11317.19 RichART1: i mean, the base installed ok, but the rest of the pkgs......no07:20
ruby123there's no ubuntu --version command07:20
RichART11319.07 RichART1: that's pretty all the reports i have07:20
RichART1sorry again07:20
RichART11318.27 RichART1: and whilst booting (w/out the cd~from GRUB) the *name recognition or sth like dat FAILED07:20
RichART11319.07 RichART1: that's pretty all the reports i have07:20
RichART1::LjL:: where can i paste then? pm?07:21
irvinRichART1: fix y'er keyboard man ;)07:21
LjLRichART1: no, look at the channel topic07:21
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lesshaste can anyone get make menuconfig/xconfig to work for 2.6.16-rc4-mm1? It completely fails for me07:21
RichART1k07:21
brian_post on a website07:21
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JoKoLjL, thanks for the tip... Very useful indeed07:21
irvin!tell RichART1 about pastebin07:21
RichART1got it07:21
ruby123hola amigos... how to check ubuntu version i am use?07:21
RichART1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:21
dieguitolesshaste: fails how?07:21
LjLruby123: "cat /etc/issue"07:21
brian_can anyone help me with my problem?07:22
ruby123LjL: thank07:22
lesshastedieguito: drivers/scsi/Kconfig:245: can't open file "drivers/scsi/sas/Kconfig"07:22
irvinruby123: uname -a07:22
jennican anyone help me mount my external usb drive?07:22
LjLirvin: that will tell him about his *kernel* version, not his *ubuntu* version07:22
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dieguitolesshaste: check that drivers/scsi/sas/ exists07:22
irvinLjL: oops! my bad07:22
jenniI looked at the wiki and have a few questions about the /etc/fstab07:22
lesshastedieguito: I have given up on it.. I think it is broken.. thx though07:23
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dieguitolesshaste: try a vanilla kernel if you want to compile anyway07:24
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lesshastedieguito: I was asked to try mm for a bug report07:24
dieguitooh07:24
dieguitook07:24
jenniif I add a mount command to /etc/fstab and don't always have the drive plugged in, will it mess up if it is in there?07:24
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jenniI ran fdisk -l and I can see the drive on /dev/sda1 and the filesystem is vfat07:25
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beerockxsI'm having a problem with the opensource radeon driver.07:25
beerockxswhen I select it in my xorg.conf, X does not start07:25
beerockxsdo i need to install a kernel module manually or sth like that?07:25
beerockxsi was using the proprietary driver earlier07:26
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gopiI am having ATI Radeon 9700 Pro.... is there drivers for it for Ubuntu ??07:27
beerockxsgopi: the drivers from ati work07:27
gopiIf so from where can I get it ?07:27
bunniearsHI guys. im having issues installing onscreen keyboard :S07:27
beerockxsgopi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:27
gopithanks a lot beerockxs !07:28
brian_ok everyone I think I found a solution07:28
brian_BUT how do I access the NTFS partition here in linux?07:28
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brian_all i need to do is delete one file and copy a backup from another location07:28
linuxboyfriendhi all07:28
StucKmanbrian_: you won't get write access to ntfs partitions07:29
linuxboyfriendI want to put a script in system startup, how can I do that?07:29
ruby123hm.. i cannot: apt-get install kdevelop07:29
brian_StucKman, what can i do then07:29
StucKmanlinuxboyfriend: put it in /etc/init.d/ and then use update-rc.d07:29
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brian_ntfs.sys file is corrupt after installing ubuntu i have a backup.....07:29
linuxboyfriendStucKman: hmm, lemme check07:30
StucKmanbrian_: I guess you're stuck? I don't know your problem...07:30
beerockxsbrian_, use a windows system rescue disc thingy?07:30
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brian_recovery doesnt work...07:30
xtreonanyone knows a commandline package installer? exept apt?07:30
brian_StucKman, here is the problem07:30
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StucKmanruby123: have you universe enabled?07:30
_jasonbrian_: I think the windows install disk lets you do it, but you can try http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/, I've heard good things but have never used it07:30
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ruby123StucKman: checking...07:30
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StucKmanxtreon: apt-get or aptitude07:31
gopibeerockxs: So those ATI drivers are automatically installed while installing Ubuntu ?07:31
brian_I installed winxp pro, all is fine, no hardware changes, and then i install ubuntu, badger, and after installation... reboot... i get STOP 0x00000024 and cant get into anything recovery, nothing...07:31
KurtKrautI found a bug in Dapper Flight 4. I was looking over launchpad and I didn't fing a proper place to report that. Anyone could give me a link ?07:31
linuxboyfriendStucKman: will provide some more detal,  update-rc.d is asking for options to use and not doing the job!07:31
StucKmanbrian_: interesting07:31
ruby123StucKman: yea universe es enabled07:31
StucKmanruby123: kdevelop3?07:32
pilgrimI added some fonts to my /usr/shared/fonts/ directory. How do I rebuild the font cache?07:32
beerockxsgopi: i don't know, but following the HOWTO will install them07:32
brian_I would love to be a guinea pig for the ubuntu dev's...07:32
gopiok thanks07:32
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StucKmanbrian_: I don't know much XP07:32
ruby123StucKman: thank!07:32
brian_if I can send a hardware profile to someone07:32
brian_this has to be a bug in the way ubuntu installed itself, some how...07:32
linuxboyfriendStucKman: I try to find local.start but can not find it!07:32
brian_i mean, i got 5 boxes in this room...07:32
brian_none of them have ubuntu07:32
cybliviousdoes someone know where akregator files are stored?07:32
oklinuxhow do I make my icon small ?07:32
brian_erxcept this oine...07:33
_jasonbrian_: what option did you choose when installing?  shrink ntfs?07:33
LjLcyblivious: .kde/share/apps/akgregator07:33
robotgeekcyblivious: .kde/share/apps/akregator07:33
brian_did i?07:33
brian_i just went default whole way07:33
linuxboyfriendcan anyone else tell me, how can i put a script in system startup?07:33
KurtKrautHow can I report a bug in Dapper Flight 4 ?07:33
cybliviousthanks guys07:33
StucKmanbrian_: it's more like XP didn't liked that ubuntu overwrited teh MBR or something like that07:33
LjLlinuxboyfriend: man update-rc.d07:34
brian_StucKman, ah07:34
LjLlinuxboyfriend: not as easy at editing autoexec.bat, mind you07:34
StucKmanlinuxboyfriend: that's distro-specific.07:34
_jasonbrian_: did ubuntu have free space on the drive to create new partitions before you installed/07:34
irvinKurtKraut: http://www.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs07:34
brian_yes07:34
brian_100gb drive with base xp install07:34
brian_so i guess it had 70 gigs available07:34
brian_and i know more then that07:35
robotgeeklinuxboyfriend: if you want to run at gnome, startup, it si much easier07:35
_jasonbrian_: I mean partition-wise07:35
brian_yes it did07:35
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_jasonbrian_: strange, the installer shouldn't touch your windows partition if you have unpartitioned space for it07:35
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brian_jason, i think i am wrong and you are right, it DID resize my parition07:36
brian_er partition07:36
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brian_the NTFS07:36
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ruby123StucKman: ubuntu security pkgs repo is no responding :-(07:37
brian_i wanted ubuntu to have 20 gigs of free space and for win32 to have the rest07:37
LjLlinuxboyfriend: basically you need to create a script in /etc/init.d/, which can take a "start", "stop" or "restart" argument, and then use update.rc-d to register that script07:37
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vlauzumshi, what's a good torrent application for ubuntu?07:37
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cybliviouswell, checked the akregator dir hoping there will be a way to customize the layout07:37
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spikebikeazureus07:37
brian_i will brb everyone going to try something...07:37
cyblivioussadly found nothing07:37
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LjLis *there* some way that nobody ever mentions to make APT ignore the fact that some installed package has missing dependencies? i know what i'm doing, really .)07:37
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StucKmanruby123: not my fault :-|07:38
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italyHEY GUYS07:38
ruby123StucKman: i know. :-(07:38
LjLvlauzums: there should be one installed by default i think07:38
StucKmanvlauzums: azureus, but eats *lots* of ram. >300MiB here, with just 10 torrents07:38
ruby123argh! i really want kdevelop!!07:38
LjLStucKman: well, azureus isn't really for ubuntu anyway07:39
green_earzvlauzums: check out bittornado-gui07:39
LjLStucKman: at least it's not in the repos07:39
StucKmanLjL: isn't? I was sure...07:39
ohgoodvlauzums: do you want cli or gui ?07:39
spikebikestuckman resident or allocated?07:39
StucKmanthen... what? bittornado? is there ktorrent?07:39
vlauzumsohgood: gui07:39
ohgoodok, nevermind :)07:39
LjLStucKman: it isn't. though perhaps they have ubuntu packages on their site, dunno, but it's definitely not in the standard reps07:39
vlauzumsthanks for the suggestions everyone07:40
robotgeekruby123: kdevelop307:40
StucKmanspikebike: allocated, but still a lot of memory (yes, I said ram before)07:40
LjLktorrent would be nice and fast, except it keeps crashing on me07:40
LjL(hanging actually)07:40
green_earzvlauzums: aptitude search bittornado-gui   to see if its on your apt-get mirror07:40
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spikebikeallocated memory is free, I would compare using resident07:40
ruby123robotgeek: argh. it keeps saying "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/m4/m4_1.4.3-1_i386.deb  Size mismatch"07:40
MalachiIs it just me, or is the Linux version of Nvu a little buggy?07:40
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LjLruby123: try another mirror perhaps07:41
ruby123LjL: how do that?07:41
KurtKrautirvin: can you say me what is the name of this package: http://www.kurtkraut.net/ubuntu/flight4/ (pictures) - I want to report that.07:41
shikamaru85anyone know how i use the gdm themes downloaded from gdm-look07:41
LjLruby123: change "us." into something else in your /etc/apt/sources.list07:41
chromebuntui have loads of problems with the official mirrors07:41
KurtKrautirvin: So I need the name of the package where this code is.07:41
StucKmanspikebike: well, actually is what top reports as VSIZE, which if not in real RAM, it's in swap07:41
bunniearsn/m figured it my self :/07:41
shikamaru85and the plashcreens07:41
spikebikewhich seems insane07:41
LjLruby123: like "ca.", or "it.", "fr.", whatever nation07:41
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spikebikeoops07:41
ruby123LjL: thank07:41
chromebuntuLjL: most of the *.archive.ubuntu.com servers all point to the same machine (at least for me)07:41
shikamaru85sorry, splashscreens07:42
mAIJKWhere do I find the file there my webmin accout is?07:42
spikebikestuck right, so use RSZ or similar07:42
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chromebuntuLjL: ah its different now :)07:42
LjLchromebuntu: well, the italian mirror is on an italian machine, i can assure you... also, i recall the romanian mirror is as well. don't know about the others07:42
irvinKurtKraut: that's a fsck07:42
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irvinKurtKraut: a file system check if a drive is u/mounted 30 times07:43
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cyblivioushow can i set some apps to run at startup?07:43
StucKmanmAIJK: open a browser, goto http://localhost:10000/ and use your user and password07:43
KurtKrautirvin: No, it is not. I've booted a LiveCD with Flight4 and in the first menu I asked it to check the integrity of the CD.07:43
LjLcyblivious: just open the apps that you want to open at startup, and then logout choosing to "save your session"07:44
KurtKrautirvin: And when a file is not okay, he prompts the error 'mismatch'. But look carefully to those pictures. The word 'mismatch' in read is scrambled with other words. Ther e is a error in the prompting.07:44
cyblivioushehe, isn't there a more 'proper' way?07:44
ruby123LjL: yaay! it workes :-)07:44
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ruby123mi beautiful kdevelop :-)07:45
StucKmanruby123: enjoy :)07:45
LjL:)07:45
KurtKrautirvin: do you know the name of that package ? I need that to report it in the URL you gave me.07:45
irvinKurtKraut: oh it's a livecd... better ask in -devel for the correct one.07:45
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KurtKrautirvin: '-devel' ? Where exactly ?07:46
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LjLcyblivious: i don't think it's considered "improper", really07:46
irvinKurtKraut: #ubuntu-devel07:46
KurtKrautirvin: ok, thanks.07:46
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cybliviousbut then, i have to always leave those apps open before shutting down07:46
tmg2Hello!07:47
LjLcyblivious: no, if you don't normally save your session07:47
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StucKmancyblivious: you can save the session just once, and then never ever again07:47
cybliviousit's always set to save my session07:47
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StucKmancyblivious: gnome or kde?07:47
tmg2Somebody knows why xedit isn't on ubuntu ?07:47
cybliviouskde07:47
LjLcyblivious: well, then i can tell you i have a ".kde/Autostart" directory. not sure about gnome, though"!07:47
Morrowynno idea, try gedit or kate07:48
cybliviousisn't there a startup folder or text file?07:48
LjLcyblivious: (anyway, session saving can be disabled if you don't need it)07:48
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cybliviousi see. thanks07:48
StucKmancyblivious: ah, then you have the Autostart directory. serach for it07:48
tmg2gedit is heavy :|07:48
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ConfidentiaLIs it possible to connect to Microsoft's Remote Desktop, with Linux?07:48
tmg2I'm using qemacs now :)07:48
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spikebikerdesktop07:48
cybliviousso, i should just place some shorcuts into that dir?07:48
tmg2That's a very good small editor :)07:48
cybliviousso, i should just place some shortcuts into that dir?07:48
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Morrowyn:)07:48
LjLcyblivious: if you mean "symlinks", i guess so07:49
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StucKmancyblivious: yes,07:49
benplauthaving some problems with a broken JFS07:49
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dutchwhat does ubuntu use as a cvs client ?07:49
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cyblivioussorry, just been a linux user for less than a week07:49
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LjLdutch: cvs? =)07:49
dutchyeah07:49
LjLdutch: i mean, i guess it uses cvs :)07:50
benplautI had to force-shutdown, and now it's hanging on boot... only mounts root filesystem as RO... anyone know what to do?07:50
dutch...trying to get a cvs webcam driver..07:50
LjLdutch: at least, i just type "cvs"07:50
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benplautit goes into recovery mode just fine, but i'm not sure what the do from there07:50
dutchokay,  i'll try it..thanks07:50
LjLdutch: you'll need to have it installed of course, "sudo aptitude install cvs"07:50
cybliviousi think i saw an app or option somewhere wherein i can set the apps to autostart. can't remember the utility though07:51
dutchLjL:  guess that would be  a good place to start07:51
Dr_Willisbenplaut,  'check' the file systems - with . err.. i forget the name of the shell command. lol - aint used it in ages07:51
benplautfsck?07:51
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rockyburthm, anyone know if the sun jdk is available as a package for dapper drake yet?07:52
LjLdutch: then you can have several graphical front-ends if you like... just search for "gnome cvs" or "kde cvs"07:52
somai cant install libssl-dev, cause it depends on an older version of libssl, any clues how i can override it?07:52
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shaa-gibenplaut: yes.  fsck (or jfs_fsck)07:52
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emmocan I ask a question but without messing aroud with me I just say that because some users are really nice but other are very nasty....sorry to that.07:52
Dr_Willisrockyburt,  i followed the !java bot url and installed it that way07:52
LjLemmo: just ask07:52
rockyburt!java07:52
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:52
shaa-gibenplaut: the entry in /etc/fstab should have a 1 in the last column.  Then fsck should run automatically during reboot07:52
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Dr_Willisrockyburt,  theyr method makes a package  that you can then install.07:53
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rockyburtgotcha07:53
emmowhy I have that output :$ ./browser2.hta07:53
emmoksh: ./browser2.hta: cannot execute - Permission denied07:53
LjLemmo: try "chmod +x browser2.hta"07:53
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somaanyone know how i can force an apt-get install, if it says broken dependency?07:53
LjLsoma: you can't, afaik07:54
emmoLjL: on my terminal ?07:54
LjLemmo: yes07:54
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somaLjL, argh! :)07:54
mzinzI'm trying to install Synaptics Touchpad Drivers.. When I select for install, I get the following:  Depends: xserver-xfree86 (> 4.1.0).  I can't find this file anywhere in package manager..07:54
LjLsoma: you can only use dpkg to install the stuff manually07:54
LjLsoma: but then, next time apt-get (or aptitude) runs, it will try to remove it07:54
rockyburtDr_Willis: you did that for dapper? i can't seem to find a java-package deb to install (the wiki docs say i must install this)07:55
benplautshaa-gi: i can get into recovery... should i just run the check from there?07:55
Dr_Willisrockyburt,  the directions i found told you how ti MAKE that deb.07:55
shaa-gibenplaut: yes, that should work07:55
ConfidentiaLI know that linux doesn't use batch files, but how do I make a terminal file that launches a command when I click the file? I would like it for the remote desktop...07:55
cyblivioushas anyone experienced having their pc unstable and jerky after mounting an ntfs partition?07:55
emmoLjL: but what is chmod +x ? what that means ??07:55
mzinzHow do I enable X Shared Memory Config in XF86Config?07:55
LjLConfidentiaL: uh, i'm not sure what you mean? you click on what?07:55
Dr_WillisConfidentiaL,  where did ya hear that about 'batch files' - i use them all the time.07:55
rockyburtDr_Willis: no, the instructions describe how to make "j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb", but you need java-package installed in order to make it07:56
Dr_WillisConfidentiaL,  you can eaially make a 'launcher' that runs any shell script you make.07:56
LjLemmo: it changes the permissions on the file, and makes it executable for its owner. in order to execute files, they must be marked as executable07:56
Dr_Willisrockyburt,  i do belive ya had to have multiverse or somthng in the repos for that package.07:56
ConfidentiaLDr_Willis : How?07:56
irvinemmo: that means your giving execute permission on a file... man chmod for more info07:56
benplautshaa-gi: do you know what a 'xtree page corrupt' is? i think the journal is b0rked07:56
mzinzI'm trying to install Synaptics Touchpad Drivers.. When I select for install, I get the following:  Depends: xserver-xfree86 (> 4.1.0).  I can't find this file anywhere in package manager..07:56
rockyburtDr_Willis: i think java-package provides "make-jpkg"07:56
rockyburti have multiverse :(07:56
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Dr_Willisrockyburt,  i rember adding somthing. let me check07:56
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LjLemmo: likewise, they must be set as readable to read them, and writable to write them. every file has three set of permissions --- one that decides what the *owner* of the file can do, one that decides what the *group* of users that the file belongs to can do, and one that decides that the *world* can do07:57
shaa-gishaa-gi: it means you won't be able to recover whatever file it's complaining about07:57
Dr_Willisrockyburt,  main restricted universe multiverse07:57
shaa-gibenplaut: lit means you won't be able to recover whatever file it's complaining about07:57
benplautshaa-gi: so i should rescue on a livecd and reinstall?07:58
rockyburtDr_Willis: i already have:  deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse07:58
LjLemmo: try "ls -l any-file-you-like" -- it will show something like "-rwxrwxrwx" (or "-rwx-r----", or various combinations). from left to right, that's what the owner, group and world can do07:58
mzinzSynaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck07:58
emmoso just last question guys...always when I have that output I can do the same command ???07:58
Dr_Willisrockyburt,   no clue.. i just adeed multiverse to like all the repos :P and got it.07:58
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LjLemmo: no, not blindly...07:58
LjLemmo: "permission denied" can come up for various reasons, only one of which is the file not being marked as executable07:59
shaa-gibenplaut: fsck should tell you the path to any files that cannot be fixed.  You may be able to recover and just have to fix a file or two07:59
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LjLemmo: for example, you may simply not be the owner of that file -- if that's the case, you won't even be able to change its permissions07:59
ConfidentiaLDr_Willis : What is the extension name for the file? Is it .bat here too?07:59
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shaa-gibenplaut: Unless it spews out a whole lot of errors07:59
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LjLemmo: (in that case, you can change them using "sudo chmod", but you should take a lot of care with that)07:59
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benplautshaa-gi: by fixing a file you mean deleting it?07:59
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Dr_WillisConfidentiaL,  now is the time for you to learn some linux basics. :P  it does not have to have any extension. and can be in any of a dozen programing languages.08:00
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LjLConfidentiaL: there are no extensions in linux08:00
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shaa-gibenplaut: fsck will delete a file it can't fix08:00
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benplautahh08:00
TonyB2006the 64bit ubuntu installer keeps freezing as its installing08:00
TonyB2006the md5sum of the cd is fine08:00
ConfidentiaLoh, lol, NICE!:D08:00
benplautso recovery of the fs isn't possible?08:00
shaa-gibenplaut: Depending on the file, you might not worry about it.  It depends on the file08:00
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benplautsays the filesystem is clean08:01
blueboyhi all ..just testing ubuntu and came to realise that it didn't ask me for a root password? Whats that all about ?08:01
ConfidentiaLso I can write like a C++ code in an empty document, and just run it?08:01
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shaa-gibenplaut: that's good08:01
