[12:03] <r2> should i delete the #?
[12:03] <r2> before the urls
[12:03] <kosh> r2: it means that line is disabled, if you have a reason to turn that line on then you can delete the #
[12:04] <samoura> Select the System menu at the top of the screen.
[12:04] <samoura> Select Administration then Synaptic Package Manager.
[12:04] <samoura> what ;(
[12:04] <robotgeek> samoura: that will not work, you are in kde
[12:05] <samoura> okei how do i get out from gde?
[12:05] <fatejudger> !sources.list
[12:05] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:05] <fatejudger> !fglrx
[12:05] <ubotu> [fglrx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:05] <robotgeek> samoura: so, that is why i told you to launch konsole, by doing 1) alt + f2 , type "konsole" 2) in Konsole, type "kdesu adept"
[12:09] <samoura> okei i did ALL+ F2 and than konsole and than i see a black screen just like window xp start/run. after the black screen comes up password and than comes this stupid adapt manage  but i don see there Select Administration then Synaptic Package Manager.;S
[12:12] <david> I think kubuntu.org also needs a little intro talk like ubunto.com and edubuntu.org instead of directly the news
[12:12] <kosh> samoura: calling things stupid and just in general making trollish comments is unlikely to result in help
[12:12] <samoura> okei i am so sorry ;( but help me
[12:12] <kosh> samoura: if you want to get out of kde then click on the kde icon then click on log out
[12:13] <kosh> samoura: once you have logged out, log in to whatever other desktop you want to use instead
[12:13] <samoura> okei thanks :P
[12:17] <david> kubunto.org should also have links to ubunto and edubunto to complete the 'circel'
[12:18] <Snake__> david: isnt it kubuntU?
[12:18] <david> Snake__: yeah it is, strange that I never type that wrong int the url of konqueror :)
[12:19] <Snake__> heh
[12:19] <samoura> okei i logd out and i restarted ;/ but no changes ?
[12:21] <kosh> samoura: when you log in there should be a drop down so you can select kde or any other installed window manager
[12:22] <Snake__> sampan: you can find that dropdown under "Session type"
[12:24] <mrkris> ok, so after trying to figure out why i get the mismatch errors, i downloaded one of the debs by hand and noticed it is an html error hah
[12:24] <mrkris> <br />
Parse error</b>:  syntax error, unexpected '^' in <b>/u01/ftpubuntu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/ksysguard_3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb</b> on line <b>94</
[12:24] <mrkris> b><br />
[12:27] <samoura> i Reboot my computer and i loged in but i dont see Synaptic Package Manager. -> 1Select Administration then Synaptic Package Manager.
[12:27] <samoura> ;( help please
[12:27] <Hobbsee> samoura: try kmenu, sysetm, synaptic package manager
[12:28] <Hobbsee> you're on kde, not gnome
[12:28] <samoura> how can i go on gnome please tell me
[12:28] <kosh> samoura: when you log in there should be a drop down so you can select kde or any other installed window manager
[12:29] <kosh> samoura: however if you are running kubuntu the odds are that gnome is not even installed, kubuntu is kde, ubuntu is gnome
[12:29] <kosh> samoura: if gnome is not installed you could install it
[12:29] <samoura> how
[12:29] <samoura> ?
[12:29] <samoura> package manager?
[12:30] <Snake__> sampan: sudo apt-get install gnome
[12:30] <kosh> samoura: if you don't like kde though why did you install kubuntu?
[12:31] <dev_null> i just tried to update to dapper and about 50 packages did not update because of a size mismatch
[12:31] <dev_null> is there something I should do?
[12:31] <dev_null> I reran apt-get update
[12:32] <samoura> i don know nothing about linux and i know linux is match better than window that is why i install it because it is free that is why
[12:32] <fatejudger> is something wrong with the Dapper repos right now?
[12:32] <dev_null> fatejudger:  I just asked the same question i think
[12:32] <fatejudger> lol, sorry, I just joined
[12:32] <fatejudger> dev_null: what is your error?
[12:32] <dev_null> what happened when you tried to update?
[12:33] <dev_null> i get Size mismatch errors
[12:33] <fatejudger> dev_null:
[12:33] <fatejudger> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xresprobe/xresprobe_0.4.22_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[12:33] <fatejudger> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pykdeextensions/pykdeextensions_0.4.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[12:33] <fatejudger> sorry for the flood
[12:33] <dev_null> yup
[12:33] <Hobbsee> freeflying-ibook: gb mirrors seem ok...
[12:33] <dev_null> thats the same thing I got
[12:33] <fatejudger> hmm
[12:33] <fatejudger> maybe they're updating stuff
[12:33] <dev_null> how many packages for you?
[12:33] <fatejudger> two if you do a dist-upgrade
[12:33] <dev_null> it was about 50 for me
[12:33] <fatejudger> oh geez
[12:33] <dev_null> tons of them updated ok
[12:33] <fatejudger> 50 had the size mismatch?
[12:33] <dev_null> yeah
[12:34] <fatejudger> I'm doing an upgrade from a fresh install of Flight 4
[12:34] <fatejudger> so it might be a little different for me
[12:34] <samoura> is linux card updates better than window?
[12:34] <dev_null> samoura: usually
[12:35] <dev_null> most of the packages don't look that importiant, but server-xorg-driver does
[12:36] <dev_null> even --fix-missing didn't help
[12:38] <fatejudger> dev_null: yeah, I tried that too
[12:39] <fatejudger> Riddell: ping
[12:39] <r2> does anyone know how i can see my windows partitions?
[12:39] <fatejudger> r2: storage media
[12:39] <fatejudger> r2: that is if you use KDE 3.5.1
[12:39] <duckdown> Hey all..  Dapper Flight 4 = Awesome :)
[12:39] <r2> fatejudger: how can i see kde version?
[12:40] <dev_null> duckdown: did you have any problem updating your packages?
[12:40] <fatejudger> r2: you'd know if you were on 3.5.1
[12:40] <fatejudger> r2: because you would have had to manually upgrade
[12:40] <duckdown> But I'm having a problem..  My touchpad on the laptop is EXTREMELY slow to move the cursor across the screen.. I tried adjusting the "Pointer Acceleration" in System Settings in KDE, but its not making a difference
[12:40] <fatejudger> r2: unless you use Dapper
[12:40] <r2> i use 5.10
[12:40] <duckdown> dev_null: Nope, I just clicked the Caution button, logged in, and Adept did everything for me
[12:40] <r2> not dapper
[12:40] <fatejudger> r2: yeah, then you'll need to manually mount the partition
[12:40] <fatejudger> r2: not hard
[12:41] <fatejudger> r2: but make sure to mount it read only
[12:41] <r2> ok mate
[12:41] <r2> where can i do that?
[12:41] <fatejudger> r2: I wouldn't want you writing to your NTFS partition and screwing it up
[12:42] <fatejudger> r2: Disk & Filesystems in System Settings I think
[12:42] <fatejudger> r2: you can mount it in the terminal too
[12:42] <LiteHedded> my audio was working fine but now it's not! can someone help?
[12:42] <fatejudger> r2: I can't vouch for the first one though since it isn't working right now for me
[12:42] <dev_null> fatejudger:  did you do your update using adept or from cli?
[12:42] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: perhaps you could be more specific
[12:42] <LiteHedded> what do you need to know?
[12:42] <Perma> hi gang. i don't know if it's cool to ask for help here or not, if it is is, I'd be much thankful. Little prob with xorg
[12:43] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: information about the problem
[12:43] <LiteHedded> xmms says can't open audio
[12:43] <LiteHedded> kopete wont play sounds
[12:43] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: are you using Breezy or Dapper?
[12:43] <LiteHedded> breezy
[12:43] <LiteHedded> maybe an application is using it or something?
[12:43] <fatejudger> perhaps
[12:43] <LiteHedded> but I don't see anything in ps
[12:43] <fatejudger> did your restart?
[12:44] <fatejudger> *you
[12:44] <Perma> i am on breezy amd64 with ati 200m gfx. error message when i hit startx is that it is skipping lobGLcore because of No Symbols. Module load failure
[12:44] <Perma> ty in advance
[12:44] <LiteHedded> no i didn't restart
[12:44] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: you can restart ALSA or Kubuntu
[12:44] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: take your pick
[12:44] <LiteHedded> alsa
[12:45] <fatejudger> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[12:45] <LiteHedded> still not working
[12:46] <dbstest> newbie needs help... can not log in as admin
[12:46] <fatejudger> try using amarok, it usually is more descriptive in its errors
[12:46] <fatejudger> tell me what it says
[12:47] <LiteHedded> gst-engine claims it cannont play mp3 files
[12:47] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: there you go
[12:47] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: wait
[12:47] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: do you use gstreamer or xine?
[12:48] <LiteHedded> i dunno
[12:48] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: lol
[12:48] <LiteHedded> don't know the difference
[12:48] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: ok, I think xmms uses xine by default
[12:48] <LiteHedded> k
[12:48] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: damn, this isn't going to work very well
[12:48] <LiteHedded> xmms says it's using OSS
[12:48] <LiteHedded> not alsa
[12:48] <fatejudger> eww
[12:48] <fatejudger> well that would be your problem there
[12:48] <fatejudger> OSS locks up the sound system
[12:49] <LiteHedded> ok
[12:49] <fatejudger> probably can't access it again or something
[12:49] <fatejudger> try switching it to ALSA
[12:49] <LiteHedded> nothing
[12:50] <nadia007> wondering if someone can help me with wep encryption on wireless.  Got my pc card to work when router has no encryption... but when I activate my wep encryption it messes up!
[12:50] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: it would  be helpful if you either installed amarok-xine or installed gstreamer-mad
[12:51] <LiteHedded> ok
[12:51] <Otis> evening ... mplayer works fine ... why do movies take over 1 minute before they start playing in KMplayer ?
[12:51] <LiteHedded> installed
[12:51] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: which one?
[12:51] <LiteHedded> xine
[12:51] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: ok, go back into amarok and tell it to use the xine engine
[12:52] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: it should be in the config under engines
[12:52] <dbstest> newbie needs help cannot make any system changes today, yesterday after install worked fine today nada
[12:53] <LiteHedded> the only engine is gstreamer
[12:54] <fatejudger> did you restart amarok?
[12:54] <LiteHedded> yes
[12:54] <fatejudger> are you sure?
[12:54] <fatejudger> it should be in there
[12:54] <LiteHedded>  yes
[12:54] <LiteHedded> i restarted it
[12:54] <fatejudger> and you're positive you're looking in the right place
[12:55] <LiteHedded> yes
[12:55] <fatejudger> under sound system
[12:55] <duckdown> Can someone tell me how to speed up my touchpad on my laptop on Kubuntu
[12:55] <LiteHedded> in amarok > engines?
[12:55] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: yes
[12:55] <LiteHedded> just gstreamer
[12:55] <LiteHedded> but amarok isn't my problem
[12:55] <LiteHedded> nothing plays sound
[12:55] <LiteHedded> i don't even use amarok
[12:56] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: I know, I know, I'm just trying to use it because it gives good errors
[12:56] <LiteHedded> k
[12:56] <LiteHedded> well xine isn't listed
[12:56] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: and there's nothing that you did that could cause something like this?
[12:56] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: have you restarted your computer lately?
[12:56] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: updated?
[12:56] <fatejudger> LiteHedded: installed a new package?
[12:57] <LiteHedded> only thing I can think of is some application is using it and didn't exit
[12:57] <LiteHedded> but I don't see anything like that in ps -aux
[12:57] <fatejudger> the alsa restart should have taken care of anything using alsa
[12:57] <fatejudger> but not OSS
[12:57] <fatejudger> perhaps it's just best to restart Kubuntu
[12:57] <fatejudger> take care of everything
[12:57] <Plouj> humm, here is my problem: http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu{1,2,3}.jpg
[12:57] <LiteHedded> when I press play on xmms using alsa it doesn't give and error
[12:57] <LiteHedded> but it doesn't play the file
[12:58] <Plouj> does kubuntu not install SATA drivers for my hdd or something?
[12:58] <fatejudger> Plouj: 404 not found?
[12:58] <Perma> lol
[12:58] <Plouj> fatejudger: its three images
[12:58] <fatejudger> ah, yes
[12:58] <fatejudger> I see that now
[12:59] <fatejudger> Plouj: well that's quite a problem
[12:59] <Plouj> the thing is
[12:59] <Plouj> the installer kernel could open it!
[12:59] <Plouj> since it was able to copy all the files
[12:59] <fatejudger> lol
[01:00] <fatejudger> I wouldn't even know where to start with something like that
[01:00] <Plouj> so, that makes no sense to me
[01:00] <fatejudger> this is beyond my scope
[01:00] <fatejudger> is this just a Kubuntu problem?
[01:00] <Plouj> thank goodness you're not the only one here
[01:00] <fatejudger> or do other distro have this same problem with your HD?
[01:01] <Plouj> no, other 'distros' boot fine
[01:02] <fatejudger> weird
[01:03] <anthrax> hi everyone.
[01:03] <anthrax> seems like I could use a little held
[01:04] <anthrax> I just installed the nvidia drivers. they work fine. but now I am unable to switch to a tty.
[01:05] <anthrax> my screen just goes off-power
[01:05] <anthrax> any suggestions?
[01:07] <fatejudger> anthrax: shit happens
[01:07] <anthrax> helpful *g*
[01:09] <anthrax> no, really, been googling for about 2 hours now and so far to no avail. so no one of you guys know what i could do?
[01:09] <fatejudger> anthrax: I'd help, but I use an ATI card
[01:10] <anthrax> np.
[01:11] <nadia007> fatejudger, know much about wep and wireless working on kubuntu?
[01:13] <Hobbsee> nadia007: i know some of it, what did you want to know?
[01:13] <Hobbsee> not done anything with WEP though
[01:13] <nadia007> I'm able to get my linksys working without encryption, but moment I try to add encryption stops working
[01:14] <nadia007> I've set encryption (wep) on my router.
[01:14] <B1zz> ewwww
[01:14] <B1zz> wep
[01:14] <Hobbsee> !wep
[01:14] <ubotu> wep is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[01:14] <B1zz> i never could get it to work
[01:14] <nadia007> what other options are there?
[01:14] <B1zz> my card didnt like so i use wpa much better :-p
[01:14] <Hobbsee> have you got your encryption key in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:15] <nadia007> wireless_key 70abcdef...
[01:15] <nadia007> that's the format that I used to enter it.
[01:15] <nadia007> ubotu, link doesnt' work!
[01:15] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nadia007
[01:16] <anthrax> how did you set the key? via System settings or via what tool?
[01:16] <anthrax> tried kwifimanager?
[01:16] <nadia007> I got the key from the router, kwifimanager does not work well with linksys wifi
[01:17] <anthrax> and where/how did you enter the key?
[01:17] <nadia007> I tried entering it manually via systems settings, but that doesn't work and the app seems a bit quirky to me...
[01:17] <nadia007> I typed in command line.
[01:17] <nadia007> and in the /etc/network/interface file
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !wifi
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:18] <nadia007> command line I typed. sudo iwconfig wlan0 key 70BB078DEB
[01:18] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure that kwifimanager acutally works too well at all
[01:18] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: it works great
[01:18] <anthrax> it does for me.
[01:18] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: are you able to dist-upgrade?
[01:18] <nadia007> ubotu, I've read that a million times... that's how I got this far... encryption is the only part that is killin me!
[01:18] <ubotu> nadia007: that's too long
[01:19] <nadia007> ubotu, the key is too long?
[01:19] <ubotu> nadia007: okay
[01:19] <fatejudger> ah, I think they might have fixed it
[01:19] <fatejudger> yep
[01:19] <Hobbsee> !forget the
[01:19] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'the', Hobbsee
[01:19] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: nm, they fixed the repos
[01:19] <Hobbsee> !forget the key
[01:19] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'the key', Hobbsee
[01:19] <Hobbsee> hmm
[01:20] <Hobbsee> nadia007: this part in particular
[01:20] <Hobbsee> I saw this about the gui wep-key entry (here [WWW]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315): One detail that was essential for me to get my laptop running on a Linksys WRT54G router: when you generate a WEP key that is 10 digits long (XXXXXXXXXX), you cannot just copy and paste this key into the WEP key field within the Network Settings dialogue. You must insert a dash after every fo
[01:20] <Hobbsee>  encryption works fine.
[01:20] <Hobbsee> and something tells me you didnt want to give out your key in the middle of a channel
[01:20] <Hobbsee> but oh well
[01:20] <nadia007> so I'm just not entering the key right!
[01:20] <nadia007> no big deal... I just change the key!
[01:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:21] <Hobbsee> i'd try that, at lesat
[01:21] <nadia007> thx hobbsee!
[01:22] <nadia007> hobbsee... can't find the url you gave me...  what does it say after "you must insert a dash after every fo..."?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> fourth character, ie, XXXX-XXXX-XX. Once you do this, WEP encryption works fine.
[01:23] <Hobbsee> it's in the comments at the bottom of the !wifi page
[01:23] <nadia007> sweet...  I'll give it a try.!
[01:24] <jerware> shy does sudo exept my root password but not su or su -   ?
[01:25] <nadia007> !wifi
[01:25] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:26] <Hobbsee> !tell jerware about sudo
[01:26] <anthrax> help needed. I just installed the nvidia drivers. they work fine. but now I am unable to switch to a tty. my screen just goes power-off
[01:27] <LiteHedded> can someone help me get my sound working?
[01:28] <yonkeltron> what do size mismatches on packages mean?
[01:29] <jerware> sudo is  not my concern
[01:29] <jerware> why would su -  not work?
[01:29] <jerware> if the password for both sudo and su -  are the same
[01:29] <Snake__> jerware: you have to active su
[01:30] <jerware> active su ?  how do i do that?
[01:30] <Snake__> jerware: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20902.html
[01:30] <jerware> you mean active ate
[01:30] <jerware> hmmm
[01:30] <Snake__> That is not recommend tho
[01:30] <jerware> as long as it works
[01:30] <Snake__> sudo works just as well..
[01:31] <jerware> sudo is to execute a command. if i want to execute a series, typing sudo before each command is exaustive and unessessary
[01:31] <Snake__> jerware: sudo lasts for 15 mins. after you sudo one command, you can do other root commands for up to 15 mins before you have to type "sudo" again
[01:32] <jerware> ok
[01:33] <electuZ> hello
[01:33] <Snake__> Hey
[01:33] <anthrax> help needed. I just installed the nvidia drivers. they work fine. but now I am unable to switch to a tty. my screen just goes power-off
[01:33] <electuZ> how can i disable automount of cdrom in konqueror(KDE)
[01:33] <anthrax> ...again
[01:33] <jerware> sudo passwd root is great!  why didnt I think of that.  thanx alot Snake_
[01:33] <Snake__> Not sure
[01:34] <Snake__> jerware: no problem
[01:34] <jerware> yea im new to kubuntu.  i just migrated from fedora,
[01:34] <Snake__> Ah
[01:34] <Snake__> Fun
[01:34] <jerware> indeed
[01:34] <Snake__> jerware: is fedora nice?
