[12:00] <axisys> i want to take those images and put it together to create a new diagram
[12:00] <arkanes> dia is a diagramming applicaton similiar to visio
[12:00] <axisys> but dia does not allow import images
[12:00] <damg> Doesn't Flight 4 support Marvell Yukon 88e8050  (sk98lin [deprecated]  / sky2)?
[12:01] <farous> axisys: you can convert imagaes using imagemagick
[12:01] <farous> axisys: if you want simple flow charting openoffice can do that
[12:01] <axisys> oodraw2?
[12:01] <damg> i tried to modprobe both drivers - both are modprobeable, but the network adapter still isnt accessible via net config utility / ifconfig
[12:01] <farous> axisys: yap
[12:02] <bjornkri> Downloading updates at a mindboggling 2000 B/s... *groan*
[12:02] <bjornkri> This can't be normal
[12:02] <navarone> sb Seveas
[12:02] <benplaut> how do i run-as-user from command line?
[12:02] <navarone> wb*
[12:03] <JoeLBF> hey anyone here got a minute or two to help a liunx newbie?
[12:03] <robotgeek> benplaut: sudo?
[12:03] <Seveas> benplaut, sudo -i -u user
[12:03] <benplaut> thanks
[12:03] <navarone> JoeLBF, ask away
[12:03] <juanfe_> hallo
[12:04] <JoeLBF> alrighty. i bought another laptop to try linux on, just did a fresh install of 5.10 but i cant get the wireless card to work
[12:04] <deang> Scorched Earth 3d failed with 'Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)'     Any thoughts?
[12:04] <robotgeek> JoeLBF: do you know if it's supposed to work?
[12:04] <LinuxJones> OMG Dapper is so friggin awesome !!
[12:04] <JoeLBF> its a broadcom 802.11g and i have no freakin idea how to install the drivers, assuming i can find some
[12:04] <robotgeek> JoeLBF, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:04] <ubuntu> cant open firefox
[12:04] <robotgeek> JoeLBF: okay, that helps
[12:04] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell JoeLBF about ndiswrapper
[12:04] <rewt_> robotgeek, what kind of laptop, what card?
[12:05] <rewt_> Are you dual booting it, robotgeek
[12:05] <robotgeek> rewt_: not me, JoeLBF
[12:05] <rewt_> Oh, sorry.
[12:05] <dpaterso> <--- in VNC Hell....
[12:05] <rewt_> <--- VNC works fine.
[12:05] <dpaterso> Trying to bring up my MAC desktop on Ubuntu computer at home.
[12:05] <rewt_> Never did it with MAC though, sorry.
[12:06] <dpaterso> thax rewt
[12:06] <dpaterso> which VNC do you use?
[12:07] <Kr4t05> !tcl
[12:07] <ubotu> Kr4t05: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <Protocol1> !vnc
[12:07] <ubotu> vnc is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[12:07] <rewt_> vncviewer?
[12:07] <Kr4t05> Gosh...
[12:07] <Kr4t05> How do I seach with apt?
[12:07] <damg> apt-cache search
[12:07] <navarone> Kr4t05, try apt-cache search
[12:08] <relak> does anyone have an idea why i only hear something like SHhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHh HHSHHhhh equivalent to the length of my speech when i test my mic? what are the settings?
[12:08] <Paradosso>  how do I remove a package in adept/synaptic/apt-get ignoring dependencies?
[12:08] <navarone> relak, try "alsamixer" in terminal and see if line-in ot mic is muted
[12:08] <Seveas> Paradosso, that is quite a bad idea..
[12:09] <Seveas> those dependencies are there for a reason..
[12:09] <or_rdr> has anybody tried getting built-in wireless working on omnibook 500 with breezy?
[12:09] <relak> navarone, it can't be muted since i hear the shHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh
[12:09] <Paradosso> Seveas, I have a newer version compiled of taglib and compiling amarok requires I uninstall the prevoius packaged one
[12:10] <Seveas> Paradosso, kubuntu.org provides debs of the latest version of amarok, koffice and kde
[12:11] <Arafangi1n> What is the best way to transfer a sparse file?
[12:11] <Paradosso> Seveas, the amarok 1.4 beta 1 is for dapper, I got breezy
[12:11] <mqueiros> Hi! Did anyone installed acrobat reader 7.x in ubuntu ?
[12:11] <acidic32> how comes my system wont report correct MHZ for my processor
[12:11] <trappist> Arafangi1n: scp
[12:11] <Arafangi1n> I have a 10G file that I wish to send - but it only consumes 174M on the originating computer.
[12:11] <Seveas> mqueiros, yes, from the Ubuntu repositorie
[12:11] <acidic32> its picking up 1007mhz instead of 1800mhz
[12:11] <navarone> acidic32, try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:11] <acidic32> why?
[12:11] <Arafangi1n> trappist: Scp insists on transfering the full 10G, rather than the "real" 174M
[12:11] <acidic32> model name      : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+
[12:11] <acidic32> stepping        : 2
[12:11] <acidic32> cpu MHz         : 1005.037
[12:12] <navarone> acidic32, are voltages/jumpers etc set for corect speed?
[12:12] <acidic32> yes, in windows xp, its showing 1808mhz
[12:12] <acidic32> and before i upgraded kernel, it showed it
[12:12] <trappist> Arafangi1n: by what definition is it a 174M file?
[12:12] <nbjayme> good morning everyone from my country! :)
[12:13] <navarone> nbjayme...which country is that?
[12:13] <nbjayme> philippines :)
[12:13] <Arafangi1n> trappist: In that it's allowed to grow to 10G. It's an optimization.
[12:13] <mqueiros> seveas, is it Acrobat Reader from Adobe or some other pdf viewer ? Witch repositorie ?
[12:13] <Arafangi1n> trappist: If you must know, it's a disc image for qemu
[12:13] <ablomen> nbjayme: well good evening from holland ;)
[12:13] <navarone> nbjayme sry to hear about the mudslide in leyte
[12:14] <nbjayme> yep. tragedy happens when least expected. well, we've got all to learn from it.
[12:14] <navarone> acidic32, no idea man
[12:14] <Arafangi1n> So, how do I transfer it?
[12:14] <Stork> what program can i use to write to a cd-rw ?
[12:14] <acidic32> ;/
[12:14] <trappist> Arafangi1n: oh that.  that should be easily compressible, and compression is my recommendation.
[12:15] <Arafangi1n> trappist: But if I then unpack it, it could take 10 gig.
[12:15] <navarone> Stork gnomebaker, serpentine,k3b
[12:15] <IdleOne> Stork:  gnomebaker or k3b
[12:15] <Arafangi1n> trappist: In essense, it's already compressed.
[12:16] <ardchoille> It seems I started an interesting thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133641
[12:16] <asterisk99> Newbie here.... how do I have a pgm like Asterisk start automatically on boot-up?
[12:16] <mqueiros> seveas: ok, found it... will try to install it. I tried to install the version from adobe but it didn't started.
[12:16] <trappist> Arafangi1n: I don't know how qemu works, but vmware give you the option of whether to pre-allocate the space.  if you say no, in this case the guest OS would have 10G available but the image would only be as big as the data on it.  afaik you have a 10G file and there's not a lot you can do about it, but maybe the qemu folks know something about the image that I don't know.
[12:16] <navarone> asterisk99, what is prog Asterisk?
[12:17] <Stork> gnomebaker gives me an error when i try and burn: cdrecord: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target.
[12:17] <Stork> gnomebaker gives me an error when i try and burn: "cdrecord: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target."
[12:17] <navarone> Stork you havea  cd burner?
[12:17] <Arafangi1n> trappist: Yes, the image is only as big as the data is on it, yet scp insists on transferring the full 10G
[12:17] <asterisk99> navarone: An IP-PBX server
[12:17] <bogoff> Blasted firewall.
[12:17] <Stork> navarone, i think so, but how can i tell?
[12:17] <Arafangi1n> trappist: Many other files also exhibit this behavour, some database files, etc.
[12:17] <rewt_> asterisk99, go to system>preferences>sessions
[12:18] <rewt_> Click on the startup tab
[12:18] <trappist> Arafangi1n: what I meant by my earlier question is, what's reporting it as less than 10G
[12:18] <rewt_> Add the program. :)
[12:18] <navarone> Stork try dmesg in terminal
[12:18] <i3dmaster> I can create a reiser4 filesystem, but how to mount it?
[12:18] <Arafangi1n> trappist: du
[12:18] <trappist> Arafangi1n: you might try using nc on each end
[12:18] <Arafangi1n> trappist: ls reports it as 10g
[12:19] <rewt_> asterisk99, can you cofirm this worked?
[12:19] <wastrel> the reason i hate linux is whenever i try to change something i end up breaking it
[12:19] <rewt_> wastrel, like what?
[12:19] <wastrel> 3 days without functioning mail
[12:19] <navarone> Stork in dmesg output you should look for something regarding hdc or hdd which should indicate your cd-rom or burner
[12:20] <bogoff> Sorry about that guys: http://www.ragdollstudios.com/downloading.jpg - see, just hangs like that. The after a while I get "Connection Failed"; this is my issue from before, when trying to install "Konsole"
[12:20] <Stork> navarone, "dmesg | grep 'hdd'" returns: [4294672.701000]      ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
[12:21] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Please answer the question.
[12:21] <yggdrasil_> stork you try sudo mount -a ?
[12:21] <yggdrasil_> or just look in your etc fstab
[12:21] <wastrel> what question Arafangi1n
[12:21] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: 10:19 < rewt_> wastrel, like what?
 3 days without functioning mail
[12:22] <navarone> Stork on front of your computer what does the front of the cd drive(s) say...?
[12:22] <Stork> dvd rom
[12:22] <Stork> i sswear i bought a cd rw
[12:22] <navarone> Stork not neccessarily a burner though
[12:22] <ubuntu_> hi all
[12:22] <Stork> ah well, i'll use my laptop
[12:22] <Stork> thanks guys
[12:22] <ubuntu_> hey gues i have one question
[12:22] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Cause and effect.
[12:22] <navarone> buyer beware...<s>
[12:23] <Evodawg> I guess
[12:23] <IdleOne> how do I a program in startup menu in xfce?
[12:23] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I'll assume that "3 days without functioning email" is the EFFECT - but what was the course (ie, what did you change?)
[12:23] <Arafangi1n> *cause
[12:23] <zest> Hi, Mp3 Install Problem on IBM R50 Laptop. It ran before but after update no sound is played aanymore
[12:23] <ubuntu_> i want to run AutoCad under Ubuntu
[12:23] <ubuntu_> do u have any sugestions
[12:24] <thenuke> try wine
[12:24] <thenuke> windows emulator
[12:24] <spikebike> zest same here
[12:24] <ubuntu_> wine
[12:24] <ubuntu_> ok
[12:24] <ubuntu_> thanx
[12:24] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  well i installed dovecot imap server, configured fetchmail and procmail and postfix an got everything running neatly, until i rebooted and outgoing mail stopped working
[12:24] <piromana> how do you make ubuntu save sessions (so that you dont have start yr usual apps everytime)??
[12:24] <zest> spikebike,  same hardware same station ..
[12:24] <Evodawg> I ran wine about 2 yrs ago had it gotten any better>  It was ugly then
[12:24] <ubuntu_> but this is especially for auto cad
[12:25] <spikebike> no, amd64 desktop
[12:25] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Looks like you didn't check the rc scripts.
[12:25] <ubuntu_> or for all windows applications
[12:25] <navarone> piromana, when you are logging out/shutting down you can check a box that saves sessions and opens progs that are currently open when you next start
[12:26] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  well i've since replaced postfix with masqmail since i really only need local delivery & relaying thru my isp's smtp.  so i'm now getting local delivery but internet mail is all just queuing up
[12:26] <piromana> navarone - i dont get that option (dapper)?!
[12:26] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  so i need to sit down and spend some more time with masqmail i think
[12:26] <navarone> piromana, sry I'm using breezy
[12:26] <piromana> K
[12:26] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  also need to install spamassassin and that will probably break incoming mail for a while :] 
[12:26] <spikebike> try dspam
[12:27] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I would get your email system working first across reboots.
[12:27] <zest> spikebike, just got any answer ?
[12:27] <tanubis> anyone know why I might not be getting sound on a divx copy of a movie under VLC?
[12:27] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  well local delivery is working across reboots
[12:27] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Again, check your rc scripts. Perhaps you didn't remove your other email servers (whatever they may be), and they're conflicting on the port.
[12:27] <tanubis> it's just the one file, but I've tested it on a windows boot and it works on
[12:28] <spikebike> zest mplayer works but firefox+flash doesnt
[12:28] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  no, i get the masqmail banner when i connect to 25
[12:29] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  and postfix was removed when i installed masqmail.  dovecot is working and so is fetchmail/procmail... it's just the internet-bound email that's not being relayed.
[12:29] <IdleOne> how do I add program in startup menu in xfce?
[12:29] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Check yoru logs.
[12:29] <zest> spikebike, mplayer on ubuntu ??? howto ???? ibm system as400 user newbe ...
[12:29] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: What happens when you send an internet-bound email?
[12:29] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: That is a retorical question.
[12:29] <spikebike> google for mplayer and ubuntu
[12:29] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm trying to hook up a printer that's connected by USB to my Ubuntu machine to my Windows Machine over the network.  I can see the printer, but when I try to connect to it it says that the driver is invalid.  I attempt to manually install the proper drivers and it says they don't match my hardware.  Any ideas?
[12:30] <IdleOne> zest
[12:30] <IdleOne> !mplayer
[12:30] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:30] <pianoboy3333> How do you get the time in the terminal?
[12:31] <bimberi> pianoboy3333: date
[12:31] <Belboz99> date
[12:31] <pianoboy3333> ah, thd
[12:31] <pianoboy3333> thx
[12:31] <Arafangi1n> What is the best way to package up a sparse file?
[12:31] <Belboz99> pianoboy3333, the time command times how long other commands take to complete ;)
[12:31] <Kr4t05> How can I configure X for dual monitors?
[12:31] <spikebike> Arafangi1n compress it
[12:32] <Arafangi1n> To prepare it for transportation (to a machine that is of the same cpu arch and OS)
[12:32] <trappist> Arafangi1n: cat sparsefile > newfile might be worth a shot, but I don't have one here to test that with
[12:32] <Arafangi1n> spikebike: The compression program is generally going to read it as a file, and compress it.
[12:32] <spikebike> right
[12:32] <Arafangi1n> spikebike: To simplify, it'll read "174M of data followed by 9.9G of zeros", guess what happens when you unpack it?
[12:33] <Arafangi1n> trappist: Pipes also read the file itself.
[12:33] <spikebike> 10gb
[12:33] <trappist> Arafangi1n: that's not a pipe, but you're probably right about redirection too
[12:33] <wastrel> you put the lime in the coconut
[12:33] <trappist> Arafangi1n: maybe dd if=sparsefile of=newfile
[12:33] <Arafangi1n> trappist: dd would also read the file.
[12:34] <Arafangi1n> Hmm, looks like "tar -cvvSf" handles it.
[12:34] <trappist> I don't know how you're going to avoid reading the file
[12:34] <trappist> ok kickass, there you go
[12:34] <Arafangi1n> Though it's taking 1.4G to store the 10G sparse file that only takes 400M to store on disk.
[12:35] <Arafangi1n> Still, that's better than an actual 10G
[12:35] <spikebike> whisky is cheaper
[12:35] <mark_> how many partitions does Ubuntu need?
[12:35] <spikebike> heh, oops
[12:35] <trappist> mark_: at least 1
[12:35] <Arafangi1n> mark_: Preferably 3.
[12:35] <bogoff> What should I install to enable support for video file types such as avi? Is there a codec pack?
[12:35] <mark_> ah, okay
[12:35] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how I can configure X for dual monitors?
[12:36] <jjjjjjj> hello... does *buntu have the xp fast user switching capability?
[12:36] <mark_> Kr4t05, I have a problem
[12:36] <mark_> everytime I do configure X for my dual monitors
[12:36] <Kr4t05> ?
[12:36] <mark_> they both display crazy things
[12:36] <mark_> and half pictures etc
[12:36] <mark_> no idea why
[12:36] <mark_> :\
[12:36] <Arafangi1n> mark_: I like to at least separate the '/home' from the rest of the system, and it is recommended to have a swap partition.
[12:36] <spikebike> video card?
[12:36] <Kr4t05> mark_: I have yet to get it.
[12:36] <mark_> ATI radeon 9000 pro
[12:36] <Arafangi1n> mark_: How do you configure X?
[12:36] <mark_> you type
[12:37] <mark_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:37] <Arafangi1n> mark_: I have no problems with aticonfig --dtop=horizontal
[12:37] <trappist> mark_: if you have an ati card and the fglrx drivers run sudo fglrxconfig
[12:37] <trappist> mark_: works every time for dual monitors here
[12:37] <Belboz99> Hey, anyone know why Windows won't accept my Linux printer drivers?
[12:37] <Arafangi1n> mark_: But I use the proprietary drivers.
[12:37] <wastrel> ubotu tell bogoff about mp3
[12:37] <mark_> trappist, I did, it comes up something about no drivers and wont work :\
[12:37] <zest> mp3 not working after update  .. any idea for ibm r50 laptop
[12:38] <trappist> mark_: grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:38] <Arafangi1n> trappist: I am under the impression that one gets fglrx when one uses the proprietary drivers, and mark_ appears to be using the free ones.
[12:38] <julle> how do i run .deb files?
[12:38] <Belboz99> julle dpkg
[12:38] <farous> julle you mean install right
[12:38] <wastrel> julle:  carefully...  what deb is i?
[12:38] <wastrel> it
[12:39] <bjornkri> What should I add to sources.list to get the multiverse?
[12:39] <julle> wastrel: its a program
[12:39] <trappist> Arafangi1n: it seems he has them installed but isn't *using* the proprietary ones.  else I'd expect fglrxconfig to say something more along the lines of 'no such command'
[12:39] <julle> want to install a ftp program
[12:39] <mark_> julle, type in console sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[12:39] <LinuxJones> Belboz99: what are you trying to do ?
[12:39] <wastrel> julle:  if it's in the apt repositories it's better to use the ubuntu packages instead
[12:39] <julle> mark_: ok thx
[12:39] <farous> julle: search for it in the repos first
[12:39] <mark_> and also
[12:39] <Arafangi1n> julle: Make sure that it's for ubuntu, and not for debian.
[12:39] <farous> before installing an untrusted packg
[12:39] <mark_> trappist, grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:39] <mark_> erm
[12:39] <julle> Arafangi1n: ok
[12:39] <julle> thx
[12:39] <bjornkri>  deb http://is.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:39] <bjornkri>  deb-src http://is.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:39] <mark_>         Driver          "fglrx"
[12:39] <mark_> even
[12:39] <mark_> :D
[12:39] <bjornkri> ... is what I currently have
[12:40] <Belboz99> thanks LinuxJones, I'm trying to share my Linux HP printer with my father's Windwows Laptop.  Windows keeps on coming back with "invalid drivers" and it won't accept them manually
[12:40] <trappist> mark_: I wonder if you could paste the exact error message from fglrxconfig
[12:40] <bjornkri> but doesn't seem to work, no multiverse things in synaptic
[12:40] <mark_> okay
[12:40] <mark_> erm
[12:40] <mark_> wait
[12:40] <mark_> it's from the firegl thing
[12:41] <LinuxJones> Belboz99: there are howto's on the wiki for setting up print sharing  in windows. I don't use it so I can't help you directly.
[12:41] <jjjjjjj> hey robot... can you add "yes, ubuntu can 'switch users' like xp" to your database?
[12:41] <mark_> hold on
[12:41] <Belboz99> LinuxJones, which wiki would that be?
[12:41] <mark_> I tried sudo fireglcontrol
[12:41] <mark_> before I was always just doing fireglcontrol
[12:41] <mark_> maybe it'll work now
[12:41] <mark_> :\
[12:41] <mark_> k, restarting x
[12:41] <zest> mp3 not working after update  .. any idea for ibm r50 laptop
[12:42] <farous> mark fireglcontrolpanel do not need to be run as sudo
[12:42] <LinuxJones> Belboz99: wiki.ubuntulinux.org
[12:43] <bjornkri> never mind then
[12:43] <mark_> hmm
[12:43] <jjjjjjj> anyone here from the Vancouver BC area?
[12:43] <mark_> didn't work
[12:43] <Arafangi1n> It seems that windows has only recently been able to switch users like linux.
[12:43] <Arafangi1n> What windows still can't do is switch users in the same _session_, which I feel is more useful imho.
[12:43] <mark_> no matter what I do through fireglcontrol it doesn't dual screen
[12:43] <wastrel> mark_:  did you follow the ati howto on the wiki?
[12:43] <mark_> yeah
[12:43] <mark_> didn't work for me
[12:43] <mark_> :\
[12:43] <wastrel> mark_:  oh you want dual screen?
[12:43] <mark_> yes
[12:43] <wastrel> mark_:   try fglrxconfig
[12:44] <farous> mark running dua screen here
[12:44] <farous> no problems at all
[12:44] <mark_> meh, I'll try again
[12:44] <LinuxJones> jjjjjjj: no but I'm from Nova Scotia :)
[12:44] <mark_> with sudo fglrxconfig
[12:44] <farous> mark what card you have and what type of dual screen you need
[12:44] <mark_> i want the xcinema one, and I have an ATI radeon 9000 pro
[12:44] <Laz> is this the support room for installing unbuntu on macs?
[12:45] <farous> hmm did you check first on their website if 9000 work with their drivers
[12:45] <mark_> farous, the ATI website?
[12:45] <mark_> if so, nope
[12:45] <mark_> and I didn't see anyhting on the ubuntu site
[12:45] <farous> and you can set the xcinema <extended desktop> without the prop driver
[12:45] <Belboz99> LinuxJones, I'm confused.  It doesn't look like this article is complete:  https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/PrinterSharing?highlight=%28printer%29
[12:45] <jjjjjjj> linuxjones: well if you get on the plane you can make it to the linux user group tonight.
[12:45] <Arafangi1n> mark_: Why don't you just use the proprietary drivers _from_ ATI?
[12:45] <mark_> Arafangi1n, they never seemed to work :\
[12:46] <farous> mark let me check it for you
[12:46] <Arafangi1n> mark_: It becomes as simple as running sudo aticonfig options.
[12:46] <mark_> they made my frame rate drop
[12:46] <jjjjjjj> some guy from google will be there tonight.  :D
[12:46] <Arafangi1n> mark_: That is interesting.
[12:46] <Kr4t05> !twinview
[12:46] <ubotu> Kr4t05: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:46] <mark_> not to mention
[12:46] <Kr4t05> Twinview is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=dual+monitors
[12:46] <mark_> the ATI drivers would always hang during installation
[12:46] <farous> mark typing fireglinfo in a terminal wht do you get
[12:46] <mr-russ> GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic
[12:46] <LinuxJones> jjjjjjj: that's so cool there are no LUG's in this area :(
[12:46] <mr-russ> apt-get update  is giving me that.
[12:46] <Kr4t05> The bot does learn like that, right?
[12:46] <theD3viL> will dapper have graphical installer ?
[12:46] <mark_> bash: fireglinfo: command not found
[12:46] <jjjjjjj> it's my first LUG... i'm stoked.
[12:47] <mark_> farous ^^
[12:47] <Laz> what is 5.10? Dapper
[12:47] <theD3viL> Laz: 5.10 iz breezy
[12:47] <jjjjjjj> well i did go to a Corel intro a few years back.
[12:47] <farous> mark_: which drivers you installed ?
[12:47] <mark_> fgrlx
[12:47] <Protocol1> 6.04 is dapper
[12:47] <mark_> or however they are
[12:47] <Arafangi1n> mark_: So you do technically have them installed?
[12:47] <farous> mark where did you install them from is it hte howto
[12:47] <mark_> yeah, I done the thing on the ATI howto
[12:48] <theD3viL> Laz: 5.10 iz breezy
[12:48] <theD3viL> will dapper have graphical installer ?
[12:48] <ubuntu> porn
[12:48] <farous> if you did then you should have the fireglinfo package
[12:48] <LinuxJones> Belboz99: don't you have to use the Unix Priniting for Windows or something in the add printer dialog in windows ?
[12:48] <farous> sorry fglrinof
[12:48] <farous> mm
[12:48] <Arafangi1n> theD3viL: Define "graphical"
[12:48] <Laz> where can i get dapper?
[12:48] <farous> mark fglrinfo
[12:48] <Belboz99> LinuxJones, I've done it before and I don't recall that
[12:48] <Arafangi1n> theD3viL: Graphical is not neccessarily better.
[12:48] <theD3viL> Arafangi1n: graphical or text?
[12:49] <LinuxJones> jjjjjjj: they are fun, real geeky stuff :)
[12:49] <mark_> farous, what is the apt-get for the FireGL package
[12:49] <theD3viL> Arafangi1n: i know ;) ..
[12:49] <Arafangi1n> theD3viL: Installers are fundamentally text.
[12:49] <bimberi> tell mr-russ about gpgerr
[12:49] <bimberi> !tell mr-russ about gpgerr
[12:49] <farous> mark_: you need to uninstall what you installed first
[12:49] <wastrel> i think you can share 'nix printers with 'doze using samba
[12:49] <theD3viL> Arafangi1n: good then, for ubuntu.
[12:49] <bimberi> heh, here i am trying to save channel traffic :P
[12:49] <farous> mark and it is xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:49] <mark_> how would I uninstall it?
[12:49] <mr-russ> ubotu: gpgerr
[12:49] <ubotu> well, gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[12:49] <wastrel> bimberi:  you can /msg the bot :] 
[12:50] <jjjjjjj> my main reason is i want to see if the google guy says anything about the rumour that google is using ubuntu inhouse.
[12:50] <bimberi> wastrel: i'm !tell-ing though
[12:50] <wastrel> bimberi:  tell works in msg
[12:50] <mr-russ> the bot doesn't exactly have an explantion for the problem, just the fix.
[12:50] <bimberi> wastrel: yes, but others don't know that someone has responded to a question
[12:50] <theD3viL> what is different in xorg modular ...and xorg  ?
[12:51] <Rent-2-Pwn> i need help with installing wine under ubuntu
[12:51] <RememberPOL> Does anybody have a Sager NP5720?
[12:51] <ubuntu> msg/korn
[12:51] <mr-russ> this gpg error, is that because the key expires, or something.  what reason does it have to becoming invalid?
[12:51] <wastrel> ok i need to be able to detect whether my laptop is online or not via a script - is there a simple method to check?
[12:51] <jjjjjjj> can i add a language to my install and have one user run english and the other user a different language?
[12:51] <RememberPOL> Or has anyone successfully configured Ubuntu with an Azalia sound card?
[12:51] <mr-russ> wastrel: explain "online"
[12:52] <wastrel> mr-russ:  have a connection to the internet
[12:52] <amphi> wastrel: ping google.com ;)
[12:52] <farous> mark_: it say your card is supported
[12:53] <Arafangi1n> theD3viL: In ubuntu's case, though, they probably inherited the text based installer from debian.
[12:53] <mr-russ> if `ping -c1 google.com` then;
[12:53] <Rent-2-Pwn> i cant seem to install wine, i added the repository in synaptic but all that shows up is the documentation
[12:53] <mark_> thanks farous
[12:53] <mr-russ> but that relies on DNS working icmp working, and being connected.
[12:53] <Arafangi1n> theD3viL: And debian has text based installers because of portability reasons.
[12:53] <farous> now did you reboot after installing the drivers
[12:53] <lnx_> my fan continually runs, is there anyway to turn it off?
[12:53] <theD3viL> Arafangi1n: portability means?
[12:54] <farous> and there is the 8.22.5 which i have and older drivers which one you installed
[12:54] <farous> mark_: use synaptic to find out search on fglrx
[12:54] <Rent-2-Pwn> i cant seem to install wine, i added the repository in synaptic but all that shows up is the documentation
[12:54] <jjjjjjj> found this on the net.... what would i type if i wanted to see for gnome?
[12:54] <jjjjjjj> sudo apt-cache search language-pack-kde
[12:55] <xpl0it_> How do I remove a directory that has subdirectories in it?
[12:55] <lnx_> my fan continually runs, is there a way to turn it off?
[12:55] <mark_> okay farous
[12:55] <Rent-2-Pwn> lnx_: unplug it or wire a switch
[12:55] <theD3viL> what is different in xorg modular ...and xorg  ?
[12:56] <xpl0it_> How do you remove a directory with subdirectories in it?
[12:56] <Rent-2-Pwn> i cant seem to install wine, i added the repository in synaptic but all that shows up is the documentation
[12:56] <llODxCOll> right click delete
[12:56] <wastrel> xpl0it:  man rm
[12:56] <llODxCOll> quiet
[12:56] <jjjjjjj> as i figured... sudo apt-cache search language-pack-gnome
[12:56] <bimberi> xpl0it: rm -r (use with care)
[12:56] <lnx_> Rent-2-Pwn, it's a laptop, is there anyway to change a configuration setting, it didn't do this with hoary
[12:56] <farous> xpl0it_: rm -rf <dir name> use wisely
[12:56] <llODxCOll> you can't run wine as an actual program
[12:56] <xpl0it_> .
[12:56] <xpl0it_> ty
[12:57] <Se7h> how can i stop my external hard drive from going to 'sleep' mode ?
[12:57] <Rent-2-Pwn> the instructions for installing it said to add the repository and install the package "wine" but all i see is "wine-doc"
[12:57] <llODxCOll> se7h: hit it with a hammer
[12:57] <Se7h> ahah
[12:57] <xpl0it_> Anyone play Anarchy Online on ubuntu?
[12:57] <nbjayme> anybody here able to capture a stream from an online radio?  I wud like to record those from www.fatimaradio.org. i can listen using totem. i was hoping to listen and at the same time record the stream. :)
[12:57] <llODxCOll> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:57] <Se7h> llODxCOll i thought of that already
[12:57] <lnx_> how can i stop my fan from continually running?
[12:57] <allan> hey, is the fonts folder in your home folder by default, or do you have to create it?
[12:58] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn: you have universe enabled?
[12:58] <mark_> lnx_, unplug it :D
[12:58] <Se7h> but i dont think it will be a good ideaa for my data
[12:58] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: i dont know?
[12:58] <Se7h> lol
[12:58] <LinuxJones> Belboz99: sorry I messed your comment earlier >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=printing&titlesearch=Titles
[12:58] <mark_> it's safe to do even when your computer is turned on
[12:58] <mark_> i do it all the time
[12:58] <lnx_> mark_: it's a laptop
[12:58] <mark_> ah
[12:58] <mark_> that's a bit more difficult then
[12:58] <Arafangi1n> theD3viL: Until recently, being able to run on anything from the m68k
[12:58] <Arafangi1n>  theD3viL Recently...  afaik, the m68k has been... diplomatically retired.
[12:58] <lnx_> mark_: is there a configuration setting i can change?
[12:58] <Rent-2-Pwn> if its a laptop it could easily overheat if you unplug its fan
[12:58] <mark_> I wouldn't know, sorry :(
[12:58] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn: are you familiar with apt-get + sources.list, or do you use synaptic?
[12:59] <Rent-2-Pwn> i use synaptic but i can learn
[12:59] <allan> hey, is the fonts folder in your home folder by default, or do you have to create it?
[12:59] <Rent-2-Pwn> ive tried running  apt-get install wine and get an error
[12:59] <Se7h> any help would be great
[12:59] <lampshade> Out of curiosity, how come firefox 1.5  isn't in the repositories?  Did something happen license wise or something?
[12:59] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html and follow the first step in particular.
[12:59] <dabaR> lampshade: it was released after breezy.
[01:00] <dabaR> lampshade: only apps released before a ubuntu release make it into the repo for that release
[01:00] <lampshade> ahh
[01:00] <wastrel> !firefox1.5
[01:00] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:01] <sethk> hey, all, my package manager is unhappy.  it says   "stat (2 No such file or directory) for a bunch of things, such as "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists"
[01:01] <lnx_> anyone know the configuration file to turn the fan off?
[01:01] <sethk> there are six of those
[01:01] <lampshade> is there a way to turn down the sensitivity of my touchpad?  It keeps interupting my typing since it thinks I'm touching it.
[01:01] <Se7h> lampshade or just turn into dapper ;)
[01:01] <dabaR> sethk: you have been here long enough to know to post that to pastebin... post the error, and sources.list
[01:01] <christian> how to Disable ip6 in Ubuntu
[01:02] <dabaR> christian: on what level?
[01:02] <sethk> dabaR, never mind, I fixed it
[01:02] <dabaR> well good work
[01:02] <sethk> dabaR, the post wouldn't have helped you.  all the lines were of exactly the same format.
[01:02] <christian> for web browinsing
[01:02] <christian> its slow for me
[01:02] <mark_> hmm, I can't see the fglrx info packages on synaptic
[01:03] <mark_> meh. I'm going to try reconfigure the X.org conf
[01:03] <mark_> brb
[01:03] <dabaR> christian: firefox? url: about:config change it there
[01:03] <ArthurB> Hi, I can't have the network working and I don't really know where the problem lies
[01:03] <theshibboleth> some program is using port 1171, and I don't know what it is.
[01:03] <jjjjjjj> i added spanish like this....  is that all there is to it?     sudo apt-get install language-pack-gnome-es
[01:03] <christian> already did....bout 10% faster
[01:03] <bimberi> !ipv6disable
[01:03] <ubotu> I guess ipv6disable is http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2005-May/013585.html
[01:03] <ArthurB> dmesg tells me eth0 is tied to the e100 driver which is loaded, but launching dhclient yields a bunch of "network is down" errors
[01:04] <ArthurB> ( yes the cable is plugged -in )
[01:04] <dabaR> ArthurB: be very specific, and someone may know what you should do.
[01:04] <biovore> ArthurB: try dhcpcd -i eth0
[01:05] <christian> /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:05] <ArthurB> just got dhclient
[01:05] <dabaR> jjjjjjj: I am sure they will know much more about this in the spanish channel, and their web site
[01:05] <christian> where is this file to edit?
[01:05] <mark_> what's the command for fglrx
[01:05] <mark_> config
[01:05] <theshibboleth> What's a good program for blocking ports?
[01:05] <mark_> fglrxconfig
[01:05] <mark_> :\
[01:05] <ArthurB> but it sends some dhcpdiscover and then says network is down
[01:05] <wastrel> fglrxconfig
[01:05] <mark_> what be that command
[01:05] <sethk> What's the apt-get or dpkg syntax to look for a file name?  Not a package name, a file name?
[01:05] <mark_> thanks wastrel
[01:05] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: i did what that site said and i still dont see it
[01:05] <lnx_> any ideas for stopping the fan from running all the time?
[01:05] <tony__> Good evening guys...
[01:05] <slvmchn> what's the ubuntu equivalent of "ipconfig /all"
[01:06] <slvmchn> so i can see what port i'm on?
[01:06] <shikamaru85> can anyone tell me how to install my asus WL-167G usb dongle on my just installed ubuntu system?
[01:06] <sethk> ArthurB, I would run a package sniffer and see what's going on on the network.  it's about the only way to figure out the difficult problems.
[01:06] <ArthurB> ifconfig -a
[01:06] <amphi> slvmchn: ifconfig -a perhaps
[01:06] <slvmchn> my roommate needs to set up his firewall so i can play enemy territory
[01:06] <wastrel> ifconfig maybe
[01:06] <ArthurB> the network is fine, this machine iss on the same network
[01:06] <sethk> slvmchn, ifconfig
[01:06] <ArthurB> it's a new machine I'm trying to set up
[01:06] <bimberi> christian: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases  - it did say that, or do you not have that?
[01:06] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn: open a terminal. run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:06] <sethk> slvmchn, ifconfig -a will give more info, but you probably don't need the -a; you certainly don't need it just to get your ip address
[01:06] <dimasta> hello!
[01:06] <ArthurB> so no, the nework is "not" down
[01:06] <soundray> lnx_, laptop?
[01:06] <mark_> here, see when configuring two monitors in fglrxconfig. is it better to use the "big desktop" option or the "dual head" option
[01:06] <christian> where to find it ?
[01:06] <lnx_> soundray: yes
[01:06] <slvmchn> is that all i need to get it set up for me?
[01:06] <slvmchn> i just give him my ip?
[01:07] <slvmchn> i can't connect to any games online atm, that's all i need to fix
[01:07] <soundray> lnx_, do you have any entries in /proc/acpi/fan/ ?
[01:07] <sethk> ArthurB, you need to find out whether you are getting dhcp answers that are somehow "wrong", or not getting answers at all.  that's why I suggest the package trace.
[01:07] <tony__> How do I get my Video resolution off of 640x480?
[01:07] <ArthurB> hum, receive_packet also fails
[01:07] <bimberi> christian: open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases"
[01:07] <dabaR> tony__: you fixres.
[01:07] <lnx_> soundray: no, the directory is empty
[01:07] <jjjjjjj> thx dabaR... i'll pass that along.
[01:07] <dabaR> ubotu: tell tony__ about fixres
[01:08] <shikamaru85> can anyone tell me what i need to intall / do for my asus WL_167G usb wireless network adapter to be recognized?
[01:08] <christian> nice...thanx
[01:08] <garnett>  hi i have installer ubuntu on an extern usb hard drive, but my laptop cant boot on usb devices and dont have internal hard disk, someone knows a bootable cd that permit to boot on the usb device?
[01:08] <bimberi> christian: yw :)
[01:08] <soundray> lnx_, then your fans are controlled by the BIOS. If you're lucky, there's a linux program to control it, anyway... What make laptop?
[01:08] <ArthurB> I'm not receiving any answers at all
[01:08] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: do you know what chipset u have, lsusb -vvv
[01:08] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: its pasted
[01:08] <i3dmaster> got problem mounting/smbclient to win2k3 smbfs. anyone can help
[01:09] <mark_> hmm, should I enable AGP locked option in fglrxconfig?
[01:09] <mark_> or should I set it as 'no@
[01:09] <mark_> "no"
[01:09] <lnx_> soundray: it's old but good, gateway solo 5300
[01:09] <nine5102> anyone care to help me install ubuntu on vmware workstation?
[01:09] <lnx_> soundray: do you know of any programs that can control the bios?
[01:09] <jaypee_> how do i get rid of menu item that has root permissions on it
[01:09] <christian> edited file for ip6
[01:09] <mark_> hmm, should I enable AGP locked option in fglrxconfig?
[01:09] <soundray> lnx_, hold on...
[01:09] <christian> gonna reboot with results...
[01:09] <shikamaru85> robotgeek: the code is 0b05:1706
[01:10] <mark_> hmm, should I enable AGP locked option in fglrxconfig?
[01:10] <wastrel> l8r
[01:10] <mark_> ubotu, AGP locked
[01:10] <ubotu> mark_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:10] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: moment
[01:10] <shikamaru85> robotgeek: tks so much
[01:11] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and make the file look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8922. then save it and close. then run "sudo aptitude update" did you reload your package list after changing the repository list? run sudo apt-get update first of all
[01:11] <mark_> k, restartin x'
[01:11] <mark_> :D
[01:12] <unperson> I'm having an odd problem with my flash card.  I was able to read and write to it fine over the weekend, then when I plugged it in this morning it said I didn't have permission to write to the flash card.  AFAIK I have not changed any relivant configuration.
[01:13] <unperson> I seem to have write permission to the mount point, but when I looked at /etc/mtab and it said the card was mounted read-only.
[01:13] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: replace that whole sources.list with the paste thing you gave?
[01:13] <unperson> So, I did sudo umount and sudo mount -w (to mount read-write), and I got this message, "mount: block device /dev/sdc1 is write-protected but explicit `-w' flag given".  Why is this happening/what do I do now?
[01:14] <ryanakca> how do you stop KDE to go to plain shell, without X running? like plain terminal
[01:14] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[01:14] <soundray> lnx_, sorry, I don't think there's a way to control the fan on your laptop. There is a program for certain Toshiba laptops, but none for Gateway apparently.
[01:14] <sethk> ryanakca, you mean permanently, or just for a particular run?
[01:14] <ryanakca> just for a particular run
[01:15] <lnx_> soundray: is there a way to change the temperature it gets activated on or anything of that nature?
[01:15] <dabaR> yes.
[01:15] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn:
[01:15] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: the rt2570 driver should work too, i guess
[01:15] <ryanakca> sethk: its for while I run "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:15] <moonunit> _jason, are you there?
[01:15] <ryanakca> sethk: so, just for a particular run
[01:15] <Belboz99> Hey, Windows won't accept my Linux printer drivers, any ideas?
[01:15] <sethk> ryanakca, you can probably just do init 1
[01:16] <soundray> lnx_, possibly in the bios setup. Do you still have Windows on that machine?
[01:16] <ryanakca> init 1???
[01:16] <sethk> ryanakca, that puts you in single user mode also, but that's a good thing for a dist upgrade
[01:16] <lnx_> soundray: no, I only have ubunu
[01:16] <lnx_> ubuntu*
[01:16] <ArthurB> ok, that's fun... I booted a gentoo livecd and the network is working... well at least it means the network card isn't ooo
[01:16] <ryanakca> sethk: how do you get to init 1?
[01:17] <biovore> oO
[01:17] <mlins> Ok..I tried the forums with no luck.  I get this error message when trying to load ANY program via the console(just to see what's going on..can't load from the menu either) Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:17] <mlins> Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached
[01:17] <mlins> : cannot connect to X server :0.0
[01:17] <mlins>   I only get this every once in a while, I have to restart X to fix it.  What's going on?
[01:17] <robotgeek> mlins, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:17] <christian> is there a way to update firefox to 1.5 through apt-get?
[01:17] <mlins> sorry for the paste
[01:17] <dabaR> mlins: what do you do to get it?
[01:18] <soundray> lnx_, could it be that the fan is always on by design?
[01:18] <moonunit> can someone hook me up with the ubotu message about restricted file formats, i need the win32 codecs
[01:18] <dabaR> oh
[01:18] <spikebike> actually I'd like to update to firefox-1.5 32 bit (on an amd64)
[01:18] <mlins> nothing...it happens after I have had my desktop running for about 2 days
[01:18] <lnx_> soundray: no because when i had hoary on and when it used to have windows it, the fan only came on when it was needed
[01:18] <dabaR> mlins: do yuo run gui programs with sudo?
[01:18] <soundray> !tell moonunit about restricted
[01:18] <bimberi> ubotu tell moonunit about restricted
[01:18] <mlins> it seems to happen when I have a lot of windows open
[01:18] <moonunit> thank you.
[01:18] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: when running apt-get update i get this error "http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/drivers/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" should i just remove that repository?
[01:18] <mlins> but doesn't help when I close them
[01:18] <christian> is there a way to update?
[01:19] <christian> firefox?
[01:19] <dabaR> yes Rent-2-Pwn
[01:19] <mlins> I have not tried to run GUI programs with sudo
[01:19] <rewt_> whats the command to kill gdesklets
[01:19] <bimberi> christian: not through apt, but there is ...
[01:19] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[01:19] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:19] <soundray> lnx_, then there is hope yet...
[01:19] <shikamaru85> robotgeek: i've been there and my dongle isn't on the supported cards list http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Hardware
[01:19] <christian> how?
[01:19] <lnx_> soundray: i hope so
[01:19] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Asus&zoek=brandname
[01:19] <bimberi> christian: the link posted by ubotu above
[01:20] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: ok should i see wine now or am i not done?
[01:20] <soundray> lnx_, try 'dmesg | grep -i acpi' and see if it tries to load ACPI and fails.
[01:20] <Belboz99> Hey, should I enable WINS Support in smb.conf?  I'm trying to connect a Linux printer to a Windows machine
[01:20] <fuubu> >>>>>>>buy pixel puer 1cent<<<<<<
[01:21] <fuubu> http://www.100dollarhomepage.er1.be
[01:21] <fuubu> >>>Own a piece of internet history<<<
[01:21] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn: did you sudo aptitude update?
[01:21] <dabaR> woo
[01:21] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: yes
[01:21] <soundray> lnx_, you can put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you'd like me to have a look at it.
[01:21] <dabaR>  >>>>>>>buy pixel puer 1cent<<<<<<
[01:21] <dabaR> I want that
[01:21] <mark_> got my dual heads working, kinda. but I want 'big desktop' so I can drag and drop things into the other monitor etc. but one screen stays grey and wont let me drag anything into it :\
[01:21] <mark_> can someone help me
[01:21] <mark_> :o
[01:21] <lnx_> soundray: what should i put the output of?
[01:21] <dabaR> >>>>>>>buy pixel puer 1cent<<<<<<
[01:21] <dabaR> sorry
[01:21] <shikamaru85> robotgeek: seems to say otherwise :P
[01:21] <nitin> hey guys im trying to install a new DSDT but the instructions are really vague can anyone help me through it
[01:22] <soundray> lnx_, ^^ try 'dmesg | grep -i acpi' and see if it tries to load ACPI and fails.
[01:22] <bimberi> dabaR: you have a spamming career beckoning :P
[01:22] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: asus card, right?
[01:22] <IdleOne> !xfce
[01:22] <ubotu> I guess xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[01:22] <rewt_> whats the command to kill gdesklets
[01:22] <shikamaru85> robotgeek: yup, a WL-167G usb
[01:22] <pianoboy3333> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755089
[01:23] <IdleOne> !fluxbox
[01:23] <pianoboy3333> Help me out here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755089
[01:23] <ubotu> fluxbox is probably a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[01:23] <lekvar> Is anyone here familliar with the pcmcia ethernet card recognition problem?  It's definitely crimping my install attempt to not be able to activate the network...
[01:24] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: it says on that page, with the exact device parameters?
[01:24] <TiG4> For some reason my audio has sounded strange. It peaks really early but when my speakers are turned down. Like the OS Volume is WAY TOO LOUD but the speakers are just fine.
[01:24] <dabaR> Rent-2-Pwn: so, is it installed?
[01:24] <warty_> hola
[01:24] <anna> hello
[01:24] <TiG4> For some reason my audio has sounded strange. It peaks really early but when my speakers are turned down. Like the OS Volume is WAY TOO LOUD but the speakers are just fine. Any ideas anyone?
[01:24] <CHINATAHOM> HOLA
[01:24] <lnx_> soundray: here's a URL to the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9009
[01:24] <argentina> 7vtyvt6vt
[01:24] <dabaR> HOLA BACK
[01:24] <argentina> hola
[01:24] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: under synaptic i still only see "wine-doc"
[01:25] <anna> hola soy de mexico
[01:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> so i dont know
[01:25] <shikamaru85> robotgeek: yup
[01:25] <dabaR> all 3?
[01:25] <warty_> hola alguin de veracruz
[01:25] <argentina> hola cinatom
[01:25] <warty__> hi
[01:25] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: then it should work :)
[01:25] <anna> alguien quiere hablar conmigo
[01:25] <dabaR> warty live?
[01:25] <bogoff> After installing this 'w32codec' pack/thing, I still can't play WMV files in 'Totem' or 'Helix'? When I do run Totem and luanch the file, it skips right from the beginning of the vidoe to the last minute and plays some sounds - Helix says it can't play the file format.
[01:25] <CHINATAHOM> JAJAJJA ARGENTINA
[01:25] <warty_> no nadie
[01:25] <CHINATAHOM> KE ONDA
[01:25] <argentina> soy lesvia na y tu
[01:25] <CHINATAHOM> JAJAJAJ
[01:25] <argentina> jajajajjajaja
[01:25] <warty__> sammy
[01:25] <Pygi> !ops
[01:25] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[01:25] <anna> jajaja que perversa eres
[01:25] <shikamaru85> robotgeek: tks i'll try it out....tks again!
[01:25] <anna> somos
[01:25] <Pygi> !ops
[01:25] <jmpb> anna
[01:25] <warty_> no manches
[01:25] <CHINATAHOM> JAJAJA
[01:26] <warty_> ???
[01:26] <anna> hola
[01:26] <argentina> jajaj
[01:26] <jmpb> anna
[01:26] <CHINATAHOM> ANNA YA CONOSES A LA ARGENTINA
[01:26] <argentina>  en serio
[01:26] <Pygi> thanks nalioth
[01:26] <argentina>  no me cres
[01:26] <anna> de heccho argentina y chinatahom tambien son
[01:26] <anna> de hecho somos un trio
[01:26] <bogoff> Anyone assist me at all?
[01:26] <jmpb> anna
[01:26] <Pygi> nalioth, anna as well...CHINATAHOM as well...
[01:26] <TiG4> !audio
[01:26] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TiG4
[01:26] <lnx_> soundray: that help at all?
[01:26] <warty__> hi everybody I`m new at this.
[01:27] <TiG4> !sound
[01:27] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:27] <soundray> lnx_, did you go from hoary to breezy via update or reinstall?
[01:27] <jmpb> hola
[01:27] <lnx_> soundray: reinstall
[01:27] <CHINATAHOM> HOLA
[01:27] <Pygi> nalioth: again :-/
[01:27] <jmpb> que hases aparte de estar aqui
[01:28] <elkbuntu> faaaaaaaar out
[01:28] <nalioth> lovely
[01:28] <Pygi> huh, congrats nalioth
[01:28] <lucaas> beagle is nice, but it feels like it only indexes my home, is it so?
[01:28] <lampshade> Can anyone recommend a program for displaying images and sorting, etc?  Looking for a program like Picasa
[01:29] <dabaR> pah
[01:29] <lucaas> lampshade, maybe f-spot?
[01:29] <soundray> lnx_, I would have suggested going back to a hoary kernel, but I don't know if that will wreak havoc.
[01:29] <nitin> crap, i think i accidently deleted initramfs.conf in /etc/mkinitramfs/ - what package do i need to reinstall
[01:29] <lnx_> soundray: i would imagine that it would
[01:30] <lnx_> soundray: i can't believe there's not a setting that can be changed
[01:30] <soundray> lampshade, there was a review in LWN: lwn.net/Articles/131394/
[01:30] <TiG4> How would I go about UPGRADING from Breezy to Dapper without a clean install?
[01:30] <lucaas> aha, found what i was looking for already :>
[01:31] <christian> how can i optomize ubuntu for my 333mhx k6 machine?
[01:31] <soundray> lnx_, there may well be.
[01:31] <christian> i alrady disabled start-up servies
[01:31] <TiG4> How would I go about UPGRADING from Breezy to Dapper without a clean install?How would I go about UPGRADING from Breezy to Dapper without a clean install?
[01:31] <soundray> lnx_, I suspect if fan control broke when you went from hoary to breezy, the kernel is at fault.
[01:31] <TiG4> Sorry for double post
[01:31] <robotgeek> TiG4: why do you want to do that? are you sure you want to do that?
[01:32] <TiG4> Yes
[01:32] <bimberi> robotgeek: lol lol
[01:32] <Kyral> TiG4: sudo sed s/breezy/dapper /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <shikamaru85> quick question...when i try su and enter the supposed pass...it never accepts..any ideas?
[01:32] <Kyral> I think
[01:32] <Kyral> ubotu tell shikamaru85 about root
[01:32] <hd420> whenever I enable apache modules and restart it, it dies with SIGTERM
[01:32] <Kyral> Any sed gurus wanna check my command
[01:33] <robotgeek> Kyral: you need a correct sudo, the sed needs quotes i think
[01:33] <lnx_> is there a way to add a file to /proc/acpi/fan that would control the fan?
[01:33] <aaron_> hey all!
[01:33] <christian> what can i do to tweak ubuntu for this 333mhx machine?
[01:33] <soundray> lnx_, no, not if all indications are that ACPI is completely broken, like in your case.
[01:33] <aaron_> mind a quick "pop in" question?
[01:33] <tatters> whats a good file sharing program for ubuntu?
[01:33] <mark_> got my two monitors working
[01:34] <christian> aaron ask plz
[01:34] <nitin> crap, i think i accidently deleted initramfs.conf in /etc/mkinitramfs/ - what package do i need to reinstall
[01:34] <mark_> problem is now though, I want to have it so that they have a resoloutoin similar to what 2034/758 was with only one monitor
[01:34] <soundray> lnx_, what's your uptime at present?
[01:34] <mark_> can someone help me
[01:34] <aaron_> if a Live CD doesn't pick up my network card is it sage to assume the full install won
[01:34] <aaron_> t either?
[01:34] <pianoboy3333> Who here uses dapper and it is working fine for them (as in OpenOffice, printing and the internet works)?
[01:34] <lnx_> soundray: how do i check?
[01:34] <christian> yea
[01:34] <soundray> lnx_, 'uptime'
[01:34] <mark_> the main reason I want to do this is so the refresh rate isn't so low that it stings my eyes
[01:34] <Kyral> pianoboy3333: me
[01:34] <christian> yea aaron
[01:35] <Kyral> then again my system, by all accounts, should be horribly broken
[01:35] <robotgeek> pianoboy3333: me too
[01:35] <pianoboy3333> Anyone else?
[01:35] <Kyral> what with all the mix of breezy, Sid, Dapper, and custom compiled packs
[01:35] <aaron_> dang!
[01:35] <christian> how do i tweak ubuntu for ym older machine
[01:35] <aaron_> looks like I need to shaop for anew wireless adapter then
[01:35] <Kyral> !lowmem
[01:35] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral
[01:35] <Kyral> ...
[01:36] <Kyral> bah
[01:36] <christian> cuz i dunt wanna go back to win98
[01:36] <adam_> Hi, im new to ubuntu or any linux. does anyone have any tips
[01:36] <Kyral> christian: use a low mem WM (Like Fluxbox
[01:36] <Kyral> adam_: on?
[01:36] <adam_> generl stuff
[01:36] <Kyral> ....
[01:36] <bimberi> TiG4, Kyral: sed s/breezy/dapper/ /etc/apt/sources.list | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:36] <adam_> general
[01:36] <Kyral> welcome mister vague...
[01:36] <lnx_> soundray:  18:41:34 up 10:41,  2 users,  load average: 0.17, 0.18, 0.29
[01:36] <soundray> adam_, cli is a good place to start. Listen to ubotu:
[01:36] <ompaul> !dapper
[01:36] <ubotu> well, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[01:36] <SimonW> hi all - does Ubuntu have a GUI equivalent of 'top' anywhere?
[01:36] <Kyral> !terminal
[01:36] <TiG4> bimberi, yeah got it thanks :)
[01:37] <soundray> !tell adam_ about cli
[01:37] <adam_> what is cli
[01:37] <bimberi> TiG4: np :)
[01:37] <Kyral> Command Line Interfacew
[01:37] <TiG4> bimberi, is dapper really that unstable?
[01:37] <Kyral> Aka, the Terminal
[01:37] <adam_> oj
[01:37] <TiG4> Flight 4?
[01:37] <adam_> ok
[01:37] <ompaul> bimberi, can u point out the downside when your talking about dapper
[01:37] <Kyral> the kernel breaking on me
[01:37] <biovore> SimonW: try apt-get install gtop
[01:37] <Kyral> lol
[01:37] <SimonW> ta biovore
[01:38] <sovin> question: I've been researching the effects of the two delete commands, rm and shred. In both it says in the --help, that the files are still recoverable or have a chance for recovery.  Does that mean that diskspace is still being consumed?
[01:38] <TiG4> Kyral, is Dapper really that unstable?
[01:38] <Kyral> almost every reboot right now I have to drop to recovery and do apt-get install --reinstall linux-image
[01:38] <ompaul> TiG4, it could die in 10 seconds or be cool through to release but my guess is somewhere inbetween which can be problem
[01:38] <Kyral> TiG4: the problem also exists in Sid
[01:38] <tatters> im lokking for something like limewire / bearshare / winmx type file sharing client for breezy
[01:38] <TiG4> Kyral, Sid?
[01:38] <biovore> sovin: No.. a remove operation on linux just marks the file blocks as free
[01:38] <Kyral> TiG4: I have heard it is fixed for the 386 and 686 kernels
[01:38] <tatters> but not bittorrent
[01:38] <Kyral> TiG4: Debian Sid
[01:38] <adam_> Does anyone know if 3ds max works on ubuntu
[01:38] <soundray> lnx_, it may be worth rebooting and checking dmesg | grep -i acpi again to see the messages from the early boot phase.
[01:38] <sovin> biovore: so it is 'waiting' to be overwritten?
[01:38] <TiG4> Kyral, Ah, does Dapper F4 have new Gnome?
[01:39] <biovore> yup
[01:39] <AUCI> Hello ppl, I just installed ubunto for the first time and im in love
[01:39] <sovin> biovore: and not actually.. say.. 'cleaned?'
[01:39] <Kyral> TiG4: I dunno about the LiveCD
[01:39] <biovore> nope not cleaned
[01:39] <lnx_> soundray: that will have to wait, i can't break from the work i'm doing
[01:39] <soundray> lnx_, you may also get them immediately with 'grep -i acpi /var/log/syslog'. Feel free to post to pastebin again.
[01:39] <djmaster13> hi
[01:39] <biovore> so you can recover loast inodes if needed
[01:39] <AUCI> But how do i install Nvidia drivers?
[01:39] <pianoboy3333> I need printer help here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755089
[01:39] <Kyral> but my GNOME Version (This thing is Dist-Upgraded from Breezy the day the Dapper repos opened) is like 2.13.99
[01:39] <lnx_> soundray: i guess thx anyway
[01:39] <Rent-2-Pwn> dabar: you there
[01:39] <sovin> biovore: hm, so shred is useful then?
[01:39] <djmaster13> re termitor
[01:40] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Ok, I have a Q. Dapper Drake F4 installs from a LiveCD - will I have an install option from both the Install CD and Live CD, or just one?
[01:40] <soundray> lnx_, you may also get them immediately with 'grep -i acpi /var/log/syslog'. Feel free to post to pastebin again.
[01:40] <biovore> I guess I never used it
[01:40] <sovin> biovore: ah, that explains how it works.. would you be aware if shred has an option to delete directories?
[01:40] <djmaster13> termitor, tu as vue, c'est imprsionant !
[01:40] <TiG4> Kyral, not LiveCD but InstallCD
[01:40] <biovore> check the man page..
[01:40] <Kyral> Nunquam_Fidelis: There will be an installer icon on the desktop
[01:40] <sovin> kk, thanks anyways -- i did, didn't notice if there was one or not though.
[01:40] <Kyral> Nunquam_Fidelis: Thanks for reminding me to write the docs...
[01:40] <Bain> Is there any way to get GNOMEs file manager to work like Krusader, with the two panel style?
[01:40] <biovore> shred isn't a standard unix tool
[01:40] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Kyral: Of the LiveCD, Kyral?
[01:41] <pianoboy3333> Nunquam_Fidelis: yes
[01:41] <bmwboy456> 3ds max does NOT work on ubuntu.
[01:41] <Kyral> Nunquam_Fidelis: the new install process
[01:41] <tatters> does breezy have suppoted p2p client apart from bittorrent?
[01:41] <AUCI> whats the difference of AI VS BSD drivers, wich one s should i download?
[01:41] <Kyral> Time to break out a LiveCD and Gnome-Screenshot
[01:41] <soundray> tatters, I don't know -- but do you know about apt-cache search ?
[01:42] <biovore> tatters: There is azeureous
[01:42] <ssstormy> is there a way to get synaptic to stop adding "/dists/" into the middle of the urls it looks up for repos?  I have a repo without "dists" anywhere in the address, but I can't use it cause of that stupid insert!
[01:42] <Kyral> ssstormy: manually edit the list?
[01:42] <soundray> ssstormy, it's the repo that's stupid then.
[01:42] <Kyral> actually soundray is right lol
[01:42] <biovore> ssstormy: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <ssstormy> Kyral, I do.  It adds the "dists" when it contacts it
[01:42] <Kyral> Standard Debian Mirror has the dists dir
[01:43] <tatters> k ill check them out p2p/ nor filesharting dont return much in apt-cache
[01:43] <ssstormy> there's no word "dists" anywhere in the file either
[01:43] <ArthurB> I have a weird problem with my network... it worked during the installation, it works with some various linux livecd but it doesn't work after I install breezy
[01:43] <ssstormy> Kyral, well actually it does have another section that works normally, and this is technically "pool"
[01:43] <Kyral> yah
[01:43] <ArthurB> namely, running dhclient fails because each request is followd by a "network is down" error
[01:43] <ssstormy> http://search.belnet.be/packages/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/
[01:43] <Kyral> I've been studying
[01:43] <AUCI> Im a newb and I need help
[01:43] <Kyral> chem
[01:43] <soundray> tatters, 'apt-cache search peer sharing'
[01:43] <Kyral> sorry mind hurts lole
[01:44] <Kyral> okay back to work
[01:44] <tatters> ah peer sharing
[01:44] <lnx_> soundray: thanks anyway
[01:44] <soundray> lnx_, aren't you going to grep your syslog?
[01:44] <soundray> lnx_, like I suggested?
[01:44] <tatters> azeureous dont a show up my package list :(
[01:44] <AUCI> is it safe to use FLUXBOX ON ubuntu?
[01:45] <Rent-2-Pwn> azureas
[01:45] <lnx_> i can't right now, i've got to finish other work
[01:45] <Rent-2-Pwn> something like that
[01:45] <bimberi> !azureus
[01:45] <lnx_> soundray: thank you though, i appreciate it
[01:45] <ubotu> azureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[01:45] <soundray> lnx_, you don't need to reboot for that.
[01:45] <lnx_> oh-- how do i do it?
[01:45] <soundray> Quoting myself: lnx_, you may also get them immediately with 'grep -i acpi /var/log/syslog'. Feel free to post to pastebin again.
[01:46] <sethk> lnx_, how do you reboot?  :)
[01:46] <tatters> hmm peer sharing gives rough;y same results as p2p in sudo-cache search peer sharing
[01:46] <tatters> sudo apt-cache search peer sharing
[01:47] <soundray> tatters, don't overuse sudo.
[01:47] <yheve1> has anyone here had any experience with samsung-scx4216f sane external backend?
[01:47] <Cainus> hey...anyone know how to change the smb workgroup?
[01:48] <corona1> i think it's in the network config
[01:48] <soundray> Cainus, I don't know, but I'd look in /etc/samba/smb.conf first.
[01:48] <Cainus> yeah...that's prob fastest...thanks
[01:48] <corona1> anyone here use obsidian+ ?
[01:49] <lnx_> soundray: here's the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9012
[01:49] <tatters> /etc/samba/smb.conf workgroup name is default home
[01:49] <pianoboy3333> I need printer help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755089
[01:49] <tatters> change it to what u want
[01:49] <soundray> lnx_, is that with a 2.6.12 kernel?
[01:49] <soundray> lnx_, 'uname -a' to check.
[01:50] <lnx_> soundray: Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:50] <adam_> how do you start the command to open programs on the desktop with terminal
[01:50] <bmwboy456> piano: have you setup your network?
[01:50] <yheve1> Are there any sane gurus in freenode irc anyway?
[01:50] <[olli] > hmm, why is that usb 2.0 so buggy in breezy?
[01:50] <biovore> maybe
[01:51] <Arafangi1n> yheve1: There are a large number of savants.
[01:51] <biovore> but thats up for debate
[01:51] <yheve1> #sane is always empty...
[01:51] <Arafangi1n> yheve1: But no _sane_ gurus.
[01:51] <yheve1> :)
[01:51] <biovore> lol
[01:51] <soundray> nalioth, lnx_ has trouble with ACPI and breezy, where hoary worked fine. Can he go back to a hoary kernel without wrecking his system?
[01:51] <biovore> soundray: not easy
[01:51] <yheve1> but any of you 'maybe' guys know something about sane?
[01:51] <soundray> lnx_, sorry, I was guessing your gender.
[01:52] <Kr4t05> Does anyone have recommendations for setting up a webserver in Ubuntu?
[01:52] <Kr4t05> I know samba is good, but is there anything else?
[01:52] <tatters> its strange coming from XP where I could run as root to make system wide changes,and then drop back to my  user account for everday stuff
[01:52] <soundray> biovore, I thought so... hotplug and everything will suffer, right?
[01:52] <biovore> Kr4t05: apt-get install libapache2
[01:52] <bmwboy456> kr4: use apache
[01:52] <lnx_> soundray: np you got it right :)
[01:52] <biovore> soundray: maybe
[01:52] <Kr4t05> biovore, ok
[01:52] <nalioth> soundray: only if they put hoary around it
[01:52] <yheve1> I'm trying to manage an external backend which is really made the wrong way, so it seems
[01:53] <soundray> lnx_, 98% chance here I reckon :)
[01:53] <biovore> soundray: find the config file for a hoary kernel and try compiling a custom kernel
[01:53] <tatters> sudo is short for sudonym or super user do?
[01:53] <nalioth> lnx_: i suggest you visit malone and file a bug about your problem (or search for it there)
[01:53] <nalioth> tatters: superuser do
[01:53] <biovore> soundray: selinux extentions sometimes much stuff up
[01:53] <soundray> lnx_, is compiling a custom kernel an option for you?
[01:54] <Kr4t05> biovore: E: Couldn't find package libapache2
[01:54] <soundray> biovore, even acpi?
[01:54] <Arafangi1n> trappist: Hello?  Just letting you know that the -S option on tar doesn't work very well.
[01:54] <tatters> thnx
[01:54] <Arafangi1n> trappist: Just going to transfer the full thing onto removable media
[01:54] <yheve1> well, since I assume the problem is that the backend is made for a 2.4 kernel, I would like to try to install a 2.4 kernel
[01:54] <yheve1> Can I do it without compiling it myself?
[01:54] <sethk> Arafangi1n, you mean it doesn't really gain any space?
[01:54] <twitch> how can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?
[01:54] <Cainus> do I need to restart samba after a change to smb.conf? if so, how?  thanks... I know I'ma  bit off-topic now ;)
[01:55] <biovore> Kr4t05: apache2 try that
[01:55] <lnx_> soundray: i have no idea how to do that
[01:55] <bimberi> Cainus: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[01:55] <Rent-2-Pwn> when trying to install wine, i added the repository but "wine" doesnt show up, only "wine-doc"
[01:55] <tatters> no need to restart samba after changes to .conf
[01:55] <biovore> (note try apt-cache search <package>
[01:55] <twitch> how can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?
[01:55] <lnx_> soundray: and would be nervous about losing everything
[01:55] <Arafangi1n> sethk: Well, qemu is unable to read it, so osmething changes. Also, the used diskspace and 'ls' reported disc space is different.
[01:55] <bmwboy456> BUTTSECKS
[01:55] <bmwboy456> BUTTSECKS
[01:55] <bmwboy456> BUTTSECKS
[01:55] <robotgeek> !ops
[01:55] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[01:55] <navarone> !ops
[01:55] <hou5ton> I've tried this a couple of times with same results ... when putting the sticky notes and the mini-command line in the panel bar, upon subsequent restarts it will tell me they are buggy and causing a conflict, and asks if I want to delete them.  Anyone know anything about that?
[01:55] <navarone> ty
[01:55] <Cainus> bimberi: thanks!
[01:55] <twitch> how can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?
[01:55] <tatters> just give it a few for the changes to propogate through your network
[01:55] <bimberi> Cainus: np :)
[01:55] <relak> anyone can advice a good notebook? :P (no need good graphics card)
[01:56] <benplaut> thanks nalioth
[01:56] <twitch> how can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?
[01:56] <nalioth> guess today's the day
[01:56] <Arafangi1n> relak: I really like my v6v, but it is arguably a high-end laptop with a really good graphics card.
[01:56] <soundray> lnx_, it's a bit involved, but not really dangerous. ubotu knows more
[01:56] <Arafangi1n> relak: (Asus)
[01:56] <yheve1> are there pre-built packages for a 2.4 kernel?
[01:56] <soundray> !tell lnx_ about kernelcompile
[01:56] <Rent-2-Pwn> when trying to install wine, i added the repository but "wine" doesnt show up, only "wine-doc"
[01:56] <twitch> how can i send raw ftp commands with gftp?
[01:56] <yheve1> Rent-2-Pwn: what repository?
[01:57] <relak> Arafangi1n, hehe, well just want to program a bit... my limit is like 800 euro
[01:57] <nalioth> twitch: don't repeat please
[01:57] <Rent-2-Pwn> yheve1: deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[01:57] <Arafangi1n> relak: Dell laptops are extremely good value, and the warranty is amazing, but I'm not too sure what the linux compatibility is like.
[01:57] <twitch> how do i?
[01:57] <relak> Arafangi1n, i like IBM (but they are so expensive)
[01:57] <biovore> Arafangi1n: I gotten most of the to work
[01:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell twitch about repeat
[01:57] <biovore> acpi is sometimes funky
[01:57] <Arafangi1n> biovore: Would you recommend dell in the value department?
[01:57] <navarone> Does Toshiba still make laptops?
[01:57] <thepenguin> hey, im newer to linux and i have a question
[01:57] <biovore> Arafangi1n: its been a bit..
[01:57] <biovore> inspirons are supose to work
[01:57] <yheve1> Rent-2-Pwn: Did you "sudo apt-get update" ?
[01:58] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Yes.  I would classify them a safe and reliable choice, but you won't get anything impressive these days.
[01:58] <yheve1> sorry for the silly question...
[01:58] <tatters> thepengiun if your new to linux and have A question your doing well :P
[01:58] <thepenguin> Where do you type in the command to install something like a graphics driver
[01:58] <Rent-2-Pwn> yheve1: yes
[01:58] <tatters> I have many questions
[01:58] <Arafangi1n> Hmm, 10G is going to take a while to transfer at 810KB/s
[01:58] <yheve1> and can you see "wine" in aptitude?
[01:58] <nalioth> tatters: use synaptic
[01:58] <navarone> Arafangi1n, was just curious...not in the market atm...<pulls empty pockets out>
[01:58] <bimberi> thepenguin: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:58] <tatters> I do
[01:58] <thepenguin> does anyone know
[01:58] <Rent-2-Pwn> how do i check to see if wine is in aptitude?
[01:59] <Auci> ?
[01:59] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Nor am I, but for some obscure reason, just because I use linux and do programming, people are *always* asking me for laptop advise.
[01:59] <yheve1> just open a terminal and write: "sudo aptitude"
[01:59] <nalioth> Rent-2-Pwn: anything in the repos is gonna be availble via aptitude
[01:59] <tatters> lol, i have no idea of anyother wya
[01:59] <_keroppi_> Can I install ubuntu on the same partition as an existing debian installation, without formatting it? (It's 54 gigs on a 60 gig laptop drive, which is the / and /home partition, don't want to format it)
[01:59] <biovore> thepenguin: try CLI
[01:59] <thepenguin> it said no suck file or directory
[01:59] <yheve1> then press / and write "wine"
[01:59] <thepenguin> suck*
[01:59] <tatters> lol@suck
[01:59] <thepenguin> such*
[01:59] <tatters> ah
[01:59] <thepenguin> I need to learn to type first..
[01:59] <_keroppi_> It's pretty bad when you have no suck file
[02:00] <propietario> HEY
[02:00] <thepenguin> Where is CLI?
[02:00] <Rent-2-Pwn> no wine is not in sptitude
[02:00] <soundray> _keroppi_, that would get you in a mess. You could resize the partitions and make space for new ones for a parallel/dual boot install.
[02:00] <_keroppi_> I've got a suck file, win32.dll, sucks hard
[02:00] <navarone> Arafangi1n, I find most professional be they techy or mechanical  often are using lower end equipment or driving older cars...lol...go figure
[02:00] <Rent-2-Pwn> aptitude*
[02:00] <soundray> !tell thepenguin about cli
[02:00] <yheve1> you can press "n" continuously to see all the matching packages for "wine"
[02:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about wine
[02:00] <_keroppi_> soundray: Could I get in with a live cd, and move all critical directories over to *-bak?
[02:00] <lampshade> anyone else notice that their Intel Centrino machines seem to run on the louder setting of fan for longer?  My machine seems noisier
[02:00] <Arafangi1n> navarone: For a very good reason.  Professionals imho tend to be very efficient.
[02:00] <lnx_> soundray: so if i rebuild the kernal, i won't lose anything?
[02:00] <propietario> FGHGFHGFHF
[02:00] <nalioth> Rent-2-Pwn: perhaps you need to enable universe and multiverse repos
[02:00] <propietario> GFHGFHFGH
[02:00] <_keroppi_> soundray: Basically, does ubuntu let you install without formatting, provided I clear the path for it?
[02:00] <propietario> FHGFHFGH
[02:00] <catchphrase> has anyone tried dapper drake, flight four?
[02:01] <Arafangi1n> navarone: They simply don't get what they don't need for the task.
[02:01] <thepenguin> Ok, i know what CLI is now
[02:01] <interneti> is dapper stable enough to upgrade to?
[02:01] <christian> icewm is still sllow for my pc..what now>
[02:01] <thepenguin> but ive tried that
[02:01] <navarone> Arafangi1n, and probably solve their own probs...therefore have inexpensive but relaiable equipment etc
[02:01] <biovore> thepenguin: what you tring to install?
[02:01] <nalioth> propietario: vaya de el #ubuntu-es por favor
[02:01] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Though, I got my v6v, because I needed a portable laptop I could take to Games Programming lectures.
[02:01] <mark_> see my task bar
[02:01] <soundray> _keroppi_, it's not a well-tested or recommended procedure, but it may just be possible.
[02:01] <thepenguin> biovore: a nvidia graphics driver
[02:01] <mark_> allt he buttons and apps have disapeared from it
[02:01] <ubuntu> hey
[02:01] <mark_> it's just a wastepaper basket icon
[02:01] <catchphrase> interneti, not sure, downloading it via BT right now.. hope to find out soon on a spare comp :] 
[02:01] <mark_> how do i get my icons back etc
[02:01] <mark_> :\
[02:02] <biovore> thepenguin: in theory it should be "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[02:02] <Arafangi1n> navarone: It is my impresison that most first-time laptop buyers like to get the best and greatest, then after they go through a few laptops, start getting economical choices.
[02:02] <navarone> Arafangi1n,  id v6v a Sony...like vaio?
[02:02] <biovore> google ubuntu and nvidia.. I am sure there is a howto
[02:02] <Arafangi1n> navarone: It's Asus
[02:02] <soundray> lnx_, not normally, no. You can even go back to the stock kernel you are running now.
[02:02] <thepenguin> biovore: it said to type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run"
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> Any good tools for monitoring a web page for changes?  (No RSS feed available, page is .php, btw)
[02:02] <interneti> catchphrase I was just going to apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:02] <navarone> Arafangi1n, you in uk or europe?
[02:02] <christian> is the a apt-get for java
[02:02] <lnx_> soundray: i'll try that, thx
[02:02] <AJ_Riddle> Hello
[02:02] <thepenguin> biovore: i tried it with sudo
[02:02] <mark_> can someone tell me how to get the 'workspaces' icon and the icons/bars for applications back on my taskbar?
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> mark_, You need your trash back in the panel?
[02:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell christian about java
[02:02] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Practically the only things that don't work on ubuntu (by default) are the SD Ram card drive (builtin), and the FN+F8 (Change screen - have to do it manually via aticonfig)
[02:03] <catchphrase> interneti, the box i had bb5.10 on was formatted a few times. threw XP on there to test out some hardware issue. going back to ubuntu.
[02:03] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Australia
[02:03] <mark_> tonyyarusso, no everything else
[02:03] <mark_> trash is the ONLY On there
[02:03] <tatters> synchconise with windows
[02:03] <thepenguin> and it said same after i put in password
[02:03] <mark_> one*
[02:03] <biovore> thepenguin: there are 2 ways..  the nvidia method won't work unless you custom compile your kernel.. there is a package that dose this on ubuntu
[02:03] <Auci> Im getting crazy, how do I install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Haven't tested the bluetooth, burner, firewire, or infra
[02:03] <AJ_Riddle> I just installed ubuntu, and I want to update firefox to version 1.5.x, how do I do this?
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> mark_, Ah.  'k, still:  Right-click, Add to panel, then just select what you want.
[02:03] <interneti> catchphrase have fun with that
[02:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell thepenguin about nvidia
[02:03] <Arafangi1n> navarone: I purchased it for the graphics card.
[02:03] <soundray> lnx_, another thing you could try is download the Flight 4 ("beta") live CD of dapper, the next Ubuntu release, to see if that works better with your laptop.
[02:03] <navarone> Arafangi1n, ahh I see...in canada here...don't see many Asus laptops here
[02:03] <christian> tahnx
[02:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell AJ_Riddle about firefox15
[02:03] <catchphrase> Auci: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[02:03] <thepenguin> how can i install the driver
[02:03] <interneti> I have this thing where I compile even when it's not necessary
[02:03] <yheve1> Rent-2-Pwn:  well?
[02:03] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Nor here.
[02:04] <soundray> lnx_, if it does, you could consider an early upgrade.
[02:04] <Arafangi1n> navarone: It's fast becomming a dell/apple market
[02:04] <soundray> !tell lnx_ about dapper
[02:04] <tatters> AJ riddle auto-matix o0(controversial)
[02:04] <navarone> Arafangi1n, I have asus graphic card in my box...nvidia g3
[02:04] <Rent-2-Pwn> i went to add the repository again, and i clicked to this, and now i cant see where i add it and i cant close synaptic
[02:04] <Arafangi1n> navarone: I used to have an apple, but at $1300 for a repair job (new&better  laptop $1600), I wasn't too impressed and got asus instead.
[02:05] <pianoboy3333> I need printer help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755089
[02:05] <navarone> Arafangi1n, I ususally see HP and IBM lappys
[02:05] <yheve1> wow... what do you mean, you can't close synaptic?
[02:05] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Those are also relatively popular here.
[02:05] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Asus happened to have a retail point at my uni, with student discounts ;)
[02:05] <lnx_> soundray: is there a way to build the dapper kernel?
[02:05] <lnx_> soundray: you think dapper will support my fan?
[02:05] <Arafangi1n> navarone: And I was impressed with the laptops :)
[02:05] <mark_> oh god, I just deleted my panel o_O
[02:05] <christian> when i type oper in terminal this apperas
[02:05] <mark_> how would I 'undelete' my panel
[02:05] <mark_> :|
[02:05] <christian> appears
[02:05] <catchphrase> dapper drake flight 4 is well seeded. nearly peaking out my cable download speed. :D
[02:05] <relak> what do you need to pay for an IBM 1.3 GHz 256mb RAM wifi g/b & USB in your country?
[02:06] <christian> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[02:06] <christian> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[02:06] <Arafangi1n> mark_: How?
[02:06] <shikamaru85> why is my /usr/src empty...shouldn't it have kernel info?
[02:06] <pianoboy3333> mark_: if you killall gnome-panel, it should pop back up
[02:06] <FunnyLookinHat> catchphrase, dapper drake isn't out yet I thought??
[02:06] <mac__> how do I view .xhtml files? 'python2.4-opengl' deb packages all documentation in .xhtml.gz, and doesn't say how to view this stuff...
[02:06] <Arafangi1n> mark_: How did you delete the panel?
[02:06] <tatters> relak 100 used tops
[02:06] <mark_> by right clicking it and deleting it
[02:06] <soundray> lnx_, yes, if you're building a kernel anyway, I would suggest you go with 2.6.15. The reason I'm suggesting dapper...
[02:06] <pianoboy3333> mark_: or in the terminal do 'gnome-panel'
[02:06] <navarone> Arafangi1n, i really have no nedd for a laptop/notebook...but would be nice to have one...<s>
[02:06] <catchphrase> FunnyLookinHat: it's sort of in beta right now. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[02:06] <relak> tatters used "tops"?
[02:06] <lnx_> soundray: ok, i'll go for it
[02:06] <Arafangi1n> navarone: I use a laptop alot during lectures mainly.
[02:07] <tatters> second user system   top= the most I would pay
[02:07] <soundray> lnx_, is that it's just weird that breezy broke your ACPI. Things like that quite often get fixed between releases.
[02:07] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Also, it's nice to be sorta "in" the house a bit while using the computer, rather than being holed up in a remote room.
[02:07] <shikamaru85> why is my /usr/src empty...shouldn't it have kernel info?
[02:07] <catchphrase> FunnyLookinHat: throwing it on a spare system that I don't care much for, just to play around with. can't hurt much.
[02:07] <interneti> catchphrase do you think dapper is "ready" yet (in terms of stability)
[02:07] <Eleaf> lol
[02:07] <navarone> Arafangi1n, mobility has its advantages
[02:07] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Yup.
[02:07] <soundray> lnx_, remember biovore said it could be a selinux issue. Afaik that is a part of the kernel that is still developing fairly rapidly.
[02:08] <mac__> anyone know if there is a ubuntu package with opengl man pages?  used to be in xlibmesa-gl-dev, but that package no longer exists
[02:08] <catchphrase> interneti - since being announced nearly 6 months ago (september, iirc), with ETA of less than 2 months.. it can't be too far off. this release was just a few days ago.
[02:08] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Laptops are fast becomming very popular.  If, however, I was doing professional work for a long time, I would much prefer a desktop, and a nice 21" screen ;)
[02:08] <Rent-2-Pwn> how do i enable universe
[02:08] <FunnyLookinHat> catchphrase, oh coolness, I'll definitely start testing for them
[02:08] <lnx_> soundray: do you when the official release of dapper is?
[02:08] <interneti> arafangin its simple its because its " the latest and greatest"
[02:08] <soundray> !dapper
[02:08] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[02:08] <catchphrase> Rent-2-Pwn: in your synaptics package manager, options.
[02:09] <bimberi> ubuto tell Rent-2-Pwn about universe
[02:09] <lampshade> god damn multitasking is better in Linux than windows
[02:09] <navarone> Arafangi1n, I am on a Athlon 1.2 ghz with numerous addons since being bought...had for four years almost now...before that was a P166 with 80mb ram and a 3gb hdd...and 56k...i am inching my way up slowly
[02:09] <Arafangi1n> interneti: I suppose you'd use Debian Experimental if you were on debian.
[02:09] <soundray> lampshade, glad you caught onto that fact.
[02:09] <tatters> I can buy them all day long in UK at that price 1.3,,,,, I got 1.8 mhz same specs the other day for 120
[02:09] <lampshade> I'm importing like massive amounts of photos right now but windows are still snapping to my click and other stuff like that
[02:09] <Arafangi1n> navarone: Ha! I started with a C64, and a P1 90MHz :)
[02:09] <tatters> it makes sense to buy used good in PC compnents IMHO
[02:10] <soundray> lampshade, still no reason to invoke deities here... ;)
[02:10] <sethk> tatters, depends on the intended use, but certainly in many cases, it can make sense
[02:10] <lampshade> lolz
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Arafangi1n: Had a C64 here too.  Still works!
[02:10] <Rent-2-Pwn> bimberi: i didnt get that about universe?
[02:10] <tatters> if they lasted that long they will last another hundred years, ive never had any problem with used hardware only new
[02:11] <tatters> hard drives and cd they another matter
[02:11] <shikamaru85> anyone know where the symlink to the kernel is kept???
[02:11] <bimberi> ubotu tell Rent-2-Pwn about universe
[02:11] <Arafangi1n> tonyyarusso: Mine was a portable :)
[02:11] <catchphrase> the p90 used to be a floppy disk based linux router. a wireless router decided to take over, though.
[02:11] <sethk> tatters, I was about to say, if they don't have moving parts
[02:11] <navarone> Arafangi1n, first computer my family had was a trs-80...<s> back in the day when the day was long...lol
[02:11] <bimberi> Rent-2-Pwn: sorry, i can't type
[02:11] <sethk> tatters, there is eventual degradation due to heat and entropy
[02:11] <Arafangi1n> tonyyarusso: I still regret throwing it out :( (I was young and foolish then)
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> Arafangi1n: With the little four inch color screen and the keyboard that snapped onto the front as a cover?
[02:11] <lnx_> if you do apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper do you lose all your settings and files?
[02:11] <erik> Wait.. I have been out of it for a while.. Does dapper have an CD now?? is it semi-stable? Thanks
[02:12] <Arafangi1n> tonyyarusso: Yup, the model that had a catridge slot on the top and a single  5 1/4" floppy drive.
[02:12] <christian> wait till april
[02:12] <shikamaru85> where's my kernel?!?
[02:12] <soundray> lnx_, no, you don't, but it's irreversible unless you have a full backup.
[02:12] <catchphrase> erik - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> erik: There is the fourth Alpha release, which is getting there, but unless you intend to help with the developing you should probably wait.
[02:12] <lnx_> soundray: would you recommend going that way?
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> Arafangi1n: Sweet, same one.
[02:12] <frazmanw> what can I type to check which kernel I am currently running
[02:12] <bimberi> bur[n] er: Apps -> System Tools -> System Monitor provides a similar function, but yes an OOTB keyboard shortcut would be nice
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> frazmanw: 'uname -r'
[02:13] <shikamaru85> shouldn't there exist a dir like linux-2.6.12***....where is it?
[02:13] <erik> LOL Thanks- I have a 250 gig HD that I dont use harldy any of... Ill try it! Thanks!
[02:13] <frazmanw> tonyyarusso:  Thanks
[02:13] <bur[n] er> bimberi: it's not the launching of it that's a problem... if another app is hung, gnome-system-monitor takes forever to load... in windows, task manager takes precedence
[02:13] <soundray> lnx_, I cannot recommend either way, since I don't know how important it is to fix the fan, how urgently you need your laptop and how good you are at tolerating and dealing with difficulties.
[02:13] <sethk> shikamaru85, typically in /usr/src
[02:13] <sonyxp> any1 here that i could ask for help?
[02:13] <bimberi> bur[n] er: ah kk
[02:13] <tatters> I still got fully working hardware thats more than ten years old I have a 200mb hard that musta cost a 1000 in its time and its still working   ive had hard drive 18 month that died
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> sonyxp: Everyone.  Just ask.
[02:13] <Arafangi1n> soundray: I've managed to downgrade debian sid to stable, so that's not _strictly_ true ;)
[02:13] <Arafangi1n> *sigh*
[02:14] <shikamaru85> sethk: that's the prob...it should be there but /usr/src is completly empty
[02:14] <bur[n] er> bimberi: xfce4-taskmanager is faster though... but not quite as cool ;)
[02:14] <sethk> shikamaru85, maybe you need to install a kernel source package?
[02:14] <Arafangi1n> !tell sonyxp about ask
[02:14] <sonyxp> ive seen this win4lin in ---- www.win4lin.com
[02:14] <sonyxp> and
[02:14] <navarone> Arafangi1n, wtheck is  sparse file?
[02:14] <sethk> Arafangi1n, a sparse file will use compress down to a very small ordinary file
[02:14] <sonyxp> im just gona ask what to download for my ubuntu linux
[02:14] <shikamaru85> sethk: linux-386 installed from cd
[02:14] <biovore> Arafangi1n: Sparse file?
[02:15] <mjr> Arafangi1n, nfs? ;P
[02:15] <Arafangi1n> sethk: I could try that.
[02:15] <sethk> shikamaru85, the image and the source are separate packages
[02:15] <Arafangi1n> mjr: No, not nfs
[02:15] <lnx_> soundray: just to confirm, i won't lose any files or gdesklets, etc? i've never done a dist-upgrade
[02:15] <erik> Tatters- WOW! I still use my first ever computers HD- 20 gigs. Works fine! The 80 gig I got for that PC 3 years later died last month....
[02:15] <bimberi> bur[n] er: kk :)
[02:15] <Arafangi1n> Oh, scp's picked it up again.
[02:15] <shikamaru85> sethk: sorry, lost me there :P
[02:15] <frazmanw> cedega does not work with the newest Dapper kernel 2.6.15.15 works ok with 14 though. Anyone run into this?
[02:15] <tatters> yup erik
[02:15] <Kr4t05> I installed apachem, how do I run it?
[02:15] <Kr4t05> !apache
[02:15] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:16] <biovore> frazmanw: cedega shouldn't have anything to do with the kernel.. selinux maybe?
[02:16] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to enable direct rendering for an ATI video card?
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> sonyxp: What are the options available?
[02:16] <Arafangi1n> A sparse file is a file that contains a large amount of zero's, and also employs a filesystem optimization that results in a vastly reduced disk storage - only space that takes up is the data.
[02:16] <soundray> lnx_, there is no guarantee that it won't screw up. But if you lost anything it would indeed be a screwup, and that is rare in my experience with Ubuntu.
[02:16] <bur[n] er> Kr4t05: it runs on install... http://localhost
[02:16] <sethk> shikamaru85, if you want the kernel source, it is in a separate package.  when you install the kernel binary, that's what you get.  the kernel binary package if referred to as the kernel image at times
[02:16] <Arafangi1n> sethk: I'll compress it if the transfer dies again.
[02:16] <sethk> Arafangi1n, k
[02:16] <synd_> How do I install the latest Firefox?
[02:16] <lnx_> soundray: it sounds like a weekend adventure
[02:16] <bur[n] er> !firefox
[02:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell synd_ about firefox1.5
[02:16] <soundray> lnx_, I upgraded hoary to breezy months before the release, and never had a regret.
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> !tell synd_ about firefox1.5
[02:16] <sonyxp> just a minute mr.  tonyyarusso im just gona go cop it
[02:17] <Arafangi1n> sethk: Scratch that, I'll compress and restart ;)
[02:17] <frazmanw> biovore: well I know that with kernel 14 it was fine with the update to 2.6.15.15 it stopped working. If I boot back into last kernel before it is fine again
[02:17] <soundray> lnx_, it may be, but you may also be done, up and running by midday Saturday :)
[02:17] <biovore> Anyone gotten firefox1.5 working on amd64 yet?
[02:17] <synd_> tonyyarusso: Thanks.
[02:17] <biovore> frazmanw: might have to look into that and see whats different
[02:17] <clever`> would ubuntu get upset if i moved the hard drive to another pc for a day or 2 then moved it back?
[02:17] <soundray> biovore, I did once, but went back to 1.0.7
[02:17] <Rent-2-Pwn> i ticked the Showdisabledsoftwaresources button and under the repository it doesnt have universe or multiverse or anything
[02:17] <biovore> my amd64 box is using firefox-1.0.7
[02:18] <tatters> anyone got a working IDE hard drive  less than 200MB?
[02:18] <tatters> ebay?
[02:18] <clever`> i have a 40mb and 80mb harddrive
[02:18] <tatters> lol
[02:18] <tatters> 40 mb
[02:18] <soundray> biovore, same here, and to me it is one fine browser.
[02:18] <frazmanw> tatters sure in another computer... lol
[02:18] <clever`> twice the size of a normal one
[02:18] <Eleaf> nice
[02:18] <Eleaf>           /
[02:18] <sonyxp> the options available are
[02:18] <lnx_> soundray:  true...
[02:18] <sonyxp> win4lin9x.tgz ---  Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01.i386.rpm---Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01.x86_64.rpm ---win4linpro_6.2.5-01_i386.deb--- wts_installer.tgz
[02:18] <Viper550> Hello my Ubuntu-loving friends(?)!
[02:18] <EvanCarroll> Quick question not really ubuntu realated though i am using dapper-f4, If I'm not showing minimize/maximize/title bar information it is a flaw in the gnome-window-decorator? (btw i'm using/having problems with compiz)
[02:19] <christian> hey
[02:19] <Rent-2-Pwn> i ticked the Showdisabledsoftwaresources button and under the repository it doesnt have universe or multiverse or anything
[02:19] <frazmanw> tatters: I have a really old one in an old old tandy maybe 100MB lol
[02:19] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi ...
[02:19] <lnx_> soundray: will apt-get dist-upgrade automatically do the newest dapper?
[02:19] <marcin`> hello could someone tell me how to get an information about which package created/installed some file?
[02:19] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need info about working with usb...
[02:19] <tatters> :( heres me thinking I had the oldest hard drive on planet
[02:19] <IdleOne> !tell Rent-2-Pwn  about repositories
[02:19] <marcin`> I need to know which package created /etc/hosts file
[02:19] <bur[n] er> lnx_: only if you change sources.list to say dapper instead of breezy
[02:19] <Aragorn_Guardian> i see device in /proc/bus/devices
[02:19] <soundray> lnx_, but you appreciate that it's hard to make predictions -- especially about the future. (I stole that from somewhere)
[02:20] <Viper550> ummm...what bur[n] er said, I was about to say that too!
[02:20] <Aragorn_Guardian> but how can i acces it??? it dont apear in panel...
[02:20] <soundray> lnx_, yes, it will, if you replace all "breezy" occurrences in /etc/apt/sources.list with "dapper"
[02:20] <Rent-2-Pwn> idleone: ive read that
[02:20] <malverian[work] > Anyone using Dapper Drake successfully?
[02:20] <navarone> marcin I think that was created at install
[02:20] <shikamaru85> sethk: any idea of the name of the package?? i have 3 linux kernel images installed
[02:20] <Viper550> I'm still using Breezy
[02:20] <frazmanw> lnx_: it should, but it broke mine. got stuck at pcmcia but I have no pcmcia. lol I ended up doing a fresh install but kept my /home partition
[02:20] <Arafangi1n> lnx_: In general, debian-based distros perform upgrades very well.
[02:20] <IdleOne> !tell Rent-2-Pwn  about multiverse
[02:20] <sethk> shikamaru85, hold on, I'll look one up
[02:20] <marcin`> navarone: I guess so - but which package installed this file?
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> sonyxp: Well, your best shot is doing it from source (the tgz ones), although a .deb *might* work.  I'm not sure what that last file is honestly.
[02:20] <shikamaru85> sethk: tks so much
[02:20] <Aragorn_Guardian> ??usb
[02:20] <Rent-2-Pwn> idleone: ive read that
[02:20] <tatters> that 40 mb hard drive musta cost a fortune in its day
[02:20] <IdleOne> Rent-2-Pwn:  follow the wiki and you shouldnt have any problems
[02:21] <malverian[work] > I'm upgrading from breezy to dapper. I was curious if I should be warned of any major problems upgrading?
[02:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> !usb
[02:21] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:21] <sethk> tatters, I remember paying $750 for a 250K 8 inch floppy drive
[02:21] <Rent-2-Pwn> idleone: ive followed it and still dont see wine
[02:21] <lnx_> has anyone done the apt-get dist-upgrade?  how were the results?
[02:21] <IdleOne> Rent-2-Pwn:  you want to install wine?
[02:21] <malverian[work] > Namely, are a lot of people seeing this problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132815
[02:21] <tatters> lol seth u must be ancient
[02:21] <[olli] > Aragorn_Guardian, yeah. usb 2.0 sucks
[02:21] <Rent-2-Pwn> idleone: yes
[02:21] <Arafangi1n> lnx_: I perform that routinely on my debian machines, it performs very well.
[02:21] <IdleOne> !wine
[02:22] <roberto> boa noite a todos estou tentando instalar uma lib chamada libgtk2.0-dev mais o synaptic diz que tem depencia quebrada alguem aqui pode me dar uma fora
[02:22] <relak> Arafangi1n, do you know if Centrino means that wifi g/b is on-board?
[02:22] <marcin`> what is default content of /etc/hosts file? 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain somecustomhostname?
[02:22] <sethk> shikamaru85, look for packages starting with "kernel-tree"
[02:22] <navarone> marcin no idea...why so important?
[02:22] <Aragorn_Guardian> [olli] :  how can i make things work???? is a external cd, usb
[02:22] <IdleOne> !tell Rent-2-Pwn  about wine
[02:22] <frazmanw> lnx_: this looked good, but screwed up my install. maybe you will have better luck. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[02:22] <marcin`> navarone: well pretty important I'm trying to create package for some webapplication
[02:22] <soundray> lnx_, mind you, Arafangi1n can probably be classified as "wizard" or "guru".
[02:22] <marcin`> navarone: and it uses mysql-database
[02:22] <Rent-2-Pwn> idleone: i followed the directions at winehq.com about adding the repository and then installing it but instead of seeing the "wine" package i see "wine-doc"
[02:23] <marcin`> navarone: the problem is that everywhere I can use 'localhost' as hostname
[02:23] <Arafangi1n> soundray: Or "fool" :)
[02:23] <Viper550> I'm wondering, why does the new Human theme with ClearLooks 2 not have colored scrollbars?
[02:23] <[olli] > Aragorn_Guardian, going back to win32 for now. i have problems with my external usb 2.0 harddisc and my laserprinter
[02:23] <marcin`> navarone: but for mysql-server I need to use 'localhost.localdomain' to connect
[02:23] <IdleOne> Rent-2-Pwn:  in terminal type sudo apt-get wine
[02:23] <Aragorn_Guardian> :(
[02:23] <soundray> Arafangi1n, or that :)
[02:23] <Viper550> I know how to add them, but why didn't they take advantage?
[02:23] <IdleOne> Rent-2-Pwn:  in terminal type sudo apt-get install wine
[02:23] <tatters> anyone used to punch 8 bit wide paper tape?
[02:23] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about mounting windows shares?
[02:23] <marcin`> navarone: I want to investigate why, and what is default content of /etc/hosts
[02:24] <marcin`> navarone: (I don't want to install fresh ubuntu to test it
[02:24] <cavediver> hi there. When I had breezy I had an encryption-center to handle my gpg certificates. But now in Dapper I can't find it. Anyone know the name of the applikcation +
[02:24] <sethk> tatters, sure
[02:25] <benplaut> !samba
[02:25] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:25] <cavediver> I also had encrypt as an option when right-clicking files. Maybe that was the same application.
[02:25] <benplaut> !botsnack
[02:25] <ubotu> :)
[02:25] <_jason> marcin`: you can use a livecd
[02:25] <navarone> marcin mine has 127.0.0.1	localhost.localdomain	localhost	ubuntu <-- and beneath are lines that I assume are for ipv6
[02:25] <bimberi> marcin`: by default the first line is "127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       <yourhostname>" and after that there is a whole lot of IPV6 stuff
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> idleone: rent-2-pwn@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> Reading package lists... Done
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> is only available from another source
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[02:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about pastebin
[02:25] <Arafangi1n> soundray: btw, At one point I ran debian sid for 6 months without a single upgrade, then upgraded right in the middle of the entire gcc-4 transition.
[02:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> usb-storage is not in lsmod....could this be wrong???
[02:25] <Rent-2-Pwn> sorry...
[02:26] <_jason> Rent-2-Pwn: you need to enable universe
[02:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about universe
[02:26] <navarone> ^5 bimberi
[02:26] <Macbeth> Any one know how i could change the colour of the text in the panles in gnome?
[02:26] <Viper550> Who enjoys ClearLooks 2.0?
[02:26] <marcin`> bimberi: thanks mine is the same
[02:26] <sethk> Macbeth, edit the current profile from the menu
[02:26] <sethk> Macbeth, or create a new profile with different color choices, either way works
[02:26] <Arafangi1n> soundray: Everything that used qt, (and most C++ programs) broke.
[02:27] <bimberi> navarone: ??  (i might have missed something)
[02:27] <IdleOne> Rent-2-Pwn:  I dont use wine. but I think if you follow the instructions in the wiki carefully it should go fine
[02:27] <soundray> Arafangi1n, sounds like great fun.
[02:27] <Macbeth> sethk, sorry, im a noob, where abouts would i got to edit?
[02:27] <sethk> Aragorn_Guardian, might just not be loaded
[02:27] <Rent-2-Pwn> _jason: ive read that already, it tells me to tick "Showdisabledsoftwaresources" and then tick the box next to the repository, the repository doesnt have universe under it
[02:27] <Arafangi1n> soundray: I switched to ubuntu ;)
[02:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell Rent-2-Pwn about easysource
[02:27] <sethk> Macbeth, the edit menu
[02:27] <Arafangi1n> soundray: But I still prefer debian on servers.
[02:28] <soundray> Arafangi1n, you must have felt like I did when I had taken my tractor apart and couldn't put it together again.
[02:28] <_jason> Rent-2-Pwn: then make yourself a new /etc/apt/sources.list and replace your current one
[02:28] <navarone> bimberi ^5 mean highfive for telling marcin info like me
[02:28] <relak> Arafangi1n, does centrino include wifi?
[02:28] <Rent-2-Pwn> _jason: i have already made a new sources.list
[02:28] <shikamaru85> sethk: i installed that package but still no symlink in / usr/ src
[02:28] <Viper550> Anyone want to talk art on # ubuntu-art?
[02:29] <_jason> Rent-2-Pwn: so you are saying you have universe?
[02:29] <sethk> shikamaru85, I don't recall having to make a link, but I more frequently install the kernel source tarball.
[02:29] <Arafangi1n> soundray: I felt more like refilling my car up with petrol and discovering it was diesel, to be honest ;)
[02:29] <IdleOne> _jason:  I dont think he enabled universe / multiverse properly
[02:29] <sethk> shikamaru85, did you get a tarball named linux-source-2.whatever?
[02:29] <Arafangi1n> relak: Wifi is generally advertised on laptops that have it.
[02:29] <Macbeth> sethk, that in themes? or should i have a certain package to edit themes and panels?
[02:29] <navarone> soundray you have a tractor?
[02:29] <Arafangi1n> relak: I _think_ centrino does, but I would check on the specific laptops to be sure.
[02:30] <soundray> relak, centrino is wifi plus other things, Intel brand.
[02:30] <_jason> Rent-2-Pwn: can you paste the current contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[02:30] <shikamaru85> sethk: yup
[02:30] <Rent-2-Pwn> _jason: sure oen sec
[02:30] <shinydan> evening all
[02:30] <punkrockguy318> How can I enable metacity's new composite features?