LjLConfidentiaL: at the beginning on a script, you can type  "  #/bin/sh  " -- this means that the script will be executed by /bin/sh, which is the system shell08:01
emmoLjL: yeah I'm not owner ...so where shall I lean more about that but with more details ?08:01
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LjLConfidentiaL: but it can be anything else, like a Perl interpreter, whatever08:01
emmoLjL:please..08:01
LjL!tell emmo about cli08:01
benplautbrb08:01
ConfidentiaLLjL : What about C++ in it?08:02
LjLConfidentiaL: not unless you find a C++ *interpreter*08:02
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LjLConfidentiaL: and C/C++ are usually *compiled* language, though there are certainly some interpreters for C around... not sure about C++08:02
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blueboycan anybody help me please with ( I am sure ) this simple Q ?08:02
Dr_Willisheh...08:02
miveczhello  how i  fix  some bugs in  ubundu the  command08:03
TonyB2006can someone help me?08:03
emmoThank you guys....08:03
bestadvocateI have a need to convince some GTK2 apps, like Serpentine and Thoggen to use a something other than the root file system as the temporary dirrectory.  Anyone have any advice?08:03
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irvin!tell blueboy about sudo08:03
miveczhello  how i  fix  some bugs in  ubundu the  command08:03
bestadvocatemivecz you dont make any sense08:04
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miveczupgrade08:04
Siddhartha211yo08:04
Siddhartha211anyone there08:04
ConfidentiaLalso, can I make the window bar at the bottom have more then 1 row?08:04
blueboyirvin, thanks man08:04
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Siddhartha211i need some help08:04
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alterooSiddhartha211: really?08:05
emmoLjL:thank you08:05
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Siddhartha211im trying to install Adobe Acrobat for Windows...except there some folder it need to install to but it cant becuase windows doesnt allow it08:05
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bestadvocateemmo: hehe08:05
Siddhartha211but if i use linux08:05
Siddhartha211can i delete the file08:05
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alterooSiddhartha211: all you want to do is open a pdf right?08:06
emmobestadvocate:what ?:)08:06
VarkOogTandePasthey08:06
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VarkOogTandePastis tis where i can get help with ubuntu?08:06
bestadvocateemmo: sorry I intended to adress alteroo who had typed the line before you08:06
ConfidentiaLbrb08:07
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Siddhartha211YO I ALREADY REGISTERED HOW COME I CANT SEND PRIVATE MESSAGES?????????????08:07
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Siddhartha211do i have to log in or something08:07
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LjLVarkOogTandePast: it does say "official ubuntu support channel" in the topic, so i guess so ;)08:07
icesomeone tell me how to fix this08:07
VarkOogTandePastlol sorry08:07
iceX Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)08:07
ice  Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)08:07
ice  Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)08:07
ice  Serial number of failed request:  9708:07
ice  Current serial number in output stream:  9808:07
LjLSiddhartha211: start by not SHOUTING, please08:07
robotgeekice, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:07
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emmobestadvocate: no worries...08:07
icesorry08:07
LjLSiddhartha211: you need to "/msg nickserv identify your-password"08:07
VarkOogTandePasti need elp removing that grub ting08:07
iceI have glx enabled though08:08
Siddhartha211"/msg nickserv identify your-password"08:08
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VarkOogTandePastand to connect to a VPN with ubuntu08:08
Siddhartha211where do i put the password08:08
bestadvocatelol08:08
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BrenIIIis there a problem with gcc-3.4???  I'm getting a "failed to fetch......Size mismatch"08:08
LjLSiddhartha211: without the quotes...         perhaps at the place of "your-password"?08:08
LjLSiddhartha211: (are you kidding me?)08:08
bestadvocatethis is highly entertaining08:08
alterooSiddhartha211: how old are you?08:08
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icehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/905708:09
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Big`Hadeswhat is ubuntu ?08:09
Siddhartha21116...but i dont no how to work IRC chats that well08:09
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abrewhat would be the best program for graphically partitioning my hd?08:09
syydbestadvocate - u r right08:09
alterooBig`Hades: ubuntu the word? or the Distro?08:09
VarkOogTandePastis there sumwhere where i can go and read up on those tings?08:09
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Big`Hadesthe distro08:09
heishiroIs there an easy way to install JRE on Ubuntu?08:09
icepackage08:09
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wteri want to install java1.4 in -> /usr/local/java1.4 <-- how ? :)08:10
icesynaptic08:10
nickrud!java08:10
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:10
alterooSiddhartha211: reading is a good way to start learning how to use irc chats08:10
EvilGuruis there a breezy backports project>08:10
alterooBig`Hades: have you tried the site08:10
nickrudjavadebs are nice08:10
VarkOogTandePastice how do i set up my VPN on ubuntu?08:10
VarkOogTandePastplease help08:10
icehmm08:10
alterooBig`Hades: http://www.ubuntu.com/ <-- check it out08:10
Big`Hadesalteroo: yes but is easyer here08:10
heishiroill try synaptic.. but i searched for it and it didnt show.08:10
VarkOogTandePastthats like te decideing factor for me to carry on using it08:10
icebest bet check out vpn servers first and a client08:10
Big`Hadesalteroo: why is this distro so good ?08:11
icethen go from there08:11
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icesorry I use remote desktop08:11
EvilGuruanyone know if there is one08:11
wterwhere will java automaticcaly be installed, cause i have to set $JAVA_HOME to it08:11
VarkOogTandePasti c08:11
alterooBig`Hades: I trust you havent tried it either08:11
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bestadvocateBig`Hades: Its the Universe that won me over08:11
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nickrudheishiro, search for jre2 (for blackdown java) if you can't find it, you need to enable the multiverse repository08:11
oklinuxhow do I make the icon on the desktop smaller ?08:11
VarkOogTandePastbleh, coz i only got the VPN setting from my isp08:11
irvinBig`Hades: because it just works? ;)08:11
Big`Hades:)08:11
alterooSiddhartha211: so.. yeah.. you want to open a pdf?08:12
StucKmanwter: most likely in /usr/lib/java or something similat08:12
abrewhat would be the best program for graphically partitioning my hd?08:12
heishirook nickrud, ill try that... The Multiverse repository i think is enabled... Ill check anyway. Thanks08:12
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VarkOogTandePastThe VPN is a local internet service provider, 512kbps uncapped08:12
alterooBig`Hades: it works well too08:12
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LjL-Dinnerabre: gparted08:12
VarkOogTandePastr399 pm08:12
LjL-DinnerBig`Hades: because debian's good, and ubuntu is based on debian with some nice refinements for the desktop user08:12
nickrudoklinux, System->Prefs->File manager, change the icon zoom08:12
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StucKmanabre: best? partition magic, colsed dource, paid. if not, you can try the gparted live cd08:12
wterStucKman, in /usr/lib isnt a dir called java only a file called java08:12
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nickrudoklinux, that'll change the sizes in a filemanager window also, though08:13
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StucKmanwter: that must be /usr/bin/java08:13
icealright now someone help me outu08:13
icelol08:13
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iceI installed dapper08:13
icebut now can[t get nvidia to work08:13
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StucKmanwter: once installeb from .debs, you can dpkg -L <packagename> to sse where/what's been installed08:13
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VarkOogTandePastice which nvidia do u use?08:13
wtercause i wan t to install ninan, here http://ninan.sourceforge.net/installing.html08:13
linuxboyfriendhi all08:13
wterill try stuckman08:13
ice6600 gt08:14
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sixslapcan anyone here tell me why ident wont work08:14
VarkOogTandePastsorry then myne setting wont elp you08:14
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icewhy what do you have08:14
linuxboyfriendcan I move to lower version (3.3.6) of GCC from a higer version (4.0.2)?08:14
VarkOogTandePastusing the fx5500 turbo08:14
iceyes08:14
iceinstall both08:14
VarkOogTandePastinno3d08:14
StucKmanlinuxboyfriend: you can install several at the same time08:14
iceuse export CC=gcc-3.408:14
iceto compile08:14
StucKmanlinuxboyfriend: and see what ice is saying08:15
icefx5500 how old is that08:15
VarkOogTandePastok, the VPN tings looks like its not going to happen. So how do i remove the GRUB without using fdisk/ mbr command08:15
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iceand you have dapper08:15
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alteroolinuxboyfriend: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.3 #try that08:15
VarkOogTandePastabout a year or so ice08:15
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linuxboyfriendice: can you give me any link for help, today is my first day with ubuntu08:15
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iceumm08:16
edward0where can I download the ubuntu gnome themes?08:16
icejust do as I said bro08:16
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icesudo apt-get install gcc-3.408:16
VarkOogTandePastits 256mb and 256bit so its doing fine for now08:16
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ompauledward0, there are some on gnome-look08:16
icethen do :::export CC=gcc-3.408:16
StucKmanlinuxboyfriend: or use synaptics and look for gcc08:16
linuxboyfriendice: thanks a lot :)08:16
icenp08:17
alterooedward0 have you tried gnome-look.org?08:17
icevark08:17
irvinedward0: the easiest way to do it is install gnome-art08:17
icehelp me08:17
icelol08:17
sixslapcan anyone tell me how to make ident work?08:17
VarkOogTandePastwat moet ek vir jou doen bra?08:17
iceI want to run my graphics card on dapper08:17
TonyB2006can somepne please help me?08:17
VarkOogTandePastlol08:17
bestadvocateI'm accited about ebuntu.08:17
TonyB2006c'mon08:17
TonyB2006the 64bit ubuntu installer keeps freezing as its installing08:17
edward0alteroo: yes but none are the actual ubuntu versions they vary is some way08:17
VarkOogTandePasthhhhmmmm08:17
TonyB2006please...08:17
icefreezing08:17
iceyou mean at the splash screen08:17
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alterooedward0: sudo aptitude install gnome-art #try that08:17
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TonyB2006no08:17
VarkOogTandePastek is nou terug08:17
refuze2loozehow can i have startx executed automatically after logging in?08:17
icevark help08:17
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TonyB2006it freezes at the part where its like "Installing the base system"08:18
icehmm08:18
TonyB2006at a different point every time08:18
emmosee ya...08:18
icevark help08:18
VarkOogTandePastgan gou kyk of ek jou kan help ice08:18
VarkOogTandePastwat is jou vendor?08:18
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heishiroThanks nickrud... The Multiverse repositore was my problem... It wasnt enabled... Thanks a lot...08:18
VarkOogTandePastNvidia?08:18
iceyeah08:18
nickrudheishiro, yw08:18
wter!nohup08:19
ubotuwter: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:19
VarkOogTandePastEn die chipset maker? So Gigabyte bv. ?08:19
wterwhats nohup ?08:19
ice!dapper08:19
ubotuI heard dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it08:19
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icenvidia08:19
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ice!nvidia08:19
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:19
MetaMorfoziSnohup means nohangup08:19
MetaMorfoziSif you start an application from terminal08:19
MetaMorfoziSif you press ctrl c08:19
icefor dapper bot08:19
MetaMorfoziSapp is stopped08:19
ice!dapper-nvidia08:19
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ice08:19
TonyB20063hmm, is dapper the unstable distribution08:19
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wterthnx :)08:19
MetaMorfoziSyou can use nohup or the & symbol08:19
ompaulTonyB2006, dapper is very unstable08:19
VarkOogTandePastok brb ice08:19
icek08:20
MetaMorfoziSfor ex: gedit &08:20
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icecome on08:20
ompaulTonyB2006, are you trying to install dapper or 5.10?08:20
MetaMorfoziSif you ^^ you get back the console, and gedit runs...08:20
linuxboyfriendice: when I gave the command sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4, it said that (I am) linuxboyfriend not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported? whats wrong?08:20
TonyB2006ompaul: 5.1008:20
iceall I want is to get my graphics card working is that too much to ask08:20
icelol08:20
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wterok ok08:20
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ice????08:20
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nnachtI have problem with my network card: it breaks everytime if I try to download a big file, say a cd-image. The NIC ist 813908:20
exxpert_Im baaack!08:20
iceboy what are you using ?08:20
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bestadvocateice: i never got mine working right, accept in horray for a while.08:21
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iceI got it working just fine in breezy08:21
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exxpert_im now on my own ubuntu dapper installation,, got the monitor to work!,,08:21
iceeven the chip set worked good08:21
iceexxpert08:21
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icehave you got your card to work on it08:21
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ompaulTonyB2006, so you have in place an AMD 64 and it freezes some of the way into the install, there are several possible causes of this, no definitive option, so first off there is a page with "boot options" which you can view by pressing F1 and then F5 while the machine is paused at the start of the boot process08:22
VarkOogTandePastdan neem ek an die is jou paste www.linuxforums.org/forum/coffee-lounge/55196-ubuntu-6-04-released-4-20-a.html08:22
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ompaul!tell TonyB2006 about boot options08:22
iceyeah its a bitch to get the monitor to work08:22
ompaul!tell TonyB2006 about bootoptions08:22
iceespecially if its not a fresh install08:22
TonyB2006the main thing is that i installed it once before a while ago08:22
icethx vark08:22
mzinzSynaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck08:22
exxpert_it was the horizsync that f*cked up things..08:22
VarkOogTandePastnp08:22
ompaulTonyB2006, the bot has sent you a message have a look at it08:22
TonyB2006im already using vga=791 option08:22
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TonyB2006i know08:22
bestadvocateAnyone running dapper right now?08:23
exxpertyuup08:23
rockyburtanyone know if the w32codecs run in dapper's totem-gstreamer or if i need totem-xine ?08:23
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bestadvocateexxpert:Is it a good time to upgrade to it on a spare partition?08:23
nickrudrockyburt, totem-xine08:23
exxpertbut dont ask me anything about it;-)08:23
ompaulTonyB2006, there is also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge08:23
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irvinbestadvocate: i'm on it08:23
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Matyas_zaHI guys08:23
TonyB2006no, it IS booting08:24
TonyB2006*IS* booting up08:24
SilivrenionI was able to get my server to boot into dos via a win98 boot cd lying around... Its in dos, and i've cd'ed to the ubuntu install cd.. what do I need to do to get it to install via dos?08:24
TonyB2006and installing part of the system08:24
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exxpertbestadvocate: im not the one to ask that my friend,, sorry.. im n00b:-D08:24
nnachtCan somebody helps me with my network card? The Nic is 8139 in a toshiba m40 notebook, and it breaks everytime when I try to download some big files, like cd-images.08:24
bestadvocateI think I'm going to upgrade to dapper, on account of my boredom08:24
exxpertbestadvocate: then its a good idea:-)08:25
ompaulTonyB2006, read that web page based on what I have seen here it seems to work for some08:25
VarkOogTandePastice is that post help you?08:25
nickrudbestadvocate, the best reason possible, imho ;)08:25
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icehell no08:25
foampeac1hi08:25
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icethere just bitching aboutu ubuntu08:25
mzinzSynaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck08:25
Tom_hello ;)08:25
ompaulice, language please08:25
icesorry08:25
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iceis there a dapper room08:25
Kyral#ubuntu+108:25
ompaul!dapper08:25
ubotumethinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it08:25
Matyas_zaI just installed proftpd and when i try and restart, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart I get this error Warning: ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd08:26
VarkOogTandePastek sal nog kyk08:26
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VarkOogTandePast!grub08:26
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting08:26
rad4ChristGuys, I'm trying to change ownership of some folders on a second hard drive, but I'm getting this:08:26
rad4Christchown: changing ownership of `/mnt/Server/cannon': Operation not permitted08:26
Tom_!raid08:26
ubotuhmm... raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto08:26
rad4ChristAny idea?08:26
icematyas get glftpd08:26
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icea lot better08:26
Knowledge_|wOrkwhat would you guys recommend? installing ubuntu (before 5.1) and then do an upgrade? or just download the newest?08:26
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iceand easier08:26
Matyas_zais it better?08:26
exxpertgotta reboot*08:26
iceyeah08:26
Kyral5.10 is on discs08:26
Tom_thx ubotu08:26
KyralKnowledge_|wOrk: and its 5.10 (as in five POINT ten )08:26
Matyas_zaThank you ICE!08:26
VarkOogTandePast!vpn08:26
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VarkOogTandePast08:27
ConfidentiaLso, is there any way of making the window's bar have more then 1 row?08:27
rad4ChristAnyone?08:27
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iceyep08:27
xtreonCan anyone explain what YUM is?08:27
Kyralxtreon: Its Fedora's Package manager08:27
iceisn;t that suse08:27
KyralThink Apt for RPM08:27
Kyralbut we don't use it for obvious reasons :D08:28
iceyum is susse isn't08:28
iceit08:28
xtreonubuntu is RPM?08:28
iceno08:28
Kyralxtreon: Ubuntu is Deb08:28
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iceapt08:28
TonyB2006no08:28
Kyralxtreon: Apt-Get :D08:28
TonyB2006yes, apt08:28
TonyB2006or dpkg08:28
iceyep08:28
KyralIt's Debian Based so we get the mother of all Package Management :D08:28
xtreonMandrake is RPM? :D08:28
icebummer I want to play some games08:28
icelol08:28
Kyralokay08:28
ompaulice, no it is Yast which masks the rpm commands in SuSE and you asked about dapper /join #ubuntu+1 for it08:28
KyralOff the top of my head08:28
icethanks08:29
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xtreonwhat the hell is RPM then? :S08:29
rad4Christanyone?08:29
ompaulxtreon, language, and it is short for RedHat Package Manager08:29
zF!info RPM08:29
_jasonrad4Christ: what filesystem?08:29
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uboturpm: (Red Hat package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 4.0.4-31ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1968 kB08:29
exxpertanyone know how to change resolution on startup screen?08:29
rad4ChristFAT32, is that the culprit?08:29
irvinrad4Christ: use sudo chmod08:30
KyralRPM: Fedora, SuSE, RedHat(DUH!), Mandriva. Deb(Apt-Get): Debian, Kanotix, U/K/Xubuntu, Mepis, Knoppix, SymphonyOS08:30
ompaulexxpert, sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:30
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_jasonrad4Christ: maybe, never tried it... did you try with sudo?08:30
edward0Human doesn't show up in gnome-art application :(08:30
xtreonKyral: thanks =)08:30
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Kyralxtreon: thats just off the top of my head08:30
VarkOogTandePastgood luck guys08:30
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exxpertompaul: is that really just the resloution of the startup?08:31
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rad4ChristYeah, I tried sudo.08:31
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xtreonso where do i find info about YUM?08:31
Kyralxtreon: not here08:31
Kyrallol08:31
xnullhow do I split files?08:31
rad4ChristI can go to System > Administration > Disks, highlight the drive, click browse, and I can do whatever I want.08:31
irvinedward0: the Human theme is installed by default08:31
Kyralxtreon: look on fedorawiki.org08:31
xtreonKyral: ok i will.. thanks08:32
exxpertompaul: you know then ubuntu is starting up and loads things..08:32
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rad4ChristBut if I go to it from PLaces, I can't to anything...08:32
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ompaulexxpert ahh08:32
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hypnoxxnull: split08:32
beerockxshow can I make sure that the agpgart kernel module is loaded before the radeon one is?08:32
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ompaulexxpert, let me look that one up I think you can do something with it08:32
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yoriananyone knows how strange menu's in VLC, Audacity, xwine, xmms can appear?08:33
eldadhallo! does anybody knows how to configure keyboard language settings?08:33
alterooyorian: yeah ... if you turn the screen upside down :-)08:33
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TeddHi. Does anyone know if there's 4-speaker-support for Linux?08:34
rad4ChristI've typed "sudo chown system_username /mnt/Server"08:34
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TeddI have four speakers and only two of them function.08:34
yorianalteroo: LOL, I mean this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13346908:34
yorianeldad: System>Preferences>Keyboard?08:35
eldadTedd: I'm not sure but I guess u can configure that using ALSA08:35
rad4ChristI get: chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/Server': Operation not permitted08:35
yorianif you're using gnome08:35
ompaulexxpert, you have to be able to, because the live CDs all offer different font sizes08:35
alterooyorian: oh. so.. what's so weird about the menu?08:36
exxpertompaul. Sure thing! when i installed, i got to choose between "VGA" and many other resolutions.. the first install i did when things died i got 1280x1024 in the whole install and startup,, then i messed it up and installed again and forgotten to choose 1280x1024, just VGA and now ots booting in 640x48008:36
rad4ChristAnyone have an idea?08:36
yorianalteroo: I attached some images in the topic :) it's hard to describe08:36
exxpertompaul: wierd stuff:-D08:36