[01:35] <jerware> ehh it kinda spoils ya.  it a "their way" thing.  the desktop sucks.  hardly detects hardware.  dont use it unless if you HAVE to studdy for RHCE
[01:35] <Snake__> lol
[01:36] <zerephath> nalioth you about?
[01:36] <jerware> for example, if i wanted to view a list of services in fedora with the coresponding cron levels, fedora provides the chkconfig command.  this is nice, but now i have to unlearn old habbits and learn the universal linux way
[01:36] <B1zz> when I do fetch updates on adept some sites report errors.  Could that be a reson why it adept complains about installing akode-mpeg or does that really break your system?
[01:36] <Snake__> zerephath: no hes not
[01:36] <Snake__> jerware: yea...
[01:37] <zerephath> Snake__: K...I looked and didnt see him..sometimes he is lurking as a different user :)
[01:37] <jerware> fedora has minicom terminal (which i use to configure my cisco routers),  what is the terminal for ubuntu ?
[01:37] <Snake__> jerware: I was like that coming off windows, i've only been on linux since november
[01:37] <jerware> ahh
[01:37] <Snake__> minicom terminal?
[01:38] <jerware> ive been into linux for about two years.
[01:38] <jerware> yea i get command not found
[01:38] <zerephath> What do I need to do to get smb4k to work suid root? I can't mount shares without this enabled...and am not sure how this is accomplished under ubuntu? I am wondering why synaptic didn't install this way...
[01:38] <jerware> does kubuntu have a web site of unofficial faqs?  for basic stuff like installing,  i know how to navigate the *NIX file system,
[01:39] <zerephath> jerware: Best bet is the ubuntu wiki
[01:39] <jerware> oh ok
[01:39] <zerephath> There are others as well
[01:39] <ryanakca> how do you clear all of your old gpg keys
[01:40] <ryanakca> not exactly old, but extra keys made while experimenting
[01:40] <r2> guys i dont have sound on my videos using VLC how can i download codecs for it?
[01:40] <jerware> when i was in the process of installing kubuntu, i had some sort of flaw that i could not install about 25% of the packages, (perhalps a cd scratch) and i have to install these by hand.  do you guys have minicom ?
[01:40] <Snake__> jerware: its in the repos
[01:41] <Snake__> jerware: sudo apt-get install minicom
[01:41] <jerware> ok i'll have to learn apt-get sometime then
[01:41] <jerware> oh ok thanx
[01:41] <jerware> the fedora equivilance for apt-get is yum
[01:41] <jerware> more like yuck
[01:41] <jerware> lol
[01:41] <Snake__> Yea, I used redhat 7 for a bit
[01:42] <Snake__> jerware: have you added the universe repos to your sources.list?
[01:42] <jerware> i dont know, unless if thats a default then no
[01:42] <Snake__> jerware: read this over
[01:42] <Snake__> !sources
[01:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:42] <jerware> i have the  latest kubuntu or at least what is available upon download
[01:42] <jerware> ok thanx pal
[01:42] <Snake__> jerware: read the how to, then add in the breezy list
[01:42] <visik7> anyone able to play a winxp image installed in qemu on vmplayer ?
[01:43] <r2> guys what is the best video player to play xvid?
[01:44] <Snake__> r2: if kaffine plays it, thats pretty good
[01:44] <anthrax> still needing help. I just installed the nvidia drivers. they work fine. but now I am unable to switch to a tty. my screen just goes power-off (just in case anyone new turned up...)
[01:45] <jerware> im off to the library to studdy for a finite math test.  anyone have any goodies for a kubuntu, but not linux, newbie?
[01:45] <freeflying-ibook> Hobbsee: hi
[01:45] <r2> Snake__: i would need codecs toplay there, i downloaded VLC but haveno sound
[01:45] <Hobbsee> hi freeflying-ibook
[01:45] <freeflying-ibook> Hobbsee: what gb mirrors?
[01:46] <Snake__> jerware: listen to music?
[01:46] <jerware> yes
[01:46] <Hobbsee> freeflying-ibook: gb instead of us/au/whatever
[01:46] <jerware> all means of multimedia
[01:46] <jerware> movies
[01:46] <Snake__> jerware: got that mp3 codec installed?
[01:46] <jerware> still figuring out how to use dvd
[01:46] <jerware> heh doubt it.  i can google around for the apt-get commands
[01:46] <Snake__> !mp3
[01:46] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.13 Stopped
[01:46] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:46] <Snake__> ;)
[01:47] <jerware> thanx :P
[01:51] <dsaa|away> is it posible to install kubuntu directly from HD to HD?
[01:51] <zero0> kubuntu live CD w/ KOffice 1.5 beta 1 0wn3d
[01:53] <Snake__> zero0: ya like it?
[01:54] <zero0> yep
[01:54] <zero0> love it!
[01:54] <zero0> slow to boot up though
[01:54] <zero0> but as I use it, I like it more
[01:54] <Snake__> zero0: why not get 1.5 then?
[01:54] <Snake__> hehe
[01:54] <zero0> i'm using 1.5
[01:55] <zero0> kontact w/ RSS feeds is nice
[01:55] <zero0> i don't have to visit the websites to look at the headings :)
[01:55] <Snake__> yea
[01:55] <zero0> i like the jounal feature of kontact
[01:55] <zero0> sweet
[01:55] <zero0> i can keep track of my thoughts for the day
[01:55] <Snake__> lol
[01:56] <zero0> kivio improved quite remarkably
[01:56] <zero0> i like the dash green line to help me visualize the alignment of the objects
[01:57] <zero0> a bad thing I noticed is konqueror doesn't work with Zimbra
[01:57] <Snake__> kivio? whats that do?
[01:58] <Snake__> TiVO?
[01:58] <Snake__> lol
[01:58] <zero0> Kivio is like Visio
[01:58] <Snake__> Oook... lol
[01:58] <zero0> it's a flowcharting program
[01:58] <Snake__> pjjj plau
[01:58] <zero0> I use Visio a lot
[01:58] <Snake__> /////
[01:58] <Snake__> er
[01:58] <Snake__> Ohhh okayu
[01:58] <zero0> I do a lot of process work
[01:58] <zero0> and I need to map our pictorial how the process goes
[01:59] <zero0> that's how I get my people on the same process flow
[01:59] <zero0> i'm very happy with Kubuntu especially with KOffice
[01:59] <Snake__> koffice is tight
[01:59] <zero0> if Kivio can have inline text for the objects that would be awesome
[02:00] <zero0> somehow the visual is not as crisp as Windows XP
[02:00] <zero0> I guessed that's an X problem
[02:01] <zero0> i like kopete
[02:01] <brydenn> anyone here a WINE expert or know the program really well?
[02:01] <brydenn> i need some help with it
[02:01] <anthrax> a bit. wassup?
[02:01] <brydenn> thanks anthrax
[02:01] <zero0> i hate kwallet
[02:02] <brydenn> well i accidently deleted my "c drive" in winecfg
[02:02] <brydenn> i need to add it again
[02:02] <brydenn> dont know how
[02:02] <anthrax> xterm->winecfg
[02:02] <anthrax> tab "Drives" -> add
[02:02] <anthrax> or better Automatic
[02:02] <brydenn> i did autodetect
[02:02] <anthrax> should do I think
[02:03] <brydenn> but it still says i dont have a c drive
[02:03] <brydenn> "No virtual drive C mapped"
[02:03] <brydenn> thats the error it gives me
[02:03] <brydenn> then it says to run wineprefixcreate
[02:03] <anthrax> hmmm. what did you type into the "Path" field?
[02:04] <anthrax> add it manually. type into "Path" [../drive_c]  wiothout the []  then hit ADD
[02:04] <brydenn> anthrax:  when i just hit ADD (and not do autodetect) it adds a C: drive with ../drive_c in the "path"
[02:04] <anthrax> should do then
[02:04] <brydenn> but... when i hit apply... it wont stay
[02:05] <anthrax> hmmm
[02:05] <anthrax> mom gotta check
[02:05] <brydenn> k
[02:06] <anthrax> check /home/YOURNAMEHERE/.wine   for a folder called drive_c
[02:06] <brydenn> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[02:06] <brydenn> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[02:06] <brydenn> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[02:06] <brydenn> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[02:06] <brydenn> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[02:06] <brydenn> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[02:06] <brydenn> oopps sorry
[02:07] <anthrax> as for now, I just deleted my drive_c and it came back happily after hitting automatic... so i suppose the folder beneath is gone.
[02:08] <brydenn> ok anthrax : the folder .wine is there
[02:08] <brydenn> i opened it up and drive_c is there as well
[02:08] <fatejudger> why does Kate always try and open files with weird extensions downloaded by Konqueror?
[02:08] <fatejudger> and is there a way to stop it from doing that?
[02:08] <_mrono> hey guys
[02:08] <anthrax> brydenn: do you have winetools?
[02:09] <brydenn> no i dont
[02:09] <brydenn> download it?
[02:09] <anthrax> then try this: cp your drive_c folder to somewhere safe, then delete the one in your .wine/
[02:09] <anthrax> then winecfg and hit Automatig -> apply
[02:10] <brydenn> you mean autodetect?
[02:10] <anthrax> right
[02:10] <Weridkid> how do I set a root password
[02:10] <anthrax> got it in german, though
[02:10] <anthrax> then cp drive_c back and winecfg it again
[02:10] <duckdown> Hi everyone.. I'm trying to run the ./configure for a new version of kVIRC, but surprisingly enough its telling me to specify my X-includes directory and X-headers manually with some commandline arguments.  Can someone tell me where both of those are located?  And/or do I need to apt-get any important files?
[02:10] <brydenn> anthrax:  thats the thing... it doesnt even show up in WineCFG
[02:11] <brydenn> i only have Drives E F G H and Z
[02:11] <anthrax> right, because the winereg killed it.
[02:11] <brydenn> C doesnt even show up after i hit Autodetect
[02:11] <brydenn> so copy the folder to the desktop for example
[02:11] <brydenn> then what?
[02:11] <anthrax> then winecfg -autodetect
[02:11] <brydenn> k hold up :)
[02:12] <anthrax> pardon, winecfg -> drives -> autodetect
[02:12] <anthrax> so wine should kill even thememory of a drive c.
[02:12] <brydenn> do i have to worry about the folder "dosservices"?
[02:12] <brydenn> i mean "dosdevices"
[02:12] <brydenn> not services hehe
[02:12] <anthrax> ? huh ? i dont even got that one...
[02:13] <anthrax> ah, i got it allright
[02:13] <brydenn> hehe
[02:13] <brydenn> see
[02:13] <brydenn> go to the dosdevices folder
[02:13] <anthrax> but as it is a drive problem dosdevices shoukdn't be affectet
[02:13] <brydenn> you'll see your drive letters with folders
[02:13] <brydenn> just do this for me really quick
[02:13] <brydenn> net split
[02:13] <brydenn> damn
[02:14] <anthrax> hmm.
[02:14] <anthrax> idea:
[02:14] <brydenn> k
[02:14] <anthrax> terminal -> ln -s /home/whatever/.wine/drive_c /home/whatever/.wine/dosdevices/c:
[02:14] <brydenn> see in my dosdevices folder... all the DRIVES are "folder shortcuts" .. drive C is there but only appears as a file shortcut
[02:15] <brydenn> not a folder
[02:15] <anthrax> as i said: try the ln -s thingy...
[02:15] <anthrax> then we'll see
[02:16] <brydenn> give me the command again
[02:16] <anthrax> terminal -> ln -s /home/whatever/.wine/drive_c /home/whatever/.wine/dosdevices/c:
[02:16] <brydenn> what is IN?
[02:16] <anthrax> LN
[02:17] <anthrax> places a symlink
[02:17] <brydenn> auh
[02:17] <bushito> !ati
[02:17] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:17] <anthrax> !nvidia
[02:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:18] <brydenn> brydenn@c-24-21-100-158:~$ ln -s /home/brydenn/.wine/drive_c /home/brydenn/.wine/dosdevices/c:
[02:18] <brydenn> ln: `/home/brydenn/.wine/dosdevices/c:': File exists
[02:18] <brydenn> hey anthrax :
[02:18] <brydenn> so that seemed to work
[02:18] <brydenn> lets see if it changed winecfg
[02:18] <anthrax> nope
[02:18] <anthrax> it didn't write
[02:18] <brydenn> :(
[02:18] <brydenn> do i have to do it as sudo?
[02:19] <anthrax> maybe...
[02:19] <anthrax> do Terminal-> sudo mv /allthatstuff/c: /allthatstuff/
[02:19] <anthrax> so it will be kept safe
[02:19] <brydenn> what is mv?
[02:19] <anthrax> move
[02:20] <anthrax> then check if the original file is gone and the backup's there
[02:20] <anthrax> if so, sudo the ln -s thingy
[02:21] <anthrax> Still needing help: After installation of the nvidia-drivers my screen cuts out if i try to switch to a tty. any suggestions on what to do?
[02:21] <electuZ> what does mean that '|o|'?
[02:21] <anthrax> lol?
[02:22] <brydenn> anthrax
[02:22] <brydenn> i think i know what the problem is
[02:22] <anthrax> yup?
[02:22] <electuZ> anthrax: yes..
[02:22] <anthrax> you didn't run winecfg as sudo
[02:22] <anthrax> right?
[02:22] <brydenn> in the folder dosdevices... the C file is "pointing to" /mnt/cdrom/
[02:22] <anthrax> ah! so a wrong sym
[02:22] <brydenn> yah but how do i change it?
[02:23] <brydenn> i just went to properties on the file and saw that
[02:23] <anthrax> is it owned by root?
[02:23] <brydenn> but i dont see a way for me to point it else where
[02:23] <brydenn> no ownership is by Brydenn :)
[02:23] <LiteHedded> my sound isn't working
[02:24] <LiteHedded> can someone help me get it straightened out?
[02:24] <anthrax> great. move it somewhere else so there is no c: left in dosdevices and then go ln -s again
[02:24] <anthrax> brydenn: that should do the trick
[02:24] <brydenn> k this time it didnt say "file exists"?
[02:25] <brydenn> so now move it back?
[02:25] <anthrax> nope. now try winecfg
[02:25] <anthrax> we only kept the original so we had a backup.
[02:25] <LiteHedded> anyone?
[02:25] <brydenn> haha
[02:25] <anthrax> you just created a new "c:"
[02:25] <brydenn> ok it found it in autodetect
[02:25] <brydenn> so now what?
[02:25] <brydenn> replace it?
[02:25] <brydenn> move it back?
[02:26] <anthrax> so now it should run.
[02:26] <anthrax> you can now delete the backups we made
[02:26] <brydenn> well i moved the original to the desktop
[02:26] <anthrax> go ahead and kill it
[02:26] <brydenn> SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeet!!!!
[02:26] <brydenn> thank you soooooooo much anthrax
[02:26] <anthrax> np.
[02:27] <brydenn> ya know... i've had good luck with people by the name of anthrax
[02:27] <anthrax> *g* how's that?
[02:27] <brydenn> i used to be in a Team Fortress Classic clan with a guy named Anthrax
[02:27] <brydenn> he was cool as hell, ... thank you :)
[02:27] <anthrax> as i said np. but I gotta go sleeping now. works on in about 4 hours
[02:28] <brydenn> thanks anthrax. get some rest :)
[02:28] <anthrax> cYa around and have fun *wave*
[02:28] <Plouj> :/
[02:29] <Plouj> can someone help me at least figure out whats wrong? -> http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu{1,2,3}.jpg
[02:31] <Perma> Hi. my breezy install has detected my wifi nic, but says it's an unknown device. I have configured ndiswrapper already, i just need to tell it that the nic is indeed a nic. Thanks in advance :)
[02:31] <Plouj> Perma: thanks for what?
[02:32] <Perma> For any potential help i could get on this - i'm too used to being babied by yast+SuSE to know how to do this myself
[02:32] <Plouj> help with that?
[02:32] <Perma> yeah
[02:33] <Plouj> that wasn't a yes/no question
[02:33] <Plouj> doh
[02:33] <Perma> lol
[02:33] <Plouj> help with *what?
[02:33] <Perma> I am copy/past what i wrote
[02:33] <Perma>  Hi. my breezy install has detected my wifi nic, but says it's an unknown device. I have configured ndiswrapper already, i just need to tell it that the nic is indeed a nic. Thanks in advance :)
[02:33] <Perma> maybe the first bit didn't send, or?
[02:33] <Perma> need to tell my system that the unknown device is a nick
[02:34] <Perma> **nic
[02:34] <Plouj> ah, that wasn't exactly clear
[02:34] <Perma> sorry
[02:34] <Plouj> what says its an unknown device?
[02:34] <Perma> KinfoCenter does
[02:34] <Plouj> aha!
[02:35] <Plouj> well, lets wait for someone experienced in that piece of software to help you
[02:35] <Perma> ookie doke
[02:35] <Perma> thanky
[02:36] <Plouj> lol, there should be a channel for those waiting for their questions to be answered
[02:36] <Perma> lol
[02:37] <Plouj> Homer Simpson: Now we play the waiting game! He-he-he! ... 2 seconds later ... The waiting game sucks!
[02:37] <Perma> lmao
[02:37] <Perma> haven't heard that quote in ages
[02:37] <_hupp3l> I know this is probably not the place to ask but what makes Suse so special?
[02:37] <Plouj> nothing
[02:37] <Plouj> windows is special, on the other hand
[02:38] <hupp3l> no man I would like to know, I heard alot about Suse
[02:38] <Plouj> ask someone who tells you about it
[02:38] <Perma> suse will work out of the box
[02:39] <Plouj> or try it yourself
[02:39] <Nomad411> try #suse ;)
[02:39] <Perma> kinda commercialized and such
[02:39] <Plouj> trying it yourself is best
[02:39] <Nomad411> solid for serer work, like a redhat equivalent
[02:39] <Perma> i agree
[02:39] <Nomad411> server
[02:39] <Perma> brb, 15 - show
[02:39] <Perma> er
[02:39] <Plouj> I'm trying to install Kubuntu to try what *buntu is all about
[02:39] <Plouj> to be honest
[02:40] <Nomad411> very great, it's my main desktop.
[02:40] <Nomad411> server-side I dunno, I don,t think it aims to be a server
[02:40] <Nomad411> though I am developing against it with PHP and mysql
[02:40] <Nomad411> btu it does slow me down
[02:40] <Plouj> well
[02:40] <Plouj> I would like to get it working, FFS!