[02:30] <soundray> navarone, sold it. Was very nice, though, 800cc single cylinder, 16 hp... #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:30] <Arafangi1n> Hmm, how do I setup a vpn at uni? I was under the impression that I would use pptp, but it doesn't appear to allow authentication.
[02:30] <Arafangi1n> I need authentication.
[02:31] <navarone> macbeth I can't see anything in config editor for panel text
[02:31] <Arafangi1n> (It's a windows shop, so I can't ask for specific versions, etc - they expect it to just work)
[02:31] <relak> Hmm ok!
[02:31] <sethk> shikamaru85, yup on the tarball?  You have to extract the source from it.  Sorry, that slipped my mind.
[02:31] <navarone> soundray...no was just curious if you really had a tractor...lol
[02:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> sethk:  it is needed for usb work ?
[02:31] <Viper550> So, think good ol Ubuntu needs a new Metacity theme?
[02:31] <shinydan> just tried to install the Aegis virus scanner. The Add Applications window told me it was in Applications: Accessories.
[02:31] <Arafangi1n> soundray: At work our car got bogged, so we hired a tractor to get it out :)
[02:31] <soundray> navarone, I bought it because of the label... Porsche.
[02:31] <shinydan> it's not there. Huh?
[02:31] <Arafangi1n> soundray: Unfortunately it also got bogged...
[02:31] <navarone> soundray was it a Deerie?
[02:32] <Rent-2-Pwn> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9020
[02:32] <navarone> lol
[02:32] <Macbeth> navarone, thats what i thought, cant see any simple way of doing it.
[02:32] <winXperts> Arafangi1n, ussually they use Cisco VPN they should have a linux client
[02:32] <soundray> navarone, Porsche!
[02:32] <nitinshantharam> any dev's here know when 2.6.16~ will be merged into dapper? (it fixes the smart-battery bugs on my ferrari 4005)
[02:32] <Arafangi1n> winXperts: Do you happen to know of the client?
[02:32] <_jason> Rent-2-Pwn: what version of ubuntu and what architecture are you using?
[02:32] <navarone> soundray yeah they started making farm equipment
[02:32] <bur[n] er> relak: centrino is just a marketing term to say pentium m and an ipw2100/2200 wireless card
[02:32] <Rent-2-Pwn> _jason: im using breezy badger/ amd64
[02:33] <_jason> Rent-2-Pwn: wine is only in the repos for 386
[02:33] <soundray> navarone, they had a factory by Lake Constance where they built these smart little machines.
[02:33] <shikamaru85> sethk: sorry to bother more but what are te comand line options for untaring bz2
[02:33] <Rent-2-Pwn> omg.........
[02:33] <bur[n] er> shikamaru85: tar xvfj
[02:33] <Rent-2-Pwn> ok thanks anyway
[02:33] <navarone> soundray was it fullgrown or one of those lawntractor wannabes?
[02:33] <Arafangi1n> shikamaru85: bz2 files are decompressed using bunzip2
[02:33] <djmaster13> miaou les chats :p
[02:34] <shinydan> um, could someone help me with Aegis?
[02:34] <Arafangi1n> shikamaru85: If you're talking about .tar.bz2, that's tar -xvjf file.tar.bz2
[02:34] <_jason> Rent-2-Pwn: I don't think there is a 64bit wine, but I don't know too much about wine.  There are probably some how-to's on the forums if you search
[02:34] <Arafangi1n> shikamaru85: The very latest version of tar (WHich might not be in ubuntu yet) does not need the -j option.
[02:34] <navarone> shinydan lemme guess...you are scanning windows partition and getting tonnes of hits?
[02:34] <Arafangi1n> shikamaru85: But I like to add it anyway.
[02:34] <soundray> navarone, it weighed 800kg, so I guess that's the first category up from a lawn tractor :)
[02:34] <shinydan> nope. just trying to install the damn thing
[02:34] <Arafangi1n> _jason: There is a 64-bit version of wine, but not in ubuntu, have to compile from source.
[02:34] <navarone> shinydan, okay...lol
[02:34] <shinydan> ran Add Applications
[02:35] <shinydan> waited for the thing to finish
[02:35] <_jason> Arafangi1n: seems rent left, but thanks for letting me know
[02:35] <shinydan> got "it's in Applications: Accessories". Except it isn't.
[02:35] <bur[n] er> anyone know the trick to get the flight 4 dapper livecd to work with qemu?
[02:35] <navarone> shinydan try system tools
[02:36] <nitinshantharam> any dev's here know when 2.6.16~ will be merged into dapper? (it fixes the smart-battery bugs on my ferrari 4005)
[02:36] <soundray> Arafangi1n, do you need a 64bit Windows to go with 64bit wine?
[02:36] <Arafangi1n> soundray: I don't think so.
[02:36] <winXperts> Arafangi1n, they create one specific for the univ latest ver is 4.6
[02:36] <Arafangi1n> soundray: Wine these days are trying to setup their own environment, and not to require windows.
[02:37] <mjr> afaik wine is not attempting to run 32-bit windows binaries on 64-bit wine, at least last I checked
[02:37] <cavediver> Is there an app for handling gpg for gnome ?
[02:37] <fangorious> anyone find a workaround for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/31712?
[02:37] <mjr> (so you'd need a 32-bit wine to run win32 software)
[02:37] <_jason> cavediver: seahorse
[02:37] <Arafangi1n> mjr: Quite probable.
[02:37] <shinydan> interesting
[02:37] <navarone> congrats moonunit
[02:37] <soundray> Arafangi1n, mjr, that's useful, tx
[02:37] <navarone> shinydan, didja find it
[02:37] <fangorious> cavediver: gnome-gpg
[02:37] <moonunit> navarone, my hoary install blew up
[02:37] <shinydan> I called up the Applications Menu editor
[02:38] <cavediver> thankes
[02:38] <shinydan> _that_ thinks that Aegis is installed and visible
[02:38] <shinydan> but it still isnt
[02:38] <navarone> moonunit, umm..."hoars" have a way of doing that at inopportune moments...Ahem
[02:38] <bimberi> cavediver: seahorse
[02:38] <cavediver> thanks
[02:38] <cavediver> that was the name
[02:39] <moonunit> navarone, thats what you get for not upgrading
[02:39] <moonunit> :P
[02:39] <bimberi> cavediver: yw :)
[02:39] <soundray> nitinshantharam, I'm not a dev, but I reckon since 2.6.16 isn't even out yet, it'll be a while yet.
[02:39] <shinydan> navarone: I called up the Applications Menu editor, which thinks Aegis is sat in the correct Menu. But it isn't.
[02:39] <navarone> moonunit, I never used hoary...always had breezy...it's where I came in so to speak
[02:40] <navarone> shinydan check Application/Sytem Tools
[02:40] <moonunit> navarone, i learned that breezy was out, about a week after i started running hoary, so when my hoary install broke, i just upgraded
[02:40] <nitinshantharam> soundray: ugh, its the only kernel that lets me get battery status off my ferrari 4005 :( i think r4 of the kernel is out though
[02:40] <shinydan> navarone: no, not there. Installed Firestarter at the same time, and _that's_ there alright
[02:40] <Razor-X> Anyone here use rt2570 drivers for wireless access?
[02:41] <Razor-X> Or play PrBoom?
[02:41] <navarone> shinydan, press alt-f2 and type aegis-scanner and see if it works
[02:41] <_lemsx1_> !bmpx
[02:41] <ubotu> _lemsx1_: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:42] <lnx_> soundray: so i got anxious and did the apt-get dist-upgrade, do i need to restart for it to take effect?
[02:42] <shinydan> um, yes
[02:42] <bimberi> bur[n] er: 'cockfosters' was considered :P - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero/UbuntuCommunityTalk
[02:42] <bur[n] er> lol
[02:42] <catchphrase> lol
[02:43] <shinydan> yes, except that there's a "new version of File::scan available" and I don't know the p/w to get it
[02:43] <soundray> lnx_, to get the benefit of the updated kernel, yes.
[02:43] <shinydan> navarone: yes, except that there's a "new version of File::scan available" and I don't know the p/w to get it
[02:43] <lnx_> soundray: i'll give it a go...
[02:43] <_lemsx1_> !learn add bmpx BMPx sources for Debian packages (currently Ubuntu Dapper and Debian experimental since libneon25-dev is needed) http://people.debian.org/~ari/experimental/bmpx/
[02:43] <navarone> shinydan I always get that and it says it updates but never seems to take
[02:43] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, _lemsx1_
[02:43] <shinydan> right
[02:43] <shinydan> so it doesn't actually update
[02:44] <CaNsA> word
[02:44] <CaNsA> full install
[02:44] <shinydan> navarone: so is there a virus scanner that actually works?
[02:44] <CaNsA> thhe debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)
[02:44] <navarone> shinydan, to tell the truth I rarely use aegis at all...i have Clamav as well...but frankly I don't worry too much about viruses and such in linux. I use ubuntu for most of my online stuff now
[02:44] <Arafangi1n> shinydan: You don't actually need a virus scanner.
[02:44] <shinydan> ok
[02:44] <shinydan> hm.
[02:45] <CaNsA> what does that mean?
[02:45] <catchphrase> ooh. the boot menu in dapper drake is pretty. :D
[02:45] <Arafangi1n> catchphrase: "Full Install" generally means "Install Everything".
[02:45] <navarone> catchphrase, you've convinced me to upgrade...;)
[02:46] <CaNsA> what does this mean though? >>> debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)
[02:47] <shinydan> thanks guys/gals
[02:47] <Arafangi1n> CaNsA: Just that.
[02:47] <Nunquam_Fidelis> How does one create a password for Samba using the terminal?
[02:47] <Arafangi1n> CaNsA: Exited with error (Error code 1)
[02:47] <spyder89> hello need some help i am a noob
[02:47] <Arafangi1n> CaNsA: More context provides far more meaningful errors.
[02:47] <CaNsA> does that mean i have a bad copy?
[02:47] <Nunquam_Fidelis> spyder89: No helping the fact you're a noob, what do you need help with?
[02:47] <navarone> shinydan I used aegis on my windows partition and it gave me loads of false detections. I use about 4 progs for virus detection etc in windows and I'm am pretty careful about things like that so I know the hits are wrong. Nothing shows up when I scan in windows on any program
[02:47] <Kr4t05> !apache
[02:47] <ubotu> methinks apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:47] <CaNsA> Arafangi1n, i am doing a full install on fresh hdd
[02:48] <navarone> bugger he left :/
[02:48] <fangorious> Nunquam_Fidelis: sudo smbpasswd -a username
[02:48] <fangorious> Nunquam_Fidelis: I think
[02:48] <spyder89> well i am downloading the iso for my machine and can't figure out how to install this system
[02:48] <Arafangi1n> CaNsA: I'll bet dollars to peanuts that's not the only output you have.
[02:48] <Nunquam_Fidelis> fangorious: You = genious, thanks.
[02:48] <soundray> navarone, I enjoyed the read anyway ;)
[02:48] <_lemsx1_> how do i add something to ubotu?
[02:48] <navarone> soundray don't applaud...throw money...<s>
[02:49] <Nunquam_Fidelis> spyder89: Have you burned the ISO to disc yet?
[02:49] <fangorious> Nunquam_Fidelis: don't thank me until the you've confirmed being able to log in with that user from a client machine
[02:49] <fangorious> ;)
[02:49] <IdleOne> can anybody help me install eggdrop? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9022
[02:49] <Nunquam_Fidelis> fangorious: I've done it before and it worked, I just forgot the process. I am confident it will.
[02:49] <navarone> thank ye kindly guvner
[02:49] <spyder89> once when i turn on the computer what do i type in at the c prompt
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need help with usb.. :(
[02:50] <shikamaru85> seth: still having the same orignal prob...get this error make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:50] <shikamaru85> rt2570.ko failed to build!
[02:50] <Razor-X> shikamaru85: Ah, you're using rt2570!
[02:50] <soundray> c prompt!? Switch it off again and install Ubuntu, spyder89
[02:50] <bimberi> IdleOne: install build-essential and retry
[02:50] <Razor-X> shikamaru85: It builds fine for me with 2.6.12-10-686, but it doesen't work all that well.
[02:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> "lspci -v|grep HCI"  shows info, but how can i mount devices...
[02:50] <lnx_> soundray: well i restarted, and everything seems to be exactly the same (fan included) is there any way to check to make sure it worked?
[02:50] <shikamaru85> Razor-X: desperatly trying to
[02:51] <navarone> spyder89, you need bios set to boot from  cd as well
[02:51] <IdleOne> bimberi:  ok
[02:51] <spyder89> soundray what do u mean
[02:51] <soundray> lnx_, uname -a
[02:51] <spyder89> should i not have a c prompt
[02:51] <shikamaru85> Razor-X: what do u recomend?
[02:51] <Razor-X> shikamaru85: Does a ``make'' work fine?
[02:51] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: did you install the linux-sources package?
[02:51] <Razor-X> shikamaru85: I'm using ndiswrapper at the moment, it isn't something I like, but it's better than nothing.
[02:51] <navarone> spyder did you boot up with install cd in drive?
[02:51] <lnx_> soundray: Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Mon Feb 13 12:13:15 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:51] <soundray> spyder89, if you got a C: prompt, you are running DOS.
[02:51] <lnx_> soundray: that's the same isn't it?
[02:51] <spyder89> i did have the bios set to cdrom first but it just looks at it then moves on
[02:51] <soundray> lnx_, yes.
[02:52] <CaNsA> and again, installing the base system i get the error again
[02:52] <CaNsA> debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)
[02:52] <navarone> spyder did you burn the iso onto cd as data or as an image?
[02:52] <lnx_> soundray: try it again?
[02:52] <erik> The CD COULD be bad-
[02:52] <soundray> lnx_, it's probably a good idea to apt-get install linux-386
[02:52] <name> why can't i open other partitions?
[02:52] <spyder89> i burned it as iso
[02:53] <lnx_> soundray: what does that do?
[02:53] <name> it says i don't have the permisssion
[02:53] <_lemsx1_> how do i teach something to ubotu?
[02:53] <erik> I always burn my install cd's at as slow as they can go to prevent errors....
[02:53] <_lemsx1_> ubotu: ?
[02:53] <ubotu> _lemsx1_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:53] <_jason> name: what do you want to teach him?
[02:53] <navarone> _lemsx1_, you can't
[02:53] <erik> but I doubt that is your problem
[02:53] <_lemsx1_> navarone: oh, nice. can somebody do it? i want to store info about bmpx
[02:53] <soundray> lnx_, linux-386 depends on the most current kernel for your Ubuntu version (i.e. Dapper, if the upgrade ran through).
[02:54] <IdleOne> bimberi:  thats was it thanks ()
[02:54] <navarone> _lemsx1_, I am not sure who is responsible for that task
[02:54] <Razor-X> IdleOne: Haha, still using that, tsu?
[02:54] <IdleOne> Razor-X:  yeah
[02:54] <Razor-X> IdleOne: Tsu.
[02:54] <soundray> lnx_, just run 'sudo dpkg --pending --configure' to make sure the upgrade is complete.
[02:54] <spyder89> soundray should i not be running dos
[02:54] <name> I can't open partitions
[02:55] <Razor-X> spyder89: DOS in Linux, wha?
[02:55] <navarone> spyder89, no
[02:55] <IdleOne> is tcl pre installed or do I need to install it ?
[02:55] <_jason> name: can you mount them? what filesystem?
[02:55] <soundray> spyder89, not if you're looking for support here.
[02:55] <bimberi> IdleOne: np 
[02:55] <spyder89> sorry
[02:55] <name> ntfs
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> _lemsx1_, navarone: Actually, anybody can add things to ubotu's knowledge, provided it's legitimate.  cafuego monitors those and manages the bot, and will occasionally go through and purge factoids that are not necessary.
[02:55] <_jason> name: have you been give a link to the wiki page?
[02:55] <Razor-X> bimberi: Tsu, you too?
[02:55] <spyder89> so, how do i format my harddrive an get rid of dos
[02:56] <name> no i don't have a link
[02:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell name about ntfs
[02:56] <navarone> spyder89, either cd is bad or you have boot sequence wrong...
[02:56] <IdleOne> !tcl
[02:56] <ubotu> IdleOne: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:56] <bimberi> Razor-X: no, just a copycat :)
[02:56] <punkrockguy318> is there any program that will lock my vt once it's been inactive for a certain amount of time?
[02:56] <Razor-X> bimberi: Meh, tsu.
[02:57] <IdleOne> bimberi:  you happen to know the path to libtcl.so?
[02:57] <spyder89> navarone when i put the image onto the toast it sees everything and is too large for one disk
[02:57] <soundray> punkrockguy318, xscreensaver. (System-Preferences-Screensaver)
[02:57] <biovore> IdleOne: ldconfig -v | gerp libtcl
[02:57] <biovore> (grep)
[02:58] <navarone> spyder you've lost me
[02:58] <soundray> punkrockguy318, erm, by vt, did you mean text terminal?
[02:58] <punkrockguy318> soundray: yeah that works fine, but what about for vts?
[02:58] <punkrockguy318> soundray: yeah
[02:58] <lnx__> soundray: it says it's already the newest
[02:58] <punkrockguy318> soundray: i know vlock exists but i don't think that will lock when idle
[02:58] <Aragorn_Guardian> i can mount my usb cd in /dev/sda...is this???
[02:58] <bimberi> IdleOne: sorry no - i do have a /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0
[02:58] <bur[n] er> anyone have an azureus 2.4.0 deb by chance?
[02:59] <spyder89> navarone, i have 2 computers this one which is a mac g5 and an old one which is a pc with a cyrix media gx chip
[02:59] <biovore> bur[n] er: its java.. install jre and install azuereus from there site
[02:59] <spyder89> iwant to turn it into a server
[02:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bur[n] er about azureus
[02:59] <biovore> spyder89: use debian
[02:59] <navarone> okay...nine o'clock...time for a smoke and chill time...cya all alter
[02:59] <spyder89> isn't debian huge
[02:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> IdleOne:  path of libs are in /etc/ld.so.conf....after alter it, you must run ldconfig...
[02:59] <bur[n] er> biovore: i can run it just fine... i was just hoping for a .deb so it integrates into apt
[03:00] <biovore> bur[n] er: no luck there
[03:00] <amphi> spyder89: enormous ;)
[03:00] <bur[n] er> nalioth: that points to a dead link which is an old version anyway :\
[03:00] <soundray> lnx_, is that linux-386?
[03:00] <bur[n] er> packages.debian.org is down
[03:01] <bur[n] er> thanks anyway biovore
[03:01] <shikamaru85> someone had asked me if i installed linux-sources..but i don't have that in the repositories
[03:01] <nalioth> bur[n] er: check seveas repos
[03:01] <spyder89> amphi: i only have like 13 gigs to work with
[03:01] <amphi> bur[n] er: try pdo.debian.net
[03:01] <Arafangi1n> bur[n] er: It's always down.
[03:01] <bur[n] er> !seveas
[03:01] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:01] <amphi> spyder89: you don't have to install all of it ;)
[03:01] <amphi> spyder89: or even any of it, beyond the base-system
[03:02] <_lemsx1_> tonyyarusso: thanks for the information. i just wanted to add info about bmpx which is a legit thing to have there since there is no ubuntu package for it but it can be easily compiled under Dapper
[03:02] <spyder89> is it possible to run ubuntu instead
[03:02] <Arafangi1n> spyder89: Debian is one of the oldest distros of them all, and has aquired a large number of packages.
[03:02] <amphi> spyder89: you can get the ~100MB netinstall iso
[03:02] <spyder89> really:
[03:02] <spyder89> where from
[03:02] <Arafangi1n> spyder89: The culture behind ubuntu lends it easily to desktop use, but debian is really more ideal for *servers*.
[03:02] <shikamaru85> i guess my question is..what do i have to do to get my kernel inside /usrc/src
[03:02] <amphi> spyder89: you can run any distro you like
[03:03] <steven_> hello
[03:03] <amphi> debian makes a fine desktop IMHO
[03:03] <steven_> first time on here
[03:03] <Arafangi1n> amphi: Just not as nice as ubuntu ;)
[03:03] <Arafangi1n> amphi: Nor as convenient.
[03:03] <lnx__> soundray: apt-get linux-386 said it was already the newest
[03:03] <amphi> Arafangi1n: dunno, I'm not a DE kind of guy
[03:03] <IdleOne> bimberi:  may I msg you?
[03:04] <Arafangi1n> amphi: In that case, debian would be nicer.
[03:04] <steven_> and I love ubuntu
[03:04] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: i asked you about linux-sources-`uname -r` for your kernel. once you have that installed it would be easier to compile modules. the linux-headers-`uname -r` package should also help but the build directory is linked to the sources one
[03:04] <Arafangi1n> Damn, "file size limit exceeded" - damn fat32 partitions!
[03:04] <soundray> lnx_, you still seem to be on breezy. Replace all "breezy" with "dapper" in sources.list, run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:04] <amphi> Arafangi1n: heh - 2GB?
[03:04] <Arafangi1n> amphi: 4GB
[03:05] <biovore> Arafangi1n: what are you doing that needs more then 4GB.. video?
[03:05] <Arafangi1n> biovore: Disc images for qemu
[03:05] <biovore> ah
[03:05] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: really sorry, noob at this...can u plz explain again what u said i should do
[03:05] <amphi> Arafangi1n: unsigned int I presume, unlike wget
[03:05] <LiteHedded> easy sources please?
[03:05] <maxwell> Yo
[03:05] <_jason> LiteHedded: /msg ubotu easysource
[03:06] <Arafangi1n> amphi: In the case of wget, you need both a distro with large file support (I'm 99.99% certain that ubuntu does), AND a webserver with large file support.
[03:06] <Arafangi1n> amphi: And apache has only very recently been able to serve files larger than 2GB
[03:06] <spyder89> amphi, i am looking at downloads for debian, what do you recommend debian-30r1-i386-binary-1-7
[03:06] <amphi> Arafangi1n: I know the webserver does, because curl had no probs
[03:06] <Arafangi1n> amphi: File a bug
[03:06] <IdleOne> is tcl8.4.6 in the repos?
[03:07] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: sudo apt-get install linux-sources-`uname -r`
[03:07] <amphi> Arafangi1n: I was downloading a movie from archive.org
[03:07] <biovore> apt-cache search tcl
[03:07] <IdleOne> thank you
[03:07] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: when that's done let me know
[03:07] <[olli] > hmm, are the usb 2.0 problems fixed in dapper?
[03:07] <lnx__> soundray: sorry i was missing those, i got a new nick when i came back 'lnx__'
[03:07] <fangorious> [olli] : which?
[03:07] <amphi> Arafangi1n: yeah, perhaps I should
[03:07] <zebraFusion> _lemsx1_, what are linux-sources?
[03:07] <biovore> [olli] : USB2.0 works here on brezzy
[03:08] <_lemsx1_> zebraFusion: kernel sources for the current kernel in ubuntu
[03:08] <[olli] > fangorious, write lock and not full speed. works fine under windows
[03:08] <soundray> Got this one? lnx__, you still seem to be on breezy. Replace all "breezy" with "dapper" in sources.list, run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:08] <zebraFusion> _lemsx1_, what sources?
[03:08] <maxwell> Hey, I don't suppose anybody knows how to get a HP5610xi to effing work on Ubuntu?
[03:08] <amphi> spyder89: I'd use the netinstall, if that's practical for you - but ubuntu might be better for you
[03:08] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_, E: Couldn't find package linux-sources-2.6.12-10-386
[03:08] <shikamaru85>  :S
[03:08] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: ah, linux-source-`uname -r` sorry. not sources
[03:09] <riddlebox> soundray, dapper is still unstable correct?
[03:09] <soundray> punkrockguy318, I suggest you run your session in GNU screen, and use autolog to control your terminal.
[03:09] <soundray> riddlebox, correct.
[03:09] <_lemsx1_> zebraFusion: sources for the Linux kernel. /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build is a symlink to that /usr/src/linux-source-`uname -r`
[03:09] <shikamaru85> E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-10-386
[03:09] <shikamaru85>  :S
[03:10] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[03:10] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: :-) the 3rd is the charm ;-)
[03:10] <bimberi> IdleOne: sorry, was away, /msg is OK - looks like you have an answer though :)
[03:10] <riddlebox> soundray, is the release date still in march?
[03:10] <soundray> punkrockguy318, that way, when autolog times you out, you can log back in and reattach the screen session
[03:10] <soundray> !dapper
[03:10] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[03:10] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: yup ;)
[03:10] <[olli] > too bad. must go back to windows. see you later in about 1-2 years if linux is working better than
[03:10] <Eleaf> lol
[03:10] <allan> Does anyone know how to get the ATI drivers working correctly?
[03:11] <spyder89> netinstall won't work yet
[03:11] <spyder89> question how do i prep my comp
[03:11] <RollerC> I need some help installing a linksys wireless usb G router (V4), I was told to install ndiswrapper, I then did ndiswrapper -i [the inf file for the driver] , I then do ndiswrapper -l and it shows the driver, says driver present, hardware present, I then go to networking and for some reason I only have ethernet and modem still... can anyone help me with this?
[03:11] <spyder89> formatting harddrive and so on
[03:11] <allan> i have the 2.6.15 kernel... and the latest drivers... but OpenGL STILL won't work right
[03:11] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: when that's done go into /usr/src and untar the sources (if  not already done for you): tar xjf linux-source...tar.bz2
[03:11] <JRlinux> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410460  says that the new Dapper Drake will drive the wireless Broadcom 4318.  Would that include dapper-install-amd64.iso and dapper-live-i386.iso (615MB)
[03:11] <punkrockguy318> soundray: thanks.. is there any other way besides screen that you know of?
[03:11] <soundray> spyder89, the ubuntu installer does it for you.
[03:11] <amphi> spyder89: the installer will do that for you, assuming you have empty space on the drive
[03:11] <_lemsx1_> allan: i do. what do you need to know?
[03:12] <amphi> spyder89: but this is not really the channel to be asking about installing debian
[03:12] <lnx__> soundray: it syas it will take 2hours is that accurate?
[03:12] <soundray> punkrockguy318, hey, it took me long enough to come up with that one :)
[03:12] <allan> well, i installed the drivers... and it still gives me the Mesa project crap when I put in fglrxinfo
[03:12] <allan> openGL doesn't work right
[03:12] <soundray> lnx__, no idea. The determining factor is your net connection.
[03:12] <punkrockguy318> soundray: alright, thank you :)
[03:12] <whatwhat> hello
[03:12] <spyder89> ok i would like to put ubuntu on the comp, where can i find info on how to do that step by step
[03:12] <_lemsx1_> allan: i wrote a little something about that: http://lems.kiskeyix.org/puntoyaparte/article.php?story_id=57
[03:13] <lnx__> soundray: yeah dumb question.  i'm on a "t1"
[03:13] <_lemsx1_> allan: i'm using Xgl now ;-)
[03:13] <RollerC> I need some help installing a linksys wireless usb G router (V4), I was told to install ndiswrapper, I then did ndiswrapper -i [the inf file for the driver] , I then do ndiswrapper -l and it shows the driver, says driver present, hardware present, I then go to networking and for some reason I only have ethernet and modem still... can anyone help me with this?
[03:13] <maxwell> Crap....anybody?  Can't get the stupid scanner to work.
[03:13] <soundray> lnx__, then it depends on the number and size of the packages you have installed.
[03:13] <allan> im using breezy, not dapper
[03:13] <relak> can i tell XChat that it saves the channels im in on IRC so it automaticly connects when i start Xchat next time??
[03:13] <lnx__> soundray: 1176 upgraded, 169 newly installed, 43 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[03:13] <CaNsA> why cant i install the base system?
[03:13] <_lemsx1_> allan: same thing... just put "breezy" where it says "dapper"
[03:14] <allan> ok, sweet
[03:14] <allan> should i uninstall the 8.22.5 drivers completely before i do this?
[03:14] <RollerC> can anyone help me with my networking problem?
[03:14] <JRlinux> relak go to the X-Chat menu upper left.  You can enter the channels you want to boot into there
[03:14] <_lemsx1_> spyder89: go to wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:14] <soundray> lnx__, if you start it now, the progress indicator will be fairly accurate within a few minutes. You can always Ctrl-C and continue later if it's taking too long.
[03:15] <_lemsx1_> allan: i'd say so... did you have to dpkg-divert something?
[03:15] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: all done
[03:15] <spyder89> thank you
[03:15] <relak> JRlinux, XChat -> ? where
[03:15] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: untar as well?
[03:15] <lnx__> soundray: i think it'll be ok
[03:15] <instabin> how do i add space to my lvm
[03:15] <allan> i got the 8.22.5 drivers, got the installer to make the .deb files, and then intalled the fglrx-control and fglrx-driver
[03:15] <thomas_> How do i use hydra with ubuntu?
[03:16] <allan> how would i go about removing those two?
[03:16] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: make sure that /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build is a symlink to /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6....
[03:16] <thomas_> How do i use hydra-gtk with ubunutu?
[03:16] <JRlinux> relak... sorry... looking for that spot now.
[03:16] <_lemsx1_> allan: you used the installer to create the .deb's ? that's what i say in my little howto
[03:16] <tony_something> is it possible to connect with wifi on a mac
[03:16] <allan> i did, but i didnt install them all, just the driver and the control panel
[03:16] <tony_something> and if so how do I do it
[03:17] <thomas_> How do i use hydra with ubuntu?
[03:17] <allan> was i supposed to install the others?
[03:17] <soundray> lnx__, that's good, because I need a bit of sleep now.
[03:17] <_lemsx1_> allan: make sure that /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 is the right file -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 620K 2006-02-18 15:36 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2*
[03:17] <thomas_> How do i use hydra with ubuntu?
[03:17] <hanasaki> what software can be used, witha gui, and DVD+R DL
[03:17] <soundray> !tell thomas_ about repeat
[03:17] <_lemsx1_> allan: the other stuff doesn't matter... the only problem you might have is to get the module for your kernel to compile ;-)
[03:18] <hanasaki> does a dirve spec of DVD+R DL   mean it can only read the disk or can it write too?
[03:18] <soundray> lnx__, hope you get it working.
[03:18] <lnx__> soundray: thank you very much for all your help
[03:18] <allan> should i dpkg -i the others though?
[03:18] <spyder89> alright, anyone who wants to help heres what i am doing right now
[03:18] <filloy> hey there !!!
[03:19] <_lemsx1_> allan: cd /usr/src; tar xjf fglrx.tar.bz2; cd modules/fglrx; KSRC=/usr/src/linux KVERS=`uname -r` debian/rules build_modules
[03:19] <soundray> lnx__, pleasure. Bye...
[03:19] <spyder89> my comp is running windows 98, i am formatting it right now
[03:19] <filloy> well, i just have to tell ya all guys, that i tried Fedora Core 4 for 1 weak, and...if i loved Ubuntu before that, now i love it even more !!
[03:19] <_lemsx1_> allan: that's assuming that /usr/src/linux is a symlink to your kernel sources
[03:19] <lnx__> soundray: bye
[03:19] <lnx__> thx again
[03:19] <hanasaki> filloy  what did u find good/bad in fc4
[03:19] <_lemsx1_> allan: in my case i have 2.6.15.3 here
[03:20] <hanasaki> filloy  i started w/ debian cause everyone said it was hard to do and i wanted to learn.. now deb and ubuntu are my favs
[03:20] <JRlinux> relak  Darn, I set mine up for automatic, but now don't see it ... unless it is Server ->Join Channel
[03:20] <allan> nope. i think i changed the symlink when i was doing the HOWTO on compiling the kernel.
[03:20] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: the build dir doesn't even exist in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[03:21] <instabin> hello could some one help me extend my lvm
[03:21] <filloy> hanasaki: too bugy, not very efficient, hard to work, i mean, they have the RPM's, but o find them is a pain in the kernel......and their comunity isnt so kind as this one
[03:21] <hanasaki> filloy  hehe i hear apt-get was ported to rh to support rpm.. just rumor
[03:21] <spyder89> amphi you there
[03:21] <filloy> hanasaki: but i must say, the best linux comunity, no offence, i really like you guys, is the Gentoo one :)
[03:21] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: create one then: ln -s /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6... /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[03:22] <B_166-ER-X> could someone explain me what is my problem ? something like WTF is THAT ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9030
[03:22] <B_166-ER-X> k3b error
[03:22] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: make sure you unpack your sources already
[03:22] <instabin> i use ubuntu
[03:22] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: yup, already untared
[03:23] <hanasaki> hmmm filloy  i ahve gone in there for general linux questions... dont see much diff.. some are great and some need a personality adjustment , jus tlike in the real world lol
[03:23] <JRlinux> relak,  X-Chat->Server List->Edit->Channels to Join
[03:23] <_lemsx1_> allan: i have 2.6.15.3 kernel and fglrx drivers already in a .deb... if you want them, let me know. else, you can use my make-kpkg.sh script (interactive) to create .deb's packages for the latest kernel source
[03:23] <filloy> hanasaki: ha, well, maybe i was lucky :D
[03:24] <Travis> hi guys, where can I get a list of all the games avaliable for ubuntu on apt
[03:24] <B_166-ER-X> can someone help fora K3b error ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9030
[03:24] <hanasaki> hehe
[03:24] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: ok, you are almost there. just use ln -s to make a symlink to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[03:24] <C_J_Pro> Travis, there are more than what meets the eye when it comes to the number of games
[03:24] <filloy> hanasaki: well, the point is that im going back to ubuntu in the Desktop, i think i will trash the actual Fedora Core 4 CD's and go back again to a stable system
[03:24] <C_J_Pro> there is always the star wars game in OOo and the minesweeper game in aptitude
[03:25] <C_J_Pro> but then I think there is a category for games
[03:25] <C_J_Pro> infact
[03:25] <C_J_Pro> Travis, try checking out ubuntugaming.org
[03:25] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: ok
[03:25] <hanasaki> filloy  smarty man/woman hehe
[03:25] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: done
[03:25] <allan> excuse me for not completely understanding, im still trying to grasp all of this. right now i have the 2.6.15 kernel. i used the ati installer to create the Ubuntu 5.10 .deb files. i installed only two: flgrx-drivers and fglrx-control. i do, or dont need to install more? do i have enough to continue with your how to?
[03:25] <danl> how do you echo the results of a linux command to irssi ussing "/exec"
[03:25] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: i have to step out for a few hours.. bbl
[03:25] <_lemsx1_> allan: http://www.kiskeyix.org/downloads/debian <-- go to pool and look for the kernel and fglrx packages under "restricted"
[03:25] <SonicYooth> i just installed ubuntu for the first time - went very smoothly... :)
[03:25] <_lemsx1_> allan: the script i use to build debian kernels is: http://lems.kiskeyix.org/toolbox/?f=make-kpkg.sh
[03:25] <SonicYooth> though i'm starting to see that a lot of software im interested in is built for KDE.. so i guess i'm going to reformat and try kubuntu
[03:25] <_lemsx1_> allan: i'm leaving for a few hours... bbl
[03:26] <allan> ok, im out too
[03:26] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: cool
[03:26] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: i sec
[03:26] <spyder89> sonicyouth how did you install ubuntu
[03:26] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: it's 3 am here :P
[03:26] <filloy> hanasaki: man/woman :p hhahahha :p the problem of internet
[03:26] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: is there anything else to it?
[03:26] <hanasaki> filloy  true that
[03:26] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: copy /boot/config* (your older config file) to /usr/src/linux-source-2.... and go there to do a: make oldconfig; make prepare
[03:26] <hanasaki> brb
[03:27] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: just in case ;-)
[03:27] <SonicYooth> spyder: i downloaded the iso (not the live cd version) and reformatted my laptop with it
[03:27] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: and that's it?
[03:27] <filloy> hanasaki: the other day i realised i talk to everyone on the net as if they were man...and thats obviously not true :P
[03:27] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: tks!!
[03:27] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: that's it
[03:27] <shikamaru85> _lemsx1_: tks so much
[03:27] <spyder89> how do you reformat you laptop with it
[03:27] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: that leaves your kernel sources as if you compiled it by yourself ;-)
[03:27] <spyder89> does it just auto do it or what
[03:27] <filloy> hanaBRB: btw, im a man
[03:27] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: no problem. go to sleep now ;-)
[03:27] <_lemsx1_> shikamaru85: bbl
[03:28] <degage> I'm new to ubuntu and trying to boot up the live cd with no result.  Anyone have an idea why  i cannot boot up from a cd?
[03:28] <SonicYooth> spyder: well it let me reformat all my partitions into the proper sizes... it went very smoothly
[03:28] <spyder89> what os where you running before
[03:28] <SonicYooth> spyder: i decided to get rid of my XP partition as I wanna force myself to learn some linux
[03:28] <filloy> degage: please inform us more about that
[03:29] <filloy> SonicYooth: i wouldnt be so sure about that :S
[03:29] <SonicYooth> degage: a lot of pc manufacturers make you hit a certain key to boot from CD
[03:29] <SonicYooth> filloy: so sure about what?
[03:29] <spyder89> sonicyouth what is the best way to format
[03:29] <filloy> SonicYooth: the XP partition thing :S
[03:29] <degage> I just downloaded the live cd iso file.  I burned into a cd and try to reboot but I do not get the ubuntu desktop.
[03:30] <SonicYooth> filloy: oh its okay.. ive still got a whole other PC that runs XP.. so ive got backup
[03:30] <SonicYooth> spyder: not sure if I'm the best person to answer that question as I chose to get rid of my XP partition... depends on what you want to do
[03:30] <filloy> SonicYooth: fiuf !!...i dont know when that day will come to me
[03:30] <hanasaki> what software ahs a gui and can be used to write to DVD+R DL
[03:30] <sydhart> Hi. Has anyone suggested a nice GUI wrapper "install-latest <package-names>", which would do a 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install install $*' ?
[03:30] <BigDaddy> hey guys, I am finding out that even thought I have an AMD64 chip, I would probably enjoy it more if I could use more apps. So I am wanting to go to the 32bit version. Do I have to reinstall? Is there anyway to keep all the things I got working?
[03:30] <filloy> ok, general question.....anyone here have used the new Xgl thing ?
[03:31] <hanasaki> hmm BigDaddy what doesnt work w/ the amd64 i was thinking of getting one
[03:31] <BigDaddy> Wine for one
[03:31] <bur[n] er> degage: set you bios to boot from cd?
[03:31] <hanasaki> BigDaddy  wow.. crashes?
[03:31] <BigDaddy> also Automatix
[03:32] <BigDaddy> no, it just won't compile for me
[03:32] <hanasaki> BigDaddy i cant get the one porgram i want to work in wine.. so L:( on wine... works for everyone else thou lol
[03:32] <wastrel> hello - i rebooted recently & my cups is no longer working.  in /var/log/cups/error_log  it shows cups trying to connect to c0a8028b:631  which looks like an ipv6 address.... how do i turn this off & tell cups to use my ipv4 addresses?
[03:32] <hanasaki> BigDaddy umm can u just run the 32 .deb package? i am not sure
[03:32] <degage> ok guys i got some ideas. I'm ggoing back to try. thnaks!
[03:32] <Madpilot> greetings Ubuntubians
[03:32] <SonicYooth> hello madpilot
[03:32] <BigDaddy> I am just noticing that a lot of the cool things I want to try are problematic (or so I have read) with the AMD64
[03:33] <BigDaddy> hanasaki - you have to set up something called chroot for it and it does not perform as well
[03:33] <BigDaddy> so I have read
[03:33] <Madpilot> BigDaddy: you can run the 32bit version of Ubuntu on 64bit hardware
[03:33] <hanasaki> i heard of using chroot for security no for 32/64 bit
[03:34] <Brunellus> where does evolution keep its old messages, and how would I go about migrating the backed-up emails from one box to another?
[03:34] <BigDaddy> Madpilot, I know I can, what I was wondering is do I have to reinstall the 32bit Ubuntu, or is it just a kernel?
[03:34] <hanasaki> Madpilot  can u use 32 bit packages in a 64 bit install?
[03:34] <hanasaki> ubuntu has a complete 64 bit insgtall?
[03:34] <Madpilot> BigDaddy & hanasaki: I'm running purely 32bit here, so I've got no idea - just know it's possible
[03:35] <BigDaddy> hanasaki - yes they have a 64bit nstall disk
[03:35] <hanasaki> nice
[03:35] <hanasaki> if i get the x2 64 bit i guess its ubuntu not debian on that box
[03:35] <Travis> thanks
[03:35] <jbmagic> does ubuntu use debian?
[03:35] <BigDaddy> but as I said, I am running into problems with it
[03:35] <hanasaki> jbmagic  itis a fork
[03:35] <BigDaddy> I really need Wine if I am going to migrate away from WIndows
[03:35] <hanasaki> and contribs back to debian
[03:36] <jbmagic> oh i see
[03:36] <BigDaddy> Must have DVDShrink
[03:36] <hanasaki> BigDaddy  lol then u arent migrating away hehe
[03:36] <jbmagic> what easier guys to gentoo or Ubuntu?
[03:36] <BigDaddy> hanasaki - I have not found anything under linux that will allow me to back up my DVD's
[03:36] <hanasaki> jbmagic no clue. i never messed w/ gentoo..
[03:36] <biovore> jbmagic: gentoo is for l33t folks
[03:36] <Madpilot> jbmagic: Ubuntu can be installed and running in about 30min - how long would a compile/install of Gentoo take?
[03:36] <wastrel> how do i disable ipv6 in the kernel ?
[03:36] <irvin> jbmagic: that would be a relative question
[03:37] <hanasaki> BigDaddy umm rip a raw iso?
[03:37] <jbmagic> true i remember gentoo takign forever to install :)
[03:37] <wastrel> Madpilot:  there are binary installers for gentoo :] 
[03:37] <BigDaddy> I can tell you, Dora DVD's and Disney DVD's get beat up pretty bad
[03:37] <gasp> Madpilot:: about 3 days
[03:37] <jbmagic> is Ubuntu very clean once its install?
[03:37] <kookaburra> gentoo isn't that leet. it's just linux with a freebsd like package system
[03:37] <biovore> BigDaddy: is it encripted (like a video dvd)
[03:37] <BigDaddy> biovore - yeah. They are commercial DVD's
[03:37] <hanasaki> gasp  lol i hear that gentoo has a 386 full binary versin. no compiling
[03:37] <BigDaddy> but legally paid for and owned by me
[03:37] <ProfessorChaos> anyone in here have a Bluetooth Microsoft IntelliMouse 2.0 with the Scroll Wheel working?
[03:38] <gasp> hanasaki:: yeah, it does, but that pretty much defeats the purpose of gentoo
[03:38] <ProfessorChaos> working in X tha tis
[03:38] <biovore> BigDaddy: dvdrip is one.. you you can use mplayer's mencoder to do it
[03:38] <kookaburra> it does. you don't have to compile *everything* hanasaki
[03:38] <biovore> dvdrip needs transcode
[03:38] <hanasaki> gasp i have heard gentoo guys say there is little benifit from a full native compile
[03:38] <jbmagic> does ubuntu leave any dependencies behind when you unistall an application?
[03:38] <hanasaki> transcode?
[03:38] <hanasaki> jbmagic  run deborphan
[03:38] <biovore> google it
[03:38] <Toma-> hanasaki, correct
[03:38] <gasp> hanasaki:: some things will run a lot faster, but overall it's really not worth all the hassle from what i've experienced
[03:38] <hanasaki> what is transcode?
[03:39] <odla> what's the version of xfce in xubuntu?
[03:39] <biovore> video codec conversion tool
[03:39] <odla> in dapper?
[03:39] <biovore> mpeg to xivd
[03:39] <hanasaki> gasp  umm so why run 64bit?
[03:39] <jbmagic> thanks
[03:39] <gasp> hanasaki:: i give...........why?
[03:39] <wastrel> anyone know how to disable ipv6 in the kernel?
[03:39] <jbmagic> so ubuntu very easy to install, it will walk me thru when i install it?
[03:39] <hanasaki> biovore so when /why do u convert from/to what w/ transcodee
[03:39] <biovore> hanasaki: 64bit is only benifital for people who do long floats
[03:39] <biovore> hanasaki: DVD ripping
[03:39] <Toma-> wastrel, you can disable it thru modprobe
[03:40] <BigDaddy> oh, and back to 64 to 32 migration. Is it a complete reinstall?
[03:40] <hanasaki> biovore cant ya jsut rip the binary iso and burn it? i know little about this
[03:40] <Toma-> wastrel, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
[03:40] <kookaburra> jbmagic, it's a pretty straightforward install. so is debian sarge. just pick one and run with it.
[03:40] <bimberi> !info xfce4 dapper
[03:40] <ubotu> xfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.3 (dapper), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[03:40] <wastrel> Toma-:  thx
[03:40] <bimberi> odla: ^^^^
[03:40] <odla> bimberi: thanks
[03:40] <biovore> hanasaki: dvd copy is another issue
[03:40] <bimberi> odla: yw :)
[03:40] <hanasaki> biovore explian please
[03:40] <jbmagic> kookaburra thanks
[03:41] <biovore> hanasaki: you have to decript the dvd vobs then burn back to dvd
[03:41] <hsm> hi all
[03:41] <gasp> hi
[03:41] <odla> anyone tried the live cd installer on flight 4?
[03:41] <jbmagic> oncce i get the .iso for ubuntu and install it , i wont need to download another .iso again when a new version of ubuntu comes out?
[03:41] <hanasaki> biovore wow.. why is that? why cant u just copy the encrypted vob.. whatever a vob is.. byte per byte
[03:41] <kookaburra> if i remember correctly I think ubuntu has an easier x-server setup though, if you don't have specs for your monitor
[03:41] <Toma-> odla, i would suspect that would include the latest small releases, eg 4.2.3.2
[03:41] <biovore> hanasaki: because the DVD hardware won't let you
[03:41] <Madpilot> jbroome: no, you can dist-upgrade in place - basically download all the updated stuff & install it
[03:41] <kookaburra> jbmagic, that is correct.
[03:42] <hanasaki> jbmagic  search for "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:42] <jbmagic> kookaburra thanks
[03:42] <odla> !info dapper icewm
[03:42] <hanasaki> biovore  dam! evne from linux?
[03:42] <biovore> hanasaki: you can try it..  cat /dev/dvd > myiso.iso
[03:42] <odla> !info icewm dapper
[03:42] <ubotu> icewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.23-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 629 kB, Installed size: 1632 kB
[03:42] <biovore> hanasaki: you can if you hax your dvd rom
[03:42] <Toma-> !info fluxbox dapper
[03:42] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.14-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 801 kB, Installed size: 2828 kB
[03:42] <hanasaki> biovore  so in the end the video/audio is the same codec or new?  loose of quality?
[03:42] <kookaburra> it should be a relatively simple upgrade. "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:42] <Toma-> bout time it got 0.9.14!!!
[03:42] <gasp> !info openbox
[03:42] <hanasaki> ha.. hax the dvdrom? how ;)
[03:42] <ubotu> openbox: (standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.2-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 194 kB, Installed size: 920 kB
[03:42] <weareallone> have a dell, ubuntu not recognizing onboard soundcard i think
[03:43] <hanasaki> !info e17
[03:43] <biovore> hanasaki: most all video codecs are lossy.. meaning you compress.. and recompress and it gets worse
[03:43] <odla> sorry i didn't mean to start this non-sense and this bot abuse
[03:43] <Toma-> sif e17 is stable :(
[03:43] <jbmagic> once you install the full ubuntu, are you able to delete what apps you dont want or not going to use?
[03:43] <hanasaki> biovore  crap.. so no way to have a lossless copy?
[03:43] <crimsun> odla: because we're in UVF.
[03:43] <kookaburra> yes
[03:43] <biovore> crimsun: dvd's are lossy
[03:43] <biovore> mpeg2
[03:43] <odla> crimsun: uvf?
[03:43] <crimsun> biovore: -EMISADDRESS?
[03:44] <hanasaki> mpeg is lossy.. but how about a cpy that is no more lossy than the orig
[03:44] <biovore> (soory cimsun)
[03:44] <crimsun> odla: upstream version freeze
[03:44] <odla> crimsun: really?
[03:44] <odla> crimsun: so no xfce4.4 for dapper?
[03:44] <biovore> hanasaki: the origional is analog :-P
[03:44] <crimsun> odla: yes, we've been in UVF for nearly a month.
[03:44] <kookaburra> but be advised jbmagic that some apps depend on other ones etc.
[03:44] <odla> crimsun: i didn't know that
[03:44] <weareallone> is there a plugin or something that i can get that will run more soundcards?
[03:44] <crimsun> odla: possible.
[03:44] <biovore> hanasaki: well just don't recompress the file
[03:44] <crimsun> weareallone: clarify?
[03:44] <hanasaki> what can burn a DVD+R DL
[03:45] <kookaburra> jbmagic, what are you running now?
[03:45] <jbmagic> but i tought ubuntu does a good job with dependencies, so you know what you can unistall?
[03:45] <hanasaki> biovore  hmm if i dont recompress.. it wont fit?
[03:45] <Toma-> xfce 4.4 is released?
[03:45] <odla> Toma-: no
[03:45] <jbmagic> kookaburra newbie here. so i only have windows xp
[03:45] <hanasaki> jbmagic  it does
[03:45] <weareallone> no linux live or install has recognized my sound device
[03:45] <biovore> hanasaki: like dvd shrink on windows is lossy
[03:45] <odla> Toma-: but it should be released in by april
[03:45] <TiG4> Is there some sort of application that will take a screenshot of my desktop and upload it to an FTP://?
[03:45] <hanasaki> bummer
[03:45] <Toma-> i c
[03:45] <kookaburra> it does do a good job, but like in windows you can't strip it completely. it will need a few things.
[03:45] <biovore> hanasaki: its a fact of life in most video
[03:46] <Madpilot> TiG4: just press the Print Screen key - you'll have to handle the ftp part yourself
[03:46] <kookaburra> it can be quite light if you want it to be.
[03:46] <weareallone> have a dell with onboard soundcard...
[03:46] <kookaburra> ya know?
[03:46] <biovore> hanasaki: I don't copy dvds.. I just rip to a xvid/ogg mkv file..
[03:46] <hanasaki> hmm how?
[03:46] <crimsun> weareallone: how old is the Dell?
[03:46] <hanasaki> ;)
[03:46] <odla> crimsun: if xubuntu dapper is released with xfce-4.2 will there be 4.4 packages made for dapper when it's released?
[03:47] <biovore> mencoder
[03:47] <weareallone> pentium iii...
[03:47] <Delvien> hey guys did they fix wine with the new Dapper update?
[03:47] <crimsun> odla: no.
[03:47] <biovore> mkvtools
[03:47] <weareallone> 2000 probably
[03:47] <kookaburra> it will detail exactly what will be uninstalled so that you will know. and once it is uninstalled you can always put it back.
[03:47] <hanasaki> biovore  i just wanna use the DVD+R DL for data backup
[03:47] <biovore> hanasaki: look at k3b then
[03:48] <LiteHedded> ati please?
[03:48] <LiteHedded> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:48] <LiteHedded> ok cool
[03:48] <hanasaki> +R is only a dvd dl drive that reads? or i tcan write too?
[03:48] <whatwhat> TiG4 http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/page/4/
[03:48] <biovore> hanasaki: dl is still experimental at best
[03:48] <TiG4> whatwhat, I dont want to take a screenshot
[03:48] <hanasaki> hmmm
[03:48] <hanasaki> bummer again
[03:48] <TiG4> whatwhat, I want it to automatically take it and upload it
[03:48] <Madpilot> hanasaki: AFAIK anything with R in it (CD or DVD) is writable
[03:48] <whatwhat> TiG4 check the post Capture and Post Screenshots to a Website, Instantly  December 10, 2005
[03:48] <whatwhat>  they have a script to do this automatic
[03:48] <hanasaki> but does DVD+R DL  indidate the drive writes that or only reads?
[03:48] <whatwhat> dahhh
[03:49] <TiG4> ah ok
[03:49] <whatwhat> read it first
[03:49] <whatwhat> lol
[03:49] <Madpilot> hanasaki: writes + reads, I'm guessing...
[03:49] <kookaburra> jbmagic, if you have fairly common hardware I'd bet your install would be pretty straight forward. how commited are you to making a switch?
[03:49] <biovore> DL requires special media
[03:49] <biovore> for writing
[03:49] <hanasaki> k
[03:49] <hanasaki> thanks Madpilot
[03:49] <setuid> Can someone tell me how "ubuntu-server" differs from the other variants?
[03:49] <crimsun> weareallone: pastebin lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[03:49] <Madpilot> biovore: DL = Dual Layer, I guess?
[03:49] <hanasaki> so DL is experimental? :(
[03:49] <biovore> rgr madpilot
[03:50] <weareallone> i wish i undstood, is that an upgrade?
[03:50] <Madpilot> hanasaki: if it's Dual Layer, it's just new(er), not experimental
[03:50] <biovore> hanasaki: its a drive filmware hack at best
[03:50] <biovore> normal dvd+r drives can do it too..
[03:50] <hanasaki> i am lost.. filmware?
[03:50] <biovore> its all about the dvd drive its self
[03:50] <Delvien> hey guys did they fix wine with the new Dapper update?
[03:50] <hanasaki> hmm so Madpilot  says not exper.. biovore says its exp and a hack... ?/
[03:50] <kookaburra> did you mean firmware?
[03:51] <wastrel> anyone know why my cups daemon is trying to connect to ipv6 addresses (i've disabled ipv6)?  i can't print :[  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9033
[03:51] <biovore> I don't trust DL yet
[03:51] <biovore> ok UT Ladder match.. bbl
[03:51] <crimsun> weareallone: it means: open a Terminal, and type the command string verbatim following pastebin
[03:51] <Madpilot> hanasaki: I hadn't thought it was experimental, but maybe it is - I think my cd/dvd writer will burn DL
[03:51] <crimsun> weareallone: paste the results onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:51] <hanasaki> i just got one from LG for 40$
[03:51] <biovore> the LG's will do it :-)  I got one..
[03:52] <biovore> I have never done it though..
[03:52] <hanasaki> whew
[03:52] <gasp_> my router is evil
[03:53] <weareallone> results being, what u gave me in previous message?
[03:53] <LiteHedded> how do I install the smp kernel?
[03:53] <hanasaki> couldnt belive hte specs for only 40$  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827136063
[03:54] <hanasaki> Rating + 4Rating + 4[13 reviews] 
[03:54] <hanasaki> Add item to Cart
[03:54] <hanasaki> LG Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM, 5X DVD-RAM DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache E-IDE / ATAPI DVD Burner
[03:54] <jbmagic> kookaburra i very commited to make the switch
[03:55] <hanasaki> anyting in gnome or plan X thats good like k3b?  i hate having all the kde stuff just to burn disks
[03:55] <odla> hanasaki: gnomebaker?
[03:55] <odla> hanasaki: cdrecord?
[03:55] <crimsun> weareallone: output from the command I gave you, yes
[03:55] <hanasaki> chekcing now.. i never heard o f gnomebaker
[03:55] <hanasaki> odla need somethign w/ a gui.. its for some nongeeks
[03:56] <odla> hanasaki: gnomebaker
[03:56] <LiteHedded> how do I install the SMP kernel??
[03:56] <Madpilot> hanasaki: I've heard that the latest version of Gnomebaker is good - the one in Hoary did too many coasters for me, so I use k3b mostly
[03:56] <weareallone> this is a thread that addresses my issue?
[03:57] <crimsun> weareallone: ...?
[03:57] <wastrel> wh00t
[03:57] <odla> LiteHedded: apt-get install kernel-smp
[03:58] <odla> LiteHedded: but replace kernel-smp with the actual name of the kernel smp package
[03:58] <hanasaki> cooll i will try gnomebaker... the one in nautilus sucks
[03:58] <hanasaki> worse than the windows version it trys to be
[03:58] <weareallone> i went to paste bin and typed lspci -v..... for search, is that right?
[03:59] <odla> LiteHedded: i can't tell you the name of the actual kernel package name cause i'm running debian
[03:59] <kookaburra> jbmagic, right now I am running a little emachine 2.6 celeron with full multimedia capabilities. dvd ripping etc. so it can be done. I just took it home and immediately partitioned the hard drive for linux and installed. it never even booted windows.
[03:59] <odla> hanasaki: i like gnomebaker...it does everything k3b does
[03:59] <kookaburra> and I am not some leet user.
[03:59] <hanasaki> kookaburra  u are my hearro ;)
[03:59] <hanasaki> odla  ! psych! cool
[03:59] <kookaburra> not even leet at all. just willing to experiment and try.
[03:59] <gasp> kookaburra:: you rock
[04:00] <ProfessorChaos> is Bluetooth kernel patch 2.6.15-mh2 patch part of the latest kernel in dapper?
[04:00] <hanasaki> "i took all the windows out of my house... its much brighter now"  you heard that quote from me here/first ;)
[04:00] <kookaburra> i have had to redo stuff just like when i first started mucking about with windows. but that is just part of the fun right?
[04:00] <hanasaki> right
[04:00] <gasp> kookaburra:: it's nice to know that you can do that on an emachine. i'm getting ready to install edubuntu on one for my kiddies
[04:01] <wastrel> edubuntu eh
[04:01] <kookaburra> it will run edubuntu better than it will run xp I bet.
[04:01] <gasp> uh huh
[04:01] <gasp> s'my bet as well
[04:01] <rusakk0> hey
[04:02] <gasp> hey
[04:02] <luisito> hey, I am amazed about the Novell Xgl project, it is terrific!!! MacOS and Vista are really in problems now.
[04:02] <jbmagic> kookaburra ifi want to dual boot, i will need partion magic to partion my hd first before i install ubuntu?
[04:02] <rusakk0> I am a newbie and I need to open a rar file but Ark says that unrar utility is not on my path.. what does it mean?
[04:02] <kookaburra> that's right. you need to create a space on your hard drive for it.
[04:03] <crimsun> weareallone: no. Open a Terminal, type: lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[04:03] <LiteHedded> how do I restart X after ati install without rebooting?
[04:03] <franky123> rusakk0: it means you dont have the program to unzip it. you will need to get it.
[04:03] <crimsun> weareallone: then paste all the output onto the pastebin Web site
[04:03] <spyder89> someone please answer this ?
[04:03] <rusakk0> how do i get it and what is it?
[04:03] <Madpilot> rusakk0: you'll have to install the rar package
[04:03] <rusakk0> i thought ark was supposed to be the thing for me
[04:03] <jbmagic> kookaburra you recommend just swap and space for ubuntu only when i partioned?
[04:03] <Madpilot> rusakk0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:03] <randomtransit> help!! ubuntu broke!
[04:04] <spyder89> why when i try to install ubuntu i get not bootable disk
[04:04] <kookaburra> and then you can setup your bootloader to recognize both os's
[04:04] <gasp> randomtransit:: define broke?
[04:04] <ProfessorChaos> is Bluetooth kernel patch 2.6.15-mh2 patch part of the latest kernel in dapper????????/
[04:04] <kookaburra> that should be fine. you can create a home directory partition but that is not mandatory.
[04:05] <Arcole> how an i setup a nic for a static ip in command line. i have looked all over forums and all i see is info on how to do it in gnome or kde?
[04:05] <Arcole> *can
[04:05] <spyder89> hey anybody
[04:05] <wastrel> Arcole:  man interfaces   edit your /etc/network interfaces file
[04:06] <wastrel> Arcole:  recommend you make a backup of the existing one before messing with it
[04:06] <spyder89> why when i try to install ubuntu do i get the message not bootable disk
[04:06] <christopher_> spyder89, did you burn the disk yourself?
[04:06] <randomtransit> i think i messed up file ownerships somewhere
[04:06] <spyder89> yes
[04:06] <Arcole> did that and it says "don't seem to be have all the variables for eth0/inet." just like that lol
[04:06] <randomtransit> see, i run slackware 10.2 as well
[04:06] <christopher_> what speed did you use to burn the image?
[04:07] <randomtransit> just installed it yesterday
[04:07] <spyder89> best
[04:07] <spyder89> i can read the files
[04:07] <asterisk99> Question: I installed ubuntu on a Pentium 4... yest the kernel is -386    is this right??????
[04:07] <spyder89> but it doesnt seem to have an auto run
[04:07] <randomtransit> and i was trying to access the partition i setup for my media files
[04:07] <christopher_> spyder89, is there a number speed like 12X, 16X. 24X etc...
[04:07] <mike1> lo
[04:07] <randomtransit> it wouldn't let me...so i did a chown -R /mnt
[04:07] <LiteHedded> !ati
[04:07] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:08] <Toma-> asterisk99, yeh, its the standard kernel that works on everything. installing a 686 kernel will make it go .02 of a second faster
[04:08] <kookaburra> i386 is standard but you can change the kernel
[04:08] <randomtransit> now when i boot ubuntu, it won't let me log in
[04:08] <randomtransit> and the network wont come up
[04:08] <gach> hello
[04:08] <spyder89> yeah i can go up to 56x
[04:08] <asterisk99> Toma: What about Hyperthreading          (as opposed to Ridiculous Speed)
[04:08] <mike1> Hey my firefox and other apps have been crashing ever since I started using my Logitech wireless mouse any clue?
[04:08] <gach> anybody lnows where xorg 7 stores drivers files
[04:08] <christopher_> spyder89, if the iso is burned at too fast of a speed, it wont burn properly and can cause that to happen
[04:08] <gach> ?
[04:09] <weareallone> thank u. how does this work?
[04:09] <Toma-> asterisk99, then, you may have a point.
[04:09] <christopher_> spyder89, try burning it at 4X
[04:09] <spyder89> question when you download the os what should you see in the file
[04:09] <christopher_> ISOS require a slow speed
[04:09] <weareallone> sorry, i am an annoying novice
[04:09] <asterisk99> Toma: (Hope u got my reference to Spaceballs The Movie)
[04:09] <Toma-> asterisk99, yeh :P
[04:09] <christopher_> spyder89, you shouldnt have to open it... it should be a .iso and you burn that as is
[04:09] <bimberi> asterisk99: but what about ludicrous speed? :P
[04:10] <spyder89> is ubuntu dvd size or cdr size
[04:10] <mike1> cdr
[04:10] <christopher_> to answer your question i think there maybe be a couple files and directories and their sub directories
[04:10] <gasp> lol@bimberi
[04:10] <randomtransit> so can anyone help me?
[04:10] <don> Can someone tell me the best repository?
[04:10] <supaneko> Hi!
[04:10] <mike1> or help me?  wireless mouse killing apps?
[04:10] <smf_> HI
[04:10] <kookaburra> the best as in how?
[04:10] <spyder89> see i am using a mac to burn the cd
[04:11] <christopher_> you can use CDR to burn any OS
[04:11] <crimsun> weareallone: have you pastebinned it yet?
[04:11] <mike1> I've had to burn the iso at 3x
[04:11] <spyder89> one disk or more
[04:11] <kookaburra> killing your apps?
[04:11] <mike1> one disk
[04:11] <mike1> Yea ever since I started using the logitcech wireless mouse apps randomly crash
[04:11] <christopher_> DVD just fits more data and and has better quality but better utilized for video not plain data. unless you want to save alot of data..
[04:12] <spyder89> ok the file that i have when i put it into the program to burn it comes up much larger that one cdr
[04:12] <LiteHedded> how do I restart X?
[04:12] <christopher_> spyder89, ubuntu is one disc
[04:12] <mike1> dmesg | tail shows nothing
[04:12] <Toma-> LiteHedded, ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:12] <spyder89> thats what i thought
[04:12] <LiteHedded> doesn't work on my laptop
[04:12] <bimberi> LiteHedded: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[04:12] <fabsoli> i ae galera
[04:12] <gasp> LiteHedded:: alt+ctrl+backspace
[04:12] <supaneko> Hmmm... Can I really try to get some help in here?
[04:12] <Jeffrae> hi
[04:12] <LiteHedded> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/gdm not found.
[04:12] <Jeffrae> how do I start mode2?
[04:12] <spyder89> i will try again and see what happens
[04:13] <gasp> LiteHedded:: alt+ctrl+backspace
[04:13] <kookaburra> reconfigure xorg maybe mike1? I remember it having information concerning mice setups.
[04:13] <fabsoli> hey wasup?
[04:13] <LiteHedded> gasp that doesn't work for me
[04:13] <supaneko> ;) WELL... I'll ask 'n keep tryin' with the Google searches.
[04:13] <christopher_> spyder89, make sure to check the integrity of the cd and i believe the MD5SUM value
[04:13] <Jeffrae> anyone using lirc?
[04:13] <bimberi> LiteHedded: what display manager do you use?  kdm? xdm?
[04:13] <mike1> xorg in configured already, folling a number of forums and googles searches
[04:14] <fabsoli> could anybody help me with a video resolution problem?
[04:14] <mike1> sure
[04:14] <La_PaRCa> Hey kids. What is a good Python IDE?
[04:14] <mike1> what's the problem
[04:14] <weareallone> yes i did
[04:14] <fabsoli> wide screen is not ok
[04:14] <weareallone> yes i did
[04:14] <erik> KDM/GDM are equal- basically they are just the login screens. Kdm = kde's and Gdm = gnomes. I like KDM myself..
[04:15] <Deanodriver> hi
[04:15] <mesaboogie1> heya
[04:15] <mike1> fabsoli -- do you have the monitors specs refresh rate and max resolution?
[04:15] <Deanodriver> how are you?
[04:15] <weareallone> crimsun: yes i did that
[04:15] <crimsun> weareallone: URL?
[04:15] <smf_> what is the equivalent to the task manager with Linux Ubuntu?
[04:15] <mesaboogie1> cool, how'bout u?
[04:15] <fabsoli> i was seen xorg but there are the resolution what i want.....
[04:15] <RedRose> i have vsftpd installed, but no one can connect to me for browser FTP, why?
[04:15] <Deanodriver> yeah, not too bad :)
[04:15] <kookaburra> smf_, that would be the "system monitor"
[04:15] <Deanodriver> just bought a new monitor, i'm trying to find out how to set it up properly in ubuntu :)
[04:15] <weareallone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9035
[04:16] <mike1> for the monitors: google the refresh rate and resolution
[04:16] <smf_> the system monitor? Thank you. I am new 3 days :)
[04:16] <Deanodriver> it's an LCD :P
[04:16] <mike1> then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:16] <mesaboogie1> nice1 bro
[04:16] <Deanodriver> ok
[04:16] <mike1> in the xorg.conf file you'll have to add the refresh rate and resolutions
[04:16] <fabsoli> mikel, may i pvt?
[04:16] <kookaburra> google is such a verb anymore
[04:16] <mike1> sure
[04:17] <RedRose> i have vsftpd installed, but no one can connect to me for browser FTP, why? and how can i fix it
[04:17] <crimsun> weareallone: what model Dell is it?
[04:17] <Deanodriver> thanks
[04:17] <Deanodriver> now to find them out
[04:18] <weareallone> optiplex gx1
[04:18] <weareallone> ...? is that it?
[04:18] <malikyo> anyone know where a person can download filter/effects for Gimp?
[04:18] <luisito> google
[04:18] <crimsun> weareallone: is that on the cover?
[04:18] <mesaboogie1> intitle:"index of"  ?
[04:19] <smf_> any one an Opera user who has succesfuly install the Java Virtual Machine to view Java applets on websites? That installation has eluded me. Have tried 3 times. Anyone?
[04:19] <weareallone> yeah...
[04:19] <crimsun> weareallone: sudo modprobe snd-cs4237
[04:20] <mesaboogie1> smf_:  did you do it the gui way? (through opera)
[04:20] <weareallone> this is a package?
[04:20] <mike1> fabsoli did you recieve my requesr
[04:20] <Xenguy> I want to mount /dev/cdrom, but keep getting an error: /dev/fd0 doesn't exist -- how can I get /dev/fd0 ?  Do I need to re-create it?
[04:20] <Xenguy> sorry
[04:20] <Xenguy> I want to mount /dev/fd0
[04:21] <crimsun> weareallone: type that at the console
[04:21] <Xenguy> or does it mean the hardware is not being detected
[04:21] <Xenguy> ?
[04:21] <Deanodriver> how do I edit it with a GUI or console wizard (xf86config's newer equivalent?)
[04:21] <fabsoli> mikel, are you seen my pvt? (this question is because i just star irc on linux now ;)
[04:22] <La_PaRCa> Where are the logs for this channel kept?
[04:22] <rusakk0> i really have no idea what to do here.. I try reading the instructions but since this is the first time I use linux..
[04:22] <christopher_> hello, whats the command in terminal to install a .run file?
[04:22] <smf_> I had to download a .deb file and then run some codes in my terminal then they talked about reconfiguring my repos
[04:22] <Xenguy> smf_: sudo ./filename  ?
[04:22] <mike1> fabsoli, I sent the DCC offer to you
[04:22] <smf_> hold....
[04:22] <smf_> plz
[04:22] <weareallone> crimsun: not found
[04:22] <Deanodriver> wait, found specs on it :)
[04:22] <amphi> Deanodriver: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:23] <fabsoli> no
[04:23] <cooldaddydoof> smf_ sorry I use firefox
[04:23] <cooldaddydoof> rusakk0 what is the problem
[04:23] <Deanodriver> thanks :)
[04:23] <mesaboogie1> smf_:  trudat
[04:23] <crimsun> weareallone: which lspnp
[04:23] <smf_> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[04:23] <weareallone> ...?
[04:23] <rusakk0> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:23] <Xenguy> smf_: java stuff?  I guess you need a java environment of course
[04:24] <rusakk0> I am trying to get rar files opened and I read what to do there but it tells me nothing
[04:24] <smf_> I am doing something wrong but the instructions are more geared towards an other version of ubuntu
[04:24] <crimsun> weareallone: type that in the console.
[04:24] <smf_> I guess I can always use Firefox
[04:24] <rusakk0> what does it mean that I need to create a symbolic link etc
[04:24] <smf_> and avoid further headaches
[04:24] <fabsoli> cool: if you gave runnable rigths to the file is just like xenguy said
[04:24] <Xenguy> smf_: FF is a good choice :-)
[04:24] <fabsoli> cool: if you gave runnable rigths to the file is just like xenguy said
[04:24] <fabsoli> .
[04:24] <smf_> Since Opera is not an open source
[04:24] <weareallone> sorry, did that and have prompt again
[04:25] <smf_> I guess I can kick it to the curb
[04:25] <fabsoli> ops
[04:25] <Cainus> hey...anyone know how to get *write* access to a linux samba share from windows?  all I can do is read...
[04:25] <weareallone> ..after saying /sbin/lspnp
[04:25] <crimsun> weareallone: did you get any output?
[04:25] <Cainus> i'm thinking chmod 777 on my home dir might be overkill
[04:25] <weareallone> crimsun: sorry, refer to above ure last msg
[04:25] <Xenguy> Anyway, anyone know why I have no floppy device /dev/fd0  ?
[04:26] <crimsun> weareallone: I read that. I want to know if you got any output.
[04:26] <weareallone> guess not
[04:26] <smf_> Nothing wrong with Firefox. I am just so used to using Opera but I did use firefox before when i was using windows except I go plug in happy :)
[04:26] <Xenguy> smf_: give up Opera; it's really just a bad habit ;-)
[04:27] <Madpilot> smf_: Java works in Opera (at least in Breezy...)
[04:27] <mike1> fabsoli email me mjgreenwood@gmail.com
[04:27] <smf_> Hey Xen I gave windows after 3 days of using ubuntu so I can surely give up Opera:)
[04:27] <mike1> my nick isn't regestered
[04:27] <mesaboogie1> and it slows ryt down,.. i know
[04:27] <Xenguy> smf_: as long as it works, that's my motto
[04:27] <disasm> trying to get XDMCP/gdm/vnc/(x)inetd I've tried the tutorial that talks about xinetd and tried doing it with plain inetd, but I can't get it to listen to the port, this is dapper, any suggestions?
[04:27] <smf_> true true
[04:27] <mesaboogie1> haha, good one
[04:28] <fabsoli> mikel, do you use skype???
[04:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> what exactly is plan9 ?
[04:28] <smf_> thanks for your time guys.
[04:28] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: a different operating system
[04:28] <smf_> is skype free and does it have voice chat?
[04:28] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: plan9.bell-labs.com
[04:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: is it a unix, a linux or what
[04:28] <jbmagic> what apps comes with ubuntu when you do the full install?
[04:28] <Xenguy> smf_: I don't believe it is free as in freedom
[04:29] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: unix related, but wikipedia knows best
[04:29] <smf_> So no voice with Linux to Windows?
[04:29] <weareallone> crimsun: no output
[04:29] <Xenguy> smf_: dunno
[04:29] <mike1> fabsoli<  I have it installed but never used it (yahoo account for gaim is mikeandadina@yahoo.com
[04:29] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think the papers at the Labs site would be better than wikipedia
[04:29] <crimsun> weareallone: do you have "Plug n' Play OS" enabled in BIOS?
[04:29] <smf_> My girl friend is mad because I dumped my windows XP and now we have no voice chat
[04:29] <mesaboogie1> smf_:  you can check this too (breezy, are you not using breezy?) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/java&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/java%26num%3D75%26hl%3Den%26hs%3D4cN%26lr%3D%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den
[04:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> I have an amd 700mhz with 128 ram, i think the dvd-rom drive is broken, how do i get ubuntu on that machine ?
[04:30] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: it runs nicely under qemu if you want to play with it
[04:30] <jbmagic> what some good apps you guys recommend to get after ubuntu is installed?
[04:30] <smf_> I am using breezy yes new version
[04:30] <mesaboogie1> skypes free (enough)
[04:30] <smf_> ok looking
[04:30] <smf_> ty
[04:30] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: look on the Install wiki page for something like 'network install'
[04:30] <gasp> yikes culture shock
[04:30] <gasp> i just installed fluxbox
[04:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !networkinstall
[04:30] <ubotu> Install without a cdrom, recommended for people with broadband https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[04:30] <Xenguy> gasp: minimalist :-)
[04:30] <smf_> do I need a phone line for skype? Cus I only gots cable no phone line LMAO
[04:30] <weareallone> not sure, i'll come back fter i check, u still gonna be here?
[04:31] <mike1> fabsoli what's your skype number?
[04:31] <disasm> gasp: it's much better isn't it :-D
[04:31] <amphi> gasp: nice, altough I prefer openbox, personally
[04:31] <gasp> Xenguy:: i was using window maker
[04:31] <mesaboogie1> gasp, cool!
[04:31] <crimsun> weareallone: yes. ping me when you return.
[04:31] <weareallone> thx a lot
[04:31] <Xenguy> gasp: I used that for a long time - I liked it
[04:31] <bimberi> smf_: http://www.skype.com
[04:31] <smf_> ok L@@king
[04:31] <gasp> i've been using window maker for years, but i'm tired of the lack of progress it's making
[04:31] <smf_> ty
[04:31] <jbmagic> what the best dvd ripping to use? and best cd ripping to use?
[04:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: so  all i need for that pc is a network card? and i can install ubuntu on it?
[04:32] <disasm> smf_: what about voip, would something like that work? I know there are voip clients for windows, and one of my clients had someone set him up a debian linux box to act as a voip server (using asterisk i think)
[04:32] <Xenguy> gasp: I use gnome on fast hardware, and xfce on slower boxen these days
[04:32] <bimberi> !xorg
[04:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:32] <smf_> I will keep voip in mind as I know nothing about it
[04:32] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: I have no idea since I've never tried it, but it sounds plausible.  Read the web page instructions carefully :-)
[04:32] <mesaboogie1> (i don't know windowmaker) it looks beautiful >at least the asian's desktops do!
[04:32] <smf_> but I will search high and low
[04:32] <smf_> ty
[04:32] <bimberi> Ober: ^^^^
[04:32] <TiG4> How would I recursively delete everything within a directory without deleting the directory
[04:33] <Ober> i see
[04:33] <disasm> TiG4: rm -r /path/to/directory/*
[04:33] <Ober> thanks
[04:33] <intelikey> TiG4 rm -Rf /dir/*
[04:33] <TiG4> thanks
[04:33] <Xenguy> TiG4: rm -rf dir/*   ? (nottested!)
[04:33] <TiG4> hehe wow thanks
[04:33] <jbmagic> any way to instal ubuntu without all the apps that come with it? this way you can install later what you want and use
[04:33] <gasp> Xenguy:: i like gnome on speedy hardware, but xfce just isn't quite my taste
[04:33] <disasm> jbmagic: server
[04:33] <moonunit> jbmagic, server install
[04:34] <Mordof> w00t! im on dapper drake :D
[04:34] <Xenguy> gasp: I didn't really like it the first couple of times I looked at it, but it grew on me -- it's acutally not badly designed at all
[04:34] <jbmagic> disasm so download the server install.. is it easy to install for a newbie?
[04:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i love xfce :-)
[04:34] <smf_> disas. Voip looks good :)
[04:34] <gasp> Xenguy:: i agree, it's got a nice design........i've actually set that up for my kids to use on this box
[04:35] <WiFiTux> is it me or someone broke nm-applet on Dapper?
[04:35] <mesaboogie1> :)
[04:35] <gasp> to me it's just funny looking though
[04:35] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: gnome is heavy for 128mb ram
[04:35] <Xenguy> gasp: it's snappy fast, and minimalist but I can get my work done fast
[04:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: yea i don't have that pc set-up yet, but it will be running xfce or maybe no gui at all.
[04:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: i  need to buy a network card
[04:35] <luisito> how a googlekey works?
[04:35] <IdleOne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9036 can someone check that out and tell me what it means?
[04:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> the dvd-rom on that pc is hosed
[04:35] <Ober> now gdm wont start :D
[04:35] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: realtek 8139 is damn cheap, and works
[04:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: how cheap
[04:35] <gasp> Xenguy:: that's one of the things i like about wmaker
[04:36] <Xenguy> gasp: it's based on the tradition unix 'cde' desktop BTW
[04:36] <Xenguy> gasp: er, traditional*
[04:36] <fabsoli> mikel: my nickname is fabsoli
[04:36] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: where are you?
[04:36] <mesaboogie1> i like the fact that fluxbox has such a cool homepage/guide and lots and lots of hotkeys
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: US
[04:36] <disasm> jbmagic: not too bad if you understand apt-get commands
[04:36] <spyder89> christopher you there
[04:36] <gasp> Xenguy:: i loathe cde.........had to use it when i was in the military and it was just a horrible experience
[04:36] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: dunno, USD5 maybe, 10 max I'd have thought
[04:36] <Xenguy> gasp: hehe
[04:36] <jbmagic> disasm so server install, i need to be onlien when its installing?
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: from where..?
[04:36] <Xenguy> gasp: solarix or hp ?
[04:36] <morph_> hi all
[04:37] <gasp> Xenguy:: both
[04:37] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: dunno, I'm not in .us
[04:37] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: but 8139 pci cards are dirt cheap
[04:37] <Xenguy> gasp: I used it for awhile in a unix shop some years back
[04:37] <intelikey> TiG4 also of note, that will not get hiden files and dirs.    more specificly  use rm -Rf dir/`ls -A1`    if you really want to get everything.
[04:37] <morph_> i'd like to know the name of the unstable brach of ubuntu
[04:37] <RememberPOL> Does anybody know how to run hardware acceleration on a Geforce Go 7800 GTX?
[04:37] <Madpilot> CanYouHelpMePlz: any computer store should be able to sell you a network card
[04:37] <disasm> mesaboogie1: i went from kde1 -> wmaker -> flux -> xfce -> flux -> gnome -> flux with many other less known wm's in the middle, I just haven't found anything that can compare to flux ;-)
[04:37] <Xenguy> morph_: dapper
[04:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: i wonder if the xbox NIC is compatible
[04:37] <mesaboogie1> heya morph_
[04:37] <_jason> morph_: the development version is dapper, there is no 'unstable'
[04:37] <morph_> tnx :D
[04:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Madpilot: yea i just want a dirt cheap one
[04:38] <mesaboogie1> disasm: heh
[04:38] <intelikey> TiG4 or without dir/  but cd into the dir first....
[04:38] <morph_> i'd like to test it
[04:38] <gasp> Xenguy:: yeah there was a bunch of us that used to regularly annoy the admins by changing various things that they didn't think we should be able to change in CDE
[04:38] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: no idea - rip it out and see what lscpi has to say about it - MS WinEthernet perhaps ;)
[04:38] <mesaboogie1> cool"
[04:38] <morph_> it's hard?
[04:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: lol
[04:38] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: a softNIC ;)
[04:38] <Xenguy> gasp: admins: some are with you, and some are agin ya ;-)
[04:38] <IdleOne> whats the command to clear the terminal?
[04:38] <gasp> Xenguy:: yup
[04:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: what is softNIC
[04:38] <mesaboogie1> can gnome and firefox make hotkeys like opera and flux can? guys
[04:38] <gasp> Xenguy:: they were annoyed with us for knowing as much if not more than they did
[04:38] <amphi> CanYouHelpMePlz: a winmodem equiv I just made up
[04:39] <disasm> IdleOne: clear
[04:39] <IdleOne> heh
[04:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> amphi: ahh i see
[04:39] <IdleOne> thanks
[04:39] <gasp> ok, so why isn't the style i installed showing up in the menu
[04:39] <gasp> *grumble*
[04:39] <Xenguy> gasp: that's a tough place to be for a sysadmin, but there's always a few power users out there
[04:39] <IdleOne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9036 can someone check that out and tell me what it means?
[04:39] <mesaboogie1> kikt!
[04:39] <digi> hey just wanted to know how much space does ubuntu takes with minimal instalation + GNOME
[04:40] <jbmagic> server install, i need to be online when its installing?
[04:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jbmagic: no
[04:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jbmagic: it has no gui, if it's a desktop don't use that install
[04:40] <jbmagic> ok
[04:40] <Xenguy> digi: don't quote me, but something like 3.5-4.5 Gb ??
[04:40] <digi> really?!
[04:40] <Xenguy> digi: it's documented somewhere
[04:40] <gasp> Xenguy:: yeah they loved us..........they wouldn't admit it, but we really did make their lives easier when it came down to it
[04:40] <Xenguy> digi: how much room you got?
[04:41] <intelikey> digi about 500m  but i doubt you really mean minimal+'nome   so more like the default is 1.7g
[04:41] <cyblivious> anybody knows of an RSS reader with newspaper view/layout?
[04:41] <digi> 1.5gb
[04:41] <spyder89> xenguy why when i try to install ubuntu it give me error "crc error"
[04:41] <Xenguy> digi: do you need X?
[04:41] <Ober> hmm firegl drivers dont match the xorg installed....
[04:41] <Xenguy> spyder89: sounds like a bad CD?
[04:42] <intelikey> yeah 1.5~9  some where in there.   about 1.7
[04:42] <spyder89> bad cd or bad cdrom
[04:42] <Ober> man this does not even work even though the package comes with ubuntu...
[04:42] <Ober> oh well
[04:42] <shortjollio> how come i cant write to my usr folder?
[04:43] <weareallone> crimsun: no options for that in bios, but i did not have to install anything for my dvd drive
[04:43] <intelikey> digi i don't have x but this is not a minimalest install either and note "/dev/hda2               360655    282648     78007  79% / "
[04:43] <Xenguy> shortjollio: permissions issue most likely
[04:43] <_jason> shortjollio: because root owns it
[04:43] <crimsun> weareallone: dpkg -l pcmcia-cs|grep ^ii
[04:43] <digi> so.
[04:43] <digi> ~700mb w/o x /
[04:43] <digi> ?
[04:44] <smf_> Out.......Peace \/
[04:44] <intelikey> digi that is a 360m partition ^  with 78m free   that's my whole system.
[04:44] <_jason> shortjollio: you shouldn't need to write to /usr, but if you really believe you do, use sudo
[04:44] <shortjollio> well how do i make it so i can
[04:44] <digi> oh
[04:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell shortjollio about sudo
[04:44] <digi> sounds nice
[04:44] <shortjollio> _jason i know about sudo but is there a way to do it without going into th terminal
[04:45] <_jason> shortjollio: what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:45] <asymmetry> shortjollio, didnt know the terminal was such a bad thing
[04:45] <digi> i just want a ubuntu machine at home for my guests since it looks rather easy to use
[04:45] <weareallone> no packages found
[04:45] <shortjollio> _jason, i downloaded some new brushes for gimp and id like to put them in the brush folder
[04:45] <digi> 333mhz 160mb ram 1.5gb
[04:46] <_jason> shortjollio: put them in ~/.gimp-2.2/brushes/
[04:46] <asymmetry> i guess running ubuntu on a p4 2.8 1gb ram 80gb hdd is overkill...
[04:46] <shortjollio> _jason, how?
[04:46] <zebraFusion> Can anyone recommend a good ftp server to go along with an apache install?
[04:46] <_jason> shortjollio: open nautilus and navigate to .gimp-2.2/brushes in your $HOME, then copy and paste
[04:47] <biovore> zebraFusion: proftpd
[04:47] <intelikey> digi if you are really talking minimalest + gnome .  like i said 500m     i have installed ubuntu 5.4 on 190m partition   but you can't use the installer for that...          and yes if you make a single partition of that 1.5 you might be able to let it install 'default'
[04:47] <WiFiTux> anyone here on dapper with network-manager installed?
[04:47] <biovore> or wu-ftpd
[04:47] <jbmagic> is there a list to show what apps comes wioth ubuntu when you install it?
[04:47] <_jason> shortjollio: you'll need to show hidden folders (press ctrl+h)
[04:47] <digi> ok ill just try and see
[04:47] <digi> best way to learn
[04:47] <digi> ahhe
[04:48] <intelikey> indeed
[04:48] <shortjollio> _jason, ok thx, that works
[04:48] <digi> ty
[04:48] <Xenguy> jbmagic: use 'synaptic', or do 'dpkg -l * |less'
[04:48] <intelikey> np
[04:48] <zebraFusion> biovore, is that a popular release?
[04:48] <kookaburra> jbmagic, surf this link:  http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[04:48] <intelikey> why the asterisk in that Xenguy ?
[04:48] <fabsoli> thank you guys see ya
[04:48] <jbmagic> Xenguy i mean before i isntall full ubuntu
[04:48] <digi> good night to all of you and thanks again
[04:48] <LordMelkor> how can i get realplayer to play embedded realvideo?
[04:49] <LordMelkor> (in firefox)
[04:49] <Madpilot> jbmagic: that'll be a pretty long list, there's thousands of apps available (not all installed by default, of course!)
[04:49] <mattwestm> how do you burn an iso in linux?
[04:49] <weareallone> crimsun: no packages found
[04:49] <crimsun> weareallone: sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs
[04:49] <Xenguy> jbmagic: there's gonna be like 10's of thousands of lines in that list ;-)
[04:49] <Xenguy> intelikey: redundant?
[04:49] <intelikey> yeah
[04:49] <WiFiTux> LordMelkor: enable multiverse and use apt-cache searc
[04:49] <Xenguy> ahh
[04:49] <WiFiTux> h
[04:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell mattwestm about iso
[04:49] <LordMelkor> wifitux: search for what?
[04:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !bin
[04:50] <ubotu> CanYouHelpMePlz: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:50] <jbmagic> seems like default of ubuntu only has GNOME Office, OpenOffice. i really hope there not too many. i just like to have what i use only
[04:50] <Madpilot> mattwestm: in Ubuntu, just find your ISO in the file manager and right-click on it, select "Burn To Disc" - done
[04:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i install a .bin ?
[04:50] <_jason> CanYouHelpMePlz: what are you trying to install?
[04:50] <weareallone> crimson: all values 0
[04:50] <Madpilot> jbmagic: OpenOffice is default
[04:50] <mattwestm> is there a command line version?
[04:50] <intelikey> CanYouHelpMePlz sh file.bin
[04:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> _jason: a newer version of xfce
[04:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: thanks!
[04:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need help with my external cd
[04:50] <crimsun> weareallone: ?
[04:50] <jbmagic> so ubuntu is pretty clean when you install the default..you not goign to get alot of junk apps?
[04:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> is usb, and ubuntu dint recognizes it...
[04:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jbmagic: nope
[04:50] <weareallone> crimsun: already newest version
[04:50] <jbmagic> nice
[04:51] <Xenguy> jbmagic: you want the 'server' install I think
[04:51] <shortjollio> _jason, i dont see the new brushes tho when i use gimp
[04:51] <Madpilot> jbmagic: that depends on your own def'n of "junk apps"...
[04:51] <jbmagic> server install has no gui i hear
[04:51] <crimsun> weareallone: does ``pnpdump'' return anything?
[04:51] <_jason> shortjollio: did you close gimp and start it up again
[04:51] <intelikey> jbmagic depends on your deffinition of 'junk apps'
[04:51] <Xenguy> jbmagic: yes, were you the one who was short of space?
[04:51] <jbmagic> junk apps= apps that i am not going to use
[04:51] <jbmagic> Xenguy no
[04:51] <Xenguy> jbmagic: OK, nm then
[04:51] <LordMelkor> how can i get realplayer to play embedded realvideo? (for firefox)
[04:51] <shortjollio> _jason, yes
[04:52] <Madpilot> jbmagic: the whole standard install of Ubuntu is ~1.8Gb, just so you know
[04:52] <LordMelkor> right now mplayer is taking over, and it doesnt work right
[04:52] <weareallone> crimsun: nope
[04:52] <jbmagic> so ubuntu installs alot of apps for default?  i hope it will be easy to remove if i dont want
[04:52] <kookaburra> jbmagic, that is up to your opinion. the entire install is only one cd. it isn't THAT huge compared to wondows xp.
[04:52] <axisys> anyone know of a good calendar app that I can use with my work imap/exchange server ... or some app to fetch the calendar? i am keep missing my schedule meetings
[04:52] <shortjollio> _jason, i went to where it shows the brushes and they werent there
[04:52] <Madpilot> jbmagic: and that includes OpenOffice, Firefox, the GIMP, etc
[04:52] <intelikey> Madpilot is that breezy ?
[04:52] <_jason> shortjollio: let me try, link me to a random brush please?
[04:52] <weareallone> pnpdump
[04:52] <kookaburra> windows even
[04:52] <Madpilot> intelikey: the installed size? yes
[04:52] <Xenguy> axisys: I use evolution (with kalarm too)
[04:52] <intelikey> yeah
[04:53] <intelikey> it continues to grow...
[04:53] <intelikey> 1.7 hoary
[04:53] <axisys> Xenguy: how do u like it?
[04:53] <Xenguy> axisys: that's a LookOut'ish email app
[04:53] <shortjollio> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24531489/
[04:53] <Madpilot> intelikey: any idea what the basic install of Dapper is going to be?
[04:53] <Xenguy> axisys: it's buggy but it's good enough, will probably get better, and it's all I have right now :-)
[04:53] <intelikey> no i don't.
[04:53] <Peteresque> hi
[04:53] <axisys> so when u have a schedule meeting in calendar does it pop up in time?
[04:53] <kookaburra> if you want a small os just install Damn Small Linux
[04:53] <jml> where's the best place to go for up-to-date information on running Ubuntu on a powerbook?
[04:53] <kookaburra> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=damnsmall
[04:54] <Xenguy> axisys: I just find it slow too, so it takes patience, but it does the job
[04:54] <shortjollio> _jason, wait i got it to work
[04:54] <intelikey> looking like about 1.85 1.9  but that changes.....
[04:54] <LordMelkor> the damnsmall window manager is ugly
[04:54] <_jason> shortjollio: ok
[04:54] <weareallone> crimsun:nuthin
[04:54] <LordMelkor> good for data recovery tho
[04:54] <Xenguy> axisys: the pop-up doesn't work for me ATM, so I use kalarm each day to set pop-up alarms
[04:54] <axisys> for email i am using mutt to read the exchange imap files.. just the calendar functionality is missing
[04:54] <kookaburra> fluxbox is pretty sparse
[04:54] <shortjollio> _jason, i need to extract it to home folder and then cut and paste it to the brush folder, instead of just eaxtracting to brush
[04:54] <weareallone> crimsun: nadda
[04:54] <shortjollio> _jason, thx a lot man
[04:54] <_jason> shortjollio: np
[04:55] <crimsun> weareallone: is there anything in bios about specific resources to allocate to your sound chipset?
[04:55] <FearMoth> I want to install the kernel sources in Ubuntu 5.10 .. uname -r tells me my kernel version is 2.6.12-10-k7, but the closest match for kernel sources in synaptic is kernel-source-2.6.11 ... where can I find the kernel sources that match my kernel version?
[04:55] <Xenguy> axisys: I just wanted something that could do Exchange on linux - evolution is one option that works
[04:55] <weareallone> crimsun: no
[04:55] <unk468> hello , i just installed an ubunt00 as a "server" (when i booted from cd) How can i make these things: -configure the internet (not dhcp, but static) how can i change the asking level of sistem (ask lot of things/medium/or just what coud breake sistem) how can i use a http://proxy ? how can I install the X interface very "custom" (i don`t neet all tha funky stuff from gnome)?
[04:56] <sizzam> anyone successfully using the gnome-clipboard-daemon
[04:56] <Laz> is flight 3 the newest version
[04:56] <crimsun> no, Flight 4 is out
[04:56] <axisys> anyone else have a solution for exchange calendar? i will check out kalarm that Xenguy uses
[04:56] <Laz> shit
[04:56] <smf_> back :)
[04:56] <asterisk99> How can I have a server program like Asterisk run on bootup?
[04:56] <gach> ok
[04:56] <kookaburra> wow unk468 try not to ask everything all at once man. that is one heck of a laundry list
[04:56] <gach> i need help
[04:56] <gasp> hi laz
[04:56] <Peteresque> does ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth
[04:56] <unk468> uh how can i enable the root account i hate sudo
[04:57] <gach> with XGL
[04:57] <axisys> !exchange
[04:57] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[04:57] <crimsun> weareallone: does ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236 isapnp=0'' work?
[04:57] <gach> anybody?
[04:57] <Xenguy> axisys: I just assume that the evolution pop-ups will be fixed eventually
[04:57] <axisys> !calendar
[04:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[04:57] <Laz> hi gasp
[04:57] <Peteresque> does ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth
[04:57] <httpdss> does anyone know how to change the bitrate of an ogg vorbis ??? (from 192 to 128)
[04:57] <kookaburra> oh my gosh. you *want* to run as root unk468!?
[04:57] <unk468> kookaburra :)
[04:57] <smf_> Can some one plz tell me where ubuntu keeps the downloaded files from FrostWire when they are done downloading?
[04:57] <axisys> Xenguy: i am sure soon it will
[04:57] <weareallone> ami supposed to be includding ''?
[04:57] <Laz> peter it does experimentally :P
[04:57] <crimsun> weareallone: no
[04:57] <Peteresque> does ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth
[04:57] <kookaburra> yeah, that is pretty smart. make sure you enable every possible service too.
[04:57] <linux_user400354> I am trying to download jdk5.0 for linux using wget -c. wget complains the filename is too long. I think wget is trying to name the file with the entire url of the file. how can i fix this?
[04:57] <sinaduel> Is there voice recognition software for linux?
[04:58] <FearMoth> I want to install the kernel sources in Ubuntu 5.10 .. uname -r tells me my kernel version is 2.6.12-10-k7, but the closest match for kernel sources in synaptic is kernel-source-2.6.11 ... where can I find the kernel sources that match my kernel version?
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> what is the name of the xpixmaps?
[04:58] <kookaburra> enable remote logins... the works. and stay as root at all times
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> for apt-get install
[04:58] <Laz> Peteresque: Yes but experimentally
[04:59] <kookaburra> my gosh. you are right unk468! sudo sucks. *I* should run as root at all times too.
[04:59] <weareallone> crimsun: got nuthin
[04:59] <Madpilot> kookaburra: stop giving such "good" advice :P
[04:59] <unk468> ok, then first how the internet can be enabled ? is the first distro witch tells me that i have dhcp, but i hav static...
[04:59] <intelikey> unk468 you asked a lot and i will only address two of the questions for now.  1 level of sistem questions dpkg-reconfigure dpkg  and choose high   for only the highest priority questions   or low for all the possable questions   2 installing just x  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:59] <gasp> lol
[04:59] <dabaR> Laz: on what release?
[04:59] <gasp> sduo is kinda nice
[04:59] <unk468> no i like su -
[04:59] <themachine> what music player can play wma?
[04:59] <themachine> or is there possibly a converter?
[04:59] <Laz> dabaR: dapper
[04:59] <Madpilot> themachine: install the w32codecs, and Totem or nearly anything can
[04:59] <crimsun> weareallone: elaborate. Do you get an error, or do you just get the prompt back immediately?
[04:59] <Madpilot> !tell themachine about w32codecs
[05:00] <dabaR> Laz: coolio
[05:00] <weareallone> prompt
[05:00] <Bmur> Few questions: Is Dapper going to retain the brown theme?  I don't necessarily care too much, but I know that other people do.  Will Gnome 2.14 be able to change file permissions recursively from the GUI?  How much of a performance increase are we going to see with Dapper (vs. 5.10)?
[05:00] <Jeffrae> HI anyone usin LIRC?
[05:00] <crimsun> weareallone: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:00] <Laz> dabaR but it takes a lot of work to make it work :)
[05:00] <weareallone> cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:00] <weareallone> doh
[05:00] <cheryl> hi can ne one tell me the msn messenger equivalent to dl please?
[05:00] <dabaR> Laz: pah
[05:00] <intelikey> unk468 sorry debconf not dpkg       'what was i thinking'
[05:00] <IdleOne> cheryl:  amsn
[05:00] <Madpilot> Bmur: brown - yes, AFAIK. recursive from GUI - no idea, but it would be nice. preformance increase - probably, Breezy is faster here than Hoary was :P
[05:00] <IdleOne> !amsn
[05:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[05:01] <kookaburra> !tell unk468 about root
[05:01] <phillipc> what package can I get intltoolize from?
[05:01] <cheryl> thanks :)
[05:01] <Bmur> Madpilot: K, thanks.
[05:01] <weareallone> crimsun: 0 [CS4236B        ] : CS4236B - CS4236B
[05:01] <weareallone>                      CS4236B at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&3
[05:01] <wastrel> Bmur:  wouldn't be too hard to write a script to fix the theme
[05:01] <crimsun> weareallone: now adjust the volumes using alsamixer ('m' to unmute)
[05:01] <dougemd> has anyone here used sane?
[05:02] <dabaR> Laz: is the work documented anywhere?
[05:02] <LiteHedded> !samba
[05:02] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> where should i put a .so file
[05:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> on my pc, like where is the best spot
[05:02] <dougemd> I'm brand new to ubuntu and the package manager the latest build of sane says it recongnizes my printer
[05:02] <dougemd> but the verison I have with my unbuntu install doesn't
[05:02] <Laz> dabaR: i can find it for you :)
[05:02] <phillipc> philc: intltool
[05:02] <weareallone> thank you thank you thank you
[05:02] <overrider> hello, does anyone know of a free viewer for autocad drawings such as .dwg and .dxf ?
[05:02] <intelikey> unk468 as to dhcp -vs- static ip's   i don't do networking or windows.  sorry.
[05:02] <dabaR> Laz: heh
[05:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: where do i put a .so file
[05:03] <Bmur> Wastrel: Well, I change it for myself.  ...but brown really isn't a very great default.
[05:03] <AMDXP> Hi there has anyone sucessfully setup MythTV on ATI Wonder card
[05:03] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: you can set it to static config via System > Administration > Networking
[05:03] <crimsun> weareallone: now, to make sure it works on next boot, you need to type the following at the console: echo "options snd-cs4236 isapnp=0" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/snd-cs4236
[05:03] <asterisk99> where can I find documentation on how to set up a program to run after boot-up?
[05:03] <Madpilot> Bmur: well, it's not blue, or that horribly plastic default XP theme :P
[05:03] <intelikey> CanYouHelpMePlz hehhe for what ?    ( but probably in /lib  or maybe  /usr/lib  or even /var/lib )
[05:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: for x pix maps
[05:04] <Jeffrae> is there a god howto on lirc and ubuntu?
[05:04] <crimsun> weareallone: then: echo "snd-cs4236" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[05:04] <Bmur> Madpilot: True.
[05:04] <IdleOne> !lirc
[05:04] <ubotu> lirc is probably at http://www.lirc.com
[05:04] <wastrel> libxpm4 is packaged in apt
[05:04] <intelikey> CanYouHelpMePlz is there not a readme or howto that came with your dl ?   or one on the site that will explain what to do with it ?
[05:05] <Jeffrae> i been there
[05:05] <Ex-Cyber> is X in Dapper monolithic, modular, or some kind of mix?
[05:05] <mesaboogie1> AMDXP:  the howto at ldp would suggest so
[05:05] <yaaar> is there a command i can run or somewhere i can look to find out what type of memory my system uses? the chipset (intel 845) can support both sdram and ddr, but i don't know which this board has
[05:05] <mesaboogie1> (linuxdocumentationproject)
[05:05] <Jeffrae> I installed lirc using package manager
[05:05] <AMDXP> mesaboogie1: ok i will check it out
[05:05] <LordMelkor> memsaboobilage
[05:05] <intelikey> CanYouHelpMePlz if not look in the dirs i mentioned for a file of the same name.....   (make backups before you overwrite)
[05:05] <gpled> has anyone been getting lockups, with the last kernel update?
[05:06] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: i got it, but where should i install xfce, is /usr/local ok?
[05:06] <mesaboogie1> lol
[05:06] <IdleOne> Jeffrae:  what do you need to know then?