alteroorad4Christ: have you tried putting sudo infront of the chown command?08:37
alterooyorian: oh i see08:37
modiHi, how can i increase font size in emacs?08:37
rad4ChristYEah08:37
rad4Christalteroo, YEs08:37
stianHey, I've got a big file I wanna put on a fat32 ext2 drive and I thought I'd use tar or similar to devide the file into several parts. How should the command look like? "tar -c someiso.iso" etc?08:37
ompaulexxpert, not a normal question, however for X that command I gave you works, well your asking and I know it must be possible I am just trying to find the syntax that impacts it - I can't even get a command yet - but hey it will come08:37
Kyralmodi: M-x customize and look around08:37
Teddeldad, I've been playing in ALSA forever but it hasn't helped08:37
KyralThat thing is huge...08:37
alteroorad4Christ: and it still doesnt believe you?08:37
alterooyorian: beats me08:38
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eldadyorian: using Gnome... I couldn't figure out how to use the the combination chars like in XP (`+E -> )08:38
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rad4ChristYep, but I think I know why.08:38
rad4ChristIt's FAT3208:38
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TeddDoes anyone have a fully-functioning 4-speaker system?08:38
alteroorad4Christ: you mean the drive is mounted readonly?08:38
CaNsAhow do i install my gfx card?08:38
yorianeldad: I also have difficulties with that stuff, also in Windows08:38
eldadTedd: sorry, don't know much...08:38
yorianalteroo: It comes and goes, strangethings, those computers ;)08:38
Tedd'salright08:39
exxpertompaul: I know..:-),,tricky,, thanks for helping me out..:-)08:39
TeddAnybody else have a fully-funtioning 4-speaker system on Ubuntu?08:39
alterooyorian: yup... that;s how they are08:39
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TeddI have a 4 speaker set with a subwoofer that came with the computer, but only the 2 speakers on ther right and subwoffer are working.08:39
eldadyorian: in XP it works out of the box (at least on my HP laptop)08:39
CaNsAactually my gfx card is installed08:39
CaNsAbut it wont go to 1024x 76808:39
eldadyorian: have u got any idea how is that functionality called?08:40
yorianeldad: not with me :), but here in Linux the (`+E -> ) doesn't work, I'll look for it too :)08:40
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yorianCaNsA: what type?08:40
yorianeldad: no idea08:40
JWNew to ubuntu.  How do I add a Financing section to the applications menu for gnucash?08:40
nickrudJW, use apps->system tools->menu editor08:41
yorianJW: install alacarte :)08:41
CaNsAvoodoo 308:41
ConfidentiaLhow did I make a file run in the terminal?08:41
lintAnyone with any experience installing Enlightenment?08:41
sixslapi just wanna know how to make ident work08:41
nickrudCaNsA, oooh, are we ever up to date :)08:42
CaNsAsixslap, forward port 11308:42
CaNsAlol nickrud08:42
nickrudCaNsA, I used one of those for a long time, what's the problem?08:42
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eldadyorian: thanx anyhow... BTW, do u know whether it is possible to start SKYPE as AWAY08:42
CaNsAi cant get it to display in 1024x76808:42
irvinCaNsA: what kind of video card do you have?08:42
rad4ChristOK08:42
yorianCaNsA: no08:42
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yorianhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d?highlight=%28voodoo%2908:43
CaNsAcheers08:43
yorianyw :)08:43
rad4Christalteroo, I have a VFAT partition on the HD. IF I go through Administration > Disks, I can add/edit files fine.08:43
eldadConfidentiaL: just write its name...08:43
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rad4Christalteroo, if I go to Places > COmputer, and browse there, it's read only08:43
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rad4ChristI need to make it read/write for every user locally.08:44
nickrudCaNsA, you probably need to do the FixVideoResolution link on that page first to get the proper vertrefresh & horizsync lines into xorg.conf08:44
refuze2loozeis there a log file X keeps which says the screen mode which it was running at?08:44
edward0ubuntu-artwork08:44
edward0:)08:44
ompaulexxpert, well you got me stumped, I have tried booting a live CD there a moment ago (if you have the ram for it qemu -cdrom file.iso) and I have gone through the menu nothing jumped out at me08:44
eldadhelp:  how should the keyboard be configured for  use of combination chars like in XP (`+E ->  and so on...)08:45
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yoriannickrud: he has a voodoo3, it's abit special :)08:45
yoriannickrud: the link that a gave him gives good info :)08:45
Ribs3dfx > *08:45
nickrudyorian, I wrote it :)08:45
yorianlol :p08:45
sixslapgrrrrrrrrrr08:45
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LjL-Dinnerrefuze2looze: /var/log/Xorg.log is the one i can think of. it lists a few things08:45
mzinzSynaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck08:46
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ompaulexxpert, if it was a dog it would have bitten us08:46
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ompaulexxpert, on the development version it works like this press F3 right at the beginning if that impacts an already older and installed system I have no idea08:47
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Angel_Dex_Is there anything in ubuntu that tells the CPU temp?08:47
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modiOK, M-x customize, then I guess I have to choose "Faces" and then ?:(08:47
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exxpertompaul: you dont have a clue on how to get a wireless pakage of keyboard and mice to work?,, just to shutdown, plug in USB and startup and its working?!08:48
refuze2loozeLjL-Dinner, thanks..08:48
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TeddHmmm08:48
exxpertompaul: on the dapper?08:48
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ompaulexxpert, if it is correctly build it should but I don't have one to test08:48
TeddThere doesn't seem to be anything on the forums about my problem.08:48
obscuriteHey all. I've been using Ubuntu happly for a while, until I deleted my top panel as an experiment. Now I can't quite figure out how to get it back.08:48
refuze2loozeand can i get xorg to display which screen mode it is currently running on?08:48
ompaulexxpert, shhh we don't talk about that here thats in #ubuntu+1 :)08:48
exxpertompaul: then i should move!,, i use it..*schhh*08:49
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mzinzSynaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck08:49
mzinzany ideas?08:49
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ompaulexxpert, go there and meet your kindred spirits08:49
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obscuriteThe desktop is a bit hard to use without any way to launch applications. Anyone have a good resource for figuring out how to get my top panel back? Or make my own panels?08:50
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nickrudmzinz, you could try the xorg-driver-synaptics package, if you haven't already08:51
TeddCan anybody reccomend an audio engine? Maybe that's it?08:51
LjLobscurite: under KDE, it's settings / desktop / panels. i can't imagine it would be too much different in gnome...?08:51
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mzinznickrud, i have..08:51
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ConfidentiaLeldad : I didnt get that... Just write its name??? I have an empty file, and I have filled in the "code" for my remote desktop connection, and I want that to be a file I can run...08:52
obscuriteLjL - Do you mean under the menus? I don't even have any menus anymore.08:52
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Matyas_zaGood night guys!08:52
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fekdoes anybody have the behavoiur with kopete on breezy to, when you send a message through icq, it will crash?08:52
nickrudmzinz, then you might try checking for the xorg development files08:52
LjLobscurite: can you launch the control panel or something using the right mouse button on the desktop?08:52
kyletxaghey guys, i just installed wildfire, a jabber server on breezy, but I dont know how to make the program start as a service.  Wildfire came with a daemon called wildfired, but I dont know where to put it...  anyone?08:53
CaNsAwhen doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:53
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CaNsAwhat chipset should i choose for a voodo 3?08:53
nickrudCaNsA, tdfx08:53
CaNsAjammin08:54
obscuriteLjL - I can launch gnome-control-center but it has no panels options08:54
mzinznickrud, ok08:54
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CaNsAnickrud08:54
CaNsAvideo card bus identifyer08:54
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eldadConfidentiaL: I'm afraid I don't understand what r u trying to do...08:54
nickrudmzinz, if you don't have any, x-window-system-dev will get you *all* you need08:54
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nickrudCaNsA, skip that, it should work automatically08:54
CaNsAkk08:55
Makarakiwant to mount a hda1 patition with ntfs data (windows)08:55
CaNsAkernal frame buffer?08:55
nickrudCaNsA, I mean, use the default just about everywhere08:55
CaNsAkk08:55
obscuriteC'mon you gnome experts - anyone know how I can get my top panel back after I "removed" it?08:55
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LjLobscurite: dunno, not being a gnome user i don't really know these interface details...08:55
MakarakiHi guys, grettings, I have a newbie question08:55
nickrudobscurite, right click the bottom panel (between the window list and window switcher) add new panel08:56
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obscuritenickrud - damn, i coulda sworn I looked for something like that. teehee. thanks.08:56
MakarakiI edit the fstab with the next /dev/hda1       /media/win      ntfs    user,noauto,ro,nls=utf8,uid=1000  0   008:56
ubuntu_obscurite: do you have the bottom panel left?08:56
modiKyral, are you there?08:56
obscuriteI managed to add a top panel08:56
nickrudobscurite, it's very hard to find the first time :)08:56
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mzinznickrud, its so weird.. i try to get the synaptics drivers and it tells me to check my repos because i dont have the newest version of xserver-xfree8608:57
Makarakiand I already created a directory08:57
beerockxswhen will gnome remember panel placement correctly?08:57
soundrayLooking for advice on compilation: I have a run-time critical application that compiles with gcc 3.4, but not with 4.0. I'd like a rough idea how difficult it is in general to port code to gcc 4. Anyone with any experience here?08:57
Kyralmodi: I'm ttyping up notes08:57
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Kyralis it critical?08:57
ConfidentiaLeldad : just make a file with contents I would like to run in the terminal when I click on it...08:57
obscuriteTHANKS LjL, nichrud, ubuntu_08:57
modinot really08:57
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LjLMakaraki: and the problem is?08:57
nickrudmzinz, could you post the complete error from an apt-get run to pastebin?08:58
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Kyralmodi: Sorry, I really have to study...08:58
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MakarakiLjL: it doesn't work08:58
Mrhey08:58
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LjLsoundray: i guess most of the times it's simply some stupid programming mistake that the programmers didn't notice... but on the other hand if it's a big application it might *base* itself on the old gcc behaviour08:58
LjLsoundray: can't you just compile it with gcc 3 and be done with it?08:59
mzinznickrud, ya08:59
LjLMakaraki: define "doesn't work", what happens when you mount it?08:59
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modiKyral, Good speed!08:59
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soundrayLjL, I could, but it's a memory-intensive thing (we chatted about it before) and I want the best available optimization for amd64.09:00
mzinznickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/906009:00
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LjLsoundray: how big is it, and how many dependencies it requires to compile? if it doesn't take ages to get it to compile, i'll give it a try09:00
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CaNsAnickrud, cheers mate09:01
NickGarveyapt-get update is failing after I first installed ubuntu?09:01
CaNsAthat works a treat09:01
nickrudCaNsA, yw09:01
LjLNickGarvey: failing like what?09:01
NickGarveyYou may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems.09:01
esacrunning flight-4 .. my alps touchpad acceleration and sensitivity is at its highest, yet it is still REALLY slow to move the mouse across the screen, any ideas ?09:01
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NickGarveyCouldn't stat sources package list09:01
eldadConfidentiaL: if I understand correctly u r trying to create some sort of a script - if so u should have the first line with the correct script language and where the interperter is loacated for example (for running a bash script):09:02
_jasonNickGarvey: did you run apt-get update09:02
arnoudhi all09:02
l0.. Ihave  question guys...09:02
NickGarveyyes09:02
soundrayLjL, code size is 94 MB. Its main dependency is libvtk.09:02
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eldadConfidentiaL: #! /bin/bash09:02
nickrudmzinz, what version of ubuntu are you using?09:02
LjLNickGarvey: perhaps it's a problem with the mirror. the US mirror seemed to have some problems some minutes ago09:02
MakarakiLjL: Firstly I typed mkdir /media/win and then I edit with sudo vim /etc/fstab and put in the last line /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,noauto,ro,uid=1000,nls=utf8 0 0 and also I reboot my machine and when i try to acces to win it doesn't show me anything09:02
NickGarveythats what I get when I run apt-get update09:02
mzinznickrud, breezy09:02
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NickGarveyit was happening last night too LjL09:02
ahlichanyone can help me w (another) nvidia driver problem? no tutorials or How-to's have worked for me because my Ubuntu is not recognizing my video card...09:02
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LjLsoundray: ugh. big. well, what app is it anyway?09:02
_jasonNickGarvey: and what did it do?  put errors and contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:02
mzinznickrud, ?09:02
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l0general question Iguess...     but.. why arn't things like.. make, and gcc installed by deafault? :|09:03
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LjLMakaraki: try "sudo mount /media/win" and tell me what error it gives (but use the pastebin if it's longer than one line!)09:03
NickGarveyhow would I do that if I don't have a gui?09:03
NickGarveyoh I know09:03
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NickGarveyapt-get update > ~/error.txt09:03
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NickGarvey?09:03
namecan anyone help me on setting up terminal09:03
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nmname: what type of terminal?09:03
Gottil0, who knows, but just install build-essential and they'll all be installed for you09:03
we2byhello09:03
_jasonl0: you can install them with build-essential package, average users don't need to compile is the reasoning I believe09:03
namethe terminal that you type commands stuff in09:03
NickGarveynope didn't work09:03
l0gotti: well, I manually installed everything, because I didn't know any better :/09:03
LjLNickGarvey: even better,  apt-get update 2>&1 >~/error.txt09:03
l0build-essential eh...09:03
soundrayLjL, it's a program that does registration with 3D images. I'm going to contact the original developer, but I'd like an idea first of how much of a burden I'd be putting on him.09:04
we2bywhy isn't there any info for the ubuntu test release on ubuntulinux.com?09:04
eldadConfidentiaL: afterwards u should give it execution permissions...09:04
l0how can I find all these magic names for package groups?09:04
NickGarveyokie09:04
arnoudthe time is getting near that windows is becoming my biggest fear09:04
nickrudmzinz, you need xorg-driver-synaptics I believe09:04
l0thanks jason/gotti09:04
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nickrudmzinz, breezy uses xorg, xfree86 is depreciated09:04
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soundrayLjL, thanks for the kind offer btw.09:04
Gottinp l009:04
NickGarveyit is only 7 lines in the file but the entire error is more than a screen long09:04
nickrudmzinz, you can check what you're using with xdpyinfo09:04
mzinznickrud, hang on09:04
l0is there some 'list' of these 'package group' keywordss, like 'build-essentials' ?09:05
MakarakiLjl: ejem ...sorry but I'm a newbie and also spanish what is pastebin?, no problem I will try09:05
we2bywhy isn't there any info for the ubuntu test release on ubuntulinux.com?09:05
LjLMakaraki: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:05
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mzinznickrud, well, all of the synaptics how-tos say to get xserver-xfree or whatever... and qsynaptics ( the synaptics settings prog ) says i dont have drivers install09:05
NickGarveywhoa09:05
NickGarveywhoa09:05
obscuriteI am ashamed for having ever doubted gnome. Hehe09:05
NickGarveyno internet I guess?09:06
yggdrasil__ok guys im trying to make clean but i keep getting g++: no such file or directory09:06
nickrudmzinz, yeah, the switch to xorg came recently. The instructions should work for either09:06
MakarakiLjL: thnks09:06
thegladiatorwe seem to have big crows these days 71109:06
eldadyorian: regarding the chars comb - a possible solution is using unicode - ctrl+shift+unicode - ex: ctrl+shift+e7 -> 09:06
mzinznickrud, whats my next step..?09:06
thegladiatorsorry crowd09:06
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nickrudmzinz, try apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics09:06
NickGarveyLjL: would the problem be no internet maybe?09:06
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eldadyorian: not the best but a start09:06
LjLMakaraki: are you aware there is an #ubuntu-es channel? (i mean, you can stay here as long as you like of course, i'm just telling you so you know)09:06
NickGarveyyup that was it09:06
NickGarveynot sure why it didn't auto detect09:06
LjLNickGarvey: oh :)09:06
NickGarveytried to ftp it over to this computer and suddenly it didn't work09:07
NickGarveyheh09:07
NickGarveyalright thanks09:07
nickrudmzinz, then read whatever's in /usr/share/doc/xserver-driver-synaptics09:07
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chrome-buntuGuys, whats the best way to get totem to handle the usual codecs out there?09:07
LjL!tell chrome-buntu about w32codecs09:07
nickrudmzinz, er, /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics09:07
thegladiatorchrome-buntu, install totem-xine also besides what Ljl just told09:07
_jasonchrome-buntu: w32codecs and totem-xine09:07
NickGarveyhow would I make it autoconfig eth0 on boot then?09:07
yggdrasil__ok guys im trying to make clean but i keep getting g++: no such file or directory09:07
NickGarveyall other distros I have used did that automatically09:08
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nickrudyggdrasil, sudo apt-get install build-essential09:08
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LjLNickGarvey: well, edit /etc/network/interface i guess... but if you have DHCP, it should work by itself09:08
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soundrayLjL, so you're saying that in general, well-designed programs should be easy to port, correct?09:08
chrome-buntuthanks guys09:08
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linux_learneris there a howto for upgrading the ubuntu kernel09:08
NickGarveyI do have dhcp, which is why I was confused09:08
yggdrasil__nickrud allready the newest version09:08
LjLsoundray: i'd say so09:08
linux_learnerare there any special tips, or does apt take care of it09:08
LjLNickGarvey: well, i would give it another chance (i.e. wait for next reboot) before i start to worry09:09
dutchhi linux_learner09:09
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esacrunning flight-4 .. my alps touchpad acceleration and sensitivity is at its highest, yet it is still REALLY slow to move the mouse across the screen, any ideas ?09:09
nickrudyggdrasil, what are you making clean??09:09
linux_learnerhi dutch09:09
soundrayLjL, grazie.09:09
yggdrasil__nickrud vdr install09:09
NickGarveyLjL: the computer is going to be a server so it won't have a monitor, I want to be able to hit the button and have it start the ssh server so I can use it09:09
LjLsoundray: prego :)09:09
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soundray:009:09
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soundray:)09:09
NickGarveyLjL: some thing happened last night also, no internet on boot09:09
yggdrasil__nickrud if i type g++ i get cmd not found09:09
dutchlinux_learner, yeah, just wasted a couple of hours trying to get an old webcam to work09:09
LjLNickGarvey: yeah, i've got a computer like that09:09
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linux_learnerah ic09:10
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LjLNickGarvey: does your IP actually change? cause if it doesn't, you could just hardcode it -- though the best thing would surely be to find out why DHCP isn't working09:10
namei can't find the terminal in ubuntu09:10
yggdrasil__ahh i think i got it ive got g++-4.0 in /usr/bin09:10
nickrudyggdrasil__, I get 'no input files'09:10
linux_learnerso does apt take care of kernel upgrades?09:10
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MakarakiLjL: mtab error, it sais that it is already mounted in mtab... I don't understand nothing now09:10
NickGarveynope, it is  always 192.168.2.3709:10
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dutchlinux_learner, and I'll bet if I try to install with the cd in this XP box, it'll say something about being too old :)09:10
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mzinznickrud, sorry was afk for a sec.  it says i have newest ver. when i apt-get... should i edit  /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics09:10
NickGarveythis has happened on other computers using ubuntu09:10
yggdrasil__and i get not input files when i do g++-4.009:10
NickGarveyI had damn small linux on the server before and it worked fine09:10
LjLMakaraki: hm, try "sudo umount /media/win" and then try again09:10
nmif it is a server, why are you using dhcp09:11
nickrudmzinz, no, read the docs in that dir, it should tell you what you need to do09:11
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NickGarveynm: because it needs a router to connect to the internet09:11
linux_learnerwell dutch sometimes ya need to recompile the kernel09:11
mzinznickrud, ok09:11
NickGarveynm: its a web/ftp/ssh server09:11
linux_learnerbut with hotplugging, it shouldnt be necissary09:11
nmnickgarvey: set up a default gateway?09:11
nmheh09:11
yggdrasil__nickrud i kinda just cheated and cp /usr/bin/g++-4.0 /usr/bin/g++ and it seems to have worked09:11
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LjLNickGarvey: well, then you could probably just edit /etc/network/interfaces and add "iface eth0 inet static <newline> address <ip>"09:12
dutchlinux_learner, that's way beyond my knowledge base09:12
yggdrasil__nickrud should i be worried aobut that down the road ?09:12
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LjLNickGarvey: can you paste your current /etc/network/interfaces on the pastebin please09:12
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NickGarveyok09:12
nickrudyggdrasil__, probably :)09:12