[02:41] <Plouj> I think it doesn't install proper SATA drivers or something
[02:41] <Plouj> but I can't help it :/
[02:41] <Nomad411> what's not working?
[02:41] <Plouj> the installed kernel is panicing
[02:41] <Nomad411> with your kubuntu&
[02:41] <Plouj> paniking, or whatever
[02:41] <Nomad411> ?
[02:41] <Plouj> yes
[02:41] <Plouj> here, let me illustrate
[02:41] <Plouj> http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu1.jpg
[02:42] <Plouj> then
[02:42] <Nomad411> well, linux is pickier abotu hardware issues, quite a loty more than windows.
[02:42] <Plouj> http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu2.jpg
[02:42] <Plouj> then
[02:42] <Plouj> http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu3.jpg
[02:42] <Nomad411> so you muct be detecting some hardware trouble, like faulty ram or HD
[02:42] <Plouj> my hardware is not faulty
[02:42] <Plouj> I'm working from Linux right now
[02:42] <Plouj> just not Kubuntu
[02:42] <Nomad411> ok
[02:42] <Plouj> see if those image make any sense
[02:43] <Plouj> I tried to install Kubuntu alongside Gentoo
[02:43] <Plouj> and I chose not to install grub, since I already have that
[02:43] <Nomad411> lol - That,s what I call screen captures. :)
[02:43] <Plouj> but when I try to boot the Kubuntu kernel, it panics
[02:43] <Plouj> ;)
[02:44] <Nomad411> sda7 is where you installed it?
[02:44] <Plouj> yup
[02:45] <Nomad411> from gentoo, can you mount and read that device?
[02:45] <Plouj> well
[02:45] <Plouj> even grub could
[02:45] <Plouj> yup
[02:46] <Plouj> its reiserfs alright
[02:46] <Nomad411> You must b emissing a parameter for SCSIbooting.. I haven"t had to seal with SCSI in a while I forget
[02:46] <Nomad411> !SCSI
[02:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[02:46] <Nomad411> !scsi
[02:46] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[02:46] <Plouj> Nomad411: its a SATA disk
[02:46] <Plouj> humm
[02:46] <Nomad411> oh
[02:47] <Plouj> nforce4 chipset
[02:47] <Plouj> can't remember which kernel driver
[02:47] <Plouj> heh
[02:47] <Nomad411> I haven,t had to use SATA yet either, too broke :(
[02:47] <Plouj> broke?
[02:47] <Plouj> ah
[02:47] <Plouj> I'm using sata_nv module/driver
[02:48] <Plouj> or, thats the one that works perfectly for my chipset
[02:48] <Plouj> I wonder if kubuntu kernel has .config
[02:49] <Plouj> :/ /mnt/tmphome/usr/src/ is empty
[02:49] <Plouj> err, /mnt/tmphome is where i mounted sda7 btw
[02:50] <Plouj> aha!
[02:50] <Plouj> grep -i sata_nv /mnt/tmphome/boot/config-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[02:50] <Plouj> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV=m
[02:50] <Plouj> so its built in as a module
[02:50] <Plouj> how sad
[02:51] <Nomad411> Sorry, was away trying to install XP on an old 20 gigs.. I need money
[02:51] <Nomad411> So have you figured it out?
[02:51] <Plouj> yeah
[02:51] <Plouj> the problem that is
[02:55] <Plouj> I do _not_ want to built a custom kernel for kubuntu
[02:56] <Nomad411> !sata
[02:56] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[03:02] <duckdown> Hey all.. I generally don't use Gnome, but I need a problem that needs full GTK+ 2.0+ functionality.  What do I need to install?
[03:03] <xwolf-> is there a kde gaim-like program?
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> konversation?
[03:03] <duckdown> xwolf-: Kopete
[03:03] <xwolf-> besides these two
[03:03] <xwolf-> :P
[03:03] <duckdown> kopete is amazing..
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> duckdown: try installing it, and it should pullin dependancies
[03:03] <duckdown> Kamping_Kaiser: Nah, its a ./configure, its source
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> duckdown: oh, right.
[03:04] <duckdown> oh neat.
[03:04] <duckdown> theres a package for it :-)
[03:04] <duckdown> Thanks anyhoo :)
[03:06] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: someone said you got XGL working in KDE
[03:07] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: is this true?
[03:07] <Mez> whats the best thing to play 3gp files with in kubuntu ?
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: got it going in Gnome, but it should be more or less the same
[03:07] <fatejudger> lol
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> *waves window about*
[03:07] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: I can't find anyone who's done it in KDE
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: be the first!
[03:07] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: I tried
[03:08] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: and broke my Dapper install
[03:08] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: I just reinstalled a couple of hours ago
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: what went wrong?
[03:08] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: X would hang when trying to boot
[03:08] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: are you a KDE user or Gnome user?
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: so it didnt even get to KDE? Gnome user
[03:09] <Snake__> Kamping_Kaiser: ya found em
[03:09] <Snake__> lol
[03:09] <Snake__> :)
[03:09] <fatejudger> why does everyone use Gnome damnit
[03:09] <fatejudger> can't there be ONE person who's done it in KDE?
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: lol
[03:10] <Snake__> lol
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> i just followed the wiki and with 2 problems it Just Worked
[03:10] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, well the wiki is for Gnome
[03:11] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: everything is for Gnome
[03:11] <Snake__> fatejudger: time to get gnome.
[03:11] <Snake__> :P
[03:11] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: and I have an ATI card
[03:11] <fatejudger> the day I get Gnome will be the same day I buy a Mac
[03:11] <fatejudger> which is never
[03:11] <Snake__> lol
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> classic
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: most of the steps are exactly the same (or were)
[03:12] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: SOME are the same
[03:12] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: most deal with restarting gnome
[03:12] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: or editing gnome config files
[03:13] <Snake__> Ahh so it finally crashed.
[03:13] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: what's alt+tab :P
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. a feature :P_
[03:14] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: I was being sarcastic
[03:15] <mrkris> anyone here use user-mode-linux ?
[03:16] <spuck> coming from Gentoo: installed kubuntu from the disk, now what to do for KDE? (don't yet know how to use apt-get correctly and don't want to mess up)
[03:16] <SkrotFFS> Anyone here got a Sony PSP and is using it with konqueror/ioslaves?
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> you should have KDE if you have Kubuntu
[03:17] <mrkris> kstart->system->Adept(package manager)
[03:18] <spuck> Kamping_Kaiser: how to update and find out? (too much emerge, learning...)
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> spuck: if it's blue, it's KDE. if it's brown, it's Gnome. or are you after a particular KDE?
[03:20] <spuck> Kamping_Kaiser: it's dual boot windows (I'm on that horrid system now), boots to run level 3 (no problem with that if I can startx)
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: yes, the tute is very Gnome-centric. what happens when it breaks
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> spuck: it's booting to runlevel 2 btw.
[03:20] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: like I said, it just hangs when it boots
[03:20] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: says that it can't find the fglrx modules or something
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: that's not very discriptve :(
[03:21] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: but fglrx works fine
[03:21] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: I wish someone who's done this before could try it in KDE
[03:21] <spuck> Kamping_Kaiser:OK... text... want to update system, sorry, I should RTFM...
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: i would go and do it now, but i don't want to reboot :$
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> spuck: lol. np.
[03:22] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: cmon, someone has to figure it out
[03:22] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: do you have an ATI card or NVidia card?
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> spuck: to update you need to remove the comments from some lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run `sudo apt-get update ` and then `sudo apt-get dist-ugrade`
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> fatejudger: nvidia
[03:22] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: damn
[03:22] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: still though, it would be helpful
[03:24] <spuck> Damn, you guys, quite scrolling, i'm trying to write down what Kamping_Kaiser said
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. sorry
[03:24] <fatejudger> does anyone know of a superkaramba theme that works with KCalender?
[03:26] <spuck> OK, keep scrolling, I got it wrote down :)
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. wd spuck
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> spuck: for the stuff you want in your sources list type in !sources in the channel
[03:28] <spuck> hey, keep going- I'm gonna reboot to kubuntu and follow the damn directions... see ya!
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. later mate
[03:29] <spuck> tanks! bugeye
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> this is going to take forever, *wonders why he's bothereing*
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> *bothers anyway*
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> danm laptop wont boot cdrom o_0
[03:45] <crxyem> anyone awake ??
[03:45] <eltee> i am!
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> depends whos asking :)
[03:45] <crxyem> well hello, are you familiar with ndiswrapper ??
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[03:46] <eltee> same here, sorry
[03:46] <sambagirl> hello
[03:47] <sambagirl> i made a big mistake on my xp and i am using live disk now
[03:47] <sambagirl> what do i type to mount a hard drive ?
[03:47] <sambagirl> mount what?
[03:47] <eltee> try just mount
[03:47] <eltee> i can't really be trusted for help, considering I have only had this for 1 hour :(
[03:48] <Satria_Konyol> hi
[03:48] <crxyem>  sambagirl do you know whether your winxp partition is /dev/hda0 or /dev/sda0 etc..
[03:48] <crimsun> sambagirl: what volume? Is it an older Kubuntu install or Windows XP?
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> remember - xp=ntfs
[03:49] <eltee> you can still mount it though?
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, but not write
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> and if your trying to fix xp by using a live cd, you need to write (i would have thought0
[03:50] <crxyem> it would be something along the nature of sudo mount /dev/hda0 /media/windows ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[03:50] <eltee> how can you get amarok to access files from a ntfs sda
[03:50] <eltee> mine says cannot open folder
[03:50] <eltee> sadness
[03:50] <sambagirl> hold on sorry i was in ubuntu
[03:50] <crxyem> which will give read write access, but keep in mind writing to ntfs isn't foolproof
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> the ubuntu kernel wont write ntfs i thought
[03:51] <crimsun> err
[03:51] <crimsun> that fstab line isn't correct syntax for mount
[03:51] <sambagirl> sda0
[03:51] <crimsun> you'd either use mount syntax or fstab directly
[03:51] <sambagirl> hda0 looks like amiga styule
[03:52] <crxyem> yeah sorry , I confused the two, thats an fstab command
[03:53] <sambagirl> now what happened was that i was messing around with something in xp and i had to shut down and now it is not working i tryied using 2000 disk to brinkg it up as mounting on that but that did not work too so now i am just trying to see if i can even see the disk to try to recover important things on there.
[03:53] <sambagirl> fstab ?
[03:53] <Mez> !ops
[03:53] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[03:53] <sambagirl> ok let me try this
[03:53] <Mez> o_O
[03:53] <nalioth> Mez: ?
[03:53] <Mez> nalioth: It's got the wrong ops for this channel :D
[03:54] <lint> Someone mind pointing me to a page that talks about proper installation and maintenance of ubuntu/kubuntu?
[03:54] <nalioth> Mez: you want !kops
[03:54] <Mez> ] I was testing if it had the right ops :D
[03:54] <Mez> lol
[03:54] <Mez> !kops
[03:54] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fooishbar, haggai, amu, uniq, Mez, seth_k, nikkia, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek
[03:54] <lint> for exmaple i just apt-get install'd gimp, and i have no idea where it is ;x
[03:54] <nalioth> Mez: why not do that in a PM, you're calling the kops
[03:54] <Mez> nalioth, meh - it should be context sensitive
[03:54] <crxyem> ok well I don't need so much ndis help, it's still a wireless bit, anyone familiar with iwconfig ??
[03:54] <Mez> ubotu - it works in PM?
[03:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mez
[03:54] <nalioth> Mez: all factoids work in a pm
[03:54] <Mez> ah ok
[03:55] <lint> Anyone?
[04:00] <sambagirl> i get this error
[04:00] <sambagirl> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # /dev/hda1 /media/windows vfat umask=000 0 0
[04:00] <sambagirl> bash: /dev/hda1: Permission denied
[04:01] <crimsun> no, incorrect syntax
[04:01] <darkbutterfly> i'm having problems getting amarok to  play radio streams does anyone  have any suggestions as to what i  can do to fix it?
[04:01] <crimsun> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows umask=000
[04:01] <crimsun> err
[04:01] <crimsun> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -o umask=000
[04:02] <sambagirl> OK LET ME TRY
[04:02] <sambagirl> HDA1 IS FOR DRIVE 1?
[04:02] <sambagirl> OR DRIVE 0?
[04:03] <stoned> I have an hp multimedia/internet keyboard, I am using ubuntu/kubuntu and I can't seem to find how to make those extra keys.  How can I findout which keycodes those extra keys are sending, and then assign commands to those keys
[04:03] <Plouj> damn, kubunu forums are slow
[04:03] <Nomad411> If I want to low-level format a HD from linux, do I need software from teh maker (Quantum?) or is there a utility on there already?
[04:04] <stoned> its an HP-H7630 keyboard
[04:05] <Plouj> Nomad411: wouldn't dd do that?
[04:05] <Plouj> is there something lower than that?
[04:05] <xwolf-> how do i put links in kopete message windows to be opened on firefox?
[04:07] <Plouj> Nomad411: http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/faq/ata_llfmt_what.html
[04:08] <Plouj> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_format
[04:08] <sambagirl> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows busy
[04:09] <sambagirl> it says busy
[04:11] <Nomad411> thanks.. I'm really not at my best tonight, ill..  Probably should not be trying to install windows at all :)
[04:11] <sambagirl> it says it is alreayd mounted.
[04:11] <sambagirl> where?
[04:12] <crxyem> so anyone have any idea why I need to run iwconfig everytime I reboot, to get my wireless back up running ??
[04:15] <bimberi> Congratulations Hobbsee!
[04:16] <Hobbsee> bimberi: thankyou :D
[04:16] <bimberi> :)
[04:16] <bimberi> Hobbsee: so ... where's the cloak then?
[04:18] <Hobbsee> bimberi: not sure, i'm told that i have to ask seveas about it
[04:19] <Plouj> grr
[04:19] <bimberi> Hobbsee: ah, ok :)
[04:19] <Plouj> this is gay
[04:21] <Plouj> I need SATA_NV builtin!!
[04:25] <Nomad411> Plouj: read this: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/461601.html
[04:25] <Nomad411> change bios to legacy, install Kubuntu, recompile kernel and then switch back to SATA
[04:25] <Plouj> rofl
[04:26] <Plouj> ridiculous
[04:26] <Plouj> I don't think I can change to legacy
[04:26] <Hobbsee> bimberi: waiting on an answer, but he's been idle for 2 hours already
[04:26] <Plouj> otherwise my raid controller just turns of or something
[04:27] <Nomad411> :(
[04:28] <bimberi> Hobbsee: Not suprising really - 04:28 in .nl  :)
[04:29] <Hobbsee> bimberi: hehe, true
[04:31] <xwolf-> how do i put links in kopete message windows to be opened on firefox?
[04:32] <juan> ?
[04:38] <errr> does anyone know how to get around having to use my cd to play ut2k4..?
[04:39] <biovore> you don't need a cd in linux
[04:39] <Plouj> not with the latest patch
[04:39] <biovore> and in windows.. just get the latest patch
[04:39] <errr> hmm thats what I have though, but my buddy has emailed me saying he keeps having to use his, I wonder if he installed it in wine or something
[04:40] <biovore> 3366
[04:40] <biovore> there is a UT bin for linux
[04:40] <errr> yeah I sent him an email to use linuxinstaller.sh or what ever its called
[04:40] <biovore> works best of a dvd ed..
[04:41] <errr> ok, well thanks, Ill check if he got it installed using wine or something
[04:42] <Plouj> there is a newer ut2k4
[04:42] <Plouj> http://icculus.org/news/news.php?id=2548
[04:46] <eltee> how can I unlock a old partition that is ntfs
[04:47] <eltee> under all apps it has a lock by it
[04:47] <biovore> eltee: unlock?
[04:50] <Hobbsee> eltee: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0 <-- adapt that line in /etc/fstab to suit your windows drive and the problem should go away
[04:51] <eltee> it says permission denied
[04:52] <Snake__> eltee: use sudo
[04:52] <eltee> this is my first hour on linux
[04:52] <eltee> what is this sudo you speak of
[04:52] <Snake__> eltee: put sudeo before that command
[04:52] <Snake__> sudo gives you "root" rights, or the power to change anything
[04:52] <Snake__> Oops
[04:52] <Snake__> sudo**
[04:52] <biovore> sudo runs stuff as root (aka god)
[04:53] <Snake__> eltee: sudo /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[04:53] <httpdss> eltee: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:53] <biovore> sudo mount .....
[04:53] <Snake__> LOL
[04:53] <Snake__> Ahhhhhhhhhh I didnt see that
[04:53] <Snake__> oops
[04:53] <Snake__> dont do what I said
[04:53] <biovore> lolz
[04:53] <dataangel> I want to upgrade to kubuntu dapper, but dist-upgrade says it's going to remove all KDE related packages. What am I doing wrong? :P
[04:53] <eltee> ok so ixnay on what snake said?>
[04:53] <dataangel> is there another repo for kubuntu dapper specifically?
[04:54] <biovore> dataangel: nothing.. new verson of kde
[04:54] <Snake__> biovore: put eltee through what he needs ta do :)
[04:54] <biovore> what is he tring to do?
[04:54] <dataangel> biovore: It's uninstalling like, amarok though. Shouldn't it just be upgrading it?
[04:54] <Snake__> biovore: add that to /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[04:54] <Snake__> Oops
[04:54] <Snake__> Man I am out of it.
[04:55] <Snake__> hes trying to add that line to his fstab
[04:55] <biovore> dataangel: when you go to upgrade kde from 3.4 to 3.5 it updates all the base libs to it has to remove everything and reinstall all new stuff
[04:55] <dataangel> biovore: I'm already running 3.5.1
[04:55] <biovore> is that what dapper is running?
[04:55] <dataangel> biovore: And again, shouldn't that be listed as a package upgrade instead of a package removal?
[04:55] <dataangel> biovore: Err, it should be.
[04:56] <biovore> hmm.. must be some strange dependency hangup
[04:56] <dataangel> biovore: I'm running the breezy versions of the packages from kubuntu.org
[04:56] <Snake__> eltee: ah screw it. Heres what you do: Type in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[04:56] <Snake__> Tell me when youve dont that
[04:56] <biovore> note to world: dapper is still in development..
[04:56] <Snake__> Done that**
[04:57] <Snake__> I guess he left.
[04:57] <Snake__> Lol
[04:57] <biovore> try /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
[04:57] <Snake__> biovore: he left
[04:57] <biovore> ah
[04:57] <Snake__> biovore: he wanted to add it to his fstab so he could boot it
[04:57] <biovore> stock kernel only support reads from ntfs.. no writes..
[04:57] <biovore> what?
[04:57] <biovore> noobs
[04:57] <biovore> thats what grub is for
[04:57] <Snake__> biovore: Why noobs?