[05:06] <Jeffrae> well i installed it
[05:06] <unk468> okay i noted on in my note book the command`s thanks intelikey | kookaburra
[05:06] <intelikey> should be fine CanYouHelpMePlz,  but /usr/X*/  is probably the prefered place.
[05:06] <_smd_> I was wondering if anyone else was having problems in
[05:06] <_smd_> gaim with getting user info in  Msn,not icq ?
[05:06] <Jeffrae> I just don't see how to test it with ubuntu.. I get errors saying not set up
[05:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: /usr/X*/ ?
[05:07] <Jeffrae> is there a howto on lirc and the ubuntu distro
[05:07] <kookaburra> please don't take any of the advice *I* gave you about root unk468
[05:07] <gasp> Laz:: do i know you?
[05:07] <IdleOne> try wiki.ubuntu.com/lirc
[05:07] <cheryl> I'm havin probs installing amsn ...
[05:07] <intelikey> yeah CanYouHelpMePlz 'ls /usr/ '   and you will see what i mean
[05:07] <Jeffrae> thanks :)
[05:07] <Laz> gasp: i guess you do
[05:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> x11r6 ?
[05:07] <Peteresque> can some 1 prvt me???
[05:07] <Jeffrae> hmm does not exist yet
[05:07] <intelikey> that's it
[05:08] <gasp> Laz:: ok.
[05:08] <Jeffrae> maybe you know of some other software that might help me
[05:08] <kookaburra> pervert you Peteresque !?
[05:08] <Jeffrae> I just need to use lirc to see the pulses of my remote
[05:08] <kookaburra> heck no!
[05:08] <IdleOne> Jeffrae:  sorry i dont use it so I dont know how to set it up :/
[05:08] <unk468> is not about networking it`s about the thing that ubuntuu thinks/belive that my ISP have dhcp , but I have a static ip adress . in need to do a " netcfg or netcard configure" to input the ip / gateway / dns etc.
[05:08] <Jeffrae> I am going to emulate it with a circuit
[05:08] <Jeffrae> its cool
[05:08] <Jeffrae> thanks for trying :)
[05:08] <IdleOne> np
[05:08] <Peteresque> can some 1 private me???got some serious questions
[05:08] <intelikey> of course you know that the executable goes in <whereever>/bin/ CanYouHelpMePlz
[05:09] <Peteresque> can some 1 private me???got some serious questions
[05:09] <IdleOne> Peteresque:  ask your question here it may help other users also
[05:09] <Madpilot> Peteresque: please stop repeating, and just ask your questions here...
[05:09] <_smd_> I also noticed at work with windows xp i cannot get user info either anymore, so i dont know if it is a all over problem... as I can only get on msn and aim at work
[05:09] <Peteresque> anybody had the list of supported apps by Ubuntu???
[05:09] <wastrel> unk468:  system > administration > networking
[05:09] <_smd_> And i know at home i can get icq info
[05:09] <Peteresque> anybody had the list of supported apps by Ubuntu???
[05:10] <unk468> i don`t have X
[05:10] <_smd_> but at work i cannot log on at all
[05:10] <unk468> gome etc
[05:10] <bimberi> Peteresque: (stop repeating) http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:10] <unk468> wastrel
[05:10] <Madpilot> Peteresque: there's 16,000+ packages in Ubuntu's repos, and they all work in Ubuntu (mostly...)...
[05:10] <Laz> Is Windows Vista supported in Ubuntu?
[05:10] <LiteHedded> I need help getting samba running. please don't say !samba
[05:10] <Peteresque> thx...
[05:10] <kookaburra> omg. windows vista
[05:10] <intelikey> CanYouHelpMePlz now let me give some free (un-solicited) advice, make notes of where you have put all those files you have installed by hand; because sooner or later you will be looking for them.
[05:10] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: it won't once you set it up to have static IP, upon install did you set it to dhcp or manual?
[05:10] <weareallone> crimsun: done, do i need to reboot?
[05:10] <skon> is there another way to install to hard drive from live cd instead of using espresso?
[05:11] <Madpilot> Laz: go wash your mouth out with soap! :P
[05:11] <IdleOne> lol
[05:11] <Laz> :p
[05:11] <unk468> id detected automaticaly that I have dhcp but i have static
[05:11] <Jeffrae> I wish ubuntu was supported on the i5
[05:11] <_smd_> I read thr gaim page tonight and they have no reported problems as i can see
[05:11] <LiteHedded> !samba
[05:11] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:11] <Jeffrae> i am stuck with suse
[05:11] <kookaburra> the i5? what's that?
[05:11] <wastrel> unk468:  what detected?  is this ethernet?  dsl?  cablemodem?   dialup?
[05:11] <IdleOne> Imac G5
[05:11] <Laz> !php
[05:11] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:12] <unk468> lan ?
[05:12] <kookaburra> i see
[05:12] <unk468> ethernet
[05:12] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: well, there is a file somewhere that you can set to make it static.. I only know of the thing manually, but didn't that network options under gnome help _at_ all?
[05:12] <Peteresque> does ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth?
[05:12] <Bmur> Have any of you been running the alpha of Dapper?  If so, what are your first impressions?  Will it be able to run better on older hardware?  ...something like a 400mhz.  Have any of you been running Breezy on older hardware?
[05:12] <Laz> !Windows Vista
[05:12] <ubotu> Laz: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:12] <wastrel> unk468:  system > administration > networking
[05:12] <intelikey> CanYouHelpMePlz it's a lot easier to make notes now and save them in a file, than to try to remember all the file names and where they are, tomarrow or next month....
[05:12] <yaaar> is there a command i can run or somewhere i can look to find out what type of memory my system uses? the chipset (intel 845) can support both sdram and ddr, but i don't know which this board has
[05:12] <unk468> huh I DONT have GNOME
[05:12] <unk468> :)
[05:12] <LiteHedded> SAMBA HELP PLEASE!
[05:12] <wastrel> unk468:  then  man interfaces  and configure  /etc/network/interfaces
[05:12] <IdleOne> Laz:  what do you mean does ubuntu support windows vista? side not has windows ever supported opensource?
[05:13] <weareallone> if i can just find a good media player on here...
[05:13] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: ifconfig eth0 <IP> :P or man ifconfig
[05:13] <LiteHedded> sorry for caps :)
[05:13] <kookaburra> what's the point of getting an expensive mac only to get of X?
[05:13] <jbmagic> any of you guys planning to ge tthe new macbook pro?
[05:13] <unk468> oky..
[05:13] <Peteresque> does ubuntu support my mac's airport card and bluetooth?
[05:13] <kookaburra> get rid of even
[05:13] <Jeffrae> not
[05:13] <Jeffrae> I5 <> Imac g5
[05:13] <Jeffrae> I5 is an IBM machine
[05:13] <Bmur> jbmagic: maybe this summer.  ...I still love my iBook.
[05:13] <Laz> Will Ubuntu make coffee for me?
[05:13] <yaaar> unk468: you'll probably also need to do 'route add -net default gw <gw ip>' after the ifconfig command to set your default route
[05:13] <dabaR> Peteresque: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/AirportExtreme
[05:14] <LiteHedded> please help
[05:14] <IdleOne> Jeffrae:  sorry
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[05:14] <yaaar> unk468: and in any case, that'll only do it for one boot...
[05:14] <Jeffrae> is cool
[05:14] <crimsun> weareallone: you don't need to reboot. Those two steps were to ensure that audio functions correctly on subsequent boots.
[05:14] <LiteHedded> can't install my windoes shared printer
[05:14] <Jeffrae> iSeries
[05:14] <dabaR> Peteresque: bluetooth works, afaik. dunno about whether all devices are supported.
[05:14] <intelikey> laz if you hook it to a firecracker device, yes sir.
[05:14] <weareallone> not sure if all problems are solved with sound yet
[05:14] <hatake_kakashi> LiteHedded: are you trying to print a file from Ubuntu to window's shared printer?
[05:14] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  system > administration > printing  didn't work?
[05:14] <Jeffrae> the i5 does use a PowerPC Proc though..
[05:14] <_smd_> So no one else is having issues with looking at user info in gaim?
[05:15] <dabaR> LiteHedded: did you read the wiki page?
[05:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: thanks, can you help me with something
[05:15] <LiteHedded> no it didn't work
[05:15] <intelikey> CanYouHelpMePlz ask.
[05:15] <LiteHedded> yea I read it
[05:15] <kookaburra> will ubuntu interoperate with my dead cats' soul?
[05:15] <LiteHedded> I've followed the instructions from !samba
[05:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: hmm it might be working one sec.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> windows/service pack 2 - has their annoying firewall that often blocks access to the shares.
[05:15] <jbmagic> how you like ubuntu compare to a mac?
[05:15] <IdleOne> kookaburra:  only if the cat is/was black
[05:16] <intelikey> LiteHedded that's off topic
[05:16] <hatake_kakashi> Dr_Willis: aka ICF :)
[05:16] <LiteHedded> what's off topic?
[05:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> intelikey: hmm yea it's working
[05:16] <dabaR> LiteHedded: http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch10.html
[05:16] <zeta> if i upgrade ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.04, should i expect lots of brokeness?
[05:16] <intelikey> !offtopic
[05:16] <ubotu> offtopic is, like, Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:16] <hatake_kakashi> zeta: probably yes
[05:17] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[05:17] <ubotu> intelikey: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:17] <LiteHedded> k guess no one in here has expierience with samba
[05:17] <_jason> !offtopic =~ s/maybe/may be/
[05:17] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[05:17] <spikebike> firefox + flash audio broke for me
[05:17] <Laz> Does dapper 6.05 stop anal leakage?
[05:17] <Peteresque> how to setup my bluetooth in my MacMini???
[05:17] <zeta> hatake_kakashi, any way to reverse this process?
[05:17] <disasm> LiteHedded: whats the issue
[05:17] <Bmur> jbmagic: Umm, there is no replacement for Mac in my life now.  I use Ubuntu for my brother and sister.  ...and I have a ubuntu machine at work.
[05:17] <Mordof> little help! where is the good nvidia driver install guide, the one with 3 methods to use.. ubotu doesn't have it
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> zeta,  dapper is  in testing. :P i advise you dont mess with it yet.
[05:17] <unk468> and i have a BIG problem also if you really know how to solve it please answer me. I did installed by mistake grub in /dev/hda4 it`s my 100 G partition with music and it`s NTFS... it didn`t gived any error at install, i corected the error booted in ubuntoo, rebooted in win2k but i can`t see the partition now.. it see d: as filsystem unknown.(pqmagic see it as ntfs but the label is "m?m" I can`t format it
[05:17] <zeta> i have all sorts of fun things like missing icons and broken cursors
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Laz: no, it causes it
[05:17] <LiteHedded> can't install smb printer or view network shares disasm
[05:17] <hatake_kakashi> zeta: not really
[05:17] <kookaburra> it does if you cram the cd in the right places Laz
[05:17] <yaaar> Laz: i'd see your doctor about that leakage...
[05:17] <zeta> can i expect to eventually work? =)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> LiteHedded,  that sounds exactly like MS's firewall.
[05:18] <unk468> and I don`t wish to format it
[05:18] <jbmagic> does ubuntu do a great job in recognizing hardware you have on your pc?
[05:18] <LiteHedded> not running ms firewall
[05:18] <disasm> LiteHedded: view network shares from linux, or share from linux and view in windows?
[05:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jbmagic: yes it does, better then windows in alot of cases
[05:18] <kookaburra> jbmagic, it does a great job.
[05:18] <Mordof> unk468: you probably will have to, that really screws up things big time
[05:18] <hatake_kakashi> zeta: upon the full release, yes
[05:18] <LiteHedded> from linux
[05:18] <jbmagic> awesome
[05:18] <zeta> i can live with the brokeness until then
[05:18] <zeta> thanks, hatake_kakashi
[05:18] <LiteHedded> my windows printer is shared and I want to install it in ubuntu
[05:18] <hatake_kakashi> zeta: np
[05:18] <jbmagic> how long has ubuntu been out... its so popular now
[05:19] <bimberi> !xpprint
[05:19] <kookaburra> couple of years
[05:19] <ubotu> Printing from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[05:19] <Mordof> cooldaddydoof: you there?
[05:19] <Peteresque> how to setup my bluetooth in my MacMini???
[05:19] <dabaR> bimberi: dio you use ubotu's search?
[05:19] <Bmur> jbmagic: I'll say this, Ubuntu does alot better dealing with my wireless card than XP.
[05:20] <unk468> ok but now i have 80 G music there and i can`t acces it because from my typing mistake in ubunt00 setup. now how about the root account is dangerous ?...
[05:20] <unk468> if the setup mount my ntfs partitin in RW ?
[05:20] <bimberi> dabaR: no, i knew about the wiki pages and set up the factoid :)
[05:20] <jbmagic> bmur that awesome i cant wait to use ubuntu.
[05:20] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: you cannot setup linux to have full support of NTFS
[05:20] <bosco> ping google.com
[05:21] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: unless if you want to try captive NTFS and/or trialing to lose your data, then by all means go ahead
[05:21] <unk468> but y can setup linux to DONT WRITE GRUB ON NTFS
[05:21] <asterisk99> anyone here runnning asterisk on ubuntu?????
[05:21] <Bmur> jbmagic: have you tried any other linux distros?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> you can put grub on any of the various mbr's :P
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> on the different drives.
[05:21] <wastrel> there's an asterix package in universe i believe
[05:21] <yaaar> asterisk99: not at the moment....but i had it on here a few months back
[05:21] <jbmagic> bmur did you keep everything on ubuntu when you install the default ubuntu?
[05:21] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: its the same deal vice versa, you cannot put it on NTFS because its not supported
[05:21] <wastrel> hatake_kakashi:  isn't there read only ntfs support
[05:21] <bosco> go to EternalCry.com and set up a user name
[05:21] <gasp> laz
[05:21] <Jeffrae> Anyone running Gnome in ubuntu?
[05:21] <jbmagic> bmur i try gentoo, but it seems kind hard to install
[05:22] <wastrel> hatake_kakashi:  he could rescue data & reformat maybe?
[05:22] <yaaar> Jeffrae: nope.....nobody
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Jeffrae,  most people are. :P
[05:22] <Laz> gasp
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> wastrel: read the question, unk468 wants rw support for ntfs
[05:22] <Jeffrae> hahaha
[05:22] <_jason> Jeffrae: probably a lot of people
[05:22] <zeta> Jeffrae, ubuntu runs gnome by default =P
[05:22] <nbjayme> will anybody please help me on how to record online radio...
[05:22] <gasp> msg me
[05:22] <intelikey> Jeffrae first time on ubuntu eeh ?
[05:22] <Jeffrae> I was kidding
[05:22] <Peteresque> Laz:any site about how to setup my bluetooth in my MacMini???
[05:22] <Bmur> jbmagic: I didn't really get rid of anything from the standard install
[05:22] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: there is only read support for NTFS not write
[05:22] <Jeffrae> I was always a KDE guy.. Ubuntu made me into a Gnome guy
[05:22] <unk468> y didn`t undestood I REALY INSTALLED GRUB IN MY NTFS /dev/hda4 by mistake , at ubuntoo setup !
[05:22] <Bmur> jbmagic: I added a few programs
[05:22] <Jeffrae> KDE was always faster on mandrake systems in my experiance
[05:22] <_jason> nbjayme: use mplayer -dumpstream
[05:22] <Laz> Peteresque: check the forums
[05:23] <jbmagic> bmur so kinda new to linux.  just hope ubuntu will be easy to learn.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> unk468,  so?
[05:23] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: you meant on the MBR :P
[05:23] <unk468> and now windows dosen`t know the filesystem of hda4
[05:23] <unk468> grr
[05:23] <unk468> so
[05:23] <Peteresque> Laz:does Ubuntu support Mp2 sound format?
[05:23] <Bmur> jbmagic: Ubuntu makes installing apps pretty simple from repositories
[05:23] <Peteresque> Laz:does Ubuntu support Mp3 sound format?
[05:23] <unk468> i have data there witch i need
[05:23] <jbmagic> bmur what kind of things you do on your ubuntu system?
[05:23] <IdleOne> Peteresque:  yes and yes
[05:23] <wastrel> unk468:  there is read-only ntfs support for linux, copy off your data and then reformat the partition
[05:23] <nbjayme> _jason anyway of using sox?
[05:23] <intelikey> Jeffrae speed was never a real issue to me, i guess i'm what you might classify as a 'control freek' so kde is still my choice....
[05:23] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: like I said, only read support not write
[05:23] <Laz> Peteresque: Yes and even Mp1
[05:23] <yaaar> Peteresque: go to the wiki page on RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <Jeffrae> so you use kbuntu?
[05:24] <_jason> nbjayme: don't know what sox is
[05:24] <Bmur> jbmagic: read the article on adding universe and multiverse repositories
[05:24] <intelikey> Jeffrae no
[05:24] <unk468> what is matter with these guys ?...
[05:24] <jbmagic> bmur you have direct link thanks
[05:24] <nbjayme> _jason, will mplayer allow one to listen while recording?
[05:24] <_jason> nbjayme: yes
[05:24] <Peteresque> Laz:but yesterday i try 2 play my Mp3 sonngs with the player it sayz it doesn't support
[05:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell Peteresque about mp3
[05:25] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: you *cannot* write any data to NTFS, simple as that
[05:25] <IdleOne> !tell Peteresque  about restrictedformats
[05:25] <rizz> Hello
[05:25] <sinblox> How can I use DVDs on Ubuntu? I can't figure out what I need to download.
[05:25] <wastrel> hi
[05:25] <IdleOne> Peteresque:  read the msg ubotu  sent you
[05:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell sinblox about dvd
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> sinblox,  i use 'k3b'
[05:25] <jbmagic> so hardrive has to be fat 32 for ubuntu?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> sinblox,  to burn them :P
[05:25] <Peteresque> okok
[05:25] <mesaboogie1> !tell mesaboogie1 about winter-gtk
[05:25] <Bmur> jbmagic: At home, my brother and sister and I use it for wireless internet, openoffice, music playback, etc.  At work I use it for some of the same things and a little email with Evolution.
[05:25] <Jeffrae> you run kde on ubuntu itelikey?
[05:25] <JRlinux> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410460  says that the new Dapper Drake will drive the wireless Broadcom 4318.  Would that include dapper-install-amd64.iso and dapper-live-i386.iso (615MB)
[05:25] <dabaR> Dr_Willis: good choice.
[05:26] <sinblox> Thanks guys
[05:26] <rizz> I am looking for an ap to print DVD covers
[05:26] <Laz> Oh n0es my computerz st0l3d my m3gahurtz
[05:26] <yaaar> is there a command i can run or somewhere i can look to find out what type of memory my system uses? the chipset (intel 845) can support both sdram and ddr, but i don't know which this board has
[05:26] <nbjayme> _jason, ok ill try mplayer. i hope recording radio will be incorporated on totem soon. just too many multimedia to download on my ubuntu seems to be too confusing.
[05:26] <Peteresque> Thx jason
[05:26] <intelikey> i have Jeffrae,  this system doesn't have x tho
[05:26] <unk468> i booted the ubuntoo cd, started like "server" , the setup script asked me questions about partition table , swap etc. at the GRUB install i didn input /dev/hda5 (reiserFS) instead of /dev/hda4 (ntfs) and now windows dosen`t see the D: (hda5)
[05:26] <Jeffrae> using the console?
[05:26] <_jason> nbjayme: mplayer is awesome, I use it for everything
[05:26] <biovore> yaaar: Look at the ram chips.. SD ram has 3 notches.. DDR only has 1
[05:27] <Laz> nbjayme: just open your computer up
[05:27] <biovore> (2 notich for SDRAM)
[05:27] <intelikey> Jeffrae yes.    but never installed kubuntu  just kde on ubuntu
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: windows cannot see any other filesystems apart from FAT32 and NTFS
[05:27] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:27] <alex2456> can anyone help me, i just updated my comp from the package manager and gnome does not come up when i boot, its only a terminal
[05:27] <CoffeeIV> How do I get emacs on ubuntu ?
[05:27] <dabaR> rizz: "sudo aptitude search cover"
[05:27] <biovore> hatake_kakashi: there is a hack for windows for ext3 read/write support
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install emacs
[05:27] <Peteresque> _jason Thx
[05:27] <alex2456> it also downloaded the new kernal
[05:27] <bjv> biovore: i think there is
[05:27] <dabaR> rizz: or use synaptic
[05:27] <rizz> Looking for a gui ap to print dvd covers or could use photo printing applacation
[05:27] <unk468> ok but it is an NTFS partition (with grub on it)
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> biovore: I was about to get around to that, but default windows install does *not*
[05:27] <_jason> Peteresque: np
[05:27] <nbjayme> _jason : the documentation of sox kinda says that it can capture raw data sent to /dev/dsp but i cannot make my brain to make it work. :D
[05:27] <intelikey> CoffeeIV sudo apt-get install xemacs
[05:27] <jbmagic> bmur that cool. i probably make the 2nd cpu and put it in my room for UBUNTU.   if main cpu is my pc, i have dsl modem..if i get a wireless router and wireless card for Ubuntu will it work and share my dsl
[05:27] <ssstormy> does anyone have an idea as to why amule dies when I feed it a e2k:// link?
[05:27] <Hawaii101> why does this channel ban tor users ?
[05:28] <mesaboogie1> yaaar:  what does ps -A say?
[05:28] <disasm> _jason: mplayers even better with a frontend like freevo so you can be lazy and use an ir remote to control the music :-D
[05:28] <yaaar> biovore: i can't really see in there as it is, and i don't want to turn it off and pop the stick out, as mythtv is recording adult swim. also, i'd like to know whether it's ddr 200 vs. 266, etc
[05:28] <biovore> hatake_kakashi: no.. its MS.. of course not..
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/  - read ext2/3 under windows.
[05:28] <ssstormy> or edk://, whichever it was
[05:28] <christopher_> whats the rename command in terminal to rename a file?
[05:28] <bimberi> CoffeeIV: actually the package is emacs21
[05:28] <Laz> does apt-get print money work?
[05:28] <_jason> nbjayme: ah then I suppose you could use that as well, however I have no experience with it :P
[05:28] <yaaar> mesaboogie1:   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[05:28] <ssstormy> christopher_, mv file newfile
[05:28] <yaaar> 18239 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[05:28] <yaaar> mesaboogie1: woops
[05:28] <weareallone> crimsun: i get this msg when i try to play something on totem- There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins... so far no other player works either ...rythmbox says mp3 is not streaming music
[05:28] <_jason> disasm: ha, yeah sounds good
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> christopher_,  'mv'  - time to fimnd/read a few bash tutorials. :P
[05:28] <mesaboogie1> yaaar:  whoops what?
[05:28] <Jeffrae> yaar I take it you use lirc with ubuntu?
[05:28] <christopher_> oh i know the mv command
[05:28] <crimsun> weareallone: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher_ about cli
[05:28] <christopher_> i didnt know that could be used the same way
[05:28] <ssstormy> weareallone, make sure to install all the gstreamer packages
[05:29] <intelikey> Hawaii101 because of all the trubble that tor user have caused in the past ?
[05:29] <crimsun> !tell weareallone about restricted
[05:29] <nbjayme> _jason: gtg. thanks for the inputs.
[05:29] <monzie> ho do i non -destructively partition my fs?
[05:29] <CoffeeIV> apt-get install emacs21 worked . . . why isn't that in the gui installer thing ?
[05:29] <ssstormy> weareallone, and do gst-register-0.8
[05:29] <mesaboogie1> lol
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: so what? that doesn't mean that your NTFS is guarenteed to work, nor is it that you are going to get write support on linux.. it does not matter which distro, etc you choose. NTFS is propriatory and microsoft likes to keep thing secret, like what thety have been doing for the last 20 odd years. Blame Microsoft
[05:29] <bjv> i need to put all of my drives on ide0 onto ide1, in order to troubleshoot the controller.  changing all hda to hdc & all hdb to hdd in 1) /etc/fstab and 2) /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:29] <monzie> ut has ext3 fs on it , and i want to carve out 10 gigs for FBSD
[05:29] <yaaar> mesaboogie1: i did -a not -A ....but the output of -A is long but doesn't seem relevant....am i looking for something in particular?
[05:29] <bjv> if i restart
[05:29] <bjv> will there be any other problems?
[05:29] <crimsun> Hawaii101: it didn't after we removed it. Apparently chanserv has reinforced it.
[05:29] <bjv> i think those 2 things will cover everything, when i make the switch
[05:29] <dabaR> hatake_kakashi: no, blame canada.
[05:29] <biovore> hehe
[05:29] <Toma-> yaaar, theres not really a way to find out that info... theres a sticker on the side of most ram modules that tells u what it is?
[05:29] <ssstormy> Jeffrae, "Jeffrae: yaar I take it you use lirc " ... sounds like you a pirate!  >-D
[05:29] <hatake_kakashi> dabaR: I don't see how Canada sees fit :p
[05:30] <Hawaii101> crimsun: wierd cause I can login to other channels while tores
[05:30] <Hawaii101> crimsun: wierd cause I can login to other channels while tored
[05:30] <yaaar> Jeffrae: no, i've not setup the remote yet. not sure i will...the machine is in a fairly small room anyway
[05:30] <intelikey> monzie ?  non-destructively partition ?     like resize an existing partition ?
[05:30] <weareallone> gst-regiter-0.8 on terminal?
[05:30] <Hawaii101> no big deal just wondering
[05:30] <ssstormy> bjv sounds ike you got it covered
[05:30] <monzie> yes intelikey
[05:30] <ssstormy> weareallone, after you install the packages
[05:30] <crimsun> Hawaii101: like I said, chanserv reinforced it. I've removed it.
[05:30] <bjv> ssstormy: i was pretty sure.
[05:30] <ssstormy> weareallone, it adds all the packages to the list of avalible codecs
[05:30] <weareallone> is this for most packages as well?
[05:30] <unk468> hatake_kakashi I know that but , don`t you belive that next seup will bee mutch better if WON`T let stupid users like me to install grub only in reiserFS ext3 etc not on ntfs?
[05:30] <ssstormy> weareallone, or you can save time and isntall totem-xine
[05:31] <intelikey> parted monzie   or gparted
[05:31] <bjv> anyone else see a hole in my plan?
[05:31] <yaaar> Toma-: current visibility inside the case is extremely limited
[05:31] <bjv> id rather not get boned with a system that wont boot. :\
[05:31] <Toma-> yaaar, doh :(
[05:31] <unk468> i was refering to next install script...
[05:31] <weareallone> from packages?
[05:31] <Laz> yaaar:  get a flashlight
[05:31] <ssstormy> bjv, if it dosn't work just stick in a floppy and undo
[05:31] <bjv> and have to dig up a boot disk
[05:31] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: that's to do with debian installer not ubuntu
[05:31] <Toma-> yaaar, only other place i could think, is thru memtest, but that needs a reboot
[05:31] <yaaar> Laz: not a light issue....cable obstructions primarily
[05:31] <bjv> yeah
[05:31] <Bmur> jbmagic: it should do that just fine.  As long as you get a wireless card that is detected automatically.
[05:31] <yaaar> Toma-: yeah
[05:31] <bjv> id have to find a floppy drive :P
[05:31] <weareallone> ssstormy: in packages, this xine?
[05:32] <Laz> yaaar: move the cables aside :P
[05:32] <bjv> and a disk :P
[05:32] <bjv> (id just use an ubuntu live disk)
[05:32] <epp> hey my ubuntu wont boot unless it has grabbed the time from the internet, because its defaultly set to 1901. how can i change the default?
[05:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wil running a bin in sudo mode fix errors that it gets not being able to make dirs?
[05:32] <ssstormy> weareallone, well you can use xine, but if you want to stick with totem use totem-xine (totem-xine uses the xine-lib instead of gstreamer)
[05:32] <jbmagic> bmur what you recommend for a router and wireless card..
[05:32] <Toma-> epp, quit living in the past! :D
[05:32] <dabaR> CanYouHelpMePlz: probably.
[05:32] <disasm> epp: go into bios and adjust it
[05:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dabaR: cool thanks
[05:32] <unk468> well i did downloaded a ubuntoo .iso not a deb.iso the guys from debian say ubuntoo isn`t debian so... the developers shoud fix the problem , because i might lost about 80 G of info now.
[05:32] <biovore> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo is god mode on linux..  you can do anything,.. include get hacked
[05:32] <ssstormy> weareallone, xine is like a dvd kinda player feel while totem is more of a multipurpose player feel
[05:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> biovore: god mode lol
[05:32] <ssstormy> at least for me
[05:32] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: and also, one should be aware of the fact that Microsoft keeps its secrets like KFC with their so called 'receipes'. Can't blame OSS just because you had their product installed on something that is part of Microsoft
[05:33] <Toma-> epp, you want to stop getting the time at boot?
[05:33] <epp> diasm, im on a mac.
[05:33] <Jeffrae> KFC?
[05:33] <yaaar> Laz: not long enough; it's a sony box, with small board and stuff's really packed in. trust me, the visual inspection will have to wait until midnight, when the recording for today is over...
[05:33] <wastrel> unk468:  file a bug, maybe they will change the installer
[05:33] <Bmur> jbmagic: you wanna talk in a different window?
[05:33] <Toma-> biovore, i thought it was idqdd? :D
[05:33] <Jeffrae> Inverted KFC Bucket and White Mask?
[05:33] <hatake_kakashi> unk468: the problem is, its not that.. do you think that ubuntu has its own installer? it looks very very similar to that of debians
[05:33] <rizz> Ok looking for a GUI app to print dvd covers, one to print photos might work plz PM me with ideas
[05:33] <intelikey> bjv only other problem i see is that if there is a disk on ide0 you will be looking for a boot disk....   if there is no dirve on ide0 you are in like flin
[05:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toma-: or idpispopd
[05:33] <disasm> epp: hmmm, so you can't boot into ubuntu because hw clock is set wrong... makes it difficult...
[05:33] <yaaar> Laz: not that that's the end of the world....it would of course be that long before i could plug in another stick...
[05:33] <Toma-> haha
[05:33] <unk468> ah i don`t wish to blame of to start a flame here, i just wish my problem solved. i`ll get out from here for now bye
[05:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toma-: idspispopd*
[05:33] <biovore> Toma-: need idifa for some real fun
[05:33] <epp> Toma, can i mabey set it so always read 2006?
[05:34] <Toma-> idkfa = ftw :)
[05:34] <epp> disasm, yes i know.
[05:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toma-: haha
[05:34] <biovore> Toma-: yes thats it
[05:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toma-: "their is no cow level"
[05:34] <epp> kde boots...
[05:34] <dabaR> rizz: I told you how to find.
[05:34] <biovore> CanYouHelpMePlz: someone wrote one though :-P
[05:34] <Laz> In windows we have a thing called sandra and it would tell you what memory type you have but i dont know in linux
[05:34] <dougemd> can anyone help with getting dvd playback to work. I'm following at how-to online. I set up the extra repositories like it said. But when I tried to add libdvdcss2 I get an error.
[05:34] <epp> then i can go into gnome after i have booted jde
[05:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> biovore: lol blizzard did.
[05:34] <Toma-> epp, oh, so your bios clock keep reseting?
[05:34] <dougemd> its says it doesn't exist
[05:34] <epp> kde*
[05:34] <rizz> sorry missed it
[05:34] <biovore> dougemd: memtest86
[05:34] <hatake_kakashi> Laz: write your own program for it, stop whinging about what you get in windows
[05:34] <ssstormy> dougemd, did you refresh the repos?
[05:35] <epp> Toma-, i dont know how to change it on a mac.
[05:35] <ssstormy> dougemd, apt-get update
[05:35] <Toma-> epp, i see.
[05:35] <Toma-> epp, neither do i :|
[05:35] <Laz> hatake_kakashi: im not whinning :P im just telling yaaar
[05:35] <phillipc> how do I find the name of the shared library that someone has? e.g. libgdk-x11-2.0 is the general lib, and they may have libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1; how do I get that name?
[05:35] <tsipper> what's the apt-get command to download gnutella?
[05:35] <dabaR> rizz: use synaptic, and search for cover. or "aptitude search cover" in the terminal
[05:35] <phillipc> tsipper: apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[05:35] <wastrel> tsipper:  apt-cache search gnutella
[05:35] <tsipper> thanks
[05:36] <dabaR> hatake_kakashi: it's OK.
[05:36] <rizz> THANK YOU
[05:36] <Lao> hello folks
[05:36] <IdleOne> mmmm gnutella is good on toast ()
[05:36] <Bmur> jbmagic: you there?
[05:36] <wastrel> phillipc:  they'll never learn if you hold their hand
[05:36] <phillipc> wastrel: sorry
[05:36] <hatake_kakashi> Laz: you ramble on about windows and linux like as if they were two matched OS
[05:36] <epp> Toma-, can i set a script in a startup file that changes the time to newer default?
[05:36] <wastrel> phillipc:  :]  i'm just grumpy tonite
[05:36] <dougemd> ssstormy, yes I did
[05:36] <Lao> is their anyone who has time to help someone new to Linux with a problem with ndiswrapper?
[05:36] <dougemd> biovore, what does memtest86 do?
[05:37] <jbmagic> bmur i message you
[05:37] <jbmagic> check your message
[05:37] <biovore> checks your memory
[05:37] <hatake_kakashi> dougemd: mem tester
[05:37] <tsipper> I am new to this program, is their a website that I can go that lists all available programs for download?
[05:37] <dougemd> hatake_kakashi, how would that help with dvd play back?
[05:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> tsipper: it's an operating system :-)
[05:37] <hatake_kakashi> tsipper: synaptic
[05:37] <biovore> dougemd: or write your own little program to do some operations and time how long it takes..
[05:37] <bimberi> tsipper: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:37] <tga1> hey, what's a fancy tool for making presentations other than ooimpress?
[05:38] <axisys> hey all.. i a keep getting the following two lines in dmesg
[05:38] <axisys> [4384384.260000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[05:38] <axisys> [4384384.357000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:38] <tga1> maybe something more flashish, based on animation
[05:38] <biovore> tga1: I think there is one with the koffice packages
[05:38] <hatake_kakashi> dougemd: *shrug* I don't know, you asked about memtest86. I assume faulty RAM can effect certain parts of the OS, etc
[05:38] <axisys> sorry pastebin.com is not loading
[05:38] <Bmur> jbmagic: hmm, I dunno I tried sending a message to you too
[05:38] <tga1> biovore, other than kpresenter too
[05:38] <ssstormy> dougemd, try another tutorial?
[05:38] <Hawaii101> tga1: crossover-office and PowerPoint 2003 :)
[05:38] <jbmagic> bmur what you using to chat?
[05:38] <epp> can anyone help out with my time problem?
[05:38] <dougemd> ssstormy, I just can't understand why I can't get libdvdcss2 installed
[05:39] <hatake_kakashi> Bmur: you have to be registered to pm registered users
[05:39] <Lao> does anyone know about wireless networking using a broadcom wireless card?
[05:39] <ssstormy> dougemd, what's the error?
[05:39] <dougemd> ssstormy, I get Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:39] <dougemd> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:39] <dougemd> is only available from another source
[05:39] <intelikey> epp time problem ?   describe ?
[05:39] <Bmur> jbmagic, my irc client
[05:39] <ssstormy> dougemd, open up synaptic
[05:39] <Laz> hatake_kakashi: sorry i forgot windows is ahead of linux
[05:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell dougemd about dvd
[05:39] <tga1> Hawaii101, right
[05:39] <wastrel> !broadcom
[05:39] <ubotu> hmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[05:39] <jbmagic> bnur using mirc here
[05:40] <hatake_kakashi> Laz: yes windows is ahead in terms of eye-candy UI and that you pay big money for it
[05:40] <Bmur> jbmagic: ok, apparently we have to be registered members to chat like that
[05:40] <tga1> any nice 2d animation tool for Linux?
[05:40] <ssstormy> dougemd, or use apt-get install libdvdread3
[05:40] <ssstormy> dougemd, that's the package i have
[05:40] <IdleOne> Bmur:  jbmagic  you need to register with nickserv /msg nickserv help
[05:40] <Laz> hatake_kakashi: if you pay your dumb :P
[05:40] <Bmur> jbmagic: I'll just talk fast
[05:40] <biovore> www.kde-look.org is good for eye candy
[05:40] <Hawaii101> tga1: you can use gimp to create animated gifs :)
[05:40] <kijun> hi
[05:40] <biovore> www.gnome-look.org I think too
[05:40] <tga1> Hawaii101, any other bright ideas?
[05:40] <jbmagic> bmur ok
[05:40] <kijun> yes... I love "gnome-look.org"
[05:41] <Hawaii101> a few ....
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> Laz: if you don't pay, you fall under piracy, and if you get caught? don't blame on me. I like how linux was and how it will be.. something that windows can never compare to 'bang-for-your-buck'. So if you desire to choose an OS that does not comply with RASIS/POSIX compliance. Then by all means, go right ahead
[05:41] <dougemd> ssstormy, says I already have the latest
[05:41] <Hawaii101> hatake_kakashi: have you seen the compiz videos
[05:41] <ssstormy> then you're good to go
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> Hawaii101: no
[05:41] <ssstormy> oh wait, not yet
[05:41] <dougemd> ssstormy, version of libdvdread3....what dvd player are you using?
[05:42] <ssstormy> dougemd, there's a script that libdvdread3 isntalls, that you have to run
[05:42] <Hawaii101> hatake_kakashi: INCREDIBLY cool UI
[05:42] <epp> intelikey, my crappy mac wont boot linux because the time defaults to 1901. gnome doesnt like it, so it only boots if im connected to the net where it can grab the real time.
[05:42] <ssstormy> dougemd, I use xine most of the time
[05:42] <biovore> POSTIX is a must for me!!
[05:42] <monzie> can anyone please tell me how to resize an ext3 partition?
[05:42] <ssstormy> monzie, try gparted
[05:42] <chameleon> any one know any good tutoriles for ubuntu?
[05:42] <ssstormy> monzie, apt-get install gparted
[05:42] <dougemd> ssstormy, can you point me to a how to with libdvdread3 so I don't have to waste your time with you explain to me the details?
[05:42] <ssstormy> chameleon, take a look in the help browser.  theres a icon on the top of the screen
[05:42] <Bmur> jbmagic: I have a cheap $20 (after rebate) dlink router.  ...but I'm actually using a friend's linksys.  My card is a foxconn that I got for $10 on Newegg (during a sale).  It was detected by Ubuntu and has been ok (sometimes it drops signal temporarily though and I'm not sure the cause, not a big deal)
[05:42] <weareallone> ssstormy: do i need to register everything in the terminal, first day on
[05:42] <IdleOne> chameleon:  wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <ssstormy> dougemd, yeah just a min
[05:43] <ssstormy> weareallone, yeh you run the gst-reg from a terminal
[05:43] <ssstormy> weareallone, and incase I spelled it bad type "gst-reg<tab>"
[05:43] <_joey> has anyone installed nfdiswrapper
[05:43] <jbmagic> bmur thanks so much.. that dlinl router is wireless and wired right?
[05:44] <epp> my crappy mac wont boot linux because the time defaults to 1901. gnome doesnt like it, so it only boots if im connected to the net where it can grab the real time.
[05:44] <ssstormy> dougemd, it's ALL here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:44] <dabaR> ssstormy: it is maybe gst0.8-register, do the tab earlier.
[05:44] <kijun> that's interesting
[05:44] <LiteHedded> how do I mount this vcd I just put in?
[05:44] <ssstormy> dabaR, I know it's gst-regsomething
[05:44] <weareallone> that registers any new apps?
[05:44] <ssstormy> weareallone, no it registers your new gst plugins
[05:44] <kijun> I would want to know that how to do it?  does anyone know ?
[05:45] <weareallone> i installed totem-xine, how do use it?
[05:45] <Bmur> jbmagic: Oh, the dlink works fine as well though...  This is the website I used for enabling the repositories.  Some of the repositories are disabled by default, this tells you how to enable them.  It gives you access to alot of other programs such as the VLC media player.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:45] <kijun> vcd... case.... try /media directory
[05:45] <chameleon> i take it ubuntu does not come with Wine
[05:45] <sinaduel> newbie question, how do I play MP3's?
[05:45] <LiteHedded> kijun how do I mount it?
[05:45] <robotgeek> sinaduel, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:45] <jbmagic> Bmur thanks so much
[05:45] <kijun> wine... I don't think so (but not sure)
[05:46] <kijun> however, you can get it
[05:46] <Eleaf> ubotu, tell sinaduel about restrictedformats
[05:46] <intelikey> epp there are two scripts in the /etc/init.d/   both dealing with "hwclock*"   i sujest you remove the symlinks in /etc/rcS.d/  that point to these two scripts and add a script or a line in the bootmisc script that sets the clock to some default like this present time.    that should allow you to boot and start gnome.    then you can use  ntpdate to sync you clock with the network as needed.      if you need help with any o
[05:46] <kijun> system >> administator >> Synatic
[05:46] <jbmagic> Bmur does that router to wired and wireless right?  i just want my main window xp connected by wired to router and ubuntu system wireless with wireless card
[05:46] <kijun> then you can anything you want
[05:47] <mordof> ack! ok so im in dapper right? and my X wont start, i just tried to install the nvidia drivers.... i need help :S
[05:47] <Eleaf> eeek
[05:47] <epp> intelkey, i will try to understand what you just said.
[05:47] <slide> A recent upgrade to the wine package made a program not work anymore so i need to downgrade it, how would i go about that?
[05:47] <Bmur> jbmagic: yeah I believe so, that should work fine. The Ubuntu has some pretty good documentation if I remember correctly.  If your ever going to use dial-up, use an external modem.
[05:47] <jbmagic> Bmur i have dsl modem
[05:48] <a2xm> hi.. why I cannot setting up SWAT? I thought I did configure it.
[05:48] <jbmagic> Bmur what is repositories mean>?
[05:49] <kijun> hi
[05:49] <kijun> is anyone here?
[05:49] <jaypee_> where is smeg config at?
[05:49] <jaypee_> i want to delete an item from menu
[05:49] <intelikey> epp  man hwclock    should help you
[05:50] <armenb> what's the default root password?
[05:50] <odla> hi
[05:50] <dabaR> !root
[05:50] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:50] <odla> what's the command for running the installer from the flight 4 cd?
[05:50] <Bmur> jbmagic: I just want to help you out with some things that took me a little time.  Ok ok.  Repositories are basically where these packages are stored on the internet I guess.  So if you go to the add software program you can select a program to add and it will go out and grab the packages and install it for you.
[05:50] <odla> the flight 4 livecd?
[05:50] <kijun> there is no default root password
[05:50] <intelikey> the defauld root password is the null string
[05:51] <jbmagic> bmur oh i see thanks. why by default they block that?
[05:51] <Bmur> jbmagic:  the more repositories that are enabled, the more programs you can access through the program manager app.
[05:51] <intelikey> jbmagic cause they can ?
[05:51] <odla> espresso maybe?
[05:51] <kijun> however you can make it (root password) from... the menu system >> admin >> usrs and groups
[05:51] <IdleOne> whats the command to change a filename?
[05:51] <jbmagic> lol
[05:51] <Xenguy> IdleOne: mv
[05:52] <IdleOne> Xenguy:  mv?
[05:52] <kijun> mv
[05:52] <Xenguy> IdleOne: man mv
[05:52] <kijun> yes, it is mv
[05:52] <intelikey> mv = move
[05:52] <IdleOne> I dont want to move it
[05:52] <kijun> no no no
[05:52] <intelikey> yes you do
[05:52] <IdleOne> I want to rename it
[05:52] <kijun> think about it
[05:52] <Xenguy> IdleOne: man mv
[05:52] <IdleOne> okie
[05:52] <Bmur> jbmagic: I often wondered this same question.  Linux people tend to do a lot of things that don't make sense to the average user.
[05:52] <robotgeek> IdleOne: yes, you rename by moving :)
[05:52] <IdleOne> ()
[05:52] <_joey> how do I use wildcard to remove package using dpkg ?
[05:52] <kijun> mv means actually same as rename
[05:52] <kijun> mv it to the other name...
[05:52] <kijun> you got it???
[05:52] <jbmagic> bmur what the command to get programs and the command to remove programs completly?
[05:53] <dabaR> IdleOne: to rename a file, you move it to another file. to delete something, you replace that something with nothing.
[05:53] <intelikey> -joey very carefully, unless you are read to reload your system anyway.....
[05:53] <Xenguy> jbmagic: apt-get update && apt-get isntall programname
[05:53] <Bmur> jbmagic:  I think they just enabled the repositories that they thought people would need the most.
[05:53] <Xenguy> apt-get remove programname
[05:53] <Xenguy> jbmagic: man apt-get :-)
[05:53] <wastrel> Bmur:  they enabled the repositories with free open source software
[05:54] <intelikey> with --purge   if you want to remove any configs it may have
[05:54] <dougemd> can anyone help with what is probably a permissions error with dvd playback?
[05:54] <wastrel> Bmur:  universe & multiverse have less open licenses
[05:54] <Bmur> jbmagic: yeah, apt-get install (application name)
[05:54] <jbmagic> thanks
[05:54] <weareallone> thx evry1
[05:54] <dougemd> I can't play a movie through the totem player...the disc is automounted but seems to not be able to read from the first sector
[05:54] <Bmur> wastrel: I see...  That makes sense.
[05:55] <wastrel> Bmur:  sorry, multiverse is non-free universe is "community maintained"
[05:55] <intelikey> jbmagic no one else seems to have mentioned it,   only root can add or remove packages.... use sudo
[05:55] <IdleOne> how do I escape back to a promtp?
[05:55] <Xenguy> q  ?
[05:55] <IdleOne> thank you
[05:55] <wastrel> IdleOne:  from X?
[05:55] <dougemd> does my user account have to be in a certain group for dvd playback to work?
[05:55] <wastrel> ah from man
[05:55] <Xenguy> wastrel: man
[05:55] <jbmagic> it best to use the terminal on ubuntu right
[05:55] <IdleOne> sometimes the most obvious things are the furthest from being seen
[05:55] <intelikey> [ctrl]  C   to kill things    [ctrl]  Z to  suspend them....
[05:55] <Xenguy> jbmagic: there is no best; there is just most efficient ;-)
[05:56] <jbmagic> Xenguy thanks
[05:56] <Xenguy> jbmagic: yw
[05:56] <Lao> it's not suprising that linux as so few people to it, when its so confucing for the adverage end user
[05:56] <brad_teenbot> hey everyone, i have windows and linux on my computer all in grub and was wonderin if i go to redo my windows if it will affects the linux or if linux will be allright if  try to redo it????
[05:56] <jbmagic> linux doesnt seem too bad once you ge tthe hang of it
[05:56] <Xenguy> Lao: Ubuntu gnu/linux has different levels of entry, which is good
[05:56] <tsipper> anybody have a url for gnutella host addresses?
[05:56] <jbmagic> what programs you guys recommend to get?
[05:57] <dabaR> brad_teenbot: it will be affected.
[05:57] <Bmur> wastrel: yeah, i guess I understand where they are coming from.
[05:57] <Lao> yea I got a nice help sheet that relates linux to dos, which I'm very fimiliar with
[05:57] <tga1> any idea how I can make icons smaller in Gnome?
[05:57] <Xenguy> Lao: linux will make dos look like a cripple very shortly ;-)
[05:57] <axisys> hey guys .. what is this mean?
[05:57] <Lao> yea as I've noticed
[05:57] <axisys> atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known
[05:57] <jbmagic> what great about ubuntu..its great for newbies and great for advance user right?
[05:57] <brad_teenbot> oo it will? ok well thanks i just didnt know because im kinda new with the whole linux scence but im trying to learn more about it but i have to keep windows for other reasons
[05:57] <axisys> what keycode do i set it to?
[05:58] <axisys> !setkeycodes
[05:58] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[05:58] <intelikey> leo  ha !    you mean for the avarage user that is familear with windows and therefore thinks they should know everything about *nix as well.....   it's not confusing to one that has never seen windows.   it's probably easier to learn than all that 'point and click crap'
[05:58] <Bmur> jbmagic: VLC is a great media player.  Tons better than what is installed.
[05:58] <dabaR> tga1: the ones on the desktop, or where?
[05:58] <Xenguy> jbmagic: Ubu is built on Debian goodness :-)
[05:58] <Lao> just trying to get all my stuff to work... my modle computer is a linux nightmare... nothing is supported...
[05:58] <Mantice> I just downloaded Ubuntu... and its not good with its parition system :(
[05:58] <Lao> hp 5404us
[05:58] <IdleOne> Lao:  the adjustment period from win to linux is difficult but Im sticking with it and starting to enjoy myself
[05:58] <tga1> dabaR, sorry, I mean toolbar icons
[05:58] <Xenguy> jbmagic: beginner or expert, it doesn't matter, it has it all
[05:58] <jbmagic> nice
[05:59] <dabaR> tga1: well, they are as big as the panel itself is, which can be set if you right click on a panel and select properties.
[05:59] <Bmur> Have any of you been running any builds of Dapper?
[05:59] <Lao> yea, well I have no choice, my school uses it for a predominately large amount of our programs, so since I plan to be able to use it well, linux isn't a bad thing to know
[05:59] <axisys> anyone know how to set keycodes?
[05:59] <brad_teenbot> i was wonderin, im thinking about putting just linux onto my labtob,,, how many megabites are required to be able to put linux on there?
[05:59] <Mantice> can I boot ubuntu off another hard drive
[05:59] <Xenguy> Lao: hardware requires research indeed, but most of the hardware is supported
[05:59] <tga1> dabaR, toolbars, not panels
[05:59] <kookaburra> mantice, you should be able to specify how you want your partitions set up. you don'thave to go with the default
[05:59] <Mantice> i have a 40 gb hard drive here
[05:59] <Xenguy> brad_teenbot: someone earlier said 1.8 Gb
[06:00] <Bmur> permissions can be kinda sucky sometimes
[06:00] <Mantice> I really dont wana mess with them
[06:00] <Mantice> Just incase oops there goes my music :)
[06:00] <jbmagic> kookaburra do i need partion magic to partion by hardrive before i install ubuntu?
[06:00] <Xenguy> Lao: linux is a really good investment in your computer future :-)
[06:00] <kookaburra> if you want to keep windows
[06:00] <brad_teenbot> Xenguy: oh really? ok well thanks alot i really dont know where id be if this chatroom was here to help me lol Thanks
[06:00] <Lao> holy crap I really didn't think I was ever going to get this wireless card to work
[06:01] <Mantice> Do you think id be best to buy a 2 $ ide cable and hook up my 40 gb seagate? and let unbuntu have the whole thing :)
[06:01] <Lao> yea, I'm an electrical engineering major so I figured it isn't a bad idea to learn
[06:01] <dougemd> what is the udf option in the fstab for options?
[06:01] <Xenguy> jbmagic: not necessarily
[06:01] <Mantice> :/
[06:01] <tsipper> anybody have a gnutella host ip address?
[06:01] <Xenguy> jbmagic: what is your setup (or should I just look up-buffer?)
[06:02] <Mantice> Mine?
[06:02] <intelikey> Mantice yes.
[06:02] <kookaburra> if you plan on using linux long term then why not let it take over your hard drive?
[06:02] <Mantice> Thanks Intelikey
[06:02] <Xenguy> heheh
[06:02] <Greves> can i install ubuntu without a CD ?
[06:02] <Greves> i.e. completely network install
[06:02] <jbmagic> xenguy i plan to get a 20gn hardrive and use an old pent 2 sytem for ubuntu.. what size i need my partions and what kind?
[06:02] <Xenguy> Greves: you're the 3rd person today...
[06:02] <Mantice> Every one hates windows but theres just some times when some one needs it
[06:02] <kookaburra> for what?
[06:02] <Xenguy> Greves: look for 'net install'
[06:02] <kookaburra> games?
[06:02] <Mantice> Yeah
[06:02] <Bmur> Why doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the files?
[06:02] <Greves> Xenguy: so what's the answer for the third time? :D
[06:02] <Greves> ok
[06:03] <Xenguy> Mantice: not really (but depends on your business I suppose)
[06:03] <intelikey> Mantice if you can add an hdd for $2   that is always the way to go.    even if there is already 12 hdds in the box.
[06:03] <Mantice> lol :)
[06:03] <intelikey> no joke
[06:03] <Mantice> I have 2 SATA and this will bew ide
[06:03] <athlon> I need to install liboil-0.3.6 in order to test gnome 2.14 beta. Since I use kubuntu breezy and the required liboil package only avilable for dapper, I was wondering if it is okay to upgrade my breezy liboil using the deb file from dapper cvs
[06:03] <jbmagic> so for partitions i need a /swap and /file only?
[06:04] <jbmagic> what size shjould they be
[06:04] <Xenguy> jbmagic: swap and boot/root if yer lazy like me
[06:04] <brad_teenbot> Varsendagger: are you around? i was wonderin what was going on with that labtop????
[06:04] <kookaburra> same here Xenguy
[06:04] <intelikey> you probably don't actually need a /swap   but you must have a  / <--root jbmagic
[06:04] <jbmagic> xenguy will ask me what size when i install it?
[06:04] <Bmur> Why doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the files?
[06:05] <Xenguy> kookaburra: I've been doing that for years; too lazy to figure out the proper way to segment my partitions ;-)
[06:05] <Xenguy> jbmagic: how many Gb?
[06:05] <jbmagic> 20gb
[06:05] <intelikey> jbmagic / must be at least 1.8g for default install of ubuntu 5.10
[06:05] <roostishaw> can someone help me?
[06:05] <Xenguy> jbmagic: no worries for disk space, for sure
[06:05] <Mantice> How can I have a multiboot system that boots OS's Off hard drives
[06:05] <Lao> another quick question is open office compatible with microsoft office? can I write a word doc in open office and then review it in microsoft office?
[06:05] <roostishaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544
[06:05] <jbmagic> so swap should be double memory?
[06:06] <roostishaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544
[06:06] <kookaburra> about that yes jbmagic
[06:06] <intelikey> jbmagic how much mem ?
[06:06] <jbmagic> 128mb
[06:06] <roostishaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544
[06:06] <roostishaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544
[06:06] <roostishaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544
[06:06] <roostishaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=755544#post755544
[06:06] <intelikey> yeah or three times.
[06:06] <Mantice> Dont flood :S
[06:06] <panzer> lose grub what I do??
[06:06] <panzer> lose grub what I do??
[06:06] <Xenguy> Lao: absolutely
[06:06] <Lao> nice
[06:06] <Xenguy> Lao: get OOo v2.x
[06:07] <Xenguy> Lao: it's getting better
[06:07] <dabaR> panzer: lose grub what I do!
[06:07] <Lao> what is open offices version of power point?
[06:07] <jbmagic> intelikey 128mb
[06:07] <Bmur> Anyone....   Why doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the files?
[06:07] <seth_oh`boy> I didn't want to bother people in here, because I knew it would be full, but I just switched to Ubuntu and I can't use sudo or any root access when I installed ubuntu it didn't ask for a root password so I don't know is there a default for ubuntu or something...?
[06:07] <intelikey> yeah or three times. <-- jbmagic
[06:07] <Madpilot> Lao: Impress
[06:07] <Lao> awesome, that will be very helpful =-)
[06:07] <Xenguy> Lao: dunno - OOo uses presentation software called 'Impress' (compatible with PP AFAIK)
[06:07] <jbmagic> intelikey and the rest of the 20gb goes to /root?
[06:08] <dabaR> panzer: what did you do to lose grub?
[06:08] <Mantice> I noticed that Ubuntu is feaken small 650 mb
[06:08] <Mantice> Why!?
[06:08] <seth_oh`boy> Ubuntu is starting to make my brain hurt.
[06:09] <Xenguy> Mantice: that's not a full install AFAIK
[06:09] <panzer> I lose grub as I recover it
[06:09] <Lao> now how do I add more programs I see that open office comes with the build (I installed the DVD version) but I can't tell what version I have or how to update if needed
[06:09] <intelikey> jbmagic if you are intent on dedicating 20g to ubuntu i'd make a /home and put 14g or so there.   possably even make a /var with about 4g
[06:09] <Xenguy> seth_oh`boy: there is always sleeeeeeep :-)
[06:09] <panzer> I lose grub as I recover it
[06:09] <Madpilot> Mantice: the ISO is highly compressed, if that's what you're looking at
[06:09] <jbmagic> intelikey will ubuntu ask me what size swap and .root when i install ubuntu?
[06:09] <dabaR> panzer: as you recover what?
[06:09] <IdleOne> is it normal that xfce is asking for password on reboot?
[06:09] <wastrel> seth_oh`boy:  you can't use sudo?
[06:09] <robotgeek> IdleOne: yes
[06:09] <crimsun> IdleOne: yes
[06:09] <seth_oh`boy> No I can't
[06:09] <IdleOne> crimsun:  it didnt earlier
[06:09] <intelikey> jbmagic if you choose to manually partition it will  yes.
[06:09] <Xenguy> Lao: do some research; you need synaptic (GUI) or apt-get (command-line)
[06:09] <Madpilot> seth_oh`boy: with sudo, you use your own user pw - the one Ubuntu asked you to create on install
[06:09] <brad_teenbot> my sound isnt working, i have been trying to get it to work since ive installed it. Does anyone know how i get to the Ubuntu sound help room?
[06:10] <chromed> Hi people! I am running dapper (coz I'm craaaaazy) on amd64 (its a i386 install though) and I think the NX bit protection is causing Wine to go BOOM! Anyone else seen this and know how to sort it out?
[06:10] <Xenguy> IdleOne: yes
[06:10] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: this is the room.
[06:10] <seth_oh`boy> It doesn't accept it.
[06:10] <wastrel> seth_oh`boy:  you know that your user password is used for sudo, not the root password
[06:10] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[06:10] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <jbmagic> intelikey so 500mb for /swap, /home 14gb and rest to /root?
[06:10] <panzer> how recovery grub I dont know
[06:10] <Madpilot> seth_oh`boy: what happens when you try System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic?
[06:10] <IdleOne> Xenguy:  I understand you guys are telling me it's normal but earlier when I rebooted it didnt ask for a password
[06:10] <dabaR> panzer: read the pm from ubotu
[06:10] <intelikey> jbmagic if you choose to manually partition it will  yes.   or should i say you will have control over the partitioning process.  it doesn't actually ask that question.
[06:10] <wastrel> seth_oh`boy:  the original user you created during the install should be able to use sudo
[06:10] <Xenguy> jbmagic: I thought you had 20Gb
[06:10] <Lao> ok, back to my books, thanks guys
[06:11] <Xenguy> IdleOne: it's normal
[06:11] <jbmagic> xenguy yes
[06:11] <intelikey> jbmagic looks like a good setup yeah
[06:11] <panzer> dabaR what??
[06:11] <IdleOne> ok Ill take your word for it
[06:11] <Xenguy> jbmagic: that's only 14.5 above
[06:11] <jbmagic> intelikey thanks
[06:11] <dabaR> panzer: look on your screen for "ubotu"
[06:11] <panzer> ok
[06:11] <jbmagic> xenguy i said the rest to /roor :)
[06:11] <pepsi> hrm, speaking of sudo
[06:11] <jbmagic> root
[06:11] <panzer> thanks
[06:11] <chromed> Anyone seen problems with Wine?
[06:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i reinstall a program
[06:11] <Xenguy> jbmagic: ahh
[06:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> using apt
[06:11] <mordof_> bleh.. having troubles with installing nvidia drivers :S
[06:12] <jbmagic> is a pentium 2 ok for ubuntu?
[06:12] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: man apt-get (there's an option for reinstall)
[06:12] <jbmagic> it an old system
[06:12] <Mantice> lol pentiem to :)
[06:12] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: what option ..
[06:12] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: man apt-get
[06:12] <Mantice> Command promt mode !!
[06:12] <Mantice> :)
[06:12] <wastrel> someone should write a man howto
[06:12] <Xenguy> wastrel: man man
[06:12] <intelikey> !cli
[06:12] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[06:12] <wastrel> that briefly explains the format of a man file, how to quit, how to search
[06:12] <Xenguy> man help
[06:13] <wastrel> Xenguy:  someone who doesn't know how to read a man file won't get much out of that
[06:13] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: you do realise that you need to provide a lot more info, correct?
[06:13] <dabaR> jbmagic: yes it is.
[06:13] <Xenguy> wastrel: you have to start somewhere :-)
[06:13] <wastrel> Xenguy:  a man howto would be a good place
[06:13] <Bmur> intelikey:  Why doesn't ubuntu mount a second hard drive for the default (admin) user?  I had to use the drive manager to access the second drive.  ...but I had to do it as "root" even though the root account is disabled.
[06:13] <Xenguy> wastrel: fine. man man works for me
[06:14] <Madpilot> wastrel: see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands - which has a short two-paragraph intro to the man command
[06:14] <chromed> OK, different question, how do I disable NX bit protection?
[06:14] <intelikey> Bmur mount is always done by root.... ?
[06:14] <wastrel> Madpilot:  it's not for me, it's for all these people who are asking how to quit man
[06:14] <Xenguy> wastrel: let them eat cake :P
[06:14] <Madpilot> wastrel: good point - I'm not sure that's mentioned in BasicCommands :P
[06:14] <dabaR> intelikey: if you have the user option set in fstab for a partition, normal users can use it too.
[06:15] <jbmagic> dabar it wont take long to compile on ubuntu with an old pent 2 system?
[06:15] <dabaR> mount it rather
[06:15] <chromed> All i need is World of Warcraft :(
[06:15] <dabaR> jbmagic: you do a lot of compiles?
[06:15] <intelikey> Bmur if you have a listing in the /etc/fstab then the system mounts it for you (as root)  when you issue the mount command
[06:15] <wastrel> Madpilot:  actually yes it is mentioned :] 
[06:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> would sudo apt-get --reinstall libxpm4 work ?
[06:15] <jbmagic> dabar not really just want o install apps when ubuntu is install? will i need to compile?
[06:15] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: sounds about right
[06:15] <kookaburra> jbmagic, you really shouldn't have to compile much unless you write and compile your own programs.
[06:15] <Francisco> hello
[06:15] <Francisco> hello
[06:15] <Francisco> helol
[06:16] <Francisco> hello
[06:16] <jbmagic> kookaburra good news thanks
[06:16] <Francisco> hello
[06:16] <Francisco> helllo
[06:16] <Francisco> hello
[06:16] <robotgeek> !ops
[06:16] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[06:16] <kookaburra> ubuntu installs from binary files, not source
[06:16] <dabaR> jbmagic: what do you use ubuntu for? for a server pentium 2 is great. for gnome, it will depend on the amount of memory, other desktops, like xfce are a better choice for under 256 RAM. I mean, try it out, then see.
[06:16] <Francisco> can somebody help me==??
[06:16] <kookaburra> binary is faster
[06:16] <Francisco> I have some problems compiling"!!
[06:16] <xpl0it> I have just installed BitDefender...and when I type bdc --info or bdc /mnt/hda1 --all it says core initialization failed.  libfn failed bdc.
[06:16] <dabaR> robotgeek: ask the person to stop first.
[06:16] <benplaut> Francisco: not after that outburst
[06:16] <robotgeek> Francisco: why did you have to spam so much?
[06:16] <robotgeek> dabaR: sorry
[06:16] <xpl0it> I can type bdc (period) and continue to get the error libfn failed bdc.
[06:16] <Xenguy> robotgeek: or simply slay them...
[06:16] <Francisco> robotgeek, I am Despertie
[06:17] <jbmagic> dabar i plan to use ubuntu as my second cpu. i will mainly use it for music,movies, internet and learnign linux
[06:17] <benplaut> as are many
[06:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm doesn't work
[06:17] <Bmur> intelikey: k, it seems like it should be easier by default.  but I can't complain too much
[06:17] <benplaut> what's your question?
[06:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i reinstall a package using apt....
[06:17] <robotgeek> Francisco: you reminded my of a spam bot :)
[06:17] <xpl0it> apt-get install
[06:17] <intelikey> dabaR try that on a system with / mounted nosuid  and see if users can mount.... it has to be root, whether through the systems fstab or through sudo or what ever.
[06:17] <Xenguy> xpl0it: reinstall
[06:17] <kookaburra> you will have fun with it most likely jbmagic.
[06:17] <jbmagic> what does a server linux do, just curious?
[06:18] <wastrel> Francisco:  we can't help you if we don't know what your problem is.  if you tell us, we may be able to help
[06:18] <Madpilot> jbmagic: the server install of Ubuntu? It's got no graphical desktop, just the command line - for running web servers & such
[06:18] <intelikey> jbmagic you mean server install ?    it is without X    no gnome.
[06:18] <Xenguy> jbmagic: web server; ftp server; you name it, whatever services you want to offer
[06:18] <dabaR> Francisco: what is wrong? post errors to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and tell us exactly what you are doing, and in one line, if possible.
[06:18] <jbmagic> no i mean using linux as a server only
[06:19] <jbmagic> what they mean by that
[06:19] <dabaR> jbmagic: it serves.
[06:19] <kookaburra> a server: A host computer on a network that holds information (eg, Web sites) and reponds to requests for information from it (eg, links to another Web page). The term server is also used to refer to the software that makes the act of serving information possible. Commerce servers, for example, use software to run the main functions of an e-commerce Web site, such as product display, online ordering, and inventory management. You'll
[06:19] <kookaburra> also hear this described as "shopping cart technology. ...
[06:19] <Xenguy> jbmagic: ahh, minimal install, and no gui then
[06:19] <jbmagic> i hear people say it alot but what does it serve?
[06:19] <Madpilot> jbmagic: any website you look at is being "served" by a server - lots of them run Linux
[06:19] <kookaburra> scroll up to my last post jbmagic
[06:19] <dabaR> for example, it holds your web page, serves as a router for your house network and a firewall, and stores all your important backups of files.
[06:19] <kookaburra> A server is a computer that handles requests for data, email, file transfers, and other network services from other computers (ie, clients).
[06:19] <brad_teenbot> Varsendagger: are you awake tonight? i was wondering about what was going on with that labtop
[06:20] <jbmagic> i see
[06:20] <wastrel> jbmagic:  it's called a server because it provides a service
[06:20] <Francisco> wastrel, so, read to me. ... dabaR too pls.. I wanna know how to make programs in C and then have like a .exe [in windows]  I know that in ubuntu it can not be possible but I know that there is a similar."
[06:20] <jbmagic> makes sense
[06:20] <chromed> Guyes, when I try to run winecfg
[06:20] <Xenguy> and it doesn't have a damn GUI ;-)
[06:20] <chromed> chrome@slick:~$ winecfg
[06:20] <chromed> Killed
[06:20] <chromed> I get that
[06:20] <chromed> Anyone help?
[06:20] <wastrel> Francisco:  sudo apt-get install build-essential   then find a C programming tutorial
[06:20] <intelikey> jbmagic like i said    the server install option on the install cd   means you install the base system  but no X.
[06:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> I'M having a problem trying to install the LATEST xfce, it keeps telling me i need X pixmap Library, but i have it installed, and i have even reinstalled it can anyone help............ PLEASe
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell Francisco about b-e
[06:21] <jbmagic> intelikey that will be kinda rough for me starting out
[06:21] <jbmagic> i do the default install
[06:21] <intelikey> yes it would....
[06:21] <kookaburra> yeah, you will be happier
[06:21] <Francisco> I download the emacs 21 but I do not know how to use it.." and I read some about to compilation and then when I have the X.o I do not know what to do exactly.."
[06:21] <dabaR> CanYouHelpMePlz: you need to post a link to pastebin with the error, not that big sentence.
[06:21] <Madpilot> jbmagic: just do the default install, it'll give you a full desktop
[06:21] <Xenguy> jbmagic: if you want a desktop, then install the regular desktop and watch Ubu shine :-)
[06:21] <Mantice> Is there a game emulator?
[06:22] <jbmagic> damn i forgot, does a dvd player play well on a pentium 2? i forgot how well it does?
[06:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dabaR: i don't have an error, just the xfce installer says i need the libXpm.so file, but i don't know where it is
[06:22] <chromed> Francisco: Go buy a book called "The C Programming Language" by Kernigan and Richie. Look it up on Amazon.
[06:22] <dabaR> Francisco: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html
[06:22] <Xenguy> Mantice: wine runs games; see frankscorner.org for example
[06:22] <Mantice> Hows Unbuntu With drivers?
[06:22] <intelikey> jbmagic but if you can survive a comando install you will be ages ahead of the avrage ubuntu user in a month   :)
[06:22] <xpl0it> bdc returns core initialization failed. libfn failed bdc.
[06:22] <xpl0it> arg
[06:22] <Francisco> chromed, I know the programmation on C. but I do not know how to get the executable on my pc.."
[06:23] <jbmagic> intelikey true..but i do the default install and use the terminal alot , so i can be ahead
[06:23] <intelikey> :)
[06:23] <Xenguy> Mantice: pretty good, research in advance helps
[06:23] <dabaR> Francisco: do you have build-essential installed?
[06:23] <chromed> Francisco: "gcc -o hello helloworld.c" will com
[06:23] <chromed> pile the binary for you.
[06:23] <Francisco> dabaR, I thing so..
[06:23] <chromed> but you really should use Google
[06:23] <seth_oh`boy> :(
[06:23] <xpl0it> Anyone use bitdefender?
[06:24] <dabaR> Francisco: well, go make sure, that is the compiler package.
[06:24] <EricNeon> hi
[06:24] <Xenguy> !anyone
[06:24] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:24] <jbmagic> i have an old second pc i am not using.. i better get some use of it by using ubuntu on it and share it will my dsl connection of my main window xp
[06:24] <jbmagic> i wish i did this a long time ago
[06:24] <chromed> can someone help me with my little wine problem please?
[06:24] <jbmagic> chromed red or white :)
[06:25] <chromed> jbmagic: funny :(
[06:25] <Francisco> No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[06:25] <Francisco> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[06:25] <nalioth> Francisco: please don't paste in here
[06:25] <xpl0it> Downloaded BitDefender via their website.  used dpkg -i to install... Typed bdc /mnt/hda1 --all and continue received:  core initialization failed. libfn failed bdc.
[06:25] <Francisco> nalioth, it is for dabaR ...
[06:25] <nalioth> Francisco: use a pastebin next time, please
[06:25] <xpl0it> googled this prob but didn't see any answers.
[06:26] <Francisco> nalioth, ok..2
[06:26] <wastrel> xpl0it:  was it a debian package or an ubuntu package?
[06:26] <brad_teenbot> is there any way i can set a screensaver on ubuntu??
[06:26] <chadwick|359> can anybody help me get Ekiga interfacing with msn/windows messenger, or give me the name of any program that it would be compatable with?
[06:26] <kookaburra> xpl0it, it seems like a dependency is not met that the prog needs.
[06:26] <dabaR> Francisco: comment that repository out that is giving you trouble, it is the plf one.
[06:26] <romeo> i am abou to download the latest version of amsn do i get tar or rpm for ubuntu?
[06:26] <Xenguy> brad_teenbot: xscreensaver
[06:26] <romeo> rpm sorry
[06:27] <kookaburra> neither would be preferable romeo
[06:27] <jbmagic> romeo dont you just do an apt-get amsn?
[06:27] <wastrel> what's ekiga
[06:27] <Mantice> Any one here recomend python
[06:27] <liskl> anyone know how to output a specified line from a specified file to standard output for use in a bash shell?
[06:27] <kookaburra> you really want to try the ubuntu repository first
[06:27] <wastrel> recommend pythong for what?
[06:27] <wastrel> heh python
[06:27] <intelikey> romeo .deb  if possable
[06:27] <Xenguy> Mantice: python is nice
[06:27] <xpl0it> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BitDefender followed the directions in this link.
[06:27] <xpl0it> but still received the errors
[06:27] <Mantice> first language to learn besides html ...
[06:27] <brad_teenbot> Xenguy: whats that? sorry im still learning about ubuntu
[06:27] <intelikey> Xenguy perl ?
[06:28] <wastrel> liskl:  head will do that - man head
[06:28] <jbmagic> kookaburra i tought apt-get program name will get you the program you want
[06:28] <Xenguy> brad_teenbot: apt-cache show xscreensaver
[06:28] <seth_oh`boy> Does anybody know a good website where I can find information on how to setup a wireless lan connection in Ubuntu??
[06:28] <intelikey> !start a language war
[06:28] <ubotu> hindi is far more elegant than english
[06:28] <kookaburra> that's right
[06:28] <robotgeek> seth_oh`boy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:28] <Madpilot> !wireless
[06:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:28] <Xenguy> intelikey: I like perl, and I like python :-)
[06:28] <kookaburra> apt-get install program
[06:28] <romeo> well does ubuntu have the latest version on it already
[06:28] <seth_oh`boy> Thanks
[06:28] <romeo> /
[06:28] <dabaR> hahaha, that totally smells like razor-X that factoid.
[06:28] <romeo> ?
[06:28] <romeo> ?
[06:28] <jbmagic> kookaburra so no need to get .rpm, tar, .deb, etc right?
[06:28] <chrome> Can someone please tell me, does Ubuntu use Exec Shield?!
[06:28] <Madpilot> dabaR: which one?
[06:29] <_jason> liskl: sed -n 1p /path/to/file, change 1 to the line number you want.  That's what I know
[06:29] <kookaburra> do you have synaptic installed romeo. it's a gui for installing programs the easy  way
[06:29] <dabaR> Madpilot: see last ubotu post
[06:29] <xpl0it> Any virus detection scanning software (free of course) out there?
[06:29] <kookaburra> point click
[06:29] <xpl0it> Bitdefender seems to be hosed...
[06:29] <intelikey> Xenguy we are offtopic but maybe i wont get kicked for this,  i really dont know anything but bash; and i'm not sure i should say i "know" bash....
[06:29] <stephen__> does anyone know a reason what could cause audio and video to be choppy on a new installation?
[06:29] <Madpilot> dabaR: the wireless one? "rumour has it" is one of the bot's standard lines, I think
[06:29] <Xenguy> kookaburra: installed by default in most cases
[06:29] <dabaR> Madpilot: sorry, one before that.
[06:29] <foov2> i am using bluetooth for php and js development; any other suggestions?  tia
[06:29] <romeo> synaptic i l have to check
[06:29] <Xenguy> intelikey: they're all good, and can be learned a bit at a time
[06:30] <wastrel> liskl:  actually you'll have to use head & tail...  each only does half the job :] 
[06:30] <romeo> should be here somewhere right
[06:30] <kookaburra> should be under system-tools
[06:30] <Madpilot> dabaR: heh, the language war one, might be :P
[06:30] <foov2> sorry, lol, bluefish
[06:30] <romeo> i ll check for synaptec
[06:30] <Madpilot> romeo: System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:31] <brad_teenbot> Am i able to put an image on ubuntu as a background??
[06:32] <Madpilot> brad_teenbot: desktop wallpaper? sure - right click on the desktop, choose "Change Desktop Background"
[06:32] <wastrel> sigh
[06:32] <jbmagic> so no need to get .rpm, tar, .deb, etc right? just use apt-get install program name?
[06:32] <kookaburra> i never keep the default theme as my main theme.
[06:32] <intelikey> jbmagic correct
[06:32] <jbmagic> cool
[06:32] <wastrel> don't be sad
[06:33] <Madpilot> jbmagic: yes, or use Synaptic if you prefer a GUI
[06:33] <awr> I'm speak in portuguese
[06:33] <brad_teenbot> ok thanks Madpilot
[06:33] <jbmagic> so after ubuntu is install , enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. anything else i need to do?
[06:33] <Xenguy> jbmagic: although apt-get can be mighty handy when you are installing software on a remote host :-)
[06:33] <awr> somebody speak portuguese?
[06:34] <Xenguy> jbmagic: kiss yer wind0ze goodbye :P
[06:34] <cradek> !pt
[06:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:34] <jbmagic> Xenguy lol
[06:34] <awr> cradek,  thanks
[06:34] <cradek> welcome
[06:34] <jbmagic> what the best cd ripper to get and best dvd ripper to get?
[06:34] <intelikey> jbmagic the gui frontend for dpkg is 'synaptic'   two cli frontends are  apt and aptitude   apt includes apt-get apt-cache apt-config and so on.....  where as aptitude is an ncruses interactive frontend      err i think ncurses....
[06:34] <cradek> you can just go to that directory and see if you can insert the module
[06:35] <Madpilot> jbmagic: for ripping audio, ubuntu has SoundJuicer installed by default, it works nicely
[06:35] <kookaburra> there's gnomebaker. it burns pretty good
[06:35] <Francisco> dabaR, I need that you help me!!
[06:35] <jbmagic> intelikey thanks
[06:35] <tga1> to install .otf fonts do I just copy them to ~/.fonts?
[06:36] <intelikey> jbmagic you can search with any of those afore mentioned apps
[06:36] <Mordof> question: Do the NVIDIA drivers downloaded from nvidia.com for IA32 work in dapper??
[06:36] <dabaR> Francisco: how would I do that?
[06:36] <liskl> using head i can get a range of lines using -n  starting from the start of file
[06:36] <liskl> using tail i can get a range of lines using -n starting reversed from EOF
[06:36] <liskl> i'm looking for a way to get only line 57 from file horse.txt, or line 83 from cow.txt
[06:36] <Mordof> ive tried installing them several times and i get a failed to load module error
[06:36] <wastrel> howcome nobody ever mentions dselect
[06:36] <brad_teenbot> Am i able to leave my PC on ubuntu 24/7? without any problems?
[06:36] <wastrel> i spent a lot of hours in dselect back in the day
[06:36] <cradek> liskl: head ... | tail ...
[06:36] <crimsun> wastrel: because most people will not have struggled with it like we have.
[06:36] <Arafangi1n> How do simpress presentations work on laptops?
[06:36] <wastrel> hmm maybe that's why nobody mentions it :] 
[06:36] <dabaR> brad_teenbot: does it do anything while it is on, or just leave it on?
[06:36] <intelikey> brad_teenbot no.  your light bill will go up.....
[06:37] <jbmagic> gnomebaker burns everything well. like backup dvd that i own?
[06:37] <romeo> ok i found synpatic but it won t let update amsn
[06:37] <RaoulDuke> amsn kinda sucks
[06:37] <wastrel> liskl:  head -n 57 | tail -n 1
[06:37] <RaoulDuke> try gaim :)
[06:37] <jbmagic> romeo do apt-get install amsn
[06:37] <kookaburra> for like what? backing up your music files, pictures etc?
[06:38] <Mordof> Anyone know?
[06:38] <brad_teenbot> intelikey, haha very funny lol
[06:38] <kookaburra> if that is what you mean then yes.
[06:38] <wastrel> liskl:  er,  head -n 57 horse.txt | tail -n 1
[06:38] <jbmagic> kookaburra like dvd movies i own
[06:38] <jbmagic> and cd i own
[06:38] <Francisco> my pc does not play .wmv, I have downloas the gstream xine, of totem, VLC, Real player, Mplayer and I have not done that it works..
[06:38] <dabaR> liskl: get first 57 lines as intermediate result, then get the last only line of the intermediate result.
[06:38] <romeo> soory i should say amsn is instaled i want to update it
[06:38] <jbmagic> if install it should be the latest version
[06:38] <Madpilot> !tell Francisco about w32codecs
[06:38] <dabaR> wastrel: >:(
[06:38] <romeo> and while i m at it i would also like to update firefox
[06:38] <liskl> thanks everyone
[06:38] <kookaburra> Francisco, you need to install the win32codecs
[06:38] <Francisco> Madpilot, I have done..
[06:38] <RaoulDuke> me too on firefox
[06:39] <wastrel> dabaR:  sry :] 
[06:39] <Iceman> sucks, seems my ubuntu system crashed fatal today ...
[06:39] <Mordof> grr, wish Tomi- was here!
[06:39] <jbmagic> what the command to update apps you have
[06:39] <cradek> I think so
[06:39] <kookaburra> apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:39] <rjcute> hi
[06:39] <Iceman> not the operating system, the motherboard seems to have failed ...
[06:39] <kiru> hi
[06:39] <kiru> hello
[06:39] <RaoulDuke> @ ice... get a lanparty mobo
[06:39] <RaoulDuke> wont break
[06:40] <intelikey> jbmagic latest.... well no.   but latest stable at the time of release of the disrot i.e 10/2005 for breezy
[06:40] <jbmagic> romeo just use the update command
[06:40] <rjcute> fd
[06:40] <romeo> ypu mean in firefox?
[06:40] <Iceman> RaoulDuke had a Abit k8v pro ... 64 bit ... socket 754 system ...
[06:40] <Francisco> I have done it. and It do not works.."
[06:40] <jbmagic> intelikey i tought you can update the distro ubuntu and dont need to downlaod the iso again?
[06:40] <romeo> it just says it s updated
[06:40] <rjcute> hello to all fuckersssssssssssssssssss
[06:40] <RaoulDuke> 64 is for the win :)
[06:40] <romeo> bit its only 1,07
[06:40] <jbmagic> romeo do apt-get update firefox
[06:40] <rjcute> wew
[06:40] <RaoulDuke> DFI Lanparty mobos are the best in industry IMHO
[06:41] <rjcute> rt
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> they support 754
[06:41] <rjcute> rt
[06:41] <livid> hello
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> as well as 939
[06:41] <Mordof> !tell Francisco about RestrictedFormats
[06:41] <livid> what is the default root password on ubuntu?
[06:41] <rjcute> re
[06:41] <rjcute> er
[06:41] <romeo> you mean in conmmand?
[06:41] <GTroy> any way to reset/restart the screesaver app?
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> root is disabled lol
[06:41] <jbmagic> romeo yes
[06:41] <Iceman> RaoulDuke All i get is post code ... will not boot ...
[06:41] <rjcute> wat
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> does it beep ice?
[06:41] <romeo> ok
[06:41] <dabaR> rjcute: hello back. now stop
[06:41] <Mordof> Francisco: if w32codecs does not solve it, those should
[06:41] <wastrel> GTroy:  xscreensaver?   there's an option in the configurator to restart it  check the menu
[06:41] <RaoulDuke> u can get handy diagnostic info from that
[06:41] <Iceman> RaoulDuke yes ...
[06:41] <livid> RaaulDuke, yea...I know it is disabled...how do you turn it on?
[06:41] <GTroy> wastrel: thanks
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> how many times?
[06:42] <kookaburra> jbmagic, you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:42] <Francisco> Mordof, ok I will try it
[06:42] <Mantice> Whats the difference between 64 bit build and the normal intel 32 bit build???
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> ..... @ livid ... you cant use SUDO
[06:42] <interneti> I have installed e17, and I am unable to log in, I get this eror
[06:42] <intelikey> jbmagic you can upgrade the release to the next release (dapper in may)  but the packages will only update security updates and bug fixes between releases.
[06:42] <Iceman> RaoulDuke 1 long think it was 3 short
[06:42] <jbmagic> if the distro ubunto version change..will i need to download the iso again and install the distro again?
[06:42] <rjcute> yeah
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> hmmm happend to me (mobo) go to your brand mobo website
[06:42] <romeo> ok
[06:42] <interneti> I am told to edit the xinitrc.....
[06:42] <RaoulDuke> and look up their 'beep codes'
[06:42] <kookaburra> scroll up to my last post jbmagic
[06:42] <Mantice> ;/
[06:42] <livid> RaoulDuke, I tried using sudo and my password when it asks for admin password and it fails
[06:42] <whatwhat> im stupid or what? or my 142 qi is not good ... to install the java plugin in linux whith firefox?
[06:42] <Iceman> RaoulDike not yet ... thats next ...
[06:43] <interneti> so I was wondring if anyone could help
[06:43] <whatwhat> grrrrrrrrrrr
[06:43] <Madpilot> livid: did you do a standard install of Ubuntu?
[06:43] <Mantice> With ubuntu does it auto update so I allways have the latestest and gratest version :)
[06:43] <jbmagic> kookaburra thanks
[06:43] <dabaR> jbmagic: no, you will not.
[06:43] <livid> Madpilot, yes...
[06:43] <Iceman> RaoulDike i want to cry. lose a 64 bit box ... ;(
[06:43] <RaoulDuke> could just be dead RAM or bios ice
[06:43] <intelikey> jbmagic if the distro....and install the distro again?   no.  distro upgrade.
[06:43] <RaoulDuke> i feel ur pain i had a new laptop's mobo died. 900 quid down the drain
[06:44] <rjcute> send me
[06:44] <jbmagic> dabar yep i saw kookaburra instuction on how to update distro
[06:44] <Mantice> How do you upgrade the distro?
[06:44] <Iceman> RaoulDike not the ram, it's in this winblows system now and stable ..
[06:44] <Mantice> Is there some kind of icon or somthing
[06:44] <livid> Madpilot, any ideas?
[06:44] <RaoulDuke> hmmmmmm how odd!
[06:44] <jbmagic> mantice look at kookaburra post above
[06:44] <interneti> so there is not a single person here capable of helping me?
[06:44] <dabaR> Mantice: you change the name of the repository you install packages from, and run an upgrade command.
[06:44] <jbmagic> Mantice you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <RaoulDuke> sorry interneti whats ur prob again?
[06:44] <Iceman> RaoulDike got to look at bios ... and read on the post code ..
[06:44] <livid> hrmm..
[06:45] <interneti> e17 gives me an error and I was advised to edit xinitrc
[06:45] <rjcute> send me the system
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> if its booting into windowz its POST is fine.
[06:45] <livid> RaoulDuke, sudo seems like it isn't accepting my password
[06:45] <Madpilot> livid: it should have worked - using the password you entered during setup when Ubuntu asks for one
[06:45] <rjcute> fast
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> .... hmm im not sure thats never happend to me before
[06:45] <jbmagic> i remember a while back when mandrake update there distro, you had to download the iso and install mandrake again. i hated that
[06:45] <livid> Madpilot, yes...I am aware it should have ;) heheh
[06:45] <Iceman> RaoulDike im on a p4 system now, to read on the mobo ...
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[06:45] <RaoulDuke> haha sorry misunderstood
[06:45] <pgavin> i have a problem with dhcp...  my ISP has assigned me an IP that dhcp should be getting, but its getting some other IP.  If I boot some other OS, dhcp gets that IP just fine
[06:46] <livid> anyway...I am going to futz around with it...
[06:46] <Iceman> RaoulDike 64 will not boot ...
[06:46] <pgavin> anyone know why that would happen?
[06:46] <Francisco> Mordof, tell me something about ."" wmv files encoded with DRM are not playable by the codecs...
[06:46] <livid> not having a network connection
[06:46] <livid> not good
[06:46] <intelikey> jbmagic but as far as getting the latest version of blah between distro upgrades....  not how it works....   and why would a release that is less than 6 months old be so bad anyway ?   surely that is fresh enough for anything...
[06:46] <RaoulDuke> do you have any post information ice?
[06:46] <RaoulDuke> set your bios to show the full bootup screen
[06:46] <Mordof> Francisco: that means its protected afaik, you can't play protected media in linux.. not allowed
[06:46] <interneti> RaoulDuke is there a possibility you could help?
[06:46] <Mantice> You should have never endoded in DRM = Microsoft = Bad = Copyprotection........
[06:46] <dabaR> rjcute: please stop sending messages when you do not have anything to say.
[06:46] <Madpilot> livid: no idea, but if you did a standard install & are using your user pw, you should be OK - you're using the original user you set up on install?
[06:46] <Mordof> Francisco: you would need to download a license to view it, and downloading licenses does not work in linux
[06:46] <RaoulDuke> sorry interneti dude, im not sure :$
[06:46] <Iceman> RaoulDike cant get a post screen ...
[06:47] <rjcute> ok
[06:47] <RaoulDuke> mmmm sounds like its really screwed
[06:47] <whatwhat> is necassary install ... java whith root ? to can run the java plugin in firefox ?
[06:47] <jbmagic> intelikey i am just glad with ubuntu, there no need to install the distro over agin by getting the new version .iso of the distro...glad you can just use the command to update
[06:47] <Mantice> I wonder why it doesnt work in linux ;) Gates makes every thing work LOL
[06:47] <RaoulDuke> i know this sounds silly but go step by step, check your PSU then RAM and CPU conns. and then the BIOS chip itself
[06:47] <Francisco> Mordof, ok ok. I get it... I can see it but not heat it..
[06:47] <Iceman> RaoulDike reading on it now, got to find a post code listing ... :(
[06:47] <RichART1> is TokenBad here?
[06:47] <interneti> anyone here have any Idea what I could do to fix this crap????????????????
[06:47] <Mordof> Mantice: only way to do it would be to work around it.. in that case, playing them is highly illegal, and linux could be taken down for it
[06:47] <wastrel> intelikey:  can you paste the error at this website: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org   and give us the link?
[06:48] <RaoulDuke> mmm once youve got that it will help
[06:48] <Mordof> Mantice: there is a thin line for playing media and other stuff that linux can't cross, or it could be bad
[06:48] <RichART1> ::TokenBad:: ?
[06:48] <intelikey> wastrel no i can not   ???????
[06:48] <dabaR> whatwhat: did you read the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[06:48] <Madpilot> !tell whatwhat about java
[06:48] <RaoulDuke> @ mordo .... i think its up to the user to cross that line
[06:48] <wastrel> intelikey:  did you write down the error?  what does it say you should do with xinitrc
[06:49] <Iceman> dang cant find a beep code listing
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> ubu has done it well, dont ship it,but leave it to the user
[06:49] <Mordof> RaoulDuke: not when it comes to copy protection, granted they have mp3 support n stuff.. but copy protection is just asking for a lawsuit
[06:49] <whatwhat> dabaR i just try :\ ok i will check it
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> thats true..
[06:49] <RichART1> k, i just wanna kno 1 thing: how does one UNinstall ubuntu?? I don't have enuff hdd space 4 it
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> USE THE LIVE CD LOL
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> heheh
[06:49] <Mordof> RaoulDuke: the only way to avoid conflicts is by grabbing the license from microsoft.com, and microsoft checks for windows :P
[06:49] <Madpilot> RaoulDuke: you don't need to use @ to begin lines, and it helps if you use the full nickname
[06:49] <intelikey> wastrel you smoking crack or something ?     please address your questions to whom they concern   :)
[06:49] <RaoulDuke> mmmm shit yeah i hadnt thought of that
[06:49] <RichART1> use the liveCD 2 uninstall?
[06:49] <rjcute> guys my pc is logging
[06:50] <jbmagic> why does other distro make you get the new updated version of there distro when ever it comes out and you have to download the iso again and install over.   i glad UBuntu is not like that. just a simple command to use
[06:50] <RaoulDuke> sorry old old habbits :D
[06:50] <wastrel> intelikey:  sry it's scrolling pretty fast in here :] 
[06:50] <RichART1> is anyone answering me?
[06:50] <intelikey> wastrel it's ok i stand under you......
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  you may be better off doing a reisntall howeger when the next version comes out.
[06:50] <wastrel> interneti:    did you write down the error?  what does it say you should do with xinitrc
[06:50] <_jason> RichART1: use the install cd to install
[06:50] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis why is that?
[06:50] <RaoulDuke> ICE you there dude?
[06:51] <RichART1> no _jason; to UNinstall
[06:51] <RichART1> i wanna take it out!
[06:51] <brad_teenbot> Thanks everyone for your help
[06:51] <_jason> RichART1: what do you use? windows?
[06:51] <Mantice> Whats the difference between the Unbuntu 64 bit and the 32 bitversion
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  when EVERYTHING gets updated at once.. :P it can be.. well finicky.. theres always seems to be people comming in here with 'issues' when upgrading from one relase to another.
[06:51] <RichART1> ::_jason:: yeah, xp pro
[06:51] <odla> is totem being unable to play dvds in dapper a known problem?  i.e. it gives the following error  'no reason'
[06:51] <_jason> Mantice: 32 bits :)
[06:51] <rjcute> send me a new system
[06:51] <Mantice> LOL
[06:51] <Mantice> yeah
[06:51] <RaoulDuke> me too rofl
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  i just keep home on a seperate partition. and then reinstall with every new release.
[06:52] <rjcute> w
[06:52] <Mantice> ok you win
[06:52] <malv> anyone know of any website that show how to write really fast c++ code?
[06:52] <chameleon> anyone know the best distro that is sucure and fast
[06:52] <intelikey> RichART1 use xp to reclaim the 'now linux' partition  and fix your mbr
[06:52] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis ok i see..  will i lose what i have already isntall?
[06:52] <chameleon> maby a sever distro
[06:52] <malv> and how to avoid common efficiency pitfals
[06:52] <RaoulDuke> malv heheh i have same problem
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  proberly. but its fairly trivial to reinstall the stuff.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:52] <Mantice> nah but seareasly all packages from, and run an upgrade command.
 Mantice you would just change your sources.list file to the next release name and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:52] <RichART1> ::_jason:: how do i do that?
[06:52] <Mantice> lol
[06:52] <Mantice> Sorry
[06:52] <malv> i have the feeling I am writing really slow code
[06:52] <RichART1> ::_jason:: sorry, i'm a total newb @ this stuff
[06:52] <Mantice> I pasted shit
[06:52] <chameleon> anyone know
[06:52] <_jason> Mantice: some stuff isn't avaible for 64bit yet, like flash for instance.  That's probably the biggest difference other than the fact that one is 64bit and the other is 32bit
[06:53] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis so anything in the /home partion wont get lost.?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> chameleon,  you are being rather vague. :P
[06:53] <chameleon> sorry
[06:53] <wastrel> malv:  #c++ maybe?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  if you have /home on its own partition - you can chose to not reformat it.
[06:53] <chameleon> i just thought not one seen me
[06:53] <RaoulDuke> well ciao guys, got a lecture.
[06:53] <RichART1> ::_jason:: oh, & anutha thing, its not fully installed in the 1st place coz i didnt have enuff hdd space, k?
[06:53] <malv> wastrel, yea, sorry I was pasting into the wrong channel
[06:53] <malv> heh
[06:53] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis is /home where the apps gets install too?
[06:53] <_jason> RichART1: boot a livecd and use gparted to delete the linux partitions, then make new ones for whatever you want, boot with the windows install disk and fixmbr
[06:53] <chameleon> and see still no anser
[06:54] <Mantice> Is there such thing as Gaming on linux?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  nope.
[06:54] <Mantice> I guess it would be open source so it will be free :)
[06:54] <Fujitsu> Mantice, ?
[06:54] <RichART1> ::_jason:: k, thx alot frend
[06:54] <_jason> chameleon: wine is in the repositories
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  /home is where the users keep their stuff.
[06:54] <intelikey> malv faster code is not always better code, but normally it is.   if you have a string that you think needs optimised you should take it to a language specific channel   i.e.  #perl
[06:54] <jbmagic> dr Willis thanks
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Mantice,   i play all sorts of games..
[06:54] <Madpilot> Mantice: there are both open-source and close-source games for Linux - Enemy Territory has a Linux version, for example
[06:54] <_jason> RichART1: if I were you, I would delete windows and make room for ubuntu :)
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> "Puzzle Pirates" works under Linux as well.
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:55] <Mantice> :)
[06:55] <Mantice> I played somthing Chess in linux
[06:55] <wastrel> nethack
[06:55] <Mantice> Fedora
[06:55] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis i guess it wont be so bad to download a new .iso version of ubantu when it ever comes out and reinstall the apps  over again
[06:55] <Mantice> GU
[06:55] <Mantice> or somthing
[06:55] <lampshade> Anyone do circuit simulation?
[06:55] <RichART1> i'm afraid too coz of my windows programs (favorites mind you) that won't work anymore
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  i look it as a every 6 mo 'house' cleaning. :P
[06:55] <Mantice> Yeah Im going to have to kill my self
[06:55] <chameleon> any one point me to the right distro to run a sever on ?
[06:56] <Mantice> mIRC = friend
[06:56] <RichART1> ::_jason:: and of deleted something very necessary....like drivers N shit
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> mIRC = Crud.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:56] <intelikey> lampshade  ?
[06:56] <Mantice> mIRC = Crud
[06:56] <Mantice> ~_~
[06:56] <intelikey> oh no sorry lampshade
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> xchat = good.
[06:56] <IdleOne> mirc=could of been a beautiful linux client
[06:56] <dabaR> you are all doing assignments, which are always true.
[06:56] <_jason> RichART1: there are usually good alternatives available, but I understand it would be difficult to get rid of windows altogether.  You can't spare 2GB?
[06:56] <jbmagic> Dr_Willis is that how often a new version of ubantu come out
[06:56] <hadi> do I have gdesklet package deb?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> mirc = creeping feature obsession. :P
[06:56] <wastrel> Dr_Willis:  i dist-upgraded warty->hoary->breezy with minimal problems
[06:56] <RichART1> ::_jason:: and if i knew more about what i was doing I cud afford 2 make a braver move like that!
[06:56] <intelikey> !start a irc war
[06:56] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  new release every 6mo.
[06:56] <whatwhat> dabaR i can now it works very thanks :p no the way you tell to me but it works now thanks :p thet problema was i try to install not from root or use the fakeroot but install it only whith one acount ... single very thanks
[06:57] <intelikey> !start a client war
[06:57] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:57] <RichART1> ::_jason:: i've got 4gigs free
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> wastrel,  :P and how many peopel ya see in here every day that have 'issues' :P
[06:57] <_jason> RichART1: you only need 2 for ubuntu
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> but onepersons minimal problem.. could be anothers BIG problem.
[06:57] <RichART1> really?
[06:57] <_jason> RichART1: that's what it says on the install disk
[06:57] <Madpilot> RichART1: a standard isntall of Ubuntu is around 1.8Gb
[06:57] <Madpilot> install, even...
[06:57] <RichART1> really?
[06:57] <jbmagic> when was the date of ubantu last update?
[06:58] <RichART1> damn
[06:58] <RichART1> ok, i'll try again w/ the install
[06:58] <Mantice> I wonder if I could convert my school to go with linux
[06:58] <RichART1> see u guys in a few then
[06:58] <_jason> RichART1: make sure you have 4gb of free space so the partitioner can do its thing
[06:58] <Madpilot> jbmagic: October 2005 - next version is due out mid-April/06
[06:58] <jbmagic> ok thanks
[06:59] <jessy> hello
[06:59] <intelikey> _jason ? 4 for 2  ?
[06:59] <RichART1> ::CPU:: 1-Intel Pentium M processor 1.80GHz, 899MHz, 0KB (70% Load) .:. ::RAM:: usage: 676/1024MB (66.02%) .:. ::GFX:: MOBILITY RADEON 9000, ::Display:: 1400x1050/32bit/60Hz
[06:59] <RichART1> ::OS:: Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600), ::installed for:: 4w 2d 6h 35m, ::uptime:: 2h 35m .:. ::HDDs:: 4.84GB/33.0GB(14.6%) free
[06:59] <Mantice> Omg Obliven comes out on windows ... in may 30th
[06:59] <jessy> someone here is using eclipse ?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  "dapper" is the next relsase due out in like 2 mo.
[06:59] <RichART1> there, that's what i have currently
[06:59] <odla> anyone else having problems with totem playing movies on dapper?
[06:59] <RichART1> see it?
[06:59] <livid> hrmm...for some reason it liked my password this time
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> jbmagic,  the 'version' number - is the date of release I belive.
[06:59] <livid> so, the default install of ubuntu doesn't have gcc?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> livid,  it can be easially installed later.
[06:59] <Madpilot> RichART1: with those hardware specs, you shouldn't have trouble running Ubuntu
[07:00] <RichART1> ok, i'm going for it then!
[07:00] <RichART1> thx 4 the vote of confidence
[07:00] <livid> Dr_Willis, yea...but it seems like there should be at least some sort of c compiler installed
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livid,  not really :P
[07:00] <RichART1> cya inna few
[07:00] <livid> Dr_Willis, yea really :P
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livid,  with that logic - ubuntu would come on 2+ CD's
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livid,  apt-get install build-essential  there ya go.
[07:00] <cobra_> alguem poderia me ajudar ..
[07:01] <RichART1> wait, gotta finish hacking this porn site 1st - LOL
[07:01] <jbmagic> for partition best to have only /home, / and /swap?
[07:01] <intelikey> livid  the standard ubuntu argument is 'anyone that can use gcc knows how to install gcc'
[07:01] <wastrel> i think the idea is, if you can operate gcc, you should be able to figure out how to istall it
[07:01] <cobra_> estou instalando uma wireless dwl 520 ...
[07:01] <cobra_> ja carreguei o modulo acx_pci
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> livid,  why not comal, an forth, and so on and so on.. and emacs. and tex. and ... ect.. its kept to a minimum  for a reason.
[07:01] <livid> Dr_Willis, well, inserting a second cd is much quicker then finding/installing all of these things...I agree I like it on one disk, but lets keep to it 1 dvd. ;)
[07:01] <dabaR> !es
[07:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:01] <cobra_> mais o tal do wlan nao esta carregando ..
[07:01] <Madpilot> jbmagic: swap isn't really needed, depending on how much ram yo've got
[07:01] <wastrel> that's portugese
[07:01] <Madpilot> !pt
[07:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:01] <cobra_> ok !
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livid,  of corse the problem with all the packages ondisk.. is that often they get updated so fast..  you end up downloading them anyway
[07:02] <livid> Dr_Willis, I understand, and I like that in many ways, but there is something nice about having some basic apps installed.