Gnumannen!apt-get09:12
ubotuapt-get is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto09:12
yggdrasil__nicrud hahah09:12
_jasonyggdrasil__: installing build-essential should have created g++09:12
yggdrasil__hmmm09:12
yggdrasil___jason ill remove and reinstall i guesse09:12
_jasonyggdrasil__: apt-get install --reinstall build-essential09:13
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ConfidentiaLok, I had to disable my onboard sound to get past the loading hotplug subsystem. But now, after a while, it gets boring wothout sound. Is there any1 who knows how to fix it so that I can have my sound back?09:13
linux_learnerdutch, hotplugging is the auto detection of hardware09:13
yggdrasil___jason i still get cmd not found after i performed that09:14
soundrayConfidentiaL, throw some money at the problem, buy a USB sound card.09:14
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linux_learneras to recompiling the kernel, just follow a howto09:14
_jasonyggdrasil__: weird09:14
NickGarveyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/906109:14
mzinznickrud, i can't find my config files for xorg-driver-synaptics... i just reinstalled it and still no.. and when i 'which xorg-driver-synaptics' i get nothing.09:14
LjLsoundray: would you advise an USB card over a plain PCI one?09:14
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BurgworkConfidentiaL, likely hotplug is loading the wrong driver. You might need to blacklist a certain driver to get it to work09:14
yggdrasil___jason it seems i have g++-4.0 though09:14
eaxWHat do I need to enable in Ubuntu to get my firewall and Gaim to show in the system tray? ALl of a sudden, neither is being displayed and the settings to do so are active in the applications themselves?09:14
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nickrudmzinz, of course. You need to edit xorg.conf to enable synaptics tablet.09:14
MakarakiLjL: now it works, the next steep is to try if rebooting the ubuntu, fstab should make the mount for me isn't it?09:14
mzinznickrud, ohh nvm thanks09:14
esacrunning flight-4 .. my alps touchpad acceleration and sensitivity is at its highest, yet it is still REALLY slow to move the mouse across the screen, any ideas ?09:15
dutchlinux_learner, i plugged the webcam in and re-booted...09:15
LjLMakaraki: it should in theory09:15
dutchlsusb shows the webcam there...09:15
lnx_is there anyway to give a user premanent root privledges?09:15
NickGarveyLjL: my router has dhcp enabled incase that wasn't obvious09:15
linux_learnerand dutch ?09:15
ConfidentiaLBurgwork : Do you know how to do that?09:15
Kyrallnx_: no09:15
soundrayLjL, I've had good (read: plug and play) experiences with USB sound. But if I knew that someone wasn't afraid of opening the case, I'd still suggest PCI over USB.09:15
Kyrallnx_: if there was we wouldn't ttell you09:15
nickrudmzinz, a useful tool is dpkg -L xorg-driver-synaptics (or any other package)09:15
MakarakiLjL: I will try and tnanks for your help09:15
mzinznickrud, wheres the config file? i see files inside that dir but none of them say config09:15
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BurgworkConfidentiaL, sorry, no. I would google the make of your soundcard and ubuntu and see if you get a hit09:15
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KyralMore people with Root power on a system is like more countries with the Bomb09:15
soundrayConfidentiaL, what sound chip is on your board?09:16
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nickrudmzinz, no, the config file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Your howto should be adaptable to that file09:16
lnx_Kyral: do you know why when i am prompted for root password and i put it in, the application won't launch (i.e. wifi radar, users and groups, etc.)09:16
nmNickGarvey, I placed an amendment09:16
nmon that thread09:16
nmobviously you'll need to replace the address and gatewayt09:16
Kyralubotu: tell lnx_ about RootSudo09:16
mzinznickrud, shit i gtg ill be back in a min, thank you though09:16
nm*gateway09:16
LjLNickGarvey: well, your file looks fine to me. if you aren't the kind of guy who can't do without going to the root of the problem, then i'd simply make it use a static IP :)09:16
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we2bywhy isn't there any info for the ubuntu test release on ubuntulinux.com?09:16
Kyralwe2by: Because you are not supposed to use it yet?09:17
_keroppi_I'm trying to install various versions of the fglrx driver, (8.20, 8.21, 8.22) on various versions of the kernel, (2.6.10-5-386  2.6.11-1-686  2.6.12-9-686  2.6.15-14-686  2.6.15-15-686  2.6.15-16-686), and every time I either get a kernel panic in ohci_1394 or ehci_hdc, and when I remove those modules, it still doesn't work, with this log: http://pastebin.com/565544 -- it seems to be looking for all kinds of /dev/dri/card[0-255]  devices...09:17
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LjLsoundray: oh, ok :) well opening the case isn't that hard ;)09:17
NickGarveyalright, I'll do that for now, I'd like to find out whats wrong, but I'll use google for now09:17
NickGarveythanks a lot09:17
ConfidentiaLsoundray : Realtek i think...09:17
Kyral!dapper09:17
ubotudapper is, like, totally, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it09:17
Burgworkwe2by, because it is not recommended for average use, but something could be done better09:17
lisklanyone know how to create & mount an iso image so you can write to it09:17
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_keroppi_I am remembering to recompile the kernel module for each kernel version, and I am installing the driver with the ati installer.09:17
soundrayConfidentiaL, is it "high definition audio" or similar?09:17
LjLNickGarvey: well, one thing - does it *always* fail to get the address from DHCP, or it works sometimes?09:17
Burgwork_keroppi_, what are you trying to do?09:17
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_keroppi_Burgwork: Get the driver to simply work09:18
ConfidentiaLsoundray : what's that?09:18
Burgwork_keroppi_, which driver?09:18
yggdrasil___jason well i just cp g++-4.0 g++ to get it working ... stupid but its all i can think of09:18
_keroppi_Burgwork: fglrx09:18
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Burgwork_keroppi_, and wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto didn't work?09:18
_keroppi_Burgwork: Nope09:18
Burgwork_keroppi_, what card do you have?09:18
thierry_french ?09:18
NickGarveyit works sometimes, I used dhcpclient to connect09:19
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soundrayConfidentiaL, it's a new audio thing. You would probably know if you had a card like that. We had a guy here recently who had similar trouble to yours, and his solution was blacklisting.09:19
NickGarveyapt-get update worked fine after09:19
fekthis channel is useless09:19
soundrayConfidentiaL, s/card/soundchip/09:19
obscuriteWhat's currently the best resource for upgrading your own (more recent) kernel? My notebook's suspend doesn't seem too happy with 2.6.12.09:19
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_keroppi_Burgwork: Radeon 9600 (M10), it works perfectly in debian on kernel 2.6.12, 2.6.11 and 2.6.1009:19
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nmnickgarvey: if your box is a server as you've said09:19
nmyou should use static ip anyway09:19
nmeasier for port forwarding09:19
Burgwork_keroppi_, I have exactly the 9600xt. What error are you getting?09:19
LjLNickGarvey: well my guess then is that your router probably implements DHCP in a way that the current version of the client doesn't like too much...09:19
thierry_french ?09:20
ekphi09:20
NickGarveyyeah, but dhcp gives it the same ip everytime anyway09:20
NickGarveyalright09:20
nickrudyggdrasil__, I'd remove that file you copied, then create a soft link to bring your filesystem into compliance with standard policy09:20
LjLNickGarvey: (by the way, unrelated, but for a server setup, i would use Debian=09:20
_keroppi_Burgwork: They tend to vary, if they're not kernel panics.09:20
NickGarveyI'll just use static09:20
NickGarveyI tried debian before and it didn't work well09:20
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ekpI am having a problem installing Cross Over office09:20
djphi. can anyone tell me how i can go about viewing system messages under my e-mail client, evolution?09:20
nmdon't use debian for servers09:20
nmheh09:20
_keroppi_Burgwork: Um, it's hard to remember exactly, but if you look at the xorg.log at this paste: http://pastebin.com/56554409:20
amphi!tell thierry_ about fr09:20
soundrayConfidentiaL, look, ubotu:09:20
nmgentoo or fedora core 4 is the way to go09:20
lisklanyone know how to create & mount an iso image so you can write data files  to it?09:20
NickGarveynot really sure what happened but I said forget it09:20
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soundray!forumes 7518109:20
ubotusoundray: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:20
_keroppi_Burgwork: It doesn't say anything, but X-windows exits soon after it launches09:20
soundray!forums 7518109:20
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NickGarveyI'm not smart enough to compile gentoo yet09:20
LjLnm: aw, come on, debian is fine for servers09:20
ubotuForums: Thread 75181 is: Kernel oops on FS Amilo M3438G - Ubuntu Forums09:20
nmjust follow the instructions from the manual09:21
Burgwork_keroppi_, ok, too odd. You might want to ask on teh forums09:21
ConfidentiaL!tell me about soundchip09:21
ekpget error message: can not convert /c to Unix path09:21
Burgwork_keroppi_, oh, and file a bug09:21
nmljl: i'm testing out ubuntu for kicks, and as a server as well09:21
nmbut from what i've seen over the years09:21
LjLNickGarvey: well i don't think ubuntu will be too bad as a server anyway09:21
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amphiLjL: debian is fine for desktop09:21
nmwhile debian has a decent packaging system09:21
ConfidentiaL!tell me about sound card09:21
nmthe security updates are few and far between09:21
LjLamphi: i didn't say it wasn't, i just said it was fine for servers09:21
nmthat just isn't good for servers09:21
_keroppi_Burgwork: I'm going to try again, and document exactly what happens09:21
WilsonWe are the Berg.  You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile.  :-)09:21
ConfidentiaL!tell me about soundcard09:21
NickGarveywell if it works it works distribution wise09:21
fangoriousi have an lvm group with my / and swap partitions on it that i'd like to resize to make room for dapper09:21
thierry_merci amphi09:21
ConfidentiaL!tell me about sound09:21
soundrayConfidentiaL, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75181.html ; it tells you about blacklisting as well as a similar prob.09:22
nmnickgarvey: perhaps, but with production servers simply 'work'ing isn't always enough09:22
amphithierry_: de rien ;)09:22
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LjLnm: uhm, honestly, i hadn't heard complains about debian's security before09:22
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nmljl: live under a rock? :)09:22
NickGarveyI'm a 15 year old messing around, not a big problem for me09:22
soundrayConfidentiaL, don't prod the bot like that btw, do a '/msg ubotu sound' or similar09:22
ConfidentiaLsoundray : thx09:22
NickGarveyeven if I was cracked not like I keep anything important on there09:22
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amphinm: are you aware of outstanding security issues in debian stable?09:22
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nmamphi: i'm not running it at the moment, or interested09:23
nmsee above09:23
LjLnm: perhaps, but among the things i've heard people say about debian, bad security is definitely not included... at least it wasn't until now09:23
chrish01python-dev package isnt downloading right from this server ... http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.4/python2.4-dev_2.4.2-1_i386.deb09:23
drcurlWOW, what a difference 512 megs of RAM makes instead of 256, Ubuntu is much faster and snapier now :D09:23
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NickGarveyLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/906309:23
soundrayNickGarvey, ever heard about zombie networks? You don't want to be part of one, even if you're just messing about.09:23
NickGarveyLjL: is that what it should be?09:23
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Burgworkchrish01, please try archive.ubuntu.com. the us archive sometimes has issues09:23
amphinm: I see nothing above *shrug*09:23
nmljl: i'm not directly suggesting that the security is 'bad', but when vulnerabilities are released, debian has one of the longest wait times09:24
nmfor patches09:24
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Burgworknm, this is not the place to discuss debian security, thanks09:24
soundrayNickGarvey, add the netmask and gateway lines from nm's repost on pastebin.09:24
chrish01Burgwork: yea, just wanted to inform who ever i could09:24
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cowbudcan you share a printer with windows via cups without samba?09:24
nmburgwork: scroll up and pointlessly say that to others who were asking me questions09:24
nmthanks.09:24
Burgworknm, sorry, didn't see them09:25
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NickGarveysoundray: where is his repost?09:25
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soundrayNickGarvey, 906209:25
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nmcowbud: maybe with proprietary software, but windows talks SMB, and samba is what enables linux to 'talk' SMB09:25
LjLNick: no, that's not enough, add a line saying "netmask 255.255.255.0" and another "gateway your-router-ip"09:25
nmas it were09:25
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LjLNickGarvey: that was for you09:25
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ekpBurgwork: who in chat should I ask about a Cross Over Office installation issue09:25
NickGarveyalright, thank you09:25
nysosymHI there :D09:25
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NickGarveyand change address from 10.0.0.150 to 192.168.2.37 right?09:26
Burgworkekp, sorry, no idea09:26
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djpcan anyone tell me how i can go about viewing system messages with evolution?09:26
nexushey, im having prom09:26
nexus/etc/wlan/shared: line 91: /etc/wlan/shared.*: No such file or directory09:26
soundrayNickGarvey, not for the gateway, unless your server is also the gateway.09:26
nysosymare any developers from ubuntu here?09:26
nexusi get this error when starting wlan09:27
nmsoundray: when i modified his pastebin, .150 was the address of the server in question09:27
nmnickgarvey: change 10.0.0.150 to the desired ip address of your server09:27
nmand 10.0.0.1 to your gateway (router)09:27
NickGarveyalright09:27
NickGarveythanks09:27
NickGarveylets try a reboot then09:28
moritz_i have a problem installing ubuntu 5.1 on a cebob notebook. After installation and first boot up system freezes straight before hw_random driver is loaded without error message. a likewise error is during bootup with live cd: freezes at hotplug load09:28
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moritz_is there some connection09:29
djpis a log created anywhere, of an initial install?09:29
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moritz_where does ubuntu place logs?09:30
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lakcaj/var/log09:30
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soundraymoritz_, /var/log/ -- e.g. /var/log/syslog09:30
moritz_ok one moment, ill boot knoppix livecd to view log09:30
soundraymoritz_, it could be an APIC related thing.09:30
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lakcajdjp, try /var/log/installer?09:31
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nysosymi user Gnome X-Chat is it possible to have colored Nicknames? sry for my terrible english ^^09:31
whatwhathello09:31
franky123i've got a question about the desktops. i'm using regular ubuntu (gnome) but i was wondering what happened if i installed the kubuntu and xubuntu packages? someone told me that i can choose which one to use on the login screen if i have all 3 installed ... is that true?09:31
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Big`Hadesi fount this site09:31
Big`Hadesubuntu mirror09:31
djplakcaj, thanks09:31
Big`Hadeshttp://www.septy.web1000.com/index.htm09:31
Big`Hadesbut i don't know09:32
Big`Hadesthe version09:32
soundrayfranky123, that's the way I've got it set up here. No problems so far.09:32
nmfranky123: i havn't used kubuntu, but normally that is the case, yes, if you have more than one window manager installed, your XDM/GDM screen will allow you to choose09:32
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soundrayfranky123, the packages are called kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop09:32
onyxmorning..09:32
franky123nm, soundray: great, thanks.09:32
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eldadyorian: in case u r still interested in the chars issue check out http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/238 (it worked for me)09:33
lakcajnysosym, try #xchat09:33
djpis it possible to view system messages with my mail client?09:33
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purpleheart_USMCI just got done watching the transporter 2.  great sequel09:34
eldad!tell me about sound09:34
djpi used to use local delivery and point it to /var/mail/username or something like that under debian09:34
soundraydjp, it depends on the mail client... but why?09:34
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djpsoundray, i wanted to be notified of any system messages. i am using evolution09:35
moritz_which log in var/log/installer could contain important information about instaallation problems09:35
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NickGarveystatic worked like a charm, thank a lot guys09:36
nmyes yes, no problem09:36
nmtoo bad dhcp isn't working09:36
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rambo3how do i install bootsplash in ubuntu09:36
soundraydjp, if it was possible in Debian, I'd say it is possible in Ubuntu.09:37
soundraydjp, you could set up a cron job to email your syslog at regular intervals.09:37
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gidgeyhaving trouble installing the graphics driver for my Intel 810 adapter09:38
gidgeyi have the i810_drv.so file on my desktop09:38
gidgeydon't know what to do with it09:38
gidgeyor where to find support information09:38
TonyB2006the installer is still freezing for me :`(09:38
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soundraymoritz_, try /var/log/installer/syslog09:39
rambo3why do you have it on Desktop?09:39
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^Ocean^anyone have any experiance with the lircd_modules package ?09:39
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akcomI just installed mod_python (apt-get install libapache2-mod-python) yet when I test it by going to http://localhost/test.py, it simply prompts me to download the file, any suggestions?09:39
moritz_is there a german ubuntu help chan?09:40
^Ocean^akcom, restart apache09:40
gidgeyi downloaded it from the fairlite.co.uk website09:40
soundray!de09:40
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de09:40
moritz_!de09:40
^Ocean^akcom, and make sure u have the config file setup right09:40
gidgeyi found wget instructions, but the last command doesn't work09:40
akcomk09:40
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miveczto compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17..09:40
miveczjust install al the e17 devs it is not so big...(where  to download it09:40
mivecz?09:40
GnumannenIt looks like I have some basic fonts missing, how can I get them?09:40
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MadpilotGnumannen: which basic fonts?09:41
Phazemanhi all. what is the name of the system control panel application ?09:41
miveczto compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17..09:41
miveczjust install al the e17 devs it is not so big...(where  to download it09:41
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mivecz?09:41
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nickrudgidgey, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose the i810 driver (it's already in X, you don't need the one on your desktop)09:42
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joanverdei need to partition, mount and make a fs on a /dev/sda09:42
GnumannenMadpilot: 'fixed' for example...09:42
joanverdesomeone?09:42
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nmjoanverde: fdisk /dev/sda#09:42
MadpilotGnumannen: hmm, Ubuntu ships with several monospaced (fixed) fonts - what's not working?09:42
akcom^Ocean^, now it just hangs when I execute the apache script09:42
BergcubeGnumannen~  How about telling Synaptic to reinstall ubuntu-desktop?  I cannot /promise/ it'll work, but it is the first idea I get..........09:43
nmerr09:43
nmfdisk /dev/sda09:43
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akcom(the browser just says it's waiting for localhost)09:43
nmuse 'n' to create a partition09:43
picattahow do i copy a folder in xterm?09:43
nmthen 'w' to write to the partition table09:43
joanverdenm ok09:43
nmthen mke2fs -j09:43
GnumannenMadpilot: this is dapper flight 4 server, they have messed it up some here09:43
^Ocean^akcom, somethin else going on then.. not sure ...09:43
akcomhrm09:43
nmmke2fs -j /dev/sda#09:43
nickruddjp, if you haven't already found an answer, you may need to install a mail server (breezy doesn't come with one)09:43
nmthe # is the partition number09:43
nmand then09:43
nmmount /dev/sda# /mountpoint09:43
joanverden?09:43
MadpilotGnumannen: if it's Dapper, file a bug - it is the development release09:43
miveczto compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17.. where to get these package?09:43
nmn, yes, within fdisk09:43
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obsvuugjdoes anyone know a cool Rayman 1-like game ?09:44
soundraypicatta, 'cp -r'. Also, listen to ubotu:09:44
soundray!tell picatta about cli09:44
GnumannenMadpilot: I have already been told that they know about it09:44
joanverdenm mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,09:44
joanverde       missing codepage or other error09:44
djpnickrud, ah... thanks. that is my problem then. cheers for that09:44
nickruddjp, yw09:44
nmjoanverde: did you do mke2fs -j /dev/sda1?09:44
nmfirst09:44
GnumannenMadpilot: The solution is just package away, but I can not remember which one.09:45
MadpilotGnumannen: I don't know much about terminal fonts, just the desktop ones - sorry09:45
joanverdenm no09:45
nmdo that and then mount it09:45
joanverdenm I want it fat3209:45
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miveczto compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17.. where to get these package?09:46
joanverdenm ok09:46
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TonyB2006argh!09:46
Storkis there any way to configure my sound (i/o port) setup on ubuntu?09:46
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nmjoanverde: use windows to format the partition then09:46
nmnow that you've created it09:46
joanverdenm: windows has crashed09:47
nmah09:47
Storkfigures09:47
soundrayStork, the I/O port is usually something that the BIOS determines.09:47
nmsoundray: on a PnP card that is certainly true09:47
Storksoundray, i remember there was a tool i used but i can't remember if that was for windows only09:47
obsvuugj!tell obsvuugj about blender09:47
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nmStork: otherwise, you can supply an i/o to use as a module option09:47
Storkit's sound built into my mobo.. realtek ac9709:47