[04:57] <Snake__> naw, I mean so that its mounted on boot
[04:58] <biovore> why?
[04:58] <biovore> that the most retarded thing ever
[04:58] <Snake__> why?
[04:58] <biovore> because /boot is where your kernel is..
[04:58] <biovore> mounting windows to /boot wont boot windows
[04:59] <Snake__> biovore: No, he wants his NTFS mounted when he goes onto kubuntu automatically
[04:59] <httpdss> biovore: defaults on ntfs is only for root ...
[04:59] <biovore> rgr
[04:59] <Snake__> Do you see what im saying?
[04:59] <biovore> I run a custom kernel thats has ntfs write support
[05:00] <Snake__> Arnt u l337 :P
[05:00] <biovore> he just needs to a line to hes /etc/fstab
[05:00] <biovore> done
[05:00] <Snake__> What do you think he was doing?
[05:00] <Snake__> sheesh
[05:00] <Snake__> lol
[05:00] <Snake__> [22:56]  < Snake__> eltee: ah screw it. Heres what you do: Type in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[05:00] <LiteHedded> my ati install hosed X!
[05:01] <Snake__> I believe it.
[05:01] <Snake__> Hehe
[05:01] <biovore> all I herd was someone talkning about mounting his windows disk to /boot to boot the thing..
[05:01] <LiteHedded> I'm typing this from the console beause i have no gui!
[05:01] <LiteHedded> can someone help me?
[05:01] <biovore> which don't work well
[05:01] <biovore> LiteHedded: did you do the nvidia thing?
[05:01] <LiteHedded> it's ATI
[05:02] <Snake__> Me neither... :-/
[05:02] <LiteHedded> dammit
[05:02] <Snake__> !ati
[05:02] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:02] <biovore> you tring to get the frlgl stuff working?
[05:02] <LiteHedded> yea
[05:02] <Snake__> biovore: hes tryin to get his X goin
[05:02] <Snake__> lol
[05:02] <biovore> it should work from install
[05:02] <Snake__> biovore: he hosed it..
[05:02] <Snake__> as he said on his entrence
[05:02] <biovore> unless his xorg.conf got smashed
[05:03] <biovore> did he make a backup of his xorg.conf (as the howto say to do)
[05:03] <Snake__> LiteHedded: did you back up?
[05:03] <biovore> (I guessing he didn't)
[05:03] <LiteHedded> heh
[05:03] <LiteHedded> what do you think?
[05:03] <Snake__> Nope
[05:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:04] <biovore> the simplest thing I can think of..
[05:04] <LiteHedded> i've redone the fglrx config thingie though it doesn't fix it
[05:04] <biovore> xorg -configure
[05:04] <biovore> and it should make a new xorg.conf file in /root
[05:04] <biovore> (run as root)
[05:04] <LiteHedded> when i do startx i get this ugly screen and it quits to console
[05:04] <LiteHedded> k sudo xorg -configure?
[05:04] <Snake__> owch
[05:04] <biovore> I think
[05:04] <biovore> its been a bit..
[05:04] <gamma> anyone know what window border this is? http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png
[05:04] <Snake__> hang on
[05:04] <LiteHedded> k i'll try it
[05:04] <biovore> there is a auto configure thing
[05:04] <Snake__> LiteHedded: one minute
[05:05] <Snake__> LiteHedded: ill get you the autoconfig
[05:05] <LiteHedded> i did the auto configure and it doesn't fix it
[05:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> ATI X200? X did that with my Kubuntu install.
[05:05] <LiteHedded> says no useable sreens found
[05:05] <Snake__> :(
[05:05] <LiteHedded> heh
[05:05] <sambagirl> what is the default pw for ssh
[05:05] <biovore> LiteHedded: I know :-)
[05:05] <LiteHedded> i do feel kinda leet using irssi this way though :P
[05:05] <biovore> sambagirl: ssh username@host
[05:05] <biovore> username password
[05:05] <sambagirl> thanks
[05:05] <biovore> username's password
[05:06] <LiteHedded> so what do I do biovore?
[05:06] <biovore> check you monitors horizontal sync and vertical refresh values
[05:06] <LiteHedded> ok I'll do that
[05:06] <biovore> that ussualy causes that problem
[05:06] <Snake__> Im done with tech support tonight. I'm messin up to much
[05:06] <LiteHedded> what's it's lcd
[05:06] <LiteHedded> so it doesn't have those
[05:06] <biovore> 15 connector?
[05:06] <biovore> (15 pin)
[05:06] <LiteHedded> connector?
[05:06] <LiteHedded> laptop
[05:06] <biovore> oh
[05:06] <LiteHedded> yeh
[05:07] <biovore> that a bit more pain in the ass
[05:07] <LiteHedded> lol
[05:07] <LiteHedded> great
[05:07] <biovore> what laptop?
[05:07] <LiteHedded> sager 5680
[05:07] <LiteHedded> it's a 15 inch
[05:07] <biovore> might have to good for the mode lines.. gl
[05:07] <LiteHedded> 1600x1200
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> I assume that you don't have the ATI X200 then. ;)
[05:07] <biovore> the lcd's on laptops are mostly crap and very picky
[05:07] <LiteHedded> fatal server error "no screens found"
[05:08] <biovore> (have to google for modelines)
[05:08] <LiteHedded> it's a mobility radeon 9600pro
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, not the same as mine then.
[05:08] <LiteHedded> i've installed the ati drivers several times before and not had this happen
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Which is the X200 BTW. ;)
[05:09] <biovore> LiteHedded: for more detail debug look at the file /var/log/xorg.0.log
[05:10] <sambagirl> i wanted to save a snapshot to floppy i am using live cd how do i find the floppy to save to it?
[05:11] <biovore> sambagirl: your running live cd and want to save a file to a floppy?
[05:12] <sambagirl> yes a snapshot for commands so i dont have to bother anyone wiith the same quesiotns for the commands a second time
[05:12] <sambagirl> see?
[05:12] <biovore> you mean like a cheet sheet?
[05:12] <sambagirl> yes
[05:13] <sambagirl> exactly
[05:13] <biovore> I had found one a while back for a buddy of mine that started learning unix..
[05:14] <gamma> anyone? http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png the window decoration
[05:14] <biovore> if you know that commands just use man <command>
[05:14] <sambagirl> haha
[05:14] <sambagirl> it;s for rememvering to mount a drive haha it's ok i will email it to myself thanks :;D
[05:14] <biovore> gamma: intressting
[05:15] <biovore> google on mount
[05:15] <gamma> that's the name? 0.o or just a cool ss?
[05:15] <biovore> well no window manager
[05:15] <biovore> its kde.. but QT isn't managing the windowing session it looks like
[05:16] <gamma> it'
[05:16] <gamma> err it's got something
[05:16] <gamma> just no buttons
[05:16] <gamma> look at the "about amarok"
[05:16] <Snake__> wow gamma is that really kde??
[05:16] <gamma> it's got a header.. it's just blended with the bg
[05:16] <biovore> looks like they blended it in
[05:16] <gamma> yes it's kde :P
[05:16] <Snake__> Wow..its so clean :)
[05:17] <biovore> you ge kbfx working yet?
[05:17] <Snake__> Good style gamma
[05:17] <gamma> http://home.cfl.rr.com/gamma/images/ss-kde.png is mine, but not as clean
[05:17] <gamma> i want that window decoration
[05:17] <Snake__> oh aw thats not yours?
[05:17] <Snake__> :(
[05:18] <Snake__> LOL
[05:18] <biovore> gamma: you look on kde-look.org for it?
[05:18] <Snake__> gamma: Lo bob you have pie?
[05:18] <Snake__> LOL
[05:18] <gamma> yea i'm looking on kde-look right now
[05:18] <gamma> i'm guessing it's native kwin or dekorator
[05:18] <chadwick|359> Can anybody help me get Ekiga working with netmeeting on xp, or suggest another windows compatable program to use?
[05:19] <LiteHedded> I'm just reinstalling
[05:20] <LiteHedded> reconfiguring xorg just wasn't working
[05:21] <bushito> !ati
[05:21] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:36] <julian> need help please
[05:37] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[05:37] <ubotu> methinks ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[05:37] <julian> someone speaks spanish?
[05:37] <biovore> I think there is a spanish channel
[05:37] <julian> i c
[05:37] <julian> my question is
[05:38] <julian> i've just installed kubuntu
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !es
[05:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> that spanish?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> or am i confused
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's Spanish.
[05:38] <julian> yes, that's right
[05:38] <Hobbsee> anyway, ask your question :)
[05:38] <Hobbsee> CheeseBurgerMan: oh good!
[05:38] <julian> but i'll ask anyway
[05:38] <Hobbsee> yep, go for it
[05:38] <julian> when i installed it, the make package had an error
[05:39] <Hobbsee> pastebin the make error?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[05:39] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:39] <julian> now, i want to install it manually
[05:39] <biovore> build-essential didn't grab make as a dep?
[05:39] <biovore> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:39] <biovore> ?
[05:40] <julian> uhm, i'm a newbie
[05:40] <Hobbsee> make's a dep of build-essential, yes - sounds like it had trouble installing or something
[05:40] <biovore> all the compiler tools (gcc,make,etc)
[05:40] <julian> i c
[05:40] <Hobbsee> julian: exactly what error did you get?  pastebin it
[05:40] <julian> i had a reading error
[05:40] <biovore> in a terminal type: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:41] <julian> i don't remember exactly what the error was
[05:41] <julian> but in 4 addresses it got an error
[05:51] <lint> Fun i cant get mplayer to isntall
[05:51] <gamma> anyone know what window border this is? http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png
[05:51] <lint> i keep getting broken package msg's
[05:52] <Hobbsee> lint: pastebin the error messages
[05:52] <Hobbsee> gamma: i've *never* seen that one before - where's the quit button or whatever???
[05:53] <lint> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/566263
[05:53] <_johnny_> Howdy!  I was wondering if I could get a quick suggestion.  I've loaded Breezy 64 on my laptop.  The second part of the install (sans CD) hangs at "Checking Battery Status".  Any ideas?
[05:54] <lint> Hobbsee: I also edited sources to this example http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:55] <gamma> Hobbsee: dunno :P he must have disabled it
[05:56] <Hobbsee> lint: and installing libjack0 gives you what?
[05:57] <lint> I wouldn't know?
[05:58] <lint> i try and install that, it says i need ljack
[05:58] <lint> then i need this, etc etc
[05:58] <lint> dear god
[05:58] <lint> wtf did i just type
[05:58] <Hobbsee> well keep going and find out what's finally broken hehe
[05:59] <lint> I think i just managed to uninstall everything
[06:00] <lint> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/566269
[06:01] <lint> that cant be good
[06:02] <Hobbsee> oh dear!
[06:02] <Hobbsee> why didnt you tell it no!
[06:02] <lint> because i kept going up the logical chain
[06:02] <Hobbsee> fair enough
[06:02] <lint> it said that the thing i needed depended on that
[06:02] <Hobbsee> hit ctrl+c
[06:02] <Hobbsee> to cancel it, then type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <lint> i just wiped my entire shit didn't i
[06:03] <Hobbsee> nah...it can be reinstalled fairly easily
[06:03] <Hobbsee> on dapper it seems fine - wonder why breezy doesnt like it
[06:03] <lint> im on dapper
[06:03] <ejofee> so isn't there any video player which lets me decide from which position to which position to automatically play each film on a playlist?
[06:04] <lint> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/566271
[06:04] <Hobbsee> yeah run sudo dpkg --configure -a first
[06:05] <lint> wow im fubard
[06:05] <ejofee> ... or plugin?
[06:05] <Hobbsee> nah, it just takes a bit of time, then you cna do it again
[06:05] <lint> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/566275
[06:06] <Hobbsee> what does sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop say?
[06:06] <Hobbsee> same error?
[06:06] <lint> nope
[06:06] <lint> it asks if something is acceptable
[06:06] <Hobbsee> pastebin what you see :P
[06:07] <lint> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/566276
[06:08] <Hobbsee> pft
[06:08] <Hobbsee> how close is your install cd?
[06:08] <lint> lol
[06:08] <lint> close by
[06:08] <Hobbsee> well, you probably can fix it by playing dependancy voodoo, but it may well be quicker to just reinstall off the cd
[06:09] <Hobbsee> is your /home on a separate partitoin?
[06:09] <lint> from what?
[06:09] <Hobbsee>  /
[06:09] <Hobbsee> lol
[06:09] <lint> *shrugs*
[06:09] <lint> whatever default is i have that
[06:09] <Hobbsee> ok
[06:09] <Hobbsee> do you know how to backup your /home partition?
[06:09] <lint> nope
[06:09] <Hobbsee> burn it to a cd or copy it to another drive that you wont be formatting
[06:10] <lint> i have to reinstall everything?
[06:10] <Hobbsee> may well be easiest
[06:10] <lint> lol
[06:10] <lint> thats for another day, i actually have to be productive and write an essay
[06:10] <lint> sometimes Microsoft is ok in my book
[06:10] <Hobbsee> but first...
[06:10] <lint> haha
[06:10] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:11] <lint> atleast in windows i can't wipe out all my stuff while trying to install a video codec
[06:11] <lint> ;D
[06:11] <Hobbsee> well, you can still remove c:/windows in windows, IIRC...
[06:41] <Hentai^XP> Hobbsee C:\windows
[06:58] <_slash> hi guys
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> hi
[07:14] <sambagirl> is crimsun still about?
[07:33] <freeflying> how to setup soundcard under dapper
[07:40] <stoned> i don't know if anyone cares, but i finally configured my multimedia keyboard using 'keytouch', hotkeys, xev, xmodmap etc. are hard to configure, this thing makes it really easy
[07:47] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -o umask=000 is this the corrent syntax for mounting vfat?
[07:50] <sambagirl> it says mount point does not exist
[07:50] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -o umask=000 is this right for vfat?
[08:01] <stoned> sampan, also -t vfat
[08:05] <_tim> hi everyone :D
[08:06] <yello> hey does neone know anything about getting mics to work on kubuntu?
[09:12] <kasim> hi, i can not use cdrecord with breezy and my external usb drive. Any hints pls?
[09:33] <mesaboogie1> hi rosemary
[09:33] <mesaboogie1> hey'all
[09:34] <rosemary> hi mesaboogie1
[09:34] <rosemary> how come I get a special greeting:-)
[09:35] <mesaboogie1> ur a kiwi, and thats special
[09:36] <mesaboogie1> hows ubuntu treating ya?
[09:36] <joe234> Clone Detected Nicks ( thoreauputic thoreauputic_ ) Hostmask (*!*@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic)  )= | 24 / 48
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi thoreauputic
[09:40] <thoreauputic_> hi Kamping_Kaiser :)
[09:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:42] <rosemary> mesaboogie1: thanks - to be honest have kubuntu installed but haven't had time to really try it out.  Main box is dual boot mandriva 2005/winXP which I ocassionally need for family tree and scanner
[09:43] <rosemary> rarely boot to winXP these days
[09:46] <samoura> hello someone here?
[09:46] <mesaboogie1> trudat
[09:46] <rosemary> been a steep learning curve from windows to linux (mandriva for me) and now of course some files are found in different places in debian based distros
[09:48] <samoura> kmenu/system/package manage and than i try to install some of those program and i get allweys ERROR;(
[09:48] <mesaboogie1> I'm @ the bottom of the curve atm, she's sharp alright
[09:48] <samoura> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. WHAT does it mean ;S
[09:49] <samoura> i cant install nothing
[09:50] <rosemary> mesaboogie1: so where are you from?
[09:50] <samoura> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. WHAT does it mean ;Splease help people
[09:51] <mesaboogie1> auckland, you?
[09:54] <samoura> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. WHAT does it mean ;Splease help people
[09:57] <rosemary> mesaboogie1: hawkes bay
[09:57] <rosemary> mesaboogie1: oh didn't realise you were a kiwi also :-)
[09:58] <samoura> rosemary help me please
[09:58] <rosemary> samoura: I will if I can, but am new to kubuntu
[09:59] <mesaboogie1> i just did [/who *.nz]  (i'm exploring) and thought id say hi
[09:59] <mesaboogie1> :)
[09:59] <mesaboogie1> bi
[10:00] <samoura> rosemary have you updated a video card?
[10:01] <samoura> how do i run bin files?
[10:02] <rosemary> samoura: no I bought one once of trademe and it didn't fit the slot :-)
[10:02] <samoura> heh
[10:14] <egonw_> I have trouble with the konsole history... it's set to Unlimited, but really uses 0 history :(
[10:15] <egonw_> after each boot, for each console, I have to fix the setting again... even though it still says Unlimited...
[10:15] <egonw_> anyone who has experienced this too?
[10:17] <divansantana> Hello, any one can help me
[10:17] <divansantana> problem is"ISpell/Aspell could not be started. Please make sure you have ISpell or Aspell properly configured and in your PATH." and aspell is installed
[10:20] <egonw_> divansantana: which program gives that error?
[10:20] <divansantana> kontact
[10:21] <divansantana> kmail
[10:21] <divansantana> spelling works perfect on my laptop but on another kubuntu 5.10 same version everything doesnt work. aspell/ispell Packages are the same
[10:23] <egonw_> so you're running aspell from the command line?
[10:23] <egonw_> sorry...
[10:23] <egonw_> mist the two lines before that...
[10:24] <egonw_> divansantana: try to run it from the command line on both machines...
[10:24] <divansantana> When composing mail it doesnt auto check spelling if click tools spelling it says
[10:24] <divansantana> problem is"ISpell/Aspell could not be started. Please make sure you have ISpell or Aspell properly configured and in your PATH." and aspell is installed
[10:24] <egonw_> and check that the result/output is the same...
[10:24] <divansantana> but aspell is install and is in /usr/bin and $PATH is correct
[10:24] <divansantana> how?
[10:24] <egonw_> start Konsole
[10:25] <egonw_> type aspell -c somefile.txt
[10:26] <divansantana> -c doesnt work on both computers
[10:27] <egonw_> doesn't?
[10:27] <divansantana> type aspell -c automatix.log
[10:27] <divansantana> aspell is /usr/bin/aspell
[10:27] <divansantana> bash: type: -c: not found
[10:27] <divansantana> bash: type: automatix.log: not found
[10:27] <egonw_> it does here... guess there is something wron there then...
[10:27] <egonw_> argh...
[10:27] <egonw_> remove the 'type'...
[10:28] <egonw_> the command is: aspell -c somefile.txt
[10:28] <_slash> hey guys
[10:28] <_slash> I'm just lost
[10:28] <_slash> can't view phpnuke index.php
[10:28] <_slash> I wonder why?
[10:28] <_slash> can somebody point me to any documentation?
[10:28] <divansantana> woops!!