[07:02] <jetscreamer> !br
[07:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:02] <livid> Dr_Willis, Gaim is installed...and it is super lame :)
[07:02] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: Not everyone has an internet connection waiting for them.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livid,  i just keep a little script that apt-get installs the stuff i need.. and i back it up. and rerun it on a clean install. :P
[07:02] <livid> Dr_willis, yea...I suppose so. but you can update them more leisurely ;)
[07:02] <wastrel> <3 gaim.  livid is a meanie  /me cries
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[07:03] <Razor-X> wastrel: ......
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Now look! you hurt his feelings!
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:03] <Arafangi1n> Does anybody use OpenOffice.org for overhead presentations? (On linux - how do they do it?)  I want to use it such that I have the program on my laptop, but the actual presentation on the overhead projector.
[07:03] <Razor-X> If you want to get passionate about your IM client of choice, I suggest you go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:03] <livid> Razor-x, exactly...
[07:03] <vladuz976> i am trying to compile a library for enlightenment 17 i am getting this error "undefined macro AC_DEFINE AC_MSG_ERROR" what does that mean? anybody here who can help?
[07:03] <livid> Razor-X, hehe...;)
[07:03] <intelikey> livid "some basic"  like bash grep less cut mount.... `ls /*bin`   ?
[07:03] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  does your video-out port work?
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I do not have video-out
[07:04] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  so the computer that is running the projector will not be your laptop?
[07:04] <jsestri2> hi, I'm trying to install Dapper Flight 4, and it would appear the it does not have the ability to detect an onboard network device...any ideas?
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: It will be.
[07:04] <Razor-X> vladuz976: Not too sure, but I'm assuming that the source is missing a #define. Which basically means, you're either missing a library, or your source is corupt for some reason.
[07:04] <ALL4N> hey
[07:04] <livid> intelikey, yes. I understand about /*bin. thanks.
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I have VGA out.
[07:04] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  your vga port works then
[07:05] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Yes
[07:05] <Razor-X> Jestre: What's the output of ``lspci -v'' in pastebin?
[07:05] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  openoffice impress works very much like powerpoint.
[07:05] <graft> hellzo... has anyone ever had issues with NETDEV WATCHDOG?
[07:05] <jsestri2> Razor-X: are you talking to me?
[07:05] <ALL4N> I've managed to delete the original sudoer here, (I created a new one, and checked the administrative tasks in user options) and now I'm not able to do administrative tasks
[07:05] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I actually don't use powerpoint.
[07:06] <intelikey> livid no. i'm just asking why you feel that not installing gcc by default is "somehow less than a working linux" system ?
[07:06] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  neither do i :] 
[07:06] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: if you need the external vga to work, check out MergedFB. (google)
[07:06] <jsestri2> Razor-X: how do i run that command, I can't even install the os...
[07:06] <ALL4N> don't ask why, since I checked that the new user can do administrative tasks
[07:06] <_jason> ALL4N: did you delete the original sudo user or the original sudoers file?
[07:06] <ALL4N> _jason, I created a new user
[07:06] <Mantice> I was about to buy a 300 $ lap top 1.7 ghz but parents said no and its my own money!!!
[07:06] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: Though on most of my machines, if i boot with the projector plugged in, X is mirrored.
[07:06] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  do you need to compose the presentation?  or do you already have it in a different format
[07:06] <ALL4N> _jason, and then deleted the old sudoer using the new user
[07:06] <Razor-X> Jestre: Oh! Meh!
[07:06] <Madpilot> Mantice: so move out :P
[07:06] <ALL4N> somehow, the new user is no sudoer
[07:06] <Razor-X> Jestre: It refuses to install due to the network issue?
[07:07] <_jason> ALL4N: paste the output of the 'groups' command
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: That's interesting, I'll have to test that.
[07:07] <jsestri2> Razor-X: should i just skip that step? and fix it after install?
[07:07] <Razor-X> Mantice: That's quite typical of my parents.
[07:07] <Razor-X> jsestri2: Yeah.
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: But I was hoping more of a Desktop on screen0, and the actual presentation on screen1, which is controlled by ooimpress2 on screen0
[07:07] <livid> god, quit talking about your parents ruling your lives, you are making me feel old :P
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: If that makes sense?
[07:07] <jsestri2> Matice: that sucks, where were you buying it from...link? hah
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Assume I already have a presentation composed.
[07:07] <Razor-X> jsestri2: You can always try and compile a kernel module. But, I suggest you also be running Breezy.
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: I want to SHOW it.
[07:07] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: It makes sense, but i think you may be SOL.
[07:07] <amphi> livid: you are
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Windows and Mac do this fine.
[07:08] <livid> amphi, heh. and how do you know that?
[07:08] <jsestri2> Razor-X: jesus, im a dope, i already have that working, i should be able to run that command that way...jeez
[07:08] <Razor-X> jsestri2: Meh. 's fine.
[07:08] <amphi> livid: standard MO, jumping to conclusions ;)
[07:08] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  dual monitor setup like that requires xinerama i believe
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Ok.
[07:08] <livid> amphi, ;) I am only 26 :P
[07:08] <jsestri2> Razor-X: I was told that i need to get into Dapper though so that i can use sound. Breezy is apparently incompatable with my onboard audio.
[07:09] <intelikey> amphi livid's not old.....
[07:09] <jsestri2> Razor-X so run that command and pastebin it here?
[07:09] <cafuego> Arafangi1n: it's not something that X makes particularly easy or intuitive.
[07:09] <amphi> Arafangi1n: or mergeFB perhaps
[07:09] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  the way i did it was just to mirror the display, controlling the presentation from my laptop with keyboard commands
[07:09] <Razor-X> jsestri2: Dapper, at this point in time, is a little bit on the unstable side. So, caveat emptor.
[07:09] <Razor-X> jsestri2: It would help, ja.
[07:09] <livid> intelikey, you tell him. :P
[07:09] <jsestri2> Razor-X be abck in a bit
[07:09] <graft> goo... does anyone have any insights about this? my damn wireless card keeps switching access points because of "NETDEV WATCHDOG"
[07:09] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Today (Fortunately I haven't actually had to do presentations yet), my laptop reverted from doing cloned mode to strict one-monitor mode - perhaps it's to do with the second monitor being plugged in :(
[07:10] <graft> which bites... anyone ever had to deal with this?
[07:10] <odla> can someone help me with some dvd problems i'm having.  i can't seem to use the dvd player but i've got libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed...am i missing something else?
[07:10] <amphi> strewth, consider me told - I didn't realise this was #gerontophobia ;)
[07:10] <graft> odla: um, a movie player?
[07:10] <odla> graft: i've tried totem and xine
[07:10] <graft> and they say?
[07:11] <intelikey> amphi lol
[07:11] <odla> totem says 'no reason' and xine tells me that either i don't have proper permissions or that i'm missing a plugin
[07:11] <jetscreamer> odla: sometimes there is no /dev/dvd symlink to /dev/hdwhatever
[07:11] <wastrel> graft:  i had that problem, was advised to start the card driver with associate=0  argument
[07:11] <jetscreamer> odla: there is xine-check
[07:11] <ALL4N> _jason, allan adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[07:12] <graft> wastrel: err, who what now?
[07:12] <_jason> ALL4N: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[07:12] <wastrel> graft:  wifi
[07:12] <ALL4N> _jason, nothing
[07:12] <ALL4N> just a new line
[07:12] <odla> jetscreamer: thanks...i just fixed it
[07:12] <graft> wastrel: i mean... how do i start the card driver with said argument?
[07:12] <jetscreamer> how
[07:13] <thelsdj> is there some magic way to get totem-gstreamer to play dvds that i'm missing or is that just broken?
[07:13] <thelsdj> (in dapper)
[07:13] <Razor-X> Mind me if I become a tad bit... inattentive, because I'm not very used to irssi as my main client.
[07:13] <_jason> ALL4N: have you logged out and back in yet?
[07:13] <graft> wastrel: err, nm maybe i got it
[07:13] <wastrel> graft:  you can do it with modprobe or put it in /etc/modules.conf   what is your card driver?
[07:13] <jetscreamer> thelsdj: ask odla :)
[07:13] <graft> wastrel: orinoco_pci... not sure it takes such arguments
[07:14] <wastrel> yeah it depends on the driver
[07:14] <ALL4N> _jason, after deleting the original sudoer?
[07:14] <_jason> ALL4N: sure
[07:14] <thelsdj> jetscreamer: i got one of those
[07:14] <ALL4N> I can try
[07:14] <_jason> ALL4N: k
[07:15] <thelsdj> jetscreamer: /dev/dvd points to /dev/hdc
[07:15] <ALL4N> I think  I did
[07:15] <wastrel> someone had this problem yesterday, with sudoers
[07:15] <_jason> ALL4N: you probably did, I just want to rule that out before the next thing I suggest...
[07:15] <thelsdj> odla: how did you fix it?
[07:15] <wastrel> they were messing around with /etc/group and removed themelf from the admin group
[07:15] <LinuxTitan> anyone know where I can download libxine-dev(xine-lib-1.1.1)?
[07:15] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Why're ya asking?
[07:15] <intelikey> _jason which is ?    boot to single ?
[07:16] <_jason> intelikey: boot to recovery and look at /etc/sudoers
[07:16] <LinuxTitan> Razor-X, so I can download it?
[07:16] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Well, you must have a reason for using the libs. To compile an app?
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> yes.
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> but I'm not on ubuntu at the moment.
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> and I need xine-lib-1.1.1
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> and I noticed that libxine-dev from dapper drake has it
[07:17] <bimberi> !info libxine-dev dapper
[07:17] <ubotu> libxine-dev: (the xine video player library, development packages), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu2-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 512 kB
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> I'm not on ubuntu
[07:17] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: You can't obtain them from the repos? (I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment, either).
[07:17] <bimberi> LinuxTitan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> thats what I'm asking
[07:17] <LinuxTitan> what is the repos url?
[07:17] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Then go on the Ubuntu packages site, and download the package you need.
[07:18] <edward_> hi
[07:18] <intelikey> !info libxine-dev dapper
[07:18] <RichART1> wonder why its taking so long 2 hack this site?
[07:18] <ubotu> libxine-dev: (the xine video player library, development packages), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu2-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 512 kB
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[07:18] <Razor-X> intelikey: Meh, I think that's ben posted already.
[07:18] <intelikey> oh so it has   sorry
[07:18] <LinuxTitan> why do I want the info?
[07:18] <amphi> has anyone tried the ipw2200 'master mode' driver here?
[07:19] <LinuxTitan> that gives me no url to the repo
[07:19] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: Go to the website above. (http://packages.ubuntu.com/)
[07:19] <Razor-X> LinuxTitan: I suggest you read a little better.
[07:19] <wastrel> amphi:  my card uses ipw2200  - dunno what you mean by master mode though
[07:19] <intelikey> you asked where you could find that.... LinuxTitan i didn't notice that someone had already said that.
[07:19] <amphi> wastrel: aka access point mode
[07:19] <wastrel> ahh.  no i haven't done that
[07:20] <intelikey> LinuxTitan the url is in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:20] <amphi> wastrel: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9342819&forum_id=38938
[07:20] <Arafangi1n> wastrel, cafuego: Looks like that the _ONLY_ way to do it is to _mirror_, not _clone_ the screen :(
[07:20] <bimberi> jetscreamer: :)
[07:20] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  i used mirroring when i set mine up.  not sure what clone is or what the difference is
[07:21] <wastrel> amphi:  very interesting
[07:21] <bonggnu> good morning
[07:21] <papa_lic> morning
[07:21] <Arafangi1n> wastrel: Clone allows the two desktops to differ in size and refresh.
[07:21] <bonggnu> anyone has migrated from Breezy to Dapper?
[07:22] <papa_lic> shit
[07:22] <allan> _jason, can't even log back in
[07:22] <bonggnu> throw apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[07:22] <amphi> wastrel: yeah - I might give a go tomorrow
[07:22] <Arafangi1n> cafuego: Looks like that rebooting _does_ reset the dual-screen status.
[07:22] <wastrel> Arafangi1n:  ah yes,  i had to bump my lcd down to 1024x768 in order to get the projector working properly
[07:22] <papa_lic> I dont phucking understan whats the problem with estonian langugage
[07:22] <_jason> allan: what does it say
[07:22] <bonggnu> i am evaluate it
[07:23] <seth_oh`boy> I give up on trying to attempt to set up this wireless lan...
[07:23] <allan> _jason, gdm does not start, so I logged in in terminal
[07:23] <allan> _jason, and I can't restart gdm, because no sudo  :p
[07:23] <_jason> allan: erm that doesn't sound like a sudo problem anymore
[07:23] <TiG4> Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?
[07:23] <amphi> allan: does startx work?
[07:23] <Arafangi1n> wastrel, cafuego: I think I'll have to reboot into windows to do presentations. That sucks :(
[07:24] <papa_lic> guys
[07:24] <intelikey> startx should work for user    unless you are / mounted nosuid
[07:24] <wastrel> :[
[07:24] <papa_lic> can ubuntu and win be in the same pc?
[07:24] <intelikey> allan ^
[07:24] <papa_lic> simultaneously?
[07:24] <seth_oh`boy> I'm starting to like Ubuntu.
[07:24] <TiG4> papa_lic, yes
[07:24] <Madpilot> papa_lic: sure
[07:24] <TiG4> papa_lic, its called "Dual-Booting"
[07:24] <Slaj_R> When I try to use apt-get to add the jre plugin for firefox, I get "couldn't find package."  What's the best way to install?
[07:24] <papa_lic> and one can be installed after win is installed?
[07:24] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Errrr? Estonian?
[07:24] <allan> seth_oh`boy: ubuntu rocks
[07:24] <seth_oh`boy> I have Windows and Ubuntu on my computer now
[07:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell Slaj_R about java
[07:24] <intelikey> papa_lic i hope so cause they both live on this 610mb hdd   :)
[07:25] <robotgeek> seth_oh`boy: what wireless card?
[07:25] <papa_lic> Razor-X: yup
[07:25] <seth_oh`boy> ^_^
[07:25] <TiG4> Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?
[07:25] <Razor-X> papa_lic: If you want to talk about Estonian, I suggest you go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:25] <papa_lic> i  tried live-cd
[07:25] <seth_oh`boy> Broadcom
[07:25] <papa_lic> and it just stucks in default settings in estonian
[07:25] <Razor-X> This place isn't the plae to discuss Estonian, or any other language.
[07:25] <Razor-X> Not even C ;).
[07:25] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell seth_oh`boy about ndiswrapper
[07:25] <seth_oh`boy> Acer Aspire Broadcom 4318
[07:25] <papa_lic> I meant taht ubuntu in estoaninan language package  stopped at login screen
[07:26] <seth_oh`boy> I've been using ndiswrapper
[07:26] <Mordof> how do i test a screensaver?
[07:26] <seth_oh`boy> I've installed the driver and it doesn't work I think I need
[07:26] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Ah.
[07:26] <Mordof> in dapper there is no preview button
[07:26] <Razor-X> papa_lic: My bad.
[07:26] <papa_lic> yup
[07:26] <seth_oh`boy> bcmwl5a.inf and not just bcmwl5
[07:26] <papa_lic> it gives me the login screen and doe not accept any users or passwords
[07:27] <ALL4N> amphi, yes.. startx worked
[07:28] <rob__> can someone tell me how to run a excutable java jar file?
[07:28] <intelikey> but your sudo is still hosed ALL4N
[07:28] <amphi> ALL4N: cool - that's what I use generally, I don't use a ?dm
[07:28] <Mantice> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Laptops/Laptops/Other/auction-48448361.htm
[07:28] <ALL4N> intelikey, yepps
[07:28] <papa_lic> umm...does anyone know that might there be problems ubuntu live-cd + win nt 4.0
[07:28] <amphi> ALL4N: why? failure to use visudo? ;)
[07:28] <ALL4N> so now I am back to the original problem.. how to fix sudo, without any permissiosn
[07:28] <p0windah> any progress with xgl and compviz for ubuntu ?
[07:29] <ALL4N> amphi, yes, I don't have this user in the sudoers list
[07:29] <papa_lic> intelikey: the solution you gave me yesterday did not work
[07:29] <Mantice> I cant move out im like 16 where the fuck would I go... I live in country in New Zealand
[07:29] <Madpilot> papa_lic: the LiveCD doesn't touch the installed OS, so it shouldn't matter
[07:29] <p0windah> Mantice: I moved out at 17, two of my sisters did it at 16
[07:29] <intelikey> ALL4N can you boot to single user mode and add yourself to the   admin  group ?
[07:29] <_jason> ALL4N: so I suppose sudo still does not work? boot in recovery mode and make sure your /etc/sudoers looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[07:29] <Mantice> You have know idea where I live :(
[07:29] <ALL4N> intelikey, I think I am in the admin group
[07:29] <_jason> ALL4N: make sure you still are
[07:29] <Mantice> So can I move in :)
[07:30] <p0windah> Mantice: I have a very good idea, we lived in qld at the time - yes it was hard
[07:30] <intelikey> papa_lic i don't recall what i might have sujested yesterday or what it concerned ?
[07:30] <Mantice> Dude I ant leaving my computer you can come pick me up
[07:30] <TiG4> Can someone explain to me how the weather feature works in Evolution in the calendar, I already found my city and selected it but now what?
[07:30] <dhalgren> hi
[07:30] <Mantice> I have no car by the way
[07:30] <Mantice> So I will have to carry it out
[07:30] <Mantice> its a box on weeals lol
[07:30] <seth_oh`boy> I can access my windows driver from my window partion from linux, but the windows doesn't have a .inf file so do i just use another .inf file that supposely goes with the .sys file?
[07:30] <Mantice> server box :)
[07:30] <p0windah> Mantice: I'm almost 30 now, still dont have a car and work as a freelancer in HK
[07:30] <intelikey> ALL4N  type  /exec -o group    right here in your chat client
[07:31] <p0windah> Mantice: quit making excuses and whining - you sound like a pom
[07:31] <Mantice> lolz0r
[07:31] <Mantice> Hong Kong ?
[07:31] <ALL4N> sh: group: command not found
[07:31] <p0windah> yup
[07:31] <Mantice> Wow you must have the coolest animie
[07:31] <wastrel> groups
[07:31] <Mantice> :)
[07:31] <_jason> ALL4N: groups
[07:31] <ALL4N> aha
[07:31] <papa_lic> why do I need one?
[07:31] <ALL4N> exec -o groups
[07:31] <Mantice> what a shame it ant in english
[07:31] <ALL4N> sorry
[07:31] <p0windah> cars are extremely over-rated
[07:31] <concept10> I have a car for sale
[07:31] <ALL4N> allan fax tape
[07:31] <papa_lic> the public transportation system works great
[07:31] <Razor-X> Excuse me, people.
[07:32] <ALL4N> suddenly no more in the admin group
[07:32] <Mantice> Not in country
[07:32] <abcd> does canonical provide relocation ? :D
[07:32] <Razor-X> Does this have ANYTHING to do with Ubuntu?
[07:32] <Mantice> maybe i can find a horse
[07:32] <Razor-X> If not, I suggest you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:32] <dhalgren> i have installed 5.10 on an asus a5ec laptop, and it hung when stating hotplug module. got around that with help from the forum page, and have installed new alsa version as suggested, but now there is no soundcard configured. sound is hda-intel. how do i configure this card manually, please?
[07:32] <_jason> ALL4N: that's nice, heh reboot in recovery mode and do 'adduser your_username admin'
[07:32] <Razor-X> And I can only suggest, an op can do more.
[07:32] <mzuverink> TiG4: after you select your city, then restart evolution and then look at your calendar, at the top of each day youll have a temp range and a conditions forecast
[07:32] <abcd> anybody here working in canonical ?
[07:32] <Razor-X> papa_lic: You can try out an Estonian channel, if it's easier to understand.
[07:32] <intelikey> ALL4N you are in " allan fax tape "  but not admin    you will have to fix that to use sudo
[07:32] <ALL4N> _jason, you saw I was in a bunch of other groups before I logged out
[07:32] <p0windah> Razor-X: I had a meeting with the ubuntu guys in Hong Kong yesterday if thats more "on-topic"
[07:32] <_jason> ALL4N: I saw yeah
[07:33] <Mantice> p0windah is every thing cencered over there?
[07:33] <ALL4N> anyhow..  I'll go recovery mode..
[07:33] <Mantice> Or is that the grate firewall of china
[07:33] <ALL4N> thanks folks
[07:33] <_jason> ALL4N: I'll give you the list after you add yourself to 'admin' so that you can put yourself back in all of them
[07:33] <papa_lic> Razor-X: is there one?
[07:33] <Razor-X> p0windah: Nope. This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[07:33] <ALL4N> _jason, all right.. brb
[07:33] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Try #ubuntu-<two-letter-language-code>.
[07:33] <wastrel> that's the 2nd time in 2 days that's happened.
[07:33] <Mantice> This channel is the best... I think I was chating in the most restrivtive IRC chat room in the world the other day
[07:33] <wastrel> is it common for ppl to drop themselves out of admin?
[07:33] <p0windah> Mantice: HK is a special administrative zone, legal system based on common law, etc. we enjoy more freedoms than north americans right now
[07:34] <Mantice> That cool
[07:34] <_jason> wastrel: it's a bug with using the gui to give admin, I've seen it a few times and I think it's been reported as well
[07:34] <Mantice> And the high speed broadband :)
[07:34] <p0windah> we have 1Gig home service
[07:34] <papa_lic> Razor-X: no help
[07:34] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Ah, sorry :\.
[07:34] <p0windah> papa_lic: what was your question ?
[07:34] <papa_lic> looks like Im the onlyone from that country
[07:34] <zphinx> hong kong is still under the jurisdiction of the peoples republic of china isnt it?
[07:34] <TiG4> mzuverink, nope, dont see anything, will it show it on the full month view?
[07:35] <papa_lic> in estonian language package
[07:35] <p0windah> zphinx: no
[07:35] <zphinx> formosa?
[07:35] <papa_lic> the os stops at lognin screen
[07:35] <papa_lic> accepts no users nor passwords
[07:35] <zphinx> p0windah: Wasnt it given back to china not long ago?
[07:35] <Razor-X> Ugghhh..
[07:35] <mzuverink> TiG4: no just for the next week, and you have to  be in day mode, click on the box by the weather calendar
[07:35] <Mantice> Man Ubuntu is easyer than windows to install.... I wonder what would hapen if gates opened up a IRC chat room
[07:35] <Razor-X> Please take Hong Kong to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:36] <Mantice> slash Disconect
[07:36] <Razor-X> Lest you want everyone in this channel parading the rights of their own coutry.
[07:36] <p0windah> zphinx: pre 1997 it was a british colony, post it reverted back to China, but to maintain economic and political relationships, china allowed Hong Kong to become a "special administrative region" - whereby it basically governs itself
[07:36] <zphinx> oh
[07:36] <TiG4> mzuverink, yeah im in day mode, still dont see it, wierd
[07:36] <robotgeek> p0windah: zphinx please use #ubuntu-offtopic, really
[07:36] <intelikey> Mantice one thidr of the peopel in here would become 'script kiddies'     llllll
[07:37] <Mantice> script kiddies :S I rather code from scratch
[07:37] <p0windah> papa_lic: what'd you do to break it ?
[07:37] <mzuverink> Mantice,: I just got done installing Win Xp on a box here at home to do online banking, it took 6 hours between install and updates, installing av and everything else, meanwhile I made 4 vm on another box and upgraded thenm all
[07:37] <nonick> Mantice what did u break ?
[07:37] <Mantice> Mantice broke nothing
[07:37] <Mantice> hes asking me
[07:37] <Mantice> so you better help me
[07:37] <Mantice> lol
[07:37] <papa_lic> p0windah: didint break it
[07:37] <Arafangi1n> mzuverink: You need winxp just for internet banking?
[07:38] <papa_lic> got live-cd from post
[07:38] <Mantice> Use linux
[07:38] <papa_lic> inserted it into cd-rom
[07:38] <Arafangi1n> mzuverink: Which bank? Mine goes fine in firefox on linux.
[07:38] <papa_lic> and it just halts
[07:38] <papa_lic> tried every possible way
[07:38] <Mantice> some script kidey might steal your password and buy a laptop :)
[07:38] <mzuverink> Arafangiln: yes, actually my linuxphobe wife needed ti
[07:38] <Madpilot> papa_lic: have you tried other liveCDs? Sometimes you get bad CDs, or they've been scratched in the mail
[07:38] <p0windah> papa_lic: livecd or install cd ?
[07:38] <papa_lic> live-cd
[07:39] <papa_lic> it was a 5-pack
[07:39] <mzuverink> Arafangiln: Portland Federal Credit Union and SeaFirst bank
[07:39] <papa_lic> 5 sets
[07:39] <papa_lic> you think it might be just the one cd?
[07:39] <_jason> I'm gonna go, if ALL4N comes back, someone link him to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9039 which has his group list.  Thanks
[07:39] <Arafangi1n> mzuverink: I guess the computer came with it, or you could've raised the $400 cost issue.
[07:39] <papa_lic> tried other set on different pc and did the same shit
[07:39] <intelikey> Mantice ssshhh
[07:39] <p0windah> papa_lic: and you've tried pulling out the cd and carefuly cleaning it ?
[07:39] <p0windah> papa_lic: thats probably because the CD is roasted :)
[07:40] <TiG4> mzuverink, could you take a screenshot of what your talking about?
[07:40] <intelikey> Mantice i need a new lappy.....
[07:40] <wastrel> can't firefox lie about the user-agent?  that might get you into sites that check for IE
[07:40] <papa_lic> p0windah: so you think that I should order another 5-pack?
[07:40] <mzuverink> Arafangiln: actually the machine did not come with XP, it came out of the junk pile at the computer store by my house and the XP came from Emule
[07:41] <p0windah> papa_lic: clean it first, try again and then try to boot from another linux livecd(like madpilot suggested) - then think about ordering another pack
[07:41] <Mantice> Bad cd's happen so do bad ISO's .... its sad
[07:42] <Mantice> I downloaded 4.7 fedora core 4 dvd only to have it no validate on install
[07:42] <Mantice> :(
[07:42] <Mantice> and I have a 3 gb cap for the month
[07:42] <papa_lic> so you guuys think that the halt at login screen is not coding error but just some dirt on cd??
[07:42] <spikebike> mantice
[07:42] <spikebike> might have been a bad burn
[07:42] <Razor-X> papa_lic: Posibly.
[07:42] <spikebike> md5sum your ISO
[07:42] <Razor-X> *Possibly.
[07:42] <papa_lic> hmmz
[07:42] <papa_lic> ok
[07:42] <spikebike> and rsync if it's off
[07:42] <concept10> Anyone know about sessions?  (The .dmrc file in your home directory)
[07:42] <Razor-X> papa_lic: MD5SUM it, reburn it, and try it on a different machine.
[07:43] <papa_lic> where the heck do they limit download size?
[07:43] <Madpilot> papa_lic: it might be; it could also be a bug with your language version
[07:43] <mzuverink> TiG4: I dont have evolution, I use Sylpheed and Claws, but I tried it before I dumped it. But if you go to calendar, you will see on the right side a list of cal's, personal, birthdays and weather, check the box by weather and make sure personal is checked then got to day veiw, look at tomorrow and see the top of the day, the weather should be there
[07:43] <Mantice> I ant going with fedora core any way so :P
[07:43] <Mantice> Ubuntu = Gnome or the other one or somthing lol
[07:43] <Mantice> KDE
[07:44] <Razor-X> Mantice: It uses Gnome as a default WM, yes.
[07:44] <Razor-X> I don't use Gnome, though.
[07:44] <intelikey> Ubuntu = Gnome     kUbuntu = kde
[07:44] <mzuverink> TiG4: is it there?
[07:44] <Mantice> I use KDE at work not that i work much no more
[07:44] <Mantice> Gnome good ?
[07:44] <Mr_Eko> Hi
[07:44] <TiG4> mzuverink, in day view, you say look @ tomorrow
[07:44] <vladuz976> does ubuntu already have the new xorg?
[07:45] <TiG4> mzuverink, i can only see today
[07:45] <Mantice> More people in chat room so I guess its good
[07:45] <intelikey> but you can run 'nome on kubuntu  or kde on ubuntu   so it's just the default install packages
[07:45] <TiG4> mzuverink, and personal and weather are checked
[07:45] <Razor-X> Nor do I use KDE, heh.
[07:45] <Mantice> I went to the other website and it looked crapier i think so i went with ubentu
[07:45] <Mr_Eko> I'm getting started with Ubuntu and i would like to install kde
[07:45] <Razor-X> You can also try out ``Xubuntu'' for XFce.
[07:45] <TiG4> mzuverink, lemme show you what i have
[07:46] <mzuverink> TiG4:on the month view on the right side, click the next day
[07:46] <Mr_Eko> i already tried the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but it doesn't do a thing
[07:46] <intelikey> Mr_Eko sudo apt-get kdebase
[07:46] <intelikey> Mr_Eko sudo apt-get install kdebase
[07:47] <mzuverink> TiG4: installing EEvolution go to #mzuverink
[07:47] <Mr_Eko>  Package kdebase has no installation candidate
[07:47] <intelikey> kdebase - KDE Base metapackage      <--- it does here....
[07:47] <Mr_Eko> where can i paste the complete error message?
[07:48] <Mantice> Are you guys feeling ok... You guys dont have the world domination thing going today.
[07:48] <intelikey> !pastebin
[07:48] <timfrost> !paste
[07:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:48] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:48] <intelikey> Mantice ?
[07:48] <Mantice> Wrong chat
[07:48] <Mantice> Yeah
[07:49] <Mantice> Ubuntu-offtopic for the win :)
[07:49] <Mr_Eko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9040
[07:49] <ALL4N> _jason, works perfectly now  :)  thanks
[07:49] <Mantice> I was hooked on linux when i saw the screen savers... The rubix cube is 1337
[07:49] <ALL4N> _jason, I added all the groups using the GUI
[07:49] <Mantice> brb dinner
[07:49] <Mr_Eko> it's a fresh install
[07:50] <Mr_Eko> apart from all the hacks to make the wi-fi adapter work
[07:50] <intelikey> !repos
[07:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:50] <intelikey> Mr_Eko ^
[07:51] <liskl> anyone heard of a system info program that overlays the text about system status on the desktop transparently?
[07:52] <wastrel> liskl:  there's a couple ways to do that... gdesklets  maybe
[07:52] <liskl> thanks agian wastrel
[07:52] <intelikey> liskl hmmm sounds like eye candy gone to seed,   but hey i'm on console-only  so what do you expect from me...
[07:52] <well> go bash
[07:53] <intelikey> ok
[07:53] <liskl> lol intelikey
[07:53] <intelikey> i really do have things to do,,,, while it's quiet in here.
[07:53] <Mr_Eko> it's done
[07:54] <intelikey> cjul8r
[07:56] <Mr_Eko> now it's even worse
[07:56] <Mr_Eko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9041
[07:56] <concept10> The fade out password prompt in Dapper needs to be changed back !
[07:57] <phillipc> how can I find out what package provides a certain file?
[07:57] <wastrel> phillipc:  apt-file i believe
[07:57] <stevenj> does anyone know if GTK 2.7 will be added back to dapper before release?
[07:58] <wastrel> phillipc:  for files on your system
[07:58] <timfrost> phillipc, 'dpkg -L <file>' if the package is installed. apt-file (from universe) will search the repositories
[07:58] <Mr_Eko> shit
[07:58] <Mr_Eko> don't know what to do
[07:58] <wastrel> heh i had it backwards
[07:59] <Mr_Eko> already did everything in the howto
[07:59] <stevenj> anyone work as a Information Security Officer?
[08:00] <skon> is it possible to install dapper live to hdd?
[08:00] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: you might have messed up sources - can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:00] <Mantice> back
[08:01] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: what's an information security officer? security engineering? (IT)
[08:01] <hd> yes
[08:02] <Mr_Eko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9042
[08:03] <wastrel> yikes
[08:03] <stevenj> _lemsx1_, some companies may call it chief security officer-its basically a position that is the network "watchdog"
[08:03] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: it's not working because you've got a really messed up sources.list
[08:04] <Mr_Eko> what should i do?
[08:04] <Mr_Eko> erase it?
[08:04] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: have a look at this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[08:04] <Mr_Eko> ok
[08:04] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: i work as a security engineer, but i'm not a senior security engineer (which might be what you called "chief"). i'm a network and company-wise (IT) watchdog :-)
[08:05] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: your current sources.list has everything commented out except Universe, no wonder apt-get couldn't find anything
[08:05] <Mr_Eko> ok... so, i copied everything into my sources.list
[08:06] <robinl1> augh
[08:06] <robinl1> i dont feel so good
[08:06] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: save it, run "sudo apt-get update", then try your isntall again
[08:06] <Madpilot> *install, even...
[08:07] <Mr_Eko> Thanks
[08:08] <Madpilot> Mr_Eko: np.
[08:08] <LoRd-Phr3x> Hi, has anyone installed XGL and compiz on Dapper Drake, with out an onboard graphics card?
[08:08] <LoRd-Phr3x> i mean with an onboard graphics card *
[08:08] <_lemsx1_> LoRd-Phr3x: I have done that with a Intel card
[08:08] <LoRd-Phr3x> sorry women problems, not thinking straight :p
[08:08] <_lemsx1_> _lemsx1_: i810 driver
[08:08] <Mr_Eko> _lemsx1_, and how does it behave
[08:09] <_lemsx1_> LoRd-Phr3x: you should drink some beer then ;-)
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> did you need to install any new drivers?
[08:09] <_lemsx1_> Mr_Eko: slowish, but usable
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> haha, might have a cc and dry later
[08:09] <stevenj> _lemsx1_, I see well I have a senior systems admin for about 7 years; however, recently I assumed the additional respon. of ISO...just wondering if any here are in that position..so many questions :)
[08:09] <_lemsx1_> LoRd-Phr3x: no new drivers
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> a little pot and some solo will do me fine for now
[08:09] <Mr_Eko> if i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, can  i go to sleep and just wait?
[08:09] <LoRd-Phr3x> nice, did you have any troubles with it?
[08:10] <brydenn> k i have a wine problem... i deleted my c drive on accident
[08:10] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: ok. i'm sure there are a lot more of us here ;-)
[08:10] <brydenn> i was messing around in winecfg
[08:10] <brydenn> can anyone helP?
[08:10] <magenet> is ubuntu better thna fedora and mandrake?
[08:10] <var> read this: http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html
[08:10] <whitynz> of course magenet
[08:10] <p0windah> magenet: atleast 23% better
[08:10] <var> that might help
[08:10] <_lemsx1_> magenet: by a mile ;-)
[08:11] <p0windah> magenet: some have even argued for 24%
[08:11] <concept10> offtopic: has anyone seen those new Volkswagen commericals?  The ones with the little black toy figure?
[08:11] <concept10> They crack me up
[08:11] <LoRd-Phr3x> .rpm's suck :p
[08:11] <magenet> hmm
[08:11] <whitynz> magenet: you are asking a fairly biased group :p
[08:11] <LoRd-Phr3x> or .rpm based distros
[08:11] <magenet> im trying to decide
[08:11] <magenet> what distro to use
[08:11] <magenet> im on mepis linux right now
[08:12] <magenet> i just ordered some ubuntu cds ;p
[08:12] <_lemsx1_> whitynz: i agree. but most of us have already suffered with other distros
[08:12] <LoRd-Phr3x> go for breezy, or try out the new Dapper Drake 6.04
[08:12] <whitynz> _lemsx1_: heh yeah
[08:12] <magenet> breezy is ubuntu right?
[08:12] <whitynz> it is'
[08:12] <LoRd-Phr3x> yeah, it's the latest stable relase
[08:13] <magenet> its that what they pack on cd right?
[08:13] <_lemsx1_> magenet: one flavor of ubuntu... other is dapper, other is hoary... etc...
[08:13] <magenet> >< god ill use breezy then
[08:13] <magenet> lol
[08:13] <magenet> sounds easier ;p
[08:13] <liquidindian> magenet:  I'm rubbish, and I'm doing okay with ubuntu.
[08:14] <liquidindian> make of that what you will.
[08:14] <wastrel> i'm sleepy
[08:14] <magenet> heh
[08:14] <magenet> ill see what happens when it gets here
[08:14] <Mr_Eko> _lemsx1_, where did you download the opengl drivers for intel 910?
[08:15] <_lemsx1_> Mr_Eko: intel 810 i said... the drivers are the regular mesa stuff
[08:15] <_lemsx1_> Mr_Eko: go into #xgl-ubuntu and type: ?? working
[08:15] <_lemsx1_> Mr_Eko: you will see the list of cards that work
[08:15] <stevenj> _lemsx1_, what would you do if an employee was banned from a blogging website and then posted all of IT are Nazis? Let it go or take this employee out?  Have you ever had a situation like this?
[08:16] <robotgeek> stevenj: offtopic, please?
[08:16] <mebaran151> I'm in dapper and neither my clock nor firefox work on AMD64?  Is this normal?
[08:16] <mf988> hello
[08:16] <mebaran151> and could anyone file a bugreport for me
[08:16] <mebaran151> as I don't have a webbroswer in which I am comfortable now
[08:16] <mf988> trying to modify a bootimg.bin (bootable floppy image)
[08:17] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: depending on the policies of the company. most companies have a zero tolerance for stuff like that... which means that he or she must be let go
[08:17] <Madpilot> mebaran151: install Opera :P
[08:17] <mf988> 1) what is the equivalent of rawrite in ubuntu ?
[08:17] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: if there is no policy, then one should be written for the next time
[08:17] <robotgeek> _lemsx1_: please, offtopic. stevenj
[08:17] <mebaran151> Madpilot: this actually gives me a good excuse to install it
[08:17] <mf988> 2) how can I 'rawrite' to a virtual floppy (I don' t have any physical floppy)
[08:17] <mf988> ?
[08:17] <_lemsx1_> stevenj: yep. offtopic :-)
[08:17] <mebaran151> could some one please check in the bug repo whether or not this issue is known
[08:17] <mebaran151> ?
[08:18] <brydenn> can someone please help me with WINE?
[08:18] <liquidindian> Can the archive manager deal with rar files split into parts?
[08:18] <timfrost> mf988, dd - use 'dd if=<file> of=/dev/fd0' to write the file to floppy in drive 0 (MSDOS A:)
[08:18] <stevenj> _lemsx1_,  heh
[08:19] <[nige] > anyone know how to configure exim4 and mailscanner
[08:19] <mf988> timfrost: except I don't have a floppy... (hardware)
[08:19] <timfrost> mf988, what do you mean 'virtual floppy'?
[08:20] <mf988> timfrost: I am on a laptop - no physical floppy
[08:20] <jack|ass> Has anyone gotten a dlink DWL-G520 to work in Ubuntu?  It sees the card and can see my WAP, but isn't able to pull an address.  It looks like it's having tx/rx errors.
[08:20] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : that usually involves spliting the in and out queues and adding some headers checking with "access" or one of those files
[08:20] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : you should do some googling... lot of reading
[08:20] <thelsdj> mf988: why do you need to rawrite if you don't have a floppy?
[08:20] <[nige] > _lemsx1_, i have split exim with the in and out queues but it didnt seem to read any of the mail
[08:21] <[nige] > _lemsx1_, the only think i find are the same guides
[08:21] <mf988> thelsdj: I need to modify a file in the bootimg.bin, then put it back together
[08:21] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : perhaps because is very simple to do ... that's why there are no more guides
[08:21] <monzie_> hi all
[08:21] <[nige] > _lemsx1_, i guess it was simple i would have got it working already :P
[08:21] <thelsdj> mf988: mount -o loop bootimg.bin /media/floppy
[08:22] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : i use postfix with mailscanner and i did just that. split the queues. tell postfix to HOLD messages in the in.queue if they have been received (header)
[08:22] <pepsi> what is the `adm` group.. GID 4
[08:22] <mf988> thelsdj: tx! will try
[08:22] <pepsi> is that short for admin or something?
[08:22] <pepsi> im guessing no
[08:22] <thelsdj> pepsi: i think adm is allowed to view logs
[08:22] <thelsdj> pepsi: yes it is short for admin
[08:22] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : and then tell mailscanner to pick messages from that queue and put it in the local delivery queue, where your mail server will then push it where it belongs
[08:22] <thelsdj> not sure what else its allowed to do
[08:22] <[nige] > okay
[08:22] <pepsi> thelsdj, i want to give myself permission to run synaptic
[08:23] <[nige] > means i have to go through the mailscanner.conf again
[08:23] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: adm and admin are 2 different beasts
[08:23] <[nige] > :S
[08:23] <pepsi> should i create a new group?
[08:23] <pepsi> and then chgrp synaptic to that?
[08:23] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: just add yourself to "admin" and use "sudo"
[08:23] <pepsi> i dotn want to use sudo
[08:23] <pepsi> :P
[08:23] <pepsi> i want permissions outright
[08:23] <_lemsx1_> [nige] : yes. i guess you just need to configure mailscanner now
[08:24] <[nige] > i thought i did
[08:24] <[nige] > :)
[08:24] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: change the uid of your user to 0 ;-)
[08:24] <pepsi> nah
[08:24] <pepsi> i dont ned that much
[08:24] <mf988> thelsdj: how can I make that device read/write (loopback)
[08:24] <mf988> ?
[08:24] <[nige] > i know i have specified both in and out going queues
[08:24] <thelsdj> pepsi: you could possibly setuid synaptic and make sure only group is allowed to execute it (and add yourself to that group)
[08:24] <thelsdj> pepsi: i would create new group for it
[08:24] <wastrel> pepsi synaptic will have to read & write package lists and download/install packages
[08:24] <thelsdj> mf988: not read/write by default?
[08:24] <pepsi> there is staff
[08:25] <pepsi> but it is a low id as well.. 60
[08:25] <mf988> thelsdj: well, the BOOTIMG.BIN is already on a loopback mounted .ISO
[08:25] <Mantice> this is creepy http://www.xpde.com/shots.php
[08:25] <[nige] > going to look back at the queues again.
[08:25] <thelsdj> mf988: copy it somewhere?
[08:25] <pepsi> i think ill use staff though
[08:25] <pepsi> seems appropriate
[08:25] <mebaran151> does anyone else have any trouble with the gnome clock
[08:25] <thelsdj> mf988: you'll have to recreate the iso then
[08:25] <mebaran151> I'm on AMD64, and it refuses to start
[08:26] <thelsdj> can't write to an iso
[08:26] <mf988> thelsdj: ok, will search
[08:26] <mf988> thelsdj: tx
[08:26] <_lemsx1_> pepsi: staff is junior admin... good
[08:26] <Mr_Eko> how do i install the drivers for the intel 910 graphic cards
[08:27] <sanjay> any site for utilities like in windows ... i am new to this
[08:27] <Madpilot> sanjay: there are masses of utilities included in Ubuntu - what did you want to do?
[08:27] <sanjay> like how do i connect to yahoo messenger pl
[08:27] <thelsdj> sanjay: gaim
[08:27] <liskl> anyone know a way to use php from a web page to exec a .sh?
[08:28] <Madpilot> sanjay: Applications menu --> Internet --> gAIM
[08:28] <wastrel> liskl:  what's the php equivalent of system() ?
[08:29] <_lemsx1_> liskl: like a cgi-bin ?
[08:29] <sanjay> madpilot: thanks
[08:29] <wastrel> liskl:  actually, i don't know whether it's possible
[08:29] <sanjay> i will just check
[08:29] <Dasnipa`> liskl, execute a shell script from php? sounds like a security exploit i hope its not possible
[08:29] <_lemsx1_> liskl: i agree with wastrel, unless there is a system() call on the script itself (if you own the script that is)
[08:29] <wastrel> i doubt the web server will have access to the shell binary
[08:30] <thelsdj> probably exec()
[08:30] <thelsdj> liskl: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.exec.php
[08:31] <magenet> Liskl: if you use cpanel it lets u open ssh and exexecute .sh files from the php panel
[08:31] <sanjay> madpilot : thanks i am through with yahoo
[08:32] <monzie> hi all
[08:32] <monzie> i have a problem with my hdparm output
[08:32] <prada> anyone know if there is a repository serving beagle-0.20 anywhere ?
[08:32] <monzie> hdparm -i /dev/hda gives:
[08:33] <monzie> RawCHS 16383/16/63
[08:33] <monzie> and
[08:33] <liskl> thanks everyone, thelsdj helped most - there is a exec(); thanks man
[08:33] <monzie> CurrCHS  4047/16/255
[08:33] <thelsdj> prada: dapper has 0.2.1 i think
[08:34] <cafuego> it doth
[08:34] <prada> thelsdj: I am using dapper ... but let me check again
[08:34] <thelsdj> installing it now myself as i haven't tried beagle since installing ubuntu heh
[08:34] <liskl> building a way to send data over a serial connection for x10 devices
[08:34] <thelsdj> prada: its in universe
[08:34] <cafuego> Don't bother with beagle on breezy.
[08:35] <thelsdj> ya i am on dapper
[08:35] <cafuego> But do ensure you have a LOT of free ram ;-)
[08:35] <prada> do an apt-cache show ... it still shows me beagle_0.1.4
[08:35] <cafuego> !info beagle dapper
[08:35] <ubotu> beagle: (indexing and search tool for your personal data), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 740 kB, Installed size: 2368 kB
[08:35] <cafuego> That's odd.
[08:35] <cafuego> prada: ANyway, http://www.cafuego.net/ubuntu
[08:36] <prada> sweet ... thanks
[08:36] <thelsdj> cafuego: hrm, i was going to say is 1gb of ram enough? but then i remember i also run azureus which eats a few hundred mb heh
[08:37] <cafuego> thelsdj: I have 1.5GB and beagle isn't above eating 1GB
[08:37] <cafuego> thelsdj: i have a *huge* index, though.
[08:37] <thelsdj> hah hrm i've got ~350mb free right now (including cached)
[08:37] <prada> i thought the mem hogging was a lot less in 0.20 ..
[08:38] <wastrel> i have 768 MB - need to upgrade
[08:38] <cafuego> prada: it is a lot less to begin with, but not agter 14 days.
[08:38] <znelson> does anyone know about IPVS support in breezy? I thought it was in the kernels since 2.6.10 but apparently not
[08:39] <thelsdj> i have 2 work machines on my desk with 4gb of ram each hehe, my 1gb seems measly
[08:39] <Mantice> You should all join ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> does anyone have openbox ?
[08:39] <cafuego> znelson: ipvs?
[08:39] <znelson> linux virtual server
[08:39] <thelsdj> znelson: which virtual server? i never heard of ipvs
[08:40] <cafuego> znelson: Oh yeah, it's in recentish kernels. Certainly in 2.6.12 I think (breezy)
[08:40] <znelson> www.linuxvirtualserver.org
[08:40] <wastrel> someone go to http://fridge.ubuntu.com/  in firefox & tell me if the page is rendering correctly?  i get a row of tabs in the middle of the flight4 announcement
[08:40] <znelson> hmm cause when I download the admin package, the installation says there's no support in the kernel
[08:40] <znelson> bummed me out
[08:40] <cafuego> wastrel: looks fine
[08:40] <Mantice> renders fine
[08:41] <Mantice> Get latestst firefox
[08:41] <Mantice> I notest that mozilla has load of bugs
[08:41] <Mantice> for rendering
[08:41] <prada> cafuego: the beagle deb includes support for wv1 etc. ?
[08:41] <thelsdj> znelson:  may not be enabled in the ubuntu kernel, have you cross referenced the .config file setting with a kernel that does have it?
[08:42] <znelson> thelsdj: I'm a relative newb, so no.. but will do that now
[08:42] <wastrel> me g'night
[08:42] <thelsdj> znelson: you apt-get install ipvsadm?
[08:42] <znelson> yeah
[08:43] <Mantice> how come http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ has people in there underware and ubuntu.com has none?
[08:43] <thelsdj> znelson: you might need to modprobe some modules
[08:44] <znelson> ok..
[08:44] <thelsdj> znelson: look in /boot/config-2.6.12* IPVS stuff sure seems to be enabled
[08:44] <Madpilot> Mantice: because The Fridge is cooler
[08:44] <znelson> checkin
[08:45] <Mantice> lol
[08:45] <thelsdj> znelson: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ipv4/ipvs
[08:45] <Mantice> If the fridge is cooler why would they have to take there clothes off
[08:45] <cafuego> Mantice: They're hot!
[08:46] <thelsdj> the fridge page is messed up in my firefox
[08:46] <thelsdj> the tabs show up at the bottom of the first page
[08:46] <Mantice> Well it looks hotter in ubuntu.com and colder in fridgeub . . ....
[08:46] <Mantice> This is kinda off topic but its ok as long as no ones asking questions
[08:47] <znelson> weird .. cause the package install gives me:
[08:47] <znelson> Setting up ipvsadm (1.24+1.21-1) ...
[08:47] <znelson> Kernel does not support IPVS!
[08:47] <liquidindian> Is "underware" some sort of jargon for a program that removes clothing?
[08:47] <thelsdj> znelson: modprobe ip_vs then try reinstalling it
[08:47] <Mantice> Yes
[08:48] <znelson> cool
[08:48] <thelsdj> znelson: just a guess, may not work
[08:48] <znelson> hmm i think i need to remove then reinstall it
[08:49] <Mantice> i might get an iPod later on in life when I have money
[08:49] <Mantice> so i can put linux on it
[08:49] <thelsdj> znelson: try dpkg-reconfigure ipvsadm
[08:49] <thelsdj> or something like that
[08:49] <spikebike> linux doesn't work on new ipods
[08:49] <znelson> ya
[08:49] <lockhead> how do i check how much disk usage i have?
[08:49] <ndlovu> hi all, I accidentally deleted a wiki database while trying to back it up (don't ask...). It seems that on an ext3 filesystem undelete is just about impossible. But are there tools that will let you search through freed inodes for the text that was in the files?
[08:50] <intelikey> lockhead df
[08:50] <ndlovu> lockhead: df -h
[08:50] <intelikey> df -h
[08:50] <intelikey> du /
[08:50] <Mantice> format C:
[08:50] <intelikey> du -s /
[08:50] <Mantice> Busts out windows commands ;)
[08:50] <lampshade> Is there a way to make gnome show previews of images in the basic file open dialog for programs?  I want to select images, but I have no idea since some of them are just long strings of random characters.  A preview would be awesome
[08:50] <Mantice> dont try my idea
[08:51] <ndlovu> lockhead: df = disk free; -h = human readable (it gives it to you in bytes, not blocks)
[08:51] <intelikey> there's no C: in linux  so it's ok to try that...
[08:51] <Mantice> lol
[08:51] <znelson> thelsdj: modprobe did the trick .. thanks
[08:51] <elkbuntu> Mantice, i had myself in tears when i tried doing something in dos the other week and tried linux commands :D
[08:51] <elkbuntu> tears of laughter of course.
[08:52] <lockhead> i would have tears of sorrow since i had to use dos
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:52] <[nige] > where are mailscanner logs kept?
[08:52] <thelsdj> hrm so now i have beagle installed, how to put it to good use, bah gotta do my fstab
[08:53] <intelikey> [nige]  did you look in /var/log?
[08:53] <[nige] > yep looking through it at the moment
[08:54] <ndlovu> okay, is there some way to get a list of free but non-empty inodes on an ext3 filesystem?
[08:54] <intelikey> [nige]  did you  man mailscanner  ?
[08:54] <Mantice> Any one know any thing about SINA school firewall?
[08:54] <[nige] > hmmm
[08:54] <[nige] > i have been readin through a few guides,
[08:54] <[nige] > not sure if i have manned it yet
[08:55] <intelikey> well i've never used mailscanner but that is where i'd start.
[08:55] <fojackedddolt> blooh, i suck at IRC, is anyone here able to help me with a couple questions?
[08:56] <Mantice> maybe irc
[08:56] <Madpilot> fojackedddolt: please just ask
[08:56] <Mantice> we ant going to kill you
[08:56] <Mantice> ..
[08:56] <Arafangi1n> Is it possible to read ext3 filesystems in windows?
[08:56] <Arafangi1n> Surely someone has made a driver by now.
[08:56] <Mantice> i think theres a bug in my room
[08:56] <intelikey> "free but non-empty" ? ndlovu
[08:56] <thelsdj> Mantice: GET BACK ON TOPIC! heheh
[08:57] <Mantice> What happend if the bug got me?
[08:57] <hatake_kakashi> Mantice: call the poison's hotline, not here
[08:57] <fojackedddolt> ohkay, sorry. I just installed Ubuntu, and it got my monitor settings wrong... I think I fixed it, under in the xorg.conf but the only problem now is... how to i save?
[08:58] <intelikey> Arafangi1n sure.   e2explorer or something like that
[08:58] <ndlovu> intelikey: I have to admit I'm not too clued up on how the filesytstem works, but basically I'm wanting to search through the data that's on one of my partitions, but not associated with existing files
[08:58] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Thanks.
[08:58] <ndlovu> intelikey: somebody on google suggested "grep /dev/hda1", but I don't know if there's a better way
[08:58] <Arafangi1n> What is a good partition format to use for a large removable storage device?
[08:59] <Arafangi1n> ext3 is a pain because of permissions and all that, but fat32 has file size issues.
[08:59] <intelikey> ndlovu what are you looking for ?
[08:59] <ndlovu> I deleted a mediawiki db, and I'm looking for the text that was contained in one of the pages
[09:00] <ndlovu> intelikey, I should be able to remember enough to get a grep match
[09:00] <intelikey> then grep and use -B  and -A   for before and after the match lines    man grep for details
[09:01] <ndlovu> thanks intelikey, I'll see how that goes
[09:01] <Mantice> I got the bug
[09:01] <Mantice> dont worry
[09:01] <Mantice> im safe
[09:01] <spikebike> I'd write down the 3 longest words on that page
[09:01] <Mantice> stupid cricket creeping around my computer
[09:01] <spikebike> then grep the partition for them and write down the blocks they are in
[09:02] <intelikey> if you put several linse before and several after  you can pipe to less and viola (assuming there is a match)
[09:03] <yggdrasil> helloguys im trying to figure out how to do something i need to use gcc3.4 and im doing a make menuconfig and im getting a ton of errors
[09:03] <jacquesmerde> why wont synaptic allow me to mark nvidia-settings AND nvidia-glx for installation?
[09:04] <tburman> 'lo
[09:04] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:04] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:04] <intelikey> yggdrasil ^
[09:04] <ndlovu> spikebike: also not a bad idea (if grep outputs the block number). will try that if the before / after method fails
[09:04] <yggdrasil> ok
[09:04] <yggdrasil> thanks gents
[09:04] <yggdrasil> ill give it a try
[09:05] <yggdrasil> ok thats better but im still getting some errors after a bit
[09:06] <intelikey> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[09:06] <intelikey> put your errors there ^
[09:06] <yggdrasil> shoot um
[09:06] <yggdrasil> im using dsl right now and i cant figuree out how to copy pste
[09:06] <yggdrasil> :(
[09:06] <overrider> hello, ubuntu seems not to have the verdana font. any way i can get it and install it? thanks...
[09:06] <yggdrasil> both mouse buttons doesnt work
[09:07] <whatwhat> what ftp clients do you ussually use on linux guys?
[09:07] <intelikey> highlight and where you want to paste  dubble button (middle)  click
[09:07] <yggdrasil> its ok im gonna give it a break for the night
[09:07] <yggdrasil> thanks though guys
[09:08] <intelikey> whatwhat do a apt-cache search ftp       or synaptic   or aptitude
[09:08] <Davey|Laptop> anyone know how well the Apple Mightmouse works on Linux?
[09:09] <intelikey> i like ncftp  myself.
[09:09] <Davey|Laptop> Mighty Mouse
[09:09] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: Probably the same as any mouse.
[09:10] <whatwhat> intelikey ok i will try it thanks
[09:10] <simpsonianbanana> hi
[09:10] <simpsonianbanana> this might sound pretty stupid, but how do I install a deb file?
[09:10] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, it has the scroll ball though, I doubht X can handle that :/
[09:10] <intelikey> whatwhat you may be a 'gui' user,  gftp may be more to your liking.
[09:11] <intelikey> simpsonianbanana sudo dpkg -i
[09:11] <simpsonianbanana> thanks
[09:11] <simpsonianbanana> what about a cpkg file?
[09:11] <simpsonianbanana> same do?
[09:12] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: It can.
[09:12] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: Oh, did you say *ball*?
[09:12] <intelikey> add the file path and name to that of course....
[09:12] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, yes
[09:12] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, it can scroll in any direction
[09:12] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, its an optical mouse, the scroll wheel, is a ball, so it can scroll in any direction
[09:13] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: Oh, well, at worst I'd imagine that it'd only be able to work in the up-down direction.
[09:13] <Mordof> im in Dapper Drake, how do i get out of X???
[09:13] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, which defeats the point of buying a $60 mouse ;)
[09:13] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Ctrl+Alt+F1 through to F12, F7 is generally what X runs on.
[09:13] <Mordof> ive tried killing gnome-session, tried killing xorg, tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop, nowthin works
[09:13] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: k
[09:13] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: I like the MS or Logitech mice myself.
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> Arafangi1n, I did, but I just lost my last set :/
[09:14] <Arafangi1n> Davey|Laptop: I like the irony of the MS Hardware often working better and nicer than their software - and it's a software company ;)
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> actually, I hate MS mice
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> they feel flimsy
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> but I love my Logitechs
[09:14] <httpdss> Mordof: to restart X ..... crtl+alt+bksp
[09:14] <Davey|Laptop> I'm just not willing to pay $130 for a rechargable "desktop" solution
[09:14] <intelikey> Arafangi1n should we start specifying 'left' ctrl alt  on that command ?    cause right alt is for tty 13-24 you know ?
[09:15] <overrider> to get verdana i have to install a package called msttcorefonts , right? can someone please tell me how to do that? via the gui synaptic package manager?
[09:15] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: I've just suddenly realised that I've _never_ used the right alt key!
[09:15] <Mordof> httpdss: doesnt work, brings me back into gnome
[09:15] <Mordof> i want to kill X
[09:15] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Except for that one time I needed it for qemu...
[09:15] <Mordof> i need to get out of it entirely
[09:15] <intelikey> :)
[09:15] <simpsonianbanana> how do I install a .cpkg?
[09:16] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Do what I said, then login in the console, then issue gdm stop.
[09:16] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: oh ok
[09:16] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: I don't know what you've been doing, but that _WILL_ stop it.
[09:16] <intelikey> Mordof that will be out of x    right alt + ctrl + f1    puts you in tty1
[09:17] <intelikey> sorry left
[09:17] <intelikey> ha
[09:17] <intelikey> my other right
[09:17] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Looks like the left and right alts make no difference (here, at least)
[09:17] <intelikey> Arafangi1n go to console and try
[09:17] <jacquesmerde> anyone here succeeded in installing nvidia binary drivers on dapper flight4?
[09:17] <brosioz> why the fonts of all gtk application are more smaller than other in kde ? i've try to set all to 12 but doesn't works
[09:18] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: that doesnt stop it at all
[09:18] <intelikey> right alt + f7   wont take you back to gui
[09:18] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: It ignores the right alt, so presumeably it does work, just that there's no getty
[09:18] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: i need to get out of it
[09:18] <intelikey> no it doesn't Arafangi1n
[09:18] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: i cant even stop it from inside the console while logged in, stopping gdm doesn't work at all for me
[09:18] <p0windah> brosioz: gtk is 96 methinks, kde try to scale to your mon.
[09:18] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: What did you end up when you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[09:19] <brosioz> p0windah: so what can i do ?
[09:19] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: in cli, but then when i went to f7 again it was still loaded
[09:19] <thelsdj> hrm anyone know how to get inotify permissions on dapper for beagle?
[09:19] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: im trying to load xgl.. and i need all X and gnome to not be running
[09:19] <p0windah> brosioz: send an email to upstream gnome and kde and ask them to both use the same method ?
[09:19] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Ok, hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace after you do the configuration for xgl
[09:19] <intelikey> Arafangi1n i meant no it doesn't ignore it  ^
[09:20] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: ive got it all ready to go in a script to run, i just cant seem to get rid of X or gnome
[09:20] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: It does ignore it in the sense that _nothing_ happens ;)
[09:20] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Something is very wierd on yours.
[09:21] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: i know, i need another method to get out of it
[09:21] <jacquesmerde> why is the nvidia-settings package necessary for the nvidia binary driver???
[09:21] <Arafangi1n> Mordof: Well, let's get to basics. Do you even use GDM?
[09:21] <Mordof> Arafangi1n: if dapper uses it by default, then yes
[09:21] <intelikey> Mordof go to a console like you were told,  and do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop "
[09:22] <simpsonianbanana> Hello? Can someone help me with a cpkg file?
[09:22] <robinl1> cpkg?
[09:22] <whatwhat> intelikey yes that :p thanks
[09:22] <intelikey> in the sense that _nothing_ happens <--- well yeah  but open high number ttys and it isn't ignoring it at all.  it just cant switch to /dev/null
[09:22] <robinl1> you mean dpkg
[09:22] <robinl1> ?
[09:22] <thelsdj> hrm is inotify patch not in the default dapper kernel?
[09:22] <simpsonianbanana> nope, cpkg
[09:22] <robinl1> cpkg?
[09:23] <simpsonianbanana> yes
[09:23] <robinl1> don't know cpkg
[09:23] <robinl1> i know my own package system, but not cpkg
[09:23] <robinl1> :S
[09:23] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Semantics, it's all about semantics dude :)
[09:23] <robinl1> oh.. now that i think about it
[09:23] <robinl1> need to work on appwev
[09:23] <robinl1> need to work on appweb*
[09:23] <simpsonianbanana> It's a cedega engine update
[09:23] <robinl1> hmmm
[09:23] <robinl1> sorry, can't help ya
[09:24] <simpsonianbanana> oh well, thanks anyway
[09:24] <robinl1> you're welcome :)
[09:24] <MAB> zup
[09:24] <intelikey> maybe there is a howto on the cedega site ?
[09:24] <ivaneeo> Wudi:hihi
[09:24] <JustinLei> WUdi:Hell~~
[09:25] <MAB> How are people doing today?
[09:25] <Wudi> wa .
[09:25] <Wudi> hey,,
[09:25] <sixslap> hello
[09:25] <MAB> chillin
[09:25] <sixslap> like a villian
[09:26] <MAB> thinking about either drinking coffee and not sleep or drink water and sleep LOL
[09:27] <sixslap> say umm can anyone tell me why my ident wont work
[09:27] <sixslap> ?
[09:27] <robinl1> idents suck
[09:27] <simpsonianbanana> Okay, it neede to be installed from within cedaga
[09:27] <robinl1> :o
[09:27] <sixslap> yesterday it worked today it wont
[09:27] <simpsonianbanana> thanks everyone
[09:27] <robinl1> so does ubuntu, haha, jk <expects to be kicked>
[09:28] <sixslap> yeah idents suck
[09:28] <Arafangi1n> Damn this is hard.
[09:28] <robinl1> i'll go gaming
[09:28] <robinl1> i want to game
[09:28] <robinl1> i want to game
[09:28] <robinl1> ;D
[09:28] <MAB> :)~
[09:28] <robinl1> too bad for ya guys, i'm switching 2 windows, latah
[09:28] <sixslap> yeah ta ta
[09:28] <MAB> windows is for old ladies and little girls
[09:29] <Arafangi1n> How do I format a partition such that three situations hold true: (1) Must allow large file support, such as 10G, (2) Must work with the gnome-volume-manager by default, and (3) MUST NOT ENFORCE PERMISSIONS
[09:29] <intelikey> to bad for us he says.... heh
[09:29] <sixslap> have a good litte tea party bloake
[09:29] <robinl1> MAB: Yes i know but i need my games.
[09:29] <Assassin5> when I run a shell script, is there a way to show the line numbers, or the source while processing so I can debug it?
[09:29] <robinl1> MAB: GUNBOUND! RAGNAROK ONLINE! GUNZ ONLINE! ;D
[09:29] <MAB> I hear you Robin
[09:29] <robinl1> good :p
[09:29] <robinl1> this will be your last warning.
[09:29] <intelikey> Arafangi1n you don't
[09:29] <robinl1> bye :P
[09:29] <Arafangi1n> I do not want permissions on this, it's too much a deal when sharing it between my computers.
[09:29] <MAB> but a computer is not a gaming system
[09:30] <robinl1> yes it is - for most people
[09:30] <robinl1> it rocks for gaming.
[09:30] <MAB> that is what Playstations are for
[09:30] <robinl1> AND computers
[09:30] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: So, how the heck am I meant to share this drive between my computers?
[09:30] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: fat32?
[09:30] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: I can't write a file more than 4 GB
[09:30] <robinl1> some really good games have been placed on the computer
[09:30] <MAB> I guess so but extreme games should be left for Xbox and Play Station
[09:30] <robinl1> take gunbound, ragnarok, gunz!
[09:30] <simpsonianbanana> hey again, I have ye olde rage 128, are there any drivers for it? I can't find them on the ATI site..
[09:30] <intelikey> with 10g file  and no perms   not a chance that i know of Arafangi1n
[09:30] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: And nethack :)
[09:31] <robinl1> Arafangi1n: can that be played online? O_O
[09:31] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: Yes, actually
[09:31] <robinl1> Arafangi1n: how?
[09:31] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: 'telnet nethack.alt.org' ;)
[09:31] <robinl1> any graphical clients?
[09:31] <Arafangi1n> robinl1: Yes, but not for that server.
[09:31] <intelikey> hackslab.something used to do that too
[09:31] <robinl1> hmm
[09:32] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: you've got individual files that're 4Gb+?
[09:32] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: Yes.
[09:32] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: DVD rips, or what?
[09:32] <Micksa> anyone want a dapper bug report/
[09:32] <Micksa> ?
[09:32] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: qemu disk images.
[09:32] <Madpilot> Arafangi1n: wow :P
[09:32] <Arafangi1n> Madpilot: But my .tar backups can easily exceed that anyway.
[09:33] <simpsonianbanana> Hello? anyone know of a rage 128 driver?
[09:33] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Ok, the alternative is how do I enforce a umask for that particular volume, such that permissions are always 777?
[09:33] <Arafangi1n> simpsonianbanana: rage is ati, isn't it?
[09:33] <simpsonianbanana> yes
[09:33] <Madpilot> simpsonianbanana: not sure there is one, but try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:34] <simpsonianbanana> thx
[09:34] <Arafangi1n> simpsonianbanana: I think that site also mentions various cards, and what to use the opensource driver for, and the commercial drivers for.
[09:34] <intelikey> Arafangi1n could run a cron job to chmod things every hour or something
[09:34] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Not acceptable.
[09:34] <intelikey> because ?
[09:35] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: There is no way I'm going to have a cronjob run to reset the permissions of 10000 files in the middle of a lecture while I'm on battery power.
[09:36] <intelikey> so this is all on a lappy eeh ?
[09:36] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: It gets shared amongst my computers.
[09:36] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Which is why I want it to work with gnome-volume-manager by default, because I don't want to spend hours configuring everything.
[09:37] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: But most of the time it stays with my laptop.
[09:39] <intelikey> and it's not acceptable to use dd and break files that are over 4g into sections ?
[09:39] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: I suppose that at a pinch, I could live with just dedicating the removable drive with the laptop, but that's a pain.
[09:39] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: No, because qemu can't read them!
[09:39] <vincenz> Anyone have a solution over amsn, half of my messages don't get through
[09:40] <vincenz> (for msn)
[09:40] <Arafangi1n> intelikey: Though, I wouldn't use dd for that, I'd use "split", but that's a digression ;)
[09:40] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I use jabber, with an msn transport.
[09:40] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: does it support http_proxy for all protocols?
[09:40] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Yes.
[09:40] <vincenz> .O
[09:40] <vincenz> gaim doesn't for instance
[09:41] <ndlovu> intelikey: I've had some success with grep, output to a text file, which I then open with less; but for some reason the character set gets corrupted, and after a while, all text comes out like this:  . actually my whole terminal session gets corrupted. any idea why?
[09:41] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: psi does, but that's qt
[09:41] <vincenz> psi?
[09:41] <vincenz> jabber?
[09:41] <vincenz> can't find either in synaptic
[09:41] <intelikey> yeah i've got a few.....  lol
[09:42] <intelikey> but i'll keep them to my self
[09:42] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Jabber is a protocol, psi, gaim, gabber, et al are all clients
[09:42] <vincenz> a
[09:42] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: but hmm..I need the msn protocol
[09:42] <odat> anyone know the command to use to see what ip address my router is giving my computer
[09:42] <vincenz> and gaim doesn't do proxying
[09:42] <vincenz> gabber is non existent in synaptic
[09:42] <vincenz> and amsn dropps half my messages
[09:42] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Jabber has a notion of "transports", and the servers themselves do the proxying for you.
[09:42] <vincenz> o.O
[09:42] <thelsdj> ndlovu: if you don't want to look at the binary data just run 'strings' on the file
[09:43] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: no I need http-proxying to get past my firewall
[09:43] <CyPhEr__> hey guys i have a little prob
[09:43] <ndlovu> thelsdj: does that strip the binary data out?
[09:43] <hatake_kakashi> vincenz: then you need http-tunnel
[09:43] <vincenz> hatake_kakashi: yes
[09:43] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Try: sudo apt-get install psi
[09:43] <CyPhEr__> anytome i open something like network settings it looks like its opening and then nothing happens and then it closes
[09:43] <intelikey> ndlovu a grep -ve <put offending char here>  to cut out the code that breaks your termcap maybe ?
[09:43] <CyPhEr__> please help
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> vincenz: google around, you may find some
[09:44] <vincenz> hatake_kakashi: ...
[09:44] <vincenz> hatake_kakashi: amsn does it, it just drops half my packets
[09:44] <ndlovu> thelsdj, intelikey: strings seems to be doing the trick :). Probably grep > strings > file would work best?
[09:44] <vincenz> half the messages I type I get "there was an error sending the following message:" ...
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> vincenz: well you can get things like your-freedom or something
[09:45] <CyPhEr__> anyone
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: So, does that command work?
[09:45] <thelsdj> ndlovu: you could also do strings|grep > file
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: You will need to enable universe.
[09:45] <thelsdj> but ya grep|strings > file will work
[09:45] <intelikey> ndlovu like  grep -ve'' file | grep -ve'' | less       Repete the second grep portion as many times as needed....
[09:45] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: I checked out the package, I'd like to know first if it supports http-proxying
[09:45] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: run that application in command line, if you can't see any output, set verbose messages on
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Heck, it supports http polling.
[09:45] <CyPhEr__> ok first time user
[09:45] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: But I'll have to check up on that again to figure out how to do that.
[09:46] <CyPhEr__> y cant i just click
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: you know how to open Terminal right?
[09:46] <CyPhEr__> yes
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: open that, and type in the command to start that networking..
[09:46] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: so I can contact my regular msn account and talk to other msn peoeople from my friends list with that?
[09:46] <CyPhEr__> i still should be able to click and configure
[09:46] <intelikey> but you are still likely to get garbage. ndlovu    if it were something you could just re down load i'd say why bother with hacking that .....
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Actually, now that I think of it, gaim _does_ allow proxies.
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: In what sense do you need a proxy?
[09:47] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: all data must go over the proxy
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: gaim does support that.
[09:47] <vincenz> that's why I have a perl script for my ssh
[09:47] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: nope
[09:47] <odat> anyone know the command to use to see what ip address my router is giving my computer
[09:47] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Ok, so you're not just talking about a mere squid proxy, right?
[09:47] <ndlovu> intelikey: thanks, but there's one file in particular that I've spent a few hours constructing. it's just text; the rest I can construct again
[09:47] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: squid?
[09:48] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: even my ssh connection must go over this proxy
[09:48] <vincenz> it's not just for outward port 8
[09:48] <vincenz> 80
[09:48] <vincenz> it's for all ports
[09:48] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: if you are going to be that stubborn, then you won't get much to help you
[09:48] <vincenz> "I connect to the initernet using a proxy server: HTTP (Post Method)" is my option in amsn
[09:48] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I'm looking at my gaim "Modify Account" window, and I'm reading "Proxy Options"
[09:48] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it doesn't do it
[09:49] <CyPhEr__> i mean you jsut expect something to work first time i dont want to have to go the the term everytime i wana change something
[09:49] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: It's there.
[09:49] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it's not sufficient
[09:49] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: username/password isn't enough?
[09:49] <intelikey> odat ifconfig  if no one answered you yet
[09:49] <vincenz> I don't need a login
[09:49] <vincenz> I need the HTTP (Post Method) option and it's not available in gaim
[09:49] <vincenz> trust me, I've tried
[09:49] <vincenz> it doesn't work
[09:50] <intelikey> vincenz using it over tor ?
[09:50] <simpsonianbanana> still found nothing for rage 128's
[09:50] <vincenz> intelikey: no, company proxy
[09:50] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Hmm, well psi definetly supports HTTP "Connect", and HTTP Polling.
[09:50] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it's http post
[09:50] <vincenz> that's the method I need
[09:50] <vincenz> whatever that means
[09:51] <vincenz> I'm a networking newb, but I know that it doesn't work with gaim
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Gaim probably uses "Connect" as well.
[09:51] <vincenz> ...
[09:51] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: I tried, it doesn't work
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Give polling a go, with psi.
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I'm just about to check it myself.
[09:51] <vincenz> what is polling?
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: afaik, it polls a http file.
[09:51] <vincenz> I don't need to poll anything
[09:52] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Continuously. It's a hack, but it gets past lame firewalls/proxies.
[09:52] <Mantice> You know how to get past our SINA firewall
[09:52] <vincenz> for ssh, for instance, it opens a pipe to the webproxy server and pipes all dat athrough it
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: and I presume you are using dapper aren't you?
[09:54] <agabus> does anyone know if ftp.iinet.net.au is mirroring the dapper drake fight 4 iso's?
[09:54] <CyPhEr__> Dapper= adapter
[09:54] <Mordof> question: i have a script that exits X. how do i make it login with a username and password i want?
[09:54] <CyPhEr__> and yes a cisco
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:55] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Well, other than that, I don't know.
[09:55] <CyPhEr__> newest 5.10
[09:55] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: It is an alternative, and it should work.
[09:56] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: for Gaim when I enable proxy it sais "Access denied: proxy server forbids port 1863 tunnelling"
[09:56] <CyPhEr__> i just go to system and then network setup or like time and date and loginscreen i get it start to launch the little spinning logo goes and then the little indicaor goes away and nothing
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: did you download anything from the universe repos?
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> universe/multiverse
[09:57] <CyPhEr__> i cant get in on the net at all
[09:57] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: Yup, it's blocking the port.
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: check your router, firewall
[09:57] <tburman> anyone else have a problem with totem not playing any media at all?
[09:57] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: it works finie with msn
[09:57] <tburman> mp3, video, whatever
[09:57] <Crazyhobbit> moinsen
[09:57] <vincenz> Arafangi1n: don't you get it, Gaim doesn't use the proxy in the correct way
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: you need gstreamer + w32plugins
[09:57] <Crazyhobbit> whats wrong here? :)
[09:57] <Arafangi1n> vincenz: I'm saying psi will get past it.
[09:57] <CyPhEr__> did and i stil doesnt explain why i can not open the time and everything
[09:58] <vincenz> I'll look into it
[09:58] <_keroppi_> I'm trying to get the fglrx driver working, but X windows says it can't find the module. I just had this working fine in Debian unstable, now I've installed ubuntu dapper...
[09:58] <hatake_kakashi> _keroppi_: dapper = unstable
[09:58] <_keroppi_> hatake_kakashi: Yeah I know that
[09:58] <_keroppi_> I have this file: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so, and X says it's can't find the fglrx module when it tries to start
[09:59] <hatake_kakashi> _keroppi_: doesn't mean literally that if debian's unstable worked, ubuntu's unstable will work
[09:59] <Mordof> _keroppi_: linux-restricted-modules has flgrx
[09:59] <hatake_kakashi> CyPhEr__: well I don't know, there are no buttons to make it show debug messages without typing a few lines
[09:59] <_keroppi_> Mordof: What is that? A package?
[09:59] <Mordof> _keroppi_: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:00] <cyblivious> need your help guys, everytime i mount/access any ntfs partitions, the mouse mouse freezes every few seconds or becomes jerky. What could be the problem?
[10:00] <CyPhEr__> k welll ill be back on im reinstalling
[10:00] <CyPhEr__> wipe and reload
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: why not sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ?
[10:00] <Mordof> hatake_kakashi: *shrugs*, whats the difference
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> cyblivious: check dmesg
[10:00] <_keroppi_> Mordof: That just removed some openoffice stuff and kept gcc and g++ back...
[10:01] <cyblivious> dmesg?
[10:01] <Mordof> _keroppi_: :|
[10:01] <Mantice> can I install ubuntu in a usb hard drive?
[10:01] <Mordof> _keroppi_: i dunno then
[10:01] <_keroppi_> Mordof: What was it supposed to do? Same as apt-get -f install?
[10:01] <Mantice> ...Loading?
[10:01] <Boglizk> My splashscreen changed to Edubuntu and the font on the desktop aswell
[10:01] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: heh afaik for putting `` it quotes bash to open up that other command as well.. such as ls -al /usr/src/`uname -r`
[10:01] <Boglizk> weird
[10:01] <Mordof> hatake_kakashi: ohh
[10:02] <Mantice> No one installed ubuntu on a USB hard drive?
[10:02] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, gstreamer 0.8 as it comes is ok?
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> _keroppi_: doubt it
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: what do you mean its 'ok'?
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> cyblivious: dmesg = kernel messages
[10:02] <Sputn1k> Hello, i'm playing one windows game with wine, but there is no fonts, how to add them?
[10:03] <leleobhz> i have installed my ubuntu from hoary (5.04)
[10:03] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, well, I read a forum post that suggested 0.8 was outdated
[10:03] <Boglizk> Automatic has the windows fonts
[10:03] <intelikey> cyblivious run top and then do the mouse trick and watch to see if the reason shows itself
[10:03] <Boglizk> *Automatix
[10:03] <leleobhz> (a cd from shipit)
[10:03] <Madpilot> Sputn1k: install the MS core fonts
[10:03] <Madpilot> !automatix
[10:03] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:03] <leleobhz> i can make a dist upgrade to Breezy?
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: well it works here afaik, and it seems to be available in the repos as well
[10:04] <Sputn1k> Madpilot, i have them, maybie i should connect them with wine, or womething?
[10:04] <Sputn1k> *something
[10:04] <Madpilot> leleobhz: yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> !tell Boglizk about automatix
[10:04] <Boglizk> i got it
[10:04] <leleobhz> thanks Madpilot !
[10:04] <Madpilot> Sputn1k: no idea about wine - never had to use it
[10:04] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, ok. will try installing w32plugins. is there a separate repository for them?
[10:04] <Sputn1k> oh... ;-/ thanks.
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> !tell tburman about !mp3
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> !tell tburman about mp3
[10:05] <intelikey> Mantice no i haven't installed on a usb drive but i see people in here all the time that have.   it can be done but there are some special considerations,  search the forums  for usb drive  and see if there isn't some help there.
[10:05] <Boglizk> I have some problems, My splashscreen changed to Edubuntu and the font on the desktop changed aswell, i think it was since i updated something with Synaptic
[10:05] <tburman> hatake_kakashi, thanks
[10:05] <hatake_kakashi> tburman: np
[10:07] <leleobhz> Madpilot: have some problem if i have package universe?
[10:07] <davide> hi all
[10:07] <leleobhz> source
[10:07] <chx> if I do a dist-upgrade to Dapper and things do not work out,  can I downgrade?
[10:07] <davide> I have a prob
[10:07] <davide> I cannot hear any CD audio with gnome-cd
[10:07] <davide> but CD drive does work
[10:07] <Boglizk> check the volume?
[10:08] <davide> and I can listen with other progs
[10:08] <davide> Boglizk, volume is ok
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> chx: no
[10:08] <jetscreamer> backup your system first and kinda
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> davide: you can hear normal sounds from Gnome but not from cd right? you are missing an audio cable that wires from cdrom to your soundcard
[10:09] <davide> hatake_kakashi, no
[10:09] <davide> I can hear with another prog to listen to CD
[10:09] <davide> [dcd] 
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[10:09] <chx> thanks.
[10:09] <davide> hatake_kakashi, I opened my case too and the cable there is
[10:10] <hatake_kakashi> davide: maybe those two use different soundserver I think
[10:10] <davide> the mixer shows me OSS and ALSA
[10:10] <davide> both are non-mute for CD's
[10:10] <Flash> Does anyone know where the "Terminal" is in Ubuntu v5.10?
[10:10] <davide> applications --> accessories
[10:10] <hatake_kakashi> Flash: Applications > System Tools
[10:11] <cyblivious> intelikey: i run top then mounted the ntfs. the gam_server appeared with the most cpu utilization
[10:11] <davide> hatake_kakashi, what can I try?
[10:11] <Flash> Ahh... Accesories!  Thank you davide
[10:12] <leleobhz> last ask
[10:12] <davide> Flash, the termins is in system tools too :)
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> davide: hmm.. nfi, which program cannot play the music from the cd?
[10:12] <Chameleon> anyone know if wineX is free
[10:12] <leleobhz> i can use debian-marillat on ubuntu?
[10:12] <davide> gnome-cd
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> Chameleon: check their site
[10:12] <overrider> when i have a .deb file (in my case i got the skype.deb package). what is the command to install it?
[10:12] <Chameleon> ok if i knew ther site i would
[10:12] <davide> overrider, dpkg -i <file>
[10:13] <hatake_kakashi> Chameleon: that's where google is your friend
[10:13] <Chameleon> lol
[10:13] <overrider> davide, thank you
[10:13] <Madpilot> leleobhz: not recommended
[10:13] <davide> overrider, you need sudo if you are not root
[10:14] <davide> overrider, however use the graphical package manager
[10:14] <Chameleon> NO google is my home page
[10:14] <leleobhz> Madpilot: some alternative?
[10:14] <davide> don't download crappy packages god-knows-where
[10:14] <leleobhz> i just want w32codecs and mplayer
[10:14] <Madpilot> !tell leleobhz about w32codecs
[10:14] <hatake_kakashi> mplayer is from multiverse repo
[10:14] <Madpilot> leleobhz: mplayer is in Universe, I think
[10:15] <hatake_kakashi> !tell leleobhz about multiverse
[10:15] <catoblepa> hallo, does anyone know a channel about VPN?
[10:15] <davide> hatake_kakashi, any idea?
[10:15] <leleobhz> hmmm
[10:15] <gary__> Can anyone tell me how to make the cdplayer the default application when i insert an audio cd?
[10:15] <leleobhz> its very good
[10:15] <leleobhz> :] 
[10:15] <hatake_kakashi> davide: haven't tried gnome-cd, hang on
[10:16] <leleobhz> thanks guys
[10:16] <Madpilot> leleobhz: thank the bot, it does most of the actual work around here :P
[10:16] <leleobhz> :] 
[10:16] <leleobhz> is someone dont operate the bot, it is unuserfull
[10:16] <leleobhz> :] 
[10:16] <hatake_kakashi> davide: lol, seems like gnome-cd has got very minimal configurations, hmm not sure.. maybe run the program through terminal and if necessary add verbose output?
[10:18] <turtlesoup> Hi, i just managed to get ubuntu installed on my fujitsu tablet pc. I however have no GUI, what can i do to fix this? I only have CLI
[10:18] <gary__> Can anyone tell me how to make the cdplayer the default application when i insert an audio cd?
[10:18] <leleobhz> Madpilot: i have removed my sources.list
[10:18] <pingy> Hello, all
[10:18] <leleobhz> and put from the url
[10:18] <leleobhz> pray for me :] 
[10:19] <ndlovu> intelikey, thelsdj: thanks for the suggestions earlier, grep and strings worked amazingly well! (grep -B -A --binary-files=text "search expression" /dev/hda9 | strings > lostfiles.txt)
[10:19] <leleobhz> (i ve maked dist-upgrade on debian 3x, all times im unhappy)
[10:21] <turtlesoup> is there something that i can run from Apt-Get that will repair my failed installation of ubuntu?
[10:22] <davide> hatake_kakashi, no --verbose / -vv or similar in gnome-cd --help
[10:23] <turtlesoup> i only have CLI after ubuntu network install, how can i get my GUI?
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> davide: wait.. I can sort of see why, are you on breezy and have you installed gstreamer?
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[10:23] <davide> I'm on 5.10, I don't remember if it's named breezy
[10:24] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: thanks :)
[10:24] <Madpilot> davide: yeah, 5.10 = Breezy Badger
[10:24] <hatake_kakashi> davide: yeah it is breezy, dapper is 6.10 I think
[10:24] <hatake_kakashi> davide: now.. do you have gstreamer installed?
[10:24] <Madpilot> hatake_kakashi: 6.04
[10:24] <davide> I don't know if I have gstreamer [I'm looking] 
[10:24] <hatake_kakashi> Madpilot: ahh ok, my bad
[10:24] <hatake_kakashi> davide: dpkg --list| grep gstreamer
[10:24] <davide> I have a lot of gstreamer
[10:25] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: it says,  unknown initscript. /etc/init.d/gdm not found
[10:25] <hatake_kakashi> davide: try and set the debug output of gstreamer under gnome-cd
[10:25] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: are you sure you have install ubuntu-desktop or?
[10:26] <hatake_kakashi> s/install/installed
[10:26] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: i used a thing called INSTLUX on top of windows to pull this off, then used network install
[10:26] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: well.. did you apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[10:26] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: you helped me yesterday, my screen name was tortoise
[10:27] <davide> hatake_kakashi, I've written debug level 2, here the output
[10:27] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: no, didnt know i had too
[10:27] <davide> ** (gnome-cd:23691): WARNING **: Could not contact CDDB server
[10:27] <davide> WARN  (0x82839e8 - 316809:26:14.163320000)       GST_SCHEDULING(23691) gstpad.c(3255):_invent_event: needed to invent a DISCONT 0x8078b60 (time 0) for cdparanoia:src => q:sink
[10:27] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: ahh, you had that tablet pc I presume right?
[10:27] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: yes :)
[10:27] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: at least now i have SOMETHING ubuntu on it :)
[10:27] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: well wb :) you might want to get ubuntu-desktop. 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' that should get literally all the requirements I think
[10:28] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: thanks alot ! i will try
[10:28] <hatake_kakashi> davide: hmm that gstream warning seems interesting, yet I cannot interpret fully
[10:28] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: np
[10:29] <davide> If i write level 3 I get a loooot more
[10:29] <hatake_kakashi> ok, you may need pastebin this time round if there is alot more :)
[10:29] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: a large list scrolled by, now i am back at CLI. did it work?
[10:30] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: I presume there was a yes or no at the bottom, if it did asks that, its only because there is alot to install, and for that case I would say yes
[10:30] <overrider> sorry i have one more question: when i run dpkg -i skype.deb to istall it, it errors out due to dependencies. is there a switch i can use to recursive install all the required stuff?
[10:31] <hatake_kakashi> overrider: that's where apt-get comes into play
[10:31] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: no question came up, just dropped me back at CLI
[10:31] <ygueron> Hello  there everyone.
[10:31] <overrider> hatake_kakashi, but apt-get install skype.deb doesnt work of course
[10:31] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: hmm, what was the last line being mentioned before dropping back to CLI?
[10:31] <hatake_kakashi> overrider: apt-get install skype
[10:31] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: E:Broken Packages
[10:32] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: hmm.. Dapper or Breezy?
[10:32] <overrider> hatake_kakashi, im sure i tried that, doesnt find anything..wil try again right now though
[10:32] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: breezy
[10:33] <ygueron> Question : After apt-get update how can I choose to list a package ?
[10:33] <stjepan> hi
[10:33] <hatake_kakashi> overrider: if not, there are some other repos out there (not part of official ubuntu/etc) but may work, however if things break, you are pretty much on your own
[10:33] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: odd
[10:33] <hatake_kakashi> ygueron: you can't
[10:33] <overrider> hatake_kakashi, ok, so apt-get install skype tells me the same thing about missing dependencies...
[10:33] <stjepan> I always have to manually run kdm/gdm :(( why? any ideas?
[10:33] <hatake_kakashi> ygueron: correction apt-cache search <name>
[10:33] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: this install has been very tough, i probably messed it up eral good :)
[10:33] <overrider> hatake_kakashi, i will try to find a good tutorial about apt-get
[10:33] <davide> hatake_kakashi, http://phpfi.com/103279
[10:34] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: there probably is a way, I presume you did not edit the sources.list ?
[10:34] <davide> hatake_kakashi, synaptic
[10:34] <takku^> i'm trying to use remote desktop from my windows computer to ubuntu with xming.. and it gives me te login screen at start but after login in it gives orange screen for few minutes and then goes back to start login screen
[10:34] <davide> ops
[10:34] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: no, i did not
[10:34] <davide> overrider, synaptic
[10:34] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: is there a way i can tell it to just go and download verything and update it?
[10:35] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: that is what I am not too sure of myself I'm afraid
[10:35] <turtlesoup> hatake
[10:35] <turtlesoup> oops
[10:35] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: thanks anyway!
[10:35] <davide> turtlesoup, pardon, no package in synaptic
[10:35] <ygueron> hatake_kakashi, Thanks Hatake
[10:36] <turtlesoup> <----confused
[10:36] <hatake_kakashi> ygueron: np
[10:36] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: np, hmm there has to be a way though.. maybe search the forum whilst you are on elinks/lynx ? :)
[10:36] <davide> overrider, http://tntmax.com/content/view/176/60/
[10:37] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: i will look
[10:37] <hatake_kakashi> davide: that will take sometime for me to analyse, I'm not too sure about this whole thing either.. which reminds me, is there a channel for gstreamer or something?
[10:38] <davide> i don't know, /list-ing
[10:38] <davide> hatake_kakashi, oh yes :)
[10:38] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: is elinks/lynz a website?
[10:38] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: no, its console internet browser
[10:39] <hatake_kakashi> doesn't support images however :) and no mouse support afaik on ubuntu
[10:39] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: how will that help? i have my desktop that works. maybe i misunderstood?
[10:39] <overrider> davide, hey thanks. though i thought it would be easier than that. like on other systems it can download and install dependencies automatically. i thought apt-get would do that too
[10:39] <hatake_kakashi> davide: do you have esound installed? dpkg --list| grep esound
[10:39] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: ahh I thought you were chatting on the console via irssi and on that tablet
[10:39] <davide> overrider, you can read here too http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=42942
[10:40] <turtlesoup> hatake-kakashi: LOL, i dont know how to do that yet :)
[10:40] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: ahh ok.. well I assumed too much :)
[10:40] <davide> hatake_kakashi, yes
[10:40] <turtlesoup> hatake
[10:40] <turtlesoup> giuves me too much credit
[10:40] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: well.. at least you have desktop to surf the internet, so that's better than nothing
[10:41] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: true, but i dont know how to check things to see where i went wrong
[10:41] <hatake_kakashi> davide: hmm, because I can see this thing requires both gstreamer and esound?.. there is one odd thing.. last time I tried getting gstreamer or something, it said that it will have to remove esound as a result. I said yes and the package for esound was uninstalled.. hmm
[10:41] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: ah ok
[10:42] <davide> hatake_kakashi, I haven't manually installed esound or gstreamer
[10:42] <davide> I'm in a fairly standard installation
[10:42] <davide> [I've installed yesterday] 
[10:43] <stjepan> what a cool osx video: http://www.williamhughes.net/mac_amd.avi btw whats that moving windows in osx?? :-o
[10:43] <frederik_> hi there, i just installed ubuntu on my acer latop. i was wondering how i can set the refreshrate higher of the videocard? its only option is 60
[10:43] <stjepan> I would like to have that feature in ubutnu too :0
[10:43] <stjepan> :)
[10:43] <frederik_> do i need to alter a file?
[10:43] <davide> frederik_, vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:43] <frederik_> ty
[10:44] <davide> however only make number you are sure about
[10:44] <davide> s/make/write/
[10:44] <frederik_> smake write? is that for me too?
[10:44] <davide> frederik_, yes
[10:44] <frederik_> yes, i know 70 is ok in windows
[10:44] <davide> try change there
[10:44] <frederik_> what do u mean with that?
[10:45] <davide> s = substitute
[10:45] <bencho> hi
[10:45] <davide> it was a correction of the previous sentence
[10:45] <frederik_> oh vim controls, i see :) ty
[10:45] <davide> vim / sed / etc etc etc
[10:46] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: what is the command to reinstall all the GUI stuff?
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> davide: not quite sure I'm afraid, you may need to try and ask the gnome-devs or gstremer-devs
[10:46] <davide> hatake_kakashi, already asking
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: reinstall all the GUI stuff? hmm
[10:46] <davide> :)
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> davide: ahh ok
[10:46] <davide> tnx anyway
[10:47] <hatake_kakashi> davide: np, couldn't help much though
[10:47] <davide> hatake_kakashi, another question
[10:47] <davide> do you know how to change the resolution ... I have edited xorg.conf like I was accostumated
[10:47] <davide> but no changes ...
[10:47] <davide> gnome use a different conf file?
[10:48] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: maybe apt-get install xserver-xorg ?
[10:48] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: i just realized that i was using network install, and it stopped at one point, so i inserted my ubuntu CD, that i downloaded for my P4 box. i think is it i686, this tablet is a P3, could that be problem?
[10:48] <thegladiator> i changed firefox's theme
[10:48] <hatake_kakashi> davide: imo, I think gnome relies on xorg config file, maybe you need to logout and log back in again?
[10:48] <thegladiator> its not working anymore
[10:48] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: it is working on something :)
[10:49] <davide> hatake_kakashi, already done ^_^'''
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: it shouldn't be anyway
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> davide: and didn't work? -_-
[10:49] <davide> no
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> hmm..
[10:49] <hsm> -_-..
[10:49] <thegladiator> hey I changed the FF theme and now its not working anymore
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> well, its beyond my knowledge again I'm afraid
[10:50] <davide> argh ... :-\
[10:50] <thegladiator> error comes up saying some program exception and "do you want to send this error repot stuff"
[10:50] <davide> nor me
[10:50] <hatake_kakashi> :)
[10:50] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: i certainly appreciate all your help
[10:50] <davide> I'm wmaker person ;P
[10:50] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: np
[10:51] <hatake_kakashi> davide: ahh yes I messed with that once or twice, its not bad but a bit awkward to use at times :)
[10:51] <davide> for me it's the opposite :)
[10:52] <hatake_kakashi> davide: heh I can imagine
[10:52] <turtlesoup> how do i shutdown and restatr from the CLI? i tried help, but i must be doing it wrong
[10:52] <Boglizk> Does anyone have an idea how my splashscreen changed form ubuntu to edubuntu?
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: shutdown and restart which app?
[10:53] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: i just want to restart the whole machine
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> Boglizk: you probably got edubuntu themes or something by accident
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: init 6
[10:54] <Boglizk> hatake: yeah thats probably it.. i dled some GNOME themes yesterday
[10:54] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: i just type init 6 ?
[10:54] <davide> turtlesoup, man shutdown too
[10:54] <turtlesoup> cool ! thanks guys !
[10:54] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: imo that should work, if not reboot I think also works or something
[10:54] <davide> shutdown -P I think
[10:55] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: that worked :)
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> but init 6 sets up the initialisation mode to 6 which is usually reboot
[10:55] <thegladiator> can someone tell me what shud I do  ? FF 1.5 in my system , I installed some   theme and the borwser is not working any more
[10:55] <thegladiator> i need browser very much!
[10:55] <Boglizk> uninstall the theme
[10:56] <turtlesoup> davise: thanks
[10:56] <thegladiator> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[10:56] <turtlesoup> davide: thanks
[10:56] <zebraFusion> thegladiator, if you can't launch firefox, you want to try 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[10:56] <thegladiator> zebraFusion, its 1.5
[10:56] <turtlesoup> hatake_kakashi: i see the ubuntu splash screen, everything seemed fine, now i am back at CLI
[10:57] <Boglizk> thanks for the help, i'm out
[10:57] <Unicorn_Giggles> anyone know how to turn a .svg file into a .xpm for the application icon?
[10:57] <Semle> Hi, anyone know how big the default installation is on 5.10 ?
[10:57] <Madpilot> Semle: about 1.8Gb
[10:57] <davide> turtlesoup, de rien
[10:57] <thegladiator> Madpilot, i m getting this error in FF /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[10:57] <Semle> Madpilot: thanks
[10:57] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: AFAIK you can use SVG for icons
[10:58] <turtlesoup> davise: huh?
[10:58] <thegladiator> its version 1.5 , it all happened after I installed aa theme
[10:58] <turtlesoup> davide: huh?
[10:58] <Madpilot> thegladiator: no idea, I never run Firefox
[10:58] <thegladiator> you can use SVG for icons
[10:58] <thegladiator> anyone who has some FF experience ?
[10:58] <thegladiator> how can I remove the options file for FF ?
[10:58] <Unicorn_Giggles> would I need to just make a ln -s to point to the .svg file, or just rename it?
[10:58] <intelikey>    every time my isp resets my modem connection, with this system, the pppd is unkillable it keeps saying it's busy and burping out an error message to stderr (repets about every 3 seconds)   i can rm the modules that pppd uses and kill it but sometimes it also panics the kernel.  so that is not the way to go....  if i use ctrl+alt+del  it reboots ok but it fails to umount /  and thus i get two reboots and fs errors.   any 
[10:58] <thegladiator> i suspect the themes caused it to crash
[10:58] <davide> turtlesoup, I don't know the english translation for "de rien", like "of nothing" :)
[10:58] <maniacos> hi
[10:59] <turtlesoup> davide: i see
[10:59] <ygueron> Question : Need to install compat-libstdc++ 2.96. Ay idea where to get and how to install ?
[10:59] <thegladiator> this is the error :/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[10:59] <maniacos> how can i work with rar using file-roller on ubuntu and gnome?
[10:59] <Madpilot> !rar
[10:59] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:00] <maniacos> thanx
[11:00] <thegladiator> how can I remove the "configuration file" for firefox  ? i changed the theme and ever since it is not working
[11:01] <turtlesoup> is there a command i can use from CLI that will check and resolve all dependancy problems?
[11:01] <thegladiator> this is the error : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[11:01] <intelikey> of course you know i'm going to repost that question...... i've learned from the newbies....
[11:01] <davide> turtlesoup, you can also use reboot and halt
[11:01] <thegladiator> last and final call , does anyone know about this firefox issue ? my FF simply crashed after installing a theme ...the error is /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 23882 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[11:02] <turtlesoup> davide: how do i do that? and what will it do?
[11:02] <davide> turtlesoup, and poweroff which should be halt -p
[11:02] <davide> poweroff = halt -p
[11:02] <davide> reboot = shutdown -r ??
[11:02] <thegladiator> firefox talkback stuff comes right after the crash
[11:02] <intelikey> turtlesoup yes.  man apt-get      man dpkg    man aptitude    any of those can
[11:02] <turtlesoup> intelikey:thanks for the input :)
[11:02] <davide> turtlesoup, sorry, not your last question
[11:02] <redblade> Good Evening Everyone!
[11:03] <davide> I was on the previous ;P
[11:03] <Unicorn_Giggles> Madpilot, do I have to rename the .svg to be a .png, or just make a symbolic link?
[11:03] <davide> turtlesoup, dpkg -f apt-get -f or something with -f
[11:03] <redblade> I finally got my server sort of running (lol).
[11:03] <turtlesoup> davide: i see
[11:03] <ygueron> Question : Need to install compat-libstdc++ 2.96. Ay idea where to get and how to install ?
[11:03] <davide> I don't remember if it's apt-get install -f
[11:03] <davide> or dpkg -f
[11:03] <intelikey> its sudo apt-get -f install
[11:03] <turtlesoup> intelikey: what does that do?
[11:04] <davide> resolve troubles like not present deps
[11:04] <intelikey> man apt-get      try to learn   rather than just asking
[11:04] <turtlesoup> i did that, nothing changed ?????
[11:04] <concept10> Anyone know how to disable the Gnome sounds in gnome-terminal?
[11:05] <intelikey> what error you get turtlesoup ?
[11:05] <turtlesoup> intelikey: hard to learn, when you know absolutely nothing
[11:05] <redblade> But for some reason, I need to continually start Apache (2.2.0) manually!
[11:05] <redblade> Does anyone know why?
[11:05] <turtlesoup> intelikey: it says nothing installed, upgraded etc...
[11:05] <intelikey> easier to learn whenyou know nothing than when you know everything
[11:05] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: just use it as an svg
[11:05] <turtlesoup> intelikey: probably some truth to that
[11:05] <intelikey> turtlesoup then your dependancies are ok.
[11:06] <intelikey> nothing is broken.
[11:06] <concept10> redblade, run a older version of apache
[11:06] <turtlesoup> intelikey: so why doesn't my GUI start?
[11:06] <redblade> concept 10, why?
[11:06] <concept10> redblade, such as the 1.3.x branch or the 2.0.blah brach
[11:06] <turtlesoup> i dont understand what the peoblem is here, i dont understand the CONCEPT  here LOL
[11:06] <intelikey> probably because you have you have misconfigured it turtlesoup
[11:07] <turtlesoup> intelikey: how can i check and see if i did?