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obscuriteHey guys, I can't find any kernel sources newer than 2.6.12 in my apt-cache search. I'm working off of KernelBuildpackageHowto - anyone have a suggestion for a latest kernel and where to find it?09:47
GTXhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13422309:48
GTXPlease can you read this09:48
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Kyralobscurite: kernel.org?09:48
nickrudobscurite, kernel.org09:48
joanverdenm: made the  mke2fs -j /dev/sda109:48
Storklol09:48
obscuriteOkay, kernel.org. Fine, but ... oh nevermind. :P I'll figure it out.09:48
nmjoanverde: that creates an ext3 filesystem09:48
joanverdewhat kind of sys did I make?09:48
joanverdeok09:48
obscuriteTHANKS kyral, nickrud.09:48
l0ah, they're called meta-packages. sigh. I feel so out of the loop09:49
joanverdenm: so now I can format it somehow?09:49
Storkis there any way to configure my sound (i/o port) setup on ubuntu? it's built into my mobo.. realtek 9709:49
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nickrudobscurite, yeah, it's suboptimal, but you won't find anything newer in breezy09:49
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soundrayStork, read nm's answer ^^09:49
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MadpilotStork: assuming it's turned on in your system BIOS, it should work in Ubuntu - I've got an AC'97 chip as well09:49
speyerUnable to get exclusive lock   whats this mean ?09:50
Kyralspeyer: means something else is using itt (Apt-get yes?)09:50
Storkwell i want to change what the ports do, because i have two sets of speakers09:50
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Scarboroughmy keyboard sometimes stops working... anybody else that has that problem?09:50
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Madpilotspeyer: with apt-get or Synaptic? It probably means you left Synaptic running while you tried to use apt-get09:50
nickrudspeyer, either another program is using whatever's locked, or you have a spurious lock. More info is needed09:50
speyerKyral hell yeah ;) cheers its the lock in use yeah :))09:50
StorkMadpilot, well i want to change what the ports do, because i have two sets of speakers09:51
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speyerthanks all09:51
Kyralspeyer: yah you can't run more than one instance of Apt-Get at once (Apt-Cache you can)09:51
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pianoboy3333how do I find out what my network IP address is?09:52
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NickGarveyifconfig09:52
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pianoboy3333ah, thx09:52
NickGarvey:)09:52
franky123ubotu, tell franky123 about dapperdrake09:53
C_J_ProI would like to see the ability to put the IP address on GDM09:53
nmjoanverde: try running fdisk again09:53
nmhit 't' for change type09:53
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nmand 'c' for vfat09:53
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MadpilotStork: sorry, I'm not sure how to do that - more BIOS settings, maybe?09:53
nm(though it may be different, i havn't looked at it in awhile09:53
nysosymbrb (restart)09:53
nm)09:53
nmjoanverde: and then try mkfs -vfat /dev/sda109:53
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nmerr09:54
nmmkfs -t vfat09:54
nmsorry09:54
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joanverdenm: ok09:54
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MalachiIs it just me, or is the Linux version of Nvu a little buggy?09:55
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joanverdenm: mkfs.ext2: invalid fragment size - at09:55
MadpilotMalachi: it's a WYSIWYG, aren't they all buggy? :P09:55
joanverdeok09:55
andrea_sasaasasasaas09:55
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nmjoanverde: try mkfs.vfat /dev/sda#09:55
MalachiMadpilot:Hm....09:56
joanverdenm :mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)09:56
nm(where # is the number of the partition)09:56
joanverdemkfs.vfat: /dev/sda contains a mounted file system.09:56
curley_sueHELP - does anybody know how to start SKYPE as AWAY (automatically)?09:56
andrea_di cosa parlate?09:56
nmsorry, unmount it first09:56
nmhehe09:56
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andrea_parlate solo di Ubuntu?09:56
soundray!it09:56
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:56
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andrea_ok bye09:56
joanverdenm: hiw-to unmount?09:57
joanverdehow09:57
relachscan you help me to re-install the Audio-Recorder? It does not work correctly anymore09:57
nmwow09:57
hannjeumount09:57
nmjoanverde: umount09:57
speyerany ideea why the sound on mplayer its interrupted   ?09:57
joanverdeok09:57
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joanverdeumount /dev/sda#09:57
hannjeif you want to unmount a cdrom type eject09:57
joanverdenm: done09:57
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soundrayspeyer, run mplayer -ao help and try different ao options (audio output)09:57
nmso try the mkfs.vfat again09:57
yggdrasil__does anyone here knwo about dfb++ on ubuntu ?09:58
joanverdenm: done, seemed to work, now I need to see it somehow09:58
nmjoanverde: mount it again09:58
soundraycurley_sue, timing out is not good enough?09:58
Madpilot!mount09:58
joanverdeok09:58
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f09:58
joanverdenm: on /mnt, /home ot whereever?09:58
lakcajspeyer, try with -ao alsa -vo xv09:58
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nmjoanverde: just make sure you're not mounting it on a directory you're already using09:59
joanverdenm: mounted on home09:59
joanverdeok09:59
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nmmkdir /mnt/windows ; mount /dev/sda# /mnt/windows09:59
nysosymre09:59
nmmight be a good idea09:59
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nmafter you umount /home09:59
joanverdenm: good09:59
speyerlakcaj it does use alsa but not xv its use X11 even if i tell mplayer to, no ideea why09:59
curley_suesoundray: I'm not sure I understand...10:00
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soundraycurley_sue, you can go to Tools-Options and set the time until it shows you as "Away".10:01
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joanverdenm: mounted and ready10:01
joanverdehow do I see it now?10:01
nmjoanverde: what do you mean 'see' it?10:01
nmif it is mounted, you're seeing it10:01
nmat wherever you have it mounted10:01
nmif you mean list the contents, you can do that with 'ls'10:01
nmbut since you've newly created it10:01
joanverdenm: in the gui10:01
nmthere won't be much there ;)10:01
rambo3can someone post line from menu.lst after kernel : something like vesfb ~10:02
nmjoanverde: use your favorite file manager program10:02
franky123joanverde: go to nautilus?10:02
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joanverdeis that part of gnome10:02
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relachshas anyone experience with K3B?10:02
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soundrayrelachs, a bit.10:02
Madpilotjoanverde: Places menu --> Home - the app that launches is Nautilus10:02
vlauzumsquick question: every time i switch wifi networks i have to restart to get it to work, is there a terminal command that refreshes my net settings or something like that?10:02
joanverdesee it now10:02
GTXIf you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13422310:03
joanverdethanks very much10:03
GTXI need help!10:03
GTX:D10:03
achew22_can someone help me with an apt-get question10:03
soundrayvlauzums, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart10:03
soundrayvlauzums, and consider the ifplug package10:03
vlauzumssoundray: thank you10:03
vlauzumsifplug?10:03
soundray!info ifplug10:03
nickrudachew22_, ask, maybe you'll get lucky ;)10:04
vlauzums!info ifplug10:04
curley_suesoundray: thanx, but somehow it does not work...10:04
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relachssoundray, first it said it needs cdrdao, so installed the package with success. Now it says this: http://pastebin.com/56564110:04
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soundray!info ifplugd10:04
ubotuifplugd: (A configuration daemon for ethernet devices), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.26-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 268 kB10:04
soundraysry vlauzums10:04
rambo3comon it doesnt take you that much time : sudo cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep ves10:04
MuLLeRhello10:04
vlauzumsnp.10:04
speyerdoes anyone know why my mplayer use x11 instead of xv ? even if i tell mplayer to use xv , when i play the file its still use x11 :(10:04
soundraycurley_sue, it waits until you are inactive (ie. not using the mouse and keyboard)10:04
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relachsin the "K3B Setup" i do not find anything related to the thing i need to fix10:05
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nickrudspeyer, try xdpyinfo | grep XVideo ; that will tell you if you at least have xv support10:05
achew22_will someone look at http://pastebin.com/565644 ?10:05
soundrayrelachs, are you on breezy?10:05
relachssoundray, yes10:05
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curley_suesoundray: well, I wanted something that did not need me off the computer... thanx anyway10:06
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soundrayrelachs, strange, I used to have to set cdrdao permissions, but never on breezy.10:06
moonunithey ive got an error running update, 'the following problems were found on your system'10:06
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speyernickrud output " XVideo10:06
speyer "10:06
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soundraycurley_sue, it's something you can ask Skype support.10:07
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NCLifei got a problem with my ipod. It mount well but when i try to safe some songs into my computer, it disconnects after some while and cant mount it again. I must pull it out and reconnect it10:07
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babyboyHey where can i get some ubuntu themes?10:07
achew22_can someone help me with an apt problem? http://pastebin.com/56564410:07
gnomefreakachew22_: in your source.list file do you have a dcrom repo enabled?10:07
achew22_gnomefreak,  I do10:07
ricardo_how can use ascii characters in linux?10:07
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achew22_gnomefreak,  should I turn it off?10:07
rambo3you are using the right now10:07
gnomefreakachew22_: if you want those packages you need to put a # infront of it and take the # away from the rest of the repos10:08
speyernickrud its that ok ?10:08
we2bycan u enable window shadow on ubuntu?10:08
relachssoundray, hmmm... it says its highly recommended... what should i do now?10:08
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babyboycan anyone tell me where i can get some ubuntu themes??10:08
Burgworkbabyboy, art.gnome.org or art.ubuntu.com10:08
soundrayrelachs, I'll look at my setup here, give me three minutes.10:09
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gnomefreakbabyboy: try art.gnome.org or www.gnome-look.com10:09
curley_suesoundray: u r write only it does not appear in their manual/FAQ/google... (as far as I tried)10:09
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babyboythanks, Burgwork10:09
relachsok10:09
bjornkrihey hey10:09
nickrudspeyer, phone10:09
vlauzums!info ifplugd10:09
ubotuifplugd: (A configuration daemon for ethernet devices), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.26-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 268 kB10:09
Madpilot!themes10:09
Madpilot!tell babyboy about themes10:09
speyernickrud phone ?10:09
^Ocean^is it poosible to change the Ubuntu pic that I see when booting up ?10:09
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achew22_gnomefreak, thankyou -- I hope this works10:09
nickrudon phone a sec10:09
GTXIf you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13422310:10
ricardo_how can i use ascii in linux ubuntu? please help me10:10
Madpilot^Ocean^: yes it is - just a sec, I'll find you a URL10:10
rambo3ocean boot or grub?10:10
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gnomefreakachew22_: sudo apt-get update first10:10
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babyboyOcean yes it is go into the system admiistration10:10
babyboythen login screen10:10
^Ocean^rambo3, i think its grub im running...  what ever came stalk with Breezy10:10
bjornkriI've been running Ubuntu for 24 hours now and so far so good. Except for one thing: my internet connection seems noticably slower on Ubuntu than it did on Windoes (same computer). Is this a known thing with Linux/Ubuntu, or might there be some settings I need to tweak?10:10
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achew22_gnomefreak, no dice -- http://pastebin.com/56566410:11
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soundrayachew22_, did you run sudo apt-get update ?10:11
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Madpilot^Ocean^: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/EyeCandyBreezy10:11
achew22_soundray, yes I did... 2 times10:12
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^Ocean^Madpilot, thx mate10:12
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rambo3ok thats easy just pick up some picuters from http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php  and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%2910:12
gnomefreakachew22_: give me 1 sec10:12
Madpilot^Ocean^: this page is more specific to what you want: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy10:12
ricardo_how can i use ascii?10:12
bjornkriNo one?10:12
gnomefreakachew22_: can you paste your sources.list file on pastebin please10:12
_0331_USMCCan someone tell me how to add fonts in linux?10:12
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Madpilot!fonts10:13
uboturumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto10:13
Madpilot_0331_USMC: ^^^10:13
r4ygtrsup people10:13
gnomefreakubotu tell _0331_USMC about fonts10:13
soundrayrelachs, sorry, I can't get k3bsetup to work here.10:13
gnomefreakubotu thanks10:13
ubotupas de quoi, gnomefreak10:13
r4ygtrdoes anyone know the plugin directory to play mp3's in ubuntu10:13
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_0331_USMCMadpilot: Thanks10:13
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bjornkri!IPv610:14
ubotubjornkri: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:14
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achew22_whoevver asked for it http://pastebin.com/565669 is my sources.list10:14
relachssoundray :-\10:14
Madpilot!tell r4ygtr about mp310:14
rambo3!freevo10:14
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo310:14
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soundrayrelachs, try chmod u+s /usr/bin/cdrdao (note this is a security risk)10:14
achew22_gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/565669 is my sources.list10:14
gnomefreakty achew22_ im gonna look at it10:14
lampshadeso is there now no package called w32codecs or...?10:14
thepenguinIm just wondering: Ubuntu will only let me choose three resolutions 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480, even though on my windows i have more. I installed the linux nvidia drivers but it didnt do anything. Anyone know whast my problem is?10:14
Kyrallampshade: not in our repos10:14
soundrayrelachs, you'll need sudo for it.10:15
joanverdehow do I change the permissions so that I can move anything from one place to another?10:15
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joanverdewithout interupting in GUI mode10:15
thepenguinanyone know anything?10:15
soundrayubotu, tell thepenguin about fixres10:15
markusIm having issues with setting the senstivity of my track pad10:15
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thepenguinmy graphics card is nvidia gforce fx 5200 with 128mb of ram10:16
lampshadeKyral, not even in all the extra ones?10:16
rambo3sudo mv10:16
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relachssoundray, i will try to burn a cd then without changing anything10:16
markushas anyone got some ideas where I should be looking?10:16
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lampshadeKyral, universe, multi, etc?10:16
nickrudspeyer, still around?10:16
Madpilotjoanverde: if you're talking about the stuff in / (root or 'filesystem'), you'll break your install if you mess with permissions that badly. You don't own that stuff, the system does.10:16
Kyrallampshade: none of them10:16
speyernickrud yes10:16
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achew22_what is fixres?10:16
gnomefreakachew22_: hold on ill give you one to replace yours.10:16
soundray!fixres10:16
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:16
achew22_gnomefreak, thankyou so much10:16
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bjornkrimarkus, this worked for me: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/10:16
joanverdeMadpilot: so what shall I do if I want to move things from sdb1 to sda1?10:16
hardstyl0rgn8..10:16
nickrudspeyer, you're sure that mplayer -vo xv <file> isn't using xvideo then?10:16
Biggisup?10:16
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soundrayrelachs, it's only unsafe if there are untrusted users on your system.10:17
bjornkrican't guarantee the same will for you, but do check it out :)10:17
speyernickrud ill try it one more time10:17
Madpilotjoanverde: that, you can change - just change the permissions on the mount points10:17
markusbjornkri: thanks10:17
lampshadeKyral, so is your only choice to build them from source or what?  What happened.  They used to be in the repos weren't they?10:17
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joanverdeMadpilot: and how do I do that? I'm not that skilled :p10:17
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sorush20Biggi: not much just a fw other new members added to community10:17
Biggi:D10:17
Bigginice10:17
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shensheihi, do you know if it's possible to install an ubuntu with a sata cd-rom10:18
gnomefreakachew22_: try this in place of yours10:18
rewt_how do i extract a .bin file?10:18
gnomefreakhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:18
Madpilot!tell joanverde about mount10:18
rewt_I mean .tar10:18
Biggishenshei, try? :/10:18
rewt_not .bin10:18
Yokaloshhow can i defrag my fat32 mp4 player in ubuntu?10:18
Biggiwhat irc clients do you guys use?10:18
gnomefreakrewt_: tar -xvfz file.tar.gz10:18
shensheiyep but it's for a friend and he don't want burn a disc for nothing10:18
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NCLifei put this on etc/fstab "/dev/ipod /mnt/ipod vfat user,noauto,umask=000 0 0" and tryied with sudo mount dev/ipod but i got this error "rong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ipod,10:18
NCLife missing codepage or other error10:18
NCLife"10:18
nickrudspeyer, I'm no expert on mplayer; the only way I know to check is x11 won't go full screen, xv does. That may be simplistic10:19
Biggishenshei, oh no dont let him waste away $1 :O10:19
treakathhey all10:19
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yggdrasil__so im trying ot compile up a source i got dfb++ i do ./configure then make ?10:19
shenshei:)10:19
speyernickrud have a look here please http://pastebin.com/56568810:19
nickrudNChief, try -t vfat10:19
Biggibtw. anyone got a suggestion on how to make kde start at boot? ;|~10:19
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: yes10:19
yggdrasil__and then its done ?10:19
bjornkrino one else having problems with a slow internet connection on Ubuntu? It's noticably slower on my brand new Ubuntu installation than it was on the previous Windows installation...10:19
Biggiit wont start.. i have to log in and do "startx" each time :P10:19
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: than make install or checkinstall10:19
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nickrudNChief, ignore me, I can't read well sometimes10:19
bjornkriI've no idea even where to start trying to fix it10:20
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speyernickrud looks like its using x11 thats what the output says, and also first time i run mplayer , it dint work in full screen mode , i had to add zoom=yes ;)10:20
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soundrayYokalosh, back it up to hard disk, format, and write the files back. No better and safer way to defrag.10:20
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: i perfer checkinstall as do most people that i know of10:20
yggdrasil__gnome freak and how will i know it did it ?10:20
rewt_rewt@ubuntu:~$ tar -xvfz /home/rewt/Music/ Relient K-Two Lefts Dont Make A Right But Three Do.tar10:20
rewt_tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory10:20
rewt_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now10:20
rewt_Got that10:20
Yokaloshsoundray: it takes 5 hours each way to copy the files :(10:20
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: the reason for checkinstall is it checks the install ygg it will tell you weather it did it or not10:21
NChiefnickrud: ok :D10:21
yggdrasil__gnomefreak just type checkinstall ?10:21
soundrayYokalosh, do it overnight, then.10:21
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Yokaloshokily dokily10:21
RichART1how long does i usually take to install ubuntu?10:21
relachssoundray, ok, did it, i typed sudo before the chmod command but he did not ask me for a password, but now the message from K3B does not appear anymore10:21
gnomefreakrewt_: did you cd to where the tar file is?10:21
sorush20rewt_: why don't you use archive manger?10:21
Yokaloshhope this is done by the time i need to go to school!10:21
Yokaloshthnx soundray10:21
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: sudo apt-get install checkinstall first10:21
yggdrasil__yea got iti10:21
yggdrasil__hehe10:21
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: the command is sudo checkinstall10:21
soundrayrelachs, you had probably used sudo before and the passwd was still in memory. Anyway, I expect it'll work now.10:22
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Yokaloshsoundray: wait, isnt it the files that are on the drive that need to be defragmented in the first place?10:22
nickrudspeyer, that is odd, I've never had mplayer not use xv when I told it to. I guess I'm in over my head here.10:22
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gnomefreakachew22_: did that fix it?10:22
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soundrayYokalosh, no, it's the arrangement of the files on the drive.10:22
yggdrasil__gnomefreak whoa i did something10:22
achew22_gnomefreak, sorry, I didn't see the link10:22
eedgeAck!10:22
Yokaloshsoundray: okay thnx10:22
gnomefreakachew22_: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:22
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soundrayYokalosh, are you sure you need to defrag anyway?10:22
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: what did you do?10:22
eedgeProblem, installed XP and I've killed grub10:22
speyernickrud hell yeah thats` why im here :)10:23
yggdrasil__gnomefreak it did it and then put a pkg somwheres ?10:23
nickrudspeyer, lol10:23
eedgetrying to reinstall grub with grub-install and getting this error:10:23
rewt_rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ tar -xvfz Relient\ K-Two\ Lefts\ Dont\ Make\ A\ Right\ But\ Three\ Do.tar10:23
rewt_tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory10:23
rewt_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now10:23
yggdrasil__gnomefreak so now i just install the pkg it made ?10:23
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eedgethe file /boot/grub/stage1  was not read correctly.10:23
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: you should have a .deb package10:23
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: you shouldnt have to install it thats what checkinstall does10:23
yggdrasil__sudo dpkg-install .deb ?10:23
relachssoundray, ok, here is a screen anyway http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7945/k3bsetup3sp.png10:23
gnomefreakyggdrasil__: what did you compile?10:23
yggdrasil__DFB++-0.9.2210:24
relachswould not know how to set it so it works vis This gui form10:24
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soundrayrelachs, yeah, I know, I got this on Debian all the time.10:24
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gnomefreakyggdrasil__: look in your menu for it im not sure what that is but its installed already if you ran checkinstall10:24
yggdrasil__im doing console10:24
yggdrasil__in10:24
yggdrasil__um10:24
yggdrasil__ok ill see what i can do here10:24
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gnomefreakyggdrasil__: ok try running it in console10:25
rewt_gnomefreak, any idea why I'm getting that error?10:25
rewt_I cd'd into the folder its in?10:25
nickrudeedge, are you using  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:25
yggdrasil__actualy i think this is what somone was trying to do the other day ... play video from console10:25
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rewt_gnomefreak, used tab to finish it10:25
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joanverdein mount what do you call a hfs+ fs?10:25
gnomefreakrewt_: yes your not cd'ed into the dir that the tar is saved in10:25
yggdrasil__direct frame buffer something or other10:25
rewt_gnomefreak, yes I am10:25
cunterhi, does anybody know how to get the ati remote working ?10:25
rewt_gnomefreak, rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ tar -xvfz Relient\ K-Two\ Lefts\ Dont\ Make\ A\ Right\ But\ Three\ Do.tar10:26
rewt_tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory10:26
rewt_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now10:26
soundrayjoanverde, hfsplus10:26
Stuar1Sorry for what may seem like a stupid question, but does Ubuntu ship with a firewall?10:26
rewt_It's in a folder called Music10:26
NCLifewhat must i change to be able to mount my ipod. Im getting this error -> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ipod,10:26
nickrudrewt_, try xvzf10:26
NCLifeNCLife missing codepage or other error10:26
rewt_Which I'm at,10:26
joanverdesoundray: thx10:26
sorush20rewt_: just try to see if you can use the archive manager from genome gui..10:26
akcomI'm having trouble making python scripts executable in apache2, I have my config file set, but I believe its wrong, can anyone take a look and see if you find anything blatantly wrong? http://pastebin.com/56569910:26
gnomefreakrewt_: is it a tar.gz or tar.bz?10:26
NCLifewhat could it be10:26
relachsanyone know how to set the console so it looks more like a hacker environment, like the background is transparent etc? lol..10:26
LinuxJonesStuar1: iptables but if you want a gui install firestarter10:26
ConfidentiaLAfter I have blacklisted the sound thing in the hotplug booting, am I then still able to get sound in linux?10:26
rewt_just .tar10:26
gnomefreakrelachs: try current profile in the terminal menus10:27
rewt_rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ tar -xvzf Relient\ K-Two\ Lefts\ Dont\ Make\ A\ Right\ But\ Three\ Do.tar10:27
rewt_gzip: stdin: not in gzip format10:27
rewt_tar: Child returned status 110:27
rewt_tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors10:27
rewt_Tht's error after new command10:27
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nickrudrewt_, no pasting please, then xvf (no z, that's a bz2 file)10:27
gnomefreakrewt_: please dont paste in here10:27
tswrewt_: dont paste here, take z of the options10:27
LinuxJonesStuar1: do you know how to install software in Ubuntu ?10:27
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Stuar1Thanks LinuxJones. And one last thing. Where is the TCL stuff located?10:27
Burgworkrelachs, in gnome-terminal, go to edit profile. Under the effects tab, choose transparent background10:27
Angel_DexHello why cant i mount my Floppy drive i get a UDI error10:27
LinuxJonesStuar1: tcl ?10:28
relachsyea, ok i got it :)10:28
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paxmasteris there a thing that save my session if i shutdown or reboot my computer I want to save it. If i login as my username the application would come up10:28
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rewt_where does the music go to?10:28
LinuxJonesStuar1:  too many acronyms, I don't know what that stands for  :P10:28
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paxmasterjust like in kde10:28
soundraypaxmaster, System-Preferences-Sessions10:28
nickrudpaxmaster, system->prefs->session10:28
soundraynickrud, beat you :)10:29
paxmasterthanks10:29
nickrudsoundray, not here ;P10:29
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gnomefreakrewt_: its gonna extract it in same file that you are cd'ed into10:29
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gnomefreakachew22_: did you try the new ones?10:30
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Angel_Dex!firefox1.510:30
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:30
nickrudpaxmaster, respawn for gnome apps under current session, and you can add apps to startup10:30
Angel_Dex<.<10:30
Stuar1LinuxJones. I am trying to get UnrealIRCD to work. I complied it and have it working fine within my home network. I am considering putting it on-line but was worried about Firewall... I will get a new one. I need TCL for Eggdrop and was wondering where it is located in Ubuntu. It is shown as being installed in Synapatic but it can not find it when I go to compile. TCL = Tool Command Language10:30
achew22_gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/565669 will you look at that?10:30
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paxmasteryeah I want my application to save such like the pids10:31
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LinuxJonesStuar1: you can do whereis or locate tcl in a terminal10:31
SamStonea question about X Server in general: I have two PCs here, and I want to use a program, that runs on the first computer, on the second computer. I know that I have to change the $DISPLAY variable for this, but I don't know more about this. any ideas?10:31
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rad4ChristHi guys!10:31
gnomefreakachew22_: ive pasted a new sources.list for you 2 times would you please replace yours with the new one10:31
ConfidentiaLHow do I get those skins to the terminal? I have just got the default one...10:31
paxmasterthanks I will check on it10:31
achew22_I did... gnomefreak10:31
cradekSamStone: ssh -X othermachine10:32
gnomefreaknot what im looking at you didnt10:32
cradekSamStone: then just run your application10:32
rad4ChristAgain, thanks alot for all the help today. I now have my first Linux based machine installed and running as the fileserver on our network!10:32
LinuxJonesStuar1: I have never used tcl, sorry I can't tell you exactly where to find it10:32
nickrudachew22_, you need to do apt-get update to read your new sources.list then10:32
Stuar1LinuxJones. How would I do that exactly... I am not any good with the terminal commands.10:32
gnomefreakthe link you gave me is still the old one10:32
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relachswhat do i need to download in order to extract .RAR archives?10:32
gnomefreak!rar10:32
ubotuhmm... rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression10:32
bjornkri!rar10:32
_jasonubotu: tell relachs about rar10:32
nickrudrelachs, rar-nonfree10:32
bjornkriehe10:32
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_jasonunrar-nonfree you mean10:33
joanverdehow should I interpet this: chgrp: changing group of `/mnt/windows': Operation not permitted10:33
LinuxJonesStuar1: jusut type whereis tcl or locate tcl and press enter10:33
relachsok :D10:33
Stuar1LinuxJones. Thanks10:33
cradek!Xgl10:33
rad4ChristBut I have two more things I need assistance with. 1: When I reboot, my second hard drive is unmounted, and I have to manually remount it. Is there a way to fix this?10:33
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:33
soundrayrelachs, wei doch jeder ;)10:33
nickrudrelachs, whups, that one's gone in ubuntu breezy, sorry10:33
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LinuxJonesStuar1: Have fun :)10:33
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_jasonrad4Christ: put it in fstab10:33
Flosoftis there a Synaptic clone for the console?10:33
_jasonrad4Christ: what filesystem?10:33
nickrudFlosoft, aptitude10:33
SamStonecradek: the application says then: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:10:33
rad4Christ2: I need a script to place on the desktop to run rsync with selected parameters10:33
rad4Christ_jason, on 1: it's a ext2 FS.10:34
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nickrudFlosoft, although, the clone concept is backwards10:34
rad4ChristCan you help me on how to add to fstab?10:34
rad4Christ!fstab10:34
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.10:34
resuemananyone interested in helping me out with samba10:34
achew22_gnomefreak, will you look at the one I replaced it with? http://pastebin.com/56572510:34
resuemani dont know where to start10:34
_jasonubotu: tell rad4Christ about fstab10:34
nmresueman: the place to start is the documentation10:34
soundrayresueman, start with ubotu's advice:10:34
nickrud!Xgl10:34
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:34
nmwww.google.com10:34
soundray!tell resueman about samba10:35
nmthere are several install guides10:35
rad4ChristGot it _jason10:35
nickrudhm, time for flight 4 then. bye.10:35
rad4ChristBut what about 2?10:35
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rad4ChristThe script.10:35
gnomefreakachew22_: thats not the one i gave you  take the us. part out of them10:35
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rad4ChristI need the equivalent to a .BAT file in WIndows10:35
resuemansoun: thans10:35
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achew22_gnomefreak, didn't you point me to the apt sources generator?10:35
relachshmm do i only need to install unrar-nonfree if im on breezy?10:35
gnomefreakachew22_: after taking the us. out of them sudo apt-get update than try to isntall what youve been trying10:36
gnomefreakachew22_: i was posed to give you the list10:36
bjornkrirad4Christ, just make a textfile with the lines you want to execute, and then make the textfile executable10:36
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joanverdehow should I interpet this: chgrp: changing group of `/mnt/windows': Operation not permitted10:36
bjornkrikinda10:36
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gnomefreakachew22_: hold on let me put it on pastebin10:36
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eedge<nickrud> eedge, are you using  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:37
soundrayjoanverde, you shouldn't. Just run 'sudo chgrp ...'10:37
moritz_some fast mirrors for dapper drake?10:37
bjornkrirad4Christ, try something like http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/10:37
eedgeI think I've tried everything on that page now.10:37
eedgeTo no avail.10:37
bjornkriIt's a fun read :P10:37
joanverdesoundray: ok10:37
joanverdeI'll try again10:37
blueboyis it possible to change default language ( english ) to some other language and how ? Language settings doesn't help me at all !!10:37
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gnomefreakachew22_: http://pastebin.com/56573210:37
soundrayjoanverde, but I suspect it won't work anyway. Look into the umask mount option (man mount)10:37
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vincent_hey10:38
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vincent_guys can anyone help me with Ubuntu, total noob here. I need to connect through a wireless network. I can see my SSID in terminal but I cant find the right syntax to connect10:38
bjornkri!language10:38
soundrayjoanverde, you probably want umask=222 or similar.10:38
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bjornkri10:38
joanverdesoundray: you are correct, doesn't work10:38
bjornkriWorth a shot...10:38
gnomefreaki will brb need to reboot10:38
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joanverdesoundray: which is?10:38
soundrayjoanverde, listen to ubotu:10:38
soundray!tell joanverde about ntfs10:38
rad4Christbjornkri, thanks, but I was hoping I could just tell someone my command line needs, and they could send me what to put in the file?10:38
rad4ChristI'm so strained mentally, I don't think I can attempt anymore today :P10:39
joanverdesoundray: why should I know this, has this to do with permissions?10:39
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rad4ChristThis is what I need in Desktop Icon format: sudo rsync -ur --progress /media/FileServer /media/usbdisk10:39
achew22_gnomefreak, you there?10:40
soundrayjoanverde, umask is for making a mounted Windows filesystem read/writable for users.10:40
rad4ChristI created an .sh file with that in it, but it does nothing10:40
joanverdesoundray: ok10:40
LinuxJonesrad4Christ: can you put that command into a cron job to run every hour or whatever ?10:40
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joanverdesoundray: so I should try to make a umask command to make it write/readeble, actually my fs is fat32 which is already readeble by itself10:41
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_jasonrad4Christ: did you remember the shebang line?10:41
rad4ChristLinuxJones, nope, but I got it!10:41
rad4ChristThanks!10:41
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rad4ChristI just added a $ Backup Line, an echo line, and boom, it works.10:41
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Silivreniondoes ubuntu have lvm support during install?10:42
rad4ChristSO, after many headaches, frustrations, and annoyances, I got Linux running as a fileserver...10:42
LjLblueboy: never done that, but try "auto-apt search language-pack"10:42
rad4ChristHope I don't have to do it again for a while.10:42
bipolarhas anyone used xinerama with the open source radeon driver?10:42
bipolarI have a laptop and want to use the 2nd screen output.10:42
soundrayjoanverde, you should really read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ; you'll know more than I do after that :)10:42
blueboyLjL, will do.. thanks10:43
joanverdesoundray: reading10:43
bipolaror how about getting the ATI driver working in dapper :)10:43
achew22_can you get dapper on 1 cd10:43
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iBalobipolar: what about ranting ATI for that?10:43
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bipolariBalo: I kind of doubt they would care about an unreleased version of ubuntu. I'd rather use the open source one anyway.10:44
dooglus$ sudo ls10:44
dooglussudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 21 22:36:29 200610:44
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dooglus^-- what's that all about?10:44
jetsaredimwhere does apt store packages?10:44
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nuuhey room10:45
bipolar /var/cache/apt iirc10:45
jetsaredimI'm having trouble getting a package through apt, but I seem to be able to see it on the web10:45
GTXIf you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13422310:45
dooglusjetsaredim: /var/cache/apt/archives, yes10:45
phiber_opticwhere can change the color of my menus?10:45
jetsaredimdooglus: so can I just download a package and put it there and apt will find it10:45
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iBalojetsaredim: /var/cache/apt/archives10:45
Silivrenionanyone know if ubuntu supports lvm?10:45
dooglusjetsaredim: no10:45
jetsaredimdooglus: and assume it already downloaded it10:45
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nuunew to linux and ubuntu was wondering if it's possible to remove kde to save some disk space or does it matter10:45
dooglusjetsaredim: use "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>@10:45
dooglusjetsaredim: use "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>"10:45
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afonitdoes anyone know of a gui for the eps2png or eps2pdf command line utility?10:46
stephan__p10:46
eedgeI'm still getting "The file/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly errors", please help!10:46
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dooglusafonit: gnome-terminal?10:46
signifer123where could i get a general linux troubleshooter?10:46
phiber_opticwhat is the package name for gnome art?10:46
Karkoim first time using ubuntu, i just got ubuntu 5.10 installed into my PC and now when im starting my computer it loads gnome i guess and after that a black screen appeears and the whole computer freezes and i have to restart it thru the powerplug. Enyone oculd help me?10:46
soundraydooglus, is that date really in the future where you are? If not, run sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate start10:46
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afonitdooglus - haha10:46
dooglussoundray: it depends.10:46
iBaloeedge: you moved partitions, didn't you?10:47
dooglussoundray: on what timezone I set10:47
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eedgeI don't think i moved partitions?10:47
dooglusif I run "date" I see Tue Feb 21 21:47:15 UTC 200610:47
dooglusbut local time is 22:4710:47
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eedgeif I do find /boot/grub/stage1 its there.10:47
eedgeI can see it!10:47
iBaloeedge: then you might have a flaky harddrive10:48
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eedgeWell, any suggestions?10:48
eedgelol10:48
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SilivrenionI dont know how big my swap partition needs to be. I am doing a hard drive install through knoppix. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix10:48
Silivrenioncan anyone help?10:48
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iBaloeedge: are you in ubuntu now?10:48
phiber_opticwhat is the package name for gnome art?10:48
eedgeyes, well, the live CD.10:48
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jetsaredimdooglus: what do you make of this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/907010:48
gnomefreakyayyyyyyy its fixed :)10:49
lusepusterHello - just did an upgrade to dapper. It seems I can't find the beagle search tool although I installed the beagle package. Am I missing something?10:49
soundraydooglus, so the date it moans about is in fact in the future if you assume that it refers to UTC.10:49
soundray?10:49
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_jason!dapper10:49
ubotu[dapper]  the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it10:49
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alex_Hi10:49
dooglusjetsaredim: that's a beauty10:49
alex_please HELP!10:49
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dooglussoundray: yes.10:49
jetsaredimdooglus: yea - tell me10:49
_jasonalex_: just ask your question10:49
eedgeiBalo, yes I am.10:49
alex_Im logged into irc from terminal10:49
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alex_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:49
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, alex_10:49
alex_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:49
ubotualex_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:49
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alex_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:49
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, alex_10:49
gnomefreaktheres a dapper room?10:49
_jasonalex_: stop and just ask your question10:49
alex_ok10:50
_jasongnomefreak: yep ompaul's idea, pretty good one10:50
alex_I messed up my xwindows10:50
alex_it wont start10:50
_jasonat least I think it was his10:50
dooglusjetsaredim: can't you download the right package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?10:50
KRAAnybody here with nvidia knowledge ?10:50
alex_how do i post my xorg.conf from terminal?10:50
Karkomy computer freezes after the screen with brown loading stuff, all says OK and has ubuntu logo, after all is OK and the loading bar is full it goes to a black screen and tadaa, comp freezes10:50
Karkohelp me someone?10:50
_jasonalex_: you need to give us more details.  What did you do to mess it up?  Do you get errors?10:50
iBaloeedge: then mount your ubuntu hd-partition and copy /boot/grub/directory over _EXCEPT_ _the_ _menu.lst_10:50
jetsaredimI downloaded that from the mirror listed on the kde3.5.1 page10:50
dooglussoundray: yes, if it's referring to UTC, then it's in the future10:50
gnomefreakty im checking it out :)10:50
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alex_i installed fglrx drivers10:50
jetsaredimdooglus: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php10:50
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alex_:(10:51
soundraydooglus, 'touch /tmp/reference', then set the system time two hours ahead, then run 'find / -newer /tmp/reference -print0 | xargs touch', then go back to proper time.10:51
eedgeiBalo, where would I copy it to?10:51
alex_i think my xorf.conf is looking for the wrong drivers10:51
alex_i tell you what10:51
soundraydooglus, sorry, xargs -0 touch10:51
alex_actually10:51
alex_hmm10:51
KRAAnybody here with nvidia knowledge ?10:51
dooglusjetsaredim: I use GNOME10:51
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jetsaredimdooglus: yea i figured10:51
iBaloeedge: whats your ubuntu partition?10:51
alex_?10:51
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eedgehda410:51
_jasonalex_: please don't use enter as punctuation, it makes it difficult to follow what you are saying10:51
joanverdesoundray: the diskmounter said this to me: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table10:51
soundrayKRA, only nvidia has nvidia knowledge, and even that is scarce apparently.10:51
joanverdewhat's that about10:52
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jetsaredimjetsaredim: but I figured that someone here might be able to explain the apt errors i'm getting10:52
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alex_ok sorry10:52
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soundrayjoanverde, Mac disk?10:52
eedgeiBalo, hda410:52
dooglussoundray: what would that do?10:52
KRAsoundray, funny, you have any experience though ?10:52
joanverdesoundray: yes10:52
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dooglussoundray: looks like it would find all the files with a date in the future, and give them a different date in the future?10:52
soundraydooglus, good question. I made a mistake. Give me a minute...10:52
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iBaloeedge: so 'sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt'10:52
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eedgeyes... I've done that.10:53
fangoriouslvreduce man page says to resize any fs in the lv first, but doesn't give any hints how to do that10:53
dooglussoundray: I think your instructions would work if you left out the @set system time to the future@ bit10:53
alex_well what i did is i was trying to install my ATI card drivers and it wasnt working so i installed the drivers from the packages (fglrx) and rebooted, and now xserver wont start at all, please say you can help ...10:53
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dooglusoh, and how do I set the keyboard in ubuntu?  I want double-quote on shift-2, not @10:53
dooglusis there a package to dpkg-reconfigure?10:53
soundraydooglus, no, it would refuse to change the date on a file that has a future timestamp.10:53
phiber_opticdoes anybody know how to change the color of my menus ?10:53
alex__jason thanks if you can help, i just installed ubuntu over windows!10:54
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eedgeiBalo, i've done that.10:54
eedgeHow else would I be accessing it!10:54
jonathan_hello, could someone explain me how to run "bochs", an emulator, under ubuntu?10:54
iBaloeedge: what does 'ls /mnt/boot/grub' yield?10:54
soundraydooglus, modify the above command from the pipe: '| xargs -0 touch -r /tmp/reference'10:54
lampshadephiber_optic,   interesting name10:54
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gnomefreakjonathan_: try interminal type bochs10:54
phiber_opticthanx lampshade10:54
soundraydooglus, that would give it a stamp to match the reference file.10:54
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_jasonalex_: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, see if that gives you X back10:55
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lusepuster_jason: Sorry I got off-topic... I've joined ubuntu+1.10:55
dooglussoundray: I managed to delete a large chunk of my root partition earlier today.  I'm trying to recover from that...10:55
alex_ok10:55
alex__jason: shall i accept the defaults?10:55
lampshadeis the only method now for the w32codecs to install them by source?10:55
NickGarveywhere is my init script?10:55
alex_i tried that before and it messed up10:55
joanverdesoundray, you know what that means? it's a mac drive... the script can't manage mac?10:55
_jasonlusepuster: no need to apologize, just letting you know of the new channel10:55
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soundraydooglus, or maybe it's  '| xargs -0 touch -r=/tmp/reference' (I haven't tried this)10:55
_jasonalex_: sure10:55
soundrayjoanverde, apparently.10:55
mamefanNon-technical question:  How does ubuntu make money?10:55
phiber_opticthanx lampshade10:55
phiber_opticdoes anybody know how to change the color of my menus ?10:55
alex_ok10:56
alex_brb10:56
PuMpErNiCkLemamefan: Support, enterprise deployment fees, MarkS...10:56
soundraymamefan, at present it doesn't10:56
jonathan_thanks gnome freaks10:56
jesseman_mamefan, eventually they will make $$$ thru service subscriptions from large enterprise deployments10:56
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joanverdesoundray: I'll try a reboot10:56
fangoriousi used to have a separate / and /boot partition, I booted off the dapper live cd, mounted both under /mnt, copied /mnt/boot/* to /mnt/root/boot, edited /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst to change the partition numbers, took the /boot partition out of /etc/fstab and rebooted. that worked10:56
lampshadephiber_optic, which menus?  You can change Gnome's overall themes and also mess with individual menus and things.  I mostly have mine set to be transparent10:56
alex_exit10:56
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alex_quit10:56
doogluswhich package is 'man' in?10:56
soundrayjoanverde, it won't help I'm afraid.10:56
phiber_opticlampshade, yeah I want something like that10:56
bjornkriwhat's the apt-command to search for a package?10:56
lampshadeapt-cache search package10:57
dooglusbjornkri: apt-cache search10:57
bjornkrithanks10:57
iBalobjornkri: apt-cache search10:57
phiber_opticbut i put my menu bar transparent and now I cant read like applications so I want ot change the colo of the letters but I dont know where :(10:57
iBalo... too slow...10:57
mamefanSo, let's say at some point Ubuntu starts bringing in lots of money from all the large enterprise support agreements.  What motivates the individual package contributors to continue their work?  Given that they're unlikely to see the $$?10:57
soundraydooglus, man-db10:58
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_jasonmamefan: not everything is done to make money10:58
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fangoriousthen i got rid of the partition that used to be /boot, and edited menu.lst again, but now grub can't load :(10:58
dooglussoundray: thanks.  I just found it.  It's not installed by default?10:58
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mamefan_jason: Do you have a job?10:58
phiber_opticlampshade, any ideas??10:58
soundraymamefan, do you have children?10:58
mamefanYup.10:58
_jasonmamefan: what does that have to do with it? (yes)10:58
mamefanwould you keep doing you're job if they quit paying you?10:59
lampshademamefan, I just installed linux on my main box--  it crashes more, I lost a lot of my applications that I loved (picasa, etc), but in light of all of that I do it because one I work with it for a while I plan to contribute code back to the community.  It is a good thing overall10:59
soundraymamefan, what makes you play with them, if you don't see the $$10:59
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mamefansoundray: good point.10:59
_jasonmamefan: I sit here and answer your questions, yet I'm not paid :)10:59
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Jormundgandsoundray: if I enjoyed a job I'd do it for free. The money is generally an extra - although I'd get another job which paid to make ends meet. =P10:59
mamefanwell, I'm not paid to ask them either.11:00
soundraymamefan, some things are done for the love of it. If it helps someone make money, all the better.11:00
we2byis the nvidia card driver installed by default when installing ubuntu?11:00
phiber_opticdoes anybody know how to change the color of my menus ?11:00
mamefanIt's just that lately I've been giving a lot of thought to the sustainability of OSS.11:00
iBalowe2by: that depends....11:00
we2byiBalo, I have a fx 520011:00
_jasonphiber_optic: probably by installing a theme11:00
lampshademamefan, also consider what you call getting paid for it.  Like Novell and Google both use and contribute to linux.  However, Google isn't selling linux or anything like that.  The income kinda comes around in a different way I guess is what I'm trying to say11:00
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dooglusaah.  I didn't have @ubuntu-standard@ installed.  what else is part of a basic desktop install?  I've got @ubuntu-desktop@, but that doesn't depend on @ubuntu-standard@11:01
MrPocketsdoes Ubuntu havce a recycle bin that things go when you hit Delete ?11:01
_jasondooglus: ubuntu-base I think11:01
soundrayJormundgand, I'm with you all the way.11:01
NickGarveymamefan: if you go on google you can see loads of people have though similar to you and there are countless articles on the issue11:01
gnomefreakMrPockets: yes bottom right hand corner11:01
NickGarveythought(11:01
phiber_optic_jason, theres no way to change just the color of a theme?11:01
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gnomefreakin gnome11:01
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_jasonphiber_optic: you can probably edit the theme11:01
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mamefanNo doubt it weighs more heavily on some than others.11:01
MrPocketsgnomefreak, say its not there, how else do i get into it11:01
gnomefreakMrPockets: are you on gnome?11:02
MrPocketsyeah11:02
phiber_optichow _jason?11:02
soundrayJormundgand, let's stop it anyway, lest people start to talk ;)11:02
lampshadephiber_optic, you can change colors, and such, I did to mine, but I've never tried changing font colors.  Like I said I usually just play around till I see the option in situations like this so I can't be more specific, sorry :(11:02
iBalowe2by: then you have to install the restricted-modules package according to your kernel, and nvidia-glx... sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ... and you're done11:02
Jormundgand=P11:02
MrPocketsi just switched up the tool bars some time ago and Recycle bin isnt there11:02
gnomefreakyou dont see the lil blue thing in bottom right corner?11:02
gnomefreakahhhhhhhhhh11:02
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lampshadeMrPockets, it was just removed is all.11:02
gnomefreakMrPockets: you can try right clicking and adding trash to panel11:02
_jasonphiber_optic: checkout art.gnome.org for their tutorial on making themes and then edit the file for your current theme11:02
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rhythminmindok so everytime i try to log in i get "Change your password immediately (root enforced) " So ok i change it but it will ask it again next login.. I've enabled root, and even with this acount it asks for a new password. i cant do anything with the system it keeps wanting new authentication... HELP!11:03
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phiber_opticok thanx _jason11:03
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mamefanMrPockets: ALT-F1 and then trash:// (maybe?)11:03
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MrPocketsOMG Thank you!11:03
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Biggihaha i had 65 gig in my trashcan the other day :P11:04
NickGarveywheres the script that mounts the filesystems on boot?11:04
mamefanOops ALT-F211:04
miveczcan anyone help me11:04
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soundraydooglus, sorry, missed your question. It's "Priority: standard"11:04
gnomefreakmivecz: can you tell us your issue?11:04
ConfidentiaLI have a problem with airodump, is this the placeto get help for this kind of things?11:04
dooglussoundray: I asked a question?11:04
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rhythminmindanyone see my issue before?11:05
soundraydooglus, about man-db I think.11:05
miveczcvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login(i cant  login11:05
gnomefreakdooglus: xubuntu is added back11:05
soundraydooglus, nvrmnd11:05
zerephathI installed beagle..but it complains that the daemon isn't running...a visit to /usr/share/doc/beagle revealed nothing...how do I get beagle to start the daemon and keep it running even after a reboot occurs?11:05
dooglussoundray: I'd like to know how to set my keyboard to be UK instead of US11:05
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TonyB2006the i386 installer doesnt freeze w/ me, but the amd64 one gets really far, and then freezes at a random point11:05
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soundraydooglus, X or console?11:05
miveczis  ask  for  pass  i  just hit  enter  but nothing11:05
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dooglussoundray: console11:05
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miveczcvs [login aborted] : connect to cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.209):2401 failed: Connection timed out11:05
InnerF|REdoes anyone know why firefox wont load with msn networks dsl?11:06
InnerF|RExp works fine11:06
dooglussoundray: usually the installer would ask you, but I didn't use the installer11:06
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fangoriouswhy are there no grub utilities on the flight4 livecd?11:06
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miveczflight4 release?11:06
soundraydooglus, it'll take me a couple of minutes to remember how...11:06
ConfidentiaLWhat channel should I join to get help with airodump and wireless scanning? Or maybe I could get help here?11:06
NickGarveywheres the script that mounts the filesystems on boot?11:07
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namei can't open hda1 !11:08
dooglusNickGarvey: /etc/init.d/mountall.sh11:08
NickGarveythank you11:08
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zerephathNickGarvey: It isn't a script it is a file named fstab11:08
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dooglusNickGarvey: but what you probably wanted to know is that /etc/fstab controls which filesystems it mounts11:08
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yggdrasil__can omone help me out with this error  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `alsa/asoundlib.h', needed by `softdevice.o'.  Stop.11:08
NickGarveyactually no, I'm trying to set up quota11:08
NickGarveyand its telling me to edit my init script11:09
NickGarveybut I really have no idea what I'm doing11:09
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dooglusyggdrasil__: sounds like you need to install package libasound2-dev11:09
InnerF|REdoes anyone know why firefox wont load with msn networks dsl?11:09
dooglusNickGarvey: the script I told you is probably the one then11:09
NET||abusehi, i've been trying to install libxpm4 but apt can't find the package11:09
KRAAnyone here with knowledge about nvidia binary drivers /settings ?11:09
yggdrasil__think i did doooglus ill try again11:09
nekostaro.o11:09
NET||abusecan anyone else find it?11:09
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NickGarveyLRUGHTP11:10
NickGarveywhoa11:10
miveczhow i  get  the  dev packages of E17???11:10
NET||abusehave I got to enable another deb?11:10
dooglusyggdrasil__: check whether you have /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h11:10
NickGarveyalrighty11:10
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yggdrasil__dooglus yes its there11:10
mamefanInnerF|RE:  I'm using MSN DSL and Firefox works for me.  What are you seeing (or not seeing)?11:10
soundraydooglus, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data11:10
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heredei'm trying to install kubuntu from the latest ISO, but something goes wrong with the basesystem installation. it points me to some log file (which doesn't exist), and then the installer exits. it appears to happen while extracting TAR. i've checked google, the faq, ... anyone got an idea what this could be?11:11
miveczhow i  get  the  dev packages of E17???11:11
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NET||abusecan anyone tell me what deb to enable to get libxpm411:11
dooglussoundray: thanks. you're a star.11:12
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_jason!find libxpm411:12
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libxpm4' (2 shown): libxpm4 ;; libxpm4-dbg.11:12
_jason!info libxpm411:12
ubotulibxpm4: (X11 pixmap library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 128 kB11:12
yggdrasil__can omone help me out with this error  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `alsa/asoundlib.h', needed by `softdevice.o'.  Stop.11:12
_jasonNET||abuse: you need the main repository enabled11:12
ConfidentiaLOk, I'll ask here: Does any1 know why I on airodump get tons of packets, but never a single IV?11:12
InnerF|REmamefan..11:12
InnerF|REcan i primsg u?11:12
mamefanok.11:12
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NET||abuse_jason: what does that look like in the sources.list ?11:12
NickGarvey!info quota11:13
ubotuquota: (implementation of the disk quota system), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.13-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 1160 kB11:13
_jasonNET||abuse: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main11:13
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_jasonubotu: tell NET||abuse about easysource11:13
NET||abuse_jazon; thanks11:13
majik_otherhi, I just installed an nvidia card; a XFX FX5200 PCI; into my dapper drake computer. when I boot it hangs at "loading hardware drivers..."11:13
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miveczhow i  get  the  deb packages of E17???11:14
bipolarHas anyone used Xinerama with the Open source radeon drivers? I think I'm pretty close but I'm not getting anything on my 2nd screen.11:14
soundraymivecz, apt-cache search enlightenment to list them, sudo apt-get install packagename to install.11:14
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nuucan anyone help me with mplayer11:15
_jasonnuu: just ask :)11:15
nuuit doesn't seem to play any sound files or cds11:15
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_jasonnuu: does it play video files?11:15
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biovorenuu: you using the mplayer from apt?11:15
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nuuno from automatrix11:16
nuuyeah it plays movies no prob but not music11:16
NET||abuseno checked it out, i definately have all deb's listed as main enabled but no libxpm411:16
gnomefreak!automatix11:16
ubotuautomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.11:16
biovoremplayer should beable to do mp3/ogg/wav ac3/aac audio no problem11:17
miveczcvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login11:17
miveczPress <enter> when prompted for a password, then download the code by typing:11:17
miveczcvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment \11:17
miveczco -D "July 24, 2002" e1711:17
_jasonnuu: always best to install things on your own and not become dependent on a script imo, I'm gonna send you a link to the mplayer guide.  Try to follow the steps to get it to use esd sound.  Come back if you have problems11:17
_jasonubotu: tell nuu about mplayer11:17
miveczwhy is no  work these11:17
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MABcrap. I am using Automatix as we speak11:17
_jasonubotu: tell mivecz about pastebin11:17
nuuok11:17
NET||abuse_jason: so yeh, all mains are listed, still not finding libxpm411:17
gnomefreakMAB: :(11:17
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nuueverything is fine except that11:17
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biovoreI build mplayer from source.. works much better..  don't forget to get divx4linux/xvidcore/x264 before building11:17
_jasonNET||abuse: can you put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?11:17
fd_hi all! how can i try drapper? i have 5.10 installed right now. must i install clean from a drapper cd?11:18
yggdrasil__can omone help me out with this error  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `alsa/asoundlib.h', needed by `softdevice.o'.  Stop.11:18
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_jasonbiovore: he's using automatix, I doubt he wants to build it :P11:18
MABI am new to Linux and Ubuntu was the first ive tried11:18
NET||abuse_jason: ok, hang on two seconds11:18
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ruby123MAB: good choice :-)11:18
_jasonMAB: great choice11:18
MABty11:18
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relachshaha11:18
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ruby123hehe11:18
MABI realy thought Automatix was cool11:18
InnerF|REqwest msn's dsl just timesouts with firefox, but works fine with xp.. anyone know why>11:19
InnerF|RE?11:19
cavediverHi. I'm having problems getting Zend Studio to work in Dapper. It installs fine but when I run it no menus appear, just a blank grey screen. Anyone recognizes this ?11:19
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_jasonMAB: there have been some issues with it in the past11:19
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gnomefreakMAB: i never used it but ive have only heard bad things11:19
biovoreInnerF|RE: firefox in general or just firefox on linux?11:19
mamefanInnerF|RE:  Sorry -- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,11:19
allan__where can i get the restricted modules for the 2.6.15 kernel?11:19
_jason!dapper11:19
ubotudapper is, like, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it11:19
nmautomatix doesn't really work as it should11:19
nmheh11:19
MAB_jason I have not read anything on the subject. Any real examples or personal issues?11:19
miveczsoundray look these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/907311:19
NET||abusehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.org/907411:19
theking_2100hi every one11:19
nmi have a friend guinea'ing breezy for me11:20
nmon his compaq laptop11:20
InnerF|REfirefox onlinux11:20
ruby123hi theking_210011:20
InnerF|REubuntu11:20
nmhe had nothing but difficulty with it11:20
InnerF|REim registered11:20
nmand when i checked it out, it did install the packages it suggested it would, but they weren't really configured properly at all11:20
theking_2100i'm i in the right channel for help?11:20
NET||abuse_jason: http://paste.ubuntulinux.org/907411:20
gnomefreaktheking_2100: is it ubuntu related?11:21
theking_2100yep11:21
MABWell I guess I am going to learn from my own mistakes11:21
gnomefreakthan you are11:21
_jasonNET||abuse: I'm getting a 404 on that page, just me?11:21
Panzerboyheh11:21
soundraymivecz, where did you get those instructions?11:21
Panzerboyjust updated to dapper11:21
Panzerboyso far, so good :)11:21
gnomefreakMAB: take a look at easyubuntu11:21
NET||abuse_jason: :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/907411:21
Panzerboynew gnome really rocks11:21
MABbut I love my ubuntu :) I dictch windows after 3 days on ubuntu :)11:21
miveczin a  site to  get   the  deb  packagers  for  e1711:22
allan__here can i get the linux restricted modules for the 2.6.15 kernel?11:22
theking_2100it's the very fist hours i use linux i just finish installing ubuntu 5.111:22
_jasonNET||abuse: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper11:22
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dooglussoundray: looks like I need to change the keyboard map in X too.11:22
dooglussoundray: I've found system->prefs->keyboard but it doesn't seem to have any effect.11:22
relachsi want to install irssi but it says it is been referenced but not available11:22
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theking_2100i just want to know how i can install ndiswrapper 1.1011:22
_jasonrelachs: ubuntu comes with irssi installed11:22
soundraydooglus, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:22
MABhave realy had no problems with ubuntu I can basicly do all the stuff I did on my winxp but kool graphics from PSP but I want to explor gimp :)11:22
crimsunrelachs: the package name is 'irssi-text' in Breezy11:23
nmthe_king2100: google.com?11:23
dooglussoundray: ooh.11:23
fangorioushow do I reinstall grub from the dapper flight4 livecd?11:23
dooglussoundray: thanks11:23
soundraymivecz, those instructions are for Debian. You'll run into trouble if you apply those to Ubuntu.11:23
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nmthis is indeed a help channel, but you should exhaust your other avenues of research first11:23
miveczwhere  to  find  for ubuntu11:23
gnomefreakubotu tell fangorious about grub11:23
soundraymivecz, well, you know that, cause you already have...11:23
Zoroastermsg11:23
Zoroastermsg-nickserv11:23
Zoroastermsg-nickserv identify11:23
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_jasonZoroaster: stop11:23
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theking_2100i ve downloaded a an archive tar.gz11:23
_jasonubotu: tell Zoroaster about register11:23
ZoroasterI already registered11:24
ZoroasterI am trying to remember how to identify11:24
miveczwhere  to  find  for ubuntu?11:24
_jasonZoroaster: /msg nickserv identify password11:24
nmZoroaster, clearly you're omitting the necessary slash (/)11:24
nmbefore your commands11:24
gnomefreakZoroaster: /msg nickserv identify password11:24
relachs_jason, oh right, crimsun thanks11:24
InnerF|REi guess nobody knows yeah?11:24
phiber_opticwhat is the command to see what version of ubuntu im running i dont remember :(11:24
theking_2100i decompressed it on the desktop and i don't know how to install it11:24
_jasonphiber_optic: lsb_release -a11:24
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phiber_opticthats it thanx _jason11:25
eedgeI installed XP after ubuntu, and it fuggered my grub.11:25
soundraymivecz, ubotu seems to know something:11:25
TonyB2006it'll do that11:25
eedgeAnyone experienced "/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" errors when running grub-install before?11:25
soundray!tell mivecz about e1711:25
_jasonubotu: tell eedge about grub11:25
MABlol eedge11:25
Zoroaster_jason, thanks11:25
NET||abuse_jason: heh, not likely to get much help in ubuntu+1, you can't help no? :(11:25
MABerro 7511:25
theking_2100i saw that i should type in a command like make install but i dont know where and how11:25
_jasonNET||abuse: confirm that the package exists for dapper using packages.ubuntu.com11:26
eedgeI've tried most of, if not all, of the precedures on the wiki page for restoring grub after windows installation.11:26
relachserr, just noticed i didn't want to use irssi, i want a text-only browser :-)11:26
soundraytheking_2100, what's this software?11:26
eedgebut all of them tend to fall apart around the same place, and thats grub-install.11:26
_jasonrelachs: lynx is one11:26
gnomefreaklinks2 :)11:26
nuu_jason with that am i to copy everything,will it mess up everything i already have?11:26
theking_2100soundray ndiswrapper 1.1011:26
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fangoriouscan grub have the root/boot partition in an lvm group?11:27
miveczapt-get e17 dev packages...don't know exactly wich ones..?11:27
nuucause it plays movies fine so i don't want to loose that11:27
_jasonnuu: you are referring to the 'configuration' part?11:27
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nuuyes11:27
relachs_jason, thank you11:27
_jasonnuu: no, you should not lose functionality11:28
nuucan i add it to what i got or do i have to start from scratch?11:28
MABso what is the purpose of wine or VM. I can just take things I have on disk and make them run on Ubuntu? Or is it more complicated than that11:28
soundraytheking_2100, sorry, if you want to install that from source, I can't help. Why don't you install the ubuntu package (ndiswrapper-utils)?11:28
mamefanInnerF|RE: I can't PM.11:28
_jasonnuu: put what you have on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:28
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InnerF|REwell talk to me in the channel then11:28
NET||abuse_jason: arrg, libxp-dev libxp6/-dbg11:28
InnerF|REnobody is saying anything11:28
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mamefanHave you check IP connectivity (ie. can you 'ping www.google.com')11:28
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theking_2100soundray from the cd?11:29
MacSloweye-candy food -> http://macslow.thepimp.net/?p=2711:29
NET||abuse_jason: no libxpm4 in teh x11 section11:29
soundraytheking_2100, no, from the repositories.11:29
eedgeCan somebody help me reinstall grub, I'm really lost as to what is wrong...11:29
InnerF|REi have to reboot and log into linux to do that11:29
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gnomefreakeedge: did you read the wiki about grub yet?11:29
InnerF|REbut if my ip connectivity works here in xp11:29
MABeedge are you on windows right now?11:29
InnerF|REwhy wouldnt it with ubuntu?11:29
_jasonNET||abuse: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libxpm4&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all11:29
mamefanIf so, then the problem is with Firefox.  If not then the problem may be with name resolution.  Try 'ping 64.233.167.147'11:29
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theking_2100soundray Hum... i don't know how to do it11:29
mamefanif that works then you know it a DNS issue.11:30
eedgeYes,  I'm in windows right now.11:30
eedgeIts frightning me.11:30
eedgelol11:30
MABlol11:30
soundraytheking_2100, how new are you to ubuntu?11:30
_jasoneedge: was the bot's link not helpful?11:30
MABhow long have you had ubuntu installed?11:30
gnomefreakok brb gonna try this again :(11:30
fd_can i resize my partition easily to make space for a new one?11:30
mamefanAnd you'd want to look at you /etc/resolv.conf (compare what's in there to your windows IPCONFIG).11:30
theking_2100soundray 2 hours lol11:30
eedgeno, I've allready seen that link.11:30
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nuuok i pasted it now what save?11:30
mamefansorry IPCONFIG /ALL11:30
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NET||abuse_jason: ehhh. hmm heh.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/ not listed there??? weird11:30
eedgeand followed most of those restoration steps...11:30
eedgenon of them have worked.11:30
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eedgeand none of them assess my specific problem.11:31
MABFD_ yes you can resize the partition as much as you like and you can make as many as you want11:31
soundraytheking_2100, okay, there's a few things you need to make yourself familiar with before you can start installing pre-packaged ubuntu software from the repositories.11:31
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soundraytheking_2100, ubotu will give you a few links11:31
soundrayubotu, tell theking_2100 about repos11:31
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fd_MAB, what tool would i use? Disk Manager from the Administration menu?11:31
mamefanBasically you need a valid IP/subnet, route, and name resolution.  If all that works then you'd need to focus on firefox config (I know very little about that).11:31
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soundrayubotu, tell theking_2100 about easysource11:31
InnerF|REk11:31
soundrayubotu, tell theking_2100 about synaptic11:32
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mamefanYou know how to check each of those?11:32
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InnerF|REshouldnt this be done automatically when i "install" ubuntu?11:32
InnerF|REit always has...11:32
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mrkrisi installed kubuntu, but am getting errors when running apt-get upgrade, it tells me that there is a file mismatch on these debs. i have tried apt-get -f upgrade, apt-get --fix-missing, etc11:32
soundraytheking_2100, it'll take you a little while to get through that material, but it's *far* better than messing around with source packages.11:32
InnerF|REthe only difference is the isp11:32
eedgeMAB, missed that... I've had ubuntu installed for sometime.11:32
mamefanI'd expect it to, but you never know.  It doesn't hurt to check.11:32
MABfd_ that something I saw in the Automatix but people here are telling me not use it. Too late.. LOL but you are going to have to ask but I believe you can use Synaptic and look in there11:32
eedgewas first installation on a laptop though.11:32
InnerF|REk11:33
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InnerF|REbe back in a bit11:33
wastrelhello.11:33
Zoroasterwhat is it that IN install so that I have lots of backgrounds to choose from11:33
mamefanMaybe they don't server DHCP and instead are doing PPoA or something like that.  My line is PPoA.11:33
Zoroasterits an art package11:33
MABsorry eedge I would not know the answer :(11:33
ZoroasterI just forgot11:33
wastrelwhat's ppoa?11:33
soundraytheking_2100, in fact, the repositories are one of the things that make Ubuntu special.11:33
mamefanPoint-To-Point over ATM.11:33
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mamefansimilar to PPoE (Point-To-Point over Ethernet).11:34
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marcelohello word11:34
wastrelheh he have a t1 or something?11:34
MABhi marcelo :)11:34
mamefanDSL is often PPoA.11:34
MABlol11:34
theking_2100soundray ok thx so befor i will be able to install some thing  i should learn all these pages?11:34
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wastrelhmm i wasn't aware.11:34
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mamefanif you have a username/password that you enter into a DSL modem it's almost certainly PPoA.11:35
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_mindspinpppoe ?11:35
soundraytheking_2100, as it is, you can install things from the CD only. You'll get to the point where you install things from the net fairly quickly.11:35
iamtim!mount11:35
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f11:35
marcelowho this using ubuntu in server11:35
NickGarveyI am using ubuntu..11:36
NickGarveyno gui though11:36
marcelois server ?11:36
mamefanonly two P (Point to Point).  When it's PPP that's Point to Point Protocol.  For some reason you drop the third P.11:36
theking_2100soundrayi looked in synaptic if i could find stuff but i didn't11:36
NickGarveyyeah11:36
NET||abuseso hmm, if libxpm4 is in the dapper pacakges.ubuntu.com/dapper  why isn't my system able to pick it up?11:36
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wastrelwhat's the popular music program lately?  sounds like anjuta but not...11:36
iamtimWhat is the command to moutn a drive atr startup.11:36
theking_2100because i want to install my wifi usb card11:36
iamtimF something...11:36
NickGarveychange /etc/fstab11:37
mamefanamaroK?11:37
iamtim!fstab11:37
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.11:37
MABanyone here use Skype to communicate successfully with people using Windows and have voice?11:37
eedgearg, I really don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu just cause I can't get grub to reinstall.11:37
eedgeis their some way to partially reinstall?11:37
wastrelmamefan:  that's it thx..  hmm kde oh well11:37
tahorgmmm, how much space do I need to mirror breezy + dapper packages ?11:37
marcelohe has been estavel?11:37
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tahorgmarcelo: stable :)11:37
NickGarveyI think you can install grub without reinstalling your os11:37
tahorgmarcelo: seu portuglish11:37
iamtimThanks. Is there ANY way to remove diskmounter script once run?11:38
theking_2100soundray  because i want to install my wifi usb card and i learned that i should use ndiswrapper to install my drivers11:38
ZoroasterWhere can I get themes for gnome?11:38
soundraymamefan, I'm pretty sure _mindspin is on PPPoE -- I know the provider (T-Online, right _mindspin?)11:38
mamefanwww.gnome-look.org11:38
_mindspinyup11:38
theking_2100but i don't know how to do to install it11:38
_mindspinhere in germany it's almost pppoe11:38
marcelohehehe11:39
eedgeart.gnome.org as well.11:39
soundraytheking_2100, have you tried plugging it in and see whether Ubuntu recognizes it?11:39
theking_2100yep11:39
mamefanUsually the DSL connection protocol is irrelevant to the OS (unless your using an internal DSL modem).11:40
soundraytheking_2100, what happens?11:40
Zoroastermamefan, thanks, that helped me find what I was looking for - gnome-look I think11:40
theking_2100nothing lol11:40
mamefanMost DSL modems are external and either bridge or NAT.11:40
marcelowhich type of application this twirling in the server, data, server web?11:40
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soundraytheking_2100, when you open System-Administration-Networking, what interfaces are in the list?11:41
eedgeis there any explaination of why grub would return cannot read correctly for stage1 when it is readable as I can find it, and see it myself and where the filesystem is correct?11:41
theking_2100it's appears in the device manager11:41
theking_2100thats all11:41
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soundraytheking_2100, when you open System-Administration-Networking, what interfaces are in the list?11:41
soundraytheking_2100, eth0? ppp0? Anything else?11:42
theking_2100nop11:42
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soundraytheking_2100, what interfaces do you see under Connections?11:42
theking_2100etho and loopback11:42
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soundraytheking_2100, and when you plug the USB Wifi adapter in?11:43
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ZoroasterI installed "gnome-backgrounds", but how do I call it up, its an app right?11:43
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theking_2100doesn't chage any thing11:43
jag_fsfdoes /tmp have some magic fu on it that makes it noexec regardless of how it's mounted? i'm getting "failed to map segment from shared object: Operation not permitted" when trying to load an .so from /tmp, and the only other time i've seen this error is when /tmp is mounted noexec...11:44
mamefanZoroaster:  nope.  It's just backgrounds.11:44
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soundraytheking_2100, close and re-open the Network settings pls.11:44
Seveas!find libxpm dapper11:44
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libxpm' (3 shown): libxpm-dev ;; libxpm4 ;; libxpm4-dbg.11:44
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soundrayZoroaster, right click on the background, last item in menu.11:44
eedgeis there any explaination of why grub would return cannot read correctly for stage1 when it is readable as I can find it, and see it myself and where the filesystem is correct?11:44
Seveas!info libxpm4 dapper11:44
marceloei tahorg  is Brazilian?  tested ubuntu 6.04?11:44
ubotulibxpm4: (X11 pixmap library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 128 kB11:44
eedgejust trying to troubleshoot my problem.11:44
harritjtheking_2100 'dmesg' & post output after you have plugged in the usb dongle11:44
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phiber_opticwhere can I check the rsa key for ssh?11:45
tahorgmarcelo: estou usando11:45
eedgebecause I dont even have the slightly comprehention of why its not working.11:45
Zoroasterlook I recently relapsed and started using windows so sorry about all the questions, I'm all better now11:45
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theking_2100soundray nothing11:45
soundrayharritj, slowly. He's been on Linux for two hours.11:45
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zFQuestion11:46
CarlFKis there an rsync addr for dapper-server?  this daily shoudl be called yesterdaily at the rate is is going: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.iso11:46
zFWhen I ./configure11:46
zFmake11:46
zFmake install11:46
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theking_2100harritj what? lol11:46
zFWhere does the install files typically go?11:46
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harritjohhh heh, ok, well it would still make alot more sense to us getting that output rather than a 'notn'11:46
zFI've never compiled much stuff from source.11:46
jag_fsfzF: depends on the software11:46
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theking_2100soundray thx for your help11:46
_jasonzF: don't use make install, use checkinstall11:46
ZoroasterI could have sworn that the last time I ran Ubuntu, I had installed an app, or package, that gave me lots of cool backgrounds to choose from11:46
marcelotahorg: de onde vc  cara ?11:46
soundraytheking_2100, okay, it's ndiswrapper then.11:46
jag_fsfzF: often /usr/*, sometimes /usr/local/*11:46
tahorgmarcelo: curitiba - pr11:46
CarlFKzF: /usr/bin is a common place11:46
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marceloai vc instalou pelo cd mesmo ? ou usou apt ?11:47
_jasonzF: you need to install it though, sudo apt-get install checkinstall.  That way the package manager handles the file and you can see exactly where everything went with dpkg -L packagename11:47
theking_2100so ?? to install it what i should do?11:47
harritjtheking_2100  what usb wifi adapter is it?11:47
zF_jason, that seems more intelligent, I'll do that11:47
Seveasmarcelo, tahorg please stick to english in here....11:47
mamefanZoroaster:  gnome-themes?11:47
soundraytheking_2100, open System-Administration-Synaptic11:47
Scarboroughshould I change from gnome to kde?11:47
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zFdo I still ./configure11:47
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zFmake11:47
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zFand then checkinstall11:47
KtronAnyone here who has run World of Warcraft under ubuntu?11:47
_jasonzF: yeah, except sudo checkinstall11:47
zFRight.11:48
mamefangnome-themes-extras11:48
theking_2100it's inventel  11mb11:48
NickGarveymm I think WoW would be a bit hard to run under wine..11:48
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KtronAnd if I install 64-bit ubuntu, will wine act as a 32-bit windows emulator?11:48
tahorgSeveas: ok no problem11:48
NickGarveynever tried it but I really doubt it...11:48
mamefanKtron: not on IA64.11:48
theking_2100model ur012i11:48
mamefanTried it and failed.11:48
jag_fsfdoes /tmp have some magic fu on it that makes it noexec regardless of how it's mounted? i'm getting "failed to map segment from shared object: Operation not permitted" when trying to load an .so from /tmp, and the only other time i've seen this error is when /tmp is mounted noexec...11:48
harritjtheking_2100  thats a atmel chipset.. supported, but might not be included in the ubuntu distro.11:48
KtronNickGarvey; I know a lot of people who do it, just not anyone whose done it with ubuntu11:48
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Tomcat_Ktron: I read somewhere that wine won't even compile on 64-bit... but not sure about that.11:49
KtronTomcat_; I'm not sure either11:49
Zoroastermamefan, I'll look into that, it's not that important11:49
esd_lnxmy time stamps seems not working :/   but its click?11:49
soundrayTomcat_, there is a 64-bit Wine now, apparently.11:49
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harritj'atmel-firmware' && 'at76c503a-source' ...11:49
zF_jason, some serious errors just went down11:49
wastrelKtron:  i reboot for it :/  only reason i still have a 'doze partition.11:50
mamefansoundray:  not for IA64 :-(11:50
theking_2100i know that there no driver for linux so i found out that i should install and run ndiswrapper 1.1011:50
eedgeHey, does anyone know any other methods for restoring grub other than those listed on the wiki?11:50
zFin the source directory, I ran. "./configure", "make", and then "sudo checkinstall", and apparently it didn't work correctly.11:50
Ktronwastrel; alright, thanks, same to everyone else too11:50
theking_2100but i don't know how to install it11:50
soundraymamefan, I prefer beer anyway.11:50
harritjtheking_2100 if it is indeed an inventel, then it has atmel chipset, which _is_ supported11:50
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phiber_opticwhere is the path to get my public rsa key for ssh?11:50
wastrelKtron:  i would try but my laptop couldn't handle wow under wine ;]   barely handles wow under windows11:50
soundraytheking_2100, have you opened synaptic?11:50
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theking_2100yep11:50
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mamefansoundray: ?11:50
_jasonzF: what were the errors?11:51
soundraymamefan, to wine ;)11:51
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soundraytheking_2100, in Settings-Repositories,... sorry telephone11:51
mamefanAhh, maybe I should poor beer on my IA64s.  Couln't hurt.11:51
theking_2100soundray np11:51
trappistmamefan: pour11:52
alien9391How to restart x?11:52
mamefanyeah, i'm stupid.11:52
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eedgeHey, does anyone know any other methods for restoring grub other than those listed on the wiki? Or if not any other possibility to get access back onto my ubuntu?11:52
mamefanI'm normally the spelling police.11:52
trappistmamefan: awesome11:52
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eedgeI've tried various bootdisks and bootmagic etc, they just freeze when I try to boot the partition.11:52
nickrudalien9391: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (assuming you're using ubuntu)11:52
zF_jason, http://pastebin.com/56586611:53
trappistmamefan: maybe I'll run across you late one night as I prowl the streets with my paint can and apostrophe-shaped stencil11:53
relachsdoes anyone know if centrino have HT technology?11:53
wastreleedge:  you mean mount the partition?11:53
alien9391nickrud : thx11:53
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marcelook ok11:53
asymmetryrelachs, no, to my knowledge, thats a p4 and later feature11:53
pmjI need to burn several 4GB+ files to DVD, but GnomeBaker (mkisofs) tells me they're too large. What should I do?11:53
wastreleedge:  can you mount the disk from your bootdisk?  the partition/disk isn't toast?11:53
_jasonzF: you have build-essential?  and what are you installing?11:53
rem_how do you install the dictionnary for another language for openoffice ? (I did apt-get install it, but I dont have it in OO)11:53
harritjpmj shrink em a little ;)11:53
theking_2100soundray i found ndiswrapper-utils in synaptic i m installing it11:54
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zF_jason, yes, I do - I'm install nmap 4.0111:54
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pmjharritj: they're not too large to fit on the DVD, but apparently too large for the filesystem or something. Shrinking them is not an option11:54
relachsasymmetry, yes, but centrino came later than p4, also there are centrino on the market named Centrino II11:54
nickrudpmj:  k3b (kde, I know)11:54
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trappist<3 k3b11:54
rem_is there anything more to do ..?11:54
asymmetryrelachs, oh, centrino... read celeron (really tired)11:54
phiber_opticIm trying to remote desktop to my computer and it tells me that the RSA key is not the same, that it has been changed. Where can I get this RSA key?11:54
pmjyes, I really don't want to install k3b unless I absolutely have to11:54
asymmetryrelachs, i can look it up11:54
harritjyou tried growisofs?11:55
nickrudpmj: k3b is the best option you have, really.11:55
soundraytheking_2100, well done. I told you it wouldn't take long ;)11:55
rem_i didnt want to install k3b, but I ended up doing it anyway ..:P11:55
relachsasymmetry, hehe11:55
eedgeno. I can mount hda4 (the linux partition) from a live CD.11:55
trappistphiber_optic: try ~/.ssh/known_hosts11:55
_jasonzF: hrmm, I've enver gotten that.  You sure it compiled without errors?11:55
eedgewastrel, I tried other boot loaders though and I couldn't boot from hda4.11:55
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rem_as well as kooka ... only 2 kde apps ...11:56
eedgebut I can mount it under a live cd.11:56
rem_how do you install the dictionnary for another language for openoffice ? (I did apt-get install it, but I dont have it in OO)11:56
eedgeand read the files grub-install says it can't read.11:56
rem_is there anything more to do ..?11:56
marceloby by word11:56
mamefanrem_: you let the camel in and you'll never get him out.11:56
zF_jason, yep.11:56
rem_lol11:56
asymmetryrelachs, yes, some centrinos have ht - techbuilder.org article dated 29 Sept 2004 describes it, so id imagine anything much later than that has it - how fast is the processor in question?>11:56
harritjpmj personally I use growisofs only when burning dvds.. never had a problem as long as the iso's are in fact within size11:56
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phiber_optictrappist I see a lot letters which will be my ikey?11:57
relachs1.7Ghz Centrino II11:57
pmjharritj: I'll try that then11:57
xnullhow much is a p3 laptop?11:57
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_jasonzF: let me try11:57
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wastreleedge:  have you tried giving grub explicit boot parameters about where to find this disk?11:57
benplautare the US repos down?11:57
mamefanxnull:  I'll sell you mine for $300 (US)11:57
thenukexnull: how much is a fish?11:57
theking_2100soundray now it's says it install where do i find it or should i just try to run mo driver cd11:57
wastreleedge:  i assume it's looking for the /boot partition?11:57
eedgeno, its been completely whiped off the mbr.11:58
xnullmamefan: p3 dont know for sure : from where are you?11:58
mamefanthenuke:  I'll sell you mine for $13 (US) it's a rainbow trout.11:58
xnullmemfan:11:58
eedgeat the moment its booting straight to the old windows partition.11:58
mamefanxnull:  you're better off prowling eBay than asking here.  I retract my offer.11:58
asymmetryrelachs, not too sure on that one - id imagine that if the centrinos have it, that the centrino 2s do too, easiest way to tell is load it up in an smp-capable kernel/os and see if it reports two processors11:59
relachsasymmetry, hehe if i only had one ;)11:59
zFhrmmm11:59
eedgewastel, I'm looking at how I can completely reinstall grub onto the mbr.11:59
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eedgewell, I assume thats what I have to do.11:59
wastreleedge:  have you tried this one:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub12:00

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