[10:28] <divansantana> sorry it works on both of them
[10:29] <egonw_> _slash: http://google.com
[10:29] <_slash> too general
[10:29] <_slash> but its okay
[10:29] <egonw_> divansantana: don't have further ideas...
[10:29] <_slash> I've been ran phpnuke for many platform
[10:29] <_slash> but not on ubuntu
[10:30] <egonw_> tried man?
[10:30] <_slash> I tod it was the same installation
[10:30] <egonw_> try: dpkg -L phpnuke
[10:30] <egonw_> or whatever the package name is...
[10:30] <egonw_> try: dpkg -L phpnuke | grep doc
[10:31] <divansantana> egonw_: it seems like a common problem, searched and found many people complaining same thing with no answers... :(
[10:31] <divansantana> egonw_: thanks for your help though
[10:31] <_slash> man, been running lots of php package on multiple OS even sparc and alpha
[10:31] <egonw_> divansantana: try the channel #kde
[10:32] <divansantana> kewl wil do
[10:32] <_slash> I won't come here if I can find the answer on google, hehe
[10:32] <egonw_> _slash: sorry... can't help with that...
[10:41] <_mindspin> slash try  #apache
[10:48] <samoura> Click the Search button and search for "nvidia".
[10:48] <samoura> Once the search is complete, click the white box next to the following packages and select Mark for Installation in the menu that pops up:
[10:48] <samoura>  Everybody should install:
[10:48] <samoura>  nvidia-settings
[10:48] <samoura> hello i am trying to install nvidia driver and i don know what do there ->
[10:49] <samoura> shude i install all the things that are there?
[10:49] <visik7> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:49] <samoura> okei just apt-get?
[10:50] <samoura> what do you mean man?
[10:51] <samoura> there are no apt-get in there
[10:53] <samoura> Once the search is complete find linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-686 if you are running the 686 kernel  EM i runnig  kernel?
[10:53] <roconnor> :-/ Why, when booting, does my computer try to accesss the timeserver before setting up the network?
[10:54] <kosh> roconnor: your computer is posessed by evil spirits :)
[10:54] <samoura> GOOD one :P
[10:55] <roconnor> 'nother question, why does Konversation automatically start-up with the #kubuntu channel?
[10:57] <roconnor> tough question.
[10:57] <kosh> roconnor: that is probably the defalut config for the konversation settings in kubuntu
[10:57] <kosh> roconnor: it is trivial to change it though
[10:58] <kosh> roconnor: they probably just programed it for that so that if someone clicked on it they would end up somewhere they could get help
[10:58] <roconnor> kosh: yes, thank you.
[10:58] <kosh> samoura: can you run uname -a  from the commandline and paste the result?
[10:59] <_b> !gslice
[10:59] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _b
[10:59] <samoura> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:59] <samoura> Password:
[11:00] <samoura> Select the Applications menu at the top of the screen, then System Tools and then Terminal.
[11:00] <samoura> In the terminal window, type the following command to enable the driver:
[11:00] <samoura> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:00] <samoura> not found ;S
[11:00] <samoura> is says not found
[11:03] <samoura> Select the Applications menu at the top of the screen, then System Tools and then Terminal. In the terminal window, type the following command to enable the driver:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable    but it asks me of a password and i cant add the password so i just click ENTER and it says nvidia-glx-config: command not found please what em i dowing wrong ;S
[11:03] <kosh> I already asked you to type something for me and paste the output
[11:07] <samoura>  Select the Applications menu at the top of the screen, then System Tools  is this the right direct kmenu/system/terminal program knosole ?
[11:08] <samoura> and how do i exit synaptic manager?
[11:08] <kosh> could you just open a konsole window and type uname -a        and then paste the output into here?
[11:10] <samoura> Linux  2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:10] <samoura> kosh that comes up what than?
[11:11] <kosh> okay then do sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686 nvidia-glx
[11:12] <samoura> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:12] <samoura> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:12] <samoura> that comes up
[11:12] <kosh> if you have adept, synaptic etc open then close them
[11:13] <kameron> i want to drop a bunch of .vobs .bups, and .ifos into a single .iso file so i can play it like a dvd. can i use tar to do this? something else?
[11:14] <samoura> kosh opkei i have closed this synaptic and than i tape agein and this comes up
[11:14] <samoura>  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:14] <samoura> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[11:14] <samoura> samoura@senbeto:~$ E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:14] <samoura> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[11:16] <kosh> okay run sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:16] <kosh> because the system things you still have another program running that is trying to install packages
[11:19] <samoura> you mean open sinaptic package manager and install this -> sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:19] <kosh> no
[11:19] <kosh> I am trying to find out what package programs you have open
[11:19] <kosh> just put that into the konsole window
[11:20] <samoura> this sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
[11:20] <kosh> yes in the commandline and without the ?
[11:20] <samoura> bash: run: command not found
[11:21] <samoura> ;( i am in deep shitt right ? ;(
[11:22] <kosh> samoura: it probably just means that lsof is not installed
[11:23] <kosh> samoura: I was trying to find out what apps you have open that are trying to manage packages
[11:23] <samoura> okei :D thanks okei now just have to open system/package manager right?
[11:24] <kosh> no
[11:24] <samoura> ;(
[11:24] <kosh> I want all of the gui package managers closed
[11:24] <kosh> that is why those commands are not working, something is still trying to access what they are trying to use
[11:24] <samoura> i have a cd on my driver cd?
[11:25] <samoura> mybe that is why?
[11:25] <kosh> no
[11:25] <kosh> there is a program open that is trying to lock the db
[11:26] <bimberi> "run: command not found"  -  run?
[11:26] <samoura> yess because i have installed many thing on system/pack manger
[11:26] <kosh> what exactly did you type into the konsole window?
[11:26] <samoura> and i don know even what it do:S
[11:28] <kosh> god I hate trying to help people that will not follow instructions exactly
[11:28] <samoura> okei
[11:29] <samoura> i taped this sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and than it pups up a password:
[11:30] <kosh> samoura: go find someone local that can help you
[11:30] <samoura> i did ALL+ F2 and write sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and than comes up a black screen and says Password: but i can tape nothing
[11:30] <samoura> please help me
[11:31] <kosh> I have tried to help you, I give up
[11:31] <kosh> you won't listen
[11:31] <samoura> okei i will
[11:31] <kosh> no it is a huge waste of my time, I have other work I need to get done
[11:31] <samoura> okei just say what i have to do  please
[11:31] <kosh> you need to find someone in person that can help you
[11:31] <kosh> or go back to windows your choice
[11:33] <rosemary> samoura: maybe go to forums and get writen instructions which are easier to follow?
[11:33] <rosemary> I mean easier than being in chan and trying to dothings in console or whatever
[11:33] <samoura> okei what forums?
[11:34] <rosemary> kubunut forums - try google
[11:37] <rosemary> kubuntu forums
[11:37] <Slaphappy> can this app be integrated instead of kwifi... i have so hard problems get my wireless to work with kwifi but with wlassistant in just 2 seconds and its done
[11:38] <Slaphappy> here is the link: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[11:47] <rosemary> samoura: Have trying to get link for forums but my ISP is playing silly buuger
[11:50] <samoura> :P i have updated :P uhhh i love this linux
[11:51] <samoura> but i have one problame;/
[11:51] <brosioz> anyone known how could i change the icon of kmail on systray ? i want to put kcontact icon...
[11:52] <oddie> brosioz: right click on icone and select properties, click on icon and change
[11:53] <brosioz> also in systray ???
[11:56] <oddie> systray....hhmmmm
[11:56] <oddie> sorry
[12:36] <rosemary> for the person who wanted kubunut forum links - may be gone but here it is   http://kubuntuforums.net/
[12:58] <brosioz> exists a repository with amarok 1.4 ?
[12:59] <haziq> huhuh
[01:00] <Hobbsee> brosioz: see /topic
[01:01] <brosioz> i've read Amarok 1.4 beta 1
[01:01] <brosioz> but don't see where download it
[01:02] <Hobbsee> see kubuntu.org
[01:09] <frojnd> wallaha
[01:09] <frojnd> :)
[01:13] <mluna> hi
[01:13] <rosemary> hi mluna
[01:14] <mluna> hi rosemary
[01:14] <mluna> I am trying ubuntu dapper drake
[01:14] <mluna> 6.10
[01:15] <Hobbsee> mluna: oh fun
[01:15] <mluna> :)
[01:16] <rosemary> well I am very new to kubuntu
[01:17] <mluna> I installed it last evening
[01:17] <mluna> rosemary: it is not hard, do not worry
[01:17] <frojnd> hello today I have a new prob
[01:18] <mluna> if you have any question I bet there are lots of people here that will help you
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[01:18] <rosemary> guess I could play wit it now I have broadband- but hardly know kubunut yet - Mandriva user
[01:19] <frojnd> when I started kaffeine and choose a m00vei form a ntfs partition kaffeine says: u can choose only local files....
[01:19] <Hobbsee> rosemary: it's a wise idea to know how to fix various bugs before moving to a development release - particularly at the moment
[01:19] <Hobbsee> frojnd: yes, that's always been the case
[01:19] <xwolf-> i mounted /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows, but i can only access it as root, and can't change the owner permissions so that i can listen my mp3 files (located in hda1) here in linux.. what do i do?
[01:19] <frojnd> so, how can I watch a movie on a ntfs..
[01:20] <frojnd> I can listen to music.. for now
[01:20] <frojnd> from ntfs ..
[01:20] <rosemary> Hobbsee: I am very unlikey to actually d/l an unstable relaese - just pipe dream talk :-)
[01:20] <Hobbsee> xwolf-: modify /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0 <-- to suit your file system (where to mount it, etc), and change it in /etc/fstab, so that the user can read the files
[01:20] <mluna> I think users are the best testers
[01:21] <Hobbsee> rosemary: hehe
[01:21] <Hobbsee> mluna: that is tru
[01:21] <Hobbsee> e
[01:21] <rosemary> it's like I've got this box, low specs - no loss if things don't work.  Reality is I don't have the time
[01:21] <xwolf-> Hobbsee i just have to run that and magic will happen then..
[01:21] <frojnd> any ideas how can i force my ntfs partiton to use it and watch a movie from it?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> xwolf-: kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab - you'll already have a line to mount your windows partition - delete it and use this line instead, substituting where you mount it, and which hd it's on.  really, you can just copy the permissions over from nls=blahblahblah instead of the defaults given in /etc/fstab
[01:24] <Hobbsee> you'll still have to copy over your music to a linux drive, but your user can read the windows partition, but not write to it
[01:25] <xwolf-> Hobbsee i just want to get the mp3s listened through linux... i don't want to copy to linux partition
[01:25] <Hobbsee> as far as i know, your statements are contradictory - i've not found a way to listen straight from a linux partition
[01:25] <frojnd> xwolf- I have exctlly prob yesterdasy..
[01:26] <frojnd> what distro do u use?
[01:26] <frojnd> xwolf-
[01:26] <xwolf-> kubuntu
[01:26] <frojnd> aha
[01:26] <Hobbsee> yeah i'd thought i'd seen it before
[01:26] <frojnd> :)
[01:26] <frojnd> it was me..
[01:26] <xwolf-> so..?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> frojnd: did you find a solution, apart from copying the files over?
[01:26] <frojnd> I forgot the command...
[01:27] <frojnd> yes someone form this chan told me how t odo it
[01:27] <xwolf-> i still can't open /mnt/windows as user.. just as root
[01:27] <Hobbsee> frojnd: type history and have a look :P
[01:27] <frojnd> history with a slash: /  ?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> frojnd: no, in a console
[01:27] <frojnd> aha
[01:27] <frojnd> ofcourse :P
[01:28] <Hobbsee> console/konsole/virtual terminal/xterm window/etc
[01:28] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:28] <Hobbsee> any commands i give are to be in a console - most people work that way, because it's fairly easy to help via console rather than say "now look to the top corner of this window, and click on the second box on the right hand side..."
[01:29] <Hobbsee> as in, most people give help that way
[01:29] <xwolf-> it's actually better
[01:29] <ejofee> my vlc sub font is very uglily blurred. what can i do about it? i tried every combination of settings i could think of.
[01:30] <xwolf-> Hobbsee i still think i'm gonna have problems with playing mp3 files
[01:30] <rosemary> CLI help is so much easier once used to using console - get output so know what is happeneing
[01:30] <Hobbsee> rosemary: definetly!
[01:30] <frojnd> that's unbolivable... I must have delited it :\
[01:30] <xwolf-> lemme check the wiki
[01:30] <Hobbsee> frojnd: it doesnt tell you?
[01:30] <frojnd> I can't find any get-install or smth..
[01:30] <frojnd> no!
[01:31] <Hobbsee> frojnd: just pastebin your output of history, if it's got nothing sensitive in it
[01:31] <Hobbsee> we can probably figure it out from there
[01:31] <frojnd> that's so cruel
[01:31] <frojnd> I mean I also thought I'll learn from history
[01:32] <Hobbsee> oh, right :)
[01:32] <frojnd> couse now I have simmilar problem
[01:32] <frojnd> only that instead of .mp3 are .avi..
[01:32] <frojnd> no no..
[01:33] <frojnd> get-install was included :)
[01:33] <frojnd> and than update or smth
[01:33] <frojnd> I remember that
[01:34] <rosemary> Hobbsee: well worth learning some CLI for that purpose I think
[01:34] <Hobbsee> true :)
[01:34] <Hobbsee> and of course, it's rather useful when you lose all of X
[01:38] <rosemary> Hobbsee: sometimes when I have trie different distros has trouble with  X and had to configure with CLI.  But I always need a lot of help at that sort of stage
[01:38] <Hobbsee> hehe true - so you are good friends with irssi?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> of #kubuntu
[01:40] <rosemary> Hobbsee: me ? friend with irssi  no don't know the person
[01:40] <Hobbsee> !+info irssi
[01:40] <ubotu> Package 'irssi' does not exist.
[01:40] <Hobbsee> !+info irssi-text
[01:40] <ubotu> irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9+0.8.10rc5-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[01:40] <Hobbsee> rosemary: that one :P
[01:41] <xwolf-> so.. isn't there a way to actually listen the mp3 without having to bring it to my linux partition?
[01:41] <rosemary> Hobbsee: so irssi is some client?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> yes, an IRC client
[01:41] <rosemary> hehen
[01:43] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:45] <Mongey> eh.... im about to dual boot kubunty wit xp
[01:45] <Mongey> i was just wondering will i be able to view my Fat 32 HD?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> Mongey: yes you will
[01:46] <Hobbsee> !windows
[01:46] <ubotu> [windows]  unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[01:46] <Hobbsee> !windows partitions
[01:46] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:46] <Hobbsee> !mount
[01:46] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:46] <Hobbsee> that one
[01:46] <Mongey> or maybe i dont need to
[01:46] <Mongey> i have a usb modem
[01:47] <Mongey> nvm
[01:47] <Mongey> damn
[01:47] <Mongey> lol
[01:47] <Hobbsee> what?
[01:47] <Mongey> i have drivers for my modem on my C; drive
[01:47] <Mongey> (for linux)
[01:48] <Mongey> but i wont be able to install them unless there on my linux partion right?
[01:49] <Mongey> !windowsdrivers
[01:49] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mongey
[01:49] <Mongey> !windowsdrives
[01:49] <ubotu> well, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:50] <Hobbsee> Mongey: for your modem?  is it just a standard ethernet connection from your computer to your modem?
[01:50] <Mongey> Connection: Cayman 3000 series USB Network Adapter #5 - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 10.0 Mbps (Rec: 567.92MB Sent: 54.77MB)
[01:50] <Mongey> USB
[01:51] <Hobbsee> you should find that it doesnt need a driver - that the drivers it needs to connect are part of the kernel
[01:51] <Mongey> really?
[01:55] <Mongey> i thought i'd need drivers? no
[01:55] <snikker> hi how can make java-sun the default jvm instead of gcj?
[01:56] <Hobbsee> farous: hehe
[01:57] <Hobbsee> Mongey: you shouldnt - this isnt windows
[01:57] <Hobbsee> most of the drivers come with the kernel
[01:57] <Mongey> lol
[01:57] <farous> snikker: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:57] <farous> choose what you want
[01:57] <Hobbsee> only likely thing you'll sometimes need is wireless drivers (ndiswrapper), and maybe a graphics driver, depending on the card you have
[01:58] <Mongey> Video Card: nVidia GeForce4 MX 440
[01:58] <Mongey> no wireless
[01:58] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[01:58] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:59] <farous> Hobbsee: i admit it is a bit faster at login but on a test machine with fresh breezy install to upgrade to dapper i lost sound. and wireless. had some wierd effects too. I remember when breezy came out right before the release X did not work :)
[01:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:59] <Hobbsee> it should get less buggy over the next couple of weeks
[01:59] <snikker> farous: i've installed sun jvm manually and i've put it in the path, but the system always load gcj
[02:00] <farous> snikker: the right way to do it is the way i posted before
[02:00] <farous> the quick way is change the link to java and javaw in the /usr/bin dir to point to where you installed sun-java
[02:01] <snikker> farous: ok, but it is updated to the last version of jvm?
[02:02] <malte> does tome work for everyone here? could anyone try to install and run tome for me? :)
[02:02] <malte> for me there seems to be something wrong with xaw6, xawPrintShellWidgetClass isn't defined tome says
[02:03] <farous> good luck snikker just change the symbolic link to point to sun java take care
[02:03] <Mongey> hmmm what do i need to know for kubuntu
[02:03] <malte> anyone!? :(
[02:04] <Hobbsee> Mongey: you'll find a lot of interesting things on wiki.ubuntu.com and kubuntu.org
[02:05] <Mongey> sorry for askin stupid questions
[02:05] <Hobbsee> no problems - you'll leanr
[02:05] <Hobbsee> *learn
[02:10] <Mongey> whats the kernal?
[02:10] <Mongey> !kernal
[02:10] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mongey
[02:12] <xwolf-> Mongey  try kernel
[02:12] <Mongey> !kernel
[02:14] <xwolf-> !mp3
[02:14] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.13 Stopped
[02:14] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:14] <Mongey> !kernel
[02:15] <xwolf-> !apache
[02:15] <ubotu> methinks apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:17] <Mongey> ! kernel
[02:17] <ubotu> from memory, kernel is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[02:17] <samoura> hello i reinstalld kubuntu and i want to know what shude i install first from the package manger please help me ;(
[02:17] <xwolf-> samoura i installed xchat and xmms
[02:17] <xwolf-> and firefox
[02:18] <Ilokaasu> codecs etc
[02:18] <Ilokaasu> what u need in basic use
[02:18] <samoura> give me more :P
[02:18] <xwolf-> i believe necessity will show you what to install
[02:18] <Mongey> ehh..... the kernel thing is apart of kubuntu, right?