[11:07] <intelikey> turtlesoup sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:07] <concept10> redblade, you never want to run bleeding edge on the webserver
[11:07] <turtlesoup> intelikey: ok , thankx i will try
[11:07] <intelikey> read every question and answer them correctly
[11:08] <intelikey>    every time my isp resets my modem connection, with this system, the pppd is unkillable it keeps saying it's busy and burping out an error message to stderr (repetes about every 3 seconds)   i can rm the modules that pppd uses and kill it but sometimes it also panics the kernel.  so that is not the way to go....  if i use ctrl+alt+del  it reboots ok but it fails to umount /  and thus i get two reboots and fs errors.   any
[11:08] <redblade> concept10. what do you mean?
[11:08] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: please ask before you pm - thanks
[11:09] <intelikey> anyone with knowledge   ^
[11:09] <intelikey> need a guru            ^
[11:09] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: for what you want it for, you'll have to convert it from SVG, I guess. Use Inkscape's Export as Bitmap function and make it into a PNG
[11:09] <concept10> redblade, I mean this:  Run a older version of apache instead of the newer versions, when you run a webserver you want to run well tested solutions
[11:10] <redblade> Oh! I see.
[11:10] <redblade> Although I have just set every thing up with this one (MySQL, PHP)
[11:10] <Unicorn_Giggles> OK, I'll give that a go. Thanks
[11:11] <RemyLaptop> hi folks
[11:11] <redblade> Isn't there a way to fix this problem?
[11:11] <redblade> hi
[11:11] <RemyLaptop> get a noobie question for you :-)
[11:11] <Unicorn_Giggles> sorry :)
[11:11] <RemyLaptop> *got
[11:11] <redblade> What is it?
[11:11] <RemyLaptop> http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/  <--  I would've thought the image would be there to download
[11:11] <RemyLaptop> but noooooo
[11:11] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: no problem - you might have to install Inkscape, it's a great SVG graphics tool - very cool
[11:11] <RemyLaptop> it's not.
[11:12] <RemyLaptop> I'm trying to d/l breezy from my isp's FTP server to save me the traffic...
[11:12] <RemyLaptop> but I can't find it on there
[11:12] <redblade> I see what you mean.
[11:12] <RemyLaptop> just files called debian-cd_info.tar.gz
[11:12] <Unicorn_Giggles> I got Inkscape, and am slowly learning how to use it
[11:12] <redblade> I'm not sure, I'm fairly new too.
[11:12] <RemyLaptop> which ain't gonna do much
[11:12] <RemyLaptop> :-P
[11:13] <intelikey>    every time my isp resets my modem connection, with this system, the pppd is unkillable it keeps saying it's busy and burping out an error message to stderr (repetes about every 3 seconds)   i can rm the modules that pppd uses and kill it but sometimes it also panics the kernel.  so that is not the way to go....  if i use ctrl+alt+del  it reboots ok but it fails to umount /  and thus i get two reboots and fs errors.   any
[11:13] <turtlesoup> davide: i did the xserver reconfigure thing, i am still getting dropped to a CLI, any ideas?  it is a fujitsu stylistic LT P-600 tablet pc
[11:14] <intelikey> one more time           need the experts  here   ^
[11:14] <davide> turtlesoup, exactly what happens?
[11:14] <turtlesoup> davide: it starts up and i see the ubuntu splash screen where is says it is setting up alsa and things like that, then i just get dropped to CLI
[11:15] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: great Inkscape tutorial/manual here: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/
[11:15] <intelikey> turtlesoup run startx and see what it does
[11:15] <Scarborough> having some ff problems, when I start it up it asks me if I want to make a new profile, wtf is that?
[11:15] <turtlesoup> intelikey: OK i will try
[11:16] <intelikey> turtlesoup it will either start the xserver or give error messages.
[11:16] <RemyLaptop> anyone know what initrd files do ?
[11:16] <turtlesoup> intelikey: it says command not found
[11:17] <intelikey> yep RemyLaptop it starts your system.    initrd = initial ram disk
[11:17] <turtlesoup> intelikey: what is the proper syntax?
[11:17] <RemyLaptop> k
[11:17] <intelikey> turtlesoup    startx
[11:17] <RemyLaptop> so if I have an initrd file, what would I be meant to do with it ?
[11:17] <RemyLaptop> put it on a CD or something ?
[11:17] <turtlesoup> intelikey: command not found
[11:17] <Alexi5> hello
[11:17] <redblade> concept10, I really would like to try running this version and just fix the problem.
[11:18] <intelikey> turtlesoup echo $PATH
[11:18] <Unicorn_Giggles> awesome, finally got it :)
[11:18] <intelikey> and lets see the out put.... one line only
[11:18] <intelikey> RemyLaptop you leave it alone.   so you system can boot next time
[11:18] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: you're customizing your desktop to put unicorns everywhere?
[11:18] <concept10> redblade, i cant help on 2.2, havent used it before, are you using breezy or dapper?
[11:19] <redblade> breezy
[11:19] <turtlesoup> intelikey: i am confused, it says command not found, exactly what do i type?
[11:19] <intelikey> echo $PATH
[11:19] <intelikey> echo "$PATH"
[11:19] <intelikey> if you like
[11:20] <RemyLaptop> intelikey, I've just downloaded one that is meant to go with breezy...
[11:20] <RemyLaptop> http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/
[11:20] <RemyLaptop> from there
[11:20] <RemyLaptop> is that meant to be like an install CD that then downloads the files for me ?
[11:21] <turtlesoup> intelikey: it says     /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games      hope i typed that right :)
[11:21] <intelikey> RemyLaptop if you are trying to do a net install or something you will need to ger a kernel also and boot it somehow.
[11:21] <RemyLaptop> hm, bugger.
[11:22] <RemyLaptop> all I want to do is download the latest breezy from my ISPs ftp server...
[11:22] <RemyLaptop> for some strange reason, that's all they appear to have...
[11:22] <intelikey> turtlesoup and    startx   is command not found ?
[11:22] <RemyLaptop> just those four files
[11:22] <RemyLaptop> no img file :(
[11:22] <turtlesoup> intelikey: correct
[11:22] <intelikey> turtlesoup sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:23] <turtlesoup> intelikey: OK, i will try, thanks!
[11:23] <RemyLaptop> intelikey, is there any easy way to upgrade to breezy ?
[11:23] <RemyLaptop> without having to manually download an image file and create a cd of the install ?
[11:23] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop: that looks more like a full Ubuntu repo mirror...
[11:23] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[11:23] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:24] <turtlesoup> intelikey: a large list scrolled by,i am back at CLI. last line was: E:Broken Packages
[11:24] <intelikey> RemyLaptop easy.... matter of openion. but yes.
[11:24] <RemyLaptop> easy = click, click, installed
[11:24] <RemyLaptop> :-)
[11:24] <turtlesoup> intelikey: maybe it is looking in the wrong place?
[11:24] <intelikey> ok turtlesoup look just above the E; and read what it sujests to fix it
[11:25] <turtlesoup> intelikey: a great many lines beginning with depends:
[11:25] <intelikey> turtlesoup use  shift  pageup uf you need to
[11:26] <intelikey> err if
[11:26] <turtlesoup> intelikey: example . .     Depends:yelp but it is not going to be installed
[11:26] <intelikey> yes not those it will sujest an action to try to fix the issue
[11:26] <gnomefreak> turtlesoup: what version of ff do you have?
[11:27] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: what is FF?
[11:27] <hatake_kakashi> whats a good download manager for http on Gnome. I'm looking for a GUI frontend rather than wget or KGet
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ff= firefox
[11:27] <hatake_kakashi> turtlesoup: firefox
[11:27] <intelikey> gnomefreak did i mis read this.   i thought turtlesoup said clean install with no gui   or gui wont start
[11:28] <turtlesoup> 1.5.0.1    , on a windows desktop
[11:28] <gnomefreak> hatake_kakashi: there is a gnome front-end for wget i just cant remember name of it :(
[11:28] <turtlesoup> intelikey: that is correct
[11:28] <hatake_kakashi> gnomefreak: thanks for the heads up, going to look into it :)
[11:28] <gnomefreak> intelikey: he ran server install?
[11:28] <Ng> there's gwget, or you could go for something more complex like d4x
[11:28] <Madpilot> gnomefreak & hatake_kakashi: gwget
[11:28] <Unicorn_Giggles> hatake_kakashi, there is Downloader for X I use it, and it's pretty nice
[11:28] <gnomefreak> hatake_kakashi: i want to say its something like gwget
[11:29] <hatake_kakashi> gnomefreak: yeah I found it, thanks :)
[11:29] <RemyLaptop> ok, noobie question
[11:29] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:29] <hatake_kakashi> Unicorn_Giggles: which program?
[11:29] <hatake_kakashi> RemyLaptop: ask
[11:29] <turtlesoup> i ran instlux on top of windows, i chose network install
[11:29] <RemyLaptop> i'm supposed to change the repository so it points  to the breezy area
[11:29] <RemyLaptop> how do I do that?
[11:29] <Unicorn_Giggles> Downloader for X or d4x, its in the repositories
[11:29] <RemyLaptop> I try to add the new one, but it only has details for hoary
[11:29] <RemyLaptop> not for breezy
[11:29] <weareallone> hola, i am a second day user, my mind rotted by windows... how do i become the owner of the other partition of my harddrive?
[11:30] <hatake_kakashi> RemyLaptop: change all instances of whatever you are on, assuming you are on hoary, you change all the instances of 'hoary' to 'breezy' without quotes of course
[11:30] <gnomefreak> RemyLaptop: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   change the word hoary to breezy than click save close sudo apt-get update
[11:30] <intelikey> gnomefreak it really doesn't matter if it's a server install or no,  apt cant install the ubuntu-desktop   and there is the issue at hand.   whether a partial install or server install it is still hung at that point.
[11:30] <hatake_kakashi> Unicorn_Giggles: thanks, will look into it
[11:30] <Unicorn_Giggles> np
[11:30] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:30] <gnomefreak> intelikey: i didnt know we were still stuck on installer
[11:31] <RemyLaptop> Madpilot, that's what I'm looking at :-P
[11:31] <Madpilot> Unicorn_Giggles: got a screenshot of this unicorn-festooned desktop of yours?
[11:31] <turtlesoup> i am stumped
[11:31] <RemyLaptop> gnomefreak, thanks
[11:31] <DigitalLF> hello im trying to make a dualboot and the question is should the linux partition have "bootable flag"?
[11:31] <DigitalLF> im using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[11:31] <turtlesoup> it says i have alot of unmet dependencies
[11:31] <Unicorn_Giggles> no unicorns on mine (yet), just a leaf, but I'll make one, gimme 2 secs
[11:31] <RemyLaptop> that's why I love this channel :)
[11:32] <Madpilot> weareallone: if you mean the /root (filesystem) side, then you don't own it, the system does
[11:33] <weareallone> ow do i access files from it?
[11:33] <weareallone> *how
[11:33] <intelikey> turtlesoup cant find the sujestion in the dpkg output ?      run it again (up arrow to recall the command)  but add   | less       that is the pipe sign
[11:33] <bimberi> DigitalLF: Nope.  Neither of the 2 linux partitions that i boot from are flagged bootable :)
[11:33] <Madpilot> weareallone: you can browse anytime (read-only) but to do more requires using sudo
[11:34] <DigitalLF> bimberi anything else i should think of? (n00b when it comes to my laptop inspiron 9400)
[11:34] <weareallone> Madpilot: terminal?
[11:34] <turtlesoup> intelikey: i dont understand
[11:34] <Madpilot> weareallone: as a general rule, you don't usually need to do anything on that side, just let the system take care of it.
[11:34] <RemyLaptop> upgrade in progress.
[11:34] <RemyLaptop> later all!
[11:34] <weareallone> i can't even browse it
[11:34] <DigitalLF> bimberi i hade to use vga=771 when i booted thats all i think so far.. :P
[11:34] <intelikey> turtlesoup piping the output through less will let you scroll it at you pace.  and even back up or use   /  and search for thengs
[11:35] <turtlesoup> intelikey: i see
[11:35] <weareallone> changed accessibilty and directory in disks
[11:35] <bimberi> DigitalLF: not that i can think of
[11:35] <DigitalLF> bimberi thank you very much
[11:35] <DigitalLF> bbl
[11:35] <RemyLaptop> before I go
[11:35] <Madpilot> weareallone: have you read the RootSudo wiki page?
[11:35] <weareallone> Madpilot: do i neet to set dir to root?
[11:35] <bimberi> DigitalLF: yw :)
[11:35] <RemyLaptop> just thought I should let you know that I'm downloading at 6mbps!
[11:35] <RemyLaptop> :-)
[11:35] <RemyLaptop> wohoo !
[11:35] <weareallone> i guess i should do that eh?
[11:35] <Dreamstar> Hi everybody. Can anyone help me configuring NTP so that on boot the clock will be automatically updated? on breezy it worked with no prob, here on dapper it looks it doesn't update automatically. Thx!
[11:35] <turtlesoup> intelikey: how do i type the pipe sign?
[11:36] <RemyLaptop> is dapper a new release ?
[11:36] <RemyLaptop> or a development release?
[11:36] <DigitalLF> bimberi hehe one more thing.... primary or logical for the swap partition?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> RemyLaptop: not yet
[11:36] <Madpilot> weareallone: I'm not sure what you mean
[11:36] <intelikey> shift  \
[11:36] <Dreamstar> dapper is developement release
[11:36] <RemyLaptop> k
[11:36] <RemyLaptop> I'll stick to breezy then
[11:36] <gnomefreak> its devel
[11:36] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop: Dapper will have it's final release in mid-April
[11:36] <bimberi> DigitalLF: doesn't matter (but mine is logical)
[11:36] <RemyLaptop> k
[11:36] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: can u help me with ntp?
[11:37] <DigitalLF> bimberi okey thank you again
[11:37] <Dreamstar> i think i should modify the boot services
[11:37] <RemyLaptop> oh sweet sweet 6mbps :)
[11:37] <weareallone> i haven't read that page yet, so i will now, thx
[11:37] <RemyLaptop> how I love you so
[11:37] <Madpilot> !tell weareallone about sudo
[11:37] <Dreamstar> RemyLaptop: i am on a 10 mbps :P
[11:37] <RemyLaptop> nice
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Dreamstar: is it set to ntp in the clock settings?
[11:37] <RemyLaptop> my connection is 21mbps, but it's only d/l at 6 ;-)
[11:37] <maka> hi
[11:38] <turtlesoup> intelikey: i have a ton of lines that are like this:  Depends: bluez-pin but it is not going to be installed        what does all this mean?
[11:38] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: yep and i also selected to update automatically but as far as i see in the boot processes there is no NTP update
[11:38] <DigitalLF> when im already here... how big should a swap partition be if i got 1024mb ddr2 533
[11:38] <RemyLaptop> :D
[11:38] <RemyLaptop> I only got it last week..
[11:38] <Madpilot> Dreamstar: you might have to adjust the servers that the ntp process is looking for
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Dreamstar: ok i havent looked at that that close but maybe they pulled it out for now to fix something else
[11:39] <weareallone> is that thing automated?
[11:39] <Dreamstar> Madpilot: already done and it works when manually updated
[11:39] <Madpilot> weareallone: the bot? sort of
[11:39] <weareallone> the tell function?
[11:39] <weareallone> nice
[11:39] <Madpilot> ubotu tell weareallone about yourself
[11:39] <Unicorn_Giggles> Madpilot, http://localghost.wiredguides.com/210206.png <-- there it is, its its simplistic glory lol
[11:39] <maka> is it possible to go online while trying to Live CD
[11:39] <Dreamstar> but as i said the prob is that the update doesn't load on start up, i think
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Dreamstar: if that is the only issue you face in dapper be happy :(
[11:39] <DigitalLF> anyone? swap how big when 1024mb ddr2
[11:39] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: lol yep it's the only prob i have ^^
[11:40] <bimberi> DigitalLF: I reckon 1GB - rule of thumb is 2xRAM up to a maximum of 1GB
[11:40] <Madpilot> DigitalLF: I've got 1024 ddr, didn't bother with swap
[11:40] <weareallone> cool beans, thx for ure help
[11:40] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: u think it's possible i add it to the boot processes? is so, how can i do so?
[11:40] <DigitalLF> will the swap make a big difference?
[11:40] <bimberi> DigitalLF:  some even say max out at 512MB
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Dreamstar: i would check for bugs on it or wait it out maybe it will get fixed (if someone has said something)
[11:40] <RemyLaptop> hey folks, quick question: what's NFS, and how do I use it ?
[11:41] <Madpilot> DigitalLF: with 1Gb, I rarely max out my RAM, even with caching
[11:41] <mans123> Can someone tell me how i can disable initrd when compiling a custon kernel
[11:41] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: ok...where should i look for the processes loaded at boot?
[11:41] <bimberi> DigitalLF: btw it's not a 'final' decision - you can create a file on the filesystem to use as swap anyway
[11:41] <mans123> i have removed the ramdisk option in menuconfig
[11:42] <mans123> but still it uses initrd
[11:42] <intelikey> turtlesoup i'm probably going to have to 'dump you in someone elses lap'  but for future referance  you have a "package dependancy problem"  with ubuntu-desktop    it means your install is borked.        sorry  i busy right now...
[11:42] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: lol :)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Dreamstar: i would just type in ntp in launchpad see what comes up
[11:42] <RemyLaptop> !nfs
[11:42] <ubotu> methinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:43] <turtlesoup> intelikey: thanks for the help !
[11:43] <Madpilot> Dreamstar: in Gnome, rightclick on the clock, pick Adjust Date & Time
[11:43] <Dreamstar> ok gnomefreak i'll try it so
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: dream stated they already changed it
[11:43] <Dreamstar> that's nice! it says "command not found" but i have ntp installed! :D
[11:43] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: k
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Dreamstar: ntp is not a command
[11:44] <RemyLaptop> anyone know an easy way to copy files between my ubuntu and my windows machine over the network ?
[11:44] <Dreamstar> Madpilot: yep it worked manually, the prob is that i want it to work automatically on startup ^^
[11:44] <RemyLaptop> I've had to upload them to a web ftp server, then download in the past...
[11:44] <RemyLaptop> :-P
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Dreamstar: you need to go to the launchpad website and search there
[11:44] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: i see ^^
[11:44] <Dreamstar> gnomefreak: launchpad website?!?
[11:44] <Madpilot> Dreamstar: in gnome you can fix the ntp server lookups so it works automatically - use pool.ntp.org as your lookup
[11:45] <gnomefreak> !launchpad
[11:45] <ubotu> gnomefreak: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:45] <AntMaz> Anyone know of a divx codec playewr that plays well , vlc doesnt play divx codec files well at all
[11:45] <Dreamstar> !launchpad
[11:45] <ubotu> Dreamstar: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:45] <bimberi> gee you'd think there'd be a factoid for launchpad
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell AntMaz about restricted
[11:46] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: launchpad.net is messed up right now anyway, it looks like
[11:46] <RemyLaptop> I've had to upload them to a web ftp server, then download in the past...
[11:46] <RemyLaptop> anyone know an easy way to copy files between my ubuntu and my windows machine over the network ?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh
[11:46] <Madpilot> !tell RemyLaptop about samba
[11:46] <RemyLaptop> !samba
[11:46] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:46] <Dreamstar> !ntp
[11:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.
[11:47] <odat> anyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV18
[11:47] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop: when people do the !tell thing to you, the bot should message you...
[11:47] <RemyLaptop> it did too :)
[11:47] <AntMaz> Anyone know of a divx codec playewr that plays well , vlc doesnt play divx codec files well at all
[11:47] <RemyLaptop> will you look at that!
[11:47] <bimberi> !launchpad is a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/
[11:47] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[11:47] <Dreamstar> mmmm i'm trying to understand how to add process on startup....
[11:47] <AntMaz> i can play divx formats on vlc but the get like 3 frames a minuete
[11:47] <gnomefreak> AntMaz: read your pm
[11:48] <AntMaz> i did ive done all that
[11:48] <AntMaz> i can play divx formats in vlc but it get like 3 frames every 30sec to amin
[11:48] <RemyLaptop> !sodu
[11:48] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:48] <Madpilot> AntMaz: try totem
[11:48] <RemyLaptop> !sudo
[11:48] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:49] <AntMaz> totem doesnt support divx formats
[11:49] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop: you can always /msg the bot
[11:49] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[11:49] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:50] <AntMaz> so anyone know of a good divx player
[11:50] <kemik> AntMaz: vlc or mplayer
[11:50] <AntMaz> they suck
[11:51] <Madpilot> AntMaz: write your own :P
[11:51] <kemik> "[11:48:35]  <AntMaz> i can play divx formats in vlc but it get like 3 frames every 30sec to amin"
[11:51] <kemik> probably somethings not configured correctly
[11:51] <kemik> vlc is pretty darned good actually
[11:51] <tania> HI all
[11:52] <AntMaz> oh is it
[11:52] <kemik> only has issues w/ a few .wmv's.. and those mplayer can play ... :)
[11:52] <raghu> i want to install very light desktop manager which one to go with?
[11:52] <tania> is there a possibility to find a 2.6.15 kernel package for ubuntu ?
[11:52] <odat> anyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV18
[11:52] <kemik> raghu: icewm or xfce
[11:52] <Madpilot> Totem-xine has played everything I've ever thrown at it...
[11:52] <raghu> kemik, thx
[11:52] <tania> are the Debian kernel packages ok for ubuntu ?
[11:53] <AntMaz> when i installed 2000 on a 450 with 380 ram it would play divx file formats fine in divx
[11:53] <bintut> anybody can help me here? i tried to build the kernel source from ubuntu dev linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-15.21.tar.gz and i got an error ==> http://pastebin.com/564794
[11:53] <intelikey> turtlesoup i really hate to leave a gut with a broke system.
[11:53] <kemik> Madpilot: you cnat have thrown alot then ;)
[11:54] <kemik> Madpilot: but i do have high expectations on gstreamer10
[11:54] <Madpilot> kemik: guess not, but it does seem to work better than many people give it credit for :P
[11:54] <Toma-> tania, not really...
[11:54] <intelikey> turtlesoup i'm going to pm you a command string that "should"  fix the thing so you can install the ubuntu-desktop and anything else you want     k ?
[11:54] <turtlesoup> intelikey: LOL , i am still trying to reconfigure xserver
[11:54] <turtlesoup> intelikey: OK
[11:55] <jimcooncat> Is there a text-based gconf editor?
[11:55] <intelikey> turtlesoup sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)
[11:55] <AntMaz> with ubuntu when playing a video does it write it to the memory of the video card to playback
[11:55] <tania> and where to find a 2.6.15 kernel for ubuntu ?
[11:55] <turtlesoup> intelikey: thanks
[11:56] <gnomefreak> tania: dapper but its not stable yet
[11:57] <AntMaz> with ubuntu when playing a video does it write it to the memory of the video card to playback ,anyone know
[11:57] <AntMaz> cause thats what windows does
[11:57] <oga> could somebody please help me print pdf's 4 / 6 per page as opposed to 1 per page (using lpr driver, cups wrapper, brother hl-2040, fairly new to linux)
[11:58] <AntMaz> and if so can i change it to write to the motherboard memory
[11:58] <moret> hi all!
[11:58] <moret> Please, I need a repo with codecs, mplayer...
[11:59] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[11:59] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:59] <tania> and how do I get a dapper kernel with breezy badger ?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> tania: you dont
[11:59] <tania> cool
[11:59] <liquidindian> If I'm using the terminal, how can I stop the results of ls scrolling off the screen?
[11:59] <Seveas> tania, that is a very bad idea
[11:59] <moret> ubotu, so, is mplayer in multiverse?
[11:59] <ubotu> moret: okay
[11:59] <odat> anyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV18
[11:59] <shinu> what does an exclamation mark mean in the shell?
[11:59] <moret> and codecs?
[11:59] <Seveas> newer kernel needs newer udev etx...
[11:59] <gnomefreak> 2.6.15 would be dapper not breezy no matter how you go tit
[11:59] <Seveas> moret, ubotu is a bot....
[11:59] <Seveas> !forget so,
[11:59] <ubotu> i forgot so,, Seveas
[11:59] <gnomefreak> moret: yes
[12:00] <moret> haha
[12:00] <moret> oks
[12:00] <AntMaz> me thinks ubuntu writes to mem of vdeo card , cause i have an onboard video card and it sucks
[12:00] <moret> and codecs?
[12:00] <Seveas> !forget start a desktop war
[12:00] <ubotu> i forgot start a desktop war, Seveas
[12:00] <Seveas> !forget start a wm war
[12:00] <ubotu> i forgot start a wm war, Seveas
[12:00] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[12:00] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:00] <Seveas> !forget start an editor war
[12:00] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot start an editor war
[12:00] <gnomefreak> shinu: in a script or just in a shell?
[12:00] <Seveas> !forget its insane how much faster linux
[12:00] <ubotu> i forgot its insane how much faster linux, Seveas
[12:00] <Madpilot> !tell Seveas about msg the bot
[12:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:00] <Madpilot> :P
[12:01] <Seveas> !lart Madpilot
[12:01] <Madpilot> Seveas: that only works in -offtopic
[12:01] <Seveas> Madpilot, too bad you can't come to the meeting
[12:01] <Madpilot> Seveas: got my email, then?
[12:01] <Ng> ooh yeah there's a meeting today, I keep meaning to go to one ;)
[12:01] <Seveas> Madpilot, of course
[12:02] <liquidindian> !bash
[12:02] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[12:02] <Madpilot> Seveas: cool, was just about to sign off, it's late here - hope the meeting goes well
[12:02] <AntMaz> love how xmms is just like winamp
[12:02] <turtlesoup> i tried this:   sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)          and the error is "lc_messages" is not installed and no info is available.  anyone know what this means?
[12:03] <Seveas> Madpilot, bonne nuit
[12:03] <tania> what are the deb packages in "http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/" ???
[12:03] <gnomefreak> turtlesoup: try sudo apt-get install lc_messages? never seen it so it s a guess
[12:03] <AntMaz> so anyone know about the video playback memory chaching
[12:03] <gnomefreak> tania: synaptic
[12:03] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[12:04] <Seveas> tania, kernels for dapper...
[12:04] <bintut> any comments?  ==>  http://pastebin.com/564794
[12:04] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: couldnt find package lc_messages     ...  how can i make sure that my setup is looking to get stuff from a server?
[12:05] <Ng> turtlesoup: what on earth were you trying to do?!
[12:05] <Ng> that command looks pretty wrong
[12:05] <gnomefreak> turtlesoup: run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:05] <odat> anyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV18
[12:05] <nathanj> anyone know how to setup a samba share with out a login?
[12:05] <turtlesoup> Ng: just trying to get my desktop working :0
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Ng: intelikey gave him that for some reason (doesnt remember why)
[12:05] <Ng> turtlesoup: ...
[12:05] <turtlesoup> i am a newbie, and VERY lost at this point
[12:06] <turtlesoup> LOL
[12:06] <Ng> gnomefreak: well it looks like nonsense to me
[12:06] <redblade> How do I cut an image in gimp?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Seveas: is there a date set to get  xubuntu-desktop back yet?
[12:06] <redblade> i want to cut it away drom the background.
[12:07] <turtlesoup> all poor turtlesoup is trying to do is get his GUI desktop :(
[12:08] <gnomefreak> turtlesoup: let me know if sudo apt-get -f install wants to install anything
[12:08] <liquidindian> Ah, pipe is the word I'm looking for.  How do I 'pipe' the output of ls so it gives me a page at a time?
[12:08] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: ok
[12:08] <gnomefreak> liquidindian: |less
[12:08] <liquidindian> gnomefreak, cheers.
[12:09] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: i typed   " sudo apt-get -f install "   and it says 0 for everything
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ofcourse it does :(
[12:09] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: did i do it wrong?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> no
[12:10] <gnomefreak> turtlesoup: this was during install this happened right?
[12:11] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: yea, i was installing from instlux on top of windows and when it restarted setup started, all seemed well, but i cant get to desktop
[12:11] <Ng> what does it say if you ask it to install ubuntu-desktop?
[12:11] <videoapelsin> !sfv
[12:11] <ubotu> videoapelsin: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Ng: depends on a bunch of crap
[12:11] <turtlesoup> Ng: i tried that earlier, no luck
[12:12] <Ng> well you need that package to be installable, so I'm tempted to suggest a -f install ubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <Ng> can you run a normal install? ;)
[12:12] <GameCat> can anyone tell me how to get X set up after changing monitors?
[12:12] <Ng> whatever instlux is is probably to blame
[12:12] <turtlesoup> Ng: this is a tablet pc that cannot boot from USB cd rom, so i was really limited as to installing to it
[12:13] <Ng> ugh
[12:13] <gnomefreak> anything with the abrevation of instant cant be good :(
[12:13] <turtlesoup> Ng, my only boot options are floppy,HDD, PXE
[12:13] <gnomefreak> turtlesoup: did intelikey know this?
[12:13] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: yes
[12:13] <Nemo> I have a slave drive installed on my system but I can't seem to access it, why is that?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> oh nice of him to relay :(
[12:14] <oga> could somebody please help me print pdf's 4 / 6 per page as opposed to 1 per page (using lpr driver, cups wrapper, brother hl-2040, fairly new to linux)... can anyboyd point me towards some good existing documentation
[12:14] <oga> ?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> ok time for shower so i can get to class :( later all
[12:14] <GameCat> can anyone tell me how to get X set up after changing monitors on an existing install??
[12:14] <GameCat> please? :)
[12:14] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: i am way out of my realm trying to get this installed
[12:15] <liquidindian> Is there anyway to "unpack" a .exe installation file on ubuntu?  (odd question, I know)
[12:15] <turtlesoup> gnomefreak: i dont know what is going on, the computer starts up and i see the ubuntu splash screen, then it just drops me to command line
[12:15] <e-foo> how can i compile a module in the kernel in ubuntu (hpt374.ko)?
[12:16] <Ng> GameCat: you can reconfigure x with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:16] <Nemo> I have a sound card that shows up on my device manager but i'm not getting any sound, Help please
[12:17] <shinu> how do i put an exclamation mark in the shell without using '\' ?
[12:17] <GameCat> ng: thanks
[12:17] <Ng> shinu: depends, what are you trying to do?
[12:17] <jason__> hey what plugins can i use with linux? like flash?
[12:17] <sirgrim> morning
[12:18] <Ng> jason__: flash, real, java, and you can persuade other things to work too sometimes
[12:18] <shinu> Ng: trying to use wget to download a file thats got a ! in its name, and it keeps interpreting it weirdly
[12:18] <rinke> Jeson Yes,their is a Flashplayer for Linux
[12:18] <videoapelsin> !dvd
[12:18] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:18] <jason__> Ng, whats the name of the Flashplayer for Linux?
[12:18] <Ng> shinu: you could try encasing the URL in single quotes (') that should stop the shell from touching them
[12:19] <sirgrim> looking for advice on changing the kernel boot splash
[12:19] <Ng> jason__: if you browse to a page with flash in it, firefox should offer to install it, or there's a nonfree flash installer package in synaptic
[12:19] <shinu> Ng: oh right, i tried with " but it didnt work
[12:19] <Ng> shinu: double quotes still allow for shell expansion :)
[12:19] <jason__> Ng, whats the name of the flash in synaptic???
[12:19] <odat> anyone ever have trouble with a built in nvidia chip called NV18
[12:20] <turtlesoup> if i type    startx     from command line, that should start the gui right?
[12:20] <rinke> Janson: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[12:20] <Ng> jason__: I think it's flashplayer-nonfree, but search for flash and see what options there are to be sure :)
[12:20] <Ng> jason__: also you might want to look at the RestrictedFormats wiki page, it covers installing thigns like java
[12:20] <Luka666> ellow
[12:20] <rinke> Jason: Flasplayer is free to use;)
[12:21] <Luka666> is it normal to have /dev/.static and /dev/.udevdb folders in ubuntu?
[12:21] <sirgrim> anyway to redo the kernel splash without recompiling?
[12:21] <Luka666> rkhunter reported that they are hidden files and that i should look into it
[12:21] <shinu> Ng: okey thanks. there is still some weird problem but nvm :P
[12:21] <ndlovu> I deleted mysql's data directory (/var/lib/mysql), and now I'm trying to get mysql working again. Is it easiest just to reinstall mysql? is there a better way to recreate the databases?
[12:23] <Nameeater> Luka666: I have them
[12:23] <ardinary> :o
[12:23] <turtlesoup> how do i start X from command line?
[12:23] <Luka666> Nameeater thx
[12:23] <Luka666> can anyone else check :>
[12:24] <ardinary> Luka666, what a weird name :P
[12:24] <Luka666> ardinary?
[12:24] <turtlesoup> LOL
[12:25] <e-foo> turtlesoup: startx
[12:25] <lukagon> this was the first nick i ever used
[12:25] <lukagon> you look so similar
[12:25] <turtlesoup> e-foo: it says command not found  any ideas?
[12:25] <Luka666> my name is luka
[12:25] <lukagon> you must be my evil twin.  got a goatee doncha?
[12:25] <Luka666> so...
[12:25] <e-foo> apt-get install xorg-x11
[12:25] <Luka666> i dont have a goatee
[12:26] <Zetard> Hello
[12:26] <turtlesoup> e-foo: i will try thankx
[12:26] <videoapelsin> "deb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas extras
[12:26] <videoapelsin> bash: deb: command not found" what i'm missing here?
[12:26] <Zetard> I have a problem, its not exactly ubuntu's fault, rather windows, but i think you may be able to help me anyways.
[12:26] <gmatera> hallo
[12:26] <lukagon> get one and we can take pictures of ourselves together! it'll be fun :p
[12:27] <ompaul> folks if your here for chatting please do so in  #ubuntu-offtopic this is supposed to be a help channel
[12:27] <turtlesoup> e-foo: couldnt find package xorg-x11
[12:27] <Luka666> lukagon a goatee takes too much effort and im to lazy to shave :>
[12:27] <Luka666> ompaul sorry. ill stop
[12:28] <lukagon> ah.  my names luke but i thought that luka was a girls name because everyone told me so
[12:28] <Zetard> I tried to install ubuntu yesterday, but my disk was broken, and now everytime i start, instead of Grub i get the windowsinstallation-hoolabalooa :P looks like it was a broken istallation, im on a live DVD now, any ideas?
[12:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need help with hotplug , usb to be more exact
[12:29] <nathanj> anyone know how to share a drive via samba publically
[12:29] <Zetard> i have succesfully installed ubunto, but i dont get grub, it says, starting c:\windows instead.
[12:29] <Zetard> and then the windows installation starts.
[12:29] <turtlesoup> heres what i want to do:   sudo apt-get install xorg-x11    , how do i make the computer get it from the internet?
[12:29] <e-foo> turtlesoup: try xorg-common
[12:30] <liquidindian> zetard, I was able to install Grub from the live CD, there's info in the wiki.  Hold on a sec...
[12:30] <DigitalLF> install complete.. how do i "su -"
[12:30] <bimberi> DigitalLF: sudo -i
[12:30] <turtlesoup> e-foo: i think my computer isnt looking on the net for it
[12:30] <weareallone> #ubotu
[12:30] <DigitalLF> :P
[12:30] <weareallone> ... :|
[12:31] <Zetard> liquidindian, i have installed ubunto, im certain its on the hdd, but i get some "windows missing, starting c:\windows" instead error
[12:31] <AMDXP> anyone using 64 bit version
[12:31] <turtlesoup> e-foo: it says xorg-common is already the newest version
[12:31] <liquidindian> Zetard, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[12:32] <liquidindian> That helped me.  I'm no expert, though.
[12:32] <redblade> Hey, I was here earlier looking for the answer to a problem.
[12:32] <Zetard> ill try that liquidindian , thnx
[12:33] <liquidindian> Far, far from it.  I used "Using the LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"
[12:33] <liquidindian> Speak to an expert first, though.
[12:33] <redblade> I was wondering why apache 2.2 needs to be started manually every time I start Linux(breezy)
[12:33] <videoapelsin> !mp3
[12:33] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:34] <mohasr> hi all
[12:34] <Luka666> bye
[12:35] <redblade> I was wondering why apache 2.2 needs to be started manually every time I start Linux(breezy)
[12:36] <redblade> or rather how to keep it on permanently.
[12:37] <weareallone> so... i cannot access files on the other part of my drive. went thru rootsudo wiki and i changed root profile to be able to execute administrative operations and aigned on as root... if that's what i wa supposed to do, it didn't work...
[12:38] <Exxpert> hey guys,, do ya have a sec to help a poor bastard?
[12:39] <redblade> lol
[12:39] <Kouwe> does someone has ninan running on ubuntu succesfully?
[12:42] <Kouwe> where does ubuntu stores JAVA at install automatically?
[12:42] <Zetard> liquidindian, i typ grub, then "root (0,0)" to "root (4,4) every possible combination gives me error 21 disk does not exist :X
[12:42] <weareallone> any1 got the patience for a novice?
[12:42] <redblade> Exxpert, what's wrong?
[12:42] <Exxpert> have a amd x64 and planning on installing ubuntu, but need to buy a nvidia graphicsadapter. went down to the local store and they had two cheap options, 1: geforce 6200 with 256mb. and a geforce 6600 with 512mb. it is quite a bit between them in price.. what to pick? damn options in life..:-D
[12:42] <Exxpert> planning on xgl;-)
[12:42] <redblade> No idea sorry
[12:43] <Exxpert> oh crap..
[12:43] <Exxpert> :D
[12:43] <Kouwe> in wich directory is java installed?
[12:43] <ectospasm> Exxpert:  that depends, what's your budget like?  The older card will cost less now, but you'll have to upgrade sooner...
[12:43] <redblade> "usr/bin/javawazhere/
[12:43] <DigitalLF> i cant get xorg up and running something about "I810: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found"
[12:44] <DigitalLF> gfx is Intel Media Accelerator 950
[12:44] <Exxpert> i dont play any games, just writing and stuff,, want xgl and compiz to run smooooooth:D
[12:44] <ectospasm> I'd go with the cheaper card, unless there's only like ~$50 difference...
[12:44] <mohasr> i use xgl/compiz on gforce 4 go (64mb) very well
[12:45] <Exxpert> :O
[12:45] <redblade> weareallone?
[12:46] <mahangu> apt-get update fails for me
[12:46] <mahangu> dies
[12:46] <mahangu> is there a way to force it
[12:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i'm in love with a stripper
[12:46] <Exxpert> 112$ difference!
[12:47] <weareallone> i have ubuntu 5.1 and i am trying to access the files on the other side of my harddrive... tried rootsudo and no luck on my part, but i'm probably doin it wrong
[12:47] <redblade> CanYouHelpMePlz, And... ?
[12:47] <weareallone> thx 4 ure time
[12:47] <Exxpert> mohasr: are you satisfied with the system?
[12:47] <mohasr> yea , very
[12:47] <janoli> hi!!
[12:47] <janoli> any chance to connect a sony eric z500 with my ubuntu ?!
[12:47] <mohasr> i use dapper f4 and this is my first ubuntu
[12:48] <janoli> -my-
[12:48] <turtlesoup> CanYouHelpMePlz: does she love you back? LOL
[12:48] <mohasr> honstly , i _love_ it
[12:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> turtlesoup: probably not, since it's a song :-P
[12:48] <turtlesoup> AAhhh
[12:48] <Exxpert> mohasr: Im downloading dapper f4 right now..
[12:48] <Exxpert> hope i get it to work..:D
[12:48] <weareallone> redblade: did u catch that?
[12:49] <redblade> what?
[12:49] <ompaul> Exxpert, it may work, but then in two days it may not that is the joy of devel
[12:49] <Exxpert> LOL
[12:49] <turtlesoup> is there a way i can launch network setup from a floppy disk? i am about to give up and start over
[12:49] <mohasr> Exxpert: i use it on compaq laptop , and it detected every thing , even the soft volume control buttons that I couldn't make them work in fedora 4 !!
[12:49] <weareallone> i'm trying to acces the other part of my harddrive (files) and i tried root sudo, but may have got it all wrong
[12:50] <redblade> weareallone, what?
[12:50] <bintut> anyone here uses dapper already?  i'm currently using breezy on amd64 laptop. is it safe to dist-upgrade?  please advice :)
[12:50] <Exxpert> no idea om using breezy then?
[12:50] <mohasr> bintut: i use dapper
[12:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> it's best to stick with breezy until dapper is released officially
[12:50] <mohasr> f4
[12:50] <weareallone> i partitioned my hardrive and i want to access the files on the other 'part'
[12:51] <mohasr> i couldn't help not trying xgl :D
[12:51] <Exxpert> does xgl runs the same way on both dapper and breezy?
[12:51] <bunyip> bintut - you should only use dapper on a test machine.  It is constantly changing and not suitable for production.
[12:51] <mohasr> wow the cube totating is addictive
[12:51] <bintut> mohasr: is it safe to upgrade from breezy-amd64 to dapper-amd64?
[12:51] <Sp4rKy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=756636#post756636
[12:52] <weareallone> redblade: keep forgetting to  put ture name first
[12:52] <mohasr> bintut: i don think so
[12:52] <bintut> bunyip: my laptop. i still have a problem on acpi here.. :(
[12:52] <redblade> weareallone, I'm not sure what you mean.
[12:52] <redblade> Dual boot?
[12:52] <Exxpert> Sp4rKy: ; shes cute:-)
[12:52] <valdor> Anyone know how to restore the default kde menu in Kubuntu. ( instead of the Debian submenu ) ?
[12:53] <Sp4rKy> Exxpert, yes, she's my little sister :)
[12:53] <^jude^> when booting to recovery mode my machine asks for root password - what do I give it (my password doesn't work)
[12:53] <Exxpert> then congratz then!
[12:53] <WiFiAlready> if i download new ati driver ubuntu show me a key error
[12:53] <weareallone> redblade: i am trying to be able to access files on the other part of my partitioned hardrive
[12:53] <mohasr> i've a problem with samba , i can see the shares on the other pcs in my lan but can't share :-(
[12:53] <redblade> ohh. Ummm. Not sure, weareallone
[12:54] <Exxpert> alright!,, *gets the ass from the chair and heads down to computerstore and buy a cheap 6600 256mb*
[12:54] <weareallone> thx anyways
[12:55] <elkbuntu> bwahahah irony with that baby pic..on the shirt... the 'linux inside' symbol is on the washing machine, but linux is on the outside of the machine, windows is inside it :D
[12:55] <mohasr> any one knows how to configure smb proberly to share files with windows pcs in the same lan ?
[12:56] <Anisotropo> Hi, can you tell me a good book to start with Linux?
[12:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ...book?
[12:57] <Acidic32> is it worth getting the 64bit edition?
[12:57] <redblade> Why do you need a book?
[12:57] <ohgood> Anisotropo: i like the pocket reference from o'reily
[12:57] <colm_asleep> Anisotropo, linux in a nutshell is a good reader
[12:57] <redblade> although most books should be able to help you with the basics
[12:57] <bushito> !mp3
[12:57] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <Anisotropo> I like read good books and I want to start "playing" Linux.
[12:58] <babo> Anyone help me with a simple bash expression ... ?
[12:58] <Anisotropo> Thanks, colm.
[12:58] <Kouwe> !java
[12:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:58] <redblade> mohasr, www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection
[12:58] <redblade> bye then
[12:58] <ohgood> Anisotropo: with a small $30 or so investment, you can get a couple of nice books, and a linux magazine, with a full dvd install of one or two distros. might but just what you want. :)
[12:58] <ectospasm> babo:  what bash expression?
[12:59] <Acidic32> is it worth getting the 64bit edition?
[12:59] <ohgood> Acidic32: sorry, no way to know for your situation.
[12:59] <ectospasm> Acidic32:  only if you have a 64bit processor (-;
[12:59] <mohasr> i see little performance advantegs with x64 distros
[12:59] <Acidic32> i have a 64biot processesor
[12:59] <Anisotropo> Thanks, ohgood.
[12:59] <janoli> any chance connecting a z500 mobile with ubuntu ?
[12:59] <ohgood> Anisotropo: (:
[12:59] <Acidic32> mm so ill stick to my standard x86 package
[01:00] <Acidic32> not the 64 bit one?
[01:00] <turtlesoup> is there a way i can launch ubuntu setup from floppy disk?
[01:00] <colm> Anisotropo, note that books tend to get old fast in this world, so aim for something that will last
[01:00] <ectospasm> no, you get better memory utilization for 64bit...
[01:00] <babo> ectospasm: while read job_description ; do php -r 'echo (urlencode($job_description));' ; done > file         ... doesn't work
[01:00] <Acidic32> mmm
[01:00] <ectospasm> Although performance wise there's not much difference
[01:00] <Acidic32> but will things break in 64bit ?
[01:01] <mohasr> bye all
[01:01] <Anisotropo> colm, yes, I thought it, but I don't want to learn from on-line manuals with typos and erratas.
[01:01] <ohgood> Acidic32: things break in 16bit. of course they will break in 32/64/128 etc
[01:01] <ectospasm> babo:  where is job_description defined?
[01:01] <babo> 64 bit isn't so bad, I'm running it at the moment... there are some good tutorials in the wiki now
[01:01] <Acidic32> no cuz i ran suse 64bit, and things didnt compile sometimes
[01:01] <babo> ectospasm: in the same directory
[01:01] <colm> Anisotropo, know what you mean, but you'll find the typos and erratas in books too!  every book nowadays has a typos and erratas web page
[01:01] <elkbuntu> ohgood, on that note, some things havent been ported for 64bit yet
[01:02] <bimberi> turtlesoup: there is a netboot install - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[01:02] <ectospasm> babo:  I don't have my bash book here, so I can't go to that reference.  I'm not familiar with the read command (I think I've used it maybe once or twice)...
[01:03] <turtlesoup> bimberi: thank you
[01:03] <matyas_za> hi guys
[01:03] <babo> ectopasm: cool
[01:03] <matyas_za> I would like to install krb5-user, but apt-get doesnt seem to have it in the database
[01:03] <bimberi> turtlesoup: good luck (i've seen your tribulations) :)
[01:03] <matyas_za> is there another source i can look ?
[01:04] <Anisotropo> colm, OK, but you can correct them looking at that web. (Sorry if I delay in my answers: I'm not a native English speaker [I'm spanish] .)
[01:04] <turtlesoup> bimberi: yes, i am experiencing some trials with this :)
[01:04] <colm> Anisotropo, I believe there is also a spanish support group...   anyone?
[01:04] <turtlesoup> bimberi: on that wiki, what is Roo?
[01:04] <ectospasm> babo:  while read reads std input into job_description right?  You're probably gonna need to do something else...
[01:04] <colm> !es
[01:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:04] <bimberi> matyas_za: it's in the universe repository ...
[01:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell matyas_za about universe
[01:05] <matyas_za> thank you bimberi
[01:05] <Anisotropo> Hehe, colm, thanks, very much.
[01:05] <turtlesoup> bimberi: does that wiki assume i am already running linux somewhere?
[01:05] <bimberi> turtlesoup: yes, you'll need a second computer to netboot from
[01:06] <turtlesoup> bimberi: Ungghhh, my desktop is windows, and has work stuff and no free hard drives available, any ideas?
[01:06] <Anisotropo> Anyway, I came to improve my English.
[01:06] <bimberi> turtlesoup: "Roo" is that guy's own server
[01:06] <valdor> How can u restore the default kde menu in kubuntu ( Deleted the debian menu by accident )??
[01:06] <ectospasm> babo:  man read, that might help some...
[01:06] <bimberi> turtlesoup: the third paragraph?
[01:07] <janoli> any chance connecting a z500 mobile with ubuntu ?
[01:07] <turtlesoup> bimberi: i see, sorry
[01:07] <OmegaAlpha> Anyone know where the mozilla layout libraries are located?
[01:07] <bimberi> turtlesoup: np :)
[01:07] <turtlesoup> bimberi: i am just deluged with information
[01:07] <bimberi> turtlesoup: yes indeed
[01:08] <babo> ectospasm: there is no man read
[01:08] <OmegaAlpha> im trying to install the activex control
[01:08] <ohgood> turtlesoup: so shrink the partition ?
[01:08] <ectospasm> hrmm... I'm not on my Ubuntu system, so I don't know...
[01:08] <ectospasm> OmegaAlpha:  will that even work in Linux?
[01:08] <OmegaAlpha> ectospasm, dont know.. gonna try..
[01:09] <turtlesoup> ohgood: i would, but things with work are too hectic right now, and i cannot afford any windows box downtime.
[01:09] <ectospasm> OmegaAlpha:  my bet would be no
[01:09] <OmegaAlpha> i need active x to install this windows video driver
[01:09] <ohgood> turtlesoup: but     you're       here :|
[01:09] <turtlesoup> ohgood:.....yes
[01:09] <turtlesoup> ohgood: what is your point :)
[01:10] <OmegaAlpha> crap.. guess im gonna have to get a hold of theguythat made this driver and see if i can get the source then
[01:10] <ohgood> turtlesoup: <shrug> ok, whatever, besides the hours upon hours waiting for windows to defrag itself, the actual 'downtime' for instaling a linux would be maybe 2 hours tops. <shrug again>
[01:11] <ohgood> turtlesoup: i've just noticed folks that claim to have no free time for xyx spend a good deal of time chasing virii, trojans, worms, whatever. :)
[01:11] <turtlesoup> ohgood: i understand your position and agree with it, but there are things on this windows box that are , at this point, non-replaceable. E.G...i donewannatakeanychances
[01:11] <ohgood> turtlesoup:  you don't have backups ?
[01:11] <turtlesoup> ohgood: i have NO problems with malware
[01:12] <turtlesoup> ohgood: yes i have a ton of backups
[01:12] <turtlesoup> ohgood: since i startde using FF a couple years ago, windows has been pretty good
[01:13] <GenneX> hey people
[01:14] <GenneX> anyone know a good site where I can learn more about shell scripting ?
[01:15] <DigitalLF> theres something wrong when i try to start gdm its about the pcibus can any one help me?
[01:15] <DigitalLF> "I810: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found"
[01:15] <daodao> who can tell me how to install scim for ubuntu ?
[01:16] <GenneX> daodao: you can install scim vian Synaptic
[01:16] <TomaszD> hello!
[01:16] <GenneX> *via
[01:16] <TomaszD> any Ubuntu PPC users in here?
[01:18] <ohgood> TomaszD: i'll bet there are some in #ubuntu-ppc or something
[01:18] <TomaszD> ohgood, there are 3 people there and no-one is answering
[01:18] <TomaszD> :)
[01:18] <ohgood> ohhh, now you're just getting picky
[01:18] <TomaszD> yeah, right.
[01:18] <muMatz> GenneX: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:18] <TomaszD> :)
[01:19] <muMatz> should be available in the repos too
[01:19] <TomaszD> I just need this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133702 done. But no-one seems to want to make the effort.
[01:19] <GenneX> muMatz: thank you
[01:20] <theD3viL> if i wanna have kde on ubuntu, can i boot up ubuntu as server installation and install only base, and then what i want? Like debian net install ?
[01:20] <TomaszD> theD3viL, of course.
[01:20] <ompaul> theD3viL, yes, install "server" which is the base
[01:20] <TomaszD> after server install you can go with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:21] <ompaul> theD3viL, that will give you a nice narrow platform to do what TomaszD said
[01:21] <theD3viL> TomaszD: what about, when ill upgrading ... will i have to download ubuntu-desktop if i will have ubuntu? I must download kubuntu then?
[01:21] <TomaszD> theD3viL, it doesn't matter if you get ubuntu or kubuntu if you make a server install.
[01:21] <ompaul> theD3viL, no you just upgrade the packages you have installed
[01:22] <GenneX> TomaszD: All you want is someone to create a .deb for you ?
[01:22] <tomasz> hi - W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> - how to fix it ?
[01:22] <TomaszD> having kubuntu-desktop installed will insure proper dist-upgrade.
[01:22] <theD3viL> ompaul, TomaszD: what is then different at kubuntu server install ?
[01:22] <TomaszD> GenneX, yes.
[01:22] <DigitalLF> hm... help me out... in kB how much is 128mb?
[01:22] <Aragorn_Guardian> i neeeeeeed help with usb devices....
[01:22] <shikamaru85> i tried to use ndiswrapper graphical installer and after i select the inf file and insert the usb wifi adapter...it still says no device found
[01:22] <GenneX> TomaszD: I am atm building a source code, once I am done I will have a look at it for you
[01:22] <ompaul> theD3viL, nothing, if you want kubuntu, if you want ubuntu that is the point where they cease having things in common
[01:22] <shikamaru85> do i have to do anything next?
[01:23] <TomaszD> GenneX, thanks!
[01:23] <Aragorn_Guardian> kubuntu is more user friendly..:/
[01:23] <ompaul> theD3viL,  that is not exactly 100% accurate but from a gnome /kde perspective it holds true
[01:23] <shikamaru85> does the fact that i have eth0 have any influence? i'm getting kinda desperate...i've been trying everything and anything
[01:23] <Aragorn_Guardian> gnome is nice...but kde is easy
[01:23] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: yes, if you install all.
[01:23] <TomaszD> GenneX, I hope you did notice that I need a PowerPC package? :)
[01:23] <shikamaru85> and still nothing
[01:23] <ompaul> kde  is pure eye kandy
[01:23] <DigitalLF> 128mb in kB is?
[01:24] <GenneX> TomaszD: Nod
[01:24] <theD3viL> ompaul: hm..so it is more recommended i install kubuntu ?
[01:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> the both hasve too many goodies to hack... :)
[01:24] <TomaszD> DigitalLF, 131072KB
[01:24] <shikamaru85> DigitalLF, 131072 K
[01:24] <TomaszD> :)
[01:24] <DigitalLF> TomaszD shikamaru85 thx
[01:25] <ompaul> theD3viL, no there is no difference between server and kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu as an end product
[01:25] <shikamaru85> DigitalLF no prob
[01:25] <shikamaru85> has anyone used ndiswrapper's graphical installer available in the repositories?
[01:25] <theD3viL> ompaul: can be NTFS write enabled in ubuntu ? .. i have to copy some files now,...
[01:26] <GenneX> TomaszD: Doing it on a remote server at work, so you will just have to test it ..
[01:26] <abeschenck> hi, new to linux. convert from macos10.4, any suggestions for an itunes clone?
[01:27] <ompaul> theD3viL, no, it is not supported, it may break your Ubuntu and or Windows, in Dapper which is still being developed it should be available - and no you should not run dapper if you need stability
[01:27] <TomaszD> GenneX, the point of the matter is that I won't be able to test it anywhere but thanks very much anyway. If you do everything by the book then it must work properly.
[01:27] <Aragorn_Guardian> theD3viL:  i use for this another distro, in live cd...is insert cd...
[01:27] <colm> my printer page is being cut off about 1cm short at the bottom.  The printer is a canon S520, the driver I'm using is S500.  The printer is capable of borderless printing, so this should not be a problem.  Can't find anywhere I can tweak the options  - any insights?
[01:27] <theD3viL> ompaul: i wont upgrade to dapper, until 20april
[01:27] <GenneX> TomaszD: nod, so you wont be able to test it until you install it on the computer then ??
[01:28] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: is it works?
[01:28] <ompaul> theD3viL, the day after wait for the torrents to be full :)
[01:28] <asterisk99> Anyone point me in right direction... I have a program I want to start automatically on ubuntu (hopefully with su priviledges)
[01:28] <TomaszD> GenneX, hah you know, I only have i386 and AMD64 to play with. If I had ppc I wouldn't be asking for a favour.
[01:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> theD3viL:  it make the job and has info in how is made...could make the same after in ubuntu...
[01:28] <theD3viL> ompaul: ill dist-upgrade :)
[01:28] <GenneX> TomaszD: lol, ok
[01:28] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: cool :)
[01:29] <abeschenck> can anyone suggest an itunes clone?
[01:29] <odat> anyone ever had trouble with the built in nvidia chip called nv18?
[01:29] <theD3viL> abeschenck: xmms, bmp
[01:29] <TomaszD> GenneX, yes I will be able to test the package but only to some extent, there is no "check if this package works properly for sure" command :)
[01:29] <shikamaru85> tried ndiswrapper graphical installer...went to System -> Admin -> Networking and my usb card still doesn't show
[01:29] <shikamaru85> any ideas?
[01:29] <GenneX> TomaszD: I will install it on the server and test it for you ...
[01:29] <ompaul> asterisk99, that sounds like you want to run a daemon what program is it?
[01:29] <theD3viL> ompaul: you will clean install ubuntu after dapper will be stable?
[01:29] <asterisk99> ompaul: asterisk
[01:30] <TomaszD> GenneX, thanks, If the program starts up without complaining about iconsets not being found then it works 100%.
[01:30] <ompaul> theD3viL, your last comment is confusing, I will do an upgrade on 21april but I will have dapper on disk before hand
[01:31] <odat> anyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 
[01:31] <theD3viL> ompaul: you will upgrade, but why you will need cd then ?
[01:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> theD3viL:  i need help with usb...:(
[01:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> my external usb cd writer...dont works...:(
[01:31] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: what kind ?
[01:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> hp 8200
[01:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> pendrive worked in /dev/sda...but cd dont appear here
[01:32] <theD3viL> hm
[01:32] <ompaul> asterisk99, is should just start once installed  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportAsterisk /etc/init.d/asterisk start is one way
[01:32] <ompaul> asterisk99, I see no reason for it not to
[01:32] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: try to mount it with /dev/sda1,2,3..
[01:33] <jacquesmerde> is the nvidia-glx package going to be fixed to work with dapper, or vice versa?
[01:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> theD3viL:  /dev/sda is not here..:/ and i have rebooted with cd in box...but nothing...
[01:34] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: hm..try to remove all usb SPECIAL dev...mp3, usb-key....and then plugin
[01:35] <shikamaru85> my usb card doesnt show up in lspci...is that important???
[01:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...nice..gonna try...thanks
[01:35] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: k..i must boot in knoppix...to try if works writing into NTFS.
[01:35] <theD3viL> brb
[01:36] <GenneX> TomaszD: Ok, started compiling, should only take a few mins
[01:36] <TomaszD> GenneX, got a quad g5 there? ;)
[01:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...
[01:37] <shikamaru85> does anyone know y a usb wifi adapter shows up in lsusb but not in lspci???
[01:37] <Aragorn_Guardian> the ntfs read write are just few options...
[01:37] <shikamaru85> uos
[01:37] <asterisk99> ompaul: I have that file in etc/init.d .... does that mean asterisk should have started during boot? if not, where do I look for error messages?
[01:37] <shikamaru85> ups...reading howtos and not even thinking
[01:37] <GenneX> TomaszD: rofl, didn't check the size of it to estimate compile time, so I presume it is quite large then
[01:37] <TomaszD> shikamaru85, because lspci shows PCI devices and lsusb USB devices.
[01:38] <TomaszD> GenneX, no don't worry, shouldn't take more then a quarter...
[01:38] <TomaszD> *longer
[01:38] <TomaszD> sorry English isn't my native language.
[01:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> and you copy some files from the self windows ...works fine... ;)
[01:38] <shikamaru85> TomaszD, exactly....reading a howto and it's not exactly fitted to my situation but i'm really desperate here
[01:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> maybe need work in kernel...maybe to ubuntu recognize...
[01:39] <GenneX> TomaszD: well I am not in a hurry, have all day ..
[01:39] <TomaszD> cool.
[01:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> i have parport in modules...could conflit with usbcore????
[01:41] <bungle> !repos
[01:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:41] <dentist> I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" when installing from the install cd.. any ideas?
[01:42] <asterisk99> ompaul: I have etc/init.d/asterisk already .... does that mean asterisk should have started during boot? if not, where do I look for error messages?
[01:43] <bungle> how can i fix my repos keep getting errors
[01:44] <HCl> how can i force the installing of an old version of a program?
[01:44] <iBalo> bungle: get a fresh sources.list from !easysource
[01:45] <bungle> !easysource
[01:45] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:45] <shikamaru85> how do u rename a file in terminal?
[01:46] <GenneX> TomaszD: where do I send the file to ?
[01:46] <ompaul> asterisk99, if it fails it means you have not got it installed and cofigured correctly - check with the following command "ps auwx | grep asterisk" and install something called Boot Up Manger for managing turning on and off services
[01:46] <TomaszD> GenneX, dominikowski<at>gmail<dot>com
[01:46] <ompaul> asterisk99, sudo apt-get install bum
[01:46] <GenneX> TomaszD: send
[01:46] <ana_rotariu> dsjgjd
[01:46] <muMatz> shikamaru85: mv <oldname> <newname>
[01:47] <GenneX> TomaszD: might take a while to go through our server due to the size
[01:47] <dentist> mmm it failed a integrety check
[01:47] <dentist> is there a special way to burn the iso?
[01:47] <TomaszD> GenneX, ok, but it will eventually go through I hope? :)
[01:48] <bungle> iBalo, i have generated the list now what do i do?
[01:48] <ompaul> dentist, there is check the iso before hand emm hang on a sec til I get you some urls
[01:48] <iBalo> bungle: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:48] <dentist> great.. thanks OmniColos
[01:48] <dentist> oops.. ompaul
[01:48] <bungle> ok
[01:49] <GenneX> TomaszD: nod, .deb files aren't blocked cause all our servers run on debian-based distros
[01:49] <babo> hi guys, any bash scripters out there ??
[01:49] <iBalo> and then paste the list and overwrite the previous content
[01:49] <Kouwe> can someone help me with installing "Ninan" ?
[01:49] <TomaszD> GenneX, ok.
[01:50] <ompaul> dentist, are you on Linux or Windows?
[01:50] <babo> echo `while read job_description ; do php -r 'echo (urlencode($job_description));' ; done ` > job_description    doesn't work for some reason
[01:51] <shikamaru85> how do i now if echi is enabled??
[01:51] <shikamaru85> sorry ehci
[01:51] <woody> ninan is a P2P?
[01:51] <odat> anyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 
[01:52] <dentist> ompaul - im on winbloze
[01:52] <dentist> atm anyways
[01:52] <Kouwe> woody, usenet binary downloader*
[01:53] <shikamaru85> how do i disable ehci driver??
[01:53] <woody> hummm
[01:53] <ompaul> dentist, http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm that will sort out that problem for you, you can't burn using Windows Media player .. and it is "burn image" not file
[01:53] <abeschenck> so I am trying to install this xmms and it says I dont have glib, so I tried to insallt glib and it still says that I dont have glib
[01:53] <woody> i encountered de official website and i'm read this
[01:54] <ompaul> dentist, I don't do windows these are just clues I have absorbed
[01:54] <GenneX> well I am off, time to learn some bash scripting
[01:54] <asterisk99> ompaul: apt-get install bum  [01:54] <ompaul> asterisk99, on minute please
[01:54] <rodney_> Howdy.  Has any seen problems in Dapper4 with Evolution's Date Format?  It gives me MM/DD/YYYY but wants DD/MM/YYYY in return.
[01:55] <stoned> wtf is with my connection
[01:55] <dentist> ompaul - cheers, i used nero must have done something wrong
[01:55] <ompaul> !tell asterisk99 about universe
[01:56] <NicePics> How stable is flight4? I am testing the live-cd and it seems good enough to update my breezy system. Comments?
[01:56] <ompaul> dentist, k
[01:56] <ulrik> heya ppl..
[01:56] <ompaul> asterisk99, have a look at the message from the bot
[01:56] <rodney_> I'm using flight4 on amd64 and it is nice
[01:56] <ompaul> NicePics, it could be great today and be dead tomorrow
[01:56] <ulrik> does anyone know the motivation for keeping the latest ATI-driver out of dapper?
[01:56] <Kouwe> wy dont i have my JAVA 1.4 in -> /usr/local/java1.4
[01:56] <Kouwe> where is it?
[01:56] <ulrik> (fglrx, that is)
[01:56] <zetard> how do i access my boot.ini to edit it for being able to boot into windows? (Adding right partitions)
[01:57] <ompaul> ulrik, no clue maybe it ain't made it in yet
[01:57] <pdc303> zetard: mount the drive. Unless it's ntfs...?
[01:57] <ompaul> ulrik, the ati factiod has a page with some interesting stuff on it
 Did you do a clean install, dist-upgrade or what?
[01:57] <zetard> its ntfs :(
[01:57] <ulrik> ompaul: allrighty.. :) any links?
[01:58] <ompaul> !tell ulrik about ati
[01:58] <ompaul> ulrik, read what the bot sent ya
[01:58] <odat> anyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 
[01:58] <pdc303> zetard: then mount the ntfs drive and edit your boot.ini. You will not be able to save it back though. Get NTFSDOS or something to copy the file back across
[01:58] <Kouwe> how can i see my java directory?!
[01:58] <ompaul> !tell odat about nvidia
[01:59] <ompaul> odat, read the page on how to do it correctly
[01:59] <pdc303> zetard: Linux can write to NTFS partitions too but it isn't considered safe
[01:59] <ompaul> odat, the bot just sent you a message
[01:59] <ulrik> ompaul: allrighty.. thanks.. :)
[01:59] <pdc303> Q: what is the equivelent of fdisk /mbr ?
[01:59] <meisam> hi guys ..where can i find a g++ tutorial
[01:59] <meisam> ?
[01:59] <meisam> please i
[01:59] <odat> ompaul, thanx but i'm having a problem not a newbie question
[02:00] <MarcN> meisam: do you really need it to be g++ specific?  Any C++ book would do.
[02:01] <asterisk99> ompaul: assuning command is sudo !tell asterisk      bash: !tell asterisk: event not found
[02:01] <ompaul> meisam, don't use enter as punctuation please, http://www.cs.wm.edu/cspages/computing/tutorial/gpp.html
[02:02] <MarcN> pdc303: you want to lay down a bootloader?  Read up on grub
[02:02] <ompaul> asterisk99, sorry don't understand  >>/msg ubotu FOO<< where foo is a command if there is something there
[02:02] <meisam> MarcN no  imean someyhin` help me for g++ compiler sth that i work on ubuntu
[02:02] <pdc303> MarcN: No. A hard disk is screwed
[02:02] <Exxpert> if i would like to run xgl and compiz,, should i use breezy or dapper? any difference?
[02:02] <asterisk99> ompaul: ya lost me  :/
[02:02] <ompaul> meisam, if you want to install it the command line is >> sudo apt-get install build-essential<< just like in debian
[02:03] <pdc303> MarcN: Some programs detect it as ntfs (correct), but some say ext2. It will not mount in Linux or Windows. I guess the MBR is broken
[02:03] <ompaul> asterisk99, you got me lost first - what was that assuming stuff?
[02:03] <meisam> ompaul i have installed it
[02:03] <meisam> i dun know how to execute
[02:04] <hatake_kakashi> pdc303: with careful settings, you maybe able to recover the data back provided that you know what you have set previously for the partitions via fdisk/cfdisk/parted
[02:04] <MarcN> pdc303: it is possible for one disk to have multiple partitions.  Those partitions can be set for ntfs, ext3, etc.  one disk can have many partitions so that may be what you are seeing.
[02:04] <asterisk99> ompaul: sorry ... I didn;t usderstand your "!tell asterisk99 about universe" above
[02:04] <ompaul> meisam, so the url I sent you but this is #ubuntu #g++ or #gcc would be much better for what yoiur looking for  (g++ -o executablefilenameNoDotsNeededNotWindows my_prog.cpp)
[02:05] <babo> what does it mean when a file in bash shows up as black-on-red ?
[02:05] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: it makes the bot 'ubotu' tell you about specific things.. 'universe' is an argument to parse the bot to tell you the required information
[02:05] <Versed> morn
[02:05] <pdc303> MarcN: No. It only contains 1 NTFS partition. I have salvaged my important data. Now I just want my hard disk to be usable once again
[02:05] <ompaul> asterisk99, you have a message (query) from ubotu - it gives you the details
[02:05] <hatake_kakashi> babo: try 'file foo'
[02:05] <meisam> ompaul thanks man
[02:06] <hatake_kakashi> pdc303: its somewhat possible if your hard disk supports smartctl. Most hard disks do support smartctl, but depends on which
[02:06] <pdc303> hatake_kakashi:  what is somewhat possible? I just want to fix/clean the mbr
[02:06] <ulrik> ompaul: hmm, well this didn't really explain what's holding the latest fglrx out of the dapper archives, though.. ;)
[02:07] <babo> hatake_kakashi: thanks ... it's a broken symbolic link. I'm having serious trouble trying to get my apache server running ... can someone help
[02:07] <manuele> ciao a tutti prima volta su ubuntu aiutoooooooooo
[02:07] <hatake_kakashi> pdc303: hmm.. I'm not sure of the fdisk /mbr then
[02:07] <ompaul> ulrik, no it did not but it might get you somewhere if your stuck #ubuntu-motu might be a better place to try and get to grips with the dev aspect of it
[02:07] <manuele> come ad aggiornare firefox????
[02:07] <hatake_kakashi> babo: nfi, I haven't setup apache before
[02:07] <manuele> grazie
[02:08] <hatake_kakashi> !tell manuele about es
[02:08] <ompaul> ulrik, or have a look at dapper objectives or some such on the wiki
[02:08] <shikamaru85> when i do a iwconfig i get a eth0,lo and sit0...can someone tell me what sit0 is?
[02:08] <ulrik> ompaul: might be an idea, yes.. :)
[02:08] <babo> Can anyone help me with an apache setup  ?
[02:08] <odat> anyone ever had trouble with the built in NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 
[02:08] <ulrik> ompaul: is there a way to find out who's maintaining a certain package?
[02:08] <manuele> I don't know how upgrade firefox
[02:09] <robotgeek> ulrik: apt-cache show <package>
[02:09] <hatake_kakashi> manuele: to which version? latest?
[02:09] <manuele> I download the file and after
[02:09] <manuele> yeah
[02:09] <ompaul> ulrik,  apt-cache show foo
[02:09] <ulrik> robotgeek: sweet.. thanks.. :)
[02:09] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: don't worry about sit0
[02:09] <Exxpert> anyone that used xgl in here?,
[02:09] <hatake_kakashi> !tell manuele about firefox1.5
[02:09] <manuele> yes
[02:09] <hatake_kakashi> manuele: did you follow that guide?
[02:09] <ompaul> !tell manuele about ff1.5
[02:10] <manuele> yes
[02:10] <ompaul> manuele, read the message fromthe bot
[02:10] <ulrik> Exxpert: tried, but it's really unstable for me.. I suspect fglrx to be responsible.. :)
[02:10] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, it's just that i used ndiswrapper..it finds the hardware...i try to configure network and nothing apears besides eth0
[02:10] <asterisk99> !tell asterisk99 about universe
[02:10] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: ndiswrapper -l, shows the card?
[02:11] <Exxpert> ulrik: if i would like to run xgl and compiz,, should i use breezy or dapper? any difference?
[02:11] <ghepa> with the command line eject i can eject the cd tray, is there even a way to mount the cd-rom tray from the command line (or keyboard shortcuts)?
[02:11] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: anyways, don't the original drivers work?
[02:11] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, it shows Installed ndis drivers:
[02:11] <shikamaru85> rt2500usb       driver present, hardware present
[02:11] <Exxpert> ulrik: Cant find a good answer:/
[02:11] <linuxaddicts> need a clarification
[02:12] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: cool, looks like it's working :)
[02:12] <robotgeek> shikamaru85, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:12] <Exxpert> ulrik: I Searched around ubuntuforums:-(
[02:12] <jacquesmerde> anyone here got nvidia-glx working with dapper? does it require a symlink or something?
[02:12] <linuxaddicts> http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Flight_CD_4_s63908.html
[02:12] <asterisk99> ompaul: now I understand... it's a command to launch an IRC bot ---- only one problem, the answer is: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, asterisk99
[02:13] <ulrik> Exxpert: you should definately go for dapper..
[02:13] <linuxaddicts> is this the latest release?
[02:13] <linuxaddicts> ulrik,
[02:13] <linuxaddicts> or Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger"
[02:13] <ulrik> Exxpert: be warned, though.. Xgl is HIGHLY experimental.. wouldn't advise it unless you're already running dapper for other reasons.
[02:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need a professuinal help with usb :)
[02:13] <ompaul> asterisk99, I am going to lunch I asked the bot to send you a message along time ago about universe - do this >>msg ubotu universe<< you need that for bum
[02:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> i found this file: usb.ids....wanna know how i can use it to detect my device...
[02:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> :(
[02:14] <viviersf> what would you guys say is the best tv program
[02:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> ops... s/ssui/ssio/g
[02:14] <viviersf> for linux ?
[02:14] <viviersf> and thats in the repos ?
[02:14] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, so it's normal not to show eth1 or wlan0 in networking?
[02:15] <Exxpert> ulrik: alright, is it not possible to run xgl on the breezy?
[02:15] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: does iwconfig list it?
[02:15] <ulrik> linuxaddicts: well, it's the latest unstable built CD, yes.. Breezy is the latest stable release..
[02:15] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, nop :(
[02:15] <ulrik> Exxpert: everything's possible.. ;)
[02:15] <robotgeek> linuxaddicts: please turn off your public away, we are not interested :)
[02:15] <viviersf> linuxaddicts, addict is using MIRC :`(
[02:15] <Exxpert> ulrik: but harder, right?
[02:15] <meisam> ompaul my terminal is not responding to my command like cd ...
[02:15] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: then i think you have a problem
[02:15] <robotgeek> linuxaddicts: ^^
[02:16] <linuxaddicts> hi
[02:16] <linuxaddicts> i'm @ work on MS
[02:16] <linuxaddicts> so mIRC
[02:16] <viviersf> linuxaddicts, why you using mirc you trator
[02:16] <linuxaddicts> :(
[02:16] <ompaul> meisam, what did you do last?
[02:16] <ulrik> Exxpert: definately harder.. you'll pretty much have to compile everything from scratch, I think..
[02:16] <viviersf> xchat for ms dude
[02:16] <robotgeek> ouch
[02:16] <ghepa> Does anyone know how to mount the cd-tray from the command line (or with keyboard shortcuts) ???
[02:16] <ulrik> Exxpert: (including a LOT of deps..)
[02:16] <meisam> ompaul hold on please.. i let u know
[02:16] <Seveas> robotgeek, plublic away is considered kick-on-sight since it becomes very annoying very quickly
[02:17] <viviersf> ghepa, mount /dev/cdrom /media/
[02:17] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: why don't we try to compile the rt2x000 drivers?
[02:17] <robotgeek> Seveas: i'll keep that in mind :)
[02:17] <Exxpert> ulrik: btw.. using amd x64 and thinking,, is it worth it to use a x64 distro? o should i go with the usual dapperdist?
[02:17] <viviersf> linuxaddicts, use xchat for MS then plz
[02:17] <viviersf> :)
[02:17] <ghepa> cool viviersf! it works! thank you...
[02:17] <asterisk99> ompaul: aha!!! the porch light goes on...  I need to add a repository to synaptics in order to apt-get bum
[02:17] <linuxaddicts> 'll do
[02:17] <Seveas> or a less stupid mirc script
[02:18] <viviersf> ghepa, mp
[02:18] <ompaul> asterisk99, sudo apt-get install bum
[02:18] <Exxpert> ulrik: thinking of drivers and so on..
[02:18] <ulrik> Exxpert: actually I don't know.. never tried AMD64, and don't really know what problems/benefits it might give you..
[02:18] <meisam> ompaul meisam@ubuntumeisam:~$ /home/meisam/g++ workspace/m.cc
[02:18] <meisam> bash: /home/meisam/g++: No such file or directory
[02:18] <meisam> ompaul oh sorry
[02:18] <ghepa> viviersf: is there a way to mount it with a keyboard shortcut?
[02:18] <robotgeek> meisam: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:19] <robotgeek> meisam: oops, sorry
[02:19] <asterisk99> ompaul: got that :)
[02:19] <ompaul> robotgeek, can you look after him I need food or I will fall down :)
[02:19] <viviersf> ghepa, erm you can prolly make a shortcut for the command, but i dont know how to in gnome
[02:19] <ompaul> asterisk99, enjoy
[02:19] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, see that's the prob suposedly i should be using rt2570
[02:19] <robotgeek> ompaul: sure
[02:19] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: maybe not, rt2x00 is the combined driver
[02:20] <ghepa> i'll take a look, thanks again
[02:20] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, that sound good..any howto like the other u just sent me?
[02:20] <meisam> ompaul meisam@ubuntumeisam:~$ cd ~/home/meisam/g++ workspace/m.cc
[02:20] <meisam> bash: cd: /home/meisam/home/meisam/g++: No such file or directory
[02:20] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: moment
[02:20] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, tks!
[02:20] <robotgeek> meisam: which g++
[02:20] <eXcessive-> Are there any DC++ -like clients for Ubuntu?
[02:20] <Exxpert> ulrik: Thanks for the help,, downloading now the i386 version of dapper..
[02:21] <robotgeek> eXcessive-: dcgui
[02:21] <ulrik> Exxpert: allrighty.. :)
[02:21] <Seveas> eXcessive-, valknut (dcgui-qt in breezy, valknut in dapper)
[02:21] <asterisk99> ompaul: well, according to bum, asterisk is alreday there ... so it must be blowing up
[02:21] <Sonobana> theres also dcpp
[02:22] <meisam> robotgeek no im not talking about the g++... ineed to know why the command cd is ngetting error when im using that
[02:22] <meisam> ?
[02:22] <robotgeek> meisam: what are you trying to do, actually?
[02:22] <eXcessive-> sudo apt-get install dcgui - is that right?
[02:22] <meisam> robotgeek did u get it?
[02:22] <robotgeek> meisam: maybe you need to tab-complete your paths, to escape the spaces
[02:22] <meisam> robotgeek how..i cant get u
[02:23] <meisam> robotgeek how can i get into the home directory
[02:23] <saik0> eXcessive-, I know theres a DC++ linux beta client. Grabbed it from hoary backports last time i used it
[02:24] <meisam> robotgeek or somewhere else
[02:24] <robotgeek> meisam: type cd ~/g++\ workspace
[02:24] <meisam> robotgeek isn`t with cd
[02:24] <robotgeek> meisam: and you can't cd to a file
[02:25] <meisam> so u mean i should be aware odf space?
[02:25] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500/DriverAndRaconfig
[02:26] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, went to ralink...says 2x00 highly experimental
[02:26] <meisam> robotgeek all right then i ned to write g+
[02:26] <meisam> +
[02:26] <meisam> V yeah?
[02:26] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: hmm, okay.
[02:28] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: yeah, try with the rt2750 driver (using same instructions, i guess)
[02:28] <robotgeek> shimmmy: Fedora Core 4 	2.6.11-1.1369 	managed
[02:28] <robotgeek> my bad, sorry
[02:28] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, tks..i'll try
[02:28] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: WL-107G is your card?
[02:29] <drcurl> Hi
[02:29] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: if so, the rt2570 should work :)
[02:30] <drcurl> I finally decide to use Ubuntu. At begining, I found it slow but everything work so well that I can't resist ;) I will just buy some more RAM
[02:31] <shikamaru85> robotgeek, WL-167G :S
[02:31] <drcurl> I have a problem with networking though. I have static ip at work and dhcp at home. After I enable dhcp with the dhcplient at home, I have to reconfigure my internet at work and reboot to get networking. Any easier solution?
[02:32] <robotgeek> shikamaru85: http://ralink.rapla.net/ so the rt2570 should work
[02:34] <thoeger> hey there - I just dist-upgraded to dapper, and I did it in a very dirty way, so no surprise I'm in trouble... It's not much though. But my desktop looks awful, the background is drawn very badly.
[02:35] <jacquesmerde> is it ln -s file newlink, or ln -s newlink file?
[02:35] <hardsleep0r> re
[02:35] <thoeger> ...It helps temporarily when I kill nautilus, so I guess that'ts a clue. But also, with nautilus dead, it draws badly behins my transparent panel
[02:36] <thoeger> Any idea what might be wrong?
[02:37] <Acidic32> jacquesmerde: ln -s /file/to/link/to /this/is/the/newlink
[02:38] <jacquesmerde> Acidic32: i got no such file or directory. the first file existed!
[02:39] <jacquesmerde> Acidic32: oops. i'm an idiot. subdirectory of the newlink didnt exist yet
[02:43] <airjump> hello
[02:43] <kitty__> hi.. i want to know if its possible to set what would be the windows start button on my keyboard to type a word when i hit it?
[02:43] <meisam> could u help me?
[02:43] <airjump> i search a good link for dualhead Information
[02:45] <dentist> hmz, default root password?
[02:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell dentist about root
[02:45] <dentist> i see, interesting concept
[02:46] <thoeger> Bump... Any idea why my desktop background is drawn incorrectly (to put it mildly)?
[02:47] <_jason> thoeger: have you installed your video drivers?
[02:47] <chromebuntu> gents, I have a problem with apt-get
[02:47] <chromebuntu>   cedega: Depends: xlibs (> 4.1.0) but it is not installable
[02:47] <chromebuntu> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[02:47] <chromebuntu> I'm installing on dapper, so xlibs have changed, how do I tell apt-get not to worry about it? Its working fine
[02:47] <Seveas> chromebuntu, get a cedega deb that is made for Ubuntu
[02:47] <chromebuntu> it is just looking for the wrong libs.
[02:48] <chromebuntu> Seveas: yeah, this one is, but like I said - i'm crazy, and running dapper :)
[02:48] <Seveas> chromebuntu, live on the edge: dpkg -i --force-depends bla.deb
[02:49] <chromebuntu> Seveas: hmm, yeah I did that to install, but now apt-get gives me this whinge when I want to install something else, like openssh-server :)
[02:49] <dentist> uhm... well it seems the setup didn't adjust sudoers, as i can run sudo as that user
[02:49] <chromebuntu> and I cant say "Shut up, its fine"
[02:49] <thoeger> _jason: Yes, and my panel and normal apps are working correctly. Just the background that is drawn as a mish-mash of the wallpaper and parts of the applications windows. And when I kill nautilus and the transparent panel, the wallpaper is just fine
[02:50] <chromebuntu> I might have to dist-upgrade back to breezy until dapper is released? :)
[02:51] <Seveas> chromebuntu, use equivs to create a dummy xlibs package
[02:51] <Seveas> that'll shut apt-get up
[02:51] <theD3viL> Seveas: hey. Did you dist-upgrade yet? :)
[02:51] <Seveas> theD3viL, no
[02:51] <chromebuntu> Seveas: AHA! I knew dpkg could do that. How do I use equivs?if you point me to a manpage I'll be fine
[02:51] <Seveas> I
[02:52] <Seveas> I'm strong, I resist 
[02:52] <theD3viL> Seveas: hehe, .. well, maybe do you know, how to copy from ext3 to ntfs ?
[02:52] <Seveas> chromebuntu, man equivs-build; man equivs-control
[02:52] <meisam> sorry guys... is there any option to change the font color or font size in text editor?
[02:52] <dentist> i dont get it.. sudo passwd root, prompts for a passwd?
[02:52] <chromebuntu> Seveas: thanks very much
[02:52] <Seveas> dentist, it'll prompt 3 times
[02:52] <chromebuntu> aha No manual entry for equivs-build :)
[02:53] <chromebuntu> i think its an optional package :)
[02:53] <Seveas> dentist, 1st time: enter your password, sencond and third time: enter the new root password
[02:53] <emily> some how all my user .dmrc files have an error that says that it has the wrong permissions, and should be owned by user and have permissions 644, how do i fix this?
[02:53] <dentist> it just says "Password" - then says incorrect
[02:53] <Seveas> chromebuntu, apt-get install equivs
[02:53] <dentist> after the first prompt it says "sorry, try again."
[02:53] <_jason> dentist: optimally, you wouldn't do that and just use sudo.  But the password it prompts for is your user password
[02:53] <sven_> emily: chown user:usergroup .dmrc && chmod 644 .dmrc
[02:53] <airjump> hi one question tcpdump need root what is the password on the live cd
[02:53] <sven_> airjump: use sudo tcpdump
[02:54] <dentist> *DOH*
[02:54] <dentist> lmfao
[02:54] <airjump> ok
[02:54] <dentist> i'm quite ashamed
[02:54] <dentist> i blame it on the manual, it didn't tell me that!
[02:55] <airjump> thanks sven_
[02:55] <sven_> in xorg, ctrl+alt+F1 has no effect (it should switch to vt1). ctrl+alt+backspace works. i have not disabled ctrl+alt+fn in my xorg.conf. what gives? xorg 6.8.2-77, ubuntu breezy.
[02:55] <_jason> dentist: that just means you didn't even try sudo once before running back to using root :)
[02:55] <theD3viL> sven_: i think your keyboard layout is problem.
[02:55] <emily> sven_: do I sub user:usergroup with emily:emily?
[02:55] <sven_> emily: yes
[02:56] <chromebuntu> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9048
[02:56] <sven_> theD3viL: okay? any idea how to diagnose?
[02:56] <emily> thanks
[02:56] <bigfoot1> anybody know a quick way to add one single flie to a pocket pc? (I don't need syncing of all data.. just one single mp3 file)?
[02:56] <chromebuntu> Seveas: same problem :)
[02:56] <meisam> _jason hi jason seems everybody is busy...would u please tell me the name of the channel for eclipse
[02:57] <_jason> meisam: #eclipse maybe
[02:57] <emily> sven_:what would cause this to happen?
[02:57] <sven_> emily: many things. difficult to say
[02:57] <meisam> _jason thanks
[02:58] <emily> ok thats I am going to try to re login...
[02:58] <theD3viL> sven_: hm...which layout you have ?
[02:58] <sven_> theD3viL: us dvorak
[02:59] <sven_> theD3viL: i have used it in debian and whatnot, without any problems
[02:59] <theD3viL> sven_: what about keys .. do you have 105 ?
[02:59] <sven_> oh, maybe that has something to say. let me check it out
[03:00] <sven_> pc104
[03:00] <theD3viL> try 105
[03:00] <sven_> ok
[03:00] <theD3viL> you must restart X
[03:00] <Seveas> chromebuntu, dpkg -P cedega, apt-get -f install
[03:01] <sven_> no effect, theD3viL. after restart and all
[03:01] <theD3viL> sven_: hm..weird...
[03:01] <sven_> my ctrl+alt+f1 sequence sends these codes:  0x1b 0x1b 0x5b 0x31 0x31 0x5e
[03:01] <theD3viL> sven_: what if you try other layout ?
[03:02] <sven_> theD3viL: well.. it sounds strange that it should be the layout.. but i can give it a shot.
[03:02] <sven_> i have, however, seen other forum posts with the exact same problem.. no solution, though.
[03:02] <dentist> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[03:02] <theD3viL> sven_: i am not sure but you can test :)
[03:02] <chromebuntu> Seveas: ouch, removed cedega haha
[03:02] <dentist> sudo apt-get install gdm x-window-system-core xterm icewm menu mozilla-firefox abiword synaptic
[03:02] <dentist> returns cannot find icewm
[03:02] <sven_> theD3viL: i'll let you know if i figure it out
[03:02] <dentist> i've done a apt-get update
[03:02] <Seveas> chromebuntu, you need to reinstall it later anyway
[03:02] <theD3viL> sven_: okey, tnx
[03:02] <chromebuntu> oh well can at least install equivs now.
[03:03] <cradek> !icewm
[03:03] <ubotu> cradek: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> i think i need recompile the kernel.;..:/
[03:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> ohw can i do that???
[03:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> what package must install???
[03:04] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: hi :)
[03:04] <theD3viL> Arafangion: kernel-package
[03:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> theD3viL:  hi...still unusbed... :(
[03:04] <theD3viL> whoops
[03:04] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: kernel-package
[03:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> hehehe
[03:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> ok
[03:04] <theD3viL> still what ? :P
[03:04] <dentist> nm found out why
[03:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> i found this in a usb resource...
[03:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> stil without my usb...hehehehe
[03:05] <theD3viL> oh...
[03:05] <theD3viL> :)
[03:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> Ok under kernel 2.4.0-test10 works fine with a mod to the makefile under usb/storage Add -DCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_HP8200e to the EXTRA_CFLAGS and recompile... Mine is compiled into the kernel and hotplugging works fine with NO additives. All done under RH 6
[03:05] <theD3viL> hope it will works
[03:05] <kestas> will dapper have GNOME 2.14?
[03:05] <theD3viL> you have 2.4 kernel ??
[03:05] <kestas> because GNOME 2.14 looks niiice
[03:05] <theD3viL> kestas: yes
[03:05] <kestas> excellent :)
[03:05] <theD3viL> :)
[03:05] <Seveas> kestas, Ubuntu and gnome go hand in hand
[03:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice question...1 min
[03:05] <theD3viL> Seveas: not in server install, right ?
[03:05] <kestas> Seveas, ohh right I memember now
[03:05] <kestas> remember
[03:06] <nm> gnome's hand isn't in ubuntu's hand
[03:06] <nm> ubuntu just sort of lays their hands on gnome
[03:06] <nm> ;D
[03:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> 2.6.10
[03:06] <chromebuntu> Error during the build process: Inappropriate ioctl for device at /usr/bin/equivs-build line 180, <IN> line 33.
[03:06] <chromebuntu> ah hahaha
[03:06] <chromebuntu> this is not my day
[03:07] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: hm..dont know =/Z
[03:07] <TueM> ragazzi c' qualcuno che mi sa dire come fare agg il fire fox
[03:07] <Ramunas> hello people
[03:07] <TueM> una volta scaricato il file ??
[03:07] <_jason> !fr
[03:07] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:07] <Ramunas> is dapper stable enought for me to test it?
[03:07] <TueM> DOV' L'ESEGUIBILE
[03:07] <Ramunas> *enough
[03:08] <theD3viL> Ramunas: do not use dapper until it is not stable
[03:08] <Ramunas> i know that its not stable
[03:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> theD3viL:  kernel-package cames with all i need....
[03:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> ??
[03:08] <Ramunas> im using breezy now, and i got a bit bored
[03:08] <theD3viL> Ramunas: it has some bugs...so
[03:08] <Ramunas> so i thought i`d test dapper out
[03:08] <theD3viL> Ramunas: then do eyecandy if you are bored :)
[03:09] <TueM> what they use to listen mp3 and to use p2p
[03:09] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: nope, gcc...g++..and many others...take a look at ubuntuforums..or debian :)
[03:09] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: or wait sec
[03:09] <TueM> thanks
[03:09] <meisam> _jason dear is this command right..its not responding...cd /home/g++ workspace
[03:09] <Ramunas> my hardware isnt ment to run eyecandy
[03:09] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz (use zless or lynx), or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[03:09] <_jason> meisam: what are you trying to do?
[03:09] <app> I booted Ubuntu live, now how do I list the disk configuration that this machine has?
[03:10] <nm> app: fdisk -l
[03:10] <meisam> _jason im trying to just get into a directory
[03:10] <theD3viL> nm: -p ?
[03:10] <meisam> to execute my cc files
[03:10] <nm> -l
[03:10] <_jason> meisam: it's usually /home/username
[03:10] <Aragorn_Guardian> theD3viL:  ok
[03:10] <theD3viL> nm: last time when i use fdisk it was p :)
[03:10] <meisam> _jason what do u mean?
[03:11] <app> Thx, nm
[03:11] <nm> thed3vil: no, listing the disk configuration uses -l
[03:11] <meisam> _jason u mean i need to store my cc files in such dir like that?
[03:11] <theD3viL> nm: oh, configuration...sry .. i mean partitions
[03:11] <nm> theD3viL, you're thinking of the fdisk interface itself, when you are using the program, the 'p' command will print the current partition table of the disk you're manipulating
[03:11] <_jason> meisam: your $HOME directory is /home/username.  So store them somewhere in there
[03:11] <theD3viL> nm: yep.sry
[03:12] <rad4Christ-werk>  UHey guys
[03:12] <TueM> how to use p2p in linux?
[03:12] <TueM> thanks
[03:12] <theD3viL> TueM: apt-get install apollon, amule, ..
[03:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell TueM about p2p
[03:12] <TueM> apollon
[03:12] <rad4Christ-werk> Totally new to Linux, but is it hard to use as a fileserver?
[03:12] <rad4Christ-werk> For Windows PCs?
[03:12] <TueM> there is a valid version of bear share thanks
[03:13] <SR_Bronze> rad4Christ-werk: Not hard at all
[03:14] <babo> hi guys, I have a sed script here      sed 's/.*name="__VIEWSTATE".*value=\"\([^"] *\)".*/\1/'            that parses out the value of viewstate. Unfortunately though it just removes the VIEWSTATE name and value and then empties the value string back into the file. So I end up with my VIEWSTATE value dumped in with the html page. I want the sed script to output only the matching pattern. Can anyone help ?
[03:14] <theD3viL> which version of kde is in ubuntu ?
[03:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> i like this way of compile the kernell.. 8)
[03:14] <theD3viL> Aragorn_Guardian: :)
[03:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> i compli, create a image, and after install by dpkg...very good...
[03:15] <theD3viL> nice
[03:15] <theD3viL> :P
[03:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> no make bzlilo...hehehehe
[03:15] <chromebuntu> Seveas: nope, thats not going to work,  libxft1 conflicts with xlibs so even when I make a fake package to satisfy the dependency, i cant install it. I think I need to roll back to breezy
[03:15] <theD3viL> bzImage btw :P
[03:15] <rad4Christ-werk> SR_Bronze, OK. Well, I'm copying the data off my target drive now, so I can format it, but is there a way for Ubuntu to read/write on NTFS?
[03:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[03:15] <theD3viL> rad4Christ-werk: nope, writing not...reading yes.
[03:15] <_jason> babo: -n suppresses the output and use the p command at the end of that thing (I think)
[03:16] <LinuxJones> rad4Christ-werk: you should look at the samba howto for sharing files with windows or mac. It's on the wiki page >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[03:16] <rad4Christ-werk> SO, I should go with ext3, and use the Windows driver to read/write est3 in WinXP?
[03:16] <_jason> babo: sed -n 's/foo/bar/p'file, is what I mean
[03:16] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: you don't want to start messing with ntfs. just make a fat32 partition, and use it as a 'shared'
[03:16] <babo> excellent - thanks
[03:16] <Seveas> chromebuntu, or fix up the cedega package to not require xlibs 
[03:16] <rad4Christ-werk> IT's a 250GB HD, and I don't beleive FAT32 supports that large of a partition.
[03:16] <SR_Bronze> rad4Christ-werk: speech recognition on: the last time I tried to use NTFS support under Linux was over two years ago.  It was not stable then.  I don't have any more recent experience
[03:17] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: so make one small enough for fat32 to use ;)
[03:17] <rad4Christ-werk> ohgood, The data we have on it would make multiple partitions annoying and inhibitive to the structure desired.
[03:18] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: ok, got moof it with ntfs hacks then. good luck.
[03:18] <chromebuntu> Seveas: any way to do that?
[03:18] <rad4Christ-werk> But there's a ext3 filesystem driver for WindowsXP. I'll test it. If it works, I'll go that route.
[03:18] <saik0> rad4Christ-werk, you can make a 250GB fat32 filesystem
[03:18] <chromebuntu> Seveas: can one 'edit' a .deb like that?
[03:18] <SR_Bronze> rad4Christ-werk: I recommend you use SAMBA.  Run your Windows machine and your Linux machines separately and use samba to serve files to and from your Linux machine to the Windows machine
[03:19] <LinuxJones> rad4Christ-werk: if the files are on the Linux box it doesn't matter what filesystem the files are on if you use Samba.
[03:19] <jetscreamer> no it doesn't
[03:19] <jetscreamer> 32g
[03:19] <rad4Christ-werk> SR_Bronze, is SAMBA a part of the Initial UBUNTU Distro, or downloadable?
[03:19] <_jason> jetscreamer: that's only a silly windows limit
[03:19] <Seveas> chromebuntu, mkdir tempdir; dpkg-deb -X bla.deb tempdir; vim tempdir/DEBIAN/control/; dpkg-deb --build bla.deb tempdir (check the manpage for dpkg-deb to check the last command, not sure about the syntax)
[03:19] <rad4Christ-werk> Well, here's the reason I am concerned....
[03:19] <SR_Bronze> rad4Christ-werk: actually I'm not sure.  If it is not included, it is definitely downloadable because I know I have used it on ubuntu.
[03:20] <rad4Christ-werk> If the server (our only Linux box) dies, I need a way to quickly connect to a WinXP box and share the needed files.
[03:20] <app> How do I receive local mail from programs in Breezy Live cd? There is no "mail" command, and when I install mailx it install postfix and postdrop complains about a lock file.... no local mial works
[03:20] <chromebuntu> Seveas: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[03:20] <jetscreamer> well there's a way lately in newer kernels to write to ntfs, but it's some (write in already existing files) thing...
[03:20] <SR_Bronze> and adding more packages to ubuntu is very easy
[03:20] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: make backups ?
[03:20] <rad4Christ-werk> I back up to a removable hard drive each night, and I want to be able to connect that HD to another machine and be up and running if needed.
[03:20] <jetscreamer> best to have a fat32/vfat dmz
[03:21] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: i really don't see the issue. if you have an extra box to rsync to nightly, and you backup everything from your smart shared fat32 partition(s)
[03:21] <rad4Christ-werk> WinXP can read the VFAT partition?
[03:21] <jetscreamer> of course
[03:21] <rad4Christ-werk> I'll go with FAT32
[03:21] <rad4Christ-werk> THanks.
[03:21] <ohgood> finally
[03:21] <LinuxJones> rad4Christ-werk: well you can use a vfat filesystem (fat32) in that case it might be a better solution if you only have a single Linux machine.
[03:21] <rad4Christ-werk> Now, be expecting more nub questions from me later on! :P
[03:22] <rad4Christ-werk> And thanks alot for the help so far.
[03:22] <jetscreamer> w/fat32/vfat you have a file size limit btw
[03:22] <jetscreamer> 2gigs
[03:22] <jetscreamer> windows can get around it
[03:22] <ohgood> jetscreamer: split and cat can solve that
[03:22] <LinuxJones> rad4Christ-werk: here's a howto for you to browse >>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[03:22] <jetscreamer> yeah and rar
[03:22] <rad4Christ-werk> jetscreamer, that's not a problem, the bulk of our storage are scanned documents.
[03:22] <mark_> you touch my tralalala
[03:23] <mark_> ding ding
[03:23] <pingy> !bin
[03:23] <ubotu> pingy: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:24] <Ainvar> ok, here is something for you that is baffling me. The volume knob in gnome that is in dapper (latest updates) shows an x by the speaker no matter if it is muted or not muted.
[03:25] <renlore> how come when i point my browser to the cgi script, it shows the source code instead of running it? :(
[03:25] <Ainvar> if I right click on the speaker and tell it to mute then do thew same steps again to unmute it, it put the volume maxed at 100%
[03:25] <pinga> !deb
[03:25] <ubotu> somebody said deb was FUUUUUUUUUCK YOU!
[03:25] <Seveas> ok
[03:25] <chromebuntu> Seveas: ah, not sure yeah, um: dpkg-deb: failed to open package info file `/home/chrome/Desktop/cedega_5.1_i386.deb/DEBIAN/control' for reading: Not a directory
[03:25] <Mordof> How do i catch flags in shell scripts?
[03:25] <chromebuntu> gah, so lost with dpkg
[03:25] <Macbeth> Anyone know how to get a program to start on a different screen?
[03:25] <chromebuntu> I can build RPMs till the cows come home.
[03:25] <Seveas> !no deb is <reply> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:25] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[03:26] <ohgood> Macbeth: xinit -- :1         then start your program there
[03:26] <sven_> ctrl+alt+fn problem solved: apt-get install xkeyboard-config
[03:26] <turtlesoup> anyone here have experience with  Installation/WindowsServerNetboot method?
[03:26] <turtlesoup> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[03:27] <TueM> anyone here can tell me how I can install apollon?
[03:27] <app> So no one knows why mailx installation on live cd (to have local mail) fails? Or postfix that it installs complains about missing "public/pickup"?
[03:28] <ohgood> turtlesoup: looks like a pretty thorough document. whats up ?
[03:28] <Mordof> can anyone point me at a tutorial or something for shell scripting?
[03:28] <arrinmurr> TueM: sudo apt-get install apollon ?
[03:28] <Seveas> Mordof, search tldp.org for the advanced bash scripting guide
[03:28] <turtlesoup> ohgood: i get the darn thing to start, it can see my windows desktop, then it just stops. i think the pxelinux.cfg is screwed somehow
[03:28] <lusepuster> by the way - is it my fault or the default dapper behaviour that there's no pre-installed desklets with gdesklets
[03:28] <Mordof> Seveas: thanks
[03:29] <TueM> what mean sudo apt-get ?
[03:29] <Macbeth> that didn't work, it just killed both my screens, you know where theres some docs on it?
[03:29] <TueM> thanks
[03:29] <lusepuster> ah, my bad. didn't insta the data... oops
[03:29] <chromebuntu> oh, idiot.
[03:30] <chromebuntu> me.
[03:30] <Seveas> chromebuntu, 
[03:30] <ideafix> any one using ubuntix ?
[03:30] <turtlesoup> ohgood: can you look at that wiki page again, i have a question
[03:31] <TueM> what is sudo ?
[03:31] <turtlesoup> ohgood: number 7
[03:32] <ideafix> its a sudoku clone
[03:32] <chromebuntu> Seveas: hmm, i seem to be missing one control file :/
[03:32] <turtlesoup> ohgood: my router address is 192.168.1.254,  i add one to the address like it says. could that be the problem, setting it to 192.168.1.255?
