[12:57] <ivoks> fabbione: libapr0-dev in ubuntu doesn't contain all .h needed for ganglia :/
[12:57] <fabbione> ivoks: i find it weird...
[12:57] <ivoks> me too
[12:57] <ivoks> but, get the source of libapr
[12:57] <fabbione> i believe you
[12:57] <fabbione> they might have added stuff to them
[12:58] <ivoks> apr_arch_networkio.h is the problem
[12:59] <fabbione> it's probably a non standard extension
[12:59] <fabbione> i have no idea
[01:01] <ivoks> sorry for bad packages other day :/
[01:02] <fabbione> dude.. no need to be sorry
[01:02] <fabbione> you have done a lot
[01:02] <fabbione> i am sorry that i don't have the time to help with that
[01:03] <ivoks> there it is:
[01:03] <ivoks> /httpd-2.0.55/srclib/apr/include/arch/unix/apr_arch_networkio.h
[01:03] <ivoks> but it's not part of the libapr0-dev
[01:03] <fabbione> that's because guess..
[01:03] <fabbione> our libarp is from 2.0.54 or something
[01:04] <fabbione> infinity: ?
[01:04] <fabbione> ^^^
[01:04] <ivoks> 2.0.55
[01:04] <ivoks> but this is the source of our libapr0
[01:04] <fabbione> our libapr
[01:04] <fabbione> uh eh?
[01:04] <fabbione> do you mean we are just not shipping a file?
[01:04] <ivoks> yes
[01:05] <fabbione> CRAPTASTIC
[01:05] <ivoks> :)
[01:05] <fabbione> ok we can get that fixed easily
[01:05] <ivoks> if we fix that, i can finish ganglia
[01:05] <fabbione> i think so.. i would like to ask thom and infinity
[01:05] <ivoks> sure
[01:07] <fabbione> it comes directly from apache2 package..
[01:07] <fabbione> that infinity is hammering
[01:07] <fabbione> can you open a bug for it?
[01:07] <ivoks> sure
[01:07] <fabbione> source apache2.2 binary libapr0-dev ?
[01:07] <fabbione> ehm
[01:07] <fabbione> apache2
[01:07] <ivoks> apache2
[01:07] <fabbione> right :)
[01:08] <ivoks> as soon as lp becomes usable :)
[01:08] <fabbione> mail infinity ...
[01:08] <fabbione> :)
[01:08] <ivoks> is it ok to make it a major?
[01:10] <fabbione> the severity of the bug increase in proportion to how much you like to hear the developer assigned to fix it straight into your hears, or how much you like to be publically larted if the bug is *cough*wrong*cough
[01:10] <fabbione> keep it normal...
[01:10] <fabbione> nobody ever noticed up till now
[01:10] <fabbione> s/hears/ears
[01:11] <fabbione> for about.. hmmm few years
[01:11] <fabbione> so it's not that relevant other than for ganglia
[01:11] <fabbione> that's not even updated in Debian
[01:11] <ivoks> or isn't a bug :)
[01:12] <fabbione> exactly :)
[01:57] <setuid> Looks like the ubuntu-server ISO from 2 days ago is... incomplete
[01:59] <setuid> The libc6_2.3.bleh package has a postinst that is broken, asks for the name of a City, and refuses every one, then says to press [Enter]  to see a list. Pressing [Enter]  does nothing at all.
[02:03] <fabbione> setuid: please file a bug on glibc
[02:04] <fabbione> that's not server specific
[02:08] <infinity> ivoks: Have you filed a bug about that missing header?
[02:09] <infinity> ivoks: Ahh, yeah.  I see it in my INBOX.
[02:12] <infinity> ivoks: Do you have the source package that requires that header?  It's a private header, afaict at a quick glance.
[02:19] <ivoks> i'm here :)
[02:19] <ivoks> infinity: i'm trying to build ganglia with apr from distribution
[02:19] <ivoks> not the one included in ganglia package
[02:20] <ivoks> ganglia brings whole libapr source cause that header is missing
[02:21] <infinity> Argh.  They shouldn't be using private symbols.
[02:22] <ivoks> :)
[02:28] <setuid> I'll just boot up another system and rsync it over... silly thing
[02:29] <infinity> Okay...
[02:30] <infinity> ivoks: Read lib/apr_net.c
[02:31] <infinity> ivoks: You see where they decided to rewrite apr_sockaddr_ip_get?  That's why they needed apr_inet_ntop, which is a private APR symbol.
[02:32] <infinity> ivoks: Either bring that bit of code (apr_inet_ntop) back into lib/apr_net.c (and stop including the private header), or bring the prototype declaration into lib/apr_net.h (not recommended, since it could change, in theory, but it probably won't), or stop using the mangled apr_sockaddr_ip_get, and use the real one from APR.