[02:19] <xwolf-> Mongey the kernel is the basis of the OS
[02:19] <Mongey> kk
[02:24] <samoura> i know i have to download somthing that have to go in kmenu/system  i dont remember the name
[02:25] <samoura> ptionc manager or some like that ;S
[02:29] <samoura> how do i update video card or install please help me does any body knows about a website that can help me
[02:30] <Hobbsee_zzzz> samoura: it might just help if you actually tell people what type your video card actually is
[02:30] <samoura> Ge forc fx nvidia
[02:37] <Ralph_> I am on dapper at the system works great!! (in case anybody cares to know)
[02:38] <samoura> hello i reinstalld kubuntu and i want to know what shude i install first from the package manger please help me ;(
[02:40] <xwolf-> Ralph_ lol
[02:41] <mluna> please someone hel samoura, i am as new as he is
[02:42] <samoura> relph i know i have to download somthing that have to go in kmenu/system  i dont remember the name
[02:43] <mluna> ok Ralph_ (sorry I cannot write privates - I am a public person- ) I forgot my password :_(
[02:44] <xwolf-> samoura know what i do? keep using till i notice something is missing
[02:44] <samoura> how do i update or install driver for Nvidia Ge force fx nvidia
[02:45] <samoura> is there a website?
[02:45] <samoura> that can help me ;(
[02:45] <xwolf-> that, i didnt do ;P
[02:53] <ita> hi all .. i have a question regarding my ati gfx board .. i installed all drivers .. all was fine .. fgl_glxgears made like 400 fps .. ita = happy ... i tried to add dual monitor support .. i made it but on the cost of 3d power .. no prob.. i had 2 xorg.conf's .. i could switch whenever i wanted to do fast gfx (seldom) or dual monitor (often) ..
[02:54] <ita> now: i switched back to "fast" xorg.conf .. kdm stop .. i changed xorg.conf (untouched file) .. and it still runs on mesa .. long story made short: i lost 3d accel in one-monitor use without alterting cfg files
[02:55] <xwolf-> i cant find 'akode-mpeg' and 'gstreamer0.8-mad' packages.. which ones should i install to manage playing mp3 files in amaroK?
[02:55] <Ralph_> I am using dapper and my ati was configured and installed out of the box.
[02:55] <ita> im pretty new to linux .. but as i said .. a week ago i could kdm stop, change cfg, kdm start .. voila .. no im lost with mesa and NO 3d whether one moni or dual moni
[02:55] <ita> xwolf-: i think you need both
[02:55] <ita> try adding universe to your repos
[02:55] <xwolf-> universe?
[02:56] <xwolf-> ur speaking to a noob... let's make things easier
[02:57] <ita> use your kde menu / system / adept
[02:57] <ita> in adept menu choose manage repos
[02:58] <xwolf-> i'm there
[02:58] <ita> scroll down and right click / enable the repos where there is "universe" with the components column
[02:59] <ita> do a apply and close and hit "fetch updates"
[02:59] <ita> close as in "close the manage repo screen" but stick with adept of course
[02:59] <xwolf-> there was an error bla bla updates
[03:00] <ita> error blabla updates is no error i understand sorry try a paste bin or paste detailed error message (im rather new to kubuntu myself im just telling what worked for me)
[03:01] <xwolf-> ok lemme see
[03:01] <samoura> hey hello how can i use window xp and linux? please help me
[03:01] <samoura> ;(
[03:01] <Mongey> dual boot?
[03:01] <samoura> yess
[03:01] <Mongey> well first download kubuntu
[03:01] <xwolf-> i ran 'apt-get update' and got: Bad formatting in line 37 in sources file... path/sources.list
[03:02] <xwolf-> i translated it from portuguese, but that's the idea
[03:02] <Mongey> partion you HD
[03:03] <ita> you should search kubuntu wiki / forums on "how to enable repos" its no big deal actually
[03:04] <xwolf-> i'm gonna comment line 37 and 38
[03:05] <samoura> i only have linux and how do i download window xp to have those 2 duel boot
[03:06] <ita> im out for today ciao
[03:11] <gaylord> !flash
[03:11] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:11] <gaylord> !FreeFormats
[03:11] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:12] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[03:12] <Paradosso> a little OT question
[03:12] <Paradosso> what's the lightest multiple-transfers bittorrent client out there?
[03:13] <Tm_T> bittorrent?
[03:14] <Paradosso> tup
[03:14] <Paradosso> yup
[03:14] <m_1una> obvious
[03:14] <Tm_T> yup, bittorrent is pretty light
[03:14] <samoura> is bittorrent faster than window xp?
[03:14] <Paradosso> I know Tm_T , but I'd like to have a client that lets me keep open multiple torrents seeding
[03:14] <Ilokaasu> xp aint bt client ?
[03:15] <Tm_T> Paradosso: afaik you can with bittorrent
[03:15] <Tm_T> Paradosso: also, try Ktorrent
[03:15] <Tm_T> Ilokaasu: how'd you know ;(
[03:15] <Ilokaasu> =/
[03:15] <Paradosso> I know I can, but I can't have them in a single window with e.g. command line
[03:15] <Paradosso> nor with bittornado
[03:16] <Tm_T> then Ktorrent ;)
[03:16] <Paradosso> and azureus is far too heavy for me
[03:16] <Paradosso> I'll try it
[03:16] <samoura>  tell me where can i find dopper
[03:16] <samoura> [14:13]  <samoura> just that ;( i forgott it
[03:16] <Tm_T> uh, more snow ->
[03:16] <nlindblad> good day
[03:16] <samoura> tell me where can i find dopper
[03:17] <Paradosso> dope?
[03:18] <grim76> samoura: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4?highlight=%28Dapper%29
[03:18] <samoura> yppi
[03:21] <Ralph_> Or here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[03:24] <gaylord> how can I install flashplayer for dapper flight 4 ?
[03:29] <gaylord> Ralph_: ok thx
[03:33] <frojnd> where can I find putty on my 5.10 kubuntu ?
[03:34] <frojnd> is it allready installed and if where
[03:34] <Ilokaasu> locate putty in console ?
[03:36] <frojnd> doesn't works
[03:37] <frojnd> *-s
[03:37] <frojnd> when i wrote locate putty nothing happens
[03:38] <nlindblad> isn't there a Xen package for Ubuntu?
[03:40] <Ilokaasu> frojnd: so u havent installed putty yet ?
[03:41] <frojnd> I don't know
[03:41] <frojnd> no I didn't
[03:41] <frojnd> how can I install it?
[03:41] <frojnd> with an adept ?
[03:43] <Ilokaasu> yes by adept or downloading ir from some website
[03:43] <Ilokaasu> but adept is easier
[03:43] <frojnd> I just click on install and that's it?
[03:44] <frojnd> now ehen I installedit
[03:44] <frojnd> where is putty? or where can I start it
[03:45] <frojnd> buah I don't really know how t oinstall it with adept
[03:45] <Ilokaasu> try writing putty in console
[03:46] <frojnd> bash: putty: command not found
[03:46] <Ilokaasu> go in adept
[03:46] <frojnd> ja..
[03:46] <Ilokaasu> then write it to the filter...then choose putty from the list and select install package
[03:47] <Ilokaasu> then press commint changes button
[03:47] <Ilokaasu> -n
[03:47] <frojnd> aha
[03:47] <Ilokaasu> then it should be installed
[03:48] <Ilokaasu> it might appear in some menu too
[03:48] <frojnd> tnx man
[03:48] <Mongey> when removing kubuntu....... can i just  boot to xp and format the partion?
[03:49] <Ilokaasu> Mongey: bootloader might break
[03:49] <Mongey> damn
[03:50] <Ilokaasu> then you just have to fix it with one command which i just now dont remember :P
[03:50] <Ilokaasu> fixmbr
[03:50] <Mongey> but where/how would in put fixmbr in?
[03:51] <Ilokaasu> if u have bootdisk u can write it there
[03:51] <Ilokaasu> im not so sure about the thing so someone more experienced should tell it to you
[03:51] <r2> hey guys i'm trying to mount a ntfs partition on kubunto, i suceeded with a fat32 one but the ntfs i'm haveing this: bash: cd: /media/hda1: Permission denied any ideas why?
[03:51] <Mongey> i dont have a boot disk :(
[03:51] <xandhy> Mongey: from windows command 'fdisk /mbr' should work
[03:52] <_mindspin> e careful
[03:52] <_mindspin> be careful
[03:53] <Mongey> ..?
[03:53] <Mongey> where would i put "fdisk /mbr"
[03:53] <xandhy> Mongey: run widnows, cmd & go
[03:54] <Ilokaasu> or if u have bootdisk..u can make one in windows too
[03:54] <Mongey> wait
[03:54] <Mongey> i go to command prompt?
[03:57] <Mongey> anyone?
[03:57] <Ilokaasu> well u can try to go in windows, then in command prompt and write "fdisk /mbr"
[03:59] <r2> can anyone help me witha  mount problem?
[04:00] <r2> Ralph_:  sorry mate i cant pm you cause i dont have registred nick
[04:01] <r2> Ralph_:  i'm trying to mount an ntfs partition, i mounted sucessfully a fat32 partition, and the ntfs partition seems to be mounted too but when i try to go inside the ntfs partition i get this: bash: cd: /media/hda1: Permission denied any ideas why?
[04:01] <_samoura> Hello what torrent clint is the best? tell me
[04:02] <Mongey> utorrent or azureses
[04:02] <_samoura> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/ 6 hr to download this fail OHHHH i hate it is there a faster lika torrent clint that can speed this shitt up
[04:05] <_sAmOurA> Hello people is there another way that i can install Nvidia driver than download a 6 HR dopper.iso ? PLease i need it       . my computer frizz ;(
[04:07] <_sAmOurA> i need utorrent ;S
[04:10] <_sAmOurA> Hello people is there another way that i can install Nvidia driver than download a 6 HR dopper.iso ? PLease i need it       . my computer frizz ;(
[04:11] <C-O-L-T> Anybody here?
[04:11] <Mongey> ye
[04:12] <kkathman> hi C-O-L-T
[04:12] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: hi I have not talk to you for long
[04:12] <C-O-L-T> Have you heard that Kubuntu will be fully supported and it will have shipit free cd's too?
[04:14] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: yes I have heard that, but believe thats a continuation of a practice from ubuntu also
[04:14] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I think it is really cool
[04:15] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: anyway I use GNOME :) but I like to hear when open source programs are getting better and better
[04:16] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: I hear that the new Gnome upgrades will be very nice when they arrive
[04:16] <_sAmOurA> home/samoura/dapper-install-amd64.iso.torrent 14 hr time remaining ;( please help me my nate is 8 MB and i get 14 kb speed and my  my Nvidia installd
[04:16] <_sAmOurA> home/samoura/dapper-install-amd64.iso.torrent 14 hr time remaining ;( please help me my nate is 8 MB and i get 14 kb speed and my  my Nvidia is not installd
[04:16] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: really I started with KDE but when I have seen Gnome it seemed that it is cleaner and easier. And anyway it knows a lot of things which kde don't.
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: another thing is that KDE is full with bugs
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I don't want to blame KDE here, I am just saying the contras
[04:17] <jpatrick> C-O-L-T: it's all about opinion
[04:18] <C-O-L-T> jpatrick: that is true
[04:18] <_sAmOurA> HOW DO I INSTALL THIS ***************** NVIDIA driver
[04:18] <C-O-L-T> jpatrick: in my opinion for beginners like me gnome is easier, it is much more windows native
[04:18] <jpatrick> i thought kde was more windows like
[04:18] <_sAmOurA> HOW DO I INSTALL THIS ***************** NVIDIA driver
[04:19] <jpatrick> _sAmOurA: stop that
[04:19] <C-O-L-T> jpatrick: in my opinion not, I switched to linux three months ago after using windows for 10 years. I liked kde but gnome is easier
[04:19] <_sAmOurA> okei how do i install it
[04:19] <jpatrick> I don't know, sorry
[04:19] <jpatrick> !nvidia
[04:19] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:20] <kkathman> C-O-L-T:  well I had to completely reinstall due to a dapper disaster, and used Gnome 1 day, and it crashed 7 times :)
[04:20] <kkathman> so I think there are plenty of bugs to go around :)
[04:20] <Mongey> anyone know how to fix a broken windows bootloader
[04:20] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: Dapper is unstable
[04:20] <C-O-L-T> drapper
[04:21] <jpatrick> C-O-L-T: not for long
[04:21] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: i wasnt in Dapper  -  i reinstalled (see my statement) to Breezy
[04:21] <Mongey> anyone?
[04:22] <jpatrick> !windows
[04:22] <ubotu> it has been said that windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[04:22] <kkathman> I'm pretty sure that Breezy was a step down overall in quality, from the VERY successful Hoary release...so Im hoping that Dapper will be better, but Im not sure
[04:22] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I don't know for me it works quite good
[04:22] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: thats what *nix is about... choice
[04:23] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: i see
[04:25] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: dapper will be far more better than breezy?
[04:26] <joaquinz> hi
[04:27] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: I dont know at all about that.  Its very unstable right now .. you cant dist-upgrade to it, and its quite unpredictable atm
[04:27] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: but you have tried the flight version
[04:27] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: what are your first impressions
[04:27] <joaquinz> does anybody know wich filesystem can be read-written by both linux and windows, omitting fat32?
[04:27] <kkathman> some people, that have kept up for a while..seem to have a working system, but those installing right now after Flight 4 have had alot of probs, even with the live CD
[04:28] <kkathman> C-O-L-T:  I tried to dist-upgrade and it destroyed my whole system.  I was fortunate to have SUSE as my backup on another partition
[04:28] <joaquinz> because fat32 has the 32gb limit and i want to create a data partition writable by both os's but it's larger than 32gb
[04:29] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I don't see the big differences truly between ubuntu distributions. I can not see so big differences like between windows vista and xp
[04:29] <kkathman> joaquinz:  I believe you can by using logical partitions
[04:30] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: for the average user many of the changes are not evident.
[04:30] <kkathman> kubuntu, for instance, is very much a hybrid release and so you'd see more change there
[04:30] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: but why gnome or kde cannot make better GUI's like mac os and vista with beautiful visual effects and so on
[04:31] <kkathman> kubuntu isnt standard KDE, so thats why you see alot of obvious bugs
[04:33] <m_1una> re
[04:34] <m_1una> MaterMaravillae: qu nick ms gracioso!
[04:34] <jpatrick> jaja
[04:34] <jpatrick> :P
[04:35] <Mongey> anyone know how to fix a broken windows bootloader
[04:36] <joaquinz> is it true that the new Xorg came with a new ati driver? how does it work?
[04:36] <beast> Mongey: fdisk /mbr
[04:42] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I am here I just had some work to do
[04:43] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: anyway there are other GUI's exept Gnome and KDE
[04:43] <C-O-L-T> ?
[04:45] <thehil> Does anyone have  a thinkpad  and a kernel with suspend2?
[04:45] <MaterMaravillae> gracias m_1una
[04:54] <jpatrick> !firefox1.5
[04:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:54] <_sAmOurA> In the terminal window, type the following command to enable the driver: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  : after i write sudo nvidia-gxl-config enable in the black screen or the terminal  comes up pasword: but i cant write in it so i push the Enter keybord and than it says Sorry, try again.;( help me
[04:57] <m_1una> you must have a password as root
[04:57] <m_1una> otherwhise it wont let you
[04:57] <jpatrick> just use sudo
[04:57] <_sAmOurA> yess it wont let me write
[04:57] <_sAmOurA> yess it wont let me write the password
[04:59] <jpatrick> odd
[04:59] <_sAmOurA> how can i install driver if the terminal don let me write the password help me please
[05:00] <m_1una> do it blindly
[05:00] <_sAmOurA> blindly?
[05:01] <_sAmOurA> do it blindly how?
[05:26] <marcuz> hoe can i see al chanels in freenode?
[05:27] <marcuz> how
[05:27] <marcuz> plese...
[05:28] <xwolf-> marcuz type /list and come back next year
[05:28] <marcuz> yes but there are many command
[05:29] <marcuz> i would join on ldap channel if there is
[05:29] <marcuz> how can i do?
[05:30] <JohnFlux> marcuz: you guess.
[05:30] <marcuz> ?lol
[05:36] <bushito> !ati
[05:36] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:49] <lwizardl> what do i have to do to get usb hard drives to auto mount
[05:50] <Ralph_> They do.
[05:51] <lwizardl> mines not
[05:51] <Ralph_> Without any problem (at least on my system which was not modified post install).
[05:51] <JohnFlux> mine automount as wel, fwiw
[05:52] <JohnFlux> lwizardl: go to  media:/
[05:52] <lwizardl> all i have there is cdrom (hdc) hard drive (hda1)
[05:55] <JohnFlux> lwizardl: try plugging the usb hard disk into a different usb port
[05:56] <JohnFlux> sometimes they aren't connected :)
[05:56] <JohnFlux> also check if you need to turn it on] 
[05:56] <lwizardl> did that i have 4 ports all worked on windows
[05:56] <JohnFlux> okay :)
[06:00] <jarlath> When I try to play any game fullscreen, the picture ends up looking 'dismembered' (sorry, only way I can describe :). I had this problem years ago with redhat but I cant remember how I fixed it. Any ideas folks?
[06:02] <jarlath> Actually, its coming back to me. I think the resolution used at fullscreen (eg 640x480) needs to be specified as supported in some config file.
[06:02] <jpatrick> marcez: it's not a good idea to surf as root
[06:10] <motyR> Hi, how do i set the cube effect on compiz?
[06:30] <Kel> hi all!
[06:30] <jpatrick> hi Kel
[06:32] <Kel> someone tell me... what is KubuntuMeeting?..
[06:32] <jarlath> What command do I issue from the terminal to launch the kde login or desktop?
[06:32] <jpatrick> Kel: it's when we discuss things on an agenda
[06:34] <Kel> jarlath: startkde
[06:34] <Ralph_> jarlath: startx should work.
[06:35] <Ralph_> jarlath: gdm might be another alternative
[06:36] <jarlath> Thanks Kel / Ralph.
[06:36] <Kel> Ralph_:i thought that gdm is GNOME utility... or i'm not right?..
[06:37] <Ralph_> Kel: Ups, sorry, yeah your are right. ;-)
[06:39] <Kel41> Ralph_: so what about gdm?..
[06:43] <_JakubS> or kdm
[06:43] <Definity> hi
[06:43] <Definity> i need some help
[06:44] <Kel41> hi Definity
[06:44] <Dasnipa`> anyone have a suggestion for a KDE RSS agreggator? akregator uses way too much ram for my taste
[06:44] <Definity> hey, im on kubuntu and it wont let me take out the wep key in network settings
[06:45] <Definity> any ideas
[06:45] <Definity> i can ake it out but when i return back into network settings it has poped up agian
[06:45] <Definity> even though i took it out
[06:46] <Kel41> Dasnipa`: type `aptitude` in the terminal, then press `\` and type rss....
[06:47] <Dasnipa`> Kel41, i know how to use the repository... theres only 1 KDE agreggator im looking for something outside of the repository
[06:47] <Kel41> Dasnipa`: oh, and to proceed to next entry in packege db press `/`(Breezy) or `n`(Dapper)
[06:47] <Ralph_> Definity: I don't where you are trying to change the settings, but please try this:
[06:48] <Ralph_> Definity: go to console and type iwconfig
[06:48] <Definity> i have
[06:48] <Definity> i got evrey thing up
[06:48] <Kel41> Dasnipa`:well, you can use some of gtk-based feeders... would you wait a minute,and i'll tell ou some alternatives...
[06:48] <Ralph_> This should list the adapters you are using and should indicate the settings it is currently using.
[06:48] <Definity> what dose 11 missed becons mean?
[06:49] <Definity> oh i worked it out
[06:49] <Ralph_> Definity: great :-)
[06:49] <Definity> but i dont get why they key keeps returning after i click ok
[06:50] <Ralph_> Definity: It might be because you are trying to change it without root permission.
[06:50] <Definity> but it asks me for admin password to get onto network settings
[06:50] <Ralph_> Definity: you should try doing it with sudo and it will work.
[06:50] <Kel41> Dasnipa`: try installing opera... it has internal rss-feeder...
[06:51] <Kel41> Dasnipa`:so firefox do...
[06:51] <Ralph_> Kel41: Yes, I agree, firefox is really cool. :-)
[06:52] <Ralph_> Definity: so, is everything working?
[06:52] <Kel41> Ralph_: i've read securityfocus... too many bugs in firefox...
[06:53] <Definity> i wored out how to do it i went into the /ect/network/interfaces
[06:53] <Kel41> i'm using opera right now for the rss, news and mail... and surfing of cource :)
[06:53] <Definity> but how would i get permissions to this file is it chmod -rwo
[06:53] <Ralph_> Kel41: and which is the best browser?
[06:54] <jpatrick> Konqueror
[06:54] <Ralph_> Definity: just use sudo to edit the file.
[06:54] <Definity> how would i go about doing that?
[06:54] <Ralph_> Definity: i.e. sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[06:55] <Ralph_> Definity: But please be careful.
[06:55] <Kel41> Ralph_: well, tastes differ, for me opera works good...
[06:55] <Ralph_> You might want to create a backup first by typing
[06:56] <Ralph_> Definity: sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.old
[06:56] <Definity> ok
[06:56] <Definity> how do i save on nano?
[06:57] <Ralph_> Definity: press ctrl+x
[06:57] <Ralph_> Definity: confirm with y for yes and hit enter to confirm that the file name to be written should be the old one.
[06:58] <Ralph_> Definity: you might want to restart your networking interfaces to see if the new settings are working byt typing:
[06:58] <Ralph_> Definity: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:00] <Definity> it says there no such directory?
[07:01] <Ralph_> Definity: you can also do it manually by deactivating and re-enabling the device by typing
[07:02] <Ralph_> Definity: sudo ifconfig eth(x) down/up
[07:02] <Ralph_> where (x) represents your wireless interface
[07:02] <Definity> so eth0
[07:02] <Ralph_> yes.
[07:02] <Ralph_> First to a down
[07:02] <Nomad411> Hi all.. Is there a GUI t manage users for PureFTP
[07:02] <Ralph_> then do the up command (two commands)
[07:03] <Definity> nope
[07:03] <Definity> google still dosent want to show up on my lappy top
[07:04] <Definity> hmmm
[07:04] <Definity> mabey it is the wireless but what
[07:05] <Ralph_> Definity: ok let's take it step by step.
[07:05] <Ralph_> Definity:  iwconfig gives you what?
[07:06] <Definity> normal stuff what it always says
[07:06] <dOb> when I start pppoeconf using the run-dialog without using the "run in terminal window"-option, new pppoeconf processes keep constantly appearing (no visible windows though) and finally they jam the system. why is this?
[07:06] <Definity> its connected to my wireless point on 802.11g
[07:07] <Definity> thats about it
[07:07] <Definity> its missed 18 becons
[07:08] <Definity> andn1 invalid misc
[07:08] <Ralph_> Definity: would you mind posting the output somewhere like this: http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=1c8
[07:10] <jpatrick> that's nice
[07:11] <Ralph_> Definity: I just remembered, you don't have internet access so it is probably difficult.
[07:12] <Ralph_> Definity: well, have a look at the posting up there and tell me if it is similar to yours.
[07:12] <Definity> http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=1c9
[07:12] <Definity> yeh
[07:12] <Definity> pretty much
[07:13] <Ralph_> Definity: great, you got a connection to the ap.
[07:13] <Definity> yeh
[07:13] <Definity> just no internet
[07:13] <Ralph_> Definity: do you get to ping?
[07:13] <Ralph_> Definity: try ping www.yahoo.com
[07:13] <Definity> hmm let me find out
[07:15] <Ralph_> Definity: also, you might want to type 'route' and tell me if there is a default gw configured.
[07:15] <Definity> yep i can ping yahoo
[07:15] <Ralph_> Definity: Great, so your internet connection is working.
[07:15] <Ralph_> Definity: so, what is the problem?
[07:15] <Definity> its working now???????????
[07:16] <Definity> well 802.11 is just random
[07:16] <Ralph_> Definity: well, you just told me it is wokring (you got a ping from yahoo, no?).
[07:16] <Definity> anyway thanks for the help ralph much apresiated
[07:16] <Definity> yeh its working now
[07:16] <Definity> before i couldnt get on to google
[07:16] <Definity> now i can
[07:16] <Ralph_> Definity: 802.11 is nothing but the protocoll
[07:17] <Ralph_> Definity: np, this is the first time I actually got to help somebody. :-))
[07:17] <Definity> i thought it was the wireless specifications
[07:18] <Ralph_> Definity: I think the up/down did the trick.
[07:18] <Definity> no
[07:19] <Definity> i dont think it did
[07:19] <Definity> anyway
[07:19] <Definity> my food is ready so i g2g thanks for the help agian ralph :)
[07:19] <Definity> see ya
[07:21] <Ralph_> anybody has a clue how to get the canon lide 60 work under kubuntu dapper?
[07:24] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone help me to install my digital camera?
[07:24] <tomcatt> hello all
[07:26] <tomcatt> how do I go about installing my intellimouse.  it's the old school 5 button mouse.
[07:29] <swim> hey folks does anyone have k3b setup properly to have it burn with root privileges?
[07:32] <swim> nm looks like I got it by doing exactly what Id already done...
[07:42] <JohnFlux> swim: also in Tools->k3bsetup  or sometihng
[07:44] <DjDarkman> can someone please tell me how can i use a cardcam 1300 digital camera?
[07:48] <SuperNova> Hi!
[07:49] <SuperNova> i noticed that there is an ubuntu binary for wine on wines homepage... how do i do to install wine on kubuntu?'
[07:49] <trooper00> SuperNova: add the right source to your sources.list file (also listed on the wine homepage) ... apt-get install wine
[07:50] <SuperNova> trooper00 im really new on this.. found this on wine homepage
[07:50] <SuperNova> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[07:51] <SuperNova> whats the difference between kde and gnome? is it just looks? mean will ubuntuaps work in kubuntu and so on?
[07:51] <trooper00> SuperNova: yeah. i followed those instructions the other day. i used adept instead of synaptic
[07:51] <jpatrick> yes
[07:52] <SuperNova> okey.. i though that would only work for ubuntu gnome) not kubuntu
[07:52] <farous> SuperNova: you can install your fav appl from both sides of the isle and they will work :)
[07:52] <SuperNova> farous so i dont have to find an "kde-version" of wine for example?
[07:52] <trooper00> SuperNova: no. the example is just using gnome software. apt-get is really at work here
[07:52] <denesh> i need someone to explain to me why my kde fonts look bigger than the gnome ones
[07:53] <farous> SuperNova: as example firefox is gtk based <gnome appl> and is the default webbrowser even in kubuntu ;)
[07:53] <denesh> logging in under failsafe and then running startkde produces the right size fonts
[07:53] <denesh> but logging in directly to kde produces huge fonts
[07:54] <denesh> anyone know how to fix that ?
[07:54] <SuperNova> farous is it better to rune ubuntu then? seems like gnome is more often used by software?
[07:54] <farous> denesh: there was a pckage do not work perfectly though
[07:54] <farous> gtk-qt theme if i remember right
[07:55] <denesh> thats not the problem
[07:55] <farous> SuperNova: they are both equally good. and wine will work on both. I do not think there is one specific for gnome or kde
[07:55] <SuperNova> as i have been told the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is looks but im starting to think its more than that
[07:55] <trooper00> SuperNova: the bottom line is its the same linux system running underneith the window manager, and that is all gnome / kde are.. so no, its not better to run one over the other. that is something for you to try and decide :)
[07:56] <SuperNova> trooper00 okey... so its the same software? gnom doesnt have a wider selection of software (or the other way around)
[07:56] <denesh> farous: selecting failsafe from the kdm menu and then running startkde works fine
[07:56] <denesh> farous: selecting kde from the kdm menu brings up the huge fonts
[07:57] <denesh> farous: by the way... when the kdm login screen is up.. the fonts are at the right size
[07:57] <farous> denesh you can look at the kcontrol center and select the font you like or even change the theme
[07:57] <farous> SuperNova: as trooper00 said it is just the looks you can run applications no matter what you have kde or gnome. you can install them
[07:58] <Spudchat> hows the superkaramba support in 5.10?
[07:58] <Spudchat> am i in for any suprises
[07:58] <farous> SuperNova: if you want to experiment you can install both too gnome and kde
[07:58] <farous> try them both then remove the one you do not like
[07:59] <SuperNova> farous on totaly new to linux so its probably best to start with one of them :P
[07:59] <SuperNova> thank you!
[08:00] <farous> yw:)
[08:01] <denesh> farous: no luck buddy... font sizes are set at 10 under kcontrol
[08:01] <denesh> farous: but i get 2 distinct sizes... startkde produces the right one...
[08:01] <farous> is it just for gtk ppl
[08:01] <farous> appl
[08:01] <denesh> no
[08:02] <denesh> everything else too
[08:02] <denesh> including kde apps fonts
[08:02] <denesh> just a couple of sizes bigger
[08:02] <farous> what type of font you use and are you using dapper or breezy
[08:02] <denesh> dappper
[08:02] <denesh> and the default DejaVu
[08:02] <denesh> fonts
[08:02] <farous> hmm have no wxperience with dapper sorry
[08:03] <denesh> no probs
[08:03] <farous> change the font type and size
[08:03] <farous> if nothing change
[08:03] <farous> you need to reconfigure the font package
[08:03] <denesh> dpgk-reconfigure fontconfig ?
[08:03] <farous> check first if you can change the font sizy and type
[08:04] <denesh> yeah i can
[08:04] <denesh> same story though
[08:04] <farous> so do the font really change
[08:04] <farous> or just you get a message it did
[08:05] <DjDarkman> can someone help me access my digital camera?
[08:05] <denesh> hang on got to restart kde
[08:05] <farous> DjDarkman: i normally plugit and access it like a jump drive
[08:05] <farous> mounted as /dev/sda1
[08:06] <DjDarkman> hmmm i hope this will work
[08:06] <farous> depend on your config though just hook it up
[08:06] <farous> and it should be mounted automatically
[08:07] <DjDarkman> no it`s not mounted
[08:07] <trooper00> farous: same experience. i plugged a digital camera in the other day and it mounted like any other flash memory.. very surprising
[08:07] <DjDarkman> and i can`t access it
[08:07] <farous> look for it under /media
[08:08] <DjDarkman> nope it`s not there
[08:08] <DjDarkman> i have driver for it ,but it`s for wind0w$ :(((
[08:08] <farous> do you have any usb device attached to your pc now
[08:09] <DjDarkman> yes farous my dvd writer ,but it`s not turned on
[08:09] <farous> ok i think you can try this command then
[08:09] <farous> pmount /dev/sda1
[08:10] <farous> if it does not work just logout and in again
[08:11] <Nomad411> !proftpd
[08:11] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[08:11] <farous> this should mount it under /media but i am sure there is a program to mount cameras with kubuntu
[08:11] <farous> !digital camera
[08:11] <ubotu> farous: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <DjDarkman> djdarkman@Darknet:~$ pmount /dev/sda1
[08:11] <DjDarkman> Error: could not determine real path of the device: No such file or directory
[08:11] <farous> did you hook up the camera
[08:12] <DjDarkman> yes
[08:13] <DjDarkman> i have a cardcam 1300
[08:13] <farous> am looking for it on the wiki now
[08:14] <DjDarkman> 10x farous
[08:14] <farous> oh you are putting in your card not the cam plug yes
[08:14] <DjDarkman> no
[08:14] <DjDarkman> it`s type is cardcam 1300
[08:15] <DjDarkman> http://www.oregonscientific.com.au/press_detail.asp?p=9
[08:15] <farous> oh ok
[08:15] <farous> you can check it in this link
[08:15] <farous> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCameras?highlight=%28digital%29%7C%28cam%29
[08:15] <farous> though i could not find it
[08:17] <DjDarkman> i can`t find cardcam in that list :((
[08:18] <farous> me either best way check it on the forums
[08:19] <DjDarkman> i gues i should post in the forums
[08:20] <farous> good luck got to go need to start x :)
[08:23] <hardman> PsySine r du hr?
[08:23] <jpatrick> !fi
[08:23] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[08:25] <Nomad411> is anyone using proftpd?
[08:25] <Nomad411> I can log in as oen acount no problem, I created a second one and did all I remember doing for the first one, but I can never login
[08:26] <kosh> greetings multiple personality peoplies!
[08:27] <Nomad411> argh.. got it..  forgot a shell in the passwd file
[08:30] <denesh> farous: i fixed it
[08:30] <farous> denesh: great
[08:30] <farous> so what was the prob
[08:30] <denesh> in the folder /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[08:31] <denesh> there are scripts which look similar to init scripts
[08:31] <denesh> script 40 has a function that checks the dpi of Xserver
[08:31] <denesh> and rounds it up to 96 or 120
[08:31] <farous> wow that is a bitch to track
[08:31] <denesh> so no matter what dpi i specify at xorg.conf or kdmrc it was overiding it
[08:31] <farous> great you did it though
[08:31] <kkathman> anyone know off hand where you change the color of the text under desktop icons?
[08:33] <kkathman> nm
[08:34] <farous> denesh: i think you need to submit a bug report and als the howto to fix it
[08:34] <farous> or better word should
[08:35] <denesh> farous: the actuall file is /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore had to change line 76 from 96 to 75 to suit me
[08:35] <denesh> farous: how am i supposed to report the bug
[08:36] <farous> let me check
[08:37] <denesh> farous: the purpose of the script is to be able to let kde change dpi on the fly. kde wasnt able to do that kind of stuff earlier
[08:37] <farous> bugs are reported in http://launchpad.net/malone
[08:37] <Lure> denesh: _Sime is author of this script - just joined the channel
[08:38] <farous> you have the link now denesh
[08:38] <jpatrick> "farous: the actuall file is /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore had to change line 76 from 96 to 75 to suit me"
[08:38] <denesh> yeah
[08:39] <denesh> _Sime ?
[08:40] <farous> jpatrick: ?
[08:40] <allee> denesh: you do it wrong.
[08:40] <jpatrick> farous: just quoting what he said
[08:40] <farous> ok :)
[08:40] <allee> denesh: instead of changing dpi yo should have changed the fontsize
[08:40] <denesh> allee: whats wrong iwth that
[08:40] <jpatrick> allee: ha
[08:41] <_Sime>  There is currently an annoying bug in the script, but the idea is http://pastebin.com/567194
[08:41] <allee> denesh: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AchimBohnet
[08:41] <denesh> allee: i would endup having to change the fontsize to something like 8 to get it working good
[08:41] <farous> allee: and sometime you change the dpi to have an apparent bigger desktop.
[08:41] <allee> denesh: if 8 suits you yes.  (Then use always liked 8pt, you were just not aware of it ;)
[08:42] <nlindblad> since when is 8pt 'liked'?
[08:42] <nlindblad> :D
[08:42] <farous> the way the windows are drawn the spacing everything change if you modify the dpi not always true with the font size
[08:43] <Ralph_> Anybody has any idea why I am completly incapable of installing Java Runtime Environment for Firefox?
[08:43] <allee> farous: KDE icons don't care about dpi ;)   And no my font choice never hurts my eyes. No need to make it bigger
[08:43] <denesh> allee: i have had my display at 75 dpi almost forever, xorg never gets it right... i change it in kdm all the time
[08:43] <farous> Ralph_: which java you have running
[08:44] <allee> denesh: kdmrc is one possibility, but DisplaySize is even deeper in hierarchy. So it should be prefered
[08:44] <farous> Ralph_: will help to be more specific. dapper or breezy, java installed and firefox ver
[08:44] <_Sime> The idea about the DPI is to ensure that fonts are rendered in sizes that they are optimised/hinted for.
[08:44] <Ralph_> farous: http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=1ca
[08:44] <allee> dereks: DisplaySize x-in-mm y-in-mm is also easier to understand for newbies.  How knows what dpi is?
[08:45] <Ralph_> farous: it's dapper
[08:46] <allee> jpatrick: yeah.  You know the story already ;)
[08:46] <jpatrick> allee: nice page
[08:46] <denesh> allee: i guess people should be allowed to change dpi to whatever they wish... and the script should find the best
[08:47] <allee> denesh: no. currently only the dpi is faked that XFT uses for fonts
[08:47] <farous> Ralph_: there is j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[08:47] <thmas> guys
[08:47] <allee> denesh: when you change the DPI the Xserver knows about.  No WYSIWYG is possible
[08:47] <thmas> i have i real problem
[08:47] <farous> i agree with denesh on that
[08:47] <thmas> a*
[08:48] <thmas> this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120355
[08:48] <thmas> "Resolution: FIXED"
[08:48] <allee> denesh: My question is simple: Your font is too big/small.  then the answer is: change the fonts size
[08:48] <thmas> that's not right
[08:49] <allee> denesh: the hack to change dpi originaled in bitmap fonts available only in 75 and 100 dpi.  We life in the time of scalable fonts now
[08:49] <Ralph_> farous: where do i get it?
[08:50] <farous> Ralph_: search for it using adept
[08:50] <farous> or synaptic whichever you prefer
[08:50] <Ralph_> farous: do i have to uninstall the java jre first?
[08:51] <farous> Ralph_: the plugin is in the java lib
[08:51] <farous> give me a min will give you a link to know where to search for it
[08:52] <allee> jpatrick: I'm slowly preparing for member ship.  But I should move the dpi stuff to the top when I keep pointing people to it
[08:52] <farous> look ate the post by ilbahr http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=712284#post712284
[08:52] <jpatrick> allee: they'll accept you
[08:54] <allee> Well, when I look other kubutnu MOTU wikis, not sure.  But more important: I annoy tons off people with DPI discussions
[08:54] <jpatrick> allee: don't look at mine ;-)
[08:54] <jpatrick> allee: you've been around for ages
[08:55] <allee> I better apply now, as long as reactions are only 20:40]  <jpatrick> allee: ha   *he he he*
[08:55] <jpatrick> allee: iirc, you were the one that put me into the Kubuntu Team
[08:56] <allee> I'll ask on -devel if wiki is okay (but I will not do it so soon to a deadline
[08:56] <jpatrick> best ask Riddell - like he said
[08:57] <allee> jpatrick: that was my plan but not before 23rd
[08:57] <Ralph_> farous: Checked the website and did all that already, but still doesn't wokr.
[08:58] <farous> Ralph_: did you cpy the plugin to your .mozilla/plugins dir
[08:58] <jpatrick> meeting soon
[08:58] <Ralph_> farous: not copy but ln -s
[08:59] <farous> hmm should work though
[08:59] <Riddell> hmm?
[08:59] <farous> for it to work you need to restart all instances of firefox
[08:59] <farous> did you close all opened firefox and start it again
[09:01] <farous> Ralph_: got to go soon so did you restart firefox and check it again
[09:03] <Ralph_> farous: I did and it doesn't work.
[09:03] <Ralph_> farous: but i got the errors for you if you like:
[09:03] <farous> than in the terminal address type
[09:04] <farous> about:config
[09:04] <farous> and in the search bar type java
[09:04] <Ralph_> farous: http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=1cb
[09:04] <farous> see what firefox have for it
[09:04] <farous> sorry Ralph_ got to go now back to work here take care and good luck
[09:04] <trooper00> hrm. firefox seems to have a different idea about font sizes compared to these other gnome apps... changing gtk settings in the appearance settings does indeed change the font size, but the firefox font is always a tad larger than it should be :\ ie i can make it look reasonable in firefox by making the font in my other gtk apps unreasonable small
[09:05] <Ralph_> anybody else who might be able to help me with JRE under Firefox?
[09:07] <Ralph_> trooper00: you might want to change the font size by holding 'ctrl' while you scroll with the wheel on your mose.
[09:07] <Ralph_> trooper00: ups, mouse...
[09:07] <trooper00> Ralph_: wrong font settings.. the ones in the window are fine.. its the hardcoded ones in the menus, status bar, etc
[09:08] <trooper00> Ralph_: in fact websites look surprisingly good.. its the clunky font in the interface that is driving me mad
[09:08] <Ralph_> trooper00: did you check the about:config settings for the fonts.
[09:09] <kosh> god about:config is such a copout
[09:09] <kosh> instead of putting in a gui they hide the options in a crappy interface like that
[09:10] <trooper00> wow. didn't even know it existed... theres where all the options went
[09:10] <kosh> the gecko rendering engine is pretty good but god the mozilla/firefox developers sure have some fantastic screwups
[09:10] <kosh> for example the cache should be files copied to the filesystem and mmaped
[09:11] <Ralph_> kosh: GUI takes time. I am sure they will make all this editable via GUI some day. But in the meantime they enable it like this. BTW: same with linux. ;-))
[09:11] <kosh> none of this use up as much memory as the app can and only realease memory based on memory pressure it is an app not an os
[09:11] <alex_dz> I've a question to install ubuntu
[09:11] <kosh> firefox seems to run under that one app at a time assumption
[09:12] <kosh> Ralph_: for normal linux stuff a config file is the default way to edit things, a commented config file
[09:12] <kosh> Ralph_: for firefox the normal way to edit stuff is the gui, not a hidden extra gui that you have to know the name of in order to access since nothing int he program is going to tell you about it
[09:12] <trooper00> Ralph_: you have it backwards. the gui was there but it confused people.. options were removed to make things easier for the end user.. which pisses me off honestly :(
[09:13] <kosh> Ralph_: last time I configured apache, squid etc the config files where obvious and commented and there where no hidden options
[09:13] <alex_dz> are there possibility to make fstab-options durnig installation?
[09:14] <kosh> alex_dz: probably not feasibly, can you not do it after you boot up the first time?
[09:14] <Wolfdog> Ahoj. Komunikuje tu nekdo cesky?
[09:15] <kosh> anyone know what language that is/
[09:16] <kosh> other then one I don't speak? ;)
[09:16] <alex_dz> czech
[09:16] <thmas> how to get info about my linux version?
[09:16] <kosh> uname -a gives the kernel information
[09:16] <kosh> thmas: however what do you mean about your linux version, that is a pretty undefined question
[09:17] <thmas> distribution?
[09:17] <gleesond> I was trying to set up my screen saver but my monitor turns off after the screen saver has been on for a bit. how can I make it so my monitor takes longer to turn off?
[09:18] <alex_dz> thx kosh, that will be ok
[09:18] <alex_dz> I'll try it, otherwise I'll ask again
[09:23] <trooper00> heh. this is hopeless. can't figure out why the fonts in the firefox menus are always a full size larger than the size specified for gtk apps.. this about:config business is a joke.. all the options and no comments :\
[09:25] <thmas> who can help me with this fuckin bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120355
[09:27] <Ralph_> trooper00: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries
[09:27] <trooper00> Ralph_: thanks. that helps :)
[09:32] <thmas> kded: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client
[09:32] <thmas> kded: client.c:751: avahi_client_get_state: Zusicherung client nicht erfllt.
[09:32] <thmas> Last DCOP call before KDED crash was from application 'DCOPServer'
[09:32] <thmas> to object '', function 'applicationRemoved(QCString)'.
[09:32] <thmas> KCrash: Application 'kded' crashing...
[09:32] <thmas> whats up?
[09:34] <jerware> fellaz
[09:36] <plfiorini> hello
[09:37] <plfiorini> do you play mp3 with juk (on dapper)?
[09:37] <Ralph_> plfiorini: hello
[09:37] <Ralph_> plfiorini: I am using xmms (on dapper)
[09:40] <salvi> hallo, ist es mglich, die mittlere maustaste mit einer bestimmten funktion zu belegen?? mit dem k-men um genau zu sein...
[09:41] <jpatrick> !de
[09:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:42] <jerware> is there such thing as an apt-update command?
[09:42] <kkathman> yes
[09:42] <jerware> i dont have it after doing apt-setup   with the cd-rom
[09:42] <jerware> and im root
[09:42] <kkathman> oh not apt-update... apt-get update
[09:42] <jerware> ahh ok
[09:42] <kkathman> that refreshes your sources
[09:42] <jerware> thanx its working now
[09:43] <kkathman> np
[09:45] <jerware> i ran both apt-setup and apt-get update and i still get this error when opening Adept package manager  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/1efi5J66.html
[09:46] <thmas> apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:46] <jariep1_> hello
[09:47] <jerware> interesting
[09:48] <jariep1_> I am using sudo konqueror, to be able to access file manager to copy and past files as root, I get an error message when starting konqueror with sudo:
[09:48] <jariep1_> Error: "/tmp/kde-jariell" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[09:49] <jariep1_> on some files and folders I can't modify preferences as root
[09:49] <jpatrick> kdesu konqueror !!
[09:50] <jariep1_> oh, i forgot, thanks
[09:58] <TD-Linux> Hmm... my kubuntu install was working OK yesterday (except for X11) but now it hangs after '* Checking battery state... [ ok ] '. The kubuntu picture dissapears and I am stuck at a blinking cursor.
[09:59] <TD-Linux> I suppose I could do a reinstall... haven't done anything special yet
[10:00] <TD-Linux> a shutdown works fine... kindof
[10:01] <TD-Linux> I think I'm going to partition manually this time....
[10:02] <TD-Linux> why does kubuntu put swap on partition #5 and / on partition #1?
[10:03] <TD-Linux> would it work just as well to put / on #1, swap on #2 and my Windoze backup partition on #3
[10:03] <TD-Linux> ?
[10:09] <Blissex> TD-Linux: yes.
[10:09] <TD-Linux> ok, thank you
[10:09] <TD-Linux> installing now..
[10:09] <tdmg> Hey guys, my audio is running 1-3 seconds behind my video on EVERY video program I run, and for every type of file.  What's wrong, and how do I fix it?
[10:10] <noteventime> You are using KDE?
[10:10] <tdmg> yes
[10:10] <jpatrick> yes
[10:11] <noteventime> Which version?
[10:11] <tdmg> pretty new.......
[10:11] <tdmg> I just updated to breezy two weeks ago
[10:11] <tdmg> couldn't be that old
[10:11] <noteventime> Hehe I updated to Dapper :)
[10:12] <noteventime> Have you tried looking around in your sound settings?
[10:12] <tdmg> I tried, couldn't find anything
[10:12] <tdmg> and it varies from program to program anyway
[10:12] <noteventime> ok
[10:13] <_tomcatt> how do I go about installing my intellimouse.  it's the old school 5 button mouse.
[10:13] <noteventime> Have you tried running them through artS
[10:13] <tdmg> VLC is only .5 seconds, Noatun is 2 seconds, Flash programs are 1 second, etc.
[10:13] <noteventime> artsdsp yourapp
[10:13] <tdmg> noteventime, it was running fine the other day though :(
[10:13] <noteventime> ok :S
[10:13] <tdmg> I didn't touch anything
[10:13] <tdmg> it shouldn't be doing this :(
[10:13] <noteventime> Try running them through artsdsp
[10:14] <jerware> what is the command line editor, i have neither emacs or even gedit
[10:14] <noteventime> nano
[10:14] <tdmg> what is artsdsp?
[10:14] <jerware> oh ok
[10:14] <noteventime> it makes the software use arts
[10:14] <noteventime> which is KDEs soundsystem
[10:15] <noteventime> Or was anyway, I think theys changeing in KDE4
[10:15] <tdmg> I have the arts package already
[10:15] <noteventime> What do you mean my English looks bad? :)
[10:16] <noteventime> Yes but run VLC through arts by artsdsp vlc
[10:18] <tdmg> vlc is still not better with arts :(
[10:18] <noteventime> ok :/
[10:19] <noteventime> Try increasing your sound buffer in sound settings : /
[10:20] <noteventime> Does someone know why I cant play ogg theora files?
[10:21] <noteventime> In kaffeine
[10:25] <luite> has anyone here succesfully installed xgl/compiz on dapper? when I run compiz and kde-window-decorator, I do get the effects, but then the window manager is gone (no title bars etc anymore)
[10:26] <osh_> Quick question about aptitude. If I do an 'sudo aptitude purge gallery' it should remove the gallery-config files in /etc/gallery. Right?
[10:26] <noteventime> I have
[10:26] <luite> noteventime: what commands do you use to actually enable the effects?
[10:26] <noteventime> lutie: Add the docarations to the plugins list
[10:27] <noteventime> You add them after compiz
[10:27] <noteventime> like DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace gconf decorations
[10:27] <noteventime> I can sen you my script
[10:28] <luite> noteventime: ok, using a pastebin?
[10:28] <noteventime> sure
[10:28] <noteventime> How do i use pastebin?
[10:29] <noteventime> Or rather where :)
[10:29] <luite> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ this one ok? :)
[10:29] <noteventime> sure
[10:29] <ryanakca> !bugtracker
[10:29] <ubotu> bugs are reported in http://launchpad.net/malone
[10:30] <noteventime> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9137
[10:31] <luite> ok, thanks... ah, gnome?
[10:31] <noteventime> You have to use gnome to use compiz, to its full power anyway :)
[10:31] <noteventime> I've never goten compiz to work in KDE
[10:31] <luite> hm, I might switch to gnome, for a while ;)
[10:32] <noteventime> I only use gnome in my compiz/xgl sessions
[10:32] <noteventime> I'm not using them as main though
[10:32] <noteventime> My drive is buggy, I'm on a Laptop Intel i915 :)
[10:32] <noteventime> driver*
[10:33] <luite> nvidia seems to work fairly well
[10:33] <luite> but some things still seem slower than regular xorg
[10:33] <noteventime> Ok
[10:33] <noteventime> Things like qb desktop are rather sluggish
[10:34] <noteventime> They look like double buffering is missing :
[10:35] <osh_> Just so I don't make an ass out of myself. "purge" is supposed to remove _everything_ related to a package, shouldn't it.  I thought I'd report it as a bug if I'm right.
[10:36] <noteventime> I think it's supposed to :)
[10:36] <Perma> hey gang
[10:36] <thmas> is any body able to help me with this problem/bug:
[10:36] <thmas> kded: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client
[10:36] <thmas> kded: client.c:751: avahi_client_get_state: Zusicherung client nicht erfllt.
[10:36] <thmas> Last DCOP call before KDED crash was from application 'DCOPServer'
[10:36] <thmas> to object '', function 'applicationRemoved(QCString)'.
[10:36] <thmas> KCrash: Application 'kded' crashing...
[10:36] <thmas> kded: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client
[10:36] <thmas> kded: client.c:751: avahi_client_get_state: Zusicherung client nicht erfllt.
[10:36] <thmas> Last DCOP call before KDED crash was from application 'DCOPServer'
[10:36] <thmas> to object '', function 'applicationRemoved(QCString)'.
[10:36] <thmas> KCrash: Application 'kded' crashing...
[10:36] <noteventime> Use pastebin please
[10:37] <osh_> !pastebin
[10:37] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:38] <Perma> hey guys- i need a little help with my wifi card. I've done ndiswrapper before, and did it fine, but kinfocentre says my nic is an unknown device. Any ideas? can pm me if you wish
[10:38] <Perma> :)
[10:39] <noteventime> Hmmm..... I love wifi in Linux esp if you intend to use WPA
[10:39] <Perma> of course not
[10:39] <Perma> lol
[10:39] <Perma> WEP for the win
[10:39] <osh_> Hmm, perhaps aptitude shouldn't remove edited config files? Apparently I've touched the files that doesn't get removed.
[10:40] <Perma> But should go WPA eh?
[10:40] <Perma> well, to be sorted after it recognizes my nic ;)
[10:41] <Lure> allee: do you have fixed version of guidance for DPI
[10:41] <noteventime> Perma: Have you tried using the command line?
[10:42] <Perma> done a little bit in termal, yes noteventime
[10:42] <Perma> well, i did
[10:42] <Perma> iwconfig etc
[10:42] <Perma> not listed there
[10:42] <noteventime> Perma: Ok, :/
[10:42] <noteventime> Are you going to use wpa?
[10:42] <noteventime> Maybe using the wpasupplicant thingy will work :)
[10:42] <Perma> yeah, might as well
[10:42] <Perma> I'm usually on an unencypted network though
[10:42] <noteventime> ok
[10:43] <noteventime> What is the name of the NIC?
[10:43] <noteventime> eth1?
[10:44] <Perma> my wifi nick isn't listed as being there, but in kinfocentre it's under pci as an "unknown device"
[10:44] <Perma> **wifi nic
[10:45] <noteventime> ok
[10:45] <noteventime> :S
[10:45] <Perma> maybe my ndiswrapper driver isn't correct?
[10:46] <noteventime> What the NIC supposed to be, "real name"?
[10:47] <Perma> real name? like wlan0?
[10:47] <Perma> is a broadcom corp pos
[10:47] <luite> noteventime: just installed gnome and started it using your script... wobbly windows..drool ;P
[10:47] <noteventime> ok
[10:47] <noteventime> hehe
[10:47] <noteventime> luite: Everything works as supposed?
[10:48] <noteventime> Perma: Have you googled for it?
[10:48] <Perma> yeah, i have
[10:48] <luite> noteventime: seems to work yes, but animations are a bit jerky sometimes
[10:48] <Perma> can't seem to find anything, i came here
[10:48] <noteventime> Found nothing?
[10:48] <noteventime> ok
[10:48] <noteventime> :( I wish I where better at these cind of things :P
[10:49] <Perma> me too :(
[10:52] <Alexi5> hello
[10:53] <Perma> hi
[11:09] <Alexi5> why is the kubuntu channel so dead
[11:11] <noteventime> Because the ubuntu channel is so alive :)
[11:17] <Hobbsee_away> Alexi5: a lot of people are idle, but around if anyone asks a question
[11:39] <Mongey> ok i need a small bit of help
[11:40] <Mongey> it involves fixing the wondow bootloader
[11:40] <Mongey> after i remove grub
[11:40] <Mongey> *windows
[11:42] <ricky_ds> Hi all
[11:42] <ricky_ds> Is there a known issue with samba on kubuntu 5.10?
[11:43] <ricky_ds> I'm not able to share my folders with a windows computer. Even if I go to remote places on my kubuntu, it only shows the windows shared folders, but not mine.
[11:44] <ricky_ds> Note that I did install the samba package and I also restarted samba after making changes. As for the shares, I did it in the filemanager by right-clicking on a folder and saying "share"
[11:46] <Alexi5> i have ubuntu installed and i have kubuntu cd. I want to install the kde kdesktop on ubuntu while keeping ubuntu GDM (Gnome desktop manager). i would like to know if i can ad kde by using the kubuntu disk instead of redownloading the kubuntu desktop from apt get
[11:50] <DreamWalker> hello
[11:50] <DreamWalker> need some urgent help
[11:50] <DreamWalker> a friend has a problem with a DVD-RW drive
[11:51] <DreamWalker> so i lend him a kubuntu live cd
[11:51] <DreamWalker> but he ssems to have a problem loading the session, and goes to the login screen
[11:52] <DreamWalker> my question is what are the username/password in the live cd
[11:52] <Ilokaasu> mine didnt boot in loginscreen
[11:52] <DreamWalker> tried to do a search in google, but came up empty
[11:52] <Ilokaasu> try ubuntu and ubuntu
[11:52] <DreamWalker> ya, neither does wth me, when i tried
[11:53] <DreamWalker> but he seems to be having  a problem with the process
[11:53] <DreamWalker> fails loading the session and goes to the login
[11:53] <bimberi> Alexi5: You could try this.  Edit sources.list to disable internet repositories, use 'apt-cdrom add' to add the cd, update and then install kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <bimberi> Alexi5: hopefully you won't have dependency issues, where you have a later version of something currently installed
[11:54] <DreamWalker> also the kubuntu site doesnt seem to have anything on the live cd
[11:55] <bimberi> DreamWalker: ubuntu & <blank> ?
[11:56] <DreamWalker> hum, lest try
[12:02] <Mrono> hey
[12:02] <Mrono> I need to update my firefox
[12:02] <Mrono> latest in the repository is 1.0.7
[12:03] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[12:04] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:05] <Mrono> thanks