[03:33] <LinuxJones> turtlesoup: the .255 is not usable as an address
[03:33] <turtlesoup> LinuxJones: OK thanks!
[03:33] <rad4Christ-werk> K guys, I'm back. Sorry.
[03:34] <rad4Christ-werk> When setting up a share, is there an easy way to restrict the folders by username?
[03:34] <chromebuntu> Seveas: needs -e :)
[03:34] <dm> hey guys how do i CHROOT to my root partition form a LIVE CD
[03:34] <ideafix> dm man chroot
[03:35] <dm> ideafix i do chroot /dev/sda2 but says it isnt a dir :P
[03:35] <turtlesoup> ohgood: if i get my router setup with a different address ,192.168.1.1, and set tftp to use IP pool starting address 192.168.1.2   , will it work then?
[03:35] <ohgood> dm: it's not difficult, man chroot will have some nice explanations, and if not, google has tons of nice tutorials.
[03:35] <ideafix> of course it iosnt its a device
[03:35] <Yagisan> anyone have a guide to installing ubuntu on a usb stick ?
[03:36] <ideafix> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda
[03:36] <dm> ohgood man chroot doesnt tell me anything, just explains what it is
[03:36] <ideafix> cgroot /mnt/sda
[03:36] <ideafix> chroot /mnt/sda
[03:36] <ohgood> dm: ok, then the latter of my comment.
[03:36] <ideafix> something like that
[03:37] <ohgood> ideafix: that's grossly incorrect.
[03:37] <TueM> I don't understand how t install linux software like apollo firefox
[03:37] <ideafix> i think he got the point
[03:38] <ohgood> dm: if google doesn't provide enough help, or confuses you, pm me, and i'll help if i can
[03:38] <turtlesoup> be back later, thanks for the help all
[03:38] <LinuxJones> TueM: system >> administration >> synaptic package manager (enter your user password when asked), let me know when you get that done.
[03:39] <chromebuntu> Seveas: dpkg -x cedega_5.1_i386.deb tempdir ; dpkg -e edega_5.1_i386.deb tempdir/DEBIAN/ ; vi tempdir/DEBIAN/control ; rm cedega_5.1_i386.deb ; dpkg-deb --build tempdir cedega_5.1_i386.deb
[03:39] <chromebuntu> that worked for me :)
[03:39] <dm> ohgood ive already googled it , what happed is my Dapper's netorking was borked by devs, and i cant access updates to fix it, so im in liveCD right now trying to download the patches through live CD to apply to my runnning dapper install
[03:39] <TueM> done
[03:39] <LinuxJones> TueM: now click reload (this will get a file list from the servers for you)
[03:40] <dm> ohgood people tell you to do shit and no one explains it ( on forums )
[03:40] <ohgood> dm: understood, it happens sometimes.
[03:40] <rad4Christ-werk> Anyone?
[03:40] <ideafix> dm you are suposed to figure it out by your self
[03:40] <ideafix> thats the way linux works :P
[03:40] <TueM> Pardon and now?
[03:41] <LinuxJones> TueM: if that went ok click the search button and type in the name of what you want to search for.
[03:41] <dm> ideafix well usually i do but ive tried everyhing i can think of , this is the last solution
[03:41] <ohgood> dm: if you have the livecd booted, and your / mounted somewhere, i suppose you could copy the files you need over to your messed up /, and then chroot, since networking won't work right now.
[03:41] <LinuxJones> TueM: is this a fresh install ?
[03:41] <ohgood> dm: do you know what you need exactly ?
[03:41] <SR_Bronze> rad4Christ-werk: yes there is a way to do that.  It's in the SAMBA configuration files.  You will need to do some reading.
[03:41] <ideafix> dm mabey whast you are trying just wasnt meant to be :)
[03:41] <jetscreamer> rad4Christ-werk: try the samba how-to on tldp.org maybe
[03:42] <dm> ohgood is there anyway to apt-get upgrade from livecd to your install ?
[03:42] <TueM> I want to upgragrde firefox and to install apollo for p2p
[03:42] <rad4Christ-werk> SR_Bronze, I've found it I think.
[03:42] <rad4Christ-werk> It's all command line,correct?
[03:42] <ohgood> dm: good question. i'd likely copy the needed networking information (if its config files) over to the moofed installation, then just do it from the chroot
[03:43] <ideafix> any one usaing expresso ?=
[03:43] <Yagisan> No one has installed ubuntu on a usb stick ?
[03:43] <dm> ohgood like i said they borked networking and the supposid fix is under apt-get upgrade..
[03:43] <LinuxJones> TueM: well that might be a bit difficult from the default repos
[03:43] <ohgood> dm: let's try a chroot, and see what's moofed  then
[03:43] <dm> ohgood this is the worst break ever lol
[03:43] <LinuxJones> ideafix: I tried it yesterday, and it's like not nearly ready.
[03:44] <SR_Bronze> rad4Christ-werk: no, there is a configuration file that allows you to set up rights and permissions for users on specific directories.
[03:44] <ideafix> what about a ubuntu light version for use with usb keys ?
[03:44] <Nogimics> hmmm is ubuntu a decent O/S to use for an IRC server?
[03:44] <dm> ohgood one sec might be going
[03:44] <TueM> what is the default repos
[03:44] <ohgood> ok
[03:44] <dm> ohgood i was using sudo under root.. lol
[03:44] <dm> ohgood im such a dumbass
[03:44] <LinuxJones> TueM: your running breezy ?
[03:45] <ideafix> how do you do that ?
[03:45] <puppet2501> hi
[03:45] <ideafix> can one sudo knosole ?
[03:45] <Shadowpillar> will gnome 2.14 make it into dapper?
[03:45] <dm> sudo -i is a better use
[03:45] <puppet2501> I want to found the depot to had to source.list to have mbrola
[03:46] <ideafix> can i sudo konsole ?
[03:46] <dm> ideafix sudo -i will make it root
[03:46] <ideafix> whats the difrence ?
[03:46] <LinuxJones> Shadowpillar: they are usually released within a day or so of Gnome's release
[03:46] <dm> if you crash it it wont fuck your system up
[03:46] <TueM> no
[03:46] <ideafix> whont sudo konsole do the same ?
[03:47] <dm> ohgood i hope this fixes it , i want my linux back, wanna try to get WoW to work in it
[03:47] <Yagisan> ideafix: well, I have a 1GB stick, I imagine it could hold a fair sized install
[03:47] <gaoshai> ls
[03:47] <ideafix> i have a 125 megas one
[03:48] <ConfidentiaL> Hi, I have a problem getting the laptop's screen to work...:S Only the external screen shows a picture. The laptop screen turns itself up after boot...
[03:48] <ideafix> can i install ubuntu to an ipod ?
[03:48] <chromebuntu> dm: I just got WoW working in dapper :)
[03:49] <chromebuntu> dm: dont use the latest kernel, you need to use 2.6.15-14
[03:49] <Yagisan> ideafix: I had a customer stiff me on a hardware order, so I got an exchange on the parts from my dealer for something useful
[03:50] <ConfidentiaL> Any1 know what I need to do?
[03:50] <Yagisan> ideafix: I suppose you could install on an ipod, but no idea if it would run. I'm not familiar with ipods
[03:50] <dm> Are update servers down ???
[03:50] <turtlesoup> ARRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
[03:50] <chromebuntu> dm: for WoW?
[03:51] <thegladiator> friends
[03:51] <dm> chromebuntu well that too ,, but no ubuntu servers
[03:51] <dm> chromebuntu when do the WoW servers come back up ?
[03:51] <turtlesoup> please someone look at this and tell me WTF i am doing wrong      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28installation%29
[03:51] <chromebuntu> dm: i just installed some packages just now, so unless they went down the last 5 minutes
[03:51] <chromebuntu> dm: dunno
[03:51] <Nogimics> How do you cancel a wget when its downloading? or move on to another command in PuTTy and let it continue please?
[03:51] <ideafix> are wowe servers down ?
[03:52] <tonio> hi
[03:52] <ohgood> Nogimics: checkout 'screen'... it's wonderfull
[03:52] <Rubin> Nogimics: ctrl-c will cancel just about anything
[03:52] <SR_Bronze> Nogimics: control C is how I stop a wget
[03:52] <dentist> ok not my day, installed it.. everything was work fine.. rebooted, now it hags on "starting hotplug subsystem"
[03:52] <Nogimics> thanks guys
[03:52] <dm> chromebuntu im kinda new to WoW how long do these patches usually take?
[03:52] <tonio> i'm seeking a livecd for powerpc, featuring kernel 2.4 and strace
[03:52] <chromebuntu> dm: usually 4-6 hours
[03:52] <thegladiator> my friend has a 64 bit amd processir
[03:53] <ConfidentiaL> dentist: try disabling ur onboard sound if u got 1...
[03:53] <dm> chromebuntu how long has it been ?
[03:53] <LinuxJones> tonio: why would you want a 2.4 kernel ?
[03:53] <thegladiator> "is there Pinnacle PCTV Pro drivers for Ubuntu"
[03:53] <chromebuntu> dm: couple of hours now I guess
[03:53] <thegladiator> this is what he is askin
[03:53] <tonio> LinuxJones: because i need to strace a process under linux ppc, without ntpl
[03:53] <dm> ohgood oh great now wireless on livecd stopped working
[03:54] <dentist> ok it seems pressing ctrl-c a whole bunch of times before it loads hotplug works
[03:54] <chromebuntu> dm: haha man its not your day now eh
[03:54] <rad4Christ-werk> SR_Bronze, Thanks for the help so far. I'm following a Wiki right now, and it is helping tremendously.
[03:54] <turtlesoup> i am getting error:   PXE-E32: TFTP OPEN TIMEOUT
[03:54] <ConfidentiaL> My laptorp screen isnt working on linux! Only the external one!
[03:54] <thegladiator> "is there Pinnacle PCTV Pro drivers for Ubuntu" someone know the answer for this ?
[03:54] <rad4Christ-werk> One other Question, is there a quick backup utility you recommend to sync data with an external hard drive?
[03:54] <dm> chromebuntu aye its not, called off from work cause i have the stomach flu to boot
[03:54] <jimcooncat> are there keyboard shortcuts in xfce that change the screen resolution?
[03:54] <TueM> LinuxJones : thank u very much
[03:54] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: rsync
[03:55] <chromebuntu> dm: oh dude, thats not good - you should rest up
[03:55] <dm> chromebuntu i never sleep when im sick, just cant fall asleep
[03:55] <LinuxJones> TueM: have fun :)
[03:55] <thegladiator> _jason, Seveas are u here ?
[03:55] <rad4Christ-werk> ohgood, is that a command line, or GUI app?
[03:56] <tonio> LinuxJones: i only found an old knoppix live cd with 2.4, but it lacks strace
[03:56] <thegladiator> "is there Pinnacle PCTV Pro drivers for Ubuntu" - for 64 bit computer specifically
[03:56] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: cli
[03:56] <rad4Christ-werk> ?
[03:56] <turtlesoup> can someone help me with this:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28installation%29
[03:56] <SR_Bronze> cli equals command line option
[03:56] <TueM> good work
[03:56] <SR_Bronze> loops excuse me, command line interface
[03:56] <Yagisan> thegladiator: try the bt878 driver
[03:56] <rad4Christ-werk> OK, in that case I need to find a way to write a batch file for it then.
[03:57] <Yagisan> thegladiator: works for my pinacle pctv card
[03:57] <ubuntu_> and networking is back up yay
[03:57] <phor2zero> I'm looking for a good linux dist to install on a 566Mhz celeron...  the ubuntu live-cd is TOO-SLOW.  Will it work if I install it?
[03:57] <thegladiator> Yagisan, 64 bit ?
[03:57] <ideafix> any one wanna join #psytrance ops to the 1st 5 joins :)
[03:57] <Yagisan> thegladiator: yep :)
[03:57] <LinuxJones> tonio: I wonder if you can install strace in ram while in that live environment ?
[03:57] <rad4Christ-werk> As I'm not always the one to do the backup, and the others are completely illiterate (instead of just Linux illiterate like me :P)
[03:57] <ohgood> phor2zero: livecd's are inherently slow. installed is always faster
[03:57] <dentist> mm anyone know how to deny/enable a user to login to X?
[03:57] <SR_Bronze> rad4Christ-werk: you mean a script.  :-) we don't have batch files on UNIX.  It's a vocabulary difference.
[03:57] <thegladiator> wow , thanks I shall tell him
[03:57] <ConfidentiaL> Any1?? My laptop screen is totally black after linux have booted up, I can only use linux if I have an external screen connected. Any1 know what's wrong?
[03:57] <Yagisan> thegladiator: sudo modprobe bt878 should load it
[03:57] <rad4Christ-werk> :P Then point me to how to write a script.
[03:57] <oneseventeen> Is there a way to make it so when I maximize windows in gnome, they leave a 20 pixel gap at the bottom of the screen?
[03:58] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: what kind of laptop is it ?
[03:58] <rad4Christ-werk> I see all the options for rsync, I just need an icon on the desktop to run said script.
[03:58] <dm> Laptop LCD is dead?
[03:58] <thegladiator> yep i am telling him straightwaya atm..
[03:58] <ConfidentiaL> Asus A6Va
[03:58] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: you could setup a cron job to backup nightly, with rsync
[03:58] <ConfidentiaL> Yeh, totally dead after the boot...
[03:58] <phor2zero> ohgood:  would you expect ubuntu to run okay on an old 566Celeron w/178MB Ram?.. or is there another dist that would work better?
[03:59] <ompaul> phor2zero, there is a thing called xubuntu
[03:59] <ubuntu__> confidential i would boot up livecd or another OS to see if it still works.
[03:59] <ohgood> phor2zero: it would be fine. i would likely use fluxbox for a windowmanager though
[03:59] <rad4Christ-werk> ohgood, no good. I need to lock the External in a fire safe daily.
[03:59] <Yagisan> thegladiator: on my system it shows up as "0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)" when you run lspci, so if his looks similar it should work fine
[03:59] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: what does that have to do with backing up ?
[03:59] <ideafix> ohgood if you stup a cron job the invoked command/program will run has root ?
[03:59] <rad4Christ-werk> I'll have a backup utility run nightly based from an XP machine.
[03:59] <ompaul> phor2zero, built with the slower older machine in mind
[04:00] <thegladiator> Yagisan, ah yep
[04:00] <ohgood> ideafix: it runs as whoever it's supposed to run ... this is setup befor hand
[04:00] <ideafix> ohgood if you setup a cron job the invoked command/program will run has root ?
[04:00] <rad4Christ-werk> I back up to an external HD, then disconnect the drive and store it in a safe.
[04:00] <phor2zero> ompaul: thanx,  i'll look it up.
[04:00] <ideafix> how iove never did any cron jobs
[04:00] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: so, just do it yourself. rsync will be fine for that
[04:00] <ConfidentiaL> ubuntu_ : Windows XP is running fine with the screen...
[04:00] <ideafix> is there any gui to use cron ?
[04:00] <rad4Christ-werk> Yeah, but I need it in a script, should I not be here, and someone else has to run it.
[04:00] <ohgood> ideafix: man cron, or take a look at the files in /etc/       it's nice
[04:01] <Kyral> ideafix: Gnome-Schedule is decent
[04:01] <rad4Christ-werk> NM, I'll look into it when I get there, I'm sure it's possible.
[04:01] <Nogimics> Does anyone know where I can get the openssl binary and openssl development libraries pls?
[04:01] <ubuntu_> confidential hmm you have DPMS set in your xorg.conf? and are you running dapper?
[04:01] <ohgood> rad4Christ-werk: at least read teh manpage. sheesh.
[04:01] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: that machine has an ati graphics card ?
[04:01] <miketech> Hi
[04:01] <Kyral> but I just usually make a script and put it in cron.d/cron.daily/cron.weekly/cron.hourly/cron.monthly
[04:01] <gambler> can ubuntu use login/password as default login/password to window shares?
[04:01] <ideafix> can i run linux with out GNU ?
[04:01] <ohgood> lol
[04:01] <miketech> I wanna install dapper drake for testing parallel to a windows/Mandriva system. Is dapper working good enough at the moment to install it on this machine?
[04:02] <TueM> what is gedit
[04:02] <turtlesoup> screw it. linux gets placed in the circular file for now.
[04:02] <miketech> Or is the installation process buggy at the moment?
[04:02] <ConfidentiaL> LinuxJones: yes
[04:02] <ohgood> ideafix: you're the same person that gets kicked from #suse everytime you join, right ?
[04:02] <dreamil|lab> hi all
[04:02] <ideafix> no its my dumb brother
[04:02] <ohgood> surrrrre
[04:02] <gambler> ohgood: no provocation plesea
[04:02] <LinuxJones> miketech: I am running dapper and it seems fine for me.
[04:02] <ConfidentiaL> Mobility RAdeon x700
[04:02] <dm> miketech try next week
[04:02] <dentist> mmm anyone know how to enable xfce4 to login as root?
[04:02] <miketech> dm, what is next week?
[04:02] <dm> confidential are you running dapper?
[04:02] <ohgood> gambler: that was a question. there is a difference.
[04:02] <miketech> a new flight?
[04:02] <ConfidentiaL> dm : dapper???
[04:02] <robotgeek> dentist: hmm, please don't do that
[04:02] <dm> miketech they broke alot of shit yesterday
[04:03] <miketech> oh ok
[04:03] <dentist> yes i know
[04:03] <gambler> reboot press esc choose recovery console and you are root
[04:03] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: you might want to install the binary drivers for your ati card.
[04:03] <dentist> its taboo
[04:03] <miketech> and the flight isn't working too?
[04:03] <dentist> but i'd like to do it anyhow
[04:03] <gambler> it sounded provocative yto me
[04:03] <ideafix> fglight has been opstponed
[04:03] <bur[n] er> what broke in dapper?
[04:03] <ConfidentiaL> LinuxJones : Im a bit noob, so, how do I do that?
[04:04] <dreamil|lab> i have installed 5.10 ubuntu installed on my amd64bit machine
[04:04] <bur[n] er> !ati
[04:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:04] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: does your screen work if the second monitor is not plugged in ?
[04:04] <dreamil|lab> first thing is mozilla firefox is not starting
[04:04] <ConfidentiaL> LinuxJones : nope
[04:04] <dm> dreamil|lab reboot computer to get FF working
[04:04] <dreamil|lab> rebooted 4 times
[04:04] <ompaul> bur[n] er,  it (dapper) is in a state of flux until the 20th of april
[04:05] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: are you on the linux machine right now, or another one ?
[04:05] <dreamil|lab> now when i try to install firefox from sources,
[04:05] <bur[n] er> ompaul: it's actually working pretty well here
[04:05] <dreamil|lab> make fails with this error
[04:05] <ConfidentiaL> On it now...
[04:05] <bur[n] er> except for the clock applet
[04:05] <Kyral> dreamil|lab: no paste here
[04:05] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: you only have 1 machine right ?
[04:05] <dm> how do i start the netstatus applet?
[04:05] <Kyral> dreamil|lab: put it in the pastebin
[04:05] <bur[n] er> dapper development == more stable than breezy development
[04:05] <dentist> so anyone, xfce4? i can see how to do it with gnome and kde, just not fxce4
[04:05] <ompaul> bur[n] er, well report that which does not work as it will never be changed after the release
[04:06] <MarcN> bur[n] er: I'm running dapper and it has been pretty stable for me, especially lately.  excepting mono stuff.
[04:06] <ConfidentiaL> LinuxJones : I have a server machine with windows XP also...
[04:06] <bur[n] er> dentist: do what?
[04:06] <bur[n] er> ompaul: i know :)
[04:06] <dentist> login as root on xfce4
[04:06] <bur[n] er> dentist: how is it different than kde/gnome?
[04:06] <dreamil|lab> http://rafb.net/paste/results/A9mrdO58.html
[04:06] <MarcN> bur[n] er: what do you see breaking?
[04:06] <dreamil|lab> Kyral, i know :)
[04:07] <Kyral> okay
[04:07] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: ok well can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin.ca ?
[04:07] <dentist> well kde has its own config file
[04:07] <bur[n] er> MarcN: so far, only the clock applet crashes... and xgl isn't very stable, but that's expected
[04:07] <dentist> kdmrc
[04:07] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: I am off for a quick cig brb
[04:07] <bur[n] er> dentist: kdmrc is just for teh kdm login thing
[04:08] <bur[n] er> dentist: not really relevant to logging in as root for xfce
[04:08] <dentist> i want to login using root to xfce
[04:08] <dentist> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:08] <bur[n] er> dentist: so just do it... from gdm or kdm, pick teh Xfce Session
[04:08] <bur[n] er> dentist: or open a term and use sudo
[04:09] <ljl> dentist: it will depend on whether you use gdm, kdm, xdm or something else. you must enable root login from the config file
[04:09] <dentist> thats not really an answer to my question.. i'm asking how to enable the root login, wheres the config
[04:09] <ompaul> bur[n] er, sorry, the only reason that I make those noises is to keep those who should not run it not running it, this is as we both know a case of the latest and greatest being stable we wait for 20th April for that :)
[04:09] <bur[n] er> dentist: depends if you use gdm or kdm or xdm
[04:09] <bur[n] er> ompaul: very true :)
[04:09] <dentist> im using gdm
[04:09] <bur[n] er> dentist: when logged in as a user... run "sudo gdmsetup"
[04:09] <phor2zero> Does xubuntu include java?  spouse needs pogo.com games, lol ;)
[04:09] <ohgood> ompaul: what happens on the 20th ?
[04:10] <bur[n] er> phor2zero: it doesn't, but easily installed
[04:10] <Yagisan> dentist: you do know it is a bad idea to log in as root, esp to a X session ?
[04:10] <ompaul> !dapper
[04:10] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[04:10] <dm> ohgood nope its perminently borked and the yhavnet fixed it yet lol , i have to use windows now :( MF !!
[04:10] <dentist> yes i know its a very bad idea.. its taboo etc etc etc
[04:11] <ohgood> dm: what exactly did you install to accomplish the moofing ?
[04:11] <LjL> dentist: judging from google, it seems there might be an "allowrootlogin" or something option in /etc/gdm/somewhere
[04:11] <ompaul> bur[n] er, 6.04 is the final name 2006 and month 4
[04:11] <LjL> dentist: i would just grep for "allow" (use the "-i" option, since it's probably "Allow") into /etc/gdm/*
[04:11] <dm> ohgood sudo apt.get dist-upgrade .. thats what killed all networking known to man in dapper
[04:11] <kestas> is there any software for managing your time?
[04:11] <LjL> dentist: i don't have gdm myself
[04:11] <dentist> yah i've found the gdm setup
[04:11] <kestas> so you can allocate a certain amount of time to a certain project and it'll let you know which projects you need to spend more time on?
[04:11] <dreamil|lab> well, any comments on http://rafb.net/paste/results/A9mrdO58.html
[04:12] <ohgood> ompaul: is there a xgl release planned on the 20th or something ?
[04:12] <LjL> kestas: there's plenty, though i couldn't name one right now... but i think that feature is there by default in kubuntu. i suppose there might be a program for that in ubuntu by default as well
[04:12] <cradek> does anyone know whether the kernel version for dapper is decided and fixed yet?
[04:12] <Nogimics> Has anyone installed unrealircd on ubuntu here?
[04:12] <hatake_kakashi> http://kidsquid.com/programs/ubuntu/firefox-1.5.0-0nonfree1_i386.tar.gz <--- site no longer host such a file from that ubuntuwiki for firefox1.5
[04:12] <LjL> kestas: perhaps "gtodo"?
[04:13] <ompaul> dentist, you can use sudo update-alternatives --all  and that will allow you change some basic configs
[04:13] <dm> cradek its not
[04:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can anyone tell me of a good app that can keep track of inventory?
[04:13] <cradek> dm: thanks
[04:13] <ompaul> ohgood, the 20th of April is the day that Ubuntus next release comes out
[04:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for ubuntu?
[04:14] <bur[n] er> ompaul: 4/20 :)
[04:14] <Nogimics> Has anyone installed unrealircd on ubuntu here?
[04:14] <HwyXingFrog> hello, any good basic image editors (like Paint for windows)?
[04:14] <thegladiator> folkz i am doomed it seems , it all started when I installed theme for Firefox 1.5 , i cant start FF now , it opens that "talkback" thingy ...what can I do now ?
[04:14] <bur[n] er> HwyXingFrog: tuxpaint ?
[04:14] <ompaul>  burner where I live we do 20-04-06
[04:14] <phor2zero> 4:20 :)
[04:14] <ohgood> ompaul: ohhh, i see. i'll assume there will be a still developmental xgl then, or is the crystal ball still hazy on xgl developemnts ?
[04:14] <HwyXingFrog> thanks burner
[04:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the gimp is quite nice for pics
[04:14] <LjL> HwyXingFrog: gpaint?
[04:14] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: like a cd collection ?
[04:14] <kestas> LjL, hmm kind of, but I was thinking something for ongoing projects rather than specific tasks
[04:14] <HwyXingFrog> i will try gpaint too
[04:14] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: or like inventory for a business ?
[04:15] <bur[n] er> HwyXingFrog: gimp is great, but a little more like photoshop
[04:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no like how many of part # 177-85-095 i have
[04:15] <ompaul> ohgood, I don't know that, if it is not hard to implement, I don't know if it will be part of the base
[04:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and what the part is even
[04:15] <LjL> kestas: then you need "apt-cache search project manage gnome", a few things show up
[04:15] <ompaul> ohgood, forget the if
[04:15] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: so it would be lots and lots of inventory ?
[04:15] <ohgood> ompaul: done :)
[04:15] <LjL> kestas: well, actually, i think you should just try "planner"
[04:15] <bur[n] er> ompaul: i like our date format better :)   legalize it ;)
[04:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no i am just a clock shop
[04:15] <HwyXingFrog> i tried gimp, but i want something more basidc
[04:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't have that much in stock maybe a 100 or so items at a time
[04:16] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: oh you can use openoffice base for something like that
[04:16] <LjL> HwyXingFrog: there was a very simple paining program for KDE as well, either kpaint or kolourpaint i think
[04:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[04:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't want to i want to have a program that does that
[04:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> not open office lol
[04:16] <LjL> bur[n] er: that's egroupware i guess ;)
[04:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LinuxJones,  so do you know of a program that can do that?
[04:17] <HwyXingFrog> i was looking for kpaint, i guess it is called kolourpaint
[04:17] <HwyXingFrog> .....downloading now
[04:17] <HwyXingFrog> thanks
[04:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just keep track of inventory and what i have for stock?
[04:17] <bur[n] er> ChurcH_of_FoamY: why not OO.o base?
[04:17] <bur[n] er> ChurcH_of_FoamY: or even a simple OO.o calc spreadsheet
[04:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> because i don't feel like learning a whole bunch of new things just to do something small
[04:18] <bur[n] er> spreadsheets are simple :)
[04:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want a program that i can say ok i have x amount of item number
[04:18] <TueM> how can use to see divx
[04:18] <TueM> thanks
[04:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't want to bother with spreadsheets
[04:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[04:19] <pdc303> Anyone else having problems running gksu gdmsetup?  It dies on me instantly
[04:19] <TueM> totem
[04:19] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes open office has a database program called Base for small scale inventory stuff but you will have to enter all of the info by hand. It can be tied into other databases if you have the info already in a datatabase, providing Openoffice can open the database type.
[04:19] <fakeollie> hey, have any of you guys ever seen a launcher behaving differently when it's on desktop than when it's on a panel?
[04:19] <robotgeek> pdc303: you need gksudo gdmsetup
[04:19] <trappist> ChurcH_of_FoamY: dude, write a ruby-on-rails app with a postgresql backend
[04:19] <TueM> I have problem with totem to see divx files
[04:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o say wha?
[04:19] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i really can't think of anything simpler than a spreadsheet for something like that... even if you found a specialized program (but i can only find egroupware, which is quite complex), it'd probably have more features -- and a harder learning curve -- than a plain spreadsheet
[04:19] <pdc303> robotgeek: The system menu uses gksu gdmsetup
[04:19] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it's not a spreadsheet it's like dbase or whatever like foxpro.
[04:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i will check it out O_o
[04:20] <TueM> somebody help me
[04:20] <TueM> please
[04:20] <robotgeek> pdc303: hm, okay. i did not know that
[04:20] <LjL> !tell tuem about divx
[04:21] <pdc303> robotgeek:  I see glibc errors in the terminal :\
[04:21] <IdleOne> !somebody
[04:21] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:21] <TueM> totem don't read my divx
[04:21] <bur[n] er> !tell TueM about w32codecs
[04:21] <bur[n] er> TueM: check yer msgs
[04:21] <LjL> TueM: have you actually tried following ubotu's instructions?
[04:21] <TueM> what
[04:21] <bur[n] er> TueM: ubotu msged you with instructions
[04:21] <TueM> just a minute please
[04:21] <IdleOne> !w32codecs
[04:21] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:21] <LjL> TueM: you have another window open, where Ubotu (the channel's bot) has told you about a good link with instructions for installing video codecs
[04:22] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you have flash installed here are some flash demos of base (the ones at the botton) >> http://k12edcom.org/?q=node/11
[04:22] <TueM> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[04:22] <TueM> this is the message
[04:22] <LjL> TueM: yes. have you tried following the instructions?
[04:22] <munzir> hi, I did install ubuntu 6.04 beta and mysql -u root don't work whereas sudo mysql -u root works, Is this a bug or is all ubuntu have this problem?
[04:23] <app> I am trying to run Ettercap on Breezy live cd. My "victim" host clearly is spoofed, but Ettercap reports no traffic in GUI mode. Any ideas?
[04:23] <TueM> In synaptic I have installed all about TOTEM
[04:23] <TueM> but is the same thing
[04:24] <LjL> TueM: looking at the instructions, it doesn't seem to me that installing "all about totem" is quite enough. again, care to try the instructions first?
[04:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LinuxJones,  hey i can't get oo.o2 to work right keeps hanging on me for some reason any other ideas?
[04:25] <fevel> im having trouble making my geforces tvout to work the tutorial from the official website didnt work, can someone teach me a faster way?
[04:25] <TueM> thank u
[04:25] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what are you running breezy ?
[04:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[04:26] <b0o> I'm sure this is a repositoy thing but I seem to be missing something, I'm trying to install sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl (for XML::Parser) but i'm getting a request for the cdrom
[04:26] <renlore> what are dapper repositories?
[04:26] <munzir> hi, I did install ubuntu 6.04 beta and mysql -u root don't work whereas sudo mysql -u root works, Is this a bug or is all ubuntu have this problem?
[04:26] <LjL> b0o: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and comment out the line that mentions the cd rom (first line usually)
[04:26] <bur[n] er> b0o: change your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the cdrom line
[04:26] <_jason> b0o: comment the cd-rom repo (should be first line) in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <munzir> b0o: why don't you use your cd?
[04:27] <b0o> ha
[04:27] <b0o> bingo
[04:27] <b0o> thanks :)
[04:27] <TueM> where I can find the codec for totem ? thank u
[04:27] <b0o> I'm remote right now, can't get to the machine
[04:27] <kestas> LjL, looks like I'll be writing my own :(
[04:27] <renlore> win32 codecs are restricted due to proprietory rights right?
[04:28] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: other than that I might suggest mysql, there are probably some nice gui tools for creating and managing the inventory much like Base does.
[04:28] <LjL> TueM: look, the instructions say "If your country's laws allow you to play media using the w32codecs, use your web browser to download the file w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb from [WWW]  here to your Desktop, and, in a terminal, type:"  ---  so, have you tried that place?
[04:28] <LjL> renlore: they're restricted 'cause they're binary-only things
[04:28] <LjL> renlore: they're not free software
[04:28] <TueM> no
[04:28] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: best to look on the mysql website and see what gui interfaces they have to suite your needs.
[04:29] <LjL> TueM: then, let me repeat it once again -- what about trying the official instructions, as first thing? *then*, if they don't work for some reason, ask
[04:29] <kdean06> It's been long since I've been in here... Setting up a new server and I'm getting "eth1: Command 0x3002 did not complete! Status 0xf000" and my connection dies. ANy causes and solutions?
[04:29] <SonicYooth> Newb Question: Can anyone tell me how to get KNotes to start when ubuntu boots?
[04:29] <SonicYooth> automatically I mean?
[04:30] <LjL> TueM: really, i can't think of anything more extensive than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (the link Ubotu gave you) for installing video/audio codecs and this sort of things
[04:30] <IdleOne> LjL:  that legal notice concerning the w32codecs can be intimmidating to some ppl...but i guess it is necessary
[04:30] <LjL> SonicYooth: are you using KDE? you can tell it to save your session when you shutdown/logout
[04:30] <jocodel1> hola
[04:30] <ConfidentiaL> How can I install binary driver for my Mobility Radeon x700?
[04:30] <TueM> thank u very much
[04:31] <SonicYooth> LjL: Actually I'm using Gnome
[04:31] <LjL> IdleOne: well, unlicenced codecs can definitely be illegal for people to use, depending on the country they're in
[04:31] <LinuxJones> SonicYooth: System >> Preferences >> Sessions (click on Startup Programs Tab)
[04:31] <SonicYooth> but i think maybe theres a similar thing in gnome
[04:31] <LjL> SonicYooth: well, i suppose gnome has some similar feature
[04:31] <jocodel1> hola
[04:31] <SonicYooth> there it is - found it - thanks guys
[04:31] <jocodel1> hola
[04:31] <SonicYooth> I love ubuntu. I'm never going back. :)
[04:31] <TueM> thank u for your support
[04:31] <renlore> i love ubuntu too :)
[04:31] <LinuxJones> SonicYooth: heh
[04:32] <IdleOne> LjL: how many goverments are using unlicensed technologies as we speak and at the same time tell theyre citizens they cant :/
[04:32] <renlore> true heh
[04:32] <IdleOne> off-topic I know
[04:32] <LjL> i've fallen in complete love with (k)ubuntu just recently, with the KDE 3.5.1 packages... 'cause the X startup screen is now *black*, instead of the horrible gray pattern it used to show! this is really the best thing in linux since sliced kernels
[04:33] <kdean06> Setting up a new server and I'm getting "eth1: Command 0x3002 did not complete! Status 0xf000" and my connection dies. ANy causes and solutions? Would replacing my NIC solve this?
[04:33] <fakeollie> I made a desktop launcher for gnome-obex-send. when I drag files there, they get sent to my bluetooth phone. it works every time. now, I put the same exact launcher in a panel, it doesn't work. I drag the files, gnome-obex-send runs, but can't connect. any ideas? -- I was looking in the forums and someone else had the same problem with a media player, when run from a desktop launcher... has sound. from a panel... no sound. weird or wha
[04:33] <ideafix> IdleOne: you better watch out im licenced to hack ! :)
[04:33] <meisam> hi, guys... i need to unistall eclipse from my ubuntu
[04:33] <LjL> IdleOne: well, i don't necessarly condemn those who use a stupid codec illegally. but, it's still illegal for them to use it, and they better know
[04:33] <meisam> how can i do that?
[04:33] <IdleOne> LjL:  indeed
[04:34] <IdleOne> meisam:  sudo apt-get install sclipse
[04:34] <LinuxJones> kdean06: what kind of network card is it ?
[04:34] <IdleOne> eclipse
[04:34] <kdean06> LinuxJones, I believe it's a 10/100 3Com something or other.
[04:34] <meisam> IdleOne unistall..!!!
[04:34] <IdleOne> meisam:  sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:34] <fevel> I find eclipse from the official repositories quite buggy
[04:34] <hatake_kakashi> kdean06: lspci| grep 3Com
[04:35] <LinuxJones> kdean06: you can do lspci to see what model of hardware you have.
[04:35] <IdleOne> meisam:  I misread sorry :/
[04:35] <meisam> IdleOne never mind
[04:35] <meisam> IdleOne packagename = eclipse ?
[04:35] <IdleOne> yes
[04:35] <IdleOne> I guess it does
[04:35] <meisam> IdleOne thanks
[04:35] <IdleOne> np
[04:35] <Tomcat_> Xgl & compiz is quite awesome. :D
[04:36] <ConfidentiaL> If Im gonna install driver for my ATI card, how do I know what X-Windows Version I have?
[04:36] <yggdrasil__> ok can somone help me im trying to do something where i need gcc 3.4 and im trying to make menuconfig but i keep getting a ton of errors when i do it
[04:36] <IdleOne> yggdrasil:  eggdrop?
[04:36] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: you can just install the binary driver for ati cards for your kernel in the restricted repo.
[04:37] <kdean06> LinuxJones, Odd. I do the lspci and don't get anything for 3com. I get one ethernet controller, ALi corp, but that's the onboard one that I'm not using...
[04:37] <weareallone> any 1 have the patience for a novice?
[04:37] <yggdrasil__> idle one its vdr
[04:37] <LinuxJones> kdean06: are you dual booting with windows ?
[04:38] <ConfidentiaL> LinuxJones : Im all new to this, how do I do that?
[04:38] <thegladiator> folkz i am doomed it seems , it all started when I installed theme for Firefox 1.5 , i cant start FF now , it opens that "talkback" thingy ...what can I do now ?
[04:38] <kdean06> LinuxJones, Absolutely not. The machine I'm having issues with is a server. :-P
[04:38] <IdleOne> yggdrasil:  type sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:38] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: 1 sec will get you a link
[04:38] <yggdrasil__> idleone i dont think thats it
[04:38] <yggdrasil__> ive got gcc 3.4 in
[04:38] <weareallone> i just want to access the ntfs part of my hard drive
[04:38] <yggdrasil__> stalled
[04:38] <bur[n] er> anyone know much about getting aiglx to work?
[04:38] <JoZ> g
[04:38] <LinuxJones> kdean06: unless you can find out in computers documentation open the case and look at the card and get the model/make and write it down.
[04:39] <yggdrasil__> wearallone sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfsdrive
[04:39] <dimasta> can anyone hear me?
[04:39] <yggdrasil__> yes dimasta
[04:39] <IdleOne> we hear you
[04:39] <dimasta> okay, ;)
[04:39] <IdleOne> read you
[04:39] <yggdrasil__> whats the pastebin site
[04:39] <yggdrasil__> i hear you cluckin big chicken
[04:39] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[04:39] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:39] <munzir> WHERE should I report bugs to ubuntu 6.04? is there an irc channel for discussions?
[04:40] <thegladiator> where to get the bt878 driver for pinnacle tv on 64 bit ?
[04:40] <IdleOne> !dapper
[04:40] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[04:40] <l0> holy crap, theres more people in here than in #debian
[04:40] <IdleOne> !bugtracker
[04:40] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[04:40] <thegladiator> does anyone know abotu bt 8778 driver ?
[04:40] <IdleOne> I know there is a place just cant emember it right now munzir
[04:40] <bur[n] er> munzir: launchpad.net
[04:41] <thegladiator> like where can I install it ?
[04:41] <yggdrasil__> im trying to deal kind of with it now thegladiator i have a twinhan visionplus
[04:41] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: modprobe
[04:41] <LinuxJones> ConfidentiaL: I have to split for an hour or so search the wiki or maybe someone can get you a link using uboto here in the channel. BYE
[04:41] <ConfidentiaL> LinuxJones : Did you find the link?
[04:41] <ConfidentiaL> oh, lol:P
[04:41] <Seveas> IdleOne, launchpad.net/malone
[04:41] <Seveas> !bug
[04:41] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:41] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: also apt-get install modconf
[04:41] <thegladiator> hey yggdrasil where to download it from but ?
[04:41] <Seveas> !bugs
[04:41] <dimasta> there ist something wrong in ubuntu I think. When I'm deleting firefox ubuntu wants to delete gnome-app-install too
[04:41] <thegladiator> jetscreamer, whats modprobe?
[04:41] <IdleOne> Seveas:  thank you
[04:41] <yggdrasil__> um
[04:41] <jetscreamer> it's in the kernel
[04:41] <thegladiator> like just need the packg name
[04:41] <_jason> dimasta: gnome-app-install depends on firefox
[04:41] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: it loads modules
[04:41] <bur[n] er> Seveas: have you ever made an azureus package?
[04:42] <thegladiator> jetscreamer, if I do apt-get install modconf
[04:42] <Seveas> burner, nope
[04:42] <thegladiator> do I get the tv program also?
[04:42] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: modconf is a front end for loading kernel modules
[04:42] <thegladiator> i see...and what about the tv player program ?
[04:42] <weareallone> !ntfs
[04:42] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:42] <bur[n] er> Seveas: cool, thanks, i heard a dirty rumor ;)
[04:42] <Seveas> bur[n] er, hehe
[04:43] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: your module may already be loaded though... and use mythtv i hear is one way
[04:43] <yggdrasil__> heres my pastebing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9050 | im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand.
[04:43] <jetscreamer> !info myth-tv
[04:43] <ConfidentiaL> How do I know what X-Windows version I have???
[04:43] <thegladiator> yep
[04:43] <SamStone> does anybody know a good rss reader program for gnome, like akregator in kde?
[04:43] <jetscreamer> !find mythtv
[04:43] <Kyral> liferea?
[04:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mythtv' (7 shown): mythtv ;; mythtv-backend ;; mythtv-common ;; mythtv-database ;; mythtv-debug ;; mythtv-doc ;; mythtv-frontend.
[04:43] <thegladiator> thanks
[04:44] <bur[n] er> SamStone: liferea!!!!  kicks akregators ass
[04:44] <cyberglyph> !permissoins
[04:44] <ubotu> cyberglyph: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:44] <cyberglyph> !permission
[04:44] <SamStone> OK Thank you. I give it a try
[04:44] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cyberglyph
[04:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell cyberglyph about permissions
[04:44] <nbjayme> hello anybody here tried sox or rec to capture sound?
[04:44] <cyberglyph> !contents
[04:44] <bur[n] er> SamStone: it has an "unread" virtual folder that is amazing... i haven't found any other apps (windows included) that do this
[04:45] <LoPMX> hello, has anyone managed to run aixgl on ubuntu?
[04:45] <jetscreamer> ConfidentiaL: maybe dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[04:45] <bur[n] er> LoPMX: i was looking for the same thin
[04:45] <LoPMX> and does Xgl run with GMA 900?
[04:45] <cyberglyph> permissions isnt working.
[04:45] <jetscreamer> man mount search fmask & dmask for vfat or ntfs perms
[04:45] <yggdrasil__> heres my pastebing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9050 | im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand.
[04:45] <cyberglyph> im trying to access ntfs drives to copy files over.
[04:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell cyberglyph about ntfs
[04:45] <LjL> bur[n] er: i haven't found anything better than opera yet for mail, with the bayesian-virtual-folders... never used them for newsgroups though, but i suppose they could be useful there as well
[04:45] <yggdrasil__> cyberglyph mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs drive
[04:46] <_jason> cyberglyph: there is a table that explains permissions on that last link ubotu sent you
[04:46] <Seveas> Hi folks, little spamming: For all dapper lovers: /join #ubuntu+1 and make some room in here for support for the current stable versions
[04:46] <cyberglyph> i know the table, just dont konw how to get to it.. thx for help. <reserching>
[04:46] <yggdrasil__> hmmm dappers coming out soon ehh...
[04:47] <Seveas> yggdrasil__, april 20
[04:47] <yggdrasil__> cool
[04:47] <thegladiator> !modconf
[04:47] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator
[04:47] <ompaul> more spam !dapper
[04:47] <ompaul> !dapper
[04:47] <ubotu> [dapper]  the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[04:47] <LjL> Seveas: lately it appears like there are more people using dapper than people using breezy... at least that's the impression one gets =)
[04:47] <jetscreamer> /dev/hde4       /mnt/hde4     ntfs    noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,fmask=0333,dmask-0222,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[04:47] <thegladiator> yggdrasil,  jetscreamer Modconf is for TV only ? the modules ?
[04:48] <tombs> hi all
[04:48] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: modconf is to LOAD MODULES
[04:48] <cyberglyph> i cant mount drives, i need root access.  hence permissions.
[04:48] <yggdrasil__> thegladiator im having to basicly recompile my kernel
[04:48] <jetscreamer> !info modconf
[04:48] <ubotu> modconf: (Device Driver Configuration), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 0.2.49 (breezy), Packaged size: 1030 kB, Installed size: 3720 kB
[04:48] <Seveas> LjL, the xgl effect
[04:48] <wastrel> that's because the ones with dapper all have broken systems, while breezy is working pretty well for most
[04:48] <LjL> cyberglyph: and what's the problem with that?
[04:48] <thegladiator> yggdrasil, it doesnt work other wise?
[04:48] <_keroppi_> Can anyone get xgl working on breezy?
[04:48] <thegladiator> jetscreamer, modules for ?
[04:48] <cyberglyph> i dont have any scripts and i havnt been on a nix system for very long time.
[04:49] <LjL> Seveas: oh, is it that? is that thing "stable" enough for people to actually use it=
[04:49] <yggdrasil__> | im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand. | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9050
[04:49] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: there are bt-modules that 'may' need loading... in the kernel
[04:49] <cyberglyph> should i just try to use .htaccess?
[04:49] <LjL> wastrel: heh
[04:49] <Seveas> LjL, stable for some playing
[04:49] <yggdrasil__> well mine locks up on the hotplug part of boot with the card in
[04:49] <Seveas> I wouldn;t use it in a production env
[04:49] <yggdrasil__> so im not sure man
[04:49] <yggdrasil__> that card should have plenty of documentation
[04:49] <thegladiator> jetscreamer, and that requiers some work ? loading to the kernel etc ?
[04:49] <yggdrasil__> you have to compile the kernel
[04:49] <thegladiator> i see
[04:50] <jetscreamer> thegladiator: not much, if you use modconf
[04:50] <thegladiator> so its pretty diffiult for a newbie
[04:50] <thegladiator> I see
[04:50] <jetscreamer> no
[04:50] <jetscreamer> it's easy to load a module
[04:50] <LjL> Seveas: well, i confess i would rather try it too, even though i've always been a big supporter of extremely sober UIs... but you know =) anyway, it's not a matter of breezy or dapper for me, as i simply don't have a graphics accelerator ;)
[04:50] <yggdrasil__> thegladiator you should join #mythtv ? they might be able to help you more ?
[04:50] <blueyed> Hi. Since some days when grub appears there are just "weird colored blocks" on the screen instead of the menu. After pressing enter for the default entry the scrolling through text appears broken. It gets fixed when usplash comes up.
[04:50] <app> Any ideas why Breezy live cd arpwatch (-d) does only  sees broadcast arp replies? Like it would not run in promisc mode, but my syslog says my interface goes into promisc mode...
[04:50] <Seveas> LjL, hehehe
[04:50] <renlore> any one know of any satellite map software?
[04:50] <thegladiator> yep thank you
[04:51] <ideafix> theplagiator ?
[04:51] <blueyed> Could this be related to my TFT? Though I'm sure it worked at the beginning. (using Dapper btw)
[04:51] <thegladiator> yggdrasil, but wud they know about the drivers ? mayb yes ?
[04:51] <yggdrasil__> yea i would go ask
[04:51] <LjL> renlore: google *sort of* works under Wine
[04:51] <weareallone> stcyberglyph: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions#head-7a9975eee34c934ebe56e374ce2dc22e92c9b56a
[04:51] <thegladiator> yep
[04:51] <yggdrasil__> its more specific than here ...
[04:51] <wastrel> blueyed:
[04:51] <LjL> render: otherwise, there is a linux version of NASA worldwind, though it's quite different from the standard Windows version, and i haven't tried it
[04:51] <jetscreamer> wtf is kconfig
[04:51] <wastrel> er,  blueyed have you tried reintsalling grub?
[04:51] <LjL> renlore: that was for you
[04:51] <SamStone> wow Liferea really rules
[04:52] <wastrel> *reinstalling.   can't type today.
[04:52] <ideafix> what liferea?
[04:52] <chromebuntu> dammit WoW is still down
[04:52] <renlore> nod :)
[04:52] <jetscreamer> that's 'probably' your problem
[04:52] <wastrel> isn't WoW down every tuesday
[04:52] <chromebuntu> dm: you sort your machine out?
[04:52] <blueyed> wastrel: I've just seen that there's an update for it anyway. I'll try it.
[04:52] <yggdrasil__> | im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand. | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9050
[04:52] <ideafix> im goint to play WOW
[04:52] <jetscreamer> i just did
[04:52] <mesaboogie1> SamStone: sexy aye?
[04:53] <SamStone> mesaboogie1: yes
[04:53] <chromebuntu> wastrel: yup, its down evry tuesday but im impatient :)
[04:53] <LjL> renlore: what about just using google maps? not as fancy as those 3D programs, but i guess it's currently the only choice that actually has a chance of working decently
[04:53] <kdean06> LinuxJones, Alright, rebooted and did the lspci. "3Com Corp. 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]  (rev 30)'
[04:53] <mesaboogie1> SamStone:  have you tried any others?
[04:54] <SamStone> mesaboogie1: I just tried akregator,cause I always used KDE till yesterday.
[04:54] <cheryl> hi does ne one know how to get tcl-dev & tk-dev packages? so i can install amsn??
[04:54] <LjL> argh, a gnome convertee
[04:54] <yggdrasil__> now i me getting this ... ring a bell? make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop.
[04:55] <DigitalDuality> cheryl.. have you tried using syaptic?
[04:55] <cheryl> syaptic??
[04:55] <LjL> cheryl: "sudo aptitude instal tk8.4-dev"
[04:55] <DigitalDuality> synaptic
[04:55] <DigitalDuality> sorry
[04:55] <kdean06> !synaptic
[04:55] <ubotu> somebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:55] <yggdrasil__> ake: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop. can somone help ?
[04:55] <LjL> cheryl: anyway, why do you need to compile amsn from source?
[04:56] <cheryl> DigitalDuality: What is Synaptic?...
[04:56] <kdean06> cheryl, It's the GUI package management utility. It helps you find programs and installs the needed files for you, all in a pretty little menu thingy. (Love how technical that got at the end)
[04:56] <LjL> !tell cheryl about synaptic
[04:56] <DigitalDuality> Synaptic is the application that allows you to access the repositories for applications to install on Ubuntu
[04:57] <cheryl> LjL: I dunno t wouldnt let me install....it said for me to get those to installed prior to runnin it
[04:57] <LjL> cheryl: and you should *never* install any programs without using synaptic or aptitude or something that uses the APT system... unless you're *absolutely* sure there's no other way
[04:57] <IdleOne> kdean06:  you have a trigger for that response?
[04:57] <LjL> cheryl: did you download the Ubuntu version, that is a file with ".deb" extension?
[04:57] <yggdrasil__> | im trying to make menuconfig using gcc 3.4 for a vdr install script trying to create my kenrnel config can somone gime a hand. | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9050
[04:57] <kdean06> cheryl, use Synaptic to install amsn, or from command line apt-get install amsn
[04:57] <app> Why can't I nmap localhost on Breezy?
[04:57] <kdean06> IdleOne, Huh?
[04:58] <wastrel> app:  do you have nmap installed?
[04:58] <IdleOne> kdean06:  nm'
[04:58] <app> yes
[04:58] <thegladiator> folkz i have a problem  , it all started when I installed theme for Firefox 1.5 , i cant start FF now , it opens that "talkback" thingy ...what can I do now ?
[04:58] <cheryl> LjL: yes I got the one with the ".deb"
[04:58] <thegladiator> can anyone please hlpe me on that ?
[04:58] <thegladiator> I cant start firefox now: :(
[04:58] <wastrel> app:  what happens when you try ?
[04:58] <app> nmap gives a verbose error and unhelpful suggestions
[04:58] <LjL> cheryl: well, then i guess it just depends on the tcl/tk dev packages... anyway, "sudo aptitude install tk8.4-dev" should do the trick
[04:58] <thegladiator> i dont know how to remove those theme for FF
[04:58] <LjL> cheryl: do learn about the packaging system, though
[04:58] <ohgood> thegladiator: mv ~/.mozilla/firefox/ ~/.mozilla/firefox_OLD and try again
[04:59] <app> nmap Says try moprobe af_packet on Linux, try this and that on *BSD etc...
[04:59] <wastrel> app:  ifconfig lo bring up a working loopback?
[04:59] <app> Can anyone nmap localhost on Breezy live cd?
[04:59] <LjL> yggdrasil__: i think you need libncurses5-dev
[04:59] <yggdrasil__> thatnks ill try it
[04:59] <cheryl> kdean06: I tried the command line and it didn't work...its says "couldn't find package amsn"
[05:00] <app> My loopback is up, wastrel
[05:00] <wastrel> app:  /etc/hosts have localhost defined?
[05:00] <mesaboogie1> SamStone:  you're right it's niceLookin' ,have fun!
[05:00] <app> I can also not nmap my numeric IP, only other IPs
[05:00] <SamStone> thx
[05:00] <LjL> yggdrasil__: one tip -- install the "auto-apt" package. as you can see, your compile is complaining about a missing "curses.h" -- now, "auto-apt search curses.h" will let you know what package that's contained in
[05:00] <yggdrasil__> ljl that worked
[05:00] <wastrel> app:  i dunno :] 
[05:01] <SamStone> So is there a clipboard program like klipper for gnome? (thats the only feature, that I'm missing now in Gnome)
[05:01] <yggdrasil__> thanks
[05:01] <LjL> yggdrasil__: (though you should first run "auto-apt update" to generate the database)
[05:01] <thegladiator> ohgood, good thats better , anyway I can remove the themes folder alone maybe ?
[05:02] <LjL> cheryl: that's because amsn is in universe, and you don't have it enable. see the bot's link
[05:02] <app> wastrel, it look like I can't even ping myself. Hmmm....
[05:02] <LjL> cheryl: but anyway, you're quite safe installing amsn 0.9.5 from the site, as long as you have "tk8.4-dev" installed as i told you
[05:02] <wastrel> app:  maybe the livecd is running a firewall?  i never used the livecd - know nothing about it
[05:02] <ohgood> thegladiator: look in your ~/.mozilla/firefox/   for stuff, you can rename things, then start firefox and try again. btw, once you find the offending theme, you can get all your old settings back, by renameing it again. :)
[05:03] <thegladiator> yep thank you :.
[05:03] <ohgood> np :)
[05:03] <marc> In the how to install samba section of the howto on the website for the unofficial Ubuntu howto it states to "insert system_username = "network username"" into /etc/samba/smbusers do I actually insert "network username" or an actual user name?
[05:03] <LjL> wastrel: ubuntu has no open ports by default -- isn't that perhaps simply the reason why nmap isn't finding anything?
[05:03] <cheryl> Thanks LjL & kdean06 :)
[05:03] <nm> merc: an actual username
[05:03] <nm> hehe
[05:04] <LjL> Marc: i think you can avoid inserting anything, as long as your Unix usernames are the same as the Samba (i.e. sharing) usernames
[05:04] <marc> nm: thanks
[05:04] <app> Well, the next machine in this class works ok, wastrel. This is somewhat indeterministic.
[05:04] <corona1> does anyone here use obsidian + ?
[05:04] <marc> LjL: how do I make all my users samba users?
[05:05] <app> I've been running arpspoof and ettercap & such, maybe they screwed up something, wastrel
[05:05] <LjL> marc: i think you simply need to give them a samba password, using "smbpasswd"
[05:05] <marc> LjL: Ill try that, thanks :)
[05:05] <app> wastrel my words back. It does not work elsewhere
[05:05] <LjL> marc: i know there's also a way to keep samba passwords synced with system passwords, but i've never tried that
[05:06] <cradek> that is installed by the emc2 deb package, there is no setup required
[05:06] <cradek> oops, wrong channel
[05:07] <dreamil|lab> any answer to this problem while compiling firefox 1.5 on  5.10 amd64 http://rafb.net/paste/results/A9mrdO58.html
[05:08] <SirFire> Can I ask a technical quest about hardware here?
[05:09] <jimcooncat> SirFire, why not?
[05:09] <SirFire> OK :)
[05:10] <micha01> hallo? kann ich hier Supportfragen stellen?
[05:10] <meisam> IdleOnehi guys
[05:10] <ConfidentiaL> Where should I save my ATI driver files before install?
[05:10] <meisam> sorry i have installed eclipse package last month..and now i see iys not working properly... i wanna reinstall it again...
[05:10] <chromebuntu> micha01: specken ze deutsche NEIN
[05:11] <chromebuntu> :P
[05:11] <micha01> oh, sorry
[05:11] <micha01> can I ask for some support in Xorg
[05:11] <wastrel> gotta run
[05:11] <Seveas> micha01, just ask 
[05:12] <SirFire> If I activate USB on my board, ubuntu 5.10 freezes. I saw that using another distro by a live CD this doesn't happen. What do you think if I run the live CD, watch the "lsmod" result and compare with the modules running on Ubuntu? Could I solve the prob this way?
[05:12] <ConfidentiaL>  Where should I save my ATI driver files before install???
[05:12] <Seveas> SirFire, it'll at least help diagnosing the problem so it's a good idea
[05:12] <meisam> Seveas hi friend...as far as u know me..im just asking u...sorry if u r not busy...would u help me and reinstall the eclipse
[05:12] <Seveas> !tell ConfidentiaL about ati
[05:13] <micha01> my Laptop has Ubuntu without GL, but if i load Kubuntu on a Live-DVD GL is supported. Whats my mistake?
[05:13] <Seveas> meisam, apt-get install --reinstall eclipse
[05:13] <micha01> I copyed the xorg.conf, but no change
[05:13] <Seveas> micha01, what kind of video card do you have?
[05:13] <micha01> its correctly in both xorg.confs
[05:14] <meisam> Seveas i wanted remove the package but it did not work
[05:14] <meisam> Seveas and also ur command didint work
[05:14] <ConfidentiaL> Severas : Yeh, I know that, but I need to know where to save the files, as all the places I try I get "U dont have the right to write her" or something like that...
[05:16] <micha01> somebody can help?
[05:16] <StucKman> hi all. can't make this kubuntu configure properly the eth0. avahi-daemon gets in the middle. talks about eth0.2 and nonsense like that.
[05:18] <StucKman> micha01: can you (re)state your problem?
[05:18] <app> It look like I can't ping myself, because I have no route to 127.*.*.* How did this happen? I just booted the Breezy live cd?
[05:18] <StucKman> app: route -n says anything?
[05:18] <mesaboogie1> micha01:  and did you drop "out of x" as one of your steps?
[05:19] <SirFire> I thought that just having "EHCI" running as a module was enough to ensure USB would be properly identified on new Kernels...I am wrong?
[05:19] <micha01> mesaboogie1: out of x?
[05:19] <mesaboogie1> runlevel 2
[05:19] <micha01> ?
[05:20] <ConfidentiaL>  Where should I save my ATI driver files before install???
[05:20] <mesaboogie1> TEXT MODE >no gui<
[05:20] <Seveas> ConfidentiaL, homedir will do
[05:20] <app> StucKman, yeah route -n confirms, there is only a route to my local net and default, no 127 anything
[05:20] <StucKman> app: interesting
[05:20] <ConfidentiaL> Seveas : Then terminal say it cant find it...
[05:20] <micha01> mesaboogie1: it works ALL fine, but without OpenGL
[05:20] <StucKman> add it like this: route add -net 127.0.0.0 lo
[05:20] <app> And I also get "route add -net 127.0.0.0\n
[05:20] <app> SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument
[05:20] <app> "
[05:21] <dougsko> hey guys, are the repositories down right now?
[05:21] <StucKman> app: ah!
[05:21] <micha01> and with Kubuntu-Live it works fine
[05:21] <StucKman> app: that's it! the script is wrong
[05:21] <IdleOne> ConfidentiaL:  after downloading you need to cd to the directory you saved it in
[05:21] <StucKman> that \n shouldn't be there
[05:21] <app> Tell me more, Stuckman
[05:21] <colm> heh, just saw this http://gmailskins.mozdev.org/ - it's like an ubuntu human skin for gmail ;-)
[05:21] <StucKman> app: I'm not a bot :)
[05:21] <app> NO I just added it to show you command-response pair in one line....
[05:22] <well_> uses anyone fluxbox [on hoary] 
[05:22] <ConfidentiaL> IdleOne : How do I cd to home directory?
[05:22] <StucKman> app: take out the \n at the end
[05:22] <nm> heh
[05:22] <nm> the human skin is probably one of the ugliest things i've ever witnessed
[05:22] <dougsko> well_, i do on breezy
[05:22] <IdleOne> ConfidentiaL: cd ~/home
[05:22] <nm> why anyone would encourage it, or develop it for gmail
[05:22] <nm> tsk tsk
[05:22] <rad4Christ> SR_Bronze, you around for a little mor assistance?
[05:23] <StucKman> yor irc client is doing funny things on what it copies to the clipboard
[05:23] <SamStone> human skin + xgl looks very good I think
[05:23] <dentist> anyone know the package name for the base gtk? searching for it brings up hundreds :(
[05:23] <StucKman> dentist: libgtk-something?
[05:23] <well_> my notebook needs 2 minutes for booting. that cant be normal.. so has anyone the same problem?? dougsko ?
[05:23] <_keroppi_> How do I get ubuntu to create a /dev/fb0 framebuffer device? I've already pulled vesafb out of the blacklist, and put it in /etc/modules.conf, and it is being loaded on boot.
[05:23] <colm> nm, no accounting for taste, I like it!
[05:24] <dougsko> well_, i dont know, my computer takes a minute or so to boot up
[05:24] <SamStone> my take 35 to start gdm
[05:24] <TomaszD> Any Ubuntu PPC users around? Can any of you do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133702 for me?
[05:24] <IdleOne> SamStone:  35 minutes?
[05:24] <SamStone> noo
[05:24] <rad4Christ> Or anyone able to assist me getting Samba up and going? I'm following this Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28sharing%29%7C%28folders%29
[05:25] <SamStone> 35sek
[05:25] <SamStone> sec
[05:25] <IdleOne> lol
[05:25] <IdleOne> oh ok
[05:25] <GTX> Guys is there anyway to close xserver
[05:25] <GTX> when Im not using it
[05:25] <GTX> but keep the programs which are running on
[05:25] <GTX> ie vmware
[05:25] <app> Stuckman, looks like running dhclient (manually) break my routing table, local pings stop after that (I rebooted a new live Breezy)
[05:25] <well_> ive installed ubuntu(with gnoome) then kde and at least fluxbox.. is there a way to see what the system does after logging in with gdm??
[05:25] <dougsko> for some reason in synaptic, when i click on repositories, it just downloads from them and doesnt show me the list of servers. anyone know why that might be happening?
[05:26] <IdleOne> dougsko:  I dont think it does
[05:26] <IdleOne> if you want to see the list use terminal
[05:26] <LjL> GTX: no
[05:26] <StucKman> app: ah, I have probs w/ dhcp too
[05:26] <StucKman> but of another nature
[05:26] <LjL> GTX: why do you need to close it anyway?
[05:27] <LjL> well_: what do you mean "see what the system does"?
[05:27] <well_> has anyone experience with ubuntu+fluxbox=slow boot up??
[05:27] <GTX> LjL because all its running is virtual servers.
[05:28] <IdleOne> well_:  I installed fluxbox lastnight and all I got was a black screen :/
[05:28] <LjL> GTX: i don't know about vmware, but qemu can be run in console mode without any graphics at all
[05:28] <IdleOne> well try xfce4
[05:28] <mesaboogie1> ouch"!!!
[05:28] <IdleOne> well_:
[05:28] <LjL> GTX: or, you could use a "virtual" x server, like the VNC server... X will still be open, but it won't get to your graphics card. but i guess the reason you really want to do this is to save memory?
[05:28] <well_> i what to see what linux does when it starts fluxbox...
[05:29] <mesaboogie1> it flys usually
[05:29] <_keroppi_> Does anyone in here have a framebuffer device in their dev directory? (/dev/fb[0-31]  ?)
[05:29] <LjL> well_: CTRL+ALT+Fx will switch to virtual terminals. i think terminal 8 is where the logs go
[05:29] <LjL> _keroppi_: yes
[05:29] <sam__> how do I change permissions on my windows partitions so I can read/write
[05:29] <well_> thx LjL
[05:29] <IdleOne> sam__:  ntfs?
[05:29] <sam__> yeah
[05:29] <dentist> mmmm i've got libgtk installed
[05:29] <LjL> sam__: you don't write, if it's an NTFS partition
[05:29] <IdleOne> sam__:  you cant write to ntfs only read
[05:29] <dentist> but gtk-config is still a no go
[05:30] <LjL> !tell sam__ about ntfs
[05:30] <sam__> with kubuntu I could write to ntfs
[05:30] <SamStone> no
[05:30] <LjL> dentist: gtk-config is in libgtk1.2-dev
[05:30] <well_> IdleOne, ive tried xfce for a few time, and its nice bbut not fluxlike, istnit?
[05:30] <[DFC] EggMan> Hello, I have an install issue, I installed Ubuntu just fine but for the second part of the install (the part without the CD in the drive) it just hangs on 0%
[05:30] <LjL> sam__: no, not really
[05:30] <StucKman> sam__: no, you can't
[05:31] <sam__> i totally did
[05:31] <_keroppi_> LjL: Did you do anything to get that working, or did it just work when you installed ubuntu?
[05:31] <StucKman> the kernel has no support for that
[05:31] <LjL> sam__: then it's not ntfs
[05:31] <dentist> ah ha
[05:31] <sam__> oh yeah it's fat32
[05:31] <LjL> sam__: you're probably using FAT32
[05:31] <StucKman> except by using very experimental code
[05:31] <SamStone> rofl
[05:31] <sam__> that's my other win2k machine I forgot
[05:31] <[DFC] EggMan> XD
[05:31] <sam__> so no writing to ntfs at all
[05:32] <LjL> _keroppi_: it just worked, but then i guess my configuration is sort of unusual -- my graphics card has no driver, so ubuntu is using it as vesa (possibly through the framebuffer)
[05:32] <LjL> sam__: not currently, and not in the near future
[05:32] <[DFC] EggMan> Hello, I have an install issue, I installed Ubuntu just fine but for the second part of the install (the part without the CD in the drive) it just hangs on 0%, could this be realted to failing to copy al the pakages from CD ?
[05:32] <alien9391> sam__ k3b
[05:32] <_keroppi_> LjL: Ubuntu blacklists all fb modules by default though
[05:32] <bSON> hi
[05:32] <SonicYooth> can anyone tell me how to get rid of the brown screen that loads behind the splash screen? id like to change to color that matches the rest of my theme
[05:32] <LjL> sam__: i think there *is* some write support (that has to be enabled in weird ways), but it just allows overwriting files without changing their length. practically useless
[05:33] <bSON> are there other ubuntu mirrors for flight cd 4?
[05:33] <alien9391> k3b can help with ntfs as far as i heard
[05:33] <LjL> _keroppi_: i don't know if my framebuffer actually works, but the /dev/fb0 is there
[05:33] <sam__> what do I need to allow mp3 playback?
[05:33] <bSON> the main one is pretty overloaded
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[05:33] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:33] <[DFC] EggMan> !install
[05:33] <ubotu> [install]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[05:33] <_keroppi_> LjL: k thanks
[05:33] <cradek> bSON: use bittorrent
[05:33] <LjL> _keroppi_: anyway, lsmod tells me there *are* a few framebuffer-related modules running
[05:34] <GTX> Guy's Im using an eggdrop on ubuntu server, and it says it boots up etc, but it doesnt connect however when I add -n to see what its doing it does! any ideas?
[05:34] <LjL> _keroppi_: vesafb, vga16fb and fbcon
[05:34] <sam__> what package do i need to be able to play mp3s?
[05:34] <bSON> cradek: i only get 60kb/s with bittorrent
[05:34] <cradek> bSON: behind nat?
[05:34] <IdleOne> GTX:  I believe you need to open ports on router 113 i think it is
[05:34] <cradek> !mp3
[05:34] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:34] <bSON> cradek: yeah...
[05:35] <LjL> sam__: it's explained quite clearly in the link people gave youy
[05:35] <cradek> bSON: ask google how to fix bittorrent
[05:35] <Gnumannen> How do I remove GRUB?
[05:35] <cradek> bSON: you have to allow incoming connections
[05:35] <[DFC] EggMan> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bittorrent+port+forwarding&spell=1
[05:35] <Gnumannen> !grub
[05:35] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:35] <well_> !grub
[05:35] <bSON> i know, but i don't own the router, my father does (I'm 15)...
[05:35] <GTX> lol IdleOne, I know about networking, it works when -n is added to the command!
[05:36] <GTX> IdleOne, but then it debugs crap
[05:36] <LjL> Gnumannen: why *would* you remove grub anyway? doesn't sound like a good idea
[05:36] <cradek> bSON: then ask him for help I guess?
[05:36] <dentist> anyone knw what.. "imlib-config" "gdk-pixbuf=config" "gnome-config" are part of?
[05:36] <IdleOne> GTX:  fiest starup of the bot?
[05:36] <IdleOne> first*
[05:36] <Gnumannen> LjL, I just have one OS, and I have a SATA which doesnt wwork with grub
[05:36] <Gnumannen> So I can't boot because of grub
[05:37] <LjL> dentist: yes, i do - but i have better advice
[05:37] <LjL> dentist: install the "auto-apt" package, run "auto-apt update", and then "auto-apt search imlib-config" (and same for the others)
[05:37] <Seveas> !seen breezy
[05:37] <ubotu> breezy <n=richie@81-179-97-225.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 6d 16h 57m 45s ago, saying: 'and install it if it isnt'.
[05:37] <bSON> cradek: i think he won't like the idea of the router allowing incoming connections... but anyway, thanks :)
[05:37] <cradek> bSON: welcome
[05:38] <dentist> sorry i'll tell you what im doing.. installing a perl module from cpan and its just saying error cant find x file
[05:38] <bSON> cradek: i'm uploading 1.3kb/s
[05:38] <StucKman> Gnumannen: make the bios see you sata drive and then grub will see it too
[05:38] <mesaboogie1> !cinelera
[05:38] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mesaboogie1
[05:38] <LjL> Gnumannen: i see... well, try "apt-cache show mbr", that should probably overwrite your grub, but i don't know what the consequences of removing grub would really be
[05:38] <Gnumannen> StucKman, my BIOS dont have any problem seeing it
[05:38] <cradek> bSON: I'm no bt expert, but I'm sure you need that incoming port to get reasonable dl speeds.
[05:38] <mesaboogie1> loL
[05:39] <Gnumannen> LjL, from the Ubuntu CD then?
[05:39] <dentist> down to these two now "gdk-pixbuf=config" "gnome-config"
[05:39] <StucKman> Gnumannen: then grub should see it...
[05:39] <LjL> Gnumannen: you mean booting from there?
[05:39] <mesaboogie1> ] hehe
[05:39] <mesaboogie1> !cinelerra
[05:39] <ubotu> I guess cinelerra is http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html, or http://heroinewarrior.com/
[05:39] <Gnumannen> LjL, yeah...? Because I can't boot because of grub
[05:39] <rad4Christ> I need some assistance with Samba on Ubuntu, could someone please help me?
[05:39] <colm> freenx question: with freenx I get the audio and video capabilities of the host.  Is it possible to also allow access to the CD writer on the host?
[05:39] <sam__> gstreamer packages are already installed
[05:40] <LjL> dentist: auto-apt will find gnome-config. on the other hand, "gtk-pixbuf=config" doesn't quite look like a *file*
[05:40] <sam__> and still no mp3 playback
[05:40] <LjL> dentist: it looks like a configuration option
[05:40] <GTX> IdleOne, Hounistly Im not stupi :/
[05:40] <IdleOne> GTX:  did I say you were?
[05:40] <LjL> Gnumannen: yeah, well, you can install software using the live cd, so i guess that should work in theory
[05:40] <Gnumannen> Okey, I try, thank you
[05:41] <LjL> Gnumannen: you install "mbr", and then you run it and tell it to overwrite your boot HDD's boot record
[05:41] <GTX> IdleOne,  no but :p
[05:41] <lisi> Can anyone here help me with bittornado?
[05:41] <LjL> Gnumannen: but, really, i don't think linux with boot without a bootloader like LILO or Grub doing the first level bootstrap
[05:41] <ejofee> is there any gnu/linux app which can help me cut 5 minutes out of an .avi file and make the 5 min segments an .avi file? what about 10 minutes?
[05:41] <IdleOne> GTX:  was trying to help but nm Im not in the mood anymore
[05:41] <well_> has anyone of you already installed dapper?? is it vers unstable???
[05:41] <well_> very
[05:42] <Zmanu> hi
[05:42] <mesaboogie1> ejofee: !cinelerra
[05:42] <ejofee> mesaboogie1: thanks you
[05:42] <colm> well_, very stable here
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> well_,  i got it - it works.. theres all sorts of little -issues..  i say wait a few more mo.
[05:42] <LjL> ejofee: perhaps "apt-cache show avifile-utils"
[05:42] <well_> ok
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> unless you know your way around linux :P and want to have 'fun'
[05:42] <mesaboogie1> !cinelerra
[05:42] <ubotu> cinelerra is, like, http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html, or http://heroinewarrior.com/
[05:42] <rad4Christ> Well, can anyone point me to another channel where someone can help with with an Ubuntu/Samba issue?
[05:43] <lisi> I'm using breezy, and love it so far, but have a few issues I can't figure out
[05:43] <Zmanu> I install eric3 that is a python IDE under ubuntu, but it need qt, and I don't know why but I have big fonts, and I don't know what I must install
[05:43] <ejofee> LjL: thanks
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> rad4Christ,  #linux,#linuxhelp, or reading the samba books. :P
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[05:43] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:43] <mesaboogie1> #samba?
[05:43] <rad4Christ> Tried, Mesa, no one responds there.
[05:44] <rad4Christ> ubotu, tried the first, my PC doesn't do what the wikis tates should happen.
[05:44] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, rad4Christ
[05:44] <ejofee> (the last question, "what about 10 minutes?", was meant to be funny and attract attention) :)
[05:44] <lisi> does anyone here use bittornado?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> rad4Christ,  elaborate on the problem. the forums are a good place to read up on also.
[05:44] <jimcooncat> rad4Christ, ubutu is a bot
[05:44] <dentist> ok im down to just gnome-config - what package is that in?
[05:45] <StucKman> lisi: I used to...
[05:45] <SonicYooth> hey guys - i just downloaded a program (last.fm player) and I'm able to run it directly out of the tar file. Where should this application be moved to? (as in whats the typical place people store their progs?)
[05:46] <lisi> well, I downloaded my  first file with it but instead of an avi file sitting on my hard drive, which I expected, I had a directory with the name of the file, and inside there were a bunch of rar files that I could not open
[05:46] <lisi> how do I view the file?
[05:47] <StucKman> SonicYooth: /usr/local/bin, ~/bin or ~/locl/bin. those last two, you gotta setup the PATH envvar properly.
[05:47] <StucKman> !rar
[05:47] <ubotu> rar is, like, totally, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:47] <mesaboogie1> !video tutorial
[05:47] <ubotu> mesaboogie1: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:47] <StucKman> lisi: see what ubotu said
[05:47] <rad4Christ> Dr_Willis, no WIndows PC's can ping this box, and I need assistance sharing folders, but each folder is only accessible by a specific windows username.
[05:47] <[FR33_B33R] > !skype
[05:47] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:47] <mesaboogie1> k thanx ubotu
[05:47] <GTX> how do I send a dir, i normaly use "send" in ftp to send a singlefile, what command do I use to send a folder "This is for command line ftp"
[05:47] <lisi> hmm, is that normal though that it's like 24 separate files instead of one avi file?
[05:48] <mesaboogie1> has anyone seen any video tutorials?????
[05:48] <lisi> is this a bittornado thing or the specific file I downloaded?
[05:48] <rad4Christ> I'm tempted to just give up and put Windows 2003 on here.
[05:48] <Seveas> GTX, mkdir foo; cd foo; lcd foo; mput *
[05:48] <Seveas> (in the ftp client)
[05:48] <mivecz> what is  the  diference of  ubuntu  breeze and ubuntu hoary?
[05:48] <StucKman> lisi: basiccaly, arar is a compressing utility, like zip. you must uncompress them and you'll get teh .avi you want
[05:48] <StucKman> lisi: no, that's what the .torrent has
[05:48] <mesaboogie1> rad4Christ:  can't you fit both?
[05:48] <LjL> mivecz: hoary was the older version, and it's obsolete
[05:48] <lisi> hmm, ok, thanks
[05:48] <StucKman> lisi: np
[05:48] <LjL> mivecz: breezy is current, and dapper will be the next version (due on 20 april)
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> rad4Christ,  if the box's cant even PING it. then you got some firewalling or iptables rules blocking it.
[05:48] <SonicYooth> StucKman: Thanks :)
[05:49] <cradek> is that the one I saw last night?
[05:49] <Seveas> LjL, it's still supported, so not obsolete
[05:49] <lisi> Stuckman: what's what the .torrent has?
[05:49] <StucKman> SonicYooth: np
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> rad4Christ,  and the way the default homes are set up - each user can only access their own home dir.
[05:49] <A-L-P-H-A> #ubuntu+1
[05:49] <rad4Christ> THanks Dr_Willis, I'll work on getting the network to SEE the box, then I'll try back.
[05:49] <mivecz> any  script  auto to  install  desktop manager  like  kde  xfce ?
[05:49] <LjL> Seveas: well i guess for someone who doesn't know the difference between the two, considering hoary obsolete and just installing breezy will do no harm ;)
[05:49] <Seveas> LjL, ack
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> rad4Christ,  a read of that 'using samba' book (online) is a good way tog et started in the fun details of samba.
[05:49] <SonicYooth> StucKman: Sorry, first day with Ubuntu.. so it says I don't have permission. This means I need to be logged in as "root" correct? :-/
[05:49] <LjL> !tell mivecz about apt-get
[05:50] <Exxpert> anyone have time to help me with an problem?,, just installed ubuntu, on first startup the monitor goes "no supported mode"... -oh crap i think.. then i try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  and take away all settings that the monitor not supports,, choosed medium and carried on,, now the monitor works on the startup but when  x is loaded the screen wents blank :-/..Dear ubuntupeople...
[05:50] <Exxpert> ...help meee..*desperate*
[05:50] <SonicYooth> StucKman: (permission to write to that dir that is)
[05:50] <thegladiator> Exxpert, sudo
[05:50] <mivecz> i want  to  get  E17
[05:50] <LjL> mivecz: "sudo apt-cache search <keywords>" will let you look for programs, "sudo apt-cache show <packagename>" will show the info about a program, and "sudo aptitude install <packagename>" will install it
[05:50] <thegladiator> oh sorry mistell
[05:50] <LjL> mivecz: for kde, for example, you need to install kubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <StucKman> lisi: hmm, the .torrenyt file has info of files that it ``contains''. sometimes the original creator of the .torrent file precompresses the contents in a fashion of what you got. I don' t get why they do that.
[05:50] <GTX> Seveas, it has a folder in a folder thoe
[05:50] <LjL> mivecz: for xfce, i don't know really, but i suppose it will be called xfce or xfce4. try "apt-cache search xfce"
[05:51] <mivecz> FOr enlighment?
[05:51] <thegladiator> SonicYooth, u need to be root
[05:51] <Exxpert> thegladiator: Cant see anythig on screen,, black and dead..:-/
[05:51] <thegladiator> !zdesktop
[05:51] <LjL> mivecz: i don't know. perhaps try "apt-cache search enlightment"
[05:51] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator
[05:51] <thegladiator> !xdesktop
[05:51] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator
[05:51] <Seveas> GTX, then read the ftp manpage ;)
[05:51] <SonicYooth> thegladiator: Is that something I can do from command prompt or do i need to log out and back in again?
[05:51] <thegladiator> there is xdesktop meta pakacge for sfce I guess
[05:51] <StucKman> SonicYooth: yes, you nees root perms for storing them in /usr/local/bin. is not the case in the last two paths I mentioned, but you still would need to setup PATH envvar properly if you use them
[05:51] <Exxpert> !xdesktop
[05:51] <nalioth> mivecz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment
[05:51] <mivecz> ubuntu breeze have  cd  to fix  some bugs?
[05:51] <lisi> StuckmanL: thanks, I'm going to download a different one and hope it works better
[05:51] <thegladiator> SonicYooth, u can use sudo command or su --
[05:52] <nalioth> thegladiator: please don't do that
[05:52] <LjL> Exxpert, thegladiator: that's xubuntu-desktop
[05:52] <StucKman> mivecz: you mean installer bugs?
[05:52] <SonicYooth> thegladiator: gotcha. thanks!
[05:52] <thegladiator> SonicYooth, sudo xxx with ask for pwd...
[05:52] <mivecz> yes
[05:52] <thegladiator> nalioth, sorry which one ?
[05:52] <jimcooncat> thegladiator, do you mean xubuntu-desktop?
[05:52] <StucKman> mivecz: I think not
[05:52] <Exxpert> thanks..
[05:52] <nalioth> thegladiator: there is no "su" for root in *buntu
[05:52] <SonicYooth> StucKman: thanks also :)
[05:52] <thegladiator> yeah xubuntu-desktop top sorry
[05:52] <thegladiator> oh sorry
[05:52] <mivecz> and it works...but no breezy packaged build yet... what is mean that?
[05:52] <thegladiator> though swithch user mode is also supported as in other OS
[05:52] <dentist> LjL, that worked nicely thx
[05:53] <LjL> mivecz: bugfixes have their specific repository. use "sudo apt-get update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" regularly to get the latest fixes
[05:53] <Exxpert> is there a way to start ubuntu in consolemode?
[05:53] <nalioth> thegladiator: this is not "other OS", it runs a bit differently
[05:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Exxpert about bum
[05:53] <jimcooncat> how do I turn off ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt--?
[05:53] <thegladiator> correct
[05:53] <LjL> mivecz: also, you should probably enable the universe and multiverse repositories, to go from about 4000 installable programs to about 17000. the bot will tell you how
[05:54] <mivecz> ok
[05:54] <stephelton> where can i find thermal info on my cpu?
[05:54] <LjL> mivecz: i think Ubuntu's Gnome also has an automatic updater that will save you the trouble of the above-mentioned "dist-upgrade" thing. i don't use gnome, so i don't know how that works
[05:55] <LjL> stephelton: install "lm-sensors"
[05:55] <LjL> stephelton: then, use apt-cache to search for "sensors" if you want a GUI program, there are a few
[05:55] <Exxpert> nalioth: get the point,, but i cant see anything,, blank screen.. monitors blank.. need to start in consolemode to change my x-server settings..:-(
[05:55] <[FR33_B33R] > hi
[05:55] <[FR33_B33R] > am having trouble with skype
[05:55] <[FR33_B33R] > could nayone help?
[05:56] <Exxpert> nalioth: And yeees im a n00b;-)
[05:56] <LjL> !skype
[05:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:56] <ConfidentiaL> I have a widescreen on my laptop, but when I go on the change resolution "thing" I only get resolutions for 4x3 monitors(kinda stretched now). Any1 know how I can change this?
[05:56] <[FR33_B33R] > that didnt help too much
[05:56] <nalioth> Exxpert:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start will do you alright
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell [FR33_B33R]  about fixres
[05:56] <[FR33_B33R] > cool
[05:56] <[FR33_B33R] > let me try that
[05:57] <LjL> nalioth: didn't you mean confidentiaL?
[05:57] <elzapp> ubotu: tell me about fixres
[05:57] <[FR33_B33R] > huh?
[05:57] <[FR33_B33R] > wtf
[05:57] <[FR33_B33R] > hahhahha
[05:57] <thegladiator> how to reinstall epiphamy from the command line ?
[05:57] <dentist> DOooooh
[05:57] <LjL> thegladiator: sudo aptitude install epuphany
[05:57] <nalioth> thegladiator: sudo apt-get install --reinstall epiphany-browser
[05:57] <thegladiator> thank you
[05:58] <well_> !fixres
[05:58] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:58] <dentist> "No rule to make target 'build/perl-gtk-ref.pod' needed by 'manifypods' stop
[05:58] <ConfidentiaL> !fixres
[05:58] <Exxpert> nalioth: Okai,, that IS possible,, but how to get somewhere to type it in?,, I want to the commandline,, monitor hates my resolution
[05:58] <LjL> dentist: ?
[05:58] <dentist> anyone seent hat while doing a 'cpan install gtk'
[05:59] <LjL> dentist: let me try
[05:59] <nalioth> Exxpert: hit ctrl-alt-f2 for a console, then ctrl-alt-f7 to come back to a gui
[05:59] <Exxpert> nalioth: *trying*
[05:59] <DjDarkman> hy deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ,is this repository is down?
[05:59] <alien9391> or alt+f7
[06:00] <LjL> dentist: (anyway, i don't know much about perl, but it appears that GTK for perl is in the repositories)
[06:00] <dentist> libgtk2-perl?
[06:01] <LjL> DjDarkman: the site itself is up
[06:01] <LjL> dentist: yep
[06:01] <dentist> yeah i am just trying that now
[06:01] <Exxpert> nalioth: doesent work..:-C  is there not a way to start directly into commandmode?
[06:01] <DjDarkman> hmmm LjL then why i get this:
[06:01] <DjDarkman> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ro.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:01] <LjL> Exxpert: what's the problem, you have a blank screen?
[06:02] <LjL> DjDarkman: i said the *site* is up, but perhaps the ubuntu mirror is currently under manteinance or something...
[06:02] <nalioth> Exxpert: yes, read the bots msg re BUM
[06:02] <DjDarkman> LjL: are there other mirrors?
[06:03] <StucKman> DjDarkman: lots, like, deb archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu etc etc
[06:03] <LjL> DjDarkman: of course, just change "ro." into the acronym for another country
[06:03] <LjL> DjDarkman: "it." was working up to some minutes ago
[06:03] <DjDarkman> ok LjL 10x 4 the help
[06:04] <Silivrenion> I need a windows utility to make an ubuntu boot floppy?
[06:04] <Exxpert> LjL: The problem is that i installed ubuntu and it looks good,, the little "ubuntu"logo comes up and things starts to load up.. but then when its gonna start x the monitor flicks a pair of times and then ends up black.. sorry to bother you guys..:-C
[06:04] <turtlesoup> i finally got the ubuntu network install working from this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28installation%29         but when configuring my apt get sources, i selected the wrong one, is there a way to change the source?
[06:04] <StucKman> Silivrenion: there's rawrite, but, can't you use the boot cd's?
[06:05] <Silivrenion> no, the controller's damaged
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Exxpert abotu fixres
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Exxpert about fixres
[06:05] <Silivrenion> it boots only knoppix-std for some odd reason
[06:05] <LjL> Exxpert: well, i would tell you to pass "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel when you boot, to go to single-user text mode... but i'm not sure how that behaves with Ubuntu's lack of a root password
[06:05] <Silivrenion> all others it gives an error
[06:05] <stephelton> LjL: i have no x installed. i was hoping there was something in /proc i coult cat
[06:05] <Silivrenion> i have a usb floppy drive i want to use to try to boot the machine
[06:05] <StucKman> Silivrenion: then look for rawrite or rawrite2
[06:06] <Silivrenion> ok
[06:06] <StucKman> Silivrenion: do you have the floppy images?
[06:06] <GTX> Guy's Im using an eggdrop on ubuntu server, and it says it boots up etc, but it doesnt connect however when I add -n to see what its doing it does! any ideas?
[06:06] <Silivrenion> StucKman :: no
[06:06] <Exxpert> isent there a way to choose textlogin in grub or something??
[06:07] <bushito> !mp3
[06:07] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:07] <nalioth> Exxpert: BUM will allow you any login options you like
[06:07] <Seveas> !find akode
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'akode' (2 shown): akode ;; akode-mpeg.
[06:07] <Seveas> !info akode-mpeg
[06:07] <ubotu> akode-mpeg: (akode mpeg plugin), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[06:07] <StucKman> Silivrenion: I *guess* they are in the cd's
[06:07] <Exxpert> nalioth: but HOW to install bum without seeing something??
[06:08] <turtlesoup> is there a way to change my apt get source during setup?
[06:08] <Exxpert> nalioth: my screen is blank!
[06:08] <stephelton> is there anything in /proc i can cat to see my cpu / northbridge temp? preferably something supplied with the default kernel
[06:08] <nalioth> Exxpert: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the vesa driver
[06:08] <StucKman> Exxpert: try adding ``single'' to the kernel params in grub
[06:09] <StucKman> stephelton: look fot acpi
[06:09] <turtlesoup> i am using network setup and it is stalled at the installing packages screen, how can i fix?
[06:09] <stephelton> StucKman: i couldn't find anything under acpi...
[06:09] <LjL> stephelton: then just install lm-sensors
[06:09] <LjL> stephelton: there is also sensord if you want something that periodically monitors and logs
[06:09] <LjL> Exxpert: hm, i think there's recovery mode or something in the grub menu? not sure
[06:09] <LjL> Exxpert: but init=/bin/sh *is* the standard way to go into "recovery mode", in other distributions
[06:09] <StucKman> stephelton: then you'll need the sensors
[06:09] <StucKman> sorry, goota go
[06:10] <stephelton> StucKman: thats what i was afraid of. thx
[06:11] <Exxpert> LjL: there is a recoverymode,, ends up with the same thing..
[06:12] <LjL`> stephelton: i really think you will need lm-sensors. what's the big deal with installing it anyway? it's a small and unobtrusive package
[06:12] <GTX> Guy's Im using an eggdrop on ubuntu server, and it says it boots up etc, but it doesnt connect however when I add -n to see what its doing it does! any ideas?
[06:13] <ConfidentiaL> Ok, I still cant get the settings for the monitor to be widescreen, I tried to run the auto detect wizard thing over and over again, with different settings each time. Any1 who knows how to fix it?
[06:13] <Drac[Server] > In every Ubuntu installation I've tried so far, Flash in Firefox, regardless of the browser version, has had problems with the text fields. Text is invisible! It is inputted, but I can't read it. Has anyone else had this problem?
[06:14] <LjL> Drac[Server] : don't know about that specific problem, but i had definitely had problems with flash. when i absolutely need to view a site that uses flash, i use firefox under wine :)
[06:14] <dooglus> I just mananged to delete all my files in the most innovative of ways.
[06:14] <iaso> what should I put in my sources.lst to upgrade to drapper. I want to test it out and do not care about the current install.
[06:14] <thenuke> Drac[Server] : is flash included in firefox for windows? I think not :o
[06:14] <LjL> dooglus: wow
[06:14] <jetscreamer> well you could spell dapper right for one
[06:14] <LjL> thenuke: no, but the windows version at least appears to work ;)
[06:14] <Drac[Server] > thenuke, I'm not looking for excuses and such. :P
[06:14] <dooglus> ironically I was testing a problem with dapper which causes it not to unmount / when it shuts down, possibly resulting in lost files
[06:15] <dooglus> and in the process, I deleted / :)
[06:15] <thegladiator> i have this problem  with ephipahny , some how the colors displayed is not correct
[06:15] <LjL> dooglus: well, it appears that you solved the problem of ubuntu possibly losing files
[06:15] <iaso> jetscreamer:I just noticed that it does not have an r right now. I always thought it had an r
[06:15] <thenuke> Drac[Server] : umm..
[06:15] <thegladiator> infact in some of the page like gmail.com , the color is black and white for mails
[06:15] <thenuke> Drac[Server] : I was just answering your question :)
[06:15] <dooglus> LjL: for me, yes, but not for anyone else.
[06:16] <thegladiator> can someone advice a solution for this?
[06:16] <LjL> dooglus: why? just write down the procedure you used on a wiki, i'm sure most people will appreciate that :)
[06:16] <Drac[Server] > thenuke, No, you weren't. You were trying to defend Ubuntu. You answered my question with a question. :P
[06:16] <iaso> so what do I have to do?
[06:16] <dooglus> LjL: I've put it in a Malone report.
[06:16] <thegladiator> i have this problem  with ephipahny , some how the colors displayed is not correct
[06:17] <LjL> dooglus: try not to put to many explicit "rm" there, though, people tend to be scared... things like `echo mr | rev` work best :)
[06:17] <amphi> Drac[Server] : I believe flash on linux is highly broken, you must whimper to macromedia
[06:18] <thegladiator> does anyone have the same problem ? with epiphany i.e the colors are not properly displayed , for e.g gmail.com ; the mails are just black and white as oposed to the pail blue color that you would expect with gmail
[06:18] <amphi> thegladiator: 'pale' ;)
[06:18] <Drac[Server] > amphi, thanks for the input. My friend has the same flash I have from the same source on the same version of the same distro, and he can read his text. I'm trying to figure out what's different.
[06:18] <ConfidentiaL> Any1 know how to get the widescreen settings right?
[06:18] <thegladiator> sorry pale :)
[06:18] <Drac[Server] > I think he might have a font/text library that I don't, or something.
[06:18] <mikex> can anyone help with network printing setup?
[06:18] <dooglus> LjL: it doesn't involve using 'rm' at all.  all you have to do is add one line to /etc/fstab
[06:18] <dooglus> LjL: can you work it out, given that much?
[06:18] <amphi> Drac[Server] : oh yeah? how curious - different video cards/drivers?
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ConfidentiaL about fixres
[06:19] <jetscreamer> dapper drake
[06:19] <LjL> dooglus: off hands, no. let me think about it though, no spoilers please ;)
[06:19] <Drac[Server] > Well, yes, amphi. I wouldn't think that would affect Flash, though. Flash isn't necessarily rendered through video acceleration.
[06:19] <Exxpert> LjL: ; i can edit the line in grub.. i now says: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-15-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=0x31b quiet splash
[06:19] <ConfidentiaL> I have used fixres several times, I already told u...
[06:19] <LjL> Exxpert: no need to
[06:19] <dooglus> LjL: ok, but you might need more information
[06:20] <LjL> Exxpert: just change it "on the fly" while booting
[06:20] <LjL> Exxpert: when the grub menu shows up, you can ask it to edit the command line
[06:20] <[FR33_B33R] > !skype
[06:20] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[06:21] <amphi> Drac[Server] : perhaps not - hard to say without the source ;) it might be worth trying the xorg vesa driver just to see if it makes any odds
[06:21] <LjL> dooglus: perhaps, feel free to give me as much information as you think is necessary to give me a chance :)
[06:21] <ConfidentiaL> !widescreen
[06:21] <ubotu> ConfidentiaL: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ConfidentiaL about xcfg
[06:21] <Exxpert> LjL: should i write: "init=/bin/sh"??
[06:21] <amphi> ConfidentiaL: is this a laptop?
[06:21] <StucKman> Exxpert: or /bin/bash
[06:21] <nalioth> ConfidentiaL: select the resolutions you want and "deselect" the ones you DON'T want
[06:22] <ConfidentiaL> yep
[06:22] <ConfidentiaL> amphi : yep
[06:22] <StucKman> Exxpert: take this in accouint: just after you get the bash prompt, the filesystem will be read-only
[06:22] <ConfidentiaL> ok, i will try...
[06:22] <ConfidentiaL> nalioth : ok, I will try...
[06:22] <amphi> ConfidentiaL: you might find precise info for your model at linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org
[06:23] <dm> Can anyone help me get my networking going after latest Dapper break ?
[06:23] <dm> still not working lol
[06:23] <djpsymon> wow, this is the first time i've used linux and this chat thing
[06:23] <LjL> Exxpert: you should add that do your standard command line. but if you see a recovery mode in the menu, try that first
[06:23] <Drac[Server] > I'd like to change and manipulate my console font. Can somebody tell me where and how to do this?
[06:24] <dm> Heres some things its saying, when i do sudo ifup eth1,  SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied
[06:24] <soundray> djpsymon, there's a whole world out there...
[06:24] <dooglus> LjL: ok, the files didn't disappear until I rebooted.
[06:24] <howcomes> Welcome to IRC where men are men, women are men, and kids are FBI Agents.
[06:24] <LjL> Exxpert: you could write down the complete command line from your grub.lst to remember it, but anyway i think grub will show it for you when you edit it
[06:25] <dooglus> LjL: the only thing I had to do to lose my files was (1) add a line to /etc/fstab and (2) reboot
[06:25] <soundray> howcomes, what about furry little creatures?
[06:25] <StucKman> dm: may be you should the commands under sudo?
[06:25] <dm> stuckman i did
[06:25] <amphi> Drac[Server] : consolechars -f <some_font>
[06:26] <amphi> Drac[Server] : font files are in /usr/share/consolefonts
[06:26] <StucKman> dm: which commands were those?
[06:26] <dm> stuckman even as sudo -i i am still denied
[06:26] <dm> stuckman sudo ifup eth1
[06:26] <Drac[Server] > amphi, they aren't if I use my own font. :P   Thanks. :)
[06:26] <StucKman> dm: strange
[06:27] <StucKman> dm: can you sudo su - and try those commands under root?
[06:27] <LjL> dooglus: i can only think of mounting / in a "bad" place, like mounting it as swap (but the kernel won't really do that if it sees it's not really swap), or mounting it in a place that gets auto-cleaned-up at boot time (but i don't know of any)
[06:27] <dm> stuckman lemme tru
[06:27] <LjL> dooglus: perhaps /tmp?
[06:27] <dooglus> LjL: that's it.
[06:27] <LjL> dooglus: oh :) cool
[06:27] <dooglus> LjL: sudo bash -c "echo / /tmp/root none bind 0 0 >> /etc/fstab"
[06:28] <dm> stuckman su dm ifdown eth1 returns failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstates permission denied
[06:28] <LjL> dooglus: you know what, i'd almost call that a bug
[06:28] <dooglus> LjL: /tmp gets cleaned up at boot *after* / gets bound into /tmp/root
[06:28] <dooglus> LjL: I was going to report it as such
[06:28] <nalioth> StucKman: don't do that  please you'll break ubuntu
[06:28] <LjL> dooglus: yeah, i think you should. the init scripts should triple-check before *ever* using the rm command imho
[06:28] <ucenik> hello
[06:29] <dm> nalioth whaT?
[06:29] <nalioth> StucKman: sudo su is redundant and dangerous (it breaks some functionality)
[06:29] <amphi> Drac[Server] : ;)
[06:29] <Drac[Server] > amphi, I can't use True Type Font files?
[06:29] <dooglus> LjL: the cleanup script is careful to do a "find . -xdev" to make sure it doesn't clean up other filesystems
[06:29] <nalioth> StucKman: in ubuntu we use sudo -i
[06:29] <amphi> Drac[Server] : not in console, AFAIK
[06:29] <dooglus> LjL: but unfortunately for me, / is one big filesystem
[06:29] <LjL> dooglus: perhaps ubuntu could put a "standard" file into /tmp (like, "/tmp/.temp-dir") to certify that it's indeed the /tmp directory, before removing files from it
[06:29] <ucenik> can anybody explain me in sort of details how to set up my internet connection on ubuntu 5.04
[06:29] <Drac[Server] > amphi, drat. Any way I can convert one? :P
[06:29] <LjL> dooglus: i guess it is for most people
[06:29] <dooglus> LjL: /tmp really was /tmp, but it contained /tmp/root which was a bind back to /
[06:29] <dm> nalioth cna you help me get my borked networking going ?
[06:30] <nalioth> dm: we'll need more info than that
[06:30] <LjL> dooglus: so i guess they'd need to change that "-xdev" option into something that checks for *mountpoint* boundaries, not just filesystem boundaries
[06:30] <Drac[Server] > amphi, I just found cfe. I'll give that a try.
[06:30] <StucKman> nalioth: ack
[06:31] <ucenik> anybody?
[06:31] <LjL> dooglus: don't see such an option in "find", but maybe the script could simply run "mount" and check that nothing is mounted under /tmp
[06:31] <dooglus> LjL: luckily /bin was one of the first places to be tidied, so /bin/rm disappeared pretty quickly, and I don't think I lost anything too important.
[06:31] <amphi> Drac[Server] : cool, I wasn't aware of that
[06:31] <dm> nalioth dapper update killed all forms of wireless, now i boot up linux has no netowrk , try to configure and activate using network settings sits there for 2 minutes and says its active ( disconnected in network-status ) and will not allow me to connect to the internet. although my router is working and other computers are on the net ( this one )
[06:31] <dm> nalioth i should say all forms of networking
[06:32] <ucenik> hello
[06:32] <dm> nalioth using wifi radar i am able to view wireless signals in the area so its not my network card ( checked in windows too )
[06:32] <nalioth> dm: join #ubuntu+1
[06:32] <LjL> dooglus: ever tried a versioning file system? won't save you from something like that, but it would save you from the accidentally thrown "rm"... i was thinking of using one for my home directory
[06:33] <dooglus> LjL: I'm just glad it didn't do an 'rm -r' - that would have been a lot more damaging.
[06:33] <nalioth> dapper drake issues should be discussed in #ubuntu+1
[06:33] <ucenik> can anybody explain me how to set up my internet connection on ubuntu 5.04
[06:33] <dooglus> LjL: I've used Rational's MVFS a lot - multi-version filesystem
[06:33] <dooglus> LjL: but I don't know of any free versions
[06:33] <LjL> dooglus: (i mean, i don't know how often you accidentally throw "rm"'s, but i did type "rm" instead of "mv" more than once... now i've got rm aliased to "rm -i" ;)
[06:33] <sks> Hi, Where must the proxy details be specified so that amarok could acess the internet ? I'm talking about an Ubuntu system.