[02:33] <ivoks> ok, thanks
[02:33] <infinity> While it's not the "right" thing to do, popping "const char *apr_inet_ntop(int af, const void *src, char *dst, apr_size_t size);
[02:34] <infinity> " into lib/apr_net.h (and removing the include for the private header) may be the quickest way to get it to build and test it.
[02:34] <ivoks> i have to do it right way, not quickest way :)
[02:35] <ivoks> thanks for suggestion
[02:35] <infinity> Well, I'd try that first, just to see if it appears to DTRT.
[02:36] <infinity> Ugh.  Redefining apr_inet_ntop from the ground up will result in using a mess of other private symbols anyway, until you've duplicated a bunch of APR code.
[02:36] <infinity> GO GANGLIA, GO.
[02:36] <ivoks> :)
[02:37] <infinity> ivoks: Try my suggestion.  If it works, I'll turn a blind eye.  And it's only a 2-line change. :)
[02:37] <infinity> I'd appreciate it if you yelled at upstream for using private symbols, though.
[02:40] <infinity> ivoks: Tell them to write a macro or wrapper around apr_sockaddr_ip_get() instead, if they really want to change how they call it.  Rewriting it and hooking into APR internals (thus requiring them to ship their own copy of APR) is just plain silly.
[02:42] <ivoks> ok, i'll contact them
[02:42] <ivoks> i'll dig more into it later
[02:43] <ivoks> since i have some things to do now...
[02:43] <ivoks> anyway, thank you very much!
[02:59] <segfault> morning!
[03:00] <segfault> just got samba+ldap+heimdal working together here. including smbk5pwd, the overlay which updates automatically the ldap password entries for smb,unix and krb.
[03:00] <segfault> any chance to have the slapd-smbk5pwd package i made uploaded to universe?
[08:17] <Pygi> troy: ping ping
[08:25] <Pygi> mgalvin: ping
[08:28] <mgalvin> Pygi: pong?
[08:28] <Pygi> mgalvin: do you happen to have any record of official specs of ubuntu-server?
[08:29] <JulienH> Pygi: what do you mean by "happen" ?
[08:29] <Pygi> N
[08:29] <mgalvin> Pygi: you should be able to get them from the wiki, I may have a copy at home but i cannot get that that ATM
[08:29] <Pygi> mgalvin: you erased that from wiki...the spec on wiki is not the detailed specs....
[08:30] <Pygi> JulienH: ??
[08:30] <JulienH> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerCandy ?
[08:30] <Pygi> mgalvin: are you working on that anyway? the people on the list got interested in that project
[08:30] <mgalvin> I did NOT erase it, someone else did... i know that wiki page was moved, but you should still be able to recover it
[08:30] <Pygi> JulienH: no, instant-server
[08:31] <Pygi> mgalvin: no, the detailed specs was never on wiki I think...
[08:31] <JulienH> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInstantServerSpec ?
[08:31] <JulienH> Oh, the detailled spec...
[08:31] <Pygi> hehe :)
[08:31] <JulienH> AFAIK, it has been erased by Matt
[08:32] <mgalvin> i did not erase anything
[08:32] <mgalvin> it was as it was left
[08:32] <mgalvin> the wiki team does do cleanup from time to time, they may have moved it
[08:33] <Pygi> matt: have you done anything (a step forward or whateva) with your team ?
[08:33] <Pygi> what's the status of that project?
[08:33] <Pygi> you could follow -devel, you know :P
[08:35] <mgalvin> i have not had time, the project was left as it was months ago... I am working on some large projects and don't have time atm to work on the instant-server stuff
[08:35] <mgalvin> maybe in a few months but, no time very soon
[08:35] <Pygi> bah
[08:40] <rambo3> after installation of ubuntu-server is it posible to enable boot splash?
[08:42] <Pygi> just one thought...if you use the installation as a server, how often do you reset to server to see the splash?
[08:42] <Pygi> that being said, ubuntu-server probably doesn't ships with usplash package, but you can download it...
[08:42] <Pygi> also, are you talking about dapper server daily build, or a base install from breezy?
[08:43] <rambo3> breezy.
[08:43] <rambo3> usplash is not well documented
[08:44] <Pygi> well, that install any *if any* splash you wish
[08:44] <rambo3> i only found how to copy over plash images , not fresh install on ubuntu wiki
[08:53] <rambo3> ah , f* it i am going back to debian
[09:34] <JulienH> that's a good begin-end troll ^^
[09:36] <Pygi> JulienH: lol :)