[06:34] <dooglus> LjL: first thing I do when I get a new account is add "alias rm='rm -i'; alias mv='mv -i'; alias cp='cp -i'" to the .bashrc
[06:34] <babyboy> hi evrybody
[06:34] <LjL> dooglus: no, there is one free versioning pseudo-filesystem that works on top of FUSE. there is also a versioning version (erm) of ext3, called ext3cow
[06:34] <babyboy> got a qick question
[06:34] <ucenik> so do i but no one replies...
[06:34] <babyboy> lol
[06:34] <LjL> dooglus: that's a good idea, but not something i thought about until i got burned
[06:34] <IdleOne> ask your questions
[06:35] <dooglus> LjL: I use GNU Emacs for editing, and have it set to keep old versions of every edit I make in a subdirectory of the file's directory called Backup
[06:35] <ucenik> can anybody explain me how to set up my internet connection on ubuntu 5.04
[06:35] <StucKman> ucenik: how are you connected to the inet?
[06:35] <dooglus> LjL: so if I look in ~/Backup I see files like .bashrc.~107~ and .bashrc.~108~
[06:35] <LjL> dooglus: well, that's basically DIY versioning... if you do that, i think you really should give that filesystem a try
[06:35] <ucenik> stuckman : don't understand.
[06:35] <LjL> dooglus: http://wayback.sourceforge.net/    http://www.ext3cow.com/
[06:36] <StucKman> ucenik: modem, lan, dsl or similar...?
[06:36] <ucenik> dsl
[06:36] <ucenik> adsl
[06:36] <dooglus> LjL: OK, I'll look into it as soon as I get my dapper working again.
[06:36] <LjL> dooglus: (ext3cow is only for 2.4 kernels, and i wouldn't trust it anyway, but wayback is user-level, so it doesn't touch the actual filesystem structures)
[06:36] <StucKman> ucenik: pppoe?
[06:36] <ucenik> yes
[06:36] <dooglus> LjL: how would you suggest I do it, by the way?  I don't want to reinstall from a Flight4 CD, 'cos that will wipe /home (right?)
[06:36] <StucKman> ucenik: sudo aptitude install pppoe-config
[06:36] <babyboy> i cant get my legitec quickcam messenger to work on ubuntu..... i found this http://home.mag.cx/messenger/
[06:36] <babyboy> still no luck
[06:36] <mynameisdeleted> what repository mirrors are there for when the main apt-get mirror is down?
[06:37] <ucenik> stuckman: again, I don't understand
[06:37] <LjL> dooglus: no, i don't think it will wipe home, if you don't tell it to format
[06:37] <StucKman> ucenik: ok, do you use synaptics?
[06:37] <mynameisdeleted> yay
[06:37] <mynameisdeleted> its up again
[06:37] <ucenik> ?'
[06:37] <LjL> dooglus: i don't think it will wipe *anything* actually (except for overwriting things with new files) unless you tell it to -- which is bad, so you should remove everything except /home before re-installing
[06:37] <ucenik> ????
[06:37] <IdleOne> ucenick your new to linux right?
[06:37] <ucenik> how could you tell....
[06:37] <StucKman> ucenik: how do you install software in your ubuntu?
[06:38] <LjL> dooglus: i've never tried actually leaving /home alone when re-installing. but i *have* tried moving /home/myuser to /tempuser, and that worked well
[06:38] <IdleOne> ucenik:  nothing to be ashamed about so are alot of ppl here
[06:38] <ucenik> I don't. I only installed jt
[06:38] <ucenik> from one cd
[06:38] <ucenik> didn
[06:38] <vader> ok, had to be sure the wireless was working right
[06:38] <StucKman> ucenik: ok, is your desktop `up and running'?
[06:38] <babyboy> can anyone tell me how to install my logitec quickcam messenger webcam on ubuntu?
[06:38] <LjL> dooglus: though perhaps you shouldn't really call it "tempuser", or anything resembling "tmp" ;P
[06:39] <LjL> babyboy: don't have that specific webcam, but my one gets recognized as a logitech quickcam express (even though it isn't, i suppose it's a rebrand) and works out of the box
[06:40] <babyboy> so do you think mine will also work as that?
[06:40] <LjL> babyboy: it's won't do any harm to try, for sure
[06:40] <babyboy> do you know how i go about installing the driver for hat then please LjL
[06:40] <LjL> babyboy: you could use the "camstream" or "camorama" (or whatever, "apt-cache search webcam") to test it
[06:41] <babyboy> got camorama
[06:41] <LjL> babyboy: well no, i don't, since as i said mine worked without doing anything special...
[06:41] <babyboy> damn, i guess im just unlucky, lol
[06:41] <Silivrenion> anyone know where to get the floppy boot iso for ubuntu?
[06:41] <LjL> Silivrenion: i'm not sure there is one... (and it wouldn't be an "iso" anyway ;)
[06:42] <babyboy> could not connect to video device dev/video0 :S lol :(
[06:42] <well_> can someone tell me where the files are in witch the network configuration is saved?? pls
[06:43] <LjL> Silivrenion: you could look at this http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[06:43] <well_> s/witch/which
[06:43] <syllogism> ok - if I copy a bunch of *.deb packages from one computer to another - how can I get them to be recognized by apt?
[06:43] <LjL> Silivrenion: this should allow booting your bootable cd from a boot floppy --- that is if your computer can't boot from cds
[06:44] <LjL> well_: well, /etc/network is one place
[06:44] <syllogism> I can't download them all again - this is a dial-up connection
[06:44] <LjL> syllogism: you don't, not easily anyway
[06:44] <LjL> syllogism: well...
[06:44] <syllogism> LjL, there has got to be a way to do this. .
[06:44] <syllogism> that would be simply stupid if I can't add these files somehow
[06:44] <LjL> syllogism: i can only think of setting up a local mirror
[06:44] <LjL> syllogism: well you can certainly install them one by one
[06:45] <LjL> syllogism: perhaps i would just write a script to do that, i guess it would be easier than setting up a mirror
[06:45] <well_> thx LjL
[06:45] <syllogism> LjL, would dpkg manage the dependencies?
[06:45] <LjL> syllogism: try writing a script like this, "for Package in /directory/containing/packages/*; do dpkg -i "$Package"; done"
[06:46] <LjL> syllogism: no, it wouldn't. indeed, i was just going to tell you that this script should be run *many times*, until all the dependencies have been solved ;)
[06:46] <LjL> syllogism: not the cleanest method i could come up with, i guess, but i think it will work
[06:46] <ucenik> stuckman: sorry, I had to do something. i installed ubuntu if that's what yuo meaN , but at the moment I am at friends.
[06:46] <syllogism> LjL, sounds horrible. . .   how hard would it be to set up a local mirror?
[06:46] <syllogism> LjL, I'll google it - nevermind
[06:46] <syllogism> thanks for the help
[06:47] <LjL> syllogism: yeah, you should google it, i don't really know. have a look at the "apt-move" package though
[06:47] <syllogism> roger that
[06:48] <LjL> syllogism: "apt-proxy" too, though that's intended as - you guess - a proxy. but perhaps you could fool it into accepting the packages you already have =)
[06:48] <StucKman> ucenik: ok, so, boot on your desktop, select System -> Admin -> something synaptics. that's the package manager. search for pppoe-config and install it. then open a terminal, and run sudo pppoe-config. I guess that's all
[06:48] <RichART1> where's MadPilot
[06:49] <RichART1> i did wat u said, now i
[06:49] <LjL> syllogism: but really, i guess apt-move will do most of the work - that is create the directory hierarchy for a mirror. at that point, you can just install an HTTP or FTP server and use it in your sources.list
[06:49] <syllogism> LjL, I can probably just set up a local mirror from my laptop. . I've got an ftp server setup already. . shouldn't be too bad
[06:49] <RichART1> i have no windows os & the ubuntu still wont load
[06:49] <rugova_1> if i install server type of ubuntu how to i enable bootsplash ??
[06:49] <RichART1> so i'm in the procy of dLing another xp pro w/ sp2
[06:50] <syllogism> RichART1, probably not the wisest thing. . telling us that
[06:50] <RichART1> why?
[06:50] <RichART1> oh yeah.....lol
[06:50] <RichART1> i c ur pt.
[06:51] <RichART1> oh well, there's no shame in my game
[06:51] <Rambo3> did you watch 60 minites about FBI working on IRC?
[06:51] <ucenik> stuckman: so that's it? and where from does it install that package?
[06:51] <StucKman> RichART1: no solu either. you already sold it to the wrong guy :-P
[06:51] <StucKman> ucenik: with a little of luck, from the cd
[06:52] <StucKman> soul*
[06:52] <RichART1> the devil?
[06:52] <RichART1> lmao
[06:52] <StucKman> RichART1: you said it, not me :)
[06:52] <ucenik> okay
[06:53] <ucenik> and can somebody, perhpas you stuckman, tell me how actually secure is surfing on ubuntu
[06:53] <kc1933> hi
[06:53] <RichART1> right u R
[06:53] <cj> can someone tell me where to find fglrxconfig ?
[06:53] <hcatlin> Is anyone else having repository issues today?
[06:53] <Rambo3> depends most on users IQ
[06:54] <hcatlin> security.ubuntu.org seems to be flipping a little.
[06:54] <nalioth> hcatlin: yes, they are wonky atm
[06:54] <hcatlin> .com i mean
[06:54] <Rambo3> security repos aint working for me
[06:54] <LjL> Rambo3: perhaps they've been hacked
[06:54] <hcatlin> Any Ruby package maintainers in here?
[06:54] <dooglus> LjL: to be on the safe side, I'm installing a fresh dapper into a subdirectory of /mnt/dapper - so the old one will still be around, what's left of it.
[06:54] <Bisschop> I'm pretty new to ubunbtu and have a few questions, is there somebody prepared to help me out
[06:55] <Bisschop> ?
[06:55] <ucenik> and can somebody, perhpas you stuckman, tell me how actually secure is surfing on ubuntu
[06:55] <jimcooncat> ucenik, define secure
[06:55] <Rambo3> i would go for bad routing from my isp. but it could be that too
[06:55] <StucKman> ucenik: well... most virus won't affect you. per default it has no firewall, but not much servers running either. and you can fall into phishing with any browser. so I guess that, except for most virus and troyans, you're as secure as in any other platform. *but*, most security problems come from virus and trojans.
[06:55] <LjL> dooglus: a subdirectory of a mount? you really don't learn, do you...? :-)
[06:55] <dooglus> LjL: um...
[06:56] <StucKman> ucenik: so I guess the short answer is: safer than *that* other platform, as safe as any *nix like
[06:56] <ucenik> well, do I need some sort of other protection against internet attacks? do I need firewall? is there some sort of antivirus for it?
[06:56] <dooglus> it seems the safest option, if I don't want to go down the rediculous road of actually making backups...
[06:56] <jimcooncat> many security problems come not from your computing environment, but from yourself and the guy on the other end
[06:56] <LjL> ucenik: not unless you install servers, not practically...
[06:56] <StucKman> Bisschop: you just make your questions
[06:56] <sagarp> i accidentally screwed up my system and now it wont detect my serial ata drive...cfdisk /dev/sda says "cannot find drive" or something...so i booted up with a suse live cd i found, and tried cfdisk /dev/sda and it gives the same error...where else can my serial ata drive be??
[06:56] <LjL> ucenik: but you can install firestarter, they say it's a good firewall
[06:56] <Rambo3> ucenik you can get all that info from wiki and forums
[06:56] <dooglus> ucenik: there's not a lot in the way of protection for linux.  everyone seems to think it's secure :)
[06:56] <Bisschop> I installed a few packages but when i ran nmap I saw I had e few ports open from the packages I installed, how could i close them?
[06:56] <jimcooncat> ucenik, no antivirus needed, but there's one available if you're fowarding email or docs to Windows users
[06:57] <LjL> ucenik: as for an antivirus, no, you really don't need one for all practical purposes. i do suggest running rkhunter and chkrootkit once in a while, though
[06:57] <cj> Bisschop: learn iptables
[06:57] <LjL> ucenik: but the most important suggestion i can give you is probably to use strong passwords ;)
[06:57] <StucKman> ucenik: as I said, most virus won't affect you. and when I say most, I'm talking abount 99.999 and some more 9's % of them
[06:57] <cj> ucenik: or not password + rsa keys
[06:57] <cj> er, no password
[06:57] <StucKman> ucenik: about firewalls... well, having one won't hurt you.
[06:57] <KRA> Hi, ubuntu noob here, I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time (the Dapper Drake) And somehow I made a mistake and ended up with edubuntu rather than ubuntu, are there any mayor differences, I'm thinking like what packages are awailable, what I am allowed to do etc... or is it the same system with some extra packages and other icons/wallpaper etc..
[06:57] <zielony> What do you think aobut ati cards and Linux ? Can I buy Radeon without any problems in future ?
[06:58] <ucenik> what do you suggest? that firestarter or what?
[06:58] <cj> password protect your rsa key, and don't use passwords other than to access your rsa keys :)
[06:58] <ahoora> .
[06:58] <LjL> KRA: aha, yeah, there are differences :) but just in the way of what packages are installed. you can changed that
[06:58] <cj> but that's not really feasible unless you take the time to learn how to use TLS
[06:58] <LjL> KRA: just install the "ubuntu-desktop" package and you'll have the full ubuntu, *plus* what's included in edubuntu and not in ubuntu
[06:58] <Rambo3> zielony, having both ati and nvidia since red hat 7.1 , i would consider buying nvidia
[06:59] <LjL> KRA: if you want to remove the edubuntu-specific parts, well, i guess you need a package listing from someone with a fresh ubuntu install...
[06:59] <KRA> thanks LjL
[06:59] <ucenik> and how old is version 5.04?
[06:59] <cj> can someone tell me where to find fglrxconfig ?
[06:59] <ogra> KRA, if you choose the default install of edubuntu, it has installed some server bits for a classroom server that are not in ubuntu
[06:59] <dooglus> KRA: "debfoster" is a good way of removing the things which are only installed because of edubuntu
[06:59] <LjL> ucenik: 10 months old or so. i would use 5.10 (breezy) right now
[07:00] <dooglus> KRA: install ubuntu-desktop first, then use debfoster to set rid of edubuntu and any packages which are only installed because of it
[07:00] <Rambo3> if i install server type of ubuntu how do i enable bootsplash after install??
[07:00] <amphi> zielony: ati cards old enough to have 3d accel xorg drivers are ok, but if you have to use proprietary drivers, ati cards are a bit of a nightmare
[07:00] <LjL> dooglus: perhaps there is the output of "dpkg --get-selections" from a fresh ubuntu somewhere on the web... and if there is not, i think there should be
[07:00] <ucenik> LjL: rkhunter and chkrootkit? what would that be?
[07:01] <LjL> ucenik: they're programs that check for "rookits", which are the thing closest to virus on linux in a practical sense
[07:01] <ogra> KRA, if you take the path dooglus describes, you should do that as well for edubuntu-server ;)
[07:01] <LjL> ucenik: a rootkit is a program that's used by hackers to hide their presence after they've gotten into your box
[07:01] <LjL> ucenik: and do not believe hackers won't care about your box. they will
[07:01] <zielony> So there will be problems with drivers and acceleration with 9500 pro ?
[07:02] <dooglus> LjL: I think I will soon be in the perfect position to help with the package list...  since installing a fresh ubuntu dapper is exactly what I'm doing...
[07:02] <ucenik> LjL: where can I find those things, and firestarter?
[07:02] <robertj> whee my 18 day long rsnapshot is done!
[07:02] <LjL> ucenik: "apt-cache search <keywords>" will let you search for packages - "apt-cache show <package>" will give you information about a package - "sudo aptitude install <package>" will install it
[07:02] <KRA> Ok, since I'm new to ubuntu I don't really know how to install packages, I used debian a few years back, so I assume it's a apt-get thingy, but I just installed this system and I don't even know the root password
[07:03] <LjL> ucenik: however, some thousands of packages won't be available to you until you enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. the bot will tell you how
[07:03] <LjL> !tell kra about root
[07:03] <dooglus> KRA: the root account is locked.  use "sudo apt-get install <package>" to install packages
[07:03] <pilgrim> I added some fonts to my /usr/shared/fonts/ directory. How do I rebuild the font cache?
[07:04] <StucKman> ucenik: well, 5.04 it's from april 2005. there was another release october 2005 and another will come in april 2006
[07:06] <JoKo> Hi... I want to install Ubuntu in a computer with no internet access. Could anyone show me any guides on installing and updating this PC?
[07:06] <Seveas> JoKo, you update with the CD of a new version 
[07:07] <JoKo>  ???
[07:07] <LjL> JoKo: have you no way of connecting that computer to a network (the internet if possible, your local network otherwise)? it'll be much easier i think
[07:07] <gopi> hello, i am net to Ubuntu !
[07:07] <JoKo> LjL, no... :(
[07:07] <gopi> new*
[07:07] <CaNsA> should i partition the hd using LVM ?
[07:07] <gopi> just now i installed Ubuntu and logged into X-Chat
[07:08] <JoKo> CaNsA, it depends... if you want later to add space to your Linux installation, LVM becomes very handy
[07:08] <LjL> JoKo: well, installing ubuntu will be easy enough. updating it, or installing new programs, won't be as easy
[07:08] <CaNsA> the hd will be used as the system drive
[07:09] <JoKo> So there is no way... Somewhere I've seen updating the repository using CDs
[07:10] <KRA> apt-get doesn't findt the debfoster package, does one have to compile it ?
[07:10] <sagarp> hmm and grub doesnt boot normally, it skips everything and automatically goes to the "recovery mode"...i checked menu.lst and it's normal, i dont see why grub wont show the menu
[07:10] <LjL> JoKo: yeah, you can create an updated CD from another computer
[07:10] <JoKo> LjL, how to do so?
[07:10] <LjL> JoKo: won't be the easiest thing on earth
[07:10] <ruby123> how to check which ubuntu version i am using?
[07:11] <gopi> I am going to download bt driver (TV tuner card) .... my doubt is should i need to download from Ubunto OS or can i download from Win XP also ?
[07:12] <LjL> JoKo: well, it boils down to creating a partial mirror of Ubuntu's repositories on a CD. if it were not "partial", i think you could just copy the repository into a CD verbatim
[07:12] <LjL> JoKo: but of course a CD won't hold the whole repository ;) so i think you should copy all the directories from the rep as they are, except for the "pool" directory -- there you should manually choose which packages you want
[07:12] <LjL> JoKo: but... dependency hell
[07:13] <brian_> may I ask a question please?
[07:13] <ogs> hey. What kernelversion does Drapper Drake come with?
[07:13] <LjL> JoKo: you don't at least have *another* computer with ubuntu?
[07:13] <LjL> brian_: don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[07:14] <JoKo> LjL, I have a notebook with Ubuntu and net access...
[07:14] <irvin> ogs: now i have 2.6.15-15
[07:14] <LjL> JoKo: cool, that will make it a bit easier i think...
[07:14] <brian_> i installed winxp on this box first, then installed ubuntu.... now I get a STOP 0x00000024 error when  I boot windows, windows worked fine before i installed ubuntu....
[07:14] <brian_> is there a way I can fix the error
[07:15] <JoKo> brian_, have you change anything in hardware?
[07:15] <JoKo> changed *
[07:15] <brian_> it says to run chkdsk but I cant.... wont let me... is there a way within linux to run a chkdsk /f /r on my win32 partition
[07:15] <brian_> JoKo, no
[07:15] <LjL> JoKo: try "apt-cache show apt-proxy". if you use that program to download updates for your laptop, then you'll probably be able to simply burn the apt-proxy directory on a cd
[07:17] <LjL> JoKo: "apt-move" might be useful too, it builds a mirror automatically from raw .deb files... but i think in your case apt-proxy could probably be a better choice
[07:18] <malverian[work] > Hey guys.. is there a gstreamer plugin set for Dapper Drake that has MAD/MP3 support?
[07:18] <lesshaste>  can anyone get make menuconfig/xconfig to work for 2.6.16-rc4-mm1? It completely fails for me
[07:19] <brian_> I want to continue to use ubuntu... and I really like linux.. but I must have my win32 installed and working because I have win32 a-specific aps... help!
[07:19] <ogs> Im on the verge of installing linux for the very first time, and my choice of distro fell on Ubuntu.... however, I d/l drake instead of badger...is there any reason i should pick badger over drake?
[07:19] <LjL> JoKo: from apt-proxy's features list: "builds up a partial mirror directory automatically, with exactly the same directory structure and filenames as the original mirror."  --- seems like what you need
[07:19] <ogs> keep in mind im a total n00b :)
[07:20] <RichART1> Kamion: but we would like bug reports about whatever is breaking, if you can
[07:20] <RichART1> 1316.08 RichART1: i'll do just that bro
[07:20] <RichART1> Kamion: but we would like bug reports about whatever is breaking, if you can
[07:20] <RichART1> 1316.08 RichART1: i'll do just that bro
[07:20] <RichART1> 1317.01 RichART1: well, i burn the .iso TWICE=once, 2 a scratched up cd-rw; & 2ndly to a new cd-r; NEITHER would install the other pkgs
[07:20] <RichART1> Kamion: but we would like bug reports about whatever is breaking, if you can
[07:20] <RichART1> 1317.19 RichART1: i mean, the base installed ok, but the rest of the pkgs......no
[07:20] <RichART1> 1316.08 RichART1: i'll do just that bro
[07:20] <brian_> ogs, Newer versiosn sometimes have better suypport all around...
[07:20] <irvin> ogs: breezy is stable, dapper is still under development
[07:20] <jenni> hello ubuntu peeps - new girl here needs help 'mount' ing a usb drive
[07:20] <JoKo> LjL, ok thanks
[07:20] <RichART1> 1318.27 RichART1: and whilst booting (w/out the cd~from GRUB) the *name recognition or sth like dat FAILED
[07:20] <RichART1> 1317.01 RichART1: well, i burn the .iso TWICE=once, 2 a scratched up cd-rw; & 2ndly to a new cd-r; NEITHER would install the other pkgs
[07:20] <RichART1> 1317.19 RichART1: i mean, the base installed ok, but the rest of the pkgs......no
[07:20] <RichART1> 1319.07 RichART1: that's pretty all the reports i have
[07:20] <ruby123> how to check which ubuntu version i am using?
[07:20] <LjL> JoKo: note that you can use "apt-get --download-only install blah" to import packages into apt-proxy that you do *not* want installed on your net-connected laptop
[07:20] <RichART1> 1318.27 RichART1: and whilst booting (w/out the cd~from GRUB) the *name recognition or sth like dat FAILED
[07:20] <LjL> RichART1: don't paste in the channel please
[07:20] <RichART1> sorry bout that
[07:20] <RichART1> 1317.01 RichART1: well, i burn the .iso TWICE=once, 2 a scratched up cd-rw; & 2ndly to a new cd-r; NEITHER would install the other pkgs
[07:20] <RichART1> 1317.19 RichART1: i mean, the base installed ok, but the rest of the pkgs......no
[07:20] <ruby123> there's no ubuntu --version command
[07:20] <RichART1> 1319.07 RichART1: that's pretty all the reports i have
[07:20] <RichART1> sorry again
[07:20] <RichART1> 1318.27 RichART1: and whilst booting (w/out the cd~from GRUB) the *name recognition or sth like dat FAILED
[07:20] <RichART1> 1319.07 RichART1: that's pretty all the reports i have
[07:21] <RichART1> ::LjL:: where can i paste then? pm?
[07:21] <irvin> RichART1: fix y'er keyboard man ;)
[07:21] <LjL> RichART1: no, look at the channel topic
[07:21] <lesshaste>  can anyone get make menuconfig/xconfig to work for 2.6.16-rc4-mm1? It completely fails for me
[07:21] <RichART1> k
[07:21] <brian_> post on a website
[07:21] <JoKo> LjL, thanks for the tip... Very useful indeed
[07:21] <irvin> !tell RichART1 about pastebin
[07:21] <RichART1> got it
[07:21] <ruby123> hola amigos... how to check ubuntu version i am use?
[07:21] <RichART1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:21] <dieguito> lesshaste: fails how?
[07:21] <LjL> ruby123: "cat /etc/issue"
[07:22] <brian_> can anyone help me with my problem?
[07:22] <ruby123> LjL: thank
[07:22] <lesshaste> dieguito: drivers/scsi/Kconfig:245: can't open file "drivers/scsi/sas/Kconfig"
[07:22] <irvin> ruby123: uname -a
[07:22] <jenni> can anyone help me mount my external usb drive?
[07:22] <LjL> irvin: that will tell him about his *kernel* version, not his *ubuntu* version
[07:22] <dieguito> lesshaste: check that drivers/scsi/sas/ exists
[07:22] <irvin> LjL: oops! my bad
[07:22] <jenni> I looked at the wiki and have a few questions about the /etc/fstab
[07:23] <lesshaste> dieguito: I have given up on it.. I think it is broken.. thx though
[07:24] <dieguito> lesshaste: try a vanilla kernel if you want to compile anyway
[07:24] <lesshaste> dieguito: I was asked to try mm for a bug report
[07:24] <dieguito> oh
[07:24] <dieguito> ok
[07:24] <jenni> if I add a mount command to /etc/fstab and don't always have the drive plugged in, will it mess up if it is in there?
[07:25] <jenni> I ran fdisk -l and I can see the drive on /dev/sda1 and the filesystem is vfat
[07:25] <beerockxs> I'm having a problem with the opensource radeon driver.
[07:25] <beerockxs> when I select it in my xorg.conf, X does not start
[07:25] <beerockxs> do i need to install a kernel module manually or sth like that?
[07:26] <beerockxs> i was using the proprietary driver earlier
[07:27] <gopi> I am having ATI Radeon 9700 Pro.... is there drivers for it for Ubuntu ??
[07:27] <beerockxs> gopi: the drivers from ati work
[07:27] <gopi> If so from where can I get it ?
[07:27] <bunniears> HI guys. im having issues installing onscreen keyboard :S
[07:27] <beerockxs> gopi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:28] <gopi> thanks a lot beerockxs !
[07:28] <brian_> ok everyone I think I found a solution
[07:28] <brian_> BUT how do I access the NTFS partition here in linux?
[07:28] <brian_> all i need to do is delete one file and copy a backup from another location
[07:28] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[07:29] <StucKman> brian_: you won't get write access to ntfs partitions
[07:29] <linuxboyfriend> I want to put a script in system startup, how can I do that?
[07:29] <ruby123> hm.. i cannot: apt-get install kdevelop
[07:29] <brian_> StucKman, what can i do then
[07:29] <StucKman> linuxboyfriend: put it in /etc/init.d/ and then use update-rc.d
[07:29] <brian_> ntfs.sys file is corrupt after installing ubuntu i have a backup.....
[07:30] <linuxboyfriend> StucKman: hmm, lemme check
[07:30] <StucKman> brian_: I guess you're stuck? I don't know your problem...
[07:30] <beerockxs> brian_, use a windows system rescue disc thingy?
[07:30] <brian_> recovery doesnt work...
[07:30] <xtreon> anyone knows a commandline package installer? exept apt?
[07:30] <brian_> StucKman, here is the problem
[07:30] <StucKman> ruby123: have you universe enabled?
[07:30] <_jason> brian_: I think the windows install disk lets you do it, but you can try http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/, I've heard good things but have never used it
[07:30] <ruby123> StucKman: checking...
[07:31] <StucKman> xtreon: apt-get or aptitude
[07:31] <gopi> beerockxs: So those ATI drivers are automatically installed while installing Ubuntu ?
[07:31] <brian_> I installed winxp pro, all is fine, no hardware changes, and then i install ubuntu, badger, and after installation... reboot... i get STOP 0x00000024 and cant get into anything recovery, nothing...
[07:31] <KurtKraut> I found a bug in Dapper Flight 4. I was looking over launchpad and I didn't fing a proper place to report that. Anyone could give me a link ?
[07:31] <linuxboyfriend> StucKman: will provide some more detal,  update-rc.d is asking for options to use and not doing the job!
[07:31] <StucKman> brian_: interesting
[07:31] <ruby123> StucKman: yea universe es enabled
[07:32] <StucKman> ruby123: kdevelop3?
[07:32] <pilgrim> I added some fonts to my /usr/shared/fonts/ directory. How do I rebuild the font cache?
[07:32] <beerockxs> gopi: i don't know, but following the HOWTO will install them
[07:32] <brian_> I would love to be a guinea pig for the ubuntu dev's...
[07:32] <gopi> ok thanks
[07:32] <StucKman> brian_: I don't know much XP
[07:32] <ruby123> StucKman: thank!
[07:32] <brian_> if I can send a hardware profile to someone
[07:32] <brian_> this has to be a bug in the way ubuntu installed itself, some how...
[07:32] <linuxboyfriend> StucKman: I try to find local.start but can not find it!
[07:32] <brian_> i mean, i got 5 boxes in this room...
[07:32] <brian_> none of them have ubuntu
[07:32] <cyblivious> does someone know where akregator files are stored?
[07:32] <oklinux> how do I make my icon small ?
[07:33] <brian_> erxcept this oine...
[07:33] <_jason> brian_: what option did you choose when installing?  shrink ntfs?
[07:33] <LjL> cyblivious: .kde/share/apps/akgregator
[07:33] <robotgeek> cyblivious: .kde/share/apps/akregator
[07:33] <brian_> did i?
[07:33] <brian_> i just went default whole way
[07:33] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone else tell me, how can i put a script in system startup?
[07:33] <KurtKraut> How can I report a bug in Dapper Flight 4 ?
[07:33] <cyblivious> thanks guys
[07:33] <StucKman> brian_: it's more like XP didn't liked that ubuntu overwrited teh MBR or something like that
[07:34] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: man update-rc.d
[07:34] <brian_> StucKman, ah
[07:34] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: not as easy at editing autoexec.bat, mind you
[07:34] <StucKman> linuxboyfriend: that's distro-specific.
[07:34] <_jason> brian_: did ubuntu have free space on the drive to create new partitions before you installed/
[07:34] <irvin> KurtKraut: http://www.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[07:34] <brian_> yes
[07:34] <brian_> 100gb drive with base xp install
[07:34] <brian_> so i guess it had 70 gigs available
[07:35] <brian_> and i know more then that
[07:35] <robotgeek> linuxboyfriend: if you want to run at gnome, startup, it si much easier
[07:35] <_jason> brian_: I mean partition-wise
[07:35] <brian_> yes it did
[07:35] <_jason> brian_: strange, the installer shouldn't touch your windows partition if you have unpartitioned space for it
[07:36] <brian_> jason, i think i am wrong and you are right, it DID resize my parition
[07:36] <brian_> er partition
[07:36] <brian_> the NTFS
[07:37] <ruby123> StucKman: ubuntu security pkgs repo is no responding :-(
[07:37] <brian_> i wanted ubuntu to have 20 gigs of free space and for win32 to have the rest
[07:37] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: basically you need to create a script in /etc/init.d/, which can take a "start", "stop" or "restart" argument, and then use update.rc-d to register that script
[07:37] <vlauzums> hi, what's a good torrent application for ubuntu?
[07:37] <cyblivious> well, checked the akregator dir hoping there will be a way to customize the layout
[07:37] <spikebike> azureus
[07:37] <brian_> i will brb everyone going to try something...
[07:37] <cyblivious> sadly found nothing
[07:37] <LjL> is *there* some way that nobody ever mentions to make APT ignore the fact that some installed package has missing dependencies? i know what i'm doing, really .)
[07:38] <StucKman> ruby123: not my fault :-|
[07:38] <italy> HEY GUYS
[07:38] <ruby123> StucKman: i know. :-(
[07:38] <LjL> vlauzums: there should be one installed by default i think
[07:38] <StucKman> vlauzums: azureus, but eats *lots* of ram. >300MiB here, with just 10 torrents
[07:38] <ruby123> argh! i really want kdevelop!!
[07:39] <LjL> StucKman: well, azureus isn't really for ubuntu anyway
[07:39] <green_earz> vlauzums: check out bittornado-gui
[07:39] <LjL> StucKman: at least it's not in the repos
[07:39] <StucKman> LjL: isn't? I was sure...
[07:39] <ohgood> vlauzums: do you want cli or gui ?
[07:39] <spikebike> stuckman resident or allocated?
[07:39] <StucKman> then... what? bittornado? is there ktorrent?
[07:39] <vlauzums> ohgood: gui
[07:39] <ohgood> ok, nevermind :)
[07:39] <LjL> StucKman: it isn't. though perhaps they have ubuntu packages on their site, dunno, but it's definitely not in the standard reps
[07:40] <vlauzums> thanks for the suggestions everyone
[07:40] <robotgeek> ruby123: kdevelop3
[07:40] <StucKman> spikebike: allocated, but still a lot of memory (yes, I said ram before)
[07:40] <LjL> ktorrent would be nice and fast, except it keeps crashing on me
[07:40] <LjL> (hanging actually)
[07:40] <green_earz> vlauzums: aptitude search bittornado-gui   to see if its on your apt-get mirror
[07:40] <spikebike> allocated memory is free, I would compare using resident
[07:40] <ruby123> robotgeek: argh. it keeps saying "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/m4/m4_1.4.3-1_i386.deb  Size mismatch"
[07:40] <Malachi> Is it just me, or is the Linux version of Nvu a little buggy?
[07:41] <LjL> ruby123: try another mirror perhaps
[07:41] <ruby123> LjL: how do that?
[07:41] <KurtKraut> irvin: can you say me what is the name of this package: http://www.kurtkraut.net/ubuntu/flight4/ (pictures) - I want to report that.
[07:41] <shikamaru85> anyone know how i use the gdm themes downloaded from gdm-look
[07:41] <LjL> ruby123: change "us." into something else in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <chromebuntu> i have loads of problems with the official mirrors
[07:41] <KurtKraut> irvin: So I need the name of the package where this code is.
[07:41] <StucKman> spikebike: well, actually is what top reports as VSIZE, which if not in real RAM, it's in swap
[07:41] <bunniears> n/m figured it my self :/
[07:41] <shikamaru85> and the plashcreens
[07:41] <spikebike> which seems insane
[07:41] <LjL> ruby123: like "ca.", or "it.", "fr.", whatever nation
[07:41] <spikebike> oops
[07:41] <ruby123> LjL: thank
[07:41] <chromebuntu> LjL: most of the *.archive.ubuntu.com servers all point to the same machine (at least for me)
[07:42] <shikamaru85> sorry, splashscreens
[07:42] <mAIJK> Where do I find the file there my webmin accout is?
[07:42] <spikebike> stuck right, so use RSZ or similar
[07:42] <chromebuntu> LjL: ah its different now :)
[07:42] <LjL> chromebuntu: well, the italian mirror is on an italian machine, i can assure you... also, i recall the romanian mirror is as well. don't know about the others
[07:42] <irvin> KurtKraut: that's a fsck
[07:43] <irvin> KurtKraut: a file system check if a drive is u/mounted 30 times
[07:43] <cyblivious> how can i set some apps to run at startup?
[07:43] <StucKman> mAIJK: open a browser, goto http://localhost:10000/ and use your user and password
[07:43] <KurtKraut> irvin: No, it is not. I've booted a LiveCD with Flight4 and in the first menu I asked it to check the integrity of the CD.
[07:44] <LjL> cyblivious: just open the apps that you want to open at startup, and then logout choosing to "save your session"
[07:44] <KurtKraut> irvin: And when a file is not okay, he prompts the error 'mismatch'. But look carefully to those pictures. The word 'mismatch' in read is scrambled with other words. Ther e is a error in the prompting.
[07:44] <cyblivious> hehe, isn't there a more 'proper' way?
[07:44] <ruby123> LjL: yaay! it workes :-)
[07:45] <ruby123> mi beautiful kdevelop :-)
[07:45] <StucKman> ruby123: enjoy :)
[07:45] <LjL> :)
[07:45] <KurtKraut> irvin: do you know the name of that package ? I need that to report it in the URL you gave me.
[07:45] <irvin> KurtKraut: oh it's a livecd... better ask in -devel for the correct one.
[07:46] <KurtKraut> irvin: '-devel' ? Where exactly ?
[07:46] <LjL> cyblivious: i don't think it's considered "improper", really
[07:46] <irvin> KurtKraut: #ubuntu-devel
[07:46] <KurtKraut> irvin: ok, thanks.
[07:46] <cyblivious> but then, i have to always leave those apps open before shutting down
[07:47] <tmg2> Hello!
[07:47] <LjL> cyblivious: no, if you don't normally save your session
[07:47] <StucKman> cyblivious: you can save the session just once, and then never ever again
[07:47] <cyblivious> it's always set to save my session
[07:47] <StucKman> cyblivious: gnome or kde?
[07:47] <tmg2> Somebody knows why xedit isn't on ubuntu ?
[07:47] <cyblivious> kde
[07:47] <LjL> cyblivious: well, then i can tell you i have a ".kde/Autostart" directory. not sure about gnome, though"!
[07:48] <Morrowyn> no idea, try gedit or kate
[07:48] <cyblivious> isn't there a startup folder or text file?
[07:48] <LjL> cyblivious: (anyway, session saving can be disabled if you don't need it)
[07:48] <cyblivious> i see. thanks
[07:48] <StucKman> cyblivious: ah, then you have the Autostart directory. serach for it
[07:48] <tmg2> gedit is heavy :|
[07:48] <ConfidentiaL> Is it possible to connect to Microsoft's Remote Desktop, with Linux?
[07:48] <tmg2> I'm using qemacs now :)
[07:48] <spikebike> rdesktop
[07:48] <cyblivious> so, i should just place some shorcuts into that dir?
[07:48] <tmg2> That's a very good small editor :)
[07:48] <cyblivious> so, i should just place some shortcuts into that dir?
[07:48] <Morrowyn> :)
[07:49] <LjL> cyblivious: if you mean "symlinks", i guess so
[07:49] <StucKman> cyblivious: yes,
[07:49] <benplaut> having some problems with a broken JFS
[07:49] <dutch> what does ubuntu use as a cvs client ?
[07:49] <cyblivious> sorry, just been a linux user for less than a week
[07:49] <LjL> dutch: cvs? =)
[07:49] <dutch> yeah
[07:50] <LjL> dutch: i mean, i guess it uses cvs :)
[07:50] <benplaut> I had to force-shutdown, and now it's hanging on boot... only mounts root filesystem as RO... anyone know what to do?
[07:50] <dutch> ...trying to get a cvs webcam driver..
[07:50] <LjL> dutch: at least, i just type "cvs"
[07:50] <benplaut> it goes into recovery mode just fine, but i'm not sure what the do from there
[07:50] <dutch> okay,  i'll try it..thanks
[07:50] <LjL> dutch: you'll need to have it installed of course, "sudo aptitude install cvs"
[07:51] <cyblivious> i think i saw an app or option somewhere wherein i can set the apps to autostart. can't remember the utility though
[07:51] <dutch> LjL:  guess that would be  a good place to start
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> benplaut,  'check' the file systems - with . err.. i forget the name of the shell command. lol - aint used it in ages
[07:51] <benplaut> fsck?
[07:52] <rockyburt> hm, anyone know if the sun jdk is available as a package for dapper drake yet?
[07:52] <LjL> dutch: then you can have several graphical front-ends if you like... just search for "gnome cvs" or "kde cvs"
[07:52] <soma> i cant install libssl-dev, cause it depends on an older version of libssl, any clues how i can override it?
[07:52] <shaa-gi> benplaut: yes.  fsck (or jfs_fsck)
[07:52] <emmo> can I ask a question but without messing aroud with me I just say that because some users are really nice but other are very nasty....sorry to that.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> rockyburt,  i followed the !java bot url and installed it that way
[07:52] <LjL> emmo: just ask
[07:52] <rockyburt> !java
[07:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:52] <shaa-gi> benplaut: the entry in /etc/fstab should have a 1 in the last column.  Then fsck should run automatically during reboot
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> rockyburt,  theyr method makes a package  that you can then install.
[07:53] <rockyburt> gotcha
[07:53] <emmo> why I have that output :$ ./browser2.hta
[07:53] <emmo> ksh: ./browser2.hta: cannot execute - Permission denied
[07:53] <LjL> emmo: try "chmod +x browser2.hta"
[07:53] <soma> anyone know how i can force an apt-get install, if it says broken dependency?
[07:54] <LjL> soma: you can't, afaik
[07:54] <emmo> LjL: on my terminal ?
[07:54] <LjL> emmo: yes
[07:54] <soma> LjL, argh! :)
[07:54] <mzinz> I'm trying to install Synaptics Touchpad Drivers.. When I select for install, I get the following:  Depends: xserver-xfree86 (> 4.1.0).  I can't find this file anywhere in package manager..
[07:54] <LjL> soma: you can only use dpkg to install the stuff manually
[07:54] <LjL> soma: but then, next time apt-get (or aptitude) runs, it will try to remove it
[07:55] <rockyburt> Dr_Willis: you did that for dapper? i can't seem to find a java-package deb to install (the wiki docs say i must install this)
[07:55] <benplaut> shaa-gi: i can get into recovery... should i just run the check from there?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> rockyburt,  the directions i found told you how ti MAKE that deb.
[07:55] <shaa-gi> benplaut: yes, that should work
[07:55] <ConfidentiaL> I know that linux doesn't use batch files, but how do I make a terminal file that launches a command when I click the file? I would like it for the remote desktop...
[07:55] <cyblivious> has anyone experienced having their pc unstable and jerky after mounting an ntfs partition?
[07:55] <emmo> LjL: but what is chmod +x ? what that means ??
[07:55] <mzinz> How do I enable X Shared Memory Config in XF86Config?
[07:55] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: uh, i'm not sure what you mean? you click on what?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> ConfidentiaL,  where did ya hear that about 'batch files' - i use them all the time.
[07:56] <rockyburt> Dr_Willis: no, the instructions describe how to make "j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb", but you need java-package installed in order to make it
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> ConfidentiaL,  you can eaially make a 'launcher' that runs any shell script you make.
[07:56] <LjL> emmo: it changes the permissions on the file, and makes it executable for its owner. in order to execute files, they must be marked as executable
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> rockyburt,  i do belive ya had to have multiverse or somthng in the repos for that package.
[07:56] <ConfidentiaL> Dr_Willis : How?
[07:56] <irvin> emmo: that means your giving execute permission on a file... man chmod for more info
[07:56] <benplaut> shaa-gi: do you know what a 'xtree page corrupt' is? i think the journal is b0rked
[07:56] <mzinz> I'm trying to install Synaptics Touchpad Drivers.. When I select for install, I get the following:  Depends: xserver-xfree86 (> 4.1.0).  I can't find this file anywhere in package manager..
[07:56] <rockyburt> Dr_Willis: i think java-package provides "make-jpkg"
[07:56] <rockyburt> i have multiverse :(
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> rockyburt,  i rember adding somthing. let me check
[07:57] <LjL> emmo: likewise, they must be set as readable to read them, and writable to write them. every file has three set of permissions --- one that decides what the *owner* of the file can do, one that decides what the *group* of users that the file belongs to can do, and one that decides that the *world* can do
[07:57] <shaa-gi> shaa-gi: it means you won't be able to recover whatever file it's complaining about
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> rockyburt,  main restricted universe multiverse
[07:57] <shaa-gi> benplaut: lit means you won't be able to recover whatever file it's complaining about
[07:58] <benplaut> shaa-gi: so i should rescue on a livecd and reinstall?
[07:58] <rockyburt> Dr_Willis: i already have:  deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:58] <LjL> emmo: try "ls -l any-file-you-like" -- it will show something like "-rwxrwxrwx" (or "-rwx-r----", or various combinations). from left to right, that's what the owner, group and world can do
[07:58] <mzinz> Synaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck
[07:58] <emmo> so just last question guys...always when I have that output I can do the same command ???
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> rockyburt,   no clue.. i just adeed multiverse to like all the repos :P and got it.
[07:58] <LjL> emmo: no, not blindly...
[07:59] <LjL> emmo: "permission denied" can come up for various reasons, only one of which is the file not being marked as executable
[07:59] <shaa-gi> benplaut: fsck should tell you the path to any files that cannot be fixed.  You may be able to recover and just have to fix a file or two
[07:59] <LjL> emmo: for example, you may simply not be the owner of that file -- if that's the case, you won't even be able to change its permissions
[07:59] <ConfidentiaL> Dr_Willis : What is the extension name for the file? Is it .bat here too?
[07:59] <shaa-gi> benplaut: Unless it spews out a whole lot of errors
[07:59] <LjL> emmo: (in that case, you can change them using "sudo chmod", but you should take a lot of care with that)
[07:59] <benplaut> shaa-gi: by fixing a file you mean deleting it?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> ConfidentiaL,  now is the time for you to learn some linux basics. :P  it does not have to have any extension. and can be in any of a dozen programing languages.
[08:00] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: there are no extensions in linux
[08:00] <shaa-gi> benplaut: fsck will delete a file it can't fix
[08:00] <benplaut> ahh
[08:00] <TonyB2006> the 64bit ubuntu installer keeps freezing as its installing
[08:00] <TonyB2006> the md5sum of the cd is fine
[08:00] <ConfidentiaL> oh, lol, NICE!:D
[08:00] <benplaut> so recovery of the fs isn't possible?
[08:00] <shaa-gi> benplaut: Depending on the file, you might not worry about it.  It depends on the file
[08:01] <benplaut> says the filesystem is clean
[08:01] <blueboy> hi all ..just testing ubuntu and came to realise that it didn't ask me for a root password? Whats that all about ?
[08:01] <ConfidentiaL> so I can write like a C++ code in an empty document, and just run it?
[08:01] <shaa-gi> benplaut: that's good
[08:01] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: at the beginning on a script, you can type  "  #/bin/sh  " -- this means that the script will be executed by /bin/sh, which is the system shell
[08:01] <emmo> LjL: yeah I'm not owner ...so where shall I lean more about that but with more details ?
[08:01] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: but it can be anything else, like a Perl interpreter, whatever
[08:01] <emmo> LjL:please..
[08:01] <LjL> !tell emmo about cli
[08:01] <benplaut> brb
[08:02] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : What about C++ in it?
[08:02] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: not unless you find a C++ *interpreter*
[08:02] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: and C/C++ are usually *compiled* language, though there are certainly some interpreters for C around... not sure about C++
[08:02] <blueboy> can anybody help me please with ( I am sure ) this simple Q ?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> heh...
[08:03] <mivecz> hello  how i  fix  some bugs in  ubundu the  command
[08:03] <TonyB2006> can someone help me?
[08:03] <emmo> Thank you guys....
[08:03] <bestadvocate> I have a need to convince some GTK2 apps, like Serpentine and Thoggen to use a something other than the root file system as the temporary dirrectory.  Anyone have any advice?
[08:03] <irvin> !tell blueboy about sudo
[08:03] <mivecz> hello  how i  fix  some bugs in  ubundu the  command
[08:04] <bestadvocate> mivecz you dont make any sense
[08:04] <mivecz> upgrade
[08:04] <Siddhartha211> yo
[08:04] <Siddhartha211> anyone there
[08:04] <ConfidentiaL> also, can I make the window bar at the bottom have more then 1 row?
[08:04] <blueboy> irvin, thanks man
[08:04] <Siddhartha211> i need some help
[08:05] <alteroo> Siddhartha211: really?
[08:05] <emmo> LjL:thank you
[08:05] <Siddhartha211> im trying to install Adobe Acrobat for Windows...except there some folder it need to install to but it cant becuase windows doesnt allow it
[08:05] <bestadvocate> emmo: hehe
[08:05] <Siddhartha211> but if i use linux
[08:05] <Siddhartha211> can i delete the file
[08:06] <alteroo> Siddhartha211: all you want to do is open a pdf right?
[08:06] <emmo> bestadvocate:what ?:)
[08:06] <VarkOogTandePast> hey
[08:06] <VarkOogTandePast> is tis where i can get help with ubuntu?
[08:06] <bestadvocate> emmo: sorry I intended to adress alteroo who had typed the line before you
[08:07] <ConfidentiaL> brb
[08:07] <Siddhartha211> YO I ALREADY REGISTERED HOW COME I CANT SEND PRIVATE MESSAGES?????????????
[08:07] <Siddhartha211> do i have to log in or something
[08:07] <LjL> VarkOogTandePast: it does say "official ubuntu support channel" in the topic, so i guess so ;)
[08:07] <ice> someone tell me how to fix this
[08:07] <VarkOogTandePast> lol sorry
[08:07] <ice> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[08:07] <ice>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[08:07] <ice>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[08:07] <ice>   Serial number of failed request:  97
[08:07] <ice>   Current serial number in output stream:  98
[08:07] <LjL> Siddhartha211: start by not SHOUTING, please
[08:07] <robotgeek> ice, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:07] <emmo> bestadvocate: no worries...
[08:07] <ice> sorry
[08:07] <LjL> Siddhartha211: you need to "/msg nickserv identify your-password"
[08:07] <VarkOogTandePast> i need elp removing that grub ting
[08:08] <ice> I have glx enabled though
[08:08] <Siddhartha211> "/msg nickserv identify your-password"
[08:08] <VarkOogTandePast> and to connect to a VPN with ubuntu
[08:08] <Siddhartha211> where do i put the password
[08:08] <bestadvocate> lol
[08:08] <BrenIII> is there a problem with gcc-3.4???  I'm getting a "failed to fetch......Size mismatch"
[08:08] <LjL> Siddhartha211: without the quotes...         perhaps at the place of "your-password"?
[08:08] <LjL> Siddhartha211: (are you kidding me?)
[08:08] <bestadvocate> this is highly entertaining
[08:08] <alteroo> Siddhartha211: how old are you?
[08:09] <ice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9057
[08:09] <Big`Hades> what is ubuntu ?
[08:09] <Siddhartha211> 16...but i dont no how to work IRC chats that well
[08:09] <abre> what would be the best program for graphically partitioning my hd?
[08:09] <syyd> bestadvocate - u r right
[08:09] <alteroo> Big`Hades: ubuntu the word? or the Distro?
[08:09] <VarkOogTandePast> is there sumwhere where i can go and read up on those tings?
[08:09] <Big`Hades> the distro
[08:09] <heishiro> Is there an easy way to install JRE on Ubuntu?
[08:09] <ice> package
[08:10] <wter> i want to install java1.4 in -> /usr/local/java1.4 <-- how ? :)
[08:10] <ice> synaptic
[08:10] <nickrud> !java
[08:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:10] <alteroo> Siddhartha211: reading is a good way to start learning how to use irc chats
[08:10] <EvilGuru> is there a breezy backports project>
[08:10] <alteroo> Big`Hades: have you tried the site
[08:10] <nickrud> javadebs are nice
[08:10] <VarkOogTandePast> ice how do i set up my VPN on ubuntu?
[08:10] <VarkOogTandePast> please help
[08:10] <ice> hmm
[08:10] <alteroo> Big`Hades: http://www.ubuntu.com/ <-- check it out
[08:10] <Big`Hades> alteroo: yes but is easyer here
[08:10] <heishiro> ill try synaptic.. but i searched for it and it didnt show.
[08:10] <VarkOogTandePast> thats like te decideing factor for me to carry on using it
[08:10] <ice> best bet check out vpn servers first and a client
[08:11] <Big`Hades> alteroo: why is this distro so good ?
[08:11] <ice> then go from there
[08:11] <ice> sorry I use remote desktop
[08:11] <EvilGuru> anyone know if there is one
[08:11] <wter> where will java automaticcaly be installed, cause i have to set $JAVA_HOME to it
[08:11] <VarkOogTandePast> i c
[08:11] <alteroo> Big`Hades: I trust you havent tried it either
[08:11] <bestadvocate> Big`Hades: Its the Universe that won me over
[08:11] <nickrud> heishiro, search for jre2 (for blackdown java) if you can't find it, you need to enable the multiverse repository
[08:11] <oklinux> how do I make the icon on the desktop smaller ?
[08:11] <VarkOogTandePast> bleh, coz i only got the VPN setting from my isp
[08:11] <irvin> Big`Hades: because it just works? ;)
[08:11] <Big`Hades> :)
[08:12] <alteroo> Siddhartha211: so.. yeah.. you want to open a pdf?
[08:12] <StucKman> wter: most likely in /usr/lib/java or something similat
[08:12] <abre> what would be the best program for graphically partitioning my hd?
[08:12] <heishiro> ok nickrud, ill try that... The Multiverse repository i think is enabled... Ill check anyway. Thanks
[08:12] <VarkOogTandePast> The VPN is a local internet service provider, 512kbps uncapped
[08:12] <alteroo> Big`Hades: it works well too
[08:12] <LjL-Dinner> abre: gparted
[08:12] <VarkOogTandePast> r399 pm
[08:12] <LjL-Dinner> Big`Hades: because debian's good, and ubuntu is based on debian with some nice refinements for the desktop user
[08:12] <nickrud> oklinux, System->Prefs->File manager, change the icon zoom
[08:12] <StucKman> abre: best? partition magic, colsed dource, paid. if not, you can try the gparted live cd
[08:12] <wter> StucKman, in /usr/lib isnt a dir called java only a file called java
[08:13] <nickrud> oklinux, that'll change the sizes in a filemanager window also, though
[08:13] <StucKman> wter: that must be /usr/bin/java
[08:13] <ice> alright now someone help me outu
[08:13] <ice> lol
[08:13] <ice> I installed dapper
[08:13] <ice> but now can[t get nvidia to work
[08:13] <StucKman> wter: once installeb from .debs, you can dpkg -L <packagename> to sse where/what's been installed
[08:13] <VarkOogTandePast> ice which nvidia do u use?
[08:13] <wter> cause i wan t to install ninan, here http://ninan.sourceforge.net/installing.html
[08:13] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[08:13] <wter> ill try stuckman
[08:14] <ice> 6600 gt
[08:14] <sixslap> can anyone here tell me why ident wont work
[08:14] <VarkOogTandePast> sorry then myne setting wont elp you
[08:14] <ice> why what do you have
[08:14] <linuxboyfriend> can I move to lower version (3.3.6) of GCC from a higer version (4.0.2)?
[08:14] <VarkOogTandePast> using the fx5500 turbo
[08:14] <ice> yes
[08:14] <ice> install both
[08:14] <VarkOogTandePast> inno3d
[08:14] <StucKman> linuxboyfriend: you can install several at the same time
[08:14] <ice> use export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:14] <ice> to compile
[08:15] <StucKman> linuxboyfriend: and see what ice is saying
[08:15] <ice> fx5500 how old is that
[08:15] <VarkOogTandePast> ok, the VPN tings looks like its not going to happen. So how do i remove the GRUB without using fdisk/ mbr command
[08:15] <ice> and you have dapper
[08:15] <alteroo> linuxboyfriend: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.3 #try that
[08:15] <VarkOogTandePast> about a year or so ice
[08:15] <linuxboyfriend> ice: can you give me any link for help, today is my first day with ubuntu
[08:16] <ice> umm
[08:16] <edward0> where can I download the ubuntu gnome themes?
[08:16] <ice> just do as I said bro
[08:16] <ice> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[08:16] <VarkOogTandePast> its 256mb and 256bit so its doing fine for now
[08:16] <ompaul> edward0, there are some on gnome-look
[08:16] <ice> then do :::export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:16] <StucKman> linuxboyfriend: or use synaptics and look for gcc
[08:16] <linuxboyfriend> ice: thanks a lot :)
[08:17] <ice> np
[08:17] <alteroo> edward0 have you tried gnome-look.org?
[08:17] <ice> vark
[08:17] <irvin> edward0: the easiest way to do it is install gnome-art
[08:17] <ice> help me
[08:17] <ice> lol
[08:17] <sixslap> can anyone tell me how to make ident work?
[08:17] <VarkOogTandePast> wat moet ek vir jou doen bra?
[08:17] <ice> I want to run my graphics card on dapper
[08:17] <TonyB2006> can somepne please help me?
[08:17] <VarkOogTandePast> lol
[08:17] <bestadvocate> I'm accited about ebuntu.
[08:17] <TonyB2006> c'mon
[08:17] <TonyB2006> the 64bit ubuntu installer keeps freezing as its installing
[08:17] <edward0> alteroo: yes but none are the actual ubuntu versions they vary is some way
[08:17] <VarkOogTandePast> hhhhmmmm
[08:17] <TonyB2006> please...
[08:17] <ice> freezing
[08:17] <ice> you mean at the splash screen
[08:17] <alteroo> edward0: sudo aptitude install gnome-art #try that
[08:17] <TonyB2006> no
[08:17] <VarkOogTandePast> ek is nou terug
[08:17] <refuze2looze> how can i have startx executed automatically after logging in?
[08:17] <ice> vark help
[08:18] <TonyB2006> it freezes at the part where its like "Installing the base system"
[08:18] <ice> hmm
[08:18] <TonyB2006> at a different point every time
[08:18] <emmo> see ya...
[08:18] <ice> vark help
[08:18] <VarkOogTandePast> gan gou kyk of ek jou kan help ice
[08:18] <VarkOogTandePast> wat is jou vendor?
[08:18] <heishiro> Thanks nickrud... The Multiverse repositore was my problem... It wasnt enabled... Thanks a lot...
[08:18] <VarkOogTandePast> Nvidia?
[08:18] <ice> yeah
[08:18] <nickrud> heishiro, yw
[08:19] <wter> !nohup
[08:19] <ubotu> wter: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:19] <VarkOogTandePast> En die chipset maker? So Gigabyte bv. ?
[08:19] <wter> whats nohup ?
[08:19] <ice> !dapper
[08:19] <ubotu> I heard dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[08:19] <ice> nvidia
[08:19] <ice> !nvidia
[08:19] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> nohup means nohangup
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> if you start an application from terminal
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> if you press ctrl c
[08:19] <ice> for dapper bot
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> app is stopped
[08:19] <ice> !dapper-nvidia
[08:19] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ice
[08:19] <TonyB2006> 3hmm, is dapper the unstable distribution
[08:19] <wter> thnx :)
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> you can use nohup or the & symbol
[08:19] <ompaul> TonyB2006, dapper is very unstable
[08:19] <VarkOogTandePast> ok brb ice
[08:20] <ice> k
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> for ex: gedit &
[08:20] <ice> come on
[08:20] <ompaul> TonyB2006, are you trying to install dapper or 5.10?
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> if you ^^ you get back the console, and gedit runs...
[08:20] <linuxboyfriend> ice: when I gave the command sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4, it said that (I am) linuxboyfriend not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported? whats wrong?
[08:20] <TonyB2006> ompaul: 5.10
[08:20] <ice> all I want is to get my graphics card working is that too much to ask
[08:20] <ice> lol
[08:20] <wter> ok ok
[08:20] <ice> ????
[08:20] <nnacht> I have problem with my network card: it breaks everytime if I try to download a big file, say a cd-image. The NIC ist 8139
[08:20] <exxpert_> Im baaack!
[08:20] <ice> boy what are you using ?
[08:21] <bestadvocate> ice: i never got mine working right, accept in horray for a while.
[08:21] <ice> I got it working just fine in breezy
[08:21] <exxpert_> im now on my own ubuntu dapper installation,, got the monitor to work!,,
[08:21] <ice> even the chip set worked good
[08:21] <ice> exxpert
[08:21] <ice> have you got your card to work on it
[08:22] <ompaul> TonyB2006, so you have in place an AMD 64 and it freezes some of the way into the install, there are several possible causes of this, no definitive option, so first off there is a page with "boot options" which you can view by pressing F1 and then F5 while the machine is paused at the start of the boot process
[08:22] <VarkOogTandePast> dan neem ek an die is jou paste www.linuxforums.org/forum/coffee-lounge/55196-ubuntu-6-04-released-4-20-a.html
[08:22] <ompaul> !tell TonyB2006 about boot options
[08:22] <ice> yeah its a bitch to get the monitor to work
[08:22] <ompaul> !tell TonyB2006 about bootoptions
[08:22] <ice> especially if its not a fresh install
[08:22] <TonyB2006> the main thing is that i installed it once before a while ago
[08:22] <ice> thx vark
[08:22] <mzinz> Synaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck
[08:22] <exxpert_> it was the horizsync that f*cked up things..
[08:22] <VarkOogTandePast> np
[08:22] <ompaul> TonyB2006, the bot has sent you a message have a look at it
[08:22] <TonyB2006> im already using vga=791 option
[08:22] <TonyB2006> i know
[08:23] <bestadvocate> Anyone running dapper right now?
[08:23] <exxpert> yuup
[08:23] <rockyburt> anyone know if the w32codecs run in dapper's totem-gstreamer or if i need totem-xine ?
[08:23] <bestadvocate> exxpert:Is it a good time to upgrade to it on a spare partition?
[08:23] <nickrud> rockyburt, totem-xine
[08:23] <exxpert> but dont ask me anything about it;-)
[08:23] <ompaul> TonyB2006, there is also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[08:23] <irvin> bestadvocate: i'm on it
[08:23] <Matyas_za> HI guys
[08:24] <TonyB2006> no, it IS booting
[08:24] <TonyB2006> *IS* booting up
[08:24] <Silivrenion> I was able to get my server to boot into dos via a win98 boot cd lying around... Its in dos, and i've cd'ed to the ubuntu install cd.. what do I need to do to get it to install via dos?
[08:24] <TonyB2006> and installing part of the system
[08:24] <exxpert> bestadvocate: im not the one to ask that my friend,, sorry.. im n00b:-D
[08:24] <nnacht> Can somebody helps me with my network card? The Nic is 8139 in a toshiba m40 notebook, and it breaks everytime when I try to download some big files, like cd-images.
[08:24] <bestadvocate> I think I'm going to upgrade to dapper, on account of my boredom
[08:25] <exxpert> bestadvocate: then its a good idea:-)
[08:25] <ompaul> TonyB2006, read that web page based on what I have seen here it seems to work for some
[08:25] <VarkOogTandePast> ice is that post help you?
[08:25] <nickrud> bestadvocate, the best reason possible, imho ;)
[08:25] <ice> hell no
[08:25] <foampeac1> hi
[08:25] <ice> there just bitching aboutu ubuntu
[08:25] <mzinz> Synaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck
[08:25] <Tom_> hello ;)
[08:25] <ompaul> ice, language please
[08:25] <ice> sorry
[08:25] <ice> is there a dapper room
[08:25] <Kyral> #ubuntu+1
[08:25] <ompaul> !dapper
[08:25] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[08:26] <Matyas_za> I just installed proftpd and when i try and restart, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart I get this error Warning: ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd
[08:26] <VarkOogTandePast> ek sal nog kyk
[08:26] <VarkOogTandePast> !grub
[08:26] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:26] <rad4Christ> Guys, I'm trying to change ownership of some folders on a second hard drive, but I'm getting this:
[08:26] <rad4Christ> chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/Server/cannon': Operation not permitted
[08:26] <Tom_> !raid
[08:26] <ubotu> hmm... raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[08:26] <rad4Christ> Any idea?
[08:26] <ice> matyas get glftpd
[08:26] <ice> a lot better
[08:26] <Knowledge_|wOrk> what would you guys recommend? installing ubuntu (before 5.1) and then do an upgrade? or just download the newest?
[08:26] <ice> and easier
[08:26] <Matyas_za> is it better?
[08:26] <exxpert> gotta reboot*
[08:26] <ice> yeah
[08:26] <Kyral> 5.10 is on discs
[08:26] <Tom_> thx ubotu
[08:26] <Kyral> Knowledge_|wOrk: and its 5.10 (as in five POINT ten )
[08:26] <Matyas_za> Thank you ICE!
[08:26] <VarkOogTandePast> !vpn
[08:27] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, VarkOogTandePast
[08:27] <ConfidentiaL> so, is there any way of making the window's bar have more then 1 row?
[08:27] <rad4Christ> Anyone?
[08:27] <ice> yep
[08:27] <xtreon> Can anyone explain what YUM is?
[08:27] <Kyral> xtreon: Its Fedora's Package manager
[08:27] <ice> isn;t that suse
[08:27] <Kyral> Think Apt for RPM
[08:28] <Kyral> but we don't use it for obvious reasons :D
[08:28] <ice> yum is susse isn't
[08:28] <ice> it
[08:28] <xtreon> ubuntu is RPM?
[08:28] <ice> no
[08:28] <Kyral> xtreon: Ubuntu is Deb
[08:28] <ice> apt
[08:28] <TonyB2006> no
[08:28] <Kyral> xtreon: Apt-Get :D
[08:28] <TonyB2006> yes, apt
[08:28] <TonyB2006> or dpkg
[08:28] <ice> yep
[08:28] <Kyral> It's Debian Based so we get the mother of all Package Management :D
[08:28] <xtreon> Mandrake is RPM? :D
[08:28] <ice> bummer I want to play some games
[08:28] <ice> lol
[08:28] <Kyral> okay
[08:28] <ompaul> ice, no it is Yast which masks the rpm commands in SuSE and you asked about dapper /join #ubuntu+1 for it
[08:28] <Kyral> Off the top of my head
[08:29] <ice> thanks
[08:29] <xtreon> what the hell is RPM then? :S
[08:29] <rad4Christ> anyone?
[08:29] <ompaul> xtreon, language, and it is short for RedHat Package Manager
[08:29] <zF> !info RPM
[08:29] <_jason> rad4Christ: what filesystem?
[08:29] <ubotu> rpm: (Red Hat package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 4.0.4-31ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1968 kB
[08:29] <exxpert> anyone know how to change resolution on startup screen?
[08:29] <rad4Christ> FAT32, is that the culprit?
[08:30] <irvin> rad4Christ: use sudo chmod
[08:30] <Kyral> RPM: Fedora, SuSE, RedHat(DUH!), Mandriva. Deb(Apt-Get): Debian, Kanotix, U/K/Xubuntu, Mepis, Knoppix, SymphonyOS
[08:30] <ompaul> exxpert, sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <_jason> rad4Christ: maybe, never tried it... did you try with sudo?
[08:30] <edward0> Human doesn't show up in gnome-art application :(
[08:30] <xtreon> Kyral: thanks =)
[08:30] <Kyral> xtreon: thats just off the top of my head
[08:30] <VarkOogTandePast> good luck guys
[08:31] <exxpert> ompaul: is that really just the resloution of the startup?
[08:31] <rad4Christ> Yeah, I tried sudo.
[08:31] <xtreon> so where do i find info about YUM?
[08:31] <Kyral> xtreon: not here
[08:31] <Kyral> lol
[08:31] <xnull> how do I split files?
[08:31] <rad4Christ> I can go to System > Administration > Disks, highlight the drive, click browse, and I can do whatever I want.
[08:31] <irvin> edward0: the Human theme is installed by default
[08:31] <Kyral> xtreon: look on fedorawiki.org
[08:32] <xtreon> Kyral: ok i will.. thanks
[08:32] <exxpert> ompaul: you know then ubuntu is starting up and loads things..
[08:32] <rad4Christ> But if I go to it from PLaces, I can't to anything...
[08:32] <ompaul> exxpert ahh
[08:32] <hypnox> xnull: split
[08:32] <beerockxs> how can I make sure that the agpgart kernel module is loaded before the radeon one is?
[08:32] <ompaul> exxpert, let me look that one up I think you can do something with it
[08:33] <yorian> anyone knows how strange menu's in VLC, Audacity, xwine, xmms can appear?
[08:33] <eldad> hallo! does anybody knows how to configure keyboard language settings?
[08:33] <alteroo> yorian: yeah ... if you turn the screen upside down :-)
[08:34] <Tedd> Hi. Does anyone know if there's 4-speaker-support for Linux?
[08:34] <rad4Christ> I've typed "sudo chown system_username /mnt/Server"
[08:34] <Tedd> I have four speakers and only two of them function.
[08:34] <yorian> alteroo: LOL, I mean this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133469
[08:35] <yorian> eldad: System>Preferences>Keyboard?
[08:35] <eldad> Tedd: I'm not sure but I guess u can configure that using ALSA
[08:35] <rad4Christ> I get: chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/Server': Operation not permitted
[08:35] <yorian> if you're using gnome
[08:35] <ompaul> exxpert, you have to be able to, because the live CDs all offer different font sizes
[08:36] <alteroo> yorian: oh. so.. what's so weird about the menu?
[08:36] <exxpert> ompaul. Sure thing! when i installed, i got to choose between "VGA" and many other resolutions.. the first install i did when things died i got 1280x1024 in the whole install and startup,, then i messed it up and installed again and forgotten to choose 1280x1024, just VGA and now ots booting in 640x480
[08:36] <rad4Christ> Anyone have an idea?
[08:36] <yorian> alteroo: I attached some images in the topic :) it's hard to describe
[08:36] <exxpert> ompaul: wierd stuff:-D
[08:37] <alteroo> rad4Christ: have you tried putting sudo infront of the chown command?
[08:37] <alteroo> yorian: oh i see
[08:37] <modi> Hi, how can i increase font size in emacs?
[08:37] <rad4Christ> YEah
[08:37] <rad4Christ> alteroo, YEs
[08:37] <stian> Hey, I've got a big file I wanna put on a fat32 ext2 drive and I thought I'd use tar or similar to devide the file into several parts. How should the command look like? "tar -c someiso.iso" etc?
[08:37] <ompaul> exxpert, not a normal question, however for X that command I gave you works, well your asking and I know it must be possible I am just trying to find the syntax that impacts it - I can't even get a command yet - but hey it will come
[08:37] <Kyral> modi: M-x customize and look around
[08:37] <Tedd> eldad, I've been playing in ALSA forever but it hasn't helped
[08:37] <Kyral> That thing is huge...
[08:37] <alteroo> rad4Christ: and it still doesnt believe you?
[08:38] <alteroo> yorian: beats me
[08:38] <eldad> yorian: using Gnome... I couldn't figure out how to use the the combination chars like in XP (`+E -> )
[08:38] <rad4Christ> Yep, but I think I know why.
[08:38] <rad4Christ> It's FAT32
[08:38] <Tedd> Does anyone have a fully-functioning 4-speaker system?
[08:38] <alteroo> rad4Christ: you mean the drive is mounted readonly?
[08:38] <CaNsA> how do i install my gfx card?
[08:38] <yorian> eldad: I also have difficulties with that stuff, also in Windows
[08:38] <eldad> Tedd: sorry, don't know much...
[08:38] <yorian> alteroo: It comes and goes, strangethings, those computers ;)
[08:39] <Tedd> 'salright
[08:39] <exxpert> ompaul: I know..:-),,tricky,, thanks for helping me out..:-)
[08:39] <Tedd> Anybody else have a fully-funtioning 4-speaker system on Ubuntu?
[08:39] <alteroo> yorian: yup... that;s how they are
[08:39] <Tedd> I have a 4 speaker set with a subwoofer that came with the computer, but only the 2 speakers on ther right and subwoffer are working.
[08:39] <eldad> yorian: in XP it works out of the box (at least on my HP laptop)
[08:39] <CaNsA> actually my gfx card is installed
[08:39] <CaNsA> but it wont go to 1024x 768
[08:40] <eldad> yorian: have u got any idea how is that functionality called?
[08:40] <yorian> eldad: not with me :), but here in Linux the (`+E -> ) doesn't work, I'll look for it too :)
[08:40] <yorian> CaNsA: what type?
[08:40] <yorian> eldad: no idea
[08:40] <JW> New to ubuntu.  How do I add a Financing section to the applications menu for gnucash?
[08:41] <nickrud> JW, use apps->system tools->menu editor
[08:41] <yorian> JW: install alacarte :)
[08:41] <CaNsA> voodoo 3
[08:41] <ConfidentiaL> how did I make a file run in the terminal?
[08:41] <lint> Anyone with any experience installing Enlightenment?
[08:41] <sixslap> i just wanna know how to make ident work
[08:42] <nickrud> CaNsA, oooh, are we ever up to date :)
[08:42] <CaNsA> sixslap, forward port 113
[08:42] <CaNsA> lol nickrud
[08:42] <nickrud> CaNsA, I used one of those for a long time, what's the problem?
[08:42] <eldad> yorian: thanx anyhow... BTW, do u know whether it is possible to start SKYPE as AWAY
[08:42] <CaNsA> i cant get it to display in 1024x768
[08:42] <irvin> CaNsA: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:42] <rad4Christ> OK
[08:42] <yorian> CaNsA: no
[08:43] <yorian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d?highlight=%28voodoo%29
[08:43] <CaNsA> cheers
[08:43] <yorian> yw :)
[08:43] <rad4Christ> alteroo, I have a VFAT partition on the HD. IF I go through Administration > Disks, I can add/edit files fine.
[08:43] <eldad> ConfidentiaL: just write its name...
[08:43] <rad4Christ> alteroo, if I go to Places > COmputer, and browse there, it's read only
[08:44] <rad4Christ> I need to make it read/write for every user locally.
[08:44] <nickrud> CaNsA, you probably need to do the FixVideoResolution link on that page first to get the proper vertrefresh & horizsync lines into xorg.conf
[08:44] <refuze2looze> is there a log file X keeps which says the screen mode which it was running at?
[08:44] <edward0> ubuntu-artwork
[08:44] <edward0> :)
[08:44] <ompaul> exxpert, well you got me stumped, I have tried booting a live CD there a moment ago (if you have the ram for it qemu -cdrom file.iso) and I have gone through the menu nothing jumped out at me
[08:45] <eldad> help:  how should the keyboard be configured for  use of combination chars like in XP (`+E ->  and so on...)
[08:45] <yorian> nickrud: he has a voodoo3, it's abit special :)
[08:45] <yorian> nickrud: the link that a gave him gives good info :)
[08:45] <Ribs> 3dfx > *
[08:45] <nickrud> yorian, I wrote it :)
[08:45] <yorian> lol :p
[08:45] <sixslap> grrrrrrrrrr
[08:45] <exxpert> ompaul: i give up!:-),, thanks for your efforts!
[08:45] <LjL-Dinner> refuze2looze: /var/log/Xorg.log is the one i can think of. it lists a few things
[08:46] <mzinz> Synaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck
[08:46] <ompaul> exxpert, if it was a dog it would have bitten us
[08:47] <ompaul> exxpert, on the development version it works like this press F3 right at the beginning if that impacts an already older and installed system I have no idea
[08:47] <Angel_Dex_> Is there anything in ubuntu that tells the CPU temp?
[08:47] <modi> OK, M-x customize, then I guess I have to choose "Faces" and then ?:(
[08:48] <exxpert> ompaul: you dont have a clue on how to get a wireless pakage of keyboard and mice to work?,, just to shutdown, plug in USB and startup and its working?!
[08:48] <refuze2looze> LjL-Dinner, thanks..
[08:48] <Tedd> Hmmm
[08:48] <exxpert> ompaul: on the dapper?
[08:48] <ompaul> exxpert, if it is correctly build it should but I don't have one to test
[08:48] <Tedd> There doesn't seem to be anything on the forums about my problem.
[08:48] <obscurite> Hey all. I've been using Ubuntu happly for a while, until I deleted my top panel as an experiment. Now I can't quite figure out how to get it back.
[08:48] <refuze2looze> and can i get xorg to display which screen mode it is currently running on?
[08:48] <ompaul> exxpert, shhh we don't talk about that here thats in #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:49] <exxpert> ompaul: then i should move!,, i use it..*schhh*
[08:49] <mzinz> Synaptics touchpad driver says I need a newer version of xserver-xfree86.  When I do apt-get install xserver-xfree86, it says I have the newest version... im stuck
[08:49] <mzinz> any ideas?
[08:49] <ompaul> exxpert, go there and meet your kindred spirits
[08:50] <obscurite> The desktop is a bit hard to use without any way to launch applications. Anyone have a good resource for figuring out how to get my top panel back? Or make my own panels?
[08:51] <nickrud> mzinz, you could try the xorg-driver-synaptics package, if you haven't already
[08:51] <Tedd> Can anybody reccomend an audio engine? Maybe that's it?
[08:51] <LjL> obscurite: under KDE, it's settings / desktop / panels. i can't imagine it would be too much different in gnome...?
[08:51] <mzinz> nickrud, i have..
[08:52] <ConfidentiaL> eldad : I didnt get that... Just write its name??? I have an empty file, and I have filled in the "code" for my remote desktop connection, and I want that to be a file I can run...
[08:52] <obscurite> LjL - Do you mean under the menus? I don't even have any menus anymore.
[08:52] <Matyas_za> Good night guys!
[08:52] <fek> does anybody have the behavoiur with kopete on breezy to, when you send a message through icq, it will crash?
[08:52] <nickrud> mzinz, then you might try checking for the xorg development files
[08:52] <LjL> obscurite: can you launch the control panel or something using the right mouse button on the desktop?
[08:53] <kyletxag> hey guys, i just installed wildfire, a jabber server on breezy, but I dont know how to make the program start as a service.  Wildfire came with a daemon called wildfired, but I dont know where to put it...  anyone?
[08:53] <CaNsA> when doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:53] <CaNsA> what chipset should i choose for a voodo 3?
[08:53] <nickrud> CaNsA, tdfx
[08:54] <CaNsA> jammin
[08:54] <obscurite> LjL - I can launch gnome-control-center but it has no panels options
[08:54] <mzinz> nickrud, ok
[08:54] <CaNsA> nickrud
[08:54] <CaNsA> video card bus identifyer
[08:54] <eldad> ConfidentiaL: I'm afraid I don't understand what r u trying to do...
[08:54] <nickrud> mzinz, if you don't have any, x-window-system-dev will get you *all* you need
[08:54] <nickrud> CaNsA, skip that, it should work automatically
[08:55] <CaNsA> kk
[08:55] <Makaraki> want to mount a hda1 patition with ntfs data (windows)
[08:55] <CaNsA> kernal frame buffer?
[08:55] <nickrud> CaNsA, I mean, use the default just about everywhere
[08:55] <CaNsA> kk
[08:55] <obscurite> C'mon you gnome experts - anyone know how I can get my top panel back after I "removed" it?
[08:55] <LjL> obscurite: dunno, not being a gnome user i don't really know these interface details...
[08:55] <Makaraki> Hi guys, grettings, I have a newbie question
[08:56] <nickrud> obscurite, right click the bottom panel (between the window list and window switcher) add new panel
[08:56] <obscurite> nickrud - damn, i coulda sworn I looked for something like that. teehee. thanks.
[08:56] <Makaraki> I edit the fstab with the next /dev/hda1       /media/win      ntfs    user,noauto,ro,nls=utf8,uid=1000  0   0
[08:56] <ubuntu_> obscurite: do you have the bottom panel left?
[08:56] <modi> Kyral, are you there?
[08:56] <obscurite> I managed to add a top panel
[08:56] <nickrud> obscurite, it's very hard to find the first time :)
[08:57] <mzinz> nickrud, its so weird.. i try to get the synaptics drivers and it tells me to check my repos because i dont have the newest version of xserver-xfree86
[08:57] <Makaraki> and I already created a directory
[08:57] <beerockxs> when will gnome remember panel placement correctly?
[08:57] <soundray> Looking for advice on compilation: I have a run-time critical application that compiles with gcc 3.4, but not with 4.0. I'd like a rough idea how difficult it is in general to port code to gcc 4. Anyone with any experience here?
[08:57] <Kyral> modi: I'm ttyping up notes
[08:57] <Kyral> is it critical?
[08:57] <ConfidentiaL> eldad : just make a file with contents I would like to run in the terminal when I click on it...
[08:57] <obscurite> THANKS LjL, nichrud, ubuntu_
[08:57] <modi> not really
[08:57] <LjL> Makaraki: and the problem is?
[08:58] <nickrud> mzinz, could you post the complete error from an apt-get run to pastebin?
[08:58] <Kyral> modi: Sorry, I really have to study...
[08:58] <Makaraki> LjL: it doesn't work
[08:58] <Mr> hey
[08:58] <LjL> soundray: i guess most of the times it's simply some stupid programming mistake that the programmers didn't notice... but on the other hand if it's a big application it might *base* itself on the old gcc behaviour
[08:59] <LjL> soundray: can't you just compile it with gcc 3 and be done with it?
[08:59] <mzinz> nickrud, ya
[08:59] <LjL> Makaraki: define "doesn't work", what happens when you mount it?
[08:59] <modi> Kyral, Good speed!
[09:00] <soundray> LjL, I could, but it's a memory-intensive thing (we chatted about it before) and I want the best available optimization for amd64.
[09:00] <mzinz> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9060
[09:00] <LjL> soundray: how big is it, and how many dependencies it requires to compile? if it doesn't take ages to get it to compile, i'll give it a try
[09:01] <CaNsA> nickrud, cheers mate
[09:01] <NickGarvey> apt-get update is failing after I first installed ubuntu?
[09:01] <CaNsA> that works a treat
[09:01] <nickrud> CaNsA, yw
[09:01] <LjL> NickGarvey: failing like what?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems.
[09:01] <esac> running flight-4 .. my alps touchpad acceleration and sensitivity is at its highest, yet it is still REALLY slow to move the mouse across the screen, any ideas ?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> Couldn't stat sources package list
[09:02] <eldad> ConfidentiaL: if I understand correctly u r trying to create some sort of a script - if so u should have the first line with the correct script language and where the interperter is loacated for example (for running a bash script):
[09:02] <_jason> NickGarvey: did you run apt-get update
[09:02] <arnoud> hi all
[09:02] <l0> .. Ihave  question guys...
[09:02] <NickGarvey> yes
[09:02] <soundray> LjL, code size is 94 MB. Its main dependency is libvtk.
[09:02] <eldad> ConfidentiaL: #! /bin/bash
[09:02] <nickrud> mzinz, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:02] <LjL> NickGarvey: perhaps it's a problem with the mirror. the US mirror seemed to have some problems some minutes ago
[09:02] <Makaraki> LjL: Firstly I typed mkdir /media/win and then I edit with sudo vim /etc/fstab and put in the last line /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,noauto,ro,uid=1000,nls=utf8 0 0 and also I reboot my machine and when i try to acces to win it doesn't show me anything
[09:02] <NickGarvey> thats what I get when I run apt-get update
[09:02] <mzinz> nickrud, breezy
[09:02] <NickGarvey> it was happening last night too LjL
[09:02] <ahlich> anyone can help me w (another) nvidia driver problem? no tutorials or How-to's have worked for me because my Ubuntu is not recognizing my video card...
[09:02] <LjL> soundray: ugh. big. well, what app is it anyway?
[09:02] <_jason> NickGarvey: and what did it do?  put errors and contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:02] <mzinz> nickrud, ?
[09:03] <l0> general question Iguess...     but.. why arn't things like.. make, and gcc installed by deafault? :|
[09:03] <LjL> Makaraki: try "sudo mount /media/win" and tell me what error it gives (but use the pastebin if it's longer than one line!)
[09:03] <NickGarvey> how would I do that if I don't have a gui?
[09:03] <NickGarvey> oh I know
[09:03] <NickGarvey> apt-get update > ~/error.txt
[09:03] <NickGarvey> ?
[09:03] <name> can anyone help me on setting up terminal
[09:03] <nm> name: what type of terminal?
[09:03] <Gotti> l0, who knows, but just install build-essential and they'll all be installed for you
[09:03] <we2by> hello
[09:03] <_jason> l0: you can install them with build-essential package, average users don't need to compile is the reasoning I believe
[09:03] <name> the terminal that you type commands stuff in
[09:03] <NickGarvey> nope didn't work
[09:03] <l0> gotti: well, I manually installed everything, because I didn't know any better :/
[09:03] <LjL> NickGarvey: even better,  apt-get update 2>&1 >~/error.txt
[09:03] <l0> build-essential eh...
[09:04] <soundray> LjL, it's a program that does registration with 3D images. I'm going to contact the original developer, but I'd like an idea first of how much of a burden I'd be putting on him.
[09:04] <we2by> why isn't there any info for the ubuntu test release on ubuntulinux.com?
[09:04] <eldad> ConfidentiaL: afterwards u should give it execution permissions...
[09:04] <l0> how can I find all these magic names for package groups?
[09:04] <NickGarvey> okie
[09:04] <arnoud> the time is getting near that windows is becoming my biggest fear
[09:04] <nickrud> mzinz, you need xorg-driver-synaptics I believe
[09:04] <l0> thanks jason/gotti
[09:04] <nickrud> mzinz, breezy uses xorg, xfree86 is depreciated
[09:04] <soundray> LjL, thanks for the kind offer btw.
[09:04] <Gotti> np l0
[09:04] <NickGarvey> it is only 7 lines in the file but the entire error is more than a screen long
[09:04] <nickrud> mzinz, you can check what you're using with xdpyinfo
[09:04] <mzinz> nickrud, hang on
[09:05] <l0> is there some 'list' of these 'package group' keywordss, like 'build-essentials' ?
[09:05] <Makaraki> Ljl: ejem ...sorry but I'm a newbie and also spanish what is pastebin?, no problem I will try
[09:05] <we2by> why isn't there any info for the ubuntu test release on ubuntulinux.com?
[09:05] <LjL> Makaraki: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:05] <mzinz> nickrud, well, all of the synaptics how-tos say to get xserver-xfree or whatever... and qsynaptics ( the synaptics settings prog ) says i dont have drivers install
[09:05] <NickGarvey> whoa
[09:05] <NickGarvey> whoa
[09:05] <obscurite> I am ashamed for having ever doubted gnome. Hehe
[09:06] <NickGarvey> no internet I guess?
[09:06] <yggdrasil__> ok guys im trying to make clean but i keep getting g++: no such file or directory
[09:06] <nickrud> mzinz, yeah, the switch to xorg came recently. The instructions should work for either
[09:06] <Makaraki> LjL: thnks
[09:06] <thegladiator> we seem to have big crows these days 711
[09:06] <eldad> yorian: regarding the chars comb - a possible solution is using unicode - ctrl+shift+unicode - ex: ctrl+shift+e7 -> 
[09:06] <mzinz> nickrud, whats my next step..?
[09:06] <thegladiator> sorry crowd
[09:06] <nickrud> mzinz, try apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics
[09:06] <NickGarvey> LjL: would the problem be no internet maybe?
[09:06] <eldad> yorian: not the best but a start
[09:06] <LjL> Makaraki: are you aware there is an #ubuntu-es channel? (i mean, you can stay here as long as you like of course, i'm just telling you so you know)
[09:06] <NickGarvey> yup that was it
[09:06] <NickGarvey> not sure why it didn't auto detect
[09:06] <LjL> NickGarvey: oh :)
[09:07] <NickGarvey> tried to ftp it over to this computer and suddenly it didn't work
[09:07] <NickGarvey> heh
[09:07] <NickGarvey> alright thanks
[09:07] <nickrud> mzinz, then read whatever's in /usr/share/doc/xserver-driver-synaptics
[09:07] <chrome-buntu> Guys, whats the best way to get totem to handle the usual codecs out there?
[09:07] <LjL> !tell chrome-buntu about w32codecs
[09:07] <nickrud> mzinz, er, /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics
[09:07] <thegladiator> chrome-buntu, install totem-xine also besides what Ljl just told
[09:07] <_jason> chrome-buntu: w32codecs and totem-xine
[09:07] <NickGarvey> how would I make it autoconfig eth0 on boot then?
[09:07] <yggdrasil__> ok guys im trying to make clean but i keep getting g++: no such file or directory
[09:08] <NickGarvey> all other distros I have used did that automatically
[09:08] <nickrud> yggdrasil, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:08] <LjL> NickGarvey: well, edit /etc/network/interface i guess... but if you have DHCP, it should work by itself
[09:08] <soundray> LjL, so you're saying that in general, well-designed programs should be easy to port, correct?
[09:08] <chrome-buntu> thanks guys
[09:08] <linux_learner> is there a howto for upgrading the ubuntu kernel
[09:08] <NickGarvey> I do have dhcp, which is why I was confused
[09:08] <yggdrasil__> nickrud allready the newest version
[09:08] <LjL> soundray: i'd say so
[09:08] <linux_learner> are there any special tips, or does apt take care of it
[09:09] <LjL> NickGarvey: well, i would give it another chance (i.e. wait for next reboot) before i start to worry
[09:09] <dutch> hi linux_learner
[09:09] <esac> running flight-4 .. my alps touchpad acceleration and sensitivity is at its highest, yet it is still REALLY slow to move the mouse across the screen, any ideas ?
[09:09] <nickrud> yggdrasil, what are you making clean??
[09:09] <linux_learner> hi dutch
[09:09] <soundray> LjL, grazie.
[09:09] <yggdrasil__> nickrud vdr install
[09:09] <NickGarvey> LjL: the computer is going to be a server so it won't have a monitor, I want to be able to hit the button and have it start the ssh server so I can use it
[09:09] <LjL> soundray: prego :)
[09:09] <soundray> :0
[09:09] <soundray> :)
[09:09] <NickGarvey> LjL: some thing happened last night also, no internet on boot
[09:09] <yggdrasil__> nickrud if i type g++ i get cmd not found
[09:09] <dutch> linux_learner, yeah, just wasted a couple of hours trying to get an old webcam to work
[09:09] <LjL> NickGarvey: yeah, i've got a computer like that
[09:10] <linux_learner> ah ic
[09:10] <LjL> NickGarvey: does your IP actually change? cause if it doesn't, you could just hardcode it -- though the best thing would surely be to find out why DHCP isn't working
[09:10] <name> i can't find the terminal in ubuntu
[09:10] <yggdrasil__> ahh i think i got it ive got g++-4.0 in /usr/bin
[09:10] <nickrud> yggdrasil__, I get 'no input files'
[09:10] <linux_learner> so does apt take care of kernel upgrades?
[09:10] <Makaraki> LjL: mtab error, it sais that it is already mounted in mtab... I don't understand nothing now
[09:10] <NickGarvey> nope, it is  always 192.168.2.37
[09:10] <dutch> linux_learner, and I'll bet if I try to install with the cd in this XP box, it'll say something about being too old :)
[09:10] <mzinz> nickrud, sorry was afk for a sec.  it says i have newest ver. when i apt-get... should i edit  /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics
[09:10] <NickGarvey> this has happened on other computers using ubuntu
[09:10] <yggdrasil__> and i get not input files when i do g++-4.0
[09:10] <NickGarvey> I had damn small linux on the server before and it worked fine
[09:10] <LjL> Makaraki: hm, try "sudo umount /media/win" and then try again
[09:11] <nm> if it is a server, why are you using dhcp
[09:11] <nickrud> mzinz, no, read the docs in that dir, it should tell you what you need to do
[09:11] <NickGarvey> nm: because it needs a router to connect to the internet
[09:11] <linux_learner> well dutch sometimes ya need to recompile the kernel
[09:11] <mzinz> nickrud, ok
[09:11] <NickGarvey> nm: its a web/ftp/ssh server
[09:11] <linux_learner> but with hotplugging, it shouldnt be necissary
[09:11] <nm> nickgarvey: set up a default gateway?
[09:11] <nm> heh
[09:11] <yggdrasil__> nickrud i kinda just cheated and cp /usr/bin/g++-4.0 /usr/bin/g++ and it seems to have worked
[09:12] <LjL> NickGarvey: well, then you could probably just edit /etc/network/interfaces and add "iface eth0 inet static <newline> address <ip>"
[09:12] <dutch> linux_learner, that's way beyond my knowledge base
[09:12] <yggdrasil__> nickrud should i be worried aobut that down the road ?
[09:12] <LjL> NickGarvey: can you paste your current /etc/network/interfaces on the pastebin please
[09:12] <NickGarvey> ok
[09:12] <nickrud> yggdrasil__, probably :)
[09:12] <Gnumannen> !apt-get
[09:12] <ubotu> apt-get is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[09:12] <yggdrasil__> nicrud hahah
[09:12] <_jason> yggdrasil__: installing build-essential should have created g++
[09:12] <yggdrasil__> hmmm
[09:12] <yggdrasil__> _jason ill remove and reinstall i guesse
[09:13] <_jason> yggdrasil__: apt-get install --reinstall build-essential
[09:13] <ConfidentiaL> ok, I had to disable my onboard sound to get past the loading hotplug subsystem. But now, after a while, it gets boring wothout sound. Is there any1 who knows how to fix it so that I can have my sound back?
[09:13] <linux_learner> dutch, hotplugging is the auto detection of hardware
[09:14] <yggdrasil__> _jason i still get cmd not found after i performed that
[09:14] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, throw some money at the problem, buy a USB sound card.
[09:14] <linux_learner> as to recompiling the kernel, just follow a howto
[09:14] <_jason> yggdrasil__: weird
[09:14] <NickGarvey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9061
[09:14] <mzinz> nickrud, i can't find my config files for xorg-driver-synaptics... i just reinstalled it and still no.. and when i 'which xorg-driver-synaptics' i get nothing.
[09:14] <LjL> soundray: would you advise an USB card over a plain PCI one?
[09:14] <Burgwork> ConfidentiaL, likely hotplug is loading the wrong driver. You might need to blacklist a certain driver to get it to work
[09:14] <yggdrasil__> _jason it seems i have g++-4.0 though
[09:14] <eax> WHat do I need to enable in Ubuntu to get my firewall and Gaim to show in the system tray? ALl of a sudden, neither is being displayed and the settings to do so are active in the applications themselves?
[09:14] <nickrud> mzinz, of course. You need to edit xorg.conf to enable synaptics tablet.
[09:14] <Makaraki> LjL: now it works, the next steep is to try if rebooting the ubuntu, fstab should make the mount for me isn't it?
[09:14] <mzinz> nickrud, ohh nvm thanks
[09:15] <esac> running flight-4 .. my alps touchpad acceleration and sensitivity is at its highest, yet it is still REALLY slow to move the mouse across the screen, any ideas ?
[09:15] <dutch> linux_learner, i plugged the webcam in and re-booted...
[09:15] <LjL> Makaraki: it should in theory
[09:15] <dutch> lsusb shows the webcam there...
[09:15] <lnx_> is there anyway to give a user premanent root privledges?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> LjL: my router has dhcp enabled incase that wasn't obvious
[09:15] <linux_learner> and dutch ?
[09:15] <ConfidentiaL> Burgwork : Do you know how to do that?
[09:15] <Kyral> lnx_: no
[09:15] <soundray> LjL, I've had good (read: plug and play) experiences with USB sound. But if I knew that someone wasn't afraid of opening the case, I'd still suggest PCI over USB.
[09:15] <Kyral> lnx_: if there was we wouldn't ttell you
[09:15] <nickrud> mzinz, a useful tool is dpkg -L xorg-driver-synaptics (or any other package)
[09:15] <Makaraki> LjL: I will try and tnanks for your help
[09:15] <mzinz> nickrud, wheres the config file? i see files inside that dir but none of them say config
[09:15] <Burgwork> ConfidentiaL, sorry, no. I would google the make of your soundcard and ubuntu and see if you get a hit
[09:15] <Kyral> More people with Root power on a system is like more countries with the Bomb
[09:16] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, what sound chip is on your board?
[09:16] <nickrud> mzinz, no, the config file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Your howto should be adaptable to that file
[09:16] <lnx_> Kyral: do you know why when i am prompted for root password and i put it in, the application won't launch (i.e. wifi radar, users and groups, etc.)
[09:16] <nm> NickGarvey, I placed an amendment
[09:16] <nm> on that thread
[09:16] <nm> obviously you'll need to replace the address and gatewayt
[09:16] <Kyral> ubotu: tell lnx_ about RootSudo
[09:16] <mzinz> nickrud, shit i gtg ill be back in a min, thank you though
[09:16] <nm> *gateway
[09:16] <LjL> NickGarvey: well, your file looks fine to me. if you aren't the kind of guy who can't do without going to the root of the problem, then i'd simply make it use a static IP :)
[09:16] <we2by> why isn't there any info for the ubuntu test release on ubuntulinux.com?
[09:17] <Kyral> we2by: Because you are not supposed to use it yet?
[09:17] <_keroppi_> I'm trying to install various versions of the fglrx driver, (8.20, 8.21, 8.22) on various versions of the kernel, (2.6.10-5-386  2.6.11-1-686  2.6.12-9-686  2.6.15-14-686  2.6.15-15-686  2.6.15-16-686), and every time I either get a kernel panic in ohci_1394 or ehci_hdc, and when I remove those modules, it still doesn't work, with this log: http://pastebin.com/565544 -- it seems to be looking for all kinds of /dev/dri/card[0-255]  devices...
[09:17] <LjL> soundray: oh, ok :) well opening the case isn't that hard ;)
[09:17] <NickGarvey> alright, I'll do that for now, I'd like to find out whats wrong, but I'll use google for now
[09:17] <NickGarvey> thanks a lot
[09:17] <ConfidentiaL> soundray : Realtek i think...
[09:17] <Kyral> !dapper
[09:17] <ubotu> dapper is, like, totally, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[09:17] <Burgwork> we2by, because it is not recommended for average use, but something could be done better
[09:17] <liskl> anyone know how to create & mount an iso image so you can write to it
[09:17] <_keroppi_> I am remembering to recompile the kernel module for each kernel version, and I am installing the driver with the ati installer.
[09:17] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, is it "high definition audio" or similar?
[09:17] <LjL> NickGarvey: well, one thing - does it *always* fail to get the address from DHCP, or it works sometimes?
[09:17] <Burgwork> _keroppi_, what are you trying to do?
[09:18] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: Get the driver to simply work
[09:18] <ConfidentiaL> soundray : what's that?
[09:18] <Burgwork> _keroppi_, which driver?
[09:18] <yggdrasil__> _jason well i just cp g++-4.0 g++ to get it working ... stupid but its all i can think of
[09:18] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: fglrx
[09:18] <Burgwork> _keroppi_, and wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto didn't work?
[09:18] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: Nope
[09:18] <Burgwork> _keroppi_, what card do you have?
[09:18] <thierry_> french ?
[09:19] <NickGarvey> it works sometimes, I used dhcpclient to connect
[09:19] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, it's a new audio thing. You would probably know if you had a card like that. We had a guy here recently who had similar trouble to yours, and his solution was blacklisting.
[09:19] <NickGarvey> apt-get update worked fine after
[09:19] <fek> this channel is useless
[09:19] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, s/card/soundchip/
[09:19] <obscurite> What's currently the best resource for upgrading your own (more recent) kernel? My notebook's suspend doesn't seem too happy with 2.6.12.
[09:19] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: Radeon 9600 (M10), it works perfectly in debian on kernel 2.6.12, 2.6.11 and 2.6.10
[09:19] <nm> nickgarvey: if your box is a server as you've said
[09:19] <nm> you should use static ip anyway
[09:19] <nm> easier for port forwarding
[09:19] <Burgwork> _keroppi_, I have exactly the 9600xt. What error are you getting?
[09:19] <LjL> NickGarvey: well my guess then is that your router probably implements DHCP in a way that the current version of the client doesn't like too much...
[09:20] <thierry_> french ?
[09:20] <ekp> hi
[09:20] <NickGarvey> yeah, but dhcp gives it the same ip everytime anyway
[09:20] <NickGarvey> alright
[09:20] <nickrud> yggdrasil__, I'd remove that file you copied, then create a soft link to bring your filesystem into compliance with standard policy
[09:20] <LjL> NickGarvey: (by the way, unrelated, but for a server setup, i would use Debian=
[09:20] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: They tend to vary, if they're not kernel panics.
[09:20] <NickGarvey> I'll just use static
[09:20] <NickGarvey> I tried debian before and it didn't work well
[09:20] <ekp> I am having a problem installing Cross Over office
[09:20] <djp> hi. can anyone tell me how i can go about viewing system messages under my e-mail client, evolution?
[09:20] <nm> don't use debian for servers
[09:20] <nm> heh
[09:20] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: Um, it's hard to remember exactly, but if you look at the xorg.log at this paste: http://pastebin.com/565544
[09:20] <amphi> !tell thierry_ about fr
[09:20] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, look, ubotu:
[09:20] <nm> gentoo or fedora core 4 is the way to go
[09:20] <liskl> anyone know how to create & mount an iso image so you can write data files  to it?
[09:20] <NickGarvey> not really sure what happened but I said forget it
[09:20] <soundray> !forumes 75181
[09:20] <ubotu> soundray: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:20] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: It doesn't say anything, but X-windows exits soon after it launches
[09:20] <soundray> !forums 75181
[09:20] <NickGarvey> I'm not smart enough to compile gentoo yet
[09:20] <LjL> nm: aw, come on, debian is fine for servers
[09:20] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 75181 is: Kernel oops on FS Amilo M3438G - Ubuntu Forums
[09:21] <nm> just follow the instructions from the manual
[09:21] <Burgwork> _keroppi_, ok, too odd. You might want to ask on teh forums
[09:21] <ConfidentiaL> !tell me about soundchip
[09:21] <ekp> get error message: can not convert /c to Unix path
[09:21] <Burgwork> _keroppi_, oh, and file a bug
[09:21] <nm> ljl: i'm testing out ubuntu for kicks, and as a server as well
[09:21] <nm> but from what i've seen over the years
[09:21] <LjL> NickGarvey: well i don't think ubuntu will be too bad as a server anyway
[09:21] <amphi> LjL: debian is fine for desktop
[09:21] <nm> while debian has a decent packaging system
[09:21] <ConfidentiaL> !tell me about sound card
[09:21] <nm> the security updates are few and far between
[09:21] <LjL> amphi: i didn't say it wasn't, i just said it was fine for servers
[09:21] <nm> that just isn't good for servers
[09:21] <_keroppi_> Burgwork: I'm going to try again, and document exactly what happens
[09:21] <Wilson> We are the Berg.  You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile.  :-)
[09:21] <ConfidentiaL> !tell me about soundcard
[09:21] <NickGarvey> well if it works it works distribution wise
[09:21] <fangorious> i have an lvm group with my / and swap partitions on it that i'd like to resize to make room for dapper
[09:21] <thierry_> merci amphi
[09:21] <ConfidentiaL> !tell me about sound
[09:22] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75181.html ; it tells you about blacklisting as well as a similar prob.
[09:22] <nm> nickgarvey: perhaps, but with production servers simply 'work'ing isn't always enough
[09:22] <amphi> thierry_: de rien ;)
[09:22] <LjL> nm: uhm, honestly, i hadn't heard complains about debian's security before
[09:22] <nm> ljl: live under a rock? :)
[09:22] <NickGarvey> I'm a 15 year old messing around, not a big problem for me
[09:22] <soundray> ConfidentiaL, don't prod the bot like that btw, do a '/msg ubotu sound' or similar
[09:22] <ConfidentiaL> soundray : thx
[09:22] <NickGarvey> even if I was cracked not like I keep anything important on there
[09:22] <amphi> nm: are you aware of outstanding security issues in debian stable?
[09:23] <nm> amphi: i'm not running it at the moment, or interested
[09:23] <nm> see above
[09:23] <LjL> nm: perhaps, but among the things i've heard people say about debian, bad security is definitely not included... at least it wasn't until now
[09:23] <chrish01> python-dev package isnt downloading right from this server ... http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.4/python2.4-dev_2.4.2-1_i386.deb
[09:23] <drcurl> WOW, what a difference 512 megs of RAM makes instead of 256, Ubuntu is much faster and snapier now :D
[09:23] <NickGarvey> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9063
[09:23] <soundray> NickGarvey, ever heard about zombie networks? You don't want to be part of one, even if you're just messing about.
[09:23] <NickGarvey> LjL: is that what it should be?
[09:23] <Burgwork> chrish01, please try archive.ubuntu.com. the us archive sometimes has issues
[09:23] <amphi> nm: I see nothing above *shrug*
[09:24] <nm> ljl: i'm not directly suggesting that the security is 'bad', but when vulnerabilities are released, debian has one of the longest wait times
[09:24] <nm> for patches
[09:24] <Burgwork> nm, this is not the place to discuss debian security, thanks
[09:24] <soundray> NickGarvey, add the netmask and gateway lines from nm's repost on pastebin.
[09:24] <chrish01> Burgwork: yea, just wanted to inform who ever i could
[09:24] <cowbud> can you share a printer with windows via cups without samba?
[09:24] <nm> burgwork: scroll up and pointlessly say that to others who were asking me questions
[09:24] <nm> thanks.
[09:25] <Burgwork> nm, sorry, didn't see them
[09:25] <NickGarvey> soundray: where is his repost?
[09:25] <soundray> NickGarvey, 9062
[09:25] <nm> cowbud: maybe with proprietary software, but windows talks SMB, and samba is what enables linux to 'talk' SMB
[09:25] <LjL> Nick: no, that's not enough, add a line saying "netmask 255.255.255.0" and another "gateway your-router-ip"
[09:25] <nm> as it were
[09:25] <LjL> NickGarvey: that was for you
[09:25] <ekp> Burgwork: who in chat should I ask about a Cross Over Office installation issue
[09:25] <NickGarvey> alright, thank you
[09:25] <nysosym> HI there :D
[09:26] <NickGarvey> and change address from 10.0.0.150 to 192.168.2.37 right?
[09:26] <Burgwork> ekp, sorry, no idea
[09:26] <djp> can anyone tell me how i can go about viewing system messages with evolution?
[09:26] <nexus> hey, im having prom
[09:26] <nexus> /etc/wlan/shared: line 91: /etc/wlan/shared.*: No such file or directory
[09:26] <soundray> NickGarvey, not for the gateway, unless your server is also the gateway.
[09:26] <nysosym> are any developers from ubuntu here?
[09:27] <nexus> i get this error when starting wlan
[09:27] <nm> soundray: when i modified his pastebin, .150 was the address of the server in question
[09:27] <nm> nickgarvey: change 10.0.0.150 to the desired ip address of your server
[09:27] <nm> and 10.0.0.1 to your gateway (router)
[09:27] <NickGarvey> alright
[09:27] <NickGarvey> thanks
[09:28] <NickGarvey> lets try a reboot then
[09:28] <moritz_> i have a problem installing ubuntu 5.1 on a cebob notebook. After installation and first boot up system freezes straight before hw_random driver is loaded without error message. a likewise error is during bootup with live cd: freezes at hotplug load
[09:29] <moritz_> is there some connection
[09:29] <djp> is a log created anywhere, of an initial install?
[09:30] <moritz_> where does ubuntu place logs?
[09:30] <lakcaj> /var/log
[09:30] <soundray> moritz_, /var/log/ -- e.g. /var/log/syslog
[09:30] <moritz_> ok one moment, ill boot knoppix livecd to view log
[09:30] <soundray> moritz_, it could be an APIC related thing.
[09:31] <lakcaj> djp, try /var/log/installer?
[09:31] <nysosym> i user Gnome X-Chat is it possible to have colored Nicknames? sry for my terrible english ^^
[09:31] <whatwhat> hello
[09:31] <franky123> i've got a question about the desktops. i'm using regular ubuntu (gnome) but i was wondering what happened if i installed the kubuntu and xubuntu packages? someone told me that i can choose which one to use on the login screen if i have all 3 installed ... is that true?
[09:31] <Big`Hades> i fount this site
[09:31] <Big`Hades> ubuntu mirror
[09:31] <djp> lakcaj, thanks
[09:31] <Big`Hades> http://www.septy.web1000.com/index.htm
[09:32] <Big`Hades> but i don't know
[09:32] <Big`Hades> the version
[09:32] <soundray> franky123, that's the way I've got it set up here. No problems so far.
[09:32] <nm> franky123: i havn't used kubuntu, but normally that is the case, yes, if you have more than one window manager installed, your XDM/GDM screen will allow you to choose
[09:32] <soundray> franky123, the packages are called kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <onyx> morning..
[09:32] <franky123> nm, soundray: great, thanks.
[09:33] <eldad> yorian: in case u r still interested in the chars issue check out http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/238 (it worked for me)
[09:33] <lakcaj> nysosym, try #xchat
[09:33] <djp> is it possible to view system messages with my mail client?
[09:34] <purpleheart_USMC> I just got done watching the transporter 2.  great sequel
[09:34] <eldad> !tell me about sound
[09:34] <djp> i used to use local delivery and point it to /var/mail/username or something like that under debian
[09:34] <soundray> djp, it depends on the mail client... but why?
[09:35] <djp> soundray, i wanted to be notified of any system messages. i am using evolution
[09:35] <moritz_> which log in var/log/installer could contain important information about instaallation problems
[09:36] <NickGarvey> static worked like a charm, thank a lot guys
[09:36] <nm> yes yes, no problem
[09:36] <nm> too bad dhcp isn't working
[09:36] <rambo3> how do i install bootsplash in ubuntu
[09:37] <soundray> djp, if it was possible in Debian, I'd say it is possible in Ubuntu.
[09:37] <soundray> djp, you could set up a cron job to email your syslog at regular intervals.
[09:38] <gidgey> having trouble installing the graphics driver for my Intel 810 adapter
[09:38] <gidgey> i have the i810_drv.so file on my desktop
[09:38] <gidgey> don't know what to do with it
[09:38] <gidgey> or where to find support information
[09:38] <TonyB2006> the installer is still freezing for me :`(
[09:39] <soundray> moritz_, try /var/log/installer/syslog
[09:39] <rambo3> why do you have it on Desktop?
[09:39] <^Ocean^> anyone have any experiance with the lircd_modules package ?
[09:39] <akcom> I just installed mod_python (apt-get install libapache2-mod-python) yet when I test it by going to http://localhost/test.py, it simply prompts me to download the file, any suggestions?
[09:40] <moritz_> is there a german ubuntu help chan?
[09:40] <^Ocean^> akcom, restart apache
[09:40] <gidgey> i downloaded it from the fairlite.co.uk website
[09:40] <soundray> !de
[09:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:40] <moritz_> !de
[09:40] <^Ocean^> akcom, and make sure u have the config file setup right
[09:40] <gidgey> i found wget instructions, but the last command doesn't work
[09:40] <akcom> k
[09:40] <mivecz> to compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17..
[09:40] <mivecz> just install al the e17 devs it is not so big...(where  to download it
[09:40] <mivecz> ?
[09:40] <Gnumannen> It looks like I have some basic fonts missing, how can I get them?
[09:41] <Madpilot> Gnumannen: which basic fonts?
[09:41] <Phazeman> hi all. what is the name of the system control panel application ?
[09:41] <mivecz> to compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17..
[09:41] <mivecz> just install al the e17 devs it is not so big...(where  to download it
[09:41] <mivecz> ?
[09:42] <nickrud> gidgey, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose the i810 driver (it's already in X, you don't need the one on your desktop)
[09:42] <joanverde> i need to partition, mount and make a fs on a /dev/sda
[09:42] <Gnumannen> Madpilot: 'fixed' for example...
[09:42] <joanverde> someone?
[09:42] <nm> joanverde: fdisk /dev/sda#
[09:42] <Madpilot> Gnumannen: hmm, Ubuntu ships with several monospaced (fixed) fonts - what's not working?
[09:42] <akcom> ^Ocean^, now it just hangs when I execute the apache script
[09:43] <Bergcube> Gnumannen~  How about telling Synaptic to reinstall ubuntu-desktop?  I cannot /promise/ it'll work, but it is the first idea I get..........
[09:43] <nm> err
[09:43] <nm> fdisk /dev/sda
[09:43] <akcom> (the browser just says it's waiting for localhost)
[09:43] <nm> use 'n' to create a partition
[09:43] <picatta> how do i copy a folder in xterm?
[09:43] <nm> then 'w' to write to the partition table
[09:43] <joanverde> nm ok
[09:43] <nm> then mke2fs -j
[09:43] <Gnumannen> Madpilot: this is dapper flight 4 server, they have messed it up some here
[09:43] <^Ocean^> akcom, somethin else going on then.. not sure ...
[09:43] <akcom> hrm
[09:43] <nm> mke2fs -j /dev/sda#
[09:43] <nickrud> djp, if you haven't already found an answer, you may need to install a mail server (breezy doesn't come with one)
[09:43] <nm> the # is the partition number
[09:43] <nm> and then
[09:43] <nm> mount /dev/sda# /mountpoint
[09:43] <joanverde> n?
[09:43] <Madpilot> Gnumannen: if it's Dapper, file a bug - it is the development release
[09:43] <mivecz> to compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17.. where to get these package?
[09:43] <nm> n, yes, within fdisk
[09:44] <obsvuugj> does anyone know a cool Rayman 1-like game ?
[09:44] <soundray> picatta, 'cp -r'. Also, listen to ubotu:
[09:44] <soundray> !tell picatta about cli
[09:44] <Gnumannen> Madpilot: I have already been told that they know about it
[09:44] <joanverde> nm mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[09:44] <joanverde>        missing codepage or other error
[09:44] <djp> nickrud, ah... thanks. that is my problem then. cheers for that
[09:44] <nickrud> djp, yw
[09:44] <nm> joanverde: did you do mke2fs -j /dev/sda1?
[09:44] <nm> first
[09:45] <Gnumannen> Madpilot: The solution is just package away, but I can not remember which one.
[09:45] <Madpilot> Gnumannen: I don't know much about terminal fonts, just the desktop ones - sorry
[09:45] <joanverde> nm no
[09:45] <nm> do that and then mount it
[09:45] <joanverde> nm I want it fat32
[09:46] <mivecz> to compile e17genmenu , you need the dev packages, from e17.. where to get these package?
[09:46] <joanverde> nm ok
[09:46] <TonyB2006> argh!
[09:46] <Stork> is there any way to configure my sound (i/o port) setup on ubuntu?
[09:46] <nm> joanverde: use windows to format the partition then
[09:46] <nm> now that you've created it
[09:47] <joanverde> nm: windows has crashed
[09:47] <nm> ah
[09:47] <Stork> figures
[09:47] <soundray> Stork, the I/O port is usually something that the BIOS determines.
[09:47] <nm> soundray: on a PnP card that is certainly true
[09:47] <Stork> soundray, i remember there was a tool i used but i can't remember if that was for windows only
[09:47] <obsvuugj> !tell obsvuugj about blender
[09:47] <nm> Stork: otherwise, you can supply an i/o to use as a module option
[09:47] <Stork> it's sound built into my mobo.. realtek ac97
[09:47] <obscurite> Hey guys, I can't find any kernel sources newer than 2.6.12 in my apt-cache search. I'm working off of KernelBuildpackageHowto - anyone have a suggestion for a latest kernel and where to find it?
[09:48] <GTX> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[09:48] <GTX> Please can you read this
[09:48] <Kyral> obscurite: kernel.org?
[09:48] <nickrud> obscurite, kernel.org
[09:48] <joanverde> nm: made the  mke2fs -j /dev/sda1
[09:48] <Stork> lol
[09:48] <obscurite> Okay, kernel.org. Fine, but ... oh nevermind. :P I'll figure it out.
[09:48] <nm> joanverde: that creates an ext3 filesystem
[09:48] <joanverde> what kind of sys did I make?
[09:48] <joanverde> ok
[09:48] <obscurite> THANKS kyral, nickrud.
[09:49] <l0> ah, they're called meta-packages. sigh. I feel so out of the loop
[09:49] <joanverde> nm: so now I can format it somehow?
[09:49] <Stork> is there any way to configure my sound (i/o port) setup on ubuntu? it's built into my mobo.. realtek 97
[09:49] <nickrud> obscurite, yeah, it's suboptimal, but you won't find anything newer in breezy
[09:49] <soundray> Stork, read nm's answer ^^
[09:49] <Madpilot> Stork: assuming it's turned on in your system BIOS, it should work in Ubuntu - I've got an AC'97 chip as well
[09:50] <speyer> Unable to get exclusive lock   whats this mean ?
[09:50] <Kyral> speyer: means something else is using itt (Apt-get yes?)
[09:50] <Stork> well i want to change what the ports do, because i have two sets of speakers
[09:50] <Scarborough> my keyboard sometimes stops working... anybody else that has that problem?
[09:50] <Madpilot> speyer: with apt-get or Synaptic? It probably means you left Synaptic running while you tried to use apt-get
[09:50] <nickrud> speyer, either another program is using whatever's locked, or you have a spurious lock. More info is needed
[09:50] <speyer> Kyral hell yeah ;) cheers its the lock in use yeah :))
[09:51] <Stork> Madpilot, well i want to change what the ports do, because i have two sets of speakers
[09:51] <speyer> thanks all
[09:51] <Kyral> speyer: yah you can't run more than one instance of Apt-Get at once (Apt-Cache you can)
[09:52] <pianoboy3333> how do I find out what my network IP address is?
[09:52] <NickGarvey> ifconfig
[09:52] <pianoboy3333> ah, thx
[09:52] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:53] <franky123> ubotu, tell franky123 about dapperdrake
[09:53] <C_J_Pro> I would like to see the ability to put the IP address on GDM
[09:53] <nm> joanverde: try running fdisk again
[09:53] <nm> hit 't' for change type
[09:53] <nm> and 'c' for vfat
[09:53] <Madpilot> Stork: sorry, I'm not sure how to do that - more BIOS settings, maybe?
[09:53] <nm> (though it may be different, i havn't looked at it in awhile
[09:53] <nysosym> brb (restart)
[09:53] <nm> )
[09:53] <nm> joanverde: and then try mkfs -vfat /dev/sda1
[09:54] <nm> err
[09:54] <nm> mkfs -t vfat
[09:54] <nm> sorry
[09:54] <joanverde> nm: ok
[09:55] <Malachi> Is it just me, or is the Linux version of Nvu a little buggy?
[09:55] <joanverde> nm: mkfs.ext2: invalid fragment size - at
[09:55] <Madpilot> Malachi: it's a WYSIWYG, aren't they all buggy? :P
[09:55] <joanverde> ok
[09:55] <andrea_> sasaasasasaas
[09:55] <nm> joanverde: try mkfs.vfat /dev/sda#
[09:56] <Malachi> Madpilot:Hm....
[09:56] <joanverde> nm :mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[09:56] <nm> (where # is the number of the partition)
[09:56] <joanverde> mkfs.vfat: /dev/sda contains a mounted file system.
[09:56] <curley_sue> HELP - does anybody know how to start SKYPE as AWAY (automatically)?
[09:56] <andrea_> di cosa parlate?
[09:56] <nm> sorry, unmount it first
[09:56] <nm> hehe
[09:56] <andrea_> parlate solo di Ubuntu?
[09:56] <soundray> !it
[09:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:56] <andrea_> ok bye
[09:57] <joanverde> nm: hiw-to unmount?
[09:57] <joanverde> how
[09:57] <relachs> can you help me to re-install the Audio-Recorder? It does not work correctly anymore
[09:57] <nm> wow
[09:57] <hannje> umount
[09:57] <nm> joanverde: umount
[09:57] <speyer> any ideea why the sound on mplayer its interrupted   ?
[09:57] <joanverde> ok
[09:57] <joanverde> umount /dev/sda#
[09:57] <hannje> if you want to unmount a cdrom type eject
[09:57] <joanverde> nm: done
[09:57] <soundray> speyer, run mplayer -ao help and try different ao options (audio output)
[09:57] <nm> so try the mkfs.vfat again
[09:58] <yggdrasil__> does anyone here knwo about dfb++ on ubuntu ?
[09:58] <joanverde> nm: done, seemed to work, now I need to see it somehow
[09:58] <nm> joanverde: mount it again
[09:58] <soundray> curley_sue, timing out is not good enough?
[09:58] <Madpilot> !mount
[09:58] <joanverde> ok
[09:58] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:58] <joanverde> nm: on /mnt, /home ot whereever?
[09:58] <lakcaj> speyer, try with -ao alsa -vo xv
[09:59] <nm> joanverde: just make sure you're not mounting it on a directory you're already using
[09:59] <joanverde> nm: mounted on home
[09:59] <joanverde> ok
[09:59] <nm> mkdir /mnt/windows ; mount /dev/sda# /mnt/windows
[09:59] <nysosym> re
[09:59] <nm> might be a good idea
[09:59] <nm> after you umount /home
[09:59] <joanverde> nm: good
[09:59] <speyer> lakcaj it does use alsa but not xv its use X11 even if i tell mplayer to, no ideea why
[10:00] <curley_sue> soundray: I'm not sure I understand...
[10:01] <soundray> curley_sue, you can go to Tools-Options and set the time until it shows you as "Away".
[10:01] <joanverde> nm: mounted and ready
[10:01] <joanverde> how do I see it now?
[10:01] <nm> joanverde: what do you mean 'see' it?
[10:01] <nm> if it is mounted, you're seeing it
[10:01] <nm> at wherever you have it mounted
[10:01] <nm> if you mean list the contents, you can do that with 'ls'
[10:01] <nm> but since you've newly created it
[10:01] <joanverde> nm: in the gui
[10:01] <nm> there won't be much there ;)
[10:02] <rambo3> can someone post line from menu.lst after kernel : something like vesfb ~
[10:02] <nm> joanverde: use your favorite file manager program
[10:02] <franky123> joanverde: go to nautilus?
[10:02] <joanverde> is that part of gnome
[10:02] <relachs> has anyone experience with K3B?
[10:02] <soundray> relachs, a bit.
[10:02] <Madpilot> joanverde: Places menu --> Home - the app that launches is Nautilus
[10:02] <vlauzums> quick question: every time i switch wifi networks i have to restart to get it to work, is there a terminal command that refreshes my net settings or something like that?
[10:02] <joanverde> see it now
[10:03] <GTX> If you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[10:03] <joanverde> thanks very much
[10:03] <GTX> I need help!
[10:03] <GTX> :D
[10:03] <achew22_> can someone help me with an apt-get question
[10:03] <soundray> vlauzums, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:03] <soundray> vlauzums, and consider the ifplug package
[10:03] <vlauzums> soundray: thank you
[10:03] <vlauzums> ifplug?
[10:03] <soundray> !info ifplug
[10:04] <nickrud> achew22_, ask, maybe you'll get lucky ;)
[10:04] <vlauzums> !info ifplug
[10:04] <curley_sue> soundray: thanx, but somehow it does not work...
[10:04] <relachs> soundray, first it said it needs cdrdao, so installed the package with success. Now it says this: http://pastebin.com/565641
[10:04] <soundray> !info ifplugd
[10:04] <ubotu> ifplugd: (A configuration daemon for ethernet devices), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.26-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[10:04] <soundray> sry vlauzums
[10:04] <rambo3> comon it doesnt take you that much time : sudo cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep ves
[10:04] <MuLLeR> hello
[10:04] <vlauzums> np.
[10:04] <speyer> does anyone know why my mplayer use x11 instead of xv ? even if i tell mplayer to use xv , when i play the file its still use x11 :(
[10:04] <soundray> curley_sue, it waits until you are inactive (ie. not using the mouse and keyboard)
[10:05] <relachs> in the "K3B Setup" i do not find anything related to the thing i need to fix
[10:05] <nickrud> speyer, try xdpyinfo | grep XVideo ; that will tell you if you at least have xv support
[10:05] <achew22_> will someone look at http://pastebin.com/565644 ?
[10:05] <soundray> relachs, are you on breezy?
[10:05] <relachs> soundray, yes
[10:06] <curley_sue> soundray: well, I wanted something that did not need me off the computer... thanx anyway
[10:06] <soundray> relachs, strange, I used to have to set cdrdao permissions, but never on breezy.
[10:06] <moonunit> hey ive got an error running update, 'the following problems were found on your system'
[10:06] <speyer> nickrud output " XVideo
[10:06] <speyer>  "
[10:07] <soundray> curley_sue, it's something you can ask Skype support.
[10:07] <NCLife> i got a problem with my ipod. It mount well but when i try to safe some songs into my computer, it disconnects after some while and cant mount it again. I must pull it out and reconnect it
[10:07] <babyboy> Hey where can i get some ubuntu themes?
[10:07] <achew22_> can someone help me with an apt problem? http://pastebin.com/565644
[10:07] <gnomefreak> achew22_: in your source.list file do you have a dcrom repo enabled?
[10:07] <achew22_> gnomefreak,  I do
[10:07] <ricardo_> how can use ascii characters in linux?
[10:07] <achew22_> gnomefreak,  should I turn it off?
[10:07] <rambo3> you are using the right now
[10:08] <gnomefreak> achew22_: if you want those packages you need to put a # infront of it and take the # away from the rest of the repos
[10:08] <speyer> nickrud its that ok ?
[10:08] <we2by> can u enable window shadow on ubuntu?
[10:08] <relachs> soundray, hmmm... it says its highly recommended... what should i do now?
[10:08] <babyboy> can anyone tell me where i can get some ubuntu themes??
[10:08] <Burgwork> babyboy, art.gnome.org or art.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <soundray> relachs, I'll look at my setup here, give me three minutes.
[10:09] <gnomefreak> babyboy: try art.gnome.org or www.gnome-look.com
[10:09] <curley_sue> soundray: u r write only it does not appear in their manual/FAQ/google... (as far as I tried)
[10:09] <babyboy> thanks, Burgwork
[10:09] <relachs> ok
[10:09] <bjornkri> hey hey
[10:09] <nickrud> speyer, phone
[10:09] <vlauzums> !info ifplugd
[10:09] <ubotu> ifplugd: (A configuration daemon for ethernet devices), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.26-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[10:09] <Madpilot> !themes
[10:09] <Madpilot> !tell babyboy about themes
[10:09] <speyer> nickrud phone ?
[10:09] <^Ocean^> is it poosible to change the Ubuntu pic that I see when booting up ?
[10:09] <achew22_> gnomefreak, thankyou -- I hope this works
[10:09] <nickrud> on phone a sec
[10:10] <GTX> If you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[10:10] <ricardo_> how can i use ascii in linux ubuntu? please help me
[10:10] <Madpilot> ^Ocean^: yes it is - just a sec, I'll find you a URL
[10:10] <rambo3> ocean boot or grub?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> achew22_: sudo apt-get update first
[10:10] <babyboy> Ocean yes it is go into the system admiistration
[10:10] <babyboy> then login screen
[10:10] <^Ocean^> rambo3, i think its grub im running...  what ever came stalk with Breezy
[10:10] <bjornkri> I've been running Ubuntu for 24 hours now and so far so good. Except for one thing: my internet connection seems noticably slower on Ubuntu than it did on Windoes (same computer). Is this a known thing with Linux/Ubuntu, or might there be some settings I need to tweak?
[10:11] <achew22_> gnomefreak, no dice -- http://pastebin.com/565664
[10:11] <soundray> achew22_, did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[10:11] <Madpilot> ^Ocean^: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/EyeCandyBreezy
[10:12] <achew22_> soundray, yes I did... 2 times
[10:12] <^Ocean^> Madpilot, thx mate
[10:12] <rambo3> ok thats easy just pick up some picuters from http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php  and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29
[10:12] <gnomefreak> achew22_: give me 1 sec
[10:12] <Madpilot> ^Ocean^: this page is more specific to what you want: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy
[10:12] <ricardo_> how can i use ascii?
[10:12] <bjornkri> No one?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> achew22_: can you paste your sources.list file on pastebin please
[10:12] <_0331_USMC> Can someone tell me how to add fonts in linux?
[10:13] <Madpilot> !fonts
[10:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[10:13] <Madpilot> _0331_USMC: ^^^
[10:13] <r4ygtr> sup people
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _0331_USMC about fonts
[10:13] <soundray> relachs, sorry, I can't get k3bsetup to work here.
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu thanks
[10:13] <ubotu> pas de quoi, gnomefreak
[10:13] <r4ygtr> does anyone know the plugin directory to play mp3's in ubuntu
[10:13] <_0331_USMC> Madpilot: Thanks
[10:14] <bjornkri> !IPv6
[10:14] <ubotu> bjornkri: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:14] <achew22_> whoevver asked for it http://pastebin.com/565669 is my sources.list
[10:14] <relachs> soundray :-\
[10:14] <Madpilot> !tell r4ygtr about mp3
[10:14] <rambo3> !freevo
[10:14] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[10:14] <soundray> relachs, try chmod u+s /usr/bin/cdrdao (note this is a security risk)
[10:14] <achew22_> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/565669 is my sources.list
[10:14] <gnomefreak> ty achew22_ im gonna look at it
[10:14] <lampshade> so is there now no package called w32codecs or...?
[10:14] <thepenguin> Im just wondering: Ubuntu will only let me choose three resolutions 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480, even though on my windows i have more. I installed the linux nvidia drivers but it didnt do anything. Anyone know whast my problem is?
[10:14] <Kyral> lampshade: not in our repos
[10:15] <soundray> relachs, you'll need sudo for it.
[10:15] <joanverde> how do I change the permissions so that I can move anything from one place to another?
[10:15] <joanverde> without interupting in GUI mode
[10:15] <thepenguin> anyone know anything?
[10:15] <soundray> ubotu, tell thepenguin about fixres
[10:15] <markus> Im having issues with setting the senstivity of my track pad
[10:16] <thepenguin> my graphics card is nvidia gforce fx 5200 with 128mb of ram
[10:16] <lampshade> Kyral, not even in all the extra ones?
[10:16] <rambo3> sudo mv
[10:16] <relachs> soundray, i will try to burn a cd then without changing anything
[10:16] <markus> has anyone got some ideas where I should be looking?
[10:16] <lampshade> Kyral, universe, multi, etc?
[10:16] <nickrud> speyer, still around?
[10:16] <Madpilot> joanverde: if you're talking about the stuff in / (root or 'filesystem'), you'll break your install if you mess with permissions that badly. You don't own that stuff, the system does.
[10:16] <Kyral> lampshade: none of them
[10:16] <speyer> nickrud yes
[10:16] <achew22_> what is fixres?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> achew22_: hold on ill give you one to replace yours.
[10:16] <soundray> !fixres
[10:16] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <achew22_> gnomefreak, thankyou so much
[10:16] <bjornkri> markus, this worked for me: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[10:16] <joanverde> Madpilot: so what shall I do if I want to move things from sdb1 to sda1?
[10:16] <hardstyl0r> gn8..
[10:16] <nickrud> speyer, you're sure that mplayer -vo xv <file> isn't using xvideo then?
[10:16] <Biggi> sup?
[10:17] <soundray> relachs, it's only unsafe if there are untrusted users on your system.
[10:17] <bjornkri> can't guarantee the same will for you, but do check it out :)
[10:17] <speyer> nickrud ill try it one more time
[10:17] <Madpilot> joanverde: that, you can change - just change the permissions on the mount points
[10:17] <markus> bjornkri: thanks
[10:17] <lampshade> Kyral, so is your only choice to build them from source or what?  What happened.  They used to be in the repos weren't they?
[10:17] <joanverde> Madpilot: and how do I do that? I'm not that skilled :p
[10:17] <sorush20> Biggi: not much just a fw other new members added to community
[10:17] <Biggi> :D
[10:17] <Biggi> nice
[10:18] <shenshei> hi, do you know if it's possible to install an ubuntu with a sata cd-rom
[10:18] <gnomefreak> achew22_: try this in place of yours
[10:18] <rewt_> how do i extract a .bin file?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:18] <Madpilot> !tell joanverde about mount
[10:18] <rewt_> I mean .tar
[10:18] <Biggi> shenshei, try? :/
[10:18] <rewt_> not .bin
[10:18] <Yokalosh> how can i defrag my fat32 mp4 player in ubuntu?
[10:18] <Biggi> what irc clients do you guys use?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> rewt_: tar -xvfz file.tar.gz
[10:18] <shenshei> yep but it's for a friend and he don't want burn a disc for nothing
[10:18] <NCLife> i put this on etc/fstab "/dev/ipod /mnt/ipod vfat user,noauto,umask=000 0 0" and tryied with sudo mount dev/ipod but i got this error "rong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ipod,
[10:18] <NCLife>  missing codepage or other error
[10:18] <NCLife> "
[10:19] <nickrud> speyer, I'm no expert on mplayer; the only way I know to check is x11 won't go full screen, xv does. That may be simplistic
[10:19] <Biggi> shenshei, oh no dont let him waste away $1 :O
[10:19] <treakath> hey all
[10:19] <yggdrasil__> so im trying ot compile up a source i got dfb++ i do ./configure then make ?
[10:19] <shenshei> :)
[10:19] <speyer> nickrud have a look here please http://pastebin.com/565688
[10:19] <nickrud> NChief, try -t vfat
[10:19] <Biggi> btw. anyone got a suggestion on how to make kde start at boot? ;|~
[10:19] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: yes
[10:19] <yggdrasil__> and then its done ?
[10:19] <bjornkri> no one else having problems with a slow internet connection on Ubuntu? It's noticably slower on my brand new Ubuntu installation than it was on the previous Windows installation...
[10:19] <Biggi> it wont start.. i have to log in and do "startx" each time :P
[10:19] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: than make install or checkinstall
[10:19] <nickrud> NChief, ignore me, I can't read well sometimes
[10:20] <bjornkri> I've no idea even where to start trying to fix it
[10:20] <speyer> nickrud looks like its using x11 thats what the output says, and also first time i run mplayer , it dint work in full screen mode , i had to add zoom=yes ;)
[10:20] <soundray> Yokalosh, back it up to hard disk, format, and write the files back. No better and safer way to defrag.
[10:20] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: i perfer checkinstall as do most people that i know of
[10:20] <yggdrasil__> gnome freak and how will i know it did it ?
[10:20] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:~$ tar -xvfz /home/rewt/Music/ Relient K-Two Lefts Dont Make A Right But Three Do.tar
[10:20] <rewt_> tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:20] <rewt_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:20] <rewt_> Got that
[10:20] <Yokalosh> soundray: it takes 5 hours each way to copy the files :(
[10:21] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: the reason for checkinstall is it checks the install ygg it will tell you weather it did it or not
[10:21] <NChief> nickrud: ok :D
[10:21] <yggdrasil__> gnomefreak just type checkinstall ?
[10:21] <soundray> Yokalosh, do it overnight, then.
[10:21] <Yokalosh> okily dokily
[10:21] <RichART1> how long does i usually take to install ubuntu?
[10:21] <relachs> soundray, ok, did it, i typed sudo before the chmod command but he did not ask me for a password, but now the message from K3B does not appear anymore
[10:21] <gnomefreak> rewt_: did you cd to where the tar file is?
[10:21] <sorush20> rewt_: why don't you use archive manger?
[10:21] <Yokalosh> hope this is done by the time i need to go to school!
[10:21] <Yokalosh> thnx soundray
[10:21] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: sudo apt-get install checkinstall first
[10:21] <yggdrasil__> yea got iti
[10:21] <yggdrasil__> hehe
[10:21] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: the command is sudo checkinstall
[10:22] <soundray> relachs, you had probably used sudo before and the passwd was still in memory. Anyway, I expect it'll work now.
[10:22] <Yokalosh> soundray: wait, isnt it the files that are on the drive that need to be defragmented in the first place?
[10:22] <nickrud> speyer, that is odd, I've never had mplayer not use xv when I told it to. I guess I'm in over my head here.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> achew22_: did that fix it?
[10:22] <soundray> Yokalosh, no, it's the arrangement of the files on the drive.
[10:22] <yggdrasil__> gnomefreak whoa i did something
[10:22] <achew22_> gnomefreak, sorry, I didn't see the link
[10:22] <eedge> Ack!
[10:22] <Yokalosh> soundray: okay thnx
[10:22] <gnomefreak> achew22_: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:22] <soundray> Yokalosh, are you sure you need to defrag anyway?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: what did you do?
[10:22] <eedge> Problem, installed XP and I've killed grub
[10:23] <speyer> nickrud hell yeah thats` why im here :)
[10:23] <yggdrasil__> gnomefreak it did it and then put a pkg somwheres ?
[10:23] <nickrud> speyer, lol
[10:23] <eedge> trying to reinstall grub with grub-install and getting this error:
[10:23] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ tar -xvfz Relient\ K-Two\ Lefts\ Dont\ Make\ A\ Right\ But\ Three\ Do.tar
[10:23] <rewt_> tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:23] <rewt_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:23] <yggdrasil__> gnomefreak so now i just install the pkg it made ?
[10:23] <eedge> the file /boot/grub/stage1  was not read correctly.
[10:23] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: you should have a .deb package
[10:23] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: you shouldnt have to install it thats what checkinstall does
[10:23] <yggdrasil__> sudo dpkg-install .deb ?
[10:23] <relachs> soundray, ok, here is a screen anyway http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7945/k3bsetup3sp.png
[10:23] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: what did you compile?
[10:24] <yggdrasil__> DFB++-0.9.22
[10:24] <relachs> would not know how to set it so it works vis This gui form
[10:24] <soundray> relachs, yeah, I know, I got this on Debian all the time.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: look in your menu for it im not sure what that is but its installed already if you ran checkinstall
[10:24] <yggdrasil__> im doing console
[10:24] <yggdrasil__> in
[10:24] <yggdrasil__> um
[10:24] <yggdrasil__> ok ill see what i can do here
[10:25] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil__: ok try running it in console
[10:25] <rewt_> gnomefreak, any idea why I'm getting that error?
[10:25] <rewt_> I cd'd into the folder its in?
[10:25] <nickrud> eedge, are you using  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:25] <yggdrasil__> actualy i think this is what somone was trying to do the other day ... play video from console
[10:25] <rewt_> gnomefreak, used tab to finish it
[10:25] <joanverde> in mount what do you call a hfs+ fs?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> rewt_: yes your not cd'ed into the dir that the tar is saved in
[10:25] <yggdrasil__> direct frame buffer something or other
[10:25] <rewt_> gnomefreak, yes I am
[10:25] <cunter> hi, does anybody know how to get the ati remote working ?
[10:26] <rewt_> gnomefreak, rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ tar -xvfz Relient\ K-Two\ Lefts\ Dont\ Make\ A\ Right\ But\ Three\ Do.tar
[10:26] <rewt_> tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:26] <rewt_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:26] <soundray> joanverde, hfsplus
[10:26] <Stuar1> Sorry for what may seem like a stupid question, but does Ubuntu ship with a firewall?
[10:26] <rewt_> It's in a folder called Music
[10:26] <NCLife> what must i change to be able to mount my ipod. Im getting this error -> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ipod,
[10:26] <nickrud> rewt_, try xvzf
[10:26] <NCLife> NCLife missing codepage or other error
[10:26] <rewt_> Which I'm at,
[10:26] <joanverde> soundray: thx
[10:26] <sorush20> rewt_: just try to see if you can use the archive manager from genome gui..
[10:26] <akcom> I'm having trouble making python scripts executable in apache2, I have my config file set, but I believe its wrong, can anyone take a look and see if you find anything blatantly wrong? http://pastebin.com/565699
[10:26] <gnomefreak> rewt_: is it a tar.gz or tar.bz?
[10:26] <NCLife> what could it be
[10:26] <relachs> anyone know how to set the console so it looks more like a hacker environment, like the background is transparent etc? lol..
[10:26] <LinuxJones> Stuar1: iptables but if you want a gui install firestarter
[10:26] <ConfidentiaL> After I have blacklisted the sound thing in the hotplug booting, am I then still able to get sound in linux?
[10:26] <rewt_> just .tar
[10:27] <gnomefreak> relachs: try current profile in the terminal menus
[10:27] <rewt_> rewt@ubuntu:~/Music$ tar -xvzf Relient\ K-Two\ Lefts\ Dont\ Make\ A\ Right\ But\ Three\ Do.tar
[10:27] <rewt_> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[10:27] <rewt_> tar: Child returned status 1
[10:27] <rewt_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[10:27] <rewt_> Tht's error after new command
[10:27] <nickrud> rewt_, no pasting please, then xvf (no z, that's a bz2 file)
[10:27] <gnomefreak> rewt_: please dont paste in here
[10:27] <tsw> rewt_: dont paste here, take z of the options
[10:27] <LinuxJones> Stuar1: do you know how to install software in Ubuntu ?
[10:27] <Stuar1> Thanks LinuxJones. And one last thing. Where is the TCL stuff located?
[10:27] <Burgwork> relachs, in gnome-terminal, go to edit profile. Under the effects tab, choose transparent background
[10:27] <Angel_Dex> Hello why cant i mount my Floppy drive i get a UDI error
[10:28] <LinuxJones> Stuar1: tcl ?
[10:28] <relachs> yea, ok i got it :)
[10:28] <paxmaster> is there a thing that save my session if i shutdown or reboot my computer I want to save it. If i login as my username the application would come up
[10:28] <rewt_> where does the music go to?
[10:28] <LinuxJones> Stuar1:  too many acronyms, I don't know what that stands for  :P
[10:28] <paxmaster> just like in kde
[10:28] <soundray> paxmaster, System-Preferences-Sessions
[10:28] <nickrud> paxmaster, system->prefs->session
[10:29] <soundray> nickrud, beat you :)
[10:29] <paxmaster> thanks
[10:29] <nickrud> soundray, not here ;P
[10:29] <gnomefreak> rewt_: its gonna extract it in same file that you are cd'ed into
[10:30] <gnomefreak> achew22_: did you try the new ones?
[10:30] <Angel_Dex> !firefox1.5
[10:30] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:30] <nickrud> paxmaster, respawn for gnome apps under current session, and you can add apps to startup
[10:30] <Angel_Dex> <.<
[10:30] <Stuar1> LinuxJones. I am trying to get UnrealIRCD to work. I complied it and have it working fine within my home network. I am considering putting it on-line but was worried about Firewall... I will get a new one. I need TCL for Eggdrop and was wondering where it is located in Ubuntu. It is shown as being installed in Synapatic but it can not find it when I go to compile. TCL = Tool Command Language
[10:30] <achew22_> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/565669 will you look at that?
[10:31] <paxmaster> yeah I want my application to save such like the pids
[10:31] <LinuxJones> Stuar1: you can do whereis or locate tcl in a terminal
[10:31] <SamStone> a question about X Server in general: I have two PCs here, and I want to use a program, that runs on the first computer, on the second computer. I know that I have to change the $DISPLAY variable for this, but I don't know more about this. any ideas?
[10:31] <rad4Christ> Hi guys!
[10:31] <gnomefreak> achew22_: ive pasted a new sources.list for you 2 times would you please replace yours with the new one
[10:31] <ConfidentiaL> How do I get those skins to the terminal? I have just got the default one...
[10:31] <paxmaster> thanks I will check on it
[10:31] <achew22_> I did... gnomefreak
[10:32] <cradek> SamStone: ssh -X othermachine
[10:32] <gnomefreak> not what im looking at you didnt
[10:32] <cradek> SamStone: then just run your application
[10:32] <rad4Christ> Again, thanks alot for all the help today. I now have my first Linux based machine installed and running as the fileserver on our network!
[10:32] <LinuxJones> Stuar1: I have never used tcl, sorry I can't tell you exactly where to find it
[10:32] <nickrud> achew22_, you need to do apt-get update to read your new sources.list then
[10:32] <Stuar1> LinuxJones. How would I do that exactly... I am not any good with the terminal commands.
[10:32] <gnomefreak> the link you gave me is still the old one
[10:32] <relachs> what do i need to download in order to extract .RAR archives?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> !rar
[10:32] <ubotu> hmm... rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[10:32] <bjornkri> !rar
[10:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell relachs about rar
[10:32] <nickrud> relachs, rar-nonfree
[10:32] <bjornkri> ehe
[10:33] <_jason> unrar-nonfree you mean
[10:33] <joanverde> how should I interpet this: chgrp: changing group of `/mnt/windows': Operation not permitted
[10:33] <LinuxJones> Stuar1: jusut type whereis tcl or locate tcl and press enter
[10:33] <relachs> ok :D
[10:33] <Stuar1> LinuxJones. Thanks
[10:33] <cradek> !Xgl
[10:33] <rad4Christ> But I have two more things I need assistance with. 1: When I reboot, my second hard drive is unmounted, and I have to manually remount it. Is there a way to fix this?
[10:33] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:33] <soundray> relachs, wei doch jeder ;)
[10:33] <nickrud> relachs, whups, that one's gone in ubuntu breezy, sorry
[10:33] <LinuxJones> Stuar1: Have fun :)
[10:33] <_jason> rad4Christ: put it in fstab
[10:33] <Flosoft> is there a Synaptic clone for the console?
[10:33] <_jason> rad4Christ: what filesystem?
[10:33] <nickrud> Flosoft, aptitude
[10:33] <SamStone> cradek: the application says then: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[10:33] <rad4Christ> 2: I need a script to place on the desktop to run rsync with selected parameters
[10:34] <rad4Christ> _jason, on 1: it's a ext2 FS.
[10:34] <nickrud> Flosoft, although, the clone concept is backwards
[10:34] <rad4Christ> Can you help me on how to add to fstab?
[10:34] <rad4Christ> !fstab
[10:34] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[10:34] <resueman> anyone interested in helping me out with samba
[10:34] <achew22_> gnomefreak, will you look at the one I replaced it with? http://pastebin.com/565725
[10:34] <resueman> i dont know where to start
[10:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell rad4Christ about fstab
[10:34] <nm> resueman: the place to start is the documentation
[10:34] <soundray> resueman, start with ubotu's advice:
[10:34] <nickrud> !Xgl
[10:34] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:34] <nm> www.google.com
[10:35] <soundray> !tell resueman about samba
[10:35] <nm> there are several install guides
[10:35] <rad4Christ> Got it _jason
[10:35] <nickrud> hm, time for flight 4 then. bye.
[10:35] <rad4Christ> But what about 2?
[10:35] <rad4Christ> The script.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> achew22_: thats not the one i gave you  take the us. part out of them
[10:35] <rad4Christ> I need the equivalent to a .BAT file in WIndows
[10:35] <resueman> soun: thans
[10:35] <achew22_> gnomefreak, didn't you point me to the apt sources generator?
[10:35] <relachs> hmm do i only need to install unrar-nonfree if im on breezy?
[10:36] <gnomefreak> achew22_: after taking the us. out of them sudo apt-get update than try to isntall what youve been trying
[10:36] <gnomefreak> achew22_: i was posed to give you the list
[10:36] <bjornkri> rad4Christ, just make a textfile with the lines you want to execute, and then make the textfile executable
[10:36] <joanverde> how should I interpet this: chgrp: changing group of `/mnt/windows': Operation not permitted
[10:36] <bjornkri> kinda
[10:36] <gnomefreak> achew22_: hold on let me put it on pastebin
 eedge, are you using  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:37] <soundray> joanverde, you shouldn't. Just run 'sudo chgrp ...'
[10:37] <moritz_> some fast mirrors for dapper drake?
[10:37] <bjornkri> rad4Christ, try something like http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
[10:37] <eedge> I think I've tried everything on that page now.
[10:37] <eedge> To no avail.
[10:37] <bjornkri> It's a fun read :P
[10:37] <joanverde> soundray: ok
[10:37] <joanverde> I'll try again
[10:37] <blueboy> is it possible to change default language ( english ) to some other language and how ? Language settings doesn't help me at all !!
[10:37] <gnomefreak> achew22_: http://pastebin.com/565732
[10:37] <soundray> joanverde, but I suspect it won't work anyway. Look into the umask mount option (man mount)
[10:38] <vincent_> hey
[10:38] <vincent_> guys can anyone help me with Ubuntu, total noob here. I need to connect through a wireless network. I can see my SSID in terminal but I cant find the right syntax to connect
[10:38] <bjornkri> !language
[10:38] <soundray> joanverde, you probably want umask=222 or similar.
[10:38] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bjornkri
[10:38] <joanverde> soundray: you are correct, doesn't work
[10:38] <bjornkri> Worth a shot...
[10:38] <gnomefreak> i will brb need to reboot
[10:38] <joanverde> soundray: which is?
[10:38] <soundray> joanverde, listen to ubotu:
[10:38] <soundray> !tell joanverde about ntfs
[10:38] <rad4Christ> bjornkri, thanks, but I was hoping I could just tell someone my command line needs, and they could send me what to put in the file?
[10:39] <rad4Christ> I'm so strained mentally, I don't think I can attempt anymore today :P
[10:39] <joanverde> soundray: why should I know this, has this to do with permissions?
[10:39] <rad4Christ> This is what I need in Desktop Icon format: sudo rsync -ur --progress /media/FileServer /media/usbdisk
[10:40] <achew22_> gnomefreak, you there?
[10:40] <soundray> joanverde, umask is for making a mounted Windows filesystem read/writable for users.
[10:40] <rad4Christ> I created an .sh file with that in it, but it does nothing
[10:40] <joanverde> soundray: ok
[10:40] <LinuxJones> rad4Christ: can you put that command into a cron job to run every hour or whatever ?
[10:41] <joanverde> soundray: so I should try to make a umask command to make it write/readeble, actually my fs is fat32 which is already readeble by itself
[10:41] <_jason> rad4Christ: did you remember the shebang line?
[10:41] <rad4Christ> LinuxJones, nope, but I got it!
[10:41] <rad4Christ> Thanks!
[10:41] <rad4Christ> I just added a $ Backup Line, an echo line, and boom, it works.
[10:42] <Silivrenion> does ubuntu have lvm support during install?
[10:42] <rad4Christ> SO, after many headaches, frustrations, and annoyances, I got Linux running as a fileserver...
[10:42] <LjL> blueboy: never done that, but try "auto-apt search language-pack"
[10:42] <rad4Christ> Hope I don't have to do it again for a while.
[10:42] <bipolar> has anyone used xinerama with the open source radeon driver?
[10:42] <bipolar> I have a laptop and want to use the 2nd screen output.
[10:42] <soundray> joanverde, you should really read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ; you'll know more than I do after that :)
[10:43] <blueboy> LjL, will do.. thanks
[10:43] <joanverde> soundray: reading
[10:43] <bipolar> or how about getting the ATI driver working in dapper :)
[10:43] <achew22_> can you get dapper on 1 cd
[10:43] <iBalo> bipolar: what about ranting ATI for that?
[10:44] <bipolar> iBalo: I kind of doubt they would care about an unreleased version of ubuntu. I'd rather use the open source one anyway.
[10:44] <dooglus> $ sudo ls
[10:44] <dooglus> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 21 22:36:29 2006
[10:44] <dooglus> ^-- what's that all about?
[10:44] <jetsaredim> where does apt store packages?
[10:45] <nuu> hey room
[10:45] <bipolar>  /var/cache/apt iirc
[10:45] <jetsaredim> I'm having trouble getting a package through apt, but I seem to be able to see it on the web
[10:45] <GTX> If you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[10:45] <dooglus> jetsaredim: /var/cache/apt/archives, yes
[10:45] <phiber_optic> where can change the color of my menus?
[10:45] <jetsaredim> dooglus: so can I just download a package and put it there and apt will find it
[10:45] <iBalo> jetsaredim: /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:45] <Silivrenion> anyone know if ubuntu supports lvm?
[10:45] <dooglus> jetsaredim: no
[10:45] <jetsaredim> dooglus: and assume it already downloaded it
[10:45] <nuu> new to linux and ubuntu was wondering if it's possible to remove kde to save some disk space or does it matter
[10:45] <dooglus> jetsaredim: use "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>@
[10:45] <dooglus> jetsaredim: use "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>"
[10:46] <afonit> does anyone know of a gui for the eps2png or eps2pdf command line utility?
[10:46] <stephan__> p
[10:46] <eedge> I'm still getting "The file/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly errors", please help!
[10:46] <dooglus> afonit: gnome-terminal?
[10:46] <signifer123> where could i get a general linux troubleshooter?
[10:46] <phiber_optic> what is the package name for gnome art?
[10:46] <Karko> im first time using ubuntu, i just got ubuntu 5.10 installed into my PC and now when im starting my computer it loads gnome i guess and after that a black screen appeears and the whole computer freezes and i have to restart it thru the powerplug. Enyone oculd help me?
[10:46] <soundray> dooglus, is that date really in the future where you are? If not, run sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate start
[10:46] <afonit> dooglus - haha
[10:46] <dooglus> soundray: it depends.
[10:47] <iBalo> eedge: you moved partitions, didn't you?
[10:47] <dooglus> soundray: on what timezone I set
[10:47] <eedge> I don't think i moved partitions?
[10:47] <dooglus> if I run "date" I see Tue Feb 21 21:47:15 UTC 2006
[10:47] <dooglus> but local time is 22:47
[10:47] <eedge> if I do find /boot/grub/stage1 its there.
[10:47] <eedge> I can see it!
[10:48] <iBalo> eedge: then you might have a flaky harddrive
[10:48] <eedge> Well, any suggestions?
[10:48] <eedge> lol
[10:48] <Silivrenion> I dont know how big my swap partition needs to be. I am doing a hard drive install through knoppix. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix
[10:48] <Silivrenion> can anyone help?
[10:48] <iBalo> eedge: are you in ubuntu now?
[10:48] <phiber_optic> what is the package name for gnome art?
[10:48] <eedge> yes, well, the live CD.
[10:48] <jetsaredim> dooglus: what do you make of this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9070
[10:49] <gnomefreak> yayyyyyyy its fixed :)
[10:49] <lusepuster> Hello - just did an upgrade to dapper. It seems I can't find the beagle search tool although I installed the beagle package. Am I missing something?
[10:49] <soundray> dooglus, so the date it moans about is in fact in the future if you assume that it refers to UTC.
[10:49] <soundray> ?
[10:49] <_jason> !dapper
[10:49] <ubotu> [dapper]  the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[10:49] <alex_> Hi
[10:49] <dooglus> jetsaredim: that's a beauty
[10:49] <alex_> please HELP!
[10:49] <dooglus> soundray: yes.
[10:49] <jetsaredim> dooglus: yea - tell me
[10:49] <_jason> alex_: just ask your question
[10:49] <eedge> iBalo, yes I am.
[10:49] <alex_> Im logged into irc from terminal
[10:49] <alex_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:49] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, alex_
[10:49] <alex_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:49] <ubotu> alex_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:49] <alex_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:49] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, alex_
[10:49] <gnomefreak> theres a dapper room?
[10:49] <_jason> alex_: stop and just ask your question
[10:50] <alex_> ok
[10:50] <_jason> gnomefreak: yep ompaul's idea, pretty good one
[10:50] <alex_> I messed up my xwindows
[10:50] <alex_> it wont start
[10:50] <_jason> at least I think it was his
[10:50] <dooglus> jetsaredim: can't you download the right package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[10:50] <KRA> Anybody here with nvidia knowledge ?
[10:50] <alex_> how do i post my xorg.conf from terminal?
[10:50] <Karko> my computer freezes after the screen with brown loading stuff, all says OK and has ubuntu logo, after all is OK and the loading bar is full it goes to a black screen and tadaa, comp freezes
[10:50] <Karko> help me someone?
[10:50] <_jason> alex_: you need to give us more details.  What did you do to mess it up?  Do you get errors?
[10:50] <iBalo> eedge: then mount your ubuntu hd-partition and copy /boot/grub/directory over _EXCEPT_ _the_ _menu.lst_
[10:50] <jetsaredim> I downloaded that from the mirror listed on the kde3.5.1 page
[10:50] <dooglus> soundray: yes, if it's referring to UTC, then it's in the future
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ty im checking it out :)
[10:50] <alex_> i installed fglrx drivers
[10:50] <jetsaredim> dooglus: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[10:51] <alex_> :(
[10:51] <soundray> dooglus, 'touch /tmp/reference', then set the system time two hours ahead, then run 'find / -newer /tmp/reference -print0 | xargs touch', then go back to proper time.
[10:51] <eedge> iBalo, where would I copy it to?
[10:51] <alex_> i think my xorf.conf is looking for the wrong drivers
[10:51] <alex_> i tell you what
[10:51] <soundray> dooglus, sorry, xargs -0 touch
[10:51] <alex_> actually
[10:51] <alex_> hmm
[10:51] <KRA> Anybody here with nvidia knowledge ?
[10:51] <dooglus> jetsaredim: I use GNOME
[10:51] <jetsaredim> dooglus: yea i figured
[10:51] <iBalo> eedge: whats your ubuntu partition?
[10:51] <alex_> ?
[10:51] <eedge> hda4
[10:51] <_jason> alex_: please don't use enter as punctuation, it makes it difficult to follow what you are saying
[10:51] <joanverde> soundray: the diskmounter said this to me: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:51] <soundray> KRA, only nvidia has nvidia knowledge, and even that is scarce apparently.
[10:52] <joanverde> what's that about
[10:52] <jetsaredim> jetsaredim: but I figured that someone here might be able to explain the apt errors i'm getting
[10:52] <alex_> ok sorry
[10:52] <soundray> joanverde, Mac disk?
[10:52] <eedge> iBalo, hda4
[10:52] <dooglus> soundray: what would that do?
[10:52] <KRA> soundray, funny, you have any experience though ?
[10:52] <joanverde> soundray: yes
[10:52] <dooglus> soundray: looks like it would find all the files with a date in the future, and give them a different date in the future?
[10:52] <soundray> dooglus, good question. I made a mistake. Give me a minute...
[10:52] <iBalo> eedge: so 'sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt'
[10:53] <eedge> yes... I've done that.
[10:53] <fangorious> lvreduce man page says to resize any fs in the lv first, but doesn't give any hints how to do that
[10:53] <dooglus> soundray: I think your instructions would work if you left out the @set system time to the future@ bit
[10:53] <alex_> well what i did is i was trying to install my ATI card drivers and it wasnt working so i installed the drivers from the packages (fglrx) and rebooted, and now xserver wont start at all, please say you can help ...
[10:53] <dooglus> oh, and how do I set the keyboard in ubuntu?  I want double-quote on shift-2, not @
[10:53] <dooglus> is there a package to dpkg-reconfigure?
[10:53] <soundray> dooglus, no, it would refuse to change the date on a file that has a future timestamp.
[10:53] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to change the color of my menus ?
[10:54] <alex_> _jason thanks if you can help, i just installed ubuntu over windows!
[10:54] <eedge> iBalo, i've done that.
[10:54] <eedge> How else would I be accessing it!
[10:54] <jonathan_> hello, could someone explain me how to run "bochs", an emulator, under ubuntu?
[10:54] <iBalo> eedge: what does 'ls /mnt/boot/grub' yield?
[10:54] <soundray> dooglus, modify the above command from the pipe: '| xargs -0 touch -r /tmp/reference'
[10:54] <lampshade> phiber_optic,   interesting name
[10:54] <gnomefreak> jonathan_: try interminal type bochs
[10:54] <phiber_optic> thanx lampshade
[10:54] <soundray> dooglus, that would give it a stamp to match the reference file.
[10:55] <_jason> alex_: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, see if that gives you X back
[10:55] <lusepuster> _jason: Sorry I got off-topic... I've joined ubuntu+1.
[10:55] <dooglus> soundray: I managed to delete a large chunk of my root partition earlier today.  I'm trying to recover from that...
[10:55] <alex_> ok
[10:55] <alex_> _jason: shall i accept the defaults?
[10:55] <lampshade> is the only method now for the w32codecs to install them by source?
[10:55] <NickGarvey> where is my init script?
[10:55] <alex_> i tried that before and it messed up
[10:55] <joanverde> soundray, you know what that means? it's a mac drive... the script can't manage mac?
[10:55] <_jason> lusepuster: no need to apologize, just letting you know of the new channel
[10:55] <soundray> dooglus, or maybe it's  '| xargs -0 touch -r=/tmp/reference' (I haven't tried this)
[10:55] <_jason> alex_: sure
[10:55] <soundray> joanverde, apparently.
[10:55] <mamefan> Non-technical question:  How does ubuntu make money?
[10:55] <phiber_optic> thanx lampshade
[10:55] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to change the color of my menus ?
[10:56] <alex_> ok
[10:56] <alex_> brb
[10:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mamefan: Support, enterprise deployment fees, MarkS...
[10:56] <soundray> mamefan, at present it doesn't
[10:56] <jonathan_> thanks gnome freaks
[10:56] <jesseman_> mamefan, eventually they will make $$$ thru service subscriptions from large enterprise deployments
[10:56] <joanverde> soundray: I'll try a reboot
[10:56] <fangorious> i used to have a separate / and /boot partition, I booted off the dapper live cd, mounted both under /mnt, copied /mnt/boot/* to /mnt/root/boot, edited /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst to change the partition numbers, took the /boot partition out of /etc/fstab and rebooted. that worked
[10:56] <lampshade> phiber_optic, which menus?  You can change Gnome's overall themes and also mess with individual menus and things.  I mostly have mine set to be transparent
[10:56] <alex_> exit
[10:56] <alex_> quit
[10:56] <dooglus> which package is 'man' in?
[10:56] <soundray> joanverde, it won't help I'm afraid.
[10:56] <phiber_optic> lampshade, yeah I want something like that
[10:56] <bjornkri> what's the apt-command to search for a package?
[10:57] <lampshade> apt-cache search package
[10:57] <dooglus> bjornkri: apt-cache search
[10:57] <bjornkri> thanks
[10:57] <iBalo> bjornkri: apt-cache search
[10:57] <phiber_optic> but i put my menu bar transparent and now I cant read like applications so I want ot change the colo of the letters but I dont know where :(
[10:57] <iBalo> ... too slow...
[10:57] <mamefan> So, let's say at some point Ubuntu starts bringing in lots of money from all the large enterprise support agreements.  What motivates the individual package contributors to continue their work?  Given that they're unlikely to see the $$?
[10:58] <soundray> dooglus, man-db
[10:58] <_jason> mamefan: not everything is done to make money
[10:58] <fangorious> then i got rid of the partition that used to be /boot, and edited menu.lst again, but now grub can't load :(
[10:58] <dooglus> soundray: thanks.  I just found it.  It's not installed by default?
[10:58] <mamefan> _jason: Do you have a job?
[10:58] <phiber_optic> lampshade, any ideas??
[10:58] <soundray> mamefan, do you have children?
[10:58] <mamefan> Yup.
[10:58] <_jason> mamefan: what does that have to do with it? (yes)
[10:59] <mamefan> would you keep doing you're job if they quit paying you?
[10:59] <lampshade> mamefan, I just installed linux on my main box--  it crashes more, I lost a lot of my applications that I loved (picasa, etc), but in light of all of that I do it because one I work with it for a while I plan to contribute code back to the community.  It is a good thing overall
[10:59] <soundray> mamefan, what makes you play with them, if you don't see the $$
[10:59] <mamefan> soundray: good point.
[10:59] <_jason> mamefan: I sit here and answer your questions, yet I'm not paid :)
[10:59] <Jormundgand> soundray: if I enjoyed a job I'd do it for free. The money is generally an extra - although I'd get another job which paid to make ends meet. =P
[11:00] <mamefan> well, I'm not paid to ask them either.
[11:00] <soundray> mamefan, some things are done for the love of it. If it helps someone make money, all the better.
[11:00] <we2by> is the nvidia card driver installed by default when installing ubuntu?
[11:00] <phiber_optic> does anybody know how to change the color of my menus ?
[11:00] <mamefan> It's just that lately I've been giving a lot of thought to the sustainability of OSS.
[11:00] <iBalo> we2by: that depends....
[11:00] <we2by> iBalo, I have a fx 5200
[11:00] <_jason> phiber_optic: probably by installing a theme
[11:00] <lampshade> mamefan, also consider what you call getting paid for it.  Like Novell and Google both use and contribute to linux.  However, Google isn't selling linux or anything like that.  The income kinda comes around in a different way I guess is what I'm trying to say
[11:01] <dooglus> aah.  I didn't have @ubuntu-standard@ installed.  what else is part of a basic desktop install?  I've got @ubuntu-desktop@, but that doesn't depend on @ubuntu-standard@
[11:01] <MrPockets> does Ubuntu havce a recycle bin that things go when you hit Delete ?
[11:01] <_jason> dooglus: ubuntu-base I think
[11:01] <soundray> Jormundgand, I'm with you all the way.
[11:01] <NickGarvey> mamefan: if you go on google you can see loads of people have though similar to you and there are countless articles on the issue
[11:01] <gnomefreak> MrPockets: yes bottom right hand corner
[11:01] <NickGarvey> thought(
[11:01] <phiber_optic> _jason, theres no way to change just the color of a theme?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> in gnome
[11:01] <_jason> phiber_optic: you can probably edit the theme
[11:01] <mamefan> No doubt it weighs more heavily on some than others.
[11:01] <MrPockets> gnomefreak, say its not there, how else do i get into it
[11:02] <gnomefreak> MrPockets: are you on gnome?
[11:02] <MrPockets> yeah
[11:02] <phiber_optic> how _jason?
[11:02] <soundray> Jormundgand, let's stop it anyway, lest people start to talk ;)
[11:02] <lampshade> phiber_optic, you can change colors, and such, I did to mine, but I've never tried changing font colors.  Like I said I usually just play around till I see the option in situations like this so I can't be more specific, sorry :(
[11:02] <iBalo> we2by: then you have to install the restricted-modules package according to your kernel, and nvidia-glx... sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ... and you're done
[11:02] <Jormundgand> =P
[11:02] <MrPockets> i just switched up the tool bars some time ago and Recycle bin isnt there
[11:02] <gnomefreak> you dont see the lil blue thing in bottom right corner?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhhhh
[11:02] <lampshade> MrPockets, it was just removed is all.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> MrPockets: you can try right clicking and adding trash to panel
[11:02] <_jason> phiber_optic: checkout art.gnome.org for their tutorial on making themes and then edit the file for your current theme
[11:03] <rhythminmind> ok so everytime i try to log in i get "Change your password immediately (root enforced) " So ok i change it but it will ask it again next login.. I've enabled root, and even with this acount it asks for a new password. i cant do anything with the system it keeps wanting new authentication... HELP!
[11:03] <phiber_optic> ok thanx _jason
[11:03] <mamefan> MrPockets: ALT-F1 and then trash:// (maybe?)
[11:03] <MrPockets> OMG Thank you!
[11:04] <Biggi> haha i had 65 gig in my trashcan the other day :P
[11:04] <NickGarvey> wheres the script that mounts the filesystems on boot?
[11:04] <mamefan> Oops ALT-F2
[11:04] <mivecz> can anyone help me
[11:04] <soundray> dooglus, sorry, missed your question. It's "Priority: standard"
[11:04] <gnomefreak> mivecz: can you tell us your issue?
[11:04] <ConfidentiaL> I have a problem with airodump, is this the placeto get help for this kind of things?
[11:04] <dooglus> soundray: I asked a question?
[11:05] <rhythminmind> anyone see my issue before?
[11:05] <soundray> dooglus, about man-db I think.
[11:05] <mivecz> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login(i cant  login
[11:05] <gnomefreak> dooglus: xubuntu is added back
[11:05] <soundray> dooglus, nvrmnd
[11:05] <zerephath> I installed beagle..but it complains that the daemon isn't running...a visit to /usr/share/doc/beagle revealed nothing...how do I get beagle to start the daemon and keep it running even after a reboot occurs?
[11:05] <dooglus> soundray: I'd like to know how to set my keyboard to be UK instead of US
[11:05] <TonyB2006> the i386 installer doesnt freeze w/ me, but the amd64 one gets really far, and then freezes at a random point
[11:05] <soundray> dooglus, X or console?
[11:05] <mivecz> is  ask  for  pass  i  just hit  enter  but nothing
[11:05] <dooglus> soundray: console
[11:05] <mivecz> cvs [login aborted] : connect to cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.209):2401 failed: Connection timed out
[11:06] <InnerF|RE> does anyone know why firefox wont load with msn networks dsl?
[11:06] <InnerF|RE> xp works fine
[11:06] <dooglus> soundray: usually the installer would ask you, but I didn't use the installer
[11:06] <fangorious> why are there no grub utilities on the flight4 livecd?
[11:06] <mivecz> flight4 release?
[11:06] <soundray> dooglus, it'll take me a couple of minutes to remember how...
[11:06] <ConfidentiaL> What channel should I join to get help with airodump and wireless scanning? Or maybe I could get help here?
[11:07] <NickGarvey> wheres the script that mounts the filesystems on boot?
[11:08] <name> i can't open hda1 !
[11:08] <dooglus> NickGarvey: /etc/init.d/mountall.sh
[11:08] <NickGarvey> thank you
[11:08] <zerephath> NickGarvey: It isn't a script it is a file named fstab
[11:08] <dooglus> NickGarvey: but what you probably wanted to know is that /etc/fstab controls which filesystems it mounts
[11:08] <yggdrasil__> can omone help me out with this error  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `alsa/asoundlib.h', needed by `softdevice.o'.  Stop.
[11:08] <NickGarvey> actually no, I'm trying to set up quota
[11:09] <NickGarvey> and its telling me to edit my init script
[11:09] <NickGarvey> but I really have no idea what I'm doing
[11:09] <dooglus> yggdrasil__: sounds like you need to install package libasound2-dev
[11:09] <InnerF|RE> does anyone know why firefox wont load with msn networks dsl?
[11:09] <dooglus> NickGarvey: the script I told you is probably the one then
[11:09] <NET||abuse> hi, i've been trying to install libxpm4 but apt can't find the package
[11:09] <KRA> Anyone here with knowledge about nvidia binary drivers /settings ?
[11:09] <yggdrasil__> think i did doooglus ill try again
[11:09] <nekostar> o.o
[11:09] <NET||abuse> can anyone else find it?
[11:10] <NickGarvey> LRUGHTP
[11:10] <NickGarvey> whoa
[11:10] <mivecz> how i  get  the  dev packages of E17???
[11:10] <NET||abuse> have I got to enable another deb?
[11:10] <dooglus> yggdrasil__: check whether you have /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h
[11:10] <NickGarvey> alrighty
[11:10] <yggdrasil__> dooglus yes its there
[11:10] <mamefan> InnerF|RE:  I'm using MSN DSL and Firefox works for me.  What are you seeing (or not seeing)?
[11:10] <soundray> dooglus, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[11:11] <herede> i'm trying to install kubuntu from the latest ISO, but something goes wrong with the basesystem installation. it points me to some log file (which doesn't exist), and then the installer exits. it appears to happen while extracting TAR. i've checked google, the faq, ... anyone got an idea what this could be?
[11:11] <mivecz> how i  get  the  dev packages of E17???
[11:11] <NET||abuse> can anyone tell me what deb to enable to get libxpm4
[11:12] <dooglus> soundray: thanks. you're a star.
[11:12] <_jason> !find libxpm4
[11:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libxpm4' (2 shown): libxpm4 ;; libxpm4-dbg.
[11:12] <_jason> !info libxpm4
[11:12] <ubotu> libxpm4: (X11 pixmap library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[11:12] <yggdrasil__> can omone help me out with this error  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `alsa/asoundlib.h', needed by `softdevice.o'.  Stop.
[11:12] <_jason> NET||abuse: you need the main repository enabled
[11:12] <ConfidentiaL> Ok, I'll ask here: Does any1 know why I on airodump get tons of packets, but never a single IV?
[11:12] <InnerF|RE> mamefan..
[11:12] <InnerF|RE> can i primsg u?
[11:12] <mamefan> ok.
[11:12] <NET||abuse> _jason: what does that look like in the sources.list ?
[11:13] <NickGarvey> !info quota
[11:13] <ubotu> quota: (implementation of the disk quota system), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.13-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 1160 kB
[11:13] <_jason> NET||abuse: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main
[11:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell NET||abuse about easysource
[11:13] <NET||abuse> _jazon; thanks
[11:13] <majik_other> hi, I just installed an nvidia card; a XFX FX5200 PCI; into my dapper drake computer. when I boot it hangs at "loading hardware drivers..."
[11:14] <mivecz> how i  get  the  deb packages of E17???
[11:14] <bipolar> Has anyone used Xinerama with the Open source radeon drivers? I think I'm pretty close but I'm not getting anything on my 2nd screen.
[11:14] <soundray> mivecz, apt-cache search enlightenment to list them, sudo apt-get install packagename to install.
[11:15] <nuu> can anyone help me with mplayer
[11:15] <_jason> nuu: just ask :)
[11:15] <nuu> it doesn't seem to play any sound files or cds
[11:15] <_jason> nuu: does it play video files?
[11:15] <biovore> nuu: you using the mplayer from apt?
[11:16] <nuu> no from automatrix
[11:16] <nuu> yeah it plays movies no prob but not music
[11:16] <NET||abuse> no checked it out, i definately have all deb's listed as main enabled but no libxpm4
[11:16] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[11:16] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:17] <biovore> mplayer should beable to do mp3/ogg/wav ac3/aac audio no problem
[11:17] <mivecz> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login
[11:17] <mivecz> Press <enter> when prompted for a password, then download the code by typing:
[11:17] <mivecz> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment \
[11:17] <mivecz> co -D "July 24, 2002" e17
[11:17] <_jason> nuu: always best to install things on your own and not become dependent on a script imo, I'm gonna send you a link to the mplayer guide.  Try to follow the steps to get it to use esd sound.  Come back if you have problems
[11:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell nuu about mplayer
[11:17] <mivecz> why is no  work these
[11:17] <MAB> crap. I am using Automatix as we speak
[11:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell mivecz about pastebin
[11:17] <nuu> ok
[11:17] <NET||abuse> _jason: so yeh, all mains are listed, still not finding libxpm4
[11:17] <gnomefreak> MAB: :(
[11:17] <nuu> everything is fine except that
[11:17] <biovore> I build mplayer from source.. works much better..  don't forget to get divx4linux/xvidcore/x264 before building
[11:17] <_jason> NET||abuse: can you put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[11:18] <fd_> hi all! how can i try drapper? i have 5.10 installed right now. must i install clean from a drapper cd?
[11:18] <yggdrasil__> can omone help me out with this error  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `alsa/asoundlib.h', needed by `softdevice.o'.  Stop.
[11:18] <_jason> biovore: he's using automatix, I doubt he wants to build it :P
[11:18] <MAB> I am new to Linux and Ubuntu was the first ive tried
[11:18] <NET||abuse> _jason: ok, hang on two seconds
[11:18] <ruby123> MAB: good choice :-)
[11:18] <_jason> MAB: great choice
[11:18] <MAB> ty
[11:18] <relachs> haha
[11:18] <ruby123> hehe
[11:18] <MAB> I realy thought Automatix was cool
[11:19] <InnerF|RE> qwest msn's dsl just timesouts with firefox, but works fine with xp.. anyone know why>
[11:19] <InnerF|RE> ?
[11:19] <cavediver> Hi. I'm having problems getting Zend Studio to work in Dapper. It installs fine but when I run it no menus appear, just a blank grey screen. Anyone recognizes this ?
[11:19] <_jason> MAB: there have been some issues with it in the past
[11:19] <gnomefreak> MAB: i never used it but ive have only heard bad things
[11:19] <biovore> InnerF|RE: firefox in general or just firefox on linux?
[11:19] <mamefan> InnerF|RE:  Sorry -- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,
[11:19] <allan__> where can i get the restricted modules for the 2.6.15 kernel?
[11:19] <_jason> !dapper
[11:19] <ubotu> dapper is, like, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[11:19] <nm> automatix doesn't really work as it should
[11:19] <nm> heh
[11:19] <MAB> _jason I have not read anything on the subject. Any real examples or personal issues?
[11:19] <mivecz> soundray look these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9073
[11:19] <NET||abuse> http://paste.ubuntulinux.org/9074
[11:19] <theking_2100> hi every one
[11:20] <nm> i have a friend guinea'ing breezy for me
[11:20] <nm> on his compaq laptop
[11:20] <InnerF|RE> firefox onlinux
[11:20] <ruby123> hi theking_2100
[11:20] <InnerF|RE> ubuntu
[11:20] <nm> he had nothing but difficulty with it
[11:20] <InnerF|RE> im registered
[11:20] <nm> and when i checked it out, it did install the packages it suggested it would, but they weren't really configured properly at all
[11:20] <theking_2100> i'm i in the right channel for help?
[11:20] <NET||abuse> _jason: http://paste.ubuntulinux.org/9074
[11:21] <gnomefreak> theking_2100: is it ubuntu related?
[11:21] <theking_2100> yep
[11:21] <MAB> Well I guess I am going to learn from my own mistakes
[11:21] <gnomefreak> than you are
[11:21] <_jason> NET||abuse: I'm getting a 404 on that page, just me?
[11:21] <Panzerboy> heh
[11:21] <soundray> mivecz, where did you get those instructions?
[11:21] <Panzerboy> just updated to dapper
[11:21] <Panzerboy> so far, so good :)
[11:21] <gnomefreak> MAB: take a look at easyubuntu
[11:21] <NET||abuse> _jason: :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9074
[11:21] <Panzerboy> new gnome really rocks
[11:21] <MAB> but I love my ubuntu :) I dictch windows after 3 days on ubuntu :)
[11:22] <mivecz> in a  site to  get   the  deb  packagers  for  e17
[11:22] <allan__> here can i get the linux restricted modules for the 2.6.15 kernel?
[11:22] <theking_2100> it's the very fist hours i use linux i just finish installing ubuntu 5.1
[11:22] <_jason> NET||abuse: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[11:22] <dooglus> soundray: looks like I need to change the keyboard map in X too.
[11:22] <dooglus> soundray: I've found system->prefs->keyboard but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
[11:22] <relachs> i want to install irssi but it says it is been referenced but not available
[11:22] <theking_2100> i just want to know how i can install ndiswrapper 1.10
[11:22] <_jason> relachs: ubuntu comes with irssi installed
[11:22] <soundray> dooglus, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:22] <MAB> have realy had no problems with ubuntu I can basicly do all the stuff I did on my winxp but kool graphics from PSP but I want to explor gimp :)
[11:23] <crimsun> relachs: the package name is 'irssi-text' in Breezy
[11:23] <nm> the_king2100: google.com?
[11:23] <dooglus> soundray: ooh.
[11:23] <fangorious> how do I reinstall grub from the dapper flight4 livecd?
[11:23] <dooglus> soundray: thanks
[11:23] <soundray> mivecz, those instructions are for Debian. You'll run into trouble if you apply those to Ubuntu.
[11:23] <nm> this is indeed a help channel, but you should exhaust your other avenues of research first
[11:23] <mivecz> where  to  find  for ubuntu
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fangorious about grub
[11:23] <soundray> mivecz, well, you know that, cause you already have...
[11:23] <Zoroaster> msg
[11:23] <Zoroaster> msg-nickserv
[11:23] <Zoroaster> msg-nickserv identify
[11:23] <_jason> Zoroaster: stop
[11:23] <theking_2100> i ve downloaded a an archive tar.gz
[11:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell Zoroaster about register
[11:24] <Zoroaster> I already registered
[11:24] <Zoroaster> I am trying to remember how to identify
[11:24] <mivecz> where  to  find  for ubuntu?
[11:24] <_jason> Zoroaster: /msg nickserv identify password
[11:24] <nm> Zoroaster, clearly you're omitting the necessary slash (/)
[11:24] <nm> before your commands
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: /msg nickserv identify password
[11:24] <relachs> _jason, oh right, crimsun thanks
[11:24] <InnerF|RE> i guess nobody knows yeah?
[11:24] <phiber_optic> what is the command to see what version of ubuntu im running i dont remember :(
[11:24] <theking_2100> i decompressed it on the desktop and i don't know how to install it
[11:24] <_jason> phiber_optic: lsb_release -a
[11:25] <phiber_optic> thats it thanx _jason
[11:25] <eedge> I installed XP after ubuntu, and it fuggered my grub.
[11:25] <soundray> mivecz, ubotu seems to know something:
[11:25] <TonyB2006> it'll do that
[11:25] <eedge> Anyone experienced "/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" errors when running grub-install before?
[11:25] <soundray> !tell mivecz about e17
[11:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell eedge about grub
[11:25] <MAB> lol eedge
[11:25] <Zoroaster> _jason, thanks
[11:25] <NET||abuse> _jason: heh, not likely to get much help in ubuntu+1, you can't help no? :(
[11:25] <MAB> erro 75
[11:25] <theking_2100> i saw that i should type in a command like make install but i dont know where and how
[11:26] <_jason> NET||abuse: confirm that the package exists for dapper using packages.ubuntu.com
[11:26] <eedge> I've tried most of, if not all, of the precedures on the wiki page for restoring grub after windows installation.
[11:26] <relachs> err, just noticed i didn't want to use irssi, i want a text-only browser :-)
[11:26] <soundray> theking_2100, what's this software?
[11:26] <eedge> but all of them tend to fall apart around the same place, and thats grub-install.
[11:26] <_jason> relachs: lynx is one
[11:26] <gnomefreak> links2 :)
[11:26] <nuu> _jason with that am i to copy everything,will it mess up everything i already have?
[11:26] <theking_2100> soundray ndiswrapper 1.10
[11:27] <fangorious> can grub have the root/boot partition in an lvm group?
[11:27] <mivecz> apt-get e17 dev packages...don't know exactly wich ones..?
[11:27] <nuu> cause it plays movies fine so i don't want to loose that
[11:27] <_jason> nuu: you are referring to the 'configuration' part?
[11:27] <nuu> yes
[11:27] <relachs> _jason, thank you
[11:28] <_jason> nuu: no, you should not lose functionality
[11:28] <nuu> can i add it to what i got or do i have to start from scratch?
[11:28] <MAB> so what is the purpose of wine or VM. I can just take things I have on disk and make them run on Ubuntu? Or is it more complicated than that
[11:28] <soundray> theking_2100, sorry, if you want to install that from source, I can't help. Why don't you install the ubuntu package (ndiswrapper-utils)?
[11:28] <mamefan> InnerF|RE: I can't PM.
[11:28] <_jason> nuu: put what you have on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:28] <InnerF|RE> well talk to me in the channel then
[11:28] <NET||abuse> _jason: arrg, libxp-dev libxp6/-dbg
[11:28] <InnerF|RE> nobody is saying anything
[11:28] <mamefan> Have you check IP connectivity (ie. can you 'ping www.google.com')
[11:29] <theking_2100> soundray from the cd?
[11:29] <MacSlow> eye-candy food -> http://macslow.thepimp.net/?p=27
[11:29] <NET||abuse> _jason: no libxpm4 in teh x11 section
[11:29] <soundray> theking_2100, no, from the repositories.
[11:29] <eedge> Can somebody help me reinstall grub, I'm really lost as to what is wrong...
[11:29] <InnerF|RE> i have to reboot and log into linux to do that
[11:29] <gnomefreak> eedge: did you read the wiki about grub yet?
[11:29] <InnerF|RE> but if my ip connectivity works here in xp
[11:29] <MAB> eedge are you on windows right now?
[11:29] <InnerF|RE> why wouldnt it with ubuntu?
[11:29] <_jason> NET||abuse: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libxpm4&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[11:29] <mamefan> If so, then the problem is with Firefox.  If not then the problem may be with name resolution.  Try 'ping 64.233.167.147'
[11:29] <theking_2100> soundray Hum... i don't know how to do it
[11:30] <mamefan> if that works then you know it a DNS issue.
[11:30] <eedge> Yes,  I'm in windows right now.
[11:30] <eedge> Its frightning me.
[11:30] <eedge> lol
[11:30] <MAB> lol
[11:30] <soundray> theking_2100, how new are you to ubuntu?
[11:30] <_jason> eedge: was the bot's link not helpful?
[11:30] <MAB> how long have you had ubuntu installed?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ok brb gonna try this again :(
[11:30] <fd_> can i resize my partition easily to make space for a new one?
[11:30] <mamefan> And you'd want to look at you /etc/resolv.conf (compare what's in there to your windows IPCONFIG).
[11:30] <theking_2100> soundray 2 hours lol
[11:30] <eedge> no, I've allready seen that link.
[11:30] <nuu> ok i pasted it now what save?
[11:30] <mamefan> sorry IPCONFIG /ALL
[11:30] <NET||abuse> _jason: ehhh. hmm heh.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/ not listed there??? weird
[11:30] <eedge> and followed most of those restoration steps...
[11:30] <eedge> non of them have worked.
[11:31] <eedge> and none of them assess my specific problem.
[11:31] <MAB> FD_ yes you can resize the partition as much as you like and you can make as many as you want
[11:31] <soundray> theking_2100, okay, there's a few things you need to make yourself familiar with before you can start installing pre-packaged ubuntu software from the repositories.
[11:31] <soundray> theking_2100, ubotu will give you a few links
[11:31] <soundray> ubotu, tell theking_2100 about repos
[11:31] <fd_> MAB, what tool would i use? Disk Manager from the Administration menu?
[11:31] <mamefan> Basically you need a valid IP/subnet, route, and name resolution.  If all that works then you'd need to focus on firefox config (I know very little about that).
[11:31] <soundray> ubotu, tell theking_2100 about easysource
[11:31] <InnerF|RE> k
[11:32] <soundray> ubotu, tell theking_2100 about synaptic
[11:32] <mamefan> You know how to check each of those?
[11:32] <InnerF|RE> shouldnt this be done automatically when i "install" ubuntu?
[11:32] <InnerF|RE> it always has...
[11:32] <mrkris> i installed kubuntu, but am getting errors when running apt-get upgrade, it tells me that there is a file mismatch on these debs. i have tried apt-get -f upgrade, apt-get --fix-missing, etc
[11:32] <soundray> theking_2100, it'll take you a little while to get through that material, but it's *far* better than messing around with source packages.
[11:32] <InnerF|RE> the only difference is the isp
[11:32] <eedge> MAB, missed that... I've had ubuntu installed for sometime.
[11:32] <mamefan> I'd expect it to, but you never know.  It doesn't hurt to check.
[11:32] <MAB> fd_ that something I saw in the Automatix but people here are telling me not use it. Too late.. LOL but you are going to have to ask but I believe you can use Synaptic and look in there
[11:32] <eedge> was first installation on a laptop though.
[11:33] <InnerF|RE> k
[11:33] <InnerF|RE> be back in a bit
[11:33] <wastrel> hello.
[11:33] <Zoroaster> what is it that IN install so that I have lots of backgrounds to choose from
[11:33] <mamefan> Maybe they don't server DHCP and instead are doing PPoA or something like that.  My line is PPoA.
[11:33] <Zoroaster> its an art package
[11:33] <MAB> sorry eedge I would not know the answer :(
[11:33] <Zoroaster> I just forgot
[11:33] <wastrel> what's ppoa?
[11:33] <soundray> theking_2100, in fact, the repositories are one of the things that make Ubuntu special.
[11:33] <mamefan> Point-To-Point over ATM.
[11:34] <mamefan> similar to PPoE (Point-To-Point over Ethernet).
[11:34] <marcelo> hello word
[11:34] <wastrel> heh he have a t1 or something?
[11:34] <MAB> hi marcelo :)
[11:34] <mamefan> DSL is often PPoA.
[11:34] <MAB> lol
[11:34] <theking_2100> soundray ok thx so befor i will be able to install some thing  i should learn all these pages?
[11:34] <wastrel> hmm i wasn't aware.
[11:35] <mamefan> if you have a username/password that you enter into a DSL modem it's almost certainly PPoA.
[11:35] <_mindspin> pppoe ?
[11:35] <soundray> theking_2100, as it is, you can install things from the CD only. You'll get to the point where you install things from the net fairly quickly.
[11:35] <iamtim> !mount
[11:35] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:35] <marcelo> who this using ubuntu in server
[11:36] <NickGarvey> I am using ubuntu..
[11:36] <NickGarvey> no gui though
[11:36] <marcelo> is server ?
[11:36] <mamefan> only two P (Point to Point).  When it's PPP that's Point to Point Protocol.  For some reason you drop the third P.
[11:36] <theking_2100> soundrayi looked in synaptic if i could find stuff but i didn't
[11:36] <NickGarvey> yeah
[11:36] <NET||abuse> so hmm, if libxpm4 is in the dapper pacakges.ubuntu.com/dapper  why isn't my system able to pick it up?
[11:36] <wastrel> what's the popular music program lately?  sounds like anjuta but not...
[11:36] <iamtim> What is the command to moutn a drive atr startup.
[11:36] <theking_2100> because i want to install my wifi usb card
[11:36] <iamtim> F something...
[11:37] <NickGarvey> change /etc/fstab
[11:37] <mamefan> amaroK?
[11:37] <iamtim> !fstab
[11:37] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[11:37] <MAB> anyone here use Skype to communicate successfully with people using Windows and have voice?
[11:37] <eedge> arg, I really don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu just cause I can't get grub to reinstall.
[11:37] <eedge> is their some way to partially reinstall?
[11:37] <wastrel> mamefan:  that's it thx..  hmm kde oh well
[11:37] <tahorg> mmm, how much space do I need to mirror breezy + dapper packages ?
[11:37] <marcelo> he has been estavel?
[11:37] <tahorg> marcelo: stable :)
[11:37] <NickGarvey> I think you can install grub without reinstalling your os
[11:37] <tahorg> marcelo: seu portuglish
[11:38] <iamtim> Thanks. Is there ANY way to remove diskmounter script once run?
[11:38] <theking_2100> soundray  because i want to install my wifi usb card and i learned that i should use ndiswrapper to install my drivers
[11:38] <Zoroaster> Where can I get themes for gnome?
[11:38] <soundray> mamefan, I'm pretty sure _mindspin is on PPPoE -- I know the provider (T-Online, right _mindspin?)
[11:38] <mamefan> www.gnome-look.org
[11:38] <_mindspin> yup
[11:38] <theking_2100> but i don't know how to do to install it
[11:38] <_mindspin> here in germany it's almost pppoe
[11:39] <marcelo> hehehe
[11:39] <eedge> art.gnome.org as well.
[11:39] <soundray> theking_2100, have you tried plugging it in and see whether Ubuntu recognizes it?
[11:39] <theking_2100> yep
[11:40] <mamefan> Usually the DSL connection protocol is irrelevant to the OS (unless your using an internal DSL modem).
[11:40] <soundray> theking_2100, what happens?
[11:40] <Zoroaster> mamefan, thanks, that helped me find what I was looking for - gnome-look I think
[11:40] <theking_2100> nothing lol
[11:40] <mamefan> Most DSL modems are external and either bridge or NAT.
[11:40] <marcelo> which type of application this twirling in the server, data, server web?
[11:41] <soundray> theking_2100, when you open System-Administration-Networking, what interfaces are in the list?
[11:41] <eedge> is there any explaination of why grub would return cannot read correctly for stage1 when it is readable as I can find it, and see it myself and where the filesystem is correct?
[11:41] <theking_2100> it's appears in the device manager
[11:41] <theking_2100> thats all
[11:41] <soundray> theking_2100, when you open System-Administration-Networking, what interfaces are in the list?
[11:42] <soundray> theking_2100, eth0? ppp0? Anything else?
[11:42] <theking_2100> nop
[11:42] <soundray> theking_2100, what interfaces do you see under Connections?
[11:42] <theking_2100> etho and loopback
[11:43] <soundray> theking_2100, and when you plug the USB Wifi adapter in?
[11:43] <Zoroaster> I installed "gnome-backgrounds", but how do I call it up, its an app right?
[11:43] <theking_2100> doesn't chage any thing
[11:44] <jag_fsf> does /tmp have some magic fu on it that makes it noexec regardless of how it's mounted? i'm getting "failed to map segment from shared object: Operation not permitted" when trying to load an .so from /tmp, and the only other time i've seen this error is when /tmp is mounted noexec...
[11:44] <mamefan> Zoroaster:  nope.  It's just backgrounds.
[11:44] <soundray> theking_2100, close and re-open the Network settings pls.
[11:44] <Seveas> !find libxpm dapper
[11:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libxpm' (3 shown): libxpm-dev ;; libxpm4 ;; libxpm4-dbg.
[11:44] <soundray> Zoroaster, right click on the background, last item in menu.
[11:44] <eedge> is there any explaination of why grub would return cannot read correctly for stage1 when it is readable as I can find it, and see it myself and where the filesystem is correct?
[11:44] <Seveas> !info libxpm4 dapper
[11:44] <marcelo> ei tahorg  is Brazilian?  tested ubuntu 6.04?
[11:44] <ubotu> libxpm4: (X11 pixmap library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[11:44] <eedge> just trying to troubleshoot my problem.
[11:44] <harritj> theking_2100 'dmesg' & post output after you have plugged in the usb dongle
[11:45] <phiber_optic> where can I check the rsa key for ssh?
[11:45] <tahorg> marcelo: estou usando
[11:45] <eedge> because I dont even have the slightly comprehention of why its not working.
[11:45] <Zoroaster> look I recently relapsed and started using windows so sorry about all the questions, I'm all better now
[11:45] <theking_2100> soundray nothing
[11:45] <soundray> harritj, slowly. He's been on Linux for two hours.
[11:46] <zF> Question
[11:46] <CarlFK> is there an rsync addr for dapper-server?  this daily shoudl be called yesterdaily at the rate is is going: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.iso
[11:46] <zF> When I ./configure
[11:46] <zF> make
[11:46] <zF> make install
[11:46] <theking_2100> harritj what? lol
[11:46] <zF> Where does the install files typically go?
[11:46] <harritj> ohhh heh, ok, well it would still make alot more sense to us getting that output rather than a 'notn'
[11:46] <zF> I've never compiled much stuff from source.
[11:46] <jag_fsf> zF: depends on the software
[11:46] <theking_2100> soundray thx for your help
[11:46] <_jason> zF: don't use make install, use checkinstall
[11:46] <Zoroaster> I could have sworn that the last time I ran Ubuntu, I had installed an app, or package, that gave me lots of cool backgrounds to choose from
[11:46] <marcelo> tahorg: de onde vc  cara ?
[11:46] <soundray> theking_2100, okay, it's ndiswrapper then.
[11:46] <jag_fsf> zF: often /usr/*, sometimes /usr/local/*
[11:46] <tahorg> marcelo: curitiba - pr
[11:46] <CarlFK> zF: /usr/bin is a common place
[11:47] <marcelo> ai vc instalou pelo cd mesmo ? ou usou apt ?
[11:47] <_jason> zF: you need to install it though, sudo apt-get install checkinstall.  That way the package manager handles the file and you can see exactly where everything went with dpkg -L packagename
[11:47] <theking_2100> so ?? to install it what i should do?
[11:47] <harritj> theking_2100  what usb wifi adapter is it?
[11:47] <zF> _jason, that seems more intelligent, I'll do that
[11:47] <Seveas> marcelo, tahorg please stick to english in here....
[11:47] <mamefan> Zoroaster:  gnome-themes?
[11:47] <soundray> theking_2100, open System-Administration-Synaptic
[11:47] <Scarborough> should I change from gnome to kde?
[11:47] <zF> do I still ./configure
[11:47] <zF> make
[11:47] <zF> and then checkinstall
[11:47] <Ktron> Anyone here who has run World of Warcraft under ubuntu?
[11:47] <_jason> zF: yeah, except sudo checkinstall
[11:48] <zF> Right.
[11:48] <mamefan> gnome-themes-extras
[11:48] <theking_2100> it's inventel  11mb
[11:48] <NickGarvey> mm I think WoW would be a bit hard to run under wine..
[11:48] <Ktron> And if I install 64-bit ubuntu, will wine act as a 32-bit windows emulator?
[11:48] <tahorg> Seveas: ok no problem
[11:48] <NickGarvey> never tried it but I really doubt it...
[11:48] <mamefan> Ktron: not on IA64.
[11:48] <theking_2100> model ur012i
[11:48] <mamefan> Tried it and failed.
[11:48] <jag_fsf> does /tmp have some magic fu on it that makes it noexec regardless of how it's mounted? i'm getting "failed to map segment from shared object: Operation not permitted" when trying to load an .so from /tmp, and the only other time i've seen this error is when /tmp is mounted noexec...
[11:48] <harritj> theking_2100  thats a atmel chipset.. supported, but might not be included in the ubuntu distro.
[11:48] <Ktron> NickGarvey; I know a lot of people who do it, just not anyone whose done it with ubuntu
[11:49] <Tomcat_> Ktron: I read somewhere that wine won't even compile on 64-bit... but not sure about that.
[11:49] <Ktron> Tomcat_; I'm not sure either
[11:49] <Zoroaster> mamefan, I'll look into that, it's not that important
[11:49] <esd_lnx> my time stamps seems not working :/   but its click?
[11:49] <soundray> Tomcat_, there is a 64-bit Wine now, apparently.
[11:49] <harritj> 'atmel-firmware' && 'at76c503a-source' ...
[11:49] <zF> _jason, some serious errors just went down
[11:50] <wastrel> Ktron:  i reboot for it :/  only reason i still have a 'doze partition.
[11:50] <mamefan> soundray:  not for IA64 :-(
[11:50] <theking_2100> i know that there no driver for linux so i found out that i should install and run ndiswrapper 1.10
[11:50] <eedge> Hey, does anyone know any other methods for restoring grub other than those listed on the wiki?
[11:50] <zF> in the source directory, I ran. "./configure", "make", and then "sudo checkinstall", and apparently it didn't work correctly.
[11:50] <Ktron> wastrel; alright, thanks, same to everyone else too
[11:50] <theking_2100> but i don't know how to install it
[11:50] <soundray> mamefan, I prefer beer anyway.
[11:50] <harritj> theking_2100 if it is indeed an inventel, then it has atmel chipset, which _is_ supported
[11:50] <phiber_optic> where is the path to get my public rsa key for ssh?
[11:50] <wastrel> Ktron:  i would try but my laptop couldn't handle wow under wine ;]   barely handles wow under windows
[11:50] <soundray> theking_2100, have you opened synaptic?
[11:50] <theking_2100> yep
[11:50] <mamefan> soundray: ?
[11:51] <_jason> zF: what were the errors?
[11:51] <soundray> mamefan, to wine ;)
[11:51] <soundray> theking_2100, in Settings-Repositories,... sorry telephone
[11:51] <mamefan> Ahh, maybe I should poor beer on my IA64s.  Couln't hurt.
[11:51] <theking_2100> soundray np
[11:52] <trappist> mamefan: pour
[11:52] <alien9391> How to restart x?
[11:52] <mamefan> yeah, i'm stupid.
[11:52] <eedge> Hey, does anyone know any other methods for restoring grub other than those listed on the wiki? Or if not any other possibility to get access back onto my ubuntu?
[11:52] <mamefan> I'm normally the spelling police.
[11:52] <trappist> mamefan: awesome
[11:52] <eedge> I've tried various bootdisks and bootmagic etc, they just freeze when I try to boot the partition.
[11:52] <nickrud> alien9391: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (assuming you're using ubuntu)
[11:53] <zF> _jason, http://pastebin.com/565866
[11:53] <trappist> mamefan: maybe I'll run across you late one night as I prowl the streets with my paint can and apostrophe-shaped stencil
[11:53] <relachs> does anyone know if centrino have HT technology?
[11:53] <wastrel> eedge:  you mean mount the partition?
[11:53] <alien9391> nickrud : thx
[11:53] <marcelo> ok ok
[11:53] <asymmetry> relachs, no, to my knowledge, thats a p4 and later feature
[11:53] <pmj> I need to burn several 4GB+ files to DVD, but GnomeBaker (mkisofs) tells me they're too large. What should I do?
[11:53] <wastrel> eedge:  can you mount the disk from your bootdisk?  the partition/disk isn't toast?
[11:53] <_jason> zF: you have build-essential?  and what are you installing?
[11:53] <rem_> how do you install the dictionnary for another language for openoffice ? (I did apt-get install it, but I dont have it in OO)
[11:53] <harritj> pmj shrink em a little ;)
[11:54] <theking_2100> soundray i found ndiswrapper-utils in synaptic i m installing it
[11:54] <zF> _jason, yes, I do - I'm install nmap 4.01
[11:54] <pmj> harritj: they're not too large to fit on the DVD, but apparently too large for the filesystem or something. Shrinking them is not an option
[11:54] <relachs> asymmetry, yes, but centrino came later than p4, also there are centrino on the market named Centrino II
[11:54] <nickrud> pmj:  k3b (kde, I know)
[11:54] <trappist> <3 k3b
[11:54] <rem_> is there anything more to do ..?
[11:54] <asymmetry> relachs, oh, centrino... read celeron (really tired)
[11:54] <phiber_optic> Im trying to remote desktop to my computer and it tells me that the RSA key is not the same, that it has been changed. Where can I get this RSA key?
[11:54] <pmj> yes, I really don't want to install k3b unless I absolutely have to
[11:54] <asymmetry> relachs, i can look it up
[11:55] <harritj> you tried growisofs?
[11:55] <nickrud> pmj: k3b is the best option you have, really.
[11:55] <soundray> theking_2100, well done. I told you it wouldn't take long ;)
[11:55] <rem_> i didnt want to install k3b, but I ended up doing it anyway ..:P
[11:55] <relachs> asymmetry, hehe
[11:55] <eedge> no. I can mount hda4 (the linux partition) from a live CD.
[11:55] <trappist> phiber_optic: try ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[11:55] <_jason> zF: hrmm, I've enver gotten that.  You sure it compiled without errors?
[11:55] <eedge> wastrel, I tried other boot loaders though and I couldn't boot from hda4.
[11:56] <rem_> as well as kooka ... only 2 kde apps ...
[11:56] <eedge> but I can mount it under a live cd.
[11:56] <rem_> how do you install the dictionnary for another language for openoffice ? (I did apt-get install it, but I dont have it in OO)
[11:56] <eedge> and read the files grub-install says it can't read.
[11:56] <rem_> is there anything more to do ..?
[11:56] <marcelo> by by word
[11:56] <mamefan> rem_: you let the camel in and you'll never get him out.
[11:56] <zF> _jason, yep.
[11:56] <rem_> lol
[11:56] <asymmetry> relachs, yes, some centrinos have ht - techbuilder.org article dated 29 Sept 2004 describes it, so id imagine anything much later than that has it - how fast is the processor in question?>
[11:56] <harritj> pmj personally I use growisofs only when burning dvds.. never had a problem as long as the iso's are in fact within size
[11:57] <phiber_optic> trappist I see a lot letters which will be my ikey?
[11:57] <relachs> 1.7Ghz Centrino II
[11:57] <pmj> harritj: I'll try that then
[11:57] <xnull> how much is a p3 laptop?
[11:57] <_jason> zF: let me try
[11:57] <wastrel> eedge:  have you tried giving grub explicit boot parameters about where to find this disk?
[11:57] <benplaut> are the US repos down?
[11:57] <mamefan> xnull:  I'll sell you mine for $300 (US)
[11:57] <thenuke> xnull: how much is a fish?
[11:57] <theking_2100> soundray now it's says it install where do i find it or should i just try to run mo driver cd
[11:57] <wastrel> eedge:  i assume it's looking for the /boot partition?
[11:58] <eedge> no, its been completely whiped off the mbr.
[11:58] <xnull> mamefan: p3 dont know for sure : from where are you?
[11:58] <mamefan> thenuke:  I'll sell you mine for $13 (US) it's a rainbow trout.
[11:58] <xnull> memfan:
[11:58] <eedge> at the moment its booting straight to the old windows partition.
[11:58] <mamefan> xnull:  you're better off prowling eBay than asking here.  I retract my offer.
[11:59] <asymmetry> relachs, not too sure on that one - id imagine that if the centrinos have it, that the centrino 2s do too, easiest way to tell is load it up in an smp-capable kernel/os and see if it reports two processors
[11:59] <relachs> asymmetry, hehe if i only had one ;)
[11:59] <zF> hrmmm
[11:59] <eedge> wastel, I'm looking at how I can completely reinstall grub onto the mbr.
[11:59] <eedge> well, I assume thats what I have to do.
[12:00] <wastrel> eedge:  have you tried this one